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Saturday Night already?
I'll have an egg nog with brandy, thanks. No, no, wait, make it a hot chocolate. No marshmallows. Posted by: mindful webworker - don't marsh my mallow at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (yqA/D) 2
Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (cYBz/) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (04Glf) 4
Is Santa humping that beer?
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:01 PM (ZjL9c) 5
2st!
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:01 PM (0fIud) 6
Happy Saturday!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:01 PM (6p0Jv) 7
Is Santa humping that beer?
Posted by: GWB ----------- Milk and cookies finally put Santa on tilt. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:03 PM (LVaYG) 8
Good evening morons and слава тройке!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:03 PM (BW4I7) 9
RC Cola is fine. I'd rather get a stockingful of switches and coal than eat a Moonpie. Marshmallow and Graham cracker. Worst snacks ever. Chocolate cannot cover the multitude of this sin.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:06 PM (6p0Jv) 10
Just had an RC cola yesterday. Cashier at Dollar Tree asked me about it. Told her RC was big in the 60s and 70s. It was for those who didn't have enough money for a Coke or Pepsi. Disappeared for a while in my area. Tasted better than house brand colas.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:06 PM (uQesX) 11
FIRST … ! Okayyyyyyyy … 'kinda' …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 06, 2025 10:07 PM (ayRl+) 12
My favorite ONT of the week. Thank you Doof Dino, and Doggo! I will now show myself to the WT and peruse the content. JQ! A round if you please.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:07 PM (TfUTr) 13
ROC and a moonpie. Brings back lots of memories.
Around the parts I grew up in that was a thing. Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 10:08 PM (5Je/N) 14
I'll buy the Horde a round. No egg nog.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:08 PM (6p0Jv) 15
Evenin'
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 10:08 PM (DqJmd) 16
Can't stand marshmallow. I liked it as a kid. I also used to like coconut. Don't like it now. Anyone elses food tastes change as the get older?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:08 PM (7RYym) 17
Hey, Santa deserves a cold one. He's working hard yo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (kpS4V) 18
Yay, ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (lUFok) 19
I swear I never heard of Krampus until very recently. It was never mentioned when I was small, I know (I'd have been too terrified to sleep on Dec. 5). And in all my wide reading about supernatural manifestations and beliefs in my adult life, I *never* heard of this entity until just a few years ago. Are we sure it's not a creation of Hollywood so they can have a new horror franchise? The Krampus: Naughty Is Nice (well, okay, that sounds like a pr0n title, but you get the idea)?
Krampus IV: Naughty Is Fatal! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9) 20
Howdy 3Ds!
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (fveCG) 21
What, no bottles of yellow HEET by the checkout? I can’t figure out why that stuff is still sold. When fuel tanks were vented and carburetors ruled, gas line freeze ups were common. A bottle of HEET would set things right. Today fuel systems are completely closed, and most gasoline contains 10% alcohol anyhow.
Related - everyone used to carry jumper cables. If you were thinking ahead anyway. Before electronic ignition, before fuel injection, unless you kept your car in a high state of tune a subzero or below zero engine start was an iffy proposition. I haven’t needed a jump start since forever. But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard. Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (0fIud) 22
RC was the AMC of Colas. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (DJUFe) 23
Reckon I gotta pay a visit to Old State Saloon. It's not far down the road. And I think I would like the clientele. But. Gotta have my glowie radar set.
Being an introvert is a good thing, mostly. Ah, hell, I'll never go. Never mind. Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (0aYVJ) 24
Saw a funny cartoon: "It's not waterboarding if you use eggnog".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (kpS4V) 25
16 Can't stand marshmallow. I liked it as a kid. I also used to like coconut. Don't like it now. Anyone elses food tastes change as the get older?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke --------- Heh. I think you and I could do a whole ONT on how time has changed taste buds. Like you, script has flipped here on many, many things too. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (LVaYG) 26
You also drop salted peanuts in an RC.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (Wmg4n) 27
Oh yes, li much prefer St. Nicholas to Santa Claus.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (7RYym) 28
Can't stand marshmallow. I liked it as a kid. I also used to like coconut. Don't like it now. Anyone elses food tastes change as the get older?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke Yes - I'm with you with marshmallow. Also, I used to be able to eat damn near anything no matter how spicey. Blow-the-top-of-your-head-off hot was a favorite. No more. I can barely do crushed red pepper flakes on my pasta these days. Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (cYBz/) 29
Hello, Horde! 😊♥️🎄
Surgery is scheduled for Thursday (Dec. 11th) at 2:30 pm. Prayers would be appreciated 🙏🙏🙏 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (SRRAx) 30
A cold slice of that meat clown and a bowl of Kaboom with warm reconstituted milk. Mmm mmm mmm, Christmas dinner!
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (GALGA) 31
@ 10 Just had an RC cola yesterday. Cashier at Dollar Tree asked me about it. Told her RC was big in the 60s and 70s. It was for those who didn't have enough money for a Coke or Pepsi. Disappeared for a while in my area. Tasted better than house brand colas.
______________________________________ You need to visit Bell Buckle, TN … every year, this li'l town of 430 people hold the 'RC Cola & Moon Pie Festival'. The waitress at the restaurant where my daughter & I had lunch about 3 weeks ago said they get about 100K people over the course of that week. I have NO idea where they park or eat, 'cos we were there in NON-festival time and, even tho' we saw the entire town in 30 minutes or so, there just ain't that much room 'cos it's all built next to each other … but hey, MOON PIES & R-O-C Cola! Win-win every time … Posted by: Dr_No at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (ayRl+) 32
After the first Gulf War, fizzy beverages were difficult to find as supply chains were not re-established quickly, The Embassy chow hall had an RC drink machine that dispensed tepid RC's that were flatter than Rachel Corrie. But we sure as heck drank them after working in 120-130 degree heat. I'll always have a small (tiny) place in my heart for RC because of that.
Posted by: moki at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (wLjpr) 33
RC Cola is fine. I'd rather get a stockingful of switches and coal than eat a Moonpie. Marshmallow and Graham cracker. Worst snacks ever. Chocolate cannot cover the multitude of this sin.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 *** Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 swore that RC Cola was the best soft drink, and that Skippy Super Chunk peanut butter was the best in that department. As for the Moon Pie, maybe it was better decades ago. I had a freebie mini-pie the other night, and it was chalky and reminded me of sweetened sawdust. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (wzUl9) 34
I love egg nog but it is not popular around here.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:12 PM (93/YK) 35
Will keep you in prayer, Teresa. Thanks for letting us know the date, dear
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:12 PM (7RYym) 36
Thanks for the ONT.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 10:12 PM (zZu0s) 37
Sorry I'm late:
Current Wumpus status: ✅️ Hunted Not Hunted (I would have been here sooner if I had the cheat codes.) Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (KDYdw) 38
I once had the RC Cola and Moonpie combo. Closest I've ever come to developing diabetes.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (lUFok) 39
I used to make egg nog as a kid. The recipe was in one of my mom's cookbooks. Didn't think twice about chugging down raw egg, which now sounds terrible.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (GALGA) 40
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:12 PM (93/YK)
Now that they have lactose free egg I can drink it again. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (7RYym) 41
I find it difficult to respect a site which would include me in its top tenish comments. Very disappointing, heartbreaking even.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (ZTJjv) 42
Hey, Santa deserves a cold one. He's working hard yo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (kpS4V) My kids would leave me a beer and some kind of salty snack. They knew who Santa is. We never had to sit them down and give the The Talk. My folks didn't either. Kids are not dumb, mostly. Just play along. Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (0aYVJ) 43
But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 *** I have a set in the Buick. Haven't used 'em in years. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: four seasons at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (3ek7K) 45
Reckon I gotta pay a visit to Old State Saloon. It's not far down the road. And I think I would like the clientele. But. Gotta have my glowie radar set.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy Why can't all States be like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon...hell, Red States in general! Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr) 46
Can't stand marshmallow. I liked it as a kid. I also used to like coconut. Don't like it now. Anyone elses food tastes change as the get older? Posted by: FenelonSpoke =========== I came around to admitting that there are things I don't like. My mom always offered me maaaarrrrsshhhmalloooows! as if they were something special, so I thought they were. In reality, I didn't like them. Now I don't eat them, even if they're lying around free or an option for my cocoa. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (isqj7) 47
Krampus is Metal Santa. Norwegian black metal soundtrack.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 06, 2025 10:15 PM (0aYVJ) 48
Krampus V: He's Coming For YOU
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:15 PM (wzUl9) 49
Thanks for a special holiday-ish edition of the Saturday Night ONT, Disco, Doggo and Dino!
Great Saturday night jokes! (He knows when to stop... heh) Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (kB9dk) 50
I made the Martha Stewart egg nog recipe one year. A fifth of bourbon was in it. I forget the other ingredients.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (6p0Jv) 51
Moonpies are an acquired taste.
Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (5Je/N) 52
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (LVaYG)
Yes, we probably but then we'd sound rather like old grouches😉. There was some poor poster On here recently that can't eat nuts or maybe it was raw nuts. Anyone, I could empathize with his pain. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (7RYym) 53
41 I find it difficult to respect a site which would include me in its top tenish comments. Very disappointing, heartbreaking even.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel ----------- Shakes algorithm machine. Shakes clerical dep't too. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (LVaYG) 54
Surgery is scheduled for Thursday (Dec. 11th) at 2:30 pm. Prayers would be appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. Best of everything for you. Prayers and hopes for you and your family. Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (TfUTr) 55
Tom Seaver was a spokesman for RC Cola and so was Meredith MacRae more than a half-century ago.
Posted by: Cola Wars at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (oftw2) 56
BBIAB. Gonna go walk the hound and look at the Christmas lights.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (GALGA) 57
I remember all the contortions working people (no garage for many) had to do to get to work on a cold winter morning. Go out about an hour early on Monday morning and (hopefully) get the damn thing started, let it idle and maybe warm up a bit. Steam and exhaust rising everywhere. Alternators moaning and fan belts squeeling. Snow makes crunching noises when it’s really super cold.
The really interesting stories are the early days. Hand crank starters, women and children need not apply. It used to be common to drain the oil out and bring it in the house, and reinstall in the morning. Basically either that, or light a fire under the engine, or use charcoal under the pan all night. Kerosene was often used for antifreeze. It works, but rubber hoses didn’t care for that too much. Alcohol was used too, but it was expensive, and loses potency over time. Glycol coolant/antifreeze aka “permanent” antifreeze was a big deal, as was the electric starter. To say nothing of power steering. Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:18 PM (0fIud) 58
Prayers for Teresa. God bless.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:18 PM (6p0Jv) Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:18 PM (DJUFe) 60
Are we sure it's not a creation of Hollywood so they can have a new horror franchise? The Krampus: Naughty Is Nice (well, okay, that sounds like a pr0n title, but you get the idea)?
Krampus IV: Naughty Is Fatal! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9) I always thought it was that crazy history group: E Krampus Vitellius. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:18 PM (uQesX) 61
RC Cola was considered "bargain-brand" like Fanta. Or Faygo.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (BW4I7) 62
Evening, Three D's, and ONT Horde. I think my chili may be ready. Must go sample.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (npFr7) 63
The Evan Williams Egg Nog i like.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (zZu0s) 64
I carry jumper cables. You don't need 'em until you need 'em.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (Q+gd/) 65
Praying Teresa. God bless and keep you and give the surgeons wisdom throughout this procedure.
Posted by: moki at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (wLjpr) 66
DHS) reacted with a gif of a dinosaur character dropping what appeared to be a beer can while it had a dumbfounded look on its face:
Dino...this you? Good evening all good and naughty Morons😷! Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (3pxDZ) 67
First person to mention "grape knee high" gets a nut punch. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (DJUFe) 68
Orange Crush.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (Q+gd/) 69
I soooo want that eggnog!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (3pxDZ) 70
I came around to admitting that there are things I don't like. My mom always offered me maaaarrrrsshhhmalloooows! as if they were something special, so I thought they were. In reality, I didn't like them. Now I don't eat them, even if they're lying around free or an option for my cocoa.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (isqj7) If there are mini-marshmallows hanging around when I make a cup of cocoa, I'll add a few. But only the mini ones. And I won't buy them. Posted by: RickZ at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (gKDq2) 71
Kerosene was often used for antifreeze. It works, but rubber hoses didn’t care for that too much. Alcohol was used too, but it was expensive, and loses potency over time. Glycol coolant/antifreeze aka “permanent” antifreeze was a big deal, as was the electric starter. To say nothing of power steering.
Posted by: Common Tater Dad used to thank heavens we didn't own anything with a flathead in it. Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (TfUTr) 72
but hey, MOON PIES & R-O-C Cola! Win-win every time …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (ayRl+) I'd drink the RC, but ewww. Not that mushmelon thing. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (uQesX) 73
Hello, Horde! 😊♥️🎄
Surgery is scheduled for Thursday (Dec. 11th) at 2:30 pm. Prayers would be appreciated 🙏🙏🙏 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (SRRAx) May every damned thing come out all right! Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:22 PM (npFr7) 74
>>Marshmallow and Graham cracker. Worst snacks ever. Chocolate cannot cover the multitude of this sin.
If you add the heat from a campfire it becomes magic. Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:22 PM (viF8m) 75
The Flying Lizards?
The thing I remember about that band (which made the charts, btw) was that every time I heard something by them I thought to myself, "I could do that. But, I'd have to be really drunk and focused on something else at the time." They were horrendous, and people paid to see and hear them. For the life of me I don't know why. How am I supposed to make fun of the latest generation's music if at any time they can point to "The Flying Lizards" and blow up my argument? Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (dIske) 76
Marshmallows. I was so thankful to not have to make the disgusting sweet potato marshmallow thing this Thanksgiving.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (6p0Jv) 77
Should update the post, but I'll leave it here. Being reported that someone won the Beer For A Month thingy. He turned in a Republican rep that was allegedly hiring illegals at her farm.
https://tinyurl.com/2xx6z3tr Link goes to Headline USA - never heard of the place. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (LVaYG) 78
Watch out tomorrow for Japanese aviators transmitting "Tora, Tora, Tora" tomorrow.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (S/Y4j) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:24 PM (04Glf) 80
December 6, 1917 is the day that the Mont Blanc, a cargo ship carrying explosives bound for the fighting in Europe, collided with another ship, sparking a fire.
Fires are not good on a ship loaded with TNT. The resulting blast was the largest man-made explosion ever, until the Trinity nuclear test in 1945. This song tells the story: https://youtu.be/T_5PHU7vQu4 Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:24 PM (KDYdw) 81
First person to mention "grape knee high" gets a nut punch.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 *** We had one here, a local soft drink called Big Shot. A Coca-Cola wannabe. We also had Rex Root Beer, a competitor to (or maybe a sub-brand of) Barq's. Barq's was a bit tart, Rex was sweeter. On a road trip to MS in the early '70s, we saw a brand called Sunrise. Someone quipped, "Drink that stuff and you'll never see another sunrise!" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:24 PM (wzUl9) 82
66 DHS reacted with a gif of a dinosaur character dropping what appeared to be a beer can while it had a dumbfounded look on its face:
Dino...this you? Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM *** Nope. That's Earl Sinclair. I would never drop a beer. Posted by: TRex - beer is our friend at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ITBpd) 83
The American Santa Claus, as well as the British Father Christmas, derive from Saint Nicholas.
Note that there was no Santa Claus, nor even much Christmas at all, in America (at least in the states originally planted by Protestant Religious Dissenters) before the Germans and such came. The Religious Dissenters were all pretty iconoclastic and didn't do "saints" or feast days, except Easter. It was considered idolatry or pretty adjacent thereto. The Germans (and the Nordic folks) brought "Santa Klaus" and things like the Christmas tree to America. Americans seemed to actually think that was pretty cool, and made it their own. I think all except the most Grinchy of Christian denominations now accepts that celebrating Jesus' birth is almost as important as celebrating His death and resurrection. Of course, a lot of Americans (including a lot of Christians) have forgotten that's what is being celebrated at Christmas. (And most have forgotten it's supposed to be celebrated from Christmas to Epiphany, with the 4 weeks leading up to Christmas being Advent, when you are celebrating looking forward to Jesus coming, instead of already here.) Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (04Glf) 85
I swear I never heard of Krampus until very recently.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9) --- Unless you're of Alpine German descent, you wouldn't have. Back in high school, we learned about Krampusnacht and various other folklore that was annihilated in this country when German language newspapers and culture were banned by Woodrow Wilson. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (ZOv7s) 86
RC Cola was considered "bargain-brand" like Fanta. Or Faygo.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (BW4I7) Yeah, if you didn't have enough pocket change for Coke, you got RC. Isn't Fanta a German creation? Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (uQesX) 87
f you add the heat from a campfire it becomes magic.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:22 PM (viF8m) Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (npFr7) 88
"Prevents deposits" - so it could work on arterial plaque?
"Removes water" - and it's a diuretic?! Sounds like a Moron self-help liquid! Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:27 PM (ZjL9c) 89
Beer for a month. LOLz I do hope, though , that the saloon doesn't get vandalized . I did notice today that there is a bar about 30 minutes from me that has a Gasden flag outside their establishment . I like it
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:27 PM (7RYym) 90
Note that there was no Santa Claus, nor even much Christmas at all, in America (at least in the states originally planted by Protestant Religious Dissenters) before the Germans and such came.
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c) --- Celebrating Christmas was illegal under the Puritans. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:27 PM (ZOv7s) 91
Marshmallow and Graham cracker. Worst snacks ever. Chocolate cannot cover the multitude of this sin.
If you add the heat from a campfire it becomes magic. Posted by: JackStraw ---- I usually dig your posts, but no thanks to the graham crackers and marshmallows, sir. To each their own. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:28 PM (6p0Jv) 92
Good evening Horde. Thanks for being here.
Enjoy your time in Club ONT, especially if your table is wobbly. Extra prayers for Teresa! Posted by: TRex - Das or Der or Die Krampas? at December 06, 2025 10:28 PM (ITBpd) 93
remember "Za-Rex" the syrup? Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:28 PM (DJUFe) 94
Surprised no Morons mentioned St. Nicholas was also famous for socking Arius right in the kisser at the Council of Nicea.
Santa Claus kicking some heretic ass. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (ZOv7s) 95
But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard.
Probably since a good lithium battery jump kit is the same price as sturdy jumper cables and takes up far less room in the vehicle. The Bonus is that you don't need someone friendly nearby who has the time and ability to help. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (a4flb) 96
Unless you're of Alpine German descent, you wouldn't have. Back in high school, we learned about Krampusnacht and various other folklore that was annihilated in this country when German language newspapers and culture were banned by Woodrow Wilson.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 *** Oddly, I *am* of German stock (Alpine? Not sure) on my father's side. But he never talked about that or much at all about his family. So I see why I wouldn't have heard of Krampus. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (wzUl9) 97
The "Pop Shop" "Great tasting sodas for only a nickel!"
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (TfUTr) 98
Not the Mama
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 10:30 PM (pkeXY) 99
Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (npFr7) --- When we make s'mores, I'd just eat graham crackers and chocolate. Cooking marshmallows added nothing. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:30 PM (ZOv7s) 100
Why would you ruin good chocolate with marshmallow? I have never understood this.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:30 PM (93/YK) 101
At this exact moment...84 years ago... the Germans got the okay from FDR & Henry Ford to bomb Pearl Harbor Posted by: Soothsayer's Wacky WWII ConspiracyTheories at December 06, 2025 10:31 PM (DJUFe) 102
First person to mention "grape knee high" gets a nut punch.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (DJUFe) * * * * Ha! Used to love grape Nehi! Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:31 PM (kB9dk) 103
97 The "Pop Shop" "Great tasting sodas for only a nickel!"
Posted by: Some Rat ---------- My man. Off Sprague & Bowdish...I think. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:31 PM (LVaYG) 104
>>Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Proper marshmallow toasting is an art form. Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (viF8m) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (04Glf) 106
Celebrating Christmas was illegal under the Puritans.
Especially since according to John's Revelation, our LORD was born on what would be today's calendar equivalent of September 11th, 2BC some where around 6:15 PM Standard Jerusalem Time. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (a4flb) 107
Prayers continue, Teresa! Everything will be just fine. You are in His good hands!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (kB9dk) 108
...and Joe Kennedy Posted by: Soothsayer's Wacky WWII ConspiracyTheories at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (DJUFe) 109
I once had the RC Cola and Moonpie combo. Closest I've ever come to developing diabetes.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (lUFok) Rookie move. Shoulda gone with the double decker moon pie! Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (nB1L/) 110
Oddly, I *am* of German stock (Alpine? Not sure) on my father's side. But he never talked about that or much at all about his family. So I see why I wouldn't have heard of Krampus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (wzUl9) --- My great-grandparents spoke fluent German, but under cultural pressure, refused to teach it to their children because it was the language of the enemy. Long about 1943, my grandfather thought: "Gosh, I wished they'd have taught it to me. Would sure be useful guarding all these German PoWs!" Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (ZOv7s) 111
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c)
I am reading a book now for Advent and Christmas which is called "Jesus Listens" with spiritual reflections and Bible quotes. It is by Saran Young who wrote a ton of books ( I haven't read any but this And who died several year ago which also has lovely sweet illustrations mostly of animals in the snow. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (7RYym) 112
Dang if ain't foggy here, pea soup. Temp is 33F, and RH is 100%. However, it isn't cloudy above, and I can see the Moon, Jupiter, Orion, and Sirius, and a couple three or four other bright ones. The rain gauge on the weather station tripped .01" due to the fog condensation. That's how foggy it is. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (w6EFb) 113
I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (oftw2) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (04Glf) 115
Especially since according to John's Revelation, our LORD was born on what would be today's calendar equivalent of September 11th, 2BC some where around 6:15 PM Standard Jerusalem Time.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (a4flb) --- No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (ZOv7s) 116
41 I find it difficult to respect a site which would include me in its top tenish comments. Very disappointing, heartbreaking even.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (ZTJjv) How do you think the rest of us feel? But, truly, great comment. We're all expecting big things from you in the future. Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:34 PM (KDYdw) 117
It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC at December 06, 2025 10:35 PM (oftw2) 118
I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in. Posted by: Semper Paratus How often do you have to charge it up? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 10:35 PM (pkeXY) 119
My man. Off Sprague & Bowdish...I think.
Posted by: scampydog Sounds about right...somewhere in the depths of Sainted Mothers domicile, there is a Pop Shop crate. My family throws NOTHING away. Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:36 PM (TfUTr) 120
>>When we make s'mores, I'd just eat graham crackers and chocolate. Cooking marshmallows added nothing.
Not everyone is gifted with good taste buds. I will pray for you. Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:36 PM (viF8m) 121
113 I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (oftw2) me too Posted by: E knievel at December 06, 2025 10:37 PM (gbOdA) 122
98 Not the Mama
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 10:30 PM *** Gold star. Well done. Posted by: TRex - working the vanvera rental counter dino at December 06, 2025 10:37 PM (ITBpd) 123
Are we sure it's not a creation of Hollywood so they can have a new horror franchise?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9) I wonder if it didn't come to America with the other Germanic traditions because of the (mostly Calvinist) Protestant bent of much of America? They would definitely look askance at any celebration involving a demon or other representation of evil. (Oh, how so much has changed.) Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:37 PM (ZjL9c) Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:38 PM (6p0Jv) 125
The Meat Clowns was the name of my high school garage band.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 10:39 PM (R86kT) 126
The brand is deserving of some Horde slogans and taglines:
"RC Cola, the red-headed step-child of Colas." "Pour yourself a Royal Crown mixed with Crown Royal because if that's what you're drinking there's no one else there to pour it for you." Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 10:39 PM (dIske) 127
Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Proper marshmallow toasting is an art form. Posted by: JackStraw Set the marshmallows on fire, they burn out, consume. That's the way it was, it's the way it will always be. Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (TfUTr) 128
114 Nehi Grape Cola is the best. Orange not so much.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (04Glf) My mom had a sad story she was sent down the road to get Orange but she got Grape. She was about 6 and her mom was quite upset. Posted by: E knievel at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (gbOdA) 129
I had a poster of the RC Cola girl on a skateboard.
Posted by: vin at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (cC0M+) 130
Wooo, what a day.
Got your orders, Some Rat & BarelyScaryMary... coming up! And an extra round -- on me, 'cause late! Happy Caturday, all! Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (rdVOm) 131
As a boy I tried Dr. Pepper. Once. Years later I had it described to me as "carbonated prune juice," and I have to think that was on the money. (Yes, I know Lt. Worf considers it a "warrior's drink.")
The other big treat disappointment of my kidhood was a new flavor of Life Savers. They used to have more than just Pep-O-Mint, Spear-O-Mint, and Wint-O-Green. I was on a (heh) roll, trying them all . . . until I hit Clove. That ended my experiments in candy for a while. I don't recall now what it tasted like, but I know my ten-year-old taste buds Did Not Like It. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (wzUl9) 132
No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit.
I suppose that it is the vulgar explanation, but Puritans were committed to the Regulative Principle of Worship and Roman Catholic Tradition, tied to a liturgical calendar and Papal authority was outside explicit commands in Scripture to be part of Worship. I'm guessing that the Saturnalia tie-in, the Observation of Days (rather than Sabbath) and the usual bacchanalian atmosphere made the 25th of December too pagan for their tastes. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (a4flb) 133
But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (0fIud) Nope. I carry them, too. Saved my kid's bacon once or twice, as well as mine. (I did learn the hard way that the amount of electricity flowing through a jumper cable can melt thick rubber. Do NOT cross the wires when jumping!) However, I am considering tossing them for a jumpstart device. Because it can also serve as an emergency device for pumping up your tires and recharging your phone (if your car itself is broke). Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (ZjL9c) Posted by: E knievel at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (gbOdA) 135
Did someone say grape nehi soda?
Posted by: Radar O'Riley at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (ITBpd) 136
This Indiana - Ohio State game is really entertaining.
No matter how hard they try to ruin college football this has been a day of really good games. Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (viF8m) 137
I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at December 06, 2025 *** What are these things called, and where can you buy one? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9) 138
Campfire in the back yard, which is on 6 acres and isolated. Night has fallen, stars shine brightly overhead. Roasting marshmallows for s'mores.
Perfection. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (kB9dk) 139
In his role as St. Nicholas’s companion, Krampus's main duty is to punish or threaten naughty children while the saint rewards good ones.
It used to be that Krampus coming to punish the naughty children was for those parts of Germany where providing a beat-down on your punk-ass nephews was considered a valuable family value. Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (rbvCR) 140
78 Watch out tomorrow for Japanese aviators transmitting "Tora, Tora, Tora" tomorrow.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (S/Y4j) Or an attack on Gaza with callsign “Torah, Torah, Torah!” Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (c7Ygk) 141
It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate? Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (cYBz/) 142
83 And most have forgotten it's supposed to be celebrated from Christmas to Epiphany,
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c) That's where we get the 12 Days of Christmas. Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (KDYdw) 143
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (rdVOm)
------------ JQ, looking like next Saturday for the Club ONT Christmas Party! Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:43 PM (LVaYG) 144
RC Cola wasn't that bad. I say "wasn't" because I've literally not had one in the last 30 years.
Perhaps if RC had hit the "Diet RC Cola" with a big ad-spend back in the day, they'd be in a different place. Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:43 PM (Cjcf6) 145
Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 *** Because, like a certain other public figure, He has it locked away? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:43 PM (wzUl9) 146
Here's a tiny peek at the back area, look past the end of bar. There's a room around the corner, where the wobbly table resides:
tinyurl.com/5n97kfzw Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (rdVOm) 147
It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate? It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC. Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate? ----- Liberals say we can do that for air travel, but not for voting purposes. Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (Cjcf6) 148
Any of you guys ever drink Moxie? We used to say it was made from roots and dirt.
Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (dIske) 149
I suppose that it is the vulgar explanation, but Puritans were committed to the Regulative Principle of Worship and Roman Catholic Tradition, tied to a liturgical calendar and Papal authority was outside explicit commands in Scripture to be part of Worship.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (a4flb) --- They were so obnoxious that literally no one in Europe could put up with them. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (ZOv7s) 150
Why can't all States be like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon...hell, Red States in general!
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr) It's the people. It's always the people who screw it up for everyone else. Also, great hash, though I can't come up with any fun meanings at the moment. Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (ZjL9c) 151
Everybody is late. I have a great excuse though. I was taking photographs of salmon dressed up in women's clothes. I tell you it was like shooting fish in apparel.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (CDX35) 152
JQ, the Club ONT Christmas decorations are totally fabulous!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (6p0Jv) 153
After the first Gulf War, fizzy beverages were difficult to find as supply chains were not re-established quickly,
While running around doing things in Kabul during the fun years, I mentioned to my 'terp that I would like a can of Monster and for $20US he returned with a case of it the next day. You can't even get it in the US for anywhere near that price. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (a4flb) 154
Dany Okeefe best version of Goodtime Charlie
Posted by: E knievel at December 06, 2025 10:46 PM (gbOdA) 155
There is the Finnish movie, Rare Exports, which is about the Krampus legend.
"In the depths of the Korvatunturi mountains, 486 meters deep, lies the closest ever guarded secret of Christmas. The time has come to dig it up. This Christmas everyone will believe in Santa Claus." Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 10:46 PM (rbvCR) 156
off sox
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 06, 2025 10:46 PM (gbOdA) 157
Liberals say we can do that for air travel, but not for voting purposes.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (Cjcf6) --- Liberals think its perfectly fine to restrict your rights to do anything at all without a shot record, but voter ID is discriminatory. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:47 PM (ZOv7s) 158
Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate?
----- Liberals say we can do that for air travel, but not for voting purposes. Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (Cjcf6) Jesus had it easy All his words were in RED. Posted by: rhennigantx at December 06, 2025 10:47 PM (gbOdA) 159
I made the Martha Stewart egg nog recipe one year. A fifth of bourbon was in it. I
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (6p0Jv) FIFY. Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:47 PM (ZjL9c) 160
They were so obnoxious that literally no one in Europe could put up with them.
Rome found pretty much anyone who didn't prostrate themselves before the Pope as worthy of torture and death. I guess that is that culture's idea of "obnoxious". Now the Pope is in love with the death cult Islam. Maybe if the Puritans sawed off a few heads and killed scores of people in crowds, they wouldn't have been run off. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (a4flb) 161
138 Campfire in the back yard, which is on 6 acres and isolated. Night has fallen, stars shine brightly overhead. Roasting marshmallows for s'mores.
Perfection. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM *** Excellent! Enjoy! Posted by: TRex - just past full moon dino at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (ITBpd) 162
Any of you guys ever drink Moxie? We used to say it was made from roots and dirt.
Posted by: Orson --- It is a root beer beloved by Maine-iacs? No. I have not partook. But I've liked the Maine-iacs I've known. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (6p0Jv) 163
105 Rained last week, time to cut the grass again.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others ----------- You live at the equator? Negative 12 here tonight. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (LVaYG) 164
If you add the heat from a campfire it becomes magic.
Posted by: JackStraw ---- I usually dig your posts, but no thanks to the graham crackers and marshmallows, sir. To each their own. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:28 PM (6p0Jv) My campfire smore recipe includes a schmear of peanut butter. Keeps the Hershey bar in place. To that you add one perfectly toasted marshmallow. Press the top graham cracker on to the assembled ingredients and chase it down with a couple fingers of Jack Daniels.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 10:49 PM (nbLIj) 165
Eating mushmelon is like having a mouth full of phlegm.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:49 PM (uQesX) 166
117 It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC at December 06, 2025 10:35 PM (oftw2) Not sure of the day, but the year seems about right. The monk who determined year zero was off by a few, but he was close, for the time period. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 10:49 PM (6Bc88) Posted by: rhennigantx at December 06, 2025 10:50 PM (gbOdA) 168
I like the non-alcoholic eggnogs you can get in the cartons at Aldi and Walmart. They should be available at other times.
(It would, I know, if I made it myself) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:50 PM (wzUl9) 169
JQ, looking like next Saturday for the Club ONT Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog ------- Awesome!!! I've been decorating the beer garden out back, but only have this "before" pic: https://tinyurl.com/dexehamt No worries, I've added colored lights too. Need to keep those big white lights, so our guests can still see where they're going, LOL Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:50 PM (rdVOm) 170
What are these things called, and where can you buy one?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9) Booster packs, or something like that. Commonly look like a yellow lunchbox with a pair of booster cable clamps on short leads attached to the ends. Amazon, Harbor Freight, Walmart, and any auto supply store, and big-box stores. They are everywhere. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:51 PM (npFr7) 171
>> The monk who determined year zero was off by a few, but he was close, for the time period.
And he probably adjusted it so that leap years were exact multiples of 4, without a vexing offset. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 10:51 PM (w6EFb) 172
Rome found pretty much anyone who didn't prostrate themselves before the Pope as worthy of torture and death.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (a4flb) --- They were kicked to the curb by Protestants. Rome had nothing to do with it. The English kicked them out, so they went to the Dutch, who were Calvinists but got tired of their shit and sent them back. The English strongly encouraged them to get on a slow boat to nowhere, which is how they ended up here. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:52 PM (ZOv7s) 173
Could we just not fight over Puritans again and make generalizatios because they chose not to celebrate Christmas ? Jonathan Edward's who was the most prolific religious writer in America and a Puritan and is only known for writing "Sinners In The Hand of An Angry God" because that all the @ public school used to teach.
had a great appreciation for the love of God and nature and what he wrote about his wife is beautiful I am for tonight . I hate religious arguments here Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:52 PM (lQ+/f) 174
Campfire in the back yard, which is on 6 acres and isolated. Night has fallen, stars shine brightly overhead. Roasting marshmallows for s'mores.
Perfection. Posted by: Legally Sufficient --------- Sounds like heaven on a clear night! I need to build a firepit area in my yard... Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:52 PM (rdVOm) 175
I was on a (heh) roll, trying them all . . . until I hit Clove. That ended my experiments in candy for a while. I don't recall now what it tasted like, but I know my ten-year-old taste buds Did Not Like It.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (wzUl9) So, how do you feel about clove cigarettes? Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:52 PM (uQesX) 176
50 I made the Martha Stewart egg nog recipe one year. A fifth of bourbon was in it. I forget the other ingredients.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (6p0Jv) I made Alton Brown's eggnog - a lot of alcohol - delicious! Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (bOJ2I) 177
151 Everybody is late. I have a great excuse though. I was taking photographs of salmon dressed up in women's clothes. I tell you it was like shooting fish in apparel.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (CDX35) Very nice. Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (KDYdw) 178
Farking windy out there, and not letting up. People in Palmer and Wasilla are posting things like, "If your shed is missing, I think it is in my back yard."
Wings blown off light planes, trees down across roads, roofs blown off several places in Wasilla, including Settler's Bay Lodge, which is my go-to fancy dinner place, about 10 miles up the road. Closed until further notice. Walmart lost some roof too. I don't go there, so no loss. Ruby paced all night, miserable since it sounds like Armageddon out there when it is over 20 mph. She DOES NOT LIKE. I didn't really notice, but then, I sleep through earthquakes. So far we are intact and have power, but I have a fire in the wood stove just in case. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (6Bc88) 179
The Evan Williams Egg Nog i like.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone Do those have the booze already in them. I saw an old lady driving one of the grocery store scooters tap into one right out of the cooler... Glug glug glug .. ... and scooter on down the aisle. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (/lPRQ) 180
Before they overplayed the crap out of it and all the Super Band bullshit of the 70s started this was a fun song. And Lyndsey Buckingham could play.
I have no idea why Mick Fleetwood was wearing his laundry on his head. https://tinyurl.com/3yn4ze4c Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (viF8m) 181
It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (VCgbV) 182
Birth certificate? The courthouse burned down.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (YlWIZ) 183
Saint Nick was a Catholic bishop. There ain't no Mrs. Claus.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (W7XSX) 184
My campfire smore recipe includes a schmear of peanut butter. Keeps the Hershey bar in place. To that you add one perfectly toasted marshmallow. Press the top graham cracker on to the assembled ingredients and chase it down with a couple fingers of Jack Daniels..
Posted by: Joe Kidd --- Jack Daniel's is the only thing that would make s'mores tasty. I've never made them. Would rather skip the preliminaries. Graham Crackers and marshmallows take up pack weight. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (6p0Jv) 185
Surprised no Morons mentioned St. Nicholas was also famous for socking Arius right in the kisser at the Council of Nicea.
Santa Claus kicking some heretic ass. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (ZOv7s) Thanks for the reminder! Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (ZjL9c) 186
RC cost the same as the other brand names where I lived.
I'm five states over now and they still cost the same as the other colas. Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (5Je/N) 187
All the theories about the birthdate of Jesus are quite interesting. Also just what the Star of Bethlehem could've been. There are theories there. There was a striking, very close conjunction of Jupiter and Venus near Regulus in June of 2BC. That led to one theory of Jesus birth as in spring of 2BC. But that would have been in the western sky at sunset, not in the east. There are some others and if interested, it's fascinating. But none of them can account for all the properties ascribed to the Star. Herod's death is widely considered to be 4BC, but that is disputed, could've been as late as 1BC. Anyway, the consensus is 6 - 4BC. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (w6EFb) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (lQ+/f) 189
It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (VCgbV) --- You're not supposed to add them until Epiphany. Set them on the other side of the room and have them creep towards the Nativity. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (ZOv7s) 190
Booster packs, or something like that. Commonly look like a yellow lunchbox with a pair of booster cable clamps on short leads attached to the ends. Amazon, Harbor Freight, Walmart, and any auto supply store, and big-box stores. They are everywhere.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 *** You charge them at home via USB, I guess? Is there any risk of them starting a fire in your car when not in use? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9) 191
Here's what I call the "lunch counter" area of the Club. Just white lights there:
https://tinyurl.com/2rmbd9xf Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (rdVOm) 192
Tomorrow is the day when travon sakamoto wants to bomb pearl bailey.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (CDX35) 193
Everybody is late. I have a great excuse though. I was taking photographs of salmon dressed up in women's clothes. I tell you it was like shooting fish in apparel.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (CDX35) Why were you wearing women's clothes? Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (uQesX) 194
Well, the chili is good enough that I will have another bowl. Then put the leftovers in the fridge. Or put it outside for ten minutes to chill in the sub-zero air. Less work for the fridge to do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (npFr7) 195
It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
That is a stretch. Herod's death plus a few years. It was Josephus who noted that Herod died shortly after a lunar eclipse before Passover. So those who like Josephus' reckoning in March/April BCE. It is my expert opinion that anyone using BCE is a liar and can't be trusted with any theological or biblical historical questions because their motives are to foster distrust of Scripture rather than to pursue Truth. But since no one's salvation is contingent on the exact date, I really don't care what people want to believe. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (a4flb) Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:57 PM (W7XSX) 197
181 It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (VCgbV) Next you’ll tell me that there wasn’t any snow on the ground. Killjoy. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 10:57 PM (c7Ygk) 198
Tomorrow is the day when travon sakamoto wants to bomb pearl bailey.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (CDX35) --- Lol. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (6p0Jv) 199
I was on a (heh) roll, trying them all . . . until I hit Clove. That ended my experiments in candy for a while. I don't recall now what it tasted like, but I know my ten-year-old taste buds Did Not Like It.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 * So, how do you feel about clove cigarettes? Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 *** I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (wzUl9) 200
99 Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (npFr7) --- When we make s'mores, I'd just eat graham crackers and chocolate. Cooking marshmallows added nothing. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:30 PM (ZOv7s) I want to make Christmas s'mores with Gingerbread Peeps. Don't you think that would be cool? Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 10:59 PM (bOJ2I) 201
LOL, you think the Blessed Virgin Mary didn't remember her Son's birthdate?
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:59 PM (W7XSX) 202
Oh yes. One more thing: Jonathan Edwards on his future wife:
https://tinyurl.com/53hb7uhs Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (lQ+/f) --- Streaming series pitch: Outlander but instead of going to Scotland, she goes to New England and is romanced by Jonathan Edwards-type dude. Use actual letters and quotes to make the Christians swoon. Gold, Jerry, pure gold! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:59 PM (ZOv7s) 203
I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (Wmg4n) 204
By the time the 3 wise men showed up, Joseph, Mary, and Jesus were in a house.
Look it up. Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 *** No shortage of affordable houses? I guess Blackrock wasn't buying up everything in sight yet. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9) 205
Rome found pretty much anyone who didn't prostrate themselves before the Pope as worthy of torture and death.
I guess that is that culture's idea of "obnoxious". Now the Pope is in love with the death cult Islam. Maybe if the Puritans sawed off a few heads and killed scores of people in crowds, they wouldn't have been run off. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (a4flb) Rome had nothing whatsoever to do with the Puritans. England had been Protestant for years before they showed up. The Puritans were buzz-kills. No dancing, no booze, no colors, no music, no nothing. Catholics, on the other hand, brew beer, have plenty of music and art, believe that God is the author of beauty and deserves the best, and party at the drop of a hat. The Popes come and go, and some of them are quite worthy of a trip to hell. They do stupid stuff, but none of that is particularly Catholic. The only thing the Pope can do infallibly is speak ex-Cathedra, which means he speaks of doctrine and is guided by God to speak the truth AT THAT MOMENT. That hasn't happened since 1950. Otherwise, he is just as much an idiot as any other person. YMMV. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (6Bc88) 206
It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Wasn't the practical aspect of the gift of gold part of the plan to underwrite the family's escape to Egypt because of Herod's desire to kill all the male infants in that area? Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (a4flb) 207
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I want to make Christmas s'mores with Gingerbread Peeps. Don't you think that would be cool? Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 The sugar just burns. We tried it with snowmen. Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:01 PM (Wmg4n) 208
I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper ----------- You missed some Moon Pie blasphemy in the comments. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:02 PM (LVaYG) 209
"Prevents deposits" - so it could work on arterial plaque?
"Removes water" - and it's a diuretic?! Sounds like a Moron self-help liquid! Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:27 PM (ZjL9c) Try looking into Nattokinase instead Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:02 PM (rbvCR) 210
I want to make Christmas s'mores with Gingerbread Peeps. Don't you think that would be cool?
Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 10:59 PM (bOJ2I) --- Our Christmas tradition is bourbon balls. We use Maker's Mark. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:02 PM (ZOv7s) 211
You charge them at home via USB, I guess? Is there any risk of them starting a fire in your car when not in use?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9) I think mostly they have their own on-board charger. Many probably have a USB port so you can charge cellphone. Some may have an inverter built in, so you can get 120 volts AC out of them (for a while). Jacks of all trades; depends on how fancy you want. I'm a car guy, and I don't own one. Have several sets of good (heavy copper) jumper cables. And usually one or more spare batteries to jump with. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:03 PM (npFr7) 212
I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere ---- Good Times Janet Jackson, Diff-rent Strokes Janet Jackson or Nasty Janet Jackson? Asking for lurkers, I'm guessing Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:03 PM (6p0Jv) 213
Next you’ll tell me that there wasn’t any snow on the ground. Killjoy.
Posted by: Tom Servo And that drummer-boy nonsense!! I call bs!! Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 11:03 PM (cYBz/) 214
I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (wzUl9) Did she always Ham it up? Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 11:04 PM (uQesX) 215
203 I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (Wmg4n) Do we need to get HR involved? Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:04 PM (KDYdw) Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:04 PM (viF8m) 217
183 Saint Nick was a Catholic bishop. There ain't no Mrs. Claus.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (W7XSX) I had a couple of homeschool kids in my RE classes for First Communion prep. At Christmas, one of the little dudes pointed at a yard decoration and said, full of indignation, "Who IS that WOMAN!!" Hilarious. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (6Bc88) 218
204 No shortage of affordable houses? I guess Blackrock wasn't buying up everything in sight yet.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9) Joseph was a carpenter, he probably built his own. Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (KDYdw) 219
I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper --------- Disco is a *slave driver!* Didja see the mess of tangled lights he threw on the bar for me, the other night? UGH! Good thing I'd already bought some new ones out of Petty Cash and put them up already... Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (rdVOm) 220
I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper For you folks in SEC land, is the Championship game like a double time day? Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (TfUTr) 221
Balthasar was in Ben Hur.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (pkeXY) 222
A.H. Lloyd - your comment reminded me that my mother used to make bourbon balls every Christmas, but she hasn't done so in ages (and couldn't do so now, anyway). I should dig through her kitchen and find the recipe.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (GALGA) 223
Man, this snifter of brandy is lasting forever. I think I poured out 90 minutes ago. Still a little left, but then to bed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:06 PM (ZOv7s) 224
They were so obnoxious that literally no one in Europe could put up with them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (ZOv7s) Politically they were associated with Oliver Cromwell, and they despised the Church of England for cultural as well as doctrinal reasons. So when the Monarchy was restored and the CofE was given back its primacy in Great Britain, they fell very out of favor. Their problem with the rest of Europe was that they had taken a very anti-monarchial position, and no monarchy (all of Europe except the Dutch at the time) was going to let them in. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:06 PM (c7Ygk) 225
I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere ---- Good Times Janet Jackson, Diff-rent Strokes Janet Jackson or Nasty Janet Jackson? Asking for lurkers, I'm guessing Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 *** Circa 1987, so whichever one that was. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:06 PM (wzUl9) 226
JQ, is that Elf on the Shelf I sent working? Nothing helps the Morons much. I hoped it would help your efforts.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (6p0Jv) 227
For you folks in SEC land, is the Championship game like a double time day? Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:05 Triple and a 1/2 - holiday pay. Also, GO DAWGS! Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (Wmg4n) 228
198 Tomorrow is the day when travon sakamoto wants to bomb pearl bailey.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (CDX35) --- Lol. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (6p0Jv) My sister's kids were born on December 7 and September 11. We call them the disaster kids. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (6Bc88) 229
Balthasar was in Ben Hur.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (pkeXY) --- Played by the same actor who was St. Peter in "Quo Vadis." Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (ZOv7s) 230
There are some interesting devices out there, the size of a pack of smokes and able to jump start a Diesel. Yeah, I’d be leery too, though no horror stories of fires.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (xtYJY) 231
Joseph was a carpenter, he probably built his own.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (KDYdw) I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (npFr7) 232
16 -- Fenelon -- It's age, the gift that keeps on giving. My late mother-in-law spent the last twenty-some years of her life complaining that nothing tasted the way it used to taste, and I would snicker to myself. Well, as they say, Karma is a bitch. Nothing tastes right to me any more. On the positive side, I've lost weight and a couple of sizes in the past few years.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 06, 2025 11:08 PM (DK5Sh) 233
I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus How often do you have to charge it up? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. Wire it in to the cars electrical system to keep it charged. Then take it the next step so if your battery died it will already be wired in and will sense automatically to give you a jump. It will be just carrying a spare battery in case you need a jump but less work... Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 11:08 PM (/lPRQ) 234
Elf on the Shelf has been stuffed back in its box for ClubONT. The guys were complaining about it being over the urinal...
What happens here, *stays* here! It'll be back in place, on top of the cash register, in the morning. Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:09 PM (rdVOm) 235
No shortage of affordable houses? I guess Blackrock wasn't buying up everything in sight yet.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 * Joseph was a carpenter, he probably built his own. Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 *** Ah. Buy some land and you're good to start. No need to deal with RealtorNazareth dot com. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:09 PM (wzUl9) 236
221 Balthasar was in Ben Hur.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (pkeXY) Catholic tradition means we mark the lintel over the front door with chalk with B+M+C and the year. Balthasar, Melchoir, and Caspar, as if they visit for Epiphany and bless the house. It's a cute tradition but a nice reminder. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:09 PM (6Bc88) 237
A.H. Lloyd - your comment reminded me that my mother used to make bourbon balls every Christmas, but she hasn't done so in ages (and couldn't do so now, anyway). I should dig through her kitchen and find the recipe.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (GALGA) --- They are wonderful, and make great gifts. Pack up a half-dozen and people will thank you...a couple of days after they get them. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:09 PM (ZOv7s) 238
JQ,
If the Club ONT Christmas party is next week, I'll bring some trays of Christmas cookies. Let me know if you have any favorites I should include... Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 06, 2025 11:10 PM (ITBpd) 239
Thanks anyway, BarelyScaryMary!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:10 PM (rdVOm) 240
Wasn't the practical aspect of the gift of gold part of the plan to underwrite the family's escape to Egypt because of Herod's desire to kill all the male infants in that area? Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure --- Actually it was all the male children 2 and under. Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 11:10 PM (VCgbV) 241
I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 *** Cedars from Lebanon, perhaps? In that case, Jesus grew up in a really great-smelling house! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:10 PM (wzUl9) 242
Circa 1987, so whichever one that was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere ---- That was Control album Janet. "Miss Jackson if you're nasty." Fun times Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:10 PM (6p0Jv) 243
Bourbon balls? (clutches groin)
Posted by: zombie Louis XVI at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (npFr7) 244
...Let me know if you have any favorites I should include...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba Oh, how thoughtful! ALL cookies are good cookies, thank you! Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (rdVOm) 245
"People are pretending to work, and many are in the early stages of convincing themselves they will "begin eating healthy tomorrow" - which means Monday, or later. The Club does not endorse such ideas of slimming and trimming over the holiday season."
Just finished a three day fast. Never done it before. Feel great. Posted by: Sam Adams at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (X+xvk) 246
England had been Protestant for years before they showed up.
The Puritans were buzz-kills. No dancing, no booze, no colors, no music, no nothing. Anglicans have a "via media" identity, somewhere between Rome and Reformed. They liked the episcopal structure, the liturgy and sacraments but didn't consider Papal Authority and Holy Tradition to be equal to Scripture. (there was also the Justification by Faith thing too) Anglicans, like Rome, liked to torture and persecute non conformists (because that is what Christ would do). England was really getting to suck in general and I think that with news of the New World a Covenant Vision materialized and they felt called to create a "city upon a hill". That vision turned into the United States, so I believe it was of Divine intervention that the Puritans were driven out, leaving the demonic spirits behind in Europe long enough to establish a foothold and foundation for a God fearing society - something impossible to do in Europe then, now and in the future. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (a4flb) 247
Also, I need to find a source for good pfeffernusse cookies. I want them to be coated in powdered sugar, not icing, and not too heavy on the licorice flavor. Trader Joe's used to carry a decent version, but they quit a couple years ago (bastards!).
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (GALGA) 248
You charge them at home via USB, I guess? Is there any risk of them starting a fire in your car when not in use?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9) I think mostly they have their own on-board charger. Many probably have a USB port so you can charge cellphone. Some may have an inverter built in, so you can get 120 volts AC out of them (for a while). Jacks of all trades; depends on how fancy you want. I'm a car guy, and I don't own one. Have several sets of good (heavy copper) jumper cables. And usually one or more spare batteries to jump with. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon I had the "Cat" version...really handy if you have various battery dependent equipment around the place. Lasted about 6 years before it stopped taking a charge. (had 12dc,120ac out, usb, light) Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (TfUTr) 249
Holy shnit.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:12 PM (viF8m) 250
I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (npFr7) You are probably correct. Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:12 PM (KDYdw) 251
206 It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Wasn't the practical aspect of the gift of gold part of the plan to underwrite the family's escape to Egypt because of Herod's desire to kill all the male infants in that area? Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure God's provision. Yes. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:12 PM (DqJmd) Posted by: Soothsayer's Wacky WWII ConspiracyTheories at December 06, 2025 11:13 PM (OsagP) 253
Elf on the Shelf has been stuffed back in its box for ClubONT. The guys were complaining about it being over the urinal...
What happens here, *stays* here! It'll be back in place, on top of the cash register, in the morning. Posted by: JQ --- The world is their urinal, JQ. It is the way of the world. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:13 PM (6p0Jv) Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:13 PM (LVaYG) 255
219 I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper --------- Disco is a *slave driver!* Didja see the mess of tangled lights he threw on the bar for me, the other night? UGH! Good thing I'd already bought some new ones out of Petty Cash and put them up already... Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:0 Did he complain they were white and not colored lights? Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:14 PM (Wmg4n) 256
Anglicans, like Rome, liked to torture and persecute non conformists (because that is what Christ would do).
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (a4flb) --- Catholicism was banned in Protestant countries. It went both ways. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:14 PM (ZOv7s) 257
@166.-It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7 BC.
Christ is a Libra? Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 11:14 PM (5Je/N) 258
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No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd --- They believed that married couple should have sex often. That it was righteous and healthy. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (04Glf) 259
That historic fact I mentioned yesterday is 100% true. The Colonists started the tradition of candles in the windows so's the neighbors didn't think they were Papists! Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (OsagP) 260
I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material?
Given that the area was two thousand years closer to The Flood and subsequent Ice Age that covered Europe and definitely providing a very different climate in Palestine, there is also evidence that the Dead Sea was once connected to the Mediterranean Sea which would have further altered the climate and make far more sense to the Hebrews at the time of the Exodus to enter in to a land "flowing with milk and honey". It isn't the desert wilderness that we see today. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (a4flb) 261
When I was overseas with XH, the base radio station hosted a fundraiser. Pledge & they would play your song.
Somebody (LOL, wasn't me but I know who did it) pledged $100-- a small fortune in 1983-- for them to play Flying Lizards' Money for AN HOUR. Yes, they did it. LMAO. Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (rdVOm) 262
S'pose it's time I headed off to bed. Tomorrow I plan to work out, have breakfast, and do some writing. It's just noodling around with ideas at this point . . .but it's amazing how things can come cranking out when you sit down and type away whatever comes to mind.
Book Thread too! Woo-hoo! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (wzUl9) 263
Guess I'm the only one watching UVA beat themselves in the ACC Championship. On the bright side, if Duke holds on, James Madison U will be in the BCS playoffs!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (DqJmd) 264
Well, I think 100% true. My details might be a bit off on account I caught some senility from being around You People. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (OsagP) 265
Good thing I'd already bought some new ones out of Petty Cash and put them up already...
Posted by: JQ ---------- Did you turn in the receipt? That damned accounting department, they've been on my ass again. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (LVaYG) 266
That vision turned into the United States, so I believe it was of Divine intervention that the Puritans were driven out, leaving the demonic spirits behind in Europe long enough to establish a foothold and foundation for a God fearing society - something impossible to do in Europe then, now and in the future.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (a4flb) So, your opinion is that both Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism is of "demonic spirits?" And yet, from whence came the Bible, the Trinity, and the rest of the trappings of Protestantism? Is it all demonic? Just asking, since you seem to think this is the case. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (6Bc88) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (04Glf) 268
Man, this snifter of brandy is lasting forever. I think I poured out 90 minutes ago. Still a little left, but then to bed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:06 PM (ZOv7s) You are not supposed to fill it to the brim. Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (rbvCR) 269
Well, my lurking time has come to an end.
Good night pals. Many prayers to TiFW🙏 "I’ll sleep when I’m rich… or right now, because I’m tired.” Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (3pxDZ) 270
For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP) 271
They believed that married couple should have sex often.
That it was righteous and healthy. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (04Glf) That is the Catholic position as well. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (6Bc88) Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (QMAsf) 273
And I don't believe for a minute it was always "missionary." Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (OsagP) 274
>>Yup. Protect the ball, Indiana.
I've seen enough to know this kid has the brains and talent to be a good NFL QB. And also the Jets will never draft him. Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (viF8m) 275
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No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd --- They believed that married couple should have sex often. That it was righteous and healthy. Posted by: Braenyard And when they got to the New World, they had many many children. But sure, the Pilgrims hated sex. Whatever. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (DqJmd) Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (GALGA) 277
Did you turn in the receipt? That damned accounting department, they've been on my ass again.
Posted by: scampydog ************ I think that goes back to the dragon you requested.... Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (ITBpd) 278
You are not supposed to fill it to the brim.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (rbvCR) --- If I did that, I would be incapable of typing. Or conscious. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (ZOv7s) 279
Multicolor lights only in the Club!
Posted by: Doof ---------- *Adds to agenda item to the Monday D's meeting* Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (LVaYG) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (04Glf) 281
Did he complain they were white and not colored lights?
Posted by: Piper No, because I put colored lights over the Main Bar and the fireplace area. There are no pictures available of those areas, because photos just can't capture the ambience ya know? Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (rdVOm) 282
The Colonists started the tradition of candles in the windows so's the neighbors didn't think they were Papists!
And here I thought it was a concept borrowed from France to act as street lighting. There is an interesting history of street lighting and candles in the windows were local ordinances due to the darkness and crime that took place without lighting. (circa 1667 Paris and London sometime late 1600s) The wealthy didn't like the hassle of messing with candles through the night and such helped advance the technology of gas lighting. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (a4flb) 283
The climate was probably better in the Roman Optimum in Judaea than it became during the later Roman Empire when everything started to suck (it sucked hardest for the Jews given they, uh, lost some wars).
The issue with vegetation around the eastern Med is that a lot of it was chopped down. They didn't have oil or natural gas electricity then. No vegetation then led to erosion, making difficult for new growth. Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE) 284
Not to mention some of those so-called Puritans were marrying teenagers. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (OsagP) 285
The sugar just burns. We tried it with snowmen.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:01 PM (Wmg4n) ^^Oh no! The dream dies... Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (bOJ2I) 286
For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP) --- I forget I'm dealing with Morons, who think the *only* joy is fornication. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (ZOv7s) 287
For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP) They did their courting in bed. Called it bundling. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (uQesX) 288
When I was overseas with XH, the base radio station hosted a fundraiser. Pledge & they would play your song.
Somebody (LOL, wasn't me but I know who did it) pledged $100-- a small fortune in 1983-- for them to play Flying Lizards' Money for AN HOUR. Yes, they did it. LMAO. Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (rdVOm) Epic! I'd buy that person a beverage or 3. Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (QMAsf) 289
, unless you kept your car in a high state of tune a subzero or below zero engine start was an iffy proposition.
In the late 80s early 90s, the Ford fuel injection was scary. If a GM wouldn't catch and it flooded, if you held the pedal to the floor it would clear. Not with the Fords. You had one shot and then the only way to fix it was plug replacement. Whenever it got really cold the dealer lot would fill up with cars and we had gravy work all day Posted by: Azjaeger at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (3/XaG) 290
Christ is a Libra?
Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 11:14 PM (5Je/N) --- The people who like me seem to be Libras. I don't believe in that astrological crap. And if I'm socially awkward, ok. But I pray Jesus thinks I'm loveable . Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (6p0Jv) 291
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Our Christmas tradition is bourbon balls. We use Maker's Mark. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:02 PM (ZOv7s) Hmmm might have to consider. Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (bOJ2I) 292
I think that goes back to the dragon you requested....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba ------------- Heh. The dragon, it resides on the dresser. Just biding its time. Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:22 PM (LVaYG) 293
We know there's other joys in life. Right, fellows? There's....ah...um...you know, other stuff. Plenty of stuff. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (OsagP) 294
DOOF!!! You saw all those colored lights!!!
Dang it, some areas need a little more illumination. Safety reasons. **Liability** reasons! So I put white lights AS WELL AS colored ones. We're inclusive here at The Club. *sniff* Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (rdVOm) 295
...and the snifter is empty. Good night!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (ZOv7s) Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (6p0Jv) 297
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (ZjL9c)
------- I have the Dewalt one and like it. I charge it 1x/month and have used every feature on it except the alternator-check. Posted by: 496 at December 06, 2025 11:24 PM (7MeQV) 298
Epic! I'd buy that person a beverage or 3.
Posted by: Doof ------- His first name is Alex, active duty sailor at the time. He moonlighted as a punk-rock DJ at the base clubs. Heh. Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:24 PM (rdVOm) 299
And the buckeyes lose. Go Hoosiers.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 06, 2025 11:25 PM (2NHgQ) 300
It's Kirk vs Gorn on MeTV!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:25 PM (pkeXY) 301
Fantastic.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:25 PM (viF8m) 302
How 'bout dem Hoosiers.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (zdLoL) 303
DOOF!!! You saw all those colored lights!!!
Dang it, some areas need a little more illumination. Safety reasons. **Liability** reasons! So I put white lights AS WELL AS colored ones. We're inclusive here at The Club. *sniff* Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (rdVOm) Put the white lights in the ladies room then. Keep that boring stuff where I don't have to see it! Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (QMAsf) 304
Indiana!!!!
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (LVaYG) Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (DqJmd) 306
"Without a stabilizer, petrol can become unreliable in 30-60 days."
Just today I started my log splitter without adding gas, no stabilizer, after about a year, started right up. But it did get non-ethanol fuel. Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (vbXSk) 307
Wasn't raised in the church. My first time relating to the Bible and reality was a Video program done on the Prophets by Fr. Mitch Pachwa. Not to long ago, driving and looking for an interesting radio station I came across a Catholic channel. Thought great, maybe I'll learn something, this could be interesting.
What a disappointment. All the Catholics did, the whole program, was talk about how and why the Protestants were wrong and they were right. What a put off it is to hear. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (04Glf) 308
The issue with vegetation around the eastern Med is that a lot of it was chopped down. They didn't have oil or natural gas electricity then. No vegetation then led to erosion, making difficult for new growth.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE) I watched a fascinating program a few years back about Alexander’s incursion deep into Asia, and it made the surprising claim was that it was made easier because Alexander’s army could ride on ships most of the way. They backed the theory up with evidence that the Caspian Sea was at least a third larger than we've ever seen in modern times, and that many rivers that have been dry for a millennia were deep flowing rivers in Alexander’s time, not to mention dozens of lakes that are now dry. They made a very good case that all of Central Asia was far, far wetter than we see today. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:27 PM (c7Ygk) 309
So, your opinion is that both Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism is of "demonic spirits?" And yet, from whence came the Bible, the Trinity, and the rest of the trappings of Protestantism? Is it all demonic? Just asking, since you seem to think this is the case
European religions are similar in nature to Islam and other socio-culture-religions, where participation in the religion is mandatory otherwise a person is ostracized and is harmed in various ways. So there is far more likely a chance of a person in the cultural religion to not be regenerated and thus live as carnal creatures. This is why a Mafioso can gun down some competitor in the street on the way to Mass and there not be a conflict. Protestant faiths subscribe to the Doctrines of Grace, all of the Elect is regenerated and takes on a spirit made alive. This is not true in State Religions. Though you can have truly saved people like Thomas Aquinas while you have Popes that are burning in Hell. So yes, demons love infiltrating State Religions and boy howdy is there a lot of evidence to the depraved wicked ness that was State Religion sanctioned. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (a4flb) 310
My BFF is from Indiana I'll go with Hoosiers, except I think she went to Purdue
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (6p0Jv) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (04Glf) 312
My BFF is from Indiana I'll go with Hoosiers, except I think she went to Purdue
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (6p0Jv) Ball State Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:29 PM (QMAsf) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:30 PM (04Glf) 314
DOOF!!! You saw all those colored lights!!!
Dang it, some areas need a little more illumination. Safety reasons. **Liability** reasons! So I put white lights AS WELL AS colored ones. We're inclusive here at The Club. *sniff* Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (rdVOm) Tell me you put up more than four light? More than five? THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS! Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 06, 2025 11:30 PM (S/Y4j) 315
"And the buckeyes lose. Go Hoosiers."
First time for Hoosiers to win Big 10 since 1945?, if I heard that right. hard to believe. Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 11:31 PM (vbXSk) 316
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We know there's other joys in life. Right, fellows? There's....ah...um...you know, other stuff. Plenty of stuff. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (OsagP) Like model trains? Posted by: guy with a model train stuck in his rectum at December 06, 2025 11:31 PM (MIvVV) 317
It's Kirk vs Gorn on MeTV!
----- Yes it is. Kirk could have just run circles around him until he weakened. Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 11:31 PM (Cjcf6) 318
They made a very good case that all of Central Asia was far, far wetter than we see today.
Posted by: Tom Servo I believe it for the Aral Sea. Central Asia got very, very good at retaining water for the Silk Road cities. Especially during the Islamic era. All that water going to feed crops wasn't flowing into the big lakes. The Aral, the Urmia, the Van are all drying out now. Probably then too. Caspian on the other hand I dunno. There weren't major cities around that one. Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (gKWVE) 319
DOOF!!! You saw all those colored lights!!!
Dang it, some areas need a little more illumination. Safety reasons. **Liability** reasons! So I put white lights AS WELL AS colored ones. We're inclusive here at The Club. *sniff* Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (rdVOm) Put the white lights in the ladies room then. Keep that boring stuff where I don't have to see it! Posted by: Doof Kids! We all like our Club ONT to be George Bailys Martinis, let's not bicker and turn it into Nicks version.... Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (TfUTr) 320
Ethanol is hydrophilic, it keeps water from collecting in you gas tank.
------- (cough) Hydrophilic refers to its good solubility in water (due to polar nature), while hygroscopic describes its tendency to attract and hold water vapor from the atmosphere, essentially "self-contaminating" by becoming diluted over time if exposed. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (XeU6L) 321
Hate to say it, but I miss MisHum's Zappa videos. Not a fan, but I guess I should seek them out on my own.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 06, 2025 11:34 PM (CHHv1) 322
Like model trains? Posted by: guy with a model train stuck in his rectum Yeah, I guess. And ham radios. Mowing the lawn. Changing the oil in the car. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:34 PM (OsagP) 323
There's....ah...um...you know, other stuff. Plenty of stuff.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (OsagP) Like model trains? Posted by: guy with a model train stuck in his rectum HO, HO, HO. Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (TfUTr) 324
Caspian was once a monster sea, almost an ocean, during the early Holocene. "Great Khvalynian", they call it.
But not during Alexander's time. Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (gKWVE) 325
There's at least 3000 colored lights up, Doof.
I'll unplug the white ones, but they're too mixed up with the colored strings to remove. Besides, they help me at clean-up time. Can you at least grant that? Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm) 326
Kids! We all like our Club ONT to be George Bailys Martinis, let's not bicker and turn it into Nicks version....
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM I had to throw a record I painted at him earlier. He is out of control. Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:36 PM (Wmg4n) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:36 PM (04Glf) 328
There is nothing better than watching a beaten down long shot finally earning their day. And when their best player first gives heartfelt thanks to God it's all good.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (viF8m) 329
For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP) They did their courting in bed. Called it bundling. Posted by: OrangeEnt Engaged meant joined at the hips. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (/lPRQ) 330
Well, we've reached the point in the thread where people are talking about keestering objects, so I'm going to bow out. See you weirdos on the book thread.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (GALGA) 331
Interesting. They now have jump starter packs powered by ultracapacitors. The ultracapacitors can deliver a powerful jolt of current for a few seconds, even in sub-zero temperatures. They also have a small on-board lithium battery to charge the ultracapacitors. Trickle current into the ultracaps for a few minutes, or few hours, then it can come out in a huge surge to crank a dead engine.
Posted by: zombie Louis XVI at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (npFr7) 332
There's at least 3000 colored lights up, Doof.
I'll unplug the white ones, but they're too mixed up with the colored strings to remove. Besides, they help me at clean-up time. Can you at least grant that? Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm) Acceptable option. As long as they are far outnumbered by the colorful ones! Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:38 PM (QMAsf) Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:39 PM (rdVOm) 334
There are no pictures available of those areas, because photos just can't capture the ambience ya know?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:19 I don’t think it’s the ambience so much as it’s a little blinding. 😂 Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:40 PM (OoFl2) 335
This one's for you, Doof!
https://youtu.be/uRo426va26I Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:39 PM (rdVOm) Love it - thanks! Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:42 PM (QMAsf) 336
Cream Soda was decadent. Can't remember who made(s) it
Posted by: javems at December 06, 2025 11:42 PM (8I4hW) 337
Ethanol is hydrophilic, it keeps water from collecting in you gas tank.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 *** With the "winter" dampness here, it might be a good idea if I put 1/4 to 1/2 ethanol gas in my tank along with the E0. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:42 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:42 PM (TfUTr) 339
I had to throw a record I painted at him earlier. He is out of control.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:36 PM (Wmg4n) I probably deserved it Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:43 PM (QMAsf) 340
What a disappointment. All the Catholics did, the whole program, was talk about how and why the Protestants were wrong and they were right. What a put off it is to hear.
Wait until you introduce Eastern Orthodox doctrines. In the general realm of "Christianity" you have the wild west of Evangelicals on one side, and Eastern Orthodox on the other, with Rome closer to the Orthodox and Reformed between Rome and Evangelicals. The Soteriology, doctrines of Justification, Sanctification, Eschatology and what it means to be in the Church are wildly different, with Evangelicals with the Prescient Election views (aka Free Will), Rome and EO looking at variations of synergism; Evangelicals see heaven in purely materialistic terms while EO sees afterlife in terms of Theosis. There will always be discord because the underlying theological templates, the syncretization of cultures and hermeneutics are wildly different. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:44 PM (a4flb) 341
Ethanol is hydrophilic, it keeps water from collecting in you gas tank.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 Till it evaporates....then all that water in suspension...isn't. Which is why I don't use wd40. Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:45 PM (TfUTr) Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:45 PM (rdVOm) 343
The Virginia receiver stepped out of bounds before he caught that pass.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 11:46 PM (Cjcf6) 344
Canada Dry Cream Soda?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:46 PM (04Glf) 345
Woot! Virginia ties it up!! 20-20. Looks like OT is coming up!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:46 PM (DqJmd) 346
343: They ruled he got pushed out by the DB.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:47 PM (DqJmd) 347
Faygo Cream Soda ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 11:47 PM (/lPRQ) 348
Freak-a-Zoid. Good tune,JQ!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:47 PM (6p0Jv) 349
You know who else was out of bounds?
Posted by: Department of Schicklegruber Studies at December 06, 2025 11:48 PM (MIvVV) 350
Just today I started my log splitter without adding gas, no stabilizer, after about a year, started right up. But it did get non-ethanol fuel.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (vbXSk) I had to fire up my ancient Coleman generator last night, because power went out. Took the fuel cap off, and there was some nasty-smelling gas at the bottom of the tank. Filled it brim-full with fresh gas, and it started, briefly, on the second pull of the starting rope ( the kind you wrap around the cup, not a recoil). Third pull, no go. Fourth pull, I gave a little shot of go juice in the carb, and it started, and stayed running, and ran well, until the carb screws rattled loose and it began sucking air. Re-tightened them, it started again one one pull, and ran fine for an hour. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:48 PM (npFr7) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:50 PM (pkeXY) 352
Janet was okay, but Vanity was THE *Nasty Girl*
https://youtu.be/0aQndRqi3jE Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 *** Wasn't Vanity involved with Prince at one point? I've never been a fan of his music (though he was a good songwriter), but his taste in girlfriends was impeccable. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:50 PM (wzUl9) 353
What in the hell was that?!
Posted by: Some Rat -------- Something between disco and motown.. electronic dance? I don't know.. but it sounded good at the time, LOL. Isn't it a bit early for Christmas tunes? Don't want to get burned-out on them YET. Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:51 PM (rdVOm) 354
336 Cream Soda was decadent. Can't remember who made(s) it
Posted by: javems at December 06, 2025 11:42 PM (8I4hW) IBC Cream Soda is the best! Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:52 PM (c7Ygk) 355
Wasn't Vanity involved with Prince at one point? I've never been a fan of his music (though he was a good songwriter), but his taste in girlfriends was impeccable.
Posted by: Wolfus ------- Yes, I believe she was. (RIP, Vanity and Prince) Prince definitely had good taste. Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:53 PM (rdVOm) 356
>> Caspian was once a monster sea, almost an ocean,
Thanks, very interesting and I'm now going to be reading that geological history of that. Fascinating. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 11:53 PM (w6EFb) 357
Big Red
The big red drink that'll tickle you pink Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. ---- I moved to TX 30 years ago. I love this place. Tried a Big Red. Once. I just couldn't. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:54 PM (6p0Jv) 358
It's Kirk vs Gorn on MeTV!
----- Yes it is. Kirk could have just run circles around him until he weakened. Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 *** Maybe. But Kirk had no idea how much stamina a Gorn had, or how much water he needed. The planetoid did not not look temperate and didn't seem to have surface water. He himself could have died of thirst before the Gorn did. I love stories where the hero uses a trick, esp. a fact of nature or science, to defeat his enemy. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:54 PM (wzUl9) 359
Isn't it a bit early for Christmas tunes? Don't want to get burned-out on them YET.
Posted by: JQ Heh, day after Thanksgiving a couple radio station here start playing Christmas music. My radio does not leave those stations till they stop. Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:54 PM (TfUTr) 360
I had to fire up my ancient Coleman generator last night, because power went out. Took the fuel cap off, and there was some nasty-smelling gas at the bottom of the tank.
If it was anyone else I would say that they broke the rule of emergency generators, and that they should be the most reliable engines around and should be run frequently to ensure proper function. There there is you, which could unearth a contraption buried since the early Roman era, in the dark and cold figure out how it works, quickly fashion makeshift parts to replace the original parts that failed, and get it running continuously. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:55 PM (a4flb) 361
Okay, all that robot dancing made me tired. Off to bed! Nightsie noodles!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:58 PM (Wmg4n) Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 11:58 PM (w6EFb) 363
Pop Shop was mentioned way above. Seemed like that place had 30 kinds of pop. You could build your own case.
Posted by: mot at December 06, 2025 11:59 PM (fIPNY) 364
On that log splitter I always cut off the gas supply and let it run dry, every time I use it. That seems helpful.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 11:59 PM (vbXSk) 365
The Jethro Tull Christmas album is my favorite. Hubby hates Christmas. He'll at least kind of listen to this one.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:02 AM (6p0Jv) 366
All that water going to feed crops wasn't flowing into the big lakes. The Aral, the Urmia, the Van are all drying out now. Probably then too.
Caspian on the other hand I dunno. There weren't major cities around that one. Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (gKWVE) One haunting image especially stayed in my mind; a picture of the ruins of what was once large city, now just extensive piles of rubble and brick, on land in the edge of a 200’ high cliff. Nothing green anywhere, just rubble and dust to the horizon in any direction. Yet there was no cliff when the city was built; it was built on the banks of a large deep lake, where the spice road came through, and traders could water their camels and rest in luxury. The past, it was a different place. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:03 AM (c7Ygk) 367
On that log splitter I always cut off the gas supply and let it run dry, every time I use it. That seems helpful.
Posted by: illiniwek I put fuel shut offs on all the yard equipment. Run 'em dry at shut down. It definitely helps. Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2025 12:03 AM (TfUTr) 368
Catholic tradition means we mark the lintel over the front door with chalk with B+M+C and the year. Balthasar, Melchoir, and Caspar, as if they visit for Epiphany and bless the house. It's a cute tradition but a nice reminder.
--- We did this as well, but using Latin, Christus mansionem benedicat, which is translated as “Christ, bless this house (mansion)”. And we would write it like: 20 + C+M+B + 25. This is a nice site that details this custom: https://tinyurl.com/582zmev4 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:04 AM (La8zG) 369
Yet there was no cliff when the city was built; it was built on the banks of a large deep lake, where the spice road came through, and traders could water their camels and rest in luxury. The past, it was a different place. Posted by: Tom Servo Midnight at the Oasis Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:05 AM (pkeXY) 370
If it was anyone else I would say that they broke the rule of emergency generators, and that they should be the most reliable engines around and should be run frequently to ensure proper function.
There there is you, which could unearth a contraption buried since the early Roman era, in the dark and cold figure out how it works, quickly fashion makeshift parts to replace the original parts that failed, and get it running continuously. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:55 PM (a4flb) You are right, I neglected it. Bad Peon, no donut! But it was stored indoors, in a shop with radiant floor heating. So I had a toasty warm place to work on it, and ample light from an LED hand lantern that kicks out like a hundred-watt light bulb. So I got it going inside, nice and warm, then dragged the running generator two yards out onto the apron after raising the bay door. Once it was running steady, I pulled the pole switch, disconnecting my buildings from the utility line, and kicked in the breaker for the welding outlet that the generator was plugged into. And lights came on. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:05 AM (npFr7) 371
>>>There there is you, which could unearth a contraption buried since the early Roman era, in the dark and cold figure out how it works, quickly fashion makeshift parts to replace the original parts that failed, and get it running continuously.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure --- Speaking of: Recently someone posted a clip of a Toyota Land Cruiser that was wrecked then washed out to sea, rolling in the surf was cleaned up and started. Then they really started abusing it. Last scene it was placed atop a building to be demolished, blew up the building, retrieved the Toy and ... yes they got it running. End of clip they set it alight. clip 2 Oxygen bottles (full) in the back of a Ford Explorer? Shot the bottles w/ 50cal tracers setting off the bottles which blew up and went alight along with the Ford. After they put the fire out, yep, it started. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:06 AM (04Glf) 372
I parked & tarped the riding mower and tow-behind sweeper today, while it was sunny and dry outside.
Did the same thing last year, without running it until carb empty.. no fuel cut-off (I need to remedy that).. but started up no problem this Spring. Non-ethanol gasoline. No 'sta-bil' or other additive. Of course, it's only parked for about 3 months. First mow will usually be ~mid-March. Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:10 AM (rdVOm) 373
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And now, some Sydney Sweeney: https://is.gd/klTpQd Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley --------- Favorite Sweeney is her burning down that gotcha' interviewer. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:11 AM (04Glf) 374
You can't keep pouring in gas station gas and not expect your Carb to gum up on things you use infrequently. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 07, 2025 12:13 AM (OsagP) Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:13 AM (viF8m) 376
Movie idea: "Bamboo Love" about Ryan Lizza's surprise (even to him) love-by-proxy affair with such political luminaries as RFK Jr. and Mark Sanford (of Appalachian Trail fame), via Olivia Nuzzi, the ground underneath whom their love was spread like the roots of bamboo grass. It could touch on everything from the nihilistic amorality of secular culture to the same exact thing through a different lens -- such as intimacy, celebrity, politics, and news -- as if that makes it different.
And with a bonus homoerotic subtext to banging the same ho as another dude! Posted by: SciVo at December 07, 2025 12:14 AM (Sy6m/) 377
Fuel stabilizer is a good idea. I probably did put some in the old Coleman last time I ran it.
I plan to service the generator. Replace carb and manifold mounting screws, and Loctite them in. Maybe rig a brace to the bottom of the intake elbow to give carb added support. Change oil. Take end bell off generator, and try to find why one leg of the split 240 is flaky. I suspect a bad solder joint on one of the panel fuses. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:16 AM (npFr7) 378
What a disappointment. All the Catholics did, the whole program, was talk about how and why the Protestants were wrong and they were right. What a put off it is to hear.
--- Sorry to hear this. I think it is always more beneficial to talk about truths than to bash other ideologies. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:16 AM (La8zG) 379
"Did the same thing last year, without running it until carb empty.. no fuel cut-off (I need to remedy that).. but started up no problem this Spring."
I saw "Chickanic" (youtube channel) say it was better to leave a heavy oil mix in the carb for longer term storage. Keeps it oiled or something. idk ... dry has worked over the last 8 years or so for me. Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 12:17 AM (vbXSk) 380
I haven't been around much recently. This club is shaping up quite nicely. Love the lights and the ambiance. 😊
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:18 AM (La8zG) Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv) Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 07, 2025 12:19 AM (OsagP) 383
380 I haven't been around much recently. This club is shaping up quite nicely. Love the lights and the ambiance. 😊
Posted by: AmericanKestrel ---- You should come around more often. And for the season there's been a lot of decorating going on. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:22 AM (04Glf) 384
I will be trying something new over the next few days. My brother butchered a cow and I asked for the fat. I now have 2 five gallon buckets of fat from which I will attempt to rend tallow. Anyone have experience with this? It doesn't look too difficult. If it all goes well and I want an additional challenge, I will attempt to make candles with the tallow as well.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:24 AM (La8zG) 385
Why should Idahoans get special treatment? We have more illegals in Colorado. I don’t drink, so maybe a cash prize or a state tax refund.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at December 07, 2025 12:24 AM (tRYqg) Posted by: Archer at December 07, 2025 12:24 AM (YGRGv) 387
Ford CEO Jim Farley Says Fuel Economy Standards Were 'Totally Out Of Touch' Farley said during an appearance on Fox News. "We are forced to sell EVs and other vehicles...we're not going back to gas guzzlers, we have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford. But now customers get a chance to buy what they want, not what we force on them." Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:25 AM (pkeXY) 388
You should come around more often. And for the season there's been a lot of decorating going on.
--- Thanks Braenyard. How have you been? Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:26 AM (La8zG) 389
It's an incendiary round not a tracer.
Here's the shot, oxygen bottle blowing up the Ford. youtu.be/2tX06z2h3YY?t=793 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:31 AM (04Glf) 390
https://tinyurl.com/4kbmhfbb
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary ------- It's on my playlist now! Thanks! Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:32 AM (rdVOm) 391
With the "winter" dampness here, it might be a good idea if I put 1/4 to 1/2 ethanol gas in my tank along with the E0.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere Our small engine repair guy told us to never use ethanol in small engines. I've read boat motor mfrs void warranties if you use ethanol gas. I don't use it for anything but vehicles. Posted by: MkY at December 07, 2025 12:34 AM (q6tQZ) Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (rdVOm) 393
Heh, day after Thanksgiving a couple radio station here start playing Christmas music. My radio does not leave those stations till they stop. --- I think I've mentioned before that after Thanksgiving I start listening to Handel's Messiah. I came across this song today, featuring a singer from Trinidad. Beautiful voice! And she is pleased with her performance, beautiful smile at the end. https://tinyurl.com/296dvahb Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (La8zG) 394
>>>we're not going back to gas guzzlers, we have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford. But now customers get a chance to buy what they want, not what we force on them."
--- That sounds confused. Customers can buy what they want as long as it's tiny engines or EVs and hybrids. Farley's the same guy that pushed the Lightening isn't he? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (04Glf) 395
Okay, now that I'm looking at the content...
Is it just me, or was anyone else disappointed to realize the "TopPop" and similar shows are fake? They are not live performances. They are like music videos, adding a new visual on top of the separately recorded and mixed production audio. But they don't present themselves that way. What a gyp! Posted by: SciVo at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (Sy6m/) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:36 AM (04Glf) 397
385 Why should Idahoans get special treatment? We have more illegals in Colorado. I don’t drink, so maybe a cash prize or a state tax refund.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at December 07, 2025 12:24 AM (tRYqg) ---- TX here. I don't want a f'kin prize. I want the illegals and cartel gone. I am tired of the trash and the crime. It looks like a Mexican trailer park here. No bueno. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:36 AM (6p0Jv) 398
Why should Idahoans get special treatment? We have more illegals in Colorado. I don’t drink, so maybe a cash prize or a state tax refund.
Posted by: Norrin Radd ----------- It's an Idaho bar what's sponsoring it. That's why. Tell your local Colorado establishments to Get With The Program!!! Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:36 AM (rdVOm) 399
1. CEO Farley never said a peep before. Craven. 2. Ford is "out of touch" with the stupid trucks they build. Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 07, 2025 12:41 AM (+J1QL) 400
https://youtu.be/LsUm_5jHhJ4
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:43 AM (rdVOm) 401
I am heading in for the night, but the seemingly rash decision to move to Idaho has been the best rash decision we have ever made. Even better than the rash decision we made to move to Colorado 30 years ago, when CO was still a great state.
So, I guess the same thing could happen here, but, well... I trust in the Lord. Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 07, 2025 12:43 AM (0aYVJ) Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 07, 2025 12:45 AM (+J1QL) Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:48 AM (La8zG) 404
Good night pug, Can't go wrong, putting trust in God!
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:50 AM (La8zG) 405
https://youtu.be/GOzi-gD7-ts
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:50 AM (rdVOm) 406
Killing a Toyota Part 1 | Top Gear | BBC
Sep 28, 2010 Jeremy Clarkson puts Toyota's claim that their Hilux pick-up is virtually indestructible to the ultimate test. Top Gear series 3, youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:52 AM (04Glf) 407
Does the World have enough Lithium to support the ever-growing demand?
Ha. But will lithium enable logical thinking? Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:53 AM (La8zG) 408
Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US. I hope they are proven wrong.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:54 AM (04Glf) 409
JQ, the Merle Haggard tune is appreciated...
Waylon will have a word. .https://tinyurl.com/yeyr6nhm Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:55 AM (6p0Jv) 410
Ford CEO Jim Farley Says Fuel Economy Standards Were 'Totally Out Of Touch'
Farley said during an appearance on Fox News. "We are forced to sell EVs and other vehicles...we're not going back to gas guzzlers, we have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford. But now customers get a chance to buy what they want, not what we force on them." ---- Where was his courage when it counted? He should be fired for admitting he folded when he should have made a stand. When I was a kid, CEOs were portrayed as macho money lovers. That's actually the type you want in charge of your profit-seeking enterprise. This guy is just one of dozens of top-50 CEOs that weren't concerned enough about their company's profitability. Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2025 12:57 AM (Cjcf6) 411
Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US. What about affordability? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:58 AM (pkeXY) 412
If I was in the market for a truck, I would want that Toyota.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:01 AM (La8zG) 413
Happy St. Nicholas Day! The "Feast of Saint Nicholas" is celebrated on December 6 each year (although some celebrate on the December 5 eve). The American Santa Claus, as well as the British Father Christmas, derive from Saint Nicholas.
Done tole ya'll people Hope all dem kids is happy Posted by: Miklos is Magyar for Nicholas at December 07, 2025 01:04 AM (N7hqt) 414
Hey Horde, I started reading comments about an hour ago but I got sidetracked. JQ, the club is looking quite festive, you did a great job!!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 07, 2025 01:04 AM (0nHVk) 415
45 Reckon I gotta pay a visit to Old State Saloon. It's not far down the road. And I think I would like the clientele. But. Gotta have my glowie radar set.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy Why can't all States be like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon...hell, Red States in general! Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr) They all sound so wonderful - but right now in deep deep blue Southern California it's 55 F outside. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 01:05 AM (QGaXH) 416
Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US. I hope they are proven wrong.
Posted by: Braenyard maybe, with some changes to the National Firearms Act Posted by: Miklos will pay extra the twin Ma Deuce model at December 07, 2025 01:06 AM (N7hqt) 417
Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US.
What about affordability? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:58 AM (pkeXY) 412 If I was in the market for a truck, I would want that Toyota. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:01 AM (La8zG) I want six hard points in the bed as standard, not an option. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 01:07 AM (/lPRQ) 418
Hi, Miklos!
Hey, the big ClubONT Christmas Party is *next* Saturday night... Will you be making those 3-layer Jello Shots for us? I think I've got all the supplies-- check the storage room & let me know if you need anything else, ok? Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:07 AM (rdVOm) 419
When is Festivus again?
Posted by: Archer at December 07, 2025 01:09 AM (YGRGv) 420
Hope Krampus did not get any of the naughty Morons. At least their families get a lump of coal.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 01:10 AM (6p0Jv) 421
Hi, Debby! Thanks!
*slides Chivas/rocks down the bar* Doof chewed me out for having some white lights, but phooey-- told him it helps me see during cleanup-- there's plenty of colored lights anyhow... *shrug* Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:10 AM (rdVOm) 422
Does the World have enough Lithium to support the ever-growing demand?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing "Lithium is used to treat mania that is part of bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness). It is also used on a daily basis to reduce the frequency and severity of manic episodes. Manic-depressive patients experience severe mood changes, ranging from an excited or manic state (eg, unusual anger or irritability or a false sense of well-being) to depression or sadness." Posted by: Blue haired pierced communists demand MOAR LITHIUM at December 07, 2025 01:10 AM (N7hqt) 423
*slides Chivas/rocks down the bar*
*intercepts* *replaces with Old Crow* *let's see if she notices the improvement* Posted by: Guy at bar stool 6 at December 07, 2025 01:12 AM (N7hqt) 424
I used to make speculaas cookies for St. Nicholas day. So yummy. I don't have the recipe with me, but maybe I will just look one up and make them tomorrow. It is a soft dough that is rolled into a log, refrigerated, sliced thin and then baked.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:14 AM (La8zG) 425
Heh. Col. Klink is on tonight's episode of Lost in Space on MeTV. He's a galactic cop. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 01:14 AM (w6EFb) Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 07, 2025 01:14 AM (3ZUWJ) 427
I think I've got all the supplies-- check the storage room & let me know if you need anything else, ok?
Posted by: JQ https://tinyurl.com/yhc4bp2z Posted by: Miklos has the inflatable pool and Coomercail quantity Jello ready for the ladies at December 07, 2025 01:16 AM (N7hqt) 428
Posted by: Guy at bar stool 6
------- Hey, now... don't EVER mess with a lady's drink! *side eye* Never seen you here before, friend. You got references? *hands Debby a fresh Chivas/rocks* Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:16 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 07, 2025 01:17 AM (0nHVk) 430
I used to make speculaas cookies for St. Nicholas day. So yummy. I don't have the recipe with me, but maybe I will just look one up and make them tomorrow. It is a soft dough that is rolled into a log, refrigerated, sliced thin and then baked.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel ------- If you're willing to share, please post in the Food Thread tomorrow! Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:18 AM (rdVOm) 431
I want six hard points in the bed as standard, not an option. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher ----- Scrolling from the bottom up it looked as if you were going a bit kinky. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 01:18 AM (04Glf) 432
Worked hard outside today. Good night, Horde.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 01:21 AM (6p0Jv) 433
tinyurl.com/yhc4bp2z
Posted by: Miklos --------- I picked up a whole case! Oh, they're by the door, not with the other plastic cups... my bad. Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:22 AM (rdVOm) 434
Hey, now... don't EVER mess with a lady's drink!
*side eye* Never seen you here before, friend. You got references? *hands Debby a fresh Chivas/rocks* Posted by: JQ Hey look, Miss - we serve hard drinks in here for ladies who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere". Is that clear, or do I have to slip you a Bacardi 151 with Kahlua and cream for a convincer? Posted by: Surly bartender Miklos, who was supposed to have the night off at December 07, 2025 01:22 AM (N7hqt) 435
Night, BSM. Sweet dreams!
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm) 436
Posted by: Surly bartender Miklos, who was supposed to have the night off
--------- Well well well... wth you doin' *sitting at the bar* and intercepting a drink I served? Get yer butt back here & I'll gladly clock out for the duration. Yeah, I'd *love* to have that 151 with k&c right about now, thanks! Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:29 AM (rdVOm) 438
If you're willing to share, please post in the Food Thread tomorrow!
--- I don't know if I will be around tomorrow, so I asked grok and got the following recipe. It looks similar to the one I have used in the past. https://tinyurl.com/yjc9396m Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:31 AM (La8zG) 439
One difference being that I didn't roll out the dough and used cookie cutters, but rather, rolled dough into a log, chill, and then slice thin, to bake. Easier. 😊
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:33 AM (La8zG) 440
Yeah, I'd *love* to have that 151 with k&c right about now, thanks!
Posted by: JQ I worked at place in new Orleans that was even open during Prohibition. Nick's Night Train Bar Mixology was both an art and a condition of employment. I created a few, and that was one. Alas, Nick's 1918-katrina Posted by: Nostalgically less-Surly bartender Miklos at December 07, 2025 01:35 AM (N7hqt) 441
Another difference is mixing the sliced almonds right into the dough. Again, easier.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:37 AM (La8zG) 442
Hey Kestrel, it is good to see you, I hope that all is well with you.
JQ and Miklos behind the bar together next Saturday night, I think the Christmas party is off to a good start. What can I do or bring to assist in the celebration? Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 07, 2025 01:38 AM (0nHVk) Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: Rental FamilyIf he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser would be alongside Tom Hanks in terms of being the modern equivalent of a Golden Age actor like Jimmy Stewart or Henry Fonda. The difference between the two is that I will go see a movie just because Brendan Fraser is in it, which is not at all true of Hanks. The excesses of The Whale aside—and its director, Darren Aronofsky, whom Ken Russell calls from the grave to say "Settle down"—Fraser was terrific. A well-earned Oscar. This is probably a double-edged sword in that we probably permit a character played by Fraser to get away with things he really shouldn't. In fact, despite the very strong marks for Rental Family, all I could see as the movie started rolling, was all the many, many ways this movie could go bad. Gaijin on the train.Fraser plays Phillip Vandarploeg, an American who moved to Japan seven years prior after becoming a sensation as the star of a toothpaste commercial, has fallen on hard times when he's called by his agent to play—well, I'm not going to say what, exactly, because while this movie doesn't have really big twists or surprises, the ones it does have shouldn't be spoiled. Despite not doing very well at the gig (because he's completely unprepared) he's approached by Shinji, the owner of a company called Rental Family. They need a token American. Philip is obviously used to this, although I can't help but note that he's not a token at all. You see, the business that Shinji has is that he supplies people to act out parts in other people's lives for various reasons. One of their most popular jobs is euphemistically called "Apology Services", where a woman (Aiko, played by Mari Yamamoto) pretends to be a man's mistress and apologizes to his wife for having an affair. This is the important thing about this job: He's lying to someone, and he has considerable issue doing so. The first job he has seems relatively harmless. And he has a kind of nice one where he plays video games and acts friendly toward a shut-in. But the first big job he gets is pretending be a girl's father. The girl's mother is trying to get her into an elite private school, and the school isn't interested in single mothers. The mom doesn't want to force the child to have to lie, so instead has Philip pretend to be her father to her. Philip's inability to FAKE attachment is very American, and of course why we like him. This gig, which happens immediately after Philip accepts the job, made me a bit nervous about what might come next. It's nice to see small businesses thriving in Japan. Even if they're fundamentally very weird.Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 07:31 PM (asXVI) Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 07:32 PM (asXVI) 3
I loved The Mummy, more that I expected to.
The chemistry between him and Rachel Weiss was amazing. (And Rachel Weiss was so hot…wait til you see her in a snug, tight plaid pencil skirt… Anyways, this was the one and only time I remember seeing Brendan Frasier in a movie. Posted by: Cow Demon at December 06, 2025 07:35 PM (4786I) 4
Damn autocorrect…has it never heard of Rachel Weisz? Really?
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 06, 2025 07:35 PM (4786I) 5
They're talking sequel to that franchise. I would be down for it, if ... nervous.
Check out Fraser in "Blast from the Past". Hell, he's good in "Encino Man," which is just a goofy, dumb teen comedy. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 07:37 PM (asXVI) 6
I like Brendan Fraser more than I will ever like Hanks.
Forrest Gump was the only thing Hanks was remarkable for in his appearance and he just seemed a natural. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 06, 2025 07:38 PM (w6S0H) 7
Yeah with fraser it comes almost as innocent
Sort of a variati9n on lost in translation Hos integral rachel was to rhe plot wss when they replaced here with maria bello for the third film Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:40 PM (bXbFr) 8
Adam Sandler's Uncut Gems is the train wreck you see coming movie I found hard to watch though it was written, acted and directed fantastically
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (KDPiq) 9
That's a good summary of "Uncut Gems".
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 07:42 PM (asXVI) 10
I, too, like Brendan just because he seems like a nice guy. He has an open face. Which probably limits the kind of rolls he can take.
And I, too, have no idea what the GenPub likes, because I'm a bit of a weirdo. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:44 PM (kpS4V) 11
I used to sort of liked Tom Hanks at the beginning of his career but started not to care for his acting or able to suspend belief seeing him as a leading man.
Though I think Nothing in Common with Jackie Gleason is an underrated Hanks film. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:45 PM (KDPiq) 12
With hanks after a point, its like they were forcing us to like him
Fraser is more like chris pratt to which chsrm comes natural Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr) 13
"If he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser..."
What does this mean? Posted by: Lyford at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (gb+vr) 14
Loved Fraser in Bedazzled
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (SRRAx) 15
Fraser was great in the TV sitcom , Scrubs for the 2 or 3 episodes he did playing the brother of Dr Cox's wife.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:47 PM (KDPiq) 16
8 Adam Sandler's Uncut Gems is the train wreck you see coming movie I found hard to watch though it was written, acted and directed fantastically
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (KDPiq) ---- I had the exact same reaction. You could not derail this bulletin train of bad choices. I tried to see it first in a theater but the volume was cranked to Monsters of Rock levels and I had to flee, thinking I hated the film. I later saw it at home and liked -- well, admired -- the story. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:47 PM (kpS4V) 17
I like movie but I do not know movies.
PS 2.17.26 there will be a release of a remastered Star Wars. Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:48 PM (gbOdA) 18
I thot 50 First Dates was great.
It has about 50 layers. Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:50 PM (gbOdA) 19
There are some evil people in hollywood
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:50 PM (bXbFr) 20
And apparently there's gonna be a third Mummy movie and Brendan and Rachel Weisz are penciled in.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:50 PM (kpS4V) 21
Apollo 13 and Road to Perdition were good Hanks movies that could have been just as good or better (Perdition) with a different actor.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:51 PM (KDPiq) 22
Promethius
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 07:52 PM (Kt19C) 23
Over on Kickstarter, there's a campaign for a documentary about "The Final Sacrifice," an old, indy-produced Canadian movie. The film is best known for being featured on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000, and, in my humble opinion, it made for the single best episode in the 13 seasons of MST3K! It had the best of both worlds; there was a competent script and memorable characters, so the story of movie is enjoyable in-and-of itself, but the lack of budget and just the oddness of some of the characters made the movie eminently mock-able!
Anyways, the reward tiers for the documentary are a little bit steep, but....considering how often I've watched that movie, I don't have too much hesitation throwing a bit of cash their way. Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 07:52 PM (Lhaco) 24
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:52 PM (Ia/+0) 25
He played kind of an antihero in that dc version of the avengers
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:53 PM (bXbFr) 26
Alien earth (retired thr prize)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:53 PM (bXbFr) 27
I honestly haven't seen much of Brenden Frasier, but The Mummy was better than it had any right to be, and he's a star just based on that performance!
It's nice to see him have a career resurgence, even if I'm not terribly interested in the new movies he's making. Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (Lhaco) 28
ROWZDOWER!!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (kpS4V) 29
Loved Fraser in Bedazzled
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (SRRAx) Yes. Wife and I love that movie. And the two Mummy movies. As someone mentioned, he and Rachel Weisz had crazy chemistry. A rare thing in cinema. Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:55 PM (0aYVJ) 30
Speaking of Adam Sandler , one of his other serious movies that I think is really good and would recommend is Funny People. I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (KDPiq) 31
The film is best known for being featured on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000, and, in my humble opinion, it made for the single best episode in the 13 seasons of MST3K!
--- It's great, but it's no "Space Mutiny" or "Alien From L.A.". I do love all the hockey hair and Canuck jokes. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V) 32
Yeah that was a good one with liz hurley
Some what less plausible than the original with dudley moore Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:57 PM (bXbFr) 33
So many many years ago my best friend had to work and his sister (1 year and 1 grade older) wanted to go see
a movie she had won tickets to. So low and behold I am at his house with duct tape hemming up he Gloria Vanderbuilt jeans (she had bought that day) to go see Bee Gees St Peppers. North Park Mall Dallas Tx must have been summer of 78. Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:57 PM (gbOdA) 34
Castle Guy at 27
I'll second that. If memory serves, Fraser starred with Michael Caine in a remake of The Quiet American. Never saw either version, but heard good things about both -- will get to them Real Soon Now. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (q3u5l) 35
Both Vaughn and Sandler have more range than just comedy. It's just that few of the projects they are on bother to use that range.
Posted by: ravenshrike at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (16udA) 36
Speaking of Adam Sandler , one of his other serious movies that I think is really good and would recommend is Funny People. I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (KDPiq) Me too. Very well done. Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (0aYVJ) 37
there will be a release of a remastered Star Wars.
Posted by: r hennigantx With the true story of Solo shooting first! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (z/7Ah) 38
I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (KDPiq) Me too. Very well done. Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (0aYVJ) I am taking a lot of rhino penis please dont call me that in public Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (gbOdA) 39
Yes rogen should be taken in small doses like idocaine
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (bXbFr) 40
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:57 PM (gbOdA)
I liked The Bee Gees a lot and don't hate the Beatles but that movie was really bad Earth Wind and Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life was the only saving grace. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (KDPiq) 41
With the true story of Solo shooting first!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (z/7Ah) original Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (gbOdA) Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (DJUFe) 43
I liked The Bee Gees a lot and don't hate the Beatles but that movie was really bad Earth Wind and Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life was the only saving grace.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (KDPiq) I think the fifth beatle played that one too. Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:01 PM (gbOdA) 44
Phrasing (or perhaps not)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (bXbFr) 45
Evenin', all,
I'm back from the Christmas (Weihnachten) fair at the local German-American Center. No National Socialist night, but lots of outdoor booths with crafts -- mostly for women and children -- and some food and mulled wine. Miss Linda got a pic with Krampus, her favorite Christmas icon. The good: The city has paved the road in front of the center, and the live band, w/ Xmas music of course, was not ear-shatteringly loud. The bad: the prices! $8 for a cup of mulled wine, $5 for a big pretzel, and one booth wanted $15 for a loaf of Stollen bread. And they wanted $5 to park in their lot. (I dodged the last two.) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (z/7Ah) 47
Is this going to be the original version of Star Wars with no CGI Jabba the Hutt?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (kpS4V) 48
Both Vaughn and Sandler have more range than just comedy. It's just that few of the projects they are on bother to use that range.
Posted by: ravenshrike at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (16udA) Vince Vaughn was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (KDPiq) 49
13 "If he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser..."
What does this mean? Posted by: Lyford at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (gb+vr) He was blacklisted after accusing the head of the HFPA of sexual assault after the guy groped him at a luncheon. Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 06, 2025 08:03 PM (gUs21) 50
Wolfus, I've sent out Krampus cards for Christmas,
My favorite has a cute Krampus glowering and saying "You. In the bag". Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:04 PM (kpS4V) 51
from what I read pure star wars
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:05 PM (gbOdA) 52
Been a while since I watched it, but I don't recall Vaughn being bad in Dragged Across Concrete either. And yes, he was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99.
I didn't even think Vaughn was all that bad in the van Sant remake of Psycho. Not up to Perkins maybe, but who would have been? Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 08:05 PM (q3u5l) 53
Tom Hanks is kinda hated, yes?
He's no James Stewart. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 *** No, nor is he a Jack Lemmon. But he has taken the *kind* of roles that JL would have during his career, going from light comedy to drama and back again. I can imagine a 1960 Jack doing a film like Cast Away, for instance, or You've Got Mail, in his case w/ Shirley Maclaine. And Hanks in a film like The Apartment -- though I'm not suggesting he would be as good as Jack was. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:06 PM (wzUl9) 54
Vince Vaughn was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (KDPiq) ---- Also in "Dragged Across Concrete", which is great but a tough film to watch, like "Bone Tomahawk". Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:07 PM (kpS4V) 55
If he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser would be alongside Tom Hanks
--- "George of the Jungle" was bad, but evil? Come on now. Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 06, 2025 08:07 PM (kDHiw) 56
Vince Vaughn was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 *** He always surprises me -- in a good way -- when I see him in a film. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:08 PM (wzUl9) 57
I didn't even think Vaughn was all that bad in the van Sant remake of Psycho. Not up to Perkins maybe, but who would have been?
---- The trouble was, Vaughn seemed quietly psychotic from the get-go. Not like that nice young man Anthony Perkins! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:09 PM (kpS4V) 58
Speaking of Adam Sandler , one of his other serious movies that I think is really good and would recommend is Funny People. I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 *** I didn't go to see Just Go With It for him, or Jen Aniston either, but for Nicole Kidman. But both Adam and Jen did well and had nice chemistry. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:09 PM (wzUl9) 59
And Hanks in a film like The Apartment -- though I'm not suggesting he would be as good as Jack was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:06 PM (wzUl9) Agree . I think Hanks would have been a good casting choice if they had done a remake. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:09 PM (KDPiq) 60
Another example of on-screen chemistry is Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore in The Wedding Singer.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 08:10 PM (0aYVJ) 61
>>11 I think Nothing in Common with Jackie Gleason is an underrated Hanks film.
It was a path Hanks could have taken to become a serious actor. He didn't. That said, in spite of its myriad appalling flaws, Joe vs the Volcano is a wonderful flick. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:11 PM (NcvvS) 62
Forrest Gump was the only thing Hanks was remarkable for in his appearance and he just seemed a natural.
---- I actually didn't think Hanks was that good in Forrest Gump; Gary Sinise was really good in that one. I did think Hanks was great in Apollo 13 though. Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (kDHiw) 63
Speaking of mummy movies, The Mummy's Tomb is on Svengoolie.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (vFG9F) 64
I first noticed Hanks, like a lot of people did, when he was in the TV sitcom Bosom Buddies. I'd thought it would be a one-joke show, but it was written quite well and was often very funny.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (wzUl9) 65
Yeah that one rang thrue and still holds up
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr) 66
Another example of on-screen chemistry is Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore in The Wedding Singer.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 08:10 PM (0aYVJ) You reminded me of one of my favorite guilty pleasures. Actually I think it's really good and don't feel guilty. Blended. And as you say the chemistry between Sandler and Barrymore is great. Speaking of Drew Barrymore, if you're looking for a RomCom to watch, I would highly recommend Going the Distance. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:14 PM (KDPiq) 67
Maybe because of the ensemble
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:15 PM (bXbFr) 68
I never got over Tom Hanks in a dress.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F) 69
Maybe fraser might be able to do what cruise did with top gun maverick
His mummy film wasnt god awful like hatbours hellboy but it wasnt good Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:17 PM (bXbFr) 70
Flash Gordon is the greatest movie ever
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 08:17 PM (Jj1OR) 71
I liked Tom Hanks in 'Road to Perdition'. A very un-Tom Hanks movie. It's not the best gangster flick ever, but it's good.
Kind of like Kevin Costner in 'Mr. Brooks'. He plays a serial killer. He actually does creepy normal very well. Again, not the best serial killer movie but a good one. (Citizen X and Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer are the best ones) Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (DqJmd) 72
68 I never got over Tom Hanks in a dress.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F) I don't need you to worry for me 'cause I'm alright I don't want you to tell me it's time to come home I don't care what you say anymore, this is my life Go ahead with your own life, leave me alone Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (gbOdA) 73
I never got over Tom Hanks in a dress.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 *** His character and Scolari's only wore the female getups when entering or leaving the residential hotel for women they had been forced to live in -- everything else in NYC, even in 1980, was too expensive, was the setup. They didn't dress as The Girls at work, for instance. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (wzUl9) 74
70: the soundtrack was great anyway.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (DqJmd) 75
Hanks did a good job playing Mr Roberts in A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (KDPiq) 76
What was the film with Sandler and Tea Leoni? Was that Blended?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:19 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 06, 2025 08:20 PM (f0sNM) 78
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It's great, but it's no "Space Mutiny" or "Alien From L.A.". I do love all the hockey hair and Canuck jokes. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V) "Alien From LA"? There's an episode that doesn't get talked about much...I do enjoy it (how can I not, with Kathy Ireland as the star?!) but it's not on my list of favorites. Ironically, I wanted the miner guy (Gus?) to be a bit more over-the-top and a bit more featured...Basically, I thought the movie/episode would have been better had he been more like Rowsdower! As for "Space Mutiny," I have nothing bad to say about Space Mutiny! It is easily on my Top-10 list, but I just personally love "The Final Sacrifice" more. Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 08:21 PM (Lhaco) 79
Without a doubt
The camp factor was dialed to eleven Its a whole de laurentis held the studio afloat for so long Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:21 PM (bXbFr) 80
I like Bad Monkey tv series, a lot, and I think it got a 2nd season. But if you don't like Vince Vaughn, you will hate Bad Monkey, because it's Vince Vaugn being Vince Vaughn the whole time -- he never lets up. (btw, I still hate fucking monkeys, and this show does not change that fact) Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:21 PM (DJUFe) 81
With the king kong remake and fjnally dune
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:21 PM (bXbFr) 82
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (DqJmd)
I thought Road to Perdition could have been much better with someone other than Hanks. I liked it anyway though I could not see Hanks as a tough guy gangster. Mr Brooks was really really good and Costner nailed the role. Demi Moore is who almost ruined it. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq) 83
What was the film with Sandler and Tea Leoni? Was that Blended?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:19 PM (wzUl Blended was Drew Barrymore Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:23 PM (KDPiq) 84
NOBODY looks back at ANY Tom Hanks role and thinks fondly or warmly at that character. He is not, nor will he ever be a "George Bailey." Not even Forest Gump, which is not a great movie. It's okay. I was original, I'll say that. Forest is not some lovable character -- he's a pathetic dolt in which the audience feels pity, mostly. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:24 PM (DJUFe) 85
"His character and Scolari's only wore the female getups when entering or leaving the residential hotel for women they had been forced to live in --"
Oh yeah sure they were totally not gay. Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:24 PM (vFG9F) 86
77 Neil Breen has a new one
https://dire-duplicity.com/ Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 06, 2025 08:20 PM (f0sNM) Well, well, Merry Christmas to everyone who has a YouTube channel devoted to watching/reviewing B-movies! Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 08:24 PM (Lhaco) 87
OT, For Shame Ohio State. Street punk tackle on Indiana QB.
Game should be forfeited. A real coach would take them home. Lousy crooked cheating SOB's. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 06, 2025 08:25 PM (zdLoL) 88
For several work-and-recreational reasons, never saw Bosom Buddies. The movies Hanks did during the mid-to-late 80's were pretty good. He was not ever going to be James Stewart, but would like to come up with a comparable actor who did light/romantic comedy and historical fiction, with some drama included in the mix. He was never going to be Lord Olivier, but he was capable within his realm.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:26 PM (NcvvS) 89
"His character and Scolari's only wore the female getups when entering or leaving the residential hotel for women they had been forced to live in --"
* Oh yeah sure they were totally not gay. Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 *** Not sure about Scolari's character, but Hanks's was besotted with the tall Marilyn-like blonde. (The actress later married Dan Aykroyd.) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:26 PM (wzUl9) 90
Speaking of "great" actors... that goofy idiot Gene Simmons is receiving a Kennedy Center award from Our Favorite President, tonight. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:27 PM (DJUFe) 91
NOBODY looks back at ANY Tom Hanks role and thinks fondly or warmly at that character. He is not, nor will he ever be a "George Bailey."
Not even Forest Gump, which is not a great movie. It's okay. I was original, I'll say that. Forest is not some lovable character -- he's a pathetic dolt in which the audience feels pity, mostly. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 *** What about the film, can't think of the title, where he plays a young boy cast into adult form? There's a scene or several at F.A.O. Schwarz. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:28 PM (wzUl9) 92
livestream of Kennedy Center honors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPgHy7hpr1I rewind 10 minutes for Skillvester Skallone Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:28 PM (DJUFe) 93
What about the film, can't think of the title, where he plays a young boy cast into adult form? There's a scene or several at F.A.O. Schwarz. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius BIG? Yeah, it was okay. Don't know if it stands up today. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:29 PM (DJUFe) 94
And Wolfus said at @53 what my thoughts were - only more cogently. *doffs cap* sir.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:31 PM (NcvvS) 95
President keeps saying "tape" instead of film. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:31 PM (DJUFe) 96
What about the film, can't think of the title, where he plays a young boy cast into adult form? There's a scene or several at F.A.O. Schwarz.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius * BIG? Yeah, it was okay. Don't know if it stands up today. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 *** That's it. For some reason I was thinking the title was Restless! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:32 PM (wzUl9) 97
The Green Mile, Saving Private Ryan, and Road to Perdition were also good Hanks movies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:32 PM (L/fGl) 98
that goofy idiot Gene Simmons is receiving a Kennedy Center award from Our Favorite President, tonight.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:27 PM (DJUFe) ---- LOL I momentarily conflated him with spastic imp Richard Simmons. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:33 PM (kpS4V) 99
I can't watch more than the first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan anymore, Hanks doesn't help it
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:34 PM (Ia/+0) 100
The Green Mile, Saving Private Ryan, and Road to Perdition were also good Hanks movies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 *** I think I've seen the first (and read King's novel), but not the others. Hanks has had good luck -- his costar Peter Scolari was as talented when they were on Bosom Buddies, but he hasn't had the big-screen fortune that Hanks has. And since he became a big name, TH has picked good material on the whole. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:35 PM (wzUl9) 101
NOBODY looks back at ANY Tom Hanks role and thinks fondly or warmly at that character. He is not, nor will he ever be a "George Bailey."
Not even Forest Gump, which is not a great movie. It's okay. I was original, I'll say that. Forest is not some lovable character -- he's a pathetic dolt in which the audience feels pity, mostly. Posted by: Soothsayer --- Tom Hanks peaked during Bosom Buddies. I hated Forrest Gump. He was a producer of Band of Brothers which I really like and a worthwhile program. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:35 PM (6p0Jv) 102
Never saw Big, but saw trailers for it when his 'colleague' wanted to sleep with him, Hanks wanted the top bunk. :-)
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:37 PM (NcvvS) 103
Lo these many years ago, I saw Hanks in the screwball comedy Bachelor Party and he was good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:38 PM (L/fGl) 104
The soccer ball was more charismatic than Hanks in whatever movie that was.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:38 PM (6p0Jv) 105
The Green Mile was a bit too long. It was OK.
Saving Private Ryan, after the first 20-30 minutes, was meh. Road to Perdition was pretty good. Hanks was good in a non-Hanks like role. Paul Newman was great. I believe it was his final role before he died. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:39 PM (DqJmd) 106
I never knew mummies were such good climbers.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:41 PM (vFG9F) 107
Bachelor Party as screwball? Kinda/sorta farce, okay...
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:42 PM (NcvvS) 108
I was trying to thinknof movies to defend Hanks and am having a tough time.
His roles are all right, but he kind of floats through them. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s) 109
I haven't seen The Whale yet but have always thought Brendan Fraser was a great actor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 08:43 PM (SwYQF) 110
Hanks is our equivalent of Jack Lemmon, as Harrison Ford was our Bogart. Neither is the equal of the original, but they handled the same *kinds* of roles.
Chris Pratt could be another young Ford -- but Hollywood has lost its way in the PC Forest and doesn't know how to make movies like Raiders any more. Otherwise CP would have donned the fedora, jacket, gun, and whip years ago for a couple of period-piece Indiana Jones movies. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:43 PM (wzUl9) 111
Back to Brendan Fraser... Always liked him...until he got weird in the last few years. Really Low-T guy. The Mummy is one of favorite movies, which means I re-watch it. Rewatchable movies means they are great. I never had the urge to rewatch Forest Gump, Saving Ryan's Privates, or Lost. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:43 PM (DJUFe) 112
The scene [in Bachelor Party] where the nude Tracy (Monique Gabrielle) seduces Rick was cut out of mainstream TV broadcasts. Gabrielle said they also shot a TV version where she wears a negligee with one strap lowered, but it was also cut out of broadcasts because it showed too much cleavage.
- I don't understand the phrase "too much cleavage." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:44 PM (L/fGl) 113
The soccer ball was more charismatic than Hanks in whatever movie that was.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:38 PM (6p0Jv) Castaway. I saw a ewetub blurb that was trying to intimate that whatshername was already cheating on him before the plane crashed but passed as the movie always annoyed me. Guys plane crashes, everyone in his life moves on. The End. Thanks movie. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:44 PM (zZu0s) 114
Very obscure movie trivia, but I think 'Vandarploeg' is the alias Jeremy Iron's character Simon Gruber uses when he visits the Federal Reserve in Die Hard with a Vengeance.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (CwhoI) 115
Anybody seeing "Kill Bill Parts 1 & 2"?
There's a couple movies I want to see but I'm lazy and it's cold outside. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V) 116
I even recently downloaded Blast From The Past because I like it -- but that dummy Alicia Silverstone said some dumb things recently and ruined it for me. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (DJUFe) 117
I'm trying to recall any Brendan Fraser movies that I've seen that are not 'The Mummy' +sequels. I'm drawing a blank.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (DqJmd) 118
I'm currently watching the series"Rabbit Fall" on Amazon Prime. Think of a low budget version of "Twin Peaks" made in Canada, for Canadians. It was made in 2007, but follows the Kathleen Kennedy model of "put a chick in it and make her lame and gay!"
Well, at the end of Season 1, she isn't gay, yet. I will continue to watch, keeping score of the plot twists that are telegraphed. I'm betting there will be a "Luke and Leia are what!?!?" moment coming up soon. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (znQHQ) 119
I loved The Mummy, more that I expected to.
The chemistry between him and Rachel Weiss was amazing. (And Rachel Weiss was so hot…wait til you see her in a snug, tight plaid pencil skirt… Anyways, this was the one and only time I remember seeing Brendan Frasier in a movie. Posted by: Cow Demon at December 06, 2025 07:35 PM (4786I) ------------ The first time we saw him was at a drive-in theater -- in Santa Cruz with my teenaged step-daughter and her friend -- with Pauly Shore in Encino Man. I had low expectations, but it was pretty funny ... and I loved The Mummy and its sequel. I forget what "evil" like him being blackballed for some reason happened to his career (I do remember some controversy) -- and will have to search for the details. I'll be back ... Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (My0zW) 120
I don't understand the phrase "too much cleavage."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 *** Not in that order, anyway. "Cleavage too?" "Much" would work fine. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:46 PM (wzUl9) 121
Harrison Ford is NOT our Bogart. He'll, I think Bruce Willis is closer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:46 PM (zZu0s) 122
I remember Tawny Kitaen was in Bachelor Party also. Later to dance across the hoods of cars in Whitesnake videos. And she is an illustration of Rule No. 1 for the Morons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:46 PM (6p0Jv) 123
I can't watch more than the first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan anymore, Hanks doesn't help it
Posted by: Skip Watched it again recently .. they did more stupid shit than I remembered. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (/lPRQ) 124
When I think of Brendan Fraser, my mind goes to Blast from the Past (watched so often) and Bedazzled (re-watched recently), and I see him now and think, whatever happened to the poor guy? Of course, those movies were a quarter-century ago. How tempus fugits! Only other thing I ever saw him in was Doom Patrol, where he really didn't look good. (Robot suit.)
Posted by: mindful webworker - we all were so much older then, I'm younger than that now at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (yqA/D) 125
I enjoyed “Money Pit” , but mainly because it felt like a documentary of my attempt at completely redoing an old house.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (c7Ygk) 126
[1 of 2 -- per Brave "AI":]
Brendan Fraser's career experienced a significant decline in the late 2000s and early 2010s, following a period of major success in the 1990s and early 2000s, particularly with the The Mummy franchise. His absence from major Hollywood films was attributed to a combination of personal and health-related challenges. Fraser has publicly discussed suffering from severe injuries sustained during stunt work, particularly while filming The Mummy series, which led to multiple surgeries, including a laminectomy and a partial knee replacement, and a vocal cord repair. He also revealed he was in and out of hospitals for nearly seven years due to these injuries. Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (My0zW) 127
I'm trying to recall any Brendan Fraser movies that I've seen that are not 'The Mummy' +sequels. I'm drawing a blank.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 *** Wasn't there one where he plays a young man who grew up with his parents in a well-equipped 1960s bomb shelter, and when he emerges he's gobsmacked by the 1980s? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (wzUl9) 128
Very obscure movie trivia, but I think 'Vandarploeg' is the alias Jeremy Iron's character Simon Gruber uses when he visits the Federal Reserve in Die Hard with a Vengeance.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (CwhoI) Vanderflug? Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:48 PM (zZu0s) 129
People in Palmer and Wasilla are posting about things that are blowing into their yards, like, "If this is your shed, please wait until the wind stops and then come and get it."
Hurricane force winds in the valley this weekend, along with serious ice from last week. We are staying in, thanks. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:48 PM (6Bc88) 130
[2 of 2 -- per Brave "AI":]
In addition to physical health issues, Fraser faced profound personal losses, including the death of his mother from cancer in 2016, and the emotional toll of a difficult divorce from his wife Afton Smith. He has also spoken about being sexually assaulted in 2003 by Philip Berk, then president of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (HFPA), an incident he claims led to a period of depression and a belief that he was blacklisted from Hollywood. Fraser stated that after making the allegation public in a 2018 GQ interview, his career phone calls stopped, and he questioned whether he had been ostracized. Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 06, 2025 08:48 PM (My0zW) 131
Incidentally, I recently downloaded a 1992 B-movie titled Nemesis. Set in 2027. I don't remember it, but it has all the greats, such as Tim Thomerson, Brion James, and boobies. IMDB description: Alex, a burned out LA cyborg cop, is forced by commissioner Farnsworth to find his former cyborg partner and lover Jared who's about to deliver sensitive data to cyborg terrorists who wish to wage war against humans. Is he being played? Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:49 PM (DJUFe) 132
Oh, wait. The Burbs. I love that movie. Carrie Fisher and Corey... Haim?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:49 PM (zZu0s) 133
Wolfus, Hanks has never had Lemmon's manic vibe. Hanks has no equivalent the 50's-70's that would resonate. Hanks could never have been a believable Ensign Pulver in Mr Roberts. If he'd been in the film, he'd have been one of the (probably featured) EMs (Dolan, maybe?).
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:49 PM (NcvvS) 134
Tom Hanks plays himself in every movie. So boring. He was not even funny in Bachelor Party. I do not understand his appeal at all.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 08:50 PM (93/YK) 135
Wasn't there one where he plays a young man who grew up with his parents in a well-equipped 1960s bomb shelter, and when he emerges he's gobsmacked by the 1980s?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius Yes. 'Blast from the Past'. I haven't seen it. Heard it's ok though. (and I'm not 100% on the name of the movie but I know which one you're referring too) Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:50 PM (DqJmd) 136
Harrison Ford is NOT our Bogart. He'll, I think Bruce Willis is closer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 *** Maybe so. But I can picture Bogart as an Indy Jones-like character in a 1943 thriller set in the Andes or the mountains of Mexico. And Ford did play Bogart's role in the remake of Sabrina, right? A very different interpretation, from what I gather -- I've never seen either film all the way through -- but the same basic role. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:51 PM (wzUl9) 137
I think what "blacklisted" Fraser is he's emotional, and nobody wanted to work with him. He simply wasn't worth the trouble. It's obvious, isn't it? Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:52 PM (DJUFe) 138
I like both Sabrina's but both... have issues.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:53 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:53 PM (Ia/+0) 140
I hesitate to admit what movies I saw this week. Sometimes I just impulsively watch something that shows up on the YooToob sidebar recommendations instead of sifting through the library to see if I'd rather watch something else.
Well, I'll admit to watching Star Trek: First Contact. Had its moments. Wanted to see Zefram Cochran at the end say, That'll do, pig. 🙄 Posted by: mindful webworker - make it sew at December 06, 2025 08:54 PM (yqA/D) 141
I think what "blacklisted" Fraser is he's emotional, and nobody wanted to work with him. He simply wasn't worth the trouble. It's obvious, isn't it?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:52 PM (DJUFe) His career did seem to suddenly stop after being in many movies at the same time he claims he got assaulted. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:54 PM (zZu0s) 142
Bogie was Bogie whatever role. Harrison Ford was Indiana Jones or Han Solo.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:54 PM (6p0Jv) 143
Therefore the Mummy movies, then Blast from the Past, also that George of the jungle thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:55 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:55 PM (DJUFe) 145
Honestly Ford seemed to forget how to play Solo after Empire. Or just didnt care to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:56 PM (zZu0s) 146
And I can believe the claims of gaybsexual assault. Fuck, Terry Crews got assaulted.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (zZu0s) 147
Big is worth a watch mainly for Robert Loggia. I remember nothing else about the flick.
And if I had to pick a Hanks picture to revisit, it'd be The Money Pit. Not so much for Hanks himself, but the never-ending disaster of trying to fix up that wreck of a house. Joe Mantegna doesn't get a ton of screen time, but is quite funny. Alexander Godunov (sp?) too. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (q3u5l) 148
So this mummy walks dragging one foot but he climbed that trellis to the second floor no problem. Excellent upper body strength I suppose.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F) 149
Speaking of screwballs . . .
Sleepy Joe FORGETS the name of his former Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. BIDEN: "When I took office I promised to have an administration that looked like America... not just for the community, but my Press Secretary 'KAREEM.'" Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (L/fGl) Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 08:58 PM (/lPRQ) 151
Great Escape is on UToob at the moment. Holds up fairly well. Think there's a "making of" video also on that platform that is interesting. McQueen and Garner's characters didn't exist, but producers reasonably figured US audiences would be much more interested in based-on-real events flick with Americans inserted into it. But there was a fair amount of dedication to accuracy in certain things, especially by the standards of the time.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 08:59 PM (U/Byj) 152
Bogie was Bogie whatever role. Harrison Ford was Indiana Jones or Han Solo.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 *** His Capt. Queeg was very different from his Sam Spade, or Roy Earle, or Fred Dobbs. But you're right in that I could not see Ford playing any of those roles, except maybe Spade. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:00 PM (wzUl9) 153
Why in the world is Creepy Joe speaking in public at all?
Posted by: I gotta ask at December 06, 2025 09:00 PM (XQo4F) 154
Weird that the two actors that have made the most movies I like got their big break playing Stoners and not considered great actors.
Keanu Reeves and Matthew McConnaughey Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:01 PM (KDPiq) 155
Actually went to the theater last week to see Sarah's Oil, filmed right here in Land of the Red Man. Did a fair job of showing Oklahoma in the early oil boom wars. Really liked the young actress who played Sarah.
Local theater will be showing Scrooged on the 16th. We first saw it in first-run theater, large audience. The end where Murray breaks the fourth wall and addresses the theater audience works much better with a theater audience. Posted by: mindful webworker - lives in the Cherokee Nation at December 06, 2025 09:01 PM (yqA/D) 156
Calling it a night, all, but consider: is there an actor from the last 30 years who could do Rick Blaine in Casablanca and Charlie Allnut in African Queen? Maybe Bruce Willis in the 90s. Maybe.
Thanks, moviegique, for the thread! Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:01 PM (NcvvS) 157
My sister rented Saving Private Ryan when it came out on VHS so my father could see it. When it was over, I'm told that his comment was, "Now let me tell you everything they got wrong in that one." He was WWII 82nd Airborne and knew whereof he spoke.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:02 PM (q3u5l) 158
Tom Hanks was pretty good in "Last Man Standing"
He was perfect for his character Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 *** He was in that? The lead was Bruce Willis, wearing a fedora a shade too big for him. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:02 PM (wzUl9) 159
I enjoyed Fraser during early career. I'd probably like him again, but he's just not making movies that interest me so far. He seems weird. But I can't tell if he's weird because of whatever happened, or he overreacted to whatever happened because he's weird. I've never really understood what happened either.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2025 09:03 PM (MIvVV) 160
Bogie was Bogie whatever role
--- Bogie had the characteristics of a genuine movie star which put limits on what he could do as an actor. But it surely wasn't lack of capability. He's radically different in "Caine", "African Queen", "Sabrina", etc. He has a very fey turn in "Falcon" that makes you cringe but not from being unconvincing. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:03 PM (asXVI) 161
I do like Bogart movies
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:04 PM (Ia/+0) 162
Bogart always played the bad guy early in his career. But his acting is so good you forget he's not the best looking or toughest looking or stereotypical lady's man actor.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:04 PM (KDPiq) 163
Calling it a night, all, but consider: is there an actor from the last 30 years who could do Rick Blaine in Casablanca and Charlie Allnut in African Queen? Maybe Bruce Willis in the 90s. Maybe.
Thanks, moviegique, for the thread! Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 *** Excellent point, Nazdar! Willis could certainly do both. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:04 PM (wzUl9) 164
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He was in that? The lead was Bruce Willis, wearing a fedora a shade too big for him. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere Just joking. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 09:05 PM (/lPRQ) 165
Key Largo was also one of my favorite Bogart roles.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:05 PM (zZu0s) 166
Nazdar,
Elliot Gould had a good turn with "The Long Goodbye" but mostly by NOT being Bogie. Besides being the '70s. I mention it only because the thought of Gould in that role really turned me off so much that I didn't see that movie until the 2010s. In the past 30 years? Kiefer Sutherland, maybe. Or Tom Hardy. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:05 PM (asXVI) 167
Relative got bumped up to first class on a flight to Hawaii many years ago. Movie being shown (days of one screen, not little ones in every seat) was Money Pit.
Fairly young infant was in tow, young enough that mom kept him on her lap. When she needed to hit the facilities, she got up, and was hesitating to wake the sleeping husband. Another passenger - Tom Hanks - quickly says to her he'd be glad to watch the kid while she's gone. "Oh, I'm in this movie". There was another well known actor, woman, forget her name, she sauntered over and they both entertained the kid while mom was away. Apparently Hanks was a very nice guy, and unsurprisingly was good at being goofy to entertain a toddler. So there's that. Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:06 PM (U/Byj) 168
His Capt. Queeg was very different from his Sam Spade, or Roy Earle, or Fred Dobbs. But you're right in that I could not see Ford playing any of those roles, except maybe Spade.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:00 PM (wzUl9) ----- Thank you for putting it better than I did. Bogie is a favorite. A classic. Perhaps it's because he is of my great grandparents generation. He was in so many classic movies. Some stinkers, but some truly greats. Hans Solo and Indiana Jones are of my childhood. Those are the only two roles I think of when you say Harrison Ford. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:07 PM (6p0Jv) 169
Key Largo was also one of my favorite Bogart roles.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:05 PM (zZu0s) In my top ten films. I'm not a Bogart fan boy but he happens to have 4 of the movies in my top ten . The other three are Casablanca, Sahara and Caine Mutiny. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:08 PM (KDPiq) 170
Bogie had the characteristics of a genuine movie star which put limits on what he could do as an actor. But it surely wasn't lack of capability. He's radically different in "Caine", "African Queen", "Sabrina", etc. He has a very fey turn in "Falcon" that makes you cringe but not from being unconvincing.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 *** His Queeg is the definitive version of the character. Lloyd Nolan (look him up) played Queeg in the Broadway play The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial w/ Henry Fonda as the defense attorney, and I'll bet Nolan was great. But Bogart is the man. As for HB's Sam Spade, he makes the line from Gutman (Sydney Greenstreet) believable when the latter says that one never knows what Spade will do or say next. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:08 PM (wzUl9) 171
>>145 Honestly Ford seemed to forget how to play Solo after Empire. Or just didnt care to.
Have to throw this in, and thank you, Wolfus (looking forward to you joining us in Kentuckiana!): Ford was told to make Han Solo a buffoon. Only way to explain him in Return of the Jedi. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:08 PM (NcvvS) 172
Bogart's last movie, Harder They Fall is very good.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:09 PM (KDPiq) 173
148 So this mummy walks dragging one foot but he climbed that trellis to the second floor no problem. Excellent upper body strength I suppose.
--- Well, sure, he had to make up for the bum leg. I think Fraser's claims of harassment are legit to the extent that the guy doing it said as much. Or, wait, no, he said, "Sure I grabbed his taint. It's a joke!" I suspect his wife was the bigger problem, tho'. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:09 PM (asXVI) 174
The African Queen is great, even with the insufferable Katharine Hepburn, who is actually great in the movie.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:09 PM (6p0Jv) 175
Think Sahara is also on UToob now, or was as of last week.
Desert films shot just east of here in Borrego, I believe. Ironically, not that far from the actual desert training grounds Patton used for armor work. Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:10 PM (U/Byj) 176
What does this mean?
Posted by: Lyford at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (gb+vr) He was blacklisted after accusing the head of the HFPA of sexual assault after the guy groped him at a luncheon. Posted by: Jeff Weimer Thanks very much Lyford for asking that and Jeff Weimer for answering! Was very much wondering too. Posted by: jocon307 at December 06, 2025 09:11 PM (EuROc) 177
I got issues with the Money Pit.
Touchstone was so sleazy. It was almost like Eisner said, "We're gonna make non-family movies," and that was the equivalent of saying "As sleazy as they can possibly be." And I love "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House". Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:11 PM (asXVI) 178
More controversy.
Special Needs Community Demands People Stop Comparing Them To Tim Walz - From the Bee. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:11 PM (L/fGl) 179
Great story Rhomboid!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 09:12 PM (kpS4V) 180
Mazes and Monsters.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:12 PM (Q+gd/) 181
The Harder They Fall is a terrific Bogart picture -- nice double feature if you like grim is to catch that one back to back with Requiem for a Heavyweight with Quinn, Gleason, & Rooney.
In a Lonely Place ain't too dusty either. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:12 PM (q3u5l) 182
In the past 30 years? Kiefer Sutherland, maybe. Or Tom Hardy.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 *** Sutherland impressed me in his first big role, that of the juvenile delinquent leader in Stand By Me. The moment I saw him on screen, too, I knew whose son he had to be. The same way you know whose son Miguel Ferrer is, and who sired both Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:13 PM (wzUl9) 183
156 Calling it a night, all, but consider: is there an actor from the last 30 years who could do Rick Blaine in Casablanca and Charlie Allnut in African Queen? Maybe Bruce Willis in the 90s. Maybe.
--- Bruce Willis is a good call. He could do the world weary Blaine, and did (demand was high)! But he had the comedy chops, and the right quirkiness to be Allnut, too, I think. It wouldn't have been the same as Bogie, of course, but it would've been watchable. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:13 PM (asXVI) 184
>>Elliot Gould had a good turn with "The Long Goodbye" but mostly by NOT being Bogie. Besides being the '70s. I mention it only because the thought of Gould in that role really turned me off so much that I didn't see that movie until the 2010s.
In the past 30 years? Kiefer Sutherland, maybe. Or Tom Hardy. moviegique, not up on Tom Hardy's work, so can't respond. Kiefer Sutherland...I'd have to think about; seen a little of his work, and could only say, maybe. AND THIS IS HOW I STAY ON THE MOVIE THREADS! Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:14 PM (NcvvS) 185
@180 I forgot that early 80s made for TV movie with Tom Hanks and Chris Makepeace from Meatballs . Don't play Dungeons and Dragons, kids!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:14 PM (6p0Jv) 186
For me, Kiefer Sutherland's best role will always be in Lost Boys .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:15 PM (KDPiq) 187
And who can forget Man with One Red Shoe?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:15 PM (zZu0s) 188
The Burbs is a fun Tom Hanks film
Posted by: kelly at December 06, 2025 09:16 PM (bn0S5) 189
Local theater will be showing Scrooged on the 16th. We first saw it in first-run theater, large audience. The end where Murray breaks the fourth wall and addresses the theater audience works much better with a theater audience.
Posted by: mindful webworker - lives in the Cherokee Nation at December 06, 2025 *** You know, I've never seen that. I have high hopes for it, as Murray seems to pick good material over some script that will just make him look good. Out of my Ten Movies I Would Change Nothing About, he's in no less than three. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:16 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:16 PM (zZu0s) 191
Kiefer Sutherland
- There's talk of rebooting 24. I don't know whether Kiefer will be back or not. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:17 PM (L/fGl) 192
Splash! Yes, good little movie -- or so I recall. Haven't seen it since the '80s.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:17 PM (wzUl9) 193
And I, too, have no idea what the GenPub likes, because I'm a bit of a weirdo.
--- Eris, I'm more comfortable making recommendations for you than I am GenPub. And it's not even close. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:18 PM (asXVI) 194
For me, Kiefer Sutherland's best role will always be in Lost Boys .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:15 PM (KDPiq) ---- The Lost Boys? Off to my bunk. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:18 PM (6p0Jv) 195
Way past bedtime
Have a good night everyone Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:19 PM (Ia/+0) 196
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:16 PM (wzUl9)
Speaking of Murray which automatically makes you speak of Groundhog Day, anyone else see and like Palm Springs with Andy Samberg. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:19 PM (KDPiq) 197
Haven't seen mention of Hanks in Splash. Been thinking it's been a long enough while we could watch that again. Hanks was okay as dumb and beleaguered, and the other comic cast members, like Candy and Levy, kept it interesting. And, of courses, yummy Daryl Hannah.
I can't imagine how bad Splash, Too must be, with neither Hanks nor Hannah. (Re TJM's latest, he should follow up with sequels we really didn't need.) Posted by: mindful webworker - Disenchanted at December 06, 2025 09:21 PM (yqA/D) 198
I saw Sahara, the Bogart original, some years ago. I liked especially that his character is not an officer, but a sergeant. It fitted his look much better.
(Yes, I know that Bogart grew up in an upper-class family and often played light comedy playboy roles in his early stage work, and in the Universal flick he did with Bette Davis, Bad Sister, around 1931. But he always seemed more working class in his roles.) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:21 PM (wzUl9) 199
War movies will never satisfy history geeks (like me), but there is a spectrum. Band of Brothers, The Pacific, Saving Private Ryan, a few others, made serious efforts to get the big things right, and also did amazing jobs of creating the cinematic experience as close to the real thing as possible.
Then you have things like the last atrocity of the Pacific War, Midway (the recent one). A very compact, understandable true story that - if told straight, would be more compelling and dramatic and tension-filled than almost any fictional script. But, no. The sadly mediocre writers and producers cannot comprehend anything apart from dumbed-down dreck following the mediocre formula they usually follow. Ironically, the best written and acted role in the movie was Nimitz, played by the obnoxious and dumb Woody Harrelson. He nailed it, based on everything known about CinCPac. Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:22 PM (U/Byj) 200
More screwball comedy . . .
WATCH: Virginia window-washers dangle from broken line before being rescued https://is.gd/dIvstH Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:22 PM (L/fGl) 201
Hi! Back again! Can't quit all y'all, it seems.
ROSE SAYER IS THE ROLE KATHARINE HEPBURN WAS BORN TO PLAY. Dorothy Parker said of one of her roles that she ran all the gamut of emotions from A to B; here, she covered a few more and found a couple of others. And all that said, The Philadelphia Story remains my number-one favourite movie. Ok, trying for a final goodnight; my day has hit the 18-hour mark. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:24 PM (NcvvS) 202
I wrote, "Haven't seen mention of Hanks in Splash," and when I catch new comments, it's mentioned twice. Of course.
Posted by: mindful webworker - splish splash I was takin' a bath at December 06, 2025 09:25 PM (yqA/D) 203
(Yes, I know that Bogart grew up in an upper-class family and often played light comedy playboy roles in his early stage work, and in the Universal flick he did with Bette Davis, Bad Sister, around 1931.
*** By the way, Davis does not play the title role in Bad Sister. She herself hated the film and her performance in it . . . and I lost interest in the movie half an hour after I started it on YooToob. It being her first movie, and the fact that Universal didn't realize what they had in Bogart and Davis and let their contracts lapse, are the historical reasons to know about the flick. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:25 PM (wzUl9) 204
Is this going to be the original version of Star Wars with no CGI Jabba the Hutt?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM Wasn't Jabba a fat Irish guy originally? Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 09:25 PM (jc0TO) 205
Woody Harrelson and Matt McConaughey were great in that first season of True Detective. I appreciated them both after that one. Well done TV.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:26 PM (6p0Jv) Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 09:26 PM (jc0TO) 207
. . . Dorothy Parker said of one of her roles that she ran all the gamut of emotions from A to B; here, she covered a few more and found a couple of others. . . .
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 *** Dottie was never slow to toss out a meow about a fellow woman. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:27 PM (wzUl9) 208
There's a terrific documentary from this year called "Bogart: Life Comes In Flashes".
I don't think he was upper class, though. https://moviegique.com/2024/12/november-movie-roundup/ Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:28 PM (asXVI) 209
Yeah, it is supposedly no Jabba, han shoots first, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:28 PM (zZu0s) 210
Sam Rockwell makes any movie better.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (KDPiq) 211
Harpo Marx was my favorite member of the Algonquin Round Table. Honk honk!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (6p0Jv) 212
209 Yeah, it is supposedly no Jabba, han shoots first, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:28 PM (zZu0s) I liked that Han shot first. Why be at a disadvantage when someone wants to kill you? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh) 213
This revue is of 'normal' people. I mean, there appears to be no blood, no one is disembodied or disemboweled. Haven't finished the revue but it seems to be a warm movie that the, you know, average 'normal' person would want to see.
Way to go, moviegique. I think I'm going to try this one. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (04Glf) 214
Sam Rockwell makes any movie better.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (KDPiq) He's good. 'Mmmm, Guy.' 'Something really bad happened here.' 'I'm just a glorified extra, Fred.' Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (zZu0s) 215
211 Harpo Marx was my favorite member of the Algonquin Round Table. Honk honk!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (6p0Jv) His economic theories were much better than his cousin twice removed Karl... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh) 216
Best true WWII story with a movie angle has little to do with heroics. During the Battle of the Bulge - and after Skorzeny's irregulars in US uniforms had induced panic and led to heightened security procedures - David Niven came to a US checkpoint. He worked for Monty's HQ organization.
Sentry asked him who won the latest World Series. Typical screening question when trying to ferret out imposters. His reply, according to him but quite plausible - "I haven't the foggiest, but I was in Bachelor Mother with Ginger Rogers." Sentry had seen the movie, let him pass. Hard to beat that one. Niven was in some real and interesting s**t during the war, never talked about it. Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (U/Byj) 217
198 I saw Sahara, the Bogart original, some years ago. I liked especially that his character is not an officer, but a sergeant. It fitted his look much better.”
I like that movie a lot, I think it’s one of the better WW2 movies, and I’m always surprised it’s not more well known. It’s also notable for featuring one of the only film appearances of the M3 Lee tank. It was the main American battle tank at the outset of the war, and the army was shocked when German panzers ripped it apart like it was made out of aluminum foil. By 1943 they had all been taken out of service. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 09:31 PM (c7Ygk) 218
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (zZu0s)
He was great in Seven Psychopaths. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:31 PM (KDPiq) 219
I liked that Han shot first. Why be at a disadvantage when someone wants to kill you?
--- I remember being shocked. It's kind of a classic anti-save-the-cat moment. That Bogart doc was from last year, doy. As for Kate, I grew up with her being in these New England patrician matraiarchal (is that an oxymoron) roles that she kind of got squeezed into after "African Queen". She had a very good range in the '30s and '40s, though. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (asXVI) 220
I don't think he was upper class, though.
https://moviegique.com/2024/12/november-movie-roundup/ Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 *** I believe his mother was an artist or illustrator, which might have meant she was well-paid, or that her husband was high-salaried in *his* job. She, I understood, illustrated the baby on the Gerber baby food labels, leading to the rumor that the model was little Humphrey himself. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (wzUl9) 221
His economic theories were much better than his cousin twice removed Karl...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh) --- And his book 'Harpo Speaks' is much more entertaining. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (6p0Jv) 222
I liked that Han shot first. Why be at a disadvantage when someone wants to kill you?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh) It said a lot about his character at that point. He murders Greedo because he knew it was him or Greedo. And he shoots him before he knows what is happening. That's characterization. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (zZu0s) 223
Ironically, the best written and acted role in the movie was Nimitz, played by the obnoxious and dumb Woody Harrelson. He nailed it, based on everything known about CinCPac.
The really odd thing about Woody Harrelson, and I still have troubled wrapping my brain around this, is that he is a great actor and very versatile. Has done pretty much every kind of role and is always very good at it. I forget I'm watching dumb and obnoxious Woody Harrelson. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 09:33 PM (DqJmd) 224
I didn't even think Vaughn was all that bad in the van Sant remake of Psycho. Not up to Perkins maybe, but who would have been?
--- JSG, I read the book not too long ago. By Bloch's description, the perfect guy to play Norman? Philip Seymour Hoffman Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:33 PM (asXVI) 225
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (zZu0s)
Best part of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Indy shot first there too. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:34 PM (KDPiq) 226
I believe his mother was an artist or illustrator, which might have meant she was well-paid, or that her husband was high-salaried in *his* job. She, I understood, illustrated the baby on the Gerber baby food labels, leading to the rumor that the model was little Humphrey himself.
--- That rings a bell. The documentary covers this but it's been a year so mostly what I recall is Bogie & Bacall's relationship and that they started the Rat Pack. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:34 PM (asXVI) 227
Vaughn was in the delightfully bizarre The Cell.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:35 PM (Q+gd/) 228
Yeah, it is supposedly no Jabba, han shoots first, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 *** My memory from 1977 was that Jabba the Hutt is *mentioned* by the alien (Greedo?) -- we don't actually see him until Return -- and that we are certainly given the impression that Solo shoots first. As he should. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:35 PM (wzUl9) 229
Staggering off to do a few things before the ONT.
Okay, I'll confess. We watched My Super Ex-Girlfriend this week. Again. The shark still is about the best part. And the two super girls fighting was actually some of the best superduper action. Posted by: mindful webworker - don't marsh my mallow at December 06, 2025 09:37 PM (yqA/D) 230
"Alien From LA"? There's an episode that doesn't get talked about much...I do enjoy it (how can I not, with Kathy Ireland as the star?!) but it's not on my list of favorites.
--- I have the Vinegar Syndrome DVD. It's classic bad low-budget movie in that it's a mess of slightly off decisions (or very off, like having Ireland speak like that) and limitations of budget and marketing. There was a pseudo-sequel! Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:37 PM (asXVI) 231
I believe his mother was an artist or illustrator, which might have meant she was well-paid, or that her husband was high-salaried in *his* job. She, I understood, illustrated the baby on the Gerber baby food labels, leading to the rumor that the model was little Humphrey himself.
--- That rings a bell. The documentary covers this but it's been a year so mostly what I recall is Bogie & Bacall's relationship and that they started the Rat Pack. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 *** I believe Humphrey was college-educated, not sure where, and that a lot of his early stage roles, he said, consisted of him strolling on stage in whites and with a racket, saying, "Anyone for tennis?" That changed when he was cast as gangster Duke Mantee in The Petrified Forest. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:37 PM (wzUl9) 232
Moviegique --
Been some time since I read Bloch's novel, but you're right re that casting. Hoffman would have been much closer to Bloch's description of Norman Bates than either Perkins or Vaughn. Bloch did two sequels to Psycho himself, and they had nothing to do with the sequel movies. Out of print, I think, but should be fairly easy to dig up used or on interlibrary loan. There was a hardcover omnibus years ago with all 3 of Bloch's Psycho novels, but it contained a disastrous printing error which omitted the last page of the first novel. Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:38 PM (q3u5l) 233
227 Vaughn was in the delightfully bizarre The Cell.
--- Tarsem's breakout movie. (Tarsem Singh, but at the time just Tarsem.) He perfected this visually arresting story-telling with "The Fall," which is all done sans CGI. And since then? Oy. https://moviegique.com/2008/06/pride-before-the-fall/ Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:39 PM (asXVI) 234
@207 Yeah, still here - comment got eaten, I'll try again
Wolfus, you know this: Katharine Hepburn was not admired for her acting chops in her early days. Saw Sahara several times in my youth (WGN was very fond of old flicks that they could run late at night) and loved it; there was a remake in the '90's(?) with Jim Belushi. Jim Belushi is not Humphrey Bogart. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:39 PM (NcvvS) 235
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:35 PM (wzUl9)
Yeah, in the original, no Jabba. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:39 PM (zZu0s) 236
Been some time since I read Bloch's novel, but you're right re that casting. Hoffman would have been much closer to Bloch's description of Norman Bates than either Perkins or Vaughn.
--- And Hoffman did this kind of role really well. He could look really harmless and then turn on a dime. Alas. --- There was a hardcover omnibus years ago with all 3 of Bloch's Psycho novels, but it contained a disastrous printing error which omitted the last page of the first novel. --- Whoops! Whoopsie! Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:40 PM (asXVI) 237
64 I first noticed Hanks, like a lot of people did, when he was in the TV sitcom Bosom Buddies. I'd thought it would be a one-joke show, but it was written quite well and was often very funny.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (wzUl9) I first noticed Tom Hanks in Taxi. He played young Jim Ignatowski's roommate at Harvard. Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 09:41 PM (0CU3H) 238
So, the thing about Gump.
It's a classic Spielberg/Zemeckis joint. Much like "Who Censored Roger Rabbit," it has little to do with the source material. And in the book? Gump is not mentally handicapped: He's a dumb-ass. The thing is a farce. Gump's best friend is an orangutan named Sue who rides on the shuttle with him. Steve & Rob realized: Make him genuinely (pseudo) mentally handicapped, and we're in Oscar territory. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:42 PM (asXVI) 239
Wolfus, you know this: Katharine Hepburn was not admired for her acting chops in her early days.
Saw Sahara several times in my youth (WGN was very fond of old flicks that they could run late at night) and loved it; there was a remake in the '90's(?) with Jim Belushi. Jim Belushi is not Humphrey Bogart. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 *** Given the right script, Belushi can convince. I'm not sure the tank sergeant would be one of those roles. As for Kate, she had several movie flops in the Thirties and got labeled "Box Office Poison." So she went back to the stage. The story goes that she had a hit in The Philadelphia Story on Broadway. She *bought the rights,* and Hollywood had to negotiate with her -- and set her as the star -- to do the film. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:45 PM (wzUl9) 240
Not sure about Scolari's character, but Hanks's was besotted with the tall Marilyn-like blonde. (The actress later married Dan Aykroyd.)
--- Donna Dixon. Possibly THE main attraction of "Bosom Buddies". Although Scolari and Hanks had good chemistry and Hanks' manic comedy reactions to Dixon were pretty good. Alas, she and Aykroyd separated after 40 years. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:45 PM (asXVI) 241
I believe Humphrey was college-educated, not sure where, and that a lot of his early stage roles, he said, consisted of him strolling on stage in whites and with a racket, saying, "Anyone for tennis?" That changed when he was cast as gangster Duke Mantee in The Petrified Forest.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:37 PM (wzUl9) He went to prestigious private schools but not college. He enlisted in the Navy in 1918 because he got kicked out of school. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (KDPiq) 242
his costar Peter Scolari was as talented when they were on Bosom Buddies, but he hasn't had the big-screen fortune that Hanks has.
--- Dying in 2021 hasn't helped his career, either. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (asXVI) 243
Thinking of all the good flicks I need to revisit after too many years, or the ones I haven't seen yet -- and what I'm probably going to do this weekend is catch Twilight again. The one with Paul Newman, Susan Sarandon, Gene Hackman, and James Garner (who steals, effortlessly, every scene he's in). Worth a watch if you've never seen it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (q3u5l) 244
Yeah, in the original, no Jabba. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 *** So the re-release has Jabba visible -- in that saloon scene, or was it somewhere else? How did they fit that creature into an average room? He needed a *lot* of space. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (wzUl9) 245
I like Brendan Fraser a lot and I wish his movie well.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 06, 2025 09:48 PM (xcxpd) 246
[Bogart] went to prestigious private schools but not college. He enlisted in the Navy in 1918 because he got kicked out of school.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 *** I did not know that. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:49 PM (wzUl9) 247
Saw Bloch on the old Tom Snyder show, Tomorrow. He based Norman Bates on Ed Gein, the serial murderer cannibal.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:49 PM (Q+gd/) Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 09:49 PM (DJUFe) 249
his costar Peter Scolari was as talented when they were on Bosom Buddies, but he hasn't had the big-screen fortune that Hanks has.
--- Dying in 2021 hasn't helped his career, either. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 *** He was a regular on Bob Newhart's Vermont series, the one with the surprise ending in the last episode. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:50 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:50 PM (q3u5l) 251
I mean, we have the power, why not wield it? We can tell obama's Netflix to go shit in their hat. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 09:50 PM (DJUFe) 252
Bogart was also a pretty good chess player.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:51 PM (Q+gd/) 253
Saw Bloch on the old Tom Snyder show, Tomorrow. He based Norman Bates on Ed Gein, the serial murderer cannibal.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 *** Bloch is credited with the line, when asked how he can stand to write such horrifying material: "I have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk." Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:51 PM (wzUl9) 254
Hepburn wrote a book about her experience filming African Queen. She got some tropical disease and almost died, and almost the entire crew got some disease or another. She wrote that the only two who were healthy throughout were John Huston and Bogart, and in her opinion this was because the two of them never touched any water but instead hung out together and drank whiskey and gin from the moment they got up until they finally went to bed.
Their blood was probably had such a high alcohol content in their blood that no pathogen could survive there. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 09:52 PM (c7Ygk) 255
Confession: I NEVER liked Katherine Hepburn. Not young, not old. Not in African Queen, not in Rooster Cogburn. There is something about her that set my teeth on edge. Of the silver screen ladies, give me Lauren Bacall or ... dammit, the lady from His Girl Friday... Russell?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:52 PM (zZu0s) 256
He went to prestigious private schools but not college. He enlisted in the Navy in 1918 because he got kicked out of school. Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 *** Right -- he'd have been about eighteen or nineteen then, as he was born in 1899 or 1900. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:52 PM (wzUl9) 257
I didn't do Netflix after they quit DVDs. But I'm an invisible person. Not sure missing my $$$ means anything to them.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:53 PM (6p0Jv) 258
I mean, we have the power, why not wield it?
We can tell obama's Netflix to go shit in their hat. Posted by: Soothsayer The real question is if a Judge will allow it. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 09:54 PM (/lPRQ) Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2025 09:54 PM (mP0Kj) 260
He based Norman Bates on Ed Gein, the serial murderer cannibal.
---- Many such cases! Bates, Leatherface, Buffalo Bill AND Hannibal Lechter. The demand for serial killers FAR outpaces the supply. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:54 PM (asXVI) Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2025 09:54 PM (mP0Kj) 262
How did they fit that creature into an average room? He needed a *lot* of space.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (wzUl9) An inserted or deleted scene after Solo and Chewie leave the Cantina. In the hangar they find Jabba waiting for them. The CGI is horrible too. He's tiny vs his size in Return. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:55 PM (zZu0s) 263
Rosalind Russell. His Girl Friday. Hubby hated that one. They tried really fast I recall. She had a smart hat, I think.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:55 PM (6p0Jv) 264
Talked really fast
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (6p0Jv) 265
257 I didn't do Netflix after they quit DVDs. But I'm an invisible person. Not sure missing my $$$ means anything to them.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:53 PM (6p0Jv) Netflix has had a couple interesting TV series... But... wait a year? and you can stream them elsewhere. Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (mP0Kj) 266
238 So, the thing about Gump.
It's a classic Spielberg/Zemeckis joint. Much like "Who Censored Roger Rabbit," it has little to do with the source material. And in the book? Gump is not mentally handicapped: He's a dumb-ass. The thing is a farce. Gump's best friend is an orangutan named Sue who rides on the shuttle with him. Steve & Rob realized: Make him genuinely (pseudo) mentally handicapped, and we're in Oscar territory. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:42 PM (asXVI) So....Kurt Lazarus's lecture in "Tropic Thunder" was actually 100% earnest and accurate advice? Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (Lhaco) 267
Confession: I NEVER liked Katherine Hepburn. Not young, not old. Not in African Queen, not in Rooster Cogburn. There is something about her that set my teeth on edge. Of the silver screen ladies, give me Lauren Bacall or ... dammit, the lady from His Girl Friday... Russell?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 *** Rosalind Russell. Yes, Kate kind of an acquired taste. I wonder what Bringing Up Baby would have been like with another comic actress playing opposite Cary Grant. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (wzUl9) 268
How did they fit that creature into an average room? He needed a *lot* of space.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (wzUl9) An inserted or deleted scene after Solo and Chewie leave the Cantina. In the hangar they find Jabba waiting for them. The CGI is horrible too. He's tiny vs his size in Return. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 *** A mistake, dramatically. Part of the interest in the situation is, "What does this 'Jabba the Hutt' look like?" Keeping it a mystery until the third film was the right way to go. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:58 PM (wzUl9) 269
If they hadn't cast Harrison Ford in Revenge of the Jedi, the tag line could've been, "Look, Ma, No Hans!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:58 PM (L/fGl) 270
>>>The really odd thing about Woody Harrelson, and I still have troubled wrapping my brain around this, is that he is a great actor and very versatile. Has done pretty much every kind of role and is always very good at it. I forget I'm watching dumb and obnoxious Woody Harrelson.
Posted by: Puddleglum -- Ed Harris doppelganger. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (04Glf) 271
Many such cases! Bates, Leatherface, Buffalo Bill AND Hannibal Lechter.
The demand for serial killers FAR outpaces the supply. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 *** Time for a new, faithful movie adaptation of Ellery Queen's serial killer novel from 1949, Cat of Many Tails. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (wzUl9) 272
And ONT is nood
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (wzUl9) 273
Rosalind Russell may be one of my favorite actresses. She was brilliant in "His Girl Friday" and in "The Trouble With Angels". She unlike so many in Hollywood was married to the same man for about 45 and was also a Roman Catholic That may be why her Mother Superior role in "The Trouble with Angels " was so good- because she went to RC schools as a young person.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (7RYym) 274
Confession: I NEVER liked Katherine Hepburn. Not young, not old. Not in African Queen, not in Rooster Cogburn.
--- Thing is? Those are BOTH old roles. She's 44 in "African Queen"--which is way long in the tooth in 1951. Check her out in "Little Women," "Stage Door" and "Bringing Up Baby". Oh, and she plays a pilot in one where she's quite appealing. "Christopher Strong"? Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (asXVI) 275
So....Kurt Lazarus's lecture in "Tropic Thunder" was actually 100% earnest and accurate advice?
--- YES! Which is why, you'll notice, we haven't HAD a mentally handicapped protagonist in a film since. It'd just make people laugh and be embarrassed. Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 10:02 PM (asXVI) 276
Talked really fast
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (6p0Jv) It was a bit faster than your average Thin Man movie. But they seemed to respect the audience more back then. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 10:02 PM (zZu0s) 277
202 I wrote, "Haven't seen mention of Hanks in Splash," and when I catch new comments, it's mentioned twice. Of course.
Posted by: mindful webworker - splish splash I was takin' a bath at December 06, 2025 09:25 PM (yqA/D) Hanks is an OK actor... but... Hanks plays Hanks in different situations. It's like John Wayne.... he is always John Wayne... or Clint Eastwood... same deal. They are just themselves in different situations. Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2025 10:03 PM (mP0Kj) 278
Fast talk/overtalk was Howard Hawks' signature. Enough to where when Christopher Nyby directed his first film "The Thing From Another World," people just figured Hawks (who produced) had actually done the direction.
Thanks everybody for coming by! See you in the New Year! Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 10:03 PM (asXVI) 279
Check her out in "Little Women," "Stage Door" and "Bringing Up Baby". Oh, and she plays a pilot in one where she's quite appealing. "Christopher Strong"?
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (asXVI) I picked those two because they were movies I sort of liked. Hated old Lion in Winter too. Fuck Henry Finda and On Golden Pond. Young, she is marginally less annoying. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 10:04 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:05 PM (04Glf) 281
Several of us were sitting around today, doing the BS routine. Not about anything important, simply gassing, but it turned out to be totally enjoyable. One of the things was putting bets on tomorrow if anyone would deign to comment on the 84th anniversary of that momentous day at Pearl. I say yes, from the people like me who are steadfast lovers of the most exceptional country on the planet, not so much from the left side. Any thoughts on the matter? And thank you for letting me change the subject. Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (vFbHf) 282
It's a little late to change the subject since we got NOODed, but I think there will be recognition of Pearl Harbor tomorrow by all the usual suspects, in all the usual ways.
(Which isn't saying much, of course.) Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (asXVI) 283
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (vFbHf)
Boomers and Gen Xers with an interest in history might mention it. If they do Millenials, Gen Z, and 100 million foreigners will just look confused. Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 10:36 PM (R86kT) Hobby Thread - December 6, 2025 [TRex]![]() Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. A spin of the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies (TM) landed on scavenging and scrounging. Are you thinking "I'm not into scavenging and scrounging and I really don't know what that means, but I am eager to learn more. I can't wait to get into the content!" I knew it. Enjoy.We did a bargain hunting theme in February, but let's think wider and bigger. This is more of a scavenger hunt idea - do you look for cool things and what cool things have you found (whether a bargain or not)? ![]() ![]() I'm a professional scavenger making a living selling curbside garbage. This blog details my finds and sales. It also acts as an archive for things beautiful and historic that would otherwise have been destroyed.Coins, postcards, artwork, military medals, photos, catalogs, jewelry, pottery, trophies, and more. This blog looks like a slice through history and culture. ![]() For years I have wandered around churches on days out, and am always drawn in by the colour and imagery of church kneelers. In amongst the grey stone and deep brown of the pews they sing out. They conjure up fantastical worlds filled with everything from the local swimming club to strange mythological beasts and heraldic crests. Three years ago on a trip to St Breaca Church in Breage, Cornwall, a towering pile of kneelers caught my attention. I snapped a photograph and so an obsession was born. I began The Church Kneeler Archive, where I actively collect and archive images of kneelers. I have travelled everywhere from the depths of West Yorkshire to the tip of Land's End in my pursuit of these tiny tapestries, and along the way I have made extraordinary discoveries.
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Don't scrounge anymore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:31 PM (uQesX) 2
Welcome Hobbiests
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:31 PM (Ia/+0) 3
I guess my current hobby is making comments on the Hobby Thread and being ignored.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:32 PM (uQesX) 4
Used to be called a "scavvie" if you went scrounging in jr and high school.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:33 PM (uQesX) 5
Well, was going to bring up my hobby that finally got back to yesterday and this evening, scrapping lead. Made a ingot last evening from bunch of lead scraps and getting slag got a bit more our of it just before dark.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:33 PM (Ia/+0) 6
Thrift stores! Estate sales! These things make me happy. Finding quality things on the. cheap. Thank you, Mr. Dino.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:34 PM (6p0Jv) 7
Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I'm detailing and weathering a 1/35 Whippet and it's turning out pretty nice. Ordered a Type 1 Chi-He from a hobby store in Tokyo. I like ordering from them because they send Japanese snacks along with every order.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 06, 2025 05:34 PM (31p00) 8
I got my scrounging from my grandfather, he lived through the depression raising a family so nothing got tossed away if it had potential.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:36 PM (Ia/+0) 9
I will be very disappointed if someone does not submit an ornament made of macaroni art.
Did you forget most of us are 29, T? I'd say most of the macaroni art we made was probably in the 60s and long since gone. I have one or two from the 60s, but they're all stored where I'm too tired to get to anymore. The wife insists on newer ornaments on the tree. Does a darn good job of decorating it, though. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:38 PM (uQesX) 10
Well, was going to bring up my hobby that finally got back to yesterday and this evening, scrapping lead. Made a ingot last evening from bunch of lead scraps and getting slag got a bit more our of it just before dark.
Posted by: Skip ---- I have a bucket of lead scraps behind the shop. Mr. Scary says maybe one day he will cast some bullets. I'm guessing one day will be never. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:38 PM (6p0Jv) 11
Got a feeling people are untangling Christmas lights today.
Those things can be frustrating. Hanging them on the eve of a house is not fun either. Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (5Je/N) 12
I got my scrounging from my grandfather, he lived through the depression raising a family so nothing got tossed away if it had potential.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:36 PM (Ia/+0) My Dad was Silent Generation, raised by Depression-era parents. One of my chores as a kid was straightening nails he had pulled from various things. We grew up in a frugal family, to say the least. Mom would re-use ziploc bags if they had previously stored something dry. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (0aYVJ) 13
https://tinyurl.com/yc6fp6a3
Missed this as happened on Sunday, the family tradition to make Christmas grave wreaths for passed family members. 4 of us made 16 wreaths. This is a very long tradition, hope it continues Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (Ia/+0) 14
I remember making macaroni art and a matchstick cross at Vacation Bible School in the mid 70s.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:40 PM (6p0Jv) 15
I don't scrounge anymore either Orange Ent. I never had the knowledge to really find treasures at thrift stores and the like but in college and early working days they were my go to for filling the wardrobe and decorating. The last few years have been collecting things that are still good that I or my parents had acquired that were not being used and getting them to a thrift store.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:41 PM (hhkIi) 16
Cannot do the scrounging.
I find I hold onto things for no reason at all. Then I go into a wild cleaning phase where I will trash what I have accumulated. When I finally move from this apartment I want to take as little as possible with me. So as it stands my hobbies are golf, shooting. Scuba diving is no longer viable. I do hope to add travel as a hobby in the near future. ;-) Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (PxkKd) 17
I no longer have any macaroni art from my childhood.
I did find the Christmas stocking knitted for me by my grandmother. It has my name and my birth year among other features. I have a couple of other hand-made Christmas stockings but that one is by far my favorite because it's so personal. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (ESVrU) 18
My lead scavenger started to make bullets but my job sometimes its a bonanza. I have to have over 400 pounds of lead here.
Pure lead not from contaminated can be worth a bit Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:45 PM (Ia/+0) 19
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:41 PM (hhkIi)
Yeah. Pale. Unless you have the knowledge of the value of so many things, you can pass up something worth real money. I occasionally watch a scrounger type show on Roku where people have all this expensive stuff in their garages or barns. At my age, I'm more into getting rid of things instead of acquiring more stuff my family has to get rid of when the time comes. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:45 PM (uQesX) 20
12. I still do that with ziplock bags. Not all the time but fairly often. Frugal family and then it was 'save the environment' in school so it just feels wrong to toss the clean ziplock or not re-use the sturdy plastic bottles from Pure Leaf tea etc with water from home instead of buying a fancy water bottle or buying bottled water routinely.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:46 PM (hhkIi) 21
As long as you don't put food in the bags, I see no reason not to reuse ziplocks instead of buying new ones if they're in good condition.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:47 PM (uQesX) 22
I actually still have a ceramic mug I made back in junior high. Never drank from it.
Currently it is on a shelf with a golf ball and other knick knacks in it. Also a small wooden box made in shop class. That too was made in junior high. Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (PxkKd) 23
""Are you a woodworker that sources materials from discarded furniture? Are you a musician that has found and restored tired instruments? ""
Both. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (snZF9) 24
I'm trying to use up all the stuff I've scavenged, Scrounged or hoarded. It will probably take the rest of my life even if I don't get anything else.
On a different hobby topic; Where Winds Meet is a new (to the US) free to play game on Steam. I have created a guild in game for the Horde, if anyone is interested. It's called AoSHQHorde and, my toon is named Nissanna. Feel free to message me in game or here to join. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (lFFaq) 25
I used to go too all the hamfests I could and buy parts in the flea market. Now I have a garage full of junk that I'm starting to throw away.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 05:50 PM (pkeXY) 26
Also a small wooden box made in shop class. That too was made in junior high.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (PxkKd) Oh no! Not a wooden box!! https://tinyurl.com/yhwam7n6 Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:51 PM (uQesX) 27
When I was in graduate school prime scavenging locations were the dumpsters outside student housing areas at the end of the month (moving day) especially at the end of the semester. The secret underground student economy was a thing, and it was considered good manners to leave any furniture that was functional but not a part of *your* life any more outside the dumpster so it could find a new home. I still have two very sturdy chairs I saved from the grad school dumpster ...
(ooh, I got a Notable Comment! First time for everything!) Posted by: Sabrina Chase at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (CidsT) 28
""Do you haunt estate sales or auctions or seek barn finds? Do you stop by garage sales or tag sales looking for bargains? Have you ever bought the contents of an abandoned storage unit? Do you visit swap meets?""
I used to do motorcycle swap meets for rare harley parts, and these days its all mostly junk, so I rarely do that anymore. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (snZF9) 29
Mom would re-use ziploc bags if they had previously stored something dry. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide My mom washed them out and kept them. So do I. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (pkeXY) 30
My Granddad was a Dumpster Diver. He liked to put together bicycles for kids who didn't have one. He also liked putting together lawnmowers from parts he'd find.
He was a Depression kid and WWII veteran of the China Burma India theater. He saw terrible things and never spoke of them. He was kind and jolly. It made him happy to recycle things to help someone else. He was a great man. I miss you, PaPaw. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:55 PM (6p0Jv) 31
Since I'm not Catholic/High Church I had no idea kneelers were still worked by individuals and not just covered in mass-produced fabric.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 06, 2025 05:55 PM (lFFaq) 32
Curbside scavenger sounds like a lot 0f crackheads I've met.
Posted by: Eromero at December 06, 2025 05:57 PM (LHPAg) 33
Anyone who reloads their ammunition will be a scrounger. Used brass at the range nobody picked up is the usual. I'm not above looking through the trash barrel at the range. I have a trash barrel of old style lead wheel weights, probably a few hundred pounds, that I melt down to make cast bullets. An old heavy pot, found at the curb, can be used to melt lead. I have a small electric furnace to do that but have heard of people using old Coleman stoves to do the melting.
Part of the fun of reloading ammo is to make a game of doing it for the least cost without skimping on safety. Some creative scrounging is standard. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 05:58 PM (yTvNw) 34
>>>I used the 3D printer to make the Nakatomi plaza Advent calendar.
As you pull each day, Hans Gruber falls one more floor. She loved it. Posted by: Chappyman66 at November 29, 2025 06:01 PM (boKcN) This is so great! Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:59 PM (RuTUS) 35
26 Oh no! Not a wooden box!!
https://tinyurl.com/yhwam7n6 Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:51 PM LOL LOL Damn that was funny!! Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 06:00 PM (PxkKd) 36
Thrift stores! Estate sales! These things make me happy. Finding quality things on the. cheap. Thank you, Mr. Dino.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary ************ Oh, I couldn't agree more. I can spend hours just wandering among the stalls looking at all the "treasures." Some have even come home with me! Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 06, 2025 06:01 PM (ITBpd) 37
13 https://tinyurl.com/yc6fp6a3
Missed this as happened on Sunday, the family tradition to make Christmas grave wreaths for passed family members. 4 of us made 16 wreaths. This is a very long tradition, hope it continues Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (Ia/+0) Wonderful, Skip! Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:03 PM (RuTUS) 38
I was expecting either i) toy train sets, or ii) bamboo. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 06:04 PM (KJCdi) 39
I spent a good part of the day prepping for my main winter hobby; I got my snowboarding gear out, gave everything a good test-fitting, and filling the pockets with the appropriate emergency or back-up gear. Tomorrow I actually go snowboarding. Still not a whole lot of snow on the local mountain, so it may be short day if the runs aren't any good. But, still, it's important to get on the mountain and at least work the rarely-used muscles...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 06:05 PM (Lhaco) 40
Anyone who reloads their ammunition will be a scrounger. Used brass at the range nobody picked up is the usual.
Ya gotta be careful with range brass. If you accidentally pick up a caliber you don't reload, you're now obligated to buy the dies and a rifle and start reloading it. Posted by: Oddbob at December 06, 2025 06:06 PM (3nLb4) 41
Always sadly, 1 wreath is for my cousin who died when she was barely not 16yo in a car accident right around Christmas.
She would have been 50 this year Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:07 PM (Ia/+0) 42
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I was expecting either i) toy train sets, or ii) bamboo. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 06:04 PM *** Bamboo? Posted by: TRex - topic research dino at December 06, 2025 06:09 PM (ITBpd) 43
29 years ago went to a sale at UC Berkeley. Lots of sciency stuff. Guy was buying an electron microscope. Said he was going to make one helluva mouse trap!
ZZZZAP! Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 06:09 PM (Kt19C) 44
My uncle Tony worked for NYC Sanitation and brought home all kinds of treasures.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:10 PM (sF9Ts) 45
The one thing I did always try to seek out is old vacuum tubes. Ones from the 40's, 50's or 60's. I used to try to find old wrecked radios, TVs, or anything that used them. Either 12ax7 preamp tubes, or 6v6, 6L6, or EL34 power tubes. Vintage tubes are great in guitar amps.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 06:11 PM (snZF9) 46
Bamboo?
Posted by: TRex - topic research dino at December 06, 2025 06:09 PM (ITBpd) Pro tip, T: go for the Big Bamboo. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:11 PM (uQesX) 47
Those kneelers are needlepoint. A task baked in patience. I made one needlepoint piece in my life - for my brother. When I gave it to him I informed him he would have the ONLY piece of needlepoint I would ever make, lol. I've only ever seen those kind of kneelers in old historic Southern churches....beautiful pieces that have lasted the ages....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 06, 2025 06:12 PM (ITBpd) 48
When I did more woodworking, I would scrounge any wood I could. I have a couple of hunks of tree trunk I use as a hammering spot. I collected some fruit wood branches, left at the curb, to make walking sticks and trivets. Fruit wood is hard but can be worked with sharp hand tools. You can do a lot of shaping with rasps and files. I used to haunt garage sales for old hand tools that could often be restored with a little effort. Probably saved a few hundred dollars over the years doing that.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:13 PM (yTvNw) 49
I have a gold pocket watch, with gold chain, circa 1885, from family long ago.
There are other family heirlooms. Nobody cares. Seriously valuable stuff. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 06:13 PM (NwnyJ) 50
25 I used to go too all the hamfests I could and buy parts in the flea market. Now I have a garage full of junk that I'm starting to throw away.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. I'm searching for a reasonably priced vacuum variable capacitor for 20-10M mag loop project. Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 06, 2025 06:14 PM (abIsI) 51
used to do motorcycle swap meets
At a campout guy had euro bike parts. Bought a beautiful streamline headlight nacelle dirt cheap. Resold it cheap within an hour to a welcome buyer. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 06:14 PM (Kt19C) 52
I inherited a pocket watch. It is missing the crystal and one hand. I took it to the jewelers for repairs. They sent it out and it sat there for three months, untouched. I finally got it back. Still should be repaired as it seems to run.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 06:15 PM (+mUZM) 53
35 26 Oh no! Not a wooden box!!
https://tinyurl.com/yhwam7n6 Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:51 PM LOL LOL Damn that was funny!! Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 06:00 PM (PxkKd) hahahahaha good ones Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:15 PM (RuTUS) 54
Mrs. Mahon is getting back into cross-stitching, after a lengthy battle with Lyme disease. She is very happy about the muscle memory recall.
Last winter she could barely walk without a cane. Her recovery has been remarkable. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 06, 2025 06:15 PM (0aYVJ) 55
Pug, that is wonderful news. Hoping her recovery continues. And cross-stitching is my main happy place, just calms me. I have two more ornaments to finish before Christmas...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 06, 2025 06:17 PM (ITBpd) 56
40 ... "Ya gotta be careful with range brass. If you accidentally pick up a caliber you don't reload, you're now obligated to buy the dies and a rifle and start reloading it."
I avoided that temptation, sometimes just barely. Since I have to sort the cases anyway, I just put the calibers I don't use aside and offer them to folks who do use them. Met some nice people doing that. I don't do this myself but some brass can be reformed, especially the case neck, into a different caliber. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:19 PM (yTvNw) 57
45 The one thing I did always try to seek out is old vacuum tubes. Ones from the 40's, 50's or 60's. I used to try to find old wrecked radios, TVs, or anything that used them. Either 12ax7 preamp tubes, or 6v6, 6L6, or EL34 power tubes. Vintage tubes are great in guitar amps.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division I have an even dozen NIB 811 RCA tubes for my HF amplifier. I purchased the whole set about 15 years ago from some old guy that listed them on Craigslist. They were cheaply priced. Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 06, 2025 06:19 PM (abIsI) Posted by: UXO at December 06, 2025 06:20 PM (Wnv9h) 59
Scavenging & scrounging brings out the hoarder in me.
Dangerous Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 06:20 PM (dE3DB) 60
3 I guess my current hobby is making comments on the Hobby Thread and being ignored.
Posted by: OrangeEnt -- *participates by ignoring OrangeEnt* Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 06:23 PM (dE3DB) 61
Pug, that is good news that your Mrs. can stitch again. It has been a long time but cross stitching is nice to do.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 06:24 PM (6p0Jv) 62
*participates by ignoring OrangeEnt*
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 06:23 PM (dE3DB) And a fine job you've been doing! (snif) Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:26 PM (uQesX) 63
56 I don't do this myself but some brass can be reformed, especially the case neck, into a different caliber.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:19 PM *** Anyone try melting down the brass and re-using the raw material for something else? Posted by: TRex - brassy dino at December 06, 2025 06:26 PM (ITBpd) 64
*participates by ignoring OrangeEnt*
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 06:23 PM (dE3DB) And a fine job you've been doing! (snif) Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:26 PM You guys hear something? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 06, 2025 06:28 PM (Wnv9h) 65
Hey Scube, if you are not scuba diving anymore is your nic going to change?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 06, 2025 06:29 PM (ITBpd) 66
I was waiting for the hobby thread to post this (thought some of you may have seen it already).
Guy made a massive Christmas Village and Train display. https://youtu.be/ag3AFwavnMk Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 06, 2025 06:31 PM (OGOaV) 67
Anyone try melting down the brass and re-using the raw material for something else?
Posted by: TRex - brassy dino at December 06, 2025 06:26 PM (ITBpd) I have more brass and lead than I'll ever need. Don't know what to do with it. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:33 PM (uQesX) 68
Kneelers? I have always had kneeler pads, but they are built in to the pews.
Is this a Protestant thing? Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 06:34 PM (zZu0s) 69
13 the family tradition to make Christmas grave wreaths for passed family members. 4 of us made 16 wreaths.
This is a very long tradition, hope it continues Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM *** Nice tradition Skip. Thanks for sharing. Posted by: TRex - wreaths are circular garland at December 06, 2025 06:36 PM (ITBpd) 70
I have lots of brass scrap as well. Constantly watch videos on people making objects with brass.
A sword would be neat to make, but smaller objects as well. Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:36 PM (Ia/+0) 71
This is my 'round to it scavengering. I save wood from old furniture, strip copper out of defunct engines and wires , cut and save unusual shapes of wood out of trees and strands of horse tail hair for braiding.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 06:37 PM (sDNVV) 72
I do lead out in my fire pit with a grate supported by blocks around the pit. But think brass would need a bit higher temperature and a kiln
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:38 PM (Ia/+0) 73
I am getting rid of most of what I accumulated through estate sales and curb pickups.
Beautiful wood (walnut and birch, some cedar), table saw, hand tools. The only thing I use routinely now is a power supply from an estate sale that runs my slot car track. Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 06, 2025 06:39 PM (GwqYh) 74
I used to embarrass my kids by hauling stuff out of people's trash.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 06:39 PM (0nHVk) 75
Hording is just an element of all my other hobbies. I horde until I have a complete project then I forget about it and horde some more stuff until...
It's all about having stuff to do when and if I retire. Posted by: Reforger at December 06, 2025 06:41 PM (03GBw) 76
C-class solar flare(not CME - my mistake) M 8.1 duration 20 minutes. 20:39 UTC today.
Anyway, to the hobby - trying to play a few tunes with a guitar tuned down a whole step like Leon Redbone used to to...makes the strings on this Takamine Santa Fe a little loose and ringy...nice to sing, though. Tunes fit for a baritone. Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:42 PM (vd6bO) 77
Did not realize how big a thing scrounging was until I settled in Florida. People put stuff on their curb and advertise it on Facebook Marketplace as free stuff.
The ex was addicted to thrift stores, so now I tend to avoid accumulating stuff. My general rule is, once it's in your house, you'll at some point need to figure how to get it out of your house... Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 06:42 PM (nbLIj) 78
Folks who shoot traditional black powder guns (not the cursed modern inline stuff) tend to be scroungers. Old felt hats are stamped out to make wads for revolvers and for black powder cartridges. Cloth from end of rolls at fabric stores, often given away or at a huge discount, can be made into shooting or cleaning patches, heavier cloth into shooting bags and other cloth accessories. Percussion caps can be made from aluminum soda cans and toy caps. Pure lead for round balls can be found in scrap piles of old plumbing pipes and old style window weights. Metal containers like Altoid boxes get turned into fire starting kits, little tool and implement tins. Pure cotton, heavy stuff, can be made into charcloth using a grill and tight tin can.
So many possibilities for scrounging and improvising. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:43 PM (yTvNw) 79
I guess my current hobby is making comments on the Hobby Thread and being ignored.
Posted by: OrangeEnt And you are very good at it! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:43 PM (z/7Ah) 80
And you are very good at it!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:43 PM (z/7Ah) Sorta slacking at it this week. I've been noticed a couple times. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:46 PM (uQesX) 81
66 Guy made a massive Christmas Village and Train display.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 06, 2025 06:31 PM *** Wow. That's impressive! Thanks for posting! Posted by: TRex - All aboard! at December 06, 2025 06:47 PM (ITBpd) 82
I have a short box trailer here filled with stuff for projects.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 06:47 PM (sDNVV) 83
Anyway, to the hobby - trying to play a few tunes with a guitar tuned down a whole step like Leon Redbone used to to...makes the strings on this Takamine Santa Fe a little loose and ringy...nice to sing, though. Tunes fit for a baritone.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:42 PM (vd6bO) Welcome to my life. Frigging metalheads never tune to E standard anymore, some do, but now we got E flat, D, C#, C, and some even B. Technically the guitar needs to be set up for the key its tuned to. The string gauge needs to be heavier, the truss rod needs to be adjusted, etc. I have a rack that holds 7 guitars next to me because of all the frigging tunnings, and they're not my good ones because I'm not putting them through that crap. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 06:47 PM (snZF9) 84
I have lots of brass scrap as well. Constantly watch videos on people making objects with brass.
A sword would be neat to make, but smaller objects as well. Posted by: Skip BIL, no not that one. A different one! Thi one cast a big brass skull. it is really well done. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:48 PM (z/7Ah) 85
When we moved last winter, we had to be very harsh about getting rid of all the stuff that we accumulated over the 20-plus years we lived in our house. Even after The Cull, we have a storage unit crammed with stuff in our new town.
We had a garage sale, which helped. But I ask, why did we have six TVs? Sons joked that we lived in a sports bar. We now have two, which is less crazy. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 06, 2025 06:48 PM (0aYVJ) 86
63 ... "Anyone try melting down the brass and re-using the raw material for something else?"
Lead for bullets can be melted on a campfire or over a camp stove. Brass melts at around 1,700 degrees F, IIRC. Never heard of a hobbyist reloader melting down brass cases. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:49 PM (yTvNw) 87
I scrounged some steel angle and some lag bolts today.
Posted by: fd, formally known as f'd at December 06, 2025 06:50 PM (vFG9F) 88
Sorta slacking at it this week. I've been noticed a couple times.
Posted by: OrangeEnt Take heart, I'm sure we'll all start ignoring you again soon! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:50 PM (z/7Ah) 89
once it's in your house, you'll at some point need to figure how to get it out of your house...
Used to date her . Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 06:50 PM (Kt19C) 90
I picked up a real cute little kitchen setup from someone's trash, I was going to fix it all up for my grandkids to play with when they visit, unfortunately I had it sitting next to the garage when the big tree fell on it back in October. I have since burned it in the fireplace.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 06:51 PM (0nHVk) 91
I have since burned it in the fireplace.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz Definitely up scaled it! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:53 PM (z/7Ah) 92
I was waiting for the hobby thread to post this (thought some of you may have seen it already).
Guy made a massive Christmas Village and Train display. https://youtu.be/ag3AFwavnMk Posted by: No One of Consequence *********** Thanks for sharing this. What a collection! Love the views from the camera on the front of the train, and the night shots. And yes, my collection started as 3 village pieces back in the day, and then grew - but not anywhere near the size of theirs. And a third was donated when we were moving cross country. Does he really take that down and then reassemble it every year? Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 06, 2025 06:54 PM (ITBpd) 93
Lead is only about 750°f to melt. We would drop shot anywhere between 760 and 810 depending on size. Any higher some trace element , I forget which, level goes haywire. Antimony I think.
Posted by: Reforger at December 06, 2025 06:55 PM (03GBw) 94
, and they're not my good ones because I'm not putting them through that crap.
_-_ Howls! I have a few I keep out...one archtop, a 2000's vintage Recording King, an Epiphone J45, the l'il Takamine, and a banjo. The Takamine has led a very rough life, so it is the one that gets the de-tune assignments. Downside to having them all out realized last night. The teenage son who does not realize how big he is tried to wrestle me to the floor yesterday. Landed on the guitar rack and collapsed it. Oddly enough, not a scratch on any of them...only damage seemed to be that the cookie the big boy was holding seemed to be in pieces inside the Epiphone....easier to get out than a pick, though. Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (vd6bO) 95
My favorite was a comment made by a workman who said his grandfather had a shoebox on which he had written "string too short to save," filled with, yup, exactly what he described.
Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (PkCdJ) 96
As my tendonitis recedes I'm going to start some small simple whittling projects to get back some hand strength. Probably ball in a cage, 'five minute' wizard or owl (takes me longer), or comfort birds. Basswood all the way. Might as well use a hobby as minor physical therapy.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (yTvNw) 97
90 I picked up a real cute little kitchen setup from someone's trash, I was going to fix it all up for my grandkids to play with when they visit, unfortunately I had it sitting next to the garage when the big tree fell on it back in October. I have since burned it in the fireplace.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz --- Inadvertently repurposed toys into Lincoln logs? That is a win-win. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (6p0Jv) 98
Might as well use a hobby as minor physical therapy.
Posted by: JTB That sounds like a great idea. Purchase Band-Aids first! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (z/7Ah) 99
Thanks for the interesting and informative Scrounging Hobby Thread, T-Rex!
I have reached the stage where I really need to evaluate what to keep and what treasures to bless someone else with. Mostly blessing others with my treasures which are no longer needed or used. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (kB9dk) 100
My housemate is an artist and wants to sell some of her scratchboard works for Christmas money. https://tinyurl.com/2aedc8nu link goes to facebook.
I had to search online to get some idea of what scratchboard art went for, the 11x14 size which is what she has seems to be around 400 dollars at the etsy links that came up. I'm wishing I was farther ahead on my decluttering, I think these are great, but its always "but where would I hang it?" Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (hhkIi) 101
AZ deplorable moron, good to see you, please say hi to your lovely Missus for me. Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 07:02 PM (0nHVk) 102
Looking at some empty Balvenie bottles. A string soaked in gasoline tied around the bottle and ignited then doused in water will give you a clean cut on the glass.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:03 PM (sDNVV) 103
Yellow brass melts 1650- 1720 F
Videos I watch use a kiln and gas fired Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (Ia/+0) 104
"My favorite was a comment made by a workman who said his grandfather had a shoebox on which he had written "string too short to save," filled with, yup, exactly what he described.
Posted by: Wenda" I have a box full of springs labeled "Springs". Then I have another box of springs labeled "More Springs". Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (vFG9F) 105
say hi to your lovely Missus for me. Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz Thank you! I will! And I thought the same when I saw DDS! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (z/7Ah) 106
That is wonderful news about Mrs. Mahon's recovery from Lyme disease. She must be thrilled.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (yTvNw) 107
Downside to having them all out realized last night. The teenage son who does not realize how big he is tried to wrestle me to the floor yesterday. Landed on the guitar rack and collapsed it. Oddly enough, not a scratch on any of them...only damage seemed to be that the cookie the big boy was holding seemed to be in pieces inside the Epiphone....easier to get out than a pick, though.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (vd6bO) Yup, dodged a bullet there. Nothing expensive goes in my rack. The last thing I need is Mrs B knocking them over like a leg lamp. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (snZF9) 108
I still have, and often find a screw or bolt my grandfather collected in cans. And if you need say 4, and find 1 then there are 3 others just like it in that can
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (Ia/+0) 109
>>My uncle Tony worked for NYC Sanitation and brought home all kinds of treasures.
There's a woman here in town that runs a dog walking/sitting business. Her husband works for the local rubbish service. They have a room in their house where the 4 legged visitors stay and its furnished with furniture he finds people throwing away. Dogs live large in that house. Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (viF8m) 110
I did acquire a nice sofa today that folds out to a full size bed for Little. 40 bucks and it looked like it just came out of the showroom. He and I hit the Waffle House on the way down. Waitress had a nose ring, but was absolutely effervescent. I was conflicted...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (nbLIj) 111
It took my wife and I quite a few years to mostly break the scrounging habit. When we were younger, broke and raising the kids, something on the curb with a "Free" sign was a red flag. Yes, we found some good and useful stuff.
Best find I ever came across was a Dual Reference turntable, perfect condition, in a thrift store for $4.95 . Still use it. Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 06, 2025 07:09 PM (yNfcm) 112
I have a box full of springs labeled "Springs". Then I have another box of springs labeled "More Springs".
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (vFG9F) I got box full of old harley valve springs. I keep meaning to go through them one day and put them on a tester to check them out and make matched sets to weed out the weak ones. In reality, that probably won't get done before colander face mask world happens and they'll be repurposed for other shit. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 07:10 PM (snZF9) 113
I have a box full of springs labeled "Springs". Then I have another box of springs labeled "More Springs".
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (vFG9F) NO SPRINGS!!! HA HA HA HA! Posted by: Coily at December 06, 2025 07:10 PM (0aYVJ) 114
98 ... "That sounds like a great idea.
Purchase Band-Aids first!" Trust me. With my big hands and small whittling projects, band-aids are always nearby. Plus I use a kevlar carving glove to hold the wood and a thumb pad on the knife hand. I haven't cut my knife hand. Yet. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 07:11 PM (yTvNw) 115
Cleaned-out the father-in-law's garage when he passed...in addition to his own stuff, he woulld retrieve things from the dumpster that the neighbors threw away that he thought they might actually need later. Each thing...and the garage was very, very full of the things, had a piece of scrap paper with the retrieval date witten on it in pencil.
I was new to their family, so I got the job of cleaning it out. Nobody else wanted to, since you never know what kind of stuff that belongs to a family member has memories that matter attached to it. Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:11 PM (vd6bO) 116
Keychain Compass I've been meaning to acquire one, but don't want cheap chinese junk. So I occasionally look at ebay. These things were cheap & plentiful when we were kids, yes? Didn't Coleman make some? Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:13 PM (xTbNp) 117
Sorry to be less visible tonight. Interweb connection is unstable at best. Just wanted to say hello and thank everyone in case it becomes unpossible later.
Posted by: TRex - bad connection dino at December 06, 2025 07:14 PM (OOGCW) 118
btw, the chinese can't even make a compass that works Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:14 PM (xTbNp) 119
NO SPRINGS!!! HA HA HA HA!
Posted by: Coily ---- My hobby is MST3K references. The Master would not be pleased. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 07:14 PM (6p0Jv) 120
We moved here 4.5 years ago. I filled two 3rolling garbage bins With stuff collected over the previous 3 houses. I was lucky the bins rolled...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:15 PM (z/7Ah) 121
"I keep meaning to go through them one day and put them on a tester to check them out and make matched sets to weed out the weak ones. In reality, that probably won't get done before colander face mask world happens and they'll be repurposed for other shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division" That's kind of my philosophy. I'll sort them if I need them. Life is too short to spend sorting springs. Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:15 PM (vFG9F) 122
a jackknife a compass a piece of Bazooka gum, or just the wrapper from a piece When did these things stop being "essential" to us? Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:16 PM (xTbNp) 123
Thanks Coily! I knew someone would get it.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:16 PM (vFG9F) 124
"My hobby is MST3K references. The Master would not be pleased.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary" You would love my ringtone. It's Krankor laughing. Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F) 125
My mother used to sew/knit/crochet/make dolls, etc. She never seemed to make just one of anything, usually aiming for 20-50 in quantity. When we cleaned out that place, we thought we were done with the craft supplies after emptying the house, but as any good redneck can tell you, junk cars make for good storage...most of them were actually rat/mouse-proof. Not all, though. Fun.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:18 PM (vd6bO) 126
a piece of Bazooka gum, or just the wrapper from a piece
When did these things stop being "essential" to us? Posted by: Soothsayer I know, right! In corps school we were taught how to use the clear wrapper off a pack of cigarettes on a sucking chest wound! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:19 PM (z/7Ah) 127
That no springs video is so silly it's unforgettable
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:19 PM (Ia/+0) 128
"My hobby is MST3K references. The Master would not be pleased.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary" You would love my ringtone. It's Krankor laughing. Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F) MST3k is my version of the 3 Stooges. I never get tired of it. The missus, however, does. A lot of sighing. Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:21 PM (0aYVJ) 129
A lot of sighing
_-_ That's a good woman right there....some get to throwing things after a spell. Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vd6bO) 130
Mrs fd absolutely does not get MST3K. I wonder sometimes if she gets me.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vFG9F) 131
Mrs fd absolutely does not get MST3K. I wonder sometimes if she gets me.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vFG9F) Sometimes she'll quote something from MST, the Simpsons (the old ones), or Monty Python. And then she'll pause, and say, "what have you and the boys done to me?" Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:27 PM (0aYVJ) 132
I have Manos: The Hands of Fate and Santa Claus Comquers the Martians on DVD. It is a Christmas favorite in the Scary household
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (6p0Jv) 133
There's always a running loop-stream of MST3K episodes on Youtube. I've often piped it through the bluetooth and listen during my commutes. Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (DJUFe) 134
ft, spring-collecting is even funnier than string-collecting!
My own personal coup was a Louis Vuitton trunk that a neighbor put out as garbage. Spotted it on my morning run, which turned into a morning sprint home so I could get the car and go back for it! Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (PkCdJ) 135
I want to get the Torgo theme music for my phone.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (0aYVJ) 136
133 There's always a running loop-stream of MST3K episodes on Youtube. I've often piped it through the bluetooth and listen during my commutes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (DJUFe) ---------------------------------- PlutoTV has an MST3K channel (and a RiffTrax channel as well) Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 06, 2025 07:30 PM (OGOaV) 137
One last, and pleasant, thought. We put a twin bed in good condition on the curb. In a half hour a young mother stopped and asked if it was for sale. When told it was free she lit up. Her older boy, perhaps seven, was going to get his OWN BED. She almost had tears in her eyes. Knowing something we didn't need could be so appreciated was hugely satisfying.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 07:31 PM (yTvNw) 138
Pluto TV has channels for MST and Rifftrax. But, they seem to play the same ones for a long time before adding any more. And sometimes they feature the new MST, which is garbage (por ejemplo: Patton Oswalt) Blech. Very blech.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:32 PM (0aYVJ) 139
Mid 1980's my recently retired late father is taking his daily walk around his then sparsely populated Florida neighborhood and finds maybe 10 sheets of high quality 4 X 8 plywood on the side of the road. He comes back with his truck and as he's loading his plywood up comes a county sheriff, a lady deputy. She asks what he's doing, he tells her 'I found it'. She helps him load it into his truck and follows him to the sheriffs station.
They held it for 30, maybe 60 days. He'd go every week to make sure it was covered and undamaged. No one claimed it so they released it to him. He built a nice storage shed with it. Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 07:32 PM (QGaXH) 140
He and I hit the Waffle House on the way down. Waitress had a nose ring, but was absolutely effervescent. I was conflicted...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (nbLIj) ~~~~~ Some years ago I was in the hospital for a couple of days and a new night nurse walks in...spiked bright white hair, tattoos up and down both arms and an eyebrow piercing. I groaned internally but she turned out to be the absolute best nurse I've ever had. Posted by: IrishEi at December 06, 2025 07:33 PM (3ImbR) 141
I was new to their family, so I got the job of cleaning it out. Nobody else wanted to, since you never know what kind of stuff that belongs to a family member has memories that matter attached to it.
Posted by: Don in SoCo When the old lady next to me died (old man nice but passed years before) I had to check out the estate sale. Almost nothing of value. She purged all the man stuff over the few years since he passed, all that was left was a dilapidated house full of china dolls. Before the estate sale they haul off two construction dumpsters full of the even more worthless garbage. Guy that bought the house as-js hauled off three more. People running the estate said the good stuff was sold on line weeks ago. But they have to have the home estate sale with the leftovers. After a couple hours they were basically telling everybody. "Make any offer and it is yours." Yup, all that shit I wasted money on is going to the dump when I die. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 07:34 PM (/lPRQ) 142
Yeah, I am a scavenger. I don't prowl the curbsides, because I rarely see heaps of stuff. Used to routinely scavenge the metal pile and the tire pile at the local dump, until they banned scavenging. Once in a while, I will see something really worthwhile there, I will ask the attendant if I can snag it, and usually he's OK with it. On the tire pile, I will come in with some totally rotten tires, and frequently leave with one or two "rollers" to put under inoperable cars.
If I scrap something, I try to separate out the valuable metal scrap, and trash the worthless stuff. BTW, does anybody here know if scrap pot metal, (aka Zamak, or die-cast, or "white metal") can be melted down and cast into ingots, or something useful? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 07:34 PM (npFr7) 143
130 Mrs fd absolutely does not get MST3K. I wonder sometimes if she gets me.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vFG9F) She doesn't have to get your taste, so long as she gets you in all the right places, dear. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 07:36 PM (6Bc88) 144
Happy to see so many MST3K fans here. One of my favs, and a holiday tradition here.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 06, 2025 07:36 PM (3ImbR) 145
An after the sale 'garage sale had a large steel shed full of tools and 'metal'. I did buy anything , they priced it all like new.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:37 PM (z/7Ah) 146
The end of the school year in Madison WI is also known as "hippy Christmas." All the furniture and other items left on the curb are free to passers by. Makes for a damned mess of traffic downtown but nothing ends up in the landfill.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 07:37 PM (6Bc88) 147
Wow Trumpy, you can do magic things!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 07:38 PM (pkeXY) Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:40 PM (vFG9F) 149
Son and Daughter-in-law moved to rural Wyoming. One of visits i asked them why they save so much stuff, mostly pieces and scraps of stuff. He told me we live rural and you save everything you can, you never know when you'll need it. We moved here and he is right. Our landfill is actually fun to visit. They have different places for specific stuff, wood, metal, electronics, etc. People "shop" there first before going to stores. It's fun and saves people money. Posted by: fourseasons at December 06, 2025 07:40 PM (3ek7K) 150
tcn, did you feel the earthquake?
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (vFG9F) 151
Drill bits. For the zombie times.
Posted by: Eromero at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (LHPAg) 152
135 I want to get the Torgo theme music for my phone.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (0aYVJ) --- Here is 10 hours of it. Enjoy and Merry Christmas! https://tinyurl.com/485nut25 Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 07:42 PM (6p0Jv) 153
Drill bits. For the zombie times.
Posted by: Eromero at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (LHPAg) Good cross bow bolts. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 07:42 PM (snZF9) 154
One person's junk is another person's treasure.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:42 PM (sDNVV) 155
Happy to see so many MST3K fans here. One of my favs, and a holiday tradition here.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 06, 2025 07:36 PM (3ImbR) Rifftrax does a Yule Log episode, featuring Kevin's fireplace, a little TV and a speaker. the interrupt the fir to play snippets of numerous Christmas themed shorts. You can find that on Pluto TV. Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (0aYVJ) 156
TUBI has mst3k.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 07:49 PM (pkeXY) 157
BTW, does anybody here know if scrap pot metal, (aka Zamak, or die-cast, or "white metal") can be melted down and cast into ingots, or something useful?
_-_ Never tried, but seems like you could do that and wax-cast it into something...jacks....the legos of the 20th century (for your bare feet). Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:52 PM (vd6bO) 158
Solar flare mentioned earlier is starting to cause some excitement.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:53 PM (vd6bO) 159
My brother works at a landfill in NC. He is amazed how much good stuff people bring in. He's a good Ole country boy who will talk to any9ne so he always asks people why they are trashing stuff. The main reason is people are cleaning out relatives houses and they don't want the hassle of trying to sell the stuff. One young couple had boxes of antique toys. He loaded them in his truck and auctioned them off for hundreds of dollars. Wrought iron outside furniture is another frequently dumped item. He has sold a lot of that also. Posted by: fourseasons at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (3ek7K) 160
TRex, thank you for another great hobby thread
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (sDNVV) 161
My brother works at a landfill in NC. He is amazed how much good stuff people bring in.
_-_ One of my grandfathers bought by the truckload from a fella who ran the local dump - set up a shop downtown to resell the stuff..Dad always joked that we should get rid of anything we didn't want to see again at a different dump or Mom might buy it back. Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (vd6bO) 162
Solar flare mentioned earlier is starting to cause some excitement.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:53 PM (vd6bO) About an hour ago, I was browning some hamburger in the skillet to make a pot of chili. While that went on, I fired up the Zenith Transoceanic, and was getting good activity on all bands, even 16 meters. (So I have a good 1L6 in there!) I think this radio should have the selenium rectifier replaced. I was thinking full-wave diode bridge, and maybe a choke-input filter, to get real low-ripple DC. From my on-line reading you want 1.4 volts to the 1L6 filament, and no more. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (npFr7) Posted by: fourseasons at December 06, 2025 08:01 PM (3ek7K) 164
And I am going to go clean up my radio bench, speaking of hobby-related. It's damned cold here, will go below zero tonight for sure. It was only 2 degrees F this afternoon when I took my trash to the dump.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 08:03 PM (npFr7) 165
150 tcn, did you feel the earthquake?
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (vFG9F) No. It was down near Yakutat. About 400 miles east of here. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:03 PM (6Bc88) 166
We are having a wind storm, gusts into the 90 mph range in Palmer, not nearly so bad at our place. Wasilla is taking a beating. Roofs torn off, RVs tipped, wings ripped of light planes, trees down all over and of course the ice from last week making things just delightful for travel.
We are staying in, thanks. Haven't lost power but I have the wood stove burning just in case. Supposed to keep doing this through Monday. Ack. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:05 PM (6Bc88) 167
Luckily the Tug Bar posted that they are open for business, so in an emergency...
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:06 PM (6Bc88) 168
tcn
We got windy Thursday evening. Supposed to get seriously wet tomorrow through Wednesday. It’s always nice when the ground gets saturated and the wind kicks up. Posted by: nurse ratched at December 06, 2025 08:08 PM (mT+6a) 169
Hopefully not late enough to get myself banned from the blog. Cracked open a TRS Challenger 1400 earlier today. Somebody had let something nasty drip down the face, dissolving the paint as it went and rusting where it was allowed to pool.
So this one's going to be fun. Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 08:10 PM (lUFok) 170
In keeping with the them of the thread, I have a friend that does thematic posts on Facebook of all the curb alert finds he sees during his daily drives (furniture, appliances, plumbing fixtures{yes, toilets} and such. As for me, a friend just got me a gift certificate to Scale Hobbyist as a retirement gift and I was on their website shopping like old school Wheel of Fortune: okay, for $18 I'll take the X; for $27 I'll take Y and finally for $62 I'll take Z.
Posted by: Stacy0311 at December 06, 2025 08:59 PM (BfTZK) 171
Bench cleaning proceeds apace. Packed away an old desk lamp that had gone unused for several years, May make it an LED conversion project. Ditto the little Tensor "high-intensity" lamp. Remember those?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 09:31 PM (npFr7) Ace of Spaces Pet Thread, December 6![]() Courtesy Jack Jackson
![]() ![]() 16 year old Spot from the desk of "THE LORD PROTECTOR" the BIG "T"Spot looks like a lovely, healthy kitty! And still a hunter? ![]() ![]() ![]() This is Tillie my 14 yr old Dachshund/Mix that went to heaven on Nov 24th. I had rescued her back in 2011 after losing my beloved Chou/Mix Sierra quite unexpectedly. Sierra had been my angel and her sudden loss had left a huge hole in my heart. Tillie was only 10 months old when I adopted her and she quickly healed my heart. She was just a few months shy of her 15th birthday when she passed. Over the years she was quite a handful sometimes but I'd do it all over again just to have her back. She was around 1-2 yrs old in the first two photos and about 2-3 yrs old in the third photo. The second photo is her waiting for the squirrels to come down the trees (she loved chasing squirrels). Wish to remain a lurker. Thank you and keep up the great work.Tillie looks like a wonderful dog. So sorry that you have lost her, and also Sierra. The "waiting for squirrels" photo is endearing. Stay in touch. ![]() ![]() You asked about pet shelters. This is a small shed in the backyard I transformed into a stray cat shelter. I looked up instructions and followed them. Raised up off the ground. An ingress large enough for entry, but small enough to keep out the elements. Insulated with straw bales. It is shown with Sakura, who is the current stray yard khet. She isn't sold on it. And my hope is by feeding her near it, she will come to see it as a place to get out of the cold. Victor Tango KiloSakura may be a stray, but she's a pet. A lovely one. Encountered by Members of The Horde ![]() Parakeets taking a bath this morning on Broadway in Garland Texas! EromeroWere they noisy? ![]() Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today. If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:Until next Saturday, have a great week! If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, November 29 I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Amazing Horde Pets as always. I love them all.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 06, 2025 03:34 PM (ESVrU) 2
Petz!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 03:36 PM (Kt19C) 3
Afternoon, Pet Folken. Sakura looks like a longhaired beauty -- and regular food and keeping out of the weather will enhance her health.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 03:37 PM (wzUl9) 4
Happy Caturday everyone
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 03:42 PM (Ia/+0) 5
Paisley and I are settling into our new bachelor suite. It has a big window looking out onto the street. Paisley likes to sit on the bed, look out the window and bark at random shit.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 06, 2025 03:43 PM (8CIFn) 6
Lassie introduced the concept of "series reboots" to TV. Think about it. First there was Jeff Miller (Tommy Rettig), his mother (played in the first season by Cloris Leachman), and Gramps on their small farm. Then came Timmy Martin and his parents, his mother played by June Lockhart. Then came forest Ranger Corey Bray, a bachelor. There may have been another before the show was canceled in the late Sixties or early Seventies. Each time, Lassie continued, but her environment changed.
It's possible -- I don't remember -- but Timmy may have been shown actually passing Lassie on to ranger Bray when that reboot happened. And I've read that Timmy was never caught in a well in any episode. Jeff might have been, but somebody else will have to answer that. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 03:44 PM (wzUl9) 7
Big black Stirling is sleeping atop the back of the couch, on a blanket folded there for humans to use. Little gray Dagny is curled on my bed between the pillows, where she napped with me just now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 03:45 PM (wzUl9) 8
Too bad I can't figure out a way to share the short video I got of the visiting possum. It's large!
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 03:45 PM (+mUZM) 9
Love the pets. Lurker, condolences on the loss of Tillie and Sierra.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 03:47 PM (6p0Jv) 10
Hi guys,
I have updated our cat blog https://tinyurl.com/4k65zjkx I'm sorry to the lurker who lost Tillie. Sakura is quite a beautiful cat. I hope she stays safe. Spot is cute and I hope he keeps going for a lot more years. I do feel for that poor squirrel though. Posted by: Joyenz at December 06, 2025 03:48 PM (2F0/Y) 11
Petzzzzz
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 03:49 PM (6U1c2) 12
Afternoon, everyone. Just waiting for some ground beef to defrost so I can make meatloaf. My two pups are napping right now, but they'll be happy and awake once they smell the cooking.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 06, 2025 03:49 PM (ufSfZ) 13
Doggeh has such a sensitive tummy
Today is a bad poo day Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 03:49 PM (6U1c2) 14
I will stick to pure breed dogs from now on. At least I know what I'm getting into. I also need to stick to under 30-25 lbs.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 06, 2025 03:51 PM (VCgbV) 15
Tommy Rettig was later a software guy if memory serves. I dimly recall using a book of his when I was first learning dBASE.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 03:52 PM (q3u5l) 16
I got up from my desk to go check on Penny because I thought she was napping in my bedroom.
Turns out she's been sitting next to me at my desk this entire time. She's laying on a black towel, so she sort of blends into the background (she's a black kitty). I need to get my eyes checked again. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 06, 2025 03:54 PM (ESVrU) 17
Meow!
Some sad news. My co-workers cat had to be put down last night. Poor kittuh had a stroke and was blind and couldn't walk. Also, it had diabetes. An older cat. Still, very sad. I can't recall the kittuh's name but kittuh's staff member's name is Geoff. He's pretty shook up, even though he new this was coming at some point. Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 06, 2025 03:55 PM (sAmhv) 18
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 06, 2025 03:55 PM (sAmhv)
Poor kitty. Give our condolences to Geoff. Posted by: Joyenz at December 06, 2025 03:57 PM (2F0/Y) 19
Condolences to coworker Geoff. Always tough to lose a pet.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 03:58 PM (6p0Jv) 20
Poor cat. At least it's not in pain anymore.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 06, 2025 04:00 PM (ufSfZ) 21
Riddles hubby sent (answers are all breeds of dogs) and I need help with these 3:
1 - would sound like a musical instrument if you changed the first vowel sound from long E to long U? 2 - contains somewhere within it the consecutive letters -CHSH-? 3 - is an anagram of SOMEDAY? Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 04:01 PM (GhIJO) 22
The parakeets (Mrs.E says they’re Monks) were on a rest stop headed south. Bucky’s is a lot louder.
Posted by: Eromero at December 06, 2025 04:03 PM (pS4Fh) 23
And thanks, KT!
Posted by: Eromero at December 06, 2025 04:03 PM (pS4Fh) 24
Too bad about the squirrel. Is it playing possum?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 06, 2025 04:04 PM (w6S0H) Posted by: NR Pax at December 06, 2025 04:06 PM (7xrfc) 26
Number 3 is Samoyed
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 04:07 PM (sDNVV) 27
(That was for #3.)
#2: Dachshund Posted by: NR Pax at December 06, 2025 04:07 PM (7xrfc) 28
Heck, the cat PUSHED Timmy into the well.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 04:08 PM (kpS4V) 29
Dachshund
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 04:09 PM (sDNVV) 30
Greetings one and all. So over here, my boy Kroger is on restriction. He got a strain that was so bad, he can't walk very well. At least the vet told us that this was not osteo so we took some relief from that. But he's a bit annoyed that he's not allowed to jump around like he wants to.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 06, 2025 04:09 PM (7xrfc) 31
#1: Beagle
Posted by: NR Pax at December 06, 2025 04:11 PM (7xrfc) 32
Lily is mrrping and trilling for me to deploy the feather toy. I'm basically here to feed and entertain my feline overlord(-lady).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 04:11 PM (kpS4V) 33
Victor Tango Kilo, you are so thoughtful to provide shelter for stray kitties.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 04:12 PM (kpS4V) 34
Jan Clayton was Tommy Rettig's mother. Cloris Leachman was Timmy's first adoptive mother to be replaced by June Lockhart after one season.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 04:19 PM (pkeXY) 35
Tommy Rettig was later a software guy if memory serves. I dimly recall using a book of his when I was first learning dBASE.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 *** That's right -- when the acting gigs dried up, as they so often do for child actors, he reinvented himself. I understand he was very much attached to the Lassie he worked with on the show. I'd like to think he adopted a collie of his own later. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:20 PM (wzUl9) 36
Jan Clayton was Tommy Rettig's mother. Cloris Leachman was Timmy's first adoptive mother to be replaced by June Lockhart after one season.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 *** Oh, so Cloris came later? I was confused. Whitman's series of "TV adventures for young readers" had at least two Jeff & Lassie novels, and two Timmy & Lassie ones. I had and read them all. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:22 PM (wzUl9) 37
Heck, the cat PUSHED Timmy into the well.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 *** Just to see him splash! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:23 PM (wzUl9) 38
>>>One minute I'm telling my dog, "no, you can't have my bacon." Then he makes this face and I'm making him an omelette to go with it.
Ha ha! I had to leave my cat (The World's Most Beautiful Cat) with an uncatted relative once, and as I was explaining cat things face-to-face, and the cat was purring happily on my lap, the relative said, "Ew. Do you let it sit on you?" And my heart sank, and yet we continued, and my cat was rapidly winning over the relative, and within hours the relative said, "Do you think [cat's name] would like some warm milk?" Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:23 PM (RuTUS) 39
>>>waiting for the squirrels to come down the trees
Catching a glimpse of St. Francis at the base of the tree! Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:27 PM (RuTUS) 40
Puddleglum, I'm sorry to hear about your co-worker's feline friend. That's the tragedy, that we know their time will be shorter than ours, and they don't -- and we do our best to make that time a happy one.
If I were there, I'd tell your co-worker (though maybe not right away) to remember his buddy as he was, to honor him. Any whitewashing of his memory ("He was *always* a good cat! He never did anything wrong!") would be a disservice to him. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:27 PM (wzUl9) 41
I had to leave my cat (The World's Most Beautiful Cat) with an uncatted relative once, and as I was explaining cat things face-to-face, and the cat was purring happily on my lap, the relative said, "Ew. Do you let it sit on you?" And my heart sank, and yet we continued, and my cat was rapidly winning over the relative, and within hours the relative said, "Do you think [cat's name] would like some warm milk?"
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 *** I'v always said that Marie-Antoinette the smart black cat would have converted a cat hater. Big Arizona or Wolf? Probably not. Little Dagny might manage it. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:30 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:33 PM (RuTUS) 43
Our tortie cat charmed a family member who claims to not enjoy animals. Cat just jumped up in the lap of person and dared them to protest. Family member was actually pleased and giggling.. In a contest of strong-willed females, the cat wins.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 04:35 PM (6p0Jv) 44
Thanks so much for the many threads, K.T.!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:35 PM (RuTUS) 45
43 Our tortie cat charmed a family member who claims to not enjoy animals. Cat just jumped up in the lap of person and dared them to protest. Family member was actually pleased and giggling.. In a contest of strong-willed females, the cat wins.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 04:35 PM (6p0Jv) In my case, they were both females of their species, too! Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:41 PM (RuTUS) 46
Was the young Cloris Leachman a cutie?
The immortal words of June Lockhart are "Who do I have to fuck to get off this show?" Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:44 PM (W7XSX) 47
46 The immortal words of June Lockhart are "Who do I have to fuck to get off this show?"
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:44 PM (W7XSX) !!! Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:47 PM (RuTUS) 48
Lost in Space. Irwin Allen had a scene where June and the others were violently tossed is boat on body of water on a strange planet. It was so violent that June was battered and bruised.
Hence, the comment. Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:49 PM (W7XSX) 49
The immortal words of June Lockhart are "Who do I have to fuck to get off this show?"
Posted by: no one ---- And I thought it was spicy when Barbara Billingsley spoke jive in Airplane! Those TV moms had potty mouths. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 04:51 PM (6p0Jv) 50
Julie Andrews cursed like a sailor.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:53 PM (W7XSX) Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:54 PM (W7XSX) 52
young raccoons are so stinking cute. But then they grow up and become destructive trash pandas.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:00 PM (hhkIi) 53
A few times a week, my lawn gets a visit by a flock of white ibises like the one's pictured here:
http://tiny.cc/hn3w001 Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 05:03 PM (nbLIj) 54
We have a communal nest of 4 monk parakeets near our house in Queens. They chose a transformer box. The city seems to leave them alone as the nest has been there for years.
Feral monk parakeets are common. Posted by: Accomack at December 06, 2025 05:04 PM (8jVAy) 55
My old bloodhound-ish doggeh loved/hated young raccoons. Or old. He did not discriminate. We have memories of him front paws on tree and baying that bay.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:06 PM (6p0Jv) 56
CME headed our way? 20:39 UTC? Only a couple of places reporting it. Fake?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 05:09 PM (vd6bO) 57
We have a communal nest of 4 monk parakeets near our house in Queens. They chose a transformer box. The city seems to leave them alone as the nest has been there for years.
Feral monk parakeets are common. Posted by: Accomack at December 06, 2025 05:04 PM (8jVAy) Kentucky Fried Chicken > Queens Fried Parakeet.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 05:09 PM (nbLIj) 58
I've heard of those parakeet colonies in TX. They seem to be a city/suburb thing. Have never seen or heard one out in the sticks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:12 PM (6p0Jv) 59
My husband never had pets as a child. Our first pet was a male bouvier--120 pounds of dog. My mother-in-law couldn't understand why we bothered.
But she went from that to saying, "Water? That's all you give him?" to sneaking him pieces of her world-famous pizza when she thought we weren't looking. Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 05:12 PM (PkCdJ) 60
Julie Andrews cursed like a sailor.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:53 PM (W7XSX) --- Now I'm picturing the von Trapp family singing bawdy sea shanties. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 06, 2025 05:16 PM (ESVrU) 61
Clearly he was a coonhound Mary. Which brings back memories of listening to Jerry Clower tapes.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:16 PM (hhkIi) 62
Clearly he was a coonhound Mary. Which brings back memories of listening to Jerry Clower tapes.
Posted by: PaleRider --- Yep! A Bloodhound/Treeing Walker coonhound mix. I need to send pics for this thread. I haven't had the heart to yet. LOL on the Jerry Clower. Dad listened to him a lot. He was funny. Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:20 PM (6p0Jv) 63
Parakeets are considered a major ag crop pest and are generally hunted down.
City folk really want to live in a diorama. Posted by: Accomack at December 06, 2025 05:22 PM (8jVAy) 64
I had no idea parakeets could survive in the wild, let alone do well enough to become a crop pest.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:24 PM (hhkIi) 65
I had no idea parakeets could survive in the wild, let alone do well enough to become a crop pest. Posted by: PaleRider I've never seen one outside of a cage. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 05:36 PM (pkeXY) 66
59 My husband never had pets as a child. Our first pet was a male bouvier--120 pounds of dog. My mother-in-law couldn't understand why we bothered.
But she went from that to saying, "Water? That's all you give him?" to sneaking him pieces of her world-famous pizza when she thought we weren't looking. Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 05:12 PM (PkCdJ) ; ) Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (RuTUS) 67
Thank you, smart Morons!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (gDlxJ) 68
Like most invasive pests, parakeets probably have no natural predators.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 05:48 PM (zZu0s) 69
67 They're fun, vmom!
Thank you, smart Morons! Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (gDlxJ) 21 Riddles hubby sent (answers are all breeds of dogs) and I need help with these 3: 1 - would sound like a musical instrument if you changed the first vowel sound from long E to long U? 2 - contains somewhere within it the consecutive letters -CHSH-? 3 - is an anagram of SOMEDAY? Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 04:01 PM (GhIJO) Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:48 PM (RuTUS) Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (RuTUS) 71
Tillie was quite a beautiful animal. I’m glad you had so many good years with her. I love the picture of Tillie in your backyard! Such a charming oasis I hope you still live there. Wherever you are, the Lord goes with you.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at December 06, 2025 06:46 PM (S3aD9) 72
Thanks for all the kind comments about my catio last week, y'all. Sorry I was out of town and unable to respond to questions on that day, but in case anyone's still interested:
1. The window is the access point. It's a standard ground floor window, not a basement or garden window; it looks lower to the ground than it should be because our patio was added after we bought the house. But it's just our back kitchen window. We just open the window to let the cats out. 2. I don't know if the mesh screen filters out fleas. It's Phifer Pet Screen, which can be purchased at Home Depot. It's like a heavier-duty plastic mesh screen that can be used to repair screen doors and window screens, and is more resistant to pet claws than standard fiberglass mesh. I just got a 8-foot wide roll of it and cut a large piece that fit around the front and sides of the structure. The only reason for the screen is to keep the cats from getting out, as they are indoor cats and cannot be trusted to roam safely outdoors. There are coyotes and cars about. I'll see if I can get some nice pictures of the kitties to send in for a future thread. Posted by: Caiwyn at December 06, 2025 11:39 PM (0mzVh) Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Dec. 6![]() Not a lot happening hee in the chilly DMV but I do have two spots of color. My Encore Azalea has not disappointed. Not a lot of blossoms but it's been in the thirties and I am still getting new buds and blossoms. Edible Gardening/Putting Things By More from 58Mikie! (remember our special feature two weeks ago?) Consumption of Hazelnuts is very healthy....high in folic acid for pregnant women, second highest nut in mono-unsaturated oil. The nut is high in oil but the good oil, (like an avocado or olive oil) which really does help reduce cholesterol. Please see photos attached. The book is really good for Hazelnut recipes...tough to scan the pages on my scanner, but it is available on Amazon and I saw there was a listing for a "very good" used edition for $ 1.99....the Hazelnut salad recipe with broccoli is very good...once roasted Hazelnuts can be made into "butter" with a nut grinder like in stores or I think a Cuisinart type device.
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If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker. In addition to other updates, The famous Pat* and her husband have a row of Blue Spruce big enough for Christmas trees. Ahyone else? I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (Ia/+0) 2
https://tinyurl.com/yc6fp6a3
This is a picture of the Christmas grave wreaths a few of us made this year. It's a yearly tradition in the family to make wreaths for passed family members. It's only 4 of us now but hopefully will continue for years to come. Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (Ia/+0) 3
lovely photos as usual! My Christmas Cactus is blooming as well, had a photo of it posted here last year. Looked some stuff up and learned that their blooming date is set by a steady progression of diminishing hours of sunlight; so gardeners who are on top of things can manipulate the light so that they bloom at a very specific time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK8) 4
Also, as of yesterday, though had many cold mornings and frost and snow, the Anaheim peppers plants in my mini greenhouse are still growing, not doing anything else but amazed cold hasn't killed them yet.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:43 PM (Ia/+0) 5
You can get oil out of hazelnuts too. All it takes is a Corona grain mill.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 01:47 PM (+mUZM) 6
I just picked up a white bloomed Christmas cactus yesterday. Today, I decided to deal with my oldest plant. It was still in the original pot. I'd put it on top of another pot, with a planted bulb, and the roots grew down into it. I managed to cut away the old pot and flipped some potting soil into my eye doing it. Got my eye cleared out but may have to move the plant to a bigger pot.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 02:00 PM (+mUZM) 7
I have a small polyantha rose, "Verdun", that put out a few flowers just before this last cold spell. They're a bright pink/mauve color, and really stand out now that everything else is gone!
Posted by: Lirio100 at December 06, 2025 02:01 PM (ky7/T) 8
Skip, the Christmas wreaths are lovely! Each one is unique, but they are all beautiful.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 06, 2025 02:01 PM (FMtrg) 9
Wacky computer stuff today. Sorry.
Posted by: KT at December 06, 2025 02:06 PM (7vIsy) 10
We're licking our wounds from the last summer, and planning next year's garden.
Only the peppers thrived. We have enough ancho, smoked and regular paprika, chipotle, and green chili that we don't need any but fresh peppers next year. We're deficient in tomato products. Sweet tates did fine. Butternut did fine. Should be peak asparagus next spring, Posted by: MkY at December 06, 2025 02:08 PM (q6tQZ) 11
More on hazelnut in the wings for next week. Got any recipes of your own?
Posted by: KT at December 06, 2025 02:17 PM (7vIsy) 12
Afternoon everybody
Happy to report that my Encore Azalea survived the snow yesterday. The terrace today looks like it never happened. There are pansies everywhere in the planters scattered all over Bethesda covered with snow. I always wonder how they survive an entire winter. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 06, 2025 02:20 PM (t/2Uw) 13
When I first looked at that salad, I thought it was a bowl of tomatoe soup. Favorite winter meal: tomato soup with croutons( has to have croutons) and a grilled cheese sandwich on sour dough.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 06, 2025 02:23 PM (t/2Uw) 14
Deez nutz roasting on an open fire...
Posted by: Not quite Nat King Cole at December 06, 2025 02:24 PM (TbWk/) 15
Speaking of Baker Creek, just ordered a couple new varieties of maters: Black Strawberry (thanks Miley), Chocolate Miracle, and Alice's Dream.
Also pink celery and black carrots. I like the oddballs. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 02:25 PM (kpS4V) 16
Hope this growing season is better than last year's. Too much fluctuation in temps and precipitation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 02:28 PM (kpS4V) 17
And by last year, I meant this year.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 02:28 PM (kpS4V) 18
Maryland has such weird weather. Out west it's basically Pennsylvania, but out east you can have mild winters or killer ice storms. And Japanese beetles are a crapshoot.
Thank goodness the summer stinkbug swarms and river floods are dependable. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 02:32 PM (kpS4V) 19
I have a Christmas cactus that isn't doing too well although the other one is growing. Thought I would propagate from the poorer one with leaf cuttings. Anyone tried this and how did it do?
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:33 PM (yTvNw) 20
From Boise area: lows 21-36 F, highs 39-45. Some rain.
We bottled a 3rd batch of cider - just four 6-packs per batch, as we're doing many trial batches to see what we like best. We finished shredding leaves from our huge silver maple. I raked leaves out of the front drainage ditches. We cut the leaves off some of the Siberian Irises. I went to a ladies' "Favorite Things" exchange last night - bring four of something (under $10), display it all, ladies take numbers - first and third rounds in numerical order, second and fourth rounds in reverse order, one pick per round. Everyone takes home four things. Among my loot is an amaryllis bulb, so I'll be looking forward to watching it grow. Posted by: Pat* at December 06, 2025 02:34 PM (tiz3J) 21
Pat* what sort of changes are you doing to your cider? Different mixes of apples, or different yeast?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:38 PM (rbvCR) 22
That video of the time lapse mushrooms is fascinating. So much variety and such weird shapes. A few made me think of something from a Lovecraft story. No wonder Beatrix Potter used mushrooms in so many of her botanical drawings.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:39 PM (yTvNw) 23
My task for today is to chop up a sweet-meat Hubbard squash so I can blanche and freeze it. This is the big one that grew almost unnoticed in one of the tomato cages.
Sweet Meats are grey and pretty tough, so I have developed the technique of taking them down to manageable sizes in the back yard with a machete. Inelegant, but effective. I am always worried about slipping when I am cutting squash apart with a knife, the durned things tend to twist and slither away. Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:44 PM (rbvCR) 24
you propagate Christmas cactus by taking those leaf segments and plant them in dirt, and keep them warmish and moist. My wife does this all the time, and my Mom used to do it too.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:48 PM (rbvCR) 25
KT, since terra preta came up in the thread below, does anyone have any information on using charcoal in their gardens?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:49 PM (rbvCR) 26
Just went out and planted some garlic in an old container in the back yard. Lousy potatoes from it a couple of years ago. Rainy, 40°, a little snow expected.
We'll look again in the RI spring when it comes. Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 02:49 PM (sl73Y) 27
I have a Christmas cactus that isn't doing too well although the other one is growing. Thought I would propagate from the poorer one with leaf cuttings. Anyone tried this and how did it do?
Posted by: JTB ------- Never done it, myself. Good luck! "The Spruce" has some info: tinyurl.com/s85yrx8c Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:49 PM (rdVOm) 28
24 ... Kindltot,
Thanks. I figured that would be the case but never tried it with Christmas cacti. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:52 PM (yTvNw) 29
Bought a plant light to try for indoor plants but experiment isn't working too well
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 02:53 PM (Ia/+0) 30
27 ... Thanks to JQ as well about the Christmas Cactus. Think I'll try both ways.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:56 PM (yTvNw) 31
I have a hanging ivy plant of some kind in the den, been doing fine for 25+ years. But its hung seven feet up, i reach to water from an old tea pot, and it has never been repotted.
What the hell does the root ball look like. Andcould, should anything ever be done. Shoots go out fifteen feet and I just tuck thenm around the curtain rods with the others when they hang to low and start entering the printer. And why do they always do that? Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 02:58 PM (sl73Y) 32
Picked up my Poinsettias today, and should you see them, you would ask why the heck there are orange peels sitting on top of the soil of each.
My cat would explain, "Because he's a bastard and doesn't want me vomiting all over the house." Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 03:00 PM (dIske) 33
29 Bought a plant light to try for indoor plants but experiment isn't working too well
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 02:53 PM (Ia/+0) __________________________ Find a stoner and get some tips. Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 03:02 PM (dIske) 34
Thanks for the Christmas cactus reminder. I promised my granddaughters a plant. I know I've taken cuttings and done this but it's been a while.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 06, 2025 03:05 PM (t/2Uw) 35
Orson was thinking same thing.
I think you need like 500 of them Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 03:07 PM (Ia/+0) 36
I do know, if the Christmas cactus gets too dry, it will drop leaves, which put out roots if it hits soil. Should be easy to get a start.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 03:20 PM (+mUZM) 37
I did notice that the garlic I planted is growing! I can see growth peaking through the straw.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 03:21 PM (+mUZM) 38
18 degrees out there today, but in the midst of a wind storm. So far the peak is only 26 mph, but it is making Ruby nervous so she's been pacing since about 5 a.m. Broke one of the flag posts clean off, and we had to deflate our giant Christmas decorations outside. A real tragedy.
Meanwhile, the orange and lemon trees I bought are now about 2 feet tall, loving the heat from the TOYO. They didn't do much in the greenhouse this summer. Maybe they are just indoor plants. I consider them a bit of a lark. Doubt I will ever get them to fruit up here. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 03:34 PM (6Bc88) 39
@Kindltot #21 Pat* asked me to answer since I'm the brewmaster.
We are varying both yeast and apple mix, plus some other experiments: Three different yeasts: MA33 (our usual), Windsor, and Nottingham (both usually for ales) using same apples Two different apple mixes - both using our usual Golden Delicious base but mixing in different tart/sour apples - Jonathan vs. Golden Russet A few experiments to come, mixing various adjuncts with small batches of our 'original recipe': holiday spice, pear juice, Nelson Sauvin hops, maybe some raspberry syrup. And a small batch spiked with sugar to get to 11% ABV, and current aging in a small ex-bourbon cask. There's still four gallons stashed in the freezer, but I'm out of my mixing apples so those may stay there until next year since the trees usually have an off year after bearing so heavily. Posted by: Pat*'s Hubbie at December 06, 2025 06:18 PM (tiz3J) Why THIS Story NOW?![]() Burns’ latest PBS six-episode documentary, The American Revolution, explores the founding of the United States and the subsequent war with the British Empire. It could have been an excellent start to the upcoming celebration of America’s 250th anniversary of the founding, but sadly, it steers away from celebration and emphasizes both explicit and implicit criticism of the Founders. Within the first five minutes of the first episode, we are told that the Founders (specifically Benjamin Franklin) used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary. Franklin frequently commented on the lives of Native Americans, but we have to be careful how we evaluate Franklin’s words on the subject. He was famously satirical, whether he spoke about the British, Americans, or Indians. In a letter to James Parker, dated 20 March 1751, Franklin writes, It would be a very strange Thing, if six Nations of ignorant Savages should be capable of forming a Scheme for such an Union, and be able to execute it in such a Manner, as that it has subsisted Ages, and appears indissoluble; and yet that a like Union should be impracticable for ten or a Dozen English Colonies, to whom it is more necessary, and must be more advantageous; and who cannot be supposed to want an equal Understanding of their Interests.Concerning Benjamin Franklin and satire, I just read somewhere that the Founders didn't allow Franklin to write the Declaration of Independence because they thought he might include a joke in it somewhere. Concerning Ken Burns, we do not need another oppressor-oppressed dialectic at this time. After watching the entire series, Burns’ objective is to claim that principles played no role in the founding of the United States. Rather, it was based on low self-interest. But this creates a contradiction for Burns and his co-directors. One does not speak of liberty and yearning for it unless one has experienced tyranny. Tyranny creates destructive conditions for an individual, be it existentially, economically, or politically. As historian Bernard Bailyn says in the documentary, the creation of the United States is about the “struggles between the possibilities of power and liberty.” It still is. It would have behooved the filmmakers to include a few philosophical points about what the American mind truly is. And why the Americans have loved liberty and limited power.Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches? Compare to the principles made clear in Sullivan Ballou's letter from the Ken Burns Civil War epic. There are versions of the letter floating around in which the part of Sullivan Ballou's letter to his wife concerning the future growth of their sons into "honorable manhood" has been removed. Could not upset The Left with a reference to "Manhood" once "gender" became an issue. Watch on YouTube
So, when and why did this really become a national issue?
The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist. The The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist. The Democrats chose their latest cause: standing up for Venezuela’s narco-terrorist regime. They advanced a novel “legal” theory, that it is perfectly OK to kill drug dealers in the Caribbean by blowing up their boat, but only if you do it in a single explosion. Makes perfect sense, just like how we fought World War II. But the biggest story of the week was corruption in Minnesota–billions stolen from taxpayers, mostly by Somalis, under the somnolent eye of Governor Tim Walz. Actually, that was the big story of 2022, but better late than never. We welcome the national press to the fray, and have participated enthusiastically in their reprise of the stories we have been writing for years. ![]() Largo, Second Movement Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: alpine_beer at December 06, 2025 11:22 AM (van9r) 2
Unlike Burn's Civil War Documentary, I think only a relative handful of people are paying any attention to this one. Most likely due to the collapse in the numbers of those who tune in to PBS over the last couple of decades.
Oh, they'll still get all the Righteous and Faithful who will swear that it is Holy Doctrine, and they control the pages of the NYT - but not many people are really paying attention to them, either. Not anymore. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:26 AM (uWKK8) 3
After watching the entire series, Burns’ objective is to claim that principles played no role in the founding of the United States. Rather, it was based on low self-interest.
I was wondering if he would go all 1619 on us. He did. FOAD. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:29 AM (Riz8t) 4
Good morning KT
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:33 AM (Ia/+0) 5
Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
At the Bicentennial, there were a whole bunch of community cookbooks to celebrate it. Ill be releasing my own Sestercentennial Cookery (one TexasMoMe attendee got a one-off AOSHQ ashcan in October) in January. But what about a second AOSHQ cookbook, with not just heritage recipes but also Moronic history lessons and other revolutionary advice? Im thinking Junior Moron Guidebook; I think we have a lot of historical writers here on the HQ as well as other practical writers that might be able to contribute one-page or one-paragraph essays related to American history. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 11:34 AM (EXyHK) 6
Question:
Who TF died and made Ken Burns the expert on US history? When I first heard he was going to 'do' the American Revolution, I could sense his deconstruction of it coming a mile away. Ken Burns is a sawed-off leftist prick, and we should pay him no mind. Posted by: Don Black at December 06, 2025 11:35 AM (ZxPkt) 7
Burns is obsessed with the nobility of the Black Man! He will do anything to tear down the institutions that he thinks enslaved him or kept him servile (baseball).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2025 11:36 AM (GLocS) 8
This little charmer from a (claims to be Somalian) X account:
"...after close to a century of attacking Islam they’ve never been successful. Their plans to demonize and vilify Islam have never worked. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. --You can never defeat a people who only fear Allah.--" Pulling them off the gubmint tit won't be pretty...and that's just the politicians. Then comes the millions of newly arrived gimmegrants from sheitholes that hate us. Posted by: ju at December 06, 2025 11:36 AM (EgpoY) 9
I guess it's a good thing that PBS can't survive without taxpayer money, otherwise we'd all be paying for this.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t) 10
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 11:34 AM (EXyHK)
Nag Ace. We are all set and ready to go with a second edition, but would prefer his okay. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2025 11:37 AM (GLocS) 11
Ken Burns is, was and always will be an Ass Head.
Why anyone watches his anti-white, anti-American and anti-truth propaganda nonsense is beyond me. Posted by: Zombie Leni Riefenstahl at December 06, 2025 11:37 AM (R/m4+) 12
>>> Within the first five minutes of the first episode, we are told that the Founders (specifically Benjamin Franklin) used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary.
Yes, Franklin only credits the Iroquois for inspiring the idea of banding together in a confederacy of shared interests. He has no western influences to draw on...like the Greeks or the Swiss. Nope, Indians only! It is to laugh. Ken Burns luckily has faded in relevancy. Who cares about him anymore? The only threat this documentary has is if it's shown in high schools to young skulls full of mush, who are too uneducated to be critical thinkers yet, and don't realize it's all bogus info. Thats where the danger happens. Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:38 AM (gWBY1) 13
Ken Burns?
Isn't he the guy that played “Feels So Good” in '77? LOL - Well, that's who he looks like to me. Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 11:39 AM (cYBz/) Posted by: NYC Refugee Since 1988 at December 06, 2025 11:39 AM (oftw2) 15
What Key is Largo in?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:39 AM (pkeXY) 16
Does Burns still have that goofy haircut?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 06, 2025 11:40 AM (L9Jmf) 17
Ken Burns is, was and always will be an Ass Head.
Why anyone watches his anti-white, anti-American and anti-truth propaganda nonsense is beyond me. He kind of restrained himself in The Civil War. That was before he was famous and could let his freak flag fly. Now, it's "I hate whitey". He blends right in at PBS. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:40 AM (Riz8t) 18
Saw but a long trailer on Ken Burns Propaganda 6 part miniseries. But watched a couple hours of videos taking down Ken's Propaganda miniseries.
Actually best wasn't as much as taking apart as what Ken's Propaganda didn't say. The synopsis the video said was it was about the war, not the Revolution. Besides all the Propaganda filled war, was about nothing the Revolution was about. Nothing hardly on the Constitution they fought for, the Bill of Rights they fought for. Just a lot of what Ken wanted it to be for which wasn't historically correct. I might be able to find that video but can't be sure to find it. Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:41 AM (Ia/+0) 19
The only threat this documentary has is if it's shown in high schools to young skulls full of mush, . . .
Posted by: LizLem We need the likes of Professor Houseman once again. Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 11:41 AM (cYBz/) Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 11:42 AM (cYBz/) 21
Ken Burns lost his virginity to his mommy's black maid, who was then fired for stealing the silver.
He has felt guilty ever since! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2025 11:42 AM (GLocS) 22
Ken Burns or Howard Zinn. What a choice!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:43 AM (pkeXY) 23
It will be interesting to contrast the upcoming "Young Washington" movie with Burns' agitprop.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:44 AM (Riz8t) 24
>>> But what about a second AOSHQ cookbook, with not just heritage recipes but also Moronic history lessons and other revolutionary advice?
That could be fun! I've made George Washington's favorite cornbread recipe and it's really good. Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:45 AM (gWBY1) 25
Her Majesty and The Big Dummy have set off on their trip. I love my wife, but by the time she leaves I'm ready for her to be gone for three weeks. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 11:46 AM (tgvbd) 26
Ken Burns is the Howard Zinn of PBS.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 11:47 AM (W7XSX) 27
We need the likes of Professor Houseman once again. Posted by: Tonypete John Houseman reads the phone book: https://youtu.be/S_LA4gJeCio Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:49 AM (pkeXY) 28
https://tinyurl.com/2z2xv4rn
Bit as said think I did a good quick synopsis on his video Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:49 AM (Ia/+0) 29
There's speculation that the Somali fraud will approach much more than the $1 billion being reported.
More like $8 billion. Or more. And, yea, Walz and many MN state/federal politicos are in on it. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (NwnyJ) 30
My mom was surprised I wouldn't want to watch a nice history of the Revolution
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (Ia/+0) 31
That could be fun! I've made George Washington's favorite cornbread recipe and it's really good.
Posted by: LizLem Doesn't dry, old cornbread stick to wooden teef? Posted by: Affordable Dentures, Inc. at December 06, 2025 11:52 AM (oftw2) 32
Reportedly, the cocaine street prices in Europe have gone up by a quarter to a third. This is hurting someone or someones bigly.
The Dutch navy has been patrolling the Dutch Antilles and waters off Suriname for 20 years, boarding and sinking the drug couriers, and have not been able to make this much of a dent in the supply. I have heard speculations that if the drug trade out of South America were ended, it might collapse some countries' economies Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:52 AM (rbvCR) 33
My mom was surprised I wouldn't want to watch a nice history of the Revolution
To which the correct response is "when they make one, I will". Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (Riz8t) 34
Thing of State Fraud is the fraud is shoveled out by state bureaucracy who earns lots of salary and no doubt bonuses how much they can shovel out.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (Ia/+0) 35
we do not need another oppressor-oppressed dialectic at this time.
Oh, honey chile, that just shows how badly we need reeducation camps in this so-called country. Posted by: Jasmine C. from Dallas at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (0sNs1) 36
That could be fun! I've made George Washington's favorite cornbread recipe and it's really good.
Im making Thomas Jeffersons beans & rice for tonight, and its making the house smell ridiculously good. Ill bet that cornbread would be great with it. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (EXyHK) 37
Ken Burns is the Howard Zinn of Herbert Marcuses.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (W7XSX) 38
If the gop cuts $1B spending they’re the worst monsters on earth.
Somalia steal $1B, what the big deal guys? Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (wrRTB) 39
But the biggest story of the week was corruption in Minnesota–billions stolen from taxpayers, mostly by Somalis, under the somnolent eye of Governor Tim Walz.
Somalis are all over X explaining how wonderful Somalia is. It's just that they don't want to live there. And, of course, you have Minnesota AWFLs on X (who probably live in lily-white small towns) explaining what wonderful neighbors the Somalis are. Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 06, 2025 11:54 AM (xTIDn) 40
That could be fun! I've made George Washington's favorite cornbread recipe and it's really good.
I'd say you should try his rye whiskey, but I've had his rye whiskey. Bleccchhhh. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:54 AM (Riz8t) 41
Ken Burns is the Howard Zinn of Herbert Marcuses.
Ken Burns is the Lloyd Christmas of Moe Howards. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:55 AM (Riz8t) 42
Problem with Ken Burns is 20 or 30 years from now it will be THE truth. Like if you say it’s nonsense that Indians wrote the constitution people will say no it’s true, the great historian Ken Burns did a show on it and everything.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 11:56 AM (wrRTB) 43
To which the correct response is "when they make one, I will".
Allen Guelzos Americas Founding Fathers was quite good. I dont think its ever been aired on TV, though. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 11:56 AM (EXyHK) 44
Could not upset The Left with a reference to "Manhood" once "gender" became an issue.
---- As a power lesbian, Ken Burns felt particularly targeted by such engorged speech. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 11:56 AM (kpS4V) 45
Burns' Civil War completely ignored the religious revival that was happening at the same time. I finished an annotated diary and collected letters of an Illinois volunteer who was in the Army of the West, and he speaks regularly about camp meetings and church services.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:56 AM (rbvCR) 46
Allen Guelzo’s America’s Founding Fathers was quite good. I don’t think it’s ever been aired on TV, though.
Agreed, and I actually saw it, but can't remember where. Possibly Netflix? Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (Riz8t) 47
Take out the Cat Ballou letter from his "The Civil War" series and Burns would have had have nothing special. He's a nullity who is flying above his clearance level. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (f0f+R) 48
Breaking News: Famous astronaut Katy Perry and distinguished Canadian political figure Justin Trudeau are now an official couple!
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (0sNs1) 49
Take out the Cat Ballou letter from his "The Civil War" series and Burns would have had have nothing special.
He's a nullity who is flying above his clearance level. No, I don't agree with that. Between the music, Shelby Foote, and what was at the time a revolutionary way of presenting a documentary, it was quite good (IMHO). You could tell, though, that he had to fight the urge to make it all a polemic about the evil white man. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:59 AM (Riz8t) 50
And, yea, Walz and many MN state/federal politicos are in on it. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (NwnyJ) ____________ My guess: this will not be pursued vigorously because nobody wants to know how bad and so widespread it really is. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 12:01 PM (tgvbd) 51
Apparently many of the whistleblowers on MN's mega-corruption are in fact from state agencies, and much of the digging/reporting has been done by actual local journalists. For years.
It's actually a pretty stark (if redundant) illustration of how normal, good things and people still exist across the country, even in the worst-run places - but the de facto blackout on information by MSM and the indolence of Congress, supplemented by collaboration by key federal agencies (except during the black swan Trump periods), conceal such mega-scandals from most of the public. Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 12:02 PM (U/Byj) 52
If Somalia is so great when Trump deports their asses they should be delighted to return to the homeland. Right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 12:02 PM (wrRTB) 53
I had a history teacher at UH who loved all the woke tropes, and this was the late 80's. So I heard that Iroquois Confederact thing. Also, Cleopatra was black, and other shite.
But, he was a very engaging speaker and did point out that the Aztecs were an imperialist power who engaged in a bit of cannibalism to boost the protein content of their food. It was a fun class if you already read a lot of history and took his words with a bag of salt. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 12:04 PM (kpS4V) 54
12 >>> Within the first five minutes of the first episode, we are told that the Founders (specifically Benjamin Franklin) used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary.
Yes, Franklin only credits the Iroquois for inspiring the idea of banding together in a confederacy of shared interests. He has no western influences to draw on...like the Greeks or the Swiss. Nope, Indians only! It is to laugh. Posted by: LizLem ======= Ben proposed a unified colonial structure to deal with the British Empire during the midst of the French and Indian War in a meeting of colonies. Here are some original sources directly from the NY Historical Society (meeting occurred in Albany NY 1754) His later colonial agency to the Crown as a lobbyist for the colonies also played into his interest in the matter later. https://tinyurl.com/k4mm3a68 Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:06 PM (WDjG6) 55
Breaking News: Famous astronaut Katy Perry and distinguished Canadian political figure Justin Trudeau are now an official couple!
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (0sNs1) And didn't think Justin liked girls. Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 06, 2025 12:06 PM (L9Jmf) 56
Watch 1776 and April Morning, will get more history from those movies than Ken Burns' 'documentary.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 06, 2025 12:06 PM (e2cjy) 57
>>> Breaking News: Famous astronaut Katy Perry and distinguished Canadian political figure Justin Trudeau are now an official couple!
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (0sNs1) This is not the "suck it, Orlando!" Flex she thinks it is. Apparently her ex was pursuing Sydney Sweeney at the Bezos wedding. Why pine for Perry's two fjords when you could have Sydney's? She tried to buy a convent in LA and the nuns there were fighting against the sale. Apparently the stress of it killed one of them. I never heard who eventually bought the property. But I hope it's not some satanic worshipper after being such holy ground. Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 12:07 PM (gWBY1) 58
In middle school I had a history teacher tell us how Indians invented some kind of farming technique. Also something about them discovering strawberries 12 year old me had no clue that he was full of shit. I figured it out later.
But I’d bet 75% of the class still believes it (assuming they paid attention in class to begin with). This is how the left wields its power in education. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 12:08 PM (wrRTB) 59
In middle school I had a history teacher tell us how Indians invented some kind of farming technique.
Burying a fish at the base of each corn plant? Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:11 PM (Riz8t) 60
used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary.
At the time, the Iroquois didn't have a written language. Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 06, 2025 12:11 PM (xTIDn) 61
Agreed, and I actually saw it, but can't remember where. Possibly Netflix?
I got it from one of those Great Courses catalog sales about a year ago. I used to get them all the time, but havent received one in probably over a year now. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (EXyHK) 62
In middle school I had a history teacher tell us how Indians invented some kind of farming technique.
Ummmmm. . . . pooping in the garden. Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (cYBz/) 63
Shamans vs Antibiotics - who you gonna trust?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (NBPRu) 64
If Somalia is so great when Trump deports their asses they should be delighted to return to the homeland. Right?
Minnesota is full of Somalis who are allegedly here because they would be killed in Somalia who periodically return to Somalia on vacation. Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (xTIDn) Posted by: Anna Puma at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (e2cjy) 66
"And, of course, you have Minnesota AWFLs on X (who probably live in lily-white small towns) explaining what wonderful neighbors the Somalis are."
One would think Somalis could at least pretend to be wonderful neighbors, while they are stealing billions from us. I have no idea what their US neighborhoods are really like ... probably 10X better than Somalia. Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (vbXSk) 67
53 I had a history teacher at UH who loved all the woke tropes, and this was the late 80's. So I heard that Iroquois Confederact thing. Also, Cleopatra was black, and other shite.
Posted by: All Hail Eris ======== Academia got into thing where the latest fad became a contest to see how outrageous one could be in assertions rather than the actual and rather dull accumulation of knowledge. The strange, queer, and atypical was the ticket to getting published and grants so that became what academia favored. Add in leftist capture of the institution, you basically got a leftist version of Ripley's Believe It or Not where all the villians were of pallor and wealth and all the various imagined oppressed groups were the true heroes of history. Add in conspiracy based crap on no evidence, then you get Cleopatra had to be black as did Jesus, or even the nutty sun people versus whitey promoted by Hakeem Jeffries uncle Leonard. Denialism of accepted historical explanations backed by documented original sources and derivative secondary ones and archaelogical evidence became the norm. White guilt is one of the most destructive things promoted by neo marxists to destroy the West. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (WDjG6) 68
65 Katy Perry did win a lawsuit against an aging veteran to get his mansion.
Stay classy Katy. Posted by: Anna Puma ------- I would prefer she stays in Canada and keeps up with Justin Trudeau. They deserve each other. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:14 PM (WDjG6) 69
I think Sullivan Ballou's letter may tell us more about the principles behind the American Revolution that Ken Burns' new series. And the music they put with it really fits.
Posted by: KT at December 06, 2025 12:15 PM (7vIsy) 70
62 In middle school I had a history teacher tell us how Indians invented some kind of farming technique.
Ummmmm. . . . pooping in the garden. Posted by: Tonypete ===== Ecclesiastes nothing new under the sun comes to mind here and mainly sells because Colleges of Education admit some of the lowest performing students on campus and then fill their heads full of rubbish. These students then become teachers spouting rubbish to the students who promptly internalize the rubbish themselves and then proceed to build their own rubbish heaps in their minds. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:17 PM (WDjG6) 71
"Burying a fish at the base of each corn plant?"
We all seemed to have learned that in 5th grade. Probably urban legend. If they had that many fish, they should have eaten the fish rather than the possible ear of corn months later. Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 12:18 PM (vbXSk) 72
I did read how South American Indians developed a kind of living soil made from burnt plant and animal matter, plus pottery shards and of course poop from various sources, that they would use in farming plots since the soil of the jungles was, oddly enough, so deficient.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 12:19 PM (kpS4V) 73
Katy was in the McLaren garage at the F-1 qualifying this morning
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:19 PM (Ia/+0) 74
Matt Walsh does a long take down of Ken's Propaganda inserts
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:22 PM (Ia/+0) 75
It can be lunch time, but then it's Saturday
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:23 PM (Ia/+0) 76
69 I think Sullivan Ballou's letter may tell us more about the principles behind the American Revolution that Ken Burns' new series. And the music they put with it really fits.
Posted by: KT Liberty! The American Revolution by noted historian Thomas Fleming is the far better bet. History Channel when it actually had history used to run that series over and over again. Better yet, actually read many of Thomas Fleming's historical works (or his historical fiction where he doesn't make up key historical events nor facts if that is your cup of tea). One of the most thorough eviscerations of FDR and his WWII performance is in Fleming's The New Dealer's War book. Unlike Schlaes who tends toward the polemic, Fleming admits he began the project being favorable toward FDR and his legacy but the historical evidence he uncovered of FDR's nasty/vicious personality and his minions ideology over practicality changed his mind when writing the book. His book on Washington's Fabian tactics to win the Revolutionary War is also quite excellent. Basically his political opponents to his strategy wanted to rerun Bunker Hill over and over again. Washington, after the NYC debacle, declined. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:23 PM (WDjG6) 77
I have an in-law, a white person, publicly declaim that she was tired of white people. Sure thing, dearie. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 06, 2025 12:26 PM (xG4kz) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 12:27 PM (Cjt/F) 79
72 I did read how South American Indians developed a kind of living soil made from burnt plant and animal matter, plus pottery shards and of course poop from various sources, that they would use in farming plots since the soil of the jungles was, oddly enough, so deficient.
Posted by: All Hail Eris Heavy rains tend to wash out the key ingredients of biomass. Even in the US, many areas of primeval forests actually had a thin layer of fertile soil over rocky or clay soils that needed biomass to become fertile for crops. That decline in soil fertility from continuous crop cultivation and erosion of the humus was in part drove Western expansion from the Eastern colonies by farmers. A few wise farmers, like George Washington did crop rotations, allowing animals to graze the stubble and poop, and other practices to keep the soil fertile but most simply sold up back east to buy new fresh land in the West. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:28 PM (WDjG6) 80
Tim Pool claims his house was shot at by an unknown gunman who approached his property in a vehicle.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 06, 2025 12:30 PM (Y1sOo) 81
Eris, the Amazon Indians are descended from Polynesian and Australia. They are the ones that knew how to enrich sandy soil. DNA has confirmed the Kon Tiki story.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 06, 2025 12:31 PM (NBPRu) 82
"Burying a fish at the base of each corn plant?"
We all seemed to have learned that in 5th grade. Probably urban legend. If they had that many fish, they should have eaten the fish rather than the possible ear of corn months later. I always assumed they just picked up dead and rotting fish on the shore. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:33 PM (Riz8t) 83
And, yea, Walz and many MN state/federal politicos are in on it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (NwnyJ) Tim Walz reminds me of that episode where the retarded kid shows Archie Bunker he had the blade in backwards while planing the bathroom door and no little crinkles were coming out. Posted by: Meathead at December 06, 2025 12:35 PM (R/m4+) 84
18 Saw but a long trailer on Ken Burns Propaganda 6 part miniseries. But watched a couple hours of videos taking down Ken's Propaganda miniseries.
Actually best wasn't as much as taking apart as what Ken's Propaganda didn't say. The synopsis the video said was it was about the war, not the Revolution. Besides all the Propaganda filled war, was about nothing the Revolution was about. Nothing hardly on the Constitution they fought for, the Bill of Rights they fought for. Just a lot of what Ken wanted it to be for which wasn't historically correct. I might be able to find that video but can't be sure to find it. Posted by: Skip If you are interested in real history, one of the more interesting collections of Revolutionary War original documents is one of ministerial sermons that were recorded and passed around. Here is a link to a general discussion of Revolution as seen from the pulpit. https://tinyurl.com/yw77cncr Link goes to Academia website. Article is about 46 pages. Online Library of Liberty from the Liberty Fund has a two volume compliation of ministerial sermons about the Revolution and precursor events to it. https://tinyurl.com/2vfpwzww Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:36 PM (WDjG6) 85
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I have an in-law, a white person, publicly declaim that she was tired of white people. Sure thing, dearie. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: ----- I suppose it would be rude to suggest that Canada has a solution for that issue. Being direct, I would probably just mention that bigotry is pernicious even if you think badly of yourself. Actions matter more than color. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:38 PM (WDjG6) 86
This is a timely thread - but I have nothing optimistic to say about it. I will note ... take a look at Fox News right now. Number One article ? A puff piece about Little Mogadishu.
What do I think - not that you care ? We've hit critical mass here. Regardless of what IronGrampa says - we collectively are going to give this country away. Partly as a rejection of nationalism, partly as a pursuit of the quarterly-profit capitalism that prevails here, but mostly as a rejection of anything remotely resembling a collective treatment of groups - commonly called racism or stereotyping. That thought process, before certain folks start howling, didn't begin with Gen Z. It was taught in public schools to all ages in the 80s. Gen Z wasn't doing the teaching 40 years ago. No more than Millennials made their own participation trophies. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 12:39 PM (k2Vk4) 87
One of the most thorough eviscerations of FDR and his WWII performance is in Fleming's The New Dealer's War book.
I read that one recently and it was excellent. I'm currently reading "The New Deal's War on the Bill of Rights: The Untold Story of FDR's Concentration Camps, Censorship, and Mass Surveillance" by David T. Beito. As if I needed another reason to hate FDR. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t) 88
One of the most thorough eviscerations of FDR and his WWII performance is in Fleming's The New Dealer's War book.
Or just read anything - pretty much anything - late by Morgenthau. FDR doesn't reside on my Mt. Rushmore of Presidential Pricks for nothing. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 12:44 PM (k2Vk4) 89
78 " ... we do not need another oppressor-oppressed dialectic at this time. "
and yet here we are. Posted by: sock_rat_eez ===== They do it for power and to raise their social status over others. I call it bullshit. And most normal people of any race don't try to pull that shit. It is almost wholly the conceit of overeducated and maleducated twits that are trying to compete among other perceived opponents in their social class for personal benefit. History periodically records such idiotic enthusiasms among the perceived elite classes such as iconoclasm, witchcraft, or traditional economic based Marxism. All bullshit and designed to make the bien pensants think they are better than others in society because their shit doesn't stink. 1776's line in the song about the triangular trade comes to mind, "who stinketh the most!" illustrating hypocrisy. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:45 PM (WDjG6) 90
Thx K.T.
Liked Burns Civil War largely because of Shelby Foote. Also because Ashokan Farewell is written by people from my county and the Ashokan Resovoir is about 12 m from my house. His Baseball series kind of sucked. Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2025 12:45 PM (bfwj/) 91
My people buried a penguin at base of every corn plant, which led to mass starvation and the end of the tribe. Except for me.
Posted by: Heap Big Lizzy Warren at December 06, 2025 12:45 PM (vFG9F) 92
I'm going to pick up Rick Atkinson's second book on his Revolutionary War trilogy. It includes the burning of my city . The first book was good
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2025 12:47 PM (bfwj/) 93
A six tribes of savages ocracy if you can keep it.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 06, 2025 12:47 PM (H12NW) 94
His Baseball series kind of sucked.
In all fairness to Ken Burns - any series about a sport that sucks is gonna' suck just because. Ken Burns does Manual Bowling Pin Placement Through The Ages could be incredibly insightful and factual. Yet suck by default. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 12:47 PM (k2Vk4) 95
Oops. We call it maze.
Posted by: Heap Big Lizzy Warren at December 06, 2025 12:48 PM (vFG9F) 96
He did one documentary on the African Space Program.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 06, 2025 12:49 PM (H12NW) 97
Have not watched this series. My sister loved it, so I assume that it was leftist revisionism with musket volley sound effects.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 12:49 PM (R86kT) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 12:50 PM (pkeXY) 99
The American Revolution started a little too early. We let some trouble makers drag us into the war early.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 06, 2025 12:50 PM (H12NW) 100
The American Revolution started a little too early. We let some trouble makers drag us into the war early.
Probably Ukraine. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:52 PM (Riz8t) 101
Or just read anything - pretty much anything - late by Morgenthau.
FDR doesn't reside on my Mt. Rushmore of Presidential Pricks for nothing. Posted by: The Slow Decline What I think was unique about Fleming is in the foreword where he admits that he was a FDR fan in part due to the FDR saved Democracy trope. Fleming spent much of his career investigating the Revolutionary War and its aftermath but not much on more recent history. So he kind of just went with the flow of his generation (he died in his 90's fairly recently (1927-2017) and so did not seriously consider FDR as a historical figure until quite late in his career. That Man, by confidant and later Scotus Justice Robert Jackson is also not a flattering portrayal of the man whether Jackson realized it or not. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:52 PM (WDjG6) Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 12:52 PM (W7XSX) Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 12:54 PM (wrRTB) 104
Good morning everyone,
The comment below clearly outlines what we have lost. (Thanks whig) "Denialism of accepted historical explanations backed by documented original sources and derivative secondary ones and archaeological evidence became the norm." Now, how do we return to any accepted historical explanations? Trust in any historical claims has been destroyed. Wasn't there a quote that came out of communist Russia along the lines of "the present we know, it is the past that keeps changing"? Our country's history should be a shared heritage, but is now fractured by competing views. It is difficult for me not to be discouraged when trying to see a way forward. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 06, 2025 12:55 PM (La8zG) 105
Ken Burns no longer has Shelby Foote to hold up the series and it clearly shows. He should do what he really wants to do and that's Black History
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 06, 2025 12:56 PM (FCrpy) 106
John Adams:"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." It is inadequate for savages from another culture, especially those who have no respect for Euro-American traditions
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 06, 2025 12:56 PM (tyDOg) 107
Roundheads were the hot heads. Oddly. It was the American Anglicans that won the Rebellion.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 06, 2025 12:57 PM (NBPRu) 108
Yet Shelby had a plagiarism hanging over his head and somehow I decided never to read any of his books.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:57 PM (Ia/+0) 109
If Netflix does a Washington movie he'll be black and gay. They'll get Jussie Smollett to play the part.
Posted by: Aren't you that faggot nagger from Mt. Vernon? at December 06, 2025 12:58 PM (TbWk/) 110
Academia got into thing where the latest fad became a contest to see how outrageous one could be in assertions rather than the actual and rather dull accumulation of knowledge.
Several years ago Biblical Archaeology ran something from some nutcase about how Adams rib should actually be translated as Adams penis. In unrelated news, this appeared shortly before I let my subscription lapse. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 12:58 PM (EXyHK) 111
Yet Shelby had a plagiarism hanging over his head and somehow I decided never to read any of his books.
AI: While Shelby Foote himself wasn't accused of plagiarism, his letters and personal life were central to a major plagiarism controversy involving Wallace Stegner's Pulitzer-winning novel Angle of Repose (1971), where Stegner heavily used Foote's (and his wife Mary Hallock Foote's) unpublished letters without full attribution, sparking debates on fair use, appropriation, and literary ethics that continue today, with critics calling it literary theft while others defended it as creating authentic depth I think you can read Shelby Foote in peace. Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:58 PM (Riz8t) 112
His Baseball series kind of sucked.
Posted by: Smell the Glove Heroes and Villians bullshit, most documentaries are actually propaganda disguised as information. Using tricks of the trade, a documentarian can easily omit conflicting stories and evidence, manipulate emotions at the lizard brain level through images and music, and choose which features to highlight and which to downplay. So Burns made Ty Cobb a monster which was a gross overstatement for example while making other not so nice players into saints. Documentaries that feature panels of experts can be a bit better but often books and original sources are far better in information presentment, more recognizant of nuance, and more dense in actual information than what is put into a documentary. Harder to manipulate emotions through printed matter than by storytelling with music and images. Easier for most to spot tricks in printed matter by going back to the specific page than rewinding to 32:17 on the tape to replay something unfair, distorted, or downright a lie. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (WDjG6) 113
Ken Burns has always been a Leftist, and the difference between his Civil War documentary and his American Revolution documentary is reflective of the journey made by the Left over the last four decades. Leftists have become increasingly Marxist, totalitarian, and now hate the U.S., and they admit it. Leftists have gone off the rails. That was not generally the situation in 1990 when Burns did his Civil War documentary.
Posted by: Ralph at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (8WZD4) 114
Putting on YouTube see VDH has a take down on Ken Burns Propaganda miniseries
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (Ia/+0) 115
As if I needed another reason to hate FDR.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t) FDR should have been dug up and placed in the docket at Nuremberg alongside Goering and Dr. Gurgles. Posted by: FDR was a communist and War Criminal at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (R/m4+) 116
What I think was unique about Fleming is in the foreword where he admits that he was a FDR fan in part due to the FDR saved Democracy trope.
Interesting. I've done - like I always do - my own reading on FDR. And Lincoln. And Nixon. And on and on. I decided, at least by my 30s, that FDR was much more Communist than Hitler. Morgenthau's writings told the tail. Good ol' FDR wanted to convert the entire war effort to everyone collecting their paycheck from the Fed. FDR had to be talked down from simply Nationalizing entire "critical corporations". Even Hitler never considered these things. On these simple number-lines of how to look at WW II ? We were to the Right of the Soviets but Left of the Nazis when it came to Economic Freedom. So, of course, two generations deified the guy and statues and schools were built in his name. FDR was a tyrant. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:00 PM (k2Vk4) Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 01:00 PM (jc0TO) 118
I cannot tell a lie. Two white men in King George III hats forced me to chop down the cherry tree. Then they wrapped a noose around my neck, poured a solution of ashen lye upon me, shouted "THIS IS RED COAT COUNTRY" and ran away.
Posted by: George Faggington at December 06, 2025 01:01 PM (TbWk/) 119
Katy Perry did win a lawsuit against an aging veteran to get his mansion.
Stay classy Katy. Meh. The veteran sold the property to Perry and then tried to back out of the deal. His defense was that he didn't know what he was signing. This was probably the correct legal result, although Perry might wonder whether the hit to her reputation was worth the money. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 01:01 PM (8DR9B) 120
Several years ago Biblical Archaeology ran something from some nutcase about how Adam’s rib should actually be translated as Adam’s penis.
In unrelated news, this appeared shortly before I let my subscription lapse. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair ======= Yep. And opposite the truth, increasingly academic presentations as a discussant meant that any criticism became politically charged as whitey putting POC down or some other stupid bullshit. Simple epistemology observations of shoddy research became verboten. Even when it was kindly packaged as "what make you think this 'finding' is generalizable beyond your classroom". Millennials ruined academia. And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:05 PM (WDjG6) 121
NG Andrew Wolfe I take it still clings onto life, one can only hope he recovers fully but it will be a very long road I guess
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:05 PM (Ia/+0) 122
KT,
Thanks for including the Voices of Music video using period correct instruments and original score. Bach and Vivaldi played like that is different, so much better and richer than modern versions. The other video is a talented burlesque with the foot stomping. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 01:05 PM (yTvNw) 123
I cannot tell a lie. Two white men in King George III hats forced me to chop down the cherry tree.
But you could exceed orders - by quite a bit - and if you didn't start the French and Indian war by yourself ? Well, you at least got in the Team Photo. Ol' George was politically ambitious right out the gate. It really is amazing that he didn't try to hold onto power more than two terms. Because George liked power. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:06 PM (k2Vk4) 124
107 Roundheads were the hot heads. Oddly. It was the American Anglicans that won the Rebellion.
Posted by: Pudinhead Charlie Brown was a Roundhead. No, on second thought, he was a Blockhead. Posted by: Lucy Van Pelt at December 06, 2025 01:06 PM (oftw2) 125
I decided, at least by my 30s, that FDR was much more Communist than Hitler. Morgenthau's writings told the tail. Good ol' FDR wanted to convert the entire war effort to everyone collecting their paycheck from the Fed. FDR had to be talked down from simply Nationalizing entire "critical corporations". Even Hitler never considered these things.
On these simple number-lines of how to look at WW II ? We were to the Right of the Soviets but Left of the Nazis when it came to Economic Freedom. So, of course, two generations deified the guy and statues and schools were built in his name. FDR was a tyrant. Posted by: The Slow Decline Not much to disagree. FDR was a collectivist/bureaucrat enabler just like Woodrow Wilson who FDR served in his cabinet. Al Smith, FDR's predecessor as NY governor came to recognize that in FDR and his apparatchiks. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:07 PM (WDjG6) 126
And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated.
The takeover of the educational system is complete. Homeschool your children. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 06, 2025 01:08 PM (La8zG) 127
Similar to the MN whistleblowers, in Chicago, back in the day, Mike Royko (newspaper columnist and sometime muckraker) would get a LOT of info about misbehaving politicians, though his sources were never called whistleblowers. He was an old-school reporter who had a lot of contacts in city & county government. Sadly, as his contacts retired/left govt employment, he did less of that and more social commentary. He was very good at his trade. His bio of Mayor Richard J Daley,Boss, was a masterpiece - gave Daley credit for a lot (especially that he was never a grifter), but dragged the hell out of him for political shenanigans.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS) 128
He was very good at his trade. His bio of Mayor Richard J Daley,Boss, was a masterpiece - gave Daley credit for a lot (especially that he was never a grifter), but dragged the hell out of him for political shenanigans.
Posted by: Nazdar ======== I agree. It also helped that Royko was at the Sun Times which was the scrappy underdog at the time to the Chicago Tribune. Royko was given much more latitude to go after the business is business sorts in City Hall. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:11 PM (WDjG6) 129
And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated.
This very obvious factthat each generation is taught by an earlier generationmust be kept very firmly in mind The moment we forget this we begin to talk nonsense about education.C. S. Lewis, On the Transmission of Christianity Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 01:12 PM (EXyHK) 130
A few wise farmers, like George Washington did crop rotations, allowing animals to graze the stubble and poop, and other practices to keep the soil fertile but most simply sold up back east to buy new fresh land in the West.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:28 PM (WDjG6) Whig, what Eris is talking about is Terra Preta, which is a carbon rich soil that the Amazonian cultures made through creating middens in their farm lands. They make them to this day. It is a combination of charcoal and food prep waste, as well as left overs and whatever else. These were not slash and burn farmers The laetrite soils of the jungle have high recycling of minerals and nutrients, what the micro-life doesn't take the roots of the trees will take and the remainder is washed off, like you say. The charcoal appears to absorb the nutrients, and hold it for the plants and micro-life to utilize at need. Some dark earths are "meters" thick, and still fertile in spite of the cultures that made them dying off in the 1500's. The current organic fad of creating Terra Preta in your home garden is getting a lot of attention, and seems to have a serious value. It is a step up from crop rotation Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:12 PM (rbvCR) 131
I friend of mine recently bought a nice place. While in escrow, the seller want to bail because the value of the property went up.
He had to begin legal proceedings to make it happen. It's not her fault. He signed a contract. Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (W7XSX) 132
My view is in the aftermath of the Great Depression, Socialism was the big craze of the world. FDR was just as thrilled by it.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (Ia/+0) 133
The takeover of the educational system is complete.
Homeschool your children. Posted by: AmericanKestrel Only if you are capable and some people aren't by nature or inclination. It require careful curation of curriculum because a lot of that is infected wokist tripe as well. If one is inclined to do that, reaching out to networks that have already resolved some of these issues among parent educators is very useful. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (WDjG6) 134
***Questions:
Why does this series seem different from, say, his Civil War epic? --- It seems different because people have only been taught one narrative on the Civil War. Burns 'epic' on the Civil War is as big a crock of shit as his 'epic' on the Revolution. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:14 PM (04Glf) 135
" buy new fresh land in the West?"
My ancestors sold out in SC when the soil was depleted and moved west for free land in Alabama. Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (W7XSX) 136
129 And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated.
“This very obvious fact—that each generation is taught by an earlier generation—must be kept very firmly in mind… The moment we forget this we begin to talk nonsense about education.”—C. S. Lewis, On the Transmission of Christianity Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 01:12 PM (EXyHK) Even in the early stone ages, when Boomers were going to college, radicalism was overtly taking over the academy, and the education majors were full-on retards. We've been on this downward trajectory for some time. Posted by: The seeds were planted even earlier at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (TbWk/) 137
[Mike Royko] was very good at his trade.
His stories about learning to be a reporter at Chicagos City News Bureau make it sound almost like a Chinese Opera training school but for journalists. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (EXyHK) 138
FDR was a collectivist/bureaucrat enabler just like Woodrow Wilson who FDR served in his cabinet.
Which is ironic. At least as far as I've read - FDR was one of the first wave of Industrial Candidates. Big funding from J.P. Morgan, J.D. Rockefeller, and Henry Ford. Its odd how it always works like this, ain't it ? Wall Street loved Obama. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (k2Vk4) 139
I have an in-law, a white person, publicly declaim that she was tired of white people.
Sure thing, dearie. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 06, 2025 12:26 PM (xG4kz Did you tell her that she should kill herself to relieve her anguish? I often offer helpful advice to poor misguided souls such as herself. With age comes an absence of mouth filters. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (5xuJ/) 140
I looked up Howard Zinn and found out his shitty book is considered "great."
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (W7XSX) Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:16 PM (W7XSX) 142
“This very obvious fact—that each generation is taught by an earlier generation—must be kept very firmly in mind… The moment we forget this we begin to talk nonsense about education.”—C. S. Lewis, On the Transmission of Christianity
Everyone can keep their G.K. Chesterston. Seriously. C.S. Lewis understood how things work. G.K. loudly told you how he wished it did. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (k2Vk4) 143
I think Royko was at the Daily News, the afternoon paper. Moved to the Tribune when the Daily News shut down. 1981?
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (R86kT) 144
Only if you are capable and some people aren't by nature or inclination.
At this point, I disagree. Even the most incapable parent is going to provide a better education than most schools do. Paraphrasing what Jefferson said about newspapers, if the only thing a parent does is teach nothing to their children, their kids will still be more informed than public school kids who are taught lies. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (EXyHK) 145
The Burns documentary went as I expected: anything but good white people. The content was so basic and limited with almost no mention of the philosophical underpinnings. The music couldn't compare to Ashokan Farewell. The 1776 versions of the Ballou letter which exist but weren't used lessened the personal emotional context. And there was no equivalent to Shelby Foote providing insight and humor. The commenters were knowledgeable but not lively.
Glad I didn't waste too much time with the whole series. Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (yTvNw) 146
Also, for tobacco, the farmers in the South tended to do a form of slash and burn, always expanding as they needed more land that was not exhausted. In New England (and later in the South) more scientific methods of crop rotation, fallow, and amending in a way that would have made the original Jethro Tull proud.
it is both from the background of the different farmers, and the crops and economics of the regions. You farm wheat and corn differently from tobacco, in part because wheat and corn allowed smaller plots, and not requiring a latifundia to be economically viable Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (rbvCR) 147
132 My view is in the aftermath of the Great Depression, Socialism was the big craze of the world. FDR was just as thrilled by it.
Posted by: Skip I would include fascism under that monicker. Progressivism was essentially fascism with better pr in combining and managing industry and society by groups rather than individualism. The later pluralism movement (government is the arena and referee where interest groups duke it out) can be shown as derivative of fascist emphasis on the fasces (different strands of society) being welded together by the state in order to promote and enforce whatever the top honcho/ruling counsel felt was in the interest of the state. In reality, the managerial class because of information control often ran the place on a day to day basis whether in corporations, government, or ngos. Burns, the Managerial Revolution, was written at the height of WWII with its insights over institutions like the OPM. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (WDjG6) 148
Only if you are capable and some people aren't by nature or inclination. It require careful curation of curriculum because a lot of that is infected wokist tripe as well. If one is inclined to do that, reaching out to networks that have already resolved some of these issues among parent educators is very useful.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (WDjG6) And you have to be of the right temperament. If you are impatient or snap easily, don't do it. Or you'll find yourself screaming and hitting your kids for not understanding Algebra II fast enough. Or at a less extreme end burning out. Posted by: You have to be very self-controlled and self-aware at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/) 149
Tisquantum learned the technique of burying a bit of fish with the corn seed from continental Europeans while a slave in Spain before escaping to England and eventually returning to Massachusetts. The fish technique was not a local Indian custom. It is a Spanish technique.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (xqL5c) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (04Glf) 151
Everyone can keep their G.K. Chesterston.
He says, Neither in religion nor morality, my friend, lie the hopes of the race, but in education. This, clearly expressed, means, We cannot decide what is good, but let us give it to our children.G.K. Chesterton, Heretics Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (EXyHK) 152
149 Tisquantum learned the technique of burying a bit of fish with the corn seed from continental Europeans while a slave in Spain before escaping to England and eventually returning to Massachusetts. The fish technique was not a local Indian custom. It is a Spanish technique.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (xqL5c) He was also known as Squatto because he taught them how to build latrines. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (uWKK8) 153
It's funny not funny that WW2 started in part because of FDR's meddling in China to protect American investments there and Chamberpot guaranteeing Poland's independence yet by 1949 both were communist.
Ken Burns outta do a series. Posted by: And Yet at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (R/m4+) Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (W7XSX) 155
143 I think Royko was at the Daily News, the afternoon paper. Moved to the Tribune when the Daily News shut down. 1981?
Posted by: Ted Torgerson ====== You would be right that he started at the Daily News which folded about 1970 and then to the allied Sun Times until Rupert Murdoch purchased it in the 80's and then to Tribune. Daily News was before my time really and I read Royko's syndicated columns before I read his books. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (WDjG6) 156
Thank you for the lovely music, K.T.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 06, 2025 01:21 PM (hW+ut) 157
>>Because George liked power.
George refused the kingship which was suggested because he had no legitimate children. Don't know if he had illegitimate children, but neither they nor his stepchildren would have been acceptable successors. He retired, albeit temporarily, to private life after the war and served as President for a *limited* period to try to model how that should work. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:22 PM (NcvvS) 158
dad said that Grandpa buried fish in the garden, and in an allotment he rented during the war for a a victory garden. Dad also said Grandpa only did it once because it stank to high heaven.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:23 PM (rbvCR) 159
Fleming admits he began the project being favorable toward FDR and his legacy but the historical evidence he uncovered of FDR's nasty/vicious personality and his minions ideology over practicality changed his mind when writing the book.
------------- Sounds like the guy who wrote a biography of LBJ. Caro? Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025 01:23 PM (0cOaq) 160
Ken Burns and Why Now?
Well, its another facet in the never-ending trolling by the Left. Continuously calling Conservatives racists, H8tr's, Fascists, Nazis, then introduce a bullsh*t series on the founding fathers and suddenly its seems much more OK to revolt against authority. How can you not when armed with the righteous cause of "democratic socialism"? Well, bring it assholes. Come to my little town and let's dance. Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 01:24 PM (2WIwB) 161
Pacos first came over to this country as indentured servants in the early 18th century from England (probably stole some spoons or a cow or something). My ancestor fought against the British and was awarded a parcel of land after the Revolutionary War concluded. You can bet the old boy knew a thing or two about oppression and freedom, and the big difference between the two.
Posted by: Paco at December 06, 2025 01:25 PM (mADJX) 162
My mom bought a thing called "fish emulsion" for her flowers. A little goes a long way.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:26 PM (W7XSX) 163
Ken Burns, Civil War, epic
Ken Burns, Revolution, epic The Gell-Mann amnesia effect is a cognitive bias where people recognize inaccuracies in media reports about topics they know well but still trust the media on subjects they are less familiar with. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:26 PM (04Glf) 164
And you have to be of the right temperament. If you are impatient or snap easily, don't do it. Or you'll find yourself screaming and hitting your kids for not understanding Algebra II fast enough. Or at a less extreme end burning out.
Posted by: You have to be very self-controlled and self-aware ======= Good points. Same criteria as those planning on teaching as a career. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (WDjG6) 165
The worldview of the left can be mostly summed up with the phrase 'I hate you, Dad!'.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (jc0TO) 166
It's kind of like sardines. Nobody wants them. But Bobby Flay puts them in his Sprimp and Grits and never loses.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (W7XSX) 167
It's funny not funny that WW2 started in part because of FDR's meddling in China to protect American investments there and Chamberpot guaranteeing Poland's independence yet by 1949 both were communist.
WW II was guaranteed when the Treaty of Versailles was signed to send both teams to the locker-room at the end of WW I. A twenty year armistice. A long half-time. No country would have lived under those terms without force to make them do so. No sane victor without the means to muster such force, long term, would have considered it. So, of course, Wilson waded our asses in to tip the balance and then sign such a moronic plan. Wilson is also on my Mt. Rushmore of Presidential Pricks. FDR, Lincoln, and Wilson. Spot Number Four is still up for grabs. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (k2Vk4) 168
Anchovies. Yikes.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (W7XSX) 169
Several years ago Biblical Archaeology ran something from some nutcase about how Adam’s rib should actually be translated as Adam’s penis.
In unrelated news, this appeared shortly before I let my subscription lapse. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 12:58 PM (EXyHK) Ah the "Baculum theory". It argues that parts of Genesis is a "just so" story that has no parallel that anyone has presented, based on the observation that Humans are the only mammal without a baculum, however it misses that ungulates like horses, cattle and sheep also lack them. Possibly one of the more exciting unprovable thesis to come out of modern maundering. Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (rbvCR) 170
105 Ken Burns no longer has Shelby Foote to hold up the series and it clearly shows. He should do what he really wants to do and that's Black History - Patrick from Ohio
Maybe he'd like to start with contemporary history in the Minneapolis area. No? Well, just an idea... Posted by: Paco at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (mADJX) 171
161 Pacos first came over to this country as indentured servants
--- Both of Buddy's fore-parents came to the rebuilding of Jamestown as indentured servants. They've got stories. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (04Glf) 172
Sounds like the guy who wrote a biography of LBJ. Caro?
Posted by: Captain Obvious Yes. Caro took a turn when he documented LBJ's rise to power in his first volume. Believe by his second volume research, LBJ's family and supporters were upset by the first one and tried to hinder his ability to access LBJ's donated papers and his presidential library. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (WDjG6) 173
Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
Haven't read comments yet, so I'm sure others have said this earlier and better. Trump needs to get a real American to do a quick revolution series telling the background of the whole idea. Someone who doesn't use this platform to denigrate the country and founders, but celebrates what they did. Our revolution inspired others, just like the French one, but ours didn't devolve into savagery. We need to know why, not that the founders were imperfect. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (uQesX) 174
"White Slavery"
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (W7XSX) 175
My mom bought a thing called "fish emulsion" for her flowers. A little goes a long way.
Fish emulsion is the last stop for fish that aren't good enough to use for lutefisk. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (8DR9B) 176
>>It also helped that Royko was at the Sun Times
whig, before that, he was at the Daily News, which was the Field family's afternoon paper, and the one Dad brought home. Was reading him before hitting double-digit age; didn't get some things, but sure got a lot. He moved to the Sun-Times when the Daily News shut down ('74?) and the S-T did a morning & afternoon edition. Both the Sun-Times & the Tribune killed their afternoon editions a few years later; hell, the Trib bought the Chicago American and made it the Chicago Today, for a while. The real grin is that Royko moved to the Tribune when Rupert Murdoch bought the Field publications, because, while he had sworn that he would never work for the Trib, he loathed Murdoch more. There's a story (too lazy to look up) that Royko rode an elevator in the S-T building with one of the Field heirs right after the sale was announced and blasted him practically out of the elevator. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:32 PM (NcvvS) 177
"The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist. The The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do."
As I've said before (and I trust others have said as well), there should never have been a J6 rally - especially if the J5 pipe bombs were discovered when they should have been. The whole Capitol complex should have been shut down due to a bomb investigation, instead of allowing any group of people to congregate around discovered and undiscovered explosive devices. The government let the bombs be planted, allowed the demonstrations to take place in spite of those bombs being planted, and conspired to railroad innocent protestors and derail the possibility of a second Trump term - either in 2021 or today. Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 01:34 PM (0CU3H) 178
174 Pacos first came over to this country as indentured servants
--- Both of Buddy's fore-parents came to the rebuilding of Jamestown as indentured servants. They've got stories. - Braenyard Cherish them and pass them on. I have few details, unfortunately, about the First Paco in America. Great Aunt Murdy commissioned a genuine genealogical history probably before I was born, and she never let anybody read it. Some of the basic info got out, though, such as that indentured servant business. I take it that my people were not exactly in line for the throne. Posted by: Paco at December 06, 2025 01:34 PM (mADJX) 179
@137 Stephen Price Blair
I've got 3-4 of Royko's books and love them for the stories of learning his trade. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:35 PM (NcvvS) 180
From what I understand, lutefisk would be better used as fertilizer.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (W7XSX) 181
Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
No. Honestly ? No. Because there's a reason the Left - under Obama - systematically erased every Civil War name and monument. Why did they do that ? Because they wanted to erase the idea of organized disobedience. Because they had the idea that they had a lock on authority. And now ? They love the idea of disobedience. There is no message that will work - unless you teach the idea of whites vs. whites vs. natives. Which will not play with the young 'uns. Or we can go State's Rights. North-East Republicans will hate that. Or we can get into the real lives of the "Founders". They were not Saints or Deities. That'll work well. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (k2Vk4) 182
173 Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
Haven't read comments yet, so I'm sure others have said this earlier and better. Trump needs to get a real American to do a quick revolution series telling the background of the whole idea. Someone who doesn't use this platform to denigrate the country and founders, but celebrates what they did. Our revolution inspired others, just like the French one, but ours didn't devolve into savagery. We need to know why, not that the founders were imperfect. Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (uQesX) The White House has put out a series of videos on YouTube highlighting individual Revolutionary figures - both well-known and unknown. It's pretty good, and it's short as well. Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (0CU3H) 183
BTU VS Texas Tech... some crazy plays!
!!!!!GUNS UP!!!! Posted by: lin-duh at December 06, 2025 01:37 PM (VCgbV) 184
GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:37 PM (Ia/+0) 185
I've got 3-4 of Royko's books and love them for the stories of learning his trade.
Theres not a dud in the bunch. One of his most memorable essays is getting carried away watching True Grit. I think its from Sez Who? Sez Me. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 01:38 PM (EXyHK) 186
175 When Dad and I would go bank fishing, he kept carp and other bottom feeders for his miserable garden. A friend's Dad, a guy about my age, keeps carp and smokes them. It took him a few tries, but what comes out now is pretty good.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 06, 2025 01:38 PM (gm9Sb) 187
Some of the basic info got out, though, such as that indentured servant business. I take it that my people were not exactly in line for the throne.
Posted by: Paco That is too bad. We were the Kings, but then we abdicated the Throne. Posted by: The Schmenge Brothers at December 06, 2025 01:40 PM (oftw2) 188
>>I think Royko was at the Daily News, the afternoon paper. Moved to the Tribune when the Daily News shut down. 1981?
Ted, Daily News shut down in '78, and I think Field stopped producing an afternoon paper then. Tribune killed Chicago Today and produced an afternoon edition for a few years - remember because delivered afternoon Chicago papers from 1973-1975 before turned 29. Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:41 PM (NcvvS) 189
I went out on a half-day boat out of San Diego. We caught a lot of mackerel. Nobody wants the mackerel, but this old guy. He takes all we want to give him.
He was old man Ghio. Portugese. They used the mackerel to make fish stock at the Anthony's restaurants in San Diego. Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (W7XSX) 190
Our revolution inspired others, just like the French one, but ours didn't devolve into savagery.
Good Grief. Prisoners kept in cages (the Brits did that in Boston). Buildings "fired" - which meant those inside burnt alive. Do you understand that, in that Revolution, men lined up against other men to kill them ? And if they missed at close range, there was always the bayonet or the hatchet ? War IS savagery. By definition. Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (k2Vk4) 191
The bomb story stinks. They traced him buying one piece of pipe at Home Depot a year apart from buying another piece at Lowes and the other few pieces at different times (months or years apart) and places.
They can do this but they can't find a killer? They can't trace back on the Trump shooter or Las Vegas or two hundred other things that are strung together much better than a piece of pipe here and a piece of pipe there. He may have placed the bombs but the whole story is a crock. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (04Glf) 192
From what I understand, lutefisk would be better used as fertilizer.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (W7XSX) Lutefisk has too much lye in it for fertilizer You can make you own fish emulsion by dumping those hagfish, bullheads, fish guts and heads in a barrel, topping with water and letting it rot down for a summer. That is what it is, basically. Some people advise stirring it from time to time, and others say it is best to strain the bones out before use. By the way, if you were to put in lots of salt, you could make fish sauce or garum instead, but you probably want to clean the barrel well, first. "Makes your plants grow tall - either from the fertilizer, or because they are trying to get away from the stink" Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:44 PM (rbvCR) 193
It's the Las Vegas shooter story that stinks.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:45 PM (W7XSX) 194
Well, lutefisk before the lye.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:46 PM (W7XSX) 195
The worldview of the left can be mostly summed up with the phrase 'I hate you, Dad!'.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (jc0TO) Heh. The Coal Mining sketch by Monty Python really does hit the nail. 'Coal minings a wonderful thing, Father!' Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 01:48 PM (RE5em) 196
One can only think the Eff Bee Eye doesn't see what they don't want to see
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:52 PM (Ia/+0) 197
Ken Burns came to my local high school to talk to students about the documentary, as I live in a Massachusetts town that saw early action in the Revolution. No word on whether John Locke or the Iroquois were more influential to Franklin.
Posted by: Lex at December 06, 2025 01:54 PM (y4H1r) 198
The real grin is that Royko moved to the Tribune when Rupert Murdoch bought the Field publications, because, while he had sworn that he would never work for the Trib, he loathed Murdoch more. There's a story (too lazy to look up) that Royko rode an elevator in the S-T building with one of the Field heirs right after the sale was announced and blasted him practically out of the elevator.
Posted by: Nazdar ----- Thanks for the true story. Mine was garbled because I read his syndicated column in the local rag, not the original papers where they were first published. Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:57 PM (WDjG6) 199
The worldview of the left can be mostly summed up with the phrase 'I hate you, Dad!'.
Yeah. And the worldview of the right is mostly "I forgive you, Dad". Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:57 PM (k2Vk4) 200
I've very disappointed that Burns ignored the critical contributions by transgender people, without whom we would still be speaking the King's English.
Posted by: p-squared at December 06, 2025 01:58 PM (0prFs) Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 02:00 PM (NcvvS) 202
'Coal minings a wonderful thing, Father!'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone Not hardly. It's a struggle every day. A regular Mine Kampf! Posted by: Ned From Newcastle at December 06, 2025 02:01 PM (oftw2) 203
199 The worldview of the left can be mostly summed up with the phrase 'I hate you, Dad!'.
Yeah. And the worldview of the right is mostly "I forgive you, Dad". Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:57 PM (k2Vk4) The worldview of the TradCon right is mostly "Dad beat me and I turned out fine so I'm going to beat you so you'll turn out fine. Also, because God." Posted by: Ah the good old days at December 06, 2025 02:03 PM (TbWk/) 204
My pleasure, whig. Of course, he printed the story in the Sun-Times just before his departure.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 02:05 PM (NcvvS) 205
It's on PBS? Pfffft screw that, never gonna watch.
Posted by: Brometheus at December 06, 2025 02:13 PM (XQPCp) 206
In before the guy that overshares!
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 02:15 PM (jc0TO) Posted by: Alex Holz at December 06, 2025 02:29 PM (rbKtB) 208
and Texas Tech goes up two TDs late to try and get the CFP committee out of a cleft stick of their own cutting.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 02:31 PM (jc0TO) 209
The notion that the Founders, and Enlightenment Europeans in general, got a lot of their ideal from observing the loosely democratic tribal confederations and decision-making processes among North American Indians is popularized in "The Dawn of Everything (2021) by Graeber and Wengrow. I'll bet Burns has read it. I found it interesting, but don't have enough subject matter knowledge to know if it's got a solid foundation or relies primarily on cherry-picked and anecdotal evidence.
Posted by: Bryan at December 06, 2025 02:42 PM (SCSMo) 210
As I posted a review of a video up top, the Leftists H8 the country so no Revolutionary War movie about why their was a war will ever be made.
Make a move on the Constitution and you will have one about the Revolution. Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 02:58 PM (Ia/+0) 211
The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist.
Mike Benz pointed out this morning that in the actual aftermath of J5/J6 the FBI released a statement pointing out the rare fancy Nikes the bomber was wearing and then did nothing to track them down. I would assume that was a signal to the bomber to stop wearing them. Posted by: Ian S. at December 06, 2025 03:04 PM (QZThv) 212
TTU has been bringing it all season!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at December 06, 2025 03:13 PM (VCgbV) 213
Lots of articles on how the Democrats/ Marxists Propaganda Ministry is turning a Black Leftists into a White MAGA Trumper
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 03:19 PM (Ia/+0) 214
CONGRATULATIONS TEXAS TECH!!!!🏈🏈
Posted by: lin-duh at December 06, 2025 03:24 PM (VCgbV) 215
The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist.
Mike Benz pointed out this morning that in the actual aftermath of J5/J6 the FBI released a statement pointing out the rare fancy Nikes the bomber was wearing and then did nothing to track them down. I would assume that was a signal to the bomber to stop wearing them. ------ Yes. And once upon a time "independent journalists" would have seized on that tip and raced to identify the perp. It would have been quite the prize to have beat the FBI to the punch, and comparatively easy too since the Biden-era FBI wanted no part of solving this case. Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 03:36 PM (TN0g+) 216
They tracked him down and when they found out he was black and gay and autistic, they buried it.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:37 PM (W7XSX) 217
123 "Because George liked power."
Yes, but he also liked pussy, and decided to work on becoming more the literal Father of His Country as he grew older. I mean, nobody's gonna shoot the First President just because he tapped your old lady! Many would have seen it as an honor! Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 06, 2025 05:14 PM (FpP3s) 218
When I toured Alaska, our guide said all the green we saw in the bay where we were whale watching was because eagles ate salmon, dropped them in the bare rocks, and they created the biomass that allowed vegetation to begin forming and building.
I'm sure the Iroquois could figure out that same thing: plants like fish biomass. They don't understand the scientific WHY, nitrogen and all that, but they saw it works. Also the three sisters thing, plant beans corn and squash together, does work. They have a symbiotic relationship. Agriculture in general is delayed gratification: I plant these seeds now, later I see a harvest. I plant a fish under my corn instead of just eating the fish now, my corn grows taller and bigger. And then I can use the corn to survive the winter. It does scholars absolutely no credit to be honest about the Iriquois' planting prowess, and then go a step too far and say "the native Americans inspired the concept of democracy." It negates everything historically true, and makes them look like lazy woke fools. (Which they are, but for Pete's sake, don't PROVE it beyond all doubt!) Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 05:38 PM (gWBY1) The
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