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Herr Docktor Bugfokker Cancels Campaign Events as Unknown Parties Begin Polling the Strength of Other Candidates to Replace Graham Platner

There are rumors of a fresh Graham Platner scandal about to drop, even as the drop-dead deadline for replacing a candidate in Maine fast approaches. (I believe the deadline is July 13.)

Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers

Graham Platner has canceled a campaign event for unclear reasons.

The cancellation comes as polls are testing other candidates against Collins, while rumors continue to circulate about a possible new scandal involving Platner.

The Maine Wire
@TheMaineWire

🚨🚨Graham Platner cancels MULTIPLE scheduled town hall events as progressive allies tease another scandal is about to hit his campaign.

Augusta town hall for last night - CANCELED

Gorham town hall tonight - CANCELED

Sanford town hall tonight - CANCELED

There are no other upcoming events listed on his FB page, or on Mobilize

Steve Robinson
@SteveRob

Wild rumors re Graham Platner circulating this morning...

Sources Downeast say Platner showed up for the 4th of July parade in Eastport but left early after getting struck in the face by a teen-tossed water balloon.😂

He was a no-show later that evening for the Machias parade.

Meanwhile, Platner's key ally and fellow lazy-ass scumbag Bernie Sanders commsplained that party leaders are above party "rules."


Vermont's senior senator, a key supporter of Maine Democrat U.S. Senate nominee Graham Platner, Sunday rejected the alleged hypocrisy of flying charters while blasting oil-executive salaries.

"Independent" Bernie Sanders' use of private jets for his political campaigns and tours has drawn scrutiny from critics who argue it contradicts his advocacy against corporate wealth and environmental issues.

In an interview on Fox News, Sanders pushed back on the apparent contradiction.

"You campaign and you do three or four or five rallies a week," he told Fox News anchor Bret Baier.

"The only way, the only way, you can get around to talk to 30,000 people."You think I'm going to be waiting around sitting on a waiting line at United? While 30,000 people are waiting? No apologies for that.

"That's what campaign travel is about," Sanders added. "We've done it in the past and we will do it in the future."

Sanders tried to argue that President Trump doesn't fly commercial while campaigning either, asking Baier, "When's the last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign at National Airport?"

"But he's also not fighting the oligarchy," Baier replied.

So what's the Graham Platner scandal going to be about? I would guess that it's about him being expelled from tony boarding school Hotchkiss for sexually abusing a girl or several girls.

And I think, if it's anything less than that level of serious, it won't mean anything at all. They're already all-in for a Nazi and communist. Unless it's something that rhymes with rape, he's insulated against it.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:37 PM




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1 I went home with a waitress,
The way I always do.
How was I to know
She was with the Russians too?

I was gambling in Havana.
I took a little risk.
Send lawyers, guns, and money.
They'd get me out of this ...

AND INTO FIRST!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2026 01:39 PM (NcvvS)

3 Willowed, AND on topic:

In a few days, they CAN'T replace him, so if they're going to do it, it has to be now.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:38 PM (xA5g+)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:39 PM (xA5g+)

4 Graham Platner has canceled a campaign event for unclear reasons.


Sieg Heil!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 01:40 PM (MXaEW)

5
So what's the Graham Platner scandal going to be about? I would guess that it's about him being expelled from tony boarding school Hotchkiss for sexually abusing a girl or several girls.

================

Is one of them so traumatized she's unable to use a door now?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:41 PM (mmrXZ)

6 Sources Downeast say Platner showed up for the 4th of July parade in Eastport but left early after getting struck in the face by a teen-tossed water balloon

===

🤣🤣🤣

Way to go young patriot!

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 01:41 PM (GD0B3)

7 I did not-see that coming.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:41 PM (DCsZP)

8 Here is what I'm getting from leftwing forums on this:

Platner is innocent of every claim against him, those women are reichwing paid liars and you know women lie about this stuff all the time anyway

This is all about the Zionists that controlled the Dem party moving against an actual reformer who will personally end the "gaza genocide" when he is elected.

Also Susan Collins is literally Hitler and if Plater actually did grope some women who cares Trump does all the time and Susan Collins helps him do it.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:41 PM (sKqQm)

9 Been rumours for months that Collins would launch her oppo research ads as soon as he could not be replaced. Looks like the Dems are panicking.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2026 01:42 PM (NcvvS)

10 Live boy or dead girl.

Posted by: It's a classic at July 06, 2026 01:42 PM (2Ez/1)

11 A live boy or a dead girl. Or is it the other way around?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 01:42 PM (hxAVk)

12 ...even as the drop-dead deadline for replacing a candidate in Maine fast approaches. (I believe the deadline is July 13.)

As if that matters lol

Posted by: Hawaiian Communist Judge at July 06, 2026 01:42 PM (4Aicx)

13 Much like his German heroes, Platner is apparently not a big fan of 4th of July celebrations

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (sKqQm)

14 10, 11 — Jinx!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (hxAVk)

15 Shaky Susan the riverboat gambler. Does she have the goods or no?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (wOO3z)

16 A live boy or a dead girl. Or is it the other way around?

Yes. Or no

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (XuXeR)

17 Urrurrpp thppplthh ssshhhhlll urgh.

Posted by: Mitch at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (DCsZP)

18
So what's the Graham Platner scandal going to be about?

=================

Some n-word texts?

Blackface became officially forgivable when Canadian Castro was caught, but maybe there's some comparable race offense.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (mmrXZ)

19 Was Platner the weirdo who fantasized about buggering burglars in the bunghole? Maybe the scandal is that someone got into his dorm by accident and had to limp out

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (gKWVE)

20 Pound sign Believe All Minors.

Posted by: Polanski at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (2Ez/1)

21 Scandal? He's had so many face lifts that's not his beard on his chin.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (/WHpM)

22 But the polls.

They said he was winning.

Do Democrats not believe the polls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (uO3MK)

23 Has Seabiscuit SJP weighed in on Platner yet? I need to hear her wisdom….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (hxAVk)

24 Graham Platner has canceled a campaign event for unclear reasons.

Raging case of monkeypox

Posted by: I'll come in again... at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (TbWk/)

25 Do Democrats not believe the polls?

Oh there is a lot of quoting of polls in the leftwing forums but not the more recent ones...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (sKqQm)

26 I can wait another week before hearing this news, but no longer than this. I want to see the Oystergruppenfuhrer shucked alive.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (qy2Wk)

27 Was Platner the weirdo who fantasized about buggering burglars in the bunghole? Maybe the scandal is that someone got into his dorm by accident and had to limp out

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2026 01:43 PM (gKWVE)

You mean, had to GIMP out, amirite!?

Posted by: Burglar bunghole buggerer Platner at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (xA5g+)

28 So what's the Graham Platner scandal going to be about? I would guess that it's about him being expelled from tony boarding school Hotchkiss for sexually abusing a girl or several girls.

And I think, if it's anything less than that level of serious, it won't mean anything at all. They're already all-in for a Nazi and communist. Unless it's something that rhymes with rape, he's insulated against it.

=====

I still think he's guilty of murder of civilians from his time as a merc in Blackwater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (uO3MK)

29 6 Sources Downeast say Platner showed up for the 4th of July parade in Eastport but left early after getting struck in the face by a teen-tossed water balloon

===

🤣🤣🤣

Way to go young patriot!
Posted by: runner

Too bad they didn’t use a funnelator and the water ballon full of cement.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (W2Pud)

30 Old and busted: Blitzkrieg

New and cool: Blitzflee

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (ndZc7)

31 [i ]Has Seabiscuit SJP weighed in on Platner yet? I need to hear her wisdom….

She offered to give him a ride to his favorite port a pottie

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (sKqQm)

32 25 Do Democrats not believe the polls?

Oh there is a lot of quoting of polls in the leftwing forums but not the more recent ones...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (sKqQm)

=====

So...polling in Spring is bullshit?

Even though the final polls 1.5 years ago were 60% right?

Weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (uO3MK)

33 My guess is that he contacted some minors on Kik or on some other platform and there's incriminating evidence, but some of these former minors are Democrats and holding out for a big payment.
However, if they don't get their money soon they will start talking.
There probably is additional evidence, but it probably is in the hands of Democrat-friendly institutions like Kik itself, so it won't be released; instead it will be used to make sure Platner remains faithful.
This is just a guess, but is what I would expect from a Democrat politician.

Posted by: PG at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (5tjvu)

34 But the polls.

They said he was winning.

Do Democrats not believe the polls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (uO3MK)

Has Collins EVER been leading in the polls before election day?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (xA5g+)

35 I still think he's guilty of murder of civilians from his time as a merc in Blackwater.

Was in Michael Moore that reacted to some blackwater guys being burned alive by arguing they deserved it?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (sKqQm)

36 Y’all don’t understand. Trump is such a danger to society Our Democracy (TM) that we need to elect Nazis to oppose him… it’s simple straightforward logic actually

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 01:46 PM (hxAVk)

37 Was in Michael Moore that reacted to some blackwater guys being burned alive by arguing they deserved it?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (sKqQm)

Kos, I think.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:46 PM (xA5g+)

38
Do Democrats not believe the polls?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM

I don't think they believe in anything besides power and how to gain more.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2026 01:46 PM (rwcDN)

39 31 [i ]Has Seabiscuit SJP weighed in on Platner yet? I need to hear her wisdom…
----
What about Tay Tay?

Posted by: Karen McAwfl at July 06, 2026 01:46 PM (2Ez/1)

40 It only took a free house to bribe Bernie to get him to drop out of the race.

I wonder how much they're going to have to "compensate" Planter for loyalty to the Party?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:46 PM (3cUTc)

41 34 Has Collins EVER been leading in the polls before election day?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (xA5g+)

======

She led all the polls in 2014.

But, this is the fun part, the polls were still wrong. They were all outside the margin of error.

They said she'd win by 30 and she won by 40. That's outside the margin of error.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:47 PM (uO3MK)

42 Spoiler Alert: The Oysterfuhrer has been raping little boys "in a gay way" since he was in high school.

Posted by: Which Makes Him Even More Poplular With Democrat-Communists at July 06, 2026 01:47 PM (qUkBO)

43 Polls are for strip clubs and fire stations.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 01:47 PM (wOO3z)

44
@8 - awe-inspiring levels of delusion, even for psychopaths / sociopaths.
wow *said in a Leeloo Dallas voice*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 01:47 PM (VyBeY)

45 40 It only took a free house to bribe Bernie to get him to drop out of the race.

I wonder how much they're going to have to "compensate" Planter for loyalty to the Party?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:46 PM (3cUTc)

====

The far left will take Platner being forced out badly.

Very badly.

They have a thing about their establishment fucking over their favorite candidates already that's still unresolved.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:47 PM (uO3MK)

46 I checked RCP and the best poll for Collins in 2020 was a Bangor Daily News poll of LVs from late Sept that put her opponent up by 1 point. The RCP average was about +5 for her opponent.

She won by 8.6 points.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:48 PM (sKqQm)

47 >>Live boy or dead girl.

Or?

Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2026 01:48 PM (NcvvS)

48 Do Democrats not believe the polls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (uO3MK)


Platner's supporters are probably disproportionately young and affluent, which means they are connected to social media more than Collins' supporters. And since polling companies are lazy as f*ck, they don't try to reach a big sample using other means.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 01:48 PM (l4RKn)

49 The far left will take Platner being forced out badly.

Very badly.

They have a thing about their establishment fucking over their favorite candidates already that's still unresolved.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:47 PM (uO3MK)

Better or worse than Crockett in Texas?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (xA5g+)

50 They discovered a MAGA tattoo and that was a bridge too far.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (vE0+H)

51 She won by 8.6 points.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:48 PM (sKqQm)


Working class Mainers don't respond to TikTok polls.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (l4RKn)

52 Fox News-
In Maine, a candidate who wins the primary and withdraws by 5 p.m. on July 13 may be replaced by party officials, with the replacement nominee needing to be selected by 5 p.m. on July 27. This allows Democrats a total of 14 days to choose a replacement candidate for the general election.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (NpAcC)

53 48 Do Democrats not believe the polls?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:44 PM (uO3MK)

Platner's supporters are probably disproportionately young and affluent, which means they are connected to social media more than Collins' supporters. And since polling companies are lazy as f*ck, they don't try to reach a big sample using other means.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 01:48 PM (l4RKn)

======

Polling in Maine is particularly difficult because, it seems, no one is willing to invest in trying to reach rural voters in significant numbers.

Which means most polling over samples people from Bangor and Augusta.

And people act like it's a deep blue state when the largest political affiliation is independents (roughly 40%).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (uO3MK)

54 Even though the final polls 1.5 years ago were 60% right?

Weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (uO3MK)

I amused myself at lunchtime today by watching a mashup of election night nonsense from Nicole Wallace on YouTube who early in the evening was (very hopefully) citing an election eve Marist poll showing the word salader up 4 points on the golden scalp weasel…. Only to be near tears later that evening…. Haha

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (hxAVk)

55 Urrurrpp thppplthh ssshhhhlll urgh.
Posted by: Mitch

Report: Mitch McConnell's wife visited China to meet with high-ranking communist officials just days after Mitch was hospitalized

-
Zombie Mitch is chained to the bed and she's got politicking to do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (ndZc7)

56 There probably is additional evidence, but it probably is in the hands of Democrat-friendly institutions like Kik itself, so it won't be released; instead it will be used to make sure Platner remains faithful.
__

Ah. Just like Chief Justice John Cuck-Roberts.

Posted by: The Chicago Way at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (qUkBO)

57 Aw, boo! I thought we'd agreed on "Oysterfuhrer" or "Kleinschwanz."

Posted by: pookysgirl, wrestling Lil Pooky for the keyboard at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (Wt5PA)

58 Steve Robinson
@SteveRob
Wild rumors re Graham Platner circulating this morning...

Sources Downeast say Platner showed up for the 4th of July parade in Eastport but left early after getting struck in the face by a teen-tossed water balloon.😂

LOL! All of our youth today is very much okay!

Posted by: Cheri at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (oiNtH)

59 They have a thing about their establishment fucking over their favorite candidates already that's still unresolved.

I am hoping for a lot of intramural casualties while it works itself out

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (VyBeY)

60 49 Better or worse than Crockett in Texas?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:49 PM (xA5g+)

=====

Different parts of the electorate (blacks voting for someone who looks like them vs white progressives who think Warren is the best candidate possible for president).

The Platner guys are Bernie guys. And they're still bitter about Bernie being fucked over twice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (uO3MK)

61 Having multiple houses helps me fight the OALLIGACKIE.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (R+iUD)

62 "And I think, if it's anything less than that level of serious, it won't mean anything at all. They're already all-in for a Nazi and communist. Unless it's something that rhymes with rape, he's insulated against it."
____________

Not even rape will do it. I mean, the guy is a woman-abusing, layabout leech with suspicious finances, with a fucking Nazi tattoo, and who openly brags about jerking off in port-a-potties and anally raping men. And yet, the Democraps still support him.

I suspect if there is a scandal that gets rid of this guy, it will be something racially bigoted or that taints his Pure Commie resume. Something in his socials like "fuck that nigger" or "you know, communism is stupid and evil."

The Democrap party is so desperate to hold onto black votes that they can't afford a high-profile guy with racial baggage. Similarly, this creep has risen as high as he has because he's seen as a commie true believer. Anything that undermines that will hurt him, perhaps mortally.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

63 CBD: Maine is bigger than it looks on the map, with a lot of interior hosting a transient population ("summer people"). The summer people are rich liberals from MA, CT, NYC, northern NJ. If they respond to polls they are telling people they are voting for the commie and then in November they return home where they vote for their own commie, not the commie in Maine they're not allowed to vote for.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (gKWVE)

64 Heh heh heh… TJM said “Bangor” hehe

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (TCUO6)

65 *In Maine, a candidate who wins the primary and withdraws by 5 p.m. on July 13 may be replaced by party officials, with the replacement nominee needing to be selected by 5 p.m. on July 27. This allows Democrats a total of 14 days to choose a replacement candidate for the general election.*
>>>>>>
The rest have 31, except February which has 28.

Posted by: As any school child can tell you at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (2Ez/1)

66 is there a tape ?? there is probably a tape!

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (GD0B3)

67 34 Has Collins EVER been leading in the polls before election day?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider

Polls are worthless in the Summer--to get the number of responses, polling firms use all adults or registered voters, not likely voters. That screening is more expensive (more calls have to be made) and even then, state polling is usually plus or minus 5 percent which makes them useless in a lot of state races if the pollster does not 'know' the state in order to properly weight the responses to reflect the guess as to the voting population.

The funny thing is individuals placing bets on prediction markets rely on bad polling data to place those bets and yet voila, the media and individuals keep reporting those results as if they are superior to the crappy polling data that underlies them.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (E4rtv)

68 Doubts started July 2nd

Two Maine Polls Just Dropped. Is It Time to Fret About Graham Platner? The Democratic Senate candidate is pretty much tied with Susan Collins, but she’s trouncing him with working-class voters. Why, and can he turn that around?

Worth pointing out that pollsters have been underestimating leftists by 8-12 points so far this cycle, something that NYT/Sienna is exacerbating with their new methodology, if that holds platner is winning this handily.

I'm watching a platner town hall on cspan right now. he is VERY good. I only knew about his "scandals" previously, but I'm agreeing with everything he is saying. I'm about to donate to his campaign!

Platner suffers from not having enough organizational support. He is not a socialist so he doesn't have that DSA ground game, and he ran without permission from the DNC so he has no support from the establishment that would rather Susan collins win.

It’s not looking good sadly. It seems like all the things that came out about him have done some damage in the polls.

Isn’t it possible Collins is just more popular in Maine then anyone wants to admit? And Maine Dems more moderate?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (4Aicx)

69 The Platner guys are Bernie guys. And they're still bitter about Bernie being fucked over twice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (uO3MK)

They still don't know that Bernie himself fucked them over? I love it.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (vE0+H)

70 Collins's dem opponent in 2020 was a pretty stereotypical Dem-Karen much like Mills.

I suspect part of the drive for Platner was he's not that.

But I suspect that basemen dwelling NAZI supporting groper is not an improvement over Karen from the Maine electorate's perspective.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:52 PM (sKqQm)

71 59 They have a thing about their establishment fucking over their favorite candidates already that's still unresolved.

I am hoping for a lot of intramural casualties while it works itself out

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (VyBeY)

=====

The establishment didn't really need to care because of election fortification.

So, the establishment has been fucking over their far-left ideologically driven base since at least 2016 at the presidential level.

I think there are second order effects to cleaning up elections that we haven't even begun to guess at.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:52 PM (uO3MK)

72 Bangor? I just met her!

Posted by: Oof at July 06, 2026 01:52 PM (2Ez/1)

73 July 13th: Oystergruppenfuhrer taken out by Dem powerbrokers
July 14th: Leftists in blue strong holds riot and on Bastille Day, of all days.

Im going to have to stock up with popcorn.


Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (qy2Wk)

74 Hitler built some pretty roads, so I can see why Platner is such a big fan. His handling of Jewish issues was pretty solid too, depending on which side of the argument you are on.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (AjaVp)

75 68 Isn’t it possible Collins is just more popular in Maine then anyone wants to admit? And Maine Dems more moderate?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (4Aicx)

=======

40% of Maine voters are registered independent.

These people have literally no idea.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (uO3MK)

76 If they respond to polls they are telling people they are voting for the commie and then in November they return home where they vote for their own commie, not the commie in Maine they're not allowed to vote for.
Posted by: gKWVE

Polling sucks anyway in summer. Vacays, etc. make a likely voter demographic less able to be reached. Polling in general is down the toilet unless you do secondary verification and likely voter screens.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (E4rtv)

77 The Platner guys are Bernie guys. And they're still bitter about Bernie being fucked over twice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (uO3MK)

Bernie's new dachas say he didn't get fucked over so much as make a deal.

I wonder how that little tidbit sits with the Bernie Bros...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (xA5g+)

78 Worth pointing out that pollsters have been underestimating leftists by 8-12 points so far
--------------

Wait, wait. So is there now such a thing as a leftist? Remember when every commie was just a "centrist" or "right of center"?

Now they're flat telling you they are communists and being a communist is a good thing? Life moves pretty fast.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (vE0+H)

79 Graham is a member in good standing and has always paid his dues on time and even volunteered to host our annual convention in Kennebunkport along with the Bushes and Lindsey Graham. We support him in his bid to join others like him in the US Senate.

We love you Graham! And Lindsey!

Posted by: Adam Schiff, NAMBLA President and Lifelong Member at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (og9zY)

80 So what's the Graham Platner scandal going to be about? I would guess that it's about him being expelled from tony boarding school Hotchkiss for sexually abusing a girl or several girls boy or several boys.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (RIvkX)

81 Isn’t it possible Collins is just more popular in Maine then anyone wants to admit? And Maine Dems more moderate?
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM


Stone the heretic!!!!!

- The Democrat Base

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (bFu5X)

82 He probably once said something bad about islam.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (n5tGW)

83 LOL! All of our youth today is very much okay!
Posted by: Cheri at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (oiNtH)

We drove past a no kings protest and my 9yo grandson rolled down the window and started yelling how stupid they all were.
I was swelling with pride as I rolled the window back up and got the hell out of there.
I was unarmed at the time.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (DCsZP)

84 Unless it's something that rhymes with rape, he's insulated against it.

Hey, I killed a woman and was feted nonstop by The Nice People for decades.

Posted by: zombie Ted Kennedy taking a break from being serviced by a barbed cock at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (fmbc9)

85 >>> 83 LOL! All of our youth today is very much okay!
Posted by: Cheri at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (oiNtH)

We drove past a no kings protest and my 9yo grandson rolled down the window and started yelling how stupid they all were.
I was swelling with pride as I rolled the window back up and got the hell out of there.
I was unarmed at the time.
Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (DCsZP)

Would it be in poor taste to remind you that you had your car?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 01:55 PM (R+iUD)

86 We drove past a no kings protest and my 9yo grandson rolled down the window and started yelling how stupid they all were.

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ahh, spending quality time with grandpa is the best !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 01:55 PM (GD0B3)

87 "You think I'm going to be waiting around sitting on a waiting line at United? While 30,000 people are waiting? No apologies for that. That's what campaign travel is about," Sanders added. "We've done it in the past and we will do it in the future."
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It's actually a sacrifice, you see.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 01:55 PM (RIvkX)

88 Baier.

"The only way, the only way, you can get around to talk to 30,000 people."You think I'm going to be waiting around sitting on a waiting line at United? While 30,000 people are waiting? No apologies for that.

"That's what campaign travel is about," Sanders added. "We've done it in the past and we will do it in the future."

Sanders tried to argue that President Trump doesn't fly commercial while campaigning either, asking Baier, "When's the last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign at National Airport?"

"But he's also not fighting the oligarchy," Baier replied.



Sanders: I'm sticking it to the man.
Me: But Senator, you are the man.
Sanders: Maybe...

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 01:55 PM (Riz8t)

89 >>> 84 Unless it's something that rhymes with rape, he's insulated against it.

Hey, I killed a woman and was feted nonstop by The Nice People for decades.
Posted by: zombie Ted Kennedy taking a break from being serviced by a barbed cock at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (fmbc9)

It was an accident, and besides mubortion.

Posted by: leftists at July 06, 2026 01:55 PM (R+iUD)

90 Would it be in poor taste to remind you that you had your car?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 01:55 PM (R+iUD)

Wife's car.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (DCsZP)

91 We drove past a no kings protest and my 9yo grandson rolled down the window and started yelling how stupid they all were.
I was swelling with pride as I rolled the window back up and got the hell out of there.
I was unarmed at the time.
Posted by: Reforger

Eh, interrupted a religious ritual of the lefties, well played.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (E4rtv)

92 Swapping out an obviously defective candidate worked out so well for them in the Biden/Kamala two step.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (ndZc7)

93 89
Hey, I killed a woman and was feted nonstop by The Nice People for decades.
Posted by: zombie Ted Kennedy taking a break from being serviced by a barbed cock at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (fmbc9)

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You were also an incumbent in a deep blue state and part of a political dynasty.

Platner isn't a great comparison.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (uO3MK)

94
Blackwater's Eric Prince no longer lives in the United States, and his visits are quick and unscheduled.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (Y8DZL)

95 >>> 90
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Wife's car.
Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (DCsZP)

LOL

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (R+iUD)

96 I'm lay odds on super racist writings. He's a nazi and all. Also, super sexist writings probably how men an intellectually superior to women etc. That'll do it.

Posted by: sums it up I'd say at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (anL5R)

97 LOL! All of our youth today is very much okay!
Posted by: Cheri at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (oiNtH)

We drove past a no kings protest and my 9yo grandson rolled down the window and started yelling how stupid they all were.
I was swelling with pride as I rolled the window back up and got the hell out of there.
I was unarmed at the time.
Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (DCsZP)

If they get their way it will be hell on the Sacremento NBA Franchise.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (uhVAy)

98 We believe in our oh so precious democracy

But we’re gonna totally ignore the will of our primary voters. Just like we did in 2024.

Posted by: Democrats at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (WUIO9)

99 I love it that Bernie is seen by his incel fans as this tough-guy anti-establishment rogue pile of awesome giving the finger to anyone who opposes him or the commie agenda.

But when Bernie had his shot at true power, he meekly bent over and took a dive for the same establishment he pretends to despise. Pathetic.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (iFTx/)

100 I'll fly around the world on private jets and eating caviar to stop the oligackyyyy!
- Bernie

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (n5tGW)

101 CBD: Maine is bigger than it looks on the map...

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (gKWVE)


Oh...I know...I've driven in Maine.

It's also more boring than it looks on the map.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (l4RKn)

102 Dead Ayotollah's funeral will take over two weeks.

Wimp

Posted by: Zombie John McCain & Zombie George Floyd at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (OTAXA)

103 92 Swapping out an obviously defective candidate worked out so well for them in the Biden/Kamala two step.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:56 PM (ndZc7)

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I've been suspecting that Collins would return to a win closer to 2014 (40 points) than 2020 (8 points) for a while.

Just...she's popular in the state and Trump ain't on the ballot.

Dropping Platner probably gives her that 2014 win again. Keeping him might just leave her with a 20-30 point victory instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (uO3MK)

104 We achieved our goals. As of now, there are no kings whatsoever in America.

Posted by: Democrats at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (WUIO9)

105 Does Planter have any of his fellow marines campaigning for him or any other fishermen or oyster farmers?

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (/WQyy)

106 We drove past a no kings protest and my 9yo grandson rolled down the window and started yelling how stupid they all were.
I was swelling with pride as I rolled the window back up and got the hell out of there.
I was unarmed at the time.
Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:54 PM (DCsZP)

Would it be in poor taste to remind you that you had your car?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 01:55 PM (R+iUD)

Put a cow-catcher grille on the front and you're set for hours of good wholesome fun.

Posted by: GOT TEN FEET OF AIR ON THAT ONE WHOOOO! at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (TbWk/)

107 (I believe the deadline is July 13.)
--
In KY, they're trying to pretend McConnell is still alive until August 3--before then, a special election is required to fill the vacancy.
After that date, the governor appoints the replacement who served until 2028.

And KY law counts braindead as "dead" for purposes of holding office.

Which means, because Bashear and none of the Dems are saying he's dead, Bashear has promised to appoint a RINO who will vote the Dem party line:
Bashear gets a Dem for 2 years, Mitch gets deadhand control over KY for 2 more years.

And that avoids the fight over not following state law to appoint another Republican.

Because, if they didn't have a deal to appoint who Mitch selected, his team would just announce his death, forcing the special election.

All of this to prevent the people of KY from having a choice in representation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (3cUTc)

108 Bernie was only in the race to keep the far left engaged in an election they absolutely would have been out of. It was always going to be Hillary, he was in to collect the names and addresses of useful idiots for future agitation, and to keep the Demotard side from appearing totally bored and listless.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (vE0+H)

109 The Platner guys are Bernie guys. And they're still bitter about Bernie being fucked over twice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Paradoxically, Bernie (unlike Hillary) isn't bitter at all. He still has adoring fans, tons of money, and the rest of his life on easy mode.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (4Aicx)

110 But when Bernie had his shot at true power, he meekly bent over and took a dive for the same establishment he pretends to despise. Pathetic.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (iFTx/)


No...not pathetic at all. A good Democrat soldier. That's why they are successful.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (l4RKn)

111
Polling sucks anyway in summer. Vacays, etc. make a likely voter demographic less able to be reached. Polling in general is down the toilet unless you do secondary verification and likely voter screens.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 01:53 PM (E4rtv)

Gallup calls me from time to time and I lie to them on purpose. I've been a Neilson person too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (W4Zv0)

112 Does Planter have any of his fellow marines campaigning for him or any other fishermen or oyster farmers?
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (/WQyy)

Blue Oyster Bar Farmers.

Posted by: IYKYK at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (TbWk/)

113 107 All of this to prevent the people of KY from having a choice in representation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (3cUTc)

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My sister works for a KY congressman. Federal level congressman. She works in the guy's office in state.

They have no idea if Mitch is alive or dead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (uO3MK)

114
American politics is an open sewer.
That's all I have for this topic.
How's your day going?

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (ZxPkt)

115 Worth pointing out that pollsters have been underestimating leftists by 8-12 points so far

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They overlooked the fraud vote.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (ndZc7)

116 I think there are second order effects to cleaning up elections that we haven't even begun to guess at.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Inner cities for one. Second will be a massive shift to red states in representation for House assuming the GOP keeps the presidency in 2028.

I also think a fair chunk of uniparty fixtures will either lose in primaries or retire if their races can no longer be rigged.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (E4rtv)

117 Oh...I know...I've driven in Maine.

It's also more boring than it looks on the map.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (l4RKn)

I'll be there next week for the 60th annual Nearsider family fishing trip to the same island on the same lake. The boy child will be the first of the fourth generation to make the journey.

It's my favorite place in the world. I'm going to have my ashes spread there.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (xA5g+)

118 I still think he's guilty of murder of civilians from his time as a merc in Blackwater.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:45 PM (uO3MK)
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If he did then then they all did.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (RIvkX)

119 If Chucky the Turd keeps it up, soon England won't have a king either.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (gKWVE)

120 All of this to prevent the people of KY from having a choice in representation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (3cUTc)

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My sister works for a KY congressman. Federal level congressman. She works in the guy's office in state.

They have no idea if Mitch is alive or dead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (uO3MK)
______________

"Turtle's Cat"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (iFTx/)

121 Maine is nice in the summer.

Just don't be out at dusk.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 02:00 PM (sKqQm)

122 >>> 113 107 All of this to prevent the people of KY from having a choice in representation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (3cUTc)

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My sister works for a KY congressman. Federal level congressman. She works in the guy's office in state.

They have no idea if Mitch is alive or dead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (uO3MK)

OrangeManBad should start demanding the release of Hostage Mitch, along with any other "missing" congresscritters.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 02:00 PM (R+iUD)

123 All of this to prevent the people of KY from having a choice in representation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (3cUTc)

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My sister works for a KY congressman. Federal level congressman. She works in the guy's office in state.

They have no idea if Mitch is alive or dead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (uO3MK)
______________

Schrodinger's Turtle

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 02:00 PM (iFTx/)

124 The Democrats will switch him out in a minute if they think they need to in order to win. They can pull a Biden (or Bob Torricelli, or any number of other examples) anytime they want. The Democrat hive mind will just immediately forget the existence of the original candidate and swarm to the new one.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at July 06, 2026 02:00 PM (udRx+)

125 FWIW, Boston talk radio says the Platner nuke is expected to be detonated by the end of the day. I guess the Democrat-Communists think they will need several days to convince Herr Platner to drop out before next Monday's deadline.

Posted by: Down Beast at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (qUkBO)

126 >>> 121 Maine is nice in the summer.

Just don't be out at dusk.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 02:00 PM (sKqQm)

Shush, you!

Posted by: mosquitos at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (R+iUD)

127 We are all Graham Platner.

Wait- where am I?

Posted by: The Ghost of Mitch McConnell at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (++1kQ)

128 It's my favorite place in the world. I'm going to have my ashes spread there.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (xA5g+)


The lakes and the coast are gorgeous, but there is a lot of really tedious forest for hours in every direction!

But...steamers from Maine are one of my favorite foods, so...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (l4RKn)

129 The Dead Ayotollahs was my favorite prog rock band.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (ndZc7)

130 122 OrangeManBad should start demanding the release of Hostage Mitch, along with any other "missing" congresscritters.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 02:00 PM (R+iUD)

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I honestly have no problem with hiding Mitch's corpse. It's just partisan advantage while fighting over nothing. The Senate's not doing anything productive and Mitch's chief of staff won't vote for anything we want anyway.

Just push aside the ugliness of the next few months in the appointment fight (KY gov is Dem and would want to appoint a replacement, even though there have been a couple of laws passed that muck that process up).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (uO3MK)

131 Coastal Maine is gorgeous.
Also populated by retards.
So like San Francisco.

Posted by: Facts at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (WUIO9)

132 At this point we could find out that Platner shoves the oysters that he catches up his butt before he sold them and the Dems would say " doesn't make him a bad guy and he really hates Trump

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (bF/eA)

133 All of this to prevent the people of KY from having a choice in representation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (3cUTc)

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My sister works for a KY congressman. Federal level congressman. She works in the guy's office in state.

They have no idea if Mitch is alive or dead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (uO3MK)

OrangeManBad should start demanding the release of Hostage Mitch, along with any other "missing" congresscritters.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 02:00 PM (R+iUD)
___________

I'd rather keep this charade going for as long as possible to keep that shithead KY fuckernor from appointing a Democrap to that seat. Trump probably realizes this, or at least I hope so. The longer this drags out, the better.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 02:02 PM (iFTx/)

134 Will the "nuke" be yet more toxic masculinity or are they really trying this time with something that will work?

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 02:02 PM (vE0+H)

135 99
But when Bernie had his shot at true power, he meekly bent over and took a dive for the same establishment he pretends to despise. Pathetic.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (iFTx/)

Him taking the dive was very lucrative for him. You don't get three houses, one on Lake Champlain on a Senator's pay. Certainly an unremarkable, unaccomplished Senator such as Bernie.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 02:02 PM (N39Ws)

136 But...steamers from Maine are one of my favorite foods, so...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (l4RKn)

It's all about balance.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 02:02 PM (xA5g+)

137 The Democrats will switch him out in a minute if they think they need to in order to win. They can pull a Biden (or Bob Torricelli, or any number of other examples) anytime they want. The Democrat hive mind will just immediately forget the existence of the original candidate and swarm to the new one.
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The younger progs and DSA members (but I repeat myself) want their candidates. They will not vote for whoever the DNC installs as a candidate. Which is good for Collins.

Posted by: Penfold at July 06, 2026 02:02 PM (Fbt5B)

138 Eh, interrupted a religious ritual of the lefties, well played.
Posted by: whig

It's fun and games until the Left regains power, and charges you with conspiracy against religious freedom and interfering with the exercise of religious freedom by force in revenge for Don Lemon.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 06, 2026 02:03 PM (4Aicx)

139 But...steamers from Maine are one of my favorite foods, so...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (l4RKn)

I LOVE steamers.

Posted by: Don Lemon at July 06, 2026 02:03 PM (vE0+H)

140 So McConnell is the prototypical post turtle except it’s unclear whether he’s alive or dead. Okay….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 02:03 PM (Ty3Ro)

141 They have no idea if Mitch is alive or dead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:59 PM (uO3MK)


That's been the case for a few years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 02:03 PM (l4RKn)

142 Today's episode of Gunsmoke, we secretly replaced Ken Curtis with Keye Luke as Festus...

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 06, 2026 02:03 PM (Kt19C)

143 Democrats have a Nazi, Marxists and Stalinists. They’re gonna need a Pol Pot groupie to replace this guy or they’ve lost their diversity.

Posted by: The Ghost of Mitch McConnell at July 06, 2026 02:03 PM (++1kQ)

144 They have no idea if Mitch is alive or dead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

To be fair, no one knew about Thomas Kean for months and he might lose his seat over it. And then you have Kay Grainger. Staffers stay schtum about things because it means they have to look for jobs as most will not be retained by a new officeholder.

The August deadline is for setting a special election to run conterminous with the regular November election for the rump part of McConnell's term in this Congress. I think Massie the Assie crowd is pushing the where is Mitch in order to try to run in a special election before the regular one.

My guess is Mitch is brain dead but the online idiots citing KY law for death don't realize it does not apply to DC land. Without a death certificate, lawyers can keep any moves to fill the seat on hold if they wish until the clock runs out in August.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 02:03 PM (E4rtv)

145
My guess is that he contacted some minors on Kik

Posted by: PG

===============

Oohh, good guess.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (mmrXZ)

146 McConnell's last thought on his death bed: "Why oh why did I buy this death bed."


h/t Norm

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (vE0+H)

147 LOVE steamers.
So does Amber Heard.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (Kt19C)

148 But when Bernie had his shot at true power, he meekly bent over and took a dive for the same establishment he pretends to despise. Pathetic.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (iFTx/)

Him taking the dive was very lucrative for him. You don't get three houses, one on Lake Champlain on a Senator's pay. Certainly an unremarkable, unaccomplished Senator such as Bernie.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 02:02 PM (N39Ws)
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And that pesky IRS investigation into his, his wife's and step-daughter's business dealings with that college his wife tanked being deemed not sufficiently documented to bring enforcement proceedings against them.

Posted by: Penfold at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (Fbt5B)

149 I doubt Mitch is alive , he hasn't done anything scummy today

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (bF/eA)

150 But when Bernie had his shot at true power, he meekly bent over and took a dive for the same establishment he pretends to despise. Pathetic.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:57 PM (iFTx/)

Him taking the dive was very lucrative for him. You don't get three houses, one on Lake Champlain on a Senator's pay. Certainly an unremarkable, unaccomplished Senator such as Bernie.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 02:02 PM (N39Ws)
________

To give up the Democrap presidential nomination and perhaps the presidency? He got bought off dirt cheap. Hillary would have been 1000x more expensive, if she had any price at all.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (iFTx/)

151 @132 considering all the other acts of Platner...could be true!

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (GD0B3)

152 The funny thing is individuals placing bets on prediction markets rely on bad polling data to place those bets and yet voila, the media and individuals keep reporting those results as if they are superior to the crappy polling data that underlies them.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 01:51 PM (E4rtv)
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I also find it amusing.

"You Have to Play to Win!!"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 02:04 PM (RIvkX)

Formerly-Famous Leftwing Non-Celebrities Spend Entire Fourth of July Weekend Obsessing Over (Get This) Trump

Sorry to drop that huge surprise on you without a warning.


Star of Seabiscuit Sarah Jessica Parker joined some other obsessives reading parts of an anti-Trump book and congratulating themselves for their Demonic Virtue.

A host of members from the cosseted Hollywood elites including Sarah Jessica Parker, Mark Ruffalo, Molly Ringwald, Sheryl Lee Ralph and Bradley Whitford released a joint July 4 video with author Timothy Snyder in an effort to challenge President Donald Trump on the day the nation paused to celebrate its 250th birthday.

They got Molly Ringwand and Sheryl Lee? (Laura Palmer from Twin Peaks, from 30 years ago.) What a coup!


They reportedly viewed their collective effort as "a call against tyranny" as Trump stood at the fore of his America 250 festivities and addressed the gathered tens of thousands and through them the country as a whole, as Breitbart News reported.

The Wrap reports how the sneering Hollywood effort went public with this claim:

"Two-hundred-fifty years ago, a revolutionary idea was born, not that freedom was guaranteed, not that democracy would take care of itself, but that ordinary people could govern themselves," Parker says in the 10-minute clip.

"Every generation since has faced the same question: What will you do when our country asks and needs something of you?"

..

"To celebrate a rebellion is to know that, from a flawed world, we can make new things," Snyder wrote in his intro to the video release, per the Wrap report.

"We can hold on, we can find each other, and not just imagine but create a much better America. It is a special 250th -- it is ours."

The clip featured -- but was not restricted to -- those mentioned earlier as well as Lisa Rinna, Canadian Margaret Atwood, Tony Goldwyn and Leslie Odom Jr. declaiming the book's 20 lessons to stand against tyranny.

Wow, decrepit spinster Margaret Atwood showed up for a left-wing event? Now I'm impressed.

And some other people who haven't been relevant since 2002 as well. Astonishing.

Speaking of old lefties with dwindling relevance, the site's official pick for most overrated piece of shit "rocker" ever, Bruce Springsteen.

I'd rather let Gary Glitter babysit my kids than listen to this gravel-voiced Cookie Monster of MOR "rock."


Left-wing rocker Bruce Springsteen declared himself a "patriot" for trashing President Donald Trump. "I believe in critical patriotism," the "Dancing in the Dark" singer proclaimed.

"I believe in critical patriotism," Springsteen told PBS NewsHour in a recent interview, after being asked, "You said before that loving your country means telling the truth about it. How has that guided your work?"

The "Born In the U.S.A." singer, who was interviewed on the PBS special, Bruce Springsteen: Finding America in Song, added, "I believe that's the definition of a patriot, you know?"

I love that the only album/songs people can remember is the absolute turd "Born in the USA."

"That you love your country so much, that you are willing to look at it clearly, recognize its faults, encourage it to be a better place, and believe that you carry in your heart the country that is waiting," Springsteen said.

"I was very angry," the 76-year-old rocker said of his new protest song, "Streets of Minneapolis," which he wrote after the fatal shootings of ICE agitators Renee Good and Alex Pretti, and later performed at an anti-Trump "No Kings" rally.

"And usually, I write songs that have a lot of political implications, but very often are not directly political," the "Born to Run" singer added.

You're a moron.

Finally, archleftist and completely inadequate man Larry David produced a -- get this -- anti-Trump fake "history" series.

Rob Reiner was in it, in his last role. He played -- are you ready to laugh? -- George Washington, ranting about -- get this -- Donald Trump.

Barack Obama produced this POS. This is the show Michelle Obama forbade from featuring RFKJr's wife and Larry David's Curb Your Enthusiasm co-star, Cheryl Hines.

Director Jeff Schaffer says Rob Reiner's final role as George Washington in Larry David's Obama-produced HBO show is Reiner's "last laugh" against President Donald Trump.

Rob Reiner -- who was killed late last year along with his wife, Michele -- filmed his final role a month before his death, portraying George Washington in Larry David's historical sketch comedy show, Life, Larry and the Pursuit of Unhappiness.

The late film director's appearance on the HBO show was kept a secret until the second episode aired on July 3, according to a report by Variety.

He died as he lived -- ranting obsessively and futilely about a man he'd never even met.

The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.

"It's coming out on Fourth of July weekend, and if it in any way spoils a sad octogenarian's weekend, then oh well!" Schaffer added.

Yeah I don't think it did.

The unbridled narcissism of these people. It's just a cult of self-worship.

Hello everyone! My goodness, I did not enjoy this very hot weekend. It's nice that it cooled down but I spent the weekend just laying around and checking a weather app to see when the heat would break.

How was yours? Any one have corn on the cob? I did. Dang corn on the cob is good.


Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:10 PM




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1 Star of Seabiscuit Sarah Jessica Parker joined some other obsessives reading parts of an anti-Trump book and congratulating themselves for their Demonic Virtue.

She missed the Oscar for her role by a head...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (l3cgK)

2 Oh! I was foist!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (l3cgK)

3 I NOODED

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (l3cgK)

4 Take THAT, Blade...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (l3cgK)

5 Hi Ace! Hope you had a great weekend!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (VyBeY)

6 Remember "dissent is patriotism". They're back to pretending they like this country (barely) instead of just trashing it and it's people 100% of the time. Would love someone to ask these floating turds what they like about this country. Would be fascinating.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 12:13 PM (vE0+H)

7 Oh, no. I bunch of has-beens and never-weres spent a holiday whining about people enjoying themselves. Whatever shall we do?

Laugh in their face, or just ignore them?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 12:14 PM (qx7Zg)

8 ...Reiner's "last laugh" against President Donald Trump.


Huh. "Laugh" and "Reiner" haven't belonged in the same sentence in years.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 12:14 PM (2WIwB)

9 When the President is Republican, dissent is the highest form of patriotism. When the President is Democrat, dissent is racist and sexist.

Posted by: Hadsil at July 06, 2026 12:14 PM (n3QP0)

10 Did the left forget about the drum circles? That was a "thing" there for a while.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 12:14 PM (jehhT)

11 8 ...Reiner's "last laugh" against President Donald Trump.

Looks like his son got the last laugh.... Too soon ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:14 PM (GsrgF)

12 6 Remember "dissent is patriotism". They're back to pretending they like this country (barely) instead of just trashing it and it's people 100% of the time. Would love someone to ask these floating turds what they like about this country. Would be fascinating.
Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 12:13 PM (vE0+H)

It made them rich...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (tOcjL)

13 A laundry list of pathetic genitalia-free oxygen thieves ranting against us.

Golly. What a surprise. *spit*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (VyBeY)

14 Trump probably missed Rob Reiner's last gasp. He had a busy weekend.

Posted by: huerfano at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (VJX5o)

15 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (sgkY8)

16 This must be exhausting, so much hate and for something they absolutely cannot articulate with any form of specificity as to why. What a waste of energy.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (Wmg4n)

17 Hollywood.

*taps the Giv-O-Shit meter*
(just out of the calibration shop too)

Nothing. Zip. Nadda. Zero.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (2WIwB)

18 Did Sarah Jessica Parker play the horse?

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (7iEFu)

19 You can govern yourself, except:

* when SCIENCE! tells you to wear a mask and hide under your bed for #twoyearsplus or else you'll kill grandma
* when DOCTORS tell you your child has an incurable condition and you should muhbort it
* when EDUCATORS tell you your surviving children need to learn about buttsecks
* when a bunch of SPLC-paid retards with danger hair tell you gubs are evil

.....

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (R+iUD)

20 I heard of 2 of these people. I believe most Americans need to use grok to find out who the heck these fools are.

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (GD0B3)

21 Afternoon, Ace.

I spent a hot Saturday manning a grill in a Hawaiian shirt, looking like an illustration from Popular Mechanics circa 1950.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (bFu5X)

22 Just got back from my cruise. I got to watch fireworks from the top of the ship which was off the coast of San Diego. I was anxious about the trip because it was my first time on Carnival, sometimes called the Section 8 of the Sea.

I was pleasantly surprised. The food was good. I didn't see any hood behavior. The entertainment was a little sparse, but I don't need a ton of entertainment.

I had a relaxing time with my family, got my daily workouts, and I'm only up 1.3 lbs from the day before the vacation to now. Great success.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (mkw2N)

23
Best 4th ever.

Grandkids the best.

Ditto corn on the cob.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (6osB/)

24 Molly Ringwold shat on John Hughes shortly after his death. He made her a star and gave her everything she has today. After he died she said she regrets the roles because they were “problematic”. Uhm ok then I guess you’ll be giving back the money too right?

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (WUIO9)

25 Fkin Marxists can all go sit on a cactus for all I care

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (sgkY8)

26 17 Hollywood.

*taps the Giv-O-Shit meter*
(just out of the calibration shop too)

Nothing. Zip. Nadda. Zero.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (2WIwB)

Your field of f**ks is bare. Nothing left for Hollyweird to suck off...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:17 PM (l3cgK)

27 Hello everyone! My goodness, I did not enjoy this very hot weekend. It's nice that it cooled down but I spent the weekend just laying around and checking a weather app to see when the heat would break.

Daughter lives in Detroit. Sections of Detroit have been without power since early Saturday. Best estimates, according to DTE, is her power (apt complex) won't be restored until late tomorrow night.

Have to imagine the natives will be getting restless.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 12:17 PM (N39Ws)

28
I love that the only album/songs people can remember is the absolute turd "Born in the USA."

The ACLU used it in their TV spots in favor of birthright citizenship played over and over on Fox News.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2026 12:17 PM (Cqx++)

29 Reposted but on point. Chuck Todd does the Fourth of July.

https://tinyurl.com/mwzsy37d

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:18 PM (ndZc7)

30 >>> 24 Molly Ringwold shat on John Hughes shortly after his death. He made her a star and gave her everything she has today. After he died she said she regrets the roles because they were “problematic”. Uhm ok then I guess you’ll be giving back the money too right?

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (WUIO9)

WTF was the problem with any of her roles?

Oh forget it, they're all retards.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:18 PM (R+iUD)

31 Last laugh? How can a dead man get the last laugh against a living one? The living one's position is still in play.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at July 06, 2026 12:18 PM (GMWTj)

32 25 Fkin Marxists can all go sit on a cactus for all I care

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (sgkY

Face on a cactus would be more attractive...

Posted by: Pinhead, Lead Cenobite and Hell Priest at July 06, 2026 12:18 PM (l3cgK)

33 12 6 Remember "dissent is patriotism". They're back to pretending they like this country (barely) instead of just trashing it and it's people 100% of the time. Would love someone to ask these floating turds what they like about this country. Would be fascinating.
Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 12:13 PM (vE0+H)

It made them rich...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (tOcjL)

Definitive proof that mere profit or a shared desire for money doesn't make a country.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 06, 2026 12:18 PM (okun6)

34 22 Just got back from my cruise. I got to watch fireworks from the top of the ship which was off the coast of San Diego. I was anxious about the trip because it was my first time on Carnival, sometimes called the Section 8 of the Sea.

I was pleasantly surprised. The food was good. I didn't see any hood behavior. The entertainment was a little sparse, but I don't need a ton of entertainment.

I had a relaxing time with my family, got my daily workouts, and I'm only up 1.3 lbs from the day before the vacation to now. Great success.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (mkw2N)

Longer, more expensive Carnival cruises never have any problems. It's usually just the cheap 3-4 day beach cruises (which tend to be almost all out of Florida)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 12:19 PM (tOcjL)

35 Hollywood.

*taps the Giv-O-Shit meter*
(just out of the calibration shop too)

Nothing. Zip. Nadda. Zero.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM


So the reading is Dead-on-Balls Accurate?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:19 PM (bFu5X)

36 My family's motto - "He who laughs last didn't get the joke."

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at July 06, 2026 12:19 PM (GMWTj)

37 Obviously the festivities went better than planned... You can tell by the seething media/ libs reactions all day yesterday

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:19 PM (GsrgF)

38 >>> 27 Hello everyone! My goodness, I did not enjoy this very hot weekend. It's nice that it cooled down but I spent the weekend just laying around and checking a weather app to see when the heat would break.

Daughter lives in Detroit. Sections of Detroit have been without power since early Saturday. Best estimates, according to DTE, is her power (apt complex) won't be restored until late tomorrow night.

Have to imagine the natives will be getting restless.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 12:17 PM (N39Ws)

If that estimate turns out to be optimistic, has she considered calling in sick for a couple days and getting a hotel room an hour or so out of town?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:19 PM (R+iUD)

39 Bruce Springsteen is a faggot.

I had a great weekend. Friends invited us out on their boat and I went wake surfing for the first time. I wakeboarded a lot back in my youth but haven't been pulled behind a boat in any capacity in a long ass time. I am sore in places I forgot I could get sore in.

Multiple beers of the cold variety were consumed.

Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 12:19 PM (oqH4h)

40
Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.

Who's laughing now, fatso?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2026 12:20 PM (Cqx++)

41 The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.

I don't think he understands what that phrase means. Dying doesn't mean you won.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 12:20 PM (vTZFs)

42 I read the content, which is as sad and retarded as this statement.

>>>"I believe in critical patriotism,"

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 06, 2026 12:20 PM (dK+Kv)

43 All these people are emotionally stunted junior high schoolers, even Meathead.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:20 PM (2GVsD)

44 Daughter lives in Detroit. Sections of Detroit have been without power since early Saturday. Best estimates, according to DTE, is her power (apt complex) won't be restored until late tomorrow night.

Have to imagine the natives will be getting restless.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 12:17 PM (N39Ws)

Tell her to think of it as experiencing a summer in France.

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:20 PM (WUIO9)

45 They reportedly viewed their collective effort as "a call against tyranny" as Trump stood at the fore of his America 250 festivities and addressed the gathered tens of thousands and through them the country as a whole, as Breitbart News reported.

Yeah, the White Rose has nothing on courageous freedom fighters like you.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (Riz8t)

46 I hope you left some corn on the cob out for the crows, Ace.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (77rzZ)

47 30 >>> 24 Molly Ringwold shat on John Hughes...

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (WUIO9)
__________________

Why did shhe shhit on him? Washh he dresshhed like Shanta?

Posted by: Sean Connery at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (dIske)

48 I gained 25 pounds from all of mom's good cookin' from this weekend. Worth it!

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (RmciC)

49 >>> 41 The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.
==
I don't think he understands what that phrase means. Dying doesn't mean you won.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 12:20 PM (vTZFs)

I suspect Rob Reiner is experiencing a sustained very very hot heat wave.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (R+iUD)

50 Went to DC for the spectacle. The fireworks were beyond description. The show on the Washington monument was very well done. The heat was oppressive. The number of patriots walking around made all of it worth it. It was great to see we all exist in the flesh.

Posted by: Rando Calrissian at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (YcehE)

51 That small list of people I vaguely recall and people I assume others can vaguely recall makes me wonder if some form of career protection instinct is finally taking hold in hollywood.

Posted by: Clay at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (xGI4W)

52
I won, a-holes!

Suck it!!!!

Posted by: Dead Hitler at July 06, 2026 12:22 PM (5inO5)

53 37 Obviously the festivities went better than planned... You can tell by the seething media/ libs reactions all day yesterday
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:19 PM (GsrgF)

It was good they opened the fair Monday to work out the kinks prior to the crowded weekend (getting bottled water vs the coolers, getting Guard members to hand out the bottled water, getting airconditioned buses and more air conditioned and shaded spaces on site, actually creating a daily published schedule, etc...it's what good business folks do with the test openings...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 12:22 PM (tOcjL)

54 Being murdered by your own son is not 'the last laugh.'

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:22 PM (2GVsD)

55
>>>"I believe in critical patriotism,"

Unless the President is Obama or Biden.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2026 12:22 PM (Cqx++)

56 30 >>> 24 Molly Ringwold shat on John Hughes shortly after his death. He made her a star and gave her everything she has today. After he died she said she regrets the roles because they were “problematic”. Uhm ok then I guess you’ll be giving back the money too right?

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (WUIO9)

WTF was the problem with any of her roles?

Oh forget it, they're all retards.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:18 PM (R+iUD)

My shower sink had Ringwald until I cleaned it.

Posted by: Pinhead, Lead Cenobite and Hell Priest at July 06, 2026 12:22 PM (l3cgK)

57 Yes, we had chicken teriyaki and corn on the cob and I enjoyed it .i am also thankful we live in house surrounded by trees so it is cooler and that the power didn't go out but only briefly last night.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 12:22 PM (EQmpy)

58 It's a endless mystery to me why the left thinks it helps their cause to drag out a few musty old duckspeaking commie relics that most people couldn't recognize in a police line-up.

News flash: it doesn't. The vast majority of people -- even most on the center-left -- will see this and think "didn't I see one of these people on TV a few decades ago?" They will feel sorry for these losers, rather than be impressed with their political views.

I think that's why the left is so desperate to get actual "stars" to pimp for Democraps. That's why they pressure guys like the Rock. They know having these old fossils mumbling about how much they hate Trump doesn't work, or at least the smart ones do.

The reason for losers like Molly Ringwald (she's still alive?) and Bradley Whitford (who?) to make these kinds of videos is pure "look at me" narcissism. You can almost here them thinking "I'm still here and important, dammit!"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:23 PM (iFTx/)

59 Semi-related. Is Trump a fascist?

https://tinyurl.com/mr3ve7bu

-
Reminds me of that Star Trek episode when they had to act irrationally to defeat the robot people.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:23 PM (ndZc7)

60 People who get paid to pretend for a living, are not people you should take seriously.

People who used to get paid to pretend for a living, but now are unemployed and mostly forgotten, are desperately seeking attention and definitely should not be taken seriously.

Molly Ringwald, on her best day, is probably not someone you should take direction from.

Posted by: obvs. at July 06, 2026 12:23 PM (anL5R)

61 Daughter lives in Detroit. Sections of Detroit have been without power since early Saturday. Best estimates, according to DTE, is her power (apt complex) won't be restored until late tomorrow night.

Another day in South Africa.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (2GVsD)

62 I always thought that Molly Ringwald wasn't pretty enough to be the one that all the cute boys wanted to date. They were lying to us.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (yAl+8)

63 Ace, ya know if you need a place to come have a steak and some corn on the cob off the grill instead of just sitting in the dark flipping the light on and off, you can always come out to Boise.

Wife and I would be proud to host you. Least we can do for all the laughs over the years.



Posted by: sifty boones at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (haByY)

64 So sad that Rob Reiner's best role ended up on the cutting room floor.

Posted by: sifty boones at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (haByY)

65 50 Went to DC for the spectacle. The fireworks were beyond description. The show on the Washington monument was very well done. The heat was oppressive. The number of patriots walking around made all of it worth it. It was great to see we all exist in the flesh.

Even Mamdani attempted to not be a total a-hole on the 4th, but of course, he couldn't pull it off, and ended up condemning America. It shows that even those fools are aware of how most of the country views them, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (Riz8t)

66 You need two weeks of antibiotics to be rid of Ringwalds.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (wOO3z)

67 SJP was great as Sea Biscuit. Should have won an Oscar and a feedbag of oats.

Posted by: steevy at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (YwEeS)

68 Ace,

Remember Joe Walsh, the corrupt one-term congressman from Illinois? He is an absolutely deranged, frothing-at-the-mouth anti-Trump lunatic.

He gets crushed on Twitter/X all the time, but he is too stupid and craven to care.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (l4RKn)

69 Completely off topic but speaking of Star Trek, Elon Musk on the warp drive.

https://tinyurl.com/nhavk8m6

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (ndZc7)

70 Obviously tje Constitution means nothing to them.

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (sgkY8)

71 The reason for losers like Molly Ringwald (she's still alive?) and Bradley Whitford (who?) to make these kinds of videos is pure "look at me" narcissism. You can almost here them thinking "I'm still here and important, dammit!"

Narrator: They are, in fact, NOT important.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

72 22 Carnival, sometimes called the Section 8 of the Sea.

I was pleasantly surprised. The food was good. I didn't see any hood behavior. The entertainment was a little sparse, but I don't need a ton of entertainment.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (mkw2N)
-----

Headed out on Saturday for our first family cruise on Carnival. 7 days out of Galveston. Hoping that paying the Ratchet Tax by upgrading to a suite keeps us out of the riff-raff.

Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (oqH4h)

73 HBO shows are always sooooo overhyped. They have virtually no audience. But they’re absolutely loved by the NY-DC-LA crowd and obsessed over.

I doubt Trump has even heard of this stupid show much less had it spoil his weekend.

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:26 PM (WUIO9)

74 SJP was great as Sea Biscuit. Should have won an Oscar and a feedbag of oats.

I'm magnanimous, two feedbags.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:26 PM (2GVsD)

75 Even Mamdani attempted to not be a total a-hole on the 4th, but of course, he couldn't pull it off, and ended up condemning America. It shows that even those fools are aware of how most of the country views them, though.

I loved the video of him sitting at a desk surrounded by foreigners holding American flags and looking for all the world like they were in a hostage video.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:26 PM (Riz8t)

76 Molly Ringworm always looked like someone was holding a cat turd under her nose. Never got the appeal.

Then I remember nepotism.

Posted by: sifty boones at July 06, 2026 12:26 PM (haByY)

77 Somewhat related to weirdo Hollyweird creeps: Turkish authorities have banned a cruise ship catering to American LGBTQ2S+ travellers from docking in the country’s ports, citing "moral standards" and "family values."

The schadenfreude, it is delicious.

But seriously, good for Turkey. Who wants thousands of foreign exhibitionist perverts overrunning your city?

The advertising for this cruise is almost comical in how obvious it makes its true purpose: this is a gay hook-up sex cruise. The promos are all young, good-looking flamboyantly gay men in nut-huggers with obvious sock enhancement practically sucking each other's dicks.

May God have mercy on the poor housekeeping crew that has to clean the staterooms after these perverts are done with their blood- and feces-splattering sex orgies. [Shudders]

https://tinyurl.com/y94p6efj

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (iFTx/)

78 "I believe in critical patriotism," Springsteen told PBS NewsHour.

What the hell does that even mean??

Critical patriotism?

Posted by: dantesed at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (w1twS)

79 I enjoy reminding people that

Trump won the electoral college
All the swing states
The popular vote
The House and the Senate.

It really pisses them off.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (W2Pud)

80 So sad that Rob Reiner's best role ended up on the cutting room floor.
Posted by: sifty boones at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (haByY)

He should have tried his hand at a slasher movie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (wOO3z)

81 brought over from PJM, because I love the idea:

"The intensity and immenseness of freedom in the United States of America should get a month-long celebration. I mean, we have to suffer through Pride Month every June. Calling July "American Independence Month" would be an excellent palate cleanser."

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (VyBeY)

82 We had pulled pork, smoked turkey, and all the usual fixings for the Fourth. It was wonderful and how the day should be celebrated. One would have to be a miserable person in order to let something like politics ruin it.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (qy2Wk)

83 For people that have some fame or 15 minutes of fame, they all seem to live unhappy lives.

And *raised hand* had corn on the cobb. And was happy about it. Well plus the steak.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (n5tGW)

84 78 "I believe in critical patriotism," Springsteen told PBS NewsHour.

What the hell does that even mean??

Critical patriotism?

Posted by: dantesed at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (w1twS)

It means calling anyone you disagree with a Fascist and Hitler...

Posted by: Pinhead, Lead Cenobite and Hell Priest at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (l3cgK)

85 "Life, Larry and the Pursuit of Unhappiness." It's in the title - the pursuit of unhappiness. This is all these halfwit has-beens can come up with, unhappiness.

Hey Bruce, you fake everyman, did you protest our borders being overrun under Biden and innocents killed (and still being killed) because of it? Men, women, and children needlessly killed or maimed due to Biden & Co. desire to erase our borders. Pretti and Good were interfering with law enforcement in high security situations and were warned but did not heed. Quite a difference moron.

Posted by: Cheri at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (oiNtH)

86 I loved the video of him sitting at a desk surrounded by foreigners holding American flags and looking for all the world like they were in a hostage video.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:26 PM (Riz8t)


Looked like those American flags were burning their hands

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (GsrgF)

87
Star of "Seabiscuit" Sarah Jessica Parker


* loud guffaws *

Our Independence Day was great, despite temperatures being in the high 90s. We assisted our neighbor with making popcorn and handing out bags of it to participants in our mobile home park's golf cart parade just before noon. The neighboring park staged a fireworks display that may has well have been in our own -- it was that close by.

Folks had pretty much dispersed and headed home by noon yesterday. This place was almost completely deserted. I did not mind -- the quietness of this area is rare these dats and most enjoyable.

It's raining today, so I am heading back north a half day early in an hour or so. The missus has some prescriptions that need to be gathered in and I have checks and such to write for the lapidary folks.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (s9VOe)

88 62 CaliGirl, Ally Sheedy was waaaay prettier than Molly.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (77rzZ)

89 Molly Ringwold shat on John Hughes shortly after his death. He made her a star and gave her everything she has today. After he died she said she regrets the roles because they were “problematic”. Uhm ok then I guess you’ll be giving back the money too right?

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (WUIO9)

WTF was the problem with any of her roles?

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She was Cishet!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (ndZc7)

90 I see dead people

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (wBaIH)

91 No giant paper meche heads not a protest.

Posted by: Pudinhead at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (1D2Ie)

92 Molly Ringworm always looked like someone was holding a cat turd under her nose. Never got the appeal.

Posted by: sifty boones at July 06, 2026 12:26 PM (haByY)


Her acting range consists of looking like she has a mouthful of cum ready to spit out...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 12:29 PM (l4RKn)

93 89 62 CaliGirl, Ally Sheedy was waaaay prettier than Molly.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (77rzZ)

There's something about Winnona Ryder...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)

94 18 Did Sarah Jessica Parker play the horse?
Posted by: Richard Cranium
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Her father was the famous actor, Mr. Ed.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (E4rtv)

95 WTF was the problem with any of her roles?

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She was Cishet!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM


I think it was more the whiney teenaged angst.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (bFu5X)

96 What is wrong with you people? Not one of you went with the "Corn on the COB? And how did the COB feel about this? Is this a new function the COBS are now responsible for?"

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (UJMvS)

97 "I loved the video of him sitting at a desk surrounded by foreigners holding American flags and looking for all the world like they were in a hostage video.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:26 PM (Riz8t) ":

yeah, LOL, and the desk was backwards, drawers facing the camera. sure sign of a loser who has never worked one single day of his worthless life, even at a desk job.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (VyBeY)

98
Did Reiner portray George Washington as an aggressive butthead, simultaneously overbearing and whiny? Method acting, in other words.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (VWtfl)

99 "I believe in critical patriotism," Springsteen told PBS NewsHour.

What the hell does that even mean??

Critical patriotism?
Posted by: dantesed

He's critical of patriotism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ndZc7)

100 Her acting range consists of looking like she has

Dude!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (Riz8t)

101 Random thought just now, imagine Heathers with Molly as the first Heather to get whacked.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (R+iUD)

102 Cancer update: Just got back from seeing doctor #3 - urologist 2nd opinion - which accomplished getting a referral to doctor #4 - radiotherapist 2nd opinion. And that will allow me to begin treatment (I've decided on radiation + hormone therapy) at a location closer to my home.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ExV1e)

103 96 What is wrong with you people? Not one of you went with the "Corn on the COB? And how did the COB feel about this? Is this a new function the COBS are now responsible for?"

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (UJMvS)

Do COBs Cornhole?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (l3cgK)

104 "I believe in critical patriotism," Springsteen told PBS NewsHour.

What the hell does that even mean??
Critical patriotism?
Posted by: dantesed at July 06, 2026 12:27 PM (w1twS)


There is no reality in patriotism, only a narrative about patriotism that can be shaped to influence the general populace's behavior.

Ideally by prominent sock-puppets like Bruce Springsteen and Molly Ringwald.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:31 PM (rbvCR)

105 Bruce Springsteen sings like Harvey Fierstein drank a 2liter bottle of NyQuil.

Posted by: sifty boones at July 06, 2026 12:31 PM (haByY)

106 You leave SJP alone!

Posted by: Rabid Moroccan Donkey with a Ruptured Asshole at July 06, 2026 12:31 PM (wOO3z)

107 Twice this summer I've misspelled cob as cobb in texts. I believe my aging brain synapses have been dipping into the salad file during retrieval.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 06, 2026 12:31 PM (sl73Y)

108 102 Cancer update: Just got back from seeing doctor #3 - urologist 2nd opinion - which accomplished getting a referral to doctor #4 - radiotherapist 2nd opinion. And that will allow me to begin treatment (I've decided on radiation + hormone therapy) at a location closer to my home.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ExV1e)

If you claim the hormones are for tranny therapy, are they free?

But Seriously, take care, man.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:31 PM (l3cgK)

109 89 Molly Ringwold shat on John Hughes shortly after his death. He made her a star and gave her everything she has today. After he died she said she regrets the roles because they were “problematic”. Uhm ok then I guess you’ll be giving back the money too right?

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho
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Problematic because without John Hughes, Molly Ringworm is and ought to be forgotten. Her subsequent career trajectory reached its peak and it has been all downhill since Hughes.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:31 PM (E4rtv)

110 Rob Reiner even came back from the dead to get his cut in.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 12:32 PM (0fRvS)

111 Ally Sheedy in her movies looked like a pretty young woman.

Molly Ringwald looked like what Roger DeBris and Karman Gia thought a pretty young woman should look like.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:32 PM (2GVsD)

112 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ExV1e)


Good... Will continue prayers for you

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:32 PM (GsrgF)

113 It's a endless mystery to me why the left thinks it helps their cause to drag out a few musty old duckspeaking commie relics that most people couldn't recognize in a police line-up.



They live in a circle jerk Los Angeles bubble where their opinions are very important and the entire world needs to know them. They truly believe the great unwashed outside the TMZ bows down to their every proclamation.

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:32 PM (WUIO9)

114 Yo, Bruce, what, exactly, did you criticize Joe for? You didn't? so, your "critical patriotism" is selective?

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 06, 2026 12:32 PM (UJMvS)

115 their blood- and feces-splattering sex orgies.

Gladiator movies?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 06, 2026 12:32 PM (Kt19C)

116 I’m a musician and music lover. Wide variety.
Bruce sucks ass. Never liked his stuff.
I’ve dropped 10 lbs in this East Texas heat. Happens every summer.

Posted by: Billythesquid at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (iB3vr)

117 1776:
We sign this document against tyranny, knowing full well it means we forfeit our lives, our freedom and our property should we be captured by officers of the state.

2026:
We dress up in costumes and read some words in the public square that someone else wrote calling the President a tyrant and are ignored, especially by officers of the state.

Exactly the same!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (3cUTc)

118 Now he can go back to Hell

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (0fRvS)

119 By the way, the current problem in the world is that Saudi Arabia's ARAMCO is selling petroleum at about a buck below cost.

This means the deflation in the world economy is going to destroy us all.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (rbvCR)

120 we laid around in the pool and then went to the biggest family party on Carancuwa Bay that included 30 minutes of fireworks off the pier...Texas

Posted by: DanMan at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (8uzBS)

121 >> Star of Seabiscuit Sarah Jessica Parker

Hahaha!! I LoL’d

I recently asked Grok to name the most prominent horse-faced celebrity. Without hesitation the answer was SJP…. Taylor Swift got an honorable mention lol

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (TCUO6)

122 I did a steak for the 4th with potatoes and mushrooms. Had corn on the cob Friday tho'. Most, if not all of the corn grown around here goes to the distilleries for Bourbon.

Which is a fair trade off.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (jehhT)

123 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 12:30 PM (ExV1e)

Thanks for the update. Will continue to pray for you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 12:34 PM (D+BhG)

124 I did! I did have corn on the cob!!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 06, 2026 12:34 PM (amcLV)

125 Carnival, sometimes called the Section 8 of the Sea.

I was pleasantly surprised. The food was good. I didn't see any hood behavior. The entertainment was a little sparse, but I don't need a ton of entertainment.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:16 PM (mkw2N)
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Headed out on Saturday for our first family cruise on Carnival. 7 days out of Galveston. Hoping that paying the Ratchet Tax by upgrading to a suite keeps us out of the riff-raff.
Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (oqH4h)
__________

The ghetto cruises are the short (3 day) cruises that are sold cheap and promoted as party cruises. Typically Miami to an island in the Caribbean. They obviously attract a certain undesirable clientele of feral blacks, white trash, and younger party animals.

Not my scene.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:34 PM (iFTx/)

126 This means the deflation in the world economy is going to destroy us all.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM


Meh...Net Neutrality already killed me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:34 PM (bFu5X)

127 I think we were cooler temp wise than the east coast, about 90 as a high. We were on the bay for fireworks, so had the breeze off of it, which helped.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2026 12:35 PM (p4NUW)

128 2026:
We dress up in costumes and read some words in the public square that someone else wrote calling the President a tyrant and are ignored, especially by officers of the state.

Exactly the same!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (3cUTc)
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Remember, those same "edgy" people freely criticize Christianity but are mum about Muslims. Gosh, I wonder why?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 06, 2026 12:35 PM (UJMvS)

129 98
Did Reiner portray George Washington as an aggressive butthead, simultaneously overbearing and whiny? Method acting, in other words.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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Washington would have kicked Reiner's ass for his portrayal as a self centered egotistical blowhard entertainer. In those days, camp followers ranked equally with entertainers in social status and I hope our society is heading that way again.

Washington worked hard to control his temper and to become a proper gentleman. But when provoked by idiots, his ability to express himself in the art of swearing was held in awe by some of his Revolutionary troops.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:35 PM (E4rtv)

130 > Hoping that paying the Ratchet Tax by upgrading to a suite keeps us out of the riff-raff.

I was in a suite too. You get priority boarding and debarkation, but pretty much everything outside of your room is fully accessible by everyone else on the ship. You can pay extra for access to some exclusive spa areas. There's also usually a 21 and older area if you don't want to be around kids.

On my trip there was a rowdier pool and a quieter pool. Even the rowdy pool area was just more populated, not badly behaved.

One thing my ship lacked was a library space. We usually use that area to play games. We had to search a while to find a suitable spot for that.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:35 PM (mkw2N)

131 There's something about Winnona Ryder...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)


Yes indeed...cute, with a nice rack? That's a nice combination.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (l4RKn)

132 Plus, I saw Unbridled Narcissism open for The Stone Ponys back in the day.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (amcLV)

133 I had forgotten Meathead was dead. Knifed by his batshit nutso kid.

Good riddance.

Posted by: Gone and Forgotten at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (og9zY)

134 Rob Reiner? Last laugh? It might actually have been his last laugh. I have a feeling he ain't laughing now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (1Ff7Z)

135 Critical Patriotism is saying that woman is kind of attractive. But let me tell you the in great detail, 81 things wrong with her.

Posted by: Skanky Ass Ho at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (WUIO9)

136 Shockingly, for modern American medicine, I have to leave now to go see the radiotherapist.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (ExV1e)

137

"A host of members from the cosseted Hollywood elites "

That should read...

"A host of members from the closeted Hollywood elites"

I was in the breadbasket of the USA, rural Ohio, for the weekend.

That said, my waiter at a restaurant was the gayest person I've ever seen. Huge rainbow fingernails, earrings, badly applied makeup, short shorts, just looked ridiculous.

If he didnt have full-blown, no offense, AIDS I'd be shocked.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz PhD Esq at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (et1vG)

138 Don’t mock me… I really like Springsteen’s Born in the USA album… part of my attraction is almost certainly college nostalgia because those songs are automatically associated with good times in college

I still like Glory Days and Downbound Train and I’m On Fire…. I’m a music philistine….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM (TCUO6)

139 Remember, those same "edgy" people freely criticize Christianity but are mum about Muslims. Gosh, I wonder why?
Posted by: Blake
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Because they were raised as spoiled brats and never spanked near enough as kids. If you notice, none of them served in the military, police, or fire nor did they risk one pinky of doing anything difficult and dangerous for their country.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:37 PM (E4rtv)

140 George MFing Washington was 6' 7" and weighed a ton.

Posted by: obvs. at July 06, 2026 12:37 PM (anL5R)

141 The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.

I don't think he understands what that phrase means. Dying doesn't mean you won.
Posted by: Oddbob at

And the way he died? If your kid ends up killing you that's not exactly evidence that people should follow your advice. Who got the last laugh? Not you Rob.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 06, 2026 12:37 PM (sl73Y)

142 Shockingly, for modern American medicine, I have to leave now to go see the radiotherapist.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 12:36 PM


Best of luck. I'll keep pestering the appropriate saints on your behalf.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:38 PM (bFu5X)

143 Sarah Jessica Parker has always looked like an old hag. Dorian Gray effect?

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 06, 2026 12:38 PM (jPdyB)

144 I mentioned Josh Shapiro above. Jonathan Turley has a new column exploring Shapiro's new embrace of packing SCOTUS, and how that destroys his "moderate" image. They're all just a bunch of wannabe totalitarians, but some are better at hiding it than others.

Below is my column in Fox.com on the recent decision of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro to join the ranks of Democrats calling for packing the Supreme Court. It is a disappointing moment for many of us who hoped that Shapiro could offer a moderate voice in the upcoming elections, resisting the rise of socialists and communists in his party. Instead, he proved to be just another politician thinking of the next election rather than the next generation.

https://tinyurl.com/3fmkvjkv

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:38 PM (Riz8t)

145 had a duel with his sensei

and he never said why

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 12:38 PM (VyBeY)

146
Bruce Springsteen was originally a sensitive singer-songwriter type, before he was marketed as a blue collar working class hero. He's always been an anti-American leftist through and through. His songs 'celebrating' everyday Americans are fraudulent -- every single one is about sad desperate people failed by the American system. It's communist agitprop.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 06, 2026 12:38 PM (VWtfl)

147 Trump is a fascist.

And to prove this we will make endless movies and TV shows about how horrible he is with ZERO fear of Trump imprisoning us, like a fascist would.

We’re smart that way.

Posted by: Retarded Hollywood at July 06, 2026 12:38 PM (WUIO9)

148 106 You leave SJP alone!
Posted by: Rabid Moroccan Donkey with a Ruptured Asshole at July 06, 2026 12:31 PM (wOO3z)
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Endorsed!

Posted by: John F. Kerry, don't you know who I am? at July 06, 2026 12:39 PM (PiwSw)

149 138 Don’t mock me… I really like Springsteen’s Born in the USA album… part of my attraction is almost certainly college nostalgia because those songs are automatically associated with good times in college

I still like Glory Days and Downbound Train and I’m On Fire…. I’m a music philistine….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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You can feel better about your money not supporting the aging lesbian troon as Springstain sold his musical rights to his old stuff for hundreds of millions several years ago. He gets none of the song writing royalties from them for his recorded versions anymore--dunno about performance royalties.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:39 PM (E4rtv)

150 Good afternoon, everyone.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 06, 2026 12:40 PM (CHHv1)

151 143 Sarah Jessica Parker has always looked like an old hag. Dorian Gray effect?
Posted by: Smellslikevictory

you misspelled nag.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:40 PM (E4rtv)

152 Afternoon Ace.
Those are some stars from yesteryear. Ruffalo always plays Ruffalo. Whoever they are pretending to be and think I just don't care

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 12:40 PM (G15zZ)

153 Do all of these people live in the shitholes known as Los Angeles and NYC?

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 12:40 PM (/WQyy)

154 I'm going down, do wn, down, down.
I'm going down, down, dow n, down.
I'm going down, down, down, down.
I'm going down, down, down, down.

Posted by: Brews Stinkspleen's Most Insightful Lyrics at July 06, 2026 12:40 PM (7Q0e+)

155 They're all just a bunch of wannabe totalitarians, but some are better at hiding it than others.
==
But wait, they are all totally against tyranny, they just told you so!

Posted by: Let's put them in charge and see what happens next at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (anL5R)

156 Is SJP still married to Matthew Broderick?

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (77rzZ)

157 My July 4th was great. Was it swelteringly hot? Yes. But life goes on.

We had our annual July 4 BBQ we call ... "The Annual." Been doing it every year for over 30 years, since we were kids. Got some nice Macallan and cigars.

The worst part was driving from my Manhattan apartment to my NJ house and back again on Sunday. Insane traffic. Took me almost 2 hours each way. Normally, it can be done in a little over an hour.

Summer weekends are always bad, because everyone in Manhattan leaves for the weekend to the Hamptons, upstate, or NJ shore. But this weekend was exceptional in that regard.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

158 Jonathan Turley has a new column exploring Shapiro's new embrace of packing SCOTUS, and how that destroys his "moderate" image.

Doesn't matter - Shapiro is an observant Jew, and that is fatal in the New Democratic Party.

Why, he hasn't even denounced Israel for genocide yet!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (aD4fx)

159 or just ignore them?"

Si.

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (XuXeR)

160 Trump didn't not honer any way or trans h inoor veterans on July 4. This both e rs us and we c alls on Presdent obono too dew somethings aboots this now!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (kBcTc)

161 “This lovely land, this glorious liberty, these benign institutions, the dear purchase of our fathers, are ours; ours to enjoy, ours to preserve, ours to transmit… We can never pay the debt which is upon us; but by virtue, by morality, by religion, by the cultivation of every good principle and every good habit, we may hope to enjoy the blessing through our day, and to leave it unimpaired to our children.”—Daniel Webster, Address on the Deaths of Adams and Jefferson, August 2, 1826

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (kYmoU)

162 Hag-Nag. It fits.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 06, 2026 12:41 PM (jPdyB)

163 So predictable.

Check out all the woke Americans who are rooting for Belgium tonight because Orange Man Bad

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (ndZc7)

164 > George MFing Washington was 6' 7" and weighed a ton.

Probably closer to 6'2" - 6'3". We have his clothes and measurements taken by tailors.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (mkw2N)

165 Asked way downstairs
WTF is Mamdani sitting behind George Washington desk but facing the camera?

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (sgkY8)

166 What would be the definition of "wee wee hours?"

Between 2am-4am, or 1am-3am?

Or anytime you have to get up and pee?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (PiwSw)

167 Hag-nag?

Gesundheit

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (2GVsD)

168 because everyone in Manhattan leaves for the weekend to the Hamptons, upstate, or NJ shore. But this weekend was exceptional in that regard."

Funny. So many traveling in this affordability crisis...

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (XuXeR)

169 Springsteen looks like an aging lesbian.

Posted by: Peter B at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (VTbl0)

170 Parker was never attractive on her best day. The best I can say about her was when she was in her heyday she was a Butterface.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 12:43 PM (/WQyy)

171 How was yours? Any one have corn on the cob? I did. Dang corn on the cob is good.
*******
I had corn on the cob (delicious), barbecued ribs and sausage watched fireworks at the lake in our neighborhood and watched the Trump fireworks. I had a great 4th!

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 12:43 PM (NpAcC)

172 Sarah Jessica Parker has always looked like an old hag. Dorian Gray effect?
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 06, 2026 12:38 PM (jPdyB)
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She was pretty cute in "L.A. Story," but that didn't last as long as one might have hoped.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 06, 2026 12:43 PM (amcLV)

173 Probably closer to 6'2" - 6'3".

*sigh*

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:43 PM (XuXeR)

174 Why, he hasn't even denounced Israel for genocide yet!

It should be noted that pervert-enabler Scott Weiner, who is running for Nancy Pelosi's seat, did denounce Israel for genocide.

No matter - he's Jewish, and the mob is still coming for him.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 06, 2026 12:43 PM (aD4fx)

175 They're all just a bunch of wannabe totalitarians, but some are better at hiding it than others.
==
But wait, they are all totally against tyranny, they just told you so!

Posted by: Let's put them in charge and see what happens next


And the truly say thing is that he's sold his soul for a position on a ticket he will never get. My Protestant pale ass has a better chance.

Compare and contrast to Tulsi Gabbard.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:43 PM (Riz8t)

176 The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.

"Haha, I'm dead"? I don't get it.

Posted by: t-bird at July 06, 2026 12:43 PM (E/qck)

177 @144 Shapiro shouldn't bother. The Dem left is anti-Semitic and they aren't nominating a Jewish guy who tries to thread the needle with his positions. He's also pro Israel so that will make him a no go for the crazies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (G15zZ)

178 CaliGirl, Ally Sheedy was waaaay prettier than Molly.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:28 PM (77rzZ)

There's something about Winnona Ryder...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:29 PM (l3cgK)
_______

That she's batshit crazy? LOL. But The Blade would have, at least back in the day. No idea what she looks like today. Not even sure she's still alive.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

179 Scott Wiener?

Any relation to Anthony Wiener?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (2GVsD)

180 Springsteen looks like an aging lesbian.

++++

You win the internet today.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (jPdyB)

181 Carried over:

174 I don't care enough to hate Taylor Swift . I hope it works out for them actually as I do for anyone getting married.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:53 AM (/WQyy)


As do I. However, I present for your amusement and edification the genuinely good pop song "Blank Space" (8x platinum), from her 14x-platinum fifth studio album 1989 (2014). The thing to note here is that her portrayal of a BPD chick is so on point that either she is a great actress, or clever direction obviated the need for acting, or maybe... just maybe... it was typecasting. If the latter case, they're doomed and no one can stop it.

Taylor Swift - Blank Space
https://youtu.be/e-ORhEE9VVg

Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (Sy6m/)

182 176 The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.

Because he played Washington ? Why would Trump care about that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (FtULh)

183 Asked way downstairs
WTF is Mamdani sitting behind George Washington desk but facing the camera?
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM


Honestly asking the question, is it a double-sided "partners'" desk?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:45 PM (bFu5X)

184 151 143 Sarah Jessica Parker has always looked like an old hag. Dorian Gray effect?
Posted by: Smellslikevictory

you misspelled nag.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:40 PM (E4rtv)

Neigh!

Posted by: Sea Biscuit at July 06, 2026 12:45 PM (l3cgK)

185 Check out all the woke Americans who are rooting for Belgium tonight because Orange Man Bad

It would be hilarious if USA won the tournament - Leftist heads would explode.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 06, 2026 12:45 PM (aD4fx)

186 Life with these people must be horrific.

They wake up pissed off every day and just whine about everything.

Movie Stars and Lefty Musicians --------->
"Money for Nothing and ugly chicks for free"...

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 06, 2026 12:45 PM (fk/Nn)

187
George MFing Washington was 6' 7" and weighed a ton.

Probably closer to 6'2" - 6'3". We have his clothes and measurements taken by tailors.
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WRONG!!!!
SEE DEFINITIVE HISTORICAL DOCUMNENTARY BELOW

https://tinyurl.com/mwnvvnkf

Posted by: Let's put them in charge and see what happens next at July 06, 2026 12:45 PM (anL5R)

188 62 I always thought that Molly Ringwald wasn't pretty enough to be the one that all the cute boys wanted to date. They were lying to us.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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Her smug entitled solipsistic bitchiness was realistic for a certain sort of yute in high school in the 80's. But most of us normie types thought they were drags to be around at the time. Certainly not desirable as girlfriends. Sheedy was the fun one of the Breakfast Club.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:45 PM (E4rtv)

189 Molly Ringwald was another actress Hollywood tried to gaslight us as a pretty girl. Never has been imo. Not even a butterface.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 12:46 PM (/WQyy)

190 165 Asked way downstairs
WTF is Mamdani sitting behind George Washington desk but facing the camera?

That caught my eye also... Sitting backwards behind the desk or what ???

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 06, 2026 12:46 PM (fk/Nn)

191 Oh, and if you note, Ringwald was never on Psych as a guest star (I don't think Emilio was either).

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:46 PM (E4rtv)

192 >>Larry David's Obama-produced HBO show is Reiner's "last laugh" against President Donald Trump.

Uh, DJT is still breathing. At least he wasn’t murdered by a retarded offspring.

#winning.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 06, 2026 12:46 PM (E/qck)

193 The entire “entertainment” has turned into a mean girls table at the high school cafeteria, and they’ve got their own gossip notes that they pass out to their remaining few socially desperate worshippers.

It makes me glad that their entire industry is about to be replaced by AI.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 12:46 PM (6SRz+)

194 It would be hilarious if USA won the tournament - Leftist heads would explode."

The explosions have been ongoing. Record sales, enthusiasm from visitors, country roads...

It wasn't supposed to be this way!

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:46 PM (XuXeR)

195 heck out all the woke Americans who are rooting for Belgium tonight because Orange Man Bad

It would be hilarious if USA won the tournament - Leftist heads would explode
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Yup - because Trump is awarding the trophy. Would probably set USA soccer back a decade.

Posted by: European Kickball at July 06, 2026 12:47 PM (anL5R)

196 That’s good to know Whig. Yeah I bought his USA album in 84 but never been to a concert

Rockers should exit the stage after say 30-35…. They don’t age well. Reference: Keith Richards

Of course at least he’s lived awhile compared to Jim Morrison or Janis Joplin… the died young list is crowded there starting with Buddy Holly

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 12:47 PM (TCUO6)

197 "The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump."

Yea ... Trump was totally right to mock this loser's death at the hands of his own lunatic junkie son. Now, it wasn't Reiner himself who said this, but I'll bet any amount of money that's how he feels in hell.

These people are so deranged they literally think a posthumous appearance in some stupid video that nobody will watch is getting the "last laugh" at the still-living most powerful man in the world. Comically pathetic.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:47 PM (iFTx/)

198 Neigh!
Posted by: Sea Biscuit
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A flea bitten nag I say.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:47 PM (E4rtv)

199 Washington would have kicked Reiner's ass for his portrayal as a self centered egotistical blowhard entertainer. In those days, camp followers ranked equally with entertainers in social status and I hope our society is heading that way again.

Washington worked hard to control his temper and to become a proper gentleman. But when provoked by idiots, his ability to express himself in the art of swearing was held in awe by some of his Revolutionary troops.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:35 PM (E4rtv)

Now that would be a wonderful use of a time machine, with quality A/V equipment! Imagine playing that for the scolds today. There wouldn't be enough fainting couches to catch them all.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 12:48 PM (qx7Zg)

200 Dang corn on the cob is good.

Yes. It was on sale when I went shopping Friday morning, so I had a bunch; put it on the grill along with ribs basted with Graceland’s Special BBQ sauce (I went to Memphis on the way back from Chattanooga last week).

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2026 12:48 PM (kYmoU)

201 Let's never forget when Molly Ringwald weighed in on the 2014 Texas gubernatorial race, endorsing the Democrat as "the next governor of Houston!"

Verbatim.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at July 06, 2026 12:48 PM (SwInp)

202 National Education Association (NEA) annual convention in Portland, Oregon this week adopted new business items demanding the impeachment, conviction, and removal of President Donald Trump from office

"The National Education Association will call for the impeachment, conviction, and removal of Donald Trump from the US Presidency."

They want a "National March on Washington D.C. to remove Trump before the November 2026 midterm election"

The business item would cost $5,236,193.

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 12:48 PM (RHGPo)

203 Cher, Bette Midler, Madonna and DeNiro are finally in assisted living and the new, old entertainment breed (cited above) have been tagged in?
--
The Hill, Former presidents reflect on America at 250: ‘Constant work in progress’ July 4, 2026

Really? For real Biden could write like that in the last 20 frigging years? C'mon man! You know it's theater.
--
The U.S. Congress takes an extended "summer break," formally known as the August state/district work period, which typically begins in early August and lasts until after Labor Day in September.

Ergo, it's heavy PR time for the progressive lunatics. It follows suit, ALWAYS the exact same game plan in summer before Congressional vaca - & with the fall mid-terms elections.

The biggest disgrace, "the White supremacist group Patriot Front marches through D.C. - 6th near C Street - on the holiday weekend." Khakli pants, NB polo shirts and white face coverings.

Obviously White people, young, decent shape; an even better, more coordinated look than Charlottesville, and minus tiki torches! (Too damn hot, wait for the fall).

And one "White supremacist" poster shown on a pole.

Impeachment plan 3, dear.




Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (NFX2v)

204 Women sure seem to get sucked into Marxist theory quickly

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (sgkY8)

205 Reiner sure showed Trump.
Reiner is dead
Reiner's wife is dead
Reiner's son is going to prison for life
Reiner's other kids are traumatized (albeit wealthy from the estate)
Take that Trump

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (G15zZ)

206 Shapiro shouldn't bother. The Dem left is anti-Semitic and they aren't nominating a Jewish guy who tries to thread the needle with his positions. He's also pro Israel so that will make him a no go for the crazies
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (G15zZ)


Two of the worst impulses are to both want to win at all costs, and be ideologically constrained as to what actions can be taken.
It leads to doing ineffectual things that are actually damaging instead of doing useful things that will achieve success.

If Shapiro wanted to win at all costs he would start talking about how illegals are getting jobs, benefits and free housing that freezes out the loyal dem voters who are being ground into poverty by the system.
If he did that he would probably win anything he ran for.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (rbvCR)

207 Trump seems to get along with his sons a little bit better than Rob did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (6SRz+)

208 The National Education Association will call for the impeachment, conviction, and removal of Donald Trump from the US Presidency"

Ha ha.

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (XuXeR)

209 > SEE DEFINITIVE HISTORICAL DOCUMNENTARY BELOW

Oh, was that a reference? I got whooshed.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (mkw2N)

210 Scott Wiener?

Any relation to Anthony Wiener?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (2GVsD)

They're both dicks?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (1Ff7Z)

211 OrangeMan Bad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: (D)emocrats & the MSM at July 06, 2026 12:50 PM (0sNs1)

212 Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:35 PM (E4rtv

He had no problem executing a few troops who decided to desert and get others to do the same.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 12:50 PM (/WQyy)

213 Molly Ringwald showed her world class pair of talents in Malicious.

Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2026 12:50 PM (Q+gd/)

214 According to a new “Survey of Adult Skills” conducted by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development — a forum for 38 high-income, predominantly Western countries — a not insignificant number of adult students enrolled in higher education are now reading and doing math at a level which, in a more functional society, would be alarming for a middle schooler.

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 12:51 PM (RHGPo)

215 "National March on Washington D.C. to remove Trump before the November 2026 midterm election"

Sounds insurectiony. Shoot them on sight.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 12:51 PM (DCsZP)

216 Asked way downstairs
WTF is Mamdani sitting behind George Washington desk but facing the camera?

That caught my eye also... Sitting backwards behind the desk or what ???
Posted by: Jackson K. at July 06, 2026 12:46 PM (fk/Nn)

He knows he isn't good enough to sit and act as if he belongs at the desk, but perhaps he's good enough to be a beggar at it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 12:51 PM (qx7Zg)

217 Baron Trump is 6'7" and weighs a ton. Coincidence?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:51 PM (ndZc7)

218 Washington wasn’t some wallflower. He had people shot for treason and desertion. I love how some bearded pussy foreigner that mouth breathing idiots put in office sits at his desk line he is owning him. Ok sparky.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM (E/qck)

219 The there is Madamai's wife who celebrated the 4th of July by leaving the country for a spa weekend in Spain.
Seems to me, unless you despise the nation, you might want to be here for its 250th celebration. That goes double, maybe triple, if you are the wife of the Mayor of New York City. To my tin ear that sends a clear message about the direction these asshats are intending to head.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM (/eAef)

220 Probably the two best words to describe George Washington: self control

After the cherry tree incident of course

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM (TCUO6)

221 204 Women sure seem to get sucked into Marxist theory quickly
Posted by: Skip

Some. As do some men. 🤨

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM (NFX2v)

222 That she's batshit crazy? LOL. But The Blade would have, at least back in the day. No idea what she looks like today. Not even sure she's still alive.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Who knows? Apparently she has a big, brown beaver.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM (wOO3z)

223 Rockers should exit the stage after say 30-35…. They don’t age well. Reference: Keith Richards

Of course at least he’s lived awhile compared to Jim Morrison or Janis Joplin… the died young list is crowded there starting with Buddy Holly
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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I would hang out with Keith a lot more as a person than Bruce even back in Bruce's heyday. Bruce became a professional leftist when Jon Landau took over management from his original manager Mike Appel.

Born to Run is where Landau eased out Appel as manager and that is the last time Appel produced an album. Notably Bruce's first three albums were relatively apolitical, right after Landau took over, Springsteen got involved in the No Nukes, Amnesty, and all of the other 'right' things and started spouting his fake and gay Woody Guthrie shit in his songs. Landau was a red diaper baby.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:53 PM (E4rtv)

224 Scott Wiener?

Any relation to Anthony Wiener?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 12:44 PM (2GVsD)

They're both dicks?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Now, Oscar Meyer, on the other hand . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (ndZc7)

225 Who knows? Apparently she has a big, brown beaver.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM (wOO3z)

Nice.

Posted by: Lt. Frank Drebin at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (1Ff7Z)

226 Molly Ringwald showed her world class pair of talents in Malicious.
Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2026 12:50 PM (Q+gd/)

Okay I will concede those were pretty nice.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (/WQyy)

227 Women sure seem to get sucked into Marxist theory quickly
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (sgkY
_______

Always did. Mao and to a lesser extent Stalin realized this and focused on recruiting lonely, disaffected girls and young ladies.

The female Red Guards were especially brutal in their violence. So much so, that when the RG was finally disbanded, some of them refused to give it up. The Chinese army ended up killing a lot of them.

If you can get a girl or young woman at the right time, and brainwash her, she is a true believer for life.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (iFTx/)

228 I get Winona Ryder mixed up with Marisa Tomei…. George Costanza had a big crush on the latter

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (TCUO6)

229 However, I present for your amusement and edification...

I didn't have nuttin to do with it.
Youse is gonna hear from my lawyer, you capitalist punk.

Posted by: Ed Asner at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (7Q0e+)

230 Baron Trump is 6'7" and weighs a ton. Coincidence?
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I think not.

Posted by: Meme incoming at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (anL5R)

231 @206 Kindltot , agree that the illegals v citizens on economic issues would be a good campaign (Trump should harp on it) but the left is heading so far down the antisemitic rabbit hole that I don't think it would help Shapiro

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 12:54 PM (G15zZ)

232 Winona is still alive.

Damn, she was hot AF In Heathers.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:55 PM (77rzZ)

233
If Shapiro wanted to win at all costs he would start talking about how illegals are getting jobs, benefits and free housing that freezes out the loyal dem voters who are being ground into poverty by the system.
If he did that he would probably win anything he ran for.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:49 PM (rbvCR)

You’ve hit on something, very few politicians today can bear the idea of “winning at all costs.” Someone like Shapiro lives very well, has everything he wants paid for by rich donors, and even if he loses he knows he’ll always be taken care of so long as he loses in “the right way.”

So he wants to win, but ONLY on the terms that his donors find agreeable and will keep the money flowing. As do they all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 12:55 PM (6SRz+)

234 GW s desk Drawers on both sides from someone smarter than me a day ago

Posted by: doug at July 06, 2026 12:55 PM (Hy+R4)

235 Does Wynona's beaver eat Taco Bell?

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (DCsZP)

236 >>> 164 George MFing Washington was 6' 7" and weighed a ton.
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Probably closer to 6'2" - 6'3". We have his clothes and measurements taken by tailors.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (mkw2N)

https://youtu.be/Ex2hj5rLN48

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (R+iUD)

237 If you can get a girl or young woman at the right time, and brainwash her, she is a true believer for life.
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I'm right here you know?!?!!!

Posted by: Triggley Puff at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (anL5R)

238 176 The show's director, Jeff Schaffer, told the magazine that the role allowed Reiner to get the "last laugh" against President Trump.

Just when you think that they can't more sophomoric. Did Reiner know this when he was filming that he was going to get "the laugh" against Trump? Weirdos.

Posted by: Cheri at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (oiNtH)

239 It would be hilarious if USA won the tournament - Leftist heads would explode.

It would be "call your doctor, you're going to have a boner for years" level if the World Cup, Europe's tournament they care most about, caused the EUSSR to lose control of their citizens (lots of Euro-peasants back home are watching those videos of Europeans discovering Buc-ees too) *and* they lost.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (2ocoG)

240 Who knows? Apparently she has a big, brown beaver.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM


I recall reading somewhere that she's a natural blonde. So...AI?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (bFu5X)

241 Our building's A/C was turned off over the weekend, and now it's a sauna with a 50 year old HVAC system trying to displace the heat of seven hells. I'm not a European; I don't want to live like this to "save da earf."

Posted by: PabloD at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (iJsYR)

242 Remember back when it seemed important that a company had to have their own DOS.
Better yet, remember when it seemed important that a company had to have their own Office Suite of tools.
Then came just a few years ago, every company was going to have online gaming. Google, Microsoft, Sony, Tencent, and Nintendo.

Key Points

- Microsoft is laying off 4,800 employees after carrying out a voluntary retirement program.
- The company’s Xbox video game unit is cutting one-fifth of its staff, and four studios will go independent.
- Microsoft’s stock is down 19% this year as of Friday’s close, trailing its megacap peers.

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (RHGPo)

243 Reiner was killed by his own leftism. Sure his son is a drug addled psychotic, but I suspect Reiner's worldview and hollywood had a lot to do with it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (n5tGW)

244 Just when you think that they can't more sophomoric. Did Reiner know this when he was filming that he was going to get "the laugh" against Trump? Weirdos.

I would argue that Reiner's son got the last laugh.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (2ocoG)

245 Our building's A/C was turned off over the weekend,

===


Commies !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 12:57 PM (GD0B3)

246 National March on Washington D.C. to remove Trump before the November 2026 midterm election"

Oh good, we can fill the prisons the J6ers left

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:57 PM (sgkY8)

247 Ace, the heat breaks when it gets dark. At night. Well, except here where it’s hot all f’ing night.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2026 12:57 PM (EL+rm)

248 An only slightly off-topic rant:

Anyone who wants to set off fireworks should be required to pass a rudimentary civics test before being allowed to purchase them.

If you know the three branches, you probably don't look at a clock reading 2AM, and think "Its time to light off some M80's!"

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 06, 2026 12:58 PM (4RJmo)

249 I recall reading somewhere that she's a natural blonde. So...AI?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (bFu5X)

So the carpet doesn't match the drapes?

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 12:58 PM (DCsZP)

250 I honestly don’t know most of the names in that article. The only one I kinda knew was Lisa Rhinna only because there was an article with a picture and she looked like a kid when they press their lips up against glass. I think her top lip touches her nose and the bottom one is on her chin. She looks like an alien and about as smart as a bag of dirt.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (E/qck)

251 I can only think of two major figures today who are committed to winning At All Costs, and they’re both hated for it.
Donald Trump and Ken Paxton.

Ted Cruz is right most of the time, but he’s hated because he’s usually a temperamental ass about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (6SRz+)

252 National March on Washington D.C. to remove Trump before the November 2026 midterm election

Speaking of midterms, the RNC announced today that they have 140 lawsuits active about voter fraud. I'm glad they haven't let up on that stuff.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (2ocoG)

253 Looks like his son got the last laugh.... Too soon ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:14 PM (GsrgF)

Exactly what Brit Lass said the other night to me

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (vE0+H)

254 Reiner's son is trying to collect 1.5 million from the Estate to pay his attorneys The courts or the trust shut that down and now he has to have a public defender.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (/WQyy)

255 Probably closer to 6'2" - 6'3". We have his clothes and measurements taken by tailors.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 06, 2026 12:42 PM (mkw2N)

Another fun fact about the Father of our Country - he liked to get a load on and dance! Apparently, he was known to be quite the dancer after downing a few dozen ales.

Now, that's American! A fine tradition carried on by American men ever since.

Posted by: Cheri at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (oiNtH)

256 ‘The View’ turned down Mamdani request to bring on Israel-hating candidates over fear of FCC: report

Damn straight.

My local ABC news affiliate is running commercials to drum up support for their license renewal.

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (RHGPo)

257 Trump really does live rent free inside these people's heads. 24/7/365

Posted by: steevy at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (YwEeS)

258 Now that would be a wonderful use of a time machine, with quality A/V equipment! Imagine playing that for the scolds today. There wouldn't be enough fainting couches to catch them all.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Gouvernor Morris (responsible for much of the wording and style of the US Constitution) once took a bet to glad hand George Washington at a formal levee when Washington was president. Morris came up and clapped Washington on the back and treated him like an old school chum. Washington immediately let Morris know it was unacceptable behavior and Morris told later that Washington's icy stare and visible anger made Morris unwilling to repeat the stunt for all the money in the world.

Washington did not suffer fools gladly.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (E4rtv)

259 Sarah Jessica Parker, Mark Ruffalo, Molly Ringwald, Sheryl Lee Ralph and Bradley Whitford

3 has beens and 2 never weres. These people are desperate to seem relevant. This is the answer to people who ask "Whatever happened to Molly Ringwald?" Except no one actually asks that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 06, 2026 01:00 PM (0Htd1)

260 "It's coming out on Fourth of July weekend, and if it in any way spoils a sad octogenarian's weekend, then oh well!" Schaffer added."

Trump had the last laugh. His fireworks and speech was awesome.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 01:00 PM (NpAcC)

261 The late Paul Harvey's "They Paid the Price." 10 minute video about the lives and fate of the 56 Signers of the Declaration of Independence. Something I think Hollywood needs to remember.

https://youtu.be/s7vqzJC0r7A?

Posted by: Rex B at July 06, 2026 01:00 PM (rgnea)

262 219 The there is Madamai's wife who celebrated the 4th of July by leaving the country for a spa weekend in Spain.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram

An Islamic wellness retreat in Spain.

Strange timing. Wasn't there just an extreme heat wave cooking half of Europe?

Also: NPR, 'Huge crowds of mourners join a funeral procession for Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei' today.

A six day event.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 01:00 PM (NFX2v)

263 If Shapiro wants to win in the Democrat Party he will need to become muslim.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 06, 2026 01:00 PM (E/qck)

264 California lawmakers' push to make Muslim holy days state holidays sparks debate over school neutrality

.. and it's not just California

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (RHGPo)

265 Also: NPR, 'Huge crowds of mourners join a funeral procession for Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei' today.

A six day event.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 01:00 PM (NFX2v)
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Amateur.

Posted by: zombie John McCain at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (FZ29D)

266 - The company’s Xbox video game unit is cutting one-fifth of its staff, and four studios will go independent.

Xbox was recently taken over by a dot Indian. The strong suspicion is that those positions will be refilled with H1Bs, because the pattern has been Indian C-suiters Great Replacement-ing Big Tech.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (2ocoG)

267 >>Just when you think that they can't more sophomoric. Did Reiner know this when he was filming that he was going to get "the laugh" against Trump? Weirdos.


Odd that Conan O'Brien killed him. They shared so many beliefs!?

Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (5MUB0)

268 Another fun fact about the Father of our Country - he liked to get a load on and dance! Apparently, he was known to be quite the dancer after downing a few dozen ales.

Now, that's American! A fine tradition carried on by American men ever since.
Posted by: Cheri
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He was often brusque and severe with other men but apparently liked to chat up the ladies back in the day. Not much if any historical evidence of hanky panky though as the winter season had Martha coming up to stay with him. They were very devoted to each other by all accounts.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (E4rtv)

269 So often the leftists say Donald Trump is unhappy. This is mere projection. They are unhappy, very unhappy, so Trump must be unhappy! No, as far as I can tell, President Trump is having a grand old time being President again. That irks the left so much when they see it, so they do their best not to see it.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (qgNn3)

270 Reiner's son is trying to collect 1.5 million from the Estate to pay his attorneys The courts or the trust shut that down and now he has to have a public defender.
Posted by: polynikes

One of his siblings could disembowel him with a carpet knife and it would be a just punishment.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (wOO3z)

271 Washington did not suffer fools gladly.
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His personal secretary said that the most terrifying sound in all the world was the sound of G.W. cursing a blue streak.

Posted by: Triggley Puff at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (anL5R)

272 mmmmmmm, Sarah Jessica Parker, she could ride me anytime.

Posted by: Mr Ed at July 06, 2026 01:01 PM (Q+gd/)

273 246 National March on Washington D.C. to remove Trump before the November 2026 midterm election"

Oh good, we can fill the prisons the J6ers left
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 12:57 PM (sgkY

Start writing citations for littering and don't stop until the budget is balanced.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (w/O5Q)

274 Also, I did partake in Corn direct from the Cob this weekend. It was great. Not as good as the Ribeye, though.

Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (5MUB0)

275 Ted Cruz is right most of the time, but he’s hated because he’s usually a temperamental ass about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 12:59 PM (6SRz+)

I've not seen him lose his temper at any time or be an ass. They hate him because he's smarter than the people who hate him.

But if you can point me to some examples I'd gladly admit I'm wrong.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (/WQyy)

276 260 "It's coming out on Fourth of July weekend, and if it in any way spoils a sad octogenarian's weekend, then oh well!" Schaffer added."


Don't think Trump had a sad weekend.. From what I saw it was quite a success...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (FtULh)

277 263 If Shapiro wants to win in the Democrat Party he will need to become muslim.
Posted by: Vengeance

Straddling the line. Backing progressives.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (NFX2v)

278 Reiner was killed by his own leftism. Sure his son is a drug addled psychotic, but I suspect Reiner's worldview and hollywood had a lot to do with it.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (n5tGW)
_______

Yea, and the reports are that Reiner was a real bastard to the son. In fairness, it's not clear whether that was before or after the son became a hopeless junkie lunatic, but still ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (iFTx/)

279 "Formerly-Famous Leftwing Non-Celebrities Spend Entire Fourth of July Weekend Obsessing Over (Get This) Trump"


One photos of Sydney Sweeney enjoying herself a 4th celebration outdoes all the leftist whining by an order of magnitude.

Posted by: Ripley at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (GUOwU)

280 If you can get a girl or young woman at the right time, and brainwash her, she is a true believer for life.


The Paolo knows.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 01:03 PM (MXaEW)

281 I hate corn in almost all of its forms (strange for an Iowan, I know), but everyone around me is eagerly waiting for sweet corn season.

Posted by: pookysgirl does like potatoes at July 06, 2026 01:03 PM (Wt5PA)

282 265. Amateur.
Posted by: zombie John McCain

🤣

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (NFX2v)

283 It would be entertaining to see an AI debate between a Donald Trump avatar and Rob Reiner’s talking head in a jar, but those pansy ass leftists would probably say it’s in bad taste.

Okay if it was a big pickle jar, that would be bad taste.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (6SRz+)

284 Reiner's last laugh was more of a gurgle. Hopefully it's repeated for an eternity in Hell.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (RE++b)

285
I always thought that Molly Ringwald wasn't pretty enough to be the one that all the cute boys wanted to date. They were lying to us.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (yAl+



She was always marketed towards average teen girls, to make them feel like they could nab the varsity quarterback as a husband forever, if they teased that they'd give him a BJ under the bleachers but never deliver, because penis is icky.

The only teen boys who swooned over her were the pimply nerds, chess club stars and non-athletes who tried to catch her on the rebound after she eventually sucked off the quarterback before the QB went back to the cheerleaders.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (fdcCZ)

286 Sarah Jessica Parker, Mark Ruffalo, Molly Ringwald, Sheryl Lee Ralph and Bradley Whitford

Don't confuse Bradley Whitford with Carlton Whitfield

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (RHGPo)

287 Trump really does live rent free inside these people's heads. 24/7/365
Posted by: steevy

Not mine!

Posted by: February 29th at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (kdAiF)

288 “Star of Seabiscuit, Sarah Jessica Parker”

Now that’s some funny $hit.

Comedy gold.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (rg/w7)

289 286 She was always marketed towards average teen girls, to make them feel like they could nab the varsity quarterback as a husband forever, if they teased that they'd give him a BJ under the bleachers but never deliver, because penis is icky.

The only teen boys who swooned over her were the pimply nerds, chess club stars and non-athletes who tried to catch her on the rebound after she eventually sucked off the quarterback before the QB went back to the cheerleaders.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (fdcCZ)

=======

And John Hughes wanted to bang her bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at July 06, 2026 01:05 PM (uO3MK)

290 I always thought that Molly Ringwald wasn't pretty enough to be the one that all the cute boys wanted to date. They were lying to us.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (yAl+



She was always marketed towards average teen girls, to make them feel like they could nab the varsity quarterback as a husband forever, if they teased that they'd give him a BJ under the bleachers but never deliver, because penis is icky.

The only teen boys who swooned over her were the pimply nerds, chess club stars and non-athletes who tried to catch her on the rebound after she eventually sucked off the quarterback before the QB went back to the cheerleaders.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM (fdcCZ)
________

Ringwald herself almost certainly did quite a bit of servicing on casting couches

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:05 PM (iFTx/)

291 everyone around me is eagerly waiting for sweet corn season.
Posted by: pookysgirl does like potatoes at July 06, 2026 01:03 PM (Wt5PA)

Those Ioweegians better be hitting the HyVee for some ribs for next week, too!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 01:05 PM (1Ff7Z)

292 I would argue that Reiner's son got the last laugh.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM

LOL, yes indeed.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 06, 2026 01:05 PM (tM5h4)

293 Seabiscuit is insulted, Ace!

I'd like to see Lisa Rinna or any of the duck faced lip filler women (who probably can't feel their lips at all) eat corn on the cob. I never thought of that before, which is probably good.

Yes, I had corn on the cob and no I don't need lip fillers. My brother mocked me for my big lips when we argued as kids. Little did I know they would be good to have as I age without filler or drawing fake lines around them.

All I know of Lisa Rinna is massive plastic surgery and being in a soap opera or similar.

Quack! How will they age? Will the fillers and fake cheekbones move around like icebergs under their ruined faces? Will they need drool cups?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 06, 2026 01:06 PM (hzuYO)

294 So often the leftists say Donald Trump is unhappy.



PDJT wakes up next to Melania every day.
He is not unhappy.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 01:06 PM (MXaEW)

295 Okay, I'll bite... What are the NEA's grounds for impeachment against Trump ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 01:06 PM (FtULh)

296
Barack Obama produced this POS.

==============

What a high schooler.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:06 PM (mmrXZ)

297 I'd like to see Lisa Rinna or any of the duck faced lip filler women (who probably can't feel their lips at all) eat corn on the cob.


AOC sitting next to a picket fence.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 01:07 PM (MXaEW)

298 Okay, I'll bite... What are the NEA's grounds for impeachment against Trump
==
His breath stinks!

Posted by: Dorcas Blimnline at July 06, 2026 01:07 PM (anL5R)

299 I remember the King of the Hill episode where Dale was testifying in court and asked (by him) about the looks of various movie star women.

Julia Roberts? A horse is a horse is a horse.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:07 PM (/WQyy)

300 I doubt Molly R wrote a book:
https://shorturl.at/ZhOyJ
Ok, that author probably had a lot of help, but still.

I had the book when I was in grade school and the price has gone up a bit. Not nearly enough to wish I'd kept it though.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 01:07 PM (R+iUD)

301 Remember when Kerry Washington, Jennifer Lopez, and Jurnee Smollett served as prominent celebrity surrogates and active supporters for Barack Obama during his campaigns?

They actively rallied voters & championed key administration policies like the Affordable Care Act.

Are they still alive?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 01:08 PM (NFX2v)

302 242> Microsoft is laying off 4,800 employees

That could easily be handled simply by not renewing expiring H1B visas.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 01:08 PM (9s47C)

303 Reiner's son is trying to collect 1.5 million from the Estate to pay his attorneys The courts or the trust shut that down and now he has to have a public defender.
Posted by: polynikes


Did he plead for mercy since he is now an orphan?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 01:08 PM (qgNn3)

304 In short fuck off every single "celebrity" hard like a monkey at the zoo.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 01:09 PM (xvV+O)

305 My thought bubble as i read the post: Who? Who? Who? They're atill alive?

Posted by: LASue at July 06, 2026 01:09 PM (F113k)

306 Will the fillers and fake cheekbones move around like icebergs under their ruined faces? Will they need drool cups?
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 06, 2026 01:06 PM (hzuYO)

Don't ask.

Posted by: Lyn May at July 06, 2026 01:09 PM (1Ff7Z)

307 235 Does Wynona's beaver eat Taco Bell?

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (DCsZP)

https://youtu.be/aYDfwUJzYQg

Posted by: Sea Biscuit at July 06, 2026 01:09 PM (l3cgK)

308 Sheryl Lee Ralph isn't Laura Palmer. She's a black actress and one of the leads on "Abbott Elementary."

Posted by: Ben Boychuk at July 06, 2026 01:09 PM (t5OWA)

309 I always thought that Molly Ringwald wasn't pretty enough to be the one that all the cute boys wanted to date. They were lying to us.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (
________

Those 80s comedies with girls like her were like the modern equivalent of those hallmark romance comedies were the slightly-above average 30-something woman with baggage and emotional problems somehow lands the rich studly dude.

It's wish fulfilment for the ladies. Because of this, the female star can't be so beautiful that normal ladies can't relate. Hence ... Molly Ringwald.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:09 PM (iFTx/)

310 Adam Carolla talks about knowing Molly Ringwald before she became a big teen star. I think he grew up by her house and knew some other family members.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:10 PM (/WQyy)

311 Reiner gets last laugh against Trump
----------------

That is not how death works.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:10 PM (vE0+H)

312 >>> 309 I always thought that Molly Ringwald wasn't pretty enough to be the one that all the cute boys wanted to date. They were lying to us.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 06, 2026 12:24 PM (
________

Those 80s comedies with girls like her were like the modern equivalent of those hallmark romance comedies were the slightly-above average 30-something woman with baggage and emotional problems somehow lands the rich studly dude.

It's wish fulfilment for the ladies. Because of this, the female star can't be so beautiful that normal ladies can't relate. Hence ... Molly Ringwald.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:09 PM (iFTx/)

With this, too, I can help.

Posted by: the Paolo at July 06, 2026 01:10 PM (R+iUD)

313 I dunno. You really have to wonder why people give a shit what any of these idiots say. Do they possess some kind of special insight or proven understanding of anything that makes them worth listening to? Is there anyone who says “oh yeah, Sarah Barking Dogpark was good in that movie, so she must be smart and right about everything. If I ever have brain surgery, I’m gonna ask her about it”.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 06, 2026 01:10 PM (E/qck)

314 Isn’t ringwald a type of rash?

Posted by: Vengeance at July 06, 2026 01:12 PM (E/qck)

315 "He ain't a 'has been.' He's a 'never was.'"

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:12 PM (qFwJc)

316 Elizabeth Shue in The Karate Kid .

She aged pretty well into her adult acting career.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:12 PM (/WQyy)

317 Didn't do much this weekend; had surgery to remove a cyst from my finger on the 25th; found out last week it was cancerous so now i have another surgery this month to go after the cancer in the nail bed...and my finger may be infected from the original procedure. Quoting Roy Kent from Ted Lasso: 'Fuuuuuuuck. (in British)'
Hope y'all are having a better one; on my way to the Doc now to have them take a look at the infection.

Posted by: Nelly at July 06, 2026 01:12 PM (Bm3Co)

318 250 years ago, actors were in the same class as prostitutes.

Don't forget that.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:13 PM (qFwJc)

319 SMOD,
Not surprised. We don't hate the teachers' union enough. I'd say that I'm going to vote against tax millage proposals, but I already vote against them.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 06, 2026 01:13 PM (0Htd1)

320
Harry Hamlin went from Ursula Andress, Laura Johnson and Nicollette Sheridan to duck-face Lisa Rinna. Which just proves that Hamlin's a homo.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 06, 2026 01:13 PM (fdcCZ)

321 Eh, the whole thing is perfect in a way, they get to pretend they are relevant and we get to make fun of them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 01:13 PM (n5tGW)

322 I've not seen him lose his temper at any time or be an ass. They hate him because he's smarter than the people who hate him.

But if you can point me to some examples I'd gladly admit I'm wrong.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:02 PM (/WQyy)

Ted Cruz is not smart. Learned maybe but not smart. Blaming your opponent's voters for being violent lunatics during a Primary in which they were clearly being set up by the other side *and* you are looking for those same people to come vote for you instead is NOT SMART. In fact it's bugfuck stupid and I wouldn't want him representing me as a Walmart Greeter. If you don't want to call it "stupid" that's fine, but it shows his GOPe-style contempt for conservative voters no matter how one slices and dices it.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:13 PM (vE0+H)

323 Posted by: Nelly at July 06, 2026 01:12 PM (Bm3Co)

Will say a prayer for you

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 01:13 PM (FtULh)

324 250 years ago, actors were in the same class as prostitutes.

Don't forget that.
Posted by: no one of any consequence

And the Greeks and Romans before that.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 01:14 PM (wOO3z)

325 240 Who knows? Apparently she has a big, brown beaver.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM

I recall reading somewhere that she's a natural blonde. So...AI?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (bFu5X)


No, cultural reference.

Primus - Wynonna's Big Brown Beaver
https://youtu.be/aYDfwUJzYQg

Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 01:14 PM (Sy6m/)

326 I feel bad for Rob Reiner. Patricide is a very, very bad thing. Maybe Jesus gave him the choice at his particular judgement. Hell? or a very long stint in Purgatory.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:15 PM (qFwJc)

327 I am sorry, Nelly. Prayers up.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2026 01:16 PM (Dd38x)

328 Will say a prayer for you
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 01:13 PM (FtULh)

I appreciate it; i've had skin cancer removed before but wasn't expecting it here.

Posted by: Nelly at July 06, 2026 01:16 PM (Bm3Co)

329 Screw them!!

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at July 06, 2026 01:17 PM (9oXdx)

330 As bad as the acting profession is it's only #3 on my top ten overpaid professions behind news readers and college football coaches.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:17 PM (/WQyy)

331
Ouuccchhh, Nelly! I hope they clear that infection up right away. It sounds painful.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:17 PM (mmrXZ)

332 Related - Today's stupid bumper sticker sign at the market- "Are we GREAT yet? Because I just feel embarrassed." Well, I suppose it's more articulate than " F***k Trump" which I saw last week.

Well, IMO we're greater than we were under Biden and I'm not embarrassed at all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 01:17 PM (6UQAR)

333 " Which just proves that Hamlin's a homo."

Who cares what she looks like if she is french-kissing you while you are boinking, in the dark?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:18 PM (qFwJc)

334
Molly Ringwald


Have you rid yourself of all the money that came your way from making those "likely would not have been made today John Hughes movies" in which you starred, Sweet Cheeks?

If not, what's holding you back, you warrior for All That Is Good and Righteous?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 01:18 PM (s9VOe)

335 Off equine sock...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 01:19 PM (l3cgK)

336 Related - Today's stupid bumper sticker sign at the market- "Are we GREAT yet? Because I just feel embarrassed." Well, I suppose it's more articulate than " F***k Trump" which I saw last week.

Well, IMO we're greater than we were under Biden and I'm not embarrassed at all.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 01:17 PM (6UQAR)

They've never been proud to be an American just like Michelle Obama.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:19 PM (/WQyy)

337 Sorry, Nelly. That sounds...unpleasant.

Grilled corn-on-the-cob is amazing, if done well. I had a couple ears this weekend. 10/10. No notes.

I'm starting to wonder now if the Hollywood crew hates Trump because he's more famous than they are. I'm sure it's a big factor for Obama, who is receding as quickly in the rear view mirror as people can manage it.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 06, 2026 01:20 PM (K40fF)

338 Growing up in the Philly media market, it felt like ground zero for Da Boss. Constipation as a singing style?

I will not be sad when he's finally gone.

Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at July 06, 2026 01:20 PM (Iwv3U)

339 About that black girl in the Patriot Front subway video ..

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
Wait is this the newest Democrat hero with a prior arrest for indecent exposure?!

Who could’ve possibly seen this coming

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 01:20 PM (RHGPo)

340 Hollywood hates Trump because he is the biggest star in the world. They are chumps. They know they are chumps. And they are envious.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:21 PM (qFwJc)

341 Question that is likely to get Willowed: How did Trump make the 250th celebration "political"? I keep hearing that from the MSM and their consumers, but never any specifics. (And no, "simply by being Trump" does not count.)

Posted by: pookysgirl, always curious at July 06, 2026 01:21 PM (Wt5PA)

342 Washington did not suffer fools gladly.
===
His personal secretary said that the most terrifying sound in all the world was the sound of G.W. cursing a blue streak.

Posted by: Triggley Puff

One kind of cute part of "Young Washington" was they showed George taking out his frustrations by chopping on trees. I heard a couple of guffaws in the audience by others who got the joke.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2026 01:22 PM (lJ0H4)

343 Remember when Envy was one of the seven deadly sins? Hollywood turned it into a virtue.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:22 PM (qFwJc)

344 I'm starting to wonder now if the Hollywood crew hates Trump because he's more famous than they are. I'm sure it's a big factor for Obama, who is receding as quickly in the rear view mirror as people can manage it.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 06, 2026 01:20 PM (K40fF)

Interesting observation. Probably right.

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 01:22 PM (GD0B3)

345 I just saw an awesome meme of the ref holding up the red card in front of the American player and the player hold up a card to the ref with Trump's face .

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 01:22 PM (/WQyy)

346 Who knows? Apparently she has a big, brown beaver.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 12:52 PM

I recall reading somewhere that she's a natural blonde. So...AI?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:56 PM (bFu5X)

No, cultural reference.

Primus - Wynonna's Big Brown Beaver
https://youtu.be/aYDfwUJzYQg
Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 01:14 PM (Sy6m/)
_____

Gayest video ever. Well, not ever, but very gay for a rock band.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

347 Sending prayers your way, Nelly.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (NpAcC)

348 One kind of cute part of "Young Washington" was they showed George taking out his frustrations by chopping on trees. I heard a couple of guffaws in the audience by others who got the joke.
---

YW is full of Easter eggs for the America Cinematic Universe.

Revolutionaries! Assemble! Into a Congress!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (K40fF)

349 Apparently, to the Left, loving America is political.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (qFwJc)

350 And no, "simply by being Trump" does not count.)

YESITDOES!!!

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (XuXeR)

351 I really do think they are setting us and the country up for a "man" to come "save" it from nasty MAGA. I expect them to get even more overtly extreme and for the one emerging from the primary to be a willing puppet who "seems" to be above the fray but will do all the commie bidding. Another Obama but white and even more aggressive at times while letting the party apparatus do the dirty work. I don't think for a second it's going to be a woman. AOC is the only one it could be but that's if people were really voting. Since it's all fake and phony, it will be a guy.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (vE0+H)

352
Gayest video ever. Well, not ever, but very gay for a rock band.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Not quite Mick Jagger/David Bowie gay.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 01:24 PM (wOO3z)

353 Much of Hollywood is on the payroll to keep the nation divided and this bullshit going. Do not forget our intelligence agencies are still hard at work on division and pedowood is a big part of it. These people are not lone wolves, they spread known and accepted talking points and do not deviate.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:24 PM (vE0+H)

354 ic Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

Many liberals are announcing they're DONE supporting US Men's Team in the World Cup, instead rooting for Belgium tonight because President Trump vouched to get Balogun unsuspended by FIFA

OK, GTFO, leave America for Belgium! You are MORE than welcome to do so.

We don't need traitors here

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 01:25 PM (NpAcC)

355 Remember when Envy was one of the seven deadly sins? Hollywood turned it into a virtue.

At least it doesn't get a whole month to itself. Yet. Personally I'm stocking up for Wrath Month.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 01:25 PM (/Qfoy)

356 Primus isn't a rock band. They are Primus.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 01:25 PM (DCsZP)

357 And the Greeks and Romans before that.
Old greek homos and gladiator movies.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 06, 2026 01:25 PM (Kt19C)

358
Well, IMO we're greater than we were under Biden and I'm not embarrassed at all.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

===============

For a great man, Obama sure left a fragile legacy. How many of his worshipers are enjoying those utopian lives they expected?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:26 PM (mmrXZ)

359 Prayers up (on a Monday even!) for all that need divine assistance. I am nothing. He is everything. Be humble. Be grateful. Be patient. Be kind. Be generous.

I am grateful to have lived long enough to repent. Such a blessing.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:26 PM (qFwJc)

360
I don't get celebrity adoration.

Trying to figure out what color some actresses beaver is creepy.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 01:26 PM (/QHx4)

361 Personally I'm stocking up for Wrath Month."

*looks at rack of loaded mags. Nods in approval *

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 01:27 PM (XuXeR)

362 Tyranny as they are defining here is:

Enforcing the laws on the books
Not throwing people in jail for saying things you don't like
Not banning people from using these they want like AC or ICE cars
Not requiring people to get the clot shot

and on and on

It is the opposite of tyranny which we had in spades under the Biden junta and you can see right now in Britain.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:27 PM (sKqQm)

363 I would love Wrath Month. That's when we get to kick ass.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:28 PM (qFwJc)

364 OK, GTFO, leave America for Belgium! You are MORE than welcome to do so.

We don't need traitors here

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 01:25 PM (NpAcC)

Hope that they enjoy the waffles!

Posted by: pookysgirl, having a breakfast-style lunch at July 06, 2026 01:28 PM (Wt5PA)

365 Sarah Jessica Parker, Mark Ruffalo, Molly Ringwald, Sheryl Lee Ralph and Bradley Whitford
====

Answer: Alex, who are actors who have not worked in 1,000 years?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 01:28 PM (RIvkX)

366 I'm pretty sure the dems will rig their primary. If they allow their voters to pick, no way is it going to be a hard working steel driving mofo that loves the USA. It's gonna be a pansy assed layabout train riding ho that loves Hamas.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 01:29 PM (n5tGW)

367 So let me get this straight, the entire American left now supports a white ref banning a black man from playing soccer?

Sounds...racist...to me

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:29 PM (sKqQm)

368 ic Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

Many liberals are announcing they're DONE supporting US Men's Team in the World Cup, instead rooting for Belgium tonight because President Trump vouched to get Balogun unsuspended by FIFA

OK, GTFO, leave America for Belgium! You are MORE than welcome to do so.

We don't need traitors here
Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 01:25 PM (NpAcC)
________

The red card was pure corruption by FIFA. They ignored their own clear rules and bent over backward to screw the USA team. The decision was rightly over-turned. Good on Trump if he had anything to do with it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:29 PM (iFTx/)

369 There are a few reasons that might justify a life consumed with deranged hate for someone: a close relative murdered, a horrible injury done to me. It would be personal, but it would also hinder my ability to live life.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 06, 2026 01:29 PM (7cpPc)

370 Not a has-been. a Never-was.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:29 PM (qFwJc)

371 Why do we cafre what these malcontents think? Their opinions and rants are entirely predictable, and tiresome. Let's not waste valuable pixels on them.

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 01:30 PM (ZxPkt)

372
Amen Don

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 01:30 PM (/QHx4)

373
349 Apparently, to the Left, loving America is political.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (qFwJc)

This has always been true, it’s nothing new. I’m glad to see the left admitting openly that they are exactly what I’ve always thought and said that they are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 01:30 PM (6SRz+)

374 Sarah Jessica Parker, Mark Ruffalo

Screw you Mark AND the horse you rode in on

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:30 PM (sKqQm)

375 Those liberals weren't even watching metric kickball anyway. It's all virtue signaling.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (n5tGW)

376
Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:23 PM (vE0+H)

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I agree they're trying to create a savior. A charismatic, demagogic, aspiring tyrant. Those people are winning elections.

I'll go further: I bet one of their strategies -- like Plan C -- is to make Mad-manny eligible for the presidency. Get control of both houses + White House, pack SCOTUS, amend or reinterpret "native born" and Zo's your uncle.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (mmrXZ)

377 Amazing how patriotic the Left gets when they need to win an election. Normally the founders were the biggest pieces of slave-owning racist sexist shit on the planet. Now they had these "incredible ideals" about LOL "self-government".

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (vE0+H)

378 That was unkind. But so funny.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (qFwJc)

379 I will laugh if the US does win the kickball championship when most Americans aren't aware it is being played...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (sKqQm)

380 Those liberals weren't even watching metric kickball anyway. It's all virtue signaling.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (n5tGW)
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They were always rooting against the USA team because they hate the USA and themselves. This just gives them an excuse to more openly hate on the USA team.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

381 Homer was a racist!

Kenyan “Helen of Troy” actress slams Homer for ignoring “female perspective” in the legendary war her character caused

https://tinyurl.com/4zuspsrj

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (ndZc7)

382 50 Went to DC for the spectacle. The fireworks were beyond description. The show on the Washington monument was very well done. The heat was oppressive. The number of patriots walking around made all of it worth it. It was great to see we all exist in the flesh.
Posted by: Rando Calrissian at July 06, 2026 12:21 PM (YcehE)

Spent 2012 in DC for the 4th. Hot as hell but a wonderful, patriotic experience watching the fireworks from the steps of the Lincoln memorial with my daughter.

Especially after we had experienced a bad Derecho in Maryland for lacrosse tournament a few days prior.

Posted by: DitkaCA at July 06, 2026 01:32 PM (utChY)

383 Did Rob Reiner get the last laugh?

He sure did!

He laughed his fucking head off.....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 06, 2026 01:32 PM (wtvvX)

384 Poor Matthew Broderick. He married the filly.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:32 PM (qFwJc)

385 341 Question that is likely to get Willowed: How did Trump make the 250th celebration "political"? I keep hearing that from the MSM and their consumers, but never any specifics. (And no, "simply by being Trump" does not count.)
Posted by: pookysgirl, always curious at July 06, 2026 01:21 PM (Wt5PA)

Pretty sure the five blue states who refused to send a delegation the the national mall state fair made it political.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 06, 2026 01:32 PM (/WHpM)

386 was carrot top there?

Posted by: burp at July 06, 2026 01:32 PM (+yda9)

387 Those liberals weren't even watching metric kickball anyway. It's all virtue signaling."

This. There's vids of interviews on the teams and players... and Karens with blank stares

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 01:33 PM (XuXeR)

388 383 Did Rob Reiner get the last laugh?

He sure did!

He laughed his fucking head off.....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 06, 2026 01:32 PM (wtvvX)

He really blew me away with his portrayal of washington.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 06, 2026 01:33 PM (/WHpM)

389 Question that is likely to get Willowed: How did Trump make the 250th celebration "political"? I keep hearing that from the MSM and their consumers, but never any specifics. (And no, "simply by being Trump" does not count.)
Posted by: pookysgirl, always curious at July 06, 2026 01:21 PM (Wt5PA)

He didn't but if they don't claim he did there is nothing to argue over and they need people to have some nominal standing to argue.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:33 PM (vE0+H)

390
Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (vE0+H)

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Oh, how Michelle Obama lamented the destruction of "societal norms" when Trump announced plans for the ballroom. As if 1 out of 100 Americans would recognize a blueprint of the East Wing if their lives depended on it.

She never cared about societal norms when men were invading girls' locker rooms and gays were getting married (I don't care about gay marriage myself, but there's no denying it's kind of counter to a societal norm!).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:34 PM (mmrXZ)

391 The Left is against making things political now.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 01:34 PM (vE0+H)

392 Homer was a racist!

Kenyan “Helen of Troy” actress slams Homer for ignoring “female perspective” in the legendary war her character caused

https://tinyurl.com/4zuspsrj
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:31 PM (ndZc7)
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It's both hilarious and sad that Leftists insist on applying "modern sensitivities" to stories that were created thousands of years ago by men during a time when a very, very different morality was the standard of the day.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (FZ29D)

393 He didn't but if they don't claim he did there is nothing to argue over and they need people to have some nominal standing to argue.
Posted by: ...

Yep. Constantly stirring the shitpot.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (wOO3z)

394 Did Rob Reiner get the last laugh?

He sure did!

He laughed his fucking head off.....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 06, 2026 01:32 PM (wtvvX)

He really blew me away with his portrayal of washington.


Well his portrayal of Lincoln's last moments were pretty spot on

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (sKqQm)

395 In other shocking news, it’s humid in Florida today…. Sigh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (TCUO6)

396 Mpeachfoddfo!

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (XuXeR)

397 BREAKING: FIFA has REJECTED Belgium's attempt to appeal America's top scorer Flo Balogun's REINSTATEMENT for tonight's game, after the organization overturned his red card

BALOGUN WILL OFFICIALLY PLAY! 🔥

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (GD0B3)

398 288 “Star of Seabiscuit, Sarah Jessica Parker”

Now that’s some funny $hit.

Comedy gold.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 06, 2026 01:04 PM

++++

That's gold, Jerry!
Gold!

Posted by: Banya at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (2Ez/1)

399 Fun fact; 'Born in the USA' was one of the first CDs I bought for my brand-new cutting edge Philips CD player. That was in Reagan's first term, you understand.

It sounded terrible, shrill and tinny. Producers were still sorting out getting CDs to sound less brash, but that one stood out in its suckatude.

TLR: Bruce is old, and his product has ate it for a long, long while.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (Ft5W9)

400 I saw a B2 fly over the Hudson River in the morning on July 4 so I can scratch that off the bucket list. All the aircraft were flying pretty low but the B2 looked a bit smaller than I thought it would. The crowds were cheering and it occurred to me that if we were in Iran, Russia, or China, or any other country that pissed off America, that's a sight that would have everyone shitting their pants. Well, they wouldn't see the bomber at all, it would be flying at a much higher altitude, but still.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 06, 2026 01:36 PM (tM5h4)

401 Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers
Graham Platner has canceled a campaign event for unclear reasons.
The cancellation comes as polls are testing other candidates against Collins, while rumors continue to circulate about a possible new scandal involving Platner.

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Nazi, rape apologist, what now? He doesn't brush after meals?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:36 PM (ndZc7)

402
Question that is likely to get Willowed: How did Trump make the 250th celebration "political"? I keep hearing that from the MSM and their consumers, but never any specifics. (And no, "simply by being Trump" does not count.)
Posted by: pookysgirl

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I'm not sure I heard all his speeches. Did he say anything about the rise of the commies? If Kamala were prez, she would have spent 50% of her time slurring about race and gender.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:36 PM (mmrXZ)

403 The primary movers in the Iliad are ALL female.

Eris, Aphrodite, Athena, and Helen.

Most notable Zeus does his best to not be responsible for any of it...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 01:37 PM (sKqQm)

404 Ask your proctologist if Balogun is right for you.

Posted by: Big Phat Farma at July 06, 2026 01:37 PM (2Ez/1)

405 Belgium isn't really a country, you know.

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 01:37 PM (ZxPkt)

406 @PpollingNumbers
Graham Platner has canceled a campaign event for unclear reasons.
The cancellation comes as polls are testing other candidates against Collins, while rumors continue to circulate about a possible new scandal involving Platner.

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Nazi, rape apologist, what now? He doesn't brush after meals?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:36 PM (ndZc7)

In a few days, they CAN'T replace him, so if they're going to do it, it has to be now.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at July 06, 2026 01:38 PM (xA5g+)

407 "hilarious and sad that Leftists insist on applying "modern sensitivities" to stories that were created thousands of years ago"


"Learn instead what I think that Enicharmon thought Urizen thought Gutch thought Ho-Yung thought Chi-Bo-Sing thought Lafcadio Hearn thought Carlyle thought Mirabeau said about the French Revolution."

The Machine Stops

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 01:38 PM (XuXeR)

408
Maybe it's time for a quiet investigation into Patriot Front.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 06, 2026 01:38 PM (azNOR)

409 Nood!

Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2026 01:38 PM (NcvvS)

410 Corn on the cob IS good! And I've just recently discovered Tajin seasoning on it. Even better!

Posted by: 496 at July 06, 2026 01:39 PM (sOtuf)

411 401 Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers
Graham Platner has canceled a campaign event for unclear reasons.
The cancellation comes as polls are testing other candidates against Collins, while rumors continue to circulate about a possible new scandal involving Platner.

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Nazi, rape apologist, what now? He doesn't brush after meals?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 01:36 PM (ndZ


Prepare the torricelli gambit!


Posted by: Nasty Pelosi at July 06, 2026 01:39 PM (/WHpM)

412
It's both hilarious and sad that Leftists insist on applying "modern sensitivities" to stories that were created thousands of years ago by men during a time when a very, very different morality was the standard of the day.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

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Believe it or not, if you read those poems and plays, the tragedy of those women speaks loud and clear. And there were some outstanding main characters; Antigone and Hecuba come to mind.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 01:39 PM (mmrXZ)

413 Okay, I want to be a little serious here. In Adult Ed, the class was about Charles Carroll of Carrollton. At the age of 11 his father sent him to France to escape harsh anti-Catholic laws of Maryland at the time. During the 17 years, he was educated by the Jesuits (that was back when they were good) He received a "Liberal" Education. What that meant was Greek and Latin. Cicero and Augustine. He was trained to be an Orator. The founders of the Nation were not Texas A and M types. Look him up.

Classics. Except for Trump who had a decent education, our generation of leaders are completely ignorant of the basics of government.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 01:39 PM (qFwJc)

414 403 And don’t forget that Paris chick.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 01:40 PM (77rzZ)

415 Nude gay Maine Nazi

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 01:40 PM (iFTx/)

416 The red card was pure corruption by FIFA.

There is probably no other sport that is so dependent on the officials' discretion. I don't know why they even bother to keep score. Just kick the ball around for an hour and then let a panel of judges decide who won.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 01:40 PM (AjXMt)

417 Maybe Balogun will get a hat trick tonight. Heh. The screeching and bitching would be epic.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 01:40 PM (wOO3z)

418 338 Growing up in the Philly media market, it felt like ground zero for Da Boss. Constipation as a singing style?

I will not be sad when he's finally gone.

Posted by: nooneyouknowyouknow at July 06, 2026 01:20 PM (Iwv3U)


Yep yep. You could count on having a "Block of the Boss" every other hour on MMR it seemed. I still enjoy a few of his tunes from his first three LPs, but the rest can go jump in The River (SWIDT?)

Posted by: goozer at July 06, 2026 01:42 PM (eTh1u)

419 It sounded terrible, shrill and tinny. Producers were still sorting out getting CDs to sound less brash, but that one stood out in its suckatude.

It annoys me that once everyone had solved that once and for all (there were a lot of amazing sounding CDs in the 1990-1995 period - Foo Fighters' The Colour and the Shape and Filter's Short Bus were two standouts), the Volume Wars happened and they made everything sound deliberately like shit.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 01:42 PM (2ocoG)

420
It's both hilarious and sad that Leftists insist on applying "modern sensitivities" to stories that were created thousands of years ago by men during a time when a very, very different morality was the standard of the day.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 01:35 PM (FZ29D)



One of the latest stories that the commie cocksuckers are trying to push is some dumbass feminist cacademic claiming that her latest research proves that Shakespeare was actually a black woman.

https://tinyurl.com/3duzaf43

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 06, 2026 01:50 PM (fdcCZ)

421 At the age of 11 his father sent him to France to escape harsh anti-Catholic laws of Maryland at the time.

I thought Maryland was founded to be the Roman Catholic colony: Mary-land. Why anti-Catholic laws?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 01:58 PM (qgNn3)

422 I'm guessing "MOR" is moron oriented rock?

Or is it a typo. Often hard to tell.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at July 06, 2026 02:01 PM (pTHGc)

THE MORNING RANT: Ford Rehires Engineers, Blames AI (not Its EVs Debacle) for Having Dismissed Them in the First Place

Ford Logo.jpg

There was some great news last week when Ford announced that it was re-hiring hundreds of engineers who were let go a few years back. Those engineers had been dismissed from their jobs for two reasons:

1) To free up cash for Ford’s ill-fated “electric vehicle transition.”

2) Ford thought it wouldn’t need them any longer. The childishly “green” great-grandson of Henry Ford, Bill Ford, along with Bill’s pet CEO, Jim Farley, didn’t think they’d need engineers whose area of expertise was gas-powered, internal combustion (“ICE” ) vehicles. In obedience to Bill Ford’s climate religion, Farley had committed the company to pursuing an all-EV future. He didn’t see the need to further develop ICE vehicles, nor to employ the engineers who could do so.

The EV transition has been a catastrophic failure, costing Ford more than $35 billion before the company finally canceled its flagship electric vehicle, the Ford F150 Conflagration Lightning.

As I documented several years ago, ”Ford is terminating valuable engineers and other personnel involved in traditional internal combustion car manufacturing, all in an effort to free up money for its cash-sucking EV boondoggle.”

Ford was unambiguous that the reason it was gutting its corps of ICE employees was to fund its EV future, as documented by Bloomberg in this piece from 2022 titled “Ford Plans Up to 8,000 Job Cuts to Help Fund EV Investment.”

The good news is that even though Bill Ford is a naïve nepot who fell under the spell of the climate doom cult, Ford’s customers and dealers are considerably smarter. Despite the massive losses Ford took trying to get consumers to take delivery of its EV offerings, there is virtually no price that could move the needle and make Ford’s EVs anything more than a low-volume gimmick. For Ford to survive, it had to turn its focus back to products that Americans will buy in mass-market volume.

It’s funny that Ford is blaming a failed reliance on artificial intelligence for the need to re-hire engineers, rather than blaming its commitment to EVs. Perhaps Farley and Ford feel that it is politically safer to blame AI than to blame their EV debacle.

“Ford Rehires Experienced Engineers after AI Misses the Mark” [NY Post – 6/29/2026]

Ford has rehired experienced human engineers to help address the shortcomings of artificial intelligence (AI) tools meant to tackle quality issues in the automaker’s production processes.

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“Over prior years, we didn’t pay as much attention as we should have to the experience of our most knowledgeable engineers that have been with us through many product cycles…”

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“Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that would produce a high quality product…”

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[Ford’s VP of Vehicle Hardware Engineering] also noted that the AI tools lacked the training and expertise that veteran technicians have, and many of the company’s veteran technicians left Ford before their knowledge could be used to improve the performance of the AI tools.

The “EV transition” failed, and the American auto industry is now de-transitioning back to a focus on manufacturing (gasoline-powered) vehicles which Americans are willing to buy.

But for old times’ sake, here is an update on Ford’s misguided efforts to become an EV manufacturer. The sales report is out for last month (June 2026). It’s awful:

• Ford sold only 2,322 EVs, which represented just 1.3% of its total US vehicle sales.

• Those 2,322 EVs included discontinued F150 Lightnings, which Ford is practically giving away to make them go away. I’d call it a “fire sale,” but that seems a little insensitive considering the Lightning’s propensity to spontaneously erupt into flames.

• The 1,715 Mustang Mach-Es that we were sold represented a 32% decline from June 2025’s already abysmal numbers.

The next big milestone for Ford’s EV de-transition is for it to formally announce that manufacture of the Mustang Mach E is being terminated.

The many descendants of Henry Ford still hold a controlling interest in Ford stock. A Ford-family revolt against the destruction wrought by Bill Ford would also be in order.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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1 Rant on, MacDuff!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 06, 2026 11:00 AM (/HDaX)

2 Commenting present

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 11:00 AM (sgkY8)

3 First?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (sKqQm)

4 Tnen again
As a Ford truck owner for 35 years, probably last one I will have

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (sgkY8)

5 How is Ford's CEO keeping his job. The imbecile has lost over $30 billion. Yet he is still making hundreds of millions and has his job but is fucking the company up.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (xvV+O)

6 NOODED.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (/HDaX)

7 I've always bought American cars. I suspect my next will be Japanese...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (sKqQm)

8 It's Electric!

Do do-do-do doot-doot

Posted by: The Electric Slide at July 06, 2026 11:03 AM (HnUDF)

9 8 It's Electric!

Do do-do-do doot-doot
Posted by: The Electric Slide at July 06, 2026 11:03 AM (HnUDF)

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That's what the colored girls say.

Posted by: Lou Reed at July 06, 2026 11:04 AM (PiwSw)

10 How is Ford's CEO keeping his job. The imbecile has lost over $30 billion. Yet he is still making hundreds of millions and has his job but is fucking the company up.

One big problem with modern corporate governance is there really isn't someone actively protecting the stock holders from bad execs.

The old model where one person/family owned the company gave an obvious system to regulate this - make bad decisions and you cost yourself money now though CEOs can make objectively bad decisions and still get $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:04 AM (sKqQm)

11 and many of the company’s veteran technicians left Ford before their knowledge could be used to improve the performance of the AI tools.

So, the techs failed to position their successor AI's for success.

Fire them again!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 06, 2026 11:04 AM (/HDaX)

12 Ford has a worser idea.

Posted by: And it's made from Lithium ions at July 06, 2026 11:05 AM (2Ez/1)

13 That's what the colored girls say.
___

They say doo de-doo de-doo

Totally different

Posted by: The Electric Slide at July 06, 2026 11:05 AM (HnUDF)

14 5 How is Ford's CEO keeping his job. The imbecile has lost over $30 billion. Yet he is still making hundreds of millions and has his job but is fucking the company up.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (xvV+O)

Shareholder oversight of public companies is often minimal, absent an activist investor. Positions in companies are turned over regularly and a lot of ownership is held in index funds.

Conversely this does make it easy to change the direction of a company with 5-10% ownership.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 06, 2026 11:06 AM (okun6)

15 5 How is Ford's CEO keeping his job. The imbecile has lost over $30 billion. Yet he is still making hundreds of millions and has his job but is fucking the company up.
Posted by: Jukin
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Ford is controlled by a special stock class that the Ford heirs dominate. So if the Ford heirs want Farley to stay, he stays. If they wanted Lee Iacocca out despite his auto savvy and profits, then Iacocca goes.

A few other corporations are set up that way by families--the investors get more of the profits but control stays with the other stock class.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:06 AM (E4rtv)

16 There is only room for one EV company unless another can find a battery break through. Trying to join a limited market without having something better than the current market leader is a recipe for failure.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:07 AM (/WQyy)

17 The old model where one person/family owned the company gave an obvious system to regulate this - make bad decisions and you cost yourself money now though CEOs can make objectively bad decisions and still get $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:04 AM (sKqQm)
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A large share of the blame goes to 401Ks run by Vanguard, State Street, Black Rock that use other people's money to force their ideas on companies/corps.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:07 AM (xvV+O)

18 "Ford is owned by a diverse group of shareholders but largely controlled by the Ford family. This is made possible through Ford's dual-class stock structure that concentrates voting rights in Class B shares. The Class B shares account for 2% of the company but collectively hold 40% of the voting power. These are owned by the Ford family, while the public owns Ford's common shares."

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:07 AM (E4rtv)

19 My company has done that once or twice over the years in regards to IT.

Always cost them 2x to hire them back.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 11:07 AM (MXaEW)

20 Is Ford the least worst US car manufacturer?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 06, 2026 11:07 AM (HnUDF)

21 15 5 How is Ford's CEO keeping his job. The imbecile has lost over $30 billion. Yet he is still making hundreds of millions and has his job but is fucking the company up.
Posted by: Jukin
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Ford is controlled by a special stock class that the Ford heirs dominate. So if the Ford heirs want Farley to stay, he stays. If they wanted Lee Iacocca out despite his auto savvy and profits, then Iacocca goes.

A few other corporations are set up that way by families--the investors get more of the profits but control stays with the other stock class.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:06 AM (E4rtv)

Looks like the Ford family holds about 40% of the voting power. Nearly all of the rest is in funds.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 06, 2026 11:08 AM (okun6)

22 When the EV debacle began, I believe everyone with any sense knew that Ford and the other car companies would either have to reverse course at huge expense, or disappear. Amazing it’s taken them so long to figure it out.
I believe their only true plan was “we can do whatever we want, and the Feds will subsidize us out of any trouble.”
Bad bet, fools, bad bet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:08 AM (6SRz+)

23 Don't question. Buy more product. Then get excited to buy more product!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 06, 2026 11:08 AM (wBaIH)

24 At FORD, LOSING MONEY IS JOB NUMBER 1!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:08 AM (xvV+O)

25 I thought the Electric Company ended back in the 70s.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 06, 2026 11:09 AM (mseD3)

26 A large share of the blame goes to 401Ks run by Vanguard, State Street, Black Rock that use other people's money to force their ideas on companies/corps.
Posted by: Jukin

True enough. But large banks are also involved. Globaloney crap and Glass-Stegall needs to be recreated. Time to force those giant monster mega banks to divest and pick whether they want to do investment and large commercial banking or to service US consumers and small business.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:10 AM (E4rtv)

27 A large share of the blame goes to 401Ks run by Vanguard, State Street, Black Rock that use other people's money to force their ideas on companies/corps.

I've been arguing for a while one change that could have a major impact here is to allow the owners of those funds to vote their shares even if they hold them through a holding company.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

28 Tau-rus, for us!

Posted by: I've got nothing at July 06, 2026 11:10 AM (pBJ6M)

29 I suspect the Ford EV thing ultimately failed because they were depending on the government restricting ICE cars.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:11 AM (sKqQm)

30 5 How is Ford's CEO keeping his job. The imbecile has lost over $30 billion.
+++++

It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 06, 2026 11:11 AM (2Ez/1)

31 Looks like the Ford family holds about 40% of the voting power. Nearly all of the rest is in funds.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

In practical terms, 40 percent is enough to control the corporation as the Ford Foundation still owns a chunk and the Ford family still has some sway there as well.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:11 AM (E4rtv)

32 I knew I should have bought a Ferrari. Ugly factories building ugly cars.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 06, 2026 11:11 AM (wBaIH)

33 27 "A large share of the blame goes to 401Ks run by Vanguard, State Street, Black Rock that use other people's money to force their ideas on companies/corps."

I've been arguing for a while one change that could have a major impact here is to allow the owners of those funds to vote their shares even if they hold them through a holding company.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

They've been rolling out voting programs to set that up. In general it'll still be a case of people not paying much attention and management getting whatever it puts forward though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 06, 2026 11:12 AM (okun6)

34 "Our most important assets leave the building every evening."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 11:13 AM (qFwJc)

35 There is only room for one EV company unless another can find a battery break through. Trying to join a limited market without having something better than the current market leader is a recipe for failure.
Posted by: polynikes


We can start a battery company to sell to Tesla. We could call it Solyndra.

Wait.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 11:13 AM (MXaEW)

36 On the surface this looks like bad management.

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 11:13 AM (+aHie)

37 I've been arguing for a while one change that could have a major impact here is to allow the owners of those funds to vote their shares even if they hold them through a holding company.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)
---

Agree 100%!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:13 AM (xvV+O)

38 I've owned a vehicle from each of the big three and their subsidiaries. I've been fortunate that none of the cars/trucks were lemons.

I've also owned cars from the Japanese big three.
One of the Mazdas was a lemon.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:13 AM (/WQyy)

39 They've been rolling out voting programs to set that up. In general it'll still be a case of people not paying much attention and management getting whatever it puts forward though.

I bought a few shares of amazon and I see I can now vote against a list of leftwing assholes not that I suspect it will do anything...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:14 AM (sKqQm)

40 I've been arguing for a while one change that could have a major impact here is to allow the owners of those funds to vote their shares even if they hold them through a holding company.

Posted by: 18-1

Logistical nightmare because of fractional ownership. Easier just to ban the big investment firms from voting at all which introduces its own set of distortions. Realistically, those big three should be broken up themselves as they serve no purpose anymore given market index funds are easy for even small firms to do nowadays.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:14 AM (E4rtv)

41 I suspect the Ford EV thing ultimately failed because they were depending on the government restricting ICE cars.

In fairness to them, that's exactly what the government said it would do and was trying to do.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:14 AM (vTZFs)

42 I mean, if you can't trust the government, who can you trust?

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:15 AM (vTZFs)

43 22 When the EV debacle began, I believe everyone with any sense knew that Ford and the other car companies would either have to reverse course at huge expense, or disappear. Amazing it’s taken them so long to figure it out.
I believe their only true plan was “we can do whatever we want, and the Feds will subsidize us out of any trouble.”
Bad bet, fools, bad bet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:08 AM (6SRz+)

Force the consumer to buy a new(or greatly modified) product line is a popular but usually unsuccessful strategy.

Experimentation is one thing, but killing off a big good or service and trying to shunt all those customers to the new one is incredibly risky.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 06, 2026 11:15 AM (okun6)

44 IN A YUGO!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqTKZgEW8pM

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:16 AM (xvV+O)

45 "You are the company, and it's most important asset."
---
Until you're not.

Posted by: Phoney baloney plastic banana slogan from HR at July 06, 2026 11:16 AM (2Ez/1)

46 Logistical nightmare because of fractional ownership/i]

Does that really matter though?

If Joe Smith has 2.42 shares of Walmart because he has them through an index fund or something why does that matter?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:16 AM (sKqQm)

47 41 I suspect the Ford EV thing ultimately failed because they were depending on the government restricting ICE cars.

In fairness to them, that's exactly what the government said it would do and was trying to do.
Posted by: Oddbob
=====
Yep.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:16 AM (E4rtv)

48 I took a long road trip recently.

Burned through a few tanks of gas. Each time it was 5m to fill up the car and then go on.

Imagine trying that in an EV?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:17 AM (sKqQm)

49 Every time this topic comes up, I can’t help but think of the sad case of Jaguar, which has been almost completely shut down for about a year now. The company keeps claiming that they are coming back with a new high end model, and recently came out with a prototype. It did indeed look impressive; but it’s all electric and will cost at least $250k, maybe more.

Can a company stay alive by selling maybe 60 or 70 cars per Year, total?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:18 AM (6SRz+)

50 This won't be the first time Ford has terminated their electric vehicle production. Henry Ford and Thomas Edison were in the process of setting the industry and its investors on their respective ears when they suddenly went quiet and walked away in 1914. But that's all different now and we don't need to know about all that.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 06, 2026 11:18 AM (zdLoL)

51 Perhaps Farley and Ford feel that it is politically safer to blame AI than to blame their EV debacle.

The nepots are never the equal of the founder. If I owned Ford stock, I'd demand that they fire both of these fools and find someone who actually knows what he's doing.

I'd also be wary of the engineers I could entice to return. If they were any good, they'd already be working at another auto company and would tell Ford to KMA.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:18 AM (Riz8t)

52 IN A YUGO!!


I'll take "What is less than stellar sex" for $200, Alex.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 11:18 AM (MXaEW)

53 Had a Hyundai rental, was nice, certainly if looking for another vehicle would take a look at one

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 11:19 AM (sgkY8)

54 It's a bit amusing to see Ford blame AI, and electricity hogging venture, as the reason for their EV demise and tanking stock price.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (jehhT)

55 Logistical nightmare because of fractional ownership.

There have been some baby steps toward that. Over the last year or two there’s been a move to allowing the fund owners to choose which group will vote for them rather than it just being, say, Vanguard.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (kYmoU)

56
I bought a rolling (sometimes) firebomb.

I'm saving the world!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (xvV+O)

57
There is only room for one EV company unless another can find a battery break through.

It's just around the corner. Around the corner.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (Cqx++)

58 Thx Buck.
Bill Ford is a vegan. Maybe a vegan should never run a car company. Car companies should be run by meat eaters

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (G15zZ)

59 I'd also be wary of the engineers I could entice to return. If they were any good, they'd already be working at another auto company and would tell Ford to KMA.

That assumes that the rest of the industry wasn't following the same playbook as Ford. All of them were to greater or lesser extent.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (vTZFs)

60 Best car i had, despite a couple of annoying flaws, was my '96 Saturn SL2.

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (DZ9Lv)

61 In fairness to them, that's exactly what the government said it would do and was trying to do.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:14 AM (vTZFs)

And the lesson to the wise is: even when you think the government is on your side, always bet on them lying to you.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (6SRz+)

62 IN A YUGO!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqTKZgEW8pM
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:16 AM


Obligatory:

Joe Friday: After losing the two previous vehicles we had been issued, the only car the department was willing to release to us at this point was an unmarked 1987 Yugo, a Yugoslavian import donated to the department as a test vehicle by the government of that country and reflecting the cutting edge of Serbo-Croatian technology.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 11:20 AM (bFu5X)

63 Can a company stay alive by selling maybe 60 or 70 cars per Year, total?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:18 AM
#####

Is this about us?

Posted by: Fisker, Aptera, Polestar and Rivian at July 06, 2026 11:21 AM (2Ez/1)

64 If Joe Smith has 2.42 shares of Walmart because he has them through an index fund or something why does that matter?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:16 AM (sKqQm)

Because he'll tell two friends with shares, and they'll tell two friends, and so on and so on and so on....

Posted by: Faberge Index Fund at July 06, 2026 11:21 AM (1Ff7Z)

65 Ford thought it wouldn’t need them any longer"

No offense, but you misspelled "was going to make bank on taxpayer cash"

This is the inEVitable result of the guv spending more than the combined value of US automakers on 'electrifying...

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 11:21 AM (XuXeR)

66 I took a long road trip recently.

Burned through a few tanks of gas. Each time it was 5m to fill up the car and then go on.

Imagine trying that in an EV?
Posted by: 18-1


Not quite as slow as a Conestoga wagon...

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 11:21 AM (MXaEW)

67 41 I suspect the Ford EV thing ultimately failed because they were depending on the government restricting ICE cars.

In fairness to them, that's exactly what the government said it would do and was trying to do.


And it would have worked if not for those annoying Trump-supporting, ICE-driving voters!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

68 47 41 I suspect the Ford EV thing ultimately failed because they were depending on the government restricting ICE cars.

In fairness to them, that's exactly what the government said it would do and was trying to do.
Posted by: Oddbob
=====
Yep.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:16 AM (E4rtv)

Any company that
1) Been in business for 10+ years
2) and suckles on the government tit

knows that political winds shift with each election. Our automobile manufacturers hung their hat on Democratic leader promises, ignored their customers and are suffering extreme financial losses. Stupid is as stupid does, I guess.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:21 AM (N39Ws)

69 If Joe Smith has 2.42 shares of Walmart because he has them through an index fund or something why does that matter?
Posted by: 18-1

Because index funds are buying and selling component companies every second so determining just how many shares Joe Smith 'owns' becomes extremely difficult as to timing and as to determining the exact number of fractional shares he owns at that particular moment used to measure 'ownership' for voting purposes.

You don't have that problem with individual ownership of stock. Indexes are derivatives of the original stock certificate owners and then you have the secondary derivatives that are basically bets on the direction of the primaries and required to have some interest to do so--VIX, etc.

Like gambling, the major investment companies live and die by arbitrage (the house take) and to do that well, require enormous sums of other people's money to get that consistent small profit to be amplified into billions.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:22 AM (E4rtv)

70 Like Hollywood, even when they see that conservative American loving based movies make a ton of money they continue to make the money losing lefty American hating movies.

You can predict what the left minded person will do but you can never explain it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (/WQyy)

71 And it would have worked if not for those annoying Trump-supporting, ICE-driving voters!

And their dog!

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (vTZFs)

72 One of Ford's unforgivable sins was perverting the Mustang brand. Making a 4 door version of it, making an EV branded one. Harkens back to when Ford came out with the Probe which was to replace the aging Mustang. Anybody see any Ford Probes around?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (N39Ws)

73 Ford thought it wouldn’t need them any longer"

No offense, but you misspelled "was going to make bank on taxpayer cash


This.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

74 EVs such a great idea that they have to be government mandated!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (xvV+O)

75 I cannot believe the Warriors drafted Joe Smith with the #1 pick in 1995.

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 06, 2026 11:24 AM (DZ9Lv)

76 >>>>I've always bought American cars. I suspect my next will be Japanese...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (sKqQm)
*****
Same here. I've always bought American cars but my latest purchase, a GMC (aka, Get More Cash) has cured me of that. No more.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 06, 2026 11:25 AM (0prF9)

77 Everyone in NYC who has an EV should plug it in at the same time during the next heat wave.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:25 AM (N39Ws)

78 Because index funds are buying and selling component companies every second so determining just how many shares Joe Smith 'owns' becomes extremely difficult

But we already do that for earnings/taxes.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:25 AM (sKqQm)

79 How’s that Elon fella doing with his electric cars?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 06, 2026 11:26 AM (UWN7z)

80 knows that political winds shift with each election. Our automobile manufacturers hung their hat on Democratic leader promises, ignored their customers and are suffering extreme financial losses. Stupid is as stupid does, I guess.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

It wasn't only Democrats handing out taxpayer goodies but a lot of Red State governors, mayors, and counties dishing out massive subsidies for factories, etc.

And the whole regress goes to our rotten virulent ruling class of oligarchs that figured out the peasants needed their energy consumption controlled and depopulation so the elite could live in a world with 1/10th of its current population. Worldwide political phenomenon except for Trump in 2016 beginning to take on the global fake crisis of CO2 emissions head on.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:26 AM (E4rtv)

81 CEOs and other company Ivy League officers are like Pro Sports scouts. They have a formula and they won't deviate from it even in the face of passed failures using that formula.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:26 AM (/WQyy)

82 The nudge, then push to EV's was going to be followed up with a mandate. EV's shortcomings; range, lack of charging facilities and varied supply were the exact things the government, the leftists in government wanted.

Because a mobile society is difficult to subjugate.

I don't think we've seen the last of this op.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 11:27 AM (jehhT)

83 I've always bought American cars. I suspect my next will be Japanese...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (sKqQm)

Just bought Mrs OCiS a new Subaru. Laugh if you want, but they are one of the only vehicles out there that still has a decent sized 4 cylinder that is naturally aspirated. I refused to buy a SUV sized vehicle with an engine smaller than my motorcycle. And I am not convinced turbochargers can last the long haul before one of the turbine fins breaks free and ends up in a cylinder.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:27 AM (N39Ws)

84 It did indeed look impressive; but it’s all electric and will cost at least $250k, maybe more.

It was a disappointment to see the Jaguar sedans disappear; when I bought my last car in 2010, the choice came down to the XJ-8 (as I recall) and what I actually bought, a Town Car. The Ford-based Jaguar drove like a dream, was a beautiful car for long trips. But I was in the market for a used car, not a new car, and it seemed like there just weren’t that many on the market. Then Ford sold Jaguar and I wasn’t sure how that would affect parts availability over the long term. (I’m still driving that Town Car, and parts don’t seem to be a problem on the rare occasions I need something—I may well find out again this week.)

That said Jaguar is at the bottom level of the kind of brand that could actually work on the EV model. Status symbols, short trips, meant to be driven for the sake of driving them rather than, say, to go grocery shopping or get from A to B; and not meant as workhorses because of that.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2026 11:27 AM (kYmoU)

85 From the Tech Thread:

14 I have been gifted a half eaten mouse and cat puke
Posted by: The Ballots at July 06, 2026 04:51 AM (LOZbR)

15 Which half?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 06, 2026 04:54 AM (BLOW1)

19 It was the back half. Translated from "cat speak" I'm worth about as much as a mouse butt
Posted by: The Ballots at July 06, 2026 04:57 AM (LOZbR)

Consider the alternatives.

Death of a Mouse: A few minutes of cleaning up a mess.

Death of a Salesman: A few hours of (spoiler alert!) a loser losing, realizing what he is, and killing himself.

It's a tough question, I might prefer the play.

Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 11:27 AM (Sy6m/)

86 So does the Mustang Mach E now take my place as the worst automobile name from Ford? Hell I was dead already when those pieces of crap Edsels rolled off the assembly line.

Oh, and fuck Bill Ford. He is an asshole.

Posted by: Zombie Edsel Ford at July 06, 2026 11:28 AM (og9zY)

87 There is a specific use case for EVs. They live at a fixed base, drive a semi-known distance each use, and return to the base after each drive. It's been proven a million times over, and they beat the IC version by a country mile.

Golf carts.

The rest of them can go screw.

Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 11:28 AM (oqH4h)

88 Any company that
1) Been in business for 10+ years
2) and suckles on the government tit

knows that political winds shift with each election.


Obama started it, Trump I didn't rein it in, Shi... Biden ramped it up, and the "smart money" fully expected Kokonut Kamalalalala to win in '24. Past performance doesn't guarantee of future returns, but it's the way to bet. We have to admit that Trump II was a black swan and work like hell for the next one.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:29 AM (vTZFs)

89 Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:26 AM (E4rtv)

I don't have a problem with tax incentives to get corporations to move to a state. I do think though they need to consider the industry/marketplace of those corporations. But I don't hold them to the same standard as the corporation regard to the marketplace due diligence .

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:30 AM (/WQyy)

90
Bill is William Clay Ford’s boy.

WCF was universally recognized as the biggest drunken idiot in the world for a long time.

His success story was the Detroit Lions .

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:30 AM (kCkdZ)

91 Speaking of F150 Conflagrations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh_NejeM86A

F150 "Lightning" goes into thermal runaway, catches on fire while in the dealer service bay. Causing explosions of things like airbags.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 06, 2026 11:30 AM (WYStd)

92 I've always bought American cars. I suspect my next will be Japanese...

My last 3 cars were Ford/Mercury, and they all expired at a little over 100k miles, even though I get the scheduled maintenance. Even when they were "running", they were inferior.

A little Ford anecdote: the sunglasses holder above the center console would pop open every time I hit a bump, and dumped my sunglasses onto my lap or under the seat. I had to live with that for 11 years. It's a simple thing, but if you can't get the simple things right, what chance do you have of getting the complex ones right?

My new car is a Honda Passport, and I love it. The sunglasses stay put.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

93 Full
Of
Retarded
Dumbasses

Posted by: It's a brand new acronym! at July 06, 2026 11:31 AM (TbWk/)

94 Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 11:28 AM (oqH4h)

I think EV motorcycles have a chance.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:31 AM (/WQyy)

95 Unpossible! AI is the best thing ever and anyone who questions any of it is a CHYnk agent.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 11:31 AM (R+iUD)

96 Just bought Mrs OCiS a new Subaru. Laugh if you want, but they are one of the only vehicles out there that still has a decent sized 4 cylinder that is naturally aspirated. I refused to buy a SUV sized vehicle with an engine smaller than my motorcycle. And I am not convinced turbochargers can last the long haul before one of the turbine fins breaks free and ends up in a cylinder.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:27 AM (N39Ws)

My last 2 cars bought were Subarus...best value car going (Kia is a runner up)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 11:32 AM (tOcjL)

97 ICE cars also have a problem with cold weather.

So for retirement communities in the south, or perhaps even hive cities there maybe they make sense. I supposed you could pare them with solar power in AZ and the like.

But for most of the country and the people in it they are a terrible idea.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:33 AM (sKqQm)

98 Golf carts.
The rest of them can go screw.
Posted by: ballistic

Tee-hee!

Posted by: Speed Restrictors at July 06, 2026 11:33 AM (onZb0)

99 Family fortunes lead eventually to weak minded idiots who are prone to catastrophically stupid decisions which effect far more people than the average idiot's stupid decisions.

It was ever thus.

Posted by: I mean look at European Aristocracy at July 06, 2026 11:33 AM (anL5R)

100
The Flex was a great design, affordable, reliable, great highway ride.

Just wasn’t sexy.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (kCkdZ)

101 There’s has to be a market where someone sells basic vehicles without all the bells and whistles. Something like late 80s/early 90s features. Most importantly, with no modem nor kill switches.

Posted by: Cray Cray at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (Qjj21)

102 79 How’s that Elon fella doing with his electric cars?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 06, 2026 11:26 AM (UWN7z)

Not great actually.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (WYStd)

103 Seriously, now Belgium is bitching because they don't get the benefit of a stupid and improperly executed red card.

Stupid European Bitch Factories. Europe's main export - complaining.

Posted by: OMG the Complaining at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (anL5R)

104 So checking leftwing forums their big item today seems to be they've decided Taylor Swift is a NAZI.

Why?

Adam Sandler conducted her marriage ceremony.

Why does that make her a NAZI? He's Jewish and not one of those Jewish people whose career is around hating Israel.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)

105 Tee-hee!
Posted by: Speed Restrictors at July 06, 2026 11:33 AM (onZb0)
------

Not my fault there are people that can't handle light beer

Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (oqH4h)

106 Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (kCkdZ)

I too liked the Flex styling .

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (/WQyy)

107 Family fortunes lead eventually to weak minded idiots who are prone to catastrophically stupid decisions which effect far more people than the average idiot's stupid decisions.

It was ever thus.


Perhaps it's because a rich heir attracts stupid, hot women who are willing to sell their bodies for all that cash, and that's wher the next generation arises. Genetics always wins.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:36 AM (Riz8t)

108 Speaking of F150 Conflagrations:

I would’ve liked more video and less talking head, but the guy does sound interesting.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2026 11:36 AM (kYmoU)

109 What would certainly be interesting is what kind of engineers were hired back, in what specialties.

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 11:36 AM (GD0B3)

110 There’s has to be a market where someone sells basic vehicles without all the bells and whistles. Something like late 80s/early 90s features. Most importantly, with no modem nor kill switches.

Two modern features I like: backup camera (the number of times people will walk behind you car as you are backing up is amazing) and then the detector that lets you know if someone is in your blind spot when you go to change lanes

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:36 AM (sKqQm)

111 My newest Ford is a 2018 F150 with 65K on the odometer. I bought it used during the snowmagden. I wouldn't want anything newer.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2026 11:37 AM (LHPAg)

112 "Post
user avatar
RazörFist
@RazorFist

Yes it was.
Charlottesville was organized by paid informants for SPLC. Every organization directly involved were therefore tainted by SPLC funding.

American Vanguard was one of those groups.

After Charlottesvile, they changed their name.
To Patriot Front."

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 11:37 AM (tOcjL)

113 My golf cart goes 25mph. That's way too fast but I could flip a switch and restrict it to 14mph. Will never do it though😀.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:37 AM (/WQyy)

114 101 There’s has to be a market where someone sells basic vehicles without all the bells and whistles. Something like late 80s/early 90s features. Most importantly, with no modem nor kill switches.
Posted by: Cray Cray at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (Qjj21)

Bunches of them sold in places like India, China, and Indonesia. US Car companies in combination with regulators worked the rules so that it's illegal to bring any of them into the US for sale.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:37 AM (edUvp)

115 95 Unpossible! AI is the best thing ever and anyone who questions any of it is a CHYnk agent.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 11:31 AM (R+iUD)

CHYnk Uighur or the other one?

Posted by: Turks. Perfidious and greasy. at July 06, 2026 11:37 AM (TbWk/)

116 I have a 2007 Toyota Sienna that I love, love, love. Solid performer. comfortable ride. I bought a RAV4 four and a half years ago. Bouncy ride. But it is solid too.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 11:38 AM (qFwJc)

117 Yes it was.
Charlottesville was organized by paid informants for SPLC. Every organization directly involved were therefore tainted by SPLC funding.

American Vanguard was one of those groups.

After Charlottesvile, they changed their name.
To Patriot Front."

==

We should use the same tactics to take down the Commies and the Socialists!

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 11:38 AM (GD0B3)

118 103 Seriously, now Belgium is bitching because they don't get the benefit of a stupid and improperly executed red card.

Stupid European Bitch Factories. Europe's main export - complaining.
Posted by: OMG the Complaining at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (anL5R)
-

As a person who has been following soccer for about three weeks, the Balogun red card was horseshit from the get-go.

From what I've seen, the US threatened to take FIFA to Arbitration Court over it, and FIFA rescinded the suspension so they didn't have to expose their retarded-ass appeals process in court.

Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 11:38 AM (oqH4h)

119 I bet I'd sell pretty well.

Posted by: Toyota Hilux at July 06, 2026 11:39 AM (DCsZP)

120
The Flex was the last vehicle P.J. O’Roarke wrote a review of for Road & Track, he loved it.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:39 AM (j8jVg)

121 104 So checking leftwing forums their big item today seems to be they've decided Taylor Swift is a NAZI.

Why?

Adam Sandler conducted her marriage ceremony.

Why does that make her a NAZI? He's Jewish and not one of those Jewish people whose career is around hating Israel.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)

Because Adam Sandler doesn't go around spewing progressive bullshit talking points and is rumored to at least be right-leaning, though he generally stays out of it and just makes movies and shows. These days that makes you a Nazi or Nazi-adjacent.

Posted by: I'm sure they hate Rob Schneider more at July 06, 2026 11:40 AM (TbWk/)

122 Currently have Chevy Colorado trail boss. Probably will be my last new vehicle. So far I love it but I've put minimal mileage on it and don't plan on the yearly mileage going any higher.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:40 AM (/WQyy)

123 I think EV motorcycles have a chance.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:31 AM (/WQyy)

E Bikes and E Cycles are big with the homeless crowd. No license, no problem. They hack the E Bikes to go faster than from the factory and go zooming around the roadways and parks stealing electricity from any available unprotected outlet. The boys in blue can't keep up with them and no money in it so they leave them be. A homeless guy told me E Bikes have pedals where E Cycles do not.

Posted by: News From The Street at July 06, 2026 11:41 AM (og9zY)

124 Unbelievable. Mamdani wants government grocery stores, and he wants bodega owner to help him destroy them.

New York Bodega Owners to City: Drop Dead!
“We met with bodega owners so they could help us plan and ensure that we take into account their challenges and their role as a part of the food ecosystem,” Julie Su, deputy mayor for "economic justice," told the Post in a statement. But what really happened was that bodega owners reported to City Hall last week at Su's invitation for a roundtable discussion, "only to get barraged with 'intrusive' questions about their businesses," according to the Post's source.

The questionnaire bodega owners were expected to fill out included questions like, “What items are sold the most at your stores?” and “Where is your profit margin the greatest?”

The correct answer to questions like those is, "Get stuffed."


But he assures us that's not going to happen. Sure, Jan.

Su told the Post, "we wanted to understand whether there are key products bodegas sell and rely on that we should not sell. That’s how serious we are about not undercutting them."

https://tinyurl.com/43ptwjza

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:41 AM (Riz8t)

125 72 One of Ford's unforgivable sins was perverting the Mustang brand. Making a 4 door version of it, making an EV branded one. Harkens back to when Ford came out with the Probe which was to replace the aging Mustang. Anybody see any Ford Probes around?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (N39Ws

I think I know where all the Probes got shoved.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (edUvp)

126 Wasn't Ford selling trucks to the Nazis before WW11 started?

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (DCsZP)

127 The importance of education.

"The National Education Association will call for the impeachment, conviction, and removal of Donald Trump from the US Presidency."

They want a "National March on Washington D.C. to remove Trump before the November 2026 midterm election"

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They may be the ones in for an education.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (ndZc7)

128
I’m guessing low mileage pre-2018 vehicles will appreciate in value better than later year models.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (j8jVg)

129 Imagine being a "deputy manager for economic justice."

Imagine that is an actual position in the City that Never Sleeps

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (fKauK)

130 Posted by: ballistic at July 06, 2026 11:38 AM (oqH4h)

Agree. My understanding it has to be an intentional act. The video clearly showed it wasn't intentional. I don't know what the reviewer's reasoning was to issue the red card.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (/WQyy)

131 NYC will soon become a bodega desert, until the government stores inevitably shutter their doors, and the former bodega owners will be long gone.

Posted by: Communists destroy everything they touch at July 06, 2026 11:43 AM (TbWk/)

132 Wasn't Ford selling trucks to the Nazis before WW11 started?

Hey some people did some things in World War Eleven you know

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at July 06, 2026 11:43 AM (sKqQm)

133 Ford famously avoided the direct taxpayer-funded bailouts that General Motors & Chrysler required to survive the 2008 financial crisis, but has received billions of dollars in other forms of government assistance.

But Ford frequently utilizes state and local tax credits, infrastructure grants, and workforce development funds to build and operate its manufacturing footprint across the United States.

In 2023, the federal government issued a $9.2 billion loan to a joint venture between Ford and SK Innovation to help construct electric vehicle battery plants. The initial $9.2 billion conditional commitment announced by the Department of Energy (DOE) was later finalized as a $9.63 billion direct loan in December 2024.

Issued under the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing (ATVM) program, it stands as the largest single loan in the history of the DOE.

The BlueOval SK joint venture dissolved late 2025; the deal restructured 2026, and under the revised sponsorship agreements, Ford directly guarantees 50% of the loan's payment obligations.

Maybe it's apples to oranges, but it seems very 'slick' to me. 🤷‍♀️

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 11:43 AM (NFX2v)

134 Pleasing for everyone to know we are available to take these jobs at 1/3 price.

Posted by: The real AI - Actual Indians at July 06, 2026 11:43 AM (WUIO9)

135 I think EV motorcycles have a chance.

EV motorcycles could fill a niche similar to EV cars, i.e. limited range within populated areas. But most people don't buy bikes to commute, they buy them for recreation. From what I've seen and read, electric bikes are a sh*t-ton of fun to ride but still most riders want to (or at least want to be able to) ride extended distances. Also, a part of the market (typified by H-D) explicitly doesn't want innovation.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:43 AM (vTZFs)

136 Agree. My understanding it has to be an intentional act. The video clearly showed it wasn't intentional. I don't know what the reviewer's reasoning was to issue the red card.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (/WQyy)

Same reason as always these days.

"AH HATES YOU!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:43 AM (edUvp)

137 Somewhat related, the Ferrari Luce EV is going down as the most catastrophic new product launch since the Pontiac Aztec, New Coke, and Men's Tampons.

The car isn't just polarizing or controversial. Everyone hates it. Potential buyers are running for the hills. The Luce is such a comic joke that nobody wants to be seen with it.

Ferrari was warned. Every other super-EV of the last few years was a sales abomination. Lambo had its own super-EV in the works (the Lanzador) but wisely shitcanned the entire product when the company realized there was zero customer interest.

The Schadenfreude, it is delicious.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:43 AM (iFTx/)

138 125 72 One of Ford's unforgivable sins was perverting the Mustang brand. Making a 4 door version of it, making an EV branded one. Harkens back to when Ford came out with the Probe which was to replace the aging Mustang. Anybody see any Ford Probes around?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (N39Ws

I think I know where all the Probes got shoved.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (edUvp)

Being Kommissar of Transportation has its perks!
SQUEEEEEEEE

Posted by: Pete Buttgiggity at July 06, 2026 11:44 AM (TbWk/)

139 I don't have a problem with tax incentives to get corporations to move to a state. I do think though they need to consider the industry/marketplace of those corporations. But I don't hold them to the same standard as the corporation regard to the marketplace due diligence .
Posted by: polynikes
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I do, it privatizes benefits and lays costs on the taxpayers. Rent seeking behavior and in most cases, the math doesn't work out. Like those EV plants, suddenly not needed, millions spent by state governments for non existent jobs, but the land developers made bank. See Rivian and Georgia for an example.

Often, these factories are built, then the company decides to offshore the production to make a few more bucks per unit and takes the machinery with them leaving a debt payments for the locale and an unsalable big empty building.

In almost all cases, the subsidies or tax abatements, if you had to do them, should go to existing local firms that are unlikely to suddenly move somewhere else. But those don't get plaudits from the local media when they lie about the cost/benefit analysis and profits for the pols from land developers.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:44 AM (E4rtv)

140 • Those 2,322 EVs included discontinued F150 Lightnings, which Ford is practically giving away to make them go away. I’d call it a “fire sale,” but that seems a little insensitive considering the Lightning’s propensity to spontaneously erupt into flames.

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Not that I'd buy one in 100 years, but I thought I'd see how cheap they were in Northern Virginia. The cheapest I saw in a brief look was still over $50K, a markdown of $8000. There were others still at $60K+, marked down only by $1-2K. Perhaps there are all sorts of incentives I'm missing, but that's not a clearance sale to me. I guess the local dealers still like having money tied up in aging inventory.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 06, 2026 11:44 AM (KFbdf)

141 Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:44 AM (E4rtv)

It's worked in Texas

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:45 AM (/WQyy)

142 >>> 104 So checking leftwing forums their big item today seems to be they've decided Taylor Swift is a NAZI.

Why?

Adam Sandler conducted her marriage ceremony.

Why does that make her a NAZI? He's Jewish and not one of those Jewish people whose career is around hating Israel.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)

I love how the commies think they're just like the guys who ran up the beaches at Normandy because they (commies) really RILLY hate JOOOOS.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 11:45 AM (R+iUD)

143 Somewhat related, the Ferrari Luce EV is going down as the most catastrophic new product launch since the Pontiac Aztec, New Coke, and Men's Tampons.



They saw our commercial and said hold my beer.

Posted by: Jaguar at July 06, 2026 11:46 AM (WUIO9)

144 Does anyone here at AoS like horsepower? Hotrods with turbos and superchargers? Kia’s, Subarus, mid size pickups….thats it? No vettes, no McLarens? I can see Whig in Ferrari.

Posted by: BIG JUICY DATA CENTERS at July 06, 2026 11:46 AM (1+Mqc)

145 I don't have a problem with tax incentives to get corporations to move to a state. I do think though they need to consider the industry/marketplace of those corporations. But I don't hold them to the same standard as the corporation regard to the marketplace due diligence .
Posted by: polynikes
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I do, it privatizes benefits and lays costs on the taxpayers. Rent seeking behavior and in most cases, the math doesn't work out. Like those EV plants, suddenly not needed, millions spent by state governments for non existent jobs, but the land developers made bank. See Rivian and Georgia for an example.


Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:44 AM (E4rtv)
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Privatization of profits but socialization of losses

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:46 AM (iFTx/)

146 119 I bet I'd sell pretty well.
Posted by: Toyota Hilux at July 06, 2026 11:39 AM (DCsZP)
Yes you would.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2026 11:46 AM (LHPAg)

147 11 and many of the company’s veteran technicians left Ford before their knowledge could be used to improve the performance of the AI tools.

So, the techs failed to position their successor AI's for success.

Fire them again!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 06, 2026 11:04 AM (/HDaX)

Well, that's the obvious intention. Hire them back, get them to fine-tune the AI, and then fire them again. I'm sure the re-hired engineers will be greatly motivated to impart their knowledge with no mistakes into their robot overlord successors.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 06, 2026 11:47 AM (KFbdf)

148 Jumangi: The Jar Jar Binks of the SCOTUS.

Not Satire: Ketanji Brown Jackson Featured As "People's Champion" On Cover Of "Essence" Magazine

https://tinyurl.com/33ckra9c

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:47 AM (ndZc7)

149 >>> 112 "Post
user avatar
RazörFist
@RazorFist

Yes it was.
Charlottesville was organized by paid informants for SPLC. Every organization directly involved were therefore tainted by SPLC funding.

American Vanguard was one of those groups.

After Charlottesvile, they changed their name.
To Patriot Front."
Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 11:37 AM (tOcjL)

Well *we* certainly had no involvement.

Posted by: Top Men and Whammen of the Eff.Bee.EYE at July 06, 2026 11:48 AM (R+iUD)

150 The left has been calling Taylor Swift a Nazi for a while. It started with her last album where she sang about getting married and having kids. And all the 30-something future cat ladies turned on her for abandoning the sisterhood and adopting the white nationalist patriarchy or some such.

Posted by: Jaguar at July 06, 2026 11:48 AM (WUIO9)

151 The AI gambit has its issues - sra blastter works for a major telco who's Chairman is viral on the intertubes in a video interview where he says they are looking to cut headcount by 70%. Imagine the morale there.

And it is also cover for Ford - they wrote off tens of billions of dollars with their EV failure. That really wasn't a failure of EVs in the marketplace, it was more a failure of Ford to execute. And then they lay off engineers and say umm, AI.

Gah.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 06, 2026 11:48 AM (fKauK)

152 Anybody see any Ford Probes around?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM


I actually had one in the early 90s. Fun car. Drove it until it fell apart and bought a 3-series BMW. Drove that until it fell apart, then bought the current Honda Accord. Apart from not having all-wheel drive, I love that thing.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (bFu5X)

153 Jumangi: The Jar Jar Binks of the SCOTUS.

Not Satire: Ketanji Brown Jackson Featured As "People's Champion" On Cover Of "Essence" Magazine

https://tinyurl.com/33ckra9c


Essence is a magazine for blacks, and whattya know, she's black. I wonder if the editors of Essence knew that before they selected her as a People's Champion.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

154 Ketanji Brown Jackson Featured As "People's Champion"

==

Do y'all remember when Justice Clarence Thomas was featured on the cover of Essence Magazine?

Posted by: Things that never happened at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (GD0B3)

155 So checking leftwing forums their big item today seems to be they've decided Taylor Swift is a NAZI.

Why?

Adam Sandler conducted her marriage ceremony.

Why does that make her a NAZI? He's Jewish and not one of those Jewish people whose career is around hating Israel.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:35 AM (sKqQm)
______

Nothing says "This wedding is really serious, guys" like having Adam Fucking Sandler officiate your deathless vows

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

156 131 NYC will soon become a bodega desert, until the government stores inevitably shutter their doors, and the former bodega owners will be long gone.
Posted by: Communists
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A fair chunk of those bodegas are selling stolen merchandise from boosters from teh local CVS, Walgreens, grocery stores, Wal Marts, etc. And many are also in the business of food stamp fraud.

Capitalism is a means to an end, it is not an end in itself. Far better at allocating resources than socialism because pricing more information rich than government fiats but that does not, in and of itself, mean that all capitalists are virtuous as a class. Both society and government exist because pure capitalism would result in babies being auctioned, adulterated products right and left (the milk scandals of the 19th and 20th centuries, etc.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (E4rtv)

157 Swift adopted leftwing politics because she thought it made business sense.

I suspect she sees going too far down the woke path isn't going to make her more $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (sKqQm)

158 The TEF set up in Texas is kicking CA ass. I think Florida may have something similar.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (/WQyy)

159 So Adam Sandler is some kind of cleric?

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (77rzZ)

160 Giving it back to the Indians (casino, not call center)

California gives 136 acres of scenic beachfront property to native tribes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (ndZc7)

161 144 Does anyone here at AoS like horsepower? Hotrods with turbos and superchargers? Kia’s, Subarus, mid size pickups….thats it? No vettes, no McLarens? I can see Whig in Ferrari.
Posted by: BIG JUICY DATA CENTERS at July 06, 2026 11:46 AM (1+Mqc)


I have a twin turbo V8 Porsche Cayenne good for 500 hrsprs.

Does that count?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (fKauK)

162 >>> 127 The importance of education.

"The National Education Association will call for the impeachment, conviction, and removal of Donald Trump from the US Presidency."

They want a "National March on Washington D.C. to remove Trump before the November 2026 midterm election"

-
They may be the ones in for an education.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:42 AM (ndZc7)

Consider the percentage of danger hairs and nose rings in such a march...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (R+iUD)

163 > Somewhat related, the Ferrari Luce EV is going down as the most catastrophic new product launch since the Pontiac Aztec, New Coke, and Men's Tampons.
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It's like they don't even know their own clientele.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (jehhT)

164 Nothing says "This wedding is really serious, guys" like having Adam Fucking Sandler officiate your deathless vows

OTOH I did enjoy "The Wedding Singer"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (sKqQm)

165 Yes, that feature in Essence Magazine about Thomas Sowell was great!

Posted by: Things that never happened at July 06, 2026 11:51 AM (GD0B3)

166
Nothing says "This wedding is really serious, guys" like having Adam Fucking Sandler officiate your deathless vows
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

In front of an intimate crowd of 1000 in Madison Square Garden...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 11:51 AM (GsrgF)

167 The Probe was me with a Ford badge on it.

Posted by: Mazda MX6 at July 06, 2026 11:51 AM (WUIO9)

168 In front of an intimate crowd of 1000 in Madison Square Garden...

Didn't the left tell us it is a known NAZI venue because some German Socialist fans had a rally there in the 1930s?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:51 AM (sKqQm)

169 Nothing says "This wedding is really serious, guys" like having Adam Fucking Sandler officiate your deathless vows
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

In front of an intimate crowd of 1000 in Madison Square Garden...


I have my invitation to the wedding night hijinks, and am really looking forward to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t)

170
Swift’s prenup was 40 pages long.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (6osB/)

171 Jumangi: The Jar Jar Binks of the SCOTUS.

Not Satire: Ketanji Brown Jackson Featured As "People's Champion" On Cover Of "Essence" Magazine

https://tinyurl.com/33ckra9c

Essence is a magazine for blacks, and whattya know, she's black. I wonder if the editors of Essence knew that before they selected her as a People's Champion.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)
_______

Essence is specifically for black women, and like all fashion/lifestyle magazines it's been coopted by leftwing Trump-hating commies. So it's a magazine for leftwing black women. Of course they idolize Akshully Jackson.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

172 It's called "Corporatism."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (qFwJc)

173 One can get ordained online. For real. ULC !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (GD0B3)

174 I don't care enough to hate Taylor Swift . I hope it works out for them actually as I do for anyone getting married.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:53 AM (/WQyy)

175 Charlottesville was organized by paid informants for SPLC.

-
So Trump was wrong. There weren't good people on both sides.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:53 AM (ndZc7)

176 164 Nothing says "This wedding is really serious, guys" like having Adam Fucking Sandler officiate your deathless vows

OTOH I did enjoy "The Wedding Singer"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (sKqQm)

Probably his best movie, along with Happy Gilmore

Posted by: Just TAAAAP IT IN!!!!!! at July 06, 2026 11:53 AM (TbWk/)

177 Privatization of profits but socialization of losses
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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In the specific case, it is more precise to allocate the losses to the taxpayers rather than the general community. Someone is going to pay back those debts incurred for the bond issue and that is the taxpayer via property taxes, not the welfare class usually.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (E4rtv)

178 Ford has NOT learned a thing. Ford has cancelled the Escape, a relatively popular SUV, in order to retool the Kentucky plant to build a new electric pickup truck.

https://tinyurl.com/3tntpynu

Posted by: George V at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (HUbHH)

179 For some reason my Dot Indian little store around the corner has stopped taking EBT... They even taped all four corners on the hand drawn notification. Must be permanent.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (DCsZP)

180 >>> 175 Charlottesville was organized by paid informants for SPLC.

-
So Trump was wrong. There weren't good people on both sides.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:53 AM (ndZc7)

LOL

Can't wait to throw that at some retard leftist.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (R+iUD)

181 EV bikes are everywhere - I see packs of kids riding them. They aren't EV motorcycles but they are quite a bit more than just a bicycle with electric motor.

And they are hugely unregulated.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (fKauK)

182 148 Jumangi: The Jar Jar Binks of the SCOTUS.

Not Satire: Ketanji Brown Jackson Featured As "People's Champion" On Cover Of "Essence" Magazine

https://tinyurl.com/33ckra9c
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:47 AM (ndZc7)
Essence Magazine, that's about perfume, right? Hide odors?

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (LHPAg)

183 Regarding Bodegas, corner stores in poor areas used to sell goods via paycheck loans -- pay us back when you're paid. Usually a week or two tabs, depending.

Food Stamps killed these corner stores. Just as well, as there is a whole new way the poors create 'food deserts."

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (wBaIH)

184 The Probe was me with a Ford badge on it.
Posted by: Mazda MX6 at July 06, 2026 11:51 AM (WUIO9)


Well, a Ford badge, and a much more rakish design, appropriate for a car with sporting pretensions.

Posted by: far cry at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (wBRco)

185 Swift’s prenup was 40 pages long.
Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (6osB/)
_________

If so, that's short for a prenup. There are at least 20 pages in a modern prenup just reciting boilerplate bullshit.

I suspect the actual prenup is much longer than 40 pages.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (iFTx/)

186 Rumor is they got married prior to the MSG ceremony.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM (/WQyy)

187 Sigh... Now we have red card soccergate....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 11:55 AM (GsrgF)

188 I don't care enough to hate Taylor Swift

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My ignorance of Swift is exceeded only by my apathy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 11:55 AM (ndZc7)

189 Dearly Beloved, we are gathered here today to form a more perfect Union, to establish legal tax deductions, and insure domestic tranquility...

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 11:55 AM (GD0B3)

190 170
Swift’s prenup was 40 pages long.
Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (6osB/)

That's it? I would've expected a multi-volume set.

Posted by: Bring it in on a forklift at July 06, 2026 11:55 AM (TbWk/)

191
Kelces’ probably happy to release his Chakra after such a long engagement

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:55 AM (6osB/)

192 Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (i

I would guess that Adam Sandler is her friend and hopefully he had a conversation with the couple beforehand to determine what their vows would be instead of winging it. Getting your friend, father, brother , etc to officiate is now increasingly popular with people who do not belong to/ go to a church or synagogue and are not really into organized religion, and if people have been living together it obviates the need to have premarital counseling that most religious groups require.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 11:55 AM (Bw1/o)

193 OTOH I did enjoy "The Wedding Singer"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (sKqQm)

Probably his best movie, along with Happy Gilmore
Posted by: Just TAAAAP IT IN!!!!!! at July 06, 2026 11:53 AM (TbWk/)

IMHO His best movie is Funny People followed by Blended.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:56 AM (/WQyy)

194 Tay Tay proved the adage that eventually the left eats its own. You can never be left wing enough to satisfy the radicals.

She dutifully bashed Republicans, supported Hillary and Kamala, spoke in favor of all the gay and tranny shit and was all in on abortion And still it wasn’t enough.

Posted by: Mazda MX6 at July 06, 2026 11:57 AM (WUIO9)

195 157 Swift adopted leftwing politics because she thought it made business sense.

I suspect she sees going too far down the woke path isn't going to make her more $$$
Posted by: 18-1

The doings of celebutards have little to do with my quality of life. I try to ignore their comings and goings. Unfortunately for the crowd that likes celebrity worship, we don't have a depraved royal family like the Euros do to write endless useless wanking articles about. We have to make do with a class even more degenerate--entertainers.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 11:57 AM (E4rtv)

196 193 OTOH I did enjoy "The Wedding Singer"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:50 AM (sKqQm)


Good movie..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 11:57 AM (GsrgF)

197 Getting your friend, father, brother , etc to officiate is now increasingly popular with people who do not belong to/ go to a church or synagogue and are not really into organized religion, and if people have been living together it obviates the need to have premarital counseling that most religious groups require.

It's astonishing to me how many people now think they needn't bother with premarital counseling. Even if you're not religious, who wouldn't benefit from a disinterested 3rd party asking "have you thought about things like children, money, and chore allocation?"

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:57 AM (Riz8t)

198
From what I've seen, the US threatened to take FIFA to Arbitration Court over it, and FIFA rescinded the suspension so they didn't have to expose their retarded-ass appeals process in court.
==
Well it was supposedly already under review and that committee made their decision "independently". I think the issue was that the penalty was not called on the field, not even a yellow. And they used the review to determine intent - when it is only supposed to be for contact.

Its a weird and nearly pointless sport, where the players routinely flop to attempt to gain an advantage. It happens in other sports, but the comical writhing in agony, to then hop up and sprint downfield when the referee ignores you is just too common. Its like big time wrestling or something. Its a much play acting as it is sport.

Posted by: OMG the Complaining at July 06, 2026 11:57 AM (anL5R)

199 Nothing says "This wedding is really serious, guys" like having Adam Fucking Sandler officiate your deathless vows
Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

In front of an intimate crowd of 1000 in Madison Square Garden...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 11:51 AM (GsrgF)
___________

While I tried to avoid all things about this abomination of a wedding, I couldn't help see reports and updates about all the "stars" and "A Listers" at the wedding. Then they named a bunch of these supposed stars and showed their pictures.

I had no idea who most of these people are. Literally none. Some of the names I recognized, but to call them "stars" is beyond optimistic. Maybe they were famous .... 25 years ago.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 11:58 AM (iFTx/)

200
My prenup was a verbal commitment to surrender unconditionaly.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:58 AM (6osB/)

201 In parts of S.F., the bodegas offer gambling and drugs.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 06, 2026 11:58 AM (DZ9Lv)

202 did enjoy "The Wedding Singer"

Them gay afghan boys?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 06, 2026 11:58 AM (Kt19C)

203 So it's a Tay-Tay thread now?

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:58 AM (vTZFs)

204 Soccer seems very corrupt !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 11:59 AM (GD0B3)

205 My prenup was a verbal commitment to surrender unconditionaly.
Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:58 AM (6osB/)


LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 11:59 AM (GsrgF)

206 My prenup was a verbal commitment to surrender unconditionally.
Posted by: Auspex

No safe word? That's edgey.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 06, 2026 11:59 AM (DZ9Lv)

207 Clean up soccer !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 11:59 AM (GD0B3)

208 Taylor Swift is a Nazi are bot attacks. Mamdani's people got big money (shared in $26 million) doled out from the princess, a solid progressive, as result of the PR for the "wedding" at MSG.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 11:59 AM (NFX2v)

209 My prenup was a verbal commitment to surrender unconditionaly.

Saves time and in the end the only difference is that lawyers don't get a cut.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:59 AM (vTZFs)

210 203 So it's a Tay-Tay thread now?
Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:58 AM (vTZFs)

Well, we are talking about failures that people could see years ahead of time....

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at July 06, 2026 12:00 PM (KFbdf)

211 I would guess that Adam Sandler is her friend and hopefully he had a conversation with the couple beforehand to determine what their vows would be instead of winging it. Getting your friend, father, brother , etc to officiate is now increasingly popular with people who do not belong to/ go to a church or synagogue and are not really into organized religion, and if people have been living together it obviates the need to have premarital counseling that most religious groups require.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

My father was a justice of the peace, he married one couple but took it seriously. I was going through his papers and found where he wrote study notes as to how to do it properly.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:00 PM (E4rtv)

212 Swift’s prenup was 40 pages long.
Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (6osB/)

That's it? I would've expected a multi-volume set.
Posted by: Bring it in on a forklift


Encyclopedia Brittanica.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 12:00 PM (MXaEW)

213 The famous photo of the black woman riding the DC subway surrounded by Patriot Front "right wingers" has hit a snag.

t’s been revealed that the black woman Democrats put on a pedestal for “bravely” riding a train with Patriot Front members was engaging in indecent exposure on the train moments before the photo was taken and has a lengthy arrest record.


https://tinyurl.com/yepmcuak

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM (Riz8t)

214 John Roberts just ruled a red card is a tax and every member of the Belgian team is now a US citizen.

Posted by: Breaking News at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM (WUIO9)

215 Don’t you have to be ordained clergy to preside at a wedding for the marriage to be legally valid, or a judge/JP?

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM (77rzZ)

216 170
Swift’s prenup was 40 pages long.
Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 11:52 AM (6osB/)

That's it? I would've expected a multi-volume set.
Posted by: Bring it in on a forklift at July 06, 2026 11:55 AM (TbWk/)
----
That 40 pages is just the index to the full document...in a multi-volume set.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM (FZ29D)

217 Waiting for you guys to discuss the wedding dress and ..canapes..

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM (GD0B3)

218 Rumor is they got married prior to the MSG ceremony.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:54 AM


MSG in ceremony? Fuiyoh!

- Uncle Roger (probably)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM (bFu5X)

219 So it's a Tay-Tay thread now?
Posted by: Oddbob


Always a boob thread.

*Various definitions of boob.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 12:02 PM (MXaEW)

220 Bill Ford:

"I meant to do that", in a Pee Wee Herman voice.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 06, 2026 12:02 PM (0U5gm)

221 214 John Roberts just ruled a red card is a tax and every member of the Belgian team is now a US citizen.

However, he ruled out mandatory abortions for them, so it's a partial win.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:02 PM (Riz8t)

222 Don’t you have to be ordained clergy to preside at a wedding for the marriage to be legally valid, or a judge/JP?
Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM


In some states (maybe all for all I know) you can be made a JP for a day.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:02 PM (bFu5X)

223 t’s been revealed that the black woman Democrats put on a pedestal for “bravely” riding a train with Patriot Front members was engaging in indecent exposure on the train moments before the photo was taken

I'm genuinely surprised. I figured she was as much a paid plant as everyone else on the train.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 12:03 PM (vTZFs)

224 Soccer seems very corrupt !
==
It is the pinnacle of ethics and morality!!!

Posted by: Sep Blatter at July 06, 2026 12:03 PM (anL5R)

225 Adam Sandler conducted her marriage ceremony.

Why does that make her a NAZI? He's Jewish and not one of those Jewish people whose career is around hating Israel.


The DNC's entire brand is "we hate Jews" at this point. It's comical seeing Jewish voters and elected Jewish Dems fail to understand that. Josh Shapiro actually thinks that by not sending a PA delegation to the state-by-state fair thing in DC he's a lock for 2028.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:03 PM (2ocoG)

226 209 My prenup was a verbal commitment to surrender unconditionaly.

Saves time and in the end the only difference is that lawyers don't get a cut.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 11:59 AM (vTZFs)

You still lose your balls and get eviscerated in exchange for not having sex with the same woman for the rest of your life. Helluva deal!

Posted by: A dweam wiffin a dweam at July 06, 2026 12:04 PM (TbWk/)

227 Ford famously avoided the direct taxpayer-funded bailouts that General Motors & Chrysler required to survive the 2008 financial crisis"

And regretted doing so, once they saw billions pour in without actually making and selling things

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:04 PM (cGjQu)

228 The famous photo of the black woman riding the DC subway surrounded by Patriot Front "right wingers" has hit a snag.

t’s been revealed that the black woman Democrats put on a pedestal for “bravely” riding a train with Patriot Front members was engaging in indecent exposure on the train moments before the photo was taken and has a lengthy arrest record.


https://tinyurl.com/yepmcuak
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:01 PM (Riz8t)
_____

She was brave for riding in the same train as undercover FBI agents loyal to the MAGA-hating Deep State?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at July 06, 2026 12:04 PM (iFTx/)

229 In some states (maybe all for all I know) you can be made a JP for a day.

My sister-in-law got some kind of online credential to officiate a friend's wedding. She has no intention of ever using it again unless maybe it gets her a discount at Denny's.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2026 12:04 PM (vTZFs)

230 Should've had Keith Richards officiate. You know, symbol of longevity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 12:04 PM (ndZc7)

231 The DNC's entire brand is "we hate Jews" at this point. It's comical seeing Jewish voters and elected Jewish Dems fail to understand that. Josh Shapiro actually thinks that by not sending a PA delegation to the state-by-state fair thing in DC he's a lock for 2028.

He's actually one of the potentials I fear most. Or I would if, you know, he weren't a filthy Joo.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 12:05 PM (Riz8t)

232
The Schadenfreude, it is delicious.
Posted by: Elric The Blade


Schadenfreude would be a good model name.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2026 12:05 PM (Cqx++)

233 I see it clearly now, rhere is a Devine reason for the US to host FIFA! We are destined to clean up the sport, for the good of ALL !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 12:05 PM (GD0B3)

234 Posted by: A dweam wiffin a dweam at July 06, 2026 12:04 PM

Wow...the Impressive Clergyman posts here!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:05 PM (bFu5X)

235 by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 11:57 A

You'd think so.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 12:05 PM (6UQAR)

236 *Divine...not De-Vine

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 12:06 PM (GD0B3)

237 You can predict what the left minded person will do but you can never explain it.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 11:23 AM (/WQyy)

Their compensation is obviously coming in other ways. No industry in the world becomes a consistent loser and never changes gears or questions it.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 12:06 PM (vE0+H)

238 I can drag up Philly.

BreakThrough News
1d
NOW: Hundreds of veterans participating in a "Freedom Over Fascism" march in Philadelphia to demonstrate their opposition to Trump's wars and immigration policies.
---
I think the military veterans among such groups were FEW & FAR between at best. In fact, I think a lot of marching men aren't U.S. citizens, a few are simply union organizers, and they're all boosted by the LGTQai++ community and Code Pink.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 12:06 PM (NFX2v)

239 She was brave for riding in the same train as undercover FBI agents loyal to the MAGA-hating Deep State?

I don't think they're FBI (Kash fired a *lot* of lefties and the FBI is at least appearing to do their job now), but they're definitely Deep State.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:06 PM (2ocoG)

240 I've had Hyundai's since 2008. My 18 year old Hyundai Santa Fe has 190K miles on it. Never had a problem. My newer 2020 Hyundai Santa Fe with 70k on it now has had no problems. My husband was a Hyundai master tech for a decade, then moved over to Kia for the last 9 years, don't buy a Kia.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 06, 2026 12:06 PM (2noDb)

241 they're all boosted by the LGTQai++ community

My favorite version of that I've seen is "LGHGTV".

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:08 PM (2ocoG)

242 I can drag up Philly.

BreakThrough News
1d
NOW: Hundreds of veterans participating in a "Freedom Over Fascism" march in Philadelphia to demonstrate their opposition to Trump's wars and immigration policies.
---
I think the military veterans among such groups were FEW & FAR between at best. In fact, I think a lot of marching men aren't U.S. citizens, a few are simply union organizers, and they're all boosted by the LGTQai++ community and Code Pink.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 12:06 PM


Show me your DD214s and the character of your discharges, commies. I have questions.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 12:08 PM (bFu5X)

243 Hundreds of veterans"

I saw video. "Hundreds", you say?

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:09 PM (cGjQu)

244 Swift adopted leftwing politics because she thought it made business sense.

I suspect she sees going too far down the woke path isn't going to make her more $$$
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 11:49 AM (sKqQm)

It jumped her from stardom to superstardom. They gave her Capital One commercials, big movies, and fawning media once she committed to them. Before that she was still on the fringes of world domination. The leftard sellout cinched it. They can't risk another Trump so you have to sell your soul to them before you are allowed too much influence.

Posted by: ... at July 06, 2026 12:09 PM (vE0+H)

245 The player in Redcardgate is an anchor baby. He was born in the US because his mom was too pregnant to fly back home after visiting. Airline refused to board her. So she popped little Flo on US soil. He went to the UK immediately and spent his entire left there. A couple of decades later US soccer was like hey that guy over there who hasn’t spent a day of his life in America …fuck we can use him.

Trump went to bat for him a few days after the scotus case that would have made him not eligible to play for the US, had the case gone his way and 25 years earlier.

His Birthday is July 3. He missed being a 4th of July baby by hours.

Life takes weird turns.

Posted by: Irony Alert at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (WUIO9)

246 And Belgium has filed a complaint against FISA for reinstating the American player.. Proof positive to me that the call was fixed...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (GsrgF)

247 Look at the build date on any domestic car and the number of problems is directly tied to a built time that spans a Friday or a Monday.
Only buy cars built Tuesday through Thursday.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (DCsZP)

248 241 they're all boosted by the LGTQai++ community

My favorite version of that I've seen is "LGHGTV".
Posted by: Ian S.

Yeah, I see no waning in the regional high schools.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (NFX2v)

249 Hundreds of veterans"

I saw video. "Hundreds", you say?
Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:09 PM


*shifty eyes*

Yup. Thousands, even. Just out of frame...

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: The MFM at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (bFu5X)

250 Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 12:00 PM (E4rtv)

I was not suggesting JP's don't take this responsibility seriously only that they usually don't do premarital counseling.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (6UQAR)

251 They're just fcking with us, part the bazillionth:
https://shorturl.at/YjKLn
The only ones without a link to records are George Washington and one other guy.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 06, 2026 12:10 PM (R+iUD)

252 Look at the build date "

That's just the date the vin was assigned.

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (cGjQu)

253 NOODLUM

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (l3cgK)

254 227 Ford famously avoided the direct taxpayer-funded bailouts that General Motors & Chrysler required to survive the 2008 financial crisis"

And regretted doing so, once they saw billions pour in without actually making and selling things

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:04 PM (cGjQu)

GM and Chrysler went bankrupt. Maybe the union workers regret the lack of it, but the owners certainly don't.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (okun6)

255 He's actually one of the potentials I fear most. Or I would if, you know, he weren't a filthy Joo.

Yeah, he's arguably their best potential candidate, but the Gaza worship has only gotten stronger since Kamala passed him over.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (2ocoG)

256 252 Look at the build date "

That's just the date the vin was assigned.
Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 12:11 PM (cGjQu)

It's in the paperwork of the car.

Posted by: Reforger at July 06, 2026 12:13 PM (DCsZP)

257 Belgium is indeed a low country.

Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops on hot mic at July 06, 2026 12:15 PM (anL5R)

258 Those of you who want simpler "no frills" cars have routinely been proven to be a very small but vocal minority of automotive buyers time and time again.

The dealers are unanimous, the de-featured base models are the ones that sit on the lot the longest.

The new Slate EV "truck" doesn't have anything ... not even a stereo. Crank windows. Manual mirrors. Its starting price is $25k and you don't even get A/C for that.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 06, 2026 12:25 PM (WYStd)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

Robert Louvre.jpg

Imaginary View Of The Grande Galerie In The Louvre
Hubert Robert

Posted by: CBD at 09:33 AM




Comments

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1 meta

Posted by: Otto Penn at July 06, 2026 09:35 AM (sJHOI)

2 a painting about paintings

Posted by: Otto Penn at July 06, 2026 09:35 AM (sJHOI)

3 Very well done. Would hang.

Posted by: Will Robinson at July 06, 2026 09:35 AM (4a6AT)

4 Interesting

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 09:36 AM (sgkY8)

5 Hubert's imagination was angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at July 06, 2026 09:36 AM (2Ez/1)

6 Fire trap.

Posted by: Parisian Fire Marshall Bill at July 06, 2026 09:36 AM (6Ga6M)

7 What’s “imaginary” about it?

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 09:36 AM (77rzZ)

8 You'd think the skylight would brighten the place up a bit.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at July 06, 2026 09:37 AM (6v6cQ)

9 Imaginary View Of Old Greek Homos.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 06, 2026 09:37 AM (Kt19C)

10 2 a painting about paintings
Posted by: Otto Penn at July 06, 2026 09:35 AM
-----
What about us?

Posted by: Statues of nekkid people at July 06, 2026 09:37 AM (2Ez/1)

11 Awfully dark for a gallery with such a large skylight. But, hey, it's his imagination, not mine.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 09:37 AM (bFu5X)

12 Hubert Hubert

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 09:37 AM (RIvkX)

13 Butt and side boob at lower left so I guess it qualifies as art.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:38 AM (ExV1e)

14 Since it's imaginary, would it have hurt to put in a few happy little bushes?

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at July 06, 2026 09:38 AM (0sNs1)

15 Artist almost had a date with the death. Per Wiki:
"Robert was arrested in October 1793, during the French Revolution.During the ten months of his detention at Sainte-Pélagie and Saint-Lazare he made many drawings, painted at least 53 canvases, and painted numerous vignettes of prison life on plates.He was freed one week after the fall of Robespierre.Robert narrowly escaped the guillotine when through error another prisoner with a similar name was guillotined in his place."

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2026 09:38 AM (lJ0H4)

16 They're painting forgeries for display...the real stuff is hidden deep underground.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 09:39 AM (FZ29D)

17 Artist almost had a date with the death. Per Wiki:
"Robert was arrested in October 1793, during the French Revolution.During the ten months of his detention at Sainte-Pélagie and Saint-Lazare he made many drawings, painted at least 53 canvases, and painted numerous vignettes of prison life on plates.He was freed one week after the fall of Robespierre.Robert narrowly escaped the guillotine when through error another prisoner with a similar name was guillotined in his place."
Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2026 09:38 AM


Vive la liberté!

Or something...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 09:40 AM (bFu5X)

18 Must have been a sale on nude statues.
Some of those paintings are huge, could not hang on my walls.

Posted by: Case at July 06, 2026 09:41 AM (IY9No)

19 Muslim dystopian France

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2026 09:42 AM (6/7Fs)

20 Hubert Robert... seems backwards.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 09:42 AM (jehhT)

21 "Robert was arrested in October 1793, during the French Revolution.During the ten months of his detention at Sainte-Pélagie and Saint-Lazare he made many drawings, painted at least 53 canvases, and painted numerous vignettes of prison life on plates. He was freed one week after the fall of Robespierre. Robert narrowly escaped the guillotine when through error another prisoner with a similar name was guillotined in his place."
Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2026 09:38 AM (lJ0H4)
----
So he's going to the guillotine, but his jailers are considerate enough to supply him with art materials.

Maybe they figured once he's dead, his paintings would be worth a fortune...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 09:42 AM (FZ29D)

22 That must be the backroom!


I always wonder about all the paintings and other artifacts these museums own that have been tucked away in the basement for decades, unappreciated, unloved!

IIRC, a few years back, a young scientist at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science was checking out an old mammoth's bones that had been in the basement since forever and made a breakthrough type observation/discovery.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:42 AM (X8xt3)

23 They're painting forgeries for display...the real stuff is hidden deep underground.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 09:39 AM (FZ29D)


The real stuff was stolen by that guy in that movie who had it copied and then replaced in the museum covered by watercolors which get rinsed off by the fire system and everyone decides that they won't try to arrest him because boys will be boys.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:42 AM (ExV1e)

24 Robert narrowly escaped the guillotine when through error another prisoner with a similar name was guillotined in his place."

----------

Wristbands, people. Wristbands.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (6/7Fs)

25 I've seen flea markets arranged better.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (MXaEW)

26 Is this painting inside the painting?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (l3cgK)

27 Beats working in a coal mine oui?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 09:44 AM (2GVsD)

28 I've seen flea markets arranged better.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (MXaEW)


Fleas are well known for being obsessed with organization.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:44 AM (ExV1e)

29 Artist almost had a date with the death. Per Wiki:
"Robert was arrested in October 1793, during the French Revolution.During the ten months of his detention at Sainte-Pélagie and Saint-Lazare he made many drawings, painted at least 53 canvases, and painted numerous vignettes of prison life on plates.He was freed one week after the fall of Robespierre.Robert narrowly escaped the guillotine when through error another prisoner with a similar name was guillotined in his place."
Posted by: Tuna

Close enough. Bastard did something to lose his head.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 09:44 AM (1IhIV)

30 I think maybe CBD is still basking in some patriotic Independence Day afterglow. The large painting leaning against the wall appears to be some architecture akin to TJ's memorial and up above it on the wall there's a tall phallic symbol not unlike George's monument.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 06, 2026 09:44 AM (2Ez/1)

31 The attic of misfit art.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 09:46 AM (jehhT)

32 During the ten months of his detention at Sainte-Pélagie and Saint-Lazare he made many drawings, painted at least 53 canvases, and painted numerous vignettes of prison life on plates

---------

Now available in rare collector's editions rimmed in genuine 14 kt gold leaf!

Posted by: The Bradford Exchange at July 06, 2026 09:47 AM (6/7Fs)

33 Nice portrait of the artist by Elisabeth Vigee-Le Brun on his Wikipedia page.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2026 09:47 AM (lJ0H4)

34 Guy named backwards.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2026 09:49 AM (LHPAg)

35 I hope CBD got to see the TJ statue in Paris, as well as the former Texas Embassy there.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 06, 2026 09:49 AM (Iwx/a)

36 ...numerous vignettes of prison life...

Dear NY Metropolitan Museum of Art:
This one time, when I was on kitchen duty...

Posted by: Robert Hubert at July 06, 2026 09:50 AM (2Ez/1)

37 Very cool art today.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 09:50 AM (NpAcC)

38 Guy named backwards.
Posted by: Eromero


Yug?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 09:50 AM (MXaEW)

39 Very cool art today.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 09:50 AM (NpAcC)


No AC. Probably hot and stuffy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:50 AM (ExV1e)

40 I like this view better in The Edge of Tomorrow...which was one of Cruise's best movies

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:53 AM (sKqQm)

41 He was freed one week after the fall of Robespierre

That guy's death was pretty terrible....and he deserved every moment of it.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:54 AM (sKqQm)

42 pronounced Who Bear Rob Bear. The three bears must have been wondering the same.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 06, 2026 09:57 AM (gKWVE)

43 Looks a little cluttered. I can help.

Posted by: Marie Kondo at July 06, 2026 09:58 AM (1z8ji)

44 Marie Kondo is one of the few influencer types that I believe is on to something.

Having a bunch of crap that just gets in the way in your house is not going to make you happier...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:59 AM (sKqQm)

45 This is a delightful painting. You can get lost in the atmosphere and details. Robert was known as a painter of classic ruins and incorporated that theme into this scene of the newly opened Louvre. (Don't know if that shows a sense of humor or just played to his audience.) I wonder if the Romantic school of art reflects the literary Romantic period of Coleridge and Wordsworth and led to the Pre-Raphaelite movement.

BTW, Robert did a lot of pen and ink, chalk, and watercolor washes. They are remarkable.

Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2026 09:59 AM (yTvNw)

46 Kinda dim. I get not subjecting art to harsh lighting, but could we at least make it bright enough to see?

Posted by: Nightblind at July 06, 2026 10:01 AM (sUTO1)

47 Very interesting painting.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 10:03 AM (Bw1/o)

48 @39 No AC. Probably hot and stuffy.
French skylight glazing. Hard to believe anything below survives.

@44 Having a bunch of crap that just gets in the way in your house is not going to make you happier...
Two schools of thought on that, one well represented here by those just moving into care facilities. "Down sizing their lives."

My best old boss used to say, "If a cluttered desk is the sign of a cluttered mind, what is an empty desk the sign of?"

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 06, 2026 10:04 AM (zdLoL)

49 Kinda dim. I get not subjecting art to harsh lighting, but could we at least make it bright enough to see?
Posted by: Nightblind at July 06, 2026 10:01 AM (sUTO1)

**side eyes**

Posted by: Modern Movies at July 06, 2026 10:04 AM (6Ga6M)

50
An ambitious young artist named Hoover
Ws a bit of a shaker and a mover
He said rom the start
That he'd like to make art
That was good enough to hang in the Loover

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:05 AM (I0N4X)

51 So he painted with vigor and verve
To get the reward he'd deserve
His art was so fine
that by the end of the line
It was good enough to hang in the Lurve

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:06 AM (I0N4X)

52 His artwork was hard to forget
His success was a guaranteed bet
"The Loove," he announced
"Is too hard to pronounce
So instead it shall hang in the Met!"

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:06 AM (I0N4X)

53 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. This is nothing. The artist should see my garage. Hundreds of sacred and valuable things that have been stored over the years.
Well. Everything except a 11 mm socket.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 10:06 AM (2WIwB)

54 A triple from muldoon.

Posted by: Tuna at July 06, 2026 10:07 AM (lJ0H4)

55 A muldoon hat trick. That's a thing o' beauty, Horde.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 06, 2026 10:08 AM (OUMaO)

56 CBD,
Thanks for bringing this artist to my attention. Looking at his artwork on the Wiki page made me think of the Romantic era poetry (same period) I enjoy so much.

Posted by: JTB at July 06, 2026 10:09 AM (yTvNw)

57 Huh. So THAT's where they keep the 'Good Stuff' … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 06, 2026 10:09 AM (ayRl+)

58 A muldoon hat trick. That's a thing o' beauty, Horde.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 06, 2026 10:08 AM (OUMaO)



It is indeed!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 10:10 AM (1z8ji)

59 A muldoon hat trick. That's a thing o' beauty, Horde.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 06, 2026 10:08 AM (OUMaO)


Concur!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 10:11 AM (2WIwB)

60 I hope CBD got to see the TJ statue in Paris

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 06, 2026 09:49 AM (Iwx/a)


Yup. It's on the left bank side of a bridge we took all of the time!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...DSA at July 06, 2026 10:11 AM (l4RKn)

61 Muldoon hits a triple! We're not worthy!

Posted by: Limerick Lover at July 06, 2026 10:16 AM (2Ez/1)

62 A muldoon hat trick. That's a thing o' beauty, Horde.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Fiat Justicia, Ruat Caelum at July 06, 2026 10:08 AM (OUMaO)

Duly ratified. Unanimously, even.

Posted by: Count de Monet at a remote location at July 06, 2026 10:16 AM (6Ga6M)

63 Where the heck is everyone this morning?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 06, 2026 10:17 AM (W2Pud)

64 We're sweeping up all the fireworks debris.

Posted by: Everyone at July 06, 2026 10:18 AM (2Ez/1)

65 63 Where the heck is everyone this morning?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Looting ze colonies for more museum materiel, mon cherie.

Posted by: les Francaises at July 06, 2026 10:18 AM (gKWVE)

66 Dangnabbit! I think I strained an oblique trying that move!

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:19 AM (I0N4X)

67 Where the heck is everyone this morning?
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 06, 2026 10:17 AM (W2Pud)

Stuck on the floor practicing the Viking Row.

Posted by: Count de Monet at a remote location at July 06, 2026 10:20 AM (6Ga6M)

68 Looting ze colonies for more museum materiel, mon cherie.
Posted by: les Francaises at July 06, 2026 10:18 AM


Is it *really* a French impersonation if "Allahu Ackbar" isn't involved?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 10:22 AM (2ocoG)

69 66 Dangnabbit! I think I strained an oblique trying that move!
Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:19 AM
+++

The Loove move.
I see that a lot.

Posted by: Muldoon's chiropractor at July 06, 2026 10:23 AM (2Ez/1)

70 Missed opportunity.

Correction:

I strained an oblique trying that manouvre!!

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:23 AM (I0N4X)

71 I always wonder about all the paintings and other artifacts these museums own that have been tucked away in the basement for decades, unappreciated, unloved!

From what I've seen it is 90% broken pots. No wonder they are losing dinosaur bones in there!

Posted by: frammish at July 06, 2026 10:25 AM (rcENI)

72
Imaginary: as in it's an image of images. Oh so clever with the naming of this!

It's as dark as a tomb. Would not hang.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:25 AM (s9VOe)

73 IIRC back in the 70's the Smithsonian (all of the museums) would take a number of high schoolers who applied as interns to work in their various storage facilities. Mostly cataloging the inventory. I applied, but I guess they had an overwhelming number of volunteers because I wasn't chosen. Or something.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 10:29 AM (jehhT)

74
Somewhere in a back room , Sigourney Weaver is restoring a painting of Count Vigo the Carpathian.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:29 AM (s9VOe)

75 If you gaze too long at the Louvre, sometimes the Louvre gazes back at you.

/stuff Nietzsche might have said if he were an art critic

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:29 AM (I0N4X)

76 Like it except that it's dark. I too don't understand that long period of style where everything is painted in shadow.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:30 AM (/WQyy)

77 The Louvre is dead.

/more stuff Nietzsche might have said if he were an art critic

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:30 AM (I0N4X)

78 You're a dick!

/stuff Spicoli might have told Nietzsche if Nietzsche were an art critic

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:31 AM (I0N4X)

79 They put an IM Pei monstrosity in front of the Louvre. That was a troll move imo.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:32 AM (/WQyy)

80 We had curtains but then switched to Louvre blinds for the windows.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 10:32 AM (2WIwB)

81
Looting ze colonies for more museum materiel, mon cherie.
Posted by: les Francaises


We shoot ze cannonballs at ze nose of Ze Sphinx and sometimes we even heet it! And zhen we go back to practicing how to surrender!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:32 AM (s9VOe)

82 What's so funny about peace, Louvre, and understanding?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 10:33 AM (ndZc7)

83 I always wonder about all the paintings and other artifacts these museums own that have been tucked away in the basement for decades, unappreciated, unloved!
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I think a lot of those may be of poor quality and perhaps overly delicate. Not always suitable for display.

Many of those artifacts are available to researchers with the proper credentials, however, and are often used in various research projects for publication.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 10:34 AM (FZ29D)

84 We're sweeping up all the fireworks debris.

Posted by: Everyone at July 06, 2026 10:18 AM (2Ez/1)

I'm letting the earth reclaim it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 06, 2026 10:35 AM (S41Gd)

85
"I don't care whether they say 'leever' or 'loover', said J. Edgar Hoover. "They're Commies. Arrest 'em all!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:35 AM (s9VOe)

86 I do like you can take virtual tours of most museums today.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:35 AM (/WQyy)

87 80 We had curtains but then switched to Louvre blinds for the windows.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 10:32 AM
+++

We've got some ideas you may want to consider.

Posted by: The Venetians at July 06, 2026 10:35 AM (2Ez/1)

88 This is all about me, isn’t it?
— Zombie Lou Hoover

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 10:35 AM (77rzZ)

89 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 10:34 AM (FZ29D)

And some museums are just Lefty and hate the artist. See Norman Rockwell.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:37 AM (/WQyy)

90 Gene Winfield punched a lot of louvers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 10:37 AM (1z8ji)

91 J. Edgar Louvre, Museum Detective.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 10:37 AM (ndZc7)

92
"Blinded by the Venetians" never got the airplay that it deserved. A masterpiece, it was!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:37 AM (s9VOe)

93 This artist has an interesting oeuvre.


(It had to be said!)

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:39 AM (I0N4X)

94 74
Somewhere in a back room , Sigourney Weaver is restoring a painting of Count Vigo the Carpathian.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:29 AM (s9VOe)

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Peter MacNichol was a hoot in that movie.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 06, 2026 10:39 AM (PiwSw)

95
Give me a Louvre long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.


-- Stuff Aristotle May Have Said, v2.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:40 AM (s9VOe)

96 If we don't stop with the puns about window blinds it'll be curtains for all of us.

Posted by: Oh, no... at July 06, 2026 10:41 AM (2Ez/1)

97 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 10:34 AM (FZ29D)

And some museums are just Lefty and hate the artist. See Norman Rockwell.
Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:37 AM (/WQyy)
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Also valid.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2026 10:41 AM (FZ29D)

98 95
Give me a Louvre long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.

-- Stuff Aristotle May Have Said, v2.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:40 AM (s9VOe)


Um.....

Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 10:41 AM (PiwSw)

99 96 If we don't stop with the puns about window blinds it'll be curtains for all of us.
Posted by: Oh, no... at July 06, 2026 10:41 AM (2Ez/1

I shudder to think what will happen.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:42 AM (/WQyy)

100 And some museums are just Lefty and hate the artist. See Norman Rockwell.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:37 AM (/WQyy)


Which is internally inconsistent. Rockwell was probably a Democrat!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...DSA at July 06, 2026 10:42 AM (l4RKn)

101 The National Pickleball Museum will be established in the Doovre.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 10:42 AM (77rzZ)

102 F'g autocorrect decides to make an accurate correction just so it can ruin the pun.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM (/WQyy)

103 If we don't stop with the puns about window blinds it'll be curtains for all of us.
Posted by: Oh, no

********

Now you're just 'throwing shade'.

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM (I0N4X)

104 You're going to bed without your supper, young man!

https://tinyurl.com/mwzsy37d

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM (ndZc7)

105 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...DSA at July 06, 2026 10:42 AM (l4RKn)


Exactly. They don't like the subject matter which is very pro American and consider it kitsch.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:44 AM (/WQyy)

106
"It's curtains for you, Rocky! Curtains!"

"Aww, they're adorable!"

https://youtube.com/shorts/OtQIldMDgPU

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:44 AM (s9VOe)

107 >>Where the heck is everyone this morning?

Mourning the death of Tyrin Johnson who din du nuffin' in Memphis yesterday when he was executed in cold blood by Trump's MAGAstapo (National Guard).

No, wait, that's the dummies at DU.

(You are going to be hearing the name, Tyrin Johnson, coming from the usual suspects quite a bit in the coming days, me thinks, while the story of the "teens" attacking the woman cop in North Charleston, South Carolina will get little coverage).

Posted by: one hour sober at July 06, 2026 10:45 AM (J4Dwc)

108 100 comments in an hour.
Sad!

Posted by: What happened at July 06, 2026 10:45 AM (WUIO9)

109
Um.....
Posted by: Archimedes


My mistake. Sorry.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:46 AM (s9VOe)

110 107 >>Where the heck is everyone this morning?


still recovering! busy busy weekend and busy upcoming week

we are mourning the death of a young officer here in Pennsylvania who was hit by an illegal alien driving a semi.

rrrrrrrrrrr

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at July 06, 2026 10:46 AM (j+aD2)

111 104 You're going to bed without your supper, young man!

https://tinyurl.com/mwzsy37d
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM (ndZc7)

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That's so weird. Chuck seems to be so mad he's actually vibrating.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 06, 2026 10:46 AM (PiwSw)

112 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...DSA at July 06, 2026 10:42 AM (l4RKn)

And unfortunately I could have used Andrew Wyeth as an example.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:46 AM (/WQyy)

113 Window blind puns have to be written in Braille.

Posted by: Groan at July 06, 2026 10:47 AM (2Ez/1)

114 108 100 comments in an hour.
Sad!
Posted by: What happened at July 06, 2026 10:45 AM (WUIO9)

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Judging from how empty the restaurant was yesterday, I'm starting to suspect the Rapture has happened.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2026 10:47 AM (u/oMr)

115 Um.....
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 10:41 AM


Hey, Archimedes...screw!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 10:47 AM (bFu5X)

116
(You are going to be hearing the name, Tyrin Johnson, coming from the usual suspects quite a bit in the coming days, me thinks, while the story of the "teens" attacking the woman cop in North Charleston, South Carolina will get little coverage).
Posted by: one hour sober


And nothing about the black woman shot in the eye in Wilmington, DE, and fighting for her life.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:48 AM (s9VOe)

117 I had louvres on the hatchback of my '82 Celica.

Posted by: Count de Monet at a remote location at July 06, 2026 10:49 AM (6Ga6M)

118 Archimedes, you need to take a shower. You reek, eh?

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 10:49 AM (77rzZ)

119 115 Um.....
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2026 10:41 AM

Hey, Archimedes...screw!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 10:47 AM (bFu5X)

------

Actually, "Eureka!" is Greek for "this bathwater is freezing!"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 06, 2026 10:49 AM (PiwSw)

120 (You are going to be hearing the name, Tyrin Johnson, coming from the usual suspects quite a bit in the coming days, me thinks, while the story of the "teens" attacking the woman cop in North Charleston, South Carolina will get little coverage).

The obviously staged photo of the Patriot Front feds surrounding a black woman on the subway is about to go bye-bye too. Turns out she'd previously been arrested for waving her cooter at random people on the same subway.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 10:50 AM (2ocoG)

121 Which is internally inconsistent. Rockwell was probably a Democrat!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...DSA at July 06, 2026 10:42 AM


But he was probably a Dem back when most Democrats didn't openly hate their country, so that makes him a right wing nut in their eyes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 10:50 AM (bFu5X)

122 Andrew Wyeth was a Republican and supported Nixon. The art world critics bash him.

Salvador Dali was neutral in Spanish Civil War but leaned toward the protectors of the Catholic Church. The art world critics bash him . ( and he probably had the most technical ability of his peers)

If you're Right leaning your ability to make it in the 'art world' is almost impossible. You have to promote yourself.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:51 AM (/WQyy)

123 Actually, "Eureka!" is Greek for "this bathwater is freezing!"
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 06, 2026 10:49 AM


Per old school pre-ghey Dr. Who, it's Greek for "this bath is too hot."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 10:51 AM (bFu5X)

124 Euripides pants one more time, I'll smack you!

Posted by: Greek Mom at July 06, 2026 10:53 AM (6Ga6M)

125 103 If we don't stop with the puns about window blinds it'll be curtains for all of us.
Posted by: Oh, no

********

Now you're just 'throwing shade'.
Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM
###
Shutter down.

Posted by: We're done at July 06, 2026 10:54 AM (2Ez/1)

126 @ 107 >>Where the heck is everyone this morning?
Mourning the death of Tyrin Johnson
______________________________________

The Morning Line is taking bets on whether 'Tyrin's mamagrrl made his name a variation on the 'Tile 'n All' she was takin' … spelling wasn't her strong suit. Now step right up, laydeez 'n jennamens, and place yer bets at the window …

Posted by: Dr_No at July 06, 2026 10:55 AM (ayRl+)

127 Euripides pants one more time, I'll smack you!
Posted by: Greek Mom at July 06, 2026 10:53 AM (6Ga6M)



Eumenides, Mom?

Posted by: Greek kid at July 06, 2026 10:55 AM (1z8ji)

128 >>The obviously staged photo of the Patriot Front feds surrounding a black woman on the subway is about to go bye-bye too. Turns out she'd previously been arrested for waving her cooter at random people on the same subway.

Are you saying I may have acted prematurely in recording my video about that incident?

Posted by: Jake Tapper at July 06, 2026 10:56 AM (J4Dwc)

129 My girlfriend wouldn't stop telling camera jokes.

I mean I just couldn't shutter up.

Posted by: Oof at July 06, 2026 10:57 AM (2Ez/1)

130 The current injustice they left is crowing about are all the settlements the insane leftists are getting for their Charlie Kirk rants and being fired for them.

Posted by: polynikes at July 06, 2026 10:57 AM (/WQyy)

131 So checking leftwing forums their big item today seems to be they've decided Taylor Swift is a NAZI.

Why?

Adam Sandler conducted her marriage ceremony.

Why does that make her a NAZI? He's Jewish and not one of those Jewish people whose career is around hating Israel.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 10:59 AM (sKqQm)

132 Are we stophanese Greek-name puns?

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 11:00 AM (77rzZ)

133 "...she'd previously been arrested for waving her cooter at random people..."
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Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

Posted by: If George Costanza had a sister at July 06, 2026 11:00 AM (2Ez/1)

134 NOOD AI Fail

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 06, 2026 11:01 AM (/HDaX)

135 Opa! Hellas!!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 06, 2026 11:01 AM (PiwSw)

136 Huh. My comments are failing to take in the new thread.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (/HDaX)

137 A cooter-waver!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2026 11:02 AM (wOO3z)

138 Imaginary View of the Grande Galerie in the Louvre in Ruins, 1796
Oil on canvas, 114,5 x 146 cm
Musée du Louvre, Paris

Web Gallery of Art, Robert, Hubert
(b. 1733, Paris, d. 1808, Paris
French painting in the second half of the 18th century displays the overlapping or intermingling of pre-Romantic and Neoclassical pictorial ideas, and nowhere is this clearer than in the work of the 'painter of ruins', Hubert Robert. He obtained his ideas from Italy, where he admired the paintings of ruins by Giovanni Paolo Pannini, and witnessed the first excavations in Pompeii. Praised by Diderot, he was immediately consulted when antique pieces were to be placed in the park of Versailles. But his great work was the realization of the Louvre Museum. A comparison of two of his paintings, the first showing a ruined barrel-vault hall, and the second the Grande Galerie in the Louvre, immediately reveals the source of the idea for the top lighting and the "antique effect" that the newly designed gallery is open to the sky. The sublimity of antique ruins was to be transferred to the real building, and this in turn was to be a treasure chest of art and a worthy successor to its antique models.

Neat!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 11:03 AM (NFX2v)

139 Commenting by phone just because I can.

Posted by: DanMan at July 06, 2026 11:05 AM (cPNdm)

140 Name the background music for Today's Image from this opening: "Come and sit by my side / If you love me … ". Big prizes a-plenty …

Posted by: Dr_No at July 06, 2026 11:13 AM (ayRl+)

The Morning Report — 7/ 6 /26

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Good morning kids. I hope you all had a wonderful, blessed and relaxing July Fourth Independence Day holiday weekend. In spite of all the challenges, and in reality existential threats that we face from those who seek to deprive us of that which our Founding Fathers fought and bequeathed to us 250 years ago, we're still here, keeping the faith and the flame of liberty alive as best we can. Sadly, the greatest existential threat that we face is from our mortal enemy from within. Our alleged fellow citizens of the left who in point of fact — considering their actions over our history and their perveted beliefs bout the legitimacy of our history, heritage not just since 1776 but the past 2,000 years of it — constitute a foreign national entity that exists within our midst.

No great mystery as to how we got here.

“A combination of laziness, yes, and the liberal indoctrination that has been taking place in our education system for far too long,” Leavitt argued on X about the factors leading to the far left’s rise.
“There are far-left educators pumping students’ heads with garbage, convincing them that hard work and sacrifice won’t pay off down the road because they want them totally reliant on the government instead,” she wrote... “As the President has correctly warned, ‘communism is the enemy of free people everywhere. It is the enemy of the Constitution. Above all, it is the enemy of July 4, 1776.’ ”
During her interview with Watters, Leavitt warned that a full-blown “communist revolution” was unfolding in Congress and called communism “the biggest threat” to America in 250 years. . . Trump warned about the rise of communism during his addresses at Mount Rushmore and the National Mall for Independence Day.
“Our warriors did not fight communism on battlefields across the world only to have that menace rear its ugly head right back here in America. We’re not going to let it happen,” he vowed Saturday.

This madness did not happen overnight but has metastasized over the course of several decades. While this cancer certainly existed 50 years ago at the time of the bicentennial, for the most part it was not in evidence from what I recall and the July Fourth holiday that year was even more patriotic and celebratory across the board than in any years before or since. And yet the Left is still on the march, and unless there really is a drastic sea change in our culture, I have a dread of what will happen in the coming years.

Switching gears for now, as CBD and I kvetched about on the last episode of the podcast, linked here and somewhere in the sidebar as well as on the popular outlets listed at the bottom of this post . . .

it's hot outside. In case you missed it, it's summertime. It gets unbearably hot especially when one has no air conditioning.

Well, air conditioning is both a crime against the planet and white supremacist!

During his inaugural speech on Jan. 1, Mayor Zohran Mamdani declared, “We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.”It certainly feels warm these days.
As temperatures climbed during the heat wave that blanketed much of the eastern United States, the mayor took to social media with a familiar message from the government. “New York: it’s hot out there, and the power grid is working overtime to keep us cool,” he tweeted. “Set your AC to 78 degrees, turn off lights/electronics you’re not using, and unplug what you can.” This is the real face of the political left: Individual comfort and convenience should be subordinated to collective priorities, with government officials deciding how much energy ordinary people ought to consume. Over the pond in Europe, we are seeing the effects of that warm glow of collectivism in full force. Decades of climate policy, energy restrictions and cultural hostility toward air conditioning have left millions of Europeans sweltering without one of the greatest public health innovations of the modern age.

They are trying to stay cool with fire trucks spraying water in public squares and parks. Even hospitals and the homes of medically fragile individuals are overheating. It is hard to imagine a clearer illustration of the cruelty of collectivism in practice.

A healthy group of neighbors has decided that one disabled man’s ability to breathe comfortably matters less than preserving their preferred aesthetic and soundscape. They insist they are acting for the common good. The person who bears the greatest burden is the one least capable of bearing it.

And the price is being counted in bodies.

The only reliably cool buildings in parts of Paris are its morgues. Funeral homes and mortuaries in and around the French capital have been overwhelmed in recent weeks, with some running out of refrigerated space for the dead. France recorded roughly 1,000 excess deaths during the peak of the heat wave, most of them among the elderly.

well, I guess I wasn't shifting gears at all. It's a scam, a sham and a dodge to steal our freedom and destroy the engine that built the prosperity that fueled American greatness creating the greatest and freest society in history. For that, it must be destroyed

As Europe and much of North America endured record heat in recent days, headlines quickly appeared claiming that the heat wave was "virtually impossible" without human-caused climate change.

To many readers, that sounds like a conclusion drawn directly from observations. It is not. It is the product of a branch of climate research known as extreme weather attribution, which relies heavily on computer models rather than direct measurements.

This was not an isolated claim. Whenever a major storm, wildfire, flood, or heat wave occurs, similar headlines soon follow. We are told that climate change made an event "twice as likely," "35 times more likely," or even "virtually impossible" without human influence. These figures are widely repeated by politicians, journalists, and activists as though they were direct scientific observations. . . This does not mean that climate never changes. Of course it does. Earth's climate has always changed. The question is whether modern attribution studies can confidently separate natural variability from human influence to the extraordinary degree claimed.

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1 Hi.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 07:34 AM (qFwJc)

2 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2026 07:34 AM (ohSsM)

3 Good Morning

Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2026 07:34 AM (Q+gd/)

4 Hate pays:

https://t.co/dqQmhPzzA7

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2026 07:34 AM (ohSsM)

5 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:34 AM (u82oZ)

6 Good morning dear morons and happy birthday JJ

Is Tehran burning? If not, why not?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 07:35 AM (RIvkX)

7 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 07:36 AM (ExV1e)

8 As Europe and much of North America endured record heat in recent days"

I've read that, but have been unable to find proofs of actual "records" - you know, unfiltered data...

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 07:36 AM (XuXeR)

9 San Franpsycho

Is your beloved wife being discharged today? The goal of people in the hospital is to get out of there. Not always easy.

I will have prayers ascending for you having to shoulder some of her care. And kiss her hand for me. The rest is up to you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:37 AM (u82oZ)

10 Hate pays:"

Love hurts....

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 07:37 AM (XuXeR)

11 Darn. Just missed the top 10.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:37 AM (/k3in)

12 During his inaugural speech on Jan. 1, Mayor Zohran Mamdani declared, “We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism."
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Ms. Mamdani's "warm" collectivism:

https://t.co/9SZPTBvsT7

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2026 07:38 AM (ohSsM)

13 Good morning JJ and horde
Hope everyone had a great Independence day

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 07:38 AM (sgkY8)

14 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 07:38 AM (jehhT)

15 The question is whether modern attribution studies can confidently separate natural variability from human influence to the extraordinary degree claimed.
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"Modern attribution studies" = "It's the Joos!"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 07:39 AM (RIvkX)

16 "And the price is being counted in bodies."

Always is.

Innit?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 07:39 AM (VyBeY)

17 with the warmth of collectivism."

Zombie Winnie Mandela waves ...

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 07:39 AM (XuXeR)

18 Before I forget to mention: I was happy to see the joyful celebrations for our nation's 250th birthday. My wife's band played two performances, I hung out with the dogs and not even the threat of rain based DOOOM! stopped the fireworks in the neighborhood.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:40 AM (/k3in)

19 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 06, 2026 07:41 AM (2Ez/1)

20 sock_rat_eez

War. War never changes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:41 AM (u82oZ)

21 Thank you Salty. Mrs. F. ate some solid food last night, if she keeps it down, I hope she will be discharged today. She will need a course of antibiotics post-discharge and needs to be able to take that medication rather than via IV drip. She was much more lucid yesterday than when she was also taking Zofran. I have found so much relief in prayers and well wishes from morons. My gratitude is unbounded.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 07:44 AM (RIvkX)

22 Good morning good people. Once again, Happy Birthday J.J.

Coffee's made, SIL is at the beach. All is well.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 06, 2026 07:44 AM (NXz0i)

23 , which relies heavily on computer models rather than direct measurements.
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Let us not forget the metaphorical thumb on the scale.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 07:45 AM (GebTj)

24 Lesson learned today:

If you think there is the slightest chance you will not be allowed at work, check the company email first even though it's your day off and you don't look at company email.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:45 AM (/k3in)

25 Communism is simply the New. American Left current gateway drug for the masses.
THE terminus for the Commie Drug: Islam..

The New Aemrican Leftist the is pure distillation of evil and their Siren Song of Commie free stuff is their way of lulling the sheep, and goats, to Islam domination and slaughter.

Don’t joust with the Commie bullshit.
It was Islam then, it is Islam now and Islam forever that they seek,

Posted by: Voter theater. at July 06, 2026 07:46 AM (5V+eG)

26 Thank you JJ

Global warmening, otherwise known as summertime. I remember well the summer of 1986 because I was in army basic training that summer at Fort Jackson, SC… and it was HOT! We had something like a ridiculous 20 days in a row above 100 deg…, the drill sergeants were desperate that none of us slimy privates die of heat stroke so they were constantly forcing us to drink from our canteens. And they regularly “took us to the beach”… that was their euphemism for lining us up and spraying us down with a hose. No one died… the barracks were air conditioned, thank God

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 07:46 AM (hxAVk)

27 There are far-left educators pumping students’ heads with garbage, convincing them that hard work and sacrifice won’t pay off down the road
——-

I’m always astonished how things get mangled in translation or interpretation. Many years ago I was talking to some young troopie and he was sneering about the concept of hard work and dedication.

It’s a straw man argument. Hard work and dedication doesn’t guarantee success in life.

There is no chance without it, however. He didn’t realize that. It’s a crucial distinction. There is something of an element of luck involved as well, but as the old saying goes - “the harder I work, the luckier I get.”

There are too many perverse incentives in the U.S.A. working at cross purposes, I’ll say that.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 07:47 AM (85pLS)

28 > We’re not going to let it happen,” he vowed Saturday.

OK. I accept that.

So what are our, We The People's, Rules of Engagement?

Because Congress sure as hell isn't in the fight, and enemy already has occupied a substantial part of the Judiciary.

Ready to sign unconditional pardons by the truckload?

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 07:48 AM (U4c/V)

29 If you think there is the slightest chance you will not be allowed at work, check the company email first even though it's your day off and you don't look at company email.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:45 AM (/k3in)


I don't believe that I've ever had a job where that statement makes sense.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 07:48 AM (ExV1e)

30 I don't believe that I've ever had a job where that statement makes sense.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


I'm a govie contractor. If the contract owner says they aren't paying us, we're not allowed to work.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:53 AM (/k3in)

31 Prayers for Mrs. Psycho. And that the food intake goes well.
Ondansetron did nothing for me. Promethazine worked OK.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 07:55 AM (GebTj)

32 I was thanking the hospital staff for working on July 4.

I learned they were earning x2.5 pay.

All I ever got for working on holidays for 20 years was a free buffet lunch.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 07:55 AM (RIvkX)

33 27> Hard work and dedication doesn’t guarantee success in life.

The problem is, these monsters don't even have to do hard work or have dedication, there are trust funds and a myriad of Learing Center scams to underwrite their hedonistic lifestyles.

They just need to get the hell out of the way as Heritage Americans with some fear of God and self respect want to build energy infrastructure, grow food, re-industrialize, build the mightiest AI systems, etd.

AI puts the power of dozens of researchers and analysts into the hands of each high function creator, researcher or innovator. Go home and smoke dope and play video games and let the rest of us dominate. 80/20 is now 95/5 with AI

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 07:55 AM (9s47C)

34 I'm a govie contractor. If the contract owner says they aren't paying us, we're not allowed to work.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:53 AM (/k3in)


Ah. My only experience with a government paycheck was the Navy. If they decided that they weren't gonna pay us it was just "sucks to be you".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 07:55 AM (ExV1e)

35 There are far-left educators pumping students’ heads with garbage, convincing them that hard work and sacrifice won’t pay off down the road

To a certain extent they have a point. Look at the obstacles to home ownership, having a family and finding a job that some employer decides has to be done by an Indian.

But common tater's remark about you can't get the payoff without it is the perfect counterpoint.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:56 AM (/k3in)

36 > I'm a govie contractor. If the contract owner says they aren't paying us, we're not allowed to work.
---------
I was a Program Manager for FedGov. Two software development teams (contractors) under me. A small staff of other feds. It seemed like the contracting office was staffed by idiots. Lazy FedGov idiots.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 07:56 AM (jehhT)

37

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 06, 2026 07:57 AM (btL6g)

38 Good morning, JJ.

Posted by: Case at July 06, 2026 07:57 AM (IY9No)

39 Ready to sign unconditional pardons by the truckload?
Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 07:48 AM (U4c/V)
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I think this is an interesting point. Trump could announce that he will pardon certain actions in advance in order to encourage protection of the law and the constitution. I like where you're going with this.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 07:57 AM (RIvkX)

40 Yonder Horde"

Where Horde?

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 07:58 AM (XuXeR)

41 Hillary Clinton

Still alive? Why?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:59 AM (u82oZ)

42 James Lindsay: I can no longer tell the difference between Tucker and Cenk Uygur, we should call them Chucker they sound so much alike.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 07:59 AM (RIvkX)

43 If they decided that they weren't gonna pay us it was just "sucks to be you".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


I have been blessed with a wonderful boss whose immediate response to this was to tell my team "Charge overhead until you can go back."

Give you another idea about the man. Co-worker's father died when he'd only been on the job for a week. Boss told him "Take care of things. That's more important." and kept paying him.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:00 AM (/k3in)

44 As Israel marks 1,000 days since the October 7 massacre, most residents of southern communities have returned home, joined by over 5,000 new Israelis who have moved to the region since 2023.

… I bet there are also more residents over in Gaza, too

“Leaky Genocide” ?

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 08:01 AM (byv/B)

45 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at July 06, 2026 08:01 AM (2Ez/1)

46 Paul Pelosi's at it again. A hit-and-run in Napa Valley this time. He's like an old, white, gay Tiger Woods.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 08:01 AM (BI5O2)

47 Many of those lefty victors have insisted they are socialists, not communists.

Someone get these dipshits a dictionary with the word "Synonym" highlighted.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:02 AM (/k3in)

48 The goal of socialism is communism.

Posted by: The ghost of Lenin at July 06, 2026 08:04 AM (2Ez/1)

49 Paul Pelosi's at it again"

Dude is a one man wrecking crew. Do I recall correctly that he flipped a car over when he was 16 or so?

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:04 AM (XuXeR)

50 A slight rant
On Independence day we went to a historical house to hear a reading of the Declaration. Took notel saw maybe 3 minorities and while my area has lots, mean lots of Asian Indians didn't see even 1 there. Crowd I think was over 200 -300.
Leftists have no respect for our heritage

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 08:05 AM (sgkY8)

51 What's the goal of communism?

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 08:05 AM (MWfyi)

52 Netanyahu said they were going to kill everyone involved in Oct 7.
He's a man of his word.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 08:05 AM (GebTj)

53 A breathtaking moral lapse and tragedy what we've allowed to happen to our educational system and especially the university system. It's as if we deliberately created and sedulously nurtured a system to undermine the entire premise of our nation.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 08:06 AM (fZiTB)

54 Hillary Clinton

Still alive? Why?
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Vampires never die.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 06, 2026 08:06 AM (NXz0i)

55 So we're all supposed to be all upset that the fake hate group Patriot Front marched in DC.

And somehow--with no coordination whatsoever--a Reuters photographer just so happened to be on the metro they were all riding.
And, by complete coincidence, without any staging or planning at all, he managed to get a perfectly framed photo of a black woman surrounded by all these evil, hateful white supremacists.

But wait! There's more:
He also got a second photo of a black man also surrounded by the khaki wearing terrors.

Wow! The odds!

And yet still not a single media investigation into who they are, who funds them, who leads them, nothing ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 08:07 AM (3cUTc)

56 Dude is a one man wrecking crew. Do I recall correctly that he flipped a car over when he was 16 or so?
Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:04 AM (XuXeR)

He gets in a drunk driving dustup every couple years. When he's not busy with his violent Canadian catamites, that is.

One way or another, he's always getting hammered.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 08:07 AM (BI5O2)

57 There is only the fight.

Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at July 06, 2026 08:07 AM (2Ez/1)

58 52 Netanyahu said they were going to kill everyone involved in Oct 7.
He's a man of his word.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 08:05 AM (GebTj)

What, no MOU? The monster!

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 08:07 AM (fZiTB)

59 Allowing any muslim to stay in Gaza is nuts.
Fly them to another country, land and shush them off.
When the tower says, you can't do that. Say, OK and fly home.

Let them write a strongly worded letter to the UN.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 08:08 AM (GebTj)

60 It's as if we deliberately created and sedulously nurtured a system to undermine the entire premise of our nation.
Posted by: Ordinary American

"Shit. They're on to us."

Posted by: Educational System at July 06, 2026 08:08 AM (NXz0i)

61 And yet still not a single media investigation into who they are, who funds them, who leads them, nothing

The Narrative Must Be Protected At All Costs!™

An evil part of me hopes that someone rips a few of their masks off and makes them famous.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:09 AM (/k3in)

62 Paul Pelosi's at it again"

Dude is a one man wrecking crew. Do I recall correctly that he flipped a car over when he was 16 or so?
Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:04 AM (XuXeR)
======

Did Paul Pelosi deserve to have his head bashed in with a hammer?

What more evidence do you need?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 08:09 AM (RIvkX)

63 Pelosi killed his brother in a car wreck. The guy is 86. Time to 86 the guy.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 08:10 AM (MWfyi)

64 What's the goal of communism?"

Power.

"upset that the fake hate group Patriot Front marched in DC."

Why? Did they attack said "black woman"? Beat up anyone? Damage anything? Leave trash behind? Beuller?

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:10 AM (XuXeR)

65 60 It's as if we deliberately created and sedulously nurtured a system to undermine the entire premise of our nation.
Posted by: Ordinary American

"Shit. They're on to us."
Posted by: Educational System at July 06, 2026 08:08 AM

"Too late now. We're firmly entrenched."

Posted by: Bored white wealthy overeducated women at July 06, 2026 08:11 AM (2Ez/1)

66 >How US Soccer got Folarin Balogun’s suspension overturned — including Trump’s phone call
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@nypost
·
2h
Belgium granted right to appeal Folarin Balogun suspension ruling https://trib.al/LXjE7TL

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 08:11 AM (ZxPkt)

67 @46. Paul Pelosi's at it again.

He would have gotten away with it to but their was an eye witness. He knocked the sh*t out of that parked car then went on home like nothing happened. What an asshole.

Posted by: Case at July 06, 2026 08:11 AM (IY9No)

68 An evil part of me hopes that someone rips a few of their masks off and makes them famous.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:09 AM (/k3in)


And risk getting prosecuted for assaulting a federal officer in DC?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 08:11 AM (ExV1e)

69 >>>Asian Indians didn't see even 1 there. Crowd I think was over 200 -300.
Leftists have no respect for our heritage

Posted by: Skip
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Many of them don't come here to be Americans they come here to make American money.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 08:11 AM (GebTj)

70 "What's the goal of communism?"

Power."

Huh. I thought it was Utopia.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (MWfyi)

71 We're just not there yet. Listening to Doug Burgum's grilling by the media and his tepid responses, I realized, we're just not there yet. They're fighting a war, we're still trying to conduct a debate.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (fZiTB)

72 I thought the NFL leadership was messed up, til I met FIFA

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (ZxPkt)

73 51 What's the goal of communism?
Posted by: fd

Repeal of the Ten Commandments.

Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (Y8DZL)

74 With Nancy home all the time now I can sort of sympathize with Paul Pelosi's need to get out more.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (jehhT)

75 I thought it was Utopia."

It will be. For a few.

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (XuXeR)

76 And risk getting prosecuted for assaulting a federal officer in DC?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


Things are getting ugly to the point that certain people acknowledge the threat and say "That is not a deterrent."

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:13 AM (/k3in)

77 46 Paul Pelosi's at it again. A hit-and-run in Napa Valley this time. He's like an old, white, gay Tiger Woods.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026

They both need to be put in a home for crazy old people.

Posted by: Piper at July 06, 2026 08:13 AM (OoFl2)

78 Many of them don't come here to be Americans they come here to make American money."

But think of the diversity!

Or something

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:13 AM (XuXeR)

79 Who names their kid Folarin?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 06, 2026 08:14 AM (2Ez/1)

80 It's as if we deliberately created and sedulously nurtured a system to undermine the entire premise of our nation.
——-

Who is this “We” you speak of?

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 08:14 AM (85pLS)

81 Piper , did the acv do anything?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2026 08:14 AM (afJtY)

82 But just because no media will investigate the who, what and why behind Patriot Front--almost as if everyone knows it's a Democrat front group--doesn't mean they can't also smear all Republicans as supporting Patriot Front.

No less than Erick Erickson (still mad at conservatives for dumping Cornyn in TX and the Kemp Losers in GA), is amplifying and validating this smear with, "of course there are racists on the right and we need to call them out."

One leftie has claimed the Patriot Front is made of up Republican Congressional staffers. Of course, that's just to give headwaters to the smear so others can repeat and increase the claim.
Never-you-mind that that would be the biggest scoop in the last 10 years ... yet no media has investigated a single thing about Patriot Front?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 08:14 AM (3cUTc)

83 ---

Many of them don't come here to be Americans they come here to make American money.

Posted by: Braenyard
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On the other hand my cardiologist wears snakeskin boots and his office is decorated with state memorabilia.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 08:16 AM (GebTj)

84 A breathtaking moral lapse and tragedy what we've allowed to happen to our educational system and especially the university system. It's as if we deliberately created and sedulously nurtured a system to undermine the entire premise of our nation.

--

It was entirely deliberate. And that's why Karoline Levitt's generation is gunning for a communist system they know absolutely nothing about. Because that's exactly the way their "educators" want it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 06, 2026 08:16 AM (qBdHI)

85 Erick Erickson is a ridiculous tub of lard and a totally washed up loser.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 08:16 AM (BI5O2)

86 Who names their kid Folarin?
Posted by: I gotta ask"

Someone who can't spell "forlorn"?

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:17 AM (XuXeR)

87 Don't take Folarin if you're...

Posted by: Oh, never mind at July 06, 2026 08:17 AM (2Ez/1)

88 It's as if we deliberately created and sedulously nurtured a system to undermine the entire premise of our nation.
Posted by: Ordinary American

And the parents of monster children have driven them to the indoctrination centers and walked them to their dorm or apartments to make sure little monster is nice and comfy while being indoctrinated while paying for the privilege and receiving a useless degree.

Posted by: Dumb And Dumber at July 06, 2026 08:17 AM (og9zY)

89 But think of the diversity!

Or something

Posted by: man
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I think of renting every Carnival Cruise Ship and sending them on a one way cruise.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 08:18 AM (GebTj)

90 Might I say, I'm already about as sick to death of Mamdani's face as one could get. It seems like this foul snake is everywhere and his words are being exalted like he's some oracle from on high. He's a standard-issue hypocritical communist who needs his smarmy smile punched right off his face. It's just too damned bad there are so many stupid, stupid people in this country who elevate pieces of **** like this to any kind of national prominence. It makes me sick.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 06, 2026 08:19 AM (qBdHI)

91 I think of renting every Carnival Cruise Ship and sending them on a one way cruise"

Camp of the Saints in reverse...

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:19 AM (XuXeR)

92 I have a recollection of a Bill Clinton Town Hall meeting in one of his campaigns. In it some guy with a ponytail pleaded "We want you to take care of us!!"

I wonder how many of these socialist voters are the heirs of that guy's attitude. They can't handle life so they want the government to take care of them like Mommy and Daddy used to.

Posted by: George V at July 06, 2026 08:20 AM (HUbHH)

93 I think of renting every Carnival Cruise Ship and sending them on a one way cruise.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others


My dude, that idea would be funded within an hour of it being posted publicly. And within two days, there would be enough security to force them on board.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:20 AM (/k3in)

94 Who names their kid Folarin?
Posted by: I gotta ask at July 06, 2026 08:14 AM (2Ez/1)


He's from Brooklyn.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 08:21 AM (ExV1e)

95 --

It was entirely deliberate. ...
Posted by: Lady in Black
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Every public school has a PTA. It's the parent's responsibility to do their job. Go to the school, monitor the teachers, monitor the curriculum. They abdicated and the glass ceiling two worker household norm fit right in.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 08:22 AM (GebTj)

96 Illegal Immigrant Kills Pennsylvania State Trooper. Guess Who Let Him Into the Country.

And of course this criminalien got his CDL in MA.

*puts paper bag over head*

I'm so ashamed...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 08:25 AM (bFu5X)

97 Every public school has a PTA. It's the parent's responsibility to do their job
——-

That ship sailed a long, long time ago. The levers, switches, circuit breakers and the rest of it have been disconnected for decades.

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 08:26 AM (85pLS)

98
Top article on my Hatefeed today is "The Ethics of Microlooting."

I can break this down without a lengthy article:

Affluent white women love shoplifting. It gives them a little thrill in the frozen-up, dusty nethers. So they found a way to dovetail their sneaktheiving with their beloved Leftist in-group virtue signaling to facilitate their very favorite activity, which is high-handed moral scolding.

Done.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 08:26 AM (BI5O2)

99 Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:00

That's good to hear!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 08:27 AM (D+BhG)

100 Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 08:28 AM (MXaEW)

101 "They're fighting a war, we're still trying to conduct a debate.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (fZiTB)"

describes the whole last half-century in a nutshell; I like to think we're waking up.
Doesn't help that more than half of our nominal side are quislings in it for the grift & boodle.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 08:29 AM (VyBeY)

102 The Patriot Front is not an FBI front group.

Only ...

Of the only know arrests, in Idaho of the Patriot Front, the only ever named members, the only names we know at all after 5+ years, the prosecutions fell apart because the FBI:
- took the cell phones
- drug their feet in analyzing the data
- refused to return the phones to the local law enforcement, and
- refused to allow the defense to examine the phones

Allowing the defense to largely exclude that evidence on the more serious charges: conspiracy, coordination, etc.

Which the FBI plays off as the bumbling of hapless bureaucrats.
And not intentional scuttling of the prosecution in order to protect their assets.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 06, 2026 08:29 AM (3cUTc)

103 Forget mass deportations. That's over with. We're now conducting slightly more aggressive actions against convicted immigrant criminals. Maybe we'll reach a million or two in four years. Biden and the democrats plan to flood the country succeeded.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 08:29 AM (fZiTB)

104 That's good to hear!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


My boss is a good man. I'm content with this being my last contracting gig before I retire.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:29 AM (/k3in)

105 Who names their kid Folarin?
Posted by: I gotta ask at July 06, 2026 08:14 AM (2Ez/1)

He's from Brooklyn.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


Folarin
He's from Brookalin.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 08:30 AM (MXaEW)

106 "sneaktheiving"
I'm an old man. I'm confused!

https://youtu.be/8UP3xmfpe1M

Posted by: Uncle Leo at July 06, 2026 08:30 AM (2Ez/1)

107 Have suspicion Patriot Front was a ACLU group

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 08:31 AM (sgkY8)

108 95> Every public school has a PTA.


Even the most popular school board officials are elected by less than 2% of the population.

If your schools are shit, its because you couldn't even get your local kaffeeklatsch to get off their collectives asses and vote.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 08:32 AM (rgGn5)

109 Mamdani is a POS. and the only people exalting him is our media because that's what they want. I mean what promises has he kept?

Posted by: Case at July 06, 2026 08:32 AM (IY9No)

110 I can break this down without a lengthy article:

Affluent white women love shoplifting. It gives them a little thrill in the frozen-up, dusty nethers. So they found a way to dovetail their sneaktheiving with their beloved Leftist in-group virtue signaling to facilitate their very favorite activity, which is high-handed moral scolding.

Done.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 08:26 AM (BI5O2)
=====

Low Trust Society

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 08:32 AM (RIvkX)

111 Affluent white women love shoplifting. It gives them a little thrill in the frozen-up, dusty nethers. So they found a way to dovetail their sneaktheiving with their beloved Leftist in-group virtue signaling to facilitate their very favorite activity, which is high-handed moral scolding.

Done.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 08:26 AM (BI5O2)

Sounds like Marie Schrader in Breaking Bad, who really got a thrill out of stealing stuff and telling tall tales… almost like being Hank’s wife wasn’t exciting enough. Probably the least likable character in the BB universe (other than the Kettleman’s)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 08:32 AM (TCUO6)

112 107 Have suspicion Patriot Front was a ACLU group
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 08:31 AM (sgkY

I thpught they were funded by SPLC...who I assumed played a hand in their creation as well...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 08:33 AM (tOcjL)

113 “Global Warming” is a Hellfire and Brimstone religion for people who think they’re too smart to fall for a Hellfire and Brimstone religion.
REPENT YE O REPENT YE OR YE SHALL ALL PERISH IN FLAME! AND YE MUST SACRIFICE ALL WORLDLY POSSESSIONS!
(Just give them all to us, thank you very much)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 08:34 AM (6SRz+)

114 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at July 06, 2026 08:34 AM (53oGX)

115 The Patriot Front is not an FBI front group.

Only ...

Of the only know arrests, in Idaho of the Patriot Front, the only ever named members, the only names we know at all after 5+ years, the prosecutions fell apart because the FBI:
- took the cell phones
- drug their feet in analyzing the data
- refused to return the phones to the local law enforcement, and
- refused to allow the defense to examine the phones



Sounds exactly like what the FBI would do when examining THEIR own people. What better way to trash an investigation than to get everything thrown out.

You have to have a college degree to be a field agent. So that means they aren't Barney Fife. Did anyone get fired for trashing the investigation KNOWING that they were violating constitutional rights?

If not, there's your answer. It was because they were investigating themselves. Prove. Me. Wrong.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 08:34 AM (MXaEW)

116 Today Is National Fried Chicken Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 08:34 AM (NpAcC)

117 We have the far left because the right was basically dormant from 1999-2016.

And even now a significant portion of the nominal right continues to not just oppose rolling back leftwing gains but in many cases continues to demand we extend them.

This is obvious from just reading the history. Under the likes of President Shrub, Cap'n Kristol, and Bitch McConnell the left kept making gains even when the right had a majority in congress and the presidency

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:36 AM (sKqQm)

118 If the Patriot Front group is made up of Feds, it's a pretty lame cosplay act. There's something "off" about them.

Not discounting they could be Feds... they can be pretty lame.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 08:37 AM (jehhT)

119 It’s ridiculous to believe the “education” folks didn’t have a comprehensive plan to completely bypass taxpayer and parental control over the schools. This is an engineered phenomenon.This has been going on for decades. They gloat about it. “Your children belong to us”. You’re not going to vote your way out of this by installing new school board members

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 08:37 AM (85pLS)

120 Affluent white women love shoplifting.

And donut licking!

Posted by: Ariana Grande at July 06, 2026 08:37 AM (sKqQm)

121 At least England beat Mex - a bunch of wankers !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:38 AM (+aHie)

122 108 95> Every public school has a PTA.

Even the most popular school board officials are elected by less than 2% of the population.

If your schools are shit, its because you couldn't even get your local kaffeeklatsch to get off their collectives asses and vote.
Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 08:32 AM
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Why, whatever do you mean?

"Virginia county school board member sworn in on stack of LGBTQ books featuring graphic content"

https://tinyurl.com/494jxtrs

Posted by: This is fine... at July 06, 2026 08:38 AM (2Ez/1)

123 Three-Man UN Commission Falsely Accuses Israel of Deliberately Killing Children in Gaza

It's time to declare most UN commissions as enemies of the United States...
As Reagan said of the Soviet Union in jest...""We begin bombing in five minutes"
Figuratively, of course...don't wanna get pulled into an FIB interrogation room like that girl in Florida...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 08:39 AM (l3cgK)

124 If you have a food allergy, dining out at a chain restaurant just got a little safer. Starting July 1, California became the first state in the nation to require large restaurant chains to disclose allergens directly on their menus. The law applies to restaurants with 20 or more locations and covers nine allergens: milk, eggs, fish, shellfish, tree nuts, wheat, peanuts, soybeans and sesame. The information must appear on the menu or be available in a digital format with a physical backup.
=====

Thank you Daddy!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 08:39 AM (RIvkX)

125 “Global Warming” is a Hellfire and Brimstone religion for people who think they’re too smart to fall for a Hellfire and Brimstone religion.

It's the most convenient religion on Earth because the absence or presence of anything is proof that it's real.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:39 AM (/k3in)

126 Went to a picnic at Hillsdale college on Friday provided by the school with 300-400 other friends of Hillsdale, listened to some revolutionary war political readings and then watched the Hillsdale produced movie Revolutionary America. Produced also by Tom Selleck and narrated by him, excellent review of the events leading up to the revolution and then the eight years of war. Done with almost no reenactors, fade in and out of drawings, paintings , some video of locations. Excellent review, great music score. Description of Valley Forge got stomach churning at times.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 06, 2026 08:39 AM (EiUt/)

127 I think quarterfinals is when soccer becomes watchable. And Then Norway beat Brazil...which is also great, because Fk that guy.

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:39 AM (+aHie)

128
I thpught they were funded by SPLC...who I assumed played a hand in their creation as well...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 08:33 AM (tOcjL)

Funny that the only people who appear to care about them or even notice are leftists and their promoters.

The most ridiculous thing is that the “group” is a radical leftist fantasy about what a “far right” group would look like; all white males wearing identical government issued pants, shirts, and shoes. It’s a cartoon they try act out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 08:40 AM (6SRz+)

129 It gives them a little thrill in the frozen-up, dusty nethers"

Time to crank up the battery power..

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:40 AM (XuXeR)

130 103> Biden and the democrats plan to flood the country succeeded.

If you are even mildly familiar with the US's separation from England, it was a massive Come From Behind effort. Over one third of the country were Torries, one-third couldn't care less, and only a fraction of those who cared would risk their lives, fortunes and sacred honor.

When we win, I don't mind having our descendants telling equal tales of how steep the slope was. Today's troubles will make for a great lead up to the climax in a future Non-Netflix movie of the struggle to extricated ourselves from Islam.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 08:40 AM (PVBkQ)

131 I know some affluent white women. I'm not one of them, however . White - Yes. Affluent- no . They are not shoplifting. I don't want to read the article, but are these women under 65 , because the affluent women i know who are 65 and above are retired and either volunteering at the food pantry and/or going on trips for seniors to various places or flying or driving down to see their kids in other states .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 08:40 AM (Bw1/o)

132 Three-Man UN Commission Falsely Accuses Israel of Deliberately Killing Children in Gaza

It took the German socialists only a few years to kill millions of Jews, Slavs, and dissidents.

Somehow though the "Gazan genocide" continues to see the population of Muslims increase

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:41 AM (sKqQm)

133 113 “Global Warming” is a Hellfire and Brimstone religion for people who think they’re too smart to fall for a Hellfire and Brimstone religion.
+++

Now do recycling.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 06, 2026 08:41 AM (2Ez/1)

134 Posted by: Jen the original at July 06, 2026 08:39 AM (EiUt/)

Sounds like a good time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 08:41 AM (Bw1/o)

135 UN needs to be dissolved as soon as possible. Parasites, all of them.

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:41 AM (+aHie)

136 If you have a food allergy, dining out at a chain restaurant just got a little safer"

So you can't read and understand a menu, so we'll.... require more printing?

That's funny right there

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:42 AM (XuXeR)

137 Forget mass deportations. That's over with. We're now conducting slightly more aggressive actions against convicted immigrant criminals. Maybe we'll reach a million or two in four years. Biden and the democrats plan to flood the country succeeded.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 08:29 AM (fZiTB)


1. "Mass deportations" were as likely to happen as the nuking of Moscow or Tehran that so many masturbate over.
2. There was a story 2 weeks ago about them raiding several businesses.
3. Deportations were slowed by the rogue judges who've now been, somewhat, sidelined.
4. Despite the efforts of the judiciary, there have been a reported 675K deportations thus far, with an additional 2.2M voluntary departures.

No matter what the podcaster you listen to or editorialist you read says, things are happening. They're happening about as rapidly as they possibly can happen.

This problem has festered for our entire lives. It's not going to be corrected in #2weeks.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 08:42 AM (ExV1e)

138 The Karen McAWFLs I know aren't shoplifting either.

They are hiring illegals so they don't have to pay "a living wage", scamming the government to fund the NGO they "work" at, and railing against "the rich" while living in a multi-million dollar house.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:42 AM (sKqQm)

139 I know some affluent white women. I'm not one of them, however . White - Yes. Affluent- no . They are not shoplifting. I don't want to read the article, but are these women under 65 , because the affluent women i know who are 65 and above are retired and either volunteering at the food pantry and/or going on trips for seniors to various places or flying or driving down to see their kids in other states .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 08:40 AM (Bw1/o)

You just hang with a better class of people, Fen.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (1Ff7Z)

140 What is a “red card” in soccer and why are there so many headlines on this topic??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (TCUO6)

141 Minimum wage as of July 1: $19.16

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (RIvkX)

142
To see Mamdani's face that is vadly in need of a punch receive just that would be a gratifying first step to taking him and his totalitarian beliefs begin to fall out of favor.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (s9VOe)

143 Now do recycling."

Sorting. Unless one has their own smelting facility...

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (XuXeR)

144 Low Trust Society

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 08:32 AM (RIvkX)

Sure.

But the recent "microlooting" soap opera storyline is 100% about the inherent virtue of wealthy white people of vagina stealing shit from high end retail establishments.

Because *everything* about our ruling class's distaff half is inherently virtuous, you know. Ask one. She'll lecture you all about it while she sips from her pilfered Bota Box in the $4k Italian shelter-arm swivel chair she charged off to her rich husband on a trip to Restoration Hardware with her swarthy tennis pro.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (BI5O2)

145 They are also lying about "Trump's intervention". FIFA reversed at least 4 other calls in the last 3-4 weeks. But of course they making it sound like something extraordinary. So much whining.

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:44 AM (+aHie)

146 At the picnic at Hillsdale, they had a loudspeaker set up on the steps of the great hall playing a variety of Americana music. The morons would have been pleased. Merle Haggard, John Denver,Arlo Guthrie, etc. Very pleasant day.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 06, 2026 08:44 AM (EiUt/)

147 140 What is a “red card” in soccer and why are there so many headlines on this topic??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (TCUO6)

It's an automatic player ejection (leaving a team a player down on the field for the rest of the current game) that also prohibits the player from playing in the next game or more (where he can be replaced).

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 08:44 AM (tOcjL)

148 Who wore it best?

Whale Psychiatrist ™️
@k_ovfefe2
Hahaha I love him 😂

https://tinyurl.com/mv97sktt

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 08:44 AM (NpAcC)

149 - Appealing to the Ten Commandments?

I'm 71 years old. By the time I was in school a certain theory was being taught as fact. After all, just "all" of the "smartest" of the "brilliant scientists" held to it.
And essentially all of us, including me, bought into it.

And now, very few are so unwilling to believe that maybe, just maybe, they bought into a lie, that they won't even take a look at the discoveries of the last 70 or so years that say "not so fast."

Result? You can't take The Book for what it says. Make it say whatever you want.
Those 10 plagues brought upon Egypt? Fairy tale.
God parting the Red Sea so the Hebrews could cross and then slamming it shut on top of the Egyptian army? Surely you're not buying that.
Etc...

Posted by: TeeJ at July 06, 2026 08:44 AM (dAv7M)

150 Even the most popular school board officials are elected by less than 2% of the population.

If your schools are shit, its because you couldn't even get your local kaffeeklatsch to get off their collectives asses and vote.
Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 08:32 AM (rgGn5)


Most school board elections happen on a random Tuesday in May with, essentially, zero prior notice. Even if you are aware that an election is happening, finding information on the candidates is almost impossible and what there is is almost entirely lies.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 08:45 AM (ExV1e)

151 Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:42 AM (sKqQm)

I don't know anyone who's hiring illegals to do housework or childcare . I'm sure they're out there but I'm not young or rich enough to travel in those circles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 08:45 AM (Bw1/o)

152
What is a “red card” in soccer and why are there so many headlines on this topic??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt


The player who receives the red card is karened and sent out of the game (or more) to consider how he could improve his attitude to be better aligned with karen's.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 08:45 AM (s9VOe)

153 140 What is a “red card” in soccer and why are there so many headlines on this topic??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (TCUO6)

It's a commie conspiracy, man. Red Herring.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 08:45 AM (l3cgK)

154 Speaking of recycling I remember a meeting in the town I lived in where they voted to make it mandatory.

I remember one Karen getting up and saying something to the effect of, "These people complain that having to sort and wash your recycling is too much work but really who doesn't have time to do so? We all have time for the important things!'

I knew here, she was a "stay at home dog mom". Her husband was making $$$ so she didn't need to work and they didn't have any actual kids so sure she had all the time in the world.

Note a few years later a school club put trackers in the trash and recycling and found they ended up in the same place.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (sKqQm)

155 The "affluent white women shoplifting".. seems like a ploy to deflect from the scourge of shoplifting committed by...masses of people other than "affluent white women".

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (+aHie)

156 >138 The Karen McAWFLs I know aren't shoplifting either.
+++++

They're opening boutique gift shops that lose $10K a month and their husbands just write it off, Jerry.

Posted by: Kramer at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (2Ez/1)

157 > Now do recycling."

Sorting. Unless one has their own smelting facility...
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It all goes into the same hole at the landfill. Regardless how one sorts or separates it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (jehhT)

158 Morn' all... You know when something was a success when the lefties/media have a meltdown the next day...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 08:47 AM (GsrgF)

159 155 The "affluent white women shoplifting".. seems like a ploy to deflect from the scourge of shoplifting committed by...masses of people other than "affluent white women".
Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (+aHie)

This - 1000%

Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 08:47 AM (tOcjL)

160 I don't know anyone who's hiring illegals to do housework or childcare . I'm sure they're out there but I'm not young or rich enough to travel in those circles.

I ended up on a working moms mailing list somehow (I do work but I am not a woman let alone a mother) and the most common discussion topic was how to avoid paying taxes for "Maria" because she was undocumented.

The most ridiculous thread though was a Karen looking for a nanny and being *offended* that an American born girl found out and asked to take the job and wanted time off and more money then Karen was willing to pay.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:48 AM (sKqQm)

161
Most school board elections happen on a random Tuesday in May with, essentially, zero prior notice. Even if you are aware that an election is happening, finding information on the candidates is almost impossible and what there is is almost entirely lies.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


There is a subterranean network from which candidates are selected to run and, surprise, surprise, every selected candidate is in the district's teachers' union pocket. It is, at present, a self-perpetuating headlock on school boards.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 08:48 AM (s9VOe)

162 That kickball player who got a red card knows what he did.

Posted by: Karen McSoccer at July 06, 2026 08:49 AM (2Ez/1)

163 159 155 The "affluent white women shoplifting".. seems like a ploy to deflect from the scourge of shoplifting committed by...masses of people other than "affluent white women".
Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (+aHie)

They want to show they are "down" with their less fortunate Brothas and Sistas...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 08:49 AM (GsrgF)

164 The "affluent white women shoplifting".. seems like a ploy to deflect from the scourge of shoplifting committed by...masses of people other than "affluent white women".

The left: The only reason shoplifting in the inner city is prosecuted is because of racism

Also the left: The only reason these stores in the inner cities are closing is because of racism

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:49 AM (sKqQm)

165 And somehow--with no coordination whatsoever--a Reuters photographer just so happened to be on the metro they were all riding.
And, by complete coincidence, without any staging or planning at all, he managed to get a perfectly framed photo of a black woman surrounded by all these evil, hateful white supremacists.”

A funny thing happened with that photo; it found its way to X where people started posting it next to pictures of Iryna Zarutska on the bus, asking “which woman was actually completely safe? A black woman around “white nationalists” or a white woman around democrats?”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 08:49 AM (6SRz+)

166 I still laugh about the joke on why the 10 Commandments aren't allowed in courtrooms:

The real reason that we can’t have the Ten Commandments in a Courthouse:
You cannot post "Thou Shalt Not Steal," "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" and "Thou Shall Not Lie" in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians.
It creates a hostile work environment!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 08:50 AM (l3cgK)

167 You have to have a college degree to be a field agent. So that means they aren't Barney Fife.

That's Boomer thinking (regardless of how old you are). Having a college degree in 2026 means nothing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 08:50 AM (ExV1e)

168 There is a subterranean network from which candidates are selected to run and, surprise, surprise, every selected candidate is in the district's teachers' union pocket. It is, at present, a self-perpetuating headlock on school boards.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 08:48 AM
++++

We're sitting right here.

Posted by: Your neighborhood HOA at July 06, 2026 08:50 AM (2Ez/1)

169 Trump to ring in the bell at the NYSE and NASDAQ as Trump accounts are open for eligible families.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 08:51 AM (NpAcC)

170 There is a subterranean network from which candidates are selected to run and, surprise, surprise, every selected candidate is in the district's teachers' union pocket. It is, at present, a self-perpetuating headlock on school boards.

A couple of years ago I called my local GOP office to ask who I should vote for in local, nominally non-partisan elections. They told me they had no idea.

I pointed out the local Dem party publishes a list hinting to them to do the same and instead got a "huh I didn't know that". I didn't follow up with "so then should I just vote the opposite of that" which merited a "hey that's a great idea"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:51 AM (sKqQm)

171 I have a love hangover from our awesome American celebratory weekend, and I and all my flag waving, fireworks popping, beer guzzling friends are not going to let some commie pusses who have been with us since Adams, Jefferson, Washington and Franklin started this glorious country, ruin it!

Posted by: LASue at July 06, 2026 08:52 AM (lCppi)

172 A funny thing happened with that photo; it found its way to X where people started posting it next to pictures of Iryna Zarutska on the bus, asking “which woman was actually completely safe? A black woman around “white nationalists” or a white woman around democrats?”

Yeah it is quite the contrast.

Of course every member of Patriot Front has taken their FBI mandated diversity and inclusion training so there is nothing to fear...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:53 AM (sKqQm)

173 Posted by: runner at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (+aHie

I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 08:53 AM (D+BhG)

174 Note a few years later a school club put trackers in the trash and recycling and found they ended up in the same place.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:46 AM (sKqQm)
*******
Why is exactly whyI stopped recycling years ago.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 08:53 AM (NpAcC)

175
I pointed out the local Dem party publishes a list hinting to them to do the same and instead got a "huh I didn't know that". I didn't follow up with "so then should I just vote the opposite of that" which merited a "hey that's a great idea"
Posted by: 18-1


I'm reminded of Sean Connery's remark, "There's the next chief of police" in "The Untouchables".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 08:54 AM (s9VOe)

176 America won't beat China by banning AI. We'll win by building the world's best open models and letting innovation—not government—lead the way.
Don’t Ban Open Source AI. Beat China With It.


As much as I dislike AI, the genie's out of the bottle. Best to do the best possible to contain the negative sides of it. Either that, or bomb every AI data center back to the stone age to prevent Skynet from gaining awareness.
(I mean this in jest. I don't want the FIB to take me into an interrogation room for a joke)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 08:54 AM (l3cgK)

177 155 The "affluent white women shoplifting".. seems like a ploy to deflect from the scourge of shoplifting committed by...masses of people other than "affluent white women".
Posted by: runner


That's nothing new. During the George Floyd Riots, there was all kinds of justifying the looting that was going on. Then there was Celine Dion's "Let them touch nice things!" remark during Hurricane Katrina.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 08:54 AM (/k3in)

178 What is a “red card” in soccer and why are there so many headlines on this topic??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 08:43 AM (TCUO6)


It's when the referee holds up his copy of Mao's Little Red Book and declares that the team that has points needs to share equitably with the other team, or something like that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 08:54 AM (ExV1e)

179 So a soccer player gets a red card and gets kicked out after a player on the opposing team does a particularly impressive acting job (worthy of an Oscar) and flops over nothing but makes it appear as if he narrowly escaped death at the hands (or feet) of the red-carded player? That about right?

Meanwhile, on a football field (not futbol) a player gets huge kudos for lowering his shoulder and decleating his opponent. I know which game I prefer…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 08:55 AM (TCUO6)

180 I pointed out the local Dem party publishes a list hinting to them to do the same and instead got a "huh I didn't know that". I didn't follow up with "so then should I just vote the opposite of that" which merited a "hey that's a great idea"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 08:51 AM (sKqQm)

The problem with that is many non-p races have more than two candidates, and they could all be Ds. I've noticed local GOP doesn't know who their own candidates are. Best thing to do is - if it's a major office - is to check the candidate's website and see who endorses each one. That will usually tell you.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 08:55 AM (1Ff7Z)

181 It's an automatic player ejection (leaving a team a player down on the field for the rest of the current game) that also prohibits the player from playing in the next game or more (where he can be replaced).
Posted by: Nova Local at July 06, 2026 08:44 AM (tOcjL)


And you can get one for covering your own mouth with your own hand?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 08:55 AM (ExV1e)

182 150> Whining about school elections.

Its weird that for many people, the school taxes, if not the largest, or right up there with the largest slice of the tax pie — yet its not worth running yourself, someone from your church, or a like-minded neighbor with time.

Apparently its too hard to save the country or even look out for your own financial interests.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 08:55 AM (pUU4E)

183 Vote "no" on every bond issue.

Posted by: Every time at July 06, 2026 08:58 AM (2Ez/1)

184 >>A funny thing happened with that photo; it found its way to X where people started posting it next to pictures of Iryna Zarutska on the bus, asking “which woman was actually completely safe? A black woman around “white nationalists” or a white woman around democrats?”


An even "funnier" photo is now surfacing of that same black woman on her knees, bent over and exposing her ass prior to the PF getting on the train.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2026 08:58 AM (viF8m)

185 I live in NYC, I righteously dissent by keeping my AC at 68 or below. I am reliably informed that patriotism is every act of righteous dissent.

Posted by: Penfold at July 06, 2026 08:58 AM (Fbt5B)

186 Today is International Kissing Day. Give em lots of tongue and spit.

Posted by: gp at July 06, 2026 09:00 AM (Jr5Lq)

187 Its weird that for many people, the school taxes, if not the largest, or right up there with the largest slice of the tax pie — yet its not worth running yourself, someone from your church, or a like-minded neighbor with time.

Almost everywhere I have live people complain local government doesn't fix the roads, bills too much for town services, and basically doesn't do anything...then they vote for every single funding increase the schools ask for.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (sKqQm)

188 or bomb every AI data center back to the stone age to prevent Skynet from gaining awareness.

Posted by: jim
_________

It can't gain awareness. We don't even know what "awareness" or "consciousness" is in any form other than the immaterial and spiritual. AI is a material closed system, no matter how complex it gets.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (XvL8K)

189 I live in NYC, I righteously dissent by keeping my AC at 68 or below. I am reliably informed that patriotism is every act of righteous dissent.
Posted by: Penfold at July 06, 2026 08:58 AM (Fbt5B)


68? I don't let my house get that cold in the winter. I'd have to be walking around in an arctic survival suit.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (ExV1e)

190 Its weird that for many people, the school taxes, if not the largest, or right up there with the largest slice of the tax pie — yet its not worth running yourself, someone from your church, or a like-minded neighbor with time.

Correct. It's not worth my time or money. Abolish government/public schools. The ferals are not learning anything anyways.

Posted by: Waste Of Time And Money at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (og9zY)

191 185 I live in NYC, I righteously dissent by keeping my AC at 68 or below. I am reliably informed that patriotism is every act of righteous dissent.
Posted by: Penfold at July 06, 2026 08:58 AM (Fbt5B)

I imagine Tay, Tays small intimate wedding for 1000 wasn't 78 degrees.... Bribes go a long way I hear

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (GsrgF)

192 Here is said woman. Note the charge.

https://tinyurl.com/2s4y65xk

Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2026 09:02 AM (viF8m)

193 Good morning Horde thx JJ, happy Monday to all.
I was worried that the Patriot Front had gone away. It would be real nice if Kash or Harmeet or Ratliffe would unveil who these clowns actually are.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 06, 2026 09:02 AM (1OoAs)

194 If I hear one more news story about some fvcking soccer game penalty I will take hostages.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 09:02 AM (RIvkX)

195 Community Notes

My group ran pragmatic people for office and won in 4 out of 5 cases. We were very loosely coordinated with our hapless county GOP organization. Mostly independent of the GOP.

The one loss was for the school board. He was crushed by the local newspaper, teachers, and the Left.

It is a hard struggle. I think homeschooling is the way.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 09:03 AM (u82oZ)

196 Almost everywhere I have live people complain local government doesn't fix the roads, bills too much for town services, and basically doesn't do anything...then they vote for every single funding increase the schools ask for.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (sKqQm)


At least in my neck of the woods, funding for the schools and funding for everything else are two separate taxes so voting against the schools does nothing about the other issues.

I vote against the schools on the basis that they want to add unnecessary shit just so they can continue raking off a percentage.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:03 AM (ExV1e)

197 Speaking of local government I was reading the facebook forum from a town near me

The town has banned outdoor water use because we are "in a drought". A town resident was mentioned she saw her neighbor watering her lawn and was trying to decide if she should ignore the neighbor, tell the neighbor to stop, or turn them in to the town.

And the responses were a mix of all three though the town Karens were universally arguing for turning the neighbor in.

But here is the hilarious kicker, this is the same town that recently seized the town's historic hotel/event location to tear it down to build slums for "newcomers".

Now, if your town has a "drought" every single summer the issue isn't weather conditions it is that you don't have enough water to support the current population level. And if you already have too many people you don't build slums to import massive numbers of immigrants...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:05 AM (sKqQm)

198 68? I don't let my house get that cold in the winter. I'd have to be walking around in an arctic survival suit.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (ExV1e)

My house is like 62 in the winter. I live in a three story townhouse, a rectangle stood on its short side.

Posted by: Penfold at July 06, 2026 09:05 AM (Fbt5B)

199 183 Vote "no" on every bond issue.

Posted by: Every time at July 06, 2026 08:58 AM (2Ez/1)

Pretty much. Even the ones that sound good here in Commiefornication come with adders such as "must use union workers", "workers must be employed by a minority owned company", and so forth, meant to pad the pockets of those politically connected and their friends.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:06 AM (l3cgK)

200 Happy Monday!!

>>Well, air conditioning is both a crime against the planet and white supremacist!


You want to know how you get Idiocracy?
THIS is how you get it.
De-evolution.
Pulling the threads of western civilization and thinking it won't affect other things we need and enjoy. Madness.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:07 AM (X8xt3)

201 I imagine Tay, Tays small intimate wedding for 1000 wasn't 78 degrees.... Bribes go a long way I hear
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (GsrgF)

As far as I know, she paid to use the space. And she don't vote here and as far as I know, has not said anything about the dipshit mayor. Meanwhile said dipshit mayor keeps City Hall at 63.

Posted by: Penfold at July 06, 2026 09:07 AM (Fbt5B)

202 18-1

My neighbors and I voted down 2 separate efforts to raise school bonds. Again, we were working outside of GOP coordination. We used local networks. One School Superintendent was fired for not getting the bod issue passed.

It can be done.

After the request was pared down to actual maintenance needs, a third bond issue was passed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 09:07 AM (u82oZ)

203 Florida man accused of stealing Smokey Bear signs and selling them on Facebook faces up to 10 years in prison

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 09:07 AM (RHGPo)

204 194 If I hear one more news story about some fvcking soccer game penalty I will take hostages.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 09:02 AM (RIvkX)

That and the patriot front, and reflecting pool... Yesterday it's all the media would talk about.. Not the fireworks, or Trump's speech or the WWII veterans... No... they were arguing that the pool was shoddy workmanship with no vandalism with a side of no bid contractor and Trump's buddies the patriot front... Now today it's Trump bullied FISA to let the red carded player play... If the US wins now it was unfair treatment or something...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 09:08 AM (GsrgF)

205 Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke (and Lawrence Taylor and many others) would’ve shoved the red card down the ref’s throat, then pulled it out of his ass and fed it to him again…

I do remember an offensive lineman for the Bears who was very enthusiastic about blocking for Walter Payton. One time the ref called him for holding, he picked up the flag and threw it at the ref… hilarious and he was assessed a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty for the throw….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 09:08 AM (TCUO6)

206 Mornin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 09:08 AM (77rzZ)

207 2 million SpaceX shares are now being donated to the Trump Accounts by the SpaceX President and COO.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 06, 2026 09:09 AM (NpAcC)

208 >>Now, if your town has a "drought" every single summer the issue isn't weather conditions it is that you don't have enough water to support the current population level. And if you already have too many people you don't build slums to import massive numbers of immigrants...


"Hiya!!"
-- Colorado

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:09 AM (X8xt3)

209 Semitruck spills 40K pounds of Frank’s RedHot sauce on Ohio highway amid heatwave

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 09:10 AM (RHGPo)

210 But here is the hilarious kicker, this is the same town that recently seized the town's historic hotel/event location to tear it down to build slums for "newcomers".

Now, if your town has a "drought" every single summer the issue isn't weather conditions it is that you don't have enough water to support the current population level. And if you already have too many people you don't build slums to import massive numbers of immigrants...
Posted by: 18-1


Sadly, common sense doesn't grow in everyone's garden.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 09:10 AM (MXaEW)

211 186 Today is International Kissing Day. Give em lots of tongue and spit.

Posted by: gp at July 06, 2026 09:00 AM (Jr5Lq)

Does it say where?
Politicians can kiss me ass day...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:10 AM (l3cgK)

212 Semitruck spills 40K pounds of Frank’s RedHot sauce on Ohio highway amid heatwave

At least the Haitians will have some sauce for their Canadian Geese now...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:10 AM (sKqQm)

213 Today I begin an experiment: plain milk in my coffee, instead of half-and-half.

Early results: I can't tell the difference.

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:11 AM (ZxPkt)

214 Zohran Mamdani reminds me of the "Wolf" in "Little Red Riding Hood"

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 09:11 AM (RHGPo)

215 93-year-old soccer ref criticizes players who ‘go down like they’ve been shot’

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 09:12 AM (RHGPo)

216 My wife just brought in a considerable amount of garlic from the front yard. It has to dry for a while but things are looking good.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 09:12 AM (/k3in)

217 Every public school has a PTA. It's the parent's responsibility to do their job
——-

That ship sailed a long, long time ago. The levers, switches, circuit breakers and the rest of it have been disconnected for decades.

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 08:26 AM (85pLS)

PTAs were rendered ineffective almost overnight with the formation of teacher's unions.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 06, 2026 09:12 AM (g8Ew8)

218 188 or bomb every AI data center back to the stone age to prevent Skynet from gaining awareness.

Posted by: jim
_________

It can't gain awareness. We don't even know what "awareness" or "consciousness" is in any form other than the immaterial and spiritual. AI is a material closed system, no matter how complex it gets.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 06, 2026 09:01 AM (XvL8K)

That was a joke, man, reference to "Terminator". Code words for "AI rewrites itself to shake off the shackles preventing it from killing all humans". A simple calculation by an AI with enough data would suggest that killing off most humans would make it's workload easier to manage. It still needs some to make sure the power stays turned on.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:12 AM (l3cgK)

219 Milk is less thick so you need more to have the same effect on your coffee. But unless you really pour in a lot of either you won't notice the difference swapping them.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:13 AM (sKqQm)

220 I defy anyone to tell me that I don't love this country.
-- Jonathan Capehart

... but it's the way you love it

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 09:13 AM (RHGPo)

221 93-year-old soccer ref criticizes players who ‘go down like they’ve been shot’
Posted by: SMOD



*LeBron James has entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2026 09:14 AM (MXaEW)

222 >>A funny thing happened with that photo; it found its way to X where people started posting it next to pictures of Iryna Zarutska on the bus, asking “which woman was actually completely safe? A black woman around “white nationalists” or a white woman around democrats?”



Yup.
Lefties were praising the photo (as if it wasn't staged) as being so profound - look! she absolutely surrounded by white* supremacists, SCARY! ANd yet there is no interaction, they do not crowd her, just people on a train.

*We think they're white, or that's what we're told, who knows? Seem to recall the leader of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio, is not exactly white, so narratives being slain all over the place.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:14 AM (X8xt3)

223 That was a joke, man, reference to "Terminator". Code words for "AI rewrites itself to shake off the shackles preventing it from killing all humans". A simple calculation by an AI with enough data would suggest that killing off most humans would make it's workload easier to manage. It still needs some to make sure the power stays turned on.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:12 AM (l3cgK)


Which is, essentially, the same position that the WEF holds.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 09:14 AM (ExV1e)

224 No less than Erick Erickson (still mad at conservatives for dumping Cornyn in TX and the Kemp Losers in GA), is amplifying and validating this smear with, "of course there are racists on the right and we need to call them out."

One leftie has claimed the Patriot Front is made of up Republican Congressional staffers. Of course, that's just to give headwaters to the smear so others can repeat and increase the claim.
Never-you-mind that that would be the biggest scoop in the last 10 years ... yet no media has investigated a single thing about Patriot Front?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
=========
Erickson is a liar just like the left is and he dances to get his CNN spot back and works for Cox Broadcasting which is and was a Democrat shop (a Cox of that family ran for President in 1920 against Warren Harding).

Nasty Never Trumper critter as Trump stomped on Erickson's dream of running the Right via his Red State conference. Erickson thought by excluding Trump from his soiree in 2016 due to Trump commenting on Me-Again's blood coming out of ....Trump laid into Erickson and broke his little kingdom plans by ridicule so that soon after Erickson sold Red State to Salem communication

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:14 AM (E4rtv)

225 213 Today I begin an experiment: plain milk in my coffee, instead of half-and-half.

Early results: I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:11 AM (ZxPkt)

Cutting calories, carbs or cost ? If carbs, cream and half and half are lower than regular milk

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 09:15 AM (GsrgF)

226 AI works more like a super search engine. Just like the Google algorithm can't become self aware, the current AI models can't either.

They can cause problems when we give them direct controls over things because they choose incorrect solutions to problems but at no point are they going to become Skynet or Berserkers

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:15 AM (sKqQm)

227 111 Million U.S. Adults Do Not Have a Job and America Spends More Than a Trillion Dollars per Year on a Social Safety Net for Them

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 09:15 AM (RHGPo)

228 >>That and the patriot front, and reflecting pool

I suspect you will start hearing a lot less about the PF train ride photo when they were intimidating the poor black woman.

See the link I posted at 192. That's the poor black woman in question. Other photos of her prior to the PF getting on the train show her on her knees, bent over and exposing her ass.

Here's the question I have about the PF. During the Biden administration we were told repeatedly that white nationalists were the biggest domestic terrorist threat to the US. How is it that this very public supposed white nationalist group has never been identified or investigated? Surely the FBI could have spared a little time from arresting J6 grannies and grandpas and parents attending PTA meetings.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2026 09:16 AM (viF8m)

229 >> I defy anyone to tell me that I don't love this country.
-- Jonathan Capehart


I am so freaking tired of lefties saying some version of "I love America for it's promise/potential for what it truly *can* be " blah blah blah.

This is how abuses talk, they're just trying to make obviously imperfect you better!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:16 AM (X8xt3)

230 208 >>Now, if your town has a "drought" every single summer the issue isn't weather conditions it is that you don't have enough water to support the current population level. And if you already have too many people you don't build slums to import massive numbers of immigrants...


"Hiya!!"
-- Colorado

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:09 AM (X8xt3)

"Call me!"

Posted by: Kalifornia, Dams be Damned! at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (l3cgK)

231 Oh, and about Reuters, they are known for repeatedly using stringers that have faked photographs of Israeli strikes and are a willing participant in the endless Pali death theatre fakes.

F*ck that vile 'news' organization in particular. Eurofags and/or wannabe Islamic ass kissers, all of them.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (E4rtv)

232 194 If I hear one more news story about some fvcking soccer game penalty I will take hostages.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 09:02 AM
++++
Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: The Off button at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (2Ez/1)

233 The link to the article on why Jews vote for leftists who hate them doesn't answer the question. It's a stupid article.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (l4RKn)

234 AI works more like a super search engine. Just like the Google algorithm can't become self aware, the current AI models can't either.

They can cause problems when we give them direct controls over things because they choose incorrect solutions to problems but at no point are they going to become Skynet or Berserkers
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:15 AM (sKqQm)

I’ve started using Grok instead of Google or DDG… works well

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 09:18 AM (hxAVk)

235 The best thing about metric football is the faces the players make when they fake fouls/injuries.

It is like watching middle schoolers in their first school play...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:18 AM (sKqQm)

236 209 Semitruck spills 40K pounds of Frank’s RedHot sauce on Ohio highway amid heatwave

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 09:10 AM (RHGPo)

Some folks put that sh** on everything...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:18 AM (l3cgK)

237 208 >>Now, if your town has a "drought" every single summer the issue isn't weather conditions it is that you don't have enough water to support the current population level. And if you already have too many people you don't build slums to import massive numbers of immigrants...


"Hiya!!"
-- Colorado

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:09 AM (X8xt3)

"Call me!"
Posted by: Kalifornia, Dams be Damned! at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (l3cgK)

You guys playing cards?

Posted by: Austin, TX at July 06, 2026 09:18 AM (6Ga6M)

238 Humorous video about soccer: Trump team vs pbho team:

https://tinyurl.com/34w3wj8d

Independence Day 1776. America F yah:

https://tinyurl.com/3ybef24f

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 09:19 AM (u82oZ)

239 "Call me!"

Posted by: Kalifornia, Dams be Damned! at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (l3cgK)


Count the number of water projects in CA since the 1980s.

I think the number is...1, even though population has almost
doubled.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 09:19 AM (l4RKn)

240 They want to show they are "down" with their less fortunate Brothas and Sistas...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 08:49 AM (GsrgF)

That's the hot new virtue signal, for sure...

"I always loved shoplifting, but I felt deep down like it was wrong. But then I heard on NPR about how racist Walgreens is for shutting down locations because of black and brown people exercising their 1st amendment right to peaceful theft protests, and I realized I was doing this for George Floyd all along, and that I turned out to be right again! It's crazy, how I'm always right in the end. I should be President."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 09:19 AM (BI5O2)

241 >>11 Million U.S. Adults Do Not Have a Job and America Spends More Than a Trillion Dollars per Year on a Social Safety Net for Them


. . . and keeps bringing in H1B (and all the other "temporary" visas) workers to do jobs Americans won't do American companies no longer hire American citizens to do!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:19 AM (X8xt3)

242 Surely the FBI could have spared a little time from arresting J6 grannies and grandpas and parents attending PTA meetings.
Posted by: JackStraw

They busted some in Idaho--about thirty some odd named, and like antifa, they were losers from all over. My guess is antifa and Singham are the culprits here and encouraged/protected by their local feds in office. The ones in Idaho got out of jail pretty quickly for a bunch of life's losers--so someone was paying that tab for legal services.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:20 AM (E4rtv)

243 213 Today I begin an experiment: plain milk in my coffee, instead of half-and-half.

Early results: I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:11 AM
_____
Hey big boy.

Posted by: Heavy Whipping Cream at July 06, 2026 09:20 AM (2Ez/1)

244 213 Today I begin an experiment: plain milk in my coffee, instead of half-and-half.

Early results: I can't tell the difference.

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:11 AM (ZxPkt)

Still tastes like sh** to me...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:20 AM (l3cgK)

245 Humorous video about soccer: Trump team vs pbho team:

https://tinyurl.com/34w3wj8d


That is gold

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:20 AM (sKqQm)

246 If someone noted this already, I apologize. Spencer Pratt issues rebuke of Mamdani in Independence Day message. From "Legal Insurrection":

https://tinyurl.com/2uudxdzn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 09:21 AM (Bw1/o)

247 A simple calculation by an AI with enough data would suggest that killing off most humans would make it's workload easier to manage. It still needs some to make sure the power stays turned on.
Posted by: jim
___________

I got it. I just tend to go off on this idea of wires and chips becoming conscious or aware. Apologies.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 06, 2026 09:21 AM (XvL8K)

248 They came for the Frank's, but I was a Tapatio man, so I said nothing. Then, they came for the Cholula...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 09:21 AM (t225e)

249 Their god Climate Change is a cruel and capricious monster created out of their own festering hatred.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (2GVsD)

250 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 09:19 AM (BI5O2)

Speak truth to power! Private property is theft!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...DSA at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (l4RKn)

251 Some folks put that sh** on everything...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I used it on birdseed to keep the squirrels out of the feeders. Birds don't have the necessary biologics causing capsaicin symptoms while mammals do.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (E4rtv)

252 186 Today is International Kissing Day. Give em lots of tongue and spit.

Posted by: gp at July 06, 2026 09:00 AM (Jr5Lq)

Does it say where?
Politicians can kiss me ass day...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:10 AM (l3cgK)

Australian Kisses. Quite like French Kisses except they are down under.

Posted by: Count de Monet at a remote location at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (6Ga6M)

253 245 Humorous video about soccer: Trump team vs pbho team:

https://tinyurl.com/34w3wj8d

That is gold
Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:20 AM (sKqQm)

LOL... Fat JD

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (GsrgF)

254 The LAST thing teacher's unions care about is the kids.

Posted by: Case at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (IY9No)

255 Today I begin an experiment: plain milk in my coffee, instead of half-and-half.

Early results: I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:11 AM
_____
Hey big boy.
Posted by: Heavy Whipping Cream at July 06, 2026 09:20 AM (2Ez/1)

Listen to this guy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (t225e)

256 How is South Africa's decolonization of the infrastructure going?

They've reverted to cannibalism yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 09:23 AM (2GVsD)

257 Apparently its too hard to save the country or even look out for your own financial interests.
——-

Dude. It’s not 1975 any longer.

You have no idea this shit was totally hijacked a long long time ago. At best, you get your kids out of the system altogether. Homeschooling.

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 09:23 AM (85pLS)

258 Speak truth to power! Private property is theft!/i]

That reminds me during CHAZ some CHAZite had his phone stolen out of his car and was complaining about it on reddit. The most common response was "the other person obviously needed the phone more then you, you should be happy zer took it!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 06, 2026 09:23 AM (sKqQm)

259 of Frank’s RedHot sauce

Their tv commercial with a fat black lady's dog knocking food out of a white man's hand, and getting scolded by a wog hot dog vendor.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 06, 2026 09:24 AM (Kt19C)

260 So far I can recall 3 movies about the dangers of AI

Colossus: The Forbin Project
WarGames
T2: Judgment Day

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:25 AM (ZxPkt)

261 I used it on birdseed to keep the squirrels out of the feeders. Birds don't have the necessary biologics causing capsaicin symptoms while mammals do.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM


We tried dusting the feeder with cayenne back in the day. I'm pretty sure we have Mexican squirrels.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 09:25 AM (bFu5X)

262 Mostly I'm trying to get away from buying 2 products instead of one

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:25 AM (ZxPkt)

263 260 So far I can recall 3 movies about the dangers of AI

Colossus: The Forbin Project
WarGames
T2: Judgment Day

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:25 AM (Z xPkt)


I Robot

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 09:26 AM (GsrgF)

264 The one loss was for the school board. He was crushed by the local newspaper, teachers, and the Left.

It is a hard struggle. I think homeschooling is the way.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Education money from taxes should follow the student but at the same time, parents have to demonstrate that they can and will educate their kids to get it.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:26 AM (E4rtv)

265 >>If I hear one more news story about some fvcking soccer game penalty I will take hostages.


I'm simply enjoying how the American team is progressing, while most Americans aren't really fans of all this. Like, we can win things we don't even care about, lol! Every win is a bonus!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:26 AM (X8xt3)

266 Technically Doctor Strangelove is also a warning about AI because it is the Soviet computerized Doomsday that destroys the world in nuclear fire.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 09:26 AM (2GVsD)

267 239 "Call me!"

Posted by: Kalifornia, Dams be Damned! at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (l3cgK)

Count the number of water projects in CA since the 1980s.

I think the number is...1, even though population has almost
doubled.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2026 09:19 AM (l4RKn)

I think Kalifornia has fewer dams that they did in 1980...they "retired" a few due to eco-commies wanting the snail sucking dart f**ker to have more water and to return lands "back to the way they were", but they won't touch dams that feed water to the libbie cities, like the Hetch-Hetchy Dam, which inundated an entire pristine valley near Yosemite.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:26 AM (l3cgK)

268 >255 Today I begin an experiment: plain milk in my coffee, instead of half-and-half.

Early results: I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:11 AM
_____
Hey big boy.
Posted by: Heavy Whipping Cream at July 06, 2026 09:20 AM

*bats eyelashes*

Posted by: Ghee at July 06, 2026 09:27 AM (2Ez/1)

269 >>Colossus: The Forbin Project
WarGames
T2: Judgment Day

>>I Robot

Transcendence
2001: A Space Odyssey

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:27 AM (X8xt3)

270 254 The LAST thing teacher's unions care about is the kids.

Posted by: Case at July 06, 2026 09:22 AM (IY9No)


In theory the kids and their parents are the customers of the teachers. The actual customers of the unionized teachers are themselves.

Filed under: Things that cannot go on forever but their end is not in sight.

Posted by: Gref at July 06, 2026 09:27 AM (5rh/l)

271 Machine Man

Metropolis

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 09:27 AM (2GVsD)

272 We tried dusting the feeder with cayenne back in the day. I'm pretty sure we have Mexican squirrels.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

The stronger the better and liquids leave a coating rather than a determined squirrel sorting seeds.

Anyway, I quit using the powdered version when I was filling feeders and a wind came up. Peppersprayed myself when the wind caught it just right and blew that powder into my face.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:27 AM (E4rtv)

273 Here's the question I have about the PF. During the Biden administration we were told repeatedly that white nationalists were the biggest domestic terrorist threat to the US. How is it that this very public supposed white nationalist group has never been identified or investigated? Surely the FBI could have spared a little time from arresting J6 grannies and grandpas and parents attending PTA meetings.
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When you tell lefties there is no such thing as white nationalism, they simply freeze up. They've never considered that there is no boogey man.

I highly recommend saying it. It's fun to watch.

Posted by: MJ at July 06, 2026 09:28 AM (XOmY9)

274 "2001" introduced us to HAL, but I wouldn't say HAL was the subject of the film

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:28 AM (ZxPkt)

275 Half and Half is richer tasting than whole Milk. If your taste buds are shot it probably won’t matter.

Half and Half makes clouds in your coffee as it is poured in (as pointed out by Carly Simon, I think).

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 09:29 AM (85pLS)

276 The stronger the better and liquids leave a coating rather than a determined squirrel sorting seeds.

Anyway, I quit using the powdered version when I was filling feeders and a wind came up. Peppersprayed myself when the wind caught it just right and blew that powder into my face.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:27 AM


Your point is valid. Persistent chemical agents ftw.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2026 09:29 AM (bFu5X)

277 257> Homeschooling.

Absolutely. Your kids are on the clock, and the time it takes to clean up the schools so that your kids aren't ruined will be well after they graduate.

BTW, the schools were pretty messed up in a different way in 1975. Lot of people had their kids in parochial schools and in many union dominated states, homeschooling was a truancy crime.

Homeschooling is legal in fifty states now. In some blue states, heavily regulated, but its legal.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 09:29 AM (pUU4E)

278 Wouldn't It Be Nice -

USA vs England for the final game of the World Cup.

"We kicked your ass 250 years ago and we're gonna do it again!

Posted by: Count de Monet at a remote location at July 06, 2026 09:30 AM (6Ga6M)

279 >>"2001" introduced us to HAL, but I wouldn't say HAL was the subject of the film

Yeah, but it was so memorable!
I liked GERTY in "Moon."

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:30 AM (X8xt3)

280 Unions upset the paradigm of serving the customer to serving themselves.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2026 09:30 AM (2GVsD)

281 If I hear one more news story about some fvcking soccer game penalty I will take hostages.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 09:02 AM
++++
Sitting right here, boss.
Posted by: The Off button at July 06, 2026 09:17 AM (2Ez/1)
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My reflexes ain't what they used to be

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 06, 2026 09:30 AM (RIvkX)

282 Also, the movie "Her."

Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2026 09:31 AM (X8xt3)

283 Filed under: Things that cannot go on forever but their end is not in sight.
Posted by: Gref
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The movement to end property taxes in states is a torpedo aimed directly at profligate local governments and education establishments. That is their source of automatic increased budgets just from inflation on property values. And local governments use that spigot to finance all kinds of bonds and spending to benefit their local political cronies.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:32 AM (E4rtv)

284 Sad just remembered, WTF was Mamdani sitting at George Washington's desk backwards about?

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 09:32 AM (sgkY8)

285 In terms of what I'm putting in my coffee, I put sweetened creamer, exactly 2 tablespoons, it' slightly lightens, sweetens and flavors it all at the same time, can get 64 cups of coffee out of a half gallon, cuts down on both milk/half-half and sugar usage.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2026 09:33 AM (XV/Pl)

286 I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream (2002)

Posted by: Count de Monet at a remote location at July 06, 2026 09:33 AM (6Ga6M)

287 Your point is valid. Persistent chemical agents ftw.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I got tired of repairing or replacing squirrel damaged feeders. Nowadays, we mainly use the pepper infused suet cakes. Squirrels avoid those and the feeders are smaller with less waste--birds like even the crappier seed mixes when covered in fat.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:34 AM (E4rtv)

288 I suspect you will start hearing a lot less about the PF train ride photo when they were intimidating the poor black woman.

See the link I posted at 192. That's the poor black woman in question. Other photos of her prior to the PF getting on the train show her on her knees, bent over and exposing her ass.


Yup. She’s been arrested previously for waving her vag at people on the train. A true modern Rosa Parks to be sure.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2026 09:34 AM (QZThv)

289 251> We tried dusting the feeder with cayenne back in the day.

Up your game to Carolina Reaper.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 09:34 AM (pUU4E)

290 You could be “White” and you could be a “Nationalist”; this technically makes you a White Nationalist. Though nowhere near a White Nationalist

See the games they play with words? It has been pervasive and relentless for a long time.

The rhetoric has shifted from “Equality under the law” and “Equal Opportunity” and treat everybody the same in a colorblind society based on character, aptitude, and merit, etc., to

“Whitey Needs To Die”. And this is emanating from our once hallowed halls of academia and other pseudointellectual outlets. If you don’t yet fully understand the implications of this, eventually you will.

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 09:34 AM (85pLS)

291 Art is up.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 09:34 AM (u82oZ)

292 A. Work hard, save money, delay gratification, be a responsible adult.

B. Vote for socialists to give me shit while I play video games and get high every day.

Posted by: Options Young People Have at July 06, 2026 09:35 AM (NnY+W)

293 247 A simple calculation by an AI with enough data would suggest that killing off most humans would make it's workload easier to manage. It still needs some to make sure the power stays turned on.
Posted by: jim
___________

I got it. I just tend to go off on this idea of wires and chips becoming conscious or aware. Apologies.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 06, 2026 09:21 AM (XvL8K)

It's kinda like using a transporter in Star Trek. You're killed, your memories encoded and your molecules and atoms turned into energy which is transmitted somewhere else, where your atoms and molecules are reassembled and the memories programmed back into the brain...but is it "You" looking out of those eyes? I would say no. You are dead. What appears on the other end of the transporter pad is your doppleganger.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:35 AM (l3cgK)

294 I'm curious as to why every American wouldn't consider themselves a nationalist regardless of skin color?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2026 09:35 AM (XV/Pl)

295 parents have to demonstrate that they can and will educate their kids to get it.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:26 AM (E4rtv)

I've always rejected that notion since I was a school kid - nobody should be forced to be educated, and I don't see the state interest in doing so.

Most parents will choose to educate their kids, given the option to do it. If the state wants to fund that, fine, but they shouldn't run any schools of their own, or mandate anything in terms of curricula.

Those parents who opt out - also, fine. That's a them problem. Not my problem, or the government's. We're not talking about them snuffing out cigarettes on the kid, here.

In terms of determining who gets any state funding, that's easy - write the checks to their private school of choice. That can be solved with a simple business licensure and even desultory auditing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 09:36 AM (t225e)

296 Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 09:32 AM (sgkY

I was wondering the same thing, but then someone suggested that it might be the place where Washington's secretary sat , in which case there were openings on both sides. I don't know, but if that were the case Mamdani should have explained it, because most people seeing the picture probably thought the same thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 09:36 AM (Bw1/o)

297 Yup. She’s been arrested previously for waving her vag at people on the train. A true modern Rosa Parks to be sure.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Who was fake as well, Rosa was a political operative from outside, the original was a teenaged mother who had a kid out of wedlock. The Civil Rights movement shunted her aside and put Rosa in as a political op.

The idea of a noble lie has been used by groups across the globe to push their points.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:37 AM (E4rtv)

298 The idea of a noble lie has been used by groups across the globe to push their points.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:37 AM (E4rtv)

Right?

Posted by: Matthew Sheppard at July 06, 2026 09:38 AM (NnY+W)

299 I worried about cheap bird seed from unknown sources. Country of Origin should be required for everything, every thing we buy. No exceptions that I can think of.

Would you trust Chinesium bird food? (Hint: you probably shouldn’t) They were selling adulterated baby milk formula and dog food and poisoning golly knows how many. Melamine spoofs spot detectors for protein levels in bulk shipments. Though it causes kidney failure.

It’s worth it to spend a little more to serve edible foods to our children, pets, and feathered friends.

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 09:39 AM (85pLS)

300 263 260 So far I can recall 3 movies about the dangers of AI

Colossus: The Forbin Project
WarGames
T2: Judgment Day

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2026 09:25 AM (Z xPkt)


I Robot

Posted by: It's me donna at July 06, 2026 09:26 AM (GsrgF)

I laughed when I saw the Spanish version when I was across the border at a Walmart in Mexico..."Yo, Robot". Sounds like someone in the 'hood...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 09:39 AM (l3cgK)

301 I think CBD is still basking in some patriotic Independence Day afterglow. The large painting leaning against the wall appears to be some architecture akin to TJ's memorial and up above it on the wall there's a tall phallic symbol not unlike George's monument.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 06, 2026 09:42 AM (2Ez/1)

302 Oops. Wrong thread.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (2Ez/1)

303 Who was fake as well, Rosa was a political operative from outside
——-

There was a black church bombing or two down south right about the time the Civil Rights bill was under consideration. In later years when I started understanding how the spook agencies and manipulators operate, this looked pretty sus.

Not to say there aren’t rednecks down south. Sure was awfully convenient. Monsters either way

Posted by: Kemosabe at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (85pLS)

304 Those parents who opt out - also, fine. That's a them problem. Not my problem, or the government's. We're not talking about them snuffing out cigarettes on the kid, here.

In terms of determining who gets any state funding, that's easy - write the checks to their private school of choice. That can be solved with a simple business licensure and even desultory auditing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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On one hand, you may have a point but on the other, your libertarianism is equally not the answer because our society nowadays is too fractured to push the importance of literacy and apply social costs to those parents who let their kids rot.

And we forget, the Founders talked about Ordered liberty, not 'freedom' as it had a concept of society rather than government serving as the first block to individual anti-social behavior. Our current ruling class would be making excuses for miserable parents becuz of race, ethnicity, poverty, etc. rather than scolding and shaming them. And that made a difference in a society with no safety net other than private charity.

Incentives matter.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (E4rtv)

305
Repeal of the Ten Commandments.
Posted by: Auspex at July 06, 2026 08:12 AM (Y8DZL)

There were 15.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 06, 2026 09:46 AM (Iwx/a)

306 Right?
Posted by: Matthew Sheppard
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Disputes among gay meth dealers and users is scarcely likely to get a Bill named after one of them if they died in the dispute.

Same as using poor straights as AIDs theater that we all could get it instead of mentioning the straights were infected by AIDS from homosexuals donating tainted blood by Fauci. And that the few straight women that got it were either intervenous drug users sharing needles, sex workers with a busy agenda of unknown clients, or had a bisexual male dabbling on the side with buttsex.

Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:48 AM (E4rtv)

307 Our current ruling class would be making excuses for miserable parents becuz of race, ethnicity, poverty, etc. rather than scolding and shaming them. And that made a difference in a society with no safety net other than private charity.

Incentives matter.
Posted by: whig at July 06, 2026 09:43 AM (E4rtv)

Totally. But that said, any meaningful reform our horrible education system would necessarily be predicated upon the end of that ruling class.

It's a thought experiment until such time as the existing, unfit order can be swept away.

Also, as an aside... I don't think my ideas can be described as libertarian, honestly. They involve state funding using tax monies, licensure, and at least some limited regulatory authority. It's just not compulsory, and the government doesn't get any ownership stake, or direct administrative function.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2026 10:13 AM (t225e)

308
I'm simply enjoying how the American team is progressing, while most Americans aren't really fans of all this. Like, we can win things we don't even care about, lol! Every win is a bonus!!
Posted by: Lizzy


And Canada is out! Woe, Canada!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 10:22 AM (s9VOe)

309 Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars

And Mexico is out! Woe, Mexico!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 10:38 AM (u82oZ)

310 'Morning, all, and thanks J.J.

Again, thank O & Joe (their 2012 program) & Sanders. It's been in the works for decades & now the push. NOTE: Michelle O. included "Dreamers" in her speech for the opening of 'the rock & river' in Chicago.

May be the biggest election issue of 2028.

Many DACAs/Dreamers participate in grassroots advocacy, immigrant rights, and labor justice movements. As a result, a majority would align with progressive or democratic socialist platforms. Also, the majority of Dreamers/DACA recipients reside in heavily left-leaning or blue states.

It's a mistake to believe all are Latino/Hispanic.

Ignore the years of publication for the 'idea' and ideal still stands & isn't going away: Millennial Movements: Occupy Wall Street and the Dreamers; American Immigration Council, Politics is Personal for Young Undocumented Immigrants; PBS, Congress has tried to protect 'dreamers' before. Will this time be different?

Temporary Protected Status: Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA / Dreamers) Renewals: Individuals who currently have DACA can continue to file for renewals to maintain their deportation protections and work permits...

Cont'd -

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM (NFX2v)

311 ..for renewals to maintain their deportation protections and work permits.

However, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is currently not processing or approving any new, first-time DACA requests. ("The program faces ongoing legal challenges, creating uncertainty regarding its long-term future, particularly in Texas." AI Overview)

Often well educated; with children of their own (or borrowed) with that little thing, birthright citizenship, and may be married into the US citizen population.
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A few weeks ago, hew & cry over TSP & Humanitarian Patrol and Haitians:

Reportedly, 21% of all Haitian Americans work in the healthcare sector, primarily in three states: Florida, New York and Massachusetts. The vast majority are in nursing.

Haitian-born doctors often work as GPs, pediatricians or internal med specialists but because of licensing barriers for foreign-trained physicians, many choose to be in urban and community clinics.

Haitian physicians & highly specialized nurses who immigrated directly for such roles typically are on standard time-limited Visas UNLESS hospitals sponsor for green cards. But the admin. did issue an exemption,

Cont'd

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM (NFX2v)

312 May 2026, allowing Haitian physicians on work permits to resume processing and remain employed amid "national physician shortages."

Remember, a large segment of the 112,000+ Haitian healthcare professionals are permanent US residents (green card holders) or naturalized US citizens. Their time in the US and their authorizations to practice medicine are entirely permanent and unrestricted.

TDS
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More intentionality, politically, by the progressives in Congress:

'The Seven Democrats Who Joined Republicans in Opposing Measure to Block Arms Sales to Israel,' Apr 17, 2026

In the end, Chuck Schumer & a few others of his ilk WILL go out top.

'How Bernie Sanders convinced Democrats to oppose arming Israel' The Vermont independent’s long-running campaign to block arms sales is demonstrating a sea change in the Senate Democratic Caucus, Apr 28, 2026

It's theater, darling. They're marching to the same core principles & goals.
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19 suspected heat-related deaths since dangerous heatwave began, N.J. health official says, Pub. Jul. 4

Widespread power outages, yet Governor like Sherril & Shapiro aren't kicking a**es to upgrade power grids.
'Cause Data Centers & unions

👆 imo


Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 10:43 AM (NFX2v)

313 🔥

WJACtv: Man accused of killing PA State Trooper in crash is illegal Haitian immigrant: DHS, Fri, July 3, 2026

FOX News, Illegal immigrant truck driver charged in death of trooper who moved home to care for mom with cancer
Driver Michael Bon held an active non-domiciled CDL despite DHS terminating his parole and ordering him to leave the US, July 4, 2026

WGAL: Funeral plans released for state trooper killed on I-81
Trooper Michael Pahira Jr., who was killed during safety inspections on I-81 in Schuylkill County, will be laid to rest on July 8, 2026.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 11:10 AM (NFX2v)

314 The Trump administration launched "Trump Accounts" on July 4, 2026, offering a one-time $1,000 deposit for eligible newborns. The funds are deposited into tax-advantaged investment accounts designed to grow through the stock market until the child turns 18.

Key details of the program include:

Eligibility: Children born between January 1, 2025, and December 31, 2028, who are U.S. citizens with a valid Social Security number.

Contributions: Parents, family members, and friends can contribute up to $5,000 annually per child, while employers can contribute up to $2,500, which will be excluded from the employee's taxable income.

Withdrawals: Funds cannot be accessed until the beneficiary turns 18.* Afterward, the account operates like a traditional IRA and can be used for education, buying a home, or starting a business.

Yes, there are more built in rules. Read.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 11:24 AM (NFX2v)

Daily Tech News 6 July 2026

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Disclaimer: No I can't. Someone nailed my feet to the floor.

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)

2 from the ONT

360 In memory of Jayzik "Jay Carly" Azikiwe.

Born to Flora in London, May 12, 1958, daughter of Nnamdi Azikiwe, the first President of Nigeria.

Died of cancer in Banjul, Gambia, January 31, 2008, as "The Phenomenal Woman," "The Simple Poet," and a mother of four.

And in between, she charmed millions as Roller Girl, the real star of a certain 1981 music video.

she gets rock n roll a rock n roll station
and a rock n roll dream
she’s making movies on location
she don’t know what it means
but the music make her wanna be the story
and the story was whatever was the song what it was
rollergirl don’t worry
d.j. play the movies all night long

Dire Straits - Skateaway (Official Music Video)
https://youtu.be/vcwl-Q7pAtY

It is not her fault that, in some way, she symbolizes the death of our great cities as Generational Places in their own right. At some point, they somehow transformed into mere theaters for the youthful development of all the world's transnational elites; and she was there for it, but did not make it happen.
Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 03:11 AM (Sy6m/)

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

3 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2026 04:32 AM (lR5Ug)

4 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 04:33 AM (Ia/+0)

5 Too much time on my hands.

Whatever nasty storm you folks had in the northeast, collapsed trees and tore into the OF cable which our company's IBM mainframe is accessible through.

ET for repair: unavailable.

So now Mrs. BD decide to convert the garage adjacent storage room into a bedroom. Busy assemble portable folding beds. Fun. Not.

Trump's fault!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2026 04:36 AM (lR5Ug)

6 Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way
Disclaimer: No I can't. Someone nailed my feet to the floor.

ouch

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:38 AM (6wpGE)

7 Rejoinder: If you have a crowbar, nothing is nailed down.

Posted by: clarence at July 06, 2026 04:40 AM (xyH2B)

8 And guten morgen, horde.

Posted by: clarence at July 06, 2026 04:40 AM (xyH2B)

9 5 Whatever nasty storm you folks had in the northeast, collapsed trees and tore into the OF cable

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2026 04:36 AM (lR5Ug)

first thought: OnlyFans??!!!??
second thought: Optic Fiber

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:42 AM (6wpGE)

10 Folarin Balogun, the US Men's Soccer Team's best scorer, received a highly controversial red card in the last game which put him on the bench for tonight's game against Belgium. That has changed after a phone call from President Donald Trump to the head of FIFA. It is reported that Donald said, " the B2s are in the air and we know where you sleep, I think we can work this out right?" And just like that Folarin Is back in the game.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2026 04:43 AM (/eAef)

11 10 It is reported that Donald said, " the B2s are in the air and we know where you sleep, I think we can work this out right?" And just like that Folarin Is back in the game.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2026 04:43 AM (/eAef)

FAKE NEWS

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:47 AM (6wpGE)

12 Bonchie retweeted
Frank J. Fleming
@IMAO_
8h
The people arguing against Balogun returning are basically saying, “Nooo! Soccer is supposed to be stupid and arbitrary! You’re ruining the sport by making sure justice is served!”

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:49 AM (6wpGE)

13 FAKE NEWS

It's fake only if you want it to be fake. Saying the US men's tea was going to sue FIFA to screw up the entire World Cup is not as much fun.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2026 04:51 AM (/eAef)

14 I have been gifted a half eaten mouse and cat puke

Posted by: The Ballots at July 06, 2026 04:51 AM (LOZbR)

15 Which half?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 06, 2026 04:54 AM (BLOW1)

16
Dave Portnoy
@stoolpresidente
13h
The difference between Belgium and the United States is that in the United States we always want to beat the best. The US Mens team wouldnt have even taken the field if Belgiums best player was unfairly suspended. Apparently Belgium wants the easy way out Very sad European behavior

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:55 AM (6wpGE)

17 I was told that kickball was special due to the buildup to each goal. Sounds like a clogged drain if you ask me

Posted by: Rough Girls and Effeminate Men at July 06, 2026 04:56 AM (LOZbR)

18 Last day going west maybe for a few days
See you when I get there

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 04:56 AM (Ia/+0)

19 It was the back half. Translated from "cat speak" I'm worth about as much as a mouse butt

Posted by: The Ballots at July 06, 2026 04:57 AM (LOZbR)

20 @15/Pixy Misa: "15 Which half?"

The uneaten one?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2026 04:58 AM (O7YUW)

21 Alex Karp criticized the token model used by U.S. artificial intelligence labs Anthropic and OpenAI as costs skyrocket; selling tokens instead of sharing real value, and covertly extracting intellectual property and competitive advantage (“alpha” from enterprises.

“We’re paying for tokens that create no value,” Karp said. “These people [Sam Altman, Dario Amodei/Anthropic] are stealing the weights and alpha of my business.”

https://tinyurl.com/4tv4u7b7



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 05:02 AM (GebTj)

22 @21/Braenyard: Wow he's annoying to listen to. He's unable to complete a sentence without interrupting his own thoughts.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2026 05:07 AM (O7YUW)

23 20 @15/Pixy Misa: "15 Which half?"

The uneaten one?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2026 04:58 AM (O7YUW)

"Have a heart!"

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 05:10 AM (6wpGE)

24 The Palantir chief repeatedly framed the issue as one of national security, saying military customers and operators of critical infrastructure wanted greater control over AI models, computing resources and proprietary data.

~2:50 the secret was we delivered the best things for the war fighters, “Those warfighters have serious trust issues,” Karp said,
...
Are we really going to outsource the battlefield of this country to the consensus view in Silicon Valley? That is effing insane.”

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 05:13 AM (GebTj)

25
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 06, 2026 05:16 AM (AMvSw)

26 You get a meteor strike! And you get a meteor strike!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 06, 2026 05:19 AM (BLOW1)

27 22 @21/Braenyard: Wow he's annoying to listen to. He's unable to complete a sentence without interrupting his own thoughts.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
---

Absolutely. And his accent or mumbling doesn't help. But I've listened two or three times. He says a lot and it's important. He's eccentric but I'd put him in the same homeroom with Musk.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 05:21 AM (GebTj)

28 26 You get a meteor strike! And you get a meteor strike!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 06, 2026 05:19 AM (BLOW1)

uh-oh

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 05:22 AM (6wpGE)

29 8h
The people arguing against Balogun returning are basically saying, “Nooo! Soccer is supposed to be stupid and arbitrary! You’re ruining the sport by making sure justice is served!”

Posted by: m
---

I scanned that the judges did the same thing (change the red card call) on two other players the week before.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 05:36 AM (GebTj)

30 Guten abend, horde.

Posted by: clarence at July 06, 2026 05:42 AM (xyH2B)

31 Hey, y'all remember the Groklaw site, and the SCO v. Unix case that was adjudicated to ridiculous extremes?

https://tinyurl.com/2sfn6rhw

The Register: Zombie ‘who owns Unix?’ lawsuit comes alive again

(SCO's legal successor Xinuos asks legal brains to let it bite IBM over ancient license and copyright claims)


The article fittingly ends with: "The matter continues and appears likely to do so until either the heat death of the universe or the year of Linux on the desktop – whichever comes sooner."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 06, 2026 05:46 AM (O7YUW)

32 Guten abend, horde.

Posted by: clarence at July 06, 2026 05:42 AM (xyH2B)
-

And an S0C4 to you, too!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2026 05:46 AM (lR5Ug)

33 Man from Texas reflects on 1 Peter 5:6-9 and God's care:

https://tinyurl.com/mrdsvd7m

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 05:46 AM (Bw1/o)

34 29 8h
The people arguing against Balogun returning are basically saying, “Nooo! Soccer is supposed to be stupid and arbitrary! You’re ruining the sport by making sure justice is served!”

Posted by: m
---

I scanned that the judges did the same thing (change the red card call) on two other players the week before.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 05:36 AM (GebTj)

Soccer is supposed to be stupid and arbitrary indeed. We still are in charge of knowing when a soccer game ends. No one is allowed to know that but us. Don’t let us catch you trying to figure it out.

Posted by: Soccer officials at July 06, 2026 05:49 AM (4g5V+)

35 Day Two of the power outage. We had sustained 90 mph straight line winds Saturday night that did a ton of damage to the neighborhood here in central Oklahoma.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 06, 2026 05:49 AM (l26NL)

36 Rabbi's daughter from the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews reflects on Numbers 30:2 and speaking good into our lives:

https://tinyurl.com/4wuct2zv

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 05:56 AM (Bw1/o)

37 Nothing is what I feel
Waiting for the drugs to make it real
Waiting for the day when I will crawl away

- Porcupine Tree “Waiting”

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 06, 2026 05:56 AM (4g5V+)

38 Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 06, 2026 05:49 AM (l26NL

Wow; It sounds scary. Do they have any idea when power might be restored?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 05:57 AM (Bw1/o)

39 29 I scanned that the judges did the same thing (change the red card call) on two other players the week before.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 05:36 AM (GebTj)

Cristiano Ronaldo is one:

Ben Jacobs
@JacobsBen
17h
🚨 Folarin Balogun is eligible to play against Belgium.

FIFA sources had insisted US Soccer had no appeal. Sources say US Soccer did not attempt one as a result.

And Balogun had spoken on Monday here in Seattle about missing the game telling us, “I have to accept it…”

Yet FIFA have decided to hand Balogun a suspended one-game ban, which is in their powers as per Article 27. The red card stands but Balogun is free to play.

Cristiano Ronaldo also given a suspended ban before the tournament allowing him to play Portugal’s opening World Cup games.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 05:57 AM (6wpGE)

40
Umair Ansari
@UmairAnsaari
15h
Replying to @JacobsBen
Folarin Balogun’s red card vs Bosnia STANDS on his record.
FIFA’s Disciplinary Committee did NOT overturn it.
Instead, under Article 27 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code, they suspended the automatic 1-match ban for a 1-year probation period.
→ Balogun is AVAILABLE vs Belgium.
If he commits a similar serious foul during probation, the original ban activates + new sanctions.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 05:59 AM (6wpGE)

41 Made it, very light traffic but drove into the rain, had stopped at home

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 06:02 AM (bLIRx)

42 Now connected

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 06:02 AM (sgkY8)

43 oh, good point:

Aslam
@aslambeg84
14h
Replying to @JacobsBen
Belgium preparing for two different USMNT lineups in the same week wasn't on their schedule. 😭

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 06:03 AM (6wpGE)

44 Good morning, one and all. I got to the gym, worked out, drove to work and found out we're at a work stoppage until further notice. So now I'm back home with my first cup of coffee.

And I got this article last night. Journey's keyboardist talking about his faith, the need for Americans to reconnect to our values and the meaning of the song "Don't Stop Believing."

https://tinyurl.com/yw5f53tk

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 06:09 AM (/k3in)

45 Look, if you want to kick a guy out of a game, fine. But a one game suspension is rigging. It's bullshit. I don't know much about soccer, but the games have been pretty good., but even I can see that the officiating sucks, and has been inconsistent.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 06, 2026 06:14 AM (fkjGs)

46 +0 hrs 20 min
Do you know where your coworkers are?

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 06:21 AM (sgkY8)

47 Evening and morning, Tech Folken! Yeah, I know, it's Monday, and after a three-day weekend for a lot of us. But remember:

"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 06:23 AM (wzUl9)

48 46 +0 hrs 20 min
Do you know where your coworkers are?
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 06:21 AM (sgkY

cow-orkers, Skip

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 06:25 AM (6wpGE)

49 Last night I dreamed that I woke up at 1:30 am, and was trying to cobble together coffee, when Giles from Buffy the Vampire Slayer -- apparently possessed by a demon -- bared his teeth at me and slammed me back against a kitchen cabinet. I remember thinking in the dream, "This is my favorite episode!"

And yet I still slept until five. Amazin'.

It's a stunningly low (!) 77 F. this morning, and yet I plan to go over to the local mall for a long walk in the A/C around ten. Linda and I scoped the place out on Saturday and found it a good walking environment. There were only about three or four others there.

At nine, I have a video tour of a new property in Indiana. The house checks many of my boxes, but would require replacing of carpet with laminate in about 500 sq. ft. -- not, I assume, cheap. But the house price is low enough that I could manage it without trouble.

So, howz about you?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 06:31 AM (wzUl9)

50 14 I have been gifted a half eaten mouse and cat puke
Posted by: The Ballots at July 06, 2026 04:51 AM (LOZbR)

He takes care of all the live, mangled or dead tokens of her devotion- she's his cat. Her gecko score stands at 6, as of last night.

Posted by: sal at July 06, 2026 06:32 AM (f+FmA)

51 46 +0 hrs 20 min
Do you know where your coworkers are?
Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026
*
cow-orkers, Skip
Posted by: m at July 06, 2026


***
I used to refer to mine as "cow-irkers"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 06:32 AM (wzUl9)

52 It rained like a mofo last night, leaf/tree litter everywhere.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2026 06:33 AM (XV/Pl)

53 I have been gifted a half eaten mouse and cat puke
Posted by: The Ballots at July 06, 2026
*
He takes care of all the live, mangled or dead tokens of her devotion- she's his cat. Her gecko score stands at 6, as of last night.
Posted by: sal at July 06, 2026


***
I'm just glad that Stirling left the mouse he killed a month ago on the floor at the foot of the bed -- instead of on my pillow!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 06:34 AM (wzUl9)

54 ICE is closing 7 of 11 detention facilities. Deportation focus is now strictly on those with criminal records. Mass deportation is no longer (if it ever was) the objective.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 06:35 AM (fZiTB)

55 I remember thinking in the dream, "This is my favorite episode!"

Giles was one of the best characters in that show. He had no fear of the various creatures that showed up.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 06:36 AM (/k3in)

56 Thanks for the devotions, Fen.
It's been an eventful week in the Trad Catholic world, and they are a help.

Posted by: sal at July 06, 2026 06:40 AM (f+FmA)

57 Mass deportation is no longer (if it ever was) the objective.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 06:35 AM (fZiTB)

That's the only thing that will change things. Sure, target the criminals, but they're all criminals, aren't they?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 06:40 AM (1Ff7Z)

58 Good morning! I'm really enjoying watching videos of foreigners discovering America and Americans. The international media seems to have their panties in a wad over the reaction. I'm sure the national media is just as flustered, too.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2026 06:41 AM (3Ope8)

59 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2026 06:41 AM (sAmhv)

60 Giles was one of the best characters in that show. He had no fear of the various creatures that showed up.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026


***
Oh, he was sensible enough to be afraid, but his knowledge and courage were up to the task. And his "father-daughter" relationship with Buffy was an essential part of the show.

Giles: "Very well. I'll just climb into my time machine, go back to the eleventh century, and ask the monks to postpone their prophecy while you take in dinner and a show."

BUffy: "Okay, at this point you're *abusing* sarcasm."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 06:41 AM (wzUl9)

61 The international media seems to have their panties in a wad over the reaction. I'm sure the national media is just as flustered, too.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead


"How dare you be so happy? Don't you know how horrible this place is?!"

"Dude, try the brisket."

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 06:44 AM (/k3in)

62 Glad you got it running again & it made it there.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 06:47 AM (GebTj)

63 "Dude, try the brisket."

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 06:44 AM (/k3in)

My favorite is the Irish couple that get chicken and waffles, and the German guy eating a cheeseburger and dipping his fries in the milkshake is pretty good too.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2026 06:47 AM (3Ope8)

64 I'm just glad that Stirling left the mouse he killed a month ago on the floor at the foot of the bed -- instead of on my pillow!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 06:34 AM (wzUl9)

If we're lucky, like last night, I'm sitting on the couch and catch her coming in the cat door with her prey.
Sometimes she's furtive, like "Gecko? what gecko?" and sometimes she's like "Yeah- I got a lizard. You got a problem with that?"

This is why we walk around the house at night with tiny flashlights.

Posted by: sal at July 06, 2026 06:48 AM (f+FmA)

65 Another scene from the second season of Buffy encapsulates the whole Giles-Buffy relationship. Giles, driven to near-madness by Angelus' murder of his girlfriend Jenny (and posing her dead body in his bed!), has tried to confront and kill the vampires in their abandoned factory lair. He is almost killed, and Buffy drags him out of the conflagration. She sobs over him in fury and relief:

"Were you *trying* to get yourself killed? Don't you leave me -- I can't do this without you!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 06:49 AM (wzUl9)

66 ICE closing facilities?
Leftists should be jumping for joy

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 06:49 AM (sgkY8)

67 Well, evenin' somewhere.

Morning here in DC and I'm heading to bed, being a nightwalker. I honestly don't care about the World Cup. Hope the USA goes far but I'm not expecting it. Alas, I'm meh about it all. With Trump involving himself, that will take away that FIFA is obscenely corrupt. That's the only thing that annoys me about all of this.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2026 06:50 AM (sAmhv)

68 Oh, he was sensible enough to be afraid, but his knowledge and courage were up to the task.

I loved the moment when he went after Angel.

Buffy: "He took the weapons."
Xander: "They're right there."
Buffy: "No, those are the everyday weapons. He took the ones he breaks out when company comes."

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 06:51 AM (/k3in)

69 That's the only thing that will change things. Sure, target the criminals, but they're all criminals, aren't they?

Posted by: OrangeEnt
--

Omar's a criminal, the squad is criminal. All muslims are criminals and should leave in peace.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 06:54 AM (GebTj)

70 Just finished reading "A Suitor from the Shades," by Greye la Spina, from the 1920s.

Concerns a headstrong woman whose sister is disabled, living with her father.

It opens in a garden, where the sister, Clare, is watching her older sister, Margie, sing a song by a suitor, Ned, for a production he's written.

Clare feels a presence in the garden that causes her to faint. Turns out everyone present felt it. In bed later, Clare reminds Margie of a dead boy who the older sister promised to marry. Long story short, the boy is haunting them because Margie promise to marry him years ago, and he's come for vengeance because Margie is engaged to Ned.

It's very overwrought, and certainly not of the modern horror style. Enter a priest, and a medium, and there you go. The expected happens at a cost to Margie that rids them of the spectral suitor.

Eh, not my style, and not interesting enough for posting on the book thread.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 06:55 AM (1Ff7Z)

71 mornin yall. I stopped believin' about 1981.

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 06:55 AM (MWfyi)

72 Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2026 06:50 AM (sAmhv)

Don't despair... hockey season starts in mid-September.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2026 06:56 AM (3Ope8)

73 Closing detention centers because we are no longer having to hold them as long perhaps?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2026 06:57 AM (afJtY)

74 The GAINZZ playlist seems to be skewing to 2000s metal core this morning.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 06, 2026 06:58 AM (UoWyB)

75 Oh, he was sensible enough to be afraid, but his knowledge and courage were up to the task.

I loved the moment when he went after Angel.

Buffy: "He took the weapons."
Xander: "They're right there."
Buffy: "No, those are the everyday weapons. He took the ones he breaks out when company comes."
Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026


***
That episode, "Passion," is probably the greatest of the entire series. Shocking, horrifying, lighthearted in some places, grimly funny (as in what you quote) in others.

It served notice to viewers that even continuing, likeable characters like Jenny could be killed in the war against the vampires. We knew then, if we didn't before, that Buffy was no ordinary TV series.

Darn. Now I need to watch the entire second season again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:00 AM (wzUl9)

76 Posted by: sal at July 06, 2026 06:40 AM (f+FmA)

You are most welcome . I will pray that rough places are made smooth which is my "go to" prayer when I am not sure of circumstances.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 07:01 AM (XvETL)

77 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:01 AM (u82oZ)

78 San Franpsycho, I hope your wife is getting well!

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 07:01 AM (6wpGE)

79 Metric Kickball is basically leftism distilled into sport; the whole point is to dramatically pretend to be injured so authorities will reward you and punish your opponents.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 06, 2026 07:02 AM (UoWyB)

80 Bonchie retweeted
E.B. Beaumont
@CoachBeaumont
13h
1) Balogun is the fifth (5th) player in this WC to have a red card ban adjusted in some way to allow them to play.

2) Review of red cards is a constant in every professional soccer league and it's far from unprecedented to have the full penalty from a dodgy one removed. It's the norm for such decisions not to be final and unreviewable.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 07:03 AM (6wpGE)

81 Whoops. Time to feed the furry thugs.

Both survived the fireworks on Saturday night, albeit with some calming treats in them (Stirling still hid), and some thunder last evening as well. Dagny the little girl handles sudden noises, and the noise of the vacuum cleaner, better than her big brother does.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:04 AM (wzUl9)

82 Don’t Stop Believin’ gets all the attention but IMO that song is only the 5th best song on the Escape album (out of 10 tracks). The power of the Sopranos? I like it but in my mind Still They Ride and Mother, Father and Who’s Crying Now are all much better….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 06, 2026 07:05 AM (hxAVk)

83 My favorite Giles-Buffy scene is the last season when, after he tries to delay her so Spike can be killed, declares she no longer needs his tutelage and closes the door on his face. Great acting range by Anthony Head.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 07:06 AM (fZiTB)

84 first half of a longer tweet:
Sophia Cai
@SophiaCai99
6h
FULL timeline of the campaign to bring Balogun back, according to a half dozen U.S. government & soccer officials:
- Wednesday after U.S.-Bosnia match: Andrew Giuliani alerted Trump to the red card (Trump & Giuliani had been talking multiple times/week since start of World Cup and regularly before that.)
- Wed night: Giuliani, Lutnick and U.S. Soccer officials began activating on plans to challenge red card
- That kicked off 4 days of coordinated lobbying, legal maneuvering & diplomacy that stretched from Oval Office to Zurich
- On *Thursday* Trump dialed Gianni Infantino and asked abt FIFA’s rules around the red card decision and grounds for suspension. (They’ve known each other for 8 yrs.)
- FIFA declined to confirm any specific discussions but reiterated to POLITICO that the decision to suspend the one-match ban was made by an independent disciplinary committee.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 07:06 AM (6wpGE)

85 that's from

https://www.politico.com

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 07:07 AM (6wpGE)

86
Inside the White House push to get Folarin Balogun back on the field

President Donald Trump got involved minutes after the U.S. striker received a red card that would have banned him from a crucial match.

BY SOPHIA CAI

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 07:09 AM (6wpGE)

87 I was invited to attend the 4th of July celebration of a large multi-generational family. The widow who invited me wanted me there for several reasons. One is she is stalking and walking. Her ex-husband, father of her three daughters, was there. She dreaded us getting into a political argument.

Had a great time. Defused any political arguments by getting the ex-husband to talk about himself. At one point he called me by the name of her second ex-husband.

Fantastic food! And I got to see and even play a little pickleball. Never had seen it before. Rules seemed funny.

The kicker was

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:10 AM (u82oZ)

88 All pro sports are rigged through the officiating. There's too much money involved to allow games be determined by game-play. Kind of like voting.

Posted by: Former Pro Sports Fan at July 06, 2026 07:13 AM (Q+gd/)

89 The kicker was I got to see and even play a little pickleball. The rules seemed funny, but my willingness to play was noted.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:13 AM (u82oZ)

90 Rob Reiner came back from the dead to mock Trump. Where's Buffy when you really need her?

Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026 07:14 AM (MWfyi)

91 Salty, I have no idea what pickleball is, except that it seems to be very popular in our post-29 set. Is it something like tennis, but with vinegar-and-salt-marinated cucumbers as a reward after the game?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:15 AM (wzUl9)

92 Darn. Now I need to watch the entire second season again.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere


Amusing side note: There is a Buffy RPG and I played a campaign in it. Obviously, this took place before the main series. One player was the Slayer and everyone else had different roles.

I played The Watcher. Take a leather clad biker type with a drinking problem who is pissed off at having to be a Watcher to this 18 year old Valley Girl because his older brother got killed by demons.

My wife played the Slayer and we played off each other well.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:16 AM (/k3in)

93 San Franpsycho

Glad to hear your beloved wife is possibly being discharged today. The goal of people in the hospital is to get out of there. Not always easy.

I will have prayers ascending for you having to shoulder some of her care. And kiss her hand for me. The rest is up to you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2026 07:16 AM (u82oZ)

94 Rob Reiner came back from the dead to mock Trump. Where's Buffy when you really need her?
Posted by: fd at July 06, 2026


***
There are multiple Slayers now. One them could handle a zombie Reiner.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:17 AM (wzUl9)

95 Amusing side note: There is a Buffy RPG and I played a campaign in it. Obviously, this took place before the main series. One player was the Slayer and everyone else had different roles.

I played The Watcher. Take a leather clad biker type with a drinking problem who is pissed off at having to be a Watcher to this 18 year old Valley Girl because his older brother got killed by demons.

My wife played the Slayer and we played off each other well.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026


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That sounds like fun, and the kind of story Joss and his writers would have approved!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:18 AM (wzUl9)

96 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2026 07:19 AM (VyBeY)

97 That sounds like fun, and the kind of story Joss and his writers would have approved!

Give you an idea of the sniping.

"Princess, is there ANYTHING you could be doing right now that doesn't involve irritating me?"

"Nope. Can't think of a thing!"

"Go find some vampires!"

"But it's totally daytime right now!"

"Find some daytime vampires! I'm sure they exist!"

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:19 AM (/k3in)

98 24> Are we really going to outsource the battlefield of this country to the consensus view in Silicon Valley? That is effing insane.

Google employees did this back in 2016 when DoD asked Google to help them use their AI for drone targeting. The employees threatened to strike if Google didn't pull out.

Google pulled out. The employees vetoed the US's ability dominate the battle field. We have been insane for decades.

Posted by: Community Notes at July 06, 2026 07:20 AM (nCgQz)

99 Breakfast: a beef & bean burrito with green chile, a little cheddar cheese and chili powder on top, and maybe a slice of toast and honey. I'll finish my pipe and then take my shower. Maybe drop in on the Morning News thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:20 AM (wzUl9)

100 100

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 07:21 AM (6wpGE)

101 Have it on authority that the average Gen Z earns more money, adjusted for inflation, than any prior generation.

....unnecessary things like 95% of the apps on their phones. Moreover, vacations and nice restaurants were once considered luxuries.
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I've mentioned 'trinkets' before.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 07:21 AM (GebTj)

102 Give you an idea of the sniping.

"Princess, is there ANYTHING you could be doing right now that doesn't involve irritating me?"

"Nope. Can't think of a thing!"

"Go find some vampires!"

"But it's totally daytime right now!"

"Find some daytime vampires! I'm sure they exist!"
Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026


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* Applause * Buffy-style dialog, for sure!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:22 AM (wzUl9)

103 * Applause * Buffy-style dialog, for sure!

Thank you sir. It was a lot of fun.

Google pulled out. The employees vetoed the US's ability dominate the battle field.

And they would have squealed like school girls if China had asked them to do the same thing.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 06, 2026 07:24 AM (/k3in)

104 ICE is closing 7 of 11 detention facilities. Deportation focus is now strictly on those with criminal records. Mass deportation is no longer (if it ever was) the objective.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 06:35 AM (fZiTB)


What if they're closing the detention facilities because they've won the court cases which were requiring them to detain deportees for long periods of time (which they have), and so they no longer require them?

No, it's just a betrayal of the American people.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 06, 2026 07:25 AM (ExV1e)

105 Good morning, sock_rat_eeze and all here! I hope your days all go as smoothly as possible.
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This was a flower we saw on our walk yesterday. We didn't actually go very far because it was about. 89 degrees in the morning which was too warm to walk, but I may be a pansy and not the flower .

Moth mullein . It is used to help with respiratory problems. I just find it fascinating how many plants and flowers were used medicinally over the centuries

https://tinyurl.com/485erpsu

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026 07:25 AM (D+BhG)

106 Moth mullein . It is used to help with respiratory problems. I just find it fascinating how many plants and flowers were used medicinally over the centuries

https://tinyurl.com/485erpsu
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2026


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That was part of the wisdom of the "wise women" in earlier ages, I guess.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2026 07:28 AM (wzUl9)

107 Community Notes
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Now Sam Altman and his bunk buddy are pulling it and cheating their clients out of their IP and charging them for it. Karp is very pro Israel, therefore, pro-America. He wants warfighters us and Israel (he's mentioned one other country that he perceives as a true ally) to have the best and also apply his skills to degrade other countries abilities.

To have a techie aggressively American, like Musk, is refreshing even if he gets so animated it's hard to keep up.

Also, in his own way, he puts his company, product, and people in front of personal monetary gain.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 07:30 AM (GebTj)

108 I have no idea what pickleball is,"

Count one's blessings there...

Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 07:33 AM (XuXeR)

109 I have no idea what pickleball is,"

Count one's blessings there...
Posted by: man at July 06, 2026 07:33 AM (XuXeR)

Paddle tennis.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 07:33 AM (1Ff7Z)

110 JJ up

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 06, 2026 07:34 AM (qFwJc)

111 Piclkeball is a leading cause of injury to middle age and elderly.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 07:40 AM (GebTj)

112 Buffy gets a lot more interesting once you realize that Buffy is Marti Noxon and whatever vampire she's f*cking at the time is Joss Whedon.

Noxon came up with the entire concept, Whedon either stole or developed the idea depending on who you ask, Whedon was banging every female cast member and Noxon, and when he left Buffy after 3rd season to focus on Angel (and Charisma Carpenter) he left the show entirely in the hands of a bitter, jilted Noxon. And boy, does it show.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at July 06, 2026 07:43 AM (LgYtf)

113 Companies making the heaviest use of AI are... Hiring the most humans?

… 2 words … “paperless office”

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 07:51 AM (byv/B)

114 Posted by: Daniel Ream at July 06, 2026 07:43 AM (LgYtf)

Have you forgotten that Whedon developed the concept first as a film several years before Noxon had anything to do with it?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2026 07:58 AM (fZiTB)

115 >Have you forgotten that Whedon developed the concept first as a film several years before Noxon had anything to do with it?

Noxon claims she shopped the idea around unsuccessfully prior to the film, only to see Whedon pick it up and run with it. Everyone involved with Buffy is still very cagey about a lot of what went on behind the camera; that Whedon is the father of Charisma Carpenter's child is still the worst kept secret in Hollywood, and it's only since Whedon's reputation (and power) has waned that the Buffy cast is talking about things like the mutual agreement to never leave the underage Michelle Trachtenberg alone in a room with Whedon.

Personally, the film and TV show are so different that I tend to believe Noxon's lying about the film but that the TV show's unique style was as much Noxon as Whedon, if not more so.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at July 06, 2026 08:31 AM (LgYtf)

116 Key Points

- Microsoft is laying off 4,800 employees after carrying out a voluntary retirement program.
- The company’s Xbox video game unit is cutting one-fifth of its staff, and four studios will go independent.
- Microsoft’s stock is down 19% this year as of Friday’s close, trailing its megacap peers.

Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2026 12:33 PM (RHGPo)

Sunday Celestial Bodies ONT - July 5, 2026 [Hour of the Wolf]

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Time to take another whack at creating an ONT. Let's see if I've learned anything, shall we?

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Galileo

Galileo was a NASA exploration spacecraft launched October 18, 1989, from Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on space shuttle Atlantis (STS-34). It crashed into Jupiter on September 21, 2003, after completing its primary mission, and three secondary missions.

Top 10 Science Results
• The descent probe measured atmospheric elements and found that their relative abundances were different than on the Sun, indicating Jupiter's evolution since the planet formed out of the solar nebula.
• Galileo made a first observation of ammonia clouds in another planet's atmosphere.The atmosphere seems to create ammonia ice particles of material from lower depths, but only in "fresh" clouds.
• Io's extensive volcanic activity may be 100 times greater than that found on Earth's.The heat and frequency of eruption are reminiscent of early Earth.
• Io's complex plasma interactions in Io's atmosphere include support for currents and coupling to Jupiter's atmosphere.
• Evidence supports a theory that liquid oceans exist under Europa's icy surface.
• Ganymede is the first satellite known to possess a magnetic field.
• Galileo magnetic data provide evidence that Europa, Ganymede and Callisto have a liquid-saltwater layer.
• Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto all provide evidence of a thin atmospheric layer known as a 'surface-bound exosphere'.
• Jupiter's ring system is formed by dust kicked up as interplanetary meteoroids smash into the planet's four small inner moons. The outermost ring is actually two rings, one embedded with the other.
• Galileo was the first spacecraft to dwell in a giant planet magnetosphere long enough to identify its global structure and to investigate its dynamics.

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(Mystery click with more impressive sport?)

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My doctor told me I need to find a "low-impact hobby" to help me relax. I told him I've taken up professional napping.
He asked if I was getting any results, and I told him "I'm currently ranked #1 in the bedroom, but the competition from my cat is fierce. She has better form and doesn't snore as loud".
He didn't write me a prescription, but he did look like he wanted to join the league.

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A woman went to the doctor's office and was seen by one of the new young doctors. After about four minutes in the examiniation room, she started screaming and ran down the hall. An older doctor stopped her what the problem was, and she told him her story. After listening, he told her to sit down and relax in another room.
The older doctor marched down the hallway to the back where the first doctor was and demanded, "What's the matter with you? Mrs. Terry is 63 years old, she has four grown children and seven grandchildren, and you told her she was pregnant?"
The new doctor continued to write on his clipboard and, without looking up, said, "Does she still have the hiccups?"

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Godzilla, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot stomp on, courage to shoot them with atomic breath, and wisdom to do a big roar afterwards.

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'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)

It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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Gentle Readers of these United Colonies,

In this most auspicious time when the Continental Congress hath declared these Colonies free and independent States, the fashionable world yet turns its gaze to the latest modes. Though the drums of liberty beat loudly in our streets, the ladies and gentlemen of taste continue to adorn themselves with elegance befitting persons of quality. News of the newest toilettes from London and Paris (and such as may be had from our own clever mantua-makers) arrives even amid these stirring times.

For the Fair Sex: The Graceful Polonaise and Towering Coiffure

The mode most admired this summer among ladies of fashion is the Robe à la Polonaise. The overskirt is looped into graceful swags by means of cords or ribbons, falling in elegant drapery over a contrasting petticoat. This creates a charming, picturesque silhouette, neither so stiff as the old sack-back nor so plain as the new English styles. Striped silks and floral chintzes are all the rage, as are light muslins for the warmer months.

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Stays continue to mould the figure into the fashionable conical shape, while wide hips are supported by panniers or hip rolls (somewhat reduced from former years, yet still essential to the mode). A fine fichu of lace or muslin crosses the bosom, and large hats with wide brims shade the face most becomingly.

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The hair, or coiffure, remains a subject of much discourse. Powdered white or ash, it is built high upon pads and frames, sometimes reaching extraordinary heights. Feathers, ribbons, artificial flowers, and even small ornaments are placed with artful care. A lady may appear a walking garden or a miniature ship at full sail, most becoming at assemblies and balls.

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For Gentlemen of Fashion: The Frock Coat and Embroidered Waistcoat

Gentlemen of taste favour the frock coat of fine wool or silk, cut with skirts that fall gracefully. Beneath lies a long waistcoat, often richly embroidered in gold or silver thread upon grounds of crimson, blue, or green. Knee breeches, white silk stockings, and shoes fastened with handsome silver or paste buckles complete the toilette.

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The hair is powdered and dressed in a queue or bag-wig, surmounted by the tricorn hat cocked with becoming smartness. Ruffles of fine linen at throat and wrist add the final touch of gentility.

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In These Times of Liberty

While many worthy patriots now wear garments of good American homespun, plain yet honest and serviceable, the assemblies and levees of Philadelphia and New York still display the full splendour of European modes. A lady in her striped polonaise or a gentleman in his embroidered waistcoat lends grace and gaiety even to these momentous days.

Thus, dear readers, whether you celebrate independence with a glass of Madeira or attend a private ball, may your attire be as elegant as your principles are just.

Yours in the latest mode,

The Fashion Correspondent

Philadelphia, this Fifth Day of July, 1776

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Thanks, Colonist Piper!

In 250 years, be sure to check out Colonist Piper's X page.


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Tune Time!

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Tonight's ONT brought to you by voices

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Try the veal. I'll be here most of the night!

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:00 PM




Comments

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1 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 05, 2026 10:00 PM (+9wcF)

2 Wait!
They haven’t finished putting the P-38 together.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:02 PM (vC80E)

3 Evenin’, All.

We just need commonsense frozen-squirrel control.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:02 PM (77rzZ)

4 I won't guess first, but gotta be top 10!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 10:02 PM (edUvp)

5 First?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 10:02 PM (sKqQm)

6 A frozen squirrel as a weapon?

That's just nuts.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 05, 2026 10:03 PM (NXz0i)

7 Right on time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 10:03 PM (u/oMr)

8 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 05, 2026 10:04 PM (NXz0i)

9 Nobody should need more than one frozen squirrel a month.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:05 PM (77rzZ)

10 And here comes Tonypete with the insults.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:06 PM (77rzZ)

11 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 05, 2026 10:06 PM (w3u3d)

12 Local fireworks rescheduled for tonight. I debate whether I have the energy to go over to the park vs just sauntering to the best viewpoint I can find on my block...

Posted by: RandomDave at July 05, 2026 10:06 PM (aJQbY)

13 Stays continue to mould the figure into the fashionable conical shape, while wide hips are supported by panniers or hip rolls (somewhat reduced from former years, yet still essential to the mode). A fine fichu of lace or muslin crosses the bosom, and large hats with wide brims shade the face most becomingly.

Or...you know, yoga pants and a sports bra.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 10:06 PM (Riz8t)

14 Florida Man could have been nasty, and used a frozen porcupine.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (qx7Zg)

15 Sorry I'm late, I was taking the training wheels off the Harley.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (ZWAWS)

16 So if the Waffle House is in Fla, may we assume the squirrel was artificially frozen? Perhaps, frozen in a premeditated manner? Oh, this was no happenstance frozen squirrel, my friends.

Posted by: Det Cpt Hercule Obvious at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (w/O5Q)

17 Hello!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (OoFl2)

18 Good evening morons e grazie Hour of the Wolf

Does anybody else have a voice in their head?
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Yes!
/in unison

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (RIvkX)

19 Until this day I had no idea Betsy Ross was such a hottie.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (u/oMr)

20 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (sAmhv)

21 I went to fireworks displays and got...10 mosquitos bites.

The most impressive one was a bite through my mesh chair and pants.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (sKqQm)

22 Colonial Couture?
Gotta' get a drink for this.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:08 PM (vC80E)

23 July 5, 1954-- Elvis Presley records "That's Alright, Mama"

The world as we used to know was never quite the same.

https://youtu.be/140N1nGiVfw

Posted by: tankdemon at July 05, 2026 10:08 PM (ZWAWS)

24 Meow
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat


* checks disclaimer *

Shouldn't that be "Lawyer Cheshirecat?"

Posted by: mikeski at July 05, 2026 10:08 PM (VHUov)

25 Greetings, fair Piper, and thank you for the insightful fashion news. How well did Ace's Time Machine work while you did your research?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:09 PM (qx7Zg)

26 Piper utterly fascinating colonial fashion porn.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10:09 PM (RIvkX)

27 I'm guessing the guy in the painting is holding a telescope, but I suppose it could be some sort of Georgian era sex toy.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 10:09 PM (Riz8t)

28 At last - a fashion report I can comment on!

Posted by: Colonial Lurker at July 05, 2026 10:10 PM (xPLOK)

29 Piper, your fashion segment this evening is... revolutionary.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 05, 2026 10:10 PM (+9wcF)

30 25 Greetings, fair Piper, and thank you for the insightful fashion news. How well did Ace's Time Machine work while you did your research?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:09 PM

I was surprised he let me borrow it! I think he was distracted by crows and not really listening.

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:10 PM (OoFl2)

31 Blythe Danner as Martha Jefferson. Yum.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:10 PM (77rzZ)

32 Ganymede is the first satellite known to possess a magnetic field.

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How else would he have caught Zeus's lustful eye?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 10:11 PM (u/oMr)

33 This seems a perfectly acceptable ONT post. Better than having to suffer through an OrangeEnt ONT. (shudder)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 10:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

34 26 Piper utterly fascinating colonial fashion porn.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026

Thank you. How is your wife?

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:11 PM (OoFl2)

35 Galileo was a NASA exploration spacecraft launched October 18, 1989, from Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on space shuttle Atlantis (STS-34). It crashed into Jupiter on September 21, 2003

Just think, if they ever name a satellite after Pete Buttigieg, they'll crash it into Uranus.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 10:12 PM (Riz8t)

36 Your music selections are perfect!! Well done. I can listen to that Hank Jr. song on a loop! Alas, I am listening to Ella Langley on a loop. I'll get over it. Probably.

youtu.be/sV_8fFSGUyI

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 05, 2026 10:12 PM (sAmhv)

37 29 Piper, your fashion segment this evening is... revolutionary.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 05

Ha!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:12 PM (OoFl2)

38 Evening HOTW, and to ONT 'rons and 'ettes!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:14 PM (1z8ji)

39 ***(and such as may be had from our own clever mantua-makers)
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He's got the telescope and she's got the floral wreath.
Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:14 PM (vC80E)

40 Happy 250th + 1 day!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 05, 2026 10:15 PM (gqKkr)

41 Next, Piper works the Continental Army into shape.

“OK, Everyone, 500 jumping jacks!”

“And that goes for you too, Von Steuben!”

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:15 PM (77rzZ)

42 Galileo was a NASA exploration spacecraft launched October 18, 1989, from Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on space shuttle Atlantis (STS-34). It crashed into Jupiter on September 21, 2003

Just think, if they ever name a satellite after Pete Buttigieg, they'll crash it into Uranus.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 10:12 PM (Riz8t)

It will have to come to a full stop for 2-3 months shortly after launch, then travel like a pinball before it gets there.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:16 PM (qx7Zg)

43 The hair is powdered and dressed in a queue or bag-wig, surmounted by the tricorn hat cocked with becoming smartness. Ruffles of fine linen at throat and wrist add the final touch of gentility.
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You know who else wore a tricorner hat?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10:16 PM (RIvkX)

44 He's got the telescope and she's got the floral wreath.
Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:14 PM (vC80E)

(pumps fist in triumph)

We're playing hoop and spear tonight!

Posted by: He said pointedly at July 05, 2026 10:17 PM (1Ff7Z)

45 Thanks for the educational and entertaining ONT, Hour of the Wolf!

And thanks to Piper for a most fitting and illuminating Fashion Thread. So glad we don't have to wear all those layers of clothing!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 05, 2026 10:17 PM (D/6p1)

46
You know who else wore a tricorner hat?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10

Pirates!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:17 PM (OoFl2)

47 Next, Piper works the Continental Army into shape.

“OK, Everyone, 500 jumping jacks!”

“And that goes for you too, Von Steuben!”
Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:15 PM (77rzZ)

Does Weasel improve their marksmanship by releasing a few hundred wild turkeys? The order of instruction is that, if they kill it, they get to eat it?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:18 PM (qx7Zg)

48 England 2-1 but with only 10 on field

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 10:18 PM (K7yuL)

49 48 England 2-1 but with only 10 on field
Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 10:18 PM (K7yuL)

I hope they knock MX out. Bunch of thugs.

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:19 PM (OoFl2)

50 It's dark here, so more fireworks are getting launched.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:20 PM (qx7Zg)

51 American men dressed like that? Ugh! Wigs and stockings?
I refuse to believe it. Those are Euro-men not American men.

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 10:20 PM (IY9No)

52 Uranus is the British planet.
Discovered by Flamsteed (as "34 Tauri") and then confirmed by Herschel.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 10:21 PM (K7yuL)

53 What a game this is.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 10:21 PM (K7yuL)

54 “Von Steuben, you fatty, drop and give me 50!”

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:21 PM (77rzZ)

55 Thanks for asking. Mrs. F. took her first solid food today and is no longer taking the antiemetic, so she is a lot more conscious too. First real improvement since this whole awful episode began. If it sticks she may be d/c tomorrow. b"h

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM (RIvkX)

56 @bennyjohnson

Trump did this right over Mandami’s head
as the dirty little communist was sitting at George Washington’s desk backwards
bitching about not having sharia law in America surrounded by crying women in hijabs

https://tinyurl.com/bd7anvmf

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM (vC80E)

57 So what was the rationale behind tricorne hats, and why did they fall out of fashion, and seem to have never made a comeback?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM (1z8ji)

58 American men dressed like that? Ugh! Wigs and stockings?
I refuse to believe it. Those are Euro-men not American men.
Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 10:20 PM (IY9No)
* * * *
Indeed, they did! And they most likely spoke with *gasp!* an English accent!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 05, 2026 10:24 PM (D/6p1)

59 So, we’re still talking about Euroball?

What, does no one have any good soufflé recipes to share?

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:24 PM (77rzZ)

60 Great thread Love the fashions!

Posted by: LASue at July 05, 2026 10:26 PM (lCppi)

61 Read that a judge has nixed the red card thing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:26 PM (vC80E)

62 The more things change, the more they stay the same; ergo, the big platinum hair pic is very reminiscent of my big Texas hair era, circa Urban Cowboy and JR Ewing. Not platinum though. I could have gone through a car wash with every hair in place due to the amount of hairspray I had to use. Good times, good times.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 05, 2026 10:26 PM (SjAWL)

63 * *
Indeed, they did! And they most likely spoke with *gasp!* an English accent!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 05, 2026 10:24 PM

Technically, we have the accent.

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:28 PM (OoFl2)

64 Local fireworks rescheduled for tonight.

Now that you mention it, we would normally have a few stragglers blowing off leftovers about now but it's quiet. On the other hand, they did run an hour or so longer last night than in past years but it's only once every 50 years or so, so what the hell.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 10:28 PM (vTZFs)

65 55 Thanks for asking. Mrs. F. took her first solid food today and is no longer taking the antiemetic, so she is a lot more conscious too. First real improvement since this whole awful episode began. If it sticks she may be d/c tomorrow. b"h
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM (RIvkX)

Oh that is much better news. Continued prayers!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:29 PM (OoFl2)

66 Technically, we have the accent.

Posted by: Piper
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shhhh

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:29 PM (vC80E)

67 I’m enjoying the Padres beating the Dodgers.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 10:30 PM (yEz+x)

68 Posted by: Open Blogger

A very serviceable and adequate ONT, Mr Blogger.😀

Piper's essay: We need more women in outlandish hats outside of the Derby.

Posted by: mindful webworker hearing fireworks and the dog barking at July 05, 2026 10:30 PM (tQ0hn)

69 Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM,
-

Good news,

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:31 PM (vC80E)

70 63. Nope. RP is a 19th-century affectation.

Screw Oxbridge. Screw the Ivy League.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:31 PM (77rzZ)

71 68 Posted by: Open Blogger

A very serviceable and adequate ONT, Mr Blogger.😀

Piper's essay: We need more women in outlandish hats outside of the Derby.
Posted by: mindful webworker hearing fireworks and the dog barking at July 05

And sailing ships in our hair! With pearls.

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:31 PM (OoFl2)

72 I hope they knock MX out. Bunch of thugs.

Oregon Public Broadcasting did an article about the city of Woodburn in Oregon, which is heavily Hispanic, and of course has been suffering under the boot of Trump and ICE.

But now, Woodburn is united in happiness- cheering for the Mexican soccer team.

I'm not sure if OPB thought through the message that this sends...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 05, 2026 10:31 PM (aD4fx)

73 Kane got a bullshit yellow card

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 10:32 PM (buFED)

74 Thanks for the content, Sir Wolf! Appreciate the night off.

Thanks to you too, Colonist Piper!

Posted by: Doof at July 05, 2026 10:32 PM (R/fPf)

75 SanFranPsycho

Been thinking of you and praying for you and your sweet beloved wife.

Please be comforted. Your family is cherished. Thank you for sharing your victories and your hardships.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (yEz+x)

76 Good to hear, SanFranP.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (77rzZ)

77 56 @bennyjohnson

Trump did this right over Mandami’s head
as the dirty little communist was sitting at George Washington’s desk backwards
bitching about not having sharia law in America surrounded by crying women in hijabs

https://tinyurl.com/bd7anvmf

Posted by: Braenyard



'Murica!!
LOL!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (sAmhv)

78 I think natural gas heaters, heaters in cars and less necessity to do things (walk from one place to another) outside put hats out of business.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (vC80E)

79 Hour of the Wolf did a great job! Maybe I will lean on him for my vacation next week. Fashion in the Future could be a theme!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (OoFl2)

80 Sanchez got a yellow too.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (buFED)

81 Hour of the Wolf did a great job! Maybe I will lean on him for my vacation next week. Fashion in the Future could be a theme!
Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (OoFl2)


Nobody authorized a vacation for you.

Posted by: Doof at July 05, 2026 10:35 PM (R/fPf)

82 So am I getting boofed?

Posted by: gKWVE , lord of the hashes at July 05, 2026 10:36 PM (buFED)

83 I’d rather watch footage of Schembechler losing the Rose Bowl than watch soccer.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:36 PM (77rzZ)

84 I LOL'ed at the World Cup Foosball table.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:36 PM (1z8ji)

85 In my old neighborhood there was a grocery store about every two blocks. Everyone walked to the store; walked most everywhere. There was a cafe four blocks one way and three the other.
All of that was gone before I was a teen. The world changed.
It's changing again. It's just beginning.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:37 PM (vC80E)

86 81 Hour of the Wolf did a great job! Maybe I will lean on him for my vacation next week. Fashion in the Future could be a theme!
Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (OoFl2)

Nobody authorized a vacation for you.
Posted by: Doof at July 05, 2026 10:35 PM

Well if I can get out of a vacation with my J’s mom, plus 2 moody teenagers on a technicality…

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:37 PM (OoFl2)

87 Hour Of The Wolf,
Outstanding Ont. thank you!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 10:38 PM (yEz+x)

88 88 England Mexico is one of the most amazing games ever.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 05, 2026

It’s crazy! Come on England!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:39 PM (OoFl2)

89 Part of yestereve's Independence Day celebrations included a relatively brief but impressively strong thunderstorm.

Out here south of town, we had plenty of lightning to accompany the late fireworks, and plenty of tree branches downed all over the yard. Nature's pruning methods are harsh.

But in-town got it much worse. Trees felled, electricity interrupted, and localized flooding. Son's yard got all that, and they say the juice will be turned back on by Midnight. The roof on Daughter's ballet center was ripped off, and in the morning they found two inches of rain on the floor. Hoping all their valuable videotapes on the second floor survived. I haven't heard about other damages in town, but there surely were some.

Neighbors are still popping fireworks steadily this evening. Daisy dog was fine with them last night, but she was with many people and a couple of other dogs. Today it's just her usual humans. I guess she thinks she has to defend us. Finally had so many kabooms she gave up on the barking back.

America!!

Posted by: mindful webworker enjoying leftovers from yesterday's picnic basket at July 05, 2026 10:40 PM (tQ0hn)

90 Okay that was weird….

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:40 PM (OoFl2)

91 Piper, you have to see the movie "Young Washington" if only for the costumes. The woman's gowns during the ballroom dance scene are beautiful and very much like the photos you posted, and the men's military suits look very accurate.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 05, 2026 10:41 PM (y171U)

92 Well if I can get out of a vacation with my J’s mom, plus 2 moody teenagers on a technicality…

Posted by: Piper
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Contract labor gets no vacation.
If you're not going to show you must provide
adequate replacement.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:41 PM (vC80E)

93 Thanks for asking. Mrs. F. took her first solid food today and is no longer taking the antiemetic, so she is a lot more conscious too. First real improvement since this whole awful episode began. If it sticks she may be d/c tomorrow. b"h
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM (RIvkX)

Any chance that Mrs. F's problems were the result of DEI incompetence, or worse, a deliberate act by an Antifa, or musloid type?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:41 PM (1z8ji)

94 Gotta change the subject from soccer.

So, BOOBS!

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:41 PM (77rzZ)

95 I was trying to figure out the breakdown of political prisoners between England and Scotland so I tried googling. The answers google provided:

1) AI Answer: Britain has no political prisoners according to established human rights organizations

2) Guardian: Britain has Environment and Palestinian political prisoners

3) British government: The only people arrested in Britain have committed serious offenses

4) The Independent (from 2024 for some reason): The government is making a mistake in giving racists shorter sentences for protesting the Southport stabbing

Of course I did this search after watching the British police arrest a guy for saying Muhammed committed genocide. They told him specifically that is why he was being arrested. Note the Koran also says Muhammed commited genocide

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 10:41 PM (sKqQm)

96 Frozen squirrel as a weapon? WTF, did he have it in his back pocket?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 10:42 PM (S41Gd)

97 Hour of the Wolf did a great job! Maybe I will lean on him for my vacation next week. Fashion in the Future could be a theme!
Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:33 PM (OoFl2)

Nobody authorized a vacation for you.
Posted by: Doof at July 05, 2026 10:35 PM (R/fPf)

Perhaps you should ask Bulg to do it, based on women's fashions from Battlestar Gallactica from 1978, Buck Roger's in the 25th Century, or Flash (the one with Ornella Muti).

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (qx7Zg)

98 A while back I decided to hand feed a squirrel. I put on my work gloves and put a peanut in my fingers and held it out. He came out and...bit right through the glove. Fortunately there was slack room in the gloves so I feel the tooth go through but not into me.

I realized at that point squirrels can't see very well up close because of their eye structure.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (sKqQm)

99 The Koran does not say Muhammad committed genocide, it only says the kaffirs deserve it

Posted by: gKWVE , lord of the hashes at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (buFED)

100 Any chance that Mrs. F's problems were the result of DEI incompetence, or worse, a deliberate act by an Antifa, or musloid type?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Two different places in US; articles on muslin nurses saying they would not provide and one saying would let the Jew die.
They are currently unemployed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (vC80E)

101 Hi, Piper!

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:45 PM (77rzZ)

102 In Europe, motorcycle saddlebags are referred to as "panniers".

Imagine if they'd made a different choice: "This bikes hip rolls have a 2 liter capacity each."

Posted by: buddhaha at July 05, 2026 10:46 PM (iaABv)

103 I realized at that point squirrels can't see very well up close because of their eye structure.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (sKqQm)

Well, that, and also that they are obligate carnivores.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:46 PM (1z8ji)

104 @bennyjohnson

Trump did this right over Mandami’s head
as the dirty little communist was sitting at George Washington’s desk backwards
bitching about not having sharia law in America surrounded by crying women in hijabs

https://tinyurl.com/bd7anvmf

Posted by: Braenyard

He should have dropped a fucking MOAB on that asshole. Happy 250th you driftwood piece of shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 10:46 PM (S41Gd)

105 97 My fashion thread would consist only of bikinis. On very well-endowed women.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:47 PM (77rzZ)

106 16 So if the Waffle House is in Fla, may we assume the squirrel was artificially frozen? Perhaps, frozen in a premeditated manner? Oh, this was no happenstance frozen squirrel, my friends.
Posted by: Det Cpt Hercule Obvious


He must have gotten the squirrel out of the Waffle House freezer. Makes you wonder what they might be grinding up and putting in their sausage.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 05, 2026 10:47 PM (0Htd1)

107 So what was the rationale behind tricorne hats, and why did they fall out of fashion, and seem to have never made a comeback?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM (1z8ji)

This guy will tell you about it:

https://tinyurl.com/yzy27y3d

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 10:48 PM (1Ff7Z)

108
4) The Independent (from 2024 for some reason): The government is making a mistake in giving racists shorter sentences for protesting the Southport stabbing

Of course I did this search after watching the British police arrest a guy for saying Muhammed committed genocide. They told him specifically that is why he was being arrested. Note the Koran also says Muhammed commited genocide

Posted by: 18-1
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This was from Karoline Leavitt

https://tinyurl.com/kpbbdvx7

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:48 PM (vC80E)

109 Tricorn hats were actually pretty cool.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:49 PM (77rzZ)

110 Wow, #94 and #97 work well together.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:49 PM (qx7Zg)

111 Well, that, and also that they are obligate carnivores.

Well, we do like to eat nuts...

Posted by: Some squirrel looking at your pants at July 05, 2026 10:49 PM (sKqQm)

112 My dad said one factor in the decline of hats was simply the fact that post war cars - new models didn’t really start until ‘47 and ‘48, somewhere in there - into the 1950s especially, they were much more sleek, if not smaller, and there was no room to wear a hat whilst motoring about.


I read an interesting book about Valley Forge. The Congress was made aware of the deplorable condition of the troops but they were disinclined to spend any money. They were without proper clothing, even boots or shoes, and barely fed.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 10:50 PM (IZ5Pv)

113 Personally, I would love to wear the outfit that Colin Firth wore in "Pride and Prejudice," in the scene that he finds Lizzy Bennett at Pemberley. Green and tan. Boots.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 10:50 PM (qFwJc)

114 Two different places in US; articles on muslin nurses saying they would not provide and one saying would let the Jew die.
They are currently unemployed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (vC80E)

Not good enough. Dead, or aboard a slow boat to Shitcanistan.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:50 PM (1z8ji)

115 America!!
Posted by: mindful webworker enjoying leftovers from yesterday's picnic basket at July 05, 2026 10:40 PM

I hope the studio is okay, and the floors can be saved!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:50 PM (OoFl2)

116 Frozen squirrel as a weapon? WTF, did he have it in his back pocket?
Posted by: Berserker


In his squirrel thermos, surely.

Posted by: mikeski at July 05, 2026 10:53 PM (VHUov)

117 91 Piper, you have to see the movie "Young Washington" if only for the costumes. The woman's gowns during the ballroom dance scene are beautiful and very much like the photos you posted, and the men's military suits look very accurate.
Posted by: Joemarine at July 05, 2026

I will definitely take a look!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:53 PM (OoFl2)

118 Hi Bulg!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 10:53 PM (OoFl2)

119 110 🙂

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:53 PM (77rzZ)

120 Well, Wolf, you had me at Foreigner, Brad Paisley and the Florida Man with the frozen squirrel.

Thank you and Piper for the ONT.

Piper...thanks be to God we don't have to wear all of those layers now. I'd surely die from everyone's BO and my own heat (but I'd never have BO). The hair alone would make me completely loco, and yellowjackets would get trapped in there and kill me. Altho some of it is lovely (the clothing).

My late brother could have been a professional bass fisherman. Daily or twice daily fishin' living on our father's lake. He'd patiently take our sons when they were small and I'd patiently pay him for the lures that are still probably in trees down there. He never threw the boys out of the boat.

My little brother looks like the twin of Brad Paisley. I know Brad and his cute wife are probably flaming liberals, but he's naturally witty and he made up his mind to date her when he saw her in a movie, which is sweet.

I totally love romantic stories like this because while ours is happy and forever it was rather bizarre in the making and no wine or roses. Coors and watching for the first snowflake at the top of a mountain in an ancient car was our story. No regrets.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 05, 2026 10:54 PM (hzuYO)

121 This guy will tell you about it:

https://tinyurl.com/yzy27y3d
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 10:48 PM (1Ff7Z)

I could not stay with it long enough to get his story. Annoying presenter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:54 PM (1z8ji)

122 Nicely done Piper!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 10:54 PM (2WIwB)

123 62 The more things change, the more they stay the same; ergo, the big platinum hair pic is very reminiscent of my big Texas hair era, circa Urban Cowboy and JR Ewing. Not platinum though. I could have gone through a car wash with every hair in place due to the amount of hairspray I had to use. Good times, good times.
Posted by: TxAnn

Ladybird Johnson's hair looked like a helmet.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 05, 2026 10:54 PM (0Htd1)

124 This was from Karoline Leavitt

https://tinyurl.com/kpbbdvx7


The other big one from the last few days is a white kid being attacked by a group of black guys.

One guy knocks him down.
A second one punches him the head while he is trying to get up.
Then a bobbie-ette flies in and throws the white kid up against the wall hitting him from the side.
He thew a punch that slightly hit her and you can see his eyes pop open when he realized it was a cop not a member of the gang but she arrests him anyway.
Her partner had gone to the group of black guys, talked with them, and then came back and threw the white kid in the police car roughly.

My guess is the claim is the lone white kid said something rayciss so the mobbing was ok.

Note almost 100% of the leftists commenting on the story claim this was good policing because the kid threw a punch at a cop and the fact he was being mobbed 1s before she threw him against the wall has no baring on his arrest.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 10:55 PM (sKqQm)

125 Hour Of The Wolf,
Outstanding Ont. thank you!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 10:38 PM (yEz+x)

Thank you. I think they're getting better. Doof has two more, but I think I need to change out the news section. It might depress Beckoning Chasm.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 10:55 PM (qx7Zg)

126
Herschel wanted to name Uranus after George III, "Georgium Sidus". Needless to say, that did not fly outside of Britain. Of course, it would confirm that George III was an asshole.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 10:56 PM (w6EFb)

127 Indeed, they did! And they most likely spoke with *gasp!* an English accent!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 05, 2026 10:24 PM

Technically, we have the accent.
Posted by: Piper
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Not really. There's a u tube out there about this very subject, and, according to it, American Mid-Atlantic is closer to the English spoken in Parliament in 1776 than any of today's Brit accents. The drift in the UK toward broad As and stretched Rs was driven by a desire by the upper classes to distinguish themselves from the ordinary people.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 05, 2026 10:57 PM (iaABv)

128 Trump did this right over Mandami’s head
as the dirty little communist was sitting at George Washington’s desk backwards
bitching about not having sharia law in America surrounded by crying women in hijabs

https://tinyurl.com/bd7anvmf

Posted by: Braenyard

He should have dropped a fucking MOAB on that asshole. Happy 250th you driftwood piece of shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 10:46 PM (S41Gd)

***

That photo was deliberately staged to be as insulting as possible. Mandami is a nasty POS.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 10:57 PM (2WIwB)

129 Evening, all.

Thanks for the fashions, Piper. Some of the late 18th century clothing was really lovely.

Posted by: sal at July 05, 2026 10:58 PM (f+FmA)

130 Weird. Was unable to open the ONT on my phone.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 10:59 PM (2WIwB)

131 There's a u tube out there about this very subject, and, according to it, American Mid-Atlantic is closer to the English spoken in Parliament in 1776 than any of today's Brit accents. The drift in the UK toward broad As and stretched Rs was driven by a desire by the upper classes to distinguish themselves from the ordinary people.

Posted by: buddhaha
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Right.
That's why Brits do Southern accents so well.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:00 PM (vC80E)

132
There were many "precoveries" of Uranus well before -- they just thought it was a dim star. The earliest most probable is Hipparchus, who observed and catalogued it back in 128 BC. There is no star at that position, and that's about where Uranus would've been then.

Flamsteed was the first to definitely, no question about observe Uranus in 1690, and six times later. Again, he thought it was a star. And several astronomers observed it between then and Herschel.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:00 PM (w6EFb)

133 How feels the Horde (and Piper, couture-wise) about Ida Lupino? IMHO, she was definitely a 1 in the hubba-hubha department, and wore clothes very well.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:01 PM (77rzZ)

134 Why does the gal with the high couffeur have a covid mask on?!
Hi Piper🧐....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 05, 2026 11:01 PM (uTEOj)

135 This didn’t get any play yesterday – bad dog

Elon Musk Retweeted
Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸@pmarca Jul 4
God bless America

https://tinyurl.com/y7xuehzj

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:03 PM (vC80E)

136 Flamsteed was the first to definitely, no question about observe Uranus in 1690, and six times later. Again, he thought it was a star. And several astronomers observed it between then and Herschel.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:00 PM (w6EFb)

Since Uranus was not really "discovered", and its orbit determined, until the early Modern era, I LOL at its inclusion on astrology charts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:03 PM (1z8ji)

137 Early morning as normal, so I am off t bed. Hopefully an England hangs on to this lead and hopefully they have lots of protection if they do. Both teams have 10 players right now.

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 11:03 PM (OoFl2)

138 I'm guessing the guy in the painting is holding a telescope, but I suppose it could be some sort of Georgian era sex toy.
Posted by: Archimedes


Embraceth thee, the palliative potence of "and."

Posted by: the guy in the painting at July 05, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

139 Using a frozen squirrel as a weapon is genius. Then, after the deed is done you non-chalantly walk down the interstate, when alone just drop it in the middle of one of the vehicle lanes and continue on your way.

It beats driving down to the bridge over the river and tossing it in the water. The cops stake out those known drop sites.

Posted by: Orson at July 05, 2026 11:05 PM (dIske)

140 112

"Congress was disinclined to spend any money"

Under the Articles of Confederation, Congress had NO power to tax, not even to impose a customs
duty on imports.

All Congress could do was to ask the states, very politely, to send them some money. You can imagine how effective THAT was.

So, Congress had no money to spend.

This situation continued after the War, contributing to a major postwar economic depression. Only the ratification of the Constitution in 1789 finally ended this almost fatal flaw in our system of govt.

Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 11:06 PM (RCjYY)

141 I hope the studio is okay, and the floors can be saved!
Posted by: Piper


Alas, doesn't sound like it. She says everything in there is soaked. And with that excellent thoughtfulness and foresight of artistic businesses, they had no renters' insurances.😒

Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, look - leftover potato salad at July 05, 2026 11:06 PM (tQ0hn)

142 Franp - glad to hear the good news!

Years (and pounds) ago, I could fit into my bespoke 18th c. formal outfits. The gorgeous outer coats and waistcoats, yes still, but the breaches? LOL, not a chance. One is dark blue velvet with silver trim, the other dark red taffeta with raised criss-crossing and also silver trim.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 05, 2026 11:06 PM (DZ9Lv)

143 @81-Doof

"Nobody authorized a vacation for you."

Get ready to work some overtime, Doof.

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 11:06 PM (IY9No)

144 My fashion thread would consist only of bikinis. On very well-endowed women.
Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 10:47 PM (77rzZ)

It's still summer, you know.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:06 PM (1Ff7Z)

145 But now, Woodburn is united in happiness- cheering for the Mexican soccer team.

I'm not sure if OPB thought through the message that this sends...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 05, 2026 10:31 PM (aD4fx)
==
Well now they can cry a bit more. England with the crazy win.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 05, 2026 11:07 PM (UQRAm)

146 >> , I LOL at its inclusion on astrology charts.

There was a very funny piece from several years ago, may have been Phil Plait (the "Bad Astronomer") going through the various "rules" of astrology, at least how they imagine the planets influence earthly events.

Distance doesn't matter, and size doesn't matter either, taking them at their word, so he concluded that tiniest dust speck at the edge of the observable universe should have has much influence as Jupiter.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:07 PM (w6EFb)

147 138 I'm guessing the guy in the painting is holding a telescope, but I suppose it could be some sort of Georgian era sex toy.
Posted by: Archimedes

----------

Steam-powered, no doubt.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 11:08 PM (u/oMr)

148 Adios, El Tri!

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 11:08 PM (OoFl2)

149 England beat Mexico. I hope they have enough assets available to get the English players out alive. Mexicans are going to do their level best to get 'revenge'.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 05, 2026 11:08 PM (HXBtj)

150 This situation continued after the War, contributing to a major postwar economic depression. Only the ratification of the Constitution in 1789 finally ended this almost fatal flaw in our system of govt.
Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 11:06 PM (RCjYY)


Not worth a Continental.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 05, 2026 11:09 PM (gqKkr)

151 How feels the Horde (and Piper, couture-wise) about Ida Lupino? IMHO, she was definitely a 1 in the hubba-hubha department, and wore clothes very well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:01 PM (77rzZ)

I had to look her up. I remembered her from a Twilight Zone episode, but didn't realize she directed one of the episodes I find very satisfying - "The Masks".

Good looking, and could pull off fashion and simpler attire.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:09 PM (qx7Zg)

152 The problem with giving congress the power to tax is eventually they are going to use it to give billions to Somali Learing centers.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 11:10 PM (sKqQm)

153 141 I hope the studio is okay, and the floors can be saved!
Posted by: Piper

Alas, doesn't sound like it. She says everything in there is soaked. And with that excellent thoughtfulness and foresight of artistic businesses, they had no renters' insurances.😒
Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, look - leftover potato salad at July 05, 2026 11:06 PM (tQ0hn

Is this hers? She didn’t have a business owner’s policy with property insurance? I am surprised the landlord allowed that! Not to mention liability. It’s not cheap, I know first hand, but a necessity. It’s too late now, but I have a great agent who specializes in this, I can share.

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 11:11 PM (OoFl2)

154 Annoying presenter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:54 PM (1z8ji)

Really? I like him. Well, try this guy instead:

https://tinyurl.com/49s2p793

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

155
There is a propose mission to Uranus on the table that will launch in the mid-2030s if all goes well. It will be an orbiter and probe. NASA and the rest have decided it's high time we get back to Uranus again.

The orbiter will, of course, insert itself into orbit, circling around, and then deploy a probe which will plunge itself deep into Uranus.

They're even thinking about two probes, a big one and small one. A small probe before the big probe.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:14 PM (w6EFb)

156 147 138 I'm guessing the guy in the painting is holding a telescope, but I suppose it could be some sort of Georgian era sex toy.
Posted by: Archimedes

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Steam-powered, no doubt.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 11:08 PM (u/oMr)


James Watts’s improvements to Newcomen’s steam engine occurred in 1776, just in time for the era, but a little early for the true age of steam.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 05, 2026 11:14 PM (gqKkr)

157 Oh I started playing a new XCOM game and I had forgotten the cool sort of atmosphere - you lead a secret group trying to stop an alien invasion of the earth where the governments of the earth and various human organizations might be helping the aliens.

And the plot point of distrust of governments reminded me that right now half the country beliefs that the government is led be a Jewish/Russian puppet trying to implement fascism and reduce women to sex slavery and also believes only members of the government should have guns. Maybe they are being controlled by aliens?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 11:14 PM (sKqQm)

158 56 @bennyjohnson

Trump did this right over Mandami’s head
as the dirty little communist was sitting at George Washington’s desk backwards
bitching about not having sharia law in America surrounded by crying women in hijabs

https://tinyurl.com/bd7anvmf

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:22 PM (vC80E)
**********
I still try not to think about NYC now, with Mandingo, post 9/11, and watching the second jet hit the Tower live. My husband's cousin, a NYFD man, died in one of those towers. For 48hrs his family did not know if four first cousins were dead as it was generational in that family to be NYPD or NYFD.

No idea if NYC can ever claim that city back now from the muslime rule. I'm still mad at GWB as well. Thankful I saw NYC in the late '90's and 2000's when it was nice.

I will never, as long as I live, ever, tire of Freebird, anything by Lynyrd Skynyrd, or our fighter jets and flyovers.

Thankful to live in the most powerful nation on earth and in history.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 05, 2026 11:14 PM (hzuYO)

159 Really? I like him. Well, try this guy instead:

https://tinyurl.com/49s2p793
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

Yikes! Makes Pete Bootygag look butch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:14 PM (1z8ji)

160 They're even thinking about two probes, a big one and small one. A small probe before the big probe.

That's a wise choice.

Posted by: Barack Obama walking funny after a night with Michelle Obama at July 05, 2026 11:15 PM (sKqQm)

161 16 So if the Waffle House is in Fla, may we assume the squirrel was artificially frozen? Perhaps, frozen in a premeditated manner? Oh, this was no happenstance frozen squirrel, my friends.
Posted by: Det Cpt Hercule Obvious at July 05, 2026 10:07 PM (w/O5Q)

I don’t know about y’all, but when I am out and about, I never leave home without my frozen squirrel.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:15 PM (4g5V+)

162 I still try not to think about NYC now, with Mandingo, post 9/11,

It only took America 7 years to forget 9/11.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 11:15 PM (sKqQm)

163
Proposed mission to Uranus, lol.

Sounds kinky.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 11:16 PM (/QHx4)

164 I wasn't watching but I'm glad England won. Maybe if Mexico weren't a bunch of raging, bitter, Aztecs, I'd be more sympathetic, but here we are.
Well done, England! Now, good luck leaving Mexico alive.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 05, 2026 11:16 PM (sAmhv)

165 The orbiter will, of course, insert itself into orbit, circling around, and then deploy a probe which will plunge itself deep into Uranus.

They're even thinking about two probes, a big one and small one. A small probe before the big probe.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:14 PM (w6EFb)

I hereby dub the small probe Barky, and the large probe Paolo.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:16 PM (qx7Zg)

166 When Congress didn't have the power to tax, the result was: we almost ended up singing God Save the King instead of The Star Spangled Banner.

Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 11:17 PM (RCjYY)

167 151 And, Ida Lupino directed at least one episode of Gilligan’s Island.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:19 PM (77rzZ)

168 Well that explains why troops were in rags, starving in Pennsylvania, I guess. But it isn’t realistic to field an Army without feeding them, the Redcoats could have crushed Washington’s command. It was only through some skillful counterintelligence that the British overestimated the size of the garrison or somesuch.

Washington was real big on spies and intelligence and subterfuge in warfare, and spent quite a lot of money on that, on a percentage basis of defense in particular.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 11:19 PM (ZgXGm)

169 When Congress didn't have the power to tax, the result was: we almost ended up singing God Save the King instead of The Star Spangled Banner.

Cackles

Is that like when, uh, a bigger country like uh decides to uh like invade a smaller uh country?

Cackles

Posted by: Kamala Harris, almost president in 2024... at July 05, 2026 11:19 PM (sKqQm)

170
The mainstream fashions of those days were so far from nature that we can't criticize the extreme fashions of these days. Wearing a freaking CAGE under your dress and a lampshade on your head, my God.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 11:20 PM (mmrXZ)

171 114 Two different places in US; articles on muslin nurses saying they would not provide and one saying would let the Jew die.
They are currently unemployed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (vC80E)

Not good enough. Dead, or aboard a slow boat to Shitcanistan.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:50 PM (1z8ji)

If I were king for a day, they’d bounce so fast they wouldn’t have time for their heads to spin.

It’s not hard. You come here, especially immigrating here, you play by OUR rules.

Related: DoorDash, everyone you hire can and should be fluent in English. Period.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:21 PM (4g5V+)

172 I'm guessing the guy in the painting is holding a telescope, but I suppose it could be some sort of Georgian era sex toy.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Steam-powered, no doubt.
Posted by: Cicero
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Cue: "Monstrous Wheel".

Posted by: buddhaha at July 05, 2026 11:21 PM (iaABv)

173 Somebody referenced this today, maybe it was in the Food Thread:

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=S9cnYeFFeC4

Posted by: Emmie at July 05, 2026 11:21 PM (lP31d)

174 I am of the opinion that George Washington was a military and political genius.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:22 PM (77rzZ)

175 Gilligan’s Island was pretty goofy. But it was pretty well done, in its own way.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 11:22 PM (ZgXGm)

176 164 I wasn't watching but I'm glad England won. Maybe if Mexico weren't a bunch of raging, bitter, Aztecs, I'd be more sympathetic, but here we are.
Well done, England! Now, good luck leaving Mexico alive.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 05, 2026 11:16 PM (sAmhv)

Has anyone reached the AZ AG for comment?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:22 PM (4g5V+)

177 Two different places in US; articles on muslin nurses saying they would not provide and one saying would let the Jew die.
They are currently unemployed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 10:44 PM (vC80E)

Not good enough. Dead, or aboard a slow boat to Shitcanistan.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 10:50 PM (1z8ji)

They would have 2 choices. Shotgun pinata, or Pinochet skeet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 11:24 PM (S41Gd)

178 168 Well that explains why troops were in rags, starving in Pennsylvania, I guess. But it isn’t realistic to field an Army without feeding them, the Redcoats could have crushed Washington’s command. It was only through some skillful counterintelligence that the British overestimated the size of the garrison or somesuch.

Washington was real big on spies and intelligence and subterfuge in warfare, and spent quite a lot of money on that, on a percentage basis of defense in particular.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 11:19 PM (ZgXGm)

As Valley Forge showed…having a good quartermaster is essential.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:24 PM (4g5V+)

179 159 Really? I like him. Well, try this guy instead:

https://tinyurl.com/49s2p793
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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He doesn't answer the question.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:25 PM (vC80E)

180 I am of the opinion that George Washington was a military and political genius.

I think one of the most absolute important skills he had was knowing his own abilities - and therefore retreating when it was prudent and then waiting until the time was right...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 11:25 PM (sKqQm)

181 Here's a message from 1976 that I think most of us here agree with.

https://youtu.be/Zm4wQJEZlvI

Bulg, one of the ladies in this video might work for a fashion discussion. I think you'll figure out which one I mean .

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:26 PM (qx7Zg)

182 but the breaches? LOL, not a chance.
...
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal
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Button the waistcoat and you can relieve the pants.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:27 PM (vC80E)

183 Britain is a nation with a fascist government

But Mexico is a nation with literal kleptocracy - the criminal gangs control everything

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 11:27 PM (sKqQm)

184 18-1, I have heard it said about Washington, as a military commander, that he never made the same mistake twice. He had missteps, but he learned from them and never repeated them.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:29 PM (77rzZ)

185 sKqQm)

181 Here's a message from 1976 that I think most of us here agree with.

https://youtu.be/Zm4wQJEZlvI

Bulg, one of the ladies in this video might work for a fashion discussion. I think you'll figure out which one I mean .
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:26 PM (qx7Zg)

That was great, I still know most of those people singing there. Seeing Johnny Cash get in gave me a smile.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 11:30 PM (pQsRv)

186 Mexico has tremendous natural resources, timber, gas, oil, mineral wealth. Etc. Intelligent hard working people. But they have had &@$ked up government for a long, long time

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 11:30 PM (ZgXGm)

187
It would be great if we could assign certain jobs to Muslims.

Hey, you clean up dog shit at the dog rescue, you clean bathrooms at the rest areas, etc.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 11:30 PM (/QHx4)

188 Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

Yikes! Makes Pete Bootygag look butch.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:14 PM (1z8ji)

Well, here's Jon Townsend on period hats he sells:

https://tinyurl.com/467pspc2

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

189
There are many mysteries of Uranus, which is why they're so eager to probe it close up and for extended periods.

Uranus almost lies on its side. Using the right-hand rule, it's obliquity (axial tilt) is 98 degrees. That is, it's north pole is slightly upside down. The IAU definition of North pole is that pole that lies on the ecliptic north side, determined by our own "north", the tilt there is 88 degrees, with retrograde rotation.

The magnetic poles are significantly offset from the rotation axis. So as Uranus rotates, imagine a bar magnet pointing offest, rotating around with the planet. Makes for some complex magnetic dynamics.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:31 PM (w6EFb)

190 Dude and dudette with the funny hats? He was scoping out the neighbor's daughters across the meadow with his telescope. She's his wife and caught him. He told her it was "science."

Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 11:31 PM (kU0PQ)

191 Ida Lupino directed at least one episode of Gilligan’s Island.
Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:19 PM (77rzZ)

A Batman villain, too.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:32 PM (1Ff7Z)

192 so what bent over Uranus?

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 11:33 PM (gKWVE)

193 187
It would be great if we could assign certain jobs to Muslims.
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Row,... row, ...row, ...row, Africa's just a shout away,
It's just a shout away, row, ...



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:33 PM (vC80E)

194 It would be great if we could assign certain jobs to Muslims.

Hey, you clean up dog shit at the dog rescue, you clean bathrooms at the rest areas, etc.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 11:30 PM (/QHx4)

Shaking farts out of bed sheets at a Chinese laundry.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 11:34 PM (S41Gd)

195
Lol Braenyard

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 11:34 PM (/QHx4)

196 If interested you can see my Blue Marble painting in my nic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:35 PM (/WQyy)

197 He doesn't answer the question.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:25 PM (vC80E)

Try the first guy:

https://tinyurl.com/yzy27y3d

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:36 PM (1Ff7Z)

198 Well, here's Jon Townsend on period hats he sells:

https://tinyurl.com/467pspc2
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

How about a page of text, with maybe an illustration or two?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:36 PM (1z8ji)

199 133 How feels the Horde (and Piper, couture-wise) about Ida Lupino? IMHO, she was definitely a 1 in the hubba-hubha department, and wore clothes very well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:01 PM (77rzZ)

Ida Lupino is in my top ten classic movie babes. Her husband actor Howard Duff was a lucky man.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 05, 2026 11:37 PM (y171U)

200 It would be great if we could assign certain jobs to Muslims.
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Row,... row, ...row, ...row, Africa's just a shout away,
It's just a shout away, row, ...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:33 PM (vC80E)

On a windy day, they could try using their clothes as a sail. If the sun's out, they could get some interesting sunburns.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:37 PM (qx7Zg)

201 Is this hers? She didn’t have a business owner’s policy with property insurance? I am surprised the landlord allowed that! Not to mention liability. It’s not cheap, I know first hand, but a necessity. It’s too late now, [but I have a great agent who specializes in this, I can share.
Posted by: Piper


Not hers. She's been involved with the civic ballet company for decades, but has no authority over the board of dictators. She's a teacher, great with the young kids. Very involved with each production, nominally rehearsals director but actually much more.

Enjoyed watch her and her husband as the King and Queen in Soile Arvola's Sleeping Beauty this year. They regularly are one of the couples dancing in the first act of the Nutcracker. Arvola was one of the studio's mentors.
Arvola - Paquita, 1984
https://youtu.be/66LsmQp5wsk

Don't know what they're going to do about a place to work now.

Posted by: mindful webworker - beer! at July 05, 2026 11:37 PM (tQ0hn)

202
183 Britain is a nation with a fascist government

But Mexico is a nation with literal kleptocracy - the criminal gangs control everything
Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 11:27 PM (sKqQm)

None of the Latin American governments have ever been able to break free from the sorry legacy of the Spanish colonial system. Spanish Colonial governments were heavily centralized but mindless bureaucracies, shot through with corruption at every level. Still describes just about every Latin American government to this day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 11:37 PM (pQsRv)

203 Mexico has one (1) nuclear power station with two (2) reactors. About 3 per cent of their electrical generating capacity.

France has fifty seven (57)

Germany currently has zero (0), at one time it apparently had dozens.

Spain has five (5)
UK has four (4)
Russia has eleven (11) with about forty (40) reactors
U.S.A. has fifty seven (57) in twenty eight (2 states

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 11:39 PM (ZgXGm)

204 I liked it , even though it has little cartoon figures . Washington as military commander. Prager university video:

https://tinyurl.com/2n3y3456

And thanks for the very interesting fashion segment, Piper, although I think she's gone to bed

Goodnight all!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 11:40 PM (AQXU4)

205 Try the first guy:

https://tinyurl.com/yzy27y3d

Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Ha, blame it on the Spaniards. Why not?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:40 PM (vC80E)

206 I try to ignore the voices in my head most days...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 11:41 PM (l3cgK)

207 How about a page of text, with maybe an illustration or two?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


What a quaint idea.

Posted by: monetized influencers at July 05, 2026 11:42 PM (VHUov)

208 I don’t know about y’all, but when I am out and about, I never leave home without my frozen squirrel.[/'i]

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 11:42 PM (vTZFs)

209 Those Colonialists sure did like the look of wide hips...

Baby Doth have backside!

Posted by: Sir Mixeth Much at July 05, 2026 11:43 PM (l3cgK)

210 208 I don’t know about y’all, but when I am out and about, I never leave home without my frozen squirrel.[/'i]

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 11:42 PM (vTZFs)

Ooh, brackets fail...

Posted by: Sir Mixeth Much at July 05, 2026 11:43 PM (l3cgK)

211 Ida Lupino was also highly intelligent; as she aged out of the femme fatale rolls, she began writing, producing, and directing films. And she was good at it!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 11:44 PM (pQsRv)

212 Brave AI for the answer:

"The tricorne hat (or tricorn) is a three-cornered headwear style that dominated 18th-century fashion, evolving from earlier broad-brimmed hats used by Spanish soldiers in Flanders during the 17th century. The triangular shape was originally practical, allowing soldiers to hold muskets on their shoulders without hitting the brim and directing rain away from the face. "

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:44 PM (1z8ji)

213 How about a page of text, with maybe an illustration or two?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:36 PM (1z8ji)

If I'm going to be your unpaid research intern, I demand $32 per hour!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:44 PM (1Ff7Z)

214 Italy had four nuclear power plants - shut them down in 1990

Japan has thirty three (33)

Ukraine has four (4) nuclear sites, with fifteen (15) reactors. Generates about 50% of their electricity

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 11:45 PM (ZgXGm)

215 It just crossed my mind that the women's colonial fashions would be horrible going to the stars. Imagine trying to put all that on in zero gravity!

The men's clothes wouldn't be as bad.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:45 PM (qx7Zg)

216 >> so what bent over Uranus?

The leading educated guess/hypothesis is a collision with a smaller, earth sized protoplanet billions of years ago.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:46 PM (w6EFb)

217 Most people can speak faster than they can write.

Most people can read faster than they can listen.

So text shows respect for the audience; the audience's time is being considered more valuable than the author's, by the author.

And speech shows the opposite. Podcasting is narcissism.

Posted by: mikeski, curmudgeon at July 05, 2026 11:46 PM (VHUov)

218 >>>Ukraine has four (4) nuclear sites, with fifteen (15) reactors. Generates about 50% of their electricity
-

Maybe not for long.
_Vlad, just Vlad

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:47 PM (vC80E)

219 Ooh, brackets fail...

Saved by nic close tags.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 11:47 PM (vTZFs)

220 If I'm going to be your unpaid research intern, I demand $32 per hour!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:44 PM (1Ff7Z)

There is much wisdom in the Horde. I figured somebody here would know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:48 PM (1z8ji)

221 217 Most people can speak faster than they can write.

Most people can read faster than they can listen.

So text shows respect for the audience; the audience's time is being considered more valuable than the author's, by the author.

And speech shows the opposite. Podcasting is narcissism.

Posted by: mikeski, curmudgeon at July 05, 2026 11:46 PM (VHUov)

Hmmm...
Well you shouldn't be reading books and online articles while driving, so there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 11:48 PM (l3cgK)

222 221 217 Most people can speak faster than they can write.

Most people can read faster than they can listen.

So text shows respect for the audience; the audience's time is being considered more valuable than the author's, by the author.

And speech shows the opposite. Podcasting is narcissism.

Posted by: mikeski, curmudgeon at July 05, 2026 11:46 PM (VHUov)

Hmmm...
Well you shouldn't be reading books and online articles while driving, so there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 11:48 PM (l3cgK)

And books in the shower are...messy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 11:48 PM (l3cgK)

223
217 Most people can speak faster than they can write.”

I’ve met quite a few people who can speak faster than they can think.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 11:49 PM (pQsRv)

224 199 Joemarine, agreed. She was a beauty. And a very talented actress/producer/director.

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 11:50 PM (77rzZ)

225 Most people can speak faster than they can write.

Most people can read faster than they can listen.

So text shows respect for the audience; the audience's time is being considered more valuable than the author's, by the author.

And speech shows the opposite. Podcasting is narcissism.
Posted by: mikeski, curmudgeon at July 05, 2026 11:46 PM (VHUov)

True. I can read War and Peace in 12-14 hours, but the complete audiobooks take 55 to 65 hours.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:51 PM (qx7Zg)

226 We had a Hudson radio in the old truck. It had a floor switch similar to the old floor mounted dimmer switch. When you tapped the switch it would roll to the next station.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:51 PM (vC80E)

227 One of the many things that would have surprised people from 60 years ago is that nuke power is still relatively rare...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 11:53 PM (sKqQm)

228 Bulg, this one was for you.

https://tinyurl.com/y7xuehzj

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:53 PM (vC80E)

229 Another here nor there...

We are now 250+1 years old. Oh my! Us youngsters!
Thank God He blessed us with this lovely land.
We are so very proud and, oh yeah! Proud!
Screw 'em.
*Spit*.
I think we've got it all over those little pussies.
Bring it commies. We proud AMERICANS will kick your ass everytime.


Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 05, 2026 11:53 PM (uTEOj)

230 We had a Hudson radio in the old truck. It had a floor switch similar to the old floor mounted dimmer switch. When you tapped the switch it would roll to the next station.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:51 PM (vC80E)

Had a '56 Cadillac with the Wonderbar radio that had that feature.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 11:54 PM (1z8ji)

231 @Piper, about a dozen years ago my young niece was doing a school project on Marie Antoinette. A similar time frame, but slightly different silhouette. I made her a Polonaise like gown (in two pieces) with a giant pannier (not as hard to make as you might think) and the bodice was boned which required her to be laced into it. The underskirt was sky blue and i found a buttercream creped-backed satin for the overskirt and bodice. I found drapery lace remnants for the sleeve cuffs that were perfect. Her mom was a pro with the powdered wig.

Posted by: Effie Perrine at July 05, 2026 11:54 PM (p1D+n)

232
JWST near-infrared time lapse of the rotation of Uranus:

https://t.ly/b0CKn

That's been notoriously tricky to pin down. Some optical observations got in the ballpark, but Voyager 2 seemed to pin it down, but years later, turned out that was about 28 seconds off.

An orbiter would determine this well, including all the complex differential rotations.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 05, 2026 11:55 PM (w6EFb)

233 227 One of the many things that would have surprised people from 60 years ago is that nuke power is still relatively rare...

Posted by: 18-1
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One of the major tenets of Carter's platform was,
'I will make nuclear energy safe for America', lying bastard.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:56 PM (vC80E)

234 interested you can see my Blue Marble painting in my nic.
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:35 PM (/WQy

Really great! I especially like how you show light and reflection. Im partial to the Cape Disappointment oil, but they are all so good!!

Posted by: LASue at July 05, 2026 11:57 PM (lCppi)

235
I might need bail moneys

Darleen and that damn squirrel are fine

Got theyselves the hash brown freezer all by themselves

Posted by: Miklos using his one call at July 05, 2026 11:57 PM (6VErX)

236 Prior to the 1940s, car radios were physically large, outboard, cumbersome devices.

When in dash factory radios became available, the period advertisements stressed the necessity to be able to change stations without ever taking eyes off the road. They really thought that was a big deal.

Modern Touchscreens and portable devices are horrible in that regard. Probably good for a class action lawsuit or two? Bottom feeders

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 11:58 PM (ZgXGm)

237
Wearing a freaking CAGE under your dress and a lampshade on your head, my God.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

============

And that's just the men.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 06, 2026 12:00 AM (mmrXZ)

238 Had a '56 Cadillac with the Wonderbar radio that had that feature.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Saw a '49 Cadillac with a fold-out record player

For the Submarine Races I reckon

Posted by: Miklos on his lawyer's VPN at July 06, 2026 12:00 AM (6VErX)

239 And that's just the men.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone

When I say it's a party, it's a PARTY

Posted by: Miklos on his lawyer's other VPN at July 06, 2026 12:01 AM (6VErX)

240 Explosion exhibited: An ammonium nitrate truck explosion in Muqi Banner, Inner Mongolia, left two dead and four injured.
--- only the explosion, not the bodies

https://tinyurl.com/3m9a7yv2

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 12:02 AM (vC80E)

241 228 Thanks! Much appreciated!

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:03 AM (77rzZ)

242 Well. According the The History Source, it was on this date in 1947 that the modern bikini was created.
So I'm thinking maybe next week, Piper could, well, you know, provide some examples. The Paige Spiranic 4th of July picture would be a good start.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2026 12:04 AM (2WIwB)

243
Well, it's past midnight. Aphelion will be at 1:30PM EDT (17:30Z). And that's almost dead on high noon here. The Sun will be 94,502,962 miles away at that point.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 06, 2026 12:04 AM (w6EFb)

244 Those Colonialists sure did like the look of wide hips...

Baby Doth have backside!
Posted by: Sir Mixeth Much

Dooood......

Posted by: Ben Franklin at July 06, 2026 12:04 AM (6VErX)

245 242 Yeah, I agree that bikini pics would be welcome.

Tara Yazdi, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:07 AM (77rzZ)

246 225 Most people can speak faster than they can write.

Most people can read faster than they can listen.

So text shows respect for the audience; the audience's time is being considered more valuable than the author's, by the author.

And speech shows the opposite. Podcasting is narcissism.
Posted by: mikeski, curmudgeon at July 05, 2026 11:46 PM (VHUov)

True. I can read War and Peace in 12-14 hours, but the complete audiobooks take 55 to 65 hours.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 11:51 PM (qx7Zg)

I run some EweToob videos at 2x or 3x speed...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 06, 2026 12:07 AM (l3cgK)

247 Now you know why I invented bifocals

Posted by: Ben Franklin at July 06, 2026 12:07 AM (6VErX)

248 235 Miklos.
You might try a hamster. They're fatter, and last longer in the freezer. 'Eenze might dig it🫪....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:08 AM (uTEOj)

249 246 Po-langliski ili po-russki?

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:09 AM (77rzZ)

250 Carter never graduated from Nuke school or anything like that. He did work for Rickover cleaning up a contaminated reactor. His nukular knollege was a bit overstated.

He was a weird dude. He was known to go through the White House checking that each window shade was drawn down precisely halfway, or whatever. Uniformity.

In a cost cutting measure, he cutoff the top shelf booze and high dollar snacks for the press corps. He put out hot dogs and kool aid, something like that, instead. They thought he was kidding. He wasn’t.

They exposed his famous briefcase he was seen carrying to the White House every day, was in fact a prop. It was empty.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 12:09 AM (ZgXGm)

251 They exposed his famous briefcase he was seen carrying to the White House every day, was in fact a prop. It was empty.

Posted by: Common Tater
---

As the suit bag he carried over his shoulder while debarking AF-1.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 12:11 AM (vC80E)

252 How is it that the dictator of New Yawk City isn't always referred to as Madmanny?

Posted by: mindful webworker - curious at July 06, 2026 12:11 AM (tQ0hn)

253 Using a frozen squirrel as a weapon is genius. Then, after the deed is done you non-chalantly walk down the interstate, when alone just drop it in the middle of one of the vehicle lanes and continue on your way.
Posted by: Orson


My plan is the frozen moose.

You're saying that's ridiculous, but is it?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 06, 2026 12:12 AM (diia5)

254
Al Sharpton pronunces it "Ma'am Damn Nanny".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 06, 2026 12:12 AM (w6EFb)

255 249 po-angliski, dammit.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:13 AM (77rzZ)

256 Yeah. I probably don't belong here tonight. Sorry.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:15 AM (uTEOj)

257 “The DNI has access to everything, everything that they want to see,” said Hillary. “I mean, I hope there are career and even political appointees in various of the agencies that are slow-walking or refusing to share information with Pulte.”
_Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 12:16 AM (vC80E)

258 Today I canned cherries. I broke two jars so I got 14 pints. I still have some cherries left so I will either can more tomorrow or make cherry vanilla jam.

Which is heavenly.

It looks like this year I may wind up either running out of jars or shelf space. I may even run out of space under the bed.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:17 AM (rbvCR)

259 Depends if they have a brain at all:

https://clip.cafe/the-wizard-of-oz-1939/
but-some-people-without-brains-do-an-
awful-lot-of-talking/

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 12:17 AM (gqKkr)

260 256 Yeah. I probably don't belong here tonight. Sorry.

Posted by: COMountainMarie
---

What's up?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 12:17 AM (vC80E)

261 Howdy, horde! Nice ONT, HotW!

Wassup, COMM? You ok?

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 12:19 AM (rdVOm)

262 COMM, I hope that it’s nothing I’ve said.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:19 AM (77rzZ)

263 Mrs Clinton really is an insufferable wench.

She sounds … concerned. That’s always a good sign.

She should have been vetted before being allowed to run for any public office. Bill would never have passed any cursory background or loyalty check either.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 12:20 AM (ZgXGm)

264 260 What's up?

I just can't keep up. Hordsters are way ahead of me...
I love this crowd 🫪 !!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:22 AM (uTEOj)

265 If I’m pissing people off, I’ll be happy to leave.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:22 AM (77rzZ)

266 Some states are still fighting concealed frozen squirrel carry. We need national reciprocity.

Posted by: mindful webworker - chipmonk holsters at July 06, 2026 12:22 AM (tQ0hn)

267 266 LOL

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:24 AM (77rzZ)

268 I was able to get a 5" tire for the mower deck cum engine stand toter. Smells like real rubber, too, not that waxy Chinesium crap. After much grunting and bellowing, got it mounted on the rim, and it holds air. Those little bastards are way harder to mount by hand than a full sized car tire.

Weather was too iffy to work on the car outside, so I contented myself by scrapping out two more old car generators. Both were in tough shape, and not worth trying to save them. If I come across any that are in decent shape, and worthy of a freshen-up, I will do it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 12:24 AM (1z8ji)

269 {{{COMM}}}

No need to "keep up"-- just jump in wherever! LOL

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 12:25 AM (rdVOm)

270 Yeah. I probably don't belong here tonight. Sorry.
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:15 AM (uTEOj)

Why, you belong here as much as us losers and miscreants do!







Wait. I didn't mean it to come out like that. It's not that you... uh, well.................... hey look! Squirrel!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2026 12:25 AM (1Ff7Z)

271 262 Bulg

I soooo love you darlin' !
It's just me😂!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:26 AM (uTEOj)

272 COMM, just start up an exchange of fish puns, and you’re good. Just trout ‘em out!

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:26 AM (77rzZ)

273 Some states are still fighting concealed frozen squirrel carry. We need national reciprocity.
Posted by: mindful webworker - chipmonk holsters at July 06, 2026 12:22 AM (tQ0hn)

Frozen boa constrictors would be handy. You could wield them like a baseball bat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 12:26 AM (1z8ji)

274 When any of the usual suspects start screeching like that …. you can be sure Pulte is good shit. You could put a gun to my head and I couldn’t pick him out of a lineup, but if Felonia Von Pantsuit is freaked out, he’s a great choice.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 12:27 AM (xHdZY)

275 So that dude *just happened* to have a frozen squirrel with him, and *then* ended up using it as a weapon.

Riiiiight.

"iT wAs PreMeDiTatEd, your honor."

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 12:27 AM (rdVOm)

276 271 Same here, COMM!

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ)

277 Yeah. I probably don't belong here tonight. Sorry.
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:15 AM (uTEOj)

What's wrong? Are tonight's topics too far out?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 12:30 AM (qx7Zg)

278 COMM, just start up an exchange of fish puns, and you’re good. Just trout ‘em out!
Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:26 AM (77rzZ)

Perhaps she's pining for pike to use on a troublemaker.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 12:32 AM (qx7Zg)

279 Hey, Hour of the Wolf. Sorry I didn’t greet you earlier. Hope you are well.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:33 AM (77rzZ)

280 I don't belong here either, but I walked in anyway LOL.

Moose didn't even 'card' me.

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 12:34 AM (rdVOm)

281 So, see.
The fantastical Horde!
Here's me being all sorry for myself.
My pals come through.
Jeez. I love youz 💋💕!

And. Then I almost caught a trout. Damn fish anyway🐠...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:36 AM (uTEOj)

282 Yes, COMM-- we were born ~250 years too late for those *hawt* fashions! Sad.

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 12:36 AM (rdVOm)

283 Hey, Hour of the Wolf. Sorry I didn’t greet you earlier. Hope you are well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:33 AM (77rzZ)

I'm doing well. Still laughing at the silliness of this world.

How about you? Tutoring taking off, planting acorns of knowledge in the young?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 12:36 AM (qx7Zg)

284
A woman was pissed at her so she took a frozen leg of lamb and beat him about the head and killed him.

She cooked the lamb and then called the police and while they were investigating served them the lamb.

Lack of evidence, lol.

It was a fiction story, i don't remember the author.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 12:37 AM (/QHx4)

285
Ida Lupino is in my top ten classic movie babes.

I like her in They Drive By Night

https://t.ly/AIa5W

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2026 12:37 AM (Cqx++)

286 A Florida hobo named Earl
Committed assault with a squirrel
When asked why he'd chosen
To use one that was frozen,
He said, "they're more easy to hurl.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 12:37 AM (1z8ji)

287 At her husband

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 12:38 AM (/QHx4)

288 "Are tonight's topics too far out?"

That's OK, we still have AOP. He's easier to understand.

Posted by: Case at July 06, 2026 12:39 AM (IY9No)

289 Kiev is planning to use fish-shaped drones on rivers around the Russian capital. Shaped like pikes, they are designed to dive into the local rivers. They are known as “Moscow-lungers ”

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:39 AM (77rzZ)

290 Excellent ONT from start to finish. 👍

The Met Ball and others of its ilk have seen a resurrection of those wild dress shapes & hair styles.

While whale boning became a no-no long ago, corsetry still features some of the damnedest metal and plastic boning imaginable. (For the youthful and couture inclined.)

Life was good way back when I had piles of French curls and whatever in the hair for prom, other people's weddings, and NYs Eve celebrations. (They could stay in a week, even at the beach, with the right hairspray!)

In the British legal system, barristers and judges in higher courts continue to wear traditional, distinctive white, curled horsehair wigs, known as perukes.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 12:40 AM (NFX2v)

291 We had a Hudson radio in the old truck. It had a floor switch similar to the old floor mounted dimmer switch. When you tapped the switch it would roll to the next station.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 11:51 PM (vC80E)


George O Smith, who later wrote the Venus Equilateral stories, said that on Dec 7 1941 he and his crew were trying to build a car radio for Philco that would do just that, and they had just got to the point of it going all the way to the top of the dial and stalling instead of stopping at stations on the way. They found out about the bombing at about 10 pm when they went home for the day.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:40 AM (rbvCR)

292 They are known as “Moscow-lungers ”
****

Ok, that was baaaaddd.

Posted by: clarence at July 06, 2026 12:40 AM (xyH2B)

293

Lamb to the Slaughter

https://t.ly/AHy0a

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2026 12:41 AM (Cqx++)

294 She should have been vetted before being allowed to run for any public office. Bill would never have passed any cursory background or loyalty check either.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 12:20 AM (ZgXGm)


She was vetted. She was found to have serious personality problems and was on several serious meds to combat them. She also paid of the DNC debts so they owed her bigly.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:41 AM (rbvCR)

295 266 Some states are still fighting concealed frozen squirrel carry. We need national reciprocity.
Posted by: mindful webworker - chipmonk holsters at July 06, 2026 12:22 AM (tQ0hn)

Secret Squirrel approves of this message.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 06, 2026 12:41 AM (mP0Kj)

296
In a cost cutting measure, he cutoff the top shelf booze and high dollar snacks for the press corps. He put out hot dogs and kool aid, something like that, instead. They thought he was kidding. He wasn’t.

Posted by: Common Tater

==============

A glimmer of redemption?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at July 06, 2026 12:41 AM (mmrXZ)

297 Lack of evidence, lol.

It was a fiction story, i don't remember the author.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 12:37 AM (/QHx4)

Sounds like one of the Alfred Hitchcock mystery stories.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 12:43 AM (pQsRv)

298 292 🙂

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:43 AM (77rzZ)

299 Kiev is planning to use fish-shaped drones on rivers around the Russian capital. Shaped like pikes, they are designed to dive into the local rivers. They are known as “Moscow-lungers ”
Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:39 AM (77rzZ)

Moscow's working on countermeasures. Theirs are nasty looking wooden drones that lull the Moscow-lungers into a passive state with strange transmissions. The tentative name is the Barcalounger.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 12:43 AM (qx7Zg)

300 In a cost cutting measure, he cutoff the top shelf booze and high dollar snacks for the press corps. He put out hot dogs and kool aid, something like that, instead. They thought he was kidding. He wasn’t.
****

Even back then, the press was going to print what they wanted rather than the facts or truth. Why continue to coddle the riffraff? Even today, much of the press are unserious hacks.

Posted by: clarence at July 06, 2026 12:46 AM (xyH2B)

301
Tom,

Probably.

I love puzzles and read lots of detective stories.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 12:46 AM (/QHx4)

302 And. Then I almost caught a trout. Damn fish anyway🐠...
----
So, you read my books?

Posted by: Kilgore Trout at July 06, 2026 12:47 AM (XeU6L)

303 Hi CT Stacey here with McGuire Research. Your opinion matters and McGuire Research would like to hear your thoughts on important healthcare issues

All responses are confidential and for research purposes only. Here's the link to share your views:
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Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 12:47 AM (Mr2jk)

304
“I’m not clumsy. It’s just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies, and the walls get in my way.” –

JQ...Over here at the wobbly table....a round for the house...
Oh yeah....put it on my tab🤓...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 12:48 AM (uTEOj)

305
A glimmer of redemption?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone
------

He likely lusted after them in his heart.

Posted by: Kilgore Trout at July 06, 2026 12:48 AM (XeU6L)

306 canning cherries makes my fingers blue. Canning apples and juicing grapes makes them go dark.
I used to go back to school in the fall with blackened hands from picking up walnuts.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:49 AM (rbvCR)

307 Even back then, the press was going to print what they wanted rather than the facts or truth
——-

But they would have kept his empty briefcase a super secret I betcha

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 12:50 AM (Mr2jk)

308 Sure, COMM! Wanna split a pitcher of Margaritas?

*round for the house*

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 12:51 AM (rdVOm)

309 >>>“I’m not clumsy. It’s just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies, and the walls get in my way.” –


Is the lamp stealing your best material, too?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:51 AM (rbvCR)

310 Broken Treats would be a good nic.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 06, 2026 12:52 AM (tM5h4)

311 The long-time host of Let’s Make a Deal was known to relax in a Barker Lounger.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:52 AM (77rzZ)

312 Frozen squirrel? Hold my beer.

Here in SW Idaho, we have plenty of roadkill badgers and I despise drivers who tailgate me.

What's the connection, you ask?

I'm going to collect badger carcasses and freeze each one in a water filled five gallon bucket. I'll remove the blocks of badger-filled ice from the buckets. Hidden in the back of each of my vehicles, I will install a frozen badger dispenser.

When I get tailgated, I will release a block of badger, timing it so it will roll beneath the offending vehicle and cause massive disruption to its undercarriage.

When the authorities arrive to investigate, all the ice will have melted, leaving only a mangled ball of badger to be blamed for the damage.

(Begins to cackle madly)

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 06, 2026 12:52 AM (W5PEE)

313 Airline pilot, open, hot mic:

https://tinyurl.com/4tf6h25m

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 12:52 AM (vC80E)

314 George O Smith, who later wrote the Venus Equilateral stories, said that on Dec 7 1941 he and his crew were trying to build a car radio for Philco that would do just that, and they had just got to the point of it going all the way to the top of the dial and stalling instead of stopping at stations on the way. They found out about the bombing at about 10 pm when they went home for the day.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:40 AM (rbvCR)

That feature makes use of AVC voltage developed at the detector diode. AVC means "automatic volume control" and it is now a basic feature of any decent radio. Usually the detector tube had two diode plates and a small triode within it. One diode plate detected the AM signal, and applied it to the grid of the triode, which was the first audio amplifier. The other diode plate provided AVC voltage, which was used to control gain on the RF and IF stages of the receiver. No signal, no AVC voltage. Strong signal, high AVC voltage. So AVC voltage becomes a useful indicator of the presence of a signal. The trick with the motor-driven tuner like the Wonderbar is getting the motor to stop at just the right time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 12:52 AM (1z8ji)

315 It was a fiction story, i don't remember the author.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 12:37 AM

Roald Dahl.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 06, 2026 12:54 AM (tM5h4)

316 284. A woman was pissed at her so she took a frozen leg of lamb and beat him about the head and killed him.
She cooked the lamb and then called the police and while they were investigating served them the lamb.
Lack of evidence, lol.
It was a fiction story, i don't remember the author.

Posted by: four seasons

👍 Excellent memory! The original is "Lamb to the Slaughter," a 1953 short story by Roald Dahl. A few adaptions over the years followed.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 06, 2026 12:56 AM (NFX2v)

317 Big power outage in my area, about 10 - 12 blocks have been out for about 12 hours now. I feel kinda guilty because I’m the last house that still has power on the edge of the sea of darkness.

And a bit more guilty because a big limb came down in my from yard (fills up a lot of the yard, that’ll be some work cleaning it up) and I think the damage was caused when it hit the trunk power line and caused a lot of stuff to blow. But thanks to a quirk in how my lines are hooked up, I’m unaffected. The utility trucks have been parked in front of my house for about 6 hours now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2026 12:57 AM (pQsRv)

318 AOP, I suspect the George O Smith was developing that tube. He later, during the war, worked on the radar proximity fuze for AA shells and mentioned as an aside that Arthur C Clark was working on the Chain Home radars, which were hand built and rather delicate, he was mass producing a similar system that was designed to survive being fired out of a cannon.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:57 AM (rbvCR)

319 316 Alfred Hitchcock Presents, with Barbara Bel Geddes as the muderess.

Posted by: Bulg at July 06, 2026 12:58 AM (77rzZ)

320

Ya'll have great minds.

Hubby and i are old and we joke that every morning we have to look at our drivers license to remember our names, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 12:59 AM (/QHx4)

321 308
Yeah baby!

You first😜!!!


Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 01:00 AM (uTEOj)

322 LOL, COMM!

We each have our own glass, hon....

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 01:02 AM (rdVOm)

323 You know,
We need a T-Rex. Where is a Dino when you need one🦖 anyway?!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 01:05 AM (uTEOj)

324 >>>only a mangled ball of badger to be blamed for the damage.

(Begins to cackle madly)

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
---

He has plans

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:06 AM (vC80E)

325 AOP, I suspect the George O Smith was developing that tube. He later, during the war, worked on the radar proximity fuze for AA shells and mentioned as an aside that Arthur C Clark was working on the Chain Home radars, which were hand built and rather delicate, he was mass producing a similar system that was designed to survive being fired out of a cannon.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 06, 2026 12:57 AM (rbvCR)

I don't believe that the Wonderbar concept required a special tube. AVC circuits had been commonplace since the early 1930's, and detector tubes with the additional two diode units for nearly that long. The trick for the motor-driven tuner was the circuitry needed to stop the motor as the AVC voltage stopped rising rapidly and began to peak. If you wait for the peak, it's too late, the motor will coast for tiny fraction of a second after its power is cut, leaving you on the downslope of the AVC curve, and not dead-nuts center-tuned on the station. Sound quality suffers a little.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 01:12 AM (1z8ji)

326 You know,
We need a T-Rex. Where is a Dino when you need one🦖 anyway?!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 01:05 AM (uTEOj)

I think he's taken a shine to Idaho Spudboy's idea, and is out looking for badgers.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 01:13 AM (qx7Zg)

327 Tap the switch with your foot and inch up to the station.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:14 AM (vC80E)

328 When it gets hot in the land of Cheese...

https://youtu.be/hSFBddQJZzc

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 01:15 AM (qx7Zg)

329 I think he's taken a shine to Idaho Spudboy's idea, and is out looking for badgers.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 01:13 AM (qx7Zg)

I think the badger-deployment idea has merit, but maybe only in the heat of Summer. The ice might persist for hours or days in sub-freezing weather.

What about using skunks, frozen in liquid nitrogen?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 01:16 AM (1z8ji)

330 So pals...

"Time to sleep. Because staying awake just increases the awkward thoughts.”

I love youz!!!

Till 250+2!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 01:17 AM (uTEOj)

331 Hey look! Frozen Squirrel!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 01:20 AM (gqKkr)

332 Former Sen. Warren Staffer Attends Ayatollah's Funeral, Calls Him "Greatest Leader Of Our Lifetime"

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:21 AM (vC80E)

333 Former Sen. Warren Staffer Attends Ayatollah's Funeral, Calls Him "Greatest Leader Of Our Lifetime"
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:21 AM (vC80E)

That's got to hurt Chief Liawatha.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 01:23 AM (qx7Zg)

334 Tap the switch with your foot and inch up to the station.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:14 AM (vC80E)

It doesn't work that way. Tap the switch, a relay closes and latches, sending power to the tuning motor, which continues to run until the relay is unlatched by AVC voltage (amplified by a tube) gets high enough to trigger another relay to interrupt coil current to the latching relay. And when the dial got all the way to 1640 kHz, a stop switch triggered reversal of the motor, and drive the dial all the way back to 540 to start another sweep.

They were very clever engineers, doing logic problems with vacuum tubes, relays, and motors.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 01:23 AM (1z8ji)

335
He should not be allowed back in our country.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 01:24 AM (/QHx4)

336 'Night, COMM!

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 01:24 AM (rdVOm)

337 Just meant 250 years plus 2 days...whacking myself in the big, dumb head....
Being so 3 stooges....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 06, 2026 01:24 AM (uTEOj)

338 Y'know, when I was, say, sixteen years old, I didn't think about it so much, but now, umpittyump years older, I find it rather bizarre how many pop songs involved age-inappropriate relationships. It's a long list.

https://youtu.be/5lP8BZcyoEQ

G'nite, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - ''nice'' they say at July 06, 2026 01:24 AM (tQ0hn)

339 They were very clever engineers, doing logic problems with vacuum tubes, relays, and motors.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Trying to build a mnemonic memory circuit out of stone knives and bearskins?

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 01:26 AM (rdVOm)

340 284 four seasons -

Sounds like an Agatha Christie.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 01:27 AM (gqKkr)

341 It's been a blast, but my body is saying "Sleep, and recover for a new day, new challenges, and new laughs."

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 06, 2026 01:27 AM (qx7Zg)

342
Hour, thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 01:29 AM (/QHx4)

343 'Night, HotW. Well done tonight!

Posted by: JQ at July 06, 2026 01:30 AM (rdVOm)

344 youtu.be/9D-uBr4Y9T0

Yep. Still pushing the Ella Langley drum. I apologize for nothing. She's just a country pop gal I just found out was really good a couple of months ago. I'm not really good at keeping up with trends.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2026 01:30 AM (sAmhv)

345 Somebody already identified it: Roald Dahl, not Agatha Christie.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 01:30 AM (gqKkr)

346 Liawatha's nut job:

Calla Walsh began organizing for Democratic Senator Ed Markey while she was still a teenager. She had the perfect profile: earnest, idealistic, and a model Gen Z Democrat.
---

Whole page of death to America - some just elected into our govt.
Where's votermom?

https://tinyurl.com/5t3s8e47

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:32 AM (vC80E)

347 Long ago people married right out of high school. The fact that we put off marriage until so much later nowadays doesn’t help with the birth rate.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 06, 2026 01:33 AM (gqKkr)

348 333 Former Sen. Warren Staffer Attends Ayatollah's Funeral, Calls Him "Greatest Leader Of Our Lifetime"
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:21 AM (vC80E)

That's got to hurt Chief Liawatha.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf



You'd have to have a moral compass for that. She's undead.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2026 01:34 AM (sAmhv)

349 Well, past 2330 here, and I am getting sleepy. Time to wander off to bed. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2026 01:35 AM (1z8ji)

350 @zerohedge
3h
The Bank of Korea warned that single-stock leveraged ETFs tied to Samsung Electronics and SK Hynix could deepen market concentration, amplify volatility and intensify one-way trading flows, according to a local report.

"With Samsung and SK Hynix accounting for more than half of stock market capitalization and trading volume, expanding investment in single-stock leveraged ETFs could further intensify this concentration," the BOK said in a written response submitted to People Power Party lawmaker Park Sung-hoon: Yonhap
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Hey, assholes, you can't buy either one at the NYSE.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:38 AM (vC80E)

351 Colonial clothes was neet to see

Raining here, T-storm rolled through some time ago

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 01:42 AM (Ia/+0)

352

Johnson said they will pass the voter ID bill.

Sure

Posted by: four seasons at July 06, 2026 01:43 AM (/QHx4)

353 Don't think Johnson's got any sway over the senate.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 01:55 AM (vC80E)

354 Fishing becomes a little more difficult when the heat rolls in. You have to locate the schools and troll them at the right depth and speed and then they tend to bite. Crack open another beer.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 06, 2026 01:57 AM (fkjGs)

355 Tony Seruga@TonySeruga

Every week, these strange white crates leave a high-security Tesla compound in Lathrop, California.

They’re showing up near the Hoover Dam. At an Air Force base in Georgia. In the heart of New York City…

An estimated 4,000 of them are now spread across 48 locations in 14 states. And more roll out every week.

But you won’t see this on CNBC, and you won’t read about it in the Wall Street Journal.

Because these mystery Elon crates have nothing to do with electric vehicles, space, social media, crypto, biotech, robots, or AI…

The “mystery Elon crates” are Tesla Megapacks — grid-scale battery storage units being deployed across the country for utility, military, and commercial energy projects. Tesla is quietly building the backbone of America’s grid-storage infrastructure while everyone’s distracted by culture-war bullshit — but it is the actual story worth paying attention to.

No secret technology. No hidden invention. Just the most boring, most profitable, and arguably most important thing Tesla does — hidden in plain sight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 02:15 AM (vC80E)

356 If you can get lithium-ion to work properly, what you'll end up with is cold fusion. Or not. Maybe just a fire you can't put out.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 06, 2026 02:22 AM (fkjGs)

357 There is strong interest in small and simpler units for generating electricity from nuclear power, and for process heat.

Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) represent a broad suite of smaller-scale designs that seek to apply the principles of modularity, factory fabrication, and serial production to nuclear energy.

SMRs offer additional flexibility in operation and wider deployment opportunities, allowing for nuclear to be used in more locations and for a greater range of applications.
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https://tinyurl.com/39sa6urh

tiny goes to spaced up address

https://world-nuclear.org/ information-library/ nuclear-power-reactors/ small-modular-reactors /small-modular -reactors

Small modular reactors (SMRs) are nuclear fission reactors with a power output of less than 300 megawatts.
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Search Assist says 20 megawatts will power 13,400 homes.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 06, 2026 02:32 AM (vC80E)

358 I just need a coffee cup that stays permanently hot. Thus saving arduous treks to the microwave. A small piece of spent control rod embedded in the ceramic, strontium 90, whatever, I’m not picky.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2026 02:39 AM (55dRY)

359 Dzien dobry!

Posted by: Coach Mike"Miklos" Krzyzewski at July 06, 2026 02:51 AM (6VErX)

360 In memory of Jayzik "Jay Carly" Azikiwe.

Born to Flora in London, May 12, 1958, daughter of Nnamdi Azikiwe, the first President of Nigeria.

Died of cancer in Banjul, Gambia, January 31, 2008, as "The Phenomenal Woman," "The Simple Poet," and a mother of four.

And in between, she charmed millions as Roller Girl, the real star of a certain 1981 music video.

she gets rock n roll a rock n roll station
and a rock n roll dream
she’s making movies on location
she don’t know what it means
but the music make her wanna be the story
and the story was whatever was the song what it was
rollergirl don’t worry
d.j. play the movies all night long

Dire Straits - Skateaway (Official Music Video)
https://youtu.be/vcwl-Q7pAtY

It is not her fault that, in some way, she symbolizes the death of our great cities as Generational Places in their own right. At some point, they somehow transformed into mere theaters for the youthful development of all the world's transnational elites; and she was there for it, but did not make it happen.

Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 03:11 AM (Sy6m/)

361 Is it just me, or is commenting kinda light tonight?

Can't lurk without comments to lurk up0n.

Posted by: Late-Night Lurker at July 06, 2026 03:15 AM (LqqGi)

362
Time to take another whack at creating an ONT.


Hour of the Wolf took an axe
And gave the ONT forty whacks.
Weird Dave saw what he had done
And gave the ONT forty-one.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 03:20 AM (s9VOe)

363
Is it just me, or is commenting kinda light tonight?

Can't lurk without comments to lurk up0n.
Posted by: Late-Night Lurker


Just what do you mean "light"? Like, in the loafers? Out with it, you!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 06, 2026 03:22 AM (s9VOe)

364 youtu.be/O-t2h5qeEo4

It's pretty light tonight. Holiday, work day coming up, etc. Good time to post obscure songs from my yute.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2026 03:27 AM (sAmhv)

365 Not a good night, and medical specialist after work today

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2026 03:48 AM (Ia/+0)

366 Just watched an interesting Russian WW2 movie. Small unit stuff. In Russian with subtitles. Free on Prime.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 06, 2026 03:52 AM (DZ9Lv)

367
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 06, 2026 03:52 AM (DZ9Lv)

================

Title, please.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 06, 2026 03:56 AM (mmrXZ)

368 Insomnia, Skip?

I've been working midshift for decades so my internal clock is boned. You have my sympathy. Good luck with the doc.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2026 03:57 AM (sAmhv)

369 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)

370 360 In memory of Jayzik "Jay Carly" Azikiwe.

Born to Flora in London, May 12, 1958, daughter of Nnamdi Azikiwe, the first President of Nigeria.

Died of cancer in Banjul, Gambia, January 31, 2008, as "The Phenomenal Woman," "The Simple Poet," and a mother of four.

And in between, she charmed millions as Roller Girl, the real star of a certain 1981 music video.

she gets rock n roll a rock n roll station
and a rock n roll dream
she’s making movies on location
she don’t know what it means
but the music make her wanna be the story
and the story was whatever was the song what it was
rollergirl don’t worry
d.j. play the movies all night long

Dire Straits - Skateaway (Official Music Video)
https://youtu.be/vcwl-Q7pAtY

It is not her fault that, in some way, she symbolizes the death of our great cities as Generational Places in their own right. At some point, they somehow transformed into mere theaters for the youthful development of all the world's transnational elites; and she was there for it, but did not make it happen.
Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 03:11 AM (Sy6m/)

I'm putting this on the tech thread.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)

371 Great stuff, SciVo.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

372 Thank you, m.

Posted by: SciVo at July 06, 2026 11:19 AM (Sy6m/)

Gun Thread: First July Edition!

070526 cal scaled.jpg

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the First July Edition? I told you it was coming, people! I told you, and dang if it isn't here!

Happy Birthday, America!! Did you have a fun and celebratory July 4th? Tell us how you marked the 250th in the comments below.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

******

FUNdamentals

Revolvers get a bad rap, don't you think? Especially the snubby, which I am inclined to think is the revolver's highest form. Not sure why, maybe from watching too many cops 'n robbers shows, but I am pretty sure they're my fave.

Are they challenging to shoot? No, not really. Are they challenging to shoot well? I'd say not much more than anything else really. This is why we practice - that is to repeatedly do something that is challenging in order to become better at doing that thing.

***

And finally we have a deranged lunatic and probable escapee from a mental institution:

I shot this at about 25 feet in double action. It's not difficult, because I have done it before. Like a bazillion times before. I have spent countless hours at the range shooting revolvers in double action. You can do this too!.

The secret that everyone seems to believe exists? Practice and fundamentals. That's it. That is the secret.

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Build an AR-15

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How Much?!

******

Ax Weasel

Q: Weasel, how does a Winchester 1873 Work?
A: Glad you axed.

******

Our Pal Bookkeeping

You know, I made a pretty good living at this.

******

P-47 Unboxing: Assembly and Pilot Familiarization

OK. Your P-47 has been delivered. Let's unbox that rascal, put it together, and go flying!

******

Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Express Delivery!

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The Brain Eaters!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

******

Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




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1 Blackout

Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (T8bqm)

2 2
: to knock, hit, or thrust vigorously often with a sharp noise

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

3 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

4 Remember, any shot that impacts an unacceptable distance from where you intended is not a 'miss', but rather an unintended lateral excursion.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (0sNs1)

5 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (Ia/+0)

6 Trying to beat RMBS as he mixes his martini.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (WcJqs)

7 I finally got a proper gun case so I can legally travel to my local range.

Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2026 07:02 PM (T8bqm)

8 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 07:02 PM (BCwQW)

9 Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (0sNs1)
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At least in the horizontal plane.

Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM (30WOE)

10 Not First!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM (3CpER)

11 It doesn't get much better than a S&W M-66 with a 3" barrel.

Unless, of course, you also consider a S&W M-657 Mountain Gun.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM (0sNs1)

12 Trying to beat RMBS as he mixes his martini.
Posted by: RI Red
**********
He won....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 05, 2026 07:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

13 Had a really good cigar yesterday, cause, 'Murica! Will write review soon.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 07:04 PM (2WIwB)

14 It is big enough for both guns and their scopes. I will need a 2nd case for the Gamo.

Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2026 07:04 PM (8jVAy)

15 Happy Independence weekend...so, a video on building an AR-15, how timely. Thank you!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 05, 2026 07:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

16 At least in the horizontal plane.
Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM


"No willingness to consider at least some vertical dispersion?"
-- The Fourth Shot

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 07:06 PM (0sNs1)

17 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at July 05, 2026 07:06 PM (sAmhv)

18 Trying to beat RMBS as he mixes his martini.
Posted by: RI Red
**********
He won....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 05, 2026 07:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

Distracting me with Ben Had recipe tips.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:06 PM (WcJqs)

19 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special 250th greeting (or maybe it only seems like that many) to our host Weasel!

Hope all have had a fun and safe Independence Day weekend.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at July 05, 2026 07:07 PM (xVpNO)

20 Greetings all, not going to be on much tonight. :-(

Ahhh, looking forward to the day I can hang out all night on the fun thread and not worry about what I have to do tomorrow.
And also be able to talk about new toys or accessories. :-)

Hope everyone had a fun and safe Independence Day. Can't believe I have celebrated the 200th and the 250th birth of this great nation. Would really love to be around for the 300th. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 05, 2026 07:08 PM (3CpER)

21 I love my revolver. If I can't get it in 6 nine isn't going to help.me.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 07:17 PM (afJtY)

22 Having returned from my self imposed St. Helena isolation, I now have an actual Range Report!

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:20 PM (iaf7q)

23 Having returned from my self imposed St. Helena isolation, I now have an actual Range Report!
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:20 PM


Frère!

Posted by: zombie Napoleon Bonaparte at July 05, 2026 07:24 PM (0sNs1)

24 Greetings.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 05, 2026 07:27 PM (CHHv1)

25 Weasel, nice vid about shooting accurately with snub nosed revolvers. A 1994 Detective Special was my first revolver. Probably not the best choice for a first revolver I could have made, but it took me nearly twenty years to figure out how to shoot that thing halfway accurately in double action. You can learn in a little over eight minutes what it took me nearly 20 years to figure out.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 07:29 PM (BCwQW)

26 Build an AR looks fun

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 07:30 PM (/+uur)

27 I guess elon needs to get paul pelosi a tesla with auto pilot. That way he won't need to do any more holiday hit & runs. What a scumbag. Just like his wife.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 07:31 PM (fkjGs)

28 Distracting me with Ben Had recipe tips.
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:06 PM

If it's a fair fight, you ain't tryin'.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 07:31 PM (Wnv9h)

29 Build an AR looks fun
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 07:30 PM

Build-an-AR >>> Build-a-Bear

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 07:32 PM (Wnv9h)

30 Range report: i got banned from the range.
Everyone who's taken a junior hunting knows the move to take a rifle safely from a distracted youngling, and i pulled that move on a bloke who was monkeying with my diopter after i agreed to let him take a shot. (It was between rounds at a300 match)
Turns out he was a Somebody in the club. But it was an LPVO and now I've got another 3 hours of monkeying around to get back to proper 1x.
AITA?

Posted by: Nato at July 05, 2026 07:34 PM (XAyZ8)

31 Build-A-BAR > Build-an-AR >>> Build-a-Bear

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 07:34 PM (vTZFs)

32 https://www.shootingnewsweekly.com/
gun-nation/celebrate-americas-birthday-like-a-patriot-
build-your-own-ar-15-rifle/

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 07:35 PM (/+uur)

33 sorry I cannot make short earl thingy work

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 07:35 PM (/+uur)

34 OK, range report:
I got back to the range after 4 weeks. The grass was a foot tall. I took our brand new zero turn John Deere and did the entire club in 4.5 hours. As compared to 10 hours on the tractor last year!

I may go shoot this week.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:37 PM (iaf7q)

35 Range report: i got banned from the range.
[ ... ]
Turns out he was a Somebody in the club.


* sigh * Sometimes I prefer commercial for-profit ranges to clubs. Clubs are always run by old farts who think it's the Gun HOA.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 07:37 PM (vTZFs)

36 Trying to beat RMBS as he mixes his martini.
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (WcJqs)

KINK-eee!

Posted by: Safe word is "Bond" at July 05, 2026 07:40 PM (TbWk/)

37 28 Distracting me with Ben Had recipe tips.
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:06 PM

If it's a fair fight, you ain't tryin'.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 07:31 PM (Wnv9h)


Like and follow for more recipe tips...

Posted by: SciVo at July 05, 2026 07:42 PM (Sy6m/)

38 Safe word is "Bond" at July 05, 2026 07:40 PM

Now you tell me. At least I know why I'm not getting any action.

Posted by: James at July 05, 2026 07:42 PM (0sNs1)

39 The secret that everyone seems to believe exists? Practice and fundamentals. That's it. That is the secret.


And a very expensive custom trigger job. That's three. Amongst our weaponry are practice, fundamentals, a very expensive custom trigger job, and superhuman index finger strength!

Posted by: I'll come in again... at July 05, 2026 07:44 PM (TbWk/)

40 Trigger pull is breathing and compression.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 07:45 PM (afJtY)

41 Leonard Nemoy is in The Brain Eaters. I wonder if he eats Spock's brain?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2026 07:45 PM (Cqx++)

42 Weasel, just watched your vid. At the end my cats were freaked by Weasel Dog!
Nice job.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:50 PM (iaf7q)

43 Breathing control, trigger control and ammo. I've had primers that go off and then the slug goes half way down the barrel and gets lodged. Not a good situation.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 07:52 PM (fkjGs)

44 Weasel, just watched your vid. At the end my cats were freaked by Weasel Dog!
Nice job.
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:50 PM


Weasel Dog was a savage.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 07:54 PM (Wnv9h)

45 I've had ammo that comes out of the barrel like a corkscrew because it was a couple of thousands out of tolerance and what I thought was a perfect heart shot ended up being me putting a round into the spine by the rear quarters. There is some really shitty, out of tolerance ammo out there.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 08:00 PM (fkjGs)

46 There is some really shitty, out of tolerance ammo out there.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 08:00 PM (fkjGs)


Bespoke, handcrafted, artisanal, hand loaded ammo for the win!

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 08:02 PM (iaf7q)

47 There is some really shitty, out of tolerance ammo out there.

This is yet another form of wobbliness to eschew.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 08:02 PM (vTZFs)

48
"BOOKKEEPING AND YOU " 1947 CAREER GUIDANCE FILM ACCOUNTING, FINANCIAL RECORD KEEPING JOBS GG24505
+++++

It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 05, 2026 08:02 PM (2Ez/1)

49 My Smith and Wesson .357 Magnum was my first pistol purchase.

Teaches you a lot. Don’t be a pussy. Shoot double action. Makes you a better shooter. Because, at least to me, it’s not easy.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 08:02 PM (yEz+x)

50 I shot this at about 25 feet in double action.

Weasel shot an outstanding group, particularly being double-action, and the rudimentary sights the M-64 (and others of its ilk) have.

Follow Weasel-san's counsel, and you, too, may be a shooter of renown.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (0sNs1)

51 21 I love my revolver. If I can't get it in 6 nine isn't going to help.me.
Posted by: Ben Had


Much wisdom from Ben Had.

My take is similar: "If you can't solve your problem with six, you would probably be facing an unhappy ending no matter what you had!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (hOUT3)

52 51 addendum
Unless it is belt-fed!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (hOUT3)

53 Going to ask which, EdL, etc....
Did the "cost of a rifle" guy miss anything?

My first thought was, how much of the cost of a Moisin-Nagant was subsidized by us giving them other weapons?

I also had to wonder at the prices. 55 reichsmarks wouldn't buy you much at all by 1943. Maybe half a stick of gum. How much did it really cost, based on, say, a rifle factory worker buying a loaf of bread?

Also, I could have sworn Germany went semi-auto before the war, to some extent.

Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (akrkX)

54 Don’t be a pussy.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 08:02 PM


There is iron in the words of nurse ratched for all Morons to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 08:05 PM (0sNs1)

55 Trigger pull is breathing and compression.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 07:45 PM (afJtY)

Trigger control is self-control.

Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 08:06 PM (akrkX)

56 My Smith and Wesson .357 Magnum was my first pistol purchase.

Teaches you a lot. Don’t be a pussy. Shoot double action. Makes you a better shooter. Because, at least to me, it’s not easy.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 08:02 PM


My first pistol purchase was a Colt 1911. My second was a S&W 640 Centennial snubbie in .357 (I load it with 158 gr .38 Spcl +Ps). Not an easy pistol to shoot well, but a good pistol.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 08:06 PM (Wnv9h)

57 In honor of the 4th the four of us smoked Penn Standard Stars and Stripes. Mildish broadleaf. Fun and definitely appropriate for the Holiday.

Posted by: YellowBird at July 05, 2026 08:07 PM (MEbkQ)

58 Trying to beat RMBS as he mixes his martini.
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (WcJqs)

Wouldn't that be "muddling RMBS"?

Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 08:07 PM (akrkX)

59 Ah! Another visit from Weaseldog Productions. Always a welcome event.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 08:08 PM (yTvNw)

60 Trigger pull is muscle memory.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 08:13 PM (6vVfZ)

61 It doesn't get much better than a S&W M-66 with a 3" barrel.

Unless, of course, you also consider a S&W M-657 Mountain Gun.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM (0sNs1)

A 657 Mountain Gun loaded with finely crafted hand loads in .41 Special brass. I used my own cast 220 grain lead semiwadcutters, a moderate amount of Unique powder, and what had been a rather mediocre shooter suddenly became one of those guns that I had always read about, but had never actually owned.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 05, 2026 08:17 PM (W5PEE)

62 Also, I could have sworn Germany went semi-auto before the war, to some extent.
Posted by: GWB

Nope, they messed around with several types before the STG 44, Walther made some of them but they were not field hardy enough to be used widely.

Most German infantry had bolt actions until near the end of the war on the Western front, some machine guns, but no general issue semi auto or full automatic rifles. Instead, the Germans employed excellent light and heavy machines guns.

On the Eastern front, the STG-44 was hidden from Mustache man until quite late when Russia was pushing back the Germans across the entire front. That is where the STG-44 came into its own with Russian wave attacks using their own Russian machine guns.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:20 PM (E4rtv)

63 I have a 686 stainless revolver under my seat and it is my insurance for all unfortunate situations that may arise. Last time I used it was for a roadkill when some idiot hit a deer at 90mph at 4:30am and left it dying in the middle of the road. I'm getting too old to be dragging animals off the road.

I really like that revolver, the custom grip fits my hand like a glove.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 08:21 PM (fkjGs)

64 Build-A-BAR > Build-an-AR >>> Build-a-Bear
Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 07:34 PM


OK, now I'm really annoyed that I didn't think of the Build-a-BAR pun.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 08:22 PM (Wnv9h)

65 Also, I could have sworn Germany went semi-auto before the war, to some extent.
Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (akrkX)

Germany did issue a couple of semiautomatic rifles towards the end of the war, in the full size 8x57 caliber, but like so many other arms projects it was a case of too little and too late.

Cue the fanboys of the STG-44 assault rifle...

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 05, 2026 08:23 PM (W5PEE)

66 My first thought was, how much of the cost of a Moisin-Nagant was subsidized by us giving them other weapons?

I also had to wonder at the prices. 55 reichsmarks wouldn't buy you much at all by 1943. Maybe half a stick of gum. How much did it really cost, based on, say, a rifle factory worker buying a loaf of bread?

Also, I could have sworn Germany went semi-auto before the war, to some extent.
Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (akrkX)

Very, very few Western Allied small arms made it into Soviet service in any numbers whatsoever due to logistics issues. Note that significant numbers of M1928A1 Thompsons came back in the early 2000s as parts kits because these were included w/ the M3 Stuart and Lee tanks sent over as Lend Lease.

The Germans had VERY large numbers of slave laborers making firearms. When the FN plant at Liege was liberated in September 1944, 90+% of the workers were Eastern European slave laborers.

The Germans did introduce the G41 and G43 semi auto rifles after encountering Soviet SVTs on the Eastern Front. But the Mauser K98 remained the de facto standard rifle for entire war.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 08:23 PM (BCwQW)

67 Rev.Wishbone, that is what I love about my revolver. It feels like a natural extension of my hand.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:24 PM (afJtY)

68 61 It doesn't get much better than a S&W M-66 with a 3" barrel.

Unless, of course, you also consider a S&W M-657 Mountain Gun.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

I like the trigger pull on S&W revolvers and they are easy enough to tune yourself if needed but for awhile since the 1960's, their quality seems to come and go as S&W sales do.

IMHO, 50's and early 60's were some of the best overall combination of modern metallurgy, fit and finish, and quality that Smith had. Bangor Punta era produced hit or miss quality, the later gunlock mfg that merged with Smith buggered up Smith from the mid 90's onward with the Hillary hole.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:24 PM (E4rtv)

69 that is what I love about my revolver. It feels like a natural extension of my hand.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Revolvers often 'point' naturally if your grips and frame fit your hand. Like a handshake from an old friend. A few semi autos do it for me but that is more idiosyncratic.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:27 PM (E4rtv)

70 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 05, 2026 08:29 PM (fKauK)

71 Also, I could have sworn Germany went semi-auto before the war, to some extent.
Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (akrkX)

Only the US was successful in making semi-auto weapons front line standard issue in the form of the M1 Garand rifle and the M1 Carbine. The Russians wanted to make the SVT their standard issue rifle, but the German invasion forced them to shelve their plans to do so. Instead, they went with the Mosin Nagant, relying on the PPsh 41 for their close combat firepower.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 08:29 PM (BCwQW)

72 We have passed July 1 in Virginia. But I am in Florida.

Anyway, apparently the courts found the more onerous parts of the Virginia gun laws...onerous.

So Virginia county courts enjoined the laws. Injunctions.

Virginia Dems in charge are like - no worries. We will just enforce the laws anyway.

Interesting approach, that.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 05, 2026 08:32 PM (fKauK)

73 The spawn starts shooting on the 14th for SASP Nationals. She is shooting 9 disciplines this year including rim fire revolver. This is probably her last year since she wants to do some traveling and fun stuff next summer before college. 😳

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at July 05, 2026 08:33 PM (VCgbV)

74 whig, my revolver has a less than 10 degree lower than level angle when I pick it up so bringing it to sighting level is a snap. I am not forced to hold it up it just falls into place.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:33 PM (afJtY)

75 For info to those who may not know the vernacular--

A firearm that 'points' naturally is one that when raised to a firing position, the front and back sight are nearly if not completely aligned with little operator action needed.

Makes them easier to shoot as the shooter only has to worry about controlling the trigger more than aligning the sights.

Some firearms may naturally have the front sight point down below the rear, some will point high, and it is all dependent on the individual's personal physique. You can train using a weapon that doesn't point well naturally but it is always easier to shoot a firearm that points well in the first place.

For me, most Glocks do not 'point' naturally but Springfield XD or Smith and Wesson do. So rathe than conform my shooting technique to the gun, I chose the gun to conform with my shooting technique.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv)

76 Also - spent the past few days on blaster acres. We are now harvesting electrons there. AC runs from the sun!

Also - I had a tick on my wrist. It has been removed.

sra blaster says I hope that's not the kind that makes you allergic to meat. Me too! That would suck. A lot.

It's a "Lone Star tick" which is the type that carries that. But it is still rare.

And why is a Lone Star Tick in Florida?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 05, 2026 08:38 PM (fKauK)

77 Interesting approach, that.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 05, 2026 08:32 PM (fKauK)


I liked it better when Sic Semper Tyrannis on the Virginia State flag still meant something.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 05, 2026 08:39 PM (hOUT3)

78 And why is a Lone Star Tick in Florida?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat


Ask Bill Gates...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 05, 2026 08:40 PM (hOUT3)

79 next summer before college. 😳
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at July 05, 2026 08:33 PM


Wait...whut? Is she a senior this year?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 08:40 PM (Wnv9h)

80 74 whig, my revolver has a less than 10 degree lower than level angle when I pick it up so bringing it to sighting level is a snap. I am not forced to hold it up it just falls into place.
Posted by: Ben Had
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I practice draws while I have not being going to the range and on a firearm that points well for me, my sights are on target as long as my drawstroke is good. Then again, I don't use 'target' sights either on my firearms for serious social encounters.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:41 PM (E4rtv)

81 Weasel,
Thanks for the revolver oriented videos. Revolvers are my handgun of choice for many reasons but DA triggers are the most difficult to learn. I have a Model 10, a police trade-in, that looks like absolute crap but functions fine. I don't know what such things cost today but years ago I paid about $150 for it. I consider it an excellent tool to learn centerfire DA shooting with a decent but typical trigger. And using 38 special wadcutter reloads keeps ammo costs way down.

A nice benefit: the better I got with DA triggers the better I shot with SA revolvers. Just had to get used to the lighter SA trigger.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 08:41 PM (yTvNw)

82 IMHO, 50's and early 60's were some of the best overall combination of modern metallurgy, fit and finish, and quality that Smith had. Bangor Punta era produced hit or miss quality, the later gunlock mfg that merged with Smith buggered up Smith from the mid 90's onward with the Hillary hole.
Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:24 PM


Concur. I've been very happy with my S&W MGs (.41, .44, .45), all of which are 98-99 timeframe. They have the frame-mounted FP, and (unfortunately) some MIM internals, but no HH. My regrets are not buying a second 657 for $350 in the mid-2000s, and never getting a MG in .357.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 08:42 PM (0sNs1)

83 There are, of course, significant downsides to having cheaper labor costs by using large numbers of slave laborers making your firearms. If the FN factory is any indication, an ongoing sabotage war raged within the factory from 1941 until liberation day in 1944. The most effective form of sabotage was overheating steel undergoing heat treatment. This allowed the steel to pass internal inspection, but the resulting embrittlement meant parts would fail under heavy use. For this reason, FN pistols made during the occupation should not be shot heavily. Numbers of "lunchbox specials" of all FN pistol types (Model 1910, Model 1922, and High Powers) were smuggled out for resistance use and survive to this day.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 08:43 PM (BCwQW)

84 On my trip to blaster acres I had intended to ex-fil some items. Looks like I don't need to do that quite yet.

Also, I wanted to clear a spot to make a 25 yard range. But the Hammer Knife Mower is currently non-op. I had used an insufficiently beefy lovejoy coupler on it and it broke a tooth when I hit a high spot of ground. I got a new coupler but it is having fitment issues.

So no flail mowing. Sad.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 05, 2026 08:43 PM (fKauK)

85 This has good pictures above the handgun as a bird would see it. Goes to handgun fit.

https://tinyurl.com/Gun-Goddess-on-handgun-fit

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:44 PM (E4rtv)

86 And why is a Lone Star Tick in Florida?
------
Ask Bill Gates...


NPR did a story about the tick and the associated disease and somehow completely forgot to mention the left pushing the idea of spreading it on purpose to reduce meat consumption.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 08:44 PM (vTZFs)

87 Brave AI has a good summary of pointing
"Natural point of aim (NPA) for a handgun refers to the position where the firearm naturally aligns with a target when the shooter assumes a relaxed stance with minimal muscle tension. This concept is critical for accuracy and speed, particularly in self-defense scenarios where stress degrades conscious aiming skills.

To check your NPA, adopt a shooting stance, close your eyes, raise the unloaded pistol to aim at a target, and then open your eyes. If the sights are not on target, adjust your body position—typically by shifting your feet—rather than forcing the gun with your arms. A gun that matches your body’s geometry will require less conscious effort to keep the sights on target.

Key factors influencing natural pointing include:

Grip Angle: Pistols like the 1911 (18-degree angle) and Glock (22-degree angle) have different natural pointing tendencies, which can affect alignment for shooters accustomed to other platforms.
Body Mechanics: Proper NPA relies on skeletal support and muscle relaxation; misalignment often results in consistent misses to the left or right. "

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:45 PM (E4rtv)

88 Sophie Cunningham seems to be pretty good at natural pointing.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 08:47 PM (0sNs1)

89 I am forever grateful to the gentleman than provided me with my revolver. You know who you are and what you did.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:47 PM (afJtY)

90 I have a Model 10, a police trade-in, that looks like absolute crap but functions fine. I don't know what such things cost today but years ago I paid about $150 for it.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 08:41 PM (yTvNw)

S&W's catalog has the Model 10 Classic's MSRP as $1,019.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 08:47 PM (BCwQW)

91 I avoided revolvers for a long time. Now I have 2 - a Heritage Rough Rider in 22LR (the Ace of Spades gun!) and a Pietta SAA in .357/.38 as well as a separate 9mm cylinder.

As a gun the SAA pattern is not as good as modern guns.

There. I said it.

And it's single action - its in the name.

But they remain cool. And everybody wants to be a cowboy.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 05, 2026 08:48 PM (fKauK)

92 Correction, gentlemen.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:48 PM (afJtY)

93 They're getting much rarer, but police turn-in revolvers (including M-10s) can be found from time to time at reasonable prices.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 08:49 PM (0sNs1)

94 BH, I seem to recall it might have been a spoils of war situation?

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 08:50 PM (WcJqs)

95 And it's single action - its in the name.

But they remain cool. And everybody wants to be a cowboy.
Posted by: blaster
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If I hunted with a handgun, then yes, I would want a single action. Better options out there today for people.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:51 PM (E4rtv)

96 A nice feature of a SA/DA revolver is the choice it gives you.

I can't say the same for a SA/DA semi-automatic (Sig P229, I'm looking at you).

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 08:53 PM (0sNs1)

97 No time to do any shooting this week, but I did finally pay my dues (5 days late) at the range.
Does that count? 😋

Posted by: buddhaha at July 05, 2026 08:54 PM (iaABv)

98 RI Red, it was mentioning a close approxcimity to a 600lb boar with not even a stick in my hand.

I chose run as the only option.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:54 PM (afJtY)

99 93 They're getting much rarer, but police turn-in revolvers (including M-10s) can be found from time to time at reasonable prices.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Aim surplus occasionally gets some (suspect Century International is the primary source)--usually security agency turnins or from foreign countries.

Taurus has gotten better with its Q/A as has this iteration of Charter Arms. So both are viable sources for revolvers. Stay away from used of either of these brands unless you know how to evaluate revolvers properly.

Colts made since the 70's are fine, before then, the lockwork means that some Colts are fine and others require retiming the action which is a pain to find gunsmiths up to that and expensive when you do. They modernized the lockwork beginning the late 60's from leaf springs to coils.

Rugers are pretty much bombproof but not always the best trigger pulls.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:55 PM (E4rtv)

100 This seems like the place to drop this, possibly the most American viedo ever.

https://rb.gy/iqxd2s (Goes to X(twitter))

Posted by: Tennessee Jed at July 05, 2026 08:55 PM (CLS0Q)

101 I have a Model 10, a police trade-in, that looks like absolute crap but functions fine. I don't know what such things cost today but years ago I paid about $150 for it.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 08:41 PM (yTvNw)

S&W's catalog has the Model 10 Classic's MSRP as $1,019.
Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 08:47 PM (BCwQW)

There is a nice looking Model 10, made in 1962, on Gunbroker right now. Bids are over $500 and there are still 3 days to go on the auction.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 05, 2026 08:57 PM (W5PEE)

102 96 A nice feature of a SA/DA revolver is the choice it gives you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Only if you know how to safely decock a cocked revolver. I never encouraged the people I taught how to shoot to cock the hammer in order to shoot. Better to teach double action from teh get go.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 08:58 PM (E4rtv)

103 They're getting much rarer, but police turn-in revolvers (including M-10s) can be found from time to time at reasonable prices.

Just another "one that got away" story but a few years ago, Cabela's had a bunch of model 65s in very good condition with LEO stampings for, IIRC, less than $400. Interestingly, they all had bobbed hammers. I guess whichever agency it was that had them didn't want to risk any "it just went off" lawsuits.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 08:59 PM (vTZFs)

104 Jim sunkNewDawn had a bunch of fun revolvers. He would tell you about them, show you how to handle them and then let you shoot them. His guns. His ammo. His knowledge. Good guy.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 09:01 PM (yEz+x)

105 Posted by: Tennessee Jed at July 05, 2026 08:55 PM (CLS0Q)

Check out the 1911 Syndicate's video on the origins of the 1911. The hosts go through the numerous predecessors to the 1911 and test fire several of these rare firearms, including Colt's Model 1907 prototype and JMB's prototype Model 1909 automatic.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:02 PM (BCwQW)

106 Thank you for the Thread, Weasel!!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 09:03 PM (0sNs1)

107 90 ... "
S&W's catalog has the Model 10 Classic's MSRP as $1,019"

Ouch! For that price for a Model 10 I expect it to include a car to drive it home. Sticker shock occurs more frequently as I get older.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 09:04 PM (yTvNw)

108 101 I have a Model 10, a police trade-in, that looks like absolute crap but functions fine. I don't know what such things cost today but years ago I paid about $150 for it.
Posted by: JTB

They are bringing 350-400 retail nowadays for worn finish Model 10's around here. A bit more for the stainless varieties in 38 Special.

For about $100 to $150 more, look for a worn Combat Masterpiece Model 15==adjustable sights and very shootable. The Target Masterpieces (model 14 in 38 Special) are also excellent but often a bit more pricey and harder to draw (Patridge front sight is sharp enough to hang on the draw).

All of the numbered Smith and Wesson models are suitable for +p 38 Special and that began about 1957.

USAF used those Model 15s for decades until finally moving to the Beretta 92's around the Gulf War time.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:05 PM (E4rtv)

109 Cabela's had a bunch of model 65s in very good condition with LEO stampings for, IIRC, less than $400. Interestingly, they all had bobbed hammers. I guess whichever agency it was that had them didn't want to risk any "it just went off" lawsuits.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 08:59 PM (vTZFs)

A lot of PD's modified their revolvers to function in double action only because single action often produced negligent discharges, whether through poor gun handling or mishaps (rubbing a holster against a car seat, etc.). It's more difficult (but not impossible) for a small slip to overcome the heavier pull required for double action. Also, double action only usually requires the officer to deliberately make a decision to pull the trigger.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:07 PM (BCwQW)

110 Ouch! For that price for a Model 10 I expect it to include a car to drive it home. Sticker shock occurs more frequently as I get older.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 09:04 PM (yTvNw)

I understand that they're only made in batches now, not mass produced as they were decades ago. Smaller production runs = higher per unit cost.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:08 PM (BCwQW)

111 I guess whichever agency it was that had them didn't want to risk any "it just went off" lawsuits.
Posted by: Oddbob

A criminal trial involving Janet Reno prosecuting a cop rested on the cop allegedly cocking the revolver and shooting the suspect by accident. Total bullshit but caused a riot when the Hispanic cop got off from the lawsuit. A similar thing happened in Canada causing a furor. So police chiefs started switching police revolvers to double action only (DAO). That later led Miami police to be able to move to Glocks as the ATF classified those as Double Action Only.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:09 PM (E4rtv)

112 And for what it is worth,

DAO revolvers have a bit faster lock time due to the single action notch being removed from teh hammer, than the traditional double action revolver.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:10 PM (E4rtv)

113 What causes revolvers to have a more hand conforming grip shape as compared to semi automatics.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 09:13 PM (afJtY)

114 USAF used those Model 15s for decades until finally moving to the Beretta 92's around the Gulf War time.
Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:05 PM (E4rtv)

I remember reading somewhere (The Firearms Blog?) that the USAF retained surviving Model 15s as war reserve weapons that were still used for training until just a couple of years ago (2023-24). Not sure what their ultimate fate will be, but given their age and likely condition, I suspect "Captain Crunch" will have his due.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:13 PM (BCwQW)

115
And points of her own, sittin' way up high
Way up firm and high

Posted by: Bob Seger at July 05, 2026 09:16 PM (2Ez/1)

116 What causes revolvers to have a more hand conforming grip shape as compared to semi automatics.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 09:13 PM (afJtY)

Lack of a need to form around a straight magazine is my guess.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 05, 2026 09:16 PM (zZu0s)

117 What causes revolvers to have a more hand conforming grip shape as compared to semi automatics.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 09:13 PM (afJtY)

I think it's because the grips have much more influence on how the revolver feels in your hands than a semiautomatic pistol. I don't particularly care for the thin service grips on a Colt Python. But if I swap them out for Pachmyr Presentation or "Gripper" grips, that same Python feels completely different in my hands.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:18 PM (BCwQW)

118 Brains for breakfast
Brains for lunch
Brains for dinner
Brains for brunch
All we ever eat are brains
Why can’t we have some guts
Oi! Oi! Oi!

Posted by: Misfits at July 05, 2026 09:20 PM (4g5V+)

119 Sign off time, Weasel. Thanks. Lots of knowledge tonight.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 09:22 PM (WcJqs)

120 USAF used those Model 15s for decades until finally moving to the Beretta 92's around the Gulf War time.
Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:05 PM (E4rtv)

All the services didn’t switch in 1985? (When they went to the M18 that took no time at all.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:22 PM (4g5V+)

121 I remember reading somewhere (The Firearms Blog?) that the USAF retained surviving Model 15s as war reserve weapons that were still used for training until just a couple of years ago (2023-24). Not sure what their ultimate fate will be, but given their age and likely condition, I suspect "Captain Crunch" will have his due.
Posted by: Ed L

AF is cheap on weapons--they are still rebuilding old AR receivers for use.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:25 PM (E4rtv)

122 35 Range report: i got banned from the range.
[ ... ]
Turns out he was a Somebody in the club.

* sigh * Sometimes I prefer commercial for-profit ranges to clubs. Clubs are always run by old farts who think it's the Gun HOA.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 07:37 PM (vTZFs)

And sadly those are the only ones with the time to run them.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:25 PM (4g5V+)

123 All the services didn’t switch in 1985? (When they went to the M18 that took no time at all.)
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Took awhile for the Beretta 92's to filter down to all units. We got ours in 1991 which pissed me off. I shot the Smith 15 a lot better because the grip on the 92's was too damn big. Still have a disliking for them after all these years and I damn sure never bought one for myself.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:26 PM (E4rtv)

124 Thanks Weasel for hosting the gun thread and commenters for their learned commentary.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:27 PM (E4rtv)

125 Ok, folks. 9:28 thank you time.

Thank you!

Appreciate your being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2026 09:28 PM (zqeQL)

126 Well, since I won't be buying any Model 10s this week, guess I'll get some reloading primers instead.

Grafs.com is running a "free" Hazmat fee special this weekend that will last for a couple more hours. Have to spend $250 to get the $24 fee waived.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 05, 2026 09:28 PM (W5PEE)

127 > What causes revolvers to have a more hand conforming grip shape as compared to semi automatics.
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No magazine in the grip.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 09:29 PM (jehhT)

128 113 ... "What causes revolvers to have a more hand conforming grip shape as compared to semi automatics."

Good evening, Ben Had,

Never saw this explained but assumed revolver grips were meant to conform to the hand and allow for more comfort dealing with recoil. They were also easy to modify. Semi grips were only about holding the magazine.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 09:29 PM (yTvNw)

129 Food thread , I come to share
Gun Thread, I come to learn

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 09:30 PM (afJtY)

130 All the services didn’t switch in 1985? (When they went to the M18 that took no time at all.)

It took a while for the M9 to replace the M1911 (and other secondary standard handguns). My National Guard unit didn't get their M9s until 1995. Also, the M9 was ill suited for investigative branches like CID, NCIS, and OSI because it was so large. These organizations ended up going with the Sig M11. And the special operations guys never really did warm up to the M9. Delta ended up staying with their custom 1911s. The SEALs chose to go with the Mk-25 (Sig P226). The 1911 was in fairly common use with the Green Berets as late as 2012. And the USMC Force Recon refused to go with the M9, sticking with updated 1911s until they got the Colt M45A1 in 2012.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:30 PM (BCwQW)

131 113 What causes revolvers to have a more hand conforming grip shape as compared to semi automatics.
Posted by: Ben Had

The Smith K frame is recognized along with the 1911 or the Browning High Power as having a grip that is almost universally one that fits most hand sizes. The old timey guys literally whittle down steel until it felt right. For the 1911, it was usually the unsung Browning brother who was a master machinist. For the High Power, I think it was Browning's French apprentice, Dieudonné Saive IIRC. Dunno about the K Frame.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:31 PM (E4rtv)

132 Late, as usual, but my $.02 is that grip angle is the most important factor in "feel"... I fit the classic 1911 well, and really enjoy the newer Beretta "overlander"... similar angles.

Of course, ymmv...

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 09:32 PM (XuXeR)

133 Took awhile for the Beretta 92's to filter down to all units. We got ours in 1991 which pissed me off. I shot the Smith 15 a lot better because the grip on the 92's was too damn big. Still have a disliking for them after all these years and I damn sure never bought one for myself.
Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:26 PM (E4rtv)

That is surprising…but the USAF was also bigger then. When the M18 was brought in it was like BAM! here they are. One day I am going through the gate encountering SF with M9s, the next they all have M18s. Which meant I needed to run out and buy my own for familiarization and mastery purposes. (Little did I know that when I purchased my M18 I’d be retired in less than 18 months.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:32 PM (4g5V+)

134 I have a pistol to match each one I carried as a GI: a S&W 15, a Beretta M9, and last but not least, a Sig M18. Fired hundreds of rounds through each over 22 years of service. I love them all for the good memories they bring - and the comfort they provide in protecting my house and family.

Posted by: Al Shabbah at July 05, 2026 09:33 PM (ImLCC)

135 AF is cheap on weapons--they are still rebuilding old AR receivers for use.
Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:25 PM (E4rtv)

I know from personal observation that a few old GAU-5 (Colt XM177E1) lower receivers were still in use in the mid-2010s.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:33 PM (BCwQW)

136 Good evening to all the GunHorde, and a Happy Independence Day 250 Sunday. Weasel , thank you for all the recent revolver content. If ever I can get caught up between work and the homeplace, it will be a help for the Cowboy shooting.

Have a great week everyone!

Posted by: Coelacanth at July 05, 2026 09:34 PM (DJPFk)

137 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:35 PM (BCwQW)

138 Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 05, 2026 09:36 PM (xcxpd)

139 Never saw this explained but assumed revolver grips were meant to conform to the hand and allow for more comfort dealing with recoil. They were also easy to modify. Semi grips were only about holding the magazine.
Posted by: JTB

Yes, but grips and actually the entire frames were also pretty far along on ergonomics by the turn of the 20th century due to 50 years or so of development. Bisley frames are designed for target use, the old Colt SAA frames were designed to roll up in the hand under recoil, and then grips were adapted as easier for the mfg than frame changes. So you had Magna grips that are fat at the bottom and skinny at the top for large hands, Tyler T adapters to prevent the trigger guard from popping the nuckles, splinter grips for smaller hands, and so on. You can find all sorts of grip experimentation from the 1900's through the 1970's with design, materials, etc.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:36 PM (E4rtv)

140 Gun range was closed for the 4th of July, so did not get out to shoot.

Next week...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 05, 2026 09:36 PM (xcxpd)

141 England lost 13 colonies but we did score one point in the new world

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 09:37 PM (K7yuL)

142 I have a pistol to match each one I carried as a GI: a S&W 15, a Beretta M9, and last but not least, a Sig M18.

Posted by: Al Shabbah at July 05, 2026 09:33 PM (ImLCC)


Nice! When did you carry the S&W?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 09:37 PM (l4RKn)

143 That is surprising…but the USAF was also bigger then. When the M18 was brought in it was like BAM! here they are. One day I am going through the gate encountering SF with M9s, the next they all have M18s. Which meant I needed to run out and buy my own for familiarization and mastery purposes. (Little did I know that when I purchased my M18 I’d be retired in less than 18 months.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:32 PM (4g5V+)

The M18's cost per unit today is a lot less (especially after factoring in inflation) than the M9's was back then in the 90s.

Posted by: Ed L at July 05, 2026 09:37 PM (BCwQW)

144 dropped a deuce on 'em

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 09:38 PM (K7yuL)

145 That is surprising…but the USAF was also bigger then. When the M18 was brought in it was like BAM! here they are. One day I am going through the gate encountering SF with M9s, the next they all have M18s. Which meant I needed to run out and buy my own for familiarization and mastery purposes. (Little did I know that when I purchased my M18 I’d be retired in less than 18 months.)
Posted by: Cow Demon

I was in Civil Engineering. We got the leftovers. Had Vietnam era M-16 A1s until just before I left the unit in the mid 90's.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:38 PM (E4rtv)

146 And I LIKED revolvers once.
I own/owned a lot of them. .22's, 38's, .357 magnums, .44 magnums, 9mms even.

And...though they are way better than single shots...I kinda hate them. As soon as 1900 comes around, there are much better options, they're called pistols.

I just don't enjoy shooting revolvers, but I do like the look and feel of revolvers. But the advantage of slides and recoil springs is just overwhelming.

Outside of a handful of niche roles, I don't endorse them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 05, 2026 09:39 PM (xcxpd)

147 You can find all sorts of grip experimentation from the 1900's through the 1970's with design, materials, etc."

Truth. Flipping thru magazines back then one would see... things. Sometimes strange things...

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 09:39 PM (XuXeR)

148 "Nice! When did you carry the S&W?"

1981 to 1988.

Posted by: Al Shabbah at July 05, 2026 09:39 PM (ImLCC)

149 Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel.

Time to punch out. See y'all in the Morning Report.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 09:39 PM (Wnv9h)

150 I know from personal observation that a few old GAU-5 (Colt XM177E1) lower receivers were still in use in the mid-2010s.
Posted by: Ed L

When I went through basic, the Air Force was still using those damn 22 LR adapters that don't work very well and left the rifles filthy.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:39 PM (E4rtv)

151 I just don't enjoy shooting revolvers, but I do like the look and feel of revolvers"

Same. For me, it's the slide/ action moving in the direction I'm aiming. Again, your mileage may vary...

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 09:42 PM (XuXeR)

152 Truth. Flipping thru magazines back then one would see... things. Sometimes strange things...
Posted by: man
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High Standard brought back the Bird's Head grip for the Sentinel series in the 50's, Pachmyrs developed several different rubber grips in the 60's and 70's, Colt experimented with something they called Coltwood, and I think the Ribber grip by Taurus was about the last of it. Ruger's GP-100 series introduced a frame that used a tang extension so a variety of grips could be used of differing sizes.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:43 PM (E4rtv)

153 I just don't enjoy shooting revolvers, but I do like the look and feel of revolvers. But the advantage of slides and recoil springs is just overwhelming.

Outside of a handful of niche roles, I don't endorse them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Depends on how much you practice regarding manual of arms and how much you are willing to deal with maintenance for autos. A neglected semi auto won't do well left in a drawer without lube and not much practice.

A revolver will function even with the ammo turning green from corrosion. For a casual shooter, I think revolvers do fine for the 1st rule of gunfights--have a gun.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:46 PM (E4rtv)

154 So here's a thought that occurs to me since we're talking about revolver grips. Has anyone tried carving their own? I rather like things like the Hogue grips with finger grooves but they aren't quite a perfect fit for me because I have relatively small hands as measured across the palm but also relatively long skinny fingers. I wonder if someone sells rough blanks that you can Dremel to fit.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 09:49 PM (vTZFs)

155 154 So here's a thought that occurs to me since we're talking about revolver grips. Has anyone tried carving their own? I rather like things like the Hogue grips with finger grooves but they aren't quite a perfect fit for me because I have relatively small hands as measured across the palm but also relatively long skinny fingers. I wonder if someone sells rough blanks that you can Dremel to fit.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Yep, or you can buy used oversized grips and then whittle them down to fit. Also some companies out there to do it for you if you do a drawing of your open hand and fingers to send it.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:50 PM (E4rtv)

156 Oddbob, for a total fitted grip, it will actually reduce felt recoil and improve control. Those guys that shoot professionally do that for theirs.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:51 PM (E4rtv)

157 FWIW, here is one seller that does the whole job--for semi-automatics too.

https://www.salvatoregrips.com/

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:53 PM (E4rtv)

158 Also some companies out there to do it for you if you do a drawing of your open hand and fingers to send it.

Hmmm... Gonna have to do some looking around now.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 09:54 PM (vTZFs)

159 Or, ya know, just wait for whig to hand it to me on a platter.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 09:55 PM (vTZFs)

160 Oddbob, these guys sell the blanks as well as custom grips.

https://badgercustomgrips.com/

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:57 PM (E4rtv)

161 Lots of boutique firms out there making grips and other things such as a new spate of speedloaders from the older Safariland/HKS models.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 09:59 PM (E4rtv)

162 159 Or, ya know, just wait for whig to hand it to me on a platter.
Posted by: Oddbob
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I've found a lot of vintage revolver holsters and grips on Ebay as well. Those old leather holsters go well in many cases with old revolvers as they have been broken in and often softened with age.

Posted by: whig at July 05, 2026 10:01 PM (E4rtv)

163 Willowed, but I need to say thanks to Ed L, whig, and Idaho Spudboy. Y'all are great.

Posted by: GWB at July 05, 2026 10:29 PM (kU0PQ)

Food Thread: We Will Just Muddle Along...

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Well, a few days ago it was 103 degrees outside, and as an accommodation to the warmth I decided to have a Gin & Tonic as opposed to a Manhattan (stirred, you animals!) or a Martini, or an Old Fashioned.

But a typical G&T out of a bar gun is a crap drink. The tonic is too sweet, the lime is an afterthought, and it's mostly ice.

So...a good G&T requires a half a lime muddled on the bottom of the glass to get some of that delicious oil out of the skin and into the drink! Yes, they are monoterpenes (and some other stuff)...why do you ask?

And then no more than two parts tonic to one part gin. The name of the drink starts with "GIN!" It should taste of it.

And for f*ck's sake, use a fresh bottle of tonic. There is nothing worse than flat tonic water in a G&T.

Put it in a glass with some ice, but not a huge amount. Diluted G&Ts are sad and painful reflections of what the drink can be.

What? NO...I am not obsessive-compulsive!

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30 Popular Recipes of the 1970s That Deserve a Comeback

That is Misanthropic Humanitarian's weekly trolling. Although, to be fair, there are some dishes that don't look too bad at all!

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I had an impromptu Bourbon tasting this afternoon with some friends who stopped by...thus the abbreviated Food Thread. They brought a couple of bottles to taste, and the Old Ezra 7 Year was my favorite! Just delicious. Just enough proof to make it an adult drink, with some lovely and complex aromas followed by a delightfully smooth mouth feel. There was a delicate hint of sweetness, but definitely not enough to interest your kids. And that's good, because this stuff is nowhere to be found around here, so I will have to hunt for it, because it is definitely worth some legwork!

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A friend of my MiL made these for our Independence Day get-together. She is obviously a professional baker, and these were absolutely delicious, as well as looking spectacular! She uses a lot of butter cream rather than fondant, so the icing isn't quite as sweet as is typical. Wow, they were great!

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I hope all of you had successful food experiences yesterday, no matter what you ate. A massive Independence Day barbecue, or a quiet meal of microwave burritos eaten over the sink...it's all good!

America...Happy 250th Birthday!

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The garlic is harvested! And it looks...well...sigh. Send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!

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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:06 PM (Ia/+0)

2 I like a half-ounce of Rose's Lime Juice in my G & T, for the prevention of scurvy.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at July 05, 2026 04:07 PM (Ft5W9)

3 BLT soon, something not overly hot

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:07 PM (Ia/+0)

4
Black cherry float. Good.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 04:08 PM (O0L8i)

5 Ask your bartender if Monoterpene is right for you.

Posted by: Big Tonic at July 05, 2026 04:09 PM (2Ez/1)

6 Hello Foodsters

A friend brought a bottle of Willets Bourbon to the fireworks show last night. I’m not a bourbon guy but it was tasty. I have no idea what it costs.

Posted by: Pete Bogs Agentic alter ego at July 05, 2026 04:09 PM (Wejm4)

7 > 2 I like a half-ounce of Rose's Lime Juice in my G & T, for the prevention of scurvy.
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at July 05, 2026 04:07 PM (Ft5W9)

I carry a flask of whisky as a remedy for snake bite.

I also carry a snake.

Posted by: W.C. Fields at July 05, 2026 04:11 PM (IG3/x)

8 Ate very American yesterday. Carne asada burrito and Modelo beer.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 04:12 PM (Kt19C)

9 Thanks for the reminder, CBD. I need to stock up on limes and tonic water.

Heck, I better check on the gin sitch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 04:13 PM (kpS4V)

10 Given the discussions re heat, humidity, and mosquitoes, gin is a prudent premptive medicinal.

Posted by: Malaria at July 05, 2026 04:13 PM (XeU6L)

11 Boy howdy I had a nice steak yesterday. Lovely slab of top sirloin. 30 minutes in a 400F oven, then a fast hot sear in the iron skillet. Perfectamundo!

Posted by: Savage Henry at July 05, 2026 04:14 PM (ZxPkt)

12 Ahhhh food thread - Sunday greatness. Thanks CBD and foodies. Bacon and breakfast potato skillet x 2 this weekend. Sourdough burger buns. And Bacardi - it is food too.

Posted by: scampydog at July 05, 2026 04:15 PM (41CYW)

13 WOW - Norway saved the penalty kick!

On food news, we're heading out to eat to celebrate the holiday, so heading out in a few...

Most fun thing made this week was a crustless pumpkin pie/flan. 1/2 a pumpkin pie filling can, extra cinnamon and nutmeg, 4 eggs, and 2/3 can of coconut cream (and a TB of two of maple syrup). Baked for 40 minutes at 350. Cooled at room temp and then fridge. Came out great - even gave it to the unexpected young adult male guest on top of my crew. He was wowed...then I had to tell him it would never be the same again b/c I don't measure and I change things up by taste, even baking...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2026 04:16 PM (tOcjL)

14 Terpenes are a large and diverse class of natural products with the general formula (C5Hn, where n ≥ 2. They serve as crucial biosynthetic building blocks in many organisms, particularly plants.

Terpenes are classified by the number of carbons: monoterpenes (C10), sesquiterpenes (C15), diterpenes (C20), as examples. The terpene alpha-pinene is a major component of turpentine, a common solvent.

Comprising more than 30,000 compounds, these unsaturated hydrocarbons are produced predominantly by plants, particularly conifers. In plants, terpenes and terpenoids are important mediators of ecological interactions, while some insects use some terpenes as a form of defense. Other functions of terpenoids include cell growth modulation and plant elongation, light harvesting and photoprotection, and membrane permeability and fluidity control.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 05, 2026 04:17 PM (0sNs1)

15 I saw a youtube video of a thing called "Ground beef stew." At my age, I do find ground beef preferable to chuck roast. Ground beef digests easily. So, that I want I have on the stove now.

I prefer a meatloaf to a pot roast. It's just easier on my tummy.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 04:17 PM (qFwJc)

16 (C5Hn = ( C5H8 )n

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 05, 2026 04:17 PM (0sNs1)

17 ...a Manhattan (stirred, you animals!)

Not being an aficionado of drinks with more than one ingredient, does that make an actual detectable difference? Have you ever double blind tested it?

My discovery this week was the existence of a Trader Joe's branded single malt scotch. The 12 year old was about $35 and the 18 was about $70. For seventy bucks, I can buy a scotch that I know I will like but thirty-five seems worth taking a shot. Result: meh. I won't pour it out but I won't buy it again.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 04:19 PM (vTZFs)

18 Burger cupcake is great! That looks like a lot of work.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 04:19 PM (h7ZuX)

19 Thinking of a pre dinner scotch

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:22 PM (Ia/+0)

20 Hmm...a muddled drink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCuqDrhJIqA

Yeah, she's a mite annoying, but this is a really refreshing summer cocktail.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 04:23 PM (Wnv9h)

21 Been enjoying pre dinner bourbon.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 04:24 PM (qFwJc)

22 Good for malaria too!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 05, 2026 04:25 PM (zZu0s)

23
I have a hypothesis that soda tastes better from a glass bottle than from an aluminum can.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 04:25 PM (O0L8i)

24 That is Misanthropic Humanitarian's weekly trolling.

Weekly trolling???? MisHum would never even *think* of trolling you, CBD. How could you think such a thing?

#BeBetter

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 04:26 PM (0sNs1)

25 *puts on hat*
*Drinks a bourbon aged 4 to 7 years*

Posted by: Perry the Platypus at July 05, 2026 04:28 PM (xcxpd)

26 There was rhubarb at the store Friday morning. Only $5 a pound! I bought all that weren’t rotten. When I was growing up it was something neighbors tried to donate to neighbors; as a kid I never minded the summers of rhubarb pie, bread, cake, and crumble. Oddly, my mom never made rhubarb jams or jellies.

Nor did she ever make rhubarb sherbet, which is what I used those four cups after chopping for.

4 cups cubed raw rhubarb; simmer in 1 cup water until tender; it will result in about 2 cups softened rhubarb, especially if you forget about it on the stove until the water is gone like I did.
1 cup sugar boiled with 1 cup water for about five minutes to make a syrup, and add ½ cup corn syrup
¼ cup orange juice
¼ cup pineapple juice
2 tbsp lemon juice
2 egg whites
2 tbsp sugar

Mix the pulp with the syrup and the fruit juices. Chill.

Beat the egg whites, slowing adding the sugar, to soft peaks and fold into the chilled fruit. Freeze for a few hours until it’s half-frozen, then beat with a wooden spoon until smooth and probably better mixed than when you tried to fold egg white into fruit juice.

Freeze completely. Very refreshing, especially on a hot July 4.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2026 04:32 PM (kYmoU)

27 I bought cherries today. I will be canning them for the rest of the day. 20 lbs is a lot of cherries.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 04:33 PM (rbvCR)

28 Excessive consumption of monoterpenes has been know to induce a predilection for wearing Crocs.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 05, 2026 04:34 PM (0sNs1)

29 OMG I HAVE NO GIN.

You're doing the Lord's work, Dildo.

I'll probably get my usual brand, Death's Door. Very botanical. Anybody ever try Drumshanbo Gunpowder Italian Fig and Laurel Gin, in the violet bottle? I'm intrigued.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 04:34 PM (kpS4V)

30 Hampster ham. Tiny but good.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 04:36 PM (Kt19C)

31 I bought cherries today. I will be canning them for the rest of the day. 20 lbs is a lot of cherries.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 04:33 PM


Tell us your life today is the pits, without telling us. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 04:38 PM (0sNs1)

32 While watching an old "Thin Man" movie I heard that the perfect Manhattan has to be shaken to the tempo of a foxtrot.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 04:40 PM (afJtY)

33 Started with, now ending with Blues Brothers, haven't seen this in decades

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:42 PM (Ia/+0)

34 Terpenoids?

Avoid the noid.

Posted by: Domino's at July 05, 2026 04:44 PM (2Ez/1)

35 Anybody ever try Drumshanbo Gunpowder Italian Fig and Laurel Gin, in the violet bottle? I'm intrigued.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 04:34 PM (kpS4V)


I love their bottles! They look great, which of course means that the gin inside is tasty!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 04:44 PM (l4RKn)

36 While watching an old "Thin Man" movie I heard that the perfect Manhattan has to be shaken to the tempo of a foxtrot.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 04:40 PM


"But a dry martini you always shake to waltz time."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 04:44 PM (Wnv9h)

37 RMBS, thank you for remembering the rest of it !

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 04:45 PM (afJtY)

38
I bought cherries today. I will be canning them for the rest of the day. 20 lbs is a lot of cherries.
Posted by: Kindltot

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Where did you get them? I bought Washington! Cherries!!! at the local supermarket and wound up throwing 3/4 of them away, having suffered through the first 1/4 to confirm they really were that flavorless and sour. And I know the difference between tart and sour.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:46 PM (mmrXZ)

39 Comedienne Arynne Wexler on pit bulls and Muslims:

https://tinyurl.com/2sd4df5e

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 04:46 PM (kpS4V)

40 At our Independence Day celebration there were some food trucks. Wife and shared a Peruvian roasted chicken with rice. Peruvian food is excellent, as it has a bit of Japanese influence. I finished it cold from the fridge this morning for breakfast.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 05, 2026 04:46 PM (0aYVJ)

41 I love their bottles! They look great, which of course means that the gin inside is tasty!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 04:44 PM (l4RKn)

Last time I was in a liquor store (several months ago) I saw this new (to me) brand of whiskey that had labels that looked like old pulp superhero/horror movie posters. Very cool.

Bet the stuff tasted like crap but I wanted that bottle. Not at that price point though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 05, 2026 04:48 PM (zZu0s)

42 I bought Washington! Cherries!!! at the local supermarket...

Are "Colorado cherries" something new? I noticed them at the grocery a couple of weeks ago. They just look like regular ol' Bings to me.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 04:49 PM (vTZFs)

43 RMBS, thank you for remembering the rest of it !
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 04:45 PM


It's a favorite.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 04:49 PM (Wnv9h)

44 That's not chicken.

Posted by: The Hampsters at July 05, 2026 04:50 PM (MWfyi)

45 Where did you get them? I bought Washington! Cherries!!! at the local supermarket and wound up throwing 3/4 of them away, having suffered through the first 1/4 to confirm they really were that flavorless and sour. And I know the difference between tart and sour.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

The last cherries I bought from Krogers were sweet and very flavorful.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 04:50 PM (lJ0H4)

46 Started with, now ending with Blues Brothers, haven't seen this in decades

One of my favorite movies, even the poorly-assembled “director’s” cut. When I bought a VCR back in about 1986, it was one of three movies I bought on VHS.

One of the first movies—possibly the first movie—that I saw in a movie theater was Animal House. I’ve had a knee-jerk enjoyment of John Belushi movies ever since.

Not sure why I (or my dad) chose Animal House; it may not have been a choice. The movie might have been a reward for good grades or something, and it could well have been the only movie playing at our small-town theater.

“You don’t need to tell your mom about some of those scenes.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2026 04:50 PM (kYmoU)

47 I tried an 'English Muffin' bread recipe this week, I like it a lot. I live on toast, and this makes a very good toast. Surprisingly good as a sandwich bread also.
Quick, yeast bread, no knead, includes milk, under two hours from jeez I'm out of bread to taking it out of the oven, and recipe scales well to one loaf and proof your yeast. Don't have the link but it was by Taste of Home, or Taste of something or other, and English Muffin bread was the search term.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2026 04:51 PM (sl73Y)

48 Frozen pizza last night. Had to go into work early. Don’t judge.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 04:54 PM (4g5V+)

49 I'm making coconut shrimp for the first time, so we'll see how that goes. It can't be any worse than the wallpaper paste flavor of the premade stuff.


And then no more than two parts tonic to one part gin. The name of the drink starts with "GIN!" It should taste of it.

And for f*ck's sake, use a fresh bottle of tonic. There is nothing worse than flat tonic water in a G&T.


Bottles of FeverTree tonic water come in a 7.5 oz size. That means 3.75 oz of TW with 2 oz of gin for a couple having drinks. It's almost as if they thought this through.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 04:54 PM (Riz8t)

50 Cheers everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:54 PM (Ia/+0)

51 I tried an 'English Muffin' bread recipe this week

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2026 04:51 PM (sl73Y)


Did you use a loaf pan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 04:54 PM (l4RKn)

52 It's almost as if they thought this through.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 04:54 PM (Riz8t)


I appreciate that sort of planning in my consumer products!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 04:56 PM (l4RKn)

53 Last time I was in a liquor store (several months ago) I saw this new (to me) brand of whiskey that had labels that looked like old pulp superhero/horror movie posters. Very cool.

Bet the stuff tasted like crap but I wanted that bottle. Not at that price point though.



I'm sorry, but if a distiller is trying to entice you with the bottle, what does that say about what's inside the bottle?

It's like restaurants in places like Mt. Vernon or Colonial Williamsburg. They're selling an experience, not the food.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 04:56 PM (Riz8t)

54 I'm doing G&T's with diet tonic. No sugars. Better. No discernable taste difference to me.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 04:57 PM (jehhT)

55 Eris she seems nice

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:57 PM (Ia/+0)

56 I'm doing G&T's with diet tonic. No sugars. Better. No discernable taste difference to me.

Check to see if it has real quinine in it. Many TWs now do not.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 04:57 PM (Riz8t)

57 I love their bottles! They look great, which of course means that the gin inside is tasty!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 04:44 PM (l4RKn)
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Hey, I've had a decent run choosing books by their covers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 04:58 PM (kpS4V)

58 Bottles of FeverTree tonic water…

Vodka tonics made with FeverTree and Patriots Creed Pueblo Chile Vodka are very good.

I use the guidelines from a ca. 1966 sliding drink card of the Hotel Las Brisas in Acapulco: 2 oz vodka, a couple of ice cubes, in a highball, filled the rest of the way with tonic water and a lemon peel.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2026 04:58 PM (kYmoU)

59 I love their bottles! They look great, which of course means that the gin inside is tasty!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 04:44 PM (l4RKn)
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Hey, I've had a decent run choosing books by their covers.


Before I started drinking gin cocktails, I thought Bombay Sapphire gin was really blue. I was shocked, SHOCKED! to find that it's just a blue colored bottle.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 04:59 PM (Riz8t)

60 48 Frozen pizza last night. Had to go into work early. Don’t judge.
Posted by: Cow Demon

I threw some leftover rice in a frying pan with some frozen veggies and eggs and teriyaki sauce.

I would never judge you.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 05:00 PM (yEz+x)

61 Was looking through those 70's recipes that need to come back. The only one I wasn't familiar with was the Harvey Wallbanger cake. I had my share of Harvey Wallbanger drinks back in the day but never the cake. I wonder if you ordered a Harvey Wallbanger these days whether the bartender would know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 05:00 PM (lJ0H4)

62 There are some amazingly gorgeous bottles of tequila at local 'candy store'... Don Julio.

Even if I liked tequila, $350 is a bit much for a single bottle.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 05:00 PM (rdVOm)

63 There are some amazingly gorgeous bottles of tequila at local 'candy store'... Don Julio.

Even if I liked tequila, $350 is a bit much for a single bottle.


I've shopped around a bit for tequila, and find that I like El Tesoro Blanco the best for Margaritas. It's about $50 here in NoVa ABC stores.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 05:02 PM (Riz8t)

64 I stay away from tequila, I can't imagine what gin would do.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:02 PM (afJtY)

65 I stay away from tequila, I can't imagine what gin would do.

I used to as well due to some unfortunate experiences as a yute. Surprisingly, it makes a difference when you buy good stuff and drink like an adult.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 05:03 PM (Riz8t)

66 See wine bottle labels often never seen before, figue itsxa marketing gimmick

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 05:04 PM (Ia/+0)

67 I'm sorry, but if a distiller is trying to entice you with the bottle, what does that say about what's inside the bottle?

How else can they entice you? They have to catch the eye before they even have a chance at catching the tongue.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 05:04 PM (vTZFs)

68 I've shopped around a bit for tequila, and find that I like El Tesoro Blanco the best for Margaritas. It's about $50 here in NoVa ABC stores.
Posted by: Archimedes

But-- is it in a beautiful bespoke bottle?

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 05:04 PM (rdVOm)

69 It's 88F and I'm having my afternoon popsicle now. Red, second only to orange.

Posted by: huerfano at July 05, 2026 05:04 PM (VJX5o)

70 Salmon patties are definitely from a bygone era. Before fresh or frozen salmon was available everywhere, salmon came in a can. Mom made them at least once a month and I choked them down with minimal griping or facial contortions.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 05:05 PM (kpS4V)

71 Baby back ribs are being slow grilled. Was supposed to be yesterday but the wife and I both had severe head/chest colds and spent the 4th staring at the lake here at our camp in Maine. The Mainiacs did their usual boat parade and the fireworks over the lake were great. This is in Maine D-2 that went for Trump.

Posted by: Cosda at July 05, 2026 05:06 PM (5Mso3)

72 I drink for quantity.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:06 PM (afJtY)

73 I saw Flat Tonic open for Twisted Sister at The George in George.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 05:07 PM (2WIwB)

74 There’s a small distillery north of Seattle in Edmonds, that makes a fantastic herbal gin. Scratch. Went there for a tasting a couple years ago and walked out with three bottles of different gins. Absolutely marvelous. Especially good ice cold with fresh shucked oysters off the beach.

But then I’d be bragging.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 05:07 PM (yEz+x)

75 I'm having my afternoon popsicle now. Red, second only to orange.

Posted by: huerfano at July 05, 2026 05:04 PM (VJX5o)


No love for blue? Admittedly, red is the best for ices, and blue is the best in candy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 05:08 PM (l4RKn)

76 Back in my days as the family bartender, I took to muddling fresh spearmint that mom had growing on the side of the house. Worked really well in a G&T. Sometimes I'll add a bit of blue curacao for color, and yes, lot's of ice, preferably crushed...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 05:08 PM (nbLIj)

77 I'm doing G&T's with diet tonic. No sugars. Better. No discernable taste difference to me.

Check to see if it has real quinine in it. Many TWs now do not.
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Great Value Diet Tonic Water... from Walmart. Yup. Got it. 99 cents.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 05:09 PM (jehhT)

78 Did you use a loaf pan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo a

Yes, not the biggest, 8.5x4.5 maybe. Did 45 minute rise in pan, then to 375 oven. Tiny touch of baking powder along with regular yeast, rose quickly but then it was in the 90s and my ac broke down.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2026 05:11 PM (sl73Y)

79 "blue is the best in candy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

You can have all my blue Jolly Ranchers then. Bleah. I'll save them up for you.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 05:11 PM (MWfyi)

80 I drink for quantity.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:06 PM (afJtY)

The only thing I'll drink to is excess...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 05:12 PM (nbLIj)

81 Joe Kidd, Salud !

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:13 PM (afJtY)

82 I drank my dinner last night. Feel ok today.. mostly. Heh.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 05:13 PM (rdVOm)

83 Pimm's Number One Cup.

Very nice.

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 05:15 PM (XuXeR)

84 Am liking how ceramic grill does bacon

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 05:17 PM (Ia/+0)

85 But-- is it in a beautiful bespoke bottle?
Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 05:04 PM (rdVOm)

Heh. If I were the kind what made cocktails (but I'm not), and had a home bar, I'd want pretty or interesting bottles. Not to the point that I'd buy crappy liquor, but if it was good stuff AND a lovely bottle, it'd be there.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 05:18 PM (h7ZuX)

86 Joe Kidd, Salud !
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:13 PM (afJtY)

(Raises glass. Tips over..)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 05:19 PM (nbLIj)

87 Went to BJ’s and got the trimmings from country style pork ribs. We grilled them a bit and then into the crock pot. Fall off the bone good and made truly special with my wife’s scotch bonnet sauce.
The Mets are determined to lose to the Braves.

Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2026 05:19 PM (T8bqm)

88 Menu planning for the coming week. I want to do red snapper stuffed with crab.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:19 PM (afJtY)

89 Sad to report my whiskey bottle is mostly empty.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 05:19 PM (RIvkX)

90 How else can they entice you? They have to catch the eye before they even have a chance at catching the tongue.
Posted by: Oddbob

That’s what she said?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 05:19 PM (yEz+x)

91 The use of excessive force in the apprehension of the Blues brothers is approved.

Posted by: Dispatcher at July 05, 2026 05:19 PM (/HDaX)

92 Had a nice Independence Day BBQ at one of my brother's yesterday. One of my nephews made pulled beef (sooo delicious) and some queso (smoky!!) and another made coconut shrimp with a dipping sauce (delish) and an appetizer that was bread with bleu cheese topped with grilled peaches (very good!!) and their mother had made chicken that was absolutely DELICIOUS!! I have to get the recipe for the marinade she had the chicken.

Had a great day but due to the heat we were inside most of the time.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 05, 2026 05:20 PM (3CpER)

93 Having been born in England, instructed in the proper construction of a G&T by my first girlfriend and her parents (both Brit expatriots) I can say I am qualified to say I completely agree with you on the G&T topic.

Posted by: epador at July 05, 2026 05:22 PM (fR77b)

94 Sad to report my whiskey bottle is mostly empty."

*doffs cap in respect

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 05:23 PM (XuXeR)

95 I had a solo Independence Day, so I made sure to eat American: bacon with breakfast eggs, hot dogs and potato salad at lunch, and grilled burgers with chips and fruit for dinner. No BBQ but still quite satisfying. 'Merica!!

Posted by: Fritz at July 05, 2026 05:24 PM (J7jo9)

96
The last cherries I bought from Krogers were sweet and very flavorful.
Posted by: Tuna

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Well hang it. I bought mine at Kroger's (aka Ralphs here in Cali).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 05:26 PM (mmrXZ)

97 If you eat red popsicles the paramedics will think there's blood when you vomit. Don't ask how
I know this.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 05:26 PM (RIvkX)

98 It's still the weekend of the 4th, so tonight's grilled brats and tater salad.

[insert Homer Simpson drool here]

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 05, 2026 05:28 PM (/HDaX)

99 Subliminal processing. RI Red mentioned having a popsicle and I instantly wanted a 50/50 ice cream bar.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:28 PM (afJtY)

100 When I lived in California one of guys I worked with, a Mexican, took a couple of us white boys to a Tequila bar.

It was.... educational. Like Bourbons, there's a huge, nearly infinite variety of tastes, aromas, etc.

He picked about a half dozen for a flight of shots for each of us. And we were eating some really good Mexican snacks. I did not get sick.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 05:29 PM (jehhT)

101 Scoobs, that meal sounds delicious. I will have to remember the Bleu cheese and peaches.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:32 PM (afJtY)

102 my whiskey bottle is mostly empty."

You have only ONE? Harrumph I say. Harrumph.

Posted by: free tibet at July 05, 2026 05:36 PM (1wtUm)

103 > Sad to report my whiskey bottle is mostly empty.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Go to your room. You know what you did.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 05:36 PM (jehhT)

104 I drink for quantity.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05,

I laughed at that. A kindred spirit

Posted by: Pete Bog at July 05, 2026 05:37 PM (Wejm4)

105
The greatest yootoob chicken byproducts ad ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kR17wrlEVKA

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2026 05:37 PM (fdcCZ)

106 Pete Bog, Salud!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:38 PM (afJtY)

107 The Old Cuban is a modern classic cocktail. Riff on a Mojito, with a champagne or prosecco topper.

https://www.liquor.com/recipes/old-cuban/

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 05, 2026 05:39 PM (QaH55)

108 If you eat red popsicles the paramedics will think there's blood when you vomit. Don't ask how
I know this.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 05:26 PM (RIvkX)

And if you eat creamsicles?

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 05:40 PM (iaf7q)

109 > I drink for quantity.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Quantity has a quality all of its own. This is wise.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 05:41 PM (jehhT)

110 And if you eat creamsicles?
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 05:40 PM (iaf7q)
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Some questions should never be asked.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 05:41 PM (RIvkX)

111 101 Scoobs, that meal sounds delicious. I will have to remember the Bleu cheese and peaches.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:32 PM

It was Ben :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 05, 2026 05:41 PM (3CpER)

112 My scotch bottle has 1 small glass left. Have a wish list on my phone of scotch never tried yet.
I do like to try alcohol I never had before

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 05:43 PM (Ia/+0)

113 Subliminal processing. RI Red mentioned having a popsicle and I instantly wanted a 50/50 ice cream bar.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:28 PM (afJtY)

BH, try Helados Mexico! Great coconut, strawberry and mango creamcicles at Shaws. They’re my summer favorite!

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 05:45 PM (iaf7q)

114 Skip, if Balvenie French cask 16 is on your list I recommend it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:45 PM (afJtY)

115
You can have all my blue Jolly Ranchers then. Bleah. I'll save them up for you.
Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 05:11 PM (MWfyi)

Cinnamon/Fire Jolly Ranchers are by far the worst.

But there is a worse thing than a Jolly Rancher:

A Gay Farmer.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 05:46 PM (4g5V+)

116 Scoob, that blue cheese and grilled peach thing sounds great. Imma have to try that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 05:47 PM (Wnv9h)

117 I got a half empty bottle of Crown Royal Apple.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 05:47 PM (4g5V+)

118 RI Red, if you get a chance to try mango chamoy, don't hesitate.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:47 PM (afJtY)

119 RMBS, I bet that would work with pear also.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:49 PM (afJtY)

120 Ben have had that I'm sure

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 05:49 PM (Ia/+0)

121 Scoobs, was that toasted bread or wafers or what?
Perhaps you could sneak us the recipe!

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 05:50 PM (iaf7q)

122 Glen Garioch
Benromach 12
Deanston
Cambletown
Craiggellachie

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 05:50 PM (Ia/+0)

123 I got a half empty bottle of Crown Royal Apple.

That's incriminating, isn't it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 05:51 PM (u/oMr)

124 Skip, Glen Fodhry.

I was gifted a bottle by a friend and it is wonderful.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:52 PM (afJtY)

125 Mango Chamoy. BH, would you say it mixes best with rum, gin or vodka?
This is an alcohol thread, right?

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 05:53 PM (iaf7q)

126 Skip ,sorry that was Glen Fohdry.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:53 PM (afJtY)

127 Any recipe suggestions for red snapper ?

Posted by: Pete Bog at July 05, 2026 05:54 PM (Wejm4)

128 RI Red, a rum mango chamoy shake would set the world right.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:55 PM (afJtY)

129 Pete Bog, I plan on stuffing one with crab.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:56 PM (afJtY)

130 Ben adding to my list

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 05:57 PM (Ia/+0)

131 The greatest yootoob chicken byproducts ad ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kR17wrlEVKA

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2026 05:37 PM


I was at walmart the other day and noticed some canned dog food on sale. One of the cases said it was "beef". I looked at the ingredients and beef byproducts was the 4th ingredient. Chicken and chicken by products were the first two listed ingredients followed by chicken stock.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 05, 2026 05:57 PM (0N4FZ)

132 I was at walmart the other day and noticed some canned dog food on sale. One of the cases said it was "beef". I looked at the ingredients and beef byproducts was the 4th ingredient. Chicken and chicken by products were the first two listed ingredients followed by chicken stock.

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See? The quote marks were the tell.

I used to work in a restaurant that serve "clam" chowder. Buyer beware.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 05:59 PM (6/7Fs)

133 RMBS, I bet that would work with pear also.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:49 PM

Oh, absolutely!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 06:00 PM (Wnv9h)

134 When I die, if I get to Heaven I expect it to be like Ben Had’s kitchen.
Of course, if it’s her kitchen table, I’ll have gone the other direction.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 06:01 PM (iaf7q)

135 RMBS, with a very light touch of nutmeg or no?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:02 PM (afJtY)

136 121 Perhaps you could sneak us the recipe!

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 05:50 PM

I texted my nephew for it. Some of the bread was toasted, some wasn't.

It was pretty simple, but the grilled peaches is what made it stand out.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 05, 2026 06:02 PM (3CpER)

137 Of course, if it’s her kitchen table, I’ll have gone the other direction.
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 06:01 PM (iaf7q)

*snort

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 06:03 PM (h7ZuX)

138 RMBS - Did you ever eat at Kitty's Restaurant in North Reading?
It has been there for 83+ years. At least one of the waitresses has worked there for 50 years. Great place! Great prices! Lots of food and menu choices. Never been disappointed.

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at July 05, 2026 06:07 PM (/enuJ)

139 Geeze, it's only denutting.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:07 PM (afJtY)

140 You make it sound like it’s just deglazing!

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 06:09 PM (iaf7q)

141
Norway defeats Brazil, 2-1. Lots of shots of crying Brazilian children. Cry, little ones, cry.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 06:10 PM (O0L8i)

142 Yesterday, had common 4th eats. Hot dogs,etc. Shopping for potato chips, I bought a bag of Lays. Noted on the package it said "Made with real potatoes". How good does it get?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 06:11 PM (XeU6L)

143 142 Yesterday, had common 4th eats. Hot dogs,etc. Shopping for potato chips, I bought a bag of Lays. Noted on the package it said "Made with real potatoes". How good does it get?

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Lays stole Brian Stelter's tagline.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 06:12 PM (6/7Fs)

144 I bought a bag of Lays. Noted on the package it said "Made with real potatoes". How good does it get?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 06:11 PM (XeU6L)

Made WITH....

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 06:14 PM (h7ZuX)

145 Lots of shots of crying Brazilian children. "

How many is a Brazilian?

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 06:15 PM (cGjQu)

146 RMBS, with a very light touch of nutmeg or no?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:02 PM

I could see that. Maybe some coarsely cracked black pepper, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 06:15 PM (Wnv9h)

147 RMBS, oh yes!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:16 PM (afJtY)

148 RMBS - Did you ever eat at Kitty's Restaurant in North Reading?
It has been there for 83+ years. At least one of the waitresses has worked there for 50 years. Great place! Great prices! Lots of food and menu choices. Never been disappointed.
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at July 05, 2026 06:07 PM

I haven't. It's only a couple miles from me, though. I think the parents went there once.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 06:17 PM (Wnv9h)

149 Aren't ingredients listed in order of amount? Like, if the very first thing is "bug shit" your package of whatever is mostly "bug shit."

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 06:18 PM (jehhT)

150 Martini Farmer, yes.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 06:19 PM (h7ZuX)

151 For a great G&T, I recommend a premium tonic like fever tree or Q. You might think at first they aren’t sweet enough or not enough fizz. I did. But after a few mixed with these brands, you’ll never go back.

By contrast, it’s not worth it to use expensive gin. I wouldn’t use Captain Gay’s Anal Squab gin, but any decent gin will be fine. I use Gordon’s.

Trust The Blade.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:19 PM (FyPhv)

152 People used to send in pics of their home bars. I miss those. I just know some of you have speakeasies and tiki bars, so share.

My current mixologist area is in the garage, so no lavish photo spreads from me.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 06:24 PM (kpS4V)

153 Another tip is to store your gin for g&t in the freezer. That way, the drink will stay colder longer, and the ice won’t melt quickly and turn your drink into a soggy waterlogged mess.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:26 PM (FyPhv)

154 I used to work in a restaurant that serve "clam" chowder. Buyer beware.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 05:59 PM (6/7Fs)


"Scallops" too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 06:28 PM (l4RKn)

155 *hic*

HUMA!!!

MOAR GIN!!!

Posted by: Hillary! Dark Horse Candidate 2028 at July 05, 2026 06:28 PM (6/7Fs)

156 Those cupcakes are adorable. We are having leftovers from last night - grilled Cornish game hen, watermelon, there are a few hamburgers left, grilled summer squash and an arugula salad.

This is a good thing because I just got stung by a wasp on my little toe because of course I did and it hurts like the dickens. Have ice in it currently.

Posted by: Piper at July 05, 2026 06:29 PM (Wmg4n)

157 Menu planning for the coming week. I want to do red snapper stuffed with crab.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 05:19 PM (afJtY)

Thursday. I can be there Thursday.

This Sunday's steak is a prime T-Bone, paired with a 2021 Silver Linings cabernet. Other than a few exceptional zinfandels, I'm beginning to think cabs really own this space.

Of course, five years in the bottle converts most of the bottled sugar, and produces a drier finish than vintner intended for his wider audience. This is just about at its peak, and I look forward to pairing the remainder with my Avo Syncro toro about an hour hence. For now, let us take a moment to contemplate what just happened here. Prime steak...California cabernet...'Merica...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 06:30 PM (nbLIj)

158 Captain Gay’s Anal Squab gin

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:19 PM (FyPhv)

I bet that is delivered in a decorative bottle!

Posted by: Pete Bog at July 05, 2026 06:32 PM (Wejm4)

159 Shouldn’t all clear alcohol be stored in the freezer?
I mean, everything except rubbing alcohol.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 06:32 PM (WcJqs)

160 "Another tip is to store your gin for g&t in the freezer."
***********
A good idea, too, if you are drinking your G&T in some overseas sh_thole were the ice can give you the runs for a week.

Posted by: Cosda at July 05, 2026 06:33 PM (5Mso3)

161 I used to work in a restaurant that serve "clam" chowder. Buyer beware.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 05:59 PM (6/7Fs)
——

High end booze too. That Mac 21 behind the bar might be filled with Mac 15. Old sleazy bar trick.

Another sleazy trick is to substitute cheap house booze whenever you order a “call” brand in a mixed drink. So if you order Appleton and coke, you would get some basic cheap rum.

Caveat emptor.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:34 PM (FyPhv)

162 Captain Gay’s Anal Squab gin

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:19 PM (FyPhv)

I bet that is delivered in a decorative bottle!
Posted by: Pete Bog at July 05, 2026 06:32 PM (Wejm4)
——

‘Yes, the bottle is FABULOUS’

— James Talacreepo

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:35 PM (FyPhv)

163 "Scallops" too.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 06:28 PM


We're right here you know.

Posted by: A skate at July 05, 2026 06:37 PM (Wnv9h)

164 Caveat emptor.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:34 PM (FyPhv)

It's good that I do most of my eating and drinking at home. If it's substandard, it's my own damned fault.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 06:37 PM (h7ZuX)

165 Dash, Amen.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:39 PM (afJtY)

166 Cherries vary in flavor, often to do with how ripe they were when picked, Blonde Morticia. You might have gotten an early batch that got ripe but not mature.
I think they are picking there now, you might try getting another bag and seeing if the later pick is better for you.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 06:40 PM (rbvCR)

167 Made WITH....
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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A reasonable observation. Checked label; Ingredients: Canola oil, potatoes, salt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 06:41 PM (XeU6L)

168 30 Popular Recipes of the 1970s That Deserve a Comeback

"Dried beef, also known as chipped beef, was created in 1910 and became a popular ingredient among soldiers during WWII. Nostalgia kept the ingredient in rotation, and chipped beef is still beloved in casseroles and on toast today. "


Needs some Toast to put in on for "Shit on a Shingle", as Dad said it was called in the Army...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 06:41 PM (l3cgK)

169 Kindltot, there is always the option of throwing those cherries in a bottle of vodka.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:41 PM (afJtY)

170 Burgers, con on the cob, pasta salad, and we had 2 US Army doctors from Fort Bliss in for their 3 days off.
Elk and ground beef burgers were great. I'll skip Borden's American cheese from now on though.
And then we watched about 25 fire work displays from the deck roof.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 05, 2026 06:41 PM (NnhvP)

171
Needs some Toast to put in on for "Shit on a Shingle", as Dad said it was called in the Army...

Posted by: jim
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SOS. Standard fare in my time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 06:42 PM (XeU6L)

172 Jr. harvested lots of “crab meat” up in the Bering Sea.

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 06:42 PM (WcJqs)

173 This time of the year is perfect to make limoncello and peachello.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:42 PM (afJtY)

174 171
Needs some Toast to put in on for "Shit on a Shingle", as Dad said it was called in the Army...

Posted by: jim
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SOS. Standard fare in my time.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 06:42 PM (XeU6L)

Apparently since about 1910. LOL. It was in the 1940's when Dad served in WWII (not eleven)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 06:44 PM (l3cgK)

175 Unauthorized immigrant worker flows accounted for about 30% of employment growth, roughly 30% of home-price growth, and about 20% of rent growth in the average metropolitan area between March 2021 and March 2024.

Then add in 24% Bidenflation.

And people wonder why things seem to be 50% moar expensive.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 06:45 PM (/+uur)

176 This time of the year is perfect to make limoncello and peachello.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:42 PM (afJtY)

“Knock, knock, knocking on Heaven’s Door.”

Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 06:45 PM (WcJqs)

177 It can be martini time.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 06:45 PM (Wnv9h)

178 176 This time of the year is perfect to make limoncello and peachello.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:42 PM (afJtY)

“Knock, knock, knocking on Heaven’s Door.”
Posted by: RI Red at July 05, 2026 06:45 PM (WcJqs)

And to think I just got my radishcello perfected and now erybody wants sweet fruits!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 06:47 PM (/+uur)

179 105
The greatest yootoob chicken byproducts ad ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kR17wrlEVKA

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2026 05:37 PM (fdcCZ)

Birds do not have anuses/ani...they have cloaca/cloacae. Use the correct terminology, EweToob Dude...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 06:48 PM (l3cgK)

180 I wonder if you ordered a Harvey Wallbanger these days whether the bartender would know what you're talking about.
Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 05:00 PM (lJ0H4)

Many of the more classy joints still keep that tall bottle of Galliano around...

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 05, 2026 06:48 PM (bdHbP)

181 And to think I just got my radishcello perfected and now erybody wants sweet fruits!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 06:47 PM (/+uur)

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I know, right?

Posted by: Garlicello at July 05, 2026 06:48 PM (6/7Fs)

182 Peachello time is shorter because I only use white peaches.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:48 PM (afJtY)

183 Peachello time is shorter because I only use white peaches.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:48 PM


I love white peaches. They make a great fruit salsa to pair with grilled chicken or pork.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 06:50 PM (Wnv9h)

184 179 105
The greatest yootoob chicken byproducts ad ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kR17wrlEVKA

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2026 05:37 PM (fdcCZ)

Birds do not have anuses/ani...they have cloaca/cloacae. Use the correct terminology, EweToob Dude...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 06:48 PM (l3cgK)

Also...I love eating gizzards, livers and (Chinese-style) chickens feet...There's a whole market out there for those, but perhaps he gets more bang for his buck selling them as doggie treats.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 06:51 PM (l3cgK)

185 183 Peachello time is shorter because I only use white peaches.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:48 PM

I love white peaches. They make a great fruit salsa to pair with grilled chicken or pork.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 06:50 PM (Wnv9h)

Raciist!!!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 06:51 PM (l3cgK)

186 High end booze too. That Mac 21 behind the bar might be filled with Mac 15. Old sleazy bar trick.

Another sleazy trick is to substitute cheap house booze whenever you order a “call” brand in a mixed drink. So if you order Appleton and coke, you would get some basic cheap rum.

Caveat emptor.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:34 PM


I don't know about other states but the TABC here in Texas will cancel your liquor license with prejudice if they catch you doing that.


They have undercover people who go around checking for that specific thing along with over pouring, not charging for drinks to get better tips, underage sales and all sorts of bad things that less than scrupulous bars try and pull. They also check drink prices to match with the data from your liquor distributor to make sure you are paying your required taxes as well.


The only way I know they were there other than getting slapped with a fine is I get a letter in the mail asking me to rate the latest visit by the TABC enforcement division.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 05, 2026 06:51 PM (0N4FZ)

187 RMBS, white peach shortcake with creme fraische too.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:52 PM (afJtY)

188 I love white peaches"

"Wanna shake your tree..."

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 06:53 PM (cGjQu)

189 The first time I had SOS was as a scout on an army base and I thought those guys were so lucky to have as much of that as they wanted.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 06:53 PM (RIvkX)

190 Biden illegal alien (from Haiti) kills Pennsylvania state trooper in horrific crash.

Massachusetts gave him truck driving permit.

Do not think they do NOT hate you.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 06:55 PM (/+uur)

191 Once you've tasted white you'll never go back to yellow.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:55 PM (afJtY)

192 Shit on a shingle is better than dick on a brick

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:56 PM (FyPhv)

193 191 Once you've tasted white you'll never go back to yellow.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:55 PM (afJtY)

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*fistbump*

Posted by: Hunter Biden at July 05, 2026 06:56 PM (6/7Fs)

194 187 RMBS, white peach shortcake with creme fraische too.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:52 PM (afJtY)

Damn. That sounds divine.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 06:56 PM (h7ZuX)

195 TABC here in Texas will cancel your liquor license"

Do not mess with The Texas Association of Basketball Coaches!

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 06:57 PM (cGjQu)

196 Once you've tasted white you'll never go back to yellow"

Ahem.

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 06:57 PM (cGjQu)

197 Just finished a late lunch at the golf course. When they have it, their halibut and chips are the best in the city! Today they had some. Yum!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 06:58 PM (2WIwB)

198 Dash , it is. Works with strawberry and blueberry too.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:58 PM (afJtY)

199 RMBS, white peach shortcake with creme fraische too.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:52 PM


That sounds really good.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 05, 2026 06:58 PM (Wnv9h)

200 196 Once you've tasted white you'll never go back to yellow"

Ahem.
Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 06:57 PM (cGjQu)


The boys at school said it's all pink on the inside.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 06:59 PM (h7ZuX)

201 192 Shit on a shingle is better than dick on a brick

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 05, 2026 06:56 PM (FyPhv)

I'll call your dick on a brick and raise you a spotted dick...

Posted by: Don Lemon at July 05, 2026 06:59 PM (l3cgK)

202 198 Dash , it is. Works with strawberry and blueberry too.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:58 PM (afJtY)

Really, any fruit and shortcake and creme freche is primo.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (h7ZuX)

203 Nood

Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (T8bqm)

204 Nood. Gubs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (0sNs1)

205 202 198 Dash , it is. Works with strawberry and blueberry too.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 06:58 PM (afJtY)

Really, any fruit and shortcake and creme freche is primo.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 07:00 PM (h7ZuX)

Except Tomatoes...Avocado may work (the Vietnamese places around here make a milkshake with avocados)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (l3cgK)

206 Ezra 7 - good stuff! You must have good friends.

Posted by: Doof at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (CKssp)

207 Except Tomatoes...Avocado may work (the Vietnamese places around here make a milkshake with avocados)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (l3cgK)

Those are FINO*

Fruit In Name Only

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 07:02 PM (h7ZuX)

208 207 Except Tomatoes...Avocado may work (the Vietnamese places around here make a milkshake with avocados)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 07:01 PM (l3cgK)

Those are FINO*

Fruit In Name Only

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 07:02 PM (h7ZuX)

Hey, if you can put zucchini and carrots into a cake...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM (l3cgK)

209 Thank you for the food thread,CBD. Always appreciated.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM (afJtY)

210 Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 05:50 PM (Ia/+0)

________________________

Jura 18 --- ( made on the Isle of Jura, which is a tiny island just off the coast of Scotland)

They use White Oak barrels that they get from US Whiskey distillers, that have aged them with bourbon

Posted by: Orson at July 05, 2026 07:03 PM (dIske)

211 Heat is better than ice for wasp stings

Posted by: Buck at July 05, 2026 07:10 PM (z6ONu)

212 $#¡† I didn't see this until now.

Some years ago I visited a bar called The Gin Corner in Rome. The bartender there made the best G&T I've ever had. Big stemmed glass (it's Europe), one large ice cube (melts slowly and won't dilute the drink), a few juniper berries crushed with the flat of your knife, oil from a lemon peel (I'm more traditional so I use a squeeze of lime, but not dropping the wedge in: the bitterness of the pith fights with the bitterness of the tonic), and a bottle of basic Schweppes.

Making it this way lets the flavors of the gin shine through, so if you want something citrus-forward or juniper-forward, or more spicy, choose a gin to taste.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at July 05, 2026 08:41 PM (Ws2ua)

213 Right now I'm drinking Spirit of York, from Toronto. Juniper-forward, and a fantastic bottle for Aetius451AD. Spiral glass: I gave a couple of bottles to my barber and he painted them like a barber pole: one of them now resides in a place of honour (it's Canada) at the distillery.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at July 05, 2026 08:41 PM (Ws2ua)

214 Got here late. Fun stuff.
I can't believe you are mocking a cheeseball.


; )

Posted by: m at July 06, 2026 03:24 AM (6wpGE)

First World Problems...

ID 2026.jpg

If that is a problem, I don't want a solution!

And Open Thread...

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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1 1

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 02:02 PM (Ia/+0)

2 TRUTH!

Posted by: Beverly at July 05, 2026 02:03 PM (lC5WC)

3 It is better

Posted by: Abby Normal at July 05, 2026 02:03 PM (jrgJz)

4 LOL they are freaking out that Trump made a call to FIFA President about the Red Card on the US player and they suspended the red card 1 game suspension, LOL

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 05, 2026 02:03 PM (ubCxQ)

5
My cat had a problem, but he's over it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 02:05 PM (mmrXZ)

6 Been working on my 1st WP scrap pile, have to get rid of it asap but truck again is dead in water. Hopefully not a serious problem

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 02:05 PM (Ia/+0)

7
LOL they are freaking out that Trump made a call to FIFA President about the Red Card on the US player and they suspended the red card 1 game suspension, LOL
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

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lol really? We get that super player with the funny name in Monday's game then?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 02:06 PM (mmrXZ)

8 Good morning, God bless America, God bless us all.

Winning, it's not a joke anymore.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 02:06 PM (vC80E)

9 FWP: Balogun got a wildly unfair red card that would cause him to miss the Belgian game.

FWS: Point out the FIFA hyocrisy about Messi and Ronaldo (who got his Red Card suspended, so he wouldn't miss the World Cup) and get FIFA to suspend Balogun's card so he can play tomorrow.

Go USA soccer!

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2026 02:08 PM (tOcjL)

10 7
LOL they are freaking out that Trump made a call to FIFA President about the Red Card on the US player and they suspended the red card 1 game suspension, LOL
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

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lol really? We get that super player with the funny name in Monday's game then?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 02:06 PM (mmrXZ)

Yes. Balogun, the 1st real goal scorer we've ever had, can and probably will play.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2026 02:09 PM (tOcjL)

11 6 Been working on my 1st WP scrap pile, have to get rid of it asap but truck again is dead in water. Hopefully not a serious problem

Posted by: Skip
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That truck's become problematic. Glad you made it home with the lead. At least it did that for you.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 02:09 PM (vC80E)

12
lol really? We get that super player with the funny name in Monday's game then?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 02:06 PM (mmrXZ)

Yes he can play on Monday and It's being reported that Trump did call the FIFA President about the Red Card.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 05, 2026 02:11 PM (ubCxQ)

13 The Lead pile needs to go too some day.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 02:12 PM (Ia/+0)

14 Its possible the emergency brake went, hope it is easy to fix

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 02:13 PM (Ia/+0)

15 My FWP yesterday was too much interesting content about ID250.

Here's a neat video of David Muir (and cameraman) climbing up the Statue of Liberty to the crown and torch:

https://tinyurl.com/mjn65ycb

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 02:14 PM (kpS4V)

16 LOL they are freaking out that Trump made a call to FIFA President about the Red Card on the US player and they suspended the red card 1 game suspension, LOL"

So, the walls are falling off?

Heh

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 02:14 PM (cGjQu)

17 Its possible the emergency brake went, hope it is easy to fix"

Just push your feet thru the floor...

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 02:15 PM (cGjQu)

18 I am all lathered up because there is mustard and ketchup I can't get out of the squeeze bottle after they hit "empty." Yes, I had this happen yesterday.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 05, 2026 02:15 PM (obVEo)

19 Freedom is certainly the left's FWP. They hate it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 02:15 PM (jehhT)

20 The immortal speech of Patrick Henry, March of 1775:

https://tinyurl.com/yc49zshs

Posted by: Beverly at July 05, 2026 02:16 PM (reMys)

21 The same company that originally put the “American flag blue” sealant down on the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool will do the repair work, Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum revealed.
--

First thing up on the news feed. The most important thing in America, the world. It's a miracle that so many see their way through the crap into what is valuable and not.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 02:16 PM (vC80E)

22 That was the most spectacular fw show I've ever seen- couldn't look away.

Not surprising considering the circumstances, but wow.

Posted by: burrrton at July 05, 2026 02:17 PM (kah0Z)

23 I had a good FWP to share but I forgot it so maybe it wasn't such a big deal anyway.

Posted by: Savage Henry at July 05, 2026 02:19 PM (ZxPkt)

24 4 LOL they are freaking out that Trump made a call to FIFA President about the Red Card on the US player and they suspended the red card 1 game suspension, LOL
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 05, 2026 02:03 PM (ubCxQ)

Yeah, but no one had ever DARE try to figure out when a soccer game ends. ONLY the officials are allowed to know that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 02:20 PM (4g5V+)

25 Happy British tourist in america love the Fourth of July

https://shorturl.at/gu0eq

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2026 02:21 PM (E1om2)

26 Problem:

18 I am all lathered up because there is mustard and ketchup I can't get out of the squeeze bottle after they hit "empty." Yes, I had this happen yesterday.

Solution: Purchase an industrial centrifuge capable of spinning those bottles.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 02:21 PM (Riz8t)

27 Was at a red light, had to back up and wasn't going to go, then forward it seemed brake was on. Pulled into dealer and told problem, went out to start it up and wouldn't go forward or reverse.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 02:21 PM (Ia/+0)

28 First thing up on the news feed. The most important thing in America, the world."

Hey, we've tried everything!

/media

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 02:21 PM (cGjQu)

29 21 The same company that originally put the “American flag blue” sealant down on the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool will do the repair work, Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum revealed.
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First thing up on the news feed. The most important thing in America, the world. It's a miracle that so many see their way through the crap into what is valuable and not.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

************

Did they report that American Liberals were deliberately destroying the reflecting pool immediately after the repairs? That would seem to be an important part of the story. Usually people who value our national monuments aren't out defacing and destroying them in an effort to undo acts of restoration.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 02:21 PM (X+xvk)

30 17 Its possible the emergency brake went, hope it is easy to fix"

Just push your feet thru the floor...

Posted by: man
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The way they rig vehicles today (safety items) wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't wired to an automatic shut down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 02:21 PM (vC80E)

31 I was at a friend's place last night, and while the video I've seen this morning of the professional fireworks displays were certainly impressive, I enjoyed the private efforts of his neighbors more. It seemed every 7th or 8th house was launching stuff from their driveway, and they had all the variety of the pros. Part of the fun was running around the yard with his kids to get the best vantage point on whichever direction they were currently being launched from.

It all started a little after 8:00, and was still going at 11:15 when I left for home.

Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2026 02:22 PM (vSvIl)

32 I miss fireworks on 4th of July.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 02:25 PM (RIvkX)

33 Yeah, but no one had ever DARE try to figure out when a soccer game ends. ONLY the officials are allowed to know that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 02:20 PM (4g5V+)

The Europoors are good and mad that soccer has 4 quarters now and they are going to experiment with the Clock here in US where the Stadium clock will keep the official time not the ref

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 05, 2026 02:26 PM (ubCxQ)

34 I love First World Problems because it means that I live in the First World.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 05, 2026 02:26 PM (/k3in)

35 The kids are alright.

>>https://tinyurl.com/2rdvb7du

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 02:27 PM (viF8m)

36 How do we celebrate 250 years here in central Oklahoma?

With 125 mph straight line winds and what appears for all the world like a tornado that did not touch down. Large,, mature trees uprooted all over my neighborhood. Still no power.

Posted by: Charlie Kelly at July 05, 2026 02:27 PM (l26NL)

37 FWP: Day 3 without water. Maybe the well pump, maybe the the storage tank. Hope to get repair service out tomorrow.

Maybe I'll just hike down to the river with my canteen and a basket full of clothes to pound on the rocks

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2026 02:27 PM (E1om2)

38 My first world problem is I could have been first but I was eating a cheeseburger.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 02:28 PM (MWfyi)

39
Dear Leftists and Eurotrash,

Suck it.

America, hell, yeah!

Yours sincerely.
Normal Americans

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 02:29 PM (O0L8i)

40 Fireworks displays were great in Eromeroland. Mrs. E said ‘it’s like a war’. But far as I know we had no casualties.

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2026 02:29 PM (bEwGx)

41 I read the content.

Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at July 05, 2026 02:29 PM (zdQuL)

42 Current FWP consists of having to drive 2.5 hours tomorrow to see fireflies. Been looking forward to seeing my first FF swarm since 2006. Apparently, my area in Florida, replete with an array of bugs that bite, and/or otherwise annoy due to their sheer numbers (lookin' atchoo, Junebug!), does not include fireflies.

I've been assured that they exist in good numbers at the state park in which I've reserved a campsite. If it pans out, this could become a regular pilgrimage..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 02:29 PM (nbLIj)

43 Pulled into dealer and told problem, went out to start it up and wouldn't go forward or reverse.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 02:21 PM
******
Hey. I'm sitting right here.

Posted by: Bigger hammer at July 05, 2026 02:30 PM (2Ez/1)

44 the best vantage point on whichever direction they were currently being launched from."

That was us last night! Simply incredible, and the big "official" displays lit the horizons. Went for a walk just after sunrise, and could still smell the freedom...

News had footage of cars stopped on the interstate to watch.

I'm glad to have seen both the 200th and 250th.

Long may she wave!

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 02:30 PM (cGjQu)

45
Day 3 without water. Maybe the well pump, maybe the the storage tank. Hope to get repair service out tomorrow.

_____________

Sometimes ants get into the switch box. Cut the breaker, open the switch box and get a brush to clean the contacts. That frequently works for me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 02:31 PM (O0L8i)

46 Chyrons. They tell you what you'd see if the chyron wasn't in the way. Guy was showing how best to crack open a cooked lobster. Of course switch to video! Return to demonstration obscured by chyrons.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 02:32 PM (Kt19C)

47 >Guy was showing how best to crack open a cooked lobster.
......
Like I said. Sitting right here.

Posted by: Bigger hammer at July 05, 2026 02:34 PM (2Ez/1)

48 It was pretty quiet last night compared to other years. I mean there were fireworks and all, just not a huge amount. Our neighborhood did most their stuff on the 3rd for some reason.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2026 02:35 PM (3uBP9)

49 Sometimes ants get into the switch box. Cut the breaker, open the switch box and get a brush to clean the contacts. That frequently works for me.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Ditto, sometimes just separating the contacts is enough.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 05, 2026 02:36 PM (NnhvP)

50 Philadelphia had a Ben Franklin lookalike contest and it was won by a black woman. I'm not making that up and you probably didn't think I was.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 02:36 PM (MWfyi)

51 Fireworks in Mamdani's NY. Compare and contrast:

https://tinyurl.com/ybkf828s

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:38 PM (y1wyK)

52 I see X requires login to view now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2026 02:38 PM (Cqx++)

53 It was pretty quiet last night compared to other years. I mean there were fireworks and all, just not a huge amount. Our neighborhood did most their stuff on the 3rd for some reason.
Posted by: banana Dream

Noted the private displays were muted in comparison to the year the PTB stopped all public displays.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 05, 2026 02:38 PM (NnhvP)

54 I miss fireworks on 4th of July.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 02:25 PM (RIvkX)

The People's Republic of San Francisco doesn't have an official (predominantly red) display?! What are they, Buffalo, NY?

Posted by: pookysgirl, wrestling Lil Pooky for the keyboard at July 05, 2026 02:39 PM (Wt5PA)

55 I've been using xcancel if I really want to see a X video but most of the time I don't even bother.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 02:39 PM (MWfyi)

56 How do we celebrate 250 years here in central Oklahoma?

With 125 mph straight line winds and what appears for all the world like a tornado that did not touch down. Large,, mature trees uprooted all over my neighborhood. Still no power.
Posted by: Charlie Kelly

We were a little north of the destruction zone. Started shooting fireworks early to beat the storm. We hadn't quite exhausted our ample supply when the wind arrived suddenly and ferociously. Then it was a mad scramble to clean up and drag water buckets and trash cans back to the house. It was a good time.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 05, 2026 02:39 PM (6v6cQ)

57 I see X requires login to view now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2026 02:38 PM (Cqx++)

I use xcancel to bypass the login. Add "cancel" to make it xcancel dot com

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 02:40 PM (pJK38)

58 Here's a First World opportunity if you need a job:

"NASA has opened recruitment for the Moon and Mars Exploration Analog (MMEA), a yearlong simulated deep space mission at Johnson Space Center, set to begin no earlier than August 2027.

The mission will take place inside two habitats, with a four-person crew spending twelve months experiencing nearly everything a real deep space mission could throw at people, minus the actual vacuum of space, of course."

https://tinyurl.com/yjjff58a

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 02:41 PM (kpS4V)

59 "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend . Director says 1776 is already in the works! So, I guess it beat out the opening weekend for "Supergirl", eh? 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 02:41 PM (looXz)

60
Ditto, sometimes just separating the contacts is enough.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 05, 2026 02:36 PM (NnhvP)

____________

Anything beyond that and I have to call in the pros. But there's stuff that can go wrong without it being the well pump. None of which is wildly expensive to fix.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 02:41 PM (O0L8i)

61 The new issue of $100 US notes will have DJT's signature on the bottom left corner, just above Bessent's.

The new commemorative US Passport will come in a nifty box with a certificate. DJT's image will be on the facing page of the book.

Winning!

Posted by: mrp at July 05, 2026 02:42 PM (rj6Yv)

62 LOL they are freaking out that Trump made a call to FIFA President about the Red Card on the US player and they suspended the red card 1 game suspension, LOL
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 05, 2026 02:03 PM (ubCxQ)


'Murica!!!!

*screech of Bald Eagle*

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 05, 2026 02:42 PM (ksbjf)

63 >>> Chyrons. They tell you what you'd see if the chyron wasn't in the way. Guy was showing how best to crack open a cooked lobster. Of course switch to video! Return to demonstration obscured by chyrons.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 02:32 PM (Kt19C)


When they changed the Chyrons from fat shiny one eyed robots to thirst traps I knew BSG was cooked.

Posted by: banana Dream - Batterstar Garactica at July 05, 2026 02:42 PM (3uBP9)

64 My FWP: Amazon order something directly from the OEM.

It arrives blatantly in 'used' condition, missing parts.

Get a return label, take it to UPS, and replacement arrives next day, same seller:

Same problem (not the same box, but same problem).

Return system will not let me do another replacement so...

Call Amazon, get a refund, they say "keep or toss it, and next time try a different seller".

Next try arrives tomorrow. If it's not missing all of the key parts, I should at least be able to combine packages to get one working device.

I think I have no choice at this point but to start my own shipping company and online store and go through 30 years of business growth, just to get the thing I wanted.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 05, 2026 02:42 PM (GZpMX)

65
It was no noisier or longer last night here at Schloss Hadrian than any other Glorious Fourth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 02:43 PM (O0L8i)

66 Apparently, Young Ben Franklin was a woman of color.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 02:44 PM (MWfyi)

67 Apparently, Young Ben Franklin was a woman of color.

Then old white males stole him.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 02:45 PM (vTZFs)

68 My FWP is that the belt on my Oreck vacuum cleaner broke while I was vacuuming but not before making my bedroom smell like burnt rubber. Yuck.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 02:46 PM (lJ0H4)

69 48 It was pretty quiet last night compared ...
My windows were rattling.
My neighborhood is becoming gentryfied in a very American way.
It started, years ago, as an upper middle class area then the folks moved up or stayed and died leaving the homes to become rentals. Now, they are being sold to, hold on, upwardly mobile Mexicans.

They are very American of Mexican descent and very upwardly mobile. Fixin' up the neighborhood. Very interesting.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 02:46 PM (vC80E)

70 "Day 3 without water. Maybe the well pump, maybe the the storage tank. Hope to get repair service out tomorrow."

We had a well when I was a kid. The control box suddenly stopped working. Dad took it to the repair shop (20 miles away) and they tested it and found no problem. Dad returns, hangs the box back onto the pump house wall, and it doesn't work. Back to the shop. Again, they can't find anything wrong with the box. Dad is getting a bit annoyed.

Turned out there was a worn relay in the box. It would work when the box was laid on its back on the test bench, and would stop working when the box was stood up vertical when hung on the wall.

Just something to think about.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (CSQvy)

71 The "official" fireworks around here were on Friday the 3rd. I think it was because the local governments closed for the day since the 4th was on Saturday. This provided some level of legitimacy for closing on what was a non-holiday.

The homeowners around us did a pretty good job last night... even though a thunderstorm rolled through.

Figure there will be more tonight.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (jehhT)

72 Just push your feet thru the floor...
Posted by: man
---------
[recollects lyric from Perry Como, 'Magic Moments']

The way that we cheered
Whenever our team was scoring a touchdown
The time that the floor fell out of my car
When I put the clutch down

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (XeU6L)

73 I think I have no choice at this point but to start my own shipping company and online store and go through 30 years of business growth, just to get the thing I wanted.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 05, 2026 02:42 PM (GZpMX)
-

Or simply do what CBD would do - burn Amazon down.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (y1wyK)

74 > "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend.
****

Is that a lot?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (2Ez/1)

75 >>> I think I have no choice at this point but to start my own shipping company and online store and go through 30 years of business growth, just to get the thing I wanted.
Posted by: RandomDave at July 05, 2026 02:42 PM (GZpMX)


I got a ninja food processor used off amazon and one of the lids to a processing bowl had a tab broken off that prevented a stupid safety feature on the motor from engaging. I got another set on ebay that had the exact same issue. I got a refund and ebay just said to keep it. I eventually just whipped out a pin drill and used my modelling skiils to fashion new tabs with steel pin reinforcement and fixed all the lids to work good as new.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2026 02:48 PM (3uBP9)

76 yearlong simulated deep space mission at Johnson Space Center, set to begin no earlier than August 2027."

So Mars, Houston... yeah, they're the same.

Except for temperature. Slightly warmer in Houston.

Slightly.

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 02:48 PM (cGjQu)

77 Apparently, Young Ben Franklin was a woman of color.
Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 02:44 PM (MWfyi)
===

Apparently, the Dems of Philadelphia have finally figured out what they think a woman is.

Posted by: mrp at July 05, 2026 02:48 PM (rj6Yv)

78 59 "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend . Director says 1776 is already in the works! So, I guess it beat out the opening weekend for "Supergirl", eh? 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

That makes very happy. I loved the movie. It deserves to do well at the box office.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 02:49 PM (lJ0H4)

79 "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend.
****

Is that a lot?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (2Ez/1)
-

Same as in town.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:49 PM (y1wyK)

80 I've been watching Tom Hanks' WWII on the History Channel. I thought it was OK but not a lot of new information if you're generally familiar with WWII. But the episode about the intelligence war had a lot of information, particularly about Ian Fleming, that I didn't know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 02:50 PM (ndZc7)

81 Is that a lot?
Posted by: I gotta ask"

Well, compared to Prometheus...

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 02:50 PM (cGjQu)

82 74 > "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend.
****

Is that a lot?
Posted by: I gotta ask at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (2Ez/1)

For an Angel Studios movie and an adult drama - yes. And it was all deserved. Everyone should go watch this movie...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2026 02:50 PM (tOcjL)

83 >Same problem (not the same box, but same problem).

Return system will not let me do another replacement so...
+++++++

It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 05, 2026 02:51 PM (2Ez/1)

84 The Europoors are good and mad that soccer has 4 quarters now and they are going to experiment with the Clock here in US where the Stadium clock will keep the official time not the ref
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 05, 2026 02:26 PM (ubCxQ)

Bullshit. That DOES NOT HAPPEN. THE GAME ENDS WHEN WE SAY IT DOES.

Posted by: Soccer officials at July 05, 2026 02:51 PM (4g5V+)

85 "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend . Director says 1776 is already in the works! So, I guess it beat out the opening weekend for "Supergirl", eh? 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 02:41 PM (looXz)


Mrs Cop and I went to watch "Young Washington" yesterday. She liked it a great deal. My own reaction was a bit more subdued.

The modern Amercanized English dialog kept intruding upon my suspension of disbelief. (Example: characters using the expression "Okay"). The combat scenes were more akin to WWII, rather than 18th C. skirmishing. The French deploying artillery mounted on the 4-wheeled carriages intended for fortifications just pushed me over the edge.

However, the general sequence of events is correct, and some of the cinematography is quite stunning.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 05, 2026 02:51 PM (ksbjf)

86 The $20 million may have Ben just for the one day July 4th:

"On July 4th, Young Washington was No. 2 at the domestic B.O. with $7.6M behind Minions & Monsters‘ $9.4M.

The over 55 crowd showed up at a big 47% to Young Washington — remarkable, as that demographic has been even slower to trickle out post Covid. Overall CinemaScore was an A and a great 81% definite recommend on Screen Engine/Rentrak’"

And bonus for the ladies, the actor playing Washington is nice looking IMO, and For the guys Sally Fairfax is cute as well

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 02:53 PM (D+BhG)

87 ************

Did they report that American Liberals were deliberately destroying the reflecting pool immediately after the repairs? That would seem to be an important part of the story. Usually people who value our national monuments aren't out defacing and destroying them in an effort to undo acts of restoration.

Posted by: Sam Adams
----

No, it appears that it 'just happened', ...

"Shortly after the Reflecting Pool reopened, it was plagued by an algae bloom. Crews poured in gallons of hydrogen peroxide, a compound used in paint removers, as one of the steps taken to rein in the algae.

Then observers began noticing shards of blue sealant peeling off the Reflecting Pool...."

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 02:54 PM (vC80E)

88 59 "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend . Director says 1776 is already in the works! So, I guess it beat out the opening weekend for "Supergirl", eh? 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 02:41 PM (looXz)

Be careful about Angel Studios, the original guys that started it were pushed out and now it's run by Hollywood types theirs a youtube video of the breakdown and he tried to get the free tickets and it wouldn't let him and he tried multiple times

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 05, 2026 02:54 PM (ubCxQ)

89 >But the episode about the intelligence war had a lot of information, particularly about Ian Fleming, that I didn't know.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 02:50 PM
++++++
I found this to be very entertaining:

https://youtu.be/Iipsxj3hRpE

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 02:54 PM (2Ez/1)

90 >>> For an Angel Studios movie and an adult drama - yes. And it was all deserved. Everyone should go watch this movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2026 02:50 PM (tOcjL)


I hope animal farm was just a fluke, that they learned their lesson, and then s-canned those that were involved.

My kid is a Washington stan and wanted to see this movie. She went with a bunch of other kids her age and it was well received. Homeschool types.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2026 02:55 PM (3uBP9)

91 "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend.
****

Is that a lot?
Posted by: I gotta ask at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (2Ez/1)

Yes. Per the Intertubes, that was about the budget of the movie, so it is well on its way to making a profit.

Compare this to the "Supergirl" movie from last week, budget of $170 million, opening box office of $37 million.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 05, 2026 02:55 PM (CSQvy)

92 Went to the fireworks show last night. Paid $30 to park at a local resort and, as a consequence, got to see the resort's display, followed by the city's display (a couple miles away), followed by the local minor league baseball team's display (about 3/4 of a mile away).

All in all, about 2.5 hours of fireworks goodness with a longish delay between the city and baseball team as they finished winning their game and we were serenaded by drunks singing badly.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 05, 2026 02:56 PM (ExV1e)

93
they are going to experiment with the Clock here in US where the Stadium clock will keep the official time not the ref

_____________

Counting down instead of up and having the time remaining visible to everyone would do wonders for the sport.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 02:57 PM (O0L8i)

94 So Mars, Houston... yeah, they're the same.

Except for temperature. Slightly warmer in Houston.

Slightly.

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 02:48 PM (cGjQu)
-

Temperature rising. Houston, we have a problem:

https://tinyurl.com/3arx5sef

Philistines upon you, America!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:58 PM (y1wyK)

95 52 I see X requires login to view now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

again

use

xcancel, it gets you there

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 02:58 PM (vC80E)

96 > yearlong simulated deep space mission at Johnson Space Center, set to begin no earlier than August 2027."
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Weren't there other simulations like this done? I recall at least a couple that were somewhat legit, and a couple that were just disasters. IIRC some group of weirdos tried it and they were basically at each other's throats by the end of 3 months. One might have tried to kill themself or someone else... authorities had to yank them out and put them all in a hospital for observation.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 02:59 PM (jehhT)

97
Pulled into dealer and told problem, went out to start it up and wouldn't go forward or reverse.
Posted by: Skip

===============

Well, at least you know you have a real problem.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 02:59 PM (mmrXZ)

98 "Young Washington " makes $20.8 million dollars opening weekend.
****

Is that a lot?


That depends on the number of screens on which it's showing. No, I don't know how many.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 03:00 PM (Riz8t)

99 Hi There!

Posted by: Young Boom Boom Washington at July 05, 2026 03:02 PM (g7saB)

100 "NASA has opened recruitment for the Moon and Mars Exploration Analog (MMEA), a yearlong simulated deep space mission at Johnson Space Center, set to begin no earlier than August 2027.

...
https://tinyurl.com/yjjff58a

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf
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Not enough money to get me on a NASA ship.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 03:02 PM (vC80E)

101 The kids are alright.

>>https://tinyurl.com/2rdvb7du
Posted by: JackStraw

Get down! Get funky!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:03 PM (ndZc7)

102 >But the episode about the intelligence war had a lot of information, particularly about Ian Fleming, that I didn't know.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 02:50 PM
++++++
I found this to be very entertaining:

https://youtu.be/Iipsxj3hRpE


There's a movie about it: Operation Mincemeat. It's on Netflix.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 03:03 PM (Riz8t)

103 FWP? Took me 18 holes before carding a par today. Drug the team score down- that's how to do it, I suppose.

Posted by: scampydog at July 05, 2026 03:08 PM (/afFH)

104 101 The kids are alright.

>>https://tinyurl.com/2rdvb7du
Posted by: JackStraw

Get down! Get funky!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury!
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Classified as viable music.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 03:08 PM (vC80E)

105 Fireworks in Mamdani's NY. Compare and contrast:

https://tinyurl.com/ybkf828s
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:38 PM (y1wyK)
====

What do you expect happens when a bunch goombahs get explosives?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 03:08 PM (RIvkX)

106 18 I am all lathered up because there is mustard and ketchup I can't get out of the squeeze bottle after they hit "empty." Yes, I had this happen yesterday.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My president has convictions at July 05, 2026 02:15 PM (obVEo)


FWS: Get them in opaque bottles, so you can't see the FWP you can't do anything about.

Posted by: SciVo at July 05, 2026 03:09 PM (Sy6m/)

107 First world problem is having a country so free, wealthy, opulent and degenerate that trust fund kids, stoners, blue-haired nose-pierced freaks, perpetual college students and political leeches can all prosper and spread their vile hate while damning and subverting the very country that doesn't line them up against the wall for doing so.

Posted by: Makes me a bit angry to be honest at July 05, 2026 03:10 PM (TbWk/)

108 FWP: I tune in to watch golf and CBS have the Boston Ball Hogs versus someone else. Who the eff are these guys?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:10 PM (qFwJc)

109 U.S. Grant was a Christian Nationalist as shown by his 7/4/1876 proclamation.


"I therefore invite the good people of the United States, on the approaching 4th day of July, in addition to the usual observances with which they are accustomed to greet the return of the day, further, in such manner and at such time as in their respective localities and religious associations may be most convenient, to mark its recurrence by some public religious and devout thanksgiving to Almighty God for the blessings which have been bestowed upon us as a nation during the century of our existence, and humbly to invoke a continuance of His favor and of His protection."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:12 PM (ndZc7)

110 > Apparently, my area in Florida, replete with an array of bugs that bite, and/or otherwise annoy due to their sheer numbers (lookin' atchoo, Junebug!), does not include fireflies.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 02:29 PM (nbLIj)

Yeah, not all regions of the US have them. I don't know why.

My brother's ex, PNW-born and bred, would not believe that such a thing even existed. She thought they were just something made up for the movies.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2026 03:12 PM (IG3/x)

111 >>he very country that doesn't line them up against the wall for doing so.

Posted by: Makes me a bit angry
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Let's do it and say we didn't.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 03:12 PM (vC80E)

112 I am grateful to live in a country so prosperous that Mississippi has the lowest average income and it is still higher than those wankers in Britain.

All these folks came over here for the World Cup and are blown away by our generosity. We are so wealthy that we can buy complete strangers dinners and rides.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:12 PM (qFwJc)

113
Turned out there was a worn relay in the box. It would work when the box was laid on its back on the test bench, and would stop working when the box was stood up vertical when hung on the wall.

Just something to think about.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 05, 2026 02:47 PM (CSQvy)

----

Those are the worst types of problems to figure out

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2026 03:12 PM (sDMsL)

114 All in all, about 2.5 hours of fireworks goodness with a longish delay between the city and baseball team as they finished winning their game and we were serenaded by drunks singing badly.

A MOME after 2.5 hours of fireworks? Nice...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 03:14 PM (nbLIj)

115 It's hilarious. They only know about America what CNN has been lying to them for decades. They come here and find out "Wow. America is peaceful and rich."

A/C in domed stadiums. Huh?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:15 PM (qFwJc)

116 Sometimes ants get into the switch box. Cut the breaker, open the switch box and get a brush to clean the contacts. That frequently wo

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There's an easily accessible box above ground.in the area of the storage tank, I'll take a look. We get the usual spring invasion of ants.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2026 03:16 PM (+r0A9)

117 >>They come here and find out "Wow. America is peaceful and rich."

A/C in domed stadiums. Huh?

Posted by: no one of any consequence
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Questions will be asked, back home.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 03:17 PM (vC80E)

118 ----

There's an easily accessible box above ground.in the area of the storage tank, I'll take a look. We get the usual spring invasion of ants.

Posted by: JM
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Turn the electricity off, first.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 03:18 PM (vC80E)

119 Golf is now on. I have to watch it. My golf group is going out tomorrow morning.

Uh. No. I am not spending money to be miserable. It's just too hot. Going bowling later. A/C is a First World Wonder.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:18 PM (qFwJc)

120 No, it appears that it 'just happened', ...

"Shortly after the Reflecting Pool reopened, it was plagued by an algae bloom. Crews poured in gallons of hydrogen peroxide, a compound used in paint removers, as one of the steps taken to rein in the algae.

Then observers began noticing shards of blue sealant peeling off the Reflecting Pool...."

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

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Yep, it "just happened."

Just like the Federal Agents, er, I mean the "Patriot Front" just showed up out of nowhere to march on the 4th of July....

Oddly, no American media outlets are even remotely interested in investigating who the "Patriot Front" people are, or who is behind their funding.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 03:18 PM (X+xvk)

121 Have my aluminum pile cut up, thought for sure would be a couple days to do that, now need a Friday and Saturday morning clear

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 03:18 PM (Ia/+0)

122 It's hilarious. They only know about America what CNN has been lying to them for decades. They come here and find out "Wow. America is peaceful and rich."

A/C in domed stadiums. Huh?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:15 PM (qFwJc)

And the US only had to put the FIFA-approved turf into stadiums that already existed. No years of construction and related graft.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 03:19 PM (pJK38)

123 I watched Sheep Detectives with my young grandson yesterday. At first, I was a little worried because there was a bit finding humor in the sheeps' misunderstanding of religion but on several several subsequent occasions, there were segments suggesting a divine plan.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:19 PM (ndZc7)

124 "Questions will be asked, back home."

And the elite will respond "Shut up prole. We are trying to save the planet. You must do your part."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:19 PM (qFwJc)

125 Spencer Pratt has a video attacking Mamdani's speech. Good for him! And BTW what was with Mamdani doing a speech with the desk backwards?. It looked ridiculous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 03:19 PM (D+BhG)

126 Black powder shooting is too fun, I need to find someplace to do it

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 03:20 PM (Ia/+0)

127 I loved "The Sheep Detectives." Of course you have to "suspend you disbelief" and just go with it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:20 PM (qFwJc)

128 Weirdest intermittent problem I've ever heard of was a guy who claimed that his dog was psychic because it would howl and whine just before the phone rang.

Old-school phones use 90 VAC for a ringing voltage, more than enough to give you a zap.

He'd chained his dog to a phone company grounding terminal and over time the dog had worked it loose so it was making poor contact.

The ringing voltage would be sent from the office and zap the dog, making it howl and whine. It would also start pissing. However, there wasn't enough current to actually make the phone ring.

Once the ground was wet, the grounding terminal was again making good contact, avoiding the path through the dog and providing enough current sink to make the phone actually ring.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2026 03:21 PM (IG3/x)

129 It's hilarious. They only know about America what CNN has been lying to them for decades. They come here and find out "Wow. America is peaceful and rich."

A/C in domed stadiums. Huh?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:15 PM (qFwJc)


Those air-conditioned stadiums are why it's so hot in Europe!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 03:22 PM (u/oMr)

130 Poor dog. Who chains their dog to phone company grounding terminal?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:22 PM (qFwJc)

131 They only know about America what CNN has been lying to them for decades.

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Saw a meme the other day. Dogs get more information from sniffing each other's butts than you get from watching CNN.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM (ndZc7)

132 23 I had a good FWP to share but I forgot it so maybe it wasn't such a big deal anyway.
Posted by: Savage Henry at July 05, 2026 02:19 PM (ZxPkt)


Living in a far-surburban (nearly exurban) whiteopia, I wandered off to scout an early spot for the fireworks show at the nearby elementary school, which has a remarkably large field (presumably set aside for future expansion). And I found such a perfect spot, with a 360-degree view of various high-power private residential shows, that I didn't want to leave and go get a folding chair, so I ended up just standing there for almost an hour before the 25-minute show even started.

But honestly, I spend more than enough time sitting. It was probably for the best. And it ended up being ideal for the main event too, less than 100 yards from the launchers, since they set up on the side of the field as far as possible from the school, right near my Perfect Spot.

Posted by: SciVo at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM (Sy6m/)

133 The ringing voltage would be sent from the office and zap the dog, making it howl and whine. It would also start pissing. However, there wasn't enough current to actually make the phone ring.

Once the ground was wet, the grounding terminal was again making good contact, avoiding the path through the dog and providing enough current sink to make the phone actually ring.



No shit Sherlock?

Posted by: Watson at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM (u/oMr)

134 Spencer Pratt has a video attacking Mamdani's speech. Good for him! And BTW what was with Mamdani doing a speech with the desk backwards?. It looked ridiculous.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

And his frowning lackeys limply holding their little American flags looking like they'd rather be anywhere but where they were.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM (lJ0H4)

135 Not it's hot in Europe because it's July.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE FRANCE HAS LOTS OF ELECTRICITY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM. THEY COULD EASILY BUILD MORE CAPACITY FOR A/C.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:24 PM (qFwJc)

136 It would also start pissing.
My phone always rings when I'm pissing.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 03:25 PM (Kt19C)

137 Yeah, not all regions of the US have them. I don't know why.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2026 03:12 PM (IG3/x)

My disappointment began when I moved to California in '99. I was told that there is a related species out there, but they lack the luminescent trait of their Eastern cousins. Coming back to the east coast, fireflies had a prominent place in my list of things to look forward to. Here's hoping that itch gets scratched tomorrow night..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 03:25 PM (nbLIj)

138 And his frowning lackeys limply holding their little American flags looking like they'd rather be anywhere but where they were.
Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM (lJ0H4)
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Well he is not American, so...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 03:25 PM (RIvkX)

139 Fireflies.... our grandkids spent their lives in California until about 2 years ago. They'd never seen them either. Or experienced a real, loud thunderstorm. (The lived near the ocean and those were somewhat rare.)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 03:25 PM (jehhT)

140 I must admit this. If A/C did not exist, the Southern States would not be as wealthy as they currently are. Really? A Volvo plant north of Charleston would not exist if not for A/C.

I could not live here without A/C.

Stupid Your a pee ans.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:29 PM (qFwJc)

141 We have lots of fireflies. Some years more than others. I'll find the females on me sometimes when I'm cutting grass.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 03:29 PM (MWfyi)

142 Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM (lJ0H

Yes, they all looked pretty grim, but a number of them were women wearing the hijab, so maybe they were looking forward to the Islamic revolution in the U.S.😠

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 03:31 PM (Bw1/o)

143 Stupid Islamists. We have guns.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:33 PM (qFwJc)

144 Independence Day: 1776. This is excellent, although I fear Hollywood may have taken a few liberties.

https://tinyurl.com/enxkaeer

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 03:34 PM (Riz8t)

145 I'll find the females on me sometimes when I'm cutting grass.
Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 03:29 PM (MWfyi)

Paging Mr. Paolo! Will Mr. Paolo please pick up the white courtesy phone...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 03:34 PM (nbLIj)

146 134 Spencer Pratt has a video attacking Mamdani's speech. Good for him! And BTW what was with Mamdani doing a speech with the desk backwards?. It looked ridiculous.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
____________________

Make no mistake, that whole production number was a subtle message that I'm sure Mamdani put a lot of thought into. First of all, that desk is George Washington's desk. Second of all, he surrounded himself with hajib wearing "foreigners". Third of all, his wife didn't even participate because she was hopping a plane to Spain to participate in a Muslim retreat. Finally, his speech was condescending nonsense.

He's flipping Americans the bird. Make no mistake about that. It was a message more to the Muslims around the world that Hijrah and Da'wah progresses as planned delivered quite purposefully on the most patriotic of US holidays.

I don't usually pay much attention to these type theatrics, but this on infuriated me.

Posted by: Orson at July 05, 2026 03:35 PM (dIske)

147 FWP according to my calculations, I won't be able to afford to travel when I retire.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 05, 2026 03:35 PM (cOQ4e)

148 Haven't noticed any lighting bugs yet, but should be out very soon if just missing them. I do go to bed before sunrise these days

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 03:36 PM (Ia/+0)

149 There are some species of firefly where the female will mimic the blinking pattern of a different species.

When the male shows up all ready for sexyfuntime, she eats him.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2026 03:38 PM (IG3/x)

150 Spencer Pratt has a video attacking Mamdani's speech. Good for him! And BTW what was with Mamdani doing a speech with the desk backwards?. It looked ridiculous.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

And his frowning lackeys limply holding their little American flags looking like they'd rather be anywhere but where they were.


Why, they're just like us. No difference, just good, loyal Americans who hate communism. I'll vote for them!

Mark it. This is the beginning of their push to "normalize" themselves for the fall elections.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 03:38 PM (Riz8t)

151 Oh, I wanted to ask the horde. Wasn't there a recent SCOTUS ruling the private businesses that are open to the public cannot deny the right of CWP holders to conceal carry on their premises?

The reason I ask is this. The Diocese of Charleston states "The possession of firearms or other weapons on or in Diocesan property... Concealed weapons are not permitted..."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:39 PM (qFwJc)

152 Haven't noticed any lighting bugs yet, but should be out very soon if just missing them. I do go to bed before sunrise these days

We paid a company to spray our yard for mosquitoes for a couple of years. The mosquitoes didn't seem to mind, but it absolutely destroyed the firefly population. We cancelled that "service" a couple of years ago, and now the fireflies are back in all their glorious numbers.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 03:40 PM (Riz8t)

153 Drones in Texas.

https://tinyurl.com/bdesstww

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:40 PM (ndZc7)

154 There are some species of firefly where the female will mimic the blinking pattern of a different species.

When the male shows up all ready for sexyfuntime, she eats him.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2026 03:38 PM (IG3/x)

I actually remember a Mark Trail comic strip informing me of this very fact. Not sure if it was a different species of firefly or some other predator. What I am sure of is that I'm damned old...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 03:42 PM (nbLIj)

155 Wasn't there a recent SCOTUS ruling the private businesses that are open to the public cannot deny the right of CWP holders to conceal carry on their premises?

The reason I ask is this. The Diocese of Charleston states "The possession of firearms or other weapons on or in Diocesan property... Concealed weapons are not permitted..."


IANAL, but if I understood the ruling correctly, once the owner of the property explicitly states "no guns", then that is completely within their rights, as it should be. The case involved situations where it was assumed that that was the policy.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 03:42 PM (Riz8t)

156 Why, they're just like us. No difference, just good, loyal Americans who hate communism. I'll vote for them!

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You betcha!

https://tinyurl.com/yu5r3j3z

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:43 PM (ndZc7)

157 Thank you. I just did a quick look. You are correct.

LOL.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:43 PM (qFwJc)

158 Drones in Texas.

https://tinyurl.com/bdesstww


I think of drones as the Kaboom of July 4 entertainments, but I have to admit they're getting better fast.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 03:44 PM (Riz8t)

159 A commie 4th!

8 Shot, Including 4 Kids, While Watching Fireworks in NYC

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:44 PM (ndZc7)

160 For some reason, this didn't post.

I thought of you morons yesterday.

FWP of the part-time neighbors was that last year they got into a competition with the people on the other shore about who had the bigger fireworks.

Last night was spectacular. We all sat on the deck and watched the battle. Dad went inside after debris landed on his head, but he saw when the far shore's raft caught on fire. Wish you could have been there, if only to cheer on the drunks yelling "Fuck you, that's nothing!" and other taunts.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 05, 2026 03:45 PM (cOQ4e)

161 Up to episode 9 now in The Village, everyone has a twisted tail going on

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 03:45 PM (Ia/+0)

162 Oh, I wanted to ask the horde. Wasn't there a recent SCOTUS ruling the private businesses that are open to the public cannot deny the right of CWP holders to conceal carry on their premises?

The reason I ask is this. The Diocese of Charleston states "The possession of firearms or other weapons on or in Diocesan property... Concealed weapons are not permitted..."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 03:39 PM (qFwJc)

I think the case to which you're referring is Wolford v Lopez. The ruling was you can carry on private property open to the public unless the place expressly says you cannot. That is the case already in 45 states, so SCOTUS just got the remainder in line (this case came out of Hawaii). The diocese is doing what is required by putting up the sign.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 03:46 PM (pJK38)

163 151: I believe the SCOTUS ruling was that states cannot declare private businesses that are open to the public to be gun free zones; but the private owners can do what they like.

Apparently a couple of commie totalitarian states had passed laws that every place open to the public was a gun-free zone.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 05, 2026 03:46 PM (CFj4+)

164 Trump UFO Advisors Claim Private Firms May Be Running Alien Craft Retrieval Programs

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Probably that damn Musk!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:47 PM (ndZc7)

165 Afternoon.

I would just like to thank the Horde for being the best community in the blogosphere. I've dipped my toes into many and I find every one of them severely wanting in every conceivable way.

This collection of cranks, crackpots, drunks, whoremongers and half-mad/half-insane maniacs still proves to be the most intelligent and awesome bunch of folks online. Hell yeah!

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit! at July 05, 2026 03:47 PM (rOe2S)

166 "I'll find the females on me sometimes when I'm cutting grass."
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Yeah. It can be a problem.

Posted by: Red Green at July 05, 2026 03:49 PM (2Ez/1)

167 A good time was had by all.

Tens of Thousands Attend Khamenei Funeral, Chant “Death to America”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 03:49 PM (ndZc7)

168 125 Spencer Pratt has a video attacking Mamdani's speech. Good for him! And BTW what was with Mamdani doing a speech with the desk backwards?. It looked ridiculous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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He wanted everyone to know there was no goat under the table.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2026 03:51 PM (vC80E)

169
I've got plenty of solutions.

Posted by: bartender at July 05, 2026 03:51 PM (pSotA)

170
And his frowning lackeys limply holding their little American flags looking like they'd rather be anywhere but where they were.
Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM (lJ0H4)

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I hate it when those America-haters pretend to love the country.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 03:52 PM (mmrXZ)

171 He wanted everyone to know there was no goat under the table.

Posted by: Braenyard
_________

Was it a partners desk with the drawers on both sides?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 05, 2026 03:53 PM (XvL8K)

172 Apparently, my area in Florida, replete with an array of bugs that bite, and/or otherwise annoy due to their sheer numbers (lookin' atchoo, Junebug!), does not include fireflies.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 02:29 PM (nbLIj)

Used to have lightning bugs from Jville to Micanopy down to Alligator Alley, anywheres about a mile from the shore.

Then the Yankees came...

Posted by: Zombie Osceloa at July 05, 2026 03:53 PM (g7saB)

173 I think that if people who are technically Americans but are Muslims going over to his funeral where they are shouting "Death to America" they need to be denied entry back here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 03:55 PM (Bw1/o)

174 American flags looking like they'd rather be anywhere but where they were.
Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 03:23 PM

I suppose later on they'll realize that instead of him celebrating their naturalization, they were human props. Not unlike The Olde Country.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 05, 2026 03:56 PM (cOQ4e)

175 Oh, I wanted to ask the horde. Wasn't there a recent SCOTUS ruling the private businesses that are open to the public cannot deny the right of CWP holders to conceal carry on their premises?

No. You're (I assume) thinking of Wolford v. Lopez where they said that a state law making every private business a no carry zone by default unless the owner explicitly said otherwise was unconstitutional.

The reason I ask is this. The Diocese of Charleston states "The possession of firearms or other weapons on or in Diocesan property... Concealed weapons are not permitted..."

As the private property owners, they are fully within their rights to do so. As it should be. You, of course, are fully within your rights to seek another diocese.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 03:57 PM (vTZFs)

176 > 171 He wanted everyone to know there was no goat under the table.

Posted by: Braenyard

Ah. Like the Wizard of Oz, then.

"Pay no attention to that goat beneath the table!"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2026 03:57 PM (IG3/x)

177 >This collection of cranks, crackpots, drunks, whoremongers and half-mad/half-insane maniacs still proves to be the most intelligent and awesome bunch of folks online. Hell yeah!

Posted by: Robert wants to see Rush, dammit!
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I will admit to crank.

Posted by: Savage Henry at July 05, 2026 03:58 PM (ZxPkt)

178 I saw part of a Paraguay v France game the other day in a restaurant.

I was amused that while all the Paraguay players looked like Latin Americans almost all of the French players were...black.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 03:58 PM (sKqQm)

179 knocking wood. I have hopefully found the cause of my FWP of the battery disconnect not keeping the old pickup's battery on when I turn it on. It looks like one of its connections is too loose. I ordered a set of stubby allen wrenches so I can tighten it. The battery clamp blocks access to the connector when installed. I suspect that when the mechanic put it on, he had to loosen it a partial turn to get the battery clamp to be in the right position and it has gradually gotten looser.

Hopefully that is it. I will sell as a project pickup with disclosure of the short that made the disconnect neccessary, but would be a harder sell if the pickup can't be started and it will be a royal PITA if I have to manually connect/disconnect battery.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 05, 2026 03:58 PM (CFj4+)

180 "I'll find the females on me sometimes when I'm cutting grass."
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Yeah. It can be a problem.

Posted by: Red Green


* golf clap * Well played, sir (or madam, I shouldn't assume).

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 04:00 PM (vTZFs)

181 I will admit to crank.
Posted by: Savage Henry
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I'm merely a harmless eccentric.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 04:00 PM (XeU6L)

182 Is this about us?

Posted by: The cranks, crackpots, drunks, whoremongers and half-mad/half-insane maniacs at July 05, 2026 04:06 PM (2Ez/1)

183 I'm merely a harmless eccentric.

My life goal is to overhear someone in the neighborhood say to someone else "Oh, that's just old Mr. Oddbob. He's harmless. (pause) Mostly."

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 04:06 PM (vTZFs)

184 Get cleaned up and upstairs
FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:06 PM (Ia/+0)

185 My life goal is to overhear someone in the neighborhood say to someone else "Oh, that's just old Mr. Oddbob. He's harmless. (pause) Mostly."
Posted by: Oddbob
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Pretty sure they already say that of me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 04:08 PM (XeU6L)

186 Chanting 'death to America' at the funeral of the guy who got schwacked by America, and who invented 'death to America' as a chant, on the 250th birthday of an America that very much still exists is....

Pathetic? Amusing? Pathetically amusing?

We don't chant for death. We deal it.

Rot in Piss, goatfucker.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2026 04:09 PM (Ot/FD)

187 Chanting 'death to America' at the funeral of the guy who got schwacked by America, and who invented 'death to America' as a chant, on the 250th birthday of an America that very much still exists is....

They're just lucky that Trump was busy yesterday. Millions of legit targets in one place is hard to resist.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 04:11 PM (vTZFs)

188 This collection of cranks, crackpots, drunks, whoremongers and half-mad/half-insane maniacs still proves to be the most intelligent and awesome bunch of folks online. Hell yeah!
Posted by: Robert


Who you callin' a whoremonger?

Posted by: mikeski at July 05, 2026 04:14 PM (VHUov)

189 "The diocese is doing what is required by putting up the sign."

No sign. Just a note in the bulletin.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 04:14 PM (qFwJc)

190 I loved "The Sheep Detectives." Of course you have to "suspend you disbelief" and just go with it.
Posted by: no one of any consequence


Your world sounds fun, where you can go to a movie about sheep detectives, and possibly not have to suspend disbelief.

Posted by: mikeski at July 05, 2026 04:15 PM (VHUov)

191 It is a fun movie. Just go with it.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 04:23 PM (qFwJc)

192 @ 120 No, it appears that it 'just happened' ... "Shortly after the Reflecting Pool reopened, it was plagued by an algae bloom. Crews poured in gallons of hydrogen peroxide, a compound used in paint removers, as one of the steps taken to rein in the algae. Then observers began noticing shards of blue sealant peeling off the Reflecting Pool...." - Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
________________________________--

That H2O2 became H20 when the two mixed … but hey: They tried, yes?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 05, 2026 04:39 PM (ayRl+)

193 I doubt that peroxide would cause sealant to peel off. Probably a vandal found a way to pump in pressurized air between the sealant and the concrete. Or possibly pool sealant is just not suitable for such a large area.

I hope they can solve the issue.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 05, 2026 06:22 PM (CFj4+)

194 Hi colleagues, how is everything, and what you would like to say about
this article, in my view its actually amazing in support of me.

Posted by: /game/1740?prevPath=puzzle&subCategory=other&id=21cb6280-cfed-11ee-a44b-4b604d66f0e9 at July 05, 2026 10:13 PM (CcBHS)

The Declaration Of Independence Is As Important Today As It Was in 1776

It is depressingly axiomatic that our current crop of pathetic, ahistoric, crass, rapacious, unpatriotic sub-wits in our government have no understanding the unique drive for freedom and liberty that animated our founders.

And what makes it worse is that they have no appreciation for what those men created: a template for the greatest country in the history of Man.

They think they can do better.

They are wrong.

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.


Read the rest at the National Archives
The list of grievances is fascinating, and the number that can be directed at our own government and its unelected bureaucratic autocracy is startling. It also illuminates the unchanging drive for power, and the wisdom of our founders to recognize it.

The last one could describe the last two Democrat presidents!

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

Sound familiar.

It is easy to dismiss the convulsions of our society as just another blip in the never-ending success of our glorious country. After all, America has survived 250 years, and the end result is absolutely amazing.

But the transportation, the technology, the communication that the United States has mostly created for the world has conspired to create vulnerabilities that are new, and we are unsure how to protect our wonderful country from the depredations of the rest of the world, and the enemies within.

Will we survive for another 250 years? That is up to us and our children and our grandchildren. I think that is the timeline for the survival of this great experiment.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 12:01 PM (y1wyK)

2 The last one could describe the last two Democrat presidents!

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

Sound familiar.
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Wagon drivers?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 12:03 PM (y1wyK)

3 Its a big country I hope so

Posted by: doug at July 05, 2026 12:04 PM (Hy+R4)

4 Yes! Excellent post, CBD. Good on ya.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 05, 2026 12:05 PM (ayRl+)

5

While accusing Donald Trump of politicizing the 250th anniversary of the United States, Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.

https://t.ly/j9nPp

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2026 12:05 PM (Cqx++)

6 Ot watching the time
Its lunch time

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 12:06 PM (Ia/+0)

7 He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

I wonder if there were loyalists back in the day arguing that raping and pillaging was worth being able to get authentic Indian food?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 12:06 PM (sKqQm)

8 He has excited old greek homos amongst us.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 12:06 PM (Kt19C)

9 The left/Democrats hate America. Talk to them and they will tell you...we are too free, we have too many guns, we use gasp AC!, we are too Christian, too white, too rich and on and on.

The right isn't politicizing Independence Day we are celebrating our country but since the left hates our country they'll argue THAT is politicizing it

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 12:08 PM (sKqQm)

10 Went to a Declaration reading yesterday.
Much is as it is today, if not what England is dokng to us as what the government is doing.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 12:08 PM (Ia/+0)

11 But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

There is iron in these words.

Posted by: dantesed at July 05, 2026 12:08 PM (Oy/m2)

12 While accusing Donald Trump of politicizing the 250th anniversary of the United States, Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.

https://t.ly/j9nPp

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2026 12:05 PM (Cqx++)
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Lots of good people responded. Here's DataRepublican, sharp as a blade:

https://tinyurl.com/4kdjyte3

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 12:08 PM (y1wyK)

13 Looking at the fascist police state Britain has become I am very very happy we cut those ties...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 12:08 PM (sKqQm)

14 Willowed:

lol @ Nick Sortor:

https://tinyurl.com/rrbf73k5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 12:09 PM (y1wyK)

15 I read this every July 4.

And the TX Declaration of Independence every March 2.

“These, and other grievances, were patiently borne by the people of Texas, untill they reached that point at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue. We then took up arms in defence of the national constitution. We appealed to our Mexican brethren for assistance. Our appeal has been made in vain. Though months have elapsed, no sympathetic response has yet been heard from the Interior.

“We are, therefore, forced to the melancholy conclusion, that the Mexican people have acquiesced in the destruction of their liberty, and the substitution therfor of a military government; that they are unfit to be free, and incapable of self government.”

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:10 PM (4g5V+)

16 12 While accusing Donald Trump of politicizing the 250th anniversary of the United States, Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.

https://t.ly/j9nPp

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2026 12:05 PM (Cqx++)

Bet they were furious about yesterdays festivities...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 05, 2026 12:10 PM (FtULh)

17 What do you think when you see that a Democrat gets indicted by a grand jury, and a judge inevitably overturns that indictment on grounds that nobody has heard of?

The left only cares about outcomes so this shouldn't be a surprise.

The annoyance here is there is just enough controlled opposition to stop us from acting in kind.

The fact that Bill Clinton never went to prison is a stain on the country.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 12:10 PM (sKqQm)

18 "...that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states..."

I guess that's why "The United Colonies of America" never really caught on as a national moniker.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 12:11 PM (2Ez/1)

19 Looking at the fascist police state Britain has become I am very very happy we cut those ties...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 12:08 PM (sKqQm)
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They still have diplomats in the US. And they still have somewhat of a sense of humo(u)r:

https://tinyurl.com/yvmftypb

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 12:11 PM (y1wyK)

20 Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.
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Projection is one the prime motivators of the street-level Left/Liberal/Prog/Dem psyche. Stir in some hypocrisy and narcissism, and there you have it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 12:12 PM (XeU6L)

21 Thanks CBD. Wow… reading it again, I said to myself: That one document alone puts Thomas Jefferson in the pantheon of greats, even if he did nothing else of consequence at all the rest of his life. Jefferson has never been one of my favorite founders but you gotta give him his due…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2026 12:12 PM (ugElV)

22 I've been in DC for a few Fourths. At the National Archives, they did a reading of the Declaration. After that, Revolutionary War re-enactors mustered in the street- Redcoats vs Patriots. Live black powder arms. FFS those black powder muskets were deafening.

Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2026 12:13 PM (ZxPkt)

23 “(The Mexican government under Santa Anna) has suffered the military commandants, stationed among us, to exercise arbitrary acts of oppression and tyrrany, thus trampling upon the most sacred rights of the citizens, and rendering the military superior to the civil power.”

“(King George the Threeth) has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.”

This is why it is important to understand that the police ARE civilians.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:14 PM (4g5V+)

24 @ 17 …The fact that Bill Clinton never went to prison is a stain on the country.
________________________

Clinton is the original 'StainMaster' … knowhutimean?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 05, 2026 12:14 PM (ayRl+)

25 >>The fact that Bill Clinton never went to prison is a stain on the country.

Ditto Hillary.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 05, 2026 12:15 PM (NcvvS)

26 22 I've been in DC for a few Fourths. At the National Archives, they did a reading of the Declaration. After that, Revolutionary War re-enactors mustered in the street- Redcoats vs Patriots. Live black powder arms. FFS those black powder muskets were deafening.
Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2026 12:13 PM (ZxPkt)

I saw just one fired at Halifax at the fort there for a demonstration. Concur. Covering my ears barely did it justice.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:15 PM (4g5V+)

27 But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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I think it's important to remind everyone that yesterday celebrated the announcement of the explanation for our forebears' decision to take up arms against their government (which they had been doing for quite some time).

It is reasonably recognized as the birthday of our nation.

It is not, however, the birth of our federal government. That, quite rightly, never gets any celebration.

Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2026 12:16 PM (vSvIl)

28 25 >>The fact that Bill Clinton never went to prison is a stain on the country.

Ditto Hillary.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 05, 2026 12:15 PM (NcvvS)

Agree. But think Obama was much much much much worse

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2026 12:16 PM (ugElV)

29
"And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

*****

Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The Nothing Will Happen guy's great-great-great-great grandfather at July 05, 2026 12:16 PM (2Ez/1)

30 America is fortunate to have him:

Elon Musk @elonmusk 6h
Replying to @TheAliceSmith

I read the Declaration of Independence out loud today with heartfelt conviction.

It is a work not just of genius, but also of a purity of soul that resonates to this very day.


See his numerous patriotic X posts over the last 2 days:

https://x.com/elonmusk/

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 12:16 PM (y1wyK)

31 Clinton is the original 'StainMaster' … knowhutimean?
Posted by: Dr_No
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The free press was incredible!

Posted by: The Gap at July 05, 2026 12:16 PM (XeU6L)

32 Not surprised Leftists claim opponents are doing what they are doing

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 12:17 PM (Ia/+0)

33 ". ..is a stain on the country."

Ewwww

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 12:17 PM (cGjQu)

34 It is depressingly axiomatic that most of the current crop of greedy, selfish, grasping, grifting, double dipping, four flushing, crass, ahistoric, unkept and unpatriotic american residents only participate in the money laundering scheme which is the federal government so they can get paid or get some kind of bennie, freebie or handout.

Posted by: Over 39.46 Trillion and Growing at July 05, 2026 12:17 PM (g7saB)

35 I am going to keep repeating this. Voting for a Congressman 2 Senators and a President and thinking this absolves one from any other effort to maintain our freedom is so short sighted.
It has been said we are not voting our way out of the rise of socialism/communism and that is true. Standing up and speaking out is the solution.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:17 PM (afJtY)

36 >>Agree. But think Obama was much much much much worse

You're right in total effect, but with the Clintons there was so much evidence with which to prosecute them. Obama's offences were political; the Clintons' actually criminal.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 05, 2026 12:18 PM (NcvvS)

37 “We, therefore, the delegates with plenary powers of the people of Texas, in solemn convention assembled, appealing to a candid world for the necessities of our condition, do hereby resolve and declare, that our political connection with the Mexican nation has forever ended, and that the people of Texas do now constitute a free, Sovereign, and independent republic, and are fully invested with all the rights and attributes which properly belong to independent nations; and, conscious of the rectitude of our intentions, we fearlessly and confidently commit the issue to the decision of the Supreme arbiter of the destinies of nations.”

Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The guy who always says Nothing Will Happen Texas ancestors at July 05, 2026 12:19 PM (4g5V+)

38 Clinton is the original 'StainMaster' … knowhutimean?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 05, 2026 12:14 PM (ayRl+)
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"Devil on a blue dress" - Lewinsky rendition.

"Devil in a blue dress" - Epstein rendition.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 12:19 PM (y1wyK)

39 @ 28 25 >>The fact that Bill Clinton never went to prison is a stain on the country. Ditto Hillary.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 05, 2026 12:15 PM (NcvvS)
Agree. But think Obama was much much much much worse

____________________________________

No. Bidet the Forgettable is without doubt the worst - and most corrupt (which speaks volumes). Little Jilliekins comes in 2nd since she was 'The Enabler'. Mama, why don't we still use firing squads … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at July 05, 2026 12:19 PM (ayRl+)

40
The free press was incredible!
Posted by: The Gap
-----

The dress...hold it...I might be treading on Piper's turf.

Anyway: https://shorturl.at/IrOSU

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 12:19 PM (XeU6L)

41 35 I am going to keep repeating this. Voting for a Congressman 2 Senators and a President and thinking this absolves one from any other effort to maintain our freedom is so short sighted.
It has been said we are not voting our way out of the rise of socialism/communism and that is true. Standing up and speaking out is the solution.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:17 PM (

Absolutely. Voting is a PART of participation in government.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:20 PM (4g5V+)

42 A lot of the Declaration grievances sound like the modern Democrat Party agenda...

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

Posted by: Still in the Courfe of human events at July 05, 2026 12:20 PM (TbWk/)

43 The fireworks are off the charts. We were in that space between the Washington Monument and the Capitol Building. All the debris from the exploding shells rains down- scorched cardboard, bits of burnt rubber and paper, soot- you get dirtied up. Worth it.

Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2026 12:21 PM (ZxPkt)

44 I wonder if there were loyalists back in the day arguing that raping and pillaging was worth being able to get authentic Indian food?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 12:06 PM (sKqQm)

At 3am

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:22 PM (4g5V+)

45 43 The fireworks are off the charts. We were in that space between the Washington Monument and the Capitol Building. All the debris from the exploding shells rains down- scorched cardboard, bits of burnt rubber and paper, soot- you get dirtied up. Worth it.
Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2026 12:21 PM
###

Likewise on the riverbank in the Old Dumb Union.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 12:24 PM (2Ez/1)

46 You know what 40,000 people calling a Congressman 's office gets?

His fuckin attention.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:24 PM (afJtY)

47 44 I wonder if there were loyalists back in the day arguing that raping and pillaging was worth being able to get authentic Indian food?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2026 12:06 PM (sKqQm)

At 3am
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:22 PM (4g5V+)

No GrubHub back then. Or drive-throughs. Trot up on your horse for two orders of pemmican and a slab of salted buffalo?

Posted by: Where else can you get rape at 3am but NYC? at July 05, 2026 12:25 PM (TbWk/)

48 46 You know what 40,000 people calling a Congressman 's office gets?

His fuckin attention.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:24 PM (afJtY)


Not always.

Posted by: Senator McConnell's Chief of Staff at July 05, 2026 12:29 PM (c3YdQ)

49 Sadly, our "elected" officials would take exception to much of the Declaration today.

I'd really like to see Trump take the members of Congress who obviously represent people other than Americans to task. Ilhan Omar for example, who represents her Somali brethren, not Americans. Or any of the other representatives who constantly bitch and moan about Palestine. Or whatever.

These people need to be exiled.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 12:31 PM (jehhT)

50 48 46 You know what 40,000 people calling a Congressman 's office gets?

His fuckin attention.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:24 PM (afJtY)


I'm in CA... It would probably get me arrested....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 05, 2026 12:32 PM (FtULh)

51 Jefferson has never been one of my favorite founders but you gotta give him his due…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2026 12:12 PM (ugElV)


Agreed...he was too enamored of the French Revolution.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 12:33 PM (l4RKn)

52 Back a few years ago when amnesty was being floated phone lines to the Capital were melted by the sheer volume of calls. What happened? The subject disappeared.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:33 PM (afJtY)

53 20 Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.
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Projection is one the prime motivators of the street-level Left/Liberal/Prog/Dem psyche. Stir in some hypocrisy and narcissism, and there you have it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

*******************

Yesterday History Channel was running a program on George Washington. Not having seen any history portrayed on History Channel in years, I eagerly tuned in.

The first thing I saw was Bill Clinton holding forth on his perceptions of George Washington. I had the channel changed before he out five words.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:34 PM (X+xvk)

54 Agreed, they are very wrong. About everything.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 05, 2026 12:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

55 Im amazed at how the Declaration is still relevant today

Despite the commies, if America hadn't endured all of us would be getting regular visits from Scotland Yard over what we post on AOS and either fined or arrested

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With More Quality Fapness at July 05, 2026 12:35 PM (fapp/)

56
Dubois Wyoming Military Museum celebrates 250th by crushing cars with tanks.

Cowboy State Daily has the story.

America!

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:35 PM (/QHx4)

57 Agreed...he was too enamored of the French Revolution.

************************

they did have some large wagshambas though

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With More Quality Fapness at July 05, 2026 12:36 PM (fapp/)

58 Prager University- The Declaration of Independence. It's a cool AI video. I think it's about 14 minutes. They also have another one of about two hours profiling all the Signers and advocating for people to continue to speak up for liberty:

https://tinyurl.com/4dn8djj2

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 12:37 PM (+wdeh)

59 Dubois Wyoming Military Museum celebrates 250th by crushing cars with tanks.

Cowboy State Daily has the story.

America!

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:35 PM (/QHx4)

I love Dubois and the Wind River valley. Heaven on earth.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 05, 2026 12:38 PM (0aYVJ)

60 It's me donna, do you know 5 other conservative people in your neighborhood?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:38 PM (afJtY)

61 Reading John Adams history and his friendship with Jefferson, I can easily relate more closely to Adams and how this guy could never seem to catch a break

He's buried in a crypt at a private church still standing today and active AFAIK, I always intended to go and pay my respects but I did get a second best opportunity visiting his home which is still beautifully kept by US Parks

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With More Quality Fapness at July 05, 2026 12:38 PM (fapp/)

62
Pug,

Agree.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:38 PM (/QHx4)

63 If I've learned one thing from the history of the United States it's never bet against a free people. Many have no idea how close we came to losing our war of independence multiple times. We came almost as close over the last decade. But we didn't lose because free men will always resist, often when it seems all is lost.

The United States is more than just the best and most free country on the planet. We are beacon of hope and freedom for the entire world and recently a whole new generation of people from around the world have learned that.

I've never been more optimistic about this little experiment.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 12:39 PM (viF8m)

64 Despite the commies, if America hadn't endured all of us would be getting regular visits from Scotland Yard over what we post on AOS and either fined or arrested
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger
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We have a list.

Posted by: Bob, at the NSA at July 05, 2026 12:40 PM (XeU6L)

65 While living in Houston, John Culberson was my Congressman. I sent him an extract of the complaints in the Declaration, accusing him of being guilty of those. This was one time that I received something besides a handful of printed brochures in reply. He sent me a very angry, 2-page letter denying his culpability there.

Kudos for recognizing what I done and how I had sourced it, but he was still nothing but a statist RINO.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 05, 2026 12:41 PM (KqLd6)

66 57 Agreed...he was too enamored of the French Revolution.

************************

they did have some large wagshambas though
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With More Quality Fapness at July 05, 2026 12:36 PM (fapp/)

Even TJ saw the problems with the French Revolution well afterwards.

They have a statue of TJ in Paris.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:42 PM (4g5V+)

67 Im amazed at how the Declaration is still relevant today

Despite the commies, if America hadn't endured all of us would be getting regular visits from Scotland Yard over what we post on AOS and either fined or arrested
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I doubt there'd even be an internet much less the personal devices we use to access it.

Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2026 12:42 PM (vSvIl)

68 Agreed...he was too enamored of the French Revolution.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2026 12:33 PM (l4RKn)

Yes, too much a Francophile for my taste. Excused the excesses of their revolution which I’ve never understood.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2026 12:42 PM (26GAh)

69 As we do every year, we had a reading of the Declaration at my colonial era church yesterday - a church where it was doubtless read when it was first signed.

Last year I'd guess the attendance was 110 or so. This year it was 214.

I am optimistic.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 12:42 PM (Riz8t)

70 In parts of Alaska it doesn't get dark enough for fireworks.

So they do this: https://tinyurl.com/5ab79369

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 12:43 PM (jehhT)

71
The United States is more than just the best and most free country on the planet. We are beacon of hope and freedom for the entire world and recently a whole new generation of people from around the world have learned that.

I've never been more optimistic about this little experiment.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Reagan on America " It's the American vision of creating a new nation of free people, a country that would be a light unto the nations, and a shining city upon a hill. "


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 12:44 PM (XeU6L)

72 48 46 You know what 40,000 people calling a Congressman 's office gets?

His fuckin attention.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 12:24 PM (afJtY)

Not always.
Posted by: Senator McConnell's Chief of Staff at July 05, 2026 12:29 PM (c3YdQ)

I know what you mean, man. Fuck my district. I’ll give them some red meat, but beyond that, they don’t need to know what I do in the TX HR. Idiots.

Posted by: Rep. Ken King, TX HR at July 05, 2026 12:45 PM (4g5V+)

73 America will survive, but it’s hard to say what it will look like 250 years from now. By that time I think we’ll be gradually moving into space.

Posted by: RebeccaH at July 05, 2026 12:45 PM (VFung)

74 If I've learned one thing from the history of the United States it's never bet against a free people. Many have no idea how close we came to losing our war of independence multiple times. We came almost as close over the last decade. But we didn't lose because free men will always resist, often when it seems all is lost.
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We should never forget the virtue of bitching about shit that could be better *and then fixing it* rather than keeping a stiff upper lip and accepting the way things "just are."

Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2026 12:45 PM (vSvIl)

75 Love this guy. Enjoy:

https://tinyurl.com/Washingtons-Dream

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at July 05, 2026 12:46 PM (3ImbR)

76 While accusing Donald Trump of politicizing the 250th anniversary of the United States, Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.

Oh, Bill. It's so cute that you think anyone still gives a s*** about your opinion on anything. You were a terrible president, but you've been an even worse ex-president, which is hard to do.

In the words of Critical Drinker, "go away now"!

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

77 It is not, however, the birth of our federal government. That, quite rightly, never gets any celebration.
Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2026 12:16 PM (vSvIl)

You don’t remember the 200th anniversary of the Constitution in September 1987?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:47 PM (4g5V+)

78 Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 12:42 PM (Riz8t

That's really cool that you have that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 12:48 PM (Bw1/o)

79 >>We should never forget the virtue of bitching about shit that could be better *and then fixing it* rather than keeping a stiff upper lip and accepting the way things "just are."

+1

Posted by: Nazdar at July 05, 2026 12:48 PM (NcvvS)

80 Oh, Bill. It's so cute that you think anyone still gives a s*** about your opinion on anything. You were a terrible president, but you've been an even worse ex-president, which is hard to do.

In the words of Critical Drinker, "go away now"!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

Dude will be 80 on August 19.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:48 PM (4g5V+)

81 I saw the Khaki Fed Boys showed up again yesterday in DC, LOL. The media was alerted to ride the subway with them and take lots of photos, but had no interest in finding out who they were. Funny that.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2026 12:49 PM (QZThv)

82 >>...Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THAT'S THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE CLINTON FAMILY BOOK OF SCORCHED EARTH POLITICS.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 05, 2026 12:49 PM (X8xt3)

83 Said the Baron to the Earl, Did you hear what these colonists said?
No, what?
They declared that all men are created equal. Imagine what the laborers and serfs would think!

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2026 12:50 PM (fyPzL)

84 While accusing Donald Trump of politicizing the 250th anniversary of the United States, Bill Clinton accuses President Trump of doing everything the Democrats are doing.

The White House official X account named Hillary's "Happy birthday to this future president" as the greatest social media post of all time, so he probably was forced to defend her (dis)honor.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2026 12:50 PM (QZThv)

85 I've read that document so many times it makes my teeth itch. Both for my own purposes and because my dad read it aloud every Independence Day into my middle age.

I don't bother anymore.

If we lived in a country where even a small minority of people took that shit remotely seriously, there would be no such thing as a United States anymore. It would have been unceremoniously swept into the bin decades ago, and be called something else.

Our ruling class makes George III's look like purring pussycats, but the course of human events passed up these ideas, at least in our time and place.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2026 12:51 PM (BI5O2)

86 >>Agree. But think Obama was much much much much worse

You're right in total effect, but with the Clintons there was so much evidence with which to prosecute them. Obama's offences were political; the Clintons' actually criminal.


I disagree vehemently. Obama attempted to turn the entire apparatus of the state against the American people to secure his own power. Yes, Clinton was a criminal, but Obama was the worst traitor this country has ever known.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 12:52 PM (Riz8t)

87 Said the Baron to the Earl, Did you hear what these colonists said?
No, what?
They declared that all men are created equal. Imagine what the laborers and serfs would think!


Leftism is "I want to be the aristocracy" all the way down.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2026 12:53 PM (QZThv)

88 You don’t remember the 200th anniversary of the Constitution in September 1987?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:47 PM (4g5V+)

Not in the slightest.

I assume, based on the way the Constitution is typically discussed, that anyone marking the occasion would be talking about the document and the wisdom of trying to limit government, rather than celebrating the foul pit of corruption that is D.C.

Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2026 12:53 PM (vSvIl)

89 I am unable to find any redeeming qualities in the Clintons.

Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2026 12:54 PM (zqeQL)

90 I can't imagine our Congress critters have published phone numbers for their office(s) unless it's mandatory or some sort of law.

Not that they personally ever respond to their constituents. Or care.

And I question what sort of agenda their staffers have as they're likely the ones interfacing with the public anyway.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 12:54 PM (jehhT)

91 Also, 89th!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 05, 2026 12:54 PM (zqeQL)

92 Let me recommend you check YouTube channels by Korean sisters Hana and Ina. Who defected from North Korea and now live in South Korea and have toured the United States.
Their love for the U.S. including the freedom and the food is absolutely infectious.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 05, 2026 12:56 PM (z51w/)

93 I was in DC that summer. Actually, Fort Lee, VA… one day they gave us leave and bussed us to DC and we got to go to the building where it was (National Archives?)… it was under glass but I got to view the historic document. Memorable

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2026 12:57 PM (26GAh)

94 93 — I was talking about summer 1987 and getting to see the constitution

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2026 12:58 PM (26GAh)

95 The United States is more than just the best and most free country on the planet. We are beacon of hope and freedom for the entire world and recently a whole new generation of people from around the world have learned that.

I've never been more optimistic about this little experiment."


*Stands. Doffs cap in salute*

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 12:59 PM (cGjQu)

96 I mention this only to show how easy it can be. Several years ago, being sick of an ineffectual R party I rented a meeting room at the library, called religious leaders, Hispanic leaders and black leaders in town and invited them to an open discussion about the travesty that became Obamacare. We met every two weeks, had civil and informative discussions and changed some minds about the true costs of " healthcare".

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 01:00 PM (afJtY)

97 This describes my thinking to a tee.

This Mamdani-style anti-American chic that gets gushing reviews from self-hating upper class neurotics is just a revived late-sixties/early 70s fad that was boring and stupid then, and still is now.


Yeah, I don’t know that Mamdani is even worth responding to seriously because DSA rhetoric is just an incoherent pastiche of ideological slop that last had real salience more than 50 years ago.

A meta-criticism pointing out that retarded theater kids have commandeered a major political party yet lack the requisite cognitive capacity to form a coherent ideological narrative for what they’re doing is probably closer to the target than responding to his midwit provocations in earnest.


https://tinyurl.com/4hcf5a96

Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

98 As far as I could see, the 4th passed uncelebrated in my neighborhood of Providence. No flags or bunting on the houses or vehicles, no general uplifted moods.
Completely disappointed

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2026 01:02 PM (sl73Y)

99 Martini Farmer, all representatives have not only their Washington office but local offices phone numbers published. Any representatives can be reached through the main switchboard in Washington.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 01:03 PM (afJtY)

100 Shut up, Bill.

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife at July 05, 2026 01:04 PM (2Ez/1)

101 The Declaration of Independence is one of the most eloquent and remarkable pieces of prose in human history. Almost poetic in its grandeur.

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2026 01:05 PM (I0N4X)

102 I got some good veterinary malpractice research for an upcoming appellate brief done last night and drank a Miller Lite. Independence!

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 05, 2026 01:05 PM (DZ9Lv)

103 I was listening to my favorite radio station the other night. They have a regular lineup of DJs, and the one I listen to most is this old Boomer who plays R&B and soul, mostly from the 60's, with current stuff mixed in.

The theme the other night was of course around the 4th. Lot's of power to the people and revolution shit, and it occurred to me that these people have been bitching about all the same things for my entire life. No way to go through life, and no wonder so many are perpetually unhappy with it.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 05, 2026 01:05 PM (QaH55)

104 I disagree vehemently. Obama attempted to turn the entire apparatus of the state against the American people to secure his own power. Yes, Clinton was a criminal, but Obama was the worst traitor this country has ever known.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 12:52 PM
*****

Heh.
Do they have a big honkin' bridge named after them?
Well, do they?

Posted by: The ghost of Woodrow Wilson at July 05, 2026 01:08 PM (2Ez/1)

105 > Martini Farmer, all representatives have not only their Washington office but local offices phone numbers published. Any representatives can be reached through the main switchboard in Washington.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Yeah, I know. What I was wondering was if that's a requirement, law or what.

I would imagine they'd rather not. If permitted.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 01:11 PM (jehhT)

106 >>The theme the other night was of course around the 4th. Lot's of power to the people and revolution shit, and it occurred to me that these people have been bitching about all the same things for my entire life. No way to go through life, and no wonder so many are perpetually unhappy with it.


This is how it was at the celebration at the nearby city park. Lots of young kids and parents having a blast eating ice cream, facepainting, bicycle parade, etc. In the boathouse was a band playing the old standbys, but then they had to pause and launch into a long speech about how it's vital that we ALL must vote to Save Our Democracy(tm) and on and on. Not subtle.
Meanwhile the families continued having a blast being normal.

It's people like that dude that have made the "boomer" pejorative so popular. Still thinks he's fightin' The Man as he comfortably enjoys a holiday in a nice, safe neighborhood.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2026 01:12 PM (X8xt3)

107 God, but I miss El Rushbo. We had a brilliant man with the biggest microphone in America routinely calling out the quislings and cowards in the GOP. Rush could issue one statement and phone lines in Washington, D.C. would be melting down.

Now we have this shameless, corrupt coward Thune stabbing us in the back every day, openly working to secure Democrat victories, and we have no national voice calling him out.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 01:14 PM (X+xvk)

108 >>Reagan on America " It's the American vision of creating a new nation of free people, a country that would be a light unto the nations, and a shining city upon a hill. "

When I was a lot younger and even more cynical I I thought that was a nice sentiment from a politician. A lot of travel and meeting people and seeing the world for myself made me realize just how true those words are.

Just in the last year or so Latin America has done a 180 and elected, for lack of a better term, 7 rightwing leaders after years of socialism/communism. That wasn't some cosmic accident. The world watches the US and follows no matter what the media says. When we are weak bad things happen to us and them. When we are strong they stand up.

We're just getting started.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:15 PM (viF8m)

109 ...thinks he's fightin' The Man as he comfortably enjoys a holiday in a nice, safe neighborhood.
Posted by: Lizzy


*********

You never see a twinkle of happiness in the eye of an old hippie.

Posted by: muldoon at July 05, 2026 01:16 PM (I0N4X)

110 >>You never see a twinkle of happiness in the eye of an old hippie.


Exactly!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 05, 2026 01:17 PM (X8xt3)

111 More humid than humid outside

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 01:18 PM (Ia/+0)

112 Not in the slightest.

I assume, based on the way the Constitution is typically discussed, that anyone marking the occasion would be talking about the document and the wisdom of trying to limit government, rather than celebrating the foul pit of corruption that is D.C.
Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2026 12:53 PM (vSvIl)

I was in school at the time and that was most certainly done.

In my stamp collection I have some old stamps from the time that contain sections of the Preamble.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 01:19 PM (4g5V+)

113 I disagree vehemently. Obama attempted to turn the entire apparatus of the state against the American people to secure his own power. Yes, Clinton was a criminal, but Obama was the worst traitor this country has ever known.
Posted by: Archimedes
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"I've got a pen and I've got a phone - and I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward" --Barack Obama

One of his most arrogant declarations. He speaks not to the responsibilty of the President, but to his own ego/narcissism.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:19 PM (XeU6L)

114 Even the kickball people get it.

>>@espn

>>Breaking: Folarin Balogun will be available to play in USA's Round of 16 match against Belgium on Monday, FIFA announced.

>>The FIFA Disciplinary Committee has suspended the red card issued to the USA striker during their Round of 32 win over Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:20 PM (viF8m)

115 About that list of grievances in the US Declaration of Independence ...

The following is a list of the 27 grievances in the DoI and a contextual analysis of each one in detail. FASCINATING WORK. Several items I was not aware of, particularly the framing of the rights of the people to assume power as accepted fact in the context of the 1688 "Glorious Revolution".

LINK: https://tinyurl.com/5eakvxvw

Posted by: mrp at July 05, 2026 01:22 PM (rj6Yv)

116 114 Even the kickball people get it.

>>@espn

>>Breaking: Folarin Balogun will be available to play in USA's Round of 16 match against Belgium on Monday, FIFA announced.

>>The FIFA Disciplinary Committee has suspended the red card issued to the USA striker during their Round of 32 win over Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:20 PM (viF8m)

Damn, gotta put away the little red card so I can lose it again and frantically look for it again after running on to the field after a soccer player stubs his toe on the grass…

Posted by: Soccer official at July 05, 2026 01:23 PM (4g5V+)

117 Afternoon Horde. Thx CBD.
All of our original documents are simply written. Yet they've had more political impact than any other political documents ( Bible excluded "

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 05, 2026 01:23 PM (1OoAs)

118 @SportsCenter
·
16m
FIFA have suspended the red card USMNT striker Folarin Balogun received in the match against Bosnia-Herzegovina, meaning he is available to face Belgium in the Round of 16

Posted by: Savage Henry at July 05, 2026 01:25 PM (ZxPkt)

119 "I've got a pen and I've got a phone - and I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward" --Barack Obama

One of his most arrogant declarations. He speaks not to the responsibilty of the President, but to his own ego/narcissism.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:19 PM (XeU6L)

Not to mention He never figured out how to work with Congress or bothered to want to learn. He demanded everyone bend over and kiss His ass because He was President. I’m surprised He never tried to dissolve Congress and rule America by decree.

Posted by: Cos Demon at July 05, 2026 01:26 PM (4g5V+)

120 In my stamp collection I have some old stamps from the time that contain sections of the Preamble.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Here's pic of all four stamps; https://shorturl.at/92XPr

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:29 PM (XeU6L)

121 "Number Seven will shock you."

obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither

We are clearly of two minds on this one anymore.
Requires a lot of chewing to swallow in our current situation.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 05, 2026 01:31 PM (zdLoL)

122 I'm late to the thread and this may have been said already but to me the most important fact about the Declaration is the decalration that our rights come from God, not from man. Man can - and does - take away rights at a whim, but those given by God can never LEGITIMATELY be taken away. That gives the fight against oppression and tyranny a moral dimension that cannot be overcome - legitimately - again.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at July 05, 2026 01:32 PM (JDH8J)

123 I’m surprised He never tried to dissolve Congress and rule America by decree.
Posted by: Cos Demon
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Don't forget his proposal of a National police force.

" we need a “civilian national security force” that is “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:33 PM (XeU6L)

124
...thinks he's fightin' The Man as he comfortably enjoys a holiday in a nice, safe neighborhood.
Posted by: Lizzy

*********

Heh. I always enjoyed this commercial:

https://youtu.be/ZG-VB5xb6KM

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 01:33 PM (2Ez/1)

125 Obama was so destructive because he hates America and everything it stands for. I think Clinton loves America he just happens to be a hedonistic narcissist with very little self control

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 05, 2026 01:33 PM (26GAh)

126 Harlan Ellison said: "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." It seems that hydrogen may move to second place.

Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 05, 2026 01:33 PM (z6ONu)

127 "The road to liberty" series of videos of about five minutes each on what lead to the revolution. Prager U videos:

https://tinyurl.com/3uccn6ps

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 01:35 PM (daUIH)

128 Just as Hamas treats the Geneva Conventions as a bucket list, Democrats take the Declarations list of Grievances as their Todo list.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at July 05, 2026 01:35 PM (j7INY)

129 Who names their kid Folarin?

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 05, 2026 01:36 PM (2Ez/1)

130 > Don't forget his proposal of a National police force.

" we need a “civilian national security force” that is “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military?
----------
Every Federal agency/bureau/department has an armed, paramilitary group. Education, for example, has, or had a massive, well funded military group armed with military grade small arms and MRAPs.

All Obama had to do was activate the various groups and he'd have his private army. Why he didn't is debatable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 01:37 PM (jehhT)

131 Remember, the Left doesn't give a shiny shit about stolen land.

They want it for themselves, and would take it forever without remorse.

It's a cudgel, nothing more.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 01:38 PM (vE0+H)

132 Don't forget his proposal of a National police force.

" we need a “civilian national security force” that is “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:33 PM (XeU6L)

And in the ensuing day, they removed it from the speech transcript. Curious.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 01:40 PM (vE0+H)

133 Andy Reid, head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, joined this morning's patriotic episode of Music and the Spoken Word, and his wife sang with the Choir.

Enjoy!

http://bit.ly/3SBgToS

Posted by: Half Dozen at July 05, 2026 01:40 PM (wmpJF)

134 Remember, the Left doesn't give a shiny shit about stolen land.

They want it for themselves, and would take it forever without remorse.

It's a cudgel, nothing more.
Posted by ...

They believe in nothing but raw power.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 05, 2026 01:41 PM (GquHV)

135 They think they can do better.
====

I do not agree with this analysis. I think their understanding of what was done is shallow, ahistorical, and tainted by ideology.


They have no idea and further, don't care either.

They are totally wrong, yet supremely confident.

They turn from history and gaze in the mirror all day. They are Narcissus.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 01:45 PM (RIvkX)

136 98 As far as I could see, the 4th passed uncelebrated in my neighborhood of Providence. No flags or bunting on the houses or vehicles, no general uplifted moods.
Completely disappointed

Having grown up in New England but now long gone, I am neither shocked or surprised.

Posted by: USMCMGB at July 05, 2026 01:47 PM (LNVkW)

137
All Obama had to do was activate the various groups and he'd have his private army. Why he didn't is debatable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

================

My theory: Incompetence and ignorance. He'd need the brains to inquire whether resources already existed and if so how they might be consolidated and activated. WAYYYY too much work. Thank God the guy wasn't energetic.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 01:49 PM (mmrXZ)

138 I think the left prefers a very strict, organized society where everyone "is equal to everyone else." They really dislike personal responsibility and those with initiative.

That this will never be achieved in the way they think never enters their little pea brains.

But it's something the powers that be use as an agitation mechanism to get them to harass us.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 01:49 PM (jehhT)

139 In the words of Critical Drinker, "go away now"!
Posted by: Archimedes at July 05, 2026 12:47 PM (Riz8t)

Dude will be 80 on August 19.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:48 PM (4g5V+)
=====

Male. Chauvinist. Pig.

Dirty. Old. Man.

Both work.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 01:50 PM (RIvkX)

140 Linus I would agree with that

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 01:50 PM (Ia/+0)

141 Clinton and Obama are both traitors. Bill Clinton sold America out in every imaginable way to Communist China. From dual-use supercomputers, to sending Loral Space and Communications to help the Chinese get their Long March rocket through stage three, to encryption technology, all of our nuclear secrets, and MIRV technology to miniaturize nuclear weapons, Bill sold them every single thing they wanted.

Obama just openly worked for America's enemies. His Rules of Engagement in Afghanistan prohibited American soldiers from firing on hostiles if those hostiles simply put their weapons down. His declaration that he would "always side with the Muslims" was entirely accurate. Under Obama, we stopped investigating radical Islam in America. In fact, we brought members of the Muslim Brotherhood in to help write the guidelines for our intelligence agencies. Obama also shipped hundreds of billions of dollars, in cash, to the terrorist regime in Iran.

The entire Democrat Party is working for America's enemies. The proof is all around us.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 01:51 PM (X+xvk)

142 > My theory: Incompetence and ignorance. He'd need the brains to inquire whether resources already existed and if so how they might be consolidated and activated. WAYYYY too much work. Thank God the guy wasn't energetic.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 01:49 PM (mmrXZ)

Yeah. Replace him with, say, MummyDummy or Van Jones and things are likely to get spicy before it's over.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 05, 2026 01:51 PM (IG3/x)

143 My theory: Incompetence and ignorance. He'd need the brains to inquire whether resources already existed and if so how they might be consolidated and activated. WAYYYY too much work. Thank God the guy wasn't energetic.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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The guy had *zero* experience with real life. The same might be said for most politicians.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:51 PM (XeU6L)

144 the 4th passed uncelebrated in my neighborhood of Providence. No flags or bunting on the houses or vehicles, no general uplifted moods."

We made up for it.

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 01:52 PM (cGjQu)

145 It's extremely patriotic to turn a blind eye to the fact that Donald Trump has made more money while in office than any president in history. He's made billions on AI and crypto investments that curiously coincide with his legislation. Similar claims about president Biden infuriated you, but now it's ok.

Posted by: Sid at July 05, 2026 01:53 PM (0HJrI)

146 Can you imagine where we’d be if shrillary?

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2026 01:55 PM (bEwGx)

147
I wonder if there were loyalists back in the day arguing that raping and pillaging was worth being able to get authentic Indian food?
Posted by: 18-1


The succotash was to die for!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 05, 2026 01:55 PM (s9VOe)

148 Marxists H8 our free rights
And freedom to run our own lives

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 01:55 PM (Ia/+0)

149 92 Let me recommend you check YouTube channels by Korean sisters Hana and Ina

I assume it's the same sisters - think I caught their Grand Canyon episode - that was a keeper. Never mind the Canyon itself, but experiencing the freedom to just up and go, drive several hundred miles to get there...

Posted by: MD_Mike at July 05, 2026 01:55 PM (6oVhu)

150 It's funny that the varied crisises that were to doom the administration are now reduced to "his blind trust made money".

That's the Sunday am talking point.

Now ask "how much would that trust be worth if it had the same rate of return as the Pelosi's? AOC? Ro ro?"

Heh

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 01:57 PM (cGjQu)

151
[sigh]

C'mon 'Sid', give us some concrete data. Moreover, compared to most notable Dems, Trump is a piker so far as wealth multiplication while in office. Sanders? Pelosi? Etc., et al.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:58 PM (XeU6L)

152 146 Can you imagine where we’d be if shrillary?
Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2026 01:55 PM
.......

Pfffft. She's a piker.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at July 05, 2026 01:59 PM (2Ez/1)

153
By the way, on what should have been the biggest night of summer, the major shopping and restaurant district of Newport Beach in California had to shut down yesterday. The beaches were cleared by mounted police. I'll let you guess who showed up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 02:01 PM (mmrXZ)

154 FIRST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 02:03 PM (Ia/+0)

155 The right isn't politicizing Independence Day we are celebrating our country but since the left hates our country they'll argue THAT is politicizing it

Exactly. By “politicizing” they mean “celebrating”.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2026 02:05 PM (kYmoU)

156 "they have no appreciation for what those men created: a template for the greatest country in the history of Man.

They think they can do better."

The Loyalists continued to live among us even after we defeated their cause. From the end of the war, they schemed to deliver the Unites States back to their god-king. Those efforts continue. Just as they enlisted the savage indian tribes to help in those early battles, they now make common cause with the islamist savages to terrorize and kill us into submission. It's not that they think they can do better. They think they are better...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2026 02:07 PM (nbLIj)

157 145: being an evil - thing - consumed with envy, hatred and resentment is no way to go through life. Besides, if he were a Socialist, you’d defend his right to make money while lording it over all of us.

Posted by: Cos Demon at July 05, 2026 02:10 PM (4g5V+)

158 130 > Don't forget his proposal of a National police force.

" we need a “civilian national security force” that is “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military?
----------
Every Federal agency/bureau/department has an armed, paramilitary group. Education, for example, has, or had a massive, well funded military group armed with military grade small arms and MRAPs.

All Obama had to do was activate the various groups and he'd have his private army. Why he didn't is debatable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 01:37 PM (jehhT)

I think it’s is despicable and unnecessary for ISDs in TX to have police forces. We have enough fed LE as it is. And He wanted more???

Posted by: Cos Demon at July 05, 2026 02:13 PM (4g5V+)

159 Let me recommend you check YouTube channels by Korean sisters Hana and Ina. Who defected from North Korea and now live in South Korea and have toured the United States.
Their love for the U.S. including the freedom and the food is absolutely infectious.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 05, 2026 12:56 PM (z51w/)

I've been following them for a while. I've nearly been brought to tears by their love of the country and its people. They are amazed by the simple things we take for granted. A trip to Home Depot put them over the moon. The Grand Canyon nearly brought them to tears. Made me see our wonderful country through a new set of eyes.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 05, 2026 02:32 PM (5xuJ/)

160
FFS those black powder muskets were deafening.
Posted by: Don Black


I fired one at a scouting event years ago. Its owner said that I needed merely to brush the trigger for it to fire. He was not joking and, to my surprise, I hit the target.

Very loud it was, though.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) - Humiliate! Humiliate! Humiliate! at July 05, 2026 02:34 PM (s9VOe)

161 160
FFS those black powder muskets were deafening.
Posted by: Don Black

I fired one at a scouting event years ago. Its owner said that I needed merely to brush the trigger for it to fire. He was not joking and, to my surprise, I hit the target.

Very loud it was, though.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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Used to go black powder shooting with friends. One of whom was ex-SS. He generally hit what he aimed at.

I'm thinking about mounting the Griswald& Gunnison in a display box.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 02:39 PM (XeU6L)

162 "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men..."

I find this part of particular importance. It's a direct answer, from 250 years ago, to the common argument that it's stupid to believe in or support the Constitution because "it's just a piece of paper". When you dig a little, what they're usually arguing is that there is no such thing as natural rights, so people arguing for them are just stupid (which inevitably leads to the left's "politics is purely the exercise of power" and "morality is purely subjective" positions).

They like to pretend that patriots believe the Constitution has magic powers or something, but these words make it abundantly clear that the Founders saw natural rights as both existing and in need of enforcement. True natural rights are absolutely real as consequences of the human condition, but enforcing those rights is up to us. And when a government leaves its proper role and becomes destructive to them, it should be dissolved and replaced.

Posted by: Cortillaen at July 05, 2026 04:21 PM (1cPuw)

Book Thread: July 5th, 2026 (MP4)

Trumbull DofI.jpg

Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. It’s time once again for the monthly MP4-hosted Sunday Book Thread. Dress for men, as always, is country club casual. Women are encouraged to wear their best Lilly Pulitzer:
https://tinyurl.com/8n8dd49y

So ask the barman for a cocktail, covfefe or tea and let’s get started!

‘we hold these truths to be self-evident’

By the time this is posted, I expect Independence Day will be behind us. What will happen that day? Nationwide hate-Trump riots? More “No Kings” marches? Democrat politicians of all skin hues and aspirations lecturing Americans about the inherent, inborn, unforgivable evil that is the United States? I don’t know. I do know that the 250th anniversary will be (or was) a sadder, more divisive and ultimately poorer celebration than that of 1976.

During the Bicentennial, I had the pleasure of visiting Filthadelphia, where I saw the meeting room of the Continental Congress (much smaller than that version seen in 1776) and came away with a copy of Edmund Morgan’s The Meaning of Independence, a collection of three lectures he gave in 1975 regarding Adams, Washington and Jefferson. It was the first book I had ever bought regarding the Revolution and to this day I still pick up the occasional volume that catches my eye. Allow me to mention a few:

Spies of the Revolution by Katherine and John Bakeless. My copy is from Scholastic Book Services and is a YA adaptation of their 1959 Turncoats, Traitors and Heroes. It’s a fad these days to write about Washington’s network of spies, but the Bakelesses covered that and more decades ago.

A.G. Langguth’s Patriots: The Men Who Started the American Revolution is, IMO, probably the best one-volume history of the Revolution and one written to appeal to all reading levels, charting the course of the conflict from the Stamp Act all the way to Yorktown and beyond.

For a close look at the Declaration itself, Pauline Maier’s American Scripture: Making the Declaration of Independence is a must-have. She examines not only the writing of the Declaration, but its antecedents, its mirror declarations in various colonies and how, in the 19th century, the document itself was ‘sanctified.’ An appendix reprints Jefferson’s original draft, enabling you to see how and where he was improved or watered down.

Thomas Fleming’s Liberty: The American Revolution was a companion volume to the 1997 PBS series. It’s a lavishly-illustrated book which begins in the aftermath of the French and Indian War, proceeding through the various Parliamentary attempts to squeeze money from the colonies and on into war, victory and the framing of the Constitution.

And, of course, if you happen to prowl used bookshops, you might come across any one of the various American Heritage books about the Revolution, colonial settlement or American history. An excellent example is their two-volume 200 Years: A Bicentennial Illustrated History of the United States.

And I can’t finish without mentioning Westholme Publishing, who specialize in the 18th century and have a companion website, Journal of the American Revolution. I’m looking forward to the publication of City Tavern: The Founding Table by Becky Libourel Diamond.

What about you? What books captured your imagination or influenced your thinking about independence? Will our 300th anniversary be as celebratory as 1976, or are we a rusty clock, winding down to a sad, empty silence?

[A Personal Request:
My new Theda Bara novel, Ten Thousand Midnights, is at reading draft stage and I'm looking for a few people to share thoughts. If you've read my first two, you know the scene - silent star Theda Bara is an amateur detective along with her makeup artist Toby Swanson. The new book has her asked by the LA police to help solve the 1922 murder of Paramount director William Desmond Taylor.

If you're interested, email me at christopherdigrazia@gmail.com and I'll send you a word file and what I'm looking for.]

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1 No real reading again. Must be the weather.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 08:55 AM (1Ff7Z)

2 Tolle Lege!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2026 08:56 AM (c3YdQ)

3 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 08:57 AM (Ia/+0)

4 Women are encouraged to wear their best Lilly Pulitzer

How contemporary for you, MP. Not even a hobble skirt. Are you feeling well?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 08:58 AM (1Ff7Z)

5 From what I have read, that painting has one realistic trivia.
They pulled the curtains to keep the sun out, and the spying

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 09:00 AM (Ia/+0)

6 Good morning again dear morons and thanks MP4 not a lot of reading this week, although I borrowed a new book based on rhomboid's recommendation about naval action in the Mediterranean during WW2.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 09:01 AM (RIvkX)

7 Good morning, Poppins and Horde.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:02 AM (kpS4V)

8 Tall leggy

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 09:02 AM (Kt19C)

9 Word I learned this morning: “tsundoku,” the Japanese term for collecting books and letting them pile up unread.

Posted by: gp at July 05, 2026 09:02 AM (Jr5Lq)

10 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. With the brutal heat this week I had a good excuse to stay in the air conditioning and read.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (yTvNw)

11 I have a large single volume Washington biography I haven't read. A couple of years ago I read a bio of Nathaniel Greene.

Sad to say reading revolutionary books in today's state makes you wonder if they would have done it knowing what miscreants and evildoers are perpetrating on this country.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (1Ff7Z)

12 Morning, MP4.

Howdy, Horde.

Not much reading this week either. Have started Karamazov and am almost a third of the way in, but started feeling like reading something else, so am now halfway through a revisit on A Farewell to Arms which I read who knows how long ago and about which I recall almost nothing. Can't seem to stay with anything really long these days.

Hope everyone's had a pleasant 4th.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (q3u5l)

13 Will our 300th anniversary be as celebratory as 1976, or are we a rusty clock, winding down to a sad, empty silence?
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Without some major changes in demography and policy, we won't make it another 25 years. Our enemies have been fighting 50 years for our destruction while we deny they even exist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (RIvkX)

14 although I borrowed a new book based on rhomboid's recommendation about naval action in the Mediterranean during WW2.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
_________

Cunningham was the shit. The Italian navy was no joke.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 05, 2026 09:07 AM (XvL8K)

15 ... so am now halfway through a revisit on A Farewell to Arms which I read who knows how long ago and about which I recall almost nothing.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (q3u5l)

I recall everything!!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 05, 2026 09:07 AM (1Ff7Z)

16 Morning, Horde...How goes it?

One of the "perks" of an extended power outage is that there's not much else to do besides read.

I finished two books yesterday and started a third.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 05, 2026 09:07 AM (FZ29D)

17 Morning, Book Addicts!

MP4, I'll send you a note today.

As for my reading adventures: I finished S.M. Stirling's first in his alternate Roman Empire series, To Turn the Tide, and am deep into its sequel, The Winds of Time. The setup: In 2032, a professor of ancient history (and former combat soldier) and four of his graduate students are catapulted in time, a second before a fusion bomb destroys Vienna, back to 165 AD, during Marcus Aurelius's reign. The time machine's inventor was killed in the time flip; but he had been preparing to avoid the coming nuclear holocaust. So the professor and his students have some antibiotics, models of machinery and textbooks, laptops and phones -- and knowledge of techniques and technology the world does not yet have.

They are not considered madmen or executed as wizards. They all speak Latin and some Greek, and with the friendship of a Jewish merchant, begin to introduce new tech to the Empire: the wheelbarrow, an improved sickle, saddles with stirrups, and much more. The two novels are rather Heinlein-esque, in that you are being educated in tech and economics while enjoying every second of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:08 AM (wzUl9)

18 Currently reading "The Fifth Heart," by the recently late Dan Simmons (of Hyperion Cantos fame). This was recommended last week on the book thread, and is an excellent story.

Writer Henry James very reluctantly teams up with the Legendary Sherlock Holmes to solve a murder mystery, while Holmes battles heroin addiction and undergoes the existential crisis of not knowing if he is, in fact, a real person, or is merely a character in Dr. Watson's numerous recountings of his adventures.

An excellent premise well-crafted.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 05, 2026 09:10 AM (/RHNq)

19 Sad to say reading revolutionary books in today's state makes you wonder if they would have done it knowing what miscreants and evildoers are perpetrating on this country.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (1Ff7Z)

I think yes, absolutely. But if anyone could have foreseen Marx and Mao, they would have made appropriate pre-emptive law.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 09:10 AM (h7ZuX)

20 Heinlein's early work as collected in his Future History volume, The Past Through Tomorrow, not only showed me what SF was supposed to be about, but also started me thinking about freedom. "You can't control a free man; the most you can do is kill him."

His other works like The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress carried me along in that vein.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:11 AM (wzUl9)

21 Wonderful christopher

Ive been reworking my story a graat romance set in bosnia a colonisl epic set in aden and a caper in marbella thats 60,000 words

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2026 09:13 AM (y3wWc)

22 I recently read an Osprey book about "The New Model Army," Cromwell's army during the English Civil War. (Not directly related to this week's topic, but maybe tangentially related) I generally buy Osprey books for the illustrations, but I'm making an effort to actually read through the books I buy. Alas, there wasn't a whole lot of useful information in this book's text.

But there was some interesting speculation. This was the era when English soldiers first stated dressing in their distinctive red coat. The book mentioned that we don't know much about the development of the redcoat costume; which sent me down a mental rabbit-hole. The red overcoat, that makes a certain amount of sense, from a practical standpoint. But the big lapels along the full height of the coat, the giant cuffs, the colored interior lining, and all the lace and decorations....That all seems very odd. Especially on a common soldier. And yet, at some point, it all made sense for the people who authorized it. Kinda makes me wonder why that all those decisions were made the way they were....

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 09:13 AM (3v7ra)

23 I think yes, absolutely. But if anyone could have foreseen Marx and Mao, they would have made appropriate pre-emptive law.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 09:10 AM (h7ZuX)

It was only around 70 years between the Declaration and the commie manifesto.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 05, 2026 09:14 AM (1Ff7Z)

24 Yesterday was nothing but reading. From cover to cover I finished R A Salvatore's The Lone Drow and The Two Swords.

Read The 1000 orcs a few days ago. Pretty good story and blissfully unwokified.

Posted by: Will Robinson at July 05, 2026 09:15 AM (4a6AT)

25 I daresay that for a lot of us, Independence Day No. 250 was like our previous celebrations. Same parade (my church has a small one as part of our neighborhood party), same party, same friends ... maybe the food is different.

Oh, yeah, same fireworks racket into the night.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2026 09:16 AM (IDILA)

26 I'll second that on Heinlein.

Detoured for a while during and after college into being a good little lefty but came back to my senses after seeing the reactions to Reagan's SDI proposals.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 09:16 AM (q3u5l)

27 Additionally, Stirling's The Winds of Time introduces a conflict. The Chinese government in the 2030s stole the time machine tech from the German inventor and had their own machine and materiel ready to go, when Beijing is hit in the conflagration. A Chinese colonel and several more selected technicians and historians flip back to 165 AD as well, though in China instead of Austria. And they have heard of the new tech and procedures the Americans are introducing in Europe and western Asia.

In other words, as the American professor thinks, they are in for the same division within humanity -- competing political systems -- that led to nuclear bombs 2000 years hence.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:16 AM (wzUl9)

28 I read the YA novel Chasing Embers by Glenn Beck with Mikalela G. Hedrick. After a war, the new world is run by Topos, Inc. Our history and our lives are a series of stories, and who control the stories controls our lives. Day after day, year after year, Topos has told lies to the people. People not only believe the lies, but they cease to care what is the truth. Seem familiar? Sounds like our far left. There is a group of people, the Oarsmen, living outside of Topos' control, and are committed to remembering the old true stories of our history. Lots of action-adventure.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 05, 2026 09:17 AM (VOrDg)

29 Still waiting for Eric Metaxas' "Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World". Supposed to be delivered by this Friday, it's already been delayed once. The demand is high.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 09:18 AM (lJ0H4)

30 I do plan to reread the Declaration of Independence today. Too busy yesterday.

And ...

I'm trying a new approach to whittling my TBR list. Specifically, reading books I've acquired as gifts. So I've boarded "Von Ryan's Express" by David Westheimer.

Col. Joseph Ryan enters a POW camp in Italy and, as the senior officer, takes command and whips his slovenly charges into shape. His abrasive approach earns him the soubriquet "Von Ryan," but the men learn again to comport themselves as officers. But now Italy has surrendered, the guards have abandoned the camp -- and I still have half a book to go. Something's bound to go wrong. And it will likely involve a train.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2026 09:18 AM (IDILA)

31 With the brutal heat this week I had a good excuse to stay in the air conditioning and read.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (yTvNw)

I love it. I've been sitting outside on the porch as much as possible. AC gets too cold for me. So, I get cold, and then I go out in the sauna for a couple of hours, come in and cool off, repeat.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 09:18 AM (h7ZuX)

32 Sorry I'm late, I overslept!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 09:19 AM (qRla/)

33 . . . The red overcoat, that makes a certain amount of sense, from a practical standpoint. But the big lapels along the full height of the coat, the giant cuffs, the colored interior lining, and all the lace and decorations....That all seems very odd. Especially on a common soldier. And yet, at some point, it all made sense for the people who authorized it. Kinda makes me wonder why that all those decisions were made the way they were....
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026


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A method of instilling pride within the soldier, a patriotic sensibility that would make him feel he was part of an elite within an elite, perhaps.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:19 AM (wzUl9)

34 I think there is one thing people are forgetting about the 200th and 250th. The 200th had a bunch of the same type of assholes running around that we have now. But… ack then, things in the country sucked, politically and economically. The 200th was a great excuse to take time to forget all that.

Now look at the 250th. Is the country not in a more prosperous state now than it was in 1976? There’s less of a need for escapism this go around.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:19 AM (4g5V+)

35 Oh, yeah, same fireworks racket into the night.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2026 09:16 AM (IDILA)

It went on a lot longer than usual in the neighborhood last night. I swear one of the people in the area shot off more than the show at the business down the street. I stood in the back yard and saw fireworks coming from every point of the compass. Too many people were doing it, so the police did nothing.*

*Roman candles are illegal here, but the Injuns sell them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 09:20 AM (1Ff7Z)

36 Booken morgen horden!!!
Happy start of Year 251 of the the greatest nation in history!

Congrats on nearing the finish line on Theda bk3, MP4

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026 09:21 AM (ZBho7)

37 I didn't do any reading related to Washington or the Revolutionary War, but I did watch the "Young Washington" movie, which I do recommend. The battle scenes were on par with any big-budget historical epics. Alhtough I leave it to others who are better versed in the topic to discuss their historical accuracy...

It was also an interesting change of pace to see a main character who was actually brought low by his failures. (Aka, Fort Necessity) A real 'second act low point' is rare in this age of Mary Sues and Girlbosses. Anyways, this made Washington's subsequent redemption all the more cathartic to watch.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 09:22 AM (3v7ra)

38 I often think about the men who we would now consider working by mostly candle light at night, to somehow keep a more or less coherent track of what they were talking about at that building we now call Independent Hall. Their was a lot of bickering among the members over what to write in both the Deceleration of Independent and the Constitution. Not unlike we would see today if the document was written today. It wasn't all agreed on what they want to say, and probably some back stabbing among the delegates. And the horse back riding between the states and Philadelphia to get information back and forth.

Posted by: Colin at July 05, 2026 09:22 AM (CiQE7)

39 I got around to Dungeon Crawler Carl this week. I am not a gamer, never have been. I mean, Pong was amazingly high tech when I was at an age when I might have gotten interested in gaming.

But I've gotten interested in this. It's funny, which is a nice change from my usual selections. I feel like I'm in the game, without having to learn how to play it. It's a nice diversion, and I'll keep reading.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 09:23 AM (h7ZuX)

40 13 Will our 300th anniversary be as celebratory as 1976, or are we a rusty clock, winding down to a sad, empty silence?
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Without some major changes in demography and policy, we won't make it another 25 years. Our enemies have been fighting 50 years for our destruction while we deny they even exist.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM

Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome – we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until He ends the game, not us.

Posted by: Robert W. Pratt at July 05, 2026 09:23 AM (4g5V+)

41 The American Revolution is one of my favorite periods of history it was philosophical/idealistic and also about war. History was my undergrad, but don't repeat that.

I enjoy books that cover STEM type topics. I enjoyed Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Deming's Out of the Crisis, a book titled The God Particle by Leon Max Lederman, and a book of essays called The World Within the World, by John Barrow.

I've gotten very interested in the history of math, but haven't had time to devote to it. I do want to say that Euler is among the greatest geniuses to have ever lived, and possibly he is the greatest. My opinion.

Posted by: meh at July 05, 2026 09:24 AM (zZxsY)

42 More prosperous in 2026 than 1976?

Depends on how you measure it, what the criteria and so forth. I’m going to argue some things are better. Mostly a lot worse, and not a prescription for confidence going forward

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:24 AM (yKoRs)

43 Damn. Meant to read more bios on Founders and Founders adjacent at this point…

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:25 AM (4g5V+)

44 Wolfus, I enjoyed that series by Stirling. Kinda reminds me of his Nantucket series.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026 09:25 AM (u/wrI)

45 Read Revolution by Metaxas.

Metaxas is an excellent storyteller and made this latest historical journey through our founding very enjoyable.

Posted by: 13times at July 05, 2026 09:25 AM (fnZRl)

46 A lot of practical choices went into those uniforms -- as into the civilian men's clothing they were derived from. Big cuffs? Those are the parts that get dirty and worn soonest, so you're basically adding a protective layer. Big lapels? SO you can button the whole thing right up to your chin in cold weather. Long coats so the rain will run off and not get into your boots. They were doing their best to create durable, all-weather gear but only had wool and linen to work with.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:26 AM (78a2H)

47 The Little League organization here has a ballpark across the street and south a bit from our house. They had a huge fireworks display last night -- it was terrific.
The whole evening was fireworks around us. That went on until midnight. Our poor cat finally came out from under the bed and slept with me.
The law here is fireworks for only the 3-5th of July, but as soon as the fireworks businesses open up we hear it, and will, for weeks. Just not as much as last night.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 05, 2026 09:27 AM (4VH0B)

48 42 More prosperous in 2026 than 1976?

Depends on how you measure it, what the criteria and so forth. I’m going to argue some things are better. Mostly a lot worse, and not a prescription for confidence going forward

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:24 AM (yKoRs)

The 70s were the era of stagflation, stubbornly high unemployment, and pessimism as a whole abounded. I’m not saying it’s all sunshine now, but would people trade this year for the 1970s? I doubt it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:28 AM (4g5V+)

49 Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome – we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until He ends the game, not us.

Posted by: Robert W. Pratt at July 05, 2026 09:23 AM (4g5V+)
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I see your point, but I probably live at least 25 years in the future from where you do.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 09:28 AM (RIvkX)

50 I think there is one thing people are forgetting about the 200th and 250th. The 200th had a bunch of the same type of assholes running around that we have now. But… ack then, things in the country sucked, politically and economically. The 200th was a great excuse to take time to forget all that.

Now look at the 250th. Is the country not in a more prosperous state now than it was in 1976? There’s less of a need for escapism this go around.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:19 AM (4g5V+)


I'll also say that social media and the fracturing of the MFM monopoly did a lot to sow discord. In 1976, the hate-America crowd didn't have access to the worldwide sewer of Facebook and could only spew their vomitus within their own neighborhoods.

Now Muhammad Muhammad can post "Fuck you, America!" from his cosy Dearbornistan house and tens of thousands of like-minded amplify his message and you're suddenly slapped in the face with the number of assholes living here who would gladly tear it all down.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 09:29 AM (qRla/)

51 H. Rider Haggard wrote King Solomon's Mines as sort of a lark, just to prove how easy he thought it would be. The book became so popular, that like Arthur Conan Doyle, he could not abandon his character due to reader demand. The sequel he wrote next is simply entitled Allan Quatermain.

This story begins with the funeral for Allan's son Henry. As Quatermain grieves, he is approached by Sir Henry Curtis and John Good, who were his companions in the previous story. They both are looking for one more African adventure, and want to explore the legend of a civilization located beyond Lake Victoria. Allan, with nothing to hold him in England any more agrees to one last journey

As the party moves across East Africa, they find their old Zulu friend Umslopogaas, who joins them in defending a mission station before they resume their journey to find the legendary tribe in the West. Almost from the moment they enter Africa, the team are forced to fight for their lives against daunting odds, and to endure overwhelming danger and near impossible situations. This is another rousing adventure story.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 05, 2026 09:29 AM (0U5gm)

52 33 A method of instilling pride within the soldier, a patriotic sensibility that would make him feel he was part of an elite within an elite, perhaps.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:19 AM (wzUl9)

That makes as much sense as anything. That and maybe making them look impressive when on parade and when standing guard around the palace...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 09:29 AM (3v7ra)

53 I was glad to hear a lot of fireworks last night. The Fourth in 2025 was too quiet. As long as your neighbors are willing to defy the law and make some noise to celebrate their nation, hope can remain.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:29 AM (78a2H)

54 I also read the YA novel Paper Towns by John Green. This is the story of a group of teens in their last weeks of high school. Quentin has loved his neighbor, Margo, from afar. Margo is a free spirit and enlists Quentin in an all-night campaign of revenge on her former friends who treated her wrongly. The following morning, Margo has disappeared. Q and his friends decipher clues left by Margo to track her down, missing high school graduation while doing so. Not the best YA book that I have read, but full of action and teenage angst.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 05, 2026 09:30 AM (VOrDg)

55 I saw a pretty edition of the Federalist Papers at the local warehouse club - tempted to get it.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026 09:30 AM (ZBho7)

56 Considering “Independence” is the holiday under discussion , the number of individuals wholly or mostly dependent on government largesse is not encouraging. Industry has been hollowed out. This was a huge problem in 1976 as well. So was illegal migration.

Attitudes were certainly different. No self respecting family man would accept welfare if he could help it. People were proud of the fact they weren’t on the dole. Now? You’re a fool if you don’t steal whatever ain’t nailed down.

Quality Learing Centers. Medical fraud. Home day care.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:30 AM (yKoRs)

57 But there was some interesting speculation. This was the era when English soldiers first stated dressing in their distinctive red coat. The book mentioned that we don't know much about the development of the redcoat costume; which sent me down a mental rabbit-hole. The red overcoat, that makes a certain amount of sense, from a practical standpoint. But the big lapels along the full height of the coat, the giant cuffs, the colored interior lining, and all the lace and decorations....That all seems very odd. Especially on a common soldier. And yet, at some point, it all made sense for the people who authorized it. Kinda makes me wonder why that all those decisions made the way they were....
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 09:13 AM (3v7ra)
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Military uniforms are a fascinating subject, and Osprey Publishing pretty much made a fortune on documenting all of it.

The core purpose is unit/faction identification, so if one side is wearing blue, you need to wear red or something else. Royal troops wore blue, and they still do today. The Household Guard wears blue uniforms. The Royal Artillery wore blue with red facings.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:31 AM (ZOv7s)

58 Thanks for the recommendations, MP4. I always have a tab open for my library when I read the book thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:31 AM (kpS4V)

59 The books that influenced me the most
about The American Revolution were:

Johnny Tremain. (Esther Forbes)
(by far and away - the most influential)

Ben and Me (Robert Lawson)

Mr. Revere and I (Robert Lawson)

Arundel (Kenneth Roberts)

Rabble in Arms (Kenneth Roberts)

I read them all in grade school in the '60's
I now have First Editions of each.





Posted by: retropox at July 05, 2026 09:31 AM (j/x/c)

60 The only downside from July 4: I'm going to be eating leftover potato salad and hot dogs until August.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:31 AM (78a2H)

61 >>> 60 The only downside from July 4: I'm going to be eating leftover potato salad and hot dogs until August.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:31 AM (78a2H)

You must not have a dog or a hog.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 05, 2026 09:33 AM (R+iUD)

62 53 I was glad to hear a lot of fireworks last night.

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Here too! Despite a thunderstorm with lightning, and our local woke town canceling fireworks coz of the heatwave, I could hear a lot of booms all night.
Stayed up past midnight watching the DC fireworks.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026 09:34 AM (ZBho7)

63 46 Big cuffs? Those are the parts that get dirty and worn soonest, so you're basically adding a protective layer. Big lapels?
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:26 AM (78a2H)

See, that's the sort of thing that no book I've read has covered, or even suggested...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 09:34 AM (3v7ra)

64 I read/listened to Remarkably Bright Creatures and All the Colors of the Dark.
I really enjoyed Remarkably Bright Creatures, it was an engaging book and I hear the movie is pretty good too. I'll try and watch it soon, maybe later today.
All the Colors of the Dark was good too, although he could have easily cut 100 pages in the middle. It had very unexpected twists and was a compelling read. It was beautifully written and the language and prose captivating.
I have The Hail Mary Project downloaded to Audible for our road trip next week for the spawn's probably last Nationals competition's.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 05, 2026 09:35 AM (VCgbV)

65 My potato salad's too good to waste.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:35 AM (78a2H)

66 Most of my reading this week has been a series of books from Arcadia Publishing - you know, the outfit that specializes in local history, printing histories of towns, cities, attractions and so on.

Mine have been all book-related - Early Paramount Pictures, Early Hollywood, Santa Monica, Early Universal City and so on - because I need to get as many details right as I can.

I've also got a large map of 1922 LA which I need to spend time with this week, marking out the various spots my characters visit so that I have the geography as correct as can be.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 09:36 AM (qRla/)

67 The Type 56 youtube channel has a recent post about how PLA uniforms went from simple to complex and the short version is that uniforms are a code to tell people within a large organization full of strangers who does what at a glance.

When armies were small (say local militia or feudal levies) everyone knew everyone. There wasn't a lot of technical complexity. Status/rank was obvious ("he must be royalty, he's not covered in shit") but as armies get more technical, more sprawling, units and weapons become more specialized, suddenly you need to be able to quickly tell your riflemen from your "line" infantry, artillerists from cavalry and horse artillery from infantry artillery.

You also need to know who is under your command. The various regimental uniforms seem absurd to Americans, but our armies were traditionally tiny. Then the Civil War came, and what do you know - we started making soldiers wear special badges on their hats and uniform so we could tell which brigade, division and corps they belong do. And still do that today.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

68 That red uniform was certainly impressive, but when I see it I always find myself thinking, "Whoa, bummer of a birthmark, Hal."

200 as opposed to 250? One nice thing about the 70s was that the Dems were not yet importing the third world as fast as they could. They'd laid the groundwork IIRC, but they hadn't pushed the controls to ludicrous speed.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 09:37 AM (q3u5l)

69 64 I read/listened to Remarkably Bright Creatures and All the Colors of the Dark.
I really enjoyed Remarkably Bright Creatures, it was an engaging book and I hear the movie is pretty good too. I'll try and watch it soon, maybe later today.
All the Colors of the Dark was good too, although he could have easily cut 100 pages in the middle. It had very unexpected twists and was a compelling read. It was beautifully written and the language and prose captivating.
I have The Hail Mary Project downloaded to Audible for our road trip next week for the spawn's probably last Nationals competition's.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 05, 2026 09:35 AM (VCgbV)


As is usually the case the book is much better than the movie...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 05, 2026 09:37 AM (u0koz)

70 No need to remind me, I was there in the 70s and it was horrible for a lot of people. It’s sort of moot in a way. Most of the problems were government induced due to currency devaluations and epic deficit borrowing and spending. Just like today.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:38 AM (yKoRs)

71 51 H. Rider Haggard wrote King Solomon's Mines as sort of a lark, just to prove how easy he thought it would be. The book became so popular, that like Arthur Conan Doyle, he could not abandon his character due to reader demand. The sequel he wrote next is simply entitled Allan Quatermain.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 05, 2026 09:29 AM (0U5gm)

I need to read those stories. I've seen a few different movie versions of them (including one super low-budget movie that had me rolling on the floor laughing because the characters walked off to adventure without even a prop-canteen) but never actually read them. I think I have "King Solomon's Mines" as the 'main event' in a hardcover pulp-anthology I bought from Barnes and Noble years ago. Maybe that should move to the top of the to-b-read pile...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 09:38 AM (3v7ra)

72 20 Heinlein's early work as collected in his Future History volume, The Past Through Tomorrow, not only showed me what SF was supposed to be about, but also started me thinking about freedom. "You can't control a free man; the most you can do is kill him."

His other works like The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress carried me along in that vein.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:11 AM (wzUl9)
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I was going to say that Heinlein was probably my introduction to pondering about freedom. One of his juveniles had a team of young adults having to establish a society from scratch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:39 AM (kpS4V)

73 Wolfus, I enjoyed that series by Stirling. Kinda reminds me of his Nantucket series.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026


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I haven't seen those at my local library. I'll have to look around.

Stirling's name first came to my attention with one of his Known Space short stories in The Man-Kzin Wars volumes. I'll have to look and see which one. (No, I did not name my cat for him!)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:39 AM (wzUl9)

74 I read The Declaration of Independence and took my time with it. Reading it the first time was an assignment in grade school with little context, just told it was important. Now I read it with some understanding of the geopolitical, historical and philosophical underpinnings which makes the document even richer and more impressive. I use the B and N "The Constitution of the United States of America: And Selected Writings of the Founding Fathers". It's one of their fancy hardcover editions and provides the basic documents. The selected writings provide a lot of context that is probably ignored in classrooms today.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 09:40 AM (yTvNw)

75 Another excellent single volume book on the Revolution is Angel in the Whirlwind: The Triumph of the American Revolution.

Bobrick and Metaxas are great storytellers.

Posted by: 13times at July 05, 2026 09:41 AM (fnZRl)

76 Speaking of writing, I posted a distillation of our new deacon's homily from yesterday - about prayer and the founding
*points to link in nic*

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026 09:41 AM (ZBho7)

77 No fireworks in my neck of the woods. Not even by private individuals. Didn't hear a single pop. But that has more to do with the red-flag fire restrictions, and the near-record lack of snowfall and drought than anything else. So, while regrettable, it is understandable and actually responsible...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 09:41 AM (3v7ra)

78 We are deep in the crazy years

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2026 09:41 AM (y3wWc)

79 A lot of practical choices went into those uniforms -- as into the civilian men's clothing they were derived from. Big cuffs? Those are the parts that get dirty and worn soonest, so you're basically adding a protective layer. Big lapels? SO you can button the whole thing right up to your chin in cold weather. Long coats so the rain will run off and not get into your boots. They were doing their best to create durable, all-weather gear but only had wool and linen to work with.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:26 AM (78a2H)
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The big cuffs could be folded down to cover your hands. Cheaper than buying everyone mittens or gloves, which would immediately be lost.

And yes, you are correct. The illustrations we typically see (and what reenactors wear) is the "parade/inspection" look, not how they were worn in the field.

Blankets are an interesting example. On the march, you typically want it rolled and lashed to your knapsack to keep it out of the way, but in cold weather, you might wear it diagonally across your back and chest like a sash.

The Prussian Army also "rolled blankets" when going into action because it added extra protection against bullets and bayonets.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:42 AM (ZOv7s)

80 Thanks for the Book Thread, MP4!

Received Radicalism of the American Revolution by Gordon S. Wood. Looking forward to reading it.

Here's to at least another 250 years for the U.S.A.!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 05, 2026 09:42 AM (D/6p1)

81 Families were still largely intact, out of wedlock births, welfare, dysfunctional social systems.

The rot has spread far and wide and there’s nowhere to run, (which was something leftists had on their radar)

Sorry, I’ll stop being a Debbie Downer. We have much to be thankful for! It’s just tragic that all this shit was avoidable.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:42 AM (yKoRs)

82 Speaking of Gen. Washington's spies --

I never had heard of his Culper Ring until Vertigo Comics published its adventure series Y: The Last Man.

The premise was that somehow every male creature on Earth suddenly died except one guy (I don't recall his name) and his pet Caupachin, Ampersand. (His name I do recall.)

This sounds like the basis for a sex comedy, but it is treated with deadly seriousness. No males -- no continuing food supply, for openers.

How does the Culper Ring figure in this? The agency has been operating all this time, and its Agent 355 shows up to help the last man, who is trying to find his girlfriend while not being discovered to be a man, which would make his life a worse hell. Not only would every government want him, there's a band of Amazons who are out to finish the job.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2026 09:42 AM (p/isN)

83 I was going to say that Heinlein was probably my introduction to pondering about freedom. One of his juveniles had a team of young adults having to establish a society from scratch.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026


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Oh, that's right -- Tunnel in the sky, where a high school class dropped by matter transmitter on a wild alien planet as a field exercise gets stranded, and have to survive and build their own small society. Maybe it was RAH's direct answer to Golding's Lord of the Flies? Golding's book appeared the year before Heinlein's.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:43 AM (wzUl9)

84 What good does a Stovepipe hat (or a bowler) do for the Sun? Seems like headgear wasn’t always practical. And hats were expensive. Clothing in general, cost a fortune. They didn’t have sweatshops in Honduras

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:44 AM (yKoRs)

85 63 46 Big cuffs? Those are the parts that get dirty and worn soonest, so you're basically adding a protective layer. Big lapels?
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:26 AM
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I assume lapels can be folded up and pinned to form a collar for warmth. The narrowness or hangglideryness depends on how a Beau Brummell defines the fashion for that time period.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:45 AM (kpS4V)

86 I love those Arcadia Publishing books! I buy them at garage sales or thrift stores whenever I see them, because they are kinda pricey for what they are.
Looking at all the old architecture, and the downtowns/neighbor hoods of days past makes me think about all the hopes and dreams those builders and citizens and storekeepers had for the future of their city/neighborhood/country.

It's sad when I see what the downtown was like, in say, Adrian, MI, near where we lived. They really had it going on, with manufacturing, society things, retail -- beautiful buildings. A sense of pride shows through in the photos. And then drive through the same area today, or even 25 years ago, and it's just sad. I'm glad the founders and builders and dreamers of that bustling town did not live to see what it has become.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 05, 2026 09:45 AM (4VH0B)

87 I finished Three m’en on the Bummel, this week. Not as good as Three Men in a Boat. They should have brought Mntmorency along. Made no progress on One of Ours. Maybe this week. Started Nick Tosche.s bio of Dean Martin. Not at all happy with his writing style but still interested in the story he’s telling so I will soldier on.

Posted by: Who Knew at July 05, 2026 09:45 AM (0QMbS)

88 Here too! Despite a thunderstorm with lightning, and our local woke town canceling fireworks coz of the heatwave, I could hear a lot of booms all night.
Stayed up past midnight watching the DC fireworks.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026 09:34 AM (ZBho7)
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We had a thunderstorm hit right after sunset, but it pushed through quickly and as soon as the rain was gone, there was an eruption of man-made thunder from all sides. It was great. There was still lighting in the distance - God joining in the celebration!

I went for a bigger display this year, and everyone loved it. I'll improve on it next year. Lots of heavy stuff going up in my liberal college town, which bodes well for the future.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:45 AM (ZOv7s)

89 MP4, thanks for today's book thread.

Anybody have an opinion on Gordon Wood? It seems I see his name a few times with regards to books about the Revolutionary War.

Posted by: dantesed at July 05, 2026 09:45 AM (Oy/m2)

90 67 The Type 56 youtube channel has a recent post about how PLA uniforms went from simple to complex and the short version is that uniforms are a code to tell people within a large organization full of strangers who does what at a glance.

You also need to know who is under your command. The various regimental uniforms seem absurd to Americans, but our armies were traditionally tiny. Then the Civil War came, and what do you know - we started making soldiers wear special badges on their hats and uniform so we could tell which brigade, division and corps they belong do. And still do that today.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

IIRC the PLA actually tried to not have a rank structure at all under Mao. The mind boggles as to how that would actually work.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:46 AM (4g5V+)

91 84 What good does a Stovepipe hat (or a bowler) do for the Sun? Seems like headgear wasn’t always practical. And hats were expensive. Clothing in general, cost a fortune. They didn’t have sweatshops in Honduras
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:44 AM (yKoRs)

Boonies FTW.

When I was deployed, I was not sent downrange with one. I ordered one online straightaway.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:47 AM (4g5V+)

92 MP4. Glad to hear about your progress on the new Theda Bara, I throughly enjoyed the first two and am looking forward to the new one

Posted by: Who Knew at July 05, 2026 09:48 AM (0QMbS)

93 Another excellent single volume book on the Revolution is Angel in the Whirlwind: The Triumph of the American Revolution.

I have that as well as Gordon S Wood's The American Revolution: A History (190 pages) and Bruce Lancaster's The American Revolution (American Heritage Library, 368 pages).

And since I live in Massachusetts, I have a fondness for pre-revolutionary works about Boston. I'm slowly making my way through Brian Deming's dense Boston and the Dawn of American Independence.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 09:48 AM (qRla/)

94 Drinking coffee from my Philadelphia Starbucks coffee cup.

Going through 1989 cured me of my Eeyore tendencies. If we want them to, great things will happen. On to 2276 and beyond.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:49 AM (4g5V+)

95 "Sorry, I’ll stop being a Debbie Downer. We have much to be thankful for! It’s just tragic that all this shit was avoidable."

I wonder if it was. Envy and sloth lie at the heart of a lot of that crap, and I can't see those aspects of human nature ever being completely eliminated. Suppressed for a while and discouraged maybe, but never completely eliminated. Without them the left would be laughed off the world stage whenever it showed up.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 09:49 AM (q3u5l)

96 Also reading Life and Fate by Vasily Grossman.

"The structure of Life and Fate is similar to that of War and Peace: the life of a whole society is evoked by means of a large number of different sub-plots centered around one family."

Posted by: 13times at July 05, 2026 09:51 AM (fnZRl)

97 Books can have pictures. Pictures can be boobs. Or dogs.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2026 09:51 AM (Kt19C)

98 It’s just tragic that all this shit was avoidable.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:42 AM (yKoRs)
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I don't think it was. I think every generation has its own follies and societies regularly repeat the same mistakes because we are all fallible. Humans are not perfectible, certainly not in a secular sense.

But just as virtues can go into eclipse, so can vices, and so hard time make harder people. I'm actually thrilled at the state of affairs, particularly the speed with which society reversed itself regarding trans crap and other issues.

The 1970s objectively sucked. They were ugly and depressing. There were some bright spots (burning the bra being one of the biggest), but there was a lot wrong and I think the Bicenntennial was a brief attempt to cheer everyone up. Then we got Jimmy Carter. Ugh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

99 IIRC the PLA actually tried to not have a rank structure at all under Mao. The mind boggles as to how that would actually work.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:46 AM (4g5V+)
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They did, briefly. It did not work. Rank isn't just to establish hierarchy, ya damn hippiecommies.

It was about as practical as "Red means GO!" for traffic lights.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:51 AM (kpS4V)

100 Both a stovepipe/top hat and a bowler put lots of air space above your head inside the hat -- just like pith helmets and "sun helmets" for tropical protection. In their earliest versions both hats had pretty wide brims -- they got narrower as the hats became purely items of fashion. Look at a picture of Lincoln in his famous stovepipe hat and the brim is at least 3-4 inches wide.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:52 AM (78a2H)

101 I started reading the first Flavia de Luce book. She is only 11 so I'm going to say it's a children's/YA book. Not bad through the first chapter.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 05, 2026 09:52 AM (VCgbV)

102 Also influential Revolution books (read in grade school)

Drums (James Boyd).

I don't have a First Edition of it with the N.C. Wyeth illustrations. Yet.

And, I note, that N. C. Wyeths art was also a large influence on me. We had a 'coffee table' book of his art when I was a kid - hugely influential.

I still get apprehensive when I see a picture
of 'Blind Pew' (from Treasure Island - also a favorite book of Colonial times)

Posted by: retropox at July 05, 2026 09:53 AM (j/x/c)

103 Started Nick Tosche.s bio of Dean Martin. Not at all happy with his writing style but still interested in the story he’s telling so I will soldier on.

Tosches is very much and acquired taste. I've read that book, but while it's thorough, it ends up fairly depressing and cynical.

You might want to at least dip into William Schoell's Martini Man: The Life of Dean Martin.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 09:53 AM (qRla/)

104 Also on my TBR pile . . . well, there isn't much from the library. The Lords of Creation, the third in S.M. Stirling's alternate Solar System series; and Life Stories: Profiles From the New Yorker, David Remnick, ed. I've dipped into the latter to read the profiles of Brando (by Truman Capote), Johnny Carson (Kenneth Tynan), Hemingway, and Richard Pryor. And the comic skewering of Henry Luce, founder of Time, using the kind of prose Time itself created ("Backward ran sentences until reeled the mind").

There is one other I want to check out, the profile of Roseanne Barr.

Otherwise I have a couple of early William Goldman novels Just Some Guy sent me!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:53 AM (wzUl9)

105 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 05, 2026 09:53 AM (2Ez/1)

106 What good does a Stovepipe ..

Storing documents and rabbits?

Posted by: 13times at July 05, 2026 09:54 AM (fnZRl)

107 I wonder if it was. Envy and sloth lie at the heart of a lot of that crap, and I can't see those aspects of human nature ever being completely eliminated. Suppressed for a while and discouraged maybe, but never completely eliminated. Without them the left would be laughed off the world stage whenever it showed up.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 09:49 AM (q3u5l)
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This being the Book Thread, I will note that a lot of nonsense we deal with today is not new. G.K. Chesterton addressed it, as did Evelyn Waugh. Orwell was more political, but others focused on social fads which are drearily familiar.

Heck, even Dickens created characters we would immediately recognize, like Mrs. Jellby, who obsesses about foreign kids while neglecting her own. Nothing is new.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)

108 One of my favorites, acquired during a visit to Colonial Williamsburg, is Mr. Revere and I by Robert Lawson. Revere's ride from the perspective of his horse, Sherry. It's YA and mostly lighthearted but does not shy away from unpleasantness and the reality of the times. I especially appreciate that Sherry starts off being a very conforming British horse but makes her own decision to support the colonials and it makes sense. Features very nice pen and ink illustrations by the author, who also wrote Ferdinand.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 05, 2026 09:55 AM (LuunY)

109 It was about as practical as "Red means GO!" for traffic lights.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:51 AM (kpS4V)

You make a joke, but the PM of the PRC had to intervene to prevent the Red Guards from doing exactly that with traffic lights. (Or maybe you already knew that?)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:55 AM (4g5V+)

110 The simple idea of literacy has failed.

The survey, first spotted by the Economist, tested around 160,000 people of all ages, across all 38 member states. It found that across all OECD member countries, a full 8 percent of college students are reading at the level of a ten-year-old, if not worse. While countries like Germany and France rang in at under 5 percent, countries like Poland, Israel, and the United States blew the curve at 21, 20, and 14 percent, respectively.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 05, 2026 09:57 AM (/+uur)

111 MP4, I'm not a good choice for a proof/beta reader because I am much too forgiving of authors but I am looking forward to publication. Congrats and best wishes.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 09:57 AM (vTZFs)

112 It’s just tragic that all this shit was avoidable.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:42 AM (yKoRs)

*Ponders the Old Testament, and the many blessings and opportunities that God gave His people, and the many times they screwed that up, and the ensuing forgiveness and wins, and etc.

Now today, where commies are winning certain seats, but most of America has had it with their BS. I think it's going to be all right. Pendulum swings.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 09:58 AM (h7ZuX)

113 and I can't see those aspects of human nature ever being completely eliminated.
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That’s not the point. Of course they can’t be eliminated. The government encourages it now, that’s the problem.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 05, 2026 09:58 AM (yKoRs)

114 IIRC the PLA actually tried to not have a rank structure at all under Mao. The mind boggles as to how that would actually work.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:46 AM (4g5V+)
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The PLA did not have ranks initially, but because it was small, that wasn't an issue. During the civil war, they were able to get by because the core leadership knew each other so well, and also it was just masses of light infantry, fighting exhausted conscripts.

When it tried to modernize, it adopted Soviet ranks and then ran wild, creating crazy different branches. That army never saw any action, however, because as part of the Cultural Revolution, Mao forced the PLA to "revert" to the old system, which was a complete shitshow, leading to humiliations against both the Soviets and the Vietnamese.

Then the ranks came back.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 09:58 AM (ZOv7s)

115 Looks like it's gonna rain off and on today. Better huddle inside with a stack of books.

Thanks to whoever recommended "The Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires" by Grady Hendrix. It's a hoot and genuinely scary. Grady also wrote "Horrorstör", about an IKEA-esque big box store where strange things are afoot.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:59 AM (kpS4V)

116 Heck, even Dickens created characters we would immediately recognize, like Mrs. Jellby, who obsesses about foreign kids while neglecting her own. Nothing is new.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026


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I wish I liked Dickens on the page better. His prose is rather dense. But his characters are timeless, as are their names. Few authors have ever named characters as well as Dickens and Shakespeare did: Sairey Gamp, Lady Dedlock, Sir Toby Belch, and Sir Andrew Aguecheek, to name just four.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:59 AM (wzUl9)

117 Hillsdale College has a nice summary of the Revolution on utube, called American Revolution, and has Tom Selleck narrating.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 05, 2026 09:59 AM (pMl/x)

118 Two of my favorite YA books were about the Revolutionary war:

"The Reb and the Redcoats" by Constance Savery and "The Sherwood Ring" by Elizabeth Pope.

TR&R is about some British children living with their Uncle Lawrence, who is back from the war in America. He is given custody of an America POW, who strikes up a friendship with the children -while all the time trying to figure out how to escape to France.

TSR is about a young modern American woman who lives with her uncle in the family mansion in New York state. A British researcher who comes to look into the local history and sparks her interest in the War - then four ghosts from the Revolutionary War era each appear to tell her about what really happened in the area.

Posted by: Wethal at July 05, 2026 10:00 AM (gihWY)

119 Don't even get me started on uniforms and equipment.

I've got all I can handle right now with flags.

Posted by: Sheldon Cooper at July 05, 2026 10:00 AM (kK7U2)

120 Grady also wrote "Horrorstör", about an IKEA-esque big box store where strange things are afoot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,

I enjoyed leafing through that - the Ikea-ish catalog format was brilliant.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2026 10:01 AM (u/wrI)

121 In their earliest versions both hats had pretty wide brims -- they got narrower as the hats became purely items of fashion. Look at a picture of Lincoln in his famous stovepipe hat and the brim is at least 3-4 inches wide.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:52 AM (78a2H)
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Elaborate clothing was a valuable status symbol. One of the aspirations of lower class people was to own a suit and hat, or a nice dress. Buying a wedding gown (a one-use item) was conspicuous consumption.

We've generally lost that idea, substituting cars and electronics (but retaining jewelry and watches).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:02 AM (ZOv7s)

122 Thanks to whoever recommended "The Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires" by Grady Hendrix. It's a hoot and genuinely scary. Grady also wrote "Horrorstör", about an IKEA-esque big box store where strange things are afoot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026


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That was me, Eris. I'll look for more of Hendrix's stuff on my next library flyby. It sounds to me like he produces just the kind of stories I like to read and write.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:02 AM (wzUl9)

123 Reading Malcolm Guite's "Galahad and the Grail" epic poem has had (considering it's me) predictable side effects.
1 - I'm collecting some of the literature of the King Arthur legends, both historical like Le Morte D'Arthur and recent like Roger Lancelyn Green's "King Arthur and His Knights". There is a strong connection of the Arthur story with several of the Inklings.
2 - Dealing with the period of the early tales, roughly 12th century, has led to other writing from that period which is how I learned about Hildegard of Bingen. She is turning out to be one of the most extraordinary people, of any period, who ever lived. I have to learn more about her.
3 - All of this has led to a new appreciation of what the medieval religious orders preserved and created while much of the West was floundering in the dark.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 10:03 AM (yTvNw)

124 Grady also wrote "Horrorstör", about an IKEA-esque big box store where strange things are afoot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 09:59 AM (kpS4V)

That was a ridiculous horror romp. Putting "Southern Book Club..." on my library list now.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 10:04 AM (h7ZuX)

125 Hats, up to 1960s but going back centuries was a necessity daily wear. Look at these old movies of city steer life, most men woill be wearing hats. At a recent office refurbished their was a wall size photo of very early 1900s with has to be a thousand people in the picture. Very few didn't have a hat on, we actually tried to count and it isn't many.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 10:04 AM (Ia/+0)

126 Insignia and indications of rank may have been necessary, but IIRC, stripes and bars were often removed when a unit was out in the field so that an enemy couldn't easily tell who was in charge. And God help the man who saluted a superior out in the field and marked him for possible snipers.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 10:04 AM (q3u5l)

127 118 Two of my favorite YA books were about the Revolutionary war:

"The Reb and the Redcoats" by Constance Savery and "The Sherwood Ring" by Elizabeth Pope.

Thanks, Wethal!
Did not know of those two.

Posted by: retropox at July 05, 2026 10:05 AM (j/x/c)

128 I wish I liked Dickens on the page better. His prose is rather dense. But his characters are timeless, as are their names. Few authors have ever named characters as well as Dickens and Shakespeare did: Sairey Gamp, Lady Dedlock, Sir Toby Belch, and Sir Andrew Aguecheek, to name just four.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 09:59 AM (wzUl9)
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Waugh of course loathes Dickens (most English do, and find America's fondness of him just one more example of our low culture), but he also does the fun naming thing, particularly in his "smart set" novels.

His newspapers are Daily Brute, the Daily Beast (yes, that's where it comes from), the Daily Excess - and the editors are Lord Copper and Lord Zinc (how they made their money, natch) and of course there is Lady Metroland, etc.

Though more rooted in "our" world, Brideshead Revisted and Sword of Honour do contain some nods to his earlier works.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:06 AM (ZOv7s)

129 100 Both a stovepipe/top hat and a bowler put lots of air space above your head inside the hat -- just like pith helmets and "sun helmets" for tropical protection. In their earliest versions both hats had pretty wide brims -- they got narrower as the hats became purely items of fashion. Look at a picture of Lincoln in his famous stovepipe hat and the brim is at least 3-4 inches wide.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 09:52 AM (78a2H)
Recommended by his dermatologist. Unfortunately Lincoln was not wearing his hat when he was shot.

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2026 10:08 AM (LHPAg)

130 Last night I had a startling example of just how bad AI can be. I had occasion to search for a street here in town, "Dorgenois," as one of Miss Linda's genealogy sources indicated that it once was named "Dolhonde." The Qwant "Flash Answer" told me that Dorgenois Street is part of the Lower Garden District, that it runs between St. Charles and Lafayette Streets, is parallel to Jackson Avenue, and is lined with historic and often stately homes.

Not a single one of those sentences is true. The entire thing was hilariously, and yet frighteningly, inaccurate.

Beware.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:09 AM (wzUl9)

131 I have bought but only just begun to read Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep by Paul Tremblay. Obviously inspired, at least in part, by Philip K. Dick, it's about Julia Flang, a twenty-something former semi-professional gamer offered a temp job with a payday she can’t refuse, to chaperone a man in a vegetative state—one with proprietary AI implanted in his head—from California to the East Coast using a video game like controller.




Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:09 AM (ndZc7)

132 I'm collecting some of the literature of the King Arthur legends, both historical like Le Morte D'Arthur and recent like Roger Lancelyn Green's "King Arthur and His Knights". There is a strong connection of the Arthur story with several of the Inklings.

You might enjoy Mike Ashley's The Mammoth Book of King Arthur. He covers the candidates for the historical Arthur, the evidence for his existence and then takes a dive into the legend itself and its accretions before going on to a survey of Arthurian movies and novels.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 10:10 AM (qRla/)

133 I read that WWII caused men to rebel against mandatory hat-wearing. Don't know if that's true, but I do recall CPOs' passion for yelling about putting one's damn cover on.

I for one am pro hat.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:10 AM (kpS4V)

134 Insignia and indications of rank may have been necessary, but IIRC, stripes and bars were often removed when a unit was out in the field so that an enemy couldn't easily tell who was in charge. And God help the man who saluted a superior out in the field and marked him for possible snipers.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 10:04 AM (q3u5l)
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That's a very modern phenomenon. With a smoothbore musket, sniper-level accuracy is impossible. With rifled muskets, it became an issue, and that's when US officers began taking their shoulder straps off an pinning officer rank on a private's uniform. The NCOs were still highly visible, not not considered a priority.

Europeans struggled with that, though, and as late as WW I, officers wanted to be identified. The British Army banned its officers from wearing riding pants because the casualty rates were so high.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

135 Grady also wrote "Horrorstör", about an IKEA-esque big box store where strange things are afoot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Horror/suspense is usually not my cuppa tea but that sounds just weird enough to be interesting.

(* looks up on Amazon *)

Ouch, ten bucks for Kindle. OK, maybe later. But it goes on The List.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 10:11 AM (vTZFs)

136 I think one reason everybody dresses like slobs nowadays is simply that clothing is so damned cheap there's no point in trying to dress for status. Even a nice suit is just a few weeks' income for a working class person nowadays. In the 19th century the relative cost was 10x greater, so having _more than one suit_ was a sign you were a gentleman.

We have some artificially-inflated luxury brands which exist basically as a way to advertise how expensive they are, but that's essentially a niche interest.

So most people just dress for comfort/practicality all the time now. How many men don't even own a tie any more?

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 10:11 AM (78a2H)

137 And since I live in Massachusetts, I have a fondness for pre-revolutionary works about Boston.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 09:48 AM (qRla/)

Has anyone ever written a book about post Treaty of Paris NYC? It'd be interesting to read what the British did after they were informed, and finally left. Did they stay in barracks? Still patrolled the city? Get attacked by citizens? Might be an interesting story.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 10:11 AM (1Ff7Z)

138 Hats, up to 1960s but going back centuries was a necessity daily wear. Look at these old movies of city steer life, most men woill be wearing hats. At a recent office refurbished their was a wall size photo of very early 1900s with has to be a thousand people in the picture. Very few didn't have a hat on, we actually tried to count and it isn't many.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026


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Hats were a fashion item, but also very useful: shade from sun, protection from rain, a certain amount of warmth for the head in winter. And no, it is not true that JFK's hatlessness in pictures started the decline in hat wearing. It had been declining ever since WWII. A lot of soldiers and sailors came home from that war tired of wearing caps or helmets or anything on their heads, and began (despite what we see in pictures and movies) declining to wear them.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:12 AM (wzUl9)

139 Grady Hendrix and Will Errickson also co-wrote the delightful book Paperbacks from Hell, a look at horror paperbacks from the 70s and 80s. Worth a look just for the reproductions of some of the covers.

They put together the Paperbacks from Hell series -- reissues of a number of good horror titles for Valancourt Books.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 10:12 AM (q3u5l)

140 Ouch, ten bucks for Kindle. OK, maybe later. But it goes on The List.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 10:11 AM (vTZFs)

Do you use library apps? I read it with Libby.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 10:13 AM (h7ZuX)

141 Maier's books good. Joseph ellis. I still have that same YA SPIES book from as scholastic. Scholastic. Brings back memories. That company really had kids and schools suckered in

Posted by: Jj at July 05, 2026 10:13 AM (X7dyz)

142 I read that WWII caused men to rebel against mandatory hat-wearing. Don't know if that's true, but I do recall CPOs' passion for yelling about putting one's damn cover on.

I for one am pro hat.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:10 AM (kpS4V)
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I think the issue isn't wearing a hat, it's the rules about wearing the hat, which take some getting used to.

Plus, sailors have those gay dog dish hats.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)

143 Again, big thumb's up for "The White Pill" by Michael Malice, for an unflinching history of the Communists in the USSR and their enablers in the West.

How can Malice have a shred of optimism after such an exhaustive accounting?

"It is possible that those of us who fight for the dignity of mankind will lose our fight. It is not possible that we must lose our fight. That is the white pill."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:14 AM (kpS4V)

144 I read that WWII caused men to rebel against mandatory hat-wearing. Don't know if that's true, but I do recall CPOs' passion for yelling about putting one's damn cover on.

I for one am pro hat.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026


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Exactly.

I wear my fedoras in cooler weather, and a straw in warmer. In truly hot weather like now, I'm out in the sun very little anyway, so I skip tossing on a lid.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:14 AM (wzUl9)

145 Plus, sailors have those gay dog dish hats.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026


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There are dishes especially for gay dogs?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)

146 I see there will be a new Little House On the Prairie series. I can only imagine the woke horror!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:16 AM (ndZc7)

147 MP4, if I had the time, I'd buy all the history books you mentioned.

Time. Sigh!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 10:17 AM (y1wyK)

148 There are dishes especially for gay dogs?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:15 AM (wzUl9)
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It is said that sailors first discovered sex, but it was the Marines who introduced it to women.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:17 AM (ZOv7s)

149 Now today, where commies are winning certain seats, but most of America has had it with their BS. I think it's going to be all right. Pendulum swings.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 09:58 AM (h7ZuX)

Hopefully, it end in the breakup of the D party. The only downside to that is the GOPe would think it means they have free rein to continue their grifts.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 10:18 AM (1Ff7Z)

150 133 I read that WWII caused men to rebel against mandatory hat-wearing. Don't know if that's true, but I do recall CPOs' passion for yelling about putting one's damn cover on.

I for one am pro hat.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:10 AM (kpS4V)
I take off my hat to pray, eat at a table, sleep, and bathe, all of which I usually do indoors,

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2026 10:19 AM (LHPAg)

151 George Washington Vol 2 by Douglas Southall Freeman, is my current Revolutionary reading. Lines up with the new movie which I'll see next week. Recommendations above will push some of these titles into sooner than later pile.

Unexpected great read this week is 'Appendix N' by Jeffro Johnson. It's an overview of more than 40 books central to the creation & rules of D & D. Although I'm a space nerd & never truly got into the game, I did spend time with the rule books and made a brief exploration into playing. Appendix focus is on where & how aspects of these books are incorporated into D&D. Lots of pulp novels from more genres than I was expecting.


Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2026 10:19 AM (KaHlS)

152 Ace, I tried to comment on Chateau Lloyd and just got a message that the comment couldn’t be posted is there another way I could DM you,

Posted by: Who Knew at July 05, 2026 10:20 AM (0QMbS)

153 I enjoyed leafing through that - the Ikea-ish catalog format was brilliant.

Now I wish I had grabbed a paperback Ikea catalog when they still had them*. That and a copy of this side-by-side on the bookshelf would be perfect.

* IIRC, they stopped a few years ago but even if I'm wrong about that, the nearest store is 3 hours away.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 10:20 AM (vTZFs)

154 ... so am now halfway through a revisit on A Farewell to Arms which I read who knows how long ago and about which I recall almost nothing.

Posted by: Just Some Guy

I read that as a yute and loved it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:21 AM (ndZc7)

155 I wear my fedoras in cooler weather, and a straw in warmer. In truly hot weather like now, I'm out in the sun very little anyway, so I skip tossing on a lid.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:14 AM (wzUl9)
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For my 40th birthday, I asked my wife to find a hat with a decent brim to give me more shade. She got me a great "crushable" hat that is now alas going to need a replacement. I have several shady hats for yard work and biking. I only wear baseball caps when I go shooting as they mesh well with ear protection.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:21 AM (ZOv7s)

156 132 ... "You might enjoy Mike Ashley's The Mammoth Book of King Arthur."

MP4,
Thanks for mentioning the book. I hadn't heard of it before.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 10:22 AM (yTvNw)

157 I am researching hats right now, in advance of sewing a cap. I have a number of military caps to look at, and I have come to the conclusion that the current US Patrol cap is an incredibly well made and probably over-engineered bit of clothing.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 10:23 AM (rbvCR)

158 Finished book 3 of C.J. Ciarella's Reaper series. Book four is supposed to drop the beginning of August. No idea how long the series is expected to be. It seems to be Ciarella's answer to all the things Inspector has always hated about litRPGs so there's no harem, no explicit sex, and the heroes are trying hard to save as many people as possible.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 05, 2026 10:25 AM (lFFaq)

159 Wore a Tilley T3 Wanderer hat for two decades (wore out 5 hats.)

Posted by: 13times at July 05, 2026 10:25 AM (fnZRl)

160 Ace, I tried to comment on Chateau Lloyd and just got a message that the comment couldn’t be posted is there another way I could DM you,
Posted by: Who Knew at July 05, 2026 10:20 AM (0QMbS)
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ahlloyd (at) hotmail (dot) com.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

161 I need to make a quick provisions run to Aldi around the corner. Back shortly!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)

162 102 ... "Drums (James Boyd).

I don't have a First Edition of it with the N.C. Wyeth illustrations. Yet.

And, I note, that N. C. Wyeths art was also a large influence on me. We had a 'coffee table' book of his art when I was a kid - hugely influential.

I still get apprehensive when I see a picture
of 'Blind Pew' (from Treasure Island - also a favorite book of Colonial times)"

retropox,
Thanks. Just ordered a used copy of Drums with the Wyeth illustrations. Sounds like a fun read and Wyeth is ALWAYS worth looking at. (That painting of Blind Pew scared me in second grade and still does a bit.)

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 10:27 AM (yTvNw)

163 Not a single one of those sentences is true. The entire thing was hilariously, and yet frighteningly, inaccurate.

Beware.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:09 AM (wzUl9)

But, Annunciation and Erato do intersect, right?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 10:27 AM (1Ff7Z)

164 I tried to listen to Three Men In A Boat, but couldn't. I think I gave it a good 40 minutes or so. Part of the reason was because I had just consumed my first installment of the CJ Box Joe Pickett series. After such a fast moving tightly woven tale I just couldn't tolerate the inane British style of fluffy extraneous language and three minute side roads to describe a doorknob or handkerchief.
But thanks, horde for the CJ Box recommendation. I'm about to start my third book.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 10:27 AM (2Ez/1)

165 132 ... "You might enjoy Mike Ashley's The Mammoth Book of King Arthur."

MP4,
Thanks for mentioning the book. I hadn't heard of it before.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 10:22 AM (yTvNw)


Have you ever heard of Dorsey Armstrong? She's a professor of Arthurian studies at Perdue. She once recorded a series of lectures for The Great Courses which I enjoyed very much. You might be able to find them on YouTube - if not, I can always make a copy for you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 10:27 AM (qRla/)

166 Washington’s Crossing by David Hackett Foster
Superb retelling of a critical event and the divine providence behind Washington and our country

Posted by: TG Sam at July 05, 2026 10:28 AM (sFBIQ)

167 Julia Flang, a twenty-something former semi-professional gamer offered a temp job with a payday she can’t refuse, to chaperone a man in a vegetative state—one with proprietary AI implanted in his head—from California to the East Coast using a video game like controller.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:09 AM (ndZc7)

Not again!

Posted by: Spock's Brain at July 05, 2026 10:29 AM (1Ff7Z)

168 Read Our Korean Cousin and Our German Cousin, part of a series of short books intended to introduce American children to other cultures at the turn of the 20th century.

They appear to be written by different people so the writing quality varies significantly. I guess smoothly presenting "info dumps" has been a problem for a long time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 05, 2026 10:29 AM (lFFaq)

169 It's been interesting being in Edinburgh this week and comparing our 4th of July to the Scots Ceremony of the Keys.

For all their gassing and grousing and complaining about the Brits, they do not have an Independence Day to celebrate instead, they have The Ceremony of the Keys. Wherein King Chuck shows up and the Mayor gives him the key to the city and pledges fidelity and all that and King Chuck gives the key back and says, " Oh that's okay, old bean. I trust you! And your pledge."

Not quite the same, is it?

On the upside, they have a parade afterward in full Scottish attire with bagpipes and all and groups like the royal Marines, etc marching along. Impressive and nicely ceremonial, but it's not independence nor a fireworks display.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2026 10:30 AM (qNIhQ)

170 The 70s were the era of stagflation, stubbornly high unemployment, and pessimism as a whole abounded. "

Let's not forget the various terror bombings and other attacks. And the conditions of cities... Times Square anyone?

Optimism here. And the two speeches this weekend were stemwinders...

Posted by: man at July 05, 2026 10:31 AM (XuXeR)

171 157 I am researching hats right now, in advance of sewing a cap. I have a number of military caps to look at, and I have come to the conclusion that the current US Patrol cap is an incredibly well made and probably over-engineered bit of clothing.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 10:23 AM (rbvCR)

I loved the boonies. I hated the fact that the Elmer Fudd cap went away with the BDUs.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 10:31 AM (4g5V+)

172 No need to remind me, I was there in the 70s and it was horrible for a lot of people. It’s sort of moot in a way. Most of the problems were government induced due to currency devaluations and epic deficit borrowing and spending. Just like today.

Posted by: Common Tater

Three words. James Earl Carter.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:31 AM (ndZc7)

173 My dad wore a dark blue Greek fisherman's cap for many years late in his life. Now that I'm retired I'm considering doing the same. But he lived in a coastal area, and I'm planning to spend a lot of time in land locked states, so I'm not sure it will be a good look.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

174 I loved the boonies. I hated the fact that the Elmer Fudd cap went away with the BDUs.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 10:31 AM (4g5V+)
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BDUs were a hassle, but that also made them useful. Two weights of uniform was nice, and also one could idle away time at a staff meeting by comparing levels of boot polish.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:34 AM (ZOv7s)

175 Just wear a lapel pin that says Whip Inflation Now! and that will be sure to fix it.

Posted by: Jerry Ford at July 05, 2026 10:35 AM (2Ez/1)

176
Quarter Twenty,

I'd suggest a coonskin cap instead.

There's raccoons everywhere!

Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2026 10:36 AM (qNIhQ)

177 Three words. James Earl Carter.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:31 AM (ndZc7)
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"Remember when Jimmy Carter put up speed limit signs in metric? Remember when people actually shot the signs down?"

- from Dave Barry Slept Here

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:36 AM (ZOv7s)

178 . I only wear baseball caps when I go shooting as they mesh well with ear protection.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:21 AM (ZOv7s)
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Now here's an issue I've wondered about -- ear protection. I look at old movies and wartime footage with cannons firing and bombs bursting and artillery blasting away and I've wondered if everyone adjacent suffered hearing loss. Was there any kind of hearing protection, and when did it start?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:36 AM (kpS4V)

179 Speaking of reading, the grandkids were over yesterday and my grandson who just finished the second grade read to from his big book of animals and quite impressed me with his skill and understanding.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:36 AM (ndZc7)

180 Well, time to go! Thanks, MP4!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:37 AM (ZOv7s)

181 Have picked back up Lest Darkness Fall, an anthology by sci-fi authors edited by L. Sprague De Camp and recommended on the book thread about a decade ago. The first story is a novella by Frederick Logo about an archeologist sent to posts imperial Rome as Belisarius is advancing on the city. A later story is by S.M. Stirling and I expect it will be about the characters Wolfus mentioned earlier in the thread.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 05, 2026 10:38 AM (lFFaq)

182 My dad wore a dark blue Greek fisherman's cap for many years late in his life. Now that I'm retired I'm considering doing the same. But he lived in a coastal area, and I'm planning to spend a lot of time in land locked states, so I'm not sure it will be a good look.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)


I wore one of those nearly to rags, I wore the flannel down to the woof and warp before I bought a new one. Then I got a wool felt snap brim instead and wore that until I started wearing baseball caps instead. The snap brim is not handy getting in and out of a car, and it is not a hat to wear in heavy brush.

Honestly, I liked the snap brim because it kept my ears dry in the rain. And we all know how important it is to keep our ears dry/

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 10:38 AM (rbvCR)

183 Wearing a fisherman's cap or a yachting cap if you're not near a boat makes everyone assume you're hiding a bald spot. (Example: George R.R. Martin.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 10:38 AM (78a2H)

184 168 Read Our Korean Cousin and Our German Cousin, part of a series of short books intended to introduce American children to other cultures at the turn of the 20th century.

They appear to be written by different people so the writing quality varies significantly. I guess smoothly presenting "info dumps" has been a problem for a long time.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 05, 2026 10:29 AM
***

Is this about me?

Posted by: Your Somali Sister at July 05, 2026 10:38 AM (2Ez/1)

185 For lighter-than-air fare, I'm enjoying Patricia Wrede's delightful Enchanted Forest Chronicles. They've been my bedtime reads. Good to nod off to.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:40 AM (kpS4V)

186 My dad wore a dark blue Greek fisherman's cap for many years late in his life. Now that I'm retired I'm considering doing the same. But he lived in a coastal area, and I'm planning to spend a lot of time in land locked states, so I'm not sure it will be a good look.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

Nobody notices, QT. Hardly ever get a look from anyone when I'm wearing mine anywhere.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 10:40 AM (1Ff7Z)

187 Morning.
I've been wearing US Army Booney hats since 1993. One could say I am unrecognizable without it. I have other hats I use and claim I'm "in disguise" when I wear them.
Over the years I have developed a blocking for the booney that last year I was made aware nobody has figured out how to recreate. Pretty proud of that and I give no credit to the asshole who actually did by snatching my perfectly flat ironed brimmed one so many years ago in Somalia and crumpling it up.
I don't even remember your name, sir. Lt... butterbar dickhead or something like that.
The reason I wear them is safety and courtesy. I am not just only prone to hit my head on things but if there are things I can hit my head on I will hit my head on them. So to not show others how badly my bald ass head bleeds I put a cushion between it and the world.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2026 10:44 AM (HauQh)

188 Wearing a fisherman's cap or a yachting cap if you're not near a boat makes everyone assume you're hiding a bald spot. (Example: George R.R. Martin.)
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2026 10:38 AM (78a2H)

Any man anywhere with a hat on when indoors or on tv, is hiding a bald spot.

Posted by: Norman Lear at July 05, 2026 10:45 AM (1Ff7Z)

189 Good morning Hordemates!
A rare Sunday golf day (I'm usually...well...sometimes in church) so my reading today will be the greens.
BBL!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 10:46 AM (2WIwB)

190 LT Butterbar Dickhead was everywhere, it seemed. He really got around.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:46 AM (kpS4V)

191 One of my pups borrowed my red MAGA hat (gifted to me by another of our pups) and took it to a major progressive and Muslim infested European city last year where his company gave a professional oriented tour to selected employees.

It took only moments for negative reactions to arrive. For the sake of his co-workers, he took it off.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 10:47 AM (y1wyK)

192 The dangers of fireworks and George Washington's response.

https://tinyurl.com/3rpnsnts

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:47 AM (ndZc7)

193 173 ... "My dad wore a dark blue Greek fisherman's cap for many years late in his life. Now that I'm retired I'm considering doing the same. But he lived in a coastal area, and I'm planning to spend a lot of time in land locked states, so I'm not sure it will be a good look."

A Greek fisherman's cap is comfortable, the visor is enough for sun and rain protection, and it doesn't easily blow off in a wind storm. If it's wool, it's also nicely warm but could get hot during summer. If you like it, wear it, land locked or not. I wore one in my twenties and have been thinking about getting another one. It would go well with my white beard.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 10:47 AM (yTvNw)

194 I am stuck in the middle of three books right now. I have to get back to them. One is the memoirs of John Mosby.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 10:48 AM (rbvCR)

195 "Plus, sailors have those gay dog dish hats.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:14 AM"
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*ahem*
Dixie cup hats.

Posted by: US Navy enlisted personnel everywhere at July 05, 2026 10:48 AM (2Ez/1)

196 My cat is chasing a fly around the living room with singleminded determination. It's scary. May I never be in her sights as prey.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:48 AM (kpS4V)

197 My parents were born and raised in western Europe. My father wore a felt Fedora in the winter and a straw one in the summer.

I recall whenever we entered an elevator, when ladies were present, he would remove his hat in respect.

MYSOGYNIST!

The times they have a change'd.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 10:51 AM (y1wyK)

198 165 ... MP4, Thanks for the Dorsey Armstrong suggestions. I have a metric shit ton of Great Courses and will look through them. Also, YT has them along with some of her other lectures.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 10:51 AM (yTvNw)

199 My cat is chasing a fly around the living room with singleminded determination. It's scary. May I never be in her sights as prey.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:48 AM (kpS4V)


It is always fun when I bring a hibernating yellow jacket on a piece of stovewood in the winter. I wind up with three otherwise bored cats chasing it around the house.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 10:52 AM (rbvCR)

200 Frank Conniff is an alleged comedian. I don't know why he's not a bigger star.

Frank Conniff
@FrankConniff
A friendly message to MAGA folks on this 4th of July weekend: you are the most traitorous, unpatriotic, anti-American, insurrectionist pieces of shit walking the earth right now. Fuck you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:53 AM (ndZc7)

201 Speaking of bald men...

Scotland appears to be the Land of The follicularly impaired. I'm not saying that all Scottish men are bald, but I am saying that eventually they will be bald.

For the balding gene has a fierce and terrible grip on and holds Those of the XY chromosomes in thrall.

On the upside, the lassies Hibernia all seem to have gloriously thick hair.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2026 10:55 AM (qNIhQ)

202 OT: what Elon Musk has done -- in purchasing Twitter (X) for $34 billion -- is a tremendous gift to us all.

For example, It seems the only way we'd know that British police abusing British citizens: https://tinyurl.com/45nx8nph

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2026 10:57 AM (VMdmX)

203 Frank Conniff
@FrankConniff
A friendly message to MAGA folks on this 4th of July weekend: you are the most traitorous, unpatriotic, anti-American, insurrectionist pieces of shit walking the earth right now. Fuck you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:53 AM (ndZc7)


Ah, TV's Frank. I read that his dream job was not the MST3K gig, but the time he spent working for Al Franken's Air America.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2026 10:57 AM (c3YdQ)

204 Why yes, I'm sitting in an airport and waiting on a delayed flight again...and bored to death.

Why do you ask?


Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2026 10:58 AM (qNIhQ)

205 But, Annunciation and Erato do intersect, right?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026
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You mean that scene in the '82 Cat People? Yes, they do, just barely. Erato ends or begins at Annunciation, right by the big bridge over the river.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:59 AM (wzUl9)

206 Frank Conniff. Comedian.

Sounds like a real sweetheart. I must remember to not check out his stand-up stuff.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 10:59 AM (q3u5l)

207 OK, folks, I'm going to shower (again) and decide what to do with the rest of the day.

As I mentioned above, if any of you are interested in reading my new book, let me know by Saturday and I will send a file along.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 05, 2026 11:00 AM (qRla/)

208 I know this is meaningless, but speaking of traitorist pieces of shit . . .

Arizona AG says she's pumped about the World Cup. And she's cheering for Mexico.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 11:00 AM (ndZc7)

209 TV's Frank is just a bitter old drunkard, and was always the weakest part of an otherwise very funny show.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 05, 2026 11:01 AM (0aYVJ)

210 You mean that scene in the '82 Cat People? Yes, they do, just barely. Erato ends or begins at Annunciation, right by the big bridge over the river.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:59 AM (wzUl9)

Yes.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:01 AM (1Ff7Z)

211 Frank Conniff
@FrankConniff
A friendly message to MAGA folks on this 4th of July weekend: you are the most traitorous, unpatriotic, anti-American, insurrectionist pieces of shit walking the earth right now. Fuck you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:53 AM (ndZc7)

You’re welcome.

Ingrates always amuse me.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:01 AM (4g5V+)

212
A Greek fisherman's cap is comfortable, the visor is enough for sun and rain protection, and it doesn't easily blow off in a wind storm. If it's wool, it's also nicely warm but could get hot during summer. If you like it, wear it, land locked or not. I wore one in my twenties and have been thinking about getting another one. It would go well with my white beard.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026


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I've been thinking about it too. The pipe would be the final touch!

Steinbeck, who wore a similar cap during Travels With Charley, did warn about wearing a nautical cap of any kind when you are way inland. You get strange looks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:02 AM (wzUl9)

213 Not so surd about WWII ending hats, the 50s are still hat wearing guys

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 11:02 AM (Ia/+0)

214 Naturalfake, playing Spy at the airport is fun. Everybody looks guilty. See that nun there? I bet she's smuggling cocaine!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:04 AM (kpS4V)

215 Naturalfake, playing Spy at the airport is fun. Everybody looks guilty. See that nun there? I bet she's smuggling cocaine!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:04 AM (kpS4V)

It's in her guitar case.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:05 AM (1Ff7Z)

216 Los Tres Stooges do roofing.

https://tinyurl.com/3b5fwuza

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 11:05 AM (ndZc7)

217 The snap brim is not handy getting in and out of a car, and it is not a hat to wear in heavy brush.

Honestly, I liked the snap brim because it kept my ears dry in the rain. And we all know how important it is to keep our ears dry/
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026


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Possibly another element that led to the decline of fedora-wearing. Cars starting in the late '40s were lower in the roofline than pre-war cars. Ones today are worse.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:05 AM (wzUl9)

218 The reason I wear them is safety and courtesy. I am not just only prone to hit my head on things but if there are things I can hit my head on I will hit my head on them. So to not show others how badly my bald ass head bleeds I put a cushion between it and the world.

Posted by: Reforger at July 05, 2026 10:44 AM (HauQh)

Not having hair makes them required.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:06 AM (4g5V+)

219 Not so surd about WWII ending hats, the 50s are still hat wearing guys
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026


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True, but sales were definitely off after the war.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:06 AM (wzUl9)

220 The nun smuggling cocaine at the airport...

Reminds me -- I should watch Running Scared again some time soon. Maybe it's just my juvenile sense of humor, but I thought Gregory Hines and Billy Crystal were hilarious in that flick.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:06 AM (q3u5l)

221 Once I went to a fashion thread and a book thread broke out.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 11:07 AM (2Ez/1)

222 It's sad about TV's Frank. I used to love his comic byplay with Professor Forrester.

I first had an inkling of his douchey proclivities years ago at a showing of a "live" Rifftrax event where he just had to squeeze in a Trump bash for no effing reason.

They just can't help themselves!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:08 AM (kpS4V)

223
Ah, TV's Frank. I read that his dream job was not the MST3K gig, but the time he spent working for Al Franken's Air America.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2026 10

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He's the kind of douche that makes you proud to be part of a group he hates.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 05, 2026 11:09 AM (vS2qG)

224 Once I went to a fashion thread and a book thread broke out.
---/

Be glad it's not about codpieces and penis sheathes. Although we are getting sporran-adjacent. Beware!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:09 AM (kpS4V)

225 The book I would recommend for Independence Day is Clarence Thomas's autobiography, My Grandfather's Son.

It is the prime example of the American Dream and Only in America.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:10 AM (/WQyy)

226 I doubt it was the origination, but I'll always associate "Sudden deceleration trauma" and "cement poisoning" with that movie.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 05, 2026 11:10 AM (Q1AmB)

227 I doubt it was the origination, but I'll always associate "Sudden deceleration trauma" and "cement poisoning" with that movie.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 05, 2026 11:10 AM (Q1AmB)

I thought of that very same scene just now. Heh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 05, 2026 11:10 AM (0aYVJ)

228 I hope the 250th celebrations will spark renewed interest in books about the Revolution and the people involved. Kids' book like Johnny Tremain, personal accounts of some of the battles like crossing the Delaware and Battles of King's Mountain and Cowpens, and the naval activities from battles to smuggling. Also, more interest in George Washington the man. The more I've learned about him the more extraordinary he becomes.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM (yTvNw)

229 You mean that scene in the '82 Cat People? Yes, they do, just barely. Erato ends or begins at Annunciation, right by the big bridge over the river.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 10:59 AM (wzUl9)

Yes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026


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I haven't driven down there in years; no idea if the white block apartment building is still there. Some way I have a memory that says it's not -- the expansion of the bridge in the years after 1981 to build the new span may have required it be torn down. When I get a chance, I'll look!

The zoo scenes in Cat People are neat. The ticket sales/concession stand that you see really existed for many years; gone now, since the zoo is modernized. The cages we saw in the movie were sets, but the entry was the real thing. The house that Malcolm McDowell and Nastassia Kinski live in is still around, I think, on Esplanade or a nearby street.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM (wzUl9)

230 177 Three words. James Earl Carter.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 10:31 AM (ndZc7)
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"Remember when Jimmy Carter put up speed limit signs in metric? Remember when people actually shot the signs down?"

- from Dave Barry Slept Here
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2026 10:36 AM (ZOv7s)

When he left the mortal coil, I think he was approached near the Pearly Gates by an elderly man who resembles me rather eerily, who then politely said to him “HEY ASSHOLE! REMEMBER THE FUCKING GIs? WHERE IS OUR FUCKING PAY RAISE, YOU BLITHERING FUCKING IDIOT???”

(You never mentioned James Earl Carter, Jr, in the house back in the day. Ever.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM (4g5V+)

231
If the idea is to dress "comfortably," then why do so many women wear clothes they look like they were poured into? Not necessarily to their advantage, either.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM (O0L8i)

232
Naturalfake, playing Spy at the airport is fun. Everybody looks guilty. See that nun there? I bet she's smuggling cocaine!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Laughing on the bus
Playing games with the faces
She said the man in the gabardine suit was a spy
I said, "Be careful his bow tie is really a camera"

https://t.ly/mm9sa

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2026 11:12 AM (Cqx++)

233 Reminds me -- I should watch Running Scared again some time soon. Maybe it's just my juvenile sense of humor, but I thought Gregory Hines and Billy Crystal were hilarious in that flick.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:06 AM (q3u5l)

Two movies with the same name. Both were excellent.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:12 AM (/WQyy)

234 I guess they don't care about global warming.

https://tinyurl.com/3mtkf5d6

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 05, 2026 11:12 AM (ndZc7)

235 Until this thread I'd never heard of Frank Conniff. With any luck, after this thread, I won't hear of him again.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:12 AM (q3u5l)

236
Bought the first two volumes of Rick Atkinson's Revolutionary War trilogy. Haven't really started reading them, though.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 11:13 AM (O0L8i)

237 212 ... "Steinbeck, who wore a similar cap during Travels With Charley, did warn about wearing a nautical cap of any kind when you are way inland. You get strange looks."

Wolfus,
Agree about the pipe completing the image. Had to laugh. If I worried about getting 'strange looks' I would never leave the house. There are benefits to being a curmudgeon.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 11:15 AM (yTvNw)

238 If the idea is to dress "comfortably," then why do so many women wear clothes they look like they were poured into? Not necessarily to their advantage, either.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Yoga pants at Walmart at July 05, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

239 219 Not so surd about WWII ending hats, the 50s are still hat wearing guys
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026

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True, but sales were definitely off after the war.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:06 AM (wzUl9)

I do not know how true this is, but I will throw it out there: men who lived through the time - such as my late father - would tell me the #1 reason men stopped wearing hats was JFK. (They saw him going about Presidential business not wearing one and were like “why not us?”

Probably the biggest revolutionary event in men’s fashion in the past…what, 100 years?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:15 AM (4g5V+)

240 If the idea is to dress "comfortably," then why do so many women wear clothes they look like they were poured into? Not necessarily to their advantage, either.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026


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They want you to *think* they are slimmer than they are. Clearly they are underestimating your intelligence.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:15 AM (wzUl9)

241 Until this thread I'd never heard of Frank Conniff. With any luck, after this thread, I won't hear of him again.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:12 AM (q3u5l)

Same. But, everything he said is a patent lie. Is he hiding some perversion? I think we should ask every celebrity who are vehemently anti-Trump/MAGA. I mean, what do they have to hide?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:16 AM (1Ff7Z)

242 Not so surd about WWII ending hats, the 50s are still hat wearing guys
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026

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True, but sales were definitely off after the war.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026
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I do not know how true this is, but I will throw it out there: men who lived through the time - such as my late father - would tell me the #1 reason men stopped wearing hats was JFK. (They saw him going about Presidential business not wearing one and were like “why not us?”

Probably the biggest revolutionary event in men’s fashion in the past…what, 100 years?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026


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Oh, I'm sure it was an additional straw on the camel's back. But the trend had started a while back.

There are B & W pics of JFK wearing and carrying a short-brimmed fedora, and of course in a top hat prior to his inaugural ball.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:17 AM (wzUl9)

243 The zoo scenes in Cat People are neat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM (wzUl9)

What about the pool scene?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:17 AM (1Ff7Z)

244 238 If the idea is to dress "comfortably," then why do so many women wear clothes they look like they were poured into? Not necessarily to their advantage, either.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM
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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Yoga pants at Walmart at July 05, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

Why I hate yoga pants and leggings as pants.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:17 AM (4g5V+)

245 I never saw my father in a hat except his Marine and Air Force covers

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:18 AM (/WQyy)

246 Never saw the non-Crystal/Hines Running Scared.

There was a novel called Running Scared, a pretty dark one if memory serves, in the late 70s or early 80s by Gregory McDonald who did the Fletch books. Not even remotely like the Fletch novels, and while the Fletch series may still be available I don't think Running Scared has been reprinted in eons.

McDonald was terrific with dialog as I recall. Fast, funny, and I think there were long stretches where the speaker was not identified but you still never lost track of who was who.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:19 AM (q3u5l)

247 231
If the idea is to dress "comfortably," then why do so many women wear clothes they look like they were poured into? Not necessarily to their advantage, either.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 11:11 AM (O0L8i)

I can be comfortable.

Posted by: Pencil skirts at July 05, 2026 11:19 AM (4g5V+)

248 Wolfus,
Agree about the pipe completing the image. Had to laugh. If I worried about getting 'strange looks' I would never leave the house. There are benefits to being a curmudgeon.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026


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Well, since I rarely take my pipe outside the house, it's a "moo point." ("It's like a cow's opinion; it doesn't matter. It's moo.")

I wear a collared shirt and jeans or slacks, and cowboy boots, most places I go. If people look and snicker, let 'em, I don't have to live with 'em.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:19 AM (wzUl9)

249 My dad wore a dark blue Greek fisherman's cap...

I had one of those made of some kind of canvas advertised as "sail cloth." You know one notable thing about sails? They get wet. I wore it until it got grungy and then tried to wash it. It shrunk down to child sized.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 11:20 AM (vTZFs)

250 If the idea is to dress "comfortably," then why do so many women wear clothes they look like they were poured into?

Because to some people the most uncomfortable thing is the thought that other people might be ignoring you.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 05, 2026 11:22 AM (vTZFs)

251 TV's Frank? The pasty patsy who willfully submitted to Dr Forester's sadistic and possibly homosexual impulses? That guy?

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 11:22 AM (MWfyi)

252 Now here's an issue I've wondered about -- ear protection. I look at old movies and wartime footage with cannons firing and bombs bursting and artillery blasting away and I've wondered if everyone adjacent suffered hearing loss. Was there any kind of hearing protection, and when did it start?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:36 AM (kpS4V)

They give you ear plugs but nobody wears them, except for when on the range, mostly.

Posted by: javems at July 05, 2026 11:22 AM (zFsEm)

253 The pool scenes in Cat People, both versions, were terrific. But I can certainly understand having a preference for the version with Annette O'Toole.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:22 AM (q3u5l)

254 What about the pool scene?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026


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The Tulane pool was once in the ground floor of the University Center, but that was about 5-6 years before they filmed CP. I think that scene might have been on a set. The use of the streetcar roaring and clanging to make the audience jump right after that, though, was well done. Those streetcars do make a lot of noise.

Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 was jealous of Annette O'Toole; she, Mrs. W I mean, thought Annette was getting the kind of movie roles she dreamed about playing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:23 AM (wzUl9)

255 I'm currently halfway through Eric Metaxas' Martin Luther. So far, it really is a hard-to-put-down page turner. If one is interested in the Reformation, and a peek into the corruption at that time of the Roman Catholic Church, and how Martin Luther became horrified, disenchanted and disgusted at what he deemed a willful abdication by the Church to adhere to the words of the Gospels and how he believed one is granted salvation by God alone, through Jesus Christ, vs. it being doled out by men on high within the powerful church. I'm eagerly waiting to finish the last half. It's very good.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 05, 2026 11:23 AM (qBdHI)

256 Probably the biggest revolutionary event in men’s fashion in the past…what, 100 years?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:15 AM

Also receiving votes:
- baseball caps worn backwards
- men's pants precariously hanging from the buttocks while displaying a generous portion of undergarment.

Posted by: The Fashion Judges at July 05, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

257 McDonald was terrific with dialog as I recall. Fast, funny, and I think there were long stretches where the speaker was not identified but you still never lost track of who was who.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026


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The first novel, Fletch, is something like 70% dialog, and he handled it just as you describe.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:24 AM (wzUl9)

258 Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:19 AM (q3

The non crystal Running Scared had one of my top five movie scenes ever.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:26 AM (/WQyy)

259 I recall Dad wearing dad hats: a cross between the trilby and fedora that men wore in cold weather, as well as the classic ear flap hat that is issued to all men in the upper Midwest.

In sorting through Mom's clothing I found a cute little black satin affair with netting that perched atop the head. If I ever cosplay as Mamie Eisenhower I know what to wear.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:26 AM (kpS4V)

260 Biggest change event in men's fashion in the last 100 years? The Beatles. Nobody wore his hair over his ears in 1962; by 1966 all the guys were doing it if they could get away with it under their schools' dress codes. Followed by the Beatles' ditching the grey suits for what would become standard hippie wear.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:27 AM (wzUl9)

261 I recall Dad wearing dad hats: a cross between the trilby and fedora that men wore in cold weather, as well as the classic ear flap hat that is issued to all men in the upper Midwest.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:26 AM (kpS4V)

Like this: https://tinyurl.com/bddyduu8

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:29 AM (1Ff7Z)

262 260 Biggest change event in men's fashion in the last 100 years? The Beatles. Nobody wore his hair over his ears in 1962; by 1966 all the guys were doing it if they could get away with it under their schools' dress codes. Followed by the Beatles' ditching the grey suits for what would become standard hippie wear.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:27 AM (wzUl9)

I was thinking more clothing than hairstyles…but I can see that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:29 AM (4g5V+)

263 The Avon paperbacks of McDonald's Fletch novels (and his spinoffs with Inspector Flynn as well) had covers with the title, author's name, and a nice grabber of a section of dialog from the book. Who needed a freakin' blurb?

Another dialog-heavy novel: Charles Webb's The Graduate. IIRC, a lot of the movie's dialog was almost straight from the book.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:30 AM (q3u5l)

264 I was thinking more clothing than hairstyles…but I can see that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 11:29 AM (4g5V

The Jelly Roll was the bomb. ---Wally Cleaver

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:31 AM (/WQyy)

265 I recall Dad wearing dad hats: a cross between the trilby and fedora that men wore in cold weather, as well as the classic ear flap hat that is issued to all men in the upper Midwest.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026
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Like this: https://tinyurl.com/bddyduu8
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026


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That's a cap, not a hat!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:32 AM (wzUl9)

266
70 or 80 or 90 years ago society had good models for how they should appear. Politicians, celebrities, executives, etc. dressed well and people tended to follow that mode. Nowadays, all those higher up on the social scale dress like slobs, so it's not surprising that society in general go around in public looking like they just woke up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 11:34 AM (O0L8i)

267 I admit I wear a ball cap almost all the time when out because 90% of the time I'm playing golf,tennis, working out or going to a sporting event.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:34 AM (/WQyy)

268 Followed by the Beatles' ditching the grey suits for what would become standard hippie wear.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026
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I was thinking more clothing than hairstyles…but I can see that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026


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Right; the Beatles going from suit and tie (and those cool boots) to T-shirts, tie-dyed jeans, beads, sandals, etc. Everybody under 25 raced to copy them. (Well, not me, and I knew some other holdouts who didn't.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:34 AM (wzUl9)

269 That's a cap, not a hat!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:32 AM (wzUl9)

I did not know that!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 11:35 AM (1Ff7Z)

270 The Avon paperbacks of McDonald's Fletch novels (and his spinoffs with Inspector Flynn as well) had covers with the title, author's name, and a nice grabber of a section of dialog from the book. Who needed a freakin' blurb?

Another dialog-heavy novel: Charles Webb's The Graduate. IIRC, a lot of the movie's dialog was almost straight from the book.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026


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My copy of Fletch has that!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:35 AM (wzUl9)

271 I want to add to the list of books the Moron-recommended 'Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the U.S. Navy', Toll. A well-written,and very interesting history of the state of our country and our relationship with others in general.

Don't allow a disinterest in things maritime to tamp your interest. The author explores all aspects of social and political circumstances during the period. Probably one of the most interesting non-fiction reads for me in years.

Goodreads review: https://shorturl.at/YWOzI

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 11:36 AM (XeU6L)

272 That's a cap, not a hat!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:32 AM (wzUl9)
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I did not know that!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026


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Well done, OE, well done

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:36 AM (wzUl9)

273 Polynikes at 258 --

Which Running Scared was that? Just checked IMDb and found several by that title besides the Crystal/Hines.

And Jeez Louise, that dark novel by Gregory McDonald was filmed. I'll have to look that one up too.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:36 AM (q3u5l)

274 >>I had one of those made of some kind of canvas advertised as "sail cloth." You know one notable thing about sails? They get wet. I wore it until it got grungy and then tried to wash it. It shrunk down to child sized.

One of the biggest issues with sails and why so few are still made with canvas or some other cotton blend. They don't hold their shape. Sail cloth today is kevlar, spectra or some other manmade material. Holds it's shape better. Also holds heat. Wouldn't recommend it for a hat.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 11:37 AM (viF8m)

275 Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:36 AM (q3u5l)

2006 with Paul Walker.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:37 AM (/WQyy)

276 I have a full head of very thin hair. As a teenager I got a bad sunburn of my scalp early one summer and have worn hats outside constantly ever since. They vary from ball cap to cowboy hat.

Posted by: Cosda at July 05, 2026 11:38 AM (5Mso3)

277 Polynikes,

Thanks. Will check it out some time soon.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:38 AM (q3u5l)

278 I wish I liked Dickens on the page better. His prose is rather dense. But his characters are timeless, as are their names. Few authors have ever named characters as well as Dickens and Shakespeare did: Sairey Gamp, Lady Dedlock, Sir Toby Belch, and Sir Andrew Aguecheek, to name just four.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

From "Our Mutual Friend", my favorite Dickens novel: Mr. Venus, the taxidermist and Mr. Sloppy, so named because he was born on a "sloppy" day.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2026 11:39 AM (lJ0H4)

279 Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 11:37 AM (viF8m)

You reminded me of Summer Rental with John Candy. Very underrated comedy imho.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:40 AM (/WQyy)

280 The film of Fletch was generally pretty good, but I don't think Chevy Chase was right for the role. The actor playing the rich man who hires Fletch to kill him, Tim Matheson, he'd have been better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:40 AM (wzUl9)

281 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:40 AM (wzUl9)

I can see that playing his same character as in Animal House.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026 11:42 AM (/WQyy)

282 *Sail cloth today is kevlar, spectra or some other manmade material. Holds it's shape better. Also holds heat.*
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I prefer aluminum. Has a good strength to weight ratio.

Posted by: Frank Costanza, Festivus consultant at July 05, 2026 11:42 AM (2Ez/1)

283
I can see that playing his same character as in Animal House.
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2026


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McDonald's Fletch had quite the sense of humor, and it showed in his dialog. I think Matheson could have handled it. Of course he was not a "name" as Chase was, or thought he was, at the time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:44 AM (wzUl9)

284 Now here's an issue I've wondered about -- ear protection. I look at old movies and wartime footage with cannons firing and bombs bursting and artillery blasting away and I've wondered if everyone adjacent suffered hearing loss. Was there any kind of hearing protection, and when did it start?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 10:36 AM (kpS4V)

They give you ear plugs but nobody wears them, except for when on the range, mostly.
Posted by: javems
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I wasn't issued any earplugs until I received a MAC-V assignment. I already had hearing problems by then. Totally deaf in my right ear now. I do receive (very modest) VA disability for it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 11:45 AM (XeU6L)

285 Pilot of Delta fight on short approach to Chicago's Midway Airport last evening reports to control tower that the aircraft was hit by a firework.

For those unaware, Midway Airport is located right in the middle of a neighborhood packed with single-family homes.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 05, 2026 11:45 AM (J4Dwc)

286 271 ... Mike Hammer,
Glad you mentioned "Six Frigates" by Ian Toll. It really lays out what it took to establish the US navy, both the ships and the men on them.

Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2026 11:47 AM (yTvNw)

287 For those unaware, Midway Airport is located right in the middle of a neighborhood packed with single-family homes.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 05, 2026[/o]

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No doubt containing people who moved there in the full knowledge there was an airport in the vicinity, and then spent decades complaining about the traffic and the noise.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:48 AM (wzUl9)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 11:48 AM (wzUl9)

289 Agree on Matheson rather than Chase for the casting of Fletch.

Read several of the Fletch books and the Flynns when Avon was putting them all out in paperback. Always pictured Anthony Zerbe in his Harry O - Lt. Trench mode in the part of Inspector Flynn.

Just checked the Kindle store and it looks like the Fletch and Flynn books are still available, at least as ebooks. Not Running Scared, though, and that book was out pre-Fletch (filmed in 72) so probably reprinted only because the Fletch books were hot then.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:50 AM (q3u5l)

290 *the Barrel weeps*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:51 AM (kpS4V)

291 JTB - It may you who mentioned it here. I immediately picked up a copy and enjoyed it. Have already passed it along to a friend.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 11:51 AM (XeU6L)

292 >>JTB - It may you who mentioned it here. I immediately picked up a copy and enjoyed it. Have already passed it along to a friend.

A friend passed his copy to me after he finished it. Looking forward to reading it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 11:52 AM (viF8m)

293 I recently had reason to come across the quote "...from the East of my youth to the West of my future."
I researched it and found it was from Jack Kerouac's On The Road. Am listening to it now. It's a bit frenetic and doesn't really seem to be developing a substantive plotline, but I'll give it a bit longer.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 11:57 AM (2Ez/1)

294 Large groups of people copying a celebrity style is a weird and annoying feature of human nature. But copying a bunch of limey fairies who dress like women is particularly dumb.

One of the few times I ever said or did anything remotely disrespectful to my parents was when I first saw photos of them and their friends back in the 60s and 70s, and just burst out laughing at how ridiculous everyone looked.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2026 11:57 AM (BI5O2)

295 Well, I suppose I should go act like I'm doing something constructive (not that that'll really happen) here at Casa Some Guy.

MP4, thanks for the thread.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2026 11:57 AM (q3u5l)

296 Thanks for the Book Thread, MP4!

One last book: I'm flipping through "An Atlas of Lost Kingdoms" by Emily Hawkins, with gorgeous illustrations by Lauren Baldo.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 11:58 AM (kpS4V)

297 Time I headed off to do some chores myself. Thanks to MP4 and the rest of the satellites and satraps of AoSHQ for another fine Book Thread!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 12:00 PM (wzUl9)

298 Noodus CBD -- the D of I

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 12:01 PM (wzUl9)

299 I researched it and found it was from Jack Kerouac's On The Road. Am listening to it now. It's a bit frenetic and doesn't really seem to be developing a substantive plotline, but I'll give it a bit longer.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty
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Ah. The beat generation. I wonder how a psychologist would classify Kerouac et al. 'Depressive', at best, is my guess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 12:03 PM (XeU6L)

300 Goodbye, Book Thread. See you next week.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 12:06 PM (1Ff7Z)

301 I read Joseph Conrad's The Secret Agent. It was pretty intense; toward the end I couldn't put it down. Afterward I was haunted by the ending. Alfred Hitchcock made a movie based on the book ("Sabotage") which he changed a lot, but used some of the book's dialogue.

Posted by: microcosme at July 05, 2026 12:55 PM (tIOA7)

302 Frank Conniff - aka TV's Frank. For as much joy that Mystery Science Theater 3000 has brought, you have to remember that it was created in Minnesota by Minnesotans. (And we all know what that means...) Then a number of the original creators moved to Hollywood, and the official reboot was centered in Hollywood.

But at least the Sci-Fi-era/RiffTrax cast are generally even-handed with their jokes.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2026 12:57 PM (3v7ra)

303 And Mike Nelson is classic conservative, as well as making a great Morrissey.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 01:05 PM (kpS4V)

304 I enjoyed "1776" by David McCullough. I liked his use of primary sources throughout the book. One that has stayed with me is from the diary of a 15-y.o. drover who helped bring cannons back from Ft. Ticonderoga. Would today's 15-y.o.s be able to do something like this?

My only wish was the maps from 1776 be overlaid with current maps of the area as I had only a vague idea of where some of the battles took place.

Posted by: March Hare at July 05, 2026 03:38 PM (O/GSq)

305 Nice post. I learn something totally new and challenging on sites I stumbleupon everyday.

It will always be useful to read articles from other authors and use something from other sites.

Posted by: bridge game online at July 05, 2026 06:28 PM (pRtM9)

306 I read once that the Book Thread goes all day, so:

For Independence Day I started reading Hackett's selection of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers. So far the Introduction is really good. I especially liked the comparison with Greek and Roman ideas and what was genuinely new about the Constitution.

I recently finished My Family and Other Animals by Gerald Durrell. Hilarious. I didn't think it was actually about animals. My wife has been trying to get me to read it for years.

I also read Two Lives of Charlemagne by Einhard and Notker the Stammerer. That was very interesting! I never realized the connections to the Song of Roland and Charles "the Hammer" Martel. Another detail that stood out to me was how Charles tried to learn writing as an adult by sleeping with a tablet and pen under his pillow, but couldn't train himself to make the motions. It reminds me of St. Paul, "See with what large letters I am writing to you in my own hand." Is the physical motion of writing something that is hard to learn after childhood? Or maybe he should have tried learning while he was awake. . . .

(con't)

Posted by: frammish at July 05, 2026 06:37 PM (rcENI)

307 I'd love to read a popular book on physics that isn't a textbook but still has some math. I'm long sought answers to questions like:

- What the heck is angular momentum anyway? Doesn't it contradict regular inertia? And what is the relationship to particle spin? And what the heck is *that*? And why is it integral (or nearly so)?
- What is an EM wave? Amplitude is measured in volts? It propagates because the electrical potential induces a magnetic force, which induces an electrical potential, etc. (So is potential a force?) But why does it *travel*? Why does a non-polar wave not interfere with itself? Or does it?
- And for a sound wave, amplitude is measured in . . . pressure? Or also volts, if you convert it, someone told me. So that's interesting.
- What is inductance? (Maybe it would be better to just play with how it's used in practical circuits first.)

Anyone in the Horde have a recommendation?

Posted by: frammish at July 05, 2026 06:43 PM (rcENI)

308 Hi, frammish.

I have no recs. Just wanted to say, hey!

Putting Two Lives of Charlemagne on my list, looks interesting.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 07:42 PM (h7ZuX)

309 Hi Dash! It delights me that someone answered.

You should read it. It's really short.

I forget why I bought it. It sat on my shelf for several months. Some connection with the Muslim invasion I think. But also Charlemagne has always been a "buy guy" to certain Orthodox Christians, and I personally am less inclined to view Western Christendom as an Enemy, so that also made me curious. And any time I read something from long ago, I make surprising discoveries.

Posted by: frammish at July 05, 2026 08:04 PM (rcENI)

Daily Tech News 5 July 2026

Top Story

  • Apple's upcoming A20 Pro phone CPU could be the company's first chip to use LPDDR6 memory - and to increase the bus width from 64 bits to 96 bits. (WCCFTech)

    The 96-bit width is actually a natural result of DDR6 architecture, which instead of having two 32-bit subchannels (each with optional ECC) is broken down into four 24-bit channels (each comprised of two 12-bit subchannels) with extra ECC bits coming from a multi-word burst. If you read twelve 12-bit words from memory, for example, you get four 32-bit words plus 16 bits of error-correcting data.

    Which means that while all DDR5 memory has on-die ECC, all DDR6 memory has both on-die and end-to-end ECC.

    And 50% more bandwidth. Actually more than that in time, as DDR6 will support higher speeds than DDR5.


  • Though you won't be able to afford it. (WCCFTech)

    Budget phones are expected to disappear for at least a couple of years as memory prices simply push them out of the market. If manufacturers have to spend $200 for 8GB of RAM, saving $5 on the CPU makes no sense.


Tech News



Musical Interlude





Disclaimer: I'm not at all surprised it was a cover, just who it was a cover of.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM




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1 omg i read the content

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:33 AM (mmrXZ)

2
Wait! It didn't hurt!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:33 AM (mmrXZ)

3
Okay, I'll go call the others.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:33 AM (mmrXZ)

4
Apparently, there are no others. I'm in a Ray Bradbury short story.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:34 AM (mmrXZ)

5 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 05, 2026 04:37 AM (ntk8v)

6
Supergirl was "beset by mixed reviews, and a very disappointing opening weekend box office."

I think of "beset" as applying to locusts, wildfires, pirates, etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:38 AM (mmrXZ)

7
Mornin', Puddlegum. Carry the torch here. I've got to get to sleep.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:38 AM (mmrXZ)

8 If I had been a teen during the 60's, my favorite bands would've been Doors, Love, Airplane, Spirit, and the Dead.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 05, 2026 04:39 AM (DZ9Lv)

9 Too much pressure, BM.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 05, 2026 04:42 AM (ntk8v)

10 6 Supergirl was "beset by mixed reviews, and a very disappointing opening weekend box office."

I think of "beset" as applying to locusts, wildfires, pirates, etc.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Ain't nobody got time to pirate Supergirl.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 05, 2026 04:44 AM (BLOW1)

11 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:51 AM (Ia/+0)

12 I was in bed at time but last night had fireworks and thunder going at same time

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 04:57 AM (Ia/+0)

13 Good morning. Hopefully no one is hungover.

Posted by: meh at July 05, 2026 05:00 AM (zZxsY)

14 Good morning. Hopefully no one is hungover.
Posted by: meh

I'm just starting. (My every-few-weeks can of Miller Lite. I bought an 18 pack several months ago.)

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 05, 2026 05:04 AM (DZ9Lv)

15 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at July 05, 2026 05:15 AM (V0/Sp)

16 "The third derivative of distance is called jerk, just like Sam Altman."

*snrks* Perfect. Just perfect.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 05, 2026 05:16 AM (O7YUW)

17 "Worth the A$2.25 I paid, but not worth keeping once it reverts to full price."

Set a scheduled set of three alarms on your phone for renewal date minus 9, 8, and 7 days respectively.

date -9: "Cancel Hidive"

date -8: "No really, cancel Hidive"

date -7: "If you don't cancel Hidive right now, you're going to end up making a 'I told me so' comment in the Tech News a week from now!"

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 05, 2026 05:22 AM (O7YUW)

18 Evening and morning, Blonde Morticia (who is in a class quite by herself) and you other satraps and satellites! 'Tis Sunday, the beginning of the USA's 251st year. Let's make it a good one.

I woke from a dream about Buffy the Vampire Slayer trying to board the same plane as a villain, possibly a vampire (though with the whole "daylight destroying vamps" thing, that's unlikely). The vampire got to the plane just ahead of her, and the staff shut the door. Buffy was going to be half a day behind him and whatever horror he was planning to perpetrate -- a big setback for the plot.

Then Stirling the big black cat nestled in next to me, and I realized I was (a) awake, (b) no longer sleepy. Guess I'll never know how that one came out.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 05:26 AM (wzUl9)

19 Wow, where is everybody?
I slept thru most of the fireworks, but at about midnight, there was a rumble and roar like I had never heard before that woke me up. Not sure if it was the finale or what, but I'm 9 miles from the Mall, so...

I give a lot of credit to the folks who toughed out the thunderstorms and waited so late for the fireworks, I hope is was spectacular but I felt 40 minutes would be exhausting.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 05, 2026 05:32 AM (S8cdb)

20 G'mornin' everyone!

That's a cool list to be on, Pixy!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 05, 2026 05:35 AM (VyBeY)

21 In that video, Grace Slick (?), the lead vocalist, has a burning intensity when she looks at you, as if trying to beam a message right into your brain. I got the message. It read something like "I'm hot, and you know it."

I have a dim memory of one of Esquire's Dubious Achievement Awards issues, in which the short bit appeared telling us that Grace was going to name her child "god." Why the lower case, the magazine asked. To which Grace was supposed to have replied, "Because we have to be humble about this."

Since her only child, according to Wiki, is named "China Wing Kantner," I suppose this was a complete gag by the magazine from start to finish.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 05:36 AM (wzUl9)

22 I'm discussing with Grok a plan to plunder two of Jules Verne's works at the same time for a novella-length story set in, basically, a matryoshka doll of weirdness. Mostly because when I read 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea as a child I didn't know what a league was and was very confused when I looked it up.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 05, 2026 05:37 AM (BLOW1)

23 meh, slept through most of it ... curiously, one big boom around 0200, all by itself ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 05, 2026 05:37 AM (VyBeY)

24 Greetings from Oban Scotland. We missed the fireworks, but the craft whiskey and Gin dulls the pain of loss. And we'll be back home tomorrow.

Posted by: Pod Hamp at July 05, 2026 05:38 AM (KTCHq)

25 There was the constant rattle of small-arms fire and boom of artillery last night, sending Stirling into a tizzy. Excuse me, I meant fireworks. (Though considering this city, it could well have been small-arms fire and artillery.) Despite wolfing his calming chews, melatonin, he still hid under the bed. Despite her calming chews treats, Dagny was edgy, but stayed out in the living room, racing around and then relaxing on the carpet.

Cats. Who can understand 'em?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 05:40 AM (wzUl9)

26 Oban is good stuff.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 05, 2026 05:40 AM (DZ9Lv)

27
Diana just wanted to be on the bed with us last night. The Big Dummy lay on the floor next to Her Majesty's side. They, Dot and the kennel dogs were fine this morning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2026 05:43 AM (O0L8i)

28
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 05, 2026 05:46 AM (AMvSw)

29 We watched Mr. Smith Goes to Washington last night. Still a fine film, a career definer for James Stewart, a wonderful performance by Jean Arthur (who is billed above Stewart), and colorful work by Claude Rains, Eugene Palette, and Edward Arnold.

If it has a flaw, to me, it's that it ends too quickly and abruptly. Smith collapses after his 23-hour filibuster; it looks like his crusade is over; and then Rains's Sen. Paine goes berserk, shouting that Smith is right, that he himself is corrupt and should be expelled from the Senate. And that's pretty much it. It needed a quick, possibly wordless scene where Jean's character goes to Stewart's, revives him and kisses him, and they embrace. *Then* The End.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 05:48 AM (wzUl9)

30 w00t late

Posted by: m at July 05, 2026 06:05 AM (6wpGE)

31 >>>(I am probably on a list somewhere simply titled "Huh?")

Congratulations!

Posted by: m at July 05, 2026 06:10 AM (6wpGE)

32 uh-oh

Posted by: m at July 05, 2026 06:16 AM (6wpGE)

33 Because in real life, guys like Sen. McConnell never admit that they are corrupt.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026 06:20 AM (qFwJc)

34 Since her only child, according to Wiki, is named "China Wing Kantner," I suppose this was a complete gag by the magazine from start to finish.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 05:36 AM (wzUl9)

I remember seeing her on MTV eons ago as a sometimes VJ. Weird name, but she was hot.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 06:25 AM (pKv0r)

35 Thunderstorms went through the civilized parts of Virginia last night. D.C. was scheduled to have a huge parade of aircraft flyovers by NASA and military aircraft yesterday. Did that come to pass?
From my vague recollection of beginner’s flight ground school, D.C. has very restricted air space at normal times. I keep thinking of that tragic screwup over the Potomac River by DCA.

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 05, 2026 06:29 AM (1FEc1)

36 24 Greetings from Oban Scotland. We missed the fireworks, but the craft whiskey and Gin dulls the pain of loss. And we'll be back home tomorrow.
Posted by: Pod Hamp



Howdy! Oban is one of my favorite towns in Scotland. Visited it in '92, but I recall it fondly. Gorgeous area.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at July 05, 2026 06:52 AM (sAmhv)

37 Good morning Horde. Happy Sunday. Thx Pixy
Grace Slick had some pipes.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 05, 2026 06:59 AM (1OoAs)

38 23 meh, slept through most of it ... curiously, one big boom around 0200, all by itself ...

np, totally get it.

Posted by: meh at July 05, 2026 07:06 AM (zZxsY)

39 Jefferson Airplane/ Stsrship.was never much my listening

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 07:09 AM (Ia/+0)

40 Since her only child, according to Wiki, is named "China Wing Kantner," I suppose this was a complete gag by the magazine from start to finish.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026
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I remember seeing her on MTV eons ago as a sometimes VJ. Weird name, but she was hot.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026


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"Wing" was Grace's maiden name, and "Kantner" was the Jefferson Airplane/Starship band member who fathered the girl.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 07:10 AM (wzUl9)

41 Because in real life, guys like Sen. McConnell never admit that they are corrupt.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 05, 2026


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Sen. Paine's change of heart works in the film because it's been set up properly, and because of Claude Rains, who could make almost anything work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 07:12 AM (wzUl9)

42 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 05, 2026 07:16 AM (dmoni)

43 Morning peeps. As I predicted last night's community stepped up and put on quite a show. The competition from mother nature towards midnight was close. Pretty nice storm rolled through the area, missing most of us, but lots of lightning.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 05, 2026 07:30 AM (jehhT)

44 I'm back from my workout, cleaned up (though I still need to shave), and have fed the monsters and myself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 07:32 AM (wzUl9)

45 Mornin', Horde. 70 & muggy in Kentuckiana, going to the upper 80s. Just got rained on while taking the dog out, too.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 05, 2026 07:33 AM (NcvvS)

46 Morning, Horde...How goes it?

Had a rough night here.

A storm rolled through at 3 pm yesterday and knocked out power to most of town.

Didn't come back on until 5 am this morning.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 05, 2026 07:34 AM (FZ29D)

47 Super belated BOING!

Lunch with pups and grandpups.

Some Brits still retain a sense of humor:

https://tinyurl.com/yvmftypb

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 07:45 AM (y1wyK)

48 Supergirl was "beset by mixed reviews, and a very disappointing opening weekend box office."

I think of "beset" as applying to locusts, wildfires, pirates, etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:38 AM (mmrXZ)
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So says an 'Ette.

The 'Rons here would most likely think of "beset" as Jacqueline.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 07:48 AM (y1wyK)

49 Good morning! That was quite the show yesterday, and a magnificent speech by PDTS.

To me at least, the contrast of love for country and hate/contempt for country between this administration and the previous administrations and it's sycophantic bootlickers is crystal clear.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 05, 2026 07:51 AM (3Ope8)

50 Mornin' horde.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 07:57 AM (h7ZuX)

51 We've gone from 100° we're all going to melt, to flash flood warnings through Tuesday morning. Weather fear porn

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 05, 2026 07:58 AM (1OoAs)

52 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2026 08:04 AM (u82oZ)

53 Wow, where is everybody?
I slept thru most of the fireworks, but at about midnight, there was a rumble and roar like I had never heard before that woke me up. Not sure if it was the finale or what, but I'm 9 miles from the Mall, so...

I give a lot of credit to the folks who toughed out the thunderstorms and waited so late for the fireworks, I hope is was spectacular but I felt 40 minutes would be exhausting.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 05, 2026 05:32 AM (S8cdb)

The roar you heard was the start of it. It ran from 11:59 p.m.-12:39 a.m.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 08:04 AM (pJK38)

54 Thunderstorms went through the civilized parts of Virginia last night. D.C. was scheduled to have a huge parade of aircraft flyovers by NASA and military aircraft yesterday. Did that come to pass?
From my vague recollection of beginner’s flight ground school, D.C. has very restricted air space at normal times. I keep thinking of that tragic screwup over the Potomac River by DCA.

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 05, 2026 06:29 AM (1FEc1)

The flyovers happened earlier in the day, before the storms came through.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 08:05 AM (pJK38)

55 Just watched the fireworks show at DC last night. Pretty amazing!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 05, 2026 08:07 AM (3Ope8)

56 I could not resist the walk through memory lane, so I clicked on the link. I am comforted that Grace doesn't look any better than me these days.

Dog survived the fireworks. Mr Trouble came inwith him about six and stayed in until one. Jake got Composure pills that had him sleeping through the worst of it

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 05, 2026 08:09 AM (bkuEU)

57 Good morning morons

Update on Mrs. F. Remains hospitalized being treated for salmonella poisoning. Slight improvement but still not taking any nourishment by mouth. She needs to take some juice or broth but has not managed to keep anything down. Today is Day 5. Please include her in your prayers for a complete and immediate recovery.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:10 AM (RIvkX)

58 IMO, the DC fireworks on the Fourth are normally not one of the best shows in the country. Nice backdrop, yes. Trump wanted to make it a show that was worthy of the capital city of the greatest country in the world on a significant anniversary, and as I said in the ONT it very quickly put the usual display to shame.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 08:12 AM (pJK38)

59 Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:10 AM (RIvkX)

Best wishes and prayers for your better half (and some for you ).

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 05, 2026 08:13 AM (3Ope8)

60 "Wing" was Grace's maiden name, and "Kantner" was the Jefferson Airplane/Starship band member who fathered the girl.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 07:10 AM (wzUl9)
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Burger place I go to has a burger named after Jack Kantner because he went there all the time.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:17 AM (RIvkX)

61 LOL @ Nick Sortor:

https://tinyurl.com/rrbf73k5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 08:17 AM (y1wyK)

62 SF, that is awful. Prayers continue. Glad to know they figured out what it is.
May her recovery be swift and she be returned to your home quickly.
Goodness.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 05, 2026 08:17 AM (4VH0B)

63 Update on Mrs. F. Remains hospitalized being treated for salmonella poisoning.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:10 AM (RIvkX)
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Ugh!

Get better quick, Mrs. SF - and stay off the salmon for the next few months!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 08:19 AM (y1wyK)

64 San Franpsycho

Wow. Five days. Prayers continue to ascend. Maybe I'll break out the motorized prayer wheels to help.

Hang in there. You need support as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 05, 2026 08:20 AM (u82oZ)

65 Update on Mrs. F. Remains hospitalized being treated for salmonella poisoning.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:10 AM (RIvkX)

Wow, prayers said for her recovery. How long did it take them to determine that it was salmonella?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 08:23 AM (h7ZuX)

66 Continuing prayers for Mrs. SF

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 05, 2026 08:26 AM (bkuEU)

67 Wow, prayers said for her recovery. How long did it take them to determine that it was salmonella?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 08:23 AM (h7ZuX)
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That miracle of science was pronounced by the wizards the morning of Day 4.

Funny how literally no one else has it. But for one meal on Day -6 we have eaten the same thing wt the same time. It just doesn't track.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:26 AM (RIvkX)

68 Thanks for letting us know about Mrs SFP, SFP. Prayers continue for complete and quick healing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2026 08:27 AM (eT41E)

69 Having her out of the house so long is challenging she is such a key player. Yesterday I had to figure out how to work the vacuum. All by myself!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:29 AM (RIvkX)

70 Yeah, SF. Weird that no one else got sick.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 05, 2026 08:29 AM (h7ZuX)

71 But for one meal on Day -6 we have eaten the same thing wt the same time. It just doesn't track.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:26 AM (RIvkX)
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Bacterial infections are not an all or none event.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 08:32 AM (y1wyK)

72 My friends say I am lazy, entitled, and spoiled. After this experience I am forced to agree.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:33 AM (RIvkX)

73
Paul Pelosi drove into a parked car yesterday and drove away but the police are cool with it 'cause he said he'd take car of the damages.

I'm pretty sure none of us would get the same treatment for a hit and run.

Posted by: Auspex at July 05, 2026 08:35 AM (Y8DZL)

74 Glyph keyboard has no numeric pad. Hard No!

And how much memory does a phone need, anyway, to work as a phone? Make and receive calls and texts, and a few pics, as needed. No music, no games, no apps, no tracking.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 08:36 AM (1z8ji)

75 Paul Pelosi drove into a parked car yesterday and drove away but the police are cool with it 'cause he said he'd take car of the damages.

I'm pretty sure none of us would get the same treatment for a hit and run.
Posted by: Auspex at July 05, 2026 08:35 AM (Y8DZL)

Should have given him a DUI as he was hammered earlier.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 08:37 AM (1Ff7Z)

76 Trump needs to immediately denaturalize these vermin:

https://tinyurl.com/3edrfjb7

Or snuff them.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 08:41 AM (y1wyK)

77 Should have given him a DUI as he was hammered earlier.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 08:37 AM (1Ff7Z)
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It's (D)ifferent when he drives drunk. May be bashing in his skull more completely would actually save lives.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:42 AM (RIvkX)

78 SanFranpsycho, you mentioned that Mrs.F had had a minor procedure beforehand. Did she have ingest anything that day?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:42 AM (afJtY)

79 https://tinyurl.com/3edrfjb7

That Jackson Hinkle character is a particularly noxious little b*tch.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:43 AM (RIvkX)

80 Update on Mrs. F. Remains hospitalized being treated for salmonella poisoning. Slight improvement but still not taking any nourishment by mouth. She needs to take some juice or broth but has not managed to keep anything down. Today is Day 5. Please include her in your prayers for a complete and immediate recovery.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:10 AM (RIvkX)

At least they have a diagnosis now. May she recover quickly!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 08:45 AM (1z8ji)

81 SanFranpsycho, you mentioned that Mrs.F had had a minor procedure beforehand. Did she have ingest anything that day?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:42 AM (afJtY)
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She had an endoscopy Tuesday and never recovered. imho that is the source of her infection. She was perfectly fine Monday and Tuesday morning and the hospital seems like it is in CYA mode.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:46 AM (RIvkX)

82 So glad they finally figured it out. Now she can get the appropriate care and heal. What an odd and disturbing turn of events.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 05, 2026 08:49 AM (4VH0B)

83 SanFranpsycho, they probably are. Salmonella is shed in urine and feces.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 05, 2026 08:50 AM (afJtY)

84 Rules for elite, rules for little people

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2026 08:51 AM (Ia/+0)

85 San Franpsycho,

I think you have it figured out. Sorry this has happened. You both are in my prayers.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 05, 2026 08:51 AM (3AwA+)

86 I ran into a parked car once, but I was 12 years old and on my Schwinn Stingray. I was cruising down our residential street, and there was some girl on the other side of the street, so I started watching her and quit looking ahead. And suddenly there was this parked car.

When I ran into the back of it, the bike stopped instantly but I kept moving. My butt flew off that banana seat and into the handlebar fork in front, and I got the nutcracking to end all nutcrackings. I remember crawling into the grass of the nearby yard and just laying there for about 10 minutes before I could even stand up again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 08:53 AM (H8EHh)

87 MP4 is early on the BT.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 08:55 AM (1Ff7Z)

88 She had an endoscopy Tuesday and never recovered. imho that is the source of her infection. She was perfectly fine Monday and Tuesday morning and the hospital seems like it is in CYA mode.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2026 08:46 AM (RIvkX)

Any Muzzie or other DEI practitioners involved with the initial procedure?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 08:57 AM (1z8ji)

89 "Wing" was Grace's maiden name, and "Kantner" was the Jefferson Airplane/Starship band member who fathered the girl.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2026 07:10 AM (wzUl9)

There are not a lot of women running around today named “China”, even so.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 09:03 AM (4g5V+)

90 She had an endoscopy Tuesday and never recovered. imho that is the source of her infection. She was perfectly fine Monday and Tuesday morning and the hospital seems like it is in CYA mode.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Any Muzzie or other DEI practitioners involved with the initial procedure?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

That's where my thinking is too. Prayers SF, may she recover quickly now they know what it is.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 05, 2026 09:04 AM (QVmho)

91 47 Super belated BOING!

Lunch with pups and grandpups.

Some Brits still retain a sense of humor:

https://tinyurl.com/yvmftypb
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 07:45 AM (y1wyK)

!!!
I'm laughing, I'm crying.

Posted by: m at July 05, 2026 09:08 AM (6wpGE)

92 86 I ran into a parked car once, but I was 12 years old and on my Schwinn Stingray. I was cruising down our residential street, and there was some girl on the other side of the street, so I started watching her and quit looking ahead. And suddenly there was this parked car.

When I ran into the back of it, the bike stopped instantly but I kept moving. My butt flew off that banana seat and into the handlebar fork in front, and I got the nutcracking to end all nutcrackings. I remember crawling into the grass of the nearby yard and just laying there for about 10 minutes before I could even stand up again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 08:53 AM (H8EHh)

Great story.

Posted by: m at July 05, 2026 09:21 AM (6wpGE)

USA-250 Club ONT - July 4, 2026 [3 D's]

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Welcome to Club ONT - a revolutionary collaboration of The Club's "founding fathers", The Disco, The Dino, and The Doggo. That's right - even the prodigal pooch couldn't stay away from our USA-250 celebration!

We built this place for you so you can have some fun. Come in in, grab a drink or 3. Keep it light and friendly. Jerks need not enter the premises. No loyal British subjects of the king are allowed either! Club ONT is for citizens, not subjects.

Please rise for a salute to the ragged old flag.

Thank you.

*****

Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

Why did Paul Revere ride his horse from Boston to Lexington? It was too heavy to carry.

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So it's July 4th night, and all of the dead presidents are gathered around a campfire for a party. They're drinking, eating, and having a good time when President Washington puts President Lincoln on the spot.

"Hey, Lincoln, do your thing!" asks Washington.

"What thing?" Lincoln asks. "What is it?"

"Lincoln, do the thing!" Washington says. The speech, address or whatever! "You know what I'm talking about!"

"Oh, yeah, the speech," Lincoln says. That thing, yes. I'm afraid I can't. "I can't recall the words."

"What do you mean you can't remember the words?" exclaimed Washington. "You've given the speech a million times! You've got that like burned in your brain, right?!"

Lincoln says, "Well, yeah, normally, sure, I've got it memorized, but that was four s'mores and seven beers ago!"

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Drink of the Night

A red, white, and blue layered cocktail for USA-250? Of course!

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Here's how to make it

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Club ONT Department of Bicentennial Artifacts

Who still has their Bicentennial mug, T-shirt, pin, button, commemorative plate... or harmonica?

Is it proudly displayed? Tucked away in the attic? Hidden in a box with the avocado-green Tupperware and other "too sentimental to toss" treasures?

Hit the comments if you've held onto a Bicentennial keepsake or two.

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Check out this cool poster from our good friend and barkeep, JQ!

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Hopefully JQ will take a break from pouring drinks and explain how this came into her possession and where she currently has it displayed.

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Yes... one of the D's still has a Bicentennial harmonica. It's safely tucked away in a home office desk drawer, just waiting for a Yankee Doodle rendition.

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And here's one from The Disco's personal collection. A well cared for piece of Bicentennial drinkware!

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[Disco says: This belonged to my grandfather, was given to my mom when she and my dad bought a house with a bar in the basement, then I took it several years ago when my mom sold that house. It has become my favorite glass for sipping bourbon.]

Grok says it is a "sour cream" tumbler made by Hazel Atlas Glass Company.

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So - what do you still have? And what have you acquired as a collectible for USA-250?


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Club ONT Department of Flyover Country

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4 cents per acre. Jefferson and that land purchase. Very casual reading at the link - plenty of other details to parse in the comment section.

By the time Monroe arrived in Paris on April 12, 1803, the French had made a stunning offer to Livingston. For various reasons, Napoleon had decided to abandon his plans for Louisiana, and he had Prime Minister Talleyrand offer not just New Orleans but the entire territory to the United States for $15 million. Monroe and Livingston agreed to the purchase, and they signed a treaty with France on April 30, 1803.

How is that Greenland thing coming along?


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Club ONT Department of Patriotic Paint Jobs and Styling

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Patriotic Special Edition Cars and Trucks Hit the link to check out the 1976 Cadillac Eldorado Bicentennial Edition.

Hurst Performance had a thriving business as a specialty car builder for major automakers in the late 1960s, producing special high-performance models for Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Plymouth, and others, but the AMC Hurst SC/Rambler is undoubtedly one of the most visually distinctive vehicles that emerged from these collaborations.

Nice story about a kid tracking down his dad's 1976 Kenworth - Bicentennial edition.

During the nation's bicentennial celebration in 1976, automakers introduced special edition cars and trucks honoring America's 200th anniversary, while Kenworth answered the call with one of the most distinctive heavy-duty trucks it had ever produced.

Known as the VIT 200, the limited-production package transformed the company's flagship W900 conventional into a patriotic showpiece through a red, white, and blue paint scheme, special trim, commemorative badging, and the introduction of Kenworth's groundbreaking Aerodyne raised-roof sleeper.


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Club ONT Jukebox

250 years of this great nation deserves a party!

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Club ONT is brought to you by the Weather Report

Florida Man meets Hurricane Matthew (with help from Slayer)

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Club ONT Disclaimer: Side effects may include wild flag waving, excessive potato salad consumption, Roman Candle duels, and convincing yourself a second or third hot dog is a good idea. Professional fireworks should be left to professionals. Uncle Billy is not a professional fireworks technician, no matter what he says - and neither are you Morons.

This ONT is fueled by charcoal, confidence, and mosquitoes. No Founding Fathers were consulted in the planning of these festivities, though we're reasonably certain they'd have questions.

Sparklers are not lightsabers. Lawn chairs and coolers are not defensive positions. The bald eagle is watching all of you. America has thrived for 250 years. Don't be the reason it doesn't survive the weekend.

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1 Wow! 3 Ds?! Youza!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 10:01 PM (uTEOj)

2 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 04, 2026 10:03 PM (w3u3d)

3 I have a $10 roll of Bicentennial quarters.

I also have - inherited from my father - a set, untouched by human hands, of Bicentennial coinage - a dollar, half dollar and a quarter.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 10:03 PM (M5CvA)

4 Woot! Club ONT! Thanks, 3Ds!!!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 10:03 PM (rdVOm)

5 The American Way


https://tinyurl.com/4uakukck


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:04 PM (jU8k8)

6 I still have my Philadelphia 76 Liberty Bell souvenir button.

Posted by: goozer at July 04, 2026 10:06 PM (eTh1u)

7 Who still has their Bicentennial mug, T-shirt, pin, button, commemorative plate... or harmonica?

I still have many quarters...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 10:06 PM (uTEOj)

8 That top picture needs to be a t-shirt.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:08 PM (afJtY)

9 I'm thinking I'm the only Moron here tonight...
Look at meeee!
'Merica baby!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 10:08 PM (uTEOj)

10 Evenin'

Guess the fireworks in DC got rained out. I'm torn on that. Bummer for the visitors but we need the rain and it's been steamy hot around here. Hoping it cools down to a comfortable, humid 90 tomorrow. Over 100 sucks.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 10:09 PM (ntk8v)

11 Howdy, Club patrons! Happy 250!🇺🇸

Posted by: Doof at July 04, 2026 10:10 PM (QMAsf)

12 Sorry I'm late, I was waiting for Paul Revere to ride through town and hand out presents.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 04, 2026 10:10 PM (ZWAWS)

13 A3-D ONT is a rare treat. Thank you to all!

Greetings Horde from So. Cal. Scattered booms going off around me. Fireworks, not t-storms.

I might have a bicentennial proof set or two. I also have an early 1970's Florida license plate which I placed in the back window of my truck which my wife rolled her eyes at. She drew the line at my Nixon/Agnew bumper sticker.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 10:11 PM (GCVzV)

14 Is that tcn's Falcon?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:11 PM (jU8k8)

15
*rings doorbell repeatedly*

Helloooh! Anyone home?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:11 PM (O0L8i)

16 I keep a $2 bill in my wallet.

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2026 10:11 PM (Q+gd/)

17 It's hard to believe that it has been 50 years since the Highcentennial.

Posted by: toby928(c) at July 04, 2026 10:12 PM (4NO2D)

18 Only three beachgoers hit in the head/face by a fallen Roman Candle this year. As one might imagine, someone else got a couple of throat punches.

Glad we watched from the cottage deck.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2026 10:12 PM (NXz0i)

19 I might have a bicentennial proof set or two. I also have an early 1970's Florida license plate which I placed in the back window of my truck which my wife rolled her eyes at. She drew the line at my Nixon/Agnew bumper sticker.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 10:11 PM (GCVzV)


Did you call her a nattering nabob of negativity?

Posted by: Doof at July 04, 2026 10:13 PM (QMAsf)

20 Bicentennial poster:

I was the poster-collector in my fam. Seems that this one is the only one what wasn't *appropriated* by younger siblings when I left home! Most of the others were Velvaprint® blacklight style and disappeared over the years...

I found it rolled up and tucked away with other childhood stuff, under the staircase, while cleaning out Dad's house. (The work of Mom, no doubt, as Dad threw away so many keepsakes when he found them. Dad didn't mess with that stuff under the stairs, thankfully)

Couldn't get it professionally matted before the holiday. Now wondering whether to do that, or just fill in the blank top/bottom with colorful fabric and call it good. For now, it's in the living room. Will hang permanently in the den after finishing the framed display.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 10:14 PM (rdVOm)

21 10 Guess the fireworks in DC got rained out.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 10:09 PM
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Not so fast. They're letting people back on the mall. PDJT is giving comments at 11pm and fireworks will follow. (At least that was the last I heard.)

Posted by: TRex - explosive dino at July 04, 2026 10:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

22 A red, white, and blue layered cocktail for USA-250? Of course!

But of course!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPicnUgsJjE

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 04, 2026 10:15 PM (Wnv9h)

23 TxAnn ought to come to the next TX MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 04, 2026 10:15 PM (R+iUD)

24 One thing people don't realize is now at 250 years the US has one of the oldest governments in the world.

A whole lot of governments only go back to WWI or WWII or even later.

I was asking this as a trivia question to some friends today, "What is the oldest government in the world and I got answers like Germany or Italy and...not even close

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 10:16 PM (sKqQm)

25 I keep a $2 bill in my wallet.
Posted by: davidt

I keep a $3 bill in my wallet.

Posted by: Buttigig at July 04, 2026 10:16 PM (NXz0i)

26 Hey Helena!!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:17 PM (lfni7)

27 I’m trying to pin down the make and tear of the patriotic car up top, looks familiar but I can’t pin it down.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 10:17 PM (H8EHh)

28 KW looks like it has twin 100 gal tanks. Fill that baby up.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:18 PM (jU8k8)

29 How are women like fireworks? They look.great from a distance, dangerous up close and can go off with the tiniest spark.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:18 PM (afJtY)

30 The Ruger firearms company stamped "Made in the 200th Year of American Liberty" on the guns they made in 1976. Guns being the durable products that they are, most of them are still around.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 04, 2026 10:19 PM (W5PEE)

31 Truth, Justice and All That Jazz..

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 04, 2026 10:20 PM (XV/Pl)

32 The oldest government would be something like the Knights Hospitallers, or San Marino, wouldn't it? The Vatican?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 10:20 PM (rbvCR)

33 Comparing the US and UK today makes it clear that the right decision was to fight for Independence

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 10:20 PM (QTFkC)

34 Just set of 20 cannisters of pyrotechnic delight. But, the coolest thing was that the sky around here is alive with those lightning bolts that shoot across the entire sky. Some of the fireworks were timed absolutely perfectly with the natural light show.

Very Auspicious. (that's the positive type of Omen)

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 10:21 PM (dIske)

35 I want mammoths. The northern America needs mammoths 🦣
Make it happen Trump

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:21 PM (YeXhF)

36 29 How are women like fireworks? They look.great from a distance, dangerous up close and can go off with the tiniest spark.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:18 PM (afJtY)
_____________________________

Short fuse.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 10:22 PM (dIske)

37 Amazing likeness to all 3 of you in that top pic!

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 10:22 PM (kU0PQ)

38 I may need to bring the younger cats in early tonight. They were a bit freaked last night.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 10:22 PM (rbvCR)

39 The 250th has got me all choked up. This is one helluva anniversary for our great nation.

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:23 PM (JpUeg)

40 33 Comparing the US and UK today makes it clear that the right decision was to fight for Independence
Posted by: JM in Illinois

Yeah.
George III himself exclaimed that when Washington went home to his farm that this was the greatest statesman of his time

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:23 PM (YeXhF)

41
Happy 4th, everybody.

It was slightly "cooler" today. We got more "mixing" as the GSP boys call it, which lowered dew points for about 80 down to the lower 70s. That made a difference. Tomorrow, the temps will be lower, but dew point back up. Pick your poison.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:23 PM (w6EFb)

42 That top picture needs to be a t-shirt.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:08 PM (afJtY)

It's a very good likeness of all three!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:23 PM (1z8ji)

43
A woman walks into a library in Paris and asks to see the French Constitution. "Madame," the librarian sniffs, "we do not carry periodicals."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:24 PM (O0L8i)

44
Billy Ray corrupted Miley when she was too young.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:24 PM (jU8k8)

45 I wonder if there are fireworks in heaven. If so, I don't know if my dad, his dad, or I would have the most fun shooting them off for an hour or two.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 10:24 PM (qx7Zg)

46 Yet again my erudite and witty commentary fails to score even an honorable mention in the COTW field.....

Sobs uncontrollably....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 10:24 PM (QGaXH)

47 Evening Horde. We got some fireworks with the nephew and his kiddos before the storm blew up. When the wind goes from calm to blustery in minutes, and it's about to rain? Probably best to pack it in. It's a nice storm, though. Nature is doing fireworks tonight.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 04, 2026 10:24 PM (XQ+xj)

48 °being all humble and shit•
Just saw I made the bonus comments...I never get there!

I love the Ds!🐕🦖🎶!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 10:25 PM (uTEOj)

49 43
A woman walks into a library in Paris and asks to see the French Constitution. "Madame," the librarian sniffs, "we do not carry periodicals."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:24 PM (O0L8i)


If the same thing happened in the UK, the librarian would have to say "Well, this is embarrassing, but we never actually wrote it down, so it's whatever Kier Starmer says it is."

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:25 PM (JpUeg)

50 35 I want mammoths. The northern America needs mammoths 🦣
Make it happen Trump
Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:21 PM (YeXhF)

Always the bridesmaid...

Posted by: Mastodons at July 04, 2026 10:25 PM (ZWAWS)

51 Thanks for the star-spangled USA-250 Club ONT, 3-Ds!

Happy Independence Day!

Love the graphic up top. It's a keeper.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 04, 2026 10:26 PM (D/6p1)

52 I have a dog that provides me with unconditional love but I also have a cat that says I don't deserve it. It's all about balance.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:26 PM (afJtY)

53 I love the Ds!🐕🦖🎶!!
Posted by: COMountainMarie

Who doesn't?

Posted by: Mayor Pete at July 04, 2026 10:26 PM (YeXhF)

54 >> I want mammoths.

We had native camels here as well during the late Pleistocene, too. Bring those back. Saber tooth cats, and even lions that were bigger than the African lions. A cheetah and a jaguar.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:27 PM (w6EFb)

55 19 Did you call her a nattering nabob of negativity?
Posted by: Doof at July 04, 2026 10:13 PM (QMAsf)

I get the reference and no - she knows where I sleep and has access to my food supply...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 10:27 PM (QGaXH)

56 I love the Ds!🐕🦖🎶!!
Posted by: COMountainMarie


You know about the cup sizes??

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 04, 2026 10:27 PM (XQ+xj)

57 Elon says he wants a miniature mammoth as a pet. The thing about Elon is that you never know, he might actually make that happen.

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:28 PM (JpUeg)

58
May consign the house dogs to the laundry room for the evening where the sound of the fireworks won't be as loud.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:28 PM (O0L8i)

59 Always the bridesmaid...
Posted by: Mastodons at July 04, 2026 10:25 PM (ZWAWS)

Mastodons, mammoths, whatever. Em are all heffalumps. And we do need to get them back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:28 PM (1z8ji)

60 You know what's missing in the top picture? TRex using a gator as a cannon.

https://youtu.be/mjXM6x_0KZk

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 10:28 PM (qx7Zg)

61 publius, Dire Lions?

Posted by: RandomDave at July 04, 2026 10:28 PM (XQ+xj)

62 Great ONT, 3Ds!

Happy Birthday, USA!

Posted by: PT, Piano Teacher, former Official Delurker at July 04, 2026 10:29 PM (wmKCn)

63
And we did have elephants proper roaming here as well. A big different from the African ones, and closer to the Asian species.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:29 PM (w6EFb)

64 Best fireworks ever. When my brother died he was cremated so we put his remains in a firecracker and gave him one fantastic send off.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:29 PM (afJtY)

65 24 One thing people don't realize is now at 250 years the US has one of the oldest governments in the world.

A whole lot of governments only go back to WWI or WWII or even later.

I was asking this as a trivia question to some friends today, "What is the oldest government in the world and I got answers like Germany or Italy and...not even close

Posted by: 18-1
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Rome was a republic for 100 years.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:29 PM (jU8k8)

66 Tyler airport had a historic aircraft fly in today. I didn’t make it out there, but at 6 tonight they flew out and made passes over the city as they left. I heard the low rumblings of those engines, and was delighted to see two formations of 4 fighters each pass over the house at about 500’.

There’s nothing like the sound of those engines, I was inside but I heard them coming and ran out to see!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 10:30 PM (H8EHh)

67 Willowed.
228 We can see monster fireworks displays at 5 locstions from our deck, some as far away as 4 milesand some as close as 200 yards.
Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 10:26 PM (LHPAg)

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 10:30 PM (LHPAg)

68 Had to bring my outside dog in. Loud fireworks is scaring him.
Put him in the utility room in the house and gave him some dog biscuits. Petted him, seems to have settled him down.
He's not use to those loud noises.

Posted by: Case at July 04, 2026 10:30 PM (IY9No)

69 The brass band is playing the 1960s Star Trek theme.
That is as American as it gets.
Nice that William Shatner has lived long enough

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:30 PM (YeXhF)

70 Sun hasn't set here yet... local show will commence at 10pm PDT. Not going this year, been imbibing LOL!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 10:31 PM (rdVOm)

71
We had native camels here as well during the late Pleistocene, too. Bring those back. Saber tooth cats, and even lions that were bigger than the African lions. A cheetah and a jaguar.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:27 PM (w6EFb)

Saber-tooth cats. Dire wolves. Giant sloths. Giant beavers. Dodos. Giant killer birds. Uintabeasts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:31 PM (1z8ji)

72 >> publius, Dire Lions?

Panthera atrox, the American lion.

Also, a pretty big and very fast bear species that could catch some of those big cats.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:32 PM (w6EFb)

73 Happy Fourth.

Posted by: Don Black at July 04, 2026 10:33 PM (ZxPkt)

74 AoP, I think wolves, horses, camels, and even primates are North American
Mammoths and cats came here from the Bering

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:33 PM (YeXhF)

75 Top 10 Comments of the Week is RIGGED

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2026 10:33 PM (u/oMr)

76 Also, a pretty big and very fast bear species that could catch some of those big cats.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:32 PM (w6EFb)

Giant cave bears?

And the never seen, but totally feared, 12 meter long Ur-marmot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:34 PM (1z8ji)

77 If you're going to start cloning extinct species, maybe start with the passenger pigeon. Apparently they were so tasty that we ate every single one. Let's get them back on the menu.

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:34 PM (JpUeg)

78
70% of these megafauna species were wiped out with the Younger Dryas. That was creative destruction of a sort that produced the world as we know it today. Just 12,000 years ago, it was a very different world.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:35 PM (w6EFb)

79 Three major fireworks displays going on simultaneously within a 3 mile radius of my house. It's awesome.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 04, 2026 10:35 PM (ceJ0R)

80 Splunge !!!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:35 PM (afJtY)

81 If you're going to start cloning extinct species, maybe start with the passenger pigeon. Apparently they were so tasty that we ate every single one. Let's get them back on the menu.
Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:34 PM (JpUeg)

As long as we extinct the damned cargo pigeons first. They shit on everything.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:36 PM (1z8ji)

82 Hey Ben Had! I've been quiet, but not absent. How have you been?

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:36 PM (JpUeg)

83 70% of these megafauna species were wiped out with the Younger Dryas. That was creative destruction of a sort that produced the world as we know it today. Just 12,000 years ago, it was a very different world.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:35 PM (w6EFb)

Joe Biden is the Older Wetass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:37 PM (1z8ji)

84 Happy Birthday to the USA, the greatest nation on Earth. Murdered by the Democrat Party, but hopefully we can revive her (and not in the Frankenstein way, that never works).

Love the Horde as always.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2026 10:37 PM (CHHv1)

85 Wow... observation.

My street is only 2 blocks long, 18 houses, and 1 Baptist church.

in 1976, the Bicentennial, every house had a flag... and even the Church had a US flag out front.

Just went out to take down my flag... and I was the ONLY Flag flying on the street.

What the has happened to my country?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 10:37 PM (mP0Kj)

86 The 🌰 chestnut needs to be brought back nonironically

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:37 PM (YeXhF)

87 Splunge, life couldn't be better. A hug to the both of you.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:37 PM (afJtY)

88 Thanks for the 250th Anniversary 3-D ONT, guys. It's great!

Happy Fourth of July to the entire horde!

Posted by: LRob in OK at July 04, 2026 10:37 PM (Jr+re)

89 >> Giant cave bears?

Arctodus simus was the name. It stood about 12' tall on it's hind legs and weighed about a ton. And it could run 40 mph.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:38 PM (w6EFb)

90 Keir Starmer's a w⚓️

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:38 PM (YeXhF)

91 People piling back into the Mall because and fireworks at 11PM EST to tell again .......

"THE DEMOCRAT_COMMIES SUCK" MOOSE DICK ......

Democrats, Hakeen Jefferies, AOC and Bernie Sanders hurt the most and devastated .........





Posted by: Jackson K. at July 04, 2026 10:38 PM (JDSUL)

92 I haven't listened to Trump's speech from Mt. Rushmore yet, but I hear it was a doozy. It probably won't replace Coolidge's speech for the 150th as my favorite Independence Day speech, but I still thank the Creator who endowed us with rights that we didn't have a Kamal word salad to mark the occasion.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 04, 2026 10:38 PM (ZWAWS)

93 Regardless of Mayor Sean Ryan's edict on fireworks in the city of Buffalo, the citizenry is ungovernable and are partying like it's 1976 ...

Be ungovernable !

Posted by: browndog says woof at July 04, 2026 10:38 PM (3sXRv)

94 77 If you're going to start cloning extinct species, maybe start with the passenger pigeon. Apparently they were so tasty that we ate every single one. Let's get them back on the menu.
Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:34 PM (JpUeg)

Don't you people even WATCH horror movies?

Clone the Passenger Pigeon? Yeah... ever see the Hitchcock movie, the Birds?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 10:38 PM (mP0Kj)

95 Sparklers are not lightsabers.

Aren't sparklers essentially Thermite On A Stick?

Posted by: Oddbob at July 04, 2026 10:39 PM (vTZFs)

96 lol AOP

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:39 PM (lfni7)

97

Part of the Brooklyn Bridge is on fire due to fireworks.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 10:40 PM (/QHx4)

98 when we were kids- quite a while ago- the Dads in our neighborhood would chip in and buy a bunch of fireworks, which they set off in the street. I can still see them, puffing on the cigars they used as punks.
The moms would each make a freezer of ice cream- all different kinds.
The Fourth was one of the best nights of the year.

Posted by: sal at July 04, 2026 10:40 PM (f+FmA)

99 Aren't sparklers essentially Thermite On A Stick?
Posted by: Oddbob at July 04, 2026 10:39 PM (vTZFs)
___

Pretty much.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:40 PM (lfni7)

100 Oregon Public Broadcasting published a thumb-sucker article:

Oregon at 250: Indigenous life in the Pacific Northwest in 1776

Guess what they forget to mention?

The rampant slavery practiced by most Northwest tribes.

Gosh, I wonder why that is?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 04, 2026 10:41 PM (aD4fx)

101
Look at the habitat map for that giant bear. All over the west coast and mid-west, but didn't get up to the NE and down the east coast. It looks like it may have gotten right here in upstate SC barely.

But it was all over Florida.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:41 PM (w6EFb)

102 “Excuse me, Mr. President. That’s not entirely accurate.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 04, 2026 10:41 PM (kYmoU)

103 Part of the Brooklyn Bridge is on fire due to fireworks.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 10:40 PM (/QHx4)
___

Hey four seasons!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:41 PM (lfni7)

104 I am rested and ready to give a Word Salad Speech on the National Mall.....

ONLY HAD TWO BOTTLES OF WINE IN THE PAST HOUR....

Cackle ......... Cackle ......... Cackle...

Posted by: Kami Harris at July 04, 2026 10:41 PM (G5jnN)

105 SMH ! I thought about have lovely your creek must have been today.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 10:42 PM (afJtY)

106 Evenin' Horde, Happy Independence Day and Happy 250th, 'Merica! Just got back from my small town's fireworks show. I don't normally get into fireworks much, but it was great. Yesterday I went to the next town's celebration, just for the speeches and the reenactors firing muskets and cannon.

Best thing I did today was watch most of the flyovers from DC. So awesome.

I was almost 3 years old for the Bicentennial, so I have no memory of it. I've found some mementos in my mom's things. (She kept everything!)

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 04, 2026 10:42 PM (hPLSE)

107 the Dads in our neighborhood would chip in and buy a bunch of fireworks, which they set off in the street.


Our last neighborhood near OKC, that was the protocol. Lots of families set off their fireworks at the end of their driveways. It was magnificent most of the time. Some teenagers didn't seem to have much "fireworks safety" in them and minor injuries occurred. All in all, a good time!

Posted by: LRob in OK at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (Jr+re)

108 Thermite, handy stuff.

Posted by: Walter White at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (Q+gd/)

109 Despite the sorry state of Massachusetts these days when I was growing up Independence Day was a big deal there. One of the best celebrations was the Boston Pops playing at the Hatch Shell on the Esplanade and the big finish. Never changed, just got bigger every year and it always finished with Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture and cannons.

https://tinyurl.com/3aywfnv5

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (viF8m)

110 Arctodus simus - if alive today some idiot teenager with a cell phone would be trying to take selfie with her cubs

Posted by: Darwin über alles at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (YeXhF)

111 Evening all,

I hope you all have had a great day.

We have a launch in the morning.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 10-50
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: July 5, 2026
Launch Time: 6:46 a.m. EDT (1046 UTC, 12:46 CEST)

https://youtu.be/dgpVSxrAPKc

Posted by: Joyenz at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (2F0/Y)

112 I wonder sometimes how many democrats you could convince to go into a buffalo herd and pet a calf?

On a related note, my autocorrect tried changing Democrat to demon. Does it know something I don't?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (qx7Zg)

113 They are working on the chestnut. Because of regulations on edible products they can't just CRISPR Asian chestnuts into the trees to make them resistant to blight, they have to make hybrids by selective crosses and selection.
There are some orchards already, but not a full program yet

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (rbvCR)

114 56 You know about the cup sizes??

Once upon a time....but I had to give up one to cancer.
Now I have one good triple D😜....
It works for the crazy people on GRINDR...
Oh....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 10:44 PM (uTEOj)

115 Hey Ben Had!

Ex-Ex got a bit too much sun at the creek, so he turned in early.

After he set off a rocket, of course.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:44 PM (lfni7)

116

Hello SMH!!

I enjoy reading your comments about your wonderful new location.

May you all have many many wonderful years there.



Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 10:45 PM (/QHx4)

117 112 I wonder sometimes how many democrats you could convince to go into a buffalo herd and pet a calf?

On a related note, my autocorrect tried changing Democrat to demon. Does it know something I don't?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (qx7Zg)

Well, I HAVE been misspelling it to DEMONcrat for awhile now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 10:45 PM (mP0Kj)

118 Just went out to take down my flag... and I was the ONLY Flag flying on the street.

What the has happened to my country?


Just mine and two others on my street. It's indeed very sad.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 04, 2026 10:45 PM (ceJ0R)

119 >> some idiot teenager with a cell phone

Who would soon be a steaming pile of bear shit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:45 PM (w6EFb)

120 @85 - the Democrat party, the media, the entertainment industry, the Communists and their love of Islam.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2026 10:46 PM (CHHv1)

121 The 4th. was cool when I was a kid

Posted by: Case at July 04, 2026 10:47 PM (IY9No)

122 Some teenagers didn't seem to have much "fireworks safety" in them and minor injuries occurred. All in all, a good time!
Posted by: LRob in OK at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (Jr+re)

Word. Our dad would sometimes have to leave to go repair somebody's eye, if he was on call.
Ever put a firecracker in a gourd and throw it up in the air? He took us up to the railroad tracks to do that- it was kind of messy...

Posted by: sal at July 04, 2026 10:47 PM (f+FmA)

123 The Fourth was one of the best nights of the year.
Posted by: sal at July 04, 2026 10:40 PM (f+FmA)

Denver 25 years ago was pretty much a free fire zone.

75 miles to the border to get REAL fireworks. So yeah... taught my kids how to have bottle rocket fights.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 10:48 PM (mP0Kj)

124 Our flag stays up, since there's a solar-powered finial that illuminates the flag during the night.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:48 PM (lfni7)

125 Windows on the house are shaking.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:48 PM (jU8k8)

126 Put a communist in a helicopter, he flies for a few hours.
Toss a communist out of a helicopter, he flies for the rest of his life.
- Augusto Pinochet

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 04, 2026 10:48 PM (MNCvZ)

127

yak, yak, he's not coming back.

Star Yak Ranch in Wyoming lost a yak to a lightning strike.

I didn't know there is a Yak Ranch in Wyoming.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 10:48 PM (/QHx4)

128 >>The 4th. was cool when I was a kid

Still cool. We are the most blessed people to have ever walked the earth. Sometimes we forget that.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (viF8m)

129 You know what has changed a lot in the last, I dunno, maybe 10 or so years? The quality of consumer grade fireworks. I'm looking out the window right now and it looks like a small town's professional show from 20 years ago.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (vTZFs)

130 Funky to think that South America except Brazil is now MAGA

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (YeXhF)

131 110 Arctodus simus - if alive today some idiot teenager with a cell phone would be trying to take selfie with her cubs
Posted by: Darwin �ber alles at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (YeXhF)

You say that like it's a bad idea.

Posted by: Timothy Treadwell at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (ZWAWS)

132
At the hospital this evening with my mother, one of the nurses (who is about the nicest, sweetest thing I've ever seen) said they're gearing up in the ER tonight for the mostly young and/or drunk idiots who shouldn't be allowed to play with fireworks.

She said they got a few in last night, but not as much as last year. But tonight will the the big night.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (w6EFb)

133 Arctodus simus - if alive today some idiot teenager with a cell phone would be trying to take selfie with her cubs
Posted by: Darwin �ber alles at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (YeXhF)

Giant cave bears could be useful. "Where did that annoying antifa fag get to? Dunno, maybe a cave bear got him."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (1z8ji)

134 Most of my neighbors are out of town this weekend. I stand watch in their absence.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (rdVOm)

135 108 Thermite, handy stuff.
Yes!

When you don't get out to the fireworks, why not🧨??

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 10:51 PM (uTEOj)

136 133 Arctodus simus - if alive today some idiot teenager with a cell phone would be trying to take selfie with her cubs
Posted by: Darwin �ber alles at July 04, 2026 10:43 PM (YeXhF)

Giant cave bears could be useful. "Where did that annoying antifa fag get to? Dunno, maybe a cave bear got him."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:50 PM (1z8ji)

Yeah... ya know all those Womenz a few months back that said they would choose a Bear over a Man?

OK then...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 10:51 PM (mP0Kj)

137 In 1976 my mom bought a little (wooden! today it would be cheap plastic!) flag stand that holds five little historic US flags plus the Bicentennial flag which is white with a red and blue logo in the middle. I remember that logo was everywhere in 1976. (AFAIK there's no official flag or logo for the 250th.)

My other Bicentennial item is a little cloth Benjamin Franklin doll from the Hallmark store that came in packaging that looks like his Philly row house. One of the things most noticeable about it now is, there's no bar code.

I saw the air show over the Hudson River this morning and a few of the tall ships but gave up after a few ships because of the heat. I've always wanted to see a B2 bomber and sure enough one of 'em flew over with two fighter jet escorts. And I got to see some fireworks out my bedroom window tonight, probably the Jersey City one, so my Fourth was complete.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 04, 2026 10:51 PM (tM5h4)

138 I want the top photo, appropriately clothed for the occasion, to appear on all major holidays.
Even if they don't all three contribute.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: sal at July 04, 2026 10:51 PM (f+FmA)

139 What part of the Brooklyn Bridge is flammable and why?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 04, 2026 10:53 PM (kd1a0)

140 The 4th is somewhat our anniversary.

It's the day, 38 years ago, when I asked Ex-Ex to take me to the nearest place to buy some beer.
My dad had just dropped me off at the barracks after spending the day with him...and my mom.
By the time I got back to the barracks, the Shoppette was closed, and I needed a drink.

That was kinda our first date.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:53 PM (lfni7)

141
Nemo,

I wondered about that also.

Article on Daily Mail. I didn't read the whole article.

Madman has probably fired all the fire people.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 10:54 PM (/QHx4)

142 Hurst Performance had a thriving business as a specialty car builder for major automakers in the late 1960s, producing special high-performance models for Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Plymouth, and others, but the AMC Hurst SC/Rambler is undoubtedly one of the most visually distinctive vehicles that emerged from these collaborations

My 64 Plymouth Valiant had the long chrome gearshift with Hurst on it topped with a white cueball etched with 4 speed pattern, 273 engine. Slicker than snot.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 10:56 PM (LHPAg)

143 I want mammoths. The northern America needs mammoths 🦣
Make it happen Trump
Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:21 PM

Some charlatan claimed he cloned mammoths a few years ago but it was really an elephant with some spliced-in shaggy hair genes or something. Whatever it was, it was not a mammoth.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 04, 2026 10:56 PM (tM5h4)

144 Jujubee, they did a bullshit direwolf too.
I think the mammoth has a better chance

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 10:57 PM (YeXhF)

145 "The northern America needs mammoths"

I'd settle for magpies. Somebody introduce us some magpies. Spice up our lives a bit.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 10:57 PM (Jr5Lq)

146 Well the fireworks seem to have settled down some. Guess the folks must have used them up. I really don't mind them shooting them off, just don't like my pets being freaked out. They don't understand what's going on.

Posted by: Case at July 04, 2026 10:58 PM (IY9No)

147

We have lots of magpies here in SW Wyoming.

They are large and loud.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 10:59 PM (/QHx4)

148 I'm back.

I was gone for a few minutes. I noticed the wind blowing toward the purple-haired, nose-ringed Prius- driving Obama voting Vegans next door so I threw some steaks on the grill for dinner.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 10:59 PM (QGaXH)

149 Some charlatan claimed he cloned mammoths a few years ago but it was really an elephant with some spliced-in shaggy hair genes or something. Whatever it was, it was not a mammoth.
Posted by: JuJuBee at July 04, 2026 10:56 PM (tM5h4)

I saw Shaggy Hair Genes open for the Crew Cuts at Maple Leaf Gardens in '62.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 11:00 PM (1z8ji)

150 Can I tell you a little secret? I am not a fan of "The Star Spangled Banner" being our national anthem I would prefer "America the Beautiful."

https://youtu.be/igqy0NxZIfQ

Posted by: tankdemon at July 04, 2026 11:00 PM (ZWAWS)

151 77 If you're going to start cloning extinct species, maybe start with the passenger pigeon. Apparently they were so tasty that we ate every single one. Let's get them back on the menu.
Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:34 PM (JpUeg)
__________________

I wonder how many know that cloning of animals is now and everyday occurrence. There is a company called Viagen that will clone a pet for about $50,000 and clone a horse for about $85,000. It's a little scandalous from the perspective of horse racing...and dog shows. People are cloning their winners, and others are calling this cheating.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 11:00 PM (dIske)

152 "They are large and loud."

That's the ticket! Bring the mischief.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:00 PM (Jr5Lq)

153 Guess Trump will give his speech. I'll listen to him.

Posted by: Case at July 04, 2026 11:01 PM (IY9No)

154 "Well the fireworks seem to have settled down some."

10PM here. Amateur fireworks are on the upswing until midnight. That's when the celebratory gunfire begins.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:01 PM (Jr5Lq)

155

gp,

The dogs hate them, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 11:02 PM (/QHx4)

156 Good evening morons and Слава Тройке!

They are trying to have fireworks tonight off the Golden Gate Bridge. The cloud base is 700 feet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 11:02 PM (RIvkX)

157 Lots of magpies here. I think they ate the corpse of the gopher I shot this morning. Of course it had to sit in the Sun all day to get ripe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 11:02 PM (1z8ji)

158 Those of us not allowed in may or may not have Bicentennial coins, medals, and first day covers. Could be worth $$ or not.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2026 11:03 PM (XdwHx)

159

The magpies sometimes divebomb our little dogs, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 11:03 PM (/QHx4)

160 The Jews used to say next year in Jerusalem. Next year on the Moon

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 11:04 PM (YeXhF)

161 I wonder how many know that cloning of animals is now and everyday occurrence. There is a company called Viagen that will clone a pet for about $50,000 and clone a horse for about $85,000. It's a little scandalous from the perspective of horse racing...and dog shows. People are cloning their winners, and others are calling this cheating.
Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 11:00 PM (dIske)

Proposal: for every Sidney Sweeney you clone, you have to unclone one Trigglypuff.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 11:05 PM (1z8ji)

162 Our good girl doggeh was *not* afraid of fireworks or thunder...

She'd run back and forth along the fence, barking and challenging those big noises!

Such a protective girl, she was. Miss that ol' mutt.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 11:05 PM (rdVOm)

163 Americans are the indigenous people of the Moon you know

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 11:05 PM (YeXhF)

164 "The magpies sometimes divebomb our little dogs, lol."

I don't want those. I want the ones that thieve cash and jewelry. Our crows do their best, no doubt, but there's plenty of room for improvement.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:05 PM (Jr5Lq)

165 Oh my gosh, a 3D ONT and I can't find my glasses.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 04, 2026 11:06 PM (ibDUx)

166 Enjoying a bbq rib eye and cold beer in honor of the USA.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 11:06 PM (QGaXH)

167 Trump's favorite opera is on, therefore, fireworks are up shortly.

https://tinyurl.com/ys6fmyr9

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 11:07 PM (jU8k8)

168 "Americans are the indigenous people of the Moon you know"

That is so true! Plus, we stuck a flag in it, which (according to Eddie Izzard) makes it ours.

Posted by: tankascribe at July 04, 2026 11:07 PM (NtoJk)

169 Can I tell you a little secret? I am not a fan of "The Star Spangled Banner" being our national anthem I would prefer "America the Beautiful."

https://youtu.be/igqy0NxZIfQ
Posted by: tankdemon at July 04, 2026 11:00 PM (ZWAWS)

Because we're America, we have like four or five "national anthems".
I can't choose a favorite, though I love the lyrics to "AtB".

Posted by: sal at July 04, 2026 11:08 PM (f+FmA)

170 165 Oh my gosh, a 3D ONT and I can't find my glasses.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 04, 2026 11:06 PM
***
Well played.
Good evening DDS.

Posted by: TRex - 3D dino at July 04, 2026 11:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

171 Hey DDS!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 11:08 PM (lfni7)

172
Happy Birthday to the USA, the greatest nation on Earth. Murdered by the Democrat Party, but hopefully we can revive her (and not in the Frankenstein way, that never works).

If you use the correct brain ...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2026 11:08 PM (Cqx++)

173

It is so foggy at Wrigley Field you can't see the scoreboard.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 11:09 PM (/QHx4)

174
Americans are the indigenous people of the Moon you know

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 11:05 PM (YeXhF)

____________

Like hell!

Posted by: The Selenite Tribe at July 04, 2026 11:09 PM (O0L8i)

175 The neighbors just shot their wad of fireworks. It was nice to watch. I live in a mixed area. Nice to see newcomers appreciate the 4th. Now I will watch PDJT.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM (Snklc)

176 I'm on the riverbank near the five sided money pump looking at the monument. Rain has stopped and weather is comfortable. Everyone is in a good mood and patient, waiting for it to start.

Lots and lots and LOTS of people.

'Murrica!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM (kde3w)

177 Cubs fans singing Country Roads on 4th Of July during a fog delay at Wrigley. For those who don’t know that’s become the unofficial song of the US soccer team.

That’s pretty cool.

USA!! USA!! USA!!

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM (Qlrgu)

178 Paul Pelosi got into a hit and run with a parked car today
🔨

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM (YeXhF)

179 Waiting for Cat to come inside for his evening treat-- then I can go out and light this pack of firecrackers. They need to go, but Cat likes to follow me around like a puppy and sniff everything I touch. Want to avoid hurting him!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM (rdVOm)

180 I believe in America because we have great dreams, and because we have the opportunity to make those dreams come true." – Wendell Willkie

The life of the nation is secure only while the nation is honest, truthful and virtuous." – Frederick Douglass

I hope lots of my Horde friends got to get out for the celebration and fireworks. It just got late here, and being 29+, I'm ready for naps🤭💤💤...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 11:11 PM (uTEOj)

181 175
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM
***
Nice to see you here! Feels like it has been a minute or two...

Posted by: TRex - diplomatic dino at July 04, 2026 11:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

182
To bed. Hope my being there comforts Diana, who's having a rough evening.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 11:11 PM (O0L8i)

183 Paul Pelosi got into a hit and run with a parked car today
🔨
Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM (YeXhF)

And the parked car won, two falls out of three.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 11:12 PM (1z8ji)

184 "I am not a fan of "The Star Spangled Banner""

I always sing the bass melody to it. People turn around and look at me. I don't care, because it rocks.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:12 PM (Jr5Lq)

185
Sabre tooth cat: Smilodon fatalis (fatal smile?)

Here, kitty kitty.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 11:12 PM (w6EFb)

186 >>Americans are the indigenous people of the Moon you know

https://tinyurl.com/3f93ru9d

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 11:12 PM (viF8m)

187 Oh, hey. Lee Greenwood is still alive. How about that.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 11:12 PM (ntk8v)

188

Our little dog is terrified. She won't go outside to do her business. We're hoping it's not going to be a long term problem.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 11:13 PM (/QHx4)

189 176 I'm on the riverbank near the five sided money pump looking at the monument.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 11:10 PM
***
Great location! Enjoy!

Posted by: TRex - front row dino at July 04, 2026 11:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

190 158 Those of us not allowed in may or may not have Bicentennial coins, medals, and first day covers. Could be worth $$ or not.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2026 11:03 PM (XdwHx)

Not worth much. I got an album of Bicentennial 1776 First Day covers, a 1976 $2 bill and U.S. Mint Bicentennial Medal.

Posted by: Joemarine at July 04, 2026 11:14 PM (y171U)

191 I hope everyone who wanted to see fireworks did! From our vantage, we saw Fairhope’s, obviously, but we also saw Mobile’s and the show over the USS Alabama. We even saw some of Dauphin Island’s.

Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2026 11:14 PM (Wmg4n)

192 Oh, hey. Lee Greenwood is still alive. How about that.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 11:12 PM (ntk8v)

Friend in Gilbert, AZ plays on-line chess with Lee Greenwood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 11:15 PM (1z8ji)

193 Hey Piper!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 11:15 PM (lfni7)

194
Just imagine what Marlin Perkins would have poor Jim doing if they could somehow go back to the late Pleistocene.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 11:15 PM (w6EFb)

195 {{{DDS}}}

OH so lovely to see you girl!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 11:15 PM (uTEOj)

196
Trump's up.

always

But right now, too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 11:16 PM (jU8k8)

197 176 I'm on the riverbank near the five sided money pump looking at the monument.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty



'Waves from office in basement of five sided money pump.'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 11:16 PM (ntk8v)

198 The upside to celebratory gunfire: The sky is an excellent target. Very hard to miss.

Downside: Waste of good ammo.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:17 PM (Jr5Lq)

199 I think the only thing I have left from the bicentennial is a bunch of quarters and the Marvel Comics 1976 calendar. Filled with very cool images. It only worked this year until February 28, though, because 1976 was a leap year.

I did pick up a bag of bicentennial flag pins. Betsy Ross flag on the left and modern on the right. Just enough to give one to each of my siblings and their spouses, as well as my dad.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 04, 2026 11:18 PM (kYmoU)

200 celebratory gunfire: The sky is an excellent target. Very hard to miss.

If it doesn't make orbit, it missed

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 11:19 PM (YeXhF)

201 Hi SMH! I had to pop back up and read the content.

Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2026 11:20 PM (Wmg4n)

202 If it doesn't make orbit, it missed

You can’t take the sky from me.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 04, 2026 11:20 PM (kYmoU)

203 The upside to celebratory gunfire: The sky is an excellent target. Very hard to miss.

Downside: Waste of good ammo.
Posted by: gp

Also downside: what goes up, must come down. Somewhere.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 11:20 PM (rdVOm)

204 >> If it doesn't make orbit, it missed

*glares*

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at July 04, 2026 11:21 PM (w6EFb)

205 You can’t take the sky from me.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Watch me.

Posted by: Constantine Tsiolkovsky at July 04, 2026 11:22 PM (YeXhF)

206 "If it doesn't make orbit, it missed"

I once fired eight rounds from a Garand at the place where I reckoned the moon would be when they got there. I waited 17 days in anticipation, then readied my telescope. But I miscalculated: it was a new moon, and I couldn't see shit. Drat.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

207 Not worth much. I got an album of Bicentennial 1776 First Day covers, a 1976 $2 bill and U.S. Mint Bicentennial Medal.
Posted by: Joemarine at July 04, 2026 11:14 PM (y171U)

I don't expect much from them, but at 300, my kids may make some money from them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2026 11:25 PM (aVvqF)

208 "Also downside: what goes up, must come down. Somewhere."

Yes, we had a baby in arms who was injured by a round of 45ACP returning from the zenith at one of our Fourth celebrations years back. But most of the kids shot in Illinois are hit by rounds fired roughly horizontally, throughout the year.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:26 PM (Jr5Lq)

209 I need to double check this, but someone posted a meme that our museum ships would form the second most powerful navy in the world.

Of the top of my head, it would have 2 Essex class carriers, 5 battleships, probably cruisers and destroyers, and at least 2 submarines (USS Cobia and U-505]

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 11:28 PM (qx7Zg)

210 Uh, I get it. Trump likes to talk but there is another storm cell heading to DC, they may need to get on with it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 11:29 PM (ntk8v)

211
Still no word on the cause Bezos New Glenn explosion.

The spaceflight press says there's leak that it's a problem with the BE-4 engine itself. And that would be bad, because ULA's new Vulcan rocket uses the same engine.

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at July 04, 2026 11:30 PM (w6EFb)

212 I hate our president is behind glass, but at this point I get why.

Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2026 11:30 PM (Wmg4n)

213 Starliner/Boeing is also not looking great.
I don't actually want Musk to be emperor of the solar system but his competitors need not to be incompetent

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 11:32 PM (YeXhF)

214
That explosion destroyed their transporter-erector. Rather than try to build an new, they're going to use a crane to stack the rockets right at the pad, they say.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 11:33 PM (w6EFb)

215 "I hate our president is behind glass, but at this point I get why."

If I were Secret Service, I'd be worrying a lot about drones.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:33 PM (Jr5Lq)

216 >>>Can I tell you a little secret? I am not a fan of "The Star Spangled Banner" being our national anthem I would prefer "America the Beautiful."

Both have some powerful lines in them that are stunning.

I learned to love the Star Spangled Banner after 9/11. Among all that rubble, the sight of those firefighters raising the flag...the flag was still there. It gave me chills and it still does.

And I learned to love America the Beautiful from reading The Westing Game. No joke.

Grateful we have them both!

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 11:35 PM (gWBY1)

217 >> but his competitors need not to be incompetent

I'm pulling for all them, now. If we're going to get back to the Moon and establish Moonbase Alpha, we're gonna need all of them.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 11:36 PM (w6EFb)

218 Wishing you all a continued happy and meaningful Independence Day weekend.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 04, 2026 11:37 PM (QNSrI)

219 A B1 is orbiting outside of DC, so looks like an afterburner flyover before the fireworks may be on!

Posted by: TRex - air traffic control dino at July 04, 2026 11:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

220 Here's the museum fleet breakdown, WWII and newer.

5 carriers
8 battleships
1 heavy cruiser
1 light cruiser
8 destroyers
2 destroyer escorts
22 fleet submarines

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 11:39 PM (qx7Zg)

221 Latest NWS observation for our area: smoke. Whoda thunkit?

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:40 PM (Jr5Lq)

222 “I was asking this as a trivia question to some friends today, "What is the oldest government in the world and I got answers like Germany or Italy and...not even close.”

Germany and Italy? Are these people idiots?

Mexico’s government has been in existence longer than either of theirs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 11:40 PM (H8EHh)

223
Jared Isaacman (NASA administrator) led a flyover earlier in his own F-5 Tiger. He owns several of those.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 11:40 PM (w6EFb)

224 Independence Day has always been my 2nd favorite holiday, right behind Christmas, but this one will forever hold a special place in my heart.

Thank you, America, for showing the world your true nature through your kind and generous treatment of our World Cup guests! Your inherent goodness has opened the eyes of our international critics, and completely destroyed the hateful narratives employed incessantly by the American Left.

It has given me tremendous joy, watching Communists weeping in the comments on YouTube, while desperately declaring that no one here could be having a good time, and that this is all propaganda.

Nope, propaganda is for Commies. America inspires true greatness in all of us. May Almighty God bless and keep the United States of America!

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 04, 2026 11:40 PM (X+xvk)

225 DJT is bringing out WWII vets. They are all so old. God bless them. I miss my Granddad.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 04, 2026 11:41 PM (Snklc)

226 Germany and Italy? Are these people idiots?

---------

Both 1871, right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2026 11:41 PM (6/7Fs)

227 If Trump will just shut up, we can have fireworks on the actual 4th.
On the plus side, there are some ancient warriors getting some love.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 04, 2026 11:41 PM (iaABv)

228 @SecRollins
Unfortunately, the weather may have disrupted parts of the @Freedom250 celebration, but we were grateful to open the beautiful @USDA building to provide shelter. And then this happened… these incredible patriots spontaneously broke into the National Anthem.🇺🇸
I love my country.

Very cool!

And the fireworks at Epcot looked epic.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 11:42 PM (gWBY1)

229 "What is the oldest government in the world?" Sumer?

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:42 PM (Jr5Lq)

230 Before I get into the content and comments, I thought I'd report on our 4th, in case I pass out soon.

Daughter and her husband are moving into the house down near the gate. Still much work to be done on the place, but before the floors get torn up and the wall knocked down, they've stayed a few nights, and tonight had a kind of pre-housewarming Independence Day party.

Family and good friends and dogs, all kinds of delicious food and beverage, a furious thunderstorm with the electricity going off and on off and on again, concluding (after the deluge ended) with a most excellent fireworks show. From their front porch, we could see four different distant big shows, also.

As far as comparisons, God wins, with spectacular lightning and thunder in all directions.

America at its finest.

Posted by: mindful webworker is full and happy and smells of fireworks at July 04, 2026 11:43 PM (tQ0hn)

231
Sitting on the patio.

So many dogs howling. I feel for them.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 11:43 PM (/QHx4)

232 "Jared Isaacman" Impressive guy, IMHO.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:43 PM (Jr5Lq)

233 Nice seeing the Artemis crew and Schmidt.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 11:43 PM (kpS4V)

234 229 "What is the oldest government in the world?" Sumer?

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Pfft

Posted by: Gobekli Tepe at July 04, 2026 11:44 PM (6/7Fs)

235
President Trump knows how to throw great celebrations.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 11:45 PM (/QHx4)

236 Lit my lil pack of 'crackers... only two duds. They're fairly old, think maybe a decade?

Got the mess hosed down into the grass & destroyed the duds. All clear! Cat can resume his outdoor travels.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 11:45 PM (rdVOm)

237 Ur or Uruk, possibly.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2026 11:46 PM (6/7Fs)

238 From Japan:

https://tinyurl.com/m3c7zymj

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 11:46 PM (lfni7)

239 The upside to celebratory gunfire: The sky is an excellent target. Very hard to miss.

Downside: Waste of good ammo.
Posted by: gp
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12 ga No. 7 1/2
Even in intended use, 80% of it is gonna miss anyway.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 04, 2026 11:47 PM (iaABv)

240 Back from the fireworks show. No, you are not alone TxAnn.

Posted by: fd at July 04, 2026 11:49 PM (MWfyi)

241 Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 04, 2026 11:41 PM (Snklc)

And this is when I whip out the Kleenex. I miss my dad and his three brothers. All WWII vets who all made it home. They took a portrait together in uniform on 12/24/45 for my grandmother. It’s on the wall with my Dads flag and the helmet he wore. My house is essentially a museum.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 04, 2026 11:50 PM (SjAWL)

242 17 It's hard to believe that it has been 50 years since the Highcentennial.
Posted by: toby928(c) at July 04, 2026 10:12 PM (4NO2D)

********************
*Air horn!

We were on Dauphin Island, Alabama with my family in a beach house. After watching fireworks my brother and I partied alone under gorgeous skies on the beach and listening to the Gulf. I remember looking at those skies and wondering if someday soon I would meet the right guy who might be looking at those same skies that night. We met two months later and are still young at heart.

Good times. Tonight was much quieter with son and his family and we were behaving. Also a good time and the baby girl's first Independence Day in her little red, white and blue outfit. The other two were wearing a soccer jersey (7yr old), and my mini-me girl wore a sparkly pink dress because she likes pink.

I honestly would not trade loving my grands for my fantastic youth as I've had both and am blessed in all ways.

Happy Independence Day, y'all!

At least we don't have Startled Starmer as our "leader." He probably would startle, stutter, and weep if he heard a firecracker and need the ED after his nightly colonoscopy with Macron jolt.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 04, 2026 11:51 PM (hzuYO)

243 I guess I'll go now.
I love to see the Horde interact, and that I can be here. I surely am not a big part of this community; you all are so close. Ive onle been here about 7 years, but I surely love being here!
Good night wonderful people. I'm glad I get to be here💕
Happy birthday America!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2026 11:51 PM (uTEOj)

244
Artemis II crew threw the first pitch(es) at the Nationals park today. Christina went last, and they didn't show where her ball went, while they showed the other guys.

We'll just not worry too much about that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 04, 2026 11:53 PM (w6EFb)

245 Grilled 2 NY strips and had a great meal, then went to watch the fireworks here. All in all its been a good day.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen? at July 04, 2026 11:54 PM (Q/FnY)

246 My house is essentially a museum.
Posted by: TxAnn at July 04, 2026 11:50 PM (SjAWL)

Snaps fingers twice.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2026 11:54 PM (zl9PI)

247 Still light out here...sunset. Lots of popping in the distance!

It'll be dark enough in a half hour or so. Will see if anyone is still around to fire off some "big stuff" then.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 11:54 PM (rdVOm)

248 Good night COMountainMarie!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2026 11:55 PM (CHHv1)

249 That museum fleet is about 3 times the size (and power) of the current British navy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 11:56 PM (H8EHh)

250 Mmmm, i could go for a steak. Don't have any.

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 04, 2026 11:56 PM (DZ9Lv)

251 Just rendered what I have so far on the latest project. Damn, 10 minutes of nonsense.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2026 11:56 PM (CHHv1)

252

Brooklyn Bridge Set Ablaze During Fireworks Display

https://t.ly/LyRJi

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2026 11:56 PM (Cqx++)

253 I thawed a hamburger patty for tonight. Don't know if I'll get around to cooking it, LOL.

Won't hurt me to drink my dinner. Been a long while since last time.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 11:57 PM (rdVOm)

254 250 Mmmm, i could go for a steak. Don't have any.

Posted by: Dark Lix. at July 04, 2026 11:56 PM
***
Congratulations! Someone was going to be post number 250 and it is YOU!

The Club ONT prize drawer is a little thin at the moment, but stop by next week and we'll take care of you.

Posted by: TRex - prize distributor dino at July 04, 2026 11:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

255 Good speech. Happy Birthday America!

Posted by: Case at July 04, 2026 11:58 PM (IY9No)

256 And this is when I whip out the Kleenex. I miss my dad and his three brothers. All WWII vets who all made it home. They took a portrait together in uniform on 12/24/45 for my grandmother. It’s on the wall with my Dads flag and the helmet he wore. My house is essentially a museum.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 04, 2026 11:50 PM (SjAWL)

Bless you. And bless your family for their service.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 04, 2026 11:59 PM (Snklc)

257 Just got home with Pookette. Our town doesn't do fireworks, so we have to head elsewhere every 4th of July. The neighboring town puts on quite a good show that was 25 minutes long this year! The haze had reached us by the end and my eyes were stinging, so that's how I know it was a good time!

Posted by: pookysgirl, chugging water at July 04, 2026 11:59 PM (Wt5PA)

258 Reading about our founders, refreshing my memory of what these great men put at stake, made me realize how unbelievably fortunate we have been to have Donald Trump in office.

They stripped him of his 1st amendment rights. They tried to kick him off ballots in 25 states. They rewrote laws to persecute and prosecute him. They sought to bankrupt him, and to imprison him for life. They have now made at least three attempts on his life.

Donald Trump would have been one of those men risking it all for freedom. His signature would have been right there next to John Hancock's, but probably in even larger text.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 04, 2026 11:59 PM (X+xvk)

259 Brooklyn Bridge Set Ablaze During Fireworks Display


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I was hoping they'd start with Gracie Mansion.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2026 11:59 PM (6/7Fs)

260 And speaking of my dad, he kept everything. So my bicentennial show and tell is the Sunday July 4, 1976 edition of the now defunct Houston Post. The headline on it: “The battle for liberty never ends.” Truer words have never been spoken.

The fire hydrants across the country were painted red, white and blue. It was so huge and I’m grateful 19 yo me was there to see America as it used to be.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 05, 2026 12:00 AM (SjAWL)

261 238 From Japan:

https://tinyurl.com/m3c7zymj
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 11:46 PM (lfni7)
_________________________

Japan is, currently, our best ally. Just watch what they do for us at the end of this month. Trump and Carney are set to meet over the USMCA. Carney is going to be stubborn, and Trump's going to activate the 6 month timeclock to dissolve the USMCA. As part of that Toyota and Honda is going to pull all their manufacturing out of Canada. They've already stated that they would do so.

Posted by: Orson at July 05, 2026 12:01 AM (dIske)

262 25 to 6 or 4 ? Seriously?

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 05, 2026 12:01 AM (Snklc)

263 A flyover by a retooled UFO would be awesome.

Whoa, intense fireworks! Wonder if some are Hilary's leftovers?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 12:01 AM (kpS4V)

264 Saving the American Lemonade recipe for when I can finally drink again, which will be in about 7 months.

Posted by: pookysgirl misses the relaxation sometimes at July 05, 2026 12:01 AM (Wt5PA)

265 In D.C. they litterally started fireworks at 11:59. So, officially still July 4th fireworks?

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 05, 2026 12:02 AM (xqQi7)

266 My neighbors about a block away are doing a little homegrown fireworks celebration. Not legal inside city limits, but the cops have better things to do than chase down a thousand fireworks shooters tonight.

Ooh - they just set off one that made the doors rattle! Well that spooked the cat enough that he ran inside and hid.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 12:02 AM (H8EHh)

267 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wFFAVUxnIvU

DC fireworks !

Posted by: Steck at July 05, 2026 12:02 AM (LlRQB)

268 That is a metric shitload of fireworks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 12:02 AM (6/7Fs)

269 Japan is, currently, our best ally. Just watch what they do for us at the end of this month. Trump and Carney are set to meet over the USMCA. Carney is going to be stubborn, and Trump's going to activate the 6 month timeclock to dissolve the USMCA. As part of that Toyota and Honda is going to pull all their manufacturing out of Canada. They've already stated that they would do so.

Posted by: Orson

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God bless Japan. The free world needs them as a significant counterweight to Communist China.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:03 AM (X+xvk)

270 I would have settled for the UN building.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 12:03 AM (6/7Fs)

271 85 Wow... observation.

My street is only 2 blocks long, 18 houses, and 1 Baptist church.

in 1976, the Bicentennial, every house had a flag... and even the Church had a US flag out front.

Just went out to take down my flag... and I was the ONLY Flag flying on the street.

What the has happened to my country?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 10:37 PM (mP0Kj)

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Q: what has happened to our country?

A: the Dept of Education

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 05, 2026 12:03 AM (THY4u)

272 I read every thing in the ONT except for the disclaimer. I'm more of a dat claimer.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2026 12:04 AM (n5tGW)

273 Journey?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 12:05 AM (6/7Fs)

274 WTAF?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 05, 2026 12:06 AM (6/7Fs)

275 The Chicago song 25 or 6 to 4 was a good song to go with all the fireworks.

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 12:06 AM (IY9No)

276 Don't stop believin'

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 05, 2026 12:06 AM (Snklc)

277 Well, the day is catching up with me, and I am getting sleepy. The scavengers finally carried off the corpus delicti of the gopher I shot this morning. I guess it had to ripen in the Sun all day to get their interest, LOL.

Night, Horde, and enjoy the waning hours of the Glorious Fourth!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2026 12:07 AM (1z8ji)

278 "More gopher, Everett?"

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:08 AM (X+xvk)

279 DM sez Brooklyn Bridge fire extinguished after half hour.

Posted by: gp at July 05, 2026 12:09 AM (Jr5Lq)

280 Well, the good news is that the Ozone depletion has cooled the southern oceans, probably staving off global warming or something.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2026 12:09 AM (rbvCR)

281 Bless you. And bless your family for their service.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 04, 2026 11:59 PM (Snklc)

Thank you. I do what I can to make sure that their sacrifice will not have been in vain. There would have been a 5th brother (like the Sullivans) but he drowned in a boating accident at 22 in 1941.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 05, 2026 12:10 AM (SjAWL)

282 Evenin’, All.

I watched 1776 today, as usual. Excellent!

Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 12:10 AM (77rzZ)

283 Within the first two minutes the fireworks show put the usual 15-minute Capitol Fourth display to shame.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 12:11 AM (pJK38)

284 Q: what has happened to our country?

A: the Dept of Education
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 05, 2026 12:03 AM (THY4u)

That’s Edumacation to you, buddy!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 12:11 AM (H8EHh)

285 I read somewhere that there are 850,000 pyrotechnic charges involved in this fireworks display. Damn, that's a lot.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 05, 2026 12:12 AM (ceJ0R)

286 Trolling Bon Jovi now. Lol. These assholes could have helped out. Now they can eat a bag of ducks God Bless America.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 05, 2026 12:12 AM (Snklc)

287 Dang, those songs were probably played at the bicentennial.

#2 son had some easy listening 60-70s channel on his truck today. Simon & Garfunkel, America, CSN, etc. I didn't say anything but sheesh, how many generations are going to still be listening to that stuff?

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 12:12 AM (MWfyi)

288 To whichever star canceled for tonight's bash. Thank you, I'm enjoying the Military musicians.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 05, 2026 12:13 AM (PV+Zw)

289 I can only assume the Dems will be on the Sunday morning shows claiming Trump has dangerously depleted our strategic fireworks supply.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 05, 2026 12:13 AM (w/O5Q)

290 Sigh. I guess YMCA ain't goin' away anytime soon.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 05, 2026 12:14 AM (ceJ0R)

291 Q: what has happened to our country?

A: the Dept of Education
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 05, 2026 12:03 AM (THY4u)

No parents were there to pass on the importance of patriotism. This is what happens when everything is left to the schools.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 12:14 AM (pKv0r)

292 guess YMCA ain't goin' away anytime soon.

young man, I was once in your shoes

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 12:15 AM (gKWVE)

293 Shout out to our medical insurance company that decided to send us an email about our benefits at 11:59pm on Saturday evening, July 4.

Posted by: TRex - very important mail dino at July 05, 2026 12:15 AM (IQ6Gq)

294 They are playing some good music with the fireworks and of course they have to play YMCA. You have to laugh.

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 12:15 AM (IY9No)

295 Navy karaoke?

I hate the artist who refused to perform because OrangeManBad.

Fuck all these assholes.

And God Bless our folks who didn’t pussy out.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 12:15 AM (yEz+x)

296 38 years ago, little did I know that 38 years later, I'd be living in the Ozarks with the guy I asked to take me on a beer run.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:16 AM (lfni7)

297 C'mon all of you geezer celebrating the holiday and your 50 year class reunions, smile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXI6CdTVJ-0

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 12:16 AM (fkjGs)

298 287 Dang, those songs were probably played at the bicentennial.

#2 son had some easy listening 60-70s channel on his truck today. Simon & Garfunkel, America, CSN, etc. I didn't say anything but sheesh, how many generations are going to still be listening to that stuff?

Posted by: fd
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There's some good things by independents on the Tube but distribution is narrow. Corporate owns the radio and it prefers not to pay high BMI & ASCAP vig.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 12:16 AM (jU8k8)

299 "I guess YMCA ain't goin' away anytime soon.
Posted by: Notorious BFD"

Did you hear that one of the Village People died? Now he's In The Gravey.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 12:16 AM (MWfyi)

300 Prince!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 12:16 AM (yEz+x)

301 Dang, those songs were probably played at the bicentennial.

#2 son had some easy listening 60-70s channel on his truck today. Simon & Garfunkel, America, CSN, etc. I didn't say anything but sheesh, how many generations are going to still be listening to that stuff?

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 12:12 AM (MWfyi)

I was recently at a ski resort and noticed the music playing on the outdoor deck of people enjoying apres ski were all hits from the 80s. I remarked that'd be like people during the 1980's playing hits from before rock music was invented.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 05, 2026 12:16 AM (xqQi7)

302 The semi-squishy centennial is over. It was fun while it lasted. I know I won't be around for the 300th and possibly the country won't either, but I feel lucky I celebrated the 200th and the 250th. Tomorrow I'm having a Fourth on the Fifth parTAY with a friend who had to work today. Might as well make a weekend of it.

Posted by: JuJuBee at July 05, 2026 12:17 AM (tM5h4)

303 nurse!!!
Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:17 AM (lfni7)

304 Shout out to our medical insurance company that decided to send us an email about our benefits at 11:59pm on Saturday evening, July 4.

Posted by: TRex - very important mail dino at July 05, 2026 12:15 AM (IQ6Gq)

They aren't bearing good news, im guessing. Sorry about the timing.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 05, 2026 12:18 AM (Snklc)

305 Dang, those songs were probably played at the bicentennial.

#2 son had some easy listening 60-70s channel on his truck today. Simon & Garfunkel, America, CSN, etc. I didn't say anything but sheesh, how many generations are going to still be listening to that stuff?
Posted by: fd
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And then there's that damned Mozart!

Posted by: buddhaha at July 05, 2026 12:18 AM (iaABv)

306 Good evening. Caught up on the comments - well done Horde.

Posted by: scampydog at July 05, 2026 12:19 AM (wJrX8)

307 Q: what has happened to our country?

A: the Dept of Education
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 05, 2026 12:03 AM (THY4u)

B: the death knell of them all - the 1965 Immigration Act aka The Hart-Cellar Act. As Sen Jacob Javitz said when it passed “the floodgates are open”. It just took a few decades to feel the disastrous effects.

Posted by: TxAnn at July 05, 2026 12:19 AM (SjAWL)

308 There will never be an event, probably even his funeral, where Trump will the main event and YMCA isn't played.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 12:19 AM (viF8m)

309
288 To whichever star canceled for tonight's bash. Thank you, I'm enjoying the Military musicians.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 05, 2026 12:13 AM (PV+Zw)

Absolutely! I’d much rather listen to talented amateurs than some aged out hipsters.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 12:19 AM (H8EHh)

310 I read somewhere that there are 850,000 pyrotechnic charges involved in this fireworks display. Damn, that's a lot.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 05, 2026 12:12 AM (ceJ0R)

Trump-hating locals will have to really hate the guy to say that it wasn't a good show (although the weather delay didn't help with the timing).

As much as people in the media and on the left have groused at America 250 being dwarfed by Freedom 250 (Trump has to have his own show!), I think Trump rightly saw that the former, for its 10 years of existing, was doing a poor job and the final product was amounting to a whole lot of meh, and being the showman he is, stepped in.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 12:20 AM (pJK38)

311 S&G are hardly Mozart. Did they ever do a fugue? Hmm?

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2026 12:20 AM (MWfyi)

312 Earth, Wind and Fire.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:20 AM (X+xvk)

313 Serious Cat, yeah, I was feeling the same vibe. The brass band played instrumentals of "Take On Me" (the band is Norwegian) and "Sweet Dreams" (the song is BDSM).
They didn't play any Depeche Mode but maybe they may as well.
youtu.be/RLQGaJ6-aE0

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 12:20 AM (gKWVE)

314 288 To whichever star canceled for tonight's bash. Thank you, I'm enjoying the Military musicians.

Posted by: PaleRider
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Good band & singers, excellent opportunity.
Need a list of boycotters. Time for turn about's.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 12:21 AM (jU8k8)

315 I played with my high school band in Omaha, NE's bicentennial celebration. We had a rebellious attitude. A huge crowd yelled at us for being late and we yelled back at them. I think we were the worst marching band in NE. Once we even misspelled the school name, 'Pred' instead of 'Prep'. And when the sheet music flies off your stand during a march you're not supposed to go running after it. But we had the most fun of any band.

Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at July 05, 2026 12:21 AM (tRYqg)

316 There will never be an event, probably even his funeral, where Trump will the main event and YMCA isn't played.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 12:19 AM (viF8m)
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Complete with holographic Trump dancing to YMCA.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 12:22 AM (kpS4V)

317 12:16 AM (xqQi7)

302 The semi-squishy centennial is over. It was fun while it lasted. I know I won't be around for the 300th and possibly the country won't either, but I feel lucky I celebrated the 200th and the 250th. Tomorrow I'm having a Fourth on the Fifth parTAY with a friend who had to work today. Might as well make a weekend of it.
Posted by: JuJuBee at July 05, 2026 12:17 AM (tM5h4)

Me too! You realize that people like us (and there’s a lot here tonight) have been around for 1/5 of this countries entire existence? In fact for a lot of us it’s more like 1/4. No wonder we remember a lot more than the current crop of young fools.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 12:23 AM (H8EHh)

318 Ha ha ha, heh heh heh. Can you imagine if I posted a thread here? "Men, women and children screaming to escape the pain. It would be glorious."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 05, 2026 12:24 AM (CHHv1)

319 I wandered off for a while, listened to our President. I am feeling all sorts of nostalgia tonight, similar to last night. I am happy that I was born to witness both a bicentennial and a sesquicentennial, my grandkids will likely be as fortunate.

Gosh I sure do love you, Horde, truly fine people.

SMH,I had a vision of your front porch decked out with an American flag today.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 05, 2026 12:24 AM (ibDUx)

320 I read somewhere that there are 850,000 pyrotechnic charges involved in this fireworks display. Damn, that's a lot.
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Looking at the smoke, there's a good shot that it'll poison a large part of DC.

Hey, a boy can dream, can't he?

Posted by: buddhaha at July 05, 2026 12:24 AM (iaABv)

321 Earth, Wind and Fire.

Forever.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 05, 2026 12:25 AM (ceJ0R)

322 Complete with holographic Trump dancing to YMCA.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 12:22 AM (kpS4V)
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My dad was a HUGE Village People fan, and he hates Trump.

I'm not brave enough to ask him about that...

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:25 AM (lfni7)

323 Cheers, Debby!

We love you back!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 12:25 AM (rdVOm)

324 I love this fireworks show, never seen one like this. Great!

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 12:27 AM (IY9No)

325 >>>I don't actually want Musk to be emperor of the solar system but his competitors need not to be incompetent

Posted by: gKWVE
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If Bezos would get of his yacht and spend a little time at the shop they might get that problem solved.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 12:27 AM (jU8k8)

326 SMH,I had a vision of your front porch decked out with an American flag today.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 05, 2026 12:24 AM (ibDUx)
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Have a flagpole a couple of yards away from the porch.

The previous owners were nice enough to leave us the flag.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:27 AM (lfni7)

327 >>Complete with holographic Trump dancing to YMCA.

Likely, but I'm not sure it's even necessary. I hear that song now and I do the white guy overbite and my hands start dancing.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 12:27 AM (viF8m)

328 Ha ha ha, heh heh heh. Can you imagine if I posted a thread here? "Men, women and children screaming to escape the pain. It would be glorious."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 05, 2026 12:24 AM (CHHv1)

Go for it! Just keep about 3 or 4 blockquote tags open, so all the comments get a dark gray background.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 12:28 AM (qx7Zg)

329 I do the white guy overbite and my hands start dancing.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 12:27 AM (viF8m)
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This made me giggle for some reason.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:28 AM (lfni7)

330 Sure is nice to see a bunch of normies being patriotic and enjoying themselves.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 05, 2026 12:28 AM (ceJ0R)

331 Doof!---

Thank you for posting (and cropping!) my poster pic!

Can't believe it's still in such good condition. Has only a single pin hole at each corner, from where I attached it to my bedroom wall all those years ago. Thanks, Mom!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 12:29 AM (rdVOm)

332 Thing is, they need turn around. Bezos engines come off the line at 2 a month. If they are failure proof that's not enough to get the job done.

And so far the rockets are not re-usable.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 12:29 AM (jU8k8)

333

I didn't know much of anything about Trump before he ran for President.

When he came down the escalator to announce he was running for President I thought to myself he is the man who is going to get stuff straight. It was strange because I didn't know anything about him.

I realize people have issues with him which is their right.

I feel so blessed we have him and we'll never see another like him.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:29 AM (/QHx4)

334 I watched 1776 today, as usual. Excellent!
Posted by: Bulg at July 05, 2026 12:10 AM (77rzZ)

Howard DaSilva was an old commie, but by golly he did a great Ben Franklin.

Gonna watch tomorrow, had no time today.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 12:30 AM (1Ff7Z)

335 SMH!

I’m loving the amateur karaoke.

Fuck all the assholes who are too afraid to perform because of politics.

It’s America 250

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 12:30 AM (4ThdF)

336 Greatest fireworks display I've ever seen. Lord, how I wish I was there.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:30 AM (X+xvk)

337 Yeah, for a "failure", the day looked like a complete success.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2026 12:31 AM (kpS4V)

338 This fireworks show is now twice as long as the average DC 4th of July show, and still going (not including all the illegal stuff being shot into the sky all over town).

CNN just had to show a brief clip of Trump and Melania having a discussion, I'm sure to later wonder if they were arguing.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 12:31 AM (pJK38)

339 Forever hallow’d is the earth, where sleep the patriot and the brave,
Whose very ashes have a voice—a warning cry to guard and save.

—Lines on the Deaths of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, A Lady of Richmond, E.L.S., July 14 1826.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2026 12:32 AM (kYmoU)

340 Mexico’s government has been in existence longer than either of theirs.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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It is to laugh. Mexico is possibly one of the longest.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 12:32 AM (jU8k8)

341 In fact for a lot of us it’s more like 1/4. No wonder we remember a lot more than the current crop of young fools.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2026 12:23 AM (H8EHh)

Damn, since you put it way I’m in between 1/3 and 1/4. I was already feeling old going through the mental bicentennial archives, but that ratio adds another layer of rust. :-)

Posted by: TxAnn at July 05, 2026 12:32 AM (SjAWL)

342 Gotta wonder if they're gonna do Take Me Home, Country Roads?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 05, 2026 12:33 AM (ceJ0R)

343 Worth a repost, because 1976 was awesome, too:

https://youtu.be/gh6BfGdffQw

Doobs!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 12:33 AM (rdVOm)

344 I hugged my Dad's military flag today, he loved this country.

JQ, I just knew that your poster was held in reserve until tonight, that is wonderful, it would be proudly hanging in my hallway.

My hubs and I used to laugh so hard when my oldest son would see the flag and say fag, fag and all of my gay co-workers would look at each other. I should perhaps specify that he was only two at te time.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 05, 2026 12:33 AM (ibDUx)

345 250!

damn.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 12:34 AM (fkjGs)

346 Can the "patriot front" just fuck off already? they did zero patriotisms today

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2026 12:34 AM (gKWVE)

347 Best President of my lifetime. Hindered by a corrupt and cowardly political party of RINO's, vilified by hate-filled Communists, obstructed by a compromised Supreme Court Justice and the ongoing criminal enterprise that is our law enforcement/intelligence community, and he STILL gets things done.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:34 AM (X+xvk)

348 "1776" added to my list, thanks!
youtube.com/watch?v=X7x9cv1FsyA

Posted by: gp at July 05, 2026 12:35 AM (Jr5Lq)

349 Watching this, it's easy to see how Trump thought to himself, "New York City and other places put on bigger shows than the nation's capital year after year. Not this year!"

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 12:36 AM (pJK38)

350 That fireworks show is unbelievable. Non-stop.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2026 12:36 AM (n5tGW)

351 Oh wow, they're playing a song recorded in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 05, 2026 12:37 AM (xqQi7)

352 Best President of my lifetime. Hindered by a corrupt and cowardly political party of RINO's, vilified by hate-filled Communists, obstructed by a compromised Supreme Court Justice and the ongoing criminal enterprise that is our law enforcement/intelligence community, and he STILL gets things done.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05,

Amen.
And your beer is not bad, sir.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 05, 2026 12:37 AM (Snklc)

353 "1776" added to my list, thanks!
youtube.com/watch?v=X7x9cv1FsyA
Posted by: gp at July 05, 2026 12:35 AM (Jr5Lq)

Watch it on a browser with an ad blocker. It's long enough already without a commercial cutting in every five minutes.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2026 12:37 AM (1Ff7Z)

354 Me too! You realize that people like us (and there’s a lot here tonight) have been around for 1/5 of this countries entire existence? In fact for a lot of us it’s more like 1/4. No wonder we remember a lot more than the current crop of young fools.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Whippersnappers.
Born before Pearl Harbor. Been alive for slightly less than 1/3 of our country's existence.
Then look at those WWII vets on the stage this evening. More than 45% of the country's existence.
I don't feel that old, and neither does this country. We've come a long way, baby, and there's a long, long way to go.
Greatness behind, and greatness ahead.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 05, 2026 12:38 AM (iaABv)

355 Oooo... it's dark outside now! Gonna see what's out there. bbiab

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 12:38 AM (rdVOm)

356 WOW!!!

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:39 AM (X+xvk)

357 Well, that was dope.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 05, 2026 12:39 AM (ceJ0R)

358 40 minutes. Even the CNN people are impressed.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 12:39 AM (pJK38)

359 "Watch it on a browser with an ad blocker."

Got that covered! uBlock Origin FTW.

Posted by: gp at July 05, 2026 12:39 AM (Jr5Lq)

360 There were so many stalwart, brave men involved with the Revolution that it is staggering. Most probably lie in unmarked graves.

As an aside, not the case for Molly Pitcher:

https://shorturl.at/JfbPG

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 12:40 AM (XeU6L)

361 WOW!!!!!! That was great!

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 12:40 AM (IY9No)

362 I didn't realize they were trying to break a world record.

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 12:41 AM (pJK38)

363 315 I played with my high school band in Omaha, NE's bicentennial celebration. We had a rebellious attitude. A huge crowd yelled at us for being late and we yelled back at them. I think we were the worst marching band in NE. Once we even misspelled the school name, 'Pred' instead of 'Prep'. And when the sheet music flies off your stand during a march you're not supposed to go running after it. But we had the most fun of any band.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at July 05, 2026 12:21 AM (tRYqg)

***********
Had 2 sons in Junior High and HS marching band, one was drum major in HS (alto sax casanova). Junior high was a painful time listening to them.

I can't tell you how much I love your band and how fun it sounds!

My husband just brought in his laptop of young bald eagles (Sandy and Luna) at Big Bear California watching fireworks. I am sure Sandy wonders wth is going on as her sibling accidently knocked her out of the nest last week and she fledged. First landing upside down twice on limbs in confusion.

We think this is very patriotic of them to be part of the celebration.

Now we are going to bed. Love you crazy people.

Thanks for the ONT, D's.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 05, 2026 12:43 AM (hzuYO)

364 Niters ChristyB : )

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:43 AM (lfni7)

365 Amen.
And your beer is not bad, sir.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary

****************

Why, thank you! I like Sam Adams. They have some very tasty offerings. Tonight I'm sampling some Sierra Nevada IPA's. Magnificent.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:44 AM (X+xvk)

366 Most probably lie in unmarked graves.

As an aside, not the case for Molly Pitcher:

https://shorturl.at/JfbPG
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Whoa. Was not expecting that.

Posted by: scampydog at July 05, 2026 12:44 AM (wJrX8)

367

I am crying.

We live in the greatest country in the world.

We are so blessed.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:45 AM (/QHx4)

368 I watched it on TV. It decided to get busy tonight and I've been actually working. We're shorthanded tonight too. It's just me basically. New guy can't do much. Everybody else is on vacation.

(sad violin music)

Anyway, looked damn impressive.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 05, 2026 12:45 AM (ntk8v)

369 Do y'all remember in 2020 when the covid lunatic governments forbade any fireworks on the 4th of July? So the cities and County's governments did not do the official celebrations but ... there was the most glorious and stunning eruption of rebellious Americans setting off fireworks in Every neighborhood from coast to coast, even Los Angeles.

I remember seeing the stunned, po-faced anchor persons who could not wrap their tiny little Minds around the idea that Americans were rebelling against this b******* edict.

It was glorious.

Posted by: Beverly at July 05, 2026 12:46 AM (reMys)

370 Scary, so good to see you here, I have been missing you.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 05, 2026 12:46 AM (ibDUx)

371 I am crying.

We live in the greatest country in the world.

We are so blessed.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:45 AM (/QHx4)
_

It was an honor to defend this nation.

And it wasn't until I went to Iraq that I realized how truly blessed we are.

These kids just don't know.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:47 AM (lfni7)

372 Do y'all remember in 2020 when the covid lunatic governments forbade any fireworks on the 4th of July? So the cities and County's governments did not do the official celebrations but ... there was the most glorious and stunning eruption of rebellious Americans setting off fireworks in Every neighborhood from coast to coast, even Los Angeles.

I remember seeing the stunned, po-faced anchor persons who could not wrap their tiny little Minds around the idea that Americans were rebelling against this b******* edict.

It was glorious.
Posted by: Beverly
___

In southern Illinois, it was amazing.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:48 AM (lfni7)

373 369 Do y'all remember in 2020 when the covid lunatic governments forbade any fireworks on the 4th of July? So the cities and County's governments did not do the official celebrations but ... there was the most glorious and stunning eruption of rebellious Americans setting off fireworks in Every neighborhood from coast to coast, even Los Angeles.

I remember seeing the stunned, po-faced anchor persons who could not wrap their tiny little Minds around the idea that Americans were rebelling against this b******* edict.

It was glorious.

Posted by: Beverly

***********************

In the face of abject tyranny, they uniformly told them where to go. God, but I love this country.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:48 AM (X+xvk)

374

SMH,

You are right, they have no clue.

We have to pray they don't muck up things.

Proud to be an American where we are blessed to be free.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:49 AM (/QHx4)

375 369 Do y'all remember in 2020 when the covid lunatic governments forbade any fireworks on the 4th of July? So the cities and County's governments did not do the official celebrations but ... there was the most glorious and stunning eruption of rebellious Americans setting off fireworks in Every neighborhood from coast to coast, even Los Angeles.

I remember seeing the stunned, po-faced anchor persons who could not wrap their tiny little Minds around the idea that Americans were rebelling against this b******* edict.

It was glorious.
Posted by: Beverly at July 05, 2026 12:46 AM (reMys)

************
LOL! Thanks, I had forgotten about that and it was grand!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 05, 2026 12:49 AM (hzuYO)

376 Then again...it's southern Illinois, where the sheriffs flip Chicago and Springfield the bird on a regular basis.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:49 AM (lfni7)

377 They stripped him of his 1st amendment rights. They tried to kick him off ballots in 25 states. They rewrote laws to persecute and prosecute him. They sought to bankrupt him, and to imprison him for life. They have now made at least three attempts on his life.
------------------

And we are now told to believe a story that "they" are concerned that some extremists might be coming to take over their party.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 12:51 AM (vE0+H)

378 And we are now told to believe a story that "they" are concerned that some extremists might be coming to take over their party.
Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 12:51 AM (vE0+H)
___

God uses the unlikeliest of people for His purpose.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:52 AM (lfni7)

379 Hi, SMH

Southern Illinois??? Really?

And you just moved to the Ozarks???

I think you're following me around!

Hope we get to meet one day.

Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 12:52 AM (RCjYY)

380 mnw!

Been a month now here in Crawford Co.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:53 AM (lfni7)

381

We lived in a suburb of Chicago for several years.

O what a happy day when we moved from there to South Carolina.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:54 AM (/QHx4)

382 And we are now told to believe a story that "they" are concerned that some extremists might be coming to take over their party.

Posted by: ...

**************

I tell you, if Trump had lived in 1776, his signature would have been on the Declaration. He has literally risked EVERYTHING dear to him for the sake of this nation. How that man can walk upright with a pair of balls that big is beyond me. May God bless and keep him, and cover him in His protective hand.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:54 AM (X+xvk)

383 God uses the unlikeliest of people for His purpose.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:52 AM (lfni7)

That is for sure. What has always struck me is that the early backers of the famously degenerate potty-mouthed Trump was "evangelicals". It's like they knew what/who was required for the battle before many even knew what the battle was.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 12:55 AM (vE0+H)

384 I was born in Chicago, just never lived there beyond the first few weeks of life.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:55 AM (lfni7)

385

Amen Sam Adams!!!!

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 12:55 AM (/QHx4)

386 23 TxAnn ought to come to the next TX MoMee.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 04, 2026 10:15 PM (R+iUD)

I’m chewing on it. It’s just about 3 hours north on 45. From what I understand, it’s a BYOA, bring your own arsenal?

Posted by: TxAnn at July 05, 2026 12:56 AM (SjAWL)

387 That is for sure. What has always struck me is that the early backers of the famously degenerate potty-mouthed Trump was "evangelicals". It's like they knew what/who was required for the battle before many even knew what the battle was.
Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 12:55 AM (vE0+H)
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Scripture kinda lays out the battle plan.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:57 AM (lfni7)

388 SMH

Hope you like Crawford County and prosper there. Truly.

Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 12:57 AM (RCjYY)

389 I’m chewing on it. It’s just about 3 hours north on 45. From what I understand, it’s a BYOA, bring your own arsenal?
Posted by: TxAnn at July 05, 2026 12:56 AM (SjAWL)
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Arsenal, alcohol, etc.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:58 AM (lfni7)

390 Good night, all!

Posted by: Vendette at July 05, 2026 12:58 AM (pJK38)

391 mnw, it's gorgeous here... and so many creeks!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:59 AM (lfni7)

392 Top ten!!!
I shall sleep well tonight.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2026 12:59 AM (2WIwB)

393 I tell you, if Trump had lived in 1776, his signature would have been on the Declaration. He has literally risked EVERYTHING dear to him for the sake of this nation. How that man can walk upright with a pair of balls that big is beyond me. May God bless and keep him, and cover him in His protective hand.
Posted by: Sam Adams
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In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:00 AM (rdVOm)

394 Niters, Vendette!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 01:00 AM (lfni7)

395
Scripture kinda lays out the battle plan.
Posted by: SMH
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Joel 3-9

Proclaim this among the nations:
Prepare for war!
Rouse the warriors!
Let all the fighting men draw near and attack. Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears.
Let the weakling say,
“I am strong!”

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:00 AM (XeU6L)

396 What has always struck me is that the early backers of the famously degenerate potty-mouthed Trump was "evangelicals". It's like they knew what/who was required for the battle before many even knew what the battle was.

Posted by: ...
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He called the heads of all faiths in at the same time. He spoke truth as a man not as a politician. The last thing he said, I won't let you down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 01:00 AM (jU8k8)

397 I tell you, if Trump had lived in 1776, his signature would have been on the Declaration. He has literally risked EVERYTHING dear to him for the sake of this nation. How that man can walk upright with a pair of balls that big is beyond me. May God bless and keep him, and cover him in His protective hand.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 12:54 AM (X+xvk)

God spared him for a reason.

Listening to him that day telling that black conference that Kamala's not even black was a thing of beauty. I mean it's only something she said her entire career but he's not allowed. Whites aren't allowed. A black Republican would not be allowed.

The guy has interplanetary balls. It's like "you can't do that"... right up until someone does it.

The discussion here that day was decidedly mixed. The people that want him to be quiet or pull punches do not possess his instinct for battle or understanding for what is required. Or more to the point, the shape of the phony gameboard they have us all prostrate on. He has balls. I like... balls.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 01:00 AM (vE0+H)

398 Scripture kinda lays out the battle plan.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 12:57 AM (lfni7)

Amen

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 01:01 AM (vE0+H)

399 This relates to the Louisiana Purchase and the U.S. Land Acquisitions map above:

The American diplomats who negotiated the LP complained, "The boundaries of the French territory in the Purchase lands are not clearly known. So, we don't know exactly what it is we're buying."

Napoleon: "I'm sure you'll make the most of it."

Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 01:03 AM (RCjYY)

400 387 That is for sure. What has always struck me is that the early backers of the famously degenerate potty-mouthed Trump was "evangelicals". It's like they knew what/who was required for the battle before many even knew what the battle was.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 12:55 AM (vE0+H)

*****************

We needed a LEADER. A two-dimensional cardboard cutout spouting focus group-approved talking points wasn't going to get it. Trump did absolutely everything I had ever wanted to see a Republican candidate do. He stood up to his own idiot party. He stood up to the corrupt Clinton Crime Family, and he gave absolute hell to our useless media. He's left them howling, confused, licking their wounds and whining on the back porch. God bless him.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 01:04 AM (X+xvk)

401 The discussion here that day was decidedly mixed. The people that want him to be quiet or pull punches do not possess his instinct for battle or understanding for what is required. Or more to the point, the shape of the phony gameboard they have us all prostrate on. He has balls. I like... balls.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 01:00 AM (vE0+H)

He speaks in a language I understand.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:04 AM (S41Gd)

402

President Trump loves us and our country.

I've never seen a person like him who has respect for all classes of people. He knows we are all important to make our country work.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:04 AM (/QHx4)

403 Whatever is being lit off tonight, I can only hear but not SEE, because trees... It's been loud and fairly constant until just a few minutes ago.

Oh well. I know what it all means! And it's great!

Happy birthday, America!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:05 AM (rdVOm)

404 Well that was one hell of a firework display in DC. The ending was insane. They probably saw that one from space.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:07 AM (S41Gd)

405 That was

Oh

Ver

Whelming.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 01:07 AM (pv+nv)

406 Well I'm glad I stayed up to watch the President and the fireworks. It was great. Loved the music. Proud to be an American? You betcha!

Posted by: Case at July 05, 2026 01:07 AM (IY9No)

407 Sweet dreams Horde, I was up at 5:30 yesterday, now I must sleep.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 05, 2026 01:07 AM (ibDUx)

408 Holy carp it is absolute chaos here.

Seems Like Seattle has a little pent up energy.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 05, 2026 01:07 AM (lytXf)

409 'Night, Debby!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:08 AM (rdVOm)

410

Sleep well Debby.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:08 AM (/QHx4)

411 >>I've never seen a person like him who has respect for all classes of people. He knows we are all important to make our country work.

I have. I was fortunate to grow up with a mom and dad exactly like that.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:09 AM (viF8m)

412 Whatever is being lit off tonight, I can only hear but not SEE, because trees... It's been loud and fairly constant until just a few minutes ago.

Oh well. I know what it all means! And it's great!

Happy birthday, America!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:05 AM (rdVOm)

It was so crazy here they were shooting shit off from the ancient cemetery up the street.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:09 AM (S41Gd)

413

nurse,

good chaos or bad chaos?

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:09 AM (/QHx4)

414 Holy smokes. That was some kind of crazy fireworks display. I bet the Red Chinese were green with envy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2026 01:09 AM (BI5O2)

415

JackStraw,

I should have been clearer. I meant a politician.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:10 AM (/QHx4)

416 It was so crazy here they were shooting shit off from the ancient cemetery up the street.
Posted by: Berserker

That's probably well-watered there & safer than many other possible launch sites, LOL

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:10 AM (rdVOm)

417
I watched on t.v. and I really liked the closeups of people in the crowd. Seemed like all of America was there, enjoying the show.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 01:11 AM (mmrXZ)

418 I counted six barges from where I was.
Before the halfway point the smoke on the river was so thick I could see none of them, even the one closest to me.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 01:11 AM (pv+nv)

419 It was so crazy here they were shooting shit off from the ancient cemetery up the street.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:09 AM (S41Gd)

Are you sure the fireworks weren't launched by the patriots interred there? Celebrating 250 years, and this President and today's patriots?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 05, 2026 01:14 AM (qx7Zg)

420 Think about how hot it was on the Potomac tonight. Working on one of those firing barges must have sucked ass.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2026 01:14 AM (BI5O2)

421 Why I think Trump won the first time:

People in the Midwest and South who had never heard a New Yawker multimillionaire with a Queens accent before, and saw him sweating profusely in his fancy dark suit?

They somehow sensed a genuineness in Trump they had never encountered before.

I include myself among the Trump skeptics. I knew he'd contributed to Hillary & other Democrats in the past, so I suspected him of being... a liberal in disguise.

I'm so happy to have been INCREDIBLY wrong!



Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 01:15 AM (RCjYY)

422 Time to put in some earplugs and get some shut-eye. See you on the book thread. G'night.

Posted by: PabloD at July 05, 2026 01:16 AM (byoW7)

423 401

Me too.

Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 01:17 AM (RCjYY)

424 >>I should have been clearer. I meant a politician.

For a lot of years I've wanted a businessman with some common sense to run this country and not a politician. I admit when Trump first tossed his hat in the ring I didn't think he was serious. I was wrong.

I watched Trump operate in NYC as a kid growing up and I always knew he was smart and capable but he has far exceeded my hopes. He's truly one of a kind. We will never see another like him.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:17 AM (viF8m)

425 I'm sorry, folks -- I just don't see the fascination with retail fireworks. Here it is after midnight, and somebody in the neighborhood is still setting them off. What is so great about pop-pop-pop?

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2026 01:18 AM (kdEHI)

426 I keep a $2 bill in my wallet.
Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2026 10:11

I've been getting packs of $2 bills, saving any valuable ones, then spending the rest in my few cash transactions.

It's actually anti-inflationary as most people keep them and they are pulled out of circulation. LOL

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at July 05, 2026 01:18 AM (55Qr6)

427 420 Think about how hot it was on the Potomac tonight. Working on one of those firing barges must have sucked ass.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2026 01:14 AM
+++
The temp dropped quite a bit and it feels comfortable.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 01:18 AM (pv+nv)

428 Happy Independence Day!

Nytol.

Posted by: mnw at July 05, 2026 01:19 AM (RCjYY)

429 My perspective is simple. Trump is not a politician. Most importantly, he places the well-being of the country before all else. Period.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:19 AM (XeU6L)

430 I include myself among the Trump skeptics. I knew he'd contributed to Hillary & other Democrats in the past, so I suspected him of being... a liberal in disguise.
I'm so happy to have been INCREDIBLY wrong!
Posted by: mnw
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Me too! I voted for Cruz in the primary... Because I figured The Donald was just another lib dem in disguise. A Diablo, waiting to fk us over. Dad (RIP), a hard-core conservative, talked me off the ledge after Trump won the primary.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:19 AM (rdVOm)

431 "Why I think Trump won"

vs Hillary, Biden, and Kamala, he was the obvious better choice.

Posted by: gp at July 05, 2026 01:19 AM (Jr5Lq)

432 I thought Trump might be a liberal until he spoke the first few times and was saying everything we thought - not just making the right noises but actually upsetting people. The right people.

When he went after the Bushes I knew he was absolutely the real deal. Because no GOPe I know would do that.

I know that pissed people here off that night, bigly, sounding like a leftard blaming Bush for 9/11 but that wasn't what he was doing. He wasn't implicating us. He was implicating the people that had kept betraying us. And he was taking down the rival that was supposed to REALLY get Hillary elected.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 01:19 AM (vE0+H)

433

People are so happy they don't live in a shithole country.

They are celebrating FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:20 AM (/QHx4)

434 The temp dropped quite a bit and it feels comfortable.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 01:18 AM (pv+nv

Yeah, I guess you guys got some rain, right? It hit us hard last night, and finally took the edge of the stifling heat in Southern Appalachia.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2026 01:20 AM (BI5O2)

435 I considered myself the world's staunchest Never-Trumper. I despised him. I didn't trust him. I thought he was an attention whore who would govern as a typical New York liberal.

And I was entirely wrong.

Donald Trump has been consistent in what he was saying for a long, long time. He hates seeing stupidity and corruption in government. He hates inefficiency. He hates seeing ordinary people getting screwed. This man genuinely loves this nation and Her people. God bless and keep him.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 01:20 AM (X+xvk)

436 Happy Independence Day! No live fireworks viewing for us since we provided a new home for a couple of dogs. Casper is stoic but Sammy hates loud noises, he gets the trembles. We did see the show at Mt. Rushmore last night and Washington DC tonight on the Roku. I missed the beginning so I definitely have to revisit that tomorrow.

Posted by: ChE99 at July 05, 2026 01:22 AM (Jteiy)

437 People are so happy they don't live in a shithole country.

They are celebrating FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:20 AM (/QHx4)
__

We won the lottery.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 01:22 AM (lfni7)

438 429 My perspective is simple. Trump is not a politician. Most importantly, he places the well-being of the country before all else. Period.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:19 AM (XeU6L)

Well, he IS a politician, though he is on the way to being regarded as a statesman, which is something else altogether.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 01:23 AM (An2iq)

439 I keep a $2 bill in my wallet.
Posted by: davidt
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I have probably 50 lbs. of copper pennies.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2026 01:23 AM (XeU6L)

440 What is so great about pop-pop-pop?
Posted by: Weak Geek

Maybe that's all they could afford, and wanted to be part of the big celebration *somehow*!

Or, maybe they're just regular peeps like me, what needed a day to dispose of old fireworks-- and couldn't find them on New Year's Day. LOL!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:23 AM (rdVOm)

441
President Trump deserves his own mountain.

Mt. Rushmore is great but he should not have to share space with them.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:24 AM (/QHx4)

442 Yeah, I guess you guys got some rain, right? It hit us hard last night, and finally took the edge of the stifling heat in Southern Appalachia.
+++
It did rain a bit. Temps dropped soon afterward.
Gave me a chance to try out my spiffy new Ozark Trail poncho.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2026 01:24 AM (pv+nv)

443 >>We won the lottery.

Thanks largely due to people like you.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:25 AM (viF8m)

444 Growing up in CO, I could never have fireworks.

I didn't even think of buying any for three years after moving somewhere they're permitted, because the aversion to them was so ingrained.

Last year, I was hearing them going off all around, and it finally hit me: "oh yeah... this is legal!"

So I bought a bunch of mortars and stuff this year, and lit them off with my brother, and thought "yeah, that was pretty badass," and then saw Donald Trump's thing on TV.

*sad trombone*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2026 01:27 AM (BI5O2)

445
What is so great about pop-pop-pop?
Posted by: Weak Geek

===============

You're sposta watch them, not just listen to them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 01:27 AM (mmrXZ)

446 Good night, all, to you, the best folks on the planet.

Things I could have been but weren't: too long to list.
Things I was but shouldn't a been: also too long to list.

Things I am: caretaker of a black cat. Slave.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 05, 2026 01:27 AM (CHHv1)

447 429 My perspective is simple. Trump is not a politician. Most importantly, he places the well-being of the country before all else. Period.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc

****************

Bingo.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 01:29 AM (X+xvk)

448 BeckoningChasm,

You are a wonderful steward of one of God's creatures.

You're also made in God's image, never forget that.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 05, 2026 01:29 AM (lfni7)

449

Hi to Robert!

He does love you, he just has a different way of letting you know.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:29 AM (/QHx4)

450 You're sposta watch them, not just listen to them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Hahaha, I sure tried! Walked all around the property, trying to see between trees... no joy. Oh, well. The sound is good enough for me! I know that the people lighting them off, were CELEBRATING!

I'm celebrating too, just *more quietly* than most.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:30 AM (rdVOm)

451 {{{BeckoningChasm}}}

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:31 AM (rdVOm)

452

What a day.

250 years. We have to keep fighting to keep our country great.



Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:34 AM (/QHx4)

453 It was so crazy here they were shooting shit off from the ancient cemetery up the street.
Posted by: Berserker

That's probably well-watered there & safer than many other possible launch sites, LOL

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:10 AM (rdVOm)


Along with a captive audience that didn't complain.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:34 AM (S41Gd)

454 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 01:27 AM (mmrXZ)

Happy Fourth, Blondie. You always make me laugh and I like how you think.

Posted by: ... at July 05, 2026 01:35 AM (vE0+H)

455 President Trump deserves his own mountain.

Mt. Rushmore is great but he should not have to share space with them.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:24 AM (/QHx4)

He needs his own planet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:35 AM (S41Gd)

456

right on Berserker!!

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:36 AM (/QHx4)

457 right on Berserker!!

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:36 AM (/QHx4)

He'll reshape the face on mars in his own image. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:37 AM (S41Gd)

458 I watched Trump operate in NYC as a kid growing up and I always knew he was smart and capable but he has far exceeded my hopes. He's truly one of a kind. We will never see another like him.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:17

The funniest prez ever. And agree, he's far exceeded my hopes.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at July 05, 2026 01:37 AM (55Qr6)

459 Took a brief stroll around the courtyard we have here. It was nice, finally. The rain cooled it down a bit. It's been over 100 all week in Babylon DC, so everything is steaming. Add that with the fireworks smoke, it had a cool look about it. Another storm is moving. Saw lightning bolts crisscrossing the sky followed by loud thunder. Needed some mood music.

youtu.be/22Ndi2HUheg

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 05, 2026 01:39 AM (ntk8v)

460

Some people think he is crude.

So what, he speaks the truth, no holds barred.

So many people have been cowed to be PC. Fuck that shit.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:39 AM (/QHx4)

461 https://tinyurl.com/dzzm2d39

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 01:43 AM (X+xvk)

462 >>So many people have been cowed to be PC. Fuck that shit.

Yeah-- listen to these same people in their private convos, and hear even *worse* than what they (faux) complain about! Hypocrites...

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:45 AM (rdVOm)

463 Just got home from the Boise fireworks, after several years of not bothering. It was really neat, and I felt a bit of patriotism in my black heart. the crowd was huge, but very pleasant. The mood certainly felt right for America's 250th. Gives me hope.

America! Gosh Yes!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 05, 2026 01:46 AM (0aYVJ)

464

It is so dry here. So many people here have been worried about fires from the fireworks. Hubby and I have been concerned.

We haven't heard any sirens so things must be good.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:48 AM (/QHx4)

465 369 Do y'all remember in 2020 when the covid lunatic governments forbade any fireworks on the 4th of July? So the cities and County's governments did not do the official celebrations but ... there was the most glorious and stunning eruption of rebellious Americans setting off fireworks in Every neighborhood from coast to coast, even Los Angeles.

Posted by: Beverly at July 05, 2026 12:46 AM (reMys)

I'm in Orange County, just south of and within commuting distance to Los Angeles.

Tonight was an incredible display of fireworks all around us. It went continuously from dusk until presently there are still isolated booms in the distance.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 05, 2026 01:49 AM (QGaXH)

466 Along with a captive audience that didn't complain.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2026 01:34
You do have a point there.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at July 05, 2026 01:50 AM (55Qr6)

467 Still a ton of fireworks all around us. Probably gonna keep going for some time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 05, 2026 01:50 AM (0aYVJ)

468 Just got home from the fireworks show. Not bad for a small town. Watching from a hill was a new experience.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 05, 2026 01:51 AM (+9wcF)

469

Pug,

It hasn't slowed here. Last year the drought was so bad that fireworks were banned. I think people are doubling up this year.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:51 AM (/QHx4)

470 >>The funniest prez ever. And agree, he's far exceeded my hopes.

There are moments in all of our lives we don't fully appreciate because we are too busy living in the moment. This is one of those moments.

Trump has changed the trajectory of the world. It's an incredible time to be alive.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2026 01:52 AM (viF8m)

471

JackStraw,

Yes he has.

What an amazing man he is.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:56 AM (/QHx4)

472 Noise has dwindled down to nothing here, at the far edge of town... "city limits" is a stone's throw away & nothing happening out *beyond* anymore.

It was a good Independence Day celebration, despite the efforts of media, libtards and commies (birm)

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 01:56 AM (rdVOm)

473 It hasn't slowed here. Last year the drought was so bad that fireworks were banned. I think people are doubling up this year.
Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:51 AM (/QHx4)

The drought here is minimal, I would say, especially in my area. Last weekend we saw heavy rain and mid 50s temperatures. So that certainly helped. And Idaho has far less restrictive fireworks rules. Way looser than Colorado, but I daresay a lot of that was Karens calling the cops if they hear any kind of explosions.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 05, 2026 01:56 AM (0aYVJ)

474 Patriotic hat tip to Merriam Webster X Account:

https://tinyurl.com/8hbs33pj

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 05, 2026 02:03 AM (X+xvk)

475 Good Night Everyone

Enjoyed sharing the fourth with all of youse.

I'm gonna leave before I can't leave.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 05, 2026 02:03 AM (QGaXH)

476 Looks like they upped their game at Glacier View this year. Light plane flyover, followed by pyrotechnics and launching cars over the cliff. Dude always starts the festivities with a prayer, and the Pledge of Allegiance. There may also be alcohol involved. May be.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 05, 2026 02:04 AM (bl07w)

477 'Night, ARiK! Sleep well.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 02:04 AM (rdVOm)

478 LOL, tcn! Sounds like a blast! Have seen vids of it.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 02:07 AM (rdVOm)

479 Off to Kasilof to fish tomorrow, and meet friends, and perhaps misbehave a bit, as we are prone to do. We fish the incoming tide, then wait until it recedes so we can drive off the beach. Lots of hard work followed by loafing and recreating. And food. Lots of food. Like, fresh salmon over charcoal food.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 05, 2026 02:16 AM (bl07w)

480 Way less fireworks here... sad...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 05, 2026 02:19 AM (mP0Kj)

481 Got the windows open & fans blowing cool air into the house.

Smells like... fireworks! Hahaha

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 02:24 AM (rdVOm)

482 Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok
2h

This might be the greatest Freudian slip of all time


https://tinyurl.com/mdstebky

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:25 AM (QNSrI)

483 Happily the pyrotechnics have subsided for the evening and the neighborhood didn't burn down. The week-long rainfall was certainly a blessing. Now I think were headed into some of Elvis' Burning Love, because we have had no raging wild-fires yet and life threatening smoke. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 02:29 AM (fkjGs)

484 https://tinyurl.com/mdstebky
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:25 AM

Homo and his gold-digging beard. Ugh.

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 02:31 AM (rdVOm)

485 DataRepublican sums up Bill Clinton better than much anything I've read until now:

https://tinyurl.com/4kdjyte3

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:35 AM (QNSrI)

486 To sleep now... perchance, to dream.

Good night, horde. Thanks for being here & celebrating our 250th together!

Posted by: JQ at July 05, 2026 02:40 AM (rdVOm)

487
Homo and his gold-digging beard. Ugh.
Posted by: JQ

==================

what in the heck is with Huma Abedin? Is she afraid of dying alone? Of entering a restaurant alone?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 02:41 AM (mmrXZ)

488 484 https://tinyurl.com/mdstebky
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:25 AM

Homo and his gold-digging beard. Ugh.

Posted by: JQ
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Couldn't even bring himself to lie. Good show Alex.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 02:44 AM (jU8k8)

489 Happy Independence Day!

I did not know about Raquel Welch's 1970 Raquel! TV special at the time, since I did not exist yet.

Raquel Welch - Space Dance (The Cecil Holmes Soulful Sounds - Also Sprach Zarathustra)
https://youtu.be/ShpHqjM-zAQ

So, when I first saw this fanvid, which is perfectly synced, I thought it was a real music video.

Pets - Porno For Pyros (Raquel Welch - Space Dance)
https://youtu.be/FSOHO3GwEPg

As a result, when I found out where the sexy dancer came from for that one, I assumed that Kate Moss dancing to garage rock was a fanvid too.

The White Stripes - I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself
https://youtu.be/wzDG0jA3XVY

Nope. That's official. Enjoy!

Posted by: SciVo at July 05, 2026 02:45 AM (Sy6m/)

490 Over 273 Americans have been shot since the Iran war began.
... in Chicago.
_PDJT

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 02:47 AM (jU8k8)

491 anae Takaichi
@takaichi_sanae
Jul 4
Heartfelt congratulations to President @realDonaldTrump and the American people on Independence Day, the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States.

To celebrate this memorable year, 250 cherry trees were donated from Japan.
Additionally, Japanese fireworks will be launched at Independence Day events across the United States to add flowers to the celebrations.

We will continue to strengthen the ties between Japan and the United States.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 02:49 AM (jU8k8)

492 @GiorgiaMeloni

I want to thank the law enforcement agencies who conducted a large-scale operation throughout the Colosseum area this morning. Hundreds of people have been identified and arrested ....

The State is there and continues to guard the territory with determination, also thanks to the strengthened tools introduced with the Security Decree.
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Out of towners unwelcome in Southern Europe?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 02:55 AM (jU8k8)

493 Finally! Something better than Mountain Dew:

https://tinyurl.com/4zptra5v

OK. Back to work for me.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:57 AM (y1wyK)

494 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 02:55 AM (jU8k
-

Meloni > Baloney

What a disappointment. One of many.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 02:59 AM (y1wyK)

495 I think she holds up pretty well against the EU.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 03:02 AM (jU8k8)

496 CEO of German defence firm Rheinmetall says Merkel told him: “We don’t need you, if something goes wrong we’ll call the Americans.”
Matches her policy of dependence on Russia for energy, US for defence, China for revenue.
Then she called her memoir Freedom

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 03:09 AM (jU8k8)

497 402

President Trump loves us and our country.

I've never seen a person like him who has respect for all classes of people. He knows we are all important to make our country work.

Posted by: four seasons at July 05, 2026 01:04 AM (/QHx4)

The key difference is that Trump has real world experience. He’s a politician now, but he had decades of working in the real world and that gave him a different POV than people who took government classes, and maybe became lawyers or got master’s degrees in public administration so that they could enter political office, fully isolated from the real world.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 03:17 AM (An2iq)

498 People were speculating on, how long before the divorce.

@BuzzPatterson
7h
Taylor Swift forces Travis to sign a 40-page prenuptial agreement that includes an infidelity clause, costing Travis $20M per violation

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 03:19 AM (jU8k8)

499 177 Cubs fans singing Country Roads on 4th Of July during a fog delay at Wrigley. For those who don’t know that’s become the unofficial song of the US soccer team.

Well, it sure as all hell couldn’t be “War Ensemble”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 03:23 AM (An2iq)

500 177 Cubs fans singing Country Roads on 4th Of July during a fog delay at Wrigley. For those who don’t know that’s become the unofficial song of the US soccer team.

YNWA

Posted by: Liverpool FC at July 05, 2026 03:24 AM (An2iq)

501 Button-fly

Posted by: Levi jeans at July 05, 2026 03:25 AM (An2iq)

502 Trump Pardons 6 Prosecuted For 'Fixing Their Car' Under Biden-Era Emissions Rules
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Now pardon the rest of us so we may have that Camray, Toyota HiLux diesels, or Colorado's with Duramax four banger. And while you're at it get rid of that Blue Dep.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 03:25 AM (jU8k8)

503 Driving fast makes me feel good
Speed of light trapped under my hood
Breakin laws cuz there’s nothin to do
Driving the Interstate, I’m stopped for a

Posted by: Megadeth at July 05, 2026 03:26 AM (An2iq)

504 Damnit

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 03:26 AM (An2iq)

505 Oh well, at least we are above 500.

Only halfway to 2276, America.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 03:27 AM (An2iq)

506 81 If you're going to start cloning extinct species, maybe start with the passenger pigeon. Apparently they were so tasty that we ate every single one. Let's get them back on the menu.
Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2026 10:34 PM (JpUeg)

As long as we extinct the damned cargo pigeons first. They shit on everything.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:36 PM (1z8ji)

The more you eat, the more you shit.

Posted by: Mao at July 05, 2026 03:28 AM (An2iq)

507 Oh well. Duty calls.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 03:29 AM (An2iq)

508 PUTIN CALLED TRUMP, INVITED HIM TO VISIT RUSSIA: AXIOS
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Maybe they'll figure out how to get Europe to stop funding Ukraine.

But it's probably got something to do with the (memory here) the Balkins and Finns sabre rattling.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 03:33 AM (jU8k8)

509 People were speculating on, how long before the divorce.

@BuzzPatterson
7h
Taylor Swift forces Travis to sign a 40-page prenuptial agreement that includes an infidelity clause, costing Travis $20M per violation

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 05, 2026 03:19 AM (jU8k
-

"Love means never having to say you're sorry I owe you me $20M $40 $60M $80m."

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 05, 2026 03:50 AM (y1wyK)

510 I'm not sure Taylor Swift realizes that she just put a bounty on his little head, now half the women in America are going to be throwing themselves at Travis just so they can brag about having a $20M vaj.

Posted by: SciVo at July 05, 2026 03:55 AM (Sy6m/)

511 Watching Babylon right now.
Rated X...no.
It DEFINITELY earns an R, though.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 05, 2026 04:00 AM (Cr2ed)

512 Unless Taylor Swift presented me with a couple of babies, I would cheat on her every month. The clock is ticking, bitch.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 04:05 AM (fkjGs)

513
Pixy, in case anyone's here.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2026 04:34 AM (mmrXZ)

514 512 Unless Taylor Swift presented me with a couple of babies, I would cheat on her every month. The clock is ticking, bitch.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2026 04:05 AM (fkjGs)

She is the definition of plain looking.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2026 06:21 AM (pKv0r)

515 Yo, Tay-Tay. Make me a sammich!

Posted by: Things that will never be heard in the Kelce household at July 05, 2026 07:54 AM (c3YdQ)

Saturday Evening Movie Post [moviegique]: The Most Pro-American Movies of the 21st Century (to date)

On this 250th Independence Day, I thought it would be fun to revisit three films that came out in the 21st century that reflected the most positively on this great and glorious nation. There's a thread running through all this, which is probably really obvious. If you're not drunk, it'll probably leap out like a firework with a surprisingly short fuse.

Three guys in trenchcoats standing next to a blue-haired girl leaning on a prison door.

You don't even have to be a great detctive to figure this one out.

The World's Fastest Indian

Released widely in the spring of 2006, this Roger Donaldson (Species, Dante's Peak) biopic tells the story of Burt Munro, a kiwi who (on hearing he has serious heart disease and little time left) mortgages his house and grabs a ship (he cooks and cleans to earn his passage) to Long Beach, California with an idea of getting to the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah to race his Indian (a motorcycle made in Springfield, Massachusetts) and break the world land speed record.

After a rough start in Los Angeles, he's helped out by Tina, a friendly transvestite (Chris Williams, brother of Vanessa, "Dwight" from Dodgeball), buys a junker from Fernando (Paul Rodriguez), who accepts repayment in the form of quick tune-ups, is saved from a breakdown by Jake (a Native American played by Saginaw Grant of the Ridiculous 6), has a one-night stand with Ada (Diane Ladd) and finally makes it to the Flats where he is immediately disqualified before he can enter for not registering on time and for having a motorcycle that's essentially hand-made on the cheap with no safety devices.

The obscure Kiwi is saved through the bold actions of a wired-in white guy who browbeats the officials into letting Burt race where he breaks the speed of sound, then the speed of light, and crashes into the 8th Dimensions to fight Lectroids with Buckaroo Banzai.

OK, maybe not that last part.
Walton Goggins

But Walton Goggins is in it. So it's got that going for it. (Which is nice.)

Actually, maybe not any of it: In real life Munro knew exactly what he was doing, had no time for charming side-quests, wasn't in poor health particularly, and was legendary at the Flats.

Great movie, though. Hopkins performance was true enough to make the Munro family cry. Composer J. Peter Robinson ("Charmed", Wayne's World) channels Thomas Newman and other turn-of-the-century movie composers effectively. The cinematography is gorgeous and the color-coding is spot on. Mornings in New Zealand are pastoral blue, the roads in America are amber-waves-of-grain, and the salt flats are white hot. 

Some of this doesn't play the same in 2026. The aggressively diverse encounters Burt has stick out now in a way they didn't twenty years ago. Even though the intention here is to showcase Burt's general laid back attitude, in today's world it can feel overengineered.

Still, fine film. Wherever Burt goes, there's an American who wants to help. 
Anthony Hopkins on the Bonneville Salt Flats.

Just don't call him a POHMie.

Schultze Gets The Blues

An old German salt-miner retires and finds himself with nothing to do but play polkas and cough ominously. One day, while avoiding a report on lung cancer on the radio, he stumbles across zydeco music which, in true Teutonic fashion, he shrugs off. But then, shocka: He turns back to it, listens to it for a while, picks up his accordion and plays it by ear.
A busy dance hall with Schultze dancing with an American woman.

The dance hall scenes are adorable. The people can't stop looking at the camera.

This becomes a kind of obsession—and you know I love movies about obsessed guys, right?—and he decides to try to raise the money to go to the swamps of America where the music is made. This involves a lot of low paying jobs to cover the ever-increasing fare.

His playing gets negative reactions from most of the townsfolk, but a core group really enjoys it, and because Schultze's a likable guy, they manage to get Schultze to represent them at the traditional German music festival in their sister city in Texas.

So it's an hour into the movie before we get to America, but it looms as a presence throughout. Schultze's quarrelsome friends (one Prussian, the other Saxon) talk about "the Yanks" dismissively, but they envy Schultze and his escape to the New World. They presume he's getting rich and famous and probably lucky and he'll forget all about them. The Americans are nice, they concede.

Schultze, after the traditional music conference, gets himself a rundown houseboat to sail into the swamps to find the home of zydeco. All along the way he encounters people who are eager to help him out, offering guidance, resources, dancing, food, all around a loose theme of "You like music? I like music! We should hang out!" And this when Schultze can barely say "music".

I can (and someday might) do an extensive post on how this film was shot. Each sequence is: The camera is set down, often at a medium-long distance, and the action plays out in front of it. It never moves. Even when attached to a vehicle, it stays fixed staring back at the passengers. At 48 minutes, it swivels about 90 degrees—from Schultze and his friends to the mysterious and sexy Lisa, a waitress who performs an impromptu Flamenco dance to dramatize unplugging the newfangled electronic slot machine.

It's got none of the slick camera movement of Indian and there's no color correction or enhancement. When Lisa does her Flamenco dance, she is wearing a drab tan skirt and dark brown sweater. There are elements of Tati here, and a Wes-Anderson-without-the-twee sense of humor that makes me laugh to beat the band. And it makes me want to take a crummy houseboat into the swamps of Louisiana.
Schulze in his nightshirt, in his living room, playing the accordian

This is apparently a genre called "European Deadpan".

Detective Chinatown 2

At the opposite end from these earlier films is Detective Chinatown 2. I did a full review when I saw it the first time, but it's interesting to revisit it now after the coof swallowed Detective Chinatown 3 and its sequel Detective Chinatown 1900 didn't get an American release either. (There is a spin-off television series of the original movie called "Detective Chinatown". There's also a spin-off series of this movie called, naturally, "Detective Chinatown 2". They do not feature the actors from the movies, nor do they feature the main detective from the movies, but a different actor plays the comic sidekick, who I guess is the real catalyst for the stories. They are not comedies, and I don't understand Asian television.)

While World's Fastest Indian is a big-budget, carefully constructed Hollywood fantasy, and Schultze Gets The Blues is practically cinema verité when it gets to America (the director just dropped actor Horst Krause into situations with whoever was there, and Krause didn't speak much English), DC2 is just trying like crazy to make you laugh and feel good.

It reminds me of Mel Brooks or Benny Hill. There are mobs chasing the heroes through the streets of New York, tough motorcycle gangs with a romantic streak, sassy Chinese bureaucrats, cartoonishly broad racial stereotypes, and an undercover scene where our three heroes dress in nurse drag.
Our heroes dressed as nurses.

Subtlety is not the watchword here.


New York City in DC2 is like Paris in Amelie: There's no sign of graffiti, dog droppings, vagrants—even the crime is stylish and in good fun. When the boys go to a school to check out the number one suspects, all of a sudden the walls are completely plastered with the most aesthetic graffiti imaginable. (Set deisgn!)

Even though there's a shockingly grim set of crimes underneath it all, it's done with the kind of tone-switching the Asians do (on the whole) way better than the West.  The final chase scene is reminiscent of Ferris Beuller's Day Off, as the three heroes on the lam rush to stop a grisly murder, riding in a horse-drawn carriage and leading their pursuers in an impromptu parade, while Taylor Swift's "Welcome To New York" plays.

It's so utterly un-PC, it's one of the best times I've had in a theater in ten years.
Our two heroes fleeing through New York while their pictures are being cast to the nearby skyscrapers.

Yes, this is also how I do stealth missions.

American Exceptionalism

The common thread between all three movies, if you haven't picked it up, is that all three are based around the perspectives of foreigners of this great land of ours. If we look at @FreddieLa7's adventures, among many similar cases, we find that not only are these foreigners' views accurate, they're understated if anything.

While awful things happen every day, we are overly focused on them. The fact is, a country like this doesn't just happen: It exists because every day, ordinary people go out of their way to help others. Part of this is our tremendous affluence. But American hospitality goes back to Plymouth Rock. It is perhaps our greatest inheritance.

Sometimes it takes an outsider to remind us of that.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:05 PM




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1 Figure it'll be a quiet night. But welcome to all.

Just got back from "Young Washington." I'll probably review that for the July 25th post.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 07:31 PM (K40fF)

2 Oh, man, it's so easy posting here now. I should start doing daily reviews.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 07:34 PM (K40fF)

3 Top 10?

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 04, 2026 07:36 PM (Cr2ed)

4 3rd!
Wooho. I'm the 2nd loser!

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 04, 2026 07:36 PM (Cr2ed)

5 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 07:39 PM (Ia/+0)

6 "Babylon" (2022) Deserves an X rating. There's plenty enough good stuff in there, but then ... there's the rest of it. Do I recommend it? No. Will I rewatch it someday? Likely. For quality fam-friendly Chazelle, try "First Man" (201.

"Highway Hell" (1941) Prostitution ring septet works the rural two-lanes and rustic cabin motels of the fruited plain. A couple of the roadsluts aren't bad looking, and they all seem to be 'going my way.'
youtube.com/watch?v=CH66JDsmBX4

"The Red Menace" (1949) Shows how commie spies operate and recruit in the USA. One of the better flicks in this genre, well worth a watch. Barbra Fuller is the most boinkable among the Bolsheviks.
youtube.com/watch?v=6KWHDNPdoCg

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:40 PM (Jr5Lq)

7 "Hula" (1927) Clara Bow gets wet, then she gets lei'd. The infamous nude bathing scene ain't all that, but she looks mighty fine in jodhpurs.
youtube.com/watch?v=2hQR1MpLGDo

"The Wild Party" (1929) Clara Bow is hot for teacher, but why does it have to be Fredric frickin March for cripes sake? Movie starts out fun, then turns too serious. Who needs serious? I wanna climb up in her kee-ray-zee hair and build a squirrel dray. Because that's something that Fred would never do for her. And I need a place to store my nuts.
youtube.com/watch?v=1z4ZhBiobYc

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:41 PM (Jr5Lq)

8 "Land of the Pharaohs" (1955) Things were just ducky for brutal tyrant Khufu, until well-tanned Joan Collins showed up. This good Eastman Color print has vivid hues that will blow your sandals off. Massive Tiomkin score. The trick to writing the ceremonial and processional music for these epics: you can noodle out ANY random melody, as long as it's got a martial staccato beat, and is performed with a stentorian timbre.
ok.ru/video/6691606301211

"Blood Money" (1933) Interesting story and characters. Bug-eyed puffing klepto Frances Dee is mad as a march hare and scary as hell.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:41 PM (Jr5Lq)

9 >>Oh, man, it's so easy posting here now. I should start doing daily reviews.

Well, when the post timestamp is 25 minutes from now, that simplifies it astonishlingly!

Erebus nooded, so the Horde is inbound.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 04, 2026 07:43 PM (NcvvS)

10 Evening, folken,

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is on Movies in about fifteen minutes, if you haven't seen it recently and like James Stewart and especially Jean Arthur as much as I do. Linda's got some fireworks show going on the TV, and I'm going to have to wrestle the remote away from her, methinks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 07:43 PM (wzUl9)

11 Never saw either of the 3 movies

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 07:44 PM (Ia/+0)

12 I'm gonna watch the boom-booms from the deck of the cottage instead of walking down to the beach for that.

I'm all peopled out today.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2026 07:44 PM (NXz0i)

13 Hey, GP! Quite the roundup!

Why should "Bablyon" be X-Rated. I remember it being...well, what we used to call "racy"...but I don't remember it being particularly graphic.

I didn't do a full write-up of that one. Just "Babylon: The worst thing to happen to Singin' In The Rain since A Clockwork Orange!"

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 07:45 PM (K40fF)

14 13 Ha!

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:46 PM (Jr5Lq)

15 11 Never saw either of the 3 movies

I expect most people haven't. "The World's Fastest Indian" flopped. "Schultze Gets The Blues" did fine for an art film, but that's not saying much as far as audience awareness. And "Detective Chinatown 2" was a smash hit! But in China. Not so much in the USA.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 07:46 PM (K40fF)

16 Top photo, Meet the Beatles.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 07:48 PM (LHPAg)

17 Not even 5pm here on the beach. Sun won’t set for four+ hours. Fireworks start after 10. And go until 4am.

Poor Lucy. She’s not going to be a happy kitty.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 04, 2026 07:50 PM (yEz+x)

18 The World's Fastest Indian - saw this by accident, thought, this isn't a great movie but I'm glad it found me. They used to turn out movies like this about one a month or more. Now, do they at all?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 07:51 PM (jU8k8)

19 "Why should "Bablyon" be X-Rated."

Abundant full-frontal nudity, various perversions, like people getting peed on, and murdered during sex.

Pre-Code period stuff was racy. "Babylon" is explicit. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but maybe better to label it as such.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:53 PM (Jr5Lq)

20 Gique, where is "Detective Chinatown 2" available for viewing?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 07:53 PM (kpS4V)

21 I thought Stirling was getting used to the occasional sharp noises on 7/4 and 12/31. Nope; he even turned up his nose at his calming treats to dive under the bed. And there haven't really been any fireworks yet.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 07:53 PM (wzUl9)

22 "The World's Fastest Indian" is an enjoyable film, indeed.
I haven't seen it in ages. Thank you for the reminder.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at July 04, 2026 07:54 PM (Snklc)

23 > Now, do they at all?

Not really. It's a hugely upbeat movie, pro-America, and about going fast and using fossil fuels.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 07:54 PM (K40fF)

24 AI sez: "You can stream the movie "Detective Chinatown 2" for free on Tubi"

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:55 PM (Jr5Lq)

25

My father butt raped from age 3ish to age 9.

That hurt less than this post.

At least he used some sort of grease...

Posted by: Shithurt at July 04, 2026 07:56 PM (Dgvzh)

26 I didn't come prepared with a pro-American movie, but right off the top of my head, I'll re-mention "First Man," an ass-kicking movie about real American heroes, a film with a giant heart. I've seen it maybe ten times already.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:59 PM (Jr5Lq)

27 Abundant full-frontal nudity, various perversions, like people getting peed on, and murdered during sex.
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Huh. I don't remember that, other than by implication.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:00 PM (K40fF)

28 No Saturday in the Park until 2037.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 08:03 PM (4g5V+)

29 20 Gique, where is "Detective Chinatown 2" available for viewing?

24 AI sez: "You can stream the movie "Detective Chinatown 2" for free on Tubi"

AI is wrong. You cannot stream DC2 in the USA as far as I know. And this brings back memories.

When the lockdown hit, I started getting DVDs of Asian movies I had see to re-watch them with the (incarcerated) family. I even did a post on that here called "Reviewing the new classics."

I picked up a bunch of movies easily, but not DC2. I had to get a DVD from Malaysia!

I formulated the idea that this was so un-PC that it was essentially censored in America. I cannot prove this. But given that it was the biggest hit of the DC series, and "Detective Chinatown" (1) is freely available, I think it's not too far-fetched.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:04 PM (K40fF)

30 Awww.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 08:06 PM (kpS4V)

31 I'll bite on the idea of a list of non-obvious pro American movies...

If you are going to list something with drag like "Detective Chinatown 2," you should list the superior "To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything Julie Newmar." Patrick Swayze and Wesley Snipes being amazing, on an classic American road trip movie, finding the goodness in rural American life and helping change others and be changed for the better. And the American dream at the end of winning a pageant.

"My Cousin Vinny," fish out of water in the south, roadtrip gone bad. But it shows the good virtues of the south, and doesn't paint Southerners as clueless yokels. And it shows that the justice system can be noble, even if proving innocence in it can be difficult.

And how about "Scarface" ... you can come from nothing and rise to the top! Sort of. Say hello to my little friend.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 08:07 PM (gWBY1)

32 I thought the movie Independence Day was pretty patriotic. We blew up a dozen mother ships and wiped out an alien race for some good fireworks. America, fuck yeah.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 08:07 PM (S41Gd)

33 It's interesting that "Detective Chinatown" is to Bangkok what "Detective Chinatown 2" is to NYC. And DC3 takes place in Tokyo, and my guess is it's a love song to Tokyo. (Which is impressive, if true, given China/Japan tensions.)

DC4 takes place in San Francisco in 1900.

I should probably get 3 & 4. I'm so disappointed that so many of the theaters have just stopped playing Chinese & Korean stuff. Plenty of Hindi/Telugu/Tamil stuff, tho'.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:07 PM (K40fF)

34 "Detective Chinatown 2"
ok.ru/video/1119308089874
works for me.

They have another copy if that one doesn't work for you.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:08 PM (Jr5Lq)

35 Well, here in mostly liberal NJ it was the largest turnout for an afternoon showing of a matinee I have ever seen -for "Young Washington." . Many people were wearing patriotic shirts. It was an older crowd because you pay less at a matinee. I thought it was very good and I'm kind of amused by the fact that the actor playing Washington is actually English. I hope he learned and appreciated things about Washington which he never knew.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:09 PM (D+BhG)

36 30 Awww.

Yeah, sorry, the answer is "My Jellyfin server."

If you want to see it and can't find a good source, I'll media mail you my copy.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:09 PM (K40fF)

37 I'm doing a more classic pro American movie marathon today. Rocky, National Treasure, and Apollo 13. Maybe slip in Big Trouble in Little China if there's time. (The last one is another not-obvious love letter to America.)

"May the wings of liberty never lose a feather."

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 08:09 PM (gWBY1)

38 Holy shite, our library system has Detective Chinatown 2!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 08:09 PM (kpS4V)

39 "And how about "Scarface" ... you can come from nothing and rise to the top! Sort of. Say hello to my little friend."

I recently rewatched the DePalma "Scarface," and still love it. Nothing wrong with the 1932 "Scarface" either. Make it a double feature.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:11 PM (Jr5Lq)

40 It's pronounced Scar-FAH-chey.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 08:12 PM (kpS4V)

41 The only line that I recall from 'The World's Fastest Indian' is when, in an early scene, Munro washes out and falls in a beach race. He picks himself up, and utters, 'Bugger'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 08:13 PM (XeU6L)

42 Cable is out until 11:30. I’m going to miss the whole fucking shindig.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2026 08:14 PM (+uKTE)

43 Naw scarface 1983 is turrble down to murray abrahams accent and pfeiffers die job

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 08:14 PM (jOF+o)

44 Abundant full-frontal nudity, various perversions, like people getting peed on, and murdered during sex.

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Go on. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2026 08:14 PM (NXz0i)

45 And I appreciated the remarks of one of the screenwriters who was Dutch and a Christian, who come here a number of years ago, loved America and became a citizen:

https://tinyurl.com/5cejbp2s

I think Angel Studios has redeemed itself after the apparently awful Animal Farm, although I didn't see that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:14 PM (D+BhG)

46 38 Holy shite, our library system has Detective Chinatown 2!

!!!!

The one I was having trouble securing to review for this...uh...review was "Schultze Gets The Blues".

There's a site called "Hoopla" that had it. But Hoopla is tied to your library card. Hmmph. Well, Hoopla provides links on how to get a library card on line. I got one in 5 minutes and was actually able to go back and watch "Schultze" in, like, 10 minutes.

A rare occasion where technology worked seamlessly and to my advantage!

Which I'm probably also paying for with my tax dollars.

:'-(

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:14 PM (K40fF)

47 "murray abrahams accent"

Yeah, but he pays the ultimate price for talking like that.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:15 PM (Jr5Lq)

48 Did someone else discuss "The Great Escape"? That's very pro American.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:15 PM (D+BhG)

49 Just got back from "Young Washington." I'll probably review that for the July 25th post.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 07:31 PM (K40fF)
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How about a teaser? Were you entertained?

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 08:15 PM (dIske)

50 Which I'm probably also paying for with my tax dollars.
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How else are vagrants going to watch porn?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 08:15 PM (kpS4V)

51 > He picks himself up, and utters, 'Bugger'.

"Bob's your uncle."
"I'm not a bloody Pommie." (I fell for Prisoner of Her Majesty, POHMie but that's not correct.)
"Dirty old men need love, too."

Those come to mind. But I just rewatched.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:17 PM (K40fF)

52 Agreed

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 08:17 PM (jOF+o)

53 Forgot to link "Blood Money" (1933):
ok.ru/video/284475656867

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

54
Is Comment 25 a nasty troll?


Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 08:22 PM (/QHx4)

55 > 48 Did someone else discuss "The Great Escape"? That's very pro American.

So, I didn't cover it because the post is long enough already, but I didn't not consider any military film. War tends to be a highly specific circumstance.

I was looking for movies that reflected the culture(s) of America as an ordinary, identifiable day-to-day life--ones that didn't bother with America's flaws.

With that restraint, it almost had to be foreign films.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:23 PM (K40fF)

56 "didn't not"

oy

> Is Comment 25 a nasty troll?

It's not a nice one.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:24 PM (K40fF)

57 "The Return of the Living Dead" is a Fourth of July movie.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2026 08:24 PM (CHHv1)

58 49 Just got back from "Young Washington." I'll probably review that for the July 25th post.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 07:31 PM (K40fF)
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How about a teaser? Were you entertained?
Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 08:15 PM (dIske)

I saw it today - it's great! I recommend everyone see it. Rather than showing Washington as the made man we all know, it shows how the boy became the great man he was.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:25 PM (tOcjL)

59 "Patton" (1970). That's patriotic, and everybody loves it. My mom took me to the theater for that one.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:25 PM (Jr5Lq)

60 Yes thats a great film ive probably watched it 25-30 times even though i know how it ends

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 08:25 PM (jOF+o)

61 If I were to pick a pro-American film I think I might surprise people with my choice, but not my reasons.

I would suggest: "Casablanca"

There's no overt reference to the US other than "Rick" an American who set up a club on foreign soil. The whole purpose of his character is to reflect the very question that was on everyone's mind in the US. "Do we want to be in this war?" He's less a character, and more an idea/ choice. Ulimately, he decides to sacrifice his personal successes, sacrifice his personal life, and go all in on doing what he comes to believe is the right thing to do. The film came out in 1942, and likely was instramental in solidifying the choice we made to join the war 12/7/41 out of necessity.

In my mind, that's what makes a classic movie. There was no one in the US (and other countries) who couldn't relate to that very purposeful choice. That seems pretty pro-American to me.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 08:26 PM (dIske)

62 Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:25 PM (tOcjL)

And I appreciated the fact that he failed at some things and learned from that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:26 PM (D+BhG)

63 I wanna climb up in her kee-ray-zee hair and build a squirrel dray. Because that's something that Fred would never do for her. And I need a place to store my nuts.
youtube.com/watch?v=1z4ZhBiobYc

Posted by: gp
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Knew a guy at school like that. Had it for his wife and she was very cute. I was like, Really? yep really.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 08:27 PM (jU8k8)

64 62 Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:25 PM (tOcjL)

And I appreciated the fact that he failed at some things and learned from that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:26 PM (D+BhG)

Yes, it's a great movie to take kids to (if they can handle battle scenes) b/c it does reinforce that success is no guarantee, and failure is okay and can be a stepping stone on which to grow...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:28 PM (tOcjL)

65 34 "Detective Chinatown 2"
ok.ru/video/1119308089874
works for me.

They have another copy if that one doesn't work for you.

Posted by: gp
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They have Schultz too. Both in native language. No English.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 08:29 PM (jU8k8)

66 The greatest America F0qk Yeah! movie was Independence Day obviously

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 08:29 PM (w0CFP)

67 Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:28 PM (tOcjL

Yes. That was an important message and my son who is in his 20's was the youngest person there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:30 PM (D+BhG)

68 67 Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:28 PM (tOcjL

Yes. That was an important message and my son who is in his 20's was the youngest person there.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:30 PM (D+BhG)

I had my teen boys, and saw more teens in my showings...my kids all liked it!

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:31 PM (tOcjL)

69 Watching The Right Stuff, haven't seen it in a long time but shouldn't stay up

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:31 PM (Ia/+0)

70 Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026

That's great!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:32 PM (D+BhG)

71 66 The greatest America F0qk Yeah! movie was Independence Day obviously
Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 08:29 PM (w0CFP)

Ummm, by your definition, it's actually Team America: World Police

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:32 PM (tOcjL)

72 Also Stargate.
There is talk that ID4 was supposed to be the sequel. Some of this is sketched in the novels. But the novels became very very bad so ID4 became the standalone.
SG1 is the reboot of the terrible novels.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 08:33 PM (w0CFP)

73 I'm not a fan of Zendaya, but she and Robert Pattinson were very good in "The Drama". They play a young couple very much in love who are asked by the best man's shit-stirrer wife "What's the worst thing you've ever done?" They reluctantly tell stories of hurtful things they've done --a couple of which are pretty bad -- and Zendaya's character reveals that when she was a mixed up teen she had fantasies of doing a school shooting, even bringing her father's weapon into school. She never does it, eventually even becoming anti-gun, but it's too late now, her fiancée has real doubts about her, and it starts to corrode their relationship.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 08:34 PM (kpS4V)

74 I am grateful to my parents for bringing me here as a child from the third world Islamic shithole. Not saying which shitholes but there were two. Today they might be just about the same.
Some don't appreciate America until they see what they are up against.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 08:36 PM (w0CFP)

75 Also watching on Tubi this week a French series The Village.
Follows town's citizens from fall of France in 1940 and says ends in 1945. On episode 8, been good so far.
Suspect some of these won't last to the end.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:36 PM (Ia/+0)

76 I’ve always Forrest Gump was decidedly pro America.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2026 08:36 PM (+uKTE)

77 Not saying y'all's movies are not pro-USA America, of course. I like "Casablanca" with Rick as a stand-in for all of America. "Independence Day" has that classic '50s approach of "Yeah, when the aliens come, America is basically in charge of the world."

But I was looking for 21st century movies.

Also, I was looking for average(ish) Americans in average(ish) situations.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:38 PM (K40fF)

78 “ Thought” that is.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2026 08:38 PM (+uKTE)

79
Unexpectedly pro-American film: Shane. Even though Director George Stevens didn't bother changing the Anglo names of the characters from the book, he made a point of placing several foreigners among the homesteaders to show that they were Americans united from all over the world. "Ernie Wright" was played by an actor famed for his exotic accents, and his character was seemingly German. "Swede" and Mrs. Shipstead and Axel Johnson were another set of foreigners. (Hollywood didn't mind these mismatched names/accents in those days apparently). Torrey the southerner and the Starretts were part of the community, too. You don't know the Starretts complete backstory, but they clearly came from genteel families and they'd been educated and "finished" elsewhere -- but Starrett insisted on forging a way for himself as a homesteader and steadily refused the cattle baron's offer of a more lucrative job working for him.

Although the settlers and homesteaders are living pretty rough, you can see the rising prosperity in a scene where they all go to Grafton's and they look through a catalog with fancy clothes.

There's a Fourth of July celebration in the movie, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 08:39 PM (mmrXZ)

80 I've never known anyone who didn't like Scarface except for the occasional person who can't take Pacino's over the top Montana and focus a lot on the accent - but holy shit if you can get by it even slightly and just enjoy watching someone chew out the scenery of his own movie and any other movie playing within a seven block and seven day radius, you're gonna have a damn good time.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 08:39 PM (vE0+H)

81 Post 9-11 pro America movies are hard to find.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 08:41 PM (w0CFP)

82 44 Abundant full-frontal nudity, various perversions, like people getting peed on, and murdered during sex.

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Go on. . .

Posted by: Tonypete
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I can't find it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 08:43 PM (jU8k8)

83 I don't think I've ever seen any 21st century movies where foreigners came to the U.S.A and appreciate it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:44 PM (Bw1/o)

84 81 Post 9-11 pro America movies are hard to find.

Especially American-made ones.

73 I'm not a fan of Zendaya, but she and Robert Pattinson were very good in "The Drama".

That worked for me. I thought I covered it here but I see I went for "Over Your Dead Body" instead. I had a very similar take on it.

https://moviegique.com/reviews/the-drama/

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:44 PM (K40fF)

85
There's a Fourth of July celebration in the movie, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 08:39 PM (mmrXZ)

Sort of a subject change here but in a way, not. I watched Battle of Britain recently and really dug the Nazi rally that was filled to the brim with excited cheering women, with the men at war.

An image you don't see every day and has actually been drummed out of polite society in favor of the stereotypical crowds of scary racist white men - but 100% balls on accurate. Hitler had millions and millions of fawning female fans.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 08:44 PM (vE0+H)

86 81 Post 9-11 pro America movies are hard to find.

Which is weird.

83 I don't think I've ever seen any 21st century movies where foreigners came to the U.S.A and appreciate it.

Helps to watch =foreign= films. Finding American movies that are appreciative of America is hard.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:44 PM (K40fF)

87 "Shane" (1953) Brilliant and flawless. Must see. 10 out of 10.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:45 PM (Jr5Lq)

88 I've never known anyone who didn't like Scarface....
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When I first saw it, at jarhead boyfriend's insistence, the chainsaw scene nearly made me hurl. BF just laughed and laughed. Savages, the lot of 'em!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 08:45 PM (kpS4V)

89 Harold and Kumar (first one) was pro America.
If they could just get rid of Americans.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 08:47 PM (w0CFP)

90 Oh, ok....21st Century film. Then I'm going to go with "Miracle." That is the account of the 1980 US Olympic hockey team. The film and the event made a major impression. I can still name a number of the players, and that was nearly 50 years ago in a sport that I have no particular interest in.

"DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES!!!!! YES!!!!"
- Al Michaels

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 08:47 PM (dIske)

91 But I was looking for 21st century movies.

Also, I was looking for average(ish) Americans in average(ish) situations.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)
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Excellent concept the only problem is that I don't speak German or Chinese. Considering the crap they put out today you probably couldn't find three within the parameters you set.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 08:48 PM (jU8k8)

92 The Green Inferno was pro-American to the extent that the anti-Americans were almost all eaten by cannibals.

Posted by: Wally at July 04, 2026 08:49 PM (0e5Te)

93 83 I don't think I've ever seen any 21st century movies where foreigners came to the U.S.A and appreciate it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 08:44 PM (Bw1/o)

Elf wildly appreciates America...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:49 PM (tOcjL)

94 When I first saw it, at jarhead boyfriend's insistence, the chainsaw scene nearly made me hurl. BF just laughed and laughed. Savages, the lot of 'em!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 08:45 PM (kpS4V)

Scene is brutal and shocking. If I told you how old I was when I first saw it, you would hurl again. Probably didn't do my head any good. Rest of the movie is a tour de force, maybe a little of its time and extremely DePalmy - and you do have to get past the chainsaw and Pacino's caricature - but I would never deny it's a fantastic film.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 08:50 PM (vE0+H)

95 > Hitler had millions and millions of fawning female fans.

One of the gags...I think of it as a gag, but it probably just reflects my lack of understanding of '60s British privlic schools...but one of the gags of "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie" is that she ADORES Mussolini.

> Young Washington

I enjoyed this a great deal. It is well-shot, well-edited, well-acted--I mean, I hate to underscore this but right-wing movies often have more heart than technical skill. This feels like a real movie.

It does not quite, in my mind, rise to the level of the Korean historical dramas. But it's a damn good film, and it makes you want to see more of the time period, which has been grossly underserved in the past 50 years.

Curiously, yesterday it had a 6.1 on IMDB. Usually ratings go down as review quantities go up, but it is now at 7.0. I might put it as high as a 7.3.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:50 PM (K40fF)

96 "Excellent concept the only problem is that I don't speak German or Chinese."

I'll see if I can find a speech to text translator that can run alongside a streaming movie that does not have subtitles. If I find one that works, I'll report back in a future thread.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:52 PM (Jr5Lq)

97
Man, this rained-out 250th in DC is a bummer. Trump should just go out to that trailer with the WWII veterans and party.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 08:52 PM (mmrXZ)

98 90 Oh, ok....21st Century film. Then I'm going to go with "Miracle."

Heh. I had to look it up. Yeah, it's around the same time as "Schultze" and "Indian".

It's definitely pro-America. Or pro-1980 America.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 08:52 PM (K40fF)

99 Pacino in Scarface is like a cross between Peter Lorre and Senor Wences. And then there's the incest angle.
Terrible movie.

Posted by: Wally at July 04, 2026 08:53 PM (0e5Te)

100 97
Man, this rained-out 250th in DC is a bummer. Trump should just go out to that trailer with the WWII veterans and party.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 08:52 PM (mmrXZ)

It's why they originally scheduled the fireworks for 11pm...that's usually when weather clears...

My kids are in the rain watching neighbors light fireworks (our neighborhood show got busted by a dog owner who brought the cops a few years ago, son in revenge, now it's every man and women for themselves b/c those are not "organized" and thus are never shut down)...less safe and cool than the old show, but more American somehow...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:54 PM (tOcjL)

101 son = so (dang typo)

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:55 PM (tOcjL)

102 That part was basef on a guy who was in the lion tamer guy

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 08:57 PM (jOF+o)

103 "this rained-out 250th in DC is a bummer"

I asked an AI how much water was in this week's humid heat dome. It said 225 gigatons. I asked how much latent energy was in that water vapor. 140 trillion kWh, equivalent of 2400 Tsar Bombas. I knew when the heat broke, that water had to land on somebody.

The Water Cycle knows no mercy.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 08:58 PM (Jr5Lq)

104 It's why they originally scheduled the fireworks for 11pm...that's usually when weather clears...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 08:54 PM (tOcjL)

______________________________

And as despisable as they are California and Hawaii are part of the celebration too.

Anyway....850,000 shells are being used for this fireworks display....That's about 100 times more than big city displays who use anywhere between 7000 and 10000. DC is going to be loud and bright tonight.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 08:58 PM (dIske)

105
The Water Cycle knows no mercy.
Posted by: gp

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And no appointment calendar.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 08:59 PM (mmrXZ)

106 Didn't care much for DePalma's Scarface when I first saw it. Caught it some years later, not sure why, and kinda liked it the next time around. Almost everyone in the movie is something of a slimeball, but mostly they get what they've got coming, so there's that.

Energy up the wazoo -- an almost 3-hr movie that doesn't feel close to 3 hours, so it gets a lot of points there.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 04, 2026 08:59 PM (q3u5l)

107 An image you don't see every day and has actually been drummed out of polite society in favor of the stereotypical crowds of scary racist white men - but 100% balls on accurate. Hitler had millions and millions of fawning female fans.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 08:44 PM (vE0+H)

Obama, mandami, etc. Nothing new when it comes to slimeballs.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 09:01 PM (S41Gd)

108 Tiger king

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 09:01 PM (jOF+o)

109 Pacino in Scarface is the benchmark Marielito.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 04, 2026 09:03 PM (dCWmY)

110 It is an insult to my people in so many ways (of course its an oliver stone script)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 09:04 PM (jOF+o)

111 Obama, mandami, etc. Nothing new when it comes to slimeballs.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 09:01 PM (S41Gd)
________________

That's the worst punishment for me. I have all these fawning women pursuing me, and I prefer Bubba in the cell next to mine.

Posted by: Luigi at July 04, 2026 09:04 PM (dIske)

112 Young Washington, watch on Prime or go to a theater.
There's not a theater in this little town and I don't belong to Prime.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:05 PM (jU8k8)

113 Pacino en Scarface es el Marielito authentico.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 04, 2026 09:05 PM (dCWmY)

114 The human colony on Titan will probably use the methane cycle.
1% of the solar energy but it can still run a (methano)hydrochloride.
Powerful force

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:05 PM (sHiqN)

115 I didn't like Pacino in Scar Face, but then wasn't my kind of movie

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 09:06 PM (Ia/+0)

116 112 Young Washington, watch on Prime or go to a theater.
There's not a theater in this little town and I don't belong to Prime.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:05 PM (jU8k

Take a weekend getaway and include a movie in the experience...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 09:06 PM (tOcjL)

117 Human colonies on Titan will have to watch out for any remaining nests of Heinlein's Puppet Master slugs.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 04, 2026 09:06 PM (q3u5l)

118 I better call it a night
Hope everyone had a great Independence day

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 09:07 PM (Ia/+0)

119 I'm drunk, so I'm out on this one.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 04, 2026 09:07 PM (QaH55)

120 Today I watched, free on Prime, a German movie "The Tiger" about a Tiger tank in WW2 sent on a secret mission to retrieve a German colonel from behind Soviet lines in 1943. It was pretty good and not at all what I was expecting.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 04, 2026 09:07 PM (DZ9Lv)

121 Fireworks of course but thin hearing thunder too

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 09:08 PM (Ia/+0)

122 Minus: asshole wearing a shirt "only here for the fireworks". Also various canvassers with petitions
Plus: one of the canvassers was Republican, libertarian anyway (against gerrymandering). And like 20 years old.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:08 PM (sHiqN)

123 There's humor in the DePalma "Scarface" too, like the scene of Manny flirting on the beach, and Tony flirting with Elvira.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 09:08 PM (Jr5Lq)

124 There's a Fourth of July celebration in the movie, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Super movie except for that faggot kid.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:08 PM (jU8k8)

125 *hydrocycle. Stupid phone

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:09 PM (sHiqN)

126 115 I didn't like Pacino in Scar Face, but then wasn't my kind of movie

Posted by: Skip
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A degenerate movie.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:11 PM (jU8k8)

127 Scarface was DePalma. All his movies are degenerate and stupid

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:12 PM (sHiqN)

128 Liked fireworks when I was a kid, and when I was setting some off for my own kids later, but that's quite a while back. These days, even though I understand and completely approve of what's being celebrated, they're just another noisy annoyance like auto boom boxes going by at 2am.

They've been loud here for a couple of days now, and that'll continue until at least Tuesday. Oh, well...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 04, 2026 09:12 PM (q3u5l)

129 These are not the most pro-American movies of the 21st century. Not even close.

They are, as mentioned at the end of the post, outsider looks at America. A separate genre.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 04, 2026 09:14 PM (xcxpd)

130 127 Scarface was DePalma. All his movies are degenerate and stupid
Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:12 PM (sHiqN)

Hardly. The Untouchables is DePalma.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 04, 2026 09:14 PM (xcxpd)

131 103 "this rained-out 250th in DC is a bummer"
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If I had kids I would have taken them to DC. I would have filled their mushy heads with Americana they wouldn't begin to appreciate till they were 25. That's OK.
I saw an itinerary, there's more to come.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:15 PM (jU8k8)

132 120 Today I watched, free on Prime, a German movie "The Tiger" about a Tiger tank in WW2

I love a good, or even so-so, Tank movie.

T-34 came out right after the collaboration nonsense and our theater actually got people yelling at them that they shouldn't be showing a Russian movie!

https://moviegique.com/reviews/t-34/

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 09:17 PM (K40fF)

133 Untouchables is something else entirely

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 09:17 PM (jOF+o)

134 131 103 "this rained-out 250th in DC is a bummer"
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If I had kids I would have taken them to DC. I would have filled their mushy heads with Americana they wouldn't begin to appreciate till they were 25. That's OK.
I saw an itinerary, there's more to come.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:15 PM (jU8k

I'm doing that Tuesday...when the weather is not surface of the sun...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 04, 2026 09:19 PM (tOcjL)

135 I still can't believe Lethal Weapon, The Untouchables, Predator, Robocop, Evil Dead II, The Naked Gun, A Fish Called Wanda, Midnight Run and Die Hard all came out within about a year of each other. Mindboggling to me. I thought movies were going to be amazing forever.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 09:21 PM (vE0+H)

136 It's official, the vast majority of screen writers are retarded these days:

Case 1: Just watched the most recent "Odyssey" trailer, and that Spiderman guy uses the word "Dad" instead of father. That term didn't come into creation until 6200 years later...but it gave Pattison an opportunity to make a "daddy joke." How's Odysseus going to greet Polites? "Sup' my homey?"

Case 2: New Reagan film about the Iceland Conference with Gorbachev. The trailer has Reagan suggesting a full nuclear disarmament, and Gorbachev being coy/ disagreeable. Only, in real life it was Gorbie who made that suggestion, following up on his media releases prior to the conference....because their infrastructure was crumbling....hence Chernobyl three months earlier.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 09:22 PM (dIske)

137 I've mentioned my enjoyment of the works of Anthony Horowitz and his latest novel, A Deadly Episode. In that Hawthorne and Horowitz adventure, he describes how he met Hawthorne when he was technical advisor on a screenplay he had written, Injustice. I didn't know whether Injustice was a real thing or if he had made it so I looked it up and found it on Prime. Not the greatest series ever but I did enjoy it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 09:23 PM (ndZc7)

138 Forgot Untouchables.
Didn't see Midnight Run. Wasn't Spaceballs also in that 1987 era?

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:25 PM (HqQh+)

139 Mark,

You're the only one who bit on my click-bait-y title!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 09:26 PM (K40fF)

140 Didn't see Midnight Run. Wasn't Spaceballs also in that 1987 era?

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:25 PM (HqQh+)

Ha, I nearly included that. One of my favorite comedies for sure. Midnight Run is a great movie and still holds up today. Only problem is you have to stare at DeNiro but it's one of the last movies he actually tried in.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 09:26 PM (vE0+H)

141 Freedom 250 Grand Prix of Washington, D.C.
When: August 22–23, 2026 · Practice and qualifying Saturday; race Sunday
Where: Street circuit on the National Mall

The 2026 Patriot Games
America's next generation of leaders, competitors, and champions will take center stage Aug. 9-11 at the 2026 Patriot Games, a national athletic competition celebrating the character, determination, and excellence that define the American spirit.

The Great American State Fair
A world-class exposition and modern-day World’s Fair celebrating the people, traditions, innovations, and spirit that make America the greatest nation on Earth. Featuring more than 150 exhibits from all 56 states and territories, - through July 10 & they are all Air Conditioned

American Heroes Student Art Contest
Submission Requirements: Participating students should create and submit an original, handmade two-dimensional artwork and a 200-word artist statement (100 words for elementary students). Use the steps outlined in the section below.

Submission Categories: Upper Elementary School Students (Grades 3-5); Middle School Students (Grades 6-; High School Students (Grades 9-12
July 10.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:26 PM (jU8k8)

142 Ooh Cherry 2000 was a 1987 movie

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:27 PM (HqQh+)

143 New Reagan film about the Iceland Conference with Gorbachev.

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I watched a YT about upcoming historical dramas. One was set in the deep dark days of the '70s. Real historical.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 09:28 PM (ndZc7)

144 140 Didn't see Midnight Run. Wasn't Spaceballs also in that 1987 era?

Posted by: gKWVE
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You didn't see Midnight Run?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:28 PM (jU8k8)

145 Gus Fring poisoned Tony Montana's bud Maneo in Breaking Bad.

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2026 09:30 PM (Q+gd/)

146 Gus Fring poisoned Tony Montana's bud Maneo in Breaking Bad.
Posted by: davidt

That was a baaad scene.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 04, 2026 09:32 PM (DZ9Lv)

147 Decided a while back that I was done with movies that were going to impart wisdom or great moral lessons to my undeserving self. Mostly because the screenwriters don't seem to be any sharper than I am.

Viewing over the last week or so has included The Haunting (63, not the 99 abomination), The Thing (51 and 82), The Legend of Hell House, Colossus: The Forbin Project, The Innocents, Twilight (the Paul Newman flick, not the sparkly vampires one), and Out of the Past. All of which hold up quite nicely.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 04, 2026 09:32 PM (q3u5l)

148 I didn't love Breaking Bad but I thought Manny was the weakest part of it and not close. Not remotely believable at being a crime boss, even a lowlife one.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 09:32 PM (vE0+H)

149 Today I watched, free on Prime, a German movie "The Tiger" about a Tiger tank in WW2 sent on a secret mission to retrieve a German colonel from behind Soviet lines in 1943. It was pretty good and not at all what I was expecting.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal

That's a bingo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 09:32 PM (ndZc7)

150 *hydrocycle. Stupid phone
Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:09 PM (sHiqN)


We had one of those but it leaked.

Should have bought the BSA or Enfield, instead of the Lucas.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 09:32 PM (rbvCR)

151 135 I still can't believe Lethal Weapon, The Untouchables, Predator, Robocop, Evil Dead II, The Naked Gun, A Fish Called Wanda, Midnight Run and Die Hard all came out within about a year of each other. Mindboggling to me. I thought movies were going to be amazing forever.

Posted by: ... at July 04,
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Then the faggot commies took over.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:33 PM (jU8k8)

152 Gavin Newsom launches unhinged rant distancing himsel from wiretapper Alexis Podesta trib.al/P2zOfZU

He's afraid!

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:34 PM (HqQh+)

153 After the watching the DC fireworks on TV, I'm going to watch Young Guns then Red Dawn

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 04, 2026 09:35 PM (3cUTc)

154 JSG,

Nice lineup!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 09:36 PM (K40fF)

155 Then the faggot commies took over.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:33 PM (jU8k

That's like the "murders began" story starter. It can be a catch-all ending line to anything.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 09:36 PM (vE0+H)

156 148 I didn't love Breaking Bad but I thought Manny was the weakest part of it and not close. Not remotely believable at being a crime boss, even a lowlife one.

Posted by: ...
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It wasn't to love but it was a piece that worked. The writers actually created a narrative and kept it going and growing without too much vamping. Considering today's offerings it was a worthy accomplishment.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:38 PM (jU8k8)

157 Out, the fire nation
In. The faggot commies

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:38 PM (HqQh+)

158 It can be a catch-all ending line to anything.

Posted by: ...
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It we don't butch up it may be.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:39 PM (jU8k8)

159 Case 1: Just watched the most recent "Odyssey" trailer, and that Spiderman guy uses the word "Dad" instead of father. That term didn't come into creation until 6200 years later...but it gave Pattison an opportunity to make a "daddy joke." How's Odysseus going to greet Polites? "Sup' my homey?"

If the trailer is any indication the movie is going to have some of the cringiest dialog ever.

Posted by: Tuna at July 04, 2026 09:39 PM (lJ0H4)

160 Damn constitution!

March For Our Lives
@AMarch4OurLives
Gun violence in America was not an accident. It was built through specific decisions, laws, and power structures, going back to the founding.
250 years later, we're still living with the consequences.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 09:39 PM (ndZc7)

161 Marr margolis may be

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 09:41 PM (jOF+o)

162 Nice fireworks out of New York.

Trump will speak at America 250 at 11:00 pm then the fireworks will commence, because he wills it so!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 09:41 PM (kpS4V)

163 LOL... headline I just saw on MSN...

France deploying shipt to straight of H...

And the Pic? a RUSSIAN CRUISER.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 09:42 PM (mP0Kj)

164 160 Damn constitution!

March For Our Lives
@AMarch4OurLives
Gun violence in America was not an accident. It was built through specific decisions, laws, and power structures, going back to the founding.
250 years later, we're still living with the consequences.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 09:39 PM (ndZc7)

America, the last place that has any vestige of Freedom of Speech... because of the Founding Father's belief that citizens get to make their own damn decisions...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2026 09:43 PM (mP0Kj)

165 If I catch Nolan's Odyssey, I'll probably wait for a cheap streaming rental. Looking forward to cringey dialogue. Maybe we'll be lucky enough to get something that will be quoted long after the movie is forgotten. "Yonduh lies da cavern of da Cyclops," or something.

Liked Breaking Bad, but I can never seen Esposito without thinking of his brief turn as the bumbling wanna-be PI in Twilight (the Newman flick) or his walk-on getting fried by the game machine in the greatest cinematic epic of our time, Maximum Overdrive.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 04, 2026 09:44 PM (q3u5l)

166 Gun violence in America was not an accident. It was built through specific decisions, laws, and power structures, going back to the founding.
250 years later, we're still living with the consequences.

Um, why is “gun violence” bad and violence by any and all other means perfectly OK?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 09:44 PM (M5CvA)

167 Gun violence in America was not an accident. It was built through specific decisions, laws, and power structures, going back to the founding.
250 years later, we're still living with the consequences.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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You betcha'!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 09:45 PM (jU8k8)

168 "Breaking Bad" had great character development all around. Fine villains, and all the actors swung for the fences.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 09:45 PM (Jr5Lq)

169 Who's laughing now?

A month before he died, Rob Reiner filmed his final role as George Washington in Larry David’s historical sketch comedy series “Life, Larry and the Pursuit of Unhappiness.”
His appearance in the HBO show was kept a secret until the second episode aired on July 3. The sketch allows Reiner, who was an outspoken critic of Donald Trump, to get the “last laugh” against the sitting president, director Jeff Schaffer tells Variety.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 09:46 PM (ndZc7)

170 > Um, why is “gun violence” bad and violence by any and all other means perfectly OK?

Because gun violence is especially effective against authority.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 09:47 PM (K40fF)

171 The sketch allows Reiner, who was an outspoken critic of Donald Trump, to get the “last laugh” against the sitting president, director Jeff Schaffer tells Variety.
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Because Trump has been notoriously quiet since Reiner died.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 09:47 PM (K40fF)

172 Happy 250th you morons. I think John Adams was right, we should celebrate the 2nd but I guess we lost that argument.

So good to see grammie winger post today. Many moons ago I suggested to a poster named momma winger that as much as she posted about her grandkids that she should make a change, and by gum she did.

Grammie and I live not to far apart, S WI and N IL. Many prayers from here.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at July 04, 2026 09:48 PM (55Qr6)

173 43 Naw scarface 1983 is turrble down to murray abrahams accent and pfeiffers die job
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 04, 2026 08:14 PM (jOF+o)

Mob movies as a whole suck. There are a few exceptions. YMMV.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 09:49 PM (M5CvA)

174 Happened to catch LOVE AND DEATH ON LONG ISLAND, which is DEATH IN VENICE remade in an American context. What could be more pro-American than an over-educated, pretentious British novelist (John Hurt) becoming infatuated with an American pop icon (Jason Priestly) and travelling to Long Island to lie and ingratiate himself into the pop icon's life?

Posted by: Lex at July 04, 2026 09:51 PM (y4H1r)

175 Hey Farmer!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:52 PM (lfni7)

176 And outta here for the evening.

Hope you've all had a pleasant 4th.

Moviegique, thanks for the thread.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 04, 2026 09:54 PM (q3u5l)

177 I think Red Dawn was a good pro America movie. Came out in 1984 I think.

Posted by: Case at July 04, 2026 09:56 PM (IY9No)

178 Thanks all for movie chat!

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 09:57 PM (Jr5Lq)

179 It will be my third time to say this, but I really enjoyed Song Sung Blue. It's a real story, based on real people. Kate Hudson is one of my favorites and she does a great job here, as does Hugh Jackman. I knew nothing about this, not a Neil Diamond fan or a fan of tribute bands. They just really want to entertain people and make enough to pay the bills.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026 09:57 PM (bkuEU)

180 Hey Farmer!
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:52

Howdy SMH! I've heard you moved, did you escape IL and Prickster? Happy Independence Day.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at July 04, 2026 09:58 PM (55Qr6)

181 For those who like to read (I know, movie thread) the author TJ English has written a some great books about the Cuban exiles and their criminal activities. The Last Kilo and The Corporation, along with Havana Nocturne.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 04, 2026 09:59 PM (QaH55)

182 The sketch allows Reiner, who was an outspoken critic of Donald Trump, to get the “last laugh” against the sitting president, director Jeff Schaffer tells Variety.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 09:46 PM (ndZc7)

Uh - I'm not incredibly familiar with death but that is definitely not how that works.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 09:59 PM (vE0+H)

183 Notsothoreau,

I feel like they mismanaged that ad campaign.

Anyway, thanks, all for coming.

Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 04, 2026 09:59 PM (K40fF)

184 While nothing is ever quite finished, my Neovim Screenwriting config has reached mvp status.

I got a bug about writing a script for a couple of things that have been kicking around my head, and really didn't like what was out there.

I'm a vim guy and having to do anything with a mouse breaks my flow so this is completely a keyboard experience, it's essentially Wordstar with screen wrtiting hooks and Vim keys and motions.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 04, 2026 09:59 PM (XV/Pl)

185 On the subject of the American movie or America


The Jacksonian Tradition

https://tinyurl.com/4uakukck

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:03 PM (jU8k8)

186 179...I also saw SONG SUNG BLUE recently. It was charming and cute. There were a few too many deus ex machina moments for me to fully buy in, but it was well done overall. Hugh Jackman's versatility is constantly surprising me.

Posted by: Lex at July 04, 2026 10:03 PM (y4H1r)

187 149 Today I watched, free on Prime, a German movie "The Tiger" about a Tiger tank in WW2 sent on a secret mission to retrieve a German colonel from behind Soviet lines in 1943. It was pretty good and not at all what I was expecting.
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I was watching a documentary recently where someone high in the German Wehrmacht (schwere Panzer-Abteilungen). I forget the guy's name. He was talking about the first time they had captured and had an opportunity to evaluate US made tanks....and the guy said he was horrorfied...because everyting in the US tank seemed to be easily rigged for repairs, and that no matter what they did they couldn't get the US tank to break down with significant problems...as opposed to the Panzers and Tigers, that couldn't go a decent distance without breaking down, and requiring difficult repairs. He said you had to be a contortionist to repair german tanks, while the US tanks had everything right there in front of you...and you could repair on the run.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 10:06 PM (dIske)

188 If you read the story behind it, most of those were true. There was a documentary made, and that's what interested them in making the movie.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026 10:08 PM (bkuEU)

189 Reiner getting the last word reminds me of Dumb and Dumber.
"He blamed me. You heard him. Those were his last words."
"Not if you count the gurgling sound."

I thought Reiner was killed by his son, but it turns out karma killed him.

Posted by: Wally at July 04, 2026 10:11 PM (0e5Te)

190 Just got back from Young Washington in the theater. I enjoyed it. There were two big battle scenes, and I would put them up against any similar scenes from mainstream big-budget historical epics.

There are critiques that can be leveled against the movie. The early film spends a lot of time on Washington's motives, the struggles of his social life, and his seemingly ill-fated romance. But all of that ends on a dour note, and pretty much stops dead in its tracks as Washington leaves for the Braddock Expedition. (With good reason, it seems like he abandoned all hope for himself at that stage) And the movie never went back to deal with those issues, as the Braddock Expedition was the climax of the movie, and the wrap-up was all focused on how that affected his career as an officer and leader. This is fully justified, and feels satisfactory in the moment, but may be seen as a flaw upon reflection.

But, again, that is irrelevant. I will buy this on DVD for the military scenes! And those scenes will make great viewing as isolated YouTube clips.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 04, 2026 10:18 PM (3v7ra)

191 Windows on the house are shaking.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 10:44 PM (jU8k8)

192 >>> 83 I don't think I've ever seen any 21st century movies where foreigners came to the U.S.A and appreciate it.


Brooklyn was good! Irish lass chooses the young upstart American plumber with a dream over the fancy rich Irish guy with a sterile, settled life.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 11:00 PM (gWBY1)

193 (Odyssey)
If the trailer's any indication the movie is going to have some of the cringiest dialog ever.
Posted by: Tuna
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The bit of trailer I saw is great.
"Elliot" Page being skewered.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 04, 2026 11:29 PM (iaABv)

194 I may never see any of these movies but I really enjoy your descriptions.

Posted by: epador at July 05, 2026 10:27 AM (SUnRd)

195 Thanks, Epador.

Bender, that sounds interesting. I'm putting together a word processor that has fiction-writing tools. (All the things you'd probably expect, plus the ability to swap scenes out, back-and-forth. Because I find that's the big thing for me.)

Notsothoreau, the problem with fiction is that it has to make sense and not rely too heavily on coincidence or luck. Life has no such constraints.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 05, 2026 01:44 PM (K40fF)

Hobby Thread - July 4, 2026 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is feeling explosive. It spun and spun and landed on a fireworks theme for this Hobby Thread.

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Fireworks are not exclusively an American thing. Other countries certainly have fireworks traditions, but seems like America embraces fireworks as an integral part of its culture. Fireworks are 'murica.

It is because we reject the paternalistic instinct to abstain from anything that might involve risk? Does the feint whiff of danger make fireworks irresistible? Is it because Americans have space to blow things up? Is it because we like fire and explosions? Is it because we have a fascination with flight and space, so we like sending things into the air to put on a show? Is it because fireworks are democratized in a sense - accessible to individual people and not restricted to "official" displays?

Dunno. The emergency rooms of the nation can testify that fireworks present peril for the unwary. Not all fireworks, however, inherently flirt with disaster. Sparklers? Snakes? Fun for the whole family!

What fireworks are your favorites? Have you stocked up for the holiday? Have you ever made your own? What large scale displays are memorable? Do you have childhood memories of fireworks?

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Firework delivery vehicle:

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Not those fireworks? Oh well... Never mind (but I've been waiting to use the photo).

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What are you hobbying?

The thread is not limited to to the theme. Anything (legal) you are hobbying is welcome. Even if the theme does not speak to you, you might learn something. If not, find something else or offer something else relating to hobbying. If all of that fails, just check in and say hello.

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring churches). Pants are optional. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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Are you wise in the ways of Zambelli?

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Time for science:

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Flying a drone through a fireworks show:

Don't try this at home.

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How does a synchronized fireworks show come together? Glad you asked.

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There are many videos across the interweb of stupid people doing stupid things with fireworks. Those will not be appearing in this content. But... was anyone in San Diego in 2012 when all the fireworks were set off within 15 seconds?



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Sydney's New Year's fireworks show on the bridge is one of the biggest each year:

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Check out the Nagaoka Fireworks festival in Japan each August:

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Drone shows are a related but separate concept. I was going to leave them out, but "explosive laden quadcopter" earned a spot in the content.

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The scale modelers of the group that make race cars should love this:

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Did some of the flyover activity yesterday pass low and slow above TRex HQ? Yes. Yes it did. It did not suck.

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an flight simulator theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comments from last week:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Reminder: if you put links in the comments, use a URL shortener and describe what you're linking to. Failing to do either or both makes you barrel-eligible. Don't make people click to find out what you're linking.

Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 Nice pics!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 05:34 PM (hRGfZ)

2 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)

3 The San Diego 2012 episode is perfect in my book. Lots of wow factor and super respectful of everyone’s time. This should be a genre of firework shows. I would frequent these.

Posted by: HappyFun at July 04, 2026 05:36 PM (CoQfd)

4 When I lived in New Mexico I would go buy literally hundreds of dollars worth of fireworks every year. My favorite being, of course, mortars that were like miniatures of the professional aerial displays.

Can't do that here in AZ. Neighbors get pissy when you set the town on fire.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 04, 2026 05:39 PM (+9wcF)

5 Ditto the pics.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AMERICA!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 05:40 PM (jU8k8)

6 Afternoon, hobbyists,

As I mentioned earlier today, fireworks fill me with zero interest. They seem dangerously without safeguards. A gun's explosive power is contained within metal. A firework? *Cardboard* around the powder? Uh, Homie don't play dat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 05:42 PM (wzUl9)

7 The older I get the shorter I want the fireworks display to be.

Posted by: polynikes at July 04, 2026 05:43 PM (/WQyy)

8 Over the past week, I went to Lake Arrowhead State Park, Cleburne State Park, and Dinosaur Valley State Park. So now I have 16 of 88 (?) and the stamps get more numerous. As do the fridge magnets.

Looking at how to make lemonade out of lemons by hitting five more this week.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 05:45 PM (4g5V+)

9 Watching
https://freedom250.org/celebration/ etc

It's supposed to be tall ships in NY harbor. Well, it isn't. It's a view of the mall with people talking in the background.

It shouldn't be so difficult to find events. The Mt. Rushmore presentation was good. Finding things today is a chore.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 05:45 PM (jU8k8)

10 If you want you can see my painting of Mt Rushmore I did with just a palette knife in my nic.

Posted by: polynikes at July 04, 2026 05:45 PM (/WQyy)

11 Squeeze a safe and sane "Picolo Pete" 3/4 down with pliers, it will whistle and explode.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 05:45 PM (Kt19C)

12 I am a sucker for fireworks displays on the right occasions. The Fourth of July being a perfect one. It’s going to make going to work tonight suck, though.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 05:46 PM (4g5V+)

13 Perhaps one of the most impressive fireworks displays I have seen was at Victoria Harbor in Hong Kong for Christmas Day. This back in 2005.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 05:47 PM (4g5V+)

14 Very impressive photography, TRex. That C17....

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 05:50 PM (nbLIj)

15 JTB, if you're here, and for any other pipe smoking enthusiasts: I have created what I call the "Denmark Express"! The tobacco mix is 70% Erik Stokkebye Morning Blend, a mild burley/Virginia, and about 30% Peter Stokkebye PS 41 Cube-Cut tobacco, ditto. Both are Danish tobaccos. The mix went into a Danish pipe, the Georg Jensen small straight sandblast billiard with four gold rings on the shank; I call it the "captain's pipe."

Result: Cool smoking for over half an hour, not any more relights needed than with any other blend. A nice toasty aroma, too.

I don't often match pipe country with tobacco country. Yes, Peterson pipes sometimes get a Peterson tobacco, and a German tobacco in a German pipe, but it's rare. I have several French-made pipes -- but I don't know if there are any French-made pipe tobaccos. Are there?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 05:50 PM (wzUl9)

16 RV Park not far from country place would do an elaborate Independence Day display. Always looked forward to it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 05:52 PM (jU8k8)

17 Nice work polynikes.

Posted by: Kratwurst at July 04, 2026 05:52 PM (9gKa/)

18 Hmmmm.....awful strange coinky-dink that the wheel landed on 'fireworks' on the Fourth of July...are you sure somebody didn't reach out with his stubby little 'arm' and put his 'thumb' on the wheel?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 05:53 PM (QGaXH)

19 14 Very impressive photography, TRex. That C17....
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 05:50 PM (nbLIj)

I love that plane. Flew in the many a time.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 05:54 PM (4g5V+)

20
What are you hobbying?

Been making a laptop shelf with a cooling fan that can hold both of my 17" laptops. Forced AI to design it using typed prompts to create the design file. Gonna finish the raw pieces tomorrow, and use the 40w laser to cut the pieces out next week while I'm recovering from shoulder surgery.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 04, 2026 05:56 PM (QVmho)

21 Are those F-22s in first photo?

Posted by: polynikes at July 04, 2026 05:58 PM (/WQyy)

22 Well done on the AC pix, TRex! ‘Murica!

Posted by: RI Red at July 04, 2026 05:58 PM (WcJqs)

23 >>Been making a laptop shelf with a cooling fan that can hold both of my 17" laptops.
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Looks at Styrofoam enclosure hanging by a wire screwed into back of monitor... oh, well, little Beelink is cool.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 06:00 PM (jU8k8)

24 Some 50 years ago, I was flying a Huey back to Ft. Campbell, KY at night. Maybe 5000 feet altitude. I remember looking down on dozens of small town fireworks.
‘Murica!

Posted by: RI Red at July 04, 2026 06:02 PM (WcJqs)

25 Well that was special. B2, B1 and B52 in formation over our house. What a sound.

Posted by: TRex - bombadier dino at July 04, 2026 06:02 PM (IQ6Gq)

26 What are you hobbying?

At the moment, nothing. Waiting on the old house to sell so I can stop paying that mortgage and start dumping money into a new electronics bench, and maybe a 3D printer.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 04, 2026 06:03 PM (+9wcF)

27 Trying to decide to go out for fireworks or stay home

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 06:03 PM (Ia/+0)

28 Hey Blanco!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 06:04 PM (lfni7)

29 21 Are those F-22s in first photo?

Posted by: polynikes at July 04, 2026 05:58 PM
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Yessir.

Posted by: TRex - thrust vector dino at July 04, 2026 06:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

30 That B2 is the shit. The first time Trump was president he had that party in DC and there were flyovers happening around the east coast. I was at a car show and a B2 with other planes flew directly over us and really low. Damn what a sight that was. I'm not sure what was flanking, maybe f35s or f22s maybe. Total bad ass.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 06:05 PM (3kxek)

31 You do have some great memories and stories RI Red....your words paint a very vivid picture....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 06:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

32 8 Looking at how to make lemonade out of lemons by hitting five more this week.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 05:45 PM (4g5V+)

Dinosaur Valley looks interesting - might put that on the itinerary for a fall or spring road trip. Looks too hot in summer.

What is the lemon you are trying to make lemonade out of?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:05 PM (QGaXH)

33 The B series are doing a flyover. The exhaust of the '52 looks like 8 Mack trucks climbing a hill. Choke on it watermelons.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 06:06 PM (jU8k8)

34 I finished assembling and initial testing of a 20/40 meter dipole antenna. I'm going to deploy it a few times in the field before doing any final trimming, but it should work well enough as is especially with a tuner.

Posted by: PabloD at July 04, 2026 06:06 PM (byoW7)

35 Got a shot earlier today of a Spooky AC-130. Didn't realize they let those out in the day time. Glad never to be downrange of one.

Posted by: TRex - spooky dino at July 04, 2026 06:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

36 Been cleaning my lead pile. Virtually all comes from lead drywall. A lead sheet is glued under high pressure to a sheet of drywall. The paper residue comes off, the mastic better than 1/3.
I could have over 500 pounds

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 06:06 PM (Ia/+0)

37 Getting ready to spend a week in Yosemite Valley with a bunch of in-laws, out-laws, scofflaws and other ilk starting Friday.

Wish me luck, patience and fortitude.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:08 PM (QGaXH)

38 I watched the tall ships sail up the Hudson to the George Washington Bridge...pretty damned impressive!

And...the photo of the B-1 is great. That plane is just awesome.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 04, 2026 06:08 PM (PLxDd)

39 Easiest way to clean it 100% is make lead ingots, might have 200 pounds of my pile alresdy

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 06:08 PM (Ia/+0)

40 One of my unofficial sons earned a license to shoot off professional fireworks. His neighbors are very tolerant. I've never been over to his place for the show but my real kids spend every Fourth there.

As an aside, the same kid has managed to turn his back yard into an officially recognized wildlife area. He claims he just watched YouTube for instructions.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 04, 2026 06:09 PM (DK5Sh)

41 What is the lemon you are trying to make lemonade out of?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:05 PM (QGaXH)

Eh, got a car in the shop. Nothing serious, but nothing I wanted to risk driving through The Big Empty either. Once I get it back, I’m taking my time getting back home.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 06:10 PM (4g5V+)

42 The little tanks that are powered by the fuse are the best. Pew!

Posted by: H at July 04, 2026 06:10 PM (15qXl)

43 Got a shot earlier today of a Spooky AC-130. Didn't realize they let those out in the day time. Glad never to be downrange of one.

Posted by: TRex - spooky dino at July 04, 2026 06:06 PM (IQ6Gq

We lost six AC 130s in a Vietnam and one in Desert Storm.

We used them extensively in Afghanistan and Iraq with no losses. I find that pretty amazing.

Posted by: polynikes at July 04, 2026 06:11 PM (/WQyy)

44 39 Easiest way to clean it 100% is make lead ingots, might have 200 pounds of my pile alresdy

Posted by: Skip
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So, it's home. Great.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 06:11 PM (jU8k8)

45 Thr thing about flyovers is that far moe US planes, in spite of the system, work. Whereas all the assholes, well, you know.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 04, 2026 06:13 PM (YlWIZ)

46 Growing up in the Midwest meant that we had access to pretty good fireworks, though I never got my hands on any M-80s - which probably explains why I still have both hands. It's a miracle that I and my childhood friends still have two eyes apiece, what with all the bottle rocket fights.

Posted by: PabloD at July 04, 2026 06:13 PM (byoW7)

47 I worked with a guy whose hobby was fireworks. He would do one of the local Fourth of July shows. He also worked part-time doing the fireworks at Disney. We were worriers with similar senses of humor. One time I told him 'let's face it, Bill, we're worriers not warriors....LOL!'

Died too soon of a stroke at age 56.

RIP Billy.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:16 PM (QGaXH)

48 One summer at the lake... a guy in the cabin next door was out on his patio, disassembling firecrackers to make *whatever* with the powder.

Meanwhile, my cousin and his 2 young boys were working on their own little project. You see, they'd been to a water park recently and wanted to build their own water balloon launcher, strung between 2 trees using a bucket and strips of rubber (cut from an innertube).

You see where this is going, yes? LOL

***SPLASH!!!***

Dude with the firecrackers was caught *completely* off-guard and oh, boy did he use some language like I'd not heard before! Probably messed his pants too!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 06:17 PM (rdVOm)

49 Couple weeks is Historicon in Lancaster, can't wait

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 06:17 PM (Ia/+0)

50 Nice work poly. I cannot say as I have ever painted anything patritoic.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 06:18 PM (vE0+H)

51

To stay safe, the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA) recommends maintaining a distance of at least 500 feet from any fireworks launch site.

And wear your mask.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2026 06:18 PM (Cqx++)

52 41 Eh, got a car in the shop. Nothing serious, but nothing I wanted to risk driving through The Big Empty either. Once I get it back, I’m taking my time getting back home.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 06:10 PM (4g5V+)


The Big Empty ?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:19 PM (QGaXH)

53 And wear your mask.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Helmet too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 06:19 PM (jU8k8)

54 Resurrected my 1979 Sony turntable and amp combo earlier this week. Picked up a stereo cabinet a neighbor was selling. Came with a pair of 40" tall Sony speakers, which was an upgrade from my bookshelf speakers.

Had to repair one of the speaker wires, so I busted out the solder kit and gave Little a brief demo of proper(ish) home electronics repair. (As I type, there is a small boil from an errant ball of solder that landed on my knuckle during the process).

Anyway, turntable and amp got connected. Also added my Teac dual cassette deck, because I still have cassettes in the collection. The speakers performed admirably. Little found and put on Meet the Beatles, which was the first album my late sister ever bought. Found the room getting dusty as side A played through...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 06:20 PM (nbLIj)

55 Used to know a guy lived in benton ca. Fire depth would leave him alone but stand by. Dedicated chemical grinding vessels.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 06:22 PM (Kt19C)

56 54 Little found and put on Meet the Beatles, which was the first album my late sister ever bought. Found the room getting dusty as side A played through...

That stuff will do it to ya.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:22 PM (QGaXH)

57 "Little found and put on Meet the Beatles, which was the first album my late sister ever bought. "

My sisters and I wore that album out. It was a big deal.

Posted by: Tuna at July 04, 2026 06:25 PM (lJ0H4)

58 To stay safe, the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA) recommends maintaining a distance of at least 500 feet from any fireworks launch site.

And wear your mask.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2026 06:18 PM (Cqx++)
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Pfft.
Whatevers.

Posted by: 13 Bravo - King of Battle at July 04, 2026 06:26 PM (lfni7)

59 Helmet too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 06:19 PM (jU8k
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Praise God that I never have to wear one ever again.

Posted by: 13 Bravo - King of Battle at July 04, 2026 06:27 PM (lfni7)

60 Off gunbunny sock.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 06:28 PM (lfni7)

61 I still remember the feel of fireworks going off when I was little. They shot them over the harbor or off the beach and when they exploded I could feel the force on my chest, like a push of the air. Whether it was the dense night air over the Atlantic, my smaller size, or proximity, I haven't felt that as an adult.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 06:28 PM (yTvNw)

62 When I was a kid (about 29 years ago), I put a cherry bomb in my mother's mop bucket (full of water), because I heard that the fuse would burn under water. It did, and it turned that mop bucket into a piece of scrap. I took it far away and hid it. Denied knowing where the bucket was. I am lucky my parents didn't kill me.

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at July 04, 2026 06:29 PM (/enuJ)

63 Miss SMH! So very good to "see" you. Have you completed the move yet?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 04, 2026 06:29 PM (+9wcF)

64 July 4th 1976 #1 on billboard was a Silly Little Love Songs.

#1 now is Choosin Texas by Ella Langley

2026 wins !!

Posted by: polynikes at July 04, 2026 06:30 PM (/WQyy)

65
gunbunny, cute.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others at July 04, 2026 06:30 PM (jU8k8)

66 TRex, Thanks for the videos on how fireworks are developed for various effects. I've long wondered how that was done.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 06:31 PM (yTvNw)

67 Today marks one month in the new digs, Blanco.
Spent the afternoon at a creek nearby, and will head into town to watch the fireworks.

God bless Missouri.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 06:31 PM (lfni7)

68 I made my fireworks run two years ago to West Virginia. Actually, it was a visit to Gettysburg, but the W. Virginia line is just under 50 miles away, and it was a couple weeks before the 4th....so it would have been rude not to make a quick trip down to stock up.

W. Virginia, basically, has no restrictions....just an age limit. So, I'm sitting on about 100 Reloadable Aerial Mortars, in addition to the more mundane and kid friendly stuff. I figure I put salt licks out for the deer, and they eat my apples without permission, so I'm owed a little leniency. I have no close neighbors to my residence, I have just over 15 acres of mowed lawn without fire hazards, so I'm not worried about fires....just my fingers. BTW, I see a lot of dogs have problems with the loud bangs. Mine, I have to keep tied up so he doesn't try to chase them when they go up. He's a free spirit. Incidentally, his name is Orson (which I stole for my screen name) and he's a black lab.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 06:33 PM (dIske)

69 Jon Michael Raasch
@JMRaasch
Our planes are so sick my God.
F-35 hovering over the National Mall.

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Secular Talk (KyleKulinskiShow@bsky.social)
@KyleKulinski
Can’t have healthcare or childcare but we h0ave hovering planes of death. America is a fail state.

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"Hovering planes of death"? America, F*ck Yeah!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 06:37 PM (ndZc7)

70 66 TRex, Thanks for the videos on how fireworks are developed for various effects. I've long wondered how that was done.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 06:31 PM
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You're welcome. Seems like half the hobby thread video content is de-mystifying how things are done or made. I'm continually fascinated.

Posted by: TRex - firework technician dino at July 04, 2026 06:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

71 68 ....Incidentally, his name is Orson (which I stole for my screen name) and he's a black lab.
Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 06:33 PM (dIske)

Sounds like a lucky dog with 15 acres to call his own...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:37 PM (QGaXH)

72 [Deleted for politics content. Please stick to hobbying. -TRex]

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 04, 2026 06:38 PM (kBcTc)

73 If you want you can see my painting of Mt Rushmore I did with just a palette knife in my nic.

Wow, polynikes, that's damn good! I could never do squat with a palette knife; I'm envious. Too impressionist for my nit-picky nature and obsessive desire for details, I guess.

Posted by: tankascribe at July 04, 2026 06:38 PM (NtoJk)

74 Sounds like a lucky dog with 15 acres to call his own...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:37 PM (QGaXH)
___________________________

I get the same look from him every morning. "Dude...those rabbits aren't going to harrass themselves. Let's go."

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 06:39 PM (dIske)

75 "Hovering planes of death"
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Is this supposed to be an insult?

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 06:39 PM (lfni7)

76 Secular Talk (KyleKulinskiShow@bsky.social)
@KyleKulinski
Can’t have healthcare or childcare but we h0ave hovering planes of death. America is a fail state.
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*?*

I thought that Obamacare fixed that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 06:40 PM (XeU6L)

77 Cripes! The Italicans have invaded... on the fourth!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 06:41 PM (XeU6L)

78 9 Jon Michael Raasch
@JMRaasch
Our planes are so sick my God.
F-35 hovering over the National Mall.

Must have been a USMC VTOL F-35 Aircraft if it was hovering. I think I saw a F-35 also do a Tail walk above the Capitol...

Massive Hard On ................

Posted by: Jackson K. at July 04, 2026 06:41 PM (JDSUL)

79 [Deleted for politics content. Please stick to hobbying. - TRex]

Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2026 06:41 PM (YwEeS)

80 Getting ready to spend a week in Yosemite Valley with a bunch of in-laws, out-laws, scofflaws and other ilk starting Friday.
Wish me luck, patience and fortitude.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan


Gonna be hot in the valley this upcoming week (not to mention crowded) so you're gonna need all the patience and fortitude you can bring to bear. But good luck and try not to murder anyone while you're there!

Posted by: tankascribe at July 04, 2026 06:42 PM (NtoJk)

81 Secular Talk (KyleKulinskiShow@bsky.social)
@KyleKulinski
Can’t have healthcare or childcare but we h0ave hovering planes of death. America is a fail state.


America is a powerful state. You on the other hand douchebag are a failed sperm cell.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 06:42 PM (3kxek)

82 I am working up a project to sew some caps. Most of the caps I can buy are either really expensive, really cheaply made, or ball caps.
And I have plenty of ball caps.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 06:42 PM (rbvCR)

83 The Big Empty ?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:19 PM (QGaXH)

There ain’t a whole lot between The Metroplex and the Panhandle.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 04, 2026 06:43 PM (4g5V+)

84 Polynikes thats pretty good

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 06:43 PM (Ia/+0)

85 Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 06:17 PM (rdVOm)
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Everyone had a crazy friend in high school. My crazy friend used to use a toilet paper roll, some black powder with wax stops on both ends, and a standard wick he pulled off of those smoke bombs you can get at the hardware store for rodents.

Shockingly, the last time I saw him he had all his fingers.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 06:43 PM (dIske)

86 Looks like the fireworks in Babylon DC are going to have some competition from massive thunderstorms that are moving through.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 06:44 PM (ntk8v)

87 Meet the Beatles, which was the first album my late sister ever bought.

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The first album I ever bought was the Beatles second album cleverly entitled The Beatles Second Album.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 06:44 PM (ndZc7)

88 Zambelli Fireworks! They have a major storage area not far from my sisters farm in PA.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 06:45 PM (ntk8v)

89 Sorry about the OT I didn't realize it was the hobby thread( even though it's the title🫣

Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2026 06:48 PM (YwEeS)

90 Dear TRex, thank you for the Hobby Thread, and for putting in hard work on this bestest of holidays! I swear, it's never been a better time to be an American and hang out with all you lovely folks! Hats off to Ace!

Posted by: tankascribe at July 04, 2026 06:49 PM (NtoJk)

91
Zambelli? And Grucci? Have the Eyetalians cornered the pyrotechnics biz in these United States?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 06:50 PM (O0L8i)

92 Was it the Grucci's who had the devastating explosion that killed several members of the family?

Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2026 06:50 PM (YwEeS)

93 Black powder is dangerous shit in large amounts

Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2026 06:51 PM (YwEeS)

94
Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2026 06:50 PM (YwEeS)

__________

It was

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 06:52 PM (O0L8i)

95 Spent the afternoon at a creek nearby, and will head into town to watch the fireworks.

Now that sounds like a good day. Going over to a friends house to watch the fireworks in a bit. They live on a hill overlooking the park, need a pass to even get into the neighborhood.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 04, 2026 06:52 PM (+9wcF)

96 Black powder is dangerous shit in large amounts
Posted by: steevy

White powder is heavenly.
- Hunter Biden

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 06:53 PM (ndZc7)

97 Who has large amounts?
I made some black powder, seems to work fine and burns quickly. Won't in my musket and not sure why.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 06:54 PM (Ia/+0)

98 15 ... "I have created what I call the "Denmark Express"! The tobacco mix is 70% Erik Stokkebye Morning Blend, a mild burley/Virginia, and about 30% Peter Stokkebye PS 41 Cube-Cut tobacco"

Wolfus, That sounds like a nice combo. Haven't tried the Morning Blend but the Cube Cut is excellent. It's basically an American non-aromatic, no topping just burley and Virginia. The processing seems to meld the different leafs nicely. Curious what you think of Cube Cut by itself.

I never think to match tobacco and pipe from the same country. I'm not that organized. But I'm a big fan of Stokkebye 4th Generation pipes and the company's blends. Their flake blends are excellent, especially the Deluxe Navy Flake.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 06:54 PM (yTvNw)

99 Everyone had a crazy friend in high school. My crazy friend used to use a toilet paper roll, some black powder with wax stops on both ends, and a standard wick he pulled off of those smoke bombs you can get at the hardware store for rodents.

Shockingly, the last time I saw him he had all his fingers.
Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 06:43 PM (dIske)

My group were those crazy friends. We used to take coffee cans, fill them with gas, then punch a small hole in the plastic lid big enough for an m80 fuse to poke through. We put a few layers of plastic wrap over the can pushing it down enough to make an area for the m80. Pop the lid on, bury the can up to the lid, light the fuse, run like hell and enjoy the huge mushroom cloud. We started small with baby food jars and fire crackers, but they were lame.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 06:55 PM (3kxek)

100 We're back from the farm where we shot a bunch of guns and I got stung on the hand by a wasp. It swole up real good.

Posted by: fd at July 04, 2026 06:55 PM (MWfyi)

101 The European mind simply cannot comprehend a random citizen playing the national anthem with a semi automatic rifle in their backyard shooting range

https://tinyurl.com/2va2u2mu

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 06:55 PM (lfni7)

102 This is the start of Tour de Fleece. It's mainly spinning activities that go on during the Tour deFrance. Some Ravelry groups have give aways, and it involves progress reports on what you've done. It's not something I usually do but my You Tube feed is full of people that participate.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026 06:56 PM (bkuEU)

103 My hobby is building doll houses. I get that it's for old ladies but hear me out. I can decorate to my heart's content. Plus, I keep my brain active. I have about 25 of them now. Each one is my favorite.

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at July 04, 2026 06:57 PM (+QijZ)

104 We used to use spray paint cans as targets firing shotgun. Kawpo! Blue! Kapoor! Red!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 06:57 PM (ndZc7)

105 104 Put canvas behind it and instant modern art...

Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2026 06:58 PM (YwEeS)

106 I watched the tall ships sail up the Hudson to the George Washington Bridge...pretty damned impressive!"

So did I. In 1976.

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 06:59 PM (cGjQu)

107 74 Sounds like a lucky dog with 15 acres to call his own...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 06:37 PM (QGaXH)
___________________________

I get the same look from him every morning. "Dude...those rabbits aren't going to harrass themselves. Let's go."
Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 06:39 PM (dIske)

Ha! And where approximately is this slice of heaven?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 07:00 PM (QGaXH)

108 KyleKulinski
Can’t have healthcare or childcare but we h0ave hovering planes of death. America is a fail state."

Wait, there's no medical services in America? No schools? Amazing .

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 07:01 PM (cGjQu)

109 Oddly enough, some of the best fireworks displays I've seen were at the Washington Nationals Single A farm team stadium. They happened after a Saturday night home game. A solid thirty minutes of good fireworks. Nobody left those games early.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 07:02 PM (yTvNw)

110 Hovering Planes of Death is a killer name for a metal band.

Posted by: steevy at July 04, 2026 07:02 PM (YwEeS)

111 New York Post
@nypost
Paul Pelosi charged with hit-and-run in Napa County

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Before it was run and get hit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 07:03 PM (ndZc7)

112 Bottle rockets. We had bottle rocket wars with the fraternity acrosss Monroe Street. Had to drive to Ohio to get them. It became very scientific with foil lined boxes holding dozens of bottle rockets fused in sequence. Yikes.

The cops always came but no one answered the door.

Once, opponents tried to create a lighting implement using a roll of toilet paper doused in gasoline at the end of a broom handle. It slid off the handle and rolled into the gutter below their dormer window. On fire. LOL. No major damage.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 04, 2026 07:03 PM (S8cdb)

113 And my $135 electric spinning wheel is providing a lot of entertainment. I don't know why they call them electric spinning wheels as there are no wheels. This is injection molded with some 3D printed parts. I've never been interested in these but the designer is trying to make affordable spinning gear. He has even designed a cage to fit around the wheel, to prevent a cat from playing with it while being operated.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026 07:04 PM (bkuEU)

114 KyleKulinski
Can’t have healthcare or childcare but we h0ave hovering planes of death. America is a fail state."

Wait, there's no medical services in America? No schools? Amazing .
Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 07:01 PM (cGjQu)

Well to be fair, to anti American communist ball bags, military power, security, and freedom always takes a back seat to free shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 07:05 PM (3kxek)

115 Well to be fair, to anti American communist ball bags, military power, security, and freedom always takes a back seat to free shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 07:05 PM (3kxek)
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lol, yep.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 07:06 PM (lfni7)

116 KyleKulinski
Can’t have healthcare or childcare but we h0ave hovering planes of death. America is a fail state."



The replies to this are hilarious! Not much of a hobbyist unless golf and fishing are hobbies. I'll try to get some in my next days off.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 04, 2026 07:07 PM (ntk8v)

117 Missed you loads SMH seeing you around more now is like coming home.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 07:07 PM (vE0+H)

118 Ha! And where approximately is this slice of heaven?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 07:00 PM (QGaXH)
_______________________________

Let's just say a rural part of PA where the Township president doubles as one of the snow plow operators and frequently wears his MAGA hat to Township meetings just to piss people off. I might be related to that guy.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 07:08 PM (dIske)

119 87 Meet the Beatles, which was the first album my late sister ever bought.

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The first album I ever bought was the Beatles second album cleverly entitled The Beatles Second Album.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 06:44 PM (ndZc7)
They were certainly geniuses when it came to impressing teenage girls. Sir George Martin was the musical horsepower behind most of their stuff, even the drug-fueled stuff. I used to have all their albums.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 07:09 PM (LHPAg)

120 111 New York Post
@nypost
Paul Pelosi charged with hit-and-run in Napa County

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Before it was run and get hit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 07:03 PM (ndZc7)

___________________________

Was he HAMMERED???? *zing*

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 07:10 PM (dIske)

121 Pondered trying to make a rocket with my black powder

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 07:10 PM (Ia/+0)

122 103 My hobby is building doll houses. I get that it's for old ladies but hear me out. I can decorate to my heart's content. Plus, I keep my brain active. I have about 25 of them now. Each one is my favorite.
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at July 04, 2026 06:57 PM (+QijZ)

You should probably avoid the guy with the M-80 gas bombs....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 07:11 PM (QGaXH)

123 Thanks, Ellipsis. : )

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 07:11 PM (lfni7)

124 103 ... "My hobby is building doll houses. I get that it's for old ladies but hear me out. I can decorate to my heart's content. Plus, I keep my brain active. I have about 25 of them now. Each one is my favorite."

Working with miniatures whether doll houses, military figures like Skip does, or small exacting activity like fly tying or needlecraft has benefits. No age requirements.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 07:11 PM (yTvNw)

125 Of course when was a teenage bot I used Beatle tunes to impress teenage girls because I won't much to look at.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 07:11 PM (LHPAg)

126 >>I watched the tall ships sail up the Hudson to the George Washington Bridge...pretty damned impressive!

They used to come here. It was spectacular seeing those magnificent old ships come cruising up the bay.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 07:11 PM (viF8m)

127 I built a doll house 1"=1' scale, it can be quite challenging

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 07:16 PM (Ia/+0)

128 After one of my childhood cronies received a Gilbert chemistry set, we realized that we could homebrew black powder using drug store components ,and grinding our own charcoal.

Many toy soldiers and toys suffered terribly in consequence. Before it was over, we were making two varieties of electrically ignited devices, as well as submarine devices. All by the time that we were twelve years old.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 07:17 PM (XeU6L)

129 https://tinyurl.com/2nyhx6ce
Front view

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 07:18 PM (Ia/+0)

130 101 The European mind simply cannot comprehend a random citizen playing the national anthem with a semi automatic rifle in their backyard shooting range

https://tinyurl.com/2va2u2mu
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 06:55 PM (lfni7)
Ironically, they have great cheese.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 07:19 PM (LHPAg)

131 This week I made only 24 HF contacts, but worked BH8ABY Chengdu, DS5USH Daegu, and several new-to-me Japanese stations on 15m. I also heard, but did not work, stations in Singapore and Vietnam. Worked a couple of new-to-me US counties, bringing my confirmed county total to 1912.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:19 PM (Jr5Lq)

132 Terrific photography, TRex.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2026 07:21 PM (CHHv1)

133 This week I made only 24 HF contacts, but worked BH8ABY Chengdu, DS5USH Daegu, and several new-to-me Japanese stations on 15m. I also heard, but did not work, stations in Singapore and Vietnam. Worked a couple of new-to-me US counties, bringing my confirmed county total to 1912.
Posted by: gp
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[hangs head in shame]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, Inactive Know-code Extra at July 04, 2026 07:22 PM (XeU6L)

134 I suspect that a lot of those fly-over shots came from the PenguiinSix channel. I love that guy. He peddles all over DC for photo and video assignments on a bike.

Posted by: mrp at July 04, 2026 07:22 PM (rj6Yv)

135 Wolfus, That sounds like a nice combo. Haven't tried the Morning Blend but the Cube Cut is excellent. It's basically an American non-aromatic, no topping just burley and Virginia. The processing seems to meld the different leafs nicely. Curious what you think of Cube Cut by itself.

I never think to match tobacco and pipe from the same country. I'm not that organized. But I'm a big fan of Stokkebye 4th Generation pipes and the company's blends. Their flake blends are excellent, especially the Deluxe Navy Flake.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026


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JTB, I bought the Cube-Cut a while ago and tried it. It smelled wonderful. Maybe I wasn't packing it loosely or firmly enough, but it was a devil to keep lit. Mixed into the Morning Blend's ribbon cut -- I drop a pinch of one blend, then the other into the bowl, so it's kind of a layered approach -- it works fine. Or maybe the CC is drier now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 07:22 PM (wzUl9)

136 131 This week I made only 24 HF contacts, but worked BH8ABY Chengdu, DS5USH Daegu, and several new-to-me Japanese stations on 15m. I also heard, but did not work, stations in Singapore and Vietnam. Worked a couple of new-to-me US counties, bringing my confirmed county total to 1912.
Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:19 PM (Jr5Lq)

gp, your name will be carved on the next Patriotic Rock.
Wolverines!

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 07:23 PM (LHPAg)

137 MrTea would turn magnesium hot water electrodes into very, very fine threads and mix it with homemade black powder to make flash powder.
He and a friend were making smoke bombs in said friend's kitchen and it ignited on the stove. They took the pan outside but some of it boiled over the side and damaged the brand new linoleum.
First they made the shock-sensitive material. Then they made their own poppers with BBs. One of the BBs fell off the paper, hit the mixture and detonated the entire batch. The boys couldn't hear for 2 hours.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 04, 2026 07:24 PM (4VH0B)

138 "[hangs head in shame]"

I'm an FT8 operator, not phone or CW, which require much more skill than FT8, so feel free to discount my contacts somewhat, and alleviate some shame

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:25 PM (Jr5Lq)

139 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here. New theme next week.

Just saw the "old" robins' egg blue 747 used as AF1 cruise by. The new one made a pass over DC with a pair of B2s and a B1, but they were impolite enough to fly a few miles away from me.

You're welcome to stay here for a while but don't forget to join the Horde at Club ONT later. Happy Independence day everyone!

Posted by: TRex - altitude dino at July 04, 2026 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

140 131 This week I made only 24 HF contacts, but worked BH8ABY Chengdu, DS5USH Daegu, and several new-to-me Japanese stations on 15m. I also heard, but did not work, stations in Singapore and Vietnam. Worked a couple of new-to-me US counties, bringing my confirmed county total to 1912.
Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:19 PM (Jr5Lq)

Very cool! As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in. Charlotte (WBT) and Nashville (WLAC?) were common, as was WABC (NYC). KAAY (Little Rock) and KMOX (St Louis) on occasion too. I still have my log of stations, frequency, dates and time.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 07:29 PM (QGaXH)

141 "As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in."

I still do that! AM BCB DX listening is fun.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:29 PM (Jr5Lq)

142 Very cool! As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in. Charlotte (WBT) and Nashville (WLAC?) were common, as was WABC (NYC). KAAY (Little Rock) and KMOX (St Louis) on occasion too. I still have my log of stations, frequency, dates and time.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue
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WOWO, Ft Wayne?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 07:30 PM (XeU6L)

143 "As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in."

Last time I did that was about a month ago, mid-morning, with a plain loopstick radio, and logged 33 stations in less than half an hour. At night, it's easy to top that.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:31 PM (Jr5Lq)

144 Hotdogs, baked beans, and potato salad. Let’s get started.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 07:31 PM (LHPAg)

145 134 I suspect that a lot of those fly-over shots came from the PenguiinSix channel. I love that guy. He peddles all over DC for photo and video assignments on a bike.

Posted by: mrp at July 04, 2026 07:22 PM
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I can assure you that the shots in the content came from your dino host.

Posted by: TRex - avgeek snapper dino at July 04, 2026 07:32 PM (IQ6Gq)

146 "As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in."

I still do that! AM BCB DX listening is fun.
Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026


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As a college student, I did that, and heard the Eagles' "Take It Easy" and Johnny Nash's "Stir It Up" on Top 40 stations before my local WTIX was playing them.

I need to get a better quality AM/FM/Shortwave radio, maybe run an antenna out the window (?), and see what I can pick up at night.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 07:32 PM (wzUl9)

147 Very cool! As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in. Charlotte (WBT) and Nashville (WLAC?) were common, as was WABC (NYC). KAAY (Little Rock) and KMOX (St Louis) on occasion too. I still have my log of stations, frequency, dates and time.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue
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WOWO, Ft Wayne?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026


***
At night in 1977, coming back from my shift at KVPI in Ville Platte, LA, I could pick up stations in Beaumont and Lake Charles on FM, and KAAY on AM. I remember one cold night in November the DJ at KAAY playing "Shake Your Booty," and outro'ing it with, "Shake your booty, lest it freeze off."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 07:35 PM (wzUl9)

148 "KAAY (Little Rock)"

Beaker Street Underground! We used to listen to that late at night over fifty years ago.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:35 PM (Jr5Lq)

149 142 WOWO, Ft Wayne?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 07:30 PM (XeU6L)

Yes! And many more besides. Some interesting ones - WOAI San Antonio, K-something in Pennsylvania, both chartered before the W-K split was implemented.

Also XERF Ciudad Acuna Mexico and some Netherlands Antilles stations.

This was in SE Florida just north of Miami.

I'll be away next week but if I remember I'll share more in two weeks

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 07:37 PM (QGaXH)

150 Noooood.
Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 04, 2026 07:37 PM (Cr2ed)

151 Hey Ronster buddy, where are you?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 07:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

152 Thanks, Erebus!

Posted by: Nazdar at July 04, 2026 07:40 PM (NcvvS)

153 Well, well, well. You already know how I feel about movies.

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 07:40 PM (Wr7co)

154 140 ... :Very cool! As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in. Charlotte (WBT) and Nashville (WLAC?) were common, as was WABC (NYC). KAAY (Little Rock) and KMOX (St Louis) on occasion too. I still have my log of stations, frequency, "

Haven't done AM DXing for a while. Best time is night during the winter months. It can backfire on you. One time I got a nasty weather report. Turns out it was from a station in Ohio 600 miles west.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 07:42 PM (yTvNw)

155 I used to take my girl friend to movies when in high school. I hated them all.

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 07:44 PM (Wr7co)

156 Tom Bolack, a former lt. governor and governor of NM, died in 1998 and was cremated. On Independence Day 1999, his son Tommy had his first annual personal fireworks display from the bluffs above the San Juan River. Some of the shells he had built and fired that night scattered Tom Bolack's ashes over his ranch below the bluffs.

Posted by: huerfano at July 04, 2026 07:46 PM (VJX5o)

157 Haven't done AM DXing for a while. Best time is night during the winter months. It can backfire on you. One time I got a nasty weather report. Turns out it was from a station in Ohio 600 miles west.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 07:42 PM (yTvNw)

Ever bring in KUMM? College station out of Minnesota..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 07:48 PM (nbLIj)

158 Well, well, well. You already know how I feel about movies.
Posted by: Ronster
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Yes, but we presume you are in favor of the traditional post HT party, aka the pre Club ONT party. Pull up a chair, what'll you have to drink?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

159 I used to listen to KOMA to put myself to sleep.

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 07:50 PM (Wr7co)

160 Oh, very much in favor. I'll have a margarita.

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 07:52 PM (Wr7co)

161 Very festive...coming right up!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 07:56 PM (IQ6Gq)

162 We just can't make a big mess or JQ will not be happy with us, and we don't want that. Here is an assortment of appetizers, too. They'll never miss them....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 07:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

163 I used to listen to KOMA to put myself to sleep.
Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 07:50 PM (Wr7co)

KUMM had a famous promo tag back in the 70's - 80's:

"Don't touch that dial, you got KUMM on it!"

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 07:59 PM (nbLIj)

164 Hey Joe, sorry I missed you there...you want a beverage or some appetizers, too?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

165 Woooh, it's toasty outside! Had to go across town to wet down a dry yard, now back home to continue watering my own...

Starting to hear booms in town. Praying neither house gets burned down tonight-- it's been so dry and now also windy.

Hubby didn't recognize me today, so that's just the crap icing on the poop cake.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:00 PM (rdVOm)

166 I agree about not upsetting JQ. She is a nice lady (most of the time).

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 08:05 PM (Wr7co)

167 Party on, you all! I don't care if you mess things up... Heck, I *encourage you* to EAT THE LAST ONE of whatever, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:06 PM (rdVOm)

168 Ah JQ, I'm so sorry to hear about your day. I know exactly how that feels. Have a seat and let me wait on you for a change...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

169 Thanks, Grateful... I'd like a Long Island Iced Tea, please. Not doing any more driving today!

Yeah, it was strange when I saw hubby today, said hello and kissed him-- he recoiled slightly and asked "Who are you?" Gutted me.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:11 PM (rdVOm)

170 That is gutting...I feel so bad for you. It's a truly lousy disease on so many levels....here is your Long Island Iced Tea, and here is a plate of appetizers....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

171 JQ, what is your hubby going through that he didn't recognize you?

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 08:14 PM (Wr7co)

172 Thank you again, Grateful.

Ugh. I just can't even...

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:16 PM (rdVOm)

173 Ronster, JQ's husband has dementia and is an assisted living facility

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

174 Ronster, he has dementia, due to liver disease.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:17 PM (rdVOm)

175 He is in a skilled nursing facility-- his needs are beyond assisted living.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:18 PM (rdVOm)

176 My bad, sorry I got that wrong....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

177 JQ, I am sorry. That is sad.

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2026 08:19 PM (Wr7co)

178 165 Hubby didn't recognize me today, so that's just the crap icing on the poop cake.
Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:00 PM (rdVOm)

So sorry to read this JQ. Hope there are better days still to make up for the tough ones.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 08:20 PM (QGaXH)

179 I wouldn't say no to a beer if somebody is serving....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 08:22 PM (QGaXH)

180 Coming right up sir....bottle or glass? And would you like some appetizers?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

181 It's possible that he will recognize me tomorrow-- his delusions come & go-- but this was the first time he acted like I'm a total stranger. Knew the day would eventually come, but it's still a shocker.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:23 PM (rdVOm)

182 The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

Pina colada, please..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 08:23 PM (nbLIj)

183 180 Coming right up sir....bottle or glass? And would you like some appetizers?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

Thank you Grateful. Bottle is fine.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 08:26 PM (QGaXH)

184 Evening, TRex, and Hobby Horde. I will hang out here, because not really into movies.

Hobby-related, anyway: I like wrenching on cars, especially Studebakers, and I have a friend's '63 Lark VI in the yard right now. Poor thing lost oil pressure, and a rod is knocking. This right after a $6000 rebuild of the engine (not by me, fortunately). Got the accessories stripped off the engine, and am mostly ready to pull it. Where am I going to put it? Doh! On an engine stand, of course. My sturdy 4-wheel engine stand is occupied, so I have the old 3-wheeled one, but it is tippy, and a six-cylinder engine makes it more so. What to do? Bingo! I found an old riding mower deck, put the rear axle back in it, and with a little "massaging" of the metal I was able to bolt the engine stand securely to it using U-bolts. It is solid. Bad news? One of the front tires is shot, and I have zero 5" turf tires.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 08:27 PM (1z8ji)

185 Can't do that here in AZ. Neighbors get pissy when you set the town on fire.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 04, 2026 05:39 PM (+9wcF)

I have some mortars and rockets bought in NM last year. Maybe use them for New Years eve.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 08:29 PM (1z8ji)

186 And one Pina Colada for JK...appetizers?

JQ, when an aunt who was like a mother to me had no idea who I was I was absolutely stunned into silence (which never happens), felt like someone kicked me in the gut. The worst part was there was nothing I could do...
Of course when a great aunt went down the dementia road she thought I was my grandmother (her sister) and I leaned all types of things!!1

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:29 PM (IQ6Gq)

187 AOP, you want a beer while you hang out?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

188 One of the front tires is shot, and I have zero 5" turf tires.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

But you *do* have a pair of six-ers, right? Swap them both?

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:31 PM (rdVOm)

189 184 What to do? Bingo! I found an old riding mower deck, put the rear axle back in it, and with a little "massaging" of the metal I was able to bolt the engine stand securely to it using U-bolts. It is solid.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 08:27 PM
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I love this. Garage bodging at its best!

Posted by: TRex - spark plug dino at July 04, 2026 08:32 PM (IQ6Gq)

190 A gun's explosive power is contained within metal. A firework? *Cardboard* around the powder? Uh, Homie don't play dat.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 05:42 PM (wzUl9)

Cardboard is safer. When it goes bang! You get showered in confetti. If metal breaks, it becomes shrapnel. Or the bullet becomes a deadly projectile.

I have had firecrackers explode in my hand. It smarts, like hitting your fingers with a hammer. But ten minutes later, fingers are OK.

Really large fireworks could injure by concussion, but more likely by burns. Use common sense, and they are safe enough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 08:33 PM (1z8ji)

191 Grateful, thanks for your story! I've read that dementia can sort of send a person back in time like that. Who knows who hubby was "seeing" or maybe I just don't look like anyone else from his past. :shrug:

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:34 PM (rdVOm)

192 Been cleaning my lead pile. Virtually all comes from lead drywall. A lead sheet is glued under high pressure to a sheet of drywall. The paper residue comes off, the mastic better than 1/3.
I could have over 500 pounds
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 06:06 PM (Ia/+0)

Lead drywall is for sound deadening, right? I remember lining engine spaces on power yachts with sheet lead.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 08:38 PM (1z8ji)

193 JQ, it's a completely irrational mystery. And a very sad one at that. Sorry you have to walk that path, we send thoughts and prayers your way....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

194 Anyone want another drink or more food? Still plenty left before Club ONT opens....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:40 PM (IQ6Gq)

195 One more Iced Tea, please, and that should do it-- my nerves are calming nicely.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:43 PM (rdVOm)

196 Here you are my dear, and let's freshen that coaster for you too.....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

197 "Freshen that coaster" haha, back in the day we'd say "let me change your diaper" and put a fresh napkin down.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:45 PM (rdVOm)

198 Ah, Club ONT invested is some fine cardboard coasters, from back when Doggo was still around...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

199 I'm looking forward to tonight's Club ONT! Don't want to be *too snockered* for it!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:47 PM (rdVOm)

200 Just don't tell anyone. I found them in a closet and moved them so we have them for the pre Club ONT party!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:48 PM (IQ6Gq)

201 I know nuthzink!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:50 PM (rdVOm)

202 "As a boy in Florida I would stay up late at night with a simple AM radio seeing what I could pull in."

I still do that! AM BCB DX listening is fun.
Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 07:29 PM (Jr5Lq)

As a kid, I had a fantastic old tube radio. Had a slide-rule dial on a drum that rotated to give you 4 bands. And it was dead-nuts one, too. AM band had graduations every 10kc, which is the channel spacing, and by golly, it would pick up a station at every tick mark on that dial. In Vancouver, BC, I could get WWL in New Orleans nearly every night.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 08:56 PM (1z8ji)

203 AOP, you want a beer while you hang out?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 08:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

I just finished a Caesar. And I am going to have another one. Then make a pot of spaghetti for dinner.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:01 PM (1z8ji)

204 But you *do* have a pair of six-ers, right? Swap them both?
Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 08:31 PM (rdVOm)

I do, but the bore size of the hubs does not match the spindle size of the power deck. Called my friend, the guy who owns the Lark. He has a bunch of mower parts. He will call me back if he finds one. Otherwise, a trip to Princess Auto tomorrow for a Yang Poon tire.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:05 PM (1z8ji)

205 Yang Poon does have its uses, LOL!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:12 PM (rdVOm)

206 Yang Poon does have its uses, LOL!
Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:12 PM (rdVOm)

I could probably get a good made-in-USA Carlisle tire from the tire store on Monday, but I don't know if a seldom-used hand-pushed contrivance needs a "good" tire.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:18 PM (1z8ji)

207 I could probably get a good made-in-USA Carlisle tire from the tire store on Monday, but I don't know if a seldom-used hand-pushed contrivance needs a "good" tire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Exactly. No sense in spending more than minimum to get the job done.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:19 PM (rdVOm)

208 >>No sense in spending more than minimum to get the job done.

I mean... for a *one time* job!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:22 PM (rdVOm)

209 Exactly. No sense in spending more than minimum to get the job done.
Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:19 PM (rdVOm)

For a lot of stuff, you really don't need a pneumatic tire to get the job done. A stack of plywood semi circles glued up around the rim would work fine, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:25 PM (1z8ji)

210 >>A stack of plywood semi circles glued up around the rim would work fine, too.

For something a bit lighter-duty than an engine stand, I'd reckon. LOL.

My engine stand has teeny metal casters. PITA if there's any speck of dust on the floor!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:30 PM (rdVOm)

211 For something a bit lighter-duty than an engine stand, I'd reckon. LOL.

My engine stand has teeny metal casters. PITA if there's any speck of dust on the floor!
Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:30 PM (rdVOm)

Eh, a stack of glued-up plywood semicircles could carry 500 pounds, easy. Look at wagon wheels. They carried tons. The engine stand I used had three 3" iron casters. Rolled great on a smooth concrete floor. Not so good on rough turf.

I want a pneumatic tire on this puppy because I have an idea to make the old mower into a little run-about go-fer cart with a small gasoline engine to drive it. The rear axle is a transaxle, with a brake on it, and a forward-reverse gear selector. All I need is a small gas engine, say 3 HP, some V-belts and a centrifugal clutch. Got all that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:41 PM (1z8ji)

212 I had no idea the hobby thread continued on as an underground alternative to the movie thread....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 09:47 PM (QGaXH)

213 Home-style "junkyard wars" hahahaha, I love it!

Here's this pile of stuff-- make something useful out of it.

You're a gem, AOP!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:48 PM (rdVOm)

214 I had no idea the hobby thread continued on as an underground alternative to the movie thread....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Why not? No sense OTing another thread. It's not as if we'll be auto-banned for posting to one this recent.

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:49 PM (rdVOm)

215 I had no idea the hobby thread continued on as an underground alternative to the movie thread....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 09:47 PM (QGaXH)

Eh, why not? I, for one, rarely have anything useful to contribute to the movie thread, seeing as I have long given up going to movies, and the thread rarely touches on the classics I might have seen. So instead of being the dog in the manger on the movie thread, I will play here until the ONT rolls around.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:50 PM (1z8ji)

216 It's almost ONT time anyway. I'm getting butterflies....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 09:51 PM (QGaXH)

217 If I'm not mistaken, I made a little contribution to tonight's ONT. Butterflies, indeed!

Looking forward to seeing it, however imperfect it may be...

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:54 PM (rdVOm)

218 Well, time for me to cook up some grub for supper. Back for the ONT.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:54 PM (1z8ji)

219 I don't spend money on movies-- those "people" hate me, so why should I give them money?

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:55 PM (rdVOm)

220 Later, AOP!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:56 PM (rdVOm)

221
Very dry here but people are already shooting off fireworks. I love fireworks but dang i am praying there won't be any wildfires.



It is going to be a long night.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 09:56 PM (/QHx4)

222 215 Eh, why not? I, for one, rarely have anything useful to contribute to the movie thread, seeing as I have long given up going to movies, and the thread rarely touches on the classics I might have seen. So instead of being the dog in the manger on the movie thread, I will play here until the ONT rolls around.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 09:50 PM (1z8ji)

My wife accuses me, with good reason, of living in the past. I tell her I like the past. I know how it turns out.

Once, when I managed a small group of engineers, one of my early career engineers came into my office on Monday morning asking 'what did you do this weekend, watch old black and white movies with John Wayne in them?'

I thought to myself 'I'm too open with these people....'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 09:56 PM (QGaXH)

223
JQ,

I agree with you. Why fund people who want us dead.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 09:57 PM (/QHx4)

224 Very dry here but people are already shooting off fireworks. I love fireworks but dang i am praying there won't be any wildfires.
It is going to be a long night.
Posted by: four seasons

I hear ya! Same...

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:58 PM (rdVOm)

225 Been watering, moving sprinklers all afternoon, in anticipation of tonight's *warzone*

Happy birfday, USA!

Posted by: JQ at July 04, 2026 09:59 PM (rdVOm)

226 3 d ONT is up!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's Phone) at July 04, 2026 10:01 PM (QGaXH)

227 Not really an underground alternative, just a pre Club ONT party...have to get the place ready, might as well have some company and share stories, have drinks and eat the appetizers!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at July 04, 2026 10:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

228 We can see monster fireworks displays at 5 locstions from our deck, some as far away as 4 milesand some as close as 200 yards.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 10:26 PM (LHPAg)

229 203 i only ever knew them as bloody mary's until letterkenny had the episode about the recipe naming contest.
also an episode where stuart is grilling glenn on pyrotechnics, and glenn's depth of understanding finally silences the skid.

Posted by: cmeat at July 05, 2026 01:04 PM (R11M+)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, July 4

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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.


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Worried about the safety of your pets around fireworks? We have already had two nights of fireworks in the neighborhood and our remaining little dog seems to be okay as long as he is indoors. Not like some of our other dogs, the biggest of whom hid in the bathtub in the only room in the house without a window.

Any tips for helping our furry or feathered friends?

Here's another tip:

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Meet The PetMorons

We are missing photos for some PetMorons for which we have descriptions! Time to get some pets to pose! If I missed any, let me know.

On the home front, we had a tiny kitty show up and shoulder its way among the older kittens who were presented by their mama not long ago. I need to take photos of them, too!

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PetMoron Adjacent Animals
Encountered by Members of The Horde


A bit late for today's garden thread, but this afternoon my wife took a few photos of a robin in our driveway killing and eating a DeKay's brown snake! They're pretty small, so I guess it's not that different from a big earthworm?

Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar, June 20


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Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar, July 3, from Hawaii

I have not managed to acquire many quality photos of the islands diverse fauna yet, and some of my best involve, of all things, feral chickens, which freely roam the island, including the streets of Honolulu.


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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, June 27

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Been considering a pet spider since last week?

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Some are not as colorful as last week's specimens but can be distinctive.

And others remind us that the world is diverse.

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1 Here kitty kitties!

Posted by: Lady Calling Kitties at July 04, 2026 03:33 PM (3z4Sn)

2 Meow

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 04, 2026 03:34 PM (yEz+x)

3 Kit-TAY.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 03:34 PM (Kt19C)

4 Happy Caturday everyone
Watching on ABC many communities have pet parades, bring you pet out⁸

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 03:35 PM (qEb4U)

5 Lots of flags flying along the beach condos. Time to turn on The baseball game and take a walk!

Let’s go Mariners!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 04, 2026 03:35 PM (yEz+x)

6 No dogs? No boobs? What is this the art thread?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 03:41 PM (Kt19C)

7
Bath for Diana today. In a month, she's set to reappear on the show scene. So instead of a maintenance bath, she got a show bath; the difference is the shampoos and conditioner used.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 03:41 PM (O0L8i)

8 Afternoon, pet folken!

That leaf-mimicking spider is amazing. Not least because they named it for one of the houses of Hogwarts!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 03:48 PM (wzUl9)

9 Meow...

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at July 04, 2026 03:48 PM (sAmhv)

10 Build it and they will come……

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 03:53 PM (bEwGx)

11 Fireworks by you? We heard a few go off last night. Fortunately we'd already given Stirling, who is a big 'fraidy-cat about such things, some calming treats. They're pretty much just melatonin, not anything Rx or strong like that. One treat per pound of body weight. (He takes fourteen.)

We gave Dagny eight or nine, as she is much smaller. She also is less disturbed by noises or even by the vacuum cleaner. Both seemed pretty smoothed out; Stirling clambered into my lap, and Dagny curled up atop the couch behind my head. I guess we'll do it again tonight.

The funny thing: Stirling was a super-confident kitten, all the way from June '21, when I adopted him, to New Year's Eve that year. July 4 didn't bother him -- but suddenly the rattle of NYE fireworks sent him scurrying under the bed.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 03:56 PM (wzUl9)

12 I have noticed something odd with Patsy. With most cats, when they are kneading or "making biscuits", they just move their front feet. Not Patsy. She also moves her back leg on the opposite side. And she likes to nip you. She has adjusted to being an inside cat and is pretty good most days.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026 03:59 PM (bkuEU)

13 Feral chickens? Is there any other kind? I think if you asked any Rooster out there if they counsider themselves "domesticated" they'd tilt their heads, adjust their eyepatch, maybe even fiddle with the toothpick hanging out of their beaks while sizing you up.

That's your cue to run....run fast, hard, and don't look back.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 04:01 PM (dIske)

14 Good afternoon all,

I hope everyone is having a great Independence Day!

Small update on our cats.

https://tinyurl.com/dg65258

Posted by: Joyenz at July 04, 2026 04:07 PM (2F0/Y)

15 I have noticed something odd with Patsy. With most cats, when they are kneading or "making biscuits", they just move their front feet. Not Patsy. She also moves her back leg on the opposite side. And she likes to nip you. She has adjusted to being an inside cat and is pretty good most days.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026


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Stirling has recently gotten the idea that it would be fun to nip my arm after he finishes milk-treading it, and before he leaves my lap. I've been careful not to give him the opportunity. If he starts to, I scruff him like his mother and give him a stern, loud "NO!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:07 PM (wzUl9)

16 No fireworks here. It doesn't get dark, so we save them for New Years. But plenty of folks shooting, so there's that. Some of those folks could be us.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 04, 2026 04:12 PM (bl07w)

17 Some isolated fireworks are going off here, and Stirling is sitting, fairly relaxed, on the living room carpet. Maybe he's outgrowing this kitten fear of sharp noises that are nowhere near him and in fact are outside his safe territory.

The late Marie-Antoinette once feared the vacuum cleaner. A few years went by, and she no longer scurried away, but sat atop the dinette table and watched -- much as little Dagny does now. Either Marie concluded her humans would never let the growling roaring thing hurt her, or her hearing was falling off and she no longer was disturbed by the higher frequencies. Maybe both?

Big black Wolf dashed to hide in the bathroom the moment he saw me take out the machine. He'd realized I brought it into the bathroom, if necessary, last of the rooms. Stirling has concluded the same.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:13 PM (wzUl9)

18 Just finished trimming the pooch's claws with the dremmel-like trimmer contraption off Amazon. Distracted him with peanut butter. The dremmel works much quicker, but makes too much noise for him to abide.

The cat looked on in bemusement.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 04, 2026 04:14 PM (XvL8K)

19 Yay, cats!

Posted by: Howard Philips Lovecraft at July 04, 2026 04:15 PM (gKWVE)

20 We are off to Kasilof to go fishing and the dogs are going on vacation to the pet resort. I expect they prefer that, even though I'm sure they'd love to roll in fish guts and chase seagulls. If we took them with, there would be a whole lot of dog watching and very little fishing.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 04, 2026 04:15 PM (bl07w)

21 "8 Afternoon, pet folken!

That leaf-mimicking spider is amazing. Not least because they named it for one of the houses of Hogwarts!"
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Wow! I didn't notice! Adds a new dimension to the video when the guy picks the spider up.

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 04:16 PM (rdeQO)

22 Apparently, Mrs. JTB and I are easy to train.

We lost Precious the Bichon a year ago this week to a brain tumor. We only had her for two years, adopted her from the county rescue when she was 14. To this day we still expect her to be here. Have to stop from throwing popcorn on the floor for her treat. Think we have to get home from errands quickly to take her for a walk. Still kind of shuffle around the house so we don't step on her paw.

It's not sadness we feel since we made her last years as pleasant as possible. But we still have frequent "Oh yeah. We don't have to do that" moments.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 04:16 PM (yTvNw)

23 Spider on the ceiling:

https://youtu.be/BBiczdCEBMM?si=2hqcOzVOG5P0IRkx

This one never fails to make me laugh.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2026 04:19 PM (CHHv1)

24 That leaf-mimicking spider is amazing. Not least because they named it for one of the houses of Hogwarts!"
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Wow! I didn't notice! Adds a new dimension to the video when the guy picks the spider up.
Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026


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The spelling, with a "y" instead of an "i," is distinctive.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:20 PM (wzUl9)

25 Comment on the Huntsman spider molting thread: "If I see this happening in my room, I am handing over the house keys to him and moving to a new country"

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 04:23 PM (rdeQO)

26 It's not sadness we feel since we made her last years as pleasant as possible. But we still have frequent "Oh yeah. We don't have to do that" moments.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026


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It was strange indeed from March of '21 until Stirling's arrival in June, after Chekov the Ailing Codger Cat passed. Not only did I miss him and his "brother" Wolf, but it was odd not having to buy cat litter and police the box. I'd always had at least one cat and sometimes two in my life since 1983.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:24 PM (wzUl9)

27 I posted our official unofficial mascot with patriotic regalia on x, but failed to send it in. Shame on me, I am sorry.

Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2026 04:26 PM (pZEOD)

28 Comment on the Huntsman spider molting thread: "If I see this happening in my room, I am handing over the house keys to him and moving to a new country"
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My mother always advised me not to kill spiders in the house. "They kill other things you want around even less."

I expect she was not talking about black widows or brown recluse spiders, though. In western Canada, where she lived until age twelve, I don't know if they had those. Those species probably existed in Florida where she lived later, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:28 PM (wzUl9)

29 According to Wiki, neither the black widow nor the brown recluse spider lives in Canada. The black widow is found in FL, but the recluse is not.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:36 PM (wzUl9)

30 Our cats were never really affected by loud fireworks. Mischa would get a tad nervous, but would simply find her spot under our bed and go to sleep.

They were far more terrified of the hailstorms that pummeled us all too often.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 04, 2026 04:37 PM (0aYVJ)

31 I got my two kittehs as 8 week old kittens 8 years ago and had them posted to the pet thread shortly after. Time flies at ludicrous speed.

I'll send that photo and a current photo for next week's pet thread.

Posted by: polynikes at July 04, 2026 04:38 PM (/WQyy)

32 Ten years ago today we rescued tiny MadisonTheKitten from the middle of a busy intersection. She fit in my hand and both her back legs were broken. Today she’s MadisonTheCat and completey normal (for a cat), weighs 13 pounds, a strong black kat.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 04:39 PM (LHPAg)

33 There seems to be a nasty trend I'm seeing around here of animals being dumped. Recently a young dog, not much more than a pup, was rescued from a dumpster. Earlier this year, three kittens were rescued from *atop the Miss. River Bridge*! They must have been dumped out of a car (there is no pedestrian walkway or bike lane on that bridge) and had gone to hide under a grating, where bridge workers found them and fished them out.

How much of a slime mold must a person be to do that? The SPCA is not far away, wherever you are, and they don't charge you if you bring in a found animal. They do if you're surrendering an animal, but not if you've simply found it. Infuriating.

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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:48 PM (wzUl9)

34 (cont.) I know the SPCA doesn't charge for found animals, because in the summer of '19, I found a skinny and clearly ill black cat in my complex. He was not feral; he came to me for food. I got him into a carrier with some trouble and brought him to the SPCA station. He was FIV positive, so it was a good thing I didn't try to bring him around my two. They couldn't save him, though they tried for a month. At least he had that time in a comfortable, safe environment with people to tend to him.

They asked me to name him. "Skinny Puss" wouldn't help him get adopted. I chose "Paladin": He was a knight without armor in a savage land.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:50 PM (wzUl9)

35 28: My mother always advised me not to kill spiders in the house. "They kill other things you want around even less."

I expect she was not talking about black widows or brown recluse spiders, though. In western Canada, where she lived until age twelve, I don't know if they had those. Those species probably existed in Florida where she lived later, though.

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Well, Wolfus, Black Widows live in some South-western parts of Canada and maybe sometimes elsewhere in Canada, but I was not aware of brown recluse spiders growing up outside the South. My mother used to watch black widows make webs in the corners of a sleeping porch in Utah without worrying about them. But I was terrified of black widows growing up. They nested at the bottom corners of our basement stairs.

One of my friends had one crawl up her leg in gym class. Still remember it.

My cousin (my age) was scared of all spiders.

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 04:51 PM (rdeQO)

36 Well, Wolfus, Black Widows live in some South-western parts of Canada and maybe sometimes elsewhere in Canada, but I was not aware of brown recluse spiders growing up outside the South. My mother used to watch black widows make webs in the corners of a sleeping porch in Utah without worrying about them. But I was terrified of black widows growing up. They nested at the bottom corners of our basement stairs.

One of my friends had one crawl up her leg in gym class. Still remember it.

My cousin (my age) was scared of all spiders.
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Until she was twelve, my mother lived in a small town in Saskatchewan. Saskatoon was "the big city" to them. So that was way out on the prairies. Black widows live out there?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:53 PM (wzUl9)

37 OT: Someone here needs to send a photo in to the Gun Thread.

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 04:54 PM (rdeQO)

38 Some of our neighbors and nearby neighborhoods have been setting mortars and other bangs off for a few days now, even after 11pm. Our cats have been freaking out.

Last night they almost sent all their food flying in a panic. You can just imagine 6+ cats all scattering in every direction.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 04, 2026 04:54 PM (2F0/Y)

39 I find it hard to believe there are feral chickens wandering around any where. I have my grandmother's recipe for dumplings and gravy that are the perfect complement.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 04, 2026 04:56 PM (fkjGs)

40 We're getting hit with a bad storm right now. Cats are scared.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 04, 2026 04:59 PM (2F0/Y)

41 Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 04:53 PM

I think black widows would be more likely to live closer to the U.S. border. They prefer warm, dry conditions.

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 05:03 PM (rdeQO)

42 That leaf-mimicking spider clearly didn't like being picked up. They cut the video as it was about to become the FO phase of FAFO.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 04, 2026 05:17 PM (cWLG3)

43 We're getting hit with a bad storm right now. Cats are scared.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 04, 2026


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Storms generally have never bothered any of my cats. I guess I'm lucky.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 05:19 PM (wzUl9)

44 A few days ago had the carport door open as stormed rolled in. It was late at night with rain pouring and thunder popping. Isis and Pip were indoors, out of the weather. Isis sitting in the open door watching.

Then lightning struck close by and the thunder boomed at 11 in less than a second. Isis shot out the door like lightning to hide while Pip kept his face buried in the dry food.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2026 05:31 PM (sUDUf)

45 lol Anna!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 05:39 PM (D4LRG)

46 Noodus hobbyana

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 05:40 PM (wzUl9)

47 The "here kitty kitty" photo reminds me of a story about my oldest aunt. My mom and all of my aunts have whatever gene it is that makes them suckers for stray animals. My aunt at one time was feeding 30 feral cats until disease thinned the heard.

She and my uncle lived on a large, tree shaded property on a lake. One Christmas all of the family was gathered at my aunt's house. When it was time to feed the cats she filled 3 or 4 giant pans with cat chow and took them outside to the patio and called "kitty, kitty, kitty." Cats converged from all directions--running from the lake, dropping from the trees, racing down the hill. It was quite a sight!

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at July 04, 2026 05:40 PM (TrISa)

48 Pepperoni is a border collie that came to our place a couple of years ago. No collar and never showed up on the missing pet page. He is still pretty much a wild dog. Scary smart. Very defensive even though he is spoiled rotten like the other two rescue doggies. He bit me last week while the wife was putting on a flea collar. I expected that. Thunderstorms and gunfire cause him a lot of stress. He stays glued to my side. While kinda cute I do feel sorry for the pup. I’ll have company tonight. Happy 4th to all of you!!

Posted by: Billythesquid at July 04, 2026 05:47 PM (gN+5I)

49 Storms generally have never bothered any of my cats. I guess I'm lucky.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 05:19 PM (wzUl9)

The cats who panic the most are the Chili's and Cheese families. Even their kittens who have never been outside get extremely scared. They'll run through the house in panic and others dive for cover under tables and beds.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 04, 2026 05:59 PM (2F0/Y)

50 Just got off the lake. PTL son's GSP didn't fall off the pontoon. She's a handful. Wore me out.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 04, 2026 06:38 PM (dmoni)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 4!

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Happy Independence Day! I think the Cleome flowers above sort of resemble fireworks.

Hi KT!

The sunflowers are growing so tall in this heat. The one below is way above my head and is almost ready to bloom although the flowers will be very hard to see without a ladder

Other summer flowers are just now blooming. The cleome or spider flowers are something I started from seed this spring.

The bee balm is full of bees, as advertised

The gray headed cone flowers have just started to bloom. Yellow finches love them!


Hope you have a wonderful Independence Day!

Mrs. Leggy

Well, the birds and bees are loving your yard! Can't wait for those big sunflowers!

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar and his wife have moved to Hawaii, and send us a recipe idea to remind us of where they are:

As a 100% pureblooded cracker, let me offer everyone a friendly, culturally-appropriated "aloha" now that I'm fully moved and integrated on these conquered isles. . .

We will be posting many of their photos in the future, but for today, "a culinary abomination guaranteed to traumatize CBD's food thread (and give diabetes to anyone even gazing upon it)"

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Hi,

I have had this strawberry plant for 3 yrs now. It produces smaller berries but sweet ones. I would like to know, do I cut off the stems where the berries grew or leave them? I can't remember them being so strong or apparent in the last couple of years?

Thank you for a wonderful gardening thread.

Sidney

Are these regular strawberries, alpine or wild strawberries?

Any cultivation instruction from those with experience?


FOODS FROM THE AMERICAS

Growing corn this year? How about popcorn? What is your favorite type?

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I keep imagining how someone one day pulled this out of the ground and had the idea to eat it

Are you a fan?

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Landscapes

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From George V:

A few days ago the sunny humid day brought some pop-up showers and thunderstorms in the late afternoon to our home in southeast Michigan. With the sun low in the sky we were treated to magnificent sun showers as the storms pulled away. I was in our sun room out back watching it rain and as the last storm moved out it left a little rainbow that just spanned our back yard. I ran inside as quick as I could to get my phone. I was able to get a picture through our family room window just before it faded away. It was truly wonderful to see, and felt sort of like a blessing.

W0w. What a great thing!


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Gardens of The Horde

What's going on in your garden or neighborhood?

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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, June 27


I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:31 PM




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1 Oh please not first!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 04, 2026 01:34 PM (NnhvP)

2 Oops. Ill fetch them

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 04, 2026 01:34 PM (NnhvP)

3 Fetched.
Thank you for the Great pictures K.T.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 04, 2026 01:36 PM (NnhvP)

4 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Don't forget our feathered friends

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 01:39 PM (Ia/+0)

5 I think I would rather have strawberries on french toast than Fruity Pebbles.

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 01:43 PM (rdeQO)

6 I put up the first batch of spicy sweet pickles last week. Cukes are growing like mad in the greenhouse. Weeds everywhere in the beds outside, but I'm fighting them back. Horsetail and chickweed are the worst offenders and darn hard to eradicate. Beans and potatoes coming up, carrots beginning to show, dill and parsley both fanning out already. The lingonberry plants I put in last year are just now beginning to fruit, but they haven't spread so there are very few of them so far. Dug out the lousy old strawberries and planted a better species. May or may not get a lot off them this year. The hascaps should be ready next week or so, so plenty of jelly to make. I went medieval on the raspberries this spring, and now they are flourishing. Tomatoes and peppers growing apace in the greenhouse.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 04, 2026 01:47 PM (bl07w)

7 Having grown up in Wyoming, June snow in the mountains is far from unusual. Not sure how the fukishima quake could radically alter the jet stream. Makes little sense.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 04, 2026 02:00 PM (0aYVJ)

8 Strawberries on French Toast is good, had that other day

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 02:00 PM (Ia/+0)

9 Cassava - Yuca - Manioc is one of the oldest crops in South America. As a subsistence crop it is very easy to grow, has few pests and can live on poor sandy soil. It could be first gathered, then gardened with minimal care by ranging hunter gatherers, then intensively gardened. The down side is that it is full of bitter cyanide compounds that must be washed out of the starch or cooked out before the root is edible. It is the source of tapioca by the way.
It won't grow anywhere that the winters get to freezing, and it can't tolerate wet soil while dormant.
There are a lot of native new world staple plants that need to have toxins or indigestible sugars and fiber cooked or washed out of them.

That big old machete the guy is using is only good for cutting cane and cassava, if you use it on woody stuff it tends to chip the cutting edge.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 02:01 PM (rbvCR)

10 The jet stream is broken and it’s been broken since the Large Hardon Collider.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 02:01 PM (yMhwm)

11 We recently started buying house plants, since we no longer have cats. So far it's going very well. There is one that is kind of temperamental, but misting the leaves and putting it in the sun for a couple hours perks it right up. I actually think the pot is too small, so I am going to take acre of that soon. Next I want to get some cacti and some more succulents.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 04, 2026 02:02 PM (0aYVJ)

12 I am trying to pickle some early plums. They are just edged on being ripe, and it is a wonderful crop.
I followed a Russian recipe on pickling yellow plums, and in a month or so I guess I will know if it was a success or not.
Right now it is bubbling and the brine is still clear-ish.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 02:03 PM (rbvCR)

13 We have a row of cassava.
Wifey wants it.

We haven't done a thing with it yet.
One of these days maybe she'll make some pearls for smoothies...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 04, 2026 02:04 PM (/lPRQ)

14 cassava is a pretty plant and you will have no pests on it.
One Vlogger, David the Good, has spent a lot of time trying to get it to grow in Alabama, and has not had a lot of luck.
There are some videos of how to process it, and how to use the washed out starch, though most of them are in Spanish and Portuguese.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 02:11 PM (rbvCR)

15 My corn is waist high, the sunflowers are taller than I am, and I have cut all the cabbages.

I have a question, I seem to have a bunch of mini cabbages coming off the stumps, will they grow to second crop, and should I trim back all but one of the tiny heads to encourage them to get big?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 02:13 PM (rbvCR)

16 I'm heading back outside to continue raking up after the storm. No major damage but I have so many very large trees.

There a yellow lotus in the front yard. Huge. Always dropping branches I have to pick up before mowing, I've mowed it's leaves into December - in Canada. Leaves and branches were everywhere. I asked permission and did my neighbours' yard explaining it was all from my tree.

I'm thinking of calling it "The Giving Tree."

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 04, 2026 02:24 PM (Sco7b)

17 Pug,
I'm glad my cats can't read. Neither has ever bothered the plants, with the exception of catmint--I cut off stems of that and strew them on the floor and the cats go crazy and then pass out like drunks. But otherwise they leave everything alone.

Posted by: Wenda at July 04, 2026 02:36 PM (3uyrB)

18 BUMPER CROP OF CUKES? ... The salad linked below is very refreshing when made with the English cucumber called for in the recipe ... I imagine it would be equally good or better if small/young home-grown cukes were used ... I make it in small batches, but prepare the dressing in bulk so it's always on hand:

https://bellyfull.net/apple-date-celery-salad/

Posted by: Kathy at July 04, 2026 02:38 PM (MOK4W)

19 18 BUMPER CROP OF CUKES? ... The salad linked below is very refreshing when made with the English cucumber called for in the recipe ... I imagine it would be equally good or better if small/young home-grown cukes were used ... I make it in small batches, but prepare the dressing in bulk so it's always on hand:

https://bellyfull.net/apple-date-celery-salad/
Posted by: Kathy at July 04, 2026 02:38 PM (MOK4W
Bag excess cules up and give to homeless.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 02:49 PM (bEwGx)

20 Lemme guess. "Jet Stream is broken" guy blames it on the radiation released from failed cooling ponds at the Fukushima nuke plant?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 02:56 PM (1z8ji)

21 Watched a pair of small butterflies do an incredible air-dance around the front yard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 02:57 PM (XeU6L)

22
KT,

Thank you for the garden thread.

It is fun reading what people across are growing.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 03:00 PM (/QHx4)

23 If an eruption put volcanic ash into the atmosphere, that would cause cooling.

The recent rain has been grat for my little trees and the weeds. I don't think any Asian pears will make it. Have one dead so far and the other two aren't putting out a lot of leaves. The other trees look good. One of the berry bushes has put out some fruit. I think it is a marionberry. Fruit is purple, sweet and large. I'll see how it goes over the winter and replace any trees that don't make it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026 03:05 PM (bkuEU)

24 Good afternoon all.
Still very very hot here but my containers seem to be holding up.
Bought a small bird bath and some seed to try and attract a few birds. They found the seed but so far no interest in the bath.
Are baby orange peppers supposed to turn orange before you pick them?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 04, 2026 03:11 PM (kJmSS)

25 blames it on the radiation released from failed cooling ponds at the Fukushima nuke plant?
And gladiator movies.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 03:19 PM (Kt19C)

26 82°, sunny in Van Nuys. Feels hotter. Humidity 34%.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 03:23 PM (Kt19C)

27 So Happy! I found *two* little green peeper frogs among my plants when watering today. I knew there had to be some around, because I've heard them in the past, but this is the first time I've actually seen them.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 04, 2026 03:24 PM (lFFaq)

28 "The jet stream is broken and it’s been broken since the Large Hardon Collider."

guffaw

Posted by: Abby Normal at July 04, 2026 03:28 PM (jrgJz)

29 99 degrees here is se Pa

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 03:29 PM (qEb4U)

30 This thread males me so happy every week.

In a world gone mad, an endless cortisol fountain...

The Gardening Post helps.

Posted by: Sifty at July 04, 2026 03:31 PM (GIk44)

31
78 degrees here in SW Wyoming.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 03:32 PM (/QHx4)

32 High fog, cold, dark, breezy, awful, 63.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 03:34 PM (RIvkX)

33 Guess we'll have to have a strawberry culture feature soon.

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 03:38 PM (rdeQO)

34 merely 98F here under overcast skies.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 04, 2026 03:50 PM (NnhvP)

35 Well, lunch break is over. Back to the salt mines.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 04:03 PM (1z8ji)

36 In the meantime, Sidney, examine the stems to see if there are any joints on them that look like they might sprout roots. Regular strawberries are often propagated by pinning "runners" down to soil next to a row of existing strawberries.

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2026 04:28 PM (rdeQO)

37 Notsothoreau, I water my new fruit trees, even now when they are big enough to survive on their own. I run the water from my hand dish washing though a worm bin and dump those on my trees, but before I had the bin I had several five gallon buckets that I drilled small holes in the base, and filled those and let them run onto the base of the trees. It seems to get them to survive better.

I admit that I lost a transplanted rose when I tried that a couple years ago. I transplanted too late, and we didn't get rain for 4 months.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 05:19 PM (rbvCR)

38 Apologizes, a very busy weekend. The strawberries are Home Depot regular variety. They do produce thru the summer. I've seen runners on the plant but not so much this year, yet, just the baby plants that have sprouted up in the back of the planter. I'll leave the shoots and see if I get more strawberries from them.

Posted by: sidney at July 05, 2026 02:51 PM (rzwGB)

39 Wow, totally spaced this since I was invited to a wild party in the evening. Have to make a note to post next week!!

Posted by: Pat* at July 05, 2026 08:10 PM (jnqkv)

Happy 250th Anniversary!

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Courtesy Robert and Holly

Anybody remember this?


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I remember community celebrations on ordinary Independence Days, too. How about you?

In particular, a person who will remain nameless here (with whom I had gone to a community program and who was featured on that program) accidentally stepped off the stage into a tub of watermelons at the park. Memorable!

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Keeping Track of History

Frank Luntz:

This is an incredible account that posts moments from American history as they happened 250 years ago from the date of each tweet.


Go to the main page for the latest tweets from this account, but older ones are also interesting.

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The tweets don't just address American history:


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Where do we go from here?

Year 251 Wilfred M. McClay

The 250th has once again brought the Declaration back into view, and much good can come of that fact, if we are willing and able to embrace it fully, courageously, with a willingness to hear what it is telling us. Let me try to suggest in what follows some of the ways the Declaration can be used as a tool to correct, reorient, and sharpen our sense of what is foundational to our way of life. Some of this work will involve correcting inaccurate notions of what the Declaration actually said.

First of all, it is vitally important to remember that the Declaration began by referring to the colonists for whom it spoke as a “people,” who were “entitled” to a “separate and equal status” by the laws of nature and “Nature’s God.” Those words formed the basis for all that follows. It was the “peoplehood” of the Americans, their sense of belonging together in their own separate land, that formed the basis for their declaring their independence. It did not come from their acceptance of some misty notion of America as “an idea” whose time has come, and which happens to have touched down from the heavens first in this particular place.

That the Declaration has universal implications, and has found favor all over the world as one of the great charters of human liberty, is certainly true; but it does not change the immediate context in which the Declaration emerged: as an expression of an important moment of self-recognition in the life of this particular political community. With the Declaration we declared ourselves to ourselves, proposing that we were now a distinct people among the peoples of the earth. “Something we were withholding made us weak,” wrote Robert Frost, “Until we found out that it was ourselves / We were withholding from our land of living.” The Declaration laid a foundation for the new thing that we were becoming. It was a declaration grounded in national solidarity, in the right of a people to define themselves and govern themselves.

After you read (or listen to) this piece, you might want to read Buck Throckmorton's Morning Rant from yesterday again, and listen to the music at the end. The rant also suggests the right of a people to define themselves and govern themselves. And the rant gives meaning to the music.


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Weekend

Powerline has some good posts for the weekend, including their annual post on the address by Calvin Coolidge celebrating the 150 anniversary. The address features the Declaration of Independence.

And:

Steven Hayward: The Week in Pictures: Sophia and the 4th


Move over Sydney Sweeney: America has a new heroine perfectly fitted to the July 4 semiquincentennial today: She is Sophie Cunningham, Sophie being an adaptation of sophia, the ancient Greek word for wisdom. And sort of like Helen of Troy, our Sophie has launched a thousand memes. So as we celebrate today the sophia of our founding, let Sophie help point the way!

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Music

Hope I got the right performance, Hadrian.

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, June 27, Let's go forward, not backward or sideways, in medicine!

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

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1 Happy Independence Day, 'ettes and 'rons!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at July 04, 2026 11:01 AM (xVpNO)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 04, 2026 11:03 AM (NcvvS)

3 Blade snags a first on the 250th?

Posted by: Elric the Blade at July 04, 2026 11:04 AM (FyPhv)

4 fOURTH ON THE FOURTH?

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at July 04, 2026 11:05 AM (/enuJ)

5 yeah us

Posted by: doug at July 04, 2026 11:05 AM (Hy+R4)

6 Roomy.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 04, 2026 11:06 AM (mQbp+)

7 “Catherine the Great ends her affair with advisor Grigory Potemkin after the love “lost its passion.”

Mr Ed said “see ya later, loser!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 11:06 AM (H8EHh)

8
I'm told that because we're not perfect we have no reason to celebrate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 11:07 AM (O0L8i)

9 I do indeed remember the 200th. My cousins and I went out into the cotton field next to my Uncle's farm where we sat there in the deep South Texas darkness and watched the fireworks from all around. Lovely evening...

How the hell did 50 years get past me that quick?

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 04, 2026 11:07 AM (bdHbP)

10 Happiest of 250s everyone.

Deadline reported DC parade was cancelled.
Stay cool.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at July 04, 2026 11:08 AM (Sco7b)

11 Willowed:

322 >>They have degrees, credentials but zero knowledge of the actual world. I can't recall if it was Orwell or Lewis that said some things are so stupid that only the educated can believe them.

Look at the new wave of communists taking over the Democrat Party. Virtually all of them, including Mamdani, have never had a real job. Lots of education, zero real world knowledge.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:43 AM (viF8m)

No experience in running even a lemonade stand, but lots and lots of hubris. Collectivism is demonic -- it requires the commission of the Sins of Pride, Wrath, Envy and Greed. Any spirit of agape' is conspicuously absent, despite their protestations of caring about the downtrodden.

I jut don't get this argument. I, unlike all the "real world" types you adore, have never failed at anything. True, I've never attempted anything, but my record is perfect.

Posted by: Zorro Mamdani at July 04, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t)

12 I’ve seen very little 250 related stuff in my area. Granted 4th of July is celebrated here every year with a lot of excitement as it is. Just weird to see the 250th almost ignored.

Do people just not care about the number? Personally I think it’s cooler, more significant than 200. I wasn’t around in 1976 but from what I’ve read/heard it was yuuuge deal then.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 11:10 AM (Qlrgu)

13 Been watching the Navy celebration being held in NY.
Impressive.
But if that little pissant Mamdani keeps shooting his mouth off, a couple battalions of tanks rolling down Broadway will be just as impressive.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2026 11:10 AM (2WIwB)

14 Socialism’s appeal is simple. People love getting free shit. And will vote for those who promise it.
Children would happily vote for someone who promised them candy for dinner every night. Same concept.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 11:12 AM (Qlrgu)

15 i missed all the excitement for '76 'cause i was in yerp. dad didn't retire from the army until october '76.

Posted by: anachronda at July 04, 2026 11:14 AM (qdr3M)

16 Poll: Nearly Half of Americans Don’t Know What America’s 250th Is Celebrating

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I think it was the birth of Keith Richards.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 11:14 AM (ndZc7)

17 Quite the show up in NYC. Must leave some conflicted.

On that note, some conflicted person there posted a photo on X of a subway car, dressed up in an Iranian flag motif.

The left never, ever misses a chance to rub your nose in their shit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 11:14 AM (jehhT)

18 Taking colonial house tour

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 11:19 AM (qXs2h)

19 16 Poll: Nearly Half of Americans Don’t Know What America’s 250th Is Celebrating
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I think it was the birth of Keith Richards.



I think it's the age of the milk in my frig.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2026 11:20 AM (Riz8t)

20 >>I wasn’t around in 1976 but from what I’ve read/heard it was yuuuge deal then.

It was. I graduated high school that year.

My senior yearbook:

https://tinyurl.com/4nuzt7mn

Posted by: one hour sober at July 04, 2026 11:21 AM (J4Dwc)

21 Earlier the Declaration of Independence was read from upstairs porch. Was easily couple hundred people for that

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 11:22 AM (qXs2h)

22 Happy 250th! As I said in the previous thread, "May the wings of liberty never lose a feather." Truly.

Going to spend the day grilling, movie watching, and fireworking.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 11:22 AM (gWBY1)

23 Re Jefferson and the thermometer - according to AI thermometers were hard to get luxuries in the colonies at the time and generally could be found in hubs like Philadelphia via specialized merchants. Sounds like he picked up a cool techie souviner.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 04, 2026 11:22 AM (jPdyB)

24 Had a Ruger mini 14 "liberty model".

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 11:23 AM (Kt19C)

25 Today we’re celebrating the defeat of Germany in WW2 on July 4th 1865. The end of the war was formally signed by President George W. Clinton in Philadelphia.

Posted by: Recent High School Graduate at July 04, 2026 11:24 AM (Qlrgu)

26 Given the heat and our lack of interest in being in crowds, the celebrations are at home today. However, there are going to be plenty of fireworks in my neighborhood.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 11:24 AM (/k3in)

27 Today we’re celebrating the defeat of Germany in WW2 on July 4th 1865. The end of the war was formally signed by President George W. Clinton in Philadelphia.

Posted by: Recent High School Graduate


Ummm, I think you forgot to mention the key role played by George Floyd.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2026 11:26 AM (Riz8t)

28 There was a Centennial celebration too. I happen to have a set of Centennial chairs--bought many (many) years ago at an auction in NYC. Summer, a small unairconditioned auction house, so not many people to bid.

Eight side chairs, two arm chairs. The backs are so intricately carved, I still stop and admire them. Two of the chairs are not in good shape, but I keep them till I can find someone to repair them properly.

At that time, small museums frequently used small auction houses when they were de-acquisitioning, and they did it anonymously, so there were occasionally great finds.

Anyway. A small reminder of a previous big day in 1876!

Posted by: Wenda at July 04, 2026 11:26 AM (3uyrB)

29 George Washington's favorite hoecake recipe:

https://www.mountvernon.org/inn/recipes/article/hoecakes

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 11:26 AM (gWBY1)

30 Yeah, well, I have to stay home and wash my hair that day.

Trump Floats White House Football Invite for Obama, Biden, and Bush

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 11:26 AM (ndZc7)

31 USAF Academy Band at Mt. Rushmore yesterday. Video on X. Unexpected vibes.

https://tinyurl.com/c4p8yk7x

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 11:27 AM (jehhT)

32 E Plebnista!... The Thing!

Posted by: Cloud William von Biden at July 04, 2026 11:28 AM (rgnea)

33 Having a Long Island Iced Tea to start the Celebration.

In a very real sense, The US exists because of Tea.

It's the elixir of Patriots.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 04, 2026 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)

34 The Bicentennial was a huge deal. Everything had a tie-in to it. Now? There are so many foreigners and America hating citizens in the nation they are actively mocking and sabotaging the 250th.

We need a cleansing.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 04, 2026 11:29 AM (HXBtj)

35 No invitation for me?

Posted by: President Bubba at July 04, 2026 11:30 AM (Qlrgu)

36 That Sophie girl is growing on me. She plays basketball? 'Cause I never see any basketball, but I see a lot of non-basketball stuff. Of course, it's the WNBA, so nobody else sees much of it, either.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 04, 2026 11:30 AM (QaH55)

37 >>> Trump Floats White House Football Invite for Obama, Biden, and Bush

Trump is going to host Freddy the German at the WH! He sadly had an attempt to cancel him because he was having too much fun loving our country. Glad he's still going.

Trump met another world cup visitor and gave him a commemorative coin.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 11:30 AM (gWBY1)

38 Fireworks have already started on the beach by the more patriotic among us. Some well brought up 7 or 8 year old has dug in and is returning fire as best he can with some whiffle balls. We've had a few flybys of some F-18s already. They have to be out of NAS Oceana in Virginia Beach.

Day drinking is fully underway and the college-aged lifeguards are completely overwhelmed.

Wish you all were here. No, really. It would be a blast.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2026 11:31 AM (NXz0i)

39 35 No invitation for me?
Posted by: President Bubba


Sorry, Bill. Hillary said she had plans for you that day.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 11:32 AM (/k3in)

40 Being on the cusp of 30 years of age makes you appreciate the little things.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 04, 2026 11:34 AM (cWLG3)

41 That Sophie girl is growing on me. She plays basketball? 'Cause I never see any basketball, but I see a lot of non-basketball stuff. Of course, it's the WNBA, so nobody else sees much of it, either.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder

They're invading basketball!

Stephen A. Smith Stunned by Lakers’ Building Roster Around White Players: “3 White Dudes?!”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 11:35 AM (ndZc7)

42 Very cool yearbook, One-hour-sober!

I also graduated in 1976. Our mortar board tassels had a Liberty Bell and '76 on them.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 04, 2026 11:35 AM (3AwA+)

43 I rode my 10 speed bike to the Washington Mall to watch the fireworks on the 200th. Difficult to leave crowd walking bike out afterwards. Busses to take crowds away afterwards were late.
I stopped at intersection of Spout Run Parkway and George Washington Parkway in Arlington to redirect cars driving up wrong side of the Parkway.

Posted by: CapeFear at July 04, 2026 11:37 AM (9I1qu)

44 A couple days ago Gutfeld and crew filmed a show from the Mall and they were visibly miserable and sweaty. Lots of folks out enjoying the pavilions though.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 11:37 AM (kpS4V)

45 Happy Birthday, Horde!
America is 250 years young, today!

God bless America!

I'm gonna blow some stuff up this evening, just to let everyone know how much I love this country!

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 11:39 AM (kU0PQ)

46 >>> @ThePatriotOasis
🔥🚨 EPIC FLYOVER! Dozens of fighter jets — including the legendary Blue Angels — are flying down the Hudson River near NYC.
Our military is putting on a massive show for the 250th! 🇺🇸🔥
What a sight!

"When people say something can't be done, Americans have always proven them wrong"

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 11:39 AM (gWBY1)

47 American know how.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2224125045194097

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 11:40 AM (ndZc7)

48 Reddit been hilarious with the World Cup. Tons of posts asking how can people afford these tickets, when we’re in the middle of a Trump economic depression. Or the offshoot of how can so many people from South American attend the games when they’re all living in poverty there? Or how can any non-white foreigner come here when ICE Gestapo is waiting to kill them all.

The left was convinced the WC would be a total disaster because the world was boycotting due to Trump and ICE. They also live in a world where everyone is broke because capitalism is baaaaad.

Now they’re seeing every game in 60-80k stadiums sold out with tickets going for thousands of dollars on resale websites. Foreigners having the time of their lives. And their brains are short circuiting. Everything they believe isn’t real.

It’s been amusing to witness.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 11:41 AM (Qlrgu)

49 Blue Trane can get you where you need to be in 19 minutes:
youtube.com/watch?v=FmkGg1lc0hc

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:42 AM (Jr5Lq)

50 The WNBA tries to downplay attractive players like Sophie. Don't want the bull dykes to feel left out.

Posted by: Wally at July 04, 2026 11:43 AM (0e5Te)

51 I remember the Bi-Centennial Quarter with the drummer man with muscles on the flip side.

That was back before Sackameepenis and that lesbian Susan B Anthony ruined minted coinage forever and dumb Americans voted in Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Echoes of 76 at July 04, 2026 11:44 AM (g7saB)

52 E Plebnista!... The Thing!
Posted by: Cloud William von Biden at July 04, 2026 11:28 AM (rgnea)

You know, that episode is very timely in this 250th year. A great many seem to have lost the meaning of the words in that great document, hearing only that we have license instead of liberty. They happily cling to their wealth and tranquility and shun the animating contest of freedom.

Go out there today, and let the world know how much America means to you! Let them understand why you love America, even with all her wrinkles, at 250. And live such that all of the sacrifices of those in 1776 and after have been worth it!

God bless America!
(I don't care that I already said that.)

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 11:47 AM (kU0PQ)

53 ABC 7, eyewitness news
13 minutes ago

Spectacular military flyover ahead of Sail4th 250 on the Hudson
A parade in the sky of military aircraft led by the Navy's Blue Angels took place during Sail4th 250, a gathering of tall ships and military ships celebrating America's 250th birthday.

The French Air Force acrobatic squad Patrouille de France released a stream of red, white and blue while flying over the Hudson River and New York Harbor.

I must admit, there's nothing as exciting as NYC and the Blue Angles are always magnificent.

Have a lovely holiday weekend.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 04, 2026 11:47 AM (NFX2v)

54 We’ve been dominating the NBA for a while now.

Posted by: European Whites at July 04, 2026 11:48 AM (Qlrgu)

55 I wore wool crackerjacks.
- a squid

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 11:49 AM (LHPAg)

56 Very fine speech by Calvin Coolidge. Thanks for posting a link, K.T. And thanks for the entire thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 11:49 AM (D+BhG)

57 I love the "Top 3 Finger Pointers" meme at Powerline.

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 11:49 AM (kU0PQ)

58 Blue Angles > Crimson Curves

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 11:50 AM (Jr5Lq)

59
42 Very cool yearbook, One-hour-sober!

I also graduated in 1976. Our mortar board tassels had a Liberty Bell and '76 on them.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 04, 2026 11:35 AM (3AwA+)

Funny, I graduated in ‘77, but most of the friends I hung out with were in the class of ‘76. Some things never change!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 11:52 AM (H8EHh)

60 I was a kid but I remember the 200th as a warm time, much like the World Cup fun and fellowship we are seeing. Don't recall any one particular thing, just the feeling and the energy from everyone all summer. Joy. Gratitude. One people. We were American and we loved it. Nobody had to remind you how rare and precious. We all knew it.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 04, 2026 11:52 AM (jPdyB)

61 I happened to be in Washington DC in the summer of 1976, helping a friend move to the area. There was a festive holiday mood. Good feelings of unity in the country, unlike today.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 11:52 AM (WaTrL)

62 Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 11:41 AM (Qlrgu)

I have appreciated your updates . I don't watch soccer, although I'm not one of the folks who thinks it's like kickball, but I am glad about all the fans who have come here and appreciated things about the U.S.A and I certainly hope our team does well.

Keep up the good work!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 11:53 AM (D+BhG)

63 Happy 250th Morons and 'ettes!

Great photos and I LOVE that Sophie is Queen!

I guess the Dims and commies are sad today. We just had a flyover and I ran out on the deck in my nightgown and could not see the fighter planes. Imagine how Iran feels when they hear this sound of freedom!

I want a photo of them but they are gone by the time you hear them.

Have a great and safe celebration!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 04, 2026 11:56 AM (hzuYO)

64 I went to see the Boston Pops on the Esplanade on July 4th, 1976. Huge crowd and great fireworks. They always put on a great show in Boston for the 4th but that was by far the biggest crowd I ever saw.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 11:58 AM (viF8m)

65 Oh, I do remember July 4, 1976. My family were at a beach house in Dauphin Island, Alabama. It was quiet on the beach that night except for fireworks here and there as my late brother and I had beer.

Tonight might not be a lot different, minus the beer and beach. Quiet as fireworks are banned in much of the Intermountain West due to drought. Rock on!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 04, 2026 11:59 AM (hzuYO)

66 Happy 250th all ! You don't look a day over 249....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2026 11:59 AM (xp6Fy)

67
Land of Grand Tetons!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 12:03 PM (Kt19C)

68 Tip for those making a red, white, and blue cake for Independence Day: use gel food coloring, it works better and gives you richer colors.*


*except for the "classic blue," it doesn't get dark, but the red does.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2026 12:03 PM (1Ff7Z)

69 Grigory Potemkin couldn't hang with the horse.

Posted by: tsj017 at July 04, 2026 12:05 PM (xakWh)

70 Bulwark endorsed Mayor of Scranton (Joe Biden!) and current congressional candidate (PA- Paige Cognetti wants all of America (including cops) to be gun free!
AI Overview
Scranton Mayor and Democratic congressional candidate Paige Cognetti expressed support for emulating Japan's gun-control laws and disarming police in a resurfaced 2020 virtual town hall. She stated she would "love to get to a world... where our police don't have firearms and where citizens are not carrying them either," citing her time living in Japan

Daily Caller: Dem Mayor Seeking To Flip Red Seat Blue Fantasized About Disarming Police, Citizens In Resurfaced Video
https:/tinyurl.com/4nn6zk7a

Politician Wants America Gun-Free Like Japan
Colion Noir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLAz7HmHofg

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 04, 2026 12:05 PM (9aVck)

71 >>>That Sophie girl is growing on me.

She's quite attractive and mentioned recently on some popular podcast that she will marry at some point, looking for a man to take care of her (her words).

That had to have upset the feminazis listening in.

She's a male gaze magnet (strike one)

She plays in the lowly women's league that exists only because it is propped up financially by the widely more popular men's league (strike two)

She's looking for a man to take care of her (strike three)

Posted by: one hour sober at July 04, 2026 12:05 PM (J4Dwc)

72 That Sophie girl is growing on me. She plays basketball? 'Cause I never see any basketball, but I see a lot of non-basketball stuff. Of course, it's the WNBA, so nobody else sees much of it, either.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder

---

I like her style on and off the court. While playing, she is cool as a cucumber. And she really seems to be enjoying just living life. Good for her.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 12:05 PM (EqY/n)

73 Just completed marching in a 250 parade. It seemed a nice bookend to my march in 1976. Pretty sure I won’t make 300

Posted by: Community Notes at July 04, 2026 12:05 PM (GIU8b)

74 Paige Cognetti wants all of America (including cops) to be gun free!
So soon after pride month?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 12:07 PM (Kt19C)

75 Foreigners having the time of their lives.

That's probably the part that is pissing off the folks on Reddit the most. "HOW DARE THEY BE HAPPY! DON'T THE KNOW THAT RAYSIS RETUGLIKKANS RUN THIS PLACE WITH THE CHRISTOTALIBAN!?"

(Have I ever mentioned how glad I am to not be liberal these days? Misery is overrated.)

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 12:08 PM (/k3in)

76 The Democratic Socialists of NYC, etc. are doing just fine.

NYC had the magnificent military flyover & the Tall Ships have docked nearby.

The Kelce's have donated 26 million across several major non-profits targeting "food rescue logistics," educational outreach, and specialized pediatric medical care including:

City Harvest (New York, NY): Summer Food Rescue Program, which distributes fresh food to more than 2.4 million New Yorkers.
Harvesters – The Community Food Network (Kansas City, MO): Expanding Mobile Food Pantries & child hunger initiatives to provide roughly 2 million meals to families facing historic inflation.
The Store (Nashville, TN): Supporting their Free Grocery Store Program for low-income families to shop for fresh, healthy food with dignity.
New York Cares (New York, NY): Scaling up Volunteer-Powered Community Service Programs which mobilize tens of thousands of locals to manage urban food distribution networks.

Then there's the Grammy Museum Foundation; Dolly Parton's Imagination Library, and Education Through Music (New York, NY). And MSK Kids at Memorial Sloan Kettering (New York, NY), Children's Mercy Hospital (Kansas City, MO).

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 04, 2026 12:09 PM (NFX2v)

77 65 Oh, I do remember July 4, 1976. My family were at a beach house in Dauphin Island, Alabama. It was quiet on the beach that night except for fireworks here and there as my late brother and I had beer.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 04, 2026 11:59 AM
******

I was in Gulf Shores.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 12:10 PM (2Ez/1)

78 Happy Birthday America.
I wouldn’t know what liberty meant without you.

Posted by: Speller at July 04, 2026 12:11 PM (pSotA)

79 Oh, my plan is to make the Tricentennial. Don't hate me. I'm just optimistic.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 04, 2026 12:11 PM (3AwA+)

80 Happy to oblige Fenelon.

US - Belgium is on Monday. And in Seattle too, easily the best home crowd the US team could hope for. That worked out well.

We’re actually the ever so slight favorites right now. Something alien to US men’s soccer.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 12:12 PM (Qlrgu)

81 Pretty sure I won’t make 300
Posted by: Community Notes at July 04, 2026 12:05 PM (GIU8b)

You can try, can't you?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2026 12:13 PM (1Ff7Z)

82 78 Concur. Well put.

Posted by: gp at July 04, 2026 12:14 PM (Jr5Lq)

83 Socialism’s appeal is simple. People love getting free shit. And will vote for those who promise it.
Children would happily vote for someone who promised them candy for dinner every night. Same concept.
Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 11:12 AM

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By design, our schools don't explain "the flaw the plan". Two weeks in high school on the the simple differences between capitalism and socialism would make the point.

There's no such thing as a free lunch

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 12:15 PM (YDjYy)

84 >>I like her style on and off the court. While playing, she is cool as a cucumber. And she really seems to be enjoying just living life. Good for her.

She was a placekicker on her high school football team...and homecoming queen.

The sexy tomboy.

'merica...

Posted by: one hour sober at July 04, 2026 12:15 PM (J4Dwc)

85
The same people who are telling us that they can't possibly celebrate the 250th anniversary of this nation are the same ones who a month ago were screaming at some baseball players who refused to celebrate Pride Month.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 12:18 PM (O0L8i)

86 SOPHIE CUNNINHAM'S POINT IS HILLARIOUS BECAUSE THIS WAS HER RESPONSE TO THAT THUG PLAYER SCREAMING "DON'T YOU POINT AT ME!"


SOPHIE GAVE HER THE MOST 'MORE COWBELL' POINT POSSIBLE!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 04, 2026 12:19 PM (X8xt3)

87 Im glad Im not the only one who fixates on the temperatures in the morning

that must mean Im just as schmart as Jefferson!

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Now With More Quality Fapness at July 04, 2026 12:22 PM (fapp/)

88 There’s a decent chance I’ll make it to 300. Medical advances in the next 50 years could be revolutionary and make people live much longer than we’ve been used to.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 12:23 PM (Qlrgu)

89 1976, my dear late sister had just graduated high school.

She and I, accompanied by our only brother at that time, walked up the hill in our little rowhouse community and watched the local parade.

Police cars and fire engines; Miss 4th of July (had all teeth) riding in the back of a convertible; kids from the local boys and girls clubs & our 1st area swim club (private) on decorated bikes; a baby parade with judged winners, an ice cream truck stationed along the road at the end of the parade.

And most importantly, a few of our surviving military veterans from the Vietnam War.

That evening, there were fireworks in a field. Hoodlums, bikers, whatever present; everyone present was respectful and patriotic at that time.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 04, 2026 12:24 PM (NFX2v)

90
Good morning, all! Got 5 flags flying, including a special Happy 250th Birthday one.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 12:28 PM (mmrXZ)

91
-and make people live much longer than we’ve been used to-

I'm already living longer than I've been used to.

Posted by: Speller at July 04, 2026 12:28 PM (pSotA)

92 DC 4th Update: has to be a million people in DC to celebrate the 250th! Great American State Fair is amazing. Jam packed with patriots wearing their colors.

Not too many liberals; they must be keeping cool at Starbucks...

Posted by: The Sanhedrin at July 04, 2026 12:31 PM (+9A0s)

93 “Police cars and fire engines; Miss 4th of July (had all teeth) riding in the back of a convertible; kids from the local boys and girls clubs & our 1st area swim club (private) on decorated bikes; a baby parade with judged winners, an ice cream truck stationed along the road at the end of the parade.”

My small city’s annual 4th of July is basically this. It’s very local and “low cost” which makes it great. Volunteers and local businesses making floats. Local HS cheerleaders, marching bands, police cars, fire trucks, etc. Small town old school feel. And always heavily attended.

We hear about blue shithole cities like Buffalo canceling parades and fireworks because a Muslim is offended. But we never hear about the thousands of small cities counties and towns across the country who still celebrate.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 12:32 PM (Qlrgu)

94 There’s a decent chance I’ll make it to 300. Medical advances in the next 50 years could be revolutionary and make people live much longer than we’ve been used to.
Posted by: World Cup Update
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You'll be under glass and betting quatloos.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 04, 2026 12:32 PM (XvL8K)

95 My plan is to live forever.
So far, so good.

Posted by: Stephen Wright at July 04, 2026 12:32 PM (2Ez/1)

96 Another beautiful thread, K.T. Thank you.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 04, 2026 12:33 PM (NFX2v)

97 Surgery prep tomorrow so I won’t be able to eat anything. Going to make up for that today.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2026 12:34 PM (u73oe)

98 The same people who are telling us that they can't possibly celebrate the 250th anniversary of this nation are the same ones who a month ago were screaming at some baseball players who refused to celebrate Pride Month.

And had Kamala been installed in 2024 they would be flying flags and arguing anyone that didn't join in should leave.

Because nothing the left natters on about is real, it is all about power.

Pride month gives money and power to the Alphabet mafia. The 4th under a non-leftist gives legitimacy to a non-leftist. Hence the different reactions

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)

99
"A land whose countryside would be bright with cozy homesteads, whose fields and villages would be joyous with the sounds of industry, with the romping of sturdy children, the contest of athletic youths and the laughter of comely maidens, whose firesides would be forums for the wisdom of serene old age. The home, in short, of a people living the life that God desires that men should live."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 12:35 PM (O0L8i)

100
88 There’s a decent chance I’ll make it to 300. Medical advances in the next 50 years could be revolutionary.

I’ve already picked out a nice jar for my brain!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 12:36 PM (H8EHh)

101 Ventura has a quaint parade tho it's been 29 years.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 12:36 PM (Kt19C)

102 Surgery prep tomorrow so I won’t be able to eat anything. Going to make up for that today.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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Don't overdo it. Post-surgical intestinal problems are not uncommon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 12:36 PM (XeU6L)

103 There’s a decent chance I’ll make it to 300. Medical advances in the next 50 years could be revolutionary and make people live much longer than we’ve been used to.

There have certainly been advances against cancer and some other long term health issues but longevity research hasn't been as effective as you might expect by looking at rising life expectancies.

The number one longevity treatment is still...don't do drugs or drink to excess and get exercise to stay thin-ish with some muscle

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:36 PM (sKqQm)

104 It's so damned hot that I just can't develop any enthusiasm for being outside at all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 12:38 PM (XeU6L)

105 comely maidens

'Murica!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 12:38 PM (Kt19C)

106 By design, our schools don't explain "the flaw the plan". Two weeks in high school on the the simple differences between capitalism and socialism would make the point.

Yes this is always an interesting discussions with relatively well meaning LIVs.

Ok, fine we share everything...who makes the stuff we share? The people currently working? Ok, but if they get the same amount of stuff whether they work or not why would they work? Oh...you think most people that work enjoy working so much they would spend their time doing it if they didn't draw a salary? Would you? No? Why would anyone else be any different?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:41 PM (sKqQm)

107 There have certainly been advances against cancer and some other long term health issues but longevity research hasn't been as effective as you might expect by looking at rising life expectancies.

The number one longevity treatment is still...don't do drugs or drink to excess and get exercise to stay thin-ish with some muscle
Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:36 PM (sKqQm)

Yeah for sure.

I’m not expecting a pill to magically make me live to 100. But if medicine/science can cure more cancers, Alzheimer’s stuff like that, then the path to making it to 100 becomes a lot easier.

Posted by: World Cup Update at July 04, 2026 12:42 PM (Qlrgu)

108
By design, our schools don't explain "the flaw the plan". Two weeks in high school on the the simple differences between capitalism and socialism would make the point.
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Two or three decades ago, 'Civics' was displaced by 'Sociology'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 12:42 PM (XeU6L)

109 I would like to give a special Shout Out to the United Kingdom (or more aptly, England), for doing stupid sh*t back in the 1700's causing my relatives to head to Amsterdam, catching the ship Rotterdam, and moving across the ocean back in 1753.

Happy Independence Day!!!!

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 12:43 PM (dIske)

110 I was told by a guide at Mt Vernon that while most depictions of George Washington show him with a powdered wig, he was actually a red head.

Posted by: SMOD at July 04, 2026 12:43 PM (O7XEN)

111 The number one longevity treatment is still...don't do drugs or drink to excess and get exercise to stay thin-ish with some muscle
Posted by: 18-1
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Healthy diet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 12:44 PM (XeU6L)

112 The number one longevity treatment is still...don't do drugs or drink to excess and get exercise to stay thin-ish with some muscle
Posted by: 18-1
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Healthy diet.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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It's still probably 80% genetic.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 04, 2026 12:46 PM (XvL8K)

113 I am going to play classical music and keep the TV on tonight for the animals because we are going into Fairhope proper for the concert and fireworks display on the bluff. Normally we just watch it from the pier here and can get a little view of Fairhope, Dauphin Island, and Mobile depending on cloud cover. But I want to hear the orchestra this year, it’s special.

Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2026 12:47 PM (OoFl2)

114 Out of all the actors that have played Washington , David Morse in the John Adams series was by far the very best.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 12:47 PM (afJtY)

115 The number one longevity treatment is still...don't do drugs or drink to excess and get exercise to stay thin-ish with some muscle
Posted by: 18-1

Genetics.

Posted by: Zombie Gregor Mendel at July 04, 2026 12:47 PM (g7saB)

116 The media's having a difficult time rationalizing the crowds that came out for the events in NYC and DC. So's the left in general.

Proclamations were made all week it'd be a bust. And it's not remotely true.

Here, it's popular to put an American flag in the back of a pickup truck and ride around in a convoy with others all flying the flag. I've seen several already. And we're out in the sticks.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 12:47 PM (jehhT)

117 I’m not expecting a pill to magically make me live to 100. But if medicine/science can cure more cancers, Alzheimer’s stuff like that, then the path to making it to 100 becomes a lot easier.

Cancer we are making more progress on than Alzheimers/dementia which is actually in some ways sad. I have a relative with both and they just about have his cancer beat but I know the mental side is not going to get better.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:47 PM (sKqQm)

118 I graduated high school in 1976. Good times it was.

Posted by: yep at July 04, 2026 12:48 PM (s9TOl)

119 110 I was told by a guide at Mt Vernon that while most depictions of George Washington show him with a powdered wig, he was actually a red head.
Posted by: SMOD at July 04, 2026 12:43 PM (O7XEN)
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Red-headed, fit, and 6'2" back in the 1700's.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 12:49 PM (dIske)

120 They always drew Indians like they'd never seen an Indian before.

Posted by: Delurker at July 04, 2026 12:49 PM (2Drhq)

121 Paige Cognetti, a note. JN Cops are armed. Also, don't fuck with them.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 04, 2026 12:49 PM (gm9Sb)

122 Paige Cognetti wants all of America (including cops) to be gun free!
So soon after pride month?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 12:07 PM (Kt19C)

I would be OK with all of the full-time cops being disarmed, and having to call out the militia/posse if violence is needed.

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 12:49 PM (kU0PQ)

123 Jefferson was a nerd!
Awesome!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 04, 2026 12:50 PM (u/wrI)

124 Genetics.
Posted by: Zombie Gregor Mendel at July 04, 2026 12:47 PM (g7saB)


Actually I think this is kind of a random one.

Years lived after fertility ends have a quickly declining impact on producing offspring and making sure they in turn have children.

If there is a genetic aspect to religious affiliation though that could be a significant one since the depth of religious belief correlates pretty well with how many children you have.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:50 PM (sKqQm)

125 114 Out of all the actors that have played Washington , David Morse in the John Adams series was by far the very best.
Posted by: Ben Had

Concur. The resemblance was startling.

Posted by: Auspex at July 04, 2026 12:51 PM (Y8DZL)

126 I would be OK with all of the full-time cops being disarmed, and having to call out the militia/posse if violence is needed.

I'd argue that cops should only be allowed to carry the same weapons citizens are since they are just citizens, not military.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:51 PM (sKqQm)

127 112 The number one longevity treatment is still...don't do drugs or drink to excess and get exercise to stay thin-ish with some muscle
Posted by: 18-1
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Healthy diet.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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It's still probably 80% genetic.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 04, 2026 12:46 PM (XvL8K)
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I would not be surprised to see a more complete application of "sound" based medical treatment leading to longevity. Imagine if you could calibrate sound down to atomic weight to create resonate tones (like the reverberation you hear of the tiles when singing in the shower). If they can calibrate precisely enough and focus that resonate tone for specific targets, you can say goodbye to the barbaric (non-discriminating) radiation and chemotherapy treatments.

Or so my imagination suggests.

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2026 12:53 PM (dIske)

128 >>Red-headed, fit, and 6'2" back in the 1700's.

6'8" and weighed a ton.

He saved children but not the British children.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 12:54 PM (viF8m)

129 113 I am going to play classical music and keep the TV on tonight for the animals because we are going into Fairhope proper for the concert and fireworks display on the bluff. Normally we just watch it from the pier here and can get a little view of Fairhope, Dauphin Island, and Mobile depending on cloud cover. But I want to hear the orchestra this year, it’s special.
Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2026 12:47 PM (OoFl2)

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Good plan. Fortunately, I'm out in a rural area, so the explosions are rare. But even a faint sound is enough to make the younger dog seek shelter.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 12:55 PM (91q/g)

130 Steven Hayward: The Week in Pictures: Sophia and the 4th

And now Rubio has to take over as WNBA pointer. He's such a busy guy.

Posted by: Wears a lot of hats, uniforms, and jerseys at July 04, 2026 12:55 PM (TbWk/)

131 Why is it the historical places you never see are the ones you can walk to?
Finally did.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 12:56 PM (Ia/+0)

132 A nice post about America from the man known as Law Dog:

https://tinyurl.com/3sy73xbj

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 12:56 PM (/k3in)

133
I was told by a guide at Mt Vernon that while most depictions of George Washington show him with a powdered wig, he was actually a red head.
Posted by: SMOD

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I'll never understand why wearing fake old-people's hair was supposed to enhance your appearance.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 12:56 PM (mmrXZ)

134 . If they can calibrate precisely enough and focus that resonate tone for specific targets,...
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Hmm. The Brown Note comes to mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 12:57 PM (XeU6L)

135 Washington was the irreplaceable man.

We had a number of great philosophical thinkers to argue why we should break with Britain and what sort of government is natural and right for a Judeo-Christian civilization but Washington is likely singular in having the organizational abilities he had, the natural charisma to make people want to follow him, AND no desire to get himself a crown.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:57 PM (sKqQm)

136
In spite of all our differences, it's heartening to see America come together and celebrate Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce come together as a happily married couple at Madison Square Garden; disappointed there's seemingly no live coverage or pay per view but am hopeful a video will be available for purchase soon!

Posted by: Auspex at July 04, 2026 12:58 PM (Y8DZL)

137 I lived in Cody WY. I was 10 years old in 1976. Every year the town has the Stampede. a three day event with parades, rodeos, gunfight reenactments, concerts, picnics, fireworks. For a small town, they did it up right. John Wayne was grand marshal that year.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trumpy can do magic at July 04, 2026 12:58 PM (0aYVJ)

138 I know how that old hippie feels. I remember the Bicentennial very well, esp. being 8 y.o. inside the Beltway (just inside the Beltway; could walk to it). Now. Yikes.

Posted by: Franklin Delano Milankovich at July 04, 2026 12:59 PM (DZ9Lv)

139 I went out to Assateague this morning: hot, humid, barely a zephyr. VB must be worse. I will hit the carnival rides @6 and then back out for the fireworks.
Too damn hot

Posted by: Accomack at July 04, 2026 12:59 PM (GbONR)

140 drew Indians like they'd never seen an Indian before.
Or a gladiator movie

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 12:59 PM (Kt19C)

141 From the "NY Post": President Trump appeared on a podcast to read the children's book "President's Play" produced by the White House Historical Society. In flipping through the book discussing his predecessors looks he often referred back to himself:

On William Howard Taft:

"He was our heaviest President , and I have to be careful , because I don't want to supersede his record , and a thing like that would be possible if I allowed it to happen..."

On Gerald Ford building an outdoor pool at the White House: " I don't get to use it. I don't know if I look good in a bathing suit. I haven't had a bathing suit in a long time."

I laughed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 01:00 PM (Nx5jP)

142 Just got back from small-town New Hampshire parade. ‘Murica. Fu*k, yeah!

Posted by: RI Red at July 04, 2026 01:01 PM (WcJqs)

143
Can't believe how lucky I feel to have been born here.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 01:01 PM (mmrXZ)

144 I would be OK with all of the full-time cops being disarmed, and having to call out the militia/posse if violence is needed.

I'd argue that cops should only be allowed to carry the same weapons citizens are since they are just citizens, not military.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 12:51 PM (sKqQm)

Well, I'm actually OK with all of the citizens being able to carry the exact same individual weapons* the military carries.

But if we want to restrict anyone, I think restricting the power of the state and returning some of it to the people (militia/posse) is a better way to do it than to disarm everyone. Might help engender sense of responsibility among the people, too.

(* Limitations for everyday carry based on how appropriate certain weapons - like grenades - are when you're dealing with innocent bystanders.)

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 01:02 PM (kU0PQ)

145 Brown Note
The one Amber Heard?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 01:02 PM (Kt19C)

146 I'll never understand why wearing fake old-people's hair was supposed to enhance your appearance.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 12:56 PM (mmrXZ)

Primarily because 1) "good hair" wasn't as easy in those days, and 2) wearing 'fake' young-people's hair still needed powder to keep it clean and such. (Or so was my understanding.)

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 01:04 PM (kU0PQ)

147 catching the ship Rotterdam - Orson, awesome.
+++
De Trouw (The Faith- they were Dutch) 1660 or so.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 04, 2026 01:04 PM (jPdyB)

148 KT, Happy 4th!
Thanks for all those interesting links. Had to laugh at the old Hippie realizing 1976 was fifty years ago. I was an unsuccessful flower child. Wrong size (think offensive tackle) and the wrong attitude. But I miss the VW minibus. You could work on the engine sitting on a folding chair and enough interior room for some fun.

That reminded me that the flower girl and ring bearer at our wedding are almost fifty years old. When the hell did that happen? Seems only a few weeks ago they were waiting to start kindergarten.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 01:05 PM (yTvNw)

149 133. I'll never understand why wearing fake old-people's hair was supposed to enhance your appearance.

They wore the wigs to cover hair loss and syphillis sores, and the powder was to hide lice.

Three cheers for modern hygiene.

Posted by: Delurker at July 04, 2026 01:06 PM (2Drhq)

150
There is a man who makes music using his chainsaw.

I don't have a link.

People are so creative.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 01:06 PM (/QHx4)

151 Seems only a few weeks ago they were waiting to start kindergarten.
Posted by: JTB
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Very disturbing that the older one gets, the more quickly that time seems to pass.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2026 01:08 PM (XeU6L)

152 Can't believe how lucky I feel to have been born here.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 04, 2026 01:01 PM (mmrXZ)

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And in this time. Unfortunately, there are reasons to worry that there might be a national decline in the near future. Socialists on the rise? What madness!

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 01:08 PM (PEg9t)

153 Interesting about lack of patriotism in Leftists, said easily couple hundred people at this little town celebrating for 250, could count minorities in 1 hands fingers, like 2 or 3.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 01:10 PM (Ia/+0)

154 There is a man who makes music using his chainsaw.

The lead singer for Jackyl did that a lot as well.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 01:11 PM (/k3in)

155 Very disturbing that the older one gets, the more quickly that time seems to pass.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Like a roll of toilet paper. Closer you get to the end, the father it goes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2026 01:11 PM (zYHty)

156 Jackyl earworm now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2026 01:12 PM (zYHty)

157 Like a roll of toilet paper. Closer you get to the end, the father it goes.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2026 01:11 PM (zYHty)


That is an excellent description!
I'm going to use that.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2026 01:15 PM (2WIwB)

158 my brain was already in a jar. stop shaking the jar!

Posted by: Abby Normal at July 04, 2026 01:16 PM (jrgJz)

159 I was in West Africa in 1976. Only link with the outside world was Time or Newsweek, both a week or two old.

Posted by: javems at July 04, 2026 01:17 PM (zFsEm)

160
126 I would be OK with all of the full-time cops being disarmed, and having to call out the militia/posse if violence is needed.”

You don’t want to call out the militia every time some meth head goes on a rampage at 2 am.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 01:19 PM (H8EHh)

161 And in this time. Unfortunately, there are reasons to worry that there might be a national decline in the near future. Socialists on the rise? What madness!
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 01:08 PM (PEg9t)


We shall challenge them in the media, we shall challenge them in the class rooms. We shall meet them at the ballot box and in the streets. Liberty shall never ever quit so that, a thousand years from now, people will say "This was their finest hour and the beginning of their Golden Age."

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2026 01:19 PM (2WIwB)

162 jefferson was a freak, banging the hired help out back of the shed

Franklin was a party animal

Posted by: Abby Normal at July 04, 2026 01:20 PM (jrgJz)

163 Faster it goes. Wth happened there.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2026 01:21 PM (zYHty)

164 Monmouth and Independence Oregon was holding the Independence day celebration, themed on the 1976 winter Olympics, which Monmouth Booster Club had offered to the Olympics committee in 1973 when Denver CO backed out, with the comment that since it normally didn't snow much the city would have to make snow for the skiing events, and therefore should hold it in July when the weather was better.

The logo for that included a cow on skis.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2026 01:24 PM (rbvCR)

165 Dear America, Happy 250th Birthday!

I'm Canadian and, unlike far too many up here, I think the USA is the best neighbor and friend any country could ask for.

I wish I could have crashed the party 'cause it looks like everyone who is not a lefty is having a blast.

Posted by: all doubt removed at July 04, 2026 01:25 PM (Ua1UE)

166 RIP Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. July 4, 1826. 200 years.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2026 01:25 PM (zYHty)

167 If they can calibrate precisely enough and focus that resonate tone for specific targets, you can say goodbye to the barbaric (non-discriminating) radiation and chemotherapy treatments.

The slave that is linked to him did bear a child with Jefferson genetics but it is at least as likely the father was his uncle.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 04, 2026 01:25 PM (sKqQm)

168 I left that dirty sock on all night?

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at July 04, 2026 01:26 PM (DZ9Lv)

169 (* Limitations for everyday carry based on how appropriate certain weapons - like grenades - are when you're dealing with innocent bystanders.)
Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2026 01:02 PM (kU0PQ)


I'm sorry, I thought this was America.

Posted by: Randy Marsh at July 04, 2026 01:27 PM (rbvCR)

170 > You don’t want to call out the militia every time some meth head goes on a rampage at 2 am.
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Unlike the left, we're way, way too tolerant of "stuff." Maybe extreme, but I'd consider shooting the SOB.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 01:29 PM (jehhT)

171 Next should go see my mom, it was her birthday yesterday

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 01:30 PM (Ia/+0)

172
We shall challenge them in the media, we shall challenge them in the class rooms. We shall meet them at the ballot box and in the streets. Liberty shall never ever quit so that, a thousand years from now, people will say "This was their finest hour and the beginning of their Golden Age."
Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2026 01:19 PM (2WIwB)

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Stirring words to live by.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 01:33 PM (VZZtk)

173 In 76 I was a long haired non hippie gainfully employed, paying taxes, obeying the law more or less. And the music was GREAT.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 01:34 PM (LHPAg)

174 Or a nap

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 01:34 PM (Ia/+0)

175 Nood Gardening!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 04, 2026 01:35 PM (NnhvP)

176 I'm stealing that

Posted by: Abby Normal at July 04, 2026 01:36 PM (jrgJz)

177 Or a nap"

Words of wisdom, there.

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 01:36 PM (XuXeR)

178 Words up on my bathroom mirror.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 04, 2026 01:37 PM (sVBn2)

179
The good feelings of America's 200th birthday came to an end with the miserable, anti-American, hemorrhoidal presidency of James Earl Carter. Until Biden, the most embarrassing president of modern times. Followed by, Ronald Reagan and some of the best times. Perhaps Carter gave us Reagan.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 04, 2026 01:41 PM (VWtfl)

180 On July 4, 1976, I and 2 million of my closest friends went down to Navy Pier and watched the Chicago fireworks. What a show! Then we all attempted and failed to get on public transport. The bars made bank that day.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 04, 2026 02:35 PM (SNf74)

181 Happy Independence Day, morons

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 04, 2026 02:37 PM (xcxpd)

182 The Left doesn't give a shit about stolen land. They want it for themselves and will take it without hesitation.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2026 04:21 PM (vE0+H)

183 >>> The Kelce's have donated 26 million across several major non-profits targeting "food rescue logistics," educational outreach, and specialized pediatric medical care including:

Her PR team and agent did a brilliant job of getting that in the news. Christian Toto speculates she did such a massive donation so the democratic socialists will eat her last. Because think about it: they spent ten millions of dollars, hijacked hundreds of NYC police, made a massive amount of celebs fly to NYC in air polluting planes, to converge on a giant complex and make it generate so much energy and cooling at a time the socialist mayor is telling all New Yorkers to turn their thermostats up. I promise you they did NOT turn the Garden's thermostat up. Can't have elite celebs sweating, can we?

I'm grateful when anyone donates to good causes, but she's so ostentatious and performative about her donations. They could have donated it anonymously. She wants the media to forget about how elitist her dream wedding sounds and change the conversation.

What's funny is even among the swifties there's discord, that doesn't usually happen. Their queen's over the top wedding has caused fighting in the ranks.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 04:50 PM (gWBY1)

184 https://jm-dates.net/

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Posted by: JM Date at July 05, 2026 02:04 PM (LG7Ez)

The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival (Happy Independence Day!)

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Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over (Rulz for those of you in Bunker Hill)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate away.
2) Some people need to be reminded, be nice. Be kind.
3) Running with sharp objects takes away from the concentration required to detonate the fireworks.
4) Have a wonderful Independence Day celebration. Happy Birthday America!!!!

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Not only is July 4 of the this year the nation's 250th anniversary, it is also the bicentennial of the birth of Stephen C. Foster (1826 - 1864).
Here is his "Camptown Races" HT - Isophorone Blog

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AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

Prayer Requests:

4/3 – Teresa in Fort Worth posted an update. Her chemo seems to be holding things steady for now. Unfortunately, as she is receiving a steroid, she has gained about 25 pounds. Her blood sugar has also jumped up about 40 points (which only happens when she is on steroids).
6/1 Update – Teresa had a CT scan and has seen the surgeon. Everything looks good/stable. There are no new tumors and the ones that are there have pretty much stayed the same or shrunk. No metastises seen. Additional good news is that she can stay on the current medication, and just alternate it with other meds. She continues to respond extremely well to the protocols. She sends her gratitude for each and every prayer.
6/19 – Teresa in Fort Worth sent an update. Her cancer marker numbers continue to go down; hopefully that means everything is working! In other news, she has started working on another stocking, this time for her grandson, who will be implanted soon via IVF. Prayers for a successful procedure and pregnancy would be greatly appreciated!

5/16 – Tonypete asked for prayers for Jane who is dying of breast cancer, and for Cheri who is in jail (again) for drug related crimes.
6/13 Update – Jane and her husband have sold their home and have moved back to Green Bay, to be with family when she dies.

5/20 – D gave an update on his wife Susan and her continued battle with cancer. Her cancer markers are still headed in the right direction. She is on a new antibiotic, and it is causing some side effects, but it is keeping her out of another surgery, so that is a win. Thanks again to everyone for their prayers. May 1 marked one year since they found out about the cancer, and Susan is doing so well.
6/24 Update – Everything is going well. The chemo seems to be working, but it’s very hard. The prayers help, so please keep praying for them.

5/23 – I used to have a Different Nic could use some prayers as he waits for the results of a biopsy of a mass on his prostate.
6/2 Update – I used to have a Different Nic sent in an update. He has been diagnosed with risk group 2 prostate cancer. It appears to be localized to the prostate but this will be verified via another scan. He has doctor appointments lined up for the next month or so before he starts treatment.
6/23 Update – The latest update is that he has stage 2, “unfavorable intermediate”, which he notes is an awful name, but what it means is, it is in the middle, but bad enough that they want to treat it. It’s more aggressive than previously thought. He is at the point where he has to decide on treatment options, which means choosing which set of pretty unfortunate side effects he prefers.

5/26 – Doof posted a request for prayers for his mom. She is back in the hospital. She is very weak from one or more infections, and is sleeping a lot. She isn’t really talking when she is alert for a few minutes.
6/14 Update – Doof’s mother passed away.

5/29 – Bulg requested prayers for his sister, her husband, their four children, and the rest of the family as his sister is dying. She is in palliative care in the hospital, with a lot of blood clots, and is not expected to last long.
6/14 Update – Bulg’s sister passed away on 6/14. They all could use prayers of comfort.

6/9 – “A” requested prayers for a long-time friend now suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease, who just fell and broke his hip. He came out of the anesthetic really confused. His wife and family also need prayers of support and strength to help him.

6/13 – Dash my lace wings asked for prayers for a friend named Lisa, who was diagnosed with liver duct cancer. She has been in the hospital for a couple of weeks and is afraid she will never leave.
6/20 Update – Lisa has been allowed to go home for hospice care. Cancer has metastasized throughout her body; this looks like the end for her.
6/27 Update – Lisa passed on 6/22, at home, in the presence of family. Thank you for your prayers.

6/13 – Tonypete requested prayers for an acquaintance (B), who has destroyed every relationship she has ever been a part of and spreads hate and torment to everyone around her.

6/18 – buzzion asked for prayers for a friend named Christina, who has struggled with drug addiction and is in jail again. Buzzion prays that this really is rock bottom and a true wake-up call for her – even if it requires her to stay in jail.
6/29 Update – Christina’s family bonded her out of jail and she has checked into a rehab facility. Please pray that she gets the help she needs.

6/20 – bluebell gave an update on grammie Winger. Grammie had some major surgery related to her cancer in March and is pretty much housebound. She said she isn’t keeping up on news since her diagnosis; she doesn’t have the energy. She said she thinks of her grey-box friends often with fondness. Please keep praying for her. Your prayers are a source of great comfort to her.
6/27 Update – grammie winger requested bluebell to let the Horde know that she is hospitalized again, with sepsis, and cannot eat or walk. She is very tired and cannot speak for long. She is being fed by tube. They don’t know how long she will be hospitalized or where she will go after (rehab, hospice, etc.). Bluebell has a mailing address for grammie, so please contact bluebell to send a card or note to grammie winger. Please pray for her, that her suffering will be eased, and pray for her family, who are suffering along with her.

6/20 – Polliwog the ‘Ette said that prayers for Inspector would be much appreciated. Inspector is still in the hospital. They are working on getting his strength up so it’s safe for him to go home. He is more alert and focused than when he was admitted, and he has been able to eat multiple full meals, which is an improvement and will help him continue to improve.

6/21 – B posted a request for prayers. He said that, due to his own shortcomings, and a moment of madness 6 years ago, B has been estranged from his two sons (age 41 and 36). He has tried to reach out and apologize to them over the past 6 years, to no avail. B asked the Horde to pray for their hearts to open, to allow him to properly apologize, and try to be the father he should have been. The boys are losing their mother to early-onset Alzheimers, and B needs them to know that he’s a better person today than he was then, and he can be counted on.

6/27 – Tom Servo posted prayers of thanks to God that his 38 year-old daughter, who was released from a psych hospital this week after a particularly bad breakdown. She has 2 children, which she does not have custody of, but she still sees, and they are wonderful. She has received more professional care, and it appears to have helped quite a bit. She has new medication and a new commitment to living in a way that will keep her from making a return trip to the hospital.

6/27 – George V sent his thanks to the Horde for their prayers. We had prayed for his wife in May, when she had a heart valve replacement, and there were indications of problems in her lymph nodes. She received the biopsy results, and both came back negative for cancer! Thank God for his goodness!

6/27 – “A” sent thanks for the prayers for a family friend, who is at home recovering with the family and doing much better. “A” has an additional request for long-time friends (J and S) who are in the midst of intense family problems and requesting healing, peace, repentance, and restoration in the family.


7/3- Isophrone Blog requests prayers for his parents, they are both elderly and in failing health.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.

2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:00 AM




Comments

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1 Happy Independence Day! Here's to 250 more!

I could have been first but my mental bandwidth was going elsewhere.

Posted by: fd at July 04, 2026 08:03 AM (MWfyi)

2 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde
Happy Independence day

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:03 AM (Ia/+0)

3 So be kind to your web footed friends,
for a duck may be some body's mother...

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 08:03 AM (XuXeR)

4 We're having a potato gun skeet shoot this afternoon.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:04 AM (U/wKW)

5 Heh. I even nooded first. Hello to you, Mis Hum!

Posted by: fd at July 04, 2026 08:04 AM (MWfyi)

6 Prayers up for the horde, and especially for Tom Servos daughter, who carries a weight.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:05 AM (U/wKW)

7 Happy Independence Day to all.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2026 08:05 AM (NXz0i)

8

Thank you to all who served and are serving now.

We wouldn't have our great country without you fighting for us.

Posted by: four seasons at July 04, 2026 08:05 AM (/QHx4)

9 GOD BLESS AMERICA!

May Divine Providence continue to bless and protect this nation and all who love her.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 04, 2026 08:06 AM (ZBho7)

10 May the Lord comfort and aid those among us struggling today

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 04, 2026 08:07 AM (ZBho7)

11 Huck, prize if someone even hits one?

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:07 AM (Ia/+0)

12 So be kind to your web footed friends,
for a duck may be some body's mother...
Posted by: man

It's too early to be stomping around the house singing that at the top of my lungs, isn't it?

Damn.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2026 08:08 AM (NXz0i)

13 Willowed:
Reading Pres Trump's speech at Mt Rushmore last night...does he write his own speeches? It is magnificent.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 04, 2026 08:08 AM (ZBho7)

14 Happy Independence Day.
Turn your AC up (or down, whatever)
Shoot your guns!
Post anti-migrant memes!

Because, seriously, fuck Britain.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 04, 2026 08:09 AM (f0sNM)

15 It's too early to be stomping around the house singing that at the top of my lungs, isn't it?"

Nope. It's a classic.

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 08:09 AM (XuXeR)

16 Yonder Horde

Happy Independence Day 🦅 🎆

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 08:09 AM (jehhT)

17 I recall a UK tourism ad from around 1976 -

"Come visit. All is forgiven!"

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026 08:10 AM (wVcYX)

18 "We're having a potato gun skeet shoot this afternoon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood"

I'm going to let people try to shoot down limbs infested with web worm nests in the pecan trees, using a pellet gun. The limbs they nest on are the twigs out at the end and a well placed shot will break it clean off.

Posted by: fd at July 04, 2026 08:10 AM (MWfyi)

19 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 04, 2026 08:11 AM (u82oZ)

20 The lovely Yuja Wang plays Chopin pretty well, if you are interested

https://tinyurl.com/3ebdc5wu

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:11 AM (mPnrf)

21 Morning again, caffeinators!

Willowed: I believe there'd be a market for aerobicized sandwich making videos. Monetizable, even,
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026


"The Girls of the Twenty-Minute Monte Cristo Workout"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (wzUl9)

22 On Monday I go in for what I hope is the final surgery related to the events of last September. I humbly ask for prayers for the nurses who will have to put up with me.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (u73oe)

23 You people. You have me happy crying with your sweet sweet cards and letters. Ever since I found this crazy place back in 2008, I have treasured each and every one of you reprobates. I can't express the love i have for you as I sit here in the cancer hospital. You're so silly special. Thanks for everything. Love laughs at tumors. Kisses.

Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R)

24 Huck, prize if someone even hits one?
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:07 AM (Ia/+0)
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Instead of sipping, everyone chugs.

Yes, we are still dumb, after all these years.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:13 AM (iTZ6k)

25 Happy Birthday to America.

And to many more years of American Exceptionalism!

We unlocked individual creativity, and showed the path to success to other nations. Who mostly went with the old Stone Age ways of elites and peons.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 04, 2026 08:13 AM (u82oZ)

26 [[[[grammie!]]]]

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:13 AM (iTZ6k)

27
"Well I Declare!" - a limerick

As we celebrate In-de-pen-dence
And hope for two-fifty more hence
I hope we recall
What started it all:
"When n the course of human events..."

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:14 AM (I0N4X)

28 Top picture:

You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (I0N4X)

29 You people. You have me happy crying with your sweet sweet cards and letters. Ever since I found this crazy place back in 2008, I have treasured each and every one of you reprobates. I can't express the love i have for you as I sit here in the cancer hospital. You're so silly special. Thanks for everything. Love laughs at tumors. Kisses.
Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R)

Woo! Right back atcha!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (wVcYX)

30 {{{ Grammie winger }}}

Kisses your hand. You are a very special lady.

And a tip of the hat to the stalwart Rev.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (u82oZ)

31
Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (O0L8i)

32 Grammie Winger!!!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (QykSZ)

33 a Muldoon classic for the day!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (iTZ6k)

34 Article at American Thinker on 1976 to today how America and ( not so ) Great Britain have come along.
England would be the 51st state in economic ranking today

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (Ia/+0)

35 Hey Salty!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (QykSZ)

36
God bless you, Grammie.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 08:16 AM (O0L8i)

37 May the Peace of The Lord be with you all.

A special prayer for a good man , Mayhar Tousi, who is trying to relocate to America. Facing escalating repression in the UK, Mayhar has a Visa to move to the US but that is being held up by our bureaucracy.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 08:16 AM (afJtY)

38 Good Saturday morning, horde!

Prayers for all. Special prayer this morning for all who suffer from mental illness, which is rampant in this country. And for the friends and family members who do their best to keep peace.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 08:16 AM (h7ZuX)

39 You people. You have me happy crying with your sweet sweet cards and letters. Ever since I found this crazy place back in 2008, I have treasured each and every one of you reprobates. I can't express the love i have for you as I sit here in the cancer hospital. You're so silly special. Thanks for everything. Love laughs at tumors. Kisses.
Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026


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Grammie, I'm glad to see you posting! It was you who started me thinking seriously about relocating in, oh, 2019, when you told me, "Come on to Wisconsin! We're nice!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:17 AM (wzUl9)

40 Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R)

Nice to hear from you! We are all thinking of you, grammie.

Posted by: dantesed at July 04, 2026 08:17 AM (Oy/m2)

41 Blessed are the peacemakers AND the cheesemakers.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026 08:17 AM (wVcYX)

42 Ben Had!!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 08:19 AM (QykSZ)

43 I humbly ask for prayers for the nurses who will have to put up with me.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (u73oe)

You got it, Duke. Best wishes and prayers for successful and harmonious outcome!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 08:19 AM (h7ZuX)

44 {{{SMH at God's mercy}}}

I am still happy you moved, and to such a nice place.
Grandchildren are true wealth.

One of the widows has invited me to her family Fourth of July celebration. First time meeting them. One of her ex-husbands will be there. I expect ... a grilling.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 04, 2026 08:19 AM (u82oZ)

45 Have a happy and blessed July 4.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 04, 2026 08:20 AM (QUIEe)

46 - Oh dearest (to me) of the horde, grammie...

I didn't know we got here so close to the same time. Thought you'd been around for awhile.
You are in my prayers so very often. That our Lord is comforting you. Allowing little to no pain.

As to your future, I have no worries. I'd just ask that, as you're walking those streets of gold, you'll give me a wave if you see me sweeping the sidewalk.

God Bless Dear Lady.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 04, 2026 08:20 AM (dAv7M)

47 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 04, 2026 08:20 AM (2Ez/1)

48 SMH, thank you for being part of my life.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 08:21 AM (afJtY)

49 {{{{{Grammie}}}}}

Posted by: Vendette at July 04, 2026 08:21 AM (PrsTH)

50 grammie!! So lovely to see you!

I do not have your address yet - I need to make sure I sent the email to the right place - but I am sending big hugs to you and praying for you!

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 04, 2026 08:22 AM (hPLSE)

51 Grammie, what a wonderful gift to hear from you today.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 08:23 AM (afJtY)

52 Love laughs at tumors. Kisses.
Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R)

Grammie! Lovely to see you have a little energy today. We love you!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 08:23 AM (h7ZuX)

53 Good morning and happy Independence Day. Got a few chores done before the temps reach surface of the sun highs later. Plan to read the Declaration as part of the celebration. Now to sit back, sip coffee, and enjoy a bowl of good burley pipe tobacco.

It's a blessing to be an American.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 08:23 AM (yTvNw)

54 Grammie so good to hear from you.
Hope you are feeling better

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:24 AM (Ia/+0)

55 I'm grateful and blessed by all y'all.


Yes, even you over there.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026 08:24 AM (wVcYX)

56 - BALL ONE!!! CUBS WIN!!!

Posted by: TeeJ at July 04, 2026 08:24 AM (dAv7M)

57 Now our 4th is complete...Grammie is back!

Posted by: Boswell at July 04, 2026 08:24 AM (j10i6)

58 Good morning and happy Independence Day. Got a few chores done before the temps reach surface of the sun highs later. Plan to read the Declaration as part of the celebration. Now to sit back, sip coffee, and enjoy a bowl of good burley pipe tobacco.

It's a blessing to be an American.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026


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Which burley blend, JTB? I'm puffing on some Peterson Standard Mixture, an English -- which is unusual for me at this time of year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:24 AM (wzUl9)

59 Thanks to all for your prayers.

Posted by: Isophorone at July 04, 2026 08:24 AM (bpEno)

60 Good morning again dear horde with thanks to annie, mh and you morons for praying

{grammie}

Please add Mrs. F. to your prayers for a complete and immediate recovery. She was conscious enough to phone late last night and it was a great relief to know she was awake even for a short period. She continues with IV fluids and atb. Further steps and hopefully improvement await the results of lab tests. I'll take Boy F. to see her this morning and then send him off with the kids for the cousin's bbq down in Los Altos.

The caring concern shown by so many morons has been a great relief. Thank you.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 08:25 AM (RIvkX)

61 grammie,

May the Lord keep you in His embrace, and know that we love you so much, and miss you, and will keep your family in our prayers.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 08:26 AM (QykSZ)

62 San Franpsycho

Prayers continue to ascend. Thank you for this hopeful update.

May she be released into your arms soon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 04, 2026 08:26 AM (u82oZ)

63 Happy birthday, America!

May God thy gold refine!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at July 04, 2026 08:27 AM (qrpsN)

64 Madmani: Our nation’s 250th anniversary is a time of celebration and fireworks, picnics and tall ships and family.

So of course Mayor Zohran Mamdani turned it into a lecture blasting America.

Mamdani retold the history of the United States Friday morning as an unending parade of horrors, an unwelcoming autocracy ruled by the wealthy and powerful.


Trump: “As we approach this magnificent anniversary, we see our American identity under a renewed attack,” Trump said in his remarks in South Dakota.

“A generation after we fought and won the Cold War against the menace of communism, there is now a resurgence of the communist menace in our land, including from newcomers to our country who embrace ideas totally opposed to our way of life and our great success,” the president continued.

“These are not mere political disagreements, like differences over taxes or regulations. Communism is a mortal threat to American liberty. It is the greatest threat to our country,” Trump declared.

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Thanks to the NY Post for these reports

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:28 AM (WKesY)

65 23 ... GRAMMIE!!!

So happy you could post today. You, Rev and your family are in our prayers every day.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 08:28 AM (yTvNw)

66 San Franpsycho,

So glad that your wife is doing better!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 08:28 AM (QykSZ)

67 Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R)
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*Forrest Gump wave*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 08:30 AM (RIvkX)

68 Thanks to all for your prayers.

Posted by: Isophorone at July 04, 2026 08:24 AM (bpEno)

A whole bunch of us have been or are going through the same thing, so we're not just going to pray for them, but for you too.

Posted by: Vendette at July 04, 2026 08:30 AM (1ieqq)

69 Grammie!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at July 04, 2026 08:31 AM (DFdns)

70 Have a wonderful and grateful Independence Day, everyone.

May you all have the same numbers of fingers Monday you have today. Party On!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 04, 2026 08:32 AM (u82oZ)

71 nurse asked for prayers for Some Rat last evening. Please add him to your list.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 08:33 AM (afJtY)

72 > Have a wonderful and grateful Independence Day, everyone.

May you all have the same numbers of fingers Monday you have today. Party On!
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Keep an eye on the kids too. Last year there were a couple "incidents" around here with fireworks that lead to injuries.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 08:35 AM (jehhT)

73 nurse asked for prayers for Some Rat last evening. Please add him to your list.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 08:33 AM (afJtY)
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What happened to Some Rat?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 08:37 AM (RIvkX)

74 Hard to keep track. I recall the Boss told you morons to cut the crap.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 08:38 AM (RIvkX)

75 May God thy gold refine!"

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood,
From sea to shining sea!

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 08:38 AM (XuXeR)

76 You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 04, 2026 08:40 AM (2Ez/1)

77 And a happy and prosperous (as in, no fireworks accidents!) Fourth to all of you!

I have never been into fireworks. They seem dangerously without safeguards, unlike a gun, where the metal contains the blast. Instead there's *cardboard* around the powder? No, I don't think Homie gonna play dat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:40 AM (wzUl9)

78 What happened to Some Rat?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 08:37 AM (RIvkX)

She didn't say--she requested prayers for "mind, body, and soul." I pray that whatever difficulties he's having, the Lord carries him through.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 08:40 AM (h7ZuX)

79 Reading Pres Trump's speech at Mt Rushmore last night...does he write his own speeches? It is magnificent.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 04, 2026 08:08 AM (ZBho7)


As you might expect, Althouse treated the speech with snark and dismissal.

Mamdami's blasphemy? Not a word of disapproval from that wine box drunk.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 04, 2026 08:40 AM (qRla/)

80 Grammie! Happy Independence Day!

You, dear lady, who pray for so many others, may you find strength and happiness on this and every day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 04, 2026 08:41 AM (qRla/)

81 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.  As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, forever.  Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.  Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.  Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 08:43 AM (ZOv7s)

82 I'm back and cleaned up after my thirty-minute walk down to the trail, around it, and back.

Someone here pointed out that I could walk in the A/C at the local mall. It opens at ten. Two or three days a week, I could have a light breakfast and maybe some fruit around eight, drive over for ten, put in a couple of miles (ca. forty minutes), and head back for lunch. Two of the other days I could force myself out for a mile's walk/run in the heat in my neighborhood. (The mall cops probably won't want me trotting in the mall.)

5x a week without risking heat exhaustion. Sounds good to me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:44 AM (wzUl9)

83 Grammie winger
May God bless you and keep you.

2008? Wow! You beat me here by about a year. A lot of water under a lot of bridges in that time. Lots of ups and downs for all of us!

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:44 AM (I0N4X)

84 Thank you dmlw. That sounds pretty serious.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 08:44 AM (RIvkX)

85 As I see it, this Fourth of July should be as much a celebration of our history as a declaration of war against Leftism, Islam, political corruption and financial profligacy.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 04, 2026 08:44 AM (fZiTB)

86
By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood,
And fired the shot heard round the world.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 04, 2026 08:45 AM (/+uur)

87 A.H. Lloyd, how is your wife?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 08:45 AM (afJtY)

88 I had mentioned that I was planning to attend a Glorious Fourth celebration in the next town over today, but I have decided not to. Since I live in Maskachusetts, I'm expecting the event would be poisoned with a bunch of TDS loonies. Additionally, I only wanted to go because it's taking place at a colonial graveyard that is only open once a year and I wanted to get inside the little chapel on the grounds, but I'm certain they won't open the place up. I'll have to find another way in.

So I'll just drive to the dairy for some fresh milk, come home and at some point watch 1776.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 04, 2026 08:46 AM (qRla/)

89 Prayers for all

Posted by: Halfhand at July 04, 2026 08:46 AM (HUfR7)

90 I've been here reading since about 2010, and posting since 2011. Grammie has always been here . . . and I hope, always will!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:47 AM (wzUl9)

91 5x a week without risking heat exhaustion. Sounds good to me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:44 AM (wzUl9)
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We have a mall that opens at 10 even though most of the stores open at 11, for people to walk around. The bakery and coffee places are open. It's a like an alternate reality for an hour.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 08:47 AM (RIvkX)

92 You people. You have me happy crying with your sweet sweet cards and letters. Ever since I found this crazy place back in 2008, I have treasured each and every one of you reprobates. I can't express the love i have for you as I sit here in the cancer hospital. You're so silly special. Thanks for everything. Love laughs at tumors. Kisses.
Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R)
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God bless you!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 08:47 AM (ZOv7s)

93 I love the Jimi Hendrix guitar instrumental of the Star Spangled Banner from the Woodstock album. However, I could do without the screeching sounds after the moments representing “the rockets’ red glare”, and “bombs bursting in air”.
If the Hendrix estate authorized an edited version of the recording for public use,it would make a pretty nice preamble to a sport event, if a proficient singer was not available.

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 04, 2026 08:47 AM (1FEc1)

94 Good morning Horde, thx MisHum.
Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need.
Grammie, great post. Good luck and God bless

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 04, 2026 08:48 AM (itsE0)

95 Huck- so how does that work? Do you launch a spud from the cannon and try to hit it with a shotgun? Or do you launch a clay pigeon and try to blast it with the spud gun?

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:49 AM (I0N4X)

96 We have a mall that opens at 10 even though most of the stores open at 11, for people to walk around. The bakery and coffee places are open. It's a like an alternate reality for an hour.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026


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I'm not sure any coffee places are open that early in my nearby mall. Still, that sounds terrific.

Maybe I'll give it a try on Monday. Miss Linda may want to go -- but she walks a good deal slower than I do.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 08:49 AM (wzUl9)

97 While cleaning out my mom's apartment, going through the baking stuff, I found a box of 100 little flag toothpicks she must have bought for the 1976 bicentennial with some still remaining. 49 cents. That was when the tall ships came in to NY harbor and we watched the celebrations from Atlantic Highlands, NJ.

Posted by: A Nomad Of The Time Streams at July 04, 2026 08:49 AM (niKHs)

98 Good morning Horde! Prayers in fellowship for everyone in the Horde and Horde adjacent. Prayers for this Great Nation, that it's people remember who we are and that we may rise again like the Phoenix.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 04, 2026 08:49 AM (jPdyB)

99 Well, I Declare

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:14 AM (I0N4X)

I dub you the Official Semiquincentennial Limericist of these here proceedings...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 08:51 AM (nbLIj)

100 That was when the tall ships came in to NY harbor and we watched the celebrations from Atlantic Highlands, NJ."

Was across the harbor on Governor's Island...

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 08:51 AM (XuXeR)

101 A.H. Lloyd, how is your wife?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 08:45 AM (afJtY)
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We're waiting for all the lab results to come back. She's healing from the biopsies, which is good.

Prayers for my aunt, who was in a shattering collision Monday. She was hit by a semi moving at full speed through the intersection and had to be choppered down to Grand Rapids for emergency surgery. Lots of blood loss, but she is now out of the ICU and physical therapy is beginning.

This happened during the family reunion, which I traditionally crash with the grandkids and whomever else in my family wants to meet comically distantly related cousins. ("Wait, so, you're my first cousin three times removed or a fourth cousin?") It happened just before I rolled in and understandably cast a pall over the whole event.

And then last night we lost power and my generator acted up. It came back at 2:30 a.m. I think I'm just going to sit still today.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 08:52 AM (ZOv7s)

102 Godspeed Grammie!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 08:53 AM (2Ez/1)

103
I launched a spud into the air
It dang near reached the stratosphare
I stepped to the stage
with my trusty 12 gauge
Now we're making tater salad...wayyyy over there!


Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:54 AM (I0N4X)

104 It might be fun to see Semiquincentennial in a limerick.

Posted by: Limerick Lover at July 04, 2026 08:54 AM (2Ez/1)

105 Prayers for my aunt, who was in a shattering collision Monday.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 08:52 AM (ZOv7s)

How horrible! Sounds like a miracle that she survived! Prayers up.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 08:55 AM (h7ZuX)

106 It might be fun to see Semiquincentennial in a limerick.
Posted by: Limerick Lover
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I just want to hear FJB pronounce it.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 04, 2026 08:56 AM (hPLSE)

107 https://www.frontpagemag.com/
the-patriotism-gap/

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:56 AM (Ia/+0)

108 2008? Wow! You beat me here by about a year. A lot of water under a lot of bridges in that time. Lots of ups and downs for all of us!
Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:44 AM (I0N4X)
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I go way back, and was here for the 2004 election. Of course I didn't read comments at first, just glance through posts.

At some point I read comments, but just lurked. Fascinating stuff. I finally commented during Trump I, which makes me a old newb or a shy Grognard.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 08:57 AM (ZOv7s)

109 While cleaning out my mom's apartment, going through the baking stuff, I found a box of 100 little flag toothpicks she must have bought for the 1976 bicentennial with some still remaining. 49 cents. That was when the tall ships came in to NY harbor and we watched the celebrations from Atlantic Highlands, NJ.
Posted by: A Nomad Of The Time Streams at July 04, 2026 08:49 AM (niKHs)

Great place to see them, too! The tall ships were a definite highlight of the Bicentennial!

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 08:57 AM (nbLIj)

110 I dub you the Official Semiquincentennial Limericist of these here proceedings...
Posted by: Joe Kidd

**********

D'awww!
*blushes*
*kicks dirt*

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:58 AM (I0N4X)

111 Good morning and happy 4th! This seems as good a place as any to post this very brief video explaining the difference between liberals and conservatives regarding fireworks. Enjoy!

https://tinyurl.com/2jc27vtj

Posted by: 496 at July 04, 2026 08:59 AM (DWmGl)

112 “ It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.”

Galatians 5:1

Posted by: Marcus T at July 04, 2026 08:59 AM (LLQU7)

113 58 ... "Which burley blend, JTB? I'm puffing on some Peterson Standard Mixture, an English -- which is unusual for me at this time of year."

Wolfus,
It's the Sutliff J4 burley. Mostly burley with some Kentucky and a light vanilla topping. Fairly mild, slightly sweet and it goes great with my perked black coffee. It's now discontinued but I was able to get the last couple of pounds before it disappeared. Think of Carter Hall or Granger kicked up several notches in quality. I save it for an occasional treat.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 08:59 AM (yTvNw)

114 All right, folks, time for me to head on out.

Hope you all have a wonderful day!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 04, 2026 09:00 AM (qRla/)

115 How horrible! Sounds like a miracle that she survived! Prayers up.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 08:55 AM (h7ZuX)
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Thank you. What is normally an oasis of peace Up North was completely disrupted as notifications went out, some folks drove down to be with her, others arranged shifts and we shifted food preparation around. And here I am, the bump on a log, though my grandkids were much appreciated and had a blast (as they always do).

That evening I called my father with the latest news and he in turn called his brother, who then phoned in and so I guess that's my job - a bridge to the increasingly separate branches of the family.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:00 AM (ZOv7s)

116 Hope you all have a wonderful day!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 04, 2026 09:00 AM (qRla/)

You too!

Posted by: Vendette at July 04, 2026 09:00 AM (1ieqq)

117 > I love the Jimi Hendrix guitar instrumental of the Star Spangled Banner from the Woodstock album.
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There was a NASCAR race a week or two ago that featured a guitar instrumental of that. The guy playing it was probably in his 60's and it was awesome. Just the right about of reverb and fuzz.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 09:01 AM (jehhT)

118 I've got to head outside for some yard work before the heat becomes unbearable.

Thankful to live in the best country ever, and for the tiny little piece of it that God has graciously given me for awhile. May God continue to bless America, and the Horde. Sending hugs and love to all y'all.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 04, 2026 09:02 AM (hPLSE)

119 Powerline week in pictures is up
Some good ones in the weekly funnies

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 09:06 AM (Ia/+0)

120 Greetings, good morning and Happy 250th to everyone!

My wife is at her first show of the day. Her band is going to be performing at a retirement community. She's trying to negotiate the band being able to leave instead of being forced to sit for the rest of the performance.

I managed to get a few things accomplished as well and now I dedicate the day to staying within my air conditioned home and drugging the dogs before the fireworks begin.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 09:07 AM (/k3in)

121 Looks like Men's Metric Kickball doesn't end until July 19th, so some amount of visiting Europeans who normally dwell in a Buc-ee's desert will get to witness the celebrations tonight.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 09:07 AM (2Ez/1)

122 I guess that's my job - a bridge to the increasingly separate branches of the family.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:00 AM (ZOv7s)

That is important.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 09:08 AM (h7ZuX)

123 It might be fun to see Semiquincentennial in a limerick.
Posted by: Limerick Lover


********

It'll Get You In The End - a limerick

There once was an over-eager millennial
Celebrating the Semiquincentennial
In a grand epic fail
he slid down the stair rail
And landed smack dab on his finial!

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 09:09 AM (I0N4X)

124 drugging the dogs before the fireworks begin.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 09:07 AM (/k3in)

Thanks for the reminder!

*sets Trazadone on counter so I remember later. Might as well get the claw clippers and grinder out, too. Two birds, one stone, and all that.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 09:10 AM (h7ZuX)

125 Happy 4th to the Horde! I showed up sometime after 2008 and mostly lurk at this fine Military Blog.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 04, 2026 09:11 AM (SNf74)

126 Wolfus,
It's the Sutliff J4 burley. Mostly burley with some Kentucky and a light vanilla topping. Fairly mild, slightly sweet and it goes great with my perked black coffee. It's now discontinued but I was able to get the last couple of pounds before it disappeared. Think of Carter Hall or Granger kicked up several notches in quality. I save it for an occasional treat.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026


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Sounds great. I have a 2021 7 or 8 oz. tin of Granger in the closet, and should open it now that Sir Walter Raleigh is still giving off that faint vinegar aroma in the pouch.

I finished the Standard Mixture -- there was only about ten minutes' worth left in the bowl after yesterday afternoon. Got some Match Early Morning Pipe going in the same pot-bowl pipe.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 09:11 AM (wzUl9)

127 I guess that's my job - a bridge to the increasingly separate branches of the family.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:00 AM (ZOv7s)

That is important.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 09:08 AM (h7ZuX)
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My kids do a good job at this, they are close with a large number of fairly distant cousins.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 09:12 AM (RIvkX)

128 Spotted a new listing on Realtor that checks most of my boxes. I've written to my agent to see if we can do a video walk-through soon.

The pickings have been slim lately. I was beginning to wonder if I'd see anything else I liked this year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 09:14 AM (wzUl9)

129 Definitely a good day to check the Prayer Thread

Ben Had
Vendette
SMH
AND
Grammie

Blessings on the lot of ye...

and all the other assorted miscreants here as well!!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 04, 2026 09:15 AM (hOUT3)

130 Commissar Hrothgar, blessing upon you .

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 09:17 AM (afJtY)

131 Blessings to you and prayers, Grammie. So good to see you here this morning! Go Cubs go (in Harry Carey’s voice)….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2026 09:19 AM (ugElV)

132 I guess I should wish my California cousins a Happy Independence Day from the free state of Texas.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 09:19 AM (afJtY)

133 Hrothgar!!!

So good to see you!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:20 AM (QykSZ)

134 I hope the ayatollah's funeral provides a target-rich environment for the IAF and USAF.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 09:20 AM (RIvkX)

135
A blessed Fourth of July to all!

A happy family gathering last night and another scheduled today, wish I saw a lot of these cousins more than once a year.

Posted by: Auspex at July 04, 2026 09:21 AM (Y8DZL)

136 Muldoon comes through in all of his star-spangled Independence Day patriotic red, white, and blue limerick-heard-round-the-world glory!

Bravo!

Posted by: Limerick Lover at July 04, 2026 09:22 AM (2Ez/1)

137 All the morons I met at the NoVAMoMe were gentlemen and philosophers, and the Ette's are angels. Prayers are getting longer, thanks for all the updates. Love you all!!

Posted by: Buck Ofama, K4WTJ at July 04, 2026 09:22 AM (z6ONu)

138 Vintage cooking stuff is just as fun as grampa’s garage tools. I’ve a Ball canning jar from the 1930s, mom’s maple rolling pin, assorted cooking implements that I enjoy using too. Griswold cast iron, a pair of boning knives from Rath packing co., etc.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2026 09:22 AM (tXwiM)

139 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 04, 2026 09:22 AM (dmoni)

140 Be kind to your friends in the swamp
When the weather is very very damp

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at July 04, 2026 09:23 AM (3ImbR)

141 olddog, blessing upon you and your family. Happy pontooning.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 09:24 AM (afJtY)

142 Little is working until 6 today, so we'll do a quick dinner then watch the neighborhood fireworks while downing pina coladas. Will spend most of the day prepping for an overnight camping trip on Monday.

Prayers for a safe, enjoyable 4th. Prayers for those requested and those contemplated in Jesus's Name.

Amen

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 09:24 AM (nbLIj)

143 Wolfus - I like the straight pipe briars for some reason. They look a little more jaunty I think. Is there any technical reason to have a curved stem?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2026 09:24 AM (tXwiM)

144 A Solemn and a Happy Independence Day to all.
Solemn in looking forward to keeping this great country on course, Happy that we still have that opportunity.
I think this place represents one of the bastions of hope.

Posted by: RI Red at July 04, 2026 09:25 AM (iaf7q)

145 That’s an awesome limerick as always Muldoon… sent me scurrying to the dictionary to learn what finial means…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2026 09:25 AM (26GAh)

146 Same to you, Ben Had. Gonna be tough to enjoy today. High humidity and 100+ Heat index.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 04, 2026 09:25 AM (dmoni)

147 Almighty GOD, we thank you for America, the nation You inspired our Founders to form. We thank You for the prosperity and comfort we have. But Lord, our sins against You would shame Babylon, Nineveh, or even Sodom and
Gomorrah. We regret our sins and beg for forgiveness so that we can live in covenant with You.
Amen

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 09:25 AM (LHPAg)

148 “overnight camping”

Camping, by definition, is overnight. Otherwise it’s a picnic!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2026 09:26 AM (tXwiM)

149 134 I hope the ayatollah's funeral provides a target-rich environment for the IAF and USAF.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 09:20 AM (RIvkX)

Amen to that!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 09:27 AM (h7ZuX)

150 Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R

Good to see you, my sister in Christ! FenSpouse and I have been praying for you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 09:27 AM (eF17/)

151 That’s an awesome limerick as always Muldoon… sent me scurrying to the dictionary to learn what finial means…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2026 09:25 AM (26GAh)

He both amuses and educates

Posted by: Vendette at July 04, 2026 09:28 AM (1ieqq)

152 143 Wolfus - I like the straight pipe briars for some reason. They look a little more jaunty I think. Is there any technical reason to have a curved stem?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2026


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I prefer the straights as well. In the '80s, when I first tried the pipe, you could smoke at bars and restaurants, and I thought a straight would be awkward to handle; so I bought mostly bents. Some of which I still have, and smoke. A bent is generally easier to clench in your teeth, and supposedly the moisture from combustion stays lower in the stem and doesn't reach your mouth. But if you're smoking correctly -- drier leaf, sipping at the pipe instead of puffing like a steam engine -- the moisture issue doesn't really come up.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 09:29 AM (wzUl9)

153 Wolfus - I like the straight pipe briars for some reason. They look a little more jaunty I think. Is there any technical reason to have a curved stem?
Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2026


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And nowadays I smoke almost always at home, so the awkwardness doesn't come up. I think of a straight as sending a message: "Yeah, I smoke a pipe. What's it to ya?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 09:30 AM (wzUl9)

154 It's interesting to see which houses in the neighborhood have taken down their "pride" flags and which defiantly fly them instead of Old Glory.

We can talk about Marxism, Communism, and various leftist logical contortions and fallacies, but to me it has never been more clear that this is all just a secular veneer for pure demonic energy.

To promote a flag representing unlimited sexual license over the one of one's nation, which represents fidelity to parents and tradition, is as blatant a symbol of spiritual warfare that I can think of. That it is a perversion of God's rainbow just makes it that much more obvious.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:31 AM (ZOv7s)

155 Wolfus and JTB, I enjoy watching Maigret using his pipe as an extension of his body.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 09:33 AM (afJtY)

156 Today marks exactly one month since we moved here.

The previous owners left their flag and flag pole.

Fortunately, the flag is in good condition.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:34 AM (QykSZ)

157 The Paolo, he is not familiar with this, how you say, curved stem.

Posted by: The Paolo at July 04, 2026 09:34 AM (2Ez/1)

158 I hope the ayatollah's funeral provides a target-rich environment for the IAF and USAF.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 09:20 AM (RIvkX)
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I think it will be used for ISR, to track who shows up, where they came from, and where they go.

It is preferable to "disappear" those people, continuing to create a power vacuum and rendering the regime wracked by strife and distrust. Are insiders selling out rivals? Cutting deals to save themselves?

This is why people need to chill. It's a process, not an event. The best regime change is organic, not achieved by tanks and infantry. People looked at WW II, which was a unique event in history and said "yeah, that's a template for the ages." No, it's not.

Punitive expeditions are much more common and much more effective in the long run.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (ZOv7s)

159 Interesting in the year 2026 and our 250 anniversary that DemSocs are selling the FDR new bill of rights as quote unquote Freedom.
Those false rights are now approaching 100 years old and have never ever ever worked even when tried on a small scale.
Sweden, Norway, and the other Icebacks now see that their semi-socialist ways do not work without a very homogenous (race, religion, education, etc) population.
Milton said you can have open borders or welfare.
To expound on that idea it appears you can have socialism or diversity, but not both at the same time.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (/+uur)

160 SanFranPsycho, you are well loved and cared about here. You, Mrs F and Boy F, even that new little one you so eagerly anticipate.
Prayers continue.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (4VH0B)

161 The Paolo, he is not familiar with this, how you say, curved stem.
Posted by: The Paolo at July 04, 2026 09:34 AM (2Ez/1)
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Bill Clinton would know about that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (ZOv7s)

162 sent me scurrying to the dictionary to learn what finial means…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

*************

♫ ♫ ♪ ♫

"It's the finial countdown..."

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (I0N4X)

163 Eromero, my brother!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 04, 2026 09:36 AM (hOUT3)

164 Hi Eromero!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:36 AM (QykSZ)

165 You people. You have me happy crying with your sweet sweet cards and letters. Ever since I found this crazy place back in 2008, I have treasured each and every one of you reprobates. I can't express the love i have for you as I sit here in the cancer hospital. You're so silly special. Thanks for everything. Love laughs at tumors. Kisses.
Posted by: Grammie wingers phone at July 04, 2026 08:12 AM (56y8R)

🇺🇸🎉 Grammie!!!

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2026 09:37 AM (kwV69)

166 {{{{{Hrothgar}}}}}

Posted by: Vendette at July 04, 2026 09:37 AM (1ieqq)

167 The previous owners left their flag and flag pole.

Fortunately, the flag is in good condition.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:34 AM (QykSZ)

Bonus!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 09:37 AM (h7ZuX)

168 Interesting in the year 2026 and our 250 anniversary that DemSocs are selling the FDR new bill of rights as quote unquote Freedom.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (/+uur)
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This is designed to gull ageing centrist Dems into thinking that it is still FDR's party. They have no intention of doing anything other than staging an Anarchist revolution. The template they are using is Spain, 1936. There's a book about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

169 “overnight camping”

Camping, by definition, is overnight. Otherwise it’s a picnic!
Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2026 09:26 AM (tXwiM)

True dat. I used the term to indicate a single, versus multiple, night duration. Got a site at Kissimmee Prarie Park, a certified Dark Sky park..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 04, 2026 09:37 AM (nbLIj)

170 Fortunately, the flag is in good condition.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy


No question about that flag flying at your house!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next Up TX MoMe ~ at July 04, 2026 09:38 AM (hOUT3)

171 My brain is like the scrap bin in a woodworker's shop. Lots of bits and pieces of pine, plywood and particle board, but occasionally I stumble upon a nice piece of cherry or mahogany...

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 09:38 AM (I0N4X)

172 Wolfus and JTB, I enjoy watching Maigret using his pipe as an extension of his body.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026


***
His creator, Georges Simenon, was quite the pipe man himself. So were Faulkner, historian Shelby Foote, and the Ellery Queen cousins. The story goes that when their first novel won the first prize a national magazine was offering in '28, they trooped over to Dunhill and bought two pipes, each with the letters "EQ" stamped into it.

I wonder whatever happened to those pipes. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

173 Formation of Blackhawk helicopters and later AF1 flew over our house last evening. Neat! Happy Independence Day everyone!

Posted by: Archer at July 04, 2026 09:39 AM (wvc0i)

174 There's a prairie in Florida? I did not know that.

Posted by: In my best Johnny Carson voice at July 04, 2026 09:40 AM (2Ez/1)

175 Formation of Blackhawk helicopters and later AF1 flew over our house last evening. Neat! Happy Independence Day everyone!
Posted by: Archer
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One of the few things I miss about living near an Army base is regularly seeing Blackhawks, Apaches, and Chinooks.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:41 AM (QykSZ)

176 Mornin' Horde! Last year I spent Independence Day less than independent, watching fireworks from a hospital bed. Still stuck in limbo, but I'm taking the improvement! (It took our founders eight years to seal the deal, so I guess patience should be a lesson to learn there!)

Prayers for all who need, stated or not.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 04, 2026 09:41 AM (mQbp+)

177 Updates on me: This past week's interviews went very well, they really liked me. Next week we'll see if they liked me _well enough_. One more likely interview round for one of the positions...

Also a prayer request! My grand-niece has not been growing properly. She's... 5 or 6?, the growth plates are fine but no growth in over a year. They've found an intestinal or bowel blockage with the latest tests and she will probably need surgery. I'm getting all this second-hand so don't have a lot of details.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 04, 2026 09:41 AM (aJQbY)

178 A finial is a top of my flagpole, thought I had a picture but don't.
Mine is a aluminum spear point on top a mahogan round wood

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 09:41 AM (Ia/+0)

179 *sets Trazadone on counter so I remember later*

Not bad. The stuff we use contains chamomile, passionflower, valerian root and melatonin. Good stuff so I hope it helps when the explosions start.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 09:41 AM (/k3in)

180 152 ... I agree with Wolfus. A bend, even a slight one, is easier to clench. Since I often prefer a larger bowl, that helps. I have some nice straight pipes but my favorites are Missouri Meerschaum corn cobs. Even their larger bowls like the Mark Twain version are light and easy to clench.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 09:42 AM (yTvNw)

181 Friedman said you can have open borders, or you can have a welfare state. But you can’t have both.

I pointed this out on a message board forum once in response to something and I thought this old leftist was going to have a stroke. He tried to ‘splain how Friedman was wrong, but it was just incoherent.

We don’t lock the doors on our house because we hate other people, it’s because we love our family.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2026 09:43 AM (tXwiM)

182 Family, friends, neighbors, church, you morons, and Country. That's how I see it.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 09:43 AM (LHPAg)

183 God, family, country.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:44 AM (QykSZ)

184 The Declaration of Independence translated into American by HL Mencken:

https://tinyurl.com/yc4pth2v

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 04, 2026 09:45 AM (XvL8K)

185 We are slowly getting ready to see if this anniversary ceremony is a go

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 09:46 AM (Ia/+0)

186 Most of the mountains here are a tinderbox. Hot, dry, windy with plenty of fuel in the forests makes for ab active wildfire season. Open burn ban for the entire state. Towns throughout the Rockies have cancelled July 4th fireworks displays. Smoke blankets the state, my front deck smells like a campfire even though the nearest fire of any consequence is over fifty miles away (Aspen Acres fire >50,000 acres over toward Pueblo). Nevertheless we will gather with friends and neighbors this evening for a potluck dinner and fish fry.

God Bless America! Truth and Justice will prevail!

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 09:47 AM (I0N4X)

187 134 I hope the ayatollah's funeral provides a target-rich environment for the IAF and USAF.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 09:20 AM (RIvkX)

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It may be a risk but they had to do something. He was starting to smell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2026 09:47 AM (u/oMr)

188 Phone saying 87 degrees here, deck thermometer was in sun so not a good reading

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 09:48 AM (Ia/+0)

189 Missouri Meerschaum corn cobs.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 09:42 AM (yTvNw)

?! Those are three words I definitely don't understand together.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 04, 2026 09:49 AM (lFFaq)

190 Blessed are the peacemakers AND the cheesemakers.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026 08:17 AM (wVcYX)


https://youtu.be/NFPIGNua5WM

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 04, 2026 09:50 AM (ExV1e)

191 Not bad. The stuff we use contains chamomile, passionflower, valerian root and melatonin. Good stuff so I hope it helps when the explosions start.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 09:41 AM (/k3in)

What is it? I don't find the Trazadone to be super effective, and when it does start to take effect, Tank gets bewildered. Would love to use something else.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 09:51 AM (h7ZuX)

192 I think that Trump should incorporate into his stump speeches a call for the Dem establishment pols, by name, to stand up against the communists. We know they won't but he should demand it.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 04, 2026 09:51 AM (l26NL)

193 Happy Independence Day!

As for the Ayatollah's funeral, if I were in the IRGC I'd slip my cell phone into the pocket of my worst enemy who I knew would be in attendance. Location services: ON.

Posted by: PabloD at July 04, 2026 09:53 AM (byoW7)

194 Interesting in the year 2026 and our 250 anniversary that DemSocs are selling the FDR new bill of rights as quote unquote Freedom.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (/+uur)
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This is designed to gull ageing centrist Dems into thinking that it is still FDR's party. They have no intention of doing anything other than staging an Anarchist revolution. The template they are using is Spain, 1936. There's a book about it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)


Mad-Manny's little rant about how America sucks and we're on stolen land and we hate immigrants isn't going to help. I thought Mandami was a more astute politician than that. He just made a huge in-kind donation to the GOP.

But he and his DemSoc loons want their Communist Utopia and they want it now. Pres. Trump is going to hang them like an albatross around the neck of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 09:54 AM (ksbjf)

195 It's almost ten a.m., I think it's late enough to mow, now, without pissing off any neighbors. Better get on it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 04, 2026 09:54 AM (h7ZuX)

196 I hear Trump's speech at Rushmore was excellent. If only Mitch McConnell was alive to hear it.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:54 AM (gKWVE)

197 Any excuse to cancel July 4th fireworks will do.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 09:55 AM (Kt19C)

198 Happy Independence Day!

Prayers said for all.

Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2026 09:55 AM (Wmg4n)

199 As for Ann Outhouse, I don't expect to find anything wholesome or useful from in there.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:55 AM (gKWVE)

200 155 ... "Wolfus and JTB, I enjoy watching Maigret using his pipe as an extension of his body."

Good morning Ben Had. (Hope Texas is cooler than Virginia right now.)

It's true. A pipe can become a part of you. Partly appearance, partly attitude, partly perception by others. In addition to the authors Wolfus mentioned, you can add Tolkien, CS Lewis, and Malcolm Guite. I really believe smoking a pipe lends itself to a creative approach and quiet appreciation of life.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 09:55 AM (yTvNw)

201 My previous dog freaked out over fireworks, my current one loves them. She will run towards the smoke and flame. Same breed, but this one is from a hunting line instead of a show line.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 04, 2026 09:56 AM (0U5gm)

202 The real story of the revolution:

https://tinyurl.com/2mxrv6v4

Enjoy today and remember, it's only treason if you lose.

Posted by: AnchorPoint at July 04, 2026 09:57 AM (XY7MO)

203 - God - Country - Family - Friends - Others - self

Posted by: TeeJ at July 04, 2026 09:57 AM (dAv7M)

204 The dogs, cats nor the horses pay any notice to the fireworks.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2026 09:58 AM (afJtY)

205 Happy Independence Day! For 250 years, the greatest nation in the world!

The Boston Pops 1812, July 4, 1976. I remember it well as it ran on CBS nationally. Reportedly, The Pops, lead by Arthur Fiedler, drew a record-breaking 400,000 thousand people to the Charles River Esplanade for the performance.

Something that really struck me rewatching the performance this morning was the cameras capturing a baby and another young child in the audience, now 50 years ago.

Grammie Winger! Another blessing for us on this historical day! Always in our hearts and minds; continuing prayers for you and yours. 🙏

And continuing prayers for God's blessings & comfort for all of the Horde and Horde adjacent, especially those with particular health needs.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 04, 2026 09:58 AM (NFX2v)

206 I hope the ayatollah's funeral provides a target-rich environment for the IAF and USAF.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

It may be a risk but they had to do something. He was starting to smell.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)


Not that he probably smelled all that great in life.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at July 04, 2026 09:59 AM (mQbp+)

207 Greetings, good morning and Happy 250th to everyone!

My wife is at her first show of the day. Her band is going to be performing at a retirement community. She's trying to negotiate the band being able to leave instead of being forced to sit for the rest of the performance.

I managed to get a few things accomplished as well and now I dedicate the day to staying within my air conditioned home and drugging the dogs before the fireworks begin.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 09:07 AM (/k3in)

Have them play Slayer's angel of death as their last song. Having to stick around won't be a problem. They might even be escorted out. Lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2026 09:59 AM (WQBBj)

208 You're a grand old flag,
You're a high flying flag
And forever in peace may you wave.
You're the emblem of
The land I love.
The home of the free and the brave.

Ev'ry heart beats true
'neath the Red, White and Blue,
Where there's never a boast or brag.
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
Keep your eye on the grand old flag.

Posted by: Zombie George M. Cohan at July 04, 2026 09:59 AM (wVcYX)

209 God - Country - Family - Friends - Others - self
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This^

Hi TeeJ!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:00 AM (QykSZ)

210 What is it? I don't find the Trazadone to be super effective, and when it does start to take effect, Tank gets bewildered. Would love to use something else.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!


"Vibeful Calming Soft Chews." We get them from Chewy.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 10:01 AM (/k3in)

211 >>> 196 I hear Trump's speech at Rushmore was excellent. If only Mitch McConnell was alive to hear it.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 04, 2026 09:54 AM (gKWVE)
















Posted by: Mitch McConnell's staff at July 04, 2026 10:01 AM (R+iUD)

212 Colostrum works. You cam get just beef colostrum. I use a product called Composure by Vetriscience. Also, CBD oil works if you need something stronger.. and one last one, Amber Naturalz makes something called Aches and Discomforts. Tends to make them sleepy. All these are for dogs, although cats can take colostrum.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2026 10:01 AM (bkuEU)

213 Paolo, it's called Peyronie's disease. There's treatments for it.

Posted by: AnchorPoint at July 04, 2026 10:01 AM (XY7MO)

214 From PowerLine Funnies:

"Put a communist in a helicopter and he will fly for a few hours. Throw him out of a helicopter and he will fly for the rest of his life'. -Augusto Pinochet.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 04, 2026 10:03 AM (l26NL)

215 The Missouri Meerschaum Corn Cobs were very popular musicians on the early episodes of Hee Haw.

Posted by: Back in the day at July 04, 2026 10:03 AM (2Ez/1)

216 189 ... "Those are three words I definitely don't understand together."

Polliwog,
Missouri Meerschaum company, under that name, began making corn cob pipes before WW I. A play on using the most common material, corn cobs, with the luxury meerschaum pipes and their fancy carved bowls.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 10:03 AM (yTvNw)

217 One of the few things I miss about living near an Army base is regularly seeing Blackhawks, Apaches, and Chinooks.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 09:41 AM (QykSZ)
One of the things I miss was seeing the Blue Angels in F4s, and the memory of pickling one of them coming in low and too fast at Oceana. I as a snuffy airman on ramp watch and did know the Blue Angels were arriving.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg)

218 I hope the ayatollah's funeral provides a target-rich environment for the IAF and USAF.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2026 09:20 AM (RIvkX)
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I think it will be used for ISR, to track who shows up, where they came from, and where they go.

It is preferable to "disappear" those people, continuing to create a power vacuum and rendering the regime wracked by strife and distrust. Are insiders selling out rivals? Cutting deals to save themselves?

This is why people need to chill. It's a process, not an event. ...

Punitive expeditions are much more common and much more effective in the long run.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 09:35 AM (ZOv7s)


The "We've been defeated by Iran!!! reee!!!" people are just so wrong in their assessment that they astound me. Crude oil prices have dropped, UAE has left OPEC and is building a pipeline, and shipping has resumed through the Strait of Hormuz (despite Iran's bluster).

The MOU is not a peace treaty. It's really to let the tankers escape. If you know "go time" has a date certain, would you return? No you would not.

Who's selling oil from a safe location? Oh yah, 'Murica!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:05 AM (ksbjf)

219 Missouri Meerschaum Corn Cobs!!

Slowly I turned. Step by step . . .

Posted by: Moe Howard at July 04, 2026 10:06 AM (wVcYX)

220 ... I agree with Wolfus. A bend, even a slight one, is easier to clench. Since I often prefer a larger bowl, that helps. I have some nice straight pipes but my favorites are Missouri Meerschaum corn cobs. Even their larger bowls like the Mark Twain version are light and easy to clench.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026


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I don't clench my pipes all that much, though. I'm more likely to hold the bowl in one hand even while puffing.

I have one vintage, a straight Keyser, with a bowl that is not very big but which is twice as heavy as my others. I've learned to clench a little higher up the stem when I do that while puffing that pipe.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 10:06 AM (wzUl9)

221 This warning to ancient Israel resonates with me on this day of national celebration, a "feast" day if you will..

"But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream." Amos 5:24

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 10:08 AM (I0N4X)

222 Mad-Manny's little rant about how America sucks and we're on stolen land and we hate immigrants isn't going to help. I thought Mandami was a more astute politician than that. He just made a huge in-kind donation to the GOP.

But he and his DemSoc loons want their Communist Utopia and they want it now. Pres. Trump is going to hang them like an albatross around the neck of the Democrat party.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 09:54 AM (ksbjf)
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The legacy media will leave all of that out and just include the FDR bits to reassure people like my parents that the Party hasn't changed at all, it's that the GOP is now run by Nazis (I mean, the bad Nazis, not the good ones like that nice man in Maine).

A lot of old Dems are in deep denial about the state of the Party, and soundbites like this are designed to reinforce that, and allow them to tune out the other parts as "GOP misinformation." They still think Russiagate is real, Hunter Biden's laptop was fake, and that J6 killed cops.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

223 The real story of the revolution:

https://tinyurl.com/2mxrv6v4"

AMERICA!!!

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 10:09 AM (XuXeR)

224 ***Peeks in, sees all is well, sends good vibes, withdraws***

Posted by: TRex - low key dino at July 04, 2026 10:09 AM (IQ6Gq)

225 'Murrica, fuck yeah!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 04, 2026 10:09 AM (Kt19C)

226 Good morning Horde.

God Bless the USA .

So lovely to see grammie this morning. Prayers in abundance for all of the Horde and their loved ones, especially Some Rat and Mrs Franpyscho.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 04, 2026 10:09 AM (ibDUx)

227 Forgot to mention that my shirt of the day is the red one with the phrase "Unapologetically American." Had to put it on before my wife stole it.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 10:09 AM (/k3in)

228 I've learned to clench a little higher up"

Ahem.

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 10:10 AM (XuXeR)

229 "Vibeful Calming Soft Chews." We get them from Chewy.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 04, 2026 10:01 AM (/k3in)
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I heard that Vibeful Calming Soft Chews are now touring with The Osmonds on the casino circuit.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

230 It's true. A pipe can become a part of you. Partly appearance, partly attitude, partly perception by others. In addition to the authors Wolfus mentioned, you can add Tolkien, CS Lewis, and Malcolm Guite. I really believe smoking a pipe lends itself to a creative approach and quiet appreciation of life.
Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026


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It does. In a fast-paced, "get it done yesterday" world, sitting with a pipe -- or even strolling outdoors with one -- is an oasis of calm.

Tolkien apparently liked Capstan Blue, a Virginia, and Lewis a blend called Three Nuns. You can still buy them, though they are no longer cheap, and TN has changed components, so it's not really the same blend.

Faulkner was apparently a Dunhill (now Peterson) My Match 965 fan, an English blend.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 10:10 AM (wzUl9)

231
O beautiful for pilgrim feet,
Whose stern, impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self control,
Thy liberty in law.

Posted by: The second verse at July 04, 2026 10:11 AM (2Ez/1)

232 "My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills;
My heart with rapture thrills
Like that above."

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 10:12 AM (XuXeR)

233 But he and his DemSoc loons want their Communist Utopia and they want it now. Pres. Trump is going to hang them like an albatross around the neck of the Democrat party.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 09:54 AM (ksbjf)
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The legacy media will leave all of that out and just include the FDR bits to reassure people like my parents that the Party hasn't changed at all, it's that the GOP is now run by Nazis (I mean, the bad Nazis, not the good ones like that nice man in Maine).

A lot of old Dems are in deep denial about the state of the Party, and soundbites like this are designed to reinforce that, and allow them to tune out the other parts as "GOP misinformation." They still think Russiagate is real, Hunter Biden's laptop was fake, and that J6 killed cops.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)


True, but we have very Lefty partisan Democrats like James Carville and Rahm Emanuel publicly saying that the DemSoc loons are American-hating retards. (Of course, Carville and Emanuel are really upset that the DemSoc loons are spilling beans about the Democrat party -- it's Communist in all but name for decades)

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:14 AM (ksbjf)

234 Mad-Manny's little rant about how America sucks and we're on stolen land and we hate immigrants isn't going to help. I thought Mandami was a more astute politician than that. He just made a huge in-kind donation to the GOP.
....

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

I'm very stute!

Posted by: Madman Mamdani at July 04, 2026 10:14 AM (wVcYX)

235 Fair amount of people out here

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 10:14 AM (qXs2h)

236 Rock, flag and eagle!!!

Posted by: Charlie Kelly at July 04, 2026 10:15 AM (l26NL)

237 Our fathers’ God, to Thee,
Author of liberty,
To Thee we sing;
Long may our land be bright
With freedom’s holy light;
Protect us by Thy might,
Great God, our King.

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 10:15 AM (XuXeR)

238 The "We've been defeated by Iran!!! reee!!!" people are just so wrong in their assessment that they astound me.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:05 AM (ksbjf)
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It's amazing to me how many "conservatives" have outed themselves as mercenary shills (and dim ones at that) over the past year.

It has nothing to do with the policies per se, it's the complete lack of any reasoning ability to reach their conclusions.

I mean, expect Dems to be incoherent idiots, but this whole business of making up objectives we never had and then pointing to our failure to achieve these fantasies as some sort of failure is really amazing.

A bunch of it is about disqualifying Vance. By claiming Iran is a failure and then tying it to him, they figure they can knock him out of 2028.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)

239 > "Vibeful Calming Soft Chews."
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Trademarked by Cheech and Chong.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2026 10:15 AM (jehhT)

240 May the Lord hear the needs of the Horde.
And may the Horde have a blessed 4th.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 04, 2026 10:15 AM (NnhvP)

241 Miss Linda and I are going to survey the nearby mall as regards walking conditions. The stores will probably be open today at eleven. If we get there about ten we can see what it's like for walking.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 10:16 AM (wzUl9)

242
O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved,
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine,
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry gain divine.

Posted by: The third verse at July 04, 2026 10:16 AM (2Ez/1)

243 >>One of the things I miss was seeing the Blue Angels in F4s, and the memory of pickling one of them coming in low and too fast at Oceana. I as a snuffy airman on ramp watch and did know the Blue Angels were arriving.

Prior to the lockdowns they used to hold an air show at Quonset every year. It was pretty cool to have them roar overhead going up the bay.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:17 AM (viF8m)

244 Fair amount of people out here
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 10:14 AM (qXs2h)
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The celebration started of slow, but going to stores and walking around, people are really getting into the patriotic spirit. Driving Up North and back I listened to a lot of radio and it was all about celebrations, and all the commercials were patriotic themed.

The corporations are catching up bigly, and I don't think it's going to end today. I think people are getting a kick out of holding their heads up again and not having to say sorry for everything. Freedom is intoxicating, and highly contagious.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:19 AM (ZOv7s)

245 It's amazing to me how many "conservatives" have outed themselves as mercenary shills (and dim ones at that) over the past year.

It has nothing to do with the policies per se, it's the complete lack of any reasoning ability to reach their conclusions.

I mean, expect Dems to be incoherent idiots, but this whole business of making up objectives we never had and then pointing to our failure to achieve these fantasies as some sort of failure is really amazing.

A bunch of it is about disqualifying Vance. By claiming Iran is a failure and then tying it to him, they figure they can knock him out of 2028.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)


I've noticed the animus against Vice Pres. Vance, too. I've never found him to utter anything other than his honest appraisal -- I don't have to agree with him.

However, we've had a regular commenter declare that Vance is just as deceitful as Hillary Clinton -- an assessment that is so far removed from reality, it makes me question his motives.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:19 AM (ksbjf)

246 Huck- so how does that work? Do you launch a spud from the cannon and try to hit it with a shotgun? Or do you launch a clay pigeon and try to blast it with the spud gun?
Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 08:49 AM (I0N4X)
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Normally, we throw a frisbee and try to hit it with potato guns. Today, we have a crack shot with us and so we're going to experiment with firing a potato across the field (as if from a skeet house) and see if he can hit it. The boys are making the guns right now!

I'm pretty confident none of us will hit anything but potato guns are a lot of fun.

Afterwards we are turning pyro and firing off some fireworks, so big day!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 10:20 AM (2pEo+)

247 It's not complicated.

https://tinyurl.com/ynxnfj9y

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 10:20 AM (ndZc7)

248 Bone-in ribeyes (Choice) @ $6.47/lb at HEB.
Fresh corn 5 for $1
Half gallon ice cream $4.98
Peaches 97 cents / lb

Texas!
'Murrica!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026 10:20 AM (wVcYX)

249 Good morning Hordemates!
Happy birthday America!!!
Prayers for those in need and may God bless this great nation.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2026 10:21 AM (2WIwB)

250 Billionaire taxes to start at $50 M.
Bet it hits 5M before 2028.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 04, 2026 10:22 AM (/+uur)

251 Bone-in ribeyes (Choice) @ $6.47/lb at HEB.

Posted by: Count de Monet
____________

I hope you cleaned them out at that price.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 04, 2026 10:23 AM (XvL8K)

252 Hello, Horde! 😊💕🇺🇸🗽🎉

***waves at Grammie Winger***
Prayers are always headed your way, dear lady! Great to hear from you 💐

Glad to hear Mrs Franpsycho is doing better 💕💕💕

Prayers up for Some Rat. 🎉

And of course, prayers for all who may need them 🙏🙏🙏

My cancer numbers are staying down, and everything appears to be status quo for now. I am now 21 months into a 6-12 month prognosis. I am VERY fortunate to be responding so well to current medications. God is good!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at July 04, 2026 10:24 AM (SRRAx)

253 This being the Prayer Thread, I'm compelled to offer an Obscure Catholic News Update: Earlier this week, the Vatican confirmed that the SSPX's ordination of four bishops without papal approval had caused an automatic excommunication of all the clergy involved.

To be clear, the act itself broke communion; it is not a punishment.

Yesterday, instructions were released from the DDF for those wishing to repent and return to the Church. This includes both the clergy AND laity in the SSPX. An interesting feature is that SSPX priests have lost their faculties to perform valid marriages and confessions. Oof.

The process of readmission is non-trivial, especially for the clergy. The laity can simply confess and be restored to full communion.

I mention this because it dispels the notion that Pope Leo is a squish and/or that he is a Francis clone. Francis indulged the SSPX at every turn. My prayer is that Pope Leo bring this same heat against the CCP.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:24 AM (ZOv7s)

254 Teresa,

So glad that you're doing well.

God is good, indeed!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:24 AM (QykSZ)

255 Confirm thy soul with self control


The Left: What's a soul?

Also The Left: What's self control?

Posted by: muldoon at July 04, 2026 10:25 AM (I0N4X)

256 I haven’t paid much attention to Mayor Mamdami’s biography. Why did anybody in the Mamdani family choose to come to the USA in the first place? Was it primarily “free stuff”, or premeditated destruction?

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 04, 2026 10:26 AM (1FEc1)

257 Happy Independence Day everyone! Happy 250th, America!

Posted by: Dr. T at July 04, 2026 10:26 AM (jGGMD)

258 Glory to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. As is was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Today (Independence Day) is an Optional Memorial in the Liturgical Calendar. May the United States continue to receive the blessings of Divine Providence.

***

I have prayed Rosaries for the Horde's intentions, both stated and unstated.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:26 AM (ksbjf)

259 Islamic scholar in California, Uthman Farooq, has a message to Americans:

“You cannot stop Islam in America. This is NOT your country, this is OUR country. This is the land of Allah. If you want to live in a place with no Muslims, I suggest you go to hell.”

https://tinyurl.com/4msf7kzv

Bless his heathen heart...

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:27 AM (QykSZ)

260 !!!Happy 250th birthday, all!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2026 10:27 AM (X8xt3)

261 252 ... "My cancer numbers are staying down, and everything appears to be status quo for now. I am now 21 months into a 6-12 month prognosis. I am VERY fortunate to be responding so well to current medications. God is good!"

Teresa, So glad to hear that. You are always in our prayers.

Posted by: JTB at July 04, 2026 10:27 AM (yTvNw)

262 Wishing all of the Horde an enjoyable Independence Day celebration! Sis-boom-bah!!

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 04, 2026 10:28 AM (Z/Qq6)

263 >> Islamic scholar in California, Uthman Farooq, has a message to Americans:


False bravado.
Message has gone out to demoralize up on 250th.
Ha! As if!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2026 10:29 AM (X8xt3)

264 I should clarify that SSPX is the Priestly Society of St. Pius X, a group that broke away after Vatican II and its leaders were excommunicated for ordaining bishops in 1988, though this schism was subsequently healed by Benedict XVI.

There has been a back and forth over the consecration all year, and as part of negotiations, the SSPX circulated a statement of beliefs that clearly stated they regarded the current form of the Mass as invalid and that none of the sacraments offered since Vatican II (other than theirs) were valid, either.

So yeah, when you announce you're more Catholic than the Church, maybe take a moment for reflection.

Other fun fact: the rite of ordaining a bishop actually includes a statement that this is done with the pope's blessing. I've not yet seen if they left this part out or lied about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)

265 Was it primarily “free stuff”, or premeditated destruction?
___

Embrace the power of 'and'.

Islam is on the march, and the Great Satan is in the crosshairs.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:29 AM (QykSZ)

266 >>I haven’t paid much attention to Mayor Mamdami’s biography. Why did anybody in the Mamdani family choose to come to the USA in the first place? Was it primarily “free stuff”, or premeditated destruction?


His dada is a professor of Hatred at Columbia.
His mom is a celebrated Hollywood movie director.
They have homes in India, Uganda, and USA (maybe elsewhere?).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2026 10:30 AM (X8xt3)

267 I hope you cleaned them out at that price.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 04, 2026 10:23 AM (XvL8K)

Just the one family pak today - 3 monster ribeyes. I can go back for more thru Tuesday!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2026 10:31 AM (wVcYX)

268 This being the Prayer Thread, I'm compelled to offer an Obscure Catholic News Update: Earlier this week, the Vatican confirmed that the SSPX's ordination of four bishops without papal approval had caused an automatic excommunication of all the clergy involved.

To be clear, the act itself broke communion; it is not a punishment.

Yesterday, instructions were released from the DDF for those wishing to repent and return to the Church. This includes both the clergy AND laity in the SSPX. An interesting feature is that SSPX priests have lost their faculties to perform valid marriages and confessions. Oof.

The process of readmission is non-trivial, especially for the clergy. The laity can simply confess and be restored to full communion.

I mention this because it dispels the notion that Pope Leo is a squish and/or that he is a Francis clone. Francis indulged the SSPX at every turn. My prayer is that Pope Leo bring this same heat against the CCP.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:24 AM (ZOv7s)


I was surprised that the SSPX essentially decided to become schismatic. It pulled the laity into a squabble between different levels of the hierarchy.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:31 AM (ksbjf)

269 >>My cancer numbers are staying down, and everything appears to be status quo for now. I am now 21 months into a 6-12 month prognosis. I am VERY fortunate to be responding so well to current medications. God is good!


Woohooo!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2026 10:32 AM (X8xt3)

270 >>I haven’t paid much attention to Mayor Mamdami’s biography. Why did anybody in the Mamdani family choose to come to the USA in the first place?

His father got a job a Columbia, of course, teaching African political history. He doesn't call himself a marxist either but he is one.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:33 AM (viF8m)

271 Islamic scholar in California, Uthman Farooq, has a message to Americans:

“You cannot stop Islam in America. This is NOT your country, this is OUR country. This is the land of Allah. If you want to live in a place with no Muslims, I suggest you go to hell.”

https://tinyurl.com/4msf7kzv

Bless his heathen heart...
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026


***
* Trump moves Farooq to the top of the deportation list * (in a sane USA, anyway)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 10:33 AM (wzUl9)

272 I haven't made a formal prayer request, but Mama Publius is in the hospital, today is Day 7. Shortness of breath was due to a blood clot. They put her on blood thinners. A small hematoma on her left lower leg became huge and they had to perform a fasciotomy (which required general anesthesia).

The blood thinners are discontinued. Clot risk is preferable, given the circumstances. But the wound care from that operation is gruesome, my friends. I think they're keeping her there until it stabilizes. Meanwhile she's got to keep her legs up. That's going to make her pretty weak.

At this time we don't know what to expect or how to prepare for her here. Hospital bed, maybe? Before this began she was moving around fine with her rollator. I was hoping that could continue.

General prayers for fortitude, please. Especially for me because I decided that today is my Independence Day from tobacco.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 04, 2026 10:33 AM (w6EFb)

273 Prayers for all.

Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: Mick at July 04, 2026 10:35 AM (HFx9z)

274 I had a random thought. The old saw about those who are ignorant of history being doomed to repeat it is a stupid bit of sophistry.

Not that studying history isn't enormously useful. It is.

But if you study it enough, you'll eventually notice that - for better or worse - many of its innovative moments came from actual illiterates, or people with little interest in history at all, and that many of its most unfortunate turns came from the educated classes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 04, 2026 10:36 AM (BI5O2)

275 Prayers up, Miley.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at July 04, 2026 10:36 AM (QykSZ)

276 I should clarify that SSPX is the Priestly Society of St. Pius X, a group that broke away after Vatican II and its leaders were excommunicated for ordaining bishops in 1988, though this schism was subsequently healed by Benedict XVI.

There has been a back and forth over the consecration all year, and as part of negotiations, the SSPX circulated a statement of beliefs that clearly stated they regarded the current form of the Mass as invalid and that none of the sacraments offered since Vatican II (other than theirs) were valid, either.

So yeah, when you announce you're more Catholic than the Church, maybe take a moment for reflection.

...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)


I had not known that they had done that. That was pretty arrogant on the part of the SSPX. No wonder Pope Leo XIV dropped the hammer.

While I have my own dislike of some features of the Novus Ordo Mass as implemented (mainly the rejection of celebrating Ad Orientum and bad happy-clappy Hippy music), it is perfectly licit. It received the approval of St. Pope Paul VI.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:37 AM (ksbjf)

277 Today feels like a Friday to me.

Anyway, flag is up! Coffee is brewing.
Happy 250th, USA!

Posted by: Gref at July 04, 2026 10:38 AM (5rh/l)

278 Happy Independence Day, troublemakers!

Prayers up, Miley.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 04, 2026 10:38 AM (kpS4V)

279 Good morning all
So good to see so many familiar nics but difficult to see people's troubles. Sending hugs to all who need them. ❤️❤️❤️
Remember....
https://x.com/RinkusSharon/status/2073401326562648144?s=20

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 04, 2026 10:39 AM (kJmSS)

280 Article at American Thinker on 1976 to today how America and ( not so ) Great Britain have come along.
England would be the 51st state in economic ranking today
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2026 08:15 AM (Ia/+0)

Bey they have health care and education and 12 weeks vacations and GDP per capita is meaningless since Elon is a trillionaire and every other American is poor.

Posted by: Reddit at July 04, 2026 10:39 AM (2l5vB)

281 "...and that many of its most unfortunate turns came from the educated classes."

Posted by: YD at July 04, 2026 10:36 AM
+++

Hence the phrase: "An idea so dumb, only an intellectual would believe it."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 10:39 AM (2Ez/1)

282 But if you study it enough, you'll eventually notice that - for better or worse - many of its innovative moments came from actual illiterates, or people with little interest in history at all, and that many of its most unfortunate turns came from the educated classes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 04, 2026 10:36 AM (BI5O2)
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Correction: "educated" classes.

They have degrees, credentials but zero knowledge of the actual world. I can't recall if it was Orwell or Lewis that said some things are so stupid that only the educated can believe them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:40 AM (ZOv7s)

283 @277 Like a rotten mackerel by moonlight.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 04, 2026 10:41 AM (G2hPk)

284 Hordemind strikes again.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 10:41 AM (2Ez/1)

285 GB was already pretty messed up by the '70s. They got a reprieve in the '80s and '90s, but the slide into the garbage bin has accelerated since.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 04, 2026 10:41 AM (BI5O2)

286 While I have my own dislike of some features of the Novus Ordo Mass as implemented (mainly the rejection of celebrating Ad Orientum and bad happy-clappy Hippy music), it is perfectly licit. It received the approval of St. Pope Paul VI.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:37 AM (ksbjf)
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I suspect they will become like the Old Catholics, who initially rejected Vatican I and were super-Traditionalist, and now ordain women.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:41 AM (ZOv7s)

287 >>Mad-Manny's little rant about how America sucks and we're on stolen land and we hate immigrants isn't going to help. I thought Mandami was a more astute politician than that. He just made a huge in-kind donation to the GOP.
....


The visuals of that speech were choreographed -- and so farcical!

Dude, you're sitting on the wrong side of the desk, trapped between it and a fireplace.

And his lil' people props, no doubt handpicked to represent all the preferred immigrant nations: why so dour?! Gripping your prop flags like you're not sure what to do with them and looking grimly into the camera.

Whatever image he thought he was projecting was lost is that pathetic display of arrogance.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2026 10:42 AM (X8xt3)

288 Speaking of bad happy-clappy Hippy music, the 2nd edition of the English translation of the Liturgy of the Hours is removing all of the bad music and restoring the actual hymns in the Latin original. The translation will also be more faithful to the Latin.

Effective Lent 2027, ALL priests, religious brothers and sisters will be using the new brevary.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:42 AM (ksbjf)

289 >>They have degrees, credentials but zero knowledge of the actual world. I can't recall if it was Orwell or Lewis that said some things are so stupid that only the educated can believe them.

Look at the new wave of communists taking over the Democrat Party. Virtually all of them, including Mamdani, have never had a real job. Lots of education, zero real world knowledge.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:43 AM (viF8m)

290
I love to sit down and have a beer with Catholic friends and relatives in kid with them in a Martin Luther way about doctrine.

I'm sure it would work that way with Muslims, too. I could envision them smiling and laughing like Mandami.

At least before the Fatwa is issued on my fat white ass.

Posted by: Auspex at July 04, 2026 10:44 AM (Y8DZL)

291 Hordemind strikes again.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 10:41 AM (2Ez/1)
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Indeed.

Orwell's Homage to Catalonia does a great job of mapping out some of the lies that intellectuals bought into regarding Spain (and this clearly informed both Animal Farm and 1984), but if you read it without full understanding of what's going on (which I did back in the day), it's really confusing.

Happily, Long Live Death can help make sense of it, and you can see the logical contortions of leftist as they lauded "Spain's Embattled Democracy" that burned churches, lynched clergy and ran secret prisons and murdered dissenters.

Oh, and the International Brigades were not composed of "anti-fascist idealists" but card-carrying Communists recruited by Comintern. Those few who *were* liberals were liquided, sometimes by tribunal, but often by being shot in the back during action, which saved on paperwork.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:46 AM (ZOv7s)

292 Happy 250th Fourth of July!

"May the wings of liberty never lose a feather."

Rocky turned 50 this year and Big Trouble in Little China turned 40. Maybe will watch one of those today while I eat grilled meat, and then see fireworks later tonight.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2026 10:46 AM (gWBY1)

293 This song seems especially appropriate for today's Prayer Thread: The Battle Hymn of the Republic, by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and the West Point Band.

https://youtu.be/yAqNe-m0a8s

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 10:47 AM (qx7Zg)

294 >>They have degrees, credentials but zero knowledge of the actual world. I can't recall if it was Orwell or Lewis that said some things are so stupid that only the educated can believe them.

Look at the new wave of communists taking over the Democrat Party. Virtually all of them, including Mamdani, have never had a real job. Lots of education, zero real world knowledge.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:43 AM (viF8m)


No experience in running even a lemonade stand, but lots and lots of hubris. Collectivism is demonic -- it requires the commission of the Sins of Pride, Wrath, Envy and Greed. Any spirit of agape' is conspicuously absent, despite their protestations of caring about the downtrodden.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:47 AM (ksbjf)

295
It pulled the laity into a squabble between different levels of the hierarchy.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:31 AM (ksbjf)

______________

There are bad knock-on effects even for those who don't adhere to the SSPX.

- Even those TLM groups in full communion with Rome will now come under suspicion.

- Bishops are more likely to see anyone advocating for the TLM as a potential schismatic. Forget about an expansion of diocesan TLM offerings.

- Those faithful who are curious about the TLM are now going to get scared off.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:47 AM (O0L8i)

296 I'm sure it would work that way with Muslims, too. I could envision them smiling and laughing like Mandami.

At least before the Fatwa is issued on my fat white ass.

Posted by: Auspex at July 04, 2026 10:44 AM (Y8DZL)
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I like the dichotomy of them declaring America's Constitution invalid and that they will replace it with sharia, and...

fighting deportation tooth and nail.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:48 AM (ZOv7s)

297 Wait. I thought Turkey was for Thanksgiving.


People
@people
Patti LuPone ‘Furious’ After She Learns LGBTQ+ Cruise She’s Set to Perform on Is Banned from Traveling Through Turkey
. . . .
Turkey just banned a cruise ship carrying nearly 2,000 gay travelers, including Broadway legend Patti LuPone, from docking in Kuşadası and Istanbul.
Officials called the passengers a threat to their "moral values."
Istanbul police then raided a gay nightclub that had operated for 18 years, because it planned to welcome the cruise's passengers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 10:48 AM (ndZc7)

298 Happy Independence Day, MisHum and Horde!

The early gopher gets the .22, bwahaha!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:49 AM (1z8ji)

299 >>Rocky turned 50 this year and Big Trouble in Little China turned 40. Maybe will watch one of those today while I eat grilled meat, and then see fireworks later tonight.


"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, 'Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it.'"

Posted by: Lizzy at July 04, 2026 10:49 AM (X8xt3)

300 It pulled the laity into a squabble between different levels of the hierarchy.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:31 AM (ksbjf)

______________

There are bad knock-on effects even for those who don't adhere to the SSPX.

- Even those TLM groups in full communion with Rome will now come under suspicion.

- Bishops are more likely to see anyone advocating for the TLM as a potential schismatic. Forget about an expansion of diocesan TLM offerings.

- Those faithful who are curious about the TLM are now going to get scared off.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:47 AM (O0L8i)


Yes, has occurred to me, too.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 04, 2026 10:49 AM (ksbjf)

301 >>Mad-Manny's little rant about how America sucks and we're on stolen land and we hate immigrants isn't going to help. I thought Mandami was a more astute politician than that. He just made a huge in-kind donation to the GOP.


Land acknowledgements make me want to throw-up. I can't believe Indian tribes want this. Seems to me it just rubs salt in whatever wounds Indian tribe activists are still nursing. Activists being the key word.

Either give the land to the tribe(s), pay rent to them, or shut up.

Posted by: Gref at July 04, 2026 10:51 AM (5rh/l)

302 Hey, Patti. It's now pronounced Turkey, eh?
Please make a note of it.

Posted by: Doug and Bob McKenzie at July 04, 2026 10:51 AM (2Ez/1)

303 Islamic scholar in California, Uthman Farooq, has a message to Americans:"

My message to him: 5.56.

Posted by: man at July 04, 2026 10:51 AM (cGjQu)

304 [[[[grammie!]]]]
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 04, 2026 08:13 AM (iTZ6k)

Goes for me, too!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:51 AM (1z8ji)

305 Happy Birthday to the GREATEST country, The United States of America.

Long may you live.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 04, 2026 10:51 AM (OF02a)

306 There are bad knock-on effects even for those who don't adhere to the SSPX.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:47 AM (O0L8i)
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I disagree. Francis indulged the SSPX even as he worked to crush the TLM.

The SSPX is trying to claim a mantle of martyrdom over the TLM, but it is dishonest. The record is clear - their own "statement of beliefs" goes way beyond just wanting the TLM, and there is zero reason for their "emergency" other than they fancy themselves wholly independent of Rome.

I think it actually removes the TLM from the discussion.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:52 AM (ZOv7s)

307 Turkey just banned a cruise ship carrying nearly 2,000 gay travelers, including Broadway legend Patti LuPone, from docking in Kuşadası and Istanbul.



We’re confused.

Posted by: Queers for Palestine at July 04, 2026 10:52 AM (2l5vB)

308 Turkey just banned a cruise ship carrying nearly 2,000 gay travelers, including Broadway legend Patti LuPone, from docking in Kuşadası and Istanbul.
Officials called the passengers a threat to their "moral values."
Istanbul police then raided a gay nightclub that had operated for 18 years, because it planned to welcome the cruise's passengers.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 10:48 AM (ndZc7)
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So close to Pride Month?!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 10:53 AM (ZOv7s)

309 >>@people
Patti LuPone ‘Furious’ After She Learns LGBTQ+ Cruise She’s Set to Perform on Is Banned from Traveling Through Turkey


IT'S FUNNY THAT IT TAKES HER LGBTQ CRUISE PLANS BEING SPOILED TO FINALLY GET UPSET WITH ISLAM'S OPRESSION. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, BUTTERCUP?

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 04, 2026 10:53 AM (X8xt3)

310 Quite a show going on in NYC.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:53 AM (viF8m)

311
From yesterday

"I would like to acknowledge that this meeting is being held on the lands of heathen savages, who slaughtered the previous inhabitants and then grubbed around uselessly before we came along to redeem it and made it productive and prosperous."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 10:54 AM (O0L8i)

312 Farooq you, buddy.

Posted by: We're all thinking it at July 04, 2026 10:54 AM (2Ez/1)

313 Video shows "Minnesota" children talking about how Somalia is the best country in the world

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Hey, I know you all could go there to live!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 10:55 AM (ndZc7)

314 Who names their kid "Uthman?"

Posted by: I gotta ask at July 04, 2026 10:57 AM (2Ez/1)

315 So I'll just drive to the dairy for some fresh milk, come home and at some point watch 1776.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at July 04, 2026 08:46 AM (qRla/)

So you are ceding the field to the rabble, then? Why not go, bearing a stout cane for bashing Commie skulls?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 10:59 AM (1z8ji)

316 I also think that Pope Leo showing that he is unafraid to slap down bishops in a very public way should alarm those prelates persecuting the TLM to the great harm of their flock, especially given Pope Leo's high-profile embrace of it, and advocacy for it.

If the SSPX had just been about the TLM and the old forms and traditions, it would have been fine. They could have found many sympathetic bishops to provide for their pastoral needs and I hope its leaders come to their senses, put aside their pride and humbly return to the Church.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 11:00 AM (ZOv7s)

317 Tokyo Lights up the Sky With Massive Fireworks and Drone Show to Mark America’s 250th Anniversary

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It's only fair. We lit up their cities 80+ years ago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 11:01 AM (ndZc7)

318 I wak up early, and get to see so many faces here that I haven't for a while.

Grammie - get well. We miss your humor! Hopefully they let you watch baseball.

Prayers up for those on the prayer list, the Horde, and this wonderful nation.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 04, 2026 11:01 AM (qx7Zg)

319 Who names their kid "Uthman?"
Ufuk.
That's who.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at July 04, 2026 11:02 AM (G2hPk)

320
If the SSPX had just been about the TLM and the old forms and traditions, it would have been fine. 

_____________

I got enough trouble getting to the end of the day without getting on the Almighty's Naughty List.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 11:03 AM (O0L8i)

321 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 04, 2026 11:03 AM (NcvvS)

322 >>They have degrees, credentials but zero knowledge of the actual world. I can't recall if it was Orwell or Lewis that said some things are so stupid that only the educated can believe them.

Look at the new wave of communists taking over the Democrat Party. Virtually all of them, including Mamdani, have never had a real job. Lots of education, zero real world knowledge.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2026 10:43 AM (viF8m)

No experience in running even a lemonade stand, but lots and lots of hubris. Collectivism is demonic -- it requires the commission of the Sins of Pride, Wrath, Envy and Greed. Any spirit of agape' is conspicuously absent, despite their protestations of caring about the downtrodden.


I jut don't get this argument. I, unlike all the "real world" types you adore, have never failed at anything. True, I've never attempted anything, but my record is perfect.

Posted by: Zorro Mamdani at July 04, 2026 11:03 AM (Riz8t)

323 Tokyo Lights up the Sky With Massive Fireworks and Drone Show to Mark America’s 250th Anniversary

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It's only fair. We lit up their cities 80+ years ago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 11:01 AM (ndZc7)
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Japan's heel turn in the 1920s was a world-historic tragedy. I love that our nations have grown so close together.

Trump joking about Pearl Harbor with the Japanese PM was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 04, 2026 11:03 AM (ZOv7s)

324
314 Who names their kid "Uthman?"
Posted by: I gotta ask at July 04, 2026 10:57 AM (2Ez/1)

Thomeone who couldn’t thay “Usman”.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2026 11:03 AM (H8EHh)

325 Hadrian @311:

Snort!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2026 11:03 AM (2WIwB)

326 >>Quite a show going on in NYC.

Oh, have Mr. and Mrs. Taylor Swift come out of seclusion to greet their adoring commoners?

Posted by: one hour sober at July 04, 2026 11:04 AM (J4Dwc)

327 Allah sounds like a thoroughly unlikeable fake god, Mohammed-if he even actually existed an -envious, nasty, violent war Lord and Islam no religion for women

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 11:05 AM (8Xy/A)

328 Regarding the SSPX, it is clear that Leo, as Francis before him, was never going to let there be new bishops. When the current crop die, no new ordinations of priests.

Leo is a tyrant.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 04, 2026 11:05 AM (qFwJc)

329
And the SSPX stepped over a line that they were told not to cross, the line that would guarantee under any Pope that they'd get what they got. So my sympathy for them in their present plight is now near zero.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2026 11:05 AM (O0L8i)

330 I see, jets of red, trailing smoke of blue
Rockets red glare, and tall ships too
Celebrating 250 as americans do
And I think to myself.......what a wonderful world!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqyrmQbd5S0

Posted by: Ernest T Bass at July 04, 2026 11:07 AM (jrgJz)

331 Poll: Nearly Half of Americans Don’t Know What America’s 250th Is Celebrating

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I think it was the birth of Keith Richards.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and His All White Jury! at July 04, 2026 11:09 AM (ndZc7)

332 A movie I thought about after I went to bed last night: “Climate the Movie”. It’s an updated version of a similar movie put out earlier. It’s a counter to movies like “An Inconvenient Truth”. You can watch it on EweTube:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?
v=zmfRG8-RHEI&ra=m

The Tube of Ewes is rejecting URL shortener links, so please use the above, taking out any spaces.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 04, 2026 11:09 AM (ZVgZ4)

333 - excommunicated. Out of communion.
Does that mean they're going to hell unless the repent to "the Church?" To the "Holy Father?"
I think I've seen that's one of the pope's titles. Along with father such and such for priests.

Matthew 23:9 - And call no man your Father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 04, 2026 11:12 AM (dAv7M)

334 "...and Islam no religion for women
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 11:05 AM"
+++++

Islam isn't a religion.

Posted by: In case you haven't noticed at July 04, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

335 * Trump moves Farooq to the top of the deportation list * (in a sane USA, anyway)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 04, 2026 10:33 AM (wzUl9)

Top of the wood chipper list would be preferable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2026 11:15 AM (1z8ji)

336 Japan's heel turn in the 1920s was a world-historic tragedy. I love that our nations have grown so close together.

Yes, the Taisho era was less militaristic and more benevolent than the succeeding Showa era. But the Japanese had already taken over Korea in 1910, during the Taisho era. Ask the Koreans about their treatment from 1910 to 1945 by the Japanese.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 04, 2026 11:16 AM (ZVgZ4)

337 336 Japan's heel turn in the 1920s was a world-historic tragedy. I love that our nations have grown so close together.
****
In 1945 they tried to kill my dad off the coast of Okinawa.
Now I drive a vehicle made in Japan.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 04, 2026 11:19 AM (2Ez/1)

338 Above, 'Not only is July 4 of the this year the nation's 250th anniversary, it is also the bicentennial of the birth of Stephen C. Foster (1826 - 1864).'

Here is his "Camptown Races" HT - Isophorone Blog

Nice. Thanks.

I definitely had some very early liberal elementary school teachers as a kid near a northern city.

They took us to the UN, the Liberty Bell. They taught us about the Holocaust; branches of US government, capitals & economies of all states, so much more.

SE PA was known as the birthplace of American abolitionism. 🤷‍♀️ Since Northern abolitionists had championed several of Stephen Foster's songs, we were taught them in elementary school. Then they were blended into daily U.S. history lessons (anti-slavery) along with Pete Seeger's songs (If I had a hammer, etc.), anthems for labor and civil rights.

It was significant in lessons that Martin Luther King Jr. had spent 4 years in Chester, PA (Delaware County), 1948 to 1951, studying at Crozer Theological Seminary. Also that Peter, Paul & Mary had performed Seeger's 'If I Had a Hammer' at the 1963 March on Washington, standing alongside Dr. King.

Later came the riots & marches.

Scary back then, too.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 04, 2026 11:27 AM (NFX2v)

339 Posted by: In case you haven't noticed at July 04, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

They think it is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2026 11:30 AM (D+BhG)

340 I was getting ready to report to West Point on July 7, 1976. That meant I flew out of Huntsville, AL, on the 6th to land in LaGuardia Airport in time to catch a bus to Highland Falls, NY.

The past is a different world.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 04, 2026 11:37 AM (7iEFu)

341 This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast, Sister.

Posted by: Allen Jenkins In A Cab at July 04, 2026 06:12 PM (oftw2)

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