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The Girl by the Window
Edvard Munch

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (2YhKe)

2 Sidewalk chalk art......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (2YhKe)

3 Reading by the pale moonlight.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (2YhKe)

4 Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (gnNyN)

5 Not much detail sadly because itcould be a nice painting

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (sgkY8)

6 The girl was angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (Ov6Yl)

7 No dog either.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (Kt19C)

8 Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (gnNyN)




SHHHHHHH! You'll wake up the First Lady.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (2YhKe)

9 Kind of looks like she is holding a book. But as said not enough details

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (sgkY8)

10 I kind of like the blue, but what's with the balls behind her?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (mPXxA)

11 What light through yonder window breaks?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (ibDUx)

12 But, is she screaming?

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (+iIfu)

13 Title checks out.

Posted by: Person who checks out titles at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (Ov6Yl)

14
I like it and suspect it would be something that would have to be seen in person to be fully appreciated.

Where is it hanging out these days?

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (Y8DZL)

15 What light through yonder window breaks?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (ibDUx)



I thought that was the sniper's round breaking the window.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (2YhKe)

16 Would not hang.

Posted by: Kumala Whoris at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (l3cgK)

17 It's Wendy, obviously!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (X8xt3)

18 Wow, a pleasant Munch painting.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (77rzZ)

19 Someone that close to a window risks defenestration...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (l3cgK)

20 meh

Posted by: Otto Penn at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (sJHOI)

21 "...but what's with the balls behind her?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM
++++++
She likes big balls and she cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Suxalot at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (Ov6Yl)

22 4 Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (gnNyN)

Heh.
That book was a girl's choice between necrophilia and beastiality...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (l3cgK)

23 I kind of like the blue, but what's with the balls behind her?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I can explain that.

Posted by: Buttigig at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (ItpVy)

24 21 "...but what's with the balls behind her?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM
++++++
She likes big balls and she cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Suxalot at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (Ov6Yl)

I think that's her bed...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (l3cgK)

25 Who she flashing?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (jehhT)

26 The wall outside is blocking the door.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (2YhKe)

27 Are we sure that isn't a ghost?

If there is anything movies have taught me its that a girl in a long white night down moving around at night is at least 50% of the time a ghost...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (sKqQm)

28 Quit wiping your nose on the drapes!

Posted by: PabloD at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (tTZHu)

29 It’s a peaceful scene but my criticism of the painter is that the girls form, particularly arms and legs, is quite fuzzy and non-precise. Her hands and feet are blobs. But still it has an overall calming feel…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (+gA9j)

30 She's peeping at the house across the way...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (l3cgK)

31 25 Who she flashing?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM
-----
Everybody. It's Mardi Gras.

Posted by: Rue Bourbon at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (Ov6Yl)

32 One, two, Freddy's coming for you......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (2YhKe)

33 >>Waiting for her sparkly vampire boyfriend to show up...



Uhhhhhh, not here in Salem's Lot

Posted by: Stephen King at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (X8xt3)

34 Her hands and feet are blobs

I'm big boned!

Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (sKqQm)

35
Edvard Munch? Is she getting ready to jump?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (O0L8i)

36 29 It’s a peaceful scene but my criticism of the painter is that the girls form, particularly arms and legs, is quite fuzzy and non-precise. Her hands and feet are blobs. But still it has an overall calming feel…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 09:35 AM (+gA9j)

Maybe Munch had vision issues?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:36 AM (l3cgK)

37 Don't jump!

Posted by: Creepy Joe at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (Ov6Yl)

38
It’s a peaceful scene but my criticism of the painter is that the girls form, particularly arms and legs, is quite fuzzy and non-precise.

Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (O0L8i)

39 Might as well jump.

Posted by: Van Halen at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (Ov6Yl)

40 Is that floor window supposed to be a reflection? Because it doesn't look like a reflection, but a floor window...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (l3cgK)

41 Mr. Mixx'll make ya JUMP JUMP!

Posted by: Kris Kross at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (2YhKe)

42 39 Might as well jump.

Posted by: Van Halen at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM (Ov6Yl)

Jump! For my Love!

Posted by: Pointer Sisters at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (l3cgK)

43 Peeping tom across the street forget to turn off the light.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (jehhT)

44 Might as well jump.
Posted by: Van Halen
_______

She's suffering from Romeo Void.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 09:39 AM (XvL8K)

45 Peeping tom across the street forget to turn off the light.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (jehhT)



The lesbians across the street have managed to screw up their bright ass LED outdoor motion lights where they just sit there and turn on and off all the time.

It's awesome because they light up the glass in my front door, which just so happens to shine right into my side of the bed.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (2YhKe)

46 Spring
Erlöse mich
Spring
Enttäusch mich nicht
Spring für mich
Spring ins Licht
Spring

Posted by: gKWVE at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (tL5sl)

47 Van Halen’s Jump… nice touch. Only the horde would put that in this context…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (+gA9j)

48 She's workin' on her night moves.
Tryin' to lose the awkward teenage blues.

Posted by: Bob Seger at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (Ov6Yl)

49 The lesbians across the street have managed to screw up their bright ass LED outdoor motion lights where they just sit there and turn on and off all the time.

How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)

50 It's awesome because they light up the glass in my front door, which just so happens to shine right into my side of the bed.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (2YhKe)

Yeah, no fun. Had issues with neighbor's lights flashing during Christmastime into my bedroom window...even with the blinds closed, the light still seeps in through the cracks and sides.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (l3cgK)

51
Away to the window she flew in a flash, tore open the shutter and threw up... - a limerick

There once was a young girl from Maine
Who slowly was going insane
"I fret and I worry that my view is so blurry
But cleaning second-story windows is a pane!"

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (I0N4X)

52 I find I must strenuously object to this art. Not just merely object, but strenuously object. Thank you and God Bless America.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (GNqmQ)

53 49 The lesbians across the street have managed to screw up their bright ass LED outdoor motion lights where they just sit there and turn on and off all the time.

How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)

Depends. Is scissoring involved?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (l3cgK)

54
How many lesbians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Posted by: The girl at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)



It appears, one. The other one ain't climbing a ladder.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (2YhKe)

55 It's Wendy, obviously!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (X8xt3)
-

WRONG!!!!

Everyone knows it's Windy!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (exwma)

56 She is bereft because she won't have Keir Starmer to kick around any more.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (Riz8t)

57 56 She is bereft because she won't have Keir Starmer to kick around any more.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (Riz8t)

Maybe she's watching the Muzzie r@pe gangs down the lane...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (l3cgK)

58 Gladys Kravitz, the early years.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 09:44 AM (XvL8K)

59 Rear Window, lesbian edition.

Posted by: Jimmy Stewart unavailable for comment at June 22, 2026 09:45 AM (Ov6Yl)

60 "Footless Girl Stares At Maxipad At Midnight."

So evocative. So misunderstood. So mnambulant.

Posted by: red speck at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (Ve/HL)

61 OnlyFans, analog edition.

Posted by: Before the interwebs at June 22, 2026 09:47 AM (Ov6Yl)

62 Smudgy. Keep rubbing my eyes, but it doesn't get clearer. Maybe more coffee will help.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 22, 2026 09:47 AM (6v6cQ)

63 Smudgy. Keep rubbing my eyes, but it doesn't get clearer. Maybe more coffee will help.

The only thing that would help is to go back in time and convince Edvard Munch to pick a different profession.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (Riz8t)

64 OnlyFans, analog edition.
Posted by: Before the interwebs

But how does the money change hands?

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (6v6cQ)

65
Now That Sissy Has Gone Off to College I sGet Her Bedroom

A young girl renowned for self-effacement
Gazed out on the world from her casement
"It's a beautiful day
and I really must say,
This view is much better than the basement!"

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (I0N4X)

66 Ask your urologist if My nambulant is right for you.

Posted by: Big Fat Farma at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (Ov6Yl)

67 "But how does the money change hands?"
+++
Carrier pigeon.

Posted by: But it's still twenty bucks at June 22, 2026 09:50 AM (Ov6Yl)

68 "I hope I shall see The Paolo someday again."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:50 AM (0sNs1)

69 Outside her window is a guy screaming.
Like this one, would hang.
Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 09:51 AM (Iurxt)

70 ‘somebody see you up there’

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2026 09:51 AM (LHPAg)

71 But how does the money change hands?
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM


$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:51 AM (0sNs1)

72 Not a fan of Edvard Munch. The depressive scenes he usually chooses, the faces that don't even rise to the level of caricature, and the colors that look like van Gogh on the brown acid: what is the appeal?

Having said that, this painting is effective. The girls is indistinct but recognizable. The colors are soft and reflect the look of moon light which is echoed in her night gown. all the elements combine to create a gentle, not necessarily peaceful, mood. It's listed as an oil painting but it looked like pastel to me.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (yTvNw)

73 Nice picture. Thanks. Less grim than some by Munch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (vY9Lp)

74 Edvard Munch?? More like BUTT-munch!

Posted by: Beavis at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (jDdwC)

75 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM


Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (0sNs1)

76 74 Edvard Munch?? More like BUTT-munch!

Posted by: Beavis at


Heh heh. Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Butthead at June 22, 2026 09:55 AM (Riz8t)

77
"Girl by the Window..."

"...Later Seen Running Down the Road, Screaming"

-- as reported on the Pittsburgh Police Scanner

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at June 22, 2026 09:55 AM (s9VOe)

78 Perhaps Piper can bring us some interesting fashion content regarding nightgowns one of these Sunday nights.

Posted by: Fashion novice at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (Ov6Yl)

79 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM (0sNs1)
----
Where's the Heisenberg Compensator when you need one?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (gnNyN)

80 75 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.


I'm not sure about that.

Posted by: Werner Heisenberg at June 22, 2026 09:57 AM (Riz8t)

81 Perhaps Piper can bring us some interesting fashion content regarding nightgowns one of these Sunday nights.
Posted by: Fashion novice at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (Ov6Yl)


Especially those worn by ghosts

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (jDdwC)

82 "The reflection on the floor doesn't match the shape of the window. We're sorry, Mr. Hitler, but you'll have to consider other options for your career."

Posted by: The Vienna School of Fine Art at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (6/7Fs)

83 the cruiser is still parked there...

Posted by: cmeat at June 22, 2026 09:59 AM (R11M+)

84 79 Planck's Constant is very large in that picture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:37 AM

Schrödinger's Cat's box is behind her, just out of frame.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2026 09:54 AM
----
Yes, but she's looking out of MY window.

Posted by: Johari at June 22, 2026 10:00 AM (Ov6Yl)

85 Alternate title:

"In The Pale Moonlight, In The Dead of the Night,
Melissa Sniffs Her Shoes"

Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

The Morning Report — 6/ 22 /26

HORMUZ-JACKET.jpg

Good morning kids. Well the big story breaking late or early depending which side of the pond you're on is that Keir Starmer has decided to call it quits as England's Prime Minister.

Sir Keir Starmer choked up as he announced his resignation as UK Prime Minister Monday – less than 2 years after the Labour Party stormed to a landslide general election win.
Starmer, 63, set out a timetable to stand down after coming under mounting pressure following last month’s local elections, where the governing Labour Party lost over 1,000 seats.

The Prime Minister announced his intention to step down after admitting the Labour Party was questioning whether he could lead it into the next general election, which must be held before July 2029, just 23 months after leading his party to a landslide win. 

“I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party to that question, and I accept that answer with good grace,” Starmer said outside 10 Downing Street in London.

Every decision I’ve taken has been about putting the country I love first. That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party. I have spoken to His Majesty the King this morning to inform him of my decision.”


While I'm no expert, to say the least, on British politics but no doubt that one of the things that has led to Starmer's departure is the growing scandal of the Muslim rape crisis that has come to light especially over the last year or so. But shockingly Muslim men have been raping non-Muslim women and girls for decades!

This is something that’s also totally missed by the report’s focus on Islam as the main driving force behind the grooming: Pakistani Muslim men raping white British girls because they aren’t Muslim. In many cases, the Muslim identity of the men appears to be incidental to the grooming, and the kinship networks like the Kashmiri birādarī system that structure it predate conversion to Islam by centuries. Yes, some groomers do refer to the girls as kuffār—non-believers—and the justification is that of the wretched Quran verse “What the right hand possesses,” which says Muslim men can take sex slaves from among kuffār women, but it seems to be kinship, rather than religion, that gives these crimes their systematic and persistent character. Ultimately, though, this remains to be explored properly.

Rape is not a one-off crime committed here and there but it is a documented tool of warfare used by Muslims to conquer and subjugate nations and people once Islam becomes a dominant force politically and/or demographically aided and abetted by a cowed and submissive indigenous populace that refuses to defend itself from invasion and conquest, and as is the case of Britain and much of western Europe brought it willingly upon themselves for myriad cultural and historic reasons.

While Starmer is gone, is there really a chance that the English people will recognize the mortal danger they placed themselves in by allowing the socialists to rule essentially unchecked since the end of the Second World War, Churchill's sunset years and Maggie Thatcher notwithstanding.

The uprising in Belfast over the attempted public beheading of a man in broad daylight certainly gives one hope that people are indeed waking up at long last. Still, I'm hesitant to predict a sea change over there, knowing full well that despite being mugged by reality, Leftists/Democrats will lather rinse and repeat and continue to vote for their own destruction. Of course the societal and political pressure imposed by the globalist/political media cultural complex to bend the knee and surrender cannot be underestimated either. And in the UK there is now an official censorship regime where one can be hauled off and prosecuted for uttering anything critical against Islam, let alone even silently praying in front of an abortion mill.

And elsewhere the beat goes on with the Iran negotiations. Some are hailing Trump and Vance as brilliant masters of 11-dimension chess. . .


Regardless of the naysayers, neoconservatives, and progressive leftist shills using social and mainstream media to portray America as weak for the thousandth time, President Trump's Iran deal and the communication of the deal by Vice President JD Vance has been a masterclass in geopolitics and media dexterity. President Trump's preliminary MOU with Iran took pressure, pragmatism, forceful language, and a militaristic strategy to secure, but it was all worth it. The priority of using peace through strength, the ever-powerful Trumpist foreign policy mantra, proved yet again that President Trump is the best negotiator in modern American or world politics.

Using bombs to force conversation is certainly an option, but it ended up being the best solution for all sides of the war in Iran. While Obama's Iran deal funded radical Islamic terrorism and the spreading of Sharia Law throughout the globe, Trump's deal utilized tariffs, bombs, and blockades to bring Iran up the ramp and into 12 rounds with the 45th and 47th President of the United States.

. . . Sounds great, but others are claiming they've both been taken to the cleaners.

Trump Coulda Been a Contender -- The destruction of a legacy. . .

It’s one of the most justly celebrated moments in cinematic history. In Elia Kazan’s classic movie On the Waterfront (1954), the failed boxer Terry Malloy (Marlon Brando), who was forced to take a dive during the bout that could have established him as a possible challenger for the championship belt, says to his brother, who was in on the fix: “I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am.”

I was going to make the subtitle to this article “Instead of a bum which is what he is,” but it was just too painful. Trump isn’t a bum, and maybe, just maybe, he will eventually right the ship and get on with the business of making America great again. But showering billions on a regime whose leaders routinely scream “Death to America,” and pretending that the evil men who now control that regime are rational people with whom America can do business — that’s the behavior of one of the America-Lasters who has governed this unhappy land in recent decades, not that of the visionary who promised to take on and defeat those who were selling out our interests.

A number of good essays in the links that illustrate both sides of the argument. So, as the President himself is fond of saying, we'll just have to wait and see.

Have a good day,


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1 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (qZb7K)

2 Morning, all!

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (RjOoY)

3 I nood'd

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (qZb7K)

4 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 07:28 AM (jehhT)

5 Islam is incompatible with Western civilization.

Posted by: Paul enjoys sex with his dog at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (rUxRB)

6 Trailblazing Trans Lawmaker Sentenced To Over 33 Years For Child Exploitation

Oh wow. The Thing That Never Happens is Happening Again.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (RjOoY)

7 “You close it and you won’t have a country,” Trump said he told Iranian officials, according to Yingst. “You won’t even make it back to your f*cking country.”
‘You Close It And You Won’t Have A Country’: Trump Reportedly Says US Could Become ‘Guardian Angel’ Of Strait Of Hormuz"


What do you mean "become"? We have been Team America World police there since the 1970s.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (0N4FZ)

8 Good morning again dear horde and happy birthday Mr. JJ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (mWKAz)

9 I trust Trump on the Iran deal far more than establishment critics. Time will indeed tell. Trump has had to deal with Iran constrained by the war-powers act, so has to take them down piecemeal.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 22, 2026 07:32 AM (1VZmA)

10 I think the last few days have made clear the Iran debacle has gone completely off the rails.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:34 AM (mWKAz)

11 As a life long Republican and long time commentator, Trump is a poopy head.

Posted by: A life long Republican and long time commentator at June 22, 2026 07:34 AM (vFG9F)

12 He can't even paint a pool right.

Posted by: A life long Republican and long time commentator at June 22, 2026 07:35 AM (vFG9F)

13 This weekend was the greatest foreign policy disaster in all of American history, JD Vance
spent the entire weekend acting like a sad little monkey on a chain, dancing furiously while a laughing Iranian organ grinder played a crazy tune.

Money is already, today, flowing in to Iran from China, Russia, Pakistan, Qatar, and Turkey. The plan to put Iran under economic pressure has collapsed completely.

This is no plan. This is complete and total failure.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:35 AM (nuNhM)

14 Trump’s approach to Iran has been good overall, but marred IMHO by some recent missteps; namely, the MOU is imperfect to say the least and he’s made so many threats that didn’t materialize they’re beginning to ring hollow.

We severely degraded their military and killed leaders - GOOD

Long fruitless negotiations with hollow threats - Not so good

Yeah, we’ll have to wait and see…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:35 AM (+gA9j)

15 They don't fight to win advantage, political leverage, even regional hegemony.

They fight to kill.

So by all means, let's continue to ignore their straight-up eliminationist policy.

They think they won. They are not defeated.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:37 AM (mWKAz)

16 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at June 22, 2026 07:38 AM (kpbTM)

17 (Yesterday) Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian: “What is certain is that we will never give up our right to enrich uranium, and the other side will have no choice but to accept this. In the past, they demanded that Iran's missiles also be part of the negotiations, but now they say that just as other countries have missiles, Iran should also have the right to possess ballistic missiles. The rules of the game have changed.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:38 AM (nuNhM)

18 This will be the end of Trump. Boy, they've got him now!

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 07:38 AM (vFG9F)

19
Susan Rice popped up this weekend to say the Trump handling of Iran has been a complete failure, which should encourage you all otherwise.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 07:40 AM (Y8DZL)

20 President Trump has shit the bed in regards to Iran.

Go big or go home, but he shit the bed instead, only delaying that which needs to be done. Hopefully he recovers but the bed has been shitted.

Posted by: Clean Sheets Are Needed at June 22, 2026 07:40 AM (g7saB)

21 Every decision I’ve taken has been about putting the country I love first. "

Too bad that wasn't Britain, bunky.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:41 AM (XuXeR)

22 "Susan Rice popped up this weekend to say the Trump handling of Iran has been a complete failure, which should encourage you all otherwise.
Posted by: Auspex"

I'm just disappointed that Rob Reiner is no longer around to give his input.

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 07:42 AM (vFG9F)

23 Susan Rice popped up this weekend to say the Trump handling of Iran has been a complete failure, which should encourage you all otherwise"

Hey, how can we be negative 24/7 with that sort of attitude?

/

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (XuXeR)

24 France will block any attempt to remove UN Security Council sanctions on Iran unless future nuclear negotiations satisfy French requirements and address concerns over Tehran’s missile program and regional proxy groups....

When France says “whoa, slow down , you’re surrendering too fast!” you know you’re in trouble.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (nuNhM)

25 Trump loves to negotiate. Over anything. Everything. All the time. This back and forth is going to continue for quite a while.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (jehhT)

26 >Trump has reshaped the Republican Party into a disciplined political machine,

-----

really?

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (15Vi2)

27 This is why people getting excited about Starmer being driven out is misplaced.

No Labour PM will be better, and in this case might be far worse because of the perception that the rape gang scandal is behind them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (PLxDd)

28 Willowed from Pixy:

The UK is gone, it doesn’t matter who is PM. Even Nigel Farage couldn’t fix it; certainly none of their political class can… they’re all clones. This Burnham guy is another Starmer, perhaps less wooden. No Thatcher out there to save the day… kinda sad but their voters have been digging this hole for decades. The numb skulls threw out Churchill after WWII and it’s been generally downhill since with only the respite from Thatcher applying some brakes on the downhill

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:43 AM (yz/88)

29 As a life long Republican and long time commentator, Trump is a poopy head."

You left out "conserving conservative"

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:44 AM (XuXeR)

30 The UK is gone, "

Never was. Only in imagination.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:45 AM (XuXeR)

31 On some level, I cannot bring myself to believe Europe--England and Germany, Belgium, France, Sweden, Belgium--can possibly fall.

But Eastern Europe fell to Communism for generations. The entire Middle East was once Christian. The city of Constantine was overrun by Muslims and became Istanbul, the Hagia Sophia a mosque.

It can happen, it is happening, and if Europeans do not convulse violently enough to shake off this predator, the same thing will happen.

Meanwhile, in Dearborn, . . .

Posted by: Smallish Bees at June 22, 2026 07:45 AM (xKjWc)

32 “ He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”

Matthew 17:20

Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2026 07:47 AM (oIl0H)

33 It can happen, it is happening"

And always will happen. What most of us think as "normal " is an oddity in human history...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:47 AM (XuXeR)

34 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 07:47 AM (ExV1e)

35 Good again Horde thx JJ.
Willowed : Alan Greenspan is mort. Andrea Mitchell is available.
Keir Starmer resigns.
Who amongst the famous will resign or die to make it three?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:48 AM (Iurxt)

36 As a life long Republican and long time commentator, Trump is a poopy head.
Posted by: A life long Republican and long time commentator at June 22, 2026 07:34 AM (vFG9F)

Get it correct, please. He's a poopy mcpoopyhead!

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 22, 2026 07:49 AM (zBgIx)

37 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at June 22, 2026 07:50 AM (53oGX)

38 Seems to me like the Left waited until Burnham was in to force Starmer out. Burnham is the next leftard chosen one. UK is fucked. Getting rid of Starmer is window dressing because of the reaction from the voters, to try and save the party but probably even moreso to drag the country further left.

UK is done done done. Burnham will be worse and more leftist (if that's possible) by a lot.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 07:51 AM (22ggK)

39 Starmer to be replaced by Burnham? Even worse.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 07:52 AM (EAwQ9)

40 Iranian PM Ghalibaf on Trump’s threats to restart the war:
“Don't they think to themselves that, if their threats had worked, they wouldn't have reached the desperation they face today? We don't take the Americans' threats into account.
They'd better watch their statements; our armed forces are ready to respond in another way. No matter how much they talk, it's we who take action.”

Iran is openly declaring that they are going to do any damn thing they want to, and that Trump won’t have the nerve to do anything about it. Money is already flowing in; arms are flowing in; supplies are flowing in. And oil is flowing out, all restrictions dropped already.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:52 AM (nuNhM)

41 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 07:53 AM (2YhKe)

42 A number of good essays in the links that illustrate both sides of the argument.

So much ink spilled on a matter about which none of the authors knows more than we.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 07:54 AM (ExV1e)

43 Every decision I’ve taken has been about putting the country I love first. That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party. I have spoken to His Majesty the King this morning to inform him of my decision.”


And he goes out a lying sack of shit.

EVERYTHING he did was at the detriment to the people and he's responsible for thousands of rapes and murders.

F*ck you, Kweir Starmer. I hope the people can now sue you for what you've done.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 07:54 AM (2YhKe)

44 First, eliminate the fraud in the system, which is estimated at between $200 billion and $500 billion per year.

I have to assume that those estimates were made prior to the fraud starting to be uncovered. In a $7T budget, I'd guess that at least $4T of it is fraud.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 07:58 AM (ExV1e)

45 Does the UK government just swap out politicians when they fall out of favor?

It seems like a cabal of retards over there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 07:58 AM (jehhT)

46 So much ink spilled on a matter about which none of the authors knows more than we."

Sadly, too many fail to understand the value in shutting up...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (XuXeR)

47 To eliminate fraud in the system, you have to eliminate the system because fraud is the system.

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (zBgIx)

48 Starmer is a murderous lying sack of crap. Good riddance

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (Iurxt)

49 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 07:59 AM (sgkY8)

50 Morn'all.. So another day of Trump's a poopyhead surrenderer vs Trump is a genius...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:00 AM (HtIAP)

51 Read the content, now to the foreshadowing of one of the worst possible 'entertainment' choices ever made: Rosie "Bulldyke" O'Donnell as a stand-up comic to replace the unfunny Jimmy Kimmel. The show will be watched and loved by the trans community and by the hard core, braindead, leftists. There will be a few of we normies who will also watch a few times just to see how bad it is; like watching a train wreck.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 22, 2026 08:00 AM (JNTt1)

52 Starmer falling on a sword so his replacement can still let in the invasion rapists

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 08:01 AM (sgkY8)

53 does anyone outside the UK understand their system of government?

I don't

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:01 AM (15Vi2)

54 While I'm no expert, to say the least, on British politics but no doubt that one of the things that has led to Starmer's departure is the growing scandal of the Muslim rape crisis that has come to light especially over the last year or so. But shockingly Muslim men have been raping non-Muslim women and girls for decades!


But, the muslhams tell me this isn't true. Shame on you, JJ.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:03 AM (2YhKe)

55 So another day of Trump's a poopyhead surrenderer vs Trump is a genius..."

Or, you know, a politician. But hey, some have to complain. Constantly complain.
Every day.

*sigh*

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:03 AM (XuXeR)

56 What's a Keir?

Posted by: Most people at June 22, 2026 08:04 AM (Ov6Yl)

57 but it seems to be kinship, rather than religion, that gives these crimes their systematic and persistent character. Ultimately, though, this remains to be explored properly.


Ah. They're just looking for someone to cuddle with. That makes it all better........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:04 AM (2YhKe)

58
I thought the Heritage Foundation won their suit against Joey and that the Hur tapes were going to be released this morning.

Posted by: Auspex at June 22, 2026 08:04 AM (Y8DZL)

59 Finally, we need to address the elephant in the room: funding Social Security and Medicare. Benefit cuts are off the table so the only solution is tax increases. I propose increasing the Medicare tax from 1.45 percent to 2 percent and the Social Security tax from 6.2 percent to 6.5 percent. In addition, I propose tripling the FICA maximum, currently at $184,750, with a new 7.5-percent crediting rate to preserve the defined benefit nature of the payouts. Implementing these increases would generate about $300 billion per year and keep these programs solvent through the end of the century.

God forbid that we should explore ways to end these programs. Just raise the taxes collected for them every so often until it eats up everything else.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 08:05 AM (ExV1e)

60 the Hur"

Ben?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:05 AM (XuXeR)

61 The uprising in Belfast over the attempted public beheading of a man in broad daylight certainly gives one hope that people are indeed waking up at long last. Still, I'm hesitant to predict a sea change over there, knowing full well that despite being mugged by reality, Leftists/Democrats will lather rinse and repeat and continue to vote for their own destruction.


One thing will happen in the near future. The people returning from the US and her World Cup hosting will demand barbecue and Buc-Ee's to be brought to the country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (2YhKe)

62 When does the SNAP program run out of money?

Posted by: I gotta ask at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (Ov6Yl)

63
Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (FCPbW)

64 38 Seems to me like the Left waited until Burnham was in to force Starmer out. Burnham is the next leftard chosen one. UK is fucked. Getting rid of Starmer is window dressing because of the reaction from the voters, to try and save the party but probably even moreso to drag the country further left.

UK is done done done. Burnham will be worse and more leftist (if that's possible) by a lot.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 07:51 AM (22ggK)

The Morning Rant has always been Eeyore Central.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:07 AM (T6aVk)

65 >So another day of Trump's a poopyhead surrenderer vs Trump is a genius..."
-----

Oh I quit trying to understand what he's doing re: Iran
I scroll right by all that Iran shit on X
SAVE Act posts too
no point

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:07 AM (15Vi2)

66 There's no need to watch Ben Hur on videotape.
We have newer technology now.

Posted by: Wait, wut? at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (Ov6Yl)

67 Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure."

My guess is that there was a lot of DC panic, plus China was making noises. This has shut them up nicely.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (XuXeR)

68 > When does the SNAP program run out of money?
---------
Never.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (jehhT)

69 NFL training camps open next month

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:08 AM (15Vi2)

70 When does the SNAP program run out of money?"

Now that's funny.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (XuXeR)

71 Tanned, rested and ready!

Posted by: Theresa May at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (Ov6Yl)

72 On my computer, I have an article from Maclean’s on the Rotherham rape gangs.

From 2014.

It’s been going on for awhile.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (T6aVk)

73 A number of good essays in the links that illustrate both sides of the argument. So, as the President himself is fond of saying, we'll just have to wait and see.


His main priority and forever stated goal was to not allow the Crimson Jihad become a nuclear power.

He's seemingly accomplished that. If they try again, he will bomb the shit out of them. However, the success of that will lean heavily on who becomes President of the US next.......

Because, yes, EVERYONE knows you can't trust Iran. Even the stupid poopyhead.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:09 AM (2YhKe)

74 thank you, JJ!

I'm'a just wait & see; no one gives a rat's ass about my opinion anyway.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2026 08:10 AM (VyBeY)

75 "NFL training camps open next month"

The nfl hates you but more importantly the hate ME. Not a single cent for those *&^^&&(*().

Posted by: Will Robinson at June 22, 2026 08:10 AM (zBgIx)

76 Sad but revealing - the arguments in favor of the administration’s actions this weekend consist only of “nuh-uh! Nuh-uh! Shut up! Shut up!”

There is no honest defense of the last 48 hours possible.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (nuNhM)

77 It’s been going on for awhile."

Att least those....affected were NQOSD...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (XuXeR)

78 “Sex worker” - because saying “whore” is

1) TOO HARD and
2) not nearly Marxist sounding enough.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (T6aVk)

79 Young RFK Jr looks EXACTLY like Alfred E Neuman

https://tinyurl.com/mr53sdct

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:12 AM (15Vi2)

80 “Sex worker” - because saying “whore” is

1) TOO HARD and
2) not nearly Marxist sounding enough.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (T6aVk)



And 'prostitute' got such a bad connotation during the 'Jack the Ripper' period.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:12 AM (2YhKe)

81
Sir Keir Starmer choked up as he announced his resignation as UK Prime Minister Monday – less than 2 years after the Labour Party stormed to a landslide general election win.

They didn't exactly "storm to a landslide". Their share of votes cast was scarcely different than 2019. They won more seats because Reform took what were usually Tory votes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (O0L8i)

82 I am no policy expert, but I know my president:

https://tinyurl.com/4jv72anf

Posted by: Danimal28 at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (3peS3)

83 God forbid that we should explore ways to end these programs. Just raise the taxes collected for them every so often until it eats up everything else.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 08:05 AM (ExV1e)

Sure, and to hell with people that have been forced to pay into this boondoggle for 50 years only to have the rug snatched from underneath them as they get ready to collect their "benefit"

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (TYCeo)

84 Young RFK Jr looks EXACTLY like Alfred E Neuman"

That's funny

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (XuXeR)

85 Anthropic’s most powerful artificial intelligence model reportedly breached ‘almost all’ US classified systems in a matter of hours, according to Senator Mark Warner, who says the head of the National Security Agency told him directly that the model had penetrated nearly every classified system it was tested against. The claim has not been publicly confirmed by any government agency.

Senator Mark Warner, vice-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said on 11 June that General Joshua Rudd, who leads both the NSA and the Pentagon’s Cyber Command, told him directly that Anthropic’s Mythos model ‘broke into almost all of our classified systems, not in weeks, but in hours.’ The extent of the alleged breach and which specific systems were affected have not been publicly disclosed. Anthropic did not respond to a request for comment.

The warning emerged alongside an abrupt move by the Trump administration to block foreign access to Anthropic’s two most advanced models, Mythos and Fable.

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (O7XEN)

86 The Telegraph: Iran walks out of peace talks after Trump outburst. US president threatens to restart his bombing campaign in expletive-laden phone calls and posts on social media

Ok, $500 billion and he gives the Ayatollah a hand job on tv, then. Whatever makes America a strong winner whom the world respects. 🙄

The biggest problem with this deal is not the deal, it is the dealer. Trump’s word is worthless. He could offer 1 trillion dollars and everyone gets a free Tesla. Whatever he signs is just going to get torn up when his feelings change.

Republicans know they're cooked the moment he croaks. Keeping the cult he fostered is going to be difficult without their god emperor at the helm

Thank goodness we don’t have an emotional woman as president, right everyone who voted for him?

bUt hEr lAuGh!!

Cut off a majority of the world’s fuel/fertilizer while inflaming centuries old conflicts in a already war torn area during the worst El Niño the world has ever seen?! What could go wrong?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (ycI94)

87 Another day of people with opinions. See y'all later.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (ExV1e)

88 NQOSD.
Had to look it up.
Learn something new every day in this place.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (Ov6Yl)

89 If anything, I know that I don’t have nearly enough intel on what is going on behind the scenes with Iran.

I probably will not live long enough to ever see that.

Knowing I don’t know everything going on, I will just observe happenings and shut up about that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:14 AM (T6aVk)

90 Young RFK Jr looks EXACTLY like Alfred E Neuman"

That's funny
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:13 AM (XuXeR)



That Neuman character seems to have gotten around a lot. Between he and Howdy Doody, there's a LOT out there that look like them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:14 AM (2YhKe)

91 It's getting fun watching the Dems come apart. Over the weekend you had the rally where Bernie and Mamdani et al went after the Dem party. Then you have Crockett crapping all over Talarico. There are also a lot of vids in X showing Dem Socialists taking shots at "toxic" Dem party. Add to that fights in the primaries and you have one big Dem mess. Of course the Republicans could screw up the opportunity.....

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (Iurxt)

92 reportedly breached ‘almost all’ US classified systems in a matter of hours, according to Senator Mark Warner"

Reportedly is doing a lot of heavy lifting these days...

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (XuXeR)

93 18 This will be the end of Trump. Boy, they've got him now!
Posted by: fd


Are the WALLS CLOSING IN?! by now.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (RjOoY)

94 Alan Greenspan, the influential economist who steered U.S. monetary policy during his five terms as chairman of the Federal Reserve under four presidents, died Monday, according to his wife, NBC News correspondent Andrea Mitchell.

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM (O7XEN)

95 Then you have Crockett crapping all over Talarico.


Anyone listening or paying attention to either one of those buffoons should be institutionalized as they're buttf*ck insane.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM (2YhKe)

96 It's getting fun watching the Dems come apart"

NO NO NO! WE MUST PANIC NOW.

Or something.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (XuXeR)

97 Burnham replacing Starmer is like Rosie O'Donnell replacing Kimmel.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (22ggK)

98 Three ‘Afghan Nationals’ Ram Speeding Pickup Truck Into Pakistan's Karachi Mosque, Injuring 30

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (O7XEN)

99 Alan Greenspan, the influential economist who steered U.S. monetary policy during his five terms as chairman of the Federal Reserve under four presidents, died Monday, according to his wife, NBC News correspondent Andrea Mitchell.
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM (O7XEN)



Nosferatu no longer lives......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (2YhKe)

100 Are the WALLS CLOSING IN?! by now."

The wheels are closing in. Or the walls are falling off.
Either way, it's baaaad.

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (XuXeR)

101 Episcopal Church puts multimillion-dollar New York headquarters on the market

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (O7XEN)

102 Finally: British Prime Minister Keir Starmer announces resignation

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:19 AM (O7XEN)

103 Ram Speeding Pickup Truck"

Ram or Hilux?

Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:19 AM (XuXeR)

104 Episcopal Church puts multimillion-dollar New York headquarters on the market
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (O7XEN)



New York would consider it a big win should Trump put Trump Tower up for sale. The state would actually buy it just so they could revel in the tearing down any signage with his name on it.

Now, they will never do anything other than house homeless in it, but the lost revenue will lead closer to complete bankruptcy. But they 'got Trump' so......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:20 AM (2YhKe)

105 *The wheels are closing in. Or the walls are falling off.
Either way, it's baaaad.*
---
And I'm circling the drain!

Posted by: The Fat Lady at June 22, 2026 08:20 AM (Ov6Yl)

106 So is the truck salvageable?

Posted by: Priorities people! at June 22, 2026 08:21 AM (Ov6Yl)

107 Ram Speeding Pickup Truck"

Ram or Hilux?
Posted by: man at June 22, 2026 08:19 AM (XuXeR)



If it's actually a Ram, seems the islhamic retards have learned irony.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:21 AM (2YhKe)

108 Burnham replacing Starmer is like Rosie O'Donnell replacing Kimmel.
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:17 AM (22ggK)



Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:22 AM (2YhKe)

109 Dodge pickup injures football club's mascot:

Ram rams Rams' ram

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:23 AM (15Vi2)

110 Alan Greenspan, the influential economist who steered U.S. monetary policy during his five terms as chairman of the Federal Reserve under four presidents, died Monday, according to his wife, NBC News correspondent Andrea Mitchell.
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:16 AM


Well...bye.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2026 08:23 AM (zC76q)

111 So is the truck salvageable?
Posted by: Priorities people! at June 22, 2026 08:21 AM

No problem! It will be buffing right out!

- Ali Bubba, Khyber Pass Body Shop

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2026 08:25 AM (zC76q)

112 I don’t know whether we’re winning or losing with the Iran situation. I personally think it’s a mixed bag. I will say that I saw Bill Maher comment over the weekend that we’ve lost… and while I think Maher is a POS he’s actually a fairly honest broker ( astonishingly) and he favored the Iran action and wanted Trump to go farther… and Maher thinks at this moment at least that we’ve lost (too many hollow threats with no follow through)

That perception that we lost is out there and that’s not good. The Iranian bluster sure sounds like they think they won

I still want power plant day and Kharg island leveled…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (yz/88)

113 Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 08:15 AM (Iurxt)

I've been predicting a circus Dem primary in 2028. With big beats mostly scripted, like pro wrestling. I think they want attention on it to deliver their "message" and that's how they're gonna do it. With one clear winner emerging. Maybe someone serious who can "rise above" it, not sure on that yet. But the primary preferred winner is already known.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (22ggK)

114 "Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure."


To distract from the Epstein Files, of course!

Posted by: davidt at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (Q+gd/)

115 Why Trump took on Iran before the midterms is …..anybody’s guess. Puzzling to be sure.
Posted by: Voter theater. at June 22, 2026 08:06 AM (FCPbW)
-----------------
Very.

I concluded Trump got some news that convinced him he should act, and Pistol Pete (or someone) convinced him he COULD act, and that a bombing campaign would be sufficient to convince the mullahs to make a deal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (7EPvM)

116 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

On the last hole rather than cheer the guy in the lead as he approached the last green they sang happy birthday to the guy 4 shots back who had no way to win. BTW, I like Scottie Scheffler a lot and wish he would’ve won but he was out of contention at that point…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:28 AM (yz/88)

117 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

On the last hole rather than cheer the guy in the lead as he approached the last green they sang happy birthday to the guy 4 shots back who had no way to win. BTW, I like Scottie Scheffler a lot and wish he would’ve won but he was out of contention at that point…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:28 AM



Fans have been getting worse for years. People now feel that with the price of their entry fee, it's well within their right to act a fool and be as obnoxious as they want.

The Ryder Cup has become unwatchable with the obnoxiousness of the onlookers. On BOTH sides of the pond.

People just suck.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:30 AM (2YhKe)

118 Burnham replacing Starmer is like Rosie O'Donnell replacing Kimmel.
Posted by: ...

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Carl Benjamin was making the same point. He viewed the results as generally good for Restrore, bad for Reform, and while temporarily good for Labour, the reason Labour is unpopular because their fundamental beliefs and solutions to problems don't work. You can change the figurehead all you want, but until you change the core values and solutions, they're destined to fail.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (ycI94)

119 "You can’t take back the flag in an hour if the rest of the time you treat patriotism as something vaguely embarrassing."
Bill Maher Rips Into Dems, Kamala For Mocking Patriotism Until They Need Votes

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'Dis be the same Bill Maher who endorses Graham Platner? Has he any awareness of this guy's sentiments and vile ideology as relates to patriotism for America?

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (qBdHI)

120
Well...bye.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2026 08:23 AM (zC76q)



May Andrea's sorrow take her away from her role in the media, permanently.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (2YhKe)

121 Episcopal Church puts multimillion-dollar New York headquarters on the market
Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:18 AM (O7XEN)
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Grok says the EC had 2.4 million members in 2000, and today is below 1.3 million, mostly composed of confused suburban leftists. The skin suit still has some incredibly wealthy churches though.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (fA9NW)

122 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods!

Posted by: NBC Sports at June 22, 2026 08:32 AM (g7saB)

123 Ah! Mid-afternoon stovetop brewed cappuccino!

Opinions?

I've had a few.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (exwma)

124 Mornin’, All. A good Monday to everyone.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (77rzZ)

125 'Dis be the same Bill Maher who endorses Graham Platner? Has he any awareness of this guy's sentiments and vile ideology as relates to patriotism for America?
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2026 08:31 AM (qBdHI)



Bill Maher is an asshole who huffs his own farts and feels he's the smartest human ever to live. He is NOT on your side. He would just as soon shoot you in the face than agree with you on most things.

He does a political talk show and does what he knows will keep people tuning in.

He's a full bore lefty communist.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (2YhKe)

126 Grok says a lot of things.

Posted by: So there's that at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (Ov6Yl)

127 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at June 22, 2026 08:34 AM (Ov6Yl)

128 Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods! Tiger Woods!
Posted by: NBC Sports at June 22, 2026 08:32 AM (g7saB)



Alas, his career seems to be finally over. The jackwagon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:34 AM (2YhKe)

129 The next British PM will be the eighth in 10 years, I think. That's rivaling the French Third Republic in terms of stability in the head of government.

Posted by: Josephistan at June 22, 2026 08:36 AM (y9ksN)

130 The next British PM will be the eighth in 10 years, I think. That's rivaling the French Third Republic in terms of stability in the head of government.
Posted by: Josephistan at June 22, 2026 08:36 AM (y9ksN)



And yet the people keep voting the same way over and over.

But this time......THIS next time will be DIFFERENT.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:37 AM (2YhKe)

131 > People just suck.
--------
Yup

Over the last couple years... probably from around the time *biden was installed through the first two years of Trump II, I've noticed a real uptick in bad behavior.

It's not being dealt with.... properly. Meaning no beat downs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 08:37 AM (jehhT)

132 Sex worker” - because saying “whore” is

1) TOO HARD and
2) not nearly Marxist sounding enough.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 08:11 AM (T6aVk)

Part of the push to make it legal.

And probably the politicians who started using it didn't want anyone horning in on their territory.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:38 AM (22ggK)

133 @113 definitely. A preview is the local and congressional races in blue cities. NYC (90m south of me) has a number of Dem Socialists trying to unseat Dem Congress critters because they're not radical enough. A few may win. It's fun to watch but the crazies will take NYS over the cliff quicker

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 08:38 AM (Iurxt)

134 That perception that we lost is out there and that’s not good. The Iranian bluster sure sounds like they think they won

I still want power plant day and Kharg island leveled…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:26 AM (yz/8

In international politics, perception IS reality. Iran isn’t just talking like they won, they are acting like they won. Pictures circulating of thousands of posters put up in Tehran this weekend, offering $1000 (American) to any man who will volunteer to go to Lebanon and fight for Hezbollah. To be paid for with the money pouring in today.

Iran views the talk about blowing power plants as a giant bluff that Trump doesn’t have the nerve to carry out. They’ve called the bluff.

If there’s to be any hope of salvaging the situation, the US needs to order a massive wave of strikes right now. Sadly, all we see is Vance in Switzerland agreeing that Israel is committing genocide in Lebanon, just to make the Iranians happy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:39 AM (kmEMr)

135 Today Is National Onion Ring Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 08:41 AM (NpAcC)

136 I think there was a female PM who lasted a couple of weeks before quitting

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (15Vi2)

137 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)

138 *It's not being dealt with.... properly. Meaning no beat downs.*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 08:37 AM
###
You get what you tolerate.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (Ov6Yl)

139
If there’s to be any hope of salvaging the situation, the US needs to order a massive wave of strikes right now. Sadly, all we see is Vance in Switzerland agreeing that Israel is committing genocide in Lebanon, just to make the Iranians happy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:39 AM (kmEMr)



Yes, because the Iranians pulled one over on the stupid poopyhead and we're all just slaves to the Iranian regime.

How sad.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (2YhKe)

140 I love onion rings.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (77rzZ)

141 - Indoctrination

What indoctrination in the public schools preceded the rest of the leftist type, and the woke stuff, and ...

Why, that which denied evening, morning, number, day. Evening, morning, number, day...
And we are only going to show you the #science that "proves" this to be wrong.
And you will be so sure of the "knowledge" you have gained that you won't even take the time to look at any discoveries that go against #the science.

Once there, you can make His Word mean anything you want. Or, better yet, deny it altogether.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (ev5l/)

142 136 I think there was a female PM who lasted a couple of weeks before quitting
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM
+++++++
Is this about me?

Posted by: Theresa May at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (Ov6Yl)

143 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)



He said he wanted them to give up their nukes. Period. He accomplished that by blowing the shit out of their nuke facilities. They will not be a nuclear power any time soon.

But we'll go ahead and call him a failure for not accomplishing things WE put as his goal that wasn't originally his goal......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (2YhKe)

144 the Arby's here had great onion rings, but they disappeared from the menu for some reason

I've tried to make onion rings at home
they were not good

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:45 AM (15Vi2)

145 > AI May Actually Be Making Healthcare More Expensive

This is completely and totally predictable. Revelations from former career Pfizer executive is that drugs that quickly heal are dropped in favor of drugs that provide lifelong subscriptions. Cash flow, increasing quarterly returns.

There is also EMTALA and 100M+ foreigners and natives who lead lifestyles that require chronic care offering no means to pay.

The cultural expectations of Health Care Rights drive continued insurance as part of compensation.

There is no profit motive to make care more efficient for as long as a third party is paying. The only motive is to pump up margins and AI fits right in there.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 22, 2026 08:45 AM (a4flb)

146 I love onion rings.
Posted by: Bulg
_________

I hate onions, but will eat onion rings. Or pretty much anything else deep fried.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (XvL8K)

147 I've tried to make onion rings at home
they were not good
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:45 AM (15Vi2)



The batter is the most important part. A good batter, cooked at a perfect oil temp, is key.

The oil needs to be hot, but not too hot where the batter burns.

I never attempt it because I KNOW I won't get it right.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (2YhKe)

148
But we'll go ahead and call him a failure for not accomplishing things WE put as his goal that wasn't originally his goal......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (2YhKe)

It's gonna be another on of those days I see... Sigh

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (HtIAP)

149 The UK situation is hopeless partly because of their system. In the last big election, Labour won a HUGE percentage of parliamentary seats (something like 125 seats beyond what they needed for a majority) and yet only garnered about 33% of the total votes. That’d be like a presidential candidate here winning the electoral college overwhelmingly with only 33% of the vote.

It’s not a good system. I mean yeah if you win 47% and get a parliamentary majority that’s fine… but 33%?? Not a mandate

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (yz/88)

150 I don't know, maybe I'm wrong
it's not unprecedented

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:47 AM (15Vi2)

151 He does a political talk show and does what he knows will keep people tuning in.

He's a full bore lefty communist.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:33 AM (2YhKe)

This more than anything else is what pisses me off so much about what happened this weekend. Trump’s decisions over the last few days are making all the idiot lefty communists look as though they are right for once. Even though all they’re doing is saying what’s obvious to everyone, but everyone on our side is now too terrified to even talk about it. It’s giving them all a cheap and easy win for no reason.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:47 AM (kmEMr)

152 It is so interesting that hard core Democrats of my acquaintance hate Trump so much that they openly root for more attacks on Iran. Even invade (yeah, right, invade a country of 90 million death cultists).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (tNwfv)

153 It's gonna be another on of those days I see... Sigh
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (HtIAP)



Yeah, sorry.

I'll stop.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (2YhKe)

154 thought so

The shortest‑serving UK Prime Minister is Liz Truss, who held office for 49 days in 2022 before resigning.

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (15Vi2)

155 They're not public schools.
They're government schools.
Were they public, anyone could just walk in, sit down, and listen to what's being taught.
Shoot some hoops in the gym.
Check out a book from the library.
Try a meal in the cafeteria.
But you can't.
They're anything BUT open to the public.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (Ov6Yl)

156 Yeah, sorry.

I'll stop.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (2YhKe)

Not you.... The rest of the naysayers... You know... The Military experts here....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (HtIAP)

157 I love onion rings.
Posted by: Bulg
_________

I hate onions, but will eat onion rings. Or pretty much anything else deep fried.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (XvL8K)
******
I love onion rings more than I love french fries.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (NpAcC)

158 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)
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What a load of BS.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (tNwfv)

159
Not you.... The rest of the naysayers... You know... The Military experts here....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (HtIAP)



My egging them on isn't helping.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (2YhKe)

160 "A coronation looks to be looming for Andy Burnham as a major rival pulled out of the race to succeed Keir Starmer.

Wes Streeting declared he will not seek the top job, throwing his weight behind Mr Burnham in the wake of the PM's resignation.

The announcement makes it far more likely that the former Greater Manchester Mayor will be in No10 by this time next month. "

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (GD0B3)

161 The oil needs to be hot, but not too hot where the batter burns.

I never attempt it because I KNOW I won't get it right.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:46 AM (2YhKe)


Use lots of oil and a thermometer. The oil cools when you put the food in, so the more oil...the less cooling!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (PLxDd)

162 It is worth remembering what Trump’s original stated goal in Iran was.
March 6, 2026, Truth Social post:

“ There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!” Following Tehran’s submission to the ongoing military campaign should be “the selection of a GREAT & ACCEPTABLE Leader(s),”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:51 AM (kmEMr)

163 He said he wanted them to give up their nukes. Period. He accomplished that by blowing the shit out of their nuke facilities. They will not be a nuclear power any time soon.

But we'll go ahead and call him a failure for not accomplishing things WE put as his goal that wasn't originally his goal......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:44 AM (2YhKe)

I thought we blew up their nuke capabilities last June. How many times can the same thing be blown up before it’s actually blown up?

Maybe we delayed it some, who knows. Nobody really does. We didn’t end it, that’s for sure.They will be back to doing what right we’re doing the second the ink is dry on the “peace deal”.

And regime change isn’t something WE said. He said it repeatedly. Remember his tweets to the Iranian people that he has their back? Don rewrite history man.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:51 AM (3cXW4)

164
My egging them on isn't helping.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:50 AM (2YhKe)

It's frustrating I know.. I try to not chime in because I'm as far away of an expert in this then you can be but sometimes the doom and gloom gets to me...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:51 AM (HtIAP)

165 So it's a food thread?

Posted by: Just got here at June 22, 2026 08:52 AM (Ov6Yl)

166 >>>Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.

Posted by: Heroq

>I must say, your assessment of the situation is brilliant and you have me convinced. What shall we do?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 08:52 AM (fkjGs)

167 Trump is constrained by American domestic politics. He had to stop so the midterms can be contested and hopefully won. If he needs to return to Iran, I am sure he will (having done so repeatedly over his two terms).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:52 AM (tNwfv)

168 You know... The Military experts here....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:49 AM (HtIAP)


True, but President Trump has not helped his case. He has not spoken to the American people and explained what he is doing and why he is doing it.

That leads to the chaotic analysis and a sort of fill-in-the-blank foreign policy, and that is a problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (PLxDd)

169 SPORTSBRA!!!!

Go boobs!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (2YhKe)

170 Sorry there’s no 11-D chess being played here. Trump thought he could bomb Iran into regime change. Didn’t happen. Gas increased 50%. Then he was stuck and had to make a “peace deal”.
Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:42 AM (3cXW4)
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Give some thought to possibly being wrong.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (tNwfv)

171 Give some thought to possibly being wrong.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (tNwfv)




How DARE you!!??

Posted by: AoS Gretta at June 22, 2026 08:54 AM (2YhKe)

172 They're anything BUT open to the public.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 08:48 AM (Ov6Yl)

Started happening after Columbine and really accelerated after that school shooting in Florida in 2017 (IIRC… the one where David Hogg heroically survived)…. At this point most schools are like fortresses. I went back to my old HS a few years ago in a tiny midwestern town and to my astonishment I couldn’t walk inside… had to be buzzed in by the main office. Security measures doncha know… I mean that tiny town is never gonna have a school shooting but it’s follow the leader amongst the edu-ma-cation class…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 08:55 AM (+gA9j)

173 There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!” Following Tehran’s submission to the ongoing military campaign should be “the selection of a GREAT & ACCEPTABLE Leader(s),”
Posted by: Tom Servo



Also most as if he wanted regime change.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 08:55 AM (3cXW4)

174 FFS.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (2YhKe)

175 Fresh oil will not make as good a ring as somewhat used oil.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (22ggK)

176 >>@TrumpWarRoom
·
5m
>>NEW: Vice President @JDVance
says the United States made significant progress in talks with Iran, building on the MOU:

>>- The Strait of Hormuz remains open
- Iran agreed to allow IAEA inspectors back into the country — a critical step toward ending its nuclear program
- New mechanism was established to help facilitate ceasefires during escalations
- Technical teams were formed to finalize the details over the next 60 days

>>"Yesterday was a very, very good day!"

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (viF8m)

177 True, but President Trump has not helped his case. He has not spoken to the American people and explained what he is doing and why he is doing it.

That leads to the chaotic analysis and a sort of fill-in-the-blank foreign policy, and that is a problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 08:53 AM (PLxDd)

I see your point.. He could cut back on the bombast... Seems like Trump is the bad cop and Vance is the good cop...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (HtIAP)

178
>>"Yesterday was a very, very good day!"
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (viF8m)



They're lying. Everything is a failure and they should resign in disgrace.

Run Gavin. You're our only hope.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (2YhKe)

179 The Iran deal is either the best thing eva or the worst thing eva, depending what and who you read...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (l3cgK)

180 Glad I got back from town to read Tehran Tom's analysis.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (afJtY)

181 My wife used to make very good baked onion rings.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (77rzZ)

182 178
>>"Yesterday was a very, very good day!"
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 08:56 AM (viF8m)


They're lying. Everything is a failure and they should resign in disgrace.

Run Gavin. You're our only hope.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (2YhKe)

He isn't the 'roid you're looking for...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (l3cgK)

183 "Seyed Abbas Araghchi
@araghchi
11h
Tireless Pakistani and Qatari mediation has delivered major progress to end Lebanon War. Oil and petrochem exports are waived, blockade lifted, some frozen assets released, and major reconstruction & development plan launched for Iran."

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (GD0B3)

184 Yes, because the Iranians pulled one over on the stupid poopyhead and we're all just slaves to the Iranian regime.

How sad.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 08:43 AM (2YhKe)

Serious question: do you have any argument beyond “nuh uh! Nuh uh!” ????

I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)

185 Good morning, everyone!

Someone I work with occasionally is on site today. She brought me a bag of homemade cookies - white chocolate macadamia - and they're AWESOME!!

She put a slice of bread in the bag. This is supposed to keep the cookies from drying out too quickly. I did not know this was a thing. Did any of you??

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (jDdwC)

186 there should be a batter recipe
anyway, I shit-canned my deep fryer because it was kind of a PITA to use and clean

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (15Vi2)

187 I miss Doof.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (2YhKe)

188 millennial Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.), said in 2019 that an entire generation “came of age and never saw American prosperity,” and then whined, “I have never seen that, or experienced it, really, in my adult life.”

~~ Andy Kessler
---------------------------

Maybe get productive work AOC, and you might become prosperous

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (gMz7B)

189 Kier needs to be run out of the country. The Henry Nowak case was the final nail in his coffin .
I hope the people in the UK are finally realizing that they have been invaded by Muslims who refuse to assimilate and want to take over Europe.

Next they need to get rid of the Muslim mayor of London, Sadiq Khan.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (NpAcC)

190 Heroq this is going to be one of those points you make over and over until the inevitable. I think your position is known.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (22ggK)

191 Sex Workers Visit Capitol Hill With a Message for Woke Congressional Staffers: The ‘Affordability Crisis’ Is Hard on Prostitutes, Too

I guess they'll have to charge more than $20, same as in town?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (l3cgK)

192 >>True, but President Trump has not helped his case. He has not spoken to the American people and explained what he is doing and why he is doing it.

>>That leads to the chaotic analysis and a sort of fill-in-the-blank foreign policy, and that is a problem.

We've had a lot of presidents who specialize in talking to the public and we ended up with mullahs in Iran threatening nuclear armaggedon and funding terrorists for 50 years. Now we have a president who is a businessman who likes to make deals. Most effective deals are not negotiated in public.

Besides, what would the seemingly endless supply of experts do with their time and pixels if they couldn't endlessly explain everything that guy said is bullshit and I know cause I'm an expert?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:01 AM (viF8m)

193 She put a slice of bread in the bag. This is supposed to keep the cookies from drying out too quickly. I did not know this was a thing. Did any of you??
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (jDdwC)



Yes. First Lady has been doing this for years should we have a batch of cookies that won't be devoured in the first 2 hours.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:01 AM (2YhKe)

194 186 there should be a batter recipe
anyway, I shit-canned my deep fryer because it was kind of a PITA to use and clean

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (15Vi2)

When it comes to baking and cooking,
There's the batter recipe and the wurst recipe...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:01 AM (l3cgK)

195 Crude oil is at $75.76 . The economy will boom with lower oil prices

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (Iurxt)

196
I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)



I simply believe that everything you just said is bullshit. We'll just go to our respective corners and call it even, eh?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (2YhKe)

197 >My wife used to make very good baked onion rings.

Posted by: Bulg
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interesting

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (15Vi2)

198 It'd be nice that the same people who are going all "Mark Levin" over the Iran dear--screeching, yelling, same thing over and over--would take a moment to consider:

The same media cheering and encouraging failure of Lincoln Reflecting Pool--one of our greatest American monuments; ffs of all things to shit on just "cause Trump"--are the same people you are reading to be "informed" on Iran.

So maybe you all can just sit down, drink some warm cocoa and calm your tits?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (73/SM)

199 You know, first time in my life I am not watching any sports

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (sgkY8)

200 I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)


The Battle of Bataan? Vietnam? The US Embassy in Tehran in 1979?

You are being histrionic. We have no idea how this will play out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)

201 196
I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)


I simply believe that everything you just said is bullshit. We'll just go to our respective corners and call it even, eh?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (2YhKe)

Um, Hello?

Posted by: Vietnam and Afghanistan at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (l3cgK)

202 Yes we really blew it electing this Trump guy. We will have to wait it out until the next Presidential election. Maybe we can get Kamala and Hunter in office and straighten this country out. In the meantime let's bitch, riot and loot. Also elect as many Democrats as we can. Look to California to show us the way! Also, green water is not so bad.
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Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (IY9No)

203
180 Glad I got back from town to read Tehran Tom's analysis.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 08:58 AM (afJtY)

You’re wrong Ben, and you know it. The reason you bought into the “Iranian propaganda “ op was because you knew the deal as reported was utterly indefensible. You did not want to believe it, but now you know it’s true.

It’s quite sad to see someone of your intelligence and ability slide into nothing but personal insults, because your intellectual position is totally bankrupt. You’re better than that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (kmEMr)

204 anyway, I shit-canned my deep fryer because it was kind of a PITA to use and clean

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (15Vi2)



This. A good deep frier is hard to get, unless you have a restaurant and enough space to install one. The countertop versions you get at WalMart or off Amazon are usually hot garbage.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (2YhKe)

205
You are being histrionic. We have no idea how this will play out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)

Where's the fun in that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (HtIAP)

206 205
You are being histrionic. We have no idea how this will play out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)

Where's the fun in that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (HtIAP)

You can always bet on the outcome...I wonder what the odds makers are putting it at?

Posted by: Vietnam and Afghanistan at June 22, 2026 09:04 AM (l3cgK)

207 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (l3cgK)

That's why I'm not reading anything about it, and skipped to the bottom of the comments . I'm reading
neither dead tree reports, internet reports or comments from ASHQ commentators. I am grateful everyday for what J.J . does here but I can do without the vitriol of arguing posters today. It's my day off 🙂

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (n3VHW)

208 We have no idea how this will play out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (PLxDd)



But but but.......You KNOW it's true!!!!! YOU'RE AFRAID TO ADMIT IT!!!!!!


I'll be going to work soon.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (2YhKe)

209 oof, off sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (l3cgK)

210 Not you.... The rest of the naysayers... You know... The Military experts here....
Posted by: It's me donna

That's like 85% of commenters here! It is a smart military blog after all..m

Posted by: Military Moron at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (ycI94)

211 simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 08:59 AM (kmEMr)


She would have pre surrendered without the bombing.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (3cXW4)

212 The countertop versions you get at WalMart or off Amazon are usually hot garbage.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (2YhKe)


I have an enclosed rotating fryer that works great! Except it is a pain to clean, so I never use it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (PLxDd)

213 If Iran is Trump's biggest fuck up then we are in amazing shape.

He has his reasons for what he does, I don't think he is owned or fooled, he tries to get shit done. Maybe this is a failure - maybe not.

I would not call it humiliating, that's ludicrous. He tried shit, and might still be trying, no way we know the full story. Trump does and says things that look bad all the time and usually but not always, gets vindicated. Still trust him at the helm more than anyone and I don't think there is *anyone* that would have taken this Iran thing further than he will or would, if at all.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (22ggK)

214 207 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 08:57 AM (l3cgK)

That's why I'm not reading anything about it, and skipped to the bottom of the comments . I'm reading
neither dead tree reports, internet reports or comments from ASHQ commentators. I am grateful everyday for what J.J . does here but I can do without the vitriol of arguing posters today. It's my day off 🙂

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 09:05 AM (n3VHW)

Honestly, I didn't read those either, just looked at the JJ headlines, which indicate it's wonderful or horrible. No middle ground. So, I'll wait for Iran to violate it again, because they will.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (l3cgK)

215 So, about that Lincoln guy…

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (77rzZ)

216 It's also, National Chocolate Eclair Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (NpAcC)

217 Bladensburg is probably the most humiliating American defeat in history.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (XvL8K)

218 215 So, about that Lincoln guy…

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (77rzZ)

I bought his logs!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (l3cgK)

219 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (PLxDd)


SAVED by a clever edit!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (2YhKe)

220 The Internets are full of experts in war, politics, Middle East, the UK, etc.

Just ask them.

You'll get a long form pontification on shit they know absolutely nothing about. It's all opinion pieces. Which is fine once you take all the posts as just that.

Everyone has something to say... Trump has to filter out the garbage too. And, sadly, he is supposed to have actual "experts" advising him.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT)

221 Maybe Graham Platner should move to the UK, he can't be worse than Keir Starmer as PM.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:07 AM (2GVsD)

222 >I must say, your assessment of the situation is brilliant and you have me convinced. What shall we do?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

Have you considered a large donation to the Republican National Committee? We only control three thirds of government right now, but with your support, we can expand our majorities to finally enact the policy priorities you hold!!!

Posted by: RNC at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (ycI94)

223 Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (22ggK)

I understand your point, but the perception in the Arab/Muslim world of strength or weakness is often more important than the reality. And at this point, the agreement is chaotic at best. We won't know how it shakes out for weeks or months, but....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (PLxDd)

224 >I have an enclosed rotating fryer that works great! Except it is a pain to clean, so I never use it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
----

this is what I'm saying
I can do french fries in oil in an iron skillet, but that's the extent of my frying

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:09 AM (15Vi2)

225 We won't know how it shakes out for weeks or months, but....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (PLxDd)



We shouldn't wait. We should light our hair on fire, storm the capital and demand the head of the Golden Scalp Weasel for his stupid poopyhead incompetence.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:09 AM (2YhKe)

226 we really blew it electing this Trump guy. We will have to wait it out until the next Presidential election. Maybe we can get Kamala and Hunter in office and straighten this country out.



How about a 3rd option. It’s good Trump won but he has made mistakes and should be called out when he makes those mistakes.

Too radical?

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:09 AM (3cXW4)

227 Story out of north of Houston, some muzzie bitch who's an known agitator, confronted some gal in an grocery store.

Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.

Of course she was fired.

But her GSG had over $50k last I saw.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (73/SM)

228 A note on the IAEA inspectors. There were there , in Iran, "inspecting", until 7/4/2025.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (GD0B3)

229 Happy Monday, all!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (X8xt3)

230 *They not there

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (GD0B3)

231 It's also, National Chocolate Eclair Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:06 AM (NpAcC)


Not a fan.

Unless you're talking about the Good Humor ice cream bar!

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (jDdwC)

232 Of course she was fired.

But her GSG had over $50k last I saw.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:10 AM (73/SM)



So, this is the new grift, then.......wonderful.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (2YhKe)

233 >>Story out of north of Houston, some muzzie bitch who's an known agitator, confronted some gal in an grocery store.

Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.



Just great. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (X8xt3)

234 I'm lying right here.

Posted by: The Dead Horse at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (amcLV)

235 I'm lying right here.
Posted by: The Dead Horse at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (amcLV)



Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 22, 2026 09:12 AM (2YhKe)

236 If we can find anything "funny" about the Iran situation it's watching the lib press and Dems, demanding Trump go back in and blast the Mullah's to smithereens....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:12 AM (HtIAP)

237 note on the IAEA inspectors. There were there , in Iran, "inspecting", until 7/4/2025.
Posted by: runner


SEC didn’t see anything wrong with Bernie Madoff’s operation for decades.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (3cXW4)

238 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2026 09:08 AM (PLxDd

Trump is always willing to play a long game. He is also always willing to sacrifice things that others would not to achieve his goals. This is gamesmanship and basic strategy, not 27D Space Chess.

When you are up against someone whose rules you can't quite make out it makes them formidable. The "rules" should have been don't risk Iran before the midterms. The "rules" should have been don't risk looking weak.

There are a lot of rules and *no one*, despite the many many experts on the subject, knows what Trump's really are. We can all guess but that's all we and his/our opponents are left doing. It *seems* he wants peace at any price and to not directly endanger civilians. Seems. But I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (22ggK)

239 235 I'm lying right here.
Posted by: The Dead Horse at June 22, 2026 09:11 AM (amcLV)


Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 22, 2026 09:12 AM (2YhKe)

We're always lying on the job.

Posted by: Politicians at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (l3cgK)

240
That’d be like a presidential candidate here winning the electoral college overwhelmingly with only 33% of the vote.

Yo!

Posted by: John Quincy Adams, 1824 (32.7%) at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (O0L8i)

241 So...if I'm tracking those Iran articles right...nobody knows what the f*** is going on.

Glad to see I'm not alone!

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (OUMaO)

242 >>millennial Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.), said in 2019 that an entire generation “came of age and never saw American prosperity,” and then whined, “I have never seen that, or experienced it, really, in my adult life.”


Beyotch who grew up un a chichi NY suburb, went to BC, and now lives with her wealthy BF in a nice BC condo says whaaaaat?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (X8xt3)

243 If Hezbollah is still active, as it is now, whatever agreement is reached with Iran will fall apart.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (GD0B3)

244 237 note on the IAEA inspectors. There were there , in Iran, "inspecting", until 7/4/2025.
Posted by: runner

I wouldn't trust them for anything.....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (HtIAP)

245 Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.

Lizzy
-------

My kinda gal

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (22ggK)

246 Beyotch who grew up un a chichi NY suburb, went to BC, and now lives with her wealthy BF in a nice BC condo says whaaaaat?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (X8xt3)



Forget it. She's rolling.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2YhKe)

247 Better to let IKEA inspect Iran?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2GVsD)

248 >>I understand your point, but the perception in the Arab/Muslim world of strength or weakness is often more important than the reality. And at this point, the agreement is chaotic at best. We won't know how it shakes out for weeks or months, but....

That is true. The GCC is pretty much in lockstep against Iran right now and they don't appear to be wavering. If we are going to judge how things are going by their attitudes it's looking pretty good for the Orange Man.

For the umpteenth time, Trump is attempting to end this situation with a positive outcome with a deal not with bombs. It looks different because it is different. Iraq and Libya are examples of wars that ended with bombs and bullets, how did that turn out?

Deals require patience not constant freakouts over moves we may or not completely understand because they are not negotiating in public. I've seen nothing from Trump over the last decade to make me think he's gone soft.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (viF8m)

249
My kinda gal
Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (22ggK)



Nothing she said was incorrect.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2YhKe)

250 Tom, I know exactly as much as you do.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (afJtY)

251 243 If Hezbollah is still active, as it is now, whatever agreement is reached with Iran will fall apart.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:14 AM (GD0B3)

The Hezzies and the Houthi rolls in Yemen need to be put down hard like the rabid dogs they are. Oh, and F**k the Iranian mullahs for their support of the above.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (l3cgK)

252 Better to let IKEA inspect Iran?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2GVsD)
-----------
They can do anything with an Allen wrench.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (amcLV)

253 Today is Pookette's first day of a local day camp. She's never done anything like this before, but I think she's far less nervous than her mom. ><

Posted by: pookysgirl, worried about her baby bird's wings at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (Wt5PA)

254 I miss Doof.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:00 AM (2YhKe)
******
What happened to Doof?
I've been extremely busy for the past six weeks so I'm sure I've missed a lot.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (NpAcC)

255 240
That’d be like a presidential candidate here winning the electoral college overwhelmingly with only 33% of the vote.

Yo!
Posted by: John Quincy Adams, 1824 (32.7%) at June 22, 2026 09:13 AM (O0L8i)

Hi.

Posted by: House of Representatives voting as states at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (T6aVk)

256 252 Better to let IKEA inspect Iran?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 22, 2026 09:15 AM (2GVsD)
-----------
They can do anything with an Allen wrench.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:16 AM (amcLV)

I always wonder why I end up with all those extra pieces...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (HtIAP)

257 What happened to Doof?
I've been extremely busy for the past six weeks so I'm sure I've missed a lot.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (NpAcC)



I heard Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread and Doof is now causing havoc at Weasel Acres.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)

258 Heard there's a new Werner Herzog movie out w/Armie Hammer as the lead - a Death Wish type revenge flick that is based on current events in Europe. Already banned in Germany, guess it upset the demographic that is always offended (no, the other one that doesn't wave a rainbow flag).

Well, well, well. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (X8xt3)

259 That means last night was Onion Ring Eve.
And I forgot to celebrate.

Posted by: Dang it at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (Ov6Yl)

260 Then recorded her response where she said islam isn't welcome here, it's not a religion, they need to go back, and mo' was a pedophile warlord.


no lies detected

good for her

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (j+aD2)

261
The waters have receded somewhat and we can go out so that Her Majesty can get her nails done and we can do some grocery shopping.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (O0L8i)

262 Today is Pookette's first day of a local day camp. She's never done anything like this before, but I think she's far less nervous than her mom. >
Posted by: pookysgirl, worried about her baby bird's wings at June 22, 2026 09:17 AM (Wt5PA)



She'll be fine. It's everyone else you'll have to worry about.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)

263 Did Doof get too close to Soup and catch a tumor from him, too?

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (77rzZ)

264 >>>Trump's deal utilized tariffs, bombs, and blockades to bring Iran up the ramp and into 12 rounds with the 45th and 47th President of the United States.

Doesn't sound like 11D chess to me.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (dK+Kv)

265 I heard Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread and Doof is now causing havoc at Weasel Acres.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)
--------
First Piper, now Doof. Been a rough June.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (amcLV)

266 And, here a thought, what happens if Iran, because of some excuse - for example Hezbollah shooting rockets at Israeli villages in the north and Israel hitting them back, closes the strait in October 2026, right before the election.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (GD0B3)

267 --------
First Piper, now Doof. Been a rough June.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (amcLV)



It's a haunting development.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (2YhKe)

268 One last bit of foolishness this weekend, outside of the negotiations:
“ On Sunday, Trump told Fox News he was "disappointed Israel can't put Hezbollah away", adding in reference to the fight against the militant group: "I'm close to giving it over to Syria."

6 hours later, our new ally Syrian President Al Sharra replied, on the record, that “No one from Syria is going into Lebanon. No one from Syria is going to fight Hezbollah.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (kmEMr)

269 "...Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread..."
####
It's just a flesh wound.

Posted by: The Black Knight at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (Ov6Yl)

270 A lot of it is we want to categorize everything.

There is a soft "Trump can't do wrong" crowd and a "We should be able to criticize Trump" contingent and then a "here's our chance to GIT em" noise machine that is very annoying. Maybe not all here this morning.

But everyone wants to judge everything. Bottom line, R's will take the midterms unless they are cheated out of it, and they 100% do NOT deserve to take it. Not because of Trump but because they are useless and HATE their own voters.

That's a bigger problem than Iran right now. Much.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (22ggK)

271 No matter what the outcome is, Iran won’t abide by any of it we know this is how they operate. They’ll make 100 promises to end nuclear programs and then ignore all those promises.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

272 265 I heard Weasel shot him during last night's gun thread and Doof is now causing havoc at Weasel Acres.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)
--------
First Piper, now Doof. Been a rough June.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 22, 2026 09:19 AM (amcLV)

What happened? I've been in and out for a few months now...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (l3cgK)

273 End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Colombians are now flooding the streets to celebrate the fall of socialism

https://tinyurl.com/yxreszjp

Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (NpAcC)

274 271 No matter what the outcome is, Iran won’t abide by any of it we know this is how they operate. They’ll make 100 promises to end nuclear programs and then ignore all those promises.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

Just another Taquiya Sunrise...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (l3cgK)

275 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)

276 - @155 Quarter Twenty

True but, distinction without a difference.
The common terms used are public schools and private schools.
It changes nothing about the point of my post.

And this is why I'm never all hair on fire.
I know that God wrote it all out, beginning to end, before He laid the foundations of the world. To the "smallest detail." Including each of our lives.

We were given the Cliff Notes. Enough to teach us about who He is. Proven through His miracles and fulfillment of things told beforehand through His prophets.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (ev5l/)

277 It still amazes me that for a non-trivial number of people it is worse to be called racist then it is to watch a coordinated group rape its way through your women.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (sKqQm)

278 199 You know, first time in my life I am not watching any sports
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 09:02 AM (sgkY

Last sporting event I saw were the Olympics. (Yeah, I can hear the booing.). I still savor the men’s hockey gold, knowing that a horrible country lost to the USA.

I love that the foreign visitors are discovering this great country (I implore that they see the countryside, get out of the cities. They are fine but the REAL goodies are out in the countryside) but soccer still sucks and is bloody boring.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:22 AM (T6aVk)

279 Colombians are now flooding the streets to celebrate the fall of socialism


A few years ago the socialist despot of Columbia assassinated his opponent and everyone just pretended it was a one off crazy guy acting on his own.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (sKqQm)

280
What the hell is wrong with these people?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (sKqQm)



People will label them racist, and some can't live with bad people calling them bad things.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (2YhKe)

281 Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)

I ruined millions of UK citizens’ lives?

So be it.

Posted by: PM Keir Starmer at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (T6aVk)

282 I haven't watched sports in ages now. Was never really into baseball, hockey, basketball, or soccer. The NFL's behavior turned me off to Football; I don't even watch the SuperBowel...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (l3cgK)

283 Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

Do you think there is a tenable solution with them?

I'm not saying what's happening is right. I mean beyond that. Genuine query, I really want to know what you think.

Because short of blowing them off the map......

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (22ggK)

284 >>It still amazes me that for a non-trivial number of people it is worse to be called racist then it is to watch a coordinated group rape its way through your women.


Well, there's also the stabbings, beheadings, acid attacks, church burnings. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (X8xt3)

285 I simply believe that the most humiliating surrender in American military history is worth noting. This is what I would have expected from a President Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo
--
"humiliating surrender?"
Ya kinda gave the whole game away there bub--you might just want to sit down from here on out.

But you won't.

Remember how like last week you were swearing up and down that Rubio wanted nothing to do with this deal, had nothing to do with it, and was distancing himself from it?

Only for Rubio to be standing right behind Trump as the MOU was signed?

Opps.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (73/SM)

286 I saw a little bit of metric football recently and wow is that sport boring.

Too slow
Too many players on the field
Too much of two guys dancing with each other where nothing happens in relation to scoring outside of their personal foreplay

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (sKqQm)

287 283 Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:20 AM (3cXW4)

Do you think there is a tenable solution with them?

I'm not saying what's happening is right. I mean beyond that. Genuine query, I really want to know what you think.

Because short of blowing them off the map......

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (22ggK)

Will that work?

Posted by: Kumala Whoris at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (l3cgK)

288 Um, Hello?

Posted by: Vietnam and Afghanistan at June 22, 2026 09:03 AM (l3cgK)

That's totally not histrionics.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (dK+Kv)

289 She'll be fine. It's everyone else you'll have to worry about.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:18 AM (2YhKe)

I'm not passing on what you just said to Pooky, because then he'll go over to his dad's gun locker to pick out a shotgun.

Posted by: pookysgirl is smarter than that at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (Wt5PA)

290 >>Colombians are now flooding the streets to celebrate the fall of socialism


Has anyone noticed that since USAID was crushed communists aren't doing so well in elections in Latin America?

Just a coincidence I'm sure.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (viF8m)

291 The Colombian Socialist is throwing a tantrum demanding recounts.

How Socialist of him.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (T6aVk)

292 I'm not passing on what you just said to Pooky, because then he'll go over to his dad's gun locker to pick out a shotgun.

Posted by: pookysgirl is smarter than that at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (Wt5PA)



Ah. Likely a good call.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (2YhKe)

293 We were given the Cliff Notes. Enough to teach us about who He is. Proven through His miracles and fulfillment of things told beforehand through His prophets.
Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM
----

(Searches bible for Book Of Cliff.)

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (Ov6Yl)

294 Iran, by itself, cannot "close" Hormuz.

Shipping companies have to oblige too. And they are all too willing to abide because they're cowards and rely on the insurance industry to protect their assets.

Plus, the majority of the crews who man those commercial vessels are typically 3rd worlders with hardly any education... but a whole lot of superstition.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (jehhT)

295 Starmer is out, but does his just-implemented social media ban for kids, but really a digital oversight network of all citizens, remain in place?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (X8xt3)

296 Here is my plan! The US takes over the strait now. As it should have month ago. Because while Iran has not much of military leverage left, it never really relied on their military to bully the world did they. They lost the Iraq war. They lost to arabs! But that is not their strength, their navy did not rule the seas , and their air force did not rule the skies. Terrorism is. And they are still in that game. They created a chokepoint in the strait with a fe mines, and they are still pulling Hezbollah (and Hamas and Houthi) strings who is holding Lebanon hostage.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (GD0B3)

297
Has anyone noticed that since USAID was crushed communists aren't doing so well in elections in Latin America?

Just a coincidence I'm sure.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:25 AM (viF8m)

I won’t argue against it.

But Socialism also leads to problems people realize can be put to an end by voting for people with good policies.

I’d say it’s both. Cutting USAID DOES help a great deal.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (T6aVk)

298 Asymmetric warfare, baby.

Posted by: runner at June 22, 2026 09:27 AM (GD0B3)

299 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)

Leftard puppets are so weird.

Though on this note, Lizzy, I had a crazy realization over the weekend. I've always known I only ever saw my stoic yet warm father cry a single tear in his life - when he received news of an aunt's death. One tear. And *yet* that's still one more entire genuine tear than I ever saw my narcissist BPD histrionic mother cry.

Mind blowing!

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:28 AM (22ggK)

300 294 Iran, by itself, cannot "close" Hormuz.

Shipping companies have to oblige too. And they are all too willing to abide because they're cowards and rely on the insurance industry to protect their assets.

Plus, the majority of the crews who man those commercial vessels are typically 3rd worlders with hardly any education... but a whole lot of superstition.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 22, 2026 09:26 AM (jehhT)

There are also plenty of pipelines that lead to the Red Sea and can otherwise get around the Strait of Hormuz.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:28 AM (T6aVk)

301 when does art class start

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (15Vi2)

302 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)



Crying while lying about how EVERYTHING he did was for the PEOPLE of the UK...........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (2YhKe)

303 I ruined millions of UK citizens’ lives?

So be it.
Posted by: PM Keir Starmer at June 22, 2026 09:23 AM (T6aVk)
----
I call for a vote to give Supreme Chancellor Palpatine Prime Minister Starmer emergency powers!

Posted by: Jar Jar Binks at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (gnNyN)

304 when does art class start
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (15Vi2)



45 seconds.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (2YhKe)

305 Do you think there is a tenable solution with them?

I'm not saying what's happening is right. I mean beyond that. Genuine query, I really want to know what you think.

Because short of blowing them off the map......
Posted by: ... at

If past performance is an indicator of future expectations then I don’t see it. Thats why to me it’s binary. Either you get rid of them or you’re stuck with the same shit we’ve been dealing with for 50 years. There’s now middle ground with these people.

Which is why it’s frustrating for me to see Trump fall into this trap every other president has fallen into. You’d think k after 50 years one of them would finally learn.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (3cXW4)

306 286 I saw a little bit of metric football recently and wow is that sport boring.

Too slow
Too many players on the field
Too much of two guys dancing with each other where nothing happens in relation to scoring outside of their personal foreplay
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 09:24 AM (sKqQm)

I like the idea of keeping the same amount of players but reducing the size of the field - sorry, the pitch - by one half.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (T6aVk)

307 >>Has anyone noticed that since USAID was crushed communists aren't doing so well in elections in Latin America?


Yes.
Also helps that Trump took Maduo, is squeezing Cuba, and South Americans have witnesses the success of Bukele and Millei.

A whole lot of proof that decline is a choice, and it's possible to choose better!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (X8xt3)

308 Keir Starmer cried during his resignation announcement?

Holy sh#t, crying over your failed career instead of the 100's of thousands (millions?) of UK citizen's lives you've ruined is quite bad.
Posted by: Lizzy
+++
Well.... That would be because he actually cares about his career.
His doesn't give a rats ass about all those Brit citizens.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (Lo97M)

309 >>I’d say it’s both. Cutting USAID DOES help a great deal.

I don't think anyone would argue that there isn't a freedom, for lack of a better word, movement in many if not most countries. There has also been widespread and coordinated corruption by those who want to foster tyrannical rule that made it impossile for those movements to succeed.

Remove the tyranny and look what happens. Here included.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (viF8m)

310 Here's where I am:

I read the review of the Vigilante movie, which was 100% bad, and immediately thought, Great, I want to see it. Make a lot of sequels.

Posted by: Wenda at June 22, 2026 09:30 AM (iIAkP)

311 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 22, 2026 09:31 AM (2YhKe)

312 >>One tear. And *yet* that's still one more entire genuine tear than I ever saw my narcissist BPD histrionic mother cry.

Mind blowing!



Indeed!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 22, 2026 09:32 AM (X8xt3)

313 Burnham would come to Dunce Inane Hill.

Posted by: three weird sisters at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (pBJ6M)

314 Which is why it’s frustrating for me to see Trump fall into this trap every other president has fallen into. You’d think k after 50 years one of them would finally learn.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (3cXW4)

Yeah and I can't say as I disagree. Maybe he thought he could get it done, maybe he had intelligence that hasn't been shared. Maybe he got bad info, and zipped up and put in a sack by some bad actors that knew what would get his motor going. Wouldn't be the first time.

If nothing else it's showing the world what it is up against. And *may* (key word) be setting the nuke program back which is likely the least we or anyone including Israel has been able to do.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:33 AM (22ggK)

315 Either you get rid of them . . . .

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:29 AM (3cXW4)

Which means what, exactly, militarily?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (dK+Kv)

316 As much of a wanker as Starmer is, relatively speaking he didn’t do much damage to the UK. The damage was already done long before he got there.

Blair opened the door to millions of 3rd World “migrants” in the 90s and 00s then Conservatives ruled for 14 years between 2010 and 2024, keeping the door wide open.

It’s kinda like Blair set fire to the house, Cameron and Boris Johnson puted gas on it and then Starmer gets blamed for the fire when firefighters show up because the other two ran away.

Posted by: Heroq at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (3cXW4)

317 Maybe I wrote it wrong:

The muzzie lady, in full burka, provoked the white lady (called her a "cracker" by reports), and then recorded the white lady's response, calling mo' a pedo, etc.

The white lady was the one fired, not the muzzie.

(LOL at the thought of some garbage bag wearing muzzie having a job (other than farming government welfare).

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (73/SM)

318 Nothing happened to Doof. He's at the spa getting a pedicure. I think Piper suggested it.

Posted by: Case at June 22, 2026 09:34 AM (IY9No)

319 Killing the leaders has been nice. Hopefully he got some real Friends of Democrats in those strikes.

To me that would make the whole effort worth it. There are other considerations too, like putting Europe and China on their back heel.

But talking strictly about Iran as it stands here, they are gonna be a thorn in earth's side for a long time.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (22ggK)

320 But talking strictly about Iran as it stands here, they are gonna be a thorn in earth's side for a long time.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (22ggK)

It's a silly point to argue, because there is not one person that does not realize such. The question is how to deal with them. And can our current course bear fruit at all?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (dK+Kv)

321 Scott Bessent just authorized Iranian oil sales for 60 days based on the progress of the negotiations in Switzerland. Obviously, the Strait is open.

Guess who else needs the Strait open to sell the product that makes up a huge precentage of their national GDP?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:41 AM (viF8m)

322 Western hemisphere results seem to suggest yes. I am willing to give a little rope to accomplish our ME goals.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:42 AM (dK+Kv)

323 It's a silly point to argue, because there is not one person that does not realize such. The question is how to deal with them. And can our current course bear fruit at all?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:40 AM (dK+Kv)

There is only one way to deal with them and no one really wants it because it will involve many innocents dead. There is probably more to this than meets the eye so simple Twitter wins and losses are the real silliness here.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (22ggK)

324 But talking strictly about Iran as it stands here, they are gonna be a thorn in earth's side for a long time.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:38 AM (22ggK)

We chide the left for being perpetually online, but we have our own contingent, too, who are subject to any and all foreign influence ops that come down the pike.

Musk did me a solid.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (dK+Kv)

325 There is probably more to this than meets the eye

My money's on robots in disguise.

Posted by: far cry at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (pBJ6M)

326 CP fail.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (dK+Kv)

327 Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:46 AM (dK+Kv)

He did indeed. Social media is a virus

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:47 AM (22ggK)

328 There is only one way to deal with them and no one really wants it because it will involve many innocents dead.

Posted by: ... at June 22, 2026 09:43 AM (22ggK)

Some actually do want it, but they are unwilling to sacrifice their own to accomplish it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (dK+Kv)

329 Iran also agreed to IAEA inspections.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 09:48 AM (afJtY)

330 >>Some actually do want it, but they are unwilling to sacrifice their own to accomplish it.

And they never say what their plan is for dealing with Iran after we have an all out war. And there's always an after to be dealt with.

Oil just fell below $74/barrel, by the way.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2026 09:53 AM (viF8m)

331 The IAEA is a joke. Atomic Energy? That's some 1950's shit. They're outdated like NATO and the UN. They serve no purpose.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 09:56 AM (fkjGs)

332 Their plan is to criticize any plan that doesn't meet their expectations.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 09:58 AM (afJtY)

Daily Tech News 22 June 2026

Top Story



Tech News



Musical Interlude





Disclaimer: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

2 Mornin'

DEATH TO ALL MICE!!!!

Why yes, I seem to have some four legged squatters. Little vermin bastards!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:32 AM (sAmhv)

3 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:34 AM (Ia/+0)

4 The Blues Brothers - Shake a Tail Feather

That's so great!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:34 AM (6wpGE)

5 Morning Tech threaders. Good evening Pixie.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 22, 2026 04:34 AM (BGSp9)

6 Guten morgen, horde.

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 04:41 AM (I5lp2)

7 G'mornin all y'all

Posted by: Okjohn at June 22, 2026 04:41 AM (lE/nR)

8 >>>Polymarket ads are ads. (MSN)
In that nothing they present is real.

I am not a lawyer, but ... that's what ads do.They sell things using actors pretending stuff (excuse the heavy lawyerlike vocabulary).

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:43 AM (6wpGE)

9 Democratic operatives Shaunna Thomas and Leah Hunt-Hendrix launched the Guardrails Alliance on Thursday with backing from tech employees, labor unions, and other groups, according to The New York Times.
****

First paragraph tells you that this sucks balls. One big grift.

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 04:45 AM (I5lp2)

10 WAVY10 has dropped measles in favor of exceptional drought.

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2026 04:50 AM (GbONR)

11 I wonder how many people are grifting on the AI runup?

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 04:50 AM (I5lp2)

12 East bound and down
See you when I get there

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 04:51 AM (Ia/+0)

13 Howdy, I guess it's time to go to sleep.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 22, 2026 04:51 AM (Q/FnY)

14 >>>TikTok shows three times more AI slop than YouTube.

from the article:

Why This Matters
Brands producing TikTok content are entering a feed where automated content may outweigh human-made videos for new users. For children's content specifically, the concentration is higher.
TikTok added user controls for AI content, but data suggests that what new users see by default still leans heavily toward AI-generated videos.

But, wait. That doesn't tell us Why This Matters.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:52 AM (6wpGE)

15 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2026 04:55 AM (mqAOW)

16 Belated BOING!

Mid-exercise.

Maybe l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 04:55 AM (rmmrE)

17 A tech-worked backed PAC is spending $5 million to fight a multi-trillion dollar industry. (Tech Crunch)

from the article:

“Our fundamental belief here is that people still do have the power to stop this autocratic takeover of the Trump administration and the tech sector,” Thomas told the NYT.

Oh, for heaven's sake.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:57 AM (6wpGE)

18 Cheerio Der Starmer!

https://tinyurl.com/4az7c8eh

Here's betting that the barbarian who replaces him will be the same or worse.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 04:58 AM (rmmrE)

19 Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2026 04:55 AM (mqAOW)

Very close to having a meow in your hash.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:59 AM (6wpGE)

20 18 Cheerio Der Starmer!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 04:58 AM (rmmrE)

BBC:

Keir Starmer announces his resignation as UK prime minister

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE)

21 AI slop will kill social media. Only meat space accounts known to the viewer will matter.

Posted by: Accomack at June 22, 2026 05:01 AM (/Chlc)

22 ... and on the same front page:

BBC:

Trump-backed political outsider wins Colombia election, initial count shows

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:01 AM (6wpGE)

23 BBC:

Keir Starmer announces his resignation as UK prime minister



He should be replace with a sack of cornmeal. That will give time for the UK to clean up Starmers mess. Couldn't be any worse.

They are going to pick somebody worse, aren't they.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 05:04 AM (sAmhv)

24 Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE

I think the fellow who will be his replacement is even worse

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:04 AM (guLpK)

25 Very close to having a meow in your hash.
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:59
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Heh.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 22, 2026 05:05 AM (mqAOW)

26
Daily Tech News 22 June 2026
Top Story
Tech News

Good picks, Pixy!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:06 AM (6wpGE)

27
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 22, 2026 05:10 AM (AMvSw)

28 BBC:

What happens now?
Starmer says he'll remain in post until Labour chooses a new leader, which he's asked the party's governing body to ensure happens "before Parliament returns in September"

Andy Burnham - who could replace the PM - will be in Westminster today to be sworn in as MP for Makerfield, after winning a by-election last week

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:11 AM (6wpGE)

29 DangNammit!!! Thought I caught that stupid mouse. Turned the light on in the kitchen and saw it just when it hit my sticky trap. Made a loud squeal. I went to get a bag to dispose of it and when I got back, it was gone. Little !$$%&&&^%

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 05:12 AM (sAmhv)

30 BBC:

(editor, editor)

Starmer announced he had already spoken with the King and in said if there is a contest to succeed him, a new Labour leader will be in place before parliament returns in September

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:14 AM (6wpGE)

31 ooh, maybe an editor at the BBC reads Pixy's thread:

Starmer announced he had already spoken with the King and said if there is a contest to succeed him, a new Labour leader will be in place before parliament returns in September

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:20 AM (6wpGE)

32 @18/Biden's Dog: "Cheerio Der Starmer!

I still think that behind the scenes, they hit him with the really nasty blackmail video or pictures that were taken and set aside for just such a day and said to him, "You can resign, or you can resign in utter disgrace, your choice."

Guys like him and Justin Trudeau are way too narcissistic to resign "for the good of the party". In their own eyes, they did, and can do no wrong, but their weakness is that they don't want to be a pariah, despised by everyone in public for the rest of their lives. They'll do anything to salvage their image in the eyes of the public, especially if they've got a soft landing set up such as a "consulting" job that leverages their political career up to that point.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

33 A beautiful psalm of praise read by David Suchet-Psalm 145:

https://tinyurl.com/4c3vjafc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:23 AM (guLpK)

34 @29/Puddleglum: DangNammit!!! Thought I caught that stupid mouse.

Victor snap traps baited with peanut butter. Those work.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:24 AM (O7YUW)

35 32 I still think that behind the scenes, they hit him with the really nasty blackmail video or pictures that were taken and set aside for just such a day and said to him, "You can resign, or you can resign in utter disgrace, your choice."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

Maybe this phrasing, at the BBC, prior to the resignation announcement, was code:

Shadow minister: Keir Starmer is a 'busted flush'

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:25 AM (6wpGE)

36 Boy had stage 4 cancer , but his doctor gave him hope and it changed everything:

https://tinyurl.com/24junfth

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:26 AM (guLpK)

37 I like the old term "Four-flusher."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 05:27 AM (qFwJc)

38 wow
Starmer quit
I thought Trump was just outgassing on his truth social, but it's true
interesting to see if this changes things in the UK

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 05:28 AM (hkbGk)

39 though I imagine it will be

meet the new boss
same as the old boss

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 05:30 AM (hkbGk)

40 38 wow
Starmer quit
I thought Trump was just outgassing on his truth social, but it's true
interesting to see if this changes things in the UK
Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 05:28 AM (hkbGk)

BBC:
(prior to the resignation announcement)

Donald Trump also weighed in, asserting that Starmer "will resign" having "failed badly" on immigration and energy in a post on Truth Social. No 10 tells the BBC Starmer has not spoken to Trump this weekend.

heh

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:31 AM (6wpGE)

41 ... accompanied by a photo of "Donald Trump and Keir Starmer pictured at the G7 in France last week"

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:32 AM (6wpGE)

42 "My red bag"- A reflection on Psalm 145 and praise of God. Upper Room Devotional:

https://tinyurl.com/3ahxsz5j

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:32 AM (guLpK)

43 BBC online front-page LIVE feed really does handle these sorts of breaking stories very well.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:34 AM (6wpGE)

44 This is the one of the most thought provoking posts on Christian theology, suffering and God's work which I have read: "Two choices" by an op writer at the "Christian Post":

https://tinyurl.com/3ns9w3fn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:37 AM (OYsYV)

45 And a lovely version of an old time hymn ( 1879) " I need thee every hour."

https://tinyurl.com/mt4fjs83

Time for a walk. May you all have a blessed day everyone and know that you are a blessing to others.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 05:46 AM (KxQqp)

46 Good morning everyone. It's a nice day out here in the GPROMD. I have a short week and then I fly to CA to see my folks.

The weekend was a bit on the busy side. We had eight dogs in the house. Three went home on Saturday and one was picked up on Sunday so things are quieter.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 05:47 AM (RjOoY)

47 hmm

BBC:

Green Party leader Zack Polanski ...
On Starmer's potential successor Andy Burnham, Polanski says he "must be bold or he will be bust".

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 05:48 AM (6wpGE)

48 Victor snap traps baited with peanut butter. Those work.


The problem is getting Victor traps set. I have a hell of a time doing it. I've been using Tomcat traps and have had some success with them. This mouse has so far avoided all of them, except for the sticky trap that it pulled itself out of. That kind of pissed me off. I've used them before too and had success. Just not this time.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 05:53 AM (sAmhv)

49 Guys like him and Justin Trudeau are way too narcissistic to resign "for the good of the party". In their own eyes, they did, and can do no wrong, but their weakness is that they don't want to be a pariah, despised by everyone in public for the rest of their lives. They'll do anything to salvage their image in the eyes of the public, especially if they've got a soft landing set up such as a "consulting" job that leverages their political career up to that point.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

And look at PM Carney. He is a technocrat with no patience at all for politics. He believes he should be ruling Canada and has no time for anyone else, even his colleagues.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 05:57 AM (T6aVk)

50 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:01 AM (whRlH)

51 Cow Demon

Add that leadership failure to the woes of Canada. Can they ever recover?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:02 AM (whRlH)

52 m

I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

53 @48/Puddleglum: "The problem is getting Victor traps set. I have a hell of a time doing it."

a) Are you using the old style Victor with the metal trip pedal, or are you using the new style with the expanded trigger plate (plastic, yellow, made to look like a piece of cheese.)

b) Can you describe why you have a problem setting the trap, ie, what the specific difficulty is?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:11 AM (O7YUW)

54 The Marxists in England will just slide another one in and declare everything will be different from now on

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:12 AM (sgkY8)

55 @49/Cow Demon: "He { Carney } believes he should be ruling Canada and has no time for anyone else, even his colleagues.

Scratch that liberal party paint, find the communist logo beneath.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:13 AM (O7YUW)

56 I couldn't get the arm set. Kept tripping, no matter what I tried. I think they were the second style you described. I'm heading to bed so I'll check the response later.

'night daywalkers!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 06:13 AM (sAmhv)

57 >>>expanded trigger plate (plastic, yellow, made to look like a piece of cheese.)

Those suck ass. I've had one trip three times, and all it's done is create a smart mouse. I'm going to have to make a bucket trap.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:14 AM (dK+Kv)

58 Evening and morning to all the late toilers and early risers!
Okay, I'll admit, it's Monday. But remember:

"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 06:15 AM (wzUl9)

59 The Marxists in England will just slide another one in and declare everything will be different from now on

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:12 AM (sgkY

Yep. The UK is a conquered people. They would give that up easily. I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:16 AM (dK+Kv)

60 would *not*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:17 AM (dK+Kv)

61 I'm up, reluctantly earlier than I planned. No coffee or chow this morning, just water; I'm fasting for a blood draw at 8 am. In a little bit I'll shave and shower, feed the cats, then head out to drive to the clinic near my old employer. They are usually done with me pretty quickly, and I can head to my favorite diner for coffee and breakfast.

Howz about you?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2026 06:18 AM (wzUl9)

62 Have a great day, everyone.

I have preps for my flight home after the MoMeet of pleasant memories.

May you be blessed with your week as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:21 AM (whRlH)

63 I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.

Given that they had a Scottish dude go after Muslims with a knife and yell at the cops when they brought him down, things might be starting to turn.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 06:21 AM (RjOoY)

64 Scratch that liberal party paint, find the communist logo beneath.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:13 AM (O7YUW)

Especially now. If they were halfway pragmatic, they would look at AB and say "get all the oil out of the ground, we have to pay for lots and lots of social spending." But they are not pragmatic. They are very much Maoist in their outlook. PM Carney is right and if you disagree you are just an evil capitalist roader.

This view is bankrupting Canada and the government's view that if Canada is destroyed as a consequence of their decisions, so be it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 06:23 AM (T6aVk)

65 @56/Puddleglum: "I couldn't get the arm set. Kept tripping, no matter what I tried. I think they were the second style you described."

Okay, get some of the original style with the metal trip pedal. I've never had trouble setting those, there's a notch that's easy to see where the trip-arm sets into.

1. Bait the metal trip pedal with peanut butter. Put a nice glob of the peanut butter onto the metal loop and work it inside the loop too if you can.

2. Move the spring 180 degrees to the other side, holding it down on the wood with your thumb.

3. Swing the trip arm up and over the spring.

4. End of the trip arm fits into the notch on the metal trip pedal.

5. GENTLY remove pressure with your thumb so the trip arm locks into the notch on the metal trip pedal.

6. Hold the trap between thumb and index finger on the side that the spring arm is on when ARMED. If it lets go, this way it won't snap you. :-)

7. GENTLY place it down along side of where the wall and the floor meet, long side against wall.

8. Check every 12 hours, or wait for the *SNAP!* :-)

(continues...)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:24 AM (O7YUW)

66 The political life of a PM in Britain seems to be just under 2 years. 7 in the last 10 years

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 06:25 AM (afJtY)

67 52 m

I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

The UK couldn't be turned around in 1979. Just sayin.

(And absolutely they were. To the extent we would prefer? Perhaps not, but it is undeniable that the UK was better off after PM Thatcher was in office. The UK CAN be turned around. That is not the question. The question is: will it? THAT is an open question.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 06:26 AM (T6aVk)

68 If they were halfway pragmatic, they would look at AB and say "get all the oil out of the ground, we have to pay for lots and lots of social spending."

1. That would desecrate Gaia.
2. This would lead to people having well paying jobs.

So you can see why there would be no interest in this.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 06:28 AM (RjOoY)

69 @Puddleglum (more about Victor mouse traps):

I've had cases where the trap has been tripped or the bait has been eaten without tripping the trap multiple times. Do not lose patience, just keep baiting the trap, it'll work.

Small mice can lick the bait completely out of the trip trigger, but a bigger fatter mouse (more importantly a mouse that has been fed well from your peanut butter and is used to an easy meal) will make a mistake and will get killed.

Mice can not resist peanut butter. They will return time after time for the easy meal.

Best way to load the trap to avoid contaminating your peanut butter jar:

a) Load the tip of a knife with peanut butter.
b) Transfer PB to fresh NEW toothpick.
c) Use toothpick to load trigger on trap (while disarmed.)
d) Throw toothpick away.
e) If loading another trap, repeat from (a) or (b).

We had one year where we killed over 20 mice. It was nuts. You couldn't even find traps in the store, apparently the mouse population had exploded that year and everyone was having problems. Always, ALWAYS keep 6 to 12 extra new traps on your shelf, ready to go. Get a "value pack".

Next year we caught maybe 1 or 2 all year.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:30 AM (O7YUW)

70 The UK CAN be turned around. That is not the question. The question is: will it? THAT is an open question.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 06:26 AM (T6aVk)

The UK is a beaten dog. They enjoy their serfdom. It is their national identity. Read the rape gang report or even just the reported details.

Sad, but true.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:30 AM (dK+Kv)

71 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:30 AM (O7YUW)

You give me hope.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2026 06:32 AM (dK+Kv)

72 What the cats don't get a sticky trap will.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 06:33 AM (afJtY)

73 Imagine you are the UK. And Starmer resigns, and you go okay now we reach into our bench and real leader takes charge.

Oh.

Imagine you are the US Senate....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2026 06:34 AM (NlEaG)

74 Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:34 AM (6wpGE)

75 "Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.
Posted by: m"

Once they get in your ducts it's time to bring out the heavy firepower.

mornin yall

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 06:37 AM (vFG9F)

76
The political life of a PM in Britain seems to be just under 2 years. 7 in the last 10 years
Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2026 06:25 AM (afJtY)


In the 1820s-1830s there were 9 in 8 years.

Liverpool: 1827
Canning: 1827
Goderich: 1827-1828
Wellington 1: 1828-1830
Grey: 1830-1834
Melbourne 1: 1834
Wellington 2: 1834
Peel: 1834-1835
Melbourne 2: 1835

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 06:37 AM (O0L8i)

77 England needs Oliver Cromwell again

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:40 AM (sgkY8)

78 this seems pretty solid:

BBC:

Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey says the public is "sick" of constantly changing prime ministers, following the resignation announcement from Keir Starmer.
"The British people are sick of being let down by an endless merry-go-round of prime ministers while nothing really changes," Davey writes on X.
"This time must be different. It can’t just be about changing who’s in Number 10, it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:41 AM (6wpGE)

79
"This time must be different. It can’t just be about changing who’s in Number 10, it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:41 AM (6wpGE)


Note that it's about changing politics instead of changing policies.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (O0L8i)

80 > it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."
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who thinks that will happen

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (15Vi2)

81 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (VyBeY)

82 Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey says the public is "sick" of constantly changing prime ministers, following the resignation announcement from Keir Starmer.
"The British people are sick of being let down by an endless merry-go-round of prime ministers while nothing really changes," Davey writes on X.
"This time must be different. It can’t just be about changing who’s in Number 10, it has to be about changing our broken politics so we can fix our country."
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:41 AM (6wpGE)


Narrator: They continued to be let down.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2026 06:45 AM (NlEaG)

83 it has to be about changing our broken politics
****

Well, no. Your politics are working just like the gov wants. It ain't broke if no one wants to fix it.

Posted by: clarence at June 22, 2026 06:46 AM (I5lp2)

84 I'm late. Just dropping in to say hello. I'm going to make it a point to stop by every day.

Maybe I will start dropping references from times past. For example, today I sliced like a large war mattock. I also tore one of my good shirts. Can a guy get a shirt around here?

Posted by: meh at June 22, 2026 06:47 AM (kK7U2)

85 Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer. The liability questions here are a bit problematic but probably could be a handled by safety stickers similar to what is used for airbags.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 06:48 AM (ffi9I)

86 The UK is enjoying the English translation of "The Camp of the Saints."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 06:48 AM (qFwJc)

87 Punishments will be increased until morale improves.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 22, 2026 06:49 AM (qFwJc)

88 And then there's:

Prime Minister of Australia

The current prime minister is Anthony Albanese of the Australian Labor Party, who assumed office on 23 May 2022.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:55 AM (6wpGE)

89

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 22, 2026 06:56 AM (A46K3)

90 85 Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer. The liability questions here are a bit problematic but probably could be a handled by safety stickers similar to what is used for airbags.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 06:48 AM (ffi9I)

How easy is it to set, tho.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 06:56 AM (6wpGE)

91 Camela says the word "hope" should be a verb. She did not bring up the word "dope".

Posted by: fd at June 22, 2026 06:58 AM (vFG9F)

92 @85/Alteria Pilgram: "A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer."

Someone needs to tell CBD, this could fix all his house problems in his First World Problems threads!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:58 AM (O7YUW)

93 Okay, I gotta go whoosh. Work beckons. Last 4 days of driving "Mamma's little darlin's" for this school year.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 06:59 AM (O7YUW)

94 I'm watching Sky News' coverage of Keir Starmer committing the British version of political seppaku. I am surprised by two things. First, everyone is acting surprisedthis has happened again. Second, that nobody is suggesting the Brits need better PMs, ones that actually govern for the British people instead of governing for the knife and rape gang colonizers. I am disappointed that Starmer was not required to give his resignation speech while in full clown makeup and wearing nothing but high heels and fishnet stockings.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 06:59 AM (ffi9I)

95 Last 4 days of driving "Mamma's little darlin's" for this school year.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant


Perhaps some day, the Powers That Be will add the ejection seats to the bus.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 22, 2026 07:03 AM (RjOoY)

96 NaCly if you are still around I would love to continue our conversation. Email me at jack471 at bellsouth dot net and we can exchange information. That goes for the rest of the family from the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Buck at June 22, 2026 07:07 AM (z6ONu)

97 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 22, 2026 07:09 AM (Ov6Yl)

98 96 NaCly if you are still around I would love to continue our conversation. Email me at jack471 at bellsouth dot net and we can exchange information. That goes for the rest of the family from the NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: Buck at June 22, 2026 07:07 AM (z6ONu)

62 Have a great day, everyone.

I have preps for my flight home after the MoMeet of pleasant memories.

May you be blessed with your week as well.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:21 AM (whRlH)

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:10 AM (6wpGE)

99 >>>Somebody needs to build a better mousetrap.

A platform with a 360 degree laser trigger that sets off high explosives when tripped from 10 ft or closer. The liability questions here are a bit problematic but probably could be a handled by safety stickers similar to what is used for airbags.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions

>Sounds like a perfect task for AI. Roborat. Fornicate them to death.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 07:11 AM (fkjGs)

100 100

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:11 AM (6wpGE)

101 Good morning morons from Boulder CO

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:15 AM (mWKAz)

102 101 Good morning morons from Boulder CO
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 22, 2026 07:15 AM (mWKAz)

That's very bould of you!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:16 AM (6wpGE)

103
35 32 I still think that behind the scenes, they hit him with the really nasty blackmail video or pictures that were taken and set aside for just such a day and said to him, "You can resign, or you can resign in utter disgrace, your choice."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 22, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

They didn’t need to. A popular Labour Party member, Burnham, won a by election to get a seat in Parliament, and beat Reform pretty easily. Reportedly all of Starmers cabinet ministers told Starmer he had this week to get out or they would lead the vote to throw him out. Burnham will be his replacement.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2026 07:17 AM (nuNhM)

104 > Good morning morons from Boulder CO

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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DUDE WHAT ARE YOU DOING

Posted by: Don Black at June 22, 2026 07:18 AM (15Vi2)

105 Good morning Horde. Thx Pixy.
Alan Greenspan is mort. 100yrs old
Andrea Mitchell is available. Too soon?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:18 AM (Iurxt)

106 Good morning from a very overcast and humid Ozarks.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 22, 2026 07:21 AM (ZHOnm)

107 77 England needs Oliver Cromwell again
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 06:40 AM (sgkY8

It needs to stop with the diversity shit and deport the muslim army

Posted by: night lifted at June 22, 2026 07:21 AM (kJmLc)

108 Andrea Mitchell is available. Too soon?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2026 07:18 AM (Iurxt)

Yeah, Mitchell being available would be too soon for anyone...

Posted by: Boswell at June 22, 2026 07:21 AM (NTVPI)

109 Some of the fans at the US Open yesterday lacked class. It’s okay to root for your preferred player and cheer his good shots… but some fans were openly cheering for the ultimate winner’s shots to go into rough or bunkers and cheering when he hit bad shots… no class

On the last hole rather than cheer the guy in the lead as he approached the last green they sang happy birthday to the guy 4 shots back who has no way to win. BTW, I like Scottie Scheffler a lot and wish he would’ve won but he was out of contention at that point…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:22 AM (yz/88)

110 Wonder if PDT is sitting quietly, not commenting on the Starmer resignation.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:23 AM (6wpGE)

111 - android question

Couple times a week it seems, only when I come here in the morning, a pop up appears...

KEY CHAIN
Chrome is checking certificates

Fades, comes back. Fades, comes back...
Screen is frozen and only way to get rid of it is restart my phone.

Any knowledge appreciated.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 22, 2026 07:23 AM (ev5l/)

112 Starmer is out. Smart decision. Who would want to be in charge of that clusterfuck.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (fkjGs)

113 Andy Burnhamn joined the labor party at age 15 and has spent every waking minute since then being exactly the same guy as Keir Starmer. When he's elected as PM and it seems that will be the case, nothing is going to change. Plus the bonus round is he apparently hates Trump and calls him poisonous.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (ffi9I)

114 Nood JJ

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (qZb7K)

115 113 Andy Burnhamn joined the labor party at age 15 and has spent every waking minute since then being exactly the same guy as Keir Starmer. When he's elected as PM and it seems that will be the case, nothing is going to change. Plus the bonus round is he apparently hates Trump and calls him poisonous.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 22, 2026 07:25 AM (ffi9I)

yikes

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:26 AM (6wpGE)

116 The UK is gone, it doesn’t matter who is PM. Even Nigel Farage couldn’t fix it; certainly none of their political class can… they’re all clones. This Burnham guy is another Starmer, perhaps less wooden. No Thatcher out there to save the day… kinda sad but their voters have been digging this hole for decades. The numb skulls threw out Churchill after WWII and it’s been generally downhill since with only the respite from Thatcher applying some brakes on the downhill

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 22, 2026 07:29 AM (yz/88)

117 The fag is out in England? Good bye fag, we hardly knew ye. Hopefully the next PM of Englandenstan will not be a homo. Or a moslem. Or both.

Posted by: Out With The Fag at June 22, 2026 07:29 AM (g7saB)

118 I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

During the campaign, he flatly stated that he's looking for immigration reform, not any mass deportations, and that he wants his coalition to build Muslim support, not alienate them.

Perhaps someone else will rise up and demand a Britain for the British, but it won't be Farage.

I expect Reform's approach to deportations will be less aggressive than Trump's, not more.

He was good on Brexit, but he's not exactly strong on immigration - his Party is succeeding by offering the less blatantly insane approach to the problem.

If they (or us, for that matter) want to "turn things around," a whole lot of people have to be sent packing, and nobody yet seems to have the political will for this kind of dramatic reversal of globalist policy orthodoxy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (BI5O2)

119 118 I don't think even Nigel can turn the UK around. May I be mistaken.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 22, 2026 06:04 AM (whRlH)

During the campaign, he flatly stated that he's looking for immigration reform, not any mass deportations, and that he wants his coalition to build Muslim support, not alienate them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:31 AM (BI5O2)

he = Farage?

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

120 The rest of your post suggests that, but I'm not sure if I'm misreading.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

121 he = Farage?
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

Yes - he wanted to calm people's fears that Reform would send Precious Foreigners packing.

He may have succeeded at that, but it also tells me he's not serious about reversing any damage, just slowing it down.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:36 AM (BI5O2)

122 121 he = Farage?
Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:33 AM (6wpGE)

Yes - he wanted to calm people's fears that Reform would send Precious Foreigners packing.

He may have succeeded at that, but it also tells me he's not serious about reversing any damage, just slowing it down.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2026 07:36 AM (BI5O2)

Thanks.

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 07:37 AM (6wpGE)

123 Microsoft--threat or menace? More frustrations with Beelink that have happened because MS likely uses AI to write system updates.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2026 07:39 AM (CHHv1)

124 Anthropic’s most powerful artificial intelligence model reportedly breached ‘almost all’ US classified systems in a matter of hours, according to Senator Mark Warner, who says the head of the National Security Agency told him directly that the model had penetrated nearly every classified system it was tested against. The claim has not been publicly confirmed by any government agency.

Senator Mark Warner, vice-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said on 11 June that General Joshua Rudd, who leads both the NSA and the Pentagon’s Cyber Command, told him directly that Anthropic’s Mythos model ‘broke into almost all of our classified systems, not in weeks, but in hours.’ The extent of the alleged breach and which specific systems were affected have not been publicly disclosed. Anthropic did not respond to a request for comment.

The warning emerged alongside an abrupt move by the Trump administration to block foreign access to Anthropic’s two most advanced models, Mythos and Fable.

Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2026 08:14 AM (O7XEN)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread - June 21, 2026 [Doof]

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Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday ONT. Hope you enjoyed the first official day of summer. Open thread, as always. Fashion and music, as always. What's on YOUR mind tonight?

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Happy Father's Day

Becoming your dad



Some dads are just dicks



What a moment for this dad



Another great father / son moment at the US Open



Preparing the new dads

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It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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The Glamour Dash at Royal Ascot: Hats, Horses, Henry’s Vintage Flex… and That Viral Video

Oh the Royal Ascot, where the dress code is stricter than a Victorian nanny armed with a ruler. Ladies drifted in like elegant cupcakes wrapped in silk, lace, and hemlines that stayed politely north of scandal. Gentlemen arrived in flawless morning dress: tails, waistcoats, and top hats tilted with mathematical precision while sporting some truly fun ties.

Two of my favorite ties belonged to Mike Tindall and the Duke of Edinburgh.
Mike wore an E. Marinella pink classic silk tie in the Small Flower pattern.

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The Duke of Edinburgh once again delivered in his signature “Racing Colours and Saddles on Pastel Ground” tie by Soprano, a piece he has worn every year for the last 12 years.

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Among the dresses, two stood out: Princess Catherine’s rewear of a gorgeous marigold Roksanda Brigitte dress (not everyone could pull that one off) and Zara Tindall’s utterly charming bespoke Claire Mischevani Poppy Dress in Polka Dot.
Alongside the bright yellow dress, Princess Catherine wore a Jane Taylor London Pomona hat, Queen Elizabeth II’s Diamond Chandelier Earrings, and a Nigel Milne Birthright Three-Strand Pearl Bracelet. She carried an Anya Hindmarch Maud Pearl-Embellished Clutch Bag in Ivory and finished the look with Gianvito Rossi Gianvito 105 Pumps in Bisque Suede.

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Zara Tindall paired her polka-dot dress with a bespoke Sally Ann Hats Ariel Hat (retail version shown), Hector Lion Cassis Collection Croissant Earrings, and a Mulberry Amberley Clutch in Black Small Classic Grain leather. Her shoes were the Emmy Rebecca Pump in Jet Black Suede.

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Then Henry Cavill arrived with his… um, watch, and the internet promptly lost the ability to behave. The watch itself was spectacular: a 1926 Longines Monopusher Chronograph. But honestly, the video says it all

In the end, Royal Ascot proved once again that while the hats are huge, the horses are fast, and the royalty is royal, nothing, and I mean nothing, can compete with a 6’1 superhero in morning dress casually flexing a vintage chronograph on his wrist. 😉

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1 Yeah

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (uTEOj)

2 Mixolidum Datrium Dichlorinidesulfate

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:08 PM (iLKq8)

3 late so not first

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at June 21, 2026 10:08 PM (g14+z)

4
*big band theme music*

Sunday ONT with the Doofster and the Ghost!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (O0L8i)

5 Longest day of the year? So, it's going to start cooling off now, right?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (1Ff7Z)

6 Must've watched Ken Burns' PBS series on the Revolution.

Joy Reid: “Nobody black I know is really excited about the 4th of July."

“It is the celebration of slaveholders who freed themselves from having to pay taxes to the Crown for their slave empire."

Reid was considered a 'mainstream media’ personality for years.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (ndZc7)

7 and she dissolved before their eyes

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (iLKq8)

8 Awww! The dress looked a dad was so cute!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (OoFl2)

9 Lots of toffs and swells in tonight's fashion cavalcade.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (u/oMr)

10 Preparing the New Dad could have fit in the Gun Thread today.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (qx7Zg)

11 One thing is for damn sure, Rush knows how to pick drummers.

https://tinyurl.com/2fds9s7n

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (XV/Pl)

12 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (ItpVy)

13 Holy cows! Now I can leisurely puruse DOOF! Anand Piper!
Yay again!😜

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:10 PM (uTEOj)

14 Proof white people can't dance.

https://tinyurl.com/msy2pvyj

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:11 PM (ndZc7)

15 Attention! Our mascot has the zoomies.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:11 PM (OoFl2)

16 Like a DAD! Miss mine💔

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (uTEOj)

17 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (2YhKe)

18
Missed Mass today because my driveway was under six inches of water this morning. Washed Puff and Ruth and cleaned their pen. Exhausted afterwards. Driveway was still under water later in the afternoon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (O0L8i)

19 Hola, Hall.

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (77rzZ)

20 Thanks for the ONT, Doof! Again!

I can live with those rules and do so each day.

Posted by: LRob in OK at June 21, 2026 10:12 PM (Jr+re)

21 Saw this earlier today, and had to share it. I'm going to step away for a bit, so enjoy.
=====
The doctor told my 96-year-old great-grandfather that he had to "quit all high-adrenaline activities" because of his blood pressure. I found him in the driveway, trying to jump his mobility scooter over a row of flaming trash cans.

He shouted over the engine, "The doctor said no adrenaline, but my heart is so old it needs a jump-start! I'm just 'defibrillating' my soul. Now, move the cat, I need a longer runway!"

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (qx7Zg)

22 Longest day of the year? So, it's going to start cooling off now, right?
-
Maybe not but at least the sun will let us sleep longer.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (vSvIl)

23 I thought she said rearwear. I need glasses.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (iLKq8)

24 I thought Weasel shot Doof in the last thread?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:13 PM (2YhKe)

25 Howdy everyone. Even you, Sponge.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (QMAsf)

26 Good evening Horde. Thanks Disco and Piper!

Posted by: TRex - NoVaMoMe hangover dino at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

27 Geez...that darn Gary dad...what kind of goose acts like this?!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (uTEOj)

28 Oh, no! First Piper and now Doof . . . . can we go on?

Posted by: LRob in OK at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (Jr+re)

29 So, I have been effectively ordered to attend the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (77rzZ)

30 Howdy all. Wish I could have made the NoVMoMee, maybe next year. Have dreams to make it to Corsicana, time will tell.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (55Qr6)

31 Evening Horde. Doof, dearly departed Piper, good to see you haunting us!

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (aJQbY)

32 omg, the bread song

:-(

Posted by: cherries in season at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (Ozvnh)

33 My wardrobe cries out for a top hat and a monocle.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (u/oMr)

34 It is the celebration of slaveholders who freed themselves from having to pay taxes to the Crown for their slave empire

The take of someone actively seeking to be pissed-off all the time. What a way to live.

Posted by: Halfhand at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (6RaZt)

35 Geez...that darn Gary dad...what kind of goose acts like this?!
Posted by: COMountainMarie


All of them. Goslings optional.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (VHUov)

36 Evening, Doof, and Piper, and ONT Horde!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (1z8ji)

37 Piper, Splendid owes you a commission. The short-sleeve cardigan you posted last week was already out of stock when I tried to buy last week. Very impresssive!

Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (wTevN)

38 Wait - am I dead?

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

39 I don't think I ever told my dad, out loud in words, that I was proud of him. So I made sure to tell my son.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (vTZFs)

40 I'm doing a marathon viewing of Adam Carolla movies ( all two of them) .

Finished Road Hard which was really good . In the middle of The Hammer. Also really good. He needs to make another movie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (KC5Lt)

41 38 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

Oh no…..

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (OoFl2)

42
Wait - am I dead?

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

___________

*flips pages on clipboard*

Says here you ought to be.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (O0L8i)

43 The take of someone actively seeking to be pissed-off all the time. What a way to live.
Posted by: Halfhand at June 21, 2026 10:15 PM (6RaZt)

Funny, I don't see a chain keeping her here.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (1Ff7Z)

44 Wait - am I dead?


No. Just "mostly" dead . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (Jr+re)

45 Loved that video of the young man donning Dadwear under the tutelage of the wise elder.

-Tucks in shirt *nods approval*
-White socks *yes, my child! It is time*
-Pulls laces so tight it cuts off circulation

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (kpS4V)

46 All the chillens called or texted today. That was nice.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (ItpVy)

47 30 Howdy all. Wish I could have made the NoVMoMee, maybe next year. Have dreams to make it to Corsicana, time will tell.

----------

Most Morons never make the Hajj to Corsicana, even though the AoSHQ Big Book of Guidelines says you should do it at least once in your life.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (u/oMr)

48 37 Piper, Splendid owes you a commission. The short-sleeve cardigan you posted last week was already out of stock when I tried to buy last week. Very impresssive!
Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (wTevN

Did you try Nordstrom?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (OoFl2)

49 The fireflies are out, everyone else is in bed, time for knitting! I have 14 inches to go before July 11 (cringe).

Posted by: pookysgirl, getting set up at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (Wt5PA)

50 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

Oh no…..
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (OoFl2)


Well, if YOU'RE answering me, I must be.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (QMAsf)

51 Y’all know not to trust CBD, because he’s a fed, right?

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:19 PM (77rzZ)

52 Princess Catherine's dress seems kind of... shear, is that the word?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 10:19 PM (/lPRQ)

53 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)

Oh no…..
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:17 PM (OoFl2)

Well, if YOU'RE answering me, I must be.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (QMAsf)

If you're not, I have to put the cart back.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (1Ff7Z)

54 I have 14 inches to go before July 11 (cringe).
Posted by: pookysgirl, getting set up at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (Wt5PA)

---------

I hope you're making a sock.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (u/oMr)

55 Howdy everyone. Even you, Sponge.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM


===========


It's good to belong.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (2YhKe)

56 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (OoFl2)

57 Most Morons never make the Hajj to Corsicana, even though the AoSHQ Big Book of Guidelines says you should do it at least once in your life.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (u/oMr)


I'm glad I went multiple times before I died. I kindly request some of my ashes by scattered in the camper section of the ranch.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (QMAsf)

58
shear, is that the word?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 10:19 PM (/lPRQ)

___________

Diaphanous, that's the word.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:21 PM (O0L8i)

59 Wait - am I dead?
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:16 PM (QMAsf)
************
Thank goodness I checked in, otherwise I might have missed the news.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 10:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

60 Where do I find the undead pickleball courts?
— Zombie Doof

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:21 PM (77rzZ)

61 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (sAmhv)

62 I do miss Doof tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (2YhKe)

63 So, I have been effectively ordered to attend the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:14 PM (77rzZ)
----
It's a great time, for sure. Contact Ben Had for details.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (+1HQm)

64 I'm glad I went multiple times before I died. I kindly request some of my ashes by scattered in the camper section of the ranch.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (QMAsf)

Let’s go haunt it!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (OoFl2)

65 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?
Posted by: Piper

Oh I watched it. Mr. Cavill was sporting more than a spiffy watch. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (lJ0H4)

66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (Riz8t)

67 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (OoFl2)


Nope. I don't even know who he is.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (QMAsf)

68 Somebody likes yella.

Heard some folks are under water and also heard Utah is on fire. Crazy weather.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (IY9No)

69 67 I am surprised Doof let me post the Cavill video. You didn’t even watch it, did you?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM (OoFl2)

Nope. I don't even know who he is.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:22

He is Superman! You should watch it. Or maybe don’t.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (OoFl2)

70
Or perhaps that's just my imagination.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (Riz8t)

___________

Well, you're a guy...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (O0L8i)

71 Our summer is starting with 2 inches of rain. Thankfully I got half the garlic in before the rain started.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (UQRAm)

72 Nope. I don't even know who he is.
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (QMAsf)

----------

He has a well-worn meme where he says "FUCK"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:23 PM (u/oMr)

73 I feel responsible for Doof's passing. Get in your Doof jokes while they're still relevant!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (+1HQm)

74 I'm glad I went multiple times before I died. I kindly request some of my ashes by scattered in the camper section of the ranch.

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:20 PM
***
Next to the port o potties? Tell ya what. For five bucks, I'll try to intervene and at least upgrade you to the 100 yard marker.

Posted by: TRex - helpful dino at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

75 Oh my, Cavill was loaded for bear.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (kpS4V)

76 Did you try Nordstrom?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:18 PM (OoFl2)

Thx! I will. Love that short, boxy look.

Posted by: EveR at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (wTevN)

77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (Riz8t)

I actually didn’t notice that at the time. But that girl still runs, obviously.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (OoFl2)

78 14 Proof white people can't dance.

https://tinyurl.com/msy2pvyj


Another pasty white liberal politician who thinks the black folks are cool with her and think she's one of them.

They do not.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (Riz8t)

79 22 Longest day of the year? So, it's going to start cooling off now, right?
--

Reminds of that Stevie Wonder song, Hotter Than July,
you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (iLKq8)

80 To wit:

https://youtu.be/jGLW6o6zQfg?is=B7M1qGh6DOzfFpWG

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (u/oMr)

81 I feel responsible for Doof's passing. Get in your Doof jokes while they're still relevant!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (+1HQm)


*sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*

Posted by: Doof's ghost at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (QMAsf)

82 75 Oh my, Cavill was loaded for bear.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at

It’s quite the watch!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (OoFl2)

83 Rules for guys....
I've been so lucky, starting with my dad, to have had many wonderful men who happily lived by these credences! Bless them each and every one..
I was usually the asshole😏..


Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (uTEOj)

84
I feel responsible for Doof's passing.

____________

Is that involuntary homicide or manslaughter?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (O0L8i)

85
*sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (QMAsf)
---/
Oh great.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (+1HQm)

86 Thanks for a special Father's Day edition of the Sunday Night ONT, Doof! Happy Father's Day to you!

And thanks to Piper for the Ascot fashion report. Well done, as always.

Fabulous photo up top!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (D/6p1)

87 62 Sponge, whom do you miss more, Doof or Piper?

Posted by: Bulg at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (77rzZ)

88 Doof is in a better place.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:27 PM (u/oMr)

89 Reminds of that Stevie Wonder song, Hotter Than July,
you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:25 PM (iLKq

There's plenty of hot left in this year.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (1Ff7Z)

90 *sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost
*****
Careful, I understand there are bear and bobcat that visit....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

91 Next to the port o potties? Tell ya what. For five bucks, I'll try to intervene and at least upgrade you to the 100 yard marker.
Posted by: TRex - helpful dino at June 21, 2026 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)


Dead men have no cash

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (QMAsf)

92 77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes
---

Hemlines, balderdash, smallderdash

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (iLKq8)

93 If that was my dad being my caddy he would have handed my a driver on the green, and said "impress me" with a typical dad laugh.

Also, seems fitting that Father's Day falls on the longest day of the year. Have the feminists complained yet about Mother's Day getting short changed?

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2026 10:29 PM (dIske)

94 92 77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes

----------

It would appear that she has nice thighs.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:29 PM (u/oMr)

95 That video of the baby as artillery is beyond precious! Extra points for the ghillie suit!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 21, 2026 10:30 PM (D/6p1)

96 Is that involuntary homicide or manslaughter?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (O0L8i)

I caught the end of the gun thread waiting for the ONT. I think it was a joke, therefore not murder, but mans laughter.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

97
Here, the 3rd week in July is the hottest period, although often early August, dog days, feels worse due to the humilarity.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (w6EFb)

98 96 Is that involuntary homicide or manslaughter?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:26 PM (O0L8i)

I caught the end of the gun thread waiting for the ONT. I think it was a joke, therefore not murder, but mans laughter.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:30

Oh, that was good!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

99 Hello.

Well, that hiddenclick music is quite a juxtaposition to the tranquility of the top pic.


Just got back from a nice dinner out with the keeds. Warms this daddy's heart.♥

Posted by: mindful webworker - every day is Our Father's Day at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (9bb3y)

100 I do miss Doof tho.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:22 PM (2YhKe)


I expect a recurring "pour one out" for me from the usual MoMe After Dark crew

Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (QMAsf)

101 I believe the Haj mandate is for "everyone who is physically able to do so."

Alas, I'm claiming that loophole for the mandatory Haj to Corsicana. I'm just too old & decrepit to do that kind of traveling.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (RCjYY)

102 *sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost

Oh great.
Posted by: Weasel


Well, now you can blame wobbly shit on poltergeist activity.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:33 PM (VHUov)

103 Thanks for the ONT, Doof!

Happy Father's Day and RIP *bows head*

That final meme was perhaps the greatest gift of the day, as I realized my eldest son now checks off that entire list...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 10:33 PM (6lIrI)

104 Still watching the US Open. My work schedule has me working through every weekend. I already know that Wyndham Clark won his second US Open. He was treated poorly by the NY crowd. I understand due to some of his antics over the years. He's up front about it and has apologized and made restitution (Oakmont CC especially). Hopefully, he'll stop with the dumb shit and have a long and successful career. Love the looks of those Long Island golf courses around Shinnecock. Too bad I'm poor white trash. No way I'm getting on any of them.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 10:34 PM (sAmhv)

105 Guess I'd miss Doof more since I've known him longer.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:34 PM (2YhKe)

106 Well, now you can blame wobbly shit on poltergeist activity.
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:33 PM (VHUov)
-----
Excellent point.

*Dammit Doof!*

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:34 PM (+1HQm)

107 Yay, Father's Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 21, 2026 10:35 PM (+9wcF)

108 I expect a recurring "pour one out" for me from the usual MoMe After Dark crew
Posted by: Doof at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM


============


That would be alcohol abuse and a major party foul.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:35 PM (2YhKe)

109
My wardrobe cries out for a top hat and a monocle.
Posted by: Cicero


Are you wearing a peanut shell?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 10:35 PM (Cqx++)

110 Oh, that was good!
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

Thanks. That gave me one of the few smiles of the day.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:37 PM (1Ff7Z)

111 Piper, then Doof, have died? It's obvious that there is a serial killer on this board.

(pulls out pipe, starts sleuthing)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 10:37 PM (sAmhv)

112 And Happy Father's Day to all you dads of The Horde.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:38 PM (2YhKe)

113 I expect a recurring "pour one out" for me from the usual MoMe After Dark crew

Well, I'm sure they already "pour one out" for kale smoothies for Piper... cuz noone can drink that stuff!

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 10:38 PM (aJQbY)

114 @93. Have the feminists complained.......

They always complain.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 10:38 PM (IY9No)

115 I was thinking more along the lines of Mr. Monopoly, but if the legume fits...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:39 PM (u/oMr)

116 I think most of it missed Doof. He wasn't in the area because he parked, pining to play Rush.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:40 PM (qx7Zg)

117 The "Becoming Your Dad" video could have used the first movement of Octavarium, "Someone Like Him," for background music. If they stretched it to 3 minutes long.

https://youtu.be/XYV8Zt2k0RQ

(Lyrics don't start until 5:30)

I never wanted to become someone like him
So secure!
Content to live each day just like the last
I was sure I knew that
This was not for me
And I wanted so much more
Far beyond what I could see
So I swore that I'd
Never be someone like him

1/3

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:40 PM (VHUov)

118 So many years have passed
Since I proclaimed my independence
My mission, My aim, And my vision
So secure!
Content to live each day like it's my last
It's wonderful to know that I could be
Something more than what I dreamed
Far beyond what I could see

Still I swear that I'm
Missing out this time

2/3

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:41 PM (VHUov)

119
As far as I could tell
There's nothing more I need
But still I ask myself
Could this be everything?
Then all I swore
That I would never be was now
So suddenly
The only thing
I wanted
To become

.....to be someone just like him.

3/3

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 10:41 PM (VHUov)

120 so in mid October, "Hellraiser: Revival" is coming out. First-person action horror survival game, cowritten by Clive Barker. It concerns the Genesis Configuration.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 10:42 PM (gKWVE)

121 *sets up a spooky outpost at Weasel Acres*
Posted by: Doof's ghost

Oh great.
Posted by: Weasel

At least he didn't choose your home, where he could wing up FSJ and Gertie, and smoke your stogies.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:42 PM (qx7Zg)

122 .... wing up FSJ and Gertie ...

Should be

... wind up FSJ and Gertie ...

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:43 PM (qx7Zg)

123
I miss Doof.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 10:45 PM (O0L8i)

124 I watched my first ever Pirates of the Caribbean movie today-- the first one. The series has grossed $4.5 billion so far, according to Wiki.

Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM (RCjYY)

125
... wind up FSJ and Gertie ...
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:43 PM (qx7Zg)
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They're highly trained and effective watch dogs!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:48 PM (GNqmQ)

126 Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM

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He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:48 PM (2YhKe)

127 @123. I miss Doof.

Well you could be with him.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 10:51 PM (IY9No)

128 He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:48 PM (2YhKe)
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That may be a message.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (GNqmQ)

129 126

Yes, and then there was the really bad stuff!

If you're rich, filing a lot of lawsuits is like a bad drug habit. Of course, Mr. Depp filed a lot of lawsuits AND had a bad drug habit.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (RCjYY)

130 There's plenty of hot left in this year.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:28 PM (1Ff7Z)
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It can show up anytime. My tomatoes would enjoy that.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (UQRAm)

131 Happy Fathers Day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2026 10:54 PM (sn5xH)

132 Bedtime in my corner of the afterlife. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:54 PM (OoFl2)

133 Got kicked out...or just messed up my ONT post.
To all dads coming along.
To the dads we've loved and lost...
To dads who fought and lived or died for us💔

It's fitting that the first day of summer - longest day of the year...
Should be DADs day!!!

Screw 🌈 month ha😜!



Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:59 PM (uTEOj)

134 Lord willing I'm planning to make the MoMe in October.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2026 11:00 PM (Ov6Yl)

135 Lord willing I'm planning to make the MoMe in October.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2026 11:00 PM (Ov6Yl)

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Good times.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 11:01 PM (2YhKe)

136 It's fitting that the first day of summer - longest day of the year...
Should be DADs day!!!

Screw 🌈 month ha😜!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 10:59 PM (uTEOj)

If you live in Indiana, it's officially Nuclear Family Month. Might be in other states.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

137 If you live in Indiana, it's officially Nuclear Family Month. Might be in other states.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


Even if it's not, party like it is!

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

138 It can show up anytime. My tomatoes would enjoy that.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 21, 2026 10:52 PM (UQRAm)

The heat's killed mine pretty much. A few left on the vines ripening. Once I pick them, I'm ripping out the plants and trying again in September.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 11:05 PM (1Ff7Z)

139
If you live in Indiana, it's officially Nuclear Family Month. Might be in other states.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

_____________

*men gasp*
*women faint*
*dogs howl*

During Pride Month? How homophobic can you get?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:06 PM (O0L8i)

140 Rarely do I make a request of the type I'm about to make.

Due to my own shortcomings, and a moment of madness 6 years ago, I've been estranged from my two sons (41 and 36).

I have tried my best over the past 6 years to reach out to them, to apologize, and ask their forgiveness.

All to no avail.

I would like to ask the Horde to pray for their hearts to open, to allow me to properly apologize, and and to try be the father I should have been.

This year has been especially hard not being able to be part of their lives, and ... well it just hurts.

They're losing their mother to early onset Alzheimers, and I need them to know I'm a better person today, than I was then, that I can be counted on.

***Sigh***

Posted by: browndog downcast at June 21, 2026 11:07 PM (3sXRv)

141 Anand Piper!

Is that the Indian subcontinent version of Piper?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 11:08 PM (ZVgZ4)

142 126 Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM

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He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer



TBF, she was a lunatic. She probably did that to all her mates.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 11:10 PM (sAmhv)

143
***Sigh***

Posted by: browndog downcast at June 21, 2026 11:07 PM (3sXRv)

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Sorry, man. Hoping you and yours can overcome this incident and restore your relationship.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:11 PM (O0L8i)

144 85. Oh great.
Posted by: Weasel

🤣

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 11:12 PM (NFX2v)

145 browndog downcast

Sad to hear. Will do.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 21, 2026 11:13 PM (sAmhv)

146 Sending prayers your way, Browndog. Estrangrment from one's children is a heartache. I hope things change for the better.

Posted by: fly gal at June 21, 2026 11:13 PM (U6vhD)

147 ***Sigh***
Posted by: browndog downcast at June 21, 2026 11:07 PM (3sXRv)
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Hashem always hears the prayers of a broken heart.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 11:13 PM (mWKAz)

148 140 brown dog🙏
You know there will be many....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 11:14 PM (uTEOj)

149 Prayers for you and your boys, Browndog.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 11:14 PM (2YhKe)

150 Prayers, Browndog.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 11:14 PM (VHUov)

151 Sorry, man. Hoping you and yours can overcome this incident and restore your relationship.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:11 PM (O0L8i)

I echo that sentiment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:16 PM (1z8ji)

152 So, just ran across something horrifying.

Islamic end-days prophecy has something called the 'Dabbah Min Al-Ard'. Literally, the 'Beast of the Earth', showing up fairly late. And guess what! It marks people! Said marking is an irrevocable act. Except that in Islam's version, they're taught to want it...

Posted by: Anonymous at June 21, 2026 11:16 PM (wiYsG)

153 Except that in Islam's version, they're taught to want it...

Posted by: Anonymous
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They work for it. everyday

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:18 PM (iLKq8)

154 So sad for you, browndog.

I will pray for peace and courage and reconciliation.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 11:18 PM (A5RD0)

155 Me too, BD.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:19 PM (RCjYY)

156 New Hampshire’s first transgender elected Rep., Stacie Laughton (D) [MPB alert], sentenced to 33 YEARS in prison for the s*xual exploitation of children
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Dirt Farm NH has a booth at Weare Patriotic Celebration. A local couple started this group to teach kids to ride dirt bikes for free on their private property.

https://tinyurl.com/mt4vrxa2

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (iLKq8)

157 Dressing like a dad. I recommend Skechers slip-ons.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (oq9dX)

158 Then I refreshed my memory as to what Johnny Depp has been up to these last 15 years or so. Yikes. If I had $75 million, I think I could do better.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 10:46 PM (RCjYY)

There was a famous audio file on the net a few years ago, of a heated argument between Johnny Depp and his financial manager. (Who I think is the one who released it)
In it Depp accuses the manager of squandering his money and leaving him broke, even though he’d made $100 million in the previous year. The manager fires back, with figures and specific things Depp had done, and said “Johnny, you can’t spend $20 million a month and expect to have anything left, no matter how much you start with!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:23 PM (nuNhM)

159
Dressing like a dad. I recommend Skechers slip-ons.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (oq9dX)

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No more shoes with laces.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 11:25 PM (O0L8i)

160 He pissed off a woman enough she shit on his bed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer


TBF, she was a lunatic. She probably did that to all her mates.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come
.......

She was just prepping them for butt stuff.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:25 PM (oq9dX)

161 Islamic end-days prophecy has something called the 'Dabbah Min Al-Ard'. Literally, the 'Beast of the Earth', showing up fairly late. And guess what! It marks people! Said marking is an irrevocable act. Except that in Islam's version, they're taught to want it...
Posted by: Anonymous at June 21, 2026 11:16 PM (wiYsG)

Let me guess - blue hair and weird tats…

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:25 PM (nuNhM)

162 Frank Gehry es muerto.

Cool buildings, but most of them leaked,

Same with Crank Lloyd Wrong... a building that doesn't keep the rain out is a failure, no matter how much the art critics might like it.

Architecture is very demanding... needs to be esthetic, functional, and economical.

If you can't handle all three, stick with sculpture.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:27 PM (qpyNK)

163 158

Similar to Nick Cage. He sued his business manager. The jury kind of lost interest when they heard Nick had spent appx $10 million (IIRC) for a Mongolian dinosaur skeleton.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:28 PM (RCjYY)

164 > Dabbah Min Al-Ard.

Now, see, I would've figured that for a low-budget Flintstones/Scooby Doo crossover.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:29 PM (qpyNK)

165 Dressing like a dad. I recommend Skechers slip-ons.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:21 PM (oq9dX)

Yes. The walkers are fine. Just don't get those old man shoes with the velcro.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 11:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

166 Sorry, browndog. I hope you and they find reconciliation, or, if not that, peace.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:31 PM (qpyNK)

167 For those who are interested, Abelardo De La Espriella has won the Colombian presidential election. He beat out the current Presidents chosen successor, Ivan Cepeda.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (rbvCR)

168 Same with Crank Lloyd Wrong... a building that doesn't keep the rain out is a failure, no matter how much the art critics might like it.

Architecture is very demanding... needs to be esthetic, functional, and economical.

If you can't handle all three, stick with sculpture.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:27 PM (qpyNK)

Were FLW's designs inherently leaky, or were they put up by builders who did not understand what had to be done to make them weathertight?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (1z8ji)

169 TRex and The Grateful dancing in public?

https://youtu.be/NzFqdkBt71I

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (qx7Zg)

170
She was just prepping them for butt stuff.

Hello Fresh!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 11:33 PM (Cqx++)

171 Which song by Bread was in the tweet? I couldn't hear the music or singing.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:33 PM (qx7Zg)

172 > Ivan Cepeda

Great first baseman!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:34 PM (qpyNK)

173 Just use some Flex Seal on those leaky buildings.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 11:35 PM (Cqx++)

174 For those who are interested, Abelardo De La Espriella has won the Colombian presidential election. He beat out the current Presidents chosen successor, Ivan Cepeda.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (rbvCR)

I see Wikipedia and the Grauniad describe him as "far right", so he may be something of a centrist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:36 PM (1z8ji)

175 169

Oh! They have the steps!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 21, 2026 11:37 PM (uTEOj)

176 Same, Browndog...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 11:37 PM (nbLIj)

177 Just read about grammieWinger, she and Rev have been married ten years. Criminy, I remember when they were dating. Be well.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:38 PM (iLKq8)

178 > Were FLW's designs inherently leaky, or were they put up by builders who did not understand what had to be done to make them weathertight?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (1z8ji)

I think it would be very hard to make Fallingwater not leak, especially with 1936 waterproofing technology. The builders bear some responsibility, perhaps.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:38 PM (qpyNK)

179 Were FLW's designs inherently leaky, or were they put up by builders who did not understand what had to be done to make them weathertight?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:32 PM (1z8ji)

He had a lot of odd roof angles and flat roofs in places, I’ve learned from living in houses with some of these and being around others, that odd roof angles are always points of failure, and flat roofs Always Always Always! leak.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:39 PM (nuNhM)

180 Ivan Cepeda

Great first baseman!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
......

Those Russian Puerto Ricans are the best ball players!

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:40 PM (oq9dX)

181 Petro is an ex terrorist who has a coke problem and a tyranny girlfriend, and is widely considered a communist, so maybe Espriella is a centrist. However he say he is in favor of Bukele'so solution for Elvis Salvador

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 11:40 PM (rbvCR)

182 I want to win the lottery that I may buy a sea worthy shanty boat and have enough money left over for all its fuel needs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:41 PM (iLKq8)

183 > flat roofs Always Always Always! leak.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:39 PM (nuNhM)

Yep. They suck under snow load, too.

It's rare that we have a snowy winter here without at least a few flat-roofed buildings collapsing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:41 PM (qpyNK)

184 What happened to grammieWinger???

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 11:41 PM (VCgbV)

185 Thanks for the background on Bread's "Everything I Own." Adding it to a Father's Day playlist. Some others on the list: Hot Rod Lincoln, Memphis, I Loved Her First, Watching You, Unforgettable (with Natalie Cole), Minutes To Memories, Looking Out My Backdoor, and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)

186 flat roofs Always Always Always! leak.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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There is a flat roof house that has been up for auction, in a neighborhood worth living in, over nine months at a price anyone can afford and there are no bidders.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:44 PM (iLKq8)

187 It's the same neighborhood that the house with the spalling brick is in.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:45 PM (iLKq8)

188
It's rare that we have a snowy winter here without at least a few flat-roofed buildings collapsing.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Just spend a couple of extra bucks and put it on a 5 degree slant.
jeepers

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:47 PM (iLKq8)

189 There is a flat roof house that has been up for auction, in a neighborhood worth living in, over nine months at a price anyone can afford and there are no bidders.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:44 PM (iLKq

Many industrial buildings have flat roofs, apartment blocks, too. They don't seem to have insurmountable leakage problems. Why is it an issue with houses?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:47 PM (1z8ji)

190 Our office building has a flat roof. Leaks like a sieve.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 11:48 PM (oq9dX)

191 Just spend a couple of extra bucks and put it on a 5 degree slant.
jeepers
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:47 PM (iLKq

A five degree slope likely would not let snow slide off.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:49 PM (1z8ji)

192 This is only vaguely related to the architecture comments, but... quite interesting to me.

Some poor bastid & his wife bought Marilyn Monroe's home in L.A. where she died. They were like the 18th owners since MM died in '62. the house had had undergone multiple re-designs.

Nonetheless, the L.A. city council, famed in song & story, recently passed a new law designating the house as a City Cultural Heritage Treasure (or some such).

So... the new, current owner can't remodel it , OR sell it, without Mayor Bass' approval! It's turned into a nightmare. Plus, the new owner is solely responsible for security, which costs a fortune, due to the sightseers.

Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:49 PM (RCjYY)

193 However he say he is in favor of Bukele'so solution for Elvis Salvador

He was great in Viva Lost Wages!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 11:50 PM (1Ff7Z)

194 As 'wth' said, AOP. Obviously a _well-maintained_ flat roof isn't a _guaranteed_ disaster... but you have a good manager, you have a good roof that still might leak if they don't reseal it often enough. You have a bad manager, you have a leaky roof. And for offices? Every year, the trashbag chutes into wastebin watercatchers...

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 11:51 PM (aJQbY)

195 Why is it an issue with houses?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I told Buddy I was going bid on this fantastic buy. He took me to school. Yeah, I worked in a strip center office, nice neighborhood, and it leaked like a sieve. (thought it was a one off)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (iLKq8)

196 So... the new, current owner can't remodel it , OR sell it, without Mayor Bass' approval! It's turned into a nightmare. Plus, the new owner is solely responsible for security, which costs a fortune, due to the sightseers.
Posted by: mnw

He could Always burn it down.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (A5RD0)

197 So... the new, current owner can't remodel it , OR sell it, without Mayor Bass' approval! It's turned into a nightmare. Plus, the new owner is solely responsible for security, which costs a fortune, due to the sightseers.
Posted by: mnw at June 21, 2026 11:49 PM (RCjYY)

I foresee an outbreak of financial combustion in the coming months.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (1z8ji)

198 Which song by Bread was in the tweet? I couldn't hear the music or singing.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 11:33 PM (qx7Zg)

Probably this one..dusty..

https://youtu.be/AeadLurGR1U

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (nbLIj)

199 "Fire insurance... yeah, extra insurance... because the reservoirs are dry!" - current owner

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (aJQbY)

200 As a lad, I worked in a new strip mall here in Alaska. It was fine as long as winter lasted and everything was frozen hard, but come spring... Yep, trash cans catching drips everywhere. Merch destroyed. And so on.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (qpyNK)

201 Five degrees and the rain runs off.
But I was going to say, an old time high pitched roof will last forever. Your grand kids will have to re-roof it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (iLKq8)

202 Elvis Salvador! Do we know him?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (ZVgZ4)

203
94 92 77 66 At the risk of being really crass, that picture of Princess Catherine appears to be backlit and reveals more of her than I think was intended. Or perhaps that's just my imagination.
Posted by: Archimedes

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It would appear that she has nice thighs.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:29 PM

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Buttix.

Posted by: Jack LaLanne, Fitness Titan at June 21, 2026 11:55 PM (mS8PE)

204 > I foresee an outbreak of financial combustion in the coming months.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:52 PM (1z8ji)


Great-Grandpa Borgia always called that "spontaneous combustion caused by the mortgage rubbing against the insurance policy".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 11:56 PM (qpyNK)

205 But Mayor Bass would approve a frog pond in your front yard.

Posted by: Frog People for Bass at June 21, 2026 11:57 PM (oq9dX)

206 raimondo has been huffing his own farts again...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:58 PM (1z8ji)

207 199 "Fire insurance... yeah, extra insurance... because the reservoirs are dry!" - current owner

Posted by: RandomDave
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I live more than a thousand miles from CA. I buy water bottled from CA. It is the least expensive bottled water of all the grocery stores in town.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 11:58 PM (iLKq8)

208 But Mayor Bass would approve a frog pond in your front yard.
Posted by: Frog People for Bass at June 21, 2026 11:57 PM (oq9dX)

LOL. Do a deep fake video of Karen Bass eyeballing a big fly that lights on an object near her. Suddenly, her huge tongue darts out, snaffles the fly, and returns to her maw. She chews contentedly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 12:00 AM (1z8ji)

209 I live more than a thousand miles from CA. I buy water bottled from CA. It is the least expensive bottled water of all the grocery stores in town.

Posted by: Braenyard

I drink water out of the tap.

Good enough for me.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 22, 2026 12:02 AM (A5RD0)

210 when you can't defend taco's dump you call names. Pathetic.
Posted by: raimondo at June 22, 2026 12:01 AM (GvOiG)

You need to learn reading comprehension. I called you no names, just suggested that you have been getting high on your own supply.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 12:03 AM (1z8ji)

211 Was there an update about Grammie Winger or The Rev that I missed?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 12:09 AM (qx7Zg)

212 A thousand miles:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzMcjKKidMo

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:11 AM (iLKq8)

213 that I missed?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Saturday morning.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:11 AM (iLKq8)

214
Elvis Salvador! Do we know him?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit


Is he related to Carmen San Diego?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2026 12:12 AM (Cqx++)

215 New Balance used to make great sneakers.

Used to

Now its crap just like all the other brands.

$$$ and still feels worse then the worn out ones in the back of your closet.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2026 12:16 AM (sKqQm)

216 Hey Horde, Happy Father's Day!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 12:19 AM (0nHVk)

217 Late posting this, but I always do on Father's Day. So,here 'tis. Chet Atkins. Very poignant.

http://tiny.cc/o3g5101

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2026 12:19 AM (XeU6L)

218 I just realized that I haven't smoked my (tobacco) pipe today. What's the point of having a bad habit if you don't indulge it?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:23 AM (bhZyo)

219 Elvis Salvador! Do we know him?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
......

I think I saw him at the ER. Fat guy with chrome shades complaining of constipation.

Posted by: wth at June 22, 2026 12:24 AM (oq9dX)

220 Hey, Debby Doberman Schultz, good to see you here, happy daze.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:24 AM (iLKq8)

221 Evenin’, All. Maybe I’ve said that before on this thread.

Anyway, Hi.

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 12:26 AM (77rzZ)

222 What's the point of having a bad habit if you don't indulge it?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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You live longer and healthier?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:26 AM (iLKq8)

223 140. Posted by: browndog downcast

Trust in the Lord...Prayers for both of your sons to be open to reconcilation, and for you to find the right words to bring them back into your life, for all of your sakes.

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 22, 2026 12:28 AM (NFX2v)

224 You live longer and healthier?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others


Where's the fun in that?

Posted by: Elvis Salvadoe at June 22, 2026 12:30 AM (oq9dX)

225 Well, 10:30 here, and I am getting a little sleepy. Time to get some sack time. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 22, 2026 12:31 AM (1z8ji)

226 I just realized that I haven't smoked my (tobacco) pipe today. What's the point of having a bad habit if you don't indulge it?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:23 AM (bhZyo)

My bad habits are automatically activated. I don't even need a daily planner to remember them. My alarm clock is the signal to start them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2026 12:32 AM (snZF9)

227 216 Hey, DDS!

Posted by: Bulg at June 22, 2026 12:34 AM (77rzZ)

228 So I've just come in from sitting on the patio where i was smoking a cuban, and drink 16 year old scotch...
Damn.
I'm glad that i am a dad because this would of sucked if this were mom's day.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 12:36 AM (2WIwB)

229 lol
Just clicked over to Naked and Afraid. Thank goodness they blur out the nasty bits. They should rename that show Uggos on Parade. Bunch of dirty chuds running around with no underwear.

Posted by: Elvis Salvadoe at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (oq9dX)

230 My bad habits are automatically activated. I don't even need a daily planner to remember them. My alarm clock is the signal to start them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Bravo

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (iLKq8)

231 There are so many ways for a flat roof to go wrong. It starts when you start poking holes in it for plumbing vents, HVAC ducts, and sometimes even (shudder) skylights. Every time there is a change in temperature, the roof will expand and contract, pulling at the edges of the openings.

Next, the roof drains invariably get clogged with wind-borne trash. Ever see a roof drain filled with Styrofoam packing peanuts? I have.

Lastly, when snow melts, it doesn't do so evenly. Water will start running in places you would never imagine.

Like that poor little baby child in the ghetto that Elvis sang about, a flat roof will invariably come to a bad end.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (bhZyo)

232 Night AOP.

This going to bed early stuff isn't really going to work for me. I have been a night owl for most of my life, it is a very tough habit to break.

Hi Braenyard and Bulg et al.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 12:41 AM (0nHVk)

233 Here, the 3rd week in July is the hottest period, although often early August, dog days, feels worse due to the humilarity.
Posted by: publius

S.F.'s record high (106) occurred in 2016 on the Friday of Labor Day weekend. That was hot.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 12:42 AM (DZ9Lv)

234 @EndWokeness - Jun 19

South Bushwick Church in NYC just burned down. 173 years old. Cause not known.

@RealJamesWoods - Jun 20

If anybody with an IQ in the triple digits doesn’t know, I would be shocked.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:42 AM (iLKq8)

235 So I've just come in from sitting on the patio where i was smoking a cuban, and drink 16 year old scotch...

Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2026 12:36 AM (2WIwB)


And then a thought occurred...They ain't doing that in Bangladesh.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 22, 2026 12:43 AM (snZF9)

236 So how long before the New British make the toffs wear robes and hijabs at their gatherings?

Posted by: Azjaeger at June 22, 2026 12:45 AM (3/XaG)

237 I erred. It was 9/1/17.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 12:45 AM (DZ9Lv)

238 236

From what I've read about the new MP who's going to replace Starmer, he'll be even worse.

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2026 12:48 AM (RCjYY)

239 So I've just come in from sitting on the patio where i was smoking a cuban, and drink 16 year old scotch...

Posted by: Diogenes

What scotch?

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 12:49 AM (DZ9Lv)

240 Nytol

Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2026 12:50 AM (RCjYY)

241 Fire insurance. Last week a grass fire roared through a giant auto salvage yard in Wendell, Idaho. 10,000 cars on the lot and they lost 9000 of them.

The office and workshop were insured, the inventory was not.

https://shorturl.at/757Qt

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2026 12:53 AM (bhZyo)

242 9/1/17 -
On Sept. 1, 1973, George Foreman knocked out José Roman in the first round, just two minutes into the match, to retain his claim as the heavyweight champion of the world.
--

When he won the gold in Mexico City, did you see him walk around the ring carrying the American flag while other asshoes stood on the podium giving the black power salute?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 12:55 AM (iLKq8)

243 Lol Bers.

Mike Hammer that is a beautiful song.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 12:57 AM (0nHVk)

244 Just checking in.

We are safe after a night of tornadoes dropping everywhere around us. A small village about 9 miles north of us had two people killed in their mobile homes. Our own little city did have a tornado on the north side of town, but I haven't heard anything much about that one yet.

I hope everyone is ok as well, these storms are causing havoc as they move southeast.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 22, 2026 01:03 AM (2F0/Y)

245 When he won the gold in Mexico City, did you see him walk around the ring carrying the American flag
Posted by: Braenyard

www.youtube.com/shorts/ggluspG7xJU

This is cool:
www.youtube.com/shorts/Mj8FlYDHM-o

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 22, 2026 01:07 AM (DZ9Lv)

246 From what I've read about the new MP who's going to replace Starmer, he'll be even worse.
Posted by: mnw at June 22, 2026 12:48 AM (RCjYY)

He's going to work looking like Lawrence of Arabia in the desert, including the knife?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 22, 2026 01:09 AM (qx7Zg)

247 Joyenz, glad that you are safe for now, I will pray that you continue to be.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 01:11 AM (0nHVk)

248 229 lol
Just clicked over to Naked and Afraid. Thank goodness they blur out the nasty bits. They should rename that show Uggos on Parade. Bunch of dirty chuds running around with no underwear.
Posted by: Elvis Salvadoe at June 22, 2026 12:40 AM (oq9dX)

One of the last TV shows my father ever got into.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:13 AM (T6aVk)

249 Is there anything in the world of fashion Princess Catherine couldn’t pull off?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:14 AM (T6aVk)

250 206 raimondo has been huffing his own farts again...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 11:58 PM (1z8ji)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:16 AM (T6aVk)

251 Good evening. Thanks for the ONT Sisco & Piper.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2026 01:16 AM (gWiqo)

252
If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 01:16 AM (T6aVk)

That asshole has been swept away. Cow demons and snake spirits must be swept away. He is now on Xinjiang province fixing tractors on some shitty rations.

Properly attribute my genius next time.

Posted by: Mao at June 22, 2026 01:18 AM (T6aVk)

253 Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 01:11 AM (0nHVk)

Thank you, Debby. Time to finally get some sleep.

Night all!

Posted by: Joyenz at June 22, 2026 01:19 AM (2F0/Y)

254 I hope everyone is ok as well, these storms are causing havoc as they move southeast.

Posted by: Joyenz
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Glad you are OK.
Time to have that storm cellar dug?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:21 AM (iLKq8)

255 249 Is there anything in the world of fashion Princess Catherine couldn’t pull off?

Posted by: Cow Demon
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She pulled it off quiet nicely.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:22 AM (iLKq8)

256 well… so much for this weekend

unfortunate title

https://youtu.be/P63QerLsm9Q

g'nite, y'all 💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - unfortunately at June 22, 2026 01:22 AM (9bb3y)

257 Howdy, horde.

Hope everyone's Fathers Day was as good as possible!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:23 AM (rdVOm)

258 Hope everyone's Fathers Day was as good as possible!

Posted by: JQ
--

Good to see you here. A night's not complete if you don't show up.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:25 AM (iLKq8)

259 I was really stoked for Naked and Afraid but disappointed to find out it is not about showering in prison.

Posted by: James Talarico at June 22, 2026 01:25 AM (r7ofC)

260 Aww... Thanks, Braenyard!

*blushes*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:27 AM (rdVOm)

261 and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)
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Saved me a post. Here's the link:

https://youtu.be/5hr64MxYpgk

No, the song has nothing to do with my own relationship with my father. On the contrary, I had wonderful parents who brought us up right. We were very fortunately blessed to have them both for so many years. I miss them every day.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 01:36 AM (3UbC6)

262 Hey JQ, I hope that your Hubby enjoyer his lobster tail, and Braenyard is right.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 01:38 AM (0nHVk)

263 I cooked a lobster tail for hubby's *treat* today:

Removed the shell, cut it up, cooked in butter over low heat just until opaque-- then submerged the pieces in melted, lightly seasoned butter & drove to the nursing home. He *loved* it!

And then poured the butter over his regular lunch! LOL. Chicken, taters & corn-- yeah, I'd do that too.

Stepson called while we were outside for hubby's cig time... great (almost 40!) kid... Just got a promotion to ass't supervisor at his job. Told him we're proud of him. Hubby was alert and lucid today, so that was awesome!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:38 AM (rdVOm)

264 Have to hook up my Sansui, can't get the volume or pitches out of my little computer set.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:39 AM (iLKq8)

265 Hi, Debby!

How goes the hell of fighting night-owlishness? LOL

I'm about to give up... some nights I can sleep (not many) and others, I can. *shrug*

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:40 AM (rdVOm)

266 disappointed to find out it is not about showering in prison.

Posted by: James Talarico
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May you find out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:42 AM (iLKq8)

267 *sometimes CAN, sometimes CAN'T

ugh.......

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:44 AM (rdVOm)

268 It's been toasty here all week and 3 days since last lawn-watering, so I did that again today. After folding up that big tarp, of course.

Trimmed a couple of roses and pulled a few weeds, nothing strenuous of course, too hot for heavy work.

It's nice to just putter, without any time constraints!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:49 AM (rdVOm)

269 261 and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)
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Saved me a post. Here's the link:

https://youtu.be/5hr64MxYpgk

No, the song has nothing to do with my own relationship with my father. On the contrary, I had wonderful parents who brought us up right. We were very fortunately blessed to have them both for so many years. I miss them every day.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey



Sometimes a Great Song is just a Great Song. It, of course resonates with people in the situation that the song is about but it even resonates with those with great relationship with our parents. My parents are still on this side of eternity and I always cherish my moments with them. They stagger along, being in there 80s, but are doing ok otherwise. The song is beautiful.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 01:49 AM (sAmhv)

270 267 *sometimes CAN, sometimes CAN'T

ugh.......

Posted by: JQ
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I have discovered/decided not to be concerned. If it's not necessary to be on a timetable it doesn't matter. Sleep when it comes. Gerald Ford slept four hours a night and took naps in the mid day. If I have an appointment, what the heck, I get up and do it. I can sleep when I get home. It's a natural thing. Don't allow the constraints of regimented workforce influence your thinking.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 01:51 AM (iLKq8)

271 Don't allow the constraints of regimented workforce influence your thinking.
Posted by: Braenyard

Haha, I've always been annoyed by the concept of "early risers are superior to late risers"-- what a load of horse crap!-- but that's not my current issue...

It's so hot in the afternoon! I really ought to get my ass out of the rack early, so can get yard stuff done before lunch time. Any later in the day, and work becomes a miserable experience due to the heat.

But then again, I only have *myself* to please... heh.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 01:59 AM (rdVOm)

272 I actually have yawned a couple of times in the past few minutes, so I may drift off, I hope that it works better than last night. Sweet dreams Horde.

JQ, sounds like a really nice day.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 22, 2026 02:01 AM (0nHVk)

273 But then again, I only have *myself* to please... heh.

Posted by: JQ
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I've never understood those who jump out of bed ready to 'hit it'.
Oh, please be quiet and put on the coffee. Anyway ---
Turn the tables. Stay up a little longer and hit the yard work at sunrise. Finish up and go to bed while everyone else sweats outside..

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:06 AM (iLKq8)

274 Good night everyone. Hope you have a great week ahead.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2026 02:08 AM (CHHv1)

275 'Night, Debby! Good luck 'changing shifts'!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:12 AM (rdVOm)

276 'Night, BC! Sweet dreams to you & Robert the Cat (TM)

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:13 AM (rdVOm)

277 >>I've never understood those who jump out of bed ready to 'hit it'.

I have a whole family FULL of *that type*! Ugh. I once got the attempted guilt-trip from an uncle, because I slept late (never mind that my shift at that time was 5pm to 3am) and getting up by 11am required effort!)

>>Stay up a little longer and hit the yard work at sunrise. Finish up and go to bed while everyone else sweats outside..

That would F up lunches with hubby. Otherwise, I *would* do that! I just need to get up a little earlier, not a whole lot really, just a couple hours. You'd think it would be no big deal, but it IS for me.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:21 AM (rdVOm)

278 I think J.D. Vance has a quite good sense of humor. I laughed about hostile negotiations and "The View". I'll let others at another time critique his Iran negotiations. Since I am not in the inner -or even outer-Presidential circle - I have no comment to make about what he should or shouldn't have said to the Iranians.

Oh, yes, Princess Kate's dress is lovely.

I'm glad that you and hubby had a very nice Father's Day, JQ, and that he enjoyed his lobster tail.

Good night.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:21 AM (n3VHW)

279 Laughter erupts in the European Parliament after Macron’s MEP Fabienne Keller tries to get conservative MEPs punished for serious breeches of the rules

She says they met on the Parliament’s roof & “drank a lot, a lot” to celebrate passing new laws for deporting illegal migrant
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Full Screen:

https://tinyurl.com/tx8zvwys

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:23 AM (iLKq8)

280 I meant Princess Kate's yellow dress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 22, 2026 02:23 AM (n3VHW)

281 261 and The Living Years ....

Posted by: Rex B at June 21, 2026 11:43 PM (rgnea)

Woke me up for several weeks in eighth grade as they happened to be playing it on the radio.

The Living Years, by Mike Plus the Mechanics and featuring Paul Carrack on vocals, is on my lengthy list of “songs to play when self-eliminating”. Therefore especially hated.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 02:26 AM (T6aVk)

282 Laughter erupts in the European Parliament after Macron’s MEP Fabienne Keller tries to get conservative MEPs punished for serious breeches of the rules

She says they met on the Parliament’s roof & “drank a lot, a lot” to celebrate passing new laws for deporting illegal migrant
----

Full Screen:

https://tinyurl.com/tx8zvwys

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:23 AM (iLKq
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LOL!!!!!!!

So... Karenne?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:31 AM (3UbC6)

283 no big deal, but it IS for me.

Posted by: JQ
--

It's a natural circadian rhythm. Some have one, some have the other. Many a year morning was 4:00 or 4:30 but that was responsibility. Without a forced timeline I'm an all-nighter by nature. Evening jobs were the best. Times past a friend and I would go out on the terrace, share a smoke and bid the morning sun.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:31 AM (iLKq8)

284 281 I meant Princess Kate's yellow dress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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It's obvious she's had a rough go but she wears that yellow dress well.
More power to her.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:34 AM (iLKq8)

285 It's a natural circadian rhythm. Some have one, some have the other. Many a year morning was 4:00 or 4:30 but that was responsibility. Without a forced timeline I'm an all-nighter by nature. Evening jobs were the best. Times past a friend and I would go out on the terrace, share a smoke and bid the morning sun.
Posted by: Braenyard

Absolutely! I am the same way.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:36 AM (rdVOm)

286 I don't see what cicadas and their rhythms have to do with sleeping. It's just scientifical.

Posted by: Neil de Grasse High Tyson Chicken at June 22, 2026 02:39 AM (KL9cQ)

287 self-eliminating

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 02:26 AM (T6aVk)
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I would have thought that's the equivalent of Daffy Duck's "I can only do it once" grand finale.

https://youtu.be/BRMrlFRRJgY

BTW, what Hollywood political correctness required WB to change the above original to this?

https://youtu.be/ZKpyrHiZgZA?t=68

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:40 AM (3UbC6)

288 In a joint statement at the end of the Lake Lucerne summit, the mediators - Qatar and Pakistan - said "encouraging progress has been made" during the 18 hours of negotiations.
👍👎The mediators said the U.S. and Iran agreed to establish a High Level Committee, which will provide political oversight to the negotiation in addition to working groups focused on nuclear, sanctions, and a monitoring and dispute resolution group.
---ya da, ya da, ya da.

Predicting it won't be long before IRGC takes out it's watch and pulls the trigger.....again. ----... they can't help themselves
a wild animal is easier to tame.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:43 AM (iLKq8)

289 I told Dad what snobby uncle said about my "sleeping in" and what I told him: that it's not what time you rise, but what you *do with the day* that counts. Plus, the fact that I DID NOT mention that at least I *have* a job while snobby uncle was unemployed, LOL.

Dad chuckled at the truth of it, and approved my restraint-- in the name of keeping the peace with his in-laws.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 02:46 AM (rdVOm)

290 Predicting it won't be long before IRGC takes out it's watch and pulls the trigger.....again. ----... they can't help themselves
a wild animal is easier to tame.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:43 AM (iLKq
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I'm guessing this is a 60-day hudnah during which Iran will drag their feet to comply with anything and prep themselves for their next stage of jihad. Maximum they will ask for an extension of the hudnah.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 02:48 AM (3UbC6)

291 It's obvious she's had a rough go but she wears that yellow dress well.
More power to her.

Posted by: Braenyard


More Backlight !!!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2026 02:56 AM (/lPRQ)

292 Does anybody have a spare cat I can borrow? I have a mouse. It's running around the place. I can see it. I got mouse traps all over but it's ignoring them. Maybe I can get a flamethrower but I live in a condo. Probably a bad idea. I hates mice!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 03:05 AM (sAmhv)

293 More Backlight !!!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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She knew what she was doing. Have no intuition but think it was a statement, I'm back, I'm whole and I ain't quitting. Make way for Her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales, Countess of Chester, Duchess of Cornwall and Duchess of Rothesay in Scotland.
She's had a rough go but she's as tough as she is pretty. Charles, beware the Princess and her husband Prince William, the Prince of Wales.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:07 AM (iLKq8)

294 Puddleglum, what are you using for bait?

I have found that small nuts or grain work well, without being messy. Highly recommend these traps, they are reusable and easy to bait & set:

https://tinyurl.com/58dr6r3f

I use raw, in-shell sunflower seed or pieces of cracked corn.

Best of luck!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:16 AM (rdVOm)

295 Search Assist
Donald Trump backed Abelardo de la Espriella for the presidency of Colombia, endorsing him as a strong leader against his opponent, progressive Iván Cepeda.
--
Colombian President-Elect @ABDELAESPRIELLA and his vice-president @jrestrp are out celebrating on the streets of Barranquilla tonight after winning.
--
Due to the assassination risk from communist terrorists, they can’t shake hands with supporters
--
Milei congratulates @ABDELAESPRIELLA on winning the Colombian presidential election:

“The lion and the tiger roar in Latin America!”
--
I think he's going to give Espriella a chainsaw.




Orlando Avedaño@OrlvndoA5 o'clock
Elon Musk also reacts to Abelardo de la Espriella's victory
Elon Musk@elonmusk8h
Replying to @visegrad24 @ABDELAESPRIELLA

Cool

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:20 AM (iLKq8)

296 Peanut butter

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:23 AM (iLKq8)

297 Spring traps have peanut butter on them. I have sticky traps scattered around too.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 03:28 AM (sAmhv)

298 Peanut butter or bacon are also good mouse baits. But-- they tend to attract ants. If ants are a problem, recommend 'dry' baits like grain/nuts. Ants tend to leave those alone.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:29 AM (rdVOm)

299 Puddleglum, if the mice are ignoring your bait, you need to try different bait. What are they getting into?

Mice eat almost anything, but... you could try pasta, or rice, or a rolled-up pinch of bread... just about anything, if you've noticed them eating it.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:34 AM (rdVOm)

300 Another thing, Puddleglum: placement.

Put traps along baseboards and under/behind furniture, back of cabinets. They like 'cover' and tend to stay away from open areas.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:38 AM (rdVOm)

301 Donald Trump backed Abelardo de la Espriella for the presidency of Colombia, endorsing him as a strong leader against his opponent, progressive Iván Cepeda.
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:20 AM (iLKq
-

Handy koinkadinky chart:

https://tinyurl.com/2s3v242a

Off to exercise!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2026 03:44 AM (rmmrE)

302 Mice is monsters. When I bought the country place it was empty -
except for mice. Set out 15, really, Victor traps. All night long, snap, slap same thing next night. Did n't get rid of the little bastards till I bought Warfarin. The dogs didn't like it so no worries. Everywhere I put it. Eat it bitches.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:45 AM (iLKq8)

303 Been mostly awake since 2am

Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2026 03:47 AM (Ia/+0)

304 303 Mice is monsters. When I bought the country place it was empty -
except for mice. Set out 15, really, Victor traps. All night long, snap, slap same thing next night. Did n't get rid of the little bastards till I bought Warfarin. The dogs didn't like it so no worries. Everywhere I put it. Eat it bitches.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:45 AM (iLKq

(takes notes)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 03:48 AM (T6aVk)

305 293 Does anybody have a spare cat I can borrow? I have a mouse. It's running around the place. I can see it. I got mouse traps all over but it's ignoring them. Maybe I can get a flamethrower but I live in a condo. Probably a bad idea. I hates mice!!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 03:05 AM (sAmhv)

Place them along the baseboards. Mice love to run against them.

As soon as I started doing that I started catching the fuckers left right and center.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 03:50 AM (T6aVk)

306 285 281 I meant Princess Kate's yellow dress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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It's obvious she's had a rough go but she wears that yellow dress well.
More power to her.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 02:34 AM (iLKq

May her next dress be blue.

Posted by: Depeche Mode at June 22, 2026 03:52 AM (T6aVk)

307 Warfarin... blood thinner. Granddad used to joke about taking his "daily rat poison". Thanks for the memory!

I don't use warfarin because of neighborhood cats (plus my own) -- I don't want to harm any pets!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 03:53 AM (rdVOm)

308 I'm sorry, but I have long crushed on Princess Catherine, and among the people who are not entirely blameless are people like the late, great OregonMuse who always featured her on the chess thread dress portion (along with that Asian chick who I did not get the obsession with - though Asian women do exactly zero for me).

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 03:55 AM (T6aVk)

309 Handy koinkadinky chart:
https://tinyurl.com/2s3v242a
Off to exercise!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
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Yes the southern hemisphere has been drifting away from socialist/communism to the conservative right. Lula bitch is holding on only because Brazil is so corrupt. It's truely a pincer movement generated by Trump, hemispherical independence. Milei is the strong man of the South and Trump of the North pushing out the communist mindset and the CCP.

With God's help the North and South will align in mutual alliance and trust strengthening our self reliance eliminating Any dependence on the old world. - not meaning that we won't do business, just meaning - we don't need them.

Praying that 'little satin' Israel and 'big satin' US are always aligned.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 03:59 AM (iLKq8)

310 Place them along the baseboards. Mice love to run against them.
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Behind the oven, around the ice box.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 22, 2026 04:03 AM (iLKq8)

311 Puddleglum, my link at 295 says traps are "disposable" LOL, right. I've reused those *dozens* of times! (Had a bad problem before Cat arrived)

I used them outdoors too-- 4 of them-- would empty and re-bait them in the morning before work. Then empty and re-bait them after work. And again empty and re-bait before going to bed. A dozen mice *each day* caught with raw, in-shell sunflower seeds. Those traps last a long time and don't need to be trashed after single use!

Traps were placed 2 under deck stairs, 1 in corner between outbuilding & retaining wall, and 1 next to house under shrubbery. Score, 3 times a day EACH, for couple of weeks. Probably could've caught more, but *catches* slowed afterward. Don't know if they got smart or eradicated for a while...

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 04:23 AM (rdVOm)

312 Put traps along baseboards and under/behind furniture, back of cabinets. They like 'cover' and tend to stay away from open areas.


That I've done. I do have sunflower seeds. I'll add them to the trap menu. I do have the baseboards covered but I'll check.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:29 AM (sAmhv)

313 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 22, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

314 Getting behind the oven is difficult, but I have traps all around it. The sticky kind. I'll remove some stuff under the dining room table. That's where I see the mice running around the most. I think they found an empty bag. I have several there.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:31 AM (sAmhv)

315 That I've done. I do have sunflower seeds. I'll add them to the trap menu. I do have the baseboards covered but I'll check.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at June 22, 2026 04:29 AM (sAmhv)

I have never left bait. I just left out the glue traps where I saw them running around. I set them out at sunset, and when getting ready for work the next morning...lo and behold, one or two of the little bastards are on the glue traps, struggling and shitting everywhere trying to get out. (I then put the trap in a plastic shopping bag and tie it up and throw it in the dumpster.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 04:33 AM (T6aVk)

316 Puddleglum-- buy a small bag of birdseed mix. Pick out large seeds/nuts for bait. Keep the bag in a mouse-proof container, LOL.

Good luck catching the lil bastards!

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 04:37 AM (rdVOm)

317 When cat leaves a large rat carcass, I tie it up in a grocery bag & toss it:

If only a couple days before home trash pick-up-- in garbage can at home.

If hot weather and it'll be several days before home trash pick-up-- double bag and take it to gas station trash can.

Works for me, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at June 22, 2026 04:40 AM (rdVOm)

318 Sticky traps, along the baseboards.

But first, find out where they're getting in. I had cleaned out an infestation in the studio where I hadn't seen a mouse in 6 months and then, wham! I find a box of cereal in the pantry cabinet where there's a hole chewed into the back of the box. Input out the traps and caught three over the b next two weeks, but I still found those little mouse turds here and there. A week goes by with 4 traps set along the wall, under the sink, behind a set of shelves. Nothing. I finally set a sticky board along the wall near the door and tied it to the stove leg with a piece of wire. Got 'im!
I found that they had found their way up the outside wall - the little buggers can climb rough surfaces easily - into a small space under the eaves, through the attic, then down the space where the built in oven used to be. I stuffed that with rockwool insulation then blocked it off with a couple of pieces of plywood. I also plugged the space under the eaves with steel wool and a screen.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 22, 2026 04:48 AM (RW118)

319 PM Starmer is resigning.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 22, 2026 05:55 AM (T6aVk)

Gun Thread: Post NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Post NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition! I guess it's inevitable after a NoVAMoMe, but it still comes and goes so quickly. A bigly hearty thank you to all those who made the effort to come. If you attended this year's NoVAMoMe, or any MoMe for that matter, please speak up with your impressions in the comments below. Who knows, it might just be your words that inspires a scaredy-cat lurker to attend one!

Happy Father's Day to all you Dads out there!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

FUNdamentals of MoMe'n that is, with the operative word being FUN!

The social event of the season kicked off Friday afternoon with a small group and perfect weather, and by perfect I mean really actually perfect. The Pre-MoMe is a low key affair and among other things we mostly discussed the perfect weather, and enjoyed each other's company without being in full NoVAMoMe mode.

The following day was the main event, and to make up for the perfect weather the day before we had, you guessed it, more perfect weather. People arrived at the appointed time, and did the normal MoMe things, which is to say, enjoyed each other's company. We were fortunate to have attracted some new mostly-lurker types who, judging by the smiles, enjoyed themselves thoroughly. It's so nice to watch people meeting and re-acquainting with their online pals.

I say this a lot as you all know, but these get-togethers are pretty special, and you are only cheating yourself if you don't make the effort to get to one. I am aware that we have a fair amount of introverts among us, and imagine that's fairly common among online communities, but I cannot overemphasize the low-key nature of these gatherings. You owe it to yourself to give it a try at least once. You can absolutely be a total wallflower and hide and not talk to anyone, or be the life of the party, the choice is yours. There is absolutely zero pressure from anyone, and believe me when I say you will not be the biggest weirdo present.

If you missed the NoVAMoMe, fear not. The TXMoMe is right around the corner, October 16-17, in Corsicana, TX. Contact Ben Had for details. A link is always on the main page, left sidebar.

Finally, I want to thank my bestest blog buddy bluebell for her continued friendship over all these years. She makes being the nicest person in the world look easy.

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Model of 1917

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Wait a minute! Wait just a dang minute! I made a video at Weasel Acres on this very rifle!

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Grains?

What are those little numbers on the ammo box?

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Greatest .357 Magnum?

Our pal Hickok45 takes a look.

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Our Pal Leisure Time

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Hostage Family Copter!

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The Astounding She-Monster!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Bang

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 07:00 PM (os4kt)

2 Hello all!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:01 PM (qEb4U)

4 I went to the NoVaMoMe in 2024. It was fantastic. And I'm a shut-in who is terrified of crowds.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2026 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

5 Good evening to all an I’m looking forward to reading about the MoMe.

Posted by: Coelacanth at June 21, 2026 07:03 PM (vt7xw)

6 bluebell and Weasel, thank you for once again hosting what was an amazing MoMe.

You are the best.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:04 PM (afJtY)

7 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 07:05 PM (zC76q)

8 Howdy!

Did some shootin' in the last couple of weeks. Went with a friend to his gun club in rural Western PA. It's right behind the middle of nowhere. Didn't get a chance to shoot my S&W FPC (.9mm) but did get extensive work with my .357 revolver. I did ok.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 21, 2026 07:07 PM (sAmhv)

9 Practice, practice, practice. And don't comment in all caps like that Obama idiot.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (OB8ow)

10 You can absolutely be a total wallflower and hide and not talk to anyone

Though, you probably won't succeed at the 'not talking to anyone'. Other wallflowers will notice and you will soon be surrounded by them and having an absolute blast.

I'm sorry I had to miss it again this year. I will probably miss Texas, too. It's turning into a very rough year for me. But I can smile, sitting here, remembering all the other times and all the people I've met.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (kU0PQ)

11 This was my first MoMe. It was truly a thrill getting to meet my imaginary friends, put faces to names, and share stories. Bluebell and Weasel are gracious hosts, and made me feel welcome and that they were really glad I came. I regret only that I have missed so many meetups in the past. I hope not to miss any going forward. This is the best group I have been associated with.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (z6ONu)

12 And I would like to offer a laurel, and hearty handshake, to bluebell and Weasel for putting together yet another great NoVaMoMe.

And thanks to all of you who ventured out and made it the great social event that it is!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 07:08 PM (zC76q)

13 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 07:09 PM (BCwQW)

14 I went to the NoVaMoMe in 2024. It was fantastic. And I'm a shut-in who is terrified of crowds.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2026 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

And it was fantastic meeting you! I hope you can join more of the events.

Also, crowds isn't a thing with us. We're more of a horde.

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 07:10 PM (kU0PQ)

15 there's talk Richard "Lord British" Garriott is getting Ultima back.
Maybe he can backtrack and make Ultima 8-9 actually good.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 07:11 PM (gKWVE)

16 People arrived at the appointed time, and did the normal MoMe things

So, the introverts looked at their shoes, and the extroverts looked at your shoes?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:11 PM (0sNs1)

17 I’m envious of y’all who attended. I’m stuck on my little deserted island, pumping ethyl and selling over-priced groceries.
And my Gubs are way up yonder feeling lonely.
Thx, bluebell and Weasel, in any event. These MoMes keep us together.
And don’t require much bail money.

Posted by: RI Red at June 21, 2026 07:12 PM (SHg5Q)

18 And the 2026 NoVA MoMe is in the books, and it was a very good one. Let me add my thanks to Bluebell and Weasel for hosting this and being such gracious hosts. Weather was perfect for the Horde gathering. Loved meeting new attendees and reconnecting with those who have attended before. It is just such a low key picnic atmosphere, plus good company, food and drinks!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

19 and believe me when I say you will not be the biggest weirdo present.

Who is the biggest weirdo present?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:14 PM (0sNs1)

20 Probably me

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:16 PM (z6ONu)

21 Lest I forget :

A very Happy Father’s Day to all the fathers and grandfathers here

Toughest and most important job

Posted by: Coelacanth at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (vt7xw)

22 Aw Weasel, you made me cry! We do make a good Moron team, don't we.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (afFes)

23 Probably me
Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:16 PM


Even having only been to TxMoMes, I can guarantee that's not the case.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (0sNs1)

24 Buck, I'm so glad you came. And I do hope you come back. Beckoning, I'm waiting and hoping you'll be back again. I'm hoping we didn't scare you away.

It's always nice to meet new friends and always wonderful to see our ol' faithfuls. You guys really are the best! Thank you for making it such a great day.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (afFes)

25 And for those interested, today we gathered at the range to practice, and also try new things. My goal was to practice trigger pull as taught in NH, and it was successful - but of course requires more work. I was generally grouping shots, perhaps not where I wanted to, but I was grouping them. I also shot my first .45 (thank you Scoob) and was pleasantly surprised by the experience. I imagined the gub to be heavy and recoil significant. I was wrong on both counts.
But today reminded me that I need to get back into the twice a week practice schedule.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

26 I believe that sewing machine shown in the leisure time video is a Singer #221, aka the Singer Lightweight. Well known to quilters and codependent enablers er, husbands of quilters everywhere. My wife owns as many 221s as I have M1s. That may or may not be a coincidence.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (vTZFs)

27 The weirdo is the guy with, you know, that thing.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (vFG9F)

28 Did bluebell do her usual self-defense/enforcing discipline-in-the-yard masterclass?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)

29 Featherweight, not Lightweight.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 07:21 PM (vTZFs)

30 And yes, happy Father's Day to all you wonderful dads and dad-figures! My kids send Father's Day greetings to our former neighbor who never had kids of his own but always treated my kids like his own. He and his wife are part of the family. They retired and moved away and we miss them.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:22 PM (afFes)

31 It's been a while since I attended a NoVaMoMee, although I was at the first 3 (or 4?). If you're lurking and you're concerned you're going to have to put your real name on a name tag, nope. There are a bunch of morons and 'ettes whose real names I still don't know, even though I've met them in person.

As for the meeting in person part, it's fun to put nics to faces, and if you're a regular reader you already have a bit of familiarity with a bunch of them. For some of them, you're like, yup, the persona online is exactly who they are in real life. For me, Berserker was like that (Mrs. Berserker is a great gal too). Hrothgar as well. And seeing AlextheChick get riled up was always fun.

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:22 PM (1ieqq)

32 Of note to those of you in Virginia: with 9 days to go until the evil new laws take effect, I was curious how it would be at the range. It was empty. Have no idea if that's because it was beautiful weather and Father's Day, but I'll have a better idea on Friday. On the wall of long guns, more than half had been removed. Same for the general supply walls. And it seemed to me that RSOs were far more on alert on the range than previous.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

33 28 Did bluebell do her usual self-defense/enforcing discipline-in-the-yard masterclass?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)
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I was too busy doing my usual nagging, making everybody put on a name tag.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:23 PM (afFes)

34 Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:18 PM (afFes)
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I think so by golly!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:24 PM (GNqmQ)

35 Vendette! Wish you could have been there. We miss you. Hope all is well up north.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:24 PM (afFes)

36 Of course range time today was followed with by food and beverage at our own MiniMoMe. You know, where 2 or more Morons are gathered, thus is a MoMe. And a great time was had by all.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

37 and believe me when I say you will not be the biggest weirdo present.
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The Horde is its own little Island of Misfit Toys. Everywhere else I'm an oddball, but the Horde feels like home.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM (lOlUK)

38 Glad everyone had a good time

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:29 PM (Ia/+0)

39 Everywhere else I'm an oddball
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM


Dunno. You seem pretty normal to me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:30 PM (0sNs1)

40 Vendette! Wish you could have been there. We miss you. Hope all is well up north.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:24 PM (afFes)

*Waves*

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:31 PM (1ieqq)

41 Thanks for the Gub, Weasel. Glad to hear about another successful NoVAMoMe.

I've expressed my opinion on the best .357 Mag here before. Can't beat the S&W model 686. Mine has been one of the best purchases I have ever made. Love that gub.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 21, 2026 07:33 PM (ceJ0R)

42 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (afJtY)

43 Gotta get to the NoVa one of these years. I mean, it's a lot closer to me than TX, and I go there!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (h7ZuX)

44 The Horde is its own little Island of Misfit Toys. Everywhere else I'm an oddball, but the Horde feels like home.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM
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How many problems are in your crawl space at the moment?

Posted by: TRex - subterranian dino at June 21, 2026 07:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

45 Yeah, Dash! Get yourself here next year! Collect screaming in digital along the way, assuming she gets her crawl space in order.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 07:36 PM (afFes)

46 It was good to see everyone again (if only briefly) yesterday and today. Hope to see you all in TX! Posting for me will be slow tonight because I'm putting stuff away that I brought to the range today.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM (BCwQW)

47 Dunno. You seem pretty normal to me.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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You seem normal to me too!

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM (lOlUK)

48 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (afJtY)
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This needs to be written down somewhere!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM (GNqmQ)

49 Weasel, this came up sometime in the last two weeks, and I don't know if you'd seen this one. It's an electric automatic BB gun.

https://tinyurl.com/4dwu8nt9

I'm not sure how quiet it is, but it could be a pest control device where quiet is necessary.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (qx7Zg)

50 It was an absolutely perfect day. So many hugs and a surprise visit by Salty. Tired me out though so I ended up missing today's fun. When I took my BP this morning and it was 87/65, I thought maybe I shouldn't drive my car. I did manage to get it over 100 later so....
Weasel, you mentioned a kydex holster with a leather lining. What is the company?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (kJmSS)

51 Of course range time today was followed with by food and beverage at our own MiniMoMe. You know, where 2 or more Morons are gathered, thus is a MoMe. And a great time was had by all.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:27 PM

Yes...a great time was had!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (zC76q)

52 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:34 PM (afJtY)
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This needs to be written down somewhere!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:38 PM

It was comment #42....what more do you people want?!

Posted by: Deep Thought at June 21, 2026 07:41 PM (zC76q)

53 Vedder Holsters is offering 20% off, ending tonight.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 07:41 PM (0sNs1)

54 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (qx7Zg)
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I did see that and bookmarked to go back and review later. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:41 PM (GNqmQ)

55 Hit this video on YouTube, and thought some people here would find it interesting.

How Clay Targets Are Made | How It’s Made
https://youtu.be/iamy_3IQ_ng

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 07:43 PM (qx7Zg)

56 Your first time to a MoMe is an experience. Your second MoMe is a family reunion.
Posted by: Ben Had
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So true!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 21, 2026 07:43 PM (ZHOnm)

57 Weasel, you mentioned a kydex holster with a leather lining. What is the company?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 07:39 PM (kJmSS)
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Garrett Holsters. The model I like is the Silent Thunder.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 07:44 PM (GNqmQ)

58 SMH, you and ex ex have been my family for a long time now.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:44 PM (afJtY)

59 Ben Had,

And you, ours.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 21, 2026 07:45 PM (ZHOnm)

60

That Leisure Time video would have made a good short on the old MST3K.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 07:47 PM (Cqx++)

61 How many problems are in your crawl space at the moment?
Posted by: TRex
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I'm happy to report that as of Thursday I'm now the proud owner of shiny new snake-free ductwork. The crew accidentally disconnected the dehumidifier pump drain line on their way out, though. I discovered it shortly after they left and notified them. But I had to get under there and reconnect it myself because they weren't able to get back the same day and meanwhile, the pump was spraying water all over the crawl space. By some miracle, I did it right!

Not sure if the flooding problem is resolved. Next heavy or prolonged rain will be the test. I am hoping to spend less Leisure Time (to bring it on topic) with a shop vac in the crawl space.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (lOlUK)

62 Happy Father's Day to Big Mike and we hope Barry gives you the day off....

Posted by: Voices from the Far Side at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (X7dyz)

63 Wow, an appearance by SMH and Vendette, this is a gun thread for the books!

And it was a great event as usual, like visiting with the family you would like to have!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (hOUT3)

64 Wow, an appearance by SMH and Vendette, this is a gun thread for the books!

And it was a great event as usual, like visiting with the family you would like to have!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (hOUT3)

It isn't a NoVaMoMee without you there!

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:52 PM (1ieqq)

65 Sun still up and my bed time. At leart tomorrow daylight is like 10 seconds less.
Good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:52 PM (Ia/+0)

66 U.S. Model of 1917
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Hey! I have one of those. Have only fired it once and the empty brass got stuck. I have since had it cleaned by my local range guys but have not had a chance to try shooting it again.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:53 PM (lOlUK)

67 Greetings one and all. Hopefully I will attend a MoMe just to say "I was there."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 21, 2026 07:53 PM (/k3in)

68 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM (hOUT3)

It isn't a NoVaMoMee without you there!
Posted by: Vendette
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Truth

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 07:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

69 Wife and I arrived at a TX MOME a few years ago. We wandered into the car port. in the back there was a lot of gunfire. One table was filled with booze. We added our bottle of Colorado whiskey, then kind of meandered a bit. First person we met:

Berserker.

Met Ben Had a little bit later.

Holy cow, that was an experience. Highly recommend.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, aka Agent Frank at June 21, 2026 07:56 PM (0aYVJ)

70 I'm waiting for the t-shirt: "I went to the 2026 NoVaMoMe and all I got was a roving parking lot dust tornado."

Posted by: TRex - merch dino at June 21, 2026 07:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

71 It isn't a NoVaMoMee without you there!
Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 07:52 PM (1ieqq)


So I can count of seeing you there next year, right!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

72 Thanks Weasel. Found it.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 07:59 PM (kJmSS)

73 Spawn of lin-duh was 7 years old at her first MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 07:59 PM (afJtY)

74 Posted by: TRex - merch dino at June 21, 2026 07:57 PM (IQ6Gq)
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That was crazy!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:01 PM (GNqmQ)

75 Congrats SiD. It always feels especially righteous when you manage to figure something out one your own.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 08:01 PM (kJmSS)

76 There was some talk a month or so ago about building a deLisle carbine - the silenced .45 ACP carbine built on an SMLE No. 1 action.

They are making them new now, and they are selling the barrel and magazine kits.

The down side is that the silenced carbine is about $6,000, though the barrel kit is much cheaper

New DeLisle Carbines Coming From US Armament Manufacturing
https://tinyurl.com/4nphwen5


Centerfire Systems - Enfield 45ACP Conversion Kit w/ Bull Barrel
https://tinyurl.com/y5zmx6ds

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 08:03 PM (rbvCR)

77 So I can count of seeing you there next year, right!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 21, 2026 07:58 PM (hOUT3)

Get me through to next year first!

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 08:03 PM (1ieqq)

78 67 Greetings one and all. Hopefully I will attend a MoMe just to say "I was there."
Posted by: NR Pax


There are several regional MoMe that spring up and info is usually posted on the blog, or word of mouth! Keep you eyes open on the blog; you will never regret attending a MoMe!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:04 PM (hOUT3)

79 61 I'm happy to report that as of Thursday I'm now the proud owner of shiny new snake-free ductwork.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 07:48 PM
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What caliber do you recommend for snakes?

Posted by: TRex - just checking... dino at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

80 Get me through to next year first!
Posted by: Vendette


I propose a team effort!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

81 TRex, shot the last one with the .410

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:06 PM (afJtY)

82 What caliber do you recommend for snakes?
Posted by: TRex - just checking... dino at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

.... I didn't know they used the "caliber" system to measure cruise missiles.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 21, 2026 08:06 PM (Ot/FD)

83 Loved how someone slapped a name sticker with "FED"
on it on CBD's back (see last night's ONT).
And when I pointed out that in fairness, between his khakis , polo short & wraparound shades he looked like a Fed, he responded as only a Jersey Moron can:
"Aw, FUCK you all!!!"
Yeah, if you missed it come on out next year!

Posted by: Brother Bob at June 21, 2026 08:09 PM (tBfGm)

84 The Gun Thread has taught me a valuable lesson.

Not all cheesy old SF movies are created equal.

That Spider movie last week was… enjoyable to see the old vehicles.

Posted by: mindful webworker - spiders, man at June 21, 2026 08:14 PM (9bb3y)

85 New DeLisle Carbines Coming From US Armament Manufacturing
https://tinyurl.com/4nphwen5

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 08:03 PM (rbvCR)

I have one of the US Armament Manufacturing examples. The workmanship on the rifle is quite good. The wood is finished well (relative to WWII standards) and the butt plate is brass. The sights are adjustable out to 200 yards. The suppressor is quite effective. It really cuts down the noise, even in an indoor setting. After about 75 rounds, the sights look like they're dead on at about 25 yards. My one complaint (beyond the price) is that 1911 magazines modified to accommodate the De Lisle's unique magazine catch are cheap generic 1911 magazines. I would have preferred to start with a higher end magazine manufacturer like Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:15 PM (BCwQW)

86 How to make an AK-47 magazine.

youtu.be/0xuORoCKJZE

22 minutes of Third World industrial might.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026 08:16 PM (GjEvj)

87 Congrats SiD. It always feels especially righteous when you manage to figure something out one your own.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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It's a small win, but the way things have been going with the house/yard, I'll take it.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:16 PM (lOlUK)

88 Did I stink up the place in Corsicana last year?
It was my first one, the Momentous 10th.
Just want to know if I have been barred…
I’d like to try it again, if I haven’t been spurned…
Ben Had was the warmest one of all. Probably because she never stops. But I meant temperament-wise…
And the Grand Ambassador Weasel, was the best, most accepting for Newbs.
Did I mind my manners enough to be able to come back?

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:23 PM (3hOgI)

89 Did I mind my manners enough to be able to come back?
Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:23 PM (3hOgI)
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Ben Had always has the final say, but you have my hearty endorsement!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (ei1sX)

90 What caliber do you recommend for snakes?
Posted by: TRex
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I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)

91 No groveling.

Posted by: Zod at June 21, 2026 08:26 PM (vneJl)

92 Anyone who enjoys this blog should consider the trip to Corsicana a pilgrimage!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:28 PM (ei1sX)

93 Gunslinger, look forward to having you join us again.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:28 PM (afJtY)

94 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 08:30 PM (kpS4V)

95 Zod…
“No groveling.”

Isn’t that “kneel before” schtick really what it’s about?

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:30 PM (3hOgI)

96 Gunslinger, look forward to having you join us again.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:28 PM (afJtY)
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Gunslinger - this is a good sign.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:31 PM (ei1sX)

97 I’m taking it the same way!
Thanks Ben, and you to Weasel.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:31 PM (3hOgI)

98 I was trying to remember who made the NoVa MoMe name tags. I got mine in 2020 and I think that was the last year.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 08:32 PM (kJmSS)

99 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
***************
Perfect response!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

100 Weasel,
So glad the MoMe went well but not surprised. Every gathering of Horde members is always a pleasure.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (yTvNw)

101 Get me through to next year first!
Posted by: Vendette

I propose a team effort!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

Mutual accountability FTW!

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (1ieqq)

102 Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:31 PM (3hOgI)
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By the way, I'm enjoying the last third of a giant 6x60 Brick House Maduro Mighty Mighty!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (ei1sX)

103 Here's a thought for FSJ, Gertie, Saijo, and the other dogs (and some of the cats) of the Horde:

Squirrels are just tennis balls thrown by God.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (qx7Zg)

104 83 Loved how someone slapped a name sticker with "FED"
on it on CBD's back (see last night's ONT).
And when I pointed out that in fairness, between his khakis , polo short & wraparound shades he looked like a Fed, he responded as only a Jersey Moron can:
"Aw, FUCK you all!!!"
Yeah, if you missed it come on out next year!
Posted by: Brother Bob at June 21, 2026 08:09 PM (tBfGm)


I can't believe someone would do that!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (NlEaG)

105 Like the revised nic Hrothgar!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 the butt plate is brass. The sights are adjustable out to 200 yards. The suppressor is quite effective. It really cuts down the noise, even in an indoor setting. After about 75 rounds, the sights look like they're dead on at about 25 yards. My one complaint (beyond the price) is that 1911 magazines modified to accommodate the De Lisle's unique magazine catch are cheap generic 1911 magazines. I would have preferred to start with a higher end magazine manufacturer like Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick.
Posted by: Ed L a
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By WWII, brass was in scarce supply so buttplates on Lee Enfield WWII types were zamac or blackened steel. You won't see either of those on pre WWII rifles unless retrofitted.

Like the 1903a3, a lot of shortcuts were made during WWII for the sole remaining English firm BSA Shirley made No. 1, Mk 3's and later transitioned to No. 4 rifles. They used the dispersal scheme so a number of different subcontractors made the parts.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:35 PM (E4rtv)

107 Lunchtime doubly so.

Posted by: Just the punchline at June 21, 2026 08:35 PM (NOXbI)

108 Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (yTvNw)
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Thanks JTB. You and Mrs. JTB were missed!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:36 PM (ei1sX)

109 90 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM
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Without proper fundamentals, obviously. Can you practice ductwork snake hunting with dry fire?

Posted by: TRex - wind caller dino at June 21, 2026 08:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

110 61 I'm happy to report that as of Thursday I'm now the proud owner of shiny new snake-free ductwork.

Posted by: screaming in digital
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Snakes in the AC would not be a horror movie I would watch.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:36 PM (E4rtv)

111 No groveling.
Posted by: Zod at June 21, 2026 08:26 PM

Yo, Zod! S'up? You were missed at the MoMe.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (zC76q)

112 Ooh, nice.
CAO Brazilia for me. Perfect for the last stogie for a Sunday night.
Early bed for the following, always oppressive Monday back at work…

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (3hOgI)

113 90 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.

Posted by: screaming in digital
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Yep, but it is the thoughtful suggestion that counts I guess.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (E4rtv)

114 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
***************
Perfect response!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

Why not the Carl Spackler approach, from Caddyshack - C4 made up like snakes prey?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 08:38 PM (qx7Zg)

115 Squirrels are just tennis balls thrown by God.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 08:34 PM (qx7Zg)
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Someday remind me to tell the story of the squirrel that fell out of a tree in the backyard and landed on top of FSJ. Hilarity ensued!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:38 PM (ei1sX)

116 Like the 1903a3, a lot of shortcuts were made during WWII for the sole remaining English firm BSA Shirley made No. 1, Mk 3's and later transitioned to No. 4 rifles. They used the dispersal scheme so a number of different subcontractors made the parts.
Posted by: whig
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And to add to that, for No. 1. Mk 3, I suspect Australian used steel, dunno about Ishapore as India had a pretty active brass industry. I have an Aussie Lithgow downstairs but it is hardly original.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:39 PM (E4rtv)

117 There is a thing called snakeshot you know.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:39 PM (NlEaG)

118 Thanks to bluebell and Weasel for organizing the MoMeet. All the attendees made it special. I enjoyed hearig the tales. One attendee and I were north of Libya at the same time in 1986. I was part of the USS America battlegroup, and he was in the USS Coral Sea battlegroup. Small world.

I plan to tell my friends back home that I got to talk with Bunny.
It was good to see familiar faces like Hrothgar, Sharon (willow's apprentice), Bulg and new ones such as Buck, who had some great stories. I could list everyone, but only Google and bluebell have the complete list.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 08:40 PM (whRlH)

119 Oh and hello gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:40 PM (NlEaG)

120 Ya gotta be careful in that ductwork, pal.

Posted by: John McClane at June 21, 2026 08:41 PM (NOXbI)

121 I've got one of those CO2 powered bb machine guns. You could shoot that in your ducts and it would make a heck of a noise and probably no holes.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2026 08:42 PM (vFG9F)

122 Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (3hOgI)
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Unfortunately it's now at the sad point of letting it die or trying to get one or two more puffs.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:43 PM (ei1sX)

123 Thanks for including the videos on the model 1917. Those old bolt action 30-06 battle rifles are wonderfully versatile. Unless the barrel is shot out they are good enough for casual target shooting and most hunting. With cast bullet hand loads they can serve as a squirrel rifle or a gallery gun. And those rear sights are plenty accurate once dialed in for the specific load.

The demonstration on greasing the bolt was helpful and applies to any of the bolt action battle rifles.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:44 PM (yTvNw)

124 Headed to Florida end of this week.

On board the vehicle will be some things that will no longer be legal in VA when I come back.

VCI bags came in from Amazon today.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 21, 2026 08:45 PM (NlEaG)

125 Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 08:44 PM (yTvNw)
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The CMP did an outstanding job of rebarreling the one in the video.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:45 PM (ei1sX)

126 Unfortunately it's now at the sad point of letting it die or trying to get one or two more puffs.
Posted by: Weasel

Oh, that is sad. About as sad as being reduced to a little cigarillo because it's too hot to be out longer than that.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:46 PM (ftFVW)

127 She Hobbit, wish BruceWayne Happy Birthday from me and a hug to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 08:48 PM (afJtY)

128 Hey! I have one of those. Have only fired it once and the empty brass got stuck. I have since had it cleaned by my local range guys but have not had a chance to try shooting it again.
Posted by: screaming in digital
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Some of those old WWI chambers can be generous and the US Army did not store 1917 rifles in the best of ways so they had some issues reissuing them in WWII to the extent that they put in a order for new barrels as barrels and chambers on some rifles corroded in storage between the wars. WWII barrels were made by Johnson Automatics and by High Standard--the greenish gray parkerizing is also in use. The original parkerizing in WWI used a bit different ingredients so you got a blackish parkerizing. IRRC, manganese (dark gray to blackish) in WWI, and zinc (light gray to grayish green) in WWII, probably because manganese was better employed in alloy steels rather than outsides of rifles.

And some are just dirty.



Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (E4rtv)

129 And to add to that, for No. 1. Mk 3, I suspect Australian used steel, dunno about Ishapore as India had a pretty active brass industry. I have an Aussie Lithgow downstairs but it is hardly original.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:39 PM (E4rtv)

Perhaps my DeLisle reproduction started out as an Ishapore product?

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (BCwQW)

130 Without proper fundamentals, obviously. Can you practice ductwork snake hunting with dry fire?
Posted by: TRex
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Hm. I had lost my motivation to shoot but a snake target might get me back to the range.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (lOlUK)

131 And big hugs to you, Ben Had! I'll pass the word along.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (ftFVW)

132 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 08:50 PM (2YhKe)

133 MoMes are the shizznit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 08:51 PM (2YhKe)

134 MoMes are the shizznit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Word.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:52 PM (ftFVW)

135 123 Thanks for including the videos on the model 1917. Those old bolt action 30-06 battle rifles are wonderfully versatile. Unless the barrel is shot out they are good enough for casual target shooting and most hunting. With cast bullet hand loads they can serve as a squirrel rifle or a gallery gun. And those rear sights are plenty accurate once dialed in for the specific load.
Posted by: JTB
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The heaviness of the rifle offsets the recoil--in full battle rattle, they weigh heavier than springfield 1903s.

The 1917 action and their P14 predecessors were altered post war into magnums by several custom gunshops because of strength. Not really true for the WWI era 1903's. The 1903a3s were built of modern steel but conversions were relatively scarce for those.

The P14 better fits the 300 Win Mag due to the differences in magazine length (shorter for the P14). The 1917 often was converted into a 300 Norma Magnum. Good round that never really caught on.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)

136 Just got home from the MoMe. Had a great time.

Thank you Grateful and T-rex for everything.

Had a great time shooting some of Ed L's toys.

Thank you Ed!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 21, 2026 08:54 PM (OF02a)

137 IIRC, the 1917 "Enfield" introduced the rear peep sight and front post sight (with protective "barleycorn ear" protectors on each side. This type of sight would remain in use on successive US service rifles (M1, M1 Carbine, M14, M16, M4) well into the 21st century. Even the modern M4A1/M16A4 "flat top" rifles with optics still used backup irons with the same type of sights well into the 2010s during Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

138 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (zC76q)

139 I was trying to remember who made the NoVa MoMe name tags. I got mine in 2020 and I think that was the last year.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 21, 2026 08:32 PM (kJmSS)
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Muad'dib. He was so generous to do all that for us, and more. Great guy.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (afFes)

140 You're very welcome, Scuba Dude!

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (BCwQW)

141 101 Get me through to next year first!
Posted by: Vendette

I propose a team effort!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

Mutual accountability FTW!
Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (1ieqq)


Let's not get carried away here!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM (hOUT3)

142 Weasel at June 21, 2026 08:43 PM (ei1sX)

“Unfortunately it's now at the sad point of letting it die or trying to get one or two more puffs.”

Torch lighter!
But if the wrapper is starting to unravel, time to tap out.

I have waayyy too many shirts, with micro-holes in the front. Best to call it done. And have your shirt live another presentable-in-public day.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM (3hOgI)

143 Perhaps my DeLisle reproduction started out as an Ishapore product?
Posted by: Ed L

I'll bet they put a brass one on because it is prettier. The steel ones look pretty much WWII minimum specs of ugly but enough to get through the war quality. Post war, it simply was often whatever the armorer had in stock when one was refitted. FTR'ed in their lingo.

Brits saved the quality for where it counted in rifles but not the finish on rifle furniture on WWII products or later WWI ones for that matter. The No. 1 Mk 3* came about in 1916 after the Battle of the Somme created an enormous demand for rifles.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM (E4rtv)

144 Glad you came and are now home safe Scoob....I would have said "safe and sound" but I know that would only prompt a response from RMBS....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

145 And some are just dirty.

Posted by: whig
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Jesse had copious notes on this rifle. On the back of one of the pages, he wrote about shooting 50 rounds on some date in 2020. I think that note goes with this rifle, but I'm not sure. I don't recall him telling me about shooting this rifle, but he had many rifles. I still don't know some of what I have without checking his notes. I do remember that this particular rifle had changed hands between him and one of his buddies a couple different times. His buddy offered to buy it from me shortly after J died. At the time I would have agreed, but have since changed my mind about selling. And I haven't heard from this guy in ages so maybe he forgot!

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:59 PM (lOlUK)

146 Oh, that is sad. About as sad as being reduced to a little cigarillo because it's too hot to be out longer than that.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 08:46 PM (ftFVW)
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Looking forward to October and chatting over a cigar with you!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:00 PM (ei1sX)

147 137 IIRC, the 1917 "Enfield" introduced the rear peep sight and front post sight (with protective "barleycorn ear" protectors on each side. This type of sight would remain in use on successive US service rifles (M1, M1 Carbine, M14, M16, M4) well into the 21st century. Even the modern M4A1/M16A4 "flat top" rifles with optics still used backup irons with the same type of sights well into the 2010s during Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: Ed L

Occasionally you will see a parts rifle with the proper sights switched as you can put a P14 sight and front sight blades on a 1917 but not vice versa because the P14 sight bed is not long enough as the receivers had to be lengthened for the 30-06 cartridge. Front sight blades, it doesn't matter much as the P14/1917 will even take some Lee Enfield front sight blades with some effort.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv)

148 Thank you to all of you that come to the TXMOME and made it so special. You have given me such wonderful memories .

As with Sponge, I remember your firsts.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 09:00 PM (afJtY)

149 SPONGE!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:55 PM (zC76q)

≈=========


*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:01 PM (2YhKe)

150 Good evening. Range was visited, twice. Once to confirm ammunition batch and once to shoot a 1,000 yard match. The 135 grain A tip bullets proved to be loaded to acceptable standards the day before the match.

I'm pretty sure my fundamentals were good.

So, my plan was, going into the match, take two rifles. One optimized for 6.5 mm 135 grain A tip bullets and the other optimized for 6.5 mm 153 grain A tips.

My thinking was, due to the way the wind kicks up around here, I would move to the heavier bullets with the better bc if we saw significant wind. The fly in the ointment: The 153 grain loads might be a little sketchy from a consistency standpoint.

Day of the match I got caught right in the middle: Breezy enough to question using the lighter bullet but not so breezy I wanted to risk using loads I wasn't all that confident in.

In the end, I went with the lighter bullets traveling a little faster and decided to trust my wind reading skills. I ended up in a 3 way tie for second place with a 96 but ultimately 4th as I only had two in the X ring. But, I did catch the wind shift and increase and beat several of our more experienced shoots.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:02 PM (UJMvS)

151 As with Sponge, I remember your firsts.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 09:00

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To be fair, you made me do it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:02 PM (2YhKe)

152 Hm. I had lost my motivation to shoot but a snake target might get me back to the range.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (lOlUK)
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Hey!

Posted by: Snake Plisskin at June 21, 2026 09:03 PM (UJMvS)

153 Looking forward to October and chatting over a cigar with you!
Posted by: Weasel

Yay, me too! Probably should start the planning now that the big family summer trip is behind me.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 21, 2026 09:03 PM (ftFVW)

154 Perhaps my DeLisle reproduction started out as an Ishapore product?
Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 08:49 PM (BCwQW)


You can check the cartouche on the right side, unless that was ground off.

The MOD were not using No 4 SMLE actions, they were using No.1 actions, often ones with shot out barrels so they had a use for good actions that needed new barrels.
I expect there is some notes somewhere that details whether or not the brass SMLE No.1 butt plates were to be removed or not. The buttstock was basically standard. Probably Forgotten Weapons.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 09:04 PM (rbvCR)

155 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:02 PM (UJMvS)
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Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:04 PM (ei1sX)

156 Glad you came and are now home safe Scoob....I would have said "safe and sound" but I know that would only prompt a response from RMBS....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:58 PM

*looks around innocently*

*says nothing*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:06 PM (zC76q)

157 So, my plan was, going into the match, take two rifles. One optimized for 6.5 mm 135 grain A tip bullets and the other optimized for 6.5 mm 153 grain A tips.
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I understand that bullet weight can make a difference but what settings do you optimize on a rifle for different bullet weights? Just MOA because of the difference in trajectory?

BTW, thanks Weasel for the video in the content on grains.

Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

158 Jesse had copious notes on this rifle.
Posted by: screaming in digital

The value on those keeps escalating. They really are a magnificent rifle with one fault, the mag ejection spring is prone to breaking. And btw, when it does, the rifle's bolt will not extract brass from the chamber sometime or eject it depending on how broken it is.

Which now that I think about it, you might want to check that spring.
You don't have to take the rifle apart, just remove the bolt, look on the left side inside the back of the receiver for the rifle, and you should see the tip of the ejector spring. It is held in place by a small screw going from the top to the bottom and the spring pivots on that screw to eject spent shells.

https://tinyurl.com/Blog-with-pictures-of-spring

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (E4rtv)

159 Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Change the bullet weight and everything about the load changes, particularly velocity and bullet jump.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:08 PM (ei1sX)

160 Here, Ed L

The British ARES write up on the deLisle, with the video by Forgotten Arms

https://tinyurl.com/mrywdh7z

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 09:08 PM (rbvCR)

161 Probably Forgotten Weapons.
Posted by: Kindltot
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It is in Skelton's book on the Lee Enfield as are a lot of details about it.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (E4rtv)

162 You can check the cartouche on the right side, unless that was ground off.

The MOD were not using No 4 SMLE actions, they were using No.1 actions, often ones with shot out barrels so they had a use for good actions that needed new barrels.
I expect there is some notes somewhere that details whether or not the brass SMLE No.1 butt plates were to be removed or not. The buttstock was basically standard. Probably Forgotten Weapons.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 09:04 PM (rbvCR)

US Armament Manufacturing put on all new wood stocks, so no original markings on the wood remain.

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (BCwQW)

163 Signing off to get some sleep before the drive home tomorrow.

Thanks again for a great NoVaMoMe and a great Gun Thread!

Looking forward to seeing all of you amazing people in Corsicana!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (zC76q)

164 Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Elevation adjustment will change as will the ability of the projectile to resist wind offset.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (ei1sX)

165 Stopping by the gun thread just to mention that - for the first time in about a year and a half, I got some trigger time at the club.

Put about 90 rounds through my P320C and only about 60 rounds through the MCX Rattler.

Groupings were poor to start out with on the pistol but quickly improved as I reacquainted myself with my firearm that I hadn't shot in months.

Started out low and to the left like all right handed shooters naturally do I think.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2026 09:10 PM (CNp5O)

166 I understand that bullet weight can make a difference but what settings do you optimize on a rifle for different bullet weights? Just MOA because of the difference in trajectory?

BTW, thanks Weasel for the video in the content on grains.
Posted by: TRex

Makes a difference in the arc of the bullet trajectory and sometimes wind can be a factor at longer range. So you zero your scope differently for each. If you have to use the same rifle for both, most people mark their scope rather than rezeroing each time. Fine enough for hunters but if you are in a shooting competition, zero the rifle each time you switch ammo in the location you are shooting--altitude, humidity, and a bunch of other factors come into play at long range shooting comps. Weasel is your guy for that.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:11 PM (E4rtv)

167 Night RMBS....I'm signing off too as tomorrow is a work day....'til Corsicana!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

168 I understand that bullet weight can make a difference but what settings do you optimize on a rifle for different bullet weights? Just MOA because of the difference in trajectory?

BTW, thanks Weasel for the video in the content on grains.
Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I shoot a 6.5-06. The barrel on one of my rifles is a 28" Heavy Palma contour. The distance to the lands is short so I use a smaller bullet, the 135 gain A tip.

My other 6.5-06 has a 26" Heavy Varmint profile barrel on it, with more freebore, which allows me to seat the bullet further out without the bullet jamming into the rifling lands.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (UJMvS)

169 Posted by: Defenestratus at June 21, 2026 09:10 PM (CNp5O)
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Low/left from a right hand shooter typically results from anticipating recoil. Don't do that!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (ei1sX)

170 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread folks!

Any advice on getting a Browning Auto-5 12 ga. unjammed? a 1949 model made by FN. I was able to partly field-strip it, and got a spent shell ejected from the chamber when I removed the barrel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM (1z8ji)

171 164 Posted by: TRex - optimized dino at June 21, 2026 09:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Elevation adjustment will change as will the ability of the projectile to resist wind offset.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM
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So you might optimize things on a rifle like barrel twist?

You might have two rifles and zero each one separately rather than taking one rifle and trying to make changes at the range?

Posted by: TRex - twisted dino at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

172 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:09 PM (zC76q)
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Safe trip home, amigo. Always a pleasure to see you and mom!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM (ei1sX)

173 Low/left from a right hand shooter typically results from anticipating recoil. Don't do that!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:12 PM

*makes note not to do that*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM (zC76q)

174 Safe trip home, amigo. Always a pleasure to see you and mom!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:14 PM

Likewise, Weasel. See y'all in TX!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (zC76q)

175 Weasel, I'm going to sign off because I'm a bit tired from this weekend's activities and I have an early wake up tomorrow morning. Thanks for hosting!

Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (BCwQW)

176 I realize I may not have answered your question, TRex. Rule of thumb is, the neck/should junction of the case should line up with the shoulder on a boat tail bullet. Seating beyond that point can adversely affect accuracy.

The freebore difference between the two rifles dictates seating depth.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (UJMvS)

177 OK, 9:16 thank you time.

Thank you!

Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday. A special thanks to everyone who joined us on Saturday!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:16 PM (ei1sX)

178 Took my son shooting Saturday in the Coastal Range west of Portland. We had a great time.

Just curious, has there ever been a Pacific Northwest MoMe?

Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (rcENI)

179 Any advice on getting a Browning Auto-5 12 ga. unjammed? a 1949 model made by FN. I was able to partly field-strip it, and got a spent shell ejected from the chamber when I removed the barrel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Those are Swiss watch precision fitting on the A5. Check Numrich for a schematic but sometimes the problem is someone did not adjust the friction rings when shooting a different shotgun load and that affects the extraction. Most people casually shooting pop or grandpop's Auto 5 never read the manual and assume that it will handle all different shotgun loads without adjustment. It won't function sometimes if changing from light to heavy or heavy to light.

Apart from oiling it, I will use a dummy round and check for firing and extraction.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (E4rtv)

180 Have a good one, Weasel! By the way, finding those extra 4 points to shoot a 100 is going to be tough!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (UJMvS)

181 I'm only a simple librarian but I'm pretty sure it would have been a bad idea to fire a gun of any caliber into one of my vents.
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 21, 2026 08:25 PM (lOlUK)
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So, flamethrower?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
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Perfect response!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 21, 2026 08:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

Since she's left, TRex, is this a sign of what you're getting for Christmas?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (qx7Zg)

182 Posted by: Ed L at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM (BCwQW)
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Thanks again Ed L, and THANK YOU for the wonderful gift. I will feature it in an upcoming Gun Thread, soon!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (ei1sX)

183 guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (xcxpd)

184 Take Auto 5's apart as a last resort and if you are in there, replace all the springs and worn parts. I have a pre War with a suicide safety (trigger guard) and it is a beast, but you have to set the friction rings right.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

185 175 Weasel, I'm going to sign off because I'm a bit tired from this weekend's activities and I have an early wake up tomorrow morning. Thanks for hosting!
Posted by: Ed L
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Ed L, you are a top notch and knowledgeable collector of exquisite firearms and hope to meet you someday if I ever get to travel much to a MoMeet.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:19 PM (E4rtv)

186 Did get to the range yesterday, just normal proficiency drills: Dot Torture with Bubba Fly my G17 and some one handed drills with my G44.

Holes made in paper, a good day was had.

In other news, I'm continuing to inch closer to getting rid of the vast majority of my firearms. With a few sentimental exceptions, I'm probably going to get rid of all my .45's, .44's, 38's and every other caliber that isn't 9mm, .22lr or 5.56. And maybe 12 gauge.
That's a lot of tools. Just need to figure out how best to get $ for it without me listing stuff on Gunbroker because...being serious, I'm not doing that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:20 PM (xcxpd)

187 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (UJMvS)
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I have the utmost confidence in you.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:20 PM (ei1sX)

188 Just curious, has there ever been a Pacific Northwest MoMe?
Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM


Ask MAE. I have heard rumors.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:20 PM (2YhKe)

189 183 guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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How's your Glock shooting going.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)

190 178 Took my son shooting Saturday in the Coastal Range west of Portland. We had a great time.

Just curious, has there ever been a Pacific Northwest MoMe?
Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:17 PM (rcENI)

jah, most years. This year I was on vacation and nobody else felt like organizing it. Typically happens in May.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (xcxpd)

191 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:15 PM
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Thanks Blake. Need to apply my small brain and digest further, but your explanation is helpful.

Posted by: TRex - partially seated dino at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

192 189 183 guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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How's your Glock shooting going.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:21 PM (E4rtv)

honestly, really solid. I had a few low-right strings on dot torture yesterday but I'm happy with what's happening. I have other guns I love but I shoot Glocks well and I have hi-cap mags for them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:23 PM (xcxpd)

193 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:19 PM (E4rtv)
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I hope it works out someday. It would be a pleasure to meet you!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:24 PM (ei1sX)

194 Thanks Blake. Need to apply my small brain and digest further, but your explanation is helpful.
Posted by: TRex - partially seated dino at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Well, a wise Weasel once warned madness lay along the road to shooting long range matches. Did I listen? Nooooo....

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:25 PM (UJMvS)

195 You might have two rifles and zero each one separately rather than taking one rifle and trying to make changes at the range?
Posted by: TRex
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Easier if competing with it. Not really needed for minute of elk etc. The long range competition shooters are just getting warmed up by the time it is well past what most hunters would consider a humane kill range.

I never shot much long range even when I did shoot back a ways. Most of my rifles are battered old shooter grade military bolt actions and you get minute of man accuracy unless you tune them specifically for competition (which in turn negatively affects their collector's value and some alterations like glass bedding, etc. are not allowed anyway). So 3-5 MOA is usual with open sights and range ammo fodder and a bit less with peep sights on a good day at 100-200 yards==maybe 2.5-4 on something like an Lee Enfield No. 4 with Singer peep iron sights.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:25 PM (E4rtv)

196 Tardy Sunday evening greetings, gub 'ettes and 'rons. Sounds like NoVAMoMe was a fine time and I'm sorry to have missed it -- but I'm locked in for Corsicana!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:27 PM (xVpNO)

197 Let's not get carried away here!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at June 21, 2026 08:57 PM


Concur.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at June 21, 2026 09:27 PM (0sNs1)

198 111 No groveling.
Posted by: Zod at June 21, 2026 08:26 PM

Yo, Zod! S'up? You were missed at the MoMe.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 08:37 PM (zC76q)

And most threads

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:28 PM (xcxpd)

199 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:27 PM (xVpNO)
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Howdy, bud!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:29 PM (ei1sX)

200 200!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:29 PM (xVpNO)

201 I found the complete lack of range babes in the 1917 video interesting, given the close proximity to the WAHFUAUVA.

Was Weasel experimenting with rice in his rear bag?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 09:30 PM (0sNs1)

202 Amusing side note: The base rifle I shot yesterday has an MSRP of under $1,000. I've done some minor upgrades, bolt lift kit, replaced the barrel because I wore out the original, trigger kit, etc. But, anyone who tells you you need to spend a fortune on a custom gun to get started shooting long range, well, no, not really. However, we won't discuss the cost of reloading gear. Sure, reloading your own saves you money...until you realize you shoot more.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:30 PM (UJMvS)

203 Howdy, bud!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:29 PM (ei1sX)


Weasel, sir.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (xVpNO)

204 Finishing my Flor de Oliva as the gun thread slows down. No shooting activities this week.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (hWzgv)

205 I hope it works out someday. It would be a pleasure to meet you!
Posted by: Weasel

It will take a year from my surgery in last Feb that I will know for sure as far as resuming any shooting longarms apart from rimfire or 223 in August at teh sixth month mark.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (E4rtv)

206 Watching the "old" movie, The Jackal, with Bruce Willis and Richard Gere. He tests out his big weapon somewhere in Canada, far enough away from people that a full-auto cannon won't be heard, as well as the explosion of a car.

And he fires it off sitting not 5 feet away, without hearing protection. The only nod to "it should be really loud" is he squiggles his ear with a finger afterwards. And it's the ear furthest away from the weapon. Mhmmmmm....

Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (kU0PQ)

207 If you want range babes, look up Taran Tactical on youtube and watch the videos when various actors are training with him.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:32 PM (UJMvS)

208 And it's the ear furthest away from the weapon. Mhmmmmm....
Posted by: GWB at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM


Maybe he was temporarily deaf in the ear closest to the weapon?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 09:33 PM (0sNs1)

209 Upon further reflection, I probably wouldn't have been very spritely at NoVAMoMe even if I'd made plans to attend. Some virus has been dragging down my family's energy pretty badly all week long.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 21, 2026 09:34 PM (xVpNO)

210 Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 09:30 PM (0sNs1)
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I couldn't remember when I included that for tonight if it was the "fourth shot" video of shame.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:35 PM (ei1sX)

211 202 Amusing side note: The base rifle I shot yesterday has an MSRP of under $1,000. I've done some minor upgrades, bolt lift kit, replaced the barrel because I wore out the original, trigger kit, etc. But, anyone who tells you you need to spend a fortune on a custom gun to get started shooting long range, well, no, not really. However, we won't discuss the cost of reloading gear. Sure, reloading your own saves you money...until you realize you shoot more.
Posted by: Blake

Software beats hardware on the range, but as you said, money spent on hi end reloading gear, premium brass, etc. can go well beyond a rifle.

Not for me, I'm afraid as I don't think I will probably ever be shooting hard recoiling rifles and shotguns again. We will see at the one year mark after my back surgery. I am probably downsizing my collection of old milsurps soon and selling off the reloading equipment for those weirdo military rounds while keeping a few for sentimental reasons or due to appreciating prices.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:36 PM (E4rtv)

212 Take Auto 5's apart as a last resort and if you are in there, replace all the springs and worn parts. I have a pre War with a suicide safety (trigger guard) and it is a beast, but you have to set the friction rings right.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

Yeah. This one has the suicide safety, which won't move at all right now. My game plan: Remove the stock, wash out the receiver and action with brake cleaner, blow out with compressed air, oil lightly with suitable oil, and reassemble. Buddy who owns it was shooting gophers with target loads, and it failed to eject. This gun is pretty beat up, and has had a hard life, I expect.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:36 PM (1z8ji)

213 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (E4rtv)
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Shooting is optional! Coming to visit is just fine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:37 PM (ei1sX)

214 Thank you Horde and thank you Weasel!

I learned stuff and have more questions than I started with. May your collective crawl spaces be clear of problems.

Posted by: TRex - unkestrelized dino at June 21, 2026 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

215 Finishing my Flor de Oliva as the gun thread slows down. No shooting activities this week.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:31 PM (hWzgv)
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Nice. I found some of those in deep storage the other day and have a couple on deck for this week.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:39 PM (ei1sX)

216 I learned stuff and have more questions than I started with. May your collective crawl spaces be clear of problems.
Posted by: TRex - unkestrelized dino at June 21, 2026 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
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You have my contact info!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (ei1sX)

217 Mikhail Kalashnikov, inventor of the AK-47.

In January 2014, a letter that Kalashnikov wrote six months before his death to the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, was published by the Russian daily newspaper Izvestia. In the letter, he stated that he was suffering "spiritual pain" about whether he was responsible for the deaths caused by the weapons he created. Translated from the published letter he states, "I keep having the same unsolved question: if my rifle claimed people's lives, then can it be that I... a Christian and an Orthodox believer, was to blame for their deaths?"

The patriarch wrote back, thanked Kalashnikov, and said that he "was an example of patriotism and a correct attitude toward the country". Kirill added about the design responsibility for the deaths by the rifle, "the church has a well-defined position when the weapon is defense of the Motherland, the Church supports its creators and the military, which use it."

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I agree with the patriarch. A weapon is a tool. The designer isn't responsible for misuse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (ndZc7)

218 honestly, really solid. I had a few low-right strings on dot torture yesterday but I'm happy with what's happening. I have other guns I love but I shoot Glocks well and I have hi-cap mags for them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

And the mags will be available for a long time at a reasonable price. That is what is problematic for a number of people, these rapidly changing models mean that magazines aren't available for boutique brands for long at a cheap price. They are using magazines as a driver of profits from a lot of handgun mfgs. Glock and Springfield XD are the exception but the newer Springfields seem to following S&W, Beretta, or other mfg pricing.

Bersas in particular can be ridiculous, you get the pistol cheap and then pay out the wazoo for mags. $299 firearm with a $50 per mag.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

219 Open thread in the time remaining for Doof jokes.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:41 PM (ei1sX)

220 Actually have what might be a dumb question for you Weasel. Noticed in your 1917 video that your front bag setup is pretty high, two bags stacked up. Seems like that would cause the dreaded wobbly shit, but seems to work for you. Is that to get you up higher in a more comfortable shooting position?

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:44 PM (rmzEU)

221 It's quiet here. Too quiet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:44 PM (ndZc7)

222 Yeah. This one has the suicide safety, which won't move at all right now. My game plan: Remove the stock, wash out the receiver and action with brake cleaner, blow out with compressed air, oil lightly with suitable oil, and reassemble. Buddy who owns it was shooting gophers with target loads, and it failed to eject. This gun is pretty beat up, and has had a hard life, I expect.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Start with the friction rings, you can find Auto 5 manuals online. My guess is the friction rings are buggered and perhaps congealed old grease.

I would use sewing machine oil for lube or the old 3-1. The tolerances are fine on the parts of them in those shotguns and they used really light oils back in the day for lube as they lubed field guns and cleaned them each day they used them.

And be careful with the brake cleaner, use the non chlorinated stuff as that can affect the rather thin bluing on those Auto 5s. Odorless mineral spirits would do as well (which is often what the non chlorinated stuff is anyway). And the rest you know, light grease on sliding surfaces, oil around pivot points.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (E4rtv)

223 Have a good one, weasel! Thanks for the thread.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (UJMvS)

224 And the mags will be available for a long time at a reasonable price. That is what is problematic for a number of people, these rapidly changing models mean that magazines aren't available for boutique brands for long at a cheap price. They are using magazines as a driver of profits from a lot of handgun mfgs. Glock and Springfield XD are the exception but the newer Springfields seem to following S&W, Beretta, or other mfg pricing.

Bersas in particular can be ridiculous, you get the pistol cheap and then pay out the wazoo for mags. $299 firearm with a $50 per mag.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

WA state's ammo restrictions really killed my interest in buying new tools. Luckily I stocked up on a variety of mags for my EDC options. Still...it's a barrier and started me on this trajectory.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (xcxpd)

225 Shooting is optional! Coming to visit is just fine.
Posted by: Weasel
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What you are saying is that you need a target I guess (LOL). I warn you, I can't run fast so not much of a challenge in leading shots.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:47 PM (E4rtv)

226 Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:44 PM (rmzEU)
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Excellent observation! The short answer is yes, I need the extra height due to my using a higher rear bag. I sort of just grabbed what I had available at the farm that day. That setup is much less than ideal, but worked out ok for video exhibition purposes.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:48 PM (ei1sX)

227 And be careful with the brake cleaner, use the non chlorinated stuff as that can affect the rather thin bluing on those Auto 5s. Odorless mineral spirits would do as well (which is often what the non chlorinated stuff is anyway). And the rest you know, light grease on sliding surfaces, oil around pivot points.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:45 PM (E4rtv)

The brake cleaner I have is the non-chlorinated kind. I'm sure I have some real light oil here, but maybe a spray can of some sort of light gun oil would be better?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:48 PM (1z8ji)

228 Nite Blake!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:49 PM (ei1sX)

229 WA state's ammo restrictions really killed my interest in buying new tools. Luckily I stocked up on a variety of mags for my EDC options. Still...it's a barrier and started me on this trajectory.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Simplicity has a virtue of its own. I have too many to shoot and maintain much anymore and for the same reason, looking to trim down the collection to manageable size.

Weasel, if you are still interested in original content, I am about to pull old milsurp bolt action rifles out, clean them, and prepare them for sale which means pictures, etc. I'll try to send you some pix and a brief writeup on some of them.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:49 PM (E4rtv)

230
Open thread in the time remaining for Doof jokes.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:41 PM (ei1sX)

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So I can say what I want? Well, let me tell you something, pal!....

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:50 PM (O0L8i)

231 Doof is a joke?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 09:50 PM (2YhKe)

232 Good night all. As Hrothgar says, Corsicana in October.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:51 PM (LHPAg)

233 The brake cleaner I have is the non-chlorinated kind. I'm sure I have some real light oil here, but maybe a spray can of some sort of light gun oil would be better?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Rem oil is cheap and quite good. Sewing machine or clock oil is very good. I tend to use lubriplate for the grease on rifles as it is non toxic and I have a garand and m1 carbine.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:51 PM (E4rtv)

234 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:49 PM (E4rtv)
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Sounds great! Thanks. To all of you who have sent me stuff, I swear I will get to it eventually. I'm a little bit of a lazy-bones lately and typically leave writing the thread until Sunday afternoon. I need to get better about that!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:51 PM (ei1sX)

235 I had to at least SEE "The Astounding She-Monster!", so I skipped around a bit. Looks like quite the film....sometimes she walks slowly away from people as dramatic music plays, and sometimes she walks slowly towards them. Certainly cute, and that outfit shows some curves, but the 50s "punch sbooting" style doesn't seem very effective...it didn't slow "The Astounding She-Monster!" down at all!!!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 21, 2026 09:52 PM (ycI94)

236 Excellent observation! The short answer is yes, I need the extra height due to my using a higher rear bag. I sort of just grabbed what I had available at the farm that day. That setup is much less than ideal, but worked out ok for video exhibition purposes.
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:48 PM (ei1sX)

Thanks Weasel. I’d actually like a little higher rear bag as sometimes I have issues at my range getting the rear of the gun high enough to get on target. Was going to make a couple wood or cardboard shims to go under my current rear bag. Do you happen to remember the maker and model of rear bag you were using?

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:52 PM (rmzEU)

237 That setup is much less than ideal, but worked out ok for video exhibition purposes.
Posted by: Weasel

Uh oh, you will find it hard to live down now. You should have pulled the inscrutable Weasel Fu--

"Grasshopper, when you can catch a fly in the hand, then you can learn the secrets of my shooting bags" or some such.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)

238 Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 21, 2026 09:52 PM (rmzEU)
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100% I do. Protektor Shooting Bags in PA. Just search for Protektor and you'll find them. Very very very very highly recommended. Great people and products. If you don't see what you want online, just call them. Great folks!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:56 PM (8gM3l)

239 190 jah, most years. This year I was on vacation and nobody else felt like organizing it. Typically happens in May.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 09:22 PM (xcxpd)

Oh, I'll watch for it next year! I have a database conference I attend every May, but hopefully I can make it.

How big of a crowd is it? If you want someone else to do it next year, I have a cabin on Mt Hood I could offer. I'm mostly just a lurker, but I've been reading off and on for many years.

Posted by: frammish at June 21, 2026 09:56 PM (rcENI)

240 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)
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I have again shamed my ancestors!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 09:58 PM (ei1sX)

241 Uh oh. I may have angered Doof.

Doof? Doooooof? Doofus? Doofey?

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:04 PM (ei1sX)

242 Augh!

Posted by: the hampsters at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (VHUov)

243 Buddy who owns it was shooting gophers with target loads, and it failed to eject. This gun is pretty beat up, and has had a hard life, I expect.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 09:36 PM (1z8ji)

Check the brass friction rings around the magazine tube. There is a configuration for heavy recouping loads, and a different one for light loads.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (bhZyo)

244 Weasel! What did you do to Doof?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (OoFl2)

245 240 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)
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I have again shamed my ancestors!
Posted by: Weasel

Seppuku is not allowed. We would have to run the Gun Thread and then the caliber wars would flare anew 45 v 9 30-06-308, madness lies that way.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 10:06 PM (E4rtv)

246 Weasel! What did you do to Doof?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:05 PM (OoFl2)
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I fear I have tormented him with ridicule!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:06 PM (ei1sX)

247 I miss Doof.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (2YhKe)

248 ONT is Up!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (qx7Zg)

249 Well…it was a wonderful ONT, folks. Take my word for it!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 10:07 PM (OoFl2)

250 Schwoo! Nite everybody!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 10:09 PM (ei1sX)

Food Thread: Fish Eggs, Fish Eggs, Roly-Poly Fish Eggs!

Bottarga26.jpg

Ooh! That looks good! Except it is an odd dish that many people will carefully step around on the way to more conventional pasta dishes. Spaghetti alla Bottarga is a deceptively simple dish made of fish eggs, oil, and garlic...essentially Aglio e Olio with caviar! Except the Italian version of caviar is, A. much less expensive, and 2. made from the whole egg sac of Mullet, then salted and dried.

Yeah, it sounds a bit weird, but it is delicious, and a dish that I will order every time I see it, which is, sadly, very infrequently. I guess I should head to Sardinia, where it is a famous and popular dish, but that's a bit much for one plate of pasta, even for a glutton like me!

The base recipe can be used with pretty much any seafood, although I would stick to briny flavors like vongole (clams) or even anchovies! I think the pasta should be cooked in less water so the starchy water used to thicken the dish is as powerful as possible. And do not skimp on the garlic! But I shouldn't have to tell you that!

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65 Organizations Petition FDA to End Routine Preventive Antibiotic Use in Food Animals
A coalition of 65 health, consumer, environmental, farming, and animal welfare organizations has filed a citizen petition urging the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to withdraw approvals for the routine use of medically important antibiotics for disease prevention in food-producing animals.

The petition argues that administering antibiotics through feed and water to livestock and poultry that are not diagnosed with disease contributes to the development and spread of antimicrobial resistance (AMR). The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that AMR is associated with approximately 35,000 deaths and 2.8 million illnesses annually in the U.S alone.


I have no particular resistance (Hah! See what I did?) to decreasing antibiotic use in agriculture. Antibiotic Resistance is a huge problem that isn't getting any better, so we should certainly address overuse.

But that coalition of 65 organizations makes me deeply suspicious, especially the "environmental" and "Animal Welfare" organizations. They tend to be lunatics with political agendas, so let us tread lightly!

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'Cooking Oil Thieves' caught on camera in Fenwick Island
"They ride around with two large hundred gallon tanks inside their vehicles. Then they hook up to the tanks and are out of there in three to five minutes," Robert Quirk with the Fenwick Island police department told WBOC.

As opposed to "two small hundred gallon tanks?"

Well, it's Delaware, and they elected Joe Biden, so the assumption that everyone who lives there is a retard isn't unreasonable.

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From lurker "LF" comes more proof of the superiority of the American south (except for no snow!).
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Green garlic is available at farmer's markets in the south. Bought and used fresh, until frost. Clean, delightful.
[...]
Green garlic is a hint milder in the bulb, and the green stems are edible, yet a bit milder. Just happy to known it's not from a filthy polluted country.

LF Garlic26.jpeg

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David Lebovitz is pompous and irritating, but he does know how to cook, and his recipes are rarely fussy. Here he makes something I have never made...Strawberry Jam. Well, I have cooked down fruit for compotes and such, but I am not a significant consumer of jams and jellies, because I am not, nor have I ever been a big big breakfast guy. Vacations are different though; I love trying local joints, which can often be amazingly good, even in areas that are not known for their food.

And...jams and jellies tend to be quite sweet, which is a big No-No for breakfast, especially the dreaded Maple Syrup on French Toast mania!

But Lebovitz's recipe is straightforward and gives the option to cut the sugar, which makes it intriguing, even though he is a toad.

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The garlic is doing well! I think. I know all of you are worried, but it is still tall and green and healthy! And if they survive the deer and squirrel apocalypse, and actually grow into something edible, I will be in garlic heaven! Now I have to figure out when to harvest! Late June into July seems like the consensus. But I'm a Dildo, not a farmer! In case it doesn't work out, send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM




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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:02 PM (qEb4U)

2 I lkke grilled ham and cheese, fry ham a bit first then put in grilled cheese

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:04 PM (qEb4U)

3 Kaboom! Obama all caps comment center!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:05 PM (b84UO)

4 Barry! Tear down this throbbing boil and pay your contractors!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:06 PM (b84UO)

5 Nobody comments in all caps.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:07 PM (b84UO)

6 In Greece, Taramosalata, or cod fish roe salad was a lovely spread for grilled bread brushed with garlic and olive oil, along with melizanasalata (eggplant salad, virtually the same a baba ghanoush). In thessaloniki I tried a dried fish roe that was salted, cured, and sliced very thinly on the mezze tray. You ate it with olives and grilled bread. Very good!

So yeah, I would try the Italian version!!

Posted by: moki at June 21, 2026 04:08 PM (wLjpr)

7 Good afternoon, horde.

I think I'm having watermelon for supper.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:11 PM (h7ZuX)

8 Yesterday I made chicken farmer john with angel hair pasta and pesto sauce

nailed it

tonight is top sirloin, reverse seared
nobody cares

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 04:11 PM (RP2m/)

9 Nobody comments in all caps.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 04:07 PM (b84UO)

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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I EXIST!!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESSBERGER at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (2UnvF)

10 Hello foodies! I had an amazing brunch, house made whole milk Greek yogurt, local honey, and fresh berries with an iced sage and orange latte. So good. I am still full, though I expect dinner will be an expectation.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (hftzA)

11 Swordfish steak and asparagus for the grill this afternoon, accompanied by oven roasted red ‘taters. Cream Brûlée for dessert.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (3Ope8)

12 7 Good afternoon, horde.

I think I'm having watermelon for supper.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21

I could get behind this. Do you get black diamond watermelons?

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (hftzA)

13 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

14 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (2UnvF)

15 The base recipe can be used with pretty much any seafood, although I would stick to briny flavors like vongole (clams) or even anchovies!

Linguini con vongole is a great summer dish. Dad would love to spend hours in the bay between Tuckerton and LBI, to bring home 6-10 dozen clams. The chowders were for soup, little necks were for eating raw, and cherrystones were for pasta. If mom was feeling it, some of those were baked, often with just a small square of bacon. Those were good days...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (nbLIj)

16 13 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (hftzA)

17 Spaghetti carbonara is bomb.

I’d make a pound of pasta and my boys would down it in one meal.

Simply, bacon and egg pasta.

Sometimes I would add preserved lemons and fresh basil. They ate it all. One sitting. Easy peasy.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:17 PM (X1Jq6)

18 Well said on the antibiotic resistance issue, CBD. This is largely a trojan horse issue by those who wish to extinct animal agriculture by making it prohibitively expensive. Of course antibiotics need to be administered judiciously but, IMO, this is a far greater issue among the human species. Especially since doctors are routinely cowed by every self-diagnosing Karen to prescribe antibiotics for every case of sniffles & sore throat that may actually be of viral origin. Furthermore, those who don't complete the full course as prescribed because they decide they're better or want to "save some for next time" are certainly contributing to the resistant strains.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 04:17 PM (kOluj)

19 114 101 Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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They did sesame seeds because they were cheaper than the traditional poppy seed bun.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 04:20 PM (iLKq8)

20 'mmm mmm...momma's makin' fish egg pasta!!!

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:20 PM (8uzBS)

21 I recently invented putting BBQ sauce on hotdog sausage sammiches rather than catsup.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 04:21 PM (GNqmQ)

22 I could get behind this. Do you get black diamond watermelons?
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (hftzA)

I get whatever my small town Kroger has, and I don't think it's Black Diamond. That sounds too fancy for Meth County, haha!

It is nice and red, though, and firm. I hate it when I cut one open and it's mushy.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:21 PM (h7ZuX)

23 The rule in human antibiotics:
If you aren’t showing improvement after 14 days, you prescribe antibiotics.

Who, in today’s world, is that patient?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:22 PM (X1Jq6)

24 Outside typing, have screen display up high

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:23 PM (qEb4U)

25 14 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.

Posted by: Duke Lowell
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When things got going I took my iPad into the room and camped out. Sometimes you can't run fast enough.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 04:23 PM (iLKq8)

26 This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (hftzA)

I missed it. I was still back there on Don Black's chicken farmer John. Voice to text error, DB being funny, or is chicken farmer John a thing?

*ponders

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:24 PM (h7ZuX)

27 16 13 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.
Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:16 PM (hftzA)


I like big cheesteaks and I cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir Eats-A-Lot at June 21, 2026 04:25 PM (PiwSw)

28 I missed it. I was still back there on Don Black's chicken farmer John. Voice to text error, DB being funny, or is chicken farmer John a thing?

*ponders
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21

And now I am laughing even harder. By myself in the studio. Good morning, I hope no one looks through the glass doors because I have tears running down my face and look psychotic. I don’t know why these have struck me as hysterical today.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 04:28 PM (hftzA)

29 My mom made strawberry freezer jam. It's very easy and so good. She also made plum jelly when the local wild plum crop was big enough and my dad came home with paper grocery bags full. That is the best jelly I've tasted.

Posted by: huerfano at June 21, 2026 04:29 PM (VJX5o)

30 Wuzatta steak Inna grilled cheese?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 04:29 PM (Kt19C)

31 My go to grilled cheese is extra sharp cheddar, bacon and jalapeños .

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 04:31 PM (afJtY)

32 For Father's Day the wife is honoring my request for her homemade pizza. Crust from scratch and a pound of mozzarella well decorated with pepperoni, Canadian bacon, and mushrooms. For us, a classic.

Posted by: Toxic Jeff at June 21, 2026 04:31 PM (LL3es)

33 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.

check out the specials at DoorDash

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:33 PM (8uzBS)

34 I made cherry preserves with home-grown cherries a couple of weeks ago. So good on sourdough toast.

I didn't get my starter out to refresh this morning, so no bread for me this week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:34 PM (h7ZuX)

35 chili cheese dogs and fries

Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 21, 2026 04:34 PM (jrgJz)

36 Simply, bacon and egg pasta.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:17 PM (X1Jq6)

A signature dish in our family has this ingredient list. We called it Pastera, which could be confused with the traditional Easter pie. This is not that.

Boil two pounds of spaghetti and bake a pound of bacon in a medium-to-large roasting pan. Remove bacon from pan when done, but keep the fat. Strain the cooked pasta and dump it into the roasting pan. Toss a bit to get the bacon fat fully involved. Now scramble 8-12 eggs (you can add a bit of parsley to this for color and a bit of flavor) and pour into the pasta. Crumble the cooked bacon over the top and give the pan a little shake to settle everything then bake a 350 for about an hour. Do an extra 10 minutes at 400 for extra crispiness if you're into that kind of thing. Cool, cut into squares and serve.

Mom would sometimes pack this in my lunch instead of a sammich. I was a spoiled kid in many ways...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 04:35 PM (nbLIj)

37 Your pizza sounds great, Toxic Jeff. Do you bake in a regular oven, or do you have one of those specialty ovens?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:36 PM (h7ZuX)

38 I keep a bowl of cherries and a bowl of red seedless grapes in the fridge to go with ice water and lemon when I’m taking a break while doing landscape work. Perfect for hot days!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (3Ope8)

39 No idea what my sister has for us today, butt cheesesteak tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (qEb4U)

This is exactly the type of typo I would make. I am laughing so hard right now.

I'm still stuck on figuring out what "Butt Cheese" is.

Posted by: Fritzy at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (2GIh1)

40 I can't stand people who make being pretentious and artsy-fartsy about food into their whole persona. Bro I'm about to use my teeth to mash your masterpiece into paste, swallow it, then my gut is going to turn it into poop. Please find something else to be a snobby twat about.

Posted by: ballistic at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (oqH4h)

41 Depends on your definition of easy.

Is easy ordering grubhub? Or pizza?
Is easy popping in a microwave?

Is easy doing a little chopping and sautéing and then finishing in the oven?

And is easy most satisfying? I like preparing a meal from scratch. And sourcing ingredients. And prepping before the prep. It’s such a wonderful feeling to sit down and eat something thoughtfully prepared.

I made a pork chop for myself for lunch. Dusted in seasoned flour, fried I olive oil/butter. Added French herbs and a big dose of fresh lemon. Served with hummus, roasted eggplant, onion and garlic ( did that yesterday) and Greek yogurt.

Just me. It was nice.

Heading out to the beach. It’s 68 and sunny.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:39 PM (QBhXE)

42 Just finished some Safeway tater salad with my late lunch. I have such miser tendencies that I have to tell myself its okay to spend that much on a small container of tater salad because my labor time to make my own is not worth it when it is just me eating it. I should make a point of adding pickles and onions to the next container I buy though. That isn't time intensive and does kick up the flavor enough to be worth it.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 04:39 PM (PV+Zw)

43 Who, in today’s world, is that patient?
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 04:22 PM (X1Jq6

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I hear you. So many contributors to the issue... regulation and insurance bastardizing the doctor/ patient relationship and cost-benefit decisions. To say nothing of the internet making everyone half-smart about complex issues.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 04:40 PM (kOluj)

44 My husband loves Spaghetti alla Bottarga. Easy peasy as you said: make spaghetti aglio e olio and grate the bottarga over the top. Hub also thinly slices a few pieces of bottarga and adds it with the garlic when he sautes it for extra flavor.

There are several kinds of bottarga -- red mullet, grey mullet, bluefin tuna. You want the Sardinian grey mullet. Trust me.

Posted by: jix at June 21, 2026 04:43 PM (y687V)

45 " I keep a bowl of cherries and a bowl of red seedless grapes in the fridge to go with ice water and lemon when I’m taking a break while doing landscape work. Perfect for hot days!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead "

That sounds good but remember what happened to poor old Zachary Taylor.

Posted by: fd at June 21, 2026 04:44 PM (vFG9F)

46 The use of antibiotics in food animals comes up every few years.

The US uses antibiotics in chickens to treat, control, and prevent bacterial diseases (such as necrotic enteritis), and to maintain flock health. However, under FDA regulations, these are heavily regulated, and strict "withdrawal periods" ensure no antibiotic residues remain in the meat before it reaches the market. (There are lots of rules & more than one antibiotic-free label.)

Shapiro Administration Moves Quickly to Protect Pennsylvania Farms from New World Screwworm, June 13, 2026

Antibiotics in U.S. beef and the recent resurgence of the New World Screwworm (NWS) are distinct but overlapping issues. While antibiotics are widely used in cattle management, neither the parasites nor the drugs present a food safety risk to consumers.

By federal law, all meat sold in the U.S. must be free of antibiotic residues, whether it is labeled "antibiotic-free" or not. (The USDA Food Safety and Inspection Service randomly tests carcasses to ensure compliance.)

We're not so bad. Right?

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 04:45 PM (NFX2v)

47 'mmm mmm...momma's makin' fish egg pasta!!!
Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:20 PM (8uzBS)

No she is not!! Shoulder roast for you!

Posted by: DanMa'am at June 21, 2026 04:48 PM (8uzBS)

48 37.
Regular oven she does.

Posted by: Toxic Jeff at June 21, 2026 04:48 PM (LL3es)

49 On Tech thread had a run together sentence. All day been typing then having to insert spaces between every word

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:49 PM (qEb4U)

50 'Cooking Oil Thieves' caught on camera in Fenwick Island
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There was a Simpsons episode about this...

Homer steals the cooking oil from Bart's school, but gets caught in the act by Groundskeeper Willie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu24aQ3D5sk

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 04:49 PM (gnNyN)

51 Wife and I used to make blackberry jam from the blackberries in the backyard...one year we made several GALLONS of blackberry jam, all with the seeds removed (because I hate seeds in my jam).

Haven't made jam in...probably a decade now. No desire.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 04:53 PM (l3cgK)

52 We're not so bad. Right?

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 04:45 PM (NFX2v)


No...our food is safe! I am more concerned with antibiotic resistance then food safety.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 04:54 PM (PLxDd)

53 48 37.
Regular oven she does.
Posted by: Toxic Jeff

Me, too. All of my cooking happens inside. I don't even grill. Don't have the equipment nor the skills.

If I had a place for it, I would consider building a brick oven outside.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (h7ZuX)

54 51 Wife and I used to make blackberry jam from the blackberries in the backyard...one year we made several GALLONS of blackberry jam, all with the seeds removed (because I hate seeds in my jam).

I thought jam without seeds was called jelly....

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (/enuJ)

55 Inc. com

Why Thieves Are Suddenly Targeting the Trash Behind Beachside Restaurants
Two men were just arrested in Delaware for stealing this common waste product. Here’s why officials don’t think it’s an isolated incident.
Jun 17, 2026

Posted by: L -No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 04:56 PM (NFX2v)

56 A grilled cheese ribeye is heresy. Now a tuna melt or patty melt is reasonable.

At least slice up the steak, savages, or your bread will be turned to mush and destroyed while you try to rip that steak apart with you teeth.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 04:57 PM (fkjGs)

57 I thought jam without seeds was called jelly....
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (/enuJ)

Jelly is made from clear juice. Jam can have seeds strained out, but will still have fruit pulp.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:57 PM (h7ZuX)

58 54 51 Wife and I used to make blackberry jam from the blackberries in the backyard...one year we made several GALLONS of blackberry jam, all with the seeds removed (because I hate seeds in my jam).

I thought jam without seeds was called jelly....

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:55 PM (/enuJ)

No. Jelly is made from juice. Jam is made with fruit pulp.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 04:58 PM (l3cgK)

59 Jelly is made from clear juice. Jam can have seeds strained out, but will still have fruit pulp.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 04:57 PM (h7ZuX)

IDNKT, thanks DMLW

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 04:59 PM (/enuJ)

60 a grilled cheese sandwich is an unimaginative pupusa.
Fight me.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 04:59 PM (rbvCR)

61 A rib eye grilled cheese is like a poor cheesesteak

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (qEb4U)

62 Mashing up threads. Last week when doing some decluttering of the garage, the George Foreman grill caught my eye and I decided that would be helpful to get myself to cook a burger, pork chop, steak etc. more often. I couldn't find the drip pan it is supposed to have but improvised with an oval glass dish from the cupboard. I have used it a couple of times and will use it more as it is way less hassle than the gas grill outside and taste and cleanup are both better than pan frying on the stovetop.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (PV+Zw)

63 Marmalade has a peel...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (l3cgK)

64 And, thanks Jim. My wife did all the food stuff, I am just a Moron

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (/enuJ)

65 A grilled cheese ribeye is heresy. Now a tuna melt or patty melt is reasonable.

At least slice up the steak, savages, or your bread will be turned to mush and destroyed while you try to rip that steak apart with you teeth.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone


So he accuses of of sucking at cooking, but he sucks at eating?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (VHUov)

66 And I accuse myself of not proofreading. "So he accuses us of....."

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 05:02 PM (VHUov)

67 64 And, thanks Jim. My wife did all the food stuff, I am just a Moron

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (/enuJ)

She got me into it, including the sterilization of the jars/lids, adding the sugar, using the thermometer to know when to do which step. Lots of work, but folks loved it as gifts.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 05:03 PM (l3cgK)

68 I haven't thought about Fenwick Isl in, probably 50 years. We used to vacation in Rehoboth Beach (long before it was a ghey destination.) Such a weird heist for some cooking oil.

Was it used?




Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 05:04 PM (jehhT)

69 65 A grilled cheese ribeye is heresy. Now a tuna melt or patty melt is reasonable.

At least slice up the steak, savages, or your bread will be turned to mush and destroyed while you try to rip that steak apart with you teeth.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

So he accuses of of sucking at cooking, but he sucks at eating?

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 05:01 PM (VHUov)

Is your steak that tough? I guess you didn't sous vide it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 05:04 PM (l3cgK)

70 Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 05:00 PM (PV+Zw)

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George Foreman grill is also a superior option for cooking bacon. Much less smoke than a skillet and can achieve whatever doneness you like just by varying duration.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:05 PM (kOluj)

71 I remember eating raw hamburger meat in the early 70's when helping my dad make meatballs. Never got sick. I wouldn't do it today for money.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 05:06 PM (KC5Lt)

72 I find making jelly is more trouble than it is worth. I can make apple jelly fine with juice, or the steamer, but I don't like it much.

I make an apple compote by peeling apples, shredding them, and then cooking the shreds down with sugar and pectin and a teaspoon or so of lemon juice. It comes out so much brighter tasting than the jelly. I make a pear compote the same way.
When you use the shredded fruit it is spreadable like jam.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:07 PM (rbvCR)

73 !!!! IT WORKED !!!!
Thank you to all that offered tips about cooking a brisket in a slow cooker.

While not Rancherbob quality it was definitely above parr. Melt in your mouth tender and moist.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:07 PM (afJtY)

74
This is the guy I got the Smash Taco recipe from that worked so well.

There's 4 varieties here. I made the Mexican taco version, duh.

Just great. A home-run. Everyone loved it. Instantly on the rotation.

The Pizza version looks great too, I'lll make it eat some point and the Breakfast Smash Taco looks like a perfect waker-upper.

Here's the vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVQPIpxjDv8

Fire up your flat-top grill or cast iron skillet and make some today.

Do it!

Do it now!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:08 PM (iJfKG)

75 The term I remember reading was, "inadvertently dragging the sandwich meat from between the bread slices like a hyena pulling the entrails out of a wildebeest it had stolen from a lion's kill"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:10 PM (rbvCR)

76 George Foreman grill:

All of them, Amazon, are teflon coated.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 05:10 PM (iLKq8)

77 Wouldn't think a rib eye grilled cheese would be bad, just poor substitute. My dad use to put in Lebanon bologna in one, did a few times and its ok

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:10 PM (qEb4U)

78 Speaking of odd foods, I had sweetbreads last night for dinner. They were quite good!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 05:12 PM (PLxDd)

79 I looked into 'brewing' bio diesel 20-30 years ago or just straining used fryer oil and setting up a pre-heat system in the vehicle. After reading a fair amount about it I decided not to mess with the chemistry to get bio-diesel and that I am not enough of a mechanic to create a pre-heat system so a diesel could run on straight oil and I will just pay the diesel prices.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 05:12 PM (PV+Zw)

80 George Foreman grill is also a superior option for cooking bacon. Much less smoke than a skillet and can achieve whatever doneness you like just by varying duration.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:05 PM (kOluj)
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I'll have to try that some day. I do use mine for cooking burgers and smoked sausages. Works great for those.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM (gnNyN)

81 Better go prep the grill. This Sunday's steak is, apropos of Father's Day, the 24 oz ribeye. Partial credit to those guessing porterhouse, a solid dad steak, indeed. I opted for what was available and have no doubt that regret will find no home here today.

Sides are mushrooms and mashy taters. The wine? You would ask, wouldn't you? Ribeye comes alive against a solid merlot, but a recent guest brought a wine to me so we're going with that. A Cooper's Hawk Moscato.

(Ducks a thrown chair and tosses jerky sticks into the more animated section of the crowd)

Hear me out brethren! The red meat/red wine rule serves us well, but a lively white wine bearing the light carbonation of a Moscato cuts through the ribeye's fatty richness, cleansing the palate for the next enticing forkful. Let us boldly explore this path so rarely trod, and reap the rewards of the unexpected pleasures to be found therein.

I'll let you know next week if it sucked...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM (nbLIj)

82 My toaster died this week and I'm thinking of replacing it with a toaster oven. Since I live alone, it seems it might be useful. Any thoughts for or against? Brands to recommend?

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 05:14 PM (iIAkP)

83
The lovely and delightful Mrs naturalfake is making

Fried Chicken with Biscuits and Gravy for muh Father's Day Dinner.

Yay!

She paid attention when my Mom was still alive and make a perfect duplicate of Mom's Fried Chicken. So, life is great.

That seems to be one of her gifts, Mrs naturalfake often duplicate foods we eat in restaurants and like.

She lost always hits her target the first time and even improves on the recipe.

It's kinda amazing.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:15 PM (iJfKG)

84 Wenda, I bought an Emeril Legasse air fryer/oven and it is great.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:16 PM (afJtY)

85 Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM (nbLIj)

I had a Chablis with the sweetbreads, so you won't get an argument from me about wine pairings.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 05:17 PM (PLxDd)

86 I guess I should head to Sardinia, where it is a famous and popular dish, but that's a bit much for one plate of pasta, even for a glutton like me!

For a man who burns his house down to resolve minor maintenance issues, sojourning to Sardinia seems a trifle, barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 05:20 PM (0sNs1)

87 Here you go...those of you who wish to lose weight:

A new diet is sweeping through President Trump's cabinet-and it involves heaping portions of sauerkraut.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick,
Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy and Vice President JD Vance have all embraced the diet, drawn by the promise of slimmer waistlines and glowing skin.
They all apparently have determined the health benefits outweigh the slightly sulfurous odors that have been the cause of some domestic friction.
"Within 30 days I lost 20 pounds," Kennedy said at an event in Michigan this week. "JD
Vance is also on the diet and you can see how different he looks."
The diet is the brainchild of Dr. Sean O'Mara, who advises his high-profile patients to eat fermented foods such as sauerkraut and kimchi, alongside grass-fed steak-and to abstain from alcohol and sugary food.
O'Mara says the diet leads to a reduction in visceral fat, which wraps around organs, as well as a more robust microbiome, which can help with digestion.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:24 PM (iJfKG)

88 tosses jerky sticks into the more animated section of the crowd
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 05:13 PM


Obviously the other side of the hall, opposite the genteel and reserved Texas BBQ Aficionados.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2026 05:25 PM (0sNs1)

89 slightly sulfurous odors that have been the cause of some domestic friction

Wait until we happy-foot through your dining room. Slightly will be a distant memory.

Posted by: Penguins of the World at June 21, 2026 05:28 PM (JZDm4)

90
While not Rancherbob quality it was definitely above parr. Melt in your mouth tender and moist.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:07 PM (afJtY)

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Awesome! We've done fresh briskets in a slow cooker and generally treat them the same as any other beef roast, with similar results. Low & slow is the key.

I also have a recipe for corned beef in the slow cooker that I love. Basically cover it in Guinness and throw in a couple heads of garlic that are halved cross-wise. A couple other ingredients that escape me now....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:30 PM (kOluj)

91 Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 05:24 PM (iJfKG)

If you aren't making it yourself, where do you get fermented sauerkraut and kimchi?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:31 PM (OYsYV)

92 I'm a big fan of sauerkraut and potatoes, even without some good pork chops, pork loin, whatever.

In fact, tomorrow (depending on weather) I have some fresh bratwursts that could probably use some 'kraut on 'em.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 05:32 PM (jehhT)

93 My wife gets kimchi once in a while from Waremart, they keep it in the open fridge with the bagged salads. It is live, and it tends to bulge the jar lids.
Otherwise you can get it at US Food Source, which is a restaurant/bulk store, and of course H Mart and any asian market.
Live sauerkraut is harder, mostly it is canned.

I make my own, in fact I am making some right now. I make it in quart jars.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:35 PM (rbvCR)

94 Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:35 PM (rbvCR

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:36 PM (OYsYV)

95 I did the brisket too! My slow cooker is a Cuisinart, so it has a simmer heat. Very slow. Tender and juicy.

Tonight I'm having a salad of the last of it, cut into match sticks, with an equal amount of parboiled celery root, also cut into matchsticks, and a mustardy dressing.

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 05:39 PM (iIAkP)

96 And thanks for the toaster oven recommendation, Ben Had.

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 05:40 PM (iIAkP)

97 Matthew Kant Cipher, I use Guinness when making beans with ham hocks/bacon and beef with barley soup.
I don't think I could cook without wine, Guinness, rum or tequila.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:41 PM (afJtY)

98 I will serve the brisket for lunch tomorrow and make brisket nachos with what is left.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:43 PM (afJtY)

99 82 ... "My toaster died this week and I'm thinking of replacing it with a toaster oven. Since I live alone, it seems it might be useful. Any thoughts for or against? Brands to recommend?"

Wenda,
Years ago our toaster bought the farm. We found an inexpensive Oster toaster oven at Costco with mechanical controls, not electronic. It has a bigger foot print on the counter but it's worth it for us. We use it for toast and baking things like small winter squash. It can bake about six of my biscuits. And we use it to reheat a lot of things. Very sturdy and versatile. It cost about 35 bucks but that was about seven years ago. I liked it so much when Ollie's had it I got a second one as back up.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 05:49 PM (yTvNw)

100 Sauerkraut recipe:

Chop a cabbage in half, remove the heart, and peel off the outer leaves until you get a few nice leaves. Set the nice ones aside since you will need them

Chop the cabbage up into thin slices. A mandoline will work as well as a knife for smaller batches.
Pile shreds into a large bowl (I have some broad stainless bowls I got just for this sort of prep) and at this point you can add shredded carrots or green onions, or red pepper. Then add salt.
It doesn't need to be canning salt, but table salt can make your kraut soggy eventually.

The ideal ratio is between 1 or 2 tablespoons of salt to 1-3/4 lbs of cabbage. This is not an exact science.

Let the cabbage sweat for 30 - 60 minutes, You are now ready to pack the shredded cabbage into quart jars, and pack it down firmly. Leave an inch clearance on top and then cover the cabbage inside with a cabbage leaf trimmed to fit., fill the jar to cover the cabbage with the brine from the steel bowl.

Set it on the drainboard to age for 4-5 days to bubble over, then put it in the fridge to store. Start eating it whenever. It will turn khaki eventually when it is fully ripe.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 05:51 PM (rbvCR)

101 Ben Had - hell yeah! A well stocked bar is essential to both good cooking and coping with kitchen failures :-)

Here's that recipe: https://shorturl.at/u037q

I like doing the cabbage this way, but usually only do that on St Paddy's Day.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 05:52 PM (kOluj)

102 Matthew Kant Cipher, thank you. That is on my next to try list.

I love food !

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 05:54 PM (afJtY)

103 Egg sacs (roe) from pan fish, lightly crusted in cornmeal, salt and pepper, then fried in bacon grease til just before bursting open. Remembered from 1956 on the banks of Savannah River Swamp. Oh Lordy.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 05:57 PM (LHPAg)

104 Yay! Food!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 05:59 PM (zC76q)

105 Has anyone tried "glooking?" Here's the "You suck at cooking" guy explaining the process of glooking.
https:/www.youtube.com/
watch?v=mC78Adz93e0

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2026 06:01 PM (cWLG3)

106 RMBS, thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:04 PM (afJtY)

107 No problem, Ben Had.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 06:05 PM (zC76q)

108 Ben Had- I forgot that recipe wasn't actually a slow cooker recipe, but you can easily just throw those ingredients in the crockpot and put it on low. Also, I recall using a second bottle of Guinness instead of the beef broth - YMMV.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 06:06 PM (kOluj)

109 One of the very special things about the TXMoMe is that the meals are prepared by wonderful cooks on this thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:06 PM (afJtY)

110 Vance is also on the diet and you can see how different he looks."

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That diet should be banned immediately for anyone negotiating with the Iranians.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:07 PM (XjKiU)

111 Cicero, that diet just makes it easier to fart in their general direction.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:09 PM (afJtY)

112 Remembered from 1956 on the banks of Savannah River Swamp. Oh Lordy.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 05:57 PM (LHPAg)

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Winn ah wuz a little bitty baby
Mah mamma woulda rock me in da cradle
In them ol' cotton fields back home

Posted by: J. Fogerty at June 21, 2026 06:10 PM (XjKiU)

113 Please find something else to be a snobby twat about.

Posted by: ballistic at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (oqH4h)


You seem nice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:11 PM (PLxDd)

114 Hello Foodsters,

I have been enjoying Father's Day by working my fanny off on deferred projects that have achieved immediacy.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:11 PM (BGSp9)

115 Pete Bog, I shant believe it. You always have your ducks in a row.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:15 PM (afJtY)

116 I like when generic brands are better than the name brands for about half the price. Best example for me is Ritz crackers. They were my favorite for decades but some change must have been made. They just don't taste the same: not as tasty and they crumble too easily. The Food Lion version tastes like Ritz used to at about half the cost. Similar with graham crackers, Food Lion vs Nabisco, instant pudding FL vs Jello brand. The store version of potato chips vs Lays. The chips are different but good enough and the store brand doesn't insult me by charging the same for ever smaller bags.

The local Food Lion won my heart when they started carrying Bit O' Honey candy, one of my childhood favorites.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 06:15 PM (yTvNw)

117 I'm enjoying a cigar and a rusty nail - its my Father's Day present to myself. I'll make smashburgers later. Hope you all are enjoying your Sunday.

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2026 06:15 PM (tTZHu)

118 111 Cicero, that diet just makes it easier to fart in their general direction.

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I'm all in favor of more farting and less giving away the family jewels.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:16 PM (XjKiU)

119 Did anyone click on the top graphic?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (PLxDd)

120 Chicken farmer John Parmesan?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (R+iUD)

121 119 Did anyone click on the top graphic?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (PLxDd)


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If only Dr. Demento was alive to see this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:18 PM (XjKiU)

122 >>> 119 Did anyone click on the top graphic?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:17 PM (PLxDd)

No one expects a Mystery Click in the Food Thread!!!



(but I did catch the reference in the title)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 06:18 PM (R+iUD)

123 I had a Chablis with the sweetbreads, so you won't get an argument from me about wine pairings.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 05:17 PM (PLxDd)

Hey Dildo, someday you should try Sauternes with roast chicken or spicy Thai food. Great combination.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:20 PM (BGSp9)

124 JTB,
Kirkland brand stuff is, most times, very very good.

Go Mariners!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:21 PM (bxhng)

125 Posted by: ballistic at June 21, 2026 04:38 PM (oqH4h)

You seem nice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:11 PM (PLxDd)

I bet his or her thoughts on romance and commitment would be equally compelling.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:21 PM (BGSp9)

126
I like when generic brands are better than the name brands for about half the price. Best example for me is Ritz crackers. They were my favorite for decades but some change must have been made. They just don't taste the same: not as tasty and they crumble too easily. The Food Lion version tastes like Ritz used to at about half the cost.

I agree about Ritz on both counts (taste and crumbling).
We have no Food Lion here. I wonder if Kroger brand or Walmart brand are better?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (Cqx++)

127 Going to shill for HEB . Their flour tortillas are beyond good

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (afJtY)

128 Fermented foods have lots of probiotics and help the gut biome. Kombucha and kefir offer this as well.

Grass fed steak is just going to be leaner than corn fed or corn finished, and if you haven’t had it, it may have a slightly different taste when you first start to eat it. We do grass fed beef here for the most part, to include ground beef. That may be overkill, honestly, but it can’t hurt.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:23 PM (OoFl2)

129 36 ... :We called it Pastera, which could be confused with the traditional Easter pie."

Joe Kidd,
That pasta recipe sounds great. You had me at bacon. I had hopes for the dish at the top of the thread but Mrs. JTB is allergic to any seafood. Bacon is another matter.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 06:24 PM (yTvNw)

130 Speaking of fish heads there was an article linked on the tech thread about a robotic fish sorting machine that killed the fish quickly and bled them to keep the flesh fresh and more salable. Pretty interesting.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:24 PM (BGSp9)

131 Grass fed steak is just going to be leaner than corn fed or corn finished, and if you haven’t had it, it may have a slightly different taste when you first start to eat it.

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It's a decidedly different taste, and not for the better IMHO.

I always look for Angus beef, fed on grain and unlucky ranch hands.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06:26 PM (XjKiU)

132 Well back to the salt mine. A few more things to get done today before cooking the rack of lamb from the 4H lamb.

Wood fire I think.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:26 PM (BGSp9)

133 We have no Food Lion here. I wonder if Kroger brand or Walmart brand are better?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (Cqx++)

I find a lot of Kroger brand to be equal or, often superior, to national brands. Usually.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (h7ZuX)

134 No one expects a Mystery Click in the Food Thread!!!
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I'm going to mull it over.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (XeU6L)

135 JTB,
Thanks for the information on your Oster toaster oven. Decisions, decisions....

Posted by: Wenda at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (iIAkP)

136
You seem nice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026

I wonder how to parlay this into a Mome give away. Both Snobby Twat and You Seem Nice need to be memorialized.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:28 PM (OoFl2)

137
robotic fish sorting machine that killed the fish quickly and bled them to keep the flesh fresh and more salable.

Robot fish vampire

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:28 PM (Cqx++)

138 Mariners win!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (A5RD0)

139 I always look for Angus beef, fed on grain and unlucky ranch hands.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 06

Oh I bet the ranch hands might add a little piquant to the marbling!

Joking aside, you never know with pork!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (OoFl2)

140 Enlighten me, please. I have clean a fair amount of fish and they don't bleed.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (afJtY)

141 Enlighten me, please. I have clean a fair amount of fish and they don't bleed.
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There's a song idea in there somewhere.

Posted by: Alice Cooper at June 21, 2026 06:32 PM (XjKiU)

142 I wonder how to parlay this into a Mome give away. Both Snobby Twat and You Seem Nice need to be memorialized.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:28 PM (OoFl2)

I guess that instead of a "Fed" sticker, at next year's NoVaMoMee someone will slap a "Snobby Twat" sticker on CBD's back.

Posted by: Vendette at June 21, 2026 06:37 PM (1ieqq)

143 Hey Dildo, someday you should try Sauternes with roast chicken or spicy Thai food. Great combination.

Posted by: Pete Bog's agentic AI alter ego at June 21, 2026 06:20 PM (BGSp9)


I agree! I'll make the roast chicken, you bring the d'Yquem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:38 PM (PLxDd)

144

Starting Monday, Aldi will be giving away free mystery boxes of groceries.

The limited-time blind boxes have different themes: snacks, fiber, protein, and “mystery.”

Available on a first-come, first-served basis, while supplies last, the blind boxes will be released at noon ET on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

https://shorturl.ly/kROs1

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:38 PM (Cqx++)

145 Mariners win!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (A5RD0)


Are they Seattle's soccer team?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:40 PM (PLxDd)

146 145 Mariners win!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 06:30 PM (A5RD0)

Are they Seattle's soccer team?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 21, 2026 06:40 PM (PLxDd)

*sucks in breath, holds...

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 06:41 PM (h7ZuX)

147 I prefer the uncooked tortillas from HEB. the Mi Tienda brand, which is an HEB brand. Cook them fresh in cast iron pan as needed.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at June 21, 2026 06:41 PM (VCgbV)

148 “14 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.“

Go for a full brick of cheese!
The machine-gun burst will be fun!

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 21, 2026 06:42 PM (3hOgI)

149 Evening.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 21, 2026 06:44 PM (b4s65)

150 lin-duh, they have a bakery brand that they are offering that is the lightest flour tortilla I have ever used.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:44 PM (afJtY)

151 I begin prepping for colonoscopy tomorrow so tonight will be my last hurrah til Tuesday afternoon. Haven't decided on what to have yet.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 04:15 PM (2UnvF)

Ever had one before?

If you have...well, you know the score.

If you haven't...they fill your colon with air so when you wake up you're like a big ole whoopsie cushion. It's fun!

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 21, 2026 06:45 PM (b4s65)

152 Interesting combination of food in and out this evening.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:49 PM (afJtY)

153 I have made a watermelon salad as DMLW inspired me. Watermelon, cucumber, feta, a little red onion, and a big squeeze of lime.

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 06:49 PM (OoFl2)

154 RANCH DRESSING: Hidden Valley clone -- makes 2 cups
Feel free to share with all of your European friends

1 cup mayonnaise (Hellman's or Duke's, not MiracleWhip)
1 cup store-bought buttermilk* OR
*1 cup whole milk + 1 tsp. cream of tartar
1 tsp. dried parsley
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. ground black pepper
1/4 tsp. garlic powder
1/4 tsp. onion powder
1/8 tsp. dried thyme powder

Combine all ingredients in a bowl ... Stir, chill, then stir again until uniform ... To thicken, gradually add Sure-Jell powdered pectin in 1/8 tsp. increments until the dressing is as thick as you want it to be.

Posted by: Kathy at June 21, 2026 06:49 PM (MOK4W)

155 CBD, thank you once again for the food thread and to all that bring such great recipes.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:50 PM (afJtY)

156 I like when generic brands are better than the name brands for about half the price. Best example for me is Ritz crackers. They were my favorite for decades but some change must have been made. They just don't taste the same: not as tasty and they crumble too easily. The Food Lion version tastes like Ritz used to at about half the cost.

I agree about Ritz on both counts (taste and crumbling).
We have no Food Lion here. I wonder if Kroger brand or Walmart brand are better?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2026 06:22 PM (Cqx++)
___________________________

I always go for the generic spices, flavorings, and cooking add-ins when buying. High end brand on garlic salt or powder tastes almost exactly the same and costs a few bucks more for a very small bottle, jar, container.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2026 06:53 PM (dIske)

157 Ben had,
I've had the bakery tortillas and still prefer the ones you cook as needed.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at June 21, 2026 06:53 PM (VCgbV)

158 That's a deal! You prefer a lighter fresher recent vintage or something with some age?

Be very careful with your answer

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 21, 2026 06:54 PM (BGSp9)

159 Thanks for the Food Thread, CBD.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 21, 2026 06:56 PM (zC76q)

First World Problems...

WhyStein26.jpg

Why do I have this in a cabinet? I don't particularly like the beer, there is only one, so it isn't even a set, and the reason for its existence is lost in the mists of time and approaching senescence.

I have a vague recollection of one of the brats going through a "Stella Artois" phase, so that must be why, but why it hasn't been tossed is beyond me.

Soon though, my village's semi-monthly bulk pickup will be worked hard. I will revel in discarding...pretty much everything!

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Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Never had one , not against trying one though

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (Ia/+0)

3 > Belgium 5.2% piss water

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (jehhT)

4 Some day it will be a highly prized, very valuable antique.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (g8Ew8)

5 If one would have taken the time to review the history of those experts. Especially the British guy who came up with the Covid mortality model, you would have seen so many red flags you would have dismissed them.

Posted by: polynikes
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He couldn't dismiss the Administrative State.
Look at the trouble he's having now when a whole team of tough, smart people on his side.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (iLKq8)

6 Stella gave those glasses out as a promotional gimmick to get people to try their crappy beer at bars and gin joints or the Wally World parking lot.

Throw it in the garbage where it belongs.

Posted by: Euro Trash Beer at June 21, 2026 02:06 PM (g7saB)

7 Good afternoon and Happy Father's Day for all Fathers - by virtue of biology or by assuming the role for kids, grands, and strangers.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (ItpVy)

8 I don't get beer often, and big commercial beer never. But have a pub glass from one we built so keep it

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (Ia/+0)

9 STELLA!

Posted by: Brando at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (Cqx++)

10 Some day it will be a highly prized, very valuable antique.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

It will bring nothing except as part of a $1 box at the garage sale along with grandma's spoon and salt and pepper shaker collections.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (ItpVy)

11 ***and the reason for its existence is lost in the mists of time
--

Speaking of drinking glasses. Preparing to mix a drink, last night, I discovered my one and only favorite glass missing. How does this happen? I searched for it again and again, today too. It's spaced aliens.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:10 PM (iLKq8)

12 First World Problems.

Too many arm chair Presidents calling plays?

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:11 PM (IY9No)

13 $1 box at the garage sale along with grandma's spoon and salt and pepper shaker collections.

Posted by: Tonypete
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Blaspheme!
_one who throws naught away

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (iLKq8)

14 It will bring nothing except as part of a $1 box at the garage sale along with grandma's spoon and salt and pepper shaker collections.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (ItpVy)

Then it will become a treasure forgotten with fond memories lost forever with the mists of time.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (g8Ew8)

15 A large choir with every singer miked. This performance brought to you by Big Microphone. 4 mins.
youtube.com/watch?v=n9ot2MyW2w0

Posted by: gp at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (Jr5Lq)

16 Too many arm chair Presidents calling plays?
Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:11 PM (IY9No)


Admit his genius and let it go, he won't get less irritating or logically corrupt, but he won't keep following you around trying to prove you wrong.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (rbvCR)

17 First World Problem: Configuring svxlink. I've been editing .conf files for forty years, and this is the deepest rabbit hole I've ever fallen into.

Posted by: gp at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (Jr5Lq)

18 Then it will become a treasure forgotten with fond memories lost forever with the mists of time.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

You're exactly right and such a shame. Every time someone passes, we lose a book full of knowledge, experience and history of what was.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (ItpVy)

19 Check out the history of the name of the beer and see if that changes your opinion - it did for me!

Posted by: Max K at June 21, 2026 02:17 PM (fgk4Z)

20 but why it hasn't been tossed

Because you might need it sometime.
Same as for the house full of similar kept stuff.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026 02:17 PM (sl73Y)

21 You're exactly right and such a shame. Every time someone passes, we lose a book full of knowledge, experience and history of what was.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:14 PM (ItpVy)

LOL. We keep this up and we'll have written Kameltoe's next speech.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (g8Ew8)

22 You have it because who throws out a perfectly good glass?



Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (KC5Lt)

23 i have that glass too

copier !

Posted by: cherries in season at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (Ozvnh)

24 Send them to me! They're perfect for our Sun AM breakfasts. Cranberry and cheap champagne. Pancakes, bacon and scrambled eggs!

Posted by: Miflin at June 21, 2026 02:18 PM (aA6YN)

25 15 A large choir with every singer miked. This performance brought to you by Big Microphone. 4 mins.
youtube.com/watch?v=n9ot2MyW2w0

Posted by: gp
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Good.
Now teach engineers and music producers that drummers cymbals are something to be recorded and the sound reproduces. Drummers pay good money for them and hit them for a purpose more than expending energy.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:20 PM (iLKq8)

26 My brother in law and my sister drank Stella religiously for years, might still. They came back from years in Colorado as barkeeps, so maybe a reaction to Coors.
A middle of the road lager from what I recall. Better than Coors, but what isn't?

Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026 02:22 PM (sl73Y)

27 HAHAHA Stella. Here in liberal Chapel Hill a local bar hosted a beer tourney every year for a number of years around the same time as the NCAA basketball one. Knockout style head to head

Stella would win EVERY SINGLE YEAR because all the guys would split their votes around various porters stouts ipas etc while all the ladies (plus a good number of pansy ass lib type males wearing pants) would vote for the weak ass watered down piss flavored “beer drink.”

Thank you CBD for all your posts look forward to lurking on the food thread again!

Note….i don’t live in Chapel Hill anymore, escaped to the coast, near MCAS Cherry Point.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2026 02:23 PM (UhW4G)

28 Went to Costco yesterday and bought a dozen airline size bottles of lemonade flavored Svedka vodka for $10. It was my turn to buy the Birdie Juice for my golf group. The first world problem was how crowded Costco was.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:23 PM (KC5Lt)

29 My FWP today: Some of my wife's friends got together and made arrangements for a boat ride in honor of Father's Day. The other two guys are fine but their wives talk incessantly and are loud and obnoxious.

Just like our combined birthday party 3 weeks ago for 3 of us guys. It wasn't for us guys, it was an opportunity for them to exercise their harpyness.

I have an idea - let me alone. I'd much rather sit in my underwear on the deck drinking with the guys - only. We might speak, we might not. Perfect.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:24 PM (ItpVy)

30 Stella Artois is a headache in a can, just like Kokanee. Tastes OK when you drink it, next morning a headache. One or two is all it takes.

The glass would make good plinking target.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 02:26 PM (1z8ji)

31 They should move Fathers Day to the opening day of football.
This June stuff just ain't cutting it.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:28 PM (IY9No)

32 11.2 oz bottles.

WTF?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2026 02:29 PM (qFwJc)

33 We too have a Stella Artois (the other was broken somehow). Seem to recall getting them on one of those timeshare pitch trips. You know like you go to Key West, eat the lobster, drink the booze, snorkel the beautiful waters, and get sunburned. And say ixnay on the Imeshare-tay.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (LHPAg)

34 You never know what will be worth something. I had a spinster great aunt who died and had her stuff auctioned off. She had been buying baking powder in the ornamental tins for about 5c each, and throwing the empties in the attic. The batch went for $5.00 each. The junk in her attic sold for more than the house and land.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (z6ONu)

35 If I tossed everything I haven't used in the last two years ... I'd have a fairly empty house. That might mean I'm getting boring, stuck in my routines, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (vbXSk)

36 I like Stella Artois. Liked it before the Bud purchase. I have those Stella glasses but they're not an actual pint. Close enough for drinking however

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2026 02:31 PM (L9YhZ)

37 36 I like Stella Artois. Liked it before the Bud purchase. I have those Stella glasses but they're not an actual pint. Close enough for drinking however
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2026 02:31 PM (L9YhZ)

it's my husbands favorite beer....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 02:36 PM (FtULh)

38 People say that Saturnalia was like Roman Christmas. I get it; there some parallels.

But I would posit that the real analog is Father's Day, except for how relatively unimportant Father's Day is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 02:37 PM (BI5O2)

39 Saturnalia was like Roman Gay Pride month.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 02:39 PM (Kt19C)

40 I had no idea it was Fathers Day today until I got in the truck to go get mulch.

Because the first thing I heard once she got up was "would you mind getting that mulch" ? Which meant "I'm going to say it all day until you bring home that mulch".

Straight up. Heard it was Father's Day on the radio. So I called my Dad on noon. He didn't give a shit either.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:39 PM (P5MQi)

41 An opera singer forms a choir of herself, singing each part slightly diferently: ewe tube 14 mins total but skip to the end if you just want to hear it..

https://is.gd/8QqXru

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:40 PM (ZVgZ4)

42 it was an opportunity for them to exercise their harpyness.

I have an idea - let me alone. I'd much rather sit in my underwear on the deck drinking with the guys - only. We might speak, we might not. Perfect.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:24 PM (ItpVy)

Bingo.

My dad always said he just wanted to be left alone for a day.

Never worked. Never has, never will. It's a pointless holiday, like if people celebrated monogamy for one day at a gay bath house. Wouldn't last past 9am.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 02:41 PM (BI5O2)

43 It would be better if you had your nic engraved on it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 02:42 PM (R+iUD)

44 I need to do more purging of stuff that I'll never use. I get stuck a lot on "well this is metal, I should make a run to the recycling place and include this, not just toss it" and "I should try to give this away not just toss it" But there is lots of stuff that I can toss in the dumpster with no angst.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 02:42 PM (PV+Zw)

45 Well not expecting my dad to be around forever, he is 89.
So going to go see him, mom and my sister.

Back when I get there

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:43 PM (Ia/+0)

46 Never worked. Never has, never will. It's a pointless holiday, like if people celebrated monogamy for one day at a gay bath house. Wouldn't last past 9am.

Its like everything else. The Womenz got Mother's Day - so Hell or High Water - we'll have to put up with the same shit.

Now make Steak and Blow Job day National ? And look, like everything else, its not like your or my old lady can't hire that out either.

And I can make my own Steak.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:44 PM (P5MQi)

47 The junk in her attic sold for more than the house and land.
Posted by: Buck

My Grandpa's barn has entered the chat - he had at least one Ford from every decade from the 00's onward. The Model 'C' that was in drivable shape brought north of $40,000 when we sold it.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 21, 2026 02:44 PM (ItpVy)

48 Drink something out of it and smash it in the fireplace.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 02:44 PM (O7YUW)

49 At our NoVaMoMe 5 years ago there was a guy there giving out Stella glasses and engraving them with requests. Mr. bluebell ant I got one for each of our sons who were barely of legal drinking age and they thought they were great.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (afFes)

50 Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:39 PM (P5MQi)

Well, at least your wife didn't smother you with pillows as you remarked she might do on a thread from yesterday. All she asked for was mulch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (7RYym)

51 Well, at least your wife didn't smother you with pillows as you remarked she might do on a thread from yesterday. All she asked for was mulch.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (7RYym)


I think she's scared. To smother me with a pillow, she'd have to climb onto my chest to do it.

Pretty sure that's how Kid #2 started. So I get her reservations.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:47 PM (P5MQi)

52 All she asked for was mulch.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 02:45 PM (7RYym)

He needs to apply himself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 02:47 PM (1z8ji)

53 Hey there, Buck! So nice to meet you yesterday.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 02:48 PM (afFes)

54 Stella Artois is a good beer, but they insist on 11.2 oz bottles, and that's a no go for me. I even went to a restaurant where they had it on tap. Server felt compelled to warn me that the normal 24 oz glass (I ordered a large), was going to actually be 22.4 oz. I see this shrinkflation rot has even hit Pilsner Urquell, a beer I still hold in very high regard.

Here's my deal: You figure out how much to charge for twelve ounces of your product. I figure out if your product is worth that charge. If you refuse to offer me twelve ounces of your product at any price, I'll find a vendor that will. Good day to you, sir - I say good day!!

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 02:48 PM (nbLIj)

55 Stella overseas tastes much better than the US version. Or used to.

Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2026 02:50 PM (sn5xH)

56 Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.

The absolute most excellent "domestic" I've ever drank. By far.

Can't get it here.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (P5MQi)

57
My cupboard still looks like college. Stray mugs, glasses, whatevers as if from former roommates, people who dropped by, thrift shops, something nice that somehow hasn't broken yet. I've given away everything in moves a few times, but somehow it all keeps reassembling itself in my house. In fact, that gives me an idea for a sci-fi short story. Or a Disney movie, about all the mismatched mugs and dishes and silverware that get slammed together in some jolly hodgepodge, and suddenly the owner decides to remodel and they're all going to be thrown out or given away and replaced with shiny-new matching sets. Oh no!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (XJ22o)

58 Decluttering elevates one's mood measurably.

Posted by: gp at June 21, 2026 02:54 PM (Jr5Lq)

59 My FWP is those packages that have a zip lock so you can resell them. That's all well and good but first you have to tear open the package. They could make it easy by having some perforated line you could tear along but nooooooo! They just have a notch on each side and expect you to tear it straight. But it doesn't tear straight and half the time you tear down into the zip lock defeated the whole purpose.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 02:55 PM (ndZc7)

60 >>> 56 Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.
==
The absolute most excellent "domestic" I've ever drank. By far.

Can't get it here.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (P5MQi)

Maybe, maybe not.
https://shorturl.at/k15u3

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 02:56 PM (R+iUD)

61 Oh, it’s 200 versions of herself, and took 8 weeks to create. The final product is very good. The “choir”” is at about 11:40 or thereabouts.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:57 PM (ZVgZ4)

62 A Chicago FWP.

https://tinyurl.com/5n7w7dx5

or the gangs will use it for target practice for their heavy weapons, and have reduced it to rubble. I'm not sure which is more likely.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 02:58 PM (qx7Zg)

63 Maybe, maybe not.
https://shorturl.at/k15u3
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 02:56 PM (R+iUD)


They have it at East End Louisville at that Total Wine ... $15 a six. Thanks for the link.

That's an hour drive one way. Gonna' be a no.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:00 PM (P5MQi)

64 I think I have a Fat Tire glass somewhere from a happy hour. My prized crappy glass was a big Crown beer mug from an epic crawl in Songtan. Where is it? Who knows.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (kpS4V)

65 Stella overseas tastes much better than the US version. Or used to.

Kronenburg 1664 is my favorite beer.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 21, 2026 02:50 PM (sn5xH)

When I was in Amsterdam, I reluctantly ordered Heineken, bracing for the skunky experience of the stuff that washes ashore in the US. It was a revelation, so much so that I can enjoy an occasional glass here because my palate can now sense what it's meant to be..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (nbLIj)

66 Rumours are flying in the media about Keir Starmer resigning the U.K. Prime Minister position in a few days.

Did someone have the same conversation that was had with Justin Trudeau? (Always fun trying to tell a narcissist that the party's over and that they're going to step down, or the really BAD blackmail pictures will surface. What, you didn't think these guys actually resigned voluntarily, did you?)

Now back to our "what to do with the lone beer glass" discussion...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (O7YUW)

67 Use kitchen scissors to cut the package open so you don’t mess up the zip lock.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 03:03 PM (ZVgZ4)

68 Stick a candle in it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 03:03 PM (afJtY)

69 I think I have a Fat Tire glass somewhere from a happy hour. My prized crappy glass was a big Crown beer mug from an epic crawl in Songtan. Where is it? Who knows.

I still keep a pilsner glass just for the occasional bottle. And a pint glass as well.

Right now ? Miller High Life Lite out of a bottle.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (P5MQi)

70 1st World Economic Problems.

KTVU
@KTVU
A decline in car break-ins across Oakland is being welcomed as a public safety win, but it is also contributing to a downturn for some local auto glass repair businesses.

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A thug shortage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)

71 62. Heh, I was looking at the week in pics memes on KTs thread yesterday and had to look up what the letters actually said.

And couldn't help thinking "sounds like a Kamala Harris quote" afterwards. Why the architects didn't convince Barky to cut down the length and at least only have the letters on 1 building side the world will never know. Maybe they figured it was ugly and stupid regardless so why not have the words wrap around the 90 degree corner. I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)

72 Four tall boys of Kronenberg for $8 is not, however, a bad deal. I wonder if they could order me a flat ? Because I'd drive the 45 minutes to pick up a flat of 1664.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:07 PM (P5MQi)

73 59 My FWP is those packages that have a zip lock so you can resell them.
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Scissors. Glass, party dip jars. Zip lock w/real zippers. I transfer everything into more secure packaging.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 03:07 PM (iLKq8)

74 I think I have a Fat Tire glass somewhere from a happy hour. My prized crappy glass was a big Crown beer mug from an epic crawl in Songtan. Where is it? Who knows.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 03:01 PM (kpS4V)

I used to collect beer mugs. My favorite is one my kid sister brought home for me from her Germany trip. Ceramic, bearing the Berlin city crest and holds a proper liter. Took it to many a kegger back in the day..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:07 PM (nbLIj)

75 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 02:58 PM (qx7Zg)

I think that the meme was funny, but don't know how they'd get up there to paint all that graffiti

When we have to stop for a train, we often watch the art on the cars. Some of these people are rather talented . It's a shame the cat find a way to use this talent in a more productive way. Then again, if they're doing train car grafitti it means they probably aren't stabbing or robbing someone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:08 PM (lQ+/f)

76 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.

Posted by: PaleRider
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Murder Bird Statue

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 03:08 PM (iLKq8)

77 "Stella! Stelllllllaaaaaaaaaa!!!!"

Posted by: Sam Adams at June 21, 2026 03:09 PM (X+xvk)

78 73: Depending on the size of the resealable bag I just use a twist tie or bag clip when their zip lock fails. The frozen veggies are annoying. I've cut the top with scissors so many times only to find that no, you had to open the ziplock on the one side to be able to reseal the bag. If their reseal is not going to be useable they should just save themselves the 1/2 cent per bag and not have the stinking ziplock at all.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:11 PM (PV+Zw)

79
71

I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM

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I would be surprised if that didn't happen. Nobody anticipated that, or a few people knew better but kept quiet?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 21, 2026 03:12 PM (lsrsS)

80 I know I haven't changed my opinion on anything since I was 11.

UK Approves Trans Puberty Blockers for Children as Young as 11

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:13 PM (ndZc7)

81 Then again, if they're doing train car grafitti it means they probably aren't stabbing or robbing someone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:08 PM (lQ+/f)
But isn't the theme of the grafitti all about stabbing or robbing people?

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:14 PM (LHPAg)

82 Then again, if they're doing train car grafitti it means they probably aren't stabbing or robbing someone.

Yeah ... if they're defacing or taking somebody else's shit ... it couldn't be that bad.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:16 PM (P5MQi)

83 A thug shortage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)

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Please, "a pyrsyn experiencing thuggishness."

Posted by: NY Times Style Sheet at June 21, 2026 03:17 PM (PiwSw)

84 Rosie O’Donnell Claims Trump Will Use an “Assassination Attempt or a Terrorist Bombing” to Cancel Midterms

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So he's going to fake another assassination attempt.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:17 PM (ndZc7)

85 >>> 83 A thug shortage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)

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Please, "a pyrsyn experiencing thuggishness."
Posted by: NY Times Style Sheet at June 21, 2026 03:17 PM (PiwSw)

I thought it was " a pyrsyn involved in the justice system".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 03:18 PM (R+iUD)

86 So he's going to fake another assassination attempt.

I've bitched about him all day. But credit where credit is due. The Old Man showed a bit of "color" on the last one.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:19 PM (P5MQi)

87 Your prayers have been answered!

Yeah, Baby! Mike Myers Confirms “Austin Powers 4” in the Works

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:19 PM (ndZc7)

88 >>>I will revel in discarding...pretty much everything!

Um, that sounds like more than spring cleaning?

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (6wpGE)

89 Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:14 PM (LHPAg

It's in no recognizable language to me. Maybe it's their initials or something.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (looXz)

90 1st World Economic Problems.
KTVU
@KTVU
A decline in car break-ins across Oakland is being welcomed as a public safety win, but it is also contributing to a downturn for some local auto glass repair businesses.
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A thug shortage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (ndZc7)
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Have you ever witnessed the anger of the good shopkeeper, James B., when his careless son happened to break a pane of glass? If you have been present at such a scene, you will most assuredly bear witness to the fact, that every one of the spectators, were there even thirty of them, by common consent apparently, offered the unfortunate owner this invariable consolation--"It is an ill wind that blows nobody good. Everybody must live, and what would become of the glaziers if panes of glass were never broken?"

Posted by: Zombie Bastiat at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (2tnrG)

91 I'll see your 'Stella' and raise you a Falstaff Goblet … which was also used to serve root beer at Frostop …

Posted by: Dr_No at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (ayRl+)

92 Posted by: Euro Trash Beer

hahahaha

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:21 PM (6wpGE)

93 I still keep a pilsner glass just for the occasional bottle. And a pint glass as well.

Right now ? Miller High Life Lite out of a bottle.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:04 PM (P5MQi)

Since my move to Florida, I keep my pint glasses in the freezer. Otherwise, I'd have to pound every beer if I wanted to enjoy it cold. I do find a pint glass is the superior delivery system for beer, properly bathing the tongue while the foam plays into my sinuses for a fully immersive experience. I understand the utility of drinking straight from the bottle or can when on the beach or in a boat, but at home, nothing beats a frosted glass...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:22 PM (nbLIj)

94 I've bitched about him all day. But credit where credit is due. The Old Man showed a bit of "color" on the last one.
Posted by: Howdy

Eddie Scarry: New York Times Writers Are Mad About the War Ending. That Means Trump Is on the Right Track

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:23 PM (ndZc7)

95 >>> 91 I'll see your 'Stella' and raise you a Falstaff Goblet … which was also used to serve root beer at Frostop …
Posted by: Dr_No at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (ayRl+)

I'd never heard of this so had to look it up. You can get it in a some hardware stores, and there are even a few drive-ins remaining:
https://frostop.com/drive-in

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 03:23 PM (R+iUD)

96 Stella was a scam

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8wFCXsygs

Posted by: Syme993 at June 21, 2026 03:25 PM (wNgri)

97 Eddie Scarry: New York Times Writers Are Mad About the War Ending. That Means Trump Is on the Right Track

It is honestly ... about me and my wife. If she caught cancer - and I had the cure ? She'd rather die.

That's politics today.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:25 PM (P5MQi)

98 I guess whores stick together.

Gov. Hochul Extends Free Healthcare for Sex Workers with NY Taxpayers Footing the Bill

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:26 PM (ndZc7)

99
It's in no recognizable language to me. Maybe it's their initials or something.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:20 PM (looXz)
They all mean something.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (LHPAg)

100 >>> 98 I guess whores stick together.

Gov. Hochul Extends Free Healthcare for Sex Workers with NY Taxpayers Footing the Bill
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:26 PM (ndZc7)

She's just trying to help the NY tourism industry.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (R+iUD)

101 I used to have a glass from McDonalds that had the ingredients of a Big Mac in several different languages on it. All you had to do was recite them in less than five seconds. Got it in the mid 70s. Mom threw it out because there was lead in the paint.

Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (2UnvF)

102 Only fags have beer glasses shaped in this fashion. If I can't get a proper pint and am caught with one of these schooners, you can clip my man card.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (fkjGs)

103 They all mean something.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (LHPAg)

Yes, I'm sure it does, but I'm not part of the hood so I can't translate it. It's just that the use of the colors and shapes shows some artistic ability by these folks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (jtjbl)

104 Ilike glasses for the drink, wine types, rock glass for scotch
No reason to be uncivilized

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (qEb4U)

105 Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (2UnvF)
Damnit, Lowell. Now I want a Big Mac and I haven't had one in 20 years. Same as a Royale, right?

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (LHPAg)

106 57 My cupboard still looks like college. Stray mugs, glasses, whatevers as if from former roommates, people who dropped by, thrift shops, something nice that somehow hasn't broken yet. I've given away everything in moves a few times, but somehow it all keeps reassembling itself in my house.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2026 02:52 PM (XJ22o)

You've described my cabinets. Exactly.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (6wpGE)

107 Good news, everyone!

Earth May Survive the Sun’s Fiery Death in New Study That Flips Science on Its Head

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 03:32 PM (ndZc7)

108 Earth May Survive the Sun’s Fiery Death in New Study That Flips Science on Its Head

Next we're gonna' learn that biocarbons from below the ground come from ... get this ... the extreme heat and pressure from below the ground. With a massive assist from a great big nuke reaction in the sky.

Not from dino matter. You know ... not finite.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:34 PM (P5MQi)

109 Same as a Royale, right?
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:30 PM (LHPAg)

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Royale is the quarter pounder. Euro weenies use Royale because they use the metric system like all countries who haven't been to the moon.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (2UnvF)

110 Absolute Dictator AOP would station snipers in railyards and other sites known for "tagger" activity. Said snipers to be equipped with integrally suppressed paintball guns. The paintballs would include powerful dyes that bond to protein in human skin, so the splat won't wash off, plus a dollop of blistering agent, like mustard gas. Not enough to be lethal, just enough hurt real good, and make them seek medical attention. Then they could be arrested at the ER.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (1z8ji)

111 Not enough to be lethal, just enough hurt real good, and make them seek medical attention. Then they could be arrested at the ER.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (1z8ji)

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Harsh, but fair.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:37 PM (2UnvF)

112 Absolute Dictator AOP would station snipers in railyards and other sites known for "tagger" activity.

Gotta' say ... I would lure AOC in with something like a ride in a big truck. Maybe some fishing. Then I'd put on some old school Alabama on the radio. Subtle.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:38 PM (P5MQi)

113
Royale is the quarter pounder. Euro weenies use Royale because they use the metric system like all countries who haven't been to the moon.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:35 PM (2UnvF)
Only time I ever heard of a Royale was in the movie Pulp Fiction.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:39 PM (LHPAg)

114 101 Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions, pickles on a sesame seed bun.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:27 PM (2UnvF)

pickles, onions

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

115 I am down to only two beer pint glasses, as my Budweiser broke due my carelessness. It was given me by a Bud girl working the local liquor store in New Jersey. She said if I bought a 12 pack, I'd get the glass, and she could finally go home. Not a Bud drinker normally, but what the hell, her smile and look if relief was worth it.

The second glass came from The Flying Fish Brewing Co, a place I frequented in PA. That one just disappeared and I suspect it was broken by someone. I have a spare, and the other survivor is from the Back Bay Brewing Company, a Boston establish of which I have many fond memories..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (nbLIj)

116 Only time I ever heard of a Royale was in the movie Pulp Fiction.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:39 PM (LHPAg)

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Same, but I'm still gonna use it to make fun of the euros.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (2UnvF)

117 >>>Soon though, my village's semi-monthly bulk pickup

It's glass, so it's recyclable.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:43 PM (6wpGE)

118 ot: If you need a Wildfire containment for your lab you're vaccine isn't ready for people.

Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (FhXTo)

119 pickles, onions
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

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I almost went back and changed it but I figured I had a 50/50 shot. Plus, it was fifty some odd years ago and I can't believe I remembered as much as I did.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (2UnvF)

120 119 pickles, onions
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

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I almost went back and changed it but I figured I had a 50/50 shot. Plus, it was fifty some odd years ago and I can't believe I remembered as much as I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (2UnvF)

Whatta team! *highfive*

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (6wpGE)

121 I would welcome the sun wiping us out, at least the global warming crowd would STFU

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:45 PM (qEb4U)

122 I recall my first job out of college (actually started in my last semester). They provided a very nice 1985 two tone Ford XLT pick-up with electric windows even!

My daily routine included getting off work, stopping at the local pac-n-sac and getting two, count 'em two, Stellas for my drive home from near Hobby airport to Meyerland in Houston.

That was totally legal in those days.

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 03:45 PM (8uzBS)

123 Stella in Europe is a thing of beauty, but here it's dreck. And it's loaded with preservatives, I think of the HFC variety, to make it shelf stable. Hubs liked it occasionally but it sent his gout into another solar system. No bueno.

Posted by: Effie Perrine at June 21, 2026 03:46 PM (p1D+n)

124 OT- u like the awful obituary for the actress from Alf who had a burning hatred for Trump, politics first even seem to be mentioned I. This obit. It's for James Burrows who directed "Cheers", Mary Tyler Moore show and other sit coms:

"But beyond his remarkable achievements, Burrows will be remembered for something even greater: his kindness, generosity, and unwavering belief in the people around him,” his family said in its statement. “He possessed a rare ability to make everyone better and was known for remembering every person he met by name, making colleagues at every level feel seen, valued, and appreciated"

Sounds like a very nice guy Full story at Legal Insurrection" site.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:46 PM (looXz)

125 FWP: I guess my landlord finally got tired of seeing all of the shit piling up in my yard and decided to get me a permit for the local dumping yard and landfill. I ain't paying to dump that stuff get me a county permit.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (fkjGs)

126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)

127 Insert:
Lauren Sanchez swaps sultry dresses for leggings as she flaunts her all-natural beauty in rare glam-free photo in honor of Father's Day
_DM

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (iLKq8)

128 KTVU
@KTVU
A decline in car break-ins across Oakland is being welcomed as a public safety win, but it is also contributing to a downturn for some local auto glass repair businesses.

Next report:
A decline in street gang murders is contributing to a downturn in mortuary businesses and the layoff of several grave diggers.

Film at 11

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (MNCvZ)

129 Sorry, typos . Politics doesn't even seem
To to be metioned.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 03:48 PM (looXz)

130 I would welcome the sun wiping us out, at least the global warming crowd would STFU
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:45 PM (qEb4U)


I get it ... but Fuck No. I just enjoy the idea of things getting a little less easy.

Because that is all it will take.

And then you'll see certain folks here pissing and moaning. But not for long. Because their ability to emote online will just stop.

And then I'll like that much more. I'm like that.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 03:48 PM (P5MQi)

131 126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)


This is MAGA Country!

Posted by: What the Chicago birds are saying at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (PiwSw)

132 126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)

They're coming home to roost.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (6wpGE)

133 What's a 'queef' … ? (asking for a friend …

Posted by: Dr_No at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (ayRl+)

134 It would be nice to have a set of beer chalices without the Stella logo on them, in my opinion.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (EI0rs)

135 Been decades, but found German beer here and there a world of different

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (qEb4U)

136 Tower of All Caps Comments. Behold the SCOAMF South Side Shit Hole.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (b84UO)

137 132 126 I read they are having trouble with birds roosting on the letters and crapping.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 03:05 PM (PV+Zw)
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This, too, is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:47 PM (amcLV)

They're coming home to roost.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (6wpGE)

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Nice!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2026 03:49 PM (PiwSw)

138 120 119 pickles, onions
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (6wpGE)

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I almost went back and changed it but I figured I had a 50/50 shot. Plus, it was fifty some odd years ago and I can't believe I remembered as much as I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (2UnvF)

Whatta team! *highfive*
Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:44 PM (6wpGE)
You've convinced me to take Mrs. E to McDonalds for supper.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:51 PM (LHPAg)

139 You've convinced me to take Mrs. E to McDonalds for supper.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 03:51 PM (LHPAg)
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Hot apple pies return in 2 days.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (amcLV)

140 57, 106> Random drinkware in cupboard.

No collection of eclectic cups is complete without the indestructible dark red Pizza Hut tumbler.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (a4flb)

141 I'll see your 'Stella' and raise you a Falstaff Goblet … which was also used to serve root beer at Frostop …
Posted by: Dr_No

I'd never heard of this so had to look it up. You can get it in a some hardware stores, and there are even a few drive-ins remaining:
https://frostop.com/drive-in
Posted by: Helena Handbasket


Somewhere, a manufacturer of Black hair-care products wants a trademark battle.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (VHUov)

142 FWP here… gotta actually do some work next week.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 03:52 PM (3Ope8)

143 On Father's Day, happiness is your oldest son sending this link:

https://shorturl.at/1Iv6s

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 03:56 PM (kOluj)

144 I saw apple pies are back, use to love them

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:56 PM (qEb4U)

145 What's a 'queef' … ? (asking for a friend …

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 03:57 PM (Kt19C)

146 a queef is a pussy fart

Posted by: DanMan at June 21, 2026 04:00 PM (8uzBS)

147 This is actually funny since myself and the SIL just did a cleanout of the liquor cabinet today. Ok, the the SIL did the cleanout while I "supervised". A lot of "one-off" glasses got relegated to the bin. A couple bottles (nearly empty) also got tossed. One or two (nearly empty) bottles got,...umm,...emptied and relegated. Nice Father's Day afternoon.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 21, 2026 04:01 PM (7kJyR)

148 Get cleaned up and upstairs
FOODIE NOODIE TIME

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 04:02 PM (qEb4U)

149 Stella Artois is brewed by AB Inbev of Belgium, who is also the parent of Anheuiser-Busch - the maker of Bud Light. Since I have never cared for Anheuiser-Busch beers, and therefore don't drink Budweiser, I was unable to participate in the Bud Light boycott. So I stopped drinking Stella Artois as a kind of vicarious boycott.

Just in case you need an excuse to trash a perfectly usable glass.

Posted by: b at June 21, 2026 04:04 PM (bufu1)

150 Stella Artois makes me phlegmish.


So do Brussel Sprouts and Belgian Waffles. Go figure.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 21, 2026 04:59 PM (1vOUV)

151 My daily routine included getting off work, stopping at the local pac-n-sac and getting two, count 'em two, Stellas for my drive home from near Hobby airport to Meyerland in Houston.

That was totally legal in those days.
Posted by: DanMan
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For years, my daily routine when heading home from work was to stop and buy a beer to drink on the way. Never thought a thing about it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2026 06:18 PM (XeU6L)

152 Afternoon.

I got a couple of Crown Royal glasses. They're okay. They're quite good at holding whiskey before I put it down my gullet.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 21, 2026 06:27 PM (b4s65)

Another mRNA Vaccine? Really?

The science of vaccines and the resulting public health miracles are one of the glories of Western Civilization. We eradicated Small Pox, have marvelous vaccines for Rabies, Tetanus, Diphtheria, and a slew of childhood diseases that can be dangerous like Pertusis (Whooping Cough), Mumps, and Measles.

But the arrogance of the government medical establishment, coupled with good old grifting conspired to create a "modern" vaccine for a manufactured disease that has destroyed the trust that most Americans had for the once-vaunted FDA and its offshoots, and the medical establishment that carried its water during the catastrophically destructive COVID fiasco.

They created a disease, they lied about its origins, they used it to destroy our civil liberties and manipulate the country to be more compliant, and perhaps worst of all, they sabotaged possible treatments to favor their dangerous and expensive vaccine and treatments.

So why should the American people think that all of those failings have magically disappeared, and the new and improved FDA/Pharma/Deep State is any more invested in the health and well being of America?

FDA Advisers Recommend Approving First mRNA Influenza Vaccine

The Food and Drug Administration should approve the first messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccine for influenza, the agency’s vaccine advisory panel said on June 18.

The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee in a unanimous vote advised the FDA to approve an mRNA flu shot from Moderna for adults aged 50 and older.


The same mRNA technology that is implicated in some serious side effects? The same mRNA technology that was used to create the COVID vaccine that was famously awful? And all for a disease that has shifting antigens that are very difficult to identify quickly enough to create an effective vaccine? The flu vaccine works adequately, but it is by no means impressive, and the mRNA vaccine won't change that, so why risk the documented side effects of an mRNA vaccine when the traditional vaccine is safe?

Oh. Look! Money!

“The presented data do indicate efficacy against flu with no safety signals,” Dr. Hana El Sahly, a professor at the Baylor College of Medicine and committee member who worked on a trial for Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine, said after the vote.

First of all, this harridan should have never been allowed on the committee because she has a clear conflict of interest in making mRNA vaccines mainstream. Second, she is a liar. Their own data show a higher risk of complications, but she uses typical biomedical weasel-words to avoid admitting that..."no safety signals?" what the f*ck does that mean?

Traditional vaccines work wonderfully. Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 Gokd afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)

2
g'early afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 21, 2026 12:03 PM (AMvSw)

3 .
"They" just did "it" wrong before. It'll work this time.

Posted by: Marooned at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (kt8QE)

4 Profits must be down at Big Pharma.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (jehhT)

5 Howdy, CBD! Hope you've been able to live down the slanderous labelings of the NoVaMoMe Morons...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:05 PM (kOluj)

6 To me they shot themselves in the foot, so don't cry to me on common sence gun control.
Ihave serious doubts about any vaccinations anymore.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:05 PM (Ia/+0)

7 Step one: Create new disease!
Step two: Offer a radical new cure!
Step three: Profit! $$$

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 12:07 PM (gnNyN)

8 Also, spot-on assessment. Pineapple proctology is better treatment than these lying whores deserve.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:08 PM (kOluj)

9 I spent my adult life running the inoculation gauntlet (sometimes literally, with two lines of corpsmen jabbing me right and left like it was an initiation rite) and getting the annual flu shot. I loved in high density areas and traveled to exotic locales.

Now that I live the life of a suburban hermit I see little need, and shrug it all off.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 12:09 PM (kpS4V)

10 for adults aged 50 and older.

... I see they do have a plan to make Social Security solvent

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2026 12:10 PM (O7XEN)

11 Lived, not loved! Ha!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (kpS4V)

12 I AM NOT A PIN CUSHION !!!!!

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (IY9No)

13 >>> 3 .
"They" just did "it" wrong before. It'll work this time.
Posted by: Marooned at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (kt8QE)

We have the Right People In Charge!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (R+iUD)

14 That is quite the image for the man once portrayed as America’s scientific hero.

By Inauguration Day morning, Fauci and his legal team reportedly had their eyes locked on one goal: getting that pardon signed, sealed, and safely accepted.

Martin confirmed that the pardons were being pumped out by autopen rather than Joe Biden himself.

He explained that, legally speaking, the presidential pardon power is near absolute.

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (O7XEN)

15 My wife passed away last year after a brief illness. Up until then, she was healthy as a horse. Cause of death was Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura (TTP). Duration from onset of symptoms to death was about three months.

Now, I'm reading that there have been individual case reports along with studies finding a link between TTP and the mRNA vaccines.

Covid didn't kill my wife, but the vaccine may have.

Fuck Fauci.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (J4Dwc)

16 Here's the best safety signal of all: if you pick up a mainstream publication and read something like "this major publication is offering a news item based on the based on testimony of this expert, whose expertise is endorsed by another major institution of quality learing and also the government," then run for your muthahphukkin' life, brotha.

This concludes this public service announcement.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (BI5O2)

17 This will also be "Trump's Vaccine" until it isn't.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 12:14 PM (R+iUD)

18 .
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How Vaccines Work.
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Put about one centimeter cubed of liquid immune system antagonist, (AKA vaccine,) into an interstitial space of about one micron cubed in sacrificial tissue where said immune system can learn from said antagonist. Trust the science, the vaccine will not escape into the vascular and lymphatic capillaries which have been ripped apart by the overwhelming volume of antagonist.

Posted by: Marooned at June 21, 2026 12:15 PM (kt8QE)

19 If our ruling class says something is good and you should do it, it is bad and it will hurt you.

It's not they just care about their own power and don't have your best interests at heart. They actively hate you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 12:16 PM (BI5O2)

20 Step one: Create new disease!
Step two: Offer a radical new cure!
Step three: Profit! $$$
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 12:07 PM (gnNyN)

This was the plot of Mission Impossible II IIRC. Life imitated art only with no car chases or gunfights. And big Pharma made bank as the citizenry acted like the sheep they are.

Posted by: The FDA is captive. And can suck my balls. at June 21, 2026 12:16 PM (TbWk/)

21 I still remember Fauci predictig their plot to overthrow President Trump

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:18 PM (Ia/+0)

22 This was the plot of Mission Impossible II IIRC. Life imitated art only with no car chases or gunfights. And big Pharma made bank as the citizenry acted like the sheep they are.
Posted by: The FDA is captive. And can suck my balls. at June 21, 2026 12:16 PM (TbWk/)
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Yep. It's also the plot of "Mount Dragon" by Preston & Child.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 12:21 PM (gnNyN)

23 Am a pure blood. Nein to the Mrna clot shot and any injections of any kind. So far so good.Includes our children and grandchildren. Never trust medicoes again.

Posted by: kingsman at June 21, 2026 12:21 PM (ehY6c)

24 I would think this administration knows what Fauci did and why. That they apparently are not at all interested in pursuing him tells me that they believe his pardon is sound or the administration thinks he has information that would damage Trump, perhaps severely.

Any or all of that. Despite the perpetual bitching and moaning from the public to do something.

Which makes me wonder why there's been no attempted hit on the guy or a go-fund-me type effort to hire someone to do a snatch-n-grab. Despite his security crew... which for the right price would likely give him up anyway.

*shrugs* Lots of stompy feet... no action.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 12:23 PM (jehhT)

25 For all of the world's technical and medical knowledge and advancements, the Wuhan Red Death proved most people are stupid and would rub ivermectin on their assholes 3 times a day and bark at the moon while wearing their knitted masks from some hollywood celebrity if the government told them to. I wonder what ever became of those old farts who dressed up like Moon Men just to go out to eat? Hilarious.

Posted by: It Was All A Scam at June 21, 2026 12:23 PM (g7saB)

26 Afternoon everyone. Thx CBD.
Happy Father's Day to all the daddys.

Given the cover up of the VAERS data on the COVID vaccines I think approving another mRNA is juuuust a bit premature

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 21, 2026 12:24 PM (L9YhZ)

27 I did get the new, improved shingles vaccine -- but that's it. I am done with vaccines, except for tetanus when it comes due again. I am always poking myself or stepping on something weird and I've never had issues in the past -- that I know of.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 21, 2026 12:30 PM (DK5Sh)

28 If your mRNA vaccine causes blood clots in your lungs or you require a respirator, seek consultation with your medical provider before taking further boosters.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 12:30 PM (fkjGs)

29 Article at American Thinker brought up this Auto-Pen pardons. Brought up only one of the thousands he signed only 1 personally, Hunter's.. We have to be suspicious of all these signed without providence. Anyone could have got a hold of thatlike itcwas a college prank.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:31 PM (Ia/+0)

30 Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste

Posted by: YosemiteSatchmo at June 21, 2026 12:32 PM (tlMsu)

31 Trump pushed through his vaccine at warp speed
Morons applauded

Posted by: Paul at June 21, 2026 12:34 PM (cfeRq)

32 I probably should get shingles vax but as this problem they caused isn't making me run to get one.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:35 PM (Ia/+0)

33 "Step one: Create new disease!
Step two: Offer a radical new cure!
Step three: Profit! $$$" Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

It helps if between one and two, there is a 1B: Kill a bunch of people, and promote a fear campaign (led by MSM).

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:36 PM (vbXSk)

34 Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!

Unless Christ Himself comes to Earth and says that mRNA vaccines are the bomb, I shall never trust them. I'm not a research beagle.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 21, 2026 12:36 PM (ExV1e)

35 Still waiting for the Nuremburg 2.0 to expose all of this in one venue. Weird how no definitive documentary has been made. Weird.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2026 12:38 PM (diia5)

36 No thanks. Not interested

I don’t even get the traditional flu shot anymore since the covid debacle. Trust gone

BTW… I haven’t had flu since before covid

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2026 12:39 PM (26GAh)

37 Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there in the moron universe.

I called my son and wished him a Happy Father's Day, he wished the same to me.

I haven't had a government sponsored shot for anything since the 80's when a flu shot made me sick for a week. I got the pass around sickness of the week when my son was in the public education school system, got all my immunity boosters from him too.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 21, 2026 12:39 PM (Q/FnY)

38 31 But at time while it was still of unknown origin. A disease comes up and a quick cure is needed it was looking like a great accomplishment. President Trump didn't pay to have that virus brought to the country and world.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:40 PM (Ia/+0)

39 The last thing big medicine wants to do is cure people of anything. It would be like police departments wanting crime to end. Bad for business.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:40 PM (3cXW4)

40 I renewed my tetanus vax a year or so ago, though getting any shot makes me wonder what else they might try to sneak in, for my own good. Tetanus shot should be every ten years I think, had been about 30 years for me. Some say they are not necessary because odds of getting tetanus are so low ... idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (vbXSk)

41 This Baylor doc… female with middle name Mohammed? I looked up her page at Baylor… full name Hana Mohammed El Sahly…. I’m not interested in her opinion

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (26GAh)

42 I hear that there is an AI created mRNA vax uo for human trials soon. This it?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (4tsnh)

43 I recently got a new doc because I moved. At initial appointment he’s pressuring me to get shingles vax… I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 21, 2026 12:43 PM (26GAh)

44 Covid didn't kill my wife, but the vaccine may have.

Fuck Fauci.
Posted by: one hour sober at June 21, 2026 12:12 PM (J4Dwc)

My brother died from his stomach cancer. Something his doctor said would not happen. That prognosis was delivered circa 2019. Three years post COVID vax (not sure but think it was J&J), the cancer stopped responding to the chemo, and he was gone within months. He also had a sizeable blood clot in his left leg. Blood clots do not run in our family.

We argued over the wisdom of taking an experimental vaccine for a virus that seemed no worse than the flu. His information came from mainstream media, where mine came from talk radio and medical experts who were able to get their message out before getting shut down.

Fauci has accomplices. May they all burn in hell..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:43 PM (nbLIj)

45 40 I renewed my tetanus vax a year or so ago, though getting any shot makes me wonder what else they might try to sneak in, for my own good. Tetanus shot should be every ten years I think, had been about 30 years for me. Some say they are not necessary because odds of getting tetanus are so low ... idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (vbXSk)

The “experts” now say every 5-7 years.

I wonder if “experts” are paid vax companies which make more Money 5-7 vs 10.

Nah that’s just crazy conspiracy thinking. always trust the experts. And remember quadruple mask and stay 6ft apart.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:44 PM (3cXW4)

46 I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Check if there are any small or solo docs around

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:45 PM (4tsnh)

47 The obvious thing is to use all these proponents of the next mRNA vaxx for a twenty year trial--pharma execs, doctors, nurses, regulators approving them, and if they drop dead, then we have a pretty good idea whether or not the vaxx might work before releasing them on the unsuspecting public.

No one is clamoring other than Big Pharma for mRNA vaxxes when other conventional vaxxes exist and it will actually cause a lot more people to simply skip vaccines altogether due to distrust of exactly what is in the vaccine.

Own goal for the rather stupid and manipulative public health community.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 12:46 PM (E4rtv)

48 Aside from the listed negatives with mRNA vaccine(s) that were shown by COVID I personally will make every effort to avoid every taking a Moderna vaccine. Gates is probably mostly interested in sterilization as a side effect and that is not a factor from my old as dirt self; but I wouldn't put it past him and his Moderna staff to try to sneak in something that makes us old fogies more likely to die and I don't want to give them one red cent, even if I thought they had the best product at a cheaper price.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 12:47 PM (PV+Zw)

49 Some dystopian movie should have a mostly destroyed landscape with Barack's monument to himself left.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:47 PM (Ia/+0)

50
The big problem with mRNA is that flu mutates quickly and as shown in Covid,

the mRNA creates antibodies aimed at one single type of antigen target, and-

not aimed at multiple antigens like various proteins with the virus or bacteria.

It's "effectiveness" disappears within a single year.

It's a stupid way to vaccinate and needs much, much, much more testing. Probably, multiple years worth given the donkey-fucking carnival that was the covid mrna vaccine.

Do. Not. Want.

The regular flu vaccine is just fine.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 12:48 PM (iJfKG)

51 I think it'll be hard to con the rubes with another disease related operation. The pool of hardcore, mask wearing weirdos is thinning out. It's not like 2020 anymore.

Even some who took the covid operation seriously and did self isolation, perhaps without all the other horseshit, won't buy another op like it.

The next "compliance op" will be different. Probably "security" related. Run by the Democrats once they're back in power. And it'll be absolutely draconian.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 12:48 PM (jehhT)

52 Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!

Its a genetic therapy. That's why Big Pharma is so excited about it. And frankly why Big Gub is so willing to go along.

It quite literally triggers your body to alter itself to produce new responses to a stimulus. Let that sink in. Now - this may be the first real step to a cancer cure. Or many others.

And lets be real about this. Generations some of you revere rushed their kids in to be the first test subjects for the original polio vaccine.

All that said to say this - its bullshit the way the entire industry is pushing it. But that's another example of the Government / Industry alliance we have now.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (P5MQi)

53 I don't trust them not to double up on some vax you think your getting.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (Ia/+0)

54 Check if there are any small or solo docs around
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:45 PM (4tsnh)

Those are pretty much extinct. Maybe in a small town there might be some remnants of the wild ways. But generally speaking doctors are now either employees of some (often PE backed) conglomerate or if they own the practice part of a network. Either way your health is the least of thejr concerns. Visits per hour and revenue per patient is what they care about.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (3cXW4)

55 I have decided against the shingles vax, Skip.
Keeping my immune system up is my chosen approach.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:50 PM (4tsnh)

56 46 I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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All med insurance and gubmint specific payments to adminster to physicians and hospitals should be barred for drugs as well as vaccines.

It creates a bad incentive to push something nasty just for the doc to get their cash spiff.

And ban them advertising the damn stuff or refuse to let Big Pharma write off costs from that on taxes and no sidepasses to NGOs to encourage that shit.

Government in medicine and food has basically shit in its nest as far as believability because the political process is not the way you want to figure out treatments nor diet. They do bad enough just dealing with welfare.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv)

57 You wanna see how insane the discussion with the left has gotten?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/
jfoum/forums/show/39.page

Posted by: Jeff at June 21, 2026 12:51 PM (wEnou)

58 I may find another doc. Don’t like being pressured
Posted by: LinusVanPelt


Just tell Doc Idiot that you have already had the shingles shot.

Posted by: Never Trust Them at June 21, 2026 12:51 PM (g7saB)

59 My longtime family dr is a solo practice. She scrapes by, great family dr, and I love her despite her being a lib.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:53 PM (4tsnh)

60 You wanna see how insane the discussion with the left has gotten?

That link doesn't work for me, but I saw on Fox this morning that there's an official, funded Antifa operation to fill the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool with algae because Trump cleaned it.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:54 PM (QZThv)

61 Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2026 12:41 PM (vbXSk)

I got a tetanus shot about 6 years ago. Shortly before the "get the clot shot mania" The HMO gave me some combo that included Pertussis. Bit of a sore arm for a couple days was my only side effect but I was not thrilled at them sneaking in that Pertussis when I agreed to get a tetanus vaccine. I'll probably wait until the next time I get a puncture wound to get another tetanus shot, however long that is. Hopefully I haven't jinxed myself.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 12:54 PM (PV+Zw)

62 Speaking of retarded decision switch the left…

On Reddit there was a post by someone saying something like look how well of Europeans are they can take 6 weeks vacation to go to the World Cup. But in America everyone takes only a week vacation because it’s all they can afford. This was triggered by reports of how Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK.

Meanwhile there are a gazillions posts how the wild cup is so expensive nobody from Europe can afford to go. Also a lot of talk how Trump and his Gestapo ICE has scared foreigners from attending.

It’s crazy how they’ll say the exact opposite thing in the same breath and not skip a beat.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (3cXW4)

63 lol, oh hell no.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (VyBeY)

64 Algae antifa should be charged with bio terrorism

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (hLhMb)

65 Its nothing new FWIW. In the 60s ? Psych meds. Doctors loved to prescribe psych meds.

Folks - what you're getting over is the credentialism that has been a hallmark of both parties. Republicans love Doctors and Cops. Democrats love Professors and Lawyers.

I'll just focus on this topic. Just because he or she is a Doctor ? Really no more trustworthy than any other contractor. Because that's all they are.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 12:57 PM (P5MQi)

66 Even during the hight of forcing the vax on people the lackof public service announcement of harmful effects was missing.
No If you take the Fake Vax, diarrhea, high blood pressure and clots could occur, stop.taking the Fake Vax if these symptoms occur.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:57 PM (Ia/+0)

67 >>>Trump pushed through his vaccine at warp speed
Morons applauded

Posted by: Paul

>Trump created the logistics to provide Fauci's vaccine. Did you see Trump in the lab personally mixing up a witches brew?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 12:58 PM (fkjGs)

68 I worked in a California school district throughout the lockdowns. It was decided the elementary and middle schools could open, and it was depressing to walk those campuses and see masked children getting hectored by hysterical adults to keep apart, and pull their masks up. The end section to "Another Brick in the Wall" kept looping through my brain - "Go on, do it again.."

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:58 PM (nbLIj)

69 Frankly I don't understand why even under the senile pervert the parks folks did not routinely add algaecide to the reflecting pool. Was there some tree hugger push that the reflecting pool needed to be like a natural pond with algae and frogs and fish etc?

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 12:59 PM (PV+Zw)

70 I had mild hypertension pre-Vax. Post J&J vax its a lot worse; need 4 meds now. Coincidental maybe.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 01:00 PM (hLhMb)

71 Trump created the logistics to provide Fauci's vaccine. Did you see Trump in the lab personally mixing up a witches brew?

No. But lets call it what it was. Trump was out front and center bitching at DeSantis for opening up FLA too soon. Trump - being what he is - put Fauci and Scarves front and center and whatever panic porn they told him was the gospel.

Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

He was publicly pissed that Big Pharma didn't announce them soon enough in the campaign cycle.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)

72 Exactly one year after my 2nd Moderna shot when testing opened up again a biopsy showed stage 4 liver cancer. I’m convinced the jab caused the cancer . Had lotsa treatments and it’s under control but doc says we’re playing whack a mole and it’ll get me one day. I deeply regret getting those shots, I even asked the pharmacist if he’d vaccinate the garbage can and skip giving it to me but he refused

Posted by: kelly cereal lurker at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (bn0S5)

73 We need a retard vaccine.

Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (GNqmQ)

74 Pardons do not shield perpetrators from civil liability or co-conspirators from criminal process.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (lLWPg)

75 "It’s crazy how they’ll say the exact opposite thing in the same breath and not skip a beat. "

"the issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution."

even if it's just the 24/7 psy-op of spreading FUD about anything & everything ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (VyBeY)

76 Prayers for you, Kelly Cereal

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 01:02 PM (pKd0j)

77 > ... but I saw on Fox this morning that there's an official, funded Antifa operation to fill the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool with algae because Trump cleaned it.
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Purportedly the Park Police who oversee security at the monuments and memorials in the capitol city made a couple arrests last night as some idiots tried to mess with the reflecting pool (again.) One's said to be a former Olympic kayaker.

Why we're not putting the assholes behind Antifa's funding in a box is beyond me.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:05 PM (jehhT)

78 Exactly one year after my 2nd Moderna shot when testing opened up again a biopsy showed stage 4 liver cancer. I’m convinced the jab caused the cancer.

And your conclusion is not impossible. Firstly - I wish you well and hope things are moving in the right direction.

Those of us that took it - and I took the original J&J - took a test genetic therapy. No two ways around it.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (P5MQi)

79 Well, maybe it is happening.

@LeadingReport 7m
UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer to resign, per POTUS.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (diia5)

80 Trump was taking advice from the most wicked authorities who. wanted to close the country

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (Ia/+0)

81 won't buy another op like it.
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Most people didn't buy the first op. That's not the point. Government says "this is the op and between us and Karen, you're going to comply, or else."

It's not about people believing the lie. It's the opposite. The sillier the lie the better.

"This outbreak of mild skin rashes will extinguish the sun unless you superglue your testicles to your taint. Until we reach 89% ultratucking saturation, nobody gets to leave the house. Also, pants are now illegal. We're all in this together. Register at gluedeeznuts.com for your free tube of Cyanoacrylate Solidarity Adhesive brought to you by Pfizer and the Ad Council."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:07 PM (BI5O2)

82 Trump was taking advice from the most wicked authorities who. wanted to close the country
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:06 PM (Ia/+0)


Yes. He was. Which does not absolve him in the slightest. The buck stopped with him.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (P5MQi)

83 It’s crazy how they’ll say the exact opposite thing in the same breath and not skip a beat.

Posted by: Heroq

Well, Reddit. But I have seen the video of the young woman ticking off her expenses to the tune of $55k and six weeks off. Definitely reminded me of the Coachellla influencers, so I'm going to guess that's her job, or she has rich parents. Maybe both.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (yFLFB)

84 Meanwhile there are a gazillions posts how the wild cup is so expensive nobody from Europe can afford to go. Also a lot of talk how Trump and his Gestapo ICE has scared foreigners from attending.

The funniest I've seen yet is mass Bluesky REEEEEEE because a World Cup tourist was going on about flavored ice at Sonic. The female (of course) spokesthey/them said "Please don't use the word 'ice', we're going through some things here".

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (QZThv)

85 I was lucky, my work let me apply for, and approved, religious exemption for the clot shot. And at that they wanted to know "how will you keep co-workers safe?". During the period when they were strongly encouraging WFH, and folks had to schedule to be in office because they were keeping occupancy at no more than 25%, and then 50% and I was one of the folks who had zero interest in commuting to be in the office.

My riding buddy was "but you are not very religious" But I do identify as christian, and I have read the bible, and since it was all online its not like I had to have memorized chapter and verse for listing why I felt that getting the shot would violate my religious beliefs.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (PV+Zw)

86 Good morning, glad I got here in time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:09 PM (iLKq8)

87 Why we're not putting the assholes behind Antifa's funding in a box is beyond me.

Scott Bessent said a few weeks ago that they were going to start doing that. I realize nothing in FedGov is as fast as we'd like, but now would be an excellent time.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 01:09 PM (QZThv)

88 Trump was taking advice from the most wicked authorities who. wanted to close the country

It was the ideal op to tie up a famously germophobic President, never mind someone old enough to still think experts know anything.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 01:11 PM (QZThv)

89 I don't even get the regular flu shot. I rarely get sick (and when I do, it's either 'just a bit under the weather' or several days too sick to leave the house). I shan't be taking this concoction and I'm currently unlikely to take the shingles vax when I get to that age either. I know the MMR and DPT _were_ relatively safe - a messed up kid like me survived 'em - but... are they still?

Posted by: RandomDave at June 21, 2026 01:13 PM (aJQbY)

90 Why we're not putting the assholes behind Antifa's funding in a box is beyond me.

Why isn't the SPLC getting raided right now ? Why does NAMBLA still have a public address ? And on and on and on.

It was brought up, by all places, on Fox Sports Radio a few days ago. Not a new idea. But I was surprised shit as superficial and sports media figured it out.

Because Consequences just don't happen anymore. Because Standards were so subjective before that. That's why you see so many feral people - really feral, not just stupid shit like hat indoors. Shit like "lets cut out white girls eyes on the bus".

That's why you see Mr. Diversity driving 90 down a 55. Because back in the day, Johnny Law used to like to pull people over and show them the busted tail-light they didn't have until he made one.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:14 PM (P5MQi)

91 Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.
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He spent a lot of timing bragging about it in 2024 before he figured out why his crowds were booing him.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:16 PM (vSvIl)

92 And lets be real about this. Generations some of you revere rushed their kids in to be the first test subjects for the original polio vaccine.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 12:49 PM (P5MQi)

The polio vaccine was declared safe and effective in 1955, six years after the virus was successfully cultured in human tissue. We still had adults running things back then, and the thought of rushing out a product to cash in on public hysteria never even entered the minds of that generation..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 01:18 PM (nbLIj)

93 91 Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

He f'ed up... He trusted them...
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Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:18 PM (dFjQQ)

94 71 ...Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

He was publicly pissed that Big Pharma didn't announce them soon enough in the campaign cycle.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)

In hindsight - even though there were many voices both here and outside this blog that Trump was making a mistake - we could see that listening to authorities was a mistake.

That said, Trump and most of the rest of the world was acting on incomplete, imperfect information. As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy. The industrial world had, in effect, shut down. Supply chains were collapsing, and if there wasn't a way that the world could reasonably open again, secondary effects from a 'vaccine' would have been the least of our problems. The COVID shots (and I didn't take any of them) were the way the planet would have the confidence to open up again. For that alone, they were a success. Yes he made a mistake, but I don't think he has anything to be ashamed of. He never advocated forcing people to take it. It only had to exist.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:19 PM (DrlQb)

95 I wonder if this wondershot has been tested on approved subjects - the Fauci and Brix families, Members of Congress, FDA Advisors, and researchers from competing Big Pharma companies.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 01:19 PM (qx7Zg)

96 Thanks V mom and howdy it is what it is but the worst part…I’ve got 4 grandkids 10-16 yrs old and I want to live to see some grandbabbies!!

Posted by: kelly cereal lurker at June 21, 2026 01:19 PM (XRaX7)

97 Not ever getting a flu shot was my reason for not getting the Fake Vax

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:20 PM (Ia/+0)

98 "no safety signals"

Reminds me of a time I was working with vendors in China who were supposed to run regulatory testing on our device. It had been a while with no response from them, so I called them and asked if our device had passed testing.
"It hasn't failed", the guy on the other line said. Turned it it hadn't failed because it hadn't been tested. Bastards...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (l3cgK)

99 By the way Happy Fathers day to all of you Dads out there....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (dFjQQ)

100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (vSvIl)

101 99 By the way Happy Fathers day to all of you Dads out there....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (dFjQQ)

Thank you. I guess my job as a Dad doesn't end until I join my wife. LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:22 PM (l3cgK)

102 Polio terrified parents around the world for centuries. It destroyed my grandmother's leg. Of course they got the vaxx for my mom when they had the chance. Polio ruins lives, and no small number of them.

COVID didn't reap children like stalks of wheat.

It was a nasty cold.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:22 PM (BI5O2)

103 Trump did push for the clot shot but I don’t believe he ever suggested people should be forced to take it against their will.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:23 PM (3cXW4)

104 100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (vSvIl)

When a patient has cancer, the best option is to kill and remove the cancer, if possible...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:23 PM (l3cgK)

105 Until mRNA vaccines are shown to be equal to or better than traditional vaccines, in particular for diseases that by definition cannot be eradicated or whose vaccine is only marginally effective, we should be very, very suspicious!
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Don't worry, they are mandating it for your dogs.
Share and share alike.

They/ the local tyrants, mandated vets to register and tax tag every local pet. We took ours out of the city for rabies shots.
Regulators want us to buy permits for everything and their clerks want to log it.

youtube.com/watch?v=eyCuIBDjehg

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:25 PM (iLKq8)

106 Trump and the GOP’s response to the China Virus was a) print trillions of dollars and b) rush an untested vaccine to market

Then Biden/Dems doubled down on the spending and forced everyone to take the vax.

It was a shit show all around.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (3cXW4)

107 100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:21 PM (vSvIl)

And he's not wrong there, either. How soon we forget the problems that North Korea - tiny PRK - can cause the world for simply existing. Iran's actions over the last four months prove what damage they can do to the world simply by not being as isolated as PRK. I don't hear a single serious person say that there's nothing to worry about with the IRGC - even if they are saying that the threat isn't immanent.

We're not the policemen of the world, but there are some things that only we can do. Iran is a mistake that Reagan neglected to fix, and we've paid the price for that ever since. If we can fix it - and we can - there's no reason why we shouldn't try.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (DrlQb)

108 102 Polio terrified parents around the world for centuries. It destroyed my grandmother's leg. Of course they got the vaxx for my mom when they had the chance. Polio ruins lives, and no small number of them.

COVID didn't reap children like stalks of wheat.

It was a nasty cold.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:22 PM (BI5O2)

Children were basically safe from it unless they had weakened immune system or comorbidities. Folks like me and my wife, on the other hand, had comorbidities (and immunosuppression in my case), so more of an issue. I got the jab exactly 2x. I caught COVID and survived, already improving even before I got the monoclonal antibody treatment.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (l3cgK)

109 Trump fell for the Covid B.S. They did take advantage of his germaphobia. But at that, Trump thought he was cutting red tape so that high risk people could get the vaccine. It was after Nov 2020, with the Joe Bribeme admin, and the FNM who pushes commie narratives for free and other narratives when the price is right, that it became "everybody has to be vaccinated to save grandma, and/or end the masking and isolation rules ".

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (PV+Zw)

110 100 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.
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That's his excuse for Iran, too.

Posted by: Methos
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It's not an excuse it's a job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:27 PM (iLKq8)

111 I have so many tied for first place for the most punchable face. Jonah Goldberg joined the list.

The entire CNN panel agreed JD Vance was very good at interviews and responding to tough (biased) questioning. All except fat ass , low intellect , thieving Goldberg. He actually called him a liar but of course not saying what he was lying about.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:27 PM (KC5Lt)

112 I lost a 59 year-old cousin to COVID. He was obese with diabeetus...so comorbidities.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:27 PM (l3cgK)

113 Iran is a mistake that Reagan neglected to fix, and we've paid the price for that ever since. If we can fix it - and we can - there's no reason why we shouldn't try.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.

Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)

114 Next time let's elect a Doctor for President.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (IY9No)

115 109 Trump fell for the Covid B.S.
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BS, he mentioned several alternatives but was jammed by bureaucrats, regulators, and turncoats.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (iLKq8)

116 I seem to recall that during the first couple months of the covid hysteria there wasn't a clear understanding of what the thing was.... bio-engineered death bug or what. So that certainly had an influence on anyone who didn't have the inside scoop on it. And I think Fauci and his co--conspirators knew what it was and hid it to push an agenda.

Whether that agenda was theirs alone, (I tend to think not) or foreign influenced (I think it was) didn't really matter if nobody outside a handful of people knew what covid really was.

Pardon(s) or not... Fauci and his co-conspirators need to hang. But they won't.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (jehhT)

117 114 Next time let's elect a Doctor for President.

Posted by: Case
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Dr. Hotez, I hear he's great.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (iLKq8)

118 Another way to look at it is this: people will always remember Jonas Salk as a hero of medicine. They will always remember Tony Fauci as a fucking butcher.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:30 PM (BI5O2)

119 He was publicly pissed that Big Pharma didn't announce them soon enough in the campaign cycle.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)


and that is how you came to vote for Biden and Kamala Harris. I am proud how you stick to your principles no matter what they turn out to be. Only a Hero man, only a Hero.

Never swerve, and never turn away from the consequences of your decision!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

120 Salk was a butcher, too, YD

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

121 Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (jehhT)

My late January/early February, someone had performed a DNA/RNA analysis of the virus and found that it had features that could not have existed together in nature via intermixing or mutation...focus was especially on the furin cleavage site (no, not Riddick's ass). The report disappeared pretty fast. I think we now know why.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (l3cgK)

122 Salk had good press. Fauci has good press.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (iLKq8)

123 Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (DrlQb)

I meant that was his excuse for stopping the bombing.

In order to make a grand bargain to open the Strait of Hormuz.

Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)

124 117 114 Next time let's elect a Doctor for President.

Posted by: Case
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Dr. Hotez, I hear he's great.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 PM (iLKq

As an engineer I didn't work out so well, did I?

Posted by: Zombie Herbert Hoover at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (l3cgK)

125
Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)

According to Centcom it is not closed...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (dFjQQ)

126 113 Iran is a mistake that Reagan neglected to fix, and we've paid the price for that ever since. If we can fix it - and we can - there's no reason why we shouldn't try.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)

Let's assume for a moment that Trump actually is giving Iran $300B. How exactly could they possibly spend it to their ends effectively? When Obama gave Iran money, their infrastructure was completely intact, so any money they received could be funneled for max effect. We've just obliterated their military capacity. Other than paying themselves, they won't be able to utilize it before Election Day in the US. Trump, I think, doesn't care about what they do in 2027. He cares about what they do in the next four months. If he can keep Congress after Tue 3 Nov, he's bombing Iran on Thu 5 Nov if they haven't come to the table to surrender by then.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (DrlQb)

127 115: But Trump believed that covid was dangerous. Hell he used emergency powers act to get manufactours to build ventilators. He messed up and trusted or mustly trusted Fauci and the scarf lady.

I am not a commiecrat, I am okay with a president who is human and makes mistakes. IMO covid was one of Trumps mistakes in his first term. He learned from it and has been much better at not accepting traitors suggested by the DC Rs as staff and so on.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (PV+Zw)

128 Salk was a butcher, too, YD
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

How so? I had no idea. His vaccine actually worked and didn't kill thousands of people like this piece of shit... what did he do? Unethical human trials or something?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (BI5O2)

129 ...
If he can keep Congress after Tue 3 Nov, he's bombing Iran on Thu 5 Nov if they haven't come to the table to surrender by then.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (DrlQb)

Oh, we won't know the exact results for more than a month.

Posted by: Kalifornia at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (l3cgK)

130 I'm going to wait and see what Steven Colbert says about the new vaccines before I make any decisions

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (BZaww)

131 120 Salk was a butcher, too, YD
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:31 PM (rbvCR)

Salk never won the Nobel Prize for Medicine. If ever there was a shoo-in for someone to get it, it would have been him. He was such a toxic personality that he had no peers that would vouch for him getting it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (DrlQb)

132 I never thought I would agree with Trump 100% but I did and do know he is better right now than the alternatives would have been. The good has far outweighed the bad with Trump 2.0 and I'm not going to dump on him which only helps the Left. Also my disagreement with Iran is based on conjecture just as those who support it is also based on conjecture on how it will turn out.

I hope I'm wrong because no amount of criticism from me is going to change the outcome.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:36 PM (KC5Lt)

133 Trump fell for the Covid B.S. They did take advantage of his germaphobia. But at that, Trump thought he was cutting red tape so that high risk people could get the vaccine. It was after Nov 2020, with the Joe Bribeme admin, and the FNM who pushes commie narratives for free and other narratives when the price is right, that it became "everybody has to be vaccinated to save grandma, and/or end the masking and isolation rules ".

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:26 PM (PV+Zw)

Because everything with the left is a gateway. Gay marriage became you bake that fucking cake, to sex changes for 10 year olds, and tranny hour at kindergarten. They do it with everything. Oh maybe a vax to help with a small % of people who might benefit , and maybe just 2 weeks to flatten the curve became everybody get the vax or its camps for you, and yeah, the kids will be out of school for a year, our manufacturing will be fucked, and no you can't be outside alone in a frigging desert without a mask.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 21, 2026 01:37 PM (snZF9)

134 There are terms of agreement that must be met.
When they meet a term they receive a portion of their money, that is being withheld, back.
If they VIOLATE Any portion of the agreement the deal is off and Trump, 'bombs them in the head'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:37 PM (iLKq8)

135 That said, Trump and most of the rest of the world was acting on incomplete, imperfect information.

As do I. Every single damn day ending in Y. Just like everyone else.

Yet - if the calls I make turn out wrong ? Then I'm wrong. That's how it works.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:37 PM (P5MQi)

136 ...Trump did not cover himself in glory during Covid. And yes - Trump sold these shots as "the cure". To say he didn't is revisionist history.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:01 PM (P5MQi)


There is a claim out there that Putin is the hero here. He had produced the Sputnik vaxx, which was a standard old school vaccine.
The argument was that with the production of the COVID virus, and the "only effective mRNA treatment" the west could implement vaccine passports to end the spread through travel restrictions. This could have passed on to digital ID through WHO demands, and would have been transnational and inescapable.
There was a bit of that going on with the vaccine passports, up until Putin's government labs put out Sputnik and a low price that was taken up widely by the Global South at something like $10 USD per dose, and that broke the option for global adoption of the mRNA and the enforced vaccine passports under WHO which depended on that.

This is very troubling in its implications

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (rbvCR)

137 > Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)
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We're not "giving" Iran or the mullahs anything. The $300B is frozen Iranian assets.

Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (jehhT)

138 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.

And here we go. Again. Just shut up Americans. I've got the World to think about.

Is that what you want to go with ? Sure about that ?

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:39 PM (P5MQi)

139 I don't think cash is changing hands unless Iran completes certain requirements of the deal and it's going out piecemeal based on requirements.

Trump wasn't opposed to Obama's deal except that Obama gave all the money up front .

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (KC5Lt)

140 Because everything with the left is a gateway. Gay marriage became you bake that fucking cake, to sex changes for 10 year olds, and tranny hour at kindergarten. They do it with everything. Oh maybe a vax to help with a small % of people who might benefit , and maybe just 2 weeks to flatten the curve became everybody get the vax or its camps for you, and yeah, the kids will be out of school for a year, our manufacturing will be fucked, and no you can't be outside alone in a frigging desert without a mask.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Put that in a frame and nail it on the wall.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (iLKq8)

141 137 > Giving Iran’s thug dictator leaders $300B ain’t fixing shit.
Posted by: Heroq at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (3cXW4)
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We're not "giving" Iran or the mullahs anything. The $300B is frozen Iranian assets.

Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (jehhT)

Maybe we should do it Chinese style: Charge IRAN for the costs of our military and munitions used...deduct it from the frozen assets...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (l3cgK)

142 I have read that an early batch of the polio vaccine (probably Salk's?) had not sufficiently weakened the polio and the recipients actually contracted polio from the shot.

I believe to this day they still have a weakened but live polio vaccine as well as one with killed polio virus. And some docs or CDC etc encourage the weakened version to be used because it can confer some immunity to non-vaccinated kids. Never married and had kids but when I read that and was still of child bearing age I thought "well my pediatrician will be told to give my future kid the killed virus version"

Posted by: PaleRider at June 21, 2026 01:41 PM (PV+Zw)

143 140 Because everything with the left is a gateway. Gay marriage became you bake that fucking cake, to sex changes for 10 year olds, and tranny hour at kindergarten. They do it with everything. Oh maybe a vax to help with a small % of people who might benefit , and maybe just 2 weeks to flatten the curve became everybody get the vax or its camps for you, and yeah, the kids will be out of school for a year, our manufacturing will be fucked, and no you can't be outside alone in a frigging desert without a mask.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Put that in a frame and nail it on the wall.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (iLKq

Yeah...
It would be like forcing everybody to get Monkey Pox vaccines and stay masked and 6 feet apart because gays can't help shoving their meat into pustulant asses.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:42 PM (l3cgK)

144 There's no good explanation for Trump going all in on that vaccine.

Perhaps he was party to the entire scheme, which I highly doubt, given that he was the main target of a big part of it.

Or, he was a credulous fool who got rooked by people who he of all people should have seen through instantly.

Neither is satisfactory.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:42 PM (BI5O2)

145 Because everything with the left is a gateway.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


Damn it, you don't understand. Sure, Trump lived amongst the Left his entire life. But how could he possibly know they would do what they always do ? Besides - he had "imperfect information".

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (P5MQi)

146 Salk never won the Nobel Prize for Medicine. If ever there was a shoo-in for someone to get it, it would have been him. He was such a toxic personality that he had no peers that would vouch for him getting it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:35 PM (DrlQb)


Cutter labs incident probably had something to do with that

The only circulating polio strain in the developed world is the one we use for vaccinations, by the way. An uncharitable man would suggest that Polio vaccination has turned into a way to inoculate the population from the possible injuries from the vaccination itself.

But I am charitable and I am perfectly willing to listen to any explanation that resolves that question

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (rbvCR)

147 was taken up widely by the Global South at something like $10 USD per dose, and that broke the option for global adoption of the mRNA and the enforced vaccine passports under WHO which depended on that.

This is very troubling in its implications

Posted by: Kindltot
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Thought I was keeping up. What are the troubling implications?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (iLKq8)

148 According to Centcom it is not closed...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2026 01:33 PM (dFjQQ)

So what?

Iran declared it closed after their minions in Hezbollah fired on Israel, and they unsurprisingly fired back, citing language in the MoU that Trump foolishly agreed to about Lebanon. Current reporting is that no one crossed the strait overnight so as not to risk Iranian attack. So it's as closed as it has been at any point in the last three months.

I'd post a ZH link, but I can't get through to tinyurl for some reason.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (vSvIl)

149 Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)


They also want to pretend that they can close the straits at will in the face of the USN and the other gulf state's navies.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (rbvCR)

150 "imperfect information".

Posted by: Howdy

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (iLKq8)

151 We're not "giving" Iran or the mullahs anything. The $300B is frozen Iranian assets. Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

If I win $20 off you at the Poker Table ? And then I - for whatever reason - flip you a $20 chip ?

I just gave you $20. Because that money was mine the moment I took it.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (P5MQi)

152 My dog and I ran into a couple of bucks this morning hanging out next to the trail. They both had fresh-looking velvety antlers. It's unusual to see bucks hanging out together, but June is Pride Month I guess.

Posted by: $XOM Shareholder at June 21, 2026 01:45 PM (2ap+5)

153 Here's a simple question with an obvious answer:

Do you think the R & D departments in various Pharmacuetical companies are interested in outright cures, or do you think their focus is more on "medical maintenance" type treatments?

Keep in mind that actual all encompassing iINDUSTRIES have been created to address individual diseases and medical conditions. Industries require employees, who require stability and compensation. They have made a career out of finding a cure (which if found negates that career). So, medical maintenance (which provides ongoing revenue) is the focus. Cures would harm the bottom line.

Posted by: Orson at June 21, 2026 01:46 PM (dIske)

154 How so? I had no idea. His vaccine actually worked and didn't kill thousands of people like this piece of shit... what did he do? Unethical human trials or something?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (BI5O2)


Yes. The Cutter incident too. Also the standards to what polio is was changed when the vaccine came out so the stats showed a reduction in polio.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:46 PM (rbvCR)

155 138 As a leader, Trump not only had to think about the health of US citizens, but the world economy.

And here we go. Again. Just shut up Americans. I've got the World to think about.

Is that what you want to go with ? Sure about that ?
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:39 PM (P5MQi)

Don't put words in my mouth. The US is not an autarky. What happens in the world - especially with the world supply chains shut down by C-19 - affects us as well. Trump can certainly answer for what the 'vaccine' did to people here in the USA. What I wrote was if we couldn't have proper international trade flowing again, the consequences of that would have been more severe for everyone than people - even many people - getting secondary illnesses. The Great Toilet Paper Panic of 2020 would have been the least of our worries then. I stand by that assertion.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (DrlQb)

156 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 01:42 PM (BI5O2)

Trump put the search for a vaccine on the fast track and when they delivered some quickly Trump of course wanted credit and thus he was a supporter. Of course it appears he ignored all the warnings of an mRNA vax and just hung his hat on ' I got a vax quicker than anyone in history! '

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (KC5Lt)

157 The so called war is getting too crowded.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 01:48 PM (IY9No)

158 I just gave you $20. Because that money was mine the moment I took it.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:44 PM (P5MQi)


Would you like to guess the link between excluding Russia from SWIFT and the development of the BRICS?

Why would India and China think they needed an alternate international settlement system when Obama was President?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:48 PM (rbvCR)

159 I'd post a ZH link, but I can't get through to tinyurl for some reason.

Posted by: Methos
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ZH brings a lot of information but one must consider its' source, they need clicks too. Otherwise it appears that you are particularly adverse to any sourced information. At best.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:49 PM (iLKq8)

160 Do you think the R & D departments in various Pharmacuetical companies are interested in outright cures, or do you think their focus is more on "medical maintenance" type treatments?

The only one interested in your individual health is you. Big Pharma wants to sell you a product - same as everyone else.

At least Big HVAC produces tangible results. You want to be cool or warm ? They sell a solution. They're more honest that Big Auto - which seems dead set on telling you how you should enjoy driving instead of just giving you want you want to drive.

Big Health (doctors and pharma) baffle me - with how older than me folks treat them. "My doctor said I have to do X".

Every thought about telling your doctor to go fuck himself ? He works for you, after all. He should not "make" you do anything. He's a consultant.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:49 PM (P5MQi)

161 Sure, the US froze them, but they're originally Iran's funds. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:38 PM (jehhT)

Maybe we should do it Chinese style: Charge IRAN for the costs of our military and munitions used...deduct it from the frozen assets...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 01:40 PM (l3cgK)

It wasn't that long ago that Bessent was proposing to use the funds to repair damage down by Iran's "drone everybody" approach to the war.

In any case it's funds that Iran didn't have three weeks ago that are potentially being given.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:50 PM (vSvIl)

162 Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (DrlQ

Pick your poison. I'd rather the US say okay we have shortages . We are going to start manufacturing these products ourself though we may have short term pain. We're Americans.Suck it up and get to work. (. Also American capitalists there is money to be made)

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:50 PM (KC5Lt)

163 Thought I was keeping up. What are the troubling implications?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:43 PM (iLKq


Maybe that Putin is more dimensioned that some Evil Hun meme generated for WWI?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (rbvCR)

164 Why would India and China think they needed an alternate international settlement system when Obama was President?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:48 PM (rbvCR)


I know that answer. Because "The Dollar" is just fiat currency now as well. No better than anyone else.

On this - I get it. If I'm "not" in the United States ? Wouldn't want to trade on the dollar globally either. Its not like we're an honest broker of currency anymore. We are not.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (P5MQi)

165 Which is closed again. Because the Iranian regime is what it is no matter how much anyone wants to pretend that they can be bribed into civility.
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:32 PM (vSvIl)

SoH is open and traffic is freely passing. The IRGC is just throwing more bullshit into the air.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (g8Ew8)

166 According to Grok, she is compromised already and should have recused herself.

"Dr. Hana El Sahly recused herself from reviewing COVID-19 vaccines for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in September 2020 due to a potential conflict of interest. As the chairwoman of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, she stepped aside because she was simultaneously serving as a lead investigator for Moderna Inc.'s late-stage COVID-19 vaccine trial."

The grift goes on...

Posted by: SL at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (aFtqG)

167 Dr. Hana El Sahly. A muslim? Reason enough right there to distrust her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (1z8ji)

168 > There's no good explanation for Trump going all in on that vaccine.
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It was speculated at the time that Trump was a bit of a germaphobe and Fauci played to that weakness. Probably told Trump a "worst case scenario" that was totally fictitious. And because Fauci was in bed with the various US intelligence agencies, those entities confirmed what the CDC and Fauci was telling him.

"Speculation" But to a certain degree, makes sense.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (jehhT)

169 And the thing that pisses me off is it seems we still haven't learned our lesson and products that are a national security issue still aren't made here or have a supply until it can be.

Screw Just In Time Inventory

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (KC5Lt)

170 162 Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:47 PM (DrlQ

Pick your poison. I'd rather the US say okay we have shortages . We are going to start manufacturing these products ourself though we may have short term pain. We're Americans.Suck it up and get to work. (. Also American capitalists there is money to be made)
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:50 PM (KC5Lt)

That is an absolutely fair critique of my argument. And I think that in the longer term, you're right - a move towards self-sufficiency helps us greatly. Trump's reshoring efforts are one way to get us there. What I would say is that it's one thing to run on that goal and get people to vote for it, and another thing to back them into a corner in the middle of a crisis - and the 2020 election - and push that policy. Reasonable people can disagree. I don't think that Trump 1.0 had the ability - and certainly not the political capital in 2020 - to do what you suggest back then.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (DrlQb)

171 Screw Just In Time Inventory

You are really going to be pissed when you discover Six Sigma.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (P5MQi)

172 On this - I get it. If I'm "not" in the United States ? Wouldn't want to trade on the dollar globally either. Its not like we're an honest broker of currency anymore. We are not.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (P5MQi)


Which is why you are supporting Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez. I celebrate your dedication to an economic concept, even though it has failed continually.
I am certain that the City of London banks appreciate your support.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (rbvCR)

173 Going over to my parents little later, my sister is meeting us with dinner

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:56 PM (Ia/+0)

174 ZH brings a lot of information but one must consider its' source, they need clicks too. Otherwise it appears that you are particularly adverse to any sourced information. At best.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:49 PM (iLKq

The source was a site that monitor the transponders of traffic through the strait, and there wasn't any overnight.

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:56 PM (vSvIl)

175 I don't think that Trump 1.0 had the ability - and certainly not the political capital in 2020 - to do what you suggest back then.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (DrlQb)


And my kid - at 12 - didn't have the ability to drive a car. But if he took the keys and knocked the shit out of the fenders ?

"Well ... he's learning" is not an excuse. Trump wasn't drafted into the job. He wanted the job. All the heat for all the mistakes is justified.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:57 PM (P5MQi)

176 Posted by: SL at June 21, 2026 01:52 PM (aFtqG)

They bypassed the vaccine review board and authorized its emergency use. The majority on that board would not have approved it thus the reason they were bypassed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:57 PM (KC5Lt)

177 Sanford in court:
Deys enuf niggers in here to make a Tarzan movie!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Kt19C)

178 If I would have been President, and the likes of career medical authorities told me to do stuff, good chance i would do what they suggest

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Ia/+0)

179 What I wrote was if we couldn't have proper international trade flowing again, the consequences of that would have been more severe for everyone than people - even many people - getting secondary illnesses
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Can we put a pin in that thought for when we celebrate America's "independence" in two weeks?

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 01:59 PM (vSvIl)

180 Well ... he's learning" is not an excuse. Trump wasn't drafted into the job. He wanted the job. All the heat for all the mistakes is justified.
Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 01:57 PM (P5MQi)

I'm sure you could have done so much better under the same circumstances.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 01:59 PM (g8Ew8)

181 If I would have been President, and the likes of career medical authorities told me to do stuff, good chance i would do what they suggest
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Ia/+0)

Not me.

Government scientists are proven liars, and they were long before this particular shitshow. They lie the paint off the walls. No sale.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (BI5O2)

182 I asked my doc about getting a Tetantus booster. He said it's not needed. Only immigrants that never had one need it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (qFwJc)

183 It baffels me that few see how roped in Trump was.
That anything he did would have been used against him.

The unused hospital ship in NY.
The recommendation for, brain fog on the anti-virans he was given) remember he caught Covid early on was given treatment and recommended it highly.
It was pulled from use.
They gagged Trump and beat him up on the whole thing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (iLKq8)

184 Which is why you are supporting Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 01:55 PM (rbvCR)


And that's twice. What clever point do you think you are making ? The "well, its my guy so he's perfect" argument ?

Voted Trump three times. Pretty sure I picked the winner all three. But he fucked up Covid.

And he's fucking up Iran in spades. If he was eligible again ? I'd go Heavy D or Vance for starters.

The old man has passed his expiration date.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:00 PM (P5MQi)

185 Screw Just In Time Inventory
Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 01:53 PM (KC5Lt)


it is an attempt to create efficiency in the supply chain, and creates fragility as well.
It is also created by tax authorities, where any stock you have on hand is actually taxed, just like the capital equipment and the office furniture. There is also the problem that Just In Time also means companies are running on borrowed money, and the banks don't like to see extra inventory and the financials hate paying interest on money borrowed to buy stock that just sits around. That will have to be resolved before we get much more reserves built up in manufacturers.

I worked for a welding shop that did manufacturing on the side, and the boss was always on me for keeping too much hardware on hand, and of course if we were out of fasteners we couldn't get equipment out the door and get paid for it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (rbvCR)

186 I would have been President, and the likes of career medical authorities told me to do stuff, good chance i would do what they suggest
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 01:58 PM (Ia/+0)

If one would have taken the time to review the history of those experts. Especially the British guy who came up with the Covid mortality model, you would have seen so many red flags you would have dismissed them.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (KC5Lt)

187 I'm sure you could have done so much better under the same circumstances.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 01:59 PM (g8Ew


Most of us could. A simple "No - that's bullshit" would have sufficed.

Many - in real time - were calling bullshit every day. Including here.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (P5MQi)

188 BEER CALL NOOD
or 1ST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (Ia/+0)

189 They created a disease, they lied about its origins, they used it to destroy our civil liberties and manipulate the country to be more compliant, and perhaps worst of all, they sabotaged possible treatments to favor their dangerous and expensive vaccine and treatments.
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And years later, still no hangings.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (6h45X)

190 Multi-Clonal Antibodies is the treatment Trump received.
Recommended it for everyone, said, 'it made me feel ten years younger'. They shut him down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (iLKq8)

191 I'm sure Dr.Jill could solve all our problems.

Posted by: Case at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (IY9No)

192 Algae antifa should be charged with bio terrorism
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:55 PM (hLhMb)

Bind them hand and foot, and throw them face-down into the Reflecting Pool so they can reflect upon their sins. Until they drown.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 02:03 PM (1z8ji)

193 Screw Just In Time Inventory

You are really going to be pissed when you discover Six Sigma.
Posted by: Howdy
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You people aren't Team players. It's as if you are opposed to Quality Circles.

Posted by: W. Edwards Deming at June 21, 2026 02:04 PM (XeU6L)

194 Government scientists are proven liars, and they were long before this particular shitshow. They lie the paint off the walls. No sale.

Its like the Tuskegee Experiments never happened.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:04 PM (P5MQi)

195 Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:01 PM (rbvCR

I see JITI as all or nothing solution. It concentrates too much on the present without any consideration of the consequences of the future. It's a solution built on a model . Models will disappoint you in the real world.

I do think there is a compromise and tax solution.

Posted by: polynikes at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (KC5Lt)

196 And he's fucking up Iran in spades. If he was eligible again ? I'd go Heavy D or Vance for starters.
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That's an interesting statement, given that what reporting I've seen is that Vance is leading the weak on Iran side of the administration (and his public statements seem to support that).

Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (vSvIl)

197 >>>And he's fucking up Iran in spades. If he was eligible again ? I'd go Heavy D or Vance for starters.

You are an underappreciated genius for international affairs on creating peace. Why are you here, and not banging on Rubio's door?

Certainly you are not here to just make people fight with you, since that would prove you a hypocrite.

(secret to arguments versus fights: arguments are for exploring options to discover solutions to conflict. Fights are to hurt the opponent so badly they run away or give up)

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:06 PM (rbvCR)

198 You people aren't Team players. It's as if you are opposed to Quality Circles.
Posted by: W. Edwards Deming at June 21, 2026 02:04 PM (XeU6L)


Who-ever you are - and I hope you sock off - you get it.

I'm 54. There's a manufacturing fad about once a decade. The Six Sigma shit was awful because Excel happened about the same time.

All these stupid fucking managers ... measuring shit wrong and then putting that dumb data into spreadsheets. Then buying Statistical Methods books and trying to apply that.

Get this ... real processes don't follow a Bell Curve. Not one bit.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (P5MQi)

199 A Federal pardon doesn’t apply to state crimes. Get Fauci (and Birx, and a slew of others) at the state level, the way NYS did Trump.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:07 PM (ZVgZ4)

200 Have we forgotten Mrs. Fauci (aka Christine Grady)

"Christine Grady is the chief of the Department of Bioethics at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and she is married to Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is a prominent immunologist and former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2026 02:08 PM (XeU6L)

201 That's an interesting statement, given that what reporting I've seen is that Vance is leading the weak on Iran side of the administration (and his public statements seem to support that).
Posted by: Methos at June 21, 2026 02:05 PM (vSvIl)


The best thing about Trump / Vance is that Trump is the bad cop. But I'm convinced that's not a choreographed move. Trump is just an attention-hungry old man amplifying his attention-hungry as he gets more old.

I think Vance is effective. We'll see if he can shake off the Trump in '28.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:09 PM (P5MQi)

202 Interesting post CBD.

A lot could be said on the topic, some of which might be illuminating. Probably would require an in-person conversation after a good meal, with an adult beverage in hand watching a mountain sunset.. Not so much on a forum such as this. So I shall defer.

I appreciate your efforts on this topic the last few years..

Cheers!

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 21, 2026 02:10 PM (I0N4X)

203 You are an underappreciated genius for international affairs on creating peace. Why are you here, and not banging on Rubio's door?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 21, 2026 02:06 PM (rbvCR)


And here we go. Have you ever built a car - from raw metal shapes - in your garage ? I haven't.

So then I can't comment on the difference between a Yugo and a BMW. Or note the flaws in each. After all - I've never built a sedan from the ground up.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:11 PM (P5MQi)

204 A lot of natural processes do follow a roughly Gaussian curve (not so much for small numbers: that’s when to use Student’s t-distribution) that’s why it’s used so much. But not all distributions are Gaussian. Use the statistics that fit the case.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:12 PM (ZVgZ4)

205 A lot of natural processes do follow a roughly Gaussian curve (not so much for small numbers: that’s when to use Student’s t-distribution) that’s why it’s used so much. But not all distributions are Gaussian. Use the statistics that fit the case.

Manufacturing processes do not at all. Not one bit. Because they are not random in the slightest.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:13 PM (P5MQi)

206 And years later, still no hangings.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 02:02 PM (6h45X)


That’s why they are trying to do it again.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:15 PM (ZVgZ4)

207 202 Interesting post CBD.

A lot could be said on the topic, some of which might be illuminating. Probably would require an in-person conversation after a good meal, with an adult beverage in hand watching a mountain sunset.. Not so much on a forum such as this. So I shall defer.

I appreciate your efforts on this topic the last few years..

Cheers!
Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 21, 2026 02:10 PM (I0N4X)

Too true, Muldoon. I really need to get myself to a MoMe soon.

Thanks, CBD!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 21, 2026 02:15 PM (DrlQb)

208 I think we are talking at cross purposes and mean different things by words like errors. If you are machining something to a certain length, you will find with more precise instruments, and more accurate measurements, that the deviations from that length do follow well known distributions. Perhaps by “error” you mean they forgot to galvanize the part after cutting it or the like. We would not be using the word “error” in the same way.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 21, 2026 02:24 PM (ZVgZ4)

209 As a septuagenarian, I am urged by my doc to get the RSV vaccine, said to reduce the chances of a hospital stay with a lung infection. I am highly skeptical of any vax after the COVID fraud, and he knows I will never take any shot for that ailment. But I did look into the RSV.

I found that there are three on offer, GSX makes a traditional type RSV vax, as does Pfizer [spit], but lo! behold Moderna's RSV vax, in all its mRNA glory. No way.

So maybe the GSK one? I look into the efficacy of these vaccines and learn that in one year after the shot, chances of hospitalization appear to be about 4 in 10, so roughly 60% effective; after two years, odds drop to 6 in 10, or 40% effective. No boosters recommended.

I am not sure this is worth whatever risks there may be. The blurbs of course only refer to soreness around the injection site, but who knows? Think I'll take my chances for the time being.

YMMD

Posted by: Fritz at June 21, 2026 02:28 PM (J7jo9)

210 GSX = GSK

Posted by: Fritz at June 21, 2026 02:30 PM (J7jo9)

211 Perhaps by “error” you mean they forgot to galvanize the part after cutting it or the like. We would not be using the word “error” in the same way.

We are using it in the EXACT same way. I understand all that. And as such, I'm telling you why Six Sigma ... and a lot of other probability and statistics as applied to industry ... is simply fucking wrong.

The same as AI is the next fad. But you have to have lived through some of these fads to understand the next one.

The "deviations" ... and what you are talking about regarding measurements that fine ... are noise. Because no industrial instrument - no instruments, really - are absolute. They all have error.

And nobody is recording those errors to the resolution which is random. But this is great - because we're back to one of the arguments I always had with the "science crowd" here.

All real life data is anecdotal.

Posted by: Howdy at June 21, 2026 02:31 PM (P5MQi)

212 I am going to go out on a limb here. I asked an A.I. about her faith. Opaque would best describe the reply. Then, I asked about her hubby, because no self respecting Muslim would marry an infidel... So, the Doctor's husband, Dr. Fady Joudah:

Cultural Heritage: He is the son of Palestinian refugee parents and grew up in Libya and Saudi Arabia.
Literary Work: His poetry and translations deeply engage with Islamic narratives, Sufi mysticism, and the Quran. He frequently references Islamic concepts (such as Barzakh and the story of the Prophet Muhammad in the cave) and cites Islamic scholars like Ibn Arabi.
Self-Identification in Context: In interviews, he discusses the experience of being an Arab Muslim in the West and the lack of Islamic narratives in Western literature, often speaking from an insider's perspective on these traditions.
Evidence regarding Dr. Hana El Sahly:

Background: She was born in Lebanon and holds a name of Arabic origin.
Public Stance: Unlike her husband, her public profile is strictly focused on science and medicine. She has not publicly discussed her faith or religious identity in interviews or professional biographies.

Draw,your own conclusions.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at June 21, 2026 02:37 PM (S/pXD)

213 It seems like they are going to keep giving people clot shots until they finally get one that has a high enough mortality rate

Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2026 02:57 PM (VuzyX)

214 Under severe family pressure, I yielded to getting the COVID shot in March 2020, figuring it was like flu shots: maybe some good, but what the hell. What I learned over the three months following that scares the death out of me, and I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with mRNA technology whatsoever.

Alarmingly, among my nieces and nephews - all of whom I think are getting their regular COVID boosters - they are coming down with cancer diagnoses. I blame it mRNA.

When I first read that they were looking into mRNA-type flu shots, I ceased getting the thing, and never will again. My sawbones presses me to get the RSV shot, but that too is getting the mRNA look-at. No way, no how, not ever. Period.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 21, 2026 04:13 PM (bufu1)

215 No, and all the people pushing them should be investigated to see who's paying. Pharma wants mRNA so bad they cant stand still like a child that has to pee, because its so cheap to make and they can make a fortune not selling it cheap.

Posted by: Sixiron at June 21, 2026 08:53 PM (UMeAV)

216 A commenter mentioned an outrageously sneering, Trump-bashing leftist propaganda site--link to which didn't work. The site is called "DC Urban Moms" and here's the link to the most offensive post (note the link ends in "mom," singular:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2026/06/19/update061926

Example: "It also creates a difficult situation for cult leader, convicted felon, and failed President Donald Trump."

You have to see this stuff to believe it. I really think it's worth a minute of your time to see how much these people spew hate for Trump--and by extension, for all of us.

Posted by: sf at June 21, 2026 09:54 PM (9RZd3)

217 121 By late January someone had [gene-sequenced] the virus and found it had features that could not have [occurred by any type of natural mutation/evolution... --Jim in Kalifornia

Morons and 'ettes, Jim is right, and the moment has arrived for the plot to be revealed: the first confirmed case of duh Chyna virus in the U.S. was 29 Jan 2020. By chance, two DAYS later I stumbled on a tech paper showing the gene sequence of the spike protein. It clearly showed four genes not in the closest bat virus, and which had obviously been inserted. Everything is explained in my paper: https://tinyurl.com/3y79t3f8

It's easy reading. The surprising thing is that all coronaviruses have long-since been sequenced, so the comparison was easy.

Posted by: sf at June 21, 2026 10:42 PM (9RZd3)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 6-21-2026 [Sabrina Chase]

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Welcome to the Book Thread, Guest Poster edition! I will be your host as we explore all sorts of book-related topics. All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.) with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts. Now let us proceed to today's topic, which is ...

Restoring Lost Books

A book-lover's life has many sorrows. Authors that won't write the next book in the series (as if death is any excuse!), insufficient time/money/cats to read as much as you want, and injuries caused by insufficiently secured TBR piles. But the cruelest cut of all is to know of a book by name, by reference, by a few scattered quotations, that no longer exists. War, fire, ideological purges, dogs ... many things can make books disappear especially from the times before printing. Hand-copied books were, of necessity, few in number. We have the Illiad and the Odyssey, but there are four other tales from that epic that no longer exist. Several plays by Euripides are missing. A treatise on comedy by Aristotle (we have the one on tragedy). Most of the poetry of Sappho is only known from fragments.

However! There is a bright spot in the darkness. Advances in science and in archaeology mean that some books previously thought too damaged to ever be read again can be brought back to life, and a stellar example of this are the carbonized papyrus scrolls from the Villa of the Papyrii in Herculaneum, caught in the explosion of Vesuvius that also toasted Pompeii. The image at the top is one of the scrolls in question, pretty much a charcoal briquette to look at but with clever scanning we can now actually start reading it. There are over a thousand scrolls from this villa, thought to belong to the father-in-law of Julius Caesar. The one scroll they have deciphered using this technique is a book of Epicurian philosophy, not one of the lost books, but with a thousand more to examine the chances are good a previously lost book will be in the pile somewhere!

This was all made possible by a contest funded by donations. Each success brings a monetary reward to the discoverer, and more goals remain. It sounds like the foundation has access to 300 of the carbonized scrolls, so something good is likely to appear as the contest progresses.

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Besides scoping out burned scrolls, another way of recovering lost books is palimpsests. In the Middle Ages when books were written on vellum, thin prepared hide, it was so expensive that ancient books deemed no longer of any use by medieval monks would be scraped so the surface could be reused. And with clever scanning techniques (again... ) the original text can now be recovered. One famous manuscript known as the Archimedes Palimpsest had two missing texts from Archimedes, the Method of Mechanical Theorems and Stomachion, both mathematical treatises; a commentary on Aristotle with no other copy; and speeches by Hyperides, a famous ancient Athenian orator.

And when printed books took the world by storm, many printers had no use for the large, heavy parchment books with the hand-lettered pages and cut them up for use as binding shims, filler, and cover boards. Several documents and scraps of text have been rescued from old print book bindings. Sometimes books were "bound in" with other texts and in the days before card catalogs or really any kind of organization system beyond size, nobody would know unless they opened the whole thing and read carefully.

So take note of all the trials and tribulations, and don't let this happen to future generations. Preserve the books, even (and especially) the electronic ones! As we say in the software bizness, one backup is no backup. Copy early and often (and for the love of Ghu CHECK THAT THE BACKUP WORKS!)

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1 Is that a roast?

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 08:58 AM (Q+gd/)

2 Booken morgen Sabrina!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 09:00 AM (znREB)

3 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:00 AM (Ia/+0)

4 That's one of the carbonized scrolls.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:01 AM (78a2H)

5 Good morning, happy fathers day and welcome to the summer solstice (Phew! Busy day) to my fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (yTvNw)

6 The one scroll they have deciphered using this technique is a book of Epicurian philosophy,
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...extolling the merits of putting carrots in Pompeiian chili?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (gnNyN)

7 That scroll is in a condition a bookseller might call "slightly foxed". Volcanoes and books don't get along.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:04 AM (ee9bx)

8 Is that a roast?
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 08:58 AM (Q+gd/)
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It's a cook book!

Yay book thread!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:04 AM (ZOv7s)

9 That's one of the carbonized scrolls.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:01 AM (78a2H)

Or the returned manuscript of a new writer after being read by a literary agent.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 09:05 AM (1Ff7Z)

10 @6 --

Pineapple on pizza.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:05 AM (gQhJN)

11 Two is one and one is done.

Posted by: Reliability experts everywhere at June 21, 2026 09:05 AM (eDbqp)

12 That scroll is in a condition a bookseller might call "slightly foxed". Volcanoes and books don't get along.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:04 AM (ee9bx)
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I read a book this week that flat out told me to burn it before I read it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:06 AM (gnNyN)

13 The one scroll they have deciphered using this technique is a book of Epicurian philosophy,
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...extolling the merits of putting carrots in Pompeiian chili?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (gnNyN


She said Epicurean, not barbarian.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 21, 2026 09:06 AM (jGGMD)

14 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/me this weekend
https://tinyurl.com/yjk49xy5

( maybe a good book thread picture)

As for me, trying to read Carl v. Clauswitz's On War
It really is a serious stone read, and hard to read if not wide awake and concentrate

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:06 AM (Ia/+0)

15 Among the lost books of history, I wonder about the "as for the rest of So-so's acts, they are written in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel" referred to in Kings in the Old Testament

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 09:07 AM (znREB)

16 As the writer asked the agent, "Should I put more fire in my poetry?"

"No!" said the agent. "Do the opposite!"

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:08 AM (gQhJN)

17 Good Sunday morning, horde, and Happy Father's Day to the dads.

Safe travels for all the NoVaMoMe attendees.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX)

18 It's incredible that anything can be gleaned from those charred scrolls!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX)

19
"But there are also many other things which Jesus did, which, if they were written in detail, I expect that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written."

Posted by: John 21:25 at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (eDbqp)

20 I have to look it up, but I believe last week two of St. Augustine's lost homilies were found bound into a book in Poland. The discoverer wasn't looking for them, just doing research and thought: "Wait a minute, what's on the back page?" or something.

I am reading St. Augustine's City of God and he makes tons of references to other works, many of which are lost to us. This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories. We have but a fraction of the sources they had, and their works would not have been preserved if their contemporaries considered it false rubbish.

The fact that they survived - often in quantity - tells us that the people closest to events valued it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (ZOv7s)

21 It's incredible that anything can be gleaned from those charred scrolls!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX)
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Lasers...what can't they do?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (gnNyN)

22 With the red stripes, that scroll looks as if mystic energy is breaking out.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:11 AM (gQhJN)

23 Happy Fathers Day horde dads!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 09:11 AM (znREB)

24 In other reading news, Mao's Army Goes to Sea finally got interesting, but of course now the author had to dull it up again with pointless repetition.

It could have been a crackling 20-page monograph, but I guess he had to pad it out to make a book. Sigh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:12 AM (ZOv7s)

25 With the red stripes, that scroll looks as if mystic energy is breaking out.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:11 AM (gQhJN)
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Whatever you do, don't read it aloud!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:13 AM (ZOv7s)

26 Donald Hamilton could write in the third person past tense. As evidence I submit his early novel "Night Walker," which came out while Matt Helm was still a citizen.

A Navy lieutenant, recalled to active duty and not happy about it, thumbs a ride to Norfolk with a guy who gripes about his dismissal from government because he's suspected of Red sympathies. Through circumstances not fully disclosed, the officer wakes up in a hospital bed, badly banged up, with his face covered in bandages. The hospital staff calls him by the driver's name -- because, he's told, he was wearing the driver's clothes and carrying the driver's identification. No photo IDs in those days.

The only other person who knows the truth is the driver's estranged wife. She takes the lieutenant out of the hospital to her home on Chesapeake Bay, where she tells him that her husband had tried to kill him in a phony car crash and disappear, but something went wrong and Hubby died instead.

It all sounds straightforward, yet I'm skeptical. We've only been told through other characters what is going on; we have yet to see anything for ourselves. And, after all, this is Donald Hamilton.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:13 AM (gQhJN)

27
Finally, the Book Thread includes-

the Fossilized Foreleg of a Unicorn to kick things off.


Cn we have the Piltdown Man pay us a visit next week?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (iJfKG)

28 Most of the poetry of Sappho is only known from old greek homos

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (Kt19C)

29 Many thanks to whomever recommended Open Season by CJ Box. Very enjoyable audio book and I appreciate the recommendation to start with it as it is the beginning book of the Joe Pickett series.
I plan to listen to others as well.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (eDbqp)

30 Fascinating video on the scrolls. Seale says that ironically, had they not been carbonized by the fires, they wouldn't have survived; at least now they have these charred remains.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (kpS4V)

31 I don't know if I've already mentioned, but I've been reading _Hard to be a God_ by the Strugatsky brothers. They were Russian SF writers working under the Soviet government, and at least some reviewers have tried to explain all their work as various kinds of allegory of life under the Communists. I'm not sure that's true.

This one is obviously a huge influence on Iain Banks, about envoys from an advanced society (in this case Earth, and yes, it's explicitly after the triumph of Communism) living secretly in a more primitive society on another planet. They're all humans, because this was the 1960s and the Strugatskys were Europeans. (I don't know why Euro writers were so allergic for so long to realistically alien aliens.)

There's an afterword in my edition about the writing of the book, and in some ways it's more interesting than the novel as it gives a glimpse into the realities of writing under Communism. They had to delete any references to FTL travel because the Nazis had once denounced Einstein, therefore FTL in fiction was a sign of fascism. You can't make this stuff up!

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM (78a2H)

32 the Piltdown Doughboy

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 09:16 AM (Kt19C)

33 I'm currently reading Seveneves by Neal Stephenson. The world is going to end in two years. Humans have until then to figure out how to launch a life raft that will support the human race for the next 5000 years until Earth may be able to support life again.

One of the questions they do try to address is deciding what knowledge should be preserved for the long term. Not just the scientific technical skills they need, but the culture as well.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:16 AM (gnNyN)

34 In recognition of our upcoming birthday, I've begun to read Rick Atkinson's Revolutionary War trilogy beginning with The British Are Coming. I quite enjoyed his WWII in Europe trilogy but so far I'm enjoying this even more.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:17 AM (ndZc7)

35 27
Finally, the Book Thread includes-

the Fossilized Foreleg of a Unicorn to kick things off.

Cn we have the Piltdown Man pay us a visit next week?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 09:15 AM
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Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: Australopithecus at June 21, 2026 09:17 AM (eDbqp)

36 This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories.

Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
John Malalas, Historia Augusta, Movses Khorenatsi, Ctesias' Persica...

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 09:18 AM (gKWVE)

37 One of the questions they do try to address is deciding what knowledge should be preserved for the long term. Not just the scientific technical skills they need, but the culture as well.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Well, I hope they include the Limerick.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:19 AM (ndZc7)

38 >Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 09:18 AM
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Obama's college transcripts at June 21, 2026 09:20 AM (eDbqp)

39 Thanks to Sabrina for the thread. I've been following the story about the scrolls from the Vesuvius toasting as information becomes available. Fascinating and provides a bit of hope that lost materials may be rediscovered.

I agree about multiple back ups of digital materials but still have no confidence in them. Too many ways to go wrong. Lack of power. Lack of software and machines to read them. (How many computer files are still usable after only a few decades?) Deteriorating storage media.

I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 09:21 AM (yTvNw)

40 Morning, bookish folken,

This week I finished S.M. Stirling's Conan novel, Blood of the Serpent. It was written to lead into Howard's own short story, "Red Nails," and explain how Conan came to know and be following Valeria of the Red Brotherhood. The Howard story starts with him following her into a jungle.

Stirling's pastiche is quite readable and displays Conan as not only a tough and expert swordsman, but a smart leader as well. Howard's story is fast-moving and colorful (as is Stirling's), though the tendency to purple prose and said-isms ("We're both penniless vagabonds," [Conan] grinned hardily) is a little jarring. All said, a good read.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:22 AM (wzUl9)

41 34 In recognition of our upcoming birthday, I've begun to read Rick Atkinson's Revolutionary War trilogy beginning with The British Are Coming. I quite enjoyed his WWII in Europe trilogy but so far I'm enjoying this even more.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:17 AM (ndZc7)
I read that as Rick Astley. Moar coffee.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:23 AM (LHPAg)

42 >>> 20 I have to look it up, but I believe last week two of St. Augustine's lost homilies were found bound into a book in Poland. The discoverer wasn't looking for them, just doing research and thought: "Wait a minute, what's on the back page?" or something.

I am reading St. Augustine's City of God and he makes tons of references to other works, many of which are lost to us. This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories. We have but a fraction of the sources they had, and their works would not have been preserved if their contemporaries considered it false rubbish.

The fact that they survived - often in quantity - tells us that the people closest to events valued it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:10 AM (ZOv7s)

But we totes have a complete picture of history, not only from books but archaeological findings as well.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:23 AM (R+iUD)

43 AWI think you will enjoy that

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:24 AM (Ia/+0)

44 I purchased on impulse the four-volume set "The History of Middle Earth" by Christopher Tolkien (a handsome collection) and am beginning at the beginning with "The Return of the Shadow". I have low expectations but missed visiting Middle Earth.

It's so interesting to read the various drafts of a story whose proper finished form I feel in my bones. I knew Tolkien had a history sketched out but was surprised at how much the tale grew in the telling:

"I met a lot of things on the way that astonished me. Tom Bombadil I knew already; but I had never been to Bree. Strider sitting in the corner at the inn was a shock, and I had no more idea who he was than had Frodo. The Mines of Moria had been a mere name; and of Lothlórien no word had reached my mortal ears till I came there. Far away I knew there were the Horse-lords on the confines of an ancient Kingdom of Men, but Fangorn Forest was an unforeseen adventure. I had never heard of the House of Eorl nor of the Stewards of Gondor. Most disquieting of all, Saruman had never been revealed to me, and I was as mystified as Frodo at Gandalf's failure to appear on September 22."
-- J.R.R. Tolkien, in a letter to W.H. Auden

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 09:24 AM (kpS4V)

45 Sometimes it funny watching modern authors try to deal with 'the role of women in a fantasy world.' I read a story recently that had the following incidents, all in a single chapter. First, we saw a woman as a General (The role was closer to a Captain of the Guard, she was the first person to make contact with trespassing ships) and nobody in the story batted an eye at this. Next, we had a fully adult woman scream in helpless panic because her employer was getting a bit handsy with her. And lastly, the General woke up in a guy's bed, and immediately called him 'husband.' A one night stand (featuring a very drunk guy) justified a shotgun-marriage, and again, no one in the setting saw this as anything out of the ordinary.

So, what am I to take away from this? Are women fierce and independent? Or fragile and in need to constant protection? Without some additional explanation, it's hard to reconcile some of these reactions...

And that story was written by a woman...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2026 09:25 AM (3v7ra)

46 I am especially disappointed in Patrick O'Brian, of the Aubrey and Maturin books, and Sue Grafton, of the Kinsey Milhone series. They left me wanting more. God rest their talented and accomplished souls.

Posted by: huerfano at June 21, 2026 09:25 AM (VJX5o)

47 I'm hoping the Herculaneum scrolls include a copy of Claudius's work on the Etruscans. We know so little about them even now, and just one Roman-era work would be a revolution.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (78a2H)

48 Getting into American Revolution history, its next year a string of events and battles in my immediate area Imight go to

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (Ia/+0)

49 I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon.

I was at the Chicago Public Library a few months ago, researching old TV Guides (1952-1954), only available on microfilm. Final day of research, I come in, and it won’t let me log in to the film reader.

“The computer’s down. You can’t use the film readers until the computer comes back up; they’re aware of the problem.”

“What about that manual film reader over in the corner?”

“You’re welcome to try it. I have no idea how it works.”

I’m 90% certain I was able to get it to work, but the lower level of magnification and the complete lack of software-based image enhancement wasn’t enough to make the film readable. Fortunately, by the time I got that far, the computers were functional again.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (kYmoU)

50 Shifting from fantasy to crime, as I often do, I'm reading a 1978 British mystery by one John R.L. Anderson featuring his detective/security officer, Col. Peter Blair: Death in the Greenhouse. Despite the modern cozy-style title, it's more of a classic detective tale in its tone. Blair is asked to find out why someone has shot a retired Foreign Office civil servant in his English greenhouse -- which requires him to probe into twenty-year-old doings in a former British African territory. I don't know if the story will actually take him to Africa.

So far, this seems more like a mix of the best of Somerset Maugham and John Dickson Carr, though without the latter's impossible crime tropes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:26 AM (wzUl9)

51 Great topic!

Posted by: TRex - dead sea dino at June 21, 2026 09:27 AM (IQ6Gq)

52 We have but a fraction of the sources they had, and their works would not have been preserved if their contemporaries considered it false rubbish.

Do I recall correctly that St. Augustine at least thought he had seen the Roman records of Jesus’s crucifixion?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:27 AM (kYmoU)

53 I finished reading Agatha Christie's Death on the Nile this week.

To avoid spoilers, I will only say that the butler didn't do it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gnNyN)

54 @45 --

All of the above.

Not all men are the same; neither are all women.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gQhJN)

55 Morning, Sabrina.

Howdy, Horde.

One backup? True -- not enough. The ebooks, and some movies and music here at Casa Some Guy are on my Chromebook's SSD, and also on a couple of USB hard drives and a couple of USB thumb drives. This is not careful planning on my part. Every time I get it into my head that I really need to finally organize and cull some of those files, I back up the mess so that I don't screw up the set I'm working on and lose everything. Some day I'll consolidate all of it and finally get it trimmed down and organized in one set of files without a lot of unwanted duplication, but before I get into that, I'd better run a backup. Just in case.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 09:30 AM (q3u5l)

56 It all sounds straightforward, yet I'm skeptical. We've only been told through other characters what is going on; we have yet to see anything for ourselves. And, after all, this is Donald Hamilton.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026


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I have Night Walker on my shelf and have read it, but recall almost nothing about it. That's not a slam at Hamilton; I'm sure I enjoyed it, but I may have read it years ago and other things have intruded.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:31 AM (wzUl9)

57 They had to delete any references to FTL travel because the Nazis had once denounced Einstein, therefore FTL in fiction was a sign of fascism. You can't make this stuff up!
Posted by: Trimegistus

One of my favorite stories about artistic censorship under the Soviets concerns Prokofiev's opera War and Peace. Known primarily for his lighter works such as Peter and the Wolf, he decided to write something patriot when the Nazis attacked. But Stalin banned it because in the opera, as in real life, Moscow fell to Napoleon and Stalin wasn't having any of that Moscow falls crap.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:32 AM (ndZc7)

58 This is why I have so little patience with people who try to challenge ancient histories.
++++
Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
John Malalas, Historia Augusta, Movses Khorenatsi, Ctesias' Persica...
Posted by: gKWVE
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In modern times -
- Kung Flu will kill you, and killed millions, not a government agent known as Fauci
- J6 was an insurrection somewhere on the scale between Whiskey Rebellion and Civil War.

Somewhere around here I have a fairly modern book on Ancient Rome. It's author points out these problems in history - we know people lie and they lie for political gain/power, and one of the most extension collections are (or some of) the papers of a guy who was paid to spread writings favorable to his patrons. We know this because that is in his writings.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 09:32 AM (/lPRQ)

59
I finished reading Agatha Christie's Death on the Nile this week.

To avoid spoilers, I will only say that the butler didn't do it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gnNyN)


Dame A played fair on that one but if you paid attention it was easy to figure out who done it.

An "easy" one to give her readers a victory?

Do mystery authors do that?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 09:33 AM (iJfKG)

60 "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:28 AM (gnNyN)

I've seen the movie with Peter Ustinov. It's about shots fired.

Posted by: dantesed at June 21, 2026 09:33 AM (Oy/m2)

61 I am getting less and less able to tolerate counterfactual bullshit in fantasy stories. Not magic and elves, but preliterate and preindustrial societies which somehow replicate the cultural norms of contemporary Seattle.

You don't _have_ ethnically diverse societies when most people die in the same village where they were born. You might have a family known as the "Blacks" because three generations back a shipwrecked sailor with darkish hair settled nearby, but all his descendants will look pretty much like their neighbors after fifty years.

You don't _have_ women in military professions before firearms. I have a family member, a woman, who competes at a fairly high level in fencing. She can beat other women her age, but not men. Size and strength actually matter. Plus societies which put fertile women on the battle line don't last long.

If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

62 The premise for Night Walker sounds similar to a recent-ish mystery movie I read about, probably here, but I can't remember the name of the movie or who was in it. :/

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (R+iUD)

63 I read a comic book adaptation of Rober Louis Stevenson's "Kidnapped," and I have reason to assume that this adaptation is fairly faithful to the original novel. Lots of wild plot swings, with new plot-shaking events arriving with very little warning. And yet, the book still feels less 'random' the RLS's other novel, "Treasure Island." Because in Kidnapped, crazy events happen to our young hero, usually instigated by outside forces. In contrast, Treasure Island too many events are precipitated by our hero doing something fooling for no particular reason. But I can also see why TI is the more famous of the two book; the premise of pirates and buried treasure is straightforward, and universally appealing. Kidnapped, on the other hand, deals a lot with the social fallout of the Scottish Civil War, which makes the setting far less understandable...

Speaking to the 'comic book' part of the adaptation, the art is okay. It doesn't stand out, but neither is it terrible. Its most interesting aspect is that the main hero is a long-faced teenager with a near-constant look of disgust/disdain. Given the events of the book, this is perfectly justified.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2026 09:36 AM (3v7ra)

64 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)
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Because it's all they "know" about the real world...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:37 AM (gnNyN)

65
One of my favorite stories about artistic censorship under the Soviets concerns Prokofiev's opera War and Peace. Known primarily for his lighter works such as Peter and the Wolf, he decided to write something patriot when the Nazis attacked. But Stalin banned it because in the opera, as in real life, Moscow fell to Napoleon and Stalin wasn't having any of that Moscow falls crap.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 09:32 AM (ndZc7)


I don't know how Prokofiev would have turned out had he stayed in the West instead of going back to the USSR, but his life after his return was a misery.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:37 AM (O0L8i)

66 Good morning everyone, happy Father's Day, and thank you, Sabrina!

Speaking of authors who refuse to write the next sequel (death being no excuse), Eris, did you know Alan Bradley died in May? Leaving his last Flavia de Luce book with a wide-open ending? God rest his soul.

But as it turns out, he did finish the next Flavia book and it is scheduled for publication in November of this year.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 09:38 AM (afFes)

67 44 ... "I purchased on impulse the four-volume set "The History of Middle Earth" by Christopher Tolkien (a handsome collection) and am beginning at the beginning with "The Return of the Shadow". I have low expectations but missed visiting Middle Earth."

AHE,
I have that set in hardcover, as any proper devotee of Tolkien must. (I gave the paperback version to my niece and her husband.) Not something I would read cover to cover but interesting for fanatics and obsessives.

I've seen that letter from Tolkien to Auden. Knowing how much of the LOTR story was developed on the fly was a fascinating, and surprising, insight. That's one of the reasons I enjoy collections of letters from authors I enjoy; the glimpses into the development of their writing.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 09:38 AM (yTvNw)

68 I finished reading Agatha Christie's Death on the Nile this week.

To avoid spoilers, I will only say that the butler didn't do it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026


***
During my big detective phase in my teens, I read a lot of her mysteries and was not terribly impressed with her use of clues and reasoning. Reading some of those same books now, I see that she had an excellent grasp of human nature, and that human nature often was essential to the crimes and their solutions . . . much like the later Ellery Queen novels.

Her "Mary Westmacott" non-genre novels -- I've read three -- are superb stuff, with, again, that dramatic knowledge of human nature and motivations. They are like a mix of Somerset Maugham and A.J. Cronin's works, written in Agatha's own plainer style.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

69 >>> 61
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If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because those books are written by and for Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:39 AM (R+iUD)

70 . . . That's one of the reasons I enjoy collections of letters from authors I enjoy; the glimpses into the development of their writing.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026


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And their biographies or autobiographies. We see the kinds of things that inspired their choice of genre, or that inspired individual elements and characters in their work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:40 AM (wzUl9)

71 Happy Father’s Day to all you well read dads!

Posted by: Piper at June 21, 2026 09:42 AM (Wmg4n)

72 Bluebell, I did not know that! Sad, but we have one more novel at least. Flavia was approaching young womanhood and I'm curious to see her as an adult.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM (kpS4V)

73 Talking of the Soviet Union reminds me of a little theory I've been tinkering with in my basement: most of what we call "revolutions" were really just "coups." What I mean by that is that they _didn't_ really change the society, just who was running it. The Russian Revolution kept the Russian colonial empire, the Tsar's secret police and travel restrictions, the top-down economic dirigisme, large landed estates, etc. It just replaced the nobility and the Tsar with the Party and the Central Committee. The French Revolution preserved most of Louis XIV's bureaucratic centralized state, just with a revolving door of characters at the top — hence the French fatalism about never being able to actually solve problems. Even cutting off heads didn't work.

Am I on to something here?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM (78a2H)

74 I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon.

This curmudgeon's problem isn't with microfiche per se, but with libraries putting their holdings on microfiche and then destroying the originals. This is one reason why complete runs of some of the great newspapers like the New York Herald and Los Angeles Examiner no longer exist.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:44 AM (qRla/)

75 In modern times -
- Kung Flu will kill you, and killed millions, not a government agent known as Fauci
- J6 was an insurrection somewhere on the scale between Whiskey Rebellion and Civil War.
Itinerate Alley Butcher, I pray to GOD our great grand-children don't hear those fables. As an almost 78 year old adult who knows authentic history, I almost weep at the left continuing to re-write it. General Steven D. Lee warned us.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:44 AM (LHPAg)

76
Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.

Not just ancient history. Ty Cobb was given the reputation of a psychopathic racist because of the lies of Al Stump. Cobb wasn't a nice guy and he was raised in late 1800's Georgia, but most of the stories about him were later found to be false.

And Bill Veeck blackened Kenesaw Mountain Landis by claiming Landis prevented him from buying the Phillies in 1943 and using black ballplayers on the roster. There's no contemporaneous evidence for those two events.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:45 AM (O0L8i)

77 >>> 73 Talking of the Soviet Union reminds me of a little theory I've been tinkering with in my basement: most of what we call "revolutions" were really just "coups." What I mean by that is that they _didn't_ really change the society, just who was running it. The Russian Revolution kept the Russian colonial empire, the Tsar's secret police and travel restrictions, the top-down economic dirigisme, large landed estates, etc. It just replaced the nobility and the Tsar with the Party and the Central Committee. The French Revolution preserved most of Louis XIV's bureaucratic centralized state, just with a revolving door of characters at the top — hence the French fatalism about never being able to actually solve problems. Even cutting off heads didn't work.

Am I on to something here?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM (78a2H)

NO.

Posted by: the current derp state at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (R+iUD)

78 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)
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Because that is the core audience.

I have three daughters, two of which are into D&D. They both bristle at the idea of women NOT being able to play whatever they want. It is, after all, a fantasy.

However, they also accept men are stronger than women, and so when they want to play a brute crusher, they play a dude rather than a girlboss.

But the opening up of the fantasy genre to women means it gets female fantasies as well, and we all know those are very much different from how men think.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

79 Eris, I'm curious to see what he did with that big revelation about her father in that last book. I did not see that coming.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (afFes)

80 It could have been a crackling 20-page monograph, but I guess he had to pad it out to make a book. Sigh.

I’m currently reading a good spy novel (The Charm School) but it is…overlong. What is it with all these authors who think they’re Herman Melville? Just because you researched how whales get processed, doesn’t mean it goes in the book.

Posted by: The best thief in Lankhmar at June 21, 2026 09:47 AM (64rer)

81
Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i)

82 … and then destroying the originals.

Yup. When I returned to the Chicago Public Library a few months ago, it was to verify some poorly readable text against the originals. The scans look like they must have been made in the early nineties!

No can do. We don’t have the originals any more. I was able to tweak the computer enough to be reasonably certain of all of the iffy texts but one, but there are other things I fortunately didn’t need that will probably never be reasonably decipherable.

I see this on newspapers.com a lot, too. Though I hope they aren’t destroying their 1776-1826 papers, I am also not placing any bets.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (kYmoU)

83 Problem: many reams of bullshit were preserved because they were more entertaining than the real thing and the real thing got lost.
John Malalas, Historia Augusta, Movses Khorenatsi, Ctesias' Persica...
Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 09:18 AM (gKWVE)
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Or they were as discredited as we believe.

In the (many footnotes) to City of God, the translator points to an "error" which I ran to ground and found that it wasn't an error. Augustine was correct.

We can look at Herodotus and say he was full of crap, but he was writing what everyone said, and that's very useful to know.

Also: the modern idea of "just the facts" has its own weaknesses. Pre-modern audiences has a much stronger grasp of symbolism than we do.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

84 Good morning Sabrina, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 21, 2026 09:50 AM (/6r4m)

85
It could have been a crackling 20-page monograph, but I guess he had to pad it out to make a book. Sigh.

There was a columnist for a dog-show publication that would never say in less than a paragraph anything for which a sentence would ordinarily suffice.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (O0L8i)

86 That scroll is in a condition a bookseller might call "slightly foxed".

Now that's funny. I've learned that "near fine" means "still has most of the pages" and "very good" means "still has at least one cover."

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (vTZFs)

87 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i)
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I have come to despise it. I like Tolkien because he both defined and then transcended the genre. He reads completely differently to me know than he did back then.

I like R.E. Howard because he's just so over the top. He's not fantasy so much as just rolling with it. Minimalist world-building, character development is an afterthought.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

88 I’m currently reading a good spy novel (The Charm School) but it is…overlong. What is it with all these authors who think they’re Herman Melville? Just because you researched how whales get processed, doesn’t mean it goes in the book.
Posted by: The best thief in Lankhmar at June 21, 2026 09:47 AM (64rer)
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Yeah, I'm running into that issue with Seveneves...

It might as well be called "Technobabble: The Book!"

Stephen Baxter and Alistair Reynolds did a much better job of telling their version of this story in half the pages.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (gnNyN)

89 'I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon'
Me too. 'Somewhere', I have a microfiche of my Navy records, and you just reminded me 'hey why have you been going round and round with the VA almost 5 years when you have a microfiche?'. But alas how would I read it?

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 09:52 AM (LHPAg)

90 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes and thanks for the new thread, Sabrina.*

Tried to cure my sadness by book shopping this weekend. Picked up a few things here and there, but it didn't help.

One is Jack Beatty's The Lost History of 1914: Reconsidering the Year the Great War Began. He discusses five paths that would have led away from the War - a military coup in Germany, imminent civil war in Britain and so on - to support his thesis that "the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand [wasn't] the catalyst of a war that would have broken out in any event over some other crisis, but rather as its all-but-unique precipitant."

*I've always loved that name, probably because I had a crush on Kate Jackson.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:52 AM (qRla/)

91 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026


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A lot of the modern stuff bores me, and I write it. It seems as though every huge fantasy novel on the Barnes & Noble shelves begins with some young woman looking out of a tower, remembering sadly the good old days when King Arglebargle IV ruled the land.

Give me Fred Saberhagen and his hardboiled Empire of the East. Or Larry Niven's imaginative Magic Goes Away stories in which mana, the power behind magic, is fading from the world, and creatures like mermen and unicorns breed oddly (giving us dolphins and ponies in the present world) where the mana is low.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:53 AM (wzUl9)

92 Or they were as discredited as we believe.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
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This should read "weren't as discredited."

Note well that most "Bible scholars" detest their subject matter and work tirelessly to prove it false.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)

93 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i


I hate it too, unless it is Arthurian fiction, and even then it's hit or miss.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:54 AM (qRla/)

94 Microfiche is great (I used to have fun reading the archives from 50 years prior to learn what people then thought was the One Big Thing ... that never made it to the history books). However! If it is on plastic the lifetime is finite. Glass microfiche exists but more rare and more expensive. The real way to preserve texts is lots and lots of copies, all over the place and in multiple repositories. Nothing is permanent. You need copies, and to keep making copies. Kind of like life, really ...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:56 AM (PHjsi)

95 I made some progress in the latest translation of Camp of the Saints. It's been years since I read another version of it, but I think I've identified where Raspail edited out some unnecessary passages. It remains as relevant as ever.

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2026 09:56 AM (tTZHu)

96 No can do. We don’t have the originals any more. I was able to tweak the computer enough to be reasonably certain of all of the iffy texts but one, but there are other things I fortunately didn’t need that will probably never be reasonably decipherable.

I see this on newspapers.com a lot, too. Though I hope they aren’t destroying their 1776-1826 papers, I am also not placing any bets.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (kYmoU)

In James Caan’s Rollerball, a quiet but key moment is when he goes to the library to look up old records, and learns that nothing is there anymore, they just have links to the central database in Zurich.
So he goes to Zurich, and finds that the Central Database has forgotten everything and is useless.
The ruling class has erased the past.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 09:57 AM (nuNhM)

97 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because the author him/herself is a Bluesky subscriber wearing a LARP costume. And because the publisher is likely also a Bluesky subscriber.

Regardless, I full-heartedly share your disdain for too much modern attitudes in fantasy stories.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 21, 2026 09:58 AM (3v7ra)

98 Thomas Harris has a character -- one of Hannibal Lecter's victims who proves important in the hunt for Buffalo Bill -- named "Raspail." I wonder if Harris knew of, or read, Camp of the Saints?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 09:58 AM (wzUl9)

99 In related news, the reorganization of Chateau Lloyd's library system is grinding forward. The biggest complication is variable book size.

Tolkien, for example, is really difficult to keep in a single book case. There are oversized folios, illustrated guides, and then trade paperbacks. I'm doing a vertical system, so that the right side of the case is all Tolkien, but even then, the trade paperbacks are on the bedside bookcase - which is convenient for obvious reasons. I'm not reading a folio as a bedtime book.

There have been more than a few "wtf?" moments and I handle a book I've never seen before. Also a small stack of books to be sold or donated.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:58 AM (ZOv7s)

100 “ Yet you, Lord, are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.”

Isaiah 64:8

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2026 09:59 AM (PM/iv)

101 Am I on to something here?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:43 AM

You and Roger Daltrey, Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Really my take on the Russian Revolution is like all Leftists, flowery thinking everything will be different when we are in charge, but once that power is achieved the greed of it takes over and any old plans of equally are long forgotten.
Every Revolution has been this way.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 09:59 AM (Ia/+0)

102 The other is My Love Affair with the State of Maine, a 1955 memoir by an NYC ad executive named Gertrude Mackenzie who chucks it all to move to Goose Rocks, Maine (a part of Kennebunkport) to run a country store with her friend Dorothy. I have no idea how this one is going to turn out, but I hope it's at least as good as Chicken Every Sunday by Rosemary Taylor.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:59 AM (qRla/)

103 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because those books are written by and for Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:39 AM (R+iUD)


I also think there's a bit of...oh, let's call it, Brain Block working here.

Their imaginations can only wander down certain pre-approved paths. (ie, Travels in Woketardia).

It's the same reason why most Soviet fiction is so lousy and forgettable.

They strap the Chastity Political Belt around their brains so certain things can't occur or even be imagined.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

104 I haven't been able to read in bed for many years. When I go to bed -- nowadays, anyway! -- it's to sleep. I don't even think about watching TV there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (wzUl9)

105 Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.

I can't dispute Clarke's line about sufficiently advanced technology but for me the (admittedly fuzzy) line is somewhere this side of dragons. I make an exception for Tolkien because... well... because I do, I guess.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (vTZFs)

106 Never got heavily into fantasy. Some of Leiber, Vance, Tolkien, when I was in high school. Think I read Brooks's Sword of Shannara (sp?) when it came out, mainly out of curiosity, but almost nothing along that line after.

For me these days, it's a section in the bookshop that might as well be labelled "This You May Safely Ignore."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 10:01 AM (q3u5l)

107 one is none, two is one

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 10:01 AM (xcxpd)

108 IIRC one of the mysteries in Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose was the existence of Aristotle's work on comedy in the secret library.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2026 10:02 AM (PiwSw)

109 The real way to preserve texts is lots and lots of copies, all over the place and in multiple repositories. Nothing is permanent. You need copies, and to keep making copies. Kind of like life, really ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 09:56 AM (PHjsi)
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Newspapers and magazines were never designed to be archival records. They were the television/radio/internet of their time, durable only because there was no cheaper way to make them.

When I was in college, the universities were switching over from bound copies of periodicals to microfiche, which was much more convenient, but now digital is the thing, and it's shocking how empty the library building is these days. It used to densely packed, with vast card catalogs, but all that's gone.

Worth remembering that many of the books that survived from antiquity were from private collections that were later moved to abbeys or castles.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)

110 I can't dispute Clarke's line about sufficiently advanced technology but for me the (admittedly fuzzy) line is somewhere this side of dragons. I make an exception for Tolkien because... well... because I do, I guess.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026


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Magic systems in so many stories seem to be, well, unsystematic. Magic, like tech, should have its own rules, and if there are exceptions they should be explained. It should also not be easy to work a spell, or then everybody could do it and why would you need professionals?

The two basic classical rules of magic, the Law of Similarity and the Law of Contagion, are a good start. But a clever writer will go beyond those.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:03 AM (wzUl9)

111 103 If you're writing a fantasy, why are you depicting the world as a bunch of Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

Because those books are written by and for Bluesky subscribers wearing LARP costumes.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 09:39 AM (R+iUD)
This is the reason I spend so much time here! No get ready for church. Later.

I also think there's a bit of...oh, let's call it, Brain Block working here.

Their imaginations can only wander down certain pre-approved paths. (ie, Travels in Woketardia).

It's the same reason why most Soviet fiction is so lousy and forgettable.

They strap the Chastity Political Belt around their brains so certain things can't occur or even be imagined.

Sad.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg)

112 Thinking of our Revolution, it really was more a separation from England than replacing England government. The French, Russian, Chinese, Communist takeovers, Spanish and others I can't think of replaced the government not just separation from the government in charge.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (Ia/+0)

113 Note well that most "Bible scholars" detest their subject matter and work tirelessly to prove it false.

A point emphasized in Luke Timothy Johnson's The Real Jesus.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (qRla/)

114 At 111-
That right there.

Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2026 10:05 AM (LHPAg)

115 In Silence of the Lambs, (Benjamin) Raspail's head ends up in a jar. Perhaps Harris didn't have a high opinion of CotS.

Posted by: PabloD at June 21, 2026 10:05 AM (tTZHu)

116 China went from an Imperial government to a Communist one. Or was that just another form of The Big Men Are in Charge, and You Little People Are Nothing?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (wzUl9)

117 81
Sorry to be a minority of one, but I detest fantasy fiction.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 09:48 AM (O0L8i)

*Shrug*

Some people hate BBQ too

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (xcxpd)

118 Some people hate BBQ too
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (xcxpd)

I don't understand those words of English in that order.

Posted by: dantesed at June 21, 2026 10:07 AM (Oy/m2)

119 Magic systems in so many stories seem to be, well, unsystematic. Magic, like tech, should have its own rules, and if there are exceptions they should be explained.

Good point. In the spirit of full disclosure, I should also admit an exception for Butcher's "Dresden Files" books. I think he generally does a good job with that.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 10:08 AM (vTZFs)

120 79 Eris, I'm curious to see what he did with that big revelation about her father in that last book. I did not see that coming.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (afFes)

I read the first Flavia book some years ago, and then got distracted with other things and didn't read anymore. Maybe that's what I need to get me out of the current slump of disinterest.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 21, 2026 10:08 AM (h7ZuX)

121 Adjacent to Sabrina's topic of the Herculaneum scrolls and the need to preserve writing, I started speculating. How would I organize a modern library of Alexandria? Not so much the physical means but how to assign divisions of information.

Section 1 - facts: hard science like basic arithmetic, geography, how to make gun powder, etc.
Subsection - guess work and theories presented as facts including anything to do with Fauci or the United Nations and any system of government not based on individual freedom.

Section 2 - wisdom: myths, philosophy, literature, and, especially, poetry.

Section 1 would provide information. Section 2 would provide meaning.

The complex could be powered by burning the millions of unsold autobiographies of former First Ladies. That should cover the power needs for the first hundred years, maybe longer.

Guess I'm in a whimsical mood this morning.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (yTvNw)

122 One problem with newspapers is that they self-destruct. Wood pulp paper gets acidic and destroys itself. I recall once looking through some archival newsprint and being horrified at how it crumbled every time I turned a page. Scanning is basically the ONLY way to preserve old newspapers.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (78a2H)

123 Thinking of our Revolution, it really was more a separation from England than replacing England government. The French, Russian, Chinese, Communist takeovers, Spanish and others I can't think of replaced the government not just separation from the government in charge.
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (Ia/+0)
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The initial rebellion was to assert their traditional rights as Englishmen. It was only after their efforts were dismissed that independence was considered.

The Glorious Revolution of 1688 was their model, and even the term "Bill fo Rights" was copied from that event.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (ZOv7s)

124 >>> 112 Thinking of our Revolution, it really was more a separation from England than replacing England government. The French, Russian, Chinese, Communist takeovers, Spanish and others I can't think of replaced the government not just separation from the government in charge.
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 10:04 AM (Ia/+0)

The leaders asserted they were reclaiming their rights as Englishmen, and while the *original* No Kings concept was certainly new, they didn't invent a whole new and insane set of RIGHTS! as our modern-day commie retards have.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (R+iUD)

125 Sorry, folks, I'm just not feeling right today, so I'm going to check out.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 10:09 AM (qRla/)

126 "the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand [wasn't] the catalyst of a war that would have broken out in any event over some other crisis, but rather as its all-but-unique precipitant."

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There were many off ramps that might have been taken but instead all parties marched blindly into the abyss. I do think that the war guilt clause that Germany was forced to accept was a vast over simplification. Now, WWII was more clear cut.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (ndZc7)

127 We can look at Herodotus and say he was full of crap, but he was writing what everyone said, and that's very useful to know.

Also: the modern idea of "just the facts" has its own weaknesses. Pre-modern audiences has a much stronger grasp of symbolism than we do.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of History, but he is the Father of Lies.” So some saw it from the start.

Lost great works - we know very little about the Etruscans now, mostly inference and guesswork. Yet there was a multi volume work in existence at the time of Claudius which covered their history, culture, and language in detail, as told by Etruscan descendants still living at the time. A truly great loss.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (nuNhM)

128 I just finished Anthony Horowitz' "A Deadly Episode," another Horowitz and Hawthorne book. While it was kind of annoying to make himself a character in the previous books, it works here, because the murder takes place on the movie set of the filming of his first H/H book, "The Word Is Murder" in Hastings.

The Hawthorne actor is murdered - was he the target or was it the real one? The story-within-a-story is a flashback to Hawthorne's first case as a PI because one of those involved in that case turns up in Hastings...

Posted by: Wethal at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (gihWY)

129 If Barack Obama had a library, it would look like that top photo.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (fkjGs)

130 I would like to pay a tribute to some of the fine fathers I recall in literature : "Atticus Finch" To Kill a Mockingbird, "Pa" in Little House on the Prairie and Matthew, the adoptive father of Anne in "Anne of Green Gables

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 10:12 AM (q5DOt)

131 What are these Alan Bradley "Flavia de Luce" books about? Comedies of manners, family dramas, or what?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:13 AM (wzUl9)

132 China went from an Imperial government to a Communist one. Or was that just another form of The Big Men Are in Charge, and You Little People Are Nothing?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:06 AM (wzUl9)
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It went from an Imperial system to a Republican one, and the Golden Decade of Nationalist rule from 1928 to 1937 is often overlooked. Huge gains were made in modernizing China, building internal improvements, eliminating things like foot binding, etc. Having known peace for the first time in decades, the economy took off.

The Communists were on the ropes, and the Long March would have come to naught if Japan hadn't attacked in 1937.

The Communists took over (read my book!) and did make a break from tradition, and it was disastrous. After Mao died, the old Imperial system has reasserted itself to the point where the CCP is the new Mandarin bureaucracy, only far less competent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)

133 The empty libraries? It strikes me sometimes that libraries have, for quite a while, emphasized "access." We have "access" to all these books and periodicals through intricate interlibrary loan systems and digital databases. Don't see it here? Just ask, and we can probably get it for you. Everybody wants "access." But the items to be accessed are being stored in fewer and fewer places because who's got all that space and who wants the headache of maintaining it all? And some of those places don't loan all that stuff out anyway.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (q3u5l)

134 Lost great works - we know very little about the Etruscans now, mostly inference and guesswork. Yet there was a multi volume work in existence at the time of Claudius which covered their history, culture, and language in detail, as told by Etruscan descendants still living at the time. A truly great loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026


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I believe Claudius was said to be working on a history of the Etruscans before he became emperor. Or maybe that was Robert Graves' invention?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

135 A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of History, but he is the Father of Lies.” So some saw it from the start.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 10:10 AM (nuNhM)
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Right, but historians are just as prone to character assassination as anyone else. I think Herodotus was a transitional figure between the idea of poetic, mythical history and a more grounded factual version. I note that Herodotus does frequently take the line of: "I don't say it's true, it's just what I heard."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:16 AM (ZOv7s)

136 I believe Claudius was said to be working on a history of the Etruscans before he became emperor. Or maybe that was Robert Graves' invention?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)
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It's true. Graves was a Latin scholar, and Penguin uses his translation of Suetonius, who Graves drew upon heavily.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:17 AM (ZOv7s)

137 Just finished my yearly reading of LOTR. Starting on Atkinson’s “The British are Coming”
Happy Father’s Day to all you dads.

Posted by: Uncle Slayton at June 21, 2026 10:21 AM (PJ6NO)

138 74 ... "
This curmudgeon's problem isn't with microfiche per se, but with libraries putting their holdings on microfiche and then destroying the originals. This is one reason why complete runs of some of the great newspapers like the New York Herald and Los Angeles Examiner no longer exist."

MP4,
I know about that and it is an abombination. If endless space and resources can be created for AI crap data centers, space can be set aside for preservation of documents and books. It's in the same category with libraries purging their shelves if a book isn't used i a year or so. That might explain why it's hard to find classic literature and history in a lot of libraries. Makes me wonder if libraries are administered by people who couldn't cut it in the NEA teachers union.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 10:22 AM (yTvNw)

139 I do enjoy fantasy fiction but, it's true, it's mostly junk these days. I hate to say it, but if I see a female author's name, I'm likely to pass on it.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 10:24 AM (VCgbV)

140 Based on China videos being smuggled out, I'd say the CCP is heading for a fall as the dynastic cycle grinds remorselessly on. In every dynasty there is a point where greed and corruption cripple the government, where it is easier to suppress bad news than fix the problems, and that is exactly where we are today, and the mainland Chinese are increasingly talking about it.

Certain temples and sacred mountains associated with dynastic change have been fenced off and locked down. Beijing itself has been entirely encircled by fencing - not just traffic checkpoints (which it always had but are now buffed up) but actual monitored border walls.

Mentioning "June 4th or "6/4" is forbidden. Even saying six and four together is forbidden. That's how paranoid they are right now.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

141 I finished Three Men in a Boat. Once again the moron recommendation comes through. Thoroughly enjoyable. I’ll start Three Men on the Bummel today. I hope Montmorency is along for the ride this time, too.

Posted by: Who Knew at June 21, 2026 10:25 AM (QeSDj)

142 I was intrigued by magical systems that had consequences, like physical drains on the sorcerer or his environs, or there was a price to pay for every warping of reality, a blowback that unintentionally transformed other aspects of the world long term. The impact had to be balanced against the desired result. Like magical radioactivity.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:26 AM (kpS4V)

143 *I've always loved that name, probably because I had a crush on Kate Jackson.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 21, 2026 09:52 AM (qRla/)

You are a man of taste and discernment, MP4.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:27 AM (1Ff7Z)

144 @131 --

I've read only the first Flavia de Luce novel, and that was long before I joined AoS.

She's a smart young girl who's a self-taught chemist. Has an older sister who's a featherhead. Father is missing; I think the girls live with a relative. The family has money.

The only other thing I recall about the book is that it opened with Flavia mixing up a concoction to lace her sister's face cream.

The books are on my TBR list -- but for a change, I don't own them. Will need to rely on the library.

Now, please, someone who knows much more about Flavia jump in and correct me!

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 10:27 AM (+zDJ+)

145 I didn't get in on the kickstart for American Paladin so I'm waiting for it to come out in 2 days, not that I'm counting.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 10:28 AM (VCgbV)

146 It might as well be called "Technobabble: The Book!"

Stephen Baxter and Alistair Reynolds did a much better job of telling their version of this story in half the pages.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2026 09:51 AM (gnNyN)

It could be the perceived value of a book three inches thick instead of one and a half. If I'm not mistaken, 40k words is still considered a novel, but who wants to pay $20 for a 40k word book?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:29 AM (1Ff7Z)

147 I was intrigued by magical systems that had consequences, like physical drains on the sorcerer or his environs, or there was a price to pay for every warping of reality, a blowback that unintentionally transformed other aspects of the world long term. The impact had to be balanced against the desired result. Like magical radioactivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026


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Yes; a kind of magical Newtonian law. I've tinkered with the idea of inertia having to be considered too; that a colossal magical change to something in the world takes a little time to accomplish.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:29 AM (wzUl9)

148 A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of old greek homos"

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 10:30 AM (Kt19C)

149 I was intrigued by magical systems that had consequences, like physical drains on the sorcerer or his environs, or there was a price to pay for every warping of reality, a blowback that unintentionally transformed other aspects of the world long term. The impact had to be balanced against the desired result. Like magical radioactivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026

Gandalf vs The Balrog

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 10:31 AM (Q+gd/)

150
Since we're talking about the Ancient Greeks and fantasy...

There's very fun novel from the 1990s titled

"Celestial Matters" by Richard Garfinkle.

It's a Hard Science SF novel where the Science is that of the Ancient Greeks with the Geocentric and Aristolean models being true.

And the Greeks are in a fierce physical, ideological and philosophical battle against the Middle Kingdom (China) and their Taoist Science lasting hundreds of years.
The Greeks believe they can achieve victory with a piece of the true(?) fire of the Sun, and thus plan a space journey, aaaand go!

I've never read another novel like this one before or after. Fun, entertaining read and very unjustly neglected.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (iJfKG)

151 Avdynasty change in China would be something to see. ...from a distance. As for revolutions being coups, often that’s the case. I’ve argued that the Spanish in Mexico would have been much like that If the diseases that no body at the time knew the cause of or the cure for, the Spaniards would have been reasonably content to just sit in the place of the Aztec elite and collect the tribute. The Christian missionary aspect of the Spanish throws i little bit of a loop into that theory but without the devastating disease outbreaks, I think Mexico after the Spanish would be very like India after the Raj

Posted by: Who Knew at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (QeSDj)

152 Gandalf vs The Balrog
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2026 10:31 AM (Q+gd/)
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Loyal angel vs rebel angel.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (ZOv7s)

153 Thucydides who was quite a liar himself

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2026 10:36 AM (bXbFr)

154 See the kagan monograph

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 21, 2026 10:36 AM (bXbFr)

155 And apologies for all the typos. I’m trying to type on a iPad and defeat the spellcheck but not succeeding

Posted by: Who Knew at June 21, 2026 10:37 AM (QeSDj)

156 136 I believe Claudius was said to be working on a history of the Etruscans before he became emperor. Or maybe that was Robert Graves' invention?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

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I find it odd that the affairs of the early Romans were so intertwined with the Etruscans, but the Etruscan language was completely unrelated to Latin. If I'm not mistaken, Etruscan wasn't even an Indo-European language.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:38 AM (u/oMr)

157 I just finished Anthony Horowitz' "A Deadly Episode," another Horowitz and Hawthorne book.

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I finished it a few days ago and quite liked it. I didn't see the solution to either murder coming.

Speaking of Horowitz mysteries, I have two. I have a clear recollection of Amazon offering me the opportunity to pre-order a fourth Susan Ryeland novel some months ago to be released at the end of the year. I thought it ridiculous to pre-order so early but now there is no reference to this book anywhere. Second, in Deadly Episode, there are a couple references to this being the sixth book in the series when, in fact, it is only the fourth. What happened to the other two books?

Incidentally, I saw a guy on YT discussing differences betweent British and American English. One concerned the word "quite". The Brits use it to mean "almost" while we use to mean "very". So when I say I quite liked the book, I mean I liked it very much while Horowitz might interpret it as I almost liked it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:38 AM (ndZc7)

158 148 A Greek writer who lived just 100 years after Herodotus (his name escapes me) wrote “Herodotus is called the Father of old greek homos"

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All modern historians stand on the shoulders of Greek giant homos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:39 AM (u/oMr)

159 The recovery of the Herculeum scrolls is quite amazing. And a Herculean task!

I agree about multiple back ups of digital materials but still have no confidence in them. Too many ways to go wrong. Lack of power. Lack of software and machines to read them. (How many computer files are still usable after only a few decades?) Deteriorating storage media….
Posted by: JTB


Early his morning, randomly recalling a bit of video of my late brother and his then-wife, I was whelmed with remembering all the media that I hope, despite long odds, to someday digitize. Family film negatives I've never developed. Dad's old slides. Our old Super8 video, super-8mm films (some with sound!), VHS, even 16mm film. Every kind of digital media except 8" floppies, including Zip tapes that have a few files I'd really like to recover. Double-density double-sided 5" floppies from the Shack Model I days - yeah, those will be easy to recover.

Meanwhile, I haven't even got what's on the disk drives backed up sufficiently. And new drives cost a fortune, I hear.

Pixy recently wrote, it's not safe until you have backups in at least three formats on two different continents.

And keep away from volcanos!

Posted by: mindful webworker - preserve your memories, they're all that's left you -Paul Simon at June 21, 2026 10:40 AM (9bb3y)

160 I'm also in Paul Cantor's "Gilligan Unbound: Pop Culture in the Age of Globalization". In it he compares optimistic products of consensus culture, like Star Trek and Gilligan's Island, with later examples of more nihistic outlooks like The X-Files and The Simpsons (though I would argue that the latter two, especially The Simpsons, were sort of the last gasp of a broadly appealing cultural touchstone).

Fun fact: Sherwood Schwartz named the ill-fated SS Minnow after FCC Chairman Newton Minnow, who famously disparaged the "vast wasteland" of television.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:41 AM (kpS4V)

161 Based on China videos being smuggled out, I'd say the CCP is heading for a fall as the dynastic cycle grinds remorselessly on. In every dynasty there is a point where greed and corruption cripple the government, where it is easier to suppress bad news than fix the problems, and that is exactly where we are today, and the mainland Chinese are increasingly talking about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 21, 2026 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

That can't be true! I have it on good authority of someone who says he's the smartest person on the internet, that China is about to take over the world. It must just be capitalist running dog lies!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:41 AM (1Ff7Z)

162 I knew the sales of Malcolm Guite's epic ballad "Galahad and the Grail" were good and discovered they were better than I expected. The entire first run of all editions by the American and British publishers sold out and a second run was needed within a month of its debut. That run is selling fast.

The numbers aren't huge by NYT bestseller standards but I am amazed and encouraged at the reception. Volume two comes out in November. I heard the special, limited edition is already sold out.

FWIW, I think Guite's Arthuriad will end up in the same tier as Tennyson's Idylls of the King and might revitalize the ballad form for epic poetry.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 10:42 AM (yTvNw)

163 Gandalf vs The Balrog
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I want to see this staged as an MMA cagematch or with luchadors.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:43 AM (kpS4V)

164 I've never read another novel like this one before or after. Fun, entertaining read and very unjustly neglected.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2026 10:33 AM (iJfKG)

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I second the recommendation of Celestial Matters.

Garfinkle also wrote All Of An Instant, which is about the discovery of a realm outside of time. Adventurous stuff.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2026 10:45 AM (PiwSw)

165 What, did everybody fall asleep?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 21, 2026 10:53 AM (1Ff7Z)

166
I find it odd that the affairs of the early Romans were so intertwined with the Etruscans, but the Etruscan language was completely unrelated to Latin. If I'm not mistaken, Etruscan wasn't even an Indo-European language.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026


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The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from the Etruscans, I believe. And the latter are supposed to have come originally from Asia Minor, or somewhere out that way.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:53 AM (wzUl9)

167 Aargh. I just read the synopsis of the first Flavia de Luce book. Oh boy, did I screw things up. For openers, father is very much alive.

In an attempt to make amends, let me promote this website:

bookseriesinorder.com

You can search by author, character, or title.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 10:54 AM (+zDJ+)

168 Herodotus does frequently take the line of: "I don't say it's true, it's just what I heard."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Ah, the MSNOW approach. Incidentally, the MSM seems to be all in on the algae in the reflecting pool story because we haven't anything else to worry about. Here, for example, The Atlantic covers Big Algae

https://tinyurl.com/3fjjn3v8

and here Karoline Leavitt is forced to cover Algae-gate.

https://tinyurl.com/38czw65n

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 21, 2026 10:55 AM (ndZc7)

169 Aargh. I just read the synopsis of the first Flavia de Luce book. Oh boy, did I screw things up. For openers, father is very much alive.

In an attempt to make amends, let me promote this website:

bookseriesinorder.com

You can search by author, character, or title.
Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026


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Oh -- the Flavia books are a mystery series! Okay!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:57 AM (wzUl9)

170 The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from the Etruscans, I believe. And the latter are supposed to have come originally from Asia Minor, or somewhere out that way.

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For a time it was believed that the language of Linear B was related to Etruscan. Then someone figured out it was actually early Greek.

There was an idea tossed around once that had the Hittites related to the Etruscans, but I think that fell by the wayside when it was confirmed that Hittite was an Indo-European language.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 10:59 AM (u/oMr)

171 Haven't heard of Richard Garfinkle before, but he has a number of titles in the Kindle store (though not Celestial Matters or All In an Instant) and they look like strange & unusual stuff indeed.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:01 AM (q3u5l)

172 I do enjoy fantasy fiction but, it's true, it's mostly junk these days. I hate to say it, but if I see a female author's name, I'm likely to pass on it.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 21, 2026 10:24 AM (VCgbV)

Not just female authors. Female playwrights, directors, CEOs, pilots,.........

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:02 AM (5Jn8W)

173 Magic systems in so many stories seem to be, well, unsystematic. Magic, like tech, should have its own rules, and if there are exceptions they should be explained. It should also not be easy to work a spell, or then everybody could do it and why would you need professionals?

The two basic classical rules of magic, the Law of Similarity and the Law of Contagion, are a good start. But a clever writer will go beyond those.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 10:03 AM

I decided to ditch rules of magic in my writing because it was starting to feel like video game systems.

I was doodling the stairs of creation - I don't know the real name, but it's the stairs toward God with angels, then Man, then animals, and plants. I was trying to remember the different levels of angels and remembered an Irish legend that the magical people are just angels who remained neutral in the war of Heaven.

So my magic "system" is really about the nature of created beings and envy driving them to gain attributes they weren't meant to have.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2026 11:07 AM (ysTZR)

174 The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from gladiator movies.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:08 AM (Kt19C)

175 Thank you for the posting on the recovery of lost books. I can't begin to imagine how one reads the text embedded in a lump of carbon; but there it is.

In our collection is a volume of an encyclopedia published in the 19th century. The binding is falling apart, and in it is a portion of a newspaper article on the annexation of Texas. (In the mid-19th century, newspapers were printed on flatbed presses, using much higher quality paper than nowadays.) It's not quite the same as the recovery of a lost treatise by Archimedes, but it's a fragment of history nonetheless.

Posted by: Nemo at June 21, 2026 11:09 AM (4RPgu)

176 Spammer belowdecks in pixy's thread
Posted by: Metal Roofing at June 21, 2026 10:12 AM (8rrT7

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 11:09 AM (gKWVE)

177 " Copy early and often (and for the love of Ghu CHECK THAT THE BACKUP WORKS!)"

And when you get a new backup technology, the older ones' last duty is to serve as the source for moving its backups to the new tech.

Posted by: SDN at June 21, 2026 11:12 AM (0sMG6)

178 There was an idea tossed around once that had the Hittites related to the Etruscans, but I think that fell by the wayside when it was confirmed that Hittite was an Indo-European language.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026


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"Hittites?"

"Very big in ancient Mesopotamia. Big guys."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:13 AM (wzUl9)

179 174 The Romans got the idea of gladiatorial arena games from gladiator movies.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:08 AM (Kt19C)


*fistbump*

Posted by: Capt. Clarence Oveur at June 21, 2026 11:16 AM (PiwSw)

180 I tend to read children's fantasy books from the 1990s and before. It's not like YA: No smut, charming characters, and villains that don't have sympathetic backstories. I was sorry to learn that British author Gillian Philip was "cancelled"; the third book of her Ravenstorm Island series was published in German but the English publication was killed.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 21, 2026 11:18 AM (ysTZR)

181 Hittites were a big player in the region until the Late Bronze Age Collapse. After that, they never recovered as a major power and were reduced to a fragmented gaggle of inconsequential polities until the culture disappeared completely.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2026 11:20 AM (u/oMr)

182 Yes, most female bylines now are a turnoff for me. In older times there were Josephine Tey, Anne Rivers Siddons, Laura Z. Hobson, and a few others, as well as Agatha Christie. But they played fair -- gave us unpleasant female characters as well as heroic ones, heroic males as well as evil or clueless, etc. In other words, they showed more of the full range of humanity than do modern authors (of either sex), who are too busy doing the Girlboss/Dullwitted or Evil Man tropes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:21 AM (wzUl9)

183 This week's Kindle read was the "Space Mechanic" series by Jamie MacFarlane.

It is 1950, and WWII veteran Rix Banner is thoroughly enjoying the quiet life of small town America as he runs his auto repair shop. Then one evening, a pretty girl shows up at his garage and asks if he can fix her spaceship...

It's simple space opera, but it is notable for its lack of gore, sex, and foul language. There is not even a hint of The Message or pandering to Modern Audiences. I found it refreshing.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026 11:21 AM (5QSoL)

184 In that fight between Gandalf and the Balrog what exactly did happen?

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 11:22 AM (Ia/+0)

185 This week's Kindle read was the "Space Mechanic" series by Jamie MacFarlane.

It is 1950, and WWII veteran Rix Banner is thoroughly enjoying the quiet life of small town America as he runs his auto repair shop. Then one evening, a pretty girl shows up at his garage and asks if he can fix her spaceship...

It's simple space opera, but it is notable for its lack of gore, sex, and foul language. There is not even a hint of The Message or pandering to Modern Audiences. I found it refreshing.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 21, 2026


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Sounds very Heinleinesque, like his Have Space Suit -- Will Travel!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9)

186 In that fight between Gandalf and the Balrog what exactly did happen?
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026


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All I can recall is Gandalf and the Balrog falling off the bridge over the chasm, and Gandalf shouting up at the Fellowship members: "Fly, you fools!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:23 AM (wzUl9)

187 Sanford and son tv marathon. To aunt Esther:
I could put dough on the counter, push yo face in it and make gorilla cookies.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:26 AM (Kt19C)

188 "I have more faith in microfiche for long term preservation. So sayeth the curmudgeon."

I've been working on a project involving the city of Chicago in the year 1919. Much of the material is coming from newspapers preserved on microfilm. It's clear to me that a writer a century from now who wishes to write a similar project about our time is going to have a much tougher time of it. In part, that's because the newspaper, as a synopsis of events in a given place and time, no longer exists. And in part, it's because of the fragility of the media on which records of our time are being kept. I doubt whether more than a tiny fragment of what we're recording electronically will still exist a century from now. Despite our luxuriating in electronic media, our time may well be another dark age, in the sense that future historians will find it nearly impossible to learn what was happening in our here and now.

Posted by: Nemo at June 21, 2026 11:26 AM (4RPgu)

189 falling off the bridge over the chasm
Naw, that's Sherlock Holmes.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026 11:27 AM (Kt19C)

190 @169 --

Uh, yeah, that.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 11:27 AM (p/isN)

191 140 Based on China videos being smuggled out, I'd say the CCP is heading for a fall as the dynastic cycle grinds remorselessly on. In every dynasty there is a point where greed and corruption cripple the government, where it is easier to suppress bad news than fix the problems, and that is exactly where we are today, and the mainland Chinese are increasingly talking about it.”

Wait are we talking about California now?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:29 AM (nuNhM)

192 All I can recall is Gandalf and the Balrog falling off the bridge over the chasm, and Gandalf shouting up at the Fellowship members: "Fly, you fools!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

Or was that Sherlock Holmes?

Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026 11:30 AM (sl73Y)

193 Sanford and son tv marathon. To aunt Esther:
I could put dough on the counter, push yo face in it and make gorilla cookies.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 21, 2026


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I fondly recall when Ace was signing himself "Lamont the Big Dummy."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:31 AM (wzUl9)

194 ll I can recall is Gandalf and the Balrog falling off the bridge over the chasm, and Gandalf shouting up at the Fellowship members: "Fly, you fools!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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Or was that Sherlock Holmes?
Posted by: From about That Time at June 21, 2026


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Holmes left a very polite and civilized note for Watson before grappling with Moriarty at the falls.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:32 AM (wzUl9)

195 Sanford & Son --

Am I the only one with the impression that television comedy turned into an almost non-stop exchange of insults with the arrival of Norman Lear?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:34 AM (q3u5l)

196 Aunt Esther scene I remember:
Fred: “what kind of a name is Esther anyways? Where’d that come from?”
Aunt Esther: “I’ll have you know that my name is found in the Holy Bible itself!”
Fred: “oh yeah, didn’t Sampson kill a thousand men with yo’ jawbone?”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 11:35 AM (nuNhM)

197 I remember Gandalf and the Balrog plunging off a bridge. But as today has shown, my memory is fallible.

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 21, 2026 11:35 AM (p/isN)

198 Am I the only one with the impression that television comedy turned into an almost non-stop exchange of insults with the arrival of Norman Lear?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026


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I don't think you are alone. The modern age of more sophisticated TV comedy began with Mary Tyler Moore's show and the other MTM offerings. But it was Archie, Fred Sanford, George Jefferson, and many others that started the "relevant" era of comedy and the rapid-fire insult routines that had been the province of Don Rickles before that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:36 AM (wzUl9)

199 I don't think you are alone. The modern age of more sophisticated TV comedy began with Mary Tyler Moore's show and the other MTM offerings. But it was Archie, Fred Sanford, George Jefferson, and many others that started the "relevant" era of comedy and the rapid-fire insult routines that had been the province of Don Rickles before that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:36 AM (wzUl9)

The show that started it all: All In the Family.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:39 AM (g8Ew8)

200 Now that I think about it, "relevant" themes were prevalent in TV in the late '60s in drama shows. The Name of the Game, The Storefront Lawyers, Medical Center, Marcus Welby, all of those. The producers actually used the word "relevant" in their show descriptions, and the stories seemed to focus on youth rebellion, drugs, premarital sex, etc. As much as the networks would allow, of course -- which was more than they had allowed only five years or so before.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:40 AM (wzUl9)

201 After Gandalf meets backup with the travelers he tells of fighting the Balrog until he defeats it

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 11:41 AM (Ia/+0)

202 The show that started it all: All In the Family.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026


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Mary's series premiered about four months before AitF. But yes, Archie and his family began the full cycle of "topical" comedies, where a lot of the conflict had to do with then-modern morality and how America was changing from the old ways. Maude arguing with her daughter and husband, George Jefferson hating white people living nearby, all of that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:42 AM (wzUl9)

203 When it comes to modern fantasy or fiction in general, I tend to skip past female authors. With Sabrina Chase here and Sgt. Mom (Celia Hayes) I know I'll get an entertaining book but they are the exceptions. Recommendations from the Horde led me to Susannah Clarke. Most female fiction writers I enjoy wrote fifty years ago or more like Josephine Tey, Lucy Smith or Agatha Christie. Nonfiction and children's books like the Brambly Hedge stories are a different category.

Posted by: JTB at June 21, 2026 11:44 AM (yTvNw)

204 Been busy reading, but no time to report on any today.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2026 11:44 AM (Meyva)

205 Time for me to depart the Book Thread for today, but I shall be back (in a posting capacity) July 19. In lurker mode, always! They made the mistake of giving me Open Blogger permissions, bwahahaha.... Enjoy your books!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 21, 2026 11:44 AM (ee9bx)

206 Possibly off topic, I've sort of always had idea's for movies but never really had any drive to put pen to paper as they say, so I got the bug and was looking at screenwriting software, tried a couple of them, they were all way overly complex and gui centric.

So I'm a neovim/vim/cli kind of guy, so I bashed together a config that basically looks like a word processor from the 80's but has screenwriting hooks.

I've been testing it out with the screenplay to Sinners.

Basically copying the entire structure verbatim, it's working out pretty good.

I will say this, reading the screenplay to Sinners is fascinating because what's on paper is so dry and matter of fact, and quite frankly boring, that I have no idea how that film got made or had any interest.

I've also been reading screenplays in general and have discovered that a lot of great films do not come from the page at all.

Like reading the screenplay for Wedding Crashers, the screenplay is not funny at all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 11:45 AM (XV/Pl)

207 Dad died 58 years ago. I wish I'd had more time with him. Wonder if I'd have had a better relationship with him than did my two ornery older brothers.

The First Source and Universe Center has never revealed himself by name, only by nature. If we believe that we are the children of this Creator, it is only natural that we should eventually call him Father. But this is the name of our own choosing, and it grows out of the recognition of our personal relationship with the First Source and Center.
—The Urantia Book, Paper 1, Section 1, The Father's Name

I've been thinking about reading the UB again. Been a long time, although parts of it I've re-read often.

There was a time I started to tell on here, in serialized comments, about the interesting (to me, anyway) struggle of Urantia Bookies to preserve and protect the "original text," which struggle eventually vacated the copyright. I was discouraged in this effort by Oregon Muse, although suppressing my efforts was probably not his intent. Suggested no one was interested. Perhaps he was right.

Explore the first lines in the UB in mindful cartoon webwork format
Exploring the Foreword
https://bit.ly/natl-ubographic

Posted by: mindful webworker - preserve your memories, they're all that's left you -Paul Simon at June 21, 2026 11:46 AM (9bb3y)

208 Thirty plus years ago I bought a box full of books at an estate auction and in that box was a 1850's handbook for the Independent Order of Oddfellows.

It was falling to pieces, the muslin cover loose; the binding loose, but the pages were in fine condition - the spine was indeed shimmed with slips of text cut from some other book. It also had some interesting images - eye centered in the palm of a hand sort of thing.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 11:46 AM (fnZRl)

209 Yes, most female bylines now are a turnoff for me.

When you see a 20 or 30 fantasy book series on Amazon with a female name as the author, you can pretty well bet that it's AI generated mommy pron.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 11:48 AM (vTZFs)

210 Reading this week? Decided to put off Bleak House for a while. I'll take another run at it some time this year or early next. Am almost a quarter of the way through Brothers Karamazov, and also skipping around in Richard Matheson's haunted house novel Hell House.

That is, when I'm not busy creating redundant backups of the ebook files.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:49 AM (q3u5l)

211
It was falling to pieces, the muslin cover loose; the binding loose, but the pages were in fine condition - the spine was indeed shimmed with slips of text cut from some other book. It also had some interesting images - eye centered in the palm of a hand sort of thing.
Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 11:46 AM (fnZRl)

If you put it under a black light, it might be a treasure map.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:50 AM (g8Ew8)

212 The one screenplay I read that was pretty much word for word and beat for beat page to screen is Pulp Fiction.

Pretty much all Tarantino screenplays and movies are what you read is what you get.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 11:51 AM (XV/Pl)

213 > 208

There were a few other old books, one was a small book compilation of Norse mythology - the original owner had pressed a four-lear clover between pages - the clover was still perfectly preserved and green.

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 11:51 AM (fnZRl)

214 Aunt Esther scene I remember:
Fred: “what kind of a name is Esther anyways? Where’d that come from?”
Aunt Esther: “I’ll have you know that my name is found in the Holy Bible itself!”
Fred: “oh yeah, didn’t Sampson kill a thousand men with yo’ jawbone?”


And note that the punchline depends on the audience being familiar with the Bible. I doubt that joke would land today.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 11:52 AM (vTZFs)

215 Yes, most female bylines now are a turnoff for me.

When you see a 20 or 30 fantasy book series on Amazon with a female name as the author, you can pretty well bet that it's AI generated mommy pron.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2026 11:48 AM (vTZFs)

Putting the cock in cockatrice.

Posted by: Minotaurs ravaged my cooch! at June 21, 2026 11:53 AM (TbWk/)

216 Sometimes reading stage play scripts are disappointing too. If the playwright doesn't include stage directions and indications of *how* a character says something, it can come across very flat. Frederick Knott's script for Wait Until Dark is *not* like that -- it almost reads like a short story written in present tense. And Neil Simon's plays are usually fun to read; see The Odd Couple, for instance.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:54 AM (wzUl9)

217 A lot of William Goldman's scripts make fun reading. Some of Harlan Ellison's too, and Richard Matheson's. Haven't gotten to it yet, but I've been thinking about reading Frederic Raphael's script for the delightful movie Two for the Road; Raphael is also a novelist, so I imagine it'll be at least pretty readable.

Maybe a lot of great flicks don't come from the page, but without the page would the director and cast have much to work with?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 11:58 AM (q3u5l)

218 Of course the edition of the play script might be the issue regarding the readability. The acting script might have all the directions and cues in it. The transcripts published in those volumes of "The Ten Best of Broadway, 1967" might not.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:58 AM (wzUl9)

219 Anyway! A tip of the chapeau to Sabrina for leading a fine discussion with all your great people. Enjoy your Sunday!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 11:59 AM (wzUl9)

220 And I'm off to fail to do anything constructive today here at Casa Some Guy.

Thanks for the thread, Sabrina.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 21, 2026 12:00 PM (q3u5l)

221 Off to conquer the world (I do it so subtly and nefariously that few notice).

Read only good books! Or, failing that, top tier trash.

*disappears in a puff of lavender smoke and holographic glitter*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 12:00 PM (kpS4V)

222 If you put it under a black light, it might be a treasure map.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 21, 2026 11:50 AM (g8Ew

The funny part being that various groups both lunatic* and fun loving used Mount Shasta caves and lava tubes for initiation ceremonies. I bought the bought the box of books in the Shadow of Mount Shasta.

*The belief in Lemuria in Mt. Shasta
*Love Has Won

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 12:01 PM (fnZRl)

223 ALL BOOKS CLOSED, THERE WILL BE A TEST

NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 12:02 PM (Ia/+0)

224 I'm tellin' ya, my backup plan is bodice-rippers where housebound dipsomaniac former baristas on disability for their neuropathy get gangbanged by illegal immigrant capybarataurs and the stern but sensual Immigration & Creature Enforcement agents who hunt them.

I will publish this trash under the pseudonym "Cornelia Flickbean."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 21, 2026 12:04 PM (BI5O2)

225
Book Thread: West Coast Edition

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 12:05 PM (fnZRl)

226 @216

>>If the playwright doesn't include stage directions and indications of *how* a character says something, it can come across very flat.

Learning about scriptwriting, those are called parentheticals, and are generally used sparingly because the idea is that the actors will interpret how the lines are too be delivered.

Tarentino doesn't use them but will tell an actor exactly how his line will be delivered.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026 12:11 PM (XV/Pl)

227
Lemurians on Mt. Shasta by Dr. Clem Davies

https://archive.org/details/lemurians-on-mount-shasta

Posted by: 13times at June 21, 2026 12:13 PM (fnZRl)

228 >>If the playwright doesn't include stage directions and indications of *how* a character says something, it can come across very flat.

Learning about scriptwriting, those are called parentheticals, and are generally used sparingly because the idea is that the actors will interpret how the lines are too be delivered.

Tarentino doesn't use them but will tell an actor exactly how his line will be delivered.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 21, 2026


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Right, but I mean a reading copy for the general public. Certainly some of the stage directions can be carried over from the actual production.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 12:48 PM (wzUl9)

229 Current work on these carbonized scrolls can be found at the Vesuvius Challenge on Discord.

Posted by: Aawlberninf350 at June 21, 2026 01:08 PM (8RozV)

230 Greetings from the West Coast where it is still morning.

@13times: Thanks for the link in #227 about Lemurians in Mt. Shasta. My in-laws retired there, so we would camp in the area so our kids could visit with their grandparents. And it's beautiful country there in "The State of Jefferson."

There were some interesting independent bookstores in Mt. Shasta City, including some that were not "New Age." Bought the first volume of the "Outlander" series in one of the bookstores where the staff wrote notes to recommend books and placed them on the shelves.

Posted by: March Hare at June 21, 2026 01:28 PM (O/GSq)

231 Currently reading The Pyrates: A Gripping Adventure Satire of High Seas Duels and Buried Treasure by Geard MacDonald Fraser, of Flashman fame. DIL gave it to me as a Christmas present and apologized because it is a used copy of the trade paperback. I don't care--the fact the book is previously owned does not affect the story! However, my edition is 400+ pages and has tiny type. Pyrates may end up being my summer "big read."

Posted by: March Hare at June 21, 2026 01:34 PM (O/GSq)

232 I said my goal this year was to reread the Matt Helm novels. I'm about half way through my collection The Intriguers (1972), and the reference to Night Walker made me go look on that bookshelf, and, sure enough, there it is, on the end, along with a bunch of "other" Donald Hamilton books. It's a Gold Medal paperback, 60¢ cover price. I opened it carefully - the pages are yellow, and the whole book is dry - and checked the copyright date. 1954. Yep, Matt was still a Citizen, because "Death of a " is copyrighted in 1960.
A book like that is perfectly suited to Amazon's long-tail model, if it was converted to an ebook.
Which brings up the copyright issue and DRM. Proposed modification of DRM law: the code has to build in its expiration coincident with copyright expiration. When the © expires, the encryption disappears.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2026 02:15 PM (RW118)

233 There were some interesting independent bookstores in Mt. Shasta City, including some that were not "New Age." Bought the first volume of the "Outlander" series in one of the bookstores where the staff wrote notes to recommend books and placed them on the shelves.
Posted by: March Hare
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I climbed (Actually slogged, since there is practically no technical climbing on the easy route to the top. You pant a lot at 14k) Mt Shasta in the mid-70s. The town then was much, much, smaller. On forays up and down I5 in the 90s, we'd always stop at the original Black Bear Diner there. My last, not pleasant, visit 5 years ago emphasized how big it has grown. My truck sprung a diesel.leak under the hood at 10 in the evening, and I wound up in a hotel there. The next morning, I started finding a garage to look at it. There were now 4 garages doing diesel work in Mt Shasta city. (It was the regulator fitting). North of Reading, inland NorCal is one big summer resort. Bookstores are a standard resort business. Glad you found a good one.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 21, 2026 02:35 PM (RW118)

234
160 I'm also in Paul Cantor's "Gilligan Unbound: Pop Culture in the Age of Globalization". In it he compares optimistic products of consensus culture, like Star Trek and Gilligan's Island . . .

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2026 10:41 AM (kpS4V)

***

Those poor people!

Posted by: Mathesar at June 21, 2026 03:03 PM (TPFQA)

235
Happy Fathers day to the fathers estranged from their sons for TDS. I still love you.

Posted by: frankly at June 21, 2026 08:05 PM (ACKqg)

236 Very interesting article, Open Blogger. Thanks.

Posted by: Pooklord at June 21, 2026 08:44 PM (9MAOs)

Daily Tech News 21 June 2026

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Disclaimer: Mada fada coconut.

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:32 AM (3UbC6)

2 w00t

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

3 Good sunshiny summer Sunday morning! Exercised, showered, and hydrated.

Gets up, lazies!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:37 AM (3UbC6)

4 Guten morgen. horde.

Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2026 04:38 AM (I5lp2)

5 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 21, 2026 04:40 AM (Hpgos)

6 Psy - Gentleman
He seems nice.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

7 >>>Psy - Gentleman
He seems nice.

Posted by: m

>Interesting. Nice editing and directing. What genre would you call that?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 04:48 AM (fkjGs)

8 Good morning all, time for me to try and go to sleep.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 21, 2026 04:48 AM (Q/FnY)

9
I forgot about this silliness. Sunrise at Stonehenge. That happen a little before midnight EDT:

https://t.ly/i5pu9

Sunrise happens there at about 1:10 in. The Druids blow some damned horn or something. Now, I don't know why they don't put a camera right dead center so they can show the sun rise over the Heel Stone.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 04:49 AM (w6EFb)

10 Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 04:52 AM (O7YUW)

11 Care for our children . Proverbs 13:1. International Fellowship of Christians and Jews:

https://tinyurl.com/4dnj2ef9

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:52 AM (dSKRp)

12 3 Good sunshiny summer Sunday morning! Exercised, showered, and hydrated.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:37 AM (3UbC6)

I failed to hydrate before going to bed and that was a big mistake.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:53 AM (6wpGE)

13 >Interesting. Nice editing and directing. What genre would you call that?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 04:48 AM (fkjGs)
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Korean Rot.

Psy is most famous for Gangnum Style:

https://youtu.be/9bZkp7q19f0

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 04:54 AM (3UbC6)

14 God the Father. Christian devotional on Ephesians 3:16-19:

https://tinyurl.com/5mu4y9va

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:54 AM (dSKRp)

15 G'mornin' everyone!

lovely foggy morning out there, 44 degrees, and I'm getting ready for a hit-the-trailhead-at-dawn hike!

making extra coffee, woohoo!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 21, 2026 04:57 AM (VyBeY)

16 Officer plays piano to comfort family after father's fall and after he is taken care of. Faithpot site :

https://tinyurl.com/499bvm84

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:58 AM (n3VHW)

17 From the AOS home page Top Headlines side column:

Paul Sperry

NEW: Just heard something extraordinary from a former White House official who worked with former National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster in Trump45's NSC: "McMaster had weekly phone calls with George Soros. We have no idea why." Neither could be reached for comment.

-

All the signs were there. I first read about the deep statesman McMaster in the 2020 book, "The Memo: Twenty Years Inside the Deep State Fighting for America First, by Rich Higgins.

Higgins kept trying to send a message way upstream to Trump WH no. 1 that something was very rotten in the NSC, where McMaster ruled.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 05:01 AM (3UbC6)

18 @7/Rev. Wishbone: " What genre would you call that?"

My first thought was "weird" but in actuality I believe it's K-pop (Korean pop).

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 05:02 AM (O7YUW)

19 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at June 21, 2026 05:06 AM (V0/Sp)

20 Shuttle driver goes into rushing water to save people:

https://tinyurl.com/4nzjtc5u

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:09 AM (OYsYV)

21
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 21, 2026 05:12 AM (AMvSw)

22 The soft breeze caressing the tree
Leaves gently swaying in line
Warm summer sunlight will agree
That all is right and fine

The soft scent of flowering hedge rows
Deepens our love of beauty
Colorful birds line up to pose
As if this were a call to duty

Raise your eyes up to the sky
Let your voice call to the breeze
And let all know that as we fly
All may do as they please


fin

Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2026 05:18 AM (I5lp2)

23 Posted by: clarence at June 21, 2026 05:18 AM (I5lp2

Lovely. Thanks!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:20 AM (n3VHW)

24 I am very grateful to FenSpouse who is a good man and dad ,and who is kindly preaching for me on Father's Day because I cannot talk about being a father,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:23 AM (n3VHW)

25 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 21, 2026 05:29 AM (NyXeV)

26 @24/FenelonSpoke: I'm glad FenSpouse is a good husband and father, whose presence in your life brings you joy. This is how it should be.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 05:30 AM (O7YUW)

27 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 05:30 AM (O7YUW)

Thanks. That's very kind of you. He also makes me laugh - which is important in a relationship ( at least for me) I think.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:33 AM (OYsYV)

28 Good morning you tech oriented early risers or up laters. And Pixy

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 21, 2026 05:34 AM (CUnWa)

29 If I put out a whiteboard sign. "My husband is not a non gestating parent. Happy Father's Day!" Someone would knock over the sign, right?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:38 AM (dSKRp)

30 We had a nice picnic with conservatives at the park yesterday . This year nobody defaced the signs or put rude graffiti up at the entrance to the park. I am glad about that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:40 AM (OYsYV)

31 So I figured out what was obvious to everyone else. My use of ExpressVPN made all the videos on AoS HQ "not available".

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 21, 2026 05:47 AM (4+cmr)

32 G'morning, all!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 05:47 AM (iMotb)

33 My use of ExpressVPN made all the videos on AoS HQ "not available".

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 21, 2026 05:47 AM (4+cmr)
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Sometimes, changing servers under the VPN resolves such issues.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 05:53 AM (3UbC6)

34 G'Day everyone
Happy Father's day toalldadsout there

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:53 AM (Ia/+0)

35
Good morning, Hordians. Can't go to church this morning, and maybe not today, because about half my driveway is several inches under water.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 05:54 AM (O0L8i)

36 ...toalldadsout there

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 05:53 AM (Ia/+0)
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I need some space!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 05:54 AM (3UbC6)

37 We had a nice picnic with conservatives at the park yesterday . This year nobody defaced the signs or put rude graffiti up at the entrance to the park. I am glad about that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 05:40 AM (OYsYV)
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That's so nice to hear! So did we, in fact! 😄

Missed you, VIA. Hope you and the missus can come next time.

Happy Father's Day to all our Hordeling dads. God bless them all.

Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 05:55 AM (afFes)

38 So the Volvo Intake gasket and various other small parts scheduled to arrive via FedEx between 1100-1500 did not arrive till after 2130 last night. So needles to say, the wagon did not get fixed last night.

BUT....hijinks of the political kind did rear its head yesterday during the leadoff to this Tuesdays run-off election.

I get a text in the middle of the day. And it starts with my name, and goes on to tell me how it is time to support one of the state candidates whom we shall simply call Jenny. And it tells me how she is great for women, supports all the major leftist women's causes, and we need to rally to support her.

But something, from the statements, which go completely against her platform, to the photo, which is a rather unflattering photo all make me suspect that this is an attempt to turn conservatives against her on Tuesday and vote for her opponent.

So I sent her campaign an email with a screenshot of the email that I received, and less than thirty minutes later the actual candidate called me directly, and we talked for over ten minutes.

As I suspected, someone supporting her opponent in the runoff is sending this out, quite possibly in violation of the law.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 05:58 AM (iMotb)

39 Bluebell!


We so wanted to come as well.

Perhaps next year, if we can pull it off.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 05:59 AM (iMotb)

40 Evening and morning to the vast AoSHQ Empire's satellites and satraps, on this first true morning of summer!

I dreamed I was part of a vast evacuation ahead of some apocalyptic event. My boss said,"We need to get you a gun," and we went to the armory. Nobody else was there, but guns kept vanishing from the tables even as I looked. I grabbed a .38 revolver and a box of shells before it disappeared.

Later there was some discussion about restoring medical databases after The Event. "We don't have any programmers for Cameron!" I spoke up and said, "I know it." Someone else complained that the developers had located one table *inside* of another. I explained lucidly how a one-to-many relationship works. (How we had time for this when civilization was about to collapse is beyond me.)

So. Howz yer Sunday morning?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 06:00 AM (wzUl9)

41 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Lime + coconut = drink it all up

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (amcLV)

42 I don't know why my fingers can't hit space button

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)

43 This morning at least, big black Stirling cat waited until I was nearly awake before leaping across and kicking me. Now he's sitting here on the couch giving me the "I want a lap" look.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 06:06 AM (wzUl9)

44 If you have not been watching Freddy visit and document the US, you're missing some good fun.

https://tinyurl.com/mr3ssaxk

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 06:07 AM (iMotb)

45 Psy is most famous for Gangnum Style:
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I prefer Klingon Style:

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=CayMeza487M

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 21, 2026 06:09 AM (amcLV)

46 If you have not been watching Freddy visit and document the US, you're missing some good fun.

https://tinyurl.com/mr3ssaxk

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 06:07 AM (iMotb)
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OK. Not Elm Street Freddy.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 06:14 AM (3UbC6)

47 Happy Father's Day to all our Hordeling dads. God bless them all.
Posted by: bluebell at June 21, 2026 05:55 AM (afFes

Thanks, bluebell . Same to you and your husband as well. Next year I will not have a picnic, nor a service I need to be at on Sunday,, so God willing and the event is still on. I will be there. Thanks to you and all the folks who got things together!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 06:15 AM (6jy2V)

48 I don't know why my fingers can't hit space button

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)
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Were you drinking at the ONT again?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 06:15 AM (3UbC6)

49 Happy Fathers Day!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 06:15 AM (DoBxX)

50 >>> I explained lucidly how a one-to-many relationship works

Collapse: When the Null Hits the Boyce-Codd Normal Fan

Posted by: fluffy at June 21, 2026 06:17 AM (V0/Sp)

51 Good morning! Had a hop up to Kickapoo and back yesterday. Lots of scattered cumulus and a little headwind to deal with but overall a very pleasant excursion. Gotta do pennance today and mow the lawn and do some chores around the house.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 06:17 AM (3Ope8)

52 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:22 AM (whRlH)

53 @27/FenelonSpoke: "... He also makes me laugh - which is important in a relationship ( at least for me) I think."

Very important. I try to make my wife laugh at least once daily. Sometimes, rarely, I can get the type of laughter where she's giggling so hard she has to sit down on the floor exactly where she is. Big win when that happens. :-)

I also have a regular caution I give her before she heads off to drive for work or errands: "Watch out for stupid out there, it's legion". I'm sure FenSpouse will appreciate that one as well!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 06:24 AM (O7YUW)

54 My mother made the poor choice of feeding laughing gulls.

Posted by: Accomack at June 21, 2026 06:30 AM (/Chlc)

55 The MoMeet was excellent. Thanks go to bluebell and Weasel for the organization. The participants were delightful to talk with.

I plan to tell my friends I talked with Bunny. Who is a good conversationalist. I may leave that part out.

After the TxMoMeet, on my return my friends wanted details, because I talklked up the experience before going. I told them I got served bacon by a Bacon Wench and danced with Bunny. There was an imediate silence as they continplated my wayward path.

No bail money was needed yesterday, at least by the time I want. And CBD with a Fed sticker on his back was ... *chef's kiss*.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:32 AM (whRlH)

56 Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:32 AM (whRlH)
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Sounds like everybody was fed.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 06:35 AM (3UbC6)

57 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top of ta mornin to ya, govoner.

You were missed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:35 AM (whRlH)

58 Went to Google this morning. The banner/doodle has something about it being "Indigenous People's Day". Not sure if that's a "Canada only" localization. It might be.

Once again though, Google aligns with the leftists/globalist stance on the nuclear family: Minimize it, ignore it, don't recognize it whatever you do. Jerks.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 06:36 AM (O7YUW)

59 Salty!



Yes, we missed being there as well.

Life has been busy lately, but I suspect that it will slow down here in a bit. Then we can get back to the important things.

Like spending time with friends.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2026 06:37 AM (iMotb)

60 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,

In the past it was a catered meeting, with good food. This time the local bar and grill sufficed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:38 AM (whRlH)

61 Happy Summer (or for Pixy, Winter) Solstice. It happened a couple of hours ago at 4.24 am EDT.

Summer here in SC is like a bad house guest. Arrives too early and stays too long.

Oh well. You can buy a house here and in 20 years it's worth 30% more.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 21, 2026 06:40 AM (qFwJc)

62 Village Idiot's Apprentice

The saga of Freddy the German is amazing. As are a number of other overseas guests that discovered the part of America outside the decaying urban cores.

That is heartwarming.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:41 AM (whRlH)

63 118 days til the TXMoMe

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:43 AM (afJtY)

64 Low 80s all week, I will take that gladly

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:45 AM (Ia/+0)

Posted by: . at June 21, 2026 06:47 AM (sOa7t)

66 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 06:24 AM (O7YUW)

That's great!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 06:48 AM (1Vo6X)

67 {{{Ben Had}}}

You and your circle show true Texas hospitality. Time spent there is incredibly healing. Good people, good times.

One true gift of America is the spontanious formation of groups with a purpose. This is in line with Alexis de Tocqueville's observations noted in Democracy in America (1835)

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:49 AM (whRlH)

68 NaCly, all praise goes to the wonderful Horde.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2026 06:52 AM (afJtY)

69 Have a great day, everyone.

May you all be blessed by your company, and travels be safe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:54 AM (whRlH)

70 I prefer Klingon Style:
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=CayMeza487M
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea

I like the Blue Grass style.
https://tinyurl.com/4k3mk86z

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 21, 2026 06:55 AM (l26NL)

71 Well, more Beelink adventures. When I had all the drives in there, it went into a repair loop. So I pulled out all the drives and rebooted and it went into a proper Windows setup, which froze right around the time I was supposed to pick a PIN. I let it go all night and it was still stuck this morning.

Odd how it wouldn't start with the drives in place. I thought I had formatted them all, but maybe I didn't.

Will try again later. I'll probably end up putting TRUENas on but I figured it'd see what it could do on its own.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2026 06:56 AM (CHHv1)

72 Good morning morons

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 06:56 AM (6h45X)

73 In 118 days I should run away from home

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:58 AM (Ia/+0)

74 Good morning and Happy Father's Day!

Posted by: Merlin Lu at June 21, 2026 07:03 AM (PwgSL)

75 A cup of coffee and a pup in your lap is a simple treat. Pretty warm and humid this morning, and not quite sunrise but the birds are already at the feeders.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 07:04 AM (3Ope8)

76 Iran already saying it is the Toll Booth taker at the Hormuz Dog Leg?
If so the entire operation should be ran like crossing the Atlantic Ocean in 1943, destroy anything to open it.

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 07:05 AM (Ia/+0)

77 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 21, 2026 07:12 AM (h0AkI)

78 Here's what we saw on our abbreviated walk: Butterfly weed

https://tinyurl.com/474kk5sy

and black eyed Susan which is one of my favorite flowers? and we just passed a doe and her spotted fawn.

May everyone have a blessed day, and know that you are a blessing to others!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 07:13 AM (m6Eem)

79 Happy Fathers’ day traditional families!
Although we have a beloved non-traditional family that is close to us, I still insist that a 100% varsity grade father should be:
POP = person of pen1s, or:
PPP = person possessing pen1s

( yeah, I’m still reluctant to spell out certain words on social media that is probably subject to snooping)

Posted by: Fenderbender at June 21, 2026 07:14 AM (1FEc1)

80
So. Howz yer Sunday morning?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 06:00 AM (wzUl9)


Wet

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 07:21 AM (O0L8i)

81 @40/Wolfus: "So. Howz yer Sunday morning?"

Sunny, delightfully cool (58 deg F). Humidity is at 93% though so I'd better enjoy the morning before it turns into "warmer and muggier". (Rain/thunderstorms are forecast starting at 2 PM.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026 07:29 AM (O7YUW)

82 So. Howz yer Sunday morning?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026
*
Wet
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026


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As I finished my workout and was on the way back to my door, a light sprinkle of rain began to fall. As if we hadn't had enough of that stuff this week.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 07:30 AM (wzUl9)

83 I attended my first MoMe yesterday and was whelmed! Meeting my imaginary friends was one of the finest days of my very long life. Can’t wait to do it again. Don’t cheat yourselves out of an opportunity to attend one.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:31 AM (z6ONu)

84 Clear and calm here in Cowtown. Well, until I start the mower in a couple of hours.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 21, 2026 07:33 AM (3Ope8)

85 Howz yer Sunday morning?"
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Sunny, delightfully cool (58 deg F). Humidity is at 93% though so I'd better enjoy the morning before it turns into "warmer and muggier". (Rain/thunderstorms are forecast starting at 2 PM.)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 21, 2026


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I can't remember when I last saw 58 here. In Kansas in April, yes, but here? Maybe in January.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 07:33 AM (wzUl9)

86 Happy Dad's Day.

Mostly sunny and 64F here in Bourbon Country this morning. No chores await (that I'm aware of) so it should be a relaxing day.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2026 07:37 AM (jehhT)

87 Thanks to Bluebell and Weasel and all the attendees for making me welcome and sharing stories with me. Love you folks very much, and look forward to the next time, God willing.

Posted by: Buck at June 21, 2026 07:41 AM (z6ONu)

88 Heute ist der langste tag

it's odd that peak summer comes on the first day
it should be in the middle somewhere

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 07:41 AM (sOa7t)

89 it's odd that peak summer comes on the first day
it should be in the middle somewhere
Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 07:41 AM (sOa7t)
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No love for July 4th?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 07:47 AM (6h45X)

90 As I finished my workout and was on the way back to my door, a light sprinkle of rain began to fall. "

It's pouring here. I'll send it east to you.

Posted by: man at June 21, 2026 07:50 AM (XuXeR)

91 sure
why

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 07:51 AM (sOa7t)

92 As usual, I read the ONT late.
Since the recent election, I have renamed the “Commonwealth of Virginia” to “Commontrash of Virginia”, at least in my head.

Posted by: Fenderbender at June 21, 2026 07:54 AM (1FEc1)

93 >> it's odd that peak summer comes on the first day
it should be in the middle somewhere

The so-called solar seasons definition does just that. The solstices and equinoxes are the mid-points of each season, with the cross-quarter points being the boundaries.

The problem is what you mean by "peak" summer. Insolation wise, the solar season are the best. But, as for temperature/climate, inertia gives about a 1 month delay between peak insolation and peak "summer weather" (except where it doesn't, and June and Dec are the hottest and coldest). The meteorological seasons are the best match for that. Summer begins June 1st and ends Sept 1.

Astronomical seasons have always been traditional, as it divides the seasons into nice quadrants off the ecliptic.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 08:00 AM (w6EFb)

94 Asked ChatGPT is the NY Times had reported either on Rupert Lowe's Rape scandal report or Tulsi Gabbard's release of the files on Fauci.

Survey says "No."

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 21, 2026 08:01 AM (b4LBp)

95 Miss Linda will make waffles for us later, and possibly eggs, so I'm just having a portion of donut with my coffee. It's a Walmart donut with zebra-striped icing.

House of Strangers w/ Edward G. Robinson and Susan Hayward is on Movies! tonight at 7 Central. Today is Father's Day movies, with Father of the Bride, Father's Little Dividend,, and Cheaper by the Dozen. In real life Clifton Webb might have been queerer than a three-dollar bill, but he was great on film, both in comedy and drama. His dramatic turn in the 1953 Titanic is excellent.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 08:03 AM (wzUl9)

96 damn it was a throwaway comment

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 08:05 AM (sOa7t)

97 It's pouring here. I'll send it east to you.
Posted by: man at June 21, 2026


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I like the look and sound of it, but it doesn't make things any cooler here.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 21, 2026 08:05 AM (wzUl9)

98 Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,

In the past it was a catered meeting, with good food. This time the local bar and grill sufficed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 21, 2026 06:38 AM (whRlH)
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Pun lost. Sigh!

/stovetop coffee in hand to cheer me up

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:06 AM (3UbC6)

99 damn it was a throwaway comment

Posted by: Don Black at June 21, 2026 08:05 AM (sOa7t)
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So... dispostable?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:07 AM (3UbC6)

100 m

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:08 AM (3UbC6)

101 I keep mashing F5 looking for the Book thread then realized I'm in Mountain time

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 08:10 AM (6h45X)

102 damn it was a throwaway comment
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Heh Are you new here

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 08:11 AM (6h45X)

103 Pun lost. Sigh!

/stovetop coffee in hand to cheer me up
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:06 AM (3UbC6)
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As an anti-puntite this pleases me

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 21, 2026 08:15 AM (6h45X)

104 And coming up on Wide World of Sports, it's the Pougkeepse Punaphobes vs the Pocatello Punaphiles.

And now a word from our sponsor...

Posted by: Deep Voiced Announcer at June 21, 2026 08:19 AM (VRoVL)

105 And coming up on Wide World of Sports, it's the Pougkeepse Punaphobes vs the Pocatello Punaphiles.

And now a word from our sponsor...

Posted by: Deep Voiced Announcer at June 21, 2026 08:19 AM (VRoVL)
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https://tinyurl.com/3x2zsea4

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 08:23 AM (3UbC6)

106 - Prayers for the folks out in western part of Kansas.
Straightline winds that hit 100mph a few times.
Attendant rain and hail,,, and dust.
Storm chasers with cracked and broken windshields showed the story.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 21, 2026 08:29 AM (5gyQ/)

107 Worse part of day is over
Grocery shopping

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 08:29 AM (Ia/+0)

108 "All the signs were there. I first read about the deep statesman McMaster in the 2020 book, "The Memo: Twenty Years Inside the Deep State Fighting for America First, by Rich Higgins."

(post 1 of 2)

Sigh. I wonder about my fellow West Pointers sometimes; at some point, you realize that nobody gives a shit about those that aren't glorious failures and/or glorious successes.

I was a tanker and then switched to being a signal puke. You can believe I was an West Point grad or not; I don't particularly care. I wasn't a glorious failure but I never made O4 despite staying in for 12 years; that's a merely being a failure. So keep that in mind when you read the rest.

For example, Pompeo was a West Pointer; he punched out after his 5 year commitment and became a lawyer. Oh, he was a tanker as well. Not a company/troop commander, for what that's worth.

McMaster was also West Pointer. McMaster commanded one of the units that got shot at in Gulf War I (that was him as an O-3 in the battle of 73 Easting). He, too, was a tanker and a company/troop commander.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 21, 2026 08:35 AM (vU0j9)

109 Happy Father's Day, gents..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 08:36 AM (nbLIj)

110 I don't know how well a "perpetual licence" can work for support. For ownership, sure.
Perpetual licence for support smells like slavery.
Also how the hell can company A sell a promise to thousands of people, pocket the money, and then sell the liabilities to company B then bugger off to Bermuda.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 08:48 AM (gKWVE)

111
Sigh. I wonder about my fellow West Pointers sometimes; at some point, you realize that nobody gives a shit about those that aren't glorious failures and/or glorious successes.

Makes you wonder, and the data should be available. What percentage of officers are ring knockers? What percentage of newly-minted officers are? What percentage of officers with X years are?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2026 08:49 AM (O0L8i)

112 it's the Pougkeepse Punaphobes vs the Pocatello Punaphiles.

Ah yes, the eternal "cougar" debate

Posted by: gKWVE at June 21, 2026 08:50 AM (gKWVE)

113 Son and family are coming up today from the city. Two granddaughters 8 and 10 will be getting on paddleboards, and I hope to be able to stand on one also. The lake is like glass right now. My balance is not what it was when I was 70. I baked him a loaf of very seedy sourdough bread for Fathers' Day.

Posted by: M. Gaga at June 21, 2026 08:50 AM (zeLd4)

114 Sunrise happens there at about 1:10 in. The Druids blow some damned horn or something. Now, I don't know why they don't put a camera right dead center so they can show the sun rise over the Heel Stone.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
+++
Today my umbrella begins it's slow trip back to the southern end of the porch as the angle of the sunlight slowly changes for my breakfast each morning.
I don't have a Druid horn though.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 21, 2026 08:51 AM (Lo97M)

115 It amazes me at MoMe's how morons can remember everything. I recognize nics but I can't remember all their comments, yet we have morons that seemingly remember every comment from every nic and can put it all together! Amazing!

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at June 21, 2026 08:55 AM (VCgbV)

116 In Ancient Times
Hundreds of Years before the Dawn of History
Lived a strange race of people, the Druids
No one knows who they were, or what they were doing
But their legacy remains...

Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at June 21, 2026 08:56 AM (PiwSw)

117 I don't know why my fingers can't hit space button
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)

Beenhavingthesameproblemlately.Mustbealiens.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 21, 2026 08:59 AM (5xuJ/)

118 Ah, yes. Father's Day. Ranks just below Arbor Day in the Holiday Popularity rankings.
Here, have another set of drill bits. The cheap ones.

Posted by: Dads everywhere at June 21, 2026 09:03 AM (eDbqp)

119 (post 2 of 2)

Sorry, I'm not sure where this was going.

Some members of the classes 1983, 1982, and 1981 will know who I am, if for no other reason that "Oh, THAT dickhead".

I'm not unknown within my class (1980), but I've removed myself from the class mailing list that West Pointers have due to my providing more heat than light in our discussions there.

To discuss 2 important current West Pointers....

Pompeo and his cabal went to Harvard; that, in and of itself, tells you how he would turn out. The fact that he was able to use the West Point sieve/hammer/flame to produce a posse is worth some analysis. Maybe VDH could provide some insights.

McMaster didn't get hazed by me since he was in the class of 1984. He did appear to have a somewhat privileged life, since he didn't go to a public school prior to getting a West Point slot.

I'm thinking of my classmates; the first class with women in it (some of whom have come clean that they lied about their sexual orientation as part of the initial screening process), the class that had the focus about the cheating scandal from the class of 1976 (despite the lying lesbians referenced earlier).

TMI for this format. Done.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 21, 2026 09:19 AM (vU0j9)

120 'Morning, and Happy Father's Day!

Knew the VAMoMe would be rated nothing less than fabulous, especially given the hosts and weather. 👍

--
P.S. - The musical interlude was just...cruel. (Note this opinion comes from someone who laughed at the local Bloodhound Gang.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 21, 2026 09:20 AM (NFX2v)

121 AMD and Intel have unveiled their new ACE instruction set, which extends AVX vector instructions into matrix calculations.

Will the ACE instruction set be shelved? Will those shelves fall down?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2026 09:27 AM (l3cgK)

122 "Makes you wonder, and the data should be available. What percentage of officers are ring knockers? What percentage of newly-minted officers are? What percentage of officers with X years are?"

Well, ROTC provides the bulk of new officers; the academies crank out ~1,000 new officers. Army ROTC provides ~5,000
new officers.

The Navy and Air Force have their own numbers. I was neither a squid nor a zoomie, so I don't care about their numbers.

(As a former ground-pounder, I liked being able to think that the think flying above was one of ours. As a former ground-pounder, I'm not sure how any soldier can survive in the modern battlefield. Much less any vehicle.)

Posted by: Richard Cranium at June 21, 2026 09:46 AM (vU0j9)

123 Hello it's me, I am also visiting this web site regularly, this
web page is actually pleasant and the people are
genuinely sharing nice thoughts.

Posted by: Metal Roofing at June 21, 2026 10:12 AM (8rrT7)

124 Wonder if Red China has a million Claude subscriptions?
Good way to bankrupt a competitor.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 21, 2026 12:54 PM (Skc+N)

125 always i used to read smaller articles that
also clear their motive, and that is also happening
with this article which I am reading at this place.

Posted by: Commercial Roofing at June 21, 2026 06:16 PM (fFRIG)

126 Re: “RISC philosophy”

I was working in the industry when RISC came up. Even then, no one could agree on exactly what it was.

Initially people associated RISC with simple instructions running at high clock rates. And that was largely true for gen1. Once superscalar & out of order came into the chat, it wasn’t so simple. I spent a lot of time doing high performance machine code for both gen1 & superscalar/OOO.

Posted by: Mike at June 21, 2026 09:58 PM (bWB2b)

Saturday Night Club ONT - June 20, 2026 [D Squared]

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Welcome to Club ONT - a collaboration of The Disco and The Dino. We built this place for you so you can have some fun. Come in in, grab a drink or 3. Keep it light and friendly. Jerks need not enter the premises (the moose out front is keeping watch).

[Top photo: The first NoVa MoMe since the election of Virginia Governor Spanberger took place today. The state was on alert!]

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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

Randy, the painter, often thinned his paint to make it go further. The Baptist Church decided to restore its biggest building. Randy put in a low bid and got the job. He bought the paint, and thinned it with turpentine. Well, Randy was painting away, the job nearly completed, when suddenly there was a clap of thunder. The sky opened, and the rain poured down. It washed the thinned paint off the church. Randy fell from the scaffold, landing among the gravestones. He was no fool. He knew this was a judgment from the Almighty.

Randy raised his voice to the heavens, crying, "Oh, God, forgive me; what should I do?"

And from above, a mighty voice roared: “Repaint! Repaint! And thin no more!"

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O'Brien lived alone in the Irish countryside for many years, with just his dog for company.

One day, the dog died, and O'Brien went to see Father Mullaney, the parish priest.

"Father, me darlin' pup has passed on. I was wonderin', could ya be sayin' a mass for the poor creature?"

"Ah, I'm afraid not, we can't be havin' services for an animal in the church. But there's a few Baptists down the road and there's no tellin' what they're believin' in. Maybe they'll do somethin' for the poor creature."

"I'll be headin' off straight away, Father. Do ye think five grand would be enough to donate for the service?"

"Sweet Mary, mother o' Jesus! Why didn't ye tell me the dog was a bleedin' Catholic?"


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Drink of the Night

We have arrived at the sevens in our deck of playing card cocktails. Tonight we feature the 7 of hearts

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Club ONT Department of MoMe Reflections

As mentioned above, the 2026 NoVa MoMe took place today. Yuuuuuuge thanks to bluebell and Weasel for organizing another fun gathering! (Despite the official title "WeaselBell Productions", notice that we here at Club ONT know full well who to mention first when discussing the respective members of said team).

For the most part, the event went off as planned. JJ Sefton wasn't in attendance, but he used the weather machine to dial up perfect weather for us! Several NoVa MoMe veterans were in attendance, and we also had a few new folks

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Always good to see new faces at a MoMe! If you've never attended one, we implore you to do so at the next opportunity! Seriously, even those of you who are shy or akward - or even ugly and stinky - we want you there! You can sit in a corner or behind a flowerpot wearing a "Lurker" name tag and just observe the event. Weasel himself pretty much just sits off to the side watching. If he can do it, so can you. C'mon - just go!

As for today, there were a couple of things worth noting.

First off - a person of questionable attire showed up. Khakis, dark colored polo shirt, and sunglasses. Someone (you know who you are!) stuck a warning label on his back. And we were VERY careful what we said around him.

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Secondly - this one is quite puzzling. We do not quite know what happened here.

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The most plausible explanation is that our good friend Piper - who you may recall succumbed to a tumor a few weeks ago - was reincarnated as a doggeh and made it to the MoMe today. No further information is available as of yet. We will keep you posted.


So -- will we be seeing you in Texas in October for TxMoMe XI???

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Club ONT Speaker Check Service

Volume up. Just making sure the speakers on your device are operating properly.

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Club ONT Department of Signs of the Apocalypse

Porsche Looked at Hyundai and Said, "We'll Have What They're Having"

The 2027 Taycan gets fake gear shifts, fake noise, and a feature Porsche quietly borrowed from Hyundai.

On Wednesday, the 2027 Porsche Taycan debuted with fake gear shifts and as the German automaker put it, "more emotive electric sport sound."

The fake gear shifts are being dubbed "virtual gears" with the feature known as E-Shift, according to Porsche. It's an option on all 2027 Taycan models, though it's standard on the Turbo GT trim, and will deliver a "perceptible shift motion," according to the automaker.

Taycans already had fake noise, but now Porsche said the system, which uses speakers to pump fake noise into the world just like Hyundai's does, has been "reinterpreted," according to the automaker. It's also officially called Porsche Electric Sport Sound. Dangerously close to sport exhaust.

Porsche also added a virtual rev counter to the 2027 Taycan to count the fake revs from the fake transmission.

Tell me you've lost your way without telling me you've lost your way.

Content cleanse with this:

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Club ONT Department of Wrestling History

The June 16, 1984, episode of Piper's Pit would go down in history as the start of something huge: the Rock 'n Roll Connection. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper interviewed pop star Cyndi Lauper, Captain Lou Albano crashed the conversation, and chaos ensued!

We know what you're thinking. "If only Mattel would make a trio of collectible figures to commemorate such a significant cultural moment in time..." Well, we have news for you.

A new 3 pack of action figures will make their debut at San Diego Comic-Con next month! Each is 6.5 inches tall. How much you ask? Only $80! What a bargain! If that's not enough, the Lauper figure comes with an interchangeable head and two extra pairs of hands.

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Club ONT Department of Disturbing Food

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I Ate Blue Hot Dogs For You People, Are You Not Entertained?

The TikToker @itsmeju1iette is dedicated to trolling food internet at an exceptionally well-executed level. Juliette does things like create meat cereal in the style of Froot Loops, uses her dog's actual paws to make paw print cookies, and fills the frunk (front trunk) of a Tesla completely with tiramisu (unfortunately, commercially-made meat cereal does exist, and we once tried it).

One of her videos from a few years back is a simple one showing her cooking hot dogs in Gatorade, which turns them a remarkable blue color. Could this actually happen? Gatorade needs no introduction, but in my mind, the drink wouldn't impart that much color to a hot dog - or would it?

The verdict:

Interestingly enough, the Gatorade only colored the surface of the dog, and the Fierce Grape flavor was subtle. But it was there all right, though it was very faint. The meaty savoriness of the all-beef hot dog did the heavy lifting, and for something this strange-looking, it didn't taste as atrocious as it appeared.


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Club ONT Jukebox

It's almost officially summer!


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Club ONT thanks you for your support! Unlike our regular patrons, there are some who have not yet fully committed to their Chung Wanging.

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1 Gsr

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 10:00 PM (kOluj)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (PJdmB)

3 'Sup D-squared?

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (kOluj)

4 Gee! I wish someone had told me there would be an ONT tonight. I wouldn't have missed it.

Um… or something.

Hullo.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dino mite at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (9bb3y)

5 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 10:02 PM (kpS4V)

6 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:02 PM (ItpVy)

7 (presses nose to window, looks in from the outside)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 10:03 PM (1Ff7Z)

8 Art!

Posted by: Sandy at June 20, 2026 10:04 PM (6/7Fs)

9 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM (Hpgos)

10 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM (OoFl2)

11 I saw Fierce Grape Flavor open for They Must Be Giants at The Troubadour in '86.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:07 PM (6/7Fs)

12 9 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM
***
We missed you! (but waved from across the river)

Posted by: TRex - Club ONT coat check dino at June 20, 2026 10:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

13 I remember getting Summer In The City on the KHJ Radio promotional album in the 60's. See also, Polk Salad Annie.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:09 PM (6/7Fs)

14 See also, Venus.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:10 PM (6/7Fs)

15 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.
Posted by: Piper
*****
But your personality is more like Ravioli, a golden retriever/poodle who was the friendliest, most enthusiastic doggo and want to say hi to everyone!

Missed you, try coming to one of these in the future...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

16 After debating it fully I have decided that yes, indeed, I will Wang Chung tonight.

https://tinyurl.com/3uwzzrx3

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (6mVIs)

17 Thanks for the dandy Saturday Night Club ONT, D Squared!

And thanks for the reporting on the NoVaMoMe! We ALL wish we could have been there today.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (D/6p1)

18 "Porsche also added a virtual rev counter to the 2027 Taycan to count the fake revs from the fake transmission.

Tell me you've lost your way without telling me you've lost your way."

I hate that crap. Fake and gay.

#2 son and I went on a little road rally today, in a 1965 Spitfire. The sounds and smells are all real, not like that fake teutonic twaddle. Everybody loves that car. Park it next to a Porsche SUV and guess what gets the attention.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (vFG9F)

19 14

She's got it,
Oh baby, she's got it.
I'm your Venus
I'm your fire

That Venus?

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (RCjYY)

20 See also, Going Up the Country.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (6/7Fs)

21 Porsche has lost there way. Dumb business decisions mostly. So much so, they are pulling out of sportscar racing at the prototype level. So, no Porsche racing for the overall win at LeMans next year. Not sure if they'll be in IMSA next season or not either.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (Hpgos)

22 That Venus?
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (RCjYY)

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Shocking Blue's best effort.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (6/7Fs)

23 If your weiner looks like that it's too late for a shot.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (vFG9F)

24 15 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.
Posted by: Piper
*****
But your personality is more like Ravioli, a golden retriever/poodle who was the friendliest, most enthusiastic doggo and want to say hi to everyone!

Missed you, try coming to one of these in the future...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

I need to do that, life keeps getting in the way. I had to go to MD a few weeks ago for my uncle’s funeral and I can only get away from the studio so much. The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility! I don’t even know if I will make it (again) on our family vacation, at least not the full time. Boo hiss.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:14 PM (OoFl2)

25 23 If your weiner looks like that it's too late for a shot.
Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (vFG9F)

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Big Mike would respectfully disagree.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:16 PM (6/7Fs)

26 Evenin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:17 PM (77rzZ)

27 Top 10ish Comments of the Week — as always, nothing I contribute is of that honorable status. Whew!😥

Well, maybe I'll again make the much more honorable roll of top sock-er players. Socket puppets. Whaaatever.⚽

Posted by: mindful webworker - soccer it to me? -Dick Nixon at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (9bb3y)

28 If your weiner looks like that it's too late for a shot.
Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:13 PM (vFG9F)

"No need cut it off. It fall off by self in two, three day!"

Posted by: Just The Punchline at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (bhZyo)

29 And Ravioli is the best name ever.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (OoFl2)

30 Evening, Double D's, and ONT Horde! I would like to see F104 Starfighters do the same launch maneuvers those F22's did. I remember seeing the CF104's at an airshow at CFB Cold Lake, and those suckers were LOUD. And they could sit on their ass and fly straight up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (1z8ji)

31 12 9 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:05 PM
***
We missed you! (but waved from across the river)
Posted by: TRex



I work on the NoVA side of the Potomac, so probably on the same side. I waved while driving in. Got flipped off. Probably not a moron.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 10:19 PM (Hpgos)

32 *waves to Bulg and Piper*

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:19 PM (ZHOnm)

33
The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility!

How can you take any time off at all without shutting down?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (Cqx++)

34 "Rowdy" Roddy Piper interviewed pop star Cyndi Lauper, Captain Lou Albano crashed the conversation, and chaos ensued!

Would I lose my barely-accepted Moron status if I confess that I have know idea what this is about, much less why Cyndi Lauper should have interchangeable heads?

Posted by: mindful webworker - do what now? at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (9bb3y)

35 31 Evening, Double D's, and ONT Horde! I would like to see F104 Starfighters do the same launch maneuvers those F22's did. I remember seeing the CF104's at an airshow at CFB Cold Lake, and those suckers were LOUD. And they could sit on their ass and fly straight up.

---------

They called it Widowmaker for a reason.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (6/7Fs)

36 Somebody cranky needs a timeout.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (vFG9F)

37 I have come here today to chew bubblegum...

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:21 PM (RCjYY)

38 We can shapeshift in the after life, you know. I looked AMAZING as a doggie.
Posted by: Piper
*****
But your personality is more like Ravioli, a golden retriever/poodle who was the friendliest, most enthusiastic doggo and want to say hi to everyone!

Missed you, try coming to one of these in the future...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

I need to do that, life keeps getting in the way. I had to go to MD a few weeks ago for my uncle’s funeral and I can only get away from the studio so much. The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility! I don’t even know if I will make it (again) on our family vacation, at least not the full time. Boo hiss.
Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:14 PM (OoFl2)

My first thought was that Saijo and your cats had recruited a local dog to see if they were safe enough for you to meet.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:21 PM (qx7Zg)

39 And Ravioli is the best name ever.
Posted by: Piper
*********
You would have loved him Piper. He was so earnest and happy and loveable. Determined to meet and greet everyone!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

40 Yeah, that Fed guy at the MoMe was creepy. He professes to know art.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:23 PM (77rzZ)

41 Had a great time at my first MoMe today, and the pre-session yesterday afternoon - wonderful company all around. And Bluebell and I found out it's a small world indeed - Bluebell, if you're here tonight, my brother was very humbled and sends blessings.

Posted by: Patches at June 20, 2026 10:23 PM (88s3w)

42 Except for lauper they're all dead


Am im out of bubble gum too

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:23 PM (bXbFr)

43 I thought it said crab cocktail...
Dammit! Where are my damn glasses...and where is my cocktail?!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (uTEOj)

44 If I could shape shift it would not be into a dog. Perhaps a rhino or elephant, or maybe even a dinosaur!

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (vFG9F)

45
T - 6 hours to solstice. Astronomical summer begins, and the days starting getting shorter. Astronomical spring 2026 will clock in at 92 days, 17 hours, and 38 minutes.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (w6EFb)

46 Wearing the splc designer duds

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (bXbFr)

47 32 Hey, SMH!

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (77rzZ)

48 She's got it,
Oh baby, she's got it.
I'm your Venus
I'm your fire

That Venus?
Posted by: mnw


I'd wager that, instead, it was

Venus if you will
Please send a little girl for me to thrill
A girl with all your kisses and your charms
A girl without arms like you…♥♥♥

Posted by: mindful webworker - surely the things I ask can't be that great a ta-au-ah-ah-ah ah -ask at June 20, 2026 10:24 PM (9bb3y)

49 The yellow sign in the top photo should appear on all exits in the Richmond area leading to the Virginia state capitol and executive offices.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (qx7Zg)

50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)

51 Helluva coincidence.

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: New Hampshire’s first transgender elected Rep., Stacie Laughton (D), sentenced to 33 YEARS in prison for the s*xual exploitation of children.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ndZc7)

52 >>> Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 10:18 PM (qFwJc)

Da fuq?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (R+iUD)

53 You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (bXbFr)

54 Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (vFG9F)

I think it's happened.
I have no real idea what came over that guy, but I'll try stepping carefully in future.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (gKWVE)

55 SMH, the Horde mafia is pressuring me to attend the Texas MoMe, so maybe I will see you there.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (77rzZ)

56 See also, Going Up the Country.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:12 PM (6/7Fs)

Which Canned Heat shamelessly stole, and faithfully copied, from Henry Thomas, a Texas blues man, who recorded it in 1928. Henry used an instrument called a "quill" worn on a neck brace, for the pipe part. Henry Thomas had a very haunting timbre to his voice.

Here is Henry's original of the song:

https://youtu.be/DTi6Z6qALwY

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (1z8ji)

57 53 You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:27 PM (bXbFr)

I have signed an NDA. Sorry.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (OoFl2)

58 Some one whizzed in his wheaties

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:28 PM (bXbFr)

59 Boy, if anybody else had said this, it'd be a hate crime.

The first openly transgender person elected to a US state legislature has been sentenced to 33 years in prison for child sexual exploitation.
Stacie Marie Laughton's defense had argued for a lower sentence on the basis of his possible "retardation."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (ndZc7)

60 From the web:

Two clowns are eating a cannibal.

One turns to the other and says, "I think we got this joke wrong"

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (qx7Zg)

61 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete


Just don't leave a box of them on the back seat of your car.

Someone's likely to break the window and leave another box.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (VHUov)

62 50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10

And then viral in 23 TikTok’s from nest video.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (OoFl2)

63 >>> 50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)

I thought you were supposed to drop them on the driver's seat of their cars wherever possible.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 10:29 PM (R+iUD)

64
Spring 2026 clocked in a little short this time, about and hour and a half less than average.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:30 PM (w6EFb)

65 Hey, Piper.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:30 PM (77rzZ)

66 They called it Widowmaker for a reason.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:20 PM (6/7Fs)

Mostly because the 104 was a high-altitude interceptor, forced into a ground-attack role, for which it was very ill-suited.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (1z8ji)

67 "You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right
Posted by: Miguel cervantes"

I don't know it was so tightly regulated. I would just shape shift into a small dinosaur then.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (vFG9F)

68 So I had this gigantic oak tree removed today, it was very close to the house and we had a near miss a couple of weeks ago so it had to go.

The crew were all young Pennsylvania good old boys, very pleasant and professional.

They all smoked and had butt's hanging out of their mouths the whole time.

Which oddly, was very reassurring.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (XV/Pl)

69 Wth is wrong with people a continuing series

Mutant hot dogs?

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (bXbFr)

70 Saijo just brought me his cookie. He is so sweet. Or goofy. Or both.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

71 life keeps getting in the way. I had to go to… my uncle’s funeral
Posted by: Piper


Eau de irony. Magnified by your own tragic demise.😀

Posted by: mindful webworker - death as a part of life, it's true at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (9bb3y)

72 Hi SMH!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

73 50 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)

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You can also attend a WNBA game and toss them out in the court in the middle of play.

Just a thought.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:32 PM (6/7Fs)

74 Wang chung is best known for the suund teack to live and doe in la

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (bXbFr)

75 Spring 2026 clocked in a little short this time, about and hour and a half less than average.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:30 PM (w6EFb)

Somebody didn't wind Spring's spring quite tight enough this year, I guess.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (qx7Zg)

76 @53

>>You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right

Well, it depends on the needs of the story and if it's coherent within the rules that are set up.

Or you could be Terry Gilliam and don't give a sh*t about such things as coherence.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (XV/Pl)

77 I want to thank all of the Hordelings that I talked to today. You all cheered me up after my sister’s passing.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (77rzZ)

78 Apparently, Trump is going to steal an airplane.

Chris Murphy
@ChrisMurphyCT
The plan is for this plane to be in service for two years and then Trump will take if for himself. No President has ever stolen an Air Force for himself.
And you paid for it. The total cost could be $1 billion of your money for a new luxury jet for Trump and his family.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (ndZc7)

79 Sound track

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:34 PM (bXbFr)

80 Yeah there is that

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:34 PM (bXbFr)

81 BREAKING: New Hampshire’s first transgender elected Rep., Stacie Laughton (D), sentenced to 33 YEARS in prison for the s*xual exploitation of children.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ndZc7)

Pity New Hampshire is too poor to be able to afford a gas chamber.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:34 PM (1z8ji)

82 SMH, the Horde mafia is pressuring me to attend the Texas MoMe, so maybe I will see you there.
Posted by: Bulg
___

We're hoping to be there too, but this buying a house put a huge dent in our savings (closing costs), and Ex-ex is looking for a new job, since commuting 2 hours each way is not an option.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (ZHOnm)

83 The plan is for this plane to be in service for two years and then Trump will take if for himself. No President has ever stolen an Air Force for himself.
And you paid for it. The total cost could be $1 billion of your money for a new luxury jet for Trump and his family.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (ndZc7)

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Why, this is an outrage.




Beef jerky?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (6/7Fs)

84 Why, this is an outrage.




Beef jerky?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (6/7Fs)



Is anything ever inrageous?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (1z8ji)

85 We're hoping to be there too, but this buying a house put a huge dent in our savings (closing costs), and Ex-ex is looking for a new job, since commuting 2 hours each way is not an option.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:35 PM (ZHOnm)

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A two-hour commute? Pfft.

I used to do that in my sleep.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (6/7Fs)

86 82 SMH, may God lead us to the MoMes as He sees fit.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (77rzZ)

87 Only when youre whelmed

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (bXbFr)

88 Or gruntled

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (bXbFr)

89 You can also attend a WNBA game and toss them out in the court in the middle of play.

Just a thought.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:32 PM (6/7Fs)

Does he get bonus points if he gets the zucchini to land on a player's head without breaking?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (qx7Zg)

90 You know what that hot dog looks like, don’t you?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 10:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

91 33
The downside to owning your own business is actually less flexibility!

How can you take any time off at all without shutting down?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 10:20

I have employees, but I teach a lot on week days. so covering all of my classes is hard. I only teach a few weekends, weekend get aways are easiest. I would have to do a modified schedule if I left for the whole week, and I hate to do that to clients. I may just for 1/2 the week or something.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:39 PM (OoFl2)

92 Climbing fighters. Once upon a time, I was at an F-4 Phantom base, when I spotted a visiting F-16 getting ready to take off. This was early in the F-16's career, so seeing one was notable.

The F-16 took off and immediately stood on its tail and climbed straight up. What was amusing was what happened next.

Next to take off were three Phantoms. For those unfamiliar, the Phantom was a big, heavy airplane, especially compared to the F-16. Each Phantom rolled down the runway, lifted off, tried to go vertical for a split second, and immediately gave up the attempt.

I imagine there was much grunting of frustration and the grinding of teeth in the cockpits.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2026 10:40 PM (bhZyo)

93 Is anything ever inrageous?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


We keep that to ourselves.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:40 PM (VHUov)

94 Hi Bulg!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:42 PM (pZEOD)

95 I used to do that in my sleep.
Posted by: Cicero

Hey! If you don't like the way I drive, stay off of the sidewalk!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:43 PM (ItpVy)

96 Just think of all the Air Force Ones Trump could buy with the fraud money that Tim Walz handed out to Somali Learing Centers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:43 PM (6/7Fs)

97 Happy Saturday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (0nHVk)

98 84 AOP, only that stuff that is instanding.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (77rzZ)

99 Howdy, horde! Thanks for Club ONT, double-D's!

I wouldn't mind if a couple of zucchini were left on my porch once in a while. They want $1.99/lb at the grocery. Insane!

Last time I grew them, one plant got hit by vine-borers & died. The other was okay until I skipped watering... and it died. But that's okay, we got quite a few. And no-- we *asked* neighbors if they wanted any-- didn't just dump surprises on them.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (rdVOm)

100 Is anything ever inrageous?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

We keep that to ourselves.
Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:40 PM (VHUov)

At least until the head explodes or lava starts to leak.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (qx7Zg)

101 The F4 was the test case for the theory that, if you put enough thrust behind it, you could make a brick fly.

Posted by: clarence at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (I5lp2)

102 100?

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 10:45 PM (XqvXS)

103 97 Hey, DDS!

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:45 PM (77rzZ)

104 97 Happy Saturday Horde!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (0nHVk)

--------

*checks clipboard*

Line on the left. One cross each.

Posted by: Centurion #4 at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (6/7Fs)

105 Missed it by that much. :-)

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (XqvXS)

106 63 Helena

"I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini today."

For you, then, "The Zucchini Song"!

"Ohhh! What a beauty,
I never saw one as large as that before!
Ohhh! What a beauty,
It must be 2 foot long or maybe more!"

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (RCjYY)

107 You can only shapeshift into something youre own size right
Posted by: Miguel cervantes


Still a great superpower. I'd be constantly shapeshifted into me, except super ripped.

Posted by: mikeski asks, "Bro, do you even shift?" at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (VHUov)

108 97 Happy Saturday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM
***
You're earlier than usual!

Posted by: TRex - tick tock dino at June 20, 2026 10:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

109 Saw something passing strange this afternoon, as I was packing up tools in the shop. A steady stream of traffic on the E-W grid road, just south of my place, that leads to town. One car, or pickup, after another. Then a pause, and another whole batch. This road never gets traffic like that. All I can think of is that the paved highway 2 miles south of here had a wreck or some other closure, and traffic was detoured to the grid road.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:47 PM (1z8ji)

110 Hi, Debby!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:47 PM (rdVOm)

111 Happy Saturday Horde!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
***********
Wow, this is a treat...either I am way past my bedtime or you are early, cause we are never on here at the same time....but great to see you in real time!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

112 Oh sure. F-22s and unlimited climb outs.
Pppfffttt.
*yawns*
Now. Roll a battalion of tanks across that airport and now you got something exciting!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:50 PM (2WIwB)

113 And no-- we *asked* neighbors if they wanted any-- didn't just dump surprises on them.
Posted by: JQ

Clearly you are not of Italian-American heritage.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:51 PM (ItpVy)

114 Bluebell made a good point to me today when I mentioned the recent death of my sister, after which I was tending to withdraw within myself.

She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:52 PM (77rzZ)

115 112 Now. Roll a battalion of tanks across that airport and now you got something exciting!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:50 PM
***
That's tankdemon's department and he's late. We don't know why.

Posted by: TRex - sherman dino at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

116 Which one of you morons is going to set up the hotdog cart outside a WNBA game, break out the green Gator-Aid, and have some fun?

Extra points if your hotdog cart has a sign:

The Green Dildo (don't play with your food)

Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (dIske)

117 Clearly you are not of Italian-American heritage.
Posted by: Tonypete

LOL, true.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (rdVOm)

118 >> Somebody didn't wind Spring's spring quite tight enough this year, I guess.

Blame the Moon. That's the biggest driver of the variation in exact apparent season timing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:53 PM (w6EFb)

119 114 Bluebell made a good point to me today when I mentioned the recent death of my sister, after which I was tending to withdraw within myself.

She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:52 PM (77rzZ)

And we all know who the weird uncle is….🤣

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:54 PM (pZEOD)

120 …I have know idea what this is about, much less why Cyndi Lauper should have interchangeable heads?

Hair color, maybe?

I actually enjoy Cyndi Lauper’s albums quite a bit. But Lauper herself always reminds me of the singer from Eraserhead. Of which I was recently reminded while watching horde-adjacent movie material.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 10:54 PM (kYmoU)

121 I am here earlier than usual I am attempting a biological reset, earlier to bed, so far I am batting about 180, much room for improvement. I stopped by the candle making thread for a while, very interesting TRex, I have an old fashioned candle mold in my back hall, it is full of American flags.

JQ, good to see you, a Chivas if you will please.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 10:54 PM (0nHVk)

122 Now. Roll a battalion of tanks across that airport and now you got something exciting!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:50 PM
***
That's tankdemon's department and he's late. We don't know why.
Posted by: TRex - sherman dino
***********
YET! I have faith he will report in....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

123 Bulg
We are a family.
Bluebell is kinda like mom.
So stay out of my stuff or I'm telling mom!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 10:56 PM (2WIwB)

124 *Chivas for Debby*

*A round for The Horde*

Cheers!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:56 PM (rdVOm)

125 119 And You, Young Lady, will be confined to the attic until further notice. 🙂

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:57 PM (77rzZ)

126 JQ, thanks for the drink...I hope it's a much better day for you today....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 10:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

127
There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 10:58 PM (w6EFb)

128 She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.
Posted by: Bulg

And we all know who the weird uncle is….🤣
Posted by: Piper


I'm wondering who (among the 'Rons) it isn't.....

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 10:58 PM (VHUov)

129 There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.

Shame on you for misremembering lyrics.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 10:59 PM (kYmoU)

130 She mentioned that the Horde is a family, of sorts, unto itself. And I fully agree with her in this. Thank you all, for being my Internet family, and for getting me out today.

---------

Just don't ask for a loan and we'll be fine, ummkay?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (6/7Fs)

131 The normal member of a weird family is the weird one of the bunch.

Posted by: Marilyn Munster at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (Q+gd/)

132 Was stationed at Lakenheath. Those are Langley F-22's.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (Yw4Qw)

133 >>I am here earlier than usual I am attempting a biological reset, earlier to bed, so far I am batting about 180, much room for improvement.

Same here, Debby! It's too darned hot here by noon, so yard work needs to be done very early. And then lunch with hubby (because he sundowns in the afternoon and that's hard for me to handle) so, I need to get going much sooner than I have been doing. Ugh. Never was a "morning person" even when the job demanded it.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (rdVOm)

134 123 Does Mom know that you steal from the geezers?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (77rzZ)

135 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW0FgLGKa4U

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 20, 2026 11:02 PM (Skc+N)

136 Thanks, Grateful! Today has been much better!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:03 PM (rdVOm)

137 127
There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.
Posted by: publius



youtu.be/AOcDyBS7T1U

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 11:03 PM (Hpgos)

138 Got my muffler job mostly finished today. The tailpipe and U-bend over the axle is one welded unit, but it is clamped into the muffler, which in turn is clamped to the exhaust pipe. Those joints are separable, should the need arise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 11:04 PM (1z8ji)

139 Last time I grew them, one plant got hit by vine-borers & died. The other was okay until I skipped watering... and it died...
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 10:44 PM (rdVOm)

But the third one...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 11:05 PM (nbLIj)

140 Hot & breezy here today, so I flattened out a wadded-up tarp that had covered lawn tractor over winter, (It was covered with bird poop) and hosed it off.

One person vs. 16 x 24 tarp, in the wind... had to pin down the corners with lawn chairs before spraying off. LOL! It'll be dry by tomorrow and hopefully not so windy while I re-fold it.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:08 PM (rdVOm)

141 But the third one...
Posted by: Joe Kidd

Alas, there was no third one.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:09 PM (rdVOm)

142 Grateful, it is so very nice to see you!

Piper, I waded into something that I shouldn't have last night. I was oblivious to any prior history, thank you for being the classy person that you are, I meant no offense to you.

Bulg, get you butt to Texas, you will have a great time, meet some more of your family.

Thanks JQ, that was delish, might I trouble you for another before bed.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 11:10 PM (0nHVk)

143 I am off to bed, y’all have a great night!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 11:10 PM (p4NUW)

144
I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.

So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete

=============

::seething with jealousy::

Not that I'm not a neighbor, but that you're able to grow zucchini.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 11:11 PM (XJ22o)

145 Evening shading into night, people. We just watched the 1946 color film of The Yearling w/ Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman, and with small roles for Chill Wills (you'd never recognize him -- he was slim!), Forrest Tucker, and June Lockhart, who has all of one line. A charming coming-of-age story for the 12-year-old boy, Jody, who wants a pet and adopts a fawn whose mother has died.

Peck is sort of miscast as a farmer in 1870s Florida, but Jane Wyman absolutely nails her role as the non-demonstrative and no-nonsense, but loving, mother.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:11 PM (wzUl9)

146 There's a Bob Segar song with something about "Blame it on the Moon", IIRC.

***
I thought we were supposed to blame it on Rio. You know, that girl who dances on the sand.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:13 PM (wzUl9)

147 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 11:14 PM (0nHVk)

148 Not that I'm not a neighbor, but that you're able to grow zucchini.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 11:11 PM (XJ22o)

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Have you tried burying a dead fish where you plant the seeds?

Posted by: Squanto at June 20, 2026 11:14 PM (6/7Fs)

149 Hi y’all!

Pretty crazy on the beach. Sunny and 65.

So. Many. Tourists. Cruise ships just left port, three of them. USA vs AUS yesterday and the BoSox in town. I’ve never seen so many Star Spangled Benners flying and USA soccer jerseys and happy people.

Not a fag flag in sight. Serious. It’s spooky.

Almost like Seattle has an excuse to fly their red white and blue and not be harassed by the freak show haters. I’m stunned.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 11:15 PM (A5RD0)

150 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026


***
They would probably laugh at how low my budget is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:16 PM (wzUl9)

151 >> blame it on Rio.

https://t.ly/FxbI-

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:17 PM (w6EFb)

152
Yes, it's blame it on midnight, and shame on the Moon.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:18 PM (w6EFb)

153 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026

***
They would probably laugh at how low my budget is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:16 PM (wzUl9)

Don't they focus on couples, like an influencer and a day care center owner with a $5 million budget?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 11:18 PM (qx7Zg)

154 *another Chivas for Debby*

You know, I'll have another beverage too. Couldn't sleep last night, slept late this morning... ugh. Get so tired of fighting it! Maybe can just knock myself out? No, not worth the hangover.

Tomorrow is Fathers' Day, and surely stepson will call while I'm with hubby. Don't want to be all messed up then! I'll saute a lobster tail (cut-up) to bring with me at lunch. Good thing the place is nearby.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:19 PM (rdVOm)

155 Club ONT Jukebox
It's almost officially summer!


Bonus tracks!

https://youtu.be/7NJ_nzOckOQ
https://youtu.be/Z2ys-mE9NNA
https://youtu.be/8epnNzRSUdI
https://youtu.be/2Hoehsoj5xk
https://youtu.be/HVBE0cvDukE

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 11:20 PM (VHUov)

156 Technology is not my friend tonight. Ah well, I guess that's why they make tomorrows.

G'night. Too bad I couldn't be a the MoMe.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2026 11:21 PM (CHHv1)

157 About time for me to shuffle off to Pillow World. Chance or rain early tomorrow is low. I plan to work out before dawn and before breakfast -- which will be light. Miss Linda is going to make waffles a little later to use up the last of the batter she whipped up earlier this week.

Tomorrow night I plan to sit up late and have a late snack about 10:30 or 11:00. Reason? Monday at 8 am I have to have blood drawn, so no food or coffee after midnight. They usually get to me fast, so I should be able to zip to my favorite diner for food and black juice soon after.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 11:21 PM (wzUl9)

158 Hey Wolfus, every time I land on an episode of House Hunters I half expect it be you looking for a nice little place in Indiana.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

They would probably laugh at how low my budget is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Don't they focus on couples, like an influencer and a day care center owner with a $5 million budget?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


"I'm a butterfly therapist and my husband is a stay-at-home astronaut. Our budget is 1.2 million."

Posted by: the meme about that at June 20, 2026 11:22 PM (VHUov)

159
Then there's this, Away Rio. We're bound for the Rio Grande:

https://t.ly/8gQNd

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:23 PM (w6EFb)

160 https://youtu.be/eGY7Catuhq0

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:23 PM (rdVOm)

161 Yes, it's blame it on midnight, and shame on the Moon.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:18 PM (w6EFb)

I used to always be the scapegoat, but time has passed me by.

Posted by: The Bossa Nova at June 20, 2026 11:29 PM (1z8ji)

162 Thanks for the sky and seasons info, publius. I'm enjoying observing the heavens, day and night, spending more time outside than I used to.

Happy Summer, everyone! I'm taking a vacation from internetland. See you around the autumnal equinox? :-)

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 11:29 PM (XqvXS)

163 A Doberman and a German Shepherd are in the waiting room at the vet.

German Shepherd: Why are you here?
Doberman: I chewed up the mailman. At first he was demanding I be put down, but my owner got him to agree to just have me castrated. Why are you here?
German Shepherd: The lady who owns me came out of the shower and dropped the shampoo bottle. It rolled behind the toilet, so she got down on all fours to retrieve it. I couldn't resist... I mounted her.
Doberman: So you're here for castration too.
German Shepherd: Nope, just a nail trim.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 20, 2026 11:30 PM (qpyNK)

164
It just occurred to me, this is the evening of the day before the summer solstice. So, this is Summer's Eve. Are you feeling fresh?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:31 PM (w6EFb)

165 Hey all,

We have a launch late tomorrow morning.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 17-28
SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: June 21, 2026
Launch Time: 8:12 a.m. PDT (1512 UTC, 17:12 CEST)

https://youtu.be/mC_L0wUT_gs

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 11:31 PM (2F0/Y)

166 I used to do that in my sleep.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:37 PM (6/7Fs)


Hey!
I was 14 ok. And it only happened twice.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 11:33 PM (2WIwB)

167
I just told Miley, "Hey Hon, it's Summer's Eve!".

Her reply, "Don't be a douche!"

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:33 PM (w6EFb)

168 Decided to grab a stogie and a glass of Black Barrel. Sitting on the front porch listening to a steady rain, admiring the 24" deep x 16 diameter hole I dug this afternoon, then filled with concrete for to hold our new flag pole.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:33 PM (6lIrI)

169 lol publius

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 11:34 PM (ZHOnm)

170 LOL, Rodrigo!

Posted by: The Bossa Nova at June 20, 2026 11:34 PM (1z8ji)

171 Does Mom know that you steal from the geezers?
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 11:00 PM (77rzZ)


That's not stealing. Those old bastards put their money down fair 'n square.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 11:34 PM (2WIwB)

172 Summer's Eve,
Makes me feel faint.
Blowin' through the stankness of my taint...

Posted by: Seals and Crofts at June 20, 2026 11:37 PM (qpyNK)

173 Nurse, glad to hear your city decided to straighten up. I heard they were threatening to ship it off to military school with the G*dd@mn Finkelstein shit kid.....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:38 PM (6lIrI)

174 >> I'm enjoying observing the heavens, day and night, spending more time outside than I used to.

Glad you're enjoying it. In these modern times, we just don't do that much anymore. Time, navigation, seasons, etc, are all automatic now, and the connection is lost on the modern general public.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:39 PM (w6EFb)

175 &172 - LOL'ed. Might have woke the neighbors

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:39 PM (6lIrI)

176 Lol publius.

Sweet dreams Horde, I am running out of gas.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 11:41 PM (0nHVk)

177 Wow, California Government is saying that Disneylands Autopia, a ride that has been open for 70 years, must change, or close.

The Gas engines they use in the gokarts are now verboten.

Going... after... Disneyland... Hubris.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2026 11:42 PM (mP0Kj)

178 I was going through some notes from 2021 in my tablet, and I found the entry, "RONCO Heavy weapons division " with no explanation.
No idea what I was thinking, maybe Ron Popiel was trying to find a new market or set up a line of mecha-warrior suits or something.
I wonder what story I was working on.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 11:43 PM (rbvCR)

179 Ooh, I made it onto the "comments of the week" list. I feel like Navin Johnson. Hopefully nobody starts shooting at me....

Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (tTZHu)

180 'Night, Debby!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (rdVOm)

181 178 I was going through some notes from 2021 in my tablet, and I found the entry, "RONCO Heavy weapons division " with no explanation.
No idea what I was thinking, maybe Ron Popiel was trying to find a new market or set up a line of mecha-warrior suits or something.
I wonder what story I was working on.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 11:43 PM (rbvCR)

RONCO Heavy Weapons, a subsidiary of Acme Corp

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote. at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (mP0Kj)

182 @178 - it slices, it dices! It perforates and mutlilates! But wait, there's more! Order now and get a free brick of C4.....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:45 PM (6lIrI)

183 Most of my shorts are khaki.

And sunglasses are a must.

But I like Henleys.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 20, 2026 11:45 PM (mPXxA)

184 > Going... after... Disneyland... Hubris.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2026 11:42 PM (mP0Kj)

The article I found says they're switching to electric.

I predict failure... even in California no self-respecting kid is going to want to drive a gussied-up mobility scooter.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 20, 2026 11:46 PM (qpyNK)

185 182 @178 - it slices, it dices! It perforates and mutlilates! But wait, there's more! Order now and get a free brick of C4.....
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:45 PM (6lIrI)

As everything must have its opposite.

Silly Putty shows there must be Serious Putty... which some of us call.. C4

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote. at June 20, 2026 11:47 PM (mP0Kj)

186 179 Ooh, I made it onto the "comments of the week" list. I feel like Navin Johnson. Hopefully nobody starts shooting at me....
Posted by: PabloD at June 20, 2026 11:44 PM (tTZHu)

--------

Meh. Everyone knows the whole thing is rigged.

Not to take away from your achievement or anything...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 11:49 PM (6/7Fs)

187 Elon Musk just posted a picture of a very pregnant woman riding in a Cybertruck, with no comment.

Another kid for him?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 20, 2026 11:52 PM (qpyNK)

188 Elon Musk just posted a picture of a very pregnant woman riding in a Cybertruck, with no comment.
Another kid for him?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Dude better be careful, or he'll be only a billionaire again.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:54 PM (rdVOm)

189 173 Nurse, glad to hear your city decided to straighten up. I heard they were threatening to ship it off to military school with the G*dd@mn Finkelstein shit kid.....
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher

Oh! It’s temporary, for sure. But.

It tells me there’s a lot of folks out here going with the flow just to get along. And now there’s an excuse to go all USA USA USA, they are taking it unabashedly.

Makes me happy.

Next weekend. Iran vs Egypt. It’s the PRIDE MATCH.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 11:56 PM (A5RD0)

190
Along those lines, I was listening to a podcast the other day with one of the Younger Dryas impact guys being interviewed by some young feller. He was talking about the alignment of Giza and some of the others that corresponded to the sky around 10,500BC due to precession.

"What's precession?" Well, it's the 26,000 year wobble of the earth's axis.

"How does that affect the alignment and of what". Well, it changes the constellation the equinox appears in. "Equinox?" When the sun rises due east and sets due west, basically. It's the Zodiac constellation that occurs in.

"You mean star patterns?".....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 11:56 PM (w6EFb)

191 Daughter and SoninLaw just dropped by for a minute. Asked what I was doing tomorrow evening. Invited us out, either a restaurant or to their place for dinner. I'm easy, any outgoing is fine; I just don't much care for being out after dark. We'll see. It's Dad's Day, not like I have any say in what we'll do!🤪

Hey, Bartender: I notice we've somehow got some coffee liquor. Wondering what to do with it. Of an evening, not in the morning coffee. If we had some vodka, we could make a Russki, I guess. Just have rum and whiskey. And weird things like bitters. Any ideas?

Over vanilla ice cream along with some crumbled cookies, maybe? I'm a glass of wine or a beer guy, not much of a mixed bev type. Occasional rum-and-something.

Maybe I should just go to bed…

Posted by: mindful webworker - adopted cousin in the Horde family at June 20, 2026 11:57 PM (9bb3y)

192 Dude better be careful, or he'll be only a billionaire again.
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 11:54 PM (rdVOm)

Supposedly he does a business agreement with each.

It's got to be an odd headspace to be in.

I'd prefer just one, but he is an odd one. Maybe he is so hyperfixated on not losing sight of Mars that he does not want to take the risk. If he married someone, you know some judge would give her half his shit (automatically making her the world's richest woman- which would deform a relationship to incomprehensibility.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:00 AM (mPXxA)

193 Going... after... Disneyland... Hubris.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2026 11:42 PM (mP0Kj)

Newsome kept it shut down during COVID despite their pleadings that Disneyworld had been open for almost a year with no one getting sick.

Something something...boot stamping a face forever...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:00 AM (nbLIj)

194 Disney is woke as hell as well.

He's flailing. Pandering. Kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:01 AM (mPXxA)

195 > Supposedly he does a business agreement with each.

I guess he's got a bunch of them living in a luxurious high-security compound.

Odd headspace indeed.

No word on whether he's still boning all of them.




Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:03 AM (qpyNK)

196 Next weekend. Iran vs Egypt. It’s the PRIDE MATCH.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 11:56 PM (A5RD0)

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Lol - that oughta be a riot....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (6lIrI)

197 Kumala Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (Es4vZ)

198 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:33 PM (ndZc7)

Many drugs can cause paranoia, including weed, speed, and coke, and it sounds like Chris Murphy needs detox.

Posted by: SciVo at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (Sy6m/)

199 Elon doesn’t want to be monogamous.

He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.

He’s never said he’s a saint. He’s never professed he’s a one woman guy. I don’t judge him. He’s done a lot more good in the world than bad and he has never demanded I pay for his kids.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 12:08 AM (A5RD0)

200 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

On loan from the WNBA?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (5hs8R)

201 200

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (6lIrI)

202 >>>Kumala Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....

Posted by: Jackson K.

>Do they serve little redhead girls with pigtails at Wendy's?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (fkjGs)

203 Hey, Bartender: I notice we've somehow got some coffee liquor. Wondering what to do with it. Of an evening, not in the morning coffee. If we had some vodka, we could make a Russki, I guess. Just have rum and whiskey. And weird things like bitters. Any ideas?

Well, there's also the white russian if you want to use up the wotka. Or, leave it out and just have the coffee liquor with cream (personally, half n half is too rich for me, I just use plain milk)

Consider a "toasted almond" which is like the white russian, but with Amaretto instead of vodka.

I agree that the kahlua, or tia maria or whatever, is great over ice cream!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:12 AM (rdVOm)

204 200 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

On loan from the WNBA?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (5hs8R)

You could tell when he put the maple syrup on his hot dog.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:12 AM (mPXxA)

205 Well shit.... off by one as usual. S'pose it's time to put out the cigar and head off to slumber. Wish you all a blessed night.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:13 AM (6lIrI)

206 Well, sleepiness is fast overtaking me. Off to the rack I go. Night, Horde.

Posted by: The Bossa Nova at June 21, 2026 12:14 AM (1z8ji)

207 Is Schwann's a southern indiana/midwest only thing?

I remember my parents would get this giant tub (like 2 gals) of this toasted almond ice cream (chocolate with almonds.) It was delicious. Never been able to find store bought like that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:14 AM (mPXxA)

208 Should take off my sock before retiring, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 12:14 AM (1z8ji)

209 You know that Fed was Dildo, right?

On loan from the WNBA?
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2026 12:11 AM (5hs8R)

You could tell when he put the maple syrup on his hot dog.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:12 AM (mPXxA)

No one put Bob from NSA on the label? What was his temporary fill-in, George?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 21, 2026 12:15 AM (qx7Zg)

210 Schwanns used to run trucks in the Calgary area, and outlying rural parts. Don't know if they still do or not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2026 12:15 AM (1z8ji)

211
The soon-to-be god-emperor of Mars must have many concubines, of course. He may be shooting to break Solomon's record.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:17 AM (w6EFb)

212 We have (or maybe *had*?) Schwann's here in Idaho. Would see a truck regularly at neighbor's house. Don't know if Schwann's went out of business here or neighbor just quit ordering, haven't seen that truck for a year or two.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:17 AM (rdVOm)

213 Schwan's was based in Marshall, MN. Used to get their ice cream delivered to the farm in SD growing up. I agree, it was the bomb. Weirdly, their home delivery service died - they sold it off a few years ago and the company that took it over re-branded as Yelloh! Didn't last five years. Schwan's still produces most of the retail frozen pizza brands, but I think the ice cream is no more. Sad...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:19 AM (6lIrI)

214 Used to chuckle when seeing the Schwann's truck. Thinking 'schwanz' LOL.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:19 AM (rdVOm)

215 just have the coffee liquor with cream (personally, half n half is too rich for me, I just use plain milk)…
Posted by: JQ


Ah, thanks. I used to drink that in my long-ago yout'. Hadn't thought of that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - memories, fading through the ages just like something something at June 21, 2026 12:20 AM (9bb3y)

216 Well, Summer Solstice. Not like it gets dark here anyway, but cool. Sky is perfectly clear, about a 1/4 moon in the daylit sky, we burned the trash (for the obnoxious greenie asshats out there), and now we are imbibing delicious cocktails courtesy of DH the bartender par excellence.

Our house addition is going apace. We got foundations this week, framing next. Will be lovely to have a bedroom on the ground floor, with a flat ceiling at the correct height. No more ducking to get into bed. No more stairs either. We are old, dammit.

However, the mosquitos are thick enough to carry off a small dog, so not much hangin' outside tonight. We demolished the deck anyway, for the addition, so I guess we are inside this evening.

Days like this are the reason we live up here. It is paradise.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 21, 2026 12:20 AM (bl07w)

217 In some places, when a kid looks / acts way differently than his siblings, they say "must be the mailman's / milkman's kid. Where I grew up, we said "must be the Schwan's man..."

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 21, 2026 12:22 AM (6lIrI)

218 Coworker of mine went to work for Space X around 2021. Probably a millionaire now...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 21, 2026 12:23 AM (nbLIj)

219 A previous cat of mine, used to sneak a few laps out of my Kahlua & milk... heh.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 12:23 AM (rdVOm)

220 Hey, no criticism on my part. I'm all for smart people having as many kids as they can support (and boy, can he support them).

He's made a few high-profile violations of Rule #1, but most of his choices seem to be respectable and do their best to stay out of the limelight.

He dodged a real bullet when that flirtation with AOC went nowhere, though. Rule #1 and how!








Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:23 AM (qpyNK)

221 Howdy, what's up tonight?

Sounds like a good time was had in VA. Wish I was there.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at June 21, 2026 12:24 AM (55Qr6)

222 He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 12:08 AM (A5RD0)


It recently occurred to me that maybe he’s trying to spread his genetics as widely as possible to father a child or two most like him to carry on his mission to Mars…and beyond!!!

Posted by: NC Ref at June 21, 2026 12:25 AM (OTOad)

223 I actually enjoy Cyndi Lauper’s albums quite a bit. But Lauper herself always reminds me of the singer from Eraserhead. Of which I was recently reminded while watching horde-adjacent movie material.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair


Netfux has a documentary on the Eraserheads.
Filipino band that was apparently very popular there about twenty years ago. Don't know if the name has anything to do with the movie.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:25 AM (/lPRQ)

224 > 197 Kumala Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....
Posted by: Jackson K. at June 21, 2026 12:04 AM (Es4vZ)



AOC is so dumb that she thought the mascot was based on her.

It's the teeth.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:25 AM (qpyNK)

225
Solstice in about 4 hours. If you want to know the exact moment, that will be 08:24:31Z, 04:24:31 EDT.

Solstice = Sol-stice = Sun-still. Lo, the sun stands still. Well, declination wise, it's moving on the fast side longitudinally. Peak declination will be 23d26'16.5".

The alignment is a bit off this time, 0.2" (arc seconds). Last year, solstice 2025 was one of the rare times when the alignment is dead on, the center of the sun dead on the ecliptic of date to within Stellarium's 0.1" display resolution.

Shame on the Moon for that, of course. The Moon causes the center of the earth to do the slightest little side-to-side and up and down bobbing and weaving relative to the "osculating" plane of the ecliptic. Last year, it was dead on center, but this time the Erf is a smidge above that plane of date.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:27 AM (w6EFb)

226 Last year, it was dead on center, but this time the Erf is a smidge above that plane of date.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:27 AM (w6EFb)

You are getting dangerously close to math and physics here, buddy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 21, 2026 12:30 AM (bl07w)

227 I don't want to brag but I picked my first zucchini of the season today.
So of course, I'll soon be stealthily dropping them on all my neighbor's porches in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:26 PM (ItpVy)
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You can also attend a WNBA game and toss them out in the court in the middle of play.
Just a thought.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:32

Now right there I think you have a top 10 post of the week Cicero.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at June 21, 2026 12:33 AM (55Qr6)

228 If he married someone, you know some judge would give her half his shit (automatically making her the world's richest woman- which would deform a relationship to incomprehensibility.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD

How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

229 tcn!

Sounds lovely out there!

Not a fan of bugs though. And Alaskan mosquitos are nothing to take lightly. Are you going to have a screened in porch? With triple panes windows for wintertime?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 21, 2026 12:35 AM (A5RD0)

230 If he married someone, you know some judge would give her half his shit (automatically making her the world's richest woman- which would deform a relationship to incomprehensibility.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD

How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

I don't think Musk would be interested in Oprah.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 21, 2026 12:36 AM (dK+Kv)

231 Hunh. YooToob music suggestions included this one. Uploaded fifteen years ago. Hadn't seen it in a long time. Song is simple; video is memorable.

https://youtu.be/uNSBq6hvU1s

Goodnight, goodnight, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - relationships are never simple at June 21, 2026 12:37 AM (9bb3y)

232 How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

Oprah is worth 3.42 Billion according to bing.

Half of his wealth would be 500 Billion (over 100 times her worth.)

Still quite a disparity. Plus she's too old to have kids.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:37 AM (mPXxA)

233 So, looking up his wealth (estimated at 1.33 trillion now) he is 389 times more wealthy than she is.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:39 AM (mPXxA)

234 And he's built stuff.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:40 AM (mPXxA)

235 > How about about Oprah?
Isn't she the world's richest woman already? Or was that US?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:34 AM (/lPRQ)

Alice Walton is the richest woman in the world. I think it was Lizzie Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (aka "Windsor") until she passed on.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:40 AM (qpyNK)

236 Elon doesn’t want to be monogamous.

He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.

He’s never said he’s a saint. He’s never professed he’s a one woman guy. I don’t judge him. He’s done a lot more good in the world than bad and he has never demanded I pay for his kids.

Posted by: nurse ratched
=====

Like Brigham Young populated Salt Lake with his spawn,
Elon Musk is going to populate Mars with hundreds of his spawn, each by a different woman.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 21, 2026 12:45 AM (/lPRQ)

237 Hey, Bartender: I notice we've somehow got some coffee liquor.

--

MAKE TIRAMISU!!!!!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 21, 2026 12:45 AM (tcsrY)

238 Missed K.T. this morning, Hadrian, I've got you book marked, no movie thread either. Some days one must do other things. Drat.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 12:47 AM (2UA/a)

239 Alice Walton is the richest woman in the world. I think it was Lizzie Saxe-Coburg und Gotha (aka "Windsor") until she passed on.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2026 12:40 AM (qpyNK)

63.6 billion according to bing.

So he's only twenty times as wealthy as her.

It really is stupidly wealthy.

The 'richest person in history' list is retarded. Very much infested by DEI.

No Charles the V. They put Mansa Musa as #1 because he controlled gold mines. But Charles Owned all of the gold mines in the New world- plus Spain. Plus the Holy Roman Empire.

But he was white so Catherine the Great was richer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 21, 2026 12:47 AM (mPXxA)

240 My permanent record is so black you would need chalk to put a mark on it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 12:47 AM (2UA/a)

241 I had all those wwf figures back in the day. Ultimate warrior was the best cause when you pushed down his back he did a warrior splash.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 12:48 AM (YZ0Fo)

242 >> You are getting dangerously close to math and physics here, buddy.

It does help to know a little bit about that for this stuff.
Just a little bit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 12:51 AM (w6EFb)

243 The glory of a nice perky pair is unrivaled. I just had the good fortune of getting my hands a couple myself! They were lovely little percocets and have rendered me a gibberish fool.

Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2026 12:52 AM (mzbnH)

244 It was a good day. The Sooners won taking down their 8th ranked team. One more win and they are champs!

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 12:54 AM (YZ0Fo)

245
I'm all for smart people having as many kids as they can support (and boy, can he support them).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

===============

I'm not. Fatherlessness is a worse problem than having a distant dad that you share among a harem of moms, even if he can give you an entire fleet of Cyber Trucks. I don't think it's an accident that one of Elon's sons has committed semi-suicide by "transitioning" to female.

And it also bothers me that conservative men who wink at ol' Elon and cut him slack for the harem thing are hostile towards women who have chosen not to have kids for entirely responsible reasons and mock them as "empty egg cartons." I've never seen a moron express a shred of sympathy for Jennifer Aniston, who wanted kids, got dumped by a faithless husband, tried to have them later in life, and finally resigned herself to childlessness. And I'd better say Good-night.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 21, 2026 12:56 AM (XJ22o)

246 Jennifer Aniston, who wanted kids, got dumped by a faithless husband, tried to have them later in life, and finally resigned herself to childlessness. And I'd better say Good-night.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Jennifer Aniston has had 50 years to have a kid. She didn't want to when she was younger and now has buyers remorse.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 12:59 AM (YZ0Fo)

247 Consider:

A-- One guy wants kids by a couple of dozen women.

B-- One gal wants kids by a couple of dozen men.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:03 AM (rdVOm)

248 Some say times now are not as bad as they were in the '60s.
Where are any lyrics of today depicting this:

But at night it's a different world
Go out and find a girl
Come-on come-on and dance all night
Despite the heat it'll be alright

And babe, don't you know it's a pity
That the days can't be like the nights
In the summer, in the city
In the summer, in the city

Cool town, evening in the city
Dressing so fine and looking so pretty
Cool cat, looking for a kitty
Gonna look in every corner of the city
Till I'm wheezing like a bus stop
Running up the stairs, gonna meet you on the rooftop

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:03 AM (2UA/a)

249 Put some ketchup on it.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 01:04 AM (oq9dX)

250 Consider:

A-- One guy wants kids by a couple of dozen women.

B-- One gal wants kids by a couple of dozen men.
Posted by: JQ at June

Who pays for/supports them?

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:05 AM (YZ0Fo)

251 >>>I had all those wwf figures back in the day. Ultimate warrior was the best cause when you pushed down his back he did a warrior splash.

Posted by: BruceWayne

>Now they have a cologne that The Rock is promoting. Who the fuck wants to smell like a wrassler?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 21, 2026 01:06 AM (fkjGs)

252 All I can think of is that the paved highway 2 miles south of here had a wreck or some other closure, and traffic was detoured to the grid road.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--

Spaced Aliens

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:06 AM (2UA/a)

253 Who pays for/supports them?
Posted by: BruceWayne

In my scenario-- don't worry about it, it isn't you. Or the taxpayers.

A--Independently wealthy man.
B--Independently wealthy woman.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:07 AM (rdVOm)

254 Now they have a cologne that The Rock is promoting. Who the fuck wants to smell like a wrassler?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

I mean I might be interested in "stone cold said so" scent

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:07 AM (YZ0Fo)

255 208 Should take off my sock before retiring, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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May as well take off both of them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:08 AM (2UA/a)

256 In my scenario-- don't worry about it, it isn't you. Or the taxpayers.

A--Independently wealthy man.
B--Independently wealthy woman.
Posted by: JQ at June 21

But see that's the difference. In that scenario yall do what you want. Wouldn't be a life I wanted but good on ya. But that's not how it is.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:09 AM (YZ0Fo)

257 Ok, I'm backing down. I lost my train of thought.

Elon can do what he wants-- it's his life.

I wouldn't want to be either him OR one of his concubines, don't care how much money.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:14 AM (rdVOm)

258 He's made a few high-profile violations of Rule #1, but most of his choices seem to be respectable and do their best to stay out of the limelight.

He dodged a real bullet when that flirtation with AOC went nowhere, though. Rule #1 and how!
...
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
--

Possibly it has to do with the quality of survive-ability combined with the ability to achieve above average; leaving the rest to
who has control over it anyway?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:16 AM (2UA/a)

259
I wouldn't want to be either him OR one of his concubines, don't care how much money.

Posted by: JQ
--

Been independent minded all your life.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:19 AM (2UA/a)

260 Been independent minded all your life.
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:20 AM (rdVOm)

261 Eat a blue hot dog and you're liable to be wang chunging all night.

Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:21 AM (CC0N1)

262 Been independent minded all your life.
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.
Posted by: JQ at

Not a weakness. It's a good thing. Always have your own voice and use it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:22 AM (YZ0Fo)

263
178 I was going through some notes from 2021 in my tablet, and I found the entry, "RONCO Heavy weapons division " with no explanation.”

I’m visualizing a TV ad selling MANPADS and RPG’s with the RONCO Christmas music playing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 21, 2026 01:25 AM (nuNhM)

264 Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.

Posted by: JQ
---

BS, it's taken you this far in good stead. Rough patches are part of the deal. Hang in there.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:26 AM (2UA/a)

265 261 Eat a blue hot dog and you're liable to be wang chunging all night.
Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:21 AM (CC0N1)

does a Blue Hotdog lead to a Night in Bangcock?

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote. at June 21, 2026 01:26 AM (mP0Kj)

266 I've never seen a moron express a shred of sympathy for Jennifer Aniston, who wanted kids, got dumped by a faithless husband, tried to have them later in life, and finally resigned herself to childlessness.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


I've never been asked to express a shred of sympathy for her. I knew nothing of her personal life. Looking at her wiki bio, I would say Aniston is unfortunate. She apparently bought into the "you can have it all" lie.

She put "having kids" on hold for her career. "Friends" started when she was 25. Her first marriage was when she was 31, and lasted until she was 36. "Friends" ended when she was 35.

"Pregnant at 35" is what they used to call "a geriatric pregnancy."

In her own words, she was trying IVF, but it never worked for her. So maybe she was just infertile at that age (or any age) and it was never going to happen? I doubt she lacked money to throw at the problem, medically.

Her second marriage was from the age of 46 to 49, which is getting up to menopause age.

And there was always the option to adopt a child, though that's not for everyone.

And Musk's philandering is worse than Trump's serial-trophy-wifing. I take the Catholic view.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 01:28 AM (VHUov)

267 Eat a blue hot dog and you're liable to be wang chunging all night.
Posted by: Dagwood


Everyone knows blue dogs are for Democrats.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 01:28 AM (VHUov)

268 Ron Popeil's multi-use man pads. When you don't have anyone to shoot or anything to blow up you can go and bring home a freezer full of fish!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:29 AM (2UA/a)

269 260 Been independent minded all your life.
Posted by: Braenyard

Yes. It has become a weakness, sadly.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:20 AM (rdVOm)

Dysfunction is contagious. If you let dysfunctional people into your life, even to help them, it WILL screw up you life.

Independence... equals ... peace... because we never know or can predict who ACTS rational, but will later turn out to have serious problems.

THIS is why I am not dating now...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 21, 2026 01:30 AM (mP0Kj)

270 Yellow dogs

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:31 AM (2UA/a)

271
I use the JPL DE440/441 ephemerides for Stellarium. It's crazy accurate, with an accuracy for the inner solar system of 0.2 mas. That's .2/1000 of an arc second. This is the position of something on the celestial sphere as seen from the earth. In terms of error in actual spatial distance, that works out to be around 200 m at the worst. Their lunar solution is 1.3 cm. IOW, the Moon's actual center of mass is within 1.3cm of where it's calculated to be.

In the neighborhood out to Jupiter and Saturn, that will get up a kilometer or two.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 01:32 AM (w6EFb)

272 Ketchup and mayo on a blue hot dog and you have an All American weiner.

Posted by: wth at June 21, 2026 01:33 AM (oq9dX)

273 I take the Catholic view.

Posted by: mikeski
--

Anything goes?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:37 AM (2UA/a)

274 Coyotes are howling.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 01:38 AM (2UA/a)

275 I'm sofa king independent, that it's very difficult to ask for help when I really need it. And-- nobody offers, because they think I'm capable (?) like, I've always gone it alone before ya know... and they'd rather not be bothered anyway.

Dysfunctional: my fam's picture is right there in the dictionary.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:39 AM (rdVOm)

276 I take the Catholic view.
Posted by: mikeski

Anything goes?
Posted by: Braenyard


Heh. That marriage should be a lifetime thing, and kids should happen within it.

That post was exactly at the Pixy limit for characters.

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 01:40 AM (VHUov)

277 236 Elon doesn’t want to be monogamous.
...
He wants to have as many children as he can. He has the ability to support them and their mothers.
...

Not for long. Gee. what could possibly go wrong?

Elon is the Dare to Be St00p1d posterboy -- until he isnt.

ATLAS SHRUGGED UPDATED FOR ELON
(when the filth foams up around ELON's waist and Trump whispers: NO).

https://tinyurl.com/LIBs-WhatPriceTheirVision
... How he hated his debased need for her, he who loathed self-sacrifice but would give up everything he valued to get in her pants … Did she know?
...
“Why make a product when you can make dollars? Right this second, I’m earning millions in interest off money I don’t even have.”



Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 01:41 AM (XsqmQ)

278 On the bright side! I don't suffer the agony of plastic-faced family get-togethers anymore.

No- or low-contact.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:42 AM (rdVOm)

279 and for something this strange-looking, it didn't taste as atrocious as it appeared.




Can confirm

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at June 21, 2026 01:42 AM (6VErX)

280 Romeo13, if (when, if I want to be accurate) anything happens to hubby--

I. Am. Done. with "dating" or looking for opposite-sex companionship. DONE.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:45 AM (rdVOm)

281 I. Am. Done. with "dating" or looking for opposite-sex companionship. DONE.
Posted by: JQ

Listen, mac

The lady don't like to be bothered, got it?

Or do me and Rocco gotta explain?

Posted by: Surly but considerate bartender Miklos at June 21, 2026 01:52 AM (6VErX)

282 I've never been asked to express a shred of sympathy for her. I knew nothing of her personal life. Looking at her wiki bio, I would say Aniston is unfortunate. She apparently bought into the "you can have it all" lie.

She put "having kids" on hold for her career. "Friends" started when she was 25. Her first marriage was when she was 31, and lasted until she was 36. "Friends" ended when she was 35.

"Pregnant at 35" is what they used to call "a geriatric pregnancy."

In her own words, she was trying IVF, but it never worked for her. So maybe she was just infertile at that age (or any age) and it was never going to happen? I doubt she lacked money to throw at the problem, medically.

Her second marriage was from the age of 46 to 49, which is getting up to menopause age.

And there was always the option to adopt a child, though that's not for everyone.

And Musk's philandering is worse than Trump's serial-trophy-wifing. I take the Catholic view.
Posted by: mikeski at

When she was married to Brad Pitt. She didn't want to have kids which why he "cheated " or whatever. She had a million chances to have kids

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 01:53 AM (YZ0Fo)

283 Posted by: Surly but considerate bartender Miklos

Oh, LOL! Love that!

Thanks, Miklos.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:54 AM (rdVOm)

284 I was unable to conceive. That was XH1's "reason" to cheat on me ask for divorce.

Meh. It's okay, I didn't find hubby until it was *too late* and he has a son anyway. Adopted btw, because he & XW couldn't have their own either.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 01:58 AM (rdVOm)

285 She's always had attention, that's what she worked for.
We've all made bad decisions and we live with them.
Sounds like she's using her bad decision to regain lost attention.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 21, 2026 02:00 AM (2UA/a)

286
No problem, Ma'am

We take care of our regulars

Posted by: Surly but considerate bartender Miklos at June 21, 2026 02:00 AM (6VErX)

287
If you want a little taste of the math involved in those DE integrations, here you go:

https://tinyurl.com/44sey4zy

JPL's DE (development ephemeris) is a full, *relativistic* (meaning Einstein gravity, not Newton, at least to as high an order as needed) numerical integration of the entire Solar System. Just that base run takes days of CPU time on supercomputer clusters. And add a few months on either side of the base run for all the pre and post data processing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:01 AM (w6EFb)

288 She's always had attention, that's what she worked for.
We've all made bad decisions and we live with them.
Sounds like she's using her bad decision to regain lost attention.

Posted by: Braenyard

I'll give her credit for saying "ya I shouldn't have done that" if it makes younger women rethink their path. But ya I have no sympathy for her and her always playing the victim.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:04 AM (YZ0Fo)

289 Hahaha, told ya I put the FUN in dysFUNctional!!!

Really, it's ok. Yeah, I sometimes feel disappointed that my fam is weird & uncaring. Just got to shrug it off & get on with my life, I can't change them. Can't change the sucky dynamics.

But I get tired. So tired. Not getting any younger, LOL.

Soon I'll be yelling at clouds, and wearing an onion on my belt.. because it was stylish at one time I guess?

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:05 AM (rdVOm)

290 Soon I'll be yelling at clouds, and wearing an onion on my belt.. because it was stylish at one time I guess?
Posted by: JQ at June

Should I have waited to do that???

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:07 AM (YZ0Fo)

291 No one talking about the sabotage to the DC Reflecting Pool?

Maniacs!

Here's one. Pleads innocence but something hints otherwise:

https://tinyurl.com/35ba3443

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 21, 2026 02:08 AM (3UbC6)

292
If you want to get a spacecraft, a little probe to rendezvous with a comet or asteroid using all that fancy low-energy gravitational slingshot maneuvering, you need this level of accuracy.

That is your tax dollars at work. According to Grok, trying to put this is in human-scale relatable terms, it would be like me firing a bullet (it would be one hell of a fancy rifle and bullet indeed) and hitting a postage stamp in London within 1mm of the target point on that postage stamp.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:08 AM (w6EFb)

293 Should I have waited to do that???
Posted by: BruceWayne

HellifIknow. Heh.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

294 one talking about the sabotage to the DC Reflecting Pool?

Maniacs!

Here's one. Pleads innocence but something hints otherwise:

https://tinyurl.com/35ba3443
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta

I saw a lefty group showed up and complained that Trump got rid of the algae.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:11 AM (YZ0Fo)

295 Should I have waited to do that???
Posted by: BruceWayne

HellifIknow. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

Hahahahah I been yelling at the clouds since I was 14

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:12 AM (YZ0Fo)

296
And forget to add, that would be a moving postage stamp in London.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:12 AM (w6EFb)

297
Well, we've entered the solstice window. To 0.1" arc second, the Sun has reached it's peak declination, it's northern most point. It will remain there for a little over 4 hours. The sun now stands still. Another two hours until the exact longitude point is reached.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:19 AM (w6EFb)

298 Well, we've entered the solstice window. To 0.1" arc second, the Sun has reached it's peak declination, it's northern most point. It will remain there for a little over 4 hours. The sun now stands still. Another two hours until the exact longitude point is reached.
Posted by: publius, Rascally

Yup. Also known as my birthday.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:21 AM (YZ0Fo)

299 ...because we never know or can predict who ACTS rational, but will later turn out to have serious problems.

THIS is why I am not dating now...
Posted by: Romeo13

You mentioned "dysfunctional" -- yeah, it's hard to discern before becoming *too* involved. I was lucky with current hubby, and BF before him. All the others? Nah, bro-- they were toxic. Just like I was trained to choose, by dysfunction.

Not sure I'd be able to pick another "good one" is what I'm trying to say.

Best to you, Romeo13!

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:24 AM (rdVOm)

300 And forget to add, that would be a moving postage stamp in London.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

FUN FACT

In 1910, it took about 3 days for a letter to travel from London to St. Petersburg in Imperial Russia.

By 1990, that had increased to about three weeks.

Posted by: The stuff Miklos knows at June 21, 2026 02:28 AM (6VErX)

301 287
If you want a little taste of the math involved in those DE integrations, here you go:
...
https://tinyurl.com/44sey4zy
JPL's DE (development ephemeris) is a full, *relativistic* (meaning Einstein gravity, not Newton, at least to as high an order as needed) numerical integration of the entire Solar System. Just that base run takes days of CPU time on supercomputer clusters. And add a few months on either side of the base run for all the pre and post data processing.


But 'splain me. JPL.

why does earth cross Saturn's orbital perihelion foci during the Epiphany, and aphelion foci right about now with an amazing coincidence of 1.03 AU around July 4?

It is Capitol. not Capital -- from Rome/Temple of Jupiter (specifically Jupiter Optimus Maximus, meaning "Jupiter the Best and Greatest").

Huuuge and bigly.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:29 AM (D9K3+)

302 Yup. Also known as my birthday.
Posted by: BruceWayne

All is arranged

Posted by: Sol Invictus at June 21, 2026 02:29 AM (6VErX)

303 but will later turn out to have serious problems.

THIS is why I am not dating now...
Posted by: Romeo13

You mentioned "dysfunctional" -- yeah, it's hard to discern before becoming *too* involved. I was lucky with current hubby, and BF before him. All the others? Nah, bro-- they were toxic. Just like I was trained to choose, by dysfunction.

Not sure I'd be able to pick another "good one" is what I'm trying to say.

Best to you, Romeo13!
Posted by: JQ at

I was engaged 2x. Dated my fair share. I don't think we get to pick. Cause I met she hobbit and knew immediately that was the person for me.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:30 AM (YZ0Fo)

304
The Sun is now directly overhead the Tropic of Cancer (taking precession into account, we should call it the Tropic of Gemini now). The word "tropic" comes from the Ancient Greek Homo talk meaning "turning point". The sun stops, stands still, and then turns south.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 02:31 AM (w6EFb)

305 300 And forget to add, that would be a moving postage stamp in London.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
FUN FACT
In 1910, it took about 3 days for a letter to travel from London to St. Petersburg in Imperial Russia.
...
By 1990, that had increased to about three weeks.

In 1990 MANFRED got on a plane to Detroit and beat the email to the destination.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:31 AM (m961t)

306 304
The Sun is now directly overhead the Tropic of Cancer (taking precession into account, we should call it the Tropic of Gemini now). The word "tropic" comes from the Ancient Greek Homo talk meaning "turning point". The sun stops, stands still, and then turns south.

Which strictly speaking if you back you realize that the zodiacal are not coordinates in the sky but rather points of reference on the ground, because even back then, they knew that the sky was moving, but the earth remained the same and gravity existed because the earth sucked... it was simple enough back then.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:35 AM (Tj3cd)

307 I was engaged 2x. Dated my fair share. I don't think we get to pick. Cause I met she hobbit and knew immediately that was the person for me.
Posted by: BruceWayne

You're probably not 'disordered' then. LOL. I've always been attracted to people (friends or lovers) who are *bad for me* somehow. Or, maybe, they are somehow attracted to me. It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:36 AM (rdVOm)

308 You're probably not 'disordered' then. LOL. I've always been attracted to people (friends or lovers) who are *bad for me* somehow. Or, maybe, they are somehow attracted to me. It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.
Posted by: JQ at

Oh dont get me wrong the others were not great for me. Hahah

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:38 AM (YZ0Fo)

309 It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.
Posted by: JQ

So

There are nekkid pictures of you on somebody's refrigerator somewhere

Posted by: Miklos already regrets hitting post at June 21, 2026 02:39 AM (6VErX)

310 Oh dont get me wrong the others were not great for me. Hahah
Posted by: BruceWayne

But got me where I needed to be

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 21, 2026 02:42 AM (YZ0Fo)

311 There are nekkid pictures of you on somebody's refrigerator somewhere
Posted by: Miklos already regrets hitting post

LMAO!

If so, they'd be very old pics. Doubt I'd be recognized today.

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:43 AM (rdVOm)

312 Almost midnight. Guess I'd better try to sleep...

Good night, horde & thanks for chatting!

https://youtu.be/KJBTOC3Mfpk

Posted by: JQ at June 21, 2026 02:56 AM (rdVOm)

313 Yup. Also known as my birthday.
Posted by: BruceWayne


* lights the birthday signal *

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:04 AM (VHUov)

314 >> why does earth cross Saturn's orbital perihelion foci during the Epiphany, and aphelion foci right about now with an amazing coincidence of 1.03 AU around July 4?

It took me a while to figure out just what you meant by "orbital perihelion foci". For a heliocentric elliptical orbit, the line between between peri- and aphelion is the semi-major axis. The Sun is always at one focus, the primary, and on the other side, you have the other. And for Saturn the distance between those two foci does come to 1.028 AU. So, the secondary focus like about at earth's orbit.

So, you're saying the earth crosses that line of apsides on the aphelion side around July 4th, and on the perihelion side around Epiphany. I think that's it. I'll have to dig around to confirm the dates.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 03:05 AM (w6EFb)

315 It's like I'm a freak magnet. Ugh.
Posted by: JQ


Saw a t-shirt once that read "What am I? Flypaper for freaks?"

Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:06 AM (VHUov)

316 Way to early to get up

Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2026 03:09 AM (Ia/+0)

317 Which strictly speaking if you back you realize that the zodiacal are not coordinates in the sky but rather points of reference on the ground, because even back then, they knew that the sky was moving, but the earth remained the same and gravity existed because the earth sucked... it was simple enough back then.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 21, 2026 02:35 AM (Tj3cd)

The sky, in fact, moves sideways.

Posted by: Porcupine Tree at June 21, 2026 03:24 AM (pKv0r)

318 I'm looking forward to TJM's review of "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's
movie career, beginning with, of course, "They Live".

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 21, 2026 03:28 AM (DxVhp)

319
Well, this is quite the coincidence (of current epoch). The secondary focus distance is 1.08AU currently, a bit farther. And Saturn's line of apsides lines up within the blame it on the Moon fuzz with the earth's own line. That is we hit the Saturn perihelion point about our perihelion, and same for aphelion. A couple-day window around July 5th and Jan 4th.

Now, we've got precession to contend with. Saturn's apsidal precession rate is about around twice earth's own. Throw axial precession in, and Saturn's line of apsides thus walks around our seasons once every 11 - 13K years at the fastest. These things vary in a complex fashion, over 100K year cycles, and after millions of years, well chaotic behavior stars smearing things too much.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 03:33 AM (w6EFb)

320 96 Just think of all the Air Force Ones Trump could buy with the fraud money that Tim Walz handed out to Somali Learing Centers.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:43 PM (6/7Fs)

The Qatar-donated Air Force One?

You CANNOT talk about the Air Force One from Qatar without mentioning that it is the Air Force One from Qatar.

Posted by: The media at June 21, 2026 03:33 AM (pKv0r)

321 Father’s Day.

My third without one. Living, anyway.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2026 03:34 AM (pKv0r)

322
Man, Grok is something else. All that information, Saturn's line of apsides, and precession rate and all that, while not really "arcane", well it would take a while for me to dig that up. Grok can do the digging and run the numbers quickly.

Too late for me to continue, but if Saturn's line of apsides and precession somehow lines up with the Younger Dryas, well, I'll be spooked.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 03:36 AM (w6EFb)

323 315 Saw a t-shirt once that read "What am I? Flypaper for freaks?"
Posted by: mikeski at June 21, 2026 03:06 AM (VHUov)

Yikes.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 03:44 AM (6wpGE)

324 Wolfus Aurelius: regarding fasting for blood draw, black coffee is usually okay, just nothing in it to make it tasty. It's worth asking whether you need to fast, as for many tests you don't have to. Should always fast for lipid panel or CMP (comprehensive metabolic panel.) Drinking sufficient water before your blood draw will make it easier for the phlebotomist, as dehydration makes the blood draw more difficult to perform.

Posted by: frankie at June 21, 2026 04:19 AM (a16Yj)

325
And we have solstice. Sun's ecliptic longitude dead on 90 degrees, and right ascension dead on 6hr.

Summer beings. And it's downhill from here to the Dec.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 21, 2026 04:24 AM (w6EFb)

326 For our fathers who have given us life and love, for those with us and those gone to be with the Lord, we pray.

For those people who have lost their dear father, and those who have lost a child through death, may their faith give them hope, and for family and friends who support and console them, we pray to the Lord.

For men, though without children of their own who like fathers have nurtured and cared for others, we pray to the Lord.

For fathers who have been unable to be source of strength to their children, we pray to the Lord.

God, our Father, in your wisdom and love you made all things , Bless the fathers and grandfathers and grant that we their sons and daughters may honor them with a spirit of profound
respect. Amen.

( From the "Book of Blessings"-20tn century)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2026 04:30 AM (ceTyQ)

327 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 21, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 6/20/2026

Hugo



The movie world continues to make quality films from time to time, and fifteen years ago Martin Scorsese released what I think is one of his best films, the adaptation of the novel The Invention of Hugo Cabret by Brian Selznick. The novel is a children's novel, several hundred pages long but with minimal words on each page and heavily illustrated in black and white pictures. However, I did not care at all about the novel when the film was announced. All I cared about was that Martin Scorsese was making a new movie.

It came, it went. I saw it in theaters, but it was a financial failure. Most people seem to have completely forgotten about it, most people seemingly dismissing it because it's a Scorsese movie that's not a gangster movie. That's all he makes, right? And he's making a children's movie? In 3D? He jumped on that bandwagon? There is every reason to ignore this, right?

Well, I love the film. I've purchased it twice (once on Blu-ray and once the 4K disc), and I've seen it half a dozen times. A couple of weeks ago, though, I decided to actually read the source novel with an eye towards the questions of adaptation. What did Scorsese (and screenwriter John Logan) change? What did they add? What did they take away?

The Story


The story itself is obviously something that would attract Scorsese. It's about the title character Hugo Cabret, an orphan in 1928 whose father died in a fire in a museum where he was working. Hugo's uncle took him in. Claude Cabret maintains the clocks in Gare-du-Nord in Paris. However, we start the story with Hugo alone, his uncle having disappeared for months, maintaining the clocks himself and stealing parts from the toy store in the train station owned by Papa Georges. Hugo is stealing parts to fix an automaton that Hugo's father found in the museum, convinced that it will provide him some kind of secret message from his father once fixed.

Hugo gets caught by Papa Georges, forced to work for him to retrieve the notebook his father had kept detailing the progress with repairs, befriends Papa Georges' goddaughter Isabelle, and discovers that Papa Georges not only designed the automaton but is also George Melies, the pioneering French filmmaker. Hugo's discovery of Papa Georges through the automaton ends up fixing both Hugo's lack of family and Papa Georges' sense of failure at having been forgotten by the world, having been forced to sell his movies to a chemical company who melted them down for heels for women's shoes. The discovery also brings the attention of a French film academic who brings Melies back to the limelight, and all is well with the world of Hugo Cabret.

All of this is nearly identical in both film and novel. The movement of the plot has a handful of changes into a film. Hugo and Isabelle get injured near the middle of the novel, and that's been excised. There's an extra character, Etienne, who acts as a middle-man to connect Hugo and the film academic in the book who's completely gone in the film. However, those are relatively small changes. Hugo's journey, the overall structure of the story, and the dual character repairs between Hugo and Georges are the same. Scorsese took out very little.

He did add a lot, though.

Broader and Deeper


It seems obvious that Brian Selznick enjoys movies. The book is about movies, movie history, and even the use of illustrations in the film are meant to mimic camera movements. There's an opening series of illustrations that effectively make it a pan and zoom from outside Paris in the sky and into Gare-du-Nord (which Scorsese replicates in the film).

However, no matter how much Selznick enjoys movies, he does not enjoy movies nearly as much as Martin Scorsese, the man whose childhood was defined by looking out his apartment window in NYC at the kids who could play while he couldn't because of his asthma as well as watching movies on television (where he was first exposed to the films of the British-based duo Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, the Archers). He also established The Film Foundation, an organization dedicated to preserving and restoring films. He has a very long history of loving, protecting, and making films. He knows a lot.

And what he added into the adaptation was mostly related to side characters that help broaden the story's emotional impact but also deepen the story's appreciation of film, in particular with regard to French film history.

Tati


The additions to the story are mainly around four characters. The station inspector is in the novel, mainly as a generic antagonistic force without much character. Madame Emile and Monsieur Frick are essentially just named store owners who end up helping chase Hugo around late in the novel.

All three of these characters get a lot more time in the film. Madame Emile and Monsieur Frick's additions are mostly silent as Frick tries to woo Emile, but Emile's dog snips at the man. It's just a minor little subplot and comedic drama as the two try to find ways to connect despite the dog. It ends with Frick getting his own dog, and it's a nice addition. Showing another pair of people finding a connection in the train station, a minor way to reinforce the movie's central ideas.

The station inspector gets the most attention, being that antagonistic presence in the story, and the most additions come from a new character created for the film, Lisette. She is a middle-aged woman who sells flowers in the train station that the station inspector yearns for but can't speak to. There are these wonderful moments where the station inspector simply struggles to approach her because of him being very self-conscious of the metal brace on his leg, necessary because of a wound from WWI, and these moments strike me clearly as references to the comedy films of Jacques Tati.

Jacques Tati was a French filmmaker whose cinematic persona was centered around his character M. Hulot. M. Hulot was the star of several of his films, a perennially polite man befuddled by and trying to navigate in a modern world that was increasingly absurd and distancing. His most well-known film is Playtime, a film he self-financed that was also a financial bomb that lead him to living in, essentially, destitution for the rest of his life. The central element of it was the large set called Tativille, a shiny, urban environment with large interior sets and exterior sites that is often held up as one of the most impressive feats in production design in film history.

It's hard not to see a comparison between Tativille and Scorsese's bringing of Gare-du-Nord to cinematic life. A large set (with digital extensions, this ain't all real) filled with human life with bits of human comedy that recall the style of storytelling that Tati did? If this isn't a Tati-inspired series of choices, I'll eat my hat.

Now, this is not important in and of itself. Police Academy 6: City Under Siege has Jacques Tati references, and it's supposedly not very good (I haven't seen it, I just know that the references are there). References don't make films good or bad. However, Scorsese isn't just referencing Tati, he's bringing human emotion to the references that add to the central emotional core. The station inspector finding ways to connect with Lisette despite his feelings of brokenness because of his leg mirrors Hugo and Papa Georges finding each other and fixing each other. It's just told in this Tati-esque manner at the same time.

Adaptation


Is the book always better?

It's a common enough assumption and impression, but I always imagine some kind of long-form adaptation of Jaws that completely lacks the excitement and punch of the Steven Spielberg film but retains more of the novel by Peter Benchley. Hugo, though, is going to be my central counter-argument from now on, though.

Brian Selznick wrote a good book. It's definitely for children, but the combination of story, characters, illustrations, and ending come together to make a satisfying little adventure through a French train station and early cinema history.

Martin Scorsese, though, makes it so much more. He takes everything that's good of the book, and he finds ways to make it all simply better. He finds ways to make the emotional impact hit harder. He finds ways to make the appreciation of cinema more encompassing. He finds ways to bring all these additions together to create a finished product that ends up feeling like an improved draft, like Scorsese acted as an editor who pushed the story into new, better directions that feel natural from the intention of the original author.

The Invention of Hugo Cabret was a book that wanted to be a movie. Martin Scorsese made it into Hugo using all of his technical skill and cinematic acumen to do it.

It is honestly one of the best examples of adaptation I can think of.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

Toy Story 5

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

The Brides of Dracula (Rating 2/4) Full Review "This is a film that seems to have so little story that it just revels in prim properness for long stretches, and it just sucks all the joys the film could have out of it." [Library]

The Two Faces of Dr. Jekyll, or House of Fright, or Jekyll's Inferno (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "It entertains well enough, but it really could have reached a bit higher. " [YouTube]

Sword of Sherwood Forest (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Honestly, the film doesn't ask too much, and it largely delivers. That's not too bad." [Tubi]

A Weekend with Lulu (Rating 1/4) Full Review "Really, the film is light in tone but unable to find any comic reason to really exist even though the situation, characters, and setting are actually rife with that potential." [Library]

The Curse of the Werewolf (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Could this have been the great werewolf movie? I really think so. Hammer was never going to invest in the three hour version, though, so I have to celebrate the solid werewolf adventure I got." [Archive.org]

Taste of Fear, or Scream of Fear (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Effective, stylish, and intelligent, this is a quality find." [YouTube]

Cash on Demand (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's a marvelous character study, impeccably performed, and exactingly filmed." [YouTube]

Captain Clegg, or Night Creatures (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Still, the adventure, performances, and look of the film are fun. " [Library]

Please check out my videos from the last few weeks:

John Ford: The Directors Series
John Ford: The Definitive Ranking
Alexander Mackendrick: The Directors Series
Alexander Mackendrick: The Definitive Ranking
David Lynch: The Directors Series
David Lynch: The Definitive Ranking

Contact

Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.
I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.
My next thread will be on 7/11.

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Comments

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1
*looks about*
*shakes head*
*leaves quietly*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 07:49 PM (O0L8i)

2 Open channel D

Posted by: Open Channel D at June 20, 2026 07:51 PM (tgTrV)

3 *looks about*
*shakes head*
*leaves quietly*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Better than scratching before leaving.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 07:52 PM (B0dAE)

4 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:54 PM (Ia/+0)

5 I'm tempted to copy and paste my YouTube comment here.

Or to write an essay of my own on this topic.

I will say that all directors who are adapting some other work are acting like an editor, I agree with TJM there. But very, very few filmmakers are GOOD enough at it to improve the source material. Most bungle it, miss the point, or maybe (probably often) never actually read or studied it.

Park Chan-Wook actually improved on LeCarre's 'Little Drummer Girl', shockingly enough. Ridley Scott's Blade Runner (and throw in a word or two for the many people who altered the first screenplay) is much better than Dick's 'Do Antroids Dream of Electric Sheep'.

Improving on a work is rare, but it's uncommon for an adaptation to even be competent. Often there's a lot of contraversies even by the successful adaptations like Peter Jackson's adaptation of 'Lord of the Rings' or Zach Snyder's adaptation of 'The Watchmen'.

Hugo though, I don't like it. It didn't move me and kinda low-key annoyed me, frankly. Blame Sasha Baron Cohen if you must, he's part of it, but not the only part.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 07:58 PM (xcxpd)

6 Yes electric sleep is unadaplable havent seen the latest drummer girl adaptation

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:04 PM (bXbFr)

7 Unadaptable

Watchmen was probably faithful but i didnt care for it

Snyder seems to have brought the bug into the dcu

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:07 PM (bXbFr)

8 I often say I don't go to see a movie because its from some director. I saw A Straight Sory, really liked it maybe a year ago and had no idea it was done by David Lynch until the directors series.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Ia/+0)

9 5
Most bungle it, miss the point, or maybe (probably often) never actually read or studied it.


Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 07:58 PM (xcxpd)

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Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)

10 Cavill is mostly charmless because of the script

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (bXbFr)

11 I thought Hugo was boring but it did introduce me to Georges Méliès. So if Scorsese's aim was to shame film preservationists into doing their job, which I have to assume it was... it succeeded.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:09 PM (gKWVE)

12 He shows a lot of charm in other projects

Corenswet has some of reeves manner but still too emo

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:10 PM (bXbFr)

13 Maybe its a question all creatives should ask themselves when taking on a story from another medium.

"Can I make it better?"

Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:10 PM (Zn6QU)

14 Kate Bush, "Hammer Horror":

https://tinyurl.com/2ufzzvv6

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 08:10 PM (kpS4V)

15 Never saw Hugo and never read the source, so no opinion on the adaptation. But Scorsese directed the remake of Cape Fear, which annoyed me more than I thought possible; the original version did a decent job, though it softened John D. MacDonald's ending a bit, while the remake threw away much of the story's core. Still can't believe Scorsese didn't realize what he was doing when he did that.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:11 PM (q3u5l)

16 I'm pretty sure Verhoeven did read the book. He just skipped Heinlein's extended rant 3/4 of the way through. That's where Heinlein was bitching about how inefficient and bloated the armed forces in the "past" (read: the Navy in the 1950s) had become.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:11 PM (gKWVE)

17 Yes some of thr projects are grand ive tried to get through metropolis twice

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:11 PM (bXbFr)

18 Nazi beverly hill (buenod aires area code)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:15 PM (bXbFr)

19 I never saw Hugo

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:15 PM (Ia/+0)

20 He wanted to show brutality unredeemed (thats the point of scorsese)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:16 PM (bXbFr)

21 I was scrolling through Tubi this afternoon (I live a very exciting life) when I came across a show I used to like back in the day, Tenspeed and Brown Shoe. And guess who played Brown Shoe. Jeff Goldblum. I guess he's done everything.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 08:17 PM (ndZc7)

22 A long long time ago

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:20 PM (bXbFr)

23 I liked Hugo but Mrs. Wrecks hated it for reasons unknown. She does hate any syfy and Hugo is, kind of.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 08:20 PM (ndZc7)

24 Armor by John Steakley, a movie of that one would be primo. If they don’t screw it up.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 08:22 PM (LHPAg)

25 Which movie of those discussed was Henry Cavill in?

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 08:22 PM (iIAkP)

26 Brutality unredeemed? Wasn't the core of the original film version of Cape Fear, or of John D. MacDonald's source novel The Executioners. The family in the book and the original film were straight arrows; the family in the remake was a mess and IIRC Nick Nolte's character had deliberately done a crappy job on DeNiro's trial and got him sent up. In the source, the core of the story wasn't simply the menace of Max Cady -- it was watching the main characters having to cast aside their adherence to the rules in order to protect themselves. Scorsese threw all that away.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:25 PM (q3u5l)

27 21 I was scrolling through Tubi this afternoon (I live a very exciting life) when I came across a show I used to like back in the day, Tenspeed and Brown Shoe. And guess who played Brown Shoe. Jeff Goldblum. I guess he's done everything.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 08:17 PM (ndZc7)
--

My mom and I liked that show back in the day. Jeff was so young! I liked that he kept the name Goldblum (I dunno, were they still telling actors to take whitebread names by that point?).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 08:25 PM (kpS4V)

28
Admittedly, I saw "Hugo" on streaming.

But, it didn't do much for me.

I felt like I was watching a guy exhaustively showing me his matchbook collection,

and his enthusiasm didn't connect with me.

Now, a Scorsese box office failure movie that deserves much more love IMHO is "Bringing Out the Dead"

A great movie in which Scorsese doesn't show his cards until the very end, which incidentally is the way I love movies and novels to unfold.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:26 PM (iJfKG)

29 When I worked at the bookstore, I had quite a few customers come in looking for the Mark Savage novels from the Tenspeed and Brownshoe series. They were always disappointed when I told them the books had just been made up for the show and didn't really exist. Wouldn't have minded reading 'em myself, actually -- the Goldblum voice overs reading from them were delightful.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:28 PM (q3u5l)

30 Umm, Prometheus.

*ducks*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 08:29 PM (u/oMr)

31 We watched Pressure a couple of weeks ago. Brendan Fraser does a decent job of portraying Gen. Eisenhower. However, Andrew Scott (portraying the Brit. meteorologist Group Captain James Stagg) steals the show. Scott just dominates every scene he is in.

For those unaware, D-Day was originally planned to occur on June 5th, but Gp. Capt. Stagg warned that the weather was going to be severe on that day. D-Day was delayed to June 6th, and the rest is history.

I noticed in the final credits that the movie was based upon a stage play. Almost everything takes place in a few offices.

The only thing that I thought was a mistake in the film was a scene with a squad of American GIs getting drunk in camp while waiting to embark the landing craft. They would have actually been tossed into the stockade.

I suspect the film does that to give the audience some soldiers to bond with during the invasion scene. Historical film footage was colorized: usually pretty decently, but some was a bit grainy.

Interesting little movie definitely worth a viewing.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:30 PM (ksbjf)

32
I love "The Brides of Dracula " for all its flaws.

It was probably the first quality horror movie I ever saw.

I bought it and still watch it every 1-2 years despite its loungeurs.

It has the best ending of any vampire movie and all the beautiful ladies a 9(?) year old boy could want.

Not perfect but give it a watch. It has a pretty good story as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:31 PM (iJfKG)

33 Seems like Jeff started out in indie movies, where his name didn't matter because, who was gonna watch it? They became cult classics anyway. So by the time The Fly came out and he scored the lead, he had already made his name by being Goldblum.
Emelio Estevez is an interesting case. His Spaniard father (and brother) were "Sheen". Estevez decided he was going to try representing his people (he was literally whiter than Jesus, but whatevs).

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:33 PM (gKWVE)

34 An interview with Marty and his amazing eyebrows about "Hugo":

https://tinyurl.com/2unap3v5

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 08:33 PM (kpS4V)

35 Long time since I've seen Brides of Dracula (my first Hammer film, I think -- saw it when it first came out); may be due for a revisit. Haven't seen all of Hammer's stuff, but usually enjoyed what I saw.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:34 PM (q3u5l)

36 Hugo is awesome in 3D. Martin Scorsese screened 3-D prints of House of Wax (1953) and Dial M for Murder (1954) for the cast and crew as part of the preparation for filming this movie in 3-D. They properly used 3D to help relate the story rather than just as a gimmick.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at June 20, 2026 08:34 PM (NZIuw)

37 The fun bit of movie lore John Derbyshire likes to tell is that he was, like Goldblum, a thug in a famous action movie. "The Way of the Dragon" starring... Bruce Lee.
Derbyshire chose a different path.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 08:35 PM (gKWVE)

38 If memory serves, one of Jeff Goldblum's first screen roles was as a member of the group of thugs that kill Hope Lange in the original Death Wish movie.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:36 PM (q3u5l)

39 Yes its pretty good in the hammer oevre

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:37 PM (bXbFr)

40 Yes he was in deathwish

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:38 PM (bXbFr)

41 I love a guy who has an oeuvre.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 08:39 PM (u/oMr)

42 It was based on a much older vampire tale of the 18th century

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:40 PM (bXbFr)

43
* looks at watch *

Posted by: zombie Russ Meyer at June 20, 2026 08:40 PM (0sNs1)

44 They really leaned on austrian themes rather than romanian

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:41 PM (bXbFr)

45 Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)


And thus missed the theme about citizenship and military service. Verhoeven focused solely on "hunting bugs" and we got cheated-out of the powered armor used by the Mobile Infantry. Oh, he also completely missed the point of Heinlein's novel and re-imagined the society as being ruled by some sort of neo-Nazi government.

Doogie Houser showing up looking like a WWII Wehrmacht officer was another kick in the 'nads for fans of the novel.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:41 PM (ksbjf)

46 My biggest regrets in life have been seeing what I cannot unsee.

Porn in the 70's.

Shitty films ever since.

Read "The Moviegoer" by Percy Walker.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 08:46 PM (qFwJc)

47 Its a poor excuse its a short book

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:47 PM (bXbFr)

48 Starship Troopers was great (the book) you only the right to vote (franchise) if you serve.

Verhoeven is and was a shitstain on the underwear of Hollywood.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 08:48 PM (qFwJc)

49 Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)

What bothered me the most about that movie was how abjectly stupid the 'mobile infantry' was. They walk casually down a 'road' in the desert, no support, no scouts, no nothing... And when a flying bug grabs a commutations guy, the soldiers just stand around looking worried, and eventually the officer shoots the human, and lets the bug fly off.

Even as a teenager, that felt like an insult to my intelligence. And Veerhoven wanted to make a morality play out of that idiocy? F--- that moron. My time would have been better spent watching the ExoSquad or Wing Commander cartoons.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 08:50 PM (3v7ra)

50 While idly scrolling through a streaming service menu, I spotted the recently-produced Red Sonja movie. Part of me wants to watch that movie, just to know for sure if it is monumentally bad as it is reputed to be... But its existence is so insulting, I don't want to dignify it with a 'view' on a streaming platform... Meh. I suppose I'm okay not seeing it...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 08:52 PM (3v7ra)

51 What bothered me the most about that movie was how abjectly stupid the 'mobile infantry' was. They walk casually down a 'road' in the desert, no support, no scouts, no nothing...

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Always protect your flanks.

Posted by: Marshal Georgiy Zhukov at June 20, 2026 08:53 PM (6/7Fs)

52
Lately, I've been rewatching Malcolm in the Middle on Hulu.

It's still great. Several laughs per show. I saw the Helper Monkey for Craig episode yesterday...I don't think I've laughed that hard in years.

Very much worth the rewatch.

Avoid the reboot at all costs. The ruined all the characters and turned the show into a fake and gay, trannie extravaganza. Nutkicks and Cuntpunts all around for that abomination.


Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:53 PM (iJfKG)

53 Starship Troopers was great (the book) you only the right to vote (franchise) if you serve.

Verhoeven is and was a shitstain on the underwear of Hollywood.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 08:48 PM (qFwJc)


Universal suffrage is a fatal flaw to a republic. The Founding Fathers knew this. We are actually living in the "mobocracy" the Founders feared.

You seem to have strong opinions about Verhoeven. LOL.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:55 PM (ksbjf)

54 50 While idly scrolling through a streaming service menu, I spotted the recently-produced Red Sonja movie. Part of me wants to watch that movie, just to know for sure if it is monumentally bad as it is reputed to be... But its existence is so insulting, I don't want to dignify it with a 'view' on a streaming platform... Meh. I suppose I'm okay not seeing it...
Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 08:52 PM (3v7ra)
Will it be Black Sonja? Ghey Sonja? Moslem Sonja?

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 08:55 PM (LHPAg)

55 Yes its quite terrible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:57 PM (bXbFr)

56
Watching the dinosaurs in Vietnam extravaganza, "Primitive War"

Starting slow, not sure if I'll keep with it. But, we're coming to the "WTF!!! There's dinosaurs here!!!" part so I still watch for now.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 08:57 PM (iJfKG)

57 More karen sonja

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:57 PM (bXbFr)

58 Dot, Not Feather Sonja

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:58 PM (ksbjf)

59 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points. Nothing with Michael Ironside can be all bad. Clancy Brown wasn't bad either. I thought most of the bug effects were pretty good. And then there's Dina Meyer.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (q3u5l)

60 How do they keep fouling up easy projects

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (bXbFr)

61 Clancy is good in this and true about ironside who was last seen in nobody

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:00 PM (bXbFr)

62 I saw 2 films recently:

1) The Favourite, and

2) Tea With Mussolini

I loved The Favourite. A beautiful film about Queen Anne's early 18th century court... and Anne's supposed bisexuality. It has a wonderful ensemble cast. And the look of the film is just stunning!

I disliked Tea, one of Franco Zeffirelli's last films. The story drowns in treacle. I watched it on Amazon Prime, and I thought it was funny that it had subtitles for the English parts, which I could understand perfectly well without subtitles. But NO subtitles for the Italian parts, which I couldn't understand at all! But I got the gist of it. It's a mess.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:01 PM (RCjYY)

63 59 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points

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The co-ed showers were the only thing that left an impression on my primitive male lambic consciousness.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (6/7Fs)

64 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points. Nothing with Michael Ironside can be all bad. Clancy Brown wasn't bad either. I thought most of the bug effects were pretty good. And then there's Dina Meyer.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (q3u5l)


Yeah, I like "Starship Trooper", but I never read the novel.

It's a very well-made, and well-directed movie that know exactly the story it wants to tell. Linear plotting to a great ending.

And yes, Dina Meyer!!!! What ever happened to her?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (iJfKG)

65 Limbic.

Whatever.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (6/7Fs)

66 Close enough

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:04 PM (bXbFr)

67 Will it be Black Sonja? Ghey Sonja? Moslem Sonja?
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 08:55 PM (LHPAg)

We almost got half of the first; the mixed-race actress who played Ghost in the marvel movies was attached to the project for a while. I'm assuming we got a bit of the second; with an alphabet-director adapting a comic written by a raging leftist. And the third....would have just been insulting, since the original book-version of Red Sonya was actively fighting Muslims at the Siege of Vienna...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 20, 2026 09:05 PM (3v7ra)

68 Shes been in mostly direct to video fare

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:07 PM (bXbFr)

69 Dina Meyer's still working according to her IMDb entry -- more TV than features, it looks like.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:07 PM (q3u5l)

70 Possibly off topic, I've sort of always had idea's for movies but never really had any drive to put pen to paper as they say, so I got the bug and was looking at screenwriting software, tried a couple of them, they were all way overly complex and gui centric.

So I'm a neovim/vim/cli kind of guy, so I bashed together a config that basically looks like a word processor from the 80's but has screenwriting hooks.

I've been testing it out with the screenplay to Sinners.

Basically copying the entire structure verbatim, it's working out pretty good.

I will say this, reading the screenplay to Sinners is fascinating because what's on paper is so dry and matter of fact, and quite frankly boring, that I have no idea how that film got made or had any interest.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 09:07 PM (XV/Pl)

71 Last project was a variation on the graduate (still looks hawt)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:08 PM (bXbFr)

72 Cubicle farms -

I think most people would hate working in that cubicle farm in the pic above. Fake privacy.

Worked on this office building that had a cubicle farm largely divided up into groups of 2 x 3 like pips on a die, and divided into two large groups, half with six foot walls and the other half (near the windows) with four foot walls.
However, because of overall size of the space and walk-ways, not all groups were 2x3, there were some 2x2, 1x3...

But this one solo cubbie with four foot walls and walk-ways on all four sides. We called it 'the tank'. While sitting there anybody from any side walking could casually walk-by and make sure you are keeping your nose down to the grindstone.

In the land of cubicle hell that was the 9th circle, err square.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:08 PM (/lPRQ)

73 How so

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:09 PM (bXbFr)

74 Its certainly about racism and music and vampires

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:10 PM (bXbFr)

75 Well thats the subtext

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:12 PM (bXbFr)

76 Doogie Houser showing up looking like a WWII Wehrmacht officer was another kick in the 'nads for fans of the novel.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop


IIRC, Doogie really did a number on that bug's orifice with a big honking probe.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:14 PM (/lPRQ)

77 Do work in a cubical, yet see them all the time in new building
Actually look a lot more modern and if working in a occupied building seems people move a bit of home to them.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:15 PM (Ia/+0)

78 72

Did you know this?

The 9th circle is the LEAST bad, IIRC. He put Judas Iscariot & Caesar's assassins in the 1st circle, I think.

Souls in the 9th circle were merely "buffeted by strong winds," I believe. Could be worse.

Dante also put a lot of Italian politicians in the 1st circle--people no-one today ever heard of. That's because Dante disliked them.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:16 PM (RCjYY)

79 And actually one of the more fascinating things about programming a config for screenplays is how rigid (that's a good thing) the structure is, makes life easy when there are a limited number of parameters.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 09:16 PM (XV/Pl)

80 May have to give Sinners another watch some time. Didn't find it dull, but it didn't do much for me either.

In one of Borges's essays or lectures, I think he said that if a book didn't appeal to you, you should set it aside -- the writer apparently wasn't talking to you and you should try the book later.

Same for movies, I think. There are an awful lot of movies and books these days that simply aren't talking to me.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:17 PM (q3u5l)

81 Kind of like with dan browns inferno when they change the ending because it is a horror (also they tone down the evil of the who)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:19 PM (bXbFr)

82 Kind of from dusk till dark in the south

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:20 PM (bXbFr)

83 addendum to post 78:

I erred. The 9th circle is the least bad-- where he put unbaptised infants, etc. The v1st circle is the really bad one, where he put Judas Iscariot & his own political enemies.

I DID saY IIRC.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:20 PM (RCjYY)

84 I DID saY IIRC.
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:20 PM (RCjYY)

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I'll allow it.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Propriety Review Referee at June 20, 2026 09:21 PM (6/7Fs)

85 I always get a kick out of Europe's bitch about the "far right." What is the far right? In my mind, the far right are Catholics. Intelligent, educated, resistant to state controlled schools teaching atheism.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:23 PM (qFwJc)

86 The Nine Circles
First Circle (Limbo) – Home to the unbaptized and virtuous pagans.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:23 PM (/lPRQ)

87 As I was reminded, Dante is not canon law.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:24 PM (qFwJc)

88 I dont know why sundance for inatance decides to bring classic superman (unless they want to make the new stuff)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:25 PM (bXbFr)

89 Dante also put a lot of Italian politicians in the 1st circle--people no-one today ever heard of. That's because Dante disliked them.
Posted by: mnw


Dante did put certain known people of his time into appropriate circles - sodomites, thieves, etc.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:25 PM (/lPRQ)

90 Very possible Tolkien will be canonized.
Dante Alighieri won't be. He hated the popes of his time.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:26 PM (gKWVE)

91 Superman 3 &4 were progresiveky worse

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:26 PM (bXbFr)

92 Jeez that's hard to keep straight!

I was right the first time. The 9th circle is bfor the worst sinners.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:27 PM (RCjYY)

93 Well they',re werent great popes back then (some were)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:27 PM (bXbFr)

94 I read "The Inferno" with delight. So interesting. All good stuff.

I got stuck at "The Purgatorio." Too close to home.

Pride of family. Pride of accomplishment.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:28 PM (qFwJc)

95 @91

>>Superman 3 &4 were progresiveky worse

They really should have stopped at 1, but two was not terrible.

Most films do not need a sequel.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 09:29 PM (XV/Pl)

96 1/3 third were great Popes. 1/3 were mediocre. 1/3 were very bad men. Francis and Leo are heretics.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:30 PM (qFwJc)

97 It had some corny elements but man of steel (really gets my goat) for botching the thing

They need to bring back zombie salkind

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:31 PM (bXbFr)

98 Pope Joan brought a real sense of feminine sensibilities to the Papal Offices..

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:31 PM (6/7Fs)

99 Very possible Tolkien will be canonized.
Dante Alighieri won't be. He hated the popes of his time.
Posted by: gKWVE


IIRC, he put a current or recent Pope into hell with a blown out rectum for a lifetime of... blowing his rectum out.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (/lPRQ)

100 Superman is not a callous immoral thief

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (bXbFr)

101
And yes, Dina Meyer!!!! What ever happened to her?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 09:02 PM (iJfKG)

Her and Denise Richards.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (T6aVk)

102 A nice bit of adaptation? A Simple Plan, Sam Raimi director and script by Scott Smith based on his novel. Smith and Raimi play around quite a bit with some of the events at about mid-point in the story IIRC but the movie still finishes in the same place the book does.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:33 PM (q3u5l)

103 LOL The fucktards recent Popes have been "cannonized."

Is Dante in paradise? After 500 years, most heathens are free.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:34 PM (qFwJc)

104 Pope Joan brought a real sense of feminine sensibilities to the Papal Offices..

You Mormon?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:35 PM (qFwJc)

105 The latest superman is just aimless cgi without any heart

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:37 PM (bXbFr)

106 But the original had many practical effects

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:38 PM (bXbFr)

107 Seriously, I never heard of Pope Joan, but from a Mormon, that was a fag and died quite a while ago. Please pray for the soul of my dear old friend. He was a friend. But not sexually. He went off to BYU.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:39 PM (qFwJc)

108 Pope Alexander VI is regarded as the one who was so corrupt, he set the table for Martin Luther.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:40 PM (RCjYY)

109 105 The latest superman is just aimless cgi without any heart
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:37 PM (bXbFr)

hot blonde and Lobo. I'm in

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 09:41 PM (xcxpd)

110 I liked Hugo quite a bit. It was quirky, but I loved the grande homage to very early film making.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:41 PM (nuNhM)

111 59 Starship Troopers is an ideal example of a movie made by someone who hates the source material. It does, however, have some good points. Nothing with Michael Ironside can be all bad. Clancy Brown wasn't bad either. I thought most of the bug effects were pretty good. And then there's Dina Meyer.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 08:59 PM (q3u5l)

I like both (the book and the movie).

The movie is one of those examples of the maker hate-fucking the material, but inadvertently making something good and conveying different messaging despite his intentions anyway.

Kind of like The Wire. What people take away from it and what was intended are generally two different things.

This is often the case with people who are blinded by their ideology. Like the movie Men. Supposedly a feminist screed. Normies watching it: bitch be cray-cray.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 09:43 PM (MIvVV)

112 The one last year

This one is like guardians but a more emo ronan

That comic has like a 60 year run they chose this arc

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:44 PM (bXbFr)

113 Pope Joan was a legend. Kind of the reverse "big mike" of the Middle Ages. The Papacy recalled a "dark age" when, basically, female prostitutes were running the place. Because the bishops of Rome were just that bad.
Alexander VI Borja might not have been a moral paragon but he did care about keeping the Church safe, stable, and independent. John XII on the other hand showed up to the Papal offices aged all of 18 and ready to party, including with other mens' wives. He was almost literally Pope Paolo.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:44 PM (gKWVE)

114 Verhoeven bragged that he never finished reading Starship Troopers.
Posted by: TJM's phone at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (Zn6QU)

Which is why I despise that movie. It had some great SFX, but Verhoeven took one of Heinlein’s greatest books and shit in its mouth.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:45 PM (nuNhM)

115 I'll come out and say it, Verhoeven's "Starship Troopers" was kino. It was good. It's a satire and a parody and can be enjoyed on several levels. Like "Robocop".

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:45 PM (gKWVE)

116 He did introduce me to the delight of great Summer refreshment. Half seven-up, half orange juice, and a scoop of orange sherbet.

It was the Summer of 1970. Charlie Manson. He liked to what "Dark Shadows." I was bored. I went back to the beach, which was 2 blocks from my house.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:45 PM (qFwJc)

117 "Souls in the 9th circle were merely "buffeted by strong winds".

That's me every morning.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 09:46 PM (vFG9F)

118 BTW this is why there exist at least two miniseries about the Borgias. There's real complexity there.
Nobody is going to write a miniseries about the Theophylacts, because everyone just sucks and there's no excuse for those guys.
Although a Cadaver Synod movie might at least be funny.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:47 PM (gKWVE)

119 gKWVE

You would make a mockery of Ben-Hur. Fuck you and go to hell.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:48 PM (qFwJc)

120 Thats who machiavelli used as a model the borgias

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (bXbFr)

121 Bear,

I'd have loved to see a Starship Troopers faithful to the source. That said, the bug effects and the presence of Ironside, Brown, and Meyer kept the movie watchable even in the moments when you could almost feel Verhoeven spitting on the source. The movie's not what it could have been, but in spite of all that, I kinda like it too. I just wish it had been better.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (q3u5l)

122 Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:48 PM (qFwJc)

u mad bro?

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (gKWVE)

123 121 Bear,

I'd have loved to see a Starship Troopers faithful to the source. That said, the bug effects and the presence of Ironside, Brown, and Meyer kept the movie watchable even in the moments when you could almost feel Verhoeven spitting on the source. The movie's not what it could have been, but in spite of all that, I kinda like it too. I just wish it had been better.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:49 PM (q3u5l)

There is a better Japanese adaptation, it keeps the mech suits.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 09:50 PM (xcxpd)

124 108 Pope Alexander VI is regarded as the one who was so corrupt, he set the table for Martin Luther.
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:40 PM (RCjYY)

That’s what the Catholic leadership said at the time, because they hated Alexander for being a Spaniard who was crashing their Italians only party.

But in fact the fault lies with Pope Leo X, the Medici banker pope who was desperate to raise funds, and who commissioned the sale of indulgences to do so. That’s what lit the fire in Northern Europe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (nuNhM)

125 There was a sequel (actually) a third part where the war against the bugd have really gone badly and there is incipient revolution

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (bXbFr)

126 Barbara Tuchman wrote a good popular history called "The Pursuit of Folly."

One of the 4 sections concerns the failure of the Renaissance Church to reform itself.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (RCjYY)

127 126 Barbara Tuchman wrote a good popular history called "The Pursuit of Folly."

One of the 4 sections concerns the failure of the Renaissance Church to reform itself.
Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:51 PM (RCjYY)

That's a good one, worth reading

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 20, 2026 09:52 PM (xcxpd)

128 It deserved a proper adaptation (failung that another film that didnt wear its skin) see rebel moon (actually dont,)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:53 PM (bXbFr)

129 124

Indulgences were the proximate cause, but I would argue not the root cause.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:53 PM (RCjYY)

130 Say what you will, but Alexander VI threw one hell of a party.

"God has given us the papacy. Let us enjoy it."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:54 PM (6/7Fs)

131 Yeah. I am pissed that such a shitstain as yourself tries be a peaceful shit that you are and can not be challenged.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:54 PM (qFwJc)

132 Heinlein's one of those writers who really hasn't been well-served in film adaptations, isn't he? ST, The Puppet Masters (Sutherland perfectly cast, and some nice slug effects, the rest just so-so). Predestination seemed a bit garbled to me; maybe I just need to give it another look. And I think there was a Japanese adaptation of The Door Into Summer not long ago -- fell asleep during that one, and maybe I just need to revisit that one too.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:54 PM (q3u5l)

133 The Church diverted from the Word

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:55 PM (bXbFr)

134 qFwJc, I have done absolutely nothing to deserve this abuse from you.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 09:56 PM (gKWVE)

135 Then again luther kind of inspired the 30 years war

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:56 PM (bXbFr)

136 It was a popular belief that Alexander VI was so corrupt, his body started to putrify while he was alive.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 09:57 PM (RCjYY)

137 Funny how ocp is the optimum version of law enforcement now

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (bXbFr)

138 It's a movie thread. Go be mad somewhere else.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (vFG9F)

139 And outta here for the evening.

TJM, thanks for the thread.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (q3u5l)

140 The syfy series was one of the best adaptations

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:58 PM (bXbFr)

141 For robocop

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at June 20, 2026 09:59 PM (bXbFr)

142 Callixtus III was the first Borgia pope. Alexander VI was a nepo baby.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 09:59 PM (6/7Fs)

143 gKWVE,

You deserve every bit of abuse. You repeated old lies.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 10:00 PM (qFwJc)

144 Just now putting some books up and one was a twofer, Starship Troopers and Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 10:00 PM (LHPAg)

145 There was nothing particularly wrong with the Starship Troopers movie that boobs couldn't fix.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (vFG9F)

146 This chat room has escalated beyond a blog status.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 10:02 PM (fkjGs)

147 ONT nood

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 10:02 PM (kOluj)

148 Kami Harris is so dumb that she thought they were serving BBQ Beaver at Buc-ees in Texas.....

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 20, 2026 10:45 PM (Es4vZ)

149 Three books improved in the movie come immediately to mind.
Jaws.
The Godfather.
Holes.
Plenty more out there. Most film noir movies based on books.
Of course, Lawrence of Arabia is a great movie based on fictional autobiography.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 20, 2026 10:57 PM (Skc+N)

150 I liked Hugo quite a bit. It was quirky, but I loved the grande homage to very early film making.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 09:41 PM (nuNhM)


There is a good documentary about Méliès free on YouTube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NWN90TU6vdg

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at June 20, 2026 11:50 PM (NZIuw)

151 I believed that movies were never as good as the books on which they were based, until I read and saw "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."

Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:18 AM (CC0N1)

152 Her and Denise Richards.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 09:32 PM (T6aVk)

The school uniforms they wore at the beginning.,,wow.

(Not being a perv at all, as Denise Richards was 25 and Dina Meyer was 30, or at least close to 30.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2026 03:22 AM (pKv0r)

153 I believed that movies were never as good as the books on which they were based, until I read and saw "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."
Posted by: Dagwood at June 21, 2026 01:18 AM (CC0N1)


Which version of the movie? Swedish (2009) or English with Daniel Craig (2011)?

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at June 21, 2026 12:36 PM (NZIuw)

154 An example of a film being better than the source novel, IMO, is Blade Runner. I read Philip K. Dicks novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and it was OK, but I'm not a big PKD fan. I am, however, a huge fan of the Blade Runner movie. I think Ridley Scott took the source and transformed it into one of the best Sci-Fi movies ever. (The Directors Cut, not the original with the Harrison Ford voice over. It was good but not as good as the Directors Cut.)

It doesn't happen often but that's an example of the film transcending the source.

Posted by: SL at June 21, 2026 03:41 PM (eW3mZ)

Hobby Thread - June 20, 2026 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is on fire. It spun and spun and landed on a candle theme for this Hobby Thread.

"All the darkness in the world cannot extinguish the light of a single candle." St. Francis Of Assisi.

[Photo credit: NoName_13 on Pixabay]

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Quick shout out to all the Hordelings that attended the Virginia MoMe. I can now confirm that some of you exist in real life. Thank you for making the trip. Great to spend quality time on a lovely day with the AoS family.

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A candle theme? I'm a little surprised myself but enough people mentioned it in the comments last week to tilt the Wheel of Hobbies (TM). But how interesting can candles be???? Let's find out together.

I did not realize that candle making is such a big thing. Based on YouTube videos, approximately half of the world's population is currently involved in candle-making and posting videos about how to do it. Have I missed something that everyone else knows about? Is candle making a cult? Is there a conspiracy to lure new and unsuspecting non-candle makers into the club? And do people really burn this many candles? So many questions...

From my limited research, it seems that the first requirement of candle making is a kitchen. You must repurpose your mixer, pots, stove top and kitchen counter. Seems like you could make cookies instead if you're going to go through all that, but I am a dinosaur with a small brain and have much to learn.

It also seems like many candlemaking videos are oriented to people trying to make a small business out of candlemaking, not just hobbying. I have stayed away from videos that scream "THE TOP 10 THINGS YOU MUST DO IN YOUR CANDLEMAKING BUSINESS" or "I MADE $300,000 LAST YEAR SELLING CANDLES FROM MY BASEMENT!!!!"

Do you make candles? Do you have traditions that involve candles?

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What are you hobbying?

Candles are the theme, but the thread is not limited to candles. In fact, anything (legal) you are hobbying is welcome. Even if the theme does not speak to you, you might learn something. If not, find something else or offer something else relating to hobbying. If all of that fails, just check in and say hello.

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring churches). Ignore whatever gibberish Kamala is talking about these days. Pants are optional. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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There are a bazillion videos on YouTube about how to make candles in your home.

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Carving candles?

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Step 1: make candles in the most inefficient way possible
Step 2: have French people make the candles
Step 3: sell inefficient French-made candles as a "luxury" item for $660
Step 4: profit!

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Prefer your candle making with a little history?

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Guess Yankee Candles are a thing?

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Asking the important questions - where did the candle wax go?

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Time for science!

Do citronella candles work to repel mosquitos?

Citronella and Mosquitoes: What Really Works to Keep Them Away

Citronella oil is extracted from Cymbopogon species - types of lemongrass - and is rich in mosquito-repelling compounds like citronellal, citronellol, and geraniol. These compounds interfere with mosquitoes' ability to locate humans by masking the scents that attract them.

However, the "citronella plant" often found in garden centers (usually a type of scented geranium) contains very little citronella oil and does not offer the same protection unless its leaves are crushed and applied directly - a far cry from the ease of a ready-to-use spray.

Citronella candles and tiki torches are popular for outdoor use, but their range and effectiveness are limited. They may provide mild deterrence in a small radius but are not sufficient for lasting protection, especially if there's even a light breeze.

Similarly, decorative citronella plants add aesthetic value but don't repel mosquitoes unless the plant's oils are actively released. This makes them more of a conversation piece than a serious solution.

For those seeking reliable mosquito relief, citronella-containing sprays and wipes offer several practical options. They contain active concentrations of citronella oil and are designed to be applied directly to the skin, where they provide a more consistent barrier.

I hate mosquitos.

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Wax selection seems to be a big deal.

Lots of videos out there but most are unhelpful (at least to me). Soy? Paraffin? Beeswax? Coconut? Palm? Blends? I don't know. Eco-friendly and sustainable? Sorry - I just can't inflict a video on you from a woman named Flower with a septum piercing trying to explain it. It makes my small dino head hurt.

Until I learned about edible candles...now you have my attention.

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Where do those funky candle shapes come from? Silicone molds! Can you make candles in silicone molds with beeswax? Yes!

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Making wood candlesticks on a lathe. Sounds like a great idea!



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There is nothing like singing Silent Night at a Christmas Eve service by candlelight:

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German Christmas pyramids are a great use of candles.

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Horde Hobbying

Teresa in Fort Worth has been busy stitching a stocking for her young grandson, Niko.

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Nice!

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an childhood hobbies theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comments from last week:

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She gets it. Thank you.

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 All right. No cursing the darkness, now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 05:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

2 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)

3 I'm waiting to read all the candlemakers waxing eloquent about their hobby.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 05:32 PM (1Ff7Z)

4 Mosquitos...

Back in the day we had "smudge pots." They burned diesel. Smoky. Mosquitos didn't like them.

Neither did we.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 05:37 PM (jehhT)

5 That stocking by Teresa in Fort Worth is delightful. What a wonderful gift for little Niko.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:37 PM (yTvNw)

6 If my wife opined here, she does make candles every once in awhile. She lights them daily.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:39 PM (Ia/+0)

7 All right. No cursing the darkness, now.

There's a classic Peanuts strip (that I couldn't find with a quick search) where Linus makes that quote and then says "Some people may disagree." And the third panel is Lucy shaking her fist at the sky and yelling "YOU STUPID DARKNESS!!"

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 05:42 PM (vTZFs)

8 The candle that smells like broccoli farts - it's the "soy wax" it is made from.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 05:42 PM (/lPRQ)

9 There used to be a candle store in all the malls. I think those have vanished along with bookstores, drugstores, men's clothing (except for the stuff in the department stores), and hobby supplies.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:43 PM (wzUl9)

10 The green spirals of Citronella yhat you light are worthless, even with no wind.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (B0dAE)

11 I can't smell the candles any more.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (Cqx++)

12 Mosquitos...

Back in the day we had "smudge pots." They burned diesel. Smoky. Mosquitos didn't like them.

Neither did we.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026


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There were those little coils that you lit at one end and that burned, sending up smoke to deter mosquitoes and other insects. Are those still around?

And Shell No-Pest Strips? I know those are gone, but are there any modern items you can hang up to send insects fleeing without choking yourself?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:45 PM (wzUl9)

13 Most of the candles Miss Linda makes me whiff at Walmart and World Market do not smell at all the way they are labeled. They aren't bad, but they don't match the aroma mentioned on the label.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:46 PM (wzUl9)

14 I got supplies at Candlesandsupplies.com for my wife.

Picked up wax. Sent, color, mold and don't think she used them yet.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:47 PM (Ia/+0)

15 The candle that smells like broccoli farts - it's the "soy wax" it is made from.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 05:42 PM (/lPRQ)

A well known scent in the German High Command Center in the early 40's.

Wolfus, see any other good prospects?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 05:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

16 Still mechanic-ing today. Fabbing up a muffler and tailpipe for a '68 Buick Wildcat from pieces the car's owner provided. Muffler and over-axle "U" bend are dummied up in place. Now I have to figure out some sort of short piece with 45 degree elbows at each end to transition from the outlet of the U-bend to the tailpipe which must go straight back. Want to do all the tricky welding on the bench.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM (1z8ji)

17 Speaking of molds, my clay medallion mold for my cartridge box I think is hard enough, now just have to melt plumbing solder and try pouring it.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM (Ia/+0)

18 AoSHQ is my hobby. Does that count?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM (77rzZ)

19 Wolfus, see any other good prospects?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026


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Yeah, my house hunting is turning into a hobby, isn't it? There was the very nice 2BR/1BA place with a rear deck, floors all done, walls painted in colors I already liked, basement, 2-car garage next to the house. Good price. Bad? Located a block from a low-income, "affordable housing" (read: Section development. The development looks worlds better and cleaner than the same things you see here . . . but how long will it stay that way?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (wzUl9)

20 Hey, TRex! Long time no see./

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (77rzZ)

21 Never tried making candles but I've seen and read about it, including that Townsends video. I suspect most people approach it as a hobby to preserve a skill and perhaps to make gifts. I can say the scent from beeswax candles is very pleasant and the light from them makes for a relaxing glow. I want a good lamp for reading but for general illumination candle light is hard to beat. Like sitting around a campfire, it encourages story telling and conversation.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (yTvNw)

22 There were those little coils that you lit at one end and that burned, sending up smoke to deter mosquitoes and other insects. Are those still around?

And Shell No-Pest Strips? I know those are gone, but are there any modern items you can hang up to send insects fleeing without choking yourself?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:45 PM (wzUl9)

The good mosquito coils had pyrethrin (a plant extract) in them, and worked quite well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (1z8ji)

23 16 Want to do all the tricky welding on the bench.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:48 PM
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Best wishes on the project.

I have contemplated welding as a hobby theme from time to time. Yes? No?

Posted by: TRex - metal melding dino at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

24 That top picture reminds me that when I was in Boy Scouts, my top hobby was Setting Things on Fire. That and Centaurii - Estes rockets.

I was not unusual. We all used to say that the REAL Boy Scout Motto was “Fire is Good! Fire is our Friend!” My mother would wonder why I would come back from camping trips with my eyebrows obviously singed.

I’m sure any modern day mamby pamby version of scouts today would be horrified by that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:51 PM (nuNhM)

25 I bought some beeswax candles and had them blessed by a priest for the "Three Days of Darkness."

I hope that I never have to light them.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 05:51 PM (qFwJc)

26 I've tried commercial citronella candles to deter skeeters with little success. Smoke from my pipe does a better job.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:53 PM (yTvNw)

27 And there's a nice 2BR/2BA place also for sale, with nearly everything I want, no HOA. About $7K above my price range, though, and it also has those sliding glass doors giving onto the deck -- this time in the living room. I hate that look.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (wzUl9)

28 Back in the day, on New Years Day, we would walk through the alleys of Pacific Beach collecting Christmas trees. We would take them to the beach and oh what a bonfire we would have. That was back when there were concrete fire rings on the beach.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (qFwJc)

29 20 Hey, TRex! Long time no see./

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM
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Hey Bulg! Glad you made it back home without the need for a bail money call.

Posted by: TRex - social dino at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

30 I love candles.

But. No strong florals and NO FOOD SMELLS.

I do love sandalwood and tobacco and Frankensence. And cedar, pine and fir.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 05:55 PM (A5RD0)

31 24 That top picture reminds me that when I was in Boy Scouts, my top hobby was Setting Things on Fire. That and Centaurii - Estes rockets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:51 PM
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Absolutely.

Posted by: TRex - fireman dino at June 20, 2026 05:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

32 I have contemplated welding as a hobby theme from time to time. Yes? No?
Posted by: TRex - metal melding dino at June 20, 2026 05:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

Could be an interesting topic. I don't regard it as a hobby myself, but it is a very useful skill that enhances the pursuit of other hobbies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:56 PM (1z8ji)

33 I do love sandalwood and tobacco and Frankensence. And cedar, pine and fir.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 05:55 PM (A5RD0)

No myrrh no more?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (1z8ji)

34 Want to do all the tricky welding on the bench.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

This is wise.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (B0dAE)

35 I was born with the specific human genes that produce a massive quantity of ear wax. It’s kind of my superpower. Not a great one I admit, an annoyance thus far, but it’s high time I put it to good use. I imagine I could excrete a candle/month, sell them in the french candle market as a luxury, and become the musk of earwax candles. $$$$

Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (ZdKYs)

36 For anti mosquito duty, I always like Citronelle candles. Old southern favorite, from a plant that grows prolifically in Alabama, Georgia, and north Florida. I would say it kinda smells like creosote, mosquitoes don’t like it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (nuNhM)

37 For years in my place I lit incense sticks. No, not those nasty patchouli or other cloying smells you choke on in incense and head shops. These, from a company in Albuquerque called Incienso de Santa Fe, came in little bricks that when burned smelled wonderfully of cedar, pinon, alder, and other mountain/high desert woods.

Amazon has them. I haven't bought a new pack in a while; I need to.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:58 PM (wzUl9)

38 Mosquitoes also do not like cigarette smoke.

Bonus.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (qFwJc)

39 29 TRex, I think that CBD preemptively paid all of our bail.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (77rzZ)

40 My daughters and I have made candies in vintage tea cups, they turned out really pretty! I should do that again.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (p4NUW)

41 > The good mosquito coils had pyrethrin (a plant extract) in them, and worked quite well.
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I have a spray bottle of pyrethrin that I spray on my work clothes during the summer. The mosquitos right now are excessive around here. I got bit about a half dozen time earlier while spraying for weeds along the driveway. Even with the clothes sprayed with it.

Bastards.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (jehhT)

42 My other hobby of scrap metal collecting has paid off two weeks in a row.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:01 PM (Ia/+0)

43 B0dAE)

35 I was born with the specific human genes that produce a massive quantity of ear wax. It’s kind of my superpower. Not a great one I admit, an annoyance thus far, but it’s high time I put it to good use. I imagine I could excrete a candle/month, sell them in the french candle market as a luxury, and become the musk of earwax candles. $$$$
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (ZdKYs)

That’s about the nastiest post I’ve ever read here. I’m sorry, this is in the same class as the old Indian Guru who had big tufts of 6” long hair growing out of his ears.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:02 PM (nuNhM)

44 >Mosquitoes also do not like cigarette smoke.

Bonus.
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Or cigar smoke....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 06:03 PM (jehhT)

45 I hate that look.

Just IMO but don't commit the rest of your life to a house with a structural feature that you really hate. Paint is easy, replacing fixtures is easy, etc. Changing a large door that is the primary access to the yard is crazy. Doable, but crazy. And expensive.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 06:03 PM (vTZFs)

46 I have basically been ordered to show up at this Texas MoMe.

Otherwise, who knows what RMBS — or worse, his mother — will do to me.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:05 PM (77rzZ)

47 43 B0dAE)

35 I was born with the specific human genes that produce a massive quantity of ear wax. It’s kind of my superpower. Not a great one I admit, an annoyance thus far, but it’s high time I put it to good use. I imagine I could excrete a candle/month, sell them in the french candle market as a luxury, and become the musk of earwax candles. $$$$
Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2026 05:57 PM (ZdKYs)

That’s about the nastiest post I’ve ever read here. I’m sorry, this is in the same class as the old Indian Guru who had big tufts of 6” long hair growing out of his ears.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:02 PM (nuNhM
Call Gwyneth Paltrow, she hook you up.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 06:08 PM (LHPAg)

48 I have basically been ordered to show up at this Texas MoMe.

Otherwise, who knows what RMBS — or worse, his mother — will do to me.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:05 PM (77rzZ)

Are you expecting RMBS to say "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot"?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 06:09 PM (qx7Zg)

49 You don’t wanna hear about Banana Dream’s ear wax? Be off with you, H8R!

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:10 PM (77rzZ)

50 I really hate the smell of citronella candles. I'd rather endure the skeeters. But I am not a skeeter magnet, so it's not a problem. My late sister would get attacked like crazy. I believe it's a blood type thing, at least partly.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at June 20, 2026 06:10 PM (0aYVJ)

51 27 And there's a nice 2BR/2BA place also for sale, with nearly everything I want, no HOA. About $7K above my price range, though, and it also has those sliding glass doors giving onto the deck -- this time in the living room. I hate that look.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:54 PM (wzUl9)

We bought a house like that, first thing we did was yank it out and replace it with a set of French doors, same size. Completely different look.

Also we have a nice looking back yard, but in the family room facing it, the walls were blank except for that door. So we knocked big holes in the walls and put in more French doors (these don’t open, no reason) on either side of the main door. Now that room has a mostly glass view of the entire back yard from almost any point in it.

We like changing any houses we owned.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:10 PM (nuNhM)

52 Thought to get bees wax for my reproduction 1860 Colt but found its a bit expensive

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:14 PM (Ia/+0)

53 Went through a candle making phase back in the 70's. I vaguely recall my kid sister getting paraffin that we'd melt and add color (maybe crayons?). Used empty egg cartons for molds.

One technique that was kind of cool was to pour the candle wax about 1/3 of the way into an empty quart milk carton, add an ice cube, pour to cover, and add another cube on the opposite side of the first, and fill to the top.

The wax would congeal around the ice, creating interesting shaped voids in the candle once the ice melted. Then as the candle burned, you could watch the wax pour from these openings and course down the side of the candle. We were easy to entertain back then...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 06:14 PM (nbLIj)

54 Dammit. I am getting real sleepy. Should go outside and get some fresh air before I doze off in this chair.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 06:14 PM (1z8ji)

55 Bulg if you are not there, aren't you late?

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:15 PM (Ia/+0)

56 Candle candle burning bright
In the window sill at night
Soon the curtain catches fire
Never was a fate so dire

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 06:17 PM (LmPA0)

57
Back in colonial times, candles were for the wealthy. Regular people used a "taper," a wick in a container of tallow.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2026 06:18 PM (HLgI3)

58 My daughters and I have made candies in vintage tea cups, they turned out really pretty! I should do that again.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (p4NUW)


I use old wine glasses!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:20 PM (+YlH3)

59 And there's a nice 2BR/2BA place also for sale, with nearly everything I want, no HOA. About $7K above my price range, though, and it also has those sliding glass doors giving onto the deck -- this time in the living room. I hate that look.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026
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We bought a house like that, first thing we did was yank it out and replace it with a set of French doors, same size. Completely different look. . . .

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026


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Good idea, TS. Now can you get the seller to come down on the price?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:21 PM (wzUl9)

60 58 My daughters and I have made candies in vintage tea cups, they turned out really pretty! I should do that again.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:59 PM (p4NUW)

I use old wine glasses!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026

That sounds fun!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 06:22 PM (OoFl2)

61 Oh, Tom Servo, about those French doors: Will they work in a climate with winter? I mean, do they close tightly and keep out drafts?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (wzUl9)

62 Back in the early 70's my folks took us to Colonial Williamsburg for an extended stay. We had tours of much of the "back room" stuff including some hands on experiences with animals, farming, preparing food and making various sundries... including candles from scratch.

It was pretty cool. There was fireworks too. Old school type.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (jehhT)

63 I use old wine glasses!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:20 PM (+YlH3)
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Aren't they full of wine?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (GNqmQ)

64 Aren't they full of wine?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (GNqmQ)


No...the candle maker is though!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:24 PM (+YlH3)

65 I can't smell the candles any more.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (Cqx++)

Ok, what did you do to get barred from Yankee Candle?

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 06:25 PM (nbLIj)

66 No...the candle maker is though!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2026 06:24 PM (+YlH3)
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Well if you have worn out a wine glass I guess you know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 06:25 PM (GNqmQ)

67 I was surprised to learn that commercially made candles in towns and cities in the 1800s and earlier were a significant expense. A well lit house was a sign of wealth and hospitality called for enough candles available for guests even in modest homes. People learned to trim and shape the wick and used reflective surfaces to get the most light.

I imagine that on a frontier there might be candle making gatherings. Materials, like beeswax or tallow, for candles wouldn't be available all the time so supplies to get through the season might be made once or twice a year. Probably similar to groups making maple syrup or butchering hogs or even quilting bees. Make a chore a social event.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 06:27 PM (yTvNw)

68 JTB, I was going to compare the candle-making gatherings you mentioned to a quilting bee, but I see you already did!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:29 PM (wzUl9)

69 My propane lantern puts out 165 candlepower. Does that count? Comes in handy when those nasty storms roll in and take out the grid. I don't craft them, but it's always a good idea to have some candles on-hand.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 06:33 PM (fkjGs)

70 All, CBD is a Fed. Be careful what you say around him.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:34 PM (77rzZ)

71 Wolfus, there's another aspect to sliding doors vs. French doors that you might consider. French doors swing into the room and in terms of where you place furniture, the room becomes narrower. We had French doors and after a few years switched them to sliding. Of course, Pella windows are practically works of art not matter what size and depth.

Also didn't you mention that the shades are between glass? Very useful with cats. That's the first thing that visitors with cats notice about our windows.

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 06:35 PM (iIAkP)

72 Did the ladies on the Western Frontier have shooting bees?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:40 PM (77rzZ)

73 Also didn't you mention that the shades are between glass? Very useful with cats. That's the first thing that visitors with cats notice about our windows.
Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026


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That was the place near the affordable housing development. This 2BR/2BA place, I don't know.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:40 PM (wzUl9)

74 Hey Bulg!

Hope you enjoyed yourself at the NoVaMoMee.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 06:41 PM (ZHOnm)

75 >>>All, CBD is a Fed. Be careful what you say around him.

Posted by: Bulg

>This is blog, what are people saying?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 06:41 PM (fkjGs)

76 Did the ladies on the Western Frontier have shooting bees?
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026


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Those were known as Indian attacks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:42 PM (wzUl9)

77 Quilting bees are still a thing, locally. Usually referred to as a "stitch & b!tch" LOL.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 06:44 PM (rdVOm)

78 74 SMH, I did, thanks. Thank you for recommending that I attend.

God bless you, dear lady.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:44 PM (77rzZ)

79 My neighbor gifted me with a citronella plant when Casa Sin Problemas landed in Sarasota. I do find rubbing the leaves on my feet and ankles provides sufficient protection most evenings..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 06:44 PM (nbLIj)

80 I don't make candles. I do listen to music. So: candle music.

Light:
https://youtu.be/6A8QwNLXSYY

Darkness:
https://youtu.be/688AIr6hfOE

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 06:46 PM (VHUov)

81 Now I’ve got to make it to Texas this fall.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:48 PM (77rzZ)

82 I have a collection of candles, most of them gifts including two boxes of kosher tealights preppers
Gave me when they moved. I use them in the winter mostly.

I made two cooking oil candles last year in jars. I used part of one when the power went out. Gave off a good amount of heat if not light.

My current hobby is housecleaning. Dad gave me another box of items they kept after they sold their snowbird home. I have been testing their items against what I have. I had to laugh that I bought a tablecloth (rather drab) for my table and Mom had three pretty ones of the perfect size.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 06:49 PM (ysTZR)

83

Put... the candle... back!

Posted by: Dr. Frederick Frankenstein at June 20, 2026 06:50 PM (Cqx++)

84 Years ago I was a bridesmaid in the wedding of a friend who got married the day after Christmas. Instead of flowers, we bridesmaids carried candles. It was beautiful.

Did I mention that the bride's sister, who was also in the wedding party, and I were pregnant and experiencing occasional dizzy spells in those pregnancies?

Fortunately, we both were fine that day. :-)

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 06:51 PM (XqvXS)

85 78 Dear Lady, I meant.

Based on the rule that you’re supposed to capitalize the addresse that is being addressed in what would otherwise be the vocative case.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:53 PM (77rzZ)

86 Now I’ve got to make it to Texas this fall.
Posted by: Bulg

Excellent plan!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 06:53 PM (B0dAE)

87
61 Oh, Tom Servo, about those French doors: Will they work in a climate with winter? I mean, do they close tightly and keep out drafts?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:23 PM (wzUl9)

That’s probably a reason they’re far more common in the South than in more northern climes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (nuNhM)

88 Wolfus, there's another aspect to sliding doors vs. French doors that you might consider. French doors swing into the room and in terms of where you place furniture, the room becomes narrower. We had French doors and after a few years switched them to sliding. Of course, Pella windows are practically works of art not matter what size and depth.
Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 06:35 PM

That is one do the reasons I didn't replace the sliding glass door in my house with a glass door. (Not enough room for two doors, either.) I got a Pella custom slider with the screen on the inside and a key. Comes in handy when unloading groceries.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (ysTZR)

89 86 RMBS has so ordered me. And he’s got his mom to back him up.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (77rzZ)

90 I've seen historical accounts that candles on the frontier were valuable items beyond the light they provided. They could provide a steady flame to get a fire going and even a stub, in a tiny enclosed space, could raise the temperature enough to survive frigid conditions. The person might not be comfortable but they would be alive. There were small tin or wooden boxes to hold the stubs in a trapper or hunter's pouch.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 06:55 PM (yTvNw)

91 Years ago I was a bridesmaid in the wedding of a friend who got married the day after Christmas. Instead of flowers, we bridesmaids carried candles. It was beautiful.

Did I mention that the bride's sister, who was also in the wedding party, and I were pregnant and experiencing occasional dizzy spells in those pregnancies?

Fortunately, we both were fine that day. :-)
Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026


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A number of years ago I attended a Santa Lucia (or St. Lucia) service at the local Norwegian Seamen's Church. The lady leading it, a local singer of Norwegian ancestry, carried a candle, and the entire church interior was lit that way. Beautiful.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:57 PM (wzUl9)

92
91 Sounds lovely, Wolfus.

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 06:58 PM (XqvXS)

93
That’s probably a reason they’re far more common in the South than in more northern climes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026


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Nearly every apartment, condo, or house I've ever seen or visited in the South has those sliding doors. I'm trying to flee reminders of these long hot summers, and a slider door is not welcome.

My current place does not have such a door, for which I'm thankful.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:59 PM (wzUl9)

94 The Broccoli FART Candle is my all-time favorite......

Brings back memories of those times the FART was a little wet during an Oval Office Meetings with foreign leaders....

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 20, 2026 07:00 PM (rvNIn)

95 If you ever find yourself anywhere South Deerfield, MA around the holidays, throw Yankee Candle HQ Store on your intinerary. I always enjoyed the way they decorate. Each room holding candles reflects the scents in that room, and up near the ceiling is a Toy railroad track that goes throughout the entire store. They cut tunnels into the drywall and did a really great job with the display.

And, there's another reason to visit the HQ store in person that you wouldn't know about unless you stopped in regularly. They put their experimental candles out for purchase just to get an idea of interest. And some of them are absolutely bizarre. I still have a "Apple Maple Bacon Wrapped Smoked Brisket" candle that only comes out on special occassions when I want to torment my black lab.

Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2026 07:00 PM (dIske)

96 91 Sounds lovely, Wolfus.
Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026


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The singer was and is a one-woman band, playing several instruments (with hands and feet!), and sings beautifully. Theresa Andersson.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:01 PM (wzUl9)

97 A number of years ago I attended a Santa Lucia (or St. Lucia) service at the local Norwegian Seamen's Church. The lady leading it, a local singer of Norwegian ancestry, carried a candle, and the entire church interior was lit that way. Beautiful.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

We attended a Tenebrae Mass at Holy Cross Church in Marine City. It really made us appreciate how our ancestors might have felt with the vast shadowy space lit with so few candles.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:03 PM (ysTZR)

98
93
That’s probably a reason they’re far more common in the South than in more northern climes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026

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Nearly every apartment, condo, or house I've ever seen or visited in the South has those sliding doors. I'm trying to flee reminders of these long hot summers, and a slider door is not welcome.

My current place does not have such a door, for which I'm thankful.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:59 PM

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My house in San Diego County is loaded with doors like that. My only real concern is that they facilitate burglary. That hasn't happened yet, but the State keeps heading south, so who knows.Other than that, they're fine.

I suppose a determined burglar could hammer their way in, regardless.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2026 07:05 PM (HLgI3)

99 still have a "Apple Maple Bacon Wrapped Smoked Brisket" candle that only comes out on special occassions when I want to torment my black lab.
Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2026 07:00 PM

That is hilarious! I wonder if the creators try to outdo each other with weirdness.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:06 PM (ysTZR)

100 I suppose a determined burglar could hammer their way in, regardless.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug


Locks keep honest people honest.

They don't do much to dissuade the dishonest ones.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 07:07 PM (VHUov)

101 We attended a Tenebrae Mass at Holy Cross Church in Marine City. It really made us appreciate how our ancestors might have felt with the vast shadowy space lit with so few candles.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026


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"This ae nighte, this ae nighte,
(Refrain —Every nighte and alle,
Fire and fleet and candle-lighte,
(Refrain And Christe receive thy saule."

(Also given as "fire and sleet and candlelight.")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:07 PM (wzUl9)

102 Theresa Andersson. I hadn't heard of her, but looked her up on YT just now. Good stuff -- thanks!

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 07:08 PM (XqvXS)

103 And the colon followed by the close-paren strikes again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:08 PM (wzUl9)

104 Theresa Andersson. I hadn't heard of her, but looked her up on YT just now. Good stuff -- thanks!
Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026


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Her bio on Wiki says she lives in Shreveport now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:09 PM (wzUl9)

105 103 And the colon followed by the close-paren strikes again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:08 PM
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Managing gray box punctuation should be a hobby...

Posted by: TRex - parenthetical dino at June 20, 2026 07:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 My childhood was made quite exciting with my parents' hobby of candlemaking. Specifically, a way of making a kind of candle shroud where you use a special mold, concentric cylinders. The space between the cylinders is filled with icecubes (this becomes important later) and then the hot wax is poured in. The heat eventually melts the ice but the ice cools the wax enough to make interesting holes and patterns before melting. Then the hollow shroud thing is used like a lampshade for other, smaller, uglier candles. However. One of these ice-cube candles got stuck and wouldn't come out of the special mold so My Father The Engineer got out a butane torch to help.
It exploded. Red wax went EVERYWHERE in the kitchen. When we remodeled years later we found red wax in the strangest places. Nobody got injured, fortunately ... but it was exciting!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 20, 2026 07:10 PM (PHjsi)

107 We have a cache of candles for power outages. My wife selected a couple dozen based on their construction. "Long burning."

No clue what it means. Type of wax?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 07:11 PM (jehhT)

108 We use to make candles while at beach, wet sand a bit, depress inwhat shape you want and pore in wax. My dad used a Camp stove to heat it up.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:14 PM (Ia/+0)

109 107 We have a cache of candles for power outages. My wife selected a couple dozen based on their construction. "Long burning."

No clue what it means. Type of wax?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 07:11 PM
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Funny you mention that. I went down that rabbit hole doing research for the thread and the closest I could figure was people cheated by turning a wax candle into an oil lamp. That may or may not be the answer. I spent too long trying to figure it out.

Posted by: TRex - lamp lighter dino at June 20, 2026 07:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

110 Nobody got injured, fortunately ... but it was exciting!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 20, 2026 07:10 PM
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This should go on a t-shirt or bumper sticker.

Posted by: TRex - merch seller dino at June 20, 2026 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

111 [Deleted due to non-hobbying content. - TRex]

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 20, 2026 07:18 PM (xNKY/)

112 Nobody got injured, fortunately ... but it was exciting!
Posted by: Sabrina Chase

This should go on a t-shirt or bumper sticker.
Posted by: TRex - merch seller dino


That which does not kill you gives you neat stories to post on the HQ.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 07:19 PM (VHUov)

113 Wolfus, run and don't look back at that first place.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026 07:19 PM (1Ff7Z)

114 Funny you mention that. I went down that rabbit hole doing research for the thread and the closest I could figure was people cheated by turning a wax candle into an oil lamp. That may or may not be the answer. I spent too long trying to figure it out.
Posted by: TRex - lamp lighter dino at June 20, 2026 07:14

I think "long-burning" have smaller wicks and denser wax.

What you're describing is the "easy" way to make an emergency candle: just shove a regular taper into a metal container of Crisco shortening.

I made mine with beeswax wicks and poured warm shortening into the jars.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:21 PM (ysTZR)

115 Power outage doesn't happen often, but having candles and oil lamps around is helpful when it does

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:21 PM (Ia/+0)

116 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here. New theme next week.

You're welcome to hang out here for a while this evening but don't forget to stop by Club ONT later.

Posted by: TRex - crisco-enabled dino at June 20, 2026 07:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

117 I pretty much all over the map right now with hobbies, from 3D printing to serious programming, to painting and drawing to and playing the piano.

And I'm not even retired-retired yet.

Just think I'll have more time to do more things.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 07:23 PM (XV/Pl)

118 Wolfus, run and don't look back at that first place.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 20, 2026


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It's a shame, but I think you're right. Its location is probably why the price was so low.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:24 PM (wzUl9)

119 I suspect my father may have been related to Forklift Driver Klaus. As in, many, many safety videos of what NOT to do could be made from his adventures. I had to undergo safety training for work on the Proper Operation of Ladders recently, and it was like a checklist of all the dangerous things he did. "Yep, he did that, and that, and yet he lived!" Fell off the roof a lot too. Good thing he had sturdy bones and Mom liked to plant impact-absorbing shrubs....

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 20, 2026 07:26 PM (PHjsi)

120 Like others here, we keep a stash of beeswax candles for emergencies. Yeah, we have battery powered lanterns and they work well. But for simple illumination, a single candle can light a room enough to function or avoid tripping over furniture. A night's worth of light, no fumes, no dead batteries, and a pleasant ambiance.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 07:27 PM (yTvNw)

121 Thanks for the thread, TRex

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:28 PM (ysTZR)

122 111 [Deleted due to non-hobbying content. - TRex]
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 20, 2026 07:18 PM (xNKY/)

Thanx T-Rex................ No loss and saved me 10 IQ points from not reading the comment..

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 20, 2026 07:29 PM (Es4vZ)

123 I was reading about the candle lighting for Shabbat. Fascinating

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 07:31 PM (afJtY)

124
117 Yay for playing the piano! I'm looking forward to more time for that when I retire at the end of summer.

I've always loved playing a number of preludes and fugues from The Well-Tempered Clavier, Volume I, but never acquired Volume II. That's going to be my next music purchase and one of the first retirement projects I plan, exploring WTC Book II.

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at June 20, 2026 07:32 PM (XqvXS)

125 121 Thanks for the thread, TRex

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 07:28 PM
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You're welcome! Thanks for being here.

Posted by: TRex - not naughty dino at June 20, 2026 07:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

126 (Refrain)

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 07:39 PM (DZ9Lv)

127 (Refrain

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 07:40 PM (DZ9Lv)

128 Quick shout out to all the Hordelings that attended the Virginia MoMe. I can now confirm that some of you exist in real life. Thank you for making the trip. Great to spend quality time on a lovely day with the AoS family.
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That's next Saturday, right?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 07:41 PM (ei1sX)

129 Kiss my ass

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 07:41 PM (DZ9Lv)

130 Weasel, I need an after action report.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 07:42 PM (afJtY)

131 movie nood.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 07:52 PM (B0dAE)

132 Nearly every apartment, condo, or house I've ever seen or visited in the South has those sliding doors. I'm trying to flee reminders of these long hot summers, and a slider door is not welcome.

My current place does not have such a door, for which I'm thankful.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:59 PM (wzUl9)


You can replace the patio door with a single glass panel door, and a non-opening glass door as well, you will have most of the same light and just one door to worry about. They doo make double pane french type doors rated for outdoors, and they are as good as any door at keeping the cold out.
You could just put in a single door and a window next to it, and frame in the rest. The hard part is putting IN a door, not taking one out.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 07:55 PM (rbvCR)

133 I don't care for movies. The last movie I went to was Team America, if you can call that a movie. I enjoyed it very much.

Posted by: Ronster at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (XKmOA)

134 I don't care for movies. The last movie I went to was Team America, if you can call that a movie. I enjoyed it very much.
Posted by: Ronster
*****
I look forward to your comment every Saturday!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at June 20, 2026 08:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

135 The Grateful. You are very kind.

Posted by: Ronster at June 20, 2026 08:24 PM (XKmOA)

136 117, 124:

Bravo for music making! I returned to playing the trumpet after a 55+ year layoff. Now 3 years into my comeback, I'm starting to get the chops back, still short on endurance and range. Oh well. I'm old.

Got into it because I played a recording of my playing in high school for my grandson. Next thing I know, he'd signed up for middle school band to play . . . the trumpet. So I bought myself a new horn. He's now 3 years in as well, and we get together several times a month to play together -- his band music, my classical and pop pieces.

First time in my life I have a hobby. Very rewarding, and even my neighbors have been nothing but complimentary. :-)

Posted by: Fritz at June 20, 2026 09:10 PM (J7jo9)

137 I don't care for movies. The last movie I went to was Team America, if you can call that a movie. I enjoyed it very much.
Posted by: Ronster at June 20, 2026 08:08 PM (XKmOA)

I am another non-fan of movies. If I get dragged out to a movie, I might enjoy it, but they simply aren't something I want to seek out for myself. I will hang out here until the ONT blossoms.

Got the muffler and tailpipe job done on the Buick. It looks good from underneath. One little job remains: hang the other tailpipe on the left side on some hangers so it looks like the car has dual exhaust (it doesn't), Owner asked if I could do that, so I will.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:01 PM (1z8ji)

138 Candles? Is this a prepping thread?
How about Prepping as a Hobby?
We enjoy it and pray we won't need it.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 20, 2026 10:59 PM (Skc+N)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, June 20

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Courtesy Terry Glenn


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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Cat Years

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What would qualify a spider as a pet for you?


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What about a reptile?

Meet The PetMorons

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I am a lurker but this brought into the sunlight.  This is Gideon, a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, from 2018 when he was 6 months until now.  Two weeks ago, I let him out for his morning duty. I heard him barking and looked up and saw him barking at a full grown male black bear up a tree.  I had to grab him, and he wasn't happy about that, and back away.

lurker MG

Wow! Gideon is charming! And he was super-cute at six months.

Doesn't really look like a bear hunter. Glad you got him away from the bear.

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We'll title this "Transgression." This is the look my brother got from Sammy when he had the nerve to try to brush the belly. Note claws. -

Miley

In that photo, Sammy looks a lot like the black kitten among the four brought to our house by their mother not long ago. He can be held for a few seconds, but then usually gives "that look" and shows the claws.

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Hi K.T.

I had to say goodbye to Emma last week. She was the last of a long continuous line of Scotties we had beginning in 1975. I introduced Emma on AOS Pet Thread back in March 2018. This is her last Christmas picture -- She was such a good girl.

Bill in FL

Oh, how heartbreaking to lose sweet, lovely Emma. She looks so happy in her Christmas picture.

Keep in touch.


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PetMoron Adjacent Animals
Encountered by Members of The Horde

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Hello K.T., 
The pictures of all the deer in this week's Pet Thread reminded me of a pic I took some days ago.  In the early morning we looked out the front window and there was Mama deer with a newborn.  When we first saw them the doe was laying down with the fawn standing next to her.  She got up and they both slowly walked away.  

Thanks for the Pet Thread.  Always a good read.  

George V.

I like that photo a lot! And the story even more Thanks for sending it in.

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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, June 13

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 03:00 PM




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1 WTF a cat with a black dildo?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:32 PM (Kt19C)

2 That is a cat brush, Commissar!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:33 PM (w6EFb)

3 Phew

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:34 PM (Kt19C)

4 Looks like kitty might have an injury so the arm is shielded so they don't have to put on the Cone Of Shame

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 03:34 PM (X/a22)

5 Oh yeah I see the brush now

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 03:35 PM (X/a22)

6 Greetings from Sakuraza. A year ago, she was living in the streets.

https://is.gd/ZU2Za3

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026 03:35 PM (f0sNM)

7 Sammy has a rather long face. It gives him a serious expression. I zoomed into that photo when my brother emailed it. So stern!

He was enjoying his back being brushed, then relaxed and showed his belly. Kevin didn't understand that was not an invitation, it was just happiness. So funny, because after the failed belly-brushing, he wouldn't allow Kevin to touch the brush.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:36 PM (w6EFb)

8 Happy Caturday everyone
And Doggies too

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 03:39 PM (Ia/+0)

9 Hey guys,

Update on our cats.

https://tinyurl.com/dg65258

Going to read thread thoroughly now.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 03:44 PM (2F0/Y)

10 Good view of his snaggle ears. He was roughed up pretty bad, but the scabs on his head are gone now. He's very sweet but not shy about setting boundaries. I typically sit on the back porch and he'll jump onto the table and meow hello, then rub his head against me. This is the cat that sent both me and Publius to the urgent care with bites last summer.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:44 PM (w6EFb)

11 Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026 03:35 PM

She certainly doesn't look like a street cat now!

Posted by: KT at June 20, 2026 03:45 PM (rdeQO)

12 Meow...

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at June 20, 2026 03:48 PM (sAmhv)

13 Awww, all the pet morons are cute.

Bill in FL I am sorry for the loss of your Emma. She was beautiful.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 03:48 PM (2F0/Y)

14 Great photos
Red wasp got me again while putting fuel in the tractor. Can’t imagine what snake venom feels like.

Posted by: Billythesquid at June 20, 2026 03:48 PM (nEiEH)

15 A chameleon might have been more successful at catching flies than my two cats when they were young.
Now crickets even in older age they were deadly.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 03:50 PM (Ia/+0)

16 Afternoon, pet folken!

Cloudy and thunder-grumbling here. Thunder doesn't bother the cats -- not like the arrival of strangers or the roar of the vacuum cleaner.

A King Charles Spaniel -- I expect the breed is named for the second Charles of England? Though when I look it up, I see that the separate breed, the Cavalier King Charles, was developed by John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough. He was the husband of Queen Anne's great confidant (and probably manipulator), Sarah (Jennings) Churchill. In any case, Gideon is a beauty. That chestnut color against the pur white is striking.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 03:50 PM (wzUl9)

17 RIP Emma.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:50 PM (w6EFb)

18 PETZZZ

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 03:53 PM (tcsrY)

19 Sakuraza looks quite fluffy and content now!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:53 PM (w6EFb)

20 No, I can't imagine myself raising even a colorful spider as a pet. And most reptiles don't interest me. The chameleon in the video provides a valuable service for his human, though -- much as black Stirling cat does when he spots wasps. His first summer I had several that got in here somehow. I learned to look where he was looking when he would develop that fixed, "I want to kill something") stare.

Naturally I didn't want him to try to kill the thing and maybe get stung. I'd flatten the wasp with a magazine, then give him a kitty treat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 03:54 PM (wzUl9)

21 Thanks for another great pet thread, KT. Lots of good pictures that go along with good memories, especially of those who have crossed the rainbow bridge. And I loved the spider mating dance video.

Posted by: Retired, thank God at June 20, 2026 03:54 PM (va0Yo)

22 My remaining cats like being scratched on their bellies. They'll even come over to me and flop down on the carpet with their bellies to me...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 03:56 PM (l3cgK)

23 Greetings from Sakuraza. A year ago, she was living in the streets.

https://is.gd/ZU2Za3
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026


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Another beauty!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 03:56 PM (wzUl9)

24 Nice looking spider. I wouldn't even mess with it unless it camped out in my bedroom and tried to extract nutrients from the back of my neck.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 03:59 PM (fkjGs)

25 Della came outside this morning and actually caught a bird and ate it, then puked. I disapprove of the bird hunting in general, but appreciate that she was bold enough to do it. I guess the buspirone helped with her reticence in dealing with Bunny and Sammy outside.

It has not, however, helped with her peeing in stupid places, like bathmats. I have to toss all of the bathmats and come up with something rubber to replace them. Maybe gel mats like for the kitchen, I don't know.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:01 PM (w6EFb)

26 Joyenz, I've done some math on the use of Feline Pine litter pellets vs. Walmart's Special Kitty clay jug. (No, this is not *real* math, but economics.) The 20-lb. bag of FP costs $12, and lasts for about three litter pan changes, at around 7-9 days each. Thus, about $4 per pan change.

The SK clay litter is 14 lbs., and costs $7; and I get only one litter filling out of it. The FP runs, then, a bit less than half the cost of the clay litter per pan change. The Pine also seems lighter in weight when it's turned into sawdust at the end of a 7-9 day period, so it's less trouble to lug out to the dumpster.

Winning!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:02 PM (wzUl9)

27 Sammy just arrived and drooled into my coffee cup. Ugh.

He's a big-time drooler.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:04 PM (w6EFb)

28 Time for the porkchop seasoning ritual.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 04:05 PM (LHPAg)

29 I wonder if we'll get a picture or two of Ace's crows.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 04:07 PM (qx7Zg)

30 Oops -- I meant to say "The FP runs, then, a bit more than half the cost of the clay litter per pan change." If you extend the comparison over three weeks, you get $12 for Feline Pine, and $21 for Walmart's clay litter.

Which is getting hard to find in the small 14 lb. jug. At some stores, so is the Feline Pine.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:08 PM (wzUl9)

31 29 He really needs to send KT a photo.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:08 PM (w6EFb)

32 Red wasp got me again
Always have a small child to dab jam on

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 04:08 PM (Kt19C)

33 The dancing spiders are amazing.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2026 04:09 PM (CHHv1)

34 And I loved the spider mating dance video.
Posted by: Retired, thank God


"Dude, could you be more gay?" - male black widow, chilling at the bar

"At least I'll be alive tomorrow morning." - male maratus, dancing fabulously

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 04:09 PM (VHUov)

35 I've moved Publius' ficus out of the bathroom and onto the back porch. Maybe a put a fourth little box there for Della.

Purry is a litter box asshole. He kicks it around like crazy and breaks up the poop into little pieces, and I think it offends Della.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:10 PM (w6EFb)

36 ice looking spider. I wouldn't even mess with it unless it camped out in my bedroom and tried to extract nutrients from the back of my neck.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026


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My mother, who grew up on a farm, always told me to leave spiders alone, as "They eat other things you don't want in your house." So I still leave them be.

Spiders on my car, however, I don't want getting inside it. (I've had it happen on other cars. You haven't lived until you've had a big pale spider swing down in front of your face while you're driving.) If I can brush the spider off the car without killing it, I will, but if not, c'est la vie.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:11 PM (wzUl9)

37 Litter box, not little box.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:18 PM (w6EFb)

38 You haven't lived until you've had a big bee swing down in front of your face in a motorcycle helmet while you're driving.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 04:19 PM (Kt19C)

39 Winning!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:02 PM (wzUl9)

Great to hear. We love it and makes the house smell nice. We won't use anything else again. With the cats we have, we buy the 40lb bag.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:20 PM (2F0/Y)

40 Stirling is dozing in his favorite spot on the floor, at the far end of the couch. I don't know where his little sister Dagny is; probably in her sauna, the bedroom window.

He tried to bully her the other day, and I actually heard her growl at him. I'd never heard her growl before -- and I've never heard him do it at all. I keep telling her, "Swat him across the nose; he'll leave you alone." But she does not have his reach, I guess.

He thinks she's fun to play with and chase; I somehow think she doesn't like him that much. I never see them sleeping together or grooming each other, not recently anyway. They did sleep together, with me, during the cold times this past winter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:21 PM (wzUl9)

41 Great to hear. We love it and makes the house smell nice. We won't use anything else again. With the cats we have, we buy the 40lb bag.
Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026


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I did buy the 40 lb. bag at first, but now the stores near me, if they have the stuff in stock, offer only the 20. If I see a 40, I'll grab it.

The FP does provide a better scent. The local utility guys were here Monday installing a new thermostat and other items, and were surprised that I had cats. "It doesn't smell!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:23 PM (wzUl9)

42 Speaking of animals: The film version (1945?) of Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings' novel The Yearling with Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman, is on Movies! this evening at 7 Central. I've never read it, and thought the title animal was a colt, but apparently it's a fawn.

The film is in color, so even Miss Linda should enjoy it. She dislikes B & W films. It depends, I suppose, on what you grew up with. At home we only had a B & W TV. Didn't get my first color set until 1984.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:30 PM (wzUl9)

43 Not sure what's going on here, but the number of people killed by dogs seems to have soared. Too many links to list, but search "killed by dogs NC"

Posted by: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? at June 20, 2026 04:32 PM (XeU6L)

44 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:23 PM (wzUl9)

We order the 40lb from Walmart online. My sister works at Walmart, so she gets a 10% discount and Walmart+ for free, so it works really well for us financially.

We have never found the 40lb in-store. For in-store purchase, we would have to drive an hour down to the closest Petsmart.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:32 PM (2F0/Y)

45 You haven't lived until you've had a big bee swing down in front of your face in a motorcycle helmet while you're driving.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats
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This leads to a very abrupt, barely controlled stop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2026 04:36 PM (XeU6L)

46 Afternoon, All. Back from the MoMe.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:38 PM (77rzZ)

47 1 CBD = Cat’s Black Dildo

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

48 We have never found the 40lb in-store. For in-store purchase [of Feline Pine], we would have to drive an hour down to the closest Petsmart.
Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026


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And they probably charge 50% more at Petsmart than at Walmart.

Once I move and get settled, I may buy it online at WM. My experience with WM delivery is not great, though it could be the kind of people they hire to run deliveries here.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:43 PM (wzUl9)

49 47 LOL!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:44 PM (w6EFb)

50 The thunder continues to roll. (Apologies to the writer of Garth Brooks' early song.) Good thing I did not wash the car this am.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:46 PM (wzUl9)

51
Not gonna click that "pet" spider. Watching a spider move is worse than watching one parked.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 04:47 PM (XJ22o)

52 You haven't lived until you've had a big bee swing down in front of your face in a motorcycle helmet while you're driving.

I once inadvertently rode into a swarm of cicadas doing 60 mph. That was...uh...interesting.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 20, 2026 04:47 PM (ceJ0R)

53 Bugs generally don't make good pets. Sorry to go off-topic.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 20, 2026 04:54 PM (ceJ0R)

54 Afternoon, All. Back from the MoMe.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:38 PM (77rzZ)

Hey Bulg!

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:55 PM (2F0/Y)

55 Hey, Joyenz! How art thou?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:56 PM (77rzZ)

56 Once I move and get settled, I may buy it online at WM. My experience with WM delivery is not great, though it could be the kind of people they hire to run deliveries here.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 04:43 PM (wzUl9)

My sister works in the OGP department (online shopping). We have had no issues with the delivery people. I've noticed a lot of people complain about doordash etc in other cities and states, but we have never experiences those issues where we live.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:58 PM (2F0/Y)

57 Hey, Joyenz! How art thou?
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 04:56 PM (77rzZ)

Doing alright, how about you? How's the job going?

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 04:59 PM (2F0/Y)

58 Horse bedding pellets work well for cat litter and much cheaper than feline pine.

Posted by: argie at June 20, 2026 04:59 PM (6lIeU)

59 57 Joyenz, my sister died on Sunday. I was about to forswear the MoMe (too soon, I thought), but the Horde talked me out of it, and I’m glad they did. It did me a lot of good.

Since it’s summer, the tutoring biz has kinda slacked off. Hopefully, it will pick up again come late summer.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:04 PM (77rzZ)

60 "She certainly doesn't look like a street cat now!"

But she is still not quite used to the idea that she has safety and food now.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026 05:04 PM (f0sNM)

61 58 Horse bedding pellets work well for cat litter and much cheaper than feline pine.
Posted by: argie at June 20, 2026


***
I guess you'd buy those at Tractor Supply or any of the farm and feed places?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:05 PM (wzUl9)

62 Time I got cleaned up a little before dinner. I'll stop back in for the Hobby Thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:06 PM (wzUl9)

63 Black cats blacks what you gonna do,
what you gonna do when they come for you?

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 05:08 PM (LHPAg)

64 Gideon barking at the black bear in the tree reminds me of Travels With Charley. Steinbeck describes Charley, an elderly standard poodle, as tender hearted toward a biscuit and wouldn't disturb an earnest caterpillar. Driving through Yellowstone Park every time they saw a bear Charley went crazy trying to get at the bear seeking victory in combat or death. There seems to be something between a small dog and a bear that outweighs the pooch a hundred to one.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:09 PM (yTvNw)

65 Posted by: argie at June 20, 2026 04:59 PM (6lIeU)

Have to be careful with just using any kind of pellet. What isn't toxic to a horse can be toxic to a cat. Oils etc need to be considered carefully.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 05:09 PM (2F0/Y)

66 Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:04 PM (77rzZ)

I'm sorry to hear about your sister. Sending hugs your way.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 20, 2026 05:11 PM (2F0/Y)

67 Complete strangers helped to save her dog's life. Sunny Skyz site;

https://tinyurl.com/5yccfe4y

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 05:11 PM (OYsYV)

68 Lucy the Fink sends snorty snotty greetings.

Vet appt Monday. I think she needs abx for her long term sinus issues. At least I hope they let me try. I’m not going to do the X-rays and ct scans I know they will try to sell me. I don’t spend that much on my own “healthcare (such that it is).

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 05:11 PM (A5RD0)

69 66 Thank you, Joyenz.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 05:12 PM (77rzZ)

70 That sign in the top picture is so funny and so true.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 05:14 PM (yTvNw)

71 HOBBY NOOD

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)

72 My daughter, who introduced me to cat ownership, uses lightweight litter. When I tried it, my marmalade boy sent it flying to the next room. So I use heavy gravel. No dust.

I was told 1 more litter box than number of cats. So I have 3, identical, bought at the same time. They both use the one in my bedroom 90% of the time to pee, the one in the laundry 90% of the time to poop, and the one in the garage, which is the most convenient, hardly at all. Anybody else find that kind of behavior?

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 05:32 PM (iIAkP)

73 Thunder bumpulations going on here, too. Mostly off to the South, so far. Wind coming from the North.

Sunshine one minute, showers and clouds the next.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 05:35 PM (1z8ji)

74 ((HUGS)). Bill in Florida. Emma was very beautiful.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 20, 2026 05:37 PM (CFj4+)

75 All the boys are cuddling on the bed. It’s adorable.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 05:38 PM (Wmg4n)

76 Awesome pets! And wildlife.

Cat got a hot breakfast yesterday-- I found *parts* on the patio doormat. Urk.

Then he got a dove last night. Lightning quick, he jumped down from deck and came back up with the bird. He proceeded to the doormat, just in view from where I sit at the computer. Not wanting to watch, I closed the drapes. Just *knew* there would be huge mess to clean...

No mess this morning. I figured there'd be feathers all over the deck and, um, leftovers on the mat again. Nope. Birdy either got away or he took it somewhere else to dine.

LOL. Critters. :shrug:

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 05:44 PM (rdVOm)

77 Wonderful moron pet pictures today, and I am so sorry about beautiful Emma. And my hostas are not happy about another deer entering the world.

Thanks KT!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2026 06:12 PM (Ha3no)

78 Just got back from my grandaughter's dance recital. That's my boy Gideon the bear hunter.

Posted by: EyeofSauron at June 20, 2026 07:33 PM (G6FGs)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, June 20

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My little garden has been pretty colorful and a delight to look at out the window on a 90 degree day. Here's a couple photos of my Tequila and lime Daylilies.

Didn't realize that each blossom actually only last for a day til Hrothgar mentioned it.
In one picture you can see the delicate pink hydrangeas. I was initially disappointed that they didn't get those big rounded flowers but grew to like how delicate they look.

Sharon(willow's apprentice)

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Daylilies and hydrangeas both come in different flower forms. The daylilies are spectacular, and the color of the hydrangeas looks nice with them.


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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

We have updates from Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar from May 15 and from more recently today.

May 15:

In some ways, plants are pretty uneventful. Most flowers on my plants have fallen off, and tiny little fruit are starting. Little baby quince fruit starting under the dying flower. The North Star cherry tree has always produced massive harvests, despite being fairly small and young still.

The side of my house is overgrown with grape and kiwi vines, so I put up some ghetto "trellising" to help if grow out more. We'll see how well it holds up. Last year we had quite a few grapes. . . but raccoons ate them all.

Okay, I lied. The Pawpaw tree is native, and always a little behind the other fruit trees, so it still has its weird, brownish bell-like flowers.

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They are so interesting.

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June update:

Lots of fruit and berries growing at the homestead, but with a move coming up, I haven't harvested like I usually do. Tons of mulberries and wild raspberries ready to pick, and finally a few pawpaw fruit on our young trees!

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The berries look great. Quince are coming along. The pawpaws have made fast progress since the blossoms last month!

We have just a few grape vines on the side of the house, but they produce a ridiculous amount of fruit. Problem is keeping the critters out long enough to let them fully ripen and harvest.

Saw a little turtle on the walking trail. Had a weird worm looking thing on the back of his shell...maybe a leech? Ewww.

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Any suggestions on keeping critters out of the grapes?

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Know what's on the back of that turtle?

Oh! I saw a mass of bright yellow mushrooms growing along a local path. Wife said they're "Golden Oyster", edible and invasive. I brought a backpack and hopped the fence on my next walk (chain-link fence to keep people away from the train tracks), and they were JUST out of reach. And, I pulled something trying to reach for them lol.

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Take care of yourself. Are you really moving?

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History - Some Special Trees


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Gardens of The Horde

Hello KT!

I have been meaning to send pictures of my patio efforts for some time now! Things are growing and blooming and the bees seem to be very happy. My sunflowers are getting tall and the flowers are starting to bud-soon

Bee balm is blooming:

The Spiderwort has really done well. I chose a sunny/shady spot:

Thanks as always for providing such a lovely spot on the internet!

Mrs. Leggy

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I can see why the bees would be happy and will be happier when your sunflowers bloom.


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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, June 13


I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 01:32 PM




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1 Thank you KT!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 01:39 PM (B0dAE)

2 Last house's neighbor put sheer green bags over each grape bunch to keep critters away, it seemed to work.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2026 01:41 PM (B0dAE)

3 70° and sunny in van nuys. Feels hotter.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 01:44 PM (Kt19C)

4 I am turning cabbages into sauerkraut this week. I planted a dozen, and they all turned out lovely. Based on this year's attempt I think I can get twice as many in next year. Homegrown cabbages taste better than the store bought ones for some reason.

I am just about to start digging potatoes, the vines have flowered and dropped, which indicates that I can dig some new potatoes. I wait until the vines die back to dig for the ones I am going to store for winter.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 01:45 PM (rbvCR)

5 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Only thing have accomplished is a bigger leaf pile that was over my scap metal pile

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 01:49 PM (Ia/+0)

6 Did I get Mrs. Leggy's photos fixed?

Posted by: KT at June 20, 2026 01:54 PM (rdeQO)

7 Admiral Ackbar, those photos could be from our yard. We must be is about the same zone.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 02:11 PM (vFG9F)

8 "in" about the same zone.

I'm almost done with the lawn. I had to take a break and eat lunch. It's only 85 out there but that humidity will choke you.

Posted by: fd at June 20, 2026 02:16 PM (vFG9F)

9 Yes you did! Thanks! I had a lot of trouble with the interwebs this week. I had more pictures but I kept getting error messages. I will send more next week.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at June 20, 2026 02:42 PM (dyL4B)

10 I love those spideworts! Beautiful deep color; I have some I transplanted from the woods around here into my yard, they do very well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 02:42 PM (jxNsH)

11 Vegetable patch is proceeding apace. I swapped some of my flourishing dill for some kale and spinach and made a terrific salad; the lady said she would make gnocchi with chicken stock and dill. Mmmm...

I'm finally seeing butterflies around the vegetable garden, which has many pollinator flowers. The perennial coneflowers are YUGE and luxurious. My butterfly weed at home is finally getting ready to bloom.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 02:42 PM (kpS4V)

12 7 Admiral Ackbar, those photos could be from our yard. We must be is about the same zone.
Posted by: fd

I live in central Iowa. For now...

Take care of yourself. Are you really moving?

I'll be starting a new job in Hawaii soon. We'll keep the Iowa house for the immediate future, and I'll just be in a small apartment to start. Should provide plenty of interesting new Garden Thread photo opportunities...

Posted by: Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar at June 20, 2026 02:48 PM (ycI94)

13 I enjoy seeing the Horde's gardening skillz because I have none of my own. I am trying 3 tomato plants this year. Yesterday I spotted the first wee green tomato! My goal this year is to have a few 'maters to share.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 02:49 PM (lOlUK)

14 The Netherlands are trouncing Sweden in eurofag kickball.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 20, 2026 02:50 PM (A5RD0)

15 It's been a frustrating week as I am still fighting a cold and had a lawn tractor delivered. It is still sitting in the container in the front yard. I need to put the seat on and the steering wheel shaft. It's more than I need but will help me with projects involving moving stuff and allow me to cut the grass.

Out of the trees I planted, the Asian pears are the slowest to grow. One never came out of dormancy. I pulled that and planted a pecan there. Garden wise, I can't buy the starts at the local store. They just don't do well. I do have a cold frame to put together so will make that a priority. I have one rose and some comfrey plants to plant. And I got seeds for a Homesteaders Kaleidiscopic Perennial Kale Grex fromThe Experimental Farm Network. I mentioned to someone on Solomon's group that I wanted to plant greens to reseed themselves and he suggested these. I think I still have variegated collard seed too. I have this idea f how to make it easier and moreproductive to garden but it's not there yet.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 20, 2026 02:52 PM (bkuEU)

16 flowers are a poppin' down here in south America! Rain is keeping things happy this year.

Posted by: DanMan at June 20, 2026 02:56 PM (8uzBS)

17 https://tinyurl.com/y9wdk47c

Not really a garden post, per se, but very Alaskan.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2026 02:57 PM (bl07w)

18 Is there a Meemaw tree?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 20, 2026 03:15 PM (cWLG3)

19 Oh boy the park!
I can kill some ducks!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:17 PM (Kt19C)

20 I just spent 3 hours in the yard and I haven't even started on the mowing. I was just going to chop kudzu along the fence, which is a half hour job at most, but I started working on a overgrown bush/tree that had been interfering with my mowing and kudzu chopping. I was horrified to realize how far it was growing over into the neighbor's yard. As I got deeper in I saw that one of the trunks is partially broken. Next thing I knew it had been 3 hours (I did come in for water breaks).

I think the whole thing needs to come down because it's been nothing but trouble. I recently bought a battery powered chainsaw (12 inch) for such a time as this, but I'm still working up the courage to try it.

But I think the neighbors and I - mostly they - have made progress in the War on Kudzu. Would you believe the previous owner of my house actually PLANTED the kudzu?

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:19 PM (lOlUK)

21 battery powered chainsaw (12 inch)

Bayonet.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 03:22 PM (Kt19C)

22 Beautiful gardens of teh Horde!

I never thought about it, but daylilies do only last for a day. That's why you need lots of blooms. My Shattered Glass daylily plant had only 2 blooms; maybe it will develop more over the years. They bloomed and died before I had a chance to capture their lemon yellow glory.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 03:29 PM (w6EFb)

23 ".... I recently bought a battery powered chainsaw (12 inch) for such a time as this, but I'm still working up the courage to try it.

But I think the neighbors and I - mostly they - have made progress in the War on Kudzu. Would you believe the previous owner of my house actually PLANTED the kudzu?
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:19 PM (lOlUK)"
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I felt trepidacious about firing up my Ryobi chain saw, loving all my digits and appendages right where they are, but after watching a YT video or two, I became a convert. Nay, an aficionado.

Buy a hockey mask and really freak out the neighbors.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 03:31 PM (kpS4V)

24 Cattle will eat kudzu.

Posted by: Case at June 20, 2026 03:32 PM (IY9No)

25 Happy Summer Solstice everyone!

AKA the longest day

Posted by: kallisto at June 20, 2026 03:39 PM (kD8Fh)

26 Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar at June 20, 2026 02:48 PM

Wow! Iowa to Hawaii is a move! And keeping the Iowa house, with its survival foods!

Posted by: KT at June 20, 2026 03:40 PM (rdeQO)

27 I felt trepidacious about firing up my Ryobi chain saw, loving all my digits and appendages right where they are, but after watching a YT video or two, I became a convert. Nay, an aficionado.

Buy a hockey mask and really freak out the neighbors.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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I have cool neighbors, they would get a kick out of it.

I need to Read the Manual and watch some vids. But I have learned how to use things like firearms and a weedwhacker so maybe I can do this too.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:43 PM (lOlUK)

28 Cattle will eat kudzu.
Posted by: Case
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I only have a 1/2 acre. Maybe I can rent a goat?

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 03:44 PM (lOlUK)

29 I love the spiderwort. None of mine has come back since the fence was removed, nor the bleeding heart nor any of the lilies.

While I was gone for a weekend, critters ate the peas to the dirt and chewed the tops of most of the surviving Jerusalem artichokes. Only one of the onions came up; no garlic. Someone said I planted the garlic too deep - the same someone who told me how deep to plant them.

On the bright side, the onion that came up is an "walking" onion that already has two offshoots at its top. And there are two Jerusalem artichokes poking up behind the rhubarb. They're too tall now for rabbits, although the squirrels might still dig them up.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 20, 2026 04:02 PM (ysTZR)

30 Good afternoon all.
Just back from the MoMe. We had a perfect day, clear, warm but nice breeze off the river. Lots of people out and about but we had a great area that let us move around but out of the way of others enjoying the day.
I bought another tomato and jalapeño plant. Everything doing so well I wish I had more room.
Have a great week.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2026 04:39 PM (kJmSS)

31 I don’t know how spiderworts got their name, but when I transplanted one, I saw that the rootball looked like some bizarre, giant tarantula. Never seen another plant with a root system like that! First time I saw it I thought “oh so THAT’S why you’re called a spiderwort!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 05:40 PM (nuNhM)

32 Whats on the back of that turtle are turtle leeches, which suck the turtles blood.

Posted by: Tony Litwin at June 21, 2026 07:13 AM (yW7Qk)

Father's Day Weekend, 2026

Happy Father's Day Weekend! Are you seeing or doing anything different from other Father's Day Weekends? Like maybe,

Remembering the Founding Fathers

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John Adams

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Abigail Adams

Statues: The People They Salute:

Abigail Adams wrote these words to her husband, John Adams, the day after the Battle of Bunker Hill having learned about the death of their dear friend Dr. Joseph Warren during the battle.

“The Day; perhaps the decisive Day is come on which the fate of America depends. My bursting Heart must find vent at my pen. I have just heard that our dear Friend Dr. Warren is no more but fell gloriously fighting for his Country— saying better to die honourably in the field than ignominiously hang upon the Gallows. Great is our Loss. He has distinguished himself in every engagement, by his courage and fortitude, by animating the Soldiers and leading them on by his own example.”- Abigail Adams (June 18, 1775)


I began to think about their ages on that day...Joseph Warren had recently turned 34, Abigail was 30 & John was 39. Somehow we think of the founding generation as elderly. . . most were not.

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Pictured is John Trumbull’s painting “The Death of General Warren at the Battle of Bunker's Hill, June 17, 1775.”

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Look familiar?

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Appreciating America

Everybody knows who Freddy is now, right?

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Who Is America's Homer? - Your choice?

And now we have a Museum of the Bible, with some special lectures for a special anniversary . . .


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We've discussed air conditioning. What about other Great American Inventors?


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Weekend

Week in Pictures, World Cup Edition

With an assist from the Babylon Bee:

So-Called 'World's Greatest Dad' Not Even In Top Five

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Music

Suggestion from last week:

34 American composer Samuel Barber and his Adagio for Strings.

Try to listen to that without getting emotional.

Posted by: banana Dream - I double dog dare you at June 13, 2026 12:03 PM

And here's the Washington Post March, because we need some Sousa, too.

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, June 13, Getting close to that big anniversary: What and whom do you appreciate?

Reminder - reading for the bathroom:


Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:00 AM




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1 WTF?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 19, 2026 01:57 PM (2YhKe)

2 NOW he's done it......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 19, 2026 01:57 PM (2YhKe)

3 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 11:17 AM (Ia/+0)

4 Juneteenth holiday and Father's Day on same weekend. Ironic racism I guess.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:17 AM (KC5Lt)

5 Idiots Out Walking Around

(I learned that from a prof from IA in college)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 11:18 AM (T6aVk)

6 Obama Gives Glowing Tribute to Clintons and Bushes, Barely Mentions Biden's at Presidential Library Grand Opening

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Wait. I thought George W. Chimpy McHitler Bush was the worst president ever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 11:19 AM (ndZc7)

7 Who Is America’s Homer?

If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have?


J. D. Salinger, man. The Catcher in the Rye changed my life.

Posted by: Some stoned retard who's now in his 70s at June 20, 2026 11:20 AM (ycI94)

8 So don't comment on this post?

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:20 AM (KC5Lt)

9 Working in Morrisville, statue of Robert Morris is but couple blocks away. Another Founding Father

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 11:20 AM (Ia/+0)

10 Thanks, KT!

Posted by: RandomDave at June 20, 2026 11:20 AM (aJQbY)

11 Wait. I thought George W. Chimpy McHitler Bush was the worst president ever.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Reagan was literally Hitler first!

Posted by: The wheel of liberal fickle at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM (ycI94)

12 I think Tennessee Williams is our Shakespeare.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM (KC5Lt)

13 Willowed from morning thread-

327 314 Hollywood doing Hollywood.
“Matlock” Reboot Writer Sues CBS and Showrunner for Alleged Racism, Sexual Harassment
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 11:08 AM (ndZc7)
Don't you mean the Andy Griffith Show? Wall to wall wypipa on that one. Now Matlock was a virtual this-n-that, a paint color choice catalog of humanity. No racism there except the occasional 'white guy did it'.
Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 11:15 AM (LHPAg)

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM (LHPAg)

14 https://iotwreport.com/robble-robble/

"Wild Bill says:
Saturday, 20 June 2026, 10:17 at 10:17 am

She looks like Judge Doom from Roger Rabbit."

I laughed outloud and woke up people

Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM (jrgJz)

15 Dave Barry.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 11:22 AM (LHPAg)

16 Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM (jrgJz)

Best character on the Andy Griffith Show.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)

17 Morning.

I've heard Twain thrown about as the Great American writer.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 11:23 AM (b4s65)

18 Samuel Adams makes better beer than John.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 20, 2026 11:24 AM (0sNs1)

19 Please don't say Ernest Hemingway.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:25 AM (KC5Lt)

20 If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have?

Tempted to put in a word for Robert E Howard.

Posted by: the riddle of steel at June 20, 2026 11:25 AM (W0KIM)

21 17 Morning.

I've heard Twain thrown about as the Great American writer.
Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 11:23 AM (b4s65)

Ugh.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 11:26 AM (T6aVk)

22 At DM: "Take the 10-second finger exercise that may reveal your risk of dementia"

tl;dr: Stick it in your ear and palpate your brain. Lumpy? That's normal. (Remember to remove finger from ear after the procedure.)

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:26 AM (Jr5Lq)

23 As it happens I will be passing through Quincy, MA in a couple hours. Just last year Quincy dedicated a new park in the heart of the city to its namesake John Quincy Adams complete with a new statue of Q. You don't see Democrats putting up a lot of statues these days but they put that one up.

Boston is full of statues and monuments to our founders. So many you almost don't notice them after a while. No matter what you think of massholes if you are a fan of US history its a great city to visit.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

24 I would choose Mark Twain as our Homer.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at June 20, 2026 11:27 AM (Skc+N)

25 Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM (jrgJz)

Best character on the Andy Griffith Show.
Posted by: polynikes

"It's me, it's me! It's Ernest T!"

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 11:28 AM (l26NL)

26 22 At DM: "Take the 10-second finger exercise that may reveal your risk of dementia"

tl;dr: Stick it in your ear and palpate your brain. Lumpy? That's normal. (Remember to remove finger from ear after the procedure.)
Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:26 AM (Jr5Lq)

So many quack clickbait scam ads, so little time.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 11:28 AM (T6aVk)

27 "Who Is America’s Homer?"

Herman Wouk? Herman Melville? 'Herman' sounds a little bit like 'Homer.' At least if you have bad hearing like I do.

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:29 AM (Jr5Lq)

28 Tempted to put in a word for Robert E Howard.
Posted by: the riddle of steel at June 20, 2026 11:25 AM (W0KIM)

Ever been to his home in Cross Plains, TX?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 11:29 AM (T6aVk)

29 Freddy tweeted that his luggafe aline was 11pounds overweight lol

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 11:30 AM (dE3DB)

30 @Polymarket
JUST IN: Cuba’s Communist Party approves sweeping free-market reforms in an unprecedented move to open the economy.
Jun 18, 2026 · 10:23 PM UTC


#winning

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 11:31 AM (W0KIM)

31 Tempted to put in a word for Robert E Howard.
Posted by: the riddle of steel

Tom Wolfe, maybe? Maybe?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 11:31 AM (l26NL)

32
If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have

SAT question :

Who above does not belong in the group?

Dante. The rest are considered playwrights

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:31 AM (KC5Lt)

33 I picked up a cheap bluray copy of the HBO produced John Adams miniseries. Watched it. It was freakin' good! Really freakin' good! Definitely a recommend from me.

It's not perfect. For example early on when they're going over the debates on independence the guy who played John Rutledge played him as if he were a flaming queer. I really have no idea why. It was...bizarre. But the focus is on John Adams and Paul Giamatti was outstanding. Laura Linney played Abigail Adams and was very easy on the eyes.

The book is obviously WAY better but I think the miniseries is definitely worth your time.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 11:32 AM (b4s65)

34 I saw the Bible Museum when it came through Colorado Springs several years ago. I was amazed at how many items were in the collection. I recommend seeing it if you get the opportunity.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 11:32 AM (FMtrg)

35 33 Concur.

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:32 AM (Jr5Lq)

36 Salena Zeto retweeted this 😆 as "pretty accurate"

@PabloEscoburner

At this rate Freddy - after gaining 20 pounds - will be flying back to Germany on the back of a bald eagle, shooting an AR-15 while drinking Miller Lite, flanked by F-35s streaming red, white, and blue across the sky while Free Bird is playing from the heavens.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 11:32 AM (6U1c2)

37 32
If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have

SAT question :

Who above does not belong in the group?

Dante. The rest are considered playwrights

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:31 AM (KC5Lt)

That's because Dante played wrong...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 11:33 AM (l3cgK)

38 Who's "Shakespeare"?

Posted by: Ben Jonson at June 20, 2026 11:33 AM (W0KIM)

39 I'd say that this country is best known for the invention of musicals. Shakespearean stories put to music.

Oh....and ROCK & ROLL!!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2026 11:34 AM (1qLmG)

40 Good morning Hordemates!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 11:34 AM (2WIwB)

41 Maybe a good book thread discussion
Mark Twain maybe?

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 11:34 AM (Ia/+0)

42 "That's because Dante played wrong..."

What is it with the word 'playwright' anyway? "I'm Arthur Miller, and I implore you to see all the plays I wrought."

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:35 AM (Jr5Lq)

43 I do not recognize the guy in the photo about America's Homer.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 11:35 AM (FMtrg)

44 42 "That's because Dante played wrong..."

What is it with the word 'playwright' anyway? "I'm Arthur Miller, and I implore you to see all the plays I wrought."

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:35 AM (Jr5Lq)

There's iron in those words...wrought iron.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 11:35 AM (l3cgK)

45 I picked up a cheap bluray copy of the HBO produced John Adams miniseries. Watched it. It was freakin' good! Really freakin' good! Definitely a recommend from me.
Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit!

I'm starting it now, dadgummit. I don't like the episode where they give the cow pox as a vaccine to stop small pox. It's too painful. But it worked. Dr Fauci, care to comment?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 11:36 AM (l26NL)

46 Bacon is in the skillet. Coffee in the mug.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 11:36 AM (1z8ji)

47 I remember at one time they taught history in school. But these days it's more about race and sex and how much the country owes you. Oh, and of course, how underpaid teachers are.

Posted by: Case at June 20, 2026 11:36 AM (IY9No)

48 Where is the Adams statue?

Where is the Adagio filmed?

Posted by: I left my real nic in my other pair of pants at June 20, 2026 11:36 AM (i0sUn)

49 If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have

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Aflfred Hitchcock

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 11:36 AM (6U1c2)

50 Eugene ONeil and Authur Miller are two other great American playwrights.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:37 AM (KC5Lt)

51 America's best poet was Poe and it's not close.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 11:37 AM (W0KIM)

52 12 I think Tennessee Williams is our Shakespeare.
Posted by: polynikes

My mother has always been big into community theater, so I've been obligated to attend all sorts of shows. My recollection of Tennessee Williams was "boring" and "dysfunctional, mean-spirited and anti-American," but after looking up the two plays I specifically recalling, he is absolved.

"Buried Child" by Sam Shepard and "Long Day's Journey into Night" by Eugene O'Neill. People sitting around being miserable and hating each other seems to be compelling storytelling to far too many people.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 11:38 AM (ycI94)

53 John and Samuel Adams were cousins, if I remember right.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 11:38 AM (l26NL)

54 Well that cited post answered it's own question, Shelby Foote, right?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 20, 2026 11:40 AM (U/Byj)

55 I do not recognize the guy in the photo about America's Homer.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace


Shelby Foote, iirc ...

Posted by: Adriane the Chronologically Challanged Hump Day Critic . . . at June 20, 2026 11:40 AM (3ZUWJ)

56 @Polymarket
JUST IN: Cuba’s Communist Party approves sweeping free-market reforms in an unprecedented move to open the economy.
Jun 18, 2026 · 10:23 PM UTC

#winning
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 11:31 AM (W0KIM)

Cuba takes it's next step into Elbonia. New product: signs saying: My Hovel, My Pig.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 11:41 AM (qx7Zg)

57 Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 11:38 AM (ycI

Death of a Salesman isn't a joyous play either.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:41 AM (KC5Lt)

58 America's Homer? It's a tie between Donald Hamilton, author of the Matt Helm series, and John D. MacDonald,
author of Travis McGee.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 20, 2026 11:41 AM (vOjEn)

59 38 Who's "Shakespeare"?
Posted by: Ben Jonson

An old white racist colonizer who stole ideas from the indigenous colored English and labeled them as his own original work!!!

Posted by: Rep Jasmine Crockett at June 20, 2026 11:42 AM (ycI94)

60 I like the movie based on This Property is Condemned though as always in plays it is a tragic ending.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:43 AM (KC5Lt)

61 >>Where is the Adams statue?

His hometown, Quincy, MA.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 11:43 AM (viF8m)

62 On Family Feud: "Who Is America’s Homer?"

Survey says: "Homer Simpson!"

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:43 AM (Jr5Lq)

63 Yes, the photo matches the ones I saw online of Shelby Foote.

Thanks, Horde, you bunch of experts!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 11:43 AM (FMtrg)

64 The Founding Fathers

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 20, 2026 11:44 AM (yQ27C)

65 "Death of a Salesman isn't a joyous play either."

Probably my fave.

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:44 AM (Jr5Lq)

66 "Shakespeare"... An old white racist colonizer who stole ideas from the indigenous colored English and labeled them as his own original work!!!
Posted by: Rep Jasmine Crockett at June 20, 2026 11:42 AM (ycI94)


Get thee to a nunnery, virago.

Posted by: Sir Thomas North at June 20, 2026 11:45 AM (W0KIM)

67 No, wait. My fave is "Glengarry Glen Ross."

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:46 AM (Jr5Lq)

68 Sort of depends upon whether you regard Homer as a poet or a storyteller, doesn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 11:46 AM (1z8ji)

69 This Father's Day is different than the others just for the simple fact that my husband is now a landowner in the country, and that he now lives less than a half mile from our youngest daughter, her husband, and our two granddaughters.

Took him almost 60 years, but better late than never.

Sitting here on the porch, watching the horses graze on our pasture (crazy to even say those words), I thank God that He brought us here, and in this moment of time.

Fifty years ago, when I was seven and living in military housing in the Bay Area, I witnessed all the hoopla surrounding the Bicentennial and it was something to behold.

Little did I know then that fifty years later, I'd be living in the country in the Ozarks in Missouri, watching my daughter's horses possibly destroy the apple tree saplings.

God Bless America.

BRB

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 11:47 AM (ZHOnm)

70 46 Bacon is in the skillet. Coffee in the mug.

Whiskey in the jar?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2026 11:47 AM (Riz8t)

71 Death of a Salesman isn't a joyous play either."

Probably my fave.
Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:44 AM (Jr5Lq)

About as depressing as can be. To me anyway.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:48 AM (KC5Lt)

72 Buried Child" by Sam Shepard and "Long Day's Journey into Night" by Eugene O'Neill. People sitting around being miserable and hating each other seems to be compelling storytelling to far too many people.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 11:38 AM (ycI94)

This is true. And if you've noticed, every backstory of almost every character in movies has a tragic or really fucked up childhood. I get so sick of it that I usually start to think that shitty little brat deserved it.

I'd like to see a main character have a wonderful childhood with TWO (a man and a woman) loving parents for once.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2026 11:48 AM (1sDNq)

73 Who's "Shakespeare"?
Posted by: Ben Jonson

An old white racist colonizer who stole ideas from the indigenous colored English and labeled them as his own original work!!!

Posted by: Rep Jasmine Crockett


Greek homo.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 20, 2026 11:48 AM (Riz8t)

74 "Sort of depends upon whether you regard Homer as a poet or a storyteller, doesn't it?"

He was an epicist. Whoa, that's a real word. IDNKT!

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:48 AM (Jr5Lq)

75 >>> 52
==
"Buried Child" by Sam Shepard and "Long Day's Journey into Night" by Eugene O'Neill. People sitting around being miserable and hating each other seems to be compelling storytelling to far too many people.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 11:38 AM (ycI94)

I looked up summaries of both (had never even heard of the first one) and holy @(%*& the writers sound like miserable douchebags.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 11:49 AM (R+iUD)

76 Buried Child" by Sam Shepard and "Long Day's Journey into Night" by Eugene O'Neill. People sitting around being miserable and hating each other seems to be compelling storytelling to far too many people.
Posted by: Moron Analyst


Pffffffft.

Posted by: Henrik Ibsen at June 20, 2026 11:50 AM (Riz8t)

77 I remember at one time they taught history in school. But these days it's more about race and sex and how much the country owes you. Oh, and of course, how underpaid teachers are.
Posted by: Case
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'Sociology' replaced 'Civics'. It's been downhill ever since.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2026 11:50 AM (XeU6L)

78 An old white racist colonizer who stole ideas from the indigenous colored English and labeled them as his own original work!!!
Posted by: Rep Jasmine Crockett at June 20, 2026 11:42
+++

Thereby hangs a tail.

Posted by: IYKYK at June 20, 2026 11:50 AM (D2IX4)

79 >>No, wait. My fave is "Glengarry Glen Ross."

Ironically, also about the death of a salesman.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 11:50 AM (viF8m)

80 America's best poet was Poe and it's not close.
Posted by: gKWVE
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Concur

Posted by: Ace's crow at June 20, 2026 11:51 AM (XeU6L)

81 The original list already varied between poets, authors and playwrights...maybe we could branch a bit more into other arts?

John Philip Sousa for music?
Early Norman Rockwell for art?

Both kind of capture the original American spirit.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 11:51 AM (ycI94)

82 Puts in plug for Louis L'Amour.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 11:51 AM (1z8ji)

83 I'm kinda partial to Lorraine Hansberry, because reasons.

A Raisin in the Sun is a story that strikes a chord in many people.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 11:52 AM (ZHOnm)

84 SMH!

That sounds wonderful. Congratulations on the move and being closer to grandbabies and their parents.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 11:53 AM (R+iUD)

85 I think I'd like to make Rudyard Kipling an honorary American. He's my favorite writer/poet.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:53 AM (KC5Lt)

86 I got a little kick out of Aristophanes "The Clouds." If you hate faux academics and "experts," that's the play for you.

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:53 AM (Jr5Lq)

87 Buried Child" by Sam Shepard and "Long Day's Journey into Night" by Eugene O'Neill. People sitting around being miserable and hating each other seems to be compelling storytelling to far too many people.
Posted by: Moron Analyst

Pffffffft.
Posted by: Henrik Ibsen
--------
pffffffffft.



Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?"

Posted by: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? at June 20, 2026 11:54 AM (XeU6L)

88 That sounds wonderful. Congratulations on the move and being closer to grandbabies and their parents.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 11:53 AM (R+iUD)

Likewise from me!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 11:56 AM (1z8ji)

89 SMH, I am so happy for you! May the Lord make your family and land fruitful.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 11:56 AM (FMtrg)

90 I'm partial to Ernie Pyle as far as greatest writer

Best song is Damn Yankees "Don't Tread on Me"

I eat hotdogs with ketchup

I throw rocks

Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 20, 2026 11:57 AM (jrgJz)

91 I think I'd like to make Rudyard Kipling an honorary American. He's my favorite writer/poet.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:53 AM (KC5Lt)

Didn't he live in America for a bit? Like somewhere in New England?

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 11:57 AM (b4s65)

92 Helena!

Their horses moved in before we did.

Daughter and SiL saw all the pasture, and as soon as the papers were signed and they got the keys from the seller, their three horses and a donkey were moved in to feast on 3+ acres of overgrown pasture.

The pasture on their property is very rocky and it's pretty much depleted, so they're usually fed hay.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 11:58 AM (ZHOnm)

93 I looked up summaries of both (had never even heard of the first one) and holy @(%*& the writers sound like miserable douchebags.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

In contrast, the play Driving Miss Daisy, by Alfred Uhry, was wonderful and positive. Don't know much about him personally, but the play itself is a good, uplifting story.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 11:58 AM (ycI94)

94 "Our Town" is maybe the only play I've seen in person, performed on stage. It seemed profound at the time, but many decades later, I'm thinking 'tripe.'

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 11:58 AM (Jr5Lq)

95 Didn't he live in America for a bit? Like somewhere in New England?
Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 11:57 AM (b4s65)

He lived with Mary in Brattleboro.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:59 AM (KC5Lt)

96 The question raises a deep subject.

At least two fathoms deep.

Posted by: Samuel Langhorne Clemens at June 20, 2026 11:59 AM (D2IX4)

97 Thanks Emmie!

Best thing of all, no longer living in Illinois, lol.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:00 PM (ZHOnm)

98 Poe fits America's greatest poet to a T.
POE-T

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 12:00 PM (6U1c2)

99 43 I do not recognize the guy in the photo about America's Homer.

neither do we

Posted by: the stonecutters at June 20, 2026 12:01 PM (qdr3M)

100 "Ironically, also about the death of a salesman."

I despise salesmen, but I love dramas about salesmen.

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 12:01 PM (Jr5Lq)

101 Thanks AOP. : )

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:02 PM (ZHOnm)

102 Yup, sounds like SMH is living a happy ever after.
Wonderful!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 12:02 PM (6U1c2)

103 He lived with Mary in Brattleboro.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:59 AM (KC5Lt)

Ooohhhh, so THAT was the white man's burden he was talking about!

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 12:02 PM (b4s65)

104 Poe is great but his genre ain't my thing.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:02 PM (KC5Lt)

105 Who is the most quotable in America?

For me England has a toss up between Oscar Wilde and Winston Churchill.

Mark Twain or Will Rogers are some candidates for America.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:05 PM (KC5Lt)

106 Best thing of all, no longer living in Illinois, lol.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:00 PM (ZHOnm)


I can relate. It's kinda depressing what Denver and Boulder are doing to my beloved Colorado. But I'm loving the wholesome and sweet culture of Arkansas. (When I was researching for the primaries, I noticed the candidate websites nearly always mentioned what church the candidate attends.)

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 12:06 PM (FMtrg)

107 Yup, sounds like SMH is living a happy ever after.
Wonderful!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 12:02 PM (6U1c2)
___

All this is just a foretaste for what's to come when Jesus returns.

Imagine what the new Heavens and Earth are going to look like after the Master Craftsman gets done with them both.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:08 PM (ZHOnm)

108 Best thing of all, no longer living in Illinois, lol.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy

Best to get out of commieland while one can.

I saw a post by Gad Saad bemoaning the fact that when he started to plsn to leave Canada, he realized that Canada's departure tax would take the equivalent of ten tears of savings snd spend it on anti-semitic immigrants

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 12:11 PM (6U1c2)

109
Puts in plug for Louis L'Amour.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 11:51 AM (1z8ji)


I'm partial to Elmore Leonard myself, but I'll accept L'Amour, especially Last of the Breed.

Poe is probably the serious choice, unless you're a poofter academic, then you can slap-fight each other over Whitman vs Thoreau.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2026 12:11 PM (y9nCu)

110 @GadSaad:
"I decide to leave Quebec/Canada because:

1) the taxation system is astounding, rendering it nearly impossible to accumulate enough money to truly retire
2) the government's open immigration policies have made it unsafe for my family to remain here (due to the exponential increase in Jew-hatred).

Today I found out that I shall have to pay a departure tax for exercising my right to leave, and the money that will be taken from me (because the obscene amount of taxes that I've already paid in full is not enough) will be given to new incoming immigrants who hate Jews. My taxes funded my forced exit and will fund the harassment of any remaining Jews in Canada.

It would take me 10+ more years of work to save the amount that is likely to be taken via the departure tax.

Is this moral? Ethical? Just? In any case, off to bed. Tomorrow is a new day."

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 12:12 PM (6U1c2)

111
83 I'm kinda partial to Lorraine Hansberry, because reasons.

A Raisin in the Sun is a story that strikes a chord in many people.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 11:52 AM

--------

Was the raisin a grape when it was first put out in the sun?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 20, 2026 12:13 PM (KDsZt)

112 "departure tax" Cripes.

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 12:13 PM (Jr5Lq)

113 Damn patriotism is going to make me watch soccer. I won't watch the Turkey match but will the match after which counts.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:14 PM (KC5Lt)

114 I saw a post by Gad Saad bemoaning the fact that when he started to plsn to leave Canada, he realized that Canada's departure tax would take the equivalent of ten tears of savings snd spend it on anti-semitic immigrants
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 12:11 PM (6U1c2)
___

Good luck if Illinois tries to collect a dime from us.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:14 PM (ZHOnm)

115 I should probably go get some feed before the stores close.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 20, 2026 12:15 PM (R+iUD)

116 I saw a post by Gad Saad bemoaning the fact that when he started to plsn to leave Canada, he realized that Canada's departure tax would take the equivalent of ten tears of savings snd spend it on anti-semitic immigrants
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 12:11 PM (6U1c2)

I did not know we had a departure tax. Turns out the only substantial assets I own are exempt categories, Canadian real estate, and registered retirement income fund.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 12:15 PM (1z8ji)

117 A Raisin in the Sun is a story that strikes a chord in many people.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 11:52 AM

The movie was very good. Of course I don't know how much they edited the play for the big screen.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:17 PM (KC5Lt)

118 So the cinemas here are cluttered with "Girls Like Girls" and "Leviticus", and nobody's playing "Citizen Vigilante".
Standing up against criminals: bad
Teenaged homosexuals: good

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 12:18 PM (KAw7u)

119 "A Raisin in the Sun" (1961) Added to my list, thanks! It looks like there was a 1989 film too.
youtube.com/watch?v=rG7PSC9ICeU

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 12:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

120 I will vote for Truman Capote for best writer. Sure he was gay, an alcoholic, and drug abuser. But he also wrote the truth about high society snobs who needed to be ratted out.

Posted by: Case at June 20, 2026 12:24 PM (IY9No)

121 No, I'm #1 Dad!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2026 12:25 PM (6h45X)

122 The movie was very good. Of course I don't know how much they edited the play for the big screen.
Posted by: polynikes
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The movie was adapted from the Broadway play.

In fact, Lorraine Hansberry herself wrote the screenplay, and most of the Broadway cast reprised their roles in the movie.

So there's little difference between the play and movie.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:25 PM (ZHOnm)

123 Is this moral? Ethical? Just? In any case, off to bed. Tomorrow is a new day."
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
___

Moral? No.
Ethical? No.
Just? No.

Expected from a country that murders its citizens over being depressed? Yes.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:29 PM (ZHOnm)

124 I did not know we had a departure tax. Turns out the only substantial assets I own are exempt categories, Canadian real estate, and registered retirement income fund.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 12:15 PM (1z8ji)

Yup, there's the Canadian one and Quebec has one too. He lives in Quebec so it's really ugly for him.

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 12:31 PM (1ieqq)

125 Departue tax is the same as kidnapping.
You can't leave until we are paid.

Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2026 12:34 PM (wjnjX)

126 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:25 PM (ZHOnm)

Good to know.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:35 PM (KC5Lt)

127 Departure tax is the same as kidnapping.
You can't leave until we are paid.
Posted by: Reforger
___

Yep.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:35 PM (ZHOnm)

128 Yup, there's the Canadian one and Quebec has one too. He lives in Quebec so it's really ugly for him.
Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 12:31 PM (1ieqq)

He should find a good tax lawyer and accountant, and find a way to structure his assets to avoid, or evade the departure tax.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 12:35 PM (1z8ji)

129 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:25 PM (ZHOnm)

You might like some books/plays by Charlayne Woodard. I was a close friend with her brother when I lived in NY.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:38 PM (KC5Lt)

130 He should find a good tax lawyer and accountant, and find a way to structure his assets to avoid, or evade the departure tax.

Gad's already lived in Mississippi for almost a year, I think.

Ole Miss installed him at their Constitution Center. Because a Lebanese-born Jew from Canada is more patriotic than Democrats.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2026 12:38 PM (QZThv)

131 Escape From Canada.
Having been severely punished by exile to Canada for shutting off the lights. Snake Pliskin again is on the run. This time it's financial.

Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2026 12:40 PM (wjnjX)

132 Leaving Canada is expensive? I'm not at all surprised. It's probably the template California's dreaming of implementing as people and businesses flee the warm embrace of socialism there.

It's also expensive to immigrate TO Canada. After Trump's second election the number of "ex-pats" heading to Canada spiked. But many were unprepared for the costs associated, and the other requirements about buying property there, employment, and so on.

Much sobbing ensued.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 12:41 PM (jehhT)

133 Number 1 dad?

It's GO time!

https://youtu.be/_NXEZFR9uxw

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at June 20, 2026 12:42 PM (D2IX4)

134 Didn't realize the time, way past lunch time

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 12:42 PM (Ia/+0)

135 I'm taking off to the hospital to visit Mama Publius. She was admitted last night - had a hematoma on her calf that is one of the grossest things I've ever seen. It opened up and that triggered the trip to the ER. It was 4 hours before they could bring her into the ER room, and another 3 hours before we finally left her (I was falling asleep - there's nothing that makes you more somnolent than waiting in a hospital ER).

They're giving her IV antibiotics. Not sure how long they'll keep her, but one hopes not long.

The doctor said they're putting her on IV lasik to combat edema. He wants to put her comfort first, which is exactly right (the edema is what lies behind the hematoma, I think).

The house is empty without her. The oxygen concentrator stands silent. There is no sound of a bell ringing for an escort to the bathroom to carry the oxygen hose for her and prevent her from tripping over it (she loves the PureWick thing the hospitals use).

A foreshadowing. Losing his father was hard, but losing his mother is going to be brutal. And it's inevitable.

Prayers are always appreciated.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 12:42 PM (w6EFb)

136 Gad's already lived in Mississippi for almost a year, I think.

Ole Miss installed him at their Constitution Center. Because a Lebanese-born Jew from Canada is more patriotic than Democrats.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2026 12:38 PM (QZThv)

If he was up there for part of 2025 he'd file a tax return, so that's how they got him on the departure taxes. Canada's filing season is a bit later than the U.S. season.

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 12:43 PM (1ieqq)

137 The US has an exit tax if you renounce your citizenship but it's not putative.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:44 PM (KC5Lt)

138 Welcome, Gad. Have some Conecuh sausage?

Posted by: Southeastern Conference football fans at June 20, 2026 12:45 PM (D2IX4)

139 Filled up 87 octane for $3.99/gal today.

Posted by: gp at June 20, 2026 12:46 PM (Jr5Lq)

140 No matter what you think of massholes if you are a fan of US history its a great city to visit.

DC is the same. Not sure I can recommend just walking it nowadays, but you can’t toss a conveniently-laid brick without hitting the statue of some obscure historical figure well worth reading up on.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 12:46 PM (kYmoU)

141 Prayers up, Miley.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:46 PM (ZHOnm)

142 If you keep your citizenship but relocate to another country you still get taxed on your income but you also get to deduct the foreign taxes you pay. (Simplified explanation)

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 12:47 PM (KC5Lt)

143 It's also expensive to immigrate TO Canada. After Trump's second election the number of "ex-pats" heading to Canada spiked. But many were unprepared for the costs associated, and the other requirements about buying property there, employment, and so on.

Much sobbing ensued.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 12:41 PM (jehhT)

Because they're not part of the favored groups for which the government rolls out the welcome mat and provides handouts. If you're not one of them, absolutely it's a pain to move there. And not shockingly, Quebec is the hardest province to emigrate to because they have their own rules in addition to the federal ones.

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 12:47 PM (1ieqq)

144 Incidentally, vis-a-vis the Adams’s statues, this July 4 also marks the 200th anniversary of the death of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

Of the first five presidents, three died on Independence Day, two of them within hours of each other on the Jubilee of 1826.

I’ve been going through the post July 4, 1826, newspapers reading eulogies and other writings, pursuant to my July 4 blog post. There are times when I think God is attempting to prove Oolon Colluphid right.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 12:48 PM (kYmoU)

145 https://iotwreport.com/robble-robble/
"Wild Bill says:
Saturday, 20 June 2026, 10:17 at 10:17 am
She looks like Judge Doom from Roger Rabbit."
I laughed outloud and woke up people
Posted by: Ernest T. Bass at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM (jrgJz)


Hillz is trying to pull off the Melania-in-the-bolero-hat look.

Like everything else she has done, she failed.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 12:49 PM (rbvCR)

146
Carney is a European Socialist, you see, whose family lives in the United States, along with his money.

When you live north of the border looking down comes naturally.

Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2026 12:50 PM (Y8DZL)

147 Our Homer? No question: Edgar Rice Burroughs.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 12:50 PM (kYmoU)

148 Though I do agree with AOP that Louis l’Amour is a strong contender.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 12:51 PM (kYmoU)

149 Don't know who I'd peg as the American Homer. But for my money, the Great American Tragedy is Robert Anderson's I Never Sang for My Father. And the novels of Don Robertson should have been given a spot in the Library of America's catalog years ago. Ditto Irwin Shaw.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 12:53 PM (q3u5l)

150 You might like some books/plays by Charlayne Woodard. I was a close friend with her brother when I lived in NY.
Posted by: polynikes
___

Will look her up, though to be honest, the only reason I even heard about Lorraine Hansberry and A Raisin in the Sun is because she's family (dad's aunt, so my great-aunt, I guess), and the movie was shown constantly when I was growing up.

I read the play when I was well into adulthood, as well as her other writings.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:53 PM (ZHOnm)

151 Homer would have to be discussing the legendary past of THIS planet, not someone else's, so ERB wouldn't count.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 12:53 PM (KAw7u)

152 So here in Washington state, the dems are trying to undermine the election of county sheriffs by making them subject to a state board. At a local county meeting, one lefty Karen got her panties all in a wad became didn't like what she was hearing. So she dialed 911 to have the police come arrest those horrible people saying things that offended her. The cops came, laughed, and left.
This is how stupid these people are.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 12:53 PM (2WIwB)

153 Now this is a place you don't want to enter without permission.

https://is.gd/G3YoRO

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 12:54 PM (qx7Zg)

154
So the cinemas here are cluttered with "Girls Like Girls" and "Leviticus", and nobody's playing "Citizen Vigilante".
Standing up against criminals: bad
Teenaged homosexuals: good
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 12:18 PM (KAw7u)



Citizen Vigilante has two seemingly insurmountable obstacles. A subject matter which the Hollywood commies despise, and Uwe Boll.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 20, 2026 12:55 PM (y9nCu)

155 Who could have guessed the Soviets didn't have the idea of a exet fee and let anyone out that wanted to go.
Maybe the Gulag system having workers workfor free was making more money that letting them leave for a few thousand rubles

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 12:55 PM (Ia/+0)

156 I've heard Twain thrown about as the Great American writer.
Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 11:23 AM (b4s65


Twain, Grant, and Lincoln defined the modern American voice. Prior it was all sorts of purple prose and Feinmoor Cooper alliteration, even Twain's actual contemporaries were overly intricate and cloyingly saccharine in their language.
Twain got sucked into that voice when he was being literary, but in his newspaper articles and the stories he was selling for money, he was very clean and open in his language.

The current bests, in my opinion, are David Drake and Larry Correia. They are both excellent technical writers who also have imagination, something to say, and a keen vision on people.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 12:56 PM (rbvCR)

157 Mark Twain's "Huckleberry Finn" is arguably an Odyssey.
American letters are littered with wouldbe Iliads, most clustered in Civil War literature.
"Gone With The Wind" might count alongside one of those posthomeric fanfics which didn't get copied by the Romans and those after them.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 12:56 PM (KAw7u)

158 Homer would have to be discussing the legendary past of THIS planet, not someone else's, so ERB wouldn't count.

Leaving aside how much of his planetary stories were about Americans on an Odyssey in very foreign lands, it is always a good idea to read more ERB. Tarzan, for example. And the Earth’s Core series.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 12:57 PM (kYmoU)

159 More prayers up, Miley.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 12:57 PM (qx7Zg)

160
In "Good Will Hunting" Matt Damon, who is wicked smaht, definitively pegged Howard Zinn as America's Homer 'cause he was right about everything.

Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2026 12:58 PM (Y8DZL)

161 Cloyingly Saccharine used to tour with Up With People.

Posted by: Back in the day at June 20, 2026 12:58 PM (D2IX4)

162 Uwe Boll is to cinema what Jerry Sandusky was to college sports.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 12:58 PM (KAw7u)

163 Prayers up, Miley.

Yes.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 12:59 PM (kYmoU)

164 *Mark Twain's "Huckleberry Finn" is arguably an Odyssey.
American letters are littered with wouldbe Iliads, most clustered in Civil War literature.*

(ahem)

Posted by: My name's Gump. Forrest Gump. at June 20, 2026 01:00 PM (D2IX4)

165 Writers?
Twain, and Steinbeck. Maybe Hemingway.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 01:01 PM (2WIwB)

166 In "Good Will Hunting" Matt Damon, who is wicked smaht, definitively pegged Howard Zinn as America's Homer 'cause he was right about everything.
Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2026 12:58 PM (Y8D

Definitely the worst part of the movie .

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 01:03 PM (KC5Lt)

167 Prayers upward Miley.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 01:05 PM (2WIwB)

168 American Homer. Three choices come to mind. Mark Twain, Wendell Berry, and Shelby Foote. Washington Irving would be in the race except he was too early in the 1800s.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 01:06 PM (yTvNw)

169 Don't know who I'd peg

Woo woo!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 01:07 PM (Kt19C)

170 I read the play when I was well into adulthood, as well as her other writings.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 12:53 PM (ZHOnm)

Good reason to read it. Same reason I'm familiar with Woodards plays , which are about family similar to RitS, is because of my friendship with her brother.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 01:07 PM (KC5Lt)

171 Miley, so many prayers for you, mama Publius, and of course Publius.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 01:08 PM (Wmg4n)

172 Prayers for Mama Publius and Miley.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2026 01:09 PM (yTvNw)

173 12 I think Tennessee Williams is our Shakespeare.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM
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Yea, if Shakespeare was a poofter.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at June 20, 2026 01:09 PM (PY/mn)

174 Thanks, SMH!

Taking off now.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 01:09 PM (w6EFb)

175 >>>If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have? Do we have a great poet who captures the American spirit, the American story, the American identity?

>Dr. Seuss

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 20, 2026 01:11 PM (fkjGs)

176 Regarding departure fees: Why not just convert your assets to cash and then sneak out without telling anyone you're leaving? If they send you a bill, just chuck it in n the round for me.

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 20, 2026 01:14 PM (cct0t)

177 If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have? Do we have a great poet who captures the American spirit, the American story, the American identity?

“I am no wordsmith dripping words divine
 Into the golden chalice of a sonnet;
 If love songs witch you, close this book of mine,
 Waste no time on it.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 01:16 PM (kYmoU)

178 "for me" was supposed to be "file"

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 20, 2026 01:16 PM (cct0t)

179 I think Tennessee Williams is our Shakespeare.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:21 AM
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Yea, if Shakespeare was a poofter.
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at June 20, 2026 01:09 PM (PY/

The guy wrote more about getting tail than any other playwright even if liked the D.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 01:18 PM (KC5Lt)

180
Sweden getting stomped by the Dutch. Couldn't happen to a more deserving country.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 01:19 PM (O0L8i)

181 Sweden getting stomped by the Dutch. Couldn't happen to a more deserving country.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 01:19 PM (O0L8i)

More than the Dutch who hate us more bigley than the Swedes?

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 01:19 PM (KC5Lt)

182 I'm rooting for injuries and a tie.

Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2026 01:21 PM (wjnjX)

183 merican Homer. Three choices come to mind. Mark Twain, Wendell Berry, and Shelby Foote. Washington Irving would be in the race except he was too early in the 1800s.
Posted by: JTB

James A. Michener... if anybody actually read him.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 01:22 PM (/lPRQ)

184 James A. Michener... if anybody actually read him.

Technically, nobody read Homer either.

I’d say, as long as the movies are popular, not being read isn’t a disqualification.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 01:24 PM (kYmoU)

185
More than the Dutch who hate us more bigley than the Swedes?

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 01:19 PM (KC5Lt)

____________

Sweden, the pioneer country of abortion, pornography, smug neutralism and making bank selling iron ore to the Nazis. An asshole country with asshole people.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 01:24 PM (O0L8i)

186 And Larry McMurtry?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at June 20, 2026 01:25 PM (q3u5l)

187 Writers?
Twain, and Steinbeck. Maybe Hemingway.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 01:01 PM (2WIw

First two go candidates. Never got the Hemingway love.

As modern authors go, I think Steven Pressfield should be considered. Anyone who can write Gates of Fire and The Legend of Bagger Vance and have both project the western warrior ethos should be a candidate.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 01:26 PM (KC5Lt)

188 If England has Shakespeare, Spain has Cervantes, Italy has Dante, and Russia has Pushkin, then who do we have? Do we have a great poet who captures the American spirit, the American story, the American identity?

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Stephen Vincent Benet.

"John Brown's Body."

That is all.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 20, 2026 01:27 PM (amcLV)

189 160
In "Good Will Hunting" Matt Damon, who is wicked smaht, definitively pegged Howard Zinn as America's Homer 'cause he was right about everything.
Posted by: Auspex

He secretly wanted to BE pegged by Howard Zinn.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 20, 2026 01:28 PM (ycI94)

190 Praying for Mama Publius, Miley

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 01:28 PM (MyPTh)

191
American composer Samuel Barber and his Adagio for Strings.

Try to listen to that without getting emotional.

_____________

Thomas Schippers conducting the New York Philharmonic. Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 01:29 PM (O0L8i)

192 Sweden vs Netherlands game could be confused for an Algeria vs Nigeria game if only going back player names.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 01:31 PM (7YTFo)

193 If we're going list negatives, the Dutch are far worse imo.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 01:33 PM (KC5Lt)

194 https://legalinsurrection.com/nhs trailblazing first transgender lawmaker sentenced to 33 years for child sex crimes

A mental illness will send you to the Big House

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 01:33 PM (Ia/+0)

195 A mental illness will send you to the Big House

I don’t think you can exclude the Senate from that maxim…

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 01:35 PM (kYmoU)

196
In his long career, the legendary conductor Herbert von Karajan conducted exactly two (2) works by American composers, once each. The Barber Adagio wasn't one of them. Makes you wonder how it would have sounded.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 01:37 PM (O0L8i)

197 I think about John Adams and Thomas Jefferson a lot. They had to work together while working against each other, here and in France and England, over and over again their whole careers, until their dying days, which were the same day.

It's spooky. It's like they were born to offset each other.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 20, 2026 01:37 PM (BI5O2)

198 ...transgender lawmaker sentenced to 33 years for child sex crimes

A mental illness will send you to the Big House
Posted by: Skip


Who would have guessed that a depraved pervert would amp up their depravity to criminal levels?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 01:38 PM (/lPRQ)

199 Apropos of very little, I happened to run across the John Williams soundtrack for 1941 at a record store while traveling a few weeks ago. It was very good, and much better than I remembered from watching the movie.

In fact, it made me want to watch the movie again. Not surprising, since I enjoyed the movie, but it has been a very long time.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 01:40 PM (kYmoU)

200 On topic for Father's Day - we just finished the 8 episode Netflix show "I Will Find You"
Its a Harlan Coben thriller starring Sam Worthington and that redhead from Severance.
Fun watch and a tribute to fatherhood

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 01:43 PM (cSByu)

201 In fact, it made me want to watch the movie again. Not surprising, since I enjoyed the movie, but it has been a very long time.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 01:40 PM (kYmoU)
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Watch the director's cut. So much was left out of the theatrical cut that the movie becomes inexplicable.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 20, 2026 01:44 PM (amcLV)

202
Great American writer is Twain -- for prose. His fiction isn't that great -- narratives, plots, pacing, etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 01:44 PM (XJ22o)

203 It's spooky. It's like they were born to offset each other.

“At the grave of such men envy dies, and party animosity blushes while she quenches her fires.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 01:45 PM (kYmoU)

204
Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2026 12:53 PM (2WIwB)

================

The legislation and budgeting coming out of Sacramento (California) right now is not to be believed. Out of all the hellish data I could drop, I'll keep it to this:
Another $1bil PER YEAR for the Train To Nowhere

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 01:51 PM (XJ22o)

205 Watch the director's cut. So much was left out of the theatrical cut that the movie becomes inexplicable.

Thanks! I actually have the extended version on DVD, but it’s very old and looks horrible on a modern television. Despite it being much longer, I don’t recall it being overly long—like some other extended editions I’ve had—I remember on the extended Blues Brothers, the director talks about some of the scenes he cut from Aykroyd’s phonebook script, and for very good reason—and at least one of those scenes are in the new cut!

I’ll make sure that when I replace it the replacement also has the extended cut.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 20, 2026 01:53 PM (kYmoU)

206 The legislation and budgeting coming out of Sacramento (California) right now is not to be believed. Out of all the hellish data I could drop, I'll keep it to this:
Another $1bil PER YEAR for the Train To Nowhere
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

I assume Cali has a Mini Davis Bacon which requires submission of all payrolls. These could be tallied up. Probably not even 5% of total project cost. Not like they have a bunch of guys out there digging holes and filling them back in.
Cost is most likely almost all ideal equipment 'rent' even though wholly. owned by the contractors and paid for many times over... and profit and overhead on top of that. So really on order of 75% real profit and a good chunk of that finding its way back into politicians pockets.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 02:08 PM (/lPRQ)

207 In "Good Will Hunting" Matt Damon, who is wicked smaht, definitively pegged Howard Zinn as America's Homer 'cause he was right about everything.
Posted by: Auspex

He secretly wanted to BE pegged by Howard Zinn.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar

He actually shared a backyard with him. Which leads me to believe there was a pegging. I guess Damon's mom and he taught at the same college.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 20, 2026 02:56 PM (BAWkL)

208 "Who Is America’s Homer?"

D'oh!

Posted by: H. J. Simpson at June 20, 2026 03:08 PM (DZ9Lv)

209 Homer? Americans don't do epic poetry.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 03:10 PM (DZ9Lv)

210 Homer? Americans don't do epic poetry.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 03:10 PM (DZ9Lv)

You don't include "There once was a lass from Nantucket, ..."?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 03:34 PM (qx7Zg)

211 America's greatest writer is Bill Watterson.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 03:58 PM (DZ9Lv)

212 Update on Mama Publius. She's doing well, WBC down, and may be released tomorrow or maybe Monday. Very good news. She hurts all over her body because "they throw me around from bed to bed."

Hopefully she'll make the chiro appt for Monday afternoon.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 20, 2026 04:16 PM (w6EFb)

213 Penn Jillette nominated Noman Borlaug for the greatest ever.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 20, 2026 04:32 PM (nX6V3)

214 Howard Zinn was a prominent Leftist, and his "People's History" has a distinct Leftist slant that reflects his views.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 20, 2026 04:36 PM (fUsWh)

215 Somebody nominated Paul Simon for America's poet. In a long and varied career with some great songwriting

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 20, 2026 04:42 PM (fUsWh)

216 Don't forget Jean Shepherd as writer and raconteur. He's famous for more than "You'll shoot your eye out!"

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 20, 2026 04:45 PM (fUsWh)

217 And once again, I'm just talking to myself

Posted by: JM in Illinois at June 20, 2026 04:46 PM (fUsWh)

218 HOBBY NOOD if still here

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:32 PM (Ia/+0)

219 My daughter lives around the corner from the Bunker Hill Monument (until recently anyway), and named her child after Dr. Charles Warren.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 20, 2026 06:16 PM (Ha3no)

The Classical Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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[Coffee & Musical H/T Hadrian The Seventh]


Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Morrison)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind. Be nice. Black marks on your permanent record are not pretty.
3) A weekly reminder. No running with sharp objects.
4) Have a great weekend and a Happy Father's Day to all of you Fathers.


*****


AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

Prayer Requests:

3/28 – Jordan61 posted that Mr. Jordan61 is back in the hospital. His sepsis has returned and gotten into where his compression fracture is, and he has vertebral osteomyelitis. The doctor is supposed to come in today and let them know the plan.
5/26 Update – Mr. Jordan61 had his last antibiotic infusion on 5/24 and his PICC line was removed on 5/26. He will have follow-up blood work in 2 weeks but for now, all looks good!

4/3 – Teresa in Fort Worth posted an update. Her chemo seems to be holding things steady for now. Unfortunately, as she is receiving a steroid, she has gained about 25 pounds. Her blood sugar has also jumped up about 40 points (which only happens when she is on steroids).
6/1 Update – Teresa had a CT scan and has seen the surgeon. Everything looks good/stable. There are no new tumors and the ones that are there have pretty much stayed the same or shrunk. No metastises seen. Additional good news is that she can stay on the current medication, and just alternate it with other meds. She continues to respond extremely well to the protocols. She sends her gratitude for each and every prayer.

5/16 – Tonypete asked for prayers for Jane who is dying of breast cancer, and for Cheri who is in jail (again) for drug related crimes.
6/13 Update – Jane and her husband have sold their home and have moved back to Green Bay, to be with family when she dies.

5/20 – D gave an update on his wife Susan and her continued battle with cancer. Her cancer markers are still headed in the right direction. She is on a new antibiotic, and it is causing some side effects, but it is keeping her out of another surgery, so that is a win. Thanks again to everyone for their prayers. May 1 marked one year since they found out about the cancer, and Susan is doing so well.

5/20 – E gave an update. She and her family were having financial struggles a few months ago, and asked for prayers. E sends her thanks for the prayers, and wanted to let people know that things are getting better, thanks to the Horde’s prayers and their church family. They have resolved their mortgage issue and her husband has resumed his side gig making deliveries. They are also cutting monthly expenses. They would like continued prayers as they deal with the insurance company of the person who crashed into (and totaled) E’s vehicle. Insurance only offered half the replacement value, so that struggle is still going on.

5/23 – San Franpsycho sent a praise report. His prayer to become a grandad has been answered, and Girl F will have a baby in December. Girl F still plans to attend grad school, but will delay a year, which means they will depend on them for child care. This pleases San Franpsycho to the nth degree!

5/23 – Vmom deport deport deport would appreciate prayers. She has been freaking out about her eyesight. Her eye doctor says she has myopic macular degeneration.

5/23 – I used to have a Different Nic could use some prayers as he waits for the results of a biopsy of a mass on his prostate.
6/2 Update – I used to have a Different Nic sent in an update. He has been diagnosed with risk group 2 prostate cancer. It appears to be localized to the prostate but this will be verified via another scan. He has doctor appointments lined up for the next month or so before he starts treatment.

5/23 – George V sends his thanks for the prayers on behalf of his wife, when she had a heart valve replacement. The procedure went very well and she is doing great in the rehab program. But prayers are still needed. There are indications of problems in her lymph nodes that showed up in the scans checking her heart. She will have a biopsy in June, as well as a biopsy on a skin lesion that is looking suspicious. Thank you for all prayers.

5/26 – Doof posted a request for prayers for his mom. She is back in the hospital. She is very weak from one or more infections, and is sleeping a lot. She isn’t really talking when she is alert for a few minutes.
6/14 Update – Doof’s mother passed away.

5/27 – Grannysaurus Rex asked for prayers for Sherry, a co-worker, who is being tested for possible cancer of the blood.

5/29 – Bulg requested prayers for his sister, her husband, their four children, and the rest of the family as his sister is dying. She is in palliative care in the hospital, with a lot of blood clots, and is not expected to last long.
6/5 Update – Bulg asks for continued prayers for his sister and the family. He visited, and her condition had improved a lot. She was conscious and lucid. Bulg and his brother had a nice visit with their sister, and also got to visit with her family (husband, kids, grandkids). Bulg is grateful for the reconciliation with his sister and prays that she may be with them for a long while.
6/14 Update – Bulg’s sister passed away on 6/14. They all could use prayers of comfort.

5/29 – huerfano requested prayers for her brother, R, whose appendix “got hot”. Luckily he was with his daughter, who got him to ER quickly, and surgery was scheduled for 5/29.
6/6 Update – R had surgery, but his appendix was already leaking, so the surgery was more complicated and required lavage of his internals. He has been back at his daughter’s house since 6/1, and is thinking he’s ready to go home. Unfortunately, that’s 500 miles.

5/29 – Beltway Elite posted that s/he had just signed forms for her/his mom to enter hospice. Mom’s quality of life has been declining since she had a stroke several years ago, and she hasn’t been able to speak or swallow solid food recently.

5/30 – RandomDave posted that he would appreciate prayers as he searches for work. He has had some good job prospects/interviews over the past week.

6/2 – Ellipsis (… sent in an update. We had prayed for a friend of hers who was going through cancer treatment. It’s been a little over a year, and her port is out now and her hell is over. She is battered and bruised, but clear. Thank you to the Horde for prayers, and praise to Jesus.

6/4 – Teresa in Fort Worth’s niece (Amanda) received a heart transplant a few months ago. One of the complications of that was that her kidneys started failing, and she needed a kidney transplant. On 6/3, she received a new kidney and it appears to be working. Hallelujah! The family is so grateful for the gift from the donor’s family.

6/6 – Skip requested prayers for his boss and wife. Their oldest daughter passed away the day before her 30th birthday. They had also lost a son some years ago unexpectedly. They still have 2 daughters.

6/9 – “A” requested prayers for a long-time friend now suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease, who just fell and broke his hip. He came out of the anesthetic really confused. His wife and family also need prayers of support and strength to help him.

6/13 – Dash my lace wings asked for prayers for a friend named Lisa, who was diagnosed with liver duct cancer. She has been in the hospital for a couple of weeks and is afraid she will never leave.

6/13 – Tonypete requested prayers for an acquaintance (B), who has destroyed every relationship she has ever been a part of and spreads hate and torment to everyone around her.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.

2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.


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1 Top 10?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 07:59 AM (ei1sX)

2 Prayers for safety for all going to VA for the MoMe, a happy, interesting and fun time, and mutual support, and a safe trip back.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 07:59 AM (OYsYV)

3 I could've been first, but chose not to be.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 08:00 AM (J4Dwc)

4 I am grateful for Wawa's cinnamon churro coffee which is much preferable to blueberry flavored coffee, and yes, we make coffee at home, but FenSpouse usually stops in there on a break on
bus route. and he wanted to stop this morning too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 08:03 AM (OYsYV)

5 Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 08:00 AM (J4Dwc)

Were you deferring to s possible Blade appearance or just a naturally humble guy?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 08:04 AM (OYsYV)

6 Buzzion asked for prayers for Christina, who is still struggling with drug addiction and is in jail again. Please pray for a true wake up call to get through to her, even if it requires her to stay in jail.

Posted by: Annies Stew at June 20, 2026 08:04 AM (dNIAD)

7 Good morning everyone! I heard from grammie Winger recently. She had some very major surgery in March related to her cancer diagnosis and sadly is now pretty much housebound. She said she hasn't watched or read any news since her diagnosis since she doesn't have the energy to deal with her hair on fire anymore. She said she thinks of her grey-box friends often with fondness.

Please keep praying for her. She and the Rev will be married ten years in July if I'm not mistaken. I know your prayers are a source of great comfort to her.

Posted by: bluebell at June 20, 2026 08:04 AM (afFes)

8 So happy to hear that San Franpsycho will be a grand-papa. How delightful.

Posted by: bluebell at June 20, 2026 08:05 AM (afFes)

9 Teresa in Fort Worth sent word that her cancer marker numbers continue to go down, which should mean that the treatments are still working.

Posted by: Annies Stew at June 20, 2026 08:07 AM (dNIAD)

10 Thanks for the Grammie Winger update, bluebell. Prayers continuing for her and all of the Horde.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 20, 2026 08:10 AM (zC76q)

11 Good morning all!

Local headline:

Man attacked by bear while riding a bike, authorities say


I'm assuming a circus bear.

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 20, 2026 08:11 AM (qgHp7)

12 “ You, God, are my God, earnestly I seek you; I thirst for you, my whole being longs for you, in a dry and parched land where there is no water.”

Psalm 63:1

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2026 08:13 AM (Uh88k)

13 Hello, Muldoon. Long time no see. I'm glad to see you're still delighting us with your humor. Still writing limericks, I hope?

Posted by: bluebell at June 20, 2026 08:14 AM (afFes)

14 “ The Lord your God is with you, the Mighty Warrior who saves. He will take great delight in you; in his love he will no longer rebuke you, but will rejoice over you with singing.”

Zephaniah 3:17

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2026 08:15 AM (Uh88k)

15 Good Saturday morning, horde. Prayers for all.

Thanks for all who have prayed for Lisa. She has been allowed to go home for hospice care. Cancer has metastasized throughout her body; looks like this is the end for her.



Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2026 08:15 AM (h7ZuX)

16 Glory to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen

St. Silverius, Pope and martyr, pray of us.

***

I have prayed Rosaries for the Horde's intentions, both stated and unstated.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:15 AM (ksbjf)

17 I have prayed Rosaries for the Horde's intentions, both stated and unstated.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:15 AM (ksbjf)
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I always love seeing this. Thank you.

Posted by: bluebell at June 20, 2026 08:17 AM (afFes)

18 6 Buzzion asked for prayers for Christina, who is still struggling with drug addiction and is in jail again. Please pray for a true wake up call to get through to her, even if it requires her to stay in jail.
Posted by: Annies Stew at June 20, 2026 08:04 AM (dNIAD)

Prayers for Christina, and Tonypete's friend Cheri, and all those who self-destruct. May the Lord be merciful and lift them from their despair.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2026 08:18 AM (h7ZuX)

19 Do not be troubled. Do not despair. He is with you, always.

Prayers out to those in need. May God comfort you.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2026 08:20 AM (Uh88k)

20 Tech Thread> Amazon drops unflattering Sam Altman biopic for $50B investment + $38B services deal w/ OpenAI

I love the public aspects of high stakes negotiations - totally different level of tactics than haggling on a used car.

Posted by: Community Notes at June 20, 2026 08:21 AM (a4flb)

21 I have prayed Rosaries for the Horde's intentions, both stated and unstated.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:15 AM (ksbjf)
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I always love seeing this. Thank you.
Posted by: bluebell at June 20, 2026 08:17 AM (afFes)


You're welcome, I just want the Horde to know that I am intentionally lifting them up in prayer. I always petition that their suffering be lifted-up as a sacrifice in common with Christ's sacrifice upon the Holy Cross.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:24 AM (ksbjf)

22 Inspector is still in the hospital. They're working on getting his strength up so it's safe for him to go home. He's more alert and focused than when he was admitted and has been able to eat multiple full meals, which is both an improvement and will help him continue to improve.

Prayers that he be fully healed and able to return to work would be much appreciated.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 20, 2026 08:26 AM (9Pag4)

23 - Thanks for {{{grammie}}} update!!

Always a joy from my earliest times here, when she was mama.
May our always good Lord keep the rest of her "skinsuit" time pain free and well cared for.
When that time is passed, she will immediately be in His loving arms.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 08:26 AM (5gyQ/)

24 Still writing limericks, I hope?

*******

Hi back, bluebell. Thanks for the grammie wiger update. I still do limericks, but the thrill is gone, my heart isn't really into it. I did use a limerick for my outgoing voicemail message. It seems to have cut down on junk calls.

"There once was a man named Malone
Who just couldn't come to the phone
So if you're not a scammer,
a jammer or a spammer,
Please leave a message at the tone.

Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 20, 2026 08:26 AM (qgHp7)

25
Good morning everyone. Smash is sweating and working out at black belt camp in Booneville, MS and I've eight local to Booneville Duval war sites and markers to go tour on the motorcycle. A quick prayer for the other drivers on the road that they stay alert and don't hit me would be very appreciated.

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 20, 2026 08:27 AM (M1QYt)

26 Polliwog, I haven't been around much but I did briefly catch the other day that your husband was in the hospital. I'm glad to hear that he is improving and I hope he comes home soon.

Posted by: bluebell at June 20, 2026 08:27 AM (afFes)

27 Spent all of yesterday working on bash scripts and neovim configs.

I mean what else are you going to do on your day off and you got a bad foot?

As a goof I made a neovim config that emulates Wordstar.

I also threw in the functions to write screenplays.

I have always had a couple of ideas for movies, one of them is for a courtroom drama after the events of Jaws where Mrs. Kitner sues the town of Amity for the wrongful death of Alex.

It gets into the psychology of Larry and why he was determined to keep the Summer Money flowing at any cost.

Also explores the reasons Brody left NYC as well as gets into the lore of Quint and into the backstory of Hooper and just explores Amity in general and the dark underbelly of the quaint New England town.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 08:28 AM (XV/Pl)

28 Love it, Muldoon!

Posted by: bluebell at June 20, 2026 08:28 AM (afFes)

29
Nah! Autocucomber, you despise me so.

Civil War


I did the Shilo battlefield last year.

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 20, 2026 08:30 AM (M1QYt)

30
Any spare thoughts you have, my sister M. is dealing with not only her husband D.'s rapid decline from Alzheimer's but also supervising the care of her autistic son C. I think (and I hope) she's looking at memory care for D. She looked rather haggard and worn out at our reunion last week.

Also, for my nephew L., who is housebound with chronic and severe depression.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 08:31 AM (O0L8i)

31 Thank you for the Grammie update Bluebell.

Lol, Muldoon.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 20, 2026 08:31 AM (9Pag4)

32 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.  As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, forever.  Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.  Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.  Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 08:33 AM (ZOv7s)

33 Do not be troubled. Do not despair. He is with you, always.

Prayers out to those in need. May God comfort you.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 20, 2026 08:20 AM (Uh88k)


Amen.

Jesus, I trust in You.

***

Marcus T, I seem to recall that you had been at the "pointy end of the spear" when you were in the military. You are always a great preacher of the Good News.

I find it intriguing that those of us that seen suffering and violent death, but have accepted Jesus as our Lord and Savior, take the craziness of the world pretty calmly.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:34 AM (ksbjf)

34 Prayers that he be fully healed and able to return to work would be much appreciated.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 20, 2026 08:26 AM (9Pag4)

Absolutely. Prayers ascending.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2026 08:34 AM (h7ZuX)

35 Morning again, caffeinators,

I have to do without coffee first thing Monday morning. The clinic will draw some blood at 8 am, so no coffee and no food after midnight the night before. Horrors.

Probably I'll stay up later on Sunday, eat a bit around 10:30, and sleep as late as I can before running to the clinic. Afterward I'll stop at a favorite diner for the black juice and some real food.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 08:35 AM (wzUl9)

36
I told my sister's other son B. how much I admired him for turning out to be such a solid citizen despite his mother being tied up with taking care of his autistic brother. It could not have been easy for him but he's a truly fine fellow.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 08:39 AM (O0L8i)

37 I did the Shilo battlefield last year.

You never did the Kenosha kid.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 08:40 AM (Kt19C)

38
Washing dogs today. Huzzah.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 08:40 AM (O0L8i)

39
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 20, 2026 08:46 AM (AMvSw)

40 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:46 AM (Ia/+0)

41 Mornin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 08:48 AM (77rzZ)

42 - **sigh**

Looks like it's our turn again. 70-80 mph winds. Possible tornadoes. And to make matters worse,,, late at night.
And I need to haul off brush I got cut off the downed limbs I cut up at the widow's place yesterday.
Guess I'll wait till tomorrow to clean up the half of my yard that's there from the last go round.
Others have had it worse.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 08:48 AM (5gyQ/)

43 Best wishes and positive vibes to all who are in distress this day.

Tomorrow is Summer.

Posted by: Don Black at June 20, 2026 08:49 AM (MWGxi)

44 Had a very successful scrap trip, next a FWP, my garage door is broken, can't open or close it

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:50 AM (Ia/+0)

45 Is there an uglier building anywhere than the Bamster library?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2026 08:50 AM (TA/+K)

46 I find it intriguing that those of us that seen suffering and violent death, but have accepted Jesus as our Lord and Savior, take the craziness of the world pretty calmly.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 08:34 AM (ksbjf)

Peter 3:15

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 08:52 AM (KC5Lt)

47 Good morning Hordelings. Appreciate the prayers for my mom over the past several months. She is at rest now for eternity.

I'm heading down to the MoMe now. Hope to see many of you there!

Posted by: Doof at June 20, 2026 08:53 AM (idrXH)

48 May the Lord bless all the Horde, and ease our burdens. Incline our hearts according to God's will, and speed our steps along His way.

Praise the Lord all ye nations.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 08:54 AM (DoBxX)

49 - @45

I still say that building reminds me of him with his nose in the air while speaking down to us plebes.
Prayers for his salvation.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 08:55 AM (5gyQ/)

50 Prayers for all.

Posted by: Mick at June 20, 2026 08:55 AM (qMwGq)

51 Week in Pictures had some good memes on that collosal tower.
.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)

52 Refresh my memory, folks. When does the MoMe start?

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 08:59 AM (77rzZ)

53 Nothing worse than an ignorant narcissist. I can't think of anyone who fits that description more than Obama.

I thought we were rid of him but the stupid library put focus on him again. Can't wait until the library is a non-story.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 08:59 AM (KC5Lt)

54 Teej you know, prayers are not needed for Godless Marxists, God can sort them by himself

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0)

55 Tomorrow the grandkids will be baptized. I'm surprised and very pleased. My oldest has had a conflicted relationship with the Church, a classic case of a kid conforming when necessary, but once freed of any discipline, goes her own way. We did better with her sisters.

I think that was because I applied my experience with organized religion and once they got to high school, I backed off, leaving them to their own desires but always keeping the door open. I realized I was creating resistance through my actions.

Perhaps the decisive factor was my pushing the parish preschool and paying the full tuition for the first year. Emma flourished, and my daughter saw that. Given all that she had been through, it was amazing. So naturally she got to say and her brother followed. As First Communion approaches, their mother relented, and I think her faith is growing in response to theirs.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:01 AM (ZOv7s)

56 Heading off to the The NoVAMoMe shortly, but before I go:

Prayers up for all who have asked for them,
and
prayers up for those of us that haven't asked but still need them!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 20, 2026 09:02 AM (hOUT3)

57 MoMe starts as soon as the second Hordeling arrives

Posted by: Doof at June 20, 2026 09:02 AM (idrXH)

58 Bluebell, please let grammie winger know I am praying for her.
If she is so inclined, I suggest listening to sung lauds & vespers prayers (on youtube or spotify etc) as very mentally relaxing and uplifting. Search for Sing The Hours by Peter Rose

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:03 AM (znREB)

59 Prayers up for our maroons traveling to the MoMee. May their travels be swift and smooth, and may they make bail.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 09:03 AM (kpS4V)

60 52
Yo Bulg
Rumor has it starting at 1100!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 20, 2026 09:03 AM (hOUT3)

61 We'll have a nice gathering tomorrow. My mother will make a rare appearance, as will her brother, a Vietnam combat veteran with a lifetime of issues from the harrowing experience of Tet '68. Afterwards I'll set out some light refreshments at home (got to get busy with the cleanup and prep!) and on Monday I'll take the little ones over to see Great-Granpa. A full weekend to be sure, and a blessed one as well.

God be praised!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:03 AM (ZOv7s)

62
Teej you know, prayers are not needed for Godless Marxists, God can sort them by himself
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0)


I always ask for the conversion of sinners and non-believers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 09:04 AM (O0L8i)

63 may they make bail.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 09:03 AM (kpS4V)


Especially after that last embarrassing incident!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 20, 2026 09:05 AM (hOUT3)

64 MisHum thank you for the weekly coffee thread, that's basically me in the pic,
Sad news I dropped & broke my favorite coffee mug last night. Good thing it was empty so no coffee was wasted.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:05 AM (znREB)

65 Good morning Horde, prayers are offered for all in need.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 09:05 AM (0nHVk)

66 Especially after that last embarrassing incident!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NoVA MoMe in Virginia, Yes ~ at June 20, 2026 09:05 AM (hOUT3)

You'll have to be more specific!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 20, 2026 09:06 AM (kpS4V)

67 - Skip

Matt 5:43-48

Much easier to follow when you understand that salvation is not the result of anything we have done.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 09:06 AM (5gyQ/)

68 My wife is trying to explain away on how that monument to Barack I is a great piece of architecture, believing the vegetable garden and spaces to bring the community together.

Is it to early to start drinking yet?

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:07 AM (Ia/+0)

69 A torsion spring on my garage door opener broke a few years ago. Went online to Home Depot and ordered a replacement pair (replace the "good" one at the same time). Free shipping. I recall paying something like $70.

There are great youtube videos available. Took the laptop into the garage and followed it, pausing the video between steps. Worked out great.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:08 AM (qFwJc)

70 All y'all going to the MoMe be sure to compliment bluebell on her new neck tattoo.

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 09:11 AM (ei1sX)

71 Teej you know, prayers are not needed for Godless Marxists, God can sort them by himself
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0)
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They are the ones most in need of conversion and their salvation brings extra joy in heaven.

God laments the loss of every soul. We should do the same. How glorious would it have been if Fidel Castro had accepted Christ on his deathbed? I know some people thing celebrities starting to find religion is fake or opportunistic, and sometimes it is, but often playing the role changes the person in ways they did not expect.

And yes, I was once obnoxiously anti-religious, though never a Marxist. The prayers of my grandparents paid off, though. My father, who is still a skeptic (he identifies as Unitarian) is really bemused at how he ended up being surrounded by Catholic descendants.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:11 AM (ZOv7s)

72 - Gotta get breakfast.
Lord, please give me the strength and endurance for the chores ahead. And the wisdom to do em right.
In Jesus' name I ask

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 09:11 AM (5gyQ/)

73 In that case, the motor etc. of the opener was fine. Without the springs, the door is just too heavy. Yeah, a double size door for a two-car garage.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:12 AM (qFwJc)

74 15 Good Saturday morning, horde. Prayers for all.

Thanks for all who have prayed for Lisa. She has been allowed to go home for hospice care. Cancer has metastasized throughout her body; looks like this is the end for her.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2026 08:15 AM (h7ZuX)


I am so sorry to hear this - we had a nice conversation on the phone. She and her family will be in our family's prayers. 💔💔💔

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 20, 2026 09:12 AM (SRRAx)

75 Is it to early to start drinking yet?
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:07 AM (Ia/+0)
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It's five o'clock somewhere!

It's acceptable to have Irish coffee at this time of day. Around 11 Mimosas can be served. Noon is the traditional dividing line.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:13 AM (ZOv7s)

76 Other Horde pilots may find this ASOS report at Cecil Airport in Jacksonville, FL yesterday as amusing I did:

Jacksonville - Cecil Field,FL (VQQ) KVQQ 191832Z 36018G235KT 1SM TSRA OVC002 23/22 A3005 RMK TSB32

Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 09:13 AM (J4Dwc)

77 I have Huguenot ancestors. I laugh at how many of their descendants are Catholic.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:14 AM (qFwJc)

78 Good morning, Debby! Hope your week went well!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 09:15 AM (FMtrg)

79 A huge Thank You to bluebell and Weasel for hosting another amazing NoVaMoMe.

You both are the best !!!

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 09:15 AM (afJtY)

80 Eatig a late breakfast being forced to listen to Barky's flowerey speech

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:15 AM (Ia/+0)

81 In that case, the motor etc. of the opener was fine. Without the springs, the door is just too heavy. Yeah, a double size door for a two-car garage.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:12 AM (qFwJc)
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I've had this happen twice. Our door uses a single very powerful spring and I have a professional replace it. It took a decade for the first one to go, much less time for the second. I asked why and the tech said that all springs wear out and the more you use them, the faster that happens. He noted that he does a lot of business in my neighborhood because people treat the garage as an entry door.

I put a stop to that, and we now open and close it for vehicles, not just to go for a walk. That's what the front door is for.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)

82 Is there an uglier building anywhere than the Bamster library?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 20, 2026 08:50 AM


*Boston City Hall has entered the chat*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 20, 2026 09:17 AM (zC76q)

83 Eatig a late breakfast being forced to listen to Barky's flowerey speech
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:15 AM (Ia/+0)

Ear plugs ?

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2026 09:18 AM (GD0B3)

84 Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!

May God continue to bless all of His children this day.

And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.

Happy Father's Day, y'all!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at June 20, 2026 09:18 AM (D/6p1)

85 I have Huguenot ancestors. I laugh at how many of their descendants are Catholic.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 09:14 AM (qFwJc)
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My father's family is Protestant, and I was conspicuous for refusing to go to church growing up, following the lead of my father.

There's a certain amusement that I now lead the Catholic branch of the family, which is conspicuous at reunions when we cross ourselves when grace is being said before the meals.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:19 AM (ZOv7s)

86 Teej you know, prayers are not needed for Godless Marxists, God can sort them by himself
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0)


I disagree. As Christians, agape', requires us to "desire the good" for our neighbors. What is the ultimate good? To go to Heaven.

So, I pray for the collectivists (and Democrats) that they come to realize that they are motivated by the Deadly Sins, repent, perform acts of contrition, and thus save their immortal souls.

God is the just judge.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:20 AM (ksbjf)

87 I am so sorry to hear this - we had a nice conversation on the phone. She and her family will be in our family's prayers. 💔💔💔
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 20, 2026 09:12 AM (SRRAx)

Thank you so much. We appreciate your positivity and support--you are a wealth of information and resources! This was just found too late.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2026 09:20 AM (h7ZuX)

88 I know folks of a certain age were noticing how little hoopla there was for the 250th vs the Bicentennial, but going to the store yesterday I saw huge amounts of patriotic packaging and "250" branded stuff. All the beer and a bunch of the whiskey is commemorative and decorations are piling up.

I think this is going to drive a cultural shift and make patriotism a thing again. While there are lots of pride flags, I'm seeing an unusual number of homes flying Old Glory as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)

89 Polliwog, I saw your greeting a few days ago but by the time I managed to type a reply the thread was dead. Thank you for the hug.

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 09:21 AM (80oeU)

90 I do have a garage door problem, better go see what's going on

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:21 AM (Ia/+0)

91 Prayer thread related. This year I started keeping a work journal on my computer instrad of on paper.

On the work journal I name each page for a saint's feastday, for example : "Feast of St Lutgardis June 16." This requires me to look up who the saint is for the day before I start my actual work, putting me in a good frame of mind.

Also it feeds my history-curious mind.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:22 AM (DoBxX)

92 *Boston City Hall has entered the chat*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 20, 2026 09:17 AM (zC76q)

*quick image search

Oh, my...that is awful.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2026 09:23 AM (h7ZuX)

93 11

Local headline:

Man attacked by bear while riding a bike, authorities say


I'm assuming a circus bear.
Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 20, 2026 08:11 AM (qgHp7)

; )

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 09:23 AM (6wpGE)

94 Eatig a late breakfast being forced to listen to Barky's flowerey speech
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:15 AM (Ia/+0)

Obama is talking about flowers?

Posted by: dantesed at June 20, 2026 09:23 AM (Oy/m2)

95 On the work journal I name each page for a saint's feastday, for example : "Feast of St Lutgardis June 16." This requires me to look up who the saint is for the day before I start my actual work, putting me in a good frame of mind.

Also it feeds my history-curious mind.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:22 AM (DoBxX)
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I love the liturgical calendar. It really adds depth to each day. I am subscribed to Aleteia, and every day I get an email with news and also the Saint of the Day. It's a great way to maintain perspective and experience time with faith at the center.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

96 The Reagan Presidential Library is probably the coolest because it has an Air Force pavilion Has the AF 1 plane he flew in, Marine One , F-117 and F-14 Tomcat.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:25 AM (KC5Lt)

97 Obama is talking about flowers?
Posted by: dantesed at June 20, 2026 09:23 AM (Oy/m2)
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I thought he was more into starfish.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

98 Posted by: muldoon, they're my dad's jokes, don't blame me! at June 20, 2026 08:26 AM (qgHp7)

That's a fantastic voicemail greeting. Wow.
I hope your joy of rhyming returns - it's a genius level talent. Probably some R&R might help.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:26 AM (DoBxX)

99 Yay! Creeper's here!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 09:26 AM (FMtrg)

100 I disagree. As Christians, agape', requires us to "desire the good" for our neighbors. What is the ultimate good? To go to Heaven.

So, I pray for the collectivists (and Democrats) that they come to realize that they are motivated by the Deadly Sins, repent, perform acts of contrition, and thus save their immortal souls.

God is the just judge.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:20 AM (ksbjf)

I have mixed feelings about this. I think you’re probably right but on the other hand, the Psalms (for instance) are full of sentiments like the following (26:5)…

I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.

So we hate them and won’t sit with them (ie have relationships) but on the other hand we should pray for their good? I’ll pray for their repentance, yes…. But that’s where it ends. I also pray for their destruction, as does the Psalmist many times…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:26 AM (ugElV)

101 Barky has always talked with flowery speech, you need to decipher what Marxism is trying to tell you, then see it in reverse.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:27 AM (Ia/+0)

102 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 20, 2026 09:28 AM (NyXeV)

103 It's acceptable to have Irish coffee at this time of day. Around 11 Mimosas can be served. Noon is the traditional dividing line.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author
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The morning draught was a thing for quite a while. From what I've read, everybody used to be half drunk in the morning in the late 18th, early 19th centuries.

Posted by: Boswell's Johnson at June 20, 2026 09:29 AM (XvL8K)

104 I think this is going to drive a cultural shift and make patriotism a thing again. While there are lots of pride flags, I'm seeing an unusual number of homes flying Old Glory as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)


Yes, this. Wasn't there a recent poll in which something like only 29% of Democrats were proud to be Americans?

I've been flying the Betsy Ross flag ever since the Obama administration and the effort to "cancel" that flag. I just recently ordered a replacement and noticed that there is a version with "250" in the center of the constellation of stars.

Lots of my neighbors fly the American flag. Of course, lots of us either support or work at the nearby Air Force base. So, a rather self-selecting sample set.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:29 AM (ksbjf)

105 The Kennedy Library looks like the Rock and Roll HoF. Or vice versa technically

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:29 AM (KC5Lt)

106 I love the liturgical calendar. It really adds depth to each day.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Exactly.

Oh there's a digital artist I saw via X who sells a print of his interpretation of the liturgical cycle. Kinda pricey but cool. Let me see if I can gind it to show you.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:29 AM (DoBxX)

107 Hello creeper!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:31 AM (DoBxX)

108 So we hate them and won’t sit with them (ie have relationships) but on the other hand we should pray for their good? I’ll pray for their repentance, yes…. But that’s where it ends. I also pray for their destruction, as does the Psalmist many times…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:26 AM (ugElV)
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Those that do not repent will get what they deserve. And many will not repent. Universal salvation is a vile heresy.

But there are also many examples of sinners repenting and being welcomed with joy. Saul of Tarsus for one.

We pray for their conversion, not for leniency in their punishment. That's the problem that "nice" Christianity suffers from. They offer mercy for the unrepentant, denying justice to the faithful. We call it virtue signaling today but it used to be known as "cheap grace." Same thing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:31 AM (ZOv7s)

109 So, I pray for the collectivists (and Democrats) that they come to realize that they are motivated by the Deadly Sins, repent, perform acts of contrition, and thus save their immortal souls.

God is the just judge.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:20 AM (ksbjf)

I have mixed feelings about this. I think you’re probably right but on the other hand, the Psalms (for instance) are full of sentiments like the following (26:5)…

I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.

So we hate them and won’t sit with them (ie have relationships) but on the other hand we should pray for their good? I’ll pray for their repentance, yes…. But that’s where it ends. I also pray for their destruction, as does the Psalmist many times…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:26 AM (ugElV)


I had a conversation with my confessor about this. Father advised that sometimes punishment is necessary, but praying for their repentance does not mean that you tolerate their evil.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:31 AM (ksbjf)

110 I like the Carter library which has a miniature reflecting pool.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:31 AM (KC5Lt)

111 *quick image search

Oh, my...that is awful.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 20, 2026 09:23 AM


Only the finest in commie brutalist architecture for the People's Republic, comrade!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 20, 2026 09:32 AM (zC76q)

112 4 I am grateful for Wawa's cinnamon churro coffee

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To put it in meme form:

The West Coast mind cannot comprehend the goodness of Wawa.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 09:32 AM (DoBxX)

113 {Emmie}! Please hug your Music Man for me, too.

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 09:32 AM (80oeU)

114 45 Is there an uglier building anywhere than the Bamster library?

LOL
Bamster Building

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 09:32 AM (6wpGE)

115 What an incredible day yesterday! It was great to hear a REAL President speak again. I wish Obama wore his tan suit! Miss him so much !

At the ceremony yesterday there were so many men in the audience wearing tan suits. Lol! Kind of like giving the pearl clutchers the middle finger and having fun with it. Colbert, to name but one

the opening ceremony was so relaxing, stress free, bp went back down a few hours of pride and hope!

I wish he and Michelle hadn't spent so much time revitalize George Bush's image, again by inviting him to the ceremony. He appointed 2 of the Justice who dismantled the VRA and Civil Rights in general.

he invited all past presidents, and the thought is (until recently) you can be amicable with the other side and be a president for ALL people.
W sucked. He stole his election (thanks Roger stone!), hypocritically banned stem cells, continued Reagan's dismantling of the public school system with "no child left behind" and of course started our forever wars to like his and Chemey's pockets.
In comparison to today's standards, though, he's a fucking saint.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (ycI94)

116 I think it's a good practice to pray for the enemies of truth. It helps to improve the attitude of the petitioner and it's glorious to see God's grace in action if and when He saves them.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (FMtrg)

117 I always pray for a road to Damascus conversion for my evil enemies and forgiveness for what I want to do to them in the interim.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (KC5Lt)

118 Lots of my neighbors fly the American flag. Of course, lots of us either support or work at the nearby Air Force base. So, a rather self-selecting sample set.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:29 AM (ksbjf)
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A family across the circle was flying the Betsy Ross flag under Biden, and then switched to Old Glory when Trump took office. I don't have a flag pole, I hang the flag from the porch ceiling and I'll fly the Welsh flag on St. David's Day and the modern "four county" Irish flag on St. Patrick's.

In October, I raise the Hospitaller flag and keep it up through Halloween. I'm sure no one knows what to make of it, but it looks great.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (ZOv7s)

119 Creeper, I will!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (FMtrg)

120 Hey, vmom. If you could send me a pic of the shards of your mug I'll see if I can find it online. I'm me8437 at the Gmail place.

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (80oeU)

121 "me " being creeper.

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 09:35 AM (80oeU)

122 45 Is there an uglier building anywhere than the Bamster library?

LOL
Bamster Building
Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 09:32 AM (6wpGE)


I prefer calling it the Presidential Flak Tower.

One conspiracy theory that I came across (here at the HQ, as I recall) is that the building is actually intended to be a bunker to protect the Party elite from the zombie hordes.

A rejection of beauty, one of God's transcendental characteristics, is a sure sign of a rejection of God.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:36 AM (ksbjf)

123 Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (ycI94)

You always make me have to double up on my forgiveness prayers.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:36 AM (KC5Lt)

124 Waves to Teej.

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 09:37 AM (80oeU)

125 This 250th birthday for America thing really snuck up on me…. the Day is only 15 days away all of the sudden! Yeah I was a kid in 1976 and I remember tons of hoopla and parades etc… I feels more muted this year but maybe the actual day will be a big THING…. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that I have clear memories from… 50 years ago!! How can that be??? Well everyone gets old eventually even Dick Clark… I wasn’t immune

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:37 AM (26GAh)

126 Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (KC5Lt

I think those prayers for enemies are very important .sometimes I forget to pray for them ( leftists ) for conversion. and just pray for their downfall. So that to you and Hadrian for those reminders .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 09:38 AM (OYsYV)

127 I'm always amazed at the stories lefties tell themselves about the other side. Like we care about tan suits and would perceive them as a middle finger.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 09:39 AM (FMtrg)

128 Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (FMtrg)

Wonderful!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 09:39 AM (OYsYV)

129 by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 09:38 AM (OYsYV)

Meant "thanks to you."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 09:40 AM (OYsYV)

130 There is nothing quite as moving as listening to someone who had that Road to Damascus experience .

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:40 AM (KC5Lt)

131 The 0bamalith is the JEF's monument to himself. Trust me, that's how he sees it.

It is uglier than hammered sin, and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone thought it was a good idea.

Posted by: Don Black at June 20, 2026 09:41 AM (MWGxi)

132 I have good news, and this seems like the place to report it.

I have a blood condition which I share with Bulg---too much iron. Dangerous to the liver. Liver cancer is always out there. Has in the past required frequent blood donations, which my body hasn't handled well.

Last week I had my annual liver exam, and at the discussion 2 days later, my oncologist said that the rest of me may be getting older, but my liver appears to be getting YOUNGER!
Fatty deposits have disappeared, and as for liver cancer, he said, It's off the table! We won't even discuss it any more.

!!!!!

I've never asked for prayers, because I'm so lucky in so many ways, and I figure we're all included in all of them. But I offer thanks for God's grace in this.

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 09:42 AM (iIAkP)

133 That Reddit transmission above… wow, out of the blue the George W hate bares its ugly teeth. It’s been dormant for awhile but that was out in the open…

I always defended W when he was prez but the evolution of time… I can’t stand him now but I’m nowhere close to hating the guy.

Just to be controversial, I think it’s possible that if Al Gore had won in 2000 things might be overall a tad better now… I don’t think Gore would’ve gone all hardcore GWOT after 9/11…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:43 AM (26GAh)

134 The 0bamalith is the JEF's monument to himself. Trust me, that's how he sees it.

It is uglier than hammered sin, and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone thought it was a good idea.
Posted by: Don Black at June 20, 2026 09:41 AM (MWG

The engineer and architect admitted as much when they were defending it against the criticism. I don't think that was their intention.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:43 AM (KC5Lt)

135 51 Week in Pictures had some good memes on that collosal tower.
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Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)

Some really good ones.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 09:43 AM (6wpGE)

136 Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (ycI94)

You always make me have to double up on my forgiveness prayers.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:36 AM (KC5Lt)


LOL.

Mercy and forgiveness are absent in the "Party of Tolerance (tm)". It's almost as if they're Minions of Satan and Marxism is an inversion of Christianity that was inspired by Satan. (Read Paul Kangor's book, The Devil and Karl Marx -- it will blow your mind: Marx admitted to be influenced by demons!)

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:44 AM (ksbjf)

137 Wenda, great news! Praise the Lord

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:44 AM (26GAh)

138 I'm always amazed at the stories lefties tell themselves about the other side. Like we care about tan suits and would perceive them as a middle finger.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at June 20, 2026 09:39 AM (FMtrg)
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They are lost in their own world, fighting imaginary enemies and gaining glorious ephemeral victories against hobgoblins of their own creation.

I've hammered this point for a while, but these people are incapable of kinetic action. For all the talk of Civil War 2.0, there has to be an OPFOR for it to happen, and the arrests of Antifa activists are going to demonstrate how feeble their militias were, and also how small. They shifted their mentally ill shock troops from point to point to give the illusion of national presence, but that's all it was.

They do have some "minutemen" in places like Seattle and Portland, but they have no reach, and are basically only capable of destroying their own nests.

The Overton Window is shifting in terms of popular perception, a fruit of Trump holding back and letting these nuts do their thing. After 18 months of fraud reports, shockingly large amounts of corruption, no one is caring much about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:44 AM (ZOv7s)

139 Good morning all
Drinking my second cup of coffee and about to get ready for the MoMe. Have decided to take an Uber so I don't have to figure out how to drive there.
I am looking forward to giving and getting hugs in person but for,those of you who can't be here, know that I think of you often. This thread is like weekly family reunion. Wouldn't miss it for the world.
Have a good day. Touch grass. It helps.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2026 09:45 AM (kJmSS)

140 Good morning again Horde. Thx MisHum
Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need.
Nice two mile . Nice day out

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2026 09:45 AM (L9YhZ)

141 64 MisHum thank you for the weekly coffee thread, that's basically me in the pic,
Sad news I dropped & broke my favorite coffee mug last night. Good thing it was empty so no coffee was wasted.

; )

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 09:46 AM (6wpGE)

142 132 Hey, Wenda! Great News!

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 09:46 AM (77rzZ)

143 68 that monument to Barack I
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:07 AM (Ia/+0)

!!!

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 09:46 AM (6wpGE)

144 Newsome going to jail for tax evasion is going to be the perfect example.

This is why I'm relaxed about the midterms, and also Thune. Whatever he is, the SAVE Act continues to be a hot topic, and it's basically going to drive conservative turnout to presidential levels.

At the same time the massive, undeniable fraud in California is going to force SCOTUS to take action it would otherwise have avoided. Trump's EO on the USPS tracking ballots destroys the whole enterprise, but Trump waited until he had undeniable evidence before moving on it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:47 AM (ZOv7s)

145 he invited all past presidents, and the thought is (until recently) you can be amicable with the other side and be a president for ALL people.
W sucked. He stole his election
+++
Yeah. Obama was so amicable with us that we replaced him with Trump.
And also it sure is funny that biden's election couldn't possibly have been stolen. And you would have to be an idiot to believe that it was.
But W obviously stole his election.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at June 20, 2026 09:48 AM (Lo97M)

146 Well, y'all have a nice day. I don't have a garden, a pet, a hobby, and don't do deep dives on film directors. Peace Out.

Posted by: Don Black at June 20, 2026 09:48 AM (MWGxi)

147 The 0bamalith is the JEF's monument to himself. Trust me, that's how he sees it.

It is uglier than hammered sin, and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone thought it was a good idea.
Posted by: Don Black at June 20, 2026 09:41 AM (MWGxi)



The Tower Of OBabel?

It's fabulous!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 09:49 AM (iJfKG)

148 I always defended W when he was prez but the evolution of time… I can’t stand him now but I’m nowhere close to hating the guy.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:43 AM (26GAh)
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He's dead to me. An abject coward. We keep a campaign magnet on the fridge to remind us of our error.

He was arguably the least worst option, but he has much to answer for.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

149 Well, I've got a lot of work, so I'm off to do it. God be with you!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

150 In October, I raise the Hospitaller flag and keep it up through Halloween. I'm sure no one knows what to make of it, but it looks great.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I began collecting historical American flags to teach the Li'l Blutarskis history. I've dug them out and begun flying a different one every day. Today is the David Burnett flag which I think was the first official flag of the Republic of Texas. If not it was one of the first official flags. It not, it was an official flag of the Republic. It looks like the Somali flag except the star is gold.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 09:51 AM (l26NL)

151
Picked strawberries with the grandkids this morning, actually met a happy farmer who said the weather for all crops this spring was the best he ever saw.

Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2026 09:51 AM (Y8DZL)

152 That Reddit transmission above… wow, out of the blue the George W hate bares its ugly teeth. It’s been dormant for awhile but that was out in the open…

I always defended W when he was prez but the evolution of time… I can’t stand him now but I’m nowhere close to hating the guy.

Just to be controversial, I think it’s possible that if Al Gore had won in 2000 things might be overall a tad better now… I don’t think Gore would’ve gone all hardcore GWOT after 9/11…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:43 AM (26GAh)


I disagree. Gore would have been awful: there would have been even more navel-gazing about how America sucks and those 3000 Americans deserved to die.

W's mistake was trying to nation-build and create Jeffersonian democracies in societies unprepared for such a political form. Trump is showing the way: punitive expeditions intended to punish, break the enemies toys, then leave.

W set the stage for Obama, which set the stage for Trump I, which set the stage for Biden, which set the stage for Trump II.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 09:52 AM (ksbjf)

153 The Kennedy Library looks like the Rock and Roll HoF. Or vice versa technically

Both designed by I. M. Pei, whose major contribution to western civilization is more as a crossword puzzle answer than as an architect.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 09:52 AM (vTZFs)

154 Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 09:13 AM (J4Dwc)

Did you go? ;-)

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2026 09:52 AM (3Ope8)

155 Good morning good people. Prayers for all Hordian intentions - those requested and those known but to God.

Prayers for a (diagnosed) psychotic acquaintance. She is an absolute disaster and has destroyed all relationships of which she is a part.

I struggle with this one because of all the bombs she's dropped into everyone's lives and my first reaction is to want to punch her in the throat.

But I know she is sick, and prayer is much more proper than throat punches.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 09:53 AM (ItpVy)

156 I’ve seen a lot more homes with flags this spring/summer than usual.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 09:53 AM (7YTFo)

157 Morning, all. It's a beautiful sunny day here at Stately Poppins Manor. The humidity is low, the breezes are blowing and any rain is scheduled for 6 this evening. I wish I were on my way to the MoMe, but my own insecurities put paid to that.

I don't want to waste such a lovely day. I need to find something to do that isn't hiding in the house all day or going out and getting hammered. I have no desire to work on my book (depression has paralyzed me), I can't really walk downtown since the sodomites have taken it over for 'pride' day and I've already hit the closest used bookstores.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 09:54 AM (qRla/)

158 Without coffee, with no apparently motive, you’ll just kill and kill again. Survive your brutal thrashing? You’ll hunt them til the end. Your life’s a constant battle, the rage of many men. Homicidal MANIAC!!!

So you need coffee.

(H/t, Slayer)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 09:54 AM (T6aVk)

159 Touch grass. It helps.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

We adopted an older great dane/huskie cross 2 weeks ago. She had been in a rescue kennel for 3+ years, but in her photo online she looked like such a happy girl.
From the first day here she fell in love with the fenced in grass play area. She flops down and rolls on to her back so hard I fear she'll hurt herself!
Touch grass like it's the first time in 3 years!

Posted by: old chick at June 20, 2026 09:55 AM (F3Dlr)

160 Bush the boogeyman again. Sheesh.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:55 AM (KC5Lt)

161 150 In October, I raise the Hospitaller flag and keep it up through Halloween. I'm sure no one knows what to make of it, but it looks great.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I began collecting historical American flags to teach the Li'l Blutarskis history. I've dug them out and begun flying a different one every day. Today is the David Burnett flag which I think was the first official flag of the Republic of Texas. If not it was one of the first official flags. It not, it was an official flag of the Republic. It looks like the Somali flag except the star is gold.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 09:51 AM (l26NL)

I’d like to get a 49 star flag, available between 1959-1960 after AK was added to the union.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 09:56 AM (T6aVk)

162 “disagree. Gore would have been awful: there would have been even more navel-gazing about how America sucks and those 3000 Americans deserved to die.”

Gore wasn’t Obama.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 09:56 AM (7YTFo)

163 Bless you, Wenda.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 09:57 AM (6wpGE)

164 Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 09:52 AM (vTZFs)

No way. I did not know that.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:57 AM (KC5Lt)

165 Hitting on a subject mentioned above, according to my 1955 copy of Lives of the Saints, today is the feast day of St Silverius, pope and martyr, who died in 537, attacked on the road to Rome by agents of Byzantine Empress Theodora.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 09:58 AM (qRla/)

166 Wenda, no idea how you fixed that ( less red meat?) but keep going what your doing.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 09:58 AM (Ia/+0)

167
I don't hate W. I don't regret my vote for W.

Do I wish I'd had a better choice? Sure.

But, W was the least worst option, and being least worst doesn't mean good or great.

The Democrats have simply been a terrible choice for so long, I'd vote for a syphilitic tapir as long as it keeps the Democrats out of power.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 09:59 AM (iJfKG)

168 Gore or any other president would have gone into Afghanistan. Would it have turned into a 20 year stint? Who knows?

There would have been no Iraq with Gore and that’s a good thing.

There is a case to be made that gore wins 2000, he fucks shit up and loses in 2004. No Iraq war and probably, no Obama in 2008. Good outcome in that scenario.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 09:59 AM (7YTFo)

169 Just to be controversial, I think it’s possible that if Al Gore had won in 2000 things might be overall a tad better now… I don’t think Gore would’ve gone all hardcore GWOT after 9/11…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 09:43 AM (26GAh)

Hell no. Given his obsessive devotion is global warming, we’d be hip deep in poverty. (BTW, what were we supposed to do after 9/11/01? Pout and whine?)

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 10:00 AM (T6aVk)

170 147
The Tower Of OBabel?
It's fabulous!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 09:49 AM (iJfKG)

haha

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 10:00 AM (6wpGE)

171 There would have been no Iraq with Gore and that’s a good thing.

There is a case to be made that gore wins 2000, he fucks shit up and loses in 2004. No Iraq war and probably, no Obama in 2008. Good outcome in that scenario.
Posted by: Heroq

If only one could go back and assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary we could have avoided that whole mess.

Oh, wait. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:02 AM (ItpVy)

172 I wonder how many foreign soccer fan visitors are going to overstay their visas?

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 10:03 AM (KC5Lt)

173 Bush the boogeyman again. Sheesh.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:55 AM (KC5Lt)


I don't think W is going to be looked at kindly by history. A middling POTUS that had nothing to say during Obama's reign of error or Biden flooding America with millions of illegal aliens.

BUT, he was all too eager to talk $h!t about Pres. Trump. Curiously, that stopped after that letter was delivered at his dad's funeral.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 10:03 AM (ksbjf)

174 Gore would have been the King Charles III of America. Genial, peaceful sounding, totally devoted to “multiculturalism” and the civilization ending Global Warming Cult.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:03 AM (8YGuO)

175 Mornin' Horde. Happy Father's Day to the Horde dads, grandpas, and great-grandpas! And Happy MoMe day to all the Hordelings descending upon NoVa! So sorry I couldn't make it.

Thanks for the grammie update. I know she knows how much we love and miss her.

Prayers for all y'all and your loved ones.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 10:03 AM (lOlUK)

176 Did you go? ;-)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2026 09:52 AM (3Ope

On the ILS to 36R, I got close, but a gust pushed me back to approximately Daytona.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 10:04 AM (J4Dwc)

177 It's been an expensive morning here. Had to take the cat to the vets. He's not eating or drinking any water. Thought he might have a bad tooth, or some sort of abscess in his mouth. But nope. No fever either. Several hundred dollars later we've got antibiotics and oral electrolytes.

And one cat hiding somewhere.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 10:04 AM (jehhT)

178 Hitting on a subject mentioned above, according to my 1955 copy of Lives of the Saints, today is the feast day of St Silverius, pope and martyr, who died in 537, attacked on the road to Rome by agents of Byzantine Empress Theodora.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 09:58 AM (qRla/)


Hi, MP4: I think we have the same book!

Well, have to go to run errands.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 10:05 AM (ksbjf)

179 Yeah. Obama was so amicable with us that we replaced him with Trump.
Posted by: Florida Peasant

It was a whitelash against a changing country. It was a whitelash against a black president, in part.

(Odd that the whitelash waited until after they reelected the president they hated so much before voting against him)

Posted by: Van Jones at June 20, 2026 10:05 AM (ycI94)

180 174 Gore ... and the civilization ending Global Warming Cult.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:03 AM (8YGuO)

Ramped up beyond even what we can imagine, I bet.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 10:05 AM (6wpGE)

181 @167. naturalfake

I agree with you. He wasn't great but beat the alternative.

Posted by: Case at June 20, 2026 10:06 AM (IY9No)

182 177 It's been an expensive morning here. Had to take the cat to the vets. He's not eating or drinking any water. Thought he might have a bad tooth, or some sort of abscess in his mouth. But nope. No fever either. Several hundred dollars later we've got antibiotics and oral electrolytes.

And one cat hiding somewhere.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 10:04 AM (jehhT)

Good kitty!

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 10:07 AM (6wpGE)

183
If Gore won, things would've been just peachy?

No. We have no way of knowing. Alternate history is stupid.

The Past is unchangeable. It's a lost and dead country.

The Present is all there is. The future lives in Hopeville.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 10:08 AM (iJfKG)

184 There would have been no Iraq with Gore and that’s a good thing.

There is a case to be made that gore wins 2000, he fucks shit up and loses in 2004. No Iraq war and probably, no Obama in 2008. Good outcome in that scenario.
Posted by: Heroq

If only one could go back and assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary we could have avoided that whole mess.

Oh, wait. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:02 AM (ItpVy)


Too bad that God's not outside of time and doesn't know our past, present and future.

It's a mystery, we just have to have trust that God is working the bad to some ultimate good.

***
With that, I really have to go.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 10:08 AM (ksbjf)

185 Doctors don’t know shit most of the time.
Vets don’t know shit all of the time.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 10:09 AM (7YTFo)

186 One thing about Al Gore… I shouldn’t be surprised but I am… him recently claiming all his predictions of catastrophe about global warming came true. Does he have no shame? He thinks we don’t have eyes??!! It’s like he looks me right in the eye and says 2 + 2 = 5 and thinks he’s convincing and expects me to believe him. Is he a psychopath?? Unbelievable…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 20, 2026 10:10 AM (ugElV)

187 The Present is all there is. The future lives in Hopeville.
Posted by: naturalfake

Hopeville is a dumb name. We don't have to hope...we can make it happen if we all work together and follow our simple plan! We should name it something more epic, like Utopia!

Posted by: Communism at June 20, 2026 10:10 AM (ycI94)

188 He wasn't great but beat the alternative.

He squandered the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be listed as one of the great Presidents. Although, admittedly, considering his background, his advisors and his partnerships in the Deep State, a capitulation to Islam and a turn to an American surveillance state was baked in the cake.

Frankly, I don't think even Reagan would have reacted to 9/11 with the proper actions.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 10:11 AM (qRla/)

189 “I don't think W is going to be looked at kindly by history. A middling POTUS that had nothing to say during Obama's reign of error or Biden flooding America with millions of illegal aliens.”

The Bush Family machine dominated GOP politics in Texas for over 30 years, from GWB’s election as Governor until quite recently. First sign it was over was George P. Bush getting taken out by Paxton in the AG race.

Which of course led to an impeachment of Paxton by the Bush machine led Texas House, which was squashed by the anti-Bush conservatives in the Texas Senate.

And that fight was really what the huge loss by Cornyn was all about. He was always a very loyal Bush machine member, but their days running things in Texas are over for good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:11 AM (8YGuO)

190 I think no Iraq = no Obama. There was so much hatred for bush and all things Republican because of Iraq which allowed a Muslim communist to win just by saying change.

Take Iraq away and I don’t think that happens.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 10:11 AM (7YTFo)

191 I touch grass every day when I pull it out of my garden. My garden has the nicest grass on the whole street. It is lush and thick and green and relentless.

Posted by: huerfano at June 20, 2026 10:11 AM (VJX5o)

192 We should name it something more epic, like Utopia!

Funny, that. I just finished An Assassin in Utopia, which is about Charles Guiteau and his murder of POTUS James Garfield, but also details Guiteau's connections to the free-love Oneida community. A pretty good read.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 10:13 AM (qRla/)

193 We were attacked on 9/11 by Muslims and what did bush do? Open door to millions of Muslim immigrants. Put everything aside he did and I hope he burns in hell for eternity just for that.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 10:13 AM (7YTFo)

194 (Odd that the whitelash waited until after they reelected the president they hated so much before voting against him)

Like a particularly dumb dog, Americans can learn but only after several smacks of the newspaper.*

* now that I think of it, what do you smack your dog's nose with these days, an iPad with a news site on the screen?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 10:13 AM (vTZFs)

195 Gore would have thrown people in jail for opposing his policies if he were President.

I forget who was his running mate at that time.

Posted by: dantesed at June 20, 2026 10:15 AM (Oy/m2)

196 But I offer thanks for God's grace in this.
Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 09:42 AM (iIAk

Great news, happy for you. God works in mysterious ways.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 20, 2026 10:16 AM (sl73Y)

197 We have thunder all around us this morning and man's forecast is 70%. But we know that GOD is the true and merciful provider of all things, and forecast is in His hands.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 10:17 AM (LHPAg)

198 * now that I think of it, what do you smack your dog's nose with these days, an iPad with a news site on the screen?
Posted by: Oddbob

My cock. Slathered in peanut butter.

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at June 20, 2026 10:18 AM (ycI94)

199 Gore would have thrown people in jail for opposing his policies if he were President.

I forget who was his running mate at that time.
Posted by: dantesed

Joe Lieberman. Thus the "Sore/Loserman" signs of the Bush partisans.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:18 AM (77rzZ)

200 Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 10:04 AM (J4Dwc)

Gonna go get a $50 cheeseburger at CWC later today

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2026 10:18 AM (3Ope8)

201 195 Gore would have thrown people in jail for opposing his policies if he were President.

I forget who was his running mate at that time.
Posted by: dantesed at June 20, 2026 10:15 AM (Oy/m2)
PeeWee Herman?

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 10:18 AM (LHPAg)

202 The 2000 election was the inflection point t when Dems went insane. Look at polls on patriotism. In 2000 the gap between reps and dems who said they were proud of their country was small. 90-80 something like that.

Now it’s 90-30. Bush Derangement Syndrome started it all. They lost their minds over the Florida recount and never recovered.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 10:18 AM (7YTFo)

203 I think no Iraq = no Obama. There was so much hatred for bush and all things Republican because of Iraq which allowed a Muslim communist to win just by saying change.

Take Iraq away and I don’t think that happens.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 10:11 AM (7YTFo)

W really F'd up the subprime mortgage crisis, too, while playing right into the hands about Rs paying off their crony capitalist buddies. What a loser.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 10:18 AM (dK+Kv)

204 Thought it was this weekend for Lucky Strikes movie to come out, its next week

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 10:19 AM (Ia/+0)

205 If I had won in 2000, I definitely would not have screwed up race relations like Obongo, Hell, I don't even like black folks, just like my Daddy.

I miss you Daddy!

Posted by: Al Gore, Rapist at June 20, 2026 10:19 AM (og9zY)

206 electrolytes

Brawndo!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 20, 2026 10:20 AM (Kt19C)

207 Guess I'm gonna go to the MoMe. I will undoubtedly make me feel better.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (77rzZ)

208 And that fight was really what the huge loss by Cornyn was all about. He was always a very loyal Bush machine member, but their days running things in Texas are over for good.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:11 AM (8YGuO)

They should try Connecticut or Massachusetts.

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (GD0B3)

209 One thing about Al Gore…

It’s like he looks me right in the eye and says 2 + 2 = 5 and thinks he’s convincing and expects me to believe him.


TBF to ManBearPig, he's not the one doing the math. He's just the one telling you what The Experts say two plus two equals because he believes* it. Which makes him stupid, not necessarily a psychopath.

* I guess. If he doesn't (which selling out to Qatar or UAE or whoever it was might suggest) then he's a soulless grifter but still not necessarily a psychopath.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (vTZFs)

210 Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 09:53 AM (ItpVy)

Except for the diagnosed part, this describes my ex. Narcissistic behavior disorder coupled with paranoia. That's my diagnosis after more than thirty years of observation. But I'm not a doctor, so what do I know?

Last week, Little got a call from an Inyo County sheriff to notify him that they dropped his mom off at a Catholic-run homeless shelter after finding her walking along a road in Death Valley. She had been living out of her car, so it seems she lost that recently.

I'm guessing they called him because her arrest for assaulting me a couple years ago took me off the next-of-kin list. We've made our peace with her choices years ago, and I'm sure our indifference will not be affected by her eventual passing. Best I can manage is to pray for God's current team of angels sent to reach her. She left so many others who extended amazing grace and charity in various states of brokeness and bitterness over the years.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (nbLIj)

211 I don't think W is going to be looked at kindly by history. A middling POTUS that had nothing to say during Obama's reign of error or Biden flooding America with millions of illegal aliens.

Sure, Bush was an idiot and did damage to the nation, but at least he respected democracy and was willing to compromise with democrats. Not like the Trump fascist!!

Posted by: Leftist Historians at June 20, 2026 10:22 AM (ycI94)

212 {{{Bulg}}}

Go to the MoMe. Get hugs. It is always good to be with the Horde.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 20, 2026 10:23 AM (lOlUK)

213 Guess I'm gonna go to the MoMe. I will undoubtedly make me feel better.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (77rzZ)


I'm sorry I won't have the chance to meet you, but there really was no way I was going to go this year. I almost certainly won't go to Texas, either.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 10:24 AM (qRla/)

214 I don't think W is going to be looked at kindly by history. A middling POTUS that had nothing to say during Obama's reign of error or Biden flooding America with millions of illegal aliens.

To paraphrase the famous saying, it depends on who writes the history.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 10:25 AM (qRla/)

215 I was fooled into believing bush was “fighting them there so they won’t fight us here”. Meanwhile he was importing million from there to here.

Fuck that guy.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 10:25 AM (7YTFo)

216 Bulg have a great time

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 10:25 AM (Ia/+0)

217 There’s a theory of history which maintains that if you changed all the people, a lot of minor things would change, but the same big things would still have happened, but for slightly different reasons.

You can take some of the rocks out of the river, but you can’t change the current, or the direction of the flow. Or the final destination.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:26 AM (8YGuO)

218 Screw the Bushes. They never should have been anywhere near the Presidency to begin with.

A bad pick by Reagan, but I guess it was either H.W. or Gerald Ford. Ford would have been worse as a VP, and always trying to run things, or backstabbing Reagan.

Just a pity that H.W. had to run for President, and won.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

219 Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (nbLIj)

I'm sorry, man.
Sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off with the government assigning us spouses at age 24 based on personality-profiles.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:26 AM (W0KIM)

220 Lucky Strikes movie.
It's got a Hanks, and an Eastwood in it. Trailer looks pretty good, problem is theater only. Ixnay on that.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 10:26 AM (LHPAg)

221 The Strawbs " Hero and Heroine" just popped up on the rotation

What a great album!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 10:27 AM (r64gj)

222 In 2000 the gap between reps and dems who said they were proud of their country was small. 90-80 something like that.

Now it’s 90-30. Bush Derangement Syndrome started it all. They lost their minds over the Florida recount and never recovered.
Posted by: Heroq

Actually, that poll (that CNN commented on) was taken in January 2001, so after SCOTUS "stole" the election, and Dems still generally loved the US. I think the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were part of the decline, some of Obama's race hustling, but mostly just the unhinged hatred of Trump. Trump's election broke a lot of people's brains.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 10:27 AM (ycI94)

223 Well, in 1988 Gary Hartpence could have got the nomination, if he'd tied down his own dick before the race.
Somehow that mattered in '88 and not in '92.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:28 AM (W0KIM)

224 I try and remember that all civil/government authority here on earth was put here by God for His purposes. We may not always like it or understand the reasoning, but we can trust the plan.

Posted by: AnchorPoint at June 20, 2026 10:28 AM (XY7MO)

225 I don't think W is going to be looked at kindly by history. A middling POTUS that had nothing to say during Obama's reign of error or Biden flooding America with millions of illegal aliens.

BUT, he was all too eager to talk $h!t about Pres. Trump. Curiously, that stopped after that letter was delivered at his dad's funeral.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 20, 2026 10:03 AM (ksbjf)

I think people forget what he did during his administration and exaggerate what he had to say about Trump. I'm not going to get into it again because people have made up their mind facts or no facts.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 10:28 AM (KC5Lt)

226 I'm sorry I won't have the chance to meet you, but there really was no way I was going to go this year. I almost certainly won't go to Texas, either.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Yes, I would like to meet you someday. I have two nieces who live in Beantown, so maybe if I ever go there to see them (unlikely, as I'm not close to either of them, but still...), you and I and RMBS can meet up.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:29 AM (77rzZ)

227 223 Well, in 1988 Gary Hartpence could have got the nomination, if he'd tied down his own dick before the race.
Somehow that mattered in '88 and not in '92.
Posted by: gKWVE

It mattered in 2008 😔

Posted by: John Edwards at June 20, 2026 10:29 AM (ycI94)

228 "TBF to ManBearPig, he's not the one doing the math. He's just the one telling you what The Experts say two plus two equals because he believes* it. Which makes him stupid, not necessarily a psychopath.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM"
++++


Remember, Jerry: it's not a lie if you believe it.

Posted by: George Costanza at June 20, 2026 10:30 AM (D2IX4)

229 I guess Gov Abigail the Creepy Doll's anti-2A laws haven't gone into effect yet?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 20, 2026 10:30 AM (cWLG3)

230 Skip re: changes in diet. I went from beef several times a week to several times a YEAR. And I'm a MT girl. Sob.

But I think the biggest change was not using sauces. Piper is of course the expert on this, but the more I read, the more it seemed that sauces were developed to draw iron out of meat and into the body's workings. Well, that's the opposite of what I needed.

Also my twin brother had the same blood condition. He had lots of medical problems, mostly related to weighing over 350 pounds. That's a lot, even for someone who's 6'6". But hemochromatosis was certainly involved in his death.

Knowing that certainly makes it easier to follow the rules.

Posted by: Wenda at June 20, 2026 10:30 AM (iIAkP)

231 >>> TBF to ManBearPig, he's not the one doing the math. He's just the one telling you what The Experts say two plus two equals because he believes* it. Which makes him stupid, not necessarily a psychopath.

* I guess. If he doesn't (which selling out to Qatar or UAE or whoever it was might suggest) then he's a soulless grifter but still not necessarily a psychopath.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (vTZFs)


He might be moderately dumb, in the way any other run of the mill criminal is dumb. A moral dumbness when they think "I found this great way to get paid that all the chumps haven't figured out yet." What I'm getting at is all of his BS is to gain wealth. It always was. And that meshes well with being a politician.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 20, 2026 10:30 AM (3uBP9)

232 “Except for the diagnosed part, this describes my ex. Narcissistic behavior disorder coupled with paranoia. That's my diagnosis after more than thirty years of observation. But I'm not a doctor, so what do I know?”

I’ve sadly had some experience with someone fitting that description, enough that I recognize it when I see it. And *real* paranoia - the kind that makes your eyes pop out when they start talking about what they’re thinking - is most of the time associated with some level of schizophrenia.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:31 AM (8YGuO)

233 This little light of mine
I'm going to let it shine

Kamala explains to Don Lemon the power of hope:

“I really, truly believe this. We we each have have light inside of us. And we need to know that that is what inspires our hope as much as anything external to ourselves. And when we feel that and and and not allow an election or an individual to dampen that light, and instead light, let that light kind of carry us in particular through moments of darkness, that that we not only act on that hope, but we inspire that hope in each other. And in particular, at this moment, it is so important that we not only have hope, but that we understand that that should be a verb."

https://tinyurl.com/mr63wnbz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:32 AM (ndZc7)

234 OddBob, I still whack the dogs with a newspaper...The Epoch Times. I didn't realize how much I use newspapers for other things besides reading until I didn't have one.

(Great substitute for cutting board, too.)

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 10:32 AM (80oeU)

235 Doctors don’t know shit most of the time.
Vets don’t know shit all of the time.
Posted by: Heroq

Minor quibble - Proctologists know shit.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2026 10:32 AM (ItpVy)

236 "Sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off with the government assigning us spouses at age 24 based on personality-profiles.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:26 AM"
----

In the immortal words of Clint Eastwood:

"Just find someone you hate and buy them a house."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 20, 2026 10:33 AM (D2IX4)

237 Actually, that poll (that CNN commented on) was taken in January 2001, so after SCOTUS "stole" the election, and Dems still generally loved the US. I think the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were part of the decline, some of Obama's race hustling, but mostly just the unhinged hatred of Trump. Trump's election broke a lot of people's brains.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 10:27 AM (ycI94)

Was it 2001? OK.

Iraq/Afghanistan was a big part of it. And it was on top of Selected Not Elected. People were mad at Iraq and were like the guy in change didn’t even win fair. It was a double whammy of anger.

I remember 2003/4 talking to people who were otherwise chill middle of the road politically. Or even apolitical. But were amped up on Iraq, like intensity of 1000 burning suns seething over it. The media of course poured gas over the fire, but the end result was people who in 2000/2001 would have said yeah I’m patriotic turned into fuck no America sucks man because of Bush/Iraq. And they never went back from it.

Posted by: Heroq at June 20, 2026 10:33 AM (7YTFo)

238 Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 10:32 AM (80oeU)

The Epoch Times is a great paper. Used to read it every day when it was distributed for free in DC.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:33 AM (77rzZ)

239 ....cardiologists seem to get to the heart of the matter...

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2026 10:33 AM (GD0B3)

240 There’s a theory of history which maintains that if you changed all the people, a lot of minor things would change, but the same big things would still have happened, but for slightly different reasons.

I picked up a book yesterday, The Lost History of 1914: Reconsidering the Year the Great War Began by Jack Beatty (who also wrote an excellent bio of Boston mayor James Michael Curley). He says much the same thing in his introduction. I'll have to mention it tomorrow if I find myself on the Book Thread.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 10:35 AM (qRla/)

241 The Democrats have simply been a terrible choice for so long, I'd vote for a syphilitic tapir as long as it keeps the Democrats out of power.
Posted by: naturalfake

This. A million times this.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 20, 2026 10:35 AM (sl73Y)

242 Trump's election broke a lot of people's brains.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 20, 2026 10:27 AM (ycI94)

Rejection will do that to people. The millennial mindset and all their ideologies were utterly repudiated. They were the ones they were waiting for, after all. Turns out, not.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 10:35 AM (dK+Kv)

243 I picked up a book yesterday, The Lost History of 1914: Reconsidering the Year the Great War Began by Jack Beatty (who also wrote an excellent bio of Boston mayor James Michael Curley). He says much the same thing in his introduction. I'll have to mention it tomorrow if I find myself on the Book Thread.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

I may have to get that. I can't get enough of the start of WWI. So many "what ifs?" to ponder.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:36 AM (77rzZ)

244
Kamala explains to Don Lemon the power of hope:

“I really, truly believe this. We we each have have light inside of us. And we need to know that that is what inspires our hope as much as anything external to ourselves. And when we feel that and and and not allow an election or an individual to dampen that light, and instead light, let that light kind of carry us in particular through moments of darkness, that that we not only act on that hope, but we inspire that hope in each other. And in particular, at this moment, it is so important that we not only have hope, but that we understand that that should be a verb."
So she's like a refrigerator.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 10:36 AM (LHPAg)

245 Hope everyone at the NoVaMoMe has a great time!

*Waves*

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 10:36 AM (1ieqq)

246 I really, truly believe this. We we each have have light inside of us. [Harris word salad ensues]

Mrs Emhoff, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:37 AM (W0KIM)

247 I think a boat would a better hate gift.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2026 10:37 AM (r64gj)

248 "syphilitic tapir"

LOL.

This place.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 20, 2026 10:37 AM (D2IX4)

249 233 This little light of mine
I'm going to let it shine

Kamala explains to Don Lemon the power of hope:

“I really, truly believe this. We we each have have light inside of us. And we need to know that that is what inspires our hope as much as anything external to ourselves. And when we feel that and and and not allow an election or an individual to dampen that light, and instead light, let that light kind of carry us in particular through moments of darkness, that that we not only act on that hope, but we inspire that hope in each other. And in particular, at this moment, it is so important that we not only have hope, but that we understand that that should be a verb."

https://tinyurl.com/mr63wnbz
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:32 AM (ndZc7)
---
GenAI looks like AGI next to that word salad shooter.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 20, 2026 10:37 AM (cWLG3)

250 The Bushes were Deep State, and got us into the Afghanistan sinkhole and twice had us neuter Iraq, Iran's arch foe.

Compare Reagan, who gave arms to both when they were in a shooting war with each other.

The Deep State now acts for its own good, not ours, which means they will often align with Globalists.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 20, 2026 10:37 AM (dtajH)

251 Millionaires who lived ln graft need hope

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 10:38 AM (Ia/+0)

252 One day you will see yellow school buses.
With your own eyes!

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at June 20, 2026 10:38 AM (D2IX4)

253 Well, I've had my tea, my pills and my cod liver oil. Guess I should shower, shave, dress and find something to do that isn't alcohol-related.

Which reminds me of an old Mother Goose and Grimm cartoon showing Woodsy the Owl sitting glumly at a bar with the caption "Sometimes, after a 'Save The Earth' rally, Woodsy would spend his evenings secretly getting polluted."

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 10:38 AM (qRla/)

254 Important health warning.

End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Dr. Frita says that Michelle Obama jokes are causing increased heart disease for blacks

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:38 AM (ndZc7)

255 Guess I'm gonna go to the MoMe. I will undoubtedly make me feel better.
Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:21 AM (77rzZ)

You will feel better.

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 10:39 AM (1ieqq)

256 Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Back at ya, MP4.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:40 AM (77rzZ)

257 Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 20, 2026 10:38 AM (qRla/)

I hope you have a lovely day too! You were a delight to talk to at the NoVaMoMes we both attended. And the best-dressed.

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 10:40 AM (1ieqq)

258 > Trump's election broke a lot of people's brains.
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They were conditioned with covid to be told what to do, what not to do, where to go, where not to go, etc.

Trump freed people's minds and some couldn't/can't deal with it. They've been effectively brainwashed. They are broken people and will never return to normalcy.

IMO this is the legacy of the covid op. Compliance at any cost.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 10:41 AM (jehhT)

259 @238. Bulg, what are you doing still here? You're supposed to be on the road to the MoMe?

Posted by: creeper at June 20, 2026 10:41 AM (80oeU)

260 Bulg, what are you doing still here? You're supposed to be on the road to the MoMe?
Posted by: creeper

I'll get there. Gotta shower first. Guess I'll go do that now.

Posted by: Bulg at June 20, 2026 10:42 AM (77rzZ)

261 On topic of WW1, I was rewatching "Westworld" lately (shut up, the first season is kino). When the machine gun comes out it really does make an impression.
I don't know if a more horrible weapon of war was ever invented up to then.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:42 AM (W0KIM)

262 So many lower class British girls were fundamentally violated. Muslims went medieval on them.

And then the Police coerced them into saying it never happened. How do these girls carry that Betrayal?

Raping a country's women with impunity is a time-honored way to subjugate a people. The Soviets did it to the Germans at the end of WWII. But you didn't see Germans telling the women that it was just their imagination.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 20, 2026 10:43 AM (dtajH)

263 Thanks, Jill Biden... for Kamala. Thanks a load.

Posted by: the Democrats at June 20, 2026 10:44 AM (W0KIM)

264 Good morning! Prayers said for all who asked and those who didn’t. Very rambunctious Shiba here, we are going to go on an adventure to help with this.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:44 AM (p4NUW)

265 Tomorrow's Mooch.

Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) told The Dallas Morning News she does not plan to attend the state convention and instead is focusing on helping down-ballot candidates across the country.

Crockett also said she’s not sure whether Democrats, particularly Black voters, have united fully behind Talarico and the rest of the ticket.

She said the lack of a Black nominee for major statewide office could dampen enthusiasm among some voters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:44 AM (ndZc7)

266
I, for one, an eager to hear more from Mr. Talarico about his unique insight into religion and how it will make him a better Senator.

Posted by: Auspex at June 20, 2026 10:45 AM (Y8DZL)

267 "Dr. Frita emphasized on her Healthy Happy Life Podcast that these hateful "jokes" about highly prominent Black women are not merely harmless political theater. Because Black women in America already face heightened baselines for cardiovascular disease, she argues that enduring pervasive, systemic disrespect causes a very real, measurable spike in cardiovascular morbidity."

Oh, no. Black Big Mike got disrespected by the white UFC fighter.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 10:45 AM (J4Dwc)

268 MP4, sorry that your depression is holding you down. Sometimes the hardest thing to let ourselves believe is that we are loved. But God does love us all, and He loves you specifically. Looking for and acknowledging the ways He blesses us - both individually and generally- can help push away the negative feelings. I don't know you, but it's clear you are blessed with an immense talent for writing. That's a good place to start, but also in the design and function of nature that sustains us all.

Not saying it's easy, but practice makes perfect.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 10:48 AM (kOluj)

269 Give more speeches Mr. Talarico. Consider holding large outdoor stadium rallies as well.

Posted by: The Jolly Time Popcorn Company at June 20, 2026 10:48 AM (D2IX4)

270 She said the lack of a Black nominee for major statewide office could dampen enthusiasm among some voters.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:44 AM (ndZc7)

Proving that she’s not as stupid as the act she puts on for the cameras. What she said there has been true for every Texas election for at least 30 years. No black candidates, the community mostly stays home.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:48 AM (jxNsH)

271 "I've hammered this point for a while, but these people are incapable of kinetic action."

We have the guns AND the numbers. All they have is a few Deep Blue enclaves where only the criminals have guns. And very few of their men know how to fight.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 20, 2026 10:48 AM (dtajH)

272 creeper!!!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:49 AM (ZHOnm)

273 On topic of Talarico's unique take on the NT canon, there's a book out: "The New Testament Canon in Contemporary Research". Collection of essays. It costs $185 though which is some bullshit.
Some authors think the NT was agreed-upon very early (if they say 2 Peter doesn't count, that might actually reach consensus).

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:49 AM (W0KIM)

274 >Because Black women in America already face heightened baselines for cardiovascular disease, she argues that enduring pervasive, systemic disrespect causes a very real, measurable spike in cardiovascular morbidity."
+++++

Where my EBT card at?

Posted by: La'Shondra at June 20, 2026 10:50 AM (D2IX4)

275 M&Ms are healthy now?

M&M MAHA Shake-Up: Candy Removes Artificial Dyes, Ditches Blue and Brown in Push for “All-Natural” Look

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:51 AM (ndZc7)

276 Crockett also said she’s not sure whether Democrats, particularly Black voters, have united fully behind Talarico and the rest of the ticket.

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'Tis indeed a mystery.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:51 AM (6/7Fs)

277 Because Black women in America already face heightened baselines for cardiovascular disease, she argues that enduring pervasive, systemic disrespect causes a very real, measurable spike in cardiovascular morbidity."
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Oh, FFS...

Maybe quit shoving greasy, calorie-laden foodstuff down their gullets and eat a vegetable that isn't deep-fried once in a while.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:53 AM (ZHOnm)

278 Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 10:41 AM (jehh

WTH? Who told us what to do when COVID first broke? I understand he hadn't experienced DC and the manipulation it can hoist on the inexperienced but he was President when we were locked down. Trump 2.0 and his administration wouldn't have allowed it but Trump 1.0 was successfully bullied.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 10:53 AM (KC5Lt)

279 Dr. Frita... argues that enduring pervasive, systemic disrespect causes a very real, measurable spike in cardiovascular morbidity.

Racism is a public health emergency!

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 10:54 AM (W0KIM)

280 Morning, MisHum, and caffiends! Coffee is brewing, and will pour a mug shortly. But not a short mug. That would be wrong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 10:55 AM (1z8ji)

281 Maybe quit shoving greasy, calorie-laden foodstuff down their gullets and eat a vegetable that isn't deep-fried once in a while.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 20, 2026 10:53 AM (ZHOnm)

Now that's just hateful.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 10:55 AM (dK+Kv)

282 "but Trump 1.0 was successfully bullied."

The Left and MSM had put us all into panic state. Trump couldn't move on Fauci / Brix without it destroying his Presidency. He did do things to push it down onto the States.

Many Americans have since woken up to this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 20, 2026 10:56 AM (dtajH)

283 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:48 AM (jxNsH)

They still elect Dem mayors.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 10:56 AM (KC5Lt)

284 Kamala explains to Don Lemon the power of hope:

“I really, truly believe this. We we each have have light inside of us. And we need to know that that is what inspires our hope as much as anything external to ourselves. And when we feel that and and and not allow an election or an individual to dampen that light, and instead light, let that light kind of carry us in particular through moments of darkness, that that we not only act on that hope, but we inspire that hope in each other. And in particular, at this moment, it is so important that we not only have hope, but that we understand that that should be a verb."

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Look at transcripts of Barky's speeches. It's very close to the senseless meanderings as this.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2026 10:56 AM (jykex)

285 Crockett is too stupid to understand how racist she sounds.

Posted by: Case at June 20, 2026 10:57 AM (IY9No)

286
Maybe quit shoving greasy, calorie-laden foodstuff down their gullets and eat a vegetable that isn't deep-fried once in a while.
Posted by: SMH at God's m

Crazy talk! lol.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 10:58 AM (Wmg4n)

287 Posted by: Ignoramus at June 20, 2026 10:56 AM (dtajH)

I didn't see it that way . It was confirmed when he criticized GA for opening up too soon. Anyway that's history and he learned his lesson.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 10:58 AM (KC5Lt)

288 I think Lieberman was Gore's VP.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 10:58 AM (l26NL)

289 Morning.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 10:59 AM (b4s65)

290 Many Americans have since woken up to this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 20, 2026 10:56 AM


"Question authority."

Posted by: The 1960s at June 20, 2026 10:59 AM (D2IX4)

291 269 Give more speeches Mr. Talarico. Consider holding large outdoor stadium rallies as well.

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He can't. Mommy said she'll pay for a high school auditorium, but no larger.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 10:59 AM (6/7Fs)

292 Kamala explains to Don Lemon the power of hope:

“I really, truly believe this. We we each have have light inside of us. And we need to know that that is what inspires our hope as much as anything external to ourselves. And when we feel that and and and not allow an election or an individual to dampen that light, and instead light, let that light kind of carry us in particular through moments of darkness, that that we not only act on that hope, but we inspire that hope in each other. And in particular, at this moment, it is so important that we not only have hope, but that we understand that that should be a verb."


It probably lost something in translation from the original gibberish.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 20, 2026 10:59 AM (Riz8t)

293 I used to be a thing.

Posted by: Joementum at June 20, 2026 11:00 AM (D2IX4)

294 Chuck Schumer Declares Save America Act “Worst, Most Anti-Election Democracy Things That’s Ever Been Proposed”

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Boy, you said it!
- John Thune

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 11:00 AM (ndZc7)

295 Hadrian, prayers to St. André Bessette for your sister M, and to St Philip Neri for your nrphew L. May they lidt up your family, through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 20, 2026 11:00 AM (tcsrY)

296 288 I think Lieberman was Gore's VP.
Posted by: Blutarski

Maybe in the alternate universe.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 11:00 AM (W0KIM)

297 It probably lost something in translation from the original gibberish.

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That there is whatcha call yer soaring rhetoric. Don't you know soaring rhetoric?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 11:01 AM (6/7Fs)

298 >>> at this moment, it is so important that we not only have hope, but that we understand that that should be a verb."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 10:32 AM (ndZc7)


Does she know about the "ing"? I'm not sure if she knows about the whole "ing" situation with the english language.

Posted by: banana Dreaming at June 20, 2026 11:01 AM (3uBP9)

299 I don't know if a more horrible weapon of war was ever invented up to then.
Posted by: gKWVE
__________

"Hiram Maxim reported that in 1882, an American acquaintance in Vienna advised him to 'invent something that will enable these Europeans to cut each other’s throats with greater facility' if he wanted to make a fortune."

Posted by: Boswell's Johnson at June 20, 2026 11:02 AM (XvL8K)

300 Mr. L just spent $120 on red white and blue American made bunting to hang from the deck for the 250th and to bother the liberals. God love that man! His only comment was 'Merica!

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at June 20, 2026 11:02 AM (dyL4B)

301 I'm assuming a circus bear.
Posted by: muldoon,


Head uphill, he'll never be able to work the derailleur.

Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2026 11:02 AM (PMJuY)

302 These elections don't just steal themselves. They take a lot of effort, and a lot of stupid people to work.
-any and every democrat and all rinos

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 11:02 AM (LHPAg)

303 Lieberman 2.0 was not a bad guy though still liberal. He didn't hate America though which is a big upgrade. I forgot exactly why he went independent.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:03 AM (KC5Lt)

304 Catching up on the prayer list...

Doof, very sorry to hear that your mom passed.

And Bulg, very sorry to hear your sister passed.

I think it's safe to say where we have all gotten to that point in life where we look around and, quite futilely, demand that the people around us stop dying.

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at June 20, 2026 11:03 AM (b4s65)

305 polynikes, because he lost the primary to Lamont so went full Sore Loserman to stay on the ballot.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 11:04 AM (W0KIM)

306 Hiram Maxim reported that in 1882, an American acquaintance in Vienna advised him to 'invent something that will enable these Europeans to cut each other’s throats with greater facility' if he wanted to make a fortune."
Posted by: Boswell's Johnson at June 20, 2026 11:02 AM (XvL8K)

And was the cross fire technique was implemented it became even more deadly.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:05 AM (KC5Lt)

307

283 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 10:48 AM (jxNsH)

They still elect Dem mayors.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 10:56 AM (KC5Lt)

Dallas hasn’t had a white mayor in a long time. But Erik Johnston is intelligent, unlike so many of his northern counterparts. He knows how to keep the business establishment on his side, while still keeping his black voting base in his pocket.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 11:05 AM (jxNsH)

308 ...she argues that enduring pervasive, systemic disrespect causes a very real, measurable spike in cardiovascular morbidity."

OK, prove it. Show us the data.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2026 11:06 AM (vTZFs)

309 >>> Look at transcripts of Barky's speeches. It's very close to the senseless meanderings as this.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 20, 2026 10:56 AM (jykex)

285 Crockett is too stupid to understand how racist she sounds.


Race communism filtered through prosperity theology always is. Just throwing words out. Malcome X is not too different from Oswald Bates. Which is why the skits were funny.

Posted by: banana Dreaming at June 20, 2026 11:06 AM (3uBP9)

310 Posted by: gKWVE at June 20, 2026 11:04 AM (W0KIM)

That definitely was a factor.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:07 AM (KC5Lt)

311 Lieberman 2.0 was not a bad guy though still liberal. He didn't hate America though which is a big upgrade. I forgot exactly why he went independent.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:03 AM (KC5Lt)

He lost the Dem primary, so ran as an independent in the general and won. He caucused with the Democrats (like Bernie and Angus King do today).

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 11:07 AM (1ieqq)

312 This made me laugh.

>>@ThrillaRilla369

>>I'm launching a website called OlderFans where I post today's injury and the wildly normal thing that caused it

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 11:07 AM (viF8m)

313 She was disrespected. According to Karmelo Anthony supporters, that means Big Mike would be justified in plunging a knife into the WFC fighter's heart.

Posted by: one hour sober at June 20, 2026 11:07 AM (J4Dwc)

314 Hollywood doing Hollywood.

“Matlock” Reboot Writer Sues CBS and Showrunner for Alleged Racism, Sexual Harassment

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 11:08 AM (ndZc7)

315 I'm one of the most sought after political signs in the collector's market.

Posted by: Sore Loserman at June 20, 2026 11:09 AM (D2IX4)

316 Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 11:07 AM (1ieqq)

Yes he remained liberal but he was no Commie Bernie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:09 AM (KC5Lt)

317 He didn't hate America

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Poll Finds 25% of Democrats View the u.s. As “Worse Than Average” Compared With Other Nations

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 11:09 AM (ndZc7)

318 Howdy, Robert! Hope life on the road is treating you well.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 20, 2026 11:09 AM (kOluj)

319 WTH? Who told us what to do when COVID first broke?
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Most of the actual protocols foisted on the public came out under *biden's administration. Trump was conned by his staff. And as a germaphobe, it didn't take much to get him to support early containment.

But the *biden administration turbo charged the lockdowns and the recriminations for non-compliance.

The point was that some people were conditioned during this time and were brainwashed so badly that they've never recovered.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 11:10 AM (jehhT)

320 Yes he remained liberal but he was no Commie Bernie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:09 AM (KC5Lt)

That's true.

As an aside, Lieberman was one of the biggest proponents of DC school choice.

Posted by: Vendette at June 20, 2026 11:11 AM (1ieqq)

321 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jeb! (pronounced Heb!) at June 20, 2026 11:12 AM (0sNs1)

322 But I wore such cute scarves!

Posted by: Old Lady Birx at June 20, 2026 11:12 AM (D2IX4)

323 >>I'm launching a website called OlderFans where I post today's injury and the wildly normal thing that caused it
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 11:07 AM (viF8m)

I like the comedian who had a big talking about when you were younger and had an injury you had a good story.

How'd you hurt your neck?
A: Playing a little bit of Rugby on the weekend.

Now: How'd you hurt your neck?
A: Sleeping

Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 11:12 AM (KC5Lt)

324 Please clap.

Posted by: The Jebster at June 20, 2026 11:12 AM (D2IX4)

325
285 Crockett is too stupid to understand how racist she sounds.
Posted by: Case at June 20, 2026 10:57 AM (IY9No)

And this is the exact opposite of what’s actually going on with her! She is making millions, literally, from liberal donors and YouTube subscribers who will throw money at her for spitting out the most angry, hateful racist shit that she can come up with. She doesn’t care that she’s losing her seat in Congress, because that was too limiting - she’s free to make a lot more money from it now.

And when Talarico loses, She’s gonna be the one telling Texas Dems, “See? Ah tol’ you so! But did your pasty white asses listen to anything me and the black community said? Oh nooOOOooo..”

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 11:14 AM (jxNsH)

326 Noodlum.

Posted by: The Noodist at June 20, 2026 11:14 AM (D2IX4)

327 314 Hollywood doing Hollywood.

“Matlock” Reboot Writer Sues CBS and Showrunner for Alleged Racism, Sexual Harassment
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 11:08 AM (ndZc7)
Don't you mean the Andy Griffith Show? Wall to wall wypipa on that one. Now Matlock was a virtual this-n-that, a paint color choice catalog of humanity. No racism there except the occasional 'white guy did it'.

Posted by: Eromero at June 20, 2026 11:15 AM (LHPAg)

328 I have a very common first and last name. My siblings (7 older ones) chose my first name, after a friend who eventually became a priest (yay!).

My birthday fell on St. Alexis' day. So, I am blessed with a very unusual middle name. I love it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 11:16 AM (qFwJc)

329 Obama Gives Glowing Tribute to Clintons and Bushes, Barely Mentions Biden's at Presidential Library Grand Opening

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Wait. I thought George W. Chimpy McHitler Bush was the worst president ever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at June 20, 2026 11:16 AM (ndZc7)

330 osted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 20, 2026 09:34 AM (ycI94)

You always make me have to double up on my forgiveness prayers.
Posted by: polynikes at June 20, 2026 09:36 AM (KC5Lt)

I no longer forgive. I'm on the revenge side of things these days. They can ALL DIAF.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 20, 2026 11:29 AM (5xuJ/)

331 I am posting in gratitude, as my prayers are being heard. The most recent fraud indictment/arrest announcement was for $1.4M -- for 15 people, and an unspecified number of years. And over $500k of it was one guy, so for most of them it was under $100k, and may have been under $10k per year. They are not just ignoring the small-dollar fraudsters.

This is necessary, as we pray for God to lead us not into temptation, it would be wrong for us to do it to each other. And there are many good people who have worked hard for low-to-middling five-figure incomes their whole lives, who would be tempted into sin (if not theft then wrath) seeing others get free money for lying on a form. None can be allowed to get away with it.

Thank you, God, and give them strength to continue, until every single last one is doing hard time in Federal prison. Amen.

Posted by: SciVo at June 20, 2026 01:48 PM (Sy6m/)

Daily Tech News 20 June 2026

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Disclaimer: Four fried chickens and a coke.

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)

2 Yo Techsters.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 04:33 AM (BGSp9)

3 Amazon steps on crank with golf shoes.

Film at 11.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at June 20, 2026 04:34 AM (/HDaX)

4 >>>the consummate serpent grease entrepreneur

?

Maybe I will go read it.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 04:35 AM (6wpGE)

5 Guten morgen, horde.

Posted by: clarence at June 20, 2026 04:36 AM (I5lp2)

6 Boston Dynamics - Bringing AIMEE to life.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2026 04:40 AM (2GVsD)

7 I still cannot figure out what the Four Seasons/Piper kerfuffle was about. Women should just categorically refrain here from saying negative things about each other. Guys can do that without things escalating to defcon 1 straightaway.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 04:41 AM (DZ9Lv)

8 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 04:41 AM (WBro8)

9 Rejoinder: For here?

Posted by: clarence at June 20, 2026 04:43 AM (I5lp2)

10 How does one know when they have encountered a malicious USB cord? The ones I have seen tend to twisted true but were generally good natured.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 04:46 AM (BGSp9)

11 How does one know when they have encountered a malicious USB cord? The ones I have seen tend to twisted true but were generally good natured.

Need a cleric to cast Detect Evil.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2026 04:47 AM (2GVsD)

12 "If you let someone plug it into a malicious USB cable, at which point they could also just smash it with a hammer."

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it.

Posted by: CCP Malicious USB Manufacturing, Inc. at June 20, 2026 04:48 AM (zZxsY)

13 Interesting headline:

"CCTV shows inmates following child killer before fatal prison attack."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 20, 2026 04:49 AM (2GVsD)

14 The FireWire cords on the other hand. Just no good. Still find them hanging around occasionally. Now they just can’t seem to fit in.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 04:50 AM (BGSp9)

15 A couple of years ago all the news was about Sam Altman or Sam Bankman Fried. I couldn’t remember which was the crook. After the trial when Elon sued Open AI it appears both were.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 04:54 AM (BGSp9)

16 Sanders' insane plan offers a dividend of $1000 to every adult American drawn from the profits of an industry that is losing massive amounts of money.

What could possibly go wrong?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 04:56 AM (l3cgK)

17 Lou Bega had more than 1 song? I figured if he did, it was Mambos 1 through 4.

Posted by: Wally at June 20, 2026 04:58 AM (+nC3J)

18 Sanders' insane plan offers a dividend of $1000 to every adult American drawn from the profits of an industry that is losing massive amounts of money.

What could possibly go wrong?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 04:56 AM (l3cgK)

I’m amazed that old coot can still find people to listen to him rant. In a Senate full of embarrassing idiots he may be the worst.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 05:04 AM (BGSp9)

19 17 Lou Bega had more than 1 song? I figured if he did, it was Mambos 1 through 4.

Posted by: Wally at June 20, 2026 04:58 AM (+nC3J)

My wife bought his CD...all his songs basically were the same...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 05:07 AM (l3cgK)

20 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:08 AM (Ia/+0)

21 Lou Bega - Sweet Like Cola

It's cute! 3:24!!! Gets old fast, maybe.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 05:14 AM (6wpGE)

22
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 20, 2026 05:16 AM (AMvSw)

23 I should get moving

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:20 AM (Ia/+0)

24 2 Yo Techsters.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 04:33 AM (BGSp9)

LOL

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 05:20 AM (6wpGE)

25 18 I’m amazed that old coot can still find people to listen to him rant. In a Senate full of embarrassing idiots he may be the worst.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 05:04 AM (BGSp9)

The NYT boosted him.

Bernie Sanders: A.I. Belongs to the People, Not to Billionaires
The New York Times
A.I. is built on our collective intelligence: our books, songs, artwork, journalism, computer code, scientific research, videos, conversations

and NPR.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 05:22 AM (6wpGE)

26 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at June 20, 2026 05:23 AM (V0/Sp)

27 Good morning. The creme brulee coffee is especially good this morning.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:24 AM (afJtY)

28 * Delete zeroes until it makes sense.

You tricky bastage, you ;--)

Posted by: fluffy at June 20, 2026 05:25 AM (V0/Sp)

29 Disclaimer: Four fried chickens and a coke.

You puttin' the band back together, Pixy?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 20, 2026 05:27 AM (O7YUW)

30 "Bernie Sanders: A.I. Belongs to the People"

Could "the people" give him to someone else? I vote yes!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 05:33 AM (guLpK)

31 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 20, 2026 05:27 AM (O7YUW)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 05:34 AM (guLpK)

32 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at June 20, 2026 05:34 AM (D2IX4)

33 A fine Saturn's Day evening to the late toilers, and morning to the early risers! Howzit goin'?

I slept about enough last night but various parts of the chassis are sluggish about waking . . . like a vintage Mercedes kept outdoors in a Denver winter. Once started and driven for a little bit, it's fine, and I will be too. A winter-weight oil for the MB, coffee for me!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:34 AM (wzUl9)

34 Uh . . . maybe I should not ask . . . but what happened between Piper and four seasons?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:35 AM (wzUl9)

35
Bernie Sanders: A.I. Belongs to the People, Not to Billionaires
The New York Times
A.I. is built on our collective intelligence: our books, songs, artwork, journalism, computer code, scientific research, videos, conversations

and NPR.

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 05:22 AM (6wpGE)

Funny how commies say all your bases belong to them...it's not your labor anymore either. No, it belongs to the "State", which means it belongs to the leadership elite...some animals are more equal than others...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 05:36 AM (l3cgK)

36 My wife bought his CD...all his songs basically were the same...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026


***
Sorta like Springsteen . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:37 AM (wzUl9)

37 Wolfus, how goes the house hunt?

Are you settled on Terre Haute?

Posted by: fluffy at June 20, 2026 05:37 AM (V0/Sp)

38 37 Wolfus, how goes the house hunt?

Are you settled on Terre Haute?

Posted by: fluffy at June 20, 2026 05:37 AM (V0/Sp)

What size rifle does one use on a house hunt?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 20, 2026 05:38 AM (l3cgK)

39 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 20, 2026 05:38 AM (Hbeqj)

40 olddog , a glorious good morning to you and yours.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:39 AM (afJtY)

41 Men In their 70's and from
Ohio sing old time gospel song "I'll fly away away" at their cousin's funeral. Faithpot site :

https://tinyurl.com/ex77zrxe

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 05:39 AM (guLpK)

42
AMD's TSME will return to Ryzen 9000 CPUs via a BIOS update.


For now. The enshittification will return in a future future BIOS update.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 20, 2026 05:39 AM (O7YUW)

43 Uh . . . maybe I should not ask . . . but what happened between Piper and four seasons?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

It started with four seasons's comment #7 and escalated from there. Piper graciously forgave her so I hope the whole thing will blow over and be forgotten.

Posted by: Tuna at June 20, 2026 05:40 AM (lJ0H4)

44 @43
Check that. Comment #17.

Posted by: Tuna at June 20, 2026 05:42 AM (lJ0H4)

45 The house search is in suspension. The place I looked at yesterday was great: 2BR/1 BA, porch, rear deck, all the floors and painting done, a 2-car garage with a concrete driveway, basement, etc. Then . . .

I found it's within a block of an "affordable housing" development. "Driving" around it on Gorgle Street View, I see that as of March this year it looked clean and neat, a world better than the kind of low-income and Section 8 places we have here. But there's always the chance it won't *stay* nice. I'd hate to buy a place, spend time and money customizing it, then get robbed by thugs or mugged when out exercising by gang members.

No, no place is perfect. But that kind of unpleasant experience is part of what I'm trying to flee.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:43 AM (wzUl9)

46 Today is the great NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:44 AM (afJtY)

47 I really hope Ben its a fantastic weather event

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 05:45 AM (Ia/+0)

48 What size rifle does one use on a house hunt?
****

155mm recoilless.

Posted by: clarence at June 20, 2026 05:47 AM (I5lp2)

49 Anyhow . . . I was thinking last night I'd go work out this morning if the conditions were a little better than yesterday's. It rained last evening, so you'd think it might be a little cooler -- or at least less hot -- so . . .

Not really. Heat index of 85 already at 5 am? Ugh. It's better than yesterday's 94 HI, but still, ugh.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 05:57 AM (wzUl9)

50 My crockpot brisket adventure is about to begin. The brisket has been seasoned for 24 hours and is now teady for the long slow cook. Should it be a disaster the dogs are gonna love it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:57 AM (afJtY)

51 @34/Wolfus: I was reading the ONT just before going to bed and saw the comments and the warning from WeirdDave. It seemed to me that there must have been some comments made that were a lot worse that crossed a line, and were probably deleted.

Here's what's left if you want to follow the comment progression in the ONT:

The two-wolves picture, then comments: 11, 17, 25, 44, 52, 65, 66, 74, 79, 88, 89 (COB warning).

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 20, 2026 05:59 AM (O7YUW)

52 Pale moon rises high
Summer weekends at the shore
Calm breezes pass by


fin

Posted by: clarence at June 20, 2026 06:02 AM (I5lp2)

53 Wolfus: I was reading the ONT just before going to bed and saw the comments and the warning from WeirdDave. It seemed to me that there must have been some comments made that were a lot worse that crossed a line, and were probably deleted. . . .

***
I flicked over it. Probably best to let things settle down.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:03 AM (wzUl9)

54 Guess I'll get dressed and have some breakfast. Time to take the furry thugs' chow out of the fridge and clean their bowls, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:05 AM (wzUl9)

55 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: dry white toast.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 20, 2026 06:06 AM (amcLV)

56 My crockpot brisket adventure is about to begin. The brisket has been seasoned for 24 hours and is now teady for the long slow cook. Should it be a disaster the dogs are gonna love it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:57 AM (afJtY)
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8 hours on low and it should be melt in your mouth good.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 20, 2026 06:08 AM (amcLV)

57 Have a load of scap aluminum yo getrid of this morning, still a few more after this one

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:10 AM (Ia/+0)

58 Captain Obvious, do you start it on high for about an hour first?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:11 AM (afJtY)

59 @53/Wolfus: "Probably best to let things settle down."

Yup. (I only commented on it this morning because you asked about it.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 20, 2026 06:12 AM (O7YUW)

60 We have a very nice weekend, sunny low 80s ahead

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 06:18 AM (Ia/+0)

61 Breakfast: a microwaved beef-and-bean burrito with chili powder and some pepper jack cheese on top. Possibly I'll have a slice of toast with honey to settle the taste buds.

The car needs washing and spray waxing; and after that, so will I. (No, not the waxing part.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:20 AM (wzUl9)

62 Captain Obvious, do you start it on high for about an hour first?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:11 AM (afJtY)
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Nope. Low and slow all the way through.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 20, 2026 06:23 AM (amcLV)

63 Captain Obvious, thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:24 AM (afJtY)

64 Good Morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2026 06:24 AM (whRlH)

65 @38/jim (in Kalifornia): "What size rifle does one use on a house hunt?"

The use of the M28 is not recommended in residential neighborhoods, as its use may contravene several municipal, county, state, and federal regulations, as well as violate an international treaty or two.

"Go Big or Go Home" doesn't apply in this case because after using it, you ain't goin' home!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 20, 2026 06:25 AM (O7YUW)

66 - Ben

I've never done a brisket. Quite a few roast, taters and carrots.
Brown the roast in a frying pan. Put in pot and add water 1/3 - 1/2 height of roast. Scrub brush taters and carrots, slice taters in half lengthwise and add then carrots on top.
Unless you need it done quicker than 8, no need to start on high.
And since I'm not much on making gravy, I use the drippings instead of water with McCormick's brown gravy mix.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 06:26 AM (5gyQ/)

67 Teej, thank you. I hope you are well.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:28 AM (afJtY)

68 {{{Ben Had}}}

May you be by a babbling brook, in a birch forest, with a glass of excellent Pinot Grigio in hand. All while fluffy clouds scud by.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2026 06:30 AM (whRlH)

69 Morning, Ben Had. Sorry, got distracted. Busy loading truck and taking dog for walk before heading to lake.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 20, 2026 06:31 AM (Hbeqj)

70 - Ben - disclaimer

I ain't in no way the cook most folks in this place are. Except for my baked beans so, word to the wise...

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 06:31 AM (5gyQ/)

71 I'd say you boys have had enough!

Posted by: Taggert at June 20, 2026 06:33 AM (/HDaX)

72 NaCly, dearest. Thank you. That was my go to place to keep from having a scathing, invective laden rant about the European slackjaws thinking they should have a place at the table.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:34 AM (afJtY)

73 olddog, sounds like plans for a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:35 AM (afJtY)

74 - Back atcha, Ben.

Doin' okay. Wish I was what I was 20 even years ago. Four hours at the widow's, chainsawing, trimming, pulling turnips and digging in the garden did me in.
And a dog gone borer moth already got one of her zucchini plants. And the deer are chomping her tomato plants.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 06:38 AM (5gyQ/)

75 Anthropic is working on a next-gen AI modeled after Bernie Sanders. It's code name is BS-GPT. Sample interaction.

User: "What is the capital of Belgium?"
BS-GPT: "Oligachy!"
User: "What is Avogadro's number?"
BS-GPT: "Oligachy!"
User: What is today's forecast high temperature?"
BS-GPT: "Olgachy!"

Experts expect it to be heavily used on college campuses....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 20, 2026 06:39 AM (n9eFH)

76 {{{}}} to Ben Had, Salty, and everyone who needs one!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 20, 2026 06:40 AM (n9eFH)

77 I am the Shadout Mapes. Hello and good morning to you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:40 AM (afJtY)

78 Ok, heading out for the lake. Don't burn the house down.

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 20, 2026 06:42 AM (Hbeqj)

79 Ok, heading out for the lake. Don't burn the house down.

Ok!

https://tinyurl.com/rscissors

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 20, 2026 06:47 AM (/HDaX)

80 {{{I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper}}

Ahhh. Thank you. Have a wonderful day.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2026 06:48 AM (whRlH)

81 I read "crockpot" as "crackpot" and it made for a really weird discussion.

Posted by: Wally at June 20, 2026 06:49 AM (+nC3J)

82 May everyone have a great day. Got some preps before a meeting statrs at 1100.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 20, 2026 06:49 AM (whRlH)

83 Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 20, 2026 06:39 AM (n9eFH)

Whenever PsyOpAnime does anything involving Sanders it's always such titled "CCP gibberish". Same for Warren, but she always also has a full Sioux warbonnet.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 20, 2026 06:51 AM (hdRdU)

84 The film version of Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings' The Yearling, with Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman, is on Movies! tonight at 7 Central. Tomorrow night, House of Strangers with Edward G. Robinson and Susan Hayward.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 06:52 AM (wzUl9)

85 27 Good morning. The creme brulee coffee is especially good this morning.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:24 AM (afJtY)

YUM

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 06:52 AM (6wpGE)

86 The internet is not an ideal means of communication. You can't see anybody's face or body's language and at least initially things might come out rather nastily you don't have a do-over.
Also, unless they tell you nobody knows what personalstresses people are going through which might cause a reaction that might be stronger than it might otherwise be.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2026 06:56 AM (O14q3)

87 - "Heading for the lake."

Well, glad somebody is. Maybe, someday,... have nice 12' v-hull. Bought trailer later but, being the dummy I am, it's for at least a 14 footer and had no bow stop/winch mount. I was originally just gonna cart it in the back of the truck but found out that while loading on level ground was easy, the first time out sliding it up at a 45° angle into the bed,,, not so much.
Skinny and old, you see.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 06:56 AM (5gyQ/)

88 m, I would glady pour you a cup along with a chocolate/ pistachio biscotti

Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:57 AM (afJtY)

89 Light outside. The roads are no doubt still damp and muddy after last evening's rain; trying to clean up the car this early is probably not a good idea.

I'll shower and shave first. If I get sweaty while washing the car later, I can always shower again!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:01 AM (wzUl9)

90 46 Today is the great NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:44 AM (afJtY)

Best wishes to everybody!

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 07:01 AM (6wpGE)

91 Oh, that bow stop/winch mount will have to be custom made.
Maybe I can figure how to bolt one together, maybe, if I get the steel needed. And get someone to weld the post to the trailer mounting plate,,, maybe.

Posted by: TeeJ at June 20, 2026 07:01 AM (5gyQ/)

92 88 m, I would glady pour you a cup along with a chocolate/ pistachio biscotti
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 06:57 AM (afJtY)

Thank you!

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 07:02 AM (6wpGE)

93 Wolfus, Is Movies! a streaming service? What does it cost? I signed up for Criterion and quickly cancelled it. Too many French films.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 07:04 AM (qFwJc)

94 PowerLine funnies:

https://tinyurl.com/2kd3x2dc

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 20, 2026 07:05 AM (l26NL)

95 Spent all of yesterday working on bash scripts and neovim configs.

I mean what else are you going to do on your day off and you got a bad foot?

As a goof I made a neovim config that emulates Wordstar.

I also threw in the functions to write screenplays.

Why?

Why not.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 20, 2026 07:06 AM (XV/Pl)

96 Thought Powerline week in pictures was very good

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:08 AM (Ia/+0)

97 Wolfus, Is Movies! a streaming service? What does it cost? I signed up for Criterion and quickly cancelled it. Too many French films.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026


***
No, it's free -- over the air! If you get it in your area, of course. Their website is moviestvnetwork.com. You can enter your zip code and see if you have it. It's 24-hours, and they show the films with commercials but apparently without cutting. Whereas some channels would shoehorn a film into a two-hour slot, Movies! lets it run over to 2:15 or 2:20, fills the gap with old Looney Tunes cartoons or a Fractured Flickers excerpt, then starts the next on the half hour.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:09 AM (wzUl9)

98 "Who had Muslims uniting Catholics and Protestants in Belfast?"

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 07:10 AM (qFwJc)

99 Mmm! Time I fed the furry thugs!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:10 AM (wzUl9)

100 100

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 07:11 AM (6wpGE)

101 Thanks Wolfus. I have an over the air antenna for the TV in the Bonus room over the garage. I will look for it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026 07:14 AM (qFwJc)

102 Thanks Wolfus. I have an over the air antenna for the TV in the Bonus room over the garage. I will look for it.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 20, 2026


***
It's a fairly new channel in my area, so new the channel guide on my Vizio TV does not give details on it, but I can see their schedule on their site and on my ontvtonight.com page.

Sunday night is film noir, as is all day on Thursday. They'll often have a weekday devoted to a given classic actor or actress like James Stewart or Bette Davis. Tomorrow is "Father's Day" movies. And odd, "lost" films turn up. Last week they ran an early Bogart from 1934 called Call It Murder: strange, slow, talky Universal flick, but interesting anyway.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:20 AM (wzUl9)

103 Morning peeps. My wife had the US vs. Australia soccer game on yesterday. I can't figure out how they keep time. The clock on the screen was counting up, past 60 minutes, past 90.... weird. Boring. Drama queens on grass.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 07:21 AM (jehhT)

104 Morning peeps. My wife had the US vs. Australia soccer game on yesterday. I can't figure out how they keep time. The clock on the screen was counting up, past 60 minutes, past 90.... weird. Boring. Drama queens on grass.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 20, 2026 07:21 AM (jehhT)
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Only the official Timekeeper knows for sure...Even the refs don't know how much time is left on the clock.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 20, 2026 07:27 AM (gnNyN)

105
Our house is rather badly designed. The front faces almost due south and the back faces north. The master bedroom is on the west side and the garage is on the east side.

What happens is that the master bedroom often becomes hot from the afternoon sun, especially in warm weather. Like we're having now. Last night, I was pretty uncomfortable and Diana even decided to decamp to find somewhere cooler, an extraordinary event.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2026 07:29 AM (O0L8i)

106 Heading to scrap yard. Hopefully a good trip

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2026 07:31 AM (Ia/+0)

107 One of the bedrooms in our house faces East but is shaded from the morning sun and stays cool all day. We've been sleeping in there instead of the master bedroom. It is also the warmest bedroom in the winter.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 20, 2026 07:33 AM (f0sNM)

108 Good morning morons from Denver

Salutations to the novamomee

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 20, 2026 07:33 AM (6h45X)

109 I'm done with breakfast and my pipe. Time to shower and shave, I guess. I'll drop in on the Coffee Thread a little later!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 20, 2026 07:35 AM (wzUl9)

110 Today is the great NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:44 AM (afJtY)
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Is that today?

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 07:44 AM (ei1sX)

111 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 20, 2026 07:44 AM (VyBeY)

112 Good morning! It did nothing but rain yesterday but it'll be cool and cloudy today. Should be a good day to scoot up to Kickapoo Downtown and back with some actual IFR time instead of having to use those stupid foggles.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 20, 2026 07:47 AM (3Ope8)

113 Today is the great NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 20, 2026 05:44 AM (afJtY)
------
Is that today?
Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 07:44 AM

Oh, crap! Where are my car keys?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 20, 2026 07:52 AM (zC76q)

114 Good morning Horde thx Pixy.
66° at the moment not getting over high 70s today. Time to take a two mile walk to CVS. See you in the prayer breakfast

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 20, 2026 07:58 AM (L9YhZ)

115 Coffee is up.

Posted by: Weasel at June 20, 2026 08:00 AM (ei1sX)

116 I think Hyundai is making the smart bet. All the money going into AI is creating something which, as now set up, can generated lots of great dirty limericks (I have a story about that) and amazing virtual reality.
If you ignore the "Skynet" scenario, AI operated humanoid robots is the cat's pajamas endpoint of the AI business, and they're taking control of the necessary component.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 20, 2026 03:51 PM (RW118)

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Posted by: Pokemon card decks at June 20, 2026 07:26 PM (CrLRm)

Hark! The Herald Angels Sing! Glory To The ONT!

Welcome to the Friday ONT! You guys are a real enough world for me.

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Fido and feline Friday: Hey baby


Ketchup burger?

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Heavenly sandwich

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Ta dah!


Kollege

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Moo

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America the beautiful

There's a thing going on on social media that's fantastic. Foreign fans here for the World Cup are posting all about how great this county is, great food, friendly people, lovely vistas, and it's just the most wholesome thing in the world.

Golden calf

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Time keeps on slippin'

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Playing chicken


New idea for my will

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Today's insanity

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Blast from the past


The left

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Perry the platypus?

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Red 9


When Leafs get uppity

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Call me Moon Moon

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Japan is building up their military


They ain't lion

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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by dragons:

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1 Time Machine at work!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 09:58 PM (ZVgZ4)

2 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at June 19, 2026 09:58 PM (+9wcF)

3 Goodnight everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2026 09:59 PM (Ia/+0)

4 Was watching another depressing movie., have to find happier ones

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2026 09:59 PM (Ia/+0)

5 Sorry I'm late, I had to patch the doghouse, it was riddled with bullet holes.

Again.

CURSE YOU, RED BARON!

Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 09:59 PM (LrJiL)

6 Wow! My first first!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 09:59 PM (ZVgZ4)

7 And I looked, and behold! A rider on a pale horse. Or was it a giraffe on the ONT? I may need glasses

Posted by: mindful webworker - Jose, can you si? at June 19, 2026 10:00 PM (9bb3y)

8 You're welcome.

Posted by: Cameron Burgess at June 19, 2026 10:03 PM (gKWVE)

9 Don’t do martial arts without your glasses. And don’t fight with your glasses on!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 10:03 PM (ZVgZ4)

10 New idea for my will

You can't just bypass hundreds of years of lichdom and go straight to demilichdom.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:04 PM (VHUov)

11 I think the wolf meme is a reflection of me.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 10:04 PM (OoFl2)

12 Hello, Horde! 😊💕

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 19, 2026 10:06 PM (SRRAx)

13 Sorry I'm late, I had to patch the doghouse, it was riddled with bullet holes.

Again.

CURSE YOU, RED BARON!
Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 09:59 PM (LrJiL)

At least you didn't meet an angry dragon, and watch it fall in flames and ash while your parachute burned.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 10:06 PM (qx7Zg)

14 I think most of my problems could be solved if I had a dragon.

Except attracting girls.

Well.....no, that's definitely out.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 19, 2026 10:07 PM (jGGMD)

15 Yo!

Posted by: RandomDave at June 19, 2026 10:07 PM (aJQbY)

16 .303 / 7.70×56
.308 / 7.62×51

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:07 PM (VPNgR)

17
Both of the wolves are whores?



Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 10:08 PM (/QHx4)

18 I've seen video clips before of idiots stating that "Jesus was trans because Mary couldn't give birth to a male without a father," before. If that's the case, Iwonder how they explain the need for Jesus to get circumcised.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:09 PM (LrJiL)

19 >>There's a thing going on on social media that's fantastic. Foreign fans here for the World Cup are posting all about how great this county is, great food, friendly people, lovely vistas, and it's just the most wholesome thing in the world.

I completely agree.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 10:09 PM (viF8m)

20 No one top twenty reads any content.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 19, 2026 10:11 PM (sl73Y)

21 What the...Oh, this is Friday, I see.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:11 PM (VPNgR)

22 Japan is building up their military

I think I've seen some of those scenes in Godzilla movies.

Thank you WD!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 19, 2026 10:11 PM (B0dAE)

23 Iwonder how they explain the need for [XX] Jesus to get circumcised.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:09 PM (LrJiL)

Oh! Ask us!

Posted by: the muslims at June 19, 2026 10:11 PM (gKWVE)

24 I accidently watched a bit of ABC news today.

Holy smokes is it garbage. Juvenile, shallow and as non-informative as it could be.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 19, 2026 10:12 PM (ItpVy)

25 17
Both of the wolves are whores?
Posted by: four seasons

Whoa. That came out of left field. Not ok.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 10:12 PM (21WNI)

26 >>There's a thing going on on social media that's fantastic. Foreign fans here for the World Cup are posting all about how great this county is, great food, friendly people, lovely vistas, and it's just the most wholesome thing in the world.

I completely agree.
Posted by: JackStraw


The last guy was going gaga over Chipotle.

How bad are the restaurants in the rest of the world?

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:12 PM (VHUov)

27 17
Both of the wolves are whores?



Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 10:08 PM (/QHx4)

Where did I put that 20 dollar bill?

Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:13 PM (LrJiL)

28 That ketchup nothing-burger reminds me of the "none pizza with left beef" from... has it been almost two decades already?

Posted by: Another Anon at June 19, 2026 10:14 PM (4h45B)

29 Time keeps on slippin'

Japan is building up their military

While I was not born when the Nips got frisky, I read a lot of comic books in which they were definitely the bad guys.

I'm awfully glad they're on our side this time.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 19, 2026 10:14 PM (Riz8t)

30
Foreign fans here for the World Cup are posting all about how great this county is, great food, friendly people, lovely vistas, and it's just the most wholesome thing in the world.

____________

And their MSM and ours are saying, "Who are you going to believe, us or your lying eyes and taste buds?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 10:14 PM (O0L8i)

31
Time Machine at work!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit


Does it go to 802701?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2026 10:14 PM (Cqx++)

32 There's a thing going on on social media that's fantastic. Foreign fans here for the World Cup are posting all about how great this county is, great food, friendly people, lovely vistas, and it's just the most wholesome thing in the world.

I completely agree.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 10:09 PM (viF8m)

I was informed that it was all fakey fake clickbait, or something.

I choose to ignore them. There is something happening. A lot of the folks coming here for the World Cup have lived their entire lives learning that America was horrible. And they are not the old money rich folks on some kind of beer and wine safari. They are regular folks who flew over coach to see their teams.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your face is weird! at June 19, 2026 10:14 PM (0aYVJ)

33 If that's the case, Iwonder how they explain the need for Jesus to get circumcised.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:09 PM (LrJiL)
---

Requesting thought, critical thinking and logic at the same time is a bit much for these people.
_when synapses collide

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:14 PM (VPNgR)

34 I realize this is not the point of the chicken meme, which I watched several times and enjoyed.

Mostly because it is how I feel right now but without that much drama.

How did the chicken get into the room with the balloon on her head and then pop it?

My day: my dude had a peridontist mess with him for a gum graft. Apparently braces in the past can cause receeding gums for his front lower teeth (otherwise perfect with one cavity in his entire life). I hate dental work like this, and wisdom teeth were enough for my sons.

His graft site (roof of mouth) bled like a gunshot wound for 30min. I had to peer in there with a flashlight and discuss this grossness with their office. A suture has maybe popped and I told him he could not remove it. He can't spit, either, and I am thinking if you do not like blood you would not have enjoyed our event.

I am a nurse and did not enjoy it but it FINALLY quit bleeding with pressure/gauze, wet teabag, and ice on his cheek.

All was well til he tried to take a nap (head elevated) and then texted me he was bleeding a lot.

I do hope this is not how my night is going to be.

The bad pain from graft starts in 3 days.

I may take drugs soon, too.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 19, 2026 10:15 PM (hzuYO)

35 No one top twenty reads any content.
Posted by: From about That Time


Hey, I was top-ten with a comment about the Content.

And "first" on the lawyer thread, with a comment about the Content. And a sock change.

Of course, that way of thinking means I've been "first" maybe 6 or 8 times, ever.....

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:16 PM (VHUov)

36 I think the wolf meme is a reflection of me.

Two wolf moon moon.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 19, 2026 10:16 PM (Riz8t)

37 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 19, 2026 10:17 PM (WBro8)

38 Heh....South Park photo at the top. The character's name is Jenkins (after Leeeee Roooooyyyyy Jennnnnnkins...which was staged, btw). And the character is based on a real live person who used to be a developer at that company before it became Blizzard. His name is Joeyray Hall....and he really looks like that.

Posted by: Orson at June 19, 2026 10:18 PM (dIske)

39 36 I think the wolf meme is a reflection of me.

Two wolf moon moon.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 19, 2026

I feel like this could be the start of a song.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 10:19 PM (OoFl2)

40 Past and Future:

Bring payphones back. But they're giant touchscreens made to look like iPhones. And the audio is always set to speakers, so everyone else hears your conversation (just like regular iPhone users in public). Camera, however, stays disabled. No need to share THAT much about your babydaddy chillax'n at your home.

Posted by: Another Anon at June 19, 2026 10:19 PM (4h45B)

41 Mississippi residents are richer, on average, than UK citizens. Does that help explain the restaurant discrepancy?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 10:19 PM (ZVgZ4)

42 Both of the wolves are whores?
Posted by: four seasons


I think you call them "bitches" when they're canines.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:19 PM (VHUov)

43 36 I think the wolf meme is a reflection of me.

Two wolf moon moon.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 19, 2026 10:16 PM (Riz8t)

++++++++++

M-O-O-N spells moon.

Posted by: Tom Cullen at June 19, 2026 10:20 PM (dIske)

44
I am very old school.

You don't live together to try it out.

Flame me i don't give a shit

.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 10:20 PM (/QHx4)

45 I think most of my problems could be solved if I had a dragon.

Except attracting girls.
Posted by: Dr. T


Would your choice on Friends have been Phoebe, over Rachel or Monica? Then it could work.

"Yeah, this is my baby dragon. I've got a baby unicorn in the van over there....."

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:22 PM (VHUov)

46 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 19, 2026 10:22 PM (G3T/K)

47
Mississippi residents are richer, on average, than UK citizens.

___________

Take Greater London out of the calculations and it's even more glaring.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 10:22 PM (O0L8i)

48 22 Japan is building up their military
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and their neighbors. Gave some boats to the Philippines, sold some naval high tech to India along with personal assistance also new, never before internal legislation OK'ing sharing home made sekret tech with neighbors. Included in alliance is Taiwan, Viet Nam Thighland, and other South China Sea friends.
Xi has more than Trump to worry about.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:23 PM (VPNgR)

49 Speaking of restaurant mix-ups, years ago, our group of friends played on a co-ed softball team. We would always go for pizza afterwards.

One time, there were a lot of extra people who went to the pizza place, so in order to make sure that the staff wouldn't get too confused, the person who ordered for us got an order form and dutifully proceeded to order separate pizzas. Made a "list" of it with 1), 2), 3), etc. I think we had 6 or 7 pizzas ordered that evening.

About 30 minutes later, the owner came to us rather sheepishly and asked if any if us would like to buy the "extra" pizzas for $5 apiece.

Turns out one of the new employees misunderstood and thought we wanted 1 of this pizza, 2 of the next pizza, 3 of the following pizza, etc.

We still laugh about that all these years later 😂😂😂

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 19, 2026 10:23 PM (SRRAx)

50 There Moon

Posted by: Eyegore at June 19, 2026 10:23 PM (Cqx++)

51 >>The last guy was going gaga over Chipotle.

>>How bad are the restaurants in the rest of the world?

The everyday stuff that most of us eat are ok. But nowhere has the kind of variety and abundance we do here. And even when they try to copy a hamburger most places do not succeed. Their overall experience is just not close. And most of us are pretty friendly and good people. And trust me, even when some of us get real barbecue we get a little misty, imagine how bad UK barbecue is.

The average American lives really well compared to the rest of the world. There's a reason so many try to break in here and so few want to leave.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 10:24 PM (viF8m)

52
It is Ace. . Aren't we allowed to express our opinions here?

Oh no, I might have offended someone here.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 10:25 PM (/QHx4)

53 Japan is building up their military

I think I've seen some of those scenes in Godzilla movies.

Thank you WD!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 19, 2026 10:11 PM (B0dAE)

Sort of looks like an AI production, putting Japanese insignia an American soldiers and weapons?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 10:26 PM (1z8ji)

54 Bad taxidermy is FUN taxidermy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 10:26 PM (6/7Fs)

55 I see Scogg has arrived. Nobody cares.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 19, 2026 10:27 PM (Riz8t)

56 One time, there were a lot of extra people who went to the pizza place, so in order to make sure that the staff wouldn't get too confused, the person who ordered for us got an order form and dutifully proceeded to order separate pizzas. Made a "list" of it with 1), 2), 3), etc. I think we had 6 or 7 pizzas ordered that evening.

About 30 minutes later, the owner came to us rather sheepishly and asked if any if us would like to buy the "extra" pizzas for $5 apiece.

Turns out one of the new employees misunderstood and thought we wanted 1 of this pizza, 2 of the next pizza, 3 of the following pizza, etc.

We still laugh about that all these years later 😂😂😂
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth


.....and to this day, the owner gets pissed when he hears "The Twelve Days Of Christmas."

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:27 PM (VHUov)

57 I just got a 4th of July party invitation from a former classmate. Possibly the most liberal person I know.

I figure my husband and I, if he survives this weekend's fun of dental recovery, and I would be the only conservatives there. Far outnumbered, big time. I think not!

I'm going to RSVP thank you but we have plans (to stay home possibly, but I cannot deal with Trump haters in one large group on our country's 250th birthday).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 19, 2026 10:27 PM (hzuYO)

58
Of course, that way of thinking means I've been "first" maybe 6 or 8 times, ever.....

Posted by: mikesk
---

Bragging about your fast computer, eh?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:27 PM (VPNgR)

59 Japan is building up their military
-
Need more Gundam

Posted by: Methos at June 19, 2026 10:28 PM (vSvIl)

60 Damn that broomhandle mauser looks fun.

The blue diamond eye skull thing....man I sooo want that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2026 10:28 PM (snZF9)

61 Alvin York hailed from the Three Forks of the Wolf (River).

Posted by: mrp at June 19, 2026 10:28 PM (rj6Yv)

62 >>>And they are not the old money rich folks on some kind of beer and wine safari. They are regular folks who flew over coach to see their teams.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,
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Evangelical America, I hope this helps them back home.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:30 PM (VPNgR)

63

A lot what is wrong in our country is the lack of commitment.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 10:30 PM (/QHx4)

64 59 Japan is building up their military
-
Need more Gundam

----------

We lost the Philippines last time this happened.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 10:30 PM (6/7Fs)

65 I am very old school.
You don't live together to try it out.
Flame me i don't give a shit
Posted by: four seasons
-----------

I've done the "living in sin" thing before. But didn't want to do it again after BF passed away.

Now-hubby invited me to move in, but I said no. I had a job & house, all settled in. He wanted to know why not...Because I don't want to *play house*

About a month after we married, I asked boss for a week off-- for moving. He was concerned: "Already?! But you just got married!"

Uh, yeah dude... it's time to move IN.

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 10:32 PM (rdVOm)

66 44 I am very old school.
You don't live together to try it out.
Flame me i don't give a shit

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 10:20 PM (/QHx4)


We lived together for a while before getting married because we were paying our own way through college, and both families thought we were too young to get married.

The difference was that we KNEW we wanted to get married - we weren't doing a trial run.

We celebrate 46 years of wedded bliss in August. 💕💕💕💕

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 19, 2026 10:32 PM (SRRAx)

67 59 Japan is building up their military
-
Need more Gundam

----------

We lost the Philippines last time this happened.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 10:30 PM (6/7Fs)
=====

Japan kicked their defense spending into high gear after the Norks launched IRBMs over the Home Islands back in the 90s.

Posted by: mrp at June 19, 2026 10:32 PM (rj6Yv)

68 No one top twenty reads any content.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 19, 2026 10:11 PM (sl73Y)


Absolutely! You’d miss the top 10 or worse if you did. But you can go back and read at leisure after first posting, and I do.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 10:32 PM (ZVgZ4)

69 I'm going to RSVP thank you but we have plans (to stay home possibly, but I cannot deal with Trump haters in one large group on our country's 250th birthday).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 19, 2026 10:27 PM (hzuYO)

yeah uh...sorry I can't make it. I got ball surgery with a rusty soup can lid scheduled that day and I don't want to miss that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2026 10:32 PM (snZF9)

70 Evening all,

Hope all are doing well.

Posted by: Joyenz at June 19, 2026 10:33 PM (2F0/Y)

71 I see Scogg has arrived. Nobody cares.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 19, 2026 10:27 PM (Riz8t)

?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 10:33 PM (1z8ji)

72 Requesting thought, critical thinking and logic at the same time is a bit much for these people.
Posted by: Braenyard


They do have a rudimentary sort of cunning, as shown by the "The Left" meme up there.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:34 PM (VHUov)

73 4 Was watching another depressing movie., have to find happier ones

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2026 09:59 PM (Ia/+0)

Look up the Amelia "Deport Deport now" song or any of the world cup tourist videos. They will put a smile on your face. Also, watch the chicken balloon video over a few times.

Posted by: moki at June 19, 2026 10:34 PM (wLjpr)

74 four seasons
Please stop.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 10:34 PM (A5RD0)

75 Might have to send some B-29s to Tinian.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2026 10:35 PM (Cqx++)

76 Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 10:24 PM (viF8m)

___________________

I hate to admit it, but tipping is a factor in the US. Not so much fast food, but any restaurant above and beyond. I spent quite a bit of time traveling, and the US is pretty much the only place that encourages tips in restaurants. You are the patron. The waiter and the chef try to be patronizing. So they, for the most part, will go that extra step in food quality and service. Europeans are mystified by these perks.

In the rest of the world it's a different atmosphere altogether. In a lot of restaurants (especially in France) they act like they're doing you a favor by allowing you to eat there. I'm not talking about the high end Michelin star restaurants. I'm talking about cafes and mid-level. They put as much effort into their entres as well....CBD may disagree, but I walked out of more than one restaurant in Europe, including one in Belgium that had a tomato worm in the salad bigger than my finger.

Posted by: Orson at June 19, 2026 10:36 PM (dIske)

77 that c-96 does not look like a standard full-auto. It seems to lack the happy-fun switch on the left hand side.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 19, 2026 10:36 PM (rbvCR)

78 All was well til he tried to take a nap (head elevated) and then texted me he was bleeding a lot.

I do hope this is not how my night is going to be.

The bad pain from graft starts in 3 days.

I may take drugs soon, too.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 19, 2026 10:15 PM (hzuYO)

I seriously hope he isn't on blood thinners, for both your sakes.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 10:37 PM (qx7Zg)

79 I am very old school.
You don't live together to try it out.
Flame me i don't give a shit

Posted by: four seasons


I agree. If you go into it with a 'trying it out' mentality, you'll always be straddling the fence, never jumping in the deep end, to mix metaphors. Commit mentally, emotionally, and if possible ceremonially, before you commit physically, and it will all go smoother.

I say this as an engaged-until-we-can-marry-no-matter-the-obstacles guy

Posted by: RandomDave at June 19, 2026 10:37 PM (aJQbY)

80 Oh, murky mirthfulness, WeirdDave. This was one heckuva Friday ONT.

Furriners feasting America had me grinning like crazy.

Dogs getting startled had me roaring with laughter; the table getting upended was the icing on the cake.

The D&D video: never played D&D, but this is exactly how I always presumed it would be.

Japan building up? I've said it before, I'll say it again, Japan is getting militant. Germany wants to have the biggest military force in Europe. Meloni better start getting the trains to run on time, IYKWIMAITTYD.

About the moo cows, though, from a ranch-dwelling Okie, let me advise you, the cowboys can tell you all those bent-up tailgates and bashed-in sides on their pick'm'ups aren't from traffic accidents, they're from the cattle just crowding around thinking they're going to be fed. They can crush you just by accident.

Mamas with calves are nothing to be trifled with.

And then there's the bulls.

Speaking of: Daughter in high schoolbrought some city boys out here once, and seeing the herd of angus in the field, they asked, "Do you milk those cows?" Sure, I said, go out and milk that big one with just one udder. Living in cattle country and that dumb. Sheesh!🤠

Posted by: mindful webworker - bow wow moo hic at June 19, 2026 10:39 PM (9bb3y)

81 that c-96 does not look like a standard full-auto. It seems to lack the happy-fun switch on the left hand side.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 19, 2026 10:36 PM (rbvCR)

I did not know that any C96 was full-auto. Full auto on any weapon that can only load 8 or 9 rounds is damned stupid. Hit one attacker, miss the rest, then use the gun as a club when the remaining attackers swarm you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 10:39 PM (1z8ji)

82 My (36F) husband (41M) has some disturbing requests for after he's passed away.

Stupid linear brain. I read this as "My thirty-six-year-old female husband....." and my brain didn't stop to reorder it until the (41M) part didn't fit into the sentence.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:40 PM (VHUov)

83 Don't get the Lion CVS gum .

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 10:41 PM (KC5Lt)

84 that c-96 does not look like a standard full-auto. It seems to lack the happy-fun switch on the left hand side.
Posted by: Kindltot

I did not know that any C96 was full-auto. Full auto on any weapon that can only load 8 or 9 rounds is damned stupid. Hit one attacker, miss the rest, then use the gun as a club when the remaining attackers swarm you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


I think you'd get swarmed while you were assembling and loading your CCW jigsaw puzzle.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:42 PM (VHUov)

85 New idea for my will

OMG. You can DO THAT?!

Posted by: GWB at June 19, 2026 10:42 PM (kU0PQ)

86 Don't get the Lion CVS gum .
Posted by: polynikes


Internet Meme that the minimum length of a CVS receipt is seven yards.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 10:42 PM (VHUov)

87 I think living together to try it out when you’re 20 is different than when you’re 50.

At 50. You’re not being a whore. Or a tramp. Youre not going to be a baby mama on the dole.

Don’t be a judgemental bitch.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 10:43 PM (LdAYY)

88 We lived together for a while before getting married because we were paying our own way through college, and both families thought we were too young to get married.

The difference was that we KNEW we wanted to get married - we weren't doing a trial run.

We celebrate 46 years of wedded bliss in August. 💕💕💕💕
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 19, 2026 10:32 PM (SRRAx)


I’m glad you kids are no longer living in sin.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 10:43 PM (ZVgZ4)

89 *COB HAT ON*.

Four seasons, enough. You can keep your lily white legs together or your teeny little dick dry all you want, but you don't get to lecture other people about what they do, Enough. It ends NOW

Posted by: Weirddave at June 19, 2026 10:44 PM (df/te)

90 80 Speaking of: Daughter in high schoolbrought some city boys out here once, and seeing the herd of angus in the field, they asked, "Do you milk those cows?" Sure, I said, go out and milk that big one with just one udder. Living in cattle country and that dumb. Sheesh!🤠
Posted by: mindful webworker - bow wow moo hic at June 19, 2026 10:39 PM (9bb3y)

The Wisconsin Democratic Party put out a "Happy Dairy Month" Tweet with a picture of 2 bulls.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:45 PM (LrJiL)

91 Need to send the Japanese military vid to Xi just in case he hasn't been paying attention.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 10:45 PM (KC5Lt)

92 LOL... Living together has saved me from TWO divorce settlements... and a whole bunch of money over the years.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 19, 2026 10:46 PM (mP0Kj)

93 I think living together to try it out when you’re 20 is different than when you’re 50.

At 50. You’re not being a whore. Or a tramp. Youre not going to be a baby mama on the dole.

Agreed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 10:46 PM (1z8ji)

94 The Wisconsin Democratic Party put out a "Happy Dairy Month" Tweet with a picture of 2 bulls.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:45 PM (LrJiL)

I chuckled when I saw that.

"Sorry, Dad"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your face is weird! at June 19, 2026 10:47 PM (0aYVJ)

95 83 Don't get the Lion CVS gum .

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 10:41 PM (KC5Lt)

CVS is notorious for extremely long receipts even for just one or two items.

Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:47 PM (LrJiL)

96 I did not know that any C96 was full-auto. Full auto on any weapon that can only load 8 or 9 rounds is damned stupid. Hit one attacker, miss the rest, then use the gun as a club when the remaining attackers swarm you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 10:39 PM (1z8ji)


The schnellfeur was a Mauser design for the 30's, Astra also made the 712 which was full auto. Both used detachable magazines and were generally meant to sell to China. There were other sales too, but mostly they were sold to China

The one in the video may have been modified, or it might have a busted sear. That one, though, was a model for WWI in 9mm from the hammer and the grips.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 19, 2026 10:47 PM (rbvCR)

97 >>There's a thing going on on social media that's fantastic. Foreign fans here for the World Cup are posting all about how great this county is, great food, friendly people, lovely vistas, and it's just the most wholesome thing in the world.

I completely agree.
Posted by: JackStraw

The last guy was going gaga over Chipotle.

How bad are the restaurants in the rest of the world?
Posted by: mikeski
====

Sometimes anything new and palatable is awesome.

That or have another plate of spotted dick and whirled peas...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 10:47 PM (/lPRQ)

98 >>I hate to admit it, but tipping is a factor in the US. Not so much fast food, but any restaurant above and beyond. I spent quite a bit of time traveling, and the US is pretty much the only place that encourages tips in restaurants. You are the patron. The waiter and the chef try to be patronizing. So they, for the most part, will go that extra step in food quality and service. Europeans are mystified by these perks.

But that's on a different level from most of what is being posted on social media. The people posting are big sports fans, they aren't here to sample fine dining and stay in fancy place or even mid-level places. They are here for the World Cup. They raving about Buc-eess and Chipolte and bars with cheese steaks.

As I'm sure you know from traveling they are fed a bigger dose censorship and far left government than we are. And they've heard we MAGA types of the devil.

World Cup is so much bigger to these people than the Super Bowl is to us. Some of them are here for weeks. They came to party and got way better than they expected. Kinda cool. Yea us.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 10:48 PM (viF8m)

99 I've done the "living in sin" thing before. But didn't want to do it again after BF passed away.

Now-hubby invited me to move in, but I said no. I had a job & house, all settled in. He wanted to know why not...Because I don't want to *play house*

About a month after we married, I asked boss for a week off-- for moving. He was concerned: "Already?! But you just got married!"

Uh, yeah dude... it's time to move IN.

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 10:32 PM (rdVOm)

We did it all out of order. We found a house first, then got engaged, then married, then moved into the house. My roman catholic genuine Italian grandmother would have lost her shit if we even thought about moving in before we were married. I would have done it, but I didn't want to be blamed for granny wearing black the rest of her life and whipping herself like Silas in the Da Vinci code.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2026 10:48 PM (snZF9)

100 I did not know that any C96 was full-auto. Full auto on any weapon that can only load 8 or 9 rounds is damned stupid. Hit one attacker, miss the rest, then use the gun as a club when the remaining attackers swarm you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 10:39 PM (1z8ji)
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IIRC, WSC carried a C96 in a cavalry charge at Omdruman. I bet it was switched to semi-auto

Posted by: mrp at June 19, 2026 10:49 PM (rj6Yv)

101 I'm pretty sure lots of folks were having picnics and hanging out April 11th 1861. Heck there were probably fewer people being killed by Democrats at that point.

Also fuck that chicken.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 19, 2026 10:49 PM (xcxpd)

102 Disappointed in the Japanese military video.

Gojira wasn't in it, at all. I mean, come on, you're Japan. Get with the game.

Posted by: GWB at June 19, 2026 10:49 PM (kU0PQ)

103 And they are not the old money rich folks on some kind of beer and wine safari. They are regular folks who flew over coach to see their teams.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your face is weird!


Does mean they cannot go on a beer, wine, liquor safari with all the small producers and free tasting tours.

I highly recommend it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 10:50 PM (/lPRQ)

104 My daughter went to a Red Sox game, annual corporate thing,.and spent the game being entertained by Scots in Boston for the world cup. Scots closed down Sam Adams tap room, out of beer.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 19, 2026 10:50 PM (sl73Y)

105 CVS is notorious for extremely long receipts even for just one or two items.
Posted by: tankdemon at June 19, 2026 10:47 PM (LrJi

Thanks I was not aware of that. And I used to manage a CVS when they were a small northeast company run out of Woonsocket, RI.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 10:52 PM (KC5Lt)

106 Alvin York hailed from the Three Forks of the Wolf (River).
Posted by: mrp

That is up by Pall Mall, Fentress County. You really can't get much farther out or you'd be going back in.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 19, 2026 10:52 PM (ItpVy)

107 You want hilarious and depressing video, catch KeroNgb on Ewe Tube. He posts interviews with college students from the Atlanta area, asking general knowledge questions like name three countries outside the US or what’s 18 divided by 3 or how many dimes in a dollar? These college-admitted students can’t answer! How long is a quarter of an hour? Most common answer: 25 minutes ‘cause a quarter, right. Some of these kids run the cash register at work! Here comes our next generation of doctors, engineers, and politicians!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 10:53 PM (ZVgZ4)

108 Shit, I could never live with a woman before marriage. She'd figure out what a pain in the ass I am before she was trapped by the vows.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 19, 2026 10:53 PM (DL7HR)

109 Disappointed in the Japanese military video.

Gojira wasn't in it, at all. I mean, come on, you're Japan. Get with the game.
Posted by: GWB at June 19, 2026 10:49 PM (kU0PQ)

Also missing Mothra and Gamora. They're probably close to Mechagojira(sp.) though.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 10:54 PM (qx7Zg)

110 IIRC, WSC carried a C96 in a cavalry charge at Omdruman. I bet it was switched to semi-auto
Posted by: mrp at June 19, 2026 10:49 PM (rj6Yv)

Indeed it was, but there was no switch then. Semi-auto was all you got. Churchill gave high praise to his Broomhandle Mauser, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 10:54 PM (1z8ji)

111 Does mean they cannot go on a beer, wine, liquor safari with all the small producers and free tasting tours.

I highly recommend it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 10:50 PM (/lPRQ)

They choose to drain Boston of all of its beer.

Man, I love that story.

Fooking Scots.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at June 19, 2026 10:54 PM (0aYVJ)

112 Take a minute:

youtube.com/watch?v=DADmZdbQ9x8

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:54 PM (VPNgR)

113
Got married first. I didn't and Her Majesty didn't want us living together first because of the stepdaughter.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 10:55 PM (O0L8i)

114 The phone booth meme makes me think of my grandparents who lived from riding horseback and oil lamps to watching men on the Moon. We’re going through similar changes today, we just haven’t noticed!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 10:56 PM (ZVgZ4)

115 "Politics is Hollywood for the ugly".

- Rush Limbaugh

Posted by: Ol Faithful at June 19, 2026 10:56 PM (hyQrc)

116 I keep telling the wife to encase my naked corpse in lucite and put me in the living room as the coffee table or front door like a cigar store indian.

That or roll me into the ditch and the gators will take care of the rest...

I think it'll be the later.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 10:57 PM (/lPRQ)

117 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:23 PM (VPNgR)

"Thighland"?

Posted by: GWB at June 19, 2026 10:57 PM (kU0PQ)

118
Bad taxidermy is FUN taxidermy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

==============

Same for fine art restoration!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2026 10:57 PM (XJ22o)

119 Where did all these Worldcuppers get the money to buy airline tickets? Never heard of such an invasion here (Beatles!). Are they all upper class.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2026 10:58 PM (Cqx++)

120 I would have done it, but I didn't want to be blamed for granny wearing black the rest of her life and whipping herself like Silas in the Da Vinci code.
Posted by: Berserker

LMAO! You're a good grandson!

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 10:58 PM (rdVOm)

121 "Politics is Hollywood for the ugly".

- Rush Limbaugh
Posted by: Ol Faithful at June 19, 2026 10:56 PM (hyQrc)

Nope. Not gonna do it. Nosiree.

Not gonna repeat my comment from earlier today on 2028.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 10:59 PM (qx7Zg)

122 Touch screens/pads are works of the devil.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:59 PM (VPNgR)

123 The phone booth meme makes me think of my grandparents who lived from riding horseback and oil lamps to watching men on the Moon. We’re going through similar changes today, we just haven’t noticed!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 10:56 PM (ZVgZ4)

My grandparents were a little younger (1915ish), but yeah, they saw some amazing advances in a very short time frame. Grandpa ended up working for Boeing and NASA.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Ulster Scot at June 19, 2026 10:59 PM (0aYVJ)

124
"Politics is Hollywood for the ugly".

- Rush Limbaugh
Posted by: Ol Faithful

===============

Politics' rejoinder: Hollywood is Washington's ATM.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2026 10:59 PM (XJ22o)

125 I've told my wife and my funeral director buddy to just sit me in a chair on the front porch with some type of mechanical apparatus that moves my arm in a wave.

Buddy - "Uhhhh, I really don't think I can do that."

Posted by: Tonypete at June 19, 2026 11:00 PM (ItpVy)

126 Might have to send some B-29s to Tinian.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

I believe Tinian airfield is quietly being reactivated.
A couple of other Pacific island airfields have recently been restored (google Earth, etc).

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 11:00 PM (/lPRQ)

127
Nope. Not gonna do it. Nosiree.

Not gonna repeat my comment from earlier today on 2028.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

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Oh yes you are.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2026 11:00 PM (XJ22o)

128 112 Take a minute:

youtube.com/watch?v=DADmZdbQ9x8

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 10:54 PM (VPNgR)


Good, but at this time of the night, I sort of was waiting for an Indian Head test pattern and the station to go off the air. Guess I fit that pay phone meme better than I thought.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 11:01 PM (ZVgZ4)

129 I'm gonna outlive my wife. Because she's a quitter. Always talking about how she don't want to live super long. But if I died first, I'd want to be preserved like Jeremy Bentham so I too could demystify death. And by demystify death, I mean be rolled out on a handtruck on special occasions or wheeled out into the driveway to gaze upon the neighbors from The Beyond.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 19, 2026 11:01 PM (DL7HR)

130 I think I saw a front door mat for All Hail Eris.

Hold on. We're probably not wearing pants.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:01 PM (qx7Zg)

131 I don't see any books in here, so pants are optional

Posted by: gKWVE at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (gKWVE)

132 >>Buddy - "Uhhhh, I really don't think I can do that."

How hard can it be to make a mechanical apparatus that moves your arm in a wave?

I'm sure AOP can spin that up in a shake.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (viF8m)

133 Nope. Not gonna do it. Nosiree.

Not gonna repeat my comment from earlier today on 2028.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

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Oh yes you are.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2026 11:00 PM (XJ22o)

You've been warned!

The 2028 Democrat Presidential ticket will be Biden/Biden. I'm not sure if Hunter or Jill will be on top.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

134 I think I saw a front door mat for All Hail Eris.

Hold on. We're probably not wearing pants.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


Somehow, your autocorrect changed "any member of the Horde" to "All Hail Eris."

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

135 I've told my wife and my funeral director buddy to just sit me in a chair on the front porch with some type of mechanical apparatus that moves my arm in a wave.

Buddy - "Uhhhh, I really don't think I can do that."
Posted by: Tonypete at June 19, 2026 11:00 PM (ItpVy)
=====

Might want to have yourself digitally recorded doing the waving thing. Then you can have a laser projector light show on the porch every night for as long as there's electricity.

Posted by: mrp at June 19, 2026 11:04 PM (rj6Yv)

136 Great vid of the Japanese military.
My F-N-L fought all thru the pacific. I told him once before he passed that I would hate having to fight them today.
He agreed. Said once was enough.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 19, 2026 11:05 PM (2WIwB)

137 133 Nope. Not gonna do it. Nosiree.

Not gonna repeat my comment from earlier today on 2028.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

=============

Oh yes you are.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2026 11:00 PM (XJ22o)

You've been warned!

The 2028 Democrat Presidential ticket will be Biden/Biden. I'm not sure if Hunter or Jill will be on top.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)
- - - - - - - -
Giggity giggity!

Posted by: G. Quagmire at June 19, 2026 11:05 PM (4h45B)

138 The civil war thing is interesting because the leftwing coalition is:

Feminists that believe physical work is below them
Male feminists that hate, fear, and want to rape those feminists
Racial minority supremacists with no impulse control
Jihadis
Insane violent trannies

The old commies had some sort of organization structure they could make work in combat but the current left? They rely on the straight white men not in their coalition to cow the populace and create some sort of order.

Though in fairness it is working in places like Britain.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 19, 2026 11:05 PM (sKqQm)

139 I'm sure AOP can spin that up in a shake.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (viF8m)

Wind-powered, just like those "flying ducks".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:05 PM (1z8ji)

140 >>Wind-powered, just like those "flying ducks".

See?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 11:07 PM (viF8m)

141 The 2028 Democrat Presidential ticket will be Biden/Biden. I'm not sure if Hunter or Jill will be on top.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

Jill will be on top. Hunter always fucks up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:07 PM (1z8ji)

142 There are ~200 McDonald's in London, 1500 in the UK. Been over 50 years since I've eaten at one.

Posted by: javems at June 19, 2026 11:07 PM (zFsEm)

143 I think I saw a front door mat for All Hail Eris.

Hold on. We're probably not wearing pants.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Somehow, your autocorrect changed "any member of the Horde" to "All Hail Eris."
Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

I remember her talking most about threads with pants required.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:08 PM (qx7Zg)

144
nurse,we aren't allowed to have differing opinions here?

We might offend someone here?

fuck them and the horse they rode in.

Goodnight all.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 11:08 PM (/QHx4)

145 Thanks Dave!
Seriously enjoyable ONT issue.
All good, but especially loved the Japan military clip.
Lots of US hardware…F15s, F35s, C130s, Ospreys. All good stuff. And I’m heartened by the fact that, if anyone can further pimp out existing stuff, they can. Just think about all the chrome and neon they could put on it all…

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 19, 2026 11:09 PM (3hOgI)

146 This ONT is PEAK GIRTHY

Posted by: L'Observateur Mikleuse at June 19, 2026 11:10 PM (6VErX)

147
Bed time. Diana is taking up Her Majesty's side of the bed. Good night, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 11:11 PM (O0L8i)

148 Four seasons

We are allowed to have differing opinions. But. We are also allowed to call out people who personally attack other people and are assholes.

I’ve been called out.

You’ve been called out.

Don’t get personal. Or do. Your choice.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 11:11 PM (A5RD0)

149 Nite, H7.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:12 PM (1z8ji)

150 Ohhh... Cat just brought a dove to the patio door. Ugh. Closed the drapes, I don't want to watch.

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 11:12 PM (rdVOm)

151 89 *COB HAT ON*.

Four seasons, enough. You can keep your lily white legs together or your teeny little dick dry all you want, but you don't get to lecture other people about what they do, Enough. It ends NOW

Posted by: Weirddave
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If you check, you will see four seasons made one statement that has been quoted by several other commenters. You are pointing a finger in the wrong direction.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 11:13 PM (VPNgR)

152 Ohhh... Cat just brought a dove to the patio door. Ugh. Closed the drapes, I don't want to watch.
Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 11:12 PM (rdVOm)

You need a bigger cat. One that can catch and kill Canada geese. Or pheasants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:14 PM (1z8ji)

153 150 Ohhh... Cat just brought a dove to the patio door. Ugh. Closed the drapes, I don't want to watch.

Posted by: JQ
--

Squab for supper?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 11:14 PM (VPNgR)

154 As Summer Kwanzaa draws to a close...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 19, 2026 11:14 PM (D2IX4)

155 Thanks Dave!
Seriously enjoyable ONT issue.
All good, but especially loved the Japan military clip.
Lots of US hardware…F15s, F35s, C130s, Ospreys. All good stuff. And I’m heartened by the fact that, if anyone can further pimp out existing stuff, they can. Just think about all the chrome and neon they could put on it all…
Posted by: Gunslinger at June 19, 2026 11:09 PM (3hOgI)
===

IIRC, the Japanese have created a Fleet Information Warfare Command that creates a seamless bond with operational US fleet elements. Everything the Japanese see or hear is instantly available to US forces.

Posted by: mrp at June 19, 2026 11:16 PM (rj6Yv)

156 At Krebs on Security:

"So far this month, Microsoft has provided patches to address 360 browser vulnerabilities ... the vast, and presumably sustained, uptick in the number of browser vulnerabilities has led to Microsoft no longer enumerating Chromium CVEs in the Security Update Guide."

So many defects, they won't even count and list them anymore. AI is digging them out briskly.

Posted by: gp at June 19, 2026 11:18 PM (Jr5Lq)

157 Squab for supper?
Posted by: Braenyard

LOL. Evidently. I'll clean up the mess of feathers in the morning. He had a rat for breakfast-- only had to sweep away the tail, entrails and *the green part* of that.

Birds are messy.

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 11:18 PM (rdVOm)

158 This is so typical of Seattle media:

"Some Seattle soccer fans have mixed feelings about patriotically backing the U.S. team during the FIFA Men’s World Cup, given the actions of President Donald Trump,” the post from The Seattle Times said.

From what I could see, maybe half a dozen people were quoted. 65,000 in the stands. Thousands more in the streets.
Fu*k you Seattle Times. You really do suck.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 19, 2026 11:19 PM (2WIwB)

159 So many defects, they won't even count and list them anymore. AI is digging them out briskly.

Posted by: gp
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I try to avoid Microsnot at every turn. Its got tentacles.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 11:20 PM (VPNgR)

160 Birds aren't real.

Posted by: I saw it on a bumper sticker at June 19, 2026 11:20 PM (D2IX4)

161 We did not live together before we were married, hubs had way too much respect for my parents and I knew his mother would despise me for corrupting her boy. We figured that we were going to be together for the rest of our lives and we wanted our respective families to be happy about it. It worked for us, one size may not fit all.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 19, 2026 11:20 PM (0nHVk)

162 'night All!

Posted by: mrp at June 19, 2026 11:21 PM (rj6Yv)

163 As Summer Kwanzaa draws to a close...
Posted by: Quarter Twenty


...all the slaves go back to the fields?

Well, I guess we're only half-slaves. The government lets us keep half.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 11:21 PM (VHUov)

164 Birds are messy.
Posted by: JQ
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A coyote disassembled a wild turkey on my front lawn last week.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 19, 2026 11:22 PM (XeU6L)

165 Diogenes.

I walked through thousands of fans on my way to the waterfront to catch my Boat home.

So much red, white and blue. So many American flags. So much happiness and joy and cheering.

I didn’t see a single protest sign.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 11:23 PM (A5RD0)

166 "I try to avoid Microsnot at every turn. Its got tentacles."

Their Chromium is the base engine inside Chrome. And Brave, BTW.

I tried to completely divorce from Google's stuff. I failed.

Thanks for the back brace tips, Braenyard! I will report back after trying them.

Posted by: gp at June 19, 2026 11:23 PM (Jr5Lq)

167 A coyote disassembled a wild turkey on my front lawn last week.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

I can just imagine what THAT looked like. Yeesh.

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 11:24 PM (rdVOm)

168 A coyote disassembled a wild turkey on my front lawn last week.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,

I guess the Roadrunner got away

Posted by: L'Observateur Mikleuse at June 19, 2026 11:24 PM (6VErX)

169 I've decided that I'm going to refer to soccer as "football" from now on. Not because the rest of the world does, but because the NFL would fucking despise it.

Posted by: ... at June 19, 2026 11:25 PM (vE0+H)

170 I can just imagine what THAT looked like. Yeesh.
Posted by: JQ
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Even after wind, rain, and a mowing, there are still some feathers around.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 19, 2026 11:26 PM (XeU6L)

171 163 As Summer Kwanzaa draws to a close...
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

...all the slaves go back to the fields?

Well, I guess we're only half-slaves. The government lets us keep half.
Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 11:21 PM (VHUov)

So all the money we make each year goes to the government until Juneteenth. Then we get to keep what we make? checks out, or there about.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 19, 2026 11:28 PM (w/O5Q)

172 They don't make a small power tool that's effective for any digging. (something you would keep in the shop)

Rented a gas powered auger twice. Mostly it would sit on top and turn. Had a friend on the other side and it ate our lunch.
Rented a 4" trencher and it sat on top of the clay, mostly. And ate my lunch. (heavy bitch)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 11:29 PM (VPNgR)

173 I didn’t see a single protest sign.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 11:23 PM (A5R

I bet it was awesome!
My grandson is at the baseball game. They went up early to get the experience. He is having a great time.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 19, 2026 11:29 PM (2WIwB)

174 Sweet clover, chicory and elderberry blooming on the roadsides. I think the solstice is tomorrow night. Tempus celerrime volat.

Posted by: gp at June 19, 2026 11:32 PM (Jr5Lq)

175 IIRC, the Japanese have created a Fleet Information Warfare Command that creates a seamless bond with operational US fleet elements. Everything the Japanese see or hear is instantly available to US forces.

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Just like old times!

Posted by: Station Hypo at June 19, 2026 11:32 PM (6/7Fs)

176 Hashtag #meowtoo

Posted by: That cat made me feel dirty at June 19, 2026 11:34 PM (BldAX)

177 Got the laundry in off the line. Nicely dry. Mosquitoes in evidence. And the damned clothesline jumped the far pulley as I reeled in the last two items.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:34 PM (1z8ji)

178 I bet it was awesome!
My grandson is at the baseball game. They went up early to get the experience. He is having a great time.
Posted by: Diogenes

Gorgeous evening. The Mariners would have gained a ton of fans had they offered $10 tickets to anyone with a foreign passport and a free American hotdog and coke.

Butts in seats.

And it’s the red socks. Fuck those guys in particular.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 11:35 PM (A5RD0)

179 177 Got the laundry in off the line. Nicely dry. Mosquitoes in evidence. And the damned clothesline jumped the far pulley as I reeled in the last two items.

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Get some sailboat-grade blocks. Harken is good.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:37 PM (6/7Fs)

180 And it’s the red socks. Fuck those guys in particular.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 11:35 PM (A5RD0)


Concur...although they've been holding onto a 1 - nil lead.
(SWIDT?)

Posted by: Diogenes at June 19, 2026 11:37 PM (2WIwB)

181 Moon Moon!

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 19, 2026 11:37 PM (DZ9Lv)

182 Even after wind, rain, and a mowing, there are still some feathers around.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.

Like Darleen's last birthday party

Posted by: Miklos remains stoically stoic at June 19, 2026 11:38 PM (6VErX)

183 IIRC, the Japanese have created a Fleet Information Warfare Command that creates a seamless bond with operational US fleet elements. Everything the Japanese see or hear is instantly available to US forces.

----------

Just like old times!
Posted by: Station Hypo at June 19, 2026 11:32 PM (6/7Fs)

***

Excellent WW 2 reference!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 19, 2026 11:39 PM (2WIwB)

184 Psalm 90:10 KJV - The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

Now, as most of us here are a mere two score and nine, it's never too early to consider how we want to be as we approach the creakier years.

On these videos by Nurse Jen, when she gets to the "free guide" plug at the end, you can safely quit watching. Otherwise, pretty good info:

➡️Why Healthy 70 Year Olds Suddenly Decline (6 Reasons)
https://youtu.be/qEUVfFvAi_E

➡️For Ages 60–80 If You Still Have These 7 Abilities, You’re Winning at Aging
https://youtu.be/Khs8kvCTbBA

➡️6 Surgeries You’ll Likely Regret After 65 (The Data Doesn’t Lie)
https://youtu.be/BppjYSC3-_0

There's more, but that should hold you for a few years.
🤪

Stepping away from the blog for a bit. Pizza's ready, and we'll probably have some movie time with it.🍕📽️

Posted by: mindful webworker - a bit past 29 at June 19, 2026 11:39 PM (9bb3y)

185 Its just a blog.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 19, 2026 11:40 PM (YlWIZ)

186 Get some sailboat-grade blocks. Harken is good.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:37 PM (6/7Fs)

Heh. The far pulley is an old die-cast V-belt pulley that I put up there because the original plastic pulley broke. Maybe the bearing needs oil. It's easy enough to reach, lean stepladder against pole, go up two steps, and its right there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:41 PM (1z8ji)

187 TRex playing in a hotel

https://youtube.com/shorts/jpgoizctpAQ

Suitable for work, but perhaps not The Grateful.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:42 PM (qx7Zg)

188 IIRC, the Japanese have created a Fleet Information Warfare Command that creates a seamless bond with operational US fleet elements. Everything the Japanese see or hear is instantly available to US forces.

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Just like old times!

Posted by: Station Hypo at June 19, 2026 11:32 PM (6/7Fs)

COTW.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 19, 2026 11:43 PM (dK+Kv)

189 It is interesting for Pacific War geeks that JNSDF (kaijo jietai, naval self-defense force = navy) ships carry many of the same names as notable ships from WWII. One of their "helicopter carriers" (cough, cough) is named Kaga, the carrier at Midway that got pummeled by too many SBDs, some of which should have switched to Akagi - but Dick Best took care of her.

Kirishima, Atago, Maya, on and on. Of course it's not surprising, many Japanese ship names are cultural, historical, or geographical names, so they'll stay in the rotation.

A few years back I toured a JNSDF destroyer in Kure. The rising sun ensigns on all the ships there was a striking picture. Years ago at a volunteer gig I met a JNSDF submariner, had been XO on one of their newest subs. He was starting a very prestigious year's assignment at Annapolis. Positive he got a sub command when that was over, though he never contacted me later.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2026 11:44 PM (U/Byj)

190 7Fs)

Heh. The far pulley is an old die-cast V-belt pulley that I put up there because the original plastic pulley broke. Maybe the bearing needs oil. It's easy enough to reach, lean stepladder against pole, go up two steps, and its right there.

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Then I guess I'll keep my turnbuckles plus wire rope ideas to myself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:45 PM (6/7Fs)

191
the Japanese have created a Fleet Information Warfare Command that creates a seamless bond with operational US fleet elements. Everything the Japanese see or hear is instantly available to US forces.

Does it go both ways? Is AF's fresh water condenser operating?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2026 11:47 PM (Cqx++)

192
Then I guess I'll keep my turnbuckles plus wire rope ideas to myself.
Posted by: Cicero
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I wanted to hear about a motor drive...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 19, 2026 11:47 PM (XeU6L)

193 One of their "helicopter carriers" (cough, cough) is named Kaga, the carrier at Midway that got pummeled by too many SBDs, some of which should have switched to Akagi

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Isn't that kind of like naming a cruise ship "Titanic"? Not good feng shui.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:48 PM (6/7Fs)

194 Seen on a church sign:

Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:48 PM (qx7Zg)

195 Then I guess I'll keep my turnbuckles plus wire rope ideas to myself.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:45 PM (6/7Fs)

You want to put them on a fancy hat. Like a pilgrim ninja. Right?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 19, 2026 11:48 PM (DL7HR)

196 Is AF's fresh water condenser operating?

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A classic!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:48 PM (6/7Fs)

197 The 2028 Democrat Presidential ticket will be Biden/Biden. I'm not sure if Hunter or Jill will be on top.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

**********

Ewwwwwww!! Can someone hand me the eye bleach?

Posted by: Brazzers at June 19, 2026 11:50 PM (yWllJ)

198 Probably have said it before, but when visiting Japan (which one should do), if you're a navy/WWII enthusiast, visit Kure, close to Hiroshima (also a very nice city). The battle ship Yamato museum, the JNSDF museum (housed partly in a former submarine perched on the hill), Eta Jima (their former Annapolis, still has some graduate military education), shipyards. All great.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2026 11:51 PM (U/Byj)

199 I wanted to hear about a motor drive...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 19, 2026 11:47 PM (XeU6L)

That's entirely too much work for too little return.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:52 PM (1z8ji)

200 Me: as most of us here are a mere two score and nine

Oops duh. One score and nine.

Hate it when a bunch of hot cheese and sauce slides off the pizza crust.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in Roman numberals at June 19, 2026 11:52 PM (9bb3y)

201 One of their "helicopter carriers" (cough, cough) is named Kaga, the carrier at Midway that got pummeled by too many SBDs, some of which should have switched to Akagi

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Isn't that kind of like naming a cruise ship "Titanic"? Not good feng shui.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:48 PM (6/7Fs)

We did it in World War II:

Yorktown (CV-5, CV-10)
Lexington (CV-2, CV-16)
Hornet (CV-8, CV-12)
Wasp (CV-7, CV-1

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:54 PM (qx7Zg)

202 Cicero, I haven't made it yet, but I plan to visit Capt. Joe Rochefort's grave, which is in Inglewood, close to the 405. Kind of a neat weird little historical stop for WWII buffs in SoCal.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2026 11:56 PM (U/Byj)

203 We did it in World War II:

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True. Also, Enterprise.

Then there was the Harvey Milk. Somehow nobody saw any reason to commission more than one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:56 PM (6/7Fs)

204 That first image is going to bring Howdy who is going to berate you for not taking the ills of the world seriously enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 19, 2026 11:56 PM (Zn6QU)

205 That's entirely too much work for too little return.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Mission creep. It's a way of life.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 19, 2026 11:56 PM (XeU6L)

206 202 Cicero, I haven't made it yet, but I plan to visit Capt. Joe Rochefort's grave, which is in Inglewood, close to the 405. Kind of a neat weird little historical stop for WWII buffs in SoCal.

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I didn't know that. Rochefort was a weirdo, but a true genius.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:59 PM (6/7Fs)

207 Obama library exterior is an all caps comment.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 19, 2026 11:59 PM (YlWIZ)

208 Rented a gas powered auger twice. Mostly it would sit on top and turn. Had a friend on the other side and it ate our lunch.
Rented a 4" trencher and it sat on top of the clay, mostly. And ate my lunch. (heavy bitch)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 11:29 PM (VPNgR)


Do like the plumbers do now. Use a pressure washer and some sort of trash pump.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 12:00 AM (rbvCR)

209 Jill will be on top. Hunter always fucks up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:07 PM (1z8ji)

::applause:: It took me a second but I loved the joke.

Posted by: Nerd Herd at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (NZPfR)

210 Cicero:

https://tinyurl.com/bdkmrk43

Posted by: rhomboid at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (U/Byj)

211 Just tell me that someday there will be a Battleship Yamato in space!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (nuNhM)

212 Wait. The original Enterprise wasn't sunk. It was scrapped after the war. I withdraw my comment and blame alcohol.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (6/7Fs)

213

So sorry, not sorry.

I am ashamed i had a opinion that i didn't please people here.

Rock on with your opinions.

Been nice knowing those of you who aren't assholes

Posted by: four seasons at June 20, 2026 12:02 AM (/QHx4)

214 Got the laundry in off the line. Nicely dry. Mosquitoes in evidence. And the damned clothesline jumped the far pulley as I reeled in the last two items.

Us an old tireless bike wheel with the bearings still in it. It is large enough to not jump easy.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 12:04 AM (rbvCR)

215
I've got to give a lot of these foreigners credit for trying wild new foods like biscuits-and-gravy, chicken-and-waffles, Mexican food, and all kinds of meats and sauces at the barbecue joints.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 12:05 AM (XJ22o)

216 Posted by: rhomboid at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (U/Byj)

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I didn't know he got the Medal of Freedom from Reagan. He deserved it. Thanks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 12:05 AM (6/7Fs)

217 Been nice knowing those of you who aren't assholes

Posted by: four seasons at June 20, 2026 12:02 AM (/QHx4)

That's only Whig. That guy is the Patron Saint of Knowing a Lot of Stuff.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 12:06 AM (dK+Kv)

218 The last guy was going gaga over Chipotle.

How bad are the restaurants in the rest of the world?


Much worse than you think. I saw a video where a foreign woman was nearly having an orgasm eating at Golden Corral. Chipotle is Michelin starred compared to that.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2026 12:07 AM (sabhw)

219 Wait. The original Enterprise wasn't sunk. It was scrapped after the war. I withdraw my comment and blame alcohol.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (6/7Fs)

No worries. I wish we still named carriers after famous battles and famous ships.instead of the USS Gerald R. Ford, we could have had the USS Yorktown. The USS Enterprise is already in the same class, and the third ship the USS Hornet. The Lexington, Saratoga, Ranger, and Wasp might have followed.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 12:08 AM (qx7Zg)

220 So sorry, not sorry.

I am ashamed i had a opinion that i didn't please people here.

Rock on with your opinions.

Been nice knowing those of you who aren't assholes

Posted by: four seasons at June 20, 2026 12:02 AM (/QHx4)

I, for one, like having you here, even if I do not agree with every position you take. I am ambivalent on the shacking up thing. If you are going to have kids, get married. If that's not possible, it really doesn't matter all that much.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 12:08 AM (1z8ji)

221 Then I guess I'll keep my turnbuckles plus wire rope ideas to myself.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 11:45 PM (6/7Fs)


I put in a trellis for my cane berries, and I strung new trellises for two of my grape rows, using heavy gauge wire and turnbuckles. So far so good, but the grapes are still on the old wires, the real test is when they take the full weight of the vines and grapes next summer.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 12:10 AM (rbvCR)

222 Us an old tireless bike wheel with the bearings still in it. It is large enough to not jump easy.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2026 12:04 AM (rbvCR)

The "new" pulley has been in there for several years, and the jumping is pretty recent. Post has quite a lean to it now. Probably insufficient tension on line, plus stiff bearing on pulley. Remedy: oil pulley bearing, and use loader bucket on tractor to push post back upright, and relocate prop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 12:11 AM (1z8ji)

223 Thought smorgie restaurants disappeared due to the kung flu freakout. Guess it was just the one near us, LOL.

The was one called King's Table that I & bunch of friends went to (decades ago). We were sky'd on various substances and *hongry!*

Man, that hours-old, dried-out fried chicken was The Best! We ate until we bulged. Never went back.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 12:12 AM (rdVOm)

224 The Turnbuckles would be a pretty good band name

Posted by: Miklos so opinionates at June 20, 2026 12:13 AM (6VErX)

225
212 Wait. The original Enterprise wasn't sunk. It was scrapped after the war. I withdraw my comment and blame alcohol.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (6/7Fs)

That’s why Roddenberry picked “Enterprise” for the name of his ship. It was the magic carrier that went through every battle unscathed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 12:14 AM (nuNhM)

226 {{{four seasons}}} don't you scurry off anywhere, I think your whole comment was misinterpreted, I don't know, sometimes you just jump in here and post based on the content, you don't mean to offend anybody and yet somehow you do. People get over that here. You are a very fun person.

The Scots are having a grand time in Boston and the suburbs, they are called the Tartan Army and they proudly sing our national anthem quite more enthusiastically than our paid sports oligarchs do. What they are enjoying most about America right now is not our food but our freedom.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 12:16 AM (0nHVk)

227 The Turnbuckles would be a pretty good band name
Posted by: Miklos so opinionates


They'd be a modern, overproduced, autotuned band.

Debut album "Float like a butterfly, Sing like a bee."

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 12:16 AM (VHUov)

228 That’s why Roddenberry picked “Enterprise” for the name of his ship. It was the magic carrier that went through every battle unscathed.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Far from unscathed

The Big E took numerous bomb hits

Posted by: Miklos the Stickler at June 20, 2026 12:16 AM (6VErX)

229 They'd be a modern, overproduced, autotuned band.

Debut album "Float like a butterfly, Sing like a bee."
Posted by: mikeski

And?

I'm only in it for the money

Posted by: Mercenary Musical Miklos at June 20, 2026 12:18 AM (6VErX)

230 Before I jump into the fray here, did you call Piper a whore?

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 12:19 AM (vE0+H)

231 Hour of the Wolf, ditto on naming ships. Nothing against the recent public figures having carriers/etc named after them, necessarily - but come on, let's stick to classic names, naval battles, and naval combat heroes. This isn't hard.

I'll take the USS Kolombongara or USS Tassafaronga, even a USS Savo Island (an epic defeat and disaster, in memoriam to the hands lost) over a Harvey Milk or Cesar Chavez (even before the recent revelations).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 20, 2026 12:19 AM (U/Byj)

232 Wow, that's some serious sh@t-stirring, ...

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 12:22 AM (rdVOm)

233 Just tell me that someday there will be a Battleship Yamato in space!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 12:01 AM (nuNhM)


There already is!

https://is.gd/wrft7M

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 12:24 AM (ZVgZ4)

234 Been nice knowing those of you who aren't assholes

Posted by: four seasons
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Hey, flouncing's not permitted. Just take a minute.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2026 12:24 AM (VPNgR)

235 230 Before I jump into the fray here, did you call Piper a whore?
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 12:19 AM (vE0

Yes, she did. But if possible, I would like to let it go. It’s the last comment I am going to make on it. Thank you for understanding that part, it is appreciated.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 12:25 AM (Wmg4n)

236 232 Wow, that's some serious sh@t-stirring, ...

Posted by: JQ
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Looked back, don't understand the big beef.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2026 12:27 AM (VPNgR)

237 This is still one of my favorite accidental finds on YouTube. An Irishman realized he didn't have much time to live, so he made a recording to be played at his burial.

Here it is:

https://tinyurl.com/47ba9m43

Posted by: Orson at June 20, 2026 12:27 AM (dIske)

238 Been nice knowing those of you who aren't assholes

Posted by: four seasons at June 20, 2026 12:02 AM (/QHx4)

Four Seasons, come back.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 12:28 AM (BGSp9)

239 I do not think that was her intent at all, I really don't and Piper, I would never support this if I thought that she did. I am not trying to stir anything up here.

I'd better skeedaddle to Hooterville, life was simpler there.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 12:31 AM (0nHVk)

240 Debut album "Float like a butterfly, Sing like a bee."
Posted by: mikeski


Can’t understand the lyrics. I just hear a buzzing in my ears.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 12:31 AM (ZVgZ4)

241 If Turkey loses tonight, the US clinches its group... but this soccer game is kind of a shitshow.

The ref absolutely gives zero fucks, though. (That's a cardin').

Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2026 12:32 AM (wiYsG)

242 No one should be mean to Piper... I mean, she's just recovered from having a tumor, right?

Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2026 12:35 AM (wiYsG)

243 239 I do not think that was her intent at all, I really don't and Piper, I would never support this if I thought that she did. I am not trying to stir anything up here.

I'd better skeedaddle to Hooterville, life was simpler there.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June

I really don’t want to rehash this, but it’s all the way at the top, after my wolf comment, it’s not the first time, but I hope it’s the last. I don’t want her to leave either, despite it. I hope she stays. Truly.

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 12:36 AM (Wmg4n)

244 Since Piper has been gracious, everyone please let the whole thing go. Four seasons, you're welcome to stay and comment on any other topic you desire.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 20, 2026 12:36 AM (bfFZM)

245
I did not know that any C96 was full-auto.

In the 1890s when it was designed regular machine guns were pretty new. I don't think full auto hand held at all existed til towards the end of WW1. There may have been some Chinese copies with that feature designed in the 20s...it seemed to be a status thing in some non major countries to have a full auto pistol. I think Argentina or Spain made some full auto 1911 copies

Posted by: Azjaeger at June 20, 2026 12:37 AM (3/XaG)

246 Anyway, y’all, as I said, it was said, it’s over, I would like it to not be a thing for me or her, and I hope she stays. Meanwhile, I am off to bed. It’s been an interesting night!

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 12:39 AM (Wmg4n)

247 Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 12:31 AM (0nHVk)

With a heartfelt apology to Pipes for failing to honor her request this single time - I want to state for my own record that 27 comments later any ambiguity of comment #17 was clarified in words and punctuated in tone. I am a precise writer, I know precision when I see it.

Carry on.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 12:41 AM (vE0+H)

248 Thanks, WD. Fir everything. Night again y’all. Enjoy your evening.

Ps. Snoopy is patriotic all over x and that is pretty fun, to feel like we are back! 🇺🇸

Posted by: Piper at June 20, 2026 12:41 AM (Wmg4n)

249 Hey, flouncing's not permitted. Just take a minute.
Posted by: Braenyard


Yeah, even the Horde's assholes are better people than 99% of the rest of the Internet.

Posted by: as mikeski underestimates at June 20, 2026 12:42 AM (VHUov)

250 Saw 2 fairly old movies in the last 24 hours. (I may re-post this on the movie thread-- IF I can ever remember when it is):

The Favorite, circa 2010, and

Tea With Mussolini, circa 1999

Thought the first one was really interesting & well done, and the second one sukked.

Franco Zefferili made "Mussolini." He was an interesting character. He was elected to the Italian Senate on the Forza Italia ticket, Berlusconi's right wing party. In that capacity, he spoke in favor of the Biblical injunctions against homosexuality. Many years later, he announced he was gay.



Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 12:43 AM (RCjYY)

251 They broke the seal with Franklin Roosevelt cause he died. Then JFK cause he died. Eventually the ego monsters that pols are ALL had to have carriers named after them if they could get away with it. And of course Doris Miller, who did the sort of things that traditionally get a destroyer named after you, but the pander must flow. Carriers should be named after past carriers, especially the ones from WW2. Not presidents no matter what their politics were.

Posted by: Azjaeger at June 20, 2026 12:44 AM (3/XaG)

252 I will probably get banned now but there is a difference between commenting on content and commenting on comments.

This place is special, helped me through the toughest times of my life. I am forever grateful for each and every one of you.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 12:44 AM (0nHVk)

253 It looks like I missed something when I was off reading all the wonderful content.

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2026 12:44 AM (6mVIs)

254 Love ya Debby. If you get banned I will ban myself.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 12:45 AM (vE0+H)

255 There's a thing going on on social media that's fantastic. Foreign fans here for the World Cup are posting all about how great this county is, great food, friendly people, lovely vistas, and it's just the most wholesome thing in the world.

I completely agree.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 10:09 PM (viF8m)

I was told by someone who works in downtown Seattle that they really cleaned up the city for this: . planted trees, cleaned out the demented drug addicts... which only shows it can be done if they just want to do it. Anyway, Im looking forward to the Australian yt on the beauty of mountainous seatte. Rainier was especially lovely today.

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2026 12:47 AM (6mVIs)

256 The ketchup only burger is really funny.

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2026 12:49 AM (6mVIs)

257 When's the pride day game between Iran and Egypt?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2026 12:49 AM (VPNgR)

258 If you get banned I will ban myself.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 12:45 AM (vE0+H)

The hell you will. Who will I look to for my own thoughts?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 12:51 AM (dK+Kv)

259 242 No one should be mean to Piper... I mean, she's just recovered from having a tumor, right?
Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2026 12:35 AM (wiYsG)

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I heard that she was dead for like, two weeks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 20, 2026 12:52 AM (6/7Fs)

260 I think four seasons owes Piper an apology for comment #17. And that's all I have to say about that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 12:53 AM (1z8ji)

261 Did someone mention assholes?

Posted by: Hello Fresh at June 20, 2026 12:54 AM (6/7Fs)

262 Lazarus was only dead for 4 days.

So... Piper broke his record.

Posted by: mnw at June 20, 2026 12:56 AM (RCjYY)

263 I am going to bed and I wish you sweet dreams Horde.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 12:56 AM (0nHVk)

264 I am going to bed and I wish you sweet dreams Horde.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 12:56 AM (0nHVk)

Night, Debby. Sleep tight.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 12:58 AM (1z8ji)

265 I remain baffled by the kerfuffle despite scrolling back and forth several times.

Those who know me would suggest that I typically remain baffled. Without regard to context.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 12:58 AM (BGSp9)

266 >>I was told by someone who works in downtown Seattle that they really cleaned up the city for this: . planted trees, cleaned out the demented drug addicts... which only shows it can be done if they just want to do it.

Almost all of us are born with a love of beauty and happiness. Learning to enjoy misery and ugliness is taught.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 12:58 AM (viF8m)

267 The hell you will. Who will I look to for my own thoughts?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 12:51 AM (dK+Kv)

LOL

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 12:59 AM (vE0+H)

268 252 I will probably get banned now but there is a difference between commenting on content and commenting on comments.

This place is special, helped me through the toughest times of my life. I am forever grateful for each and every one of you.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at June 20, 2026 12:44 AM (0nHVk)

Just my two assholish cents: This place has become way too sensitive. It's okay to have very strong disagreements. I can think you're (not Debby, you!) are grossly wrong on something important and it not be the end of the world. At the end of the day, I'm just a jerk with an internet connection. Like you. Maybe consider that being upset about my opinions of your opinions is ridiculous. Now universalize that sentiment.

Is now a good time to bring up the War of Northern Aggression?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:01 AM (DL7HR)

269 Spent quite a bit of time with my friend Claude today. He expounded at length on the joys and perils of data aggregation.

Apparently it is better to have all your data in one place to facilitate having it stolen. Or something like that.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 01:03 AM (BGSp9)

270
I remain baffled by the kerfuffle despite scrolling back and forth several times.

Those who know me would suggest that I typically remain baffled. Without regard to context.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego

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Same here. I thought maybe some comments had been removed or something because I remain baffled.

But that's okay! Don't anyone explain it to me -- really.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 01:04 AM (XJ22o)

271 >>>Maybe consider that being upset about my opinions of your opinions is ridiculous.

That's stupid. /s

People need to have a heart attack or something to lighten up about internet stuff.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:04 AM (dK+Kv)

272 I'm just happy all the tourists love our food.

Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:04 AM (oq9dX)

273 Is now a good time to bring up the War of Northern Aggression?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:01 AM (DL7HR)

Is there ever a bad time? And don’t say the boys in nutmeg or butternut or whatever are a metaphorical Mary Anne.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 01:06 AM (BGSp9)

274 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 01:04 AM (XJ22o)

I was going to make a joke about white out on your screen here, but probably inappropriate.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 01:06 AM (vE0+H)

275
I was told by someone who works in downtown Seattle that they really cleaned up the city for this: . planted trees, cleaned out the demented drug addicts... which only shows it can be done if they just want to do it.

Posted by: LASue

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Interesting, aren't we supposed to love the "authentic," gritty, non-bougie, quaint richness that the unhomed and justice-involved bring us? As for those billionaires and the garish stuff they build -- bye!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 01:06 AM (XJ22o)

276 How do these Euro World Cup fans find the money to fly all over North America to attend metric football games in different cities? Was there some sort of airline package deal available?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:07 AM (1z8ji)

277 Oh no, someone is wrong on the internet! What will we ever do?!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 01:07 AM (ZVgZ4)

278 Somebody posted link to a clip of brit boys experiencing American (Texas?) BBQ for the first time.

I LOL'd!

Yeah, guys-- FLAVOR. Beats the 'ell out of beans and mushy peas, right?

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:08 AM (rdVOm)

279 I'm just happy all the tourists love our food.
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:04 AM (oq9dX)

And also Ella Langley. An affectation I can understand.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 01:08 AM (BGSp9)

280
Almost all of us are born with a love of beauty and happiness. Learning to enjoy misery and ugliness is taught.
Posted by: JackStraw

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That's why you have to be educated to appreciate the new Ob-scenity in Chicago. It takes a trained eye.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 20, 2026 01:08 AM (XJ22o)

281 Oh no, someone is wrong on the internet! What will we ever do?!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 01:07 AM (ZVgZ4)

I can't wait until my youngest discovers internet message boards. Dude would argue if you offered him ice cream.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:09 AM (dK+Kv)

282 Seattle did good today! https://youtube.com/shorts/q4g5v0XnEpA?si=Ij-8HtlBDwRsNpbO

I am in town but avoided downtown.

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2026 01:09 AM (6mVIs)

283 Shucks. Since Piper's gone for the night, I missed my chance to ask if she made soup for Soup (Saijo) so he'd take his medicine.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 20, 2026 01:09 AM (qx7Zg)

284 My pork loin was delicious.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2026 01:09 AM (VPNgR)

285 The Brit guys: are you talking about JOLLY?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 01:09 AM (ZVgZ4)

286 How do these Euro World Cup fans find the money to fly all over North America to attend metric football games in different cities? Was there some sort of airline package deal available?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


* gets out yarn and thumbtacks *

I'm not sure yet, but I bet it's my tax dollars, somehow.

Posted by: mikeski w/ tinfoil hat at June 20, 2026 01:10 AM (VHUov)

287 Yeah, guys-- FLAVOR. Beats the 'ell out of beans and mushy peas, right?
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:08 AM (rdVOm)

Brits can do better. Prime rib roast with Yorkshire pudding. Shepherd's pie. Cornish pasties. Even bangers and mash.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:11 AM (1z8ji)

288 US clinches its group in World Cup after the late game.

Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2026 01:11 AM (wiYsG)

289 Dude would argue if you offered him ice cream.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:09 AM (dK+Kv)

No he wouldn't.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 01:12 AM (vE0+H)

290 Don’t forget to use the red yarn!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 01:12 AM (ZVgZ4)

291 Dude would argue if you offered him ice cream.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:09 AM (dK+Kv)

No he wouldn't.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 01:12 AM (vE0+H)

I am going to get him.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:13 AM (dK+Kv)

292 I'm not saying the full English breakfast is choice A, but you could do a lot worse.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:13 AM (DL7HR)

293 And also Ella Langley. An affectation I can understand.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at June 20, 2026 01:08 AM (BGSp9)

She's cute. Definitely has singers' lungs, LOL. Too bad about the ink.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:14 AM (1z8ji)

294 Confused by the Jesus genetics. If the Holy Spirit can't provide a Y chromosome, how does he provide the second X chromosome in the diagram? Or did Jesus have Turner syndrome?

Posted by: frankie at June 20, 2026 01:14 AM (a16Yj)

295 >> How do these Euro World Cup fans find the money to fly all over North America to attend metric football games in different cities? Was there some sort of airline package deal available?

It wasn't until I started traveling a lot internationally that I understood the difference between what we consider big sports to what people around the world consider it. It's way beyond the World Cup and just Europe.

I remember seeing throngs of Indians clearing customs with me for some cricket match. Not a WC type thing, just some lesser game. Happened all over with rugby and soccer too.

They take their sports way more seriously than we do.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 01:14 AM (viF8m)

296 I'm not saying the full English breakfast is choice A, but you could do a lot worse.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:13 AM (DL7HR)

When Brit Lass first offered me the full English, I thought she meant something completely different.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 01:15 AM (vE0+H)

297 I never understand what goes on here.....

I thought the Fido Feline and Kollege memes were funny!

I don't quite get the Golden Calf one, but I've been Golden Corral in Victorville, north of L.A. it was over the Christmas holidays and wife and I were just driving around. Since it was the holiday season she said we could eat there. It was raining lightly when we went in.When we came out an hour or two later it was snowing and there were 4 inches of snow on the car. The ride back over the pass to the civilized world was....interesting.

She says she'll never go to Golden Corral again. She says if I want to go I can take her cousin.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 01:15 AM (QGaXH)

298
Meet exoplanet HD 80606 b, one hell of an extreme "hot Jupiter".

https://t.ly/lzDqa

It orbits a sun-like star about 127 ly away in Ursa Major. It's about 4x Jupiter mass, but about the same radius. It's orbit is one hell of a skinny ellipse, eccentricity of 0.93 and semi-major axis of about .46 AU.

That ellipse is so extreme, it's periastron is 1/10th that of Mercury. JSWT has been observing it and during that close approach, it's temperature shoots up by 1100F, far more than they thought. Then, after it whips around, it cools back down. If you plopped it our solar system, the apoapsis would be a smidge less the 1AU. A very comet like orbit for one huge gas giant.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 01:17 AM (w6EFb)

299 I remember seeing throngs of Indians clearing customs with me for some cricket match. Not a WC type thing, just some lesser game. Happened all over with rugby and soccer too.

They take their sports way more seriously than we do.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 01:14 AM (viF8m)

The question remains. All those airline flights run into very serious money. It's a lifestyle that the average working stiff simply cannot afford. Do they put it all on a credit card, and then work two-three years to pay off the balance?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:18 AM (1z8ji)

300 296 I'm not saying the full English breakfast is choice A, but you could do a lot worse.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:13 AM (DL7HR)

When Brit Lass first offered me the full English, I thought she meant something completely different.
Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 01:15 AM (vE0+H)

Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought it would happen to me ...

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:18 AM (DL7HR)

301 Some of these guys that love our food could apply for asylum. I feel sorry they have to eat meat pies and pasties.

Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:18 AM (oq9dX)

302 Atheists don't think God can create a chromosome. Wild.

Also what is their purported science behind the pregnancy?

I know someone is just trying to upset Christians or whatever but this is what you call being educated way beyond one's intelligence.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 01:19 AM (vE0+H)

303 That ellipse is so extreme, it's periastron is 1/10th that of Mercury. JSWT has been observing it and during that close approach, it's temperature shoots up by 1100F, far more than they thought.
Posted by: publius


Did they account for the fossil fuels? And the cow farts?

Posted by: The Left at June 20, 2026 01:20 AM (VHUov)

304
270
I remain baffled by the kerfuffle despite scrolling back and forth several times.

I most strongly object to you calling this a kerfluffle. It was quite obviously a contretemps.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 01:22 AM (nuNhM)

305 Atheists don't think God can create a chromosome. Wild.

Also what is their purported science behind the pregnancy?

I know someone is just trying to upset Christians or whatever but this is what you call being educated way beyond one's intelligence.
Posted by: ...


Some things are so stupid only an intellectual can believe them.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 01:22 AM (VHUov)

306 I most strongly object to you calling this a kerfluffle. It was quite obviously a contretemps.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 01:22 AM (nuNhM)

Definitely a tinge of ballyhoo.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:23 AM (dK+Kv)

307 The question remains. All those airline flights run into very serious money. It's a lifestyle that the average working stiff simply cannot afford. Do they put it all on a credit card, and then work two-three years to pay off the balance?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:18 AM (1z8ji)

Interest only home loan is how my brother-in-law does it. He lives in England. But at the end he owes the entire balance of his house. It's funny as he thinks he's getting his mom and dads stuff but they are leaving it to my wife and I.

Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2026 01:23 AM (wjnjX)

308 I think most of the tourists are just amazed at our teeth.

Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:23 AM (oq9dX)

309 I think most of the tourists are just amazed at our teeth.

Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:23 AM (oq9dX)

I think at least 70% is merely influencer hustle.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:25 AM (dK+Kv)

310 306 I most strongly object to you calling this a kerfluffle. It was quite obviously a contretemps.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 01:22 AM (nuNhM)

Definitely a tinge of ballyhoo.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:23 AM (dK+Kv)

It had the scent of violence. So it were a donnybrook.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:25 AM (DL7HR)

311 Atheists don't think God can create a chromosome. Wild.
Posted by: ...


All the complex organic chemicals needed for life just sort of came together in a puddle one day. -- some people

We're going to run out of oil soon because the Earth doesn't produce simple organic chemicals. -- the same people

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 01:26 AM (VHUov)

312 >>The question remains. All those airline flights run into very serious money. It's a lifestyle that the average working stiff simply cannot afford. Do they put it all on a credit card, and then work two-three years to pay off the balance?

Yea, I don't completely understand it either. On average they make less than we do. But I think it has a lot to do with lifestyle.

We live bigger in our daily lives than they do. All those restaurants and bars they are bragging on are everyday for us and we have a lot of toys. But I do know they are way more fanatical about sports than we are. This World Cup is not their first rodeo.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2026 01:26 AM (viF8m)

313 That ellipse is so extreme, it's periastron is 1/10th that of Mercury. JSWT has been observing it and during that close approach, it's temperature shoots up by 1100F, far more than they thought. Then, after it whips around, it cools back down. If you plopped it our solar system, the apoapsis would be a smidge less the 1AU. A very comet like orbit for one huge gas giant.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 01:17 AM (w6EFb)

I got tripped up by "periastron". Sounds like a skin tag you know where. Perihelion works for me. It's a different Solar system, but its star is still a Sun.

Wouldn't surprise me to learn that some sort of life might exist on that planet; sure enough the pot is getting stirred regularly!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:26 AM (1z8ji)

314
The heat pulse that thing gets when it whips close to the star drives shock wave winds, like 11,000 mph.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 01:27 AM (w6EFb)

315 My mother in law tried and failed to smuggle a box of brownie mix into England in her carry on once. Got it to England and english customs trashed it.

I wish they would just move here.

Posted by: Reforger at June 20, 2026 01:28 AM (wjnjX)

316 I'm sure there are many Brit/UK foods that I'd enjoy. It's just fun to bash the bland stuff.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:29 AM (rdVOm)

317 I think at least 70% is merely influencer hustle.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:25 AM (dK+Kv)

This is very cynical, and probably true. But to paraphrase Philippians, it is best that the virtues of the US be preached whether sincerely or not.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 20, 2026 01:30 AM (DL7HR)

318 US clinches its group in World Cup after the late game.
Posted by: Locarno
......

I don't know what this means but it almost sounds like sports or something.

Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:31 AM (oq9dX)

319 >>My mother in law tried and failed to smuggle a box of brownie mix into England in her carry on once. Got it to England and english customs trashed it.

Uh-huh. Bet they fought over which of them got to take it home and prepare for themselves!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:31 AM (rdVOm)

320 Some of these guys that love our food could apply for asylum. I feel sorry they have to eat meat pies and pasties.
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:18 AM (oq9dX)

A good meat pie, or Cornish pastie is a thing of beauty. Basically all the elements of a burger and fries, just packaged differently.

When I am in Arizona, and go to Phoenix or Glendale for an event, I try to stop at the George and Dragon pub on Central in PHX, for a beer and some Brit grub, because they do a fine job of it there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:32 AM (1z8ji)

321 Yeah, even the Horde's assholes are better people than 99% of the rest of the Internet.
Posted by: as mikeski underestimates a


*buffs nails*

Posted by: El Mikloso at June 20, 2026 01:32 AM (6VErX)

322 306 I most strongly object to you calling this a kerfluffle. It was quite obviously a contretemps.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 20, 2026 01:22 AM (nuNhM)

Definitely a tinge of ballyhoo.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 01:23 AM (dK+Kv)

And Donnybrook is right out....,

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 01:32 AM (QGaXH)

323 I don't know what this means but it almost sounds like sports or something.

Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:31 AM (oq9dX)

It's football!!

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 01:32 AM (vE0+H)

324 >> I got tripped up by "periastron". Sounds like a skin tag you know where.

Hah. The most general term is "-apsis", periapsis vs apoapsis. "Astron" means star in general.

Something closer to what you envisioned would be one of several for the apsides of a black hole. "Peribothron" would mean "near(est) the hole".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 01:33 AM (w6EFb)

325 When Brit Lass first offered me the full English, I thought she meant something completely different.

You should have seen what happened when a British exchange student asked me to knock her up back when I was in college. Em-barr-assing!

Posted by: Weirddave at June 20, 2026 01:33 AM (VOQu9)

326 Hah. The most general term is "-apsis", periapsis vs apoapsis. "Astron" means star in general.

Something closer to what you envisioned would be one of several for the apsides of a black hole. "Peribothron" would mean "near(est) the hole".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 01:33 AM (w6EFb)

Imma go with "closest approach" and "furthest excursion". I wonder if that "hot Jupiter" has moons? Sounds to me like what we really have there is a double star, but the second one was just too small to fire up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:36 AM (1z8ji)

327 316 I'm sure there are many Brit/UK foods that I'd enjoy. It's just fun to bash the bland stuff.
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:29 AM (rdVOm)

There is an honest to gawd Fish and Chips place in a storefront near me. One wall is filled with all manner of English packaged foods.

Union Jack Fish and Chips in Huntington Beach, Ca

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 01:36 AM (QGaXH)

328 You should have seen what happened when a British exchange student asked me to knock her up back when I was in college. Em-barr-assing!
Posted by: Weirddave at June 20, 2026 01:33 AM (VOQu9)

LOL!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:37 AM (1z8ji)

329 Funny thing comes to mind. One of the best hamburger joints in Calgary, back in the 1980's was Big Dick's burgers on 14th Street NW. Big Dick was a Brit, tall guy with an Afro haircut, and he made damned fine burgers and fries. None finer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:41 AM (1z8ji)

330 A good meat pie, or Cornish pastie is a thing of beauty.
.....

Kind of like a Hot Pocket?

Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:41 AM (oq9dX)

331 Thank you WeirdDave for a most interesting ONT and great content, though I didn't understand half of what went on....and I read the comments from the beginning!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 01:41 AM (QGaXH)

332 "Peribothron" would mean "near(est) the hole".
Posted by: publius


And yet I've never heard the word on a golf course.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 01:42 AM (VHUov)

333 Funny thing comes to mind. One of the best hamburger joints in Calgary, back in the 1980's was Big Dick's burgers on 14th Street NW. Big Dick was a Brit, tall guy with an Afro haircut, and he made damned fine burgers and fries. None finer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Hahahaha, and the jokes wrote themselves!

"Hey, let's go get Big Dick's!"

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:43 AM (rdVOm)

334 Kind of like a Hot Pocket?
Posted by: wth


They're big. One is enough for dinner. But that sort of food, yes. A calzone with stew ingredients instead of pizza ingredients.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 01:44 AM (VHUov)

335 Kind of like a Hot Pocket?
Posted by: wth at June 20, 2026 01:41 AM (oq9dX)

Sort of, I guess. A Cornish pastie was the Cornish miner's lunch, back in the day. A turnover in the form of a semicircle, made of flaky pastry, stuffed with meat, potatoes, and veggies. They could be warmed up over a carbide miners' lamp. That general format for a hand-held meal shows up all over the world.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:46 AM (1z8ji)

336 I have no idea what is going on here and that's ok. Don't need to know or look back at thousands of comments. This, too, shall pass. I might pass before it passes. Or my husband passes out from anemia.

Because I might be on here off and on all night/morning/eternity.

My husband's mouth thing from dental graft is of course bleeding again at bedtime to make this day more special.

More like a cut/wound vs gunshot this time. We hope that's a good thing as we are tired. He claims he can bleed alone this time vs me helping determine if it's getting better or not. Golly.

We both just want to go to sleep. Will probably wake to a puddle of blood in the wee hours. The DMD called him tonight (routine) and said that was probably the worst of it. We have her cell # and maybe should ask her over.

I think the worst of it is the entire deal. Ordeal.

I should suggest a leech next time to gross him out entirely (and me as well). That will be my next advice.

Or I will do drugs, too, to honor our vows.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2026 01:46 AM (hzuYO)

337
The rule of thumb for apsides is you use the Greek names and Latin for the proper names. Except when you don't. It's perijove for Jupiter, not some peri-Zeus.

For Mecury, it would be peri/apophermion.

Venus is a special case. Using Greek, it would be periaphrodision (or something close), which sounds like aphrodisiac. If you used the Latin, you'd get peri-venereion (or whatever the Latin declension or whatever you call it would be), but that sound like venereal, so they went with pericytherion, after the island Aphrodite was born on. Or maybe came out of the sea to, or however the legend goes.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 01:46 AM (w6EFb)

338 333 Hahahaha, and the jokes wrote themselves!

"Hey, let's go get Big Dick's!"
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:43 AM (rdVOm)

Kind of like the t-shirts that advertised imaginary products branded 'Big Johnson'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 01:47 AM (QGaXH)

339 Hahahaha, and the jokes wrote themselves!

"Hey, let's go get Big Dick's!"
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:43 AM (rdVOm)

Oh yeah. Jokes abounded, and Dick was well aware of them. It was a one-man shop, and I think he just burned out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:48 AM (1z8ji)

340 Sorry you're (both!) having a rough go, ChristyBlinky.

Today/tonight has been, well, Less Than Stellar here too. Thought I'd turn in early but noooooo. Can't sleep either.

Sending good vibes your way!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:50 AM (rdVOm)

341 I think the worst of it is the entire deal. Ordeal.

I should suggest a leech next time to gross him out entirely (and me as well). That will be my next advice.

Or I will do drugs, too, to honor our vows.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2026 01:46 AM (hzuYO)

Maybe a little alum applied to the wound would stop the bleeding? Or a hot iron?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:51 AM (1z8ji)

342 Kind of like the t-shirts that advertised imaginary products branded 'Big Johnson'
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

I remember those. Many of the guys at work wore them. Crude, but funny.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:52 AM (rdVOm)

343 I'm sure there are many Brit/UK foods that I'd enjoy. It's just fun to bash the bland stuff.
Posted by: JQ


Mostly just the spotted dick, whirled peas, and (whole) fish pie.
A lot of Brit food is boring because it is actually too familiar.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 01:52 AM (/lPRQ)

344 Last match of the group stage for the US will be very boring: we have already clinched first place. Turkey is already eliminated and guaranteed dead last position in the group. It's going to be a match of backups and people getting World Cup experience 'just in case' up against a team that was expected to do really good and... hasn't scored a single goal yet.

Meanwhile, Australia and Paraguay will probably be having a spectacularly dirty match. They both have had a pair of games Bill Laimbeer would approve of, and I don't think they'll tone it down when they fight to see who gets second place.

For those who aren't soccer fans, usually the US team tends to have amazing defense and nonexistent offense. This US team is decidedly not like that: we actually have a good offense that scores pretty well! But, as if to even things out, our defense is sketchy as hell. Those guys are definitely going to get burned by a better team.

Posted by: Locarno at June 20, 2026 01:53 AM (wiYsG)

345 I remember those. Many of the guys at work wore them. Crude, but funny.
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:52 AM (rdVOm)

The art work on them was very good, for the genre it was.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:54 AM (1z8ji)

346 US clinches its group in World Cup after the late game.
Posted by: Locarno
......

I don't know what this means but it almost sounds like sports or something.
Posted by: wth
===

Maybe Obamao can show us his Sweet Sixteen picks to help us plebes understand.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 01:54 AM (/lPRQ)

347 336. Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2026 01:46 AM (hzuYO)

Hope you and hubs are ok.

Not to turn this into a math blog but the fifth and seventh prime numbers will help you find the answers.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 01:55 AM (QGaXH)

348 When Brit Lass first offered me the full English, I thought she meant something completely different.

You should have seen what happened when a British exchange student asked me to knock her up back when I was in college. Em-barr-assing!
Posted by: Weirddave

If they ask you if you want to "smoke a fag"... whatever it is it is not worth the risk.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 01:57 AM (/lPRQ)

349
Today/tonight has been, well, Less Than Stellar here too. Thought I'd turn in early but noooooo. Can't sleep either.

Sending good vibes your way!
Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 01:50 AM (rdVOm)
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Thanks. Sorry you're having a bad one, too.

I don't know why the font grew for this comment.

My comment on the ONT, I started disliking phone booths and holding the receiver far away from my face as it stunk like halitosis. Gross. I have many issues and that one is in the past.

The issue I was made fun of this week was the opening of an ironing board. The one my mother had/has weighs about 50lbs and I think it pinched my finger or something as a kid. I don't like them.

Maybe I could iron my husband's mouth wound like the cowboys. Give him whiskey and stick my curling iron up there to staunch the bleeding. My branding iron is in the shop.

Oh how I want to go to sleep then wake at 0800 for his antibiotic and to let the repair guy in to work in the basement. I will probably look pretty scary at that point.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2026 01:57 AM (hzuYO)

350 Temple of Aphrodite, Kythira from Wikipedia -

https://is.gd/aa57gJ

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 01:59 AM (ZVgZ4)

351 Maybe a little alum applied to the wound would stop the bleeding? Or a hot iron?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:51 AM (1z8ji)
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Oh, lawsie. I swear I did not see this comment before I mentioned ironing his bleeding. Bless my husband's heart for real.

Now I am concerned that I am thinking like AOP in the wee hours of hades. I may go stare at him and see if he's still with us. I knew this was not going to be easy and he's lucky to be married to such a fine looking old bag who went to nursing skool, but not dental.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2026 02:01 AM (hzuYO)

352 Well, midnight here, and I am off to the rack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 02:02 AM (1z8ji)

353 Good Night AOP

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 02:03 AM (QGaXH)

354 'Night AOP. Thanks for the info on Brit food!

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 02:05 AM (rdVOm)

355 May God bless you and keep you and give you the rest you need to carry on, ChristyBlinkyTheGreat. Good night!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 20, 2026 02:05 AM (ZVgZ4)

356 Now I am concerned that I am thinking like AOP in the wee hours of hades. I may go stare at him and see if he's still with us. I knew this was not going to be easy and he's lucky to be married to such a fine looking old bag who went to nursing skool, but not dental.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 20, 2026 02:01 AM (hzuYO)

Alum was a semi-serious suggestion. It's used in "styptic pencils" to stop bleeding from razor cuts when shaving. Maybe get some of that Israeli bandage material that is meant to stop bleeding from gunshot wounds, and apply a little wad of it as a compress to the wound in his mouth?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 02:06 AM (1z8ji)

357 >> I wonder if that "hot Jupiter" has moons? Sounds to me like what we really have there is a double star,

A moon's orbit couldn't survive that close approach. The tidal gradient would just disrupt the orbit. The parent star is part of a binary, and that extreme eccentricity of the planet is likely the result of something called the Karzai or something close mechanism. That can drive eccentricity to extremes like this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at June 20, 2026 02:07 AM (w6EFb)

358 Thank you, WD for the ONT. Thank you, Horde, for the community. Goodnight all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 20, 2026 02:09 AM (CHHv1)

359 Well, off to bed for real now. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 02:09 AM (1z8ji)

360 Well....the sun has long since set into the pacific and tomorrow's June Gloom has begun wafting in. I guess I'll watch a little of the Sherlock Holmes movie I DVR'd off the Movies! channel and then call it a night..,,,

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at June 20, 2026 02:10 AM (QGaXH)

361 All swell that end swell, then.

*corks wine, chugs dregs*

Ready for another hot summer's day tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/Z6vFt7FTBQ8

G'nite, keeds.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - all swol wots end swoll at June 20, 2026 02:14 AM (9bb3y)

362 Fellow was digging a hole with a 4000 psi pressure washer.
Store wants real money for a 4000 psi pressure washer.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2026 02:17 AM (VPNgR)

363 Fellow was digging a hole with a 4000 psi pressure washer.
Store wants real money for a 4000 psi pressure washer.
Posted by: Braenyard


Sounds like the right tool for digging.

Through sandstone.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 02:21 AM (VHUov)

364 Fellow was digging a hole with a 4000 psi pressure washer.
Store wants real money for a 4000 psi pressure washer.
Posted by: Braenyard

Suddenly, my yard & landscape issues seem trivial.

Posted by: JQ at June 20, 2026 02:23 AM (rdVOm)

365 141 The 2028 Democrat Presidential ticket will be Biden/Biden. I'm not sure if Hunter or Jill will be on top.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

Jill will be on top. Hunter always fucks up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 11:07 PM (1z8ji)


{takes notes}

Nice one. Now I'm thinking of her as Dr. Cowgirl Biden, and wondering how long my silly brain will hold onto it.

Posted by: SciVo at June 20, 2026 02:26 AM (Sy6m/)

366 Now I'm thinking of her as Dr. Cowgirl Biden, and wondering how long my silly brain will hold onto it.
Posted by: SciVo


Alcohol can help you forget things like that.

Posted by: mikeski at June 20, 2026 02:29 AM (VHUov)

367 If they ask you if you want to "smoke a fag"... whatever it is it is not worth the risk.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 20, 2026 01:57 AM (/lPRQ)

I can't count the number of times Brit Lass has said to me "Oh I could murder a fag!". And she doesn't even smoke.

Posted by: ... at June 20, 2026 02:38 AM (vE0+H)

368 Rented a gas powered auger twice. Mostly it would sit on top and turn. Had a friend on the other side and it ate our lunch
Posted by: Braenyard
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Using those things is counterintuitive. Unlike a drill, you don't push it into the dirt. You actually have to lift it up so that the end is just scraping the ground.
The first time I rented one I had your experience. The auger would dig in and then we couldn't hold it, it would just torque us around. My older neighbor across the street came over and told us that it was entertaining, but he didn't want the siren noise when he had to call 911, and then explained that we had to hold it up so that it could lift the dirt up and out. We did that and dug 11 2.5' deep post holes for a fence in a little over an hour.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 20, 2026 02:39 AM (RW118)

369 Sort of, I guess. A Cornish pastie was the Cornish miner's lunch, back in the day. A turnover in the form of a semicircle, made of flaky pastry, stuffed with meat, potatoes, and veggies. They could be warmed up over a carbide miners' lamp. That general format for a hand-held meal shows up all over the world.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Russian Piroshki. Wife uses cream cheese in the dough, and they're great. The meat and veggies are all cooked before they go into the dough, and then baked in the oven. She'll make a batch of them, then individually wrap them and into the freezer. Quick lunch: unwrap and into the microwave.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 20, 2026 03:00 AM (RW118)

370 Alum was a semi-serious suggestion. It's used in "styptic pencils" to stop bleeding from razor cuts when shaving. Maybe get some of that Israeli bandage material that is meant to stop bleeding from gunshot wounds, and apply a little wad of it as a compress to the wound in his mouth?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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The real styptic is a cotton swab with silver nitrate. It's the chemical equivalent of a hot iron. When it's applied, you can actually smell burnt flesh. I had it done when I managed to rip open a varicose vein on my ankle and it wouldn't stop bleeding. The urgent care doc used it. When I mentioned that I'd like to pick up a couple of those swabs for my home wound care kit, he told me that they only sell them to medical.professionals.
I suspect that I could get something on the web from China or wherever, but who knows what it actually would be.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 20, 2026 03:12 AM (RW118)

371 Have I been shadow banned? I'm only seeing my own posts. I can't believe that everyone went to bed this early.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 20, 2026 03:16 AM (RW118)

372 GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL IRAN! America's problems will not depart with dump. Something will have to be done with dumpsters, similar to denazification done in germany after we got rid of hitler. The score Iran 1 dump O Bibi the crooked coming up to bat.

Posted by: raimondo at June 20, 2026 03:18 AM (nmiJT)

373 Thanks for the tip on the auger.
Silver nitrate on me, did not feel it though, it worked.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 20, 2026 03:22 AM (VPNgR)

374 How did Jill biden's book become no 1? Same way right wingers trash books become number one. Billionaires buy large numbers to boost sales of garbage books. Another reason how the rich do evil with their money.

Posted by: raimondo at June 20, 2026 03:27 AM (nmiJT)

375 371 Have I been shadow banned? I'm only seeing my own posts. I can't believe that everyone went to bed this early.
Posted by: buddhaha



Just the insomniacs and midshift drones are up now. Troll bots too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 20, 2026 03:32 AM (WBro8)

376 The Brazil-Haiti soccer game was held in Philly last night. The city was mobbed with Brazil fans, in a good way. I can't quite put a finger on it...the Brazil fans brought a happy party vibe to this (usually) miserable place. Philadelphians are not used to complements, lol. The few Haitian fans were also well-behaved. All local pets have been accounted for.

The next game in Philly will be played Monday....France vs Iraq. Not expecting those happy vibes this time. Ugh.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at June 20, 2026 03:33 AM (xverI)

377 Posted by: buddhaha at June 20, 2026 03:16 AM (RW11

I see your comments just fine, but I'm typically doing other things and just catching up on comments between. I did not know that about the styptic.

Posted by: SciVo at June 20, 2026 03:33 AM (Sy6m/)

378 Posted by: raimondo at June 20, 2026 03:18 AM (nmiJT)

What's this we business, moron. Stupid Indian shitlib-impersonator hasn't served a day in his miserable fatherless life.

Don't you have to get back to the call center to scam old people?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 03:34 AM (dK+Kv)

379 The trolls don’t understand the soccer bit is not the least bit funny, as soccer sucks.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 20, 2026 03:43 AM (An2iq)

380 Just the insomniacs and midshift drones are up now. Troll bots too.
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Thanks. I got shadow banned out of Disqus for the inexcusable crime of changing my email to a protonmail.address, which they defined as defacto spam. My objection was ignored. I'm sure that one of their people looked at my posts, realized that there was nothing spammy about them but also realized that I argued from the non-left position, and figured good riddance. Disqus is in San Francisco.

Posted by: buddhaha at June 20, 2026 03:44 AM (RW118)

381 329 Funny thing comes to mind. One of the best hamburger joints in Calgary, back in the 1980's was Big Dick's burgers on 14th Street NW. Big Dick was a Brit, tall guy with an Afro haircut, and he made damned fine burgers and fries. None finer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2026 01:41 AM (1z8ji)

Up here we have Skinny Dick's Halfway Inn. Halfway between Nenana and Fairbanks. The t-shirt art is two polar bears making more polar bears, natch.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2026 03:44 AM (bl07w)

382 Don't you have to get back to the call center to scam old people?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 20, 2026 03:34 AM (dK+Kv)

Pretty sure he needs to report to the local truck stop toilet.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 20, 2026 03:45 AM (bl07w)

383 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at June 20, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)

384 I'm working on a brief due Monday. Well, probably should've been filed awhile ago, but I'm supercalifuckingliciousexpialibusy.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at June 20, 2026 04:35 AM (DZ9Lv)

Armored Sheep Cafe

norberttherapydog.jpg
Norbert the Therapy Dog

Walrus whistles when you stroke it, if you know what I mean.

Feeding the foxes, if you catch my drift.

Massaging the mouse, if you take my meaning.

Alligator holds off his sneeze heroically but you can never stop a sneeze.

Shelter shows off the cute dogs it has and a little girl picks out a good one.

Swan invaders.

Martial artists must wear required prescription glasses at all times. No exceptions!

Now dogs have joined the "Teen Takeover" trend. But this cop isn't going to let that happen.


A dance troop forms the numbers 1 through 9. Number 8 will SHOCK you!!!

London's got Beaver Fever! They've reintroduced wild beavers (the wilder the better) to the London area. Beavers had previously been hunted out of existence on the theory that they're nuisances that cause flooding by erecting dams.

The new theory -- which I'm not endorsing -- is that beaver dams actually, somehow (I'm unclear on how this works) actually reduce destructive flooding by creating some kind of reservoir area that absorbs a lot of flood overflow.

Is that true? I would not even presume to offer a guess. But beavers, especially a big chonky mama beaver weighing over 120 pounds, are now a spectacle in London, with gawkers collecting on Beaver Viewing Pavilions to watch them chomp wood.

A dog dumped by her former owner is happy and beloved now.

Some practical considerations concerning adopting a zebra.


Everyone appreciates a little show of affection.


You might have already seen dancing cockatoos.

This cockatoo, Audrey, became depressed after her owner died. She plucked herself near-clean of feathers in her sadness. But a couple adopted her and her depression lifted and she's grown most of her feathers back.

And she's now a happy girl who enjoys dancing with her new dad.

Skip to 1:40 (100 seconds) for the dancing, or just watch the whole thing.


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 07:20 PM




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1

Cute doggie.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 07:32 PM (/QHx4)

2 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 07:32 PM (RWslB)

3 Disregard last post. I can't verify.

Can verity this one, though.

Cellphone video taken Wednesday evening at a Target store in Simi Valley shows a man randomly attacking a woman while she was shopping, and then the good Samaritans who jumped in to help her and stop the man.

Police ultimately arrived at the store, arresting the suspect, Rejean Tabor, who they say had been released from custody two days before after being arrested in March for indecent exposure and assaulting an officer.

Tabor entered the store around 6 p.m., and cellphone video shows a woman rushing to help the woman being attacked – but she was quickly thrown off by the attacker. "He was choking her, she was almost dead, I don't know that guy!" the woman said in the video:

https://tinyurl.com/3yza4yt3

Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2026 07:32 PM (mYCqF)

4 "gawkers collecting on Beaver Viewing Pavilions to watch them chomp wood."

That sounds dirty.

Posted by: Guy who thinks everything sounds dirty at June 19, 2026 07:33 PM (vFG9F)

5 Good evening everyone
Isn't he cute

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2026 07:33 PM (Ia/+0)

6 BEAVER! BEAVER! BEAVER!

The national animal of Canada.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at June 19, 2026 07:33 PM (Sco7b)

7 "reintroduced wild beavers"

We had to do that in Illinois back around 1900. Same with deer. They are now thriving.

Posted by: gp at June 19, 2026 07:34 PM (Jr5Lq)

8 I could have been first but I was dancing with my cockatoo.

Posted by: Billy Idull at June 19, 2026 07:34 PM (vFG9F)

9 Feeding the foxes

Bluebell the Hen has a sad.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 19, 2026 07:34 PM (R+iUD)

10

I understand a lot of people like cats. If I wasn't allergic I would have cats.

Me, I am dog crazy.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 07:35 PM (/QHx4)

11 100% for the second week in a row! Praise be!!!

Thank you, Ace!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2026 07:35 PM (0sNs1)

12 I did not have sheep donning battlerager armor on my bingo card this year.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 19, 2026 07:35 PM (gnNyN)

13 >>>A dance troop forms the numbers 1 through 9. Number 8 will SHOCK you!!!

Demunged link is here:
https://x.com/TheFigen_/status/2066639874350895558

C'mon ace. How hard is it to spell href? Be better!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 19, 2026 07:35 PM (syz1S)

14 >>Is that true?

No, it's not true. Beavers used to build a damn on a stream on the back of my parents place. And we would go out and tear it out.

If we didn't the water overflowed the stream and flooded the yard.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 07:36 PM (viF8m)

15 London's got Beaver Fever! They've reintroduced wild beavers (the wilder the better) to the London area.

Any big brown ones?

Asking for a band.

Posted by: Winona at June 19, 2026 07:36 PM (0sNs1)

16 Kids should have dogs

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2026 07:37 PM (Ia/+0)

17 Generic, pro-forma 'awwww'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 19, 2026 07:37 PM (G3T/K)

18 Norbert in the top photo looks a lot like Precious the Bichon, our last dog, a senior rescue. She was missing a lot of her teeth and her tongue did that adorable pop out.

Posted by: JTB at June 19, 2026 07:37 PM (yTvNw)

19 You might have already seen dancing cockatoos.

Oh, way more than two!

What?

Nevermind!

Posted by: Pete "Litella" Bootygig at June 19, 2026 07:38 PM (VHUov)

20 >>> 13 >>>A dance troop forms the numbers 1 through 9. Number 8 will SHOCK you!!!
==
Demunged link is here:
https://x.com/TheFigen_/status/2066639874350895558

C'mon ace. How hard is it to spell href? Be better!
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 19, 2026 07:35 PM (syz1S)

Do you want him to start leaving open tags again???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 19, 2026 07:38 PM (R+iUD)

21 The dance troupe one does not appear to be a link.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 19, 2026 07:38 PM (G3T/K)

22 Shelter shows off the cute dogs it has and a little girl picks out a good one.

You may think this is about a cute dog and a little girl, but it's really about Piper.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2026 07:39 PM (0sNs1)

23 "beaver dams actually, somehow (I'm unclear on how this works) actually reduce destructive flooding by creating some kind of reservoir area that absorbs a lot of flood overflow"

Temporarily maybe but when there is a big enough flood the dam and pond all get washed away, making the flood worse.

Posted by: Billy Idull at June 19, 2026 07:39 PM (vFG9F)

24 Doggiez!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 19, 2026 07:40 PM (DoBxX)

25 A dance troop forms the numbers 1 through 9. Number 8 will SHOCK you!!!

Good thing the Koreans waste time perfecting stuff like this, so they don't decide to take over the world.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 07:41 PM (VHUov)

26 I could have been first but I was dancing with my cockatoo.
Posted by: Billy Idull


That's a new one.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2026 07:43 PM (mYCqF)

27 Temporarily maybe but when there is a big enough flood the dam and pond all get washed away, making the flood worse.
Posted by: Billy Idull

Beaver spillways are usually inadequate and any flood more than designed for will blow the dam out.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 07:43 PM (/lPRQ)

28 Beaver spillways are usually inadequate and any flood more than designed for will blow the dam out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 07:43 PM (/lPRQ)

Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 19, 2026 07:44 PM (G3T/K)

29 "beaver dams actually, somehow (I'm unclear on how this works) actually reduce destructive flooding by creating some kind of reservoir area that absorbs a lot of flood overflow"

Temporarily maybe but when there is a big enough flood the dam and pond all get washed away, making the flood worse.
Posted by: Billy Idull at June 19, 2026 07:39 PM (vFG9F)
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This might be true in rural areas where they are working with streams, but if a beaver dams up a drainage ditch, that's going to cause big problems.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 07:45 PM (ZOv7s)

30 It is hard to watch any British program and not wonder 'WHY ARE YOU WATCHING BEAVERS WHILE LITTLE GIRLS ARE BEING SYSTEMATICALLY RAPED WITH GOVERNMENT APPROVAL?!?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 19, 2026 07:48 PM (G3T/K)

31 Now I want to go see beavers. I asked AI where they are locally. It told me, and it mentioned:

"Beavers are nocturnal (active mostly at night and during dusk or dawn). Visit during the early morning or late evening for the best chances of seeing them swim."

Too early, too late. I don't want to see them that bad, I guess.

Posted by: gp at June 19, 2026 07:49 PM (Jr5Lq)

32 That's an umbrella cockatoo. They are really sweet but do tend to be pluckers. All cockatoos are hard to rehome, as they can make noise at jet engine levels.

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 19, 2026 07:51 PM (bkuEU)

33 This evening I want to sit in a birch forest, let me feet chill in a babbling brook and drink my wine.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 07:53 PM (afJtY)

34 I guess the poster of the vid didn't like how they did #10.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 07:55 PM (GseMx)

35 A cenobite sheep?

Posted by: banana Dream at June 19, 2026 07:56 PM (3uBP9)

36 Notsothoreau, you got that right. Been there, done that.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 07:57 PM (afJtY)

37 I get video shorts of people rescuing abandoned dogs; they make me cry every time.
God bless those people for doing that. For the people that abandoned the dog? yeah, you'll get yours. The barbed c**k of karma is going to help you celebrate pride for the rest of your hopefully short miserable life.

Posted by: Nelly at June 19, 2026 07:57 PM (6+ehB)

38 What do they call a girl who blocks her male friend from picking up a girl?

A Beaver Dam

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 07:58 PM (GseMx)

39 Youd think the sheep would not like it when they turn their head.

But it probably warns off Islamic dudes too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 19, 2026 07:58 PM (G3T/K)

40 Hey Bandit! This is Little Beaver... Put your foot on the floor, we got your backdoor and I'm clear!

Posted by: 1977 Remembers at June 19, 2026 07:59 PM (wVcYX)

41 I've seen armored hot dogs before but not armored sheep.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2026 07:59 PM (Cqx++)

42 Is that firecat AI ?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2026 08:00 PM (Cqx++)

43 There was a beaver pond near the old haunted farmhouse I used to live in. It was an old pond, swampy and reedy along the edges. Once you got past that there was a good sized pool. I got a rubber raft and went across it one time. The dam itself was really long, it stretched maybe 100 feet or so. I didn't see any beavers, but I bet they saw me. It was a little creepy being there. I knowed I wasn't supposed to be.

Posted by: fd at June 19, 2026 08:00 PM (vFG9F)

44 Wouldn't it be easier to get a sheep dog?

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:00 PM (GseMx)

45
I was shamed into taking a parrot years ago.

He was a bastard. Luckily the owner got resettled somewhere after a few months and wanted his parrot back.

We took great care of the bastard and were thrilled to give the bastard back to him..

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:02 PM (/QHx4)

46 When I look at things like those korean band members forming numbers all I think now is yeah that's kind of neat but ai could do that and it would not look any different. I'm not saying that ai is better it's just that there were a lot of silly simple things that seemed amazing to see before ai but afterward it's just silly simple.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 19, 2026 08:03 PM (3uBP9)

47 Ben Had!

Miss you, sweet lady. Hope all is well.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 08:03 PM (A5RD0)

48 "they make me cry every time."

Me too. I don't watch those kinds of animal vids anymore.

Posted by: gp at June 19, 2026 08:04 PM (Jr5Lq)

49 Wouldn't it be easier to get a sheep dog?
Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:00 PM (GseMx)

A team of Andalusian shepherds would do the trick. Widely utilized in the Rocky Mountain West. Big, loyal, smart and will fuck up a wolf. Saw them a lot in the Bighorns in Wyoming and the Flattops in Colorado.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Dave's Not Here! at June 19, 2026 08:04 PM (0aYVJ)

50 I wants too wish Presdent Obama a happy Juneteeth Day.
We loves you and miss yuo..

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 19, 2026 08:04 PM (xNKY/)

51 I effing hate computers. Bastards.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:04 PM (77rzZ)

52 Can you train a bird to poop in their cage or do you have to lay paper over the entire floor.

And on a side note all birds should be named Larry.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:04 PM (GseMx)

53 Scot Soccer Fans in Boston Bar:

https://youtube.com/shorts/-WEyhiaCu4c

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 08:05 PM (qx7Zg)

54
gp,


I don't watch them.

Geez I would have hudreds of dogs, lol..



Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:05 PM (/QHx4)

55 Ben Had, are you going to be at the NoVa MoMe?

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:05 PM (77rzZ)

56 The macaws were so much nicer. I'm glad the nephew took them in. But they screwed uy lings and I can't see them without worrying about ot happening to someone else

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 19, 2026 08:06 PM (bkuEU)

57 I wants too wish Presdent Obama a happy Juneteeth Day.
We loves you and miss yuo..
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt


Thought you would be celebrating Juneteenth downtown watching the fireworks and drivebys.

Everybody else is.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 08:06 PM (/lPRQ)

58 Happy Juneteeth to you to Mary!

Posted by: Pawl at June 19, 2026 08:07 PM (vFG9F)

59 nurse, life on the farm is wonderful and I am well. Can't wait to give you a hug.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 08:07 PM (afJtY)

60 Doesn't matter. They throw seeds and food everywhere.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 19, 2026 08:07 PM (bkuEU)

61

polynikes, the one we temporarily adopted was called bastard.

He was. a mean bastard

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:08 PM (/QHx4)

62 A pack of dogs can be dangerous.

Posted by: javems at June 19, 2026 08:10 PM (zFsEm)

63 Bulg, sadly not. The livestock keeps me home.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 08:10 PM (afJtY)

64 At my former tennis club disguised as a zoo, they had a number of birds in huge individual outdoor cages. They were loud.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:11 PM (GseMx)

65 Doesn't matter. They throw seeds and food everywhere.
Posted by: Notsothoreau


That's why I named my canary "Onan."

Posted by: zombie Dorothy Parker at June 19, 2026 08:11 PM (VHUov)

66
Bulg,

You could travel to the TEXMO meet. Up.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:11 PM (/QHx4)

67 63 I don’t know if I will be there, either. I don’t know if it’s proper to have fun so soon after my sister’s passing.

We’ll see how I feel tomorrow.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:13 PM (77rzZ)

68 I had some cockatiels. The male, Buster, never would talk but he would raise the hell out of some chicks. After the female laid he would run them off. He went thru two females and six or so broods. He eventually just up and died at about 25.

They lived in a big round cage I made. A lot of the time they could come and go as they pleased. When I lived in the old farmhouse they spent a lot of time on the screened porch, with the iguana.

Posted by: fd at June 19, 2026 08:14 PM (vFG9F)

69 Don't be shy, pick your favorite Juneteenth day:
National Garfield the Cat Day, , National Dry Martini Day, World Sauntering Day, National Sickle Cell Day, International Day for the *Elimination of Sexual Violence in Conflict, National Eat an Oreo Day, National Flip Flop Day - June 19, 2026 (Third Friday in June), National FreeBSD Day, National Pets in Film Day, National Watch Day, Take Back the Lunch Break Day - June 19, 2026 (Third Friday in June), Ugliest Dog Day - June 19, 2026 (Third Friday in June), Work at Home Father's Day - June 19, 2026 (The Friday before Father's Day),

*note: sexual violence is OK as long as it's not in conflict

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 08:15 PM (VPNgR)

70 Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:13 PM (77rzZ)

Do you think your sister would mind?

I think it's probably possible to grieve a loved one while still enjoying the company of people who like and appreciate you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:16 PM (AphQx)

71 It's National June 19th Day!

Posted by: fd at June 19, 2026 08:16 PM (vFG9F)

72 I would get therapy if that could be my therapist!

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 08:16 PM (OoFl2)

73 *note: sexual violence is OK as long as it's not in conflict
Posted by: Braenyard

Don't be greedy,
Pick ONE

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 19, 2026 08:17 PM (/lPRQ)

74 The only bird I really liked was a red tail hawk that I rehabbed. That was a majestic bird.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 08:19 PM (afJtY)

75 70, Fen, I’ll see how I feel about it tomorrow. I just can’t say right now.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:19 PM (77rzZ)

76

Bulg,

Your sister would want you to .enjoy life.

Go for it big boy.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:19 PM (/QHx4)

77 "Fed up with wolves attacking his sheep, a farmer crafted spiked armor to let them graze safely and peacefully."

That's just nuts. A damage shield only works for tanks. Sheep aren't tanks. They're backstabbers, moving around silently in wool armor until bam! a charge sneak attack for triple damage. Give the sheep a spiked helmet. Like one of those kraut pickle bucket hats.

What planet is this guy on?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 19, 2026 08:20 PM (w/O5Q)

78 Special Graduation Surprise.

https://youtube.com/shorts/WnF4cNaCIjs

It's a little dusty in here.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 08:21 PM (qx7Zg)

79 But I would love to see Hordelings tomorrow.

My sister went from being a commie in college to being a Trump supporter when she passed.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:22 PM (77rzZ)

80 a pickelhaube would top off that armor nicely.
also a gorget to protect the throat.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 19, 2026 08:23 PM (VyBeY)

81 Norbert is the best!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 19, 2026 08:24 PM (VyBeY)

82 It seems kind of ridiculous to celebrate the day
the news of the Emancipation Proclamation reached Texas while we don't have a day to celebrate the actual Emancipation Proclamation was signed. For that matter we got rid of Abraham Lincoln's birthday and rolled he and Washington's Birthday into one day. And no, I am not trying to start a debate about he War Between the States again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:24 PM (j3j1r)

83 I don’t know if I will be there, either. I don’t know if it’s proper to have fun so soon after my sister’s passing.

We’ll see how I feel tomorrow.
Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:13 PM (77rzZ)
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Take your time. No need to rush things.

At the same time, life goes on. I don't think our loved ones who have died would begrudge us enjoying fun and fellowship.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)

84 Willowed:

"Birds attracted to Obama mausoleum lettering are beginning to roost there and shit all over the building.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others "

Even I could see that would happen and I ain't no fancy smancy expert arkitech. Now they have to kill all the birds.

Posted by: fd at June 19, 2026 08:25 PM (vFG9F)

85 Our flock of monk parakeets is up to 8 now. Strange to see green birds a amongst the pigeons and robins

Posted by: Accomack at June 19, 2026 08:25 PM (T8bqm)

86 I had mentioned earlier this year that I wanted to get my cowboy boots refinished/refurnished pretty much rebuilt but I couldn't find anyone local. I wore these back in high school circa 1980s. They were in real rough shape. Well, I found some online outfit in Texas and I sent them there. That was About May 1st. Well they are finished, a month and a half and a shocking amount of money later. They're being shipped back. I hope they are pretty awesome. I'll let y'all know when I get them.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 19, 2026 08:26 PM (3uBP9)

87 I guess the Congress needed another three day weekend

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:26 PM (j3j1r)

88 We be having a Non birthing persons and gay pride celebration this weekends. Pleese come join us and where yoor brest We hate trump shirt.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 19, 2026 08:27 PM (xNKY/)

89 Brasil v. Haiti, FIFA fans!

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 08:27 PM (OoFl2)

90 Shouldn't Monk Parakeets be wearing brown robes?

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2026 08:27 PM (Ia/+0)

91 Possible scenario. The wolf grabs the ewe by the leg and drops it, underbelly is exposed and the wolf tears open the stomach.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 08:27 PM (afJtY)

92
"Birds attracted to Obama mausoleum lettering are beginning to roost there and shit all over the building.

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I salute the birds for doing what all of us dream of doing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:28 PM (u/oMr)

93
Bulg,


It is devastating to lose a sibling. A lot of us of here have experienced that loss.
I lost a brother when we were in ,our 30's.

He was full of life and wanted us to continue to enjoy life.

You aren't disrespecting your sister by continuing a good life.

She would want that for you.

Go for it big boy!



Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:28 PM (/QHx4)

94 Juneteenth was a fun, local holiday in the best American tradition. It was completely organic, the outgrowth of people remembering how wonderful it was to get the news that they were no longer slaves.

It does not translate to anywhere else. From the moment Michigan was organized into the Northwest Territories it was free soil. It is meaningless to most of the country.

The true agenda is seen in the neo-Marxist flag and the language used - to create a "new" independence day to replace the real one and completely discredit the Founding.

I'm enjoying all my liberal neighbors wondering why there is no mail or trash pickup today.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 08:29 PM (ZOv7s)

95 The wolves will just develop armor piercing rounds and then it's an arms race.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 19, 2026 08:29 PM (3uBP9)

96 90 Shouldn't Monk Parakeets be wearing brown robes?

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Only if Fryer Chickens wear white robes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:29 PM (u/oMr)

97 83. Thank you, AHL.

I think that I’ll probably put in an appearance tomorrow just to say hello to everyone, but I don’t know how long it will last. Like I said, we’ll see.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:29 PM (77rzZ)

98 Even I could see that would happen and I ain't no fancy smancy expert arkitech. Now they have to kill all the birds.
Posted by: fd at June 19, 2026 08:25 PM (vFG9F)

Or they can fix the lettering where it would not attract the birds to roost.

I recently had to place a covering over the top of my front door where a pair of swallows were attempting to roost. I didn't notice until they started to build their mud nest because I go into my house through the garage.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:31 PM (GseMx)

99
Ah, there's good news tonight. The Diocese of Arlington (VA) has announced that the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter has been granted a chaplaincy to provide the Traditional Latin Mass in the diocese.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 08:31 PM (O0L8i)

100 My mom passed away yesterday. Her final days were not easy, so I'm choosing to think of her in heaven with her brothers and sisters. I will always miss her.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 19, 2026 08:31 PM (hPk6V)

101 Thank you all for your advice and your good wishes.

I am tearing up as I read them.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:32 PM (77rzZ)

102 OT- Prayer request. I would to ask prayers for my friend, C. She is a very nice, caring and intelligent addictions counselor. She is also an only child and her father is dying. Her mother is still alive, but they are obviously incredibly distraught by all this, I personally feel she's needs her father permission to "let go and go to God" . Sometimes the dying need to hear this from their family.

Anyway, thanks for the prayers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:32 PM (O14q3)

103 "Or they can fix the lettering where it would not attract the birds to roost."

They can put spikes up there but why should they have to? Just have the laser banks blast any incoming birds.

Posted by: fd at June 19, 2026 08:33 PM (vFG9F)

104 "Birds attracted to Obama mausoleum lettering are beginning to roost there and shit all over the building.

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I salute the birds for doing what all of us dream of doing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:28 PM (u/oMr)

If we could only train them to attack like an A-10.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2026 08:33 PM (snZF9)

105 Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 19, 2026 08:31 PM (hPk6V)

Condolences to you and your family. Went through this myself in 2022.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:33 PM (GseMx)

106 100 Beltway Elite, I am so sorry. May her memory be a blessing to you.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:33 PM (77rzZ)

107 Condolences, Beltway.

Bulg, you should go.
Your sister would not begrudge you the chance to fellowship with likeminded individuals that you've come to know and care about.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 19, 2026 08:33 PM (Rln0i)

108 Posted by: Beltway Elite at June 19, 2026 08:31 PM

I'm so sorry. May God comfort and be with you and all who loved your mom.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:34 PM (O14q3)

109 So sorry for your loss, Beltway Elite 💔💔💔

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at June 19, 2026 08:34 PM (SRRAx)

110 At the same time, life goes on. I don't think our loved ones who have died would begrudge us enjoying fun and fellowship.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


https://youtu.be/38jcBs7Qd14

Do not stand at my grave and cry.
I am not there; I did not die.
I say to you "I will see you again,
On the other side, someday....."


Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 08:34 PM (VHUov)

111
Keep living.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:34 PM (/QHx4)

112 I honestly don't know why I bought cowboy boots back then. It was just a thing guys were doing. I mean, you got a flannel-lined denim jacket and boots.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 19, 2026 08:35 PM (3uBP9)

113 I will always miss her.
Posted by: Beltway Elite


Prayers for you and yours.

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 08:35 PM (VHUov)

114 92
"Birds attracted to Obama mausoleum lettering are beginning to roost there and shit all over the building.

These birds are "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST" by defecating on our first Mulato President's Taj Mahal !!!!!!

IMPEACH TRUMP NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at June 19, 2026 08:35 PM (FrBdv)

115 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:32 PM (O14q3)

Sorry; Mistype. Meant she needs to give her father permission to let go and go to God.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:35 PM (O14q3)

116 90 Shouldn't Monk Parakeets be wearing brown robes?

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Only if Fryer Chickens wear white robes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:29 PM (u/oMr)

Don't mess with the Shaolin White Cranes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 19, 2026 08:36 PM (wVcYX)

117 I just saw the Karmelo Anthony footage. Welp, that should stop a lot of narratives. Should. But I am guessing there will be don’t believe your lying eyes TikTok’s now.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 08:37 PM (OoFl2)

118

SUW

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:38 PM (/QHx4)

119 100 My mom passed away yesterday. Her final days were not easy, so I'm choosing to think of her in heaven with her brothers and sisters. I will always miss her.
Posted by: Beltway Elite at

I am so sorry. Losing your mama is just hard. Prayers for you.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 08:38 PM (OoFl2)

120 Beltway Elite, Deepest condolences on your loss. Hold the good memories in your heart.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at June 19, 2026 08:38 PM (yTvNw)

121 Heh.

Lots of Seattle progtards freaking out right now.

All the flags. And the shirts. And the crazy costumes. And the chants of “USA. USA. USA!!!” Through the streets of downtown.

Holy shit. It’s hilarious. I’m loving it. All of the normal people (yes, there are more and more) are getting the chance to show their patriotism and not be harangued by the freaks.

I’m pretty happy with my city right now.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 08:40 PM (A5RD0)

122 Prayers up for C, Fen, and for Beltway Elite.

Bulg, it's OK to play the MoMe by ear. I'm sure everyone will understand if you leave after 15 minutes - or if you spend the entire time enjoying the company.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 08:40 PM (qx7Zg)

123 107 Thank you, SMH. Your opinion means a great deal to me. I think that I probably will, now.

I would love to meet you in person sometime, Dear Lady. I have great respect for you.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:40 PM (77rzZ)

124 Fenelonspoke, Prayers are sent.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at June 19, 2026 08:41 PM (yTvNw)

125
94 Juneteenth was a fun, local holiday in the best American tradition. It was completely organic, the outgrowth of people remembering how wonderful it was to get the news that they were no longer slaves.”

Exactly! I’m in East Texas, where it started and 30, 40 years ago it was just little local celebrations, there’d be a custom car parade down MLK blvd and then the community would all have picnics and get togethers into the night. Everyone thought it was nice and it was no big deal to anyone. All local employers cooperated with any employees who asked off that day, it was understood.

Now it’s been turned into some political monstrosity.

Posted by: Zombie Brian Dennehy at June 19, 2026 08:41 PM (nuNhM)

126 Evening, Ace, and Cafe idlers! Productive day today: mowed that part of the yard nearest the house and outbuildings, did a load of laundry and hung it on the line to dry (not done yet), took trash o town dump, and fired up the walk-behind weed whacker, and did a big tranche of weed-whacking.

Beer time! Sipping on a Shiner Bock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 08:41 PM (1z8ji)

127 Possible scenario. The wolf grabs the ewe by the leg and drops it, underbelly is exposed and the wolf tears open the stomach.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 08:27 PM (afJtY)
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That is clearly the second echelon support sheep.

The breakthrough sheep wear plate armor and are fitted with explosive probes that blow off the noses of inquisitive wolves. Or the gate. Or fences. Or anything, really.

We only arm them when it's go time.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 08:42 PM (ZOv7s)

128 Beltway elite

It’s hard to lose your mom.
Peace be with you.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 08:42 PM (A5RD0)

129 I don’t know if I will be there, either. I don’t know if it’s proper to have fun so soon after my sister’s passing.

We’ll see how I feel tomorrow.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:13 PM (77rzZ)

What would you tell your sister if the roles were reversed? There's your answer.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2026 08:42 PM (snZF9)

130 honestly don't know why I bought cowboy boots back then. It was just a thing guys were doing. I mean, you got a flannel-lined denim jacket and boots.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 19, 2026 08:35 PM (3uBP9

I bought a pair of ostrich skin boots and took them with me when I moved to NYC . Wore to work on occasion which was good water cooler conversation for the yankees. One day took them off after work and changed into my tennis shoes for my drive to Connecticut . About 30 minutes into my drive I heard a thump and look at my review mirror and saw one of the boots bounce off the trunk onto the freeway. Never bought another pair of boots.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:43 PM (GseMx)

131 Bulg and Beltway Elite and FenelonSpoke's friend C - Prayers for God's comfort and strength.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 19, 2026 08:43 PM (wVcYX)

132
Now it’s been turned into some political monstrosity.

Posted by: Zombie Brian Dennehy at June 19, 2026 08:41 PM (nuNhM)

____________

Like you said, it was a genial, organic Texas holiday. Now it's a federalized Bash Whitey Day for the progtards and Grievance mongers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 08:44 PM (O0L8i)

133 Here's to those we love and who are no longer with us.

*clink*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:45 PM (u/oMr)

134 Here's to those we love and who are no longer with us.

*clink*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:45 PM (u/oMr)

135 Posted by: Beltway Elite

prayers up

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

more prayers

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 19, 2026 08:45 PM (B0dAE)

136 Nurse, I love all the red white a blue. An amazing showing without question! And I love our team prayed together after winning.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 08:45 PM (OoFl2)

137 No, it's not true. Beavers used to build a damn on a stream on the back of my parents place. And we would go out and tear it out.

If we didn't the water overflowed the stream and flooded the yard.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 07:36 PM (viF8m)

The dirty secret is this: beavers build dams to suit their perceived needs, not those of humans who may also inhabit the area. Sometimes their needs also work to the benefit of humans, other times they don't.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 08:45 PM (1z8ji)

138 Yikes. I must have pushed Post really hard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:46 PM (u/oMr)

139 lol forgot about that Dennehy sock!

I don’t do socks much I never remember I’ve done it. Not that my mind is fading or anything.

Hey where’s my granddaughter?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2026 08:46 PM (nuNhM)

140
The best thing we can do is instill our Christian values in our children and grandchildren.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:47 PM (/QHx4)

141 22 Shelter shows off the cute dogs it has and a little girl picks out a good one.

You may think this is about a cute dog and a little girl, but it's really about Piper.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2026 07:39 PM (0sNs1)

Awwwwwwww!

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 08:47 PM (OoFl2)

142
Yikes. I must have pushed Post really hard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:46 PM (u/oMr)

__________

Like time in The Barrel, everyone has to double post at least once.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 08:48 PM (O0L8i)

143 also a gorget to protect the throat.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez
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A full gorget for the young ladies in England and Ireland.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 08:48 PM (VPNgR)

144 Maybe Juneteenth will go the way of Cinco De Mayo. Instead of margaritas, everyone will have Hennessy and just have fun.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:48 PM (GseMx)

145 Yikes. I must have pushed Post really hard.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:46 PM (u/oMr)

It's a good one to double post.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 08:48 PM (qx7Zg)

146 Reparations for people who were never slaves and live in the best country in the world and by people who never owned slaves

SNAP, Section 8 housing, welfare, and other governmental freebees are not enough !!!!!

Posted by: Jack Meehoff at June 19, 2026 08:48 PM (X7dyz)

147
They don't have to be cute.

They need love.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:49 PM (/QHx4)

148 Juneteenth around here used to be redolent with BBQ and family gatherings. Making this a national holiday put an end to that.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 08:49 PM (afJtY)

149 The best thing we can do is instill our Christian values in our children and grandchildren.
___

Speaking from experience, sometimes even that isn't enough.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 19, 2026 08:49 PM (Rln0i)

150 Hi, Piper!

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:49 PM (77rzZ)

151 The best thing we can do is instill our Christian values in our children and grandchildren.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:47 PM (/QHx4)
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My grandkids will be baptized on Sunday.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 08:50 PM (ZOv7s)

152 Here's to those we love and who are no longer with us.

*clink*
Posted by: Cicero
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*clink*

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 08:50 PM (rdVOm)

153 131 Thank you, Count.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (77rzZ)

154 Maybe Juneteenth will go the way of Cinco De Mayo. Instead of margaritas, everyone will have Hennessy and just have fun.
Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:48 PM (GseMx)
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If the House and Senate hold, Trump will push to repeal it in his final two years.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (ZOv7s)

155 hank you, SMH. Your opinion means a great deal to me. I think that I probably will, now.

I would love to meet you in person sometime, Dear Lady. I have great respect for you.
Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:40 PM


SMH is ... awesome.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (0sNs1)

156 Even I could see that would happen and I ain't no fancy smancy expert arkitech. Now they have to kill all the birds.

Posted by: fd
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& keep on killing them. How many birds are they going to kill before the Avian Society or Birds Unlimited complain that the Obama's are causing several species to become extinct?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (VPNgR)

157
Christianity: there is no sin beyond the mercy of God.

Leftism: you can never be forgiven and your sin can constantly be dug up and used against you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (O0L8i)

158
Ace- Endorsed,

Blessings to you all.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:52 PM (/QHx4)

159 Three MoH medals awarded by Trump recently. The 88 year old recipient's response made the darn allergies flare up again.

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 08:52 PM (GseMx)

160 Hi Bulg!

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 08:52 PM (OoFl2)

161 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (O0L8i)

That's an accurate, succinct way to describe it. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 08:53 PM (AphQx)

162 Those who are no longer with us deserve double clinks.

*double clinks to my sister*

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:53 PM (77rzZ)

163 I saw "Toy Story 5" today and thought it was a good return to form. It was nice to see it in a packed theater, with the kids laughing at one layer of jokes and the adults another.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 19, 2026 08:53 PM (kpS4V)

164 The breakthrough sheep wear plate armor and are fitted with explosive probes that blow off the noses of inquisitive wolves. Or the gate. Or fences. Or anything, really.

We only arm them when it's go time.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


"Sis boom bah."

Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent at June 19, 2026 08:53 PM (VHUov)

165 Leftism: you can never be forgiven and your sin can constantly be dug up and used against you.

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Also Leftism: Advertise your sin and all will be forced to applaud it

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 08:53 PM (6/7Fs)

166 Bulg, Duncanthrax, thank you for the sentiment.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 19, 2026 08:53 PM (Rln0i)

167 154 Maybe Juneteenth will go the way of Cinco De Mayo. Instead of margaritas, everyone will have Hennessy and just have fun.
Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026
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Or they could rescind it and let it be a Texas holiday where it belongs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 08:54 PM (VPNgR)

168 Those who are no longer with us deserve double clinks.

*double clinks to my sister*
Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:53 PM (77rzZ)
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I'll drink to that. Prosst!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 08:55 PM (ZOv7s)

169 151 Congrats, AHL!

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:55 PM (77rzZ)

170 My mom passed away yesterday. Her final days were not easy, so I'm choosing to think of her in heaven with her brothers and sisters. I will always miss her.
Posted by: Beltway Elite

My condolences. Your correct in your thinking. My mom died in 2011, and let me tell you, she swooped in twice and pulled my ass from the fire in an unmistakable big way and proved to this originally non believing idiot that maybe I was wrong. The funny thing, she always threatened to do it. Mom proved she is still around and watching. No doubt your mom is too.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2026 08:56 PM (snZF9)

171 Christianity: there is no sin beyond the mercy of God.

Leftism: you can never be forgiven and your sin can constantly be dug up and used against you.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (O0L8i)
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More proof that leftism is really for people with mommy and daddy issues.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 08:56 PM (ZOv7s)

172 Piper!

I didn’t get to watch the game at all. I was buried at work. The team prayed together after the game? On the field?

I only walked through the aftermath. Everyone happy. Red white and blue. And the yellow and green. Laughter and cheers and joy. What an amazing atmosphere!

So many people on the waterfront. It’s a gorgeous day, sunny and 78. Mountains are out. Everyone is behaving. So far.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at June 19, 2026 08:56 PM (gjFiG)

173 My daughter is 37 and she’s full of the usual ignorant leftist social ideas.

Good news is my grandson just turned 14 and he and his friends think their moms are full of shit about everything.

He has proved the old aphorism - why do grandchildren and grandparents get along so well?

Because they have a common enemy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2026 08:56 PM (nuNhM)

174
SMH is awesome And I'm so happy to see her back with us.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:56 PM (/QHx4)

175 & keep on killing them. How many birds are they going to kill before the Avian Society or Birds Unlimited complain that the Obama's are causing several species to become extinct?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (VPNgR)

They already extincted the passenger pigeons. Will the cargo pigeons be next? (he asked hopefully)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 08:57 PM (1z8ji)

176 "Birds attracted to Obama mausoleum lettering are beginning to roost there and shit all over the building. "

"Or they can fix the lettering where it would not attract the birds to roost."

They can put spikes up there but why should they have to? Just have the laser banks blast any incoming birds.
Posted by: fd


The proper solution is to put a decoy Bald Eagle atop each letter to scare the birds away.

Because that'd be like decorating the entrance to the Fortress of Solitude with kryptonite.

Posted by: mikeski luthor at June 19, 2026 08:57 PM (VHUov)

177 Thanks four seasons. : )

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at June 19, 2026 08:58 PM (Rln0i)

178 Christianity: there is no sin beyond the mercy of God.

Leftism: you can never be forgiven and your sin can constantly be dug up and used against you.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

More proof that leftism is really for people with mommy and daddy issues.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


More proof that one movement is led by a Man, and the other by women (some of whom have Y chromosomes.)

Posted by: mikeski at June 19, 2026 08:59 PM (VHUov)

179

Adverise your sin living together in ,sin.

God loves that.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 08:59 PM (/QHx4)

180 174
Same here.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:59 PM (77rzZ)

181

SMH,


You are a treasure.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:01 PM (/QHx4)

182 Because that'd be like decorating the entrance to the Fortress of Solitude with kryptonite.
Posted by: mikeski luthor at June 19, 2026 08:57 PM (VHUov)

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Can you even imagine an American flag on top of that commie monstrosity?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 09:01 PM (6/7Fs)

183 Leftism: you can never be forgiven and your sin can constantly be dug up and used against you.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 08:51 PM (O0L8i)

Leftism - one of the most bitter, cruel, and vicious religions ever inflicted on men and women.

And in the end, the greatest betrayal of all will be when they finally have to confront the fact that their gods were weak, foolish, and very fallible.

Because they made gods of themselves.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2026 09:01 PM (nuNhM)

184
Birds are clearly racist. We need a Smash Pigeons Campaign.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:01 PM (O0L8i)

185 I posted this in the morning thread because it is on Proverbs 3:6 and is about George Washington Carver . A man of faith , perseverance and great intelligence ,and so much more admirable than Barack Obama. Also, somebody mentioned Carver on a thread yesterday. It had some nice thoughts and additional reflections on Proverbs foliowing the devotional

https://tinyurl.com/musw576v

Also, I said I'd help at a conservative picnic tomorrow and talk about 1776. If you could pray for all our safety, it would be appreciated. Last year our signs were defaced and graffiti put at the park entrance. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 09:02 PM (guLpK)

186 160 Hey, Piper. How goes the fitness biz?

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 09:03 PM (77rzZ)

187 Congrats, AHL!
Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 08:55 PM (77rzZ)
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Thanks! It was something of a surprise that my daughter, who fell away from the Church rather conspicuously, would decide to move ahead with it. I pushed for them to go to the parish preschool and then elementary school, paying the first year entirely out of my pocket. The experience of her daughter (the elder) convinced her to come on board with it and I think she sees how well the kids are doing, and how remarkable it is given how tragic their lives have been.

She still gets into stars and symbols and stuff, but the kids are learning their prayers and going to Mass regularly.

Miracles happen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:03 PM (ZOv7s)

188 Can you even imagine an American flag on top of that commie monstrosity?
Posted by: Cicero

Surprised they didn't put a Palestine flag on it for the grand opening.

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:03 PM (rdVOm)

189 Remember, when discussing sin, that sin(x) = cos(90° - x)

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 19, 2026 09:04 PM (0sNs1)

190 Also, I said I'd help at a conservative picnic tomorrow and talk about 1776. If you could pray for all our safety, it would be appreciated. Last year our signs were defaced and graffiti put at the park entrance. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2026 09:02 PM (guLpK)

Watch a few episodes of Forged in Fire, and you will learn how to beat a plowshare into a sword.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:04 PM (1z8ji)

191
Lacrosse seems to be the next target for extirpation. First it was the Duke team and the phony rape accusation. Now it's a high-school team photographed smoking cigars.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:05 PM (O0L8i)

192 I think the whole USAID thing has shown how much the whole Pride b.s. was complete astroturf. A sodomite color revolution.

And the normies are realizing they don't have to play along. They can just say "screw you" and get away with it.

The world is healing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:06 PM (ZOv7s)

193 187 AHL, although I am not a Catholic, I have a huge amount of respect for your faith, along with that of Nurse Ratched, Hadrian the Seventh, and others here.

Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 09:09 PM (77rzZ)

194 Lacrosse seems to be the next target for extirpation. First it was the Duke team and the phony rape accusation. Now it's a high-school team photographed smoking cigars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:05 PM (O0L8i)
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You're a quarter-century too late. Title IX gutted lacrosse programs across the country. They went from varsity sports with scholarships to clubs. Same with fencing.

Maybe we can roll that back next. Let the boys play!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:09 PM (ZOv7s)

195 186 160 Hey, Piper. How goes the fitness biz?
Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 09:03 PM

It’s good! It’s a busier summer than normal, I usually can cut classes for a reduced summer schedule but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:09 PM (OoFl2)

196


Living in sin is profitable for some people.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:11 PM (/QHx4)

197 189 Remember, ...

Posted by: Wesley Crusher
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Shut up, Wesley

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 09:13 PM (VPNgR)

198 I didn’t get to watch the game at all. I was buried at work. The team prayed together after the game? On the field?

Posted by: nurse ratched

Yes! It was awesome. I will find a picture.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:13 PM (OoFl2)

199 AHL, although I am not a Catholic, I have a huge amount of respect for your faith, along with that of Nurse Ratched, Hadrian the Seventh, and others here.
Posted by: Bulg at June 19, 2026 09:09 PM (77rzZ)
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I appreciate that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:13 PM (ZOv7s)

200 Birds are clearly racist. We need a Smash Pigeons Campaign.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:01 PM (O0L8i)


Clearly they are one of the four pests you know

Posted by: Kindltot at June 19, 2026 09:14 PM (rbvCR)

201 Living in sin is profitable for some people.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:11 PM (/QHx4)
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It profit a man nothing to gain the world for his soul, but for sodomy?!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:15 PM (ZOv7s)

202
I got another look at pics from the opening of the Ob-scenity yesterday. Michelle ought to change her last name to O-zempic. She picked an outfit to show off her slim new form. She added the weight back in eyelashes, though.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 19, 2026 09:15 PM (XJ22o)

203
Lacrosse is another quintessentially Canadian sport. Use a stick to beat the tar out of your opponent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:15 PM (O0L8i)

204 192 I think the whole USAID thing has shown how much the whole Pride b.s. was complete astroturf. A sodomite color revolution.
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The enemy within and the CCP from without aligned against us but we stand. That is why they hate and fear us.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 09:15 PM (VPNgR)

205 Michigan is experiencing idea weather. Highs in the mid-70s, lows in the upper 50s. It won't last, so I'm soaking it in.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:16 PM (ZOv7s)

206 Can you even imagine an American flag on top of that commie monstrosity?
Posted by: Cicero

Surprised they didn't put a Palestine flag on it for the grand opening.
Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:03 PM (rdVOm)

It deserves the Galactic Empire flag (from Star Wars).

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 09:16 PM (qx7Zg)

207 It's MoMe Eve.
Celebrate responsibly.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 19, 2026 09:17 PM (D2IX4)

208
Being fucked up the ass or being a whore.

What is the worst sin?

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:17 PM (/QHx4)

209 Speaking of the Catholic church, I am ready to start searching my AO for a parish. I grew up Catholic, but fell by the wayside. My former hometown had a really nice, traditional church, but I simply never attended much.

My new AO has a goodly number of parishes, as well as the cathedral. I think my mission will be to find one that feels right. Might sound odd, but I've been in some Catholic churches that felt more like a Joel Osteen rah-rah fest. My Momand Dad's church was excellent. Conservative pastor. He spoke at her celebration of life ceremony a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Dave's Not Here! at June 19, 2026 09:17 PM (0aYVJ)

210 What kind of ideas is Michigan having?

Posted by: I gotta ask at June 19, 2026 09:17 PM (D2IX4)

211 Lacrosse is another quintessentially Canadian sport. Use a stick to beat the tar out of your opponent.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:15 PM (O0L8i)

It originated with the Iroquois and Mohawks, I believe. Even way out west in British Columbia, the teams were largely populated by Indians. One team I remember was the New Westminster Salmonbellies. Lacrosse scores were reported on the front page of the sports section, as "Boxla" (box Lacrosse).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:18 PM (1z8ji)

212 Lacrosse is another quintessentially Canadian sport. Use a stick to beat the tar out of your opponent.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:15 PM (O0L8i)
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Eastern tribes, not just Canada. Michigan and upstate New York used to be big into it. Fort Michilimackinac fell due to a ruse during a lacrosse game. The Indians "accidentally" threw the ball into the fort's gate, and the crowd followed as the amused British soldiers looked on. With the gate breached, they turned on the British and massacred them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:19 PM (ZOv7s)

213 It deserves the Galactic Empire flag (from Star Wars).
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 09:16 PM (qx7Zg)

A Gay Pride flag would be so appropriate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:19 PM (1z8ji)

214 What kind of ideas is Michigan having?
Posted by: I gotta ask at June 19, 2026 09:17 PM (D2IX4)
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Typos. "Ideal" of course, but this is in fact good writing weather.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:20 PM (ZOv7s)

215 Lacrosse is another quintessentially Canadian sport. Use a stick to beat the tar out of your opponent.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:15 PM (O0L8i)

And an American arguably the best ever Lacrosse player.

Jim Brown

Posted by: polynikes at June 19, 2026 09:20 PM (GP8V/)

216 Fixed the link to fabulous number 8.

Posted by: KT at June 19, 2026 09:21 PM (rdeQO)

217 Our team praying after their win in Seattle. It goes to x. https://tinyurl.com/3rps3bmk

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:22 PM (OoFl2)

218 Take a minute:

youtube.com/watch?v=DADmZdbQ9x8

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 09:22 PM (VPNgR)

219 Rugby is the sport I will.watch.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 09:22 PM (afJtY)

220 That dog up top looks like he just pitched a dollar bill onto the stage at the gents' club.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:22 PM (1z8ji)

221 Dubbed, "Lacrosse," because the racquet resembled the cross carried by French missionaries.

Posted by: davidt at June 19, 2026 09:23 PM (Q+gd/)

222 A Gay Pride flag would be so appropriate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:19 PM (1z8ji)
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There are a lot of them on houses this year, probably because they realize the tide has turned and they need to rally the troops and virtue signal.

Funny juxtaposition in my neighborhood.

Older black man has Trump yard sign still up. Pride flag goes up three doors down. He put up two signs calling people to Christ and to turn against sodomy.

Next door neighbor is muslim. Your move, pride guys.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:23 PM (ZOv7s)

223 Funny how the dude who used to have a tribal flag up is now flying a tranny flag. Yeah, nothing says "traditional native culture" like castration, you weirdo.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:24 PM (ZOv7s)

224 182 Because that'd be like decorating the entrance to the Fortress of Solitude with kryptonite.
Posted by: mikeski luthor at June 19, 2026 08:57 PM (VHUov)

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Can you even imagine an American flag on top of that commie monstrosity?
Posted by: Cicero



An East German flag would be right at home.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 19, 2026 09:25 PM (WBro8)

225

Pray that God doesn't smite people being whores.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:25 PM (/QHx4)

226 Dubbed, "Lacrosse," because the racquet resembled the cross carried by French missionaries.
Posted by: davidt at June 19, 2026 09:23 PM (Q+gd/)
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Oui.

Posted by: Black Robe at June 19, 2026 09:25 PM (ZOv7s)

227 Went to visit hubs for lunch (like usual) today, but one of the CNAs stopped me in the hallway-- said hub was having an extreme bout of agitation, had put all his things on his bed & was demanding to go home.

Ugh. Seen it before & was thankful for the 'warning' so I left. Ruined an already bad day, as today marks 7 years since Dad passed away.

Think I'll finish my beverage and go to bed. Tomorrow just *has to be* better!

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:25 PM (rdVOm)

228 Whoa

Posted by: Accomack at June 19, 2026 09:26 PM (8jVAy)

229 An East German flag would be right at home.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 19, 2026 09:25 PM (WBro
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An epic-level prank would be to paint pride slogans and tranny flags on it, and then see if they have the guts to clean it off.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:26 PM (ZOv7s)

230 An East German flag would be right at home.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Or ISIS, or Taliban...

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:26 PM (rdVOm)

231 An East German flag would be right at home.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 19, 2026 09:25 PM (WBro

Maybe we could start a cottage industry of using drones to affix appropriate flags to Barky's Maosoleum.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:27 PM (1z8ji)

232 Our team praying after their win in Seattle. It goes to x. https://tinyurl.com/3rps3bmk
Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:22 PM (OoFl2)

Nice. I think Team America is going to do well.

I say this knowing little about the soccer world.

But I do love the side stories of Europeans and Latin Americans falling in love with America. A lot of these folks are just regular people who scrimped and saved to get here. Not the hoity-toity rich that tour the country with their sniffy attitudes. Having worked in Yellowstone, I know the type. Snooty old-money ponces.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Dave's Not Here! at June 19, 2026 09:28 PM (0aYVJ)

233 >>Rugby is the sport I will.watch.

Even more fun to play.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 09:29 PM (viF8m)

234 An East German flag would be right at home.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Or ISIS, or Taliban...
Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:26 PM (rdVOm)

Paint a sign next to the entrance that the Muslim LGBTQ+ fellowship meets on the roof.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 09:29 PM (qx7Zg)

235 Last year the gay guys that live a few houses away from my business partner had every inch of their yard covered in gay paraphernalia. This year, nothing .

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2026 09:29 PM (afJtY)

236 228 Whoa
Posted by: Accomack at June

You saw that, too?

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:29 PM (OoFl2)

237 Or ISIS, or Taliban...
Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:26 PM (rdVOm)
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Kenya
Indonesia

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:29 PM (ZOv7s)

238 @RealJamesWoods

In the late seventies I crossed the Atlantic on the QE2. I went First Class, which I paid for with my first real paycheck. We had a mandatory dress code for dinner. Black Tie and commensurate formal wear for the ladies. It was one of my favorite memories

https://tinyurl.com/hrcunb3s

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 19, 2026 09:29 PM (VPNgR)

239
Dis blog sho' has gone crazy!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:29 PM (O0L8i)

240 Paint a sign next to the entrance that the Muslim LGBTQ+ fellowship meets on the roof.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

*snort*

Thanks, I needed a chuckle!

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:30 PM (rdVOm)

241 But I do love the side stories of Europeans and Latin Americans falling in love with America.

==

..and then going home...

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:30 PM (GD0B3)

242 231 An East German flag would be right at home.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 19, 2026 09:25 PM (WBro

Maybe we could start a cottage industry of using drones to affix appropriate flags to Barky's Maosoleum.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June

Think we could get in trouble for that? Maybe we just utilize AI and stay out of jail. The stories might not be as fun, I get it. But we do have some reputation to keep. I think.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:31 PM (OoFl2)

243 82 Because that'd be like decorating the entrance to the Fortress of Solitude with kryptonite.
Posted by: mikeski luthor


"The first Fortress of Solitude belonged to Doc Savage." Kryptonite won't do a thing to Doc.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 19, 2026 09:31 PM (B0dAE)

244 In America the gays are downtrodden and oppressed, but in Iran they soar.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 09:32 PM (6/7Fs)

245 In the late seventies I crossed the Atlantic on the QE2. I went First Class, which I paid for with my first real paycheck. We had a mandatory dress code for dinner. Black Tie and commensurate formal wear for the ladies. It was one of my favorite memories

https://tinyurl.com/hrcunb3s

==

Carnival ...

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:32 PM (GD0B3)

246 Euro trash loving America is pure click bait.

Posted by: Accomack at June 19, 2026 09:32 PM (8jVAy)

247
But I do love the side stories of Europeans and Latin Americans falling in love with America.

==

..and then going home...
Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:30 PM (GD0B3)

_____________

It will suffice for them to realize they've been lied to for years. And for them to begin wondering what other lies they've told.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:33 PM (O0L8i)

248 Think we could get in trouble for that? Maybe we just utilize AI and stay out of jail. The stories might not be as fun, I get it. But we do have some reputation to keep. I think.
Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:31 PM (OoFl2)

You only get in trouble if you get caught doing it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:33 PM (1z8ji)

249 In America the gays are downtrodden and oppressed, but in Iran they soar.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 19, 2026 09:32 PM (6/7Fs)
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"I believe I can fly..."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:33 PM (ZOv7s)

250 Think I'll finish my beverage and go to bed. Tomorrow just *has to be* better!
Posted by: JQ at June 19

Hugs to you. I can’t make it better, but I wish I could.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:33 PM (OoFl2)

251 It will suffice for them to realize they've been lied to for years. And for them to begin wondering what other lies they've told.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 09:33 PM (O0L8i)

I agree with commenter @246.. it's all clickbait and money for them. They know more about the US that some who live in the US.

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:34 PM (GD0B3)

252 "The first Fortress of Solitude belonged to Doc Savage." Kryptonite won't do a thing to Doc.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 19, 2026 09:31 PM (B0dAE)

Doc Savage was a cooler hero than Superman. He invented a super fast-shooting machine pistol, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:35 PM (1z8ji)

253 Thanks, Piper.

Posted by: JQ at June 19, 2026 09:36 PM (rdVOm)

254 I agree with commenter @246.. it's all clickbait and money for them. They know more about the US that some who live in the US.
Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09

I can tell you Freddy from DE is organic. The rest I think wanted to hope on his coattails, but his grew like it did because it was organic.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:36 PM (OoFl2)

255 They can love it or hate it. If I ever get my way, they'll never know which, because they won't be allowed in.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2026 09:37 PM (BI5O2)

256 Tomorrow wife and I are driving to Silver City in the Owyhee mountains. That corner of Idaho and Oregon is fascinating to me. We tried a couple months ago, but the road was gated about halfway up.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Dave's Not Here! at June 19, 2026 09:37 PM (0aYVJ)

257 254 Not hope. Hop. Goodness.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:37 PM (OoFl2)

258 Y'all are some cynical sumbitches. : )

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Dave's Not Here! at June 19, 2026 09:38 PM (0aYVJ)

259 Did you all hear that we are about to lose blue and brown M&Ms ??!

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:38 PM (GD0B3)

260

SUW.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:38 PM (/QHx4)

261 259 Did you all hear that we are about to lose blue and brown M&Ms ??!
Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09

Oh noes!

I had no idea there were blue ones.

Wait. Is this a joke?

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:39 PM (OoFl2)

262 I had no idea there were blue ones.

Wait. Is this a joke?
Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:39 PM (OoFl2)

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Stay away from the green ones.

Posted by: Eddie Van Halen at June 19, 2026 09:40 PM (6/7Fs)

263
Whores gonna whore.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:40 PM (/QHx4)

264 If the US actually wins the cup, it will be due to divine intervention.

And the GOP will sweep the midterms, because the Dems will be whining about it and refusing to celebrate.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:40 PM (ZOv7s)

265 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Dave's Not Here! at June 19, 2026 09:37 PM (0aYVJ)


Get a cabin in the mountains, by a river or a creek ! Get up at dawn on a weekend , go fishing in crystal clear waters...

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:41 PM (GD0B3)

266 How did humanity lose the technology to make brown chocolate candy?

Posted by: banana Dream at June 19, 2026 09:41 PM (3uBP9)

267 Did you all hear that we are about to lose blue and brown M&Ms ??!
Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:38 PM (GD0B3)
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The brown ones give you a baaad trip, man.

Posted by: Geriatric Woodstock Hippie at June 19, 2026 09:41 PM (ZOv7s)

268 If the US actually wins the cup, it will be due to divine intervention.

===

I think the best showing was quarter finals ? Beating the likes of Spain, or Brazil or even Argentina is an insurmountable task for newbies like the US.

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:42 PM (GD0B3)

269 Tomorrow wife and I are driving to Silver City in the Owyhee mountains. That corner of Idaho and Oregon is fascinating to me. We tried a couple months ago, but the road was gated about halfway up.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Dave's Not Here! at June 19, 2026 09:37 PM (0aYVJ)


Silver City used to be one of the most prosperous cities in Idaho, until the mines played out. One of Dad's older friends had been an attorney there

Posted by: Kindltot at June 19, 2026 09:42 PM (rbvCR)

270 >>I can tell you Freddy from DE is organic. The rest I think wanted to hope on his coattails, but his grew like it did because it was organic.

From my experience the general makeup of Europe and a lot of places isn't that different from here. The elites who control the media, are all elitists and leftists, many even worse than ours. But the regular people aren't all that different from us.

And we love it here. I think a lot of them do as well because we have it way better than they do and now they are seeing this place as it really is not what the left tells them it is.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2026 09:42 PM (viF8m)

271 Whores gonna whore.
Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:40 PM (/QHx4)
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This is about me, isn't it? Would you like to see a painting?

Posted by: Hunter Biden, Esq. at June 19, 2026 09:42 PM (ZOv7s)

272 255 They can love it or hate it. If I ever get my way, they'll never know which, because they won't be allowed in.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19,

Let’s not get too hasty. We can have a few on our exceptions list, right? Not all though. Just a select few.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:43 PM (OoFl2)

273 Oh noes!

I had no idea there were blue ones.

Wait. Is this a joke?
Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:39 PM (OoFl2)

No. I don't joke. MAHA and all that.

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:43 PM (GD0B3)

274 I had no idea there were blue ones.

Wait. Is this a joke?
Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:39 PM (OoFl2)

Yes.

I do not eat much candy, but sometimes I'll buy a bag of M&Ms, then spend some time sorting them by color on a little plate, then eat one sequentially in a clockwise pattern.

Friends and family think that is weird, for some reason.

I do the same thing with Skittles.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your fce is weird! at June 19, 2026 09:44 PM (0aYVJ)

275 No. I don't joke. MAHA and all that.
Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:43 PM (GD0B3)
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Blue makes sense, brown is wtf, though.

Posted by: Hunter Biden, Esq. at June 19, 2026 09:45 PM (ZOv7s)

276 Apparently blue No2 is the wurst and brown is based on blue, so there you go. GONE! OUT OF HERE!

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:45 PM (GD0B3)

277 I think they owe us two new colours!

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:46 PM (GD0B3)

278
Whores are gonna whore.

Beware of the whore who is trying to move up

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:47 PM (/QHx4)

279 So, how many of youz went to get mail today ?

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:48 PM (GD0B3)

280 Apparently blue No2 is the wurst and brown is based on blue, so there you go. GONE! OUT OF HERE!
Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:45 PM (GD0B3)
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I bought some of the NKD Doritos last week due to a sale because my kids like them. I don't. They taste off. Or maybe I changed.

My wife tore into a bag and called me over. "Try this! It tastes like they used to taste."

So I did and WOW, they do taste so much better. Less, chemical, metallic, odd. It's weird to have a flavor come back through the old memory banks, but that was it, what I remember from waaay back when.

Posted by: Hunter Biden, Esq. at June 19, 2026 09:48 PM (ZOv7s)

281 Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:39 PM (OoFl2)

Yes.

Dang. I meant no. there are, or were blue M&Ms. (My brain is in Friday night mode.)

I remember being a kid in the 1980s and the red ones were taboo, because Red Dye will kill all the kids or something.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your fae is weird! at June 19, 2026 09:48 PM (0aYVJ)

282 trying again with my really clever nic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your face is weird! at June 19, 2026 09:50 PM (0aYVJ)

283 Ok, here a suggestion, Gold M&Ms! No need to thank me.

Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:50 PM (GD0B3)

284 Nailed it. Didn't account for windage.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your face is weird! at June 19, 2026 09:50 PM (0aYVJ)

285 Beware of the whore who is trying to move up
Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:47 PM (/QHx4)
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Ahem.

Posted by: Kamala at June 19, 2026 09:50 PM (ZOv7s)

286 So, how many of youz went to get mail today ?
Posted by: runner at June 19, 2026 09:48 PM (GD0B3)

I did. No Juneteenth BS here in Canada, but there were still no big fat checks in the mailbox.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:51 PM (1z8ji)

287 What do you call a mouse that swears?

A cursor.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 19, 2026 09:52 PM (qx7Zg)

288 Time to make supper. Back for the ONT.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:52 PM (1z8ji)

289 Okay, so my wife just rolled in and said that medible marijuana is on sale today because it's Juneteenth. Well of course, what better way to celebrate the end of slavery that by putting pot on deep discount.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:52 PM (ZOv7s)

290 Three things cannot long be hidden: the sun, the moon, and the whore.

Posted by: Things Confucius wanted to say but did not at June 19, 2026 09:53 PM (GD0B3)

291 Seriously, man...

Fuck Paramount.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at June 19, 2026 09:53 PM (Zn6QU)

292 Time to make supper. Back for the ONT.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 19, 2026 09:52 PM (1z8ji)

Medium rare for me. Thanks.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your face is weird! at June 19, 2026 09:53 PM (0aYVJ)

293 On that drug-induced munchy note, I think I shall sign off.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 19, 2026 09:53 PM (ZOv7s)

294
Some whores only remember who elevates them into what they they think is acceptable society. Doesn't matter, they are still whores.

.

Posted by: four seasons at June 19, 2026 09:54 PM (/QHx4)

295 It was stay away from the brown acid man, bummer!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 19, 2026 09:55 PM (ZVgZ4)

296 Henceforth, all M&Ms will be a drab NPC gray.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'm not weird, your face is weird! at June 19, 2026 09:58 PM (0aYVJ)

297 I don’t have to do the front desk tomorrow, one of my other instructors is going in to take and help. So now I decide if I blow off going in at all or do I go take the 930a- if I don’t work out, I will whine to y’all about it, and then someone will probably smack me. Hmmm, decisions, decisions.

Posted by: Piper at June 19, 2026 09:58 PM (Wmg4n)

298
Out on the back deck, just now at 10 too dark to read.

God knew what he was doing when he invented Sommer solstice.

Posted by: Auspex at June 19, 2026 10:00 PM (Y8DZL)

299
"A man who marries his mistress simply creates a job vacancy." - Sir James Goldsmith

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2026 10:02 PM (O0L8i)

300 Christianity: there is no sin beyond the mercy of God.

Leftism: you can never be forgiven and your sin can constantly be dug up and used against you.
_-_
Good formulation, there. My daughter said to me the other day, "They've rediscovered original sin, but they nothing about grace " That kid's gonna turn out all right.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 19, 2026 10:03 PM (iP/HW)

301 300 Christianity: there is no sin beyond the mercy of God.

Leftism: you can never be forgiven and your sin can constantly be dug up and used against you.
_-_
Good formulation, there. My daughter said to me the other day, "They've rediscovered original sin, but they know nothing about grace " That kid's gonna turn out all right.

There. Fixed it.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at June 19, 2026 10:15 PM (iP/HW)

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