1 Good evening all!

2 Yo

3 Yo, WD!

4 Now that is an odd 1st!

5 Gone to fetch.

6 A WD ONT. Just what the doctor ordered!

7 Greetings!

8 Not first.

9 No way they should be doing root canals on baby teeth. What for? They're only going to fall out anyway. This has the smell of an unscrupulous dentist getting rich off of doing unnecessary work on kids forced to see him.

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Big Tooth will always bite you in the ass.

Sorry, NGU.

10 I'm first runner up in case AZ Moron can't fulfill the duties of First!

11 Good evening horde. Have a good ONT. Thanks WD.

12 No way they should be doing root canals on baby teeth. What for? They're only going to fall out anyway. This has the smell of an unscrupulous dentist getting rich off of doing unnecessary work on kids forced to see him.
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Could be worse. At least he's not driving dental implants into their brains.

13 What does that crazy cracker have tattooed on his back?

14 GO BLUE!

15 pay for new construction hires was $48,089 last year, compared to $39,520 for new hires in professional services.

—

What is it 5,10,20 years later?

16 Hey!!
Ok. Back to content...

17 Good evening everyone.

18 13 What does that crazy cracker have tattooed on his back?
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 25, 2024 10:04 PM (FkUwd)


A saxophone, of course.

19 16 content?

20 Willowed on the previous thread, but perhaps worthy of re-posting as the final tally on Australia's Great Emu War of 1932. (yes, this really happened)

I'm sure that Ben Had could clean up on the emus, as she has done on the feral hogs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

She certainly couldn't do worse - one account read that"

"The machine-gunners' dreams of point blank fire into serried masses of Emus were soon dissipated. The Emu command had evidently ordered guerrilla tactics, and its unwieldy army soon split up into innumerable small units that made use of the military equipment uneconomic. A crestfallen field force therefore withdrew from the combat area after about a month."

Major Meredith's detachment reported that they had fired 12,630 rounds of ammunition, with no casualties on their side. The conservative estimate is that they killed a little north of 900 emus.

21 I wouldn't fight saxophone guy. No way.

22 The EMP link led to ZeroHedge, which is OK by me, but then that led to a a video. We need a text summary.

My take on EMP? When it happens, old farts like me who know how to get shit done without a a bunch of digital assistance, are going to be in big demand.

"yeah, I can make your gas pump work, and I can even make the counter work to some extent. But your customer is going to pump 25,842 counts, and you are going to have to sit down and do the math to convert that to 18.5 gallons."

23 A saxophone, of course.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 25, 2024 10:05 PM (RUMEY)
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"Of course".

Could be a sackbut(t).

24 Historic Vids @historyinmemes
Bro accidentally passed the test
https://tinyurl.com/yhu2e7ys
24 seconds

25 ONTherapy. A good thing.

*pours bourbon* ONT Greetings, Horde. CHEERS!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

26 How to win a fight is hysterical. Thanks WD

27 23 A saxophone, of course.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 25, 2024 10:05 PM (RUMEY)
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"Of course".

Could be a sackbut(t).
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 25, 2024 10:10 PM (FkUwd)

Nope. Pretty sure that's a reed instrument.

28 I wouldn't fight saxophone guy. No way.
Posted by: Cicero

Remember that dog that carries a flame thrower?

29 Mongol.Moon is a good read.

30 Evenin'

https://youtu.be/v4G_0A8Cdkw?si=3AE-ERSCBnzGqzS0

31 Major Meredith's detachment reported that they had fired 12,630 rounds of ammunition, with no casualties on their side. The conservative estimate is that they killed a little north of 900 emus.
Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at April 25, 2024 10:08 PM (+OBLx)

If I were tasked with killing emus wholesale, I'd be looking at shotgun slugs, loaded 2 to a round, linked with a foot of piano wire. Aim the neck, aim for the legs, don't matter. Once the critter is down, a head shot confirms the kill. And no meat spoiled. Emus be yummy.

32 “Sackbut” is a great word.

33 I see the Dems lost a House member. Looks like due to the clot shot.

34 That school dental story IS insane. I'd like to place a small wager on the dentist being of the, ahem, trans/LGBTQWERTY agenda pushing variety. And don't think it can't happen in Kentucky. Look at those West Virginia schoolgirls who didn't want to compete against a trans in the shot put so didn't.

I don't trust schools anywhere in this country to be honest, forthright and dedicated to educating children in the three R's, not the three best sex positions for anal.

35 Surely there's an arcade game where you can machine gun emus. Seems like a no-brainer.

36 Emus and ostriches. Mean fucking birds.

37 32 “Sackbut” is a great word.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 10:13 PM (9yWhg

So is fartlek.

38 'In an EMP scenario, everybody is still here, but nothing works, and nothing is going to work. Scary stuff.'

I'm kinda that person who reads, and actually digs, apocalyptic stories.
I suppose it can sort of prepare one for the reality that may be just around the corner....😒

39 17 Hey, Tonypete.

40 If I were tasked with killing emus wholesale, I'd be looking at shotgun slugs, loaded 2 to a round, linked with a foot of piano wire. Aim the neck, aim for the legs, don't matter. Once the critter is down, a head shot confirms the kill. And no meat spoiled. Emus be yummy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

And just, may I ask, what is wrong with using combines?

41

Alicia McQueen, Never Give Up!

42 36 Emus and ostriches. Mean fucking birds.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 25, 2024 10:14 PM (R4t5M)

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Their problem is, evolutionarily speaking, they're too close to velociraptors.

43 “Sackbut” is a great word.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 10:13 PM (9yWhg)


As opposed to Butsacks...

44 I'd napalm the bastards from a helicopter!

45 If everything goes tits up in an EMP, I'm definitely starting a cult.

46 Surely there's an arcade game where you can machine gun emus. Seems like a no-brainer.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 25, 2024 10:14 PM (FkUwd)
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Far Cry 3 lets you machine gun cassowaries. Another type of vicious flightless bird...

47 And just, may I ask, what is wrong with using combines?
Posted by: Some Rat at April 25, 2024 10:15 PM (vJiyU)

They might run away. Conglomerates, on the other hand...

48 And just, may I ask, what is wrong with using combines?

Posted by: Some Rat at April 25, 2024 10:15 PM (vJiyU)

Sure, if you want emuburgers.

49 Back when I was a kid, a visit to the dentist that resulted in cavities or unnecessary work was, as my mother would tell the dentist... "this month's Mercedes payment."

She wasn't wrong.

50 WD, if you are here, on one of the morning threads, Wolfus Aurelius, one of our stalwart daywalkers from New Orleans, had questions about medial insurance. We recommended he get in touch with you.

51 Back when I was a kid, a visit to the dentist that resulted in cavities or unnecessary work was, as my mother would tell the dentist... "this month's Mercedes payment."

She wasn't wrong.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 25, 2024 10:19 PM (Q4IgG)

Methinks the dentist linked above is perusing yacht catalogs.

52 Cassowaries are supposed to be real dicks.

Wonder if somebody is going to bring back moa birds.

53 Wait kids get free dental cate now in school?

54 "One Second After" is a terrific post-EMP novel. And scary as hell.

55 50 Thanks, AOP. I had forgotten about that.

56
Everything You Need To Know About EMPs From A NASA Expert

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Zero Hedge, for whatever that's worth.

57 Wonder if somebody is going to bring back moa birds.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 25, 2024 10:21 PM (FkUwd)

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They're finished. Like smallpox.

Why would anyone beside Fauci ever want to bring them back?

58 If I were tasked with killing emus wholesale, I'd be looking at shotgun slugs, loaded 2 to a round, linked with a foot of piano wire. Aim the neck, aim for the legs, don't matter. Once the critter is down, a head shot confirms the kill. And no meat spoiled. Emus be yummy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Far more rational - the bean counters at Australia's MOD worked out that it took 9 rounds for every emu taken down. It's still astounding, given that these guys were WWI vets of heavy trench warfare, using state-of-the-art weapons, and were backed up by local farmers in an auxiliary capacity, many of those farmers also being WWI vets. PM Joseph Lyons was teased by the opposition with questions about whether there would be a campaign medal for the participants. Even more astounding is that the Lyons government held onto control in Parliament for years afterward.

59 “Sackbut” is a great word.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 10:13 PM (9yWhg)

sackbut is a traditional name for a trombone

60 54 My wife has read that. She would agree with you.

61 It's so nice to see that American legislators are all in for Ukraine.

What do we need to do to get them all in for America?

62 In an EMP scenario, everybody is still here, but nothing works, and nothing is going to work. Scary stuff.'

...

How fast could we breed horses to re-introduce them on a large scale? I bet not very.

63 If everything goes tits up in an EMP, I'm definitely starting a cult.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 25, 2024 10:17 PM (RUMEY)

———————-

Can I be Director of Compliance in your cult? If not I could head up the Department of Redundancy Department.

64 59 Yep, I know. Speaking as a former trombone player.

65

What do we need to do to get them all in for America?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 25, 2024 10:25 PM (j7aNt)

Start up an American grift of $100b.

66 Even more astounding is that the Lyons government held onto control in Parliament for years afterward.
Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at April 25, 2024 10:23 PM (+OBLx)

...

One of these years I'm going to run for governor of Texas, and my only platform is going to be the eradication of cedar trees.

I will win by unheard-of margins and will continue as governor for as long as I choose.

67 I got nothin'...

68 Wait kids get free dental cate now in school?
Posted by: Montec

And day care and meals.

There is a boatload of graft (big surprise!) in a lot of the programs BUT, some of the kids really need the help. We have grade school kids that show up without shoes the first day because they don't have any. Honestly - don't have any. You can tell because they have what I call, 'Barney Rubble feet'.

We are part of a group that is buying 10,000 pairs of shoes for all the kids in the county for the fall.

69
How fast could we breed horses to re-introduce them on a large scale?

__________

The gestation period hasn't changed any.

70 What do we need to do to get them all in for America?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 25, 2024 10:25 PM (j7aNt)

Start up an American grift of $100b.
Posted by: Montec

Tax foreign grift at 150%

71 How fast could we breed horses to re-introduce them on a large scale? I bet not very.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2024 10:25 PM (z/ifB)

Any cars built with Kettering ignition, or able to be fitted with it would run just fine.

72 What do we need to do to get them all in for America?
Posted by: Cicero

Replace them all. Oh sure, we'd lose three or four whom are decent people but, eggs-omelets - you know the drill.

73
How fast could we breed horses to re-introduce them on a large scale? I bet not very.
Posted by: TexasDan

Lots of wild (nee feral) in the river bottom 15 miles from here.

74 If all it has are windings and brushes, it'll survive.

75 “Sackbut” is a great word.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 10:13 PM (9yWhg

So is fartlek.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 25, 2024 10:14 PM (RUMEY)
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I'm partial to "underskinker," myself.

76 How fast could we breed horses to re-introduce them on a large scale?

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At least we won't have to reinvent stirrups. That'll save about 2,000 years right there.

77 63 If everything goes tits up in an EMP, I'm definitely starting a cult.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 25, 2024 10:17 PM (RUMEY)

———————-

Can I be Director of Compliance in your cult? If not I could head up the Department of Redundancy Department.
Posted by: Duke Lowell


https://youtu.be/vDQEJ06QoRs?si=_rO45CJJuQ9Orgsj

78 One of these years I'm going to run for governor of Texas, and my only platform is going to be the eradication of cedar trees.

I will win by unheard-of margins and will continue as governor for as long as I choose.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2024 10:26 PM (z/ifB)

This. I will vote numerous times for you.

My allergies are so bad this year that I am reduced to wearing a mask in the yard.
Even if people think I'm a COVIDiot.

79 Do horses have integrated circuits?

80 Wonder if somebody is going to bring back moa birds.
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 25, 2024 10:21 PM (FkUwd)

Heck with that, I want to know if anyone is going to bring back the phorusrhacids / terror birds. I mean, 10 foot tall ground dwelling apex predator. Who could object to that?
I bet they could be trained as guard dogs, and maybe even pull small carriages.

81 ...Can I be Director of Compliance in your cult? If not I could head up the Department of Redundancy Department. Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2024 10:25 PM (u73oe)


I will also head up the Department of Redundancy Department.

Because nothing says "Redundant" more than double-hiring for the job.

Leading by Example!!!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

82 Greetings, AoAers. Always a relief to get a WeirdDave ONT. Mad props to MisHum, but it's like here are the texts you need to study before the exam and you'll fail anyway because you're awful and smell like Graboids.

Anyway, hope everyone is doing well tonight.

83 If trolley cars could fly, would elephants have overhead runners?

84 So...DAVE,

Some OTC Antihistamines. Maybe some "Black Seed Oil" if you be coughing much...and some small glasses of "whiskey with lemon."

Otherwise...you can go to a doctor and get their snake oil.

85 Just finished a dish of microwaved General Tso's Chicken. Doggeh was unsure about the excess sauce, but seems to be getting into it.

86 Yep, I know. Speaking as a former trombone player.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 10:25 PM (9yWhg)

Dad was a tuba player, he had a fascination with the Serpent

87 “Sackbut” is a great word.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 10:13 PM (9yWhg
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So is fartlek.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 25, 2024 10:14 PM (RUMEY)
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I'm partial to "underskinker," myself.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 10:30 PM (Be/+i)

Mine is 'tittup'. Strippers are usually very good at tittuping, well, except the bored ones.

88 How to win a fight is hysterical. Thanks WD
Posted by: nurse ratched

I have heard that pretending to be a few cards short of a full deck is a good way out of a fight. Now I have video evidence that it's true.

Or, at least I have evidence that someone else has heard the same thing, and wanted to make a staged video of it.

89
One of these years I'm going to run for governor of Texas, and my only platform is going to be the eradication of cedar trees.

__________

Cedar eradication was a big effort in Central Texas in the 30s. Damn things drink a lot of water and getting rid of them allowed more land to be farmed.

90 Forstchen's "One Second, Day, Year, Month" books about post EMP America are pretty good reads. I've done them all. A bit over the top with the later books, but the original "One Second After" is a page turner.

And horribly disturbing.

91 Heck with that, I want to know if anyone is going to bring back the phorusrhacids / terror birds. I mean, 10 foot tall ground dwelling apex predator. Who could object to that?
I bet they could be trained as guard dogs, and maybe even pull small carriages.
Posted by: Kindltot

Sigh, why not? They've decided grizzlies are what's missing in our ecosystem.

92 "yeah, I can make your gas pump work, and I can even make the counter work to some extent. But your customer is going to pump 25,842 counts, and you are going to have to sit down and do the math to convert that to 18.5 gallons."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Better man than me.
I just got a wratchet and socket set to open up the tanks, a hand pump, and a bunch of 5 gallon cans.

BUT,
Do have this cool book that's got like all the primary roads in every state mapped out.

93 Further Great Emu War context - there was an estimated population of 20,000 of them in 1932, and they were laying waste to Australia's wheat crops. The military effort succeeded in eliminating - math ain't my strong suit - roughly 5% of them, maybe?

They eventually solved the problem with barrier fencing and an emu bounty system, but as late as 1950 the government was issuing .303 ammunition on request to settlers in emu-intensive areas.

94 Far Cry 3 lets you machine gun cassowaries. Another type of vicious flightless bird...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 25, 2024 10:18 PM (BpYfr)

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Cassowaries.

Far Cry 3 is a fun game.

95 re: What a Miserable Difference Six Months Can Make

Here's an insane DU post about how FJB can end his inflation problem with voters-

Having written that I think he's handling the high prices wrong and should do an oval office address and talk to the American people about the price gouging by companies. Tell the consumers to talk to the store managers, the landlords. Suggest companies drop prices to pre-pandemic levels would drive people wanting to spend less at their stores and they would make tons of more money and new customers which would force other companies to follow.

Companies like McDonalds and Wendy's are making out like bandits, one of them drops prices to 2020 levels, they are going to take a huge chunk of the others customers and business. This can happen at the grocery stores and everywhere. That's the message Biden needs to sell. We saw votes on price gouging go nowhere because of republicans, take it to the people, Biden hammers that issue he gets a second term, have his agriculture department list prices/profits, set the competition, let their CEO's get a million e-mails and complaints, it's healthy competition to drop prices and gain customers.

96 The question is, should I bookmark the EMP story so I can reference after the EMP attack?

97 Sigh, why not? They've decided grizzlies are what's missing in our ecosystem.
Posted by: Some Rat at April 25, 2024 10:35 PM (vJiyU)

I want to see the return of Wooly Mammoths.

98 If everything goes tits up in an EMP, I'm definitely starting a cult.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Can I be Director of Compliance in your cult? If not I could head up the Department of Redundancy Department.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at

I demand to be placed in charge of the Procrastination Department, y'know, whenever you get around to it.

99 Yep, I know. Speaking as a former trombone player.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 25, 2024 10:25 PM (9yWhg)

Dad was a tuba player, he had a fascination with the Serpent
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 10:34 PM (D7oie)
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A sackbut, a serpent and a couple of viola da gambas and away we go!

100 If trolley cars could fly, would elephants have overhead runners?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 10:33 PM (Be/+i)

Pantographs. Perfectly suited for the book thread I think.

101
Evening, all.

102 I have decided that restocking ammo in all of my calibers moving up to the 2024 election is my best option for now.

103 101

And hello to you...

104
re: What a Miserable Difference Six Months Can Make

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I couldn't stand to read the whole post at another site, but it concluded, "Things are going to get worse before they get worse."

105 Biden hammers that issue he gets a second term, have his agriculture department list prices/profits,

Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 10:35 PM (5fDan)

Pleasepleaseplease. Somebody has to educate this moron who apparently got the same economics degree as Sandy From Westchester.

106

Companies like McDonalds and Wendy's are making out like bandits, one of them drops prices to 2020 levels, they are going to take a huge chunk of the others customers and business. This can happen at the grocery stores and everywhere. That's the message Biden needs to sell. We saw votes on price gouging go nowhere because of republicans, take it to the people, Biden hammers that issue he gets a second term, have his agriculture department list prices/profits, set the competition, let their CEO's get a million e-mails and complaints, it's healthy competition to drop prices and gain customers.

Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 10:35 PM (5fDan)

That DU poster should be hunted down, humanely killed, and his brain preserved in formaldehyde for the benefit of future science.

107 Hope you feel better WD

108 ...I demand to be placed in charge of the Procrastination Department, y'know, whenever you get around to it. Posted by: mikeski at April 25, 2024 10:36 PM (DgGvY)


I majored in Procrastination, but never finished the course of studies.

With Honors.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

109 'In an EMP scenario, everybody is still here, but nothing works, and nothing is going to work. Scary stuff.'


Gubs and ammo will work. That can be either a good or a bad thing. Plan to make it a good thing for you and yours.

110 Pantographs. Perfectly suited for the book thread I think.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 10:37 PM (D7oie)

Measured in kiltometers.

111 A sackbut, a serpent and a couple of viola da gambas and away we go!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 10:37 PM (Be/+i)

You forgot the Tromba Marina, and the balalaika

112 I don't want to win that bad, unless I am fighting Paige Spiranic.

113 A sackbut, a serpent and a couple of viola da gambas and away we go!

Don't forget the hurdy-gurdy.

114 A sackbut, a serpent and a couple of viola da gambas and away we go!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 10:37 PM (Be/+i)

You forgot the Tromba Marina, and the balalaika
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 10:42 PM (D7oie)
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That's the spirit!

115 90
Agree. Good stories.
'299 Days' also good.

And so, with that being said, I really can't keep up with WD ONTs.
Soooo....lurking now🤪

116 Maybe a solution to our foreign support in Congress is that we need to apply super-sized condoms over all the dickheads. The country deserves protection!

117 Don't forget the hurdy-gurdy.
Posted by: Tuna at April 25, 2024 10:42 PM (oaGWv)



And the swynet.

118 Captain, good to see you sir!
Gonna make it to the PNW MoMe?

119 I'm beginning to think that Major Meredith might have been onto something, albeit indirectly.

Weaponized Emus.

An Idea Whose Time Has Come?

120 'In an EMP scenario, everybody is still here, but nothing works, and nothing is going to work. Scary stuff.'


Gubs and ammo will work. That can be either a good or a bad thing. Plan to make it a good thing for you and yours.
Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 10:41 PM (5fDan)
***

The winner is the guy who, if not stocked up already, can get to the nearest store/Costco and load up, get it home, and then defend it. This gets you through the first 6months. After that, what have got to plant, grow, harvest, to stay alive?
It is scary indeed!

121 ..I demand to be placed in charge of the Procrastination Department, y'know, whenever you get around to it. Posted by: mikeski

I should be considered for the lead of the Apathy Department but I really don't care.

122 WD, if you are here, on one of the morning threads, Wolfus Aurelius, one of our stalwart daywalkers from New Orleans, had questions about medial insurance. We recommended he get in touch with you.

Thank you. If you see him again, tell him to email me, my nic at gee, mail!

123 Captain, good to see you sir!
Gonna make it to the PNW MoMe?
Posted by: Some Rat at April 25, 2024 10:44 PM (vJiyU)
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Alas, probably not. I work weekends, now, and I will have taken off the weekend two weeks prior for our first reenactment of the season.

124
And hello to you...
Posted by: Nightwatch

==============

You're a fellow Californian if I'm not mistaken.

125 I should be considered for the lead of the Apathy Department but I really don't care.
Posted by: Tonypete

That you cared enough to apply means we can't use you.

126 Feel better, WD.

127 The winner is the guy who, if not stocked up already, can get to the nearest store/Costco and load up, get it home, and then defend it. . . .
Posted by: Diogenes

The first folks there will take all the toilet paper - that's what they'll think is important.

128 That DU poster should be hunted down, humanely killed, and his brain preserved in formaldehyde for the benefit of future science.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2024 10:41 PM (8zz6B)

Replace my brain.

129 I want to see the return of Wooly Mammoths.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2024 10:36 PM (8zz6B)

Re-Wilding is a thing, with pie in the sky ideas of releasing current varieties of megafauna (wild cows, Przwalski horse, and maybe rhino and elephant before trying to breed mastodon or cave bear) on the US plains.
Just don't let on to those loons that the original plan was championed by Goering back in the late 30's.

apparently there used to be herds of wild cattle on the Chernobyl exclusion zone. Probably all eaten, now.

130 Quitting early, because tired. I know, that's no excuse.

https://youtu.be/qJngWval8Bc

💤

131 Alas, probably not. I work weekends, now, and I will have taken off the weekend two weeks prior for our first reenactment of the season.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight

Darn! Perhaps Texas?

132 120 'In an EMP scenario, everybody is still here, but nothing works, and nothing is going to work. Scary stuff.'


Gubs and ammo will work. That can be either a good or a bad thing. Plan to make it a good thing for you and yours.
Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 10:41 PM (5fDan)
***

The winner is the guy who, if not stocked up already, can get to the nearest store/Costco and load up, get it home, and then defend it. This gets you through the first 6months. After that, what have got to plant, grow, harvest, to stay alive?
It is scary indeed!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2024 10:46 PM (W/lyH)


After six months, the most vicious battles in the US, maybe everywhere, will be fought over 40 bottomland acres and a mule.

133 I’d like to be considered for the head of customer phone support. I have an air horn, and I’m not afraid to use it.

134 Howdy y'all. What did I miss?

135 Thank you. If you see him again, tell him to email me, my nic at gee, mail!
Posted by: Weirddave at April 25, 2024 10:47 PM (NGHju)

Will do. Like you, I have a cold, but the 3 worst days of it are behind me now. I am now comfortable, and getting shit done, barring the occasional break to hork up phlegm. But i can hork it up, which is a blessing.

136 Darn! Perhaps Texas?
Posted by: Some Rat at April 25, 2024 10:50 PM (vJiyU)
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Texas almost certainly.

137 127 The winner is the guy who, if not stocked up already, can get to the nearest store/Costco and load up, get it home, and then defend it. . . .
Posted by: Diogenes

The first folks there will take all the toilet paper - that's what they'll think is important.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 25, 2024 10:49 PM (WXNFJ)


LOL

138 There is a boatload of graft (big surprise!) in a lot of the programs BUT, some of the kids really need the help. We have grade school kids that show up without shoes the first day because they don't have any. Honestly - don't have any. You can tell because they have what I call, 'Barney Rubble feet'.

We are part of a group that is buying 10,000 pairs of shoes for all the kids in the county for the fall.
Posted by: Tonypete

And I used to look forward to spring thaw so I did not have to wear shoes for a few months.

139 The first folks there will take all the toilet paper - that's what they'll think is important.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 25, 2024 10:49 PM (WXNFJ)

Heh!
And they are welcome to it.
I have other plans.

140
Re-Wilding is a thing, with pie in the sky ideas of releasing current varieties of megafauna

_______

Sabre-tooth tigers
Dire Wolves
Irish Elk

141 Re-Wilding is a thing, with pie in the sky ideas of releasing current varieties of megafauna (wild cows, Przwalski horse, and maybe rhino and elephant before trying to breed mastodon or cave bear) on the US plains.
Just don't let on to those loons that the original plan was championed by Goering back in the late 30's.

apparently there used to be herds of wild cattle on the Chernobyl exclusion zone. Probably all eaten, now.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 10:49 PM (D7oie)

Many of these critters could be released in National Parks and wilderness areas, and if they multiply too quickly, and start spreading into occupied land, a hunting season could be started to keep them in check.

142 Planting an harvesting is a dream. If it's so bad that there is no society, which subsistence living is, it will be more like the walking dead. At that time there will be some form of civil society or there will be chaos.

There will be some form of fortified/defended area something like the hacienda system only no indentured slaves (100 or so people) or the European equivalent. But individuals livin' on the farm ain't gonna happen.

143 Sabre-tooth tigers
Dire Wolves
Irish Elk
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 25, 2024 10:54 PM (pd2t7)
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Saber tooths and dire wolves are dumb as dirt. Tiny braincases. One reason why so many of them got stuck in the La Brea Tar Pits.

144 Don't forget the hurdy-gurdy.
Posted by: Tuna at April 25, 2024 10:42 PM (oaGWv)

Hurdy gurdies are old hat, you really want a Norwegian Nycklharpa

145 104

We must be steadfast in not allowing the Marxist/Commies now within our borders to take down our REPUBLIC without firing a single shot as they so BOAST.

We must learn them some American Revolutionary tactics so they might become EDUCATED/Totally eradictated on this... their folly.

146 I should be considered for the lead of the Apathy Department but I really don't care.
Posted by: Tonypete

That you cared enough to apply means we can't use you.
Posted by: Some Rat

I guess he's one of those folks who wouldn't be a member of any cult that would have him as a member.

147 After six months, the most vicious battles in the US, maybe everywhere, will be fought over 40 bottomland acres and a mule.
Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 10:50 PM (5fDan)


That's if they haven't already eaten the mule.

148 Re-Wilding is a thing, with pie in the sky ideas of releasing current varieties of megafauna

_______

Sabre-tooth tigers
Dire Wolves
Irish Elk
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 25, 2024 10:54 PM (pd2t7)

Muslims.

149 Saber tooths and dire wolves are dumb as dirt. Tiny braincases. One reason why so many of them got stuck in the La Brea Tar Pits.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at April 25, 2024 10:55 PM (Be/+i)

They went in there after the smart heffalumps that had gotten stuck.

150 Hurdy gurdies are old hat, you really want a Norwegian Nycklharpa
Posted by: Kindltot

No such thing. They're all Qyrtrharpas now.

Bidenflation.

151 144

Ah forget that ...better a "HAMMER ON DULCIMER."

152 Hurdy gurdies are old hat, you really want a Norwegian Nycklharpa
Posted by: Kindltot

No such thing. They're all Qyrtrharpas now.

Bidenflation.
Posted by: mikeski at April 25, 2024 10:58 PM (DgGvY)
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Whatever you do, don't get the quislingharpa.

153 The first folks there will take all the toilet paper - that's what they'll think is important.
Posted by: Tonypete

That's why *you* get there first and seize it - for all those folks, you're now in charge of their most valued item. Who runs Bartertown? Tonypete runs Bartertown!

154 Sadly forgotten.

155 Is this the post where we contemplate slashing our wrists?

We were expecting Coachella at the HQ
We would settle for the Fyre Festival
We get Armando's Drag Parade in Queens

Get some rest, Dave.

156 Re-Wilding is a thing, with pie in the sky ideas of releasing current varieties of megafauna


Oh fer crissakes - the net result of this will be Leftists demanding more and more public lands be made inviolate 'nature preserves' for re-animated extinct species. How many thousands of square miles of national forests will be made unavailable for camping and hiking so that a herd of 20 brontosaurii will have enough to eat?

157 Biden hammers that issue he gets a second term, have his agriculture department list prices/profits, set the competition, let their CEO's get a million e-mails and complaints, it's healthy competition to drop prices and gain customers.

Posted by: Gref at April 25, 2024 10:35 PM (5fDan)

While I suspect many companies are testing pricing highs, which could be called price gouging, it's also possible that higher prices anywhere in the supply chain will force those downstream to also raise prices.
Last burger I had at McD's, the pickle was thicker than the "beef" patty. To lower prices in the face of rising cost would have the patty be a brown piece of paper dipped in beef grease. Tastes like that already

158 Just saw a photo over on Insty's open thread of the so-called snipers perched atop the Ohio Union at OSU. If the agitators are a agitating in the Oval they've probably got a pretty good view although I think they have a better view of the bars on High St.

159 Mule is the chicken of the bottomland!

160 "Mine is 'tittup'. Strippers are usually very good at tittuping, well, except the bored ones."

Mine is 'borborigmy'. It's onomatopoeia - that is, a word that mimics the sound of what it names (for example, 'bang' or 'screech'). In this case, the word describes, and sounds like, the gurgling sound your bowels make.

Another onomatopoeia is 'Blatz', which is the brand name of a beer, but also the sound you make if you drink too many of them.

161 Mule is the chicken of the bottomland!
Posted by: Muldoon at April 25, 2024 11:02 PM (l4B/J)

Excuse me?

162 How many thousands of square miles of national forests will be made unavailable for camping and hiking so that a herd of 20 brontosaurii will have enough to eat?
Posted by: Gref

Nothing like a couple grizzly maulings to keep the rabble out of the elites playground.

163 Just saw a photo over on Insty's open thread of the so-called snipers perched atop the Ohio Union at OSU. If the agitators are a agitating in the Oval they've probably got a pretty good view although I think they have a better view of the bars on High St.
Posted by: Tuna at April 25, 2024 11:01 PM (oaGWv)

You know, in a fluid situation like that, it would be smart for unaffiliated "good guys" to occupy those sniper hides on high ground, just so the bad guys cannot.

164 Re-Wilding is a thing, with pie in the sky ideas of releasing current varieties of megafauna


Where did I read that there's an ongoing attempt to replicate a wooly mammoth? Damn. I can't remember.

165 The winner is the guy who, if not stocked up already, can get to the nearest store/Costco and load up, get it home, and then defend it. This gets you through the first 6months. After that, what have got to plant, grow, harvest, to stay alive?
It is scary indeed!
Posted by: Diogenes

Plant ASAP.
If you wait 6 months it will be too late.

166 You know, in a fluid situation like that, it would be smart for unaffiliated "good guys" to occupy those sniper hides on high ground, just so the bad guys cannot.
Posted by: Glass Armonica at April 25, 2024 11:05 PM (8zz6B)
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You're pretty smart for an obsolescent instrument.

167 “She told me that once the procedures were being done, which would be done over a consecutive amount of days, that my children would have to miss school because they’ll have to be placed under that laughing gas, anesthesia. I was then told that I would not be allowed to be there. And they would call me whenever it was time to pick them up,” she said.

Parent not allowed to be there? Immediate red flag. Is this guy the Larry Nassar of dentistry?

168 My primary concern after detonation of the EMP generating Nuc would be the numerous nucs that follow the initial detonation.

169 I wonder if any football GMs take into account a players Wonderlic test scores, or is RAS the only thing that counts?

170 The Muldoon family has a unique skillset.
We'll be around when needed.

171 Where did I read that there's an ongoing attempt to replicate a wooly mammoth? Damn. I can't remember.
Posted by: Tuna at April 25, 2024 11:06 PM (oaGWv)

from the genetics, the mammoth is most closely related to the Indian elephant, but the most recent report I read was that the genetics from permafrost mammoths was too corrupted to use to do any sort of invitro fertilization.

172
You know, in a fluid situation like that, it would be smart for unaffiliated "good guys" to occupy those sniper hides on high ground, just so the bad guys cannot.
Posted by: Glass Armonica

Guess who would be targets of the police?

173 from the genetics, the mammoth is most closely related to the Indian elephant, but the most recent report I read was that the genetics from permafrost mammoths was too corrupted to use to do any sort of invitro fertilization.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 11:09 PM (D7oie)
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And Lord knows you don't want to brick your mammoth.

174 The Muldoon family has a unique skillset.
We'll be around when needed.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 25, 2024 11:09 PM (l4B/J


I read that as skillet.
Pan fried mule! Mmmmmm!

175 Plant ASAP.
If you wait 6 months it will be too late.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

This is why you need a community. You can't guard your hoard and subsistence-farm at the same time. Warlords need minions, but minions need warlords, too.

176 Carrington event is probably more dangerous.

Thanks for the ONT.

177 Based on evidence from Australia, when running Bartertown you probably don't want to include a Thunderdome. Also, be wary of nomads in souped-up cars with the name of Max, and by all means don't allow anybody named Masterblaster to control any vital infrastructure.

Also, when you inevitably move on to controlling the only source of potable water, never hire anyone with the name Furiosa. avoid conspicuous displays with flaming guitars, and try to get your henchmen/thralls to be a little less kamikazi in their outlook. Those things lead to problems.

178 from the genetics, the mammoth is most closely related to the Indian elephant, but the most recent report I read was that the genetics from permafrost mammoths was too corrupted to use to do any sort of invitro fertilization.
Posted by: Kindltot

Fill the holes with rhino DNA. What could go wrong?

179
That DU poster should be hunted down, humanely killed, and his brain preserved in formaldehyde for the benefit of future science.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Or...

The people responsible for the DU poster's education should be hunted down and publicly tortured and burned at the stake. But only after the trannie brigade gets their fair share of snu snu from him.

180 Just saw a photo over on Insty's open thread of the so-called snipers perched atop the Ohio Union at OSU. If the agitators are a agitating in the Oval they've probably got a pretty good view although I think they have a better view of the bars on High St.
Posted by: Tuna

Heh. I wonder if anyone is old enough there to remember that there are at least two levels of tunnels connecting all the buildings (at least around the Oval) and all the Hospital complex buildings. Might come in handy.

181 I want a talking motorcycle named Einstein.

182 168 My primary concern after detonation of the EMP generating Nuc would be the numerous nucs that follow the initial detonation.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at April 25, 2024 11:08 PM (WvGHv)


If the ICBMs begin launching and I'm within 50 miles of my home, I'm simply going to stand in a parking lot and hope to to be instantly incinerated instead of slowly dying of radiation sickness, or dehydration, or starvation. The entire mega-city region I live in will be hit by a LOT of big air-bursting warheads due to almost innumerable strategic targets.

183 The winner is the guy who, if not stocked up already, can get to the nearest store/Costco and load up, get it home, and then defend it. This gets you through the first 6months. After that, what have got to plant, grow, harvest, to stay alive?
It is scary indeed!
Posted by: Diogenes

Plant ASAP.
If you wait 6 months it will be too late.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Long Pig.

184 Just saw a photo over on Insty's open thread of the so-called snipers perched atop the Ohio Union at OSU. If the agitators are a agitating in the Oval they've probably got a pretty good view although I think they have a better view of the bars on High St.
Posted by: Tuna


That's just the guys from I Phelta Thigh fraternity having a bit of fun.

185 Based on evidence from Australia, when running Bartertown you probably don't want to include a Thunderdome. Also, be wary of nomads in souped-up cars with the name of Max, and by all means don't allow anybody named Masterblaster to control any vital infrastructure.

Also, when you inevitably move on to controlling the only source of potable water, never hire anyone with the name Furiosa. avoid conspicuous displays with flaming guitars, and try to get your henchmen/thralls to be a little less kamikazi in their outlook. Those things lead to problems.
Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at April 25, 2024 11:13 PM (+OBLx)

Need a better scriptwriter. And directed by Frank Capra.

186 I want a talking motorcycle named Einstein.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 11:14 PM (63Dwl)

You need Mr. Ed.
You want a talking motorcycle named Einstein.
You'll get Hillary the Talking Mule.

187 You need Mr. Ed.
You want a talking motorcycle named Einstein.
You'll get Hillary the Talking Mule.
Posted by: RickZ at April 25, 2024 11:19 PM (emlEe)


Fascinating factoid about the Hillary mule...the front and back look exactly the same.

188 ...My primary concern after detonation of the EMP generating Nuc would be the numerous nucs that follow the initial detonation. Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at April 25, 2024 11:08 PM (WvGHv)


Most all of the Serious Military Systems are robustly hardened against the effects of an EMP.

The HOPE is most of that robustness, will WORK.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

189 Sackbut is German for "push pull", or so I have read.

190 If I were on the roof of one of those U buildings, I'd be on the cellphone to the cops, offering to act as a spotter for them.

191 Carrington event is probably more dangerous.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Carrington, ND? That's only 2000 people. How dangerous could they be?

Carrington, MO, isn't even an incorporated city, so that can't be it, either.

192 Sackbut is German for "push pull", or so I have read.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Confirmed.

193 I saw a video of a mule, wearing a pack saddle and bridle,
kick and bite to death a full-grown cougar which had attacked it.

Afterwards, the mule just stood calmly next to the dead cat, waiting for the mule's owner to show up.

194
That DU poster should be hunted down, humanely killed, and his brain preserved in formaldehyde for the benefit of future science.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

=============

I read one back in 2016 who wanted Hillary to arrive at a campaign event stepping off a jet that flew on vegetable oil.

195 170 The Muldoon family has a unique skillset.
We'll be around when needed.
Posted by: Muldoon at

Well. I got a roll of duct tape and a tarp.

196

Everybody knows in a second life, we all come back sooner or later.
As anything from a pussycat to a man eating alligator.
Well you all may think my story, is more fiction than it's fact.
But believe it or not my mother dear decided she'd come back.

As a car...
She's my very own guiding star.
A 1928 Porter.
That's my mother dear.
'Cause she helps me through everything I do
And I'm so glad she's near.

My Mother the Car.
My Mother the car.

197 Where did I read that there's an ongoing attempt to replicate a wooly mammoth? Damn. I can't remember.
Posted by: Tuna

Russia,.

198 I've been buying a boatload of those single serving packets of condiments because we're gravitating toward the Fight Club and I want to be prepared.

199 So, my 76-year-old neighbor whose wife died a scant two months ago after a two-year struggle with cancer tells me that he is looking for a Christian singles group for dating because he has "physical needs". I guess this means the bereavement period is over.

Dude! Get a grip. Literally. Maybe a little lube.

200 I want a talking motorcycle named Einstein.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Mine's named Hermes. I don't think he has any relatives named Einstein.

201 Nurse, you probably want to get a shovel, too.

202 Companies like McDonalds and Wendy's are making out like bandits...

Looking at 5YR MCD chart....

Stock keeping with inflation, not anywhere like bandits.

WEN's 5YR isn't keeping up with inflation, looks like it is being plundered by bandits.

203 And I used to look forward to spring thaw so I did not have to wear shoes for a few months.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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It never freezes, well sometime, here. When we hit the 4th grade, teacher gave us a lecture that we were becoming young men and part of that responsibility was to wear shoes. Awwwww
Yes, you may no longer attend school barefoot. Awwww
Shoes tomorrow or else.

204 So, my 76-year-old neighbor whose wife died a scant two months ago after a two-year struggle with cancer tells me that he is looking for a Christian singles group for dating because he has "physical needs".
Posted by: Muldoon

I hope you have enough bourbon to erase the visual that came with that.

205 Well. I got a roll of duct tape and a tarp.
Posted by: nurse ratched

*******

It's a start.

206 So, my 76-year-old neighbor whose wife died a scant two months ago after a two-year struggle with cancer tells me that he is looking for a Christian singles group for dating because he has "physical needs". I guess this means the bereavement period is over.

Yeah, at 76, those "physical needs" are: grocery shopping, cleaning up after, doing the laundry for and making sammichs.

The dude needs to hire a maid.

207 I hope you have enough bourbon to erase the visual that came with that.
Posted by: mikeski

******

I a\was almost physically ill. The whiskey helps.

208 Kindltot,
I have one! It's my lucky geoduck digger.

209 My Mother the Car.
My Mother the car.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 11:26 PM (63Dwl)

I have a copy of this book, signed by the author, Stu Chapman. He passed away just recently. RIP, Stu.

https://tinyurl.com/463whsxd

210 I'm the meal planner of the household. I've pretty much given up on grocery shopping. I'll put in my orders on line, get notified by text when I can pick up, and a nice young person loads the stuff into my trunk.
For specialty items like meats and produce I can walk to local merchants.

211
Yeah, at 76, those "physical needs" are: grocery shopping, cleaning up after, doing the laundry for and making sammichs.

The dude needs to hire a maid.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

A living loving maid.

212 But believe it or not my mother dear decided she'd come back.
--------

Some say that they're coming back in a garden
Bunch of carrots and little sweet peas
I think I'll just let the mystery be...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9LT5HuzrE

213 If the ICBMs begin launching and I'm within 50 miles of my home, I'm simply going to stand in a parking lot and hope to to be instantly incinerated instead of slowly dying of radiation sickness, or dehydration, or starvation.

For people of faith, I don't know what the fear of dying is all about. Probably because they are really without faith and think that living in this shithole is "Living Your Best Life".

Why live a horrible existence with no future, no progeny and no ministry in some cursed dumpster when Glory lies ahead? If the LORD ordains a nuke blast, isn't it time to go home?

214 It is not unusual to have a favorite style of shovel. Mine is the long handled 5" blade trenching shovel. The blade is extra heavy and it is set at a very nice angle to the heavy handle. It won't make a big hole, but it will make a nice narrow one which is what I need for planting trees and digging out rocks.

I am also very fond of my short handled round nose shovel too, it is very good for moving stuff around.

I bought a grape hoe last summer and I am still trying to come to terms with it. I think it is a better tool for sandy soil, I don't think it is appropriate for the heavy clay we have here.

I would like tol point out that I have spent far too much time moving dirt by hand.

215 Why live a horrible existence with no future, no progeny and no ministry in some cursed dumpster when Glory lies ahead? If the LORD ordains a nuke blast, isn't it time to go home?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at April 25, 2024 11:37 PM (4HcMG)

Not a Biblical scholar, but I don't believe God says it's OK to give up.

216 IIRC, there was a motorcycle based knightrider like show. Cannot remember the name.

My brain is a sink of this shit. Northstar, where an astronaut got hit by a solar flare and got super powers. But he could overheat. Pilot, never went anywhere.

Earth Star Voyager with Duncan Regher. It was a show with a collapsed eco system (acid rain was the thing then) and a bunch of teenagers on a starship to go explore to see if there was a habitable planet next door. Wackiness ensued. Pilot, never picked up.

217 How did people in active war zones during WW2 survive? I know the cheese eating surrender monkeys France was still able to function as if there was no war but other countries that were totally disrupted?

218 Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 11:39 PM (D7oie)

******

We can count on you to call a spade a spade.

219 Kindltot,
My all time favorite gardening tool is a hori hori.

I've dug several hundred pounds of weeds with mine. Too bad I don't currently live in a place with a garden I can dig up.

220 >>>I don't know what the fear of dying is all about.

>Death on the outer rim of the Yellowstone Caldera will be painless when a Russian MIRV targets a Minuteman installation close by and triggers an earth-shattering eruption.

221 Not a Biblical scholar, but I don't believe God says it's OK to give up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

*********

“I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:”
2 Timothy 4:7 (KJV)

222 I bought a grape hoe last summer and I am still trying to come to terms with it. I think it is a better tool for sandy soil, I don't think it is appropriate for the heavy clay we have here.

I would like tol point out that I have spent far too much time moving dirt by hand.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 11:39 PM (D7oie)

Here in Arizona, a very popular tool is the so-called "hula hoe". It shaped like a stirrup, set at a 45 degree angle to the handle, with the "footrest" of the stirrup being a flat blade about an inch wide, sharpened on both sides, and fixed in the legs of the stirrup such that it can tilt forward and back a few degrees. Back and forth action on the handle will cause it pull its way down into the ground, ground conditions permitting. Does a real number on weeds, and not too strenuous to use.

223

Timothy, Timothy, where on earth did you go?
Timothy, Timothy, God why don't I know?

224 How did people in active war zones during WW2 survive? I know the cheese eating surrender monkeys France was still able to function as if there was no war but other countries that were totally disrupted?
Posted by: polynikes

My guesses are:
1. they didn't
2. they evacuated
3. poaching
4. subsistence farming
5. hidden root cellars
6. delicious neighbors

225 196

AHhh so very sweet. One of the TV shows I watched as a child. Mr. ED...Beverly Hillbillies...Billy Barty, Sheriff John and Capt. Kangaroo among others...

Don't forget Jack Lalanne and "Dialing For Dollars" with Pat McCormick back in the 60's.

226 I have a habit of breaking shovel handles, so I have gotten the skill of whittling them down and re-using them. Most shovels and hoe handles are extra long anyways.
My wife is very short so she likes the shorter handles, it is more convenient than using a tool that is taller than she is.

227 Don't forget Jack Lalanne and "Dialing For Dollars" with Pat McCormick back in the 60's.
Posted by: Nightwatch

And "Queen for a Day" only featured females.

I wonder went exactly we went mad. . .

228 tools have funny names, we call that type of hoe a "scuffle hoe"

229
I wonder went exactly we went mad. . .
Posted by: Tonypete

When we stopped smoking cigarettes and started drinking diet soda pop.

230 The Medicaid affiliated pediatric dentists have long been fleecing the gummint and doing unnecessary work to po' childrens teeth. Everything is a scam and racket now, but this one has been going on for decades.

231 Next Saturday is the local Master Gardeners' plant sale. I will buy lots of tomato plants and probably some peppers as well.

232 tools have funny names, we call that type of hoe a "scuffle hoe"
Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 11:53 PM (D7oie)

There is a kinda-sorta similar hoe called a "dutch hoe" which is a thin flat blade attached to the tines of a two-tined fork. Tines are bent such that the blade is flat on the ground when the handle is held at arm's length by your side.

233 Chefs (not a typo) take Xavier Worthy (WR;TX) with pick #28 in first round.

Fastest man at the Combine. Weighs 172 lbs.

We shall see. One has to give the Chefs' GM the benefit of the doubt at this point, bc... Super Bowl rings aplenty.

234 Crap, I've been away from here for so long but always missed you. But BEER! Household renovations are taking forever and my computer is on a bar stand. BEER!

First, a Roku stick with a router lets you stream Tubi, Pluto, Roku all free, and they have a lot of great content free with very few commercials, which you now get on the paid services.

235 Well we finally did it, had Bailey put down today. At 14 she had a good run for a big yellow lab. We thought she was on her way out as far back as Thanksgiving.

She'd be sick for a couple of days then revive for a while. A good friend, the quiet tonight is different. No more of you banging that boney head against my leg or running under my knees.

Passersby may notice they are no longer greeted by this formerly big bark, lately much weakened. All it meant was come play with me.

RIP you smiley dog.

236 Been shopping for toilet paper. Must be a new regulation, 'Septi Safe', melts in you hand not in the toilet. Going to look around, there must be some old fashioned non melting toilet paper.

237 There was a gameshow in the 70's that had contestants running through a maze finding prizes.

My young self loved that show.

238 Me, watching one of those 'History' Channel homesteaders shows: ...

20something 'homesteader': We need to clear this patch if we are going to plant. But we need a new tool. So we traded our last eggs and oil for this thing.

Me, never farmed nor cleared land: That's a billhook.

20something 'homesteader': This here is a rare item...

Me, never farmed nor cleared land: That's a billhook.

20something 'homesteader': No one knows what this is...

Me, never farmed nor cleared land: That's a billhook.

20something 'homesteader': It's called a billhook. *grin*

Me, never farmed nor cleared land: ...

239 Sorry to hear that, Farmer.

240 Farmer, I'm so sorry.

BUY so many happy years and memories.

241 Fun as always with you all.

Work in the AM and I am needing more sleep hours these days so...

Night Horde...Sleep the Sleep.

242 In chains, Jack LaLane swam from Alcatraz to shore.

243 Night Nightwatch.

244 Farmer,

A "GOOD DOG" is lucky to any of us that are so blessed.

I am happy for you to have had such a dog.

245 I've been buying a boatload of those single serving packets of condiments because we're gravitating toward the Fight Club and I want to be prepared.
Posted by: Mr. Bone at April 25, 2024 11:27 PM (pDQ/

Those individual ketchup packets go bad after a bit. Happened with me when I worked. Kept some in my drawer until that fateful day when I opened one of those packets and squeezed out a decidedly brown 'ketchup'.

Buy it in bottles. You'll be able to recycle the bottles as Molotov cocktails.

246 But so many happy years and memories.

It's amazing how being there with your friend in their final moments never leaves you. I've been there for the final injection a few times. Brutal.

247 So at a time when Seniors are getting HAMMERED by inflation, Biden wants to raise the capital gains tax...

You know.. the tax on the investments they FORCED us into by killing the old traditional retirement system?

I always thought that those who said they wanted to get rid of old people, were tin foil hat wearing folks...

Now? they may have been onto something.

248 AOP, have you ever owned/driven a Hillman/Sunbeam Imp? I'm thinking of buying one to fix up after I finish the two cars I'm nearly done with. I like rear-engined cars. A friend of mine had an Imp in the 70s and I remember liking it. They were imported to US kind of briefly, thought maybe they were more prevalent in Canada.

249 Yeah, at 76, those "physical needs" are: grocery shopping, cleaning up after, doing the laundry for and making sammichs.

The dude needs to hire a maid.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

There's a song in there somewhere.

250 When the burning times arrive, I'm hoping that my extensive hoard of duck and soy sauce will provide both nutrition and barter goods.

251 Farmer!

Want to tell us a few fun stories about Bailey?

And others can share there stories about there pets.

For example, the people at Tim Horton's in town always give the dogs free timbits..small donuts...if you ask. Whenever I take Ralphy there, I open the window, he starts howling, they say hi to Ralphy and many times they give him more than one. Once three.

Oh and pretty older teenage girl says he's her favorite dog. And the lady at Arby's gives him 2 dog cups of meat when we go there. He howls and she knows it's Ralphy.

252 Huh. I did not have 'SHTF Condiments' on my bingo card.

253 RIP you smiley dog.
Posted by: Farmer at April 26, 2024 12:04 AM (55Qr6)

Condolences, Farmer. It hurts to lose a furry family member. I do not know how much longer Pogo will be with me. She is 15 this year, i think.

254 "Biden wants to raise taxes on [everybody; just fill in the blank]", but...

1) Good chance in 6 months what Biden "wants" = ex-POTUS, so yawn. Who cares?

2) Even if that senile disaster is re-elected, he can't raise taxes by Executive Order. That takes both Houses of Congress. The DEMs aren't gonna hold the Senate this year.

255 Mike Pinder, Moody Blues, dead at 82

256 So at a time when Seniors are getting HAMMERED by inflation, Biden wants to raise the capital gains tax...

You know.. the tax on the investments they FORCED us into by killing the old traditional retirement system?
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It's a tax on the inflation in the stock market all those years of quantitative easing did, so a least there is symmetry.

257 Condiment packets: mayonnaise, pickle relish, salad dressing, - things that will brighten up those cans of tuna. Also - all purpose flour, you can make biscuits with water and baking soda - something to eat that peanut butter and !jelly packet with.

Stores will empty on the first day and they will be a dangerous place to be. Check and see how much water you use - more than you think. Those 5 gallon jugs WITH THE SCREW ON LIDS are cheap.

258 Been shopping for toilet paper. Must be a new regulation, 'Septi Safe', melts in you hand not in the toilet. Going to look around, there must be some old fashioned non melting toilet paper.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Scott brand.
Doubles as paper towels and 800 grit to buff out scratches on your car.

259 The Medicaid affiliated pediatric dentists have long been fleecing the gummint and doing unnecessary work to po' childrens teeth. Everything is a scam and racket now, but this one has been going on for decades.
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2024 11:54 PM (V5BDR)

"Everything is a scam and racket now" is probably the truest sentence ever written.

Replacing religious-derived morality with nothing was not a winning move for society. People began to see the crooks and conmen as "smart" rather than evil and parasitic, and it's been a race to the bottom ever since.

260 Oh, I'm not a cat person. But we have wonderful new neighbours that moved here during the Covid insanity. Beautiful people. Homeschool. One lived through the killing of his dictator. And I'm amazed he'll go through that twice.

But the cats!! I am not a cat person. But the neighbours got cats for the kids. Sunroom out back where the cats were kept. They would go on vacation and take care of the cats

I felt bad for the cats, went over twice a day, petted them, played with them, food, water and cleaned the litter box.

I was their only entertainment....before they clawed through the window screens and became outdoor cats

261 AOP, have you ever owned/driven a Hillman/Sunbeam Imp? I'm thinking of buying one to fix up after I finish the two cars I'm nearly done with. I like rear-engined cars. A friend of mine had an Imp in the 70s and I remember liking it. They were imported to US kind of briefly, thought maybe they were more prevalent in Canada.
Posted by: Old 'n' Slow at April 26, 2024 12:12 AM (V5BDR)

I remember test-driving one as a yute, but did not buy. Forget why, probably because, even back then, it was darned near an orphan. One little car, that I used to own, and wish I still had? The Austin 1100. It was the "slightly bigger" brother to the Mini, with the same power plant, sporting a bit more displacement, but what was really cool was its "hydro-lastic" suspension, with the "springs" being pressurized air bladders containing fluid, with front and rear being interconnected. It had amazingly good ride and handling, and cornered like a slot car. Pinin Farina styling, so did not look like a Mini at all. They sold a version in the USA, and also Canada, called the Austin America, with a 1300 engine. They are very hard to find now.

262 Damn, I haven't been here for awhile. Dead thread...?

263 the book was written awhile back. It's called One Second After. EMP, blah blah , Newt Greendick gave a copy to all members of CONgress. But as someone commented, " us old guys that get shit done", we'll be fine.

264 262: Slows down after midnight.

265 -----------------
Scott brand.
Doubles as paper towels and 800 grit to buff out scratches on your car.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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I've tried Wally and my local grocery every brand Including Scott is 'Septic Safe' which assures that it will dissolve in your hand. Amazon too although I haven't check every one yet. My next stop is Dollar General and Dollar Tree. If I find some I'm getting every package.

266 That Kentucky dental problem? From the 'headline' I really thought it was going to be trans surgery and not superfluous dental work by a quack dentist. The school officials need to join the dentist in jail.

267 262: Slows down after midnight.
Posted by: Puddleglum

Can't feed the thread after midnight. Bad things happen.

268
others can share there stories about there pets.

Posted by: Stateless

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I'm in the home of a family member who lost her husband 2 days ago. The cats are a couple of oblivious, indifferent snips. Lounging on his empty hospice cot, zooming around the kitchen while none of us can eat and yowling "WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?" and generally waiting or demanding to be entertained when they're not napping.

269 I've tried Wally and my local grocery every brand Including Scott is 'Septic Safe' which assures that it will dissolve in your hand. Amazon too although I haven't check every one yet. My next stop is Dollar General and Dollar Tree. If I find some I'm getting every package.
Posted by: Braenyard

I get Scott at Wally.
Package says "dissolves 10x faster" but is still just as abrasive as ever.
Septic tank here too.
Best to keep oils & fats out.
Cellulose no problemo.

270
That Kentucky dental problem? From the 'headline' I really thought it was going to be trans surgery and not superfluous dental work by a quack dentist. The school officials need to join the dentist in jail.
Posted by: Ciampino

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That's exactly what I thought, and the dental thing is almost creepier. What's going on while those kids are anaesthetized and parents aren't allowed on the premises?

271 Kentucky Mother Pleads For Help As She Is Threatened With CPS If She Does Not Allow Her Children’s School To Conduct “Unnecessary” Surgeries On Them

My first thought is that the kid would go for dental work and come back without a penis. Tells you the state of the nation that I would think that first...

272 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 26, 2024 12:51 AM (ny95y)

::: first bump :::

273 Amazon
Horsehair Bristle Acid Shop Brushes, 1/2-inch, 36 Pieces
$8.88 List: $9.99
Harbor Freight $2.99
Amazon 7" Bench Brush Shop Brush, Dust Brush for Car or Home $8.15
Harbor Freight 1.99
Amazon
Steel Detail brush3pcs Mini Wire Brush Set, Rust Paint Metal Cleaner, Cleaning Welding Slag and Rust,
$5.88
Harbor Freight 99 cents

274 273 Amazon
Horsehair Bristle Acid Shop Brushes, 1/2-inch, 36 Pieces
$8.88 List: $9.99
Harbor Freight $2.99
Amazon 7" Bench Brush Shop Brush, Dust Brush for Car or Home $8.15
Harbor Freight 1.99
Amazon
Steel Detail brush3pcs Mini Wire Brush Set, Rust Paint Metal Cleaner, Cleaning Welding Slag and Rust,
$5.88
Harbor Freight 99 cents

Posted by: Braenyard at April 26, 2024 12:56 AM (lCWOD)

Are both selling Chinese crap?

275 Ajax is now 14. He is having issues with the stairs, but the minute I ask if he needs help he will shamble on up. He's such a good dog and every now and then he forgets that he is not a spry even 10 year old anymore.


We were at my parents and I let him out. He did his business and he comes back in. He got to running like he always did to hit the stairs at a gallop and he smacked right into the stairs and fell back on his butt. He looks up at me with a confused look 'What the hell just happened?' Sorry, buddy.

276 Again, not a cat person. Neighbor's cats...But I love these cats.

The cats remember my kindness. One, Twilight, lost her kittens, the neighbors had to go away and I took care of her for days....just petting her feeling heartbroken.

Last week,she gave birth to five kittens. I took care of all of the cats through the weekend. I've never seen aniamls with small babies before. I let Twilight out several times a day. There was once or twice before she went in to nurse the kittens that she looked at me, tired, ginned up her strength,, went into the bed and let the kittens get milk.

The other cat earlier had two kittens who are grown now...they are the cutest things ever. Fluffy as hell. And one is called Trumpy so you know they are raised right.

I've gone into the neighbours backyard, called out and have had three cats run out to greet me. It was just weird. And since we live across the street, the record is 3 cats in the yard to greet me.

The oldest two were there to greet me today as I did grip hanging exercises in the garage. Starry stayed the entire 30 minutes. Beautiful cat. Made me happy.

277 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 26, 2024 12:56 AM (75/Pp)

Getting old sucks for all of us. Latest thing not function as normal: my fingers. Started getting numb on one finger...then numb on two finger tips. Yeah, probably should have it looked at...

278 RIP you smiley dog.
Posted by: Farmer

You did good.

279 That's exactly what I thought, and the dental thing is almost creepier. What's going on while those kids are anaesthetized and parents aren't allowed on the premises?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 26, 2024 12:51 AM (ny95y)



Mom has a family dentist, and the kids are cared for. She should get together with the dentist and hire a lawyer to sue the school board. There is graft going on there, for sure. Probably Democrats.

280 Farmer, I hope your dog liked cats.

My Harley will surely enjoy his company, Up There.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

281 Kentucky Mother Pleads For Help As She Is Threatened With CPS If She Does Not Allow Her Children’s School To Conduct “Unnecessary” Surgeries On Them

My first thought is that the kid would go for dental work and come back without a penis. Tells you the state of the nation that I would think that first...
Posted by: jim

Who the fvck threatened CPS should be up formal complaints on practising medicine w/o license and extortion. And maybe suspicion of racketering... Medical Board, local and State LEOs...
Before advising it to FOAD

Already having a family dentist is kinda sorta bullet proof against any 'neglect' claim with CPS.

282 279 That's exactly what I thought, and the dental thing is almost creepier. What's going on while those kids are anaesthetized and parents aren't allowed on the premises?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 26, 2024 12:51 AM (ny95y)



Mom has a family dentist, and the kids are cared for. She should get together with the dentist and hire a lawyer to sue the school board. There is graft going on there, for sure. Probably Democrats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 01:02 AM (8zz6B)

Yup, not that Repubes are immune from engaging in such chicanery.

283 Are both selling Chinese crap?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 26, 2024 12:56 AM (ynpvh)

Amazon may have numerous "stores" all selling the same thing. prices are all over the map. Have to factor in cost of delivery, too.

284 281
...
Already having a family dentist is kinda sorta bullet proof against any 'neglect' claim with CPS.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 26, 2024 01:05 AM (cOq4q)

In Kalifornia, it can be very Laverntiy Beria; they'll find something to go after you over. So many CPS horror stories, especially those involving MFing hospitals whose first impulse is to call an injury child abuse just to take the kid away from parents. Couple that with a corrupt legal system (St. Louis family court is a great example) and you can be royally screwed.

285 Well, time for me to toddle off to bed. Still trying to shake this cold. Today was much better than yesterday, tough. Nite, Horde.

286 285 Well, time for me to toddle off to bed. Still trying to shake this cold. Today was much better than yesterday, tough. Nite, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 01:09 AM (8zz6B)

Night AOP.

287 I'm in the home of a family member who lost her husband 2 days ago. The cats are a couple of oblivious, indifferent snips. Lounging on his empty hospice cot, zooming around the kitchen while none of us can eat and yowling "WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?" and generally waiting or demanding to be entertained when they're not nappin

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 26, 2024 12:48 AM (ny95y)

That's crazy. I'm sorry you're going throught that.

I've never liked cats before my neighbours. Actually, my brother had a very sweet cat that came up to me lovingly while I was fixing his computer. The cat was so sweet, you would have thought he was a dog.

I'm curious if you think the death was vaxx related? I don't want to get into anything big or upset you....just yes or no. ,y mother lost a couple of people she loved I blame on the jabs. Turbo cancer and really rare crap. Older people, not in the best shape, but still....

288 Nice to see AOP again,

Feel better!

289 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 26, 2024 12:56 AM (75/Pp)

When I take Ralphy into the car and the car is in the garage and he has no room to jump, he puts his front paws on the backseat and I lift his butt while he climbs in...

290 62 In an EMP scenario, everybody is still here, but nothing works, and nothing is going to work. Scary stuff.'
...
How fast could we breed horses to re-introduce them on a large scale? I bet not very.

- - - -

People are idiots, and won't ride or take care of them. Best to include a cook book with them...

291 People are idiots, and won't ride or take care of them. Best to include a cook book with them...
Posted by: As not seen on TV

Stock up on Horsey Paste.
Especially if you have a lot of skeeters.

292 268
others can share there stories about there pets.

Posted by: Stateless

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I'm in the home of a family member who lost her husband 2 days ago. The cats are a couple of oblivious, indifferent snips. Lounging on his empty hospice cot, zooming around the kitchen while none of us can eat and yowling "WHAT'S FOR LUNCH?" and generally waiting or demanding to be entertained when they're not napping.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 26, 2024 12:48 AM (ny95y)

I didn't let the cats into my room when my wife was dying. One cat misses her; after she passed and didn't come back, he started removing fur from his forelegs. Yes, he still wanted to eat and play, but missed her. Was three months yesterday...

293 Farmer!

Want to tell us a few fun stories about Bailey? ...
Oh and pretty older teenage girl says he's her favorite dog. And the lady at Arby's gives him 2 dog cups of meat when we go there. He howls and she knows it's Ralphy.
Posted by: Stateless at April 26, 2024 12:21

Oh there are many stories. As most labs, she has had a voracious appetite. Jules made Christmas cookies when Bailey was young, left them to cool off on the counters, shut the pocket doors so the dog couldn't get in.

We had no idea the cat could get the door worked open and let Bailey in to devour most of 10 dozen cookies. And she got "sicker than a dog".

294 Wow. I fell asleep soon after the ONT started. What’d I miss?

295 Based on evidence from Australia, when running Bartertown you probably don't want to include a Thunderdome. Also, be wary of nomads in souped-up cars with the name of Max, and by all means don't allow anybody named Masterblaster to control any vital infrastructure.

Also, when you inevitably move on to controlling the only source of potable water, never hire anyone with the name Furiosa. avoid conspicuous displays with flaming guitars, and try to get your henchmen/thralls to be a little less kamikazi in their outlook. Those things lead to problems.
Posted by: John Drake Nearing The Caspian Sea at April 25, 2024 11:13 PM (+OBLx)

Need a better scriptwriter. And directed by Frank Capra.
Posted by: RickZ

Excellent - now I'm envisioning Frank Capra's The Road Warrior.

So far, I'm seeing Jimmy Stewart handcuffing Mr. Potter's leg to a wheel axle, with a slow trickle of gasoline making it's way to a flaming zippo. "There's uh, a chainsaw, there, Mr. Potter. Maybe you can saw your leg off before..." (explosion) "Guh-golly, that's gonna leave a mark." Also, Clarence is a mute nine-year-old whose halo has a razor edge and is employed like a boomerang.

296 Mom has a family dentist, and the kids are cared for.

For me, that's the part of this story that just doesn't add up.

297 Adjusting my tin-foil hat, I have to wonder if all this lawlessness, including the illegal lawlessness (besides being a Dem voter enrollment scheme), is a set-up to have retail chains, according to the news, remove self-checkouts, thus increasing the jobs market/numbers. I mean, according to Dementia Joe's FBEye, we have the lowest violent rate in 50 whole years. What was lied by omission is that people are not reporting crime like they used to thanks to knowing the police either won't show up at all or, if they do come, write up {YAWN} a report that goes nowhere.

I'm not sure if we're being lied to by the best or the worst liars, but whatever they're getting away with their lies for the time being.

298 Mom has a family dentist, and the kidsout are cared for.

For me, that's the part of this story that just doesn't add up.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

Free cleaning between 6 months regulars. $200 valiue. Why not?
It turned to be an extortion racket.

That simple.

299 OK, guess I’m back to bed again. G’nigjt, All.

300 We had no idea the cat could get the door worked open and let Bailey in to devour most of 10 dozen cookies. And she got "sicker than a dog".
Posted by: Farmer at April 26, 2024 01:21 AM (55Qr6)

Cat snd dog in the same house?

Sweet. If you took videos, you must have something worthy of clip shows.

My Aunt Pat had a crazy dog Ginger. Ate about a pound of butter. Dogs are the best.....

301 Mom has a family dentist, and the kids are cared for.

For me, that's the part of this story that just doesn't add up.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 26, 2024 01:22 AM (mH6SG)

Many above said it best: Corruption. I'm sure the dentist is performing work that doesn't need to be done and padding the bill, or just billing for no work at all (the kid's out cold and no parent around). Then someone in the school is getting a kickback from the dentist for all the 'referrals'.

For kids, public schools are becoming little Auschwitz', and I wish I was being hyperbolic.

302 I didn't let the cats into my room when my wife was dying. One cat misses her; after she passed and didn't come back, he started removing fur from his forelegs. Yes, he still wanted to eat and play, but missed her. Was three months yesterday...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 26, 2024 01:19 AM (ynpvh

I'm so sorry.
There's absolutely nothing to say...

303 302 I didn't let the cats into my room when my wife was dying. One cat misses her; after she passed and didn't come back, he started removing fur from his forelegs. Yes, he still wanted to eat and play, but missed her. Was three months yesterday...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 26, 2024 01:19 AM (ynpvh

I'm so sorry.
There's absolutely nothing to say...

Posted by: Stateless at April 26, 2024 01:44 AM (jvJvP)

Just pointing out that cats can be attuned to what's going on. In a lot of ways, they're kinda assholes, but can pick up on some human emotional cues (not nearly as well as dogs can).

304 And I'm toast. G'night all.

305 He got to running like he always did to hit the stairs at a gallop and he smacked right into the stairs and fell back on his butt. He looks up at me with a confused look 'What the hell just happened?' Sorry, buddy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 26, 2024 12:56

LMAO Aetius, thanks for the good chuckle. In the past yr we've really noticed Bailey's dementia. She would just lay there and bark at nothing, we called it barking at ghosts. Sad, but kinda funny too.

And she had trouble w/ mobility, her hind end went to shit. But she'd just get up and move on, always seemed happy and not in pain. However today was time, her body was just giving out on her, despite her spirit.

306 Posted by: RickZ at April 26, 2024 01:35 AM (emlEe)

Yeah... confused about how a SCHOOL, does health care now?

Sure as hell did not when I was growing up.

307 However today was time, her body was just giving out on her, despite her spirit.
Posted by: Farmer at April 26, 2024 01:49 AM (55Qr6)

That is one of the hardest decisions a real human has to make, showing ultimate Love for one of God's creatures in our care.

308 Yeah... confused about how a SCHOOL, does health care now?

Sure as hell did not when I was growing up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2024 01:58 AM (xaFKb)

Well, that's an easy, answer, too: What, you expect poor parents moms to take care of dental, breakfast, lunch and dinner for their children? When Daddy Gub'mint is right there handin' out free shit? C'mon, man. 'Sides, gotta get those nails done to look good for their man. Who has time (and potentially ruins a new nail job) to take care of the kids? That's what schools are FOR.

309 He got to running like he always did to hit the stairs at a gallop and he smacked right into the stairs and fell back on his butt. He looks up at me with a confused look 'What the hell just happened?' Sorry, buddy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

George Carlin had this routine about his cat running into something and its reaction was "f***ing meow," followed by immediately regaining its composure and assuming the look of "I meant to do that."

And if you have a cat, you know the fundamental truth of that. Feline dignity and the need to look cool and in control. Dogs, God bless them, have the honesty to react with "What the Hell happened? God, that hurts!"

I love both species, and had the great experience of seeing them playing and having fun together. Our last cat but one, Bob, only met his canine sister, Betsy, after my mother passed away. (Mom, for some reason, always named her dogs Betsy, so Betsy was our inheritance) Betsy was older and skittish, while Bob was a spry youngster, and it was like he became her caretaker. When we got back from a trip, Bob would guide her into the house, allowing time to answer the call of nature.

310 Just pointing out that cats can be attuned to what's going on. In a lot of ways, they're kinda assholes, but can pick up on some human emotional cues (not nearly as well as dogs can).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 26, 2024 01:47 AM (ynpvh)

I fully believe in animal emotions. After Twilight lost her kittens, several days later, our friends went on vacation for a while and I was there to take care of the two cats,

Animals and emotions. Even cats...yeah. I was there twice a day and stayed to pet and caress Twilight as much as she wanted. It was horrible. At one point, she was outside when I was walking our dog Ralphy. I held his head and talked to him so he had no idea what was going on and Twilight came up and rubbed against him.

Broke my heart.

But last week, when she was horribly pregnant and days after I thought she was going to give birth, girl would come across the street to see me, roll over to relieve pain I'm sure and want to be petted.

311 218 Posted by: Kindltot at April 25, 2024 11:39 PM (D7oie)

******

We can count on you to call a spade a spade.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 25, 2024 11:42 PM (l4B/J)
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"No, Mother Superior, they call a spade a fucking shovel!"

312 211
Yeah, at 76, those "physical needs" are: grocery shopping, cleaning up after, doing the laundry for and making sammichs.

The dude needs to hire a maid.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

A living loving maid.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2024 11:35 PM (63Dwl)
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Inga from Sweden.

313 Further progress on Frank Capra's The Road Warrior, the closing narration from George Bailey's daughter Zuzu:

And so began the journey north from Bedford Falls to safety, to a nice place near Albany that Mama saw in Better Homes and Gardens Among us we found a new leader: the man who came from the sky, Uncle Harry, the Douglas SBD Dauntless Captain. And just as Uncle Billy had planned, we traveled far beyond the reach of men on machines. The gasoline, the precious unleaded was hidden in the vehicles. [fade to shot of young Zuzu] As for me, I grew to womanhood and in the fullness of time I became the leader, the Chief of the Great Northern Amway and Luthern Tribe. And George Bailey, the Road Warrior, my father? That was the last we ever saw of him. He lives now only in my memories, him and Donna Reed, my mom, wearing that metallic mesh (Uncle Billy called it a bikini?) get-up and speeding through the night. Sometimes I think I hear the roar of a chopped down Studebaker in the night, and a voice saying "No, Donna, that's not the gearshift, but that, uh, golly,that works too."

314 I've had cats, pretty much all my life. Even in my Fortune 1000 years, I lived so much the Road Warrior Life, that it would've been terribly unfair to any dog, given my horrendous schedules.

Dogs NEED clockwork regularity, which I could never have given.

So, cats. A lifelong succession of them.

They're every bit as perceptive and giving as dogs. Albeit, less OVERTLY so.

Cats will burrow deep into the subtle side of your soul. But, borrow, they will.

And far more deeply IN, than you ever might imagine.

Hurts like HELL when they leave.

/hasta la nite nite, Horde.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

315 314
Cats will burrow deep into the subtle side of your soul. But, borrow, they will.

And far more deeply IN, than you ever might imagine.

Hurts like HELL when they leave.

/hasta la nite nite, Horde.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 26, 2024 02:32 AM (e6UQI)
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Yes.

316 Frank Capra's The Road Warrior. work in process:

GEORGE: Aren't you, uh, you takin' a kind of unwise stand here, Potter I don't, I say, I don't think the people of Bedford Falls look too kindly on you in this dystopia you-uh-you helped to midwife.
POTTER: I've got the reprobates, the cretins, the Columbia Protestors, and the Rotary Club on my side, George. What have you got?
GEORGE: (Visibly shocked) Th-th- Rotary Club!?! How-how did you...
POTTER: Really bitchin' fried fish suppers. The Toastmasters will be joining us soon. I only had to promise them the chance to meet Zig Zigler. It's really Buck Owens. They won't know the difference.
GEORGE: You-you-you monster! After force feeding Uncle Billy lute fisk for hours! (Cut to UNCLE BILLY writhing in agony, foam spewing from his lips)
POTTER: What are you going to do, George? Appeal to that "Guardian Angel" of yours?
CLARENCE: (Face flushed with anger, removes and flings his halo) GWRRRR!
(The halo makes an arc around Potter who grabs it, saying)
BUCK OWENS: I'm a pickin'... (as the halo severs all his fingers) I...ain't...a....grinning.

317 Just pointing out that cats can be attuned to what's going on. In a lot of ways, they're kinda assholes, but can pick up on some human emotional cues (not nearly as well as dogs can).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Hell, sometimes cats' emotional sensitivity is mind-blowing. I've seen that with 2 cats now, a male and a female, several years apart.

318 Free cleaning between 6 months regulars. $200 valiue. Why not?
It turned to be an extortion racket.

That simple.

No, it's not.

319 Sorry, script problem: the Oddjob-like razor rimmed halo makes an arc around POTTER, and BUCK OWENS grabs it.

Also, the last lines from the scene were omitted:

ZUZU: Mommy, teacher says when an angel gives his halo a fling, bastards lose all sorts of things.

DONNA REED (Not going to call her Mary): That's right, dear, but your teacher is also one sick little bitch. George, wherever we go to after we leave this dystopia, we really need to give K-12 education some careful reconsideration.

GEORGE: One thing at a time, dear. Zuzu, only listen to what your-uh-teacher says about Molotov Cocktails and Punjee Sticks. Right now I'm a little busy waiting for Uncle Harry to zoom in at treetop level and do some strafing.

POTTER: (Eyes widening in shock) That would violate the Geneva Conventions!

GEORGE: ( Looking up as a faint whine of propellers can be heard) If I were you, I'd be more worried about strafer fire violating my duodenum. Muh-muh-my suggestion, Potter, see how fast that geriatric carcass of yours can run.

320 Hell, sometimes cats' emotional sensitivity is mind-blowing. I've seen that with 2 cats now, a male and a female, several years apart.
Posted by: SFGoth

So very true. My wife and I have both had the experience of our cats coming to our laps or resting on our chests when they know we're feeling down or really ill. And I'll never forget how from first to last, our family cat would escort our son when he went Trick-Or-Treating. They're subtle, and they seem to pick up on nuances.

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I'm curious if you think the death was vaxx related?

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There were some unexplainable elements to his decline. His wife's first thought was the vaxx, which he got and regretted, but his medical history also had some iffy omens. Still no one knows how he got his final, very rare affliction and why he couldn't recover when there was every reason he could have.

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New York Times: Supreme Court Conservatives Seem to Favor Acknowledging Some Form of Presidential Immunity, At Least for "Official Acts" Undertaken as Part of the President's "Core Powers"

This is by no means a guarantee for Trump. Amy Coney Barrett seems very sympathetic to Biden's handpicked Election Interference Agents.

And the Court will not be endorsing Trump's expansive, anything-the-president-does-is-immune-from-criminal-process theory.

But they do seem inclined to rule against the lower courts' almost-as-expansive theory that any president can be indicted for any reason post-presidency, and enjoys no immunity whatsoever.

The thing is, even if they just vote that way -- and say the lower courts erred in not determining which of Trump's acts may have been taken as part of his official duties -- then it's a win for Trump, because the case would be thrown back to the originating court with instructions for the judge to write a new opinion, which itself would be appealable. That would most likely punt the case into next year.

Here are some snippets of live updates from New York Times court "reporters." The "reporters" are Alan Feuer, Abbie VanSickle, and Charlie Savage. I won't be noting which updates were written by which "reporter."

Supreme Court Live Updates: Conservative Majority Seems Ready to Limit Election Case Against Trump

A ruling in the case, on whether the former president is immune from prosecution, would probably send it back to a lower court and could delay any trial until after the November election.

The Supreme Court's conservative majority seemed poised on Thursday to narrow the scope of the criminal case against former President Donald J. Trump on charges that he plotted to subvert the 2020 election.

Such a ruling, endorsing at least part of Mr. Trump's argument that he is immune from prosecution, would most likely send the case back to the trial court to draw distinctions between official and private conduct. Those proceedings could make it hard to conduct the trial before the 2024 election.

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D. John Sauer, Mr. Trump's lawyer, pressed an extreme version of the former president's argument. In answer to hypothetical questions, he said that presidential orders to murder political rivals or stage a coup could well be subject to immunity.
But several of the conservative justices seemed disinclined to consider those questions or the details of the accusations against Mr. Trump. Instead, they said the court should issue a ruling that applies to presidential power generally.

"We're writing a rule for the ages," Justice Neil M. Gorsuch said.

Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh also said the court should think about the larger implications of its decision. "This case has huge implications for the presidency, for the future of the presidency, for the future of the country."

Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. said that a ruling for Mr. Trump could enhance democratic values.

"A stable, democratic society requires that a candidate who loses an election, even a close one, even a hotly contested one, leave office peacefully," he said, adding that the prospect of criminal prosecution would make that less likely.

"Will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy?" he asked.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor said she had a different understanding. "A stable democratic society," she said, "needs the good faith of its public officials."

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Multiple justices focused on whether motive matters. This is a recurring pressure point in the question of whether an official act can be treated as a crime: Does it matter whether a president had a corrupt purpose? Proponents of a strong presidency point out that if the answer is yes, that could allow courts to second-guess whether a president's exercise of his constitutional responsibilities was reasonable, a significant blurring of separation of powers.

A lot of the discussion has swirled around the question of whether, without immunity, presidents will be hounded by their rivals with malicious charges after leaving office.

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The oral argument lasted nearly three hours, as the justices tangled with a lawyer for the former president and a Justice Department lawyer. A majority of the justices appeared skeptical of the idea of sweeping presidential immunity. However, several of them suggested an interest in drawing out what actions may be immune and what may not -- a move that could delay the former president's trial if the Supreme Court asks a lower court to revisit the issues.

Many of the justices seemed to be considering the idea that presidents should enjoy some form of protection against criminal prosecution. The devil however will be in the details: How should that protection extend?

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Looking back, one of the main points of discussion turned on the question of which situation would be worse: a world in which presidents, shorn of any legal protections against prosecution, were ceaselessly pursued in the courts by their rivals in a never-ending cycle of political retribution, or allowing presidents to be unbounded by criminal law and permitted to do whatever they wanted with impunity.

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Justice Barrett picks up the question of timing again. She suggests that if prosecutors want to take Trump quickly to trial, they could simply drop those parts of the indictment that seem to be his official acts as president and proceed with only those parts of the indictment that reflect Trump's private actions taken as a candidate for office. Dreeben is not wild about that idea.

No, because this is all political. It's not about justice, it's about saving Biden from an election he is doomed to lose.

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Justice Barrett seems to signal that she is less likely to find that presidents have blanket immunity for their official acts. When Dreeben says the system needs to balance the effective functioning of the presidency and accountability for a former president under the rule of law, and the existing system does that pretty well or maybe needs a few ancillary rules but that is different from the "radical proposal" put forward by Trump's legal team, she says: "I agree."

What about Obama? Can he be prosecuted for the murder of Anwar al-Awaki?

You know, there's no statute of limitations for murder.

Should we try Obama next?

Kavanaugh asks Dreeben about Obama's drone strike that killed an American citizen suspected of terrorism, Anwar al-Awlaki, which Trump's lawyer invoked in his opening. Dreeben notes that the Office of Legal Counsel analyzed the question and found that the murder statute did not apply to presidents when they were acting under public authority, so authorizing the strike was lawful. This is the way the system can function, he said -- the Justice Department analyzes laws carefully and with established principles.

Oh sure, we should trust the corrupt, weaponized DOJ.

Say Trump wins. He installs Rudy Giuliani as AG.

Are Biden's hand-picked Election Interference Agents still on board with the claim that anything the DOJ does must be right and proper?

Note the contradiction here -- they're saying that we cannot have a blanket rule that anything a president does is presumptively legal. They just want a blanket rule that anything a DOJ does is presumptively legal.

So long as that DOJ is headed by a Democrat, of course.