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Physical Deportation Is The First Step, And Cutting Illegals Off From Our Society Is The Next Step!

Going after violent illegals is an absolutely necessary first step in cleansing our country of the scourge of uncontrolled illegal immigration. Traffic stops, chasing them on foot, or if necessary breaking down doors at 3:00AM and dragging them to a waiting flight to Sh*tcanistan is something that the American people will support.

But the huge numbers of illegals in our country make physical deportation a long and complex process. Luckily, there are other ways! As I wrote a few days ago, going after their employers, starting with the biggest companies will make huge inroads into the illegal population by denying them the ability to steal Americans' identities and undercut their price for labor.

And there is more! Lax enforcement of existing laws, and banks that chased their business have allowed illegals to enter our financial systems, with credit cards, bank accounts, auto and home loans, etc.

Will the administration end that? It sure sounds like they are beginning to take it seriously, or at least paying some attention!

Stephen Miller says Trump administration is pursuing policy to debank illegal immigrants

"President Trump signed an executive order a few weeks ago saying that we are not going to allow illegal aliens to use banking services in this country," Miller said.

"Illegal aliens have credit cards, they have bank accounts and they're paid with direct deposit. So, illegal aliens fully participate in the commercial systems, the financial systems of America. Shutting that down is a massive engine for deportation."

Miller was likely referring to an executive order Trump signed on May 19 that directed banks and federal regulators to increase scrutiny of accounts and credit applications involving immigrants without legal status or work authorization.

The order did not explicitly instruct banks to deny credit cards or bank accounts to illegal immigrants, but compliance with it could make it more difficult for them to participate in the financial system.

Federal agencies have already begun acting on Trump's executive order.


Executive orders are a stopgap measure. But it is a start. The real teeth will come if the various banking regulators demand that banks positively identify all account holders, and verify that their identification is not fraudulent or stolen. As I mentioned on Thursday, "E-Verify" needs to be improved, because we are our own worst enemy. But forcing the issue and making financial institutions take seriously the identification regulations would go a long way toward pushing illegals back to their home countries. If they can't easily open bank accounts or cash checks or buy cars or get an account with the electric company, their lives will become much more difficult.

And that is the goal! We have made their lives effortless for too long. It is time to push them back into the shadows, and make every interaction with the legal financial world a risk.

Debanking is an excellent start.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




Comments

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1 Good afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 I will go nood the Bookworms

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 12:02 PM (InJki)

3 Block their gd transfer payments.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:02 PM (RCjYY)

4 Deporting is goal but keeping them out afterwards is the problem.
In theory I am to believe, a second offense is a serious charge . Yet keep hearing some have been deported multiple times

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:02 PM (Ia/+0)

5 Effortless?
one or two steps better, I would go with "subsidized".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (VyBeY)

6 Nooded.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (InJki)

7 Big employers are the key. Every meat-packing plant (which are a cartel) should be hammered. Tyson Foods (Dresden, Mo, anyone?) should be hammered.
Lower housing prices, raise wages, break up the "trusts".

Posted by: MkY at July 19, 2026 12:05 PM (q6tQZ)

8 If we could get all 50 states and DC to cut off medicaid and other federal government services like snap, direct welfare payments and the EIC/child care tax payments for the one's who work with an ITN they would almost all self deport.


Problem is that is never going to happen.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 12:06 PM (0N4FZ)

9 BTW, what happened to the idea that the USDA shouldn't have to sign off on every beef butchered?
Do we still need a USDA inspector in every butchering house?
I don't know.

Posted by: MkY at July 19, 2026 12:06 PM (q6tQZ)

10 they're paid with direct deposit.

For example: all monies from government entities.

Stop feeding our invaders.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:07 PM (NnhvP)

11 Taxing remittances needs to be the law.

Posted by: huerfano at July 19, 2026 12:08 PM (VJX5o)

12 BBC

Health officials identify source of US explosive diarrhoea outbreak
38 minutes ago

A sample of iceberg lettuce from the food supplier Taylor Farms has tested positive for the parasite that caused an explosive diarrhoea outbreak affecting thousands of people in the US, officials said.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said that Taylor Farms, which supplies the Taco Bell food chain, had confirmed the sample was taken from a product not part of its current recall announced on Friday.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 12:09 PM (6wpGE)

13 I always thought the notion that Americans are financially obligated to support illegal aliens in public schools was one of the worst possible decisions they could possibly make. Coupled with the fairy tale “birthright citizenship” nonsense, it matters not what the laws say. It’s a losing battle. Plyler vs. whatever.

If you want to deconstruct society, this is how you do it. Maybe you think this is a good idea, but it’s illegal as hell. “Judges” have largely been the ruin of this nation, arguably. Experts, the “best and brightest”, Ivy League spooks, good old boys from Deah Old Hahvahd.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:09 PM (OPIYi)

14 4

Entry Without Inspection (EWI) is a federal misdemeanor. "Entry Without Inspection Pursuant to a Prior Order of Deportation" (i.e., a second offense) CAN be charged as a felony, but rarely is.

I assume Trump's DOJ is cracking down on repeat illegal alien offenders now.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:10 PM (RCjYY)

15 > Stephen Miller says Trump administration is pursuing policy to debank illegal immigrants
----------
Apparently the range of FedGov entities includes most of the IC as well as all those associated with monetary policy. If it's anywhere as aggressive as I'd hope it'd be it will rile up the left big time.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:10 PM (jehhT)

16 We have made their lives effortless for too long."

Well how else can we get more and more population? After all, all growth is good!

/ chamber of commerce

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (cGjQu)

17 The USDA?

Ever here this one?

A USDA employee arrives at work one morning in DC and finds his office mate in tears, balling his eyes out. The worker says "What's wrong? What happened?

This colleague replies "My farmer died."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (qFwJc)

18 Push 1 for English!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (NnhvP)

19 De-banking is good. The list CBD published the other enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.
There are not people who would take those jobs. In order to replace those jobs with citizens we must stop paying people not to work. Those are the people who would be replacement on CBD's list.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (3oLMy)

20 Does the contamination of Lettuce infiltrate inside the tissue? I would think so in the case of Lettuce, but I don’t really know. In this case washing the exterior of vegetables isn’t going to help.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (OPIYi)

21 Yes, every federally inspected meat plant has government inspectors on site for slaughter operations. Other aspects of processing do not require direct inspection, but require detailed HACCP plans and documentation that are regularly reviewed by USDA.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (kOluj)

22 18 Push 1 for English!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (NnhvP)

Pretty soon they won't even be offering that

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (FtULh)

23 The list CBD published the other day if enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:13 PM (3oLMy)

24 Great point CBD. I had never before thought about this aspect of illegal immigration. Now that you bring it up, it’s annoying that they can integrate so easily and seamlessly into our society. Thanks a lot B of A and Chase and Wells Fargo etc….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 12:14 PM (26GAh)

25 The list CBD published the other day if enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.
Posted by: Braenyard

Until those businesses are forced to pay Market wages, Then Americans would take those jobs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:15 PM (NnhvP)

26 I don't even go into my bank anymore... The line is always a mile long and it's not generally English speakers....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 12:15 PM (FtULh)

27 I've got a few ideas.
If you wanna use WallyMart to send remittances to another country it has to be in person (no phone apps) and you have to show a birth certificate every time. And tax it. Tax the hell out of it. Limit it to $1000 a month. Make it painful.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 12:16 PM (2Ez/1)

28 Debanking is an excellent start.

However, we must be realistic. Many, if not most of the banks will fight back by doing whatever they can to subvert the process. Examples must be made. Swords must be shaken, and shields must be splintered.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

29 In order to replace those jobs with citizens we must stop paying people not to work
——

You can see the evil genius at work, if you take the view in from 20,000 feet.

No fucking way could they EVER have imported millions of illegals over the years without a significant portion of the affected people being paid off. And drugged.

We can see descendants of slaves going to bat for hordes of illegals taking jobs, driving up costs, insurance etc.

Union bosses handwaving away millions of imported illegals driving down wages. It’s astonishing really.

Yeah, lots of payola involved.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (OPIYi)

30
This seems too many degrees of separation from deportation.

"Increase scrutiny. " Then what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (mmrXZ)

31 8

Illegal aliens don't USE ITNs! They make up a SSN instead! Which is also a federal misdemeanor, i.e. "Misuse of a Social Security Number."

The Social Security Administration sends "no match" letters to employers when this happens. That's why employers who hire illegals don't have to buy toilet paper.

Someone mentioned meat packers. Don't forget big, industrial scale bakers, either.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:18 PM (RCjYY)

32 The reason so many illegals came here is we made it easy for them to come here. Walk across the border and you get virtually all the rights and privileges of an American citizen.

Stop making it easy including debanking, food assistance, medical care, jobs, etc. and most will self-deport. And Democrats might not ever win another national election.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:19 PM (viF8m)

33 We have made their lives effortless for too long."

Well how else can we get more and more population? After all, all growth is good!

/ chamber of commerce

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM


The problem with that is they never assimilate and reproduce like rabbits and their kids have the same attitudes. We have some illegals around here that have been in the country illegally for 10-20 years and still don't speak english. That's why pretty much every social service in our county has to have their stuff printed in english and spanish and they have translators on staff.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (0N4FZ)

34 Until those businesses are forced to pay Market wages, Then Americans would take those jobs.

Some will, but there are many Americans who now view a job as optional. The rules must be changed again (back to where they were after the GOP forced reform on Clinton), so that welfare, under whatever guise, is limited in time, and/or available only to the truly needy.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (Riz8t)

35 In the very early 1900's a play started up on Broadway called "The Melting Pot" created by a dramatist named Zangwill. That's how the term wormed its way into the common lexicon and gave the US the reputation of welcoming immigrants, but with the caveat that they must assimilate to create a finished product; An American.

However, the concept failed as the motivations of the new arrivals changed. Now, many new arrivals make every effort to avoid assimilation. Instead, they force their own failed cultural indiosyncracies on established residents. Other motivations are purely personal finances and exploitation. For some it is to eventual absolute dominance and destruction.

Which makes me wonder if the term "Melting pot" is considered bigotry by today's left and their invading minions. Especially since the man that coined the phrase (Zangwill) was Jewish.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (dIske)

36 "Increase scrutiny. " Then what?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (mmrXZ)


Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (l4RKn)

37 I always thought the notion that Americans are financially obligated to support illegal aliens in public schools was one of the worst possible decisions they could possibly make"

This. Plyler was a garbage decision.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (cGjQu)

38 The problem with that is they never assimilate and reproduce like rabbits and their kids have the same attitudes"

This. Try to utilize any kind of service.

Good luck.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:22 PM (cGjQu)

39 10 they're paid with direct deposit.
For example: all monies from government entities.
Stop feeding our invaders.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
---------

Stop feeding layabout citizens. As their EBT is cut off they can replace the newly deported low echelon workers.





Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:22 PM (3oLMy)

40
Nonsense! Debanking is only to be used on conservatives.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 12:23 PM (UU6Zb)

41 I had an account with US Bank and the front window at a branch I went to advertised accounts could be established with a Matricula Consular. This was an "ID" that was issued by Mexican consulates in the US with next to no or with no documentation. It had as much bono fide support as a AOS moron sockpuppeting BEN ROTHLESBURGER sockpuppeting Mary Clogenstein.

The kicker is the Matricula Consular could not be used as ID in Mexico.

Meanwhile US Bank didn't accept Military ID as an acceptable ID document.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 19, 2026 12:23 PM (47/pr)

42 Stop feeding layabout citizens. As their EBT is cut off they can replace the newly deported low echelon workers.


And to those who then say "that's racist!", I encourage them to contemplate the implications of their statement.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:24 PM (Riz8t)

43
Instead, they force their own failed cultural indiosyncracies on established residents. 

____________

Started with the Irish, of course.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 12:24 PM (UU6Zb)

44 Until those businesses are forced to pay Market wages, Then Americans would take those jobs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
---

Those are jobs for poor people. There are no poor Americans.
The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work; they aren't getting up, leaving their Doritoes and watching the View to go to no damn job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:25 PM (3oLMy)

45 Debank the banks!

Posted by: Wait A Minute at July 19, 2026 12:26 PM (JM9I6)

46 And to those who then say "that's racist!", I encourage them to contemplate the implications of their statement.

Posted by: Archimedes
---

and consider the innumerable counties that have as many 'white folk' on the roles as other

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:27 PM (3oLMy)

47 If the left's various money laundering operations are rolled up, their political violence outfits disbanded, and the number of illegals that remain in the country is reduced to insignificant, a lot of current layabouts are going to either find employment, or leave.

Seeing as how most, if not all of those layabouts are leftist shits with zero motivation.

They can go fight Canadian fires for free. And hope Canada takes pity on them and offers MAID.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:27 PM (jehhT)

48 The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work

What, oh what, could be the solution to this conundrum?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

49 Don't remember exactly not that is a known number anyway that could be 100 million illegals here.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (Ia/+0)

50 I was once present at an ICE raid of the Gilster Mary Lee bakery in IL, near STL.

Honduran women covered in flower. The next day, the company's phones lit up with wannabe job applicants, who figured there might be some job openings.

I believe that a flood of new, legal job applicants is a common occurrence after an ICE workplace enforcement operation.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY)

51 The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work; they aren't getting up, leaving their Doritoes and watching the View to go to no damn job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:25 PM (3oLMy)

Then stop paying them. Work, or starve.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (1z8ji)

52 And Democrats might not ever win another national election.
Posted by: JackStraw

I'd gladly accept this impact.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 19, 2026 12:29 PM (NnhvP)

53 Started with the Irish, of course.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Amen to that! Second-class citizens, even that's a reach.

Posted by: Leutonian Supremacist at July 19, 2026 12:29 PM (JM9I6)

54 "29 In order to replace those jobs with citizens we must stop paying people not to work
——

You can see the evil genius at work, if you take the view in from 20,000 feet.

No fucking way could they EVER have imported millions of illegals over the years without a significant portion of the affected people being paid off. And drugged.

We can see descendants of slaves going to bat for hordes of illegals taking jobs, driving up costs, insurance etc.

Union bosses handwaving away millions of imported illegals driving down wages. It’s astonishing really.

Yeah, lots of payola involved.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:17 PM (OPIYi) "

and practically every penny of it coming from the pockets of honest squares working 40+ hours a week.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (VyBeY)

55
Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

================

There's no law, regulation, or order barring illegal aliens from having US bank accounts. Banks are advised to treat probable illegal alien accounts as a higher risk. (I'm sure chase and bofa will get right on it. )

Where's the difficulty?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (mmrXZ)

56 Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.

Eh. It depends. If the incremental increase is a small fraction of the difficulty of living in the home country, they'll still want to stay. That's where we are now.

Would you rather live with somewhat less welfare in the US, or go back to Haiti?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (Riz8t)

57 The biggest problem remains that employers hire illegals. Without a job they couldn’t stay here, bank account or not

I don’t know how they get these jobs. I recently started a new job and on day one I had to show my birth certificate and social security card!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 12:31 PM (ugElV)

58 Which makes me wonder if the term "Melting pot" is considered bigotry by today's left and their invading minions. Especially since the man that coined the phrase (Zangwill) was Jewish.
Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:20 PM (dIske)

Dude, I'm 42, and ever since I was in elementary school, the dull normal meatbags we pay to pretend to work in these places all said it was mucho racism.

It's been on the shit list for a loooooong time. Their preferred term was "salad bowl" in the sense that everyone retains their different cultures, improving our boring, racist salad, which isn't a real salad because it was just lettuce until the enrichers added their cyclosporiasis to it and made it exciting.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 12:31 PM (BI5O2)

59 Debank the illegals!
Depants the Book Thread!

Posted by: Even Steven at July 19, 2026 12:31 PM (JM9I6)

60 Opps.

>>@EricLDaugh
·
55s
>>🚨 WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio

>>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (viF8m)

61 >>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY
Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (viF8m)

Must have run out of pets in Springfield.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (BI5O2)

62 55
Every incremental increase in the difficulty of living in America will push those on the margins to self-deport.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

================

Has making it illegal to send money out of the US been mentioned.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:35 PM (3oLMy)

63 >>Must have run out of pets in Springfield.

They aren't eating the pets of the people who live there.

whoa whoa whoa

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:35 PM (viF8m)

64 I have argued, and still do, that Europe is on the cusp of a major shift. It may not be all peaceful. It should start with the illegals, but also with the ruling class which enabled the destruction of the country as it was.

Voters in country after country appear to have grown weary of the same experiment: ballooning welfare states, open-border policies, identity-driven governance, and supranational rules that delivered stagnation, insecurity, and a quiet erosion of national sovereignty.

https://tinyurl.com/4df8vfmw

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:35 PM (Riz8t)

65
WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio

>>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY
Posted by: JackStraw

===============

Where'd they flee to? my guess is new york city or California.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:36 PM (mmrXZ)

66 🚨 WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio
----------
Begs the question; where'd they go? Certainly not back to Haiti.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:36 PM (jehhT)

67 WOW! Americans are celebrating after a new report finds 80% PERCENT of Haitian illegal aliens fled Springfield, Ohio

>>Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY


Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:36 PM (Riz8t)

68 Local Haitians are PANICKING, saying business has plummeted, restaurants and stores EMPTY"

And my brother in laws apartments are empty! This cannot stand!

/ohio politicians

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (cGjQu)

69 Where'd they flee to? my guess is new york city or California.

Begs the question; where'd they go? Certainly not back to Haiti.

Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Great minds.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (Riz8t)

70 ME immigants do NOT melting pot!

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (RCjYY)

71 I have nl faith elections wont be frauded in a different ways

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:38 PM (Ia/+0)

72 FASTER!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:38 PM (aI58f)

73 Debank illegal invaders. Start with Bank Of America first. They suck Bags O Dick.

Posted by: BOA Sucks BOD at July 19, 2026 12:38 PM (45BvE)

74 The Fkin Marxists are starting a civil war if they can.
They are not giving up

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (Ia/+0)

75 - Dude, I'm 42,...

Expecting the word "lawn" will be in a number of coming comments.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (dAv7M)

76
Voters in country after country appear to have grown weary of the same experiment: ballooning welfare states --

Posted by: Archimedes

==============

Exempting MY welfare, however.

Posted by: Every European voter at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (mmrXZ)

77 72 FASTER!

It's my understanding that Gaza has been depopulated by genocide. Can we send them there?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)

78
I don’t know how they get these jobs. I recently started a new job and on day one I had to show my birth certificate and social security card!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt
---

If CBD would publish the list from the other day (or was it Throckmorton?). Anyway. It was a laundry list of areas illegals have taken over the job market. They are bottom tier jobs. Not much inquiry required.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (3oLMy)

79 Tax remittances at 60%.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (nqEzG)

80 Exempting MY welfare, however.

Axiomatic.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (Riz8t)

81 Voters in country after country appear to have grown weary of the same experiment: ballooning welfare states --"

Those immigrants all work and stuff!

/Mike DeStupid, Ohio

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (cGjQu)

82 @60 JackStraw, Governor DeWine must be having a nervous breakdown. They're his people

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 12:41 PM (OXYE0)

83 The reason so many illegals came here is we made it easy for them to come here.
——

We did no such fucking thing, Jack. This is enemy action. Get it in your head.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:41 PM (OPIYi)

84 70 ME immigants do NOT melting pot!

Posted by: mnw
---

They want to kill us, it's in their oath, it's preached in their mosques. WHY ARE THEY HERE?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (3oLMy)

85 I want the leftists who are facilitating the illegal takeover to be debanked too. Along with their foot soldiers. All of it. Bankrupt the whole thing.

At that point the illegals still here are baggage on the conveyer belt out of the country.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (jehhT)

86 >>Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Of course we do. But if you never try and just accept that we will always lose, we will.

Guess what the average rent in NYC is these days. Mamdani's idiotic regime is going to crash and burn. He's already running multi-billion dollar deficits. California is coming apart at the seams. They are running out of sanctuaries because their idiotic policies were nothing more than a ponzi scheme that relied on the feds to keep sending endless checks. Those days are over.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (viF8m)

87 A Moron, this last week, pointed out that DHS has a web site
(The Worst of the Worst) which shows the worst of the illegals, state by state. It is well worth the look:

https://www.dhs.gov/wow

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (XeU6L)

88 Those immigrants all work and stuff!

/Mike DeStupid, Ohio


Many do, and it's unrealistic to say otherwise. Yes, outright majorities take advantage of various types of welfare, but there are many who, let's be honest, work a lot harder than the native born would.

We should understand that getting rid of them will come with costs in terms of the expense and quality of labor.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:42 PM (Riz8t)

89 We did no such fucking thing, Jack. This is enemy action. Get it in your head.

Posted by: Common Tater
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Ease up, and back up on that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:43 PM (3oLMy)

90 Of course we do. But if you never try and just accept that we will always lose, we will.

Oh, I'm not suggesting we shouldn't, just that this problem, which was built over a half century, won't be resolved overnight, and without any pain.

I like pain.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (Riz8t)

91
13 I always thought the notion that Americans are financially obligated to support illegal aliens in public schools was one of the worst possible decisions they could possibly make. Coupled with the fairy tale “birthright citizenship” nonsense, it matters not what the laws say. It’s a losing battle. Plyler vs. whatever.”

Plyler vs Doe, 1982. It always amuses me that i knew Jim Plyler, who at the time was the Superintendent of Schools for the Tyler School District. The case was brought by the US DOJ after Tyler Schools refused to admit the children of illegal aliens in 1981.

It is the practice to name cases between organizations with the name of the person who is in charge of the organization being sued. It always amused Jim that his name was made famous by such a significant case, even though he himself had very little to do with it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (dP8GR)

92 Must have run out of pets in Springfield.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Tell them to try Mayfield. Ward Cleaver and Fred Rutherford did just fine there. Ward even got a new car every year!

Posted by: Der Fernseher at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (JM9I6)

93 Europe is a petri dish. An experiment to find out if voters can change the immigration system fast enough, before new Muslim voters make that impossible.

And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:44 PM (RCjYY)

94 >>@60 JackStraw, Governor DeWine must be having a nervous breakdown. They're his people

Be interesting to see what Vivek actually does if he wins.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:45 PM (viF8m)

95 Tell them to try Mayfield. Ward Cleaver and Fred Rutherford did just fine there. Ward even got a new car every year!

That's only because his wife brought in an excellent salary as a translator.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

96 Another area to clamp down on is sending money out of the country by illegals. Require a real or US ID passport or work authorization/visa for non-citizens here legally when doing that. Don't have those? Welcome to a 50% processing and convienence fees or even better the transaction is denied.

Plus, for illegals, no driver's licenses, no car tabs, no welfare, no medical insurance, no public school enrollments or education financial aid, and so on.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 19, 2026 12:46 PM (/eAef)

97 69 Where'd they flee to? my guess is new york city or California.

Begs the question; where'd they go? Certainly not back to Haiti.

Great, but the next question is "where did they go". If they just moved to another town, or dispersed so as to be less obvious, we have a long way to go towards solving the problem.

Great minds.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:37 PM (Riz8t)
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This might surprise your, or maybe not. BUT, they are going to Canada. Montreal has already put out a notice on the massive influx of Haitian refugees as a result of their lost protected status in the US. Ironically, their get in free card for Canada is that Canada has always given prefernce to French speaking immigrants.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:46 PM (dIske)

98 At that point the illegals still here are baggage on the conveyer belt out of the country.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Berserker had that last night only he added a pinwheel of rotating boots.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:47 PM (3oLMy)

99 This might surprise your, or maybe not.

That does surprise me. Canada has apparently decided on MAID for the entire country.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:48 PM (Riz8t)

100 Meanwhile US Bank didn't accept Military ID as an acceptable ID document.
Posted by: Minuteman
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No one accepts my VA ID as valid ID.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:49 PM (XeU6L)

101 9 BTW, what happened to the idea that the USDA shouldn't have to sign off on every beef butchered?
Do we still need a USDA inspector in every butchering house?
I don't know.
Posted by: MkY
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States can have their own and many states do but they do it on terms of USDA and it does not supercede USDA's ability to independently do inspections. Same as with EPA, most of the enforcement of actions are actually done by state agencies.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 12:50 PM (E4rtv)

102 It's my understanding that Gaza has been depopulated by genocide. Can we send them there?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 12:39 PM (Riz8t)
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If the Somali fits!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:50 PM (aI58f)

103 > At that point the illegals still here are baggage on the conveyer belt out of the country.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Berserker had that last night only he added a pinwheel of rotating boots.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
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And here I thought I was waxing poetic.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:51 PM (jehhT)

104 And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.

Posted by: mnw
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Boats don't land in Italy. Navy's been issued, no landing, orders two months ago.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:52 PM (3oLMy)

105 Boats don't land in Italy. Navy's been issued, no landing, orders two months ago.


We'll see about that.

Posted by: The EU elite, luxuriating in air-conditioned splendor at July 19, 2026 12:53 PM (Riz8t)

106 As for "doing jobs Americans won't do."

There's some truth in that. We used to have temporary immigrant work permits for farm workers, Braceros. Work, earn money legally, go home.

Israel still does that.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:53 PM (RCjYY)

107 I don’t know how they get these jobs. I recently started a new job and on day one I had to show my birth certificate and social security card!
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You sweet summer child! Correct Paperwork, documentation, notarizing, every jot and tittle signed off, that shit is for harassing people like you.

Illegal aliens get pulled over. No license, no registration, no insurance. “Have a Nice Day”.

You, dear Citizen, put out your garbage can by mistake on Thursday, instead of Friday. Code Enforcement sez that’s $128.32 fine.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:54 PM (OPIYi)

108 This might surprise your, or maybe not. BUT, they are going to Canada. Montreal has already put out a notice on the massive influx of Haitian refugees as a result of their lost protected status in the US. Ironically, their get in free card for Canada is that Canada has always given prefernce to French speaking immigrants.
Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:46 PM (dIske)

FWIW, a couple of weeks ago, I filled up my Suburban at a discount gas station in the tiny hamlet of Balzac, Alberta. Just outside the northern city limits of Calgary. Waiting at the pump, in front of me was a U-Haul box truck being filled by a swarthy guy. It had Arizona plates, Parked in the lot were four other U-Haul box trucks, ALL with AZ plates. The station is a U-Haul agency. Now it's not unusual for U-Haul agencies to have out-of-area plates. But for all the out-of-area plates to be from ONE locality? Weird.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:55 PM (1z8ji)

109 ...then they came for the Somalis and I didn't say anything because I was helping fuel the helicopters.

Posted by: Knee mauler at July 19, 2026 12:55 PM (2Ez/1)

110 LOL@DOGE:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfr778f

Referring to the WaPo article:

https://t.co/vbAx4nSUA2

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:56 PM (aI58f)

111 It should be obvious to everyone by now the only reason we have an illegal immigration problem is because Democrats need them here. They need them for census reasons and they need them for votes which they obviously do no matter how much Democrats lie.

If we want a permanent solution we have to find a way to stop allowing Democrats to gain power. Democrats are the root of the problem. They create the policies that create illegal immigration.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:56 PM (viF8m)

112 > And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.
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Not every illegal who comes to America is interested in handouts. Some have political aspirations that go beyond just having influence in elections.

They want themselves to be elected. This way they can push legislation (as they've been doing in Congress for years) to facilitate more illegals of their ilk to resettle here. Changing the entire demographics of cities, counties and states.

It's been successful in Minnesota with the Somalis and elsewhere with Mexicans. In Springfield, OH it was Haitians.

It's a fucking invasion.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:57 PM (jehhT)

113 There are so many advantages for employers who hire illegals.

No workers comp claims, for one. No unemployment insurance claims.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:59 PM (RCjYY)

114 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

115 I have been shouting this for ten years: Disallow the tax write off for employers for the wages paid to illegals. Start auditing employers for 3 years back when more than 5 are found on a payroll and make the employer pay the disallowed back taxes.

Employers will start chasing the illegals off the property on their own.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (rbvCR)

116 There's no law, regulation, or order barring illegal aliens from having US bank accounts.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 12:30 PM (mmrXZ)


This is true. But using fake or stolen ID is very much illegal, and that is what most of them do.

But making it illegal for illegals to participate, even with genuine ID, is obviously the best outcome.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (l4RKn)

117 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)


Buy some goats

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (rbvCR)

118 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats


Yeah, that's an excellent plan. Where do you live?

Posted by: Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad at July 19, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

119 If CBD would publish the list from the other day...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:40 PM (3oLMy)


It's at the link in the post.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2026 01:02 PM (l4RKn)

120 If we want a permanent solution we have to find a way to stop allowing Democrats to gain power. Democrats are the root of the problem.


Republicans have plenty to answer for, it is by no means restricted to Democrats. As i’m fond of saying, Democrats fuck shit up. That’s their job.

Republicans make sure it stays that way.

This is how we got Trump, incidentally. I guess the 4th iteration of “Bush versus Clinton” aka “Here are your choices” finally broke the spell, or something. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:02 PM (OPIYi)

121 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (rbvCR)
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Talk is sheep.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 01:03 PM (aI58f)

122 118 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Yeah, that's an excellent plan. Where do you live?
Posted by: Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad at July 19, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)
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I know this the place to insert a joke about not having to buy them dinner first...but I'm not going to do it.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 01:03 PM (dIske)

123 Of course there will be an impact on labor markets if we follow MY plan, and get every last accursed fucking foreigner off our soil.

Everything in life is a tradeoff.

3am Thai food made by a welfare scammer who doesn't wash his hands, and delivered by an illiterate nascent jihadist who mowed down an Aztec vagrant while wrong-way driving moments before will become scarcer, too.

The benefits exceed the downside.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (BI5O2)

124 Every immigration reform Trump has undertaken will be undone/reversed by the DEMs on day one, next time they win.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (RCjYY)

125 I have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

Buy some goats

Yeah, that's an excellent plan. Where do you live?
Posted by: Muhammad Muhammad Muhammad at July 19, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

Run little goats! Run!

Posted by: Rabid Moroccan Donkey with a Ruptured Asshole at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (wOO3z)

126 have a first WP, my lawn hasn't been touched in weeks, can at least get string trimmer out now but Blues Brothers is on
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)
Buy some goats

Hello Code Enforcement? Yes, I would like to report my neighbor...he hasn't mowed in weeks and now he has goats in his yard. Yes, I think he's a conservative too.
He scares me and my 13 cats.

Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, Local democrat scold and busybody at July 19, 2026 01:05 PM (45BvE)

127 It's been successful in Minnesota with the Somalis
Bill Clinton started that

Carter's Cuban boat thugs

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:06 PM (3oLMy)

128 When the government wants something to happen, they can make it happen. Manhattan project. Apollo moon program. Hoover Dam, etc.

50 years of unfettered illegal alien migration doesn’t just happen. “There’s nothing we can do” is not an acceptable not believable answer. Somebody wants it this way.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:06 PM (OPIYi)

129 >>Republicans have plenty to answer for, it is by no means restricted to Democrats. As i’m fond of saying, Democrats fuck shit up. That’s their job.

No question that some of the GOP are in league with the left. But the entire Democrat Party is committed to illegals.

We just saw the governor and attorney general of Minnesota pardon a child rapist who just happens to be an illegal alien. In what universe does that make any sense at all?

Mark Warner was on one of the talking heads networks this morning lying that photo ID is required in VA. Shockingly, the talking head had to correct him because he also lives in VA. There is no legitimate reason to be against secure elections unless you plan to cheat. And they do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:08 PM (viF8m)

130 It should be obvious to everyone by now the only reason we have an illegal immigration problem is because Democrats need them here. They need them for census reasons and they need them for votes which they obviously do no matter how much Democrats lie.

If we want a permanent solution we have to find a way to stop allowing Democrats to gain power. Democrats are the root of the problem. They create the policies that create illegal immigration.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:56 PM (viF8m)

I think Elissa Slotkin recently said the quiet part out loud: The SAVE act can’t pass because Dems would never win another election!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:09 PM (ugElV)

131 >>> 51 The Americans who would otherwise be considered poor are paid to not work; they aren't getting up, leaving their Doritoes and watching the View to go to no damn job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:25 PM (3oLMy)

Then stop paying them. Work, or starve.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:28 PM (1z8ji)

Yes.

Posted by: the gods of the copybook headings at July 19, 2026 01:09 PM (vDZgA)

132 My yard needs mowing bad too. The neighbor was out with his tractor and finishing mower and all I saw was the mist coming off the back of the mower due to all the moisture on the grass.

Not my cup of tea when it's that wet.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:09 PM (jehhT)

133 >>I think Elissa Slotkin recently said the quiet part out loud: The SAVE act can’t pass because Dems would never win another election!

It's shocking when Democrats actually tell the truth.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:11 PM (viF8m)

134 The list CBD published the other day if enforced carte blanche would cause an abject failure to the economy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:13 PM (3oLMy)


Ending slavery was a vast hardship to the traditional agricultural economy of the South, much the way that ending sharecropping was intensely damaging to the economy of the south 100 years later.
These actions did not destroy the economy, even though they caused dislocations that had to be resolved. Those crops continued under new terms.

And yet, what killed King Cotton and King Sugar and King Indigo wasn't labor costs, but the financialization of the industries that depended on those crops that made it a good deal, financially for the financiers, to export them to China and similar places.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:11 PM (rbvCR)

135 Many do, and it's unrealistic to say otherwise. Yes, outright majorities take advantage of various types of welfare, but there are many who, let's be honest, work a lot harder than the native born would.

We should understand that getting rid of them will come with costs in terms of the expense and quality of labor.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Working 'hard' is not the same as labor productivity and lowly educated illegals are not particularly productive compared with other labor or mechanization. They come cheap, not necessarily productive.

That is one of the key flaws in Marxian analysis of economics--workers are not widgets and have varying degrees of productivity depending on a number of factors. Likewise, the decision to mechanize a labor task like digging a ditch, is often superior than hiring a bunch of illegals to do it. But, it takes an owner willing to invest in capital goods and a better quality laborer that won't tear up the machine nor do damage with it.

When illegals are cheap labor, the employer will choose the floating population of cheap labor because his competitors are doing the same thing so he faces a competitive issue and initial costs are higher.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:11 PM (E4rtv)

136 I was also present once for a combined ICE/state police action at an Asian massage parlor. I think it may have been in either ESL or Brooklyn, IL. 100% Korean hookers.

Brooklyn, IL is for people who can't afford East St. Louis, btw.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

137 They want themselves to be elected. This way they can push legislation (as they've been doing in Congress for years) to facilitate more illegals of their ilk to resettle here. Changing the entire demographics of cities, counties and states.

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That's what tore it for me. The moment I started seeing congresswhores with names like Omar and Tlaib, I shifted from anti-illegal sentiment to wanting all foreigners out.

This is MY country and I will bequeath it to MY kids, not your foreign whelps. GTFO.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (BI5O2)

138 I'm reminded of what the Operative said in the movie Serenity. "When your enemy goes to ground, leave them no ground to go to."

Employers, banks, places to rent. Go after anyone doing business with illegals. Soon the illegals will have to leave.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 19, 2026 01:14 PM (MsFGo)

139 Brooklyn, IL is for people who can't afford East St. Louis, btw.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

Damn, that's bad.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 19, 2026 01:14 PM (wOO3z)

140 Mark Warner was on one of the talking heads networks this morning lying that photo ID is required in VA. Shockingly, the talking head had to correct him because he also lives in VA. There is no legitimate reason to be against secure elections unless you plan to cheat. And they do.

Here is the ID rule for voting in VA:

Virginia requires voters to present non-photo identification (ID) while voting. Accepted forms of ID include Virginia driver's licenses, U.S. passports, student IDs, and copies of current utility bills or bank statements. For a list of all accepted forms of ID, see below.[1]

Voters without a required ID may sign an ID confirmation statement and vote a regular ballot.


Most people just pull out their DL, which has a photo.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:15 PM (Riz8t)

141 128 When the government wants something to happen, they can make it happen. Manhattan project. Apollo moon program. Hoover Dam, etc.

50 years of unfettered illegal alien migration doesn’t just happen. “There’s nothing we can do” is not an acceptable not believable answer. Somebody wants it this way.
Posted by: Common Tater

Absolutely true. Same thing with crime, not educating children, and other social policies.

But the influence on decisionmakers is to empire build and feather their own nests, not the primary goal of whatever institution is created to address a social problem. And it appears substituting contractors for the government employees is equal bad because the same influences without competition end up with the same dysfunction.

It is very difficult to set up competitive markets for discipline on social policy institutions because the entire incentive structure of government/contractors aims at dysfunction rather than solving the problem in a cost efficient manner.

Education is a perfect example--our version of Soviet agriculture with about the same results.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:16 PM (E4rtv)

142 >>> 112 > And the boat people who land in Calabria don't stick around to grow tomatoes. They go to the biggest cities in Europe and elect mayors.
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Not every illegal who comes to America is interested in handouts. Some have political aspirations that go beyond just having influence in elections.

They want themselves to be elected. This way they can push legislation (as they've been doing in Congress for years) to facilitate more illegals of their ilk to resettle here. Changing the entire demographics of cities, counties and states.

It's been successful in Minnesota with the Somalis and elsewhere with Mexicans. In Springfield, OH it was Haitians.

It's a fucking invasion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 12:57 PM (jehhT)

An invasion of non-uniformed combatants who are receiving direct assistance from some "citizens" of the US.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 19, 2026 01:16 PM (vDZgA)

143 Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:08 PM (viF8m)
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When it comes to election integrity and the investigative process to determine election exploitation, Mark Warner's response and behavior has been disproportionate and difficult to explain.

When Gabbard sent a team down to Georgia and refused to seek the Senate Select Intelligence Committee's approval, and brief him personally, he went apoplectic. When Trump announced his speech that occurred last Thursday, Warner was alll over the airwaves stating that it was theatrics and held no substance even before he knew what was being presented. Which begs the question, how deeply is the SSIC involved in these frauds, and in what capacity?

One would have to question whether Warner is personally involved in the foreign influence of elections, or perhaps orchestrating it.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (dIske)

144 >>Voters without a required ID may sign an ID confirmation statement and vote a regular ballot.

Can you buy a gun or a beer in VA without an ID if you just sign a form that will never be checked?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (viF8m)

145 Working 'hard' is not the same as labor productivity and lowly educated illegals are not particularly productive compared with other labor or mechanization. They come cheap, not necessarily productive.

That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (Riz8t)

146 140

Venice, IL is for people who can't afford Brooklyn.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:18 PM (RCjYY)

147 My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.

AND productive.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:18 PM (Riz8t)

148 124 Every immigration reform Trump has undertaken will be undone/reversed by the DEMs on day one, next time they win.
Posted by: mnw
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Blackpilling is never useful.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:19 PM (E4rtv)

149 >>One would have to question whether Warner is personally involved in the foreign influence of elections, or perhaps orchestrating it.

Right in the middle of the Russia collusion bullshit Warner was secretly communicating with Steele's lawyer who also just happens to be the lawyer for a Russian oligarch who is under US sanctions.

He's a dirtbag of epic proportion.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:20 PM (viF8m)

150 SiriusXM pricing is a farce.

My 2 year "promotional trial" that is running me $6.50 per month (full cost is about $28.00 per month) is expiring at the end of July. I called SiriusXM today to "cancel." Ten minutes later I had a new 1 year "promotion trial" that runs $7.50 per month, a reasonable price increase. I pushed for another 2 year deal but the AI agent was having none of that.

In other news, these AI customer service agents are uncannily good at what they are tasked with.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 19, 2026 01:23 PM (/eAef)

151 > Every immigration reform Trump has undertaken will be undone/reversed by the DEMs on day one, next time they win.
Posted by: mnw
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Blackpilling is never useful.
Posted by: The Beatles
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But telling the truth is. There's no persistent reason to think the left cannot steal another "election." Especially when we depend on the likes of the GOP to make sure our interests are looked after.

And, not to put too fine a point on this, but the judiciary, who's responsible for handing down not only punishments, but law and legal decisions, is firmly on the left's side.

Can it be fixed? Neutered? Rehabilitated?

I have no clue.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:25 PM (jehhT)

152 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.
Posted by: Archimedes

Mine is opposite of yours--restaurants have had a substantial decline in hygiene tied to casual standards of the third world, I see lazy construction workers that use nail guns like a machine gun rather than point and aiming, awful masonry skills where the mortar is smeared around and bricks/blocks not aligned properly, roofers leaving trash everywhere where they think it will be hidden and doing substandard work, and so on, etc.

They come cheap, not necessarily good. Specific individuals may vary as some of the most industrious illegals end up trying for owning a small business etc. but the standard issue is the same Third World mentality that they came from.

And that mentality more or less of this third world is to socialize costs and privatize any benefits. Low trust society.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:26 PM (E4rtv)

153 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (Riz8t)


That is nice. The extra profit for hiring someone who works extra hard for less pay is probably a good thing.

The extra costs that the employer spares himself is often taken up by tax supported social services, which is the exact example of outsourcing, or "socializing" the production costs for private profit.
Also the social cost of having a permanent underclass that is legally unable to advance, and reluctant to use law enforcement and the courts to protect themselves form predation by criminals.
And the fact that the underclass is also the section that tends to involve themselves directly or indirectly in crime out of solidarity of fear

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:26 PM (rbvCR)

154 “Fast, cheap, or good. Pick two”

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:27 PM (OPIYi)

155 Can it be fixed? Neutered? Rehabilitated?

I have no clue.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Telling the truth about current conditions is one thing, making predictions like Nostradamus is quite another. And the direction is predictable--when all you see and spout are negatives, that is as unrealistic as seeing everything positive.

Life is a struggle, we cannot recapture the past, we can only move forward to address the challenges then and do our best to fix what we can in the time we have allotted on this earth. Nothing is fixed, nothing is definite, and no victory nor defeat permanent.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:28 PM (E4rtv)

156 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.

Posted by: Archimedes
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And that fits the bill of the list of jobs, published by CBD or Throckmorton, that illegals have taken over. And one might say their work is productive because they grease the wheels, buss our tables, serve the food. I'm hungry.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:29 PM (3oLMy)

157 That is true, but for most people, the interactions with illegals in the work place involve construction, yard care, domestic work, and restaurants. My anecdotal experience is that they are very hard working.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:17 PM (Riz8t)

That is nice. The extra profit for hiring someone who works extra hard for less pay is probably a good thing.


Please point out where I said that. I'll wait.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t)

158 Businesses that conform to laws relating to illegal immigrants are at an obvious disadvantage to businesses that employ illegals.

I still think temporary work permits could be part of the solution to "jobs American won't do," i.e., slaughtering chickens.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (RCjYY)

159 "Jobs Americans won't do," and all the related economic arguments for unchecked mass immigration are extremely condescending - as if we didn't know some of these people work at some level of productivity.

But the even more condescending and gross part is the subject... we're being spoken to like children. "If you try and keep your country and culture, then you'll have to go to bed without your treats!"

I'm not Edmund Pevensie, and I won't sell out my people for a grubby little fistful of Turkish Delight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

160 *subtext, not subject

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

161
Posted by: The Beatles at July 19, 2026 01:26 PM (E4rtv)

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I could go on and on about this. 1) The Mexicans in my family have loooong kept their Mexican habits of fixing things with tape and string while the underlying structural problem worsens. I have examples.

2) Local Mexicans literally do what they call "trash work" where they get drunk af on a construction job. Just a way to make the day go faster.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (mmrXZ)

162 “They work hard!”

This isn’t relevant, actually. The problem is the financialization. The negative impacts of mass migration or cost shifted to the taxpayers, who get no benefits per se.

The businesses employing illegals get an advantage. Your hospital does not. Your cop shop does not.

Your schools do, kinda. Federal dollars for every ass in the seat.

Is the quality of the instruction any good? Nice new facilities and administrative buildings, but they can’t read or write or perform Arithmetic.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (OPIYi)

163 completely OT, but Gavin Newsom is getting really extra squirmy in his media presentations

https://tinyurl.com/4fdxesma

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (rbvCR)

164 Predictions are hard. Especially about the future.

Posted by: Yogi With His 10 WS Rings at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (JM9I6)

165 >>But telling the truth is. There's no persistent reason to think the left cannot steal another "election." Especially when we depend on the likes of the GOP to make sure our interests are looked after.

Why do you suppose they allowed Trump to win in 2024? Like him or hate him there has never been a bigger threat to their machine than Trump. And he crushed them in 2024.

Lots of election integrity stuff is going on including just yesterday an appeals court allowing the USPS to force tracking rules for every single mail in ballot. No more mass mail in voting. Kind of a big deal.

Doesn't mean they won't still try to cheat but it's not 2020 any longer. Things are improving even if not as fast as we want.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (viF8m)

166 I'm not Edmund Pevensie, and I won't sell out my people for a grubby little fistful of Turkish Delight.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

Great Chronicles of Narnia reference!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:33 PM (26GAh)

167
I still think temporary work permits could be part of the solution to "jobs American won't do," i.e., slaughtering chickens.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (RCjYY)


Many years back when the economy was on the skids my husband had to take a job at a poultry processing plant.. If you need the money you'll do it...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:33 PM (FtULh)

168 It would be nice if we had a hotline or internet link so that we could report these lawless companies anonymously. I know of two companies right now using illegal labor.

The companies need to pay. There is nothing like a good raid with your morning coffee.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (sYM3s)

169 166 I'm not Edmund Pevensie, and I won't sell out my people for a grubby little fistful of Turkish Delight.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 01:31 PM (BI5O2)

Great Chronicles of Narnia reference!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:33 PM (26GAh)


Yes Edmund was a rat

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (FtULh)

170 Denied!!!

Posted by: So Called Judge Boasberg at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (rf/GM)

171 @nypost
Tulsi Gabbard's brother accused of trying to lure children to Hawaii hotel room: police trib.al/IQo4lrT

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:35 PM (gKWVE)

172 I was also present once for a combined ICE/state police action at an Asian massage parlor. I think it may have been in either ESL or Brooklyn, IL. 100% Korean hookers.

...
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

Were you on the way in or on the way out ;p ?

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 19, 2026 01:36 PM (vSvIl)

173 Ryan Fox of NZ birdies the 18th to win the Open.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:36 PM (OXYE0)

174 Completely OT… but decades ago it was The British Open… Then The Open Championship…. Now it’s just The Open

Like Kiev to Kyiv and Turkey to Türkiye?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:36 PM (ugElV)

175 174 Completely OT… but decades ago it was The British Open… Then The Open Championship…. Now it’s just The Open

Golf is more boring than soccer....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:37 PM (FtULh)

176 Yes Edmund was a rat
Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:34 PM (FtULh)

IIRC, didn’t Edmund get transformed into some kind of dragon as a punishment for his gluttony in one of the books? Something like that….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 19, 2026 01:37 PM (ugElV)

177
Many years back when the economy was on the skids my husband had to take a job at a poultry processing plant.. If you need the money you'll do it...
Posted by: It's me donna

Heh, you seem way too classy to be the wife of a chicken-plucker!

Posted by: Assistant Neck-Wringer at July 19, 2026 01:38 PM (JM9I6)

178 What a finish at The BRITISH Open. Fox wins with a one stroke lead, -10, earned on the last putt of the tournament.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 19, 2026 01:38 PM (/eAef)

179 As Adam Carolla has said numerous times, you have a legally operated restaurant where the owner had to abide by 100 state and local regulations. Then right outside the restaurant, there’s an illegal selling tacos on the streets.

Nobody from the state or city or county who will fine the restaurant owner for the slightest infraction gives a fuck about the illegal.

Posted by: Insanity at July 19, 2026 01:39 PM (rf/GM)

180 167 Donna

I think the poultry processors would dispute that, that all it takes to hire legal workers is higher wages.

"legal workers" to include LAPRs, Lawful Alien Permanent Residents-- green card holders

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:39 PM (RCjYY)

181 @178 I was rooting for Young the American, but I like Fox, he plays fast

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 01:39 PM (OXYE0)

182 > Doesn't mean they won't still try to cheat but it's not 2020 any longer. Things are improving even if not as fast as we want.
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No, it isn't 2020. Things are improving. Yes. It does not preclude the left from trying, and succeeding in stealing another election.

I have hope that the information Trump released last week about China's influence in our elections, the danger e-voting and the hacked machines pose, and efforts to clean up the rolls has a positive effect.

Taking away the tools the left uses doesn't necessarily mean they'll quit. We should remain on guard.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (jehhT)

183 Please point out where I said that. I'll wait.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t)


You said they work extra hard, I surmised the reason the employers took them on is because they work cheaper.
That, in my experience with construction, farm work, housekeeping, yard work, and restaurants is exactly why the employers hire them in spite of having screwed up I9 and fake working docs.
They could hire better legals, but on the whole the margin of profit is so slender, especially in restaurants, they go with what they figure they can afford.
And the taxpayer subsidizes these industries through social safety nets.

It is still peonage. It is still peonage enforced by government regulation. We can live in this extremely inujst and morally questionable world for cheap lawncare and cheap french fries, or we can take away the laws and open the borders to everyone no matter what, or we can enforce the laws and accept that marginal businesses are going to either have to adapt or die

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (rbvCR)

184 I was also present once for a combined ICE/state police action at an Asian massage parlor. I think it may have been in either ESL or Brooklyn, IL. 100% Korean hookers....
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:13 PM (RCjYY)

Did it have a happy ending?

Posted by: Bulgogi at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (nPp6w)

185
I have hope that the information Trump released last week about China's influence in our elections, the danger e-voting and the hacked machines pose, and efforts to clean up the rolls has a positive effect.

Taking away the tools the left uses doesn't necessarily mean they'll quit. We should remain on guard.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2026 01:40 PM (jehhT)


Oh the talking heads today are out in force disputing that Trump said anything that showed there was any cheating

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 01:41 PM (FtULh)

186 The Stones have a new album out, Foreign Tongues. It is, checks notes, their best work since the last century.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 19, 2026 01:41 PM (/eAef)

187 159 "Jobs Americans won't do," and all the related economic arguments for unchecked mass immigration are extremely condescending - as if we didn't know some of these people work at some level of productivity.
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The jobs available to illegals you will be hard pressed to find an American, today, that will take that job. Stop paying people not to work and there will be an available work force to fill those vacancies created by sending illegals home.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:41 PM (3oLMy)

188 172 Methos

I got paid to be present.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (RCjYY)

189 I'm still waiting for some state to have a super partisan Secretary of State just certify made up precinct totals. In other words, make the local totals fully automated so that the local Precinct captain has no idea of the numbers, and limiting information to as few as possible. who are compromised in the "name of the common good."

Then instituting laws that disallow local precincts to do re-counts (oh, wait, Arizona already has that law in place...wink wink and Michigan just raised the roof on the potential for recounts).

IOW, no more of this complex, labor intensive vote fraud. Just have a handful of people certify made up totals.

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (dIske)

190 much the way that ending sharecropping was intensely damaging to the economy of the south 100 years later.

Ending slavery was an enormous disruption, yes (and the unpleasantness leading up to it didn't help).
My understanding is that it was the tractor which made sharecropping untenable, however. This helped the South's economy boom (other factors include airconditioning and the removal of nasty worms and bugs, and better roads). The Civil Rights movement happened because the rest of the US noticed at least a second world economy in the South and didn't think it had an excuse for running a third world feudal society.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (gKWVE)

191 >>Taking away the tools the left uses doesn't necessarily mean they'll quit. We should remain on guard.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

- Stuff Jefferson soft of said.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:42 PM (viF8m)

192 163 completely OT, but Gavin Newsom is getting really extra squirmy in his media presentations

https://tinyurl.com/4fdxesma
Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 01:32 PM (rbvCR)

ewww

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:43 PM (6wpGE)

193 LinusVanPelt, that was Eustace in "Dawn Treader". Edmund was still there but by then he'd had enough Narnia experience to know how things worked.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 01:44 PM (gKWVE)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 7-19-2026 [Sabrina Chase]

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Welcome to the Book Thread, Guest Poster edition! I will be your host as we explore all sorts of book-related topics. All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.) with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts. Now let us proceed to today's topic, which is ...

(Big) Beautiful Book Bindings

We are all about the contents of books here at the Book Thread, but a high-quality binding is the literary cherry on top. The photo above is one of the old books in my library, a first edition of the Hurst "Burnt Leather Classics" version of the works of Robert Burns, printed in 1904. (It took a bit of internet research to find out the date, as the fancy version had no published date inside.) Not only does it have gilt lettering on the cover, the edges of the pages are all gilt as well. In addition, the cover is soft leather, delicately embossed with daffodils, and slightly padded so it is very comfortable to hold. There used to be a silk bookmark ribbon bound in, but that fell to the ravages of time. A lot of thought clearly went into this design, to not only look good and to be functional but also elevate the book even more. (Apparently it was TOO fancy/expensive to produce, even for the luxury holiday gift market it was intended for, and in 1905 the standards were *koff* lowered and the gilt page edges and cover lettering vanished. But that made it possible for me to figure out my copy was one of the elite!)

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Now sometimes the attempts to pretty-up a book went a little far, what with all the enamel and gems and whatnot. Who wants to curl up with a lumpy book that weighs 15 pounds? And won't play nice with the other books on the shelf?

Anyone have any pretty treasures to brag about?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:52 AM




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1 up to chapter 362 of First Contact!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 08:55 AM (VyBeY)

2 Morning, Sabrina.

Howdy, Horde.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 08:55 AM (q3u5l)

3 *Tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on?

Posted by: First? at July 19, 2026 08:56 AM (2Ez/1)

4 other reading:

the Mr Gorzug series; pretty good stuff, lots of wisdom mixed in with the funny, recommended.

Zamyatin's "We", not sure why. Russian artists & poets sure got screwed by the October Revolution (which they supported), didn't they?

Appalachian Trail guidebooks - fantasy reading.

back later, maybe

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:00 AM (VyBeY)

5 Not much in the way of 'pretty' on this kid's shelves. But then except for encyclopedias I did most of my reading in battered library books and mass market paperbacks. By the time I started buying hardcovers, you really didn't see much in the stores except the current type trade volumes. Closest I get to ornate are a few volumes from Centipede Press.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:01 AM (q3u5l)

6 Can't think of a beautiful binding book in the collection, sorry.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:01 AM (VyBeY)

7 I tell you every thing is weird and confusing in "Central" land. Book thread posting at a strange time, the Perfessor not here. What kind of crazy place am I trapped in?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (1tpiU)

8 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (yTvNw)

9 I don't have anything to compare to Sabrina's find, that's for sure.

All my books are "functional" rather than "ornamental."

I do have a few books that have slightly better binding, but that's as far as it goes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:03 AM (FZ29D)

10 I have been a bad reader lately

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (Ia/+0)

11 I tell you every thing is weird and confusing in "Central" land. Book thread posting at a strange time, the Perfessor not here. What kind of crazy place am I trapped in?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (1tpiU)
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Are pants even required here?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (FZ29D)

12 Last weekend, a few hours after the book thread ended, I saw the distinctive smoke plume of a newly-started forest fire. And I saw it from my front door. (not really, I had to walk a block away before the trees/buildings gave me a clear view, but the point stands.) That got me thinking: If I needed to evacuate, what would come with me? The answer, at least as far as books go, is 'not much.' As much as I love the books that line my house, only a handful of them would qualify as 'irreplaceable.'

Fortunately, the fire hasn't really gotten any closer to town, and has received a robust response from the appropriate authorities. It's still burning, but it will make national news if it reaches a point where my home is in actual danger...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (3v7ra)

13
*looks at top picture*

Ah! The Necronomicon from the movie, "Evil Dead Burn".

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (iJfKG)

14
"Promise Me, America" is a book title bathed in arrogance.

I have a couple of side bets about content, no one would take on the mentions of Beau.

Posted by: Auspex at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (Y8DZL)

15 Morning, Book Folken,

I was just editing my latest short story: removing some of the "-ly" words, addressing my quirk of beginning a sentence with "But" or "And," etc. Time ran away, and here the Book Thread was.

Currently I'm reading Stephen Hunter's historical crime story I, Ripper. It features excerpts from a diary written by Jack the Ripper, alternating with a newspaper reporter's account from 1912 of how he gave the serial killer his name and tried to track him down in the London of 1888. Grand stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (wzUl9)

16 Saw a couple books at the convention this weekend but wasn't feeling rich enough to buy anything

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:05 AM (Ia/+0)

17 Nice book in that top picture, but don't forget about me. I was the actual star of the show.

Posted by: And Allen at July 19, 2026 09:05 AM (1tpiU)

18 I tell you every thing is weird and confusing in "Central" land. Book thread posting at a strange time, the Perfessor not here. What kind of crazy place am I trapped in?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026


***
The alternate timeline where Kirk did *not* save Edith Keeler?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:06 AM (wzUl9)

19 Hard to find a good leather bound Kindle these days.

Posted by: Or a phone app at July 19, 2026 09:06 AM (2Ez/1)

20 Although I've been reading regularly this past week, it's been slow going as each book is a bit of a doorstopper (over 600 or 700 pages each).

Those simply take time.

I'll have more to report in next week's Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:07 AM (FZ29D)

21 Skip, did you have a good time at the convention? Was there reenacting there? Miniatures? War Games?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:07 AM (4VH0B)

22 Good morning again morons and thanks Sabrina

Saw Tom Stoppard's Leopoldstadt in Glencoe Friday night.

It was magnificent.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (RIvkX)

23 I've usually found that the bindings from Library of America, Modern Library, and Everyman's Library hold up nicely. But these days a lot of hardcovers are harder to hold for very long (must go with being 29-and-then-some) and the print sizes used by the above-mentioned three publishers are harder on the eyes than they used to be (also a 29 thing). The kindle ain't pretty, but I'd be up a well-known smelly creek without it.

There are still a couple of bookcases of hardcovers here, though, because I liked the books and dammit I'm hanging on to them.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l)

24 Sorry about the non-traditional time. I am still figuring out the immense intricacies of the blog software. I may have forgotten the animal sacrifice part of the ritual ...

But now it is here and so are we! And the books.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (Y9Vvl)

25 Are pants even required here?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (FZ29D)

***
The alternate timeline where Kirk did *not* save Edith Keeler?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:06 AM (wzUl9)

( shaking ) I'm not sure.


Wait! Edith is dead?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (1tpiU)

26 There are still a couple of bookcases of hardcovers here, though, because I liked the books and dammit I'm hanging on to them.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l)
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Preach it, brother!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (FZ29D)

27 19 Hard to find a good leather bound Kindle these days.


You'd think so, but no.

https://tinyurl.com/9ctaay8f

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM (Riz8t)

28 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Sabrina, that is a beautiful binding, and fitting for a book of poetry.

I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:12 AM (h7ZuX)

29 Hey, I was good enough for your 4th grade English Grammar book.

Posted by: Brown paper grocery bag at July 19, 2026 09:12 AM (2Ez/1)

30 I finally finished reading "The Silmarillion." It was a slog. It's written with a deliberately arcane cadence, and it's just a summary of events, so there's usually not much of a 'story' to sink your teeth into. All too often it felt like the book was just throwing funny and way-too-similar names at me...

But I did enjoy the last couple chapters! The ones that had recognizable places and characters, that led into the events of Lord of the Rings. Those chapters I may re-read sometime. But the first two thirds...Now I can say that I read it, but I'm not likely to read it again.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:13 AM (3v7ra)

31 Continuing my boycott of Christopher Nolan's "Odyssey," last week I finished the late, great Dan Simmons' "Ilium" and am now reading the follow-up "Olympos." I have enjoyed them both immensely, they being a science-fictioning of the story of the Siege of Troy and surrounding events.

Next up will be "Cur Deus Verba," or "How the Word Became Words," by Jeremy Holmes. An explanation of how Christ's teachings became the Bible, I believe. Should he an interesting read.

Good morning, Booklings.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM (/RHNq)

32 27 19 Hard to find a good leather bound Kindle these days.


You'd think so, but no.

https://tinyurl.com/9ctaay8f
Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 09:11 AM
+++++
Is it rich Corinthian?

Posted by: Ricardo at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM (2Ez/1)

33 Hey, I was good enough for your 4th grade English Grammar book.
Posted by: Brown paper grocery bag at July 19, 2026


***
And for years after that. Once I did have some Man From U.N.C.L.E. book covers. They didn't last anywhere near as long as a grocery store paper bag.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:16 AM (wzUl9)

34 Would they bother to cover the 4th grade grammar books now? I don't recall seeing any brown paper grocery bags for quite a while.

Now THOSE were ornamental.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:16 AM (q3u5l)

35 If I needed to evacuate, what would come with me? The answer, at least as far as books go, is 'not much.' As much as I love the books that line my house, only a handful of them would qualify as 'irreplaceable.'
Posted by: Castle Guy

Interesting. I also only have one or two; One, a child's picture book of fables that was a present to my Mom from my Grandparents. And later, Mom read to me. It has absolutely stunning illustrations with beautiful color.

The other is a Journal kept by a Pennsylvania Dutch Pastor whom traveled between churches in the early 1800's. It is written in High German and describes his days and travels. He mentions certain locations that are very near my old family farm. I have two copies - one's cover is in tatters - broken, falling apart and degrading into dust. The other has a more modern cover. Probably late 1930's.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 09:16 AM (IUQak)

36 I will say that my set of the Britannica from 1984, bound in leather and with gold stamping on the spine, is a beautiful thing. And yes, I still do consult them from time to time, when my favorite search engine's AI delivers nothing -- or nothing but nonsense.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (wzUl9)

37 >>>I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (3oLMy)

38 Yay Book Thread!

Chateau Lloyd is host to many books with interesting and ornate covers, particularly Tolkien editions whose entire purpose is to sit there on the shelf and look pretty. We have paperbacks for actually reading, some of which have been badly abused by time.

I do think it's interesting that the phrase "can't judge a book by its cover" exists because most of the time, that is the author/publisher's goal. Stencil font with martial title: about war.

Script with Fabio holding a chick? Romance.

And of course the title: "The Sword of Length And Girth: A Tale of Faries Queers and Thorns Book 5" tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (ZOv7s)

39 Avi Feiglin, the son of Israeli politician Moshe Feiglin, runs a custom binding business. He learned the trade from his late grandfather, Rabbi Chayim Spring.

Gallery:

https://tinyurl.com/y3e4ztbc

YT video (Hebrew but you can get the translation):

https://youtu.be/UCfFNw_fxPo

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (w2sCY)

40 Tonypete, where did you come across that journal?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:20 AM (4VH0B)

41 Not ostentatiously pretty, but there are a few books on my shelf that are just a joy to hold and to read because they are so well designed, both for having in your hand and reading from page to page. My copy of A.S. Byatt’s The Djinn in the Nightingale’s Eye (1996) comes to mind, and the much older “Black’s Readers Service” copy of The Works of H. Rider Haggard that includes “Cleopatra”.

They’re not overly engineered, they’re perfectly engineered.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 19, 2026 09:21 AM (sk9DV)

42 I try to be selective about buying well made books. Emphasis on 'try'. Sabrina is right. I will spend money on a beautiful presentation of a book that has meaning to me. The last few years I've picked up hardcover, often slip cased editions of:
- Treasure Island and Kidnapped
- The complete poetry of JRR Tolkien
- the Wingfeather series
- Dracula and other stories by Stoker
- the 3 volume prose Faerie Queene (which is magnificent)
- several others

My LOTR paperbacks from the 60s have long since disintegrated to be replaced by a few hardcover editions.

Part of the rationale for getting these better made editions is the sheer physical pleasure of reading from them. Part is these are books I hope to pass along to the next generations.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:22 AM (yTvNw)

43 On my TBR pile: We Sold Our Souls, a fantasy novel by Grady Hendrix, whose Satan Loves You I raved about last week; and two Stephen Hunters. G-Man features his long-running hero Bob Lee Swagger, with flashbacks to his father Charles's time with the FBI during the Depression.

The other, a WWII novel, is called Basil's War, featuring one Basil St. Florian, an accomplished spy in the British Army who goes undercover in Nazi-occupied France.

Odd, but my local suburban library had the Hunters under General Fiction instead of Mystery. I'd think the G-Man novel would qualify under mystery, or crime at least.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (wzUl9)

44 I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (3oLMy)
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What if you've been eating Cheetos?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (FZ29D)

45 Next up will be "Cur Deus Verba," or "How the Word Became Words," by Jeremy Holmes. An explanation of how Christ's teachings became the Bible, I believe. Should he an interesting read.

Good morning, Booklings.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM
*******

https://youtu.be/Xz_QEYwerkw

Posted by: Come and See at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (2Ez/1)

46 Last week, I read a graphic novel adaptation of "The Three Musketeers." This adaptation actually followed pretty closely to the original novel; D'Artagnan hired a servant, he took part in the siege of a castle like an actual soldier, and he didn't have a duel-to-the-death with that scarred (but not one-eyed) agent of Richelieu. The fidelity was refreshing. But it did drive home why so many adaptations change the story. This book in particular really benefits from being cleaned up. There were plot cul-de-sacs that didn't add much to the story, most of the characters could have acted a bit more nobly, and that ending...The climax of the book was 6 men condemning Milady DeWinter in an impromptu trial. Granted, Milady was evil and richly deserved her fate, but...The trial of a captured woman is not a worthy climax in a story about swashbuckling swordsmen! Changing the story to feature a duel-to-the-death with an enemy agent only feels natural...

But at least the art was good. Not excellent, but good. That alone puts this book above several other adaptations that were part of the same comic line.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (3v7ra)

47 I have no fancy books.

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 09:24 AM (1tpiU)

48 That got me thinking: If I needed to evacuate, what would come with me? The answer, at least as far as books go, is 'not much.' As much as I love the books that line my house, only a handful of them would qualify as 'irreplaceable.'

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:04 AM (3v7ra)
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My father inherited the love letters of his grandparents and typed them up and had them published in a hardcover with photos in the 1980s. Only perhaps a half-dozen copies exist.

I have the digital files and will at some point publish them for a larger audience. They are very interesting as they wrote often and it's an intimate portrait of acquaintances becoming friends and then engaged and finally married, only to be separated by the Great War. The stuff of epic romance, really, all tucked away in an attic for 50 years.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

49 I'm reading _The Sea Wolf_ by Jack London, but I confess it isn't really gripping me. The narrator is a whiner, and Captain Wolf Larsen is a bastard and a psychopath. Weirdly, he keeps mouthing Socialist tomfoolery which sounds like the sort of thing Jack London would endorse. I'm worried that the book will end with the whiny narrator realizing that socialist psychopaths are really the good guys.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (78a2H)

50 Biden's Dog, thanks for the link to Spring Bindery. Those are amazing books! I have never seen designs in gilt edges before. Beautiful!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (k+oif)

51 Journeys Through Bookland, the 192x printing had been on my shelf since I was knee-high to an ant, but only the first eight volumes. Definitely my favorite books growing up. Earlier this year, I discovered a full set, basically unread/mint, printed in 1910: black leather, gilt edges, beautiful.

If there is a fire, I will probably be in the basement, opening the window to start hucking these books out first.

Posted by: KnownIssue at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (5bj1g)

52 29 Hey, I was good enough for your 4th grade English Grammar book.
Posted by: Brown paper grocery bag at July 19, 2026 09:12 AM

Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: Heavy Duty Reynolds Wrap at July 19, 2026 09:27 AM (2Ez/1)

53 I read Pendergast: The Beginning, by Preston & Child.

I started Relic a couple of years ago, and didn't get interested, but I saw this and decided to give it a go. I really got interested, and now it's finished, and I want to read Relic, and the waitlist is months long on Libby, and it's not on Hoopla, and my library doesn't have a copy.

But I'm in that mood now, and nothing else is grabbing my attention. I've started and abandoned several other books after I finished Pendergast, and I only want Pendergast now!!

This is a FWP, isn't it?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:27 AM (h7ZuX)

54
Good morning again morons and thanks Sabrina

Saw Tom Stoppard's Leopoldstadt in Glencoe Friday night.

It was magnificent.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:08 AM (RIvkX)


We were in London last week and wanted to see a West End show.

Tom Stoppard's "Arcadia" was playing there, which I would've loved to have seen, buuut that's not really the lovely and delightful Mrs naturalfake's kind of thing, so-

We went to see the all-singin', all-dancin' revival of the music "Oliver!'.

"Oliver!" is very much a product of it's time. As a retelling of "Oliver Twist" it kinda just breezes through the highlights, but is just loaded with great tunes. It really had no ambition to do anything more than entertain you and send you into the night singing and tapping your toes.

Mission accomplished.
Loaded with the usual great English stage actors as well.

Check it out if you have the opportunity.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (iJfKG)

55 Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:20 AM
Besides maybe my best game showing, wore my Russian shako as a 1812 musketeer so people seem to like to come up and ask about it. Lots of conversations on game rules and just talking to other people interested in history.
Hopefully back to Fall In in November

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (Ia/+0)

56 Book adjacent: for her birthday, I bought the complete series of "Justified" for my youngest. We owned the first season, and she became addicted, and now we're binge-watching it.

I remember my mother being a huge fan of Elmore Leonard, and while this has me interested in his books, I also feel that the outstanding cast is integral to the experience, and so I'm holding back.

Well, that and the fact that I have lots of other stuff that I want to get through first, like City of God and the rest of the Graham Greene stuff I bought.

My bedtime book is Decisive Battles of the American Revolution, a trade paperback saved from oblivion because I used the margins for an amusing flip book in middle school. It's a good book on the merits, though. Can't recall the author and the cat will not be moved, so here I am.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (ZOv7s)

57 Regarding the original post; there are no fancy covers on my shelf. Nothing with any 3-d elements like the second image. A trio of faux-leather bound books, but the rest are just typical hardcovers or paperbacks. And two books in a slipcase, which I really don't care about...

The only covers that really stand out are some custom-bound-comic hardcovers; they have art printed on the covers, which I put together in photoshop! One of the perks of commissioning a custom-bound book...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 09:29 AM (3v7ra)

58 37 >>>I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.



The saddest thing in The Name of the Rose was the burning of the library.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 19, 2026 09:30 AM (Riz8t)

59 @44 LOL, all of it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:30 AM (h7ZuX)

60 I have a large decorated white bound Bible I got for Christmas when I was in my 20's from my parents. I've never displayed it but it's nice to have.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 09:30 AM (tZeAA)

61 Still enjoying CJ Box's Joe Pickett series.
Thanks to the book threadist who recommended it.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 09:31 AM (2Ez/1)

62 AN ACTUAL BOOK REVIEW:

I recently finished reading "The Case for Colonialism" by political scientist Bruce Gilley. Published a few years ago, it is an expanded book version of his highly controversial 2017 academic article of the same name.

The author challenges the prevailing progressive consensus that mid-19th and 20th century Western colonialism (primarily British, French, German, Belgian, Dutch, and Portuguese) was an unqualified evil. He argues that many or most episodes of such colonialism delivered substantial net benefits to colonized peoples through expanded education, improved public health, abolition of slavery and other harmful practices, better administration, infrastructure, widened economic opportunities, and more rational governance.

(cont.)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 09:32 AM (w2sCY)

63 (cont.)

The book contends that it's actually anti-colonialism that has proven to be the greater threat to human rights and development in the 20th century. Gilley documents how premature decolonization and the rejection of colonial institutions by nationalist elites often led to economic decline, authoritarianism, corruption, and suffering in many post-colonial states. Gilley calls for a rethinking of colonial history based on empirical evidence rather than ideology, emphasizing a "civilizing mission" grounded in universal values.

That's not gonna happen, at least not right now.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 09:32 AM (w2sCY)

64 The best book cover I've got is my h.s. yearbook. I designed it. I managed to make it quite Soviet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:32 AM (RIvkX)

65 I have a few very old books, but none with beautiful binding. Pretty sure I've got a couple of those green arsenic-infused ones, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Don't lick your fingers as you turn the pages.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 09:18 AM (3oLMy)
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What if you've been eating Cheetos?


Cheetohs, for a few moments, distracts the villein from fear. But law is imposed by fear, whose true name is fear of God.

Posted by: Jorge of Burgos at July 19, 2026 09:33 AM (Riz8t)

66 Stephen Hunter
Quit reading him after he inserted gratuitous gayness in a story.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 19, 2026 09:33 AM (0ztm9)

67 I'm reading _The Sea Wolf_ by Jack London, but I confess it isn't really gripping me. The narrator is a whiner, and Captain Wolf Larsen is a bastard and a psychopath. Weirdly, he keeps mouthing Socialist tomfoolery which sounds like the sort of thing Jack London would endorse. I'm worried that the book will end with the whiny narrator realizing that socialist psychopaths are really the good guys.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026


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Never read it; in fact I've read little of London aside from White Fang and Call of the Wild. And the latter was in the Whitman Young Readers edition, so it was probably edited. I remember the film version with Edward G. Robinson as Larsen, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:33 AM (wzUl9)

68 When a story is narrated by a dog, it has to be good. It is even better when the dog and his master are collecting various items to make magic charms. Roger Zelazny brings us the story of Snuff the dog in A Night in the Lonesome October.

Snuff is a watchdog. He watches things for Jack, like the things trapped in the mirror, and the thing in the wardrobe, and he keeps an eye out for Jack, since Jack is cursed. Jack only goes out by night, looking for certain items found in reasonably fresh graves, or in arcane gardens, as they are necessary ingredients for the charms Jack is working on.

As the story progresses, we meet other similar pairs, each an animal with their human, some working on charms to protect the world, and some working towards the opposite goal. Each animal is also trying to learn where and how this game is to be played out, and which teams will be on which side, for as the month of October comes to an end, they will all be in one location, where (and when) the portal can be opened, and the fate of the world will be at stake. As the story reaches its climax, the reader may be surprised as to which teams will be on which side on the thirty-first of October.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 09:34 AM (0U5gm)

69 Oliver: I recall the film version was well-cast, with Shani Wallis (whatever happened to her?) and Oliver Reed as a brutal Bill Sykes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:35 AM (wzUl9)

70 In line with this topic, the quality of most of the hardcover Rabbit Room Press books is special. The thought and care they put into the books they produce is obvious. I first noticed when I got a copy of "Lost Tales of Sir Galahad". Leather bound, embossed cover, quality paper, and print that doesn't require a magnifying glass. The ongoing Arthuriad by Malcolm Guite is similar. Their children's series, The Wilderking, has a hardcover edition along with the paperbacks.

As in my comment above, it's a combination of pleasure in handling, contents that are special and worth preserving, and sturdy enough to survive generations of reading.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:35 AM (yTvNw)

71 I started Relic a couple of years ago, and didn't get interested, but I saw this and decided to give it a go. I really got interested, and now it's finished, and I want to read Relic, and the waitlist is months long on Libby, and it's not on Hoopla, and my library doesn't have a copy.

This is a FWP, isn't it?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:27 AM (h7ZuX)
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Being the first book in the series, Relic does have a bit of "early installment weirdness."

I thought it was pretty good overall though, and Reliquary, the immediate sequel was even better.

Like many long-running series, it doesn't quite hit its stride until book 3 or 4.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:36 AM (FZ29D)

72 Got dragged to the Odyssey yesterday. It's not bad, but I'm probably not going to see it again.

The diversity-hire casting is basically forced on the moviemakers now by the Oscars requirements, so I shrug and lump it in with the fact that they're speaking English and have all their teeth.

One thing which saddens me is how all movies nowadays apparently have to require the audience to take sides. The response to the criticism "I thought some of the casting was screwy" should be "Well, I liked it," rather than "You're evil."

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 09:37 AM (78a2H)

73 When a story is narrated by a dog, it has to be good. It is even better when the dog and his master are collecting various items to make magic charms. Roger Zelazny brings us the story of Snuff the dog in A Night in the Lonesome October. . . .

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026


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I can't find much Zelazny at my local library. This book sounds particularly good.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

74 Beautiful books up there!

I have one old book that I received as a Christmas present this year: my grandfather's bible. Worth a lot - to me!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (X8xt3)

75 Not ostentatiously pretty, but there are a few books on my shelf that are just a joy to hold and to read because they are so well designed, both for having in your hand and reading from page to page.
___________

For this reason, I go out of my way to get early/mid century Modern Library editions. Perfect size and can occasionally find a leather bound.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (XvL8K)

76 I'm a jewelry fan, and jewelry books are always big and beautiful.

But my favorite is easily a set of Shakespeare, missing one book. They were brought by covered wagon to South Dakota by my sodbuster ancestors. No year given, because they're pre copyright.

Posted by: Wenda at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (u84c/)

77 I have the digital files and will at some point publish them for a larger audience. They are very interesting as they wrote often and it's an intimate portrait of acquaintances becoming friends and then engaged and finally married, only to be separated by the Great War. The stuff of epic romance, really, all tucked away in an attic for 50 years.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

I would read that. I'd want to see the original handwritten letters, too, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (h7ZuX)

78 TecumsehTea - one was my grandfathers' and another was given to me by one of my mom's cousins.

Now I have to locate them and caress them.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 09:40 AM (IUQak)

79 I recently finished reading "The Case for Colonialism" by political scientist Bruce Gilley. Published a few years ago, it is an expanded book version of his highly controversial 2017 academic article of the same name.
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Thomas Sowell is making some of the same points in Wealth, Poverty, and Politics, the importance of culture and cultural transmission in economic outcomes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 09:40 AM (RIvkX)

80 Be sure to read “There Will Come Soft Rains” by Ray Bradbury on August 4.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 09:41 AM (8l6/L)

81 I went into a big chain book store for the first time in a long time today.

They had a cafe, a game section, a gift section, and a toy section. It was sort of like being at the mall in the old days when you might have a Walden Books near the food court or at least an Orange Julius.

But...

I looked through the SF and Fantasy section and it was full of hacks and authors I've never heard of and reading the back covers the descriptions didn't sound promising.

So I went over to the library instead and got some Leiber and Saberhagen books instead.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:41 AM (sKqQm)

82 I have a very old book that guess its a reader teaching, it has text in both English and German. Don't remkember exactly when it was written other than 1800s.
Thinking to donate it to historical society as its should be preserved more than a book that will just be wasted sgfter I am gone

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:41 AM (Ia/+0)

83 Robert Burns died 21 July 1796, how old is that book?

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 09:42 AM (LHPAg)

84 Not ostentatiously pretty, but there are a few books on my shelf that are just a joy to hold and to read because they are so well designed, both for having in your hand and reading from page to page.
___________

For this reason, I go out of my way to get early/mid century Modern Library editions. Perfect size and can occasionally find a leather bound.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 19, 2026


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I have two on my shelf, Three Famous Murder Novels edited by Bennett Cerf, and Fourteen Great Detective Stories edited by Vincent Starrett. Bought them both from a local (and now defunct) bookseller when I was about fifteen. TFMN contains Before the Fact, that great portrait of a woman's marriage to a charming sociopath; the short stories volume has stuff all the way from Poe and Melville Davisson Post through Rex Stout, Ellery Queen, and even Cornell Woolrich.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:42 AM (wzUl9)

85 "the late, great Dan Simmons' "Ilium" and am now reading the follow-up "Olympos."
Posted by: Sharkman at July 19, 2026 09:15 AM (/RHNq)

Very much my favorite pair of books by Dan Simmons.


Posted by: 13times at July 19, 2026 09:43 AM (fnZRl)

86 55>>>Skip

Sounds like a lot of fun for you. It's nice to get away and have downtime doing something we enjoy.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:43 AM (4VH0B)

87
So I went over to the library instead and got some Leiber and Saberhagen books instead.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026


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Much better choices. Saberhagen's Empire of the East and his Books of Swords series are superior stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:44 AM (wzUl9)

88 LEBENSBILD aus dem Pennsylvanisch-Deutschen Predigerstand

Allentown, Pa. 1906.

My German fluency, which really never was, has entirely left me so now I have to kick my way through the journal slowly. But I wouldn't say painfully.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 09:44 AM (IUQak)

89
Half-Price Books used to be a great place to shop for older books, when it was run by hippies.

I was able to buy some first printings from favorite authors like Peter DeVries, Tom Sharpe, and Folio Society reprintings of Evelyn Waugh, PG Wodehouse and many others for a pittance.

In any event, they must've gotten acquired and now mostly carry Best-Sellers from the last ten years or so.

If you find anything neat, you usually have to wangle pretty hard with them to get a decent price. Booo!

The biggest surprises for me was finding a complete set of Henry Williamson's "Chronicle of Ancient Sunlight", which was one of the 99 Great novels of the 20th Century super cheap.

And a complete Set of "The Burton Holmes Lectures" Burton Holmes was a guy who travelled to the "exotic" countries way back when and then went around the country giving lectures long with a slideshow. Great photos and interesting if not politically correct viewpoints. Also dirt cheap.



Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (iJfKG)

90 My German fluency, which really never was, has entirely left me so now I have to kick my way through the journal slowly. But I wouldn't say painfully.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026


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The verb is often hiding at the end of the sentence.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (wzUl9)

91 I recently finished reading "The Case for Colonialism" by political scientist Bruce Gilley. Published a few years ago, it is an expanded book version of his highly controversial 2017 academic article of the same name.

Colonialism was a mixed bag for the colonized. The first point, and I find leftwingers pretty much always ignore this, is that it replaced one form of non representative government with another.

So, what is better local, primitive despots or distant advanced ones? Especially for societies that were still stuck in the tribal stage?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (sKqQm)

92 I would read that. I'd want to see the original handwritten letters, too, though.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:38 AM (h7ZuX)
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My father retains the letters and I would include some photos of them as well.

What's really struck me is how "modern" their language becomes after they get married. At first it is very polite and then friendly, but after he's deployed to France, they speak pretty openly about sex and missing each other. He longs for "the twins" and she misses "Johnny."

That was why my father only made a handful of copies, handed out only to the older family members. His mother and her siblings did not approve of sharing that with the general public or the grandkids. I was the only great-grandkid to get a copy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

93 Colonialism?

I still pronounce that nation with Kilimanjaro in it as "Keen-ya," as the British did, instead of "Kenn-ya." I must be an unreconstructed colonialist.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:47 AM (wzUl9)

94 Ay-yi-yi -- this is not how I wanted to start my latest year of life.

Oh, well.

I finished "Von Ryan's Express" by David Westheimer. It did involve a train, one that was to take nearly 1,000 men from an abandoned POW camp in Italy into Germany.

Col. Joseph Ryan, the senior POW officer -- derogatorily known to his charges as "Von Ryan" because he's a hardcase -- plans an escape that will require him to take over the train. His efforts make a gripping tale.

I wonder about the authenticity of the dialogue, however. The No. 2 POW leader, who was supplanted by Ryan because of rank, is British, and he seems to mention "Jerry" every 10 words. I know stereotypes have some basis in fact, but this is a bit much. On the other hand, I've learned a new term for a woman -- "frippet."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (q9vMC)

95 Much better choices. Saberhagen's Empire of the East and his Books of Swords series are superior stuff.

And interestingly that is what I got...

As an aside with Empire of the East I mentioned to the yutes I know sometimes that when I was their age we had the possibility of a REAL apocalypse - a nuclear WWIII with the Soviets. You have anxiety because global warming might raise global temperatures in a century or something? What if you woke up tomorrow and it was 1M degrees in your local city center?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (sKqQm)

96 The verb is often hiding at the end of the sentence.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (wzUl9)

Quid?

Posted by: LINGUAM LATINAM at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (1tpiU)

97 Being the first book in the series, Relic does have a bit of "early installment weirdness."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 09:36 AM (FZ29D)

Yeah, it was probably that. The epilogue of Pendergast: The Beginning is an opening to Relic. So now I'm hooked in.

My mental image of Pendergast is that appraiser of Civil War artifacts on Antiques Roadshow, Rafael something. I know Pendergast is thin, and Rafael isn't, but it's my image and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 09:49 AM (h7ZuX)

98 What's really struck me is how "modern" their language becomes after they get married. At first it is very polite and then friendly, but after he's deployed to France, they speak pretty openly about sex and missing each other. He longs for "the twins" and she misses "Johnny." . . .

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026


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At one point Mrs. Wolfus No. 2-to-be and I wrote some love letters to each other. Our language was hardly so, uh, circumspect.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:49 AM (wzUl9)

99 The Burns book is from 1904. It isn't the oldest book I have; that honor belongs to a copy of Jerusalem Delivered a poem by Torquato Tasso, printed in 1770. The cover, alas, is gone (so not suitable for this post) but the paper is amazing. Old linen paper, yes, made from linen fabric scraps. That's why there used to be the "rag and bone men" that went door to door collecting fabric scraps for papermakers. It's more expensive but more durable. And it feels less brittle to the fingers when reading.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 09:50 AM (k+oif)

100 Reminds me. One of my older brothers graduated from a small liberal arts college in the midwest. In the 1970s The college yearbook has lots photographs of the residents of thr various dorms. Animal House wasn’t too far off. They seemed especially seemed proud of their Bongs, to a man. Artfully displayed album covers with Zig-Zag rolling papers and seedy Marihuana.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 09:50 AM (LSh5J)

101
I finished "Von Ryan's Express" by David Westheimer. It did involve a train, one that was to take nearly 1,000 men from an abandoned POW camp in Italy into Germany.

Col. Joseph Ryan, the senior POW officer -- derogatorily known to his charges as "Von Ryan" because he's a hardcase -- plans an escape that will require him to take over the train. His efforts make a gripping tale.

I wonder about the authenticity of the dialogue, however. The No. 2 POW leader, who was supplanted by Ryan because of rank, is British, and he seems to mention "Jerry" every 10 words. I know stereotypes have some basis in fact, but this is a bit much. On the other hand, I've learned a new term for a woman -- "frippet."
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026


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I first read VRE when I was in high school, and loved it. Never had I seen the Frank Sinatra film, though, until about two months ago. Verdict: Skip it, stick with the novel.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:51 AM (wzUl9)

102 Still not doing much in the way of Big Serious books this past week. (Sorry, Fyodor.) Revisited Don Robertson's novel Make a Wish. Went through a semi-abandoned project of my own and figured maybe, just maybe, I can do something with it after all. Decided the other day that it had been too long since I read Bradbury and started Fahrenheit 451 yesterday evening.

Focused? Me? Smile when you say that.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:51 AM (q3u5l)

103 And though there only occasionally, at work are on a town public library job. It was the local firehouse and getting turned ito library. So hopefully someday if not a picture from me will get one somehow for this very thread

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 09:52 AM (Ia/+0)

104 ... Sea Wolf_ by Jack London, but I confess it isn't really gripping me. The narrator is a whiner, and Captain Wolf Larsen is a bastard and a psychopath.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026

The first half of the book differs significantly from the second half of the book. I won't say how, but was very disappointed.

Posted by: 13times at July 19, 2026 09:52 AM (fnZRl)

105 18-1,

Your library still had Leiber and Saberhagen? Count your blessings.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:54 AM (q3u5l)

106 About the best and most ornate books that I have are a collection of Folio editions - which I bought in the 1980s when the most expensive releases were +/-$100. I also have a 1920 edition of "Old French Fairy Tales" by the Comptesse de Segur and illustrated by Virginia Frances Sterrett. It was originally a Christmas present to a little boy named Markie, who was the youngest son of the wealthy family that my maternal grandfather worked for. He was an invalid, and died young - my mother was his age, and often brought to their enormous Pasadena mansion to play with him, as he could not go to school, or out much at all. The book eventually came to me, and a friend of a friend who was into hobby bookbinding redid the spine and signature stitching. The illustrations are lovely and very 1920 Erte style.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 19, 2026 09:54 AM (Ew3fm)

107 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (u82oZ)

108 The Young Washington movie frequently mentions his letter writing.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (2Ez/1)

109 I'd read Von Ryan's Express in high school as well, after seeing the Sinatra picture.

Yes, the book's better. But the flick's worth a watch just for Trevor Howard.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (q3u5l)

110 Not as fancy as some hardcover editions but I like what is called 'flexibound' books. These are hardcover but flexible. Penguin Clothbound Classics is a good example. My favorite modern version of Canterbury Tales from Nevil Coghill is one. My reading copy of LOTR is the same approach but leather, like some Bibles, instead of cloth. The flexibound style also makes it easy to open the book completely flat, adding to the comfort.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (yTvNw)

111 Speaking of Germans, I ran across this quote from a German author/jurist named Ernst-Wolfgang Bockenforde: "The liberal secular state lives on premises that it cannot itself guarantee"

He was both a Catholic and a Social Democrat and apparently he sees the problem with the latter.

And the left has yet to solve this problem as we see with the Somali Learing centers here in the US...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (sKqQm)

112 I don't have a lot of very old books, but I do have a framed map pulled from an 1855 atlas. It is entitled "British, Russian, and Danish possessions in North America." It shows Russian Alaska, Greenland, and the 30 odd provinces that Canada had at the time, like Churchill and Abitibi.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (0U5gm)

113 Good morning, Sabrina and Horde.

I have an entire bookcase of olde tomes, some inherited from my father, most bought by me because I got bit by the antiquarian bug early. My prize find as a teen was a big edition of "Paradise Lost" with Doré illustrations on almost every other page. It's not that difficult to find, but it blew me away and spoiled me for drab paperback versions of literature. Many 19th Century novels with gilt edging and engravings, and works by Victorian explorers with maps and illustrations.

On the cheesier end of vintage reads, I love old SF books with lurid covers. And that pulpy smell means a quality experience!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 09:58 AM (kpS4V)

114 How about culture being downstream of genetics which is downstream of environment?
Are there any works on culture as an expression of genetics?

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 09:58 AM (T8bqm)

115 Speaking of Von Ryan's Express, its author, David Westheimer, a few years earlier wrote an adaptation of JP Miller's teleplay/screenplay for Days of Wine and Roses. It is excellent. Even if you didn't know about or had never seen the movie, the novel adaptation is powerful and effective.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 09:59 AM (wzUl9)

116 >>>78 Tonypete
Those are priceless! So cool.

MrTea's grandfather served, in WWI. He wrote home a lot and his mother saved all the letters. This side of DH family is very into ancestry/genealogy and family history. The letters somehow got to a professor in SD, who turned them into a book and also speaks about them, and the war. I keep meaning to buy a copy and then share about it here but I never seem to get around to it. I think some readers here would be interested in it, too.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 09:59 AM (4VH0B)

117 It shows Russian Alaska, Greenland, and the 30 odd provinces that Canada had at the time, like Churchill and Abitibi.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 09:57 AM (0U5gm)
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Cooool!

I need to look this up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (kpS4V)

118 I'd read Von Ryan's Express in high school as well, after seeing the Sinatra picture.

Yes, the book's better. But the flick's worth a watch just for Trevor Howard.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026


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+ 100

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (wzUl9)

119 Rag paper lasts incredibly well. In college I was allowed to look at — and handle — a copy of Copernicus's book _De Revolutionibus_ with annotations and cross-outs by the Holy Office. It must have been nearly 400 years old and was in fine shape. Meanwhile some of my books from the 1960s shed pages every time I read them.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (78a2H)

120
I finally finished "Consider Phlebas" by Iain M Banks.

I put it aside because I got a little tired of his usual organization of his Culture novels.

Usually Banks starts with a mission that winds up having a bunch of side-quests, which may or may not have any relevance to the story or mission at hand.

Now, he's a good writer and the last oh, 4th or 5th of the novel just zooms for doom and unhappy endings.

But, after reading 3 in a row, I sort of knew what to expect.

If you want a good idea of what his "Culture" series is all about, "Consider Plebas" is a great place to start.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

121 Still reading Washington: A Life by Ron Chernow.

General Washington is trying to defend New York City. The attack by the British is yet to come.

Well written, with surprise information in the story. I though I knew the story of the Revolutionary War well, but I was wrong.

Martha Washington is a part of the story here. Her importance to keeping George going is quite revealing. She spent almost half the war with George.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:01 AM (u82oZ)

122 76 ... "But my favorite is easily a set of Shakespeare, missing one book. They were brought by covered wagon to South Dakota by my sodbuster ancestors."

Wenda, Those volumes are special, especially for the family. Louis L'Amour mentions in a few of his stories, based on research, that books on the frontier were valued for their contents and appeal to everyone. When there is little room for books as pioneers moved west, they took only the best. Sounds like your family's situation.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:02 AM (yTvNw)

123 As an aside with Empire of the East I mentioned to the yutes I know sometimes that when I was their age we had the possibility of a REAL apocalypse - a nuclear WWIII with the Soviets. You have anxiety because global warming might raise global temperatures in a century or something? What if you woke up tomorrow and it was 1M degrees in your local city center?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (sKqQm)
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Anyone remember "Twilight: 2000?" Imagine high school kids literally playing a game that will take place when they are in their 20s about scrounging gas and ammunition to fight the Soviet remnant after all the missiles have launched.

My friends and I played GDW's Third World War games where you could drop tactical nukes all over central Europe. Nuclear war wasn't some imagined thing your grandkids will deal with, it was a practical problem to be solved.

Gen X is just built different.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)

124 88>>> Tonypete
Is that journal handwritten, or has it been typed out?
How can you read the old German script? Our son teaches HS German, and is fluent in reading and speaking (you'd be surprised that some language teachers are NOT) and he struggles with reading that old High German script.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 10:04 AM (4VH0B)

125 Cooool!

I need to look this up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris


Believe it or not, Abe Books has a copy of it, do a search for:


ORIGINAL 1855 COLTON'S HAND COLORED MAP OF NORTHERN AMERICA BRITISH, RUSSIAN & DANISH POSSESSIONS
Published by J. H. Colton & Co., 1855

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:06 AM (0U5gm)

126 I played those GDW Third World War in Europe games in the 1980s. My friend/opponent and I both agreed the A-10 aircraft units were ridiculously overpowered. Then we got to see them in action in the first Gulf War and realized the game was spot-on.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:08 AM (78a2H)

127 The fanciest book I ever owned was a the red leather hardback expensive edition of "The Lord Of The Rings" in a box slipcover. Also the matching green one of "The Hobbit." They collected dust on the bookshelf for decades until I decided I was never going to actually read them, preferring my ancient Ballantine paperback ones (with the covers that aligned into one full picture) and gave them away. Now I have them on Kindle but the paperbacks are a sentimental favorite and I love the smell of yellowing old paper.

Just finished up new-to-me author Jennifer Milliken's "Here For The Cake" which was a nice, sweet romance with some good twists. Immediately acquired some more of her work, she's a keeper. I wish I could write characters like she does...

Posted by: tankascribe at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (NtoJk)

128 Good morning all
Did a lot of reading this week.
First
Decided to check out the mystery book club at the library. Book is You Are Fatally Invited by Ande Pliego. It is her first book so surprised about the choice. It brings a bunch of mystery writers to an island retreat where (obviously) one gets murdered. It sounds like it is going to be like every other book, movie you have ever seen or read but it is quite good. Actually thinking about taking pen and paper and making lists so I can figure out who Dunn it.The meetup is on the 28th so I am really curious about what it will be like.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (kJmSS)

129 Another great WWIII game from way back when...Fortress America

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (sKqQm)

130 I confess the only book I’ve had rebound is Pappy Eromero’s King James Bible. Mama gave it to him in 1965-66. Re-binding cost about $100 or so in 96.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (LHPAg)

131 I really enjoyed Ardath Mayhar's slender novel "The World Ends in Hickory Hollow". A husband and wife, former farm kids who later ditched the big city and returned to their old homesteads in rural Texas, find themselves uniquely able to weather the aftermath of an atomic war. They were so isolated that the resulting power outage didn't even register until days in. News off the airwaves is patchy, and then pretty much nonexistent.

They've rounded up a passel of abandoned seniors who have the old wisdom necessary to see them through low tech times. Things are looking survivable until they run into a clan of violent nut jobs who only want to destroy.

Did I learn about this book at the HQ or Sarah Hoyt's joint? In any case, thanks to whoever.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:11 AM (kpS4V)

132 Another great WWIII game from way back when...Fortress America
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:10 AM (sKqQm)
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Yes, but not as good as Shogun, which we used to play every Saturday night.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:11 AM (ZOv7s)

133 The original journal was transcribed to print at some point by the author's sons. (The Helffrich brothers) and, I assume, had a very limited published run. It is not printed in the old German script - it seems to just be a 'modern' typeset. The chapter titles and dates associated with the title are in the old script however.

One thing I noticed long ago - certain names of some of the faithful that the Pastor ministered to are redacted - a blank is shown instead of the name. Reading the stories one can see why. The Pastor pulls no punches when relating what folks have confessed to or relayed to him.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 19, 2026 10:12 AM (IUQak)

134 Fortress America is a fun game, though the premise makes no goddamned sense at all. One oddity is the random nature of reinforcements. I always thought the USA player should have at least some idea of what's in the pipeline. Also: they turn up in the damnedest places, so that there's no real strategic significance to real-world industrial centers.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:13 AM (78a2H)

135 Rag paper lasts incredibly well. In college I was allowed to look at — and handle — a copy of Copernicus's book _De Revolutionibus_ with annotations and cross-outs by the Holy Office. It must have been nearly 400 years old and was in fine shape. Meanwhile some of my books from the 1960s shed pages every time I read them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:00 AM (78a2H)
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University libraries often have very old relics. The kind of books you can only handle while wearing special white cotton gloves so that you don't get your oils all over them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 10:13 AM (FZ29D)

136 Oh and also I remember played Gulf Strike which was a Victory Games offering focused on the middle east during the last cold war. Some of the scenarios you could play:

Iran-Iraq War
USSR invades Iran
Iran invades Gulf States
and...
Iran tries to close Hormouz.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (sKqQm)

137 Colonialism was a mixed bag for the colonized. The first point, and I find leftwingers pretty much always ignore this, is that it replaced one form of non representative government with another.

So, what is better local, primitive despots or distant advanced ones? Especially for societies that were still stuck in the tribal stage?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (sKqQm)
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What you're mostly describing is pre-mid-19th century colonialism. The author touches on the vast differences to modern colonialism.

It's not so simple. There were numerous cases where modern colonialism met with the approval of the general populace. It was more like "Welcome the new boss - nowhere as horrific as the old."

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (w2sCY)

138 I played those GDW Third World War in Europe games in the 1980s. My friend/opponent and I both agreed the A-10 aircraft units were ridiculously overpowered. Then we got to see them in action in the first Gulf War and realized the game was spot-on.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:08 AM (78a2H)
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When I put together an operational-level wargame for the Air Force, I borrowed heavily from the airpower rules in the Third World War series. It was well received, but of course my efforts to standardize USAF wargaming came to naught because a retired O-5 civilian at HAF feared it would destroy his rice bowl. The LeMay Center staff loved my work, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)

139 On the cheesier end of vintage reads, I love old SF books with lurid covers. And that pulpy smell means a quality experience!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 09:58 AM (kpS4V)

I have a similar penchant for pulp mystery novels. So, my favorite bindings tend to be pretty delicate, as cheap paperbacks don't age well. But I love them.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:15 AM (h7ZuX)

140 Tonypete

That sounds so interesting.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 10:16 AM (4VH0B)

141 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Sorry to be late, but it's another one of those days when waking up is a huge disappointment.

The only thing I've read recently was Pamela Hutchinson's The Curse of 'Queen Kelly', a behind-the-scenes look at the never-finished, never-released 1929 Erich von Stroheim / Gloria Swanson film.

I'm reading it for inspiration, and it's helping a bit. It is not, however, a book for the casual movie fan. You have to really have an interest in silents to enjoy it.

The author doesn't shy away from showing what a rotten bastard Joe Kennedy was, either.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:16 AM (qRla/)

142 Impressive book binding
Thanks Sabrina!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (WL2lA)

143 The postapocalyptic TTRPG Gamma World is one of the things that made me a conservative.

Seriously: I tried to map out the devastation from a nuclear strike, to see what the tiny islands of civilization would be in a sea of destruction.

Instead what I found was that whole continents would be untouched.

Which meant that when people began to describe nuclear disarmament as necessary for the survival of the species, I became skeptical of their motives, and have remained so ever since.

I get flashes deja vu for the 1980s anti-nuke movement whenever I hear activists describing AI and data centers as existential threats.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (78a2H)

144 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:11 AM (kpS4V)

Thanks, Eris, for The World Ends In Texas. I immediately thought of Corsicana.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (LHPAg)

145 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 09:56 AM (u82oZ)
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In trying to keep on topic, I say "book 'em, Danno!"

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (w2sCY)

146 Oh and also I remember played Gulf Strike which was a Victory Games offering focused on the middle east during the last cold war. Some of the scenarios you could play:

Iran-Iraq War
USSR invades Iran
Iran invades Gulf States
and...
Iran tries to close Hormouz.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (sKqQm)
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Back in the day I owned Battle for Germany and Southern Front, and finally bought Persian Gulf, which has the starting scenario and a diplomatic 'card game' to keep things interesting. The map is horribly out of date given all the development in the Gulf since then.

I set up the maps, but it's unpunched and I couldn't bring myself to mar its perfection.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

147 University libraries often have very old relics. The kind of books you can only handle while wearing special white cotton gloves so that you don't get your oils all over them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel


I recall that my university library had a first or second edition of the works of Edgar Allan Poe published prior to the civil war just sitting on the shelves.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (0U5gm)

148 @46, I tend to think that Dumas was showing us the struggle which these fellows have with summoning the moral courage to do what is right, even though it goes completely against their deeply ingrained sense of protecting and cherishing women. Milady is seething with sheer evil, and they know it. Yet, they quail beneath the task, even though they have faced and killed/wounded countless men in battle. This is entirely different, and they would have failed, letting Milady to continue her evil had Athos not remained constant.

Sometimes doing the right thing is terrible.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (gbWHQ)

149 Second
I had asked here about John Sandford. I had acquired one of the ,ast books in his Lucas Davenport series and wondered if I should start with book 1. Eromero said Do It. Reading Rules of
Prey. I am already a fan. Lucas, a jaded, brilliant police detective is the best liar in all of fiction. His ability to manipulate everyone around him including the multiple women who can't quit him to help him solve the crime is fascinating. That Sandford has birthed this incredibly complex character right out of the gate has me hooked.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 10:20 AM (kJmSS)

150 It's not so simple. There were numerous cases where modern colonialism met with the approval of the general populace. It was more like "Welcome the new boss - nowhere as horrific as the old."
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 10:14 AM (w2sCY)
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Colonialism was the default excuse for every corrupt tyrant to blame someone else for their mismanagement. It's like "systemic racism" - deflects blame and requires an impossible to achieve solution to solve the problem.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:21 AM (ZOv7s)

151 Which meant that when people began to describe nuclear disarmament as necessary for the survival of the species, I became skeptical of their motives, and have remained so ever since./i]

The anti-nuke groups both those opposing nuke power and nukes weapons were all funded and controlled by the Soviets.

The anti-datacenter people are a mixed bag. I'm sure we'll find they are being funded by China, but I opposing data centers is a natural conclusion based on pre-existing environmentalist arguments. Of course the amusing thing is the American leftwing oligarchs funding the environmental movement have invested heavily in data centers and are telling the environmentalist to shut up.

So who wins the Chinese or the American oligarchs? Hard to say...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 10:21 AM (sKqQm)

152 @101 --

I saw the movie first, and that made me want to read the book. Oldest son and his wife found a copy, minus dust jacket, at a library sale in their city and surprised me with it a few years ago.

I tried to guess what the cover looked like. Searched for the book on eBay, and I was right -- men standing on a boxcar.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 10:22 AM (HapY3)

153 Thanks, Eris, for The World Ends In Texas. I immediately thought of Corsicana.
Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 10:17 AM (LHPAg)
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Me too!

My library's interlibrary loan service found a copy for me. Highly recommended.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:22 AM (kpS4V)

154 There were numerous cases where modern colonialism met with the approval of the general populace. It was more like "Welcome the new boss - nowhere as horrific as the old."

Posted by: Biden's Dog


There is a conversation recorded in Blood River where the author is talking to a captain on a barge hauler on the Congo River, who asks about the effects of colonialism on Africa. The captain points out that Singapore and Malaysia were former colonies, and they have skyscrapers and formula one races. "Colonialism isn't the problem" was the captain's point of view.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:23 AM (0U5gm)

155 I am about to be shanghaied off to the local Museum of Art. It's not a bad jaunt, actually . . . except for the heat and the bad streets I have to drive on to get there and come back. The A/C in the museum, I have reason to know, is *cold,* and so I'll bring a sweater.

No idea what kind of art they are featuring this month, but I know they have both old-fashioned representational art and the "modern" kind we often sneer at (sometimes unfairly) on the Art Thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:23 AM (wzUl9)

156 Trimegistus

I was amused by the series of three divisional level defend NATO and Germany from the Red Army games by Dunnigan.

The first game, NATO, shows the Soviets pushing back NATO forces easily, but then American reinforcements hold Western Germany.
World War III has Soviets taking over France with the Allies defending Spain and Britain. This is the premise of the official 1949 war plans revealed in
Dropshot[i/] by Anthony Cave Brown.
The last, The Next War: Modern Conflict in Europe, has the Soviets stopped easily by NATO Forces.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:24 AM (u82oZ)

157 I recall that my university library had a first or second edition of the works of Edgar Allan Poe published prior to the civil war just sitting on the shelves.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 19, 2026 10:18 AM (0U5gm)
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Michigan State's library had all of Lovecraft's work in the Special Collection because they were stolen so frequently. You go down, check in your backpack and all possessions, are given a pencil and a sheet of paper upon request, and then sit at a bare table and read your book under the watchful eyes of the staff.

None of them were rare editions, they just were stolen so often that replacement was a pain.

MSU also has one of the largest collections of comic books, which would have been cool if I gave a damn about them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:24 AM (ZOv7s)

158 Colonialism was a mixed bag for the colonized. The first point, and I find leftwingers pretty much always ignore this, is that it replaced one form of non representative government with another.

So, what is better local, primitive despots or distant advanced ones? Especially for societies that were still stuck in the tribal stage?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:45 AM (sKqQm)

The way it strikes me is that being colonized really sucks for the generation that is being colonized. There doesn't seem to be too many exceptions to this. However, depending on what culture is doing the colonizing, it can bring some benefits to the generations that come after the new rule is established.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 19, 2026 10:25 AM (3v7ra)

159
MSU also has one of the largest collections of comic books, which would have been cool if I gave a damn about them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026


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I doubt I'll ever be up that way, but -- Any of the old Silver Age DC Comics series like Batman and Jimmy Olsen?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)

160 Yikes.

Off to the Barrel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (u82oZ)

161 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:16 AM (qRla/)

Here's something not disappointing for you. My niece is eagerly awaiting your next Theda Bara novel. Any way to get a signed copy for her?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:27 AM (1tpiU)

162
Zamyatin's "We", not sure why. Russian artists & poets sure got screwed by the October Revolution (which they supported), didn't they?...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:00 AM (VyBeY)


I suppose that I feel sorry for the Russian creative types, who supported the Russian Revolution and then got totally screwed.

After all, the Commies were a "new", scientific system of gov't. How could they fail?

Though on the other hand, if the Russkie artistes had paid a little bit of attention to what the 7 Deadly Sins are, they probably could've figured things out way ahead of the censorship and prison camps.

It's a bit like John Cleese grousing now in his dotage about how England is being destroyed when he spent his career deriding and tearing down that society himself. I was just joking isn't quite the excuse he thinks it is.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 10:28 AM (iJfKG)

163 There is another element to the data center brouhaha: location. Many of these are being located well away from urban areas in rural communities that don't want them. In Michigan, the Dems taking total control of state government resulted in them abolishing local zoning laws so that they could plan windmills, solar panels and data centers wherever they want.

Michigan is chock full of brownfields. Mere miles away from me there is a massive bare patch of ground where Fisher Body and the Verlinden Plant used to be, conveniently located next to massive utility and water. Why not build there? Why pave farmland?

That's the issue around here.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:28 AM (ZOv7s)

164 Third
I started Ilona Andrews newest This kingdom Will Not Kill Me. Maybe got 10 pages in and gave up. It is like they(she writes with her husband) started a whole new genre based on gaming. Their last one The Inheritance is similar and also gave up on it. Their last characters are boring and the story line makes no sense, just keeps roaming around. Sad because I really liked her writing in the past.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 19, 2026 10:30 AM (kJmSS)

165 I doubt I'll ever be up that way, but -- Any of the old Silver Age DC Comics series like Batman and Jimmy Olsen?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)
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No idea, but it is one of the largest holdings in the world, so probably.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (ZOv7s)

166 53 ... "I want to read Relic, and the waitlist is months long on Libby, and it's not on Hoopla, and my library doesn't have a copy."

DMLW,
I'm surprised your library doesn't have Relic. You can often find used paperback copies of the Pendergast books on Amazon or used book stores for under three bucks. The Kindle prices are often ten dollars or more, which is a bummer.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (yTvNw)

167 Well, time to get going. Thanks, Sabrina!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (ZOv7s)

168 I'm in a rural area myself and it's a little shocking to watch the astroturfing in real-time. We've got local activists laying the groundwork to oppose hypothetical data centers nobody's even proposed yet.

Neville Roy Singham's paying for it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:32 AM (78a2H)

169 Here's something not disappointing for you. My niece is eagerly awaiting your next Theda Bara novel. Any way to get a signed copy for her?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:27 AM (1tpiU)


Well! Thank her for me.

The novel is still a couple of months away from publication. When it's out, I'll announce it here on the Bool Thread, and you can send me her address then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:33 AM (qRla/)

170 I have to go chop firewood for winter now.

I tell my lefty friends I burn wood "to reduce my carbon footprint" and they all nod sagely in agreement.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:34 AM (78a2H)

171 And I think I'll call it a day.

Hope you all have a wonderful Sunday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:34 AM (qRla/)

172 No idea, but it is one of the largest holdings in the world, so probably.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 19, 2026


***
MSU's Comic Art Collection pages do list a lot of the JOs and Batmans.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 10:36 AM (wzUl9)

173 I was saying Boo-urns.

Posted by: Hans Moleman at July 19, 2026 10:36 AM (0aYVJ)

174
I'm in a rural area myself and it's a little shocking to watch the astroturfing in real-time. We've got local activists laying the groundwork to oppose hypothetical data centers nobody's even proposed yet.

Neville Roy Singham's paying for it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 19, 2026 10:32 AM (78a2H)


Ugh.

This is "No Nuclear Power Plants" all over again.

With the same result that we as a country are once again crippled by the most ignorant and retarded among us by their votes.

Great.

Don't follow Bond Villain's ploys, people!

Smarten up!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 19, 2026 10:37 AM (iJfKG)

175 I have always avoided Harlan Coben, maybe because he's so popular and definitely, in part, because he allows scumbags like Blow Job Billy to co-author books with him, or so I thought until I looked it up and that was James Patterson.

https://tinyurl.com/3zzcpx6h

(Although he does have some questionable collaborators. https://tinyurl.com/2x2x8end)

Anyway, I broke down and am reading Coben's Nobody's Fool and it's a real page turner. During his after graduation European vacation during which he meets a girl in Spain, he wakes up next to her dead body covered in blood. He gets the hell out of Dodge but the incident haunts him for decades particularly when a second girlfriend is murdered. He turns to alcohol which results in disgrace and unemployment. Then he sees his dead Spanish girlfriend up and walking around . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 10:37 AM (ndZc7)

176 In the Saint short story "The Water Merchant," written in the late 1950s, Simon Templar opines that colonialism was a good thing and that the Europeans should have fought to keep their holdings. He also fires a broadside at foreign aid. It matched my views perfectly.

This is in the collection "The Saint to the Rescue."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 10:38 AM (6coSf)

177 The novel is still a couple of months away from publication. When it's out, I'll announce it here on the Bool Thread, and you can send me her address then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 19, 2026 10:33 AM (qRla/)

Thanks, I'll email it.

Well , the central land people want to go somewhere so I'll finish the thread later.

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 10:39 AM (1tpiU)

178 Dear horde, although I haven't been around as much as I once was as much as I once was, I have always valued this community. Long story short, I now have a fast acting form of ovarian cancer and my ptognosis is not good. Don't feel bad for me- i went from leading a normal life 2 weeks ago to dealing with almost unbearable nausea and weakness. Death will be a relief.my great concern is tying up loose ends with my will and funeral expenses. With the youth in this country falling for socialism, maybe its a good time to go. God bless Ace and the horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

179 We've got local activists laying the groundwork to oppose hypothetical data centers nobody's even proposed yet.

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There's a data center under my bed!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (ndZc7)

180 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v

Prayers up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 10:41 AM (ndZc7)

181 With all the argybargy and foofaraw over Nolan's Odyssey, I thought I'd dig out my own sets off the shelf. The first one is a Scholastic Books version (remember them?) I read in elementary school, "The Adventures o Ulysses", with groovy illustrations. The cover blurbs prove they know who they're appealing to -- bloodthirsty kids!

"Circe -- the beautiful witch who turns men into pigs!
The Tree Monsters -- cannibal giants that look like trees!
The Sirens -- hideous bird-women who lure sailors to their death!
Scylla -- an enormous spider with twelve legs and six heads - and a wild greed for human flesh!"

I also have a boring adult Homer with translation by Samuel Butler. Is this considered a good version?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:42 AM (kpS4V)

182 All prayers appreciated.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:42 AM (9cZci)

183 I have a beautiful Barnes & Noble edition The Count of Monte Cristo, but my old books were affordable foe their day. My grandmother passed on the 1830 well-worn edition of Walter Scott's Lady of the Lake, which is embossed leather but with an off-center title on the spine (probably how my great-grandparents could afford such a treasure)

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 19, 2026 10:43 AM (fXG//)

184 Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)
--/-

My sincerest condolences, Donna.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:43 AM (kpS4V)

185 MSU also has one of the largest collections of comic books,
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

A library next to a river, literally, a cool place.

Posted by: Auspex at July 19, 2026 10:43 AM (Y8DZL)

186 And interestingly that is what I got...

As an aside with Empire of the East I mentioned to the yutes I know sometimes that when I was their age we had the possibility of a REAL apocalypse - a nuclear WWIII with the Soviets. You have anxiety because global warming might raise global temperatures in a century or something? What if you woke up tomorrow and it was 1M degrees in your local city center?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 09:48 AM (sKqQm)

Days ending in -y for kids growing up in the 1980s.

Then came 1989.

Both were very formative of my world view. Spending time in Germany did not hurt matters.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:44 AM (4g5V+)

187 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v
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God Bless

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 10:44 AM (3oLMy)

188 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

Oh dear. So sorry. Sending prayers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 19, 2026 10:44 AM (0aYVJ)

189 Writer's Block: When your imaginary friends don't take to you.

Posted by: clarence at July 19, 2026 10:45 AM (1QT7n)

190 I also have a boring adult Homer with translation by Samuel Butler. Is this considered a good version?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 19, 2026 10:42 AM (kpS4V)

I read the Robert FitzGerald and W.H.D. Rouse translations and have a copy of the latter.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:45 AM (4g5V+)

191 178 ... Donna&&&&,
Prayers for your comfort and peace of mind.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:45 AM (yTvNw)

192 160 Yikes.

Off to the Barrel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 19, 2026 10:26 AM (u82oZ)

Here, take these!

*hands NaCly a tub of Clorox wipes

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:46 AM (h7ZuX)

193 Donna&&&&&, The Peace of The Lord be upon you and see you into your Father's loving arms.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 10:47 AM (abScH)

194 I read Donna&&&&&&v’s post…on the anniversary of my father’s funeral. He was taken by cancer.

So it has to be said.

Fuck cancer.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:48 AM (4g5V+)

195 @168, I can absolutely agree with that. One of my pastimes in my retirement has been attempting to lure businesses to my newly (7 years) found home. The County in which it sits is about average sized, yet very, very sparsely populated. Like less than 10,000 for the whole county. Early on I looked at the "Data Center" people, and decided to move in that direction: Low footprint, little traffic/disruption, nice tax revenue. What's not to like? I then began interacting with these companies, traveling to meet with them, actually inspecting their existing facilities, and looking at presentations of their future (late 2024) facilities. All of them involved closed-circulation cooling, and most of them included their own power generation capacity. This was before all of the recent hoo-hah, of course, and they knew that the grid was insufficient, thanks to Obama and Biden, and that self-sufficiency was paramount.

Singham's lies are ridiculous, and prey on ignorance.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2026 10:48 AM (gbWHQ)

196 Commies destroying farmland destroys their enemies economic culture.
The marginal fields around here are getting solar farmed. The Navy base and rocket labs are getting a battery farm just in case.
Ripping all of that infrastructure out to grow winter wheat and potatoes makes no economic sense.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 10:48 AM (T8bqm)

197 Oh, Donna&&&&&&, my heart goes out to you. Prayers up for you and those you love. I am so sorry to hear this.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 10:49 AM (4VH0B)

198 Good morning from the Left Coast. Looks like another "No sky July" day here in the Bay Area, although the fog may burn off this afternoon.

Almost finished with Pyrates. I find I'm enjoying its absurdities so much I'm reluctant to finish it. Does anyone else have that problem--not wanting a book to end?

Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 10:49 AM (O/GSq)

199 Almost finished with Pyrates. I find I'm enjoying its absurdities so much I'm reluctant to finish it. Does anyone else have that problem--not wanting a book to end?
Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 10:49 AM (O/GSq)
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All the time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 10:50 AM (FZ29D)

200 In my neck of the woods, a data center might actually be in one spark of economic life around here.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 10:50 AM (4g5V+)

201 DMLW,
I'm surprised your library doesn't have Relic. You can often find used paperback copies of the Pendergast books on Amazon or used book stores for under three bucks. The Kindle prices are often ten dollars or more, which is a bummer.
Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:31 AM (yTvNw)

I'm in a small, rural town. I could get it through interlibrary loan, and may do that, but I'm only home on weekends. Should probably get a library card in the city, where I stay with Mom during the week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:51 AM (h7ZuX)

202 I just finished reading Dan Simmons Carrion Comfort, nearly 900 pages long. But he's such a good writer I finished it quickly. Now I'm reading some short stories by Elizabeth Moon along with Karl Jaspers' Socrates, Buddha, Confucius, Jesus: The Paradigmatic Individuals. Wouldn't recommend it.

Posted by: Blahblahblah at July 19, 2026 10:51 AM (ca+Gv)

203 Donna&&&&&, thank you for letting us know. May the journey ahead be as peaceful and comfortable as possible and remember that if it’s God’s will, miracles do happen.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 19, 2026 10:52 AM (EiUt/)

204 with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts

Och, seo boireannach aig a bheil fios cò mu dheidhinn a tha i.

Posted by: Angus McAngusface at July 19, 2026 10:52 AM (0sNs1)

205 Prayers up.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 10:53 AM (q3u5l)

206 Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)
--/-

I prayer for your comfort and strength to accomplish your task. God bless.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 10:53 AM (tZeAA)

207 181 ... "I also have a boring adult Homer with translation by Samuel Butler. Is this considered a good version?"

The Butler version is considered to be good from what I've read in reviews but make sure it's the unabridged version. The Barnes and Noble hardcover classics edition is the Butler version. I prefer the Fagles translations.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 10:56 AM (yTvNw)

208 Donna of the ampersands, thank you for letting us know. God's will be done, and a better place awaits. Prayers up for you for recovery if possible, but peace and joy in your remaining time, if not. We love you.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:57 AM (h7ZuX)

209 Prayers for you, Donna&&&&&&v. That's an awful diagnosis.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (fXG//)

210 I'm not a fan of data centers being built where their power needs will negatively affect their neighbors and also turning good land into crap.

Locate all the necessary data centers in the blue city shitholes instead of farmland and beautiful 'hydro sources' .

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (tZeAA)

211 Thanks for book thread tending, Sabrina.

I'm still on Robert Jordan re-read. I'm into The Shadow Rises, which is one of the better books in the series, largely because it focuses on Rand and the Aiel people, who are interesting. The Aiel have some real thought put into them, of course they are a blend of historical cultures (their adoption of the assegai short spear is well justified in-narrative) but they're neat.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (xcxpd)

212 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

So sorry to hear that Donna, prayers for strength to you.
We'll miss you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 19, 2026 10:59 AM (xcxpd)

213 Nothing too fancy here, but I do have a first edition of Out of Africa that's pretty good looking. Not much reading as we were on a road trip around Lake Michigan with a detour to Lake Superior at Marquette.

Posted by: Who Knew at July 19, 2026 11:00 AM (+ViXu)

214
Locate all the necessary data centers in the blue city shitholes instead of farmland and beautiful 'hydro sources' .
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 10:58 AM (tZeAA)

The small town nearest me has a good amount of empty space that can be turned into a data center.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 11:01 AM (4g5V+)

215 200 In my neck of the woods, a data center might actually be in one spark of economic life around here.

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Yep. Those server stacks buy a lot of groceries and cafe lattes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 11:02 AM (6/7Fs)

216 The Rouse translation of the Odyssey is a prose translation and IIRC, pretty easy reading. This was the one I read in high school, Signet Classics edition I think, and it shouldn't be hard to find either new or used (yet another book I should revisit). Don't know why, but I've always bogged down in verse translations.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:03 AM (q3u5l)

217 Yep. Those server stacks buy a lot of groceries and cafe lattes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 11:02 AM (6/7Fs)

I don’t know about the cafe lattes here though…: )

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 11:03 AM (4g5V+)

218 Prayers for you Donna.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 19, 2026 11:04 AM (2Ez/1)

219 Other than the ultra-premium editions aimed at collectors, most of today's "hardcovers" are just paperbacks with slightly thicker boards (pages glued rather than sewn, etc.). You're lucky if they last one reading.

Not worth the money, IMO.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:09 AM (IG3/x)

220 I finished "Von Ryan's Express" by David Westheimer.

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A similar book you might like is Kings Go Forth by Joe David Brown, a novel based on his experiences during the Champagne Campaign in southern France. Like VRE, it was made into a so-so movie starring Sinatra, Tony Curtis, and Natalie Wood. The author was a disabled vet and did not view the war fondly. The plot concerns a forward artillery observed attempting to find a way to break through the enemy lines.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:11 AM (ndZc7)

221 > Yep. Those server stacks buy a lot of groceries and cafe lattes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 19, 2026 11:02 AM (6/7Fs)

They pay a shit-ton of property taxes, which is not nothing.

Loudon County, Virginia is home to some big Amazon, Microsoft, and Google data centers (and many smaller players).

Data centers take up 4% of the land area, but pay a full 38% of the property taxes. Nearly a billion dollars per year.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:14 AM (IG3/x)

222 Data centers take up 4% of the land area, but pay a full 38% of the property taxes. Nearly a billion dollars per year.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:14 AM (IG3/x)

4% of taxable land area? Because if so that doesn't make sense they pay 38% unless they have a different tax rate.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:21 AM (tZeAA)

223 They're building one of those data center things in Montgomery County, MO-- a rural county not too far from STL, and the people are ecstatic about all the new jobs.

Me last week: "The Medici: Power, Money and Ambition in the Italian Renaissance," by Paul Strathern. I'm learning a lot about Renaissance art, as a result. It's kind of a Learing Center.

I read somewhere that Venice has a permanent population of a few hundred thousand people-- and gets 5 million tourists a year. As a result, it's easy to find a Carnival mask and souvenir shop, but hard to find a grocery store.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:24 AM (RCjYY)

224 Donna, I'm praying for you and a miracle. Don't spend too much energy worrying about the gross retards in this messed up country "falling for socialism," or reading too much stupid news about them here... it's always a waste of time anyway, and your time is more precious than most people's now.

I've always enjoyed your comments here but I don't want to see them if it's just depressing you... godspeed, and best of luck with whatever comes of this illness.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 19, 2026 11:24 AM (BI5O2)

225 > 4% of taxable land area? Because if so that doesn't make sense they pay 38% unless they have a different tax rate.
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:21 AM (tZeAA)

Property taxes are generally assessed on the total value, not just the value of the raw land.

A data center full of high end computers is worth a hell of a lot more than the same-sized cow pasture.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:26 AM (IG3/x)

226 Kilts???
Kilts are allowed?
Well. Dang!
BBL
*heads for closet*

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 11:29 AM (2WIwB)

227 Sabrina,
Thanks for the topic and showing us that gorgeous book.

In a very small way I regard my books as a sort of Library of Alexandria where the knowledge and entertainment is worth preserving. Not just classics of literature and history but fun reads like the Matt Helm books and Nero Wolfe stories. Even ephemora like the MASH Goes to ... books, Doc Smith's Lensman series, and cozy mysteries have value if only for light entertainment.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 11:29 AM (yTvNw)

228 Meanwhile, in a bookstore in LA . . .

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:30 AM (ndZc7)

229 They're building one of those data center things in Montgomery County, MO-- a rural county not too far from STL, and the people are ecstatic about all the new job---

Those would be mostly temporary during construction. It's my understanding that Data centers don't have a lot of permanent positions.

Anyway I understand both sides of the issue but just lean toward the same position I have for green energy companies locations.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:30 AM (tZeAA)

230 178 Donna

My prayers up too.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:31 AM (RCjYY)

231 175 I have always avoided Harlan Coben, maybe because he's so popular and definitely, in part, because he allows scumbags like Blow Job Billy to co-author books with him, or so I thought until I looked it up and that was James Patterson.

Jor Blob Billy.

Posted by: Eromero at July 19, 2026 11:31 AM (DXbAa)

232 Oh damn Donna.
Hitting my knees for you.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 11:32 AM (2WIwB)

233 JTB, I think a Venn diagram of our holdings would damn near be a single circle.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 11:32 AM (p/isN)

234 Most areas are more than happy for a data center built near by.
More goods and services for everyone. And so much money for greedy politicians to grift.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:32 AM (3oLMy)

235 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 11:26 AM (IG3/x

I'm aware. So the data center is the only industry or business in the county?

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:33 AM (tZeAA)

236 Donna, terrible news. Hope peace in mind comes to you

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 11:33 AM (Ia/+0)

237 “Trimegistus

I was amused by the series of three divisional level defend NATO and Germany from the Red Army games by Dunnigan.“

I believe that’s the game where the rules say, if nukes are released, douse the map in lighter fluid and light it.

Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at July 19, 2026 11:34 AM (U/7CP)

238 I'm heading to church in a few minutes. Donna, you'll be in my prayers today.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 19, 2026 11:34 AM (p/isN)

239 226 Kilts???
Kilts are allowed?
Well. Dang!
BBL
*heads for closet*
Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2026 11:29 AM (2WIwB)


A Kilt and a Sporran. The forms must be obeyed.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 19, 2026 11:35 AM (6W6ju)

240 >>>Those would be mostly temporary during construction. It's my understanding that Data centers don't have a lot of permanent positions.
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Construction has always been that way. It's a contract job. When the job is finished you move on to the next one. You may not remember what it was like before the regulators and commies took over.
Construction was a boom and moving from job to job was a given.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:37 AM (3oLMy)

241 I read "Galahad and the Grail" by Malcolm Guite.

I never read much in the way of epic poems. A little Homer and an little Anneid.

This is in English and it is a delight.

Kind of pricey, but there are illustrations. It really was a fun read.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 19, 2026 11:37 AM (qFwJc)

242 I found several years back at an estate sale, a set of small "how to design and build infrastructure" books issued by the US government (from back when they knew how to do that)

They have a nice textured binding of some sort, and engraved titles on the cover, I think.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 19, 2026 11:38 AM (9C1ml)

243 Texas Democrat candidate wants to get paid for her story idea but it sounds shifty to me.

https://tinyurl.com/49ekezck

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:38 AM (ndZc7)

244 228 Meanwhile, in a bookstore in LA . . .

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:30 AM (ndZc7)


She's no Talarico.

Posted by: The DNC at July 19, 2026 11:39 AM (6W6ju)

245 243 Texas Democrat candidate wants to get paid for her story idea but it sounds shifty to me.

https://tinyurl.com/49ekezck

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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If it's a Democrat there's grift involved.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:40 AM (3oLMy)

246 Anonosaurus at 243,

Are you sure that 'shifty' re: that link isn't a typographical error?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:41 AM (q3u5l)

247 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:37 AM (3oLMy)

Thus the description 'temporary' . Once a data center is built the jobs mostly go away. But as RB indicated above, the tax revenue going forward is a positive.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2026 11:41 AM (tZeAA)

248
She's no Talarico.

Posted by: The DNC
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She must be an only fans girl.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:41 AM (3oLMy)

249 Construction has always been that way. It's a contract job. When the job is finished you move on to the next one"

Hey, gotta paint the bridge. Again.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:42 AM (cGjQu)

250 228>>>>Meanwhile, in a bookstore in LA . . .

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19


so, looked at the church website. How to give money, testimonies, sign up for this or that. NO statement of faith/beliefs.


hmmmmm

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 11:43 AM (4VH0B)

251 I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

New York Post
@nypost
Body found at home owned by 'Squad' Rep. Ayanna Pressley's husband

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Not a bad thriller opening, though.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:44 AM (ndZc7)

252 Jobs go away sounds as if the construction workers no longer have a job. Their job has not gone away it's been relocated to a new construction site.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:45 AM (3oLMy)

253 Frankly, I don't get the "OMGDATACENTRRRR" handwringing... it's just the latest bugaboo...

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:45 AM (cGjQu)

254 Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

Prayers for you and your family.

Posted by: dantesed at July 19, 2026 11:46 AM (Oy/m2)

255 so, looked at the church website. How to give money, testimonies, sign up for this or that. NO statement of faith/beliefs.


hmmmmm
Posted by: TecumsehTea

I did the same and found the same. There are hours and hours of her sermons on YT but I'm not hours and hours interested.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:46 AM (ndZc7)

256 Body found at home owned by 'Squad' Rep. Ayanna Pressley's husband"

So she has no ownership interest in the property?

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:46 AM (cGjQu)

257 Maybe not a bad thriller opening, but these days the only story coming from that with any chance of acceptance would involve an Evil Right Wing Conspiracy aimed at discrediting the Squad's noble campaign for justice in all things. Murder probably committed by the Evil President himself.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:47 AM (q3u5l)

258 >>Hey, gotta paint the bridge. Again.

Posted by: man
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Much work to be done on the west coast when things are straightened out. It will be Boom States rush to the west all over again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 11:47 AM (3oLMy)

259 Any man what reads a book while eating Cheetos and licks his fingers and turns any page spends a night in the box.

Posted by: Carr, the Floorwalker at July 19, 2026 11:48 AM (6W6ju)

260 Anonosaurus Wrecks,

Can't always tell beliefs by sermons anyway. Wolf in sheep's clothing and all that.
If you are grounded in the Trinity and believe the Bible is the Word of God, well, those are your front and center pieces of information. If not . . . beware.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 11:49 AM (4VH0B)

261 Montgomery County, MO LOBBIED for its new data center-- the ones Hochul banned statewide in NY.

I'm sure CA will follow suit. It already ran off almost all its oil refineries. Why not just make everything except the Malibu beach colony and San Simeon into a theme park? California World.

Remember, Newsome is still the "the working families' governor," though.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:50 AM (RCjYY)

262 Much work to be done on the west coast when things are straightened out. It will be Boom States rush to the west all over again."

True.

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 11:51 AM (cGjQu)

263 ... and so another Book Thread wanders off unsupervised. I must go Do Things. May you all find a good book to read and the time to properly enjoy it!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 19, 2026 11:51 AM (Y9Vvl)

264 Donna,
My prayers are with you.

Miracles do happen. I had the very same diagnosis over thirty years ago. I tell my daughter she saved my life, because she was sixteen and good at it, and I was determined to live long enough for her to grow past that awful angry stage.

And here I am.

May you be as lucky.

Posted by: Wenda at July 19, 2026 11:54 AM (u84c/)

265 Sabrina at 263,

No shortage of good books, at least. I'm reminded of the joke about the mosquito in the nudist colony: "I know what I want to do, I just don't know where to start."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:54 AM (q3u5l)

266 Are you sure that 'shifty' re: that link isn't a typographical error?
Posted by: Just Some Guy

Damn autocucumber!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 19, 2026 11:55 AM (ndZc7)

267 in my prayers Donna

Posted by: barbarausa at July 19, 2026 11:56 AM (enw9G)

268 And off to create more chaos here at Casa Some Guy.

Thanks for the thread, Sabrina.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 19, 2026 11:57 AM (q3u5l)

269 BTW, Hubs & I saw Young Washington in the local movie theater. this weekend. I thought it was a balanced look at Washington, showing his growth into manhood and leadership.

It's an Angel film, so doesn't have widespread distribution or marketing budget. Casting is excellent and I was surprised to see Mary-Louise Parker and Ben Kingsley in significant roles, although not starring. It's important that quality films be supported, especially by those who bemoan the dreck coming out of the major studios.

Now I have to read Ron Chernow's biography of Washington!

Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 11:59 AM (O/GSq)

270 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)


Will say a prayer for you...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 19, 2026 11:59 AM (IJqbQ)

271 265

Deadpan comedian Norm Crosby used to say he was worried because he had a date with Elizabeth Taylor later that night. "I know what's expected of me. I just don't know how to make it interesting."

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 11:59 AM (RCjYY)

272 241 ... "I read "Galahad and the Grail" by Malcolm Guite.
I never read much in the way of epic poems. A little Homer and an little Anneid.
This is in English and it is a delight.
Kind of pricey, but there are illustrations. It really was a fun read."

So glad you found it and like it. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, Rabbit Room Press is making this and the follow on volumes high quality. Those Stephen Crotts woodcut illustrations are wonderful and the poetry is addictive. The next volume comes out in November. I've already preordered the regular edition, for a reading copy, and the fancier, slip cased volume just to have.

Be careful about looking at the resources Guite includes at the end. They lead to a warren of rabbit holes to get lost in.

Posted by: JTB at July 19, 2026 12:00 PM (yTvNw)

273 Donna of the Ampersands, thank you for your book recommendations over the years and my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 19, 2026 12:01 PM (y171U)

274 WE HAZ A NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)

275 Now I have to read Ron Chernow's biography of Washington!
Posted by: March Hare

I've had that biography on order with Amazon for several weeks now. Still back ordered.

Posted by: Tuna at July 19, 2026 12:01 PM (lJ0H4)

276 Nood illegal alien thread.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (InJki)

277 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (VyBeY)

278 You're all waiting for me to tediously report that I have completed reading 'The Brothers Karamazov'. Nope. 2/3 through though.

Pulled a copy of 'The With the Dragon Tattoo' from a local little free library, and read it this past week. Also, am 90% done with 'Mr. Finchley Discovers His England', Canning.

The latter, light, entertaing reading. Especially so if you have spent any time in England.

About Little Free Libraries, I can think of at least 5 in the neighborhood. More within easy driving distance. Are there as many where you live, or is this a local sort of thing?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (XeU6L)

279 Donna of the ampersands, thank you for letting us know. God's will be done, and a better place awaits. Prayers up for you for recovery if possible, but peace and joy in your remaining time, if not. We love you.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 19, 2026 10:57 AM (h7ZuX)

I second that. Donna, I am happy to have met you a few years ago. Do not give up, please fight this evil thing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:03 PM (1z8ji)

280 I watched this video recently. It was one of those times you start watching something, it grabs your interest even though you don't have the time, but watch it anyway.

There is a woman in Norway who is a bit eclectic. but, extremely talented. She decided to take the entire book series of Brandon Sanderson, and create GIANT Tomes out of the books using raised leather bindings and covers. Well, watch if you find this kind of thing interesting. At the end, she presents them to Sanderson at a book signing in the US.

https://tinyurl.com/nhcz4zdh

Posted by: Orson at July 19, 2026 12:04 PM (dIske)

281 a copy of 'The With the Dragon Tattoo'
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'The Girl', dammit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:04 PM (XeU6L)

282 I need spell check....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:05 PM (XeU6L)

283 Donna - My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 12:08 PM (XeU6L)

284 I'm a few chapters into the The Theoretical Minimum by Leonard Susskind and George Hrabovsky. It's a popular treatment of Classical Mechanics but without losing the math. I really enjoyed the Calculus refresher.

I bought it in hopes it can help answer questions I've had for decades about angular momentum. It feels like angular momentum contradicts normal inertia. There is something so weird about rotation. All those little atoms moving in the same way, changing direction together, like a flock of birds.

And the right-hand rule is just offensive. Why do two orthogonal vectors produce another vector in a direction unrelated to both of them? I mean okay in math you can define anything, but why should the universe listen?

And somehow angular momentum is related to particle spin? And btw particles aren't literally spinning . . . are they? And why is it nearly integral, like +/- 1/2? But it's also a vector, right? So spins are oriented.

Is it all just a lie funded by Big-L?

If I figure it out, maybe I'll try to figure out polarity of light next. As if we measurement wave amplitude in inches!

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 12:11 PM (rcENI)

285 Oh uh. Maybe this will help.

Posted by: frammish at July 19, 2026 12:12 PM (rcENI)

286 buhbye frammish

Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 19, 2026 12:33 PM (z6ONu)

287 And btw particles aren't literally spinning . . . are they?
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Uh...curious that NMR and MRI work.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 19, 2026 01:04 PM (XeU6L)

288 Posted by: Donna&&&&&&v at July 19, 2026 10:40 AM (9cZci)

Adding my voice and prayers for you to the list, Donna.

Posted by: March Hare at July 19, 2026 01:37 PM (O/GSq)

Daily Tech News 18 July 2026

Top Story



Tech News



Musical Interlude




Disclaimer: You're never too old to rock and roll.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:35 AM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 04:35 AM (74zY1)

2 w00t

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE)

3 Early morning Boing!

Busy day ahead?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:36 AM (Oom6t)

4 Disclaimer: You're never too old to rock and roll.

Or:

Wikipedia, Grace Slick:

During a 1998 interview with VH1 on a Behind the Music documentary featuring Jefferson Airplane, Slick, who was never shy about discussing the process of getting old, said that the main reason she retired from the music business was that "all rock-and-rollers over the age of 50 look stupid and should retire."

In a 2007 interview, she reiterated: "You can do jazz, classical, blues, opera, country until you're 150, but rap and rock and roll are really a way for young people to get that anger out", and, "It's silly to perform a song that has no relevance to the present or expresses feelings you no longer have."

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

5 https://tinyurl.com/4s7kr5pd

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

6 I will not claim to be savvy on the details of CPU and GPU chips, particularly the speeds and applicability of various benchmarks but it seems from Pixy’s comments that progress in building faster chips has slowed? Or is there a subtlety that I am missing? Power consumption is certainly up.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (Oom6t)

7 5 https://tinyurl.com/4s7kr5pd
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

The jury is out?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:45 AM (6wpGE)

8 Early morning Boing!

Busy day ahead?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:36 AM (Oom6t)
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Nope. Exercised and freshened up early, at 10AM, due to the belated heat wave arriving from Europe. Not the end of the world in any case. Tomorrow should reach 93F in Jerusalem, where the humidity is relatively low compared to, for example, the coastal plain.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 04:45 AM (74zY1)

9 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 04:46 AM (v9vY1)

10 moar covfefe

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:47 AM (6wpGE)

11 It’s interesting that as the World, at least digitally, gets smaller the time zone differences play out in funny ways. That and insomnia. Getting too easy to never unplug.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:55 AM (Oom6t)

12 Mornin , glories.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 04:59 AM (abScH)

13 Hey Ben Had,

Life treating you well?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:07 AM (Oom6t)

14
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (AMvSw)

15 11 It’s interesting that as the World, at least digitally, gets smaller the time zone differences play out in funny ways. That and insomnia. Getting too easy to never unplug.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:55 AM (Oom6t)

Resistance is futile.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (6wpGE)

16 Pete Bog, it is indeed. Hope you and L&T are well also. The renovations all done ?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (abScH)

17 Hello, I must be going.

Before Phil Collins there was this:

https://tinyurl.com/3b8jjz4m

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at July 19, 2026 05:12 AM (Q/FnY)

18 6 I will not claim to be savvy on the details of CPU and GPU chips, particularly the speeds and applicability of various benchmarks but it seems from Pixy’s comments that progress in building faster chips has slowed? Or is there a subtlety that I am missing? Power consumption is certainly up.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (Oom6t)


The impression I get is that there is an All Of The Above effort by everyone to keep the consumer market engaged, when all the latest and greatest memory is getting sucked up by AI datacenters (and they're plodding down the DDR# curve). Just one example is how the processor companies continuing and even reactivating production for older CPUs and graphics chips, which also use an older style of memory (lower DDR#) that households might still be able to afford.

They are still progressing with smaller processes and faster chips, but really just for servers, since the associated memory is bid up to prices ordinary consumers would not be willing to pay.

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 05:13 AM (Sy6m/)

19 It’s interesting that as the World, at least digitally, gets smaller the time zone differences play out in funny ways. That and insomnia. Getting too easy to never unplug.
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 04:55 AM (Oom6t).

I'm trapped in a weird time loop called Central. Nothing is as it should be. I may not be able to make the book thread. This place confuses and frightens me.

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 05:16 AM (1tpiU)

20 I do plan to buy a Zen 6 CPU to upgrade my existing Zen 4 chip, if it turns out as good as reports are saying. The 12-core X3D version should be a big jump while still supporting the same motherboard and RAM.

As for building new systems - no. Unless you stockpiled RAM and SSDs last year, that's out of the question.

(Yeah, I stockpiled RAM and SSDs last year. But I did leave it to the last minute after reporting on it purely as a story for a couple of months.)

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 05:17 AM (BLOW1)

21 17 Hello, I must be going.

Before Phil Collins there was this:

https://tinyurl.com/3b8jjz4m
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at July 19, 2026 05:12 AM (Q/FnY)

1930!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:19 AM (6wpGE)

22 renovations all done ?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:09 AM (abScH)

Next week starting to build a fence around the orchard. 8 feet high. I’ve concluded you can have a fence quickly or you can have it look good. Both are equally expensive. Hoping to get it in before the deer discover the trees again.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:19 AM (Oom6t)

23 tech:

Bonchie retweeted
Andrew Kaczynski
@KFILE
19h
anytime i see AI slop I immediately check if they complain about data centers use of electricity

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:21 AM (6wpGE)

24 oh, my

Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
6h
And who wouldn't want Hunter Biden's endorsement.

Marco Foster
@MarcoFoster_
14h
Hunter Biden: “I look at Zohran Mamdani and I go: there’s a leader. He made promises and you know what he did? He kept them. He’s lowering rent, he’s building co-op grocery stores, pre-kindergarten. That’s all people care about. He’s really, really good”

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (6wpGE)

25 The 12-core X3D version should be a big jump while still supporting the same motherboard and RAM.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 05:17 AM (BLOW1)

Now I need a motherboard decoder. Sounds like the memory chip boom will last longer than the AI Datacenter build out skeptics say it will. Consumers will be ready to upgrade before the memory prices collapse. Will inference at the edge require faster consumer and end user systems?

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (Oom6t)

26 Pete Bog, I take it that fruit picking season and deer hunting season don't coincide. Deer, having grazed on apple would be a nice finish.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (abScH)

27 Deer, having grazed on apple would be a nice finish.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:26 AM (abScH)

Between antler sharpening on the trunks and trashing all the fruit they can kill an orchard in a flash. Opener is October 15th for us. Unlikely I will have time to bring you any fresh venison for the MoMe.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:32 AM (Oom6t)

28 - Good morning

Always read pixy's stuff. Why I don't know. Oh, I know what a CPU is. And the hard drive is I think that silver looking disc. Chips? Maybe those black, square and rectangular things soldered to boards.

But on the whole, when I read his/her posts, I feel like a guy on the group W bench when the seargent starts talking to them.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 19, 2026 05:33 AM (dAv7M)

29 Mamdani, " I am going to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY" campaign promise.

Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)

30 25 Now I need a motherboard decoder. Sounds like the memory chip boom will last longer than the AI Datacenter build out skeptics say it will. Consumers will be ready to upgrade before the memory prices collapse. Will inference at the edge require faster consumer and end user systems?
Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego


Probably not. I run local AI for experiments but regular users don't need that.

On the AMD side things are very simple. Socket AM5 motherboards use DDR5. Socket AM4 motherboards use DDR4. (And that's true of older systems too - AM3 used DDR3, AM2 used DDR2.)

On the Intel side it's a maze with walls that keep on moving.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 05:36 AM (BLOW1)

31 Of course CPU prices are coming down quickly after release. AMD isn't moving nearly as many of them as they would if memory prices were reasonable.

Computer shops are going to start laying off people and then closing due to lack of sales if this stupid bubble doesn't pop.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 05:43 AM (O7YUW)

32 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 05:45 AM (Ia/+0)

33 Pete Bog, are you going to put a few sheep in the fenced in area to keep the grass mowed ?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:45 AM (abScH)

34 G&R, the collateral damage reveals the long range goal. The memory shortage will hit phones and tablets such that consumers will only be able to rent them. As renters, they will not have full control of the software or surfing.
Commies are very good at getting the 2nd and 3rd consequences they want.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 05:58 AM (77Bgk)

35 Pete Bog, are you going to put a few sheep in the fenced in area to keep the grass mowed ?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:45 AM (abScH)

That’s a good idea. Not sure it’s big enough. I need an inexpensive e fence that I could move around the property so they could graze the checkerboard. We have several brushy areas so goats might be better.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 19, 2026 05:59 AM (Oom6t)

36 On tech problems. Yesterday on long drive listened to podcast on my phone all the way. Got there and phone decided it didn't accept mobile data. Nothing was turned off and didn't get back on line until got home WiFi. Maybe if I coould restart it might have fixed it but I can't turn my phone off ond on. Its a non woking button issue.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:03 AM (Ia/+0)

37 Man, tv is so desperate for live sports that there is now a women’s softball league.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:04 AM (77Bgk)

38 Evening and morning to the Sunday toilers and early risers! August is less than two weeks away, ya realize that? Which means for some of you lucky people, summer and its heat will be over in maybe six weeks!

(Offer void in Lousy-ana, Florida, and various southern Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas counties; check your locality)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:06 AM (wzUl9)

39 Marxists got to throw their weight around

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:07 AM (Ia/+0)

40 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Too old to rock 'n roll, too young to die.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 19, 2026 06:07 AM (amcLV)

41 40
Rejoinder: Too old to rock 'n roll, too young to die.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 19, 2026 06:07 AM (amcLV)

5 https://tinyurl.com/4s7kr5pd
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2026 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:11 AM (6wpGE)

42 We watched the first half of Tarantino's The Hateful Eight last night. The blurb on the DVD cover had me intrigued; it seemed like a classic Western story of disparate characters trapped by a snowstorm. Then characters began throwing around the N-word, as people call it nowadays when they don't want to say it; and Samuel Jackson's character is shown as particularly racist and weirdly crude; and I don't know if I want to finish it. Is it worth the time?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:14 AM (wzUl9)

43 I will say in regards to The Hateful Eight that Kurt Russell and Jennifer Jason Leigh are outstanding. JJL in particular; her outlaw character is probably the least glamorous role for an actress in many years, and she revels in it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:17 AM (wzUl9)

44 Good morning morons

Is Tehran burning?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:18 AM (RIvkX)

45 If nothing else, first day since last Sunday I get to sit at home and have a large coffee

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:20 AM (Ia/+0)

46 - Too old to rock and roll?

Well, if your talking load up the kit. Drive to gig. Unload and set up/sound check. Do four hours with three ten minute breaks. Including a third to a fourth of lead vocals.
Load out and drive home.
Then yeah,,, too old.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 19, 2026 06:21 AM (dAv7M)

47 Good morning! The grandkids start school in less than a month. Holy cow!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 19, 2026 06:21 AM (3Ope8)

48 The mosh pits triggered by Ian Anderson’s flute playing…

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:22 AM (pKv0r)

49 And an expensive one; it's a DRAMless PCIe 4.0 design, and the 1TB model costs as much as a 4TB Team brand SSD I bought in March.

Sorta like the organic food of SSDs...just slap AI on it and charge a premium.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:22 AM (l3cgK)

50 29 Mamdani, " I am going to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY" campaign promise.

Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)

Sure dude.

Posted by: Department of State at July 19, 2026 06:23 AM (pKv0r)

51
Last day of the Houston series of dog shows. Stewarding from 7:00 until 1:30 today. Then pack up, load the car and head home. Hoping to get to the last Mass at my local parish.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 06:23 AM (O0L8i)

52 34: commies and socialists are very bad at understanding cause and effect.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 06:24 AM (pKv0r)

53 Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)
=====

Pleeze try pleeze pleeze pleeeeeze!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:25 AM (RIvkX)

54
“I look at Zohran Mamdani and I go: there’s a leader. He made promises and you know what he did? He kept them. He’s lowering rent, he’s building co-op grocery stores, pre-kindergarten. That’s all people care about. He’s really, really good”

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The DSA: today's Tammany Hall

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 06:26 AM (O0L8i)

55 'Bout time to do the Bataan Death March, aka my morning workout. I am carefully avoiding looking up the temp and heat index; I can check them when I get back, and have a retroactive heat stroke.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (wzUl9)

56 The New York Times
1 day ago — Lulu Garcia-Navarro sits down for an interview with the mayor of New York City.

She seems more fair than the NYT generally and more fair than the NYT headlines.

Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)

57 52, I disagree. We may not understand why they want these consequences, but, Marxists clearly do want them.
The Post has an interesting bit on a DSA guy saying landlords don’t have a Constitutional right to double digit returns. He’s right. Investment returns are not in the Constution and as such, the states have authority over investment returns. They know what they are doing.

https://shorturl.at/r3yUq

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:31 AM (sStKZ)

58 Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

59 NYT Mamdani interview (1 hour)

https://tinyurl.com/2knzcbyb

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:35 AM (6wpGE)

60 53 Mamdani now " I am exploring every legal option to see if it is possible to arrest Netanyahu when he comes to NY"
Posted by: Ben Had at July 19, 2026 05:34 AM (abScH)
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Pleeze try pleeze pleeze pleeeeeze!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:25 AM (RIvkX)

"Only Jews are Illegal!" --Mandami, Hitler, and the Muzzies

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:35 AM (l3cgK)

61 58 Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

I thought he was a political commie, not political capitalist...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (l3cgK)

62 It is already 80°

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (ou30A)

63 “Whatever the law allows me to do in New York City, that’s what we will do,” he said.

Which will be nothing. Zohran Mamdani’s obsession is another reminder that anti-Semitism is not just a stray plank in the Democratic Socialists of America’s platform, it is agenda item number one for them, just as it was for the National Socialist Party in Germany.
--PowerLine
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There is no light between DSA and the Democrat party.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (RIvkX)

64 Mandami, Hitler, and the Muzzies. WORST. MUSIC. GROUP. EVA.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (l3cgK)

65 61 58 Zohran Mamdani Knows He Has Political Capital. And He Intends to Spend It.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:29 AM (6wpGE)
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

I thought he was a political commie, not political capitalist...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:36 AM (l3cgK)

haha
good catch

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:37 AM (6wpGE)

66 After reading Dos Passos, I realized the Democrats have been lusting for the destruction of America since the 1880’s.
I think Elaine Luria is opening a new gym somewhere.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:40 AM (ou30A)

67 Yikes.

Gamer's Nexus recommends against the purchase of ALL LG products due to them now installing (without consent) software on your computer, which then leads to other installations (without consent) and ad-ware and mal-ware like behaviour.

https://youtu.be/Q9uefFYe6bM

This takes enshittification to a whole new level.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 06:42 AM (O7YUW)

68 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 19, 2026 06:43 AM (nT/TX)

69 67 Yikes.

Gamer's Nexus recommends against the purchase of ALL LG products due to them now installing (without consent) software on your computer, which then leads to other installations (without consent) and ad-ware and mal-ware like behaviour.

https://youtu.be/Q9uefFYe6bM

This takes enshittification to a whole new level.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 06:42 AM (O7YUW)

Just add those hard drives that were preinstalled with malware and you're all set!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:43 AM (l3cgK)

70 Maybe LG is using call centers in India and Pockeestan as there service centers...the same ones that tell you that you have malware on your computer and they can fix it if you only give them access to your computer...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 06:45 AM (l3cgK)

71 Why does an appliance needs WiFi?
My LG stove was a WiFi bit that shows up on my phone. Fucker won’t ever get connected to anything not 220.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:49 AM (AUlwe)

72 Reading how the Democrats Propaganda Ministry refused to show President Trump's speech but that Biden's Red Speech at Independence Hall was universally covered

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:50 AM (Ia/+0)

73 G'mornin' everyone!

quick coffee before watering the garden(s); gotta do it while it's still cool out.

66 degrees, foggy (I think it's fog and not smoke ... )

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 06:51 AM (VyBeY)

74 72 Reading how the Democrats Propaganda Ministry refused to show President Trump's speech but that Biden's Red Speech at Independence Hall was universally covered
Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 06:50 AM (Ia/+0)

nope

Damin Toell
@damintoell
Jul 16
When Biden gave his primetime Independence Hall address in 2022 (the one with the scary red background that people still post images of), ABC ran Press Your Luck, NBC ran a Law & Order rerun, and CBS ran a Young Sheldon rerun.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (6wpGE)

75 Why does an appliance needs WiFi?
My LG stove was a WiFi bit that shows up on my phone. Fucker won’t ever get connected to anything not 220.
Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:49 AM (AUlwe)
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I recently acquired an automatic litter box (long story).

It is wifi enabled.

WHY?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (FZ29D)

76 @ 66 , I think it started in the 1860s, look at their behavior as the CW proceeded ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (VyBeY)

77 Deadline.com

Broadcast Networks Pass On Carrying Joe Biden’s Primetime Speech — Update

By Ted Johnson
September 1, 2022 2:27pm

https://tinyurl.com/ye4p8vh2

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:59 AM (6wpGE)

78 I guess looking up new vehicles two weeks ago got my phone and into car buying, ads for vehicles and YouTube are popping up constantly.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 07:01 AM (Ia/+0)

79 wi-fi, lol; needed a 12 volt lighting transformer a few weeks ago, only thing the big-box store had was an outdoor model with wi-fi and an app ... I could tell (by the weight) that there was a transformer in there so I bought it, brought it home, used the bandsaw to excise the wi-fi module; it worked like a champ!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 07:02 AM (VyBeY)

80 wup, better get out there! *finishes coffee quickly*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 07:04 AM (VyBeY)

81 The surreal prominence of the Israel issue in domestic politics is due to a poisonous cocktail of factors, including Islamist influence, the dominance of the intersectional left and the West’s loss of its own cultural bearings, including the notion of objective truth.

What’s becoming ever more apparent, however, is that political leaders are scapegoating Israel because things are going wrong for them, both at home and abroad, and they cannot understand why. Refusing to acknowledge what they’re up against, they blame the Jews. - Melanie Phillips
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History rhymes.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:04 AM (RIvkX)

82 75 Why does an appliance needs WiFi?
My LG stove was a WiFi bit that shows up on my phone. Fucker won’t ever get connected to anything not 220.
Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 06:49 AM (AUlwe)
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I recently acquired an automatic litter box (long story).

It is wifi enabled.

WHY?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 06:57 AM (FZ29D)

So you know when your cat poops and pees, and when it is full...
I have one too, but the wifi is not enabled. My son wanted to enable it so that he didn't have to walk the 20 feet to the litter box to check it...laziness has no upper bound...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:06 AM (l3cgK)

83 That your being monitored and tracked is really scary.
Daily asked for reviews of places I go, often not exactly where I go but sometimes next where I go.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 07:06 AM (Ia/+0)

84 @75/"Perfessor" Squirrel: "It { the litterbox } is wifi enabled.

WHY?
"

So the litter-box company can harvest data on how many pets you have. This information can then be sold to data brokers to increase your profile's level of detail. Combined with "dynamic pricing" (where online prices are based on your user profile and what they think they can make you pay.) You may receive advertisement "specials" for litter associated with companies that have partnered with the data brokers, or the maker of your litterbox, which aren't specials at all compared to prices they might offer someone else.

Big stores with electronic price tags right at the location of products on the shelves will likely be the next form of this "dynamic", picking up on your phone's presence and showing you the price associated with your personal data profile (if they already aren't.)

At the grocery I shop at, I need to 'load the app' and 'load my offers' BEFORE I get to the checkout in order to get discounts on products, so yeah, they're tracking my phone, and me, and know what I'm stopping and looking at, and I'm probably already a victim of this predatory-pricing mechanism.

Digital prison.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (O7YUW)

85 So you know when your cat poops and pees, and when it is full...
I have one too, but the wifi is not enabled. My son wanted to enable it so that he didn't have to walk the 20 feet to the litter box to check it...laziness has no upper bound...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:06 AM (l3cgK)

when the litter is full, not your cat...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (l3cgK)

86 Digital prison.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (O7YUW)

Yeah, that's THEIR reason. Your reason is, "Eh, does the litter need changing? I'll check with my phone...don't wanna go to the box and check"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:08 AM (l3cgK)

87 mornin yall. You can't say the Mamdani administration is pointless:

"The Mamdani administration has quietly made permanent a controversial pilot program that pays junkies cash for turning in used needles. $10 for 50 needles.

It’s definitely a side hustle for me. Yeah, definitely!” crowed Tamia Wright, 43, after returning needles at Walter Gladwin Park in The Bronx on Thursday. “Right now, I’m gonna buy some weed and cigarettes.”

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:08 AM (MWfyi)

88 If the gov’t can make you buy insurance, they can make you buy a phone.
Nothing is a coincidence.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 07:10 AM (sStKZ)

89 87 mornin yall. You can't say the Mamdani administration is pointless:

"The Mamdani administration has quietly made permanent a controversial pilot program that pays junkies cash for turning in used needles. $10 for 50 needles.

It’s definitely a side hustle for me. Yeah, definitely!” crowed Tamia Wright, 43, after returning needles at Walter Gladwin Park in The Bronx on Thursday. “Right now, I’m gonna buy some weed and cigarettes.”

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:08 AM (MWfyi)

Exactly. Easy to get needles for much less than $10...just a waste of taxpayer money. It's like the gun "buy-backs" (um, when did the Gov't sell it in the first place?). You have some entrepreneurial types that built some zip guns on the cheap and profited.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 07:12 AM (l3cgK)

90 81 The surreal prominence of the Israel issue in domestic politics is due to a poisonous cocktail of factors, including Islamist influence, the dominance of the intersectional left and the West’s loss of its own cultural bearings, including the notion of objective truth.

What’s becoming ever more apparent, however, is that political leaders are scapegoating Israel because things are going wrong for them, both at home and abroad, and they cannot understand why. Refusing to acknowledge what they’re up against, they blame the Jews. - Melanie Phillips
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History rhymes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:04 AM (RIvkX)

What to do, what to do.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:15 AM (6wpGE)

91 Easy to get needles for much less than $10"

Apparently they are laying around all over the place.

"Too often, used syringes end up in front of schools and children’s parks, and this is an issue that should be treated with the seriousness it deserves,” he said. “We should not recklessly create conditions that can threaten the safety of vulnerable communities.”

They are doing it for the children. And the junkies.

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:16 AM (MWfyi)

92 "just a waste of taxpayer money. "

"The program is being paid for through more than $189 million in settlement funds that the city secured from major opioid manufacturers and distributors"

It's paid for thru higher drug prices for the rest of us.

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (MWfyi)

93 The City is just serving it's electoral base.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (RIvkX)

94 Blast it! It's 6:15 am. Where's the Book Thread?!?!?! It always posts at 6am at home!!! What kind of crazy place is this "Central" land??

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (1tpiU)

95 Blast it! It's 6:15 am. Where's the Book Thread?!?!?! It always posts at 6am at home!!! What kind of crazy place is this "Central" land??
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:18 AM (1tpiU)
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I am on Thread Time too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:20 AM (RIvkX)

96 Yesterday it was mentioned that it was the 50th anniversary of the release of the Z-80. This year is also the 60th anniversary of the Z-28. You could order one mid 1966, and the first one rolled off the line in December 1966.

Posted by: fd at July 19, 2026 07:26 AM (MWfyi)

97 I am on Thread Time too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:20 AM (RIvkX)

All I see around me is corn. Corn corn corn! Walit, is that a baseball game I hear?

Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:27 AM (1tpiU)

98 97 I am on Thread Time too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:20 AM (RIvkX)

All I see around me is corn. Corn corn corn! Walit, is that a baseball game I hear?
Posted by: Time Tunnel OrangeEnt



No. I mean yes! C'mon over!

Posted by: He Who Walks Behind the Rows at July 19, 2026 07:30 AM (sAmhv)

99 Good morning Horde. Thx Pixy.
Exactly who does Mamdani thinks will arrest Netanyahu? If he gave the order Tisch the police commissioner would refuse and probably resign.
The police would then be facing the Secret Service and the FBI and Federal Protection Service. Maybe that's Mamdani's hope , get Tisch to resign and let chaos reign

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 07:32 AM (OXYE0)

100 100

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:32 AM (6wpGE)

101 No. I mean yes! C'mon over!
Posted by: He Who Walks Behind the Rows at July 19, 2026 07:30 AM (sAmhv)

I cannot, for I have no shoes. 🥺

Posted by: Shoeless Joe Time Tunnel OrangeEnt at July 19, 2026 07:35 AM (1tpiU)

102 Digital prison.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant

We've all got a number
It follows us around
Can't get away
They'll track you down
It's out of our hands
It's computer controlled

Posted by: Mystery 00s lyric at July 19, 2026 07:38 AM (XvL8K)

103 The backlash against Amy Coney Barrett on social media is encouraging. I realize it's a pipe dream that she'd be shamed into resigning, but nevertheless.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:45 AM (E2lD7)

104 "Exactly who does Mamdani thinks will arrest Netanyahu? "

CITIZEN'S ARREST! CITIZENS ARREST!

Posted by: Gomer at July 19, 2026 07:46 AM (MWfyi)

105 104 "Exactly who does Mamdani thinks will arrest Netanyahu? "

CITIZEN'S ARREST! CITIZENS ARREST!
Posted by: Gomer at July 19, 2026 07:46 AM (MWfyi)

He wishes!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:46 AM (6wpGE)

106 The backlash against Amy Coney Barrett on social media is encouraging. I realize it's a pipe dream that she'd be shamed into resigning, but nevertheless.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:45 AM (E2lD7)
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Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

107 4 Disclaimer: You're never too old to rock and roll.
Or:
Wikipedia, Grace Slick:

Thankfully - There's RUSH.

Half way through there first Chicago show right now.
I'm set for new live performances for a year if Geddy can hold up.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 19, 2026 07:49 AM (KaHlS)

108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

109 Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

Yes.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (E2lD7)

110 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (2Ez/1)

111 We've all got a number
It follows us around
Can't get away
They'll track you down
It's out of our hands
It's computer controlled


***
Automatic, systematic,
Full of color, self-contained . . .
( -- Jackson 5)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 07:51 AM (wzUl9)

112 108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

... excluding this year's political hopefuls in Maine.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:53 AM (6wpGE)

113 [Grace Slick] said that the main reason she retired from the music business was that "all rock-and-rollers over the age of 50 look stupid and should retire."
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She must have saved her money.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 07:54 AM (BzKNL)

114 The first rule of behavior modification:

Reward behavior you wish to encourage, punish behavior you wish to discourage.

Amy Coney Barrett and Rep. Adam Smith have confessed to violating their oaths of office. But those are just words.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX)

115 >>>Pete Bog, I take it that fruit picking season and deer hunting season don't coincide. Deer, having grazed on apple would be a nice finish.

Posted by: Ben Had

>When hunting season starts all of the apples have fallen off of the tree and the lay in the yard and ferment. The deer know and they come and eat the fruit and get fat and get intoxicated. It's easier to harvest a deer when he's drunk.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 19, 2026 07:54 AM (sYM3s)

116 "Reward behavior you wish to encourage, punish behavior you wish to discourage."

WOO HOO!

Posted by: Tamia Wright at July 19, 2026 07:55 AM (MWfyi)

117 Per Bongina Report, over 850k New Yorkers collected 2.6 billion in welfare payments last year.

Posted by: A City On The Brink at July 19, 2026 07:57 AM (45BvE)

118 Just got back from Walmart, where they decided for no apparent reason to rearrange all their frozen goods, inconveniencing not only their regular in-store shoppers, but also the Walmart associates who are gathering groceries for online shoppers.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 07:58 AM (FZ29D)

119 Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

Yes.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (E2lD7)

How? How can you coerce a vote? Maybe release info showing fraudulent adoptions? No that can't be it.

Posted by: Some Chief Justice Somewhere at July 19, 2026 07:59 AM (1tpiU)

120 ====

Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Whoa! What? Help me with this. I missed it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 07:59 AM (BzKNL)

121
81 The surreal prominence of the Israel issue in domestic politics is due to a poisonous cocktail of factors, including Islamist influence, the dominance of the intersectional left and the West’s loss of its own cultural bearings, including the notion of objective truth.”

I find it irritating that so many people, mostly the Israel haters but also some Israeli supporters blindly assume that this war is about Israel.

The entire framing of the issue is foolish - the war isn’t about Israel at all. Iran and Israel certainly hate each other, and hit each other whenever they can, but that’s a sideshow to what’s actually being fought over.

The cause of the war is Iran’s determination to build a huge missile capacity and obtain nuclear weapons so that it can hold all the middle eastern states hostage to its demands, and thus gain effective control of *all* oil supplies from the Middle East.

This plan, if allowed to be carried out, would transform Iran from a regional headache into one of the most powerful criminal states in the world. They should have been stopped years ago; they *have* to be stopped now. This is why this is *not* a war of choice; it is a war of necessity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:01 AM (SmTu7)

122 I wouldn't be surprised to seeing Coney Barrett resign. She seemed genuinely upset about threats against her family. She's been somewhat disappointing so I wouldn't be put out if she keft

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:04 AM (OXYE0)

123 Whoa! What? Help me with this. I missed it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 07:59 AM (BzKNL)
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I forgot where I saw it but showed her votes have gotten more liberal after the post-Dobbs protests at her home.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 08:04 AM (RIvkX)

124 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:01 AM (SmTu7)
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This is because the Israelis are bloodthirsty. -Vice President J.D. Vance

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 08:06 AM (RIvkX)

125 phones and tablets such that consumers will only be able to rent them. "

Ahem.
/ATT, T mobile, Verizon....

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:06 AM (XuXeR)

126 106 The backlash against Amy Coney Barrett on social media is encouraging. I realize it's a pipe dream that she'd be shamed into resigning, but nevertheless.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 07:45 AM (E2lD7)
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Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

I don't know the story, but a coerced vote is still a vote. It's on her.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:07 AM (6wpGE)

127 ====

I forgot where I saw it but showed her votes have gotten more liberal after the post-Dobbs protests at her home.

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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OK, saw a bit about her having to explain to her kids on putting the vest on every day. - Her heart is 'I didn't sign up for this'.
Well honey, being an American is a bitch. Bitch up and help pass laws thwarting these people or resign.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:09 AM (BzKNL)

128 =====

This is because the Israelis are bloodthirsty. -Vice President J.D. Vance

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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He goes on and on, he can't tighten up, he belongs in congress.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (BzKNL)

129
108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

His mother was a Bollywood star, I believe. He’s been raised around slick video and performative behavior his entire life, it’s his only real talent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (SmTu7)

130 117 Per Bongina Report, over 850k New Yorkers collected 2.6 billion in welfare payments last year.
Posted by: A City On The Brink at July 19, 2026 07:57 AM
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It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (2Ez/1)

131 Vance is one slick character. You'll see triangulation skills form him in the next couple of years that will make Clinton look like a picker.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (E2lD7)

132 at about 56:00

interviewer: "You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

Mamdani: "Thank you."

?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (6wpGE)

133 Like a piker.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (E2lD7)

134 129
108 In this interview, Mamdani is rehearsed and performative. Which I guess is standard for a certain category of politician.
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 07:50 AM (6wpGE)

His mother was a Bollywood star, I believe. He’s been raised around slick video and performative behavior his entire life, it’s his only real talent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (SmTu7)

Oh. That could explain a lot!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:14 AM (6wpGE)

135 >>>Clinton look like a picker.

he's a picker, he's a smoker, he's a midnight poke 'er.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:15 AM (BzKNL)

136 OK, saw a bit about her having to explain to her kids on putting the vest on every day. - Her heart is 'I didn't sign up for this'.

That must take awhile seeing how her trophy children are from all over the globe...

Posted by: Does She Speak Click-Clack? at July 19, 2026 08:16 AM (45BvE)

137
Any Boney Carrot.

Posted by: Someone has to type it at July 19, 2026 08:17 AM (2Ez/1)

138 135 >>>Clinton look like a picker.

he's a picker, he's a smoker, he's a midnight poke 'er.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 08:15 AM (BzKNL)

I'm a-pickin'
And I'm a-grinnin'

HeeHaw

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:18 AM (6wpGE)

139 Keft , no left . Damn hot dog fingers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:18 AM (OXYE0)

140 >>At the grocery I shop at, I need to 'load the app' and 'load my offers' BEFORE I get to the checkout in order to get discounts on products, so yeah, they're tracking my phone, and me, and know what I'm stopping and looking at, and I'm probably already a victim of this predatory-pricing mechanism.

Digital prison.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 19, 2026 07:07 AM (O7YUW)

The mark of the beast will be (is) starting with carrots. The sticks will come later. Discounts and other benefits are the carrots. No mark? No treats. Punishment will follow eventually.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 19, 2026 08:18 AM (IhL8c)

141 59 NYT Mamdani interview (1 hour)

https://tinyurl.com/2knzcbyb
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 06:35 AM (6wpGE)

I watched it. Probably worth doing.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:19 AM (6wpGE)

142 >>@121: Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:01 AM (SmTu7)
*****
Excellent analysis. This is why, IMO, the arab states are pretty quiet about this (I think) because they know Iran is crazy and is constantly trying to upset the whole table; like the freakin paleostinians always keep trying to do. The arabs don't like the Iranians and loath the paleostinians, the gulf states want 1 thing, make mo money. That said, none of them are our friends and will turn on us in a heart beat, but thenvagain look at our besties in europe. Add to this, squeezing chy-nahs beans using oil is an additional perk for us.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:19 AM (4UmNf)

143 interviewer: "You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

Mamdani: "Thank you."

?
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (6wpGE)
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In Leftist world, being elected to a powerful office is a major accomplishment.

He's only been in office a few months. What, exactly, has he achieved that will be beneficial to NYC over the long term?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 08:20 AM (FZ29D)

144 Pretty soon we'll see ads like the ones that popped up around Tom Cruise in Minority Report. All your information on your likes and dislikes will lead to ads immediately directed specifically at you as you walk through a store (if stores still exist)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:21 AM (OXYE0)

145 143 interviewer: "You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

Mamdani: "Thank you."

?
Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:13 AM (6wpGE)
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In Leftist world, being elected to a powerful office is a major accomplishment.

He's only been in office a few months. What, exactly, has he achieved that will be beneficial to NYC over the long term?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 19, 2026 08:20 AM (FZ29D)

I found it an odd and foreign-sounding response.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:22 AM (6wpGE)

146 Nations don't have friends. They have interests.

Posted by: Foreign Policy 101 at July 19, 2026 08:23 AM (2Ez/1)

147 ****thenvagain***
=then again. I read this twice and missed it. I really am a moron and not in a good AoS way.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:24 AM (4UmNf)

148 This is because the Israelis are bloodthirsty. -Vice President J.D. Vance
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 19, 2026 08:06 AM (RIvkX)

Short version of a longer case; Vance is criticizing Israel because he doesn’t dare attack Rubio openly. Marco Rubio is the one who curbstomped all of Vance’s dreams of doing international diplomacy and looking Presidential, when he destroyed the MOU with the Israel-Lebanon-US agreement.

Trump said something casually a couple days ago, which was really fascinating. Some writer for a design magazine or website was in the White House, asking him about his redecorating. She asked a silly question; “you’ve done so much to personalize and redecorate the Oval Office; will it make you feel sad to see your successor change it all?”

Trump’s shocking answer: “Ah, no he won’t. Cubans love a lot of gold.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:25 AM (SmTu7)

149 Phone still has no mobile data available

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:26 AM (Ia/+0)

150 @143 he hasn't done any good for the quality of life, but he sure helped get a lot of DSA critters elected.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:26 AM (OXYE0)

151 I wouldn't be surprised to seeing Coney Barrett resign. She seemed genuinely upset about threats against her family. She's been somewhat disappointing so I wouldn't be put out if she keft
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026


***
As long as Trump can get in someone a little to the right of Roger B. Taney. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 19, 2026 08:26 AM (wzUl9)

152 Am I the only one watching golf?

Posted by: dantesed at July 19, 2026 08:31 AM (Oy/m2)

153 Open Source Intel @Osint613
10m JUST IN 🔴

Israel says it detected missiles launched from Iran toward Aqaba, Jordan, which could result in shrapnel falling inside Israeli territory.

Air raid sirens may sound in southern Israel. The Home Front Command says there is currently no change to public safety instructions.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 08:33 AM (w2sCY)

154 If Barrett resigns (nearly inconceivable), the expectation would be for Trump to select another woman. This is the problem. Unless he goes for Barbara Lagoa, a finalist last time and heads and shoulders above the mousy mediocrity Barrett.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (E2lD7)

155 Her heart is 'I didn't sign up for this'."

The cry of every soon to be pregnant aboard ship...

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (XuXeR)

156 @152 I have it on. The weather has been great this week. Birkdale is tough and when the weather is bad it's a nightmare. That's why the leaders are -10 and -9

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (OXYE0)

157 Am I the only one watching golf?

Posted by: dantesed at July 19, 2026 08:31 AM (Oy/m2)
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/claps

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (w2sCY)

158 dantseed as I don't want to take a nap have no reason to watch golf.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (Ia/+0)

159 Yes.

Posted by: Men's Metric Kickball fans at July 19, 2026 08:34 AM (2Ez/1)

160 Am I the only one watching golf?
Posted by: dantesed
_________

I'm not turning it on till the leaders tee off. Live odds (betting $100 gets you this amount):

Sam Burns +144

Si Woo Kim +490

Ryan Fox +830

Scottie Scheffler +1150

Bryson DeChambeau +1550

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 19, 2026 08:37 AM (XvL8K)

161 Good morning.
Late in the Prayer Thread this is what Brother Tim posted -- he really needs prayer, and what else, I don't know. But I know prayer is heard and answered.

Mornin' Horde. Black dog barkin' lately as he does when things get hard. Housing plan failed. Trying to find a better paying job I fit with has been frustrating. Same old same old, I guess.

Started asking the Lord not for relief, but release. Probably not a good sign.

Hope y'all are doing better than I.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18,

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 19, 2026 08:37 AM (4VH0B)

162 long as Trump can get in someone a little to the right of Roger B. Taney. . . ."

Well, the Hamilton class were all pretty good...

/oh

Posted by: man at July 19, 2026 08:38 AM (XuXeR)

163
"You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

_________

Like Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. For what?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 08:38 AM (UU6Zb)

164 163
"You are considered now to be one of the most successful politicians."

_________

Like Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. For what?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2026 08:38 AM (UU6Zb)

And then, continuing that excellent analogy, this was a NYT interviewer.

"You have won the Nobel Prize."
"Thank you."

?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:42 AM (6wpGE)

165 How to say you paid for the interview without saying you paid for the interview.

Posted by: With other people's money at July 19, 2026 08:42 AM (2Ez/1)

166 "Thank you for slipping that high mark into the interview"?

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:43 AM (6wpGE)

167 Missed prayer thread and everything yesterday

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:44 AM (Ia/+0)

168 165 How to say you paid for the interview without saying you paid for the interview.
Posted by: With other people's money at July 19, 2026 08:42 AM (2Ez/1)

ha!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 08:44 AM (6wpGE)

169 Obama was pretty good at reading a speech as long as the teleprompter was functioning properly.
Of course if it ever went out he was like a dummy without the ventriloquist.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 19, 2026 08:45 AM (Lo97M)

170 You know who else was a successful politician?

Posted by: Gomer at July 19, 2026 08:45 AM (MWfyi)

171 I thought about watching golf, but instead turned on Soothing Ocean Music for some background noise. Same thing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 08:46 AM (SmTu7)

172 Getting a new Crome update available since yesterday yet can't figure out how to update, wonder if thats its problem

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2026 08:46 AM (Ia/+0)

173 Boy, haven't Bari Weiss's reforms at CBS been impressive?

No figure more over-hyped by the Right since Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:47 AM (E2lD7)

174 Bad news. Crome is cheap Chinese spyware.

Posted by: Google Chrome at July 19, 2026 08:49 AM (2Ez/1)

175 Bookz.

Posted by: The Illiterate Noodist at July 19, 2026 08:53 AM (2Ez/1)

176 "Crome is cheap Chinese spyware."

well, to be fair, what isn't, these days ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 08:54 AM (VyBeY)

177 This is why this is *not* a war of choice; it is a war of necessity.

Lots of Narrative Choices here:
• Israel! Israel! Israel!
• MIC! MIC! MIC!
• IMEC 2.0 vs BRI
• Russia/Ukraine style patty-cake "war" to keep a live testing lab for advanced weapons systems
• 4D Chess to neuter Iran Nuke Program
• Retaliation for nearly 50 years of terrorism
• ???
• Profit!

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 08:56 AM (a4flb)

178 >>>No figure more over-hyped by the Right since Paul Ryan.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2026 08:47 AM (E2lD7)
***
Jeezz. Every time I manage to forget about that duplicitous, lying, back stabbing, POS there he is. I see his mentor Jabba The Bennett is still us (spit)!

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:57 AM (4UmNf)

179 Eugyppius, Weis and Berenson are worried that their class might get the wrong idea and discredit their status. I always wondered if Bjorn Lomborg was the same way.

Posted by: Accomack at July 19, 2026 08:58 AM (/Chlc)

180 Is this about her inadvertent confession she has been coerced into voting against her own legal analysis?

Perhaps. She essentially said that terrorism works to get the political results you want

Posted by: Community Notes at July 19, 2026 08:59 AM (a4flb)

181 ***among us*** See my post above about me being an idiot. I'm out, have a great book thread!

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 19, 2026 08:59 AM (4UmNf)

182 nood!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 19, 2026 09:02 AM (VyBeY)

183 No Book Thread here. Pantsless, happy, and isn't reading fiction essentially condoning lying?

Posted by: Penguin Promotion Board at July 19, 2026 09:21 AM (JM9I6)

184 Just want to say that Mamdami's mommy was not a Bollywood star. She made a movie called "Monsoon Wedding" that was set in India but it was not Bollywood type movie. Aishwarya Rai was Bollywood star.

Posted by: Glenn at July 19, 2026 09:49 AM (vneJl)

Saturday Night Club ONT - July 18, 2026 [Disco & Dino]

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Welcome to Club ONT - a collaboration of The Disco and The Dino. We built this place for you so you can have some fun. Come in in, grab a drink or 3. Keep it light and friendly. Jerks need not enter the premises (the moose out front is keeping track and you do NOT want to disappoint the moose).

[Top photo: the bar at Fraunces Tavern, New York City. The oldest surviving building in New York.]

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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

The teacher gave her fifth grade class an assignment: Get their parents to tell them a story with a moral at the end of it.

The next day, the kids came back and, one by one, began to tell their stories. There were all the regular types of stuff: Spilled milk and pennies saved. But then the teacher realized, that only Janie was left.

"Janie, do you have a story to share?"

"Yes ma'am. My daddy told me a story about my Mommy. She was a Marine pilot in Desert Storm, and her plane got hit. She had to bail out over enemy territory, and all she had was a flask of whiskey, a pistol, and a survival knife.

She drank the whiskey on the way down so the bottle wouldn't break, and then she parachuted right into the middle of 20 Iraqi troops.

She shot 15 of them with the pistol, until she ran out of bullets, killed four more with the knife, till the blade broke, and then she killed the last Iraqi with her bare hands."

"Good Heavens," said the horrified teacher. "What did your Daddy tell you was the moral to this horrible story?"

"Don't mess with Mommy when she's been drinking."

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Drink of the Night

Tonight we drew the 7 of spades from our deck of playing card cocktails

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Club ONT Department of Home Remodeling

Pole dancing accident floods two Houston apartments

A Houston woman said she is done practicing pole dancing at home after a mishap led to two apartments being flooded.

Asha Gilbert was filming her pole dancing practice July 6 at her west Houston apartment when the pole came loose from the ceiling and struck a fire sprinkler.

Gilbert said she had only installed the pole three days earlier.

"It wasn't even a thought that it could possibly hit the sprinkler," Gilbert said. "We were more worried about it hitting a wall."

She said her furniture was ruined and she had to move to another unit due to the damage. Gilbert said her downstairs neighbor was understanding about the water damage.

"I explained everything, and she was very, very cool and understanding, and I appreciated that," Gilbert said.

She said she will not be pole dancing at home anymore.

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Club ONT Department of Bonanza History

Dan Blocker's horse off camera was a mini-bike.

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Club ONT Department of the Misplaced Emu

Mystery emu on the loose in Mississippi

Animal control officers are trying to find the owner of an emu on the loose in Mississippi's Pearl River County.

A witness captured video of the flightless Australian bird wandering this week near Pea Ridge Road.

Pearl River County Animal Control confirmed Wednesday that the emu remained on the loose, and its origins were unknown.

Officials are asking anyone with information on the emu's owner or current whereabouts to contact local authorities.

Any among the Horde missing your Emu?

*****

Club ONT Department of Oklahoma Geography

There is a Disney, Oklahoma? Who knew?

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According to the town website:

Disney is situated in northeastern Mayes County at the east end of Pensacola Dam on State Highway 28. The town is named after former Oklahoma U.S. Congressman Wesley E. Disney and has no affiliation with The Walt Disney Company or Walt Disney.

Disney is renowned worldwide for its vehicle rock climbing, off-road trails, and adventure activities. Within the city limits are five recreation areas of Cherokee State Park, offering off-road rock climbing, trails, and mudding for off-road vehicles. Visitors can also enjoy camping, swimming, picnicking, boating, fishing, skiing, and kayaking. Many off-road event attendees also spend time fishing, boating, or kayaking on the water.

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Club ONT Movie Night: X-15 Documentary



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Club ONT Jukebox



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Club ONT is brought to you by: Club approved attire

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Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

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1 Good evening morons and Слава Двоим!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM (RIvkX)

2 Howdy, Ds!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 18, 2026 10:01 PM (kOluj)

3 You youngsters don't remember when Fraunces' Tavern was bombed by leftists.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:01 PM (RIvkX)

4 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:03 PM (zZu0s)

5
Lol at the clothes!

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 10:03 PM (/QHx4)

6 Drink of the Night

Less-boozy, more-chocolatey Mudslide?

For the sorority girl who wants something sessionable.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:04 PM (VHUov)

7 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 18, 2026 10:04 PM (+9wcF)

8 Evening all,

I hope you are all doing well!

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:04 PM (2F0/Y)

9 Oh. Hi.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:05 PM (ok2JK)

10 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2026 10:05 PM (IUQak)

11
Hey I got a Top Ten-ish
you like me
YOU REALLY LIKE ME
I'M SOMEBODY NOW

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)

12 Well, I know how to fix something that's out of whack.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (sKqQm)

13 Woo hoo!

Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (lCppi)

14 Sorry I'm late, I was trying to find the 10mm socket.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (GX6fr)

15 the emu remained on the loose, and its origins were unknown.

-
News blurbs are made by fools like you
But only God can make an emu

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (ndZc7)

16 I'M SOMEBODY NOW
Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)


Navin R. Johnson has entered the chat

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:07 PM (+sTu6)

17 Two comments in the top 10-ish- this is as close as I'll ever get to a Nobel Prize.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (GX6fr)

18 Lol at the clothes!
Posted by: four seasons


You know those are formal athletic socks because they don't have the three colored bands at the top.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (VHUov)

19
Lol mikeski

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (/QHx4)

20 The last photo is hilarious.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:08 PM (zZu0s)

21 Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (ZxPkt)
=====

Never let them see you sweat.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:09 PM (RIvkX)

22 Way ast my bedtime
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 10:09 PM (Ia/+0)

23 How about those ties? Very groovy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:09 PM (RIvkX)

24 Ill admit I 've never before seen that type of mens shorts worn with knee high socks and a tie.

I may have been better off.

Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (lCppi)

25 Evenin'

Disney, Oklahoma looks to be in the Ozarks. The western edge of the Ozarks anyway.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (jrKun)

26 Hello friends! I just saw Saijo on the pet thread with the other cutie animals! Thank you!

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (Dd38x)

27 Those guys with the fashion ties have got the Berb Tarlek look down to a science

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (l+3gx)

28 The correct word is of course "Wisent".

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (gKWVE)

29 Sits down in a dark corner to scope out the room

Posted by: mindful webworker - this corner smells odd at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (p+5Bi)

30 Not sure anyone here is interested, but Walmart's Marketside has a really nice curry chicken salad. We add hard boiled eggs and chutney to it. Delicious!

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (2F0/Y)

31 Two comments in the top 10-ish- this is as close as I'll ever get to a Nobel Prize.
Posted by: tankdemon


* standing ovation *

And both under your own nic. I think all my two-fers sneaked in wearing a sockpuppet.

I just got one assist this week. Keeping my point total up, I guess.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (VHUov)

32 Any among the Horde missing your Emu?

You might want to check with the Moon Nukers at IMAO.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:12 PM (GX6fr)

33 Lech Wałęsa dancing > Asha Gilbert dancing

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (dIske)

34 and those two dudes are standing within what for me would be my personal space.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (gKWVE)

35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)

36 I just wandered in briefly and am speechless with the fashion shorts.

One of our neighbors mows his lawn in black knee socks. He's weird but no problems for nine years. I assume he has circulation problems but I haven't asked.

It is hot and we need rain. That's my report. Carry on.

Also, I do not like that martini glass because it looks like a coral snake.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (hzuYO)

37 Thanks for the ONT! Very nice! Happy to report that I survived the Tornado warning, flood warning, and air quality warning for today.

Posted by: Iris at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (286+n)

38 and those two dudes are standing within what for me would be my personal space.
Posted by: gKWVE

"Theeyyyyyy are lumberjacks and that's okay!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (IUQak)

39 * waves to Iris*

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (abScH)

40 Good evening morons and Слава Двоим!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM

*raises glass*

на здоровье!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (Wnv9h)

41 Just made an Old Fashioned. Not bad. Main challenges are ridiculous, and trivial. Bought some measured-pour spouts (actually just wanted metal spouts to pour wine without drips, but all they had were these plastic bartender measured-pour thinggies). Probably me, but I didn't trust the "1 oz" spout, seemed like it was dispensing too much bourbon, so I sorta cut it short. But, two pours (2 oz total was goal), so poured again.

Drink seems fine, didn't short myself too much booze.

Other problem is annoying. The bitters bottle's little dispenser thinggy flings bitters wildly around when I tilt it upside down to dispense my "dashes". That stuff stains worse than fresh cherry juice, amazing. Hoping my next bottle will work normally, and as seen on TV (well, on UToob, and in bars).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (U/Byj)

42 Royal Highland Show

Toilets for Competition Use only


.....they ran out of cabers?

Posted by: macmikeski at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (VHUov)

43 **Waves back**

Posted by: Iris at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (286+n)

44 Wait.
I was told it was The Tankdemon.

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (fRFTM)

45 It's only a matter of time before the emu starts recruiting other wildfowl.
We mammals had a good run. You maniacs. Damn you all to hell

Posted by: PLANET OF THE DUCKS at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (gKWVE)

46 I assume parents hate the kid they name 'Francis.' I can't fathom the utter revulsion one must have to name him 'Fraunces'.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (diia5)

47 24 Ill admit I 've never before seen that type of mens shorts worn with knee high socks and a tie.

I may have been better off.
Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 10:10 PM (lCppi)

Looks like a middle school gym teacher on picture day.

Posted by: Bilwis - at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (w/O5Q)

48 I don't remember seeing men dressed like that. Who wore a stupid ugly tie with shorts? Musta been a Yankee thing.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (bqIVz)

49 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)
_____________________________

In the 70's I was a kid living across the street from the main campus of a college. I'm betting I saw more boobs than most at that tender young age. Because the 70's gave us drunk, female STREAKERS. That alone is enough to miss those days.

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (dIske)

50 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2026 10:15 PM (Wnv9h)

*clinks*

*smashes glass into the fireplace*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (RIvkX)

51 >>>Any among the Horde missing your Emu?

Alex the Chick. But she's not missing it, it just escaped from the box

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (rbvCR)

52 Disney, Oklahoma looks to be in the Ozarks.


I'll say NO. It's right next to the lake and I think (I am no expert) that would be out of the formal Ozarks. Hilly? Yes.

Posted by: LRob in OK at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (Jr+re)

53 Thanks for the dandy Saturday Night ONT, Disco and Dino!

Those summer "business" shorts are beyond parody. And they were beyond parody back in the 70s!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 18, 2026 10:20 PM (D/6p1)

54 Missing my emu? No, shot the damned messy thing.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 10:20 PM (abScH)

55 44 Wait.
I was told it was The Tankdemon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (fRFTM)

Slanderous untruths! Fake news! Disinformation!

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (GX6fr)

56 That Lindsey Buckingham song was during his fag error. I did recognized Mick Fleetwood on drums and can plainly see why Stevie fooled around with him at one point and ticked Lindsey off.

The "black Irish" look of black hair and blue eyes was the man of my dreams when I was young. Instead the two college guys I ever loved were blondes with blue or green eyes. The green eyed guy won me over and we produced green eyed sons.

I still like men with black hair and blue eyes. Mel Gibson remains on my list, altho he needs to lose his white beard.

Apparently way back in my ancestry DNA I was an Irish lass who fell in love with a pirate on the Spanish Armada.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (hzuYO)

57 No, shot the damned messy thing.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 10:20 PM (abScH)

Good on ya, sheila.

Posted by: Australian Defence Force at July 18, 2026 10:22 PM (gKWVE)

58 55 44 Wait.
I was told it was The Tankdemon.
Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:16 PM (fRFTM)

Slanderous untruths! Fake news! Disinformation!
Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (GX6fr)

I’d best ask The Duncanthrax.

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:23 PM (fRFTM)

59 All you people with Cyrillic Privilege. Sort of thing that leads to revolutions by the great unwashed.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 10:23 PM (U/Byj)

60 Continued from the Music thread - the Beach Boys flamed out early, it was a complicated arrangement with their father Murray, who was a bit of a whack job. Brian fired him, and learned to use the studio, and hot shot studio musicians, like an instrument.

But Brian got heavily into drugs, and wouldn’t go on tour, and got really weird. I don’t think they even hardly charted much of anything past 1966. “Good Vibrations” and “God Only Knows” were great tunes but they didn’t have another hit until “Kokomo” in what, 1977? And Brian didn’t have anything to do with that. They were scheduled I think to play the Monetary Pop Festival in ‘67 but they just weren’t considered cool any longer, and if you can’t chart a groovy tune, maybe they were right.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:24 PM (WcNzu)

61 Because the 70's gave us drunk, female STREAKERS. That alone is enough to miss those days.
Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 10:18 PM (dIske)


My first trip to London was a college English Lit course in 1974. Every single pup I went to the bartender and/or a Brit guy asked me to streak. I would always say no and at one point I told them to stop asking me as I am hearing this every day.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:25 PM (hzuYO)

62 I would always say no and at one point I told them to stop asking me as I am hearing this every day.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

"So you're telling me there's a chance?"

Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2026 10:26 PM (IUQak)

63 but they didn’t have another hit until “Kokomo” in what, 1977?

Double typo?

1988.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:26 PM (VHUov)

64 Pro-tip: avoid Qeshm Island, and Hormozgan county in general, for your summer seaside vacation this year. Sure your dollar goes farther than anywhere else on earth, but there are, um, issues at the moment.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (U/Byj)

65 60 but they didn’t have another hit until “Kokomo” in what, 1977?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:24 PM (WcNzu)

It was about a decade later than that.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (GX6fr)

66 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)

You didn’t like all the college girls in tube tops and short shorts? Really?

Yeah men looked like weird bums, but who cared.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (l+3gx)

67 In a good range of styles indeed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (Cqx++)

68 Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

Oh, and light a match when you're done, will ya? Just be careful, we leave the rocketry to SpaceX and the explosions to Blue Origin.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 18, 2026 10:28 PM (zom6H)

69 Apparently way back in my ancestry DNA I was an Irish lass who fell in love with a pirate on the Spanish Armada.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
----

Obviously.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:28 PM (JS6jE)

70 Yeah men looked like weird bums, but who cared.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:27 PM (l+3gx)

Its not like we can understand why the hell women find us attractive in the first place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (zZu0s)

71 Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)

Ah think you're sufferin' from a... crahsis o' spirit...

Posted by: Jimmah Cahtah at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (gKWVE)

72 Only the rich kids had minibikes. A hundred and twenty bucks would have been like two mortgage payments for my folks at that time.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 10:30 PM (vTZFs)

73 Great coastal storm tonight. Seeing nature do its thing is awesome.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:30 PM (viF8m)

74 It's no secret.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ro3UDpQZXQ

1

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (JS6jE)

75 Heh - Trump is mucho PISSED OFF tonight because 2 servicemen were killed. I’m not laughing because of the deaths, that’s tragic, but at the way that the Iranians are gonna find out that they’ve never seen really pissed off Donald Trump before.

They shouldn’t have made him angry. They won’t like him when he’s angry.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (l+3gx)

76 In this photo, we see TRex photobombing someone. Who might it be?

https://tinyurl.com/mvftkkf5

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (qx7Zg)

77 70 Its not like we can understand why the hell women find us attractive in the first place.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (zZu0s)

In my dating days, women seemed to find me more attractive when I increased the size of my wallet.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (GX6fr)

78 Never mind....hi Dsl
!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (ok2JK)

79 Its not like we can understand why the hell women find us attractive in the first place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM
***
I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?

Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)

80 If you disappoint the moose, he calls in his friend, the grandpa-tossing bison.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (qx7Zg)

81
Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

I better not run 'find in page' and locate 'paid my dime and only farted'.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (QVmho)

82 ONT

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 18, 2026 10:33 PM (WL2lA)

83 "The oldest surviving building in New York."

Not even close. There is a building in Brooklyn that dates to the 1650s! Wyckoff House, or something like that. I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (l4RKn)

84 78 Never mind....hi Dsl
!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM
***
Howdy!

Posted by: TRex - oh hi dino at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (XfIK1)

85 Today I bought a used ratchet fruit press. I didn't intend to buy it, but there it was at the Re-Store for less than 200. It is missing the spanners to hold it together, but everything else is there.
I no longer have to repair my cobbled together press that I have been building, incrementally, for 15 years, and now I just have to work with this one
The main drawback is that it will hold about 20 gallons of fruit pulp, instead of 5 gallons like the old press. So now the bottleneck in production is once again the grinding up of the apples.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (rbvCR)

86 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

87 I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?
Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)

TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (tez/p)

88 Evening, ONT Horde! And Disco and Dino, of course! Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch. Looks good, too. Mowed around the house and shop, too. Had a big wreck. I had hitched the golf cart to my large rolling table to shift it aside to mow where it had been sitting, and got it rolling too fast, and it slammed into a metal barrel, and the discarded truck box full of scrap metal. Half the stuff on the table landed on the ground, or in the scrap metal bin. Took me several hours to get it back to Square One, LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (1z8ji)

89 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (y171U)

90 66 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal
---

She looked like Doris Day and loved me too much.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (JS6jE)

91 83 "The oldest surviving building in New York."

Not even close. There is a building in Brooklyn that dates to the 1650s! Wyckoff House, or something like that. I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 10:34 PM (l4RKn)

It's not the oldest building, but it is the oldest tavern in NYC.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 18, 2026 10:37 PM (0CU3H)

92 Sesame Street was good

Posted by: gKWVE doesn't remember a lot of the 70s at July 18, 2026 10:37 PM (gKWVE)

93 87 TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM
***
Not in a military venue or sense of the word.

Posted by: TRex - under the radar dino at July 18, 2026 10:38 PM (XfIK1)

94 I detassled corn one summer and spent $65 on a used mini-bike about that time. It was s lot of fun. My buddy Jeff found an old Garelli and he tooled that around till he crashed and broke his collarbone. This appears to be painful. I was more careful after that.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:38 PM (WcNzu)

95 >>Not even close. There is a building in Brooklyn that dates to the 1650s! Wyckoff House, or something like that. I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.

Welcome, new comer.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:38 PM (viF8m)

96
Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch.

Beware the Ides of July!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 10:39 PM (Cqx++)

97 NFL and MLB were pretty awesome in the 70s. Much better than today

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (QMAsf)

98 Apparently way back in my ancestry DNA I was an Irish lass who fell in love with a pirate on the Spanish Armada.

My Irish ancestors were named "Carlos", and there was never much of a long reach across the Bay of Biscay

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (rbvCR)

99 75 Heh - Trump is mucho PISSED OFF tonight...
They shouldn’t have made him angry. They won’t like him when he’s angry.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (l+3gx)

Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (y171U)

100 next door Big City decided tokens for BR stalls were discrimination. ABSOLUTELY. Pay toilets are clean.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (JS6jE)

101 88 Evening, ONT Horde! And Disco and Dino, of course! Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch. Looks good, too. Mowed around the house and shop, too. Had a big wreck.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM
***
I'm not laughing at you, but your wreck description sounds like absolute Three Stooges-style chaos.

Posted by: TRex - wrecking yard dino at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (XfIK1)

102 I loved the '70's and don't understand why carburetors are being picked on in that statement.

I loved men with beards and long hair, the beer and the music, concerts, and freedom to have fun as no one ever seemed insulted or offended. I had so much fun! Granted I also did not care if anyone was offended or notice, so there's that.

There was some trick to start cars by pouring gasoline on the carburetor, or that was what I understood as I never did it.

My bf/husband and a good friend started a girl's new car on fire this way. This is how they rescued the damsel in distress his friend had just seen in a bar, stranded in the parking lot (I was at my apt studying).

My bf said the hood paint basically melted, but that's what she gets for letting two strange college guys help her who were leaving the bar.

He drove her home and said the main person who started the car on fire was making out with her in the back seat; so all was forgiven til she had to tell her father.

We don't know the outcome of that event. Granted, John, being 1/2 Navajo and 1/2 Mexican could woo even girls he'd just set their car on fire, so there's that.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:40 PM (hzuYO)

103 I did a Brave AI search on World Cup Finals. It hallucinated that Spain beat Argentina 1-0.
Except that the game takes place tomorrow.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 10:41 PM (gKWVE)

104 Only the rich kids had minibikes. A hundred and twenty bucks would have been like two mortgage payments for my folks at that time.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 10:30 PM (vTZFs)

I had one as young teenager in West Vancouver. Family was not rich, but my Dad was in the small engine business and got hold of one with no engine. We fitted it with a Tecumseh engine and centrifugal clutch. I rode the thing up a trail to the top of Hollyburn Mountain. No problem. Coming back down was interesting. No suspension, but it had brakes. And got massive blisters on both hands on the webs between my thumbs and index fingers. Ouch!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:41 PM (1z8ji)

105 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?
Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:36 PM (y171U)
* * * *
Took me a minute to figure that one out. It's referring to the length of the shorts. As if a man would wear 3 inch long shorts into a business office back in the 70s. Sheesh.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 18, 2026 10:41 PM (D/6p1)

106
Ah think you're sufferin' from a... crahsis o' spirit...

Posted by: Jimmah Cahtah at July 18, 2026 10:29 PM (gKWVE)

Malaise, I remember that. And my dad so disappointed in Carter that he never voted Democrat again.

Posted by: moki at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (wLjpr)

107 I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?
Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)
TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?
Posted by: RI Red
********
Just noticing you didn't ask about the small brain inspection...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (XfIK1)

108 Sesame Street was good
Posted by: gKWVE doesn't remember a lot of the 70s at July 18, 2026 10:37 PM (gKWVE)


The Electric Company was even better.

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (QMAsf)

109
Christy,

You have the best stories.

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (/QHx4)

110 I live right next to a small town named after Pieter Wyckoff.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I would not have wanted to be him in grade school.

"Your name is peter whackoff?!?!"

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:43 PM (VHUov)

111 99 75 Heh - Trump is mucho PISSED OFF tonight...
They shouldn’t have made him angry. They won’t like him when he’s angry.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 10:31 PM (l+3gx)

Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

Posted by: Joemarine
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Wish they had screwed up a few more times allowing more median brains to wrap around what's going on and not the lies put out by the MSM. To bad, they are getting up to speed the hard way.
So is the IRGC.

hope our guys put some notes on those bombs
_Kilroy

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:43 PM (JS6jE)

112 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?
Posted by: Joemarine


Inseam, by the pictures.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:44 PM (VHUov)

113 This one is for Anna Puma, Sayo Komada doing a cover or the Red Hot Chili Peppers' song Snow, on the Shamisen

youtu.be/1HRqNcju8jk

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (rbvCR)

114 🦖 🎵🎵 and so much crazy dancing critters..Rooowww...or something.....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (ok2JK)

115 Time to go take my laundry in off the line. BBIAB.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (1z8ji)

116 Sesame Street sucked.

The Muppet Show was friggin' awesome. My dad, my brother and I loved it.

Posted by: Link Hogthrob at July 18, 2026 10:45 PM (0aYVJ)

117 102 There was some trick to start cars by pouring gasoline on the carburetor, or that was what I understood as I never did it.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026

We used to spray starter fluid into the carb. This was before they had fuel injectors in the 1980's.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 10:46 PM (y171U)

118 Tell TJM I'm watching William Wyler's "The Desperate Hours" on blu-ray. So he can calm down.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 10:46 PM (CHHv1)

119
The Electric Company was even better.

Posted by: Doof at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (QMAsf)

Zoom - with its fun suggestions for impressionable kids, like making "camp" stoves out of a coffee can, wood and leaves, setting it on fire in the backyard and cooking bologna on it. All fun and games until dad sees the backyard on fire

Posted by: moki at July 18, 2026 10:47 PM (wLjpr)

120 sheds pork product sock

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 18, 2026 10:47 PM (0aYVJ)

121 107 I thought it was the small brain and short arms, right?
Posted by: TRex - dapper dino at July 18, 2026 10:32 PM (XfIK1)
TRex, have you ever had a short arm inspection?
Posted by: RI Red
********
Just noticing you didn't ask about the small brain inspection...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 10:42 PM (XfIK1)

No need. Small brain, short arms are outweighed by large feet and other large items.
And with that, I’m outa here!

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 10:47 PM (fRFTM)

122 >>Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

They've been trying to kill for years. Does it not seem odd to anyone but me that 2 people tried to murder Trump during the election and we know absolutely nothing about either of them?

Then they plotted to kill his daughter and tonight they killed at least 2 and likely 3 Americans in Jordan.

He tried to make a deal. Now the gloves are off. The mullahs chose poorly.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:48 PM (viF8m)

123 86 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz



I suggest that the Mayor and his merry band of Khmer Rouge enthusiasts be rounded up, and dropped into a vat of quick dry cement, then dropped into the ocean. But I'm a moderate.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 10:50 PM (jrKun)

124 " Not sure anyone here is interested, but Walmart's Marketside has a really nice curry chicken salad. We add hard boiled eggs and chutney to it. Delicious!
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (2F0/Y)"

I believe I'm going to have to give that a try. Thanks for the info, Joyenz.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (/HDaX)

125 There was also a story about the State Dept cancelling a NY City meeting with Iran. They think they run a private country!

Posted by: Iris at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (286+n)

126 It's 6:30 AM in Tehran, we need some on time bomb assessment.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (JS6jE)

127 >>Also pissed off because of the Iranian plot to kill him.

They've been trying to kill for years. Does it not seem odd to anyone but me that 2 people tried to murder Trump during the election and we know absolutely nothing about either of them?
--
Yeah, yeah, get in line
-careerists in the CIA, probably

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 18, 2026 10:53 PM (vSvIl)

128 PSA: Ewetoob is chickenshit and allows misrepresented and distorted presentations. Inaccurate too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:54 PM (JS6jE)

129 You youngsters don't remember when Fraunces' Tavern was bombed by leftists."

Yep. Dad was part of the investigative team...

Posted by: man at July 18, 2026 10:54 PM (XuXeR)

130 --
Yeah, yeah, get in line
-careerists in the CIA, probably

Posted by: Methos,
---

Article said they received 101 pieces of info they disregarded.
Clean them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:56 PM (JS6jE)

131 124 " Not sure anyone here is interested, but Walmart's Marketside has a really nice curry chicken salad. We add hard boiled eggs and chutney to it. Delicious!
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:11 PM (2F0/Y)"
---

My local grocer is into that. Good to know Wally is competing.
I'll have to check them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:58 PM (JS6jE)

132 He tried to make a deal. Now the gloves are off. The mullahs chose poorly.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:48 PM (viF8m)

Need to invent a virus that causes brain aneurysms in people who bash their heads on the floor while hollering "allahu ackbar". Harmless to all others.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:59 PM (1z8ji)

133 Guten nacht, dear Hordevolk. We are about an hour outside of Yellowstone and will be going there tomorrow. Tonight was a highlight of our trip as we stopped for dinner at Pooky's cousin's house. We've always got along very well with them, and Pookette and Lil Pooky got to run around with their kids in the backyard. One of the older girls is a clone of Pookette in looks and mannerisms, and the boys share some characteristics with Lil Pooky (and Pooky) too. It's fun to see what genes seem to pop up here and there.

Posted by: pookysgirl got to drive in the Bighorns today at July 18, 2026 10:59 PM (uhKOM)

134 By the 70s American cars were de-tuned severely, from an engineering standpoint some very stupid changes were made. They ran hot and on the ragged edge to meet federal emission standards for NOX.

The carburetors weren’t really the problem, though they did install limiter caps to prevent fuckheads with screwdrivers from making things worse.

Car ain’t running right? Well, fuck with the carburetor. It’s easy to get to, it’s right there, so that must be it. The ignition timing won’t move on its own, so let’s fuck with that. Then fuck the carburetor up some more …

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:00 PM (WcNzu)

135 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

This idiot is gonna have the shin bet and the mossad fighting over who gets to stuff his silly ass into a plastic bag and sail him around NY harbor.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 11:01 PM (S41Gd)

136 >>Yeah, yeah, get in line
-careerists in the CIA, probably

The most stunning thing to me in the documents Trump just declassified was a senior FBI official stating that she was running a "shadow government".

It's one thing for a bunch of us morons to know something. When we have documented proof in their own words that kinda raises the bar. No turning back now.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:01 PM (viF8m)

137 The '70s was a turning point for me. From a kid to a teenager to a guy with a full time job. It's been downhill since, had to grow up and worry about stuff.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 11:02 PM (bqIVz)

138 Article said they received 101 pieces of info they disregarded.
Clean them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:56 PM (JS6jE)

CIA and FBI should both be shut down entirely, and all employees RIF'ed. Any employees who provide testimony to convict superiors of crimes will be given preference for hiring in the new agencies to replace the two closed ones.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:02 PM (1z8ji)

139 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

That could be funny. I suspect Israeli security are better shots than the NYPD. We'd also have to deliver Mamdani and any surviving policeman to the Israeli government to appease them for breaking diplomatic immunity. Perhaps his family would be required as well.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

140 Guten nacht, dear Hordevolk.

One of the older girls is a clone of Pookette in looks and mannerisms, and the boys share some characteristics with Lil Pooky (and Pooky) too. It's fun to see what genes seem to pop up here and there.
Posted by: pookysgirl


Funny that you would start with "Guten nacht."

Among my siblings and my cousins on Mom's side, there is a definite look. The look of my German grandfather. Those genes just blitzkrieged all the other ones.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

141 They've been trying to kill for years. Does it not seem odd to anyone but me that 2 people tried to murder Trump during the election and we know absolutely nothing about either of them?

The second guy, who is still alive, is the more interesting one.

He was in Ukraine, and claims he was recruiting mercs. The other people recruiting mercs say he's lying and I think they are likely telling the truth.

So...he was working for an intelligence agency. In a same world they've have water boarded him daily until he gave up his handler.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at July 18, 2026 11:06 PM (sKqQm)

142 The carburetors weren’t really the problem, though they did install limiter caps to prevent fuckheads with screwdrivers from making things worse.

Car ain’t running right? Well, fuck with the carburetor. It’s easy to get to, it’s right there, so that must be it. The ignition timing won’t move on its own, so let’s fuck with that. Then fuck the carburetor up some more …
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:00 PM (WcNzu)

A lot of us gearheads were busting off the limiter caps, plugging the EGR, and ripping out the AIR pumps to get '70's cars into some semblance of '60's tune. You could make them run better. I never ripped out catalytic converters, though. The advent of the "cats" meant that engines could be tuned for better performance, than the non-cat engines could be. There was really no upside to ripping them out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:07 PM (1z8ji)

143 Article said they received 101 pieces of info they disregarded.
Clean them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:56 PM (JS6jE)


Quite often evidence that might lead to a conclusion that would damage either the investigating agency, or damage the reputation of the government is swept under the rug.
if the airliner was taken down by a Stinger, it brings out the question where Middle Eastern Terrorists got Stingers, and that suspicion is the ones that got misplaced when they were given to the Mujaheddin, or similar gifts to similar regional players.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:07 PM (rbvCR)

144 So...he was working for an intelligence agency. In a same world they've have water boarded him daily until he gave up his handler.
Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin


I would not want to be "water" boarded by Mr. Toobin. I'd give up my CIA contacts before they were done strapping me down.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov)

145 Hey I got a Top Ten-ish
you like me
YOU REALLY LIKE ME
I'M SOMEBODY NOW
Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026


Don't get cocky Kid.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:09 PM (2WIwB)

146 CIA and FBI should both be shut down entirely, and all employees RIF'ed. Any employees who provide testimony to convict superiors of crimes will be given preference for hiring in the new agencies to replace the two closed ones.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---

President Harry Truman wrote two op-eds in the WaPo saying they should be eliminated. He regretted that he signed the bill instituting them. I think he insinuated their involvement w/Kennedy's ultimate dilemma.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:10 PM (JS6jE)

147 I still like men with black hair and blue eyes.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 10:21 PM (hzuYO)

*quietly warns her dad to stay away from Christy*

Posted by: pookysgirl wound up blonde-haired and blue-eyed at July 18, 2026 11:10 PM (uhKOM)

148 Oh, oh, I would never ever allude to an airplane coming down off the coast of Long Island.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:12 PM (JS6jE)

149 This idiot is gonna have the shin bet and the mossad fighting over who gets to stuff his silly ass into a plastic bag and sail him around NY harbor.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Crabs gotta eat, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (IivNP)

150 I don't understand the pasta Gadsden flag. Is it some pun about bad kerning?

Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (rcENI)

151 Thanks
I needed that

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (ZxPkt)

152 By the 70s American cars were de-tuned severely, from an engineering standpoint some very stupid changes were made. They ran hot and on the ragged edge to meet federal emission standards for NOX.

The carburetors weren’t really the problem, though they did install limiter caps to prevent fuckheads with screwdrivers from making things worse.

Car ain’t running right? Well, fuck with the carburetor. It’s easy to get to, it’s right there, so that must be it. The ignition timing won’t move on its own, so let’s fuck with that. Then fuck the carburetor up some more …

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:00 PM (WcNzu)

They do that shit to harleys too. I can't believe the minimal amount of gas they try to run them on. In 1989 they started using CV carbs. When the bike was cold you had to leave them on choke for 5 minutes, or else they just wouldn't run. I drilled the lead plug out of one so I could get to the mixture screw. It was turned out like an 1/8 of a turn. The pipes were glowing cherry red under the shields. After I saw that I started drilling the plugs out and upping the jet sizes. Choke comes off in 30 seconds and they ran great.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (S41Gd)

153 >>>ripping out the AIR pumps to get '70's
---

Dad ripped out the air pump and torched up the cat pretty warm.
Big Merc.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (JS6jE)

154 Posted by: pookysgirl got to drive in the Bighorns today at July 18, 2026 10:59 PM (uhKOM)

I grew up in Cody, Wyoming. As much as I love Yellowstone, the Bighorns was my favorite camping spot. Did you get to the Medicine Wheel? It's a stonehenge type ring of stones that point to the solstices and the equinoxes. Predates the Shoshoni presence.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (0aYVJ)

155 MARINERS WIN!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (1GRHN)

156 The fashion shorts look like cut-off's from a pair of long pants. And I can't figure out the sizes (3-7)?
Posted by: Joemarine at July 18,

Leg length, when men were men and shorts were short.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 11:16 PM (sl73Y)

157 The look of my German grandfather. Those genes just blitzkrieged all the other ones.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

Hah, Lil Pooky is a dead ringer for my dad's (full German) baby pictures. Except when he has a mischievous grin. *That* he got from Pooky.

Posted by: pookysgirl was never mischievous at July 18, 2026 11:16 PM (uhKOM)

158 CIA and FBI should both be shut down entirely, and all employees RIF'ed. Any employees who provide testimony to convict superiors of crimes will be given preference for hiring in the new agencies to replace the two closed ones.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Just break each one into two. Limit the old name to what it says, and the spin-off gets the rest of the roles.

CIA --> CWDA (Central World Destruction Agency)

FBI --> FBO (Federal Bureau of Obfuscation).

After a few months, set the new organization budgets, including pensions, salary, and benefits to $0.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:18 PM (qx7Zg)

159 Well, laundry in. Second Caesar is consumed. Now time to make supper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:18 PM (1z8ji)

160 Saijo does a great job supervising housekeeping at Piper's house.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:19 PM (RIvkX)

161 After a few months, set the new organization budgets, including pensions, salary, and benefits to $0.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:18 PM (qx7Zg)

Heh! Brilliant.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:20 PM (1z8ji)

162 I don't understand the pasta Gadsden flag. Is it some pun about bad kerning?
Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 11:14 PM (rcENI)

Look up the rules on voting, and the rules for Olive Garden's unlimited pasta pass.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:20 PM (qx7Zg)

163 >>The second guy, who is still alive, is the more interesting one.

He had a trial. He's been sent to prison for the rest of his life. And the media has been virtually silent about all of it. He tried to murder the guy who was once and then again became the most powerful person on the planet and the highly paid media didn't ever bother to cover it. Seems normal.

One of the reasons the deep state hated Trump in 2016 is because they wanted the war in Ukraine and Trump didn't.

We've sent somewhere around $100 billion to Ukraine and have been told there is no way to track where the money went. Ukraine is not a hot chick as Robert Palmer can attest.

But there's no telling where the money went.

https://tinyurl.com/3x2yvsrz

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:21 PM (viF8m)

164 And I am sure that I have seen a similar beer tap setup to that one at Fraunces Tavern at some other bar, probably in Arizona.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 11:22 PM (1z8ji)

165 Thanks for the ONT, 2Ds!

Greetings from the middle of Idaho--

Thanks to high-level wildfire smoke, it wasn't as hot as predicted today. Air quality is "moderate" but can't smell the smoke. Tomorrow may be different, LOL. So I mowed the yard and soaked the dogwood trees.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 11:22 PM (rdVOm)

166 @155. MARINERS WIN!

But they sucked yesterday.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 11:23 PM (bqIVz)

167 rhomboid, spent this morning on that book you suggested on the Mediterranean it's very thorough but very succinct.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:24 PM (RIvkX)

168 from the hobby thread:

It'll come in handy soon as I fabricate a crane to hoist my 275lbs roof top tent on top of my Hummer.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (WYStd)

Hey, do you have any airplane/airport acquaintances?

Those hangar bifold doors, usually made by Schweiss, weigh several thousand pounds, and can lift that 275lb roof like it's nothing. Very smooth, precise control too.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at July 18, 2026 11:24 PM (/6FUZ)

169 A very happy Saturday night to all 'Rons and 'Ettes! Currently enjoying what I have entitled a "UDMH" (Unsymmetrical DiMethylHydrazine) - Wild Turkey & Mountain Dew.

Posted by: Al Shabbah at July 18, 2026 11:26 PM (uabms)

170 166 @155. MARINERS WIN!

But they sucked yesterday.
Posted by: Case


And they were flat af today until the bottom of the 7th. I was at the game. No offense. Defense looked like a high school team. No spark. Horrid throws, errors, just awful.

Hopefully they get their shit together.

Julio won the game in the 10th. This is his first game back since he got hit in the head first of July.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 18, 2026 11:26 PM (1GRHN)

171 English teacher: Anyone want to guess who wrote Tom Sawyer?

Student: Rush?

English teacher: (low growl) That's not the answer I'm looking for.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:27 PM (qx7Zg)

172 Took my son shooting at the Beaver Dam Rock Pit this morning. I like to get there early so it's not crowded. I've shot rarely for years, but now we're spending more time at it. We still have tons to learn. Improving is fun.

I made a complicated target stand last time. I was proud of it, but it was over-engineered.This time I just brought thin 2'x3' plywood sheets and made some 10-degree cuts halfway through bits of 2x4, and that was simpler, lighter, faster, and more sturdy.

We managed to hit the plywood at 150 yards, although the paper target was nearly unscathed.

We need a better way to get feedback. I think I'll get some of those reactive targets, and maybe a spotting scope. The rifle has a 9x scope, and I have a pair of small 6x binoculars. Actually I just remembered I have some big honking 15x astronomy binoculars. Maybe those would help? But they weigh a ton and my tripod is broken.

Usually we just shoot at fixed targets and leave the shotgun at home, but I bought a plastic clay pigeon flinger, and we went through a whole box of clay pigeons (and about 150 shells). That was super fun. The shotgun magazine holds 5 shells, and I got one 5-out-of-5, and my son got a few.

Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 11:27 PM (rcENI)

173 Toilets for Competition Use Only > Can You Top This?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 18, 2026 11:28 PM (yMCWt)

174 The joke seems to have been gender swapped.
I blame Hollywood.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 18, 2026 11:28 PM (xcxpd)

175
Poop contests?

Lol

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (/QHx4)

176 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (UfDpa)

177 The catalyst was necessary precisely because they had de-tuned the engines so severely. There are three components to exhaust, basically. HC, HL, and NOX. The latter is what, when exposed to sunlight, creates smog.

The problem is, when an engine is at peak efficiency and mileage, HC and HL are the lowest, but the NOX peaks. So they reduced compression, retarded valve timing, buggered the ignition timing, vacuum advance etc. it worked so far as NOX is concerned. Killed highway fuel economy and power, overheating, etc. Right in the middle of an Oil Embargo and high inflation and gas rationing.

But yeah, by lowering NOX, HC spiked, literally raw fuel was now spewing out the tailpipe. What to do?

That’s what the air injection pump was for, to couple with the platinum exhaust catalyst and burn the wasted fuel in the tailpipe.

There’s no benefit engine wise to a catalytic converter, and they tend to cause a restriction when they get loaded up and plugged.

The retarded valve timing was particularly egregious because it wasn’t so easily remedied. And when engines got some miles on them, the timing chain tends to loosen, retarding it even further.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (WcNzu)

178 You didn’t like all the college girls in tube tops and short shorts? Really?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Maybe the "Micronauts (FTW)" should have given you a clue.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 11:29 PM (DZ9Lv)

179 How about the "peasant look?" Valerie Harper in a head bandana like she's been sharecroppin' the back 40. Yum.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (RIvkX)

180 >>You didn’t like all the college girls in tube tops and short shorts?

Trying to imagine a world where this is even a question.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (viF8m)

181 Having a Caesar break after mowing the south ditch.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Stretching out like a king after an energetic session of cunnilingus?

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (DZ9Lv)

182 I guess you can use the word "fashion" for any clothing, except maybe a burqua. That's more for camping.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (n5tGW)

183 Three words. Valerie Bert. Inelli.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 18, 2026 11:35 PM (RIvkX)

184 "There is a Disney, Oklahoma? Who knew?"

Um, wow.

Grew up spending lots of time over on Grand Lake, and despite being of the Mouseclub generation, never even thought about Disney, OK not having anything to do with Disney, Walt.

There is also a Miami, OK, which not only isn't related to Florida, it's pronounced My-a-muh.

Now guess how Heavener is pronounced.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at July 18, 2026 11:36 PM (p+5Bi)

185 I had to circle the parking lot twice, nice to see the joint is packed. Happy Saturday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 18, 2026 11:39 PM (ibDUx)

186 Pixy ate my comment!

Posted by: muldoon at July 18, 2026 11:40 PM (I0N4X)

187 Hi, Debby!

*slides Chivas down the bar*

Happy Caturday!

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 11:42 PM (rdVOm)

188 Thanks for the ONT, D's.
X-15 vid - pretty cool. The radio transmissions immediately made me think of the Six Million Dollar Man.

Posted by: scampydog at July 18, 2026 11:47 PM (41CYW)

189 *Gives thread a sternal knuckle rub.*

*rifles through pockets for loose change*

*tiptoes out*

Posted by: muldoon at July 18, 2026 11:47 PM (I0N4X)

190 That Lindsay Buckingham song is a satire, right?

Posted by: H at July 18, 2026 11:50 PM (cIjYM)

191 I just got back from walking the hell-hound. I think we each inhaled the equivalent of a pack of cigarettes due to all the wildfire smoke. He's now panting like crazy on the living room floor and trying to cool down. As for me, I'm trying to read a rule book for a new game but either my brain is dead or the instructions aren't very well written.

Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2026 11:52 PM (5Ide7)

192 So how was your day?

Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne at July 18, 2026 11:53 PM (gKWVE)

193 Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 10:50 PM (jrKun)

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 11:01 PM (S41Gd)

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

Perhaps the mayor and his wife will receive some new fancy beepers.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 11:55 PM (2F0/Y)

194 So how was your day?
Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne
--------
Sucked.

Posted by: Martha Moxley at July 18, 2026 11:55 PM (XeU6L)

195 As for me, I'm trying to read a rule book for a new game but either my brain is dead or the instructions aren't very well written.
Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2026 11:52 PM (5Ide7)

Replace the first with oxygen deprivation from the smoke, then go with And.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2026 11:55 PM (qx7Zg)

196 I grew up in Cody, Wyoming. As much as I love Yellowstone, the Bighorns was my favorite camping spot. Did you get to the Medicine Wheel? It's a stonehenge type ring of stones that point to the solstices and the equinoxes. Predates the Shoshoni presence.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at July 18, 2026 11:15 PM (0aYVJ)

We drove 14A, which is the Medicine Wheel Scenic Byway (or something). We were very confused by the boats we saw being towed until we got to Sibley Lake. Pookette has never been in the mountains before and was fascinated by our car's GPS, which basically functioned as an altimeter. We don't think we got higher than 9400 ft, but we told her that these were the warm-up mountains!

Posted by: pookysgirl could happily stay out here for a long time at July 18, 2026 11:57 PM (uhKOM)

197 Buckingham is a pretty decent guitar player. He’s a big reason the 70s era Mac has the best selling, or one of the best selling albums of all time.

“Never Going Back Again” is fun to play on the guitar, or try to anyhow. I sure as hell can’t play it at tempo. I bought a couple of his solo albums in the 90s and he is a perfectionist in the studio in terms of sonics, they really sounded great. Rumors was recorded pretty well too. Still could never understand what the hell Stevie Nicks was saying. But at the time I didn’t care.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:57 PM (WcNzu)

198 Guy on the news says people need to break out their COVID masks because of the smoke that Canada is blowing on us.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 11:57 PM (bqIVz)

199 Flock Safety Defends Cameras After AI System Triggers Wrongful Police Stops Of Two Journalists

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 11:58 PM (JS6jE)

200 Worth reading, Things don't really change that much and evil does exist and takes a lot names.

Telling the truth costs in the short term but it is never the wrong thing to say. And now evil is here again. And it won't stay in places you don't like.

https://tinyurl.com/bddewvmy

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 11:58 PM (viF8m)

201 Speaking of Massachusetts

@MassDailyNews
BREAKING: Dead body found at Mattapan home owned by Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley's husband as Boston Police open death investigation

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 11:59 PM (gKWVE)

202 Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 18, 2026 10:52 PM (/HDaX)

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 10:58 PM (JS6jE)

I hope you both enjoy it if you find it. It has almonds, just in case that's important to anyone.

https://tinyurl.com/3kjwcb85

Posted by: Joyenz at July 19, 2026 12:01 AM (2F0/Y)

203 I seem to recall an interview with other Fleetwood Mac members, or maybe it was people who worked with them, who said they'd get pissed off at Buckingham and kick him out of the band. But then they'd have to hire two guitarists to replace him, because he was that good, so they'd eventually let him back in. May or may not be true.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (5Ide7)

204 So how was your day?

Posted by: Mary Jo Kopechne at July 18, 2026 11:53 PM (gKWVE)
-

Nothing but arguments with family and friends.

But it's all water under the bridge now.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (yMCWt)

205 Franpsycho, glad you got the book and enjoy it. It certainly put me some major additional knowledge about the Med and also the Italian military situation. As I said when we discussed this here, the Italian navy was no joke, and the RN took it very seriously.

Think Vince is working on another book, can't remember topic. Saw him at a naval history conference here in February. Very nice guy.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (U/Byj)

206 I don't get why they didn't kick out Stevie Nicks instead in the mid 80s. Tango In The Night was a Buckingham McVie album. Except for "Seven Wonders" and Nicks sounded drunk off her ass through that one.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 12:06 AM (gKWVE)

207 Oh, whoever recommended “The Great Influenza” book, I started to look through the pictures today, thanks a lot! But … I think I’m too scared to even read it. Or it’s at least depressing

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:06 AM (WcNzu)

208 Thanks JQ!

Ayanna Pressley's husband is an ex-con who has just landed a lucrative state contract under Governor Maura Healy. I live in a cesspool.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 12:07 AM (ibDUx)

209 Ayanna Pressley's husband is an ex-con who has just landed a lucrative state contract under Governor Maura Healy. I live in a cesspool.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 12:07 AM (ibDUx)

Who is the corpus delicti?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:08 AM (1z8ji)

210 "Nicks sounded drunk off her ass through that one."

Look, someone has to drink the bottle of Crown Royal so we can toss the empty and make room in the nifty bag for the cocaine.

Posted by: Stevie Nicks at July 19, 2026 12:08 AM (5Ide7)

211 Off, goat-bleating sock.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:09 AM (5Ide7)

212 Is Pressley the Star Trek alien lookin babe with the cue ball head? It’s tough to keep up

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:09 AM (WcNzu)

213 Earf could be trying to tell the turbans something. Pretty decent-sized quake in Ahvaz, Iran area just a short time ago. No info on damage.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 19, 2026 12:10 AM (U/Byj)

214 I bet neither England nor France gave a ratz adz about the consolation game. Athletes HATE those.

Except in the Whorled Cup, you don't see much of those any more.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:10 AM (RCjYY)

215 Hillary Clinton Jr.

No, not Chelsea:

https://tinyurl.com/5hfnym2f

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:12 AM (yMCWt)

216 There was some trick to start cars by pouring gasoline on the carburetor, or that was what I understood as I never did it.“

I had a friend in college with a ‘69 Firebird (great car!) and we were trying that. He was over the carb putting gas in it and asked me to crank the engine. (We learned later that the problem was a slipped timing chain). Anyway the engine did a big backfire through the carb right into his face. We should have been horribly concerned for him - except when he pulled his head out from under the hood, he looked EXACTLY like one of those loony tune characters after a bomb goes off and they have little bits of rags in their hair around theit black face.
And he squeezed his eyes closed, so he also looked like a raccoon!
Anyway we were all laughing so hard we couldn’t even stand up!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:12 AM (l+3gx)

217 Wasn't the Fleetwood Mac band all having sex with each other?

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 12:13 AM (bqIVz)

218 I seem to recall an interview with other Fleetwood Mac members, or maybe it was people who worked with them, who said they'd get pissed off at Buckingham and kick him out of the band. But then they'd have to hire two guitarists to replace him, because he was that good, so they'd eventually let him back in. May or may not be true.
Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:04 AM (5Ide7)


My great-great uncle was the blacksmith at a sandstone quarry my great grandfather managed, and he managed to get wildly drunk and got fired periodically. They quarry would hire another blacksmith, and the carvers would complain that the new guy couldn't face their chisels right, so eventually my great grandfather would be forced to hire his own brother back, and made him promise to not drink anymore, again.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 19, 2026 12:13 AM (rbvCR)

219 All y’all whinging about the forest fire smoke…..


This happens EVERY YEAR in western WA. Suck it up. It’s not the end of the world.

It is your cave man brain yelling at you for not recognizing there’s a fire and not running away. That’s it. Calm down.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:14 AM (k0MVD)

220 Trump administration activates never-before-used 'alien terrorist ...
TodayThe Trump administration has activated a secretive and never-before-used legal process to quickly deport foreign nationals deemed to be "alien terrorists" or their immediate family members._MSN

_o, the horror

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:17 AM (JS6jE)

221 Relax, nurse--

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:18 AM (rdVOm)

222 We get the wildfire smoke every year, too.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:18 AM (rdVOm)

223 *Test Pattern*

Posted by: Penguin Pete at July 19, 2026 12:19 AM (JM9I6)

224 Don’t get your titties in a twister, JQ.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:19 AM (yEz+x)

225 LA is deteriorating:

https://t.co/VdOSgfKkOn

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 12:19 AM (yMCWt)

226 So you know its not Armageddon.

These east coasters. Jeepers. Think they’d never smelled burning wood before.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:20 AM (BL1uJ)

227 Trump administration activates never-before-used 'alien terrorist ...
TodayThe Trump administration has activated a secretive and never-before-used legal process to quickly deport foreign nationals deemed to be "alien terrorists" or their immediate family members._MSN

_o, the horror

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:17 AM (JS6jE)

We need some whacky monty python contraption, like maybe a conveyor belt and a big ass boot at the end that kicks the fuckers into orbit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 12:21 AM (S41Gd)

228 Anyway we were all laughing so hard we couldn’t even stand up!

Posted by: Tom Servo
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Yes, pour that 1/4 cup of gasoline down the carb at arms length.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9GbGO7CKdQ

1

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:21 AM (JS6jE)

229 Earf could be trying to tell the turbans something. Pretty decent-sized quake in Ahvaz, Iran area just a short time ago. No info on damage.
Posted by: rhomboid

4.9? Meh.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 19, 2026 12:23 AM (DZ9Lv)

230 The past couple of years haven't been too bad for smoke in my AO. For the 4 or 5 years before that most summers were terrible. Our "big" local fire (14K acres) is to the north, but the winds shifted two days ago so now we're getting the smoke. I don't mind it in some ways - kinda makes the whole place smell like a campfire - but I know it's not good to constantly breathe in this crap.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 12:23 AM (5Ide7)

231 Don’t get your titties in a twister, JQ.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Honey, you're the one who started off with the big shout.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:24 AM (rdVOm)

232 Earf could be trying to tell the turbans something. Pretty decent-sized quake in Ahvaz, Iran area just a short time ago. No info on damage.
Posted by: rhomboid

4.9? Meh.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 19, 2026 12:23 AM (DZ9Lv)

Wait until we use the bigger bombs. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 12:25 AM (S41Gd)

233 Trade dump to Iran for missing soldier. j,d will have to leave the sofa alone.

Posted by: raimondo at July 19, 2026 12:26 AM (d3O12)

234 Rainman should go to Iran and show us all how it's done.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:27 AM (rdVOm)

235 yeah, retardo, because you bit all the cushions

Posted by: gKWVE at July 19, 2026 12:28 AM (gKWVE)

236 Rainman should go to Iran and show us all how it's done.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:27 AM (rdVOm)

They like nice tight assholes. He's damaged goods.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:28 AM (1z8ji)

237 >>231 Don’t get your titties in a twister, JQ.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Inserts appendage into twister. Smiles, nods.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:30 AM (UfDpa)

238 Gasoline is different today, they don’t need to worry about vapor pressure index now that fuel injection rules.

Modern gas and Carbureted engines will boil off the lighter end volatiles in the bowl fairly quickly on shutdown, and over time, say a week, making the engine hard to start. It’s deceptive because the fuel bowl has fuel in it, but it’s stale.

Pouring a small amount of fresh fuel down the carb throat does work, maybe a tablespoon. It will start as normal. Always replace the air cleaner though, before cranking the engine over!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:30 AM (WcNzu)

239 ZOD!

*curtsies*
*places flowers at feet*

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:31 AM (yEz+x)

240 Went to a memorial service today for a friend of my Dad's, of our family, lawyer. Held at the church I attended as a yout' back in the long-ago. Place looks the same. Some changes in ceremony and staff ♀.

Hadn't tried on my funeral suit since Mom's funeral several years back. As expected, it didn't fit. My body has had some changes. The dress shoes fit, anyway. For those who judge you by the shoes.

I even took communion. Remarkably, I did not burst into flame.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the more things stay the same at July 19, 2026 12:31 AM (p+5Bi)

241 217 Wasn't the Fleetwood Mac band all having sex with each other?
Posted by: Case



Yes. Rumors was made with all the various relationships exploding apart.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (jrKun)

242 Inserts appendage into twister. Smiles, nods.
Posted by: ZOD

As long as it's your own appendage, bucko.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (rdVOm)

243 @234 I opposed netanhayu's con of dump going into Iran. Donald dump has got himself in a terrible jam way down yonder in Iran! Gas over 5$ gallon for mid term will even make the dump goobers vote rethugliKKKans out. You over here now JQ?

Posted by: raimondo at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (d3O12)

244 225

Iran is threatening to unleash the full fury of its proxy terrorist groups again-- Houthis; Hezbollah.

That would draw Israel back into the war, I believe. Israel's target list complements ours, I believe, but the lists aren't identical. Israel places a greater emphasis on drone and missile production; the U.S. heretofore on naval bases and air defense installations.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (RCjYY)

245 >>These east coasters. Jeepers. Think they’d never smelled burning wood before.

Sure we have.

We just don't have it on a daily basis as you west coast chaz people accept as normal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (viF8m)

246 86 This made me laugh. I would love to see him try.

Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 10:35 PM (2F0/Y)

My guess is that he is giving a sly "ok" to people to attack Netanyahu.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (6wpGE)

247 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (UfDpa)

248 "Here" rainman?

LOL

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:35 AM (rdVOm)

249 >>As long as it's your own appendage, bucko.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (rdVOm)

(inserts JQ's appendage)

Suffer. Do it now.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:36 AM (UfDpa)

250 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.
Posted by: ZOD

Very sorry to read this, ZOD. Our fuzzy friends are the best, and we miss them dearly when they leave.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:36 AM (rdVOm)

251 Suffer. Do it now.
Posted by: ZOD

No.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:37 AM (rdVOm)

252 These east coasters. Jeepers. Think they’d never smelled burning wood before.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 12:20 AM (BL1uJ)

Only when Pinocchio watches Pronhub.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:38 AM (1z8ji)

253 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.
Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (UfDpa)

Condolences, ZOD.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:38 AM (1z8ji)

254 Iran is threatening to unleash the full fury of its proxy terrorist groups again-- Houthis; Hezbollah.

That would draw Israel back into the war, I believe. Israel's target list complements ours, I believe, but the lists aren't identical. Israel places a greater emphasis on drone and missile production; the U.S. heretofore on naval bases and air defense installations.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (RCjYY)

The Houthis and Hezbollah haven’t been able to resupply. No doubt they still have some things hidden away, but they’re both at only a small fraction of the strength they had two years ago.

Especially the Houthi - they’re not an industrialized society, the only weapons they have are what Iran sends them, and that pipeline has been shut down for a while now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:39 AM (l+3gx)

255 Always replace the air cleaner though, before cranking the engine over!

Posted by: Common Tater
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Bomba loo

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:41 AM (JS6jE)

256 The Houthis could make the Red Sea the new Straight of Hormuz, some fear.. $100/bbl.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (RCjYY)

257 Mayor Mamdani suggests New York law enforcement may arrest Netanyahu

https://mol.im/a/15987573
Posted by: Joyenz

My guess is that he is giving a sly "ok" to people to attack Netanyahu.
Posted by: m
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No doubt.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

258 254 Iran is threatening to unleash the full fury of its proxy terrorist groups again-- Houthis; Hezbollah.

That would draw Israel back into the war, I believe. Israel's target list complements ours, I believe, but the lists aren't identical. Israel places a greater emphasis on drone and missile production; the U.S. heretofore on naval bases and air defense installations.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:33 AM (RCjYY)
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Typical Iran, they don't know what they are asking for.
Israel is chomping at the bit.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:44 AM (JS6jE)

259 Q. Why has Eric Swalwell pivoted into AI?

A. Someone mentioned something about a Chinese model named Kimi.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 12:45 AM (IG3/x)

260 WOW. I need a cigarette.

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 12:46 AM (bqIVz)

261 Mamdani is hell on wheels for giving illegal alien criminals sanctuary, but he has time to arrest the Israeli PM.

Priorities.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:46 AM (RCjYY)

262 Looking at what the Iranians have been saying the last few days (and of course it’s all crap, but an occasional truth sometimes slips through accidentally) I think that Iran may intentionally pull Israel back in with a major ballistic missile attack on both Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

Iran is actually quite predictable; just ask yourself what a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur and Tourette’s syndrome would do, and you’ll have your answer.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 12:48 AM (l+3gx)

263 > Yes. Rumors was made with all the various relationships exploding apart.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 12:32 AM (jrKun)

I forget which member of Jefferson (aerospace vehicle) it was who said that whoever Grace was fucking that week was the person in charge of the band.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 12:48 AM (IG3/x)

264 and mean Trump blew up the rail bridge from China

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 12:51 AM (JS6jE)

265 The Houthis could make the Red Sea the new Straight of Hormuz, some fear.. $100/bbl.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (RCjYY)

If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit? Not the Saudis, not the Yemenis, and they are on the front lines.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:51 AM (1z8ji)

266 >>whoever Grace was fucking that week was the person in charge of the band.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 12:48 AM (IG3/x)

ZOD Airplane, 1969-1971.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:52 AM (UfDpa)

267 Intentionally bringing Israel back into the war. Wow. Kind of like Monty Python's one-legged knight skit.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:52 AM (RCjYY)

268 If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit?
-
Um, hello?

Posted by: Every US media outlet at July 19, 2026 12:54 AM (vSvIl)

269 263

I loved Grace Slick's singing. Still do. She's turned into a crazy old cat lady who threatens cops now.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:56 AM (RCjYY)

270
I just had to read about the X-15 program. That paved the way for spaceflight. The X-15 set records that still stand today. Speed record of Mach 6.7, and an altitude record of 354, 200'.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 12:57 AM (w6EFb)

271 Um, hello?
Posted by: Every US media outlet at July 19, 2026 12:54 AM (vSvIl)

They'd have to find out about it, wouldn't they? They don't send reporters out anymore; they rely upon stringers in the field. If the Houthi-controlled area suddenly went radio-silent, who would know?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:58 AM (1z8ji)

272 When they went from a plane to a ship Casady exited, said he was glad to be away from all the 'hate Nixon', hate this, hate that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:00 AM (JS6jE)

273 268 If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit?
-
Um, hello?
Posted by: Every US media outlet



Yea, they'd pull out photos of mid 60s Beirut (pre CW anyway) and claim it's how the Houthis used to live before BADORANGEMAN bombed them.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:00 AM (v9vY1)

274 Sleepy time. See you hooligans on the Book Thread.

Posted by: PabloD at July 19, 2026 01:01 AM (5Ide7)

275 Remember how someone murdered Obama's chef as his Martha's Vineyard McMansion?

Well, someone murdered a guy at Ayanna Pressley's McMansion as well

Who knew Mass dems have such a lust for blood?

Note this will get way less press attention then ICE shooting someone trying to run them down

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 01:02 AM (sKqQm)

276 AOP, scant details about the body discovery, It will be interesting to learn the details. Most stuff here is behind a paywall. Mr. Pressley is named Conan Harris.

JQ, I am going to have another please and treat yourself as well.

In other local news Sen. Ed Markey is on the campaign trail calling for Trump to be impeached over his speech Thursday night. The man is 80 years old and he hasn't actually resided in Ma. for years.

Zod, I am sorry about you doggo.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:03 AM (ibDUx)

277 Self identified communists are now running major American cities. If you think any of this normal or won't be coming for you town because you don't live in San Francisco, Seattle or NYC you are mistaken.

When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:03 AM (viF8m)

278 267 Intentionally bringing Israel back into the war. Wow. Kind of like Monty Python's one-legged knight skit.

Posted by: mnw
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Geniuses think it will distract them from Lebanon and Gaza.
It will distract the media from Lebanon and Gaza.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:04 AM (JS6jE)

279 ZOD

I’m sorry. I remember when you got him.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 01:04 AM (zbJ2L)

280 Slick was always nuts. She was turned away from the Nixon era White House, as a guest or companion of someone else. They knew who she was, her plan was by her account, to dose everybody with acid.

There’s a neat Dick Cavett show you can watch filmed the day after the Woodstock hippie disaster in upstate NY. The Airplane, Joni Mitchell, and Stephen Stills and David Crosby are there. Slick was over 30 by then, and shouldn’t have been trusted, after all. Stills is still wearing his blanket poncho, Crosby is a first class twat, Mitchell is a bit spacy, etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:05 AM (WcNzu)

281 When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.
-
wut

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 19, 2026 01:07 AM (vSvIl)

282 Thank you, Debby. Sounds good!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:08 AM (rdVOm)

283
268 If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit?
-
Um, hello?
Posted by: Every US media outlet at July 19, 2026 12:54 AM (vSvIl)

The funny part is that during the last Dust Up, Israeli intelligence learned of a “secret” all hands on deck meeting of the Houthi leadership, and they hit it. They killed the president, the defense minister, almost all of the various cabinet ministers, and most of the top military generals all at the same time.

And you’ve probably never seen a word about that in any mainstream media.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 19, 2026 01:08 AM (l+3gx)

284 Thanks to the ONT the other night, I learned that Saudi Prince MBS bought Leonardo's Salvator Mundi... and is said to have it on display in his yacht.

And I thought Nick Cage was crazy for paying $3 million for a Mongolian dinosaur skeleton.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:09 AM (RCjYY)

285 Joni Mitchell wrote “Woodstock”, though she didn’t attend, because of the Dick Cavett show taping. CSN&Y covered it and got a hit out of it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 01:10 AM (WcNzu)

286 In other local news Sen. Ed Markey is on the campaign trail calling for Trump to be impeached ...
-

This is good. All the collectivists coming together showing the mushy middle who they are. The more they show the more inconsistencies become apparent.
Before long, water cooler conversations go from; he's a fool, that not the way it works, to, they're crazy. Come on Krazy Commies, show us what you've got.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:11 AM (JS6jE)

287 >>I’m sorry. I remember when you got him.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 19, 2026 01:04 AM (zbJ2L)

Thanks. He's tough. I may be over-reading it, but it doesn't look good. Morning may show promise.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 01:12 AM (UfDpa)

288 > 280 Slick was always nuts. She was turned away from the Nixon era White House, as a guest or companion of someone else. They knew who she was, her plan was by her account, to dose everybody with acid.

She went to Finch College with Tricia Nixon, and all of the classmates were invited to Tricia's wedding.

Pretty soon someone realized who the former Grace Wing was, and the invitation was canceled.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:13 AM (IG3/x)

289 Waiting for Canis Zod II to leave us tonight. No vet and he likely won't see the sunrise. Only six, and Mrs. is well out of town taking care of her sister.

Night watch.
Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 12:34 AM (UfDpa)

I'm so sorry. I pray for an easy transition to the bridge.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 19, 2026 01:15 AM (2F0/Y)

290 >>>a neat Dick Cavett show you can watch...
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Sophia Loren seduce Marcello Mastroianni live on the set.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:16 AM (JS6jE)

291 > 284 Thanks to the ONT the other night, I learned that Saudi Prince MBS bought Leonardo's Salvator Mundi... and is said to have it on display in his yacht.

You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:17 AM (IG3/x)

292 Illegal aliens to lose access to American banking services under Trump admin in move to encourage self-deportation
"The Treasury Department just issued new guidance to financial institutions to banks,"
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller announced.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:20 AM (JS6jE)

293 You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:17 AM (IG3/x)

MBS is one of the "good" muslims. Maybe he is trying to bridge the gulf between islam and Christianity. Or maybe he is a crypto-Christian?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:21 AM (1z8ji)

294 Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.

Islam is weird. Muhammed said the Bible was real and true but then claims Jesus was not the son of God. So by Muhammed's own words Islam is false.

And...amusingly he died the way he said a false prophet would

Posted by: 18-1 at July 19, 2026 01:23 AM (sKqQm)

295 >>You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

Yes, I know they consider Jesus a prophet, but "Salvator Mundi" means "Savior of the World", which Muslims definitely do NOT believe.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Could it be that back behind the drapes some of the top Islamic leaders are talking about a type of reformation rhyming with those done by Jews and Christians?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 01:23 AM (JS6jE)

296 277 Self identified communists are now running major American cities. If you think any of this normal or won't be coming for you town because you don't live in San Francisco, Seattle or NYC you are mistaken.

When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:03 AM (viF8m)

I’m only surprised Austin is not on this list.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 01:24 AM (8l6/L)

297 True story:

Grace Slick once attended a Martin Mull show (comedian and musician). Mull asked his manager to invite her backstage when he found out she was there, because he'd always wanted to meet her.

Marty, remember when security removed that screaming drunk woman at intermission?

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:25 AM (RCjYY)

298 281 When evil shows its face you can either stand up and fight back despite the ridicule you will face or surrender. And guns won't save you.
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wut
Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 19, 2026 01:07 AM (vSvIl)

Well just surrender. We’re screwed anyway
(Whine)

Posted by: AoS Defeatists and Eeyores at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (8l6/L)

299 >>295 >>You have to wonder how he justifies having such an overtly Christian painting on display.

It's a scalp.

Posted by: ZOD at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (UfDpa)

300 300

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (6wpGE)

301 nurse, if you are still around, I saw your news last night that you are going to be a grandma, congratulations, that baby is going to bring so much joy to your life.

Braenyard, I agree, the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally. You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (ibDUx)

302 288 > 280 Slick was always nuts. She was turned away from the Nixon era White House, as a guest or companion of someone else. They knew who she was, her plan was by her account, to dose everybody with acid.

She went to Finch College with Tricia Nixon, and all of the classmates were invited to Tricia's wedding.

Pretty soon someone realized who the former Grace Wing was, and the invitation was canceled.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:13 AM (IG3/x)

Damn. I always knew she was crazy, but damn.

I remember when China Kantner was a sometimes VJ on MTV. She was hot. (Back in the 1980s.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (8l6/L)

303 One way to look at the Cosmic Conflict is simply Truth v Lies. Pretty much all the conflicts boil down to that. I've always been partial to Truth, and the Spirit Of has, so it seems to me, led me to it even when the Lies are convincing. I pray for great victories for Truth, great and sudden and soon.

Meanwhile, a night's rest, to face the morrow.

https://youtu.be/4KygdhHI_eE

G'nite, truth warriors.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - what me bookie? at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (p+5Bi)

304 The Houthis could make the Red Sea the new Straight of Hormuz, some fear.. $100/bbl.
Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 12:42 AM (RCjYY)

If Israel or the USA totally genocided the Houthis, who would give a shit? Not the Saudis, not the Yemenis, and they are on the front lines.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 12:51 AM (1z8ji)

I sure the fuck wouldn't care. As far as the ME is concerned sometimes genocide is your friend.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (S41Gd)

305 Braenyard, I agree, the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally. You can't make this stuff up.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:26 AM (ibDUx)

It probably has a period after every vigorous session of sodomy. Twice a week, even!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:29 AM (1z8ji)

306 A young man reaches the age where he becomes interested in young ladies. His dad wants to have a Talk with him.

"Stay away from the girl next door. She's actually your sister. Same with the girl on the other side, and the one across the street, and..."

The next day the boy's mother says "Fool around with whoever you want. He's not your father."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:33 AM (IG3/x)

307 LOL AOP, my thoughts too.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:33 AM (ibDUx)

308 >> the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally. You can't make this stuff up.

Wow.

Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:35 AM (rdVOm)

309 Awww, the kitty is curled up atop the basket of freshly line-dried laundry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:36 AM (1z8ji)

310 What can you do if a Commie runs for office? Vote against them, that's about all. If voters want that and the Commie wins that is on the voters. And yes there are some that are that stupid.

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (bqIVz)

311 Hahaha, AOP-- kitty is now a basket case!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (rdVOm)

312 I saw a photo of that Maine tranny. Anyone who wants to sodomize THAT must be a blind faggot.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (RCjYY)

313 Theory I saw the other day:

Someone claimed Tolkien's hobbits were anarchists (obviously they weren't... they had mayors and gentry and so on).

Someone else noted that the hobbits engaged in a complex covert mission to make sure a pro-hobbit King was installed in Gondor.

Hobbits aren't anarchists. Hobbits are the CIA.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (IG3/x)

314 Seem to recall a story about Grace Slick getting a visit at her home by the cops. She answered the door naked and holding a shotgun. Alcohol may have been involved.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:38 AM (v9vY1)

315
Gay bowel syndrome used to be a term for such. It's considered hateful and insensitive now. Of course.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 01:38 AM (w6EFb)

316 313 Theory I saw the other day:

Someone claimed Tolkien's hobbits were anarchists (obviously they weren't... they had mayors and gentry and so on).

Someone else noted that the hobbits engaged in a complex covert mission to make sure a pro-hobbit King was installed in Gondor.

Hobbits aren't anarchists. Hobbits are the CIA.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia



tinyurl.com/mr2kvp3s

Unused Audio Commentary by Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky, Recorded Summer 2002 for The Fellowship of the Ring (Platinum Series Extended Edition) DVD, Part One

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:40 AM (v9vY1)

317
Doomscrolling through X tonight, which is a mistake to begin with, with one "mainstream" Dem after another panicking in horror all over the place at their DemonSpAwn. Not a one trying to figure out where they came from.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (mmrXZ)

318 Gasoline is different today, they don’t need to worry about vapor pressure index now that fuel injection rules.

Modern gas and Carbureted engines will boil off the lighter end volatiles in the bowl fairly quickly on shutdown, and over time, say a week, making the engine hard to start. It’s deceptive because the fuel bowl has fuel in it, but it’s stale.

Pouring a small amount of fresh fuel down the carb throat does work, maybe a tablespoon. It will start as normal. Always replace the air cleaner though, before cranking the engine over!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 12:30 AM (WcNzu)

Yeah my '69 roadrunner is a wee bit of a bitch to start when it sits for some weeks. It always starts eventually, but not instantly after sitting for a month or so. It will take about 5-6 cranking sessions for about 5-10 seconds each and a lot of pumping the gas.The harley's on the other hand start instantly after sitting for 4-5 months, and thats because I can shut the fuel off to run it dry, so when its time to start them I turn the gas on and it gets a clean shot of gas. I usually will drain the gas at that time and put fresh gas in, but they always start right up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (S41Gd)

319 314

I alluded to that in an earlier post (above):

"She's turned into a crazy old cat lady who threatens the cops"

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (RCjYY)

320
Awww, the kitty is curled up atop the basket of freshly line-dried laundry.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

===============

They have radar. I pile freshly dried laundry on my unmade bed and the cat knows exactly where to curl up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 01:43 AM (mmrXZ)

321 >>I’m only surprised Austin is not on this list.

It is. As is your town and mine.

The biggest reveal we got from Trump's win in 2024 is they are no longer pretending. Ask Tucker or Candace or the other dirtbag "influencers" who magically appeared to tell you how much Trrump sucks and i controlled by evil Jews.

It's probably organic. Said nobody with an IQ above room temperature.

We aren't fighting Democrats. We are fighting communists. Trump dropped the first of what will be ongoing doc drop that proved conclusively China i fucking with our elections likely paying our media to support them.

What do people think is going on?



Posted by: JackStraw at July 19, 2026 01:43 AM (viF8m)

322
Reading about the X-15, I got off on the tangent of the official definition of "space", the altitude above which one can be said to have been in space, and qualify for astronaut wings/status.

The Air Force defined that originally as 50 miles. The Karman line is sort of the internationally defined boundary, at 100km or 62 miles. But for the US, military and NASA, 50 miles remains the standard. With commercial crews, it's a bit more ambiguous, but 50 miles sort of applies.

But, after Bezos' Penis Rocket up and down thing, they've revised the rules. So, thankfully Katy Perry and Gayle King will not qualify for astronaut status at all.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 01:46 AM (w6EFb)

323 Cats know the sound of sheets being shook open, too.

Just *try* to make that bed without their "help" LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:46 AM (rdVOm)

324 Ha JQ, somewhere in my cellar is a cuckoo clock, the official timepiece of the democrat party.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 01:48 AM (ibDUx)

325 323 Cats know the sound of sheets being shook open, too.

Just *try* to make that bed without their "help" LOL.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:46 AM (rdVOm)

Piper submitted a good photo of that process on the pet thread!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 01:51 AM (6wpGE)

326
Katy Perry's official designation is "spaceflight participant". She gets a participation trophy.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 01:51 AM (w6EFb)

327 Yeah my '69 roadrunner is a wee bit of a bitch to start when it sits for some weeks. It always starts eventually, but not instantly after sitting for a month or so. It will take about 5-6 cranking sessions for about 5-10 seconds each and a lot of pumping the gas.The harley's on the other hand start instantly after sitting for 4-5 months, and thats because I can shut the fuel off to run it dry, so when its time to start them I turn the gas on and it gets a clean shot of gas. I usually will drain the gas at that time and put fresh gas in, but they always start right up.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 01:41 AM (S41Gd)

Well, I presume the Harleys have gravity feed from the tank. Open the fuel petcock, and the carburetor fills right away. Your Roadrunner has a 4-barrel carb sitting right on top of the engine, which was hot when you parked it, so most of the gas in the carb, and maybe some in the lines and fuel pump boiled off, and some of the rest evaporated. So you have to crank and crank to make that pump suck up gas from the tank and fill the carb. My old driver cars have electric fuel pumps down by the tank, and the mechanical fuel pump bypassed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:51 AM (1z8ji)

328 the crazy transperson running to succeed Platner in Maine is making some very absurd claims about ovulating and having "her" period rectally.
--------------------

The jokes write themselves.

Just kidding, the jokes ran away ululating in horror.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (vE0+H)

329 LOL, Debby! Demonrat timepiece!

I have one also-- it's in the living room, but doesn't work. My lib sis bought it in Germany & couldn't get it repaired so was going to throw it away. It's too pretty to just trash, so I asked for it.

Not going to get it repaired as it would be too annoying. But it's nice to look at.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

330
The jokes write themselves.

Just kidding, the jokes ran away ululating in horror.
Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (vE0+H)

You have to admit that Susan Collins could not ask for a better opponent in the general, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:55 AM (1z8ji)

331 Not going to get it repaired as it would be too annoying. But it's nice to look at.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

Send it to the Gestapo clock shop. "Ve haff vays of making you tock!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:57 AM (1z8ji)

332 Many years ago, I had two cats. The older one liked to climb up the bed & sleep between the blanket and comforter. Young cat liked to play.

So, when old cat (lump in the bed) moved... young cat would pounce! LOL, and the fight was ON.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:57 AM (rdVOm)

333
Tulsi Gabbard's older brother arrested in Hawaii for trying to lure children to his hotel room.

The article at Daily Mail says he has mental problems and other issues.


Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 02:00 AM (/QHx4)

334 I learned quickly, that kitty claws could penetrate the comforter (ouch!) when playing with old cat lump.

So, I started tossing match books onto the lump. Lump would bat them away! It was a fun game for both of us.

Simple toys for simple minds...

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:01 AM (rdVOm)

335 The article at Daily Mail says he has mental problems and other issues.

Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 02:00 AM (/QHx4)

In other words he's a Democrat.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 02:04 AM (vE0+H)

336 331 Not going to get it repaired as it would be too annoying. But it's nice to look at.
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

Send it to the Gestapo clock shop. "Ve haff vays of making you tock!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 01:57 AM (1z8ji)

; )

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:05 AM (6wpGE)

337
...probably

Posted by: four seasons at July 19, 2026 02:05 AM (/QHx4)

338
Katy Perry's official designation is "spaceflight participant". She gets a participation trophy.
Posted by: publius

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Oh ffs Katy just call yourself a passenger like the rest of us. I'm not an "airflight participant" on some stupid Southwest commuter.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:06 AM (mmrXZ)

339 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 02:14 AM (yMCWt)

340 @321 JackStraw.

"What do people think is going on?"

A lot of things go on in politics.I would hope voters would be serious about who they vote for. And choose wisely. I think most people really want the country in good hands and our rights and Constitution protected. The one thing that concerns me the most is votes are legal and counted correctly. Fraud should be a prison sentence. There are things that need to be cleaned up in some of the states. And we know which states they are, don't we.

Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 02:16 AM (bqIVz)

341
I think "participant" has a bit of a more insulting connotation, really.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:16 AM (w6EFb)

342 Biden's Dog I bet that James Talerico has that magazine cover framed and hanging in his bedroom above the shelf holding his stuffed animal collection.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 02:17 AM (ibDUx)

343 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Huh. Looks like Ellen skips *leg day*

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:17 AM (rdVOm)

344 Fox News

Honolulu police allege [Batarti] Gabbard approached several children, including a 9-year-old boy, asked for their names, wrote them in a notebook and offered them money and gum if they would accompany him to his hotel room. ...

According to police, the children refused and Gabbard walked away.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:18 AM (6wpGE)

345 Like Graham, Collins probably has good constituent service. Her voters know her personal, 'she helped me out', so when the cock-a-mamie adds are shown they say, meh.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 19, 2026 02:21 AM (JS6jE)

346 339 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 02:14 AM (yMCWt)

She seems nice.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:21 AM (6wpGE)

347 >> Like Graham, Collins probably has good constituent service.

Miss Lindsey, when he was anointed as Strom's successor, inherited Strom's impressive constituent services apparatus, which had been built up over many decades.

The joke was Strom and the others told Social Security, etc, etc to mess things up just so they could fix it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (w6EFb)

348
This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

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I'm pretty sure it's fake.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (mmrXZ)

349 And yes there are some that are that stupid.
Posted by: Case at July 19, 2026 01:37 AM (bqIVz)

Trust me, I know. I live in Illinois. Despite Chicago getting worse, despite more and more taxes being raised or implemented, and despite the laws and benefits passed to support illegals and criminals, the voters in Chicago, Rockford, Springfield, Champaign-Urbana, East St. Louis, and Alexander and Union counties keep voting Democrat.

They are too dumb to change how they vote despite the suffering.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 19, 2026 02:24 AM (2F0/Y)

350 Oh, I saw this from last night, but it was too late:

"Wow, how can you not know that you're banking? I can see how you might not know that your nose is down, but it seems to me you would know that you're sliding left or right in your seat. Your coffee is spilling sideways."

In a banking turn, you roll, and let some of the lift on the wings give you the sideways force to turn. So you're leaned over relative to horizontal, but yet a force still pushing "up" relative to the floor of the plane.

Without visual cues, that will just feel like a steady force "down", and you think you're level.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:26 AM (w6EFb)

351 I think most people really want the country in good hands and our rights and Constitution protected. The one thing that concerns me the most is votes are legal and counted correctly
——-

That sounds reasonable, but they will still completely destroy the country with legal, counted correctly ballots. All anybody is doing now at best appears to be a delaying action.

“Democracy” is just two wolves and a sheep deciding on what’s for dinner.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 02:27 AM (LSh5J)

352 JQ, thanks for another evening of superior bar service, I am sleepy now. Sweet dreams Horde, your tab has been paid.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 02:27 AM (ibDUx)

353 348
This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

================

I'm pretty sure it's fake.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (mmrXZ)

@menshealthmag doesn't have it
I think you're right!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:28 AM (6wpGE)

354
The human vestibular system is well adapted to sensing the various motions and attitude changes one experiences on the ground under your own locomotion. It's not too good at that for motion in 3D space in the air.

In fact, it will lie to you, with disastrous results.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:29 AM (w6EFb)

355
Oh, I saw this from last night, but it was too late:

"Wow, how can you not know that you're banking? I can see how you might not know that your nose is down, but it seems to me you would know that you're sliding left or right in your seat. Your coffee is spilling sideways."

In a banking turn, you roll, and let some of the lift on the wings give you the sideways force to turn. So you're leaned over relative to horizontal, but yet a force still pushing "up" relative to the floor of the plane.

Without visual cues, that will just feel like a steady force "down", and you think you're level.
Posted by: publius

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Thanks, publius!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:29 AM (mmrXZ)

356 Well, 12:30 here, and I need to hit the sack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 19, 2026 02:31 AM (1z8ji)

357
@menshealthmag doesn't have it
I think you're right!
Posted by: m

================

It's accurate but fake. "He" and "his" boosters would consider this super representative of men's health.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:32 AM (mmrXZ)

358 'Night, Debby & AOP

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:33 AM (rdVOm)

359 also

menshealth.com

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:33 AM (6wpGE)

360
Right after JFK, Jr killed his fool self, and his wife and her two sisters, Rush Limbaugh told a story about that. One of his buddies that used to fly around with him a lot on EIB One, refused to believe he could lose his sense of up and down and all that. Just couldn't believe anyone could do the "controlled flight into terrain (or water)" thing.

Rush's pilot did a demonstration. He put the guy in the jumpseat in the cockpit. He let him look out the windshield. Ok, you see we're level right, clear sky. See the stars? Ok.

He then executed some maneuvers. Nothing too aggressive, just the kind the pilot knew well would be the ones that easily disrupt the vestibular system.

He then stopped the accelerations and turns and asked the guy, okay, what's our orientation and attitude?

Guy said we're in a climb, nose pointed up right at a star there.

Pilot said nope, we're in a slight dive, and headed straight toward the ocean. That star you see is the lights of a ship.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:37 AM (w6EFb)

361 It will take about 5-6 cranking sessions for about 5-10 seconds each and a lot of pumping the gas.
——-

Right, this is where a tablespoon of fresh gas down the carb avoids all that. Vroom!

Engine starters have a duty cycle, i think a 5
second crank is probably 15 minutes or something like that. I dislike abusing the battery, starter and relays, charging system …

When you hear people cranking over an engine for 30 second bursts over snd over, that fucker is toast. Not right away maybe. It burns all the winding insulation off the starter, road spray and salt does the rest. They core it at the auto parts store, who sends it off somewhere, and they don’t do shit to it except slap a coat of paint on it for the most part.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 19, 2026 02:38 AM (LSh5J)

362 360 Pilot said nope, we're in a slight dive, and headed straight toward the ocean. That star you see is the lights of a ship.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:37 AM (w6EFb)

wow
publius service announcement!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 02:39 AM (6wpGE)

363 “Democracy” is just two wolves and a sheep deciding on what’s for dinner.
Posted by: Common Tater

That's how Dad always explained it to us.

But that is too... I don't have the right word... simplistic?

Consider: One *million* to-- one million *plus one*. That's how bad it is.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:39 AM (rdVOm)

364 “Democracy” is just two wolves and a sheep deciding on what’s for dinner.
Posted by: Common Tater

That's how Dad always explained it to us.

But that is too... I don't have the right word... simplistic?

Consider: One *million* to-- one million *plus one*. That's how bad it is.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:39 AM (rdVOm)

Democrats don't even want Democracy. They want the appearance of it while the tiniest minority actually decides everything.

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 02:41 AM (vE0+H)

365 Today's demonrats appear to want a communist oligarchy.

*raises both middle fingers*

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 02:46 AM (rdVOm)

366 >> wow

You've got to learn to trust your instruments and not your senses. During instrument training, they make the student pilot wear some blinder googles that obscures his view of the horizon, but allows him to see his instruments.

You learn to fly by those, and not depend on your vision.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:48 AM (w6EFb)

367
So, "flying blind" in a sense, is part of the training.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 02:50 AM (w6EFb)

368
Pilot said nope, we're in a slight dive, and headed straight toward the ocean. That star you see is the lights of a ship.

Posted by: publius

==============

And then he pulled the plane up, right? RIGHT?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 03:01 AM (mmrXZ)

369
Your vestibular system senses acceleration and changes in acceleration (jerk). Those little accelerometers in your inner ear are telling you which way down is. Move your head all around, and that direction changes. It tells your brain how your head (and body, via other inputs) is oriented relative to gravity.

Now, add other accelerations to that, and it gets a bit more complex but still the same principle.

You can also sense rotation, and that is a bit more complicated, and depends on sensing jerk, at least the directional change in acceleration. But it's only a temporary thing, that depends of the viscous nature of the fluid in your inner ears moving around and stimulating these little "hairs" on some cells.

Once that fluid equilibriates under steady rotation, which takes maybe 20 seconds, you lose that sense, and you're back to the pure linear acceleration sensing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:03 AM (w6EFb)

370 321 >>I’m only surprised Austin is not on this list.

It is. As is your town and mine.


A target list, yes. Not on the list you presented. Which again I find surprising.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 19, 2026 03:04 AM (An2iq)

371 314 Seem to recall a story about Grace Slick getting a visit at her home by the cops. She answered the door naked and holding a shotgun. Alcohol may have been involved.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 19, 2026 01:38 AM (v9vY1)

Yeah, she appears to have had a drinking problem. There's this gem from her wiki bio:

Jefferson Starship had to cancel the first performance night in Germany because she was too intoxicated to perform, causing the audience to riot. She performed the next night with the band but was so inebriated that she could not sing properly. She also attacked the audience, mocking Germany for losing World War II and groping both female audience members and bandmates.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 19, 2026 03:07 AM (2z+OF)

372
Close your eyes in say a swivel chair, and pick your feet up. Let someone rotate you. At first, you'll sense which way you're rotated, and pretty much how far. Yep, he turned me about 90 degrees to the left.

Now, get in a steady spin. After about 20 seconds, everything will settle in and catch up. You no longer sense any rotation, and you'll have no idea where you're pointed when you stop.

And when you stop, you'll be stumbling dizzy for another 20 seconds or better. Once you stop, that "jerk" system kicks in again, and your brain thinks it's rotating in the opposite direction. You're not, and that's why you're stumbling dizzy and can't maintain your balance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:07 AM (w6EFb)

373 Restroom tokens are temporarily not required. We know some of you hit the nearby Taco Bell on your way in.

So the Barrel is no longer a token bathroom (in both senses of the word)?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 19, 2026 03:10 AM (l3cgK)

374 And then he pulled the plane up, right? RIGHT?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 03:01 AM (mmrXZ)

How is the other person going to learn

Posted by: ... at July 19, 2026 03:13 AM (vE0+H)

375 down a rabbit hole, now!

1999 Martha's Vineyard plane crash (Wikipedia)

The official investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) concluded that Kennedy fell victim to spatial disorientation while descending over water at night and lost control of his plane.

Kennedy did not hold an instrument rating and therefore he was only certified to fly under visual flight rules (VFR).

At the time of Kennedy's death, the weather and light conditions were such that all basic landmarks were obscured, making visual flight challenging, although legally still permissible.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:16 AM (6wpGE)

376
He was warned not to do it, too. Hell, a real experienced pilot even offered to ride along with him in case anything got out of hand. John John refused.

It was just stupid arrogance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:21 AM (w6EFb)

377 I remember watching the nooz with Mom, after "John-john" crashed... ugh. Talk about a hagiography!

And I remember her rant, when the talking heads mentioned Camelot blahblahblah.

"Camelot, my ass! Bunch of johnny-come-lately, lace-curtain Irish, no closer to any throne than you and I!"

Love ya, Mom! RIP

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:23 AM (rdVOm)

378 35 The only good things about the 70's were the music and the toys (Micronauts FTW). Everything else - the clothes, the beer, the drugs, facial and head hair, carburetors, the presidents - sucked.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 18, 2026 10:13 PM (DZ9Lv)


Watching old concert videos on YT, I developed the hypothesis (probably not original) that the awesome music of the '70s was facilitated by the crappy drugs. Now, doing it like they did -- from the same kinds of connections -- would take you straight past an inspired altered mental state, directly to stupefaction (if not adulterated) or death (thanks, fentanyl).

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 03:24 AM (Sy6m/)

379 Rush really performed a public service by telling that flight story. Probably saved lives.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:24 AM (6wpGE)

380 Tons of details at the Wikipedia page on the flight. All of them bad.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:26 AM (6wpGE)

381
He got into a classic graveyard spiral. That's a slight banking turn. Because of all that vestibular stuff I was going on about above, "John-John" thought he was flying level. No, he was in a banking turn. His instruments would've told him that, if the fool knew what he was looking at.

In the banking turn, you're falling a little bit, losing altitude, because your wings are rolled, and some of the lift is turning you. His trajectory was a helical path, slowing spiraling into the drink. Going around in circles, while descending.

At some point, he probably realized he was loosing altitude. Don't know if the plane had any alarm about that or not. Now, he thought we flying level, so losing altitude means "pull your nose up".

Do that in that banking turn, and you just tighten the turn, increasing the descent rate. Panicking, you pull back the stick even more, and start pulling high g's and totally lose all senses and hit the drink at high speed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:29 AM (w6EFb)

382 Biden's Dog I bet that James Talerico has that magazine cover framed and hanging in his bedroom above the shelf holding his stuffed animal collection on the ceiling.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 19, 2026 02:17 AM (ibDUx)
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FIFY

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 03:31 AM (74zY1)

383 This is a real magazine cover:

https://tinyurl.com/yvuwpp8b
Posted by: Biden's Dog

================

I'm pretty sure it's fake.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 02:23 AM (mmrXZ)
-

I should have known better. Fake. But this is real - from Grok:

The featured cover is fake, but it references a real Australian Men's Health article titled "Elliot Page’s Washboard Abs Are A Major Moment," which discusses Page's recent shirtless photos and boxing training.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 19, 2026 03:33 AM (74zY1)

384 It's (supposedly) a free country...

Ellen is free to pretend she's a man, and call herself "Elliot."

I am free to not entertain her delusion.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:37 AM (rdVOm)

385
I remember watching the nooz with Mom, after "John-john" crashed... ugh. Talk about a hagiography!

Love ya, Mom! RIP
Posted by: JQ

===============

I bet you and your mom loved President Clinton's (at the time) decision to send -- who was it, the damned Air Force? -- to look for his plane because the Kennedy family had done so much more for America than other families and their service to America was so exceptional and their family was so much better than yours.

RIP mom!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 03:37 AM (mmrXZ)

386 He was warned not to do it, too. Hell, a real experienced pilot even offered to ride along with him in case anything got out of hand. John John refused.

It was just stupid arrogance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:21 AM (w6EFb)

..and he went into the water like a frigging dart.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:38 AM (S41Gd)

387 Yes, Blondie (Hi!)

Mom was *livid* that junior was sofa king special that we wasted military resources for his privileged little CIVILIAN ass.

I was merely disgusted.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:41 AM (rdVOm)

388 It's (supposedly) a free country...

Ellen is free to pretend she's a man, and call herself "Elliot."

I am free to not entertain her delusion.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:37 AM (rdVOm)

Exactly. I'll call her a man when she calls me System Lord. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:41 AM (S41Gd)

389 Mom was *livid* that junior was sofa king special that we wasted military resources for his privileged little CIVILIAN ass.

I was merely disgusted.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:41 AM (rdVOm)

Did they find his silly ass, or is he somewhere in davy jones locker?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:43 AM (S41Gd)

390 Did they find his silly ass, or is he somewhere in davy jones locker?
Posted by: Berserker

*shrugs*

I think so. Not sure. Didn't give a rat's ass about it.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:45 AM (rdVOm)

391 Wikipedia

On the afternoon of July 21, divers reportedly found the Bessette sisters' bodies near the fuselage; Kennedy's body was still strapped into his seat.

However, Coast Guard Admiral Richard M. Larrabee said that all three bodies were "near and under" the fuselage, still strapped in.

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 03:47 AM (6wpGE)

392 Junior was a chip off his uncle's block, eh?

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:51 AM (rdVOm)

393 >> Did they find his silly ass, or is he somewhere in davy jones locker?

The official story is all three bodies were recovered. But there was likely some monkey-business about the details.

John-john's body was severed in two, at the torso. His wife was scalped, according to some of the leaked stuff. The sister may have been thrown out of the plane on impact.

The mother of the the wife and sister was intimidated into the cremation and scattering the ashes at sea. She didn't want to do that. She did sue for wrongful death and there was some undisclosed settlement.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:51 AM (w6EFb)

394 I get crazy dreams once in a great while that I have a plane, I take off, can fly it, but don't know how to land it. I flew one once, it was pretty cool, but the owner did the take off and landing. Sometimes the dreams get funny. The plane will be basket case like an old harley, or a barn find, and I just patch it up and hit the wild blue yonder and think WTF am I doing? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:55 AM (S41Gd)

395 Need some music....

youtu.be/7xxgRUyzgs0

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 03:56 AM (rdVOm)

396 John-john's body was severed in two, at the torso. His wife was scalped, according to some of the leaked stuff.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 03:51 AM (w6EFb)

Where the hell did he land, Little Bighorn? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 19, 2026 03:58 AM (S41Gd)

397
It was just stupid arrogance.

Posted by: publius

=============

Another story. You never know, but they say: wifey was a very difficult case. All the time. Just sour and manipulative as hell. On the wedding night, she kept delaying the flight because whatever, she wanted to get her toenails painted just so, and John-John kept saying They had to get out of there, he was losing his light. Her: goes to the window to make sure her manicure is exactly what she wants.

So they took off a couple hours later than he wanted and she got them all killed.

Probably hit the water so hard that death was instant.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 19, 2026 04:02 AM (mmrXZ)

398 The second guy, who is still alive, is the more interesting one.

He was in Ukraine, and claims he was recruiting mercs. The other people recruiting mercs say he's lying and I think they are likely telling the truth.

So...he was working for an intelligence agency. In a same world they've have water boarded him daily until he gave up his handler.
Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at July 18, 2026 11:06 PM (sKqQm)


What few things I've heard raise more questions than they answer. So he's some kind of handyman, but he's flying all over the world? He's from the Carolinas (IIRC), where he's racking up tickets for driving illegally, but without losing his vehicle or going to jail? And he's not from Hawaii, but he's living there and making his own NGO to pay himself to build big boxes for the beach homeless, and he wrote a book on international relations and went to Ukraine somehow?

Shades of Mandelay Bay. How do you make a small pile of money on video poker? By starting with a large pile of money. So where did Stephen Paddock get the money that he was laundering? They never told.

Posted by: SciVo at July 19, 2026 04:11 AM (Sy6m/)

399
They were both pieces of work, from what I've read. Here's one I remembered from the Daily Mail:

https://t.ly/J5TBm

That was a few months before they were married.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM (w6EFb)

400 400

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM (6wpGE)

401 https://t.ly/J5TBm

That was a few months before they were married.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM

Thanks anyway, publius, but DM got all uppity and put stuff behind a paywall.

That's ok. RIP Kennedy spawn (and wife and Sis in law.)

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:16 AM (rdVOm)

402 401 https://t.ly/J5TBm

That was a few months before they were married.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:12 AM

Thanks anyway, publius, but DM got all uppity and put stuff behind a paywall.

That's ok. RIP Kennedy spawn (and wife and Sis in law.)
Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:16 AM (rdVOm)

https://archive.is/UH0GS

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:18 AM (6wpGE)

403
Oh, sorry, that's the "plus" thing. While I wouldn't otherwise admit, I subscribed to it. For my mother. She loves to read that stuff, which surprised me, but at her age, she can read what she wants.

Anyway, that was some famous photos of John-John and the soon to be wife in some explosive argument in a park. He almost hit her, and ripped the engagement ring off her finger.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:19 AM (w6EFb)

404 "This site can’t be reached
The webpage at https://archive.is/UH0GS might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address."

Thanks anyway, m.

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:19 AM (rdVOm)

405 Welp, it's time for bed anyway...

Good night, horde. Thanks for an interesting chat!

Posted by: JQ at July 19, 2026 04:21 AM (rdVOm)

406
That's honestly for my mother. I just thought of a neighbor who'd watch a lot of the "judge shows" and other trashy TV. He'd always blame his wife for watching that. "She had it on" he'd say, when he would tell whatever happened.

As she later told us, no she didn't watch that crap, and he was the one who actually "had it on" all the time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 19, 2026 04:34 AM (w6EFb)

407 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at July 19, 2026 04:35 AM (6wpGE)

Music Thread: End Of Bin Cleanup

Blackboat26.jpg

My apologies for bringing the real world into this thread, but this made me laugh, and it is excellent on so many levels. Not least of which is poking marvelous fun at the Woke bullsh*t that oozes out of so many organizations that are designed for non-political pursuits.

Anyway, behind the graphic is a great American Rock And Roll song. Even Duncanthrax will like it...I think.

***

Love them or hate them; The Rolling Stones are an amazingly impressive band. They have been successful for more than 60 years, have made a ton of money, didn't implode because of "creative differences," and at least one of them is immortal, which is sort of cool in a scary way.

She's A Rainbow is a bit different for them (at least to my ear), although one of the reasons for their success has been their openness to changing their music to suit the fashion of the time. "Some Girls," I'm looking at you!

***

Carl Perkins' version of Blue Suede Shoes is far better than the more popular Elvis Presley version.

Fight Me!

***

Is Watermelon In Easter Hay good Zappa? Bad Zappa? Weird Zappa? Mainstream Pop Zappa? I have no idea...maybe Misanthropic Humanitarian can tell us!
***

The Band is a great rock band, and here is proof of that: Atlantic City, with the additional delicious reality that Springsteen sucks in comparison. His version of this song is sh*t compared to The Band's original.
***

Merle Haggard! Hey...I like country music. The Fightin' Side Of Me
***

Posted by: CBD at 07:30 PM




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1 When you’re running down the King, man, you’re gettin’ on the fightin’ side of me.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:34 PM (sk9DV)

2 What, no Bay City Rollers?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:35 PM (zZu0s)

3 Since I have your attention, I strongly recommend Mark Steyn’s weekly On the Town, at 12 Eastern on Serenade Radio on Saturdays. Fascinating bits about music and musicians.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:37 PM (sk9DV)

4 What, no Bay City Rollers?

Roxy!

Posted by: Nick Gilder at July 18, 2026 07:38 PM (sk9DV)

5 Martyn is funny

Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 18, 2026 07:39 PM (jrgJz)

6 "The governing body has set out a plan to improve inclusivity."

Not many black dudes in metal bands, either.

https://youtu.be/2sx8Yt-tAlU

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:42 PM (VHUov)

7 Ella Langley

youtu.be/9D-uBr4Y9T0

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:45 PM (jrKun)

8 Is this music only ??

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 07:47 PM (diia5)

9 Thanks for linking "Watermelon in Easter Hay", a new one to me. I'd call it "resplendent, transcendent Zappa"; it's more prog rock than jazz to my ears.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 07:47 PM (kpS4V)

10 Lotta St. Joan doing a cover of a Townes Van Zandt song. Kind of stumbled into her on YTube. I have no idea who she is other than she's from Germany.

youtu.be/Z1jIY9fMKTE

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:47 PM (jrKun)

11 I thought this was a movie review night. Oh well.

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 07:48 PM (lJ0H4)

12 Is this music only ??

If you can abide it, let the hurdy-gurdy play.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:49 PM (sk9DV)

13 Is this music only ??
Posted by: weft cut-loop


Political opinions must be expressed in non-Queensrÿche lyrics.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:49 PM (VHUov)

14 At the risk of inflaming CBD's temper -- it takes so little -- has anybody seen Nolan's "Odyssey"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (kpS4V)

15 Cole Chaney - The Big Empty
youtu.be/3eFKTmwzVcU

An Appalachian cover of the STP classic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (jrKun)

16 Political opinions must be expressed in non-Queensrÿche lyrics.
Posted by: mikeski


Harsh, but fair.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (diia5)

17 Anyway, Tate Brothers arrested in Miami, and...

@disclosetv 8m
UPDATE - UK's Crown Prosecution Service says they are prosecuting the Tate brothers for additional alleged offenses dating from 2010-2017, and will seek extradition to the UK.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 07:51 PM (diia5)

18 Political opinions must be expressed in non-Queensrÿche lyrics.
Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:49 PM (VHUov)

We've never gotten a ruling on Tears for Fears (or better covers.)

https://youtu.be/MM0BiOjd3hs

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

19 At the risk of inflaming CBD's temper -- it takes so little -- has anybody seen Nolan's "Odyssey"?

I have been tempted to rewatch Ulysses 31.

(I also heard there was a very good Odyssey out of Italy in 1968.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (sk9DV)

20 I thought Tate went down in flames after he lost that boxing match?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (zZu0s)

21 Some random girl in Applachia meadow, with her banjo.

Murphy Cambpell - Swannanoa Town

youtu.be/1vT8hN_2yx0

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (jrKun)

22 I have been tempted to rewatch Ulysses 31.

(I also heard there was a very good Odyssey out of Italy in 1968.)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:53 PM (sk9DV)

Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (zZu0s)

23 Off to the land of very bad music soon…

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (4g5V+)

24 What I was listening to while driving into work.

youtu.be/lvBOZCrJsAI

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (jrKun)

25 Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:54 PM (zZu0s)

That one was from 1997 and from the reviews I am seeing is infinitely better than the crap Mr, Nolan has served up.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (4g5V+)

26 I have been tempted to rewatch Ulysses 31.

(I also heard there was a very good Odyssey out of Italy in 1968.)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Watch last year's "The Return" with Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche.

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (lJ0H4)

27 Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?

No, never heard of that one. With Isabella Rossellini and Christopher Lee it has to be worth watching. With Bernadette Peters it has to be bad.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (sk9DV)

28 The Stones were “sloppy” but they had been playing so long together it was a precision sloppiness. I’m sure if a cover band tried to get sloppy they couldn’t do it

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (UHbyc)

29 Is Watermelon In Easter Hay good Zappa? Bad Zappa? Weird Zappa? Mainstream Pop Zappa?

Good. Not weird. Not mainstream, nor pop, but probably "accessible."

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 07:56 PM (VHUov)

30 At the risk of inflaming CBD's temper -- it takes so little -- has anybody seen Nolan's "Odyssey"?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 07:50 PM (kpS4V)
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Nope.

But I did watch a YouTube video about how The Odyssey has influenced science fiction.

Once you know that, you can't unsee it in a wide variety of science fiction stories.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 07:56 PM (FZ29D)

31 A bit too maudlin on that last.

Al Hirt

https://youtu.be/fqwIpH6phJs

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:57 PM (zZu0s)

32 Hiked 10 miles round trip on a section of the Caprock Canyons Trailway. After which I listened to Black Label Society’s “Death March”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:57 PM (4g5V+)

33 That one was from 1997 and from the reviews I am seeing is infinitely better than the crap Mr, Nolan has served up.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (4g5V+)

I saw it when it aired. Liked it. Armand Assante always came off a bit to sweaty/greasy to me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

34 27 Armand Assante from the ... early 90s?

No, never heard of that one. With Isabella Rossellini and Christopher Lee it has to be worth watching. With Bernadette Peters it has to be bad.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (sk9DV)

I thought Bernadette Peters did quite well as Circe.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:59 PM (4g5V+)

35 Vanessa Williams was in it as well playing... Calypso?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:59 PM (zZu0s)

36 Once you know that, you can't unsee it in a wide variety of science fiction stories.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 07:56 PM (FZ29D)

Anabasis by Xenophon is one i would like to see done well. But it is the basis for voyager (badly) or Battlestar Galactica when you think about it as well as a lot of isekai stories of military companies. Harry Turtledove did several.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:01 PM (zZu0s)

37 33 That one was from 1997 and from the reviews I am seeing is infinitely better than the crap Mr, Nolan has served up.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (4g5V+)

I saw it when it aired. Liked it. Armand Assante always came off a bit to sweaty/greasy to me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

How long ago was this? One of my friends taped it (!) A bunch of us met at his place and binged watched the whole thing in a setting late one evening over beer, all of us having read and loved The Odyssey.

It was an NBC 2 part miniseries.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:01 PM (4g5V+)

38 I generally like tango but don't speak tango so often I don't know what they’re warbling and kicking up their heals about. Among the tangos I especially like is Por una Cabeza, a song frequently heard in the movie as here from Scent of a Woman.

https://tinyurl.com/4ypkd2kp

I happened across a YT with the lyrics translated and now have a reasonable guess as to what the song is about. The title is a horse racing term meaning a close race, by a head. The song, I think, analogies love to betting on the ponies. You pays your money and you takes your chances often times not making it across the finish line.

https://tinyurl.com/3yk699ra

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:02 PM (ndZc7)

39 Musically, I recommend Symphony X “The Odyssey”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:03 PM (4g5V+)

40 "Is Watermelon In Easter Hay good Zappa? Bad Zappa? Weird Zappa? Mainstream Pop Zappa? I have no idea."

Not really. I don't know why music critics latch on to that song. There is so much Zappa that is better. Probably because music critics don't know shit about music.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:04 PM (MWfyi)

41 I thought Bernadette Peters did quite well "

Yep...

Oh, you meant acting?

Posted by: man at July 18, 2026 08:06 PM (cGjQu)

42 Listening to "Three Preludes" by George Gershwin played on mandolins.

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 08:08 PM (lJ0H4)

43 "Thanks for linking "Watermelon in Easter Hay", a new one to me. I'd call it "resplendent, transcendent Zappa"; it's more prog rock than jazz to my ears.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes"

It's at the end of the 3 album "Joe's Garage", after Joe gets out of prison for destroying a sexbot and becomes resigned to a world without music.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:09 PM (MWfyi)

44 At end of the Odyssey, he proves to Penelope that it's really him by shooting an arrow through a row of axeheads. Is that just a little Freudian?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:10 PM (ndZc7)

45 Sailboat racing and rock n roll? My cupeth runeth overeth.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (viF8m)

46 At end of the Odyssey, he proves to Penelope that it's really him by shooting an arrow through a row of axeheads. Is that just a little Freudian?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:10 PM (ndZc7)

The only man who can string my bow and hit the target.

Posted by: Penelope at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (zZu0s)

47 I have never been a fan of the Rolling Stones, but Keith Richards and Mick Jagger seem pretty cool.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (0aYVJ)

48 Wow, I love Joe's Garage Parts I and II, but didn't recognize that cut.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 08:12 PM (kpS4V)

49 Pot roast roasted. A leetle heavy on the salt, but it was thoroughly potted.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 08:14 PM (diia5)

50 Listening to SRV and Johnny Lang.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (abScH)

51 What, no Bay City Rollers?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:35 PM (zZu0s)

The nice lady who played Charlie's mum in "So I Married an Axe Murderer" passed away. Brenda Fricker. I loved how she kept hitting on Anthony LaPaglia.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (0aYVJ)

52 The title was supposedly from Zappa saying "Playing a guitar solo with this band is like trying to grow a watermelon in Easter hay".

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:16 PM (MWfyi)

53 I have never been a fan of the Rolling Stones, but Keith Richards and Mick Jagger seem pretty cool.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (0aYVJ)

Then I saw this.

https://youtu.be/BHkhIjG0DKc

Verdict: thats gayer than 10 guys blowing 12 guys on top of Liberace's piano.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

54 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 08:18 PM (Ia/+0)

55 I like "Black Napkins" better than "Watermelon" but what do I know I'm no music critic.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:18 PM (MWfyi)

56 Thx CBD
The Stones when they toured in 2022 played "Out of Time" live for the first time. One of my favorite songs of theirs.
Saw them twice , both times a blast

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:19 PM (OXYE0)

57 Atlantic City was a Springsteen original. If the Band did it, they were covering him, not the other way around.

Posted by: tsj017 at July 18, 2026 08:19 PM (xakWh)

58 After listening to a podcast on my phone all the way to Lancaster it shut off mobile data until I got home and picked up WiFi

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 08:20 PM (Ia/+0)

59 Great post

Posted by: LASue at July 18, 2026 08:20 PM (lCppi)

60 This Merle Haggard was a staple of Dead shows in the early 70s.

https://tinyurl.com/22as9dmy

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:21 PM (viF8m)

61 >https://youtu.be/BHkhIjG0DKc

Verdict: thats gayer than 10 guys blowing 12 guys on top of Liberace's piano.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

Classic. I don't care who you are, that's just hysterically funny.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (GTqXr)

62 The 1979 film The Warriors is based on a novel that was a retelling of The Anabasis.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (D7w1V)

63 Some random girl in Applachia meadow, with her banjo.

-
You said the magic word, "Appalachia", which allows me to post this even though it's not in Appalachia, in LA I think, but looks like it should be in Appalachia in a trailer house converted into a church. Watch these ladies flop around like fish after meeting self-described female "apostle". Yeah, it's apparently a SpongeBob service because these AWFLs are so overcome by meeting the Apostle they fall on the floor and flop like a fish.

https://tinyurl.com/4zz8jh7e

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (ndZc7)

64 Anyway, that stuff is ancient history. As far as new stuff goes, Angine de Poitrine has my attention. Once you get past the polkadots you can't look away.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:23 PM (MWfyi)

65 Then I saw this.

https://youtu.be/BHkhIjG0DKc

Verdict: thats gayer than 10 guys blowing 12 guys on top of Liberace's piano.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:17 PM (zZu0s)
----
Somehow, the Official Version in 4K is even gayer than the video you linked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opRRax4ph3E

Also one of the most 80s videos ever produced.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 08:24 PM (FZ29D)

66 Huh. Today is the anniversary of Ted Kennedy killing Mary Jo Kopecne and walking away scot free.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 08:25 PM (zZu0s)

67 41 I thought Bernadette Peters did quite well "

Yep...

Oh, you meant acting?
Posted by: man at July 18, 2026 08:06 PM (cGjQu)

Why, yes. : )

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:26 PM (4g5V+)

68 The Yankees baseball game is Postponed due to.................. OMG

"Canadian GLOBAL WARMING Forest Fires" !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 18, 2026 08:26 PM (6K4H4)

69
I like "Black Napkins" better than "Watermelon" but what do I know I'm no music critic.
Posted by: fd


I like Waka Jawaka better than Watermelon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 08:27 PM (Cqx++)

70 The Band covered Atlantic City on their album Jericho from the early 90s.
Agreed CBD, its way better than the original

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:27 PM (OXYE0)

71 If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:28 PM (MWfyi)

72 I like that Stones album. It came out when I was in high school.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 08:29 PM (Cqx++)

73 50 Listening to SRV and Johnny Lang.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (abScH)

On the way to see Rush we had to stop by the grave of SRV at Laurel Land cemetery in Dallas.

(And later on, in Arlington, to visit the Abbott brothers Moore Memorial Cemetery.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:29 PM (4g5V+)

74 "I like Waka Jawaka better than Watermelon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. "

It's like the critics have never heard any Zappa but Watermelon and Jazz From Hell.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:30 PM (MWfyi)

75 Is Stan Laurel buried in Laurel Land?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 08:31 PM (Cqx++)

76 >>The Band covered Atlantic City on their album Jericho from the early 90s.
Agreed CBD, its way better than the original

A thread about covers would be fun. So many covers I like even better than the originals.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:31 PM (viF8m)

77 71 If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:28 PM (MWfyi)

Very interesting dudes. I first heard of them three months or so ago.

A “news story” by CBC (or was it CTV) identified them as French. They are from Quebec. Dumbasses.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:31 PM (4g5V+)

78 Anyway, behind the graphic is a great American Rock And Roll song. Even Duncanthrax will like it...I think.

Well, since Duncanthrax is the one who points out, semi-consistently, that CBD declared The Beach Boys the world's greatest band, a declaration that Duncanthrax completely, totally, and 100% concurs with, I believe that the probability that Duncanthrax likes it is at least (unity - epsilon), if not higher.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (0sNs1)

79 Never was a big Rolling Stones fan, but “She’s a Rainbow” was always one of my favorites.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (l+3gx)

80 fd, did you find this group while sober ?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (abScH)

81 This came to me recently and I wrote it up. I guess this is a place to drop it: Hallucinating relationships

🎶Her voice was soft and cool
Her eyes were clear and bright
But she's not there
https://youtu.be/HN6sJBNaPXw

What were they smoking?

🎶I'll run to tenderly hold you
But darling, you won't be there
https://youtu.be/lecXDjlsA4E


Seems t'me I had thought of a third example, but forgot it before writing it down. As one does. Oh, what was that song - something something of you and me…


🎶Through the mirror of my mind
Time after time, I see reflections of you and me
Reflections of the way life used to be
https://youtu.be/8Nlbj1t99m8


No, no, that wasn't it…

Posted by: mindful webworker - the meandering mind ponders, and having pondered, dozes off at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (p+5Bi)

82 >Carl Perkins' version of Blue Suede Shoes is far better than the more popular Elvis Presley version.
----

because Carl wrote it

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 08:32 PM (ZxPkt)

83 One may point out, and someone likely will, that Duncanthrax agrees with CBD almost all the time, however.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:34 PM (0sNs1)

84 And if you like Angine de Poitrine, you will LOVE Meshuggah.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:34 PM (4g5V+)

85 >>One may point out, and someone likely will, that Duncanthrax agrees with CBD almost all the time, however.

Get a room.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:35 PM (viF8m)

86 Sloop John B (Remastered)
The Beach Boys

I knew the song, sorta. Never really paid attention to the lyrics before. Imagine my surprise as MiladyJo started singing along.

Her eldest brother (RIP) had a thing for sea stories, she says. Navy guy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - land-locked landlubber at July 18, 2026 08:35 PM (p+5Bi)

87 83 One may point out, and someone likely will, that Duncanthrax agrees with CBD almost all the time, however.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:34 PM (0sNs1)

Cow Demon would like to point out that Duncanthrax likes to refer to himself in the third person. But Cow Demon sees nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM (4g5V+)

88 Here's a weird thing. I have seen Tom Waits in *numerous* movies, such as The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, but I have never heard his music.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM (0aYVJ)

89 That The Beach Boys recorded Sloop John B was due entirely to the persuasive influence of Al Jardine, who was the composer of several of The Beach Boys best songs, including California Saga Pt. 3 and Lady Lynda.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:37 PM (0sNs1)

90 "fd, did you find this group while sober ?
Posted by: Ben Had"

I can't remember but they are fascinating to me. The drummer is right on despite his ridiculous outfit, and the white polkadot guy is using microtonal guitars to go somewhere new.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:38 PM (MWfyi)

91 I’ll never leave your Pizza burning… is my favorite Stones tune, probably. There are better tunes maybe but it has memories that go with it

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:38 PM (WcNzu)

92

https://tinyurl.com/22as9dmy

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:21 PM (viF8m)

Not really a fan of country music but I like some Dwight Yoakam.
https://youtu.be/_GjY5rHQZ14?si=g1j1p49VUDXWtO1e

Great cover of the Blasters original.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:39 PM (GTqXr)

93 >>Here's a weird thing. I have seen Tom Waits in *numerous* movies, such as The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, but I have never heard his music.

You have but might have heard him sing them.

Lickity splicly is and underused term.

https://tinyurl.com/mha9cjkx

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:40 PM (viF8m)

94 >If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:28 PM (MWfyi)

The anti-White Stripes?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (GTqXr)

95 Cow Demon would like to point out that Duncanthrax likes to refer to himself in the third person. But Cow Demon sees nothing wrong with that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM


Duncanthrax would like to point out that this is, in fact, the first time that Duncanthrax has referred to Duncanthrax in the third person.

Duncanthrax would like to further point out that he is not putting on aires by using "The" in front of his name, unlike, say, The Paolo or The Bob Dole.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (0sNs1)

96 I linked the studio version of "Rasa" last Music Thread, as one of the better things the YouTube Algorithm has pointed me to.

I guess this is a "live in the studio" version, since there's no audience (except the camera crew).

Ms. Svedberg isn't just a studio voice; this is about 95% of what she's got on the album. (album? EP? They've only released 5 songs.)

https://youtu.be/gMQBaCUxoy8

And the other two songs from the same session:
https://youtu.be/2wak338RrKA
https://youtu.be/9GzLHxhejSI

I hope she's got a good vocal coach. Or she's gonna burn her voice out singing from the diaphragm soles of her feet like that all the time.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (VHUov)

97 Tom Waits is a man acquired taste but anyone who can come up with the lyric:
The owner is a mental midget
With the IQ of a fence post

Is a talent. His "Downtown Train" is brilliant

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:42 PM (OXYE0)

98 To be fair, Cow Demon is not referring to himself as The Cow Demon, either.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:42 PM (0sNs1)

99 >The anti-White Stripes?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:41 PM (GTqXr)

And nice use of a loop pedal.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (GTqXr)

100 "The anti-White Stripes?
Posted by: Heavy Meta"

You may have spotted the joke.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (MWfyi)

101 Duncanthrax would like to further point out that he is not putting on aires by using "The" in front of his name, unlike, say, The Paolo or The Bob Dole.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


mikeski is kind of bummed that the rules about acknowledging your political advertisements landed one campaign too late, so we never got to hear the TV say "Bob Dole is Bob Dole, and Bob Dole approves this message."

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (VHUov)

102 I still own Some Girls, and it still kicks..but what I remember that is hilarious now is that the general take at the time was that it was amazing the Stones could still rock at their advanced age..they were in their mid 30s lol

Posted by: Azjaeger at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (3/XaG)

103 >You may have spotted the joke.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:43 PM (MWfyi)

I'm only one Scotch in.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (GTqXr)

104 Jack White looks like Sigourney Weaver's retarded baby brother.
No disrespect to Ms. Weaver. I like her.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (0aYVJ)

105 The only man who can string my bow and hit the target.
Posted by: Penelope at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (zZu0s)

Ring my be-e-ell, ring my bell!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 08:45 PM (l+3gx)

106 And nice use of a loop pedal.
Posted by: Heavy Meta


I'll be the judge of that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 08:46 PM (diia5)

107 >If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:

youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?

-
Well, she's no Leningrad Cowboys.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (ndZc7)

108 Love the Beach Boys, and Sloop John B is a wonderful song, but it got me thinking. Are they really what you think of as a Rock and Roll band? Some stuff, yes. Some stuff, IDK. They're almost in their own category, given Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic abilities.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (QaH55)

109 >>Not really a fan of country music but I like some Dwight Yoakam.

I'm not very knowledgeable about country but a lot of bands I do like cover country songs and I've come to really like some of it.

I like a pretty diverse collection of music. About the only stuff I have no time for is rap. Cause most of it isn't music.

If you've never been to a blue grass music festival on a summer day in some random cornfield you are missing some great stuff. And the influence that music has on a lot of rock is obvious when you hear it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (viF8m)

110 @102 I was in college in the early eighties. One of my house mates was a Jewish kid from Long Island who said " I have a tough time picturing my father playing bass for the Stones. " His dad was the same age as Wyman

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (OXYE0)

111 Speaking of Rolling Stones songs that are a bit different, Heaven is a good example. Originally recorded for the Emotional Rescue album, it didn't make the cut. It was later included on the Tattoo You album.

Although Keith Richards got a song writing credit (along with Jagger), Richards was not involved in the recording.

The song was also used in the movie Vanilla Sky.

The Rolling Stones - Heaven
https://youtu.be/UxYU_r4Aluc

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (syz1S)

112 Oldie but goodie. Song by Lobo in 1971.

Song about a guy and his girl traveling across America.
"Me and you and a dog named Boo" An easy listening song that was good driving music back in the day.
"How I love being a free man." is a good line in the song.

I can't believe that song came out 55 years ago.
I guess time does keep on slipping into the future.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (bqIVz)

113 the Stones could still rock at their advanced age..they were in their mid 30s lol
Posted by: Azjaeger at July 18, 2026 08:44 PM (3/XaG)

I recall an early Bloom County where the Stones were scheduled to play at a festival, and Bobbi (the teacher) shouts "Oh my God", and Milo says, "Right? These shmoes look almost 40."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (0aYVJ)

114
94 >If you don't know who Angine de Poitrine is, you have to watch this. Just give it a few minutes and you shall see:”

Doesn’t that mean the Anguish of Canadian French fries?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (l+3gx)

115 Would a pole dancer gyrating with a fan blowing on her be performing Air on a G-String?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:51 PM (0sNs1)

116 I’ll never leave your Pizza burning…

-
Meet the “Abolish Rent” Ideologue Teaching DSA Tenant Organizers How to Wage War on Landlords Tracy Rosenthal . . . Rosenthal says tenants pay rent “at the barrel of a gun,”

-
Now do pizza!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 08:51 PM (ndZc7)

117 The incomparable Bill Withers.

https://tinyurl.com/2afbcxen

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:52 PM (viF8m)

118 One of the commenters on the Angine vid said "I just fired my therapist"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 08:52 PM (OXYE0)

119 Here's a weird thing. I have seen Tom Waits in *numerous* movies, such as The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, but I have never heard his music.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:36 PM (0aYVJ)


Bone Machine is a haunting album. It is full of active contradictions. It is worth listening to at least once. It may draw you back in.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 08:53 PM (rbvCR)

120 OK... too good not to share...

Helen of Troy should not look like Helen DeTroit.

/rimshot

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 08:53 PM (mP0Kj)

121
The Stones album with "She's a Rainbow", His Satanic Majesty's Request, isn't a particularly good album, but it does have two great songs on it.

"She's a Rainbow", of course, and-

"2000 Light Years From Home"

https://tinyurl.com/mw3rtvzc

HSMR is a bit of a Sgt Pepper's ripoff back when the Stones and the Beatles were competing to see just who was the most far-out and hip and psychedelic.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2026 08:53 PM (iJfKG)

122 Della, and the dealer, and a dog named Jake, and a cat named Kalamazoo, left the city in a pickup truck, gonna make their dreams come true

If that cat could talk, what tales he'd tell about Della and the dealer and the dog as well, but the cat was cool, and he never said a mumbling word.

Hoyt Axton was a treasure

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:54 PM (0aYVJ)

123 Huh. Today is the anniversary of Ted Kennedy killing Mary Jo Kopecne and walking away scot free.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Keeping it on-topic.....

https://youtu.be/fnFoxHIUIt4
https://youtu.be/JbQFMkTINTY
https://youtu.be/doWTE0aaIjM

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 08:54 PM (VHUov)

124 Beach Boys were in a pretty weird spot by the late 1960s and just weren’t considered cool any longer. Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM (WcNzu)

125 >I like a pretty diverse collection of music. About the only stuff I have no time for is rap. Cause most of it isn't music.

--

I do as well - I have very eclectic tastes. I categorize old school hip hop as its own genre - but I'm much too old and much to white to appreciate 'rap'. I can respect the brothas throwin' down rhymes, but I don't have the context to understand, let alone like it. Most of what I've heard is banal grunting over a heavy bass track.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM (GTqXr)

126 I saw the RS on 1975, at Cleveland Municipal Stadium, and I though they were old back then …

They’re the ultimate musical cockroaches

Posted by: browndog painting it black at July 18, 2026 08:56 PM (TTAGa)

127 Keith described “Sergeant pepper” album as “rubbish” and he wasn’t too far off.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:57 PM (WcNzu)

128 Recognized as one of the best songs to ever come out of New Zealand. Which is kinda sad.

Still, fun and the large blond dancing girls are nice.

https://tinyurl.com/yw7yphb8

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:58 PM (viF8m)

129 Over at Steve Hoffman’s music site, there’s a 6 page thread discussing who played the drums at the end of “Dear Prudence”, a Beatles tune. They are just nuts. “That’s George on take 12 blowing his nose!”

Jeeze Louise.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 09:00 PM (WcNzu)

130
Speaking of music in movies...

There's a great little, low budget multiverse thriller
titled-

"Redux Redux" currently streaming on Hulu.

It got justifiably good reviews and concerns a woman traveling across the multiverse, hunting down versions of the main who killed her daughter and killing them...hijinks ensue.

Well worth your time.

But the music part comes in at the very beginning with the credits and title.

It a very odd, heavy, almost oppressive piece of music that drew me right in even before the movie started.

I'd love to get a recording of it.

Anyway, check out the movie - great script, acting, and directing - and you'll her a very cool piece of music.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2026 09:02 PM (iJfKG)

131 I'm going to string a hot wire around my lawn.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:02 PM (abScH)

132 Beach Boys were in a pretty weird spot by the late 1960s and just weren’t considered cool any longer. Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM


I would say that's not incorrect, but also incomplete. The Beach Boys and The Beatles had a significant creative rivalry. Paul McCartney called "God Only Knows" the greatest song ever written.

The Beatles’ Rubber Soul inspired Brian Wilson to write Pet Sounds, which in turn was a massive influence on Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band and its pre-release, non-album single “Strawberry Fields Forever,” the very song that caused Brian to abandon his storied Smile album, claiming The Beatles had already achieved what Smile had set out to do. Pop music was advancing so quickly in the 1960s, and it was largely because its two leading bands were constantly trying to outshine each other.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 09:02 PM (0sNs1)

133 31 A bit too maudlin on that last.

Al Hirt

https://youtu.be/fqwIpH6phJs

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 07:57 PM (zZu0s)

funny, have always liked his sound ...he always said he wasn't a jazz trumpeter, but , I really wish he had done stuff with Goodman, Miller knock off bands, etc, if he wasn't wanting to Bop, Be-Bop... there is a very cool clip of Hirt with Red Nichols and Pete Condoli https://youtu.be/Aea21Btwf-4?si=dUQLx8tcdbbT_6Sp

Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:03 PM (EDeJ/)

134 >128 Recognized as one of the best songs to ever come out of New Zealand. Which is kinda sad.

Still, fun and the large blond dancing girls are nice.

https://tinyurl.com/yw7yphb8

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 08:58 PM (viF8m)

I'll take Kimbra over that. She easy on the eyes, plus that phat bass track.
https://youtu.be/5eDQdYIqhbE?si=ZL8evmCTPNdIvjOq

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 09:03 PM (GTqXr)

135 I like the music threads. I end up with a lot to listen to that I would not otherwise run across. Could we have them a little more often? Maybe cut one of those boring movie threads.😜

Bonus: playing those songs loosens up my YouTube algorerhythm. Or, ought to.

Posted by: mindful webworker - algorechakras at July 18, 2026 09:04 PM (p+5Bi)

136 Michael Stanley Band

youtu.be/raH8s8O3qyk

RIP Michael Stanley

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 09:05 PM (jrKun)

137 Pouring down rain, glad I got home when I did

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 09:05 PM (Ia/+0)

138 124 Beach Boys were in a pretty weird spot by the late 1960s and just weren’t considered cool any longer. Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 08:55 PM (WcNzu)

Part of what destroyed them was that Brian bypassed the real band, and worked with the Wrecking Crew (studio musicians) almost exclusively.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (mP0Kj)

139 This will get Eris dancing.

https://tinyurl.com/mu2hpmd2

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (viF8m)

140 I recall an early Bloom County where the Stones were scheduled to play at a festival, and Bobbi (the teacher) shouts "Oh my God", and Milo says, "Right? These shmoes look almost 40."
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 08:50 PM (0aYVJ)
----
I don't think the Stones were going to play at a festival.

I believe Milo had booked them for their school dance (which makes it even funnier).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (FZ29D)

141 Brian wigged out and became a recluse and they couldn’t put together albums that would sell.
Posted by: Common Tater


Marillion got a novelty song out of it.

https://youtu.be/yFdXuaWpcI0

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 09:06 PM (VHUov)

142 I am soooo stealing that top picture

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 09:07 PM (2WIwB)

143 And for those on the edge of liking country?

May I suggest a casual stroll through the Brad Pailsley songlist?

Whiskey Lullaby? I'm gonna miss her? Online?

100's of songs... a lot with humor.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:08 PM (mP0Kj)

144 Like jazz, no good country was released after 1965.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2026 09:09 PM (diia5)

145 Peter Gabriel - San Jacinto (Live)

youtu.be/_61sjeayD1M

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 09:11 PM (jrKun)

146 98 To be fair, Cow Demon is not referring to himself as The Cow Demon, either.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 08:42 PM (0sNs1)

There is no “The Cow Demon”, comrade. There are cow demons and snake spirits and ALL will be swept away.

Posted by: Mao at July 18, 2026 09:11 PM (4g5V+)

147 Barenaked Ladies had the song "Brian Wilson" with the line "Lying in bed , just like Brian Wilson did". Pretty good tune for a weird subject

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 09:12 PM (OXYE0)

148
Before each show of the summer Houston dog shows, the National Anthem is sung by one of the club members, who has a nice voice that is, all the same, very gentle and languid.

I've concluded that it's far better to have the Anthem sung by everyone in attendance. It might sound awful, but it would be an act of community uniting those present. It would also end "creative" interpretations, which can't happen soon enough.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 09:13 PM (O0L8i)

149 143 And for those on the edge of liking country?

May I suggest a casual stroll through the Brad Pailsley songlist?

Whiskey Lullaby? I'm gonna miss her? Online?

100's of songs... a lot with humor.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:08 PM.

I never knew any of George Strait's music until I heard someone do a cover of "Amarillo by Morning". I really liked it and started checking out more of his songs. It turned me into a fan.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:15 PM (Lzhdy)

150 This is not for radio, so I guess it's okay here:

https://youtu.be/2lZ_slY8Zxo

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 09:16 PM (VHUov)

151 Used to love Bloom County. Would love to see it come back and comment on our current political landscape.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 09:17 PM (2Ez/1)

152 My good luck song I listen to before trips.

https://tinyurl.com/33ja8atx

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:18 PM (viF8m)

153
151 Used to love Bloom County. Would love to see it come back and comment on our current political landscape.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 09:17 PM (2Ez/1)

Only if someone who doesn’t have their head up their ass is writing it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 09:19 PM (l+3gx)

154 I never knew any of George Strait's music until I heard someone do a cover of "Amarillo by Morning". I really liked it and started checking out more of his songs. It turned me into a fan.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:15 PM (Lzhdy)

There’s always “Is This The Way To Amarillo?” by Tony Christie.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 09:19 PM (4g5V+)

155 >And for those on the edge of liking country?
-----

come down from the ledge
we can work this out

Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2026 09:20 PM (ZxPkt)

156 >100's of songs... a lot with humor.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:08 PM (mP0Kj)

Many years ago, I worked as a book designer. One of the book covers I designed was being printed at a printing plant in western Va. Due to circumstances, I had to drive there in the wee morning hours. The only radio stations I could receive were what I would consider hard core country. It was...interesting to my young Yankee ears.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 09:20 PM (GTqXr)

157 108 Love the Beach Boys, and Sloop John B is a wonderful song, but it got me thinking. Are they really what you think of as a Rock and Roll band? Some stuff, yes. Some stuff, IDK. They're almost in their own category, given Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic abilities.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 18, 2026 08:47 PM (QaH55)

Well, they popularized Surf Rock and the guitar solos on their early singles copied Chuck Berry, so I think of them as a rock and roll band, probably America's greatest.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 09:26 PM (y171U)

158 Popped up in the sidebar of the Angine de Poitrine vid:

Please STOP Sending Me This
Rick Beato
https://youtu.be/zO8bt94-ybg

Posted by: mindful webworker - dot-ilism at July 18, 2026 09:27 PM (p+5Bi)

159 154- There’s always “Is This The Way To Amarillo?” by Tony Christie.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 09:19 PM

(muffled snickering)

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:29 PM (Lzhdy)

160 I never knew any of George Strait's music until I heard someone do a cover of "Amarillo by Morning". I really liked it and started checking out more of his songs. It turned me into a fan.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:15 PM (Lzhdy)

the pride of Pearsall, TX. He used to have a 2 day music festival in San Antonio.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 09:30 PM (wOO3z)

161 If'n you can make it through the Paisley version of Whiskey Lulluby, with a dry eye...

Yer a better Man than I am Charlie Brown.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:31 PM (mP0Kj)

162 Dancing must be a lost concept.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:33 PM (abScH)

163 135 I like the music threads. I end up with a lot to listen to that I would not otherwise run across. Could we have them a little more often? Maybe cut one of those boring movie threads.😜

Bonus: playing those songs loosens up my YouTube algorerhythm. Or, ought to.

Posted by: mindful webworker - algorechakras at July 18, 2026 09:04 PM (p+5Bi)

well, having ZERO idea what you like....you are welcome in advance https://youtu.be/aYDfwUJzYQg?si=Qb4auMwjUZhxT2oR

Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:34 PM (EDeJ/)

164 Keb Mo

https://tinyurl.com/525wss27

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:37 PM (viF8m)

165 Dancing must be a lost concept.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:33 PM


Well, it didn't help when that meanie foreman came out and yelled at his men for their Terpsichorean frolicking.

Posted by: Kansas City Men's Dance Troupe at July 18, 2026 09:39 PM (0sNs1)

166 Ask your podiatrist if Terpsichorin is right for you.

Posted by: Big Fiser at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (2Ez/1)

167 If'n you can make it through the Paisley version of Whiskey Lulluby, with a dry eye...

Yer a better Man than I am Charlie Brown.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 09:31 PM (mP0Kj)

Its sad but it's also more than a bit ridiculous.

1) War weary veteran returning home, troubled by the things he's done. The loving letters from his wife one of the only things that got him through.

2) He comes home to their house (would be even better if they had made it a house he built for her.)

3) He find her, not just banging a dude, but banging one in their bed.

Ok, fine enough (although she's retarded. She might not have known when, but she should have known he was coming home any day.)

1) the first part of the song is fine. He drinks himself to death, that all scans. The line 'She put him out, like a midnight cigarette' is dynamite

2) but then we are to believe that she was so heartbroken that she drank herself to death? Please. She would have moved and had done. She did not give a flying fuck about him or things would not have been set up that way.

And I am supposed to feel sympathy for this skank? No thanks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (zZu0s)

168 The video was directed by Ricky Schroeder, btw. He also played the veteran.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:43 PM (zZu0s)

169 Years ago, I bought an album from the metal band Xandria. They are still in my playlists, but I had mostly forgotten about them. At least until a week or so ago, when YouTube recommended their new single to me. It's called 'Northstar,' and it's....pretty good. I think I'll be buying the album when the full thing gets released.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 18, 2026 09:44 PM (3v7ra)

170 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (zZu0s)

Fuckin' Jody *spit*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 09:45 PM (0aYVJ)

171 The trailer for "I Play Rocky" came out two days ago and has created a lot of buzz. It looks like the movie could be a hit and I am interested in seeing it when it is released in November. Anyone else here see the trailer?

Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 09:45 PM (y171U)

172 Clarence Gatemouth Brown came up on JackStraw's link. That is my kinda music.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:46 PM (abScH)

173 Apologies, line is 'She put him out, like the burning end of a midnight cigarette.'

A great line and the song itself is great, it's just the video is so overdone as to be laughable. Its a straight version of the 'Saddest Country Western Song Ever.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:47 PM (zZu0s)

174 Ella Langley is not hard on the eyes.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:48 PM (qFwJc)

175 171 The trailer for "I Play Rocky" came out two days ago and has created a lot of buzz. It looks like the movie could be a hit and I am interested in seeing it when it is released in November. Anyone else here see the trailer?
Posted by: Joemarine at July 18, 2026 09:45 PM

I did. It looks good but I found it unsettling hearing Stallone's voice coming out of another person's mouth. I don't know why but it was just so distracting to me.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:49 PM (Lzhdy)

176 Howdy CBD! Love me some Merle / Fightin' Side.

And totally agree with you on Carl Perkins Blue Suede rendition

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 18, 2026 09:51 PM (kOluj)

177 >>Dancing must be a lost concept.

I didn't lose it. I never had it. I aspire to be as good a dancer as Elaine on Seinfeld. White boy overbite disease.

Still, when I hear music that touches me I move.

https://tinyurl.com/5yaz8jps


Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM (viF8m)

178 I did. It looks good but I found it unsettling hearing Stallone's voice coming out of another person's mouth. I don't know why but it was just so distracting to me.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:49 PM (Lzhdy)

LOL, perhaps too good an impression? Yeah, was/is weird to hear

Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM (EDeJ/)

179 You can post a link you know.

https://youtu.be/V_g_Ut0jO-0

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 09:53 PM (2Ez/1)

180 I think that's one of the reasons I am not too into country: the maudlin storytelling. That song sounds like a Telemundo soap opera. (I freely admit this is all subjective, and that I listen to plenty of things that other people would detest and/or scorn.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2026 09:53 PM (yjflf)

181 The first song I learned to play on guitar was Merle Haggard's Okie from Muskogee, because it only has two chords. I did add more chords to my repertoire later on.

Posted by: huerfano at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (VJX5o)

182 178-LOL, perhaps too good an impression? Yeah, was/is weird to hear
Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM

Exactly! It just seems like laying it on a little too thick!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (Lzhdy)

183 Its a straight version of the 'Saddest Country Western Song Ever.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:47 PM


In addition to everything else, if his truck didn't get wrecked, his dog didn't die, he didn't lose the bull-riding event by 0.8 points, AND his horse trailer wasn't crapped in by penguins, it's not the saddest country song ever.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (0sNs1)

184 Just about the end of the music thread - but I think I know the sound track that goes with this news item:

“The US is currently striking Iran, with reports that President Trump told the military to "rain hell" down on Iran after the death of 2 American soldiers from an Iranian ballistic missile.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 09:55 PM (l+3gx)

185 You know racism is over when the argument is that black people aren't yachting enough because of racism

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 09:56 PM (sKqQm)

186 JackStraw, checkout Clarence Gatemout Brown doing Honky Tonk

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 09:56 PM (abScH)

187 I see the cops in Maine shot a guy that tried to hit them with a car in 2019. The Maine police and state government ruled it a good shoot because if you weaponize a car the cops can and should shoot you.

I wonder what is different now?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 09:57 PM (sKqQm)

188 In addition to everything else, if his truck didn't get wrecked, his dog didn't die, he didn't lose the bull-riding event by 0.8 points, AND his horse trailer wasn't crapped in by penguins, it's not the saddest country song ever.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 09:54 PM (0sNs1)

Isnt... his mom's in prison or something? Not dead but...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:59 PM (zZu0s)

189 Oh and seeing what the left's argument actually is for why it was ok for cops to shoot a perp trying to run them down in 2019 but not for ICE now is...its ICE and ICE are literal NAZIs.

Now that's some logic right there isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM (sKqQm)

190 Turn that racket down and get upstairs!

ONT is NOOD!

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 10:00 PM (VHUov)

191 >>JackStraw, checkout Clarence Gatemout Brown doing Honky Tonk

Will do. When you visit I will take you dancing.

I know a place.

https://tinyurl.com/4szyhj38

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 10:01 PM (viF8m)

192 I wonder what is different now?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2026 09:57 PM (sKqQm)

I agree with the Asmongold take that the reason the left does not tell people to protest in a civil manner but just keep stoking them is because they WANT people to get shot- even their adherents. They are grist for the mill.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 10:03 PM (zZu0s)

193 And I am supposed to feel sympathy for this skank? No thanks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 18, 2026 09:41 PM (zZu0s)


The other side of that is The Steeldrivers' If It Hadn't Been For Love

youtu.be/QAxEJ67MIH4

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:05 PM (rbvCR)

194 Oops!

Springsteen actually wrote Atlantic City. It's just that The Band did such a better job that it seems like it's their own song.

Mea culpa... mea culpa.. Mea Maxima culpa

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 10:06 PM (l4RKn)

195 This one is for Anna Puma, Sayo Komada doing a cover or the Red Hot Chili Peppers' song Snow, on the Shamisen

youtu.be/H7mPTcBSuYI

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:14 PM (rbvCR)

196 Posted by: Moonbeam at July 18, 2026 09:49 PM (Lzhdy)

LOL, perhaps too good an impression? Yeah, was/is weird to hear
Posted by: zigggggy at July 18, 2026 09:52 PM (EDeJ/)

Hell, I can do a pretty good Stallone impersonation. But I look more like Wilford Brimley. No Italian in my heritage.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)

197 Sigh

Willowed yet again

whatever

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (0aYVJ)

198 Watermelon is great Frank.

Fighting Side is great Merle.

That tweet made me LOL, good choice CBD

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at July 19, 2026 08:11 AM (lNLJj)

199 row, row, row your boat.
goat's head soup came out in mid school. last time i paid them any attention.
all the early sun label rockabilly is outstanding. get volumes one and two.
zappa noodle guitaring is a phone in, always with the xylarimba thing.
is that the singing drummer? boss should never have touched that song.
i won six tix to see merle (or was it waylon) with kris at the rosemont. they gave us folding chairs in the orchestra pit.

Posted by: cmeat at July 19, 2026 12:13 PM (R11M+)

200 144 choctaw bingo.

Posted by: cmeat at July 19, 2026 12:22 PM (R11M+)

Hobby Thread - July 18, 2026 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is into Heavy Metal. It spun and spun and landed on a metal working theme for this Hobby Thread.

Top photo: The first 52 cars bearing the Porsche name were built in a small sawmill near Gmünd, Austria. They were hand hammered aluminum on wooden forms. The example in this photo is the 8th oldest Porsche in existence and still runs.

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Let's talk Heavy Metal! Much of hobbying, building, and bodging generally involves either joining things together or cutting things apart. If you join or separate metal, you get to use hammers and fire. Sounds good, right?

Many home hobbyists are not welders or metalworkers. Some are and either learned in school metal shop or under the wing of a mentor. Some work with metal as a profession and transfer those skills to hobbying. Wood is cheaper than metal but it is also softer and less durable. Nobody builds engines out of wood.

Metalworking can involve shaping, forging, welding, casting, punching, milling, bending, extruding, rolling, and more.

Are you wise in the ways of metal? What skills do you have? How do you use them? How did you learn? What would you like to learn or try?

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What are you hobbying?

The thread is not limited to to the theme. Anything (legal) you are hobbying is welcome. Even if the theme does not speak to you, you might learn something or be entertained. If not, find something else or offer something else relating to hobbying. If all of that fails, just check in and say hello.

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring churches). Pants are optional. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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Welding basics:

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Metal crafts (the pipe wrench T-Rex at the beginning is awesome) - BTW, watch because there are some fun pieces, but mute the sound to avoid the AI narration:

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This is a great example of a video that pulls you into a rabbit hole you didn't know existed and then makes you care about it. "What makes this anvil so special?" (I also did not know that some people collect anvils. No reason why not - just never occurred to me before.)

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SuperfastMatt gets two entries in the content today. If you're into 3D printing, watch this video. You might be thinking "doesn't 3D printing involve plastic, not metal?" Watch and learn.

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Yes, the title says V12 epoxy table, but the video also has plenty of metal work. But V12 epoxy table should be enough to get your attention.

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A master coppersmith at work - lots and lots of little hammer taps:

Where did that copper come from?

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Forging axes by hand in Sweden (not so much a hobby as it is an industrial documentary, but fascinating to watch):

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Inheritance Machining is a YouTube channel that specifically focuses on machining metal. The scripts are very well written and presented and the videos well produced. No overdone clickbait bells and whistles. I struggled to pick a representative video but eventually landed on this one because it compares and contrasts different tools to accomplish the same objective.

Watch this for the backstory and shop tour - it is a good story told well and an enjoyable watch even if you're not into machining:

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Are you wise in the ways of custom metal cutting and fabrication? Do you like factory tours? This video is for you. Very impressive.

This is not a commercial or endorsement but SendCutSend operates an online platform for instant quoting and ordering. Customers upload CAD files, get immediate pricing, then customize with services like bending or finishing. Parts ship within days with no no minimum order quantities.

The company targets makers, hobbyists, small businesses, startups, and large enterprises by removing traditional manufacturing barriers like long lead times, high minimums, and outsourcing.

They operate several facilities across the US and Canada.

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This is way beyond hobbying, but watch this if you want to see the future of metal working. It is called Roboforming from a company called Machina Labs.

Both SendCutSend and Machina Labs are trying to solve the impediments to metal working - customization and scale. In the past, the fixed costs of tool and die making meant zero iteration and a high minimum production volume to make the cost worthwhile. Cost effective customization, with scale when needed? 3-D printing is another closely related technology that is changing the equation. Interesting times...

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Investigators release preliminary report on LEGO 747 and Space Shuttle crash

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did a small scale theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comment from last week:

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Bonus content based on last week's theme: this mixes woodworking, epoxy, electrical and a touch of 3D printing. Way too small and fiddly for my dino fingers and patience but quite an impressive result.

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Reminder: if you put links in the comments, use a URL shortener and describe what you're linking to. Failing to do either or both makes you barrel-eligible. Don't make people click to find out what you're linking.

A metal thread without an Iron Maiden link? Surely not. Here you go. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Or just email to say hello. Do mighty things.

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1 Other than 3d printing busts, haven't been doing much hobbying lately.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (XV/Pl)

2 Where did that copper come from?
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I just let the automatic miner feed it into my automatic smelter in Satisfactory and 99.99% pure copper ingots are automatically produced for me.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (FZ29D)

3 Hobbying? Finished a new short story today, 5300 words. Probably too long. Don't care.

The USPS site says my most recent pipe purchase, a vintage Comoy's straight pot-bowl sandblast, is out for delivery. We haven't seen any mail yet at all, so maybe it'll show up. Comoy was a French company, but they were known also for the pipes they made in England. This one has "Made in London England" stamped into it. I'm trying to decide what kind of tobacco to smoke in it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:40 PM (wzUl9)

4 (I also did not know that some people collect anvils. No reason why not - just never occurred to me before.)

"Collect" may be the wrong word.

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (VHUov)

5 I did a drawing for an online class. The task was "draw yourself in the style of a show you like."

https://tinyurl.com/2s6ryjc9

A very very rare example of a self portrait, and you can probably see why there aren't many of those.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (CHHv1)

6 Many years ago, the Hubley Corp., who used to make metal toy guns, also offered a line of metal scale model automobile kits. The bodies were metal, but the other bits like tires and interiors were plastic or rubber. Not sure if the chassis was metal; you'd think it would need to be to handle the weight of the body. The engines might have been plastic. I never bought or assembled one.

Not exactly metal *working*, but sorta close.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (wzUl9)

7 That’s a 356 right?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 05:44 PM (D7w1V)

8 5 A very very rare example of a self portrait, and you can probably see why there aren't many of those.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM
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What did you do to irritate Batman?

Posted by: TRex - metallic dino at July 18, 2026 05:44 PM (XfIK1)

9 7 That’s a 356 right?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 05:44 PM
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Yep.

Posted by: TRex - alumninum dino at July 18, 2026 05:46 PM (XfIK1)

10 I did a drawing for an online class. The task was "draw yourself in the style of a show you like."

https://tinyurl.com/2s6ryjc9

A very very rare example of a self portrait, and you can probably see why there aren't many of those.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026


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If I could draw half as well as you, I'd draw myself as Napoleon Solo, or standing with him and April Dancer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:47 PM (wzUl9)

11 Saw a beautifully restored 356 coupe the other day. Such a beautiful car.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:51 PM (viF8m)

12 I'm interested in 3d printing models for jewelry or other small parts and then using those for lost-wax metal casting. The equipment is not super expensive if you're OK with Chinese clones but I just don't have space for it right now.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 05:54 PM (vTZFs)

13 Tried to fix a non-booting laptop. Failed. It was free, so I'll throw it on the parts pile for the working twin I was also gifted. If that one dies maybe I'll have a working spare part for it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 18, 2026 05:55 PM (+9wcF)

14 11 Saw a beautifully restored 356 coupe the other day. Such a beautiful car.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:51 PM
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The bodywork on the Gmund 356 pictured above is not pretty. It shows the hammer marks and metal working witness marks. I'm glad it remains original. Other survivors are similar.

Posted by: TRex - hammering dino at July 18, 2026 05:57 PM (XfIK1)

15 We would be hobbying in the form of turning the upper frame from a 5th-wheel trailer into a screen to put dirt through, but it's hot and that's sapping all of our motivation.

I really want to test out my welding gloves....

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 18, 2026 05:57 PM (9C1ml)

16 Saw a beautifully restored 356 coupe the other day. Such a beautiful car.
Posted by: JackStraw

Used to see them all the time in Santa Barbara in my youth. We called them a Bathtub Porsche .

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 18, 2026 05:59 PM (NnhvP)

17 This’s a heap ‘o stuff!

Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2026 06:04 PM (LHPAg)

18 >>Used to see them all the time in Santa Barbara in my youth. We called them a Bathtub Porsche .

This area is filled with vintage cars including Porsche clubs. On any given summer weekend it's common to see a line of dozens of vintage Porsches going going for a tour.

There's a Cars & Coffee rendezvous at Salve Regina University tomorrow. Jay Leno used to host some, not sure if he's still doing it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:11 PM (viF8m)

19 Good old school US steel Anvils are now stupid money, maybe a thousand bucks for good serviceable. Good to know if you spot one at a garage sale or something like that.

My great grandfather was a Scandi Iceback Blacksmith up in Minnesota, I was going to get a big elm stump and an Anvil just to have one in my garage, thought it would be neat. Until I saw what they cost. I didn’t want an Anvil that bad. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 06:17 PM (Gs6BU)

20 Years ago I helped a SCCA racer with his 911 in some old school racing. Just doing tire changes, fetching stuff. The league he raced in was... fairly non-competitive in the strictest sense.

He prodded me to try it. So I bought a Porsche 914 and proceeded to embarrass myself.

But it was mega fun. While it lasted.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 06:18 PM (jehhT)

21 I am a Quality Engineering Technician at an additive manufacturing [3d printing, mostly titanium] start-up now, but I had a couple decades as a heavy metal fabricator.

I learned to weld by reading some stuff, buying a welder, and making stuff. I wanted to make medieval-style armor, so that was why I decided to learn to weld. And other metal-shaping skills.

I got my first fabricating job because I knew how to weld and cut, and I could work from blueprints and operate measuring tools.

Most of my fabricating was in water control. I built crest gates and roller gates that help prevent catastrophic flooding all over the US.

Unfortunately, working metal as a job eventually killed off my motivation to work metal as a hobby. So it's been 30+ years since I made any armor.

I still like my home 3d printer, though. It's my only "making stuff" hobby now.

Posted by: Gundo at July 18, 2026 06:19 PM (n6zcR)

22 >>He prodded me to try it. So I bought a Porsche 914 and proceeded to embarrass myself.

Most fun car I ever owned. Pain in the ass to work on but it handled like a go kart.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:21 PM (viF8m)

23 The only thing worse than “out for delivery” and not getting the parcel, is scheduling a pickup. “Your package has been successfully picked up!” the email sez.

Yeah, no. No it hasn’t. I’m looking at it right now, sitting on my porch. Assholes.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 06:21 PM (Gs6BU)

24 3 ... "The USPS site says my most recent pipe purchase, a vintage Comoy's straight pot-bowl sandblast, is out for delivery."

Wolfus,
Hope the pipe arrives soon. As to the tobacco, most straight pot shapes I've seen have a reasonably large bowl. Makes me think a flake tobacco, partly broken up, would work well in that shape.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 06:22 PM (yTvNw)

25 You can't beat a genuine ACME anvil.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 06:23 PM (Cqx++)

26 21 I am a Quality Engineering Technician at an additive manufacturing [3d printing, mostly titanium] start-up now, but I had a couple decades as a heavy metal fabricator.
Posted by: Gundo at July 18, 2026 06:19 PM
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Thanks for checking in. Anything in the content videos above resonate with you?

Posted by: TRex - roboformed dino at July 18, 2026 06:23 PM (XfIK1)

27 15 We would be hobbying in the form of turning the upper frame from a 5th-wheel trailer into a screen to put dirt through, but it's hot and that's sapping all of our motivation.

I really want to test out my welding gloves....

Posted by: FeatherBlade
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Are you panning for gold?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:24 PM (JS6jE)

28 Does anyone do restoration work on Porsche 914s anymore? I know there used to be shop in Atlanta that specialized in it.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 06:28 PM (D7w1V)

29 This wasn't deliberate but I noticed my last several pipe purchases have been Stokkebye 4th Generation pipes. (I like many of their tobacco blends as swell.) The shapes and sizes appealed, along with the price. They are a good value.

The 4th Generation 1931 blend is a navy flake. It is flavorful, no harshness, and smokes slow and cool. Wish it was offered in bulk. I actually prefer it to Escudo which is high praise.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 06:29 PM (yTvNw)

30 ***
The bodywork on the Gmund 356 pictured above is not pretty. It shows the hammer marks and metal working witness marks. I'm glad it remains original. Other survivors are similar.

Posted by: TRex - hammering dino
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Friend of the family was an iron worker/fabricator. A road accident bashed a rear fender of his pickup. Instead of buying a good one from the junk yard (cheap, in the day) he built an new fender, staying at the shop after hours. It was perfect.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:35 PM (JS6jE)

31 Are sports a hobby? France coming back like crazy! What!

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 06:35 PM (hftzA)

32 My dad and I restored a 1957 356A. I'm at dinner. More later...

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 06:36 PM (K7FuP)

33 28 Does anyone do restoration work on Porsche 914s anymore? I know there used to be shop in Atlanta that specialized in it.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 18, 2026 06:28 PM (D7w1V)

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Any good VW restorer should work, because, well, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2026 06:39 PM (u/oMr)

34 Never did any metal working although my grandfather was a master tool and die machinist. His department designed and made the prototype barrels for warship guns after WW I. Apparently, when my mom was a little girl he would bring home some of the shavings from the metal lathe work and she would sprinkle them in her hair as 'curls' for dress up. Considering how tiny she was, she probably looked like a decorative Munchkin. Wish there was a photo of that.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 06:39 PM (yTvNw)

35 I grew a Tobacco plant in a container once. It’s easy to grow. The bugs sure liked it though, cutworms or something. Curing tobacco is a little tricky, though I didn’t attempt that. It made perfectly serviceable smokes, beats sniffing burlap. It’s kinda pretty flower. Pipe tobacco is heavily flavored, it would be interesting to know all the stuff they do, fermentation and such, to smooth it out. I’m sure their flavorings are a closely held secret.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 06:39 PM (Gs6BU)

36 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.

No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

37 >>Any good VW restorer should work, because, well, you know.

Blasphemer.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:44 PM (viF8m)

38 I became friendly with the intermodal manager where I worked a long time ago. He had some track work done and gave me a piece of rail about 16" long.

It's heavy! I smoothed the cut marks and polished it, and it's on my work bench for when I need something solid to bang on.

It makes me smile every time I use it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 06:48 PM (l4RKn)

39 >>>Apparently, when my mom was a little girl he would bring home some of the shavings from the metal lathe work and she would sprinkle them in her hair as 'curls' for dress up.
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Worked in an old time machine shop. The floor looked like a twinkling night. The concrete floor was black from oil (they all were back then) and it was full of steel shavings.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:51 PM (JS6jE)

40 The Porsche 914 platform has been extensively modified.

Can you imagine an eight cylinder 914? Two exist. Must be a rocketship go-kart.

Posted by: TRex - rennsport dino at July 18, 2026 06:52 PM (XfIK1)

41 Also inherited from late BF: his dad's other bodyworking tools, dollies and hammers.

He was the last of his family line, so that's how I ended up with the stuff.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:53 PM (rdVOm)

42 Never did any metal working although my grandfather was a master tool and die machinist. His department designed and made the prototype barrels for warship guns after WW I. Apparently, when my mom was a little girl he would bring home some of the shavings from the metal lathe work and she would sprinkle them in her hair as 'curls' for dress up. Considering how tiny she was, she probably looked like a decorative Munchkin. Wish there was a photo of that.
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That's an incredible story. Any photos of your grandfather at work?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 06:54 PM (XfIK1)

43 It's heavy! I smoothed the cut marks and polished it, and it's on my work bench for when I need something solid to bang on.

It makes me smile every time I use it.

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Gramps worked for the RR and had a 6" piece of rail. When mending fence I would hold the rail on the opposite side to back up the drive. Heavy metal, those rails.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 06:58 PM (JS6jE)

44 The guy that is featured in that last video has more equipment than I've ever seen. I'd like to know what it takes to make metal signs with cut outs of scenes or words.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:00 PM (XfIK1)

45 I recall hearing about a smart feller who bid on some railroad scrap rails and got them at a great price. They were from a munitions factory, and this not made of ordinary steel, these were made of brass or some non-ferrous metal and worth a pretty penny. I love stories like that.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 07:03 PM (Gs6BU)

46 Massive metal working in my background. The dude I learned from was insane. I spent a year in auto body, and this guy was a master. I watched him straighten dented panels with no bondo. We had a pickup truck come on that rolled onto it's side and then right side up. This lunatic straightened the whole side with no bondo. That education was golden. Came in handy for fabrication with the harleys.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:05 PM (S41Gd)

47 Dad worked for NCR for years, back when it was all mechanical. I loved going to his shop to see all the machines in various states of repair. The smell of the cleaning solvents was wonderful. The old cash registers were splendid works of steampunk machinery. When NCR went computer, Dad was disappointed, but hung in there.

One thing he loved was spending a couple weeks in Yellowstone as field engineer. Most of the stores then still had the old machines. And he got away from our loud house.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 18, 2026 07:09 PM (0aYVJ)

48 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.

No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

I still have those tools. Shocked, right? lol Yeah I learned the old school way first. I had to learn lead because quarter panels back in the day used lead in the seam where it joined to the roof. Hold on to those tools!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:09 PM (S41Gd)

49 I didn't do a lot of metal working as a hobby but I did a lot of metal design for the pentagon. I had a crew who did prototyping for me and they were the best. Machining, sheet metal, welding. tool making. I miss that. Clinton fucked that all up.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 07:11 PM (sYM3s)

50 > The Porsche 914 platform has been extensively modified.
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There was, at a time, a real underground movement to put Subaru flat 6's in them. Like the ones in the WRX before they were neutered.

Fucking nutz. Engines were lightweight and threw more HP to the rears than the V6 Porsche put in later (914-6).

I did most of my stuff in a '74 with only exhaust and carb mods, such that it was at Laguna Seca. Almost flat out the entire lap. Barely broke 120MPH on the main straight.

But it was so much fucking fun. Even though I sucked.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 07:13 PM (jehhT)

51 >>>This lunatic straightened the whole side with no bondo. That education was golden. Came in handy for fabrication with the harleys.

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and he looked at bending or manipulating metal like an ordinary person would think of working a much softer material?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:13 PM (JS6jE)

52 42 ... "Any photos of your grandfather at work?"

Good evening The Grateful,
I never saw or heard of any photos. Since this was development work for the US Navy, the work may have been classified even if the facility wasn't. Just a guess on my part.

A side benefit of my grandfather working with 'heavy metal'. He was 21 with a wife and newborn daughter, my aunt, when the WW I draft started. Even that young, he was considered an expert on steam locomotives. Such positions were often exempted from the draft.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:14 PM (yTvNw)

53 >>Massive metal working in my background. The dude I learned from was insane.

When we were rebuilding my folks farm we had to have a bunch of metal work done. Some pieces weren't made anymore and some custom stuff for the barn.

We found this small metal shop the next town over that looked exactly how you would expect an old metal works place to look. The owner was ancient and had Parkinson's. His equally ancient assistant had to help translate because he had so much trouble speaking. He didn't really walk, he shuffled and looked like he was on the verge of falling constantly.

Yet somehow once he got into his shop he was a master. The stuff he produced wasn't just good it was art. It was fun to watch him work.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 07:18 PM (viF8m)

54 and he looked at bending or manipulating metal like an ordinary person would think of working a much softer material?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:13 PM (JS6jE)

It was a lot of hammer and dolly work, but his main tool that was mostly used was a wide slightly curved file. He would use that to smack down and flatten the areas and the teeth of the file left an imprint on the area. If he didn't see marks, the area was too low and he would adjust the dolly location. When he had a full tooth pattern he used the same file to smooth out the area, then hit it with the sander and prime. He was a wild man.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:20 PM (S41Gd)

55 53 ... "
We found this small metal shop the next town over that looked exactly how you would expect an old metal works place to look. The owner was ancient and had Parkinson's. His equally ancient assistant had to help translate because he had so much trouble speaking. He didn't really walk, he shuffled and looked like he was on the verge of falling constantly.

Yet somehow once he got into his shop he was a master. The stuff he produced wasn't just good it was art. It was fun to watch him work."

JackStraw,

That reminds me of the guy who showed me the basics of chip carving. His hands shook so badly you would think it wasn't safe for him to handle a knife. But when his knife touched the wood his moves were smooth and controlled.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:22 PM (yTvNw)

56 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Maybe we'll do a travel theme next week. Sound good? Any preferences?

You're welcome to hang here for a while if you'd like, but don't forget to stop by Club ONT later.

Posted by: TRex - annealed dino at July 18, 2026 07:24 PM (XfIK1)

57 >>That reminds me of the guy who showed me the basics of chip carving. His hands shook so badly you would think it wasn't safe for him to handle a knife. But when his knife touched the wood his moves were smooth and controlled.

I was stunned when I first saw it. My dad and I went to the shop on a recommendation and when this old, shuffling guy who could barely communicate came out to talk with us I was ready to get back in the truck.

But when he went to work he figured out how to overcome his disability and the stuff he produced was beautiful. The human spirit is pretty amazing.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 07:27 PM (viF8m)

58 It's been good but not yet.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:29 PM (JS6jE)

59 Well my hobby nightmare today is changing handlebars on Mrs B's bike. She didn't like the bars I had on it. It was set up for me because it was the bike she rode on the back of. Since another bike replaced it as a 2 rider bike she's getting this one set up for her, so she don't have to deal with my setup when she wants to ride. Of course things never go easy because now cables and wires have to be changed or rerouted.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 07:31 PM (S41Gd)

60 In my State, pretty much all gambling is illegal. There's a cutout for church bingo - but not for cash prizes. It has to be an item, like a coffeemaker, or a laptop, or somesuch.

Now, thanks to the federal government, I was forced to become a charlatan preacher in the Universal Life Church back in 2020, so I could write up religious exemptions for people and they could dodge the vaccine mandates.

So I'm technically a church, and I also have a bunch of bullion. What's to stop me from hanging my church's shingle, putting some plastic tables out on the lawn, and running a bingo game where the non-cash prize is hard metal at spot price?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 07:32 PM (BI5O2)

61 Thanks for checking in. Anything in the content videos above resonate with you?
Posted by: TRex - roboformed dino at July 18, 2026 06:23 PM (XfIK1)

I absolutely love the tiny train, but I've also got over-large digits that kind of stuff.

Posted by: Gundo at July 18, 2026 07:32 PM (n6zcR)

62 Oh hell yes this is right up my alley.

I use SendCutSend almost every week. I spend over $10k with them so far this year. I can't stop designing metal parts in OnShape then exporing to SCS for them to cut, bend and powdercoat for me.

Last year I designed my own 12V fridge slide system instead of paying ARB $500 for one. I also designed a offroad jack mount for my roof rack.
I have a new M1102 bed rack designed in OnShape and I'm just waiting to pull the trigger on it. Over $1000 in parts needed.

Yesterday Harbor Freight was having a 30% off sale on all Titanium Welding products so I picked up a MIG 170. I set it up this morning but haven't tested it yet. I've got a AC/DC TIG machine already, just never had a MIG. It'll come in handy soon as I fabricate a crane to hoist my 275lbs roof top tent on top of my Hummer.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (WYStd)

63 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.
No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.
Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

I still have those tools. Shocked, right? lol Yeah I learned the old school way first. I had to learn lead because quarter panels back in the day used lead in the seam where it joined to the roof. Hold on to those tools!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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This does not surprise me a bit...you two truly are kindred spirits!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (XfIK1)

64 Had a buddy in college that had a 65 Ford Cobra. This was probably around that time period. He wrecked the passenger side door and fashioned a new one in the medal shop there. Couldn't tell the difference except for the color.

Posted by: javems at July 18, 2026 07:33 PM (zFsEm)

65 So I'm technically a church, and I also have a bunch of bullion. What's to stop me from hanging my church's shingle, putting some plastic tables out on the lawn, and running a bingo game where the non-cash prize is hard metal at spot price?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Do it in the backyard but not in the name of Jesus.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 07:37 PM (JS6jE)

66 Given the my level of metal working ability, it's a good thing I live now. If I had been in charge of tool development in prehistory, we would still be using fire hardened wooden spears for hunting. Sigh!

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:38 PM (yTvNw)

67 That reminds me of the guy who showed me the basics of chip carving. His hands shook so badly you would think it wasn't safe for him to handle a knife. But when his knife touched the wood his moves were smooth and controlled.
Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 07:22 PM (yTvNw)
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Knew a guy who was one of the finest blackpowder gunsmiths in this part of the country. He was kind enough to put together my Baker Rifle replica. When I came in to proof fire the barrel, he said "I want to show you something." He rummaged around an old oil barrel and pulled out an old, somewhat rusty barrel that had the exact dimensions of my new Getz barrel. I was amazed. Two possibilities occurred to me - The 95th Rifles, 2BN (IIRC) was equipped with Bakers at the Battle of NO. And the Brits sold a lot of surplus Bakers to the Mexican Army shortly before Santa Anna's campaign in TX. Yep, at the Alamo. A lot of history all around us.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2026 07:38 PM (rj6Yv)

68 Do it in the backyard but not in the name of Jesus.

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Of course not.

We're Universal Brothers in Luck, in this House of Prosperity.

If our congregants wish to yield some tithe from their stupendous winnings up to their Lord, that's for the best, but we don't judge here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 07:41 PM (BI5O2)

69 Lost Music Nood.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 18, 2026 07:43 PM (sk9DV)

70 The copper bowl vid left me feeling like a talentless clod.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 07:44 PM (XeU6L)

71 Anyone seen Ronster?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:44 PM (XfIK1)

72 Dad'd 356. Purchased in 1976 for $2000. We did a full restoration, down to bare metal. Everything on the car came off. We got another wrecked car that had a sunroof, and swapped tops by cutting and welding at the pillars. Then took it to a paint shop for 14 coats of silver lacquer.

A year later we drove the completed car to a Porsche Club meeting in Indianapolis at the Indy 500 track and about 90 356s did some parade laps around the track. That was the day I got to drive on the Indianapolis Raceway track. I have some pics of that day and will try to send a couple.

Lots more stories about that car that I'll maybe tell you about sometime TRex.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:45 PM (MWfyi)

73 Wow, fd, $2000? I know what those cars go for today.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 07:46 PM (XfIK1)

74 72 Dad'd 356. Purchased in 1976 for $2000. We did a full restoration, down to bare metal.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:45 PM
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Great story. You still have the car, right? Right?

Posted by: TRex - restored dino at July 18, 2026 07:46 PM (XfIK1)

75 "Great story. You still have the car, right? Right?
Posted by: TRex - restored dino "

No. He sold it about 1995 or so. The German guy he sold it to said he was going to ship it to Germany for another full restoration including getting rid of the sunroof because it was not original to the serial number of the car. I think he sold it for $20K or so then.

I was supposed to get the car for a college graduation present but well I didn't so didn't. That's ok though, the path I took was probably more fun and I eventually rebuilt a Boxster which is a much better car anyway.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:55 PM (MWfyi)

76 This thread reminds me of one reason why I love it here. My husband was a bit older than me---while he was designing radar systems for fighter jets during the Korean war, I was in grade school practicing hiding under my desk.

But I loved hearing him talk about what he did, even though I understood little to none.

Same with you guys. I love reading what you do. That doesn't mean I understand it. But I love it. You bring my beloved husband back to me.

Thank you.

Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM (u84c/)

77 76 This thread reminds me of one reason why I love it here.

Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 08:11 PM
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Lovely post. Thank YOU!

Posted by: TRex - radar operator dino at July 18, 2026 08:14 PM (XfIK1)

78 Ah Wenda, welcome to my world. I am glad to have a friend with me, lol

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 18, 2026 08:15 PM (XfIK1)

79 No, TRex. Thank you. Big time.

Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 08:24 PM (u84c/)

80 Love the Beach Boys, and Sloop John B is a wonderful song, but it got me thinking. Are they really what you think of as a Rock and Roll band? Some stuff, yes. Some stuff, IDK. They're almost in their own category, given Brian Wilson's idiosyncratic abilities.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 18, 2026 08:46 PM (QaH55)

81 Late BF's father was a "body & fender man" at a local shop, in the days before Bondo.

He used lead to fill slight imperfections. I have that old kit -- sticks of lead and the (wooden!) shaping dollies.

No, I don't know how to use it, LOL.
Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 06:42 PM (rdVOm)

Years ago, I bought the stuff to do it. Flux, stick lead, paddles, etc. I had the acetylene torch. Leaded a few fenders. It was not super easy, but doable. Spoiler: good plastic body filler is better. Easier to apply, bonds better, easier to sand down to shape, and dos not promote corrosion like the acids in the flux do. I have seen too many factory lead jobs fail after a span of years.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 10:17 PM (1z8ji)

82 Thank you, Wenda.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 19, 2026 01:15 AM (CHHv1)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, July 18

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And what about AI and trust?

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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Scientists studying impact of painting wind turbine blade black to reduce bird collisions

CORVALLIS, Ore. – Oregon State University researchers are part of a team looking at reducing bird collision risks with wind turbines by painting a single blade of the turbine black.

Wind energy has a significant role during a time of climate change, rising energy demands and a transition from fossil fuels to clean energy, but it poses risks to birds and bats due to collision fatalities. Previous studies estimate that hundreds of thousands of birds and bats die each year as a result of collisions with wind turbine blades.

The Oregon State researchers, working with federal, industry and nonprofit partners, and funded in part by the Oregon Legislature, are building on recent research in Norway that found a nearly 72% decline in bird collisions with turbine blades when one blade was painted black.

Well, at least they're trying to help. But what about the bats?

How about just taking down the turbines and trying something else?


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Famous cat employee:

A more modern cat employee:

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It's important to communicate with your animals:

"Thank you for your continued support"

"Have a great day"

Meet The PetMorons

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Bruno at the creek. He's such a good boy. He just finished his treatment for Lymphoma and is in remission.

- fd

Yay for Bruno! Thanks for the great photo of your good boy.

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Cat and Box

Lirio

Perfect photo of Cat in Box. Endearing.


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Still the cutest

Eris Enthroned

Lily, ready for love!

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Hi KT,

I'm sending some of my favorite photos of Bingley in honor of his 8th birthday, which I celebrate on July 18.

In October 2018, I was working in a large Midwestern university library. One day, a kitten found his way into the ceiling of the Main Library basement. Library staff heard his pitiful cries, climbed up and rescued him, and took him to the shelter to treat a tail injury. They circulated his picture around the library. When it got to my department, my coworkers decided I was the chosen one, as everyone else already had multiple cats and I just had one.

After he healed from a partial tail amputation, I brought him home. It took maybe 24 hours for my older cat to decide the new guy was all right, and in another few days the older cat had appointed himself Bingley's mentor in all things, especially the fine art of grooming. Until I lost my older kitty to cancer in 2022, the two of them were inseparable. Bing is the biggest snuggle bug I've ever known, 14 pounds of floof and love. He is a Very Good Kitty.

Thanks for the pet thread!

My nic is "screaming in digital"

Thanks for the great photos of your photogenic guy! Save that last photo for later. It's special, too!


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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today. We hit the jackpot with kitties this week, and will have some more photos to show, especially if you send yours, too!

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, July 11

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

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1 Nice.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18, 2026 03:40 PM (mQbp+)

2 Oh, and SPONGE!

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18, 2026 03:42 PM (mQbp+)

3 screaming in digital

Awwww.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 03:42 PM (u82oZ)

4 What a fab Pet Thread, and hurrah for Bruno!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 03:42 PM (732As)

5 Mideast airports allow feral cats to roam the facility, since they are far better and more effective (and cheaper) rodent control than anything humans come up with.

I don't know if US prisons do that too, but they should.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 18, 2026 03:43 PM (bufu1)

6

KT,

Comment 19 on the gardening thread should be deleted.

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 03:44 PM (/QHx4)

7 Whoo Hoo!

Cats and squirrels! Two of my favorite animals!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 03:46 PM (FZ29D)

8 Not looking forward to taking the kittehs for rabies shots on Monday. I don't know why they are necessary if they're indoor cats but it's the 'law'. Also the vet said they can't treat them if they are unvaccinated. It's like a Covid shot and a woke hospital.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 03:48 PM (/WQyy)

9 SiD, I love Bingley's classy goatee and pencil mustache. Very suave.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 03:51 PM (kpS4V)

10 Hey KT, can I borrow the Ban Hammer for a moment?

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 03:51 PM (dIske)

11 And there's actual scientific data to back up my assertion that Lily is the cutest cat in the solar system.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 03:53 PM (kpS4V)

12
Best of Breed for The Big Dummy at today's Beaumont KC show. He's Daddy's good dumb dog.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 03:56 PM (3pDH/)

13 Lawn is cut, weed eating is done, cold beer is open, and Bruno is on the Pet Tread. I think I sent that pic to the wrong address but thank you for posting it anyway KT!

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 03:57 PM (MWfyi)

14 My ring camera has now filmed a giant rat snake, a raccoon, an opossum and a rabbit. Country life though I've seen the same when I lived in the city though not at my door.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 03:58 PM (/WQyy)

15 Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 03:58 PM (MWfyi)

16
We are making plans to move Puff, Ruth and Dutchess up to the house and shut down the kennel. It will be better for them and save tons on AC costs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 03:59 PM (3pDH/)

17 Oh boy oh boy oh boy!

Posted by: Puff, Ruth and Dutchess at July 18, 2026 03:59 PM (MWfyi)

18 Meow...

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (sAmhv)

19 Hadrian,
I've always meant to ask if there are cash prizes that come with Best in Breed prizes. Do dog shows work that way?

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (lJ0H4)

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A houseful of dogs. I love that.

For many years we had four dogs in the house.

Only two now, house feels empty.

Posted by: four seasons at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (/QHx4)

21 And there's actual scientific data to back up my assertion that Lily is the cutest cat in the solar system.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 03:53 PM (kpS4V)
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Hard to argue with that, though Kaylee the Calico Kitty Cat (the cutest little cat of them all) provides stiff competition...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (FZ29D)

22 Bruno lives in my shop and rarely comes in the house, because cats. That's fine with him because it's like a big doghouse for him and I spend most of my time in here too. He has a doggy door on the back so he can come and go as he pleases.

If he did live in the house I don't know what we would do with all the dog hair when he sheds. As it is I use a shop vac almost daily to suck up all the hailballs.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (MWfyi)

23 hairballs. A vast amount of hairballs. Everywhere.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:04 PM (MWfyi)

24 It ought to be possible to set a "preferred box size" option on Amazon. My late kitty Opal was a size A7, in boxes. LOOOOVED the boxes ... and the rustly paper they used for packing. So much so I ordered a big roll of it, forever confusing U-Line corporation (whence it came) and I kept getting their catalog for industrial packing needs. Nope, just a cat getting spoiled ...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 18, 2026 04:05 PM (k+oif)

25 I’m up to 6 horses 2 new rescued dogs and a little tabby kitty appeared out of nowhere by the horse trough last week so I guess we have a barn cat now too

Posted by: Biggest Alfredo at July 18, 2026 04:06 PM (RBsvc)

26 Afternoon all!

Small cat update

https://tinyurl.com/dg65258

I see we have some beautiful pet morons today. I'm so glad Bruno is in remission.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 18, 2026 04:08 PM (2F0/Y)

27 I have reams of data, Perfessor. Reams.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:08 PM (kpS4V)

28 I grew up with dogs and cats that were mostly inside but had access to the outside. That means I also grew up with fleas . The 70's weren't great with flea prevention.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 04:10 PM (/WQyy)

29 So much so I ordered a big roll of it, forever confusing U-Line corporation (whence it came) and I kept getting their catalog for industrial packing needs. Nope, just a cat getting spoiled ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 18
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U-Line needs to circle back and drill down on a cat-centric product line.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:12 PM (kpS4V)

30
I've always meant to ask if there are cash prizes that come with Best in Breed prizes. Do dog shows work that way?

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 04:03 PM (lJ0H4)

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Quite infrequently there are cash prizes for Best in Show, but otherwise no.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 04:13 PM (3pDH/)

31 Afternoon, Pet Folken! "Towser" is usually a name given to dogs*, but I don't suppose it disturbed the cat in the least. 29,000 mice in 24 years! Wow!

"Cat in Box" looks a lot like my Dagny Sophia, except this one seems to have more white on her face; and Lily resembles Dagny too, except Lily has a much longer tail.

Bingley would have a super cute face even without the black bits. He looks much like the late Chekov D. Siberian.

* I believe the dog in the Clifford D. Simak short story, one of he "City" cycle, set on one of Jupiter's moons was named "Towser."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:14 PM (wzUl9)

32 Christmas Day was a huge day for our cats. Boxes and wrapping paper. They had more fun than I did.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 04:14 PM (/WQyy)

33 BOO!

Posted by: The Mutant Raccoon at July 18, 2026 04:19 PM (MWfyi)

34 Hair balls? Linda combs little puffball Dagny and gets handfuls of the gray stuff, enough to assemble a realistic-looking tribble.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (wzUl9)

35 *skitters away*

Posted by: The Mutant Raccoon at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (MWfyi)

36 The first two pictures were the wrong ones to post today, as I sit here waiting on the guy to come a remove the little buggers from my attic.

Posted by: Bones at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (pK0gS)

37 Sangria doesn't actually have a preferred size--doesn't even matter if it's still a box. I had one flattened for recycle and made the mistake of putting it down for a minute. She slept on it for an entire afternoon.

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 18, 2026 04:21 PM (ky7/T)

38 And Bingley graciously allowed a visit with me and my critters during the move. He really was not pleased to meet Jake, my springer, and was happy to see him leave.

Patsy has decided she must be in my lap today, so keeps showing up every time I sit down.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (bkuEU)

39 "Wind energy has a significant role during a time of climate change, rising energy demands and a transition from fossil fuels to clean energy, but it poses risks to birds and bats due to collision fatalities. Previous studies estimate that hundreds of thousands of birds and bats die each year as a result of collisions with wind turbine blades.

The Oregon State researchers, working with federal, industry and nonprofit partners, and funded in part by the Oregon Legislature, are building on recent research in Norway that found a nearly 72% decline in bird collisions with turbine blades when one blade was painted black.

The "climate change" we observe is natural variability. Burning coal in power plants has nothing to do with it. And wind generators are no "solution" since fossil fuel plants have to keep idling to create "spinning reserves" for when the wind stops blowing, or begins to blow too hard.

And if you paint one blade black, you are going to have to paint the other two white. Paint has mass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (1z8ji)

40 * I believe the dog in the Clifford D. Simak short story, one of he "City" cycle, set on one of Jupiter's moons was named "Towser."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:14 PM (wzUl9)

Towser is an ancient traditional dog name, same as "Fido".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:24 PM (1z8ji)

41 Paint each blade 1/3 black, in different places on each blade.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (MWfyi)

42 My furry thugs are doing well. Stirling, who just slept with me as he usually does in the afternoons, is now sprawled on the floor at the far end of the couch.

Dagny is . . . well, somewhere. Probably in her kitty sauna, the west-facing bedroom window with blackout curtains. Even she gets tired of the sun, though, and I often find her curled in my desk chair. I take hold of the chair to move it out in preparation for my sitting down, find the chair remarkably heavy, look, and see a gray puffball curled on the cushion. I perch myself on the edge of the chair so as not to dispossess her, of course, but she usually leaves soon after.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (wzUl9)

43 Towser is an ancient traditional dog name, same as "Fido".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026


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Along with Rover, King, and I suppose, Chopper.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:27 PM (wzUl9)

44 >>I’m up to 6 horses 2 new rescued dogs and a little tabby kitty appeared out of nowhere by the horse trough last week so I guess we have a barn cat now too

We didn't have cats. Cats had us. If you have a barn full of animals cats appear like magic.

Only had one over the years who decided to venture inside the house. She decided sleeping of top of my dad was her happy place. Literally on top of him. He named her PITA as in Pain In The Ass but he secretly loved that cat.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:30 PM (viF8m)

45 Love the guy giving the announcement to the herd. Reminded me of many an office meeting.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 04:30 PM (2Ez/1)

46 Paint each blade 1/3 black, in different places on each blade.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (MWfyi)

To do that right, you would have to do some math. The mass of each paint band, multiplied by the distance of the center of mass of each paint band from the spin axis, would have to be equal. Given that the blades do not have a uniform surface area per unit of length, it could be tricky. Not impossible, but more work than one might guess.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:32 PM (1z8ji)

47 I’m up to 6 horses 2 new rescued dogs and a little tabby kitty appeared out of nowhere by the horse trough last week so I guess we have a barn cat now too

We didn't have cats. Cats had us. If you have a barn full of animals cats appear like magic. . . .

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026


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Linda persists in saying Stirling began life as a barn cat -- well, kitten -- with other animals at the Vicksburg shelter, including the donkey they had in a corral when we drove up. I suppose his mother might have been a barn cat, but clearly Stirling was raised by people.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:33 PM (wzUl9)

48 >>Linda persists in saying Stirling began life as a barn cat -- well, kitten -- with other animals at the Vicksburg shelter, including the donkey they had in a corral when we drove up. I suppose his mother might have been a barn cat, but clearly Stirling was raised by people.

It really is a fascinating how cats just show up around a barn. It makes sense, lots of food in a relatively open space brings mice and that brings cats, but how do they just appear? Is there an underground network of cats relaying information?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:38 PM (viF8m)

49 "Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon "

Just paint the backsides of the blades at the opposite ends and the blade with the stripe in the center paint the other side just the same. Use the same amount of paint for each segment and don't worry so much about the area.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:40 PM (MWfyi)

50 Bingley is taking a birthday nap, but he says thank you for the compliments.

Eris, Lily is adorable and so floofy! I want to scratch her belly. But not sure that's wise. Bing loves tummy rubs but he might be an outlier.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 04:41 PM (hPLSE)

51 What am I saying. Just tear the damn things down and go nuclear. For the children. And our pets. As the case may be.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:43 PM (MWfyi)

52 "Wind energy has a significant role during a time of climate change..."
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No. No, it doesn't.
Don't you love how so many writers just assume we all agree that "climate change" is an accepted fact?

Kinda like evolution.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 04:44 PM (2Ez/1)

53 Eris, Lily is adorable and so floofy! I want to scratch her belly. But not sure that's wise. Bing loves tummy rubs but he might be an outlier.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 04:41 PM (hPLSE)
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She will gladly let you rub her tummy. She's the only cat I've had that doesn't have any No Petting Zones.

My big boi Cosmo would offer up his fuzzy belly for rubz and you'd get your hand impaled on fish hooks. Trickery! Trickery!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:45 PM (kpS4V)

54 I take hold of the chair to move it out in preparation for my sitting down, find the chair remarkably heavy, look, and see a gray puffball curled on the cushion. I perch myself on the edge of the chair so as not to dispossess her, of course, but she usually leaves soon after.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:25 PM (wzUl9)
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I keep a "backup folding chair" in my office just for that reason. I'll move my normal office chair to one side and then use the backup chair.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 04:46 PM (FZ29D)

55 It really is a fascinating how cats just show up around a barn. It makes sense, lots of food in a relatively open space brings mice and that brings cats, but how do they just appear? Is there an underground network of cats relaying information?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:38 PM (viF8m)
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Yes. I'm convinced cats have a secret communication network. How else can you explain why a new cat will show up in your life shortly after you lose a cat?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 04:48 PM (FZ29D)

56 Cats don't sit in my chair. They know I will sit on them.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:50 PM (MWfyi)

57 What am I saying. Just tear the damn things down and go nuclear. For the children. And our pets. As the case may be.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:43 PM (MWfyi)

Now you're talkin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 04:51 PM (1z8ji)

58 She will gladly let you rub her tummy. She's the only cat I've had that doesn't have any No Petting Zones.

My big boi Cosmo would offer up his fuzzy belly for rubz and you'd get your hand impaled on fish hooks. Trickery! Trickery!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026


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Dagny loves it, and Stirling is fine with it. My earlier cats must not have been, because it didn't occur to me to try it on these two until Linda took the chance and found they love belly rubs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:51 PM (wzUl9)

59 How else can you explain why a new cat will show up in your life shortly after you lose a cat?
--/

Like New Yorkers sensing when somebody dies in a rent controlled apartment.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:51 PM (kpS4V)

60 What a great story, SID.
And what beautiful kitties.

So nice to see a photo of Bruno, Fd, thank you for sharing that. Glad to hear he is remission, and may he have many, many years of being a Good Boy.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 04:52 PM (4VH0B)

61
I believe the dog in the Clifford D. Simak short story, one of he "City" cycle, set on one of Jupiter's moons was named "Towser."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


He preferred being a creature of Jupiter to being a dog.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 04:53 PM (Cqx++)

62 I missed this for the Garden Thread but Experts are recommending hugging a watermelon to keep cool. I don't know how they feel about cantaloupes.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:53 PM (MWfyi)

63 FYI, the Clifford Simak short story with the dog "Towser" is called "Desertion."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 04:55 PM (wzUl9)

64 "Posted by: TecumsehTea"

Thank you. I know how it goes with big dogs but I think he's got a few more good years ahead.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:55 PM (MWfyi)

65 Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.
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You shouldn’t say things like that

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 04:56 PM (xJ+d7)

66 Experts are recommending hugging a watermelon to keep cool.
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Has that watermelon been enhanced with a bottle of Valu-Rite?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 04:56 PM (kpS4V)

67 Hadrian, does that mean no more breeding, or having puppies? Is Her Majesty slowly ending her career with the dogs?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 04:57 PM (4VH0B)

68 Getting a watermelon drunk and taking advantage of it will not keep you cool.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:57 PM (MWfyi)

69 Had an interesting critter show up in my yard this week. And Eastern Milk Snake. I've never seen one before but this guy just appeared on my patio catching some rays. Elvis, being the goofball his is, just walked right over him on his way to scold a disrespectful rabbit that dared to enter his domain. I was a bit more respectful.

No step on snek.

https://tinyurl.com/4zyx9hjd

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 04:58 PM (viF8m)

70 "You shouldn’t say things like that
Posted by: Common Tater"

You're right. I take it back.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:59 PM (MWfyi)

71 JackStraw, that is an attractive snake.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 05:00 PM (kpS4V)

72 What, no story about Jimothy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 05:01 PM (Cqx++)

73 " JackStraw, that is an attractive snake."

I bet you say that to all the guys. With snakes, I mean.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 05:03 PM (MWfyi)

74 Nope, just a cat getting spoiled ...
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 18, 2026 04:05 PM (k+oif)

I second that emotion. My cat is more of a Lane Bryant cat but thinks she’s Twiggy and will cram herself into a box come hell or high water. If it’s a big box, I’ll make a roof out of the brown paper so she can burrow under it. I think she’s half prairie dog.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 18, 2026 05:03 PM (SjAWL)

75 If you think wind energy is efficient and reliable then there are likely a few other things wrong.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 05:04 PM (YlWIZ)

76 Well, just because you shouldn’t say something doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. Shouldn’t you? Hm, forget it I need to go lay down for a while. For some reason I just noticed “shouldn’t” is a weird looking word.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 05:04 PM (xJ+d7)

77 >>JackStraw, that is an attractive snake.

I thought so too. Not really a fan of snakes but this guy/gal, how can you tell what sex a snake is, was really pretty.

Saw it again a couple days later slithering across the yard. I'll be ok if I don't see it again despite the good look.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:05 PM (viF8m)

78 I think she’s half prairie dog.
Posted by: TxAnn at July 18, 2026


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You can never get between a prairie dog and his burrow -- or a burrow, since a prairie dog town has so many.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:05 PM (wzUl9)

79 *sigh*

Time to dole out the tender vittles to the hungry horde...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:05 PM (FZ29D)

80 >68 Getting a watermelon drunk and taking advantage of it will not keep you cool.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 04:57 PM
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This might:

https://youtu.be/dSNSyioD2Bk

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 05:06 PM (2Ez/1)

81 I read somewhere the wind turbines use an expensive, synthetic gearbox oil, and quite a lot of it, too. It needs replacing after the initial 50 hours or whatever as well. $$$$

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 05:06 PM (xJ+d7)

82 "This might:

https://youtu.be/dSNSyioD2Bk
Posted by: Quarter Twenty "

That is one dangerous watermelon.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 05:10 PM (MWfyi)

83 When our boys were in early teens they had a couple corn snakes. Raised mice to feed them. I like snakes, prefer them to bugs and rodents, really.
We had a close call with a massasauga snake in MI once. They are mildly venomous, and not aggressive. We were hiking and our son almost stepped on it. We backed away and the snake shook his tail and went the other way.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 05:12 PM (4VH0B)

84 >>We were hiking and our son almost stepped on it.

That's probably why snakes are not my thing. Most of my encounters have "almost stepped on it" in the story.

I like animals that announce their presence and intentions at a respectful distance so we can both carry on.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:18 PM (viF8m)

85 Sending love to all the pet moronz and hugs to hoomanz that are missing them

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 18, 2026 05:21 PM (7gFa4)

86 JackStraw, they do tend to blend in.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 05:21 PM (4VH0B)

87 That is one dangerous watermelon.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 05:10 PM
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MoMe worthy.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 05:23 PM (2Ez/1)

88 >>JackStraw, they do tend to blend in.

We have garter snakes here. Harmless but their camouflage is perfect. Completely blend in.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:26 PM (viF8m)

89 I perch myself on the edge of the chair so as not to dispossess her, of course, but she usually leaves soon after.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Aww...

I'd do the same. But Cat won't!

One day, as I sat in a patio chair, Cat jumped on behind me. (He's not a "lap kitty" at all, and not snuggly although he does enjoy skritches.)

And then he burrowed down. And then he stretched out. And then he extended his legs and pushed me out of the chair!

"Not enough room for BOTH of us, Mom!"

I got up and sat in the other, identical, chair. Rotten brat Cat!

Posted by: JQ at July 18, 2026 05:28 PM (rdVOm)

90 This might:

https://youtu.be/dSNSyioD2Bk
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 05:06 PM (2Ez/1)
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That's insane that a watermelon can retain four bottles of booze in addition to its normal water content...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:31 PM (FZ29D)

91 Reaction to Snakes

• Civilian: Runs away from the snake screaming.
• Paratrooper: Lands on and kills the snake.
• Armor: runs over snake, giggles, and looks for more snakes.
• Infantry: "Look, a putty cat. Come 'ere kitty....Ouch! Hey, that's not a putty tat."
• Army Aviation: Has GPS grid to snake. Can't find snake. Back to base for crew rest and the club and some sort of drink called "The Snake."

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:31 PM (zhuhT)

92 • Ranger: Plays with the snake, then eats it.
• 2nd Ranger: Assaults the snake's home and secures it for use by friendly snakes.
• MI: analyzes all available intelligence and national asset input on the reptilian situation; reports sighting of Godzilla to National Command Authority.
• JAG: Advises the snake on the rules of engagement and the law of war as it pertains to the snake and its defensive posture.
• Quartermaster: Captures snake and applies a National Stock Number (NSN) to it. Implements a Found On Installation (FOI) procedure and picks up snake on property book. Has company commander sign hand receipt for "Snake, Green, One Each," as non-expendable unit property.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:32 PM (zhuhT)

93 Hobby thread nood

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (lJ0H4)

94 • Chemical Corps: Starts to gas the little booger, but then realizes that there is an M-18, A-2 Respirator especially made for snakes, remembers the Chemical Corps Motto, "UTRWBAG" (Up Their Rear With Bugs and Gas), and conducts three experiments on it that have been strictly prohibited by the Clinton Treaty of 1999.
• Navy SEAL: Expends all ammunition, several grenades and calls for naval gunfire in a failed attempt to kill the snake. The snake bites the SEAL then retreats to safety.
• Artillery: Kills snake, but in the process kills several hundred civilians with a massive TOT with three FA BDEs in support. Mission is considered a success and all participants (cooks, mechanics, clerks) are awarded Silver Stars.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:33 PM (zhuhT)

95 • Marine Recon: Follows the snake and gets lost.
• Pathfinder: Guides the snake elsewhere.
• AF Fighter Pilot: Mis-identifies the snake as a Russian HIND helicopter and engages it with missiles. Crew chief paints a snake on airplane.
• AF Pararescue: Wounds the snake in first encounter, then feverishly works to save the snake's life.
• Green Beret: Makes contact with the snake, builds rapport, wins its heart and mind, then trains it to kill other snakes.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:34 PM (zhuhT)

96 Hobby NOOD

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 05:38 PM (FZ29D)

97 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 05:32 PM (zhuhT)
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Brilliance!

"Marine Recon: Follows the snake and gets lost."

*applause*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 05:57 PM (kpS4V)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 18

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From last week:

Happy Wednesday, KT! I have an actual sunflower blooming! This is at the top of my 11 foot tall plant. This one started as a volunteer from last year's seeds so I think it will have the same smaller multi-colored blooms.

On the inside, my orchid is loving the AC. Update on the spider plants - they have been going to town. They really do look like fireworks! Thanks for last week's pictures.

Mrs. Leggy

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Wow! Such fun! I don't remember seeing your orchids before.

And here's another sunflower (not 11 feet tall) with a visitor:


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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

From By-Tor:

My garden is hitting full stride. Which is a bit overwhelming. Luckily I have friends that are happy to get the overflow.

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Great haul from a container garden!

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When you have too many tomatoes all at once, you make soup. Especially if you have fresh basil.

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Mmmmmmmm


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Nature


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The diversity of nature

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Puttering

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Science

Read the comments:


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Gardens of The Horde

I don't usually get blossoms every year. Not sure why, but I really like it when they come out.

Diogenes

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Beautiful!


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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 11


I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

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1 Humidity 46% 82° and sunny in van nuys.
As usual, I feel hotter. And the solar outage of tv sucks

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (smHg8)

2 I picked the first green beans of the year so there pppppppfffffffttttt

Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 18, 2026 01:49 PM (jrgJz)

3 what the cat drug in at July 18, 2026 01:49 PM

Yay!

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 01:56 PM (rdeQO)

4 This has been crepe mrytle week in our area. Just about every shrub, some are 20 feet tall, in full bloom. And I noticed more colors than usual: more varied reds and purples but also yellow which are lovely. Even the little crepe in the backyard, always the last to bloom, has flowers. It's been miserably hot lately so I mostly see them from an air conditioned car.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 01:59 PM (yTvNw)

5 KT,
I wasn't available for your previous thread to comment but thanks for the post and links. It ties in with some of my concerns about the current society, which also is reflected in the scouring of the Shire chapter in LOTR. Might be time to get out some of my Wendell Berry essays and poems.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 02:11 PM (yTvNw)

6 In case you missed this last month:

"Supreme Court blocks thousands of Bayer lawsuits over weedkiller 'cancer risk' "

https://shorturl.at/vs0wT

Reeeeeeee!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 02:13 PM (XeU6L)

7 Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 02:13 PM

A consequence of EPA regulation, I think.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 02:25 PM (rdeQO)

8 Anybody ever seen graffiti removal like that before?

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 02:26 PM (rdeQO)

9
I think I saved the lily that I nearly killed. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:27 PM (mmrXZ)

10 8 Anybody ever seen graffiti removal like that before?
Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 02:26 PM (rdeQO)


No, but it looks cool! We don't have much graffiti around here except on train cars.

Posted by: Emmie at July 18, 2026 02:28 PM (OlzlW)

11 What lovely orchids and sunflowers!

My pollinator bed is a hotbed of activity, and the sunflowers in my vegetable garden are swarming with bees.

Tomatoes are doing gangbusters in spite of my overplanting and the general condition of beautiful chaos that I've allowed. Had my first plateful of maters yesterday: Lemon Boy, Alice's Dream, and Independence Day. Just pink salt and cracked pepper on top -- yum!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 02:31 PM (kpS4V)

12 It's still hot and muggy outside, but at least the forest fire schmutz is mostly gone.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 02:33 PM (kpS4V)

13 Aw, two monarch butterflies are doing a tango around the butterfly weed.

Bugs makin' whoopie! 💜 🦋

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 18, 2026 02:49 PM (kpS4V)

14 Yep, harvested first beans today in Northern NH. Tomatoes are growing in size, still green. Blueberries are ready to pluck.
And it’s been rainy enough that the lawn is still green.
Feels good on bare feet in early evening.

Posted by: RI Red at July 18, 2026 02:56 PM (LMRVO)

15 I have fresh basil and parsley every day.

Soup
Compound Butter
Pesto
Lots of other stuff.

Next year, I'm adding rosemary.

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2026 03:03 PM (rj6Yv)

16 Something I've noticed the last couple of years in our area. I see less evidence of home veggie gardens. But the local farmers market, which is restricted to produce from the area, is busier than ever. Not sure of the reason. I can say the local produce is excellent but you can't buy too much at a time since it is ripe when bought, unlike the grocery. I should think of a canning schedule and buy in bulk.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 03:09 PM (yTvNw)

17 Something I've noticed the last couple of years in our area. I see less evidence of home veggie gardens. But the local farmers market, which is restricted to produce from the area, is busier than ever. Not sure of the reason. I can say the local produce is excellent but you can't buy too much at a time since it is ripe when bought, unlike the grocery. I should think of a canning schedule and buy in bulk.
Posted by: JTB

Gardens are a chore. A never-ending chore, til frost.
My wife ain't helping this year, and I'm trying like hell to figure out how to keep such a large space weed-free, watered, and still work.
I'm thinking next year, it's back to straw, with a helping dose of Treflan (Preen).

I tried for 20 years to get rabbits on this hill. I now have them.
More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered prayers (attributed to Teresa of Avila).

Posted by: MkY at July 18, 2026 03:25 PM (q6tQZ)

18 That singing birds video reminded me of something I saw recently that just blew me away. There is an Autistic kid named Samuel Henderson who has this passion and affinity for doing bird calls. He's absolutely fantastic and has a catelogue of over 50 calls...

Here's a video of him:

https://tinyurl.com/522bh7ut

Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2026 03:27 PM (dIske)

19 We've recently planted several fruit trees and grapes and berries, but not much product yet.

MiladyJo was throwing a tennis ball for Daisy Dog, and it went into one of the several-years-old pear trees and lo and behold a small pear dropped out. Weren't sure we had any. Not quite ripe, but might still ripen up.

Last week, we harvested a few figs. Figs! I'd never had a fresh fig before. Hope we can get many more.

I want to grow corn!

Posted by: mindful webworker - herbs and flowers too! at July 18, 2026 03:32 PM (p+5Bi)

20 We had our first BLT of the year.
I'm in love all over again. Employee (who buys his plants) gave us 3.
We are not getting maters yet. We were late. (See helper comment above). We are getting peppers, okra, green beans and cukes.
Rabbits ate down our sweet taters.
Second planting of green beans coming next weekend.

Posted by: MkY at July 18, 2026 03:36 PM (q6tQZ)

21 Pet thread up.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18, 2026 03:41 PM (mQbp+)

22 My goal this year is to escape tomato blight and combat deer. SO far so good. Peppers are starting to come in. Tomato plants are flowering and have green tomatos on them in ever increasing numbers.

Cukes are flowering, beans are about to. I'm fence building the other garden to get ready for late summer/fall crops.

My blackberries have tons of green berries.

But my straw berries suck.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 18, 2026 03:44 PM (UQRAm)

23 But my straw berries suck.
Posted by: Black JEM

Ours sucked this year, too. I think we're done with them.
Kinda like white potatoes. They're cheap at the store. They take WAY more room and effort than they're worth, and the store-bought do.

Posted by: MkY at July 18, 2026 03:48 PM (q6tQZ)

24
Best of Breed for The Big Dummy at today's Beaumont KC show. He's Daddy's good dumb dog.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 03:55 PM (3pDH/)

25 Hadrian the Seventh

Were you able to cash in your favor to the show?

And congrats to TBD and his team.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 04:11 PM (u82oZ)

26 From Boise area: Still HOT. Thunderstorm early Friday morning - other areas got hail, but we were spared that. I dug up all the hyacinths and crocuses in an area we're going to build a French drain in, which left a trench where the arc of hyacinths was; now we have a moat...

Ate the first broccoli this past week - need to eat more this coming week. Green beans are producing steadily. (Zucchini unfortunately producing steadily...) Tomatoes have fruits, but no blushing yet. Too hot for radishes to germinate. Other gardening friends have told me this is a rough year for them too.

I have to do an online entry for the Canyon County Fair soon, if I intend to enter - Husband's going to enter some Homemade Spirits. I should enter Lavender, Carrots, and some herbs. This would be my first year there, so having only a few entries is a good way to dip my toe in. I still have a month before the Western Idaho Fair, to grow my Mega-Zucchini and at least one candidate for Mega-Carrot.

Posted by: Pat* at July 18, 2026 05:42 PM (7uYVO)

Saving the Shire

hobbitnago 2 3.jpg

Hobbitenago, Guatemala

Modern Life Complexities Not Found in the Shire

Pictured above is a hobbit hole in Hobbitenago, Guatemala. It features not only trails with Lord of the Rings kinds of things but also attractions like panoramas featuring volcanoes.

The volcanoes are close enough to be something of a concern. But in the original Shire which inspired this park, they did not have to think about Artificial Intelligence and related electronic complications to life.

This week, I had another odd Social Media Experience. FB sent me a message that one of my friends had a new post. I seldom check this friend's page, and the post turned out to be a slightly snarky article in BlazeMedia by Owen Anderson proposing a thought experiment: What if the commies were right after all? What if the rich folk were the dangerous, permanent oppressors of the world?

He proposed an alternative:

The left condemns concentrated wealth while demanding concentrated political power, the only kind backed by guns, prisons, and law.

He discussed some of his own experiences with leftists and made some suggestions for countering their influence.

Normally, I would not have paid much attention to this piece. But one of my friend's friends, I'll call her "young teacher friend" seemed upset and begged her to learn what democratic socialists believed, "from primary sources".

I looked at Young Teacher Friend's FB page, and it included almost no personal information - just run-of-the-mill memes for leftist causes and a single post - an essay supporting protests by students, including elementary school students. Though she acknowledged the authority of school districts to enforce mandatory school attendance.

My friend expressed surprise that the Blaze piece had shown up on her FB page. I have never seen her post anything political before. And this piece was certainly not her style. How did it get there? Why was I notified of this post? Was Young Teacher Friend also notified? Was the algorithm trying to start a fight?

Anyway, I took it as an opening, and posted the new DSA platform on my friend's page as Young Teacher Friend had suggested (can't get a more primary source than that). I admit that Young Teacher Friend is not the primary intended audience here:

DSA program and platform, July 2026
“DSA has written this program for ending capitalist oligarchy and creating a real democracy. Some of these demands may be won under our current system, but we know complete victory will require building a new society from the ground up. We push these demands to their furthest extent today, so we can fight for their fullest realization in a socialist future. Join us.”
- -
“For the working class to govern, we need a new political system. End political corruption and legalized bribery: get rid of lobbyists, dark money, and Citizens United, and publicly finance all elections. Abolish the Electoral College. Replace the President and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary chosen by and subordinate to Congress.

Replace the two-party system with a multi-party democracy. Expand the House of Representatives, implement proportional representation and ranked choice voting in all elections, and abolish the Senate.”

https://program.dsausa.org/

If you follow the link, you may be surprised, and maybe a little alarmed, at the simplicity of the language in the entire platform.

Do you think anyone will get the message about what the DSA's real goals are? Why are young people attracted to these failed programs and ideologies?

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Keeping the generations in touch with each other

Johann Kurtz has written an interesting piece which will likely lead to some lively discussion: Young adults are poor despite every metric which suggests otherwise

On the surface it does seem as if the young are fine. Real median incomes are higher than they were for their parents at the same age, unemployment has spent most of the past decade at historic lows, and purchasing power has risen roughly 63 percent since 1973. Televisions, clothing, food, and air travel are cheaper than ever.

And yet this generation is also not marrying, not buying homes, not having children, and seem pretty miserable. I think we’re clearly in the midst of a tremendous measurement failure.

My argument is that previous generations received an enormous stock of social capital: trusted neighbors, functional public schools, a productive courtship culture, predictable career arcs, and a public square in which children could roam and adults could be relied upon. That stock, once given for free, has now been substantially liquidated.

(emphasis mine). So, maybe it really does "take a village". Not just a village that consists of government programs?

What actually got cheaper over the past fifty years? Electronics, entertainment, fast fashion, processed food, toys, screens of every kind. And what got more expensive, usually by many multiples? Housing, education, childcare, healthcare, insurance.

Absurdly, both of these movements register in the statistics as progress: one shows up as asset appreciation and the other as consumer surplus. But the lived reality for families feels like a pincer.

Housing is the least ambiguous case. . .

The entire essay is worth thinking about.

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Saving the Shire

The Secret Anguish of the Median Voter

This is my favorite scene in The Lord of the Rings movies.

The four hobbits are riding home to the Shire, having come through hell and back. Frodo has saved the world at terrible personal cost. Pippin is now a knight, wearing his mail and tunic bearing the White Tree of Gondor. Merry is still dressed as an Esquire of Rohan.

All of them are in outlandish clothes, and laden with exotic treasures of dwarves, elves, and men. They have been utterly transformed by their journey.

But Everard Proudfoot (a contrivance of the film) has not been transformed by their journey. He spent the last year in the Shire, with its ordinary rhythms and expectations, and he thinks they are fucking weird.

It’s a big change from the books of course, where Saruman has brought the conflict home, and the hobbits have to drum him out.

I like both versions of the story — but what I like about the scene in the movie is that Everard Proudfoot represents the totality of their victory. They truly saved the Shire — completely intact, exactly as they left it.

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If we win the way we hope to win, all the people who think we are weird and disreputable will have no reason to change their minds. (In fact — as in the film — the way we win may confirm all their suspicions.)

But imagine trying to get Everard Proudfoot to vote to save the world.

A few weeks ago, my wife got her hair done by the Median Utah Voter.

Lately I’ve been using the term “median voter” instead of the n-word (normie) — but in this case I mean it literally.

White, married, middle-class, homeowner, “some college”, late fifties. She lives in a safe neighborhood, where she still sees most of her neighbors at church.

She couldn’t afford her house if she had to buy it now, but she doesn’t have to buy it now. Her husband is closing in on retirement; they saved responsibly, she mostly just cuts hair to have something to do.

She’s not political, except in the ambient sense that she watches the TV news sometimes, and feels bad about the things she’s supposed to feel bad about. She doesn’t like to see people being nasty to each other.

She voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024 (though probably not in 2016), because she’s a Conservative, but she doesn’t like him personally — or at least, she doesn’t like “the way he talks about people.”

When she sees Trump (and Trump surrogates) being harsh and insulting on TV, she thinks about how she tries to treat people — the kind of people she meets in her real life, in her safe neighborhood.

The Mexican guy who fixed her water heater was polite and efficient, and gave her a good price. She did a service project for a refugee charity last Christmas, and seeing those families smile as they got their care packages made her feel really good.

Nothing (in her real life) justifies being Nasty, or Hurting People.

You’re not going to convince this woman of The Big Picture.

There’s no bar graph you can show her that will convince her that her neighborhood is dangerous (it isn’t), or that the contractor who installed her water heater is a threat (he isn’t), or that the refugees at the charity are about to make a fire with her Beautiful Oak Door — they aren’t (at least, not any time soon).

She lives in the real world; she Touches Grass. She isn’t going to care about any of the stuff you care about until she sees it right in front of her physically, and by then it will be way, way too late.

Of course, her moral attention can be redirected parasocially, but not by you — not in the totalizing way that activates a person politically. She’s not going to update her worldview — which, again, is very much wrapped up in her moral attitude toward dozens of real relationships in her real life — because you showed her a meme, or a statistic, or even a lurid atrocity video.

Read the entire essay for more nuance and information about "Median Voter", but the "X" post gets to the nitty-gritty:

From the end of the Old Testament:

Malachi's prophecy is literally true

If the hearts of the fathers are not turned to their children & vice versa, nothing will change until the earth is smitten with a curse, & the barbarians are literally, physically at the door

From the essay:

If the Median Voters - - the cozy Everard Proudfoots of the world - - understand themselves as atomized individuals, they will never take action until the earth is smitten with a curse, and the barbarians are literally, physically at their doorstep.

(Again, the individualist frame was inculcated with the express purpose of lowering these defenses.)

The only way to make them see what is coming - - what is, in fact, already happening - - is to turn their hearts to their children.

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Weekend

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The Week in Pictures: Don't Get Buffalo'd Edition

Let’s see: Gulf War III is back in full swing, Mitch McConnell has become Schrodinger’s senator, but the biggest stories in America right now are a buffalo trying out to be an NFL placekicker, and Taco Bell deciding that a life-imitating-art menu is the best life after all. Too bad about the Whirled Cup soccer thing, but losing to . . . Belgium? Maybe we can appeal to the Whirled Court. Oh, wait. . .

Music

The Shire

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, July 11, Can we afford utopian education?

Notable comment:

"It's a system built on envy of those who have more than the self-anointed "best and brightest".

And again, here's another quote from F.L. Lucas. I think this guy has potential.

“Thence it is possible to arrive by easy stages at the happy notion, not uncommon among 'intellectuals', that taste consists of distaste, and that the loftiest of pleasures is that of feeling displeased; and thus to end by enjoying almost nothing in literature but one's own opinions, while oneself incapable of writing a living sentence.”

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2026 11:32 AM

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:23 AM




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1 hola chamucos y chamucas

Posted by: alpine_beer at July 18, 2026 11:26 AM (van9r)

2 On this day in 1969, Senator Ted Kennedy drove his car off a narrow, unlit wooden bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts. Kennedy escaped the submerged vehicle, but his passenger, 28-year-old campaign worker Mary Jo Kopechne, died. Kennedy didn't report the accident for another 10 hours.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 11:27 AM (mbiBc)

3 People who never eat evil processed foods die.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:32 AM (4g5V+)

4 Juan Valdez was a hobbit?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)

5 A question I almost always asked of the communists at school was,

"Why must the working class govern? Maybe they can't govern, as evidenced by their failure in society to...you know...actually govern, or even succeed! Maybe they don't have the intellectual power to lead."

It's a fun fight to start.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 11:34 AM (l4RKn)

6 Why has medical care (look, I cannot, ever, get this “health care” - besides, when was the last time you went to the doc or the ER because you were healthy?) taken off in price? The same reason higher education has. - the illusion of free money from the government. Get the government out of both to the greatest extent possible, watch both collapse in price.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:35 AM (4g5V+)

7 I was curious if the soccer-pimping bot that was here last week will return with lots of pro soccer propaganda. I guess not.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:37 AM (4g5V+)

8 So, basically, the “DSA” wants to make America into a unitary Socialist state like many places in Europe.

Problem is, the European model hasn’t served Europe so well.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:38 AM (4g5V+)

9 Juan Valdez was a hobbit?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)


Juan Valdez wasn't even Guatemalan!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:39 AM (rbvCR)

10 When did debt become the American dream?

$1/2MM homes, $70K vehicles, and this is before you decide to have children. Longer work hours to cover the debt, more commuting. It really not hard to see why these younger generations are moving in different directions.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 11:40 AM (sYM3s)

11 I was wondering what because of Mr. Duncan’s one act play. That will be awesome. Good to see.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:40 AM (4g5V+)

12 Problem is, the European model hasn’t served Europe so well.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:38 AM (4g5V+)


People like Ursula von der Leyen and other such Eurocrats have been served quite well by this model, and that is what is being sought.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (rbvCR)

13 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 11:34 AM (l4RKn)
Lenin made this connection early on and that is why Communism is not Marxism. It's Marxism-Leninism. If the workers are too stupid to gain class consciousness without the vanguard of the intellectual class, how could the workers be intelligent enough to be allowed power after the revolution?

Marx is almost dead. Lenin is stronger than ever.

Posted by: PHustle31 at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (R86kT)

14 10 When did debt become the American dream?

$1/2MM homes, $70K vehicles, and this is before you decide to have children. Longer work hours to cover the debt, more commuting. It really not hard to see why these younger generations are moving in different directions.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 11:40 AM (sYM3s)

Debt…or lowering what you can get? Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? Why get a $70K vehicle when you can get one for $15-20K that works as well?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:42 AM (4g5V+)

15 Everyone here is Young Teacher Friend..

Posted by: Reddit at July 18, 2026 11:44 AM (rf/GM)

16 Marx is almost dead. Lenin is stronger than ever.

Posted by: PHustle31 at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (R86kT)


Absolutely, but the useful idiots who believe in Marxism were and are curiously ignorant of the reality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 11:45 AM (l4RKn)

17 People like Ursula von der Leyen and other such Eurocrats have been served quite well by this model, and that is what is being sought.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:41 AM (rbvCR)

No question. I have no doubt the “DSA” types look at blue collar work or manual labor with nothing but sneering scorn. They could do that, but they want to set up cushy office jobs up for themselves. Hence their love of massive bureaucracies.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:45 AM (4g5V+)

18
I know of Clifton Duncan from X. He's one of those talented, dedicated people who decided to make it as an artist. Moved to New York, waited tables, studied, went to auditions, did a lot of work for free.

He finally made it. Got his big break. Big show. Big time gig. Money. Long run. Was told he had to get the vaxx in order to be in the show. Refused. Go home, buddy.

He went back to waiting on people who fucked his career. Decided to put on his own show about Thomas Sowell and raised money on social media for it.

Incredible guy.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 11:46 AM (mmrXZ)

19 Democracy is idiotic on its face. We’re watching it self destruct in real time. This was both predictable and predicted. “Universal Suffrage” apparently in practice means allowing people - anyone - with no stake in the game to participate, and those at the top and bottom of the social strata have made it abundantly clear they want to destroy this system of democracy by majority vote. How weird is that?

Since said destruction just isn’t happening fast enough, they’ve taken to importing people illegally by the millions who are more amenable to destroying the system.

And “we the people” don’t get to vote on this arrangement amusingly enough, nor will our democratically elected representatives deign to even try and stop it.

Scotty, Beam Me Up!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:48 AM (izaSZ)

20 I know I'm in unsympathetic company. And I loved LoTR as a kid. I used to sit and drink tea while my dad read it to me.

But I've always viewed it as a children's parable, like the Chronicles of Narnia.

It's a childish thing. It outlines some basic archetypes needed for proper social and emotional development. It's not a thing for grownups. I get the same weird vibe from Boomers and GenX who love it as I do from Millennials with their Harry Potter fetish.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 11:50 AM (BI5O2)

21 “Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? ”

In my city $250k homes don’t exist. Last time they did was maybe 2010 at the bottom of the crash. And even then $250k didn’t get you much.

Posted by: Reality Check at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (rf/GM)

22 Thx K.T.
I actually did to a friend who's a big lefty whether he wanted his children and grandchildren growing up under the DSA ( our state rep is DSA) . He immediately began rambling about Trump.
The middle class left doesn't even comprehend the cognitive dissonance from which they suffer

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (OXYE0)

23 Debt…or lowering what you can get? Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? Why get a $70K vehicle when you can get one for $15-20K that works as well?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 11:42 AM (4g5V+)


Find a house in your area that is 250 000. Gather 50,000 for the down payment. Imagine paying 2000 a month for that house for 30 years on the remainder.
Your job may go away in five years.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:53 AM (rbvCR)

24 I like looking at houses on Redfin and Century 21.
Century 21 has listings for Argentina too, and you know, the concept of what a proper house should be is very culturally based.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:56 AM (rbvCR)

25 Senator Edward Kennedy didn't even report the fatal incident for another 10 hours
——

1969 was busy. This debacle was overshadowed by the Apollo 11 first landing on the Moon that week. The Manson “Family” murders in LA in August, and the Woodstock hippie disaster in upstate NY. Lots of stuff going on. Capped off with a “Free” Rolling Stones concert out in California.

They then deployed James Taylor and Thorazine to get everyone to mellow out a bit by the 1970s

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:58 AM (izaSZ)

26 I like the towns where the elevation exceeds the population

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:59 AM (izaSZ)

27 Juan Valdez wasn't even Guatemalan!
Posted by: Kindltot
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Next you'll tell me that Iron Eyes Cody wasn't actually an indian...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 11:59 AM (XeU6L)

28 "And the very last end of the war, I hope" said Merry. "I hope so," said Frodo and sighed, "the very last stroke. But to think it should fall here, at the very door of Bag End, among all my hopes and fears at least I never expected that." Return of the King, Chapter 8.

The scene of the four hobbits in the tavern, while showing an optimistic ending, cheats the narrative of its essence--the fight against evil begins and ends at home. The "scouring of the Shire" is an essential part of the book, helping to transform the complacent and passive hobbits. That transformation, of the four Companions as well as much of the Shire's population, is the theme of the book. Leaving it out cheats the viewer.

Posted by: Joe at July 18, 2026 12:00 PM (FBeFb)

29 I'm unavailable for comment.

https://tinyurl.com/23k2fkf6

Posted by: The ghost of MJK at July 18, 2026 12:01 PM (2Ez/1)

30 I like the towns where the elevation exceeds the population
Posted by: Common Tater
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Holding the high ground is fundamental strategy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 12:02 PM (XeU6L)

31 Scripture: Know, love and serve the Lord with all your heart, mind and soul. Love your neighbor as yourself.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 12:04 PM (YlWIZ)

32 I'm unavailable for comment.

https://tinyurl.com/23k2fkf6

Posted by: The ghost of MJK

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Me either.

Posted by: Martha Moxley at July 18, 2026 12:05 PM (XeU6L)

33 Find a copy of A Clockwork Orange with Burgess' final chapter included.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 12:06 PM (YlWIZ)

34 Hard men ( I'm talking about the population as a whole) who built this country had to know who their adversaries were and how those adversaries were planning to take over their freedom. Those hard men created the life of luxury available today to all Americans where they don't have to think about anything except living their best life. That will cause its downfall.

It's a vicious cycle.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:07 PM (/WQyy)

35 @16 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:08 PM (OXYE0)

36 This is where Isildur lost the ring. See nic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:11 PM (/WQyy)

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When Ted Kennedy was alive and my liberal friend adored her, I asked her Well, what about Mary Jo? She'd never heard of the whole thing. Never heard of Chappaquiddick. I told her to look it up. She got back to me and asked me what the fuss was about. It could have been an accident.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 12:12 PM (mmrXZ)

38
adored him*

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 12:12 PM (mmrXZ)

39 Juan Valdez was a hobbit?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 11:33 AM (2WIwB)

Juan Valdez wasn't even Guatemalan!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:39 AM (rbvCR)


Jeez.
That bastard surprised us both!
He's probably an illegal living in Sacramento now.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 12:15 PM (2WIwB)

40 doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:08 PM (OXYE

Do 'cliff notes' count because I don't want to be a useful idiot.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:16 PM (/WQyy)

41 They then deployed James Taylor and Thorazine to get everyone to mellow out a bit by the 1970s

But not that mellow much given there were 2200 leftist bombings in a month at one point in the early 70s. The Democrats staged Civil War 2 and nobody noticed / Walter Cronkite didn't think it was news so they won by default and took over the universities. That's how we got Obama.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2026 12:16 PM (QZThv)

42 33 Find a copy of A Clockwork Orange with Burgess' final chapter included.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 18, 2026 12:06 PM (YlWIZ)

I got one. With no glossary.

The copy I read was missing the chapter but had the glossary. (Though I have found if you have a working knowledge of Russian, the glossary is not needed.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:17 PM (4g5V+)

43 Next you'll tell me that Iron Eyes Cody wasn't actually an indian...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 11:59 AM (XeU6L)


Doubt he was ever within a thousand miles of Mumbai

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 12:17 PM (rbvCR)

44 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 12:12 PM (mmrXZ

You should have told her the story and substituted Trump for Kennedy. I bet her reaction would be a bit different.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:17 PM (/WQyy)

45 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling

I may have spotted the flaw in your argument.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 12:18 PM (vTZFs)

46 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital. If they did and had a brain they'd realize what gibberish Marx was peddling

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:08 PM (OXYE0)


They had it explained to them by a manipulative cadre chief, and their equally manipulative professors. Plus a compliant media touted the pseudo-socialism of the Scandinavian countries.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 12:19 PM (l4RKn)

47 One of the things that I didn't like Jackson leaving out of LofTR was Merry and Pippen becoming the largest hobbits ever after drinking from the Entwash. Not a huge deal but it shows the impact that the journey had on the two

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:19 PM (OXYE0)

48 I doubt any of the useful idiots have ever read The Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital.

Not to mention Marx's personal letters where he's raving about the N-words.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2026 12:19 PM (QZThv)

49
Find a house in your area that is 250 000. Gather 50,000 for the down payment. Imagine paying 2000 a month for that house for 30 years on the remainder.
Your job may go away in five years.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:53 AM (rbvCR)

There are houses in my area that will go for less than $100K. (Which I won’t buy because I know why they are that low: because they are hard to sell to begin with.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:20 PM (4g5V+)

50 There’s a fairly scholarly tome written by a guy who posits Marx, who grew up in a reasonably well adjusted family, became heavily involved in occult or satanic devil worship wackery. He was a strange cat.

One glaring difference in the OG Soviet, they didn’t have any illusions about paying people not to work. No “universal basic income” siren song schemes.

They assigned you a job. “Report to Glorious Widget Factory #6” You don’t refuse. Now you might pretend to work while you’re there, while they pretend to pay you, but they sent you off to a Gulag if you refused.

Central Planning! Gotta love it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:20 PM (izaSZ)

51 I'm sure all the idiots who wear the Che" Guevara t-shirt don't have a clue who he really was either.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:22 PM (/WQyy)

52 @51 Che definitely did not think much of the black folks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 12:23 PM (OXYE0)

53 One glaring difference in the OG Soviet, they didn’t have any illusions about paying people not to work. No “universal basic income” siren song schemes.

They assigned you a job. “Report to Glorious Widget Factory #6” You don’t refuse. Now you might pretend to work while you’re there, while they pretend to pay you, but they sent you off to a Gulag if you refused.


And that's exactly the attraction for rich Democrats now: you sell it to the unwashed as glorious equality with no work and UBI, but the reality is feudalism where the masses are forced to cower to your every demand. Especially your every weird sex fetish demand.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 18, 2026 12:24 PM (QZThv)

54 Coulda been first, but read the contents. Fed the cat. Showered. Read some more content. For over an hour.
Such is life.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 12:24 PM (sl73Y)

55 An entire generation (or two) has gone through academia and been groomed in all things socialist. All the while the names Marx, Mao, etc. are never mentioned and the kids are oblivious to them.

Could their educators indoctrinators have omitted this by design?

Yes, yes they did.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 12:25 PM (jehhT)

56 “It could have been an accident”

It could have been, but that isn’t the point, nothing Kennedy ever said or did after that point made any sense.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:26 PM (izaSZ)

57 I'm sure all the idiots who wear the Che" Guevara t-shirt don't have a clue who he really was either.
Posted by: polynikes

Maybe. A good number of progressives like to play dumb.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 12:27 PM (wOO3z)

58 Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 11:53 AM (rbvCR)

10% down is usually the number for first time homebuyers. A 225k mortgage would be about 1700-1800 a month plus insurance and property tax. Another 500 a month approximately. That's what a decent 2 bedroom apartment costs .

I honestly don't see any more difficulty I had buying my first house than the difficulty today. It has always been tough and stressful.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:30 PM (/WQyy)

59 Awesome content. I'm only halfway through, butbthisbvaught my eye:

"When she sees Trump (and Trump surrogates) being harsh and insulting on TV, she thinks about how she tries to treat people — the kind of people she meets in her real life, in her safe neighborhood."

From what I've heard, Trump's treatment of the people he reacts with, doorman, waiters, cleaning staff, is stellar. He sees them as resl human beings and engages with them as people. The stories I hear about Kamala and Hillary make me think they would rsther be surrounded by mindless drones with no personal life who are there strictly to don't heir bidding and otherwise disappear.

I could be wrong as most of what Inhear is third-hand knowledge, but I would still much rather be a member of the service industry with Trump as a customer than most other politicians-- or celebrities of any stripe, really.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:31 PM (2RJDy)

60 Maybe. A good number of progressives like to play dumb.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 12:27 PM (wOO3z)

I'm talking about his racism and psychopathic murdering.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:32 PM (/WQyy)

61 30 year low down payment low interest government backed loans were a post World War II creation. Prior to the banking collapse of the 1930s, mortgages were ordinarily 50% down, 7 year notes callable at any time.

Tough row to hoe, but the banks had virtually zero risk exposure, and neither did the homeowner for that matter. This arrangement was a plot line in early Westerns. Widow Jenny is going to lose the ranch, because some sharpy bought the note and is demanding full payment so he can acquire the property.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:35 PM (izaSZ)

62 >>>An entire generation (or two) has gone through academia and been groomed in all things socialist. All the while the names Marx, Mao, etc. are never mentioned and the kids are oblivious to them.

>Don't forget Kant and Hegel when the topic is Marx and Engels. The mindfuck runs deep.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 12:37 PM (sYM3s)

63
Longer work hours to cover the debt, more commuting.

Isn't everybody working from home now?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 12:38 PM (Cqx++)

64 Hillary's treatment of "the help" is abysmal and has been documented over and over. She's a royal bitch of the first order.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 12:38 PM (jehhT)

65 Living within your means is an outdated idea.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:39 PM (/WQyy)

66 Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:31 PM (2RJDy

I get the feeling that when Trump's father taught him about the construction and the real estate business he had him learn about all facets off it and talk to people and get to know them personally . Therefore, he wasn't lording it over people although he expects a well done job and on time. He knows them as individuals and talks to them . I think I read in another context that one of the Secret Service folks said that of all the Presidents he had done security for, Trump may have been the only or one if the few who knew his name and knew about his family. That to me says a lot.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:40 PM (jt/rW)

67 Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:31 PM (2RJDy

Oh, sorry. You basically said what I said in your prior post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:42 PM (jt/rW)

68 I have no idea what any of this means nor do I care.I thought you should know this. Happy Trails.

Posted by: Gill Westrum at July 18, 2026 12:43 PM (yqhRp)

69 “From what I've heard, Trump's treatment of the people he reacts with, doorman, waiters, cleaning staff, is stellar. He sees them as real human beings and engages with them as people. The stories I hear about Harris and Clinton ….”

In the .mil I heard all about what it was like working VIP details for the pols. As one might suspect, leftist Democrats are generally total dickheads to work for and treat everyone like shit. GW Bush was pretty decent to work for, Billy Jeff was good too, though decidedly not SWMBO. AlGore was a grade A asshole, and so on.

As the saying goes, you can tell a lot about a person by the way they treat people who can do nothing for them. It’s a character defect, and a disqualifying one to my way of thinking.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:43 PM (izaSZ)

70 I think that's why the "campaign op " of Trump working at McDonalds was so successful. It made him approachable , it seemed down to earth ( I get the sense her really liked meeting the customers and talking with them) and it made Kamala look ridiculous since she had evidently never worked at McDonalds as she had claimed .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:48 PM (jt/rW)

71 Living within your means is an outdated idea.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:39 PM (/WQyy)


I am happy to be outdated.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (l4RKn)

72 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

73 Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:35 PM

Amazing how much of how we think is based on recent expectations. An older friend, now deceased, was born in a tent outside Las Vegas, where her Dad had a job mining. One of DH's relatives started her married life in a tent in Oildale, CA.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 12:51 PM (rdeQO)

74 In my city $250k homes don’t exist. Last time they did was maybe 2010 at the bottom of the crash. And even then $250k didn’t get you much.
Posted by: Reality Check at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (rf/GM)

Then maybe you should get out of that city.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 12:51 PM (1z8ji)

75 Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

I don't not want to be on a first name basis with her nor am I. Just used it as it was the first thing that came to mind rather than Harris.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 12:54 PM (xTinh)

76 72 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

Well, I'm certainly not going to render her the unearned respect of referring to her as "Mrs. Harris."

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:55 PM (2RJDy)

77 Posted by: Gill Westrum at July 18, 2026 12:43 PM (yqhRp)

You're welcome. Come again when you can't stay as long.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 12:58 PM (1z8ji)

78 76 72 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

Well, I'm certainly not going to render her the unearned respect of referring to her as "Mrs. Harris."
Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:55 PM (2RJDy

How about Doug's wife ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2026 12:59 PM (FtULh)

79 For reasons which remain unclear to me, the US military has taken out the Obama Monument in Chicago. I think we can all agree this is a big one for everyone.

https://tinyurl.com/mvy6wn4h

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2026 12:59 PM (Riz8t)

80 A big "win".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2026 01:00 PM (Riz8t)

81 I wish the socialism-curious LIVs would just stop and think what would happen if the State were in sole charge of distributing goods and services (supposedly to make things "fair").

What would keep the distributors from being or becoming corrupt? After all, the available resources are going to be passing through their hands.

How does it "expand access" if the access is restricted to government sources? In free markets a person has a chance of finding what they need because there are multiple sources.

What are you going to do about human greed? In free markets, a person who wants more can produce more of something to trade for what they want. In a socialist system, a person who wants more must cheat and steal.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 18, 2026 01:00 PM (OlzlW)

82 “Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (izaSZ)

Well, I'm certainly not going to render her the unearned respect of referring to her as "Mrs. Harris."
Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 12:55 PM (2RJDy

How about Doug's wife ?
Posted by: It's me donna

I've got a few names.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 01:00 PM (wOO3z)

83 It could have been an accident.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at

The ability to justify pretty much anything is an absolute art form. The test is when you substitute a Republican for the dem in question - ex. Can you believe Senator Kennedy from LA let a woman drown? Just left her there? *Que horror, disgusting, he should be in jail from lefty* - proceed to look it up to “find the exact date” oops, my bad. Wrong Kennedy.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (Dd38x)

84 How about Doug's wife ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2026 12:59 PM (FtULh)

I might go with "Willie Brown's side piece."

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (2RJDy)

85
“Kamala”. I find it astonishing even ostensibly conservative posters here feel they are on a first name basis with these critters
Posted by: Common Tater

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What on earth are you on about? Kamala. Hillary. Barack. I'm not going to give them any deference or call them by their honorifics. "President Obama"? Hah.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (mmrXZ)

86 >> Living within your means is an outdated idea.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 12:39 PM (/WQyy)

I am happy to be outdated.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2026 12:50 PM (l4RKn)
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fist bump

It takes discipline.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (jehhT)

87 Why get a $500K home if you can get something half that? ”

In my city $250k homes don’t exist. Last time they did was maybe 2010 at the bottom of the crash. And even then $250k didn’t get you much.
Posted by: Reality Check at July 18, 2026 11:51 AM (rf/GM)

Then move somewhere where good quality can be obtained with much less money. There are places like that. All one needs is the courage to make that decision. Sheesh!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:04 PM (g8Ew8)

88 Then move somewhere where good quality can be obtained with much less money. There are places like that. All one needs is the courage to make that decision. Sheesh!
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:04 PM (g8Ew


There is a couple of really nice houses in Edgar NE. No real jobs, but the houses are nice.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:06 PM (rbvCR)

89 Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (jehhT)

Which Gen Z in general doesn't seem to have. They want it all and want it now. That applies to the previous generation also and I see that having some pushback effect on some of the responsible Gen Zers.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (/WQyy)

90 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

91 What on earth are you on about? Kamala. Hillary. Barack. I'm not going to give them any deference or call them by their honorifics. "President Obama"? Hah.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:01 PM (mmrXZ)

That's why we have derogatory nicknames for all these shitmaggots. Kumswalla, Barky, Cthillary, Tampon Timmy, etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (1z8ji)

92 The amount of credit card debt some people carry is insane. Not to mention having 2+ vehicle payments.

That shit would frighten me.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (+aHIC)

93 There is a couple of really nice houses in Edgar NE. No real jobs, but the houses are nice.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:06 PM (rbvCR)

Details! 😂

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:08 PM (Dd38x)

94 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

I completely understand that for families but if you're single, nothing should stop you from taking chances.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 01:09 PM (/WQyy)

95 >>I get the feeling that when Trump's father taught him about the construction and the real estate business he had him learn about all facets off it and talk to people and get to know them personally . Therefore, he wasn't lording it over people although he expects a well done job and on time. He knows them as individuals and talks to them .

There's a video out there somewhere that talks about Donald's early years working for his father. His dad owned apartment building and Trump started literally at the bottom doing things like making sure the laundry rooms were clean and working properly.

There are interviews of tenants from all backgrounds talking about was a kind and respectful young man he was. For all his ego and bluster in his public persona the stories about his kindness and generosity when the cameras aren't on him are probably closer to who he truly is as a person

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:10 PM (viF8m)

96 There are nice houses here, but the jobs are ag and oil. And it's not a place that is likely to ever be trendy, which is why I am here. There are actually a lot of reasonably priced homes in the Midwest. You will never find that on either of the coasts.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 18, 2026 01:11 PM (bkuEU)

97 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

One has to move to where the jobs are. Of course, in a boomtown economy, housing my be scarce and expensive, too. Trick is to find one's niche.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:11 PM (1z8ji)

98 Saying move sounds good until you find there are no employment opportunities in the area.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:07 PM (abScH)

I've moved to places where people say there aren't any jobs. What I've found: There's always jobs if you look hard enough.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:11 PM (g8Ew8)

99 Trump was also the rent collector. I'm sure that was fun.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 01:12 PM (+aHIC)

100 Time for another cup of coffee.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM (1z8ji)

101
one of the Secret Service folks said that of all the Presidents he had done security for, Trump may have been the only or one if the few who knew his name and knew about his family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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And these are the people Hillary would claim to "be down with yo." Hey, I get you. I'm one of you.

Have you ever seen her hanging with anyone but some elite entertainer, media person, millionaire, politician, whatever? I don't think she likes or enjoys those people, either; she needs them as donors, megaphones, image-polishers.

I wonder if there's anyone she doesn't despise, whose company she does more than endure. Maybe her Huma and Chelsea, and that's about it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM (mmrXZ)

102 The home buying thing is interesting to me- I do think there are people who would like the ability to up and move, job relocation, what have you, and renting makes sense for this situation. I also think there are people who watch way too much HGTV and feel like they need a little more house than they actually do - needs and want are 2 separate things. Would it be nice for all the kids to have their own rooms? Sure! Will they die if they share a room? Nope. Would it be nice to have a gourmet kitchen? Yes! Can you cook on a stove that is white or *gasp* yellow for a few years? Yes. Do we love a big pantry? We do. Can you survive without one? You can.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (Dd38x)

103 polynikes, agreed but having a financial savings safety net to keep one afloat until finding employment, I'm assuming , is not a reality for some.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (abScH)

104 You can do ok for $250K around here and there are plenty of employment opportunities. You could even pick up 50-60 undeveloped acres or so for that.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (MWfyi)

105 Brave AI says 2984 homes are currently listed for sale at 250K or under in LA. They may be shitholes, but I'm not buying that they don't exist, even in the most expensive cities.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (XvL8K)

106 If you listen to Trump when he waxes poetic about something, like what it takes to run a business or fix a car, build a building or whatever... he's knows his shit.

It's not just babble. He actually knows the processes, the skills needed and so on. For all his wealth he's probably the closest to a "blue collar" President we've had in some time.

The cussing helps.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 01:17 PM (jehhT)

107 Oh, and the town has fiber optic, which means I was able to keep working from home when I moved. But there's not a lot in the way of night life.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 18, 2026 01:18 PM (bkuEU)

108
Brave AI says 2984 homes are currently listed for sale at 250K or under in LA. They may be shitholes, but I'm not buying that they don't exist, even in the most expensive cities.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

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LA = Los Angeles or LA = Louisiana?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:18 PM (mmrXZ)

109 103 polynikes, agreed but having a financial savings safety net to keep one afloat until finding employment, I'm assuming , is not a reality for some.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (abScH)

You will appreciate this- when I was married to the person we don’t speak of, he was an NCO, we bought an 1800s farm house that looked like an 1800s farm house. It was awful. The washer and dryer was in the den, there was no heat or AC upstairs. The upstairs bath hadn’t been touched since indoor plumbing was invented, and for a long time, the only bathroom that really was workable was downstairs. For 4 of us. Why did we buy this place? Because it had property and the barn was really, really cute. My horses lived better than we did. lol. Priorities.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:19 PM (Dd38x)

110 Brave AI says 2984 homes are currently listed for sale at 250K or under in LA. They may be shitholes, but I'm not buying that they don't exist, even in the most expensive cities.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 01:14 PM (XvL8K)

Buy the fixer-upper, the worst home on the block. Put some sweat equity into it, and make it the second-worst. Keep going.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:20 PM (1z8ji)

111 Argument: Young people today are undisciplined and can't pool their money for buying a house, they should buy a cheap house

Counter: cheap houses are not a thing, and a lot of the supply got bought up by people who had houses that they then rent. The rent is reasonable, on the whole, and the owner has no interest in selling. This pushes the supply down, and various other things like zoning and fees keep the new home starts down in markets where there are a lot of starter jobs

Rebuttal: Young people have no discipline, and should sacrifice more.

Kindltot's response: Whatever.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (rbvCR)

112 >>>I wonder if there's anyone she doesn't despise, whose company she does more than endure. Maybe her Huma and Chelsea, and that's about it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

>I'm hoping that her loss to Trump eats at her blackened soul until the day she dies. Is that wrong?

Hillary will never be president.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (sYM3s)

113 You will appreciate this- when I was married to the person we don’t speak of, he was an NCO, we bought an 1800s farm house that looked like an 1800s farm house. It was awful. The washer and dryer was in the den, there was no heat or AC upstairs. The upstairs bath hadn’t been touched since indoor plumbing was invented, and for a long time, the only bathroom that really was workable was downstairs. For 4 of us. Why did we buy this place? Because it had property and the barn was really, really cute. My horses lived better than we did. lol. Priorities.
Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:19 PM (Dd38x)

LOL.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (g8Ew8)

114 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM (mmrXZ)

I think she is not at ease with most people. It may be introversion and so needs to have alone time to recharge. She probably has not had a happy life either as a kid or certainly as an adult so it's turned her into a raging narcissist. Having lots of money and privilege has certainly not helped Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (zqeQL)

115 >>The amount of credit card debt some people carry is insane. Not to mention having 2+ vehicle payments.

>>That shit would frighten me.

Kids graduating college with 6 figures of student debt blows my mind. Congratulations! You're screwed.

Someday people will finally start asking why Obama had the federal government take over the student loan industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:21 PM (viF8m)

116 Morticia - Los Angeles. The number for Louisiana, statewide, would probably be in the hundreds of thousands. With some pretty nice ones for 250K.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 01:22 PM (XvL8K)

117 Buy the fixer-upper, the worst home on the block. Put some sweat equity into it, and make it the second-worst. Keep going.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:20 PM (1z8ji)


Should they borrow for the money to rebuild the house they are paying the mortgage on? I have 15 grand to redo the plumbing in my house, but I didn't have it when I was 25

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:23 PM (rbvCR)

118 Piper, I live in the barn !

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:24 PM (abScH)

119 There's a big piece of the Mary Jo story you have to keep in mind: timing.
It happened on today's date, the 18th of July.

The very next day a guy by the name of Armstrong stepped off a ladder and sucked all of the oxygen out of our puny little three network broadcast media room.

Ted who?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 01:24 PM (2Ez/1)

120 118 Piper, I live in the barn !
Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 01:24 PM (abScH)

I have seen adorable places in barns. And who wouldn’t want to wake up to everyone nickering? I always pretended it was because they were excited to see me, not the food cart.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 01:29 PM (Dd38x)

121
>I'm hoping that her loss to Trump eats at her blackened soul until the day she dies. Is that wrong?

Hillary will never be president.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

===============

No, that's not wrong.

"Hillary will never be president" would make a nice bumper sticker.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (mmrXZ)

122 Remember, skipping second breakfasts can have shire consequences.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (0sNs1)

123 Should they borrow for the money to rebuild the house they are paying the mortgage on? I have 15 grand to redo the plumbing in my house, but I didn't have it when I was 25
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:23 PM (rbvCR)

I used term "sweat equity" for a reason. Don't borrow more money to fix the place up. Do it slowly, using what little surplus cash you may have. Haunt places like the Habitat Re-Store, and buy used fixtures, and appliances, etc. Use the sweat of your brow to make the place better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (1z8ji)

124 The Horse Trailer is the place to be, according to TxMoMe legend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:33 PM (0sNs1)

125 >>Should they borrow for the money to rebuild the house they are paying the mortgage on? I have 15 grand to redo the plumbing in my house, but I didn't have it when I was 25

AOP reminds me of my dad in a way. He almost never thought about hiring someone to do anything. His first instinct was always, "I can do this myself". Or in my case, "I have built in slave labor, we can do this.".

I was the youngest and about 5 minutes after I graduated high school my folks sold suburbia and moved to Mars and bought an old farm that was originally built around 1800 and hadn't been lived in for over 50 years. There were literally bats living in the place.

People would be surprised what they can do themselves if they actually tried instead of googling for the nearest plumber.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:35 PM (viF8m)

126 whose company she does more than endure. Maybe her Huma and Chelsea, and that's about it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:13 PM


Ahem.

Posted by: Valu-Rite Premium Pour at July 18, 2026 01:35 PM (0sNs1)

127 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 01:30 PM (mmrXZ)

Someone might do damage to my car if i put that on back on that, I did have a "Keep Christ in Christmas " peel off thing during the Christmas season. I try to stay away from bumper stickers during campaign seasons. The people with the ""F Trump!" And "Are we MAGA yet? I just feel embarrassed" on the back of their cars might take physical offense towards my vehicle .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (+zjUf)

128 There were literally bats living in the place.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:35 PM


Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (0sNs1)

129 From all the chatter on official channels, and of course the crap the Iranians are talking, it seems like a better than even chance that they’re gonna do something really, really stupid in the next 2 - 3 days.
Which will force Trump into doing the kind of major attack that he’s been trying to avoid up til now. Oh we’ve been making plenty of attacks, but nothing like we could do if we really get pissed off and serious about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 01:39 PM (AnnNE)

130 >>Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.

If there were horses in Antarctica, my mom would probably chosen that instead. We had to rebuild the barn first because of course.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:39 PM (viF8m)

131 Just used it as it was the first thing that came to mind rather than Harris.
——

Well right, and we’re all susceptible to that, which is my point. It’s pervasive and insidious

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (xJ+d7)

132 The DSA wants to obliterate anything resembling our federal system and state sovereignty since that might get in their way. They literally want the "elected dictatorship" of a parliamentary system (at least at first) that gives them complete power.

The only thing I partially agree with is that the executive was never intended to be more powerful than Congress. But they want to subordinate *everything* to the legislature and "majority rule" with no checks is just tyranny of the majority let loose.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (gUs21)

133 Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (0sNs1)

At least they eat mosquitoes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:41 PM (1z8ji)

134 When I first read that essay about poor young folk, what really struck me was the emphasis on trusted family and neighbors. I think there's something there.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 01:41 PM (rdeQO)

135 Well right, and we’re all susceptible to that, which is my point. It’s pervasive and insidious
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:40 PM (xJ+d7)

There is a distressing tendency to refer to trannies by the wrong (i.e. their preferred, LOL) pronouns. Of course it's policy in the enemedia, but too many people here simply cut and paste, without the obligatory "sic".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:45 PM (1z8ji)

136 Infinitely better than penguins living in the place.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 01:37 PM (0sNs1)

At least they eat mosquitoes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:41 PM (1z8ji)
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Leopard seals living in the place would eat the penguins.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 18, 2026 01:48 PM (amcLV)

137 My friend's brother graduated from Medical School with a bunch of debt. It was all forgiven because he took a job on a Rez with a $50,000 / year job for two years. That was in 1980. Just outside of Sacramento.

100k in debt from a worthless degree? LOL

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 01:48 PM (qFwJc)

138 “I'm not going to give them any deference or call them by their honorifics”

If I’d suggested that, you might have a point.

Referring to politicians by their first name is “call them by their honorifics”, that’s my point. That’s what they want. See where I’m goin’ with that?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:49 PM (xJ+d7)

139 @Sovey is pretty good at number crunching. No idea if she exists

In 1992, the median first-time homebuyer in America was 28.

NAR's latest survey puts that number at 40. The oldest ever recorded.

Twelve years added to the wait, in a single generation. That is not a personality flaw. You cannot budget your way out of twelve years.

The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

THE WRONG VILLAIN




https://tinyurl.com/yc56rjae

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:50 PM (rbvCR)

140 IMHO, the Iranians are threatening a lot of stuff they cannot actually do anymore.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 01:51 PM (qFwJc)

141 Two US service people killed in Jordan, others hospitalized

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 01:52 PM (OXYE0)

142 But I used to read about when all the boomers die, there is going to be a glut of housing on the market.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 01:52 PM (qFwJc)

143 Democracy to me is like a poker game. You have to ante up if you want to have a share of the pot. If you don't ante up you have no say in how the pot is distributed.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 01:53 PM (1vOUV)

144 >>100k in debt from a worthless degree? LOL

And it was entirely predictable once the feds took over the student loan business. In fact, that was the plan.

Young people now bi-curious for socialism/communism because life has become too expensive was always the goal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:53 PM (viF8m)

145 Democracy to me is like a poker game. You have to ante up if you want to have a share of the pot. If you don't ante up you have no say in how the pot is distributed.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 01:53 PM (1vOUV)
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And then you wait for the other guy to cheat so you can clip him.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 18, 2026 01:55 PM (amcLV)

146 Young people now bi-curious for socialism/communism because life has become too expensive was always the goal.
——-

‘Zackley

“The worse, the better” VI Lenin

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 01:57 PM (xJ+d7)

147 Democracy is idiotic on its face. We’re watching it self destruct in real time. This was both predictable and predicted. “Universal Suffrage” apparently in practice means allowing people - anyone - with no stake in the game to participate, and those at the top and bottom of the social strata have made it abundantly clear they want to destroy this system of democracy by majority vote. How weird is that?...



...Scotty, Beam Me Up!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 11:48 AM (izaSZ)



The "majority vote" is what destroyed Rhodesia - "The Breadbasket of Africa". The Rhodesians foresaw this but it didn't matter because Jimmy Carter and the communist Labor Party in England decided it was better to virtue signal their "fairness" than to oppose the communist animal Nationalists - backed by the communist animal Soviets and Red Chinese. And today you have Zimbabwe, one of the worst places on earth to live.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:00 PM (1vOUV)

148
In 1992, the median first-time homebuyer in America was 28.

I was 37 when I bought mine. In 1989.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 02:01 PM (Cqx++)

149 Darn... Looks like we've lost 3 soldiers in an attack on a base in Jordan

Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2026 02:01 PM (FtULh)

150 I was glad Samwise Gamgee is finally getting laid.
That would be in the extended cut on 4K release.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at July 18, 2026 02:01 PM (DIS3S)

151 >>And today you have Zimbabwe, one of the worst places on earth to live.

I had a customer in South Africa whose family was originally from Rhodesia. They fled rather than get murdered when it turned into Zimbabwe. He and his family are now in Australia.

Lots of people think it could never happen here. It can happen here.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:06 PM (viF8m)

152 Lots of people thought it could never happen here. That was a while ago.

Lots of those swme people are wondering now “how do we stop it from happening”.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:11 PM (xJ+d7)

153 Sinclair Lewis wrote a book about that.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 02:12 PM (abScH)

154 The DSA wants the US to be like France and UK combined. National Assembly. No Bill of Rights. No restrictions on the power of the govt.

Full-blown Soviet Russia.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 02:12 PM (qFwJc)

155 ...Lots of people think it could never happen here. It can happen here.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:06 PM (viF8m)



There's a great essay at American Greatness - "We are all Rhodesians Now". I'd give the link but I'm too inept at doing it. Pixy keeps rejecting it.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:14 PM (1vOUV)

156 NAR's latest survey puts that number at 40. The oldest ever recorded.

Twelve years added to the wait, in a single generation. That is not a personality flaw. You cannot budget your way out of twelve years.

The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

https://tinyurl.com/yc56rjae
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 01:50 PM (rbvCR)

worse? With the standard 30 year loan, that means you pay off you Home at age 70? You know, years after the normal retirement age? How the hell does that work?

They have created a perpetual Debt situation for most real estate... someone will always have an active loan on it, paying interest to? Oh... Banks...

And it is total debt through Fractional Lending, that creates the money stream that drives inflation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 02:19 PM (mP0Kj)

157
Darn... Looks like we've lost 3 soldiers in an attack on a base in Jordan
Posted by: It's me donna

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Well that's it then. Rain hell on them like they've never seen it before. Come on, Mr. President.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:19 PM (mmrXZ)

158
The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

Posted by: Kindltot

================

I haven't looked at all the numbers or the whole story, but we've talked about this here. A "starter home" to the previous generation was a small old thing in a safe but humble neighborhood. A "starter home" to people on the Caleb Hammer podcast is a brand-new, gleaming, two-story spread like they grew up in. Caveat: I'm not sure how representative his guests are of real working couples trying to get started in life now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:25 PM (mmrXZ)

159 Carter and Rhodesia. That’s why I can’t reallly ascribe good motivations to guys like him. He wasn’t demonstrably stupid, consequently he had to known what the end result would ultimately be, which was demonstrably stupid.

Rhodesia was s net exporter of food. Zimbabwe can’t feed itself. Pretty much job 1 for a government. At least get the fuck out of the way.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:27 PM (xJ+d7)

160 Transportation costs a fair bit more, because while cars are a lot more reliable and require less maintenance, they are sophisticated. $100 bought a decent used car for many years. Not anymore, not adjusted for inflation, by any measure they are pretty expensive.

Younger generations often don’t even want a car, and given the cost, hassles, insurance, etc it’s understandable.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:30 PM (xJ+d7)

161 I just thought of something. We might talk about “turning up the heat” in the winter. But the converse isn’t true. I’ve never heard anybody say “Turn down the cold” for air conditioning. Maybe?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:36 PM (xJ+d7)

162 Carter and Rhodesia. That’s why I can’t reallly ascribe good motivations to guys like him. He wasn’t demonstrably stupid, consequently he had to known what the end result would ultimately be, which was demonstrably stupid.

Rhodesia was s net exporter of food. Zimbabwe can’t feed itself. Pretty much job 1 for a government. At least get the fuck out of the way.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 02:27 PM (xJ+d7)



Perhaps not demonstrably stupid, but demonstrably - and dangerously - naive. Remember he gave us the Ayatollah when he refused to back the Shah (who was our strongest ally in the region). And he gave away the Panama Canal; And he gave us Desert 1. The list goes on and the more I think about it, I do think he was stupid.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:39 PM (F8tLW)

163 Chairborne, and those were just his foreign policy disasters.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 02:43 PM (abScH)

164
There's a great essay at American Greatness - "We are all Rhodesians Now". I'd give the link but I'm too inept at doing it. Pixy keeps rejecting it.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!


https://t.ly/EgPaW

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 02:45 PM (Cqx++)

165 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 02:45 PM (Cqx++)


Thanks for that. You are more ept than I.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:47 PM (F8tLW)

166 Forget the 30 something middle class, embrace the 21st century robber barons of real estate for the new age. A lifetime of debt, and student loan payments for your children until you're 60. That's the dream.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 18, 2026 02:53 PM (sYM3s)

167 Chairborne, and those were just his foreign policy disasters.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 18, 2026 02:43 PM (abScH)



Yes, he was a fool. All around. And remember he also got a Nobel Piss Prize. Which, in my case, convinced me that those a-holes in Stockholm were worthless fools too...even before they gave one to Barky.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 02:54 PM (F8tLW)

168 If you're going to refer to Malachi, at least do God's Word justice. This, like many other verses, requires not only a proper version but also context. In this instance, context requires, at minimum, the previous verse.

Malachi 4:5-6

5 - Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 - And he shall turn the heart of the father's to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 18, 2026 02:55 PM (dAv7M)

169 The DSA wants the US to be like France and UK combined. National Assembly. No Bill of Rights. No restrictions on the power of the govt.

Full-blown Soviet Russia.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 02:12 PM


The difference is that this time, the right people will be in charge.

/sarc

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2026 03:17 PM (0sNs1)

170 The list goes on and the more I think about it, I do think he was stupid.
——

No, this is my point.

If he was merely incompetent or naive, then by the law of averages once in a while he would have made beneficial mistakes. That never happened.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 03:24 PM (xJ+d7)

171 No, this is my point.

If he was merely incompetent or naive, then by the law of averages once in a while he would have made beneficial mistakes. That never happened.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 03:24 PM (xJ+d7)



Agreed.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 03:34 PM (F8tLW)

172 Carter was a well-meaning fool.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 03:43 PM (qFwJc)

173 Well meaning....no
fool.....yes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 03:44 PM (wOO3z)

174 TeeJ at July 18, 2026 02:55 PM

Thanks for the scriptural context. That's the version I've typically heard and read.

Bible Gateway says: Malachi 4:6 New International Version 6 He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the land with total destruction."

Pretty strong.

Posted by: KT at July 18, 2026 03:52 PM (rdeQO)

175 Your translations are crap:

"In that day saith the Lord, I will gather up her that halteth; and her that I cast out. I will gather up: and her whom I had afflicted."

"and I will make her that halteth a remnant, and her that hath been afflicted , a mighty nation. And the Lord will reign over them in mount Sion, from this time now and forever."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 04:05 PM (qFwJc)

176 Gen Z is far too spoiled to live within their means.

They spend six figures on a wedding and whine about not having a brand new house in the Hamptons and a beach house on the Cape.

They never shared a one bedroom apartment amongst three people or rode public transport or worked more than one job at a time while
Going to school.

If the internet isn’t fast enough the world is over.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 18, 2026 04:06 PM (yEz+x)

177 168> Malachi 4:5-6

Just by adding context, and skipping the Dispensational wresting of it, this is an expression of God's desire for restoration, not judgement.

The traditional view is that this was fulfilled with John the Baptist. See Matthew 11:4 and 17:12 or jump straight to Luke 1:17 which links directly to Malachi 4:6

Posted by: Community Notes at July 18, 2026 04:08 PM (pawvM)

178 The starter home did not get harder to earn. It quietly stopped existing.

It exists in the form of

Because of Section 8 and catering to low-trust cultures, those would-be starter home neighborhoods are crime-ridden slums where few people have any eye for aesthetics or understanding of improving, yet alone maintaining their dwellings.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 18, 2026 04:20 PM (PVBkQ)

179 Please send prayers for my grandson Daniel and his wife Madison. He is deployed in Jordan, safe at this moment, and she is getting studies for possible inflammatory breast cancer. I need them both, for continuity of care for my wife. Thanks, dear friends.

Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (z6ONu)

180 Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 18, 2026 04:22 PM (z6ONu)


Done my friend.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 18, 2026 04:33 PM (F8tLW)

181 - Community Notes

The traditional view? It's traditional for the preterists. A view that didn't even get put into any kind of lengthy writing/book form until the early 1600's.

When John the Baptist was asked if he was Elijah his answer was no.
When our Lord was asked His reply was he is, if you will accept it. He knew they wouldn't.

Most people, when they refer to "dispensationalism," are speaking about a form of it held by those who push the pre-trib doctrine of the rapture. A straw man that is easily knocked down.

As easily as both partial and full preterism are.

Our Lord will return and remove His church to safety at some point during the 2nd half of Daniel's 70th week. That 7 year period Daniel spoke of in 9:27 has not yet occurred. We are now in the time of the last phrase of 9:26. "...and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

No one stood in the temple and declared himself to be God in 70AD. 2Thess 2:1-4.
A time of great tribulation (thlipsis - pressure) has not come upon the entire world. A time when no man could buy or sell without taking the mark of the beast.

Cont-

Posted by: TeeJ at July 18, 2026 06:24 PM (dAv7M)

182 Continued -

Historic dispensationalism is two ages. This current evil age and the Kingdom Age to come.
You know, that first request in the Lord's prayer.

To save myself any more one finger typing on this here phone I'm going to suggest a vid for you.
On utube, search "the problems with preterism Dr Michael Weis"

God bless

Posted by: TeeJ at July 18, 2026 06:29 PM (dAv7M)

The Classical Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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[Meme H/T: Dr._No]


Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Between the heat, humidity and smoke, the Frozen Tundra is looking like a thawed bog. Anyway before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Ely)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice. Generosity has its bounds.
3) If I've told you once I've told you 82 bazillion times. No running with sharp objects.
4) Have a great weekend!

*****


AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

Prayer Requests:

5/20 – D gave an update on his wife Susan and her continued battle with cancer. Her cancer markers are still headed in the right direction. She is on a new antibiotic, and it is causing some side effects, but it is keeping her out of another surgery, so that is a win. Thanks again to everyone for their prayers. May 1 marked one year since they found out about the cancer, and Susan is doing so well.
6/24 Update – Everything is going well. The chemo seems to be working, but it’s very hard. The prayers help, so please keep praying for them.

5/23 – I used to have a Different Nic could use some prayers as he waits for the results of a biopsy of a mass on his prostate.
6/23 Update – The latest update is that he has stage 2, “unfavorable intermediate”, which he notes is an awful name, but what it means is, it is in the middle, but bad enough that they want to treat it. It’s more aggressive than previously thought. He is at the point where he has to decide on treatment options, which means choosing which set of pretty unfortunate side effects he prefers.
7/6 Update – He has gotten a second opinion, and selected the option for treatment, which should begin next week.

6/18 – buzzion asked for prayers for a friend named Christina, who has struggled with drug addiction and is in jail again. Buzzion prays that this really is rock bottom and a true wake-up call for her – even if it requires her to stay in jail.
6/29 Update – Christina’s family bonded her out of jail and she has checked into a rehab facility. Please pray that she gets the help she needs.
7/11 Update – Thank you to everyone for your prayers. Christina is doing well in rehab. Please pray that she continues through this and keeps working through it even after getting out of her program.

6/20 – bluebell gave an update on grammie Winger. Grammie had some major surgery related to her cancer in March and is pretty much housebound. She said she isn’t keeping up on news since her diagnosis; she doesn’t have the energy. She said she thinks of her grey-box friends often with fondness. Please keep praying for her. Your prayers are a source of great comfort to her.
6/27 Update – grammie winger requested bluebell to let the Horde know that she is hospitalized again, with sepsis, and cannot eat or walk. She is very tired and cannot speak for long. She is being fed by tube. They don’t know how long she will be hospitalized or where she will go after (rehab, hospice, etc.). Bluebell has a mailing address for grammie, so please contact bluebell to send a card or note to grammie winger. Please pray for her, that her suffering will be eased, and pray for her family, who are suffering along with her.
7/4 – grammie winger posted her thanks for the sweet, sweet cards and letters. She said she treasured each and every one of the Horde reprobates. She can’t express the love she has as she sits there in the cancer hospital.

6/21 – B posted a request for prayers. He said that, due to his own shortcomings, and a moment of madness 6 years ago, B has been estranged from his two sons (age 41 and 36). He has tried to reach out and apologize to them over the past 6 years, to no avail. B asked the Horde to pray for their hearts to open, to allow him to properly apologize, and try to be the father he should have been. The boys are losing their mother to early-onset Alzheimers, and B needs them to know that he’s a better person today than he was then, and he can be counted on.

6/27 – Tom Servo posted prayers of thanks to God that his 38 year-old daughter, who was released from a psych hospital this week after a particularly bad breakdown. She has 2 children, which she does not have custody of, but she still sees, and they are wonderful. She has received more professional care, and it appears to have helped quite a bit. She has new medication and a new commitment to living in a way that will keep her from making a return trip to the hospital.

6/27 – George V sent his thanks to the Horde for their prayers. We had prayed for his wife in May, when she had a heart valve replacement, and there were indications of problems in her lymph nodes. She received the biopsy results, and both came back negative for cancer! Thank God for his goodness!

6/27 – “A” sent thanks for the prayers for a family friend, who is at home recovering with the family and doing much better. “A” has an additional request for long-time friends (J and S) who are in the midst of intense family problems and requesting healing, peace, repentance, and restoration in the family.

7/2 – Publius asked for prayers for his 96 year old mother, who had emergency surgery when a massive hematoma on her leg ruptured, and they couldn’t stop the bleeding due to her being on blood thinners. Things were not looking good, but Publius posted later she received blood thinner reverser medication, and was fully conscious and alert after surgery.
7/10 Update – Publius’ mother was moved to a nursing home for post-acute therapy. At this point, she is very weak but is coming back physically. But her mind is in La La Land.
7/13 Update – Publius’ mother has experienced an absolute miracle. She has come back, fully conscious and cogent. The Lord Almighty has decided her time is not complete.

7/3 – San Franpsycho posted that Mrs. F. was admitted to the hospital from the ER visit, and asks for prayers for a complete and immediate recovery for her. She was conscious enough to phone him late last night, and it was a great relief that she was awake even for a short period. She continues with IV fluids and atb. Further steps and hopefully improvement await the results of lab tests. The caring concern shown by so many morons has been a great relief. Thank you.
7/5 Update – Mrs. F. remains hospitalized while being treated for salmonella poisoning. She has had some improvement, but is on Day 5 of not being able to keep down any nourishment.
7/11 Update – Mrs. F. came home on 7/7, and has finished her oral antibiotics. They are very grateful for the prayers for healing.

7/4 – Duke Lowell humbly asked for prayers for the nurses who will have to put up with him, when he goes in for (hopefully the last) surgery related to the events of last September.

7/4 – AH Lloyd requested prayers for his aunt, who was in a shattering collision on 6/29. She was hit by a semi at full speed through an intersection. She lost a lot of blood, but is out of ICU now.

7/4 – Random Dave posted the good news that the past week of interviews went very well. He also had a prayer request for his grand-niece, who has not been growing properly. She’s about 5 or 6. The growth plates are fine but has not grown in over a year. They have found an intestinal or bowel blockage and may need surgery.

7/4 – Dr. No sent his thanks for the prayer list and the Horde’s prayers that helped his daughter in her recoveries from (a) cancer and (b) knee replacement surgery. She’s doing fine now.

7/7 – Weak Geek asked for prayers for the survivors of RG and KG, a couple in their 90s who were pillars of their church for decades. They were knifed to death on 7/3 by their grandson. The entire congregation is stunned. Please pray for them too, and the pastor, trying to help deal with the tragedy.

7/11 – Mis Hum asked for prayers for Some Rat. He has some serious health issues at this time.

7/11 – Fen requested prayers for comfort and strength for “C” and her mother. “C” is in her 30s and her father died after a several months long struggle with cancer.

7/11 – P, a long time lurker would appreciate prayers. He says he should have asked for prayers last year, when his stage 4 prostate cancer was first diagnosed, but he was too busy freaking out. A year and nine months later, he is still on hormone therapy and his PSA spiked recently. It’s back up to 92. He is supposed to start a drug trial soon. He knows from experience that prayer helps, and would greatly appreciate if anyone could include him in their prayers.

7/13 – Captain Obvious posted that he could use some prayers, as he was experiencing some kind of cardiac arrhythmia.

7/15 – Captain JS’ daughter needs prayers for his/her daughter. Early on 7/15, she experienced complete heart failure. She is in the ICU on a heart/lung machine. They will operate to see what is happening. Captain JS sends thanks in advance for the prayers and has faith in their power.
7/15 Update – Thanks to all who responded to Captain JS’ request for prayers. The daughter is still unconscious but is still alive. The doctors suspect a blockage to the left side of her heart. They are planning to take pictures and then insert a stent.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.

2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

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1 ; )

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:52 AM (6wpGE)

2 Best wishes horde for s good day, and prayers up for all, especially those who asked!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:52 AM (r7+k8)

3 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 18, 2026 07:54 AM (2Ez/1)

4 from the Thursday ONT

291 153 -- She is gone. Too much time without oxygen to the brain. She never woke up once. You read about this happening, but you never even think it could happen to one of yours.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 16, 2026 11:36 PM (DK5Sh)

327 Right now I'm just scrolling, scrolling, scrolling to keep from thinking. Keep the comments coming so I can keep on scrolling. ( And, yes, that was a very weak joke about Rawhide.)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 16, 2026 11:52 PM (DK5Sh)

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:56 AM (6wpGE)

5 Yonder Horde

Drinking the last of my mug. Italian Roast. And a small slice of coffee cake.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 07:56 AM (jehhT)

6 Any update on Grammie?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:59 AM (MWfyi)

7
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 18, 2026 08:04 AM (AMvSw)

8 I slept in.

I missed the Tech News thead.

I am having first coffee.

G'morning Horde.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 08:05 AM (O7YUW)

9 I can not imagine what Captain Josepha Sabin is going through. Prayers up

Posted by: cicero skip at July 18, 2026 08:05 AM (p6dVP)

10 "I missed the Tech News thead."

The Z-80 is 50. The Z-28 is 60.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 08:09 AM (MWfyi)

11
We lost our Sonny last night to a stroke. He was almost 11, so a good age for a boy, but we're very sad today.

We've lost Finn, Val, Dan and now Sonny this year. Just Dot and Dutchess remain from their litter.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 08:12 AM (3pDH/)

12 Glory to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

St. Camillus of Lellis, patron of hospitals, pray for us.

May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen.

***

I have prayed Rosaries for the Horde's intentions, both stated and unstated.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2026 08:15 AM (ksbjf)

13 Good Saturday morning, horde.

Capt Josepha Sabina, my heart goes out to you, and I'm praying for comfort for you and your family.

Prayers up for all of the rest of you, those listed and those not.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 08:16 AM (h7ZuX)

14 Sniffs at door. Wags tail. Pet thread coming.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 08:20 AM (Kt19C)

15 Mornin' Horde. Prayers for Captain Josepha Sabin and family. No words for such a loss. Just sending hugs and love.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 08:20 AM (hPLSE)

16 @10/fd: "The Z-80 is 50. The Z-28 is 60."

Zilog and I both have significant experience at being 29. I had Z-80 processors in my TRS-80 Model III and IV computers.

Thank you for catching me up.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 08:21 AM (O7YUW)

17 Prayers up for those that have asked us for them in the prayer list;
Prayers up for those that know they need them but have not asked us for them;
Prayers up for those that need them but don’t know it yet; and
Prayers up for those who pray alone, asking for help in silence, and whose prayers are known but to God!

Prayers up even for all "our" politicians who have decided that their 10% graft and power are still far more desirable than their honor or integrity, may they see the error of their ways, repent, and become true representatives of we the people!

And lastly, prayers up for President Trump, keep him and our beloved country safe from harm, and may the many forces of corruption and evil arrayed against both him and our country be rendered ineffective and their plans come to naught!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:23 AM (hOUT3)

18 @11/Hadrian: So much loss in just a year, it breaks the heart.

Pray for the peace that passes all understanding. God will grant it.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 08:23 AM (O7YUW)

19 Heartfelt prayers for Captain Josepha Sabin and family and may God's grace get them through the days ahead!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:26 AM (hOUT3)

20 Send a salami to your boy in the army!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 08:26 AM (Kt19C)

21 Thank you, m, for adding the update regarding Josepha Sabin’s daughter.

Posted by: Annies Stew at July 18, 2026 08:31 AM (dNIAD)

22 We've lost Finn, Val, Dan and now Sonny this year. Just Dot and Dutchess remain from their litter.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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I'm so sorry to hear this. Hugs to you and Her Majesty.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 08:32 AM (hPLSE)

23 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:23 AM (hOUT3

Amen. Thank you!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 08:35 AM (Bw1/o)

24 I’d like to order some of that coffee. Bill me on delivery.

Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2026 08:35 AM (UYYJi)

25 may the many forces of corruption and evil arrayed against both him and our country be rendered ineffective and their plans come to naught!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:23 AM (hOUT3)

Amen.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 08:36 AM (h7ZuX)

26 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 08:12 AM (3pDH/)

I am sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 08:36 AM (Bw1/o)

27 I took Mom yesterday to the viewing for one of her last remaining high school friends. He was the father of my elementary school best friend.

He was a good man, great father, and had a life well lived. Godspeed, Mr. B.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 08:41 AM (h7ZuX)

28 ICYMI: the excellent graphic above is an interesting and entertaining mystery click. Go, ahead, click it. No... seriously click on it. Click it. NOW.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 08:42 AM (2Ez/1)

29 This is really a beautiful essay on a RC Cardinal from Estonia who sent more about 18 years in jail under the communists due to his witness to his faith. He is 94. I think it a lovely testimony to this devoted, courageous and humble man. You don't have to just be RC to appreciate this, because we who share the Christian faith are all striving to be remade in the image of Christ and holiness ( a lifelong journey)through the power of the Holy Spirit. From the "National Catholic Register":

I realize I just forget the link. I'll post it momentarily.



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 08:43 AM (zqeQL)

30 @FenelonSpoke:

A six foot piece of yarn, dragged slowly around a corner. The game is "Fishing for kitty."

If the kitten does not chase the end of the yarn, then the kitten must be asleep, otherwise a guaranteed response of "Must NOT let it get away!!" will take over kitty's entire being, and the chase-and-attack will commence.

This game is also useful for finding a hidden kitty. They will break deep cover to not let that yarn get away.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 08:44 AM (O7YUW)

31 Hadrian, I am still mourning the loss of my beloved Conor pup. I am so sorry for a massive loss such as yours!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:45 AM (hOUT3)

32 Link for post 29 on Cardinal Simoni

https://tinyurl.com/2hwst38z

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 08:45 AM (zqeQL)

33 Mrs. E and I would appreciate prayers for her infusion regimen. Looks like every month for the forseeable future.

Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2026 08:49 AM (UYYJi)

34 Hadrian, I am still mourning the loss of my beloved Conor pup. I am so sorry for a massive loss such as yours!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
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Dear Hrothgar - I didn't know you'd lost Conor. I'm so sorry!

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 08:50 AM (hPLSE)

35 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 08:44 AM (O7YUW)

Thanks. We've been playing that . It's so much fun.
He also likes to hang out by the stair banisters and reach out through them towards me. I call this game "Lions and Christians." 😉

I do have to keep reminding him "I'm not a kitten, so no bites and no scratches". He's a smart little guy and I think will pick that up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 08:50 AM (zqeQL)

36 Fen, I really enjoy hearing about your new kitten. They are exasperating and delightful.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 08:53 AM (hPLSE)

37 And today on our walk we saw two bull thistles" with the lovely purple head. a large black and orange butterfly and a tiny plant called "Indian tobacco.". I'll post about that in a moment . I found it interesting anyway.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 08:53 AM (zqeQL)

38 34
SiD, Thanks!
I haven't spoken about it much but it still troubles me especially in the mornings!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:54 AM (hOUT3)

39 Mrs. E and I would appreciate prayers for her infusion regimen. Looks like every month for the forseeable future.
Posted by: Eromero
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You got it. Love and big hugs to both of you.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 08:54 AM (hPLSE)

40 Morning again, caffeinators,

Two pages and a bit more are done, and as Papa Hemingway advised, I stopped in the middle of a scene and a sentence, ready to pick up later. It's building to the big action scene, so I *really* want to go on with it, and I might.

Shave a shower first, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 08:55 AM (wzUl9)

41 Yo Eromero, prayers up for you and the lovely Mrs E.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:57 AM (hOUT3)

42 He also likes to hang out by the stair banisters and reach out through them towards me. I call this game "Lions and Christians." 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 08:50 AM (zqeQL)

LOL, I love that!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 08:58 AM (h7ZuX)

43 I’d like to order some of that coffee. Bill me on delivery.
Posted by: Eromero at July 18, 2026 08:35 AM (UYYJi)

The total comes to $39,642,128, 739.22

Posted by: AWS Billing Console (Tech Thread) at July 18, 2026 08:58 AM (wVcYX)

44 Prayers have been offered for everyone here.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:00 AM (qFwJc)

45 Just saw a picture on HA that’s darkly comic. When Trump leaned of the Iranian assassination plot against him at Ankara, it appears to have affected him deeply, and changed his mind about trying to make some kind of deal. Some people have suggested that this was just an Israeli intelligence plot to get under his skin.

However, there is some hard evidence giving the story credence; such as the residential tower in Iran on which the Iranian government has hung a bright red 7 story long banner, with words proclaiming in English: “WE WILL KILL TRUMP”.

Not to mention the large crowds at Dear Leader’s funeral that were chanting and singing “we will kill Trump!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 09:01 AM (AnnNE)

46 MisHum … Thanx for the post. ’Preciate dat …
(Dr_No)

Posted by: Dr_No at July 18, 2026 09:01 AM (ayRl+)

47 Good morning, all! Will pray for intentions both listed and unlisted.

I have been praying the Surrender Novena this week... it might be starting to take a little. I can reason in my mind that God is God and I am not, therefore it is foolish to worry and feel anxiety about things that are clearly in His control. Yet I struggle to feel peace in my heart even as my mind understands that He is the source of all goodness.

Yeesh.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 18, 2026 09:02 AM (kOluj)

48 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.  As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, forever.  Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.  Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.  Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:02 AM (ZOv7s)

49 Tony Indian Tobacco plant and its medicinal properties. FenSpouse has a free ap on his phone which will identify plants you don't know. It's called
"PictureThis" .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:03 AM (jt/rW)

50 Good morning to all!

Posted by: muldoon at July 18, 2026 09:03 AM (I0N4X)

51 I don't know which Horde member said, "If I could MAKE the coffee in the morning, I wouldn't NEED the coffee in the morning.

But I salute him/her.

Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 09:04 AM (u84c/)

52 Good morning Horde, I wish that I could give you all hugs in addition to sending my prayers. I am so sorry to hear that Hadrian and Hrothgar have lost their four legged friends.

Captain Josepha, continued prayers for you and your whole family at such a sad time.

Prayers also for Eromero and his lovely Mrs.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 18, 2026 09:05 AM (ibDUx)

53 woohoo! coffee!

*runs with empty mug*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 18, 2026 09:06 AM (VyBeY)

54 49 This is the link for the tiny tabacco plant and its medicinal properties:

https://tinyurl.com/4px8skj2

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:06 AM (jt/rW)

55 Lord , be a comfort to Josepha and Hadrian and their families, and all suffering the loss of loved ones. Bring health to the sick especially those facing cancer in all its vile forms. Lord, bring news of gainful employment in the coming weeks to those seeking it, especially Random Dave. Father, let your will be done for all intentions posted here, or held in our hearts. In Jesus's Name. Amen.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 18, 2026 09:06 AM (yZ8FX)

56 51 I don't know which Horde member said, "If I could MAKE the coffee in the morning, I wouldn't NEED the coffee in the morning.

But I salute him/her.
Posted by: Wenda at July 18, 2026 09:04 AM (u84c/)

More than once, I have forgotten either the coffee grounds or the water, or the BREW button.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 09:07 AM (h7ZuX)

57 Fen, ever hear of a guy by the name of Chesty Puller?

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2026/07/10/vitamin-chesty-puller/

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:07 AM (qFwJc)

58 Oh, JS - so sorry to hear about your daughter. Difficult days ahead, but you WILL get through them. Gentle hugs from here - if you want to talk to someone who has BTDT, please don't hesitate to contact me 💔💔💔

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at July 18, 2026 09:08 AM (oINnM)

59 Amen!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2026 09:08 AM (wVcYX)

60 Our God is wonderful. He gives life to the dead and restores lost fortunes.

Keep the faith!

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:08 AM (qFwJc)

61
Just saw a picture on HA that’s darkly comic. When Trump leaned of the Iranian assassination plot against him at Ankara, it appears to have affected him deeply, and changed his mind about trying to make some kind of deal. Some people have suggested that this was just an Israeli intelligence plot to get under his skin.

However, there is some hard evidence giving the story credence; such as the residential tower in Iran on which the Iranian government has hung a bright red 7 story long banner, with words proclaiming in English: “WE WILL KILL TRUMP”.

Not to mention the large crowds at Dear Leader’s funeral that were chanting and singing “we will kill Trump!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 09:01 AM (AnnNE)


Meh.

And while I'm here...Stop calling me Salmon! Like I'm your Friday night dinner!!!

Posted by: Pre-Zombie Salman Rushdie at July 18, 2026 09:09 AM (iJfKG)

62 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 18, 2026 08:26 AM (hOUT3)

Amen!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:10 AM (jt/rW)

63 @35/FenelonSpoke: "I do have to keep reminding him "I'm not a kitten, so no bites and no scratches". He's a smart little guy and I think will pick that up."

Pick kitty up by the scruff of neck. Instant "Oh, that's momma" response where they go limp and stop misbehaving. Doesn't hurt 'em either, they're designed that way.

"Lions and Christians": *snorts* That's awesome, I love that.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 09:11 AM (O7YUW)

64 We have a pile of good news at Chateau Lloyd. My aunt is doing very well, and she chats with my father regularly and he describes her as laughing a lot. She is doing physical therapy and will be back home soon. I've offered to drive my father up to visit her.

While my wife hasn't gotten the results of her second breast cancer biopsy back, the family as a whole have pulled together in a wonderful way, healing all the previous injuries I've discussed over the years. A new sense of love and unity has filled our home, particularly with my oldest, who has now committed to working with me (rather than against me!) to make our home more comfortable, clean and pleasant.

To that end I'm taking the youngest down to see my father today to do a survey of furniture and things to see what we can use to organize stuff, and also to pick up donations. My youngest will get some driving practice in as well, and will soon get her license and get out into the world.

THANK YOU for all your prayers, they are working and please keep Mrs. Lloyd in mind as she grapples with the uncertainty regarding her cancer and treatment. This is a very tough time for her.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:11 AM (ZOv7s)

65 11 ... Hadrian,
So sorry to hear about losing Sonny. What a hard year. We know that heartbreak and are praying for you and Her Majesty. Cuddle Dot and Duchess and remember the joy from their siblings.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 09:12 AM (yTvNw)

66 I went outside just now and God be praised, the smoke was gone! I could see to the end of the street and breathe the air. The birds are back, and people are moving around again.

Canada delenda est!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:12 AM (ZOv7s)

67 A good wind from the West is very beneficial.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:15 AM (qFwJc)

68 Mornin', Horde. Prayers up for all of the Horde and those Horde-adjacent.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2026 09:17 AM (Wnv9h)

69 And while I'm here...Stop calling me Salmon! Like I'm your Friday night dinner!!!
Posted by: Pre-Zombie Salman Rushdie at July 18, 2026 09:09 AM (iJfKG)

It’s Salbass, Jerry. He just exchanged one fish for another! — Kramer trying to convince everyone Salman Rushdie works out at his club

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2026 09:17 AM (ALKK0)

70 Any one out there care where their coffee beans come from? I seem to like them all and can't say I prefer one much over the other.
Circle K has great coffee.
Hope everyone gets rain who needs it and not where it isn't.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at July 18, 2026 09:17 AM (DIS3S)

71 >Canada delenda est!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:12 AM (ZOv7s)

Atmosphere is still full of smoke and haze from Canukistan here in SE PA. Was planning on running this morning - but don't feel like breathing the equivalent of 2 packs of Marlboro reds. Perhaps tomorrow.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 09:18 AM (GTqXr)

72 A good wind from the West is very beneficial.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:15 AM (qFwJc)

A Mighty Wind, even.



No, wasn't referencing you, Chuck Schumer! Go away!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2026 09:18 AM (wVcYX)

73 Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:07 AM (qFwJc)

Thanks. I have heard of him. I am not a big fan of Ann Barnhardt only because I am impatient with her whining about "Catholics are the only true Christians." I have not read her for years . As far as Christy Puller, I agree with him that there is a war around us. This one is a spiritual war. I am happy when anyone gets closer to Christ and as I have noted numerous times, as Ben Franklin said about Americans in the revolution "We all must hang together or more assuredly we will all hang separately" Same goes for various Christian. None of us wants to become Muslim.

This is not a knock on you and I hope you didn't read it that way, brother


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:20 AM (jt/rW)

74 Atmosphere is still full of smoke and haze from Canukistan here in SE PA. Was planning on running this morning - but don't feel like breathing the equivalent of 2 packs of Marlboro reds. Perhaps tomorrow.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 09:18 AM (GTqXr)
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It's mostly cleared off here. AQI was 300 yesterday evening, 73 now.

I'll say this for the Canucks - they actually bridged the partisan divide in Michigan. EVERYONE hates them.

If the combined National Guards of all the affected states mobilized, we'd be in Ottawa in 72 hours.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)

75 I would like to ask prayers for K, who is having a hard time with depression and lacks self worth. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:22 AM (jt/rW)

76 I'll say this for the Canucks - they actually bridged the partisan divide in Michigan. EVERYONE hates them.

===

hahahah!!

Posted by: runner at July 18, 2026 09:24 AM (GD0B3)

77 British Open golf. I’m pulling for American Bryson Dechambeau who IMO got a raw deal from rules officials with a 2 stroke penalty yesterday. Improving his lie, my ass… he was in the long wispy grass where just to address your ball you have to step on the grass. It’s been a problem in golf for a long time; stodgy unimaginative slavish devotion to stupid rules somehow interpreted as virtue…. Sheesh would feel satisfying if he won. Also in the same week where another old British codger Nick Faldo blasted him out of the blue for no reason. Uh Nick… when you can hit the ball 350+ yards that is a strategy all by itself

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2026 09:24 AM (ALKK0)

78 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 18, 2026 09:25 AM (nT/TX)

79 Oh Fen, yes Ann Barnhardt is "way out there." I check out her site weekly to see what outrageous thing she notices. She is a convert to RC and doesn't like what she sees in the Vatican. Neither do I.

But the Chesty Puller article is interesting.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:25 AM (qFwJc)

80 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 09:11 AM (O7YUW)

Thanks. I hadn't thought of that. I will try that . Right now he's sacked out on a pillow by the window all stretched out with his paws ( including the front ones with five toes) all stretched out and on his back in the " I surrender" pose.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:26 AM (jt/rW)

81 Many prayers for comfort and peace during this difficult time have been offered up from here for Captain Josepha Sabins family.
What a heartbreaking loss for their family.

There really are no words.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 09:27 AM (4VH0B)

82 Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:25 AM (qFwJc)

Yes. I hadn't seen but one ( the first one) picture of him and the article was interesting .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM (jt/rW)

83 They called me Maria.

Posted by: The wind at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM (2Ez/1)

84 Oh Fen, yes Ann Barnhardt is "way out there." I check out her site weekly to see what outrageous thing she notices. She is a convert to RC and doesn't like what she sees in the Vatican. Neither do I.

But the Chesty Puller article is interesting.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:25 AM (qFwJc)
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Catholic converts are the absolute worst!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

85 More than once, I have forgotten either the coffee grounds or the water, or the BREW button
——

It’s a kind of cognitive skills test, hampered or magnified by the fact the substance itself is often necessary to get the brain to boot up, and become fully ambulatory.

I ran a full pot of water through a Mr. Coffee one morning, minus the Coffee itself. I came to the kitchen to see a nice clear carafe of hot water. Doh! Let’s try this again. Attention to detail, people

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM (GbFT6)

86 I am so sorry to hear the news about that lovely young lady. Prayers are with Captain JS and his family

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 18, 2026 09:30 AM (j+aD2)

87 Circle K has great coffee.
Hope everyone gets rain who needs it and not where it isn't.
Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at July 18, 2026 09:17 AM (DIS3S)

Inspector worked at Circle K decades ago. At the time they took the coffee *very* seriously. You could get fired if it wasn't kept fresh.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2026 09:31 AM (lFFaq)

88 I ran a full pot of water through a Mr. Coffee one morning, minus the Coffee itself. I came to the kitchen to see a nice clear carafe of hot water. Doh! Let’s try this again. Attention to detail, people


it's like an extra cleaning cycle!

I can't even look at my DeLonghi first thing in the morning. I will DEFINITELY screw something up.

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 18, 2026 09:31 AM (j+aD2)

89 I ran a full pot of water through a Mr. Coffee one morning, minus the Coffee itself. I came to the kitchen to see a nice clear carafe of hot water. Doh! Let’s try this again. Attention to detail, people
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM (GbFT6)

Exactly. Words cannot express the depth of disappointment in that situation.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 09:31 AM (h7ZuX)

90 Good morning all
Coming here on Saturday morning sure puts life in perspective. Every day a blessing.
Healing hugs to all in pain whether physical,or emotional. Wish I could do it in person.
Air here yesterday was horrible. Smelled like diesel fumes. Did it venture outside. 275 at the height, noe down to 175. Still afraid to open the door.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2026 09:32 AM (kJmSS)

91 I ran a full pot of water through a Mr. Coffee one morning, minus the Coffee itself. I came to the kitchen to see a nice clear carafe of hot water. Doh! Let’s try this again. Attention to detail, people
Posted by: Common Tater
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I used to program the coffee maker so it would be ready when I got up. Once I neglected to position the carafe properly on its base. Woke up to coffee all over the counter and floor.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 09:32 AM (hPLSE)

92 Inspector worked at Circle K decades ago. At the time they took the coffee *very* seriously. You could get fired if it wasn't kept fresh.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2026 09:31 AM (lFFaq)

How's he doing, Polliwog? Still in my prayers.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 09:33 AM (h7ZuX)

93 Exactly. Words cannot express the depth of disappointment in that situation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 09:31 AM (h7ZuX)
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Load Keurig, insert pod, forget coffee cup.

Oops.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:33 AM (ZOv7s)

94 Chesty Puller was quite a guy. In Korea, his Marine unit was getting shelled badly by enemy artillery. He noticed a Navy ship sailing right off the coast but had no way of communicating with them. He took a rowboat out to the ship and started directing the ships guns where they needed to go. That’s pretty hooah. He was probably not a fan of always going through the proper channels necessarily.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 09:34 AM (GbFT6)

95 I must be strange. Never have drunk coffee… but I do enjoy my preferred caffeine delivery system: Diet Coke… even in the morning!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2026 09:34 AM (TqDYN)

96 Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 09:27 AM (4VH0B

Amen! And nice to see you, TT.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:34 AM (ceTyQ)

97 21 Thank you, m, for adding the update regarding Josepha Sabin’s daughter.
Posted by: Annies Stew at July 18, 2026 08:31 AM (dNIAD)

You're welcome, Annie's Stew. Thank you for all that you do!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 09:35 AM (6wpGE)

98 Air here yesterday was horrible. Smelled like diesel fumes. Did it venture outside. 275 at the height, noe down to 175. Still afraid to open the door.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2026 09:32 AM (kJmSS)
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We hit 400 around here at one point. Stayed in the 300s all yesterday. Everything went into hiding. Canada is asshoe.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:36 AM (ZOv7s)

99 Blue Angel 3, Lt. Chris Houben, opened up about that low pass on Wednesday. He says he miscalculated the turn which allowed his jet to drift over the beach line.

He didn't fly the practice show at Pensacola Beach yesterday. Not sure he'll be in the air for today's actual show out there, either.

We'll see.

I wouldn't be surprised if he tendered his resignation from the team over it.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 09:36 AM (J4Dwc)

100 100

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 09:36 AM (6wpGE)

101 275 what?
Degrees Kelvin?

Posted by: I'll ask at July 18, 2026 09:38 AM (2Ez/1)

102 I must be strange. Never have drunk coffee… but I do enjoy my preferred caffeine delivery system: Diet Coke… even in the morning!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2026 09:34 AM (TqDYN)
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I loved the smell of coffee growing up, hated the taste.

In the morning I just had juice, later on a Coke. I didn't drink coffee until I got married, and I'm still generally indifferent to it.

Like Lt. Col. Alexander Jefferson of the Tuskeegee Airmen, I used have coffee with my cream and sugar, but since the diabeetus rolled in, I now use artificial sweetener and heavy whipping cream, and I rather enjoy it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:38 AM (ZOv7s)

103 Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 09:33 AM (h7ZuX)

Getting stronger, just much slower than he'd like. His job has been working with him to reduce his hours but not hit his pay any more than is absolutely necessary, which is a major blessing. Seeing *all* the doctors since they still have no idea what the underlying cause is.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 18, 2026 09:39 AM (lFFaq)

104 Blame Canada, blame Canada
They're not.even a real country anyway

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 09:39 AM (WWhYv)

105 Load Keurig, insert pod, forget coffee cup.

Oops.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:33 AM (ZOv7s)

Imagine the trouble we'd have if we were trying to make fancy coffee!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 09:39 AM (h7ZuX)

106 Hadrian, you spend so much time and energy taking care of all your dogs, each loss must be difficult in its own way. I know when our pets pass they leave such a hole in our days, it must be worse for you.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 09:40 AM (4VH0B)

107 I wouldn't be surprised if he tendered his resignation from the team over it.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 09:36 AM (J4Dwc)
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I hope he stays. The zero-tolerance mentality is for losers. Everyone screws up. Learn from it, drive on.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)

108 My Mr Coffee can't run pure water. It.splashes onto the counter.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 09:40 AM (WWhYv)

109 Imagine the trouble we'd have if we were trying to make fancy coffee!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 09:39 AM (h7ZuX)
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I wouldn't even notice. My wife and kids love fancy coffees, but they are wasted on me.

My father drinks it black in large quantities.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:41 AM (ZOv7s)

110 Has Houben considered getting into crop dustin'?

Posted by: Dennis Quaid at July 18, 2026 09:41 AM (WWhYv)

111 Thank you all for admitting your various coffee-making mishaps. I now feel more Moron than moron.

*cues White Zombie music*

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 18, 2026 09:43 AM (kOluj)

112 108 My Mr Coffee can't run pure water. It.splashes onto the counter.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 09:40 AM
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Try using the muddy water from the ruts in the dirt road after it rains.

Posted by: Cousin Eddie at July 18, 2026 09:43 AM (2Ez/1)

113 I ran a full pot of water through a Mr. Coffee one morning, minus the Coffee itself.

There is a relatively small number of ways to screw up using Mr. Coffee and I've done almost all of them.

- unplugged: check
- forget to push the one, big, red button: check
- no water: check
- no coffee: check
- unground coffee beans: check
- no filter: half check. I caught it before turning it on. Yay me
- no pot: uncheck

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 09:43 AM (vTZFs)

114 Very light day at the studio, everyone is headed to Pensacola. Latte made, now to read comments and focus on prayers for all.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 09:43 AM (Dd38x)

115 I ran a full pot of water through a Mr. Coffee one morning, minus the Coffee itself. I came to the kitchen to see a nice clear carafe of hot water. Doh! Let’s try this again. Attention to detail, people
Posted by: Common Tater


I once did the same, except the missing item was the pot beneath the drip.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 18, 2026 09:44 AM (0U5gm)

116 Screaming in Digital, I hope you are still here. I wanted to thank you for the comment you made last week about all your house troubles and Psalm 112. What you said struck a chord in my heart, and meditating on this Psalm has been helpful. Thank you for sharing.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 09:44 AM (4VH0B)

117 Blue Angel 3, Lt. Chris Houben, opened up about that low pass on Wednesday. He says he miscalculated the turn which allowed his jet to drift over the beach line.

[ ... ]

I wouldn't be surprised if he tendered his resignation from the team over it.


Well, that kinda sucks but when your job description is "Best of the Best," you don't get to call mulligans.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 09:47 AM (vTZFs)

118 I once put my coffee mug on the Keurig upside down and ran it. Thought it had overflowed when there was coffee all over the counter.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 09:48 AM (jehhT)

119 Well, that kinda sucks but when your job description is "Best of the Best," you don't get to call mulligans.

Right. Many years back, Dave Koss voluntarily resigned as Boss after inadvertently leading the team a bit below the minimum hard deck for a maneuver. It's called holding oneself to account for performance below acceptable standards.

And acceptable standards of a BA's performance is higher than that of a typical fleet pilot.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 09:49 AM (J4Dwc)

120 93 Load Keurig, insert pod, forget coffee cup.
Oops.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:33 AM (ZOv7s)

I misread this as "Lord Keurig, insert pod, forget coffee cup"!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 09:51 AM (6wpGE)

121 Well, that kinda sucks but when your job description is "Best of the Best," you don't get to call mulligans.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 09:47 AM (vTZFs)
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Most legendary commanders had an epic screw-up in their past. Some more than one. If you demand perfection, you eliminate risk-takers and that's how we got GWOT mediocrities running the show.

People who always stay within the lines, always err on the side of caution become beautiful losers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

122 I once put my coffee mug on the Keurig upside down and ran it. Thought it had overflowed when there was coffee all over the counter.

I once walked into the office and saw that someone had started the Keurig without a cup. I put a paper cup in place and wiped up the spill. The guy (an exec-type, of course) came back several minutes later, looked into the half-empty cup and wondered what the hell happened. Really, people. It takes like one minute to make coffee. Just stay there. Your time may be important but it's not that important.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 09:52 AM (vTZFs)

123 >It's called holding oneself to account

So it is, and not "held accountable". THANK YOU

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 09:52 AM (e/Apr)

124 Stovetop percolator - gas stove in the summer, wood stove in the winter. Tried the old 'lectric percolator yesterday, but the taste just wasn't right, and I had to run the generator for 20 minutes as the sun wasn't hittin' the panels just yet.

May God richly bless all of you and yours.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 18, 2026 09:53 AM (JWDez)

125 People who always stay within the lines, always err on the side of caution become beautiful losers.

And when civilian lives are on the other side of the line, the place to push it is on the practice field, not the performance field.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 09:54 AM (vTZFs)

126 Catholic converts are the absolute worst!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

Not what I said. I suggested people who have to say towards Protestants who all believe in the Lord Jesus Christ , God in the flesh crucified and risen and coming again " : You're all a bunch of heretics
Doomed to Hell fire " Protestants can be equally or more annoying towards Catholics. As far as I'm concerned it's a waste of time and breath and these kinds of arguments are a tool of Satan to divide us . Do I have to agree with all views of various toward others of the Christian faith? What is your bottom line? "Do you believe in Your heart and confess with your lips that Jesus is Lod and God raised him from the dead" If so, they give me your hand.

That is all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:54 AM (/MJ/r)

127 Jesus is "Lord".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:55 AM (Qw3Dr)

128 Our God is wonderful. He gives life to the dead and restores lost fortunes.

Keep the faith!

Posted by: no one of any consequence


This is so true. And when we can't keep the faith because we are tired and worn through, God keeps us. Ps 91, Ps 139

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 09:55 AM (4VH0B)

129 Speaking of coffee...Brazilian elections are in the fall - early October. Go Flavio!!!

Posted by: runner at July 18, 2026 09:55 AM (GD0B3)

130 If Mrs. PabloD loads the coffee maker before bed, I always double check to make sure there's actually water, coffee, and a properly-seated carafe in place. I don't like waking up to a pot of hot water, a pot of nothing, or - in one case - a completely ruined machine.

Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2026 09:56 AM (5Ide7)

131 72 A good wind from the West is very beneficial.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:15 AM (qFwJc)

A Mighty Wind, even.



No, wasn't referencing you, Chuck Schumer! Go away!
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2026 09:18 AM


* preens *

You can't get much farther west than California. Nor much more mightier.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at July 18, 2026 09:56 AM (0sNs1)

132 Four wildfire smoke conditions:

- Dense smoke blowing down your street/town.
- Smoke not so dense but your local world is like living inside an illuminated pingpong ball.
- Orange day(s).
- A cooling, early morning, katabatic breeze drives the stench of post-fire creosote into town. That odor makes me gag/ill.

Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2026 09:56 AM (fnZRl)

133 from the ruts in the dirt road after it rains.
The old dirt road?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 09:57 AM (Kt19C)

134 After what happened to the guys that flew over a beach with helicopters, I doubt the guys in jets will get into any trouble. The beachgoers loved it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:57 AM (qFwJc)

135 The fewer Socialist retards in this hemisphere the better...

Posted by: runner at July 18, 2026 09:58 AM (GD0B3)

136 "You can't get much farther west than California. Nor much more mightier."

Yeah, but the desert southwest and the Rockies have a purifying effect.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:58 AM (qFwJc)

137 Catholic converts are the absolute worst!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM


I thought you were on-record as saying .41 Magnum aficionados are the absolute worst?

Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at July 18, 2026 09:59 AM (0sNs1)

138 "Most legendary commanders had an epic screw-up in their past. Some more than one."
++++
The movie Young Washington illustrates that very well. Good movie. Go see it.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 09:59 AM (2Ez/1)

139 People who always stay within the lines, always err on the side of caution become beautiful losers.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

***
Concur.

*sips BRCC Fit Fuel*

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 09:59 AM (2WIwB)

140 It was a Bunn, come to think of it. Mr. Coffee style.

Joe DiMaggio was the spokesman for them when they debuted. They were really popular.

I sort of liked the early morning languid snorting and sighing of the percolator. My parents bought a combination set of Avocado green GE toaster, coffee percolator, and electric can opener/knife sharpener/kitty attractor. I used the latter till just a couple years ago.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:00 AM (GbFT6)

141 Drinking coffee with my hubby and waiting for the steak and eggs.. i like this diner.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2026 10:00 AM (oJGBf)

142 Fen, A. H. Lloyd was making the small joke. IIRC, he is a convert.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 10:00 AM (qFwJc)

143 Headline (Newsweek):

"Donald Trump scores legal victory in major mail-in voting change"

Excerpt:

"A federal appeals court has handed President Donald Trump a significant legal victory, clearing the way—at least temporarily—for a controversial proposal that could reshape how mail-in ballots are handled across the United States.

A federal appeals court on July 17 paused a lower court ruling and allowed the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) to continue advancing a Trump-backed mail voting rule while litigation continues."

Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2026 10:01 AM (rj6Yv)

144 do have to keep reminding him "I'm not a kitten, so no bites and no scratches". He's a smart little guy and I think will pick that up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Mine is entering his sixteenth year and hasn't figured this out yet. Ok if I read him this to show him how stupid he is?

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 10:02 AM (sl73Y)

145 After what happened to the guys that flew over a beach with helicopters, I doubt the guys in jets will get into any trouble. The beachgoers loved it.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 09:57 AM (qFwJc)


I for one am bored with all these flyovers.
Ppppfffttt!!! I say.
Now. Run a battalion of tanks down that beach. There! That would be exciting!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 10:02 AM (2WIwB)

146 Katabatic Breeze was the name of the house band at the Copacabana.

Posted by: Lola the showgirl at July 18, 2026 10:02 AM (2Ez/1)

147 My painting for the prayer thread in my nic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:03 AM (/WQyy)

148 early morning languid snorting and sighing of the percolator
_-_
I woke to that sound most of my younger days. I got Mom's old percolator out because it is so hot here - reminiscing a bit hearing it.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 18, 2026 10:04 AM (JWDez)

149 What you said struck a chord in my heart, and meditating on this Psalm has been helpful. Thank you for sharing.
Posted by: TecumsehTea
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I just stopped back in for a minute before heading out to mow. It's always lovely to see you, and this made my day. I hope you & Mr Tea are well!

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 10:04 AM (hPLSE)

150 I found one of those humongous West Bend “church coffee” makers in their attic. Makes wretched coffee, redolent of bitter, aluminum. Blech. Let it cook for several hours to get the full effect

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:04 AM (GbFT6)

151 126 Catholic converts are the absolute worst!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

Not what I said.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 09:54 AM (/MJ/r)

*ahem

Knowing A. H. Lloyd, he was being self-deprecatingly funny.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 18, 2026 10:05 AM (h7ZuX)

152 Know what else causes early morning languid snorting and sighing?

Posted by: IYKWIM at July 18, 2026 10:05 AM (2Ez/1)

153 Drinking coffee with my hubby and waiting for the steak and eggs.. i like this diner.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2026 10:00 AM


A good local diner breakfast is one of life's treats.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2026 10:06 AM (Wnv9h)

154 Good morning
Have an awesome weekend.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 18, 2026 10:06 AM (2RJDy)

155 Know what else causes early morning languid snorting and sighing?
Flatulence.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 10:08 AM (Kt19C)

156 141 Drinking coffee with my hubby and waiting for the steak and eggs.. i like this diner.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2026 10:00 AM (oJGBf)

What a great outing!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 10:08 AM (6wpGE)

157 “The flyovers will continue until Morale improves”

I read Hegseth said this. I hope it’s true. Lie to me if you must.

I can say from experience that the UH-60 Black Hawk is a dandy device for un-erecting GP medium tents, camouflage netting, and tossing porta potties around helter skelter. Oops. I had no idea paperwork can be strewn around that high in the air either.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:08 AM (GbFT6)

158 Know what else causes early morning languid snorting and sighing?
Posted by: IYKWIM at July 18, 2026 10:05 AM


Yep.

Posted by: Graham Platner, sitting in a Porta-Potty at July 18, 2026 10:08 AM (0sNs1)

159 Stinger: Maverick, you just did an incredibly brave thing. What you should have done was land your plane! You don't own that plane, the tax payers do! Son, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash. You've been busted, you lost your qualifications as section leader three times, put in hack twice by me, with a history of high speed passes over five air control towers, and one admiral's daughter!

Goose: Penny Benjamin?
[Maverick shrugs]

Stinger: And you asshole, you're lucky to be here!

Goose: Thank you, sir.

Posted by: I Feel The Need . . . The Need For Speed at July 18, 2026 10:09 AM (wVcYX)

160 It's not quite as smoky as yesterday, but the air quality in southern Oregon is still not great. I think I'll stay indoors most of the weekend and read the rule books for a new game I recently acquired.

Posted by: PabloD at July 18, 2026 10:11 AM (5Ide7)

161 >>I doubt the guys in jets will get into any trouble.

It was just one jet and one pilot. He's been grounded pending review of the incident, which is standard procedure throughout naval aviation, not just the Blues.

I believe it was CNATRA -- a two-star, I think, who initiated the review.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 10:12 AM (J4Dwc)

162 My painting for the prayer thread in my nic.
Posted by: polynikes
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I love your work. Especially the landscapes. Thank you for sharing with us.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 10:13 AM (hPLSE)

163 147 ... polynikes,
That painting is simply wonderful. Every element, the dynamic stylized cross, praying figures in silhouette, and that varied, brilliant sky, all work together. They combine to reinforce the concept of love and mercy and the power of prayer.

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 10:14 AM (yTvNw)

164 Stinger: Maverick, you just did an incredibly brave thing.

Anybody who joined the Navy because of that movie should have been assigned deck swabbing duties until he realized that he wasn't going to get to shag Nicole Kidman either.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 10:15 AM (vTZFs)

165 I am fully caffeinated and the lawn mower is calling. Have a great day, Horde.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2026 10:15 AM (hPLSE)

166 Ask your doctor if CNATRA is right for you.
Side effects include vomiting, diarrhea, fever, night sweats, and early morning languid snorting and sighing.

Posted by: Big Fizer at July 18, 2026 10:16 AM (2Ez/1)

167 Mornin' Horde. Black dog barkin' lately as he does when things get hard. Housing plan failed. Trying to find a better paying job I fit with has been frustrating. Same old same old, I guess.

Started asking the Lord not for relief, but release. Probably not a good sign.

Hope y'all are doing better than I.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 18, 2026 10:17 AM (mQbp+)

168 Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 10:14 AM (yTvNw)

Thanks. I usually don't explain what I was going for as it's the viewer's interpretation but in this one I was trying to show the darkness turning to light through prayer with the dark foreboding sky at top and then the bright light coming through toward the people praying.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:17 AM (/WQyy)

169 I thought you were on-record as saying .41 Magnum aficionados are the absolute worst?
Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at July 18, 2026 09:59 AM (0sNs1)
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No, they're the best. Just ask them!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

170 147 My painting for the prayer thread in my nic.
Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:03 AM (/WQyy)

Very nice!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 10:18 AM (6wpGE)

171 May your blade be sharp, straight, and balanced! Cutting turf is satisfying for some strange reason, leaving a pleasing appearance, in a striped pattern.

I’m told on good authority these days lawn care makes me a Nazi, so maybe I’ll check out that Horst Vessel tune later on today on the YouTube?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:19 AM (GbFT6)

172 We are headed to granddaughter's string ensemble shortly, so I'll have to finish all the comments later.

Just wanted to offer a praise -- Thursday we celebrated 49 years of marriage. 49 years of God's grace, mercy and blessing on two young people who had no idea what they were doing, but thought they did. God is good, through the good and the bad.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 18, 2026 10:20 AM (4VH0B)

173 113 There is a relatively small number of ways to screw up using Mr. Coffee and I've done almost all of them.

- unplugged: check
- forget to push the one, big, red button: check
- no water: check
- no coffee: check
- unground coffee beans: check
- no filter: half check. I caught it before turning it on. Yay me
- no pot: uncheck
Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 09:43 AM (vTZFs)

115 I once did the same, except the missing item was the pot beneath the drip.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 18, 2026 09:44 AM (0U5gm)

Have you two met?

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 10:20 AM (6wpGE)

174 A Vollmacht is a German legal document enabling someone to watch Tarzan movies (or gladiator movies).

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 10:21 AM (Kt19C)

175 Tom Cruise is by all accounts a very strange dude (just as batty as L Ron Hubbard) but I can’t think of a single bad movie he’s ever made. The guy is very good at making entertaining movies… he’s made a large number… some of my favorites like A Few Good Men (BTW… in that movie the Nicholson character was the good guy and cruise the bad guy… many would probably disagree with that take but I firmly believe it)…. The guy on the wall is much more important than snotty lawyer

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2026 10:21 AM (2mApq)

176 Rep. Summer Lee Admits She Wants More Black Doctors, Even If They're Unqualified

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Wait. I thought it Rep. Summer's Eve.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:21 AM (ndZc7)

177
I for one am bored with all these flyovers.
Ppppfffttt!!! I say.
Now. Run a battalion of tanks down that beach. There! That would be exciting!
Posted by: Diogenes

Abrams on speed runs, nice firm wet beach sand makes it a smoother ride too. Would pay money to watch that.

Loved watching 3rd herd train on those ling straight tank trails out at McGregor Range when they turned in their M60s and were issued M1s.

I love the smell of burnt jp8 in the morning.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 18, 2026 10:22 AM (QVmho)

178 When we lived in Monterey, CA my wife was working for the Naval Postgrad School. It's near the Monterey airport. When the USAF Thunderbirds were in town for a show they'd buzz the admin building at the Postgrad School. You could stand on the roof and when one of the F-16's would pass overhead you'd swear you could touch it. They were that low. And loud.

The Blue Angles had to sortie out of the airport in Salinas. Something about the F-18's made landing or taking off from Monterey a no-go.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 10:22 AM (jehhT)

179 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2026 10:21 AM (2mApq)

I think 99% of the people here have that position though with a few caveats.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:23 AM (/WQyy)

180
And when civilian lives are on the other side of the line, the place to push it is on the practice field, not the performance field.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 09:54 AM (vTZFs)
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Every time a military aircraft takes off, civilians can die. It's in the job the description.

The question is how do you handle an honest mistake that inflicted no loss. Quitting does not solve the problem. You correct, and move forward. If it happens again, that's something else.

Having the guy quit creates a hole in the team. His training and practice hours are wasted. Someone else has to step up, but now the team is smaller, and less able to perform if someone gets sick.

In the military especially, you will screw up. You will break a rule, but you cannot let people think they can quit and solve it. They have to overcome that failure because in combat, quitting is not an option. The best time to build that mentality is in practice and demonstrations, which is why we do it.

This is a skill that is being lost in our society, and its why kids kill themselves so readily. As my drill sergeant said in Basic "Suck it up, drive on." Great advice for life.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 10:23 AM (ZOv7s)

181 Now. Run a battalion of tanks down that beach. There! That would be exciting!
Posted by: Diogenes
___

This^

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 10:23 AM (zhuhT)

182 Well, time to go, busy day ahead. God bless you!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 10:23 AM (ZOv7s)

183
Long and ago and far away...

When I was in the Navy, the Navy Fighter Pilots were definitely rock stars. The girls gravitated towards them like you wouldn't believe.

The funny thing was though, when that career was over, the guys who'd been "the bus drivers", the guys who'd been flying the big cargo craft, got the high-paying jobs as airliner pilots. The fighter pilot skills didn't really transfer easily to the new career.

Tempus fuget, people. Tempus puget.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM (iJfKG)

184 GOP Senator [Tom "Thumb" Tillis] Threatens to Nuke Any Bill That Seeks to Advance the SAVE America Act

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Vote fraud today! Vote fraud tomorrow! Vote fraud forever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM (ndZc7)

185 Professionalism, integrity, accountability...

From 2011:

Navy Cmdr. Dave Koss volunteered to be relieved of his duties after admitting days following a performance at Lynchburg Regional Air Show on May 22, that the movement he carried out "had an unacceptably low minimum altitude" and was not in accordance with airborne standards, according to a statement from the Naval Air Forces.

"This maneuver, combined with other instances of not meeting the airborne standard that makes the Blue Angels the exceptional organization that it is, led to my decision to step down," Koss said in the statement.

If only Jeff Kuss had had such a view as to what makes them exceptional. He might be alive today. (Kuss had a history of not performing up to such precise standards during previous practices for upcoming airshows).

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM (J4Dwc)

186 I hope he stays. The zero-tolerance mentality is for losers. Everyone screws up. Learn from it, drive on.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 18, 2026 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)


I think that was Hegseth's point when he tweeted "flyovers will continue until morale improves"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM (rbvCR)

187 The new Abrams tank is almost 20 tons lighter. I hope they didn't give up crew protection to get there.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:27 AM (/WQyy)

188 183 Tempus fuget, people. Tempus puget.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM (iJfKG)

tempus fugit

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 10:28 AM (6wpGE)

189 Rep. Summer Lee Admits She Wants More Black Doctors, Even If They're Unqualified
——-

So long as you keep them the hell away from me, have at it lady. Presumably she wouldn’t mind jet airliners crashing too while we’re at it. There aren’t enough unqualified pilots to go around, let’s get those numbers up. Pairs delightfully with unqualified flight controllers at ATC i’m sure.

She seems uniquely unqualified to be in government as well. Kind of a negative feedback loop they have going here. Nice

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 10:29 AM (GbFT6)

190 GOP Senator [Tom "Thumb" Tillis] Threatens to Nuke Any Bill That Seeks to Advance the SAVE America Act

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Vote fraud today! Vote fraud tomorrow! Vote fraud forever!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM


The loser doth protest too much.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 18, 2026 10:29 AM (Wnv9h)

191 I think that was Hegseth's point when he tweeted "flyovers will continue until morale improves"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM (rbvCR)

Heh… I didn’t know that context and thought Hegseth was referring to Iranian “flyovers” continuing until Mullah morale improves…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 18, 2026 10:29 AM (nkHgN)

192 Posted by: naturalfake at July 18, 2026 10:25 AM (iJfKG)

Confidence has always been an aphrodisiac. Those pilots had that by the barrel.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:29 AM (/WQyy)

193 > The funny thing was though, when that career was over, the guys who'd been "the bus drivers", the guys who'd been flying the big cargo craft, got the high-paying jobs as airliner pilots. The fighter pilot skills didn't really transfer easily to the new career.
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Or, as a buddy of mine did, fly a C-32 (modified 757 aka Air Force 2) for the Feds. Then fly various business jets for a big tech company. President of SAS has, or had, a modified 737 as his private jet. Pretty nice interior too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 10:30 AM (jehhT)

194 So much to pray for. Personal. Familial. Social. Universal. The list is longer than the blog.

God knows. Mercy upon us, Almighty Creator.

Good morning. Quiche and Coffee to start with.

Posted by: mindful webworker - a day without equal at July 18, 2026 10:31 AM (p+5Bi)

195 Teach them damn Cannucks!

Trump Threatens Higher Tariffs on Canada over “Dangerous” Smoke from Wildfires

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:31 AM (ndZc7)

196 I thought Thom Tillisth didn't lose, just announced his retirement. So now he's sitting in that seat like a flatulent old toad.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 10:32 AM (gKWVE)

197 Navy pilots are assigned to fly out of LaGuardia in their civilian career.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:33 AM (/WQyy)

198 >>>The fighter pilot skills didn't really transfer easily to the new career.

It all depends upon demand. When airlines are in an up-tempo hiring cycle, former fighter pilots are not handicapped by what they flew in the military. I flew with plenty of them.

It's the guys who flew rotary winged aircraft that really don't have much of a chance, although I flew with a few of those types, as well.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 10:34 AM (J4Dwc)

199 169 ... "I thought you were on-record as saying .41 Magnum aficionados are the absolute worst?
Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at July 18, 2026 09:59 AM (0sNs1)
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No, they're the best. Just ask them!"

Well, a truth that powerful is difficult to ignore.
Posted by: modest but honest .41 magnum fan

Posted by: JTB at July 18, 2026 10:35 AM (yTvNw)

200 Canucks can't hold dey smoke.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 10:35 AM (XvL8K)

201 200

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 10:35 AM (6wpGE)

202 200 Canucks can't hold dey smoke.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 18, 2026 10:35 AM (XvL8K)

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 10:36 AM (6wpGE)

203 >189 Rep. Summer Lee Admits She Wants More Black Doctors, Even If They're Unqualified
——-

Meta Boy did not get into Med school first time he applied despite graduating undergrad Summa Cum Laude and an MCAT score in the 97th percentile. When he did get in the following year, white males were a small percentage of his overall class. This is at one of the top 10 med schools in the U.S. Many of his cohort washed out after the first board exam and a bunch more after the second board exam. Those slots could have/should have gone to more qualified students.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 18, 2026 10:36 AM (GTqXr)

204 Wasn't it just a couple years ago Canada had another breakout of brush/forest fires that spewed smoke into the US? Went on for months IIRC.

I guess we shouldn't complain too much. Our brush/forest fires sometimes burn for months too.

Just seems like the Canadians don't even try to put them out. Might be too remote to do much... *shrugs*

Not seeing smoke here in KY so my ability to care is diminished.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 10:38 AM (jehhT)

205 Best stunt team I've seen are the Red Arrows. They also have very little restrictions unlike the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 18, 2026 10:38 AM (wOO3z)

206 Obligatory:
https://tinyurl.com/2x8xvee9

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 10:41 AM (Kt19C)

207 Well, that's wasted money.

Declassified CIA Note Reveals China Sought to Pay U.S. Journalists to Write Negative Stories about Trump to Influence 2020 Election

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:41 AM (ndZc7)

208 Thx MisHum.
Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need.
Captain Sabin, condolences to you and your family on your loss.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 10:42 AM (OXYE0)

209 Barnhardt is a nut, but an intelligent, interesting nut. Only read her when linked, but usually spend a little time down that hole.
But everything she writes should be read with the nut filter on.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 10:44 AM (sl73Y)

210 People sometimes assert that guys like Tillis and Thune are isolated in a bubble and can't hear the anger from the base.

This is, to put it as politely as I can, horseshit.

They have plenty of intel from us, the enemy. They have internal polling. They have staffers younger than 70, who work social media and sites like this for them. They have independent right wing media shoving mics directly in their faces and demanding they answer for their treachery.

They know ALL about our anger. They always have. And the response has always been "So they've got us surrounded, good! Now we can fire in any direction, those bastards won't get away this time!"

And that has always worked. And it will continue to. For at least a short while longer.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 10:45 AM (BI5O2)

211 Well, that's wasted money.

Declassified CIA Note Reveals China Sought to Pay U.S. Journalists to Write Negative Stories about Trump to Influence 2020 Election
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:41 AM (ndZc7)

Yeah the journalists would have done it for free or possibly paid their boss to run the stories.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 10:45 AM (/WQyy)

212 Prayers to all the Horde in need, and those in mourning.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 18, 2026 10:45 AM (7gFa4)

213 Now. Run a battalion of tanks down that beach. There! That would be exciting!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 18

And maybe a little artillary?

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 10:46 AM (sl73Y)

214 Offspring #1 is looking to change jobs. Process is ongoing, but no nibbles. Prayers appreciated.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2026 10:48 AM (2Ez/1)

215 Best stunt team I've seen are the Red Arrows. They also have very little restrictions unlike the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels.

The best stunt pilot I ever saw was Jimmy Franklin. Absolutely jaw-dropping. He's dead now.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 10:48 AM (vTZFs)

216 I guess we shouldn't complain too much. Our brush/forest fires sometimes burn for months too.

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We've got a coal seam fire west of Glenwood Springs that's been burning well over a century. The scar is clearly visible from I-70.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:48 AM (ndZc7)

217 well the headlines say, "Major appeals court declares New Jersey AR-15 ban unconstitutional in landmark Second Amendment ruling" but I am expecting the State of Oregon which has similar laws recently passed to scream YOLO and dare DoJ to sue them.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2026 10:48 AM (rbvCR)

218 The haze from the Canuck fires is lessening here in the mid Hudson. It's just about to start raining here so that will knock it down more. Someone said the other day if the fires continue we could see a return to haze later this week

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 10:50 AM (OXYE0)

219 ...but I am expecting the State of Oregon which has similar laws recently passed to scream YOLO and dare DoJ to sue them.

I sort of expect everything related to "assault weapons" will be on hold pending SCOTUS deciding Viramontes, hopefully sooner than later.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 10:51 AM (vTZFs)

220 > And that has always worked. And it will continue to. For at least a short while longer.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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One thing is certain; they do not have to fear throngs of irate constituents descending on the Capitol to express their dissatisfaction with their job performance.

Because that's about the only thing that has ever seemed to make an impression on those assholes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 10:53 AM (jehhT)

221 Now. Run a battalion of tanks down that beach. There! That would be exciting!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 18

And maybe a little artillary?
Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 10:46 AM (sl73Y)


Ohhhhhhh!!!!
The King of Battle has arrived!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 18, 2026 10:53 AM (2WIwB)

222 hope they didn't give up crew protection
Convertible top.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 10:54 AM (Kt19C)

223 Played golf at Quashnet Valley course on Cape Cod years ago. There was a national guard air base nearby and a couple of jets in formation flew so low I thought if I hit a high wedge it would hit them . Nice flying

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 10:56 AM (OXYE0)

224 And maybe a little artillary?
(hic) schomeone call (hic) me?
- Hilldawg

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 10:56 AM (Kt19C)

225 Condolences to you and yours, Capt.

May the good Lord keep you in His embrace during this time.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 10:58 AM (zhuhT)

226 224 And maybe a little artillary?
(hic) schomeone call (hic) me?
- Hilldawg
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 18, 2026 10:56 AM (Kt19C)

haha!

art Hillary!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 10:58 AM (6wpGE)

227 Jake Tapper explains the SAVE Act.

The president also discussed how he wanted to prevent non-citizens from voting by passing the "Save America Act.
I"We should note that it is already illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal and state elections," Tapper clarified.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:59 AM (ndZc7)

228 Weirdest dream I ever had was a huge airliner passing over my house at roof level and crashing not far from my house.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 11:00 AM (/WQyy)

229 Prayers for all.

Posted by: Mick at July 18, 2026 11:02 AM (HFx9z)

230 We should note that it is already illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal and state elections," Tapper clarified.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:59 AM (ndZc7)

And it's also illegal to speed, drink under age, take meth, drive without insurance , etc.

I swear the Left are the biggest retards in the universe and that's including Planet Retard X.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 11:04 AM (/WQyy)

231 And for the record, a Blue Angel pilot is not irreplaceable.

When a member of the Blues, for whatever reason, expectantly leaves the team mid-season, a former Blue Angel is tapped by the Navy to return to Pensacola to re-join the squadron for the balance of the airshow season. It typically takes a few weeks of practice sessions for him to be fully back up to speed and deemed safe to fly in airshows.

This is what happened when Dave Koss resigned as Boss in 2011. They brought in a former Blue Angel CO to lead the team. It's happens when other BA pilots leave, as well.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:05 AM (J4Dwc)

232
Declassified CIA Note Reveals China Sought to Pay U.S. Journalists to Write Negative Stories about Trump to Influence 2020 Election
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 18, 2026 10:41 AM (ndZc7)



Whole series of TrumpBadOrangeMan stories paid with Starbucks gift card. Superior officers in organs of State Security accuse me of pocketing rest of bribe money, so I defect to New Jersey.

Of course I pocket bribe money. You think I stupid?

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo, PLA Spy Defector at July 18, 2026 11:09 AM (iqcvy)

233 Expectantly?
So pregnant pilots then.

Posted by: Word nerd at July 18, 2026 11:09 AM (2Ez/1)

234 Does Tapper think that no murders occur? Because those are illegal too.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 18, 2026 11:09 AM (cX9q7)

235 I swear I typed "unexpectantly"

Meh, whatever.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:10 AM (J4Dwc)

236 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: Word nerd at July 18, 2026 11:11 AM (2Ez/1)

237 lol touche

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:11 AM (J4Dwc)

238 I assume everything is just autocorrect's fault.

Posted by: polynikes at July 18, 2026 11:13 AM (/WQyy)

239
Coolest flyby I've seen in years was an airshow in Madera about 2 years ago. Four P51 Mustangs roaring overhead at about 200 ft in a banking turn right over the crowd, going flat out, full military power.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2026 11:14 AM (iqcvy)

240 Thanks. I usually don't explain what I was going for as it's the viewer's interpretation but…
Posted by: polynikes


Explaining what you were going for in a painting is worse than explaining a joke.

Especially when a viewer comes up with interpretations you hadn't thought of and you can look smug like, "Oh, yes, I meant to do that."😁

Posted by: mindful webworker - I meant to do that at July 18, 2026 11:14 AM (p+5Bi)

241 I'm actually seeing some blue sky and fluffy clouds instead of solid white haze.
I might go outside!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 18, 2026 11:14 AM (kJmSS)

242 grumpy, if you're around, I removed the Windows update that was probably causing me the issues with my laptop, then downloaded via update the latest version of Windows 11.

That seems to have corrected the problem, at least for now until a new problem shows itself.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:15 AM (J4Dwc)

243 Vewy scawy.
https://tinyurl.com/ymwwat8e

Posted by: Thunder and lightning at July 18, 2026 11:17 AM (2Ez/1)

244 Played golf at Quashnet Valley course on Cape Cod years ago. There was a national guard air base nearby and a couple of jets in formation flew so low I thought if I hit a high wedge it would hit them . Nice flying
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July

Parents were members, would play a couple of times a summer. My father would hit down the fairway, deek into the swampy rough, and come out a hundred yards later with a dozen found balls. Hole after hole.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 11:19 AM (sl73Y)

245 "
Two pages and a bit more are done, and as Papa Hemingway advised, I stopped in the middle of a scene and a sentence, ready to pick up later. It's building to the big action scene, so I *really* want to go on with it, and I might.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026"

***
And so I did. Story is done, 5300 words. Originally I was going to have another scene as a coda. As I was working, though, I realized I could fold it into the current one, and I think it works.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 11:20 AM (wzUl9)

246 I want to go out for coffee and cheesecake. However, it's hot out there, the closest coffee shop has lousy A/C, and I'm waiting for a delivery item. Cheesecake can wait.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9)

247 Creeper, if you're lurking, I just left a voicemail for you about some plans Mr. Bassman and I have for tomorrow.

Hopefully you still have the same number.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 18, 2026 11:22 AM (OlzlW)

248
That seems to have corrected the problem, at least for now until a new problem shows itself.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:15 AM (J4Dwc)



You need to back up your files in the cloud using OneDrive
*deletes OneDrive*
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Advantages to OneDrive, so we reinstalled for you.
*deletes OneDrive*
*reinstalls OneDrive*
You're not very smart, are you? Here's your complimentary reinstallation of OneDrive.
*deletes OneDrive*
*researches latest distros of Linux*
Who said you could install Linux, you asshole. Use this reinstallation of OneDrive or we'll put your credit card number up on the Dark Web...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2026 11:22 AM (iqcvy)

249 He'd keep the Ultras, give the rest to his kids. Cleaning out his garage after passing we found about two dozen egg cartons each full of Ultras, a pretty lousy golf ball imo.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 18, 2026 11:23 AM (sl73Y)

250 @242/one hour sober: Excellent! I'm glad you found a resolution, and that I and others were able to point you to the potential source of the problem (Microslop's poorly designed and not-tested updates.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 11:23 AM (O7YUW)

251 @248/IllTemperedCur: { OneDrive persistence post }

*snorts!* Very well written. Bravo. You have captured the essence of one of the reasons why I (and many others) have come to hate Microslop so much.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 11:25 AM (O7YUW)

252 Prayers said for everyone, but especially Capt. May the Lord hold you and bring you peace.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 11:25 AM (Dd38x)

253 When I was a kid, I lived under a couple flight paths from AFBs, during the GWoT. I got to see all kinds of dope shit deploying out for coastal/global missions. I saw tons of cool aircraft over my house.

One thing I can say for sure: the US Government's assertions about our supplies and dispositions of F-22s are FALSE.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 18, 2026 11:25 AM (BI5O2)

254 Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Yeah, I wish I could reach into my machine and drag One Drive out by its throat.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:29 AM (J4Dwc)

255
(Microslop's poorly designed and not-tested updates.)

They're absolute geniuses compared to the used car salesmen running Xfinity. I just got the new apartment hooked up to the intertubes but need to get in and change my wifi network name, and do a bit of tweeking. Since the last time I hooked up Xfinity, they went to an app-only management system, which requires that you own a state-of-the-art smartphone with the latest IoS or Android software. Which I have, but their website won't let me download the app, says I'm logged in but not a customer so fuck you.

When you contact support, every "solution" starts with "open the app". But I can't even DOWNLOAD THE APP you retard. Oh, I see. Let's get that solved. First, open the app....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2026 11:32 AM (iqcvy)

256 I have a Generac whole home generator. I was able to download the Generac app just fine. The problem came when I tried to follow the instructions to pair my phone with the generator, which has a wifi antenna). What a clusterfuck. I finally gave up.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:38 AM (J4Dwc)

257 Oh, I see. Let's get that solved. First, open the app....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
--------

That's going around these days. Sick to death of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2026 11:40 AM (XeU6L)

258 We missed you! We helpfully reinstalled OneDrive for you. Now log in.
*deletes OneDrive*
*reinstalls OneDrive*


Between MacOS and Linux (neither of which are perfect), I will never again voluntarily use Windows on personally owned hardware.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2026 11:42 AM (vTZFs)

259 If you are not faint of heart and are tech savvy, look at this Windows site:

https://winutil.christitus.com/

Command line driven tweaks for about everything. I've used some of them without any issues.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 11:47 AM (jehhT)

260 Running the latest release of WinUtil

First step is:

"You will first need to start a PowerShell terminal as Admin."

I'm out. lol

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:50 AM (J4Dwc)

261 Mom on Perdido Key beach was ripping into her two young boys. She'd told them not to move from their spot on the beach while she went into the Gulf to cool off. A few minutes later, when she got out of the water, she didn't see her two boys. She looked up the beach and saw them playing in the sand. She walked up to them and starting ripping into them for moving when she explicitly told them not to.

Some people are pretty stupid.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 18, 2026 11:57 AM (J4Dwc)

Daily Tech News 18 July 2026

Top Story


Tech News


Research

The Eighth Law already requires that every admissible alteration of the noetic field (and, by extension, every macroscopic world-line that couples to that field) lie along a null geodesic of the full 6D manifold that satisfies the 2T-gauge conditions. Ordinary 3+1 orbital motion is the projection of such a higher-dimensional geodesic. Spin-orbit locking therefore cannot be a purely 3-spatial mechanical equilibrium; it must also be consistent with the hidden t 2 t_2 and x 4 x^4 components of the geodesic. In practice this appears observationally as an additional, apparently arbitrary ceiling on how tightly a world can remain synchronized: once the integrated "geodesic resistance" I ( γ ) \mathcal{I}(\gamma) exceeds a threshold set by the unknown couplings β \beta, κ \kappa and the noetic tensor, further dissipative evolution is forbidden even if ordinary tidal torque remains. The result is that perfect, permanent 1:1 locking may be rarer or more fragile than in 3+1 physics, and residual libration or slow drift in the relative orientation of the permanent day/night hemispheres can persist.

This actually makes complete sense given the context, and solves the problem, but even so gives me a headache.

All I wanted to do was make the sky blue.

I've also been tinkering with Fable as well as Grok, and while it's impressive, I don't trust it. It heaped effusive praise on what I consider one of the weakest points of the plot of the story I'm working on.



Musical Interlude





Disclaimer: Do not eat the dark snow.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM




Comments

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

2 Woot morning!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026 04:34 AM (BLOW1)

3 Models - Barbados

catchy
bleak
aussie

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:34 AM (6wpGE)

4 Indeed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2026 04:35 AM (XV/Pl)

5 Disclaimer: Do not eat the dark snow.

... and the yellow snow is right out.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE)

6 AI datacenters must produce as much energy as they consume, says retarded communist and part-time Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese.

So they have to build nuclear power plants to supply the power? How about some gas and coal fired along with it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:37 AM (l3cgK)

7 5 Disclaimer: Do not eat the dark snow.

... and the yellow snow is right out.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE)

I hear the red snow tastes like watermelon, but gives you the runs...not worth it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:37 AM (l3cgK)

8 Did I just accidentally buy America? https://t.co/8RVfe4Cc5Q pic.twitter.com/G37bmFaNR5

Not even 37 Musk-equivalents can pay that monthly bill...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:39 AM (l3cgK)

9 You know those satellite photos where South Korea is buzzing right along and North Korea is entirely blacked out because there are no lights on? Yeah, kinda like that.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:39 AM (6wpGE)

10 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 04:40 AM (jrKun)

11 North Korea from space at night

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

12 This actually makes complete sense given the context, and solves the problem, but even so gives me a headache.

And doesn't even solve the DDR shortage problem...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:41 AM (l3cgK)

13 11 North Korea from space at night

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

That's because North Korea is a commie paradise...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:42 AM (l3cgK)

14 12 And doesn't even solve the DDR shortage problem...
Posted by: jim


The impossible we do immediately; the miraculous takes a little longer.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026 04:45 AM (BLOW1)

15 Would it be impossible or miraculous to avoid black diamonds in typed text?

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:46 AM (6wpGE)

16 14 12 And doesn't even solve the DDR shortage problem...
Posted by: jim

The impossible we do immediately; the miraculous takes a little longer.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026 04:45 AM (BLOW1)

Your hash is BLOW1? LOL!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:46 AM (l3cgK)

17 How unfortunate.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:46 AM (l3cgK)

18 Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026 04:45 AM (BLOW1)

He picked it himself! It's wonderful.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:48 AM (6wpGE)

19 Not U.S. dollars. Zimbabwean dollars.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 04:48 AM (qFwJc)

20 18 Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026 04:45 AM (BLOW1)

He picked it himself! It's wonderful.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:48 AM (6wpGE)

I guess it depends who's the blower and who's the blowee...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:49 AM (l3cgK)

21 I'll have you know that my hash is real and magnificent.

And I have a business-grade internet connection with a static IP so it never changes.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026 04:50 AM (BLOW1)

22 19 Not U.S. dollars. Zimbabwean dollars.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 04:48 AM (qFwJc)

362 Zdollars to USD...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:50 AM (l3cgK)

23
DDR5 = Double Data Rate 5

as in

Double Data Rate 5 Synchronous Dynamic Random-Access Memory (DDR5 SDRAM)

a type of synchronous dynamic random-access memory (Wikipedia)

[not Deutsche Demokratische Republik]

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:52 AM (6wpGE)

24
(I was temporarily confused.)

(Well, "temporarily," but.)

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:54 AM (6wpGE)

25 21 I'll have you know that my hash is real and magnificent.

And I have a business-grade internet connection with a static IP so it never changes.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026 04:50 AM (BLOW1)

Noice. My hash didn't change for years until the local cable company shut my internet down for hours for "repair work". When it came on next, it had changed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:54 AM (l3cgK)

26 13 11 North Korea from space at night

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

That's because North Korea is a commie paradise...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:42 AM (l3cgK)

Similarly:

AI datacenters must produce as much energy as they consume, says retarded communist and part-time Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese. (Tom's Hardware)

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:57 AM (6wpGE)

27 26 13 11 North Korea from space at night

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:41 AM (6wpGE)

That's because North Korea is a commie paradise...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 04:42 AM (l3cgK)

Similarly:

AI datacenters must produce as much energy as they consume, says retarded communist and part-time Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese. (Tom's Hardware)

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:57 AM (6wpGE)

Yes, and they should build coal, nuclear, and gas-powered electric generation plants to do it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 05:01 AM (l3cgK)

28 nice overview (heh) of this topic on Wikipedia:

Satellite imagery in North Korea

Satellite imagery in North Korea is a knowledge-building tool in the field of North Korean studies. It enables researchers to produce data-based analyses in the agricultural, humanitarian, economic and military fields, in a country where access to the field is limited.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:03 AM (6wpGE)

29 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2026 05:04 AM (V0/Sp)

30 28 nice overview (heh) of this topic on Wikipedia:

Satellite imagery in North Korea

Satellite imagery in North Korea is a knowledge-building tool in the field of North Korean studies. It enables researchers to produce data-based analyses in the agricultural, humanitarian, economic and military fields, in a country where access to the field is limited.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:03 AM (6wpGE)

China is asshoe.
North Korea is asshoe.
Russia is asshoe.
Iran is asshoe.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 05:04 AM (l3cgK)

31 Research

I understood almost all of the words and even a few scattered phrases.

Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2026 05:05 AM (V0/Sp)

32 hmm

Border cities bright at night as North Korea goes solar

Radio Free Asia
https://www.rfa.org › english › korea › 2026/06/27
Jun 26, 2026 — A North Korean city on the border with China is no longer completely dark at nighttime, satellite imagery and eyewitness accounts revealed.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:06 AM (6wpGE)

33 31 Research

I understood almost all of the words and even a few scattered phrases.
Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2026 05:05 AM (V0/Sp)

I powered through it!
*fistbump*

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:08 AM (6wpGE)

34
>>AI datacenters must produce as much energy as they consume, says retarded communist and part-time Australian prime minister

=============

Fine. Shall we do that via perpetual motion or time travel?

Posted by: The Engineering Team at July 18, 2026 05:09 AM (mmrXZ)

35 At least here the smoke is less than it has been. Glad to see DC in on the smoke, since they already get quite a bit from the congress. (I might add mirrors to that)

Posted by: Colin at July 18, 2026 05:09 AM (CiQE7)

36 33 31 Research

I understood almost all of the words and even a few scattered phrases.
Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2026 05:05 AM (V0/Sp)

I powered through it!
*fistbump*

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:08 AM (6wpGE)

Yeah, math. I thought we eschewed that here...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 05:09 AM (l3cgK)

37 34
>>AI datacenters must produce as much energy as they consume, says retarded communist and part-time Australian prime minister

=============

Fine. Shall we do that via perpetual motion or time travel?

Posted by: The Engineering Team at July 18, 2026 05:09 AM (mmrXZ)

Time Travel won't work...the energy requirements would be more than astronomical, literally, if even possible.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 05:10 AM (l3cgK)

38
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 18, 2026 05:14 AM (AMvSw)

39 36 33 31
Yeah, math. I thought we eschewed that here...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 18, 2026 05:09 AM (l3cgK)

I didn't recognize it as being math.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:16 AM (6wpGE)

40
I understood almost all of the words and even a few scattered phrases.
Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2026 05:05 AM (V0/Sp)

I powered through it!
*fistbump*
Posted by: m

==============

Oh yeah? Well, I know how to pronounce Sinuiju.

And hang it all, I want North Korea to implode. This solar energy advance might give relief to a few suffering souls, but it also means a prolongation of the cruel status quo.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 05:17 AM (mmrXZ)

41 Look, if PM Albanese wants to repeal the laws of physics, he can do so. He is a PM!

The only reason he will not outlaw death is because he is in the pockets of Big Death.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:17 AM (4g5V+)

42
Time Travel won't work...the energy requirements would be more than astronomical, literally, if even possible.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

============

I like Time Travel! Just go back a little further in time to get more energy.

Posted by: Anthony Albanese at July 18, 2026 05:20 AM (mmrXZ)

43
Sinuiju | ˌSHinˈ wēˌ jo͞o |
a city and port in North Korea, situated on the Yalu River near its mouth on the Yellow Sea; population 383,200 (est. 2003).

Something like

shin WEE joo

I think.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:20 AM (6wpGE)

44
[not Deutsche Demokratische Republik]
Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:52 AM (6wpGE)

Heh. Anytime I see DDR even in terms of computer chips, the first thing I think of is the GDR. Showing my age I guess.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:20 AM (4g5V+)

45 >>AI datacenters must produce as much energy as they consume, says retarded communist and part-time Australian prime ministe

This really isn't a big issue if you look at whats happening in the the US. Just get out of the way.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:22 AM (viF8m)

46
Something like

shin WEE joo

I think.
Posted by: m

=============

A little more like SHEEN weh joo

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 05:24 AM (mmrXZ)

47 46
Something like

shin WEE joo

I think.
Posted by: m

=============

A little more like SHEEN weh joo
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 05:24 AM (mmrXZ)

Thank you!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 05:25 AM (6wpGE)

48 Did I just accidentally buy America?

If you owe Amazon $58 trillion, you don't have a problem- Amazon has a problem. Might as well keep shopping!

Posted by: t-bird at July 18, 2026 05:27 AM (SdO+F)

49 I just woke myself and Hubbymayhem by laughing in a dream and laughing out loud because of the dream. I don't remember the last time that happened. But DAYUM! That one minute dream was fucking funny!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2026 05:30 AM (OsdBI)

50 19 Not U.S. dollars. Zimbabwean dollars.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 04:48 AM (qFwJc)

But Robert Mugabe outlawed inflation! That one act saved the Zimbabwean currency!

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:32 AM (4g5V+)

51
This really isn't a big issue if you look at whats happening in the the US. Just get out of the way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:22 AM (viF8m)

What?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:33 AM (4g5V+)

52 51
This really isn't a big issue if you look at whats happening in the the US. Just get out of the way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:22 AM (viF8m)

What?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:33 AM (

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:33 AM (4g5V+)

53 Damn iPad is making socking PM Albanese impossible…

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:34 AM (4g5V+)

54 >>What?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:33 AM

This is what I do for a living when I'm not arguing with stupid women who tell me to shut up and sit down.

Have you died yet from global warming? Did Trump collude with Russia?

Energy is adjusting. It might be a good investment.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:39 AM (viF8m)

55 Evening and morning, Saturday toilers and early risers!

The main thing I got out of the article about the ZiLog chip was the mention of WordStar. That was the first word processor I ever encountered, on the 1988 PCs at the local community college. I was learning about them (and how to type, among other things) as part of the Job Training Partnership Act classes for "displaced workers." That is one thing above all others that changed my life. If I had not seen that ad in the paper . . . I shiver to think about what might have become of me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:41 AM (wzUl9)

56 DDR? I always think of the scene in the 1980s "amateur encounters spies" movie Gotcha! with Anthony Edwards and Linda Fiorentino. The college student played by Edwards goes into East Germany, and the admittance clerk mutters, "Velcome to de DDR."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:45 AM (wzUl9)

57 AI is evil in all its forms. It has no real purpose other than surveillance.

Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2026 05:45 AM (/Chlc)

58 The impossible we do immediately; the miraculous takes a little longer.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 18, 2026


***
The unofficial and never-spoken motto of the Impossible Missions Force under Dan Briggs, ca. 1966-67!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:47 AM (wzUl9)

59 56 DDR? I always think of the scene in the 1980s "amateur encounters spies" movie Gotcha! with Anthony Edwards and Linda Fiorentino. The college student played by Edwards goes into East Germany, and the admittance clerk mutters, "Velcome to de DDR."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:45 AM (wzUl9)

I loved that movie.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:49 AM (4g5V+)

60 Used to follow Zimbabwean news very closely, interesting country. I hear flying on Zimbabwean airlines is exciting, to say the least. Old Soviet planes that are banned in most other countries. (or at least were)
Now Robert Mugabe was a great leader, lived the great leader lifestyle. He went to rags to riches, chased out most of the European farmers, and gave the land to the people who didn't know a shovel from a tree. Lived far to long.....Loved the exchange rate to US dollars. To many zero's for me to figure out. They once had a 50 trillion dollar bill.

Posted by: Colin at July 18, 2026 05:50 AM (CiQE7)

61 AT&T Stadium in Lubbock is being renamed Galaxy Stadium. Galaxy made its money from Bitcoin and is now hip deep in evil data centers.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:51 AM (4g5V+)

62 60 Used to follow Zimbabwean news very closely, interesting country. I hear flying on Zimbabwean airlines is exciting, to say the least. Old Soviet planes that are banned in most other countries. (or at least were)
Now Robert Mugabe was a great leader, lived the great leader lifestyle. He went to rags to riches, chased out most of the European farmers, and gave the land to the people who didn't know a shovel from a tree. Lived far to long.....Loved the exchange rate to US dollars. To many zero's for me to figure out. They once had a 50 trillion dollar bill.
Posted by: Colin at July 18, 2026 05:50 AM (CiQE7)

At one point the Zimbabwean…pound? Dollar? Was halving in value every 16 hours.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:53 AM (4g5V+)

63 Good morning, all!

Here is a thoughtful devotional by a man on Acts 16:6-10, ( KJV )"Road Closed, Spirit Led" about changes of our plans and being alert to God's guidance

https://tinyurl.com/4nt24w3s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 05:53 AM (jt/rW)

64 83 F. outdoors, heat index of 93. I do not wanna go work out in that. I can take off today . . . but tomorrow will no doubt be the same.

Miss Linda and I went to the nearby mall and walked for almost half an hour yesterday. I never see anybody running or even trotting there. But I need to start a new fad if I can. It's just too bloody hot outdoors.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:53 AM (wzUl9)

65 >>AI is evil in all its forms. It has no real purpose other than surveillance.

AI is no more evil than an AR.

It's a tool. Use it wisely.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:54 AM (viF8m)

66 DDR? I always think of the scene in the 1980s "amateur encounters spies" movie Gotcha! with Anthony Edwards and Linda Fiorentino. The college student played by Edwards goes into East Germany, and the admittance clerk mutters, "Velcome to de DDR."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026
*
I loved that movie.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026


***
It's a forgotten gem. Maybe I can get a DVD from the library.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 05:55 AM (wzUl9)

67 Goat guides firefighters through Colorado wildfire. Faithpot site:

https://tinyurl.com/yzy73zda

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 05:58 AM (jt/rW)

68 AI is overhyped and overblown. Does this so called AI have its uses? Sure. But it’s overhyped and overblown. JMHO.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 06:00 AM (4g5V+)

69 Kitten antics continue. He's still enjoying the little plastic spring like thing. It's amazing how much cats can enjoy toys that are inexpensive . The spring was left over from our last cat. He has now learned to bring it to FenSpouse to play a game of fetch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 06:03 AM (jt/rW)

70 Kittens are great. It's too bad they grow into cats.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 06:07 AM (qFwJc)

71 Fen, there was, and maybe still is, a toy called the Cat Dancer. It's a permanently curved length of springy smooth wire with bits of cardboard at each end so it won't poke out an eye. I bought it decades ago for Arizona the big red tabby, and every cat I've known since then has loved it. It has the advantage, too, that since it's springy, if you start the cat or kitten off with it, he can keep playing with it on his own.

Dagny and Stirling love it, and Dagny even fishes it out of the toy basket on her own. See if you can find it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:07 AM (wzUl9)

72 "Velcome to de DDR."


My pencil is big and yellow.

Posted by: fluffy at July 18, 2026 06:08 AM (V0/Sp)

73 Putting an AI server in the office is you owning an AR.
Running all internet traffic thru a data center that the government can access without a warrant is an army.

Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2026 06:09 AM (8jVAy)

74 Kittens are great. It's too bad they grow into cats.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026


***
Blanche Bickerson: "Cats are easy to make friends with. Get him something to play with."

John Bickerson: "I'll bring him a dog in the morning!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:09 AM (wzUl9)

75 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:07 AM (wzUl9

Thanks for the recommendation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 06:10 AM (jt/rW)

76 53 Damn iPad is making socking PM Albanese impossible…
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:34 AM (4g5V+)

Which leads me to do it like this:

52 51 This really isn't a big issue if you look at whats happening in the the US. Just get out of the way.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 05:22 AM (viF8m)

What?

--Anthony Albanese
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 05:33 AM

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 06:11 AM (6wpGE)

77 >>AI is overhyped and overblown. Does this so called AI have its uses? Sure. But it’s overhyped and overblown. JMHO.

Many moons ago I was told I was making a huge mistake taking a job with this little router company out of the Bay area that was going to transition ARPANET into this thing called the internet. I had friends mock me when I told them about these things called email and online banking. We now call them how we live.

AI is coming. None of us are going to stop it. Choose wisely.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:11 AM (viF8m)

78 Repeat Gospel song" Precious Lord, take my hand" by Hank Williams, Sr. He really did have a wonderful way of delivering his music:

https://tinyurl.com/3hn56syz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 06:17 AM (jt/rW)

79 77 taking a job with this little router company out of the Bay area that was going to transition ARPANET into this thing called the internet
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:11 AM (viF8m)

What year was that, JackStraw?

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 06:18 AM (6wpGE)

80 Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 06:07 AM (qFwJc)

I've always liked all my adult cats.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 06:21 AM (jt/rW)

81 Kitten antics continue. He's still enjoying the little plastic spring like thing. It's amazing how much cats can enjoy toys that are inexpensive . The spring was left over from our last cat. He has now learned to bring it to FenSpouse to play a game of fetch.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 06:03 AM (jt/rW)
----
A length of string and a balled up piece of paper are some of their favorite cat toys.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 06:24 AM (FZ29D)

82 Tim Conway debuts on Johnny Carson-1977. Clip from "Faithpot" site:

https://tinyurl.com/3nu7v3da

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 06:25 AM (jt/rW)

83 Yesterday that long-awaited and long-thought-mythical pension payout showed up at my door earlier than they promised. I've scanned it to my IRA guy to see if they have addressed it correctly. If so, I'll ship it off to him next week -- probably by UPS, as that was how it came to me.

If they haven't addressed it correctly . . . No. I don't want to think about that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:25 AM (wzUl9)

84 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 06:24 AM (FZ29D)

Yes: He loves strings.!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026 06:26 AM (jt/rW)

85 ----
A length of string and a balled up piece of paper are some of their favorite cat toys.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026


***
My mother devised a cat toy from a wadded-up piece of crinkly clear plastic, the wrapping from a pack of her cigarettes, cinched in the middle with a string. Her last cat, L'il Bit, would bring it to her to play.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:28 AM (wzUl9)

86 Yes: He loves strings.!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 18, 2026


***
They love to have the string disappear around a corner and will leap after it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:30 AM (wzUl9)

87 >>What year was that, JackStraw?

199 something, Never really thought about the dates.

But the next few years were incredible. Being a small part of watching and paticizting in the growth was mind boggling when I look back on it


And that anonymous thing? That doesn't really exist.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:31 AM (viF8m)

88 G'Day everyone
I didn't get much sleep

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 06:31 AM (Ia/+0)

89 87 >>What year was that, JackStraw?

199 something, Never really thought about the dates.

But the next few years were incredible. Being a small part of watching and paticizting in the growth was mind boggling when I look back on it

And that anonymous thing? That doesn't really exist.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 06:31 AM (viF8m)

supercool

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 06:34 AM (6wpGE)

90 I've dismissed the workout idea for today. A microwaved chicken pot pie sprinkled with cheese for breakfast; a half bagel with butter; more coffee and a pipe, and then I'll get to work on my current short story. I may finish it tomorrow before Linda drags me off to the local art museum.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:35 AM (wzUl9)

91 The Mitch McConnell "Thriller" video is genius. That's all.

Good Morning horde!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 06:40 AM (odyr+)

92 73 Putting an AI server in the office is you owning an AR.
Running all internet traffic thru a data center that the government can access without a warrant is an army.
Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2026 06:09 AM (8jVAy)

A government that will use data centers to oppress its people is a government that doesn't need data centers to oppress its people because it's doing it already.

The data center is not the issue.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 18, 2026 06:41 AM (Ot/FD)

93 Good morning! Looking forward to a day in the garden and an afternoon nap. Got an invite to a presentation early next week for very large, and long term project that would take 2-3 years. I'd work it from home, so no pants except when going to the aircraft for inspection or test. Kinda excited about that.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 18, 2026 06:45 AM (3Ope8)

94 Here I am visiting Rhode Island (passing through), and so far the morning TV news has as many political ads as product ads. Seth Moulton dislikes Schumer by the way, and everyone thinks Trump is a poopyhead.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 06:45 AM (odyr+)

95 mornin yall. Long ago I taught some classes on WordStar, on CP/M. Calcstar and dBASE too. Green screens and 64k of RAM.

Posted by: Man who lives as a pig at July 18, 2026 06:46 AM (MWfyi)

96 On the Amazon thing, I got an email from Gab AI that they were experience similar issues with their billing system. They were being attacked by thousands of bots creating free accounts and running up usage numbers. They caught it pretty quick, but not before the billing damage ran to thousands of dollars.

This might be related. It doesn't looking exactly the same, but it's an interesting coincidence.

Posted by: meh at July 18, 2026 06:47 AM (zZxsY)

97 91 The Mitch McConnell "Thriller" video is genius. That's all.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 06:40 AM (odyr+)

Kinda scary, tho.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 06:48 AM (6wpGE)

98 The Mitch McConnell "Thriller" video...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 06:40 AM (odyr+)

Had to go gurgle search that. HA! It is pretty damn funny!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 18, 2026 06:48 AM (3Ope8)

99 Oink.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 06:49 AM (MWfyi)

100 100

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 06:49 AM (6wpGE)

101 95 Long ago I taught some classes on WordStar, on CP/M. Calcstar and dBASE too. Green screens and 64k of RAM.
Posted by: Man who lives as a pig at July 18, 2026 06:46 AM (MWfyi)

Wow; cool.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 06:50 AM (6wpGE)

102 mornin yall. Long ago I taught some classes on WordStar, on CP/M. Calcstar and dBASE too. Green screens and 64k of RAM.
Posted by: Man who lives as a pig at July 18, 2026


***
I remember dBase as well. Lotus 1-2-3, IBM's own DisplayWrite, and at last WordPerfect with its hidden codes. And wouldn't you know it, at my first job after the classes, the office used . . . Microsoft Word for DOS. I had to learn it, and did, doing a lot of Mail Merge and eventually writing a macro to renumber questions on a 100-question test.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:53 AM (wzUl9)

103 Hank Williams entire line are pretty good at singing! Here is his granddaughter, Holly.

https://tinyurl.com/2a5uk7zs

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 06:54 AM (FWIP7)

104 Time for a walk in the smoke and damp.

Posted by: Accomack at July 18, 2026 06:55 AM (GbONR)

105 Hank Williams entire line are pretty good at singing! Here is his granddaughter, Holly.

https://tinyurl.com/2a5uk7zs
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026


***
Hank Jr.'s granddaughter, or Hank Sr.'s?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:55 AM (wzUl9)

106 You never go fullbanese

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 18, 2026 06:56 AM (DZ9Lv)

107 'Bout time to feed the monsters and get to work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 18, 2026 06:56 AM (wzUl9)

108 Holly is Hank Jr.'s pretty hot daughter

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 06:58 AM (FWIP7)

109 One thing that surprised me over time is how Lotus 123 got destroyed by Excel. Lotus was really entrenched for a while and people hate to change programs.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 06:59 AM (MWfyi)

110 Was thinking it was Sunday

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 07:00 AM (Ia/+0)

111 I only have one CP/M PC left, a Zenith. I wish I had kept a Kaypro, they were pretty cool "portable" computers.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:01 AM (MWfyi)

112 We had a "Kaypro" when very young! It was useless but very cool.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:03 AM (FWIP7)

113 Both used Z80 CPUs. 4.77mhz as I recall.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:03 AM (MWfyi)

114 "We had a "Kaypro" when very young! It was useless but very cool.
Posted by: Huck Follywood"

I sold Kaypro and other CP/M computers. Word processing was probably the most popular application. My dad developed a water billing program for small municipalities that he sold for years. It was never ported to DOS but some cities continued to run it for many years after the IBM PC came out.

I wrote a program in dBASE that would take the input from comment cards from a local restaurant chain and categorize the comments, like how many comments on dirty utensils, cold food, poor service etc. That company is still in business but I don't think they use my program anymore

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:09 AM (MWfyi)

115 Morning peeps.

I see a number of 29 year old's who've worked tech since, practically, day one.

I do recall "the holy trinity" of Word Perfect, Lotus 123 and Dbase III as the standard office suite. Add in early e-mail like cc:Mail and... there you go.

For me, it was all that on Novell S-Net servers and ITT branded workstations with whopping 5MB hard drives and two 5.25" floppies.

Heady days.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 07:10 AM (jehhT)

116 Poor Novell. They got killed by TCP/IP. Remember Novell on Token Ring?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:12 AM (MWfyi)

117 In my company's earliest days our software ran on 80's vintage Atari computers

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:13 AM (mV7kM)

118 What did you do with the Ataris? Word processing?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:15 AM (MWfyi)

119 Back when IBM still produced stuff they had a good OS (OS2), much better than MSDOS. Of course DOS won anyway.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:17 AM (mV7kM)

120 I was joking about cats. I like them too. But kittens are ridiculously cute.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 18, 2026 07:18 AM (qFwJc)

121 We had a report product used by banks, for account data

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:18 AM (mV7kM)

122 Oh no, the Markels might move back to England. Now where will we get our runny jam and radish carving advice?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:18 AM (MWfyi)

123 On my way to Hyannis this morning. Maybe I'll swing by the Kennedy compound and see whats shaking. Do they still get SS protection do you think?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:19 AM (mV7kM)

124 Some channel on Roku Live is running the old sci-fi movie Tarantula. It has Clint Eastwood's first film appearance, but you really can't tell it's Clint. He plays the fighter pilot who drops a bomb on the giant tarantula at the end, but he's wearing a flight helmet and mask.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 18, 2026 07:20 AM (l26NL)

125 If IBM had incorporated native support for Windows applications OS2 might have survived. IBM can be pretty dumb at times though, see Microchannel.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:21 AM (MWfyi)

126 Off to war
Have a great day horde

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 07:22 AM (Ia/+0)

127 IBM had a good marketing tagline for OS2, "With OS2, you'd be home by now", emphasizing how Windows was loaded with bloatware even its earliest days

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:24 AM (mV7kM)

128 "We had a report product used by banks, for account data
Posted by: Huck Follywood"

That was a typical thing back then. Just one program justified the expense of a computer because it made it so much easier and faster than doing it the old way.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:24 AM (MWfyi)

129 123 On my way to Hyannis this morning. Maybe I'll swing by the Kennedy compound and see whats shaking. Do they still get SS protection do you think?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:19 AM (mV7kM)

Just for asking that, you probably just got put on a List.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:25 AM (6wpGE)

130 Since we competed against custom code running on DEC machines our cost advantage was huge. Good times.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:25 AM (mV7kM)

131 > Poor Novell. They got killed by TCP/IP. Remember Novell on Token Ring?
------------
1985... I was certified as a Novell Engineer. Novell was a pioneer in directory services, key in early Internet. I wrote a Novell Administrator's Guide for the US Treasury dealing with directory services, LDAP, etc. Like 200 pages for the network I built for them... while working for them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 07:25 AM (jehhT)

132 "We are in the business of giving away information"

--BMUG

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:27 AM (6wpGE)

133 You guys! Great stuff.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:27 AM (6wpGE)

134 We developed a program for a concrete plant that would calculate adjustments of the proportions of a particular concrete mix based on the temperature and humidity that day. That old PC sat in the office of the plant for many years until it was encrusted with concrete dust inside and out and finally died. By then MSDOS had come along and there were commercial programs that did the same thing.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:29 AM (MWfyi)

135 Good morning all, thx Pixy. Always interesting reading your tech updates.
Still a bit of Canuck haze here. Going to start raining in a couple of hours, should knock the haze down.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2026 07:30 AM (OXYE0)

136 Used to follow Zimbabwean news very closely, interesting country.

I did too until I gave up my subscription to the Detroit Free Press. Not enough pictures and too expensive when I was in prison.

Posted by: Kwame Kilpatrick at July 18, 2026 07:30 AM (45BvE)

137 "1985... I was certified as a Novell Engineer. "

Most everything was on daisy chained coax back then. That was fun, chasing cable defects.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:31 AM (MWfyi)

138 The morning news is full of scare stuff today, saying "averaging a drink a day" contributes mightily to cancer.

This will not be well received by the chardonnay Karen crowd.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:38 AM (C2m2z)

139 >>>AWS is experiencing a wee spot of bother with its billing system.

A wee spot of Aussie-speak!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:38 AM (6wpGE)

140 >>>AWS is experiencing a wee spot of bother with its billing system.

A wee spot of Aussie-speak!
Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:38 AM (6wpGE)
----
Decimal places...how do they work?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 07:39 AM (FZ29D)

141 "averaging a drink a day" contributes mightily to cancer."

How about 5 or 10 a day? Does that keep it off?

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:40 AM (MWfyi)

142 I am reminded of the lyrics of a song Berserker pointed me to:

I'm a man, a man with a plan
My plan is to booze as much as I can

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:42 AM (MWfyi)

143 It would seem to me, given the myriad agencies and alphabet organizations involving the digital panopticon of total surveillance, if you are not on somebody’s “list” somewhere, you really ought to be ashamed of yourself, and re-consider your life choices. Strive to do better!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 07:43 AM (oFj7+)

144
Remember when the Army used the Enable office suite software on Zenith PCs? I learned spreadsheets on Enable, tracking ammo forecasting and expenditures around 1990.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 18, 2026 07:44 AM (iqcvy)

145 138 The morning news is full of scare stuff today, saying "averaging a drink a day" contributes mightily to cancer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:38 AM (C2m2z)

Maybe they mean, like, the verb "to average":

• calculate or estimate the average of (figures or measurements): their earnings, averaged out over the month, were only $62 a week.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:46 AM (6wpGE)

146 Zenith Z-100s? At one time I had a contract to service all of them on a local AF base.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:46 AM (MWfyi)

147 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 07:47 AM (u82oZ)

148 At the end of that contract there were 4 left.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:48 AM (MWfyi)

149 142 I am reminded of the lyrics of a song Berserker pointed me to:

I'm a man, a man with a plan
My plan is to booze as much as I can
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:42 AM (MWfyi)

I'm reminded of

“A Man, A Plan, A Canal, Panama!”

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:48 AM (6wpGE)

150 "I'm reminded of

“A Man, A Plan, A Canal, Panama!”
Posted by: m"

I think you got it backwards.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:48 AM (MWfyi)

151 150 "I'm reminded of

“A Man, A Plan, A Canal, Panama!”
Posted by: m"

I think you got it backwards.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:48 AM (MWfyi)

It's upside down.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 07:49 AM (6wpGE)

152 "I'm reminded of

“A Man, A Plan, A Canal, Panama!”
Posted by: m"

I think you got it backwards.
Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:48 AM (MWfyi)
---
* golf clap *

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 18, 2026 07:49 AM (FZ29D)

153 > Remember when the Army used the Enable office suite software on Zenith PCs?
-----------
Z-248's I think. Workhorses.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2026 07:50 AM (jehhT)

154 "Z-248's I think. Workhorses.
Posted by: Martini Farmer"

Those came after when I decided I was done with contracts with the Federal Government.

Posted by: fd at July 18, 2026 07:53 AM (MWfyi)

155 Covefe up!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2026 07:53 AM (r7+k8)

156 I think "Mike", the AI from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, has finally come to fruition. And is playing one of its first gags, messing with the billing system to the tune of billions or more.

Posted by: Another Anon at July 18, 2026 10:09 AM (4h45B)

Look At Me I'm ONT

Welcome to Friday night! Y'all do realize that today's political discourse is really lame, right?


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Fido Friday: Wheee!


Terry

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AI


Sounds legit

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Doc, I'm still awake

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Bad day


This would start civil war 2

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Bottoms up!

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Honesty


Uhh..

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It's a living

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Saw some of you guys on TV


Me finding ONT content

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NDA

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I wanna know who did this


That's how it works

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This is just wrong

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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Odysseus:

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Posted by: WeirdDave at 10:00 PM




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1 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 17, 2026 09:59 PM (w3u3d)

2 Okay, I'm here. We can get started.

Posted by: mindful webworker -party on, Morons at July 17, 2026 10:00 PM (p+5Bi)

3 Smackwater Jack

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 10:00 PM (VQ0bX)

4 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2026 10:01 PM (pyNYl)

5 Hot damn, a winner

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 17, 2026 10:01 PM (w3u3d)

6 It’s that ONT time again!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 10:03 PM (Ptkiu)

7 Sorry I'm late, I made a run for the border. Which necessitated a run for the bathroom.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:04 PM (GX6fr)

8 I heard the paddle boarders, if the raccoon rescue happened in TX, thought it was a dog at first that they were rescuing.

Posted by: Rex B at July 17, 2026 10:04 PM (R0XxO)

9 Fresh drinks all round!

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 17, 2026 10:05 PM (gbWHQ)

10 Evening, WD, and ONT Horde. LOL at the deterrent Tweet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 10:06 PM (1z8ji)

11 Long drive home

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 10:06 PM (0a6NG)

12 Happy Friday everyone!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (6lIrI)

13 I called downstairs

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (w3u3d)

14 Good evening Horde. Thanks WD!

Posted by: TRex - hazy skies dino at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (XfIK1)

15 This pisses me off big time !!!!!!!!!!!

I have spent over $1200 on Melatonin and now I know why my skin has not changed color.

Trump lied to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (IEljh)

16 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (v9vY1)

17 Thanks for the ONT.

On lunch, I was picking up some stuff at Publix and thought about getting a sandwich. They had one of their chicken and bacon and mayo sandwiches there. But also lettuce and I thought 'best not'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (zZu0s)

18 Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2026 10:01 PM (pyNYl)

Left out again!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (StSOD)

19 Perhaps our generations-long infatuation with lettuce can finally come to an end?

Lettuce is not food. Lettuce is what food eats.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (NeM+a)

20 It has come to my attention that there are a lot of idiots posting stuff.

Posted by: GT 5.0 at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (TlmrZ)

21 Evening, horde!

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (aJQbY)

22 I saw Explosive Diarrhea open for Bloody Discharge back in the 70's at the Cow Palace.

How apropos.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (pyNYl)

23
Everybody relax, I'm here.

Posted by: Jack Burton at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (iqcvy)

24 "Thruller McConnell" looks like he's made out if wax. That was funny and disturbing at the same time, brining to fruition the SpongeBob meme.

I just love the way you are able to tie things together, Weird Dave.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (GX6fr)

25 Fresh drinks all round!"

Got any decent tonic water?

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 10:13 PM (XuXeR)

26 Lettuce is not food. Lettuce is what food eats.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (NeM+a)

Well, maybe if you eat rabbit, or tortoise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 10:13 PM (1z8ji)

27 1 Meow
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 17, 2026 09:59 PM (w3u3d)

That will NEVER not be funny.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:13 PM (GX6fr)

28 This is why we should have irradiated food. But noooo!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 10:14 PM (zZu0s)

29 I haven't picked up this diarrhea bug, and I eat a lot of sandwiches and salads over the summer. It helps to wash produce thoroughly, which I've always done. I haven't really kept up with the latest fear pron so maybe I'm missing something.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 17, 2026 10:14 PM (v9vY1)

30 Another fantastic Fri ONT WD

Zombie Mitch - that was a Michael Jackson vid, right? (Not a fan, but I seem to recall.)

Speaking of
https://bit.ly/mitch-granny

Posted by: mindful webworker - well, doggies! at July 17, 2026 10:14 PM (p+5Bi)

31 Well, maybe if you eat rabbit,"

Welsh?

/ yeah, I know...

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 10:14 PM (XuXeR)

32 Mitch McConnell is only sleeping, while he pines for the fjords.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 17, 2026 10:14 PM (NeM+a)

33 Reading through leftwing forums about the 150K duplicate voter registrations in Mich I am amused that while there are some "I need to see more prove of that" there are far more "who cares what happens 6 years ago the price of eggs is still to high!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 10:15 PM (sKqQm)

34 Isn't all diarrhea explosive?

I mean, if you really think about it.

*tip ur waiter*

Posted by: Otto Penn at July 17, 2026 10:15 PM (sJHOI)

35 Can we just get illegals to stop crapping on our produce when they are sick?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 10:16 PM (sKqQm)

36 Everybody relax, I'm here.

Posted by: Jack Burton

Sounds like trouble. Big trouble.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 17, 2026 10:17 PM (4HoLg)

37 Honesty
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- ONT WTF


Bulg was born a poor black child.....

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 10:17 PM (VHUov)

38 Honesty

______________________________

Parenting isn't necessarily hard. But, sometimes it's hard to keep a straight face and not do a fist pump when you realize when your kid gets his own place, he won't be putting up track lighting or waste away his weekends antiquing.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 10:18 PM (dIske)

39 Isn't all diarrhea explosive?
I mean, if you really think about it.
*tip ur waiter*
Posted by: Otto Penn


It's the better option, for sure.

You do not want implosive diarrhea.

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 10:18 PM (VHUov)

40 35 Can we just get illegals to stop crapping on our produce when they are sick?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 10:16 PM (sKqQm)

But it's still a free fire zone when we're healthy, right?

Posted by: Undocumented Aliens at July 17, 2026 10:18 PM (GX6fr)

41 Can we just get illegals to stop crapping on our produce when they are sick?
Posted by: 18-1


Pretty sure you could have left off the last four words.

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 10:19 PM (VHUov)

42 Ph'nglui mglw'nafh McConnell R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

IYKYK

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 17, 2026 10:19 PM (NeM+a)

43 Fresh drinks all round!"

Got any decent tonic water?
Posted by: man


* Hikes up label *

Posted by: the indecent tonic water at July 17, 2026 10:20 PM (VHUov)

44 So... which video earwormed you? For me, it was the Roomba puppy.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2026 10:20 PM (vTZFs)

45 OK the Odyssey meme is chuckle-worthy

Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 10:20 PM (ZxPkt)

46 You do not want implosive diarrhea.
Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 10:18 PM (VHUov)

Born a rhea, die a rhea.

Posted by: Large flightless bird at July 17, 2026 10:21 PM (1z8ji)

47 24 "Thruller McConnell" looks like he's made out if wax. That was funny and disturbing at the same time, brining to fruition the SpongeBob meme.

I just love the way you are able to tie things together, Weird Dave.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (GX6fr)

I can't force myself to watch the Mitch video, too disturbing.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 17, 2026 10:21 PM (y171U)

48 Watching the passengers disembark is a lot more entertaining when you land really high up.

Posted by: Pinochet at July 17, 2026 10:22 PM (GX6fr)

49 You know what winning is?

Winning is having your kid put YOU on HIS cellphone plan.

I am winning.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:22 PM (8dYl7)

50 Why do you think they call it produce... Pro-deuce!

Posted by: We doan need no steenking bachez! at July 17, 2026 10:23 PM (R0XxO)

51 You can't talk to a man
With a shotgun in his hand

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 10:24 PM (VQ0bX)

52 The best take on the Odyssey: https://tinyurl.com/mru2ezrz

Link goes to facebook reels

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 10:25 PM (sKqQm)

53 Forgive me, but why T F would you rescue a trash panda? Enjoy your rabies shots, genius....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 17, 2026 10:25 PM (6lIrI)

54 I saw in the NY Post the other day a video of a mutant racoon with a short spine and long legs like a dog (no tail). In Seattle. Super creepy.

Some think it got into drugs from the homeless,or food from the homeless (something about homeless) and mutated.

I hope I never see one, thanks. I hate the squirrel at our bird feeder every winter and that's enough wild kingdom for me. The deer herd in our front yard is fine and cute. Probably have ticks but I only see them in the winter in the snow.

Six years ago a huge white rat with a brown spot showed up on our patio. We were gardening and our toddler grandson asked if he could pet it. We said wut, then NO!, and freaked out at the same time. It almost got into the house with us when we ran inside. Thankfully it did not or I'd have to burn the house down. A trapper guy came and we think fed it to his snake. It tried to bite him through leather gloves, so a mean one. Probably from a lab in chy na.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 10:25 PM (hzuYO)

55 I can't force myself to watch the Mitch video, too disturbing.
Posted by: Joemarine at July 17, 2026 10:21 PM (y171U)

Not as disturbing as seeing him in the Senate.

(He had his moments e.g. keeping Garland off the SCOTUS, but those moments were too few and far between.)

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:25 PM (GX6fr)

56 If I start taking melatonin, can I qualify for Minority benefits ????

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 17, 2026 10:25 PM (xl8DV)

57 23 Everybody relax, I'm here.
Posted by: Jack Burton

Might need Ash Williams to put down some of our undead Senators

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 10:28 PM (gKWVE)

58 If AOC were to eat these poisoned veggies and shit her brains out.......

Her IQ would increase by 10 points at the very least.......

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 17, 2026 10:28 PM (xl8DV)

59 LETS GO MARINERS!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:28 PM (d+tIC)

60
I have spent over $1200 on Melatonin and now I know why my skin has not changed color.

It sure doesn't help me get to sleep.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 10:29 PM (Cqx++)

61 Is the gurney roll the new version of getting dropped on your head as a baby?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:29 PM (qx7Zg)

62 LETS GO MARINERS!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:28 PM (d+tIC)

Mariners or Marines?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:30 PM (qx7Zg)

63 Those titties may not cure cancer, but they'll sure cure something.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 17, 2026 10:32 PM (QaH55)

64 Heh. This is prolly cafe material:

https://tinyurl.com/45ceyarh

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 10:33 PM (2Ez/1)

65 *hic*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 10:33 PM (u/oMr)

66 Mariners or Marines?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:30 PM (qx7Zg)

(kicks leg of grill dejectedly) Sigh. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Posted by: Marinator at July 17, 2026 10:33 PM (1z8ji)

67 Is it even possible that pasta would be never ending?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 10:34 PM (u/oMr)

68 (He had his moments e.g. keeping Garland off the SCOTUS, but those moments were too few and far between.)

Posted by: tankdemon
---

He didn't do that for us he did it for Hillary.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 10:34 PM (VQ0bX)

69 62 LETS GO MARINERS!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:28 PM (d+tIC)

Mariners or Marines?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:30 PM (qx7Zg)

Nurse Ratched is a longtime and very vocal fan of her hometown baseball team.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:35 PM (GX6fr)

70 Y'all do realize that today's political discourse is really lame, right?

I've been saying this for YEARS. Today's "attack ads" are tame compared to the mudslinging of our early presidential elections.

Posted by: pookysgirl would rather have a boxing match at July 17, 2026 10:35 PM (5sJ0e)

71 Great ONT!
Love Mitch the THRILLER!

Anakin clip is my guilty favorite.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 10:35 PM (Pa7jv)

72 This is why we should have irradiated food. But noooo!
——

One aspect that would be super convenient, are things like ground Beef or steak. No refrigeration or freezing required, could be sold as shelf stable in mylar film packs. I know what i’d be bringing on those campouts and backpack trips. Holy smokes that would be awesome.

I read FDA (or whomever decides such things) considered allowing irradiated meats and similar years ago, but one consideration is the fact that high standards of cleanliness are maintained now (usually); and the concern is that this would all go to hell if beef producers were simply able to “zap” all the germs and filth away. Hm.

I think it’s legal for certain spices? Note to Karens - it does not cause food to be radioactive.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 10:36 PM (bbqHZ)

73 Is it even possible that pasta would be never ending?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 10:34 PM (u/oMr)

Moebius linguini would be kind of cool.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 10:37 PM (1z8ji)

74 Here's some Taco Bell diarrhea Trivia you might not know:

Those of us who have reached the age of 29 recall when Taco Bell used to top every taco with a sprinkling of green onions....That is until the great E-Coli outbreak across the country attributed to green onions. This was in 2006.

However, 3 years before that there was a Hepatitis A outbreak across the country. The ultimate cause was, you guessed it, green onions (from Mexico). Some restaurants such as Chi-Chi's never recovered from that one.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 10:37 PM (dIske)

75 LETS GO MARINERS!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:28 PM (d+tIC)

Mariners or Marines?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:30 PM (qx7Zg)

Nurse Ratched is a longtime and very vocal fan of her hometown baseball team.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:35 PM (GX6fr)

I was curious if she was rooting for baseball or her son (by typo).

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:37 PM (qx7Zg)

76 It tried to bite him through leather gloves, so a mean one. Probably from a lab in chy na.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 10:25 PM (hzuYO)

It was probably trying to tell you the Secret of NIMH.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 10:37 PM (Pa7jv)

77 I was looking at that voter ID map and was wondering, why haven't we combined Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire into one state with 2 senators and divided Texas into 3 states with 6 senators

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 10:37 PM (9CZQg)

78 Go ⚾ Mariners 🧭

Posted by: Rex B at July 17, 2026 10:38 PM (R0XxO)

79 Lil dude's honest at least.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 10:38 PM (Wnv9h)

80 or we could accept that lettuce sucks and has no nutrients, and leave it to the rabbits so we can grow something good

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 10:38 PM (gKWVE)

81 The Yankees catcher trotted around the bases and got thrown out at home on a Ben Rice double. The fat f*ck needs to get released.

Yes...they lost 2-1!

The Yankees have lost all sense of history, and all sense that baseball requires hustle. They are all too impressed with themselves that they are Yankees.

And that includes the manager and general manager.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 10:38 PM (l4RKn)

82 I've been saying this for YEARS. Today's "attack ads" are tame compared to the mudslinging of our early presidential elections.
——-

Bring back Duels while yer at it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 10:39 PM (bbqHZ)

83 Reading through leftwing forums about the 150K duplicate voter registrations in Mich I am amused that while there are some "I need to see more prove of that" there are far more "who cares what happens 6 years ago the price of eggs is still to high!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 10:15 PM (sKqQm)

You know when they deny that stuff happened it's because denying that stuff happened is fun. And when they ignore that stuff happened it's because ignoring stuff that happened is fun.

It turns out you can just say things.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 10:39 PM (vE0+H)

84 I was looking at that voter ID map and was wondering, why haven't we combined Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire into one state with 2 senators and divided Texas into 3 states with 6 senators
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 10:37 PM (9CZQg)

Merge Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts, and you are on!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:40 PM (qx7Zg)

85 Mariners or Marines?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


BOTH!

Beat the Giants!
Kill bad guys and break shit!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:40 PM (uaMaZ)

86 I've mentioned before that a rabid beaver attacked a paddleboarder, just a block down the road.

A warden with a Springfield Armory .45 dispatched the critter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 10:40 PM (XeU6L)

87 If AOC were to eat these poisoned veggies and shit her brains out.......

Her IQ would increase by 10 points at the very least.......

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 17, 2026 10:28 PM (xl8DV)

It would only take about half a second.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 10:41 PM (vE0+H)

88 68
He didn't do that for us he did it for Hillary.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 10:34 PM (VQ0bX)

Probably true, but, after such a public jilting, do you really think Hillary could have nominated anybody else?

Also, Garland later demonstrated that he definitely had no business being on the court, so even if his motives for killing his nomination were questionable, the fact he did kill the nomination still deserves recognition.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:41 PM (GX6fr)

89 Was over on X; Iran tonight is making some wild over the top threats, even by their standards. They’re saying that if the US doesn’t stop all attacks on Iran within the next 2 - 3 days, they’re going to Blow Up the World (or something like that)

And some wonder why they can’t be allowed to have nukes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 10:41 PM (Pa7jv)

90 and divided Texas into 3 states with 6 senators
Posted by: Lemmiwinks
----

And, Alaska?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 10:41 PM (XeU6L)

91
Reading about that hot staging Starship uses that is pretty risky and difficult, the reason is fuel efficiency. Elon is trying to squeeze every bit of that out he can.

With normal staging, you've got that coast phase between separation and then lighting the next stage. Gravity and some drag losses there. You can get 10% more payload with hot staging. Also, if you can use the fuel savings on the booster for the boost-back (if used), entry, and landing burns.

And it saves weight for the ullage motors needed on the next stages. And the control system for that.

So, difficult and risky, but doable. That's Elon.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 10:42 PM (w6EFb)

92 Moebius linguini would be kind of cool.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 10:37 PM

A Klein carafe of wine would be even cooler.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 10:42 PM (Wnv9h)

93 Has anyone in Thom Tillis' home state asked in he's against the SAVEAct because he'd lose if he couldn't cheat?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:42 PM (qx7Zg)

94 Peter Grant over at "Bayou Renaissance Man" wrote a post recently about a Japanese visitor's reaction to a Buc-ee's, and he linked the man's post on X:

https://tinyurl.com/938cnj4f

Tried to paste a snippet but Minx told me off. Minx is a sour unbeliever, apparently.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 17, 2026 10:42 PM (O7YUW)

95 Probably true, but, after such a public jilting, do you really think Hillary could have nominated anybody else?

Also, Garland later demonstrated that he definitely had no business being on the court, so even if his motives for killing his nomination were questionable, the fact he did kill the nomination still deserves recognition.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:41 PM (GX6fr)

Hillary was going to nominate a woman. McConnell never believed it would be Trump doing the replacement, or he wouldn't have blocked it for Hillary.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 10:42 PM (vE0+H)

96 ...what is an Odyssey?

It's when SHE-MAN stars in a movie who's even greater historical sequel (the Aeneid) proclaimed the eternal truth lost upon the LIBs,

He Spoke those words, though not with his Heart, his outward Smile concealed his inward Smart.

In satire. Seriously, who in their right mind would clambor aboard a horse with an abomination like that? except to note that the only common ground to be shared with a person like that is to put other there first, and then you shortly afterwards.


LET's GO BRANDON. TRiUMPh.
Defeat LIB Strategic Insanity Forever.

Cede Kharg ownership to Gulf States as Reparation
Reissue IRG Currency/Debank them
Impeach Brennan.
Depose Dimon.
Free Cuba.
US Shale

Simple enuf, no 10year Odyssey required.
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-nowYoureGettingIt

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at July 17, 2026 10:43 PM (0l6FT)

97 Beef and other foods can be irradiated. The very few people who do usually do it on frozen products. With the higher moisture and protein content of meats, it is very easy to develop off flavors if the radiation dose is not perfectly consistent. This is further complicated by packaging density (i.e. how much product is in the box. But you could never make fresh meat shelf stable. Also, it is exceedingly expensive. The regulatory requirements make irradiation units very expensive to operate.

Spices, on the other hand, are almost all irradiated as they tend to be rather filthy (bacterially speaking) in their raw/natural state.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 17, 2026 10:43 PM (6lIrI)

98 Can someone explain the Denmark/indian/VPN post?

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 10:44 PM (lCppi)

99 I saw Moebius Linguini open for Big Head Todd and the Monsters at the Florentine Gardens in '83.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 10:45 PM (u/oMr)

100 Moebius linguini would be kind of cool.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

A Klein carafe of wine would be even cooler.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


That's a lot of wine.

Posted by: the indecent tonic water at July 17, 2026 10:47 PM (VHUov)

101 Having lived in New Hampshire, I can tell you that they have little love for the people of Vermont. More often than not Vermont was referred to as the upside down New Hampshire Hippie Commune. Additionally, New Hampshire would not look forward to joining with any of those states. They still are hanging onto the "no state income tax".

Unfortunately, if without the carpetbaggers from Mass., Vermont, and even Maine, NH would be one (if not thee) most conservative state in the nation.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 10:47 PM (dIske)

102 Spices, on the other hand, are almost all irradiated as they tend to be rather filthy (bacterially speaking) in their raw/natural state.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 17, 2026 10:43 PM (6lIrI)

Spices do tend to be riddled with worms.

Posted by: Muad'Dib at July 17, 2026 10:47 PM (GX6fr)

103 At my age, this is as good as it gets.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 17, 2026 10:47 PM (9X60i)

104 Can someone explain the Denmark/indian/VPN post?
Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 10:44 PM (lCppi)

The idiot made his original post from India, instead of Denmark. (The flag gives it away.) Realizing he made a mistake, he found out he couldn't fix it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2026 10:48 PM (qx7Zg)

105 Can someone explain the Denmark/indian/VPN post?
Posted by: LASue


The little flags by the usernames show where you're posting from.

Using a VPN lets you look like you're posting from somewhere you aren't.

Indian guy in posts #1 and #3 forgot to set his VPN to "Denmark" before trolling.

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 10:49 PM (VHUov)

106 98 Can someone explain the Denmark/indian/VPN post?
Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 10:44 PM (lCppi)

The original post was actually an Indian pretending to be from Denmark. The flag on the post gave him away. The comment pointed out that he had forgotten to use a VPN to forge his location and everybody could tell he was really posting from India.

Posted by: Muad'Dib at July 17, 2026 10:49 PM (GX6fr)

107 Oh! Hahaha Thanks

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (lCppi)

108
Having lived in New Hampshire, I can tell you that they have little love for the people of Vermont.

___________

Principal product of the state: smugness

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (O0L8i)

109 Off, Dune sock!

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (GX6fr)

110 The original post was actually an Indian pretending to be from Denmark. The flag on the post gave him away. The comment pointed out that he had forgotten to use a VPN to forge his location and everybody could tell he was really posting from India.

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Never explain a joke.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (u/oMr)

111 Can someone explain the Denmark/indian/VPN post?

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 10:44 PM (lCppi

Glad I'm not the only one.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (S41Gd)

112 96 ...what is an Odyssey?


A mini-van. I think Honda makes them.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 17, 2026 10:51 PM (v9vY1)

113 98 Can someone explain the Denmark/indian/VPN post?
Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 10:44 PM (nobody!

The Indian guy was trying to demoralize the white dudes in Denmark and start a whisper campaign to score himself. He meant to post as a dane, bemoaning all the ladies he was losing to Indians.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 10:52 PM (zZu0s)

114 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 17, 2026 10:52 PM (+9wcF)

115 Never explain a joke.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (u/oMr)

Why not?

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 10:53 PM (vE0+H)

116 I'm sure regulatory nonsense would do what it normally does to prices, but why wouldn't something similar to those 'UV-cleaning' boxes from the Covid days work? Or at least help? Those weren't super-expensive...

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:53 PM (aJQbY)

117

INDIANAPOLIS — A food truck is no longer welcome to serve at a weekly Indianapolis market, all because of its slogan.

The debacle started last week when the State Personnel Department emailed Smash Daddy’s owner, Scott Sims. The email said employees received complaints over the truck’s slogan and therefore was revoking the truck’s participation in its last two selling slots of the season.

Sims has used the slogan “you’ll love our meat in your mouth” for the last two years with Smash Daddy’s and for about 15 years with his former restaurant, Between the Bun. While he’s fully aware the message could be taken in a couple of ways, he said it’s always been received well for the most part.

https://t.ly/d_BL0

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 10:53 PM (Cqx++)

118 >> Posted by: Common Tater

If you're still thinking about the horizon on the Apollo 8-balls, I was thinking about the best way to put that. It just happens to be the XY plane of however the IMY gyros were aligned at the time. This gave them a local reference for pitch, yaw, and roll relative to those given coordinates.

Think of it as just the current reference plane being used, not corresponding to anything real. The gyros would drift over the course of the missions, and they had to realign then via sighting stars.

When they did that, it was easiest to just let the current reference axes be what they were, and the star fix just figured out exactly how they were aligned relative to the master coordinate system being used for the mission. Which was something very similar to the current standard ECI frame.

You needed to point your engines and RCS in the right direction. The 8-balls just gave a local reference for that alignment.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 10:54 PM (w6EFb)

119 https://tinyurl.com/938cnj4f

That poster Nobunaga is hilarious! I’ve been following him. The whole post is fantastic, these are just the closing lines of his epic visit to Buc-ee’s:

I did not need any of it.

I needed all of it.

I have walked through the great cathedrals of the old world. I lit no candle there.

I lit no candle at Buc-ee's either.

But I did fill the truck.

And I understand now that in Texas, this is the same thing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 10:54 PM (Pa7jv)

120 Yeah WD ONT!!

Weekend ProNational Motocross generates a LOT of traffic. Monster RVs with trailers zooming past my place all this week

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at July 17, 2026 10:54 PM (Or9o8)

121 110 Never explain a joke.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (u/oMr)

Come to think of it, my parents never did tell me how they decided on my name...

Posted by: tankdemon at July 17, 2026 10:54 PM (GX6fr)

122 I used to eat raw hamburger meat when I was a kid when my dad made meatballs. I wouldn't think about doing it today even for a large amount of money.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 10:55 PM (/WQyy)

123 Am I allowed to gripe about people bringing their ill-behaved dogs to hotels or is that hypocritical given that we travel with a (very well-behaved) service dog?

Posted by: pookysgirl, curious as always at July 17, 2026 10:56 PM (5sJ0e)

124 The debacle started last week when the State Personnel Department emailed Smash Daddy’s owner, Scott Sims. The email said employees received complaints over the truck’s slogan and therefore was revoking the truck’s participation in its last two selling slots of the season.

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My suggested letter to the State Personnel Dept: So you c*cksuckers resent my slogan's implication? Sounds like a personal problem...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 17, 2026 10:57 PM (6lIrI)

125 Btw, while this week has had its disappointments in the Great Job Hunt, I still have one active in the process and one pending initial interview early next week (I'm hoping that one goes right - would be a great fit and WFH and better pay). And I continue to pray and search.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:57 PM (aJQbY)

126 Principal product of the state: smugness
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 10:50 PM (O0L8i)
_____________________

And rules. Don't know if they still have it, but Vermont had a state law that stated you couldn't let your grass exceed 3 inches. They, also, outlawed Billboards. New Hampshire thought this was hilarious and purposefully put up billboards right at the Vermont border on I-89. The Vermont governor was whining about it, which is exactly the responjse the New Hampshire DOT was hoping for.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 10:57 PM (dIske)

127 Sims has used the slogan “you’ll love our meat in your mouth” for the last two years with Smash Daddy’s and for about 15 years with his former restaurant, Between the Bun. While he’s fully aware the message could be taken in a couple of ways, he said it’s always been received well for the most part.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


The Leftist Bill of Rights:

1) You have the right not to be offended by anyone with more Privilege than you.

2) That's it, actually.

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 10:57 PM (VHUov)

128 pookysgirl, I think you're allowed - your dog is trained, and even if it didn't have service training, I'm sure you'd have it taught manners

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:58 PM (aJQbY)

129 https://tinyurl.com/938cnj4f

That poster Nobunaga is hilarious! I’ve been following him. The whole post is fantastic, these are just the closing lines of his epic visit to Buc-ee’s:

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 10:54 PM (Pa7jv)

Yeah, he's pretty damn funny.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 10:59 PM (S41Gd)

130 Nobunaga is hilarious - and he's got a blog now!
https://wandering-nobunaga.com/

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:59 PM (aJQbY)

131 Happy Friday, all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Critically Critical Critic . . . at July 17, 2026 11:00 PM (3ZUWJ)

132 saw Explosive Diarrhea open for Bloody Discharge back in the 70's at the Cow Palace.

How apropos.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2026 10:11 PM (pyNYl)

*****
I was there!
I remember that fancy van in the parking lot that had all four wheels stolen off it.

Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2026 11:01 PM (lvBTI)

133 Gripe away Pooky's Girl

I'm always griping about the female idiots who bring their 'emotional support' Chihuahuas into the store. Then there is their boyfriends who allow it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:02 PM (2GVsD)

134 127 The Leftist Bill of Rights:

1) You have the right not to be offended by anyone with more Privilege than you.

2) That's it, actually.
Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 10:57 PM (VHUov)

I am in favor of giving libs all the rights they can handle.
And a bunch of lefts too.

Posted by: Rockem Sockem Robot at July 17, 2026 11:02 PM (GX6fr)

135 MAGA on suicide watch as Odyssey on track to break records.

How does the saying go again…Go Woke make $1B box office.

Lol

Posted by: Lol at July 17, 2026 11:02 PM (ksN23)

136 Troll... troll in the ONT... thought you ought to know

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 11:03 PM (aJQbY)

137 Am I allowed to gripe about people bringing their ill-behaved dogs to hotels or is that hypocritical given that we travel with a (very well-behaved) service dog?
Posted by: pookysgirl, curious as always


Yes, indeedy ...

You are not allowed to shiv the ill-behaved owners, though.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Adriane the Critically Critical Critic . . . at July 17, 2026 11:03 PM (3ZUWJ)

138 Those flags on the whateveritwas app are so blurry here I couldn't tell what they were.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 11:03 PM (Cqx++)

139 125 Btw, while this week has had its disappointments in the Great Job Hunt, I still have one active in the process and one pending initial interview early next week (I'm hoping that one goes right - would be a great fit and WFH and better pay). And I continue to pray and search.
Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:57 PM (aJQbY)


Prayers THIS is the one! XXXX

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 11:03 PM (hzuYO)

140 I'm sure you'd have it taught manners

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:58 PM (aJQbY)

If Pooky hadn't, I would've. I got both of our cats trained to not bat at or chew on my yarn while I was knitting, even when they were in my lap.

Posted by: pookysgirl gets animals at July 17, 2026 11:04 PM (5sJ0e)

141 That poster Nobunaga is hilarious! I’ve been following him. The whole post is fantastic, these are just the closing lines of his epic visit to Buc-ee’s:

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 10:54 PM (Pa7jv)
___

I follow him too.

And yes, that was hilarious.

He's also not shy about his views on China.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:04 PM (zhuhT)

142 For Piper

https://youtu.be/48Xrwn8Gsc8

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:05 PM (2GVsD)

143 Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:57 PM (aJQbY)

Oy. May things turn around for you, soonest.

Posted by: Adriane the Critically Critical Critic . . . at July 17, 2026 11:06 PM (3ZUWJ)

144 How does the saying go again…Go Woke make $1B box office.

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You know what this means, right?

DOUBLE DOWN, HOLLYWOOD!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 11:06 PM (u/oMr)

145 Speaking of not getting jokes:

Can someone please explain the "You have died of explosive diarrhea" one? With the ox pulling the covered wagon?

Does it have something to do with the dinosaur game they want you to play, when they're trying to connect you to an internet site?

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:07 PM (RCjYY)

146 Does it have something to do with the dinosaur game they want you to play, when they're trying to connect you to an internet site?

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:07 PM (RCjYY)

I will be the first of five or so people to do so. Oregon Trail. Old DOS game. Famous line from it is you have died of dysentery.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:08 PM (vE0+H)

147 Pookysgirl,

A friend of mine had to put down her seeing eye dog after it was attacked by a “service dog” at the airport.

It was very sad. And infuriating.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:09 PM (cnePD)

148 145 Speaking of not getting jokes:

Can someone please explain the "You have died of explosive diarrhea" one? With the ox pulling the covered wagon?

Does it have something to do with the dinosaur game they want you to play, when they're trying to connect you to an internet site?
Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:07 PM (RCjYY)

It refers to Oregon Trail, a game played in the 80s on Apple 2cs all the way through until today.

Posted by: Bilwis - at July 17, 2026 11:10 PM (w/O5Q)

149 MNW

It was a computer game from the early days called Oregon Trail which became a meme before the Internet because more often than not that is exactly what you died of.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:10 PM (2GVsD)

150 I will be the first of five or so people to do so. Oregon Trail. Old DOS game. Famous line from it is you have died of dysentery.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:08 PM (vE0+H)
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And instead of dysentery, you died of explosive diarrhea from contaminated lettuce at Taco Bell.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:10 PM (zhuhT)

151 I will be the first of five or so people to do so. Oregon Trail. Old DOS game. Famous line from it is you have died of dysentery.

--------

For what it's worth, it's better than being eaten by a grue.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 11:10 PM (u/oMr)

152 mnw, it's Oregon Trail. Kids had that game on school computers in the 1980s. The idea was to teach logistics.
It was common for the settlers on that game, if not on the real trail to be told YOU HAVE DIED OF DYSENTERY.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 11:11 PM (gKWVE)

153 146 elipsis "..."

Thank you.

No wonder I didn't get it.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:11 PM (RCjYY)

154 I thought it was spelled Gru?

Wizardry the anime
https://youtu.be/7NV6PcZ5e4o

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:12 PM (2GVsD)

155 Odyssey made 117 million domestically so far. Only needs another 258 million to break even.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 11:12 PM (/WQyy)

156 SMH!

Love to you and ex ex.

Imma be a grandma!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:12 PM (cnePD)

157 Winning is having your kid put YOU on HIS cellphone plan.

I am winning.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:22 PM (8dYl7)

Jealous. It's been years and both are still on my plan. Inertia is a terrible thing to waste.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 17, 2026 11:12 PM (sl73Y)

158 Polynikes

That is without the marketing budget or with?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:13 PM (2GVsD)

159 Imma be a grandma!

Congratulations, nurse!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 17, 2026 11:13 PM (+9wcF)

160 Thx to everyone who explained the Oregon Trail game joke.

I thought pong was too complex to understand.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:14 PM (RCjYY)

161 nurse!!!

Love you too!

I know! Congrats!
You're gonna trip out bigly when you hold your baby's baby for the first time.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:14 PM (zhuhT)

162 Made it home

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 11:15 PM (Ia/+0)

163 Good evening! Hope everyone is well.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:15 PM (Dd38x)

164 I'll be damned... the Royals won despite bullpen efforts to the contrary.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 17, 2026 11:15 PM (6lIrI)

165 Oh no! You have fallen down a pit and broken every bone in your body.
*** YOU DIED ***
(R)estore, (S)tart Over, (Q)uit?

Posted by: Scott Adams at July 17, 2026 11:15 PM (gKWVE)

166 There were two "working dogs" at our last hotel, and they didn't misbehave other than a few barks at JT when they saw him. (I don't know what they were for, they had vests, were German shepherds, and their handlers had semi-professional outfits on.) We also ran into a family with a black lab with a harness but no vest, and he did *not* want to make friends with JT. (Which was weird, because EVERYONE wants to be JT's friend.)

But here... There's a dog across the hallway that's barking occasionally enough to bother us but not enough for me to call the front desk.

Is the explosion of dog travel my imagination?

Posted by: pookysgirl, waiting out her pills at July 17, 2026 11:15 PM (5sJ0e)

167 Buccee's couldn't have bought advertising better than the world cup. All that world exposure for free. All because they provide q dang fine product.

Would that other companies fell in with this mind set.

Posted by: moki at July 17, 2026 11:16 PM (wLjpr)

168 Ah, Oregon Trail. We learned geography, logistics, and how to lead your target. Very educational!

And Zork... we learned... plugh and xyzzy? No, that was Adventure. We learned that we are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike. Or all different.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 11:16 PM (aJQbY)

169 Howdy, Piper!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 17, 2026 11:17 PM (6lIrI)

170 “Yes, fresh beef can be made shelf-stable without refrigeration using irradiation combined with suitable packaging, a process often referred to as "radappertization". This requires sealing the meat in a vacuum or an oxygen-free, hermetic package and applying a high dose of ionizing radiation (over 10 kGy) to completely sterilize it”

Fwiw, from USDA. It horks the color and flavor, however. Drat!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:17 PM (oFj7+)

171 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:13 PM (2GVsD)

With.

250 million to make. 125 million marketing.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 11:17 PM (/WQyy)

172 I saw a clip of an otter killing an alligator

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 17, 2026 11:18 PM (WL2lA)

173 Jealous. It's been years and both are still on my plan. Inertia is a terrible thing to waste.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 17, 2026 11:12 PM (sl73Y)
__

Youngest daughter is still on Ex-Ex's. No biggie.

He bought a new phone a week ago, and she's over the moon with his old one. She got a decent upgrade.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:18 PM (zhuhT)

174 142 For Piper

https://youtu.be/48Xrwn8Gsc8
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:05 PM (2GVsD)

Not Cinnamon!

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:18 PM (Dd38x)

175 155 poly

For a film to break even, the rule of thumb is that it has to make TWICE the cost of filming it, i.e., the film's budget.

That's because of post-production costs (distribution costs; advertising; others).

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:18 PM (RCjYY)

176 Also thus made me lol

x.com/hellraz0r1776/status/
2078258273187168485

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 17, 2026 11:19 PM (WL2lA)

177 154 I thought it was spelled Gru?

M e r k l e

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:19 PM (xHEjv)

178 There's a Love Boat episode on where Bruce Jenner is playing a dude.

Is that weird or what?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2026 11:19 PM (u/oMr)

179 Years ago, in the old house, I heard something in the dining room late at night. Went in to check and there was a possum on my great-grandmother's oak sideboard digging into a bag of Chip's A Hoy left there by one of the kids.
It took us two hours to finally catch it and release it waaay down the alley.
Man, they are disgusting.
And they really do play dead. Had to poke it with a broom handle from on top of the bookcase to get it moving again.

Posted by: sal at July 17, 2026 11:20 PM (f+FmA)

180 169 Howdy, Piper!
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July

Hi!

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:20 PM (Dd38x)

181 A friend of mine had to put down her seeing eye dog after it was attacked by a “service dog” at the airport.

It was very sad. And infuriating.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:09 PM (cnePD)

That's awful. Normally I'm not litigious, but I'd be pushing for a lawsuit, especially if it happened to Pooky/JT. We're careful what dogs are allowed near him, and our neighbor's pit bull mixes are *not* on the list.

Posted by: pookysgirl gets nervous around those dogs at July 17, 2026 11:20 PM (5sJ0e)

182 so even if his motives for killing his nomination were questionable, the fact he did kill the nomination still deserves recognition.

Posted by: tankdemon
---

After what he did to Thad Cochran (and for sure others) he will soon get the recognition he deserves.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:21 PM (xHEjv)

183 Hollyweird has some serious jiggery-pokery going on when it applies to accounting, is my understanding

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:21 PM (oFj7+)

184 I thought you might be amused by it Piper.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:21 PM (2GVsD)

185 156 SMH!

Love to you and ex ex.

Imma be a grandma!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:12 PM (cnePD)

Congratulations! It's the best thing to happen in life other than your own boys. We love them the same, so we have five kids plus two DIL's we also love.

Our son in FL has plans that I hope are soon. The three we have here are pure joy! Don't know how we survived without them...and to have two girls in my life is awesome!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 11:22 PM (hzuYO)

186 183 Hollyweird has some serious jiggery-pokery going on when it applies to accounting, is my understanding
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:21 PM (oFj7+)

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That's what it's all about.

Posted by: Price Waterhouse at July 17, 2026 11:22 PM (u/oMr)

187 Nope.

Will not, cannot watch zombie Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:22 PM (zhuhT)

188 Hollyweird has some serious jiggery-pokery going on when it applies to accounting, is my understanding
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:21 PM (oFj7+)

Most definitely. They will make their money internationally though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 11:22 PM (/WQyy)

189 Granny Clampett and the Turtle look suspiciously alike.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:23 PM (2GVsD)

190 Fwiw, from USDA. It horks the color and flavor, however. Drat!

And MREs don't?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:24 PM (2GVsD)

191 For what it's worth, it's better than being eaten by a grue.
Posted by: Cicero


This might belong on last night's whelming ONT, but how is it that we describe things as "gruesome," but never use the root word "grue" outside of references to some old text adventure games?

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 11:24 PM (VHUov)

192 ☺️ SMH ☺️

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:24 PM (vE0+H)

193 They won't make any money off the Greeks I fear.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:24 PM (2GVsD)

194 Cinnamon Nobunaga looks fun!

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 11:25 PM (aJQbY)

195 89 Was over on X; Iran tonight is making some wild over the top threats, even by their standards. They’re saying that if the US doesn’t stop all attacks on Iran within the next 2 - 3 days, they’re going to Blow Up the World (or something like that)

And some wonder why they can’t be allowed to have nukes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 10:41 PM (Pa7jv

We are going to steal the moon! - Iran

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:25 PM (Dd38x)

196 Can someone please explain to me the Anikin star wars video?

Posted by: KarlHungus at July 17, 2026 11:26 PM (x2aJd)

197 Might be why MREs are... MREs. Something about the rads kills all 'good tasting-ness'?

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 11:26 PM (aJQbY)

198 Hey Ellipsis!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:26 PM (zhuhT)

199 Iran has been threatening to blow up the world since the Mullahs took over in 1979.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:26 PM (2GVsD)

200 We are going to steal the moon! - Iran

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:25 PM (Dd38x)

We will behead you a thousand times. -Iran

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:27 PM (vE0+H)

201
There's a Love Boat episode on where Bruce Jenner is playing a dude.

Is that weird or what?
Posted by: Cicero


He should have won an Emmy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 11:27 PM (Cqx++)

202

I did see your post the other night, late.

Thank you. You’re very sweet. I appreciate you.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:28 PM (Tjd07)

203 Might be why MREs are... MREs. Something about the rads kills all 'good tasting-ness'?
Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 11:26 PM (aJQbY)
___

Chili mac wasn't too bad.

Especially with the jalapeno cheese and hot sauce.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:28 PM (zhuhT)

204 Cinnamon is just a funny goofy series.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:28 PM (2GVsD)

205 Congrats, Nurse!
Grandkids are the best! Such a unique relationship.
The three oldest are coming to visit tomorrow, before heading off to and back to college, and work. Can't wait.

Posted by: sal at July 17, 2026 11:28 PM (f+FmA)

206 That's what it's all about.
Posted by: Price Waterhouse
---------

Doesn't always work out.

Posted by: Arthur Andersen at July 17, 2026 11:28 PM (XeU6L)

207 vmon, status 2078068560404894142 is good on that site too :^x

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 11:29 PM (gKWVE)

208 128 pookysgirl, I think you're allowed - your dog is trained, and even if it didn't have service training, I'm sure you'd have it taught manners
Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 10:58 PM (aJQbY

Even my Shiba has manners. And he is a Shiba!

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:30 PM (Dd38x)

209 Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:28 PM (Tjd07)

Thanks for letting me know. You are welcome. {{nr}}

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:30 PM (vE0+H)

210 Everyone have a good night

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 11:30 PM (Ia/+0)

211 Hollyweird has some serious jiggery-pokery going on when it applies to accounting, is my understanding
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I think you're right. How else are we all (who are paying attention--which isn't a lot of us, but nevertheless) supposed to explain why Hollywood is seemingly ok with turning out a steady stream of unprofitable clunkers?

IF it bothered the industry, the industry would put an end to that.

Yet...they don't.

Doesn't that make you wonder?

Posted by: Crusader at July 17, 2026 11:30 PM (Cjcf6)

212 Congrats, Nurse!!!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 17, 2026 11:30 PM (WL2lA)

213 KarlHungus, he used AI to give Queen Hershlag the floatation devices worthy of a Jewish princess

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 11:31 PM (gKWVE)

214 183 Hollyweird has some serious jiggery-pokery going on when it applies to accounting, is my understanding

Posted by: Common Tater
---

That'$ what it'$ all about isn't it?
For all those good and crazy people, your friends! $
Those good and crazy people, your friends! $
And that'$ what it's all about, i$n't it?
That's what it'$ really about, i$n't it?
That's what it'$ really about,
Really about!
$$$

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:31 PM (xHEjv)

215 Are you all settled in the new house, SMH?

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:31 PM (Dd38x)

216 The people of Iran have been lied to for so long, I suspect they ignore claims of great victories by the regime.

During WW I, current Swiss newspapers were worth their weight in gold on BOTH sides of the front lines.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:31 PM (RCjYY)

217
Omg you'll never guess who's no ways tahrd.

https://x.com/i/status/
2078297825020932587

"We cannot afford ta leaned

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 17, 2026 11:31 PM (mmrXZ)

218
Woops

"We cannot afford ta leave Tennessee bahahnd!"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 17, 2026 11:32 PM (mmrXZ)

219 LETS GO MARINERS!
Posted by: nurse ratched

That Eldridge kid sure has some serious plate coverage.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 17, 2026 11:33 PM (DZ9Lv)

220 All your baklava will belong to us! - Iran

Posted by: Adriane the Critically Critical Critic . . . at July 17, 2026 11:33 PM (3ZUWJ)

221 This is awesome

x.com/sappholives83/status/
2078042055104766057

".. as a 77 year old grandmother, was withdrawing cash from an ATM in Bromborough, Wirral, she was set upon by three men who wanted to rob her.

The men, Romanian nationals , thought Peel an easy target, but they were badly mistaken. Instead, she administered a well-deserved beating, slamming one of them headfirst into the ATM multiple times and sending the trio running.

In fact, she did such a thorough job of kicking his arse that his injuries later helped police to identify them. "

(not awesome is the 3 rec'd minor time but were not deported from the UK)

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 17, 2026 11:34 PM (7gFa4)

222 We are going to steal the moon! - Iran
-
Amateurs

Posted by: Chairface Chippendale at July 17, 2026 11:35 PM (vSvIl)

223
Hollyweird has some serious jiggery-pokery going on when it applies to accounting, is my understanding

Springtime for Hitler

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 11:35 PM (Cqx++)

224 And MREs don't?
——

MRE entrees are retorts, cooked in the bag, basically. When they are “Fresh” the color and texture isn’t too bad. Some, not all, are quite tasty actually. The off flavor is mostly due to the quality of the ingredients, I expect. I don’t think irradiation is part of the routine. Maybe.

“Meat glue” means Beef Stew no longer uses stew meat, rather, “chunked and formed” scraps are molded together. Dinty Moore is the same. Hormel Chili w/beef is the same. Nasty!

I buy Bushes Chili beans - pintos, and cook my own beef or sausage. Not great but pretty decent for a quick nutritious meal.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:36 PM (oFj7+)

225 Do more than write CHA on it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 11:36 PM (Cqx++)

226 218
Woops

"We cannot afford ta leave Tennessee bahahnd!"
---

She's got a play on that big juicy booty.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:36 PM (xHEjv)

227 218
Woops

"We cannot afford ta leave Tennessee bahahnd!"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 17, 2026

Oh my stars….

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:37 PM (Dd38x)

228 223

Mel Brooks joked that Avgo's motto was, "We make the money. You try to find it!"

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:39 PM (RCjYY)

229 147 Pookysgirl,

A friend of mine had to put down her seeing eye dog after it was attacked by a “service dog” at the airport.

It was very sad. And infuriating.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:09 PM (cnePD)

Guy I used to work with was always talking about killing cats. I told him if he killed my cat, I'd kill him. He ceased talking in that manner.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 17, 2026 11:40 PM (QaH55)

230 During WW I, current Swiss newspapers were worth their weight in gold on BOTH sides of the front lines.
——

The 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic was called that, because most countries including the U.S. censored reporting of it. Spain did not. So the story goes, anyhow.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:40 PM (oFj7+)

231 Guy I used to work with was always talking about killing cats.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder


And he probably didn't even eat them.

Posted by: a Haitian "refugee" at July 17, 2026 11:41 PM (VHUov)

232 There’s some impressive pictures circulating of the harbor control tower that the US blew up today, including one where it’s falling. It was a big modern one, much like an airport control tower.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 11:41 PM (Pa7jv)

233 Are you all settled in the new house, SMH?
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:31 PM (Dd38x)
___

Yep, pretty much.

Even put in a new gas stove.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:42 PM (zhuhT)

234
The first cases of Spanish flu most likely happened in Kansas around Fort Riley in March 1918. Cases then appeared in France and Germany in April.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 11:43 PM (w6EFb)

235 230

That's interesting. I don't understand why the U.S. would want to suppress news about the Spanish Flu.

IIRC, the Spanish Flu hit right after the war was over. I could be wrong.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:44 PM (RCjYY)

236 Should have called it the Kansas City Flu

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 11:45 PM (Cqx++)

237 Roy Clark & Gatemouth Brown

'Caldonia'

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowKN_pzbtI

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:45 PM (xHEjv)

238 Can someone please explain to me the Anikin star wars video?

Posted by: KarlHungus at July 17, 2026 11:26 PM (x2aJd)


It was more important to give her bigger tits than to cure cancer.

I struggle with that decision. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:45 PM (S41Gd)

239
Speaking of pathogens, I was reading some research they're doing on how pathogenic organisms would do with space travel, specifically Mars. While apparently all the organisms they're looking at it would survive Mars conditions for too long, the adaptations they appear to make in trying to survive might make then more pathogenic to humans.

So Mars might be a Gain of Function environment for the nasties.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 11:46 PM (w6EFb)

240 Mariners bullpen sucks balls.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 11:46 PM (yEz+x)

241 And he probably didn't even eat them.
Posted by: a Haitian "refugee" at July 17, 2026 11:41 PM (VHUov)

He was not, in fact, Chinese. Did have kinda slanty eyes, though...

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 17, 2026 11:47 PM (QaH55)

242
So Mars might be a Gain of Function environment for the nasties.
Posted by: publius


The place to develop the next Andromeda Strain.
Or Satan Bug.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 11:49 PM (Cqx++)

243 It certainly got spooled up at Ft. Reilly, but there is some question whether it actually originated in the area. There is also some scsnt evidence it may have actually started in Iowa.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:49 PM (oFj7+)

244
196 Can someone please explain to me the Anikin star wars video?
Posted by: KarlHungus at July 17, 2026 11:26 PM (x2aJd)

It’s an inverse shaggy dog story; the last 10 seconds are the only part that matters.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 11:51 PM (Pa7jv)

245 publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Western Kansas at first. In a farm where the livestock (esp. pigs) were in the house. Then to Ft. Riley.

After that, standards of animal husbandry were changed in the US.
Not in China, which is why they start so many flu epidemics.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 17, 2026 11:51 PM (u82oZ)

246 The problem with suppressing bad news is, it leads to widespread rumors which are often worse than the bad news.

In WW I, it was a commonplace saying in Britain, "If you want to know how the war's really going, don't bother to read the news. Read the casualty reports."

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:51 PM (RCjYY)

247 There’s some impressive pictures circulating of the harbor control tower that the US blew up today, including one where it’s falling. It was a big modern one, much like an airport control tower.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 11:41 PM (Pa7jv)


Hopefully this is operation "break all their shit"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:51 PM (S41Gd)

248 233 Are you all settled in the new house, SMH?
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:31 PM (Dd38x)
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Yep, pretty much.

Even put in a new gas stove.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:42 PM

Awesome! Are we old when things like new ovens are really exciting?

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:52 PM (Dd38x)

249 So Mars might be a Gain of Function environment for the nasties.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 11:46 PM (w6EFb)

Whelp... I'd like to Gain of Function Deja Thoris... sooo

Posted by: Supremes Birthright Citizenship Ruling at July 17, 2026 11:52 PM (mP0Kj)

250 Posted by: Supremes Birthright Citizenship Ruling at July 17, 2026 11:52 PM (mP0Kj)

Sockioso...

/flick and swish

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 11:53 PM (mP0Kj)

251 Continuing the Aviation cocktail thread from previous ONTs, where fellow Moron frammish taste-tested the standard recipe against one with a triple dose of creme de violette, after I stated that would make it taste more like Chanel #5:

Maybe I'll have to give this a try, too.
Posted by: mikeski
If you do, please let me know what you think!
Posted by: frammish


So, I tried the same thing. Not as horrible as I remember it being. I think the normal 1/4oz dose still makes for a more-balanced cocktail. The triple-violette one isn't perfume, but it's too one-note. Though it is certainly more blue-colored.

A faint soap-like aftertaste too. I wonder if that's related to people who think cilantro tastes soapy. (I do.) That's a genetic thing, not an acquired-taste thing. Maybe similar chemicals in both plants.

Disclaimer: neither drink was really well-balanced. The lemon came through hard in both of them; I guess I grabbed a really sour lemon at the store.

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 11:53 PM (VHUov)

252 Oh wow, it’s late! Good night, y’all,

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:53 PM (Dd38x)

253 Tom Servo
Hopefully this is operation "break all their shit"
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

The US is isolating ports which import food to the entire country from the mass of Iranian population. An airpower siege tactic.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 17, 2026 11:54 PM (u82oZ)

254 Mariners bullpen sucks balls.
Posted by: nurse ratched


They do have a plethora of them.....

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 11:55 PM (VHUov)

255 Hi, Salty

You arrived just as I'm leaving. I'm off to watch the 31st, and last, episode of "The Borgias."

Such utter trash. I really like it!

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 11:55 PM (RCjYY)

256 mnw

Have fun! I still have no TV or cable signal to the house.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 17, 2026 11:56 PM (u82oZ)

257 106 98 Can someone explain the Denmark/indian/VPN post?
Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 10:44 PM (lCppi)

The original post was actually an Indian pretending to be from Denmark. The flag on the post gave him away. The comment pointed out that he had forgotten to use a VPN to forge his location and everybody could tell he was really posting from India.

Posted by: Muad'Dib at July 17, 2026 10:49 PM (GX6fr)

---

In addition, he was pretending to be a Dane who was upset that Danish women prefer Indian men. But he was exposed, in a comical way, to be an Indian man making shit up.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 11:56 PM (9CZQg)

258 a Japanese visitor's reaction to a Buc-ee's…
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant


Of all the many reactions by visitors to America, this may be my favorite. At least in the top 5.

Posted by: mindful webworker - proud t'be n 'Merican at July 17, 2026 11:57 PM (p+5Bi)

259 John Wilkes is fuckin savage

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 11:57 PM (9CZQg)

260 In addition, he was pretending to be a Dane who was upset that Danish women prefer Indian men. But he was exposed, in a comical way, to be an Indian man making shit up.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks


The difference between a shitposting and a shit posting.

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 11:58 PM (VHUov)

261 Hopefully this is operation "break all their shit"
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:51 PM (S41Gd)
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Works for me.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:58 PM (zhuhT)

262
243 It certainly got spooled up at Ft. Reilly, but there is some question whether it actually originated in the area. There is also some scsnt evidence it may have actually started in Iowa.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:49 PM (oFj7+)

The Great Influenza is the best book ever written on the topic, and the author did a lot of work hunting down evidence and timelines. He found the records of a rural doctor in backwoods Kansas who kept meticulous notes, and was writing about a strange new fatal illness he was starting to see about 6 months before the Ft Riley outbreak.

It was a uniquely perverse disease; it triggered a massive immune system overreaction, and this is what killed its victims. Which meant that those *most* likely to die were healthy adults in their 20’s and 30’s with strong immune systems - many died within 2 - 3 days of the first symptom.
And yet those who were old, and sick, or had compromised immune systems often survived.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 11:59 PM (Pa7jv)

263 261 Hopefully this is operation "break all their shit"
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:51 PM (S41Gd)
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Works for me.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 17, 2026 11:58 PM (zhuhT)

Been saying for years, if they want to act like Barbarians from 630 AD... let them... bomb them back.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 11:59 PM (mP0Kj)

264 Birds, particularly migratory waterfowl, do not respect political boundaries. They are a huge “reservoir” of viruses. Close contact with humans, and other critters means when they mutate they csn jump back and forth between species and maybe mutate again. That’s what “gain of function” is about.

Purposely infecting animals to see what promising mutations develop over many iterations, and infecting a different species, culling the most promising mutations. Accelerating rapidly this process, back and forth. Some viruses affect only humans, some only animals. But a new mutation or “novel” virus, humans have no natural immunity.

The 1918 virus was really nasty. Feel fine in the morning, sick by afternoon, dead by dinnertime. Hit young people really hard. It’s still around today, and you’ve undoubtedly had it, or been exposed, but it has weakened.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:01 AM (oFj7+)

265 He was pretending to be a great Dane.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 12:02 AM (Cqx++)

266 Nobunaga on Waffle House at 3 in the morning:

https://tinyurl.com/fphhu3k6

I absolutely love these.

He has a book: "A Samurai Loose in Modern America: The Complete Collection - All 100 Field Reports"

It is on Amazon.

It is 446 pages.

I just bought a copy.

It was my way of bowing to the author in thanks.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 18, 2026 12:02 AM (O7YUW)

267 Tom Servo

The Great Influenza is where I got my data. A well written, scary book.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 12:03 AM (u82oZ)

268 Aspirin was relatively new in 1918; Doctors were prescribing it by the handful to try and stem fever. That killed a lot of people too, if the Flu didn’t.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:04 AM (oFj7+)

269 Oh yay.

Matiners give up a grand slam.

My God. We suck.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 18, 2026 12:04 AM (yEz+x)

270 Congratulations, Nurse! First and foremost for your impending Grammyhood, and secondly for the Mariners bullpen not shitting the bed.

I second all the previous comments about grandkids. My nearly 3 yo granddaughter is the funniest, smartest little ball of life I could ever pray for. And her almost 2 month old little brother is also sweet and perfect-like. The joy expands daily...

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 18, 2026 12:05 AM (6lIrI)

271 Been saying for years, if they want to act like Barbarians from 630 AD... let them... bomb them back.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 11:59 PM (mP0Kj)
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Or as ace so eloquently put it, "bomb 'em back to modern Europe".

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 12:05 AM (zhuhT)

272
JD Vance's problem is that his approach is too intellectual which leaves him Vulnerable to attack from negative talking heads.

Too many words.

Your boss uses a few well chosen words which allows fools to show themselves. Your dissertation leaves gaps for the ill intended to fill.

https://tinyurl.com/ycd4frvk

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:06 AM (xHEjv)

273 >> Doctors were prescribing it by the handful to try and stem fever.

I was just about to mention that. They gave them lethal doses of aspirin, and several times over at that. They didn't know any better.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 12:07 AM (w6EFb)

274 Supremes Birthright Citizenship Ruling

Deja Thoris has a Cloaca, not a vagina. Pass it on.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 12:08 AM (u82oZ)

275 Grumpy and Recalcitrant

Thanks for that link to a profound comment on Waffle House potatoes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 12:10 AM (u82oZ)

276 Just downloaded a free copy of “Great Influenza” at ocean of pdf dot com

I use this site with remarkably little guilt. YMMV

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:10 AM (oFj7+)

277 Not really a cocktail guy, but starting to try a few (at home - have had those at bars occasionally but not often).

Biggest surprise so far is the Sidecar. Fresh lemons from the yard (meyers, not very tart, might be key) really make it refreshing as a summer sip. Only had a 375ml of cognac, used it up, have to resupply. Used ABK6, not pricey, but good on its own and now as I see, mixed. VSOP, but will try their VS this time as it's a bit cheaper, and, for mixing.

Have a bottle of Remy 1738 but that s**t's for sipping. Haven't actually opened it yet.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 12:11 AM (U/Byj)

278 A mother in Memphis TN has been charged with m*rder after she sh0t a 20-year-old man she found hiding under her CHILD'S BED at 1:45 a.m.

When the mother was asked why she did it, she said:

"I did what I had to do."

https://tinyurl.com/mr2tnjbx

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 12:11 AM (zhuhT)

279 A mother in Memphis TN has been charged with m*rder after she sh0t a 20-year-old man she found hiding under her CHILD'S BED at 1:45 a.m.

At most she should be charged with trash removal without a license.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 12:13 AM (gKWVE)

280 Was her child 20 as well? Or 7? A jury may take that sort of thing into consideration.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:14 AM (oFj7+)

281 JD Vance's problem is that his approach is too intellectual which leaves him Vulnerable to attack from negative talking heads.

Too many words.”

I agree with that; I was thinking that when I saw him being attacked for saying Milton Friedman was obsolete. Many said “what? You’re saying that Ronald Reagan’s favorite economist is no longer relevant? “.
Not a good look. But I read Vance’s full argument , and he was trying to make the case that things like tariffs, which Friedman believed were terrible, are in fact now necessary.

But very few people have the patience to try and figure out the esoteric argument he was making. As you say; too many words.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 12:14 AM (Pa7jv)

282 278 A mother in Memphis TN has been charged with m*rder after she sh0t a 20-year-old man she found hiding under her CHILD'S BED at 1:45 a.m.

When the mother was asked why she did it, she said:

"I did what I had to do."

https://tinyurl.com/mr2tnjbx
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 12:11

I don’t think the community note has posted on this yet, but the daughter invited the guy in (which is still wrong, of course) and the mom shot him on her porch after an argument. He wasn’t hiding under the bed.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 12:14 AM (hftzA)

283 276 Just downloaded a free copy of “Great Influenza” at ocean of pdf dot com

I use this site with remarkably little guilt. YMMV

Posted by: Common Tater
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Don't know the date but the original intent of copyright was to protect the author, not the next five generations.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:15 AM (xHEjv)

284
CH Soyara's Autumn Sunset

September 15, 2015 - July 17, 2026

Rest well, big guy, and wait for us.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2026 12:15 AM (e3IPu)

285 the child was apparently 13 and, being 13 therefore stupid, invited the 20 year old creep over.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 12:15 AM (gKWVE)

286 Been saying for years, if they want to act like Barbarians from 630 AD... let them... bomb them back.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 11:59 PM (mP0Kj)
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Or as ace so eloquently put it, "bomb 'em back to modern Europe".

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 18, 2026 12:05 AM (zhuhT)

I'm good with sending them back to the Precambrian era.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 12:16 AM (S41Gd)

287 It was a uniquely perverse disease; it triggered a massive immune system overreaction, and this is what killed its victims. Which meant that those *most* likely to die were healthy adults in their 20’s and 30’s with strong immune systems - many died within 2 - 3 days of the first symptom.
And yet those who were old, and sick, or had compromised immune systems often survived.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 11:59 PM (Pa7jv)
***************
Cytokine storm is what it is called. One doc saved all (or most) of his patients by giving them alkaline water from baking soda vs the new aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid). I read about it when the wuhan flu plandemic was raging.

I think of trying this with a random cold from our grandkids but always forget.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 18, 2026 12:17 AM (hzuYO)

288
If some of Big Publishing had their way, somebody would still be making money off Shakespeare.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 12:17 AM (w6EFb)

289 Have a great night everyone.

May your lungs be clean, and rain wash your air.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 18, 2026 12:19 AM (u82oZ)

290 They don’t have a copy of “Deke!” which pisses me off. I’ve been wanting to read Slayton’s book. But they have a lot of stuff.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:19 AM (oFj7+)

291 But very few people have the patience to try and figure out the esoteric argument he was making. As you say; too many words.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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Which then begs the question, how will he do as #1.
State the point, stay on point, make the point.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:19 AM (xHEjv)

292 I don’t think the community note has posted on this yet, but the daughter invited the guy in (which is still wrong, of course) and the mom shot him on her porch after an argument. He wasn’t hiding under the bed.

Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2026 12:14 AM (hftzA)

Ouch, that might not go well for her.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 12:20 AM (S41Gd)

293
Don't know the date but the original intent of copyright was to protect the author, not the next five generations.

of LAWYERS

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2026 12:21 AM (Cqx++)

294 @LauraLoomer
BREAKING:
During an interview with @katiecouric, Kentucky’s Democrat Governor @AndyBeshearKY said he has been told GOP Senator Mitch McConnell @SenMcConnell may be dead


everyone says McConnell is doing laps around the Styx except for McConnell's staff who are releasing doctored photos.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 12:21 AM (gKWVE)

295
Dejah Thoris pranced around naked all the time, IIRC.

I imagine it will be the same when Elon becomes emperor of Mars. He'll have all his concubines running around the palace naked.

More power to him.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 12:23 AM (w6EFb)

296 McConnell's staff who are releasing doctored photos.

Posted by: gKWVE
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Doctor, doctor give me the news
I've got a bad case of McConnell's reviews

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:25 AM (xHEjv)

297 Vance is pretty sharp, insofar he is light years ahead of the ordinary standard issue Republican in terms of debate skills and understanding how the left and the media plays the game, fwiw. DeSantis is similar that way. Some guys get it, unfortunately a lot of people don’t, or act like they don’t.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:26 AM (oFj7+)

298 hello all

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 12:26 AM (CHHv1)

299 Not really a cocktail guy, but starting to try a few (at home - have had those at bars occasionally but not often).

Biggest surprise so far is the Sidecar. Fresh lemons from the yard (meyers, not very tart, might be key) really make it refreshing as a summer sip.
Posted by: rhomboid


I do like a good sidecar. A sugar rim on the glass is optional, but changes the flavor just enough that I'd rather have it than not. I'd certainly want it with the tart lemons I got at the store this week.

The Joy of Mixology book points out the "families" of cocktails.

Had a whiskey sour? A sidecar is just a cognac/brandy sour. And a margarita is a tequila sour. The recipes for them are all "mostly liquor, with a sweet thing and a sour thing."

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 12:26 AM (VHUov)

300 @295 - everyone was naked in Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mars books. Dejah Thoris was probably quite an eyeful, still.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 18, 2026 12:28 AM (CHHv1)

301 “he has been told GOP Senator Mitch McConnell @SenMcConnell may be dead”

There are proven ways to check for this.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:28 AM (oFj7+)

302 *scoots butt across the ONT like a dog with an itch*

Posted by: gaf gaf at July 18, 2026 12:29 AM (v9sH+)

303

301 “he has been told GOP Senator Mitch McConnell @SenMcConnell may be dead”

There are proven ways to check for this.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:28 AM (oFj7+)

I disagree! I think he is Undead.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 12:31 AM (Pa7jv)

304 297 Vance is pretty sharp,
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He's sharp but not concise. You want one thing, go for it. The electorate is not a bunch of college students assaying the value of the exposition.


Are you Mike Tyson or are you Neil deGrasse Tyson?



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:31 AM (xHEjv)

305
@ronmarz
7h
This is simple. If Mitch McConnell was alive, they would produce him. Therefore, he is not alive.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:33 AM (xHEjv)

306 mikeski, good point about the sweet/sour balance in all those drinks. And makes me want to try a whiskey sour (maybe tonight? a bit lazy at this point).

A great but dangerous and simple one, that only has the sweet not the sour except a bit from the limes, is the caipirinha, the Brazilian "national cocktail". Just lime juice, sugar, and cachaca, which is just a simple rum with a hint of sweetness and cane juice flavor. In hot weather goes down too easy.

There are all kinds of aged cachacas but the plain one is best for caipirinhas, guessing it's aged 2 years or so and either doesn't see wood or is "cleaned up" like light rum usually is (color from aging removed).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 18, 2026 12:33 AM (U/Byj)

307
Deke finally flew to space on Apollo-Soyuz at the age of 51, the oldest astronaut to fly in space at the time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 12:34 AM (w6EFb)

308 Which then begs the question, how will he do as #1.
State the point, stay on point, make the point.
Posted by: Braenyard


Tell 'em what you're gonna tell 'em, then tell 'em, then tell 'em what you told 'em.

Posted by: Speeching 101 at July 18, 2026 12:37 AM (VHUov)

309
307
Deke finally...
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Uncle Deke?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nggqe-L9ZQ8

1

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:38 AM (xHEjv)

310 Mitch McConnell will show everybody!! He'll come out in John McCain's special Captain Pike chair!! Spritely as ever!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 18, 2026 12:39 AM (jrKun)

311 “he has been told GOP Senator Mitch McConnell @SenMcConnell may be dead”

There are proven ways to check for this.
Posted by: Common Tater


Throw him on the cart and see if he argues?

Posted by: mikeski python at July 18, 2026 12:39 AM (VHUov)

312 He's sharp but not concise. You want one thing, go for it.
——-

Eh, I think my point is we tend to forget how shitty some Republicans are. They go on these television programs, which aren’t “news” or discussions, but more akin to organized ambush. They stupidly accept false premises, and try to navigate “gotcha” questions and propaganda messages. It’s just pathetic. I used to think they were stupid 25 years ago, but maybe decided they are participating.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:40 AM (oFj7+)

313
There was a mishap during reentry of the command module after the Apollo-Soyuz mission.

They failed to turn off the RCS system at the assigned point and the capsule sucked in some toxic hydrazine and other chemical fumes through the intake. The capsule was maintained at 5 psi in space, and when it got back into the thick atmosphere, would just let ambient air in to equalize the pressure.

One of the crew lost consciousness, but they got O2 masks on in time. CM pilot Vance Brand took the blame, saying he failed to hear CMDR Stafford call out the RCS shut off checkpoint.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 12:41 AM (w6EFb)

314 307
Deke finally flew to space on Apollo-Soyuz at the age of 51, the oldest astronaut to fly in space at the time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 12:34 AM (w6EFb)

He won the death pool in June 1993. I remember well.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:42 AM (4g5V+)

315 294 @LauraLoomer
BREAKING:
During an interview with @katiecouric, Kentucky’s Democrat Governor @AndyBeshearKY said he has been told GOP Senator Mitch McConnell @SenMcConnell may be dead

everyone says McConnell is doing laps around the Styx except for McConnell's staff who are releasing doctored photos.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2026 12:21 AM (gKWVE)

This is just a sequel to Weekend at Bernie's. (Not to be confused with the evil Sen from VT.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:44 AM (4g5V+)

316 >>I was looking at that voter ID map and was wondering, why haven't we combined Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire into one state with 2 senators and divided Texas into 3 states with 6 senators

Some of you really need to take a remedial history course.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 12:45 AM (viF8m)

317 And another day winds to a close. It was good.

Have a memorial service tomorrow morning. Wonder if I have any funereal garb that fits. Been a while and this body's been through changes.

Everybody enjoy the rest of the ONT. Keep it rolling.

https://youtu.be/RsP3rFJJk1Y

G'nite, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - keep on shiny at July 18, 2026 12:45 AM (p+5Bi)

318 Hadrian,
What happened to your borzoi? Had he been sick? I am so sorry.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 18, 2026 12:45 AM (3AwA+)

319 Brain cancer. Not a heart attack. They really kind of screwed him over on that deal. He did well as head of the astronaut office. Shepard was a dickhead for assigning himself as commander for the next available mission once he returned to flying status. He hadn’t flown or trained in about 10 years, and all of 15 minutes. I’d have strangled the son of a bitch if he bumped me.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:48 AM (oFj7+)

320 Everybody enjoy the rest of the ONT. Keep it rolling.
Posted by: mindful webworker - keep on shiny


Okay.

https://youtu.be/8q_lsRLJhcA

Posted by: mikeski reynolds at July 18, 2026 12:52 AM (VHUov)

321

John Glenn was the oldest to reach orbit on his return to space in 1998.

A 90 yr old flew on New Shepard one time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 12:52 AM (w6EFb)

322 319 Brain cancer. Not a heart attack. They really kind of screwed him over on that deal. He did well as head of the astronaut office. Shepard was a dickhead for assigning himself as commander for the next available mission once he returned to flying status. He hadn’t flown or trained in about 10 years, and all of 15 minutes. I’d have strangled the son of a bitch if he bumped me.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:48 AM (oFj7+)

Not to surprising though. Let's be real. Those guys had massive egos, and they had to, to do what they did.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:53 AM (4g5V+)

323 Slayton died from brain cancer on June 13, 1993, aged 69.
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That's a bunch of shit. Do all those things all those years to get bit in the ass at 69.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 12:53 AM (xHEjv)

324 316 >>I was looking at that voter ID map and was wondering, why haven't we combined Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire into one state with 2 senators and divided Texas into 3 states with 6 senators

Some of you really need to take a remedial history course.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 12:45 AM (viF8m)

TX can divide itself into five states.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 12:53 AM (4g5V+)

325 TX can divide itself into five states.
Posted by: Cow Demon


"A", "E", "S", "T", and "X"?

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 12:55 AM (VHUov)

326 This is just a sequel to Weekend at Bernie's. (Not to be confused with the evil Sen from VT.)

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That would be Weekend at Comrade Bernie's Dacha #3

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2026 12:58 AM (u/oMr)

327 This pisses me off big time !!!!!!!!!!!
I have spent over $1200 on Melatonin and now I know why my skin has not changed color.
Trump lied to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (IEljh)


Melatonin only affects your Pineal gland, you know.

Posted by: Dr. Crawford Tillinghast at July 18, 2026 12:58 AM (rbvCR)

328 Happy Friday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 18, 2026 01:00 AM (ibDUx)

329 >>TX can divide itself into five states.

Exactly.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:01 AM (viF8m)

330 327 This pisses me off big time !!!!!!!!!!!
I have spent over $1200 on Melatonin and now I know why my skin has not changed color.
Trump lied to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (IEljh)

Melatonin only affects your Pineal gland, you know.
Posted by: Dr. Crawford Tillinghast at July 18, 2026 12:58 AM (rbvCR)

now deys taken our bbcs

Posted by: double digits at July 18, 2026 01:02 AM (ReLdP)

331 TX can divide itself into five states.

Posted by: Cow Demon
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TX can do whatever it wants to but it ain't going to divide into any other states.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 01:02 AM (xHEjv)

332 Tater, did you see my post to you well above about the horizon on the 8-balls? I hope that all made sense.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 01:05 AM (w6EFb)

333 “he has been told GOP Senator Mitch McConnell @SenMcConnell may be dead”

There are proven ways to check for this.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2026 12:28 AM (oFj7+)

I disagree! I think he is Undead.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 12:31 AM (Pa7jv)

Great, another draugr in the senate. Just what we need.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2026 01:06 AM (S41Gd)

334 TX divides it's going to make TX stronger, how?
TX divides it's going to make the smaller states stronger, how?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3pne1IbWM

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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 01:07 AM (xHEjv)

335
That got me interested. After Apollo 7, the crews never wore their spacesuits during re-entry, just their flight coveralls.

Wally Schirra and the crew of Apollo 7 sort of had a little mutiny against mission control about that. They were supposed to get in their suits with the helmets. But they had bad head colds (and with no gravity to help drainage, it makes it ten times worse). They were afraid they'd rupture their eardrums during repressurization if they had their helmets on.

So they just flat out refused orders. They never flew again, most likely due to that. But from Apollo 8 on, they nixed the requirements, and never wore suits during reentry ever again.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 01:08 AM (w6EFb)

336 334 TX divides it's going to make TX stronger, how?
TX divides it's going to make the smaller states stronger, how?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI3pne1IbWM

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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 01:07 AM (xHEjv)

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to happen. But it is a power unique to the TX Legislature. The other 49 states have to go through Congress.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 01:10 AM (4g5V+)

337
I think it was Deke Slayton (with other honchos) who refused to waive the helmets. Slayton gave the explicit order to Wally to put their helmets on.

Wally refused that direct order. He said the odds of then going deaf from ruptured eardrums were greater than dying from loss of pressure, and that was his call.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 01:11 AM (w6EFb)

338 Boring school lecturer hat on:

The tale of Texas splitting into 5 states is a myth that’s too much fun for anyone to let die. When Texas was first admitted in 1845, there may have been some agreement, written or unwritten, permitting this.
But…. Then came the War between the States, in which Texas seceded and then had to petition for readmission, like the rest of the Confederste States. This wiped out all previous agreements for the original admission, whatever they may have been.

Also, at the State level Texas operates under the Constitution of 1876, which supercedes any older laws and/or agreements.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 01:13 AM (Pa7jv)

339 334 TX divides it's going to make TX stronger, how?
TX divides it's going to make the smaller states stronger, how?


We'll finally be able to form Voltron.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 18, 2026 01:13 AM (zQvTf)

340 Are they going to do like SC and appoint

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 01:13 AM (xHEjv)

341 This was so much fun.

https://tinyurl.com/rmua2bes

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:14 AM (viF8m)

342 If Texas divides itself it could mean some blue states emerge. The Houston area and the D/FW area also the Austin area will likely go blue. Many ex blue people have moved into these metro areas. West Texas and the Panhandle would be OK but the rest of the state would be a free for all.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 01:20 AM (bqIVz)

343 My eyelids are drooping. Time for a snooze. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2026 01:24 AM (1z8ji)

344 Night, AOP.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 18, 2026 01:25 AM (ibDUx)

345 mikeski, thanks for sharing your thoughts on my take on the Aviation! I don't make it very often, but my wife brought home some craft gin & creme de violette from Victoria, and that's my only recipe with the latter ingredient. It's interesting that you thought the standard version was also unbalanced. It has never been quite satisfying to me. It sounds like I should keep experimenting.

Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 01:27 AM (rcENI)

346 WeirdDave this ONT had me in tears. Thank you!

I was just settling down to read the comments when my almost-17yo came in to hang out. I wound up showing him the George Washington video (he said he wouldn't tell his mother) and also Charlie the Unicorn. And he showed me an animated video about an Escape Goat.

Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 01:31 AM (rcENI)

347
Now I'm reading about Gunter Wendt. He was der Fuhrer of the launch pad, as the Apollo astronauts dubbed him. He was the boss of the close-out crew, and the last face the astronauts saw before blasting off. After he left, they would joke, "I vunder vere Gunter vent?"

At one time, some engineer was intent on making some change Gunter didn't approve of. Gunter had security throw him out. They told him if Gunter wants you out, you're out, now we gonna do this the easy way or the hard way or something along those lines.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 01:32 AM (w6EFb)

348 338 Boring school lecturer hat on:

The tale of Texas splitting into 5 states is a myth that’s too much fun for anyone to let die. When Texas was first admitted in 1845, there may have been some agreement, written or unwritten, permitting this.
But…. Then came the War between the States, in which Texas seceded and then had to petition for readmission, like the rest of the Confederste States. This wiped out all previous agreements for the original admission, whatever they may have been.

Also, at the State level Texas operates under the Constitution of 1876, which supercedes any older laws and/or agreements.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 01:13 AM (Pa7jv)

You may want to advise the TX SBOE of this. And every middle school in TX. Textbook publishers, etc.

IIRC a TX HR Rep from the Panhandle area proposed hiving off the top row of the Panhandle to form its own state - Old Texas. This back in 1989.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 01:34 AM (4g5V+)

349
Gunter told John Glenn's wife Annie before that fateful orbital flight that he could not guarantee her husband would make it. That would be lying, there is too much complicate machinery involved.

But I can tell you this, the spacecraft will be in the best possible condition when it launches. If anything happens, I will look you in the eye and truthfully tell you I did my best.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 01:35 AM (w6EFb)

350 TX can do whatever it wants to but it ain't going to divide into any other states.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 01:02 AM (xHEjv)

Just because it can doesn't mean I want it to or that there is even a groundswell of support for it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 01:36 AM (4g5V+)

351 @350.
Agree. I don't think Texans would want to divide their state.
They are proud to be Texans.

Posted by: Case at July 18, 2026 01:46 AM (bqIVz)

352 No wonder I didn't get it.

Hey, I'm old. The 80s were my salad days.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 18, 2026 01:49 AM (lckqa)

353 Hey, I'm old. The 80s were my salad days.
Posted by: Weirddave


"It's an older meme, but it checks out."

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 01:53 AM (VHUov)

354 @WarMonitor3
10h
60 US airforce refuelling tankers have arrived in Israel along with more fighters to Jordan.

This strike is going to be massive..
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Updates?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 01:54 AM (xHEjv)

355 >>Hey, I'm old. The 80s were my salad days.

You aren't old enough.

We had much better music in the 70s.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 01:55 AM (viF8m)

356 You may want to advise the TX SBOE of this. And every middle school in TX. Textbook publishers, etc.

IIRC a TX HR Rep from the Panhandle area proposed hiving off the top row of the Panhandle to form its own state - Old Texas. This back in 1989.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 01:34 AM (4g5V+)

I understand the case for it. These are actually the two sides of the huge legal battle that would take place it it was ever tried; which won’t happen.

John Roberts would have to decide which position was a tax.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 18, 2026 01:58 AM (Pa7jv)

357 327 Melatonin only affects your Pineal gland, you know.

In college my professor laughed at Descartes for thinking the Pineal gland was how the body interacted with the soul. But I dunno, maybe that is not so naive.

Has anyone here read Penrose's arguments about Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem and the human mind not being reducible to matter? I had similar thoughts in college after doing an independent study working through Nagel and Newman.

I've read Franzén's book complaining about mystic-like interpretations of Gödel's theory, but if we're arguing about the Church-Turing Thesis it seems quite appropriate to apply it as broadly as possible.

With AI is seems like this question is becoming more acute.

Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 01:58 AM (rcENI)

358 ... video call in 2023, a leader of the Democratic Socialists of America said, “Our goal is communism.” It was published as part of a compilation in April 2026.

None of the Democratic Socialists disavowed it. Nobody posted a “clarifying statement” distancing the DSA from that statement.

So that’s who they are. Their goal is communism.

The name of that leader is David Jenkins. He’s a member of the DSA’s National Political Committee, so he ought to know.

He told us who they are, so we should believe him.

Extreme leftist candidates (including DSA candidates) from past elections include

AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ro Khanna, Ilhan Omar, and Pramila Jayapal.

Cory Booker, Ayanna Pressley, Bernie Sanders, and Cori Bush.

Extreme leftist DSA candidates who have popped up in the current cycle:..._American Thinker

https://tinyurl.com/ydbtnz9y



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:00 AM (xHEjv)

359 Someone posted earlier today; How do you know if he's a communist?

https://tinyurl.com/46hra4d5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:04 AM (xHEjv)

360
If I may, as a Californian, I have some knowledge of this splitting-a-state business.

The state can make all the arrangements and declare itself split that it wants, but it has to be approved by Congress or it doesn't happen.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:06 AM (mmrXZ)

361 Gabby Deutch@GSDeutch - 8h

New: AIPAC is no longer fundraising for the 18 Dems it endorsed — 15 of whom are up for reelection — who voted this week to end U.S. aid to Israel

Now 71% of the candidates AIPAC is funding are Republicans, & 29% are Dems

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:08 AM (xHEjv)

362 I see that Cow Demon has shown up, so...
Willowed from Thurs ONT referring to USS Liberty incident
*****
Congratulations on sounding exactly like every hate-filled anti-Semite bigot on the subject. The Morning Report had a great article on the matter I wish I had bookmarked that takes down every point you mentioned.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 17, 2026 06:07 AM (8l6/L)
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Congratulations on sounding just like every strawman that the anti-semites construct to justify themselves. You've shown absolutely no recognition of the fact that Israel could possibly be at fault. I'm about as anti-Semitic as DJT, for approximately the same family tree reasons, so don't wave that shibboleth at me. Unless and until the inquiry is declassified, The Morning Report isn't going to convince me.
So, back to my point: the US (in this case, Trump, et al) may be willing to give up regime change (probably Israel's #2 priority) to get a deal, and judging Vance's performance in negotiations without considering that fact is unfair. Especially when some of that criticism is coming from Israeli sources, who may be doing that to "diplomatically" criticize Trump.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 18, 2026 02:08 AM (hzdTb)

363 >>Agree. I don't think Texans would want to divide their state.
They are proud to be Texans.

Might be worth it so we can hear them tell us why they are once again unique to have balls to actually leave their state while they trash states like Rhode Island that had the balls to do it hundreds of years ago.

Batter up.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:10 AM (viF8m)

364 >>>Look at me I'm ONT

Here's looking at you, WeirdDave!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 02:13 AM (6wpGE)

365 360
If I may, as a Californian, I have some knowledge of this splitting-a-state business.

The state can make all the arrangements and declare itself split that it wants, but it has to be approved by Congress or it doesn't happen.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Speculating: If CA voted and agreed amonst itself to be two states and 100% started acting like two states - each new state giving the Fed its cut and following all the other rules and regs that befall a state re the Fed.
What would Congress do?


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:13 AM (xHEjv)

366 Rhode Island that had the balls to do it hundreds of years ago.

Batter up.

Posted by: JackStraw
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You funny tonight. Rhode Island is bigger than Dallas County not sure its GDP is.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:17 AM (xHEjv)

367 >>You funny tonight. Rhode Island is bigger than Dallas County not sure its GDP is.

Who gives a fuck?

Never understood why Texans thinks this matters. You don't even like much of your state. My front yard is the Atlantic Ocean. That's a bit bigger than Texas. By a lot.


Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:25 AM (viF8m)

368 World Stumbles Towards Volatile 2030s As Goldman Finds Global Alignment Hits Lowest In Decades
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Hey Goldie, what about hemispherical alignment?
Western Hemispherical alignment, how about that?
Eight of eight nation's leadership candidates
endorsed by Trump won their election.
What about that alignment?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:29 AM (xHEjv)

369 the Atlantic Ocean. That's a bit bigger than Texas. By a lot.
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You got me. Can't argue with a non sequitur.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:31 AM (xHEjv)

370 I'm more interested in the proposition of CA splitting into two states, each doing all the proforma of an individual state. Considering the congress we have today. What would it do?
I think a sternly worded letter to each state would be order of the day.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:36 AM (xHEjv)

371 346
the George Washington video
Charlie the Unicorn
Posted by: frammish at July 18, 2026 01:31 AM (rcENI)

Where are these?

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 02:38 AM (6wpGE)

372 Sweet dreams Horde, I injured my hamstring last week and I am really sore, I need to get horizontal as it hurts to sit.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 18, 2026 02:38 AM (ibDUx)

373 >>You got me. Can't argue with a non sequitur.

I accept your surrender.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:40 AM (viF8m)

374 So that’s who they are. Their goal is communism.

....

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:00 AM (xHEjv)

And this differs from all the other Democrats how? The DSA is a fresh coat of rotten paint on an old shitty party that got systematically cornered and then pasted by a man they tried and failed to kill. Wait until the media start referring to DSA as Democrat MAGA, and they fill spaces with astroturfed crowds of retards young and old.

After all those years of denigrating us they are about to try and take the energy Trump carefully built for their own. Call it the "Reverse Epstein". All while claiming Republicans are stuffy, boring, tired and lost without Trump as the front man. And here is all this "energy" and it's finally coming from the Left. They are engineering a fake movement before everyone's eyes. JMO

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2026 02:40 AM (vE0+H)

375 >>You got me. Can't argue with a non sequitur.

I accept your surrender.

Posted by: JackStraw


I'm not sure if this is an argument or a Monty Python skit.....

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 02:43 AM (VHUov)

376 The figures don't lie ;but liars figure! Dog vomit says 285,000 non citizens registered to vote which is not a crime vomits DOJ under strict orders to prosecute illegal voting only prosecuted 4 cases. (red states) As for China hacking dog vomit left out that they could of got the information from data mining who use public information voting records. If dump tries to stop the mid terms to prevent rethugliKKKans from losing it will be their ending.

Posted by: raimondo at July 18, 2026 02:43 AM (HB+QK)

377 So that’s who they are. Their goal is communism.
Posted by: Braenyard

And this differs from all the other Democrats how?
Posted by: ...


Clinton and Obama could keep it in their pants?

Figuratively, for Clinton.

Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2026 02:45 AM (VHUov)

378 370 I'm more interested in the proposition of CA splitting into two states, each doing all the proforma of an individual state. Considering the congress we have today. What would it do?
I think a sternly worded letter to each state would be order of the day.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:36 AM (xHEjv)

gonna be interesting.... there is a thing soon to be on the ballot here, that reneges on the Prop 13 promise.

Third time I've seen this type of crap... but with the amount of election crap going on? my guess is it passes.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 18, 2026 02:46 AM (mP0Kj)

379
Speculating: If CA voted and agreed amonst itself to be two states and 100% started acting like two states - each new state giving the Fed its cut and following all the other rules and regs that befall a state re the Fed.
What would Congress do?


Posted by: Braenyard

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Well, that's kind of a "If the world turned into an apple, would the moon turn into an orange?" question. I assume that states have some arrangement with federal agencies for reporting obligations and "Take me to your leader" situations. If Jefferson (as the new state would probably be called) and California tried to do this in a one-sided way, I'm sure DC would completely ignore them and continue as-is. Californians know this, and it's part of the considerations about splitting. I wish we'd do it. We were close to it TWICE -- it got derailed the first time by the Civil War, then got back on track and boom, Pearl Harbor day and it got derailed again. Maybe we'd better be careful about trying a third time haha.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 02:48 AM (mmrXZ)

380 >>I'm not sure if this is an argument or a Monty Python skit.....

Not sure why it's confusing,

Where I live gets trashed daily. Texans don't seem to like it when it comes back at them.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:57 AM (viF8m)

381 Well, that's kind of a "If the world turned into an apple, would the moon turn into an orange?" question
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Blondie, I am scared that i understand this.

Posted by: ... at July 18, 2026 02:58 AM (vE0+H)

382 hot covfefe is good covfefe

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 03:02 AM (6wpGE)

383 >> I am scared that i understand this.

I did too. Very clever way to put it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 03:08 AM (w6EFb)

384 367 >>You funny tonight. Rhode Island is bigger than Dallas County not sure its GDP is.

Who gives a fuck?

Never understood why Texans thinks this matters. You don't even like much of your state. My front yard is the Atlantic Ocean. That's a bit bigger than Texas. By a lot.


Posted by: JackStraw at July 18, 2026 02:25 AM (viF8m)

Oh FFS. Sit down and shut up or I will split Alaska in two and Texas will be the 3rd largest state, and don't get me started on Pacific vs. Atlantic.

Do I need to knock heads together?

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 18, 2026 03:09 AM (bl07w)

385
It's sort of like some of those silly fan-fic questions, like, who would win in a fight between Batman and Aquaman if Batman didn't have his utility belt, and Aquaman was covered in molasses.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 03:16 AM (w6EFb)

386 heh

Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
13h
This woman has been ranting like an asylum cat lady about Russia and the election being stolen from her for going on 10 years now.

Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
14h
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 03:16 AM (6wpGE)

387
Blondie, I am scared that i understand this.
Posted by: ...

============

Hee-hee.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 03:32 AM (mmrXZ)

388 Didn't intend to make it confounding. The premise is that California could formally split into two states and the federal government would to virtually nothing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 03:36 AM (xHEjv)

389 361 Gabby Deutch@GSDeutch - 8h

New: AIPAC is no longer fundraising for the 18 Dems it endorsed — 15 of whom are up for reelection — who voted this week to end U.S. aid to Israel

Now 71% of the candidates AIPAC is funding are Republicans, & 29% are Dems
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 02:08 AM (xHEjv)

Good. We don’t want money from those hyper evil apes and pigs anyway.

Posted by: Democratic Party at July 18, 2026 03:36 AM (4g5V+)

390 heh

Tony Hrvatska
@tonybalogna
Jul 17
Canada was able to manage its vast forest land for a hundred years until a decade ago when it decided to become Reddit: the country

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 03:41 AM (6wpGE)

391
I was just reading a piece at the Daily Mail about JFK, Jr's plane crash. His body was severed in two at the torso, and his wife was scalped. Diver found a piece of her scalp with her long hair still attached. Being so gruesome, they just let it go.

He was an idiot. He got himself into a classic graveyard spiral, not knowing how to use instruments. Trust your instruments, not your senses. When you get into one of those, with no visual cues, your brain thinks your flying level, when in reality your are in bank, curving around, and descending. If you see your altitude is dropping, the instinct is to yank back on the stick, which increases the turn acceleration violently, and the drop rate.

That's exactly what he did.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 18, 2026 03:47 AM (w6EFb)

392 Internal clock.is evil

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2026 03:55 AM (Ia/+0)

393 Texas Game Wardens and the Texas Department of Public Safety teamed up to rescue people from floodwater in Uvalde County, Texas. The Texas Game Wardens say they have conducted 147 rescues and 83 evacuations across eight counties
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It must have rained...again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 03:55 AM (xHEjv)

394 393 Texas Game Wardens and the Texas Department of Public Safety teamed up to rescue people from floodwater in Uvalde County, Texas. The Texas Game Wardens say they have conducted 147 rescues and 83 evacuations across eight counties
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It must have rained...again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 18, 2026 03:55 AM (xHEjv)

Sudden intense downpours with that terrain do not mix.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 18, 2026 04:08 AM (4g5V+)

395
That's exactly what he did.
Posted by: publius

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Wow, how can you not know that you're banking? I can see how you might not know that your nose is down, but it seems to me you would know that you're sliding left or right in your seat. Your coffee is spilling sideways.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 18, 2026 04:24 AM (mmrXZ)

396 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

397 from the tech thread (excerpted):

The Eighth Law already requires that every admissible alteration of the noetic field (and, by extension, every macroscopic world-line that couples to that field) lie along a null geodesic of the full 6D manifold that satisfies the 2T-gauge conditions.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

Friday Cafe

treeguardians.jpg
Tree Guardians by John Kent

Parker the Beagle was timid and shy and failed as a hunting dog, so he was kept in a cage. But a kind woman rescued him.

The greatest dog video I've ever seen.

Arranging a marriage for a lonely bachelor bunny.

Tiny piglet makes friends with the whole farm.

Crow knocks on the window every morning to play with the house's dog and cat.
Poor golden retriever has had his bed stolen by an evil kitten.

Republican whale pounces.


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2 {{{echo}}}

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3 Best dog video?
Worst auto play ads that won't go away.
Fuck it.

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Posted by: Accomack at July 17, 2026 07:05 PM (/Chlc)

5 I could have been first but I was making friends with barnyard animals.

Posted by: Man who lives as a pig at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (MWfyi)

6
Two Best of Breed wins for The Big Dummy at today's Houston KC and concurrent Houston Area Hound Association shows. No joy in either Hound Group, but there are lots of high rollers in town.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (O0L8i)

7 Cuties!

The top image reminds me that I LOVED Sheep Detective. IT was charming, a fun mystery, and also made me have deep feelings about death and memory.

And before the weekend box office rolls in for Nolan's Odyssey...I think it will do great its first two weeks because of the huge IMAX presales, and the Nolan stans are a strong force. The drop off two weeks from now will be telling if it has legs. But the new Spider-Man movie will swoop into theaters right after, and that film is going to be HUGE. The last one ended on a gangbuster cliffhanger, and Peter finally got his big losses. People want to see the resolution. It might take away the Nolan audience. We'll see. I'm interested in seeing both movies, but not opening weekend, maybe in a few weeks.

Posted by: LizLem at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (Eng1Z)

8 Aargh. Read the content. Rookie mistake.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 17, 2026 07:07 PM (NcvvS)

9 Congrats, Hadrian! I always love hearing news about your babies and their wins.

Posted by: LizLem at July 17, 2026 07:07 PM (Eng1Z)

10
SpongeBlade Bobpants.
SpongeBlade Bobpants.
SpongeBlade Bobpants!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 07:08 PM (Fi81e)

11 Nooded, but axeman did it first.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 17, 2026 07:08 PM (NcvvS)

12 @PolitlcsUK
🚨 BREAKING: Ann Widdecombe's murder suspect has been named as Joshua Kerry by the Daily Mail

The soy is strong in that one.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 07:09 PM (gKWVE)

13 Piglet reminds me of the moviw Babe. What a great movie

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2026 07:14 PM (DbmIv)

14 to your fleece be true

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:16 PM (4NO2D)

15
Made a major deposit in the Favor Bank today. They were short of stewards to cover all the rings, so I offered to run one by myself. Long, hard day, but I done good by all parties.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 07:16 PM (O0L8i)

16 Why does the top photograph remind me of the Movie, "The Stepford Wives"?

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 07:16 PM (dIske)

17 that rickroll is so very bad.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:17 PM (4NO2D)

18 Favorite daydream of the Tree Guardians:
https://tinyurl.com/yzhthfas

Posted by: gp at July 17, 2026 07:18 PM (Jr5Lq)

19 Is that Canadian smoke?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 07:19 PM (Cqx++)

20 My compliments, Ace, on some very comprehensive and incisive coverage of the President's speech and media responses today.

My question is: are we in stage 4 or in end stage corruption?

Posted by: Paco at July 17, 2026 07:19 PM (2L+MU)

21 I made another batch of yellow plum jam today.
It is going to be a long summer, I think I am running out of jars.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 07:22 PM (rbvCR)

22 Cat and dog and bed is hilarious!

Posted by: gp at July 17, 2026 07:24 PM (Jr5Lq)

23 Dog and deer video is very cute. Thanks,. Ace.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 07:24 PM (D+BhG)

24 17 that rickroll is so very bad.
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:17 PM (4NO2D)
Well ain't much you can do with a rickroll.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 07:24 PM (LHPAg)

25 That'll do pig. That'll do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 07:24 PM (viF8m)

26 Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 07:22 PM (rbvCR)

Did the berry one ever work

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 07:28 PM (vE0+H)

27 25 That'll do pig. That'll do.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 07:24 PM (viF8m)
James Cromwell is a pretty good actor, he's just not very much of a person.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 07:29 PM (LHPAg)

28 I could have been first but I was making friends with barnyard animals.
Posted by: Man who lives as a pig
......

It's all fun and games until you meet the ducks.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 07:29 PM (UjdFS)

29 16 Why does the top photograph remind me of the Movie, "The Stepford Wives"?

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 07:16 PM (dIske)

Why do the dancing Japanese chicks remind me of Oompa -Loompas?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 07:30 PM (6ydKt)

30 I like this bizarre cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZzdYqBf8Mc

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:30 PM (4NO2D)

31 Is that dance practice AI of the same girl, or are there that many girls somewhere who look exactly the same?

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 07:32 PM (LHPAg)

32 Did the berry one ever work
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 07:28 PM (vE0+H)


The cherry batch? No, both batches are runny, though a couple did set sort of OK.

I need to dig potatoes this weekend, the vines are starting to die back, and I want to get them up so I can plant bush beans. I dug a couple up and they are just wonderful

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 07:32 PM (rbvCR)

33 He also covers Toto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxsyB5sbKzY

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:33 PM (4NO2D)

34 >>James Cromwell is a pretty good actor, he's just not very much of a person.

I didn't know that. But I did like the movie.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 07:35 PM (viF8m)

35 27 25 That'll do pig. That'll do.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 07:24 PM (viF8m)
James Cromwell is a pretty good actor, he's just not very much of a person.
Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 07:29 PM (LHPAg)
-----
Glen Corbett Zefram Cochrane > James Cromwell Zefram Cochrane

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 17, 2026 07:35 PM (n9eFH)

36 Why does the top photograph remind me of the Movie, "The Stepford Wives"?

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 07:16 PM (dIske)
----
Which is more chilling? A flock of birds watching you like that? Or a herd of sheep?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 07:35 PM (FZ29D)

37 The young, unpaired cocks that hang around the edges of a penguin colony are known as "hooligans".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 17, 2026 07:35 PM (0sNs1)

38 Glen Corbett Zefram Cochrane > James Cromwell Zefram Cochrane
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 17, 2026 07:35 PM


Oh yeah.

Posted by: The Companion at July 17, 2026 07:36 PM (4NO2D)

39 He also covers Toto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxsyB5sbKzY

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:33 PM (4NO2D)


I have no idea how to process these covers.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 07:37 PM (6ydKt)

40 Is that dance practice AI of the same girl, or are there that many girls somewhere who look exactly the same?
Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 07:32 PM (LHPAg)
----
Ghola clones created by the Bene Tleilax.

(I've been reading Dune novels recently...)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 07:37 PM (FZ29D)

41 I think it's because all Asian girls look the same from a distance.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 07:40 PM (6ydKt)

42 I have no idea how to process these covers.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 07:37 PM


One Word: Japanese

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:42 PM (4NO2D)

43 Glenn Corbett died three years before First Contact was filmed. I wonder if they would have tried to use him if not for lung cancer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 07:43 PM (Cqx++)

44 I had a friend that used to say that Japan was like the USA, if some Super Villain was putting LSD in our water supply.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:44 PM (4NO2D)

45 He also covers Toto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxsyB5sbKzY
Posted by: toby928(c)

I have no idea how to process these covers.
Posted by: SpeakingOf


Perhaps something classical would help? Different people, but the same chicken.

https://youtu.be/khOfSVULtsU
https://youtu.be/O3HW67QzTpU

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 07:44 PM (VHUov)

46 I think it's because all Asian girls look the same from a distance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 07:40 PM


What about after you get up close and get a sideways glance?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 17, 2026 07:44 PM (0sNs1)

47 James Cromwell is the Mike Farrell of Alan Aldas.

Fucking smug sonofabitch.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 07:46 PM (0aYVJ)

48 40 Is that dance practice AI of the same girl, or are there that many girls somewhere who look exactly the same?
Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 07:32 PM (LHPAg)

________________________

Two things disturb me about that vid. First, the choreography is bizarre....and secondly, I happen to know it isn't AI. They are called "Avantgardey" and were a big deal on "America's Got Talent."

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 07:47 PM (dIske)

49 Has Canada put out their wild fires yet?

Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 07:47 PM (bqIVz)

50 49 Has Canada put out their wild fires yet?
Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 07:47 PM (bqIVz

The smoke is in VA. Crazy.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 07:48 PM (p4NUW)

51 Perhaps something classical would help? Different people, but the same chicken.

https://youtu.be/khOfSVULtsU
https://youtu.be/O3HW67QzTpU

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 07:44 PM (VHUov)

I guess it's more fun than a kazoo.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 07:49 PM (6ydKt)

52 I click on one freakin link all week of cafes and this happens.

The worst part is I couldn't stop watching.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 07:49 PM (E9Zz8)

53 Cromwell made appearances on All in the Family, I believe.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 07:50 PM (wOO3z)

54 Canada belongs to the indigenous people, so maybe the wypeepo are lettin' dem put it out.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 17, 2026 07:50 PM (YlWIZ)

55 What kind of whale was that in the paddleboard video -- a humpback?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 17, 2026 07:51 PM (wzUl9)

56 31 Is that dance practice AI of the same girl, or are there that many girls somewhere who look exactly the same?
Posted by: Eromero

------------

1. they were wearing wigs
2. I am not sure they were all girls. I didn't look too close though.
3. Some have "daikon legs" so no, they don't look the same. Not enough pixes to see their faces though.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 07:51 PM (E9Zz8)

57 Good evening everyone from Historicon
Refighting the 1813 cavalry battle Lieberwolkwitz in 1813
Russian, Prussians and Austrians vs French

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 07:52 PM (xWme4)

58 I'll see your chicken and raise you a nose flute and ukulele.

https://youtu.be/G50u9syopYg

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 17, 2026 07:52 PM (n9eFH)

59 that rickroll is so very bad.
Posted by: toby928(c)

Well ain't much you can do with a rickroll.
Posted by: Eromero


They almost always let you down.

Posted by: mikeski, ironically at July 17, 2026 07:52 PM (VHUov)

60 Is that dance practice AI of the same girl, or are there that many girls somewhere who look exactly the same?
Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026


***
They are all wearing the same outfit and hairstyle, but there weren't any closeups, so naturally they all look alike.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 17, 2026 07:53 PM (wzUl9)

61 After this battle have to drive home so I can come back tomorrow morning

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 07:54 PM (xWme4)

62 Two things disturb me about that vid. First, the choreography is bizarre....and secondly, I happen to know it isn't AI. They are called "Avantgardey" and were a big deal on "America's Got Talent."
Posted by: Orson


They need a cinematographer with a clue, though. Unless having invisible arms was the point. Long white sleeves waving around in front of an all-white background?

Posted by: mikeski at July 17, 2026 07:54 PM (VHUov)

63 The young, unpaired cocks that hang around the edges of a penguin colony are known as "hooligans".
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 17, 2026 07:35 PM

Whereas the colony of penguins is a conspiracy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 07:54 PM (Wnv9h)

64 "An 80's song, sung by a 90's band, with an MV which the actor born in the 2000's, made in the 2010's, watched by the people in the 2020's."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7RwDnZI7Tw

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 07:55 PM (4NO2D)

65 You have to give a warning on sad endings. It was a punch in the gut to learn that cool crow was eaten by a hawk.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 07:56 PM (/WQyy)

66 ohai Black Lives Matter was a CCP op
tinyurl.com/4s5veh6x

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 07:57 PM (gKWVE)

67 James Cromwell is the Mike Farrell of Alan Aldas.

Fucking smug sonofabitch.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 07:46 PM (0aYVJ)

He played Stretch Cunningham I believe.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Zombie Meathead at July 17, 2026 07:58 PM (45BvE)

68 Saw a picture of Lake Tahoe going dry. Shame, it is such a nice lake.

Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 07:58 PM (bqIVz)

69 Ironic the Commie Crommel became famous doing a movie about a talking pig?

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 07:58 PM (/WQyy)

70 68 Saw a picture of Lake Tahoe going dry. Shame, it is such a nice lake.
Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 07:58 PM (bqIVz)

It'll be back in a couple of years... maybe even next year.

If you look at its history, the water level goes up and down quite a bit.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 08:01 PM (mP0Kj)

71 Wonderful selection, Ace.

I 2nd The Sheep Detectives. It was a hoot.

Posted by: Adriane the Baaaaaaa d Critic . . . at July 17, 2026 08:09 PM (3ZUWJ)

72 The Olive Oil garden Never Ending Pasta Pass requires a valid ID.
It is easier to vote than to get 2 or 3 fucking breadstick at the Italian Chilis.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:10 PM (/+uur)

73 Is that a picture of the Virgins waiting for the brave IRGC Warriors ????

Posted by: Jack Meehoff at July 17, 2026 08:10 PM (38587)

74 Are lakes in Texas are higher than in last decade.
Monsoone level floods this year.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:11 PM (/+uur)

75 Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (O0L8i)

Congratulations to The Big Dummy, and all involved ...

Posted by: Adriane the Baaaaaaa d Critic . . . at July 17, 2026 08:11 PM (3ZUWJ)

76 Weird ass mutant raccoon.

https://tinyurl.com/98ufvh3s

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 08:11 PM (ndZc7)

77 74 Are lakes in Texas are higher than in last decade.
Monsoone level floods this year.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:11 PM (/+uur)

Calif is so big that its climate can be in different trends in the same year... so some Lakes? OK, some not so.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 08:12 PM (mP0Kj)

78 Maine Senate Candidate also Special Teams O Line

https://photos.app.goo.gl/SzXT9ff8Co4dkEAb6

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:13 PM (/+uur)

79 Saw a picture of Lake Tahoe going dry. Shame, it is such a nice lake.
Posted by: Case

The top 5 feet are a reservoir.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2026 08:14 PM (NnhvP)

80 Calif is so big that its climate can be in different trends in the same year... so some Lakes? OK, some not so.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 08:12 PM (mP0Kj)

Remember that $30 B bill to fix you lakes about 20 years ago.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:14 PM (/+uur)

81 Non sequitut:

Diversity alone is not our strength.

Diversity in unity is our strength.

That's the point of E pluribus unum.

Many people.... one People.

Those who want to be capital D Diverse so badly they jettison the very idea of a common culture, a common People, a common vocabulary of being... it won't work. It has never worked. It will never work.

If you love your characteristics more than you love your own humanity, you'll never find the fabled Unity you strive for.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 08:15 PM (rGE1V)

82 I would like to ask Roger Daltry if he's glad that he hasn't died before he was old

Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 17, 2026 08:15 PM (jrgJz)

83 Remember that $30 B bill to fix you lakes about 20 years ago.
Posted by: r hennigantx

The one they used the money to blow up dams?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2026 08:16 PM (NnhvP)

84 Lakes were way down when I was in TX. Then some flash flooding for 3 days, and they were up to the spillway.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 08:16 PM (wOO3z)

85 Who?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 08:16 PM (rbvCR)

86 76 Weird ass mutant raccoon.

https://tinyurl.com/98ufvh3s
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 08:11 PM (ndZc7)

I saw Weird Ass Mutant Racoons ina double feature with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles at the Gemini on Forest Lane in 1988.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:17 PM (/+uur)

87 The young, unpaired cocks that hang around the edges of a penguin colony are known as "hooligans".
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 17, 2026 07:35 PM

Whereas the colony of penguins is a conspiracy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 07:54 PM (Wnv9h)


Actually it is called a "scrum". That is the reason the unpaired cocks get called Hooligans.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 08:18 PM (rbvCR)

88 Very Smokey here. Woke up to the smell of burning plastic, got better during the day.

Posted by: Accomack at July 17, 2026 08:19 PM (T8bqm)

89 The one they used the money to blow up dams?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2026 08:16 PM (NnhvP)

Can you imagine sitting in front of 40 4th grader saying that to save water we blew the fuck out of damns.

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:19 PM (/+uur)

90 Meow-rolled when its 90F and 75% humidity. That's just piling on. I'm gonna think of some payback after my nap.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 08:19 PM (sYM3s)

91 Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are the sound of FREEDOM!

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 08:20 PM (LHPAg)

92 88 Very Smokey here. Woke up to the smell of burning plastic, got better during the day.
Posted by: Accomack at July 17, 2026 08:19 PM (T8bqm)

Well I woke up Friday mornin
No way to hold my head
That didnit hurt

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:20 PM (/+uur)

93 76 Weird ass mutant raccoon.

He has short spine syndrome, poor guy.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 08:21 PM (hftzA)

94 Evening, Ace, and Cafe layabouts!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 08:21 PM (1z8ji)

95 First coffee I had wasn’t bad
So I had one more

Posted by: Accomack at July 17, 2026 08:22 PM (T8bqm)

96 91 Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are the sound of FREEDOM!
Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 08:20 PM (LHPAg)

My birthday is the 10th and I always wanted to be on Pensacola that week.

We lived in Destin for about 8 or so years and I love the Blues

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:22 PM (/+uur)

97 93 76 Weird ass mutant raccoon.

He has short spine syndrome, poor guy.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 08:21 PM (hftzA)
Yeah, poor guy. Maybe he'll be the next Stephen Hawking of the raccoon universe.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 08:23 PM (LHPAg)

98 These adults are really fucked up.

Posted by: Cali 4th grader at July 17, 2026 08:23 PM (wOO3z)

99 That's the point of E pluribus unum.

-
The beautiful and charming Linda Sarsour has thoughts.

Canary Mission
@canarymission
DSA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.
"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”
This is an attack on everything America stands for.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 08:23 PM (ndZc7)

100 86 76 Weird ass mutant raccoon.

https://tinyurl.com/98ufvh3s
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 08:11 PM (ndZc7)

I saw Weird Ass Mutant Racoons ina double feature with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles at the Gemini on Forest Lane in 1988.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:17 PM (/+uur)

this is about me, isn't it...

Posted by: Rocket... at July 17, 2026 08:24 PM (mP0Kj)

101 I'm interested in seeing both movies, but not opening weekend, maybe in a few weeks.
Posted by: LizLem at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (Eng1Z)

Well, I plain don't go to movies at all, anymore. But any movie with a tranny in it is "avoid at all costs".

Well, if the movie showed a tranny being fed through a wood chipper, maybe...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 08:24 PM (1z8ji)

102 DSA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.
"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”

Beating women and fucking goats.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 08:25 PM (wOO3z)

103 Beating women and fucking goats.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 08:25 PM (wOO3z)

Beating women and fucking goats

Posted by: Arkansaw at July 17, 2026 08:26 PM (/+uur)

104 It is going to be a long summer, I think I am running out of jars.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 07:22 PM (rbvCR)

It really, really sucks to run out of jars when you have tools stuck in the hole.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 08:27 PM (1z8ji)

105 Beating women and fucking goats.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 08:25 PM (wOO3z)

103 Beating women and fucking goats.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 08:25 PM (wOO3z)

Beating women and fucking goats
Posted by: Arkansaw at July 17, 2026 08:26 PM (/+uur)

hahaha

Posted by: Arkansaw at July 17, 2026 08:27 PM (/+uur)

106 My favorite Sarsour moment was when she threatened to take Ayaan Hirsi Ali's vagina away.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is Somalian.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 08:27 PM (gKWVE)

107 ha

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:27 PM (/+uur)

108 Evening, Ace, and Cafe layabouts!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 08:21 PM

Evenin', AOP.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 08:28 PM (Wnv9h)

109 106 My favorite Sarsour moment was when she threatened to take Ayaan Hirsi Ali's vagina away.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is Somalian.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 08:27 PM (gKWVE)

FGM is not a time zone

Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:28 PM (/+uur)

110 >>>Poor golden retriever has had his bed stolen by an evil kitten.

Alternate description:
Pet owner waits until dog is away from bed. Then places kitty on bed, starts filming and calls dog.

I especially liked the part where the kitty climbed up on top of the dog and used him for a bed.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 17, 2026 08:28 PM (syz1S)

111 Yeah, poor guy. Maybe he'll be the next Stephen Hawking of the raccoon universe.
Posted by: Eromero

Or Gary Coleman.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 08:29 PM (ndZc7)

112 Been hazy all day in Pa

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 08:30 PM (xWme4)

113 With a name like Sarsour.........

Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 08:30 PM (bqIVz)

114 Has Canada put out their wild fires yet?
Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 07:47 PM (bqIVz)

Fires are in in Ontario, I think, which is a turd-world shithole. No smoke here in Alberta. It was humid as fuck here all day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 08:31 PM (1z8ji)

115 Been hazy all day in Pa

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 08:30 PM (xWme4)

-----------------

I should change my nic to Ben Hazy.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 08:32 PM (joaLd)

116

Jimothy, Jimothy
Where on earth did you go?
Jimothy, Jimothy
God, why don't I know?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 08:33 PM (Cqx++)

117 Are lakes in Texas are higher than in last decade.
Monsoone level floods this year.
Posted by: r hennigantx at July 17, 2026 08:11 PM (/+uur)

75 Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (O0L8i)

As of tomorrow, Lake Travis will be completely full for time first time since I've lived here. The rain didn't even seem all that intense.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 08:34 PM (lCppi)

118 that rickroll is so very bad.
Posted by: toby928(c)

Well ain't much you can do with a rickroll.
Posted by: Eromero

They almost always let you down.
Posted by: mikeski, ironically at July 17, 2026 07:52 PM (VHUov)

Never. Never. Never.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 08:36 PM (lCppi)

119 DSA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.

"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”

----------------

lol gf

For REAL Americans, The Declaration of Independence is "The Ark of Our Covenant."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 08:36 PM (joaLd)

120 @114.

AOP
Good that you don't have to cope with the smoke. But you take care. Humidity is no fun either.

Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 08:38 PM (bqIVz)

121 Owing to the monsoon rains recently in Northern AZ, our bird bath status is "full."

And today for the first time, the little creek running through our yard had some flow (as the ground was too dry previously.

Our small city has two decent-sized lakes that are quite low however as we've been in at least a decade-long drought.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 08:40 PM (joaLd)

122 Evening, Ace, and Cafe layabouts!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 08:21 PM

Evenin', AOP.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Not ACE so self identifying as...!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2026 08:41 PM (NnhvP)

123 CNN has learned from a reporter working for the national Inquirer that Space Aliens replaced Trump brain with Hitler's Brain back in 1946.

The reporter discovered that when Hitler died on 30 April 1945 that his brain was placed aboard an Alien Spacecraft and prior to Trump's birth on June 14, 1946 transported into his body by Alien technology that Elon Musk has in his possession in a secret location in Liechtenstein.

So, CNN has determined in conclusion that Trump is Hitler ....

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at July 17, 2026 08:41 PM (qD4Ju)

124 Sounds like corruption to me,

Natalie Winters
@nataliegwinters
·
3h
EXC: Some of the biggest names in media participated in private dinners and China trips organized by a Chinese Communist Party influence operation seeking to generate “favorable coverage” and “disseminate positive messages” about China.

The outlets named include:

• CNN
• The New York Times
• The Washington Post
• Reuters
• The Wall Street Journal
• Bloomberg
• BBC
• Associated Press
• TIME
• The Atlantic

Posted by: The Beatles at July 17, 2026 08:42 PM (E4rtv)

125 “ they jettison the very idea of a common culture, a common People, a common vocabulary of being... it won't work. It has never worked. It will never work.”

That’s exactly what they really mean by “Diversity is Our Strength” Depends on your definition of “we”, but they mean them. It’s a de facto wrecking ball to the existing form of government and is intended to be. Everything.

They are masters of bait and switch. “We all need to get along” and “Treat everyone equally” don’t judge people based on their ethnicity or race, but on their character. Now it’s various flavors of “Whitey needs to Die”. This is eliminationist invective at best, it’s always the same in every country, at least so far.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 08:42 PM (r2olS)

126 Lake Tahoe isn't dry.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 08:43 PM (unqOZ)

127 That’s exactly what they really mean by “Diversity is Our Strength” Depends on your definition of “we”, but they mean them. It’s a de facto wrecking ball to the existing form of government and is intended to be. Everything.


Name one invention from a Communist Country or Diversity Filled African Shit-hole Country that changed the world ?????

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 08:45 PM (IEljh)

128 126 Lake Tahoe isn't dry...


Someone stole the water from Lake Tahoe ???

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 08:47 PM (IEljh)

129 @ 126.
No one said Lake Tahoe is dry.

Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 08:47 PM (bqIVz)

130

How about replacing the Koran?
"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 08:48 PM (Cqx++)

131 @SaraGonzalesTX

I asked Senator Thom Tillis about his vote against the Save America act and whether it has anything to do with the money [$700k] he’s receiving from industries who profit off of cheap illegal labor.

He was VERY mad about the question.

https://tinyurl.com/r5wu5jj8 [what an asshoe]



[next day] @SaraGonzalesTX

RINO Thom Tillis is so MAD about me calling him out for voting AGAINST the Save America Act that he’s talking about me on the Senate floor!

https://tinyurl.com/2cwvhh7x

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 08:48 PM (VQ0bX)

132 Canada is Dry

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 08:49 PM (Cqx++)

133 Seems that Nolan has a core set of actors that he likes to work with ? Like Hathaway and Damon for example. Even that broken Page person. He worked with her before. I hear that Page's role is minor. It really is about Odysseys' journey. Through life.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 08:49 PM (GD0B3)

134 So far I hear things like "masterpiece" said about it, so it might be worth seeing.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 08:50 PM (GD0B3)

135 Name one invention from a Communist Country or Diversity Filled African Shit-hole Country that changed the world ?????
Posted by: Jackson K.

Rubik's Cube

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 17, 2026 08:50 PM (DZ9Lv)

136 129 @ 126.
No one said Lake Tahoe is dry.

Posted by: Case
---

Yes. But is it neat?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 08:51 PM (VQ0bX)

137 Soooo, I see in the side bar that a federal court struck down jersey's "assault weapon" and magazine ban. Not sure what that means. Is everything legal all of a sudden, or do we have to jump through 1000 more hoops?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 08:51 PM (S41Gd)

138 119:DSA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.

"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”



You mean the Koran. No. Go suck start a hand grenade.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 17, 2026 08:54 PM (jrKun)

139 This is very good. From the DC Circuit no less.

>>@scotus_wire
·
1h
>>🚨 The D.C. Circuit has temporarily allowed the U.S. Postal Service to move forward with its proposed election-mail rule requiring states to submit voter lists and serialized ballot barcodes before USPS will mail federal ballots, staying a district judge's order.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 08:55 PM (viF8m)

140 68 Saw a picture of Lake Tahoe going dry. Shame, it is such a nice lake.
Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 07:58 PM (bqIVz)

129 @ 126.
No one said Lake Tahoe is dry.
Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 08:47 PM (bqIVz)

Really?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 08:56 PM (unqOZ)

141 138 119SA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.

"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”
---

We can send them home in peace.
The window of opportunity is closing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 08:57 PM (VQ0bX)

142 >>Soooo, I see in the side bar that a federal court struck down jersey's "assault weapon" and magazine ban. Not sure what that means. Is everything legal all of a sudden, or do we have to jump through 1000 more hoops?

It means your governor is angry tweeting on X right now. Best part is the judge who wrote the opinion was appointed by Biden.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 08:57 PM (viF8m)

143
wtf does Sarsour mean by "replacing" the Declaration of Independence? That's not how it works. You declare independence from whatever authority is CURRENTLY overseeing you. It's utterly meaningless for the US to rewrite its declaration of independence from 18th century England.

What you need to do, you idiot, is draw up the DSA's declaration of independence from the United States. Then you establish a capital, pick a leader, maybe write a constitution, establish a currency, all that stuff. Of course you won't have a military or police or any of that yucky oppressive stuff -- notice i said nothing about drawing borders -- and then you start trading and sending out diplomatic missions and stuff.

Jesus iced, watch a video game you idiot. It's basic world-building.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 17, 2026 09:00 PM (mmrXZ)

144 We can send them home in peace."

"Pieces"

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 09:00 PM (XuXeR)

145 Jesus iced, watch a video game you idiot. It's basic world-building.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 17, 2026 09:00 PM (mmrXZ)

I am guessing she is not a huge fan of Crusader Kings II.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 09:02 PM (zZu0s)

146 Navy claims it will finally have a properly working Zumwalt destroyer on the sea by September.

Posted by: Meat Loaf (2 Words, Motherfuckers) at July 17, 2026 09:02 PM (BI5O2)

147 41 I think it's because all Asian girls look the same from a distance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

And up close even more.

Posted by: Nordic Princess at July 17, 2026 09:05 PM (hVCM7)

148 It’s a weird feeling doing what you were always doing, although no longer a potential felon.

Many years ago, I was pulled over by the police and had a pistol confiscated. “Why do you have a gun?”

“Well … ya never know”. He didn’t say anything. They made me pick it up after showing the permit to purchase.

There are no permits required to carry in my home state now. At some point, you have to decide if you want to “follow the law” or not. The crooks don’t, leaving decent, peaceble people at a deadly disadvantage. This is not legal advice. LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 09:05 PM (r2olS)

149 Replace all existing copies of the Koran with Hustler Magazine, National Hog Farmer, and Canine Chronicle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 09:06 PM (BI5O2)

150 @119:
For REAL Americans, The Declaration of Independence is "The Ark of Our Covenant."

that is SO well put!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 17, 2026 09:08 PM (VyBeY)

151 Soooo, I see in the side bar that a federal court struck down jersey's "assault weapon" and magazine ban. Not sure what that means. Is everything legal all of a sudden, or do we have to jump through 1000 more hoops?

Pretty sure there will be a motion to stay the ruling pending an appeal to SCOTUS so I don't expect you'll be able to go to your local shop tomorrow and find ARs on the shelf. But it's a big step in the right direction.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2026 09:08 PM (vTZFs)

152 DSA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.

"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”

***

Well there skippy. When you try to set up in my little town, don't be surprised when you encounter some resistance. And we (neighbors and I) won't be bound by any Rules of Engagement.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 09:09 PM (2WIwB)

153 The top photo is from the failed Fleetwood Mac-Pink Floyd mashup.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 17, 2026 09:09 PM (DZ9Lv)

154 Replace all existing copies of the Koran with Hustler Magazine, National Hog Farmer, and Canine Chronicle.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 09:06 PM (BI5O2)

Illustrated korans, with a big fold-out of old mo' being buggered by the men of Al Zutt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 09:10 PM (1z8ji)

155 Been hazy all day in Pa

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 08:30 PM (xWme4)



Not to be confused with a Hazy IPA.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 09:10 PM (2WIwB)

156 There are no permits required to carry in my home state now. At some point, you have to decide if you want to “follow the law” or not. The crooks don’t, leaving decent, peaceble people at a deadly disadvantage. This is not legal advice. LOL
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 09:05 PM (r2olS)

Texas says Eromero can carry. Eromero has ALWAYS carried.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 09:11 PM (LHPAg)

157 Also, snatch that bitch Sarsour up in the middle of the night and release the Muslim Brotherhood cunt to the custody of the Saudi bone saw boys that gave Jamal Khashoggi his due.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 09:11 PM (BI5O2)

158 >>Pretty sure there will be a motion to stay the ruling pending an appeal to SCOTUS so I don't expect you'll be able to go to your local shop tomorrow and find ARs on the shelf. But it's a big step in the right direction.

It's the clear reading of the Constitution. The DOJ is suing California for a very similar thing. Slowly but surely 2A rights are going to be restored all across the country.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 09:12 PM (viF8m)

159 Howdy folks!

Just got home.

Beautiful boat ride home. Sunny and 70 on the beach. Alki Art Fair this weekend! So fun!

Cheers!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 09:13 PM (AATb+)

160 we used to call it the "judged by 12 or carried by 6 clause"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 17, 2026 09:13 PM (VyBeY)

161 Pretty sure there will be a motion to stay the ruling pending an appeal to SCOTUS so I don't expect you'll be able to go to your local shop tomorrow and find ARs on the shelf. But it's a big step in the right direction.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2026 09:08 PM (vTZFs)

They have been selling ARs here again for the last few years because they specifically reversed the ban on that. This new ruling will cover everything else. FN-FALs, AKs, M1As, Spas 12, UZI, etc. You know, the good stuff. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:14 PM (S41Gd)

162 Some of the biggest names in media participated in private dinners and China trips organized by a Chinese Communist Party influence operation seeking to generate “favorable coverage” and “disseminate positive messages” about China.

The outlets named include:

• CNN
• The New York Times
• The Washington Post
• Reuters
• The Wall Street Journal
• Bloomberg
• BBC
• Associated Press
• TIME
• The Atlantic
Posted by: The Beatles at July 17, 2026 08:42 PM (E4rtv)


Makes ya wonder just what kind of compromising information the Chinese were able to entrap with that crowd.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 09:15 PM (2WIwB)

163 119SA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.

"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”

——-++

Does she mean the constitution?

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 09:16 PM (Dd38x)

164 157 Also, snatch that bitch Sarsour up in the middle of the night and release the Muslim Brotherhood cunt to the custody of the Saudi bone saw boys that gave Jamal Khashoggi his due.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 09:11 PM (BI5O2)

Poetry.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:16 PM (Ot/FD)

165 It means your governor is angry tweeting on X right now. Best part is the judge who wrote the opinion was appointed by Biden.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 08:57 PM (viF8m)

I saw that. I was shocked. I read a lot of the decision. It was pretty good. I have a fucking headache now since it was a billion pages, but it was good. I didn't read any of the dissent though, they can just kiss my ass.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:17 PM (S41Gd)

166 does she even know what she means?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 17, 2026 09:17 PM (VyBeY)

167 Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”

——-++

Does she mean the constitution?
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 09:16 PM (Dd38x)

Do they even have the fucking motor skills?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:17 PM (Ot/FD)

168 Animals That Make No Sense in the Same Place
Casual Geographic (~16m)
https://youtu.be/r3V3hAqyzBo

Posted by: mindful webworker - critters! at July 17, 2026 09:17 PM (p+5Bi)

169
Pretty sure there will be a motion to stay the ruling pending an appeal to SCOTUS so I don't expect you'll be able to go to your local shop tomorrow and find ARs on the shelf. But it's a big step in the right direction.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2026 09:08 PM (vTZFs)




I'm still annoyed with most AR manufacturers for declining to go the Barrett route when Clownifornia banned 50BMG rifle sales.

"Your LEO agencies want to have us repair and service anything we built and sold to you in the past? Howza bout fuck you and fuck your boyfriend. Don't send us anything, even if it's under contract. In fact, you can take back all these rifles that are still in pieces in our shop. Good luck setting the headspace, you fucktards."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 09:18 PM (iqcvy)

170 "Gemini, build me a document that is our values. "

"That's a great idea. You're definitely thinking along the right lines. Have you tried Thorazine?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:19 PM (Ot/FD)

171 I'd rather replace Sarsour.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 17, 2026 09:20 PM (afJtY)

172 Canary Mission
@canarymission
DSA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.
"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”
This is an attack on everything America stands for.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 08:23 PM (ndZc7)


She is proposing to take away our Document that represents our values. This means she plans to impose other values on Americans. Bad idea.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 17, 2026 09:20 PM (OlzlW)

173 "Your LEO agencies want to have us repair and service anything we built and sold to you in the past? Howza bout fuck you and fuck your boyfriend. Don't send us anything, even if it's under contract. In fact, you can take back all these rifles that are still in pieces in our shop. Good luck setting the headspace, you fucktards."
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 09:18 PM (iqcvy)

and if the big Three Automakers had done the same back when Calif lost its mind and started regulating everything? Yeah, we'd be much better off today.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 09:20 PM (mP0Kj)

174 They have been selling ARs here again for the last few years because they specifically reversed the ban on that. This new ruling will cover everything else. FN-FALs, AKs, M1As, Spas 12, UZI, etc. You know, the good stuff. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:14 PM (S41Gd)

You know, somebody ought to build a cap&ball semi-auto carbine that uses reloadable steel cartridges for ammo. Straight blow-back action. Thirty-round mags. Shoot .36 caliber minie balls through a rifled barrel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 09:20 PM (1z8ji)

175 >>>Yeah, poor guy. Maybe he'll be the next Stephen Hawking of the raccoon universe.

Posted by: Eromero

>You mean the Stephen Hawking from the Epstein files, that poor guy getting some therapy? Didn't he believe that aliens would come here to kill us?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 09:20 PM (sYM3s)

176 Texas says Eromero can carry. Eromero has ALWAYS carried"

Man, as well. God bless Texas.

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 09:21 PM (XuXeR)

177 Illustrated korans, with a big fold-out of old mo' being buggered by the men of Al Zutt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---

Size training for bomb insertion is halal.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 09:21 PM (VQ0bX)

178 She is proposing to take away our Document that represents our values. This means she plans to impose other values on Americans. Bad idea.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 17, 2026 09:20 PM (OlzlW)

And what is amazing, is if you read the declaration, it is all about a Populace being able to control their own government... that they have a duty and right to change it if they think it is necessary.

She is literally advocating what the Declaration, says.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 09:21 PM (mP0Kj)

179 DSA member Linda Sarsour calls for replacing the Declaration of Independence.

"Do we have the audacity to…build a document that is our values?”


Sure, take you're little cult of commie goat fuckers, find a deserted island about 10,000 miles from here, and have at it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:21 PM (S41Gd)

180 They have been selling ARs here again for the last few years because they specifically reversed the ban on that. This new ruling will cover everything else. FN-FALs, AKs, M1As, Spas 12, UZI, etc. You know, the good stuff. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:14 PM (S41Gd)
These are a few of my favorite things.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2026 09:21 PM (LHPAg)

181 Does she want us to be subject to The Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland again?

....

Like.....


... What's your game plan, here?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:22 PM (Ot/FD)

182 Was Linda Sarsour born here?

Posted by: Wenda at July 17, 2026 09:22 PM (u84c/)

183 If the law would arrest the crooks and put them in jail instead of turning them loose and back on the streets maybe people would feel more safe. But now I don't blame people for carrying protection. As a matter of fact it makes sense.

Posted by: Case at July 17, 2026 09:23 PM (bqIVz)

184 You know, somebody ought to build a cap&ball semi-auto carbine that uses reloadable steel cartridges for ammo. Straight blow-back action. Thirty-round mags. Shoot .36 caliber minie balls through a rifled barrel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 09:20 PM (1z8ji)

A Modern version of the late 1700's Austrian Air Rifle... the one Lewis and Clarke carried... with modern machining?

Would rock.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 09:23 PM (mP0Kj)

185 Sure, take you're little cult of commie goat fuckers, find a deserted island about 10,000 miles from here, and have at it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:21 PM (S41Gd)

Make your own little Declaration of Clit Chopping Goatfuckery, and we'll cross another frozen river on Christmas to kill your dumb assses in your sleep.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:24 PM (Ot/FD)

186 181 Does she want us to be subject to The Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland again?

....

Like.....


... What's your game plan, here?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:22 PM (Ot/FD)

No, that is our plan...

Posted by: Supremes Birthright Citizenship Ruling at July 17, 2026 09:24 PM (mP0Kj)

187 Was Linda Sarsour born here?"

Si. 'Rents were Palestinian refugees...

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 09:25 PM (XuXeR)

188 find a deserted island about 10,000 miles from here, and have at it."

We're occupied.

/St Helena

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 09:26 PM (XuXeR)

189 A Modern version of the late 1700's Austrian Air Rifle... the one Lewis and Clarke carried... with modern machining?

Would rock.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 09:23 PM (mP0Kj)

There are some modern air rifles on the market now that are repeaters, with integral suppressors (no tax stamp required, as not a "firearm". Pretty cool shit. Thing is, black powder cap and ball guns are also not "firearms" in many jurisdictions. Make those carve-outs work for you!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 09:27 PM (1z8ji)

190 They have to change the Constitution to allow for a state religion

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2026 09:28 PM (bkuEU)

191 https://www.lindasarsour.com › bio
Bio — Linda Sarsour

Linda Sarsour is an author, award-winning
racial justice
and civil rights activist,
seasoned community organizer
and mother of three.
Ambitious, outspoken and independent,
Linda shatters stereotypes of ...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 09:29 PM (VQ0bX)

192 166 does she even know what she means?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez



Probably not. All that cousin humping really wrecks the IQ.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 17, 2026 09:29 PM (jrKun)

193 181 Does she want us to be subject to The Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland again?

....

Like.....


... What's your game plan, here?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:22 PM (Ot

History teachers, even the bad ones, are sighing out loud.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 09:31 PM (Dd38x)

194 Toasty here today & Cat just came in to *flop* on the cool tile floor. Could almost hear a sizzle as he stretched out LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 17, 2026 09:32 PM (rdVOm)

195 When The Crown held actual sway over this territory, simply intimating that you might maybe like to not be subject to the Crown would get you stretched by the fucking neck.

And here's this frog faced phony ass bitch with her gross ass uncovered face flopping in the breeze like a harlot screaming treason, and the collective Uncle Sam gives nary a fiddler's fuck about her nonsense because fuck her and her filthy whore face.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:32 PM (Ot/FD)

196 Makes ya wonder just what kind of compromising information the Chinese were able to entrap with that crowd.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 09:15 PM (2WIwB)

_____________________________

Have you ever heard stories about "The Vault" in Beijing? There are a couple very believable inteviews with high level businessmen who deal directly with China. The joke is that if they don't try to sneak something by in the final contract review, they're up to something else. These guys insist that they take selected individuals down below street level in Beijing to the "Vault" which is a large room containing an entire wall of "safety deposit boxes". If they bring you down there, they will show you a box with your name engraved on an attached brass plaque. They let you sift through the contents, and it is an unspoken bribe which is all yours if you accept, but obviously, it comes with certain obligations.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 09:33 PM (dIske)

197 Thing is, black powder cap and ball guns are also not "firearms" in many jurisdictions.
——

They are not firearms under Federal law. I would expect state and local jurisdictions think otherwise, and are classified as a “dangerous weapon” under state and/or local laws in any case.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 09:33 PM (r2olS)

198 >>Was Linda Sarsour born here?

Brooklyn. The Palestinian get up is a clown costume.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 09:34 PM (viF8m)

199 @libsoftiktok
BREAKING: Paul Pelosi charged with with a misdemeanor hit-and-run following crash in California

Posted by: stop - hammer time! at July 17, 2026 09:35 PM (gKWVE)

200 It's kind of annoying and neat and stupid all at the same time just how little State law and Federal law have to do with each other.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:35 PM (Ot/FD)

201 They are not firearms under Federal law. I would expect state and local jurisdictions think otherwise, and are classified as a “dangerous weapon” under state and/or local laws in any case.

Posted by: Common Tater
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Most states are either open or concealed carry OK.
The other states...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 09:36 PM (VQ0bX)

202 And here's this frog faced phony ass bitch with her gross ass uncovered face flopping in the breeze like a harlot screaming treason, and the collective Uncle Sam gives nary a fiddler's fuck about her nonsense because fuck her and her filthy whore face.

Bartender, I’ll have what he’s having! That’s fucking beautiful.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 09:36 PM (r2olS)

203 WA state treats black powder the same as modern guns.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2026 09:37 PM (bkuEU)

204
The Declaration of Independence is "The Ark of Our Covenant."

Posted by: ShainS

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 09:37 PM (VQ0bX)

205 Warai-otoko,
the past couple of days you have been on fire!

Posted by: Wenda at July 17, 2026 09:37 PM (u84c/)

206 Warai-otoko,
the past couple of days you have been on fire!
Posted by: Wenda at July 17, 2026 09:37 PM (u84c/)

Man, i been busy, so i when i can get here i just swan in and shit out some pent up nonsense and y'all just have to deal with it.

But thanks

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:38 PM (Ot/FD)

207 Most states are either open or concealed carry OK.
The other states...
——
My point is, one cannot say “Na na na na na nah…. This gun isn’t really a gun!”

That ain’t gonna work

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 09:39 PM (r2olS)

208 And here's this frog faced phony ass bitch with her gross ass uncovered face flopping in the breeze like a harlot screaming treason, and the collective Uncle Sam gives nary a fiddler's fuck about her nonsense because fuck her and her filthy whore face.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 09:32 PM (Ot/FD)

Impressive. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:41 PM (S41Gd)

209
There are some modern air rifles on the market now that are repeaters, with integral suppressors (no tax stamp required, as not a "firearm". Pretty cool shit. Thing is, black powder cap and ball guns are also not "firearms" in many jurisdictions. Make those carve-outs work for you!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 09:27 PM (1z8ji)




Plus, "antique" guns manufactured before 1898 are not "firearms". Like the Finn M39 Mosin-Nagant I bought about 15 years ago and had shipped to my door in Santa Barbara. Fully rebuilt in 1968 with a new 1968 barrel and stock for the Finn officer cadets, and never issued after being re-arsenaled. But the receiver was manufactured in 1896, so "not a firearm" and 100% legal.

The only problem is, I bought a couple of cases of 1940s Russian and Czech ammo that I can't use now because the jackets are bi-metal and magnetic. Last thing I need is to start a wildfire in the Sierras from hitting a random rock and producing a spark. So I'm stuck with commercial ammo or reloads, if I can find non-magnetic .312 bullets, which isn't always possible.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 09:41 PM (iqcvy)

210
Well, what happened with the Starship Flight 13 test last night was 4 Raptors on the Super Heavy failed to ignite, triggering the automatic abort.

They are going to swap out 2 of those 4 and try again on Monday.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:41 PM (w6EFb)

211
By the way, the Czech ammo is surplus military practice rounds. Solid bi-metal pistol bullets at about 40 grains with a full charge behind it. SPECTACULAR fireball, with virtually no recoil, and I clocked them with my chrono at around 3600 fps.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 09:44 PM (iqcvy)

212 Plus, "antique" guns manufactured before 1898 are not "firearms".
...
...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Winchester model 1895 lever action?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 09:44 PM (VQ0bX)

213 It's dinner. I brought you dinner.

See, the cat isn't the only one who can do this!

Posted by: dog with a 'friend' at July 17, 2026 09:44 PM (vDZgA)

214 WA state treats black powder the same as modern guns.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2026 09:37 PM (bkuEU)

Same in Jersey. Jersey treats BB guns the same way too. Which is really stupid. Oh, I just jumped through hoops to get a PISTOL permit for this BB pistol? Oh I have an idea, press that BB pistol in your ass, and give the frigging 357 mag.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 09:44 PM (S41Gd)

215 Well, what happened with the Starship Flight 13 test last night was 4 Raptors on the Super Heavy failed to ignite, triggering the automatic abort.

They are going to swap out 2 of those 4 and try again on Monday.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:41 PM (w6EFb)

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Why not swap out all 4 -- unless they want to test its ability without 2 of the Raptors?

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 09:45 PM (27aLr)

216 Well, what happened with the Starship Flight 13 test last night was 4 Raptors on the Super Heavy failed to ignite, triggering the automatic abort.

They are going to swap out 2 of those 4 and try again on Monday.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:41 PM (w6EFb)

If your Raptor fails to ignite, Bob Dole has the solution for you!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 09:45 PM (1z8ji)

217 The sheep, with quiet reflection and dedication have mastered the art of karate.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 17, 2026 09:46 PM (4g5V+)

218
If you remember on the last test flight, Flight 12, the Superheavy failed to properly relight for the boostback burn.

The cause of that was a too "aggressive" flip (turning its ass end where it need to point), which disrupted propellant flow, and messed up some sensors. The cause of that too strong flip was related to too much heat from the hot staging of the Starship itself. Or something like that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:46 PM (w6EFb)

219 >> Why not swap out all 4 -- unless they want to test its ability without 2 of the Raptors?

I'm assuming they think 2 of them are okay to go, but the other two aren't. No more information on that. They want all of them running before they takeoff.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:48 PM (w6EFb)

220 How is your Mama doing, publius?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 09:48 PM (1z8ji)

221 ********Name one invention from a Communist Country or Diversity Filled African Shit-hole Country that changed the world ?????
*********
AK-47

Posted by: Cosda at July 17, 2026 09:49 PM (mOa5T)

222 >> How is your Mama doing, publius?

Just got back. She's doing well, relatively speaking for a 96 year old that nearly killed herself falling. She wants to come home badly. And she will when they get her leg strength back up, and that big surgical wound on her legs heals up enough. That wound is more that we could handle at home for a while, I think.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:50 PM (w6EFb)

223 Yang Holy Words.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 09:51 PM (zZu0s)

224
The heat of the hot staging damaged some sensors, which caused some false alarm conditions or something. Result was that too aggressive flip somehow.

One it flipped itself so hard, the forces involved slung the propellants around, getting out of whack for the needed flow to the engines.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:53 PM (w6EFb)

225
I've always wondered about that hot staging. Don't like it. If it works, it works, but at first blush, I just don't like it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 17, 2026 09:54 PM (w6EFb)

226
Winchester model 1895 lever action?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 09:44 PM (VQ0bX)




Only if it's MANUFACTURED before 1898, it's not enough if the design itself was from that era.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 09:57 PM (iqcvy)

227 But the receiver was manufactured in 1896, so "not a firearm" and 100% legal.
——-

Under Federal Law

You guys gotta think this through. Most people don’t get charged with anything under Federal Law.
They get charged by the local cop shop or Sheriff’s department, the local DA.

You think you get a Get Out of Jail Free card here somehow?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 09:58 PM (bbqHZ)

228 U.S. MILITARY WINCHESTER
MODEL 1895 RIFLE
By Marc Gorelick, VGCA, and Tim Prince, College Hill Arsenal

Contains US military field trials 1899 assessment, Springfield Armory.
It's disappointing.

https://tinyurl.com/54ebm3aj

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 10:00 PM (VQ0bX)

229 Europe has similar laws. Black powder reproduction pistols have a bit of a following there, because acquiring a handgun permit is onerous and expensive.

The BP repros are astonishingly accurate. I wouldn’t want to carry one for self defense over modern cartridge firearms but they are perfectly serviceable and better than being unarmed

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 10:03 PM (bbqHZ)

230 Ont up

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 17, 2026 10:05 PM (w3u3d)

231 BREAKING: Paul Pelosi charged with with a misdemeanor hit-and-run following crash in California"

You've hit another car?

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 10:07 PM (XuXeR)

232 I don’t think I want to live to be 96.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 10:10 PM (8dYl7)

The Same Media That Pushed Hillary's Fake Opposition Research About Russia Collusion For Six Years Can't Believe Trump Is Alleging Election Irregularities

Hillary's oppo fictions were worth reporting -- but an actual scandal with actual documentation doesn't.

MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra

DECLASSIFIED

This is a December 2021 internal email from the U.S. intelligence community's top cyber official.

* In 2020, the official intelligence assessment said certain Chinese units were not trying to influence the U.S. election (only general "issue" stuff). The email writer disagreed -- he thought they were.

* A newer report now says China is influencing another election and labels the same units as "election influence" operations.

The writer questions why the same activity gets called "election meddling" in one place but not in the U.S. -- and calls for oversight.

This shows the double standards in how U.S. intelligence judged Chinese election interference.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra


🚨 SHOCKING: FBI Director Wray Signed Off as FBI Called China Election Meddling Warning an "Absolute Red Line"

In a December 30, 2020 email, top FBI Counterintelligence official Nikki Floris slammed a draft Intelligence Community Assessment on the 2020 election.

She warned that including the minority view -- which said China did try to influence the election -- was unacceptable and called it "an absolute red line for the FBI."

Director Wray had already signed off on the main ICA text.

The FBI pushed hard to keep the China "yes they interfered" view buried or heavily downplayed.

Floris accused the dissenting comments of being misleading and lacking proper evidence.

It shows Wray signed off on the main report that said China didn't try to mess with the 2020 election.

The FBI team then fought hard to keep the part that said China did try from being included.

Brian Stelter
@brianstelter


CNN's Kaitlan Collins: "We'll be monitoring what the president says tonight, as we always do, but aren't taking it live, given the president has a well documented history of saying blatantly false things about elections."


The media aired all of James Comey's false allegations -- made WITHOUT EVIDENCE, as Jake Tapper's gay chirons lisp -- without challenge.


CNN claims that no one is stuffing these unsecured drop boxes. But they did happen to film a woman stuffing ballots into an unsecured drop box.


It just turns out this is so common that when you do a random shot from a ballot box, you're bound to catch someone stuffing the box.


Flashback: Hillary Clinton, whose husband was elected with China's straw donations made through "nuns" with no money, expressly called for China to interfere in the US elections on the Democrats behalf -- which they did.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 06:00 PM




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1 ta da

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 06:01 PM (n5tGW)

2 1

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 06:01 PM (GD0B3)

3 Remember:
Not one Dem anywhere has ever said the Steele Dossier was fake.
Not even the part about Trump paying prostitutes to urinate on the bed in Moscow that Obama slept on.

Not one.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2026 06:02 PM (3cUTc)

4 THIS CANNOT BE GOOD FOR THE CHILDREN !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 06:03 PM (xl8DV)

5 10,000 Chinese Waiters Can't Be Wrong

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 06:03 PM (uzmqU)

6 Wellp

Posted by: H at July 17, 2026 06:04 PM (gVd9B)

7 Trump is just a lying liar who lies.
The Media

Posted by: steevy at July 17, 2026 06:05 PM (YwEeS)

8 Gonna go out on a limb and guess they are not saying "You're repeating Chinese propaganda!" if you don't believe China did that.

Also, won't be heard: "AMERICA WAS ***ATTACKED!!!!!!!!***"

Posted by: Gilligan 10 Years On the Island at July 17, 2026 06:05 PM (Fi81e)

9 Commie News Network doesn't want people to know about commie interference in elections. Shocker.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 06:05 PM (n5tGW)

10 CBS: Yeah, we only cover the news we agree with.


Excellent job, Bari Weiss!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 06:05 PM (4KUe5)

11 They lie as naturally as they breathe

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 06:06 PM (xcxpd)

12 Richly rewarded

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 06:06 PM (Cqx++)

13 Trump is just a lying liar who lies.
The Media
Posted by: steevy at July 17, 2026 06:05 PM (YwEeS)
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All the new papers to be released were all debunked by older government curated releases!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:06 PM (Fi81e)

14 A few well placed shots might cause the left to reevaluate their current MO.

Just saying.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 06:06 PM (jehhT)

15 Wray, Comey and the whole FBI are a bunch of fuck sticks.

Get rid of that God forsaken agency already. Haven't they done enough damage to the country?

Posted by: Big Pile Of Shit at July 17, 2026 06:07 PM (45BvE)

16 And yet no one over there is going to see this insanity for what it is. Rationalized away no matter the mental gymnastics required.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 06:07 PM (hftzA)

17 14 A few well placed shots might cause the left to reevaluate their current MO.

Just saying.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 06:06 PM (jehhT)

more than a few, just to be sure

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 06:08 PM (xcxpd)

18 Old and busted MSM: Vote fraud never happens, you can’t prove it!

New hotness: LALALALALA we can’t hear you or see your proof.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 06:08 PM (4KUe5)

19 Ah, Rachel Maddow interviews the Optimus Prime of election denial on the subject of election denial.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:08 PM (Fi81e)

20 the fact that the media is forced to deny the possibility that china might influence our elections just illustrates the depths of the perfidy of orangemanbad.

Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 06:09 PM (qdr3M)

21 If you loved your country and cared about truing the vote you would say this needs to be known. CNN and dems do the opposite. They know cheating only goes one way.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 06:09 PM (n5tGW)

22 "Judges who never heard these cases ALREADY DEBUNKED ALL THIS!!!"

(Disclaimer: I was not a Stop-the-Steal guy)

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:09 PM (Fi81e)

23 TRUMP!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2026 06:10 PM (DbmIv)

24 NO STANDING!

Posted by: 496 at July 17, 2026 06:10 PM (OZXjq)

25 The media is shocked, shocked that there's Chinese interference going on around here.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:11 PM (6ydKt)

26 If you loved your country and cared about truing the vote you would say this needs to be known. CNN and dems do the opposite. They know cheating only goes one way.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 06:09 PM (n5tGW)
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All of the broadcast networks but Fox flat-out carried the Democrat water last night!!

Prime, Grade-A bullshit.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:11 PM (Fi81e)

27 I wonder how many will actually look at the intelligence reports. They show Russia and China WERE meddling in the elections... on Trump's behalf.

Why were the Chinese more successful when Trump was president at rigging elections against Trump than during Biden's term. Otherwise, Trump would not have won. Conclusion: Trump's elections are less secure because he lost but somehow democrats elections are more beneficial to Trump.

The mental gymnastics his worshippers have to do to believe this is astounding. If only they did the same to understand what’s actually happening

Trump, you ARE thr deep state. Literally everyone involved is sketchy, wielding influence they shouldn’t have, manipulating an entire country to make everything as profitable as possible for themselves, right down to the Epstein files.

He and the MAGA movement have been in the government for 10 years. He had a 4 year break but the MAGA people were still in office. Isn’t he the deep state at this point

Everyone needs to call their Congressional Reps to demand they vote against the SAVE act. It’s very important. Trump is desperately trying to rig the next election

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 06:11 PM (5/BQI)

28 America's not buying it.

CNN Poll Shows 125% Of Americans Don’t Believe Trump’s Claim Of Election Fraud

-
From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 06:11 PM (ndZc7)

29 Here' s a couple of tidbits that should be stored as threads to the rotten blanket of conspiracy the Dems engaged in to steal elections:

- the person who received an Amazon delivery (of goods from China) filled with blank election ballots
- International Falls, MN customs seizes a shipment of over $900k in counterfeit $1 bills
- Somali airport workers in MN routinely waived through millions in cash leaving America
- affidavits were submitted in 2020 of mystery semi trailers full of ballots

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2026 06:11 PM (3cUTc)

30 the fact that the media is forced to deny the possibility that china might influence our elections just illustrates the depths of the perfidy of orangemanbad.

Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 06:09 PM (qdr3M)
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They're like the cheating spouse who wonders "So you're really going to make me lie to your face about this?"

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:12 PM (Fi81e)

31
Excellent job, Bari Weiss!
Posted by: Lizzy

===============

I don't even know why CBS long-timers are bitching. What difference is she making?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:12 PM (mmrXZ)

32 Lies and delusional thinking can only go so far before a horrific collapse occurs. The Dems may be seeing this now in their elections coming up and in their fund raising. If that's all that happens fantastic, but horrible violence also occurs because of such thinking. Read about leftist revolutions where the hard left destroys the softer left and it will happen again. And again. And again.....

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (OXYE0)

33 Like I said, they follow 1984 so closely that it's creepy that they have no self awareness of that fact.

Men are women

Lies are Truth

Murder is Resistance

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (/WQyy)

34 7 million Dem votes lost between Biden and Harris.

Come on, Media, aren't you just a wee bit curious?

No?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (6ydKt)

35 We Chinee
We play joke
We put pee pee
In your vote

Posted by: A Heathen Chinee at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (MWfyi)

36 The reality based community appears to have an issue with reality.

How are we supposed to share a country with people who just ignore facts and insert their own made up shit as reality? Seriously, it's like dealing with a particularly stupid 3 year old.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (viF8m)

37 I guess they've all forgotten China sending money to Bill Clinton's campaign in 96, and that wasn't the first time China was dicking around in our elections.

Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (VJX5o)

38 We should have been more skeptical of the Russia collusion thing. To make up for it, we’ll be extra of these allegations.

The media

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (u73oe)

39 Prime, Grade-A bullshit.

And consider that no one even had a chance to look at the documents at that point. Yet they dismiss it immediately.
This is what they call "journalism".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 06:14 PM (n5tGW)

40 I wonder how many will actually look at the intelligence reports. They show Russia and China WERE meddling in the elections... on Trump's behalf.
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1. IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!

2. IF IT'S TRUE--THEY COULD ONLY BE HELPING TRUMP CHEAT!!

Orwellian doublethink is complete.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:14 PM (Fi81e)

41 MSM two-step:

1. Trump only lies.

2. We won’t cover anything he says because he’s a known* liar (based on our reporting).


Dunno, looks like China has been‘ credibly accused’ and that’s the same a totes guilty for one side.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 06:14 PM (4KUe5)

42 And consider that no one even had a chance to look at the documents at that point. Yet they dismiss it immediately.
This is what they call "journalism".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 06:14 PM (n5tGW)
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And why I call it urinalism.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:15 PM (Fi81e)

43 34 7 million Dem votes lost between Biden and Harris.

Come on, Media, aren't you just a wee bit curious?

No?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: SpeakingOf

The far Left analyst guests are curious, and violently debate the reason: is America more sexist or racist?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 06:15 PM (5/BQI)

44 The Left have more projection than a person who just ate lettuce at Taco Bell .

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:15 PM (/WQyy)

45
Everyone needs to call their Congressional Reps to demand they vote against the SAVE act. It’s very important. Trump is desperately trying to rig the next election
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions

================

Do they have the slightest idea what's in the SAVE Act?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:16 PM (mmrXZ)

46 Without evidence.
Debunked.
Old news.
What different does it make?
Squirrel!

The TDS journalism (il)logic tree progression.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 06:16 PM (lCppi)

47 I guess they've all forgotten China sending money to Bill Clinton's campaign in 96, and that wasn't the first time China was dicking around in our elections.
Posted by: huerfano

Ah, Crenis gives us prans fo pranes.

Posted by: Ho Lee Fuk at July 17, 2026 06:16 PM (wOO3z)

48 Jake Tapper should really, really not get so close to the camera.

Uffdah.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 06:17 PM (lCppi)

49 37 I guess they've all forgotten China sending money to Bill Clinton's campaign in 96, and that wasn't the first time China was dicking around in our elections.
Posted by: huerfano

I assumed Swalwell was the one doing the dicking around with Fang Fang, unless....!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2026 06:17 PM (5/BQI)

50 guess they've all forgotten China sending money to Bill Clinton's campaign in 96, and that wasn't the first time China was dicking around in our elections.
Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (VJX5o)

No controlling legal authority

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:17 PM (/WQyy)

51 7 million Dem votes lost between Biden and Harris.

Come on, Media, aren't you just a wee bit curious?

No?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:13 PM (6ydKt)

um, racism?

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 06:18 PM (lCppi)

52 Do they have the slightest idea what's in the SAVE Act?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:16 PM (mmrXZ)

No fucking clue. Their overlords to them to oppose this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 06:18 PM (wOO3z)

53 Yeah, Bari Weiss is pulling them only slightly back towards the middle. The CBS staff seem pissed simply for having to show a minor bit of restraint.

Honestly, Stelter’s tweet is d@mning, admitting they straight up recto cover some news - a speech - instead choosing to spend time debunking it for the opposition. How do you “pre ink” a speech that hasn’t happened yet? That’s not news, that’s propaganda.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 06:19 PM (4KUe5)

54 I don’t think China has to do anything elaborate to interfere in our elections. They have millions of Chinese illegals here casting illegal votes that nevertheless get counted.

There’s a reason Democraps are shitting bricks out of their monkeypoxed assholes like howitzer shells.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 17, 2026 06:19 PM (HwHEG)

55 MSM two-step:

1. Trump only lies.

2. We won’t cover anything he says because he’s a known* liar (based on our reporting


He lied over 30,000 times his first term! It's science! We documented it and everything, 100% objective and true!!!

Posted by: Washington Post Trump Firsf Term Fact Checker at July 17, 2026 06:19 PM (5/BQI)

56 The left has convinced themselves, out of existential necessity, that Trump is trying to steal the election with the SAVE Act by requiring voter ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:20 PM (6ydKt)

57 When ~50% of the people are wish-cast-locked ...

It's almost like you can't say there is a future for that country.

They can conceive that Russia helped Trump to win, but they can't conceive that the reality actually was Putin preferred Hillary.

However, they can't concede that China interfered to prevent a Trump victory, but they can imagine that China really wanted to help Trump and so THEN interfered.

It's not possible for the side to be actually reversed in one case, and it's the only possibility in the other.

Depending on their wish-casting.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:20 PM (Fi81e)

58 52 Do they have the slightest idea what's in the SAVE Act?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:16 PM (mmrXZ)

No fucking clue. Their overlords to them to oppose this.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

If Trump’s fer it, we're against it.

Posted by: Mindless Dem NPCs at July 17, 2026 06:20 PM (5/BQI)

59
Hilary Clinton. So utterly evil, so utterly fake and plastic in public.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 17, 2026 06:21 PM (biznJ)

60 @LeadingReport
Trump admin moving to de-bank illegal immigrants, per Stephen Miller

Posted by: #winning at July 17, 2026 06:21 PM (gKWVE)

61 I think the hardest thing in the world to do is to get people to accept reality. I miss Scott Adams -- he understood the value of persuasion.

We need a critical thinking class in all schools. I think it could cover
-science and the scientific method
-legal rules of evidence and justice
-political conflict and how reality is manipulated
-argumentation, fallacies, and persuasion
-corruption and conflict of interest

It seems half our country hangs on to these crazy ideas and I can't really think of a long term solution other than a lot of helicopters.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 06:21 PM (f6IDb)

62 If they could , the left would put your head in a cage with a rat until you agreed with their insanity.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:21 PM (/WQyy)

63 Shot opens.

LeBron James sitting in a locker room, reading (the first page) of How To Be A Better Woman. He looks up, as if surprised to find you there, and says, "I just spoke to my good friend, Chairman Pooh, and he assured me that allegations of China interfering in US elections hold no more validity than people saying that I flop in games." He then begins singing "March of the Volunteers".

Fade.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 06:21 PM (ExV1e)

64 um, racism?

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 06:18 PM (lCppi)

7 million is a lot of racism.
Even for a racist, white supremacist, nation like the U.S.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:21 PM (6ydKt)

65 The left has convinced themselves, out of existential necessity, that Trump is trying to steal the election with the SAVE Act by requiring voter ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:20 PM (6ydKt)
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Tom Thillis (yes, I know) said that documenting the vote would only "confuse the election".

You can't hate the Republican party enough.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:22 PM (Fi81e)

66 Polynykes, they are too young to remember a Clinton scandal from 92(?).

Obama’s guy Rhoda’s had one thing right: theyre all around 27 and dumb. The older ones like Tapper are fully committed to The Narrative.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 06:22 PM (4KUe5)

67 Get rid of that God forsaken agency already. Haven't they done enough damage to the country?
Posted by: Big Pile Of Shit at July 17, 2026 06:07 PM (45BvE)


The same could be said about almost every federal agency.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 06:22 PM (ExV1e)

68 "Trump admin moving to de-bank illegal immigrants, per Stephen Miller"

It's about f'n time. I'm looking at you in particular, Bank of America.

Posted by: fd at July 17, 2026 06:22 PM (MWfyi)

69 Ever wonder why tyrannical revolutionaries take out the academics and media/coms first during the initial purge? CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBCNOW, et al are why.

A frustrated population with "news" they know has failed them (along with flailing political leadership) is receptive to a power that "corrects" things. So the fact that there's an overcorrection by the new tyrants is not only expected, it's pretty much guaranteed. Corrupted media leads to its own homicide.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 17, 2026 06:22 PM (oji8u)

70 Hey Kaitlin, he is giving you the docs that prove he was telling the truth about elections. What? Oh I see, you don't care about evidence.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 06:23 PM (n5tGW)

71 It seems half our country hangs on to these crazy ideas and I can't really think of a long term solution other than a lot of helicopters.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus)

A Vermeer or Morbark woodchipper is definitely more cost effective.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 06:23 PM (wOO3z)

72 Do they have the slightest idea what's in the SAVE Act?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:16 PM (mmrXZ)
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It's Jim Eagle!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:23 PM (Fi81e)

73
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 06:21 PM (ExV1e)

==============

Bravo!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:24 PM (mmrXZ)

74
International Falls, MN customs seizes a shipment of over $900k in counterfeit $1 bills

Might as well counterfeit pennies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 06:24 PM (Cqx++)

75 54 I don’t think China has to do anything elaborate to interfere in our elections.

Posted by: Elric the Blade

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Yes, I am sure they just wanted all the voting records because they were curious.

Ballot stuffing starts with access to voter rolls, and inability for the public to verify, canvass before the vote that people exist, and verify afterward that they really voted.

I think *most* illegals don't vote. That still leaves enough to change an election, especially in certain areas, but I think the main cheat was false ballots made out in the names of real people off the rolls.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 06:25 PM (f6IDb)

76 Ever wonder why tyrannical revolutionaries take out the academics and media/coms first during the initial purge? CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBCNOW, et al are why.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 17, 2026 06:22 PM (oji8u)
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It's just like long-term the only thing a judiciary can do is fuck up and get a lot of civilians killed. And then the representative parts of government have to fix their mess. Because the World dast to defy their theories.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:25 PM (Fi81e)

77 It seems half our country hangs on to these crazy ideas and I can't really think of a long term solution other than a lot of helicopters.
Posted by: bob

Banishment. There are people that refuse to fit in with society, and ideally they should be banished to some far off land.

The best part is a lot of the problem (AWFLs and young white commies) could be convinced to go voluntarily with a little Federal persuasion. Make a deal with some "socialist" country, give them $30,000 and free transportation, on condition they revoke citizenship, never to get it back.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 17, 2026 06:25 PM (5/BQI)

78 Think how much it would have been worth if it was $100 bills.

Posted by: fd at July 17, 2026 06:25 PM (MWfyi)

79 I’m shocked.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 06:26 PM (asZ+E)

80
*hic* *shart* *cackle*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 17, 2026 06:26 PM (sYM3s)

81 Massie, Cassidy and Tillis are burning down everything they can on their way out. They move to the top of my list.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:27 PM (/WQyy)

82 The left has convinced themselves, out of existential necessity, that Trump is trying to steal the election with the SAVE Act by requiring voter ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:20 PM (6ydKt)
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Trump is an existential threat to their bubble.

It's all hurty outside of that.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:27 PM (Fi81e)

83 Which means the GOPe is cheating as well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 06:28 PM (zZu0s)

84 LASue:

"Without evidence.
Debunked.
Old news.
What different does it make?
Squirrel!

The TDS journalism (il)logic tree progression."


The only step missing is "Steal Underpants."

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 17, 2026 06:29 PM (oji8u)

85 Trump either with loads of evidence of violations of broadcast standards regarding fair and honest reporting shuts down one—ANY one -of these propaganda machines or this charade of ‘reporting ‘ only gets worse.
Trump is starting to look weak. The monsters on the other side —ie virtually the MSm are NOT afraid or concerned.
Trump must MAKE them be concerned. Very concerned.
Yes, the propagandists will go to the courts immediately —so f’in what? You fight , you might win. All Trump is doing now is complaining . And none of these Commie networks cares what he says…..he must DO something.

Posted by: Voter theater. at July 17, 2026 06:29 PM (FCPbW)

86 Lots of organizations die when the founder dies. Hoover ran the F.B.I. for over 50 years.

Then the Fucksticks took over, and flipped the script. That’s what it looks like from out here in the cheap seats anyhow. We were regaled with tales during the Frank Church committee hearings how horrible it all was, and this sort or thing must never be allowed to happen again, blah blah blah.

Posted by: Three Daryl Night at July 17, 2026 06:30 PM (4DF5d)

87 I keep hoping that I'm only fuming at the funhouse mirror that the establishment press is.

Because black Americans don't seem to be backing off a widespread support for voter ID however much the Dems tell them "IT'S JIM CROW!!" I mean, it's like they can't vote in their own self-interest (a textbook Marxist will assign that to you, btw).

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:30 PM (Fi81e)

88 >>Massie, Cassidy and Tillis are burning down everything they can on their way out. They move to the top of my list.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:27 PM

Don't forget that asshole, Cornyn. He's busy proving why he needed to booted.

Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 06:31 PM (VJX5o)

89 It is absolutely central to the leftist worldview that they are always the underdog, the rebel, the heroic rebellion against The Man
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2026 05:49 PM (UZCuZ)

It is - but after the age of about 15 they realize it's all a bullshit excuse to justify aggression from themselves and those they agree with. They continue the story because admitting anything else would pop the bubble.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 06:32 PM (vE0+H)

90 Stupidest take ever is Trump is starting to look weak. In what bizarro universe is that happening? One may not like or agree what Trump does but it sure in the hell ain't out of weakness.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:33 PM (/WQyy)

91 Which means the GOPe is cheating as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 06:28 PM (zZu0s)

There it is.

And who are we asking to pass this? The people that have been cheated in. And I don't just mean the 4 or 5 people who are saying no.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 06:34 PM (vE0+H)

92 “ .. that Trump is trying to steal the election with the SAVE Act by requiring voter ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote”
—-
By any means necessary, aka do what thou wilt, is their philosophy. They don’t look at election fraud as cheating per se, voting 16 times is just doing whatever it takes. “Get Out The Vote” as it were. They think it’s their right to cheat, and so on.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 06:35 PM (4DF5d)

93 It's Comey, Behind The Curtains, With A Dildo In His Rectum...

Posted by: Clue 2: Deep State Boogaloo at July 17, 2026 06:35 PM (45BvE)

94 Stupidest take ever is Trump is starting to look weak. In what bizarro universe is that happening? One may not like or agree what Trump does but it sure in the hell ain't out of weakness.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:33 PM (/WQyy)

Especially dumb if your other take is "Trump is a uniquely awful Super Hitler who must be killed at any cost"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 06:35 PM (uhVAy)

95 Broadcast license revocation should be immediate for violation of the public trust after all this time.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 17, 2026 06:35 PM (YlWIZ)

96 If Trump is worried about Dems stealing an election, the answer is YOU CAN'T STEAL elections, dumbass!!!

If Trump wins, he stole the unriggable elections--WITH FOREIGN HELP!!

In 2020, Trump "loses", the Democrats who spent as long as they could trying to convince us "AMERICA WAS ATTACKED!!!!" through our elections, again assert THIS election was impossible to rig.

In 2024, Donald Trump wins again. So OF COURSE, he RIGGED it!!

I just can't be damnably dumb enough to be a Democrat. It's like the chameleon on the old Warner Brothers cartoon who gets a plaid background and cries out "I TRIED!! I TRIED!!"

I'm trying just to consider how I could play ping-pong with my mind like that and it hurts my head.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:36 PM (Fi81e)

97 You can raise these things to a certain level of awareness, but nobody cares because Sidney Sweeney did a new photo shoot of her splendorous tits.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 06:36 PM (sYM3s)

98 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton

Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.

2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.
_____________________________

She then links to "Indivisible" which is a State Dept. subcontractor (or was) that used to be used to start Color Revolutions in foreign nations...until Trump's second term. Then they aimed their resources towards a "color revolution" in the US. They were the primary funder of the "No Kings" nonsense. It's a good bet that a significant number of agency and State Dept. personnel that were given their walking papers by Trump are now involved in "Indivisiable.

Hillary really is a detestable growth.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 06:36 PM (dIske)

99 It is absolutely central to the leftist worldview that they are always the underdog, the rebel, the heroic rebellion against The Man
——-

That was clearly evident during the JEF administration. Their rhetoric reflected this perfectly. But it was pretty bizarre to hear it coming straight from inside the White House. Talk about delusional

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 06:37 PM (4DF5d)

100 Stupidest take ever is Trump is starting to look weak. In what bizarro universe is that happening? One may not like or agree what Trump does but it sure in the hell ain't out of weakness.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:33 PM (/WQyy)
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The weakest thing at all would be to wave the white flag and say we can't win without a new leader.

I consider that far weaker than the case that "Trump is starting to look weak".

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:39 PM (Fi81e)

101
it was pretty bizarre to hear it coming straight from inside the White House. Talk about delusional
Posted by: Common Tater

===============

lol I remember that. Lefties moved to tears: "President Obama is speaking truth to power!"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:40 PM (mmrXZ)

102 That was clearly evident during the JEF administration. Their rhetoric reflected this perfectly. But it was pretty bizarre to hear it coming straight from inside the White House. Talk about delusional

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 06:37 PM (4DF5d)
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The most powerful man in the free world said "I'm speaking truth to power" about patching a pipeline.

I shook my head so hard in utter disbelief that he hadn't updated his understanding.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:41 PM (Fi81e)

103 Republicans claim there is cheating in every election.

Democrats claim there is only cheating in the elections they lose and every other election is pure and perfect.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 06:42 PM (vE0+H)

104 Especially dumb if your other take is "Trump is a uniquely awful Super Hitler who must be killed at any cost"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 06:35 PM (uhVAy)
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Trump is an existential threat--but only the kind that always chickens out.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:42 PM (Fi81e)

105 My counties leftist legislature has asked the NYS to allow it to put in a high earners surcharge for taxing local wealthy. People are already leaving. This place got more left as NYC people moved here but the same results are expected.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 06:42 PM (OXYE0)

106 "HillaryClinton [...]
1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close..."


Right. Because election integrity isn't something Americans care about. And elections have absolutely nothing to do with voters trying to manage their lives or anything.

There's not an older, more sinister hack in the US that I can think of right now. Maybe George Soros. Let's call it a tie.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 17, 2026 06:42 PM (oji8u)

107 One of the best things that Trump ever did for the country is keep that filthy cunting bitch Hillary and her scumbag pervert husband out of the white house. Whatever Trump may do or not do, the country should be eternally grateful for that.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 17, 2026 06:44 PM (HwHEG)

108 Hag-bags-eye Hil always bobs her head for emphasis of certain words. I guess she hasn't discovered the bird hand emphasis or her claws can't do it.

Who let her out of Chappedick's woods? I still like the story, after she LOST to President Trump, of random people coming upon her lurching in the woods. I am sure with a box of chardonnay under her rancid armpit and a voodoo doll of Trump she stuck pins in every hour.

I used to like to imagine Hil and Bill's happy home there. The dialogue, the harpy shrieking, a padded room, Bill fleeing or never coming home...and often do wonder who is buried under the pool they filled.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 06:44 PM (hzuYO)

109 Katie Porter says she's done with politics after failed governor bid as she teases next chapter
trib.al/zEhbCDW

Posted by: #winning at July 17, 2026 06:45 PM (gKWVE)

110 Trump is like every other fascist dictator in history who sucked the cock of another foreign leader!! ("cockholster")

Hitler must have sucked Stalin's cock, because Trump PARALLELS HITLER!!

Trump paralleled Hitler so closely that the historical illiterates who couldn't bring up a single case except that they both were a type of populist and got popular were astounded.

I mean, these evidently historical illiterates, argued from gobsmacked incredulity that people who didn't think like they did JUST COULDN'T SEE IT!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:47 PM (Fi81e)

111
Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton-Clinton-Jeb! was the deep state plan.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 06:47 PM (Y8DZL)

112 Maybe Katie can take on a new identity as Potato Woman. She can dress up like Batman and drop her special recipe on miscreants from a high altitude

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 06:47 PM (gKWVE)

113 88 >>Massie, Cassidy and Tillis are burning down everything they can on their way out. They move to the top of my list.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:27 PM

Don't forget that asshole, Cornyn. He's busy proving why he needed to booted.
Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 06:31 PM (VJX5o

For this group who thinks they may have a shot at another political position- who do you think is going to be the ones you need to vote for you? Start giving people a reason to question why they voted you out, not confirm it!

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 06:47 PM (Dd38x)

114 90 Stupidest take ever is Trump is starting to look weak. In what bizarro universe is that happening? One may not like or agree what Trump does but it sure in the hell ain't out of weakness.
Posted by: polynikes



Well, Trump hasn't rounded up his political enemies, thrown them into a pit, and then pour boiling oil into the pit. So yea, he's kind of weak. I mean they keep calling him an authoritarian and tyrant, yet not once has Trump pushed Brian Stelter off a tall building. Very disappointing.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 17, 2026 06:47 PM (jrKun)

115 It's clear that since Katie Porter is leaving politics, her next step is OnlyFans

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 06:48 PM (OXYE0)

116 I used to like to imagine Hil and Bill's happy home there. The dialogue, the harpy shrieking, a padded room, Bill fleeing or never coming home...and often do wonder who is buried under the pool they filled.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

Clenis and Grandma Death haven't lived together since Jan 2001.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 06:48 PM (wOO3z)

117 #winning: "Katie Porter says she's done with politics after failed governor bid as she teases next chapter
trib.al/zEhbCDW"


I doubt it. She's done until she isn't. Certain personalities simply cannot let go. When the opportunity reappears - and they almost always do - the vampires rise again.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 17, 2026 06:49 PM (oji8u)

118 Hated this Outkick headline.

Sophie Cunningham manages to anger both the left and right with a simple social media post.

You know what she said. Basically whatsup with these data centers taking over usable farmland.

I think most of the horde is on her side. I'd love her to be an ette.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:50 PM (/WQyy)

119 115 It's clear that since Katie Porter is leaving politics, her next step is OnlyFans
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 06:48 PM (OXYE0)

This is not very nice!

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 06:50 PM (Dd38x)

120
@HillaryClinton

2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.

===============

Her intent is as dark and huge and insidious as anything. She would really like to let loose a harvest of snakes.

Thank God she's also limp and dull. Back in 2017, she had started this "RIPE" movement. Resist, Insist, Persist, Enlist. Get it? I don't think a damn thing happens because of Hillary, except that some silly people go to zoom meetings, strategy sessions, book signings, and fund raisers where 90% of the money goes to first-class plane fare for the featured speaker, likely some disaffected professor of Gender Studies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:51 PM (mmrXZ)

121 I wish Trump would have explained how the 2024 election theft was prevented (I presume white hats in the IC did it).

There was some reporting last year on this by Emerald Robinson, Patrick Byrne, and others -- but Trump exposing publicly would confirm that there were cheating methods in place (Venezuelan machines like Dominion, "The Serbian Server," et. al.) that had been identified and defeated.

I suppose there might be concerns about letting Our Enemies -- Foreign and Domestic -- know exactly what techniques you used to overcome theirs, giving them intel to which they can adapt and in the future overcome your countermeasures with their own new countermeasures.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 06:51 PM (FRcTi)

122 It's clear that since Katie Porter is leaving politics, her next step is OnlyFans
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 06:48 PM (OXYE0)

Oh boy! I can't wait to see what she can do with some potatoes au gratin! Yeah baby! Rub that in there...oh yeah! oh yeah!

Posted by: Bob Kraft, Pervert at July 17, 2026 06:51 PM (45BvE)

123 Repeating a comment I made elsewhere (b/c I have a limited number of ideas and repeat them often) - Talking about voting machines and Chinese interference just muddies the waters. None of that stole the election. Democratic operatives in this country stole the election, and they did it the old-fashioned way- by generating and counting fraudulent ballots, particularly mail in ballots, and having election officials in certain places putting their thumb on the scales to count, or not count.

You may say that the Chinese facilitated it, but good luck getting anywhere with that. Deal with the near enemy, not the far enemy. The near enemy in this country is far more dangerous, but the ability to reach out and touch them is also far greater. Problem is, the current election system benefits too many of the people who would be charged with fixing it.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 17, 2026 06:51 PM (QaH55)

124
Obama-Obama-Clinton-Clinton would have been the closing of the circle, with rump opposition parties splitting the vote with House, Senate and Supremes working seamlessly with talented technocrats forever.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 06:52 PM (Y8DZL)

125 Katie Porter and "teases" should not be used in the same sentence.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 06:52 PM (lCppi)

126 Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:47 PM (Fi81e)

Except Trump got over 50% of the vote in his election which Hitler never got.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:52 PM (/WQyy)

127 lol I remember that. Lefties moved to tears: "President Obama is speaking truth to power!"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:40 PM (mmrXZ)
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That's what B.O. said himself.

Probably somewhat rare here, but I actually gave the Big B.O. a clean slate.

After he shook the senior investors out of the Detroit car companies like bugs infesting a rug, I could be heard to say that he should be wearing orange.

His lawlessness was 100% akin to fascism. The government have "invested" into some of these car companies, they couldn't have the senior investors rip apart the company going into a unique receivership. So he shook them off and awarded 50% of the company to the unions where the conflict of interest was BLATANT.

Ripping owed capital away from people promised and giving it to political cronies. That's hallmark fascism.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:54 PM (Fi81e)

128
"Katie Porter says she's done with politics after failed governor bid as she teases next chapter
trib.al/zEhbCDW"

I doubt it. She's done until she isn't. Certain personalities simply cannot let go. When the opportunity reappears - and they almost always do - the vampires rise again.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel

===============

"Next chapter" my apter. She's thinking of the chapter AFTER that, which will be her return to politics. What she's doing in between will be carefully aimed at it. Consulting, teaching, speaking -- oh, and an appointment with the Ozempic doctor. She'll be new and fabulous for her triumphal return I'm sure.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:54 PM (mmrXZ)

129 Katie Porter and "teases" should not be used in the same sentence.
Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 06:52 PM (lCppi)

{shudder}

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 06:55 PM (vE0+H)

130 Well, Trump hasn't rounded up his political enemies, thrown them into a pit, and then pour boiling oil into the pit. So yea, he's kind of weak. I mean they keep calling him an authoritarian and tyrant, yet not once has Trump pushed Brian Stelter off a tall building. Very disappointing.
Posted by: Puddleglum

I myself would pay yuge money for the pay-per-view.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 06:55 PM (Y8DZL)

131 None of that stole the election. Democratic operatives in this country stole the election, and they did it the old-fashioned way- by generating and counting fraudulent ballots, particularly mail in ballots, and having election officials in certain places putting their thumb on the scales to count, or not count."

True.

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 06:55 PM (XuXeR)

132 Hillary is the ultimate "doormat". Her husband abused her, her girlfriend dumped her; maybe some leftists think she's important. History will not be "kind"...

Posted by: pahound at July 17, 2026 06:55 PM (AjR4+)

133 She then links to "Indivisible" which is a State Dept. subcontractor (or was) that used to be used to start Color Revolutions in foreign nations...until Trump's second term. Then they aimed their resources towards a "color revolution" in the US. They were the primary funder of the "No Kings" nonsense. It's a good bet that a significant number of agency and State Dept. personnel that were given their walking papers by Trump are now involved in "Indivisiable.

Hillary really is a detestable growth.
Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 06:36 PM (dIske)

I always thought she was a cyst, but she's more of a puss filled tumor .

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 06:56 PM (lCppi)

134 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:51 PM (mmrXZ)

__________________

Back in early 2017 Donna Brazill just about had a cow when she learned that Hillary was controlling the purse strings of the whole DNC. I remember some very harsh words from Brazill and then she suddenly went quiet. They had brought her into shore up the party. The first thing she did was take the credit card out of Hillaries clawed fingers.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 06:57 PM (dIske)

135 >> I wish Trump would have explained how the 2024 election theft was prevented (I presume white hats in the IC did it).

Last night was just the table setting speech. There's not a chance in hell that was a one off. There will be a lot more documents and detail to come.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 06:57 PM (viF8m)

136 ...not once has Trump pushed Brian Stelter off a tall building

TACO

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2026 06:57 PM (vTZFs)

137 Hillary is that mentally unstable and unlikable butch lesbian everyone has come into contact with at some point in their life.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:58 PM (/WQyy)

138
Maybe Katie can take on a new identity as Potato Woman. She can dress up like Batman and drop her special recipe on miscreants from a high altitude
Posted by: gKWVE


Extra lumpy and extra sticky.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 06:58 PM (Cqx++)

139 109 Katie Porter says she's done with politics after failed governor bid as she teases next chapter
trib.al/zEhbCDW

Posted by: #winning at July 17, 2026 06:45 PM (gKWVE)

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure if it's physically possible for Katie Porter be a tease anywhere at anytime.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:58 PM (6ydKt)

140 #winning: "Katie Porter says she's done with politics after failed governor bid as she teases next chapter
trib.al/zEhbCDW"

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She'd be great as a spokeshole for hot mashed potatoes.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 06:59 PM (FRcTi)

141
I think that Trump's speech last night was a bit like his "agreement" with Iran.

He's giving the Democrats and the Reps an opportunity to show that they are not corrupt dickweeds committing voter fraud on a regular basis and want secure elections by cooperating with securing the areas where voter fraud was worst, but

when they won't and will probably (in blue states) double down on the potential fraud.

That's when he'll hit them with the Guarantee Clause cuz he's got the stone cold proof, the only thing keeping the corrupt Dims and Reps from doing the right thing is...well, bone-deep, 100% Pure Dickweedery.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 17, 2026 06:59 PM (iJfKG)

142 Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:47 PM (Fi81e)

Except Trump got over 50% of the vote in his election which Hitler never got.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:52 PM (/WQyy)
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I mentioned that they were historical illiterates that couldn't bring up a specific instance that would impress someone that they knew what they were talking about.

They are myriad.

But a big one is: Trump was not appointed to his first position of national power by the actual head of state.

Even if you count January 6th as Trump's "Beer Hall Putsch" that's about all you can do. And besides they were saying this before January 6th ever happened.

Mein Kampf was written in prison to become a major force in a party. Art of the Deal was written so Trump could make himself more of a celebrity, long before he was working toward political aspirations.

There are just NO major parallels.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 07:00 PM (Fi81e)

143 Obama stopped speaking truth to power as soon as he got any power.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 07:00 PM (6ydKt)

144 "Hillary is that mentally unstable and unlikable butch lesbian everyone has come into contact with at some point in their life.
Posted by: polynikes"

I avoid one local auto parts store because one of those bitches works there. She's got what I call a SFA. A shitty fucking attitude.

Posted by: fd at July 17, 2026 07:00 PM (MWfyi)

145 Anybody who puts out a happy birthday to the future president and a picture of herself deserves whatever is coming to her. Looking at you Hill

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 07:00 PM (OXYE0)

146 I'm trying just to consider how I could play ping-pong with my mind like that and it hurts my head.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:36 PM (Fi81e)


It's been awhile since GamerGate, but I think it was Literally Wu that had mused about the need to 'mindkill' himself daily, to keep the politically incorrect thoughts at bay. Memorable, because horrifying, because who could live like that?

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 07:01 PM (Sy6m/)

147 Hillary is that mentally unstable and unlikable butch lesbian everyone has come into contact with at some point in their life.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:58 PM (/WQyy)

---------------

Every man's nightmare of the smug nagging wife.

El Rushbo always cracked me up when he called her "The Most Cheated On Woman In The World."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 07:02 PM (FRcTi)

148 Well, Trump hasn't rounded up his political enemies, thrown them into a pit, and then pour boiling oil into the pit. So yea, he's kind of weak.

Posted by: Puddleglum
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By Cesare Borgia standards, Trump is a transman.

So, yeah.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 07:02 PM (Fi81e)

149 [Babylon Bee headline:]

"Man Who Ate At Taco Bell Getting More Baja Blast Than He Bargained For"

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 07:03 PM (FRcTi)

150 I wish Trump would have explained how the 2024 election theft was prevented (I presume white hats in the IC did it).

Last night was just the table setting speech. There's not a chance in hell that was a one off. There will be a lot more documents and detail to come.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 06:57 PM (viF8m)

I am starting to see this as well. PDT knows well just how delicate the Republic is. He is an old man, but he will never surrender. He's got a great team of people with the same mindset. Perhaps our last best hope.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 07:03 PM (0aYVJ)

151 I would pay to see Katie Porter do a baywatch run down the beach in a bikini. Her fundraising would double.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 07:04 PM (sYM3s)

152 I did not understand why PDT distanced himself so completely from Pompeo. Perhaps bc Pompeo hand-picked Haspel to succeed him at CIA?

Posted by: EveR at July 17, 2026 07:05 PM (98rUz)

153 Between 2015 & 2025, over 80,000 Chinese nationals were officially recorded by U.S. authorities for attempting to enter the United States without authorization, predominantly crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.

During the 2015 to 2025 period, over 3.3 million Chinese nationals were enrolled in U.S. higher education institutions, making up roughly 25% to 35% of all international students in the country. Mathematics, Computer Science & Business were the most dominant fields of study for Chinese nationals. Overstays? Estimated at 40,000 to 55,000

There was a steady rise to a historic peak, followed by a sharp & continuous decline due to the pandemic, strict visa crackdowns, and rising geopolitical tensions. In 2023-2024, it dropped below 300,000; India overtook China as the #1 source.

Think tanks have estimated that 20,000 to 26,000 babies total are born annually in the U.S. to "birth tourists" from all countries combined, with China historically being one of the top countries of origin. Conservative groups & lawmakers presented data alleging that between 100,000 & 150,000 babies are born to Chinese parents in the U.S. each year, totaling an estimated 1.5 million over 15 years,

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 07:05 PM (NFX2v)

154 Basically whatsup with these data centers taking over usable farmland.

Because we want to hand over the entire AI industry over to China just like we did with every other industry.

That farmland can be better served for depleting the soil and the aquifers to provide feedstock for the ethanol industry and consume tax dollars in subsidies

Or that same land can be plowed over for another 1000 unit multi-family "affordable housing" which too is a net tax drain and does 100x more to add to noise and traffic while consuming almost as much water and electricity as the data warehouse that would have been a quiet tax and job producer.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 07:05 PM (a6PrB)

155 It's clear that since Katie Porter is leaving politics, her next step is OnlyFans
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 06:48 PM (OXYE0)
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Hell no. We refused her application.

Try OnlyPlatner.com

Posted by: OnlyFans at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (Fi81e)

156 NOOD cafe.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 07:06 PM (Fi81e)

157 "Man Who Ate At Taco Bell Getting More Baja Blast Than He Bargained For"
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 07:03 PM (FRcTi)

When they have to measure the emissions in Specific Impulse, they really do need to start vetting their vendors.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 07:07 PM (gKWVE)

158 Nood, y'all.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 17, 2026 07:08 PM (NcvvS)

159 I avoid one local auto parts store because one of those bitches works there. She's got what I call a SFA. A shitty fucking attitude.
Posted by: fd at July 17, 2026 07:00 PM (MWfyi)

These types are usually found in your local post office or Child and Family Services Center or any place where they hire based upon party affiliation and being a homosexual with purple hair and nose rings.

They usually lay in wait and pounce once a heterosexual white male ventures too close.

Posted by: Heterosexual And Loving It! at July 17, 2026 07:09 PM (45BvE)

160 109 Katie Porter says she's done with politics after failed governor bid as she teases next chapter
trib.al/zEhbCDW
Posted by: #winning

Finishing school, anger management classes, good girdle and a facelift for starters.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 07:10 PM (NFX2v)

161 it was the ozempic!

Posted by: pahound at July 17, 2026 07:11 PM (AjR4+)

162 Posted by: naturalfake at July 17, 2026 06:59 PM (iJfKG)

There it is.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 07:11 PM (vE0+H)

163 I'm trying just to consider how I could play ping-pong with my mind like that and it hurts my head.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:36 PM (Fi81e)

They say things if they think they are useful not if they are actually true.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 07:13 PM (uhVAy)

164 Ripping owed capital away from people promised and giving it to political cronies.
——-

Somebody smarter than I pointed out this upended about 900 years of financial precedent.

Bondholders are senior in a bankruptcy. There’s a reason for this. “Greed”’has nothing to do with it. Politics is often like letting toddlers operate highly complex machinery. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 07:14 PM (4DF5d)

165 They say things if they think they are useful not if they are actually true.
——

“We believe in truth, not facts” Joe Biden

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, though not their own set of “facts”. This is what they’ve done with “My Truth” or “Lived Experience” inculcated at the schools.

Any opinion, demonstrably false, no matter how insane, is equally valid to observed reality that we all share, that is not debatable as such. Stuff figured out 5000 years ago is suddenly open to debate. It’s really quite astonishing.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 07:20 PM (4DF5d)

166 Excellent job, Bari Weiss!
Posted by: Lizzy

===============

I don't even know why CBS long-timers are bitching. What difference is she making?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 06:12 PM (mmrXZ)

I think you can trust them on this. She's doing something they don't like.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 07:23 PM (uhVAy)

Scott Bessent: A Deranged Leftist Attempted to Assassinate Me Shortly After I Became Secretary of the Treasury
The New Republic: Don't You Understand You're Forcing Us Lefties to Murder You?

Gerald Posner
@geraldposner

🔥 At the State Department's Ministerial on the Resurgence of Political Terrorism, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent answered critics who doubt the seriousness of far left political violence by making the threat personal.

Off-script, he reminded the room -- delegates from roughly 65 nations -- that he was the target of an assassination attempt by a left-wing activist two hours after being sworn in. (Bessent gave the wrong year on camera -- he said 2024; the actual date was January 27, 2025 -- but the case is real: a guilty plea, a federal docket, sentencing set for August 14.)

Bessent also announced Treasury is expanding its financial enforcement authorities -- OFAC, FinCEN, IRS-CI -- to investigate nonprofits and charities being used as cover to finance political violence, saying "violence requires money, channels through which funding can move, and institutions behind which it can hide."

This is the same pattern Secretary Rubio has been warning about -- violent far-left extremism dismissed as fringe, until it's the Treasury Secretary himself.
Bessent's challenge to the skeptics: be there for the sentencing.

The New Republic makes the case for terrorism and assassination by mocking Bessent and asking him, doesn't he realize that he has forced people to "resist" in just this way?


Bonus:

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:45 PM




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Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM (GD0B3)

2 Seems like assassination attempts always come from the left.

Posted by: Emmie at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM (OlzlW)

3 I can't wait until the bullets are flying in their direction.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (Sco7b)

4 Bessent also announced Treasury is expanding its financial enforcement authorities -- OFAC, FinCEN, IRS-CI -- to investigate nonprofits and charities being used as cover to finance political violence, saying "violence requires money, channels through which funding can move, and institutions behind which it can hide."

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Good, good.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (GD0B3)

5 I coulda been first, but I read the content.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (Wnv9h)

6 was caught out using an exceptionally flattering AI image of herself to promote her memoir.

I don't see the difference.

(Body dysmorphia is still a recognized mental illness, right?)

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2026 04:48 PM (5/BQI)

7 That "she" in Maine's a he ...

And it ain't even close !

Posted by: browndog says woof at July 17, 2026 04:49 PM (3sXRv)

8 That tranny, wow

Posted by: Ventura Highway at July 17, 2026 04:49 PM (S+j2h)

9 was caught out using an exceptionally flattering AI image of herself to promote her memoir.

The worst Tinder catfishing ever?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2026 04:49 PM (5/BQI)

10 Situation Normal.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (Fi81e)

11 This is the same pattern Secretary Rubio has been warning about -- violent far-left extremism dismissed as fringe, until it's the Treasury Secretary himself.
Bessent's challenge to the skeptics: be there for the sentencing.

===


Look out for Communists !!

https://tinyurl.com/yfr9hj5s

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (GD0B3)

12 Dude looks like a lady is more Meatloaf than a lady.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (E4rtv)

13 1. The left does not do political violence.

2. Even if it does, it is because you haters deserve it. (You are here)

3. Leftist political violence is good and there should be much more.

Posted by: Ripley at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (GUOwU)

14 Don't want to be assassinated? Don't support or be part of a uniquely evil administration. The New Republic is right.

Posted by: Sid at July 17, 2026 04:51 PM (d3IoH)

15 8 That tranny, wow
Posted by: Ventura Highway
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Which way wow?

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:51 PM (E4rtv)

16 12 Dude looks like a lady is more Meatloaf than a lady.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (E4rtv)

/sings

I would do annnyyything for love...
But I won't do THAT.. no no... I won't do thatttttt

Posted by: Meatloaf at July 17, 2026 04:51 PM (mP0Kj)

17 The Troon from Maine is now the face of the democrat party.

How soon before it shoots up a school or local church?

Posted by: Pray The Gay Away at July 17, 2026 04:52 PM (45BvE)

18 PDJT isn't here to make your life better, that is up to you to do. His focus is taking down the impediments so that you can thrive without government

You’re minding your own business at home, cutting the grass or whatever. A man from the government shows up, smashes your kneecap with a hammer, and then hands you a crutch.

“Aren’t you glad I came along?”

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 04:52 PM (i1NbZ)

19
btw, Bessent accidentally said 2024. Should have been 2025.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 04:53 PM (mmrXZ)

20 "exceptionally flattering"

When your euphemism needs a euphemism.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 17, 2026 04:53 PM (yFLFB)

21 6 was caught out using an exceptionally flattering AI image of herself to promote her memoir.

I don't see the difference.

(Body dysmorphia is still a recognized mental illness, right?)


out: colorblind society
in: shapeblind society

Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 04:53 PM (qdr3M)

22 14 Don't want to be assassinated? Don't support or be part of a uniquely evil administration. The New Republic is right.
Posted by: Sid

While conservatives want to live under their rules (don't kill your political opponents), we're willing to live under our opponent's rules (kill your political enemies if you think they're tyrants) as long as the rule is applied equally.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (5/BQI)

23 I like how they refer to assassination attempts with the verb "resist".

That shines right through with convincing calm sanity and the moral upper hand.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (Fi81e)

24 Fun story that just broke,

"In a bizarre move, the Democratic National Committee required its senior leadership to sign non-disclosure agreements before a private meeting on the party's finances, according to two people familiar with the conversations who spoke to Axios. That alone is a break from past practice. DNC officers are high-ranking members of chair Ken Martin's team, not entry-level staffers. Officers at that level don't typically get handed a confidentiality agreement before they can hear how much money they have in their piggy bank and what they plan to do about it."

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (E4rtv)

25 I'm not totally convinced that Ashley isn't really a clean-shaven Platner with a Party City wig, trying to sneak back in the race incognito.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (bNf8H)

26 Maine's Trans Sister looks like the Pawn Stars guy in a wig.

Posted by: Bilwis - at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (w/O5Q)

27 Wow, Sid.

Your comment went straight to my heart. You’re right. Jeepers, man. How could I continue on?

My everlasting gratitude,

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (bWDwv)

28 Wait... nothing wrong with that, she looks just like him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (n5tGW)

29 Rubio's speech at this event was th absolute best I've ever heard anyone give on this subject.

Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (5vEC/)

30 For any newbs, Sid is the sock puppet of someone who parodies a crazy leftist.

Posted by: PabloD at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (QDulm)

31 Meet The New Republic...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (Cqx++)

32 They're the same picture!

Posted by: Bizarro World Pam Beasly at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (Fi81e)

33 out: colorblind society
in: shapeblind society
Posted by: anachronda

Out: Faith-based society
In: fantasy-based society

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (5/BQI)

34
I drink, but have never been so far into it that the picture on the right could look like the one on the left at 2 a.m. in any bar.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (Y8DZL)

35 8 That tranny, wow
Posted by: Ventura Highway at July 17, 2026 04:49 PM (S+j2h)


We learned in another thread that he has actual delusions about having female internal organs, despite medical imaging showing otherwise. I'm no doctor, but that sounds like full-blown schizophrenia.

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (Sy6m/)

36 It was just an eye-blink ago when the Commies were cheering on Lois Lerner and her Cincinnati confederates. Now they're targeting senior Treasury officials.

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (rj6Yv)

37 Thanks Sid, we were almost all out of crazy.

Posted by: Bizarro World Pam Beasly at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (Fi81e)

38 Funny they don't recognize the language of abuse.

"See what you made me do?"

"Baby, don't make me hit you no more."

"Now look what you did-- you made me try to kill you."

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (f6IDb)

39 That's one ugly woman. She gots the crazy-eyes to boot.

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (Ek9hi)

40 But I won't do THAT.. no no... I won't do thatttttt
Posted by: Meatloaf at July 17, 2026 04:51 PM (mP0Kj)

Can't wait for her to bust her way into here.

Posted by: der Mainegauleiter at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (gKWVE)

41 Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (E4rtv)

Signing an NDA must mean they're broke.

Posted by: beckster at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (kX27y)

42 Meatloaf — Two out of three ain’t bad…. But that dude is bad news no doubt about it. He does look like Meatloaf, Whig 😂

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (26GAh)

43 I know he's trying, but dude still doesn't look like a lady.

Posted by: Aerosmith at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (5/BQI)

44 Dude in a wig is such an eloquent speaker too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (n5tGW)

45 once again, looking at that picture, I miss Chris Farley

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 04:58 PM (gKWVE)

46 The only thing I can say about Webb is . . .


MEATLOAF!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 04:58 PM (rbvCR)

47 That’s a Man, Baby! Not a “herself”.

Never accept their false premises. Do not ever use their euphemisms or weasel word phrases. Ever ever ever. He can call himself Napoleon or Joan of Arc, but he can’t require you to do that. It is not incumbent upon anyone to humor mentally ill delusions or fairy tales. We do not have to live like this.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 04:58 PM (i1NbZ)

48 That pic is quite disturbing and funny at the same time.

Posted by: dantesed at July 17, 2026 04:58 PM (w1twS)

49 Sometimes I feel sorry for AI.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 04:58 PM (f6IDb)

50 It was just an eye-blink ago when the Commies were cheering on Lois Lerner and her Cincinnati confederates. Now they're targeting senior Treasury officials.
Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (rj6Yv)
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Remember what the Lois Lerner thing was about?

"How DARE conservatives organizations try to get out of paying taxes!! Do they expect the government to FUND their politics!!"

Countless billions of left-embezzling later, we're here.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:59 PM (Fi81e)

51
I wrote a book called "To Hell and Back." People bought it and read it. Actual people, not gendermutants scurrying around in a benighted forest like unseemly creatures from a fairytale.

And I wrote songs... popular songs that millions of people loved and many of you could recite lyrics from.

Stop comparing me to a Maine Senator. It's beneath my dignity as an author and songwriter.

Posted by: Meat Loaf (2 Words, Motherfuckers) at July 17, 2026 04:59 PM (BI5O2)

52 was caught out using an exceptionally flattering AI image of herself to promote her memoir.

The worst Tinder catfishing ever?
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2026 04:49 PM (5/BQI)

it may be artificial, but getting from picture 1 to picture 2 there can't be described as intelligence.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:59 PM (uhVAy)

53 The old saw is that leftists view violence as a dial to go up and down to achieve purposes--the right looks at it as a binary switch--no violence right up to the kill all the commies is thrown. Left likes indiscriminate violence, the right is much more purposeful when such occurs.

Only stupid people would want to turn on that switch but then again, leftism is inherently stupid as are their worn out ideas of Communism, racism, and other isms that Trotsky applied to western society so long ago.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (E4rtv)

54 The tranny's pronouns are xy and XY, all the damn day long.

Posted by: Science! at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (0hRE+)

55 Sid just literally justified murder for those who have different political opinions. What a maggot.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (qBdHI)

56 New Republic calling assassinations just resistance. Ahhh, the left... never let you down with their violence seeking.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (n5tGW)

57 like saying that oscar in a wig looks like gloria

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (CWTWj)

58 Funny they don't recognize the language of abuse.

"See what you made me do?"

"Baby, don't make me hit you no more."

"Now look what you did-- you made me try to kill you."
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (f6IDb)
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They don't recognize how bullies behave if it's advised as Saul Alinsky's rules.

It fucking does not surprise me.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (Fi81e)

59 Signing an NDA must mean they're broke.
Posted by: beckster at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (kX27y)
======

And they don't want their top contributors identified.

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (rj6Yv)

60 New Republic calling assassinations just resistance. Ahhh, the left... never let you down with their violence seeking.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (n5tGW)
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And their capacity to bend words to fit their crazy.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:01 PM (Fi81e)

61 52 it may be artificial, but getting from picture 1 to picture 2 there can't be described as intelligence.

more like inthelligence, am i right?

Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 05:01 PM (qdr3M)

62 The would be assassin said, "
This is terrible but I cant do nothing while nazis kill my sisters…"

So driven by FNM coverage 100%...

But until we start arresting and charging the people organizing leftwing terror cells this shit will continue

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 05:01 PM (sKqQm)

63 Signing an NDA must mean they're broke.
Posted by: beckster

Last required filing, DNC had twelve million on hand but 18 million in debt. RNC, no debt and well over 100 million. Same story on House and Senate party committees apparently. Seems socialism is not exactly something that floats big Democrat donors to give to that party.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (E4rtv)

64 There is a strain in Maine that is hard to contain.

Is there any product that is marketable coming out of Maine? Maple syrup maybe?

Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (8uzBS)

65 And I wrote songs... popular songs that millions of people loved and many of you could recite lyrics from.

Posted by: Meat Loaf (2 Words, Motherfuckers) at July 17, 2026 04:59 PM (BI5O2)

Also, your songs were used as background music for, um, strenuous fluid-exchange activities. Between beings with and sans a "front-hole".

Posted by: Thrawn at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (LviRI)

66 With all the focus on Trump's election speech yesterday that meeting Rubio, Bessent and others attended was pretty extraordinary too. 65+ nations working together to smoke out the money trails that feed leftwing dirtbags like antifa and BLM.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (viF8m)

67 Some good news today:

"US airstrikes appear to have collapsed a tower at Iran’s Chabahar port on the Gulf of Oman, a key trade route for Afghanistan, according to images shared by defence secretary Pete Hegseth.

Hegseth shared the image of the surveillance tower appearing to collapse, which had circulated on social media via activists prior to Hegseth sharing it."

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (edUvp)

68 Can you imagine going on a date expecting the girl in the purple dress and instead having Chunk from the Goonies show up?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (sKqQm)

69 sid is mad because the sperm bank ran out and he was still hungry

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 17, 2026 05:03 PM (CWTWj)

70 “Don't want to be assassinated? Don't support or be part of a uniquely evil administration”

You’re so cute when you throw a tantrum. LOL. I think it’s time for your nap.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 05:03 PM (i1NbZ)

71
Why did you make me rape you!!!????

Posted by: Graham Platner, Oyster farmer/rapist at July 17, 2026 05:03 PM (OkYzo)

72 Seems like assassination attempts always come from the left.
Posted by: Emmie at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM (OlzlW)
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There isn't a President that wasn't shot by somebody further to the left. (Maybe Garfield, but something tells me Giteau was not a Law n' Order guy.)

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:03 PM (Fi81e)

73 We learned in another thread that he has actual delusions about having female internal organs, despite medical imaging showing otherwise. I'm no doctor, but that sounds like full-blown schizophrenia.
Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM (Sy6m/)

Another sad case of intracranial lead deficiency.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (1z8ji)

74 There is a strain in Maine that is hard to contain.

Is there any product that is marketable coming out of Maine? Maple syrup maybe?
Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (8uzBS)

lobster.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (uhVAy)

75 These same people champion killing an infant up until birth for any reason. No surprises here.

Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (5vEC/)

76 And, as the journalists were walking out after listening to Bessent, they were kicking themselves for not labeling the would-be assassin a MAGA Republican, since he obviously wanted to assassinate the gay cabinet member.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (dIske)

77 Isn't it interesting how the left claims all political violence is right wing but they've murdered one of the rights most important political figures, tried to assassinate a rightwing president 3 times, tried to assassinate a rightwing cabinet official and tried to assassinate a rightwing SC justice?

Of course that "right wing political violence" is some Aryan nation scum bag shanking a Latin Kings scum bag in prison over a drug deal gone wrong...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (sKqQm)

78
Why did you make me sleep with you, you seductive interns!?

Posted by: Ruben Gallegos at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (OkYzo)

79 74 There is a strain in Maine that is hard to contain.

Is there any product that is marketable coming out of Maine? Maple syrup maybe?
Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (8uzBS)

lobster.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (uhVAy)

cups of kaffee.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (l3cgK)

80 And they don't want their top contributors identified.
Posted by: mrp

Nope, it is because they are broke--top contributors are reported to the FEC and the report cycles shorten as we approach an election. At some point it becomes monthly instead of quarterly and then even week by week. Hard to hide contributors anymore which is why the big Democrat donors like Reid Hoffman just fund a Superpac themselves instead of handing it to party apparatus. That though comes with a lot of limitations that party commitees don't have.

I think Hoffman has shelled out at least ten million recently for Talarico.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (E4rtv)

81 They need to check that fucker’s crawlspace out too.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 05:05 PM (i1NbZ)

82 Is there any product that is marketable coming out of Maine? Maple syrup maybe?
Posted by: DanMan
======
Somalian immigration and benefit fraud.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:05 PM (E4rtv)

83 Democrats, All My Life: Don't blame the victim!

Democrats Today: Don't make us kill you for not voting our way!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:05 PM (Fi81e)

84
There is no free will in the liberal Faith

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (OkYzo)

85 Giteau thought he deserved a govt sinecure so yeah a lefty thought stream.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (n5tGW)

86 I've been very impressed with Bessent. He seems like a happy warrior for our side. He has power and understands how to use it (and why it's important to use it).

It's surely not in the cards, but at this point I'd welcome him as the next president

Posted by: 496 at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (OZXjq)

87 These same people champion killing an infant up until birth for any reason. No surprises here.
Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (5vEC/)

and after. Don't forget that.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (uhVAy)

88 Officers at that level don't typically get handed a confidentiality agreement before they can hear how much money they have in their piggy bank and what they plan to do about it."
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (E4rtv)

Bet it's about the Act Blue investigation... that should soon be showing actual results.

Posted by: Meatloaf at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (mP0Kj)

89 She was asking for it wearing that short skirt.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (wOO3z)

90 Wall Street to the DNC:

"Sorry guys, we're busy moving our offices to Texas and Florida. We'll right back with ya as soon as we unpack the boxes! Swearsies!"

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (rj6Yv)

91 The New Republic makes the case for terrorism and assassination by mocking Bessent and asking him, doesn't he realize that he has forced people to "resist" in just this way?

We might have to cease our involvement with them.

Posted by: Jukt Micronics at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (gKWVE)

92 Oh, wow. That last tweet.

Right: what you think the girl youre texting with looks like.

Left: what she ACTUALLY looks like.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (zZu0s)

93 Seems like assassination attempts always come from the left.
Posted by: Emmie at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM


The bullets do seem to all be coming from the left. This is like the 60s and 70s, with the constant bombings. You would pick up the paper in the morning and read about the latest bombing or race riot.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (0N4FZ)

94 >>Is there any product that is marketable coming out of Maine?

lobstah

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (viF8m)

95 86 I've been very impressed with Bessent. He seems like a happy warrior for our side. He has power and understands how to use it (and why it's important to use it).

It's surely not in the cards, but at this point I'd welcome him as the next president
Posted by: 496 at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (OZXjq)

So, second Gay President?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (mP0Kj)

96 I've been very impressed with Bessent. He seems like a happy warrior for our side. He has power and understands how to use it (and why it's important to use it).

It's surely not in the cards, but at this point I'd welcome him as the next president
Posted by: 496 at July 17, 2026 05:06 PM (OZXjq)

Just rack em up as far as you can because we may need all of them to cover the time before the Dems learn to become Americans again, like after the Civil War.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (uhVAy)

97 As near as I can tell, Ashley Webb is the long-haired son of Jaws and the blonde chick in glasses from Moonraker.

No way you can legitimately repair that face with AI so he just prompted it with:
“Young, Pretty, Thin, Brunette, Girl, wearing a lavender dress, and working at a retail store holding a really weird looking horseshoe-shaped device on a desk.”

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (6ydKt)

98 Is there any product that is marketable coming out of Maine? Maple syrup maybe?
Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (8uzBS)
_________________________

Well, considering 90% of Maine is forests, I think you can guess what the cornerstone of their economy is. That's right....Whoopie Pies and blueberries.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (dIske)

99
That guy's picture as a woman is just a lighting trick photographers use. It's the same person. If you squint, close your eyes and don't look you'll see.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (OkYzo)

100 crazy days and I struggle to be optimistic about what happens when a fighter like Trump leaves the White House.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (xcxpd)

101 Scott Bessent is one of the most brilliant people President Trump gave a job to. I love him. I love to see him go calm murder hornet with a few slice and dice words to nitwit talking heads or reporters.

Ace, I love you as well for the new photo of our Ashley Webb. Who should be the mascot for today's insanity. Or a figurehead on the prow of a sinking ship (perhaps on the fag cruise that has been denied port in Egypt and Turkey...I refuse to spell that the way they want).

Ashley has made my Friday morning start off with choke laughter.

I then showed my husband the photo I took of him gorked out on happy medicine last night and we keep laughing about this...he wanted to kiss me goodnight and instead I erupted into loud laughing. He now knows why, bless him for putting up with me. His hair alone is enough to make me lose my mind in the photo. We are too scared to text it to our sons as it might go viral.

Anyone who falls for Ashley's catfishing photo and meets him at a restaurant may have started the exploding diarrhea expo across our land.

Not sure what type of dysmorphia Ashley has, but the fun mirror from the carnival has been found.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (hzuYO)

102 42 Meatloaf — Two out of three ain’t bad…. But that dude is bad news no doubt about it. He does look like Meatloaf, Whig 😂
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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But to my knowledge, Meatloaf never made appearances in a girl's bathroom at stores.

Nor asked people their pronouns.

Advantage Meatloaf may he rest in peace.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (E4rtv)

103 49 Sometimes I feel sorry for AI.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 17, 2026 04:58 PM (f6IDb)


It occurs to me -- since that made me think about who wouldn't -- that influencers have a reason to be prejudiced against AI data centers. Chasing views has trained them to *hate* The Algo, so if you explain AI to them as "basically a big, complicated algorithm," well... they have feelings about that.

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (Sy6m/)

104 So, second Gay President?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (mP0Kj)
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I laughed.

Posted by: 496 at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (OZXjq)

105 Speaking of fake magazines publishing bullshit

A powerful new AI tool has uncovered what could be one of the biggest integrity problems in modern science. After analyzing 2.6 million cancer research papers published between 1999 and 2024, researchers identified more than 250,000 studies with writing patterns resembling papers suspected of being produced by fraudulent "paper mills."
- from Queensland University of Technology

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (gKWVE)

106 The developing world has to be looking bar us and saying " they're so successful but they have many lunatics"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (OXYE0)

107 78
Why did you make me sleep with you, you seductive interns!?
Posted by: Ruben Gallegos at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (OkYzo)

The power of the Cannons is compelling...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (xcxpd)

108
I wrote a book called "To Hell and Back."

Sounds vaguely familiar.

Posted by: Zombie Audie Murphy at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (Cqx++)

109 Advantage Meatloaf may he rest in peace.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:08 PM (E4rtv)

+1

This twink is not fit to shine Mr Loaf's boots.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (zZu0s)

110 Top Trump official, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, was targeted in assassination attempt 2 hours after being sworn in

Sure he was. 🙄 Was it politically motivated or was it a Grindr hookup gone wrong… suppose both scenarios could be possible at the same time.

He must feel left out. Let us know when they're successful 🥱

I mean, his own party is doing most of the attempts, and terrorism, and aren't big on gays

Funny how none of these guys ever get killed when they're targeted for assassination. So many lousy shots in this country of Guns.

">Bessent was likely speaking about Ryan “Reily” Michael English, a 24-year-old Massachusetts man who pleaded guilty in March to charges related to attempting to kill Bessent in the U.S. Capitol. According to the Justice Department, English arrived in Washington on January 27, 2025, carrying two improvised Molotov cocktails and a folding knife. According to the affidavit, English walked up to an officer at the Capitol’s south door and stated, “I’d like to turn myself in.”

Thats the assassination attempt. Some mentally ill dude carrying a molotov turned himself in.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (5/BQI)

111 Burly men of of Maine like lobster and oyster sammiches I bet

Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (8uzBS)

112 The Left are Children of Hell and are in a desperate need to have their foreheads creased by a tire iron

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat Bastards & MSM InfoWhores at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (5DfsO)

113 83 Democrats, All My Life: Don't blame the victim!

Democrats Today: Don't make us kill you for not voting our way!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:05 PM (Fi81e)

::: Insert meme of dead man in chair, black man with gun, saying, "Why did you make me shoot this man?"... :::

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (l3cgK)

114 108
I wrote a book called "To Hell and Back."

Sounds vaguely familiar.
Posted by: Zombie Audie Murphy at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (Cqx++)

Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (zZu0s)

115 The girl in the purple dress looks a lot like Shannen Doherty when she was first doing 90210 in 1990.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (wzUl9)

116 I don't have a lot of CD's, but 4 Meatloaf ones are here within arm reach.

And Anne Murray and Alabama....

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (Sco7b)

117 The New Republic, which brought us the Scott Beauchamp and Elle Reeve fiasco, has done it again!

Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (VJX5o)

118 There isn't a President that wasn't shot by somebody further to the left. (Maybe Garfield, but something tells me Giteau was not a Law n' Order guy.)
Posted by: Axeman
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Guiteau was a mentally ill person that got rejected for a patronage appointment. So entitled in his head just like a leftist.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:11 PM (E4rtv)

119 111 Burly men of of Maine like lobster and oyster sammiches I bet

Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:10 PM (8uzBS)

Some want Rocky Mountain Oysters, raw...

Posted by: Don Lemon at July 17, 2026 05:11 PM (l3cgK)

120
These same people champion killing an infant up until birth for any reason. No surprises here.
Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (5vEC/)

____________

Until birth? Ask a Democrat if a fetus born alive has a right to medical treatment. You won't get an answer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 05:11 PM (flEsB)

121 Scott Bessent is one of the most brilliant people President Trump gave a job to. I love him. I love to see him go calm murder hornet with a few slice and dice words to nitwit talking heads or reporters.

===

The man did not need it, successful, billionaire, but he thought it was worth it to put his life on hold and do what he is doing. For which we all should be very grateful.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (GD0B3)

122 a long standing rule is that that hot woman you're chatting with online is probably a guy in india or pakistan. or sid

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (CWTWj)

123 That troon has murder in his eyes. Be very wary around that freak.

Creepy AF!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (0aYVJ)

124 104 So, second Gay President?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 05:07 PM (mP0Kj)
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I laughed.

Posted by: 496 at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (OZXjq)

>>>

The Obama brats have two daddies

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat Bastards & MSM InfoWhores at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (5DfsO)

125 Garfield was mostly killed by the Swedish Chef holding himself out as a doctor.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (gKWVE)

126 Until birth? Ask a Democrat if a fetus born alive has a right to medical treatment. You won't get an answer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Some go beyond that and argue killing someone outside the womb is permissible. Damn death cult is what it is.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (E4rtv)

127 122 a long standing rule is that that hot woman you're chatting with online is probably a guy in india or pakistan. or sid

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (CWTWj)

but not Paul...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:13 PM (l3cgK)

128 These same people champion killing an infant up until birth for any reason. No surprises here.
Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (5vEC/)

Imagine there were some kind of "test" to see if the fetus had a tendency to be trans - I think those abortions would be banned, huh?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 17, 2026 05:13 PM (w6EFb)

129 Is there any product that is marketable coming out of Maine? Maple syrup maybe?
Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:02 PM (8uzBS)


Timber, dimensional lumber, plywood veneer, pulp and paper, but most important, it is the path to the soft underbelly of New Brunswick!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 05:13 PM (rbvCR)

130 126 Until birth? Ask a Democrat if a fetus born alive has a right to medical treatment. You won't get an answer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Some go beyond that and argue killing someone outside the womb is permissible. Damn death cult is what it is.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (E4rtv)

I'm for killing someone outside the womb...rapists, child molesters, murders...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:13 PM (l3cgK)

131 Ashley Webb might be the most successful Maine candidate. Let's send a crazy person to DC the rest of our candidates suck

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 05:13 PM (OXYE0)

132 Ann Coulter wrote a thorough section in one of her books that outlined how it 99% of the time it was left leaning people who did the assassinations or attempts.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:14 PM (/WQyy)

133
Well, considering 90% of Maine is forests, I think you can guess what the cornerstone of their economy is. That's right....Whoopie Pies and blueberries.
Posted by: Orson


Whoopie Pie looks like a Yankee version of a Moon Pie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 05:14 PM (Cqx++)

134 128 These same people champion killing an infant up until birth for any reason. No surprises here.
Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (5vEC/)

Imagine there were some kind of "test" to see if the fetus had a tendency to be trans - I think those abortions would be banned, huh?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 17, 2026 05:13 PM (w6EFb)

Remember when the gays were all upset when a company came up with a cure for gay rams? ...

Posted by: Pepperidge Farm at July 17, 2026 05:15 PM (l3cgK)

135 Signing an NDA must mean they're broke.
Posted by: beckster at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (kX27y)
======

And they don't want their top contributors identified.
Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 05:00 PM (rj6Yv)

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For later prosecution purposes as these contributions are likely to be used to fund Antifa attacks.

Posted by: Decaf at July 17, 2026 05:15 PM (ZNpJk)

136 @libsoftiktok
BREAKING: Wisconsin Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez (D) has DROPPED her campaign for Wisconsin governor after “serious mismanagement and inaccuracies” were discovered in her campaign finance reports.
Jul 17, 2026 · 5:30 PM UTC

Posted by: idiot, you're supposed to skim AFTER the election at July 17, 2026 05:15 PM (gKWVE)

137 133
Well, considering 90% of Maine is forests, I think you can guess what the cornerstone of their economy is. That's right....Whoopie Pies and blueberries.
Posted by: Orson

Whoopie Pie looks like a Yankee version of a Moon Pie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 05:14 PM (Cqx++)

Whoopie Goldberg pie, on the other hand...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:15 PM (l3cgK)

138 "When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles."

Posted by: The Left at July 17, 2026 05:15 PM (V362x)

139 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 05:16 PM (n5tGW)

140 Ashley Webb. Just a tad psycho.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:16 PM (v0R5T)

141 The thing about perverts with autogynophilia who demand the whole world participate in their sexual fetish by being forced to pretend they lok like girtls:

They're so delusional, that when they look in the mirror, they actuall see the AI mage that the fat ugly tranny used to promote his memoir.

Just as an anorexic girl looks into the mirror and instrad of accurately perceiving her skeletal frame, she sees a "fat girl"staring back at her -- these AGP perverts literally see a pretty feminine girl in the mirror.

They are insane. And perverted. And power-mad.

Posted by: zombie at July 17, 2026 05:17 PM (Av6i5)

142 "A transgender Democrat vying to be the Senator for Maine in the wake of Graham Platner stepping down was caught out using an exceptionally flattering AI image of herself to promote her memoir."


That Tinder date is gonna be PISSED

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 05:17 PM (iFTx/)

143 140 Ashley Webb. Just a tad psycho.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:16 PM (v0R5T)

But is she hot?!

Posted by: Moron who forgets rules at July 17, 2026 05:18 PM (l3cgK)

144 Garfield was mostly killed by the Swedish Chef holding himself out as a doctor.
Posted by: gKWVE

Bork, bork, bork

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 05:18 PM (wOO3z)

145 You can't be reasonable with the mentally ill and 99% of the Left is just that.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:18 PM (/WQyy)

146 researchers identified more than 250,000 studies with writing patterns resembling papers suspected of being produced by fraudulent "paper mills."
- from Queensland University of Technology
Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 05:09 PM (gKWVE)


One of the biggest impediment to useful development of new technology and discovering new bits of science is the fraudulent paper. There are a couple of industry voices warning that western science is broken because of it, and they still can't figure a solution.

I can think of a couple, like making the final requisite for an MA to reproduce some Doctoral thesis as part of proof of Mastery, with extra points for falsifying it.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 05:19 PM (rbvCR)

147 Look at idiot Sid. Saying the quiet part out loud. What does he remind me of again...??? Oh yeah. Hitler. Don't want to be killed? Don't be a Jew. And Stalin. Don't want to be killed? Don't oppose me and prove it by giving up everything to the state. And Pol Pot. Don't want to be killed? Don't be educated or wear glasses. And Sid's leader, Mao. Don't want to be killed? Stop eating.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 05:19 PM (lCppi)

148 I love lefties and their mentality that they're saving the world. Have at it and see what happens.

Here's a message;

https://tinyurl.com/y8pmmvce

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 05:19 PM (sYM3s)

149 144 Garfield was mostly killed by the Swedish Chef holding himself out as a doctor.
Posted by: gKWVE

Bork, bork, bork

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 05:18 PM (wOO3z)

Garfield was a fat cat...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:19 PM (l3cgK)

150 Mr. Garfield’s been shot down, shot down, shot down

Mr. Garfield’s been shot, way down low


Yeah, Charles G. was a mental case, I think he wanted to be named (or felt entitled) to be an ambassador iirc. He may have even met with Garfield to discuss the situation, (besides the crackpot letters) in those days if he wasn’t too busy there was a waiting room at the WH where anybody could hang around for a while and maybe get a chance to talk personally with the President.

Don’t try this now

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 05:20 PM (i1NbZ)

151 78
Why did you make me sleep with you, you seductive interns!?
Posted by: Ruben Gallegos at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (OkYzo)


My mind is still boggled that this squat, slouching, cylindrical dork has (allegedly) tricked at least *four* adult women into playing with his peepee. He's even spawned! And married twice! It must be true what they say, that power is the greatest aphrodisiac.

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 05:20 PM (Sy6m/)

152
Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley


Poop at home, asshole.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 05:21 PM (Cqx++)

153 122 a long standing rule is that that hot woman you're chatting with online is probably a guy in india or pakistan. or sid

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (CWTWj)

but not Paul...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:13 PM (l3cgK)


But possibly Garrett.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 05:21 PM (lCppi)

154 But is she hot?!
Posted by: Moron who forgets rules
.......

Oh sure. Just a neck lift and some makeup, you're good to go.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:21 PM (v0R5T)

155 These same people champion killing an infant up until birth for any reason. No surprises here.

Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2026 05:04 PM (5vEC/)
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Interestingly enough, as an adult that was my first step back toward a faith.

When I had been a Catholic lad, I internalized the idea that abortion would lead to a degradation of the value of life.

As an agnostic/skeptic I laughed at the certainty. Of course religious people would be certain about things.

But finally, at the end of my disbelief, I couldn't help but see it. The Catholics/Christians had predicted it, and we were slipping that way.

While I didn't immediately attribute that to the exact same effect, I at least noted that Christians could be closer to the truth than scoffers who were positive they couldn't.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:22 PM (Fi81e)

156 Signing an NDA must mean they're broke.
Posted by: beckster

I thought that was already public knowledge? I thought I had seen tons of reports about how they're out if money, people joking (speculating) that it had to do with shutting down USAID and more Fed oversight of groups like ActBlue, etc?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 05:23 PM (5/BQI)

157 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley

Poop at home, asshole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
.......

But...but...public restrooms are so damn exciting!

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:23 PM (v0R5T)

158 152
Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley

Poop at home, asshole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

I don't understand the question?

Posted by: India at July 17, 2026 05:23 PM (5/BQI)

159 Before-Meatloaf; after Mindy the girl next door...


Posted by: pahound at July 17, 2026 05:24 PM (AjR4+)

160 Look at idiot Sid. Saying the quiet part out loud. What does he remind me of again...??? Oh yeah. Hitler. Don't want to be killed? Don't be a Jew. And Stalin. Don't want to be killed? Don't oppose me and prove it by giving up everything to the state. And Pol Pot. Don't want to be killed? Don't be educated or wear glasses. And Sid's leader, Mao. Don't want to be killed? Stop eating.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 05:19 PM (lCppi)
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Dunning-Kruger in action.

It would be a joke, it it weren't also at the same time dangerous because of how loony these people are and they think they make sense because they are putting words together in some order that kind of sounds like sane people would.

Progs are proto AI slop.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:25 PM (Fi81e)

161 Audie Murphy's book and screenplay are better than my book of the same name. Everyone knows that.

But I'll hold my work up against any twelve-toed Maine hermaphrodite's.

Posted by: Meat Loaf (2 Words, Motherfuckers) at July 17, 2026 05:25 PM (BI5O2)

162 Chef's Surprise: Ashley's MeatLoaf.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 17, 2026 05:25 PM (TezPK)

163 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley
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Just anywhere.

Posted by: India at July 17, 2026 05:25 PM (Fi81e)

164 OT:

Singer Randy VanWarmer...what kind of name is that?
Sounds like the name of a guy who goes around neighborhoods with signs on his car that say, "Free Candy, Puppies, and Wifi"...

And it was his GIVEN NAME AT BIRTH...
"Randall Edwin Van Warmer"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:25 PM (l3cgK)

165 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley

Poop at home, asshole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

I don't understand the question?
Posted by: India
......

Upstream bro. Always poop upstream. Unless you're doing laundry. Then maybe downstream.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (v0R5T)

166 Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 05:20 PM (Sy6m/)

I just saw some vids ( who knows if they are set ups ) called the Lamborghini pick up. I guy approaches a pretty girl at a table and compliments her looks and asks if she would go out with him. She immediately turns him down and he says okay and walks and gets in the 500k Lamborghini parked on the street . She sees this and decides he ain't so bad and gets up to start a conversation with him.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (/WQyy)

167 "But that right-winger was wearing a short skirt! Just begging for assasination!

Posted by: Average Atlantic Reader at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (sFNX2)

168 They are perfectly willing to kill babies. And, the elderly.

Why anybody in between would feel safe with this state of affairs is a question.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (i1NbZ)

169 154 But is she hot?!
Posted by: Moron who forgets rules
.......

Oh sure. Just a neck lift and some makeup, you're good to go.
Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:21 PM (v0R5T)

I had on "The Sarah Connor Chronicles".

Summer Glau. Damn, she was amazing. Hard to believe she didn't have a more amazing career.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (Sco7b)

170 Those pics -the difference between Shannon Doherty in her absolute prime and Rosie O'Donnell, today.

Posted by: LASue at July 17, 2026 05:27 PM (lCppi)

171 These horrifying images of alien races have cracked all of my reflecting mirrors.

Posted by: James Webb Space Telescope at July 17, 2026 05:27 PM (ZypAx)

172 I've never been to Maine. I want to go to Maine to see the landscapes, but my husband fears I will be arrested if I can't be controlled in public spaces with people vs trees. Ashley proves this.

There have been times in my life, and I am not proud of them, but sometimes I can't sit by certain people in cathedrals or at funerals. Because one eye lock with these people will undo my dignified and ladylike aura I try to project.

Then I am choke laughing and pretending to be weeping (I did this on my brother's shoulder at our aunt's funeral). This was because I asked who just yelled, "QUIET" in the somber space and shocked the entire crowd. It was the weirdest of our cousin's second husband who my mother thinks has a criminal record.My brother indicated him and I lost it.

I brought St. Giles Cathedral to a quiet halt once coughing like I had TB and looking for a cough drop in my purse, which I put behind our son on a pew right under the altar. My husband then asked if I was harfing into my purse and I lost my mind choke laughing and making noises that should not come from a lady.

I should be on drugs of some sort at times to subdue me or I bubble to the top and people stare.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 05:27 PM (hzuYO)

173 156 Signing an NDA must mean they're broke.
Posted by: beckster

I thought that was already public knowledge? I thought I had seen tons of reports about how they're out if money, people joking (speculating) that it had to do with shutting down USAID and more Fed oversight of groups like ActBlue, etc?
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 05:23 PM (5/BQI)

Act Blue is under investigation for knowingly bypassing Federal Campaign finance law... fraud... and international wire fraud.

IF during the investigation they have found evidence the DNC directly knew about it? maybe emails talking about lowering the safeguards against fraudulent contributions?

Yeah, could start a whole shitstorm.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 05:28 PM (mP0Kj)

174 Damn death cult is what it is.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:12 PM (E4rtv)
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It just gives them more in common with the Muzzies.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:28 PM (Fi81e)

175 Rest of the Rodriguez story, takes a heart of stone not to laugh.

From WPR
"Rodriguez said her manager had double-counted numerous donations, leaving her with hundreds of thousands of dollars less in the bank than she had expected.

Rodriguez also said it was her manager who made the decision to issue a July 7 press release promoting a $1 million TV ad buy despite her campaign’s hidden financial woes. Rodriguez told reporters Monday that she confronted her manager days later when she noticed the ads had not run.

Her campaign eventually announced another ad buy, this one much smaller. But she reported only $35,000 cash on hand to carry her through the closing days of the race — a miniscule sum for the closing days of a statewide primary for governor."

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:28 PM (E4rtv)

176 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley


recent indicators say the train to DC

Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:29 PM (8uzBS)

177 That picture of the tranny guy, I am certain that's what they have in their heads. I am actually this girl, if I take drugs and hack my dong off I'll be her!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2026 05:30 PM (UZCuZ)

178 It just gives them more in common with the Muzzies.
Posted by: Axeman
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Except leftists want to kill their fellow citizens, Muzzies want to kill all infidels or all heretics but not themselves.

Again, the self destructive behavior of Western leftists since WWI. Muzzies may be dense at times but they are smart enough to aim the guns at others, not their own society.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:30 PM (E4rtv)

179 163 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley
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Just anywhere.
Posted by: India at July 17, 2026 05:25 PM (Fi81e)

Hallways...

Posted by: EPA Employee at July 17, 2026 05:30 PM (mP0Kj)

180 Tubby troon

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 17, 2026 05:31 PM (Kt19C)

181 Progs are proto AI slop.
Posted by: Axeman
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Goes along with being badly programmed NPCs.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:31 PM (E4rtv)

182 But...but...public restrooms are so damn exciting!

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:23 PM (v0R5T)
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They're sexy!!

Imagine rape IN a public restroom!!

I know I have!

There are a number of places I imagined rape!

Posted by: E. Jean Carroll at July 17, 2026 05:31 PM (Fi81e)

183 165 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley

Poop at home, asshole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

I don't understand the question?
Posted by: India
......

Upstream bro. Always poop upstream. Unless you're doing laundry. Then maybe downstream.
Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (v0R5T)

********************
This is the intelligent knowledge I am here for when I should be doing something productive or normal.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 05:31 PM (hzuYO)

184 Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:28 PM (E4rtv)

She hire a Somali?

Posted by: EPA Employee at July 17, 2026 05:32 PM (mP0Kj)

185 Except leftists want to kill their fellow citizens, Muzzies want to kill all infidels or all heretics but not themselves.

Again, the self destructive behavior of Western leftists since WWI. Muzzies may be dense at times but they are smart enough to aim the guns at others, not their own society.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 05:30 PM (E4rtv)


Sunni vs Shiite says differently.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:32 PM (uhVAy)

186 Well I’ve never been to Maine
But I kind of like the music
Say the ladies are insane there
But they sure know how to use it
They don’t abuse it
Never gonna lose it
I can’t refuse it

Posted by: Three Daryl Night at July 17, 2026 05:32 PM (i1NbZ)

187 179 163 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley
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Just anywhere.
Posted by: India at July 17, 2026 05:25 PM (Fi81e)

Hallways...
Posted by: EPA Employee
=========
Here, There, and Everywhere

Posted by: The Beatles at July 17, 2026 05:32 PM (E4rtv)

188 Muzzles do like to kill each other also . Lots of examples. Just like Commies.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:32 PM (/WQyy)

189 177 That picture of the tranny guy, I am certain that's what they have in their heads. I am actually this girl, if I take drugs and hack my dong off I'll be her!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2026 05:30 PM (UZCuZ)

*whistles Q Lazzarus*

Posted by: Jaime Gumb at July 17, 2026 05:32 PM (gKWVE)

190 169 154 But is she hot?!
Posted by: Moron who forgets rules
.......

Oh sure. Just a neck lift and some makeup, you're good to go.
Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:21 PM (v0R5T)

I had on "The Sarah Connor Chronicles".

Summer Glau. Damn, she was amazing. Hard to believe she didn't have a more amazing career.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (Sco7b)

She's now 44...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:33 PM (l3cgK)

191 Sunni vs Shiite says differently.
Posted by: Oldcat
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I mentioned heretics including the Druze, etc. But leftists are perfectly happy with killing their own babies. That takes a level of death cult to the level of Molech.

Posted by: The Beatles at July 17, 2026 05:34 PM (E4rtv)

192 176 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley

recent indicators say the train to DC

Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 05:29 PM (8uzBS)

The Streets of San Francisco...
Yeah, not like the TV show at all...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:34 PM (l3cgK)

193
35 8 That tranny, wow
Posted by: Ventura Highway at July 17, 2026 04:49 PM (S+j2h)

We learned in another thread that he has actual delusions about having female internal organs, despite medical imaging showing otherwise. I'm no doctor, but that sounds like full-blown schizophrenia.
Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 04:56 PM

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If that guy actually has blood coming out of his butt, it might be cancer.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 17, 2026 05:35 PM (FaGPp)

194 Summer Glau hasn't really done much other than guest roles for over a decade.

Her last regular cast show was Sequestered, about a jury, from 2014.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1132359/

She is a cutie.
Summer just never got a big break on a hit show after the Terminator show.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:35 PM (6ydKt)

195 I brought St. Giles Cathedral to a quiet halt once coughing like I had TB and looking for a cough drop in my purse, which I put behind our son on a pew right under the altar. My husband then asked if I was harfing into my purse and I lost my mind choke laughing and making noises that should not come from a lady.

I should be on drugs of some sort at times to subdue me or I bubble to the top and people stare.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 05:27 PM (hzuYO)

I periodically get nagging coughs and I recommend Cinnamon hard candy instead of any cough drip. Worked for 35 years.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:35 PM (uhVAy)

196 She's now 44...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:33 PM (l3cgK)

A lot of my favorite teen actresses from my kids shows are getting older. Summer's still beautiful.

But again, Madonna is doing halftime at FIFA. LOL
President Trump HAD to be behind that.
That'll teach the world not to help out with Iran.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:36 PM (Sco7b)

197 Michael Douglas never had to hurdle poop running through the Streets of San Francisco.

I wonder if anybody who only knows that show from streaming or MP3s ever thinks that show is completely made up?

They need to bring that show back just to add that bit of reality.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (Fi81e)

198 Trump is live on TV now saying "We are a soccer country."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (Cqx++)

199 196 She's now 44...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:33 PM (l3cgK)

A lot of my favorite teen actresses from my kids shows are getting older. Summer's still beautiful.

But again, Madonna is doing halftime at FIFA. LOL
President Trump HAD to be behind that.
That'll teach the world not to help out with Iran.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:36 PM (Sco7b)

I don't want to know where she's shoving the vuvuzela...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (l3cgK)

200 She is a cutie.
Summer just never got a big break on a hit show after the Terminator show.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Firefly/Serenity was peak Summer.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (TezPK)

201 Cheryl Ladd is 75 years old.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (/WQyy)

202 If that guy actually has blood coming out of his butt, it might be cancer.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

or he was a virgin. Tee hee.

Posted by: Mayo Pete at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (v0R5T)

203 Michael Douglas never had to hurdle poop running through the Streets of San Francisco.

I wonder if anybody who only knows that show from streaming or MP3s ever thinks that show is completely made up?

They need to bring that show back just to add that bit of reality.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (Fi81e)

hell I watch Dirty Harry nostalgically for the positive view it gives of the city and its government.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (uhVAy)

204 198 Trump is live on TV now saying "We are a soccer country."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (Cqx++)

soccer or sucker? I mean, look at all the gays and dems and illegal aliens...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (l3cgK)

205 Well, since Trump endorsed her to run for the senate seat, I guess Darline is going to be senator for at least another 12 years.

Lindsey 2.0 here we come.
His senate staff will run everything the same, she'll just go along, I guess.

We'll see how she does in the campaign if she runs.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:39 PM (6ydKt)

206 202 If that guy actually has blood coming out of his butt, it might be cancer.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

or he was a virgin. Tee hee.

Posted by: Mayo Pete at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (v0R5T)

Doc said it was hemorrhoids...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:39 PM (l3cgK)

207 If that guy actually has blood coming out of his butt, it might be cancer.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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Or lupus.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:39 PM (Fi81e)

208 >>>But possibly Garrett.

Posted by: LASue

>I'm seeing this as an opportunity to make Garrett jealous. There's that certain twinkle in her eyes.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 05:40 PM (sYM3s)

209 She's now 44...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:33 PM (l3cgK)
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She's only 44?

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 05:40 PM (rj6Yv)

210 198 Trump is live on TV now saying "We are a soccer country."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (Cqx++)

soccer or sucker? I mean, look at all the gays and dems and illegal aliens...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (l3cgK)

Sticking it to the europeans again with the foosball or whatever they call it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:40 PM (uhVAy)

211 Madonna is doing halftime at FIFA.
......

Soccer has halftime shows? How bored can you get?

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 05:40 PM (v0R5T)

212 Ashley Webb also towers over the other candidates. "She" is the white version of the guy in Animal House who wantsta dance wit yo dates.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 05:40 PM (gKWVE)

213 210 198 Trump is live on TV now saying "We are a soccer country."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (Cqx++)

soccer or sucker? I mean, look at all the gays and dems and illegal aliens...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:38 PM (l3cgK)

Sticking it to the europeans again with the foosball or whatever they call it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 05:40 PM (uhVAy)

Oh Please! Put your Vuvuzela right up there!

Posted by: Don Lemon at July 17, 2026 05:41 PM (l3cgK)

214 I heard a couple of days ago that NOTwomen are saying they have a right to menstruate.

That probably would make sense to Sid or Paul.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:41 PM (Fi81e)

215 Whoopie Goldberg pie, on the other hand...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:15 PM (l3cgK)
__________________

Jim, we could have all done without that observation. I much rather be disgusted by ACE's weekly blood pressure rising sadistic offerings disguised as "This Week in Woke".

Both are disturbing, although your comment is bordering on psychological torture.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 05:41 PM (dIske)

216
Darlene? Miklos must be delighted.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 05:42 PM (flEsB)

217 139 Where can a man in a dress poop around here?
- Ashley
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 05:16 PM (n5tGW)

Lol.

The kennel (pet resort!) where I take my dogs on vacation has a review posted that says, "I would poop here again."

Always makes me chuckle.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 05:43 PM (bl07w)

218 I should be on drugs of some sort at times to subdue me or I bubble to the top and people stare.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 05:27 PM (hzuYO)

Oh, pshaw. The world needs more people who laugh, no matter the timing. Never stop being you!

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 17, 2026 05:43 PM (k9OZB)

219 So the Maine senate candidate who is “trans” is still a “P3”, a person possessing penis?
Has the dick fairy left a quarter under that person’s pillow?

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 17, 2026 05:43 PM (1FEc1)

220 If that guy actually has blood coming out of his butt, it might be cancer.

"ITS NOT A TOOMAH!!!"
--bleeding dude

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2026 05:43 PM (UZCuZ)

221 214 I heard a couple of days ago that NOTwomen are saying they have a right to menstruate.

That probably would make sense to Sid or Paul.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:41 PM (Fi81e)

And we thought black market blood would be to satisfy the vampires...

Oh the horror...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:43 PM (Sco7b)

222 216
Darlene? Miklos must be delighted.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 05:42 PM (flEsB)

It's a step up from Walmart and Waffle House, I guess.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 05:43 PM (bl07w)

223 I heard a couple of days ago that NOTwomen are saying they have a right to menstruate.
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That's right out of the scene in "Life of Brian" where Judith says that Stan/Loretta has the right to have babies.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 05:44 PM (amcLV)

224

That's Platner all shaved down with some rouge.

I happened across a trantifa on FB.

Someone should be watching this guy. He posted some weird shit on a community post, I looked at his public profile. Just demented.

There is a subculture of violent nutjobs propelled by the internet and stronger drugs than Charlie Manson had.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz PhD Esq at July 17, 2026 05:44 PM (et1vG)

225 Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 05:44 PM (amcLV)

Oh, hey, you are alive and well! How's the ticker?? all good, I trust?

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 05:45 PM (GD0B3)

226 That's right out of the scene in "Life of Brian" where Judith says that Stan/Loretta has the right to have babies.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 05:44 PM (amcLV)

Someone pointed out to me that toward the end of that bit, Eric Idle stopped talking because he was trying like hell not to laugh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 05:46 PM (0aYVJ)

227 English has some of the wildest rules.

Like "trans" before Atlantic and "mission" is pronounced TRANZ.

But before words like "man", "woman", "male" and "female" it's pronounced NOT.

And "cis" as the prefix to any word is always silent.

Crazy.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:46 PM (Fi81e)

228 Oh, hey, you are alive and well! How's the ticker?? all good, I trust?
Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 05:45 PM (GD0B3)
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Doing OK. They're fiddle-farting around with getting me a cardiology referral, which has me irked.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 05:46 PM (amcLV)

229 I was hoping for a new person/perspective in the senate but nope, we get blood relations and a mini-dynasty.

Maybe one of Lindsey's nieces can take the seat after her mother leaves so we can keep it going.

SC's own little three-peat, all female version of the Kennedys.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:47 PM (6ydKt)

230 23 I like how they refer to assassination attempts with the verb "resist".

That shines right through with convincing calm sanity and the moral upper hand.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (Fi81e)

----

They keep saying "resist" which is a defensive stance, but they have been on offense for at least a decade.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 05:47 PM (9CZQg)

231 the Maine senate candidate who is “trans” is still a “P3”, a person possessing penis?
Has the dick fairy left a quarter under that person’s pillow?
Posted by: Fenderbender at July 17, 2026 05:43 PM (1FEc

They never clarify or imply but my guess is that 99.9% of trannies who compete at high level women's sports are all still fully intact.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:48 PM (/WQyy)

232 Looking at recent photos of Summer Glau, she reminds me a lot of Sigourney Weaver.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2026 05:48 PM (5/BQI)

233 Doing OK. They're fiddle-farting around with getting me a cardiology referral, which has me irked.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 05:46 PM (amcLV)

I think it's standard procedure to send to a specialist.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 05:48 PM (GD0B3)

234 Leftists in the 1966: Give Peace a Chance... Woodstock, John Lennon, etc....

Leftists in 2026: Death to America, We love Chairman Mao, Communism is great, Free Shit for everybody on the earth, Rich must pay their fair share, Rich steal money from the poor (Elected Democrats (Omitted), AOC (A retarded Big Boobed Bartender) for POTUS.....

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 05:49 PM (xl8DV)

235 Mexico warns citizens that traveling to the U.S. may expose them to contaminated lettuce from Mexico

-
I guess they keep the clean stuff for themselves.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 05:49 PM (ndZc7)

236 They keep saying "resist" which is a defensive stance, but they have been on offense for at least a decade.

It is absolutely central to the leftist worldview that they are always the underdog, the rebel, the heroic rebellion against The Man

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2026 05:49 PM (UZCuZ)

237 Someone pointed out to me that toward the end of that bit, Eric Idle stopped talking because he was trying like hell not to laugh.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 05:46 PM (0aYVJ)
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During the "she's a witch" scene in "Holy Grail," he had to bite his agricultural tool to keep from cracking up.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 05:49 PM (amcLV)

238 Of course when Trump says "soccer" he's really talking about violence against women!

Posted by: Mind Reader at July 17, 2026 05:50 PM (Fi81e)

239 Offer to Canada:

We will trade you Maine for a Six Pack of Molson Golden....

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 05:50 PM (xl8DV)

240 They keep saying "resist" which is a defensive stance, but they have been on offense for at least a decade.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 05:47 PM (9CZQg)

You forgot that they unintentionally follow 1984 like an instruction manual . Everything is Newspeak .

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:50 PM (/WQyy)

241 There was a video awhile back where Summer Glau, Gina Torres, and Nathan Fillion were all talking about doing a new Firefly series. It might have been animated, or something, can't remember.

That'd be cool, but I haven't seen anything about it since.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:50 PM (6ydKt)

242 203 Michael Douglas never had to hurdle poop running through the Streets of San Francisco.

I wonder if anybody who only knows that show from streaming or MP3s ever thinks that show is completely made up?

They need to bring that show back just to add that bit of reality.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:37 PM (Fi81e)

hell I watch Dirty Harry nostalgically for the positive view it gives of the city and its government.


i watch rockford files and think about how different it would be if had a smartphone in his pocket

Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 05:51 PM (qdr3M)

243 Summer Glau. Damn, she was amazing. Hard to believe she didn't have a more amazing career.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:26 PM (Sco7b)

She's now 44...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 05:33 PM (l3cgK)

Great. Now I'm thinking of Firefly and how they barely got a season and a movie while woke dogsh*t written by r*tards gets renewed before the season is even viewed once.

Posted by: Nelly at July 17, 2026 05:51 PM (6+ehB)

244 235 Mexico warns citizens that traveling to the U.S. may expose them to contaminated lettuce from Mexico

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I guess they keep the clean stuff for themselves.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 05:49 PM (ndZc7)

Nah. Mexico shits on everything.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 05:51 PM (bl07w)

245 241 There was a video awhile back where Summer Glau, Gina Torres, and Nathan Fillion were all talking about doing a new Firefly series. It might have been animated, or something, can't remember.

That'd be cool, but I haven't seen anything about it since.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:50 PM (6ydKt)

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO KILL WASH!

That is all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (bl07w)

246 Here's a solid Mary Ann /Ginger scenario .

Farscape >>>Firefly

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (/WQyy)

247 227 English has some of the wildest rules.

Like "trans" before Atlantic and "mission" is pronounced TRANZ.

But before words like "man", "woman", "male" and "female" it's pronounced NOT.

And "cis" as the prefix to any word is always silent.

Crazy.


also, "transistor" is not the same as "trans sister".

Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (qdr3M)

248 We resist Nazis.

By walking up to somebody we don't know, calling them a "Nazi", and punching them ... if they're helpless enough.

Posted by: A Prog at July 17, 2026 05:53 PM (Fi81e)

249 If the guy in the next stall says his buhoe is bleeding and needs more TP do you:

1. hand him a few squares

2. ask him on a date

3. tell him to see a doctor about that shit

4. pretend you're deaf

Posted by: public restroom protocal at July 17, 2026 05:53 PM (UjdFS)

250 BraveAI sez:

Firefly is returning in two distinct formats: an animated television series and a new comic book series, both announced in 2026.

Animated Series Revival

An animated continuation of the cult classic is in advanced development, set to take place between the original 2002 TV run and the 2005 film Serenity.

Status: The series is in advanced development and is currently being pitched to networks or streamers, though no release date or platform has been confirmed.

New Comic Book Series

Separately, Dynamite Entertainment has launched a new Firefly comic series written by Mark Russell and illustrated by Lorenzo Re.

Release: The first issue, Firefly #1, was released in September 2026.

Plot: The story follows Captain Malcolm Reynolds struggling to keep the Serenity operational while Simon and Kaylee pose as a married couple for a heist. Promotional art suggests it may take place before the events of the Serenity film, as characters like Wash and Shepherd Book appear.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:53 PM (6ydKt)

251 I saw Trump's Speech from last night on Cable Channel "88" today !!!!!!

The 8th letter of the alphabet is H !!!!!!!!!

So, 88 means HH !!!!!!!!!!!

HH translate into Heil Hitler (Platner Not included)

So, Trump is a BAD NAZI compared to Platner who is a "MOSTLY PEACEFUL" Type of Nazi !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 05:54 PM (xl8DV)

252 THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO KILL WASH!

That is all.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (bl07w)

I saw that, and screamed WTF!!! I almost stopped the movie right there.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 05:54 PM (0aYVJ)

253 250 BraveAI sez:

Firefly is returning in two distinct formats: an animated television series and a new comic book series, both announced in 2026.

Animated Series Revival

An animated continuation of the cult classic is in advanced development, set to take place between the original 2002 TV run and the 2005 film Serenity.

Status: The series is in advanced development and is currently being pitched to networks or streamers, though no release date or platform has been confirmed.

New Comic Book Series

Separately, Dynamite Entertainment has launched a new Firefly comic series written by Mark Russell and illustrated by Lorenzo Re.

Release: The first issue, Firefly #1, was released in September 2026.

Plot: The story follows Captain Malcolm Reynolds struggling to keep the Serenity operational while Simon and Kaylee pose as a married couple for a heist. Promotional art suggests it may take place before the events of the Serenity film, as characters like Wash and Shepherd Book appear.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:53 PM (6ydKt)



I didn't know about the comic but I was quietly excited about the animated series. I hope somebody picks it up.

Posted by: Nelly at July 17, 2026 05:55 PM (6+ehB)

254 246 Here's a solid Mary Ann /Ginger scenario .

Farscape >>>Firefly

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (/WQyy)

I can watch Firefly in a week, so I'll go with that for that reason alone.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:55 PM (6ydKt)

255 When flying:
Alway put your shoes back on before using the lavatory.

Posted by: public restroom protocal at July 17, 2026 05:56 PM (UjdFS)

256 I didn't know about the comic but I was quietly excited about the animated series. I hope somebody picks it up.

Posted by: Nelly at July 17, 2026 05:55 PM (6+ehB)

It also says the entire original cast will do voices, but I didn't want to hit the character limit.

Somebody should pick it up.
It's got a built-in audience that will watch at least one season.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 05:57 PM (6ydKt)

257 I heard that the guy who played Simon Tam is gay.

So maybe he's the character that's got to be gay. Or maybe post-Wash, Zoe decides she likes trans-men.

Please don't let it be Mal who decided he likes dick.

But that would probably be Jayne because who does Adam Baldwin think he is?!! Having conservative politics!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 05:58 PM (Fi81e)

258 246 Here's a solid Mary Ann /Ginger scenario .

Farscape >>>Firefly

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (/WQyy)

I have Farscape on now in the background while I'm fighting with AIs.

Never seen it. I'll fully sit down and watch it some time. Very fun show.

I loved Ben and Claudia on Stargate-SG1.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 05:58 PM (Sco7b)

259 THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO KILL WASH!

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It was either that or turn him gay.

Posted by: Modern Writing at July 17, 2026 05:59 PM (Fi81e)

260
Dude looks like a lady is more Meatloaf than a lady.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (E4rtv)



Two google eyes stuck on Your Mom's Meatloaf would look more human and womanly attractive than that insane trans critter.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 17, 2026 05:59 PM (iJfKG)

261 254 246 Here's a solid Mary Ann /Ginger scenario .

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (/WQyy)

How long were they stranded on that island and Mary Ann and Ginger never got pregnant ????

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 06:00 PM (xl8DV)

262 When flying:
Alway put your shoes back on before using the lavatory.
Posted by: public restroom protocal at July 17, 2026 05:56 PM (UjdFS)

I never remove my shoes when flying. And I wear durable athletic shoes, in the event of a hard landing that requires a long walk back to the terminal. Open toed shoes when travelling is a terrible idea.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 06:00 PM (0aYVJ)

263 Taxpaying Angelenos write big checks every year. They dump billions into homelessness services –– and the tents, needles and suffering still turn neighborhoods into obstacle courses.

Then Mayor Karen Bass drops her latest pearl of wisdom: Homeless folks use meth “to stay awake for protection on the city’s dangerous streets.”

Bless her heart.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 06:00 PM (O7XEN)

264
Adam Baldwin is not of the Body.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:01 PM (Fi81e)

265 They keep saying "resist" which is a defensive stance, but they have been on offense for at least a decade.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 05:47 PM (9CZQg)

In 1939 the Germans started 'resisting' into Poland.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 06:01 PM (uhVAy)

266 Dude looks like a lady is more Meatloaf than a lady.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (E4rtv)
---
Lionel Ritchie would probably say he's 3 times a lady

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:02 PM (Fi81e)

267 How long were they stranded on that island and Mary Ann and Ginger never got pregnant ????

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 06:00 PM (xl8DV)

Could be that Mary Ann and Ginger were lesbians.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:02 PM (6ydKt)

268 In 1939 the Germans started 'resisting' into Poland.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 06:01 PM (uhVAy)
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LOL! Noice!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 06:03 PM (Fi81e)

269 Could be that Mary Ann and Ginger were lesbians.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:02 PM (6ydKt)
---
What's that got to do with anything?!

Posted by: Gilligan 10 Years On the Island at July 17, 2026 06:03 PM (Fi81e)

270 Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (qdr3M)

When in doubt, blame the Brits. When the printing press started it's run, the switch from Old English written and Simplified English spoken never met in the middle.

That's how we get stupid ass spellings like the silent "w" in the word "answer." And, in protest, I pronounce the damn "w" as it was in the Old English "andswaru".

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 06:03 PM (dIske)

271 And "cis" as the prefix to any word is always silent.

Crazy.

also, "transistor" is not the same as "trans sister".
Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2026 05:52 PM (qdr3M)

The Roman Provinces of " Alpine Gaul" and "NOTAlpine Gaul" are weeping.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 06:04 PM (uhVAy)

272 Could be that Mary Ann and Ginger were lesbians.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:02 PM (6ydKt)

I remember a meme where a guy says, now that I am older, Lovey Howell is a viable third option.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at July 17, 2026 06:05 PM (0aYVJ)

273 What's that got to do with anything?!

Posted by: Gilligan 10 Years On the Island at July 17, 2026 06:03 PM (Fi81e)

It's got everything to do with the start of a very nice fantasy for millions of men around the world.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:05 PM (6ydKt)

274 Lovey was 64 years old when Gilligan's Island premiered.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 06:07 PM (/WQyy)

275 Nood media Hillary

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 17, 2026 06:07 PM (6ydKt)

276 America's not buying it.

CNN Poll Shows 125% Of Americans Don’t Believe Trump’s Claim Of Election Fraud

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From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 06:09 PM (ndZc7)

277 223 I heard a couple of days ago that NOTwomen are saying they have a right to menstruate.
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That's right out of the scene in "Life of Brian" where Judith says that Stan/Loretta has the right to have babies.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 05:44 PM (amcLV)


Or the scene in "Death Becomes Her," where the person before Fat Goldie Hawn in the Nutjob Support Group is a big black guy talking about how sometimes, he gets the menstrual cramps real bad...

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 06:16 PM (Sy6m/)

278 235 Mexico warns citizens that traveling to the U.S. may expose them to contaminated lettuce from Mexico

-
I guess they keep the clean stuff for themselves.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 05:49 PM (ndZc7)

Oh, the irony, it burns!

Posted by: Don Lemon at July 17, 2026 07:05 PM (l3cgK)

279 Off nasty sock...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 07:07 PM (l3cgK)

280 Maine, you must have some powerful beer goggles to mate with Mainers.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at July 17, 2026 07:42 PM (DIS3S)

Trump: We Recovered Documents From the CIA About Their Scheme to Hide All Intelligence from Me That Could Help Me in My 2020 Re-Election Campaign

Overton
@overton_news

Catherine Herridge says a whistleblower was sounding the alarm about China's influence operations in the summer of 2020 -- but "suddenly it all was suppressed" instead of being elevated.

HERRIDGE: "So in the summer of 2020, as we're heading into the election, in the intelligence community, there were indicators of this Chinese influence operation."

"Influence operations means that you're trying to affect the outcome of how people vote or their sentiment about a presidential candidate."

"It's different than an interference operation, which is penetrating voting rolls and voter systems."

"And this whistleblower was raising the alarm about the influence operation and then suddenly it all was suppressed."

"My understanding is that some of their reports, there were in officials on hand writing that they wanted everything out could help President Trump in his re-election."

"So there clear evidence of political and personal bias, and intelligence is supposed to be neutral."

"So what we heard tonight from the president is an allegation that this intelligence was suppressed in order harm him. And now we're seeing documents already which back those claims."

More from Breitbart:

"Compounding the travesty, the second set of documents we are releasing reveals that members of the deep state ... in our intelligence agency worked to actively suppress and downplay information about the extent of China's sinister election meddling, covering it up from both the president and the American people like nobody thought was possible," he said.

He also said while outlining the second area of documents, "CIA reporting explicitly stated, and I quote: 'In mid 2018, the Chinese Communist Party's policy was to leverage all domestic and foreign elements that were opposed to the U.S. president in an effort to reduce the U.S. president's votes and make him resign or prevent his re-election.'"

Trump went on to add that "Raw intelligence obtained by the FBI in 2020, yet buried by rogue bureaucrats, stated that China's activities even included an attempt to manufacture illegal ballots for Joe Biden."

Trump added that the documents reveal that reports regarding "China's election targeting" were omitted from his daily presidential briefs during his first term.

"Documents show that during this period, dozens of significant CIA and NSA reports about China's election targeting were kept out of the presidential briefing. These were briefings I would get almost every day," he added.

"Everything was kept out that was of importance. One email among intelligence analysts admitted that they had quote: 'deliberately massaged the presidential daily briefing to withhold information regarding Chinese activities related to the election,'" Trump added.

More from Catherine Herridge:


Catherine Herridge
@C__Herridge


EXCLUSIVE: Whistleblower Alleges 2020 CCP Election Influence Ops Targeting Trump Were Suppressed

Multiple sources tell me that a credible whistleblower complaint was filed alleging the CIA, FBI and other IC agencies suppressed intelligence about China's influence operations during the 2020 election targeting President Trump and his campaign.

Based on my reporting, China's goal was to "impede" President Trump's re-election and "denigrate" him as a candidate. I understand the DNI is actively working to declassify the records.

According to these accounts, the CIA, then led by Director Gina Haspel, would not document the Chinese influence operations, in a formal way, out of concern that President Trump would use the intelligence to his advantage.

Based on the complaint, senior intelligence officials are accused of heavy-handed editing of the whistleblower's reports about China's sweeping influence operations during the 2020 election cycle.

In some instances, senior CIA officials are accused of taking "pen to paper" to strike sections because "the intelligence assessments would help Trump." I am told some track changes make "specific reference to domestic politics."

A senior intelligence official emphasized that in 2020 China was not held to the same standard as Russia and other adversaries, including North Korea, Iran and its proxy Hezbollah. The official said Chinese influence operations were consistently "downplayed," while Russia's activities were routinely "amplified."

The official added that the CIA was "driving political bias" in the intelligence assessments as well as the need to "massage" the President's Daily Brief. Known as the "PDB," it is a highly classified summary of intelligence and analysis on national security.

For calling out the apparent suppression of China intelligence targeting President Trump before the 2020 Presidential election, the whistleblower was allegedly retaliated against. The alleged retaliation included:

* Change in the whistleblower's job responsibilities

* Threats to destroy their reputation

* The "dissent" report that challenged the majority view about China's election activities was allegedly altered and the "confidence level" downgraded

Independent, publicly available cyber security reports appear to back up the whistleblower's allegations that intelligence was suppressed about China's activities in 2020.

In April 2020 a classified intelligence assessment found Beijing was ramping up activities in advance of the US election.

...

Based on my reporting, by May 2020, there was a general consensus among the intelligence agencies that China was planning a "potentially huge campaign" targeting the upcoming Presidential election.

The Chinese Community Party's (CCP) effort was considered to be much bigger than similar election campaigns launched by Russia because the CCP campaign would be executed across multiple domains.


As one government contact put it, "If the IC (intelligence community) was suppressing the China intelligence in 2020, what else was it suppressing?"

Read the whole thing.


DISCONNECTING THE DOTS: China's 'multi-domain' influence operation was suppressed by striking references to the 2020 election and "massaging" intelligence reports for the President.

Friday, November 20, 2020: "We have deliberately massaged our one pending PDB (President's Daily Brief) to avoid any direct links to the election."

- Strategic Intelligence Analyst, China & North Korea Strategic Assessments.



Dolly Dagger
@Cookie1inPA

2h

And we have a joint chief Milley declaring he would contact his Chinese counterpart if the President were to consider any move on China. Makes perfect sense in light of this..

Below: an "intelligence" employee complains about the China interference evidence being scrubbed from the record, with clear efforts to influence an election being called "issue" influence -- influencing only on particular issues -- even though in other cases they call this election interference and this so-called "issue interference" is conducted by the exact same unit and personnel who conduct election interference efforts.

whistlebloweremail.jpg

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:30 PM




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1 Unpossible!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (vDZgA)

2 "Who gives a shit about China hacking our elections when Putin hacked Michigan's voting machines in 2016 to give Trump the win!"
-50+% of Democrats, according to one poll

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (PIaQL)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (2YhKe)

4 People need to hang for this.

Posted by: Jmel at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (3TlS+)

5 Shadow Government!

DeepState is real, who runs it? Globalists? China? Or is it a Hydra of our enemies?

Posted by: illiniwek at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (vbXSk)

6 4 Spoiler: people won't get hangnails over this.

Posted by: Bete at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (LX4y3)

7 Disband the CIA and the FBI.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (4NO2D)

8 It's not paranoia when they are really out to get you.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (/WQyy)

9 5 Yes

Posted by: Bete at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (LX4y3)

10 What if all of the Democrat popularity since 2008 has been manufactured and fake?

Ballot drops getting Obama re-elected in 2012.

The 2018 midterms being a dress rehearsal for 2020.

2020 being 2020

2022 being 2020 but even worse because who gives a shit about midterms and Biden's DOJ probably helped.

What happens if you knock out a couple of pillars that propped up the Democrat party for the last 14 years?

Well, you get the Maine Senate Democrat debate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (PIaQL)

11 >>> 5 Shadow Government!

DeepState is real, who runs it? Globalists? China? Or is it a Hydra of our enemies?
Posted by: illiniwek at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (vbXSk)

Yes.

The "intelligence" industrial complex is a problem.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (vDZgA)

12 We know intelligence was withheld from Trump in many cases. The military also admitted(bragged) about withholding information from him ie Chinese surveillance baloons.

Posted by: steevy at July 17, 2026 03:33 PM (YwEeS)

13
So, what?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 17, 2026 03:33 PM (2Ez/1)

14 Why didn't China cheat for MEEEEEEEE!!!!??????

Posted by: Hillary Cunton at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (2YhKe)

15 12 We know intelligence was withheld from Trump in many cases. The military also admitted(bragged) about withholding information from him ie Chinese surveillance baloons.

Posted by: steevy at July 17, 2026 03:33 PM (YwEeS)

======

Scarf lady bragged about it in her own book.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (PIaQL)

16 13 well... um... something

Posted by: Bete at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (LX4y3)

17 I want a hamburger!

Posted by: Ashley Webb at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (wOO3z)

18 I'm sure someone somewhere justified leaving out the details in the PDB as "irrelevant."

In other words, the PDB is only the distilled essence of information that others have deemed worthy of the President's time/attention.

So it's a relatively simple matter to classify something as "irrelevant" or "low priority" so that the President never sees it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (FZ29D)

19 "If the IC (intelligence community) was suppressing the China intelligence in 2020, what else was it suppressing?"


Give me a concrete floor, a ballpeen hammer, and these administrators feet and I will get you answers lickety-split.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (4NO2D)

20 "But Trump is committing war crimes!!!" -- leftists who think they are just like the guys who ran up the beaches on D-Day, but object to bombing bridges because that never happened in World War Eleven

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (vDZgA)

21 Catherine Herridge says a whistleblower was sounding the alarm about China's influence operations in the summer of 2020 -- but "suddenly it all was suppressed" instead of being elevated.

That's because if you scratch a dem/socialist, there's a commie underneath...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (l3cgK)

22 People should hang for this; alas,
We are no longer that country.

Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (wvc0i)

23 Is there someone at the head of this shadow government? 1 person in a volcano lair who gives the direction out to the minions?

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (hftzA)

24 Still waiting for all those honest, red blooded, ham n egger, flag waving, patriotic FBI and CIA agents to resign in protest of all this Deep State democrat skullduggery.

Posted by: Gentleman, My Pension! at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (45BvE)

25
Scarf lady bragged about it in her own book.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (PIaQL)/i]


That bitch should be hanged with those scarfs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:36 PM (2YhKe)

26 20 Can't even get the Republican party to pass anything that will give lip service to making changes in the future.

Posted by: Bete at July 17, 2026 03:36 PM (LX4y3)

27 We've got our pensions to think about.

Posted by: those honest, red blooded, ham n egger, flag waving, patriotic FBI and CIA agents at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (2Ez/1)

28 Executed bodies would shut up "Nothing will happen" guy.

It'd help my mood too.

Have President Trump pull the switch live on tv.
Just for laughs.
And liberal anger and tears.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (Sco7b)

29 A conservative says anything about the 2020 election and it's an attack on democracy.

Leftists still claim the 2000, 2004, 2016, and 2024 elections as "stolen elections".

If Trump was a "Putin Puppet", why didn't Putin invade Ukraine between January 2017 and January 2021? Why did he wait until Cottonhead Joe was POTUS?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (k1E2D)

30 The most serious whistle-blowers write up an essay coordinating what they saw on TV!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (Fi81e)

31 Why do you think the networks refused to air the speech and had already pre-written statements..... Some of them are also connected to this...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (bBCpC)

32 Sharyl Attkisson was on the receiving end of deep state intimidation starting around 2012.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (afJtY)

33 >People should hang for this; alas,
We are no longer that country.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (wvc0i)


We haven't been for several decades. Jane Fonda should have been hanged the moment she came back from North Vietnam.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 17, 2026 03:38 PM (rJ48h)

34 Planter said he would enjoy letting his extra manly slaveboy penetrate him repeatedly and was looking forward to biting the pillow in such a masculine way that the feathers would fly everywhere in an aggressive macho flurry of Y chromosomes.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:38 PM (/bHKT)

35 Connections between the CCP and The Clinton Crime Organization... iirc, The first mention of, "Russia!" was when Hillary said Russia hacked her e-mails.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (Q+gd/)

36
*blah blah blah*

McCarthyism

*blah blah blah*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (flEsB)

37 A conservative says anything about the 2020 election and it's an attack on democracy.

Leftists still claim the 2000, 2004, 2016, and 2024 elections as "stolen elections".

If Trump was a "Putin Puppet", why didn't Putin invade Ukraine between January 2017 and January 2021? Why did he wait until Cottonhead Joe was POTUS?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (k1E2D)
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It's absurd, I know. But take a look at the demographic it seems to work for.

And then compare that with their voting base.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (Fi81e)

38 terlit hobo sighting (penguinz0)
youtu.be/2HQ1XWXPuCw

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (gKWVE)

39 A telling moment in President Trump's speech last night: He named Barack Obama as a participant in these schemes.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (eGzf1)

40 Community party?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (Cqx++)

41 Sharyl Attkisson was on the receiving end of deep state intimidation starting around 2012.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (afJtY)




Never FOOL with Barack Owebama......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (2YhKe)

42 39 It's absurd, I know. But take a look at the demographic it seems to work for.

And then compare that with their voting base.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (Fi81e)

========

There are probably somewhere between 1.4 million and 6.7 million illegal aliens on our voter rolls and actively voting.

Not just on the voter rolls, but actively voting.

What if we imported 7 million people who hate this country and asked them to vote in every presidential election?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (PIaQL)

43
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:30 PM

1 Unpossible!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (vDZgA)

hmm

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (6wpGE)

44 Never served in the military because of horrible eyesight, but when Milley said he would contact the Chinese if Trump orders an attack I wanted him court martialed then and there. He didn't even consider that telling the Chinese could get hundreds, maybe thousands of US troops killed

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:41 PM (OXYE0)

45 What ever happened to Sheryl?

Posted by: Ashley Webb at July 17, 2026 03:41 PM (wOO3z)

46 So China was trying to "influence" the election... That's not the same as actually manufacturing "votes" . I wonder if they have anything to show that happened ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (bBCpC)

47 How would Chinese influence, as has been supposedly revealed in the declassified documents (and why were they classified in the first place) alter election results?

I can understand cyber warfare against the voting machines and counting, I can understand directly manipulating election officials to mishandle and erroneously count ballots.

But what I'm seeing is that they just collected a bunch of information on voters. Did they use this information to direct targeted vote harvesting action?

What exactly is so horrible? I mean domestic enemies such as Google and Facebook had far more influence in terms of news manipulation and managing narratives.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (NzX/y)

48 The Third Circus just struck down New Jersey's ban on AR-15s and 30 round magazines.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (IG3/x)

49 32 Why do you think the networks refused to air the speech and had already pre-written statements..... Some of them are also connected to this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (bBCpC)

Connected? More like paid. Follow the money.

Some of the "journalists" are true believers, but I think the coordination indicates a payoff scheme.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (bl07w)

50 Is it a committee? Seriously, how did this happen - was it Hillary who stamped horrible terrible scary man for reasons we cannot articulate on Trump and then stupid people like Milley grabbed that ball and ran? And the rest of the dems in the government labyrinth started doing the same thing To SaVe DeMoCrAcY?

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (hftzA)

51 Things are getting spicy!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (hzuYO)

52 Connections between the CCP and The Clinton Crime Organization... iirc, The first mention of, "Russia!" was when Hillary said Russia hacked her e-mails.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (Q+gd/)
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Norm's joke on SNL news has Clinton saying "And, of course, you understand, I have to look out for AmericaChina".

Norm did all kinds of jokes that your typical SNL-ers never would have because they weren't soft touches, like when Phil Hartman did that hilarious sketch about Bill Clinton eating people's food at McDonalds. It was a great sketch, but it was still on the soft touch side.

No, Norm's jokes were about Clinton being in China's pocket.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:43 PM (Fi81e)

53 So China was trying to "influence" the election... That's not the same as actually manufacturing "votes" . I wonder if they have anything to show that happened ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (bBCpC)
--------------------

It costs money to commit fraud on the scale it was committed in 2020. Makes any bets where the money came from?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 03:43 PM (eGzf1)

54 I'm watching "Nicky, Ricky, Dicky and Dawn" in the background. A cute kids show from 10 years back.

Mae: "A real reporter? So a real reporter dresses up her brother in a pig costume and makes up a bunch of lies?"

.................

Pretty much....

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 03:43 PM (Sco7b)

55 Again with the Boomer bs, Scogg?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 03:43 PM (Bw1/o)

56 10 What if all of the Democrat popularity since 2008 has been manufactured and fake?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (PIaQL)

IF? No sane person could ever believe democrats have that kind of power because rational people voted them into office.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 03:44 PM (bl07w)

57 56 IF? No sane person could ever believe democrats have that kind of power because rational people voted them into office.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 03:44 PM (bl07w)

======

50% of people in America are below median intelligence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:45 PM (PIaQL)

58 I miss Russian Collusion.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 03:45 PM (UjdFS)

59 It costs money to commit fraud on the scale it was committed in 2020. Makes any bets where the money came from?
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 03:43 PM (eGzf1)

Well, in WI it was Zuckerberg.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 03:45 PM (bl07w)

60 > 39 A telling moment in President Trump's speech last night: He named Barack Obama as a participant in these schemes.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (eGzf1)

I guess I sorta disagree? I don't think Barky is actually smart enough to run an op like this, or even participate in any meaningful way.

He's basically a sock puppet who parrots whichever communist has his hand up his ass at any particular moment. And he does like having hands up his ass...

See also: AOC.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2026 03:45 PM (IG3/x)

61 The Third Circus just struck down New Jersey's ban on AR-15s and 30 round magazines.

Can't wait to bring back all the magazines and guns I got rid of because I'm a stern patriot from NJ. Who just can't stand to move to somewhere with less dining options.

Posted by: Not A Mod - but a Stern Patriot at July 17, 2026 03:46 PM (mn6AA)

62 Meh. Old news. Unless they're going to come up with ways to audit this level of fraud and corruption, I can't get my dander up. It's standard procedure. Do something about it.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 03:46 PM (sYM3s)

63 If Elon hadn't bought X Trump would not have been elected in 24'... I firmly believe that

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:46 PM (bBCpC)

64 General Tso, when the walls fell.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 17, 2026 03:46 PM (nDXEV)

65 We haven't been for several decades. Jane Fonda should have been hanged the moment she came back from North Vietnam.
Posted by: mr tmz at July 17, 2026 03:38 PM (rJ48h)

She has at least suffered from being Jane Fonda for decades. Can you imagine?

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 03:47 PM (bl07w)

66 61 But a shame about all the items lost when the boat tipped over

Posted by: Bete at July 17, 2026 03:47 PM (LX4y3)

67 Jane Fonda should have been hanged the moment she came back from North Vietnam.
——

Now you know one reason why Congress hasn’t declared war in over 80 years.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 03:47 PM (i1NbZ)

68 >>So China was trying to "influence" the election... That's not the same as actually manufacturing "votes" . I wonder if they have anything to show that happened ?

One of the core arguments of the Russia collusion BS was that Putin sent a swarm of bots to various social media sites to influence the election. No votes manufactured, just bots. And that was enough for the left to claim the election was stolen by Trump working with Russia and get a special prosecutor.

Besides, it's day 2. Let's see what else comes out in time.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 03:47 PM (viF8m)

69 I'm starting to think that the reason networks did not want to carry the speech is that they are hoping they can provide some sort of screen against Trump revealing that reporters were on the grift with China.

Heck, it's almost certain that the "War Games" where Toobin' was beating it at half-time, was about the press and DC collaborating on how to "Stop Trump's re-election".

That may have been only domestic money, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if they were using Chinese money as well.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:47 PM (Fi81e)

70
China spying and trying to change the outcome of the US pres election is expected and normal.

The IC trying to hide it from Trump is another matter. The object, I take it, was to let it just happen without Trump ordering a counter-effort?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 03:48 PM (mmrXZ)

71 I guess I sorta disagree? I don't think Barky is actually smart enough to run an op like this, or even participate in any meaningful way.

He's basically a sock puppet who parrots whichever communist has his hand up his ass at any particular moment. And he does like having hands up his ass...

See also: AOC.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17

But Hillary is - and Obama thinks he is.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:48 PM (hftzA)

72 50% of people in America are below median intelligence.

Slick ... to understand America is to understand the mentality that WW II made us rich.

Posted by: Not A Mod - but a Stern Patriot at July 17, 2026 03:48 PM (mn6AA)

73 TJM, look no further than the state of the DNC's finances. A report the other day said chairman Martin required an NDA before briefing the party officials about the state of finances. Killing USAID was a gut punch to the Dems

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:48 PM (OXYE0)

74 I don't think Barky is actually smart enough to run an op like this, or even participate in any meaningful way.

You will still get prosecuted for armed robbery if you use a plastic toy gun and the victim believes its real.

Same idea.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 03:49 PM (PVBkQ)

75 I guess I sorta disagree? I don't think Barky is actually smart enough to run an op like this, or even participate in any meaningful way.

He's basically a sock puppet who parrots whichever communist has his hand up his ass at any particular moment. And he does like having hands up his ass...

See also: AOC.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2026 03:45 PM (IG3/x)
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It's why I described Obama as a "participant." We know he's not smart enough to run something like that but he's certainly willing to sign off.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 03:49 PM (eGzf1)

76 All I know is that in 2020 Biden did not get 81 million votes....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:49 PM (bBCpC)

77 > Who just can't stand to move to somewhere with less dining options.

I see your point, but you have to consider that sometimes non-communists need to change planes in New Jersey, or drive through on the way to from somewhere else sane to somewhere else sane.

I believe non-residents have been charged under this law, even if they were just passing through.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2026 03:49 PM (IG3/x)

78 One of the core arguments of the Russia collusion BS was that Putin sent a swarm of bots to various social media sites to influence the election. No votes manufactured, just bots. And that was enough for the left to claim the election was stolen by Trump working with Russia and get a special prosecutor.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 03:47 PM (viF8m)
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Fuck that. That was enough for these words: "Russia ATTACKED us!!" or "America WAS ATTACKED!!"

The yapping heads didn't care how big a distortion this was about Facebook ads. They don't measure the Democrat distance to Truth the way they do Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:50 PM (Fi81e)

79 63 If Elon hadn't bought X Trump would not have been elected in 24'... I firmly believe that
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:46 PM (bBCpC)

Bouncing around like I do. It's insane how leftists are given a completely different set of 'reality.' They get a constant diet of the evils of Trump, his revenge on his enemies, etc.

We see their side because we can't avoid it. But I don't think they EVER find out our side.

They're left blindsided wondering how President Trump won in 2016.

Or how was Biden suddenly so brain dead.

Most have no idea of ANY of this....
Sad.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 03:51 PM (Sco7b)

80 Today is the day news about Fulton County, GA is supposed to break, isn't it?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2026 03:51 PM (N39Ws)

81 I expect the counter-attack to be, "Trump is blaming China for Putin!"

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2026 03:51 PM (Q+gd/)

82 "Who gives a shit about China hacking our elections when Putin hacked Michigan's voting machines in 2016 to give Trump the win!"
-50+% of Democrats, according to one poll


It is amazing to watch a Democrat say Russia hacked the 2016 elections and changed vote total to Trump, 5m later that it is impossible to hack elections so obviously the 2020 election had not even a hint of fraud and then to close with noting Trump stole the 2024 election.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 03:51 PM (sKqQm)

83 It's absurd, I know. But take a look at the demographic it seems to work for.

And then compare that with their voting base.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (Fi81e)

Oh, I know. In 2016 I had childhood friends on Zucker's site talking about how we needed to come together after the election and all that bullshit. That was on Monday night when the NYT had Hillary! at 85% chance of winning. Wednesday morning? Those same people were "fuck you assholes who elected him!!!!!". I even asked them what changed, they wouldn't answer that just that Trump was a meany.

I was a Democrat about 35 years ago, and actually worked for some Democrat office holders, so I know exactly what they believe and what they are like behind closed doors. That's one of the many reasons why I left 35 years ago.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 03:51 PM (k1E2D)

84 > She has at least suffered from being Jane Fonda for decades. Can you imagine?
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 03:47 PM (bl07w)

At one time she was an outstanding example of the "hot/crazy matrix" model.

Not for a long time, though.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (IG3/x)

85 If Elon hadn't bought X Trump would not have been elected in 24'... I firmly believe that

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:46 PM (bBCpC)

I think it helped overall but nah, Trump destroyed the bitch. Twitter probably isn't enough of an influence either way, it's good for morale and general information and Elon's support was in the mi like RFK but it wasn't the election. He won in 2020 without Twitter during a pandemic that was blamed on him.

Honestly his bloody Fight Fight Fight sealed the deal. The thing that was intended to destroy him is what raised him up.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (/bHKT)

86 Barky is an empty suit. A composite “president”.

The president is far too important to be left to the voters, they have made that very clear for a long time now.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (i1NbZ)

87 >>I guess I sorta disagree? I don't think Barky is actually smart enough to run an op like this, or even participate in any meaningful way.

I don't think Trump dropped Obama's name as a throwaway line. We already know Obama was running the Russia hoax even if he didn't pull every lever.

Obama is a creation of the deep state. He might not be the ultimate mastermind but he's up to his skinny ass in all of this shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (viF8m)

88
A telling moment in President Trump's speech last night: He named Barack Obama as a participant in these schemes.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (eGzf1)

I guess I sorta disagree?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

=================

Barack apparently ordered the destruction of evidence:

Other officials who witnessed such efforts perceived the motivations to be blatantly political. Recently, we found significant numbers of burn bags information, and this is a group of bags that were used to destroy information, given by President Barack Hussein Obama to be burned, it was supposed to be burned.

These bags were supposed to be at a different level by different people, incinerated and checked, but it never happened. Maybe we got lucky. We believe this was not done on purpose, but rather through gross incompetence of the people that were supposed to burn the bags. But the findings are stunning.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 03:53 PM (mmrXZ)

89
Things are getting spicy!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat


Explosive!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 03:53 PM (Cqx++)

90 @79 Stateless, correct and it's worse than that. Try to tell Dems that Trump might drive them crazy but the DSA will get them killed drives them nuts.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:53 PM (OXYE0)

91 We see their side because we can't avoid it. But I don't think they EVER find out our side.

I remember talking with a smart lefty guy I knew.

Slick Willy came up and I made a crack about him forcing himself on women and this guy who theoretically keeps up with politics said he was aware Clinton had an affair but he had never heard that Clinton did anything non-consensual. And I could see in his face he wasn't lying. He had no idea about Paula Jones let alone Juanita Broaddrick

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (sKqQm)

92 I been up, I been down, take my word, my way around
I ain't asking for much
I said, Lord, take me downtown Bangkok
I'm just looking for some Wang, Bang Sweet Poon Tang, Tush and Filiopino Billy-Boy Cock..

I been bad, I been good, Hanoi, Tehran, Bollywood
I ain't asking for much I said, Lord,
Take me downtown Olongapo for $10 GI good time
I'm just looking for some Filipino LBFM tush

Take me back, way back home to my Delaware home
Not by myself, not alone, but not with Jill
I ain't asking for much, I said, Lord, take me, Graham and Hunter downtown Olongapo

I'm just looking for some LBFM tush.....

Posted by: Joe "Moose Cock" Biden and Billy Boy Platner at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (38587)

93 I guess I sorta disagree? I don't think Barky is actually smart enough to run an op like this, or even participate in any meaningful way.
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People are always forgetting who they could have had in their corner, I think.

I think Obama is intelligent. But I also don't think it takes a seance or sacrifice or any kind of alternative faith to accept that the genius of Satan (or one of his minions) could have orchestrated DC's efforts to defraud the people they are supposed to be working for.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (Fi81e)

94 The best take on Nolan's Odyssey I've seen: https://tinyurl.com/mru2ezrz

Link goes to a facebook reel.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (sKqQm)

95 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2026 03:51 PM (N39Ws)


In response to a convo we started the other day.......

Glad to hear you're doing well. First Lady just had her 2 year checkup after original diagnosis and everything looked GREAT. She's very happy. Red cell count is still low, but improving with each test. She's graduated to the 6 month checkup instead of every 3 months, so another bonus.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (2YhKe)

96 Posted without any sense of irony:

Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.

2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (hftzA)

97 terlit hobo sighting (penguinz0)
youtu.be/2HQ1XWXPuCw
Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 03:39 PM (gKWVE)

Was he wearing a mask? Unclean! Unclean! Run away!

Posted by: Why Won't You Wear The Ribbon? at July 17, 2026 03:55 PM (45BvE)

98 >>"As one government contact put it, "If the IC (intelligence community) was suppressing the China intelligence in 2020, what else was it suppressing?""

Is anyone asking the logical follow-up: what is the IC suppressing NOW?

The whole concept of "Trump's IC", or "Trump's CIA" is naive and laughable, even with the firings and replacements, I believe. They're never not an adversarial parallel government.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2026 03:55 PM (IhL8c)

99 I see your point, but you have to consider that sometimes non-communists need to change planes in New Jersey, or drive through on the way to from somewhere else sane to somewhere else sane.

Nope. Back in the day, "Watch a Man Golf" was a bullshit way of judging character. Stupid at the time. The kind of mentality that really did require someone trying to ascend go to the club and play a "road game". Total bullshit.

Want to know somebody ? Look where they live. And watch them drive. Not all to know about them. But all you need.

End of story, really.

Posted by: Not A Mod - but a Stern Patriot at July 17, 2026 03:55 PM (mn6AA)

100 Trump communicates in Big Ideas, much like the Left. He uses loaded things that mean things to people. Unlike the Left he has truth on his side. Obama is a way to "personalize" the treachery. Simplifies how people think about these things and makes them mean more.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:56 PM (/bHKT)

101 The deep state used Barky's God like popularity to do what they did. Barky is a lazy arrogant halfwit who was built up by bullshit and believed by sheep

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:56 PM (OXYE0)

102 Obama is a creation of the deep state. He might not be the ultimate mastermind but he's up to his skinny ass in all of this shit.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (viF8m)

He'd be a great guy to put to the screws and find out what bigger fish he flips on.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 17, 2026 03:56 PM (vSvIl)

103 "As one government contact put it, "If the IC (intelligence community) was suppressing the China intelligence in 2020, what else was it suppressing?""

I remember when the DoD was hacked in 2021 and it revealed the DoD:

1) Knew COVID came from the Wuhan lab
2) Knew the clot shots did nothing positive
3) Knew COVID wasn't dangerous to young/in shape people

This is while they were mandating the clot shot of course.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 03:56 PM (sKqQm)

104 88
A telling moment in President Trump's speech last night: He named Barack Hussien Obama as a participant in these schemes.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (eGzf1)


THIS PROVE$S TRUMP IS A RACIST AND IS PRTEJUDICE AGAINST OUR 50% BLACK PRESIDENT !!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 03:57 PM (rWPJ3)

105 No wonder ABC, NBC, and CNN didn't carry Trump's address.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 17, 2026 03:58 PM (xvV+O)

106
Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.

2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (hftzA

Ca. Gov greaseball was worse... He said Trump ranted like a mad King and needed to get the 25th Amendment

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:58 PM (bBCpC)

107 Basically Trump uses visual imagery.

The "Obama burn bags" are imagery and they are plausible imagery that is hard for the Left to shake off because they know the public knows that Obama "hates" Trump.

Plus burning gives bad juju vibes. Imagery like covering things up, Hell, etc.

People feel these things before intellectualizing them.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:58 PM (/bHKT)

108 Do you know what happened after January 6th, 2021? Everyone stopped talking about a rigged election.

That was very handy for the election riggers.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (viF8m)

109 Nobody has time to keep up with everything, they have armies of “policy analists” to get shit done under Presidential authority, I expect.

Biden of course, made that abundantly obvious. He didn’t even know what planet he was on at times, but the machine rolls on unabated. I sort of question whether he even wanted to run.

They just need somebody. Some body.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (i1NbZ)

110 THIS PROVE$S TRUMP IS A RACIST AND IS PRTEJUDICE AGAINST OUR 50% BLACK PRESIDENT !!!

This thing amazes me, BTW...

If you are genetically 50% black Africa and 50% north European like Obama you are...black.

If you are 50% Indian, 25% black African, and 25% north European like Kamala you are either Indian or Black whichever is more useful at the moment.

Or to take an AoS favorite...Sparkle Farkle. When I first saw her I assumed southern Italian...until she demanded everyone recognize she was being discriminated against because she was black.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (sKqQm)

111 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.

2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (hftzA

Ca. Gov greaseball was worse... He said Trump ranted like a mad King and needed to get the 25th Amendment
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:58 PM (bBCpC)
______

That only means that Trump hit the bullseye and they are very worried

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

112 Fortifying!

Posted by: Newsweek at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (Jzq+E)

113 Waves from the back row.

Posted by: Nothing Will Happen Guy at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (gSIIK)

114 One of Trump's fake accusers in 2016 said he got her on an airplane (it was a lie) and "he was like an octopus".

It was scripted imagery intended to creep out and turn off women.

That's how the Left communicates because it works. Trump is the same.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (/bHKT)

115 102 Obama is a creation of the deep state. He might not be the ultimate mastermind but he's up to his skinny ass in all of this shit.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (viF8m)

Obama was the MAX HEADROOM of Politics..........

PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPoetry to Democrat Sheeple population !!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (rWPJ3)

116 Ca. Gov greaseball was worse... He said Trump ranted like a mad King and needed to get the 25th Amendment
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:58 PM (bBCpC)



Of course he did.

It's just so rich they're complaining about Trump's mental capacity and the 25th Amendment all while they had NO CLUE Joe Biden was firing on every 4th synapse.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (2YhKe)

117 Things are getting spicy!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

Explosive!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 03:53 PM (Cqx++)
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*slantendicular look at the line for the restroom*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (amcLV)

118 Hillary should shut her piehole. She got 4 brave people killed in Benghazi.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (eGzf1)

119 I liked when Trump said "Barack HUSSEIN Obama". He was definitely saying something

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (OXYE0)

120 This is all just a distraction from the Epstein files.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (82ELq)

121 45 What ever happened to Sheryl?
Posted by: Ashley Webb at July 17, 2026 03:41 PM (wOO3z)

She has a show called "Full Measure" that airs on Sinclair Television stations. It's like 60 minutes but she goes after government corruption instead of cozying up to politicians.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (k1E2D)

122 We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.

The left: Any claims about election theft at obviously lies from a bitter loser

Also the left: Trump stole the 2016 election

Bonus the left: And the 2024 election

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (sKqQm)

123 Oh, I know. In 2016 I had childhood friends on Zucker's site talking about how we needed to come together after the election and all that bullshit. That was on Monday night when the NYT had Hillary! at 85% chance of winning. Wednesday morning? Those same people were "fuck you assholes who elected him!!!!!". I even asked them what changed, they wouldn't answer that just that Trump was a meany.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 03:51 PM (k1E2D)
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They don't really have a mentality to mean anything they say. They have emotions.

They don't conceive anything (but schemes) carefully, so when they later have to directly flout what they recently said, they just do it. The past does not matter.

The "Let's all ..." was to control what YOU would do. It's not like they ever intended to void it, they just didn't think it through enough when they said it.

They just want YOU to move. They wanted to prime the pump with your acceptance of a loss. Their overture only existed in the context of their winning.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (Fi81e)

124 Biden of course, made that abundantly obvious. He didn’t even know what planet he was on at times, but the machine rolls on unabated. I sort of question whether he even wanted to run.

He declined to run in 2016. Go back and look at the articles. The DNC, the media, knew that Hillary was a bad horse.

There was an entire summer where the narrative was "Draft Joe".

Posted by: Not A Mod - but a Stern Patriot at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (mn6AA)

125 Ca. Gov greaseball was worse... He said Trump ranted like a mad King and needed to get the 25th Amendment
Posted by: It's me donna

*shoulder shimmy*
*milking a cow hand motions*

Posted by: Nav Gewsom at July 17, 2026 04:01 PM (UjdFS)

126 I can't believe there's not an AI Max Headroom out there you can use......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 04:01 PM (2YhKe)

127 95
In response to a convo we started the other day.......

Glad to hear you're doing well. First Lady just had her 2 year checkup after original diagnosis and everything looked GREAT. She's very happy. Red cell count is still low, but improving with each test. She's graduated to the 6 month checkup instead of every 3 months, so another bonus.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (2YhKe)

That's great news! I just got back from my Onco appt. Pretty much the same as the First Lady. Red cell and white cell counts are a little low, but ok. Still on a 3 month checkup schedule which is fine. But scans and bloodwork all clean. So happy for you guys, and as glad that I'm cancer free so far too.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2026 04:01 PM (N39Ws)

128 The left: Any claims about election theft at obviously lies from a bitter loser

Also the left: Trump stole the 2016 election

Bonus the left: And the 2024 election
Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (sKqQm)

Ahem.

Posted by: 2000 Election at July 17, 2026 04:01 PM (gSIIK)

129 This is all just a distraction from the Epstein files.

I did enjoy the people ranting about "The Epstein Class" taking a day or two to tell us someone that rapes a 10 year old doesn't deserve to be deported because you can't judge someone based on their worst day

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:01 PM (sKqQm)

130 She has a show called "Full Measure" that airs on Sinclair Television stations. It's like 60 minutes but she goes after government corruption instead of cozying up to politicians.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (k1E2D)

That'll keep her busy.
And her future generations...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 04:02 PM (Sco7b)

131
Ca. Gov greaseball was worse... He said Trump ranted like a mad King and needed to get the 25th Amendment



The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter

Posted by: Sam Spade at July 17, 2026 04:02 PM (Riz8t)

132 If you are 50% Indian, 25% black African, and 25% north European like Kamala you are either Indian or Black whichever is more useful at the moment.

Until she demanded everyone recognize she was being discriminated against because she was black.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (sKqQm)

I thought she looked like "Joe Camel" from the old cigarette commercials ????

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 04:02 PM (rWPJ3)

133 But scans and bloodwork all clean. So happy for you guys, and as glad that I'm cancer free so far too.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2026 04:01 PM (N39Ws)



That's awesome. Good for you.

*brohug*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 04:02 PM (2YhKe)

134 This confirms my opinion that the IC is a greater threat to us than the various foreign bad actors.

Posted by: Butch at July 17, 2026 04:03 PM (98xTj)

135 49 32 Why do you think the networks refused to air the speech and had already pre-written statements..... Some of them are also connected to this...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (bBCpC)

Connected? More like paid. Follow the money.

Some of the "journalists" are true believers, but I think the coordination indicates a payoff scheme.
Posted by: tcn in AK

Trump said paid in his part of the speech dealing with reporters. That means specific names took payola from China to run negative stories on Trump.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:03 PM (E4rtv)

136 DISCONNECTING THE DOTS:

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AKA Consciousness of Guilt

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:03 PM (9VHuR)

137 Until people start getting arrested nothing will change. Also, this is probably still going on to some extent.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 17, 2026 04:03 PM (V362x)

138 If Trump was a "Putin Puppet", why didn't Putin invade Ukraine between January 2017 and January 2021? Why did he wait until Cottonhead Joe was POTUS?
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 03:37 PM (k1E2D)


Whoever the nominees for 2028, it's worth making the argument that if the Democrat wins, Putin will invade the Baltics.

Not because he would; I think he has neither the desire nor the ability. Rather, I will say it because lefty beliefs are a mass of insane dogmas, and it strikes directly at a cluster of contradictions.

Because of Hillary's loss and the IC's lies about Russian collusion, American leftists are unable to fully align with their global fellow travelers. All of the other international socialists are aligned with Russia, but Hillary's revenge quest against Trump mind-screwed American socialists -- and as NPCs, they're incapable of individual reassessment of beliefs in the face of evidence.

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (Sy6m/)

139 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.


By the way Hill Trump started the speech you didn't watch with the economy...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (bBCpC)

140 Dims will never believe this. My late MIL for example. If CNN does not report it is not news, but "trumped" up. She did not believe me after Obungo was elected. However, I did get her to vote green party after I mentioned his abortion ideas of keeping babies in utility closets til they die if they survive abortion.

Changing Independent's minds? Possibly.

The lies began with Barky and hopefully will end with his arrest. I'm not holding my breath but I am laughing a lot, which sort of counts.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (hzuYO)

141
Sorry, Hillary. Democrats are in no way interested in making life better for Americans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (flEsB)

142 Connected? More like paid. Follow the money.

Bullshit. 100% bullshit.

NYC and LA know they are subsidized by the rest of us. Spread that geography out a little bit.

That's all it is.

Posted by: Not A Mod - but a Stern Patriot at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (mn6AA)

143 Oh another funny thing I've noticed with leftists...

"I can't believe Trump won because no one I know voted for him"

Also, "I stopped talking with the rest of my family because they are all disgusting MAGAts"

and "I went to this cute new store downtown and the owner had a MAGA hat on. You know I downvoted him on Yelp!"

further, "Why did I keep running into MAGAts everywhere on July 4th. I mean I didn't even go to the fireworks and all these losers had American flags and Trump hats on!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (sKqQm)

144 After the hubbub of the Gabby Giffords shooting, Barack Obama gave an eloquent speech about how we all have to rein in our rhetoric.

And almost everybody on both sides of the political divide credited Obama with delivering a great speech.

But God had other plans. It was less than a week that Tea Party advocates could point to the head of the Teamsters saying "We really got to take these guys out" , and it forced Mr. Eloquent "Can't We All Get Along" Barack Obama into saying that he's not a Speech Cop.

The speech was to control YOU, conservative America, he wasn't going to declaim a comrade.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (Fi81e)

145 My dog's, aunt, uncle's, brother's, sister's, father in law on the African side gives me 0.0000004% African Blood in me

SO, I CONSIDER MY SELF AFRICAN AMERICAN !!!!!!!!!!!

If Fauxatantus from BOOOOOston can do it, so can I !!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 04:05 PM (rWPJ3)

146 And we have a joint chief Milley declaring he would contact his Chinese counterpart if the President were to consider any move on China. Makes perfect sense in light of this..

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None Dare Call It Treason.

We're gonna need a stronger rope for Milley Vanilley ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:05 PM (9VHuR)

147 " The Third Circus just struck down New Jersey's ban on AR-15s and 30 round magazines." Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Good. In Illinois (ISRA) we are waiting to go to the Supremes, as we lost at a lower level, on the same question.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 17, 2026 04:05 PM (vbXSk)

148 111 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.

2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (hftzA

Ca. Gov greaseball was worse... He said Trump ranted like a mad King and needed to get the 25th Amendment
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:58 PM (bBCpC)
______

That only means that Trump hit the bullseye and they are very worried
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

Holy shit, hasn't that crusty old bint been bitching about 2016 since 2016?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:06 PM (k1E2D)

149 139 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

When is AUNT HAGATHA going to just go away ?????

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 04:06 PM (rWPJ3)

150 further, "Why did I keep running into MAGAts everywhere on July 4th. I mean I didn't even go to the fireworks and all these losers had American flags and Trump hats on!"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (sKqQm)

Fingers dug into eyes, yelling "La la la la I can't see you".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 04:07 PM (Ot/FD)

151 There isn't a single person that doesn't happen to be a dummy, a plain dummy or a leftist dummy, that doesn't already assume any of this. Dummies of any type, are by their very nature immune from being affected by this.

So why do this? Because Trump at his base is a cross your "t"s and dot your "i"s sort of guy? Maybe. Building up a legal case? The left built up a legal case out of anally extracted evidence presented in media side shows. So sure. A bit of both.

Based on what I know, which isn't much, I think it's both but rooted more in him following rules. Trump identifies what the rules are in a system, no matter how corrupt, he gets an understanding of the rules, and acts within to his advantage. I think he thinks he understands things now enough to proceed. For what ends? who knows.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 04:07 PM (3uBP9)

152 "What else were they suppressing?"


Well, covid origins and Hunter's laptop to name a couple other things.

Posted by: the dandy at July 17, 2026 04:07 PM (8l8nW)

153 80 Today is the day news about Fulton County, GA is supposed to break, isn't it?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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Report was supposed to done by today, not necessarily released. My guess is that the administration does not want to waste the release on a summer weekend.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:08 PM (E4rtv)

154 >>> 149 139 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

When is AUNT HAGATHA going to just go away ?????
Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 04:06 PM (rWPJ3)

You think I want to listen to her up close?

Posted by: Stan at July 17, 2026 04:08 PM (vDZgA)

155 “Compromise” to the leftists means getting everything they want, plus more.

“BiPartisan” is when the Democrats act partisan, and the Republicans act Bi.

The normal course of events is for Republicans to lose gracefully, and accept false premises, play Piñata on the news, and manage expectations for the sorry rubes that expected to have representation in government.

Mr. Trump committed an unpardonable sin in Washington - getting shit done that he said he would do. “His kind must never be allowed to rise again” LOL.

It’s all so fucking pathetic and obvious I can’t believe anyone still falls for the good cop bad cop Uniparty production.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 04:08 PM (i1NbZ)

156 When your response to "We caught you red handed rigging elections with an Aggressor Nation" is "yeah, but, like, what does that have to do with the price of bread".....

You're toast.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 04:08 PM (Ot/FD)

157 The first thing you should understand is this type of division is being pushed by China, Russia and the rest of our enemies. 90% of what you read online, especially on social media is demonstrably driven by nefarious forces. It’s being consumed by people who are taking it as the “truth” because they read it online. Ultimately it is all designed to do one thing- subvert and bring down the US government. Any sunlight that is factually and truthfully shined on their operations is a threat to their entire operation. It simply needs mendacity and kneeling to the father of lies to succeed.

Do not let it. Bow to the truth and your Father in Heaven will protect us and set us on the righteous path. Love your neighbor by exposing him to the truth and the light.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 17, 2026 04:08 PM (04KGT)

158 It's like the trivial zero of the Whaddabout equation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (Ot/FD)

159 So not only did the chinks release the wong fong shimmy chong bing bong ho lee fuk virus, they also fucked with our elections so Biden would "win"

Nuke China from orbit, its the only way to be sure

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With Extra Fapness at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (fapp/)

160 further, "Why did I keep running into MAGAts everywhere on July 4th. I mean I didn't even go to the fireworks and all these losers had American flags and Trump hats on!"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:04 PM (sKqQm)
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You forgot: MAGAts have weaponized patriotism!!

And also: MAGAts appropriated patriotism, because we're loathe to show it because we mentally associate it with MAGAts!!

Because they are the victims of their previous mental associations.

And how could that be if they were being more rational than emotional? Or even partly as rational as emotional?

No, their politics is an emotional spiral , where no matter what you're at fault for making the choices you made and "making" them react the way they reacted.

They can't land at Palm Springs airport BECAUSE OF TRUMP!!

TDS is a debilitating disease.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (Fi81e)

161 10

"What if all the DEM popularity since 2006... was fake?"

The economy is perceived as being very bad right now. Trump is getting the blame.

As soon as the DEM primaries are over, "the economy & affordability" are going to be the ONLY things DEMs mention in their ads. No "abolish ICE"; no trans stuff , just the economy 24/7.

And the DNC's finances may be in bad shape, but independent expenditures will correct that, as always.







Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (RCjYY)

162 Saw Gav on TV a couple days ago, he seems to have lost control of his hands again.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (UjdFS)

163
Holy shit, hasn't that crusty old bint been bitching about 2016 since 2016?
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:06 PM (k1E2D)
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You want to know what really chaps her, though? President Trump in office twice. Hillary couldn't even manage once. That hag will never be able to live down the fact she couldn't beat a NY property developer.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (eGzf1)

164 Sorry, Hillary. Democrats are in no way interested in making life better for Americans.

Well, Democrats are invested in making life better for Central and South Americans.

But Hitlary's statement was that PDJT "is not focused" on making life better for Americans. Which isn't a lie because PDJT moves his focus around to deal with the numerous fires the Left keeps setting. Its the framing of "making life better for Americans". which is very different from "Make America Great Again". Hillary comes from the perspective that people can only have improved lives if government focuses on them—like being on the receiving side of entitlements, handouts and grants. PDJT isn't here to make your life better, that is up to you to do. His focus is taking down the impediments so that you can thrive without government.

Further evidence that the Left doesn't even share our vocabulary.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:10 PM (nCgQz)

165 Do not let it. Bow to the truth and your Father in Heaven will protect us and set us on the righteous path. Love your neighbor by exposing him to the truth and the light.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 17, 2026 04:08 PM (04KGT)
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Amen.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:11 PM (Fi81e)

166 The lefty fuckpickles who deride us for challenging the 2020 election are the same ones who believe Elon Musk beamed votes for Trump from his Starlink satellites.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With Extra Fapness at July 17, 2026 04:11 PM (fapp/)

167 I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 17, 2026 04:11 PM (rWPJ3)

168 Do not let it. Bow to the truth and your Father in Heaven will protect us and set us on the righteous path. Love your neighbor by exposing him to the truth and the light.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 17, 2026 04:08 PM (04KGT)

This "division" is a gift from God.

I don't want unity with these scumbags, liars, manipulators, all those who serve their master in Hell trying to rule our little temporary home here on Earth.

I want them divided. Carved off of the body politic like the gross tendony bit of a boneless chicken breast, and fed to the dog.

Gone.

Divide Away, Lord. We know they're going to squawk and scream and rend their ridiculous garments. Let them. And let us be happier for it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 04:11 PM (Ot/FD)

169 > She's graduated to the 6 month checkup instead of every 3 months, so another bonus.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (2YhKe)

Congrats. I'm hoping to go to 6 months after my next one. I think after two clean 6 month checkups it goes to once a year, at least with the type of evil invader that is (or, hopefully, was) squatting in my body.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (IG3/x)

170 Saw Gav on TV a couple days ago, he seems to have lost control of his hands again.

Like his mouth, his hands have been surrendered to the demons within.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (nCgQz)

171
I'm tired of people claiming scoops falsely. Me and Bob Woodward broke the story on military and IC officials deceiving the President and the chain of command on behalf of Democrats and the Chinese, in my book/rakeoff... 5 YEARS AGO!

GIVE ME MOAR ROYALTIES

Posted by: General Milley at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (BI5O2)

172 Headline (The Hill 9 days ago):

"Judge quashes DOJ subpoena for names of Fulton County’s 2020 election staff"

Excerpt:

"A federal judge on Tuesday denied the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) request for personal information from election workers in Fulton County, Ga., as part of its investigation into President Trump’s unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud in the 2020 election.

U.S. District Judge William Ray found in his order that the DOJ could not use a grand jury subpoena “as their tool” to investigate these fraud claims, nor could they subpoena private information “with no legitimate law enforcement purpose.”"

Me:

A federal grand jury was empaneled in January, 2026 to look into Fulton Co.'s 2020 election debacle.

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (rj6Yv)

173
Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton

Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:

--------------

While still 10 years later you blame Russia & Trump for stealing the election from you.

Cognitive Dissonance is not just a river in Egypt ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (9VHuR)

174 I think the plan was for Jeb! to lose gracefully to Cankles.

Nobody fought harder initially than the Establishment Republicans. They figured they would drop some career killing stuff, and everything would get back to “normal”.

The fucking speaker of the House wanted Trump to drop out a month before the general, iirc. Ryan?

It’s a big Club, and … you know the rest.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (i1NbZ)

175 They don't really have a mentality to mean anything they say. They have emotions.

They don't conceive anything (but schemes) carefully, so when they later have to directly flout what they recently said, they just do it. The past does not matter.

The "Let's all ..." was to control what YOU would do. It's not like they ever intended to void it, they just didn't think it through enough when they said it.

They just want YOU to move. They wanted to prime the pump with your acceptance of a loss. Their overture only existed in the context of their winning.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:00 PM (Fi81e)

To quote Cousin Eddie, "bingo".

That's all it was, they were thinking "we won, so shut up and accept what we do". Now that the shoe was on the other foot it was all "Resist! Resistance!"

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (k1E2D)

176 Love your neighbor by exposing him to the truth and the light.

***************


Come out from among them. and be ye separate saith the Lord

and touch not the unclean communist lefty turd walkers

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With Extra Fapness at July 17, 2026 04:13 PM (fapp/)

177 "Trump's embarrassing rant" = scripted visual imagery

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 04:13 PM (/bHKT)

178 We can either have an Intelligence Community OR we can have a free Republic.

We can't have both.

I submit we can survive without the IC. I'd happily go back to a 1940 era America and not have to worry about groups with that kind of power wielding it over Americans.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 04:13 PM (xcxpd)

179 I GOUGED OUT MY EYES BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT TO SEE ANY MORE MAGA HATS!!!

YOU BLINDED ME, YOU BASTARDS!! ALL BECAUSE YOU HAD TO HAVE YOUR RACIST OVERLORD TRUMP!!!

Posted by: One Sane Voice at July 17, 2026 04:13 PM (Fi81e)

180 It’s a big Club, and … you know the rest.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (i1NbZ)

They're swinging it at our heads?

Wait, no that's not it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2026 04:13 PM (Ot/FD)

181 Mike Pompeo! You have some 'splaining to do.

(I never trusted that guy. Especially after not giving Trump the head's up about Haspel).

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 17, 2026 04:14 PM (0CU3H)

182 Saw Gav on TV a couple days ago, he seems to have lost control of his hands again.

Like his mouth, his hands have been surrendered to the demons within.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:12 PM (nCgQz)

-----------

OUT: Jazz Hands.
IN: Spaz Hands.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:14 PM (9VHuR)

183 CIA is Deep State

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 04:15 PM (vdz0B)

184 Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton

Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:


I watched it last night and I thought Trump was amazingly subdued... For Trump anyway

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 04:15 PM (bBCpC)

185 I'd like to know the name of the gal who put, in an email, that "she's running a shadow government" or whatever it was.

Mainly because I'd like to have a face to go with that much stupidity.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:15 PM (eGzf1)

186 Ask the left should anything be on the table to stop racist, NAZI, Russian cockholster Trump from winning an election and you'll get a response along the lines of "You would do anything to stop Hitler wouldn't you?"

Then ask them if it is possible that leftwing elected officials in deep blue areas juiced vote totals for Hillary/Biden/Kamala by casting votes on behalf of the dead/illegals/the homeless and the response you'll get is "What kind of people do you think we are? Our elections are sacred and incorruptible. Well, except for '16 and '24 when Trump stole them somehow"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:15 PM (sKqQm)

187 Newsom's wife was actually asked tough questions by MSNOW and babbled idiotically. She was asked about the investigation starting under Biden and blamed Trump.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 04:15 PM (OXYE0)

188 Iran loves showing off the "Phallic Symbol" Missiles every day. Now whether they are real or not we do not know....

Forget it Ragheads.... Trump's Balls and Dick are bigger the "King Kong" compared to your Mosquito Balls...

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 04:16 PM (rWPJ3)

189 Right now my diet of cold cut sandwiches with no lettuce and canned foods is looking pretty prescient.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 04:16 PM (zZu0s)

190 181 Mike Pompeo! You have some 'splaining to do.

(I never trusted that guy. Especially after not giving Trump the head's up about Haspel).
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Notice he has no place in Trump's second term and the few references to him by Trump haven't been pleasant. Ditto for Haspel.
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I think the whole Ukrainian crap impeachment was designed to replace Trump with Pence in agreement with the Democrats. After that dissipated, Covid 19 came around. And again that was from the Deep State origins.

And Pompeo and Haspel are in that up to their necks.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:17 PM (E4rtv)

191 I wonder if Barky and Mooch are still in the Hamptons with all of this going on. Rice? Valjar? Than hideous Nunan woman? Reggie?

President Trump did not mention the Water Buffalo Hag Hillary last night, but he did mention Obungo.

Did Barky get paler and sprout new white hairs? Did Mooch slam him into a headlock?

I hope they are scared. I hope they try to flee.

My life is based on hope when I am not laughing. It all started with his little pretend DC house and probably the Lincoln Project (purely because I despise them).

Hag Hil was too gorked out on Chardonnay and stumbling around with her exoskeleton after Maria shredded all her stuff not wiped with a cloth. Bill was boinking someone with his crooked shaft. They were left out of the key plans as worthless, washed up old relics, rotting from the inside.

All arrows park to Obungo with no detours.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:17 PM (hzuYO)

192 "What kind of people do you think we are?

Corrupt assholes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 04:17 PM (wOO3z)

193 MSNOW makes me think of the "eternal present"

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 04:17 PM (/bHKT)

194 Report was supposed to done by today, not necessarily released. My guess is that the administration does not want to waste the release on a summer weekend.

Because finishing it today and giving it all weekend to leak is so much moar fun

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (9s47C)

195 We can either have an Intelligence Community OR we can have a free Republic.


Well here is the extension on that...you can't handle jihadi threats without an IC unless you go back to how 1940s America handled foreign enemies that attacked us out of the blue.

Now, I'm fine with it - Muslim cities should have burned after 9/11 AND after Saddam Hussein's attempt to assassinate Bush 41. But the GOPe/Left pretend this isn't a likely more effective response to jihadis then letting the IC handle it...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (sKqQm)

196 Somebody showed a timeline concerning Ana Kasparian's tweets.

They showed the tweet where she said "No one should ever celebrate the death of another human".

And then they showed the one where apparently "ever" expired where she was glad Lindsay Graham was dead, and she clarified that she was really glad he was dead.

She didn't mean the first post, because she hadn't put enough though into how broadly applicable she meant. But she probably meant the second and third posts, because those were honest emotional reactions that also didn't require any thought.

She was just posing as a reasonable human being on the first tweet. Effect achieved.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (Fi81e)

197 Sooo... looks like the Chi Coms have more voter data then the US Federal Government does... because of Lefty State Lawfare.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (mP0Kj)

198
So not only did the chinks release the wong fong shimmy chong bing bong ho lee fuk virus, they also fucked with our elections so Biden would "win"

Nuke China from orbit, its the only way to be sure
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger

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Everyone's asking why Trump gave this speech, what was significant about his revelations. Maybe as simple as providing the evidence of China's attempts to change our election results? I'm not even sure Dems have admitted to China's hostility yet.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (mmrXZ)

199 2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:54 PM (hftzA

Ca. Gov greaseball was worse... He said Trump ranted like a mad King and needed to get the 25th Amendment
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:58 PM (bBCpC)
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That only means that Trump hit the bullseye and they are very worried
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

Holy shit, hasn't that crusty old bint been bitching about 2016 since 2016?
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:06 PM (k1E2D)
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Schadenfreude Fridays!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (iFTx/)

200 The American Pig Dogs are losing and we........ BOOM

STATIC.........

Posted by: The Gayatolla AI Image at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (R6Fy1)

201 PDJT isn't here to make your life better, that is up to you to do. His focus is taking down the impediments so that you can thrive without government.
......

WHAT, NO FREE SHIT ?!?

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 04:18 PM (UjdFS)

202 We can either have an Intelligence Community OR we can have a free Republic.

We can't have both.

I submit we can survive without the IC. I'd happily go back to a 1940 era America and not have to worry about groups with that kind of power wielding it over Americans.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 04:13 PM (xcxpd)
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Well, we can't abide a nuclear Pearl Harbor, either. Ronald Reagan's "Trust, but verify" should address not only our foreign adversaries' penchant for adversarial misbehavior, but it MUST address the problem of great power being held in domestic near-unaccountable hands.

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:19 PM (rj6Yv)

203 I hate it when I don't check my spelling and you need an Ovaltine ring to read my posts.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:19 PM (hzuYO)

204 >>And the DNC's finances may be in bad shape, but independent expenditures will correct that, as always.

No question Republicans have issues. There is still a large portion of the party that is old school GOP but they are slowly being replaced. Ask Cornyn and Tillis.

But it's crazy to look at what is happening to the Democrat Party right now and claim they are some unified monolith we are doomed to lose to. The D Party is being taken over in a rapid fashion by flat out communists and has substantial issues with money. The reason they are broke is because they aren't getting money from the places they always used to get it from like USAID and ActBlue. Hell, they aren't even getting kickbacks from the "aid" we've been sending Ukraine at the previous rate.

The Dem Lt Gov. of Wisconsin who was running for Gov. just dropped out of the race due to gross mismanagement of campaign funds. They're a frigging mess that can't win without cheating which is why they've been doing it.

We've come one hell of a long way from 2016. Many didn't think Trump would even win in 2024. It's July, let's see where we are in September when people care more about the race than they do sunscreen.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 04:19 PM (viF8m)

205
 That hag will never be able to live down the fact she couldn't beat a NY property developer.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (eGzf1)

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She will never be able to live down the fact that despite having all journalists, all bureaucrats, all academics, all the arts and entertainment, all the "public intellectuals" and all the foreign governments on her side, she lost to a man more than half of whose party wanted him ground up for dog meat.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 04:19 PM (flEsB)

206 173
Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton

Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:


C'mon Hillary!!
Run!!
You can still be THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT!
And the second gay one!

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 04:19 PM (Sco7b)

207 The purple lipped dog eater's people ran an election interference operation aka 'color revolution' in Ukraine which forced the duly elected pro-Russian leader to decamp for Russia. The ensuing violence from that chaos has killed over a million. So mass murder. And nothing bad has happened to the people that caused all that destruction.

Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2026 04:19 PM (cDzUt)

208 I think the whole Ukrainian crap impeachment was designed to replace Trump with Pence in agreement with the Democrats. After that dissipated, Covid 19 came around. And again that was from the Deep State origins.

And Pompeo and Haspel are in that up to their necks.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:17 PM (E4rtv)
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Damn, whig! That's a timeline!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (Fi81e)

209 Because finishing it today and giving it all weekend to leak is so much moar fun
Posted by: Community Notes

Also time to smoke out leakers. The networks and Democrats were expecting the Thursday speech to be something other than what it was--they expected it to be blasting Democrat cheating and their response shows. Instead it was about China and foreign threats which weakens their preprogrammed response that it was just politics.

Not even most Dems want China running our elections.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (E4rtv)

210 I hate ethanol in my gas. I wrote letters to Cornyn, Cruz and Nehls about it. Cruz and Nehls replied with no mention of ethanol but Cruz did mention energy supply.

Am I the only guy that hates corn in his gas?

Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (8uzBS)

211 She was just posing as a reasonable human being on the first tweet. Effect achieved.

The left only cares about the ends, they have no true moral constraints.

They say political violence is wrong when they can claim the right is engaged in it, then they say political violence is just free speech or some similar bullshit when right leaning people are getting shot.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (sKqQm)

212
You want to know what really chaps her, though? President Trump in office twice. Hillary couldn't even manage once. That hag will never be able to live down the fact she couldn't beat a NY property developer.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing


Posting online her own photo from younger days with the caption, "Happy Birthday to this Future President" ahead of the election she lost has to be the best own goal ever of all own goals.

There's no takeback for that one and I larf out loud about that.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (s9VOe)

213 181 Mike Pompeo! You have some 'splaining to do.

(I never trusted that guy. Especially after not giving Trump the head's up about Haspel).
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 17, 2026 04:14 PM (0CU3H)

You misspelled Bill Barr.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (mP0Kj)

214 I still want to know which reporters were on the take.

Which were the ones that were being paid (or taking "bonuses") for attacking Trump.

I bet we could narrow it down some; I bet there are a few who are normally almost instant to attack Trump that haven't mentioned him since last night.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (3cUTc)

215 If the IC (intelligence community) was suppressing the China intelligence in 2020, what else was it suppressing?"

Easier to quantify what they were not suppressing.

Answer Nothing that would help America.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2026 04:21 PM (NnhvP)

216 I'd like to know the name of the gal who put, in an email, that "she's running a shadow government" or whatever it was.

Mainly because I'd like to have a face to go with that much stupidity.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:15 PM (eGzf1)

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Imagine Rosa DeLauro ... and then subtract 100 IQ + 100 Beauty Points.

/Good to see you, Blake -- I haven't been around as much and haven't seen you around as much ... Cheers!

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:21 PM (9VHuR)

217 I am waiting for a factual response about the material that was released.

I could ask a child questions like “why do you think the Chinese would steal the voter registrations of 200k Americans?” and get a more cogent response. Or how about- why are their almost 300k illegals aliens in 5 states registered to vote, and other states are hiding that data from the DOJ?

Why isn’t the msm investigating any of the actual material and making plausible, factual conclusions?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 17, 2026 04:22 PM (04KGT)

218 161 10

"What if all the DEM popularity since 2006... was fake?"

The economy is perceived as being very bad right now. Trump is getting the blame.

As soon as the DEM primaries are over, "the economy & affordability" are going to be the ONLY things DEMs mention in their ads. No "abolish ICE"; no trans stuff , just the economy 24/7.

And the DNC's finances may be in bad shape, but independent expenditures will correct that, as always.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 04:09 PM (RCjYY)

USAID is where that money came from so the 3rd party expenditures aren't going to be there this election season as they have been in the past.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:22 PM (k1E2D)

219 "Trump's embarrassing rant"

It should be embarrassing to the perps he called out.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:22 PM (9s47C)

220 185 I'd like to know the name of the gal who put, in an email, that "she's running a shadow government" or whatever it was.

Mainly because I'd like to have a face to go with that much stupidity.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal

Here you go!


https://tinyurl.com/mvdfu2yw

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 04:23 PM (hftzA)

221
/Good to see you, Blake -- I haven't been around as much and haven't seen you around as much ... Cheers!
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:21 PM (9VHuR)
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Not around as much either. I'm hit or miss on the gun thread, too.

Likewise good to see you. Hope things are well with you and your lovely wife.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:23 PM (eGzf1)

222
Newsom's wife was actually asked tough questions by MSNOW and babbled idiotically. She was asked about the investigation starting under Biden and blamed Trump.
Posted by: Smell the Glove

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Maybe the Dems are trying to get that guy out of the way before he gets nominated and then the scandals get so messy he has to "move on and leave the race for a browner, more feminine generation."

Or maybe this was just a courtesy for Mrs. Newsom and MSNOW to be able to say she's sat for those questions from an impartial press and provided answers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 04:23 PM (mmrXZ)

223 Never underestimate the CCP. Here in Canada they threaten expats and their families in China and we have actual Chinese police stations. I truly believe most, not all, but a large percentage of our politicians are in the pockets of the CCP and we are truly hooped. President Trump knows this and that’s why he’s been so eager to kick Carneys ass whenever the opportunity arises and I love him for it

Posted by: kelly at July 17, 2026 04:23 PM (+9z5u)

224 Damn, whig! That's a timeline!
Posted by: Axeman
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Doesn't take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Trump had one op after another thrown at him--Russia Russia, fake Ukraine impeachment, Covid 19, Jan 6 and impeachment part deux, lawfare prosecutions like Mar a Lago and the ridiculous cases in NY state and barring from the ballot in CO, and ultimately a failed assassination. The continuous thread running through this series of events are Democrats in government offices promoting and allowing these things to happen to Trump. And GOPe plus judicial collaborators that aided them as much as they dared like Pence, McConnell, Tillis, and others like CJ Roberts who is over the FISA court.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:24 PM (E4rtv)

225 USAID is where that money came from so the 3rd party expenditures aren't going to be there this election season as they have been in the past.

Has Congress pulled back any of the grift from the myriad of other money laundering operations?

Of course not, we are rocketing past $40T in debt and much of that still continues to flow to the Demonic Party—just not through the direct pipeline of USAID.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:24 PM (pawvM)

226 167 I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 17, 2026 04:11 PM (rWPJ3)

Can you imagine being that hag? She is consumed with envy, malice, and homicidal tendency. Every morning she wakes up with a hangover and gets to see in the mirror... the horror that is herself.

Talk about hell on earth.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2026 04:25 PM (bl07w)

227 All I know is that in 2020 Biden did not get 81 million votes....
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I bet he got around 50 million, and only that many because people on the left are mentally ill and would vote for the walking corpse so long as they promised government money and abortion.

Posted by: Crusader at July 17, 2026 04:25 PM (TN0g+)

228
Here you go!


https://tinyurl.com/mvdfu2yw
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 04:23 PM (hftzA)
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Lisa Page, is that you? Now with less gums!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:25 PM (eGzf1)

229 > @HillaryClinton

Embarrassing is your husband schtuping a girl
young enough to be his daughter in the Oval Office while you’re just a floor away.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 17, 2026 04:25 PM (04KGT)

230 "Trump: I asked Darline Graham to run for U.S. Senate in the special Republican primary on Tuesday, August 11."

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:25 PM (GD0B3)

231 220 185 I'd like to know the name of the gal who put, in an email, that "she's running a shadow government" or whatever it was.

Mainly because I'd like to have a face to go with that much stupidity.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal

Here you go!


https://tinyurl.com/mvdfu2yw
Posted by: Piper

And she works for former Obama DoJ high official Lisa Monaco there at Microsux.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:26 PM (E4rtv)

232 Thanks Piper.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 17, 2026 04:26 PM (eGzf1)

233 >>Never underestimate the CCP. Here in Canada they threaten expats and their families in China and we have actual Chinese police stations. I truly believe most, not all, but a large percentage of our politicians are in the pockets of the CCP and we are truly hooped. President Trump knows this and that’s why he’s been so eager to kick Carneys ass whenever the opportunity arises and I love him for it

Read this if you have any doubt we are just getting started unraveling what China was doing and likely continues to do in our elections. This is all well documented.

https://tinyurl.com/yn6wevfk

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 04:26 PM (viF8m)

234 I truly believe most, not all, but a large percentage of our politicians are in the pockets of the CCP

Thats true for all Western governments.

China learned a long time ago that it is cheaper to buy politicians than it is to build aircraft carriers.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:27 PM (pawvM)

235 230 "Trump: I asked Darline Graham to run for U.S. Senate in the special Republican primary on Tuesday, August 11."

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:25 PM (GD0B3)

See... I told you all this was part of the plan.. I knew she wouldn't be doing it without Trump's approval

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 04:27 PM (bBCpC)

236 OH, and I think we might bomb Canada for the "filthy, polluted air.."

"Trump: 'We are holding Canada responsible for the fact that they are not properly maintaining their Forests, and Brush therein, and the United States is being unnecessarily invaded by filthy, polluted, and unhealthy air, the quality of which is dangerous, and totally unacceptable! I will call the Prime Minister during the day to find out what they are going to do about it. The cost is incalculable! Canada has refused to engage in basic Forest Management and Debris Removal, knowing that such refusal will lead to exactly this result. This is Willful Negligence, and becoming a yearly occurrence, costing the United States Billions of Dollars, which cost of this pollution must of necessity be added to the TARIFFS Canada is currently paying. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP"

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:27 PM (GD0B3)

237 215 If the IC (intelligence community) was suppressing the China intelligence in 2020, what else was it suppressing?"

Easier to quantify what they were not suppressing.

Answer Nothing that would help America.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2026 04:21 PM (NnhvP)

Let's jump in the wayback machine, to 1983... the CIA had positive intelligence that Iran had designed, built, and drove across Iraq, the Garbage truck that blew up the Marine Barracks in Beirut... but buried it and classified it, because THEY did not want us to take on Islam while they were worried about the Soviet Union.

Some memos were accidentally declassed a few years ago, for about 10 minutes, then reclassed... that brought the whole lie about not really knowing who did it, to light.

Why? partly because they had intel BEFORE the Barracks got bombed, which they did not share...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (mP0Kj)

238 And the DNC's finances may be in bad shape, but independent expenditures will correct that, as always.

Posted by: mnw

They have lost a big portion of AID /ACT BLUE money but the launderers for Gulf state and Chinese money are there.

The corporate squeeze they used to expect will narrow down to commie CEO's.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (Y8DZL)

239 I tried to send a few article to a friend of mine in Canada. He was blocked from reading them. Apparently Foxnews is blocked too. I had to screenshot it. That country is gone.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (04KGT)

240 USAID is where that money came from so the 3rd party expenditures aren't going to be there this election season as they have been in the past.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 17, 2026 04:22 PM (k1E2D)
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They've been smurfing low non-reportable donations for decades. USAID was just a portion of the operation. Keep in mind that in Minneapolis alone and esitmated $18 Million a week in cash was taken out of the country via international flights as part of the multitude of frauds. That money goes overseas, and portion is pushed back to the Democrats thruough these "grassroots" small donations. Hillary was actually using a Sheik in Saudi Arabia to do that, and he was put under house arrest when she lost.

They have a multitude of ways to get the funds they need...every one of them egregious. It would not surprise me to learn that Media Outlets accept payment for airtime then pay that amount back into a separate account that the candidate then pushes back in small unreportable donations through orgs like ActBlue.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (dIske)

241
Of course not, we are rocketing past $40T in debt and much of that still continues to flow to the Demonic Party—just not through the direct pipeline of USAID.
Posted by: Community Notes

AID had the machinery in place as connecting with foreigners and media operations. Right now, funding is disrupted as AID was the spigot directing other ngos, etc. to direct funds appropriately and stage (and probably pay) for media hits. ActBlue is similarly disrupted by investigations and the risk that foreign cash recycled from US spending will be discovered.

It takes time to set up plausible deniability.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (E4rtv)

242 Maxism Socialism Now

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 04:29 PM (vdz0B)

243 Am I the only guy that hates corn in his gas?

Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (8uzBS)

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Nope. And I was pissed when I stopped at a truck stop in Ash Fork, AZ a couple years ago cuz they seemed to have the lowest price around.

After filling my tank I realized it said "E15" on a sticker on the pump.

Was in Iowa for the first time a couple weeks ago driving with a friend and saw LOTS of corn fields. He lives in Cedar Rapids, and most of the folks are pissed that they're building two giant data centers on the outskirts ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:29 PM (9VHuR)

244 I'm pretty sure Thom Tillis has already received his marching orders from whoever is his new paymaster.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 04:29 PM (n5tGW)

245 USAID is where that money came from so the 3rd party expenditures aren't going to be there this election season as they have been in the past.

Don't forget that this recent "Affordable Housing Bill" that Trump didn't sign was tens of billions in unmarked bills given to the usual Demonic Party laundering operations.

They timed this so that the money will flow back to the streets again in time for the November "elections".

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 04:30 PM (pawvM)

246 Pray for President Trump is you're not already doing so and pray a lot. He has so many people against him.

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (Bw1/o)

247 Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:29 PM (9VHuR)

Turning food in gas, while there are still hungry people in the world.. is downright evil IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (mP0Kj)

248 238 And the DNC's finances may be in bad shape, but independent expenditures will correct that, as always.

Posted by: mnw


No, it doesn't and that is because of the coordination rules. Ironically the GOP is in better shape over that because of the recent Supreme Court decision, ignored by those here, that overturned coordination rules by the FEC involving party committees. Indy spending is limited on what it can say and do, party coordinated funds are now no longer under restrictions. And the Democrat fundraising for those committees has been poor.

GOP will have probably a rare financial advantage going forward in this election compared with previous years.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (E4rtv)

249 Now c'mon, lunatics!! She didn't mean shadow-government-shadow-government!!

Geez, calm down!

Haven't you heard that turn of phrase "I'm running a shadow government here"?!

Geez, you'll leap at anything!

Posted by: People Who Were Convinced Trump Was the Kremlin Candidate Because He Wanted to Deal With PUTIN at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (Fi81e)

250 Of course not, we are rocketing past $40T in debt and much of that still continues to flow to the Demonic Party—just not through the direct pipeline of USAID.
Posted by: Community Notes

AID had the machinery in place as connecting with foreigners and media operations. Right now, funding is disrupted as AID was the spigot directing other ngos, etc. to direct funds appropriately and stage (and probably pay) for media hits. ActBlue is similarly disrupted by investigations and the risk that foreign cash recycled from US spending will be discovered.

It takes time to set up plausible deniability.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (E4rtv)

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Although I was on vacation and not reading news at the time, once I heard about the Venezuela earthquakes my first thought was that the usual suspects will be blaming those of on "climate change" and Trump having ended USAID, but mostly Trump having ended USAID.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 04:32 PM (9VHuR)

251 239 I tried to send a few article to a friend of mine in Canada. He was blocked from reading them. Apparently Foxnews is blocked too. I had to screenshot it. That country is gone.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (04KGT)

I have FoxNews on my cable system....
Mom loved Tucker before....
And she LOVED Hannity. I learned to tolerate him...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 04:32 PM (Sco7b)

252 They have lost a big portion of AID /ACT BLUE money but the launderers for Gulf state and Chinese money are there.

The corporate squeeze they used to expect will narrow down to commie CEO's.
Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (Y8DZL)
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From what I've read, Bezos' ex-wife is using her new-found wealth to fund left-wing NGOs, activist organizations, etc.

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (rj6Yv)

253 236 OH, and I think we might bomb Canada for the "filthy, polluted air.."

"Trump: 'We are holding Canada responsible for the fact that they are not properly maintaining their Forests, and Brush therein, and the United States is being unnecessarily invaded by filthy, polluted, and unhealthy air, the quality of which is dangerous, and totally unacceptable! I will call the Prime Minister during the day to find out what they are going to do about it. The cost is incalculable! Canada has refused to engage in basic Forest Management and Debris Removal, knowing that such refusal will lead to exactly this result. This is Willful Negligence, and becoming a yearly occurrence, costing the United States Billions of Dollars, which cost of this pollution must of necessity be added to the TARIFFS Canada is currently paying. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP"
Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:27 PM (GD0B3)

The USA should get gigantic fans and blow it back.

After a couple? of summers of this I can't figure out how they have anything to burn.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (hzuYO)

254 Turning food in gas, while there are still hungry people in the world.. is downright evil IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (mP0Kj)
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Corn is roughage, not food.

That's why you can see it on the other end.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (Fi81e)

255 Don't forget that this recent "Affordable Housing Bill" that Trump didn't sign was tens of billions in unmarked bills given to the usual Demonic Party laundering operations.

They timed this so that the money will flow back to the streets again in time for the November "elections".
Posted by: Community Notes
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Not if HUD slow rolls it as they probably will.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (E4rtv)

256 Is there someone at the head of this shadow government? 1 person in a volcano lair who gives the direction out to the minions?

I think it's mostly self-organizing, but there are also middle managers, one of whom is Obama.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (2ocoG)

257 Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 04:26 PM (viF8m)

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Watch what happens in three days when the USMCA discussion heat up. Carney is going to challenge Trump. Trump is going to initiate the six month dissolvement clause. Canada is going to panic...and China is going to swoop in and purchase Canadian goods for pennies on the dollar. The Japanese carmakers still in Canada are going to pack up and leave. China is going to work a deal to use that factory space for EV's, and unfortunately for Canada, China is going to bring their own workforce in.

Shit is about to hit the proverbial fan for Canada. They should be considering doing a cash transfer to American dollars quickly. While this is all going on we will work out a bi-lateral trade agreement with out biggest trading partner....Mexico.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 04:34 PM (dIske)

258 I seem to recall some news items years ago about ballots printed for some state were found to be fakes that came from a boat from China...
You'd think it'd be easier just to print them up here...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 04:34 PM (l3cgK)

259 So what they are saying is that Chyna has a shitload (a significant controlling number) of fellow travelers running the CIA.

They do Chyna's work for them without explicit direction or getting paid.
So, traitors, not spies.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 17, 2026 04:34 PM (/lPRQ)

260 166 The lefty fuckpickles who deride us for challenging the 2020 election are the same ones who believe Elon Musk beamed votes for Trump from his Starlink satellites.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With Extra Fapness at July 17, 2026 04:11 PM (fapp/)

Is there nothing that Elon Musk can't do??!!

Nice hash ya got there btw

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 17, 2026 04:34 PM (Ek9hi)

261 which they did not share...
Posted by: Romeo13

AKA: Lone wolf known to authorities before violent event, ad nauseum.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 17, 2026 04:35 PM (NnhvP)

262 The USA should get gigantic fans and blow it back.

After a couple? of summers of this I can't figure out how they have anything to burn.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (hzuYO)


GIGANTIC FANS!!

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 04:35 PM (GD0B3)

263 Man. On this thread, It's going so fast I feel like I'm running a shadow government, here.

Posted by: Axeman (Trying it Out) at July 17, 2026 04:35 PM (Fi81e)

264 From what I've read, Bezos' ex-wife is using her new-found wealth to fund left-wing NGOs, activist organizations, etc.
Posted by: mrp
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She has already blown billions and ironically most of it gets wasted on leftist salaries and grifting rather than action. The problem with running a massive criminal gang like the Dems is that criminals infest the entire organization doing criminal things like taking the money. Democrats keeping their quasi legal status have a much harder time whacking their criminals stealing from them than did the Mafia.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:35 PM (E4rtv)

265 From what I've read, Bezos' ex-wife is using her new-found wealth to fund left-wing NGOs, activist organizations, etc.

The media smoke-screens as her being one the largest charitable givers in history. But the charities are all Antifa and related groups.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 04:36 PM (2ocoG)

266 @257...Canada is going to panic...and China is going to swoop in and purchase Canadian goods for pennies on the dollar. The Japanese carmakers still in Canada are going to pack up and leave. China is going to work a deal to use that factory space for EV's, and unfortunately for Canada, China is going to bring their own workforce in.

No! I don't want more chy knee near us!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:36 PM (hzuYO)

267 Avril Haines was a lawyer & White House official who had never worked at the CIA before President Obama appointed her directly to the #2 spot (Deputy Director) in 2013. She seemed to solidly concentrate on China as THE major US concern.

Gina Haspel followed a completely different path as a deeply embedded career officer, joining the CIA in 1985 & spending > 30 years as an undercover clandestine operations officer & foreign Chief of Station before ever reaching executive leadership.

While Haines was Deputy Director from 2013 to 2015, Haspel was working in senior classified roles within the CIA's Directorate of Operations. By the time Haines became DNI in 2021 to oversee the entire intelligence community, Haspel had already resigned from the CIA.

In March 2021, Haines declassified an Intelligence Community assessment concluding that while Russia actively meddled in the 2020 election, China "considered but did not deploy" influence efforts to change the outcome. Her Annual Threat Assessment testimonies to Congress also indicated China an adversarial threat but Beijing still believed it benefited from "preserving stability.

I'd say PDT is correct but solid proof the enigma.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 04:36 PM (NFX2v)

268 Shit is about to hit the proverbial fan for Canada. They should be considering doing a cash transfer to American dollars quickly. While this is all going on we will work out a bi-lateral trade agreement with out biggest trading partner....Mexico.
Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 04:34 PM (dIske)
===

Will the Canadian government strict currency controls for hoi polloi?

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:37 PM (rj6Yv)

269 The USA should get gigantic fans and blow it back.

Send current into those stupid windmills instead of taking it out and voila, gigantic fans.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 04:37 PM (2ocoG)

270 Corn is roughage, not food.

That's why you can see it on the other end.
Posted by: Axeman

Corn is the fat in my ribeye

Posted by: MkY at July 17, 2026 04:37 PM (q6tQZ)

271 263 Man. On this thread, It's going so fast I feel like I'm running a shadow government, here.
Posted by: Axeman

Shadows always fear the light and fearful people have a hard time reconciling information that does not agree with their fear.

Neither the worst case scenario or its cousin Rosy are accurate usually. So we muddle along as best we can.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:37 PM (E4rtv)

272 The 2018 midterms being a dress rehearsal for 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (PIaQL)

I don't know offhand if they practiced any vote fraud in 2018. The dozens and dozens of GOPe people not running for re-election "coincidentally" may have been enough by itself. But that certainly seems like sabotage by GOPe.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:38 PM (uhVAy)

273 Time for the Chinook Nosedive.

Posted by: zombie at July 17, 2026 04:38 PM (Av6i5)

274 Why? partly because they had intel BEFORE the Barracks got bombed, which they did not share...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:28 PM (mP0Kj)
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Well, on the plus side, Ronald Reagan got blamed for it!

Posted by: Our Intelligence Community at July 17, 2026 04:38 PM (Fi81e)

275 I trust the rope budget will accommodate the need.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 17, 2026 04:39 PM (UD2+p)

276 246 Pray for President Trump is you're not already doing so and pray a lot. He has so many people against him.

Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (Bw1/o)


Every night!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:39 PM (hzuYO)

277 So I just saw the Canuckistani woman that assaults a kid for having a MAGA hat...why was she dressed like a gay male hooker?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 04:39 PM (sKqQm)

278 258 I seem to recall some news items years ago about ballots printed for some state were found to be fakes that came from a boat from China...
You'd think it'd be easier just to print them up here...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Arizona and Georgia among others. The connection is Runbeck, a corporation in AZ that provides ballots to a bunch of states and is run by former Dem operatives.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:40 PM (E4rtv)

279 The dozens and dozens of GOPe people not running for re-election "coincidentally" may have been enough by itself. But that certainly seems like sabotage by GOPe.

It was 100% sabotage. But on the other hand, it also rid us of many GOPe idiots. So you win some, you lose some.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 04:40 PM (2ocoG)

280 I seem to recall some news items years ago about ballots printed for some state were found to be fakes that came from a boat from China...
You'd think it'd be easier just to print them up here...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 17, 2026 04:34 PM (l3cgK)

Could also just be that they were the low bidder and not a China op at all. China could do nothing if the Dems were all loyal to the USA.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:40 PM (uhVAy)

281 I live in Grandville, Michigan, right outside of Grand Rapids.

Last night I walked out to put out the garbage and I could swear somebody smoked up the whole neighborhood with their smoker.

Instantly, as soon as I walked out of the garage.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:40 PM (Fi81e)

282 There will never be free, fair and transparent elections with mail in ballots. That's just the way it is. So who knows who should actually be the winner in any race in the places with mail in.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 04:41 PM (n5tGW)

283 277 So I just saw the Canuckistani woman that assaults a kid for having a MAGA hat...why was she dressed like a gay male hooker?
Posted by: 18-1 a

Punk rock band member apparently and her loathsome husband is apparently trying to be a social media influencer. Both of them are hideous and nasty critters along with lunacy so common among white Democrats.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:41 PM (E4rtv)

284 I trust the rope budget will accommodate the need.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 17, 2026 04:39 PM (UD2+p)

Ropes are reusable an sustainably sourced.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:41 PM (uhVAy)

285

In May 2019 Hillary Clinton sat down with chief Russia conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow and called on China to interfere in the 2020 general election.

Hillary Clinton suggested that the 2020 Democrat candidate for president call on China to hack into the IRS to get Trump’s tax returns.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 04:41 PM (Cqx++)

286 Pray for President Trump is you're not already doing so and pray a lot. He has so many people against him.

Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (Bw1/o)
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If the Lord lets him go at this point, He's really got a change in mind.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:42 PM (Fi81e)

287 I don't know offhand if they practiced any vote fraud in 2018. The dozens and dozens of GOPe people not running for re-election "coincidentally" may have been enough by itself. But that certainly seems like sabotage by GOPe.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Orange County steal of GOP House seats using mail in ballots.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:42 PM (E4rtv)

288 Will the Canadian government strict currency controls for hoi polloi?
Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:37 PM (rj6Yv)


Is that chubby short womman in too tight dresses still Castro Junior's treasury nitwit? Anything is possible!

Can we trade MN and Maine for Alberta? Or the province that has that blue eyed farmer who likes the USA? Seems like a fair trade.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:42 PM (hzuYO)

289 190. I think the whole Ukrainian crap impeachment was designed to replace Trump with Pence in agreement with the Democrats. After that dissipated, Covid 19 came around. And again that was from the Deep State origins.

And Pompeo and Haspel are in that up to their necks.
Posted by: whig

I think you're on point, as usual.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 04:43 PM (NFX2v)

290 After a couple? of summers of this I can't figure out how they have anything to burn.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (hzuYO)
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Canada is basically one gargantuan forest.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 04:43 PM (FZ29D)

291 Man, it's as smokey as a shadow government--that I feel like I'm running--in Michigan!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 04:43 PM (Fi81e)

292 >>Gina Haspel followed a completely different path as a deeply embedded career officer, joining the CIA in 1985 & spending > 30 years as an undercover clandestine operations officer & foreign Chief of Station before ever reaching executive leadership.

Do you know where Gina Haspel was CIA station chief in 2016, right around the time Steele was cooking up his bullshit dossier?

London.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 04:44 PM (viF8m)

293 >>>Well, you get the Maine Senate Democrat debate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (PIaQL)

"THE ARISTOCRATS!"

Posted by: Max Power at July 17, 2026 04:44 PM (SwyyQ)

294
Time for the Chinook Nosedive.
Posted by: zombie


Is that some disgusting act performed on Folsom Street?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 04:44 PM (Cqx++)

295 Canada is basically one gargantuan forest.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 04:43 PM (FZ29D)
====

Populated with beavers and loons.

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:45 PM (rj6Yv)

296 282 There will never be free, fair and transparent elections with mail in ballots. That's just the way it is. So who knows who should actually be the winner in any race in the places with mail in.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 04:41 PM (n5tGW)

I'd long suspected problems... but it was the Newsome recall election that was the nail in the coffin for me...

No WAY he got almost 62% of the votes.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:45 PM (mP0Kj)

297 Turning food in gas, while there are still hungry people in the world.. is downright evil IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (mP0Kj)
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If the hungry people don't buy it, why not turn it into something useful?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:45 PM (uhVAy)

298
Honestly his bloody Fight Fight Fight sealed the deal. The thing that was intended to destroy him is what raised him up.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (/bHKT)




When I saw that fist raised, with blood on his face, in that moment I knew how the election was going to go. I'm convinced that his immediate fight reaction and the reaction of the nation at large scared the shit out of the Donk commie cocksuckers, because they couldn't engage in the same level of election fraud buttfucking that they wanted to use without risking their own asses if Trump pulled it off.

They still tried, but it wasn't nearly as blatant as in 2020.

Posted by: USAID at July 17, 2026 04:45 PM (y9nCu)

299 I'd long suspected problems... but it was the Newsome recall election that was the nail in the coffin for me...

No WAY he got almost 62% of the votes.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:45 PM (mP0Kj)

sure, that was fraud. Plenty of suspicious little reported piles of mail ballots seen and ignored.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM (uhVAy)

300 Most of the stuff these corrupt fucks have done in the last 11 years, even the most crazy/retarded stuff that you just can't wrap your mind around, is easily explained.

From 2015 forward, they've pulled every dirty, nasty, butt-ugly, down-low, contemptible trick in the DC playbook, and then invented a few more, in the *SURE KNOWLEDGE* that this time, there'd be no more Donald John Trump to contend with.

Every time, they think "this is it, we'll kill the King and be hailed as a conquering heros by our august class of cucks and swindlers! We'll eat out on this forever, once the new King comes!"

But this time, all they have to do is wait two years, and he really will be gone. DC is about to get lit.

Posted by: General Milley at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM (BI5O2)

301
Is our smoke bothering you?

Ending it all could really help. And relieve the burden on your family and friends.

Posted by: Canadian Health Service at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM (Fi81e)

302
What's left of big manufacturing in Canada is already on government life support, Algoma steel is sustained by grant, loan and fed purchase orders, with small business machine shops throughout Ontario that feed them closing left and right.

Carney's asshole comments about the fires and the U.S. not supporting climate communism seem to be the last straw.

Elbows up types have been knees down sucking CCP cock going way back.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (Y8DZL)

303 Nood.

Scott Bessent: A Deranged Leftist Attempted to Assassinate Me Shortly After I Became Secretary of the Treasury
The New Republic: Don't You Understand You're Forcing Us Lefties to Murder You?

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (Sco7b)

304 297 Turning food in gas, while there are still hungry people in the world.. is downright evil IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:31 PM (mP0Kj)
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If the hungry people don't buy it, why not turn it into something useful?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:45 PM (uhVAy)

Supply... demand... and all that water and land could be used for other crops.

Grocery prices in the US are through the roof the last 5 years...

It's like Electricity prices in Calif, the more the government gets involved, the higher prices get.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (mP0Kj)

305 Do you know where Gina Haspel was CIA station chief in 2016, right around the time Steele was cooking up his bullshit dossier?

London.
Posted by: JackStraw

And you have Dearlove muddying the waters and directing the Maltese professor to make it appear that Carter Page and an unfortunate American-Greek Trump campaign advisor were involved with the Russians. So 5 Eyes got triggered along with FISA warrants for both. They actually tried to plant money on Papadoulous (sp) who was smart enough not to come back with it to the States.

MI-6 was involved in this along with apparently Italian intel, Australian former foreign ministry spook, etc.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (E4rtv)

306 Orange County steal of GOP House seats using mail in ballots.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 04:42 PM (E4rtv)

yeah, that's traditional though.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:48 PM (uhVAy)

307
Oops. Sock fail.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 04:48 PM (y9nCu)

308 The Hawaii Supreme court just vacated a decision and used their ruling to patter on for pages about white people and republicans. I bet Roberts is creaming himself right now.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 04:49 PM (3uBP9)

309 Well, he's got Herridge so my mind is made up.

Like a stern goddess carved out of Gravitas,
the Last Honest Reporter in The City of Unending Night.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (zdLoL)

310 Grocery prices in the US are through the roof the last 5 years...

It's like Electricity prices in Calif, the more the government gets involved, the higher prices get.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 04:47 PM (mP0Kj)

Those price spikes are more govt manipulation. Eggs even in CA are down to about half or less. Chicken (cooked and shredded) down by a third since Trump came in.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:50 PM (uhVAy)

311 But this time, all they have to do is wait two years, and he really will be gone. DC is about to get lit.
Posted by: General Milley at July 17, 2026 04:46 PM (BI5O2)

Not when Pres Rubio-Vance appoints him Envoy to the EU or something.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:51 PM (uhVAy)

312 From what I've read, Bezos' ex-wife is using her new-found wealth to fund left-wing NGOs, activist organizations, etc.
Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 04:33 PM (rj6Yv)


She may want to walk a bit gingerly. Another Billionaire heir, James "Fergie" Cox Chambers Jr., was arrested on an international arrest warrant for money laundering and supporting terrorism, like Hamas and Antifa, and the US wants him for prosecution.

(the facial and neck tattoos make him look so wonderful, just like some Russian mob boss' kid.)


https://tinyurl.com/53b9xb94

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 04:52 PM (rbvCR)

313 I'd long suspected problems... but it was the Newsome recall election that was the nail in the coffin for me...

Yup. The petition to get the recall on the ballot was hugely popular but the actual recall magically wasn't. Because the first one had stricter verifiability standards.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 04:52 PM (2ocoG)

314 I don't think you can fully judge an intelligence agency without looking at the positive qualities of the people in it. The CIA has a long-standing tradition of existence to its own spooks and to the Deep State.

Posted by: CIA Chief Spook at July 17, 2026 04:52 PM (wVcYX)

315 PA Democrats don't waste a minute to respond.
--
Haverford Township Democrats
Pennsylvania election process ensures secure and accurate voting

🚨 Pennsylvania voters: your vote is safe.🚨
Our elections are run locally with state oversight.

More than 45,000 election workers and officials help ensure ballots are secure, accurate, and counted properly.

Pennsylvania uses certified voting machines that are not connected to the internet, and every voting machine produces a paper ballot that can be audited for accuracy.

Ballots are also protected by strict chain-of-custody rules from the moment they’re cast through counting and storage.

Counties routinely test voting equipment before every election, and secure paper records mean results can be checked if needed.

Trusted facts matter. Before you share election rumors, check reliable sources and look for evidence—not outrage.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (NFX2v)

316 Yup. The petition to get the recall on the ballot was hugely popular but the actual recall magically wasn't. Because the first one had stricter verifiability standards.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 04:52 PM (2ocoG)

and more to the point - popular among the leftist elite Democrats. This wasn't a GOP uprising, it was the Wine Moms angry at their kids getting Communist indoctrination.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (uhVAy)

317 Am I the only guy that hates corn in his gas?
Posted by: DanMan at July 17, 2026 04:20 PM (8uzBS)
**********
Because I woke up laughing at Ashley Webb's debate and swinging through the chandeliers, I misread this for something else.

Too many Saturday morning cartoons in my upbringing.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (hzuYO)

318 Trusted facts matter. Before you share election rumors, check reliable sources and look for evidence—not outrage.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (NFX2v)

Then how does Philadelphia routinely get more than 100 percent turnout?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 04:55 PM (uhVAy)

319 Make me.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 17, 2026 04:57 PM (4g5V+)

320 318 Trusted facts matter. Before you share election rumors, check reliable sources and look for evidence—not outrage.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 04:54 PM (NFX2v)

Then how does Philadelphia routinely get more than 100 percent turnout?
Posted by: Oldcat

Nope. We don't talk about that here in Delaware County, or the other rings counties.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 07:14 PM (NFX2v)

321 I just came across these. Both are from Brennan Center Org:

Expert Brief, Beware of Novel Claims of 2020 Election Fraud
Any ostensibly new intelligence that the Trump administration might muster should be met with extreme skepticism. Published March 13, 2026

It begins, The Trump administration has recently escalated its campaign to cast doubt on the 2020 election as part of a broader effort to undermine future elections. Senior political appointees have enlisted intelligence officials and agencies to do so, even as these same agencies have repeatedly affirmed that the election was secure and accurate.

And, Analysis
Trump Administration Cuts Make Elections More Vulnerable to Foreign Influence and Disinformation
The depletion of staff and resources at various agencies leaves the government underprepared to respond to attempts to influence elections by China, Russia, and others. July 15, 2026

It begins, The midterms are just months away, yet the Trump administration has spent the last year systematically slashing agency staff and scuttling initiatives responsible for detecting and disrupting foreign disinformation operations in American elections. (Much more.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 07:24 PM (NFX2v)

322 Turning food in gas, while there are still hungry people in the world.. is downright evil
——-

Not this shit again. Corn ethanol is stupid in a lot of ways, but this is not factual.

Corn is just feed that hasn’t been turned into steaks yet.

The farmers feed the remainder after ethanol production to hogs and cattle, in fact. DDGs aka “distillers dried grain”.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 07:46 PM (4DF5d)

323 .
So ... after almost four years of tRump's first term, he FAILED to purge the partisans from the CIA. What a loser.

Posted by: Marooned at July 17, 2026 07:51 PM (kt8QE)

Maine Democrats' Debate to Replace Graham Platner Sparks Question, "Say, Why Did We Get Rid of Graham Platner?"

Maine Democrats staged a Candidate Cattle Call last night.

The Context: Maine Democrats held a televised debate on July 16, 2026, as they sprint to replace Graham Platner, who withdrew from the race following sexual assault allegations. The newly nominated candidate will face long-time Republican Senator Susan Collins in the November 3 general election.

Immigration & ICE: The debate was heavily dominated by discussions of immigration and law enforcement, following a fatal shooting by an ICE agent in Biddeford just days prior. All participating candidates called for the abolition of ICE. Pressed for practical reforms under the current Trump administration, candidates advocated for mandatory body cameras, banning masks for agents, and stripping them of immunity.

The debate featured a diverse selection of morons, half-wits, and the mentally ill.

A good cross-section of the Democrat Party, then.

And of course one man who just showed up to say he wants to use the women's bathrooms and changing rooms.

5 Takeaways From a Maine Debate That Showed Replacing Platner Isn't Easy

Maine Democrats vying to become the state’s new Senate nominee met, and mostly agreed, at a debate filled with halting answers and stilted deliveries.

As Maine Democrats rush to replace Graham Platner with a new Senate nominee, eight candidates gathered on Thursday night for a debate that starkly showed the party's challenge in unseating Senator Susan Collins, the incumbent Republican.

The implosion of Mr. Platner, who dropped out days after being accused of rape, has left Maine Democrats choosing from a sparse buffet of candidates who either lost primaries for other offices this year or lack any traditional résumé to run for the Senate.

The contenders are sprinting through a truncated primary process that will culminate on July 25 with a nominating convention where roughly 600 party delegates will choose the nominee. The winner will plunge immediately into a race widely seen as crucial to the battle for control of Congress.

Onstage at a TV studio in Portland, all of the candidates were quick to highlight their anti-Trump bona fides and promoted a broad playbook of progressive policies to appeal to Democratic primary voters.

I think the cattle call consisted of two panels of four each.

Here are five takeaways from the hastily arranged debate, where the candidates had to be split up into two groups because there were so many of them:

Maine Democrats don't exactly have a deep bench.

The debate's first hour included four leading candidates with something notable in common: They all recently lost Democratic primaries for higher office in the state.

Halting answers. Convoluted responses and stilted deliveries. Former State Senator Troy Jackson, Secretary of State Shenna Bellows and Jordan Wood, a former congressional aide, all struggled to match the forceful message and rhetorical prowess of Mr. Platner, whose rallies electrified voters over the last year.


...

The candidates love Platner's policies but not the man.

All of the candidates tried to thread a fine needle on Thursday night: They wanted to embrace the grass-roots energy that Mr. Platner captured and the policies he ran on, while not condoning the behavior that drove him from the race.

For Mr. Jackson, that meant celebrating Mr. Platner's support for "Medicare for all" -- a policy Mr. Jackson has long supported. Dr. Shah pointed approvingly to Mr. Platner's long-stated desire to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Below, some highlights.

It's pretty amazing.

There was also an actual woman at the debate.

But she's a Democrat, so she's an idiot too.

And this Karen too.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:27 PM




Comments

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1 Platner followed orders.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:28 PM (ExV1e)

2 but I don't want to be assaulted."
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No he wants to do the assaulting.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (/bHKT)

3 I haz nooded.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (ExV1e)

4 This reminds me of the Libertarian Party's presidential debates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (PIaQL)

5 🤣🤣🤡

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (GD0B3)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (2YhKe)

7 Those are typical Democrats.

Posted by: steevy at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (YwEeS)

8 Some of the time I think we are all in a giant life sized episode of Punk'd.

Posted by: nckate at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (enNUy)

9 ".....where are we gonna find a new Nazi rapist port-a-potty peter wanker?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (2YhKe)

10 As a wise man once said:

"Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks, autistic. Charismatic. Impressive. Jimmy Fallon, 'The Taxi Driver'? Retarded. Not charismatic. Dustin Hoffman in 'Rain Man,' 'I Am Sam'? Look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Sean Penn, 2001, 'I Am Sam.' Remember? Went full retard, went home empty-handed."

Posted by: Nelly at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (6+ehB)

11 >>I haz nooded.

First and first nood. Well done!

Posted by: Nazdar at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (NcvvS)

12 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.
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Holy shit this guy's a fucking idiot

Posted by: Lennie from Of Mice and Men at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (/bHKT)

13 This reminds me of the Libertarian Party's presidential debates"

Not enough weed...

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (HnvTr)

14 The debate featured a diverse selection of morons, half-wits, and the mentally ill.

To say nothing of the Methodists...

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (Riz8t)

15 A plethera of excellent choices! Can I pick more than one?

Posted by: Maine Kampf Dem at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (sFNX2)

16 I think they should go with Ashley Webb.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (NpAcC)

17 The rapist Nazi was the best they had.

Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (VJX5o)

18 Lol.

Anyone here want to bang Ashley? Anyone drunk enough?

In other funny news, the rumors are true. A FIFA halftime show!

WITH MADONNA!

The casting couch screamed in horror that day my friends....

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (Sco7b)

19 It's Meatloaf!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (wOO3z)

20 stripping them of immunity

And would that apply to all federal agents, or only the ones arresting illegals?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (ExV1e)

21 The contenders are sprinting through a truncated primary process that will culminate on July 25 with a nominating convention where roughly 600 party delegates will choose the nominee. The winner will plunge immediately into a race widely seen as crucial to the battle for control of Congress.

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Only 600 Democrats in Maine then?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (uhVAy)

22 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.
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I don't think there are many branches on this family tree.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (/bHKT)

23 Kurt Schlichter would point out that the stage included a number of geebos and mutants.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (Riz8t)

24 13 This reminds me of the Libertarian Party's presidential debates"

Not enough weed...

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (HnvTr)

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The implied question in my head would be:

Could the Democrat Party be becoming a joke party like the Libertarian Party by elevating freaks so frequently?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (PIaQL)

25 The rapist Nazi was the best they had.

Astonishing, isn't it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (Riz8t)

26 25 The rapist Nazi was the best they had.

Astonishing, isn't it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (Riz8t)

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Janet Mills would have loved to have been the nominee if everyone had just let her have it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (PIaQL)

27 Look man, it happens.

Posted by: Rick Perry at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (3uBP9)

28 Ashley webb

is that human

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (j+aD2)

29 Whomever said Ashley Webb looks like Meat Loaf..........


#ThreadWinner

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (2YhKe)

30 That thing on the right calls itself "Ashley?"

Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (2Ez/1)

31 12 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.
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She could do my job!!

Posted by: Al Sleet, Your Hippy Dippy Weatherman at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (n9eFH)

32
Principled Democrats.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (Fi81e)

33 25 The rapist Nazi was the best they had.

Astonishing, isn't it.


not really, I'm up in Maine a lot

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (j+aD2)

34 The Circus came to Maine.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (ZpG08)

35 It's like a night at the circus and you've taken the brown acid.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (wOO3z)

36 Where are the candidates of color? Why does Maine hate persons of color?

Posted by: nckate at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (enNUy)

37 /Sings...

I write the songs that make the whole world cringe...

Posted by: Ashley at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (mP0Kj)

38 I don't think there are many branches on this family tree.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM
++++++++++
It's a straight line.

Posted by: Just the punchline at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (2Ez/1)

39 Only 600 Democrats in Maine then?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (uhVAy)


Only 600 that matter.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (ExV1e)

40 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.
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After a few drinks, I love it when it gets dark in the morning and light at night, or something like that.

Kittens! Have I mentioned that I love kittens! And puppies!

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (sFNX2)

41 Ashley.

Webb.

wow

apparently this dude claims to be a real female

he bleeds from his butt and everything

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (j+aD2)

42 5 Takeaways From a Maine Debate That Showed Replacing Platner Isn't Easy
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'Cause of the widespread lunacy of a party that would spend a season selling that there was nothing that wrong in accidentally getting an SS tattoo and jacking off in shitboxes.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:35 PM (Fi81e)

43 Maine Dems selecting Ashley Webb might actually give them the best chance. "Let's send this goof to DC"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:35 PM (OXYE0)

44 imagine if Stephen King looked honestly on this group

lots of fodder for his books there

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 02:35 PM (j+aD2)

45 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.
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This guy makes Jim Comey sound like Socrates.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:35 PM (/bHKT)

46 That Webb dude's reddit posts have been found. He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus. He claims he has female internal parts that a CAT scan and colonoscopy failed to identify, but they're really there.

The dude is an absolute loon.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (mkw2N)

47 Shenna Bellows saying she’s lost to Collins before as if it’s a strength is wild. Who programmed this robot?

Holy shit is there not a single person with a crumb of charisma in the entire state of Maine? Sadly, Democrats have to woo people.

There is! He's just also a rapist

Hundreds of war crimes against Iraqi civilians, including women and children? I sleep. One rape of a white woman? CANCEL THIS MONSTER NOW.

Troy IS Maine charisma. That dude is the guy you run into at the corner store and chat with for 10 minutes over a cheap coffee and he always has a story about something. My guy is real.

I’m not gonna lie, they all suck. I like Jackson, but not sure he has IT. His performance tonight could be better.

Ashely Webb gave me some good laughs!! Who the hell let it on the stage?!

Wood has grifted enough and Maine has made it clear over the last year they’re not interested.

This debate is more consequential than whatever the fuck trumps dementia rambling will be.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (5/BQI)

48 44 imagine if Stephen King looked honestly on this group

lots of fodder for his books there

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 02:35 PM (j+aD2)

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"Did that one...did that one...did that one...Nope. Nothing new here."
-King, doing as you say

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (PIaQL)

49 I'm telling ya... Maine's State animal is Sawney Bean.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (BI5O2)

50 “I believe they called it pork bellying by cutting out the pork belly from all the bills, sure that would save a lot of money as well…”

-
Graduate of the AOC College of Economic Knowledge.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (ndZc7)

51 Maine would do better by lobbing Ashley into the Atlantic in a crab pot.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (ZpG08)

52 Ashley.

Webb.

wow

apparently this dude claims to be a real female


It wonders where the real men have gone and won't settle for less that a 6' multi-billionaire who looks like Henry Cavill.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (ExV1e)

53 Last call at the bar, somebody has to go home with the fat chick.

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (XjfpJ)

54 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.

I bet he gets PTSD when there's an eclipse.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (Riz8t)

55 It's Meatloaf!
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (wOO3z)
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Meatloaf, beetloaf, I hate meatloaf!

Posted by: Randy at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (Fi81e)

56 Ashley Webb was the first thing I saw on the news today and I may never be the same. I laughed and knew, I KNEW, Ace would have Ashley today!!!

I don't think there was an audience in Maine, but if there had been one I would have been lying in the aisle laughing hysterically before my arrest. He's got my vote.

At the very least Ashley is schizo as I recognized the eyes from my cousin (who did not wear a dress, but thought he wrote songs and could draw).

One summer day in FL the mailman delivered a rolled up scroll in Christmas wrapping paper to our mailbox from him. Similar to a Christmas Cracker with ends tied in paper ribbon.

It had been through the local airport to check for anthrax or worse as it reeked of cig smoke. There was an airport label of the inspection. I guess verification that I did not associate with terrorists.

It was a strange Grandma Moses drawing of a local outdoor rock concert I apparently attended with him and my brother (could not remember).

I nearly died laughing, in horror as the beachtown knew me, and called my mother. She'd gotten similar that week.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (hzuYO)

57 46 That Webb dude's reddit posts have been found. He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus. He claims he has female internal parts that a CAT scan and colonoscopy failed to identify, but they're really there.

The dude is an absolute loon.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (mkw2N)


We're hiring!

Posted by: The Harvard Medical School at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (n9eFH)

58 "Turn off the Nazi Pedo Rapist thrusters. Set phasers to RETARDO."

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (/bHKT)

59 47 This debate is more consequential than whatever the fuck trumps dementia rambling will be.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (5/BQI)

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The bitter, angry fight to be first loser in Maine is just...fascinating.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (PIaQL)

60 29 Whomever said Ashley Webb looks like Meat Loaf..........


#ThreadWinner
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (2YhKe)

So... dead for 4 years?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (mP0Kj)

61 I thought that was the lineup of the next guests on "The Tucker Carlson Show".
Maybe they can replace Tucker's favorite "military" expert Douglas Macgregor. They seem to be a little more intelligent.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (iVhsR)

62 The moderators were very good, based on those clips. They didn't accept bullshit or bob-and-weave answers. I wish all moderators were like that.

Hate to say it, but my fav was ... the mentally ill fat tranny. He's just some fat loser who got up there with no fucks given. "Why are you qualified to be a Senator?" "I write songs." At least he's good for some comedy. The others were bogshit awful offal up there.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (iFTx/)

63 Anyone of these is guaranteed at least 45% of the vote.

Posted by: Bete at July 17, 2026 02:38 PM (LX4y3)

64 Note, looks like the Chinese Communists have more access to the State voter lists, then the US Federal Government...

/scratches head...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:38 PM (mP0Kj)

65 Maine should be removed from the Union. The yankees there are too stupid to be US citizens and to be part of the United States.

Change the name of the place from Maine to Dummyland.

Posted by: A Whole Mess Of Stupid at July 17, 2026 02:38 PM (45BvE)

66 “I believe they called it pork bellying by cutting out the pork belly from all the bills, sure that would save a lot of money as well…”

-
Graduate of the AOC College of Economic Knowledge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (ndZc7)

Its called Pork BARREL not belly.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:38 PM (uhVAy)

67 63 Anyone of these is guaranteed at least 45% of the vote.

Posted by: Bete at July 17, 2026 02:38 PM (LX4y3)

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In Maine against Collins, it's more like 30% of the vote.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (PIaQL)

68 Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (Riz8t)

LOL

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (/bHKT)

69 Hundreds of war crimes against Iraqi civilians, including women and children? I sleep. One rape of a white woman? CANCEL THIS MONSTER NOW.

Wow. That's quite the take. I wonder how many leftist white women are happy to discover that their fellow travelers wouldn't blink an eye at them being raped.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (ExV1e)

70 Meatloaf looking at Ashley, "I would do anything but that!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (ZpG08)

71 Maine would do better by lobbing Ashley into the Atlantic in a crab pot.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (ZpG0
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* buzzer *

The judges were looking for "by staging a raffle", staging a raffle.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (Fi81e)

72 Normally they have a casting call and include some actors who can deliver lines reliably.

I guess time was short.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (xcxpd)

73 This time, they are sending their best and brightest.

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (XjfpJ)

74 So here we'll do the thing where some dude - up from the North East - gets really vocal that "The North East is just like the rest of us".

They ain't. You get this kind of shit show because that's what comes from the North East.
Posted by: Math at July 17, 2026 02:38 PM (7wXA5)

Now I know what Lovecraft meant by "The Innsmouth Look"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (uhVAy)

75 71 Meatloaf looking at Ashley, "I would do anything but that!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (ZpG0

lol

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (xcxpd)

76 70 Hundreds of war crimes against Iraqi civilians, including women and children? I sleep. One rape of a white woman? CANCEL THIS MONSTER NOW.

Wow. That's quite the take. I wonder how many leftist white women are happy to discover that their fellow travelers wouldn't blink an eye at them being raped.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (ExV1e)

========

"Someone will touch me sexually?!"
-AWFL

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (PIaQL)

77 Meatloaf looking at Ashley, "I would do anything but that!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (ZpG0
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* golf clap *

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (Fi81e)

78 Seriously it's like Raimondo, Sid and Paul had a "debate".

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:40 PM (/bHKT)

79 I don't doubt that a Dem Senate candidate bleeds from his asshole at least once a month.

Probably twice, like a bad case if Mittelschmerz, but for fags.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:40 PM (BI5O2)

80 Hundreds of war crimes against Iraqi civilians, including women and children? I sleep. One rape of a white woman? CANCEL THIS MONSTER NOW.

Wow. That's quite the take. I wonder how many leftist white women are happy to discover that their fellow travelers wouldn't blink an eye at them being raped.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (ExV1e)

I wasn't sure if they OP meant that he agreed to ignore the war crimes or if he meant we should ignore the rape as well.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (uhVAy)

81
So... dead for 4 years?
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (mP0Kj)



It's brain has been, for sure.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (2YhKe)

82 Why do you want to be the senator from Maine?

Cuz that would be like all cool and shit.

Ok, moving on.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (u73oe)

83 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (ZpG0

Shut the blog down, we're done.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (/bHKT)

84 I still suspect that Platner is guilty of war crimes.

Too bad he dropped out so we'll never know.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (PIaQL)

85
"And this Karen too."

Worthy of Honorable Mention at least.

>Maine Moonbat Elizabeth Dickerson (Democrat, obviously) says she is running for Senate because she is "very interested in climate."

https://tinyurl.com/bdhp7y6t

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (2Ez/1)

86 There's a significance to the passing of daylight savings time.

Posted by: Rex B at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (NY5LD)

87 You all saw the tranny image of himself right? Someone posted it on an earlier thread I think.

Contrast and compare: (daily mail of course)
mol.im/a/15985025

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (3uBP9)

88 "Maine Moonbat Elizabeth Dickerson (Democrat, obviously) says she is running for Senate because she is 'very interested in climate.'"

OMG. That woman is not well. I'm serious. She's not mentally ill in a colloquial or dismissive sense. She is literally pathologically mentally ill.

Her eyes can't focus, she's fidgeting like Hunter Biden after a cocaine OD, she's barely making sense, her facial expression is blank, and she looks like she just got out of bed.

She has no idea what planet she's on.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)

89 If Webb won the tranny caucus in DC would be him and McBride. I can hear McBride saying "keep this weirdo away from me"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (OXYE0)

90 Hate to say it, but my fav was ... the mentally ill fat tranny. He's just some fat loser who got up there with no fucks given. "Why are you qualified to be a Senator?" "I write songs." At least he's good for some comedy. The others were bogshit awful offal up there.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:37 PM (iFTx/)

Wait... it's got the Job NAILED...

I give you... sidestep, from Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALREbJZEZk

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (mP0Kj)

91 Your kids are in good hands.

https://tinyurl.com/4tft589r

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (ndZc7)

92 20 stripping them of immunity
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (ExV1e)

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (6wpGE)

93 That Webb dude's reddit posts have been found. He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus. He claims he has female internal parts that a CAT scan and colonoscopy failed to identify, but they're really there.

The dude is an absolute loon.
Posted by: bonhomme

He/she/it may feature prominently in GOP ads in the midterms. The face that launched a thousand ads.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (5/BQI)

94 OT: I wonder if Ms. Walz is leaving the windows open to to enjoy the smell of Canada's forest maintenance.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (Fi81e)

95 After this, I don't wanna hear one WORD from y'all Yankees about my kinfolk.

Posted by: Cletus Delroy Spuckler at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (n9eFH)

96 Why do you want to be the senator from Maine?

Cuz that would be like all cool and shit.

Ok, moving on.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (u73oe)



"The graft, obviously."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (2YhKe)

97 The dashboard lights were more for her sake than mine.

Posted by: Meatloaf at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (kAEfL)

98 Her eyes can't focus, she's fidgeting like Hunter Biden after a cocaine OD, she's barely making sense, her facial expression is blank, and she looks like she just got out of bed.

She has no idea what planet she's on.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)

Climate in Maine? That's FOGGY or NOR'EASTER.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (uhVAy)

99 Her eyes can't focus, she's fidgeting like Hunter Biden after a cocaine OD, she's barely making sense, her facial expression is blank, and she looks like she just got out of bed.

She has no idea what planet she's on.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (iFTx/)

Ok but what are her bad qualities.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (/bHKT)

100 That Webb dude's reddit posts have been found. He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus.
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Just like a chick!

... if you ignore the part that it's not.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (Fi81e)

101 hat Webb dude's reddit posts have been found. He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus.


I've got another diagnosis.........

Posted by: Preparation H at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (2YhKe)

102 What a pathetic bunch. If this is the best they can field, I suggest trading Maine for Alberta, straight up.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (9qk+Q)

103 Good G-d, I've seen junior high school elections with higher IQs and my JrHS was terrible.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (gKWVE)

104 Try picturing Webb as the third candidate in the Lincoln -Douglas debates. That's how far we've fallen

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (OXYE0)

105 Why do I want to be a Senator?

So I can get the fuck out of Maine, bang 18 year old, female congressional aides, and write lines in legislation that gives billions of dollars to my family owned businesses.

Fuck you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (PIaQL)

106 Like the famous freaky bar scene in Star Wars.

Posted by: Random PJ at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (+jscL)

107 our intellectual social and moral betters...

Posted by: sven at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (Int1s)

108 I wasn't sure if they OP meant that he agreed to ignore the war crimes or if he meant we should ignore the rape as well.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (uhVAy)


I took it as they believe that war crimes have been committed, that this is heinous, and that it's being ignored BUT a guy trips and his cock accidentally ends up in the ass of some woman (allegedly) and everyone is up in arms like it's a big deal.

Maybe that's not how they meant it but I see no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (ExV1e)

109 I suggest trading Maine for Alberta, straight up.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (9qk+Q)

They won't let us have Alberta but they might give us $32 worth of glass beads and a woodcut of a beaver.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 02:45 PM (gKWVE)

110 Her eyes can't focus, she's fidgeting like Hunter Biden after a cocaine OD, she's barely making sense, her facial expression is blank, and she looks like she just got out of bed.

She has no idea what planet she's on.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

We just want free healthcare.

Posted by: Disingenuous Commies at July 17, 2026 02:45 PM (5/BQI)

111 I would like to be a Senator from anywhere. Never work a day, and even your great grandchildren die as rich as kings.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:45 PM (BI5O2)

112 "I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night."

OMG. Finally a politician who gets me!

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at July 17, 2026 02:45 PM (We5PL)

113 109 I took it as they believe that war crimes have been committed, that this is heinous, and that it's being ignored BUT a guy trips and his cock accidentally ends up in the ass of some woman (allegedly) and everyone is up in arms like it's a big deal.

Maybe that's not how they meant it but I see no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (ExV1e)

======

Probably that Collins voted for the Iraq War which makes her personally responsible for all war crimes committed by the US Armed Forces in Iraq which is worse than Platner raping a Republican.

Listen, they're not electing their pastor, just someone who will vote the right way and not take money from JOOOS.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:45 PM (PIaQL)

114 Webb actually looks like Lt. Gormley from Blue Bloods........

Posted by: Preparation H at July 17, 2026 02:45 PM (2YhKe)

115 It's like a slow motion train wreck off a cliff carrying nuclear fuel into a burning dumpster between an elementary school and a retirement home.

You can't NOT watch...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (2Ez/1)

116 I wish someone could explain to my why men pretending to be women trannies fear "assault" if they use the mens room to take a whiz. Dear Ashley fears this trans nightmare like a Stephen King novel (who also looks like an old trans cat lady who adopts ferals).

My idea of assault is probably different than theirs.

Mine: Men laughing at urinals and pointing with their free hand to the creature before throwing him out and showing his crinoline petticoat.

His/hers/trans/freak: I am more gorgeous than Sidney Sweeney and I will be rape raped (and like it!).

I conclude that public bathrooms are the highlight of their freak day in my anthropology study of trans.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (hzuYO)

117 Trump + military actions = "War Crimes"

Because war actions and meanness.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (Fi81e)

118 Maine is one fucked up place. I've been there a couple of times but I never realized that they had so many issues.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (sYM3s)

119 Norm Macdonald had a thing about the perfect joke.

He said the perfect joke would have a setup and punchline that are exactly the same. I humbly submit:.

"He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus."

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (/bHKT)

120 “I'm a songwriter and I write my own books."

She has a cooter too, (aka “front hole” what more qualification is really necessary? Isn’t it time we elect a Vagina-American? Penis-Americans are icky

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (2/ueB)

121 I wasn't sure if they OP meant that he agreed to ignore the war crimes or if he meant we should ignore the rape as well.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (uhVAy)

The rape of the white woman is not politically useful to him and he probably thinks they are all whores who are begging for it, its the commie position. Thats probably what it is.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (zZu0s)

122 In the Amazon Prime miniseries, the part of Elizabeth Dickerson will be played by Holly Hunter.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (n9eFH)

123 106 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (PIaQL)

and this too is the story of Graham Platner....

Posted by: sven at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (Int1s)

124 119 Trump + military actions = "War Crimes"

Because war actions and meanness.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (Fi81e)

=====

They mentioned Iraq and are talking within the context of the Maine Senate race.

It's much more likely it's about Collins voting for the Iraq War than anything about Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (PIaQL)

125 That Webb dude's reddit posts have been found. He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus.

Sorry about that. We've had some supply chain issues with our lettuce vendor.

Posted by: Taco Bell at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (5/BQI)

126 67 “I believe they called it pork bellying by cutting out the pork belly from all the bills, sure that would save a lot of money as well…”

-
Graduate of the AOC College of Economic Knowledge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (ndZc7)

Its called Pork BARREL not belly.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:38 PM (uhVAy)

the use of government funds for projects designed to please voters or legislators and win votes: they should not be allowed to dip into the pork barrel | [as modifier] : wasteful, pork-barrel spending.

origin
late 19th century: from the use of a barrel to keep a reserve supply of meat.

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (6wpGE)

127 "I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night."


If I may suggest, move farther south.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (9qk+Q)

128 Lord....give me strength.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (2YhKe)

129 Susan Collin's delivery is stilted too. She sounds, and acts like someone about to have a massive seizure.

Look, I get that "we" need her to remain in the Senate, but for God's sake Maine, find another Republican who doesn't appear to be at death's door all the time.

And, no, she's not alone. 3/4 of the sitting GOP need to be replaced with younger, conservatives not married to the corrupt system in place. As we debate the mental acuity of McConnell and the duplicity of Thune.

*spits*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (jehhT)

130 So I can get the fuck out of Maine, bang 18 year old, female congressional aides, and write lines in legislation that gives billions of dollars to my family owned businesses.

Fuck you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (PIaQL)


I would add "Plus, Senators serve for six years so that would be enough to get me a pension for life," but that would require way more civic knowledge than can reasonably be expected. You gotta be a butterface from Georgia to come up with that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (ExV1e)

131
I promise if it gets men out of ladies' room, I will not assault a guy who thinks he's a chick. I'll even try to ignore you.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (Fi81e)

132 After watching that debate 50%of Dems in Maine are saying 1) I ain't voting or 2) I guess I'll vote for Susan Collins

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (OXYE0)

133 118 Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (hzuYO)

Eh he admitted to a degree that women's safety is disposable...

Posted by: sven at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (Int1s)

134 107 Like the famous freaky bar scene in Star Wars.
Posted by: Random PJ at July 17, 2026 02:44 PM (+jscL)

; )

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (6wpGE)

135 "What is your number one qualification to be the next Senator from Maine?" "Well, my bathtub farts smell like our precious paper mills in Skowhegan."

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (gm9Sb)

136 What is tragic is that Meatloaf's floor if it were the Democrat nominee for President in 2028 is the vote Kamala got in 2024. #ItsACult

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (iVhsR)

137 late 19th century: from the use of a barrel to keep a reserve supply of meat.
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (6wpGE)



Meat Whiskey.......Hmmmmmmmmm


Our whiskey is aged in fine meat barrels.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (2YhKe)

138 After watching that debate 50%of Dems in Maine are saying 1) I ain't voting or 2) I guess I'll vote for Susan Collins
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Wow, You watched it?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (wOO3z)

139 I wish someone could explain to my why men pretending to be women trannies fear "assault" if they use the mens room to take a whiz. Dear Ashley fears this trans nightmare like a Stephen King novel (who also looks like an old trans cat lady who adopts ferals).
....

I conclude that public bathrooms are the highlight of their freak day in my anthropology study of trans.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 02:46 PM (hzuYO)

It is simple, really. If you have more victim points than another person, you are blameless of anything and are immune to punishment for all crimes and should be Senator.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (uhVAy)

140 That Webb dude's reddit posts have been found. He claims he ovulates and period blood comes out his anus. He claims he has female internal parts that a CAT scan and colonoscopy failed to identify, but they're really there.

The dude is an absolute loon.
Posted by: bonhomme

He/she/it may feature prominently in GOP ads in the midterms. The face that launched a thousand ads.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (5/BQI
____________

See my comment above. Pure comedy gold. I can't believe they let that ... thing ... up on the stage in what was supposed to be a serious debate.

I think we now know why they were so hot for Gay Shit Nazi. As bad as he is, the others are much worse. When you go to a whorehouse and your options are a literal horse, a pig, a goat, and a Golden Corral 3, you take the GC3.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (iFTx/)

141 It's like a slow motion train wreck off a cliff carrying nuclear fuel into a burning dumpster between an elementary school and a retirement home.

You can't NOT watch...


Sorry, but where do the flaming clown boners come in?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (Riz8t)

142 I say everyone should choose whichever time they wish. If I want to live on Tulsa time, I'll damn well live on Tulsa time!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:49 PM (ndZc7)

143 You all don't understand... their incompetence is not a BUG, it's a feature.

The dems elected a brain damaged guy to the Senate... could barely talk...

Sadly, for them, he got better, and is now one of the few sane voices on that side of the aisle.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:49 PM (mP0Kj)

144 I mean, it's a reasonable assumption that all Dems are at least casually gay.

But if it's a tranny, you know he's the submissive partner, and that makes it even worse.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:49 PM (BI5O2)

145 "I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night."

Dude must have flipped his shit when he saw Tattooine.

See that James? A little Star Trek humor for ya

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:49 PM (/bHKT)

146 One of my favorite tiny X spats right now is Canadian liberals insisting that it's impossible to do forest management in Canada because they have so many trees.

Set aside the ludicrous nature of the argument at hand, it's an admission that absolutely any effort to curb greenhouse gases is useless because forest fires will put out many times more every year than what gets saved by partially switching to solar, or something.

And no one seems to realize it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:49 PM (PIaQL)

147 143 It's like a slow motion train wreck off a cliff carrying nuclear fuel into a burning dumpster between an elementary school and a retirement home.

You can't NOT watch...

Sorry, but where do the flaming clown boners come in?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (Riz8t)

Will it create Zombie Dinosaurs? Tell me it will create Zombie Dinosaurs!

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (mP0Kj)

148 At least with Platnercyou know you were getting a gay rapist, which is much better. He's a real man's faggot.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (BI5O2)

149 Susan Collin's delivery is stilted too. She sounds, and acts like someone about to have a massive seizure.

Look, I get that "we" need her to remain in the Senate, but for God's sake Maine, find another Republican who doesn't appear to be at death's door all the time.

And, no, she's not alone. 3/4 of the sitting GOP need to be replaced with younger, conservatives not married to the corrupt system in place. As we debate the mental acuity of McConnell and the duplicity of Thune.

*spits*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (jehhT)

Senate does derive from 'old'. The Romans didn't intend it to be quite THIS old though.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (uhVAy)

150 "...if they want me to use the men's room I will but I don't want to be assaulted."

---------

Good God, man! Have you looked in a mirror lately? You look like the love child of Meatloaf and Rachel Zegler ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (27aLr)

151 Maine DNC: Who is going to replace Graham Platner?

Maine Democrats: *Empties carnival sideshow onto DNC stage.*

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (Fi81e)

152 Oops!

Errata: As it happens, we reported Mr. Webb has a cooter. He does not, in fact have a cooter. We regret the error.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (2/ueB)

153 It's like a slow motion train wreck off a cliff carrying nuclear fuel into a burning dumpster between an elementary school and a retirement home.

You can't NOT watch...



Wasn't this a scene in the movie Broken Arrow?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (2YhKe)

154 But if it's a tranny, you know he's the submissive partner, and that makes it even worse.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:49 PM (BI5O2)

I don't know that we know that at all.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (/bHKT)

155 140 After watching that debate 50%of Dems in Maine are saying 1) I ain't voting or 2) I guess I'll vote for Susan Collins
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Wow, You watched it?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (wOO3z)

======

Collins is going to win by at least 20.

She won by 8 in 2020 (which we're finding out was more compromised that we even thought) and by 37 in 2014.

The whole kerfuffle is hilarious because it's an expensive damaging fight for first loser.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (PIaQL)

156 Basil the Great
@BasilTheGreat
They made a rap to promote The Odyssey (2026)
Yes this is real
Yes it is horrendous
Video: x.com/BasilTheGreat/status/2077759152969953626
7:15 AM · Jul 16, 2026

Chris Gore
@ThatChrisGore
Why is it so important to some that every critic hold exactly the same opinion?
This attitude of intolerance has made discussing films so boring.
My opinion does not invalidate your opinion.
In any case, enjoy this video of
@FilmThreat’s review of The Odyssey to music.
The Only Honest Review of Odyssey Comments As A Song Video based on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYGvGfHhbLs
10:31 AM · Jul 16, 2026

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (iVhsR)

157 The candidates love Platner's policies but not the man.

But, obviously, they can adapt.

Male, woman, fruit or flower, there's not a norm in the whole lot of Democratic commie, comb as eating utensil, parents as their foundational pillars through they worked for real cults, China loving, insider trading, yada yada, members of Congress.

Plus he's a Veteran on 100% disability payments with spousal support.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (NFX2v)

158 144 I say everyone should choose whichever time they wish. If I want to live on Tulsa time, I'll damn well live on Tulsa time!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:49 PM (ndZc7)

I chose 5'oclock... not somewhere, but HERE!

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (mP0Kj)

159 Our whiskey is aged in fine meat barrels.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:48 PM (2YhKe)

I bet you could make an inner sleeve for a whiskey barrel made of jerky. Might ruin the whisky, but I bet that jerky would be dynamite.

My phone does not know the word jerky. Who writes these things, effette New Yorkers? Is this CBD?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (zZu0s)

160 The ones we didn't see clips of, maybe they are more normal?

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (6wpGE)

161 I can see why the Nazi won the primary, it was by default.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (9qk+Q)

162 When you go to a whorehouse and your options are a literal horse, a pig, a goat, and a Golden Corral 3, you take the GC3.

I spent some time trying to figure out what kind of a sex act a Golden Corral 3 would be. It must be popular if they have to number them.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (Riz8t)

163 "Sorry, but where do the flaming clown boners come in?"


I think they're the ones driving the fire trucks.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (2Ez/1)

164 96 After this, I don't wanna hear one WORD from y'all Yankees about my kinfolk.
Posted by: Cletus Delroy Spuckler at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (n9eFH)

*Rebel yell, bro!

I think it is hilarious. I am sure I should think this is sad and go flagellate myself with a whip. Yet I choose to laugh instead in my fire retardant handbasket.

This was the FIRST thing I saw on the news today and I am not used to laughing so loudly early in the morning.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 02:52 PM (hzuYO)

165 Troy IS Maine charisma. That dude is the guy you run into at the corner store and chat with for 10 minutes over a cheap coffee and he always has a story about something. My guy is real.

I'm glad Maine isn't so far gone that Ashley is the dude that corners you in the bathroom to talk about her period...just online. As nuts as he is, he actually didn't seem as insufferable and smug as someone like Lilly Tino that deliberately goes out to make normies uncomfortable.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2026 02:52 PM (5/BQI)

166
Those moderators must have been exercising inhuman levels of facial muscle control.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 02:52 PM (mmrXZ)

167 What a shitshow.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 02:52 PM (+zMHf)

168 Jackson was a former state senator. He came off as an angry, drunken ignorant nitwit

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (OXYE0)

169 "I don't want to hurt anybody, I just want to use the bathroom...if they want me to use the men's room I will but I don't want to be assaulted."

Comedy gold! I like this guy. He can't be real. He's got to be a comedian with a drag gimmick. He looks like a stoned, goofy retard that someone like John Belusi would play back in his heyday.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (iFTx/)

170 "I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night."

--

Finally, someone in modern day American politics that can rival the intelligence of our Founding Fathers!

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (qBdHI)

171 It's like a discarded scene from Idiocracy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (diia5)

172 It's like the creepiest, dumbest people said, "I want to show everyone how dumb and weird I am. I know, I'll run for the Senate!"

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (fgSb9)

173 After this, I don't wanna hear one WORD from y'all Yankees about my kinfolk.

Posted by: Cletus Delroy Spuckler at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (n9eFH)

---
Or your other brother Daryl.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (Fi81e)

174 Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02

Platner was gay too? Why then was he sexually assaulting women?I just thought he was a complete weirdo minus the gay sexual orientation , but I leave it to you, Elric, to clue us all on one who's a secret gay.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (D+BhG)

175 I’ve always loved when it gets light in the morning and dark at night… let’s not be too hard on Bellows!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (yz/88)

176 It is Maine. I knew a girl from there. Attractive until you tried to have a conversation.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (9qk+Q)

177 Men - at least Men like me - don't have Unconditional Love. Men like me have expectations. We'll cut off ties to family. Even a child. I have.

The opposite is a Woman.
Posted by: Math at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (7wXA5)

the fact that 70-90 percent of divorces are started by women says otherwise.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (uhVAy)

178 174 It's like a discarded scene from Idiocracy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (diia5)

========

"Conservatives aren't allowed to like Idiocracy! It's about W and Trump!"
-the left

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (PIaQL)

179 The ones we didn't see clips of, maybe they are more normal?
Posted by: m

That's a lot of wishful thinking.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (wOO3z)

180 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night."

-----------

The judges also would have accepted "Poor kids are just as bright as white children."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (27aLr)

181 It's like a discarded scene from Idiocracy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (diia5)
---
Without the obvious choice of Camacho.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (Fi81e)

182 174 It's like a discarded scene from Idiocracy.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (diia5)

Yeah, we had to cut that scene out, too unbelievable.

Posted by: Idiocracy Editor at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (mP0Kj)

183 The whole kerfuffle is hilarious because it's an expensive damaging fight for first loser.

And not just for Maine. The entire country has been watching this fiasco, and I'd guess many people are wondering if the DNC needs to be medicated, but it certainly can't be trusted with power in ANY state.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (Riz8t)

184 After this, I don't wanna hear one WORD from y'all Yankees about my kinfolk.

Posted by: Cletus Delroy Spuckler at July 17, 2026 02:42 PM (n9eFH)

---
Or your other brother Daryl.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (Fi81e)

The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (uhVAy)

185
The most convincing evidence yet that China is picking our political candidates.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (mmrXZ)

186 Janet Mills would have loved to have been the nominee if everyone had just let her have it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (PIaQL)


Elections in New England do sometimes work like "I'm a Democrat, whoo hoo" and then you get to loaf around and maybe show up to a cocktail party.
Not, however, in Maine where Collins will make you get off your ass.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (gKWVE)

187 I can say this: our homosexual sadist Senator actually killed a shitload of people in between his boy parties.

All we get from Platner is big talk about what he *would* do, if he had an ax, and a prostrate male victim.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (BI5O2)

188
Good God, man! Have you looked in a mirror lately? You look like the love child of Meatloaf and Rachel Zegler ...
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:50 PM (27aLr)
**************

Nay, my good man: Lena Dunham.

His/her favorite tee shirt reads: Assault me...please!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (hzuYO)

189 Platner was gay too? Why then was he sexually assaulting women?I just thought he was a complete weirdo minus the gay sexual orientation , but I leave it to you, Elric, to clue us all on one who's a secret gay.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (D+BhG)

You'll remember, Fen, that Platner spoke of wanting to screw another fella in the ass- not in a gay way- but to 'dominate' them. Like a viking. This was per an ex-gf, iirc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (zZu0s)

190 The idea that Democrat voters care about issues and positions should have been dismissed long ago. All they care about is "Who has the (D) after their name? Whoever that is has my vote!"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (CHHv1)

191 186 The whole kerfuffle is hilarious because it's an expensive damaging fight for first loser.

And not just for Maine. The entire country has been watching this fiasco, and I'd guess many people are wondering if the DNC needs to be medicated, but it certainly can't be trusted with power in ANY state.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (Riz8t)

=======

I don't think these sorts of things translate well to other states. Neighboring states, especially small states like in New England, I would imagine the effect larger (could make the NH senate race closer, maybe), but are the people of NC going to equate Roy Cooper with Graham Platner?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (PIaQL)

192 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.
---------

I don't think there are many branches on this family tree.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (/bHKT)

------------

In genealogy I believe they call it a "family stump."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (27aLr)

193 When you go to a whorehouse and your options are a literal horse, a pig, a goat, and a Golden Corral 3, you take the GC3.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Whoa! Let's not be so hasty here...

Posted by: Muhammed at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (5/BQI)

194 You're as dumb as your dumbest statement during a debate the whole country can see.

So, no, the rest of the debate wasn't "smarter."

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (fgSb9)

195 Those moderators must have been exercising inhuman levels of facial muscle control.

During the breaks, they were mainlining Botox.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (Riz8t)

196 Would you say these Maine Dems are Not Ready For Prime Time?

Posted by: Lorne Michaels at July 17, 2026 02:56 PM (wVcYX)

197 174 It's like a discarded scene from Idiocracy.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM
###

It's got electrolytes. Plants love it.

Posted by: Brawndo at July 17, 2026 02:56 PM (2Ez/1)

198 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (uhVAy)
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I know. I reflected on that for about 2 seconds.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:56 PM (Fi81e)

199 Why are they still trying to make Zendaya a thing?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:56 PM (2YhKe)

200 leave it to you, Elric, to clue us all on one who's a secret gay.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (D+BhG)


Platner was posting about fantasies about doing other men LIKE A VIKING if they broke into his home.
That's pretty gay in my book.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 02:56 PM (gKWVE)

201 193 The idea that Democrat voters care about issues and positions should have been dismissed long ago. All they care about is "Who has the (D) after their name? Whoever that is has my vote!"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (CHHv1)

======

Partisans are partisan.

For most, it's like having a favorite football team and only paying attention when they get to the Super Bowl. However, there are only two teams in American football politics, and the team always makes the Super Bowl.

It's just a thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (PIaQL)

202 Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02

Platner was gay too? Why then was he sexually assaulting women?I just thought he was a complete weirdo minus the gay sexual orientation , but I leave it to you, Elric, to clue us all on one who's a secret gay.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (D+BhG)
_______

He bragged about jerking off in porta-potties. He bragged that he would anally rape men to show his dominance.

There is no straight guy on the planet who would do such things, let alone admit them publicly.

Dude is gaaaaaaaaaaay.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (iFTx/)

203 Will the new Maine Dem Senate nominee be at least as intelligent and wise as Caligula's horse would have been in the Roman Senate?

My Magik 8-Ball says: "No frickin way!"

Posted by: Gref at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (WVdA/)

204 You're as dumb as your dumbest statement during a debate the whole country can see.

So, no, the rest of the debate wasn't "smarter."
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (fgSb9)

At some point just being there is guilt by association. This is the future leader of your party?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (uhVAy)

205 This looks like a group of mutants from a 1950s SF movie

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (sKqQm)

206 It is Maine. I knew a girl from there. Attractive until you tried to have a conversation.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (9qk+Q)

Yeah.

That's when you see the dental work crafted from hardwood and barnyard animals' castoffs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (BI5O2)

207 In genealogy I believe they call it a "family stump."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (27aLr)

NOT FUNNY

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (/bHKT)

208 The problem is never, ever the message.

Only the messenger.

I've said it many times before. It's magical thinking.

They really do believe if they can just find the right incantation, they can alter our perceptions of reality to match their own.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (FZ29D)

209 I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.

------

I'm going to have this printed on a T-shirt...to show how smart I am.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 17, 2026 02:58 PM (fgSb9)

210 Key moment of the debate/interview process:

Troy Jackson: "We have some common ground here, I think. For example, I'm quite sure we all put our pants on before our shoes so as to allow our legs to slide in easier."

Shenna Bellows: "You..I mean....THAT WORKS? I never even considered...That's amazing. I mean...that REALLY works?"

Ashley Webb: "Oh, that's great. But, also a result of privilege. I don't WEAR pants!!! And, if I were allowed to do my business in the Girl's Room, I could show you right now."

Moderator: "Ms. Bellows, please put your shoes and slacks back on. This is being televised."

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 02:58 PM (dIske)

211 Platner was posting about fantasies about doing other men LIKE A VIKING if they broke into his home.
That's pretty gay in my book.



Right?

Posted by: Liberace's candelabrum at July 17, 2026 02:58 PM (Riz8t)

212 Personally I prefer when it gets dark in the morning and light at night. That's cuz when I wake up I forget I have a sleep mask on, and at first I panic cuz I think I went blind. That wakes you up quick! I'm not sure why I like it light at night, maybe cuz I don't bump into things.

Posted by: AOC at July 17, 2026 02:58 PM (YSQQv)

213 You'll remember, Fen, that Platner spoke of wanting to screw another fella in the ass- not in a gay way- but to 'dominate' them. Like a viking. This was per an ex-gf, iirc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (zZu0s)



I got news for him.....

Posted by: Ice-T at July 17, 2026 02:58 PM (2YhKe)

214 "I love when I sit in a chair, and stand up from.... a chair."

Posted by: BELLOWS at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM (/bHKT)

215 201 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.
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So am I.

Posted by: The Bern at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM (2Ez/1)

216 The idea that Democrat voters care about issues and positions should have been dismissed long ago. All they care about is "Who has the (D) after their name? Whoever that is has my vote!"

Remember when Trump fired Comey? Colbert was broadcasting his live show and the audience started cheering. The left had been arguing for Comey to be fired for some time.

But Colbert voxplained to them that this was now bad and after about 5m of him haranguing them they all started booing Comey being fired.

This was a case of seeing the NPC software being updated live.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM (sKqQm)

217 I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.

------

I'm going to have this printed on a T-shirt...to show how smart I am.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 17, 2026 02:58 PM (fgSb9)

it does seem better than the alternative.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM (uhVAy)

218 143 It's like a slow motion train wreck off a cliff carrying nuclear fuel into a burning dumpster between an elementary school and a retirement home.

You can't NOT watch...

Sorry, but where do the flaming clown boners come in?
****

They are why the dumpster is on fire.

Posted by: clarence at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM (1QT7n)

219 142. When you go to a whorehouse and your options are a literal horse, a pig, a goat, and a Golden Corral 3, you take the GC3.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

🤣

Now for the serious side: Law school quiz? 😬

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM (NFX2v)

220 imagine if Stephen King looked honestly on this group

lots of fodder for his books there


It turns out random small towns in Maine are an excellent setting for horror stories.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM (2ocoG)

221 I was very pessimistic about Collin's chances until the DEMs' Platner debacle. That means the DEM nominee will have lost a lot of campaign time-- wasted on Platner.

Collins, meanwhile, is reported to have an $8 million war chest. I think she must now be regarded as the favorite.

However Cooper (D) in NC is cruising for the GOP seat previously held by Tillis (R). Cooper leads by even more than Ossoff does in GA, even though Ossoff ia an incumbent.

The Senate race in MI is quite interesting, & might yield a GOP pickup. Esp so if the DEMs nominate that "abolish the police" jihadist El-Sayed. He seems to have a good chance of winning the DEM primary.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (RCjYY)

222 Do better Maine. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (wvc0i)

223 The Maine debate should have been called " who's as dumb as Maisie Hirono"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (OXYE0)

224 Very Timely !

PSA!!!



How to spot a Communist (and remember kids, Socialism is a gateway to Communism !)

"Wasson Watch Co.
@WassonWatch
1h
Look out for Communists

https://tinyurl.com/yfr9hj5s "

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (GD0B3)

225 "I love it when a cow goes moo, and cat goes meow."

Posted by: BELLOWS at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (/bHKT)

226 The entire country has been watching this fiasco, and I'd guess many people are wondering if the DNC needs to be medicated, but it certainly can't be trusted with power in ANY state.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (Riz8t)

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I don't think these sorts of things translate well to other states. Neighboring states, especially small states like in New England, I would imagine the effect larger (could make the NH senate race closer, maybe), but are the people of NC going to equate Roy Cooper with Graham Platner?



At some point just being there is guilt by association. This is the future leader of your party?


Yup. That was my point. If your party is that stupid in Maine, you have to start wondering about your own state.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (Riz8t)

227
The rapist Nazi was the best they had.
Posted by: huerfano

==============

I bet that Council of 600 tries to get him back on the ballot.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (mmrXZ)

228 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.


Weren't there 3 Daryls?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

229 And not just for Maine. The entire country has been watching this fiasco, and I'd guess many people are wondering if the DNC needs to be medicated, but it certainly can't be trusted with power in ANY state.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:54 PM (Riz8t)

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Heard a recent interview with somebody from (IIRC, The Media Research Center) reporting on a study they did of the Platner Nightmare in Maine.

Turns out that something like 54% of Americans get their news from one or more of the following 5th Column Commie Propaganda Mills: Apple News, Google News, Yahoo News, and NPR.

UNEXPECTEDLY, in analyzing the past coverage of those four rags of this Maine Senate race, the found virtually zero stories about the Platner Idiocies.

So, basically half the country presumably has no clue about those controversies ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (27aLr)

230 210 In genealogy I believe they call it a "family stump."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:55 PM (27aLr)

NOT FUNNY
Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 17, 2026 02:57 PM (/bHKT)

/Golf Clap...

One from the Vaults...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (mP0Kj)

231 Do better Maine. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (wvc0i)

From the cheap seats, it doesn't look like they can.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (wOO3z)

232 182 The ones we didn't see clips of, maybe they are more normal?
Posted by: m

That's a lot of wishful thinking.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (wOO3z)

Yes, but ... maybe?

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (6wpGE)

233 Comedy gold! I like this guy. He can't be real. He's got to be a comedian with a drag gimmick. He looks like a stoned, goofy retard that someone like John Belusi would play back in his heyday.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (iFTx/)
*************

I kept waiting for his right eye to twirl around like Marty Feldman's!

Ashley has my illegal vote!

If she stood next to the Maine Governor Mills I think the thin veil will rip and the matrix be revealed, nuclear fission and volcanos erupting in cheetos during massive earthquakes and tsunamis. In other words, End Times.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (hzuYO)

234 She's standing up for us!

Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:
1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.
2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (ndZc7)

235 Platner was posting about fantasies about doing other men LIKE A VIKING if they broke into his home.
That's pretty gay in my book.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 02:56 PM (gKWVE)
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Especially when it doesn't make sense as to whom he's sending that message to.

A guy who's likely going to get raped more in prison? The prisoners who would rape that guy themselves?

Who?? But Platner apparently has put some thought into this, but we can't tell what thought that is.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (Fi81e)

236 "I love when I sit in a chair, and stand up from.... a chair."

Posted by: BELLOWS


Sure, rub it in.

Posted by: Pandas at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (Riz8t)

237 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.


Weren't there 3 Daryls?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

Yes but one actually spoke so I gave him a break.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (uhVAy)

238 Why are they still trying to make Zendaya a thing?

She's a free diversity score that doesn't immediately look like one.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (2ocoG)

239 Ashley is Chris Farley's sister in the Gap Girls SNL sketch.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (bNf8H)

240 So, basically half the country presumably has no clue about those controversies ...
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (27aLr)

Wait, Trump gave a speech last night?

Posted by: Lefty Leftowski at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (mP0Kj)

241 Why are they still trying to make Zendaya a thing?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:56 PM (2YhKe)
________

She's been major characters in movies that made billions of dollars. She is a thing. I don't understand why she ever became a thing, but she is.

She's also an attractive "black" actress who everyone knows is a lefty, but she's smart enough to not go out there like Rachel Zegler and shit over the potential audience for her movies.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

242 It turns out random small towns in Maine are an excellent setting for horror stories.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 02:59 PM
=========

Why don't we hide behind that row of hanging chainsaws?

Posted by: Clueless Blonde Teenage Girl at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (2Ez/1)

243
BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.


How old is she and how long did it take her to grasp this fact of life? What an idiot.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (s9VOe)

244 "Hot Air " has more on these candidates from Maine including:

One of the sterling individuals on the stage was Shenna Bellows, Maine's infamous Secretary of State. I say 'infamous' because you might remember her attempt to keep Trump off the Maine GOP primary ballot over the insurrection clause until crushed like a bug by SCOTUS.

I did not recall that,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (D+BhG)

245 What was the point of this debate? Not like any Maine voters are going to have input on who's on the ballot in November.

Posted by: Octochicken at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (oCS0o)

246 We should trade Maine straight up to Canada for Alberta.

Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (wvc0i)

247 @HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:
1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.
2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.



Oh, f*cking go die already, you sniveling twatwaffle.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (2YhKe)

248 "I love it when a refrigerator light goes on, and also off."

Posted by: BELLOWS at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (/bHKT)

249 Maybe Ashley Webb should break into Platner's house for some ax sharpening action!

I will never be the same.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (hzuYO)

250 175 It's like the creepiest, dumbest people said, "I want to show everyone how dumb and weird I am. I know, I'll run for the Senate!"
Posted by: Seems Legit

It is odd...there must have been a screening criteria? How did some of these wackjobs make it onto the state? We don't typically let losers with only a handful of supporters onto the big stage (like Lord Binface in the UK).

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (5/BQI)

251 224 However Cooper (D) in NC is cruising for the GOP seat previously held by Tillis (R). Cooper leads by even more than Ossoff does in GA, even though Ossoff ia an incumbent.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (RCjYY)

=====

Cooper is running behind Cunningham's numbers from summer of 2020, and Cunningham lost in 2020. NC summer polling is notoriously bad.

Republican gains in registrations (from 400,000 Dem to 10,000 GOP advantage) since Cooper last ran for statewide office put him at a disadvantage.

He last won statewide by 250,000 when there were 400,000 more Dems than GOP in the state.

And, federal races trend more towards pure partisan leaning rather than statewide, state-level races.

The 2026 senate race will be more likely to reflect the 2024 presidential result than anything else.

I suspect Whatley will get a win in the end.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (PIaQL)

252 Look out for Communists

https://tinyurl.com/yfr9hj5s "

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (GD0B3)cartoons.

They were far too lenient and forbearing. That's how we got in this mess.

When I'm King, it'll be one strike and you're out... in the panther pits.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (BI5O2)

253 28 Ashley webb

is that human

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 02:33 PM (j+aD2)

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Manatee

Still has the word "man" in it though

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (9CZQg)

254 There are worse things than a paunchy trans-dyke. (s)he could be angry and nasty and want to kill you pet and feast upon its entrails.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (sYM3s)

255 If she stood next to the Maine Governor Mills I think the thin veil will rip and the matrix be revealed, nuclear fission and volcanos erupting in cheetos during massive earthquakes and tsunamis. In other words, End Times.

Are they Flamin' Hot Cheetohs?

Posted by: That guy who always misses the main point at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (Riz8t)

256 Weren't there 3 Daryls?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

Yes but one actually spoke so I gave him a break.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM
___________
*polite cough*

Posted by: Larry at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (2Ez/1)

257 Many years ago I concluded that the government sector is really only profitable if you are corrupt.
Give that, candidates for public office are usually morons, half-wits, and the mentally ill, with the occasional good citizen who thinks they might volunteer some time to make their community better.
That latter category is very thin.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (RHGPo)

258 Do better Maine. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (wvc0i)
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* Flips Archer the bird *

Posted by: Maine at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (Fi81e)

259 229 At some point just being there is guilt by association. This is the future leader of your party?


Yup. That was my point. If your party is that stupid in Maine, you have to start wondering about your own state.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (Riz8t)

========

"That's just one guy in Maine, another state on the other side of the country. And the party pushed him out."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (PIaQL)

260 Some of the time I think we are all in a giant life sized episode of Punk'd.
Posted by: nckate

The OG -- Candid Camera

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (DZ9Lv)

261 I was very pessimistic about Collin's chances until the DEMs' Platner debacle.

But why? Collins has polled as "losing to actual Nazis" her entire career but always wins by double digits.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (2ocoG)

262 254 175 It's like the creepiest, dumbest people said, "I want to show everyone how dumb and weird I am. I know, I'll run for the Senate!"
Posted by: Seems Legit

It is odd...there must have been a screening criteria? How did some of these wackjobs make it onto the state? We don't typically let losers with only a handful of supporters onto the big stage (like Lord Binface in the UK).
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (5/BQI)

As I said a few years ago... I'm kinda tempted to run for National Public Office... so I can find out what I actually did in the 80's...

Posted by: Lefty Leftowski at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (mP0Kj)

263 Weren't there 3 Daryls?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)
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I only see TWO!

Posted by: Jean Luc Picard at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (Fi81e)

264 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.

That's so deep! (scribbles furiously) I'm going to add that to my stump speech.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at July 17, 2026 03:05 PM (5/BQI)

265 Zendaya identifies as black.? Her father is black. He mother is white.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 03:05 PM (D+BhG)

266 Posted by: Lefty Leftowski at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (mP0Kj)

Sock failage...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 03:05 PM (mP0Kj)

267 Vote for me! My little Totenkoph has a red, Hello Kitty bow!

Posted by: Ashley Webb at July 17, 2026 03:05 PM (IOrPZ)

268 For my own mental health, I have not been paying too much attention to the new DSA platform. I only know that it's insane.

What are the chances we get a serious DSA candidate from the Dems? I think that Newsom said something about supporting the DSA, but it might have been AI.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 17, 2026 03:05 PM (fgSb9)

269 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.


Weren't there 3 Daryls?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

Forget it he's rolling

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:05 PM (/bHKT)

270 238 She's standing up for us!

Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Trump's embarrassing rant last night about an election he lost six years ago made two things very clear:
1. He's not focused on making life better for Americans. Not even close.
2. We should act now to counteract any efforts to undermine our elections.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (ndZc7)

How much would it kill Hillary to see AOC win the Presidency?

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 03:05 PM (6wpGE)

271 265 I was very pessimistic about Collin's chances until the DEMs' Platner debacle.

But why? Collins has polled as "losing to actual Nazis" her entire career but always wins by double digits.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (2ocoG)

=====

Collins outran her polls by 15 points both 2014 and 2020.

And she was within the margin of error against Platner before the last controversy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (PIaQL)

272 Some of the time I think we are all in a giant life sized episode of Punk'd.
Posted by: nckate

The OG -- Candid Camera

==

Impractible Jokers.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (qBdHI)

273 My phone does not know the word jerky. Who writes these things, effette New Yorkers? Is this CBD?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I do the NYT spelling bee every day.
Skip nautical terms. They don't exist. Skip botanical terms. They don't exist. Skip almost any scientific term, they MIGHT exist.
I figgered a NY homo

Posted by: MkY at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (q6tQZ)

274 ok come on this is a fun thread

I'm laughing! it's Friday!

no Hillbitch quotes!

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (j+aD2)

275 ___________
*polite cough*
Posted by: Larry at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (2Ez/1)



Oops......

Was never a Bob Newhart fan anyway......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (2YhKe)

276 Lets flip all the cards "Whats My Line?" style:
A danger to self
A danger to others
Gravely disabled

You be the judge

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (YlWIZ)

277 King was onto something about that. When he moved on from New England ? He wrote a ton about the Upper Midwest.

He's a freak. But I also think attuned to culture. He got, if nothing else, the different cultures here.
Posted by: Math at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (7wXA5)

Not one of his stories is about high school football. Attuned to Midwest culture, feh!

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (uhVAy)

278 Maine Man is edging up on Florida Man as we speak.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:07 PM (Fi81e)

279 Fight the White Supremacist Matriarchy!!!!!

Posted by: Zendaya at July 17, 2026 03:07 PM (IOrPZ)

280 no Hillbitch quotes!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM
###

What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at July 17, 2026 03:07 PM (2Ez/1)

281 As I said a few years ago... I'm kinda tempted to run for National Public Office... so I can find out what I actually did in the 80's...
Posted by: Lefty Leftowski at July 17, 2026 03:04 PM (mP0Kj)

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LOL

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 17, 2026 03:07 PM (fgSb9)

282
BELLOWS: I love when I wipe my own butt and when someone else wipes my butt.

I'm a wiper, not a viper!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 03:07 PM (s9VOe)

283 ok come on this is a fun thread

I'm laughing! it's Friday!

no Hillbitch quotes!
Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (j+aD2)

laugh at the fact that Hillz is utterly irrelevant and she hates it. "We must SAVE Chinese cheating !!!"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (uhVAy)

284 Not one of his stories is about high school football. Attuned to Midwest culture, feh!
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:06 PM (uhVAy)



Pick six, people!

Posted by: Coach T. Walz at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (n9eFH)

285 Who saw that coming:

@NEWSMAX
·
6m
Newly appointed Sen. Darline Graham Nordone is reportedly considering a run for the full Senate term

Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (ZxPkt)

286 177 Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02

Platner was gay too? Why then was he sexually assaulting women?I just thought he was a complete weirdo minus the gay sexual orientation , but I leave it to you, Elric, to clue us all on one who's a secret gay.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 02:53 PM (D+BhG)

I don't think Platner said the words that he was g*y but he did say if someone ever broke into his house, he would buttf*ck them to show dominance.
All of us other men who smack people in the mouth to show dominance assumed he was admitting he was g*y.

Posted by: Nelly at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (6+ehB)

287 Platner apparently has put some thought into this, but we can't tell what thought that is.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (Fi81e)

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Allow me to take a guess.

He was thinking: "I want to tell my girlfriend that I'm a mudjacker just like Obama did that one time, but I don't want to sound as fruity as that guy. I'll go with rape. Much more hetero that way."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (BI5O2)

288
Is Cthillary saying the stars are right?

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (Fi81e)

289 283 Maine Man is edging up on Florida Man as we speak.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:07 PM


Also receiving votes: Maryland Man.

Posted by: The judges at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (2Ez/1)

290 @NEWSMAX
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Newly appointed Sen. Darline Graham Nordone is reportedly considering a run for the full Senate term
Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (ZxPkt)



She found the graft pipeline pretty damn quick.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (2YhKe)

291 If you're going to run around screaming about polls, at least do it intelligently.

See how accurate polling in the same time period in the same state have been in recent history.

Never, ever compare polls from outside the final month of a campaign to polls inside the final month of a campaign. Pollsters run them differently because they are "graded" on how accurate their final polls are, not the ones that were way, way wrong months before (the electorate shifted, my ass).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (PIaQL)

292 How much would it kill Hillary to see AOC win the Presidency?

Imagine the psychic turbulence she's generating already. She married Bill to become our first lesbian President and she was deprived of it by Barack Obama and Donald Trump. Men! With icky dangly things!

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (2ocoG)

293 >>> 231 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.
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Weren't there 3 Daryls?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

NO.

Posted by: Larry at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (vDZgA)

294 Who at the TV station decided to allow Ashley Webb onto the stage? In NYC a few years back you had "the rent is too damn high" guy , but he at least had an issue. Webb was just a freak who made the whole thing a freakshow

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:10 PM (OXYE0)

295 Meatloaf looks terrible in a dress.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 17, 2026 03:10 PM (TezPK)

296
I don't think Platner said the words that he was g*y but he did say if someone ever broke into his house, he would buttf*ck them to show dominance.
All of us other men who smack people in the mouth to show dominance assumed he was admitting he was g*y.
Posted by: Nelly at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (6+ehB)



Someone breaks into my house, I'm shooting them with hot lead, not a hot load.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:10 PM (2YhKe)

297 I did not recall that,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 03:02 PM (D+BhG)
___________________________

Yeah, she did it, and a similar clown in Colorado tried too...which was interesting, because Colorado one was triggered by an organization made up of GOP anti-Trumpers filing to keep Trump off the ballot and the Dem SoS went with it.

Both SoS got their posteriors handed to them but the USSC.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 03:10 PM (dIske)

298 270 Zendaya identifies as black.? Her father is black. He mother is white.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Good enough for us.

Posted by: Barack Obama and Kamala Harris at July 17, 2026 03:10 PM (5/BQI)

299 >Newly appointed Sen. Darline Graham Nordone is reportedly considering a run for the full Senate term
Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM
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Why not?

Posted by: The ghost of Lurleen B. Wallace at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (2Ez/1)

300 >>> 231 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.
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Weren't there 3 Daryls?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

NO.
Posted by: Larry at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (vDZgA)

Biden's inflation was so bad we have an entire extra Daryl

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (uhVAy)

301 >>> Weren't there 3 Daryls?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

NO.
Posted by: Larry at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (vDZgA)


THERE ARE FOUR DARYLS

Posted by: Picard at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (3uBP9)

302 303 Both SoS got their posteriors handed to them but the USSC.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 03:10 PM (dIske)

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False.

SCOTUS has never, ever sided with Trump. Not once.

The entire judiciary only hands Trump loses.

Black pill.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (PIaQL)

303 298 >>> 231 The 2 Daryls were from...Vermont.
==

Weren't there 3 Daryls?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:00 PM (2YhKe)

NO.
Posted by: Larry at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (vDZgA)

Buncha fakes!

Posted by: Ernest P. Worrel at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (mP0Kj)

304 New England is geographically beautiful and Lefty nutz just like the West coast. There has to be a correlation there somewhere but I'll be damn if I can figure it out.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (/WQyy)

305 252 "I love it when a refrigerator light goes on, and also off."
Posted by: BELLOWS at July 17, 2026 03:03 PM (/bHKT)

How do you know it goes off?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (kAEfL)

306 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.

>>>

Get a load of this idjit.

Posted by: Chance the Gardener at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (wVcYX)

307 What a crap fest this will turn into in SC.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 03:12 PM (wOO3z)

308
I'm Larry and this is my brother Daryl and my other brother Daryl.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 03:12 PM (s9VOe)

309 I want to speak to the manager of the simulation we are in; it's terrible.

Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:12 PM (wvc0i)

310 This is what late stage TDS looks like.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 03:12 PM (2e+pG)

311 There were plenty here who didn't expect Graham's sister to run. Because they desperately want to think their Party is above that.

At any cost.

Of course she'll run.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 03:12 PM (BI5O2)

312 295 @NEWSMAX
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Newly appointed Sen. Darline Graham Nordone is reportedly considering a run for the full Senate term
Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:08 PM (ZxPkt)


She found the graft pipeline pretty damn quick.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:09 PM (2YhKe)
__________________________

LMAO, the whole point of placing her in the position was so that other parties would not have an unfair advantage in the next election for that position.

I truly, deeply, hate opportunistic politicians.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (dIske)

313 311 BELLOWS: I love when it gets light in the morning and dark at night.

Don't ask me to write her speeches for her.

Posted by: Kamala's six year old speechwriter at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (n9eFH)

314 New England is geographically beautiful and Lefty nutz just like the West coast. There has to be a correlation there somewhere but I'll be damn if I can figure it out.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:11 PM (/WQyy)



One thing I learned from binging all the Euro's in the USA videos, the Scots HATE the Brits. While in Boston, they were petitioning the people to rename it New Scotland instead.

That and they wanted to drink all the beer so England fans didn't get any.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (2YhKe)

315 How much would it kill Hillary to see AOC win the Presidency? Trump serve a third term?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (5/BQI)

316 This looks more like a skit from a Monty Python Movie ......

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (X7dyz)

317 Second Darryl Theory.

Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:14 PM (ZxPkt)

318 Of course she'll run.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Is she a confirmed bachelorette?

Posted by: MkY at July 17, 2026 03:14 PM (q6tQZ)

319 314 I want to speak to the manager of the simulation we are in; it's terrible.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:12 PM

Get in line.

Posted by: Karen at July 17, 2026 03:14 PM (2Ez/1)

320 This looks more like a skit from a Monty Python Movie ......
Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (X7dyz)
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The Silly Party.

That's on track.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:14 PM (Fi81e)

321 Second Darryl Theory.
Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:14 PM (ZxPkt)

Three Darryl Problem.

Posted by: Einstein at July 17, 2026 03:15 PM (wVcYX)

322 312 What a crap fest this will turn into in SC.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


It might be just a WEE bit premature to set our hair on fire.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 03:15 PM (Riz8t)

323 E = MDaryl2

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:15 PM (2YhKe)

324 323 Second Darryl Theory.
Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:14 PM (ZxPkt)

Other Darrel was on the grassy knoll?

Posted by: Ernest P. Worrel at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (mP0Kj)

325 That's Mary Clogginstein's brother !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (X7dyz)

326 Yeah, I don't know how to HTML Tag the little 2 for squared.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (2YhKe)

327 If Whatley (R) were to beat Cooper (D) in NC, then the GOP would hold the Senate at least. I'm beyond skeptical about the GOP holding Tillis' NC seat, though.

I think Tillis deserves some of the blame for the GOP's troubles in NC this year.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (RCjYY)

328 But a TON of King stories are EXACTLY about "High School transition to Adult". How fucked up those first 18 years are. How they don't matter in the big scheme - although those that enjoyed them the most won't let go.

Posted by: Math at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (7wXA5)

Nobody in the Midwest cares about teen angst bullshit. DID WE WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP?

(note: our football team did, indeed win State my senior year. I wasn't on the team but they were pretty good.)

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (uhVAy)

329 " How much would it kill Hillary to see AOC win the Presidency?"

Imma gonna guess it'll kill aoc even more when she loses.

Posted by: Will Robinson at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (KmvoS)

330 Maine Democrat Shenna Bellows can't answer the most basic question:

Q: Would you approve of ending daylight savings?

BELLOWS: Trump is a rapist and Nazi and threat t o our Democracy!

Posted by: Ripley at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (GUOwU)

331 THERE ARE FOUR DWIGHTS!!

Posted by: Picard Watching the Office at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (Fi81e)

332 329 312 What a crap fest this will turn into in SC.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

It might be just a WEE bit premature to set our hair on fire.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 03:15 PM (Riz8t)

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If she runs (anonymously sourced article about how she's "considering it", so grain of salt), I doubt she gets close to winning.

The Nancy Mace saga from her governor run has told me that the SC primary electorate isn't just running towards familiar names, and Graham's sister doesn't even share Graham's last name. Graham is her middle name, so name recognition will be hard to actually manifest for her.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (PIaQL)

333 In the Multiverse, there are an infinite number of Darryls.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (n9eFH)

334 The contenders are sprinting through a truncated primary process that will culminate on July 25 with a nominating convention where roughly 600 party delegates will choose the nominee.

Or as the Democrats call it: Our Democracy.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (4NO2D)

335
Nobody in the Midwest cares about teen angst bullshit. DID WE WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP?

(note: our football team did, indeed win State my senior year. I wasn't on the team but they were pretty good.)
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (uhVAy)



I scored 4 touchdowns in one game.

Posted by: Al Bundy at July 17, 2026 03:17 PM (2YhKe)

336 As the speed of time approaches zero, Darryl comes to a stop.

Posted by: Copernicuss at July 17, 2026 03:17 PM (2Ez/1)

337 No relation.

Posted by: Dr. Alfred Bellows, Cocoa Beach, FL at July 17, 2026 03:17 PM (wVcYX)

338 One thing I learned from binging all the Euro's in the USA videos, the Scots HATE the Brits. While in Boston, they were petitioning the people to rename it New Scotland instead.

That and they wanted to drink all the beer so England fans didn't get any.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:13 PM (2YhKe)

They may hate the Brits but politically it is because they are not Leftist or Pro EU ENOUGH.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:17 PM (uhVAy)

339 334 If Whatley (R) were to beat Cooper (D) in NC, then the GOP would hold the Senate at least. I'm beyond skeptical about the GOP holding Tillis' NC seat, though.

I think Tillis deserves some of the blame for the GOP's troubles in NC this year.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (RCjYY)

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Tillis sucks.

But everything is showing Cooper to be a shockingly weak candidate for someone who is supposedly a "popular former governor" which makes him as close to being an incumbent as you can be without being an incumbent.

His governorship also ended really badly with Helene fuck ups he was directly responsible for, and his policies as governor are tied intimately to the killing if Ilyana.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (PIaQL)

340 And she spells her name funny.

Posted by: Darlenes everywhere at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (2Ez/1)

341 343 As the speed of time approaches zero, Darryl comes to a stop.
Posted by: Copernicuss at July 17, 2026 03:17 PM (2Ez/1)

Schrodeingers Darryl?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (mP0Kj)

342 165 >>> When you go to a whorehouse and your options are a literal horse, a pig, a goat, and a Golden Corral 3, you take the GC3.

I spent some time trying to figure out what kind of a sex act a Golden Corral 3 would be. It must be popular if they have to number them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (Riz8t)


A "Golden Corral 3" is someone who is a 3/10 on a scale to the hottest patron of the budget buffet-style restaurant.

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (Sy6m/)

343 It would kill me to see AOC as President .

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (/WQyy)

344 Not one of his stories is about high school football. Attuned to Midwest culture, feh!
Posted by: Oldcat
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Pfft.

Posted by: Hoosier hysteria at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (XeU6L)

345 Wasn't Darryl's Schrodinger a porn movie?

Posted by: Al Bundy at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (2YhKe)

346 In the Multiverse, there are an infinite number of Darryls.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (n9eFH)
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You can't even get out of the galaxy, Roddenberry spawn!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (Fi81e)

347
origin
late 19th century: from the use of a barrel to keep a reserve supply of meat.
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (6wpGE)

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Ashley Webb thought it was literal pork belly, like she eats when she/he's swanning around town to bougie restaurants and using the lady's room to test outrage.

An easy mistake for the hormone confused wearing a dress off the rack from Target's Trans area/arena/areola.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (hzuYO)

348 I'll allow that sock screwup as I think it fits and is funny.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (2YhKe)

349 165 >>> When you go to a whorehouse and your options are a literal horse, a pig, a goat, and a Golden Corral 3, you take the GC3.

I spent some time trying to figure out what kind of a sex act a Golden Corral 3 would be. It must be popular if they have to number them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (Riz8t)

A "Golden Corral 3" is someone who is a 3/10 on a scale to the hottest patron of the budget buffet-style restaurant.
Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (Sy6m/)

. . . and somehow, the melty cheese fountain is involved.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (wVcYX)

350 If coach just would have put me in last quarter. We could've taken state.

Posted by: Uncle Rico Dynamite at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (kAEfL)

351 333 Yeah, I don't know how to HTML Tag the little 2 for squared.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (2YhKe)

You can approximate it like this:

E= mc^2

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (6wpGE)

352 It would kill me to see AOC as President .

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (/WQyy)
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Now you know how I felt to see Joe Biden take office.

I had been watching that guy on CSPAN-2 before the Clarence Thomas hearings.

What the fuck, America?!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (Fi81e)

353 349 165 >>> When you go to a whorehouse and your options are a literal horse, a pig, a goat, and a Golden Corral 3, you take the GC3.

I spent some time trying to figure out what kind of a sex act a Golden Corral 3 would be. It must be popular if they have to number them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:51 PM (Riz8t)

A "Golden Corral 3" is someone who is a 3/10 on a scale to the hottest patron of the budget buffet-style restaurant.
Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (Sy6m/)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT

Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBERGER... at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (mP0Kj)

354
Who at the TV station decided to allow Ashley Webb onto the stage? In NYC a few years back you had "the rent is too damn high" guy , but he at least had an issue. Webb was just a freak who made the whole thing a freakshow
Posted by: Smell the Glove


She just made an existing freak show freakier.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (Cqx++)

355 360
A "Golden Corral 3" is someone who is a 3/10 on a scale to the hottest patron of the budget buffet-style restaurant.
Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (Sy6m/)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT

Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBERGER... at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (mP0Kj)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (PIaQL)

356
Graham Clapner took an axe
And gave his pecker forty whacks.
When he saw what he had done
He gave his pecker forty one.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 03:21 PM (s9VOe)

357
. . . and somehow, the melty cheese fountain is involved.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (wVcYX)



When the guy that did the Chili's 'barbeque sauce' song died, they had the bbq sauce fountain and everyone was given a rib to dip when paying their respects.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:21 PM (2YhKe)

358 Someone breaks into my house, I'm shooting them with hot lead, not a hot load.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:10 PM



Are we totally ruling out despoiling the body?

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:21 PM (4NO2D)

359 ======

I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (PIaQL)



Illiterate asshole.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:21 PM (2YhKe)

360 333 Yeah, I don't know how to HTML Tag the little 2 for squared.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (2YhKe)
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It's this type of question that I use AI for...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (FZ29D)

361 Now you know how I felt to see Joe Biden take office.

I had been watching that guy on CSPAN-2 before the Clarence Thomas hearings.

What the fuck, America?!
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (Fi81e)

Well, Delaware.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (uhVAy)

362 314 I want to speak to the manager of the simulation we are in; it's terrible.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:12 PM (wvc0i)
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I've been hitting the reset button for over thirty years and it still doesn't work

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (iVhsR)

363 Eh, I don't see what would really stop her. SC voters knew and loved Lindsey Graham in spite (or perhaps because) of all his terrible flaws.

All she has to do is say "I'm just like my brother, but less effeminate. I'll carry on all his policies. And I maintain his connection with all the major donors and Republican Senate grande&ecaute;s who keep the pork flowing to you, his voters."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (BI5O2)

364 You can't even get out of the galaxy, Roddenberry spawn!!
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (Fi81e)

The Milky Way is 120,000 light years large. They couldn't get out of a small quadrant of the galaxy.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (/WQyy)

365 ----
It's this type of question that I use AI for...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (FZ29D)



I cannot. It goes against the fiber of my being at the moment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:23 PM (2YhKe)

366 Graham,
Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees to service you and begged you not to leave the Commie-crat Party because I'd go berserk?

Well, you left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see I've gone completely out of my mind

And they're coming to take me away, ha-ha
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-ha
To New England where life is beautiful all the time

And I'll be happy to see those nice transgender men in their clean white coats

And they're coming to take me away, ha-ha

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at July 17, 2026 03:23 PM (X7dyz)

367 (note: our football team did, indeed win State my senior year. I wasn't on the team but they were pretty good.)
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (uhVAy)

Seriously ? You didn't play ? But "we" won ?

Dude. You are stereotypical.
Posted by: Math at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (7wXA5)

i told you it is standard Midwest culture.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:23 PM (uhVAy)

368 "Who at the TV station decided to allow Ashley Webb onto the stage?"


He/she/it is the Dems idea of reaching out to young white men.

Posted by: Ripley at July 17, 2026 03:23 PM (GUOwU)

369 Darryl is just a patsy.

Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 03:23 PM (ZxPkt)

370 In a psych diagnosis, of which I have tried to forget all I ever learned because I hated every class required to take...

Ashley has a very "flat affect."

His is rather so flat it is if a steam roller smushed his face into hot asphalt and he somehow lived.

He has my vote! He and Mitch could sit together crossing the aisle.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 03:23 PM (hzuYO)

371 I blame Big Darryl.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)

372 "....and somehow, the melty cheese fountain is involved.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM"
+++

We're still gorging ourselves on ranch dressing.

Posted by: Men's Metric Kickball fans at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (2Ez/1)

373 Yeah, I don't know how to HTML Tag the little 2 for squared.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:16 PM (2YhKe)
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Does HTML even work on this board?

It's <sup>, btw.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (Fi81e)

374 356 165 A "Golden Corral 3" is someone who is a 3/10 on a scale to the hottest patron of the budget buffet-style restaurant.
Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (Sy6m/)

. . . and somehow, the melty cheese fountain is involved.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 17, 2026 03:19 PM (wVcYX)

ewww

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (6wpGE)

375

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)

376 Seriously ? You didn't play ? But "we" won ?



*shifty eyes*

Posted by: The Marching Band at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (4NO2D)

377 Chance the Gardener would wipe the lot of 'em. It's just a matter of being there for those Mainers.

Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (rj6Yv)

378 Oooh.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)

379 Planter also said he wanted to blow some dudes but like I'm a way that shows them who is the alpha boss of their penis

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (/bHKT)

380 ²

To display the superscript two (² in HTML, you can use the HTML entity & # 1 7 8 ;

Eliminate the spaces.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (XeU6L)

381 I'm so old I played HS football before we had state championships.

Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (wvc0i)

382 E = MDarryl2²

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (2YhKe)

383 Thanks autocorrect

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (/bHKT)

384 almost......


E=MDarryl²

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (2YhKe)

385 #Winning.

I'll never remember that, however.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (2YhKe)

386 360 349 165 A "Golden Corral 3" is someone who is a 3/10 on a scale to the hottest patron of the budget buffet-style restaurant.
Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (Sy6m/)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT
Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBERGER... at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (mP0Kj)

I'm glad he did, because it looked like it was not being understood by everyone in class.

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (6wpGE)

387 339

Nominating Graham's sister might be the only way the DEMs stand a chance to pick up this seat.

It's a terrible idea. I keep thinking back to Jean Carnahan's short career in MO. She looked terribly out of her depth in the debate. Reminded me of Adm. Stockdale saying, "Why am I here?"

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (RCjYY)

388 Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:20 PM (Fi81e)

It didn't kill me but didn't d put me in a coma.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (/WQyy)

389 I'm so old I played HS football before we had state championships.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM


Not even a Territorial Champ?

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (4NO2D)

390 I'm so old I played HS football before we had state championships.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (wvc0i)

unorganized territorial champs, 1798

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (uhVAy)

391 369 Now you know how I felt to see Joe Biden take office.

I had been watching that guy on CSPAN-2 before the Clarence Thomas hearings.

What the fuck, America?!

======

Well, first Obama destroyed the Democrat Party. Then, to make up for it, they opened the borders, opened the floodgates of government grant money to NGOs, and started fortifying elections like Chicago through the DNC in other Democrat strongholds in order to make up for it.

And then, weakened and without a message beyond, "Trump is bad because Russia" because Hillary Clinton was deeply unlikeable and awful, they had no candidate who could appeal to anyone other than Bernie Sanders, who could have gone off the reservation given the powers of the presidency (and isn't even a Democrat anyway).

So, they elevated the only possible anti-Bernie left late in the primary process, Biden, and shut down the planet's economy and stoked BLM riots for months in order to convince America to vote for Biden.

When that didn't work, even after months of mail in ballot fraud, they shut down ballot counting in six states in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall to barely give Biden a victory.

And, when you take a step back and look at it all, there's only one conclusion to draw:

It's because Trump said pussy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:26 PM (PIaQL)

392 Chance the Gardener would wipe the lot of 'em. It's just a matter of being there for those Mainers.
Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (rj6Yv)

ISWYDT

Got my eye on you for future clever comments.
*does the two finger eye point thing*

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 17, 2026 03:26 PM (wVcYX)

393 It would kill me to see AOC as President .
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:18 PM (/WQyy)

Me too.

I'd laugh til my thorax collapsed and jammed my ribs through my lungs.

My big fear is that the next Dem President won't be as funny as Biden. She'll be a riot.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 03:26 PM (BI5O2)

394 To display the superscript two (² in HTML, you can use the HTML entity & # 1 7 8 ;

Eliminate the spaces.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (XeU6L)
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Yeah, we can do HTML entities. ™

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:26 PM (Fi81e)

395 383 2²
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (2YhKe)

5!

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 03:26 PM (kAEfL)

396 It was like an SNL skit, only funny.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (hftzA)

397 I was going to say that scogg's into his cups early but, it is after noon DST.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (4NO2D)

398 Sup? Sup²?

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (Fi81e)

399
371 Eh, I don't see what would really stop her. SC voters knew and loved Lindsey Graham in spite (or perhaps because) of all his terrible flaws.

All she has to do is say "I'm just like my brother, but less effeminate. I'll carry on all his policies. And I maintain his connection with all the major donors and Republican Senate grande&ecaute;s who keep the pork flowing to you, his voters."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 03:22 PM (BI5O2)

=====

Her only hope is that her name recognition carries her over a crowded field.

Except she doesn't have name recognition.

She's not former governor Mark Sanford running in a 15 person race in SC-1.

She doesn't even share her brother's last name.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (PIaQL)

400
How much would it kill Hillary to see AOC win the Presidency?
Posted by: m

=================

I think Hillary's already been killed:

1 - Michelle Obama's popularity and wealth

2 - Sasha and Malia's slaggy bullshit and they're probably bigger "gets" than Chelsea

3 - Tim Kaine continues in the senate while she's unemployed

4 - Watching Jill Biden be such a POS fuckup

5 - She set up Kamala for years and Kamala blew it

I think she kibbitzes her t.v. all day. "I could have done it better! Shut up, you idiot! If I'd made it to the White House, NONE of these people would be losing now. I'd have built a machine that would have lasted."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (mmrXZ)

401 Not even territorial champs. Now get off my lawn.

Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (wvc0i)

402 Not even territorial champs. Now get off my lawn.
Posted by: Archer at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM


Colonial Champs?

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:28 PM (4NO2D)

403
She's not former governor Mark Sanford running in a 15 person race in SC-1.

She doesn't even share her brother's last name.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (PIaQL)


Mark Sanford ? Seriously

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:28 PM (bBCpC)

404 Hmm.

2₂

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 03:28 PM (XeU6L)

405 Somebody go wake Ace up...

Posted by: MkY at July 17, 2026 03:28 PM (q6tQZ)

406
Q: Would you approve of ending daylight savings?
Posted by: Ripley


BELLOWS: I enjoy saving daylight and I enjoy spending daylight.

I just wish that the daylight savings bank had more branches and more ATM machines in Maine's bait stores.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 03:28 PM (s9VOe)

407 371

Nominating Carnahan's widow sure backfired in MO. And THIS woman isn't even the widow!

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (RCjYY)

408 412
She's not former governor Mark Sanford running in a 15 person race in SC-1.

She doesn't even share her brother's last name.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (PIaQL)


Mark Sanford ? Seriously

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:28 PM (bBCpC)

======

Sanford probably has a better chance than Graham's sister.

But he has no chance.

Sanford will place 5th. Graham's sister will place 8th.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (PIaQL)

409 Territorial Champs > Territorial Pissings

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (2YhKe)

410 And of course one man who just showed up to say he wants to use the women's bathrooms and changing rooms.
......

BATHROOMS
Take a shit at home, asshole. Public restrooms are disgusting enough without you in them.
Freakin' perverts and their bathrooms.

Posted by: wth at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (UjdFS)

411 Nominating Carnahan's widow sure backfired in MO.

They got six years in the Senate.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (4NO2D)

412 Hmm.

2₂
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 03:28 PM (XeU6L)



You found the same code I did.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (2YhKe)

413
"1 - Michelle Obama's popularity and wealth
2 - Sasha and Malia's slaggy bullshit and they're probably bigger "gets" than Chelsea
3 - Tim Kaine continues in the senate while she's unemployed
4 - Watching Jill Biden be such a POS fuckup
5 - She set up Kamala for years and Kamala blew it"


Hey. I used to be the next President of the United States!

Posted by: AlGore at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (2Ez/1)

414 Nood. Which means a new thread.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (n9eFH)

415 NOOD

SEE EYE AY

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (vDZgA)

416 No witness the power of my sister's machine!!

Posted by: Zombie Lindsey at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (kAEfL)

417 Well Bryan DeChambeau ain't blowing this major and will make the British Open cut. But I had to stop being neutral about him because he doesn't believe we landed on the moon.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (/WQyy)

418 sid's ass is the best tasting ass

Posted by: Paul at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (jO13S)

419 Sanford probably has a better chance than Graham's sister.

But he has no chance.

Sanford will place 5th. Graham's sister will place 8th.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (PIaQL


I'm not keen on Graham's sister running but I have to think she's doing what Trump and the Governor required her to ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (bBCpC)

420 TJM is right.

I think Ralph Norman will win the nomination.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (wOO3z)

421 Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:27 PM (4NO2D)

I think he should have a new handle on every thread. Only Two so far on two different threads seems a little lame.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (D+BhG)

422 Nominating Carnahan's widow sure backfired in MO.

They got six years in the Senate.
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 03:29 PM (4NO2D)

But lost their 'swing state' status for good. Related? Maybe.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (uhVAy)

423 Planter also said he would accept man meat in his dung filter, but he will clench at a time of HIS OWN choosing as any dominator would, to let the other dude know he is the master and they are his penile slave.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (/bHKT)

424 Hillary lost to Trump. There can be nothing worse in Democrat circles.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (Q+gd/)

425 I'm not keen on Graham's sister running but I have to think she's doing what Trump and the Governor required her to ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (bBCpC)

Taking his unfilled term makes sense politically, no taking sides unilaterally. Having her backed for the future, nah, I don't like it per se.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:33 PM (uhVAy)

426 Posted by: Paul at July 17, 2026 03:31 PM (jO13S)

======

72% of Maine Democrats voted for Platner after it was revealed he sexually abused a woman and had a Nazi tattoo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 03:33 PM (PIaQL)

427 unorganized territorial champs, 1798
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:25 PM (uhVAy)

Come on ... this has to be bullshit. Surely.
Posted by: Math at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (7wXA5)

let me explain the concept of a 'joke' to ya.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:33 PM (uhVAy)

428 Still wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary run in 28

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (OXYE0)

429 Well Bryan DeChambeau ain't blowing this major and will make the British Open cut. But I had to stop being neutral about him because he doesn't believe we landed on the moon.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:30 PM (/WQyy)

I've only seen the 17th green on film...might be a setup.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (uhVAy)

430 Yes, Paul. Democrats take sexual harassment "very seriously" after very seriously trying to hush it up fails to work.

Totally. A president getting a blowjob from an intern is "JUST ABOUT SEX", you prying perverts! Like there's no power imbalance from the Most Powerful Man in the World and an unpaid wannabe.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (Fi81e)

431 Still wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary run in 28
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 03:34 PM (OXYE0)

I would. Straight women are low on the victim totem pole.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (uhVAy)

432 Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:35 PM (Fi81e

He stuck a cigar in her bajangle.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 03:36 PM (/WQyy)

433 I think I have figured it all out, y'all.

In 2020 we emerged into a new dynamic and did not know. Some of us survived normally but grumpier and more sarcastic yet more beautiful. Some became ugly trans at rapid speed.

We're watching an old series called The Last Ship on Netflix with Eric Dane (who died in real life recently). The bad people were the immunes for awhile and were taking over the world. Eric Dane was on a ship trying to find the cure during the apocalypse.

I love this show but mostly a hunky Australian guy. However, I do think we crossed the rubicon and were unaware in 2020 as nothing has been the same.

My life is mostly very good in the new paradigm. I was somehow immune but not wanting to take over the world as queen.

Others become trans or think homo intruder thoughts like Platner and Ashley Webb.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 03:40 PM (hzuYO)

434 I want to get rid of ICE. As soon as every illegal is deported or jailed and no illegals ever come into our country.
See, I can look for a middle ground.
P.S. Commies still will be dropped from helicopters but that will be a different group, state militias.

Posted by: Enola Gay Pride at July 17, 2026 03:42 PM (DIS3S)

435 403 To display the superscript two (² in HTML, you can use the HTML entity & # 1 7 8 ;

Eliminate the spaces.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 03:24 PM (XeU6L)
---
Yeah, we can do HTML entities. ™
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 03:26 PM (Fi81e)


Wait. Can I make an upside-down exclamation (#161)?

¡

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:44 PM (Sy6m/)

436 ¡Si se puede!

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:44 PM (Sy6m/)

437 Oops, need the accented i (#237).

¡Sí se puede!

Posted by: SciVo at July 17, 2026 03:48 PM (Sy6m/)

438 Planter also said he would accept man meat in his dung filter, but he will clench at a time of HIS OWN choosing as any dominator would, to let the other dude know he is the master and they are his penile slave.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 03:32 PM (/bHKT)
===

Ace level stuff there. Golf Clap.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 17, 2026 03:52 PM (xvV+O)

439 Wow

Nobody can convince me that trannys are really adored. That fat idiot *Ashley" looks like a Reddit moderator.

This isn't 2020 anymore you psycho fag

Nobody cares

Posted by: Melodicmetal at July 17, 2026 04:19 PM (61TgR)

440 I mean, say what you will about the tenants of National Socialism, at least it’s an ethos.

Posted by: Walter at July 17, 2026 08:26 PM (reCyw)

As US Forces Knock Out Iranian Power Plants, the IRGC Tells Iranians to be Like the UK and France and Turn Off the AC and Die In the Summer Heat

Trump's bombing them all the way back to modern day Europe.


Iran has told its citizens to turn off their air conditioning during peak hours as the country's power grid came under strain amid US strikes.

Tehran's energy ministry said that the power restrictions were necessary 'to help ensure a stable electricity supply in the southern provinces, which are currently facing extreme heat and attacks on electricity supply facilities.'

Temperatures in the capital were expected to hit triple digits Friday, with highs of 102F on Saturday and Sunday.

Donald Trump ordered the US military to hit Iranian bridges throughout coastal cities along the Strait of Hormuz. A report from Iranian state media claims an American missile struck Qeshm, an island which is home to a hidden 'missile city' buried underground. The US also fired on a ship which was trying to breach the blockade.

Qeshm extends out into the Strait and is, presumably, a key staging area for attacks on shipping. US forces appear to be attempting to bomb all roads and bridges to the island, to cut it off completely.


...

Just hours prior, Trump directed the US military to hit Iranian bridges throughout coastal cities along the Strait of Hormuz.

Iranian officials reported Thursday explosions in Bandar Abbas and two blasts in Bushehr, home to Iran's largest civilian nuclear plant.

The US said its forces struck Iranian command centers, air defense sites, missile and drone capabilities, and coastal surveillance facilities tied to the battle over the Strait of Hormuz.

Iran hit the power infrastructure of other Gulf states in retaliation.

John Spencer
@SpencerGuard


Updates on Iran: Following the breakdown of the ceasefire/memorandum of understanding, fighting has escalated/resumed over the past 6 days (roughly July 13--17), with the US conducting multiple nights of strikes and Iran lashes out.

US (according to USCENTCOM) has conducted strikes for six consecutive nights, using aircraft, drones, warships, and precision munitions. The stated goal is to degrade Iran's ability to threaten commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.

Key targets hit (primarily southern/coastal Iran, focused on Bandar Abbas area and nearby islands):

* Coastal defense systems, air defenses, radar/coastal surveillance sites, missile/drone capabilities, command centers, and maritime/small boat assets.

* Locations: Bandar Abbas (port/naval hub), Qeshm Island, Kish Island, Abu Musa, Bushehr province (including Jam and Kangan), Chah Bahar (Chabahar), Jask, Konarak, Sistan-Baluchestan province (including areas near Rask and Saravan), and others.

* Military Infrastructure: Bridges (at least six in Hormozgan province), a maritime control tower in Chabahar (collapsed), military logistics infrastructure, and some inland sites (e.g., airports, possible rail/power elements).

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:15 PM




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1 Good preparation for the afterlife.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:15 PM (ExV1e)

2 There you go

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (/bHKT)

3 I haz nooded.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (ExV1e)

4 And the Iranians retaliated with Taco Bell.

Innovative strategy.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (Sco7b)

5 We should send our lettuce to the IRGC.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 01:17 PM (3uBP9)

6 There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to Heaven
When she gets there, she knows if the stores are all closed
With a word, she can get what she came for
Ooh, and she's buying a stairway to Heaven

There's a sign on the wall, but she wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven

There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
And my spirit is crying for leaving
In my thoughts, I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
And the voices of those who stand looking ...

AT THE BLADE STEALING ANOTHER FIRST!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

7 I wonder if heaven has A.C. ?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (t7WpP)

8 When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher, phoning it in at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (nYjOQ)

9 6 There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
...
AT THE BLADE STEALING ANOTHER FIRST!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:18 PM (iFTx/)


All that effort, for sixth.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (ExV1e)

10 Trump's bombing them all the way back to modern day Europe.

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"WAR CRIMINAL!" charges coming in 5 .. 4 .. 3 ... AKA another day ending in "day."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (KBK+H)

11 The Iranians are bombing Taco Bell? Oh Noes!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (tWxgu)

12 The Saif Alderai video made me laugh. It sounds like a bunch of kids are watching the explosion and then saying "Wow!".

I don't know if Persian has a word for "awesome", but if they did, they'd be saying it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:20 PM (Riz8t)

13
Can we all pitch in to get Elric and Sponge a motel room somewhere?

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:20 PM (Y8DZL)

14 Finally!! Bridge and power plant days… what I’ve been waiting for. Don’t stop

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:20 PM (yz/88)

15 "Iran is imploding, the regime is broke, and their war machine is running on empty. Workers aren't getting paid, soldiers are deserting, and military camps are literally facing food shortages. Their entire proxy network is crumbling."

I've heard this 100x over the last few months. I hope this time it's based on real facts and not wishcasters pulling optimism out of their assholes.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:21 PM (iFTx/)

16 As US Forces Knock Out Iranian Power Plants, the IRGC Tells Iranians to be Like the UK and France and Turn Off the AC and Die In the Summer Heat

See? With Trump's influence, they're becoming more westernized already!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 01:21 PM (kgE5c)

17 Sad!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 01:21 PM (amcLV)

18 Thank you, good night, and Lettuce Roll

Posted by: Zombie Peter Jennings at July 17, 2026 01:21 PM (3uBP9)

19 > There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold

You just reminded me of a pet peeve of mine. The phrase, "All that glitters is not gold." I hate it so much. Gold glitters. It's false. More formally, if you take the set of all things that glitter, nothing within that set is gold. Obviously that's not true.

What you mean to say is, "Not all that glitters is gold." Meaning, of the set of all things that glitter, not everything in that set is gold. That is correct.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (mkw2N)

20 Trump's bombing them all the way back to modern day Europe.
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LOL! Classic ace.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (Fi81e)

21 Why is Iran hitting other gulf states in retaliation? It doesn't seem like the best plan for them to hit their Muslim neighbors?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (Bw1/o)

22 I wonder if heaven has A.C. ?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (t7WpP)

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They should be more worried about hell not having A.C.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (KBK+H)

23 There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
...
AT THE BLADE STEALING ANOTHER FIRST!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

All that effort, for sixth.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (ExV1e)
______

Takes too much time to do the cut and paste and formatting, alas

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

24 Afternoon.

Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (dpXJq)

25 Stairway to Heaven… great song but I always thought Robert Plant was intentionally enunciating in strange ways on the song to make the lyrics hard to understand. Like Manfred Mann’s Earth Band on Blinded by the Light…. I mean what in the world is a coliappi??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (yz/88)

26 21 Why is Iran hitting other gulf states in retaliation? It doesn't seem like the best plan for them to hit their Muslim neighbors?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
=======
For hosting US forces. USAF in Qatar, Navy and others in Bahrain, and I think US Army in Kuwait. UAE has some US forces there as well.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (E4rtv)

27 It's about time. Put a few MOABs onto Karg Island.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (g8Ew8)

28 In heaven, there is no beer.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (Fi81e)

29 21 Why is Iran hitting other gulf states in retaliation? It doesn't seem like the best plan for them to hit their Muslim neighbors?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (Bw1/o)


Supposedly they are going for American bases in these Countries

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:24 PM (FtULh)

30 What you mean to say is, "Not all that glitters is gold." Meaning, of the set of all things that glitter, not everything in that set is gold. That is correct.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (mkw2N)

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Kommie-la has a Venn Diagram for that.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 01:24 PM (KBK+H)

31 Love listening to the Iranian people watching the explosions and hoping the mullahs are about to fall

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:24 PM (OXYE0)

32 How you like them TACOs?

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:24 PM (uzmqU)

33 Zorro was Bandar Abbas best movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:24 PM (ndZc7)

34 Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (E4rtv)

Thanks. I'm sure that will get their neighbors on the side of Iran./s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 01:25 PM (Bw1/o)

35 The Saif Alderai video sounds amazingly like the Ewoks in the Star Wars movie when they met C3PO the first time.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 01:25 PM (3Ope8)

36 AT THE BLADE STEALING ANOTHER FIRST!
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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And like the song you cite, not quite ready for greatness.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:25 PM (E4rtv)

37 I've heard this 100x over the last few months. I hope this time it's based on real facts and not wishcasters pulling optimism out of their assholes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:21 PM (iFTx/)


Maybe civilizations take longer to crumble than an episode of Matlock.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:25 PM (ExV1e)

38 You just reminded me of a pet peeve of mine. The phrase, "All that glitters is not gold." I hate it so much. Gold glitters. It's false. More formally, if you take the set of all things that glitter, nothing within that set is gold. Obviously that's not true.

What you mean to say is, "Not all that glitters is gold." Meaning, of the set of all things that glitter, not everything in that set is gold. That is correct.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (mkw2N)

You just gave a non-mathematical description of what mathematicians refer to as naive set theory

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:25 PM (yz/88)

39 Good.

More.

Gooder and harderer...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 01:25 PM (FZ29D)

40 NO STAIRWAY

Posted by: toby928(c) points at the sign at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (4NO2D)

41 What you mean to say is, "Not all that glitters is gold." Meaning, of the set of all things that glitter, not everything in that set is gold. That is correct.

Posted by: bonhomme

Don Lemon glitters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (ndZc7)

42 I mean what in the world is a coliappi??

Caliope (or Calliope) most famously refers to the Muse of epic poetry in Greek mythology, known for her beautiful voice. The name is also used for a loud, steam-powered keyboard instrument often heard at carnivals, a European retail fashion brand, and several technical, environmental, or media-related projects.

Glad I could help.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (Riz8t)

43 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (2YhKe)

44 Trump's bombing them all the way back to modern day Europe.



Sick. Burn.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (2YhKe)

45 How you like them TACOs?
Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:24 PM (uzmqU)


Exploding bridges >> explosive diarrhea.

Posted by: far cry at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (+IsEU)

46 Stairway to Heaven… great song but I always thought Robert Plant was intentionally enunciating in strange ways on the song to make the lyrics hard to understand.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (yz/8
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It's for the backwards masking...
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Like Manfred Mann’s Earth Band on Blinded by the Light…. I mean what in the world is a coliappi??
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/calliope

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (Fi81e)

47 Thanks for the earworm.
Now where is that ice pick?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (YHaz5)

48 Perhaps the sand people will rise up and topple the ragheads governing them.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 01:27 PM (W2Pud)

49 Glad I could help.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (Riz8t)

Archimedes, you just ruined my enjoyment of Blinded by the Light (whiny voice)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:27 PM (yz/88)

50 Why is Iran hitting other gulf states in retaliation? It doesn't seem like the best plan for them to hit their Muslim neighbors?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (Bw1/o)


Sunni vs. Shia is enough of an excuse.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 01:27 PM (tWxgu)

51 34 Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (E4rtv)

Thanks. I'm sure that will get their neighbors on the side of Iran./s
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I think the Gulf emirates, Jordan, Iraq, Oman, and Saudi Arabia have decided themselves that the mullahs and IRGC must go. But the trick is that they want us to do it for them. But the Arab street is not supporting the Persians for ethnic and religious reasons (Shi'a v Sunni).

And Iran's proxies which are Shi'a but Arabs are being neutered one by one.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:28 PM (E4rtv)

52 AT THE BLADE STEALING ANOTHER FIRST!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

All that effort, for sixth.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM


to be a rock, and not to roll...

Posted by: toby928(c) points at the sign at July 17, 2026 01:28 PM (4NO2D)

53
FAFO

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 01:28 PM (XeU6L)

54 >>> What you mean to say is, "Not all that glitters is gold." Meaning, of the set of all things that glitter, not everything in that set is gold. That is correct.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (mkw2N)

If there is not a bustle in your hedge row, there are no spring cleans for the may queen.

.no.

If there is not a spring clean for the may queen you can be assured there was not a bustle in your hedge row.

...no that's not it either.

You cannot have a spring clean unless...

For every bustle there must be..

Ah to hell with it! GUITAR SOLO!!!

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (3uBP9)

55 Can we all pitch in to get Elric and Sponge a motel room somewhere?
Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:20 PM (Y8DZL)


I got $5.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (/HDaX)

56 Thanks for the earworm.
Now where is that ice pick?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (YHaz5)
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I still like early Springsteen. Born in the USA and following is what I don't care that much about. Or perhaps Nebraska on.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (Fi81e)

57 Various sites are reporting that Trump is "surging" refueling planes to Israel (in addition to the ones already parked there). This weekend is going to be interesting.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (GD0B3)

58 Like Manfred Mann’s Earth Band on Blinded by the Light…. I mean what in the world is a coliappi??
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/calliope
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (Fi81e)

It helps with douches in the night.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (g8Ew8)

59 Sunni vs. Shia is enough of an excuse.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 01:27 PM (tWxgu)


"Sunni vs. Shia" should be the name of a film about a contest between an aging pron star and a nutcase actor.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (ExV1e)

60 Iran retaliating against gulf neighbors is equivalent to the little runt who gets beat up by captain of the football team so he goes and pulls the ponytails of 6th grade girls…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (yz/88)

61 Zorro was Bandar Abbas best movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:24 PM (ndZc7)
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Antonio Banderas, not Bandar Abbas!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (amcLV)

62 "Bombing them back to modern day Europe"
Mamdani - "You left me out of this conversation because you're racist?"

Posted by: Greg Alan at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (4JrN8)

63 Why is Iran hitting other gulf states in retaliation? It doesn't seem like the best plan for them to hit their Muslim neighbors?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

When all you have is Islam, every problem looks like an infidel.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (ndZc7)

64 AT THE BLADE STEALING ANOTHER FIRST!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

All that effort, for sixth.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM

to be a rock, and not to roll...


That's what you do when your shadow is taller than your soul.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (Riz8t)

65 >>I still like early Springsteen.


Mr State Trooper is one of the worst songs ever recorded.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (uzmqU)

66 NO STAIRWAY
Posted by: toby928(c) points at the sign at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (4NO2D)


Denied!

I always wondered why it never sounded like Wayne was playing Stairway. Today AI tells me:

While the original theatrical release included the recognizable opening notes, copyright restrictions forced the studio to replace the riff with generic, unrecognizable guitar strumming for all subsequent home video, television, and foreign releases.

Posted by: far cry at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (+IsEU)

67 I got $5.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (/HDaX)

And a first! To donate.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (YHaz5)

68 If there is not a bustle in your hedge row,
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I don't know, haven't checked by hedge row in a while.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (Fi81e)

69 Like Manfred Mann’s Earth Band on Blinded by the Light…. I mean what in the world is a coliappi??
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/calliope
Posted by: Axeman

Bruce Springstain's mumbling lyrics period where he tried to emulate Bob Dylan with less clever lyrics. His original take on Blinded by the Light is much inferior to Manfred Mann's later hit version.

Same with Fire and the Pointer Sisters or Because the Night with Patti Smyth. All of these were better singers than him and all of those songs did better with those groups covering them than his original version.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (E4rtv)

70 It helps with douches in the night.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (g8Ew

I don’t even wanna know how one revs up a douche….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (yz/88)

71 Can we all pitch in to get Elric and Sponge a motel room somewhere?
Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:20 PM (Y8DZL)




WTF did I do to deserve that?

He stole my schtick. I had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (2YhKe)

72 Iran bombed Qatar and Saudi...and then they showed up to funeral of Dear Charcoal to pay respects.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (GD0B3)

73 Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (mkw2N)

I hate to nitpick a good nitpick but I feel it's pretty clear the not is about all, not any.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:31 PM (/bHKT)

74 It helps with douches in the night.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2026 01:29 PM (g8Ew

Damn.. Now I have that song in my brain

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:31 PM (FtULh)

75 Don Lemon glitters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (ndZc7)

------------

I've heard that his fingers often glitter with some substance.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 01:31 PM (KBK+H)

76 We also took out another maritime control tower. I think this one was at the Chah Bahar Shahid Kalantari Port, on the Gulf of Oman.

It was being used to target commercial vessels.

And a lot (more) IRGC infrastructure is now smoking ruins.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 01:31 PM (jehhT)

77 >>I still like early Springsteen.


Mr State Trooper is one of the worst songs ever recorded.
Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (uzmqU)
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Yeah. I said I wasn't crazy about Nebraska.

But the artsy people were impressed.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:31 PM (Fi81e)

78 "... and their war machine is running on empty..."

Why is it running at all?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 17, 2026 01:32 PM (2Ez/1)

79 Yeah. I said I wasn't crazy about Nebraska.

But the artsy people were impressed.
Posted by: Axeman
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Springstain was emulating Woody Guthrie who was a Commie pig that the music press adored.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:32 PM (E4rtv)

80 This back and forth will continue UNLESS the League of Arab States declares war on Iran.

They have enough wealth and firepower to put troops on the ground inside Iran to help an insurrection...

If we tried that, we would make a whole bunch of new enemies... but if THEY do it? If THEY fix their own regional problem? It may just hold.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 01:32 PM (mP0Kj)

81 I said I wasn't crazy about Nebraska.

But the artsy people were impressed.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:31 PM (Fi81e)


Artsy people are never impressed by Nebraska. No 3am Thai food and hardly any gay bathouses.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (ExV1e)

82 Despite the Dems screeching, no one in the world is really paying attention to Iran anymore.

How can you tell?
Oil futures are at $81; peak in April was $108

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (3cUTc)

83 "Blinded by the light" is easily in my top 20 of most hated songs, though nothing could ever unseat John Lennon's "Imagine" as No. 1.

Posted by: PabloD at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (QDulm)

84 Racked up like a douche, another boner in the night.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (amcLV)

85 WTF did I do to deserve that?

He stole my schtick. I had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (2YhKe)

My schtick is stealing schticks 😁

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (yz/88)

86 Wrapped up like a douche in your hedgerow
Because you don't know

Oh yeah. Ice pick, where is that thing?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (YHaz5)

87 We need new tropes.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (4NO2D)

88 Zorro the Gay Blade : slashes the door. Says to farmer "do you know what that is ?
Farmer : si, senor , it's a 2
Zorro: no it's a Z
Farmer : no , senor, that's a 2
Zorro, shakes head "peasant" , rides away

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (OXYE0)

89 >>"Blinded by the light" is easily in my top 20 of most hated songs, though nothing could ever unseat John Lennon's "Imagine" as No. 1.


Mark David Chapman Saved Us, All.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (uzmqU)

90 Oh yeah. Ice pick, where is that thing?
Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM


Lie back and think of Hendrix.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (4NO2D)

91 This back and forth will continue UNLESS the League of Arab States declares war on Iran.

They have enough wealth and firepower to put troops on the ground inside Iran to help an insurrection...


Nope. That would do nothing but provide an center of resistance for the IRGC. SA and the US do not need boots on the ground. Just keep doing what we're doing.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (Riz8t)

92 He stole my schtick. I had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (2YhKe)
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Why should you have to change your schtick when he's the one who sucks!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (Fi81e)

93 They have enough wealth and firepower to put troops on the ground inside Iran to help an insurrection...

Has an Arab army fought anyone in the past 1000 years or so other than getting their asses kicked by Israel?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (ExV1e)

94
The DNC's secrecy concerns might be in regard to their dark horse '28 Presidential Contender being the 12th Imam.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (Y8DZL)

95 Stairway to Heaven… great song but I always thought Robert Plant was intentionally enunciating in strange ways on the song to make the lyrics hard to understand. Like Manfred Mann’s Earth Band on Blinded by the Light…. I mean what in the world is a coliappi??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM (yz/8
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Geoff Tate has entered the chat ....

Plant probably recorded the song high as fuck.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

96 Springstain was emulating Woody Guthrie who was a Commie pig that the music press adored.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:32 PM (E4rtv)
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I thought he was attempting to imitate Roy Orbison.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (amcLV)

97 Sure seems that at some point (soon?) the IRGC will run out of the ability to send ballistic missiles and suicide drones to attack their neighbors. Iran is a big place, and they spent years (decades?) preparing caves and tunnels full of missiles and boats (I guess), but we must be watching each time they come out of their holes with another launch, and we can bomb at least the entrances, if not the cave itself?

Posted by: illiniwek at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (vbXSk)

98 Yeah WTF does it mean to have a bustle in your hedgerow??? Whatever it’s just a sprinkling for the bake queen…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (yz/88)

99 In before the guy that overshares.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (4NO2D)

100 @70 whig, The Band's version of Atlantic City blows away Springsteen's

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (OXYE0)

101 We need new tropes.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (4NO2D)

At one time I was responsible for easily half a dozen memes here but many have fallen by the wayside. Also I haven't done any new ones in some time which means I have gotten less funny or this place has gotten more funny. Or we have all gotten less funny.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (/bHKT)

102 Damn it! It's supposed to be Heaven! I demand a escalator!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (ndZc7)

103 "No 3am Thai food and hardly any gay bathouses."
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But more sheep than people.

Posted by: Nebraska Board of Tourism at July 17, 2026 01:36 PM (2Ez/1)

104 >>Springstain was emulating Woody Guthrie who was a Commie pig that the music press adored.


Commie Fag, yes.

But, 'Mermaid Ave' - Wilco w/Billy Bragg is a helluva album.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:36 PM (uzmqU)

105 Iceberg leaves in flight, afternoon delight

Posted by: I got your ear worm right here pal at July 17, 2026 01:36 PM (3uBP9)

106 "Blinded by the light" is easily in my top 20 of most hated songs, though nothing could ever unseat John Lennon's "Imagine" as No. 1.

Posted by: PabloD at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (QDulm)
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Imagine is kinda tied with Watching the Wheels with me.

I mean imagine is more intrusively awful and sucks as a concept. But Watching the Wheels is pretty bad too.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:36 PM (Fi81e)

107 Whatever it’s just a sprinkling for the bake queen…

Yeah, that's what I though the lyric was until just a few years ago.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (Riz8t)

108 Yeah. I said I wasn't crazy about Nebraska.
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Great...now you've done it. Bob Seger playing in my head.

'On a long and lonesome highway, east of Omaha
You can listen to the engine moanin' out his one note song...'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

109 >>>military camps are literally facing food shortages

yikes

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (6wpGE)

110 Springstain was emulating Woody Guthrie who was a Commie pig that the music press adored.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:32 PM (E4rtv)
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I thought he was attempting to imitate Roy Orbison.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea

I thought Chairman Mao.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (ndZc7)

111 The US also fired on a ship which was trying to breach the blockade.

Its telling that shippers are more afraid of Iranian drones and speedboats than they are of the US Military.

Iran threatens to shut down the Strait? Terror on the High Seas!

US determines to blockade ships serving Iran? We can run it!

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (9s47C)

112 I don’t even wanna know how one revs up a douche….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (yz/8

Shaken, not stirred.

Posted by: Nelly at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (6+ehB)

113 I don't know if Persian has a word for "awesome", but if they did, they'd be saying it.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:20 PM (Riz8t)


SHABASH = well done, bravo or good job.

Posted by: Homer at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (nvKZ7)

114
My schtick is stealing schticks 😁
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM



You will forever be an Amy Schumer sock.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (2YhKe)

115 @106 definitely. Saw Jeff Tweedy play a show with just a drummer. Played a lot off Mermaid Ave. Great show

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (OXYE0)

116 WTF did I do to deserve that?

He stole my schtick. I had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Sponge

My bad. I was just wondering who'd come first.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:37 PM (Y8DZL)

117 Is making life difficult for civilians really the best idea if the goal is regime change?

The IRGC brass is going to have backup generators.

Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (FUjuU)

118 Pretty much anything done by Paul McCartney after the Beatles breakup sucks bigly.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (Riz8t)

119 There should be ships pulling up full of small arms and loaded magazines. Taught by Green Berets on site.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 01:28 PM (AoR1V)

that didn't work well for us long term in Afghanistan.

Initially it worked... we armed a bunch of disparate groups, but we could not control them once armed... because the Operators on the ground were constantly overruled by folks sitting behind desks in DC.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (mP0Kj)

120 Damn it! It's supposed to be Heaven! I demand a escalator!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (ndZc7)
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There are probably escalators in Heaven. Because an escalator can never be temporarily broken, it can only be temporarily stairs. ("Pardon the convenience")

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (Fi81e)

121 Sorry, you'll have to put your memes somewhere else. I'm full up.

Posted by: The wayside at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (2Ez/1)

122 But Watching the Wheels is pretty bad too.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:36 PM (Fi81e)

In the sky? turning?
Shit.

My kingdom for an ice pick!

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (YHaz5)

123 Why should you have to change your schtick when he's the one who sucks!
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (Fi81e)



I haven't. I will continue beating that dead horse until it comes back to life, dies and the beatings continue.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (2YhKe)

124 Born In the USA was one of those moments I realized my Mom and Dad were pretty fucking dumb.

Because they'd get all tuned in ... but listen to the song. The Boss is singing about how much it sucks here.

Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (AoR1V)

I promise not to make any comments about honeycrisps or red delicious. That up you have teed is pure torture.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (/bHKT)

125 >> Pretty much anything done by Paul McCartney after the Beatles breakup sucks bigly.


Everything.

He even ruined 'Thriller'.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (uzmqU)

126 The IRGC brass is going to have backup generators.

And if they have no gas?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (Riz8t)

127 Pretty much anything done by Paul McCartney after the Beatles breakup sucks bigly.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (Riz8t)
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After Beatles, for me:

George > Paul > John

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (Fi81e)

128 Some Moron posted this Japgirl band link a while back and it is beyond an earworm for me. It's a brain worm, even though I understand not a word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu2z4Uf9Tgc

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (4NO2D)

129 Born In the USA was one of those moments I realized my Mom and Dad were pretty fucking dumb.

Because they'd get all tuned in ... but listen to the song. The Boss is singing about how much it sucks here.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (AoR1V)

Artists don't control the interpretation once it leaves they yap. They might wish they did, but they don't.

If your parents liked it because it made them feel patriotic, well, then it is a patriotic song.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (uhVAy)

130 The bathroom's on the right.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (wOO3z)

131 This back and forth will continue UNLESS the League of Arab States declares war on Iran.

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Is this really necessary to solve the Blade/Sponge spat?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:40 PM (ndZc7)

132 There's a movie coming up about Wat Tyler. Schola Gladiatoria worries there won't be enough LONG BOWS
youtu.be/wNha4eMd-Sw

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 01:40 PM (gKWVE)

133 > If there is not a spring clean for the may queen you can be assured there was not a bustle in your hedge row.

But which cup has the pellet with the poison?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 17, 2026 01:40 PM (mkw2N)

134 I'm looking for info on that mural they just painted...is the building it's on still standing? Gosh I hope not.

Posted by: connected and litigious at July 17, 2026 01:40 PM (cS1cw)

135 Is this really necessary to solve the Blade/Sponge spat?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:40 PM (ndZc7)
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Wait. Spats? With or without pants?

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:40 PM (Fi81e)

136 We are off the headliner topic of

As US Forces Knock Out Iranian Power Plants, the IRGC Tells Iranians to be Like the UK and France and Turn Off the AC and Die In the Summer Heat

and onto misheard song lyrics as early as comment #50?

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (6wpGE)

137 Damn it! It's supposed to be Heaven! I demand a escalator!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (ndZc7)
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There are probably escalators in Heaven. Because an escalator can never be temporarily broken, it can only be temporarily stairs. ("Pardon the convenience")
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (Fi81e)

Only for sufficiently minor breakdowns.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (uhVAy)

138 The IRGC brass is going to have backup generators.

And if they have no gas?
Posted by: Archimedes

==

I just don't see any scenario where the people in charge don't have access to what they want.

It was the same in the Soviet Union or Cuba. The Politurbo lved luxurious lives despite all the sanctions.

I'd honestly rather the US just go in there with Special Forces and start taking out their leadership.

Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (FUjuU)

139 Born In the USA was one of those moments I realized my Mom and Dad were pretty fucking dumb.

Because they'd get all tuned in ... but listen to the song. The Boss is singing about how much it sucks here.
Posted by: Blues Junior
_________

New Jersey considered making Born to Run the official state song. "It's a death trap, a suicide rap."

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (XvL8K)

140 We are off the headliner topic of

As US Forces Knock Out Iranian Power Plants, the IRGC Tells Iranians to be Like the UK and France and Turn Off the AC and Die In the Summer Heat

and onto misheard song lyrics as early as comment #50?
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (6wpGE)

The 100 rule is only for non ACE posts. This is known.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (uhVAy)

141 If there is not a spring clean for the may queen you can be assured there was not a bustle in your hedge row.

But which cup has the pellet with the poison?


You crossed the streams! Never cross the streams.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:42 PM (Riz8t)

142 Pardon me...

Posted by: While I kiss this guy at July 17, 2026 01:42 PM (2Ez/1)

143 We need to hit one of their dams with dam buster bouncing barrels and flood a strategic area reliant upon power generation supplying military facilities. Take out their power, take out their water, flood the valley and set them back 10 years.

Pick one. For starters.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 01:42 PM (sYM3s)

144 You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 17, 2026 01:42 PM (2Ez/1)

145 'Scuse me while I kiss this guy!

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Fi81e)

146 Like Manfred Mann’s Earth Band on Blinded by the Light…. I mean what in the world is a coliappi??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:23 PM

A coliappi gets wrapped up in a douche.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (YSQQv)

147 One views the videos and the landscape is simply brown dust. What an awful place to live. No wonder they're crazy.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (rii+a)

148 This has absolutely nothing to do with Iran but "they" are sure trying to push that Odyssey movie...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (FtULh)

149 I just don't see any scenario where the people in charge don't have access to what they want.


At the end, the Emperor couldn't even scrape up a car that ran on gas. Patience, grasshopper, patience.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Riz8t)

150 It was the same in the Soviet Union or Cuba. The Politurbo lved luxurious lives despite all the sanctions.

I'd honestly rather the US just go in there with Special Forces and start taking out their leadership.
Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (FUjuU)

Sanctions by nature don't hit the elite directly.

And killing the leadership is what we have been doing all along. Even blowing up factories has been secondary.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (uhVAy)

151 Hold me closer, Tony Danza!

Posted by: Bernie Taupin at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (Fi81e)

152 A coliappi gets wrapped up in a douche.
Posted by: JuJuBee at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM



the ruler in the night

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (4NO2D)

153 We're not too sophisticated here. We play shtick ball.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (ndZc7)

154 They can shop, drink and fornicate. Right?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 17, 2026 01:43 PM (YlWIZ)

155 Generator have heat signatures. "Achmed, cut the power!"

Posted by: connected and litigious at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (cS1cw)

156 140 We are off the headliner topic of
Posted by: m

Attention Deficit Disorder is how the hoarde rolls.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (Y8DZL)

157 Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on

Get it?

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (/bHKT)

158 How can you tell?
Oil futures are at $81; peak in April was $108
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2026 01:33 PM (3cUTc)
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Another key tell is that this thread has quickly morphed into a music thread....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (FZ29D)

159 I am proud the people of Iran are conserving electricity to slow the process of "GLOBAL WARMING" ...

Posted by: Al Gore at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (1Fh1q)

160 144 We are off the headliner topic of

As US Forces Knock Out Iranian Power Plants, the IRGC Tells Iranians to be Like the UK and France and Turn Off the AC and Die In the Summer Heat

and onto misheard song lyrics as early as comment #50?
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (6wpGE)

The 100 rule is only for non ACE posts. This is known.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (uhVAy)

I wasn't raising rules. Just surprised we moved away so quickly from The Big News.

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (6wpGE)

161 My son is in IT Cloud services and really hates dot Indians.

He sent me this link

https://x.com/DryMouthGroyper/status/2077645182304965040

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (4NO2D)

162 The fireworks I have waited for.

Thankful that Tousi and wife are moving to Florida!

I don't want anyone to mention the MOU again.

MOO aka the Massive Obliteration Oopsie is preferred after the FAFO.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (hzuYO)

163 I'd honestly rather the US just go in there with Special Forces and start taking out their leadership.
Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (FUjuU)


You and about 12 other people.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (ExV1e)

164 About time for the Egyptians and the Kurds to redirect the IRGC, a tad or so.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (NFX2v)

165 141 Damn it! It's supposed to be Heaven! I demand a escalator!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (ndZc7)
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There are probably escalators in Heaven. Because an escalator can never be temporarily broken, it can only be temporarily stairs. ("Pardon the convenience")
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (Fi81e)

Only for sufficiently minor breakdowns.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (uhVAy)

Nah, the escalator? be careful...

there is one there with a sign that points up, 'To Heaven'... but once you get on you realize it runs backwards, and never stops...

It's called purgatory.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (mP0Kj)

166 The 100 rule is only for non ACE posts. This is known.

==

What is know is that "the 100 rule" applies only to one thread. The art thread.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (GD0B3)

167
I wasn't raising rules. Just surprised we moved away so quickly from The Big News.
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (6wpGE)

Yeah we're good at that.. Something comes in ones head and out it comes...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (FtULh)

168 a colappi, a ruler, and a douche.

The Earth Band had some good shit back in the day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 01:46 PM (wOO3z)

169 They took the last train for the coast.

Posted by: F, S & HG at July 17, 2026 01:46 PM (2Ez/1)

170 Hey, IRGC. Charles Manson wants his foreign policy back.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 17, 2026 01:46 PM (YlWIZ)

171 If your parents liked it because it made them feel patriotic, well, then it is a patriotic song.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (uhVAy)

And here we go ...

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
End up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just to cover it up now
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 01:40 PM (AoR1V)

Good thing he mumbles, right?

Besides its something in every generation to bitch about the older one, and the younger one. You can read it in Babylonian clay tablets.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:47 PM (uhVAy)

172 We are off the headliner topic
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This is Getting Hit on the Head lessons!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:47 PM (Fi81e)

173 I wasn't raising rules. Just surprised we moved away so quickly from The Big News.
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (6wpGE)

What big news?

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:47 PM (YHaz5)

174 End up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just to cover it up now
Posted by: Blues Junior

Life's been almost as hard on Bruce as on Mooch.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:47 PM (ndZc7)

175 Parents should condition their children to fear and respect the escalator.

Posted by: Brodie at July 17, 2026 01:47 PM (+IsEU)

176 Just surprised we moved away so quickly from The Big News.
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:44 PM (6wpGE)


Are you suggesting that you have the naive belief that people read the actual post?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:47 PM (ExV1e)

177 The fact that there is a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

178 BUT BUT BUT....I was assured America was running out of missiles and munitions by very smart people!

Posted by: Max Power at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (SwyyQ)

179 Ask your periodontist if Coliappi is right for you.

Posted by: Big Fat Fizer at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (2Ez/1)

180 Boy928 sends further

Indians are quite horrifying

If you've never played Pindia, you should. Go on Google Maps, grab the little streetview man and drop him randomly anywhere in India. Look around for piles of trash. Count how many times it takes before you land and there's signs of civilization and no piles of trash. Golf-style scoring where lower scores are higher.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (4NO2D)

181 And that's the last two verses. Yes, my parents were Idiots for getting excited about this. Its a protest song.

I'm sure many here also got excited about it. Never listened to a single fucking word.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 01:46 PM (AoR1V)

What's he protesting?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (uhVAy)

182 FAFO
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

FAFO MOFOS

Posted by: Miklos revises and extends at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (bziMQ)

183 A reminder that, when the war started, the Democrats have been flopping back and forth between "Illegal War! Warmonger! Impeach!" and "TACO! Trump Always Chickens Out!".

Few dems in power ever mention the threat of nuclear material. Of which the Iranians themselves stupidly claimed to have as part of their strong-horse dick-waving. Nor of the long-range missiles they proved to have in the early days of the war; the ones they weren't supposed to have or develop.

But they sure as hell were going to grandstand against the war. And they would whip their caucas to deny continuing authorization of the war, under that whole War Powers act.

So, Trump pushes for the MOU and a peace agreement. Open the straight. No more attacking ships. We stop bombing Iran. And with that, the 60-day window of the act gets thrown out.

Yeah, Iran's leaders are a bunch of filthy liars; taqiyya and all that.

But on the other hand, our army could taqiyya too. Restock our own bombs and missiles. Track what the hell they're doing, where all the heat signatures suddenly begin to congregate during the "peace" time. And when Iran could no longer help itself, we now have another 60 days to pound them.

Posted by: Another Anon at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (4h45B)

184 Boy928 sends further

Indians are quite horrifying

If you've never played Pindia, you should. Go on Google Maps, grab the little streetview man and drop him randomly anywhere in India. Look around for piles of trash. Count how many times it takes before you land and there's signs of civilization and no piles of trash. Golf-style scoring where lower scores are higher.
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (4NO2D)

Asmongold was doing that

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (uhVAy)

185 “Qeshm extends out into the Strait and is, presumably, a key staging area for attacks on shipping. US forces appear to be attempting to bomb all roads and bridges to the island, to cut it off completely.”

Interesting. I’ve been writing that we needed to focus a lot of attention on Qeshm for 2 or 3 months now. It is in a much more strategic position than Kharg.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (wLnmp)

186 For sale 72-hour deodorant on E-Bay.

I will only charge $100 USD per stick and free shipping to your nearest destroyed Post Office ........

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (xl8DV)

187 FAFO MOFOS
Posted by: Miklos revises and extends at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (bziMQ)
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FAFO AF.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (Fi81e)

188 >>I'm sure many here also got excited about it. Never listened to a single fucking word.


It's a good thing we have people like you to tell us what words mean.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (uzmqU)

189 175 They took the last train for the coast.
Posted by: F, S & HG at July 17, 2026 01:46 PM (2Ez/1)

It's CLARKESVILLE!

Posted by: Mike Nesmith at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (mP0Kj)

190 What's he protesting?

Whattya got?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (Riz8t)

191 We need to hit one of their dams with dam buster bouncing barrels and flood a strategic area reliant upon power generation supplying military facilities. Take out their power, take out their water, flood the valley and set them back 10 years.

Pick one. For starters.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone


Three Gorges Dam.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (v3afF)

192 The fact that there is a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic ....
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM


Don't pay the ferryman, don't even fix a price
Don't pay the ferryman, 'til he gets you to the other side

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (4NO2D)

193 Doowa, diddy , diddy ,dum, diddy do
Now those lyrics make some sense

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (OXYE0)

194 Boy928 sends further

Indians are quite horrifying

If you've never played Pindia, you should. Go on Google Maps, grab the little streetview man and drop him randomly anywhere in India. Look around for piles of trash. Count how many times it takes before you land and there's signs of civilization and no piles of trash. Golf-style scoring where lower scores are higher.
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (4NO2D)

Asmongold was doing that
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (uhVAy)

PS this is a bit unfair because long before present I noticed that train travel takes you through the crummiest and back side of everything where messes are shoveled.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (uhVAy)

195 185 BUT BUT BUT....I was assured America was running out of missiles and munitions by very smart people!
Posted by: Max Power

We'll beg them from the Ukraine soon enough.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (NFX2v)

196 I will not interrupt this thread for a pound.

Posted by: Mr. Badger at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (Fi81e)

197 Iran is learning about consequences. Good. Whe will China learn?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (LnMJr)

198 I’ve been writing that we needed to focus a lot of attention on Qeshm for 2 or 3 months now. It is in a much more strategic position than Kharg.

Not sure I agree, but regardless, embrace the healing power of "and".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (Riz8t)

199 The bombing may be prep for invasion of Qeshm (is that some sort of dirty word?).

I certainly do not want a reply of Iwo Jima, but I know the Marines are the best trained and equipped forces in the world. They will accomplish their mission.

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (sFNX2)

200 We need to hit one of their dams with dam buster bouncing barrels and flood a strategic area reliant upon power generation supplying military facilities. Take out their power, take out their water, flood the valley and set them back 10 years.

Pick one. For starters.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone


Three Gorges Dam.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (v3afF)

That's quite a shot from the Persian Gulf.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (uhVAy)

201 Eliminating bridges will cut supplies to extended IRGC units.
This may help some brave citizens take advantage of
under supplied personnel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (xHEjv)

202 >>> The 100 rule is only for non ACE posts. This is known.

==

What is know is that "the 100 rule" applies only to one thread. The art thread.
Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (GD0B3)


It's really just a suggestion. Think of CBD as a friendly Bison that eagerly wants you to walk up and give him scritches and belly rubs in the form of a non-art comment at around #20.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (3uBP9)

203 the north coast looks like the lake Geneva shoreline, it's so thick with smoke.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (2ap+5)

204 The fact that there is a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic ....
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM

Don't pay the ferryman, don't even fix a price
Don't pay the ferryman, 'til he gets you to the other side
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (4NO2D)
______

That was my text "song-lyric first," ya bastad!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:52 PM (iFTx/)

205 Trump's bombing them all the way back to modern day Europe.

Genius.

Posted by: Absolute genius at July 17, 2026 01:52 PM (TbWk/)

206 112 Springstain was emulating Woody Guthrie who was a Commie pig that the music press adored.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:32 PM (E4rtv)
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I thought he was attempting to imitate Roy Orbison.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea

I thought Chairman Mao.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Orbison could sing, Bruce cannot. Mao could dance but not sing.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:52 PM (E4rtv)

207 How many "Gay Raghead Children" have died today because of 666 Hitler Trump !!!!!!!

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (xl8DV)

208 The bombing may be prep for invasion of Qeshm (is that some sort of dirty word?).

But why? Qeshm and Kharg are only important because of what moves through them. We don't need BOTG to stop that.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (Riz8t)

209 Yeah, you can always pound later.

Posted by: Hunter's brain, off drugs at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (NFX2v)

210 200 Doowa, diddy , diddy ,dum, diddy do
Now those lyrics make some sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (OXYE0)

But... but...

Bird, is the word!

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (mP0Kj)

211 Someone asked Trump if he would use ground troops last week and he said he wouldn't rule it out but he said it wouldn't be our troops... I thought that was interesting...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (FtULh)

212 The fact that there is a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic ....
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM
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But it is quasi-Biblical.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (Fi81e)

213 How many "Gay Raghead Children" have died today because of 666 Hitler Trump !!!!!!!
Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (xl8DV)


Zero. There are no homosexuals in Iran. -- Iranian government

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (ExV1e)

214 What's he protesting?

Whattya got?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (Riz8t)
________

Hooray for our side

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (iFTx/)

215 The fact that there is a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic ....
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

Jacob just dreamed about a ladder. Heaven got some new tech.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (uhVAy)

216 We're s'posed to give CBD belly rubs?

Posted by: Gotta think about that... at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (2Ez/1)

217 Bruce Frederick Joseph Springsteen (born September 23, 1949)
From his Wiki:
At age 19, Springsteen was called for his draft physical, but failed it because of a concussion he had suffered in a motorcycle accident two years earlier; the concussion, combined with his behavior at induction, reportedly made him unacceptable for military service. In failing his examination, Springsteen likely avoided service in the Vietnam War

Fucking poser.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (jehhT)

218 This may help some brave citizens take advantage of
under supplied personnel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (xHEjv)

They should take their guns. Not just "take advantage" of them.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (YHaz5)

219 Back in my day, you could disqualify yourself from the draft by putting an envelope at the bottom of an illegally dumped pile of trash.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (2ap+5)

220 >PS this is a bit unfair because long before present I noticed that train travel takes you through the crummiest and back side of everything where messes are shoveled.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (uhVAy)

Amtrak trains through North Philly have entered the chat.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (GTqXr)

221 Given how Chinese dams are collapsing in the last few weeks I don't think anybody has to hit the Three Gorges Dam with anything

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (OXYE0)

222 Pick one. For starters.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone


Three Gorges Dam.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (v3afF)

That's quite a shot from the Persian Gulf.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:51 PM (uhVAy)

Not if you are flying out of Diego Garcia anyway...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (mP0Kj)

223 I thought he was attempting to imitate Roy Orbison.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea
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I thought that Chris Isaak.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (Fi81e)

224 The fact that there is a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic ....
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

Jacob just dreamed about a ladder. Heaven got some new tech.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (uhVAy)


Maybe Jacob was a sailor. We called stairs ladders.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (ExV1e)

225 It is in a much more strategic position than Kharg.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (wLnmp)


My cat used to Kharg. Always on the carpet; never on a surface that was easy to clean.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (OlzlW)

226 We'll beg them from the Ukraine soon enough.

Posted by: L - No nic,
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Good, we have no business in Ukraine. If Europe wants to fight Russia let them have a go at it. Merkel and her buddies will be more comfortable with Putin anyway.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (xHEjv)

227 Doowa, diddy , diddy ,dum, diddy do
Now those lyrics make some sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:50 PM (OXYE0)

But... but...

Bird, is the word!
Posted by: Romeo13

I'm the eggman, I am the walrus... koo koo ka choo

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (wOO3z)

228 >>Someone asked Trump if he would use ground troops last week and he said he wouldn't rule it out but he said it wouldn't be our troops... I thought that was interesting...

I heard that too. Been wondering which troops he had in mind. Lot of people in that neighborhood who have a serious problem with Iran and now realize who is the big dog.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (viF8m)

229 Orbison could sing, Bruce cannot. Mao could dance but not sing.
Posted by: whig

Mao could swim the Yellow River.

There are pictures

Posted by: Miklos, emulating Lei Feng at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (bziMQ)

230 The Underwear Gnomes are back!

Detroit Free Press
@freep
Opinion: Sick of wildfire smoke? Bring back tax credits for EVs, solar panels

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (ndZc7)

231 @226 so Springsteen jerked off during his induction physical

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (OXYE0)

232 Zero. There are no homosexuals in Iran. -- Iranian government
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


Not now. No. There were a hundred thousand yesterday before flying lessons.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (v3afF)

233 We're s'posed to give CBD belly rubs?
Posted by: Gotta think about that... at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (2Ez/1)
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Only on Tummy Rub Tuesdays.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 01:56 PM (FZ29D)

234 Three Gorges Dam.
Posted by: rickb223

Built on gypsum. Not worth the price of the ammo.

Also unworthy targets, the massive fleet they're building, reminiscent of the massive ghost cities that threw up and abandoned 20 years ago.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:56 PM (Y8DZL)

235 >>I thought that Chris Isaak.


There was a lot of Eddie Rabbit in Chris Isaak's quiver. And more than a little Roy.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:56 PM (uzmqU)

236 Did Springsteen eschew patriotic marketing or did he lean into it?

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:56 PM (/bHKT)

237 Easy again. He's pissed that he's here, instead of that perfect place to go in his mind.

And also pissed he got drafted, then can't get a job. That's kind of a thing.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 01:52 PM (AoR1V)

He didn't get drafted, he 'got into a jam' = broke the law and got busted and went into the army to escape prison.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (uhVAy)

238 so Springsteen jerked off during his induction physical
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (OXYE0)


Who did he jerk off? Were they excused also?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (ExV1e)

239 At age 19, Springsteen was called for his draft physical, but failed it because of a concussion he had suffered in a motorcycle accident two years earlier; the concussion, combined with his behavior at induction, reportedly made him unacceptable for military service. In failing his examination, Springsteen likely avoided service in the Vietnam War

Fucking poser.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Dain bamage

Posted by: Miklos, in best Eddie Murphy voice at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (bziMQ)

240 231 The Boss is probably also pissed just because he lived in New Jersey. I was in New Jersey last week. Not by choice.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (AoR1V)

Eddie Wilson:
Baby, there's nowhere else in the world like the Garden State! You got miles of swamps, and mountains of dumps... different colored rivers... automobiles graveyards... breweries, factories, ballparks, all mixed up together. It's the best place to live.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (mP0Kj)

241 Bruce Frederick Joseph Springsteen (born September 23, 1949)
From his Wiki:
At age 19, Springsteen was called for his draft physical, but failed it because of a concussion he had suffered in a motorcycle accident two years earlier; the concussion, combined with his behavior at induction, reportedly made him unacceptable for military service. In failing his examination, Springsteen likely avoided service in the Vietnam War

Fucking poser.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (jehhT)
---
He told the story on stage. He also said that his father was relieved that his son wasn't going in to the military.

How abusive was his father and how bad could his childhood have been if his father hugs him because he's not going to be drafted?

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (Fi81e)

242 I'd much rather see Peking get a shot than some damn dam.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (xHEjv)

243 Last night proves Trump stole the election from Kumalot Harris and now he is losing his mind and killing innocent people in Iran.

We call on Joe Biden to bring back Strategic Thought and Sanity !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chuck Schumer and Hakeen Jefferies at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (xl8DV)

244 Rupert Lowe speaks of Depoetation NATO.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (t7WpP)

245 241 @226 so Springsteen jerked off during his induction physical
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM


Was that wrong?

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (2Ez/1)

246 >Fucking poser.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (jehhT)

I've said it before, Mr. 'man o' the people' owns a stable of horses for dressage. Not exactly a sport Joe Sixpack can afford.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 17, 2026 01:58 PM (GTqXr)

247 Living in America by James Brown

Much better stuff.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:58 PM (uzmqU)

248 The Underwear Gnomes are back!

Detroit Free Press
@freep
Opinion: Sick of wildfire smoke? Bring back tax credits for EVs, solar panels
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (ndZc7)


Lol. Canada has a punitive carbon tax. Apparently the forests didn't get the memo.

Posted by: far cry at July 17, 2026 01:58 PM (+IsEU)

249 200 Doowa, diddy , diddy ,dum, diddy do
Now those lyrics make some sense
Posted by: Smell the Glove

For the secret meaning, watch LA Story with Steve Martin. One of his better but less known films. And to watch it is to sigh as it was peak LA before the Democrats ran it into the ground.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:58 PM (E4rtv)

250 It is in a much more strategic position than Kharg.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 01:49 PM (wLnmp)

My cat used to Kharg. Always on the carpet; never on a surface that was easy to clean.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (OlzlW)

They like to grip something with the front toes when barfing.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:58 PM (uhVAy)

251 Family values.

Democrats Deliver
@DemzDeliver
Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:58 PM (ndZc7)

252 Maybe civilizations take longer to crumble than an episode of Matlock.

I love Elric, but his entire schtick is that everything conservatives think is wrong.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (2ocoG)

253 >>Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.


I can't see that going wrong at all.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (uzmqU)

254 Someone asked Trump if he would use ground troops last week and he said he wouldn't rule it out but he said it wouldn't be our troops... I thought that was interesting...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:53 PM (FtULh)

------------

Maybe Israelis?

Can't think of any other country that wants to help us ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (KBK+H)

255 Democrats Deliver
@DemzDeliver
Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 01:58 PM (ndZc7)


It's in partnership with a pedo halfway house.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (ExV1e)

256 But why? Qeshm and Kharg are only important because of what moves through them. We don't need BOTG to stop that.
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What gives Iran "control" over Hormuz? Would it be drones 'n missiles? If so, where are they stored and launched? If it's from Q island, invasion makes perfect sense and may be needed to secure strait.

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (sFNX2)

257 >>Lol. Canada has a punitive carbon tax. Apparently the forests didn't get the memo.

Solar panels and EVs aren't going to clean the forests of dead wood. Governor greaseball found that out the hard way.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (viF8m)

258 We're s'posed to give CBD belly rubs?

Posted by: Gotta think about that... at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (2Ez/1)


Good luck with that!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (l4RKn)

259 Guthrie and all those true believers had a rough time of it. First this Stalin guy came along, had Trotsky whacked after becoming persona non grata. The NEP prior, well, never mind. Mass famine and starvation among millions is a little awkward, particularly when the Ukraine is among the very very best farmland in the world, and it isn’t even close.

Then, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The Nazis are our Friends! It’s True! It’s always been true, Comrade …

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (2/ueB)

260 Family values.

Democrats Deliver
@DemzDeliver
Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Q: How many children will be sexually abused during that night out?

A: All of them.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (v3afF)

261 Good, we have no business in Ukraine. If Europe wants to fight Russia let them have a go at it. Merkel and her buddies will be more comfortable with Putin anyway.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:55 PM (xHEjv)

The Saber rattling amongst the Defense Industry class in Europe amuses me... why do we need to spend more in the EU, to protect the EU, from a country that can't even win a war against Ukraine?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (mP0Kj)

262 >263 >>Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.


I can't see that going wrong at all.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (uzmqU)

Bring the children to me...

Posted by: Pedo Troon Babysitter Club at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (GTqXr)

263 Mao could swim the Yellow River.

There are pictures
Posted by: Miklos
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He spent his declining years at poolside attended by a bunch of young women while the Gang of Four ran the country into the ground. So yeah, he could swim.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (E4rtv)

264 r/TheBulwark

We're targeting civilian infrastructure. The US Military is following orders to commit war crimes in an unconstitutional war. Laws are fake if they aren't enforced. A lot of people need to go to prison for this.

This is why Marco Rubio wants to dismantle the International Criminal Court. He’s committing war crimes right and left and doesn’t want to be prosecuted for them.

Gas prices go higher, GOP approval goes lower! 😃

if there is anything that’s going to get us to the point where Republicans propaganda starts to break down, it’s going to be a failing economy. I want Trump voters to feel actual physical pain, listening to Fox News.

I think the only way out of this (to a point of stability) is a Great Depression tier collapse. Something like energy crisis + AI bubble burst + housing crash (replace any of these with: drawn out super El Niño, invasion of Taiwan, corporate bond failure, student loan bubble) followed by a new era of reconstruction. You’re absolutely correct… it will suck balls. It’s honestly more likely that Trump just pseudo-coups the USA and the country backslides further.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (5/BQI)

265 >>Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.

I can't see that going wrong at all.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (uzmqU)

---------------

BREAKING: Mamdani Hires 100,000 Child Molesters for New Free Babysitting Program. Film at 11:00 ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (KBK+H)

266 Mamdani's babysitting service will quickly be overrun by tranny babysitters

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (OXYE0)

267 Good luck with that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (l4RKn)


What if the belly rubber were a cute female with cartoonishly large breasts?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (ExV1e)

268 Please, NJ voted for "Mikey" Sherrile, sticking up their butts
with taxpayer funded helicopter ride.

Attended an official black-tie alumni reception commemorating 50 years of women at the institution.

And, she has kids attending the U.S. Military Academy, too. Remember??

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (NFX2v)

269 263 >>Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.


I can't see that going wrong at all.
Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM

Call me.

Posted by: Chester the molester at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (2Ez/1)

270 Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.
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This is what I've been referring to as "candy coated communism". Get ready for a lot more. A LOT more.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (/bHKT)

271 @259, whig, an excellent movie. Martin being droll

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (OXYE0)

272
What is know is that "the 100 rule" applies only to one thread. The art thread.
Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 01:45 PM (GD0B3)



Several of the weekend threads have the same rule.

Book Thread, Gardening Thread.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (2YhKe)

273 Maybe Israelis?

Can't think of any other country that wants to help us ...
Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (KBK+H)

No. There aren't a lot of them and they would provoke a unifying reaction among the bitter enders.

Once it gets to the stage of slicing up areas, these dudes are gonna be a police force more than being in combat. They can hold an area while defecting Iranians train up and get equipped. Any blowback can be managed by airstrikes and the like.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (uhVAy)

274 >>Can't think of any other country that wants to help us ...

I think they all want to after Iran has been tossing missiles at them recently. Seems like the real question is who besides Israel has the capabiility to help.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (viF8m)

275 "...a cute female with cartoonishly large breasts?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM"

You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (2Ez/1)

276 He spent his declining years at poolside attended by a bunch of young women while the Gang of Four ran the country into the ground. So yeah, he could swim.
Posted by: whig

Not "declining"

Reclining

Posted by: the Chiarman will have another Mai Tai, comrade barktender at July 17, 2026 02:03 PM (bziMQ)

277 Zohran Mamdani launches pilot program offering parents free babysitting during a night out.
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This is what I've been referring to as "candy coated communism". Get ready for a lot more. A LOT more.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:01 PM (/bHKT)

I always liked "Mickey Marxism"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:03 PM (uhVAy)

278 Something like energy crisis + AI bubble burst + housing crash (replace any of these with: drawn out super El Niño, invasion of Taiwan, corporate bond failure, student loan bubble) followed by a new era of reconstruction.
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AKA The Democrat Platform

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:03 PM (/bHKT)

279 > Also unworthy targets, the massive fleet they're building, reminiscent of the massive ghost cities that threw up and abandoned 20 years ago.
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Several months ago there was video of a Taiwanese boat (fishing or Coast Guard, I forget which) being chased by a Chinese Coast Guard vessel and a PLAN (Chinese Navy) warship. The Chinese Guard and warships collided with significant damage to both. Like torn up, with holes punched in the hull.

Naval experts were all over this. Concluding the Chinese warships are literally paper tigers... thin hulls not able to withstand much damage.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 02:03 PM (jehhT)

280 But why? Qeshm and Kharg are only important because of what moves through them. We don't need BOTG to stop that.
---------
What gives Iran "control" over Hormuz? Would it be drones 'n missiles? If so, where are they stored and launched? If it's from Q island, invasion makes perfect sense and may be needed to secure strait.


What gives them the missiles? It's money from selling oil. No oil, no missiles. No Kharg or Qeshm, no oil.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:03 PM (Riz8t)

281 “Opinion: Sick of wildfire smoke? Bring back tax credits for EVs, solar panels“

Wha? My Uncle had a chainsaw.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (2/ueB)

282 The fact that there is a highway to hell but only a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic ....
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:48 PM

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. — Matthew 7:13-14

Who knew one could find so much theology in rock ‘n roll?!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (+gA9j)

283 We're s'posed to give CBD belly rubs?
Posted by: Gotta think about that... at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (2Ez/1)

Good luck with that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (l4RKn)

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I've heard it's the only way to make you purr ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (KBK+H)

284 269 Guthrie and all those true believers had a rough time of it. First this Stalin guy came along, had Trotsky whacked after becoming persona non grata. The NEP prior, well, never mind. Mass famine and starvation among millions is a little awkward, particularly when the Ukraine is among the very very best farmland in the world, and it isn’t even close.

Then, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The Nazis are our Friends! It’s True! It’s always been true, Comrade …
Posted by: Common Tater
=======
Ole Woody didn't give a shit about all that, he made bank from the idiot Commies in the US and he sure as hell was not going to redistribute that to the masses. Same with ole Pete Seeger. Neither died poor. Springstain came from a long line of horseshit peddlers and to his credit, Bob Dylan, to the dismay of Joni Mitchell, didn't follow that tradition.

You would never see Springstain release gospel albums nor Neighborhood Bully like Dylan did.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (E4rtv)

285 Several of the weekend threads have the same rule.

Book Thread, Gardening Thread.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (2YhKe)



WHAT??!! THIS IS SOCIALISM !!

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (GD0B3)

286 He didn't get drafted, he 'got into a jam' = broke the law and got busted and went into the army to escape prison.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 01:57 PM (uhVAy)

You really are a "Super-Republican". That's the kind of shit the British used. Enlist or Go to Jail.

I'm sure you're sitting around, right now, wondering why boys and girls ain't enlisting by droves.

And why we ain't doing Post High School Conscription.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (AoR1V)

Everyone uses that - even Antifa does. You need guys to live the military life, guys who aren't fitting in to civilian life are the main source.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (uhVAy)

287 San Francisco Days by Chris Isaak is an excellent CD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (OXYE0)

288 He spent his declining years at poolside attended by a bunch of young women while the Gang of Four ran the country into the ground. So yeah, he could swim.
Posted by: whig

Not "declining"

Reclining


Mao spent a lot of time at Trader Zhou's.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (Riz8t)

289 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. — Matthew 7:13-14

Who knew one could find so much theology in rock ‘n roll?!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
======
Fun fact, it was an actual gate to Jerusalem city at the time. It was narrow in order to be defensible.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:05 PM (E4rtv)

290 Absent an invasion, I think this is the best way to deal with the Mullahcracy...a gradual degradation of everything they have built over the past 47 years.

I guess we will see whether they are all true believers, or opportunists who will cut and run.

President Trump is inflicting maximum pain on therm with very little risk to our troops, and that is a fantastic combination.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (l4RKn)

291 ------------

Maybe Israelis?

Can't think of any other country that wants to help us ...

Posted by: ShainS
---

Oh, No! Israelis wouldn't want to go tear ass into Iran.

down boy, down

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (xHEjv)

292 277. What if the belly rubber were a cute female with cartoonishly large breasts?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

More than that, great legs on a woman of a certain age - and wearing heels - were his thing, IIRC.

Posted by: Hunter's brain, off drugs at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (NFX2v)

293 beyond the palace hemi powered drones, scream down the boulevard.....

Posted by: what the cat drug in at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (jrgJz)

294 Ole Woody didn't give a shit about all that, he made bank from the idiot Commies in the US and he sure as hell was not going to redistribute that to the masses. Same with ole Pete Seeger. Neither died poor. Springstain came from a long line of horseshit peddlers and to his credit, Bob Dylan, to the dismay of Joni Mitchell, didn't follow that tradition.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (E4rtv)

To be fair, Stalin and Trotsky and Lenin all were pretty well off too.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (uhVAy)

295 The internet sez:

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Springsteen used this patriotic imagery to contrast with his lyrics, which painted a darker picture.
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Sure he fucking did. No - he used it to sell albums because he's a corrupt asshole who knew if he stood behind his lyrics all the way it would turn people off. Far better to profit off of a lie. It's the leftist way.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (/bHKT)

296 We're targeting civilian infrastructure.

Now do BLM during the height of the Mostly Peaceful Protests

Posted by: Community Notes at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (U4c/V)

297
291 But why? Qeshm and Kharg are only important because of what moves through them. We don't need BOTG to stop that.
---------

Not true for Qeshm - it’s a place of many radar and surveillance sites, docking facilities for the mosquito fleet, hidden drone bases and reportedly a buried missile base. Kharg is commercial, Qeshm is a military outpost.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (wLnmp)

298 Mao spent a lot of time at Trader Zhou's.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM


He's a blood thirsty devil but his chicken is so good.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (4NO2D)

299 And he liked my chicken recipe.

Posted by: General Zhou at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (2Ez/1)

300 Lexus Liberals. Suburu Socialists.

“Cadillac Communists” for a time had a certain panache, but the car make itself has lost quite a bit of its luster, hence more modern vehicles are appropriate.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (2/ueB)

301 “Opinion: Sick of wildfire smoke? Bring back tax credits for EVs, solar panels“

Wha? My Uncle had a chainsaw.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:04 PM (2/ueB)

---------------

Wouldn't it be cheaper, easier, and more efficient to just stop lightning strikes by building Trump's Golden Dome Missile Shield?

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (KBK+H)

302 Who knew one could find so much theology in rock ‘n roll?!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Put not your faith in princes=Won't Get Fooled Again.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (E4rtv)

303 I always liked "Mickey Marxism"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:03 PM (uhVAy)

That's good

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (/bHKT)

304 Mao enjoyed raping 12 yr old girls. Communists are big on child rape

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (OXYE0)

305 Maybe civilizations take longer to crumble than an episode of Matlock.

I love Elric, but his entire schtick is that everything conservatives think is wrong.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 01:59 PM (2ocoG)
______

Not at all. I agree with 95% of conservative theory and policy. But I think too many of us believe what we want to believe -- whether it's positive or negative -- and will cling to that like Ahab.

I'm sure there are some people who still think the Iranian people are just "days away" from a massive rebellion.

And the comment above proves my point: I do think civilizations take a very long time to crumble. Hence my continued skepticism every time I hear for the 100th time that "IRAN IS ABOUT TO FALL."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (iFTx/)

306 If you read Marcuse, it's kind of funny that by the time he had sworn off the USSR, that his great commie hope was China.

That was during the time that Mao had the Great Famine while exporting produce to "prove to the world" that "socialism works".

Marcuse's fans want to sell socialism to us, today.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (Fi81e)

307 > Can't think of any other country that wants to help us ...

I think they all want to after Iran has been tossing missiles at them recently. Seems like the real question is who besides Israel has the capabiility to help.
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Saudi, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait... all of the Gulf States except Iran have been kitted out with some of the United States best military gear. F-16's, 15's and AWACS. M-1 tanks and Bradley IFV's. Patriot SAM's. Etc. Yet the manpower isn't there, or willing to fight. They will show up for a parade however.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (jehhT)

308 Springsteen is one of those guys who position themselves to catch anything that drips out of the gloryhole.

He basks in it like a Tijuana whore.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 02:08 PM (sYM3s)

309 278 Something like energy crisis + AI bubble burst + housing crash (replace any of these with: drawn out super El Niño, invasion of Taiwan, corporate bond failure, student loan bubble) followed by a new era of reconstruction.
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AKA The Democrat Platform
Posted by: ...

That's the "only way out of this (to a point of stability)". If all that needs to go wrong, maybe we're pretty stable and doing alright?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 17, 2026 02:08 PM (5/BQI)

310 Several of the weekend threads have the same rule.

Book Thread, Gardening Thread.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (2YhKe)
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Strictly speaking the Sunday Morning Book Thread does NOT have a "100 comment rule." It's more like a guideline.

Only once in recent memory have I altered a comment and that was from Paul because he was being his retarded self.

However, pants ARE required, per AoSHQ Etiquette Rules.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 02:08 PM (FZ29D)

311 We're targeting civilian infrastructure.

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Infrastructure, exostructure, we're targeting it all!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:08 PM (ndZc7)

312 An argument could be made that Stalin was the richest man that ever lived. He literally owned everyone and everything in a continent spanning empire.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (4NO2D)

313
Also unworthy targets, the massive fleet they're building, reminiscent of the massive ghost cities that threw up and abandoned 20 years ago.
Posted by: Auspex

==============

I'm gonna be willowed, but what's this? I never knew their fleet was as soy as their ghost cities.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (mmrXZ)

314 To be fair, Stalin and Trotsky and Lenin all were pretty well off too.
Posted by: Oldcat

You left out Castro, Chavez, Mao, etc. Dictatorship of the Proletariat should have Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good to Me" as its theme song.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (E4rtv)

315 Not true for Qeshm - it’s a place of many radar and surveillance sites, docking facilities for the mosquito fleet, hidden drone bases and reportedly a buried missile base. Kharg is commercial, Qeshm is a military outpost.

Then we know where they are, and that means we can destroy them from the air.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (Riz8t)

316 Several months ago there was video of a Taiwanese boat (fishing or Coast Guard, I forget which) being chased by a Chinese Coast Guard vessel and a PLAN (Chinese Navy) warship. The Chinese Guard and warships collided with significant damage to both. Like torn up, with holes punched in the hull.

Naval experts were all over this. Concluding the Chinese warships are literally paper tigers... thin hulls not able to withstand much damage.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 02:03 PM (jehhT)

Light ships like destroyers are always like that. If you want to go fast, carry all the weapons too well something has to give. They were called 'tin cans' for a reason. In Mid War they found a B-25 with 50 cal guns on it could just ventilate the crap out of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (uhVAy)

317 304 Mao enjoyed raping 12 yr old girls. Communists are big on child rape
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Islam 💘 Communism

Posted by: Child Rapin' Muhammed at July 17, 2026 02:10 PM (5/BQI)

318 268 We're s'posed to give CBD belly rubs?

Posted by: Gotta think about that... at July 17, 2026 01:54 PM (2Ez/1)

Good luck with that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 02:00 PM (l4RKn)

Skriiiiitch, skritch, skritch, skritch, skritch, skritch.

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:10 PM (6wpGE)

319 This may have already been mentioned. I only read half of the comments.

Iran International is a VERY useful site for war news. Today it reported on a leaked poll, taken in May, and commissioned by the so-called Iran moderates, led by the Iranian Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf.

To cut to the chase, the poll shows the regime, its works, and its policies to be just extraoridnarily unpopular.

The people can't afford food. This was in May. I suspect it's gotten worse. They have a very bleak view of their future. They would like to see fundamental changes made in the govt.

The article points out (intuitively correct) that the terrible polling data likely understates the real extent of disapproval... because many people are afraid to answer.

I've often wondered-- if the U.S. set up a Free Iran Republic, perhaps in the Kurdish territory, if many non-Kurds might rally to it.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 02:10 PM (RCjYY)

320 End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
British leftist Roger Waters calls the US "the absolute devil" on Tucker's show today

He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba

Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)

321 To be fair, Stalin and Trotsky and Lenin all were pretty well off too.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (uhVAy)
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Commie leaders have all sorts of mouthed good intentions about "To each according to his need", but they really believe that they should be compensated in accord to their "great contribution" to the advancement of mankind.

Berea was flat out extorting hot wives for sex with the prosecution of their husbands.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (Fi81e)

322 Also unworthy targets, the massive fleet they're building, reminiscent of the massive ghost cities that threw up and abandoned 20 years ago.
Posted by: Auspex

==============

I'm gonna be willowed, but what's this? I never knew their fleet was as soy as their ghost cities.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (mmrXZ)

Getting a strong navy isn't just about building boats and never has been. Germany, say, never really managed it very well despite all the wasted effort.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (uhVAy)

323 >>And the comment above proves my point: I do think civilizations take a very long time to crumble. Hence my continued skepticism every time I hear for the 100th time that "IRAN IS ABOUT TO FALL."

The ruling minority it Iran is not a civilization. It is a mafia organized around a tyrannical system that enslaves the overwhelming majority of Persians that actually are a civilization that goes back to ancient times.

The mullahs grip is through force not consent. Even system like that throughout history is brittle once they lose their grip on power and that can happen in a flash once desparate people see no other option.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (viF8m)

324 To be fair, Stalin and Trotsky and Lenin all were pretty well off too.
Posted by: Oldcat

You left out Castro, Chavez, Mao, etc. Dictatorship of the Proletariat should have Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good to Me" as its theme song.
Posted by: whig

I read that Hugo Chavez's daughter is holed up in the Caribbean somewhere with $4 billion.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (wOO3z)

325 Cut off Southern Iran and the rest of the country dies. Everything comes in and goes out through the Southern ports.

We do not need $200K Soldiers to occupy Iran. Our history on nation building SUX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marines Occupy Kharg Island and the other Islands and Iran is over. US Navy patrols along the coast and islands and bang we control Iran.

We can take the oil and use it for ourselves.

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (E1Bcr)

326 Not true for Qeshm - it’s a place of many radar and surveillance sites, docking facilities for the mosquito fleet, hidden drone bases and reportedly a buried missile base. Kharg is commercial, Qeshm is a military outpost.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2026 02:06 PM (wLnmp)
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Which makes it somewhat baffling that Qeshm wasn't taken out immediately during the opening salvos. I get it's a hard target, but drop enough ordinance and that buried missile base ain't launching anything.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (FZ29D)

327 British leftist Roger Waters calls the US "the absolute devil" on Tucker's show today

He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)
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Didn't Maduro lose his election and fail to leave office?

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (Fi81e)

328 They would like to see fundamental changes made in the govt.

By someone else. Nothing ever changes in the world until the "by someone else" part goes away.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (ExV1e)

329 nd Wokeness
@EndWokeness
British leftist Roger Waters calls the US "the absolute devil" on Tucker's show today

He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)

He's been saying that all his life. Along with all the other Brit Leftists.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (uhVAy)

330 Put not your faith in princes=Won't Get Fooled Again.
Posted by: whig
_________

Also, The Seeker. Although I read somewhere that Townshend hated that song.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (XvL8K)

331 End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
British leftist Roger Waters calls the US "the absolute devil" on Tucker's show today

He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)
_________________

"That dude is a fucking wanker"

-- David Gilmour

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:13 PM (iFTx/)

332 One rumor or theory is that Dylan avoided the draft, he was prime age, by eschewing the “protest” schtick and tunes.

“Magee’s Farm” tells the tale, in this account, a mangling of the McGee farm, where he played some tunes down south during a voter registration drive or whatever. Everyone was polite as could be, but “who the hell is this guy” wasn’t too far under the surface.

I think it was Joan Baez among others who were upset Bob stood down from opining too heavily on political issues.

“I’m just a song and dance man” was how he described himself at a press conference in California in 1965. Good for him.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:13 PM (2/ueB)

333
I've heard this 100x over the last few months. I hope this time it's based on real facts and not wishcasters pulling optimism out of their assholes.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

============

It's probably true, but somehow things never implode -- except maybe the Roman Empire. I don't know how. Liberia and North Korea should have imploded.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 17, 2026 02:13 PM (mmrXZ)

334 This is what I've been referring to as "candy coated communism". Get ready for a lot more. A LOT more.
Posted by: ...

This sh*t is candy coated! Try it, it's delish!

Posted by: Just about every College Prof at July 17, 2026 02:13 PM (LnMJr)

335 @EndWokeness
British leftist Roger Waters calls the US "the absolute devil" on Tucker's show today

He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)

He's been saying that all his life. Along with all the other Brit Leftists.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (uhVAy)


In fairness, he spends a lot of time saying "Joos Bad".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (ExV1e)

336 You left out Castro, Chavez, Mao, etc. Dictatorship of the Proletariat should have Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good to Me" as its theme song.
Posted by: whig
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You cut the name short. It's really "Dictatorship (In The Name) of the Proletariat".

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (Fi81e)

337 312 An argument could be made that Stalin was the richest man that ever lived. He literally owned everyone and everything in a continent spanning empire.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (4NO2D)

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And that's different from the tsars...how?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (PIaQL)

338 Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (uhVAy)

Gulf Council led by the House of Saud.

Saudis have 225,000 in their army, with American Training and Equipment. They have stockpiles of Abrahms tanks, still being maintained from Desert Storm and such.

They would need to get Iraq's permission to get to Iran, and have supply lines... but with American Airpower... do able IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (mP0Kj)

339 nd Wokeness
@EndWokeness
British leftist Roger Waters calls the US "the absolute devil" on Tucker's show today

He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)

He's been saying that all his life. Along with all the other Brit Leftists.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (uhVAy)
________

It's almost like they don't know we fought -- and won -- a big war so we could stop giving a rat's ass what Brits think

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (iFTx/)

340 "That dude is a fucking wanker"

-- David Gilmour
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:13 PM (iFTx/)


And then he'd play an awesome 30 minute guitar solo.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (ExV1e)

341 Love listening to the Iranian people watching the explosions and hoping the mullahs are about to fall

--

I've been assured that all Iranian people hate Trump.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (qBdHI)

342 335 This is what I've been referring to as "candy coated communism". Get ready for a lot more. A LOT more.
Posted by: ...

This sh*t is candy coated! Try it, it's delish!
Posted by: Just about every College Prof at July 17, 2026 02:13 PM (LnMJr)

First one's free!

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (6wpGE)

343 Kennedys. Bushes. Roosevelts.

On and on. We have Aristocracy as well.
Posted by: Noise Gate

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Sasha and Malia, heirs to fabled Obama Netflix fortune at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (bziMQ)

344 You cut the name short. It's really "Dictatorship (In The Name) of the Proletariat".
Posted by: Axeman
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I don't follow Communist style guides. To name something means that you should name it truly rather than obfuscate.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:15 PM (E4rtv)

345 >>"W" avoided the draft. Discuss.

So did Joey shit pants. Cause he had hairy legs.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:15 PM (viF8m)

346 It takes years to build an army.
It takes decades to build a navy.

Posted by: Well Established Pentagon Mantra at July 17, 2026 02:15 PM (2Ez/1)

347 This isn't the Armageddon Iran wanted, but what the Mullahs deserve.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:15 PM (ZpG08)

348 And that's different from the tsars...how?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (PIaQL)


He called people comrade. And he was way more willing to have people killed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:15 PM (ExV1e)

349 I've heard this 100x over the last few months. I hope this time it's based on real facts and not wishcasters pulling optimism out of their assholes.

Americans have little patience for extended wars when men are being killed. That's why the Dems are trying so hard to make it sound like they are in Iran.

By contrast, we can continue to take out targets remotely forever, because there are no sad pictures of caskets coming home to DE, no matter how much the Dems want there to be.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:16 PM (Riz8t)

350 >"W" avoided the draft. Discuss.
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And I've got proof.

Posted by: Dan Rather at July 17, 2026 02:16 PM (2Ez/1)

351 To be fair, Stalin and Trotsky and Lenin all were pretty well off too.
——-

That’s how it always works. They feel guilty about not being born poor, and set about annoying the poor by trying to “help” them.

Often resulting in piles of skulls and utter ruin in their wake, but hey they mean well. Good intentions are what counts, not results.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:16 PM (2/ueB)

352 "W" avoided the draft. Discuss.

"W" was in the military. They don't draft people who're already in the military.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (ExV1e)

353 Gulf Council led by the House of Saud.

Saudis have 225,000 in their army, with American Training and Equipment. They have stockpiles of Abrahms tanks, still being maintained from Desert Storm and such.

They would need to get Iraq's permission to get to Iran, and have supply lines... but with American Airpower... do able IMO.
Posted by: Romeo13
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I don't see it happening. Saudis tried and failed to take on Houthis several years ago, Iran would be a much tougher nut to crack.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (E4rtv)

354 "W" avoided the draft. Discuss.
Posted by: Noise Gate
________

He probably had a higher chance of dying in that plane than Vietnam. What was it, the F104?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (XvL8K)

355 After Gulf war 1 we left an entire division's worth of equiptment in Kuwait. I don't know what happened to it but it was there in '93 when my brigade went over there to take it all out for a spin.
And map out the desert for some secret navigation system.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (YHaz5)

356 Always liked Pink Floyd, but Roger Waters is a complete asshole

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (OXYE0)

357 An argument could be made that Stalin was the richest man that ever lived. He literally owned everyone and everything in a continent spanning empire.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (4NO2D)

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And that's different from the tsars...how?


Compared to Stalin and Lenin, the tsars were libertarians who only wanted to sit in their palaces and smoke weed.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (Riz8t)

358 353 To be fair, Stalin and Trotsky and Lenin all were pretty well off too.
——-

That’s how it always works. They feel guilty about not being born poor, and set about annoying the poor by trying to “help” them.

Often resulting in piles of skulls and utter ruin in their wake, but hey they mean well. Good intentions are what counts, not results.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:16 PM (2/ueB)

======

We don't know the names of the leaders of the great leftist rebellions who failed, like the Red Brigade in Italy.

It's never a fait accompli once the rich kids get some Marx in them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (PIaQL)

359 And the comment above proves my point: I do think civilizations take a very long time to crumble. Hence my continued skepticism every time I hear for the 100th time that "IRAN IS ABOUT TO FALL."

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (viF8m)
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Things are what they are. They don't just fall to ruin when our expectations of them are changed. Power in an organization like a state remains in it.

Power, like freedom, has no necessary content. Which is why we jail and kill people who would take our freedom from us if we can. (That's because freedom is more or less power).

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (Fi81e)

360 He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)

He's been saying that all his life. Along with all the other Brit Leftists.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (uhVAy)
________

It's almost like they don't know we fought -- and won -- a big war so we could stop giving a rat's ass what Brits think
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (iFTx/)

And when you ask him about his own government locking people into prison for telling the truth on the internet? /crickets

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (mP0Kj)

361 >>@EricLDaugh
·
16m
>>🚨 BREAKING — MASSIVE 2A WIN: US federal appeals court STRIKES DOWN New Jersey Democrats' law that bans Americans possessing semiautomatic rifles like the AR-15, and "large capacity magazines" with over 10 rounds...

>>...it has been declared a VIOLATION of the 2nd Amendment

>>LFG!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (viF8m)

362 Dan Rather avoided the Draft during the Korean War by joining the National Guard.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (ZpG08)

363 349 This isn't the Armageddon Iran wanted, but what the Mullahs deserve.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:15 PM
--------------------------------
You have to go war with the Armageddon that you have, not the Armageddon that you want.

Posted by: The ghost of Don Rumsfeld at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (2Ez/1)

364 An argument could be made that Stalin was the richest man that ever lived. He literally owned everyone and everything in a continent spanning empire.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 02:09 PM (4NO2D)

========

And that's different from the tsars...how?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror

Alexander II ended serfdom.

The commies brought it back and made it universal.

Posted by: Miklosov, Ancient Slavonaut Theorist at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (bziMQ)

365 The Saudi army is there for show only. Completely inept.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (wOO3z)

366 355 I don't see it happening. Saudis tried and failed to take on Houthis several years ago, Iran would be a much tougher nut to crack.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (E4rtv)

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Well, Israel took care of the Houthis.

But, the larger point of the Gulf States seem unwilling to use the militaries that they do have seems like an ironclad reality of life.

The military is a plaything for the regime, and not much else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (PIaQL)

367 I've heard this 100x over the last few months. I hope this time it's based on real facts and not wishcasters pulling optimism out of their assholes.

Americans have little patience for extended wars when men are being killed. That's why the Dems are trying so hard to make it sound like they are in Iran.

By contrast, we can continue to take out targets remotely forever, because there are no sad pictures of caskets coming home to DE, no matter how much the Dems want there to be.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:16 PM (Riz8t)
_______

Well, yea -- but that would be a longer, drawn-out war, which is how I think this will end up. It's more likely to fade into the background while continuing -- like the war in Ukraine that 99% of people forgot about -- than end in spectacular fashion with the collapse of Iran.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (iFTx/)

368 The fact that the tested Iran regime holds power only by force kind of supports my musing about setting up a Republic of Free Iran in the Kurdish territory.

That would be a place where non-Kurdish opponents of the regime could rally, as well as Kurds.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (RCjYY)

369 Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:02 PM (uhVAy)

Gulf Council led by the House of Saud.

Saudis have 225,000 in their army, with American Training and Equipment. They have stockpiles of Abrahms tanks, still being maintained from Desert Storm and such.

They would need to get Iraq's permission to get to Iran, and have supply lines... but with American Airpower... do able IMO.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (mP0Kj)

Might be able to grab a port city on the cheap with them and hold it using air power and naval resupply. However feeding the local populace would be a problem, even if drones/missiles are just an irritant.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (uhVAy)

370 @EndWokeness
British leftist Roger Waters calls the US "the absolute devil" on Tucker's show today

He says the Maduro raid proves it



He should watch all the Euro videos from the US during the World Cup.

Not much Devil coming from that stuff........

What a maroon.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (2YhKe)

371 I don't really give a shit about the Iranian people because they put up with this shit for over 47 years. Fuck them too. They're on their own.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (sYM3s)

372 >>And the comment above proves my point: I do think civilizations take a very long time to crumble. Hence my continued skepticism every time I hear for the 100th time that "IRAN IS ABOUT TO FALL."

>>Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (viF8m)

T'was not me.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (viF8m)

373 Watching high explosive ordnance detonate heavy infrastructure really is beautiful to watch, if nothing else.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (BI5O2)

374 > Getting a strong navy isn't just about building boats and never has been. Germany, say, never really managed it very well despite all the wasted effort.
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A lot of analysis has gone into the PLAN's new carriers. There's speculation the next one they build will be nuke powered. That'll be interesting. The CCP has a lot invested in their Navy right now, but they're still unable to fully operate a carrier strength air wing off of any of their flattops.

Although they have (somewhat) got a grip on nuke power for some of their submarines. Of course the do not advertise anything like a safety record on them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (jehhT)

375 363 He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)

He's been saying that all his life. Along with all the other Brit Leftists.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (uhVAy)
________

It's almost like they don't know we fought -- and won -- a big war so we could stop giving a rat's ass what Brits think
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (iFTx/)

=======

It's almost like he thinks that dull, midwit rhetoric should be the ruling edifice of the planet instead of actual power.

It's a nice fantasy, I guess. Except for all the side effects.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (PIaQL)

376 Just reported that all Iranian Airspace is Shut Down. No flights in or out. This is "THE END"........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFUQPrUUx4U

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (E1Bcr)

377 That’s how it always works. They feel guilty about not being born poor, and set about annoying the poor by trying to “help” them.

Often resulting in piles of skulls and utter ruin in their wake, but hey they mean well. Good intentions are what counts, not results.
Posted by: Common Tater
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I don't think Stalin or Lenin (not as familiar with Trotsky's works) gave one thin damn about the poor--to them it was these dear leaders were the instruments of history Marx style to raise up their society to utopia. If a bunch of peasants had to die in order to keep the dream alive, so what.

Individuals don't count for shit in that particular system other than NPCs that will be lead by the Guardians (Marxism is really recycled crap from Plato's Republic).

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (E4rtv)

378 347 >>"W" avoided the draft. Discuss.

So did Joey shit pants. Cause he had hairy legs.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:15 PM (viF8m)

Joey Bidet saw combat with Corn Pop!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (CUP/i)

379 The IRGC brass is going to have backup generators.
Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 01:38 PM (FUjuU)


What are they going to fuel them with, prayers?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (tWxgu)

380 Yep. So lets call this what it is. And shit-can this idea of "Great Americans Volunteering to Serve the Country".

Our Ruling Class calls bullshit on this.
Posted by: Noise Gate at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (cY6ao)


Both Presidents Bush served in the military. Nixon served. Reagan was 4F, I believe, as was Trump.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (ExV1e)

381 *Yep. So lets call this what it is. And shit-can this idea of "Great Americans Volunteering to Serve the Country".*
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Saw a trailer recently for a movie about Jimmy Stewart and the war. Might be good.

https://youtu.be/EURriesRel0

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (2Ez/1)

382 Gen. Teddy Roosevelt Jr went ashore at Normandy on 6 June.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (ZpG08)

383 But it's a dry heat.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (QaH55)

384 371 The fact that the tested Iran regime holds power only by force kind of supports my musing about setting up a Republic of Free Iran in the Kurdish territory.

That would be a place where non-Kurdish opponents of the regime could rally, as well as Kurds.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 02:19 PM (RCjYY)

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I welcome Iran continuing to be ruled by violent, inbred retards as long as they can't project power outside their borders.

I don't care about the Iranian people if they're unwilling to rise up themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (PIaQL)

385 "That dude is a fucking wanker"

-- David Gilmour
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:13 PM (iFTx/)

And then he'd play an awesome 30 minute guitar solo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (ExV1e)
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Or, often enough, Waters bass track for him.

Gilmour said he's never met a musician that is less interested in improving on their instrument than Waters. He's tell Waters, "Looks like I won another award for you."

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (Fi81e)

386 "W" avoided the draft. Discuss.
Posted by: Noise Gate
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He probably had a higher chance of dying in that plane than Vietnam. What was it, the F104?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (XvL8K)

yeah, that plane had a bad rep.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (uhVAy)

387 Both Presidents Bush served in the military. Nixon served. Reagan was 4F, I believe, as was Trump.
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Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: Gerald Ford at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (2Ez/1)

388 Just reported that all Iranian Airspace is Shut Down. No flights in or out. This is "THE END"........

Jim Morrison has entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (wOO3z)

389 They will show up for a parade however.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 02:07 PM (jehhT)

Back in the day, the Qataris showed up in alongside the Marines Kafji and had an exchange with the Iraqis. The Saudis showed up too...just not as much.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (3Ope8)

390
Well, yea -- but that would be a longer, drawn-out war, which is how I think this will end up. It's more likely to fade into the background while continuing -- like the war in Ukraine that 99% of people forgot about -- than end in spectacular fashion with the collapse of Iran.


Could be, or maybe not. An intelligence agency that can't forecast the collapse off the USSR is probably not going to get it right. However, in the meantime, we can just wait until the IRGC holdouts have had enough bombing. It sucks for the people of Iran, but it gives our fifth column leftists nothing to work with.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (Riz8t)

391 A Viet Nam veteran many years ago, kind of a hippie type hybrid allowed that “Elvis died in the Army”. Not literally of course, but he wasn’t quite the same afterwards.

Afaik, he was a standup guy and didn’t want special treatment. The Army obliged and sent him to an armor unit in West Germany.

Dylan in the Army would have been pretty whack. Or, “out of whackl maybe. I would have paid good money to hear Jonathon Winters in the Marine Corps. You know that guy was a comedian then too, most people don’t know the military is a laugh a minute at times, just because.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (2/ueB)

392 He says the Maduro raid proves it

https://tinyurl.com/7txyuaba
Posted by: redridinghood at July 17, 2026 02:11 PM (NpAcC)

He's been saying that all his life. Along with all the other Brit Leftists.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:12 PM (uhVAy)
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It's almost like they don't know we fought -- and won -- a big war so we could stop giving a rat's ass what Brits think
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:14 PM (iFTx/)

And when you ask him about his own government locking people into prison for telling the truth on the internet? /crickets
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 17, 2026 02:18 PM (mP0Kj)
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Waters is a bitter, miserable old prick. It seems that anyone who has ever worked with him hates his guts. He makes Glen Frey and Don Henley seem like nice guys.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (iFTx/)

393 393 Just reported that all Iranian Airspace is Shut Down. No flights in or out. This is "THE END"........

Jim Morrison has entered the chat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (wOO3z)

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"Can't we get our own music!"
-Jarhead

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (PIaQL)

394 children and the crops in the field.

Posted by: banana Dream - You picked a bad time to leave me lucile. at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (3uBP9)

395 A federal appeals court on ​Friday ruled that New ‌Jersey's assault-weapons law barring the possession of ​AR-15 semi-automatic ​rifles and large capacity magazines ⁠containing more ​than 10 rounds of ​ammunition is unconstitutional. The ruling by the Philadelphia-based 3rd ​U.S. Circuit Court ​of Appeals marked the first ‌time ⁠a federal appeals court had ruled that a state's ​assault ​weapons ⁠ban violated the U.S. Constitution's ​Second Amendment by ​burdening ⁠the right to keep and bear ⁠arms ​for self-defense.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 02:23 PM (RHGPo)

396 dang it

Posted by: banana Dream - You picked a bad time to leave me lucile. at July 17, 2026 02:23 PM (3uBP9)

397 He probably had a higher chance of dying in that plane than Vietnam. What was it, the F104?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (XvL8K)

yeah, that plane had a bad rep.
Posted by: Oldcat


Aka, Widowmaker or Missile with a Man In It.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2026 02:23 PM (v3afF)

398 I’m glad we’re back to my favorite Beach Boys song… but it is becoming clear that this regime is NOT close to collapse. I’ve hear that too often the last few months to take it seriously… but bombing these people is better than talking

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 02:23 PM (+gA9j)

399 I will bust this all day. He got an Air Guard position ... same way as my dad dodged by getting into the Kentucky National Guard. Because the idea was that a State had to send a National Guard Unit.
Posted by: Noise Gate at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (cY6ao)


In which branch did you serve?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:23 PM (ExV1e)

400 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (PIaQL)

Hey, I got a bunch of ads during your video today. Did you get monetized?

Congrats, if so.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at July 17, 2026 02:24 PM (vSvIl)

401 "W" was in the military. They don't draft people who're already in the military.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (ExV1e)

I will bust this all day. He got an Air Guard position ... same way as my dad dodged by getting into the Kentucky National Guard. Because the idea was that a State had to send a National Guard Unit.
Posted by: Noise Gate at July 17, 2026 02:21 PM (cY6ao)

All drafts at all times are mostly a stimulus for people to enlist on their own to get a spot they like better (and not always be safe from deployment - Nat Guard units went into the Pacific from the start.)

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:24 PM (uhVAy)

402 Vas ist der scheis scheine cY6ao?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:24 PM (ZpG08)

403 Temperatures in the capital were expected to hit triple digits Friday, with highs of 102F on Saturday and Sunday.

.. simple fix .. use celsius instead of fahrenheit

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 02:24 PM (RHGPo)

404 Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we're Free at last!

NOT SATIRE: United Airlines Lets Libs Switch Flights If They Don’t Want To Land At New Donald J. Trump Airport

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (ndZc7)

405 Reagan served in the military but he couldn't get into flight training because of poor eyesight. He was in national guard before WWII

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (OXYE0)

406 A lot of analysis has gone into the PLAN's new carriers. There's speculation the next one they build will be nuke powered. That'll be interesting.

I believe it is absolutely certain that it will be nuke-powered. Say what you will about its predecessors, the PRC has made incredible progress in a very short time.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (Riz8t)

407 They will show up for a parade however.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Question becomes; Who will they pay to do their work?
India?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (xHEjv)

408 " Iran has told its citizens to turn off their air conditioning during peak hours as the country's power grid came under strain amid US strikes."

/// This just in.. Iran has better air conditioning that all of Europe..

Posted by: Blanco at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (rnXoa)

409 Convair F-102 Delta Dagger.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (ZpG08)

410 I don't think Stalin or Lenin (not as familiar with Trotsky's works) gave one thin damn about the poor--to them it was these dear leaders were the instruments of history Marx style to raise up their society to utopia. If a bunch of peasants had to die in order to keep the dream alive, so what.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (E4rtv)
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Lenin even wrote that he liked putting the scare into Russian civilians. He liked that when the NKVD visited an apartment complex late at night people trembled behind their doors that they might be the target.

Total fucking liar, that guy. Remember, he was one of the noble born in the "Bolshevik" leadership who chose Marxism as the new pattern.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (Fi81e)

411 Kermit Roosevelt, TR’s grandson, was a serious spook agent hopping around Iran of all places in the 1950s

He played a big part in getting rid of Mossedega and installing Shah

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:26 PM (2/ueB)

412 It's almost like he thinks that dull, midwit rhetoric should be the ruling edifice of the planet instead of actual power.

It's a nice fantasy, I guess. Except for all the side effects.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Guy was traumatized by his father's death in Anzio. So after he tackled mental illness in Dark Side of the Moon (Syd Barrett), the music business (Wish you were Here), he started in on Orwell (Animals) and then the Wall where he had his own reckoning with the alienating effects of musical stardom, his father's death at Anzio and a fear of an Orwellian government. Final Cut dealt with Maggie's England and nuclear war.

Then he went totally anti-Semite. From what I recall, part of the Wall's bitter ashes of stardom was from the Animal's tour where Roger got annoyed at a fan yelling and screaming on the front row for every song--loud or soft. So he beckoned the fan closer and then spit on him from the stage.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:26 PM (E4rtv)

413 Always liked Pink Floyd, but Roger Waters is a complete asshole

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:17 PM (OXYE0)

That's not allowed.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 02:26 PM (/bHKT)

414 Reagan served in the military but he couldn't get into flight training because of poor eyesight. He was in national guard before WWII
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (OXYE0)


Thank you for the correction.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:26 PM (ExV1e)

415 Blasting trolls would have messed the number anyway. Sorry Kenny, I tried.

Posted by: banana Dream - This one's for Becky at July 17, 2026 02:26 PM (3uBP9)

416 >>Military recruiting hit a 15-year high. How quickly do recruits become mission ready?

https://tinyurl.com/33v5wekb

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:26 PM (viF8m)

417 Say what you want about my White House tour of duty, but I was a nuke.

Posted by: Jimmah at July 17, 2026 02:27 PM (2Ez/1)

418 This is "THE END"........

Jim Morrison has entered the chat.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (wOO3z)


Zepplin's second worst song.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 02:27 PM (kAEfL)

419 NOT SATIRE: United Airlines Lets Libs Switch Flights If They Don’t Want To Land At New Donald J. Trump Airport

Good grief. What a bunch of weenies!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 02:27 PM (D+BhG)

420 Kermit Roosevelt, TR’s grandson, was a serious spook agent hopping around Iran of all places in the 1950s

He played a big part in getting rid of Mossedega and installing Shah
Posted by: Common Tater

He got Miss Piggy to ditch the burqa.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 02:27 PM (wOO3z)

421 I’m glad we’re back to my favorite Beach Boys song… but it is becoming clear that this regime is NOT close to collapse. I’ve hear that too often the last few months to take it seriously… but bombing these people is better than talking
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 02:23 PM (+gA9j)

it is never clear until the collapse happens. That's why it is called a collapse.

I agree that there is "a lot of ruin in a nation" so people who think if it doesn't go down in a week everything has failed are being silly.

What I don't see yet is any sign that the country is rallying and getting stronger. Factions fight factions, leaders get killed, the 'reprisals' become weaker and nations join our alliance and join in.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:28 PM (uhVAy)

422 James Madison didn't serve in the military, therefore he was a bad person and a bad president.

Did command an artillery battle during the War of 1812, though, while he was president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:28 PM (PIaQL)

423 He makes Glen Frey and Don Henley seem like nice guys.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 02:22 PM (iFTx/)
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LOL. No disagreement.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:28 PM (Fi81e)

424 Nood. Maine.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (ExV1e)

425 >>Military recruiting hit a 15-year high. How quickly do recruits become mission ready?

https://tinyurl.com/33v5wekb
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 02:26 PM (viF8m)

If the mission is 'free up regular troops for real missions' the answer is almost at once.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (uhVAy)

426 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (NcvvS)

427 Army National Guard units fought in Java and in the Philippines at the start of the war.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (ZpG08)

428 nood



Maine

Posted by: banana Dream - This one's for Becky at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (3uBP9)

429 392. Its the same as Boomers claiming "Vietnam Era Vet". They were never in country.
Posted by: Noise Gate

"Era" designation, could be likely they were not in country.

HOWEVER, Millions of Baby Boomers served as soldiers during the Vietnam Era. Born between 1946 and 1964, they comprised the primary generation that fought in the conflict. While roughly half of the draft-eligible men in that generation received deferments (often for college), millions of others volunteered or were drafted.

Older Boomers (born 1946–1952) were the demographic most heavily impacted by the draft and were the soldiers who fought on the ground during the height of the Vietnam War in the 1960s.

Younger Boomers (born 1953–1964) were teenagers or younger during the majority of the conflict. By the time the draft lottery was introduced in 1969 and the draft ended in 1973, many were still too young to serve.

Overall, roughly 10 percent of all Baby Boomer men served in the U.S. armed forces, with millions actively deployed to Southeast Asia.

God bless them.

Posted by: Hunter's brain, off drugs at July 17, 2026 02:29 PM (NFX2v)

430 423 James Madison didn't serve in the military, therefore he was a bad person and a bad president.

Did command an artillery battle during the War of 1812, though, while he was president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:28 PM
******
Young Washington is a good movie, by the way. Recommend.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (2Ez/1)

431 F-105 Thunderchief. Called the "Thud" after the sound it made hitting the ground

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (OXYE0)

432 381 Saw a trailer recently for a movie about Jimmy Stewart and the war. Might be good.

https://youtu.be/EURriesRel0
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (2Ez/1)

WOW

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (6wpGE)

433
Fine.

But I want an option on all my frequent Florida flights on United, even direct ones, to change to or add a stop at Trump International.

Fair is fair.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (BI5O2)

434 >>> All drafts at all times are mostly a stimulus for people to enlist on their own to get a spot they like better (and not always be safe from deployment - Nat Guard units went into the Pacific from the start.)
Posted by: Oldcat at July 17, 2026 02:24 PM (uhVAy)

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My dad is his next younger brother were drafted. The 3rd brother (and youngest) enlisted and became a Ranger. He got artillery because he was good with math. At least that's what my brother told me.

Posted by: Turn 2 at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (Y2/Vj)

435 431 Young Washington is a good movie, by the way. Recommend.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 17, 2026 02:30 PM (2Ez/1)

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And yet, it doesn't contain the true story of what happened when he went to Fort Laboeuf.

See the real story here!

https://amzn.to/4vxynjt

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (PIaQL)

436 Yeah, I always suspected that "In the Flesh?" was Waters confession about his own power-tripping before he reflected that something about rock concerts is "deeply fascist".

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 02:31 PM (Fi81e)

437 384 TJM

They already DID rise up. 30,000 or so dead.

That anti-regime hatred is still there. Iran hanged a woman today-- one of the protest leaders. This is a first.

I wouldn't encourage my own kids to protest against Iran's regime if they were Iranian, bc they hang people. We know that.

If there was a safe area in Iranian Kurdish territory, that might change the risk calculus.

Posted by: mnw at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (RCjYY)

438 Your kids are in good hands.

https://tinyurl.com/4tft589r

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at July 17, 2026 02:32 PM (ndZc7)

439 So after he tackled mental illness in Dark Side of the Moon (Syd Barrett)
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L.S.D., not mental illness. Huge bodycount, actually. One of the original Fleetwood Mac members never came down after getting dosed in Germany. Lennon’s cheese slipped off his cracker, Brian Jones, and Brian Wilson was reduced to wandering around in his bathrobe everywhere

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:34 PM (2/ueB)

440 Only 12% of the male population served in WW II.

Posted by: Math at July 17, 2026 02:36 PM (7wXA5)

441 439 So after he tackled mental illness in Dark Side of the Moon (Syd Barrett)
——-

L.S.D., not mental illness. Huge bodycount, actually. One of the original Fleetwood Mac members never came down after getting dosed in Germany. Lennon’s cheese slipped off his cracker, Brian Jones, and Brian Wilson was reduced to wandering around in his bathrobe everywhere
Posted by: Common Tater
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Actually it was mental illness. Syd Barrett whether he fried his brain on LSD. other drugs, or whether he used it to treat whatever mental problems he had actually showed up at the lengthy recording sessions for Dark Side.

He was unrecognizable to the rest of the band from the Syd they all knew. The link between mental illness and drug usage is slippery and depends on just what drug and what their preexisting,usually unknown, mental issues were.

Add in the pressure of public performing, constant requirements of the biz to do promos, record more songs, make hits, ego development from being worshipped, etc., is not the best environment for healthy living. Bad Finger had two suicides in part based on such stress and a real villain as manager.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (E4rtv)

442 Say what you want about my White House tour of duty, but I was a nuke.
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False. Carter was not a nuke or a boomer or anything like that. He did some radiation contamination cleanup. He was a fucking dunce as president.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:39 PM (2/ueB)

443 The link between mental illness and drug usage is slippery and depends on just what drug and what their preexisting,usually unknown, mental issues were.
——-

Don’t take my word for it. But, yeah. It was the Acid

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (2/ueB)

444 436 Yeah, I always suspected that "In the Flesh?" was Waters confession about his own power-tripping before he reflected that something about rock concerts is "deeply fascist".
Posted by: Axeman

Probably so. It led Pete Townshend to several nervous breakdowns and his Punk and Godfather song on Quadrophenia directly addresses it.

Stones did It's Only Rock and Roll for similar reasons after Brian Jones and then Mick Taylor imploded.

A birdseye view, that sometimes lacks the details that we crave, is Soundman by legendary sound engineer and producer Glyn Johns. He notes the issues carefully with working with so many bands and keeps it ground to avoid making broader assertions about the stars he worked with. By doing so, he avoided any legal hassles from those still living.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:43 PM (E4rtv)

445 Don’t take my word for it. But, yeah. It was the Acid
Posted by: Common Tater
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Have you ever listened to Pink Floyd's first album? Piper's at the Gates of Dawn, Syd's girlfriend on the minor hit of See Emily Play notes that it was about the name of a future hoped for child of the two, not from drugs. Brian Jones dabbled in psychedelics but combined them with uppers and downers and alcohol. Like Keith Moon, Brian took everything and anything.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 02:47 PM (E4rtv)

446 I also gave service to the USA also............

I was a Soldier in the War on Global Warming with Sir Albert Gore of Globalwarmington..

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at July 17, 2026 03:01 PM (J1l9E)

Trump: There Is Evidence of a Massive Chinese Effort to Compromise America's Voting Rolls -- But the Deep State Covered It Up

This is treason.

And the death penalty should be on the table.

There was a lot in last night's speech. I'm going to break it up into two posts.

First -- this post -- about what China did.

Second -- in another post -- about treasonous US "intelligence" operatives covering it up to protect their Chinese pals -- and aid and abet China's efforts to influence our elections in the Democrats' favor -- and thus to interfere in the election themselves.

The president said the People's Republic of China (PRC) illicitly acquired a whopping 220 million U.S. voter files through "what is believed to be the largest compromise of election data in history."

"That information includes names, addresses, phone numbers, political party preferences, and other sensitive data that would be needed to register to vote and engage in other nefarious activities, which is exactly what was happening," Trump said.

"This data loss presents an unprecedented election security nightmare. The intelligence even shows that China assigned a data exploitation unit specifically to this new project," he added.

Trump said another key area of concern is a "deep state" cover-up of the extent of China's meddling.

The third set of documents "proves that for many years Americans were blatantly lied to about the security of our election infrastructure, including electronic voting machines and ballot counting systems, dishonest almost all," the president said, adding:

They're vulnerable and they're easily compromised, and people within our government knew that. Tonight, we're publishing a series of previously classified U.S. intelligence community assessments and other reports proving that our government has long known these machines are extremely exposed to attack. As one assessment states, we judge that the United States adversaries, including at a minimum Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, as well as non-state groups, have the capability to compromise U.S. election infrastructure.

Trump said documents "show the CIA obtained reporting of a specific plot to do a big number in favor of the corrupt Maduro regime in Venezuela, and that's exactly what happened, conspiring to digitally rig their own country's elections in 2020, and that's what they did."

The fourth set shows "significant evidence of fraud" was "buried and covered up," Trump said, pointing to "FBI files detailing evidence of alleged fraud by a large-scale voter registration operation in Michigan."

He added:

In 2020, Michigan State Police raided a Democrat Get Out the Vote organization, corrupt group, in Muskegon, and were so concerned by what they found ... that they contacted the FBI in Detroit. The documents state that some canvassers admitted to FBI agents that they signed voter registration forms in other people's names, submitted fraudulent registration for people who did not exist, and received gift cards tied to their number of applications that they produced. In other words, it was pay, play, and cheat.

The final area of documents is a release of a Department of Homeland Security investigation, which uncovered hundreds of thousands of noncitizens registered to vote in federal elections, he said:

According to the DHS review, state voter rolls, and public records, they identified approximately 278,000 non-citizens who are registered to vote in federal elections. Since Democrat states refuse to share their voter files, the real number is actually much higher than that. Yet, even this limited analysis found more than a quarter of a million foreigners illegally registered to vote.

The president added that the information he detailed throughout the address shows "an election system so broken and so vulnerable that no one can possibly defend it"

He also said, accurately, that you would only defend this broken system if you had the intention of cheating in elections.

There was election interference by a hostile foreign power.

But that power was not Russia, as the Democrat cover story had it.

That power was China, interfering in our elections in favor of Joe Biden, just as they interfered in the 1992 and 1996 elections in favor of Bill Clinton.

"As the documents we are releasing show, CIA reporting explicitly stated, 'in mid-2018, the Chinese communist party's policy was to leverage all domestic and foreign elements that were opposed to the U.S. president in an effort to reduce the U.S. president's votes, and make him resign or prevent his reelection," he said.

The president further alleged that China meddled in the 2018 mid-term elections and the 2020 elections, adding that China sought to undermine domestic confidence in the U.S. president during the year 2019.

At least one "CIA Note" posted to the White House website said that China had accessed data from the 2015 presidential elections.

"China was working to influence the results of the U.S. mid-term elections, and later the resuits of the 2020 U.S. Presidential elections," it said. "As part of this campaign, China was analyzing the 2015 U.S. Presidential elections and identifying U.S. states who voted for the U.S. President."

"The Chinese would then identify sectors within these states that voted to support the U.S. President's political party, and would attempt to make these sectors experience negative financial consequences by levying tariffs on exports to China from those sectors," it added. "The Chinese hoped that these measures would induce representatives from these sectors to lobby the U.S. President."



Steve Robinson
@SteveRob

My top lines from President Trump's election document release so far:

Homeland Security says more than 250,000 noncitizens were illegally registered to vote in California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Nevada alone.

In Michigan, FBI database checks on 107 voter registration applications found 91 with no matching person in government records.

An unevaluated FBI report from Albany claimed China made fake U.S. driver's licenses to enable mail-in votes for Biden.

A CIA note on 2018--2020 reporting says China's goal was to stop President Trump from winning reelection. Other documents show this reporting was "massaged" in order to mislead POTUS.

Declassified tables describe roughly 204 million U.S. voter records among datasets held or possessed by Chinese actors. Documents note these records could be used to request absentee ballots in the names of low propensity voters.

Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) found many state and local election office networks so poorly secured that its testers could take full control in hours or days.

A Michigan witness told the FBI canvassers were paid with debit cards to register phony voters and said the operation seemed aimed at suppressing votes for President Trump.

The Michigan FBI registration-fraud case ran about four years before prosecutors declined charges, with long delays at the Justice Department. The case suggests the Biden Admin was deliberating thwarting investigations into pro-Biden election fraud, much as investigations into Hillary Clinton were slow-walked or killed prior to 2016.

A federal threat paper says China breached state voter registration systems and that stolen data can be used later to request absentee ballots or change voter rolls.

TL;DR - Foreign regimes targeted American elections to stop President Trump, and the Biden Admin greatly strengthened those efforts.


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:10 PM




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1 Not first, but I checked first to see if anyone nooded.

Posted by: the lower depths at July 17, 2026 12:10 PM (Yh7zv)

2 howdy

Posted by: doug at July 17, 2026 12:11 PM (B1+sW)

3 None Dare Call It Treason!

Except now, there are so many facts being laid out, it is the only logical conclusion. (and/or "Insurrection")

Posted by: illiniwek at July 17, 2026 12:11 PM (vbXSk)

4 Magaret Brennan isn't even that old, and she already looks like a victim of plastic surgery. Also, that white outfit does NOT work on her.

Posted by: the lower depths at July 17, 2026 12:11 PM (Yh7zv)

5 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 12:12 PM (0CVPB)

6 And the "media's"takeaway is that there is no proof, Trump is an election denier, and he is gonna try to steal the midterms...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:12 PM (3iJWA)

7 Apparently, ABC didn't cover the speech, but they interrupted programming afterwards to tell you what they thought of it.

I'm leery about too much FCC pressure, but that sounds like a case for it.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:12 PM (Fi81e)

8 CA, NY, and MN Electoral College votes need to be decertified.

As a start.

And cut off all Federal funding.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 12:13 PM (2GVsD)

9 But what about Medicare for all?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 12:13 PM (Cqx++)

10 Suspected this happened since voter fraud in 2020
Boxes of fake ballots were processed in many states

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2026 12:13 PM (0CVPB)

11 And the "media's"takeaway is that there is no proof, Trump is an election denier, and he is gonna try to steal the midterms...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:12 PM (3iJWA)

I actually like the "stolen election" narrative on their side. A lot of us have been complaining about blackpillers on our side for years. If the left is convinced they are going to lose because they get "cheated", they will work less and whine more. I am fine with that.

Posted by: the lower depths at July 17, 2026 12:14 PM (Yh7zv)

12 Does anybody remember when Dems practically wanted your execution for "siding with Russia"?

Simply for not believing that the "Russians INVADED our elections" (that were completely unriggable in June when Trump mentioned that idea!!)

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:14 PM (Fi81e)

13 When we were investigating Chinese cannabis cartels, a source told me that he witnessed one of the higher level operatives flipping through a binder full of New York drivers licenses.

When they needed a new identity for a cartel member, they�d just search the binder. pic.twitter.com/A0wpkl9Lk6

===

there is so much there

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:14 PM (GD0B3)

14 And Congress needs to revoke the concept of Motor Voter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 12:14 PM (2GVsD)

15 I don't really care Margaret.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 12:15 PM (3uBP9)

16 Wow, Maggie's looking pretty rough there.

Guess being a ChiCom shill really takes it out of you.

Posted by: far cry at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (fmbc9)

17 Never forget that Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst allowed Beijing access to all military security clearances.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (2GVsD)

18 If no one is prosecuted and no one goes to jail, this is all moot. Bad stuff, but moot. It has to be handled like the border, with actions, arrests, deportations.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (GD0B3)

19 “This is treason”

Incidentally, so is importing illegal aliens by the millions in a “democracy”. Weird, huh?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (8fTKG)

20 Clark Gable, "Frankly Margaret, I don't give a damn."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (2GVsD)

21 Add all that in with the deep state shenanigans from the russia collusion hoax and domestic political spying and you see how massive this whole corrupt thing is.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (n5tGW)

22 Death penalty - can I do it?

I'll bring my own axe. It's old and not that sharp.
But that's alright.

MS Now and CBS BOTH cut into the middle of the President's speech last night to tell their retarded viewers what they should be thinking.

Seriously,

THAT WAS INSANE!

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (Sco7b)

23 But clowns like Senator Murkowski are still fine trying to kill the SAVE act because Trump said pussy.

That's way more important than China compromising our entire democracy.

Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (Bjzmv)

24 Does anyone remember when Jimmy Carter celebrated the Venezuelan elections as the model for the free world?

This was continually reported prior and after that time by the CIA that there were severe issues and shortcomings by the government of Venezuela in ensuring honest elections.
The procedures "speculated" on by the CIA seem to have bearing on the recent oddities in US elections.

I do not wish ill on people, and painful death is not something I hope for anyone, but I do not regret Jimmah's death nor his indignity in being wheeled around like a trophy by the Dems.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (rbvCR)

25 The media didn't need to watch the speech... They had their responses to it already written...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (3iJWA)

26 And the "media's"takeaway is that there is no proof, Trump is an election denier, and he is gonna try to steal the midterms...

Posted by: It's me donna



I could have written this verbatim in 2025.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (Riz8t)

27 No indictments, no news.

Show me something tangible, not just another document dump.

Hell, throw out the Chinese ambassador as persona non grata and tell the Chinese in very clear terms using little words to stop giving us causus belli.

DO SOMETHING. Doc dumps don't move the meter. At all.

*signed*
fed-up filbert

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (p9Pe7)

28 Defunding is the only way to have an impact.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (afJtY)

29 We need two things. Hearings and hangings.

Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (8jVAy)

30 There was no cheating in elections. -- Democrats
Good enough for me. They'd never lie. -- GOPe

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (ExV1e)

31 Not to mention the covid all mail in ballot scam.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 12:19 PM (n5tGW)

32 The New York Times characterizes the Trump speech as replete with false election claims that "carry a cost for democracy." But 81.3 million votes for the addlepated, incontinent asshole Biden is simply impossible.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 12:19 PM (2ap+5)

33 If only Comrade GOP had known.

Posted by: connected and litigious at July 17, 2026 12:19 PM (cS1cw)

34 Jimmy Carter and Hugo Chavez are presently sharing a flaming barbed cock.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 12:19 PM (2GVsD)

35 The PRC's whole "let's you and him fight" maneuver to try to keep us focused on the Russians rather than real problems is...sadly effective.

Let's be clear, I'm not saying "We should be buddies with the Rooskies". They aren't are friends, and even if they were they really wouldn't be that helpful in most respects right now, all things considered. But it's like the stage magician keeping you from watching what he's doing with endless distractions.

Not that it may do China that much good in the long term, but it may buy them some breathing space.

Anyway, we're officially out of "we can politics our way out of this" excuses at this stage. Not that some won't try.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 17, 2026 12:19 PM (OUMaO)

36 But the TV said Trump was making this claim "falsely"

Posted by: brak at July 17, 2026 12:19 PM (sCxmP)

37 Our friends. Aren't our friends. Holy crap I can't even comment in proper Americanglish anymore. FML, I am going downhill.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 17, 2026 12:20 PM (OUMaO)

38 DO SOMETHING. Doc dumps don't move the meter. At all.

*signed*
fed-up filbert
Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (p9Pe7)

What you said....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:20 PM (3iJWA)

39 >>> We need two things. Hearings and hangings.
Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (8jVAy)


Don't forget the fun part in the middle!

Posted by: tarring and feathering at July 17, 2026 12:20 PM (3uBP9)

40 about treasonous US "intelligence" operatives covering it up to protect their Chinese pals

We have George W. Bush to thank for this.

After the worst intelligence failure in American history on 9/11, the "intelligence community" steeled itself for the mass firings that obviously were going to take place, along with the root-and-branch restructuring of the "agencies" that was obviously needed.

And what happened?

Nothing. Nobody lost their job over this. The intelligence bureaucracies continued as before.

This convinced the "intelligence community" that they were bulletproof- that they could do anything they wanted to do without consequence.

All our problems with the "intelligence community" over the last twenty-five years are downstream from this.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2026 12:20 PM (u6/wt)

41 I don’t get annoyed by talking heads very often, they aren’t worth my energy. But the smugness in this clip of Ms. Margaret is annoying. Or maybe I am annoyed by her really bad haircut- good heavens, girl, who did this to you? Get thee a little bit of an a-line, and let your hair grow past your chin line. Otherwise your entire head looks like a potato.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (Dd38x)

42 So the states have given more voter roll access to the Chinese government than the Federal government.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (DbmIv)

43 Add all that in with the deep state shenanigans from the russia collusion hoax and domestic political spying and you see how massive this whole corrupt thing is.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (n5tGW)
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I'm on my 6th year of not rejecting conspiracy theories outright.

That said: they cheated Nixon the first go round, and then they took him out after a 49-state landslide.

And I don't love Nixon. But it's almost certain the Deep State took him out. Created Watergate, because Republicans wanted to be more responsible to the voters than the DC machine (I'd guess).

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (Fi81e)

44 >>>>>> We need two things. Hearings and hangings.

Best we can do is hearings and a strongly-worded letter

Posted by: GOP Senate at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (sCxmP)

45
*blah, blah*

... An increasing unhinged President Trump unleashed another volley of baseless charges...

*blah, blah*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (flEsB)

46 220 million is practically every voter.
Single day in person voting with ID is the only way to impact this.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (n5tGW)

47 Listen to the bravado she gives the Chinese while she reads: "China has never and will never interfere in a the presidential elections of a the United States."

For the record Russia repeatedly said they don't interfere in American elections as well...the FNM just covered it as "of course election interfering foreigners would say that...their denial is almost proof itself!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 12:22 PM (sKqQm)

48 Deep Throat was an embittered Deep State toady.

And the press hated Nixon's guts.

So the perfect narrative for a lynching.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 12:22 PM (2GVsD)

49 But we'll fix all this by voting harder? Horseshit. Suits will be filed, evidence presented and the judiciary will rule in the corruption's favor.

More severe methods are going to be needed here.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (jehhT)

50 no, it wasn't china it was russia!!

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (CWTWj)

51 And what happened?

Nothing. Nobody lost their job over this. The intelligence bureaucracies continued as before.


The biggest fallout from 9/11 was Muslim immigration +100000% for some reason

Posted by: brak at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (sCxmP)

52 ... An increasing unhinged President Trump unleashed another volley of baseless charges...

The Democrats now claim the 2024, 2016, 2004, 2000, and 1980 elections were all stolen with no evidence whatsoever to back them up

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (sKqQm)

53
House hearings aren't enough!

We need Senate hearings to go total phoney balcony do nothing.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (Y8DZL)

54 All this crap makes me believe COVID was an op to take out Trump.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (W2Pud)

55 And Newsom said it was "The Ramblings of a mad King "and the 25th Amendment should be called up...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:24 PM (3iJWA)

56 Speaking of being in the service of China, where is the Turtle and his wife?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 12:24 PM (2GVsD)

57 Brennen needs to be replaced by a younger, hotter biological female. A woman of color would be cool. Skimpy clothes. Nice boobs.

If I'm going to be lied to, there may as well be something in it for me.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 12:24 PM (Sco7b)

58 “This is treason”

Incidentally, so is importing illegal aliens by the millions in a “democracy”. Weird, huh?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (8fTKG)
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Sedition.

Treason is defined in the Constitution and limited.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:24 PM (Fi81e)

59 The left: Any claim non citizens vote in our elections is false.

Also the left: Of course we have to give undocumented immigrants drivers licenses...and...send voter registration forms to everyone with a drivers license

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 12:25 PM (sKqQm)

60 I find it impossible to care about this. If I did, it would just amount to despair.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 17, 2026 12:25 PM (tgl2u)

61 >>> 220 million is practically every voter.
Single day in person voting with ID is the only way to impact this.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (n5tGW)


Yeah man, somebody should do something!

Posted by: your feckless gop blocking SAVE at July 17, 2026 12:25 PM (3uBP9)

62 let your hair grow past your chin line. Otherwise your entire head looks like a potato

Wow. Once you've seen it, you can't unsee it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:26 PM (Riz8t)

63 25 The media didn't need to watch the speech... They had their responses to it already written...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM

We talked about this before the speech. It wouldn’t matter what was said, they cannot come off this narrative. This wasn’t going to open anyone’s eyes. We are so balkanized, and the media is living on the other Balkan with the left, so there will be no minds changed. This is a scary time and I wish Trump was just a smidge of the dictator they all claim him to be.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:26 PM (Dd38x)

64 Seems like a blog screwup starting near the signature of it's me Donna

Looks like somehow their is a bug causing the blog to eat comments. Garret's comment appears in Donna's sig. Not saying she's at fault; simply point out the locality of the weirdness.

Garrett had some earlier comments eaten. Maybe it's a feature not a bug.

Posted by: meh at July 17, 2026 12:27 PM (zZxsY)

65 62 >>> 220 million is practically every voter.
Single day in person voting with ID is the only way to impact this.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (n5tGW)


Yeah man, somebody should do something!
Posted by: your feckless gop blocking SAVE at July 17, 2026 12:25 PM (3uBP9)

And it looks like today they are digging there heels in deeper to stop it's passage...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:27 PM (3iJWA)

66 Meanwhile, Israel is making up for its intelligence failures against Hamas:

In an attack in Nuseirat, "The Commanding Mujahed" Taher Abd al-Wahid was eliminated today. He joins his 3 brothers who were eliminated in the past.

...and the plot twist:

Unusual incident:
IDF attacked now a group of terrorists at his funeral. 6 dead so far.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2026 12:27 PM (u6/wt)

67 We need two things. Hearings and hangings.

Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (8jVAy)

With an intermission of shotgun pinata and Pinochet skeet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (S41Gd)

68 And not just regular hearings, but sleeveless hearings!

Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (8jVAy)

69 We're gonna need MOAR lampposts!

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (KBK+H)

70 >>> Get thee a little bit of an a-line, and let your hair grow past your chin line. Otherwise your entire head looks like a potato.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (Dd38x)


That's so hot.

Posted by: Brian Stelter at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (3uBP9)

71 Yeah man, somebody should do something!
Posted by: your feckless gop blocking SAVE at July 17, 2026 12:25 PM (3uBP9)

And it looks like today they are digging there heels in deeper to stop it's passage...


This could be a career killer for Thune if he STILL refuses to engage with the SAVE Act.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

72 Nobody cares. Trump's speech means nothing. Nobody cares. Not on the big stage, in the macro.

Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 12:24 PM (AoR1V)
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That's not the way things have been working for Trump.

Trump states his claim, the media call him all sorts of name, but the Lord orchestrates the events, and the truth about who is lying to them gradually seeps down to people who are willing to question what they thought they knew.

In the past, Trump would make a bombastic statement just so the media would highlight what he said, any number of times when the attention of the people was turned to it by the apoplexy of the media, more and more people would conclude that Trump was closer to the truth than the media.

I fully believe that Trump was directing the media's attention by their inability to control their outrage.

Now, the spotlight is on China. We can wait and see what the Lord will do with that.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (Fi81e)

73 We need two things. Hearings and hangings.

Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (8jVAy)

---------

You left out Waterboardings.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:29 PM (KBK+H)

74 Hearings with perps in a glass box!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 17, 2026 12:29 PM (n5tGW)

75 The media didn't need to watch the speech... They had their responses to it already written...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM
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Just like Trump's obituary on July 9th, it seems.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (Fi81e)

76 There is no WIDESPREAD espionage and interference. It's just one country.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (/bHKT)

77 Hearings with perps in a glass box!

Air holes verboten.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (Riz8t)

78 Speaking of being in the service of China, where is the Turtle and his wife?

I'm feeling better, and I don't want to go on the cart!

Just because I'm incapable of releasing a thirty-second video talking about current events doesn't mean that I'm dead!

Posted by: Mitch, Pining For The Fijords! at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (u6/wt)

79 We're gonna need MOAR lampposts!

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (KBK+H)

That's why I favor the field of the impaled. We got the space, and wood poles are cheap.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (S41Gd)

80 Nobody cares. Trump's speech means nothing. Nobody cares. Not on the big stage, in the macro.

This is largely true. If it ends with a speech and some document dumps.

Nothing will change until people go to jail.

But I hope, and honestly do expect, that Trump has that underway as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (sKqQm)

81 14 And Congress needs to revoke the concept of Motor Voter.
Posted by: Anna Puma
=====
Yep. But states could still do cheating even without the motor voter aka NVRA and did.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (E4rtv)

82 With an intermission of shotgun pinata and Pinochet skeet.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


I like the term Screaming Lawn Darts myself.

(Now waiting for the inevitable I saw Screaming Lawn Darts open for- remark.)

Posted by: NR Pax at July 17, 2026 12:30 PM (99eI0)

83 We need two things. Hearings and hangings.

Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (8jVAy)


Swift justice and slow executions!

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (GD0B3)

84 My Gawd ... this really is a combination of Trump and Old Republican. We'll just make a speech, and all the sudden everything will change.

I won't say "don't know why he bothered" because I know EXACTLY why he bothered. The Old Man doesn't understand how things work now. He doesn't understand that things have changed. Have been changed for decades.


Your concern is:

[X] Noted
[ ] Not noted

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (Riz8t)

85 Wouldn't 220 million voter files be pretty much *all* of them?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (lFFaq)

86 of course Dems are compromised:

1. illary's financial deals w China were exposed on 2015. No one cared.


2. Joey B (thru son Cunter) was exposed with the Seneca Rosemont stuff. No one cared.

Posted by: free at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (yPEqT)

87 I am disappointed that we are not waking up to Footage of Overnight Raids and Frog Marches.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (uzmqU)

88 New day, New handle for the man of many handles, I see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (guLpK)

89 This could be a career killer for Thune if he STILL refuses to engage with the SAVE Act.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

-------------

Yeah, it might limit his career to the length of Cocaine Glitch McConnell's.

/sorry Archimedes, couldn't resist ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (KBK+H)

90 Dems 2017: AMERICA WAS **ATTACKED**!!!

... by Facebook ads!!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (Fi81e)

91 Will anything happen?

Posted by: Because I've often heard Nothing Will at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (2Ez/1)

92 Lot of chatter about Gallego in Arizona. Women coming forward in same sense as Salawell and Planter?

Posted by: Jonah at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (gwrBY)

93 China usually has to pay a lot for this type of propaganda amplification
pay a lot for this type of propaganda amplification
this type of propaganda amplification
type of propaganda amplification
propaganda amplification
propaganda amplification
propaganda amplification

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (xHEjv)

94 The Senate has paid zero price for blocking Trump's ability to make recess appointments. I assume they feel they will pay no price for blocking the SAVE Act, as they continue their policy of riding out Trump until it's back to business as usual.

But hopefully they are wrong.

Posted by: brak at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (sCxmP)

95 ... and no one will be held accountable.

But maybe Trump will manage to get the dems to cool it for a bit. Maybe clean elections for 2028.

Posted by: you're in hell, the world ended at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (Lqp/b)

96 A guy I worked with once told me don't throw the turd on the table unless you have a proposal to clean it up.

All I heard about last night was that there's a big turd on the table; several turds actually. No mention of the names of the persons who ran the agencies who were derelict or seditious, and certainly no proposals to clean the turds off the table.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (3Ope8)

97 Sleeveless hearings should necessarily lead to denunciations!

Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (8jVAy)

98 Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM

Everytime he comes on here he uses "old man" to refer to Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (guLpK)

99 We have George W. Bush to thank for this.

After the worst intelligence failure in American history on 9/11, the "intelligence community" steeled itself for the mass firings that obviously were going to take place, along with the root-and-branch restructuring of the "agencies" that was obviously needed.

And what happened?

Nothing. Nobody lost their job over this. The intelligence bureaucracies continued as before.


The elder George Bush had been CIA Director before becoming Reagan's VP.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (ExV1e)

100 All this crap makes me believe COVID was an op to take out Trump.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (W2Pud)


It’s taken you this long to fit the puzzle pieces together? Well, welcome to the party!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (tWxgu)

101 We are in some seriously deep shit.
This demonstrates an intense and long-term operation to essentially seize control of the US. Deep staters and foreign governments working together. They would keep us ignorant and continue to feed us "bread and circus" (keep us ignorant) until such time as they had control of all the organs of government. Then, they take control, eliminating any opposition.
But! But! Diogenes, it can't happen here!!!
Bull. It absolutely can and thanks to President Trump, it has been stopped, for now. (I hope)
It's no wonder they have tried to kill him.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (2WIwB)

102
Hangings and more hangings

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (s9VOe)

103 63 let your hair grow past your chin line. Otherwise your entire head looks like a potato

Wow. Once you've seen it, you can't unsee it.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:26 PM (Riz8t)

I really should get paid more for my advice. 🤣

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (Dd38x)

104 I fully believe that Trump was directing the media's attention by their inability to control their outrage.

Now, the spotlight is on China. We can wait and see what the Lord will do with that.
Posted by: Axeman
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I would surmise you are correct and a lot of what can be done can be done by CISA for example decertifying voting machines that have outside modems, etc. That means they cannot be used in elections so another means has to be used.

Iran is a counter example where the stupid TACO crap came back to bite a lot of people including some here on the ass. Tariffs too.

Watch what Trump does as much as what he says.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (E4rtv)

105 Yeah, it might limit his career to the length of Cocaine Glitch McConnell's.

/sorry Archimedes, couldn't resist ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels!


No worries. I can take criticism.
*makes note of ShainS in "the list"*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (Riz8t)

106 “You can’t hug children with secure elections.”

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (XjfpJ)

107 This might be Trump's push to get the Save Act passed NOW. He knows that 2/3 of Americans want Voter ID. He is putting Senate holdouts on the spot.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (GD0B3)

108 Election policy has been driven exclusively by the notion that there are millions of eligible people being kept from voting.

Of course not one such person has ever been identified.

And even with the media/Democrats covering for any and all voter fraud we have thousands of cases in recent years.

Yes they do the Motte and Bailey thing and switch from arguing "there is no election fraud" to "there isn't enough election fraud to change election results" when pressed but...there should be ANY voter fraud allowed to occur

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (sKqQm)

109 Nothing will change until people go to jail bodies are found floating in the Potomac.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 17, 2026 12:34 PM (tgl2u)

110 "All this crap makes me believe COVID was an op to take out Trump."

Correct, it's obvious. "Trillions at stake", is not just a catchy line.

Posted by: connected and litigious at July 17, 2026 12:34 PM (cS1cw)

111
Kristen Walker and Margaret Brennan hosting a debate between Elissa Slotkin and Haley Stevens might.be the safest alternative to chemical castration.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 12:34 PM (Y8DZL)

112 I have always believed that The Wuhan virus was used by the CCP to crush the Umbrella Uprising in Hong Kong, and to partner with their fellow travelers in the Democrat party (led by Comrade Nancy Pelosi) to try and defeat Trump in the 2020 election.
The need to (illegally, according to many of the state constitutions) use ballot harvesting due to “social distancing” was the biggest cheat in that election. Nancy’s nephew Gavin did a trial run for her in California during the 2018 mid-terms, to flip Orange County from red to blue. Recall that she also demanded that Trump’s impeachment in 2019 had to happen before Christmas, in order to get the trial in the Senate done as soon as possible, yet then once the House impeached, she slow-walked it to the Senate, taking 31 days to deliver the Articles there…
The Chinese certainly knew that the Wuhan was spreading, and certainly knew that they had exported it to the US, with hundreds of thousands of Chinese already in the US (especially the West Coast) via direct flights out of Wuhan…
It is possible (if not probable) that she plotted to allow the Wuhan to take root in order to “necessitate” an “emergency” for the November election…

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at July 17, 2026 12:34 PM (DzC+b)

113 I'd like to know how many of the 278,000 actually voted versus just being registered.

Posted by: WisRich at July 17, 2026 12:34 PM (G0vdT)

114 89 I am disappointed that we are not waking up to Footage of Overnight Raids and Frog Marches.

Posted by: garrett
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They've got to nail the judges first.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (xHEjv)

115 Wouldn't 220 million voter files be pretty much *all* of them?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (lFFaq)

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I said the same thing to The Wifey last night while we watched.

* searches interwebz *

"In the 2024 U.S. presidential election, there were approximately 174 million registered voters, while 154 million people actually cast ballots."

Of course, in 2020 we jokingly claim -- despite it being true in many areas -- that there were actually more "voters" than registered voters ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (KBK+H)

116 When they needed a new identity for a cartel member, they’d just search the binder

I'll give you an example of the devil-may-care attitude the government has with your information.

While I was still working for Xerox, we had the county of Miami-Dade DMV submit a bug report for our software they were using. Included with the report was a PDF file that contained the complete, unredacted information of every licensed driver in the county. I was utterly shocked by this. We had an overall mandate to safeguard this kind of info, but there was no formal process in place for doing so.

Posted by: Halfhand at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (cA62d)

117 Wouldn't 220 million voter files be pretty much *all* of them?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (lFFaq)


If you can control the rolls, you can invent people, if only for the duration of the election.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (2WIwB)

118 Posted by: Sid at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (0qg6L)

F' off troll

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:36 PM (3iJWA)

119 Now, the spotlight is on China. We can wait and see what the Lord will do with that.

Slick - are you really down with Angels Will Save Us ? Really ?

That's rhetorical. Of course you are. Other people might want to rethink Angels Will Save Us.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (AoR1V)
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Gee, I'll stop stopping them from coming to their own opinion then!!

Immediately, I'll cease my mind control ray.

There, it's off.

Actually, I don't know if "Angels will save us" or not. I'm only talking about the observed pattern of events that have lead us to the possibility to the Dems not taking a midterm election, when the Pubs seem to be trying their best to throw it to them.

Imagine the egg on my face when rampant godlessness leads to near complete secular betrayal of fundamental concepts of our republic!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:36 PM (Fi81e)

120 Morning.

Guys, if the Chicoms said they didn't interfere why that's good enough for me.

In other news I'm being told there's hot single milfs in my area looking for love. Hit damn, it's my lucky day!

Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2026 12:36 PM (dpXJq)

121 GOP Senators are still the only ones in our tent, who still give a damn about what WAPO and the Nytimes think, and those at the Georgetown Cocktail parties. That is the problem right there

Posted by: Jonah at July 17, 2026 12:36 PM (gwrBY)

122 You would think there's be a mob of patriots at the Capitol ala J6 demanding this be addressed. Seriously. But there's not.

J6 scared the congressional weasels so bad that it'd be difficult for the public to assemble and demand redress for this sort of shit. But they've been conditioned not to.

Even a singular reporter inside the Capitol asking hard questions is shoved away so as to not agitate someone in Congress. Even the entire region around the capitol city is infested with leftists... as protection from anyone examining the actual goings on there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 12:36 PM (jehhT)

123 They've got to nail the judges first.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (xHEjv)

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"Nail, you mean, like, with a hammer?"

/obligatory Hillary and Paul Pelosi

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:37 PM (KBK+H)

124 China is asshoe

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

125 =====
Yep. But states could still do cheating even without the motor voter aka NVRA and did.

Posted by: whig
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It's like defense of property. Every little thing to deter the criminal helps.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:37 PM (xHEjv)

126 Welker is a beast, Brennan is a babe

Posted by: Jonah at July 17, 2026 12:37 PM (gwrBY)

127 99 A guy I worked with once told me don't throw the turd on the table unless you have a proposal to clean it up.

All I heard about last night was that there's a big turd on the table; several turds actually. No mention of the names of the persons who ran the agencies who were derelict or seditious, and certainly no proposals to clean the turds off the table.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
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Politics does not work that way--you have to prep people for what you do--basically tell them, tell them so more, and tell them again. Politics on important matters where sides are dug in is more like using speeches combined with action for a Time on Target approach of a rolling artillery barrage. It is not a one and done matter.

And that is because people, especially older people, get stuck in what they claim to know because acknowledging otherwise is to mean that they were stupid, manipulated, and cheated.

Ego doesn't allow a lot of people to do that absent an assault on what they believe to be true that is so massive it overcomes the defenses that what these people know to be true is actually false.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:38 PM (E4rtv)

128
All I heard about last night was that there's a big turd on the table; several turds actually. No mention of the names of the persons who ran the agencies who were derelict or seditious, and certainly no proposals to clean the turds off the table.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (3Ope

Tragically, you are correct.
In some respects it almost makes you want Trump to move on because we are light years beyond complaining and expecting anybody to do anything. Trump either directs HIS people to take specific actions or just drop it. He( we) cannot win going forward unless Trump becomes FAR more involved and directive. Jawboning sounds good and is essentially worthless in the current situation. TELL people to do things and tell us that you told them to do. Name and take action on those who don't follow direct orders. Quit f'in whining.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at July 17, 2026 12:38 PM (5A5PV)

129 President Trump said tonight the CCP's operations obtained 220 million voter records.

... and the DOJ has been in court trying to get voter records of some "blue states".
Perhaps President Xi can help.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:38 PM (RHGPo)

130 “You can’t hug children with secure elections.”
Posted by: Cray Cray at July 17, 2026 12:33 PM (XjfpJ)
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Nor with "Our Democracy", so what's the point? (Not to you, to the cray-cray people who would say that shit.)

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:38 PM (Fi81e)

131 Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 12:29 PM (AoR1V)

Would you, then, describe Trump as a big poopyhead?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 12:39 PM (ExV1e)

132 You can never let your guard down with the Left. They are always plotting evil.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 12:39 PM (/WQyy)

133 I echo Biden's Dog's comment the other night, 'Something won't happen'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:39 PM (XeU6L)

134 Literally treason: China is unquestionably our enemy and has officially declared "cyber war" on us in the 90s. China ginning up the BLM riots is another massive act of war.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 17, 2026 12:39 PM (UZCuZ)

135 "Perhaps President Xi can help."

Trump may indeed ask for the data from China. It might cause the media to stroke out. Dare to dream.

Posted by: connected and litigious at July 17, 2026 12:40 PM (cS1cw)

136 Hmm.

Paper ballots then?

Nah.

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 12:40 PM (XuXeR)

137 Like someone said yesterday, I believe it was an Ette, they were prepared to be whelmed...That's where I am....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 12:40 PM (3iJWA)

138 In the CBS show, FBI, there was an episode where a "right-wing" group called "StornFront" infiltrates the FBI, after aligning with .. get this .. China

Coincidence ?

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:40 PM (RHGPo)

139 You can see how far our republic has fallen by simply watching how hard Democrats and their friends in the media avoid the truth.

There was a time when we could disagree on the basis of facts and demonstrable outcomes. It was easy in that environment to identify the truth because it was unavoidable and unmistakable.

Now we have the media, Democrat Cult acolytes, and every enemy force aligned against our republic telling you the truth isn’t what is demonstrable, but rather what they say it is.

You had major broadcast media stations and formerly respectable publications like the WSJ peddling narratives before the factual evidence was even available to them last night. They could not possibly have gone through all that information, digested it, examined its veracity and made truthful, intellectually derived, logical conclusions in that timeframe. That’s not just bias, it’s a subversive op against our country.

Reasonable people want election security. That integrity is fundamental to the legitimacy of our government. The only people who don’t want or seek an end to our country. It’s time to crush them once and for all of eternity.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 17, 2026 12:40 PM (6GFFE)

140 Zombie Jessica Savitch >>>>>>>> Kaitlin Collins >>> Brennan >>Welker

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:40 PM (Riz8t)

141 Trump doesn't understand how to communicate or bring up subjects that enter the discourse. Or get people's attention. Or refocus attention. Or change narratives to something that suits us rather than the Left.

We need someone who can do that effectively. I bet that guy would be able to actually win.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:41 PM (/bHKT)

142 A guy I worked with once told me don't throw the turd on the table unless you have a proposal to clean it up.

All I heard about last night was that there's a big turd on the table; several turds actually. No mention of the names of the persons who ran the agencies who were derelict or seditious, and certainly no proposals to clean the turds off the table.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
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The SAVE Act has been on the table for months.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 12:41 PM (/WQyy)

143 I wonder if they also have Mitt’s binder full of women.

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 17, 2026 12:41 PM (XjfpJ)

144 Trump may indeed ask for the data from China.

==

or, OR..we can cut China off from our financial markets

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:41 PM (GD0B3)

145 Talk is cheap. Try and execute.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 17, 2026 12:41 PM (rJ48h)

146 we jokingly claim -- despite it being true in many areas -- that there were actually more "voters" than registered voters ..."

District I lived in had approx 120 percent turnout.

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (XuXeR)

147 If no one is prosecuted and no one goes to jail, this is all moot. Bad stuff, but moot. It has to be handled like the border, with actions, arrests, deportations.
Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (GD0B3)

And some shitmaggots need to simply "flee the country to avoid prosecution". And never be seen again.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (1z8ji)

148 Ego doesn't allow a lot of people to do that absent an assault on what they believe to be true that is so massive it overcomes the defenses that what these people know to be true is actually false.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:38 PM (E4rtv)
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It's even harder for those on the Left to acknowledge error of any kind.

What they "know" is bound up in their identity as a Leftist.

For them, "I'm on the Left, therefore by definition I am good and noble and pure."

They will let NOTHING spoil that delusion.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (FZ29D)

149 idk details on "treason" versus "sedition" versus "insurrection".

BUT, we are still on a "War Footing against Terrorism" as I understand it, so some acts could be tried in a military tribunal, afaik. And the biggest terrorist attack in decades may be the Covid Crimes, and the forced jabs and insane shutdowns that harmed a nation of kids, and harmed and killed millions of others.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (vbXSk)

150 I think we are close to it actually being a legitimately Constitutional move for the federal government to heavily investigate voting behavior as part of the guarantee of a republican form of government clause.

I say that as a staunch Constitutionalist, who questions where Congress gets the grant to regulate time zones--unless of course it is the now ever-growing catchall "interstate commerce".

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (Fi81e)

151 If you can control the rolls, you can invent people, if only for the duration of the election.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (2WIwB)


This is just one of the many manipulations commonly done to cheat a win.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (tWxgu)

152 I believe the arrests will come but the media sure isn't going to publicize them. The legal process will work. Eventually.
Hell, DHS is arresting over a thousand every day. did anyone hear about that, except here? And knowing the IC, I have no doubt there are a lot of GS12-15's making deals to avoid prosecution.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (2WIwB)

153 We need someone who can communicate with "everyone". Trump ain't it.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM (/bHKT)

154 I am disappointed that we are not waking up to Footage of Overnight Raids and Frog Marches.

Posted by: garrett
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They've got to nail the judges first.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:35 PM (xHEjv)

1000X This.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 12:43 PM (S41Gd)

155 Politics does not work that way--you have to prep people for what you do--

+++
Absolutely. Agree that something good is coming. Hope it works.

Meanwhile not the Babylon Bee: a man pretending to bej a woman, running for office in Maine has said "I won't lie and I won't deceive you".

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 17, 2026 12:43 PM (jPdyB)

156 Part of the CBS coverage included a claim that the SAFE Act was unconstitutional because elections are “local”.

“The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators” (U.S. Const. art. I, §4, cl. 1)

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:43 PM (RHGPo)

157 I can’t bring myself to watch that clip of Margaret “bitch face” Brennan. I don’t need a BP mega spike

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 12:43 PM (yz/88)

158 SFB Amey Coney Barrett is scared out of her mind. She always wears a bullet proof vest. Is that not inordinately influencing SCOTUS? A couple of floating bonasburgs would help ease the tension.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:43 PM (xHEjv)

159 This explains not just the RUSHUN CUHLOOOSHUN nonsense but the January 6 "insurrection" hoax as well. They needed as much misdirection and cover as possible to distract from the actual fuckery going on.

Posted by: Schumer turned...for much less at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (TbWk/)

160 220 Mil is essentially the entire Voting Population.

So. It sounds like the solution is a new, unique Voter ID for all eligible Voters, paid for by the Government?

That would make the SAVE Act a Budgetary Act and allow passage with 50 Votes?

Sure. They are gonna take it to Court. But maybe it sneaks by the Senate that way?

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (uzmqU)

161 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (2YhKe)

162 Odyssey opening to massive numbers. Projected to be bigger than Oppenheimer. With a black actress and a trans actor. The horror.

Maga in shambles.

Posted by: lol at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (gSIIK)

163 You can see how far our republic has fallen by simply watching how hard Democrats and their friends in the media avoid the truth.

I started to watch some videos from a new conservative pundit (who looks surprisingly like Abe Lincoln) and he told the story of a friend of his, who he claimed was smart who voted for the local Dem candidate for governor.

He pointed out that on actual policy questions the friend mostly aligned with the Republican challenger. So why did the friend vote D? Well because the FNM told him the D candidate was a nice woman that would do good things and that the Republican was a bad bad person and the friend didn't bother to even listen to the two candidates or read their platforms.

And yes the friend now bitches about what the Dem governor is doing...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (sKqQm)

164 Piper (or whoever is socking her, RIP Kale Goddess), I'm still laughing at "your hair makes you look like a potato".
Would love to see a fashion guest spot some weekend, where you as surgically take apart more of our esteemed female betters in media.

Posted by: barbarausa at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (enw9G)

165 Is this what Tulsi Gabbard was working on when people were saying she was doing nothing?

Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (VJX5o)

166 The way Trump is rolling this out is smart. Not one big drop but document drops constantly.

And yes, people do care. That's why nearly every media organization refused to cover it. They are part of the treason.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (viF8m)

167 It's like defense of property. Every little thing to deter the criminal helps.


Posted by: Braenyard

The issue is primarily of states that allow widespread cheating which is any state that uses cheat by mail as a voting system and states that purposefully refuse to clean voting rolls of illegals, dead, moved, and ineligible voters (felons, etc.).

Motor voter makes it marginally worse but NVRA simply sets the basic floor for states--not how easy they can make voter registration as some have same day voting and registration which is also a big cheat factor and this preceded NVRA by years.

This is one of those issues of federalism--it incentivizes D dominated states to cheat on voting, allowing illegals in, and making voting registration unlimited to hide fraud. These blue states benefit from the government spending formulas, greater representation due to the presence of illegals, and political power to keep themselves in office. They have no reason to run free and fair elections and they don't because the incentives run all toward fake, fraudulent, and illegal actions.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (E4rtv)

168 You can do basic math on the back of a napkin to see that an over 90% turn out of registered voters is more than improbable unless we were North Korea.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (/WQyy)

169 MAJOR BREAKING: President Trump says 220 million U.S. voter files were stolen by the People�s Republic of China and says the intelligence was deliberately covered up by deep state actors within the U.S. government. pic.twitter.com/nUGGnVoNeJ

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) July 17, 2026



My kingdom for a Queensrÿche lyric........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (2YhKe)

170 I believe the arrests will come but the media sure isn't going to publicize them.

They will if the FBI breaks into the studio during the nightly "news" cast, and frogmarches the anchor away.

*stares dreamily into the distance*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (Riz8t)

171 Don't forget General Milley or whoever told the Chinese that he would make sure that he would tell the Chinese or not follow orders from Trump if he gave the order to attack China

This information from last night puts a whole knew spin on that. It tells me the intrlligence knew the Chinese were doing some serious shit, some might say "act of war" type stuff.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2026 12:45 PM (trfdu)

172 We need to find someone down to earth that doesn't feel like a stuffy Republican. Someone who doesn't talk down to people or feel like Sheldon Cooper came to life and decided he was gonna teach everyone trickle down economics.

Someone who can talk to people and make them care about issues that affect them. Someone who unabashedly loves America and has a positive message that isn't leftarded.

I wish we could find one. Trump's simply out of touch.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:45 PM (/bHKT)

173
Second -- in another post -- about treasonous US "intelligence" operatives covering it up to protect their Chinese pals




Cocksuckers like General Thoroughly Modern Milley should be shitting their dainty lace panties right now.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM (y9nCu)

174 So what will come of this? Forgotten in two weeks? The media allowed to scumble it all as propaganda and a predicate to election-rigging of its own? If the crisis is so real, what emergency powers can be invoked and should they be invoked?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM (t+TFX)

175 95 Lot of chatter about Gallego in Arizona. Women coming forward in same sense as Salawell and Planter?
Posted by: Jonah at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (gwrBY

It is not news a skeezy guy is skeezy. The 2 brought up did not work for him, he wasn’t married. I can’t get excited about an adult having sex with another adult. The scandal is what he did to his wife, but apparently this is no big deal to the left, being the party of moral relativity. Now if something comes up more untoward than a single guy had sex with 2 people on 2 different occasions, maybe it becomes a thing.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM (Dd38x)

176
China would never interfere with our elections.

They're so good and pure they don't even have them there anymore.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM (Y8DZL)

177 >>Someone who can talk to people and make them care about issues that affect them. Someone who unabashedly loves America and has a positive message that isn't leftarded.


Because the Left won't slander that guy?

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM (uzmqU)

178 Did Trump also say that major media figures are directly on China's payroll?

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (4NO2D)

179 Wisconsin apparently voted 15% more than the rest of the country in 2020. Almost 80% turnout.


Also 10K voters aged 120 or older...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (sKqQm)

180 >>Is this what Tulsi Gabbard was working on when people were saying she was doing nothing?

Yes.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (viF8m)

181 The SAVE Act has been on the table for months.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 12:41 PM (/WQyy)
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I suspect that there are actually Pubs in the "53 Yeses" that are glad for the lack of the cloture votes and are thanking Thune behind the scenes so they get to pose to their conservative base back home that they "wanted the SAVE act!"

The cloture vote has become it's own monster. The talking filibuster was actually STILL about "conversation" in that words were STILL being used.

The tea & crumpet filibuster TOTALLY denies that the filibuster is about "further discussion" and instead means that cloture has gone rogue.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (Fi81e)

182 Apparently, ABC didn't cover the speech, but they interrupted programming afterwards to tell you what they thought of it.

I'm leery about too much FCC pressure, but that sounds like a case for it.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:12 PM (Fi81e)



That's Ok. Brian 'Sex Machine' Stelter says that they did a pre-debunk on anything Trump might've said in his upcoming speech.

All is well......all is well.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (2YhKe)

183 Is this what Tulsi Gabbard was working on when people were saying she was doing nothing?

I'm thinking now about a Tulsi v. Sophie Cunningham jello-wrestling match.

*stares dreamily into the distance*

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

184 All this crap makes me believe COVID was an op to take out Trump.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (W2Pud)


It was an excuse to lock down the financial markets to avoid another crash. We got the inflation instead.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (rbvCR)

185 The scandal is what he did to his wife, but apparently this is no big deal to the left, being the party of moral relativity. Now if something comes up more untoward than a single guy had sex with 2 people on 2 different occasions, maybe it becomes a thing.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM


Lefty women expect the worst of men because Lefty men are the worst of men.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (4NO2D)

186 I do not believe this. Biden won because everyone loved him and was the best brain dead POTIUS in US History.

Just ask him and Kami about there election being the most SECURE in Universal History ......

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (1Fh1q)

187 The first problem - not the only problem, but the first one - is simple. Really, really simple.

House and Senate members get a Federal Check. They work for the Fed. Sure - they nominally get votes from their own State ... although anyone not a Howdy-Dudy sees those contests are rigged.

But they get a Federal Check. That's Problem Number One.
Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 12:41 PM (AoR1V)

----

Been saying for years their pay should come from state legislatures.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (trfdu)

188 @SaraGonzalesTX

I asked Senator Thom Tillis about his vote against the Save America act and whether it has anything to do with the money he’s receiving from industries who profit off of cheap illegal labor.

He was VERY mad about the question.

https://tinyurl.com/r5wu5jj8

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (xHEjv)

189 171 The way Trump is rolling this out is smart. Not one big drop but document drops constantly.

And yes, people do care. That's why nearly every media organization refused to cover it. They are part of the treason.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I would agree. You have to prepare the public before you take actions and take the temperature of the public by tweaking actions as needed.

This speech was the why that something needs to be done and a political club to push the Senate to adopt the SAVE act via reconciliation. Adding in China means that GOP senators opposing it plus the fact that the House embedded it into the National Defense Authorization Act (defense spending bill) means that people like Murcow and Thune have to address the fact that China is interfering with our elections. A few fools, like Tillis or the semi dead Turtle if he could even make it to the Capitol to vote, are against it but this is a wedge against others that might oppose it.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (E4rtv)

190 Did anybody notice that Sen Jon Ossoff (D-Ga) and Sen Raphael Warnock (D-Ga) were acting like they expected Trump to de legitimize them last night ?

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (RHGPo)

191 >>Did Trump also say that major media figures are directly on China's payroll?

How dare you!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (viF8m)

192 And yes, people do care. That's why nearly every media organization refused to cover it. They are part of the treason.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (viF8m)



When. Will. Heads. Roll.

It all means jack shit until someone is punished severely for actions detrimental to The United States.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (2YhKe)

193 Much of the content on whitehouse.gov is redacted. I want those that got Cinese money to be named and shamed, prior to prosecution and execution.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at July 17, 2026 12:49 PM (RlgNa)

194
More voters than voters!
More voters than voters!

Posted by: Rob Zombie at July 17, 2026 12:49 PM (Fi81e)

195 Did Trump also say that major media figures are directly on China's payroll?

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 12:47 PM (4NO2D)

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Yes, I recall him either stating or implying it.

He could have also gone with Senate & House Members of Congress ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:49 PM (KBK+H)

196 Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:38 PM (E4rtv)

Maybe so, but if the fraud and its cover-up constitute an existential threat to the nation as it was presented, it seems like it's time to put politics aside and use the executive power to act expediently. I think EOs would be appropriate mechanism to get the ball rolling.

For example, each person who was in charge of the agencies involved in covering up the fraud has their security clearance revoked immediately. Each news agency who engaged in covering this up has their broadcast license suspended immediately. All Chinese nationals who are not here on a valid visa are repatriated immediately. No new visa for any Chinese person will be issued and expiring visa will not be renewed. No federal funds will be provided to any state until such time as their voter rolls are audited, purged and certified.

Just for starters.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 12:49 PM (3Ope8)

197 Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM (Dd38x)

The releases about Democrats including the takedowns are intentionally masculine. I've been pointing it out for more than a year. It's a rebrand.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:50 PM (/bHKT)

198 197 Did anybody notice that Sen Jon Ossoff (D-Ga) and Sen Raphael Warnock (D-Ga) were acting like they expected Trump to de legitimize them last night ?


yep! they were faked out by the Admin hinting at Fulton County fraud (which is massive).

INSTEAD we got a start, a taste, a calm conversation (for PDJT), I was very impressed.

The ball, she is rolling.

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 12:50 PM (j+aD2)

199 Cocksuckers like General Thoroughly Modern Milley should be shitting their dainty lace panties right now.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 12:46 PM (y9nCu)

That rotund motherfucker should have been tossed out of a helicopter and machine gunned on the way down.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 12:50 PM (S41Gd)

200 So Dem strategy is to dismiss and deny everything in toto as blanket denial rather than attempt to deal with each (or any) of Trump's assertions and evidence.

The DoJ needs to make arrests. Arrests will force their focus. Trade with China needs to end--no, belay that: All ties need to be cut. What they've done constitutes an attack.

Posted by: troyriser at July 17, 2026 12:51 PM (v1M8F)

201 Been saying for years their pay should come from state legislatures.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

They tried that in the Articles of Confederation along with recalls,etc. Did not work well so the Founders dropped that--the federal government should not be beholden to the states and in fact was set up to be Supreme in its areas of nat defense, etc.

I see the problem is more that the Fed govt decided to get into social policies and this accelerated from ending segregation to meddling in a lot of other 'rights' that suddenly were discovered.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:51 PM (E4rtv)

202 I'd like to know how many of the 278,000 actually voted versus just being registered.
Posted by: WisRich at July 17, 2026 12:34 PM (G0vdT)

You can be certain that Democrat ballots were cast in their names. Whether they "voted" or not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 12:51 PM (1z8ji)

203 All I heard about last night was that there's a big turd on the table; several turds actually. No mention of the names of the persons who ran the agencies who were derelict or seditious, and certainly no proposals to clean the turds off the table.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 12:32 PM (3Ope


There is a difference between throwing a turd on the table and pointing out to the people around the table that they are ignoring that there are already turds on the table that need to be cleaned up.

I have noticed that Trump seems to have a rumor appear, then a statement of the problem, then release of documents officially, and then the hammers show up. It seems to work so far. It just drives everyone nuts since it is so backwards to what is demanded.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 12:51 PM (rbvCR)

204 Afternoon Ace.
Margaret Brennan actually is worse than the Dan Rather types. Her stupidity overwhelms everything.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 12:51 PM (OXYE0)

205 When. Will. Heads. Roll.

It all means jack shit until someone is punished severely for actions detrimental to The United States.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (2YhKe)

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And start with The Clintons before those treasonous f*cks finally get their "Just Rewards" via the Express Stairway To Hell.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:52 PM (KBK+H)

206 Joe fucking Biden was directly on China's payroll. We all know it. And yet somehow our cracker jack intel community and our media somehow completely overlooked it. Somehow.

Apparently, the orange menace did not overlook it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 12:52 PM (viF8m)

207 Is Trump reducing the number of visas given to Chinese "students"?

Posted by: mr tmz at July 17, 2026 12:52 PM (rJ48h)

208 Anybody remember that fire at the Chinese consulate in... Houston? The one they wouldn't let firefighters in to fight.
They were going to do the cheat thing in Texas in 2020 too.
That fire was ballots is my theory.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 12:52 PM (YHaz5)

209 197 Did anybody notice that Sen Jon Ossoff (D-Ga) and Sen Raphael Warnock (D-Ga) were acting like they expected Trump to de legitimize them last night ?
Posted by: SMOD

Fulton County was the dog that didn't bark last night.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 12:53 PM (Y8DZL)

210 206 197 Did anybody notice that Sen Jon Ossoff (D-Ga) and Sen Raphael Warnock (D-Ga) were acting like they expected Trump to de legitimize them last night ?


yep! they were faked out by the Admin hinting at Fulton County fraud (which is massive).

INSTEAD we got a start, a taste, a calm conversation (for PDJT), I was very impressed.

The ball, she is rolling.
Posted by: Black Orchid

I don't think Trump wanted to jeopardize possible criminal indictments from the Northern District of Georgia grand jury. He mentioned more dead case of Michigan which obviously has traction in the Michigan gubernatorial race as the Sec. of State that allowed the fraud is running for governor.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)

211 My kingdom for a Queensrÿche lyric........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (2YhKe)

https://youtu.be/l5SVkjJYMOw

Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2026 12:53 PM (dpXJq)

212 BTW…. I didn’t need a document dump to know that 2020 was rigged. The moment a single clogged toilet stopped voting in 6 states it was obvious something was rotten in Denmark.

Covid was a huge historical pivot; whether planned or opportunistically taken advantage of the bastard lefties grabbed as much control and power to make the changes they wanted during that period

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 12:53 PM (yz/88)

213 195 @SaraGonzalesTX

I asked Senator Thom Tillis about his vote against the Save America act and whether it has anything to do with the money he’s receiving from industries who profit off of cheap illegal labor.

He was VERY mad about the question.

https://tinyurl.com/r5wu5jj8
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (xHEjv)


He's been crap since before he was a senator. I based that completely off the loser who's name I forget here that was constantly deepthroating him. That loser also loved him some illegals.

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (3tZV2)

214 Ahem. You're NOT supposed to sleep with SUBORDINATES.

Dems are the first one to hang you out to dry, even if your romantic relationship did not affect your job behavior. It's considered a CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

It's bad in itself.

Which is why it was bad when Monica was blowing Willie in the Oral Office.

Because at the same time as that was going on, the Clintons were forcing federal employees to attend all-day seminars about NO SEX at work--it was ALL bad.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (Fi81e)

215 158 We need someone who can communicate with "everyone". Trump ain't it.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM

Who is that person? And do you honestly think that it would make a difference to anyone in that part of the forest? Because I think we could have the most charismatic person drop from heaven and deliver the message flawlessly, and the result would be the left calling that person Hitler adjacent while simultaneously being a dreaded Zionist, and probably a grifter of the most epic proportions. And Miss CNN would note this person is an election denier *gasp* who doesn’t grasp the magnitude of January 6th. Probably also sleeps on a MyPillow. The.worst.ever.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (p4NUW)

216 201
More voters than voters!

In Pennsylvania, there were 200,000+ more votes than voters.
The AP claimed this was incomplete data at the time it was first reported, but 5 years later, there still are more votes than voters tallied in the 2020 election.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (RHGPo)

217 @SaraGonzalesTX

RINO Thom Tillis is so MAD about me calling him out for voting AGAINST the Save America Act that he’s talking about me on the Senate floor!
--
She upset Tillis so much he attacked her from the Senate floor.
Precious, Tom.

https://tinyurl.com/2cwvhh7x

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (xHEjv)

218 PSA.
Lettuce at Taco Bell in 5 states confirmed as source of a diarrhea-causing parasite outbreak

Posted by: Yer Sistahs Tomato at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (1GajY)

219 >>Anybody remember that fire at the Chinese consulate in... Houston? The one they wouldn't let firefighters in to fight.
They were going to do the cheat thing in Texas in 2020 too.
That fire was ballots is my theory.

You mean the Chinese consulate that was funding BLM/antifa riots? That Chinese consulate?

I seem to recall it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (viF8m)

220 Am I the only one who is completely tired of cloudflare? Now my bank has it. It is always fing up with an error.

enshitification.com they should be called

Hey I have a great new security idea! It's called syphilitic-midget- who-punches-your -customers-in-the-nuts -flare.

How does it work? Well it's a syphilitic midget who punches your customers in the nuts.

Over time you will notice fewer and fewer attempts at security breaches until eventually there will be no attempts of anything at all! 100% guaranteed.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (3uBP9)

221
He's been crap since before he was a senator. I based that completely off the loser who's name I forget here that was constantly deepthroating him. That loser also loved him some illegals.
Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (3tZV2)

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Nip sip

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (trfdu)

222 I dunno. I think this was much, much less about Trump wanting prosecutions than obtaining maximum leverage for a last-ditch effort to pass the Save Act.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (bNf8H)

223 major media figures are directly on China's payroll

==

The entire editorial board of the NYT, see this is very easy!

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (GD0B3)

224 The DoJ needs to make arrests. Arrests will force their focus. Trade with China needs to end--no, belay that: All ties need to be cut. What they've done constitutes an attack.

Posted by: troyriser at July 17, 2026 12:51 PM (v1M8F)

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Said the same thing last night: that this was an Act Of War on the U.S. by Chy-na.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (KBK+H)

225 220 My kingdom for a Queensrÿche lyric........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (2YhKe)

JET.
CITY.
WOOOOO-MAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (0bjKf)

226 I'm sure a totalitarian regime looking to corrupt our elections would never even consider releasing a virus we helped them engineer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 17, 2026 12:56 PM (g/cZn)

227 I don't think Trump wanted to jeopardize possible criminal indictments from the Northern District of Georgia grand jury. He mentioned more dead case of Michigan which obviously has traction in the Michigan gubernatorial race as the Sec. of State that allowed the fraud is running for governor.


yep agree whig

that said the MI stuff was really the start of I think Trump's people sniffing around this and truly believing we have a huge problem

JILL STEIN. she started it ironically, when she insisted on looking in MI and the actual number of votes in the sealed boxes. and how they bore no resemblance to the number claimed.

from there it just continued and continued. once you see something like that for certain, you change your mindset.

like when I saw station wagons drive up to west philly voting "centers" (literally corner stores and homes it's so crazy here) and start shoving those boxes pre-filled into the place.

or my friend from LA who thought Lousiana was the most corrupt city in the nation told me what she was seeing working for the Ds in Philly. it dwarfed New Orleans!

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 12:56 PM (j+aD2)

228 213 When. Will. Heads. Roll.

It all means jack shit until someone is punished severely for actions detrimental to The United States.

Posted by: Sponge

If we were a dictatorship, such things would be easy but elections wouldn't matter anyway. Chavez laughed when he won by cheating as did Maduro because those being cheated could not do a damn thing against them.

Criminal charges, especially in a polarized electorate, are hard to make on complicated cases and these are very complicated cases involving the actions of hundreds if not thousands of individuals that created teh Democrat cheat machine. So it is more like a Mafia and corruption investigation than arrest the bad guys with the illegal drugs, cash, and money.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:56 PM (E4rtv)

229 Fulton County was the dog that didn't bark last night.

Nice 19th C callback.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:56 PM (Riz8t)

230
That rotund motherfucker should have been tossed out of a helicopter and machine gunned on the way down.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 12:50 PM (S41Gd)



I AM INTRIGUED BY YOUR IDEAS AND WOULD LIKE TO SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR NEWSLETTER

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 12:57 PM (y9nCu)

231 When. Will. Heads. Roll."

Never. This isn't about China - if voting and counting those votes were critical, interference wouldn't be a factor.
Instead, it's just a big show for the two political parties...

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 12:57 PM (XuXeR)

232 Who is that person? And do you honestly think that it would make a difference to anyone in that part of the forest? Because I think we could have the most charismatic person drop from heaven and deliver the message flawlessly, and the result would be the left calling that person Hitler adjacent while simultaneously being a dreaded Zionist, and probably a grifter of the most epic proportions. And Miss CNN would note this person is an election denier *gasp* who doesn’t grasp the magnitude of January 6th. Probably also sleeps on a MyPillow. The.worst.ever.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (p4NUW)



Too many people forget that what they did to Trump to try and beat him they did to ROMNEY and MCCAIN. Two of the biggest fucking worthless cuck RINOs that would side with Dems to screw over conservative goals at any opportunity.

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2026 12:57 PM (3tZV2)

233 Nip sip
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Curiously, but satisfyingly, absent here in recent years.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:57 PM (XeU6L)

234 PSA.
Lettuce at Taco Bell in 5 states confirmed as source of a diarrhea-causing parasite outbreak
Posted by: Yer Sistahs Tomato at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (1GajY)

Don't look at us, we had nothing to do with it. This time.

Posted by: Chipotle at July 17, 2026 12:58 PM (dpXJq)

235 PJM:

In a bizarre move, the Democratic National Committee required its senior leadership to sign non-disclosure agreements before a private meeting on the party's finances, according to two people familiar with the conversations who spoke to Axios. That alone is a break from past practice. DNC officers are high-ranking members of chair Ken Martin's team, not entry-level staffers. Officers at that level don't typically get handed a confidentiality agreement before they can hear how much money they have in their piggy bank and what they plan to do about it.

Make no mistake about it, you don't slap NDAs on your own leadership team unless you're worried about what might leak. And boy, it’s gotta be something really juicy.

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:58 PM (RHGPo)

236 I echo Biden's Dog's comment the other night, 'Something won't happen'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:39 PM (XeU6L)


Lots of things aren't going to happen. That is because other things will.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 12:58 PM (rbvCR)

237 Guys, if the Chicoms said they didn't interfere why that's good enough for me.

In other news I'm being told there's hot single milfs in my area looking for love. Hit damn, it's my lucky day!


Send $14.99 for my special book "Secrets To Winning Powerball."

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2026 12:58 PM (vTZFs)

238 And now you understand the shit-show of ObamaCare. McCain took one for the team. If McCain didn't cast that vote ? Another Republican would have.

Posted by: Blues Junior at July 17, 2026 12:49 PM (AoR1V)
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Nah. I've been saying for *years* that I didn't know whether McCain drew the short or the long straw.

Did he *have* to? Or did he *get* to?

So, that wouldn't be a new understanding for me.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:58 PM (Fi81e)

239 Lots of deeply concerned people who have never commented before on this thread. DNC check cashing machine must be working overtime.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 12:59 PM (xComp)

240 Lettuce at Taco Bell in 5 states confirmed as source of a diarrhea-causing parasite outbreak


lol they covered that up for a looooooong time didn't they

meanwhile my Aldi produce section has been untouched

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 12:59 PM (j+aD2)

241 Treason.

This word gets a play around here. If this is really treason then it should be treated as such. If it's something else, treat it as that.

I would hope that the administration is finally waking up to the fact that simply pointing out treason, or whatever they think this is, and then walking away, expecting it to somehow be taken care of isn't working.

They have to actively direct the actions they want, or surely nothing will happen. And they better be ready to deal with the judicial insurrection that'll make every attempt to derail it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 12:59 PM (jehhT)

242 or my friend from LA who thought Lousiana was the most corrupt city in the nation told me what she was seeing working for the Ds in Philly. it dwarfed New Orleans!
Posted by: Black Orchid

I was semi amused that Michael Myers, the PA US House representative that got expelled over Abscam turned up in another case just the last couple of years and got sentenced to prison again for election scumbuggery in PA. From wiki

"After release (for accepting bribes as a Congressman), Myers started his own political consulting firm.

Myers was accused of conspiring to violate voting rights by fraudulently stuffing the ballot boxes for Democratic candidates in the 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 elections. He was charged on July 21, 2020, with bribery of an election official, falsification of records, voting more than once in federal elections, and obstruction of justice."

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:59 PM (E4rtv)

243 >>Did anybody notice that Sen Jon Ossoff (D-Ga) and Sen Raphael Warnock (D-Ga) were acting like they expected Trump to de legitimize them last night ?

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM

Defensive prebuttals are tight.

Posted by: huerfano at July 17, 2026 12:59 PM (VJX5o)

244 Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (p4NUW)

Forget it, I'm rolling.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (/bHKT)

245 223 Ahem. You're NOT supposed to sleep with SUBORDINATES.

Dems are the first one to hang you out to dry, even if your romantic relationship did not affect your job behavior. It's considered a CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

It's bad in itself.

Which is why it was bad when Monica was blowing Willie in the Oral Office.

Because at the same time as that was going on, the Clintons were forcing federal employees to attend all-day seminars about NO SEX at work--it was ALL bad.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17

Zero disagreements. But the 2 women who were staffers were not his staffers. They were someone else’s. Is there more out there? Probably, he is skeezy. But so far, this isn’t that exciting.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (p4NUW)

246 249 Lots of deeply concerned people who have never commented before on this thread. DNC check cashing machine must be working overtime.


..
Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 12:59 PM (xC

I noticed that too...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (3iJWA)

247 Lettuce at Taco Bell in 5 states confirmed as source of a diarrhea-causing parasite outbreak

That sounds like normal Taco Bell.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (xComp)

248 And Miss CNN would note this person is an election denier *gasp* who doesn’t grasp the magnitude of January 6th.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (p4NUW)

You know, that another thing that chaps my ass. NOBODY in the conservative sphere ever seems to push back, let alone vigorously on that whole 'J6 was an insurrection' bullshit.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 01:01 PM (3Ope8)

249 We need someone who can communicate with "everyone". Trump ain't it.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:42 PM

Who is that person? And do you honestly think that it would make a difference to anyone in that part of the forest?

------------

Somewhere in the AoSHQ Style Guide is the recommendation to not fall for ellipsis' sarcasm!

/I once considered putting a permanent /sarc tag in my nic here as well ...

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 01:01 PM (KBK+H)

250 Probably also sleeps on a MyPillow. The.worst.ever.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (p4NUW)

I love that I can give a big fuck you to the dems while I sleep.
Giza Cotton Sheets and a My Pillow for the win.

Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2026 01:01 PM (YHaz5)

251 Blues Johnson Junior is right!

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:01 PM (4NO2D)

252 I'm so damn cynical and blackpilled that nothing I heard last night rose to the level of "noteworthy" or even "surprising". I already assumed this was going on. Nice to have my doom prophecies confirmed for once.

Hand in hand with that cynicism is the complete faith that absolutely nothing will be done to fix any of this - because it was Trump that was the messenger.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 17, 2026 01:01 PM (WYStd)

253 Lots of deeply concerned people who have never commented before on this thread"

Well, they can't hang out at taco bell...

Posted by: man at July 17, 2026 01:01 PM (XuXeR)

254 Trump .... saying the broadcast licenses OUGHT to be revoked.
Just do it. . Quit fuckin talking and DO something.
Order someone(s) to take action by a date and time.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (5A5PV)

255 I'm leery about too much FCC pressure, but that sounds like a case for it.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:12 PM (Fi81e)

I'm not leery about it. The problem is, we're not sufficiently making the case to the people. We need to be much more aggressive, proactive, with specifics. The idea that the same media that screamed "Russia, Russia!" and unquestioningly endorsed the 51 signatories to the Biden laptop lie are refusing to even cover this evidence is insane. Who is saying this?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (t+TFX)

256 The leftists I know on Facebook are saying , as expected, that Trump is full of shit. It won't change until people are convicted, or more to the point pleas guilty and admit what they did

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (OXYE0)

257 Am I the only one who is completely tired of cloudflare? Now my bank has it. It is always fing up with an error.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 12:55 PM (3uBP9)
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But they're only doing the flare minimum.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (Fi81e)

258 MSNow - Trump attacks Intel Community in speech filled with lies - fair and balanced...

CNN - Canadian wildfires - sorry about that...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (Sco7b)

259 >>Make no mistake about it, you don't slap NDAs on your own leadership team unless you're worried about what might leak. And boy, it’s gotta be something really juicy.

As I've been saying for months, the DNC is dead ass broke because their money machines at USAID and ActBlue among others are no more.

How does the DNC, a party that constantly brags about their money raising prowess, go literally broke? That's the scandal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (viF8m)

260 So you've never seen 10K average people try to do something.
——

Ha! I used to be incensed the way the military seemed to treat everyone like idiots at times. “One size fits all” is maddening. One person shits their pants, well, we all gotta wear diapers.

Later, when I was a supervisor, it started to make sense. I’m not sure how simple basic instructions get mangled, but they will. Some guys can break an Anvil with a rubber hammer.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (2/ueB)

261 My money is that China performed the op but it was suggested by traitors in our country.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (xcxpd)

262 And this corruption goes back a long time as Pennsylvania is a key state in elections--Boss Cameron, who became Sec of War in Lincoln's administration after playing a big part in getting Lincoln the nomination was such a corrupt critter.

I think it was Thaddeus Stevens, GOP House rep that said of Cameron, " He would steal a red hot stove if he could get away with it." Stevens got blowback from Cameron's supporters so Stevens then amended his statement, "I said that Cameron would steal a red hot stove if he could get away with it, I withdraw that, he would steal the red hot stove only if he had gloves on." Paraphrased, too lazy to pull up original quote.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (E4rtv)

263 Ace, garrett said not to tell you this:

157 Don't tell Ace, but I just finished up a 36 hour fast.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:35 AM (uzmqU)

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:03 PM (6wpGE)

264 My kingdom for a Queensrÿche lyric........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 12:44 PM (2YhKe)


Be nice about it, that is all

https://9gag.com/gag/ayNb9mb

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 01:03 PM (rbvCR)

265 254 Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (p4NUW)

Forget it, I'm rolling.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (/bHKT)

I don’t think you are wrong. I do not like how Trump communicates. It’s why when he gives a good speech, we are blown away. And he has given a few, but they aren’t the norm.

I believe the only person who could tell the mind hive they have new thoughts is Obama. But I think even IF we mind controlled him into saying something useful, they very well could turn on him, too.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:03 PM (p4NUW)

266 No juicy steak ever made this banana fart his butt off. Just sayin.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 01:03 PM (3uBP9)

267 249 Lots of deeply concerned people who have never commented before on this thread. DNC check cashing machine must be working overtime.

Yes, it's the DNC. Velly, velly bad.

Posted by: Xi Jinping at July 17, 2026 01:03 PM (Riz8t)

268 Posted by: Weasel at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (8jVAy)

With an intermission of shotgun pinata and Pinochet skeet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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La cucaracha, la cucaracha, bam, bam
Show me the money por favor
La cucaracha, la cucaracha, bam, bam
La cucaracha, bam, bam
We are being raided or something
Call up Pixy on the telephone
tell him to get us out of this jail

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:03 PM (xHEjv)

269 267 Am I the only one who is completely tired of cloudflare? Now my bank has it. It is always fing up with an error.

Posted by: banana Dream
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I think they rely on fingerprinting your system by cookies, and other such crap. If your browser settings kill those tracking devices, Cloudflare has a fit because your computer appears different to the system each time. So you get endless boxes to verify you are not a bot crap.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:04 PM (E4rtv)

270 At least the weekend Talking heads shows will have something to talk about

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:04 PM (3iJWA)

271 It's like explosive diarrhea, you throw your underpants in the garbage and jump into the shower.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 01:04 PM (sYM3s)

272 ConfirmBias @Fulcrumbs44

My guess is that the networks thought that President Trump would be speaking about Fulton County last night. They likely had all of their talking points set.

Instead he threw them a curveball, and spoke about the fact that our media had been compromised by foreign entities.

While he was revealing they were compromised, they were kind enough to suppress his address....and prove his point!

Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (RHGPo)

273 Zero disagreements. But the 2 women who were staffers were not his staffers. They were someone else’s. Is there more out there? Probably, he is skeezy. But so far, this isn’t that exciting.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (p4NUW)

My sister was a Republican Senate fundraiser back in the 2010's.

Senators sleeping with staffers is about the most mild form of drama you can imagine goes on.

She said that the "Family Values Holy Roller" senators were amongst the worst sex-addicted whores in DC and that the entire thing is held together mutually assured destruction. It's why the sexual discrimination payout list isn't public.

These types of stories are used to push someone out instead of releasing much more party-damaging types of drama.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (WYStd)

274 200 Much of the content on whitehouse.gov is redacted. I want those that got Chinese money to be named and shamed, prior to prosecution and execution.
_-_
Why do we allow the glvernment(s) to redact...anything? Sources and methods, my ass...no need to protect sources and methods if they are never used to OUR benefit.

By the way, Mike Hammer, etc. etc. had a great take in that last thread about AI being a parasite. Good words, Mike:
"...we are the fodder that AI feeds upon. I imagine it to be a parasite (or worse) that feeds on the host, until the host is bled dry."

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (JWDez)

275
/I once considered putting a permanent /sarc tag in my nic here as well ...
Posted by: ShainS
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Conveying sarcasm/satire in text is sometimes difficult.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (XeU6L)

276 I'm not leery about it. The problem is, we're not sufficiently making the case to the people.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 17, 2026 01:02 PM (t+TFX)
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That's exactly why I am leery about it.

Our best case is that we are still in a representative republic where votes matter some. And you don't want to scare the herd.

I wish I lived in a world where I could refuse to believe that last sentence, but I don't think I do.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (Fi81e)

277 How does the DNC, a party that constantly brags about their money raising prowess, go literally broke?

Slowly, then all at once?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (Riz8t)

278
You mean the Chinese consulate that was funding BLM/antifa riots? That Chinese consulate?

I seem to recall it.

Posted by: JackStraw
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They had a shit ton of employees at the Texas Medical Center.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (xHEjv)

279
Because at the same time as that was going on, the Clintons were forcing federal employees to attend all-day seminars about NO SEX at work--it was ALL bad.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:54 PM (Fi81e)


Never dip your pen in company ink.

Don't punch in with the timecard in your pants.

You do it like I did with two ex-girlfriends... wait until they quit the company, THEN shamelessly hit on them.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 01:06 PM (y9nCu)

280 It's like explosive diarrhea, you throw your underpants in the garbage and jump into the shower.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 01:04 PM



Trouser chili.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:06 PM (4NO2D)

281 255 223 Ahem. You're NOT supposed to sleep with SUBORDINATES.
Posted by: Piper

HE WAS IN THE POWER POSITION SO IT WAS RAPE!

Also, Monica Lewinsky wasn't, 'cause she blamed Republicans.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:06 PM (Y8DZL)

282 >>I would hope that the administration is finally waking up to the fact that simply pointing out treason, or whatever they think this is, and then walking away, expecting it to somehow be taken care of isn't working.

I would hope people start realizing there really is a grand jury in Florida that has been hearing evidence of a grand conspiracy for months and just because the garbage and likely treasonous media doesn't breathlessly report on it daily like Russia collusion doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 01:06 PM (viF8m)

283 But the 2 women who were staffers were not his staffers.

But they did have positions on his staff.

(*rimshot*)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 17, 2026 01:06 PM (g/cZn)

284 In the previous thread we were shown pretty obvious evidence of cheating in a class at Brown University. Now what if some of the students accused of cheating had strong advocates in the Brown administration asserting they were NOT cheating, despite the evidence. That could bump it up to a dispute hearing at a higher level, where the judge could be partisan for the administration, where sworn evidence could just be thrown out, so the preferred verdict could be preserved: there’s no cheating going on here. Don’t believe the lies this Brown professor is peddling. You get where I am going. Who you going to believe, the Deep State or your lying eyes?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 01:06 PM (tWxgu)

285 Giza Cotton Sheets and a My Pillow for the win.

MyAssJack.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 17, 2026 01:07 PM (Kt19C)

286 Zero disagreements. But the 2 women who were staffers were not his staffers. They were someone else’s.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (p4NUW)
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Ah, didn't know that. Thanks, Piper.

I guess I assumed too much and read too little.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:07 PM (Fi81e)

287 287 How does the DNC, a party that constantly brags about their money raising prowess, go literally broke?

No honor among thieves?

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM (Y8DZL)

288 I didn't know there were Taco Bell offerings with lettuce.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM (2ap+5)

289 264 Trump .... saying the broadcast licenses OUGHT to be revoked.
Just do it. . Quit fuckin talking and DO something.
Order someone(s) to take action by a date and time.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters

He can't--it is a process where the FCC has to investigate, provide notice and comment, and then adjudicate as there will be lawsuits, injunctions, etc. Broadcast licenses are treated as a limited property right and like eminent domain, Scotus requires due process for revocation.

Trump's talk was aimed at something as a direct effect though while the machinery goes on--stock prices of Comcast and Disney which if their broadcast rights to stations are threatened, it reduces their stock price.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM (E4rtv)

290 300

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM (6wpGE)

291 Lettuce at Taco Bell in 5 states confirmed as source of a diarrhea-causing parasite outbreak

Diarrhea-poisoned?

Posted by: The Janitor Always Mops Twice at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM (+IsEU)

292 Did anybody notice that Sen Jon Ossoff (D-Ga) and Sen Raphael Warnock (D-Ga) were acting like they expected Trump to de legitimize them last night ?
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 12:48 PM (RHGPo)


Were I Trump, I would be keeping them on a very short leash. The alternative is chaos that starts with the indictments and Trump seems to avoid chaos

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM (rbvCR)

293 But the 2 women who were staffers were not his staffers.

But they did have positions on his staff.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 17, 2026 01:06 PM (g/cZn)
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They were temporarily working on his staff.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM (Fi81e)

294 The election fraud is baked in.

“Automatic recount” is worse than useless, naturally it will spit out the same result. Democrats aren’t necessarily stupid, but they think you are.

The tell is they start screeching like wounded eagles at the suggestion of cleaning up voter rolls, signature verification, “mail in” ballots, ID to vote, etc etc.

Even the perception that elections are rigged is a very serious national security issue. Confidence and Trust is everything. They are willing to go “scorched earth” rather than give up their fraudulent sinecures, but that’s not news.

If they had a shred of integrity they would be more than cooperative - “Oh, you want to look under the hood on this process? By all means”. Instead, they want to throw you in jail.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 01:09 PM (2/ueB)

295 Just because people fuck up does not mean that there isn't a conspiracy.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:09 PM (4NO2D)

296 301 300
Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:08 PM


Whatever works.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2026 01:09 PM (kgE5c)

297
How does the DNC, a party that constantly brags about their money raising prowess, go literally broke?




Word

Posted by: USAID at July 17, 2026 01:10 PM (y9nCu)

298 I'm waiting to see if they name the media "personalities" (they certainly aren't journalists) that are alledged to have been bribed by the Chinese.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 01:10 PM (dIske)

299 The clogged toilet stopped vote COUNTING in 6 states…. What I meant to type, but all you smart morons knew that

It stunk to high heaven and I’m not talking about the toilet

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:10 PM (yz/88)

300 I would hope people start realizing there really is a grand jury in Florida that has been hearing evidence of a grand conspiracy for months and just because the garbage and likely treasonous media doesn't breathlessly report on it daily like Russia collusion doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Posted by: JackStraw

There are at least two grand juries--one in Atlanta in the Northern District of GA investigating Fulton County and probably the link between Fulton and Maricopa County via Runbeck providing ballots, etc. to both. The second is in SD of Florida looking at the Russia Russia hoax and probably involving illegal surveillance and FISA misconduct as well. Possibly more but these have verified court actions regarding subpoenas, witnesses, etc.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM (E4rtv)

301 Throwing out thousands of pages heavily redacted doesn't particularly help Trump's case in my opinion... I'm hoping this is a step towards indictments and convictions

Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM (3iJWA)

302 there is not sense even arguing with you.

And yet, here you are, unwanted, doing exactly that.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM (Riz8t)

303 =====
I think they rely on fingerprinting your system by cookies, and other such crap. If your browser settings kill those tracking devices, Cloudflare has a fit because your computer appears different to the system each time. So you get endless boxes to verify you are not a bot crap.

Posted by: whig
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The best way to circumvent that - Just Say No.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM (xHEjv)

304
I love that I can give a big fuck you to the dems while I sleep.
Giza Cotton Sheets and a My Pillow for the win.
Posted by: Reforger
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You're not David Hogg.

Posted by: David Hogg at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM (XeU6L)

305 Yank their FCC licenses.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM (qFwJc)

306 >>I didn't know there were Taco Bell offerings with lettuce.


I didn't know they offered anything but explosive diarrhea on their Menu.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM (uzmqU)

307 I didn't know they offered anything but explosive diarrhea on their Menu.
Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 01:11 PM


Projectile vomiting is a side order.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 17, 2026 01:12 PM (4NO2D)

308 Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:03 PM (p4NUW)

Trump is a weird guy but it worked.

Republicans haven't had someone who can actually talk to people about how dangerous our enemies within are since Reagan. Plus he masterful at branding. Have the Republicans even cooperated by 25% they would have had a revolution that would last 20 years. Easy. Still could. But doubtful.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 01:12 PM (/bHKT)

309 >>> I think they rely on fingerprinting your system by cookies, and other such crap. If your browser settings kill those tracking devices, Cloudflare has a fit because your computer appears different to the system each time. So you get endless boxes to verify you are not a bot crap.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:04 PM (E4rtv)

It will tag every computer on my home ethernet. The only way I've found a way out is to open up cloudflare's trouble shooting website. Hit a test page, fail out once, hit the retry button, pass, then bam I'm good for the rest of the day. No vpn. But every computer on my home subnet.

One company. They are close to controlling everything now. Like ICANN. I wonder if people realize how much cloudflare controls. Did that one day a year ago where computers all across the world fail to start up, just get memory holed? That was a cloudflare oopsie. Sorry for bringing the earth to a standstill, our bad.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 01:12 PM (3uBP9)

310 297 Zero disagreements. But the 2 women who were staffers were not his staffers. They were someone else’s.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (p4NUW)
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Ah, didn't know that. Thanks, Piper.

I guess I assumed too much and read too little.
Posted by: Axeman
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Keyword is yet. Someone that cavorts with another Congress critter that hires whores and also does the same DC dogging crap is likely to have a long pattern of behavior and pulling a string simply unravels and exposes the real truth.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:13 PM (E4rtv)

311 Don't know how it can be done, but we're going to have to confront the fact that a large portion of DotFed is staffed with apparat that have no interest in America as America. They see it as a disposable thing that can be traded, sold, or discarded for their own benefit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 17, 2026 01:13 PM (diia5)

312 By the way, the culprit is Taylor Farms, who supplies a lot of produce to a lot of sources, and has their own (good, when they don’t cause diarrhea) salad kits.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:13 PM (p4NUW)

313 >Trump: There Is Evidence of a Massive Chinese Effort to Compromise America's Voting Rolls -- But the Deep State Covered It Up
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tough hill to climb to make any of this stick

Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2026 01:14 PM (ZxPkt)

314
I'm sure the income statement of the DNC is scandalous, but the expenses is probably where all the laughs are.

Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2026 01:14 PM (Y8DZL)

315 It will tag every computer on my home ethernet. The only way I've found a way out is to open up cloudflare's trouble shooting website. Hit a test page, fail out once, hit the retry button, pass, then bam I'm good for the rest of the day. No vpn. But every computer on my home subnet.

One company. They are close to controlling everything now. Like ICANN. I wonder if people realize how much cloudflare controls. Did that one day a year ago where computers all across the world fail to start up, just get memory holed? That was a cloudflare oopsie. Sorry for bringing the earth to a standstill, our bad.
Posted by: banana Dream
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You can use them as your DNS servers and fwiw, and queries back and forth with the name server are encrypted to and from the server. Might help. I've used Google DNS servers as well in the past.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:14 PM (E4rtv)

316 The clogged toilet stopped vote COUNTING in 6 states…. What I meant to type, but all you smart morons knew that

It stunk to high heaven and I’m not talking about the toilet

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 01:10 PM (yz/8
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Well, not without a metaphor.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:15 PM (Fi81e)

317 My guess is that the networks thought that President Trump would be speaking about Fulton County last night. They likely had all of their talking points set.

Instead he threw them a curveball, and spoke about the fact that our media had been compromised by foreign entities.

While he was revealing they were compromised, they were kind enough to suppress his address....and prove his point!
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2026 01:05 PM (RHGPo)

***

Mrs D worked for years at a major NW-based Airplane company (that will remain nameless) and she was in their communication division where they had to deal with the media every day. She came away convinced the media, almost without exception, are the laziest, most egotistical, and corrupt group of people next to politicians.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 01:15 PM (2WIwB)

318 No evidence! Injunction ! - Chief Watchmewackoff, respected Hawaiian judge.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 17, 2026 01:15 PM (FIXtj)

319 >>Just do you, man. Light up another.

I'm not arguing with you dumbass new nic who has never posted here before. There has been a grand jury in the southern district of Florida hearing evidence of a conspiracy to deprive Trump of his rights since January.

Joe DiGenova was recently hired to help organize the vast amount of evidence, likely including this, because of the sheer scope of the conspiracy.

Are you really stupid enough to believe virtually every traditional media source decided to boycott a national speech by the President of the United States because they are offended by his orange hue?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 01:15 PM (viF8m)

320 All this crap makes me believe COVID was an op to take out Trump.
Posted by: nurse ratched.
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Of course it was. Of course the deep state has been working with the chi coms for a long time. FFS the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in Trumps first term called them and told them not to worry about Trump. . .

Biden and chinese money - Hunter and the laptop Rosemont . . .

Didn't clinton manage to give the chinks nuclear sub techology if I recall?

Its traitors all the way down.

Posted by: Connect the dots at July 17, 2026 01:15 PM (anL5R)

321 Nood. Iran.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (ExV1e)

322 Looking forward to part duex of this topic. Meanwhile, I have to go pick up J’s dry cleaning. I guess it’s the least I can do considering he bankrolls my princess lifestyle.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (p4NUW)

323 Ossoff and Warnock did cheat their way into office. My vote was stolen in that election. I walked into my voting location on Election Day and was told I had already voted by mail. I had never asked for, and never received a mail-in ballot. In Georgia, you have to request a mail-in ballot. I never did. If it happened to me it happened to many others. Ossof and Warnock are both illegitimately in the Senate.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (tWxgu)

324 I would hope people start realizing there really is a grand jury in Florida that has been hearing evidence of a grand conspiracy for months and just because the garbage and likely treasonous media doesn't breathlessly report on it daily like Russia collusion doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Yup. There are roughly 140 lawsuits from the RNC alone ongoing towards that end and several more from Harmeet Dhillon at DOJ. Getting elections into a less-cheatable state is the important part. Punishing the perps is satisfying, but they're out of power now so fixing elections as best as can be done prior to November is the 5-alarm emergency.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (2ocoG)

325 The best way to circumvent that - Just Say No.

Posted by: Braenyard
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You can, but you got through the process of verifying you are not a bot and bad gateway crap.

Due to bot army DDOS attacks and other such behavior from internet worms, Cloudfare has become standard for a lot of commercial websites.

Not something you can really avoid as it is on the server end, not yours.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 01:17 PM (E4rtv)

326 Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 01:15 PM (viF8m)

Probably that Scogg Dogg asshat. Just ignore him.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 17, 2026 01:17 PM (3Ope8)

327 Zero disagreements. But the 2 women who were staffers were not his staffers. They were someone else’s.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:00 PM (p4NUW)
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Ah, didn't know that. Thanks, Piper.

I guess I assumed too much and read too little.
Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:07 PM (Fi81e)
______

I believe both ladies were on his staff at the time, perhaps temporarily.

I don't care what adults do in private. But I think preying on subordinates -- even if technically not under your direct control -- is total sleaze and marks a man as a beta loser.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 01:17 PM (iFTx/)

328 By the way, the culprit is Taylor Farms, who supplies a lot of produce to a lot of sources, and has their own (good, when they don’t cause diarrhea) salad kits.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 01:13 PM (p4NUW)

Maybe the Taco Bell parasites and the bagged salad parasites are different enough that consuming both causes the parasites to fight and kill each other.

Could work.

Posted by: Chipotle at July 17, 2026 01:18 PM (dpXJq)

329 Probably that Scogg Dogg asshat. Just ignore him.

It's the onanist. The writing style is pretty distinctive.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (2ocoG)

330 I’m looking forward to multiple perp walks.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (FIXtj)

331 What Gallego did is still against the *zero-tolerance* policy the Clintons were pushing (mainly to redistribute power to the female, I believe, as most "sexual harassment" laws are) that said that "sex does not belong at work".

So even if Gallego was banging other congresscritters staffers, it would still run against the zero-tolerance for "sex in the workplace".

You don't think a congressman can get staffers on other staff fired? Don't you know who they are?!

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (Fi81e)

332 Lots of deeply concerned people who have never commented before on this thread. DNC check cashing machine must be working overtime.
..
Posted by: Ian S. at July 17, 2026 12:59 PM (xC


her a bot, there a bot, everywhere a bot-bot
Commissioner General Chen Yixin, Minister of State Security had a farm,
E-I-E-I-Oh!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (rbvCR)

333 >>There are at least two grand juries--one in Atlanta in the Northern District of GA investigating Fulton County and probably the link between Fulton and Maricopa County via Runbeck providing ballots, etc. to both. The second is in SD of Florida looking at the Russia Russia hoax and probably involving illegal surveillance and FISA misconduct as well. Possibly more but these have verified court actions regarding subpoenas, witnesses, etc.

It's worth tuning in to MS whatever they are calling themselves these days when Brennan is on. He is shitting himself because he is a target. He's already admitted as much.

Targeting the former head of the CIA for felonies is kind of big deal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (viF8m)

334 Not really mad at the Chinese. Of course they are going to try things to better themselves. Now the US governmental citizens who are happy to better themselves by selling the rest of us out....Trump Group better do something serious while they control whatever they actually control. No time for niceties and collegiate norms.

Posted by: Azjaeger at July 17, 2026 01:19 PM (mMytc)

335 >>>Trouser chili.

Posted by: toby928(c)

>That's the kind of stealth shart that really brings home the seriousness of the situation.

That's just not leakage do to old age.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 01:21 PM (sYM3s)

336 >>The shit never hits the fan.

Who is president, dumbass.

Play nice or I'll come let the air out of the tires under your house.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 17, 2026 01:21 PM (viF8m)

337 Don't know how it can be done, but we're going to have to confront the fact that a large portion of DotFed is staffed with apparat that have no interest in America as America. They see it as a disposable thing that can be traded, sold, or discarded for their own benefit.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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This. It boils down to the fact that their own political well-being/stature/status is more important than the well-being of the country.

One of the great appeals re Trump is that he is decidedly not a politician, in the conventional sense.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 01:22 PM (XeU6L)

338 I had to look Oanist up. Never seen that word before. I would think an Oanist would type one-handed. Mouse or Keyboard.
Posted by: Blues Junior
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Better to spill thy seed onto a keyboard than in the belly of a whore?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 01:25 PM (XeU6L)

339 Play nice or I'll come let the air out of the tires under your house.
Posted by: JackStraw
****

I'ma stealing dat.

Posted by: clarence at July 17, 2026 01:26 PM (1QT7n)

340 2014 and 2015, massive cyberattacks hit the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), resulting in the theft of sensitive background investigation and personnel records for over 22 million individuals. The breach was widely attributed by US officials and cybersecurity firms to state-sponsored Chinese hackers. (Including, but limited to, fingerprints, physical evaluations., specific service, addresses, relatives...)

Big shrug from the press, the public, even many feds. On average, two years of paid identify theft monitoring awarded.

Early 2014, it was revealed that the CIA secretly penetrated & searched computers used by Senate Intelligence Committee staffers. Staffers were reviewing the CIA's controversial detention & interrogation program. CIA Director Brennan initially denied the intrusion but was forced to formally apologize to lawmakers in July 2014 after an Inspector General's report confirmed the agency's actions.

Another big shrug, including from the then Pres and VP.

It's any f**king wonder years later 'they' were going to recycle those 'stunts,' bigger & better, especially with a rapidly rising immigrant population from 2000 through 2025?

Who's the 'they'?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 01:27 PM (NFX2v)

341 nood
As US Forces Knock Out Iranian Power Plants, the IRGC Tells Iranians to be Like the UK and France and Turn Off the AC and Die In the Summer Heat
—Disinformation Expert Ace

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026 01:30 PM (6wpGE)

342 Cloudflare, give me your independence I will give you... What? a few moments of extra free time?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:31 PM (xHEjv)

343 =====
You can, but you got through the process of verifying you are not a bot and bad gateway crap.

Due to bot army DDOS attacks and other such behavior from internet worms, Cloudfare has become standard for a lot of commercial websites.

Not something you can really avoid as it is on the server end, not yours.

Posted by: whig
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Is this a business necessity? If so why not have a separate computer with appropriate setting for that and a personal computer without the crap.
If it's personal why have anything to do with it at all?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 01:34 PM (xHEjv)

344 54 All this crap makes me believe COVID was an op to take out Trump.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 17, 2026 12:23 PM (W2Pud)


Consider the difference in response to the coronavirus epidemic in 2020 compared to the coronavirus epidemic in 2003. The timing with regard to a Republican president's reelection was similar. The difference may very well be that Bush went ahead and fed the military-industrial complex beast but Trump did not. Therefore the shutdown did not happen in 2003-2004 but did happen in 2020.

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (OlzlW)

345 AI Overview: In late 2023 and 2024, background check company National Public Data (NPD) suffered a massive data breach that exposed the personal information of nearly 3 billion records. Compromised data includes full names, Social Security numbers, mailing addresses, email addresses, and phone numbers.

Because NPD is a data broker that collects and aggregates public records and personal information (often without direct consumer interaction), anyone with a footprint in U.S., U.K., or Canada public records could be affected.

NPD's business model relied on extracting voter registration lists, court filings, property deeds, and arrest logs from municipal, state, and federal data bases.

Once aggregated, NPD sold access to this compiled information strictly to private commercial clients, such as background check services, human resource firms, insurance companies, and investigators.

In late 2024, NPD's parent company (Jerico Pictures, Inc.) filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and ceased operations.

No active settlements, and victims are unlikely to receive direct financial compensation from the company.

Oh, golly! Oh, gee!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 01:35 PM (NFX2v)

346 54 All this crap makes me believe COVID was an op to take out Trump.
Posted by: nurse ratched.

👍

Also, shut up &/or take out supporters, and move politicians around the nation to run for local, political offices, etc.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 01:39 PM (NFX2v)

347 Xi says this is not true and stomped his cloven hooves.

CNN is outraged and having explosive diarrhea.

I hope for arrests and wailing.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 17, 2026 01:41 PM (hzuYO)

348 "That information includes names, addresses, phone numbers, political party preferences, and other sensitive data that would be needed to register to vote and engage in other nefarious activities, which is exactly what was happening," Trump said.

OK, I'm calling bulls**t. They stole voter information. The stuff that would allow them to register to vote? Those people are ALREADY REGISTERED. Registering again won't accomplish much of anything. Maybe it allows them to try and vote a second time... but that's already a problem, without China's help.

Posted by: GWB at July 17, 2026 02:20 PM (kU0PQ)

349 I never took enough drugs to really enjoy Pink Floyd, even in the 70's. We cool kids thought Floyd fans were pu$$y losers.

So fight me.

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (sFNX2)

350 So fight me.
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (sFNX2)

Plays "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict" loudly.

Posted by: GWB at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (kU0PQ)

351 350 So fight me.
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 17, 2026 02:25 PM (sFNX2)

Plays "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict" loudly.
Posted by: GWB at July 17, 2026 02:41 PM (kU0PQ)

Ummagumma live disk is very good. The studio disk can be … challenging to listen to.

Posted by: Advo at July 18, 2026 10:43 AM (jO4mz)

352 Hiding the tainted produce in Taco Bell food is a stroke of genius.

Patient: I got explosive diarrhea after eating at Taco Bell.

Doctor: well…

Posted by: Advo at July 18, 2026 10:46 AM (jO4mz)

THE MORNING RANT: Brown University Professor Sets Trap for Students to Reveal they Cheated Using AI

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When a professor at Brown University decided that mid-term and final exams would be take-home tests following the campus shooting last December, he inadvertently set a trap that revealed the seriousness of AI cheating on exams.

Professor Roberto Serrano wrote a first-hand account of the AI cheating story at The Free Press (“I’m a Brown University Professor; Half My Students Are Cheating” ) but it’s behind a paywall.

For an account of the situation without a paywall, Inside Higher Ed gave the story wide exposure last week in a piece titled “Brown Professor Suspects Majority of His Class Used AI to Cheat

Here is a brief overview of the highlights (written by me, not by AI.)

• Roberto Serrano is an Economics professor at Brown, who teaches a course titled “Welfare Economics and Social Choice Theory.”

• This was the first time that Serrano was going to have the mid-term and final exam be in “take-home, closed-book” format rather than in-class as they had always been.

• The mid-term exam was accessible through an online portal, and students had an 11-hour window to complete it.

• Of the 86 students who took the mid-term, 40 had perfect scores. The average score was 96. By contrast, in prior semesters with in-class exams, the average scores ranged from 65 to 80.

• By running the test through ChatGPT, Serrano found that its AI answers closely mirrored what his students had written.

With this information, Professor Serrano announced to the class that he suspected many students had cheated using AI. He then sprung the trap by announcing:

1) The final exam was now going to be in-person.

2) The mid-term results would be considered void unless the final exam had a similar distribution of extraordinary grades.

In the words of Mr. Serrano “I am not declaring [the midterm] void for now. I am going to give the class a chance to prove me wrong. That is, if the distribution of the final exam is roughly similar to the distribution of the midterm, I will count the midterm. Otherwise, which is of course what I expect to happen, I will declare the midterm void and reweigh the final accordingly.”

Following that announcement, 27 of the 86 students either dropped the class entirely, or didn’t show up for the final exam. That is a whopping 31% who pretty much admitted to cheating on the mid-term.

But it gets even funnier for those who stayed in class:

• The remaining 59 students had an average score on the final exam of just 49%, a huge dropoff from the 96% average on the mid-term.

• Serrano therefore announced that the mid-term would not be counted in their grade. A score of 40 on the final was now required to pass. (This was lower than the 50 that was his previous pass threshold.)

• 19 of the remaining 59 students failed the class.

Below the fold is a chart showing the distribution of the 59 students’ final exam grades on the left, and their extraordinary, AI-assisted mid-term grades on the right.

A few students stand out. Especially noteworthy are the two students who clearly didn’t cheat:

• Student #1 scored a 95 on both exams.

• Student #22 scored a 55 on the midterm and then improved to a 59 on the final. S/he is the only student whose grade improved on the final.

• Two students scored a 100 on the mid-term and a 0 on the final.

Brown midterm bubble graph.png

Historically for employers, the importance of a college degree was that it served as an aptitude test, and it also documented that graduating students had endured a rigorous, four-year (or more) credentialing program. This scholastic tenacity was assumed to translate into a solid work ethic.

At this point, a mail-order diploma is as much a signifier of aptitude as a degree earned by ChatGPT, and the brazen use of AI to take an exam is no different than hiring a scholastic ringer to take the final for you. People in my day got expelled for doing that.

An actual education has almost nothing to do with why young adults are still going to college. There is still some residual prestige to having a degree from a name-brand university, and the power of networking is still strong. Plus, there is the pull of “the college experience.” But if the majority of students have no interest in actually getting an education, then the university model has run its course.

I almost feel sorry for the kids graduating college now, because there is an assumption that their degree is fraudulent due to AI. Even sadder, those who don’t cheat are almost certainly paying the price with a below-average GPA.

With all that said, if I were hiring right now, I’d try to find out who student number 22 is and hire him. He is smart enough to be a middle-of-the-pack student, and he’s ethical enough not to cheat, even when it’s an accepted practice by virtually all of his peers.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 10:52 AM




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1 ooo, early

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 10:55 AM (XHO5P)

2 But still first!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 10:56 AM (XHO5P)

3 Wow, that distribution suggests that maybe 3 people didn't cheat.

But what can we expect when we make men without chests?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 10:58 AM (XHO5P)

4 Here! Still reading content.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 10:58 AM (NFX2v)

5 I guess I better nood, no one will think it's already up.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 10:59 AM (XHO5P)

6 I've never had to nood the morning rant, though. Do I do the art thread for a nood?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 10:59 AM (XHO5P)

7 Eh, people will figure it out.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:00 AM (XHO5P)

8 Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:00 AM (8fTKG)

9 Nice to see that Brown took a break from indoctrinating their students in anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism and pro-socialist dogma long enough to teach them about "Welfare Economics and Social Choice Theory."
Oh, wait...

Never mind.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 17, 2026 11:00 AM (MNCvZ)

10 Sounds like solid C/C+ students will be our hope for the future.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 17, 2026 11:01 AM (cWLG3)

11 With all that said, if I were hiring right now, I’d try to find out who student number 22 is and hire him. He is smart enough to be a middle-of-the-pack student, and he’s ethical enough not to cheat, even when it’s an accepted practice by virtually all of his peers.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 10:52 AM

It's hard to find that guy because that doesn't show up on a resume.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:01 AM (XHO5P)

12 In HS, I had to stop giving out a simple assignment of ten questions based on a period of history I was teaching. Why? The students would C&P the answers from the Net and they did so very poorly. (A question about Czar Nicolas I inevitably has C&P answers that pertained to Nicolas II, for example.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 17, 2026 11:01 AM (4g5V+)

13 I almost feel sorry for the kids graduating college now, because there is an assumption that their degree is fraudulent due to AI. Even sadder, those who don’t cheat are almost certainly paying the price with a below-average GPA.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 10:52 AM

I've decided I need to be racist when I'm picking a new doctor.

If it's a young doctor, I will only accept a white male. Because I know he didn't skate by with shoddy work.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:02 AM (XHO5P)

14 Learning how to use AI.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2026 11:02 AM (Q+gd/)

15 11 With all that said, if I were hiring right now, I’d try to find out who student number 22 is and hire him. He is smart enough to be a middle-of-the-pack student, and he’s ethical enough not to cheat, even when it’s an accepted practice by virtually all of his peers.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 10:52 AM

It's hard to find that guy because that doesn't show up on a resume.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:01 AM (XHO5P)

And he probably doesn’t “know people”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 17, 2026 11:02 AM (4g5V+)

16 College students cheated? Umpossible.

I've mentioned before that at the Catholic school in Oak Ridge, the good Sisters require all assignments to be done in class, with no electronics, and to be written in cursive to help keep the cheating down. The parents of the students love it.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2026 11:02 AM (pyNYl)

17
I almost feel sorry for the kids graduating college now, because there is an assumption that their degree is fraudulent due to AI.


Time to switch to trade school, kiddos. You can't fake a weld, a plumbing repair, wiring a structure, and so forth.

Unless faking it is your modus operandi. Your barista career awaits you!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 11:03 AM (s9VOe)

18 I almost feel sorry for the kids graduating college now, because they were weaned on cock

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 17, 2026 11:03 AM (Kt19C)

19 If I were a professor, I would assign my students writing assignments that had to be explicitly racist or anti-Semitic in nature.

Because AI has been programmed to refuse these topics, students would not be able to use it to write their papers.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 17, 2026 11:03 AM (uSpHL)

20 I almost feel sorry for the kids graduating college now, because there is an assumption that their degree is fraudulent due to AI. Even sadder, those who don’t cheat are almost certainly paying the price with a below-average GPA.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 10:52 AM

I've decided I need to be racist when I'm picking a new doctor.

If it's a young doctor, I will only accept a white male. Because I know he didn't skate by with shoddy work.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:02 AM (XHO5P)

I say this because it's a similar dilemma: we know the universities are not a useful tool for determining competence.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:03 AM (XHO5P)

21 217
Community note
Broadcast networks have declined primetime addresses from Democratic presidents before. In 2022, ABC, CBS and NBC skipped Biden’s speech on threats to democracy for reruns. In 2014, they declined Obama’s immigration address as too political.

Damin Toell
@damintoell
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When Biden gave his primetime Independence Hall address in 2022 (the one with the scary red background that people still post images of), ABC ran Press Your Luck, NBC ran a Law & Order rerun, and CBS ran a Young Sheldon rerun.

Posted by: m at July 17, 2026
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I give.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:04 AM (xHEjv)

22 I always learned more from open book tests. If I had to find the answer and apply it, it stuck

Posted by: Ventura Highway at July 17, 2026 11:04 AM (S+j2h)

23 #22?

Isn't 31 the more impressive student? Honest on the midterm and capable of learning.

Posted by: purely an academic question at July 17, 2026 11:05 AM (F/35S)

24 When I was in college, all tests were in class. I don't see a problem with returning to that system.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

25 S31 probably didn't cheat, or the midterm score would be higher.

I'm guessing s/he studied before the midterm but spent the night before finals chugging white claw and dick.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 17, 2026 11:05 AM (BI5O2)

26 Brown University is like shit heel of the ivy league. Even Stanford laughs at them.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 11:05 AM (sYM3s)

27 Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:00 AM (8fTKG)

This happens to me, I dream that I am not gonna graduate

Posted by: Ventura Highway at July 17, 2026 11:06 AM (S+j2h)

28 I cheated at auto racing all 22 times I won

Cheating made me a lot of money

Posted by: The Ballots at July 17, 2026 11:06 AM (LOZbR)

29 Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!
Posted by: Common Tater

Me too.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2026 11:06 AM (lJ0H4)

30 I’m a Brown University Professor
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I'm annoyed at how this sentence has to be interpreted in "modern"" times. I can't keep up with their bullshit. Meanwhile the sentence is actually totally innocuous.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:06 AM (/bHKT)

31 I went back to college in the 2010s for a comp sci degree. I couldn't believe how bitchy little spoiled brats the students were. And what they were allowed to get away with. The AE profs I had, just a few decades earlier, would have smiled with glee before they tore into you for showing any weakness.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 11:07 AM (3uBP9)

32 The answer is go back to in-person tests either in a classroom or in a proctored testing center. Blue books and hand-written answers.

Posted by: Rick Tq at July 17, 2026 11:07 AM (xeXUW)

33 The prevalence of AI assisted/enhanced degrees, is yet another nail in the eventual coffin of credentialism. A good thing, IMO. More and more we move to "What can you do?" versus "Where did you get your credential? or What credential do you have?" In other words AI is facilitating the bursting of the "Education Bubble."

Posted by: RS at July 17, 2026 11:08 AM (GYx3d)

34 always learned more from open book tests. If I had to find the answer and apply it, it stuck

Depends on the subject. Some subjects are merely regurgitation of random facts. Those are the ones most susceptible to cheating. However, when I was in STEM grad school, almost all tests were open book and take home. If you didn't understand the material, you really couldn't cheat, because it was immediately obvious you didn't understand the material. The only way to cheat would have been for someone else to take the test for you.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

35 "Historically for employers, the importance of a college degree was that it served as an aptitude test, . . . This scholastic tenacity was assumed to translate into a solid work ethic."

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I'd love to see Griggs v. Duke Power Co. overturned. You know to level the playing field for ALL!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2026 11:08 AM (pyNYl)

36 The answer is go back to in-person tests either in a classroom or in a proctored testing center. Blue books and hand-written answers.
Posted by: Rick Tq at July 17, 2026 11:07 AM (xeXUW)

Rectal Procter, school doctor

Posted by: Ventura Highway at July 17, 2026 11:08 AM (S+j2h)

37 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:08 AM (2YhKe)

38 In the BC years (Before Clankers), someone fresh out of college at least had managed to do something, e.g., pay attention long enough to graduate. Certifications could be even more specialized.

Now certifications are a 'subscribe to win' treadmill and college teaches nothing except how to cheat and party and be a commie.

The credentialism establishment can't die fast enough.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 17, 2026 11:09 AM (aJQbY)

39
Open books and closed minds -- the contributions of higher education could not be more worthless.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 11:09 AM (s9VOe)

40 Take home and open book examinations were never a good idea. The trouble with AI is that any kind of unsupervised work (e.g. term papers) is now suspect. I never much cared for essay questions on tests - thinking problem sets and short answer questions were apposite for examinations - but now they will be necessary.

Posted by: Art Deco at July 17, 2026 11:09 AM (pawNB)

41 But what can we expect when we make men without chests?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 10:58 AM (XHO5P)

...and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.

Posted by: The feminist and tradcon agenda at July 17, 2026 11:09 AM (TbWk/)

42 Some percentage of time spent in college was devoted to cheating. It's always been so. AI has made it effortless however.

It's made a lot of things that used to require actual analysis and thought, effortless.

It shows in the online and in person discourse on most anything.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 11:09 AM (jehhT)

43 "Historically for employers, the importance of a college degree was that it served as an aptitude test, and it also documented that graduating students had endured a rigorous, four-year (or more) credentialing program. This scholastic tenacity was assumed to translate into a solid work ethic."

Historical note. Once employers were barred from giving aptitude tests (because... "racism"), they fell back on using degrees as a proxy like this. Total fucking retarded waste of societal time and money, especially since the military was exempt and has used the ASVAB for decades.

Some people are only good for digging holes or bagging groceries and pretending they can be astronauts or doctors or skilled office workers is delusional. Of course, the progs didn't wreck 3 generations with student debt exactly by accident, either. Give credit where it is due, when they start wrecking things, they realize quickly and iterate on it to wreck even more.

Posted by: heya at July 17, 2026 11:09 AM (ND37T)

44 I will admit, the internet made my career slightly easier as there's a vast wealth of knowledge there.

It's also removed the requirement for me to take notes, remember and store a knowledge base.

We're getting dumber because of technology.

YMMV

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:10 AM (2YhKe)

45 I've decided I need to be racist when I'm picking a new doctor.

If it's a young doctor, I will only accept a white male. Because I know he didn't skate by with shoddy work.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:02 AM (XHO5P)


That's not racist...that's understanding the medical education system.

Personally, I add Jewish or Italian or WASP to the mix, because they are underrepresented with the double whammy of White and the wrong ethnic group.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 11:10 AM (l4RKn)

46 > 24 When I was in college, all tests were in class. I don't see a problem with returning to that system.

Posted by: Archimedes
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And 50 a passing grade?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:10 AM (xHEjv)

47 The prevalence of AI assisted/enhanced degrees, is yet another nail in the eventual coffin of credentialism. A good thing, IMO. More and more we move to "What can you do?" versus "Where did you get your credential? or What credential do you have?" In other words AI is facilitating the bursting of the "Education Bubble."

My daughter is a CS person, and the interview process for jobs in CS has become almost like taking a CS course in length and rigor. I guess the companies have figured out that credentials no longer mean much.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t)

48 In tech employment, AI attitudes are schizophrenic.

In interviews a candidate using AI is verboten. But if hired, the same candidate who can’t use AI during an interview is expected to do all their work with AI. To the point where some employees are reprimanded if they use too little AI.



Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:11 AM (2hwDr)

49 How many teachers are using AI to grade exams?

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2026 11:11 AM (Q+gd/)

50 I've decided I need to be racist when I'm picking a new doctor
——-

They’ve been cultivating racial hatreds for decades now, it is absolutely vile. It sucks but they are very insistent about this.

Posted by: Getting There at July 17, 2026 11:11 AM (8fTKG)

51 If it's a young doctor, I will only accept a white male. Because I know he didn't skate by with shoddy work.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian


Based upon what I saw the last time I took classes 20 years ago, that may not be an entirely justified conclusion...

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 17, 2026 11:12 AM (OUMaO)

52 But can they still shop, drink and fuck?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 17, 2026 11:12 AM (YlWIZ)

53 The answer is go back to in-person tests either in a classroom or in a proctored testing center. Blue books and hand-written answers.

Posted by: Rick Tq

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Seconded.

Any school that made this a policy would probably get noticed both by students and hiring managers.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 17, 2026 11:12 AM (4HoLg)

54 Open Book tests were hard!

Or at least they used to be. Now the book is on students' laptops, and I am confident that they cheat even on a proctored test.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 11:13 AM (l4RKn)

55 33 The prevalence of AI assisted/enhanced degrees, is yet another nail in the eventual coffin of credentialism. A good thing, IMO. More and more we move to "What can you do?" versus "Where did you get your credential? or What credential do you have?" In other words AI is facilitating the bursting of the "Education Bubble."
Posted by: RS at July 17, 2026 11:08 AM (GYx3d)

What would you say...you do here?

Posted by: The Bobs at July 17, 2026 11:13 AM (TbWk/)

56 The only people I remember cheating in college were the foreigners, asians mostly, and they cheated a lot. Every homework was done as a group. They had libraries of past tests, they used every trick they could get. Still didn't do that well.

The ME foreigners were too busy trying to get their hands on white girls to take part in any cheating at all. And their goal was to stay in college with bad grades until their rich family dragged them back.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 11:13 AM (3uBP9)

57 Brown?

A college that brings to mind a sh*tpile.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 17, 2026 11:13 AM (GC/eJ)

58 I'd love to see Griggs v. Duke Power Co. overturned. You know to level the playing field for ALL!

IIRC, there is an expectation that this is coming soon.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t)

59 Proof-based math classes always relied on take home exams because a formal proof take a long time to develop. I wonder how AI has changed this. I think I would want to have my students meet with me independently and explain their work. That still leaves open the possibility that the student ripped the proof from AI, but at least they took the time, and the had the ability, to comprehend the work.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2ap+5)

60
That's not racist...that's understanding the medical education system.

Personally, I add Jewish or Italian or WASP to the mix, because they are underrepresented with the double whammy of White and the wrong ethnic group.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 11:10 AM (l4RKn)




Hello for you. My name is Doctor Manish. Please to be telling me how I can diagnose you today.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2YhKe)

61 Whatever happened to looking over the smart kid's shoulder for test answers and finding out he's as dumb as you.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (gm9Sb)

62 No wonder the 'elites' call testing "raycist."

It culls out chaff like them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2GVsD)

63 “Following that announcement, 27 of the 86 students either dropped the class entirely”

Dropped the class during finals? In my day I had something like 3 weeks to drop classes. Past that point it was locked in and it was an F if you decided not to show up.

Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2hwDr)

64 AI will both be required (and prohibited).

Regurgitating only Approved Narratives, same as it ever was.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (8fTKG)

65
A college that brings to mind a sh*tpile.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 17, 2026 11:13 AM (GC/eJ)



You're in San Fran. I bet you see a lot of brown every day.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2YhKe)

66
But can they still shop, drink and fuck?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey


And choose copiously among the many varieties of self disfigurement provided in today's vibrant market places?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (s9VOe)

67 32 The answer is go back to in-person tests either in a classroom or in a proctored testing center. Blue books and hand-written answers.
Posted by: Rick Tq at July 17, 2026 11:07 AM (xeXUW)

Any good teacher can find a way to test knowledge, skills, and effort. College professors have just learned that their own laziness doesn't work anymore.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (tOcjL)

68 Does this asshole supply his stupid fucking mental fuck up indoctrination questions in the article?

I want to know what the respective exams were asking, and expecting for answers. Numbers don't tell me anything.

I'm not saying students didn't use AI. I'm saying a chart of numbers might as well as be a professor's piss stain. Show me what the exams each asked and how they were graded.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (/bHKT)

69 Take home exams in college and, wink wink, closed book?

Really?

Posted by: WisRich at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (G0vdT)

70 19 If I were a professor, I would assign my students writing assignments that had to be explicitly racist or anti-Semitic in nature.
Because AI has been programmed to refuse these topics, students would not be able to use it to write their papers.
Posted by: Based Conservative at July 17, 2026 11:03 AM (uSpHL)


You'd need to be plausibly deniable here.
Maybe something on the Bantu Expansions or intra-African slavery, better yet a defense of certain colonial projects or even a comparison between Portugal's adventures and Oman's. In the US: an indepth look at Reconstruction perhaps?
As for antisemitism, that's gay, but assigning David "Stein" Cole on proper Holocaust critique would be an epic troll.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (gKWVE)

71 "My daughter is a CS person, and the interview process for jobs in CS has become almost like taking a CS course in length and rigor. I guess the companies have figured out that credentials no longer mean much.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:10 AM"

Elder Son, M.S. Comp Sci & Math, pre AI does interviews for his company. He can spot AI phonies a mile off. Most are from the so-called blue chip STEM schools.

Posted by: RS at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (GYx3d)

72 In interviews a candidate using AI is verboten. But if hired, the same candidate who can’t use AI during an interview is expected to do all their work with AI. To the point where some employees are reprimanded if they use too little AI.

I think it means the company expects that someone will have a sufficient knowledge and skills base to know when AI gets it wrong, which it often does.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (Riz8t)

73 Heh.

This is absolutely necessary, in college and before.
We risk having our next generation learning nothing except how to query the information needed at the moment, worthless without phone/laptop/internet/AI.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (X8xt3)

74 Dropped the class during finals? In my day I had something like 3 weeks to drop classes. Past that point it was locked in and it was an F if you decided not to show up.

Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2hwDr)

=======

My worst nightmare in college was that I had signed up for a class that I'd forgotten to attend and now it was past the date where I could drop it.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (2ap+5)

75 Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!
Posted by: Common Tater

Me too.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2026 11:06 AM (lJ0H4)

Occasionally I have a dream where I'm back in high school. I'm wandering around, don't know where my classes are, don't know the combination for my locker, etc. Then it becomes fun since I can eventually tell if I'm dreaming. A teacher tries to give me shit for wandering around, and I'll say something like "yeah, blow it out your ass, I already graduated years ago, my diploma is old enough to vote, me go now". lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (S41Gd)

76 Yearlings past, sorority girls worked in professor's office, made copies of his tests and passed them to their fraternity brothers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:16 AM (xHEjv)

77 >>> Dropped the class during finals? In my day I had something like 3 weeks to drop classes. Past that point it was locked in and it was an F if you decided not to show up.

Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2hwDr)

There's also an (I) incomplete. Which just means the same thing and has an effect on your GPA.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 11:16 AM (3uBP9)

78 >>Dropped the class during finals? In my day I had something like 3 weeks to drop classes. Past that point it was locked in and it was an F if you decided not to show up.

By allowing you to Drop the course at any time, I am sure they have a higher rate of people paying to re-take the course than those that they Fail outright.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:16 AM (uzmqU)

79 Shitass economics deserves to be answered by AI. The degree is worthless. Always was. The idiot isn't testing organic chemistry, the entire point of these exams is simple regurgitation. Of course the answers are easily recreated by AI.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:16 AM (/bHKT)

80 Looks like 5 students did not cheat. S1, S2, S8, S22, maybe S31

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 17, 2026 11:16 AM (wGerL)

81 "...I’d try to find out who student number 22 is and hire him. He is smart enough to be a middle-of-the-pack student..."


Right there in the meaty part of the curve!

https://youtu.be/M0AuU7maBMU

Posted by: George Costanza at July 17, 2026 11:17 AM (2Ez/1)

82
The ME foreigners were too busy trying to get their hands on white girls to take part in any cheating at all. And their goal was to stay in college with bad grades until their rich family dragged them back.

Posted by: banana Dream

====

My experience was different. Engineering school and the ME students all but moved their desks into a circle around the person they'd be copying from.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 17, 2026 11:17 AM (4HoLg)

83
There's also an (I) incomplete. Which just means the same thing and has an effect on your GPA.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 11:16 AM (3uBP9)



The I, I believe, gives you a chance to retake and replace that grade. I think you can replace an F once by retaking that class as well.

Still costs you $$$$ tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:17 AM (2YhKe)

84 There is still some residual prestige to having a degree from a name-brand university, and the power of networking is still strong.

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When I entered a small private liberal arts college in 1979 -- whose economics department was considered elite and almost all believed in and taught the "Austrian School" of Economics -- the motto of the school, displayed proudly on t-shirts given to the entering freshmen each year was:

"Sex, Drugs, Rock 'n' Roll, and The Wall Street Journal."

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 11:17 AM (9EFgU)

85 I've decided I need to be racist when I'm picking a new doctor.

I don't call it racist. I call it "looking out for my own self interest."

Posted by: NR Pax at July 17, 2026 11:17 AM (99eI0)

86 >>In interviews a candidate using AI is verboten. But if hired, the same candidate who can’t use AI during an interview is expected to do all their work with AI. To the point where some employees are reprimanded if they use too little AI.


They want it both ways.
Similar to expecting candidates to be 10% qualified/experienced for a job, and when they can't find one, they hire an H1B* who learns on the job.

*We are long past the point of H1Bs being used for specialized knowledge jobs. They are now used for 7-11, entry-level university admin, resort golf course jobs, etc..

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 11:17 AM (X8xt3)

87 I want that professor to teach ethics and statistics classes.

Posted by: Roy at July 17, 2026 11:17 AM (qwype)

88 Back in my day, when blue books were made of papyrus, having an open book test didn't make things any easier because you were required to have already processed the material and be capable of synthesizing and providing critical analysis (not in the critical theory way). It was helpful to find specific facts or what have you, but if you were going to bomb the book wasn't going to help.

Posted by: Let the name of ChatGPT be stricken from every book and tablet at July 17, 2026 11:18 AM (TbWk/)

89 >>>The answer is go back to in-person tests either in a classroom or in a proctored testing center. Blue books and hand-written answers.

>This was the only thing I remember. The digital age was still running on punch cards.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 11:18 AM (sYM3s)

90 take-home, closed-book

That is the stupidist test condition I have ever heard. That would be impossible to police 40 years ago, let alone today.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 17, 2026 11:18 AM (0GLZr)

91 think it means the company expects that someone will have a sufficient knowledge and skills base to know when AI gets it wrong, which it often does.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (Riz8t)

Yeah that’s fine. But why not interview that way? Give the candidate a problem and have them solve it using AI. Then walk through the steps taken to make sure the candidate understands what the AI created.

Instead the interview questions are memorization questions.

Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:18 AM (2hwDr)

92 73 Heh.

This is absolutely necessary, in college and before.
We risk having our next generation learning nothing except how to query the information needed at the moment, worthless without phone/laptop/internet/AI.

Posted by: Lizzy
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Job applicants will be given pre-interview tests in a clean room.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:18 AM (xHEjv)

93 This is absolutely necessary, in college and before.
We risk having our next generation learning nothing except how to query the information needed at the moment, worthless without phone/laptop/internet/AI.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (X8xt3)

I think we are better off with a generation of people who haven't bothered to learn leftist indoctrination and just queue it up from AI when they need it.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:18 AM (/bHKT)

94 I suspect nightmares are Darwin's way of ensuring you don't like to sleep too much. Imagine if all dreams were about wrestling Sophie Cunningham all night. Half of us wouldn't want to wake up

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 11:19 AM (gKWVE)

95 Students at an "Elite" school and they don't know that you don't get perfect when you cheat. SMH. What is wrong with these fools?

Posted by: fozzy at July 17, 2026 11:19 AM (zH2yS)

96 "7 Eh, people will figure it out.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:00 AM (XHO5P)"

The majority of civilizations to have ever existed said this and then proceeded to implode.

What we are doing is not working on a lot of levels, and we are headed the same way. Performative bullshit "education". Tolerating groups dedicated to our destruction. Importing hordes of cousin-fucking/street-shitting barbarians. Etc. Our nation is glaringly, blatantly more dysfunctional, poor, and violent than a mere 30 years ago.

The most I have personally managed to get out of anyone over 55 or so on these problems is "well I'll be dead so haha whatever"

It will take a lot more than just "figuring it out" for our culture and nation to exist in 2100.

Posted by: heya at July 17, 2026 11:19 AM (ND37T)

97 I have an engineering professor who is playing the "arms race" against AI in his class.

Lots of students are using AI. It's an online class so it's vey easy for them to cheat, even when the instructor uses an online proctoring tool. Students are clever about getting around them.

The reality is that graduating students WILL use AI in their jobs because that is the expectation. Companies will use AI for lower-level tasks. It's up to students who want a job to demonstrate they know how to leverage AI to do the hard stuff (like geospatial engineering). And can do it better than AI by itself.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 11:19 AM (FZ29D)

98 I don't have the college or class dreams but I still often have the naked dreams where I'm out & about and suddenly notice I'm naked and try to hide it with a piece of paper or a grocery bag hoping the people looking right at me don't notice and I'm horrifically embarrassed.

Probably a lot going on in my noggin I don't want to know about.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (3uBP9)

99 We risk having our next generation learning nothing except how to query the information needed at the moment, worthless without phone/laptop/internet/AI.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (X8xt3)



Remember, millennials think they're the smartest generation ever because they grew up with a computer in their hand.

Then they turn around and say things like "we need a hard wired phone for times when cell phones don't work" as if they've just cured cancer.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (2YhKe)

100 Blue Books, oh, the horror.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (xHEjv)

101 Something few want to acknowledge: The famous adage that "C students run the world" (often attributed to President Harry S. Truman) continues to hold a surprising amount of truth today.

Between the PhDs I worked with, often worthless in the agency in their own right, who also worked as adjunct professors and then, when back in the office, constantly whined over grad students trying so very hard - just not cutting it - and then threatening to have their important family members speak with the Dean to have grades changed. In the end, they always changed those grades higher.

AND

Hunter Biden attending Yale Law School, transferring there after completing his first year at the Georgetown University Law Center, and graduating with his Juris Doctor (JD) degree in 1996. Working for the US Commerce Department, going into the U.S. Navy as an Officer.

Much of it was BS for years.

Class structure, family networking, DEI, weird new educational programs still holds the norms mostly in the middle.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (NFX2v)

102 I am not a number. I am a free man!

Posted by: Student #22 at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (Cqx++)

103 At Stanford in the mid-80s, their policy for dropping a class was:

. you could drop it at ANYTIME throughout the term; including
. if you took the final exam and decided NOT to turn it in, you were considered to have dropped the class.

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (9EFgU)

104 The Spies Like Us cheating scene was a classic.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (wOO3z)

105 think it means the company expects that someone will have a sufficient knowledge and skills base to know when AI gets it wrong, which it often does.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (Riz8t)

Yeah that’s fine. But why not interview that way? Give the candidate a problem and have them solve it using AI. Then walk through the steps taken to make sure the candidate understands what the AI created.


I don't disagree. That's an argument for better testing methods, which I think we all want.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

106 Oral 1-on-1 in person exams beat AI every time...10 minutes a student for a 20 person class fills the 3 1/2 hour exam time...

Student can leave the oral exam and write a response back to the professor fixing anything he knew he didn't know or got wrong to earn half points back (testing effort and care, even if AI is included)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2026 11:21 AM (tOcjL)

107 >Imagine if all dreams were about wrestling Sophie Cunningham all night.

Especially the part when she points and laughs.

Posted by: davidt at July 17, 2026 11:21 AM (Q+gd/)

108 All my medical "professionals" are white. Younger than me (which is pretty easy.) Even the various assistants are all white; X-ray techs, phlebotomists, PT, etc. Predominantly females. They like to discuss shoes.*

*I wear "barefoot" style kicks during the summer because I hate wearing regular shoes. So it opens up a conversation with them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 11:21 AM (jehhT)

109 These students are dummies.

The first rule of Cheat Club is not to get 100% of the answers correct. You have to build in a few wrong answers so it looks like you did the work yourself.

Amateurs.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 11:21 AM (iFTx/)

110 I almost feel sorry for the kids graduating college now, because there is an assumption that their degree is fraudulent ...

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* Affirmative Action and DEI hires have entered the post *

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 11:21 AM (9EFgU)

111
The reality is that graduating students WILL use AI in their jobs because that is the expectation. Companies will use AI for lower-level tasks. It's up to students who want a job to demonstrate they know how to leverage AI to do the hard stuff (like geospatial engineering). And can do it better than AI by itself.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 11:19 AM (FZ29D)



I have yet to use AI for anything. I even close the CoPilot app when it autoloads on my computers.

I guess you can say I'm fighting it tooth and nail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:22 AM (2YhKe)

112 the motto of the school, displayed proudly on t-shirts given to the entering freshmen each year was:

"Sex, Drugs, Rock 'n' Roll, and The Wall Street Journal."


Broads, Buicks and Buckley!

Posted by: Steve Dallas at July 17, 2026 11:22 AM (wBRco)

113 This was the only thing I remember. The digital age was still running on punch cards.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

Computer majors walking around campus with their rubber banded stacks of punch cards.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2026 11:23 AM (lJ0H4)

114 >>Especially the part when she points and laughs.


That's only was when she wrestles BananaDream.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:23 AM (uzmqU)

115 Or at least they used to be. Now the book is on students' laptops, and I am confident that they cheat even on a proctored test.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2026 11:13 AM (l4RKn)
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Yep. Proctoring software just keeps the honest students honest. Like the lock on your front door.

Determined students are VERY clever about circumventing the proctoring software. They see it as a personal challenge.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 11:23 AM (FZ29D)

116 The Spies Like Us cheating scene was a classic.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2026 11:20 AM (wOO3z)



I watched that movie the night my mom cut her fingers off with a table saw.

"Every minute you don't tell us why you're here, we cut off a finger......"

I was a mess at that point........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:23 AM (2YhKe)

117 13. If it's a young doctor, I will only accept a white male. Because I know he didn't skate by with shoddy work.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

In my region, they're the biggest bangers of the DEI drums and the need to attend annual "Medicare" physicals.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 11:24 AM (NFX2v)

118 I have yet to use AI for anything. I even close the CoPilot app when it autoloads on my computers.

I guess you can say I'm fighting it tooth and nail.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:22 AM (2YhKe)
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I use it on a semi-regular basis. For instance, when troubleshooting HTML code that's broken or when I want to do something with HTML and it walks me through the thing I want to do.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 11:24 AM (FZ29D)

119 The head of the Bonneville Power Administration in Portland just resigned, and I asked one of the AI models about the guy. The guy is in his mid-50s.

The AI model correctly informed me about his being the head of the Bonneville Power Administration, and then went on to inform me that he had played baseball for the Chicago Cubs in 1969 (I believe that was his father).

Yeah, I'm going to trust AI.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2026 11:25 AM (u6/wt)

120 107 >Imagine if all dreams were about wrestling Sophie Cunningham all night.

Especially the part when she points and laughs.


A man's got to know his limitations.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:25 AM (Riz8t)

121 I use it on a semi-regular basis. For instance, when troubleshooting HTML code that's broken or when I want to do something with HTML and it walks me through the thing I want to do.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 11:24 AM (FZ29D)



I can see that. I don't do programming or code anymore, so it's easier to avoid.

I'm more of a grunt these days.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:25 AM (2YhKe)

122 You're in San Fran. I bet you see a lot of brown every day.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:14 AM (2YhKe)
=====

Which is why Imma expert!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 17, 2026 11:25 AM (GC/eJ)

123 Something few want to acknowledge: The famous adage that "C students run the world" (often attributed to President Harry S. Truman) continues to hold a surprising amount of truth today.

///

This is true. But it’s not because people who run the world are dumb. The C students who run things spent their time networking and building relationships instead of spending their nights in the library getting As.

That network and a 3.0 GPA is far more valuable than the 4.0 GPA.

Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:25 AM (2hwDr)

124 Even sadder, those who don’t cheat are almost certainly paying the price with a below-average GPA.

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My understanding from some time ago (assume it hasn't changed unless it's gotten worse) is that owing to "grade inflation," virtually nobody at an "elite" university gets a grade below a "B" [using Grok to confirm: "Grades below B do exist but are uncommon overall, and the distribution is heavily compressed at the top"].

Posted by: ShainS -- He of The Unnecessary Vowels! at July 17, 2026 11:26 AM (9EFgU)

125 have yet to use AI for anything. I even close the CoPilot app when it autoloads on my computers.

I guess you can say I'm fighting it tooth and nail.


Same, but then, my job doesn't depend on my ability to use AI. Retirement is bliss.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:26 AM (Riz8t)

126 "Oh no, Sophie.... YOU WIN AGAIN!!!"

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:26 AM (/bHKT)

127 In law school, my torts final was a 3-day take home, open book. This was 1993. I picked my exam up around 10 a.m., back to my grad student dorm room by 10:15. 11 a.m. my law school classmate in a nearby dorm room comes in and asks if I also think the exam is hard. I say, "no". As he comes closer to my desk he cries out, "Are you drinking a beer???" "Yes. You want one?" It was 3-day take home. I had several beers. He had none. (I got the 3rd highest grade on the exam.)

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 17, 2026 11:26 AM (DZ9Lv)

128
My (now long over) education nightmare was being told that I could not finish working on my Chemistry Ph.D. because the school learned that I had not taken an English class to satisfy that requirement for my Batchelor if Science degree. (I had done so, but for only one academic quarter because I had been well schooled in writing in high school.)

That foolishness plagued me over the course of about six months before my sleeping self gave it the boot. All this occurred decades after I had left higher education behind.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 11:27 AM (s9VOe)

129 75 Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!
Posted by: Common Tater

Me too.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2026 11:06 AM (lJ0H4)


I had this same recurrent nightmare for more than a decade after finishing school (much prolonged by law school afterward) plus variants, like: an hour late to the final due to sleeping through alarm; stopped reading books for a course in the English department early in the semester and now had to read a half dozen or so novels while cramming for other courses. On and on. I sometimes wonder about my sanity. Doesn't seem like something that should haunt you for that long.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 17, 2026 11:27 AM (tgl2u)

130 Did someone say oral exam?

Posted by: Ms. Fluke at July 17, 2026 11:27 AM (2hwDr)

131 By allowing you to Drop the course at any time, I am sure they have a higher rate of people paying to re-take the course than those that they Fail outright.
Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:16 AM (uzmqU)

Colleges largely aren't in the education business they're in the tuition collecting business. It's the enshittification model yet again.

Posted by: Fleece fleece fleece some more at July 17, 2026 11:27 AM (TbWk/)

132 AI was very useful in helping me do some plumbing around the house and bringing an old refrigerator that had sat unplugged in the basement for years back from the dead. It does require a bit of common sense because it is completely wrong from time to time.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 11:27 AM (2ap+5)

133 Looking for a better outcome? Test their shopping, drinking and fucking. Oh, wait. Just search browser histories.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 17, 2026 11:28 AM (YlWIZ)

134
Which is why Imma expert!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 17, 2026 11:25 AM (GC/eJ)



What can brown do for you.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:28 AM (2YhKe)

135 You'd need to be plausibly deniable here.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 17, 2026 11:15 AM (gKWVE)




Oh, it couldn't be done in actuality. You'd be fired within 8 minutes of handing out the assignment.

But in debate classes/competitions, you are often given a topic you do not necessarily believe and asked to defend it.

And you are often asked to write in creative writing classes from a third person perspective, imagining yourself as a person you aren't.

It wouldn't require that you actually be racist or anti-Semitic, merely that you write papers defending those positions or write papers from the "perspective of a racist".

These would both be things that AI refuses to do, and you would actually be able to gauge the students ability to write a persuasive paper, a defense of a thesis, or a 3rd person fiction narrative.

Posted by: Based Conservative at July 17, 2026 11:28 AM (uSpHL)

136 >>> The reality is that graduating students WILL use AI in their jobs because that is the expectation. Companies will use AI for lower-level tasks. It's up to students who want a job to demonstrate they know how to leverage AI to do the hard stuff (like geospatial engineering). And can do it better than AI by itself.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2026 11:19 AM (FZ29D)


I don't trust other engineers, I also don't trust myself. I require easy to follow exposition on anything anyone is doing every time. I even have to convince myself of what I'm doing constantly. I will poke and pry to break anything to see if it still holds up. I do this while sleeping at night over the analysis I did the day before. Why would I ever trust some linear system goal seeking to make me happy using statistically derived montecarlo models of trust systems?

And maybe that's a real big problem. People will lose the ability to convince. As an engineer that is your biggest challenge. Convince others you know what you are doing and aren't a dummy. If you are not "doing" anymore how well do you think you'll be at "convincing"?

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 11:29 AM (3uBP9)

137 My (now long over) education nightmare was being told that I could not finish working on my Chemistry Ph.D. because the school learned that I had not taken an English class to satisfy that requirement for my Batchelor if Science degree.

Heh. Mine was that they were "taking back" my PhD for unspecified reasons. I suspect it's a symptom of Imposter Syndrome.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

138 Hunter Biden attending Yale Law School, transferring there after completing his first year at the Georgetown University Law Center

I still think that the Trump Administration should do a simultaneous SWAT raid at 2 AM of the admissions departments of all prestigious universities to seize the records.

I'm sure that the notes to Chelsea Clinton's admission to Stanford, for example, are just hilarious.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2026 11:30 AM (u6/wt)

139 Doctors, minimum age 45.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:30 AM (xHEjv)

140 I have yet to use AI for anything. I even close the CoPilot app when it autoloads on my computers.

I guess you can say I'm fighting it tooth and nail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:22 AM (2YhKe)

You and me both.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:31 AM (S41Gd)

141 Doctors, minimum age 45.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:30 AM (xHEjv)



F*ck you.

Posted by: Doogie Howser at July 17, 2026 11:31 AM (2YhKe)

142 Then they turn around and say things like "we need a hard wired phone for times when cell phones don't work" as if they've just cured cancer.
——

Some silly broad on X was talking about the absolute necessity for a similar wireless device for authorities to get important information out to the public during emergencies or natural disasters.

“Radio. You’re talking about radios”. It was hilarious.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:31 AM (8fTKG)

143 AI was very useful in helping me do some plumbing around the house and bringing an old refrigerator that had sat unplugged in the basement for years back from the dead. It does require a bit of common sense because it is completely wrong from time to time.

Did you realize it was wrong when it told you to strip and sit on the compressor to hatch an egg?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:31 AM (Riz8t)

144
You and me both.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:31 AM (S41Gd)



I'm trying to bide my time until I either retire or don't have to work in the IT world anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:32 AM (2YhKe)

145 >>You and me both.


Pure of Blood and Pure of Mind.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:32 AM (uzmqU)

146 Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 17, 2026 11:27 AM (tgl2u)

That stuff is usually a throwback to something quite traumatic that happened to you. But it's very likely NOT that similar or only a little similar. So it didn't have to have happened in school (although it might have if for example you got a call with bad news while you were in school or moving or preparing for something important).

So if you think about a time when you were unprepared or realized there was too much to do to solve something (usually something kind of very awful that got sprung on you) - you might be able to consciously put it to bed and never have that dream again.

Basically - point your brain to a rather traumatic episode that you can say roughly matches the feeling the dream gives you. Connect them consciously. The dream keeps wanting to tell you it doesn't know what to do with that thing. Once you see it, if you in fact have the right event (you'll know), the dreams will stop.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:32 AM (/bHKT)

147 Griggs v. Duke Energy IIRC is the source of forcing everyone to go to college.

Was thinking, why so many accepted the loss of manufacturing jobs:
"MY child is going to college and is NOT going to work in a factory."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2026 11:32 AM (3cUTc)

148 Did you realize it was wrong when it told you to strip and sit on the compressor to hatch an egg?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:31 AM (Riz8t)

======

Are you saying I've been wasting my time here?

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 11:33 AM (2ap+5)

149 That network and a 3.0 GPA is far more valuable than the 4.0 GPA.
Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:25 AM (2hwDr)
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Where were you when I was a drunken freshman.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 17, 2026 11:33 AM (GC/eJ)

150 >>> That's only was when she wrestles BananaDream.
Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:23 AM (uzmqU)


no no, not that dream again...

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 11:33 AM (3uBP9)

151 Well, my first almost week of radiation treatments is over. Sadly, I'll have to spend two days where some cute young woman isn't going to ask me to drop my pants.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 11:33 AM (ExV1e)

152 I was skeptical about AI for a long time. Then gradually started using it. Now I can’t imagine life without it.

At work what used to take an hour can now be done in minutes. Not everything, but a lot.

Which is good and bad of course. It’s good for me now because I can do a lot of fucking off. But it’s bad long term since eventually employers will realize they no longer need me. But I’ll be retired by then hopefully. 😀

Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:33 AM (2hwDr)

153 What can brown do for you.....
Marry me Eva!
- hitler

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 17, 2026 11:34 AM (KlUCT)

154 138. Posted by: The ARC of History!

👍

But only in our dreams.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 17, 2026 11:34 AM (NFX2v)

155 Well, my first almost week of radiation treatments is over. Sadly, I'll have to spend two days where some cute young woman isn't going to ask me to drop my pants.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 11:33 AM (ExV1e)



At least you've got something to look forward to next week.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:34 AM (2YhKe)

156 Mine was that they were "taking back" my PhD for unspecified reasons.

Although you graduated with a perfect GPA, during a random audit we discovered that you took a class without having taken the required prerequisite for that class. That invalidates your Bachelor's degree which then invalidates your Master's degree and that invalidates your PhD

Posted by: Chuck C at July 17, 2026 11:34 AM (0GLZr)

157 Don't tell Ace, but I just finished up a 36 hour fast.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:35 AM (uzmqU)

158 In the last class I taught at the University where I don't teach any more except for when I need beer money, i deliberately created a test for using AI. I didn't announce it to the class and it was an in-class test. The results were about what I expected. One guy was up and out in less than 5 minutes. The rest of the class, except one, were looking around wondering WTF??? So they relooked the instructions and voila! Exams started rolling in. All except my foreign (Chinese) student. She sitting there busting her butt looking up stuff and trying to write. I quietly pointed out the instructions and she was stunned.
I found the whole exercise insightful.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2026 11:35 AM (2WIwB)

159 "But in debate classes/competitions, you are often given a topic you do not necessarily believe and asked to defend it."

LOL - that's where the counterintuitive position comes in. Academic debate competitions these days aren't close to what they were before the internet.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 17, 2026 11:37 AM (DZ9Lv)

160 Isn't 31 the more impressive student? Honest on the midterm and capable of learning.

Posted by: purely an academic question at July 17, 2026 11:05 AM (F/35S)


You have it backward. The orange dot is the midterm score so their grade decreased by 17 points.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 11:37 AM (ExV1e)

161 I know this sounds like Crazy Talk, but I took great satisfaction in doing my own work, doing the studying, and mastering the material, Finals are still stressful, but then you find out the Grades Have Been Posted, and you got an “A”. Professors are human too (well most of them) and I’ve no doubt they tend to cut a little slack to those making honest effort and not trying to get over.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:38 AM (8fTKG)

162 Handwritten, in-person exams--that's all that is needed.

On the other side, teachers and professors are now using AI to grade tests.

And there is the issue of AI, each iteration getting worse than the one before. Something like it's cutting the tails off so all that's left is the most common.
And then next generation trains on that and cuts more off the ends.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 17, 2026 11:39 AM (3cUTc)

163 >>Professors are human too (well most of them) and I’ve no doubt they tend to cut a little slack to those making honest effort and not trying to get over.


I found the best path was to always take advantage of Office Hours and spend some time with the Profs.

Take the opportunity to discuss the materials and test your knowledge while establishing a decent relationship with the Professor.

Worked like a charm.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:40 AM (uzmqU)

164 nd there is the issue of AI, each iteration getting worse than the one before. Something like it's cutting the tails off so all that's left is the most common.
And then next generation trains on that and cuts more off the ends.


Some clever soul called this the AI ouroboros.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:40 AM (Riz8t)

165 I'm old enough to remember when you asked Google AI for a picture of George Washington and it gave you back a black broad with British style wig.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:40 AM (2YhKe)

166 @17 You can't fake a weld, a plumbing repair, wiring a structure, and so forth.

The hell you say.
You people must live in a bubble. Jesus Christ Almighty.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 17, 2026 11:40 AM (zdLoL)

167 >> You can't fake a weld, a plumbing repair, wiring a structure, and so forth.


You can. But, if you aren't in a Union you risk losing your job.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:41 AM (uzmqU)

168 My scholastic nightmares are usually that I didn't take some required high school class and therefore my HS diploma was invalid, therefore my undergraduate degree was invalid, therefore my post-grad degree was invalid, therefore I had to go back and take the high school class.

Then there's also going back to college decades later and finding that I still have a key to my room there and a boatload of stuff in it that I need to remove. The remainder of the dream is an exercise in futility and I can never successfully get my stuff.

Posted by: Unresolved baggage and unfinished business at July 17, 2026 11:41 AM (TbWk/)

169 My daughter is a CS person, and the interview process for jobs in CS has become almost like taking a CS course in length and rigor. I guess the companies have figured out that credentials no longer mean much.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t)


A lot of places have gone to requiring a (paid) internship prior to getting hired. For this very reason.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 11:41 AM (ExV1e)

170 I had a colleague, much better programmer than me, who had to take "Intro to Computer Programming 101" his senior year because of the prerequisite issue. This was while he was completing his senior class project. Luckily, that class's professor realized the absurdity and told him to just show up to take the midterm and final.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 17, 2026 11:42 AM (0GLZr)

171 165 I'm old enough to remember when you asked Google AI for a picture of George Washington and it gave you back a black broad with British style wig.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:40 AM (2YhKe)

As we learned this summer, she's the Ben Franklin spitting image.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2026 11:42 AM (tOcjL)

172
As we learned this summer, she's the Ben Franklin spitting image.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2026 11:42 AM (tOcjL)



See? Even AI gets it wrong. Ben was a black woman. NOT George Washington.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:43 AM (2YhKe)

173 Worked like a charm.

Posted by: garrett at July 17, 2026 11:40 AM (uzmqU)

The key is sincerity. If you can fake that, you've got it made.

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:43 AM (/bHKT)

174 Based upon what I saw the last time I took classes 20 years ago, that may not be an entirely justified conclusion...
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 17, 2026 11:12 AM (OUMaO)

I was teaching 20 years ago. It's very different now.

Also, if they were taking classes 20 years ago, they don't qualify as "young doctor".

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 17, 2026 11:43 AM (XHO5P)

175 The only people I remember cheating in college were the foreigners, asians mostly, and they cheated a lot.

Specifically, Chinese and Indian. Saw them blatantly cheat during in-class exams. The Japanese and Korean seemed to do things the right way.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (ExV1e)

176 “You can't fake a weld, a plumbing repair, wiring a structure, and so forth.”

My house says otherwise lol.

I bought an old house that needed mucho renovations. My contractor used the phrase”what the fuck were they thinking” many man maaaaany times throughout the project.

Posted by: Clown World at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (2hwDr)

177 Thx Buck
Years ago before he started huffing his own farts, George will write a column about a history professor who did something similar but with ideology ( don't recall if it was U of Mich or Wis)
The professor showed an old black and white vid of combat with a narrator say " here are the rebels going over the top and charging enemy lines"
The students cheered the rebels. The professor stopped the vid and said "so you support the rebels". They cheered. Then he said "the rebels are Franco's Fascists." "Learn context"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (OXYE0)

178 > have yet to use AI for anything. I even close the CoPilot app when it autoloads on my computers.
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You can disable that, you know. Assuming it's on your home or non-managed PC.

Open up Settings and go to Apps. Then click on Installed Apps and find CoPilot in the list. Click on the 3 dots to the right, select "uninstall."

It will likely reinstall itself after every Windows Update, but for the duration it'll be disabled.

You can also edit the registry and kill it there. Again, assuming it's a home PC and not part of a corporate network.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (jehhT)

179
The key is sincerity. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:43 AM (/bHKT)



Either that, or have tits and give good blow jobs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (2YhKe)

180 I think we are all struggling with AI and how it can be a useful tool in education and work environments. If these students had spent time reading what AI told them, and checking sources provided by AI, they may have actually learned a little bit. They would have learned AI can be wrong, too.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 11:46 AM (hftzA)

181
It will likely reinstall itself after every Windows Update, but for the duration it'll be disabled.

You can also edit the registry and kill it there. Again, assuming it's a home PC and not part of a corporate network.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (jehhT)




I'm aware how to, but it's mostly work stuff and I can't modify that, so I just exit it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:46 AM (2YhKe)

182
Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!
Posted by: Common Tater



40 years after leaving Ft Benning, I STILL suffer from the Basic Training Trying To Find A Clean Uniform nightmare from time to time.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2026 11:46 AM (iqcvy)

183 if you aren't in a Union you risk losing your job.

Speaking of which:
Fear of humanoid robots spurs human workers to strike at Hyundai auto factory

Thousands of unionized Hyundai auto workers began walking off the job early after negotiations with the South Korean automaker broke down over plans to deploy humanoid robots—the most significant pushback from organized labor so far over the latest wave of robotic automation.


https://tinyurl.com/y93kkve4

These are hardworking Koreans, so if they're worried, the UAW should be terrified. Thus far, their response is to call automation a witch.

But labor unions in both South Korea and the United States clearly want to see stronger commitments from automakers in the face of such automation efforts. The UAW recently criticized GM for installing about 50 new robot arms at the automaker’s flagship electric vehicle factory in Detroit after laying off more than 1,300 workers as a supposedly temporary measure.

During the UAW Convention held in Detroit in June 2026, UAW President Shawn Fain also warned against “the threat of humanoid robotics and mass automation” undermining worker employment and compensation.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:47 AM (Riz8t)

184 Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!
Posted by: Common Tater




I occasionally have one where I know I have a specific class, but I haven't been to it in a while and don't remember where it is.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:47 AM (2YhKe)

185 The professor showed an old black and white vid of combat with a narrator say " here are the rebels going over the top and charging enemy lines"
The students cheered the rebels. The professor stopped the vid and said "so you support the rebels". They cheered. Then he said "the rebels are Franco's Fascists." "Learn context"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (OXYE0)


[raises hand] . . . Um . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 11:48 AM (rbvCR)

186 At NYMag: "I Got a Beard Transplant So I’d Be Taken Seriously at Work"

tl;dr: Job title is 'Carnival Bearded Lady.'

Posted by: gp at July 17, 2026 11:48 AM (Jr5Lq)

187
[raises hand] . . . Um . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 11:48 AM (rbvCR)



Yeah, he spelled Democrats wrong.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 17, 2026 11:48 AM (2YhKe)

188 Wow, that distribution suggests that maybe 3 people didn't cheat.

But what can we expect when we make men without chests?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

No, just the two. It also shows even the smarter ones will cheat, just to keep up if for no other reason.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 17, 2026 11:49 AM (sl73Y)

189 > I'm aware how to, but it's mostly work stuff and I can't modify that, so I just exit it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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Got it.

I worked for DoD (DoW) and the workstation I used was locked down tight. Sucked. Couldn't use home PC for anything other than WebMail through Outlook. And that only worked when it felt like it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2026 11:49 AM (jehhT)

190 >>>Computer majors walking around campus with their rubber banded stacks of punch cards.

Posted by: Tuna

>Ha. Actually I got in and had one of the original Macs, no hard drive. But I like to bust their balls. Still, back the then the original data centers were rooms filled with reel-to-reel tape readers. We'd bring them in on pallets and have a dedicated staff of women loading tapes.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 17, 2026 11:49 AM (sYM3s)

191 I know I'm a closed minded bigoted luddite lazy shiftless intellectually incurious arsehole, but what the HELL is there to learn about welfare economics and social justice or whatever bullshit this idiot thinks he's an "expert" in? Be honest. Has it actually made an impact on the world, or is it just lesbian masturbation porn for communist HOA wannabe fuckheads?

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 11:50 AM (/bHKT)

192
The previous owners of our home -- the male, actually -- was a firm believer that cove molding paired with an adhesive was the preferred method to repair just about anything. Wrapping leaky duct joints with carpet padding and tying it off with clothesline earned high honors, too.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 11:51 AM (s9VOe)

193 I always felt though the teachers that complained the loudest about cheating were usually too lazy to make it harder to cheat.

A take home exam is a good example. Of course people are going to cheat on that. Even before AI.

I had a teacher in HS that constantly warned and complained about students cheating in her class. The reasoning? She had the same tests for like 25+ years straight. Like word for word. Everybody had an old copy of one. She knew this, but still wouldn't at least change them around a little bit. Just warned everybody about not cheating.

Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 11:51 AM (Bjzmv)

194 Woa, tell us how you really feel ellipsis. Don't hold back

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2026 11:51 AM (rbvCR)

195 AI was very useful in helping me do some plumbing around the house and bringing an old refrigerator that had sat unplugged in the basement for years back from the dead. It does require a bit of common sense because it is completely wrong from time to time.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 11:27 AM (2ap+5)

It can be catastrophically wrong sometimes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2026 11:52 AM (S41Gd)

196 Sounds like solid C/C+ students will be our hope for the future.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
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That may have been the case for a long time. When I was at school, the Gentleman's 'C' was regarded as nominal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 11:52 AM (XeU6L)

197 Once in a while, I’ll still have a dream (nightmare?) where I have a Final Exam and I’d completely forgotten to go to that class all semester. Oops!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:00 AM (8fTKG)
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Oh I have had that dream many times. I learned early, some classes made sense to attend and some were better just working in the text book and showing up for exams and quizzes. Of course, you still needed to know the material, no internet back in the stone age when I went to school.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 17, 2026 11:52 AM (GZYu7)

198 The previous owners of our home -- the male, actually -- was a firm believer that cove molding paired with an adhesive was the preferred method to repair just about anything. Wrapping leaky duct joints with carpet padding and tying it off with clothesline earned high honors, too.

I...have no response to that.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t)

199 Doctors, minimum age 45.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 17, 2026 11:30 AM (xHEjv)


My radiotherapist looks like he's late 20s but he looked that way 7 years ago when he was my wife's radiotherapist.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 11:52 AM (ExV1e)

200 There was a big data storage company that would only hire C students with extracurricular activities for their salesforce . Theory was the brainiacs didn't make good sales people.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 11:53 AM (/WQyy)

201 168 My scholastic nightmares are usually that I didn't take some required high school class and therefore my HS diploma was invalid, therefore my undergraduate degree was invalid, therefore my post-grad degree was invalid, therefore I had to go back and take the high school class.

========

In grad school, one of my classmates close to finishing his PhD program was notified that his undergrad university has rescinded his BS because he didn't meet the freshman English requirement and slipped through the cracks when given approval to graduate. Because everyone refused to bend the rules, he had to take leave for a semester, return back to his old uni and take the required class. We joked that he should double check with his high school too.

Posted by: justALurker at July 17, 2026 11:53 AM (4jnbQ)

202 And acquaintance from my High School get admitted and attended Brown in the Fall of 1973.

He was a very sharp guy. Oh how Brown has fallen.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 17, 2026 11:54 AM (qFwJc)

203 The reasoning? She had the same tests for like 25+ years straight. Like word for word. Everybody had an old copy of one.
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I recall that fraternities had years of exams/quizes on file, for use by the brothers as references.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 11:54 AM (XeU6L)

204 Bravo to students 1 and 22 and, perhaps 31. Integrity deserves to be rewarded. (31 might just be a smarter cheater.)

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 17, 2026 11:55 AM (aTl7+)

205 I'd love to see Griggs v. Duke Power Co. overturned. You know to level the playing field for ALL!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2026 11:08 AM (pyNYl)
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It's time is coming.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 17, 2026 11:55 AM (GZYu7)

206 I...have no response to that.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t)

Yeah what was he thinking when there's Flex Tape!

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 11:56 AM (/WQyy)

207 eventually employers will realize they no longer need me
_-_
Manager: Nope. You know those four projects that were due next week? You now have eight of them that are due by"Tuesday week or you don't get paid!"

Posted by: Don in SoCo at July 17, 2026 11:56 AM (JWDez)

208 In my final semester of senior year of college, I took a class that I thought was graded solely on a take-home final exam.

"No sweat," I thought. "I can bag this entire thing and just ace the test."

So I never went to class. A few days before the exam, I get called to the professor's office. He informs me that the grade is not based only on the final, but also on a midterm and class participation. Oh, and the final is not take-home. It's in-class.

I shit a brick. I didn't take the midterm, because I didn't know about it, and I failed class participation because I was never there.

Professor says I need to ace the final or I fail the class. If I fail the class, I won't get credit for the course, and I won't graduate because I need those credits.

I was shitting bricks like howitzer rounds.

I had to learn the entire course in about 72 hours. I crammed for the exam in the most grueling, most gruesome 72 hours in the history of education. Pretty much no sleep.

I apparently aced the test because the professor gave me a B- for a final grade.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 17, 2026 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

209 UAW President Shawn Fain also warned against “the threat of humanoid robotics and mass automation” undermining worker employment and compensation.
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That’s where all those millions and millions of unskilled, illiterate illegal aliens pouring across the open borders makes a lot of sense.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2026 11:57 AM (8fTKG)

210 So I never went to class. A few days before the exam, I get called to the professor's office. He informs me that the grade is not based only on the final, but also on a midterm and class participation. Oh, and the final is not take-home. It's in-class.


a real life Jeff Winger!

Posted by: Black Orchid at July 17, 2026 11:57 AM (j+aD2)

211 The reasoning? She had the same tests for like 25+ years straight. Like word for word. Everybody had an old copy of one.
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I recall that fraternities had years of exams/quizes on file, for use by the brothers as references.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

==

And some student in every class would always have an older sibling that had saved the old tests because she handed them back with the grade.

This teacher wouldn't even change up the order of the questions.

Some would literally memorize "a,c,c,d,a,c..." etc and then ace the test.

If anything it was more of an indictment of the teacher.

Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 11:58 AM (Bjzmv)

212 Some would literally memorize "a,c,c,d,a,c..." etc and then ace the test.

If anything it was more of an indictment of the teacher.


It absolutely was an indictment of the teacher. Did she not think anything was amiss when students finished the test in 30 seconds?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 12:00 PM (Riz8t)

213
I...have no response to that.
Posted by: Archimedes


As the home inspector and I went through the premises, Stan (the owner) was bird dogging us and getting more and more pissed off as the inspector racked up the many deficiencies. He wanted the inspector to be fired and expelled from the property. Our realtor had to corral him and remove him from our presence while telling him, "The inspector doesn't work for you, he works for the buyer."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 12:00 PM (s9VOe)

214 I think more than 3 didn't cheat.

Take home vs in class, the mid term could likely have been an easier environment (I don't know the wholes story)

There are a few in there where yes the mid term they performed better, but didn't tank the final either.

However, the point of the story is still valid... so I suppose I'm just listening to myself pontificate.

Most of the class cheated, obviously.

Posted by: Inogame at July 17, 2026 12:01 PM (53oGX)

215 >>> There was a big data storage company that would only hire C students with extracurricular activities for their salesforce . Theory was the brainiacs didn't make good sales people.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 11:53 AM (/WQyy)


Sales guy to hardware engineers: So yeah, she was really hot so I said we'd provide one of our new 80 doggobyte racks and...

(engineer raises hand) What's a doggobyte?

Pshah! Like I know bro, you just stuff 80 of them in a box by close of business Friday because me and CIO babe have a date. Alright bros, later...

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 12:01 PM (3uBP9)

216 "I am really upset that so much cheating occurs."

"Then why do you make it so easy?"

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 17, 2026 12:01 PM (qFwJc)

217 If anything it was more of an indictment of the teacher.

Sounds like you're bad mouthing the United States of America! -- Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman, Damn glad to meet you.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 12:01 PM (ExV1e)

218 My radiotherapist looks like he's late 20s but he looked that way 7 years ago when he was my wife's radiotherapist.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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My primary care guy of 20 years took early retirement after Obamacare became a reality. The practice plugged in a young guy who we came to call Doogie Houser. Nice guy, probably qualified and competent, but simply lacked confidence-inspiring experience in contact with the patients.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:01 PM (XeU6L)

219 But we must always defer to the moral superiority and civic wisdom of our Ivy League betters.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 17, 2026 12:01 PM (t+TFX)

220 Back in the day, at UCSD, we NEVER got a "take-home" exam.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 17, 2026 12:02 PM (qFwJc)

221 Historically for employers, the importance of a college degree was that it served as an aptitude test, and it also documented that graduating students had endured a rigorous, four-year (or more) credentialing program. This scholastic tenacity was assumed to translate into a solid work ethic.
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It was when they banned IQ tests for employment, that employers started wanting to see a college track record.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:03 PM (Fi81e)

222 My primary care guy of 20 years took early retirement after Obamacare became a reality. The practice plugged in a young guy who we came to call Doogie Houser. Nice guy, probably qualified and competent, but simply lacked confidence-inspiring experience in contact with the patients.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:01 PM (XeU6L)


My guy was the one who, when told that the other radiotherapist had indicated a need for hormone treatment when he hadn't, responded with, "Well, I'm looking at the biopsy report and you don't need them." No lack of confidence at all.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2026 12:04 PM (ExV1e)

223 Take home exam? Are you kidding me?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 17, 2026 12:04 PM (t+TFX)

224
It absolutely was an indictment of the teacher. Did she not think anything was amiss when students finished the test in 30 seconds?
Posted by: Archimedes

==

People were more savvy than that, they'd take your time, miss a few, etc.

The reality is, they weren't all that hard anyway, but if the entire class has a copy of every test, you're going to "study" off that.

Posted by: Sharpie at July 17, 2026 12:05 PM (Bjzmv)

225
...UAW President Shawn Fain

Sounds like an IRA guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2026 12:05 PM (Cqx++)

226 Back in the day, at UCSD, we NEVER got a "take-home" exam.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 17, 2026 12:02 PM (qFwJc)
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You could take it home after it was graded, but that was about it.

The most we ever had was open-book or even "allowed notes" exams.

One of our instructors allowed a 3x5 note card at every exam he gave, because he read that the process of compiling, compressing and prioritizing the notes would actually cement the knowledge better than studying by reading.

Posted by: Axeman at July 17, 2026 12:06 PM (Fi81e)

227 During the UAW Convention held in Detroit in June 2026, UAW President Shawn Fain also warned against “the threat of humanoid robotics and mass automation” undermining worker employment and compensation.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2026 11:47 AM (Riz8t)

This should be something they worry about. Especially because bringing them in isn’t something necessarily negotiable- potentially there could be effects bargaining. The UAW is very reluctant to cross train, and they are completely spoiled by negotiations with auto manufacturers. For those they represent outside of this sphere, they get a bit flummoxed when faced with needing to make concessions and be more flexible. They also get flummoxed by real contingency planning. I locked the UAW out once. They at least got themselves together more quickly than when I did it to the USW. Twice. Good times, good times.

Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2026 12:06 PM (hftzA)

228 Me: Okay, AI, I have completed maintenance routine XYZ

AI: Excellent work. Do not reinsert the fuel rods until XYZ is complete.

Me: Reinsert the fuel rods???

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 12:06 PM (2ap+5)

229 Back in the day, at UCSD, we NEVER got a "take-home" exam.

Posted by: no one of any consequence

I went to UCSD from '85-'87. Loved working at the radio station.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 17, 2026 12:06 PM (DZ9Lv)

230 Canada has "open book barrister examination" and "open book solicitor examination". It's one of a number of exams you have to take to get a license.

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:06 PM (GD0B3)

231 I had a course with a particularly lazy professor (former Reagan administration official, ran for senate later) who decreed that if you aced the mid-term you didn't have to take the final. So I didn't.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 17, 2026 12:06 PM (YZkcf)

232
The dentist who took over the practice from my longstanding and now retired previous dentist is young. And spent all of ninety seconds examining me during my visit this past week.

The missus and I will be shopping for a replacement once her dentist retires later this year.

Were it not for the thorough job my hygienist does, I'd bail on him right now.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2026 12:07 PM (s9VOe)

233 ---
You could take it home after it was graded, but that was about it.

The most we ever had was open-book or even "allowed notes" exams.
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Same for me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:08 PM (XeU6L)

234 I can honestly say I don't remember taking any of my tests in college because none of them stand out. I do remember writing a lot of papers though. I still have most of my papers from graduate school.

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 12:08 PM (/WQyy)

235 ..I bet unless you know what the heck is in those law books, and how to apply it, having them on an exam won't help....especially if the exam is timed

Posted by: runner at July 17, 2026 12:08 PM (GD0B3)

236 Professors would sometimes ask if the class would prefer a closed book or an open book exam. The class always chose the latter. Idiots.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 17, 2026 12:09 PM (2ap+5)

237 Did people, anywhere, actually think students or anyone for that matter would not use AI to cheat? Plezzzzz lmfao

Posted by: sidney at July 17, 2026 12:09 PM (Uy/WF)

238 nood



lum

Posted by: banana Dream at July 17, 2026 12:10 PM (3uBP9)

239 Hardest test I ever took was the Louisiana Real Estate license exam. Common Law and Napoleonic real estate law.

It was 90% multiple choice but the available answers were all similar to:

A
B
C
A and B
A and C
B and C

Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2026 12:14 PM (/WQyy)

240 163 >>Professors are human too (well most of them) and I’ve no doubt they tend to cut a little slack to those making honest effort and not trying to get over.


I found the best path was to always take advantage of Office Hours and spend some time with the Profs.

Take the opportunity to discuss the materials and test your knowledge while establishing a decent relationship with the Professor.

Worked like a charm.
Posted by: garrett
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Words of wisdom here. Speaking as a retired tenured prof. We have office hours for a reason.

And as a professor, I tried and used multiple different ways to assess students which is at the heart of education--not tests per se.

Recitation and vomiting of assorted miscellaneous trivia memorized is about the lowest form of education there is. In a social science, the key is being able to form analogies and apply those miscellaneous trivia to new conditions whether by simulations, exam questions, or writing assignments.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (E4rtv)

241 I’m way late to this thread but I just want to say: I hate student #1… that annoying egghead that always set the curve unreasonably high in every class. Get a life dude!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 12:16 PM (yz/88)

242 I suppose that I am the last one to recognize this, but it occurs to me that we are the fodder that AI feeds upon. I imagine it to be a parasite (or worse) that feeds on the host, until the host is bled dry.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (XeU6L)

243 235 ..I bet unless you know what the heck is in those law books, and how to apply it, having them on an exam won't help....especially if the exam is timed
Posted by: runner
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Pretty much. I didn't give a choice in most instances. Did for basic foundational class.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (E4rtv)

244 I still think that the Trump Administration should do a simultaneous SWAT raid at 2 AM of the admissions departments of all prestigious universities to seize the records.

I'm sure that the notes to Chelsea Clinton's admission to Stanford, for example, are just hilarious.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2026 11:30 AM (u6/wt)

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (tWxgu)

245 “Welfare Economics and Social Choice Theory.”

_______________________________

You never would have caught me cheating on that test, becaused I wouldn't have taken that nonsense class in the first place. Really? "Welfare Economics?" Is that the "throw taxpayer money at it to make it go away after creating the problem in the first place, only to make it worse?" And, "Social Choice Theory". Oh, I'm sure the "theory" part is just some leftist's opinion, and if you come up with a theory of your own that contradicts the "Social Choice" theory, you're just WRONG. Classes like this with an over-emphasis in justifying stupidity and making excuses wastes everyone's time, money, and patience.

Posted by: Orson at July 17, 2026 12:17 PM (dIske)

246 Then he said "the rebels are Franco's Fascists." "Learn context"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2026 11:44 AM (OXYE0)

They were killing Commies. Why would you not support them?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (1z8ji)

247 241 I’m way late to this thread but I just want to say: I hate student #1… that annoying egghead that always set the curve unreasonably high in every class. Get a life dude!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Curving grades is a lazy STEM practice to rank students. There are better ways to drive student learning and performance.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (E4rtv)

248 I still think that the Trump Administration should do a simultaneous SWAT raid at 2 AM of the admissions departments of all prestigious universities to seize the records.

I'm sure that the notes to Chelsea Clinton's admission to Stanford, for example, are just hilarious.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2026 11:30 AM (u6/wt)


I would like to see Obama’s transcript.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 12:19 PM (tWxgu)

249 Words of wisdom here. Speaking as a retired tenured prof. We have office hours for a reason.

And as a professor, I tried and used multiple different ways to assess students which is at the heart of education--not tests per se.
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A cousin, well-respected math professor at well-known university, held his office hours at the student union. Apparently it worked out well, the informality of the setting having some appeal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2026 12:21 PM (XeU6L)

250 You never would have caught me cheating on that test, becaused I wouldn't have taken that nonsense class in the first place. Really? "Welfare Economics?" Is that the "throw taxpayer money at it to make it go away after creating the problem in the first place, only to make it worse?" And, "Social Choice Theory". Oh, I'm sure the "theory" part is just some leftist's opinion, and if you come up with a theory of your own that contradicts the "Social Choice" theory, you're just WRONG. Classes like this with an over-emphasis in justifying stupidity and making excuses wastes everyone's time, money, and patience.
Posted by: Orson
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Actually as a former econ undergraduate, welfare economic is a pretty important field as that is a massive expenditure for governments and Social Choice Theory, is actually rational choice theory which applies how individuals and institutions make rational decisions in light of available information, human behavior patterns, etc.

Really more a conservative class archetype than a liberal one.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:22 PM (E4rtv)

251 Yeah, I would support the Falangists over the Communist Republicans in Spain. Strange how familiar words take on new meanings in new contexts, isn’t it?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 17, 2026 12:22 PM (tWxgu)

252 A cousin, well-respected math professor at well-known university, held his office hours at the student union. Apparently it worked out well, the informality of the setting having some appeal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

I ditched students doing in class presentations for a one on one with me over required research papers. It does work better. I always picked a public place for such though as I avoided private meetings one on one with students for classes-if I had to use my office, I kept the door open.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:24 PM (E4rtv)

253 Really more a conservative class archetype than a liberal one.

Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:22 PM (E4rtv)

Ha! I knew someone would call me on this, why did it have to be you

Posted by: ... at July 17, 2026 12:26 PM (/bHKT)

254 241 I’m way late to this thread but I just want to say: I hate student #1… that annoying egghead that always set the curve unreasonably high in every class. Get a life dude!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Curving grades is a lazy STEM practice to rank students. There are better ways to drive student learning and performance.
Posted by: whig at July 17, 2026 12:18 PM (E4rtv)

There were occasions when I set the curve… I almost felt guilty when it happened. Almost!

As you probably know, there are a lot of graduate level classes in STEM where the prof could create an exam that was undoable for the students. I took graduate level classes in mathematics where a prof could’ve asked for proof of a single theorem on the exam and not one student could’ve produced the proof. It is a quandary to produce “fair” tests with that kind of advanced material

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 17, 2026 12:31 PM (+gA9j)

255 Way back in ~1980 one of my math teachers caught a bunch of foreign students cheating. He'd suspected they were and deliberately set up a test to catch them, with another teacher administering that test. Two slightly different versions, caught folks clearly copying answers from the wrong version. He triedd to get them thrown out of the class.

Administration would only let him fail them an that exam. No punishments. They were paying way too much, and admin didn't want foreign students avoiding that college.

Posted by: you're in hell, the world ended at July 17, 2026 12:36 PM (Lqp/b)

256 The idea that it's cheating to use AI is old-line thinking, grandpa. These kids are never going to write another word without AI again! They may as well start depending on it now.

Of course, the results will be exactly as good as everyone else's AI-based writing -- so a Brown University education is essentially worthless. They may as well start getting used to that now, too.

Posted by: TR at July 17, 2026 01:16 PM (hazdd)

257 SOME of them were definitely cheating, but that's also demonstrating that a take-home exam in general, even before AI, was crap, because it was effectively an open-book exam.

Giving students 11 hours for an open-book exam shouldn't be surprising that they had significantly better scores than a restricted in-person exam with a much stricter time limit, unless both exams were open book.

Obviously some of them cheated, but you have to be cautious about reading ALL of them cheated.

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