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After a Mass Shooting in Poland's Historic Krakow Square, the Left-Wing President Attempting a Coup Against the Right Claims the Shooter Was "Fascinated by Right-Wing Ideologies"

Euronews, translated from the original Polish by Google.


A seemingly ordinary 24-year-old from Ostrowiec Świętokrzyski had a gun permit, trained shooting and worked as a lathe. On November 7, he opened fire on people on the Krakow Main Market Square. It soon became apparent that his loved ones had [been murdered before the rampage at Krakow Square].


The tragedy on the Main Market Square in Krakow shocked Poland. On Saturday, November 7, shortly after 15.00, a black car of the brand Subaru appeared in the city center.

The man driving it drove into the market plate and began shooting towards passers-by. People sought shelter in nearby restaurants, shops and tenement gates. Shortly after, the attacker moved through the streets of the city, followed by police patrols.

The perpetrator was 24-year-old Michał Oksimski from Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski. The man was shot during a police intervention and in critical condition was taken to hospital. He died Monday morning. Six people were killed in Krakow and more than a dozen were injured. In the course of further activities, the services discovered that on the same day in the family's apartment in Ostrowiec Świętokrzyski another tragedy occurred. The bodies of the 24-year-old's parents and younger sister were found there.

A former classmate says he seemed to be "living in his own world."

As is common in cases of mass shooters, he annihilated his own family, and the cats, before shooting up strangers.


During the activities of the services in Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski, the bodies of three people were revealed: 53-year-old father Michał Oksimski, 52-year-old mother and 21-year-old sister. They all had gunshot injuries. According to preliminary findings, their deaths occurred on Saturday 7 November, even before the 24-year-old arrived in Krakow. Investigators suspect that the same man is responsible for the killings of family members and the subsequent attack in the city centre.

Two shot cats were also found in the apartment

...

It is still not known what prompted the 24-year-old to kill his loved ones and carry out an attack on random people. The prosecution analyzes secured phones and electronic equipment. A spokesman for the National Prosecutor's Office said investigators had at least four phones found next to the man and in the car, as well as devices secured in his apartment. They are to help recreate preparations for the attack, determine motivation and possible inspirations.

The EU whore and tyrant Tusk is attempting to claim he's a "right wing" shooter because of a single piece of evidence: He had a Gadsden flag.

One of the threads reviewed by investigators is whether he acted alone or whether someone could have helped him or influenced his decisions. At this stage, however, the prosecutor's office did not provide evidence of the participation of other people. The content and symbols found in its surroundings are also examined. According to media reports, the 24-year-old's room had a Gadsden flag, associated with, among other things, libertarian traffic in the United States. The prosecutor's office pointed out that this symbol has different meanings and its mere possession does not determine the ideological motives of the perpetrator.

I'm not ready to take anyone's word for it about what this guy's politics were. Some accounts say he's an antifa "anarcho-communist" who hated Christianity and supported all of the typical Antifa causes:

Ben Graham
@BenGrahamUK

4h

The entire narrative surrounding the Kraków terror attack has been thrown into serious doubt today.

Polish Interior Minister Marcin Kierwinski initially claimed killer Michał Oksinski was "fascinated by far right ideologies".

Is this just based on the Gadsden flag?

Now, a former schoolmate says Michał Oksiński showed no right wing tendencies, while a police source has reportedly suggested he may actually have held far left views.

There are also claims he attended Poland's pro-abortion protests in 2020 and may have supported open borders.

British media outlets, alongside media organisations around the world, were quick to run with the "far right" headlines.

It will be interesting to see whether those same outlets are equally quick to correct their reporting and apologise to the public if those claims prove false.

There are now calls for Kierwiński to resign from his position in Poland for spreading misinformation at such a dangerous time.





As I said, I wouldn't take those internet claims as true at the moment.

But nor would I accept the claim of a government currently attempting a coup against the right in its own claims that "The Right Is So Terrible You Guys You Have to Support Us In This Coup or Else Other Right-Wing Extremists Will Shoot Up Krakow Square."

The incentive to lie is too great -- and we know leftists need very little incentive to ile in the first place.

The government is both pushing out the claim that he is an "ultranationalist right-wing extremist" while also saying: None of this has been verified yet.

So... let's just put it out there for now. Let the public marinade in our unverified speculations.




There was a monster in Krakow Square, but fortunately there was also a hero:



Natasha Montreal
@NatashaMontreal
·
Nov 7
Update to today's terrorist attack in Poland.

The shooter has been identified as Michał Oksiński from Ostrowiec.

An additional victim of the nass shooting has died, bringing the death toll to six and the reported number of injured to an additional 16 people.

Kamil Kosin was one of the responding policemen and is the policeman in the video that was posted this afternoon. He sustained three gunshot wounds from an automatic weapon.

Despite being shot, Kosin still neutralized the attacker. The attacker had an automatic weapon, a helmet, and a vest.

The parents and sister of Oksiński were found dead in the apartment where the shooter lived with them.

Oksinski's social media posts are inconsistent. They seem to have included anti-Catholic and pro-Communist posts, as well as manga and animé type posts, as well as Falanga imagery.

He allegedly attended the 2020 pro-abortion protests in Poland, the "All-Poland Women's Strike."

In one of the images pulled from his Facebook account before it was deleted his caption was, "A photo bathed in the red light of communism-simply delightful."

Kanał Zero, a Polish news channel interviewed a couple of people who knew the killer from school and alleged that he had worn all kinds of masks, dressed strangely, and painted his nails black.

Classic right-winger.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:14 PM




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1 1st

Posted by: GF at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (e5z5/)

2 “Satan has deceived 1/3 of the angels, imagine what he is capable of doing with a generation that does not read the Bible."

— Charles Spurgeon

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 02:16 PM (qesug)

3 Ace, it's the left-wing Prime Minister. The President is trying to hold it off.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 02:18 PM (NcvvS)

4 he's a "right wing" shooter because of a single piece of evidence: He had a Gadsden flag.

Did it still have the price sticker on it? I'll know he's a True Patriot if he's wearing khaki pants. It's kind of our signal.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2026 02:19 PM (bkqk1)

5 "Kanał Zero, a Polish news channel interviewed a couple of people who knew the killer from school and alleged that he had worn all kinds of masks, dressed strangely, and painted his nails black."

Is that a polite or sneaky way of saying what I think he's saying?

IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 02:19 PM (iFTx/)

6 Neighbors say Ostrowiec had been turning his life around and recently began attending a neighborhood bible study.

Posted by: Local media at November 09, 2026 02:19 PM (cBj2I)

7 And tomorrow the Sejm will be burned down by the same so-called "rightists"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 02:20 PM (RIvkX)

8 Is that a polite or sneaky way of saying what I think he's saying?

IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 02:19 PM (iFTx/)

That he sounds vaccinated?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 02:21 PM (1ns3n)

Russell Brand Sentenced to Ten and a Half Years in Prison Over Rape Allegedly Taking Place in 2004

This seems like a lot.

I'll explain that in a bit.


Comedian Russell Brand was sentenced Monday in the United Kingdom to 10 and a half years in prison for raping one woman and sexually assaulting three others.

In his sentencing remarks, Judge Joel Bennathan said that Brand showed a "casual and arrogant disregard" for women denying him consent, the Associated Press reported.

In the course of his rise to stardom, Bennathan said, Brand became a "sexual predator."

This is another case of Two-Tier Justice.

Do you remember Henry Nowack? He was stabbed to death by an immigrant with a knife and stabbing fetish who lied to police and claimed Nowack Did a Racism and so deserved to die. The police chatted amiably with the non-stabbed "victim" of necessary anti-racist stabbing as the literal life oozed out of Henry Nowack's body.

He did not admit to cops that he'd stabbed the man and was dying on the street from blood loss. He compounded the stabbing by continuing to hide the fact that he'd stabbed the "racist," letting the man die without medical attention.

That asshole got... the absolute minimum of 21 years for race murder. And there's no question of his guilt.

Just double what Brand got for an alleged "historic rape" from 22 years ago.

I bring that up, because that immigrant race-murderer was just in court complaining that his sentence was too harsh. He wanted to halve the sentence -- down to ten and a half years, what the usefully-white Russell Brand got.

In a minor bit of good news, the court not only rejected his plea, but added four years to his sentence calling the earlier Two Tier Justice sentence "unduly lenient."

But it's still just twenty five years for a man who went out hunting a native citizen to murder and who then distracted cops with his hallucinatory Tale of Racial Woe.

Britain Justice Uncovered
@justicewatchuk

Nov 7

⚖️ Henry Nowak's killer asked for less time in prison and the Court of Appeal added four years to his minimum term.

Vickrum Digwa was serving life for stabbing 18-year-old university student Henry Nowak to death in Southampton when two challenges to his sentence came before the Court of Appeal this week.

Digwa argued that the 21-year minimum was too long, while Attorney General Ellie Reeves had asked the judges to increase it because she considered it too low for the crime.

Both arguments came back to what Digwa did on the street where Henry was walking home.

The two men were strangers, and Digwa was carrying a large dagger in a sheath on the outside of his clothes when they met.

After a brief encounter, Digwa drew the blade and stabbed Henry repeatedly.

Digwa then filmed Henry as he tried to get away and kept filming as he lay dying.

He told his mother, Kiran Kaur, to remove the knife, and he repeatedly lied to the police officers who arrived.

The appeal judges said the original sentence gave too little weight to two things.

The first was how Digwa used a large blade he already had to hand to kill an unarmed man.

The second was the cruelty he inflicted on Henry after the stabbing and the steps he took to obstruct the investigation.

That distinction mattered because the appeal judges agreed the trial judge could start at 15 years when working out the minimum term.

A higher starting point applies when someone takes a knife to the scene intending to commit a crime, and the trial judge found that Digwa had carried the dagger there without that intention.

The appeal judges accepted that finding and gave much greater weight to what Digwa actually did with the weapon and how he treated Henry afterwards.

They put the minimum term at 25 years, with credit for the 175 days Digwa had already spent in custody before sentencing, and refused him permission to appeal against the sentence.

Once Digwa has served the minimum term, the Parole Board can consider whether he can safely be released.

Any release would come with conditions for the rest of his life, and he could be sent back to prison if he broke them.

Henry's family is also dealing with a separate release decision involving the person who took the knife away.

Kaur was sentenced to three years for helping Digwa by hiding the weapon, and she is expected to leave prison early in December, around the first anniversary of Henry's death.

The Home Office has commissioned an independent review that will examine what the prison and probation service told the family about Kaur's early release.

Henry's father, Mark Nowak, put the timing plainly: "She'll be out for Christmas, and I won't have Christmas with Henry."

Below: I think this smug simpleton is called James O'Brien. I wouldn't have heard of him, except the Podcast of the Lotus Eaters talk about him a lot. He is one of the many hard-left "liberals" who is insanely and smugly wrong about every single issue and fact.



Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:10 PM




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1 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (SN8r1)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 01:11 PM (NcvvS)

3 Nood'd

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:11 PM (SN8r1)

4 Mebbe Brand can develop a new act on the prison's Open Mike Night.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 01:14 PM (wVcYX)

5 So is there no statute of limitations on rape in the UK?

For the record, I put all of this in the same pile as the Cornell case, bad behavior, but not rape.

Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:14 PM (VRTat)

6 This world doesn't want to hear the truth.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:14 PM (SN8r1)

7 So, who's this "lbc" fool?

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (pfXMo)

8 I want to care .. It does seem like he was railroaded...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (+gK6I)

9 And he was murdered with a knife in a country notorious for making it hard to own a knife, but he was allowed to have that knife because he's brown

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (gw3RI)

10 MEGA

Make
Executions
Great
Again

Posted by: clarence at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (W2eM/)

11 Russell Brand was sentenced Monday in the United Kingdom to 10 and a half years in prison for raping one woman and sexually assaulting three others
......

He should have converted to Islam and wore a head towel to court.

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (UjdFS)

12 This makes it seem even worse - what the judge said at the sentencing. I wonder how the appeal process works over there.....



Viva Frei
@thevivafrei
·
2h
RUSSELL BRAND SENTENCED:

I predicted 8 to 10 years. He got sentenced to 10.5 years. He will have to serve 2/3 of that sentence.

Particularly shocking from the sentence is what the judge just revealed about the alleged victim.

The alleged victim - who waited +/- 15 years before making the claims against Brand - has “lengthy mental health and addiction problems” and that there had been “other issues in her life” that contributed to those difficulties.

Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:18 PM (kX27y)

13 I have seen it reported that this was one of those:
"I agree to a, b, x, r with conditions, and maybe t if you ask nicely, but then he did w and I did not agree to that" rapes.


ie, she had consensual sex with him but then he did butt stuff and that was too much.

Is that true? Did they give him 10 years for being a back door bandit?

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 09, 2026 01:18 PM (a9wD3)

14 Brand should announce he's a tranny.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 09, 2026 01:18 PM (vr4To)

15 want to care .. It does seem like he was railroaded...
Posted by: It's me donna

He was. Wasn't down with globohomo. So the first chance they get.....

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:19 PM (SN8r1)

16 Brand's sentence was appropriate. Reading the rationalizations of his defenders is very entertaining.

Posted by: Milk Milk Lemonade at November 09, 2026 01:19 PM (blIQ6)

17 Meh. The Brits seem to like things the way they are.

Personally, I am prepared to defend myself. And for now, at least, I’m allowed to.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 01:20 PM (yVYSZ)

18 A better comparison to Brand's corrupt conviction and heavy sentence is probably to illegals and foreigners convicted of rape and sexual assault.

That's if they ever are convicted of any sex crimes. Most are probably never convicted, or they are given sweetheart plea deals.

But surely, some illegals and foreigners must be convicted of sex crimes similar to Brand's. What were their sentences? I'll bet not 10 years.

I say "corrupt" conviction because I have the same view of this case as I do the Cornell 7: it was gross and nasty, the men acted horribly, but the ladies got what they wanted, and it was all consensual.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:20 PM (iFTx/)

19 So is this post about Brand, or the other guy?

Hello, Horde! 😊💕

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:21 PM (SRRAx)

20 And James O’Brien is asking why the British public won’t “stop whining”?
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It drowns out your whining?

Face it, there is a lot of "commentary" daily that is simply whining about what somebody else did.

It started with the Daily Whine.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:21 PM (Fi81e)

21 O'Brien is so profoundly retarded he should run for office. "You're white, you're he--ter--o--sexual, your'e middle class, you're not disabled. On what basis are you complaining that the State gives lighter sentences to muslim immigrant child predators than what you would receive for criticizing their light sentences on X?"

Posted by: Oglebay at November 09, 2026 01:22 PM (2ap+5)

22
1. I have no sympathy for the girl --- you go to the creeps mansion for sex, you get what you get. In a sane world this would be he-said, she-said, no case to prosecute, not a tee off for a civil suit.

2. I remember him when he was a comedian, and I thought he was a disgusting creep. Then he did that podcast with the new-age lovey-dovey bs and I thought he was a disgusting phony creep.

So one of those stories where it is an injustice, but I don't really care.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 09, 2026 01:22 PM (a9wD3)

23 Meh. The Brits seem to like things the way they are.

Personally, I am prepared to defend myself. And for now, at least, I’m allowed to.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 01:20 PM (yVYSZ)
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They own their own corruption of civilization.

Don't be surprised when it's no longer there for you (Brits, not you).

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:22 PM (Fi81e)

24
I guess his asshole will get a lot of attention now. The guy always reminded me of a low life. Never found him funny, just creepy.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 09, 2026 01:23 PM (NtVYv)

25 The alleged victim - who waited +/- 15 years before making the claims against Brand - has “lengthy mental health and addiction problems” and that there had been “other issues in her life” that contributed to those difficulties.

So it's a standard Five Eyes "make someone politically inconvenient go away" thing, except in this case the victim apparently really did have sex with him.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:23 PM (2ocoG)

26 If you in any way were a celebrity, would you dare air conservative thoughts? This just has a chilling effect.

I dont even think Russell was really a conservative, basically just a converted Christian asking questions about the dominant narrative being forced down everyones throat.

Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:23 PM (VRTat)

27 Russell Brand was "In the Club" and largely allowed to do whatever he wanted. As soon as he left The Club he lost all the protection and They needed to make an Example out of him.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (V362x)

28 Willowed:
---
I know people here get tired of my expanding fascism past the Nazis and the Italians, and pretty much want to maintain the same definition as the Left-- but what Galloway said is 100% fascist.

What Galloway is talking about, I assume, is Musk not volunteering Starlink to the Ukrainian cause. He should be considered a traitor and executed because the government would have his cooperation--and didn't get it!!

How dare somebody resist the State's plan!! That suggest that they live under a "different set of rules"!!

That's fascist. That's "We all have to bind together for strength, and no different rules for anybody--including 'innovators'!"

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (Fi81e)

29 >>>7 So, who's this "lbc" fool?

I think he's called James O'Brien. I wouldn't have heard of him, except the Podcast of the Lotus Eaters talk about him a lot. He is one of the many hard-left "liberals" who is insanely and smugly wrong about every single issue and fact.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (1wjle)

30 After the rape he watched "Quantum Leap."

Not sure how to feel about that.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 09, 2026 01:25 PM (a9wD3)

31 I think he's called James O'Brien. I wouldn't have heard of him, except the Podcast of the Lotus Eaters talk about him a lot. He is one of the many hard-left "liberals" who is insanely and smugly wrong about every single issue and fact.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (1wjle)
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And seems to whine quite a bit about what other people deign to think.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:25 PM (Fi81e)

32 I don't even think he was a butt bandit, I think she agreed and then had the regrets later.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 01:25 PM (n5tGW)

33 He's a good target. No one cares but maybe his wife, family.

His assets are bottoming out.

Prior to the conviction, Brand attempted to transfer sole ownership of his £5 million Oxfordshire estate into his wife's name. Legal experts note that his overall 'fortune' remains highly vulnerable to impending civil lawsuits and financial compensation claims brought forward by victims.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:26 PM (NFX2v)

34 Don't know who this O'Brien guy is but I hope he meets up with a muzzie rape gang who would help him ease his white privilege

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 01:26 PM (FroOw)

35 My whining can hardly be heard over your whining about somebody bleeding out getting lectured about racism!

Stop that!

Posted by: James O'Brien at November 09, 2026 01:27 PM (Fi81e)

36 You get 72 hours to report a rape. If you had a rape kit immediately after the rape, better. This 3 months, 3 years, 3 decades insanity isn't working.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:28 PM (enNUy)

37 Always thought Brand was a jerk , but this is a joke. Yes my tongue was up his butt but really I'm telling the truth that he did things I didn't want

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 01:28 PM (FroOw)

38 After the rape he watched "Quantum Leap."

Come on, Ziggy.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 09, 2026 01:28 PM (OkYzo)

39 I don't even think he was a butt bandit, I think she agreed and then had the regrets later.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 01:25 PM (n5tGW)
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As we know, regret rape is something they are trying to make happen.

Because it empowers women over men. Q.E.D.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:29 PM (Fi81e)

40 He commited the ultimate crime. He said some somewhat conservative things.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:29 PM (JQfkC)

41 I wonder the same thing about Brand as Diddy.

You're very rich. Whether or not you're guilty, they're going to hang the conviction on you.

Why are you in a court, accepting a sentence?

Liquidate your assets and run away. Why are you taking shit like a peon?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 01:29 PM (BI5O2)

42 Something she didn't want to do and she told him to stop....

Yup. It's anal.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:30 PM (Fi81e)

43 As we know, regret rape is something they are trying to make happen.

Because it empowers women over men. Q.E.D.


It's just like how abortion is regret sex.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:30 PM (2ocoG)

44 Pretty sure that once you tongue-punch someone's fartclam, it's safe to assume that you're down for literally anything and everything else.

Posted by: ballistic at November 09, 2026 01:30 PM (oqH4h)

45 Meanwhile thousands of rape and assault of minors by swarthy replacement citizens go unpunished.

Brand is only guilty of being affluently white while having regretful sex. Disclaimer: I've only had a mild interest in this case. So there may be details that extend beyond my casual classification of the "crime."

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 09, 2026 01:31 PM (6avj3)

46 Did the cops in Britain go to jail? No?

Were they fired? No?

Disciplined? No?

Now tell me what Derek Chauvin did what was 1/10th of what they did

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 01:31 PM (sKqQm)

47 So gross.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 01:31 PM (yVYSZ)

48 “The first was how Digwa used a large blade he already had to hand to kill an unarmed man.”

Doesn’t everyone bring a weapon to a mostly peaceful protest?

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Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:32 PM (UjdFS)

50 You get 72 hours to report a rape. If you had a rape kit immediately after the rape, better. This 3 months, 3 years, 3 decades insanity isn't working.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:28 PM (enNUy)
___

It's obviously working for some women.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 01:32 PM (qesug)

51 Pretty sure that once you tongue-punch someone's fartclam, it's safe to assume that you're down for literally anything and everything else.

Anyone getting a little hot right now?

Posted by: Pete Bootyjizz at November 09, 2026 01:32 PM (sKqQm)

52 Good news is Brand can do all the butt stuff he wants now. Guilt free.

Posted by: Milk Milk Lemonade at November 09, 2026 01:32 PM (blIQ6)

53 >>>The alleged victim - who waited +/- 15 years before making the claims against Brand - has “lengthy mental health and addiction problems” and that there had been “other issues in her life”

whoa, really? she gave a guy she didn't know and just met a rusty trombone while another woman fellated him. next thing you'll tell me drugs were involved

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 01:34 PM (gw3RI)

54
He commited the ultimate crime. He said some somewhat conservative things.

And he was on the Gutfeld show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 01:34 PM (Cqx++)

55 Always thought Brand was a jerk , but this is a joke. Yes my tongue was up his butt but really I'm telling the truth that he did things I didn't want
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 01:28 PM (FroOw)
_____

Brand's a gross creep but so were all these girls. He got away with it for almost 20 years. Hell, he practically bragged about power-fucking every whore and slut he could find.

Nobody cared because he was down with the "right" opinions. It was not until he started having a few non-approved opinions that he suddenly faced decades-old fake rape claims.

"I ate his asshole and then we had a threesome and then he fucked me again but then he put his dick in my ass and that's like totally rape!"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

56 Glad I’m not on social media so my prom date from 20 years ago can’t look me up and say that “trip around the world” she introduced me to after we both drank a fifth of Yukon Jack was rape.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 01:34 PM (jlI90)

57 I can feel it

slouching its way towards

Us

Oh Lord, Oh Lord.

Posted by: in the air tonight at November 09, 2026 01:34 PM (anL5R)

58 >>>Doesn’t everyone bring a weapon to a mostly peaceful protest?

it's his culture

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 01:35 PM (gw3RI)

59 He commited the ultimate crime. He said some somewhat conservative things.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:29 PM (JQfkC)
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He found out through Covid that there are far more conscientious people on the "Right" than on the authoritarian Left.

He was mainly becoming a commenter on the Left. But he moved into faith in Jesus, before he developed too much of a "rightest" mindset. Of course he was enough generic "spiritual" during much of this journey as well.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:35 PM (Fi81e)

60 Those girls are just as gross. wtf

Nasty. But, you do you.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 01:36 PM (yVYSZ)

61 After the rape he watched "Quantum Leap."

Not sure how to feel about that.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 09, 2026 01:25 PM (a9wD3)

Guilty of watching bad SciFi. 20 years to life.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 09, 2026 01:36 PM (6avj3)

62 It wasn’t rape until the trial lawyer suggested I could cash in.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 01:36 PM (jlI90)

63 Meanwhile a summer friend long ago, goofy, cute, nerdy and goofy, invited me to her house once to "show me it" while her parents were out for the day. Took 10+ years for it to dawn on me that it wasn't the house she wanted to show me.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:36 PM (RZ+Ww)

64 28. Willowed. ....Galloway, and that's fascist.

Posted by: Axeman

Galloway was a 90's big shit 'business developer' until the dot.com bubble. Now he's a non typical marketing professor who sits on a board or two in California.

As he got crazier and crazier, Musk booted his ass off of X. That hurt his 'brand.' 🤷🏼‍♀️

Now he has his partner and podcast & wants death and destruction, or something.

The squeaky wheel gets the anti-Trump, anti-Musk PR.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:37 PM (NFX2v)

65 After the rape he watched "Quantum Leap."

Not sure how to feel about that.


He wanted to recreate the line from "The Bad Touch" but X-Files wasn't on that night.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:37 PM (2ocoG)

66 There must be a British version of Gloria Allred.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:37 PM (enNUy)

67 Oh, BTW, anybody see this case out of NYC? A sandmaggot got kicked out of the USMC for being a mental case. NYPD hired him anyway. He made it one month, before they fired him for being a mental case, and had him committed to Bellevue. So the NY public school system hired him to be a teacher, naturally. He proceeded to chop up a teenager jogging in a park, and made bail (somehow).

Three days after being sprung on the murder charge? Back at school. They say since he hasn't been convicted of anything, he gets to keep being around choppable children.

Being an Arab is definitely a mitigating factor in the US, too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 01:37 PM (BI5O2)

68 tongue-punch someone's fartclam
......

There's no accounting for TASTE.

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:38 PM (UjdFS)

69 Brand made a major miscalculation by pretending (?) to convert to Christianity instead of Islam. If he'd picked Islam he could've said he was just doing scampish Muslim things and the judge would've touseled his hair and told him to try not to do it again.

Posted by: The Mantastic Tor at November 09, 2026 01:38 PM (ZQ9dP)

70 You get 72 hours to report a rape. If you had a rape kit immediately after the rape, better. This 3 months, 3 years, 3 decades insanity isn't working.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:28 PM (enNUy)

Boy Mom's need to go to torches and pitchforks under the idea of "who among us . . . ."

The gating criteria seems to be whether there is financial or political gain at stake to claim rape years after the fact.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 09, 2026 01:39 PM (6avj3)

71 Fun fact,

Elvis Costello's song "Watching the Detectives" is about him having sex with a girl while she was distracted watching Morse or some such detective show on the telly.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 09, 2026 01:39 PM (a9wD3)

72 Yeah I’m pretty sure if some girl I just meant wanted to stick her tongue in the exit I would be like, “sorry, gotta go give my goldfish a bath”.

And no, that’s not a metaphor.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 01:39 PM (jlI90)

73 Used to watch Brand on and off, still not convinced of the charges because women

but also didnt know he basically thought he was Jesus, thats kind of a dealbreaker for me

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 09, 2026 01:39 PM (fapp/)

74 Just get an adblocker blocker blocker.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:39 PM (RZ+Ww)

75 As I've said before, there were (or are) pending civil and criminal claims brought against male porn performers by their female co-stars for alleged sex assaults that took place while they were filming a porn film.

The accusations are very similar to those against Brand here: "Yes, I agreed to a dozen sex acts, including some really gross shit (which included actual shit), but then this vile rapist did something I somehow didn't consent to, and that was RAPE."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:40 PM (iFTx/)

76 next thing you'll tell me gladiator movies were involved

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 09, 2026 01:40 PM (GZPuW)

77
"I ate his asshole and then we had a threesome and then he fucked me again but then he put his dick in my ass and that's like totally rape!"
==
Yeah. Of course you shouldn't do the no no thing if the stop sign is out. However, if you really meant no, did you call the cops right away, or stay and watch tv and eat popcorn. Then years later after somebody approached you, did you decide it was against your will.
Opportunism is a two way street. He maybe thought he had a free pass, but once you do that, she's got an opportunity that might have a longer shelf life than your opportunity. . .

Posted by: society - you are a garbage fire at November 09, 2026 01:40 PM (anL5R)

78 Unlike Chappelle, Brand was never that funny.

Like Chappelle in the last decade, their acts were mostly rambling commentary, with "jokes" as it occurred to them.

Chappelle is a funny guy, I can still laugh at some of his early stuff. But at some point he became this rambling commenter, who slips in some funny things because he's a funny guy.

I even saw this while defending his last few specials.

However, Brand did impress me on his MTV show, where he appeared genuinely interested in "unity politics" and have dialogs, even seeming friendly toward people with different views.

It was pretty obvious that he was only going to stay leftie until the drugs wore off.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:40 PM (Fi81e)

79 There's no physical evidence, no contemporaneous complaint, and it's decades later.

It's bulls*t and there is nothing that can be done about it.

Russell is going to be targeted in prison, primarily by the guards, but more than likely someone wanting to make a name for themselves.

I'm going to pray for Brand, he's going to need them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 01:41 PM (XV/Pl)

80 So why is quantum a really super small thing as a noun, but a large huge amount as an adjective? English is puzzling sometimes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 01:41 PM (n5tGW)

81 If I had any doubts about Brand's guilt, it would be based on the fact that he always seemed gay. Then again, he's British, and they all seem a bit swishy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 09, 2026 01:41 PM (0Htd1)

82 I watched a video of NYC’s new sharia police arresting some Latin chick for walking her dog.

That place is going fast.

I also can’t wait to see an islamist light the Rockefeller Christmas tree and try and turn it into some kind of secular symbol.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 01:41 PM (jlI90)

83 Three days after being sprung on the murder charge? Back at school. They say since he hasn't been convicted of anything, he gets to keep being around choppable children.

Being an Arab is definitely a mitigating factor in the US, too.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

-------------

This has been going on since the 80s. It is the "rubber room" scandal where NYC can not fire teachers due to union contract, so they have a whole building they have to report to and do nothing, the rubber room, and get paid because the city is scared of liability.

Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 09, 2026 01:41 PM (a9wD3)

84 After the rape he watched "Quantum Leap."

Not sure how to feel about that.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at November 09, 2026 01:25 PM (a9wD3)


"Oh, boy"

Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 01:42 PM (kuZER)

85 I'm sorry, but I'm in the "good bye and good riddance" category on Russel Brand.

You guys do know that he was a patient in a "sexual addiction" clinic at one time, and his own personal assistant testified that he had an "insane sexual appetite"....right?

Seems his lack of scruples caught up with him. He was just stupid enough to put a target on his back by going against the powers that be. Not that he didn't deserve it from the onset. It was merely delayed.

Posted by: Orson at November 09, 2026 01:42 PM (dIske)

86 The regular set was consensual.
He got 10.5 years for surprise anal.

This is precisely why you should always remember to send your date the creepy Ewok gif that says “prepare your anus”

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2026 01:43 PM (lVTX1)

87 Starfucker Rights!! Right Now!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:43 PM (Fi81e)

88 Didn't Chapelle have some crazy guy rush him onstage with a fake knife gun? I mean, should've been hysterically funny if he'd been hurt, no?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:43 PM (enNUy)

89 Is that true? Did they give him 10 years for being a back door bandit?
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus)


Like I said, he seems kind of gay. He probably fantasized that she was a boy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 09, 2026 01:44 PM (0Htd1)

90 Big difference between an insane sexual appetite and rape. I mean, you’re a slob just asking for trouble. But that has no bearing on the actual charges.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 01:44 PM (jlI90)

91 Set = sex

Stupid Ewok thumbs

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2026 01:44 PM (lVTX1)

92 Remember me?

Posted by: VW Quantum at November 09, 2026 01:44 PM (+IsEU)

93 The accusations are very similar to those against Brand here: "Yes, I agreed to a dozen sex acts, including some really gross shit (which included actual shit), but then this vile rapist did something I somehow didn't consent to, and that was RAPE."

Which, as with Train Doe, often really means "but then we did one thing that everyone calls me a slut for".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:45 PM (2ocoG)

94 There must be a British version of Gloria Allred.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:37 PM (enNUy)

Glouria Allred

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:46 PM (RZ+Ww)

95 Like I said, he seems kind of gay.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 09, 2026 01:44 PM (0Htd1)


I do have a type.

Posted by: Katy Perry at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (+IsEU)

96 Some of the young sisters in my church sang this song at service on Sunday. This isn't their performance, but I like this song and I want to share.

https://youtu.be/36NpprWH4qg

Posted by: bonhomme at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (mkw2N)

97 Like I said, he seems kind of gay. He probably fantasized that she was a boy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 09, 2026 01:44 PM (0Htd1)

Why fantasize?

Posted by: Pete Booty at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (RZ+Ww)

98 I'm sorry, but I'm in the "good bye and good riddance" category on Russel Brand.

You guys do know that he was a patient in a "sexual addiction" clinic at one time, and his own personal assistant testified that he had an "insane sexual appetite"....right?

Seems his lack of scruples caught up with him. He was just stupid enough to put a target on his back by going against the powers that be. Not that he didn't deserve it from the onset. It was merely delayed.
Posted by: Orson at November 09, 2026 01:42 PM (dIske)
_________

1. He was surely a gross pig and sexual deviant who treated cheap groupies and starfuckers like ... cheap groupies and starfuckers.

2. That's not illegal

3. That being said, I agree with you that he shoulda been much smarter about who he fucked and how.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (iFTx/)

99 Big difference between an insane sexual appetite and rape. I mean, you’re a slob just asking for trouble. But that has no bearing on the actual charges.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 01:44 PM (jlI90)
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No doubt. But there's a risk in being a starfucker with a star known for excessive drug use.

I think we have to stop apologizing for "recreational use" when we want to punish other excessive actions done in that state.

But nobody can make tough decisions anymore.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (Fi81e)

100 But surely, some illegals and foreigners must be convicted of sex crimes similar to Brand's. What were their sentences? I'll bet not 10 years.
....
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Rotherham scandal
https://tinyurl.com/ydsjvsyx

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (0Htd1)

101
This is why the "don't stick your" rule is written quite generally.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:48 PM (RZ+Ww)

102 Another church song I really like:

Gethsemane, sung by a combined children's choir and the Mormon Tabernacle choir.

https://youtu.be/2GijSuQM5OU

Posted by: bonhomme at November 09, 2026 01:49 PM (mkw2N)

103 In 2024 Marsha Blackburn got 1.9M votes for senate

Last week she got 900k votes for governor.

It’s not exactly an apples to apples comparison but still 1M fewer votes for her in a statewide race.

Fucking crazy.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:49 PM (JQfkC)

104 Speaking of drug-addicted celebrities, I saw the Mathew Perry NF documentary.

I strongly suspect that if he wasn't a star with the correct opinions, he too would someday face decades-old rape allegations.

He wasn't as gross as Brand, but he was a hopeless drunk and drug addict, and quite a hard partier.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

105 @98

>>That being said, I agree with you that he shoulda been much smarter about who he fucked and how.

But 20 years ago?

Come on, that's a little much.

He's also been married for a decade so has been more stable.

As others have said, he's being made an example of.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 01:50 PM (XV/Pl)

106 So what else press worthy is going on in the UK that needs the most pitiful, frequent distractions?!

Well, lots but this is interesting very recent: Reparations

The British government has initiated a "structured dialogue" with Caribbean nations and affected communities regarding a potential formal apology, moving away from unilateral statements drafted in London

Prme Minister Burnham and Downing Street maintain that current British taxpayers cannot be held financially liable or penalized for historical wrongs committed centuries ago.

Instead of direct reparations, Britain has pledged £40 million over three years for regional development and renewable energy projects in the Caribbean, alongside separate debt-restructuring talks.

During the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Antigua and Barbuda, King Charles acknowledged the "profound personal sorrow" and horror of the slave trade, though he did not issue a formal apology or offer financial compensation.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:50 PM (NFX2v)

107 5 So is there no statute of limitations on rape in the UK?

For the record, I put all of this in the same pile as the Cornell case, bad behavior, but not rape.
Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:14 PM (VRTat)

There isn't in Virginia, either...famous case on that...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 01:50 PM (Gb7+b)

108 3. That being said, I agree with you that he shoulda been much smarter about who he fucked and how.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (iFTx/)
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And do you think he should have been smarter about the mass quantities of drugs he consumed?

So do I. Brand serves as a perfect example of what not to do, and long has.

I wanted to go back and unlike Adam Sandler's Bedtime Stories, when I found more about this guy.

He's a good example of things not to do.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:50 PM (Fi81e)

109 I watched a video of NYC’s new sharia police arresting some Latin chick for walking her dog.
--------

The Intersectionality Games are gonna be lit af

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:50 PM (RZ+Ww)

110 In good news, if no one saw it,

James Gunn is out as head of DC at Warner Brothers/Skydance...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 01:51 PM (Gb7+b)

111 This guy is just the one they decided to persecute. There is much more that we will never hear about.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 01:51 PM (MWfyi)

112 Think of all the rape gangs putting a celebrity in jail for "not listening" 22 years ago will stop!

They'll practically halve the rate of rape in the UK!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:52 PM (Fi81e)

113 Also with the TN race…

Blackburn lost 1M votes. But her Democrat opponent got 900k votes in 2026 and 1M in 2024.

She lost 1M votes the Dem lost 100k votes.

Dems showed up, Republicans did not.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:53 PM (JQfkC)

114 So is there no statute of limitations on rape in the UK?
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Well, it's really more of a suggestion.

Posted by: Captain Jack Sparrow at November 09, 2026 01:53 PM (Fi81e)

115 Thank goodness, we're not Britain.
tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic,

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 01:53 PM (jU8k8)

116 The regular set was consensual.
He got 10.5 years for surprise anal.

This is precisely why you should always remember to send your date the creepy Ewok gif that says “prepare your anus”
Posted by: wooga


I was banging this woman on her kitchen table when we heard the front door open.
She said, "It's my husband!
Quick, try the back door!" Thinking back, I really should have ran, but you don't get offers like that everyday.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 01:53 PM (dylrg)

117 I know I'm gonna have to somehow on Planet Zaxxon going to have to get my mancard revoked for this statement, but separate from his jailing - I'm pretty sure a woman consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to you jamming it in her rear door.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:54 PM (RZ+Ww)

118 I watched a video of NYC’s new sharia police arresting some Latin chick for walking her dog.
==
Next they will be ticketing restaurants for serving pork.

Posted by: society - you are a garbage fire at November 09, 2026 01:54 PM (anL5R)

119 I know that makes me some kind of liberal fag.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:54 PM (RZ+Ww)

120 Back in the day, Russel Brand was an absolute sexual deviant, with a raging sex addiction. Everyone knew it. Supposedly Katy Perry's song "E.T." Is about how sexually voracious he was.

Did he rape women during that time? Possibly. And if so that's utterly vile. Supposedly there's no DNA or evidence to back up the claims, making it harder to prove. Becoming a Christian is great, and using the gospel to help you work through your addictions. But a baptism doesn't wash you clean in the eyes of the law.

HOWEVER... I would be more supportive of British courts throwing the book at him if they treated all rape cases this way. They don't. The Muslim grooming gangs happened. Men of certain backgrounds get lenient sentences for rape all the time in the UK. It feels either like a political witch hunt, or racial profiling because he's white, if every other rapist gets a slap on the wrist but not this dude.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 01:55 PM (Toos7)

121 85 I'm sorry, but I'm in the "good bye and good riddance" category on Russel Brand.

You guys do know that he was a patient in a "sexual addiction" clinic at one time, and his own personal assistant testified that he had an "insane sexual appetite"....right?

Seems his lack of scruples caught up with him. He was just stupid enough to put a target on his back by going against the powers that be. Not that he didn't deserve it from the onset. It was merely delayed.
Posted by: Orson at November 09, 2026 01:42 PM (dIske)

This - 100%. He thought he was untouchable (see what he wrote in his book - he and John Bolton could be brothers with how they thought what they did and said in public and on paper didn't matter)...he was, until he wasn't...



Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 01:55 PM (Gb7+b)

122 I watched a video of NYC’s new sharia police arresting some Latin chick for walking her dog.
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Sensitive people who live in blue states really need to consider how much dogs offend Muslims before getting one!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:55 PM (Fi81e)

123 I wonder when Conservatives will get justice for being gang raped by the Republicans.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 09, 2026 01:55 PM (4NO2D)

124 But surely, some illegals and foreigners must be convicted of sex crimes similar to Brand's. What were their sentences? I'll bet not 10 years.
....
Posted by: Elric The Blade
Rotherham scandal
https://tinyurl.com/ydsjvsyx
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 09, 2026 01:47 PM (0Htd1)
_________

Yup. Some of those animals did end up getting convicted and significant prison sentences. But most got off scot free, the crimes were true sex crimes and not the made-up shit they got Brand for, and the entire rape ring was covered up for over 10 years before public outcry forced some actions to be taken.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:56 PM (iFTx/)

125 109 I watched a video of NYC’s new sharia police arresting some Latin chick for walking her dog.
--------

The Intersectionality Games are gonna be lit af

Posted by: ...
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Part of the trick is, if she exercised her Constitutional rights she would be put in prison.
We live in an extra-judicial nation.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 01:56 PM (jU8k8)

126 👉🏼Mediate

Bruce Springsteen Fan Club Shuts Down After ‘Breaking Point’ Over El-Sayed Endorsement

😱🤣

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:56 PM (NFX2v)

127 Mediate for correct site

Apologies

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:57 PM (NFX2v)

128 The funny thing is Democrats will sell out every dog in the country to them. And the women, gays and trannies. It's already mostly a done deal. All over but the barking.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:57 PM (RZ+Ww)

129 La'Shondra's EBT card is reparations.

Posted by: Change my mind at November 09, 2026 01:57 PM (cBj2I)

130 @117

>>I'm pretty sure a woman consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to you jamming it in her rear door.

It was 20 years ago, she never made a contemporaneous complaint, Russel Brand has been notorious for his entire time in the public eye.

She could have brought complaints at any time before now.

It's bullsh*t targeting of Brand because he's no longer of the body.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 01:57 PM (XV/Pl)

131 Part of the trick is, if she exercised her Constitutional rights she would be put in prison.
We live in an extra-judicial nation.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 01:56 PM (jU8k
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Post-

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:57 PM (Fi81e)

132 Didn't Chapelle have some crazy guy rush him onstage with a fake knife gun? I mean, should've been hysterically funny if he'd been hurt, no?
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:43 PM (enNUy)
___

Yes, and Charlie Kirk defended Chapelle back in 2022:

https://tinyurl.com/53r54mjr

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 01:58 PM (qesug)

133 I don't know the details of the dog story but I have been saying for a couple years we already have Sharia Courts here but it has been kept nice and quiet.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:58 PM (RZ+Ww)

134 Has the NYPD cops union commented on that video with the lady with the dog and the two cops?

Posted by: mr tmz at November 09, 2026 01:58 PM (rJ48h)

135 Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 01:57 PM (XV/Pl)

I exicitly said separate from the jailing. I was answering some other general sentiments being expressed.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:59 PM (RZ+Ww)

136 Part of the trick is, if she exercised her Constitutional rights she would be put in prison.
We live in an extra-judicial nation.
===
And how does history show that turns out kids?

Posted by: Mr. Sunshine at November 09, 2026 01:59 PM (anL5R)

137 What European country was it where a migrant raped woman, and the courts let him off because in his home country, rape wasn't illegal and he didn't know what he was doing was wrong?

A tweet was also making the rounds of a migrant arguing, AKSHUALLY, rape is ok if the husband needs sex right then, and also during war.

Choice people, we invited into our culture. I'm really going to hate mandated Sharia when the time comes.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 01:59 PM (Toos7)

138 She probably took it as a bad night for the decade or so afterward that Brand would continue his drug-addled rampage through women, impressed, as rumor would have it, with his endowment.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:59 PM (Fi81e)

139 A fair sentence would have had Henry Nowak's relatives slowly carving digwog up with his own blade?

Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2026 01:59 PM (LHPAg)

140 I'm pretty sure a woman consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to you jamming it in her rear door.

It was 20 years ago, she never made a contemporaneous complaint, Russel Brand has been notorious for his entire time in the public eye.

She could have brought complaints at any time before now.

It's bullsh*t targeting of Brand because he's no longer of the body.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


Russell Brand held me up at gunpoint 20 years ago and took $1500 from me.

I have the same amount of evidence. Think the cops will do anything?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 01:59 PM (dylrg)

141 After or outside is rather semantic.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 02:00 PM (jU8k8)

142
Gas is under $3.00 a gallon cash around here now.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 02:01 PM (eRlcH)

143 If the final two counts hold, dems will have won 97% of the challenged senate races. This is absolutely crazy, I still find it hard to believe, but find no good facts to tell me it was fraud. It boggles my mind that it could just be a blue wave.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 02:01 PM (n5tGW)

144 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 01:58 PM (qesug)

I have long been of the opinion that you should never apologize to, be nice to, or otherwise have any extra effort courtesy towards any lib.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 02:02 PM (RZ+Ww)

145 "While most waited until after the 2023 media exposé prompted police to call for witnesses, court testimony revealed that a few complainants had confided in colleagues, friends, or managers at or near the time of the incidents, and at least one woman was treated at a rape crisis center on the same day as one of the assault"

From Google...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 02:03 PM (Gb7+b)

146 It boggles my mind that it could just be a blue wave.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 02:01 PM (n5tGW)


Yup... Who had blue Texas and blue Alaska on their Bingo card ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 02:03 PM (+gK6I)

147 Just because you're born-again by God does not mean your past sins get erased by man.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 02:03 PM (qesug)

148 rickb told me 20 years ago that Brand took his $1500, yo

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 02:04 PM (enNUy)

149 James Gunn is out as head of DC at Warner Brothers/Skydance...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 01:51 PM (Gb7+b)

Good, but what happens to his projects in the pipeline? Do they bring back the old actors, like Gal Gadot and Henry Camille, stick with the new failing crop, or scrap it all and start fresh?

I think the doomsday ticket presales making more than supergirl's entire theatrical run was the nail in the coffin for the new owners.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 02:04 PM (Toos7)

150 So they're saying he kissed a girl and she didn't like it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 02:04 PM (bFu5X)

151 Russell Brand held me up at gunpoint 20 years ago and took $1500 from me.

Then he watched an episode of Kolchak!

Posted by: far cry at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (+IsEU)

152 "Gas is under $3.00 a gallon cash around here now.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"

Thank you Democrats!

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (MWfyi)

153 I have long been of the opinion that you should never apologize to, be nice to, or otherwise have any extra effort courtesy towards any lib.
==
True libs, like that Jennifer Welch chick are skin jobs. Like Edgar. Something else is living inside of them now.

And as bad as the outside looks now, you really don't want to see what is on the inside.

Posted by: not a man in black but at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (anL5R)

154 Gas is under $3.00 a gallon cash around here now.

Oil prices dropped like $30 the second the media announced the Democrats had won. There's probably some very interesting data about that, but we'll see if anyone goes looking.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (2ocoG)

155 Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not seeing rape. Just skeezy poon hound behavior. Which might, indeed, be illegal in England.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (s1VwS)

156 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 02:01 PM (n5tGW)

AI assisted psy op is still a *possibility*. AI tech is known to be considerably more advanced than what has been released to the public.

Put that up against Republicans running the same old campaign playbooks, and with a media in freaky lockstep, you *could* have a country ripe for the plucking. Especially with surveillance and targeting being the way it is.

Think of what they did to people over covid alone, likely without any technical assistance.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (RZ+Ww)

157
Palate cleanser:

Ellen Alaverdyan live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maRy7AT-N_c

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (y9nCu)

158 Russell Brand held me up at gunpoint 20 years ago and took $1500 from me.

I have the same amount of evidence. Think the cops will do anything?
Posted by: rickb223
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Ah. The Christine Blasey Ford Gambit. Have you felt compelled to have an additional door installed in your home?

/S

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (XeU6L)

159 147 Just because you're born-again by God does not mean your past sins get erased by man.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 02:03 PM (qesug)

Dude who was famously convicted of rape in VA has stranger dangered a college student and then disppeared. 2 decades+ later, b/c of AA, he followed the steps and found her and wrote her an apology letter about the event. Yes, prosecutors didn't care he fixed his life, nor should they. He f*cked her over, and he did get convicted and sentenced to prision and his confession stood (his lawyer screamed about getting it tossed b/c it was the sterling evidence)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 02:06 PM (Gb7+b)

160 Here's the thing about "Reasonable doubt", if you say your accusation fails to sound reasonable, but it's allowed because you're an emotional female victim whose life was rather silently ruined 22 years ago despite not being able to establish that you told anybody.

This is simply asking for reasonability to be discarded as a test. Instead, you are asking "Substitute sympathy" in that she might have been really, really upset silently for 22 years, because that's what women do.

But that's not a reasonable doubt, is it? It's an emotional one.

Women are asking for an entirely different standard--if ONLY who is responsible when both parties under under the influence of drugs and booze.

Not discriminating on the basis of sex has been a FAILURE, and not even women want that.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 02:06 PM (Fi81e)

161 Yup... Who had blue Texas and blue Alaska on their Bingo card ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 02:03 PM (+gK6I)

I absolutely didn't but that's why I said I would not predict anything. That I was only sure of one thing coming to pass -Senator Sayed.

IMO we are entering a *very* strange time. I think it's going to get surreal. I've been saying this since June, I just didn't think it was coming in this form.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 02:07 PM (RZ+Ww)

162 Now imagine what the DOJ could do if it put together a hollywood division and prosecuted every star/director/producer for every woman/boy that had a claim against them.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 02:07 PM (sKqQm)

163 132 Didn't Chapelle have some crazy guy rush him onstage with a fake knife gun? I mean, should've been hysterically funny if he'd been hurt, no?
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:43 PM (enNUy)
___

Yes, and Charlie Kirk defended Chapelle back in 2022:

https://tinyurl.com/53r54mjr
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 01:58 PM (qesug)

Chapelle has spent the last several years going out of his way to antagonize transsexuals. So seeing him side with a gay furry who assassinated someone on behalf of his tranny lover is something to see. It shows how irrational Chapelle's hatred is; even self-preservation isn't enough to sway him. That's bone-deep ugly.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 02:07 PM (HFrEr)

164 Russell Brand will never be royal.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 02:08 PM (NFX2v)

165 143 If the final two counts hold, dems will have won 97% of the challenged senate races. This is absolutely crazy, I still find it hard to believe, but find no good facts to tell me it was fraud. It boggles my mind that it could just be a blue wave.


it was fraud

they front-loaded the fake ballots (during EV) and they went way way overboard. then they called their wins right fucking away before anyone could check on anything

much much safer than adding ballots at the end/after

very smart

hopefully it only can work once?

a census might help, otherwise we're fucked electorally

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 02:08 PM (qBivk)

166 rickb told me 20 years ago that Brand took his $1500, yo
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I vividly recall rickb owed me $1500 20 years ago. He said he had the money except on the way over he got held up at gunpoint by Brand. I'll never forget it. The tears, the traumatic event. I still haven't gotten my money.

Posted by: corroboration unlimited at November 09, 2026 02:08 PM (anL5R)

167 It boggles my mind that it could just be a blue wave.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 02:01 PM (n5tGW)


Yup... Who had blue Texas and blue Alaska on their Bingo card ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 02:03 PM (+gK6I)
________

Democraps turned out like it was a presidential election, in numbers similar to (but less than) the 2024 election. They successfully nationalized what were basically local elections.

We turned out like a normal midterm election. It's no surprise that we got hammered.

I'm sure there was the normal Democrap cheating. But we cleaned their clocks only two years ago. I doubt they somehow managed to cheat that much more last week.

It didn't help that we had mostly shit to mediocre candidates that might not have done well even if turnout was better.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 02:08 PM (iFTx/)

168 Just because you're born-again by God does not mean your past sins get erased by man.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 02:03 PM (qesug)
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Yeah, but it doesn't mean that accusations against you should be accepted because you used to be a guy without much control.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 02:09 PM (Fi81e)

169
"This isn’t an 'electoral wave,' it’s a temper tantrum." - Eugene Robinson, 2010.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 02:09 PM (eRlcH)

170 Russell Brand held me up at gunpoint 20 years ago and took $1500 from me.

I have the same amount of evidence. Think the cops will do anything?


The incoming governor of Texas sexually assaulted my in a Dallas department store 20 years ago. It is seared, seared in my memory

Which store? I dunno. Why year? I dunno. And hey why are you questioning a survivor?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 02:09 PM (sKqQm)

171
It didn't help that we had mostly shit to mediocre candidates that might not have done well even if turnout was better.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 02:08 PM (iFTx/)

And their candidates were better ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 02:10 PM (+gK6I)

172 IMO we are entering a *very* strange time. I think it's going to get surreal. I've been saying this since June, I just didn't think it was coming in this form.


three dots we've both been calling for this for a while

I'm calmer now bc it was easy to SAY but it's harder to see/live thru

the fedgov is going to collapse

the boomers are going to try to take the entire world with them into the grave

what do my predictions look like in reality? what IS chaos?

we get to find out

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 02:10 PM (qBivk)

173 "This isn’t an 'electoral wave,' it’s a temper tantrum." - Eugene Robinson, 2010.

In 2008 people voted for a tax cut and a 3000% reduction in their health insurance. They got Obamacare.

In 2026 it seems people voted for lower gas prices from the people pledged to end fossil fuels.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 02:11 PM (sKqQm)

174
Which store? I dunno.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 02:09 PM (sKqQm)

The Jerk Store?

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 02:11 PM (RZ+Ww)

175 It didn't help that we had mostly shit to mediocre candidates that might not have done well even if turnout was better.


hilarious

several Dems were convicted felons, or had dropped out of their races

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 02:11 PM (qBivk)

176 we get to find out

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 02:10 PM (qBivk)

Wheeeeeeeee...

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 02:11 PM (RZ+Ww)

177 Bruce Springsteen had a fan club?
lol

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 02:11 PM (UjdFS)

178 It didn't help that we had mostly shit to mediocre candidates that might not have done well even if turnout was better.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 02:08 PM (iFTx/)

And their candidates were better ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 02:10 PM (+gK6I)
______

No, they were much worse. But candidate quality means nothing to Democraps, especially the TDS sufferers (which now seem to be basically 90% of the party).

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 02:11 PM (iFTx/)

179 And their candidates were better ?

The Democrat candidates were terrible even by Democrat standards, but they had the power of tens of millions of mentally ill women who can never forgive Trump for marrying Melania instead of them.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:12 PM (2ocoG)

180
the boomers are going to try to take the entire world with them into the grave

__________

Can we lay off the Boomer Hate? I'm 70 and have lived a quiet, productive life, trying not to harm anyone. And all I hear are bloodthirsty calls for me to off myself. It's grown tiresome and I have a diminishing capacity for tolerating it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 02:13 PM (eRlcH)

181 In 2026 it seems people voted for lower gas prices from the people pledged to end fossil fuels.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 02:11 PM (sKqQm)
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Nancy Pelosi of the "Affordability!" Party called a tax rebate "crumbs".

Barely enough to buy a new freezer full of Jeni's!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 02:13 PM (Fi81e)

182 I despise James O’Brien……I don’t know what the true story is about Russell Brand, but I do know that they didn’t give a shit about any of this until he came to Christ. Cornell 7 all over again. Funny how they couldn’t get Jimmy Saville or the Muslim rape gangs sorted out.

Posted by: Cookie at November 09, 2026 02:13 PM (mg147)

183 Welch's podcast has lost 22 sponsors. Schadenfreude, it's what's for lunch

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 02:13 PM (FroOw)

184 165. Posted by: Black Orchid

On point.

And also held back a few 'provisional' ballots just in case the rare squeaker. (Lancaster County)

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 02:13 PM (NFX2v)

185 "Satan has deceived 1/3 of the angels, imagine what he is capable of doing with a generation that does not read the Bible."

— Charles Spurgeon

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 09, 2026 02:13 PM (qesug)

186 This Brand thing is another communist milestone in lowering the birthrate.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (jU8k8)

187 One of our new senators probably spent time in a mental institution during the course of his campaign.

...

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (Fi81e)

188 Can we lay off the Boomer Hate? I'm 70 and have lived a quiet, productive life, trying not to harm anyone. And all I hear are bloodthirsty calls for me to off myself. It's grown tiresome and I have a diminishing capacity for tolerating it.


it's a zeitgeist commentary, not personal to anyone

the sheer size of that generation controls the zeitgeist

ergo, energy is waning as they wane. negativity is rising as they face aging and death

it is what it is

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (qBivk)

189 Welch's podcast has lost 22 sponsors. Schadenfreude, it's what's for lunch

She might have to get a real job.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (2ocoG)

190
One of our new senators probably spent time in a mental institution during the course of his campaign.

____________

I think he's going to be out in two years.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 02:15 PM (eRlcH)

191 IMO we are entering a *very* strange time. I think it's going to get surreal. I've been saying this since June, I just didn't think it was coming in this form.
==
Its been surreal for quite a while. Since they fired up the large hadron collider (short run 201 then 2010 -2013, 2015-2018, July 2022 June 2026. The weirdness is dialed up each time.

Posted by: Dr. Octogonapuss at November 09, 2026 02:15 PM (anL5R)

192 Brand seems like swine. Fine and well.

But I have rape accusation fatigue. A prosecution for sex crimes that occurred long ago makes sense in the context of child victims or in the case of stranger rape (say where DNA finally discloses who the assailant was for the first time). But date rape cases or the equivalent, where all the facts, including the attacker's identity, have been known for a decade or more? There's too much potential for miscarriages of justice when all there is is he said/she said long, long after.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 02:15 PM (HFrEr)

193 Welch's podcast has lost 22 sponsors. Schadenfreude, it's what's for lunch

She might have to get a real job.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (2ocoG)
___________

I'm sure there are some bridges and back-alleys and truck stops where she can find work

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 02:15 PM (iFTx/)

194 One of our new senators probably spent time in a mental institution during the course of his campaign.


And he's the only elected Democrat who's refrained from going full-throttle "Elon and Trump must be executed by firing squad".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:16 PM (2ocoG)

195 I'm pretty sanguine about this tbh

just hold steady

I'm also fully losing interest in our electoral (or other) politics because soon it won't matter

it just won't

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 02:16 PM (qBivk)

196 Are the police officers in the Henry Nowak case being charged? The ones who denied that he was stabbed and did not call for medical help? How hard could it have been to just check if he had been stabbed?

Posted by: Decaf at November 09, 2026 02:16 PM (uKqbA)

197 Did Chapelle actually side with the furries in his leaked standup vids? I saw the clip about Charlie breathing easier, and the one where he implied he's looking up at us from hell.

Chappelle has every right to show he's vile by saying he breathes easier now, knowing Charlie is in the ground, and implying he's down in the underworld with Satan. His right. I also have the right to no longer care when the Cancel Coven comes for him next.

I'm sure pregnant woman breathed a sigh of relief after George Floyd died, knowing he'd no longer stick a gun to their pregnant bellies.

See, I can do your brand of tasteless comedy too, Chappelle! But I doubt you find it funny, since it's your sacred cow.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 02:16 PM (Toos7)

198
Welch's podcast has lost 22 sponsors. Schadenfreude, it's what's for lunch

_________

She doesn't have the juice any more.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 02:16 PM (eRlcH)

199
I have long been of the opinion that you should never apologize to, be nice to, or otherwise have any extra effort courtesy towards any lib.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 02:02 PM (RZ+Ww)




Some gamer douche got his ass repeatedly beaten in-game by my nephew, so he went rooting through his old chats. Found some stuff where nephew said some really offensive shit... WHEN HE WAS 13. Nephew got locked out while they decided if they were going to kick him out of both the game and his gaming team. I told him not to apologize, that they would smell the blood in the water and absolutely savage him.

He didn't listen to his uncle. Spent 2 days working on the apology video, posted it and the "punishment" was even worse than he was afraid of. I had to resist the urge to tell him "I told you so".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 02:17 PM (y9nCu)

200 Can we lay off the Boomer Hate? I'm 70 and have lived a quiet, productive life, trying not to harm anyone. And all I hear are bloodthirsty calls for me to off myself. It's grown tiresome and I have a diminishing capacity for tolerating it.

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I might be boomer, I might be "Generation Jones", as some are calling it recently.

I mainly consider the source. I eschew overgeneralization because it's a mental error. So, it doesn't bother me when people are showing their mental errors.

You know what you've done and how you lived.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 02:17 PM (Fi81e)

201 But I have rape accusation fatigue. A prosecution for sex crimes that occurred long ago makes sense in the context of child victims or in the case of stranger rape (say where DNA finally discloses who the assailant was for the first time). But date rape cases or the equivalent, where all the facts, including the attacker's identity, have been known for a decade or more? There's too much potential for miscarriages of justice when all there is is he said/she said long, long after.

Yup. There's also a new stupider version. Over the weekend the media wound up Democrats by pointing out that Stephen Miller defended accused rapists in college.

Those accused rapists being, of course, the Duke Lacrosse boys, where the hooker's in prison now and the prosecutor was disbarred.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:17 PM (2ocoG)

202 Oil prices dropped like $30 the second the media announced the Democrats had won. There's probably some very interesting data about that, but we'll see if anyone goes looking.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:05 PM (2ocoG)


Oil futures are priced at the Brent Crude, which is only a commodities market for investment, not delivery like the West Texas Intermediate. This means that the players can run the prices if they are big enough.
One of the reasons Trump appears to have wanted to lift the embargo on Russian oil is to break the stranglehold those investors appear to have on the futures market.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 09, 2026 02:18 PM (rbvCR)

203 So, after patching up the leak in the master bath, a small pinhole apparently sprung over the great room. I clambered my fat ass up there, marked what I thought was the leak in a hot water line, went downstairs and built a repair section and cut off the hot water at the heater. The I drug my ass back up there and cut the pipe and, motherfucker, it was a live cold line. I crimped in the new section with water gushing out screaming down to my wife to move the couch and turn off the can lights before I was electrocuted.

I many gallons flowed out before I had the section in. It's still not a great splice so I will probably have to section it again. I'm not even sure that was the pipe I needed to splice. I may have effed up and marked the wrong pipe. It was bad enough that a 2'x2' section of the ceiling drywall fell down.

Fuck my life. I am taking a smoke break after shop vaccuming up the bulk of the water and debris from the great room floor, which mercifully is tile.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 09, 2026 02:18 PM (4NO2D)

204 It boggles my mind that it could just be a blue wave.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 02:01 PM (n5tGW)

The signs were there for anyone who wanted to look.

Look at special election results this year. Huge shift to Dems in red states, including Texas where there were two state rep flips. The elections in 2015, huge shift to Dems in VA and NJ. Every single poll on the war with Iran had 2:1 or worse opposition.

But much of the right and especially here was head in the sand, refusing to believe what was happening in front of their eyes.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 02:19 PM (JQfkC)

205 They cheated just as they have before only better.
Thune would not pass the SAVE ACT.
Thune would not pass the SAVE ACT.
And none of the insider staff could over come the hidden hand that guided the election. And they disregard our discontent.
This is the world we live in.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 02:19 PM (jU8k8)

206 Those accused rapists being, of course, the Duke Lacrosse boys, where the hooker's in prison now and the prosecutor was disbarred.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 02:17 PM (2ocoG)
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Isn't it amazing how little the progs update their information?

They just half-remember things to get upset about.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 02:20 PM (Fi81e)

207 Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 02:16 PM (qBivk)

I'm back where I was in 2014 and it never really left me anyway.

Trump did a lot of good and if they can help it they want as few people as possible to know what he really did. So we have a lot reshaping to come. They need him seen as a failure and a pedo. So I'm waiting for New Epstein Hearings which really aren't.

He showed it was possible to take on the Machine and play them to a draw for a time. Even give them a few big ass bumps and bruises.

That is huge. It is information they don't want known. They want to make sure "his kind never rises again".

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 02:20 PM (RZ+Ww)

208 "This is absolutely crazy, I still find it hard to believe, but find no good facts to tell me it was fraud."

I'd like to see some conservative areas do a real examination of the ballots, to see if they matched the claimed results. It sounded like the machines were programmed to skim 15% of Republican numbers and flip them to Dem. Or maybe just add 15% to Dems, though that would mean there would not be enough ballots.

TJM says the audit by Jill Stein (I think was the libertarian candidate) found the boxes of ballot had maybe 20% of what they were claimed to be holding.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2026 02:20 PM (vbXSk)

209 Crude still has to be refined. For that you need refineries. All the "Affordability NOW!" in the world is not going to refine oil at a faster pace.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 02:21 PM (Fi81e)

Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform

On one hand, I expected a softening. I floated the idea that if Trump had softened on the immigration raids the summer before the election, the GOP might have done a little better. (Emphases on "might" and "a little.")

And who knows: This may be necessary to stop the Democrats from winning it all in 2028 and packing the country floor to rafters with immigrants (and immediately giving them full voting rights).

But on the other hand: this is a disaster.

I guess it depends on how serious Trump is about this.

Calling this a reversal is a pretty big understatement. Aside from tariffs, there has been no more consistent policy position in the Trump administration than "deport them all," and now Trump is suggesting that he can work with the Democrats on an amnesty bill that would normalize illegal aliens who have been here for some period of time -- say 10-15 years.

Trump on his immigration policy:


Trump: "I think it both helped and hurt. I think I got an A+ for closing up the border. I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out. But I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs, that-- that created one violation, or breaking of the law, and that was that they came into the country illegally."

Douthat: "So you think your deportation policy--" / "Went too far--"
Trump: "Too tough."
Douthat: "It was too tough?"
Trump: "I think it might be too tough, yeah."

Videos at the link.

People have said that Trump is an example of A/B market testing on the presidential level. He's constantly talking and pitching policy choices. He doesn't know if he'll follow through or not. He listens for the audience reaction to decide on "A" or "B."

That's mostly been good for us.

But there is a down side, and we may be seeing it now.

I've also heard that people with agendas always want to be the last person to talk to Trump, because his beliefs are often formed by the last person he talked with.

I guess John Thune and Co. were the last people he talked to.

Hello friends. I hope you are enjoying this cold and bright fall day.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:10 PM




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1 THE BLADE

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (iFTx/)

2 1st

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (AKptf)

3 F- you , Blade!

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (AKptf)

4 No more H1B is a great change!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (NnhvP)

5 Calling this a reversal is a pretty big understatement. Aside from tariffs, there has been no more consistent policy position in the Trump administration than "deport them all," and now Trump is suggesting that he can work with the Democrats on an amnesty bill that would normalize illegal aliens who have been here for some period of time -- say 10-15 years.

As I predicted.

Posted by: Archimedes = That guy who always says he predicted it, but in this case he did at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Riz8t)

6 Comprehensive immigration reform=amnesty

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Cqx++)

7 I hope to see it just so I can see the cucked pro-Trump media defend amnesty. They already did it with the Epstein files and a "neocon war", so this will finish the trifecta.

Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (lNMaG)

8 Ace, unless...this is something they are already doing! I think after Noem, they pulled back some incompetence.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (AKptf)

9
I'm just skimming now. Can't take the details.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (XJ22o)

10 This is just the newest example of "if Pelosi and Schumer had buttered Trump up in 2017 the Dems would already have Communist utopia". They chose otherwise then, and they are absolutely going to choose otherwise now.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (2ocoG)

11 Hello friends. I hope you are enjoying this cold and bright fall day.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

It is a beautiful day, but it's 62 degrees here in NoVa. Needs to be colder.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ)

12 So we kindly go after employers of illegals

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (enNUy)

13 Dark and rainy here. We need the rain though, so it could be worse.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (lFFaq)

14 Trump is not an ideological man. He will cut deals where he can in order to keep a few of his priorities. He will want border protection and military spending. He will exchange most everything else, including health care subsides and student loans etc.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (wrEn7)

15 People have said that Trump is an example of A/B market testing on the presidential level. He's constantly talking and pitching policy choices. He doesn't know if he'll follow through or not. He listens for the audience reaction to decide on "A" or "B."

That's mostly been good for us.

But there is a down side, and we may be seeing it now.


Sorry, but that's a guy with no principles, just what he can get away with. FTR, I don't think that's Trump, really, but he's now trimming his sails to forestall an even bigger disaster in '28. The time to solve the problem for real was 20-40 years ago, by closing the border and expelling the illegals before they became a huge voting block.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t)

16 I floated the idea that if Trump had softened on the immigration raids the summer before the election, the GOP might have done a little better. (Emphases on "might" and "a little.")
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How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.

I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)

17 >>>14 Trump is not an ideological man. He will cut deals where he can in order to keep a few of his priorities. He will want border protection and military spending. He will exchange most everything else, including health care subsides and student loans etc.

ooof

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (1wjle)

18 I don't get it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (wVcYX)

19 The best that appears to be politically possible is to limit migration as much as possible while striking a diplomatic tone. The Democrats won't offer up any deal worth taking.

Keep in mind Trump has floated the idea of a deal with Democrats on basically every topic under the sun and nothing has ever come of it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (okun6)

20 Meh, more Democrat, communist and societal welfare leeches incoming.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Q/FnY)

21 So we kindly go after employers of illegals

Posted by: NCKate


If Trump couldn't get it done, who will?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t)

22 >>>13 Dark and rainy here. We need the rain though, so it could be worse.

oh well. At least some rain was needed.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (1wjle)

23 Could be just another head feint.

Trump offers the left a deal he's pretty sure they won't take.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (viF8m)

24 Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.

All true, but network news/CNN/MS NOW viewers were never told that. And a lot of people, including a lot of conservatives, don't believe anything unless Jake Tapper says it.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:16 PM (2ocoG)

25 How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.

I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)

This is mostly a case of needing to keep things quiet and try to direct media attention to other things.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:16 PM (okun6)

26 Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of...



It's unfair that you kicked those illegals out of our country that will undercut me and work cheaper! So I'm going to vote for the party that will let them back in!

Why am I unemployed???

Posted by: Jose Legal American

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (dylrg)

27 >>>Ace, unless...this is something they are already doing! I think after Noem, they pulled back some incompetence.

well after she was fired, there was an early report that Markwayne Mullin would be scaling back on the raids, but conservatives protested and then he seemed to re-commit to the raids.

I don't know if they've slackened.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (1wjle)

28 IF he had ever had Balls, he would have been putting Employers in Prison as fast or faster than he was deporting illegal aliens.

Posted by: garrett at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (k1S9h)

29 >>>How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.


well their policy was to go after the criminals, but they also said that if they encountered illegals in the course of a raid to get a criminal, they would arrest that illegal as well. The point was to pressure sanctuary jurisdictions to just turn over illegals at the jailhouses but they refused.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (1wjle)

30 I've not seen any difference here in Charlotte. Overnight arrests haven't changed. East Charlotte is no go area of illegals. If anything, more moved here to be safe.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (enNUy)

31 Meh.
I'm not going to worry about what the Trumpster is saying. His actions will be sufficient. I don't see him as the kind of guy who will go wobbly.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (2WIwB)

32
This doesn't seem very Stephen Miller-esque. Resignation on the horizon?

Posted by: Your Blackpill of the Hour at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (XJ22o)

33 The Dems never compromise.

Posted by: davidt at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (Q+gd/)

34 I'm still in Camp Deport Them All. And for those of you who say, "But that's not how we win elections!" I would like to point out the 20+ million new Democrat voters that just magically appeared. Cleaning up the voter rolls and deporting illegals that vote will help us win elections.

Posted by: pookysgirl believes in borders at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (Wt5PA)

35 Is this some kind of Sun Tzu strategery?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 12:20 PM (wVcYX)

36 Trump says a lot of things.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 12:20 PM (2Ez/1)

37 IDK. We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.

Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (rxwdW)

38 Well...I hope he's bluffing and ICE will deport tens of millions anyway.

You never know with Trump. We'll see.

I don't care if they have jobs and are here for three decades. Do they pay US taxes? Or send money to their countries to support more invading?

Are they hyphenated Americans? They owe no loyalty til they take the citizenship test. Even then they owe no loyalty, but can at least speak and read English. As they should be able to obtain driver's licenses.

I hope he gets an earful from others as to what we voted for. Too tired to scream THIS IS BS!

I will continue with DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (hzuYO)

39 This doesn't seem very Stephen Miller-esque. Resignation on the horizon?

Miller, Homan, and Mullin all said post-election that the raids will continue.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (2ocoG)

40
I've not seen any difference here in Charlotte. Overnight arrests haven't changed. East Charlotte is no go area of illegals. If anything, more moved here to be safe.
Posted by: NCKate

================

Illegals own a food niche in San Diego. Illegal taco carts on downtown sidewalks and the public park. I mean, the taco carts themselves are illegal, the whole thing going on in broad daylight and nightlight, no threat to them whatsoever.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (XJ22o)

41 Good golly, y’all.
Trump doesn’t take a dump without having a plan.
Given his record over the past decade, I would not bet against him.
No, he’s not perfect. But he fights and delivers, and has been fighting without much support.
Maybe take a deep breath.
But buying more ammo is still top of the list.

Posted by: RI Red at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (HdjQ+)

42 Watch what Trump does, not what he says. He just appointed Stephen Miller as chief of staff at the White House. He’s going to sound all conciliatory to the press, but Miller’s appointment shows he’s going to double down on deportation.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (ZVgZ4)

43 After President Trump.is gone and the Socialists take over we will be swamped with the world population.

Might as well get started to end it all then

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (MRapk)

44 Oh
Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (MRapk)

45 All those businesses that rely on illegal immigrant labor are salivating about amnesty not realizing how they're going to get bent over and railed. As soon as they get their "citizenship" papers, you can't pay them like indentured serfs. And right outside your factory door are going to be the union organizers signing up illiterate 3rd worlders who are now "citizens". Democrats get new voters AND more money

Posted by: Stacy0311 at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (etlz2)

46 Not really a surprise... and yes, we will see a return to some level of immigration, for two key reasons.

One, the West (in general) and the USA (specifically) has lost it's optimisim/work ethic/sense of purpose. It has become jejune, lifeless, and disoriented, without challenge...
Second, every (and I mean every) program/plan/design in Western governments is predicated on increasing populations over time. The idea of decreasing population is almost... frightning to our betters (see the venom spewed daily at Japan for NOT importing more, all dressed in "what will they do with fewer people?"

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (pfXMo)

47 Trump pushing an amnesty would be like promising no new wars and then getting into a war with Iran.

Would never happen. Trust the process.

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (gw3RI)

48 IDK. We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.

Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.


Yeah, I don't get this alleged flip in Hispanics. I think it's a smoke screen for the very extensive cheat operation that was happening, but who knows.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:22 PM (2ocoG)

49 Widespread ICE raids continue in the Indianapolis area.

Posted by: toddg at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (ceFtv)

50 Great, just what we need, more of the worlds dregs on the taxpayers payroll.

Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (En+fz)

51 Is this some kind of Sun Tzu strategery?"

Shih Tzu...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (pfXMo)

52 IDK. We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.

Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (rxwdW)


Easy answer: vote tallies don’t reflect actual votes.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (ZVgZ4)

53 Trump is not an ideological man. He will cut deals where he can in order to keep a few of his priorities. He will want border protection and military spending. He will exchange most everything else, including health care subsides and student loans etc.
--
I can't even get mad because I know there's nothing I can do anymore.

I just keep going back to Trump is 80 years old.

We're bargaining that the Trump shit sandwich will be Wonder Bread and not whole wheat, I guess ...?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (Cw3N8)

54 Not sure Trump softening on this issue helps. Left wants open borders. MAGA wants deportations and closed borders. Moderation seen as retreat by MAGA? How much will they tolerate? Likely neither side will like whatever he ends up doing.

Posted by: scampydog at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (2bFN5)

55 If Trump pulls the plug and abandons his voters now to the people that tried to kill and then jail him in that order and want to jail his whole family, it would be totally out of character but I am always willing to be surprised.

I am not surprised at how he sounds. He likes to say things that give them UNEXPECTED things to respond to.

That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)

56 All those businesses that rely on illegal immigrant labor are salivating about amnesty not realizing how they're going to get bent over and railed"

"That's the next guy's problem"
/current MBA teaching

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:25 PM (pfXMo)

57 33 The Dems never compromise.

Of course they do. Then they lie, and don't do what they said they would do.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:25 PM (Riz8t)

58
That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)

I remember when Trump was going to sell us out on gun control and green energy and it didn't happen.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (okun6)

59 We're bargaining that the Trump shit sandwich will be Wonder Bread and not whole wheat, I guess ...?"

Roman Meal...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (pfXMo)

60 How many illegals does Tyson employ in NC? It's funny when you have an Aztec looking non English speaking employee named Tommy Fitzsimmons. Maybe some bullshit is happening.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (enNUy)

61 In brighter news, a large cultural enrichment boat coming from Africa capsized (probably Hank Johnson's fault somehow) and the Muslims on board became halal shark food. Allhu Ack (Jaws theme plays).

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (Aqf1y)

62 Trump is merely shaping the battle space by dividing the Blue Wave. He wants to know who he can work and who he can’t. Throw platitudes to the friendlies and bombs to the others. He can get deal with the Russians and squeeze the shit out the EUies. Iran needs to be starved some more.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 09, 2026 12:26 PM (Wp1X1)

63 Afternoon, Ace. Fall in New England is feeling pretty good today. I'm surrounded by Bostonians, but at least the weather is nice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:27 PM (bFu5X)

64 Turn out the lights, the party's over....

Posted by: Sad Country Song at November 09, 2026 12:27 PM (ett92)

65 Is this some kind of Sun Tzu strategery?"

Shih Tzu...
Posted by: man
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Woof!

Posted by: Sandy at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (XeU6L)

66 fight, fight fig...

Posted by: GOPe at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (nvKZ7)

67 >>>I just keep going back to Trump is 80 years old.

the Fox News presidency

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (gw3RI)

68 Did anyone try and tell Trump not to do that interview, that it might be a bad idea to go on national TV and think out loud like that immediately after the mid terms?

Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (kX27y)

69 the Fox News presidency
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM


Could be worse, I guess. We might have an NPR presidency.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (bFu5X)

70 How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.


well their policy was to go after the criminals, but they also said that if they encountered illegals in the course of a raid to get a criminal, they would arrest that illegal as well. The point was to pressure sanctuary jurisdictions to just turn over illegals at the jailhouses but they refused.
Posted by: ace at November 09, 2026 12:18 PM (1wjle)
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Yea, but that was the second part of my comment: they said that, but did they in fact ever follow through and deport an illegal who wasn't a serious criminal. If they did, I wasn't aware of it.

Every single illegal that the media hyped up was a hardened criminal and parasite on the nation. I don't recall a single housekeeper or nanny.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (iFTx/)

71 I need some research help here. I saw a Leftist claim that ICE has arrested 529 American citizens so far. Which I can see if ICE was arresting people interfering with raids, but I thought those arrested were immediately handed over to local police. The insinuation, of course, is that ICE is rounding up anyone who looks brown and deporting them... somewhere.

Has anyone seen this debunked by the Right?

Posted by: pookysgirl would rather not descend into the Lefty Swamp at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Wt5PA)

72 That is nothing new. All his haters have been claiming for years he's dying to sell us out to the likes of Pelosi and Schumer and they have been wrong every day up to now.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:24 PM (RZ+Ww)
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I am not a hater, but he wanted to make a deal on "DREAMers" with them at the beginning of his first term.

He told them they can pursue the "Russia" stuff, or they could have some nice deals.

I'm still Team Trump, though. I just realized that he's always had more centrist intentions.

After his dinner with him, Maher now will stand up to the idea of Trump being close-minded, and stresses that Trump likes listening to ideas from other sides.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Fi81e)

73 I thought this might happen. The art of the deal works both ways.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (OkYzo)

74 Has anyone seen this debunked by the Right?

Posted by: pookysgirl would rather not descend into the Lefty Swamp at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (Wt5PA)
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I would need to see substance on the claim first.

Never seen them produce it.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:31 PM (Fi81e)

75 Reagan did an amnesty, so that means it's cool, right?

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 12:31 PM (ZxPkt)

76 68 Did anyone try and tell Trump not to do that interview, that it might be a bad idea to go on national TV and think out loud like that immediately after the mid terms?

Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (kX27y)

This is political positioning to soften his (and the GOP's) image. Independent of whether there's any actual intention to follow through. It's not accidental or random.

Everyone talking to the media after the mid-terms is positioning themselves.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:31 PM (okun6)

77 Amnesty is the end of America. I mean, for real. The end. No hope of recovering what we once were. But with the massive swelling of Hispanic voters, and the tragedy that resulted in that on 11/3, we're pretty much there regardless. I've always known this is where it would all end up. The millions upon millions here illegally would never be removed. Only the tiniest fraction. We've been on borrowed time for a long time. If Trump pulls some kind of amnesty, we lose forever. If illegals stay here, swell in numbers, and vote in our elections anyway, we lose forever.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 12:32 PM (qBdHI)

78 It is a beautiful day, but it's 62 degrees here in NoVa. Needs to be colder.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (77rzZ)

not until they turn the heat on in the office here in the tidewater....

nothing like trying to work at a desk in a 65 degree office....

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (nXhwP)

79 I don't think Trump is being too tough on criminals. He needs to emphasize that if states won't cooperate with ICE, then he needs to do raids to find dangerous illegal alien criminals.

Most people don't want any illegal aliens in the country. They are somewhat sympathetic to sob stories about ICE being too tough, but they would agree with Trump if his approach was explained well.

Posted by: Dave at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (sbsMc)

80 Reagan did an amnesty, so that means it's cool, right?
Posted by: Don Black


Worked like a charm! No unforeseen circumstances at all!

Posted by: mikeski at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (VHUov)

81 “ God is with us; he is our leader. His priests with their trumpets will sound the battle cry against you. People of Israel, do not fight against the Lord, the God of your ancestors, for you will not succeed.”

2 Chronicles 13:12

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (3arSl)

82 I thought this might happen. The art of the deal works both ways.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 09, 2026 12:29 PM (OkYzo)
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It is very likely that had the Dems not pursued the bogus Russia Collusion stuff, that we would have had a very much more liberal Trump. He very likely would have done more stuff we didn't ask for or want.

But that they refused to compromise on what President Trump knew was bullshit--although he did ask Comey to tell him what he found on the subject. And this made Trump serve the "far right".

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (Fi81e)

83 Afternoon Ace.
Trump can be Trump after 1/1 without worrying about reelection. That might be good or bad depending on your view. He'll get some type of "amnesty" though not as much as the Dems want because the GOPe and their donors need cheap foreign labor. If he does it right it could piss off the DSA types and get them fighting even more against the old time Dems. Of course it will really piss off his base

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 12:33 PM (FroOw)

84 I saw a Leftist claim that ICE has arrested 529 American citizens so far."

There's a blurb going around about 500 plus being "detained" - but not actually held. Those who are stupid enough get turned over to local authorities.

The specific claim is an assertion without evidence. Nothing more.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (pfXMo)

85 They will not give him anything therefore there will be no deal. How they approach this comment should be informative to him.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (RZ+Ww)

86 Don't see any purpose to this - assuming it's tactical and not sincere. And it's dumb and damaging. Deportation and enforcement overall have been perfectly fine, not "too tough" (what's that supposed to mean? it's nonsense feel-speak for dummies of the sort that now make up half or more of the country). And it stupidly validates the mass slander and distortion that ICE enforcement is anything other than normal for any state or fed LE agency.

Recall Trump has slipped a few times and openly talked about not addressing the 95% of the problem - non-criminal illegals. As at the Iowa rally day that BBB passed (ironically), where he alluded to agriculture and hospitality depending on illegals - to the silence of the crowd (silence at a Trump rally I believe is rare to unprecedented).

I assumed he fears the short-term economic impact of enforcement on non-criminals. Which is dumb, or at least confirms even he doesn't understand the unforgiving black/white binary nature of the choice: you either actually enforce the law, or just sweep up around the edges as a prelude to an even greater disaster.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (U/Byj)

87 I'm not seeing anything from the LIVs that voted left that they cared about immigration.

The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.

I did suggest in the home stretch Trump should have proposed ending gas taxes.

The Dems would have gotten enough GOPers to stop him but turn the discussion in that direction...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)

88 Plenty of Dems are saying no deals with Trump; no way, no how. It will be full speed ahead on investigations, etc.

So here's hoping no deals will be possible on immigration or anything else.

Which is the way it should be, since any deals acceptable to those scumbags will be bad deals.

Posted by: No Name Today at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (8mulE)

89 The dems are going to push for amnesty for every fucking illegal that is here, even if they came last year.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (8Uo7a)

90 The millions upon millions here illegally would never be removed. "

Of course not. How else will I fill my new apartments?

/family of your local whor... er, politicians

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (pfXMo)

91 Reagan did an amnesty, so that means it's cool, right?
Posted by: Don Black
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Right. Why not repeat what Reagan ended up considering his biggest mistake in office?! (Not to you, but to the people I've seen ask it).

They also point up that Obamacare was closer to what the Republicans were proposing as an alternative--without thinking of how popular that was among the base. And from my reckoning, not very.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (Fi81e)

92 I need some research help here. I saw a Leftist claim that ICE has arrested 529 American citizens so far.

The left tells me Trump has deported thousands of Americans.

When I've pressed for a name I get "do your own research"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (sKqQm)

93 Maybe they will be *stealth raids vs the Pretti Good kind, which I enjoyed in a perverse fashion.

*Woosh! Wake up and half the family has vamoosed. Loaded into cargo planes and dropped somewhere to learn a new language. Like in London to learn Farsi with an hispanic accent.

I saw a photo today of the UK defense lead person, a guy wearing a skirt. I have no idea if it is AI as I have stuff to do and meeing my favorite SIL to walk the foothills on a lovely fall day.

DEPORT THEM ALL if not legal or over-stayed visas. I don't give two hoots what voters whine about now or in two years. I WANT THEM GONE!

I seem to be shouting a lot but am perfectly calm.

Take their Somolian pirates and flotilla back to their retard country. I hope most of the boats leak and sharks are following.

We know they can't swim anyway and the only thing that would float would be their deformed coconut noggins, filled with methane, due to their fart plumbing going up instead of out.

Floating head is no good when your nose and mouth are below the water line for breathing.
Maybe the one swimmer could walk across the Atlantic using them as stepping stones and mate with a sibling they didn't know they had.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (hzuYO)

94 >>This is political positioning to soften his (and the GOP's) image. Independent of whether there's any actual intention to follow through. It's not accidental or random.

I agree. You don't install Stephen Miller as your Chief of Staff and then go wobbly on illegals.

The left is like a bunch of rabid dogs right now that have been let off the leash. They are overreaching everywhere. So Trump counters by appearing reasonable. They aren't going to make a deal with him. They've been fighting for year for complete open borders and getting rid of ICE altogether.

As RI Red said, take a breath and let's see what happens before going to 11.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (viF8m)

95 No, no, no. You don't back off those people for a minute.

I'll give you the rope to hang me, Trump says.

He may have well said that.

Now Linda McMahon is a target, of course. Right down the line, pick off another woman until we really go for the men.

The politburo will be in action day 1 across the country. The real Order 227; not one thing to roll back by 2028.

I think the world of Trump but this is not how he should be framing the last two years of his 2nd administration with real barbarians at the gates.







Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (NFX2v)

96 We’ve been exposed to poll after poll about something that seems vexatious. Latinos allegedly were in favor of Trump’s immigration policy, and moved in record numbers into his voting column during the last election.

Now they don’t like it and moved back into the Democrats column, enough that Trump now sounds like George W Bush.
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Crime is massively down. Which is a good thing especially in low income/working class neighborhoods.

But some people who may be legal, have relatives, or friends who aren't legal. So they are on edge about them getting picked up. Even if you are legal, but you are originally from Mexico or something, you might not be sleeping well given the chance that you might get sweep up in it . . .

Its fear. The fear merchants pump it out daily, and Latino anxiety levels rival the Irish.

Posted by: Karen's Inner Monologue at November 09, 2026 12:36 PM (anL5R)

97 Plenty of Dems are saying no deals with Trump; no way, no how. It will be full speed ahead on investigations, etc.

Posted by: No Name Today at November 09, 2026 12:35 PM (8mulE)
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And they'll pass the savings on to us!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (Fi81e)

98 BTW, I do note the original piece is from Tepid Fume's website.

Take with mucho Himalayan Pink Salt....

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (pfXMo)

99 The truth: each of them must go.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (RIvkX)

100 As if morale couldn't get any lower...

Nice job, Trump.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (Z0yym)

101 Off delusional sock

Posted by: sock at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (anL5R)

102 87 I'm not seeing anything from the LIVs that voted left that they cared about immigration.

The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.

I did suggest in the home stretch Trump should have proposed ending gas taxes.

The Dems would have gotten enough GOPers to stop him but turn the discussion in that direction...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (sKqQm)

This is specifically aimed at the massive wave of Hispanic voters that powered the Ds in mid-terms.

Is it the right read? Hard to say but it's a plausible one and doesn't cost anything as long as there's no action.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (okun6)

103 We need the illegals to live in all the high density housing that the youngsters don't want/can't afford.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (enNUy)

104 I'm not seeing anything from the LIVs that voted left that they cared about immigration.

The only thing I am seeing is gas/food prices.


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I saw a retweet of this ;
"Ron Nehring
@RonNehring
·
13h
I just bought a $1999 refrigerator.

It would have been about $1649 if not for the federal tariffs tax which I (not “South Korea” paid.

I also paid $155 in sales tax.

Total cost $2154. Of which 25% is tariff tax and sales tax.

To pay for it, I had to earn $3,420 in gross salary, of which $1266 went to fed and state taxes.

So for $3,420 in labor I got a refrigerator worth $1,649 (48%).

52% went to the government in taxes."

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (AKptf)

105 I thought this might happen. The art of the deal works both ways.
Posted by: Frank Barone
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The problem is, compromise is not an inherently positive thing. A compromise of Good with Bad is not a desirable thing. Blatant examples;

See: ValJar proclaiming that 'Rapprochement' was the proper approach to deal with the Iranians.

Or, Neville Chamberlain in his 30 September 1938 remarks in London concerning the Munich Agreement and the subsequent Anglo-German Declaration. 'Peace in our time'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L)

106 I take it that the promotion of Stephen Miller should give us the biggest clue about the reality of Trump "backing off".

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:38 PM (Fi81e)

107 In brighter news, a large cultural enrichment boat coming from Africa capsized (probably Hank Johnson's fault somehow) and the Muslims on board became halal shark food. Allhu Ack (Jaws theme plays).
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And the sharks will travel that route for 200 years looking for more.
/s/ lying professor while the stupids nod along to his bullshit

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:38 PM (Cw3N8)

108 This is disatrous for 2028...

Dems won't come home to Rs b/c Trump gets a little less tough, but Trump's base will absolutely abandon Rs forever if he grants amnesty.

This is stupid to the highest degree. This was also said before the adult in the room, Miller, became Chief of Staff.

And can we thank Miller's wife for lobbying him into the spot with the help of Elon and friends b/c whoever pitched this to Trump should be fired.

Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (Gb7+b)

109 If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.

He can hold the line and leave office beloved by his voters.

Or do this, and leave office universally hated, like Bush. It's his call.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (BI5O2)

110 >>The problem is, compromise is not an inherently positive thing. A compromise of Good with Bad is not a desirable thing.

The thing about compromise is it takes two to compromise. Do you see anyone on the left talking about compromise?

This is the party that went to war over the Maryland Dad and abolishing ICE. Not some ICE, all ICE. And they are more emboldened now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (viF8m)

111 We need the illegals to live in all the high density housing that the youngsters don't want/can't afford."

And there aren't that many youngsters around...

"52% went to the government in taxes."

No s*** sherlock. You just now figuring that out?
Dumbass...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (pfXMo)

112 RIGHT! Legal latino citizens have gotten a huge break having asshole gang members being cleaned out of their neighborhoods. They’ve been pretty happy being able to go to Target or Winco and not have to hang on to their children and have their heads on a swivel so these thugs don’t snatch their kids walking through a parking lot. Some GOPe slapdick must have told Trump this. GAS PRICES, GROCERY BILLS and fraud.

Posted by: JROD at November 09, 2026 12:40 PM (AuKIw)

113 Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform

I think that's probably clickbait by the media to get his supporters to polarize against him. If he did say it, I think Trump says a lot of stuff . We'll see what he does.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 12:40 PM (JrHfD)

114
108 This is disatrous for 2028...

Dems won't come home to Rs b/c Trump gets a little less tough, but Trump's base will absolutely abandon Rs forever if he grants amnesty.

This is stupid to the highest degree. This was also said before the adult in the room, Miller, became Chief of Staff.

And can we thank Miller's wife for lobbying him into the spot with the help of Elon and friends b/c whoever pitched this to Trump should be fired.

Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:39 PM (Gb7+b)

This isn't the first time Trump has offered amnesty deals(such as the DACA offer in 201, so let's say it doesn't happen again.

How does that change your analysis?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)

115 How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.

I don't think we ever were targeting anything other than the real criminals. Sure, we talked about going after everyone here illegally, but I don't recall a single instance of actually deporting someone like Maria Sanchez the quiet housekeeper.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
****
No, it was happening a lot.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (wzaBj)

116 And the sharks will travel that route for 200 years looking for more.
/s/ lying professor while the stupids nod along to his bullshit
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:38 PM (Cw3N

******
Sharks are probably enraged as they prefer other meat than this nasty chum.

When even the sharks are enraged it's not a good week.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:42 PM (hzuYO)

117 too harsh on immigration enforcement, you gotta be f’ing kidding me. (facepalm)

Posted by: JROD at November 09, 2026 12:42 PM (AuKIw)

118 The problem is, compromise is not an inherently positive thing. A compromise of Good with Bad is not a desirable thing. Blatant examples;

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L)
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Just as I was discussing with Grok: tolerance is not a good general policy.

Because yes, you can tolerate "intolerant" behavior, you can't tolerate it if you like the behavior, you can only tolerate it if you don't like the behavior.

Well, how much don't you like the behavior.

Popper's "Paradox of tolerance" is simply a failure to understand how the sense changes when the act of "tolerating" is turned into a policy of "tolerance". (And it's also a single foot note from his body of writing.)

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (Fi81e)

119 He is letting them be the ones to be recalcitrant and say no deal.

They will not give anything. They are unwilling. Maybe he's going senile and doesn't know that but I doubt it.

There is a fine line to walk here. Trump won't abandon us but he can't play into the narratives that just swept the GOP out of office. Talk is talk.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (RZ+Ww)

120 Nope; I'm not in the mood to read "Trump betrayed us" wailing. See you folks later.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (JrHfD)

121 Oh, great - let in more folks from south of the border to pump up the numbers in Texas for the Dems. 'Cuz you know they are all going to vote.

Hello, Horde.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (SRRAx)

122 >>>25 How hard were the raids in the first place? Every time the media tried to pimp some boo-hoo story about some poor hardworking illegal who got snatched, it turned out to be some hardcore criminal scumbag.
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Some of the deportations were rather pointless. Maybe there were enough of them to add up. It had to be word of mouth because the stupid one's, the truly stupid one's never made the news.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:43 PM (Pee1E)

123 Did anyone try and tell Trump not to do that interview, that it might be a bad idea to go on national TV and think out loud like that immediately after the mid terms?
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Dems: HA-HA! We smoked the Rs with ruthless message discipline relentlessly and overwhelmingly pushed by our army of 200k online influencers.

Trump: [figurative 3 bong hits deep] soo maaan, like what we should do an' stuff is like, I don't know, maybe we could let the illegals stay or something?

Look the Great Communicator title is already taken.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:44 PM (Cw3N8)

124 An offer is only that. Many an offer is made knowing it will be rejected or that you can change it if the offer is unexpectedly accepted.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:44 PM (RZ+Ww)

125 The Dems never compromise.
Posted by: davidt
......

MEDICARE FOR THE WORLD

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (UjdFS)

126 whoever Trump "sacks" next will give us a clue where he is going

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (AKptf)

127 But on the other hand: this is a disaster.
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Yeah, this is what a lame duck looks like. And why I've been beating the drum that while it's nice that he did more than any predecessor, it wasn't enough and we needed to push harder.

The only hope for salvaging the country was the total elimination of the foreign populations that support the Democrats. Now it will just be theft either by government or with its approval until people finally figure out that productive behavior is a waste of time.

And then it all collapses. Along with any part of the global economy that depends on US demand.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (vSvIl)

128 113 Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform

I think that's probably clickbait by the media to get his supporters to polarize against him. If he did say it, I think Trump says a lot of stuff . We'll see what he does.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 12:40 PM (JrHfD)

Not clickbait - 60 minutes interview Trump chose to do before Miller became chief of staff...

This was his reversal from focusing on his damn DC arch and ballroom...aka, he went from bad to worse.

Here's hoping Miller right's the ship...and tells Trump to shut up this week...entirely...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (Gb7+b)

129 No, it was happening a lot.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (wzaBj)

*******
Eh. No pity. They had 20yrs to become legal.

We moved across the country and got our driver's licences at the DMV within 6wks.

It ain't hard. Granted, for them, you have to learn English to speak and read and pass a test. Unless your are super stupid and can't read anyway, being a cretin, go back to Cretinville and be a loser.

I am hardcore on this issue and won't back down. Too lazy to find the Tom Petty song to blast at high decibels.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:45 PM (hzuYO)

130 This isn't the first time Trump has offered amnesty deals(such as the DACA offer in 201, so let's say it doesn't happen again.

How does that change your analysis?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)

Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)

131
The thing about compromise is it takes two to compromise. Do you see anyone on the left talking about compromise?
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They're fixated on gaining power/control. They care not a whit about the well-being of the country...but you know that. Things like Character and Morality mean absolutely nothing to them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (XeU6L)

132 The roof is on fire!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)

133 Let's demoralize an already demoralized base in the most backstabbing way possible...

The official data claims that the base didn't show up in the midterms. DataRepublican says the data has indicated that since September. If that's true, they've disqualified themselves from anyone caring about them.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (2ocoG)

134 If illegals living here for 20 years get rightfully sent home, and it's a bridge too far for your Hispanic friends, then they can follow them back to the mother country and get back to the roots they love so very much right along with them.

The door is right there. They're not locked in.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (BI5O2)

135 OTOH, some folks are pointing to the midterm failure flowing from a lack of transparency from Trump.

I don't buy it fully because Trump is always taking questions.

But maybe it's more, he stopped building the case for his decisions.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (Cw3N8)

136 Trump failed to sane-set us on Iran. He looks totally off on how long it was going to take to resolve.

Instead he sold us on how quick the action would be, and that elicited hopes in me that if he handled it within the War Powers limit, it would just be rhetoric to suggest that he had "overstepped".

Regarding Iran, Trump sold us, just like the Dems try to sell us on "solutions".

I knew there would be a cost to losing the No New Wars brand.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (Fi81e)

137 "Is it the right read? Hard to say but it's a plausible one and doesn't cost anything as long as there's no action."

I don't expect "back off" in terms of action.

But I also see zero point to trying to mollify Hispanics this way - which it won't if they're so gone they have a 9-yr old's approach to something.

Employment enforcement is almost the whole ball-game. And it's been virtually set aside up to this point. And it's going to be much more vulnerable to the slander and distortion that easily shapes the reactions of ignorant/teenage girl-like/tribal America - i.e. at least half the country.

Apart from cuffing serious criminals the entire effort to date relies on intimidation to motivate self-deportation. Slightest sign of weakness guts that central effort and buys you bupkis, now or later.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 12:47 PM (U/Byj)

138 MEDICARE FOR THE WORLD
Posted by: wth
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Universal Basic Income!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (XeU6L)

139 If you overstay your visa for one day in Japan and get caught, you get kicked out and might not necessarily end up in your home nation. That is tough. What we did is nothing.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (RjOoY)

140 There's a blurb going around about 500 plus being "detained" - but not actually held. Those who are stupid enough get turned over to local authorities.

The specific claim is an assertion without evidence. Nothing more.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:34 PM (pfXMo)

Dankeschoen. Also, the mental image of a protestor screaming the sovereign citizen line "aM i BeInG dEtAiNeD?!" amuses me.

Posted by: pookysgirl has seen a few bodycam videos at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (Wt5PA)

141 130 This isn't the first time Trump has offered amnesty deals(such as the DACA offer in 201, so let's say it doesn't happen again.

How does that change your analysis?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:41 PM (okun6)

Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)

Ok, then Trump has done this repeatedly already, on gun control, global warming, and illegal immigration previously in 2018. So it seems like it's a type of "betrayal" that nobody remembers and has no policy impact.

On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.

Taking a very doctrinaire public stance on positions after being wiped in the midterms is a bad idea. The Ds were smart enough to talk about 'affordability' rather than their actual agenda.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (okun6)

142 I have a friend who married a Cuban, really Puerto Rican, but Cuban sounds way better. His family has been in Miami for 50 years and still they don't speak English. Because they don't need to.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (enNUy)

143 Most of the deportees will be back anyway. With dems controlling the border states I'm sure the globalist NGOs are gearing up to restart the caravans of overweight iphone wielding "refugees"

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (gw3RI)

144 If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.

He can hold the line and leave office beloved by his voters.

Or do this, and leave office universally hated, like Bush. It's his call.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
......

Exactly.
He has two years left. I would prefer to see him go nuclear and drive the left off the high dive.

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (UjdFS)

145 119 He is letting them be the ones to be recalcitrant and say no deal.

They will not give anything. They are unwilling.
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Day to day facts are facts. Whether they cheated or not makes no difference to the political day to day getting things done.
The men on the chessboard are moved and that is where we are and where he is. He has to deal with it and so do we.
_Shit Stinks

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (Pee1E)

146 I would light my hair on fire but I already burned it off after the election.

Posted by: ballistic at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (oqH4h)

147 they started sending people back that were hardworking

"Hardworking" is a political term, and has no other meaning.
Anybody who votes for your guy is "hardworking."
Everybody who gets a tax break or subsidy is "hardworking."
And all families are "hardworking." Ask any candidate.

You just had some principles that became inconvenient to maintaining your friendships. It's understandable, but $20 same as in town. Now there's something you're not willing to fight for.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 09, 2026 12:49 PM (zdLoL)

148 the Fox News presidency
Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM

Could be worse, I guess. We might have an NPR presidency.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:28 PM (bFu5X)

We might wind up going straight to the Al Jazeera presidency.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (vSvIl)

149 144 If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.
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When one sees nothing but gloom the world is gloomy, hopeless
with no offer of hope. It's a sad place.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Pee1E)

150 Trump failed to sane-set us on Iran. He looks totally off on how long it was going to take to resolve.

Instead he sold us on how quick the action would be, and that elicited hopes in me that if he handled it within the War Powers limit, it would just be rhetoric to suggest that he had "overstepped".


100%. Too few people understand the Venezuela/Iran strategy was putting up an electric fence around China, in addition to freeing Persian hotties.

The annoying thing is that by any objective standard Iran really is utterly defeated. Hormuz is open for business, oil's in freefall, and the IRGC can barely light a birthday candle now. But they're continuing to do the "tis only a flesh wound" thing and the media is happy to cover for them.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (2ocoG)

151 Ok, then Trump has done this repeatedly already, on gun control, global warming, and illegal immigration previously in 2018. So it seems like it's a type of "betrayal" that nobody remembers and has no policy impact.

On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.

Taking a very doctrinaire public stance on positions after being wiped in the midterms is a bad idea. The Ds were smart enough to talk about 'affordability' rather than their actual agenda.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:48 PM (okun6)

You take NO STANCE that will backstab your voters and instead say you heard them and you're gonna work hard for them. You do NOT go on 60 Minutes and pontificate on all the ways you're gonna backstab the very base who showed up for you...

As I said, Trump should go silent this week after this, and let Homan and Miller clean this up...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Gb7+b)

152 Even talking amnesty is a backstab to the folks who didn't show up who we need to show up in 2028...it's betrayal...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (Gb7+b)
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They sound like people who are lauding a man for what he never was. They must not have paid attention to Trump in 2017 when he said he wanted to make a deal on the DREAM-ers and immigration.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Fi81e)

153 Are there still refridgerators being made in Iowa? No tariffs on domestic production.

Internet says 16 brands made in America.

Posted by: clarence at November 09, 2026 12:53 PM (W2eM/)

154 No, it was happening a lot.
I have many Hispanic friends that liked Trump, but when they started sending people back that were hardworking and had been here 20:yrs and breaking up families was a bridge too far for them.
Posted by: redridinghood

Some of the deportations were rather pointless. Maybe there were enough of them to add up. It had to be word of mouth because the stupid one's, the truly stupid one's never made the news.
Posted by: Braenyard


So the Vast Right-Wing Media was hiding these stories of honest hardworking illegals who just forgot to fill out some paperwork at the DMV, and only running stories about Maryland Man and the like?

(half-sarcasm, half-serious.)

Posted by: mikeski at November 09, 2026 12:53 PM (VHUov)

155 Ok, then Trump has done this repeatedly already, on gun control, global warming, and illegal immigration previously in 2018. So it seems like it's a type of "betrayal" that nobody remembers and has no policy impact.

On the flipside it makes it harder to sell the idea that Trump (or the GOP) holds radical positions.


Right. We've been saying this since 2017, and it's always been true, but watch what Trump does, not what he says.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:53 PM (2ocoG)

156 "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

Posted by: PG at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (qln0f)

157 Trump will not do an amnesty. Forget it. Anyone telling you otherwise is dead wrong.

Democrats are unwilling to give Trump ANYTHING and he already knows it. Been there done that.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (RZ+Ww)

158 If Trump wants to betray his loyal base at the last minute, that's his legacy his fucking with, and not much more.

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All I can say is my #1 priority for a very long time has been the removal and stopping of the crush of illegals pouring into this country. Nearly everything related to our country's survival flowed from that.

Of course, who knows what he will or won't do. Trump says a lot of things. But that is a pretty bold statement given his hard stance ever since he came down the elevator. It would be a huge betrayal. It would quite possibly be the only way to truly chink his armor in my opinion, regarding his legacy. Or at least, what I will think of it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (qBdHI)

159 I could apologize for misspelling licenses above but I won't.

I woke up normal today for the first time in two months of insomnia. Because of new cotton flannel sheets and a solid week of normal sleep. That's all it took was sleep. Thanks be to God, my husband, and LLBean (I should be paid for this endorsement).

I thank my dude because as a college guy he worked one summer, with full hippie handsomeness with his beard and looking like Robert Redford in the movie Jeremiah Johnson, in "Linens and Domestics." For a huge dept store in Long Island.

The thought of him working there still sends me laughing. He does know how to fold a fitted sheet; just one more thing to attract me. He found these perfect sheets for his going insane wife a week ago and sleep has eased the grief I have for my ill mother.

Pumped on one cup of coffee and now get out of my way.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (hzuYO)

160 Got into another X argument this morning with a person who says that Trump needs to go after the murderers and rapists and leave the poor Abuelas alone.

:headdesk:

The "sanctuary" zones are going balls to the wall to protect the murderers and rapists. Walz pardoned a convicted child rapist to try to avoid deportation. Blue states routinely ignore detainers and release these creeps who re-offend.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at November 09, 2026 12:54 PM (vqA1l)

161 106 I take it that the promotion of Stephen Miller should give us the biggest clue about the reality of Trump "backing off".
Posted by: Axeman

I take it as Miller, who I admire as a brave and brilliant person, gets to be the lead Bad Cop...followed by cabinet positions such as Treasury, VA, Education, CDC.

Think Biden.

And here's always been a shadow government - inside or outside the actual federal government. O built in greater flexibility.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (NFX2v)

162 The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched.

*looks up, pats toupee excitedly*

Posted by: Frank Luntz at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (UjdFS)

163 Exactly.
He has two years left. I would prefer to see him go nuclear and drive the left off the high dive.

Posted by: wth
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There are important things he can do with those nukes.
Is he bringing our armada home? Has he pulled Rubio off Cuba?
There are important things he can effect that the Democrats will be hard pressed to undo.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (Pee1E)

164 Got into another X argument this morning with a person who says that Trump needs to go after the murderers and rapists and leave the poor Abuelas alone.

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OK, that's about 50k deportations a month.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 12:55 PM (AKptf)

165 Seems to me this road is how you get headless corpses dangling from the overpass and death squads operating with impunity, and public support.

Posted by: Filthy, Son of Grimy at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (7Q0e+)

166
As I said, Trump should go silent this week after this, and let Homan and Miller clean this up...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (Gb7+b)

This is not the time to be talking tough on immigration after Hispanics handed Texas to the Ds. Campaign on something else and keep policy the same.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (okun6)

167 The annoying thing is that by any objective standard Iran really is utterly defeated. Hormuz is open for business, oil's in freefall, and the IRGC can barely light a birthday candle now. But they're continuing to do the "tis only a flesh wound" thing and the media is happy to cover for them.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:51 PM (2ocoG)
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I agree. Had Michigan not put in the 55¢/gallon tax to disguise a decline in gas prices, we'd be looking at mid-3s/gallon gas.

This is what is so stupid about the "Affordability" banner. The Party that waved it, in Michigan, cares so much about what you're paying at the pump, and how much it is hurting you that they want you to pay 55¢ more per gallon, just so you can't see prices come down! (And Michigan is not the only state, as I hear it.)

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Fi81e)

168 Remember:

Compromise in DC is
- Dems demand the whole loaf
- Rs offer 50%
- they compromise on giving the Dems 95% of the loaf.

Dems campaign on how they were cheated out of that 5%.
Rs campaign on how they saved you 5%.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Cw3N8)

169 >>>So the Vast Right-Wing Media was hiding these stories of honest hardworking illegals who just forgot to fill out some paperwork at the DMV, and only running stories about Maryland Man and the like?

(half-sarcasm, half-serious.)

Posted by: mikeski
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You tell me, I don't watch TV.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Pee1E)

170 250 years was a good run.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (JQfkC)

171 The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)


We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!

Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (kuZER)

172 The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched.

We don't need no water let the mf'er burn...

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (SN8r1)

173 Are there still refridgerators being made in Iowa? No tariffs on domestic production.

Internet says 16 brands made in America.
Posted by: clarence
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Yeah..., no sympathy for the '$3600' fridge purchase.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (XeU6L)

174 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (y9fZx)

175 Got into another X argument this morning with a person who says that Trump needs to go after the murderers and rapists and leave the poor Abuelas alone.
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That's part of Homan's deal that "Sanctuary Cities/States" did not take.

They keep citing part of a deal they REFUSED.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (Fi81e)

176 167 The annoying thing is that by any objective standard Iran really is utterly defeated. Hormuz is open for business, oil's in freefall, and the IRGC can barely light a birthday candle now. But they're continuing to do the "tis only a flesh wound" thing and the media is happy to cover for them.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Iran has nuclear cake. That's got to go.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (Pee1E)

177 The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 12:46 PM (yVYSZ)

We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM (kuZER)

172 The roof is on fire!
Posted by: nurse ratched.

We don't need no water let the mf'er burn...
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Scary

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)

178 Seems to me this road is how you get headless corpses dangling from the overpass and death squads operating with impunity, and public support.

The media's all but ignoring it, but Bukele has apparently fixed Haiti temporarily. He got back his hostages, killed a few gang leaders, and the other gang leaders are now in hiding. Regular Haitians love it. You really can just do things.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (2ocoG)

179 You have nothing to fear except fear!

Or something like that......

Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (En+fz)

180 So if I can run a criminal operation without getting caught or fined or arrested for, say, 10 or 15 years, then I should be given legal right to continue running that criminal enterprise? Is that how this works?

Posted by: NeighSayer at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (bufu1)

181 Saying something is stupid and pointless is not saying it's important. That's the case here. Probably zero impact, apart from a few Hispanics who can't handle the reality of rule of law - despite voting for it when it mattered - having their delusions and tribalism validated by the bad orange man saying yeah we've been too "tough".

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (U/Byj)

182 I knew there would be a cost to losing the No New Wars brand.
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"No New Wars" was always a hopelessly unserious thing to say. That is not the nature of the world we live in.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (vSvIl)

183 All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Posted by: The Uniparty at November 09, 2026 12:59 PM (0sNs1)

184 Yeah..., no sympathy for the '$3600' fridge purchase.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
----

Nice looking stainless, freezer on the bottom at Homely Depot for $699.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 01:00 PM (Pee1E)

185 You tell me, I don't watch TV.
Posted by: Braenyard


I don't either. I wait for Ace & the CoBs to report on the reporting.

Posted by: mikeski at November 09, 2026 01:00 PM (VHUov)

186 i think trump will want to keep going after illegals who have broken other laws after getting here. eventually the possible negatives effects of going after illegals who have behaved themselves and actually somehow contribute to society will outweigh the benefits of deporting them but we probably won't see that happen for a good couple of years

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 09, 2026 01:00 PM (CWTWj)

187 CBS news, Transcript: Sen. Elizabeth Warren on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," Nov. 8, 2026

Elizabeth Warren Dares Trump to Use His Veto Power as Democrats Prepare to Take Over Congress: 'Let's Test That Out'
Mon, November 9, 2026, Yahoo News

Now this c-ut surfaces loudly.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (NFX2v)

188 I'm really thinking now that the IC suckered Trump into the idea that Iran was an imminent threat, just like they suckered Bush Jr. into the idea that Hussein was buying refinable yellow cake.

I can't quite figure out why the military would be conservative in general, but the IC is so radical. The best I can come up with is that the IC recruits "intellectuals" and they don't like the shackle of traditional sentiment as a limit.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (Fi81e)

189 As TJM (where have you gone!?!) always said, they didn't go after employers because they used the failed government system to check status. If it didn't respond with info or didn't say the worker was not eligible, they can simply say "we followed the rules" and nothing would be done.

Yet another government failure taken advantage of by big business.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (y9fZx)

190 Scary
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)


Honestly, I was surprised nobody had already said it by the time I arrived

Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (kuZER)

191 Well...I am not going to do anything today. I started this yesterday and didn't finish and I am no quitter!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (2WIwB)

192 Scary
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 12:58 PM (XeU6L)

Honestly, I was surprised nobody had already said it by the time I arrived
Posted by: Doof

Same.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (SN8r1)

193 On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.

I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.

The problem is too big to ever be solved.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (JQfkC)

194 I can't quite figure out why the military would be conservative in general, but the IC is so radical. The best I can come up with is that the IC recruits "intellectuals" and they don't like the shackle of traditional sentiment as a limit.


they recruit from Georgetown and the Ivies and other colleges like NESCAC. the IC does.

I knew two UPenn CIA recruits.

that is why the IC is very liberal.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (qBivk)

195 "No New Wars" was always a hopelessly unserious thing to say. That is not the nature of the world we live in.

It's absolutely a dumb thing to say, but also Iran barely qualifies as a war. There have never been "boots on the ground", and they haven't fought back in any organized way since the Navy cleared the Strait.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (2ocoG)

196 Rigorous immigration enforcement is not the reason we lost the Governorship of Alaska and are about to get two democrat senators from that state.

Basically, the democrats have taken full advantage of what is now election season, they register millions of ballots, they flood the systems with ballots and there's not much we can do about that other than reciprocate, but being that the GOP is a useless pile of dog shit, our ability to oust these f***ing ***holes and lunatics, is low.

We're in for a decade long slog just to get back to status quo, which was already a knife edge.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (XV/Pl)

197
I can believe this:


DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
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3h
John Thune disapproving of Tim Burchett as a US Senator is all you need to know that Tim Burchett needs to be a Senator.

toddstarnes
@toddstarnes
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4h
JUST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett as her replacement in the U.S. Senate. Thune does not want Burchett anywhere near the Senate chamber. And that's what makes Burchett the perfect choice!

Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)

198 We don't need no water, let the MF'er BURN!
Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM

We don't need no water let the mf'er burn...
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 12:57 PM


May I micturate on your leg, and inform you it's raining?

Posted by: John Thune (Rino-SD) at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (0sNs1)

199 On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.

I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.

The problem is too big to ever be solved.


Go to an emergency room. The difference there is night and day.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (2ocoG)

200 DC is a scorpion.

If you keep trying to make deals with it, it will sting you eventually.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (Fi81e)

201 There's no way the military is conservative.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (enNUy)

202 But we still have Paris

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (WScdz)

203 There's no way the military is conservative.

The troops almost universally are. The officer corpse has significant Ivy League exposure and is mixed.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (2ocoG)

204 201 There's no way the military is conservative.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (enNUy)

Most of the rank and file is. The officers are more mixed. There's also been massive recruitment drop offs during D presidencies.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (okun6)

205 the cheat that the Left implemented last week is a large scale version of what they did fraudulently to win in NJ. Mike Sherill's win there was all on fake ballots.

it worked, they scaled up, they can now sprinkle ballots wherever they need to.

ballot box is done with.

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (qBivk)

206 On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.

==

I've seen changes. Other than Spanish speakers are now working entry level jobs. Traffic is way down.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (AKptf)

207 As TJM (where have you gone!?!) always said, they didn't go after employers because they used the failed government system to check status. If it didn't respond with info or didn't say the worker was not eligible, they can simply say "we followed the rules" and nothing would be done.

Yet another government failure taken advantage of by big business.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (y9fZx)
______

Yup, the magic of eVerify. It was a scam and give-away to employers that made it almost impossible to go after employers.

But even apart from that, you can still go to home depots or similar big stores or parking lots at 6 am, and you'll see illegals waiting to be picked up for daily labor (construction, lawn, moving, and other basic labor tasks). They aren't even trying to hide it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (iFTx/)

208 The only reason I've put up with Trump's bullshit is his tough stance on the border.

All that being said, I think the optics of some of the things he did, was just counterproductive. Like rolling into blue cities with masked ICE agents and zip ties., purposely creating as much drama as possible. So much more ow hanging fruit.

But if Trump cuts some amnesty deal, he'll leave office with a 20% approval rating and probably be the most hated President in US history. His base is the only thing left.

Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (VRTat)

209 Trump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at. I don’t know the rest of the country, but in Texas Republicans got wiped out by heavy handed immigration enforcement. We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (dJgiD)

210 Prosecuting the last two years is valuable and there are definitely things I wish had been different.

But the key takeaway question for me is why is the GOP aside from some appointees and a governor or two, still the exact same collection of clowns, do-nothings, frauds, and obvious slime covered phonies. WHY???

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (RZ+Ww)

211 the military is more conservative than it was a bit ago, and more conservative than the general public

I feel ok about the military

we might need them soon

how many coups do I need to live thru?

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (qBivk)

212 The troops almost universally are. The officer corpse has significant Ivy League exposure and is mixed.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 01:05 PM (2ocoG)
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So, again it's the closest to policy, and the closest to a DC career.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (Fi81e)

213 I can't quite figure out why the military would be conservative in general, but the IC is so radical. The best I can come up with is that the IC recruits "intellectuals" and they don't like the shackle of traditional sentiment as a limit.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:01 PM (Fi81e)
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The CIA still recruits heavily from the Ivy League because they're all still living in the 1950s when the Ivies were actually full of worldly and intelligent young folks rather than the writhing pit of leftoid retards they are today.

Posted by: ballistic at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (oqH4h)

214 I always kinda thought a lot of the illegals would be allowed to stay if they were employed and not criminals. There was the rumor that the ones working in construction were not showing for work if they heard ICE was in town, but for the most part Trump has not gone after workplaces that are packed with illegals. He also hasn't gone after the employers of illegals.

Hopefully he won't say he has been too rough on the IRGC, or that maybe Iran can have just a few little nukes.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (vbXSk)

215 I can't imagine Miller would agree with amnesty... I believe this interview was done before he ousted Wiles ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (+gK6I)

216 how many coups do I need to live thru?

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (qBivk)

How many you got?

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (RZ+Ww)

217 JUST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett as her replacement in the U.S. Senate. Thune does not want Burchett anywhere near the Senate chamber. And that's what makes Burchett the perfect choice!
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)
*******
I like Burchett on a lot of policies. but there are times when he gets way too wacky.
I don't think we need wacky as they end up costing us a seat.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (wzaBj)

218 Thune got everything he wanted and we're pretty fucked. Send Burchett.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (SN8r1)

219 >>>Are there still refridgerators being made in Iowa? No tariffs on domestic production.

Amana is still there. Just laid off a bunch of people last year, at least in part bc people want to buy cheaper imported appliances.

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 01:07 PM (gw3RI)

220 But we still have Paris
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 09, 2026 01:04 PM (WScdz)

and Christmas Tamales.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (wVcYX)

221 Had the BBB just levied some serious taxes/fines on employers that had illegals on their payroll, this problem would have been solved overnight. And you wouldn't even need 60 votes in the Senate because "it's a tax!"

But deep down, no one wants to go there and really solve this.

Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (VRTat)

222 rump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at.

oh the fake ones? cool cool.

we MUST shut the border and pause immigration

and continue getting rid of the illegals here

that is a MUST DO

otherwise, country is really gone-gone

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (qBivk)

223 180 So if I can run a criminal operation without getting caught or fined or arrested for, say, 10 or 15 years, then I should be given legal right to continue running that criminal enterprise? Is that how this works?
Posted by: NeighSayer

City alterman, Ward leader, realtor!!, social justice activist, former felon paid speaker & author...

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (NFX2v)

224 217 JUST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett


He gets weird sometimes... I heard they were considering an ex wrestler who was a Mayor there ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (+gK6I)

225 Bear in mind that in Texas a GREAT deal of political advertising was done by the Dems in Spanish on all of the Spanish media outlets. Most of us never saw the wave coming, because we only speak English.

What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)

226 Well, it sounds like an opportunity to send lots of mail and emails to the President and tell him that his immigration policies weren't aggressive enough.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (vJrRc)

227 Don't you find it curious that all the state initiatives limiting voting to US citizens passed, even with the big blue wave?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (JNr/z)

228 We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM


The Dems and MSM won't allow the former. See the link about Van Jones and the Dem election operation in JJ's post this morning.

It was nice while it lasted.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (0sNs1)

229 On the ground I haven’t really seen any difference in the past 18 months. Every construction crew is still 100% Spanish speaking. Everyone working in virtually every restaurant is Spanish speaking.

I don’t live in a sanctuary city or state. If there’s one place where tough immigration enforcement should yield real results it’s here. And still nothing changed.

The problem is too big to ever be solved.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 01:02 PM (JQfkC)
________

I've seen a noticeable difference, even in a blue city. There are still lotsa obvious illegals doing obvious illegal work (couriers, bike delivery, construction, nannies, taxi/uber, etc) but overall there's been a noticeable drop off.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (iFTx/)

230 I was being sarcastic. But if Trump falls for anything within an RCH of amnesty, I'm done with him.

And take down all that silly gold shit.

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (ZxPkt)

231
What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)

Try California...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (+gK6I)

232 "heavy handed immigration enforcement."

Israeli genocide in Gaza
Climate emergency
White supremacy afflicting America

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (U/Byj)

233 Hispanics, urban blacks and white women are a big part of enlisted. They aren't conservative. They want all the freebies they can get.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (enNUy)

234 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (NcvvS)

235 Nood

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (SN8r1)

236 UST IN: Sources tell me that John Thune is actively campaigning to stop Marsha Blackburn from naming Rep. Tim Burchett as her replacement in the U.S. Senate. Thune does not want Burchett anywhere near the Senate chamber. And that's what makes Burchett the perfect choice!
Posted by: beckster at November 09, 2026 01:03 PM (kX27y)

Man, if Thune only worked this hard on Murkowiwskoswisi and Collins to make them vote for Trump's agenda...

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (AKptf)

237 227 Don't you find it curious that all the state initiatives limiting voting to US citizens passed, even with the big blue wave?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (JNr/z)

Most Republican policies are broadly popular. Simultaneously, most of these policies are not focused on by the media and Democrat misrepresent their positions.

California by referendum is far more right wing than California by party.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (okun6)

238 Trump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at. I don’t know the rest of the country, but in Texas Republicans got wiped out by heavy handed immigration enforcement. We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:06 PM (dJgiD)
********
Sad, but a true reality. I don't want to be here, but here we are.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 01:11 PM (wzaBj)

239 Trump is looking at the same numbers I’ve been looking at. I don’t know the rest of the country, but in Texas Republicans got wiped out by heavy handed immigration enforcement. We don’t have a choice about ending that; either our side ends it and gets some credit or the commies take over everything and do it for us.
Posted by: Tom Servo

===

I think something needs to change, but I dont buy this narrative. Why did basically every red state drop Republicans?

I remember hearing in 2006 Republicans did poorly because of immigration concerns.

EVERY election that Republicans do poorly, the same crowd trots out "amnesty now!".

Hispanics voted against Republicans because of cost of living. They simply tend to be more blue collar/working class. Iran had FAR more to do with the wipeout than immigration.

It's also clear to me its deeply personal against Trump.

Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:11 PM (VRTat)

240 What a thing to say in this country, right? Beaten by people who don't bother to speak the language of the country. How long before Spanish becomes the official language of the US? It's rapidly becoming the official language of Texas.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 09, 2026 01:09 PM (SRRAx)
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You know what's funny?

Progs have been bitching for over a decade now that "Americans get their news from different sources!" which creates a "divided America"*, so they think we should have a common news source, just not a common language.

Illustrating a fundamental rule: Libs always say fucked up things.

* -what not like a bundle of sticks bound together?!--for shame!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (Fi81e)

241 re 224: kane, the undertaker's brother? can't remember his name but he's been a guest on gutfeld's show

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (CWTWj)

242 233 Hispanics, urban blacks and white women are a big part of enlisted. They aren't conservative. They want all the freebies they can get.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 01:10 PM (enNUy)

Think through what you're saying about women. The military is heavily male-dominated, and whiter than the US as a whole.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (okun6)

243 After reading these comments, I’m buying a crossbow, canning supplies, ammo, ammo, ammo, because we clearly deserve to lose to these evil twisted people, I feel like pappy o’ Daniel, amnesty, is that the best you boys got, I say let the communists have it, but every politician has to come and look us in the eyes for a day, no exception, and we tar and feather them

Posted by: Fire on the mountain at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (Mc/Y6)

244 Winter is a good time for re-reading Michael Huemer's "The Problem of Political Authority"

Posted by: Oglebay at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (2ap+5)

245 You know what's really chapping my hide? Fox has that retard Ro Khanna on all the time.

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (UjdFS)

246 241 re 224: kane, the undertaker's brother? can't remember his name but he's been a guest on gutfeld's show
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM (CWTWj)

Yes.. I've seen him there and I like him

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 01:13 PM (+gK6I)

247 You know what's really chapping my hide?
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:12 PM


Four words: Elizabeth Arden Hand Creme.

Posted by: Harry Sussex at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (0sNs1)

248 Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 12:56 PM (Fi81e)k

There was an oriental in the Obama administration Steven Chu who wanted a permanent price per gallon for gasoline. The federal gas tax would vary day-to-day to make up the difference between the base price and the set price. "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.” It's been their policy for a long time.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (wGerL)

249 Nude

Posted by: Oglebay at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (2ap+5)

250 I know people here get tired of my expanding fascism past the Nazis and the Italians, and pretty much want to maintain the same definition as the Left-- but what Galloway said is 100% fascist.

What Galloway is talking about, I assume, is Musk not volunteering Starlink to the Ukrainian cause. He should be considered a traitor and executed because the government would have his cooperation--and didn't get it!!

How dare somebody resist the State's plan!! That suggest that they live under a "different set of rules"!!

That's fascist.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 01:15 PM (Fi81e)

251 But deep down, no one wants to go there and really solve this.

Posted by: Leupold at November 09, 2026 01:08 PM (VRTat)

True

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 01:17 PM (RZ+Ww)

252 He might have some kind of an angle on this. Play, make friends but don't give up anything. At least the tone has been sent.

He is the only person that could do what he did with deportations.

Wait and see I guess.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 09, 2026 01:19 PM (NtVYv)

253 Fun while it lasted. Turns out he was always just a politician like the rest.

Posted by: Milk Milk Lemonade at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (blIQ6)

254 John Thune does what he is told to do. That's the reason he was put in his position. That's the reason Trump has been blocked by his own party.

Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 01:24 PM (En+fz)

255 amnesty bill that would normalize illegal aliens who have been here for some period of time -- say 10-15 years.

Only career criminals are being rewarded? I wonder if they get their own Social Security number instead of the Civil War veteran's they've been using.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2026 01:27 PM (bkqk1)

256 It's so easy - implement e-Verify+

Mandatory for every US business.

Watch illegal immigration magically disappear without government agents lifting a finger.

Posted by: Master Blaster at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (FEAjO)

257 Trump can't get a George Bush level approval rating unless he push W's policies.

Forever War--Check

Amnesty--Check.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at November 09, 2026 02:14 PM (s19xO)

258 You don't pick Steven Miller to be CoS if your plan is to be an immigration dove....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 02:15 PM (1ns3n)

THE MORNING RANT: Tesla Pulls the Plug on its Failed Cybertruck Because There’s No Mass Market for EV Pickups

Cybertruck.png

Tesla’s electric pickup truck, the Cybertruck, was announced in 2019 with great fanfare. It was touted as the electric “F150-slayer.” Hundreds of thousands of pre-orders were registered. The anti-carbon media swooned (this was before Elon Musk aligned with Republicans and Donald Trump) and legacy auto manufacturers panicked and started developing their own electric pickup trucks.

The Cybertruck finally went on sale in late 2023. It was a flop of legendary proportions. A few days ago, Elon Musk finally announced that he is pulling the plug on Tesla’s electric pickup truck.

“Tesla to pull the plug on Cybertruck after years of poor sales” [Reuters – 11/06/2026]

Elon Musk had predicted sales of 250,000 Cybertrucks per year, and that it would take on the Ford F150 as the dominant domestic pickup truck. Since the Cybertruck went on sale a little over three years ago, only 73,000 have been sold cumulatively. Sales peaked in 2024 at just 39k units, dropping to 20K in 2025, and tracking even lower in 2026.

In October 2026, Tesla sold less than 2,000 Cybertrucks while Ford sold more than 73,000 F150s, none of which were electric. (Ford sold exactly zero units of its recently-discontinued electric F150 Conflagration Lightning pickup in October.)

Musk and Tesla have been wildly successful selling electric vehicles as a daily commuter car to upscale professionals, especially those who own a house in which they can install a home charger. As a percentage of the light vehicle marketplace, it’s not a huge niche, but it still represents a lot of car buyers, and Tesla dominates it. A great many of the people whose station in life once steered them toward BMW, Mercedes, and Volvo are now driving Teslas. But they also tend to have at least one gas-powered vehicle in their garage.

Pickup trucks have a much different driver demographic. The upscale person who wants a pickup might already have a Tesla as his daily driver, so he chooses a gasoline-powered King Ranch F150 (or similar competitor offering) that can serve any pickup purpose, while still conveying affluence. For a person whose only vehicle is a pickup truck, however, the Cybertruck was not an option at all.

Despite the emphatic market rejection of electric pickups over the past few years, including the cancellation of the much-hyped flagships from Tesla and Ford, several more electric pickups have been announced. These include the Scout (owned by Volkswagen,) and the Slate from an investment group involving Jeff Bezos. Ford has also decided to lose several billion dollars more with yet another soon-to-fail electric pickup, the Fathom .

The new electric pickup companies are already hyping their pre-orders, with Scout and Slate both announcing they’ve taken deposits for more than 150k “reservations.” Unfortunately, pre-orders and reservations have a poor track record of converting into actual sales.

In Nov 2019, it was announced that 250,000 people had already put down deposits to pre-order a Cybertruck. As noted above, not even 75,000 Cybertrucks were actually delivered over three years before Tesla pulled the plug.

In 2021, Ford took deposits on almost 200,000 reservations for its F150 Lightning before closing new reservations due to “excessive demand.” Based on media buzz and all those pre-orders, Ford projected annual sales in excess of 150k electric pickup trucks per year. It barely sold 100k in total over the next five years, despite massive discounting to make the glut of unsellable Lightnings go away. The pre-orders had evaporated.

There has not been a commercially successful electric pickup truck because there is neither a market for one, nor a practical need. But like conquistadors in pursuit of the gold of Cibola, mismanaged auto manufacturers keep chasing the imaginary riches from a mass-market electric pickup. They are doomed to failure. If Elon Musk and Tesla couldn’t succeed in this market, it’s because the market doesn’t exist.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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1 Oh, no!


Anyway....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (bFu5X)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (NcvvS)

3 And....SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (bFu5X)

4 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (SN8r1)

5 The Democrats will fix this.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (MWfyi)

6 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (bFu5X)

7 But where am I going to take a dump now?

Posted by: Scott Galloway, Serious Internet Influencer at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (3aLWR)

8 Do the preorders require a nonrefundable deposit? If not, then they indicate precisely nothing about the demand for the vehicle.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (aTl7+)

9 Battery powered trucks?

Lol

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (RORbl)

10
They are doomed to failure. If Elon Musk and Tesla couldn’t succeed in this market, it’s because the market doesn’t exist.

___________

Trump could mandate that all trucks in the FedGov be Cybertrucks. Watch heads explode!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (eRlcH)

11 Ford has also decided to lose several billion dollars more with yet another soon-to-fail electric pickup, the Fathom .

I find this to be unfathomable.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

12 Libtards stopped buying Tesla so there's that as well.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2Drhq)

13 I do see cyber trucks every so often and I don't get the point.

If I want a truck I want a flatbed to put something in - a lawn mover, snow blower, etc.

You can't do that with a cybertruck right?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (sKqQm)

14 Good. Get those ugly things off the road.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)

15 Project much?

A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2GVsD)

16 Not to worry, though. Jaguar's new EV flagship will sell MILLLLLIONNNNNS!

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

17 Good. Get those ugly things off the road.

Right? Where's Lady Bird Johnson when you need her.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

18 It will appear in the next "Back to the Future" remake.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (RIvkX)

19 err Elon Musk

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (2GVsD)

20 Wow look at that. The price of gas is dropping like a stone, unemployment is down, job creation is up and the overall economy is improving.

Boy, who saw that coming?

Let’s elect some communists, islamists and America haters. We need a direction change.

Posted by: That Guy at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (fUkuv)

21 I've already seen people huffing copium and claiming that the Ford dealers can't keep F-150 Lightning in stock.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (RjOoY)

22 I think the cyber truck is a hideous monstrosity. But I also applaud musk for building it. Taking risks like that is good. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Don’t be afraid to try shit.

I also wonder if it would have been successful had the left not declared jihad on Tesla.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:06 AM (JQfkC)

23 A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

This idiot clearly doesn't understand that firing squads were for honorable soldiers. Hanging was for low lives.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)

24 21 I've already seen people huffing copium and claiming that the Ford dealers can't keep F-150 Lightning in stock.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (RjOoY)


Give it’s no longer available for sale they are right technically.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:06 AM (JQfkC)

25
The head of BP said that the company's pursuit of renewables was a waste of shareholders money.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (eRlcH)

26 Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2GVsD)
====='
That was my first thought when I heard this ahistorical so-called professor speak. Vicious and uneducated, like his students I imagine.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (RIvkX)

27 what I find strange about this is that I see Cybertrucks all over the damn place here?

yet they only sold 70k of them?

all to SE PA apparently

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (qBivk)

28
1. Cut electricity production
2. Raise electricity prices
3. Require everyone to buy electric cars

Posted by: The Plan at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (MWfyi)

29 Buck what's the likely ceiling on the market for EVs of all types, and aren't we about there already?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (U/Byj)

30 They were a vanity item more than anything.

But I did laugh at the folks trying to make a go at making them functional.

Like, saw one dude hauling a refrigerator in the back.

Looked as natural as strapping a fridge to the back of a Pinto.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (Cw3N8)

31 I admit it's not a very good one.

Posted by: The Plan at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (MWfyi)

32 I've already seen people huffing copium and claiming that the Ford dealers can't keep F-150 Lightning in stock.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM


People...just stop it.

Posted by: The Chicken at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (bFu5X)

33 what I find strange about this is that I see Cybertrucks all over the damn place here?

yet they only sold 70k of them?

all to SE PA apparently


I see them in southern NH/North east MA burbs too

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:08 AM (sKqQm)

34 Buck what's the likely ceiling on the market for EVs of all types, and aren't we about there already?

Whatever it is, I think we reached it some time ago. The ceiling drops year after year, because those who want one for status already have one, and the rest of the people have realized their shortcomings and limitations, and won't buy one.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

35 1. Cut electricity production
2. Raise electricity prices
3. Require everyone to buy electric cars


The plan was never to replace everyone's ICE car with an EV.

The plan was to remove ICE cars from the non-elites and only make EVs available to those the elites saw as doing something useful for them

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (sKqQm)

36 Cyber trucks always look like they escaped from a Roblox movie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (dJgiD)

37 In Commie utopias, it is cheaper to either work enemies of the state to death or shoot them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (2GVsD)

38
Back to the Future reboot: a Tesla truck that stalls right at the climax of the big rescue scene because it's out of charge.

And Michael or the Doc will plug in a vape pen or something that gets it juuuuust enough juice to race across the line while the lightning strikes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (XJ22o)

39 I do see cyber trucks every so often and I don't get the point.

If I want a truck I want a flatbed to put something in - a lawn mover, snow blower, etc.

You can't do that with a cybertruck right?
Posted by: 18-1

It was never meant to be a truck truck as Whoopi would say. It was supposed to be a badass looking futuristic thing that happened to kids look like a pickup truck. I doubt anyone bought it with the intention of towing anything with it or using the bed for anything more than some shit from Home Depot.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (JQfkC)

40 The only EV use case I can see is if you live in a city that doesn't get particularly cold or hot - DC, SF, etc.

Anywhere else they are strictly inferior to ICE cars

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

41 I dunno, we have LOTS of them around here. Maybe they especially appealed to military and veterans. (Also loads of other Teslas, too.)

Posted by: GWB at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (kU0PQ)

42 Now you understand why 'ban ICE' is popular, they thought you are talking about cars.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (2GVsD)

43 With the collapse in crude price, EVs ought to be less attractive to potential customers. Here locally, gasoline is down 15% over the weekend.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (Jr5Lq)

44 Cyber trucks always look like they escaped from a Roblox movie.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM


The only one I ever liked was the one Brandon Herrera wrapped to look like some video game vehicle and then mounted a .50 on. Because a Cybertechnical would piss off all the right people.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (bFu5X)

45
Someone in the ONT said today was going to be a bloodbath on Wall Street. Dow is +900 and oil is down $2.50+.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (eRlcH)

46 Well I thought I saw (and it made sense) that used EVs are a very bad proposition due to cost of battery replacement, which cuts out a whole portion of a consumer vehicle's life-cycle. Also that a majority of EV owners did not plan to get another one to replace their first one. Possibly that's inaccurate or has changed.

Once all subsidies (both up front and operational, like HOV-lane privileges and the like) are gone, I'd bet $5 there's a pretty small niche for EVs.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (U/Byj)

47 what I find strange about this is that I see Cybertrucks all over the damn place here?

yet they only sold 70k of them?

all to SE PA apparently
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (qBivk)


Or (unsurprisingly) to SpaceX. Every video of Starships and SuperHeavy boosters rolling out to launch pads or test sites features scads of Cybertrucks in company.

Posted by: far cry at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (+IsEU)

48 I personally know one guy that has a tesla.

He's right leaning and older.

I suspect this is likely the current audience.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (sKqQm)

49 It seemed like there were a ton of them around because how much they stood out. You see 100 Toyota Camrys you don’t even notice. You see 2 Cyber trucks you think wow they’re everywhere.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:12 AM (JQfkC)

50
I did laugh at the folks trying to make a go at making them functional.

Like, saw one dude hauling a refrigerator in the back.

Looked as natural as strapping a fridge to the back of a Pinto.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

=================

I saw a guy getting ratio'd to death on X for showing off the mad offroad capabilities of his cybertruck. Drives on rocky mountain roads! Goes up mild inclines!

A thousand people in the comments saying, "So, my Toyota Corolla?" "My Volvo?" etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:12 AM (XJ22o)

51 I always thought they were ugly

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:12 AM (enNUy)

52 Someone in the ONT said today was going to be a bloodbath on Wall Street. Dow is +900 and oil is down $2.50+.

I asked AI why:

No one believes the Dems will do anything about data centers at least in the short term

"Inflation" will go down because Trump will face more difficulty with tariffs

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:13 AM (sKqQm)

53 It was a dumb idea.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:13 AM (SN8r1)

54 I always thought they were ugly

The Pontiac Aztek has rolled into Chat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:13 AM (2GVsD)

55 all to SE PA apparently
Posted by: Black Orchid

And NoVa.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (77rzZ)

56 Covid vaccine was announced 5 days after the election in 2020.

Oil is dropping bigly a few days after the election this year.

It’s almost as if…

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (JQfkC)

57 It's not a pickup truck.
It's a very fast, very ugly, very expensive electric four door El Camino.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (2Ez/1)

58 Probably does not help that the cybertruck is ugly and a vandalism magnet.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (HFrEr)

59 Bring back the Pacer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (Hgt7l)

60 Cyber truck = Fashion statement

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (XeU6L)

61
>>250,000 people had already put down deposits to pre-order a Cybertruck

>>Ford took deposits on almost 200,000 reservations for its F150 Lightning

===================

I am puzzled by this, though, since the sales were way below. Did people cancel their pre-orders? I bet some of them were nonrefundable.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (XJ22o)

62 *ahem*

Well, wasn't marketed to the right audience!

Posted by: Residents of TRON at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (rOKnE)

63 I was at a launch event last week for a new 7000 pound 2-door EV that costs over half a million bucks.

Rolls Spectre II.

Judging by the clientele at this event, I suspect most buyers will be rich black athletes and rapper guys.

Definitely not my kind of car. Was a fun event, though.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (iFTx/)

64 Brown acid was involved with the design of the Aztek.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (SN8r1)

65 It’s almost as if…
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (JQfkC)

. . . it’s fake and ghey?

Posted by: RI Red at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (zYph5)

66 IIRC the deposit was $100. So not really that much of a commitment.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (JQfkC)

67 >> Cyber truck = Fashion statement


"EXACTLY!"
-- Motorola Brick Phone

Posted by: Residents of TRON at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (rOKnE)

68 I saw a guy getting ratio'd to death on X for showing off the mad offroad capabilities of his cybertruck. Drives on rocky mountain roads! Goes up mild inclines!

A thousand people in the comments saying, "So, my Toyota Corolla?" "My Volvo?" etc.
--
I really enjoyed the Hummer commercial of their electric offering.
Out there in the desert, tearing around like mad, spitting roster tails of dirt--so bad ass!

And I'm like, "OK, so where did you hide the diesel generator in order to be able to do all that hot-dogging 100 miles from the nearest charging station?"

I bet they have Jaguar-level sales numbers for that ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (Cw3N8)

69 To be fair....Ol' Sloppy 'Gina announced she would be placing new taxes on Musk's production facilities like the Gigafactory.

Musk credited that to the end of the CyberTruck in his announcement.

Jobs lost due to Smelly 'Gina.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 11:17 AM (YSUhf)

70 It’s almost as if…
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (JQfkC)

. . . it’s fake and ghey?
Posted by: RI Red at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM


And lame.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:17 AM (bFu5X)

71 >>>23 A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Wait, hold up, is the left admitting now that the Rosenbergs were actual traitors? They are letting the truth slip out? Because according to all their propaganda, including the play Angels in America, the Rosenbergs were innocent martyrs.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:17 AM (Toos7)

72 "Oil is dropping bigly a few days after the election this year."

The drop began the day before the election.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Jr5Lq)

73 Take that, Elon!

Posted by: Jessica Welch's Frigidaire Vagina at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Hgt7l)

74 It would be better business model if you could grab the pick-up truck and push is backwards along the ground a few times to charge up the friction motor.

Then let it go and... ZOOM!!!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (MDua2)

75 I personally know one guy that has a tesla.

He's right leaning and older.

I suspect this is likely the current audience.

Posted by: 18-1

There's a Cybertruck around here that has a Gadsden Flag license plate.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (77rzZ)

76 Rolls Spectre II.

What a missed opportunity. They could've called it the Skyfall.

Posted by: far cry at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (+IsEU)

77 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

78 Project much?

A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2GVsD)
_____

I thought the left loved the Rosenbergs and thought they were heroes?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (iFTx/)

79 After the *biden years of pushing EV's and then not building out the charging stations required for them, why on earth would anyone still favor one?

Every once in a while I'll see where some retailer, office or whatever will tout that they have "a changing station" for your EV.

"A" As in one.

There's no infrastructure to support them. Let alone the electrical capacity to charge several million of them daily/nightly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (RORbl)

80 How much can Mush exit TX at this point? He has yuuuge investments made/planned, right? Anyone think he'll abandon the state? Or possibly he assumes things won't get that bad, and that the fabled (and mostly mythical) "pendulum swing" will mitigate the idiocy in a few years?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (U/Byj)

81 77 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

What about them? They’re everywhere now.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (JQfkC)

82 LizLem

Yes they are. Everything is tactical and today with them since yesterday can be erased.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (2GVsD)

83 "The upscale person who wants a pickup might already have a Tesla as his daily driver"

I always have to call something out because it is always overlooked: almost noooooobody except a small handul of cat ladies in chevy bolts has a EV as their only vehicle. Sure, many daily drive their EV, but it's not their only vehicle.

Well, I suppose a few people do the two Tesla household. That's more severe form of the idiocy that gets people shot at charging stations in Bumblefuck because they thought a multi-charge road trip was a good idea.

I respect Musk's business empire but a disproportionate amount of his drivers lack common sense.

Posted by: heya at November 09, 2026 11:20 AM (Km6p/)

84
I thought the left loved the Rosenbergs and thought they were heroes?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (iFTx/)

__________

They loved Sacco and Vanzetti, as well as Alger Hiss. But they were all guilty too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:20 AM (eRlcH)

85 Well, Ford is now building the "Fathom," a new electric truck that will undoubtedly be a piece of sh*t.

It's like they are actively trying to destroy shareholder value.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:20 AM (k5CNB)

86
A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.


The chair was against the wall.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (Cqx++)

87 Yeah it’s not like Elon can just move to a new state tomorrow. He’s made a lot of investments in Texas and you can’t just pack up a factory and move it in a week.

I think he’s stuck there for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (JQfkC)

88
I'm sure Musk will reach an "accommodation" with the Texas regime.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (eRlcH)

89 >>Wait, hold up, is the left admitting now that the Rosenbergs were actual traitors? They are letting the truth slip out? Because according to all their propaganda, including the play Angels in America, the Rosenbergs were innocent martyrs.


Heh, have you never seen them use the vilest anti-gay and/or misogynist slurs against conservative gays and women? Or, when discussing immigration, lament, "Who will clean our homes and tend our lawns?!"

All support of the various demographics is fake. They happily slur any/all of these groups in the proper context - demonizing someone on the other side.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (rOKnE)

90 "I'm sure Musk will reach an "accommodation" with the Texas regime."

DeSantis invited him to move to FL.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Jr5Lq)

91 "80 How much can Mush exit TX at this point? He has yuuuge investments made/planned, right? Anyone think he'll abandon the state? Or possibly he assumes things won't get that bad, and that the fabled (and mostly mythical) "pendulum swing" will mitigate the idiocy in a few years?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (U/Byj)"

If he doesn't have solid plans to bail from the whole US already then he's either being stupid, or has decided to just throw in the towel past a certain point. I don't think he is stupid.

Posted by: heya at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Km6p/)

92 Wait, hold up, is the left admitting now that the Rosenbergs were actual traitors? They are letting the truth slip out? Because according to all their propaganda, including the play Angels in America, the Rosenbergs were innocent martyrs.

It would be amusing to ask a lefty to describe the Venona Files.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Riz8t)

93 2nd look at the Gremlin?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (wVcYX)

94 >>Yeah it’s not like Elon can just move to a new state tomorrow. He’s made a lot of investments in Texas and you can’t just pack up a factory and move it in a week.

I think he’s stuck there for the foreseeable future.



Wonder if he's now ready to recognize the connection between immigration and election results?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (rOKnE)

95 Ford EVs are pieces of shit. Their ICE vehicles are shit. No mechanics. No parts. Constant recalls. They are covering themselves in glory.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (enNUy)

96
69 To be fair....Ol' Sloppy 'Gina announced she would be placing new taxes on Musk's production facilities like the Gigafactory.”

A Texas governor does not have the power to impose taxes by decree. Her supporters are going to be disappointed at how little she’s able to accomplish.

And now I’m back to thanking the authors of the 1876 constitution for making the Texas Governor one of the weakest Governor’s positions in the country.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 11:23 AM (dJgiD)

97 Well, Ford is now building the "Fathom," a new electric truck that will undoubtedly be a piece of sh*t.

It's like they are actively trying to destroy shareholder value.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Fathom= 6 feet under

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2026 11:23 AM (MDua2)

98 The Cybertruck sold pretty well, for what it actually was, a statement car. Something you buy to say, loudly, "Look at me!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (yky4J)

99 >>It would be amusing to ask a lefty to describe the Venona Files.


"Totally overhyped Netflix show!"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (rOKnE)

100 I logged onto ConsumerReports this morning and saw something that I hadn't really thought about and it's-

Pick-up Trucks definitely played a part in the Republicans losing Texas.

There was a list of the ICE vehicles which cost the most to fill up and of course pick-ups were in the mix at the top.

Texas is loaded with pick-ups. Whether in the country for work or in town for driving to college, they are everywhere.

Absolutel, people who were paying $140+ to fill-up were pissed off.

and understandably even if stupidly voted in the Democrats.

Just wait till the Democrats start workin' their mojo, trucktards.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (YSUhf)

101 always have to call something out because it is always overlooked: almost noooooobody except a small handul of cat ladies in chevy bolts has a EV as their only vehicle. Sure, many daily drive their EV, but it's not their only vehicle.

Well, I suppose a few people do the two Tesla household.

—

A family a few houses down from me has a Rivian and a Tesla, nothing else.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (JQfkC)

102 81 77 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

What about them? They’re everywhere now.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM

How are they practically and economically viable?
Short distance trips and recharged every night?
Subsidized?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

103 This sort of reminds me of the last Indiana Jones movie.

The backdrop is "the red scare" and how mean America is being to leftwing people who mostly definitely are not Soviet spies/symps.

Then the action starts and its commie agents in America trying to steal American knowledge/relics.

The movie overall sucked but in this plot point it was schizophrenic.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (sKqQm)

104 Ford CEO is shit. Way to kill a company completely dead.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:25 AM (enNUy)

105
I always thought they were ugly
Posted by: NCKate

=================

I think that was deliberate. Sure, "sleek, modern" blah-di-blah, but Elon's designers evidently worked from this Duchampian philosophy of design that's downright hostile to beauty. It spits at you and then dares you to wipe off your face. It's the vehicle you design when you are artistically drained, completely out of ideas. The Empty Corridor writing passage.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:25 AM (XJ22o)

106 It would be amusing to ask a lefty to describe the Venona Files.
Posted by: Archimedes

I asked my shitlib aunt about this. She had no idea wtf I was talking about. Then said that's not true. Typical left wing tard.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:25 AM (SN8r1)

107 announcing they’ve taken deposits for more than 150k “reservations.” Unfortunately, pre-orders and reservations have a poor track record of converting into actual sales."

No kidding.

I hear online gambling is a thing, too.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (pfXMo)

108 They'll all be off the road once the batteries die. I think I did see once somebody put an engine in a cybertruck.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (n5tGW)

109 Tom Servo thanks for that reminder, TX is set up quite differently than most states. So I'm hoping the Senate there will fill the role of Trump's veto on the national level - likely able to block at least the most idiotic and pernicious crap. Hoping those RGV sheriffs stick with their 287gs. I suppose no prospect of the brazen violation of state law by Houston and soon other cities on ICE cooperation will be prosecuted by the incoming garbage governor and AG.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (U/Byj)

110
I asked my shitlib aunt about this. She had no idea wtf I was talking about. Then said that's not true. Typical left wing tard.


Lefties live in weird bubbles where anything that would cause issues for their world view is carefully removed.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (sKqQm)

111 My neighbor was all gung-ho on the EV stuff, and a few years ago ordered a hybrid pick-up truck. He was told the wait was 6 months. Then it was 12 months. Then it was 18 months, so he got tired of waiting and bought a plain old gas Tundra. No matter how good something sounds, if you don't deliver, the customer goes elsewhere.

Which, by the way, is why Communists want to restrict your options. As my old professor used to say, you'll eat potatoes and like it.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (QaH55)

112 It doesn't look very truck-y

I think that was one problem

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (ZxPkt)

113 I look at a Cybertruck and wonder what the body shop charges to fix a minor fender bender.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Jr5Lq)

114 Most folks driving those EVs around think, "look at me! look at me! I'm so cool! look at meeeee!

Most folks seeing some asshat driving an EV around think, "look at that dumbass! look at that dumbass! What an asshole! look at that dumbass!".

Posted by: Joe Q Public at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (ett92)

115 My data center comment was Willowed. Shorter answer:

I don't mind data centers. But people, and the water, natural, and energy resources they need to live, have to come first. It's beyond gross that our "betters," instead of respecting citizens asking legit, rational, probing questions about building massive tech energy sucks the size of Manhattan, are instead calling those America citizens Chinese psyops.

They are too enamored by the dollar signs. It's been disgusting to see. And the fear porn about "but China!" turns me off.

And no, not all deserts are useless wastelands. Especially the ones by the Great Salt Lake.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Toos7)

116 You can't do that with a cybertruck right?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (sKqQm)

It has a bed with a sliding cover. As a truck, it is about as useful as a big-block El Camino. As a ride, it's kind of cool. And I am no EV fanboi, at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (yky4J)

117
Ford has a better idea.

Quality is Job #1.

Face it, you fucked up. You trusted us.

- - Ford ad campaigns

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (wVcYX)

118 The world needed an electric mustang. Thanks Ford.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (enNUy)

119 How are they practically and economically viable?
Short distance trips and recharged every night?
Subsidized?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

They’re perfect for local deliveries. The typical Amazon truck stays within a small footprint. They’re driving block to block not hundreds of miles between cities. Charge overnight, use during the day.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (JQfkC)

120 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans."

Delivery vehicle not delivering = not making money.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (pfXMo)

121 All you need to know about why Tesla is discontinuing the Cybertruck:

https://tinyurl.com/mwu6jp26

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (QNSrI)

122 I can think of two reasons for producing yet another version of electric trucks, and EVs in general.
1 - A hedge against Democrat investigations and political proctology exams. Having EVs in the lineup proves they're all aboard with green energy transformations of the world, even though they understand the lack of practicality.
2 - Some executives really believe they are going to change the world, usher in the clean electric future when the weather is never bad. The first products just weren't quite right for the public but this time they'll get it right.

Posted by: George V at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (g6ahB)

123 RIP, ugly truckling.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (+9wcF)

124
The Cybertruck sold pretty well, for what it actually was, a statement car. Something you buy to say, loudly, "Look at me!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

================

I see several of them every time I go out here in smooth, sunny SoCal. Like, what was your need?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (XJ22o)

125 I suppose no prospect of the brazen violation of state law by Houston and soon other cities on ICE cooperation will be prosecuted by the incoming garbage governor and AG.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (U/Byj)

That's really within the power of local DAs in TX. But that's not much consolation, given the political affiliations of most urban and border areas.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (HFrEr)

126 Trucky isn't a word!

Truckish. It doesn't look truckish.

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (ZxPkt)

127 My local AMZ driver drives around with her doors open and a phone in one hand 24-7 including when she is driving.

But in fairness none of my stuff has arrived damaged and it has all arrived.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (sKqQm)

128 a few years ago ordered a hybrid pick-up truck. He was told the wait was 6 months. Then it was 12 months. Then it was 18 months"

Scout? As in VW...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (pfXMo)

129 How much can Mush exit TX at this point? He has yuuuge investments made/planned, right? Anyone think he'll abandon the state? Or possibly he assumes things won't get that bad, and that the fabled (and mostly mythical) "pendulum swing" will mitigate the idiocy in a few years?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (U/Byj)

He's probably going to try to stick it out. BUT, he and his family better have go-bags packed and ready.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (g8Ew8)

130 How are they practically and economically viable?
Short distance trips and recharged every night?
Subsidized?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)


Using electric vehicles for that sort of application makes sense. I'll bet that the costs aren't out of line with conventional ICE delivery vans.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (k5CNB)

131 Get in line for a Speedwagon:

https://reotrucks.com/

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (2Ez/1)

132 How many H1Bs in TX is Elon responsible for?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (enNUy)

133 Texas is loaded with pick-ups. Whether in the country for work or in town for driving to college, they are everywhere.

Absolutel, people who were paying $140+ to fill-up were pissed off.

and understandably even if stupidly voted in the Democrats.

Just wait till the Democrats start workin' their mojo, trucktards.
Posted by: naturalfake


Only people who were paying $140+ to fill up were driving diesels. I drive daily and fill up 3x a week. Never over $70 at one fill up.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (dylrg)

134
2 - Some executives really believe they are going to change the world, usher in the clean electric future when the weather is never bad. The first products just weren't quite right for the public but this time they'll get it right.
Posted by: George V

===================

This is the right amount of stupid in all dimensions for accounting for the existence of fleets of EVs. Note especially, "We just have to get the right vehicles in there" and "We just have to get the right weather in there." Familiar variations on the eternal socialist lament of getting the right people in there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (XJ22o)

135 I can think of two reasons for producing yet another version of electric trucks, and EVs in general.
1 - A hedge against Democrat investigations and political proctology exams. Having EVs in the lineup proves they're all aboard with green energy transformations of the world, even though they understand the lack of practicality.

2 - Some executives really believe they are going to change the world, usher in the clean electric future when the weather is never bad. The first products just weren't quite right for the public but this time they'll get it right.
Posted by: George V at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (g6ahB)

Annny time now . . . .

Posted by: Segway at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (wVcYX)

136 NIMBY is a perfectly legit approach to data centers, just as it is for refineries. Expecting different results from the exercise would be idiotic of course. Darwin awards aren't just for guys attaching weather balloons to lounge chairs.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (U/Byj)

137 I saw a lime green Tesla truck in line at the carwash yesterday. If you think the silver ones are ugly . . .

Posted by: bluebell at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (uyuYG)

138 OT: I read a new one today.
Someone commented that Aisha wasn't nine when Mo (who was in his 50s) had his way with her, she had her first period 9 years earlier...
Yeah, that's how normal people measure age... From when they had their first period. I guess I'm still zero.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (l3cgK)

139 How are they practically and economically viable?"

They aren't. Take a look at the "temporary holiday" Amazon fleet.

They're not 'lectric

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (pfXMo)

140 Company/FY2025 H-1B approvals

Tesla/1,091

SpaceX/21

Neuralink/11

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:33 AM (sKqQm)

141 Tom Servo thanks for that reminder, TX is set up quite differently than most states. So I'm hoping the Senate there will fill the role of Trump's veto on the national level - likely able to block at least the most idiotic and pernicious crap. Hoping those RGV sheriffs stick with their 287gs. I suppose no prospect of the brazen violation of state law by Houston and soon other cities on ICE cooperation will be prosecuted by the incoming garbage governor and AG.
--
Yeah, she's lying about what all she can do.
It's always been known that the TX gov is one of the weakest govs in the nation.
But their LIVs don't know that.
And the legislature meeting once every 2 years is deliberate. It was always a slog getting even R priorities with majority in favor through both chambers in time.
So she calls a special session--that's literally the only power she has; but it can only consider named reasons, not general bills.
And the senate gavels in and votes down the bill and gavels out.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:33 AM (Cw3N8)

142 If Slate can meet th $25K announced base price point (BIG if) there might be a market.
Projected 150 mi range (but probably a lot less running the AC) might make sense for a lot of urban and suburban businesses.Maybe.

Posted by: Peter B at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (jZmn5)

143 I can own three F150s and a Toyota for what a cybertruck goes for, oh,,,wait.

Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (0LlxY)

144 >>If he doesn't have solid plans to bail from the whole US already then he's either being stupid, or has decided to just throw in the towel past a certain point. I don't think he is stupid.

And go where?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

145 Scout headquarters is here in Charlotte I think. Way to ruin another icon by going all electric.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (enNUy)

146
I dunno, we have LOTS of them around here. Maybe they especially appealed to military and veterans. (Also loads of other Teslas, too.)
Posted by: GWB at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (kU0PQ)




When Chocolate Fonzie was running things, they built a bunch of solar charging stations on bases and National Guard posts, including my local ANG post less than a mile from my shop. Two big motorized solar panels that are hooked up to 4 parking spots. If ever there was a parking spot that screamed "Commanding Officer and Staff only"...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (iqcvy)

147 Actually, 73,000 Cyber Trucks is 73,000 more than I thought they would sell. Even if somebody wanted an electric truck, the Cyber Truck is just too weird to be useful.

Posted by: Ralph at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (8WZD4)

148 One thing I’ve heard is that now Texas border will be thrown wide open. But CA’s deep blue and the border there is white right? Arizona has a Dem governor border is edited there as well. So how would a blue Texas affect the border in that way? The border is controlled by the Feds.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (JQfkC)

149 >>If he doesn't have solid plans to bail from the whole US already then he's either being stupid, or has decided to just throw in the towel past a certain point. I don't think he is stupid.

And go where?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet has opinions at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (wVcYX)

150 But I did laugh at the folks trying to make a go at making them functional.

Like, saw one dude hauling a refrigerator in the back.

Looked as natural as strapping a fridge to the back of a Pinto.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (Cw3N

Musk should have built an EV station wagon with a sliding roof, like this Studebaker Wagonaire. I have owned several of them. And yes, I did haul a fridge in one of them. And a welding outfit, standing upright.

https://tinyurl.com/bde9cwwd

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (yky4J)

151 Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (enNUy)

Your hash properly belongs to me.

Posted by: Henri, le Chat Noir at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (+IsEU)

152 Take a look at the "temporary holiday" Amazon fleet.

They're not 'lectric

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (pfXMo)


Because volume doubles for a month or so around Christmas! It would be insane to purchase peak capacity rather than rent for the short time the extra trucks are needed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (k5CNB)

153 >>> Yes they are. Everything is tactical and today with them since yesterday can be erased.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (2GVsD)

It's very "we've always been at war with Eastasia!" of them, that's for sure.

The Rosenbergs were also Jewish, and in the modern, rapidly antisemitic DSA DNC, that means they are expendable.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (Toos7)

154 And go where? /i]

Yep...

The EU is farther long the gay communism route

China would destroy him and take his companies

Russia? He'd get to keep his companies though the EU would steal everything they could get their hands on and he'd have to do whatever Putin wanted

Japan? Hmm...maybe?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (sKqQm)

155 One of our sons flirted with buying a Rivian cyber truck recently because the cost of gas was burning his cash and his 2019 Chevy has 200,000+ miles on it.

It started out pretty well. He kept a eye on the charge level and stopped for a charge just about any time he saw a charger if he was near half charge.

Then he found himself in Flatonia, Tx, after dark, sitting at the only charger in town with a couple of cars ahead of him. Got home near midnight and gave it back the next day.

Posted by: DanMan at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (8uzBS)

156 If Slate can meet th $25K announced base price point"

A somewhat well known influencer (James May) did a bit on them recently. Both he and his assistant spec'ed one out. The assistant's was around $34k, iirc...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:37 AM (pfXMo)

157 Scout? As in VW...
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (pfXMo)

IIRC, it was the Ford Lightning.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 09, 2026 11:38 AM (QaH55)

158 >>Yep...

>>The EU is farther long the gay communism route

That's one thing I haven't seen discussed much as we discuss the recent election. The same leftward lurch has been happening around the world. The EU is further along the path, starting to see some inevitable early stage pushback, but the problem with always running from leftists is you eventually run out of places to go. And we have.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:38 AM (viF8m)

159 Scott Galloway is the dumbest academic I've seen something from.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e)

160 Border is fed and is in pretty good shape from end to end. But TX is by far the largest and most complicated border sector. TX's full-on support to and coordination with BP and ICE have been a big factor in securing the TX border. Force multiplier, and force-augmenting. I think all border sheriffs save El Paso have 287gs and are standing by them - this is another force multiplier for ICE.

States can't interfered with feds securing actual border/controlling entry, but they can help/hurt in terms of switching off/on the magnets of lax internal enforcement/"benefits" etc that affect the behavior of intending invaders.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (U/Byj)

161 I've heard Elon is phasing down the cyber truck to make a larger push for electric taxis? He sees more profit there?

We need to bring back taxis that are distinctly iconic, like the big yellow taxis of the 70s but cooler. Maybe he will be inspired by the taxis in Fifth Element.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Toos7)

162 Because volume doubles for a month or so around Christmas"

So? The point is that outside of Amazon's fleet, there just isn't a mass quantity of EVans. They're just not fiscally practical.

How much is Amazon pissing away on them, anyway?

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (pfXMo)

163 Is electric taxi a good business model? The whole reason Uber exploded is the taxi monopoly were gouging people and the taxi companies have been pushing back in a bunch of big cities

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (sKqQm)

164 Then he found himself in Flatonia, Tx, after dark, sitting at the only charger in town with a couple of cars ahead of him. Got home near midnight and gave it back the next day.
Posted by: DanMan at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (8uzBS)


As long as you're in DFW, Rivian, etc can work very well. Lots of fast chargers around.

But, Texas is BIG, baby, and if you're outside of DFW on the road, you better be planning and paying close attention. Cuz charge stations are not like gas stations.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (YSUhf)

165 And go where?

Get your ass to Mars.

Posted by: Hauser at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (+IsEU)

166 And go where? /i]

Yep...

The EU is farther long the gay communism route

China would destroy him and take his companies

Russia? He'd get to keep his companies though the EU would steal everything they could get their hands on and he'd have to do whatever Putin wanted

Japan? Hmm...maybe?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (sKqQm)

French Guyana. France already has a rocket launch facility there. Make France an offer they can't refuse. Hell, he could probably buy the whole country now.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (g8Ew8)

167 IIRC, it was the Ford Lightning."

Not hybrid...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (pfXMo)

168 But, Texas is BIG, baby, and if you're outside of DFW on the road, you better be planning and paying close attention. Cuz charge stations are not like gas stations.

I've seen EV users argue long distance driving isn't a big deal because of course you can wait a few hours at a road stop to recharge wherever and whenever you want to go

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (sKqQm)

169 The Rosenbergs were also Jewish, and in the modern, rapidly antisemitic DSA DNC, that means they are expendable.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (Toos7)


Julius was a committed communist from an early age, and Ethel was a hard-core socialist. In my book, that makes them anti-Semites!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (k5CNB)

170 I see enough cybertrucks here, (Colorado Front range) that I thought they had buyers. Of course the cybertrucks stand out so I notice every one, vs the F150s being so common I hardly notice them.

My big change was getting a gas 350 after driving a diesel for over 20 years. I drive the pickup just once or twice a week, usually towing a moderate load, but sometimes towing the heavy gooseneck trailer when I'm going to camp somewhere. I wanted the godzilla gas engine because of that occasional heavy towing, but I'm not towing heavy construction equipment every day where I need a diesel and the EPA has made diesels so much worse now then twenty year ago before they mandated DEF and other crap.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (PV+Zw)

171
Well, Ford is now building the "Fathom," a new electric truck that will undoubtedly be a piece of sh*t.

It's like they are actively trying to destroy shareholder value.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

================

Generals prepping for the previous war.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (XJ22o)

172 All Amazon local delivery trucks I see around me are electric now. The changeover was sometime during the summer.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (JQfkC)

173 Refineries cause oil cancer.

Everybody in Delaware got it.

That was what the last Democrat president told us, it doesn't sound like he had proof though, but he was a Dem, so they don't print "without proof" about Dems.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (Fi81e)

174 I've seen EV users argue long distance driving isn't a big deal because of course you can wait a few hours at a road stop to recharge wherever and whenever you want to go

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (sKqQm)


I consider the day to be a huge failure if I spend more than five minutes refueling.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (k5CNB)

175 Didn't all the TX border counties going blue usher in a Dem president in 2028 more than likely? Do they remember all the illegals pouring into their counties? Apparently gas is too high.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:43 AM (enNUy)

176 159 Scott Galloway is the dumbest academic I've seen something from.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e

He's taking a dump on his laptop to own you and your pixels right now. Pray he does not dump harder.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (HFrEr)

177 Would we even have to worry about Russia in Ukraine had it not been for people like the Rosenbergs?

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (Fi81e)

178 One thing I’ve heard is that now Texas border will be thrown wide open. But CA’s deep blue and the border there is white right? Arizona has a Dem governor border is edited there as well. So how would a blue Texas affect the border in that way? The border is controlled by the Feds.
--
All the TX border sheriffs have signed coop agreements with ICE.
Many of them are Dems.
Who endorsed Abbott and/or Paxton.

Unfortunately, the 287g agreement can be terminated at will.
And the AG--now a Dem--is the only entity that can enforce SB 8 that required them to sign it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (Cw3N8)

179 167 IIRC, it was the Ford Lightning."

Not hybrid...
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (pfXMo)

I don't know then. I'm lucky I know what I did last week, let alone my neighbor years ago.

One of my old bosses had a hound she named Lightning. Laziest dog alive.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (QaH55)

180 All Amazon local delivery trucks I see around me are electric now"

The ones from our neighborhood center are, but the longer range ones are gas...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (pfXMo)

181 >> Is electric taxi a good business model? The whole reason Uber exploded is the taxi monopoly were gouging people and the taxi companies have been pushing back in a bunch of big cities

I think that's one market they do make sense, taxi fleets in big cities. The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night.



Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (viF8m)

182 And go where? /i]

French Guyana. France already has a rocket launch facility there. Make France an offer they can't refuse. Hell, he could probably buy the whole country now.


Yeah, it's not as nice as you think.

Posted by: Papillon at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (Riz8t)

183 Thx Buck
Gee I just saw my first Cybertruck in my city last week. Always get a kick out of seeing high end things like that, Porsche, Ferrari's or Lamborghini around this area. Potholes and winter don't play well with such vehicles

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (FroOw)

184 Scott Galloway is the dumbest academic I've seen something from.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e

He's taking a dump on his laptop to own you and your pixels right now. Pray he does not dump harder.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (HFrEr)
---
No, the dump is mainly a marketing ploy. Like when he's selling a car.

Genius!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (Fi81e)

185 One of my last trips I had just over 100 mile range left (my ICE car has about 400 mile range overall) when I saw a gas station. I decided not to pull in because it was on the wrong side of the road and I'd have plenty of time to fill up.

The next gas station was....80 miles further down the road.

Once you get out into the sticks the world is a different place. Didn't see an EV chargers in the last half of that trip either

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (sKqQm)

186 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)


I never hear the Greenies complain about the building-sized flatscreen TVs bright enough to see for miles in broad daylight that they use for billboards nowadays, either.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (Hgt7l)

187 Cyber trucks have grown on me. I kinda like the futuristic Mars vehicle look.

There’s a barney purple one down the street from me.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (R+jVn)

188 It's strange that there is nowhere you can go where the money is not debauched, government debt is not gobbling up private sector productivity gains and individual rights are not eroding. It's like we already have one world government. Even Switzerland is being dragged into alignment with Ursula von der Leyen and the EU.

Maybe China?

Posted by: Oglebay at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (2ap+5)

189 I never hear the Greenies complain about the building-sized flatscreen TVs bright enough to see for miles in broad daylight that they use for billboards nowadays, either.

Of course those same greenies usually have a couple of giant flatscreens at home themselves...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (sKqQm)

190
I've seen EV users argue long distance driving isn't a big deal because of course you can wait a few hours at a road stop to recharge wherever and whenever you want to go

Posted by: 18-1

==================

Tsshh. We had some socially attuned visitors from the UK who earth-awarely rented an EV to drive around SoCal. They had to spend precious hours on beautiful sunny days idling on inland blacktop lots charging their stupid car. They regretted it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (XJ22o)

191 On the topic of Tesla, I have seen multiple bumper stickers denouncing Elon as if to assure other people that they are the good ones.

Kind of like smearing the blood of a lamb on your threshold so the Angel of Woke passes over you.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (RjOoY)

192 I see several of them every time I go out here in smooth, sunny SoCal. Like, what was your need?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (XJ22o)

What was the need for the Plymouth Superbird? They sold enough of them to homologate them for NASCAR racing. Could have sold a lot more.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (yky4J)

193 Most ev owners charge at home. Thats the selling point. For someone who has a 10-15 mile commute to work - which the typical driver - they’d literally never have to use a charging station.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (JQfkC)

194 Galloway: Between suggesting that there are laws for treason to a country called "The West" to taking a dump in a car before you sell it, can this guy say something that doesn't sound dumb?

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (Fi81e)

195 176 Ha!

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Jr5Lq)

196 >>> Julius was a committed communist from an early age, and Ethel was a hard-core socialist. In my book, that makes them anti-Semites!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (k5CNB)

For sure.

I thought the miniseries Angels in America was meh at best, but Meryl Streep's portrayal of Ethel was beyond insufferable. She played smug commie very well...hardly an acting stretch.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Toos7)

197 https://reotrucks.com/
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (2Ez/1)

My Tucker Torpedo will be delivered any day now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:49 AM (yky4J)

198 I know this is unoriginal but the cybertruck looks to me like it's straight out of the Twisted Metal series on ps1.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 11:49 AM (RZ+Ww)

199 I thought the miniseries Angels in America was meh at best, but Meryl Streep's portrayal of Ethel was beyond insufferable. She played smug commie very well...hardly an acting stretch.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Toos7)
---
Harvey Weinstein was/is her hero.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (Fi81e)

200 Another note on Hispanics:
Why is Javier Mille and Bukele so popular in South America?They are selling what Democrats can't and Republicans won't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

So what is it they are selling?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (3AwA+)

201 I don't see a mass market for anything right now. Except for debt.

Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (En+fz)

202 175 Didn't all the TX border counties going blue usher in a Dem president in 2028 more than likely? Do they remember all the illegals pouring into their counties? Apparently gas is too high.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:43 AM (enNUy

Hard to say.

If the GOP had turned up at presidential election levels or near them like the Dems did, the GOP would have won the midterms in TX.

Can Dems manage increased turnout two elections in a row? Lots of variables there.

Can the GOP get its act together and get out the vote better than usual?

Personally, I've seen too many "the emerging (insert party here)" stories after prior elections.

Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think 2028 is likely to be decided somewhere other than TX.

We don't even know what terrible presidential options will be on the table yet.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (HFrEr)

203
What was the need for the Plymouth Superbird? They sold enough of them to homologate them for NASCAR racing. Could have sold a lot more.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

===============

You've got a point. It's not always about need. In fact when it comes to fashion, close to never.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (XJ22o)

204 My brother once met Meryl Streep. He said she was very nice in person.

But her politics stink.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (77rzZ)

205
We need to bring back taxis that are distinctly iconic, like the big yellow taxis of the 70s but cooler. Maybe he will be inspired by the taxis in Fifth Element.
Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Toos7)



Which were based on comics from Moebius via Heavy Metal. In any case, the only French contribution to Western Civilization in the past 200+ years that's been worth a damn.

Other than overpriced wine, weird but delicious food, Sophie Marceau and Catherine Deneuve, of course.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (iqcvy)

206 Meryl Streep played a perfect Hillary Clinton in "The Giver".

Probably didn't realize she was doing it

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:52 AM (sKqQm)

207 Secretary Pete is in town at the Naval War College and smacking the civilian teach corps upside the head for trying to ignore his orders and insert liberal policy instead of his.

I expect same rage tweeting from Tom Nichols, The Expert, to commence soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:52 AM (viF8m)

208 Tesla pickups? I'm not going to pay that much for something that looks like a pile of junk metal. A pile of junk metal that could catch fire too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 09, 2026 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)

209 The next gas station was....80 miles further down the road.

Once you get out into the sticks the world is a different place. Didn't see an EV chargers in the last half of that trip either
Posted by: 18-1


Only 730 miles to go! You can hold it!

Posted by: Buc-ee's

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:54 AM (dylrg)

210 Other than overpriced wine, weird but delicious food, Sophie Marceau and Catherine Deneuve, of course.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Brigitte Bardot, Claudia Cardinale, Juliet Binoche, Mathilda May...

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:54 AM (77rzZ)

211 We like to joke about the obvious mental illness of people like Galloway, but now I am starting to think we need to more actively shame them, even drive them from public life.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 11:54 AM (oe+PA)

212
I think that's one market they do make sense, taxi fleets in big cities. The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night.

The electric forklift model.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (Cqx++)

213 Took an uber to the airport: $45. On my return took a yellow cab same route back: $135.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (enNUy)

214 bear w/a.b., of course hope you're right about TX in next presidential cycle. Obviously if TX becomes a "battleground" to any extent the electoral map instantly becomes much more challenging.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (U/Byj)

215 For those who didn't see this on the ONT:

DeSantis continues to show he is politically astute.

https://tinyurl.com/ys9y22ac

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (Riz8t)

216 "As a percentage of the light vehicle marketplace, it’s not a huge niche, but it still represents a lot of car buyers, and Tesla dominates it."

The best-selling EV brand in the world isn't Tesla. It's the Chinese company BYD. And it's not even close. And this despite BYD not selling anything in the yuge American market.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

217 After WW 2 me 'ol man remained in the Navy on submarines. While in Key West, he and a few buddies took the electric motors from a couple of torpedoes and, after pulling the engine from an old Model T, put in the electric ones. He said they could get about a hundred miles on a charge. Great fun!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2026 11:56 AM (2WIwB)

218 The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night."

'cause no one ever uses a taxi at night...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:56 AM (pfXMo)

219 I think that's one market they do make sense, taxi fleets in big cities. The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night.



Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (viF8m)

Electric fleet vehicles, like taxis and delivery vans, would benefit greatly from having swappable battery packs. Drive into the depot, chunk, chunk, the depleted battery is slid out and a fully-charged one is slid in. Faster than the driver could snag a cup of coffee.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:57 AM (yky4J)

220 Here is the speciation.that you have to beat.

Pull 2tons on a trailer, one ton in the bed at 70 mph for 500 miles then be refueled and back on the road in 20 minutes or less

Posted by: Kittens! at November 09, 2026 11:57 AM (LOZbR)

221 There's so much rot to clean up, service academies and war colleges of course included. Two more years. If there isn't a GOP prez in 2029, the most animated apocalyptic forecasts of "doom" may prove reasonable.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (U/Byj)

222 I don't see a mass market for anything right now. Except for debt.
Posted by: Case
---------
Historically, it has been a growth market.

Posted by: scampydog at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (2bFN5)

223 >>'cause no one ever uses a taxi at night...

Yes, I was being simplistic, obviously. Split the fleet around usage time.

Not difficult.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (viF8m)

224 LOL.
I'll take one of those flying cars though!

Posted by: Esperman at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (rYCo6)

225 Whistlin Diesel did a video showing how bad the tow package was, literally not connected to the frame at all and could pull out very easily. The truck was all style but none of the toughness a used truck already had.

Posted by: Drunken Yoda at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (YjktB)

226 After WW 2 me 'ol man remained in the Navy on submarines. While in Key West, he and a few buddies took the electric motors from a couple of torpedoes and, after pulling the engine from an old Model T, put in the electric ones. He said they could get about a hundred miles on a charge. Great fun!
Posted by: Diogenes


As long as they didn't hit something. (Boom)

(I know. I know. Cheap joke)

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (dylrg)

227 Another note on Hispanics:
Why is Javier Mille and Bukele so popular in South America?They are selling what Democrats can't and Republicans won't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

So what is it they are selling?
--
Cut corruption.
Protect the people, not the criminals.
Increase freedom.

But what I also mean is, they are selling their message to people far more down the road and far more used to socialism.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (Cw3N8)

228 >>@visegrad24
BREAKING:

>>France’s intelligence agencies have discovered that Iran was behind the cyberattacks against French grocery stores during which freezers and fridges had their temperatures increased up to 50C.

>>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (viF8m)

229 And go where?


JOB OPENINGS: NASA Is Looking for Astronauts to Live and Work on the Moon.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4n4czr

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)

230 It's the Chinese company BYD."

In markets mandating EVs...

Oh, wait. Did I say "mandate"? How gauche of me. There's no mandates. At all.

Just common sense regulation of fossile fuel burning, oil consuming, unnecessary vehicles. Otherwise known as "the nudge"

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:00 PM (pfXMo)

231 >>France’s intelligence agencies have discovered that Iran was behind the cyberattacks against French grocery stores during which freezers and fridges had their temperatures increased up to 50C.

>>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (viF8m)
----
Hopefully something stronger than, "Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (s2iZv)

232 If a Dem wins in ‘28 and have a solid majority in the house and senate it’s over.

They’ll pack the courts, make pr and dc states, nationalize health care. It truly will be the end of America.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (JQfkC)

233 Split the fleet around usage time."

So, 1/3 more "fleet" required?

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (pfXMo)

234
Harvey Weinstein was/is her hero.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (Fi81e)



Longtime Hollywood rumor was that both her and Judy Densch pimped out starlets and aspiring actresses to Harvey. The evidence against Streep was pretty damning, but against Densch, less so.

Always thought that Streep was a weirdo whose acting career was based on her ability with accents (I used to call her "Rich Little with tits")

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (iqcvy)

235 200 Another note on Hispanics:
Why is Javier Mille and Bukele so popular in South America?They are selling what Democrats can't and Republicans won't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

So what is it they are selling?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (3AwA+)

Milei was only possible after a serious fiscal crisis and hyperinflation and his political position isn't that strong. Argentina is also a lot less Hispanic than most of latin america.

Bukele isn't actually that right wing and is popular for dealing with a massive crime/gang problem.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (okun6)

236 Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (JQfkC)

237 There's so much rot to clean up, service academies and war colleges of course included. Two more years. If there isn't a GOP prez in 2029, the most animated apocalyptic forecasts of "doom" may prove reasonable.
Posted by: rhomboid


I honestly fear we have crossed the Rubicon. Anything after 2026 will be too late.
We've already passed Let It Burn.
Now it's Make It Burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:02 PM (dylrg)

238 @228 uh-oh the French are going to fart in the Iranians general direction

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 12:02 PM (FroOw)

239 would benefit greatly from having swappable battery packs."

That's one of those genuinely good ideas that run headfirst into reality.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (pfXMo)

240 >>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it

They will fart in Iran's general direction.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (vTZFs)

241 America ended in March of 2008 when we knew the choice would be McCain, Hillary, or Obama. And honestly before that because the other choice was Romney. That was America's four choices. What does that tell you about our "movement".

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (RZ+Ww)

242 >>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM


Sure, Jean...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (bFu5X)

243 would benefit greatly from having swappable battery packs."

That's one of those genuinely good ideas that run headfirst into reality.
Posted by: man


I'm so old, I remember when cell phones had that capability.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (dylrg)

244 So France is going to fart in Iran's general direction?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (sKqQm)

245
Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

=================

One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

246 There's just no reason for the Cybertruck to ever have existed.

It's not really a pickup truck. The bed sucks and you can't really put much back there.
It's uglier than my dog's butthole.
It's heavy as hell and handles like an APC.
The interior is of poor quality.
It makes the driver look like a dumbass with poor taste
Have I mentioned how fuckin' ugly the damn thing is?
Expensive
All the drawbacks of an EV
Uglier than sin.

Posted by: ballistic at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (oqH4h)

247 We are already on fire.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (enNUy)

248
I'm so old, I remember when cell phones had that capability.


We lost that for the waterproof feature.

I've never flood my phone but I have had to get a new phone because the battery is dying.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (sKqQm)

249 We will unleash wave after wave of mimes!

Posted by: Jean-Noël Barrot at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (+IsEU)

250 We shall tell Iran this is unacceptable. And if they do it again we shall tell them again but next time even louder with several frown faces.
- France

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (JQfkC)

251 245
Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

=================

One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

Weak and easy to pressure. No risk of reprisal.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (okun6)

252 Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM

Sure, Jean...


I guess Iran has solved every other problem since they're now focused on denying Parisians their Foie gras.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

253 Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?"

Mo'hammed ain't doing the menial labor of checking operations...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:06 PM (pfXMo)

254 The Dems in the next two years are going to be a violent, nasty trainwreck. The DSA and further left types are already fighting against Schumer and Jefferies as leaders and they aren't the types to take maneuvering against them peacefully. The old Dem coalition is fractured and the different factions are already at odds. Cool

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 12:06 PM (FroOw)

255 Everyone who drive a Cybertruck was beta testing a vehicle for eventual use on Mars.

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (gw3RI)

256
If a Dem wins in ‘28 and have a solid majority in the house and senate it’s over.

They’ll pack the courts, make pr and dc states, nationalize health care. It truly will be the end of America.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

===================

Probably not supposed to mention the "CW" words around here, but I wonder...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (XJ22o)

257 >>One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

It wasn't just France, it was a number of EU countries.

The same ones where the "students" are rioting for better pens and pencils.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (viF8m)

258 We shall tell Iran this is unacceptable. And if they do it again we shall tell them again but next time even louder with several frown faces.
- France


And if even that doesn't work, we'll lock them in an invisible box.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (Riz8t)

259 That's one of those genuinely good ideas that run headfirst into reality.
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (pfXMo)

I know it would be a tough sell for privately-owned cars, but it ought to be perfectly practical for fleets of many like vehicles, like Amazon's delivery vans.

Current model: vehicle is unavailable for use for the hours it takes to charge the battery.

Swappable batteries: vehicle is available for use nearly 24/7.

Gas-powered taxis: vehicle is available for use nearly 24/7.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (yky4J)

260 I'm so old, I remember when cell phones had that capability."

Mine had a backup battery case that held nearly a dozen AA batteries...

Would get a solid 10 minutes use...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (pfXMo)

261 Didn't our military base freezers get hacked?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:08 PM (enNUy)

262 We lost that for the waterproof feature.

I've never flood my phone but I have had to get a new phone because the battery is dying.


There's data indicating that people, especially those of the OEM-equipped boobs persuasion, drop their phones in the toilet like 3 times a week. That's basically the entire reason phones had to become waterproof.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:09 PM (2ocoG)

263 but it ought to be perfectly practical for fleets of many like vehicles, like Amazon's delivery vans"

Sure, but that would require nearly a data centers' worth of infrastructure.
Just picture ... about a thousand giant battery packs, each weighing a ton or so, all charging...

The effort to stage that would be... a lot.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (pfXMo)

264 There are otter boxes that are water proof, right?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (enNUy)

265 Probably not supposed to mention the "CW" words around here, but I wonder...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

I'm starting to think Lincoln should've let the South go. Would've let the Dems have their own country, and gotten them out of the USA.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (77rzZ)

266 We will unleash wave after wave of mimes!
Posted by: Jean-No�l Barrot at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM


With silencers.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (bFu5X)

267 There's a joke in there somewhere

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (enNUy)

268 New one:

Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (Riz8t)

269 There's data indicating that people, especially those of the OEM-equipped boobs persuasion, drop their phones in the toilet like 3 times a week. That's basically the entire reason phones had to become waterproof.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:09 PM (2ocoG)

That, and the underwater basket weavers needing to get patterns off the INternet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (yky4J)

270 One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

Weak and easy to pressure. No risk of reprisal.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Yep. Because they can.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (SN8r1)

271 America ended in March of 2008 when we knew the choice would be McCain, Hillary, or Obama. And honestly before that because the other choice was Romney. That was America's four choices. What does that tell you about our "movement".
--
"My friends, you have noting to fear from an Obama Presidency."

1) Romney would have said the same thing.
2) No Democrat would ever say the same thing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (Cw3N8)

272 Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

Make a shitload of money.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (BI5O2)

273 Claudia Cardinale was Italian.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (wGerL)

274 Nood

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (enNUy)

275 We lost that for the waterproof feature.

I've never flood my phone but I have had to get a new phone because the battery is dying.
Posted by: 18-1



I've done both. And no, an iPhone 3 wasn't waterproof.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (dylrg)

276
As long as they didn't hit something. (Boom)

(I know. I know. Cheap joke)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (dylrg)





Depends. If they pulled parts from an early to mid war Mark 14 torp it'd be Clank instead of Boom.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iqcvy)

277 Sure, but that would require nearly a data centers' worth of infrastructure.
Just picture ... about a thousand giant battery packs, each weighing a ton or so, all charging...

The effort to stage that would be... a lot.
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (pfXMo)

And how much infrastructure do you need to charge a hundred Amazon delivery vans overnight at a "fullfillment center"? About the same, if not more. The battery packs could be racked eight high, and handled by forklifts, powered by the same type of battery.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (yky4J)

278 The Dems in the next two years are going to be a violent, nasty trainwreck. The DSA and further left types are already fighting against Schumer and Jefferies as leaders and they aren't the types to take maneuvering against them peacefully. The old Dem coalition is fractured and the different factions are already at odds. Cool
---
One of the reasons Satan and his demons never prevail long-term is they are all a pack of snarling, rabid monsters that hate each other just as much as you or I.

And, yes, their followers on Earth are the same.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (Cw3N8)

279
Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

Make a shitload of money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (BI5O2)




Good luck getting your Toyota Hilux, peon.

-The Chicken Tax-

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (iqcvy)

280 272 Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

Make a shitload of money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM

Yoo-hoo!

Posted by: Toyota Hilux at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (2Ez/1)

281 Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform
Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (Riz8t)


On election night he gave a quick phone interview to Politico. He was asked would he do a deal with democrats on immigration. He said we’ll see.

I guess we’re seeing now. The answer is yes.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (JQfkC)

282 >>>Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

the very online always say they want this

extensive market research says very very few people actually would buy this

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (gw3RI)

283 Yeah it’s not like Elon can just move to a new state tomorrow. He’s made a lot of investments in Texas and you can’t just pack up a factory and move it in a week.

I think he’s stuck there for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (JQfkC)

Wanna bet?

Posted by: Elon The Great at November 09, 2026 12:27 PM (hmYU4)

284 EV pickup trucks were an IQ test. Anyone who bought one failed.

If you needed a real work truck, you should be smart enough to know that you didn't buy one of these virtue-signalling things.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at November 09, 2026 01:11 PM (yBf+U)

285 I never even thought of a Cybertruck as a pickup truck.

Posted by: MikeN at November 09, 2026 01:27 PM (s2VfL)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

Meissonier Book.jpg

Young Man with a Book
Ernest Meissonier

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




Comments

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1 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 09:36 AM (SN8r1)

2 yow!

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 09:36 AM (Bep7s)

3 Must be a boring book.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 09:37 AM (2Drhq)

4 Always wondered how those hats stayed on their heads, CBD. They are kite shaped.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:37 AM (Gqar8)

5 He should open it and see what's in it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 09:38 AM (RORbl)

6 Painting has some damage.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 09:38 AM (SN8r1)

7 Dash my lace...shirtcuffs.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 09:38 AM (2Drhq)

8 The young man was angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at November 09, 2026 09:39 AM (2Ez/1)

9 That's not a book. It's a squeezebox! Some kind of covert concertina. I hate those things.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:39 AM (Jr5Lq)

10 How very nice!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 09:39 AM (JrHfD)

11 Title checks out.

Posted by: Person who checks out titles at November 09, 2026 09:39 AM (2Ez/1)

12 The book must be boring. I think he's fallen asleep.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 09:40 AM (wzaBj)

13 Must not be a very good book.

He looks like he's about ready to fall asleep on that bench.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2026 09:41 AM (s2iZv)

14 Must be philosophy, he is in deeeeep thought.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (rOKnE)

15 Young Man with a Book


"Fun with Puns"

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (dylrg)

16 Looks like he's about to fall over.
Would hang, after cleaning
Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (FroOw)

17 Alternate title:

"Caleb Is Excited to Read the New Biography,

"The Life and Accomplishments of John Thune"

Only to Find That It Has One Page of Writing and the Rest of the Pages Are Filled With Kitty Cat Pictures Drawn In Crayon"

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (YSUhf)

18 Kind of interesting: Nobody called them "tricorn(e)" hats until long after they had gone out of fashion. In their own time they were called "cocked" hats.



Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (2Drhq)

19 Thanks CBD. Good morning Horde. Pray, hope, don't worry, buy ammo and have a plan.

Posted by: Buck (Ofama) at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (hXmGs)

20 He's only got an hour until the test! Why, oh why didn't he read the book ahead of time?

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (CU8o1)

21 The school he attends has a mandatory summer reading list.
He's halfway through Pride And Prejudice.
It's killing him.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (2Ez/1)

22 I'm about to fall asleep also looking at the painting.

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (OXhw3)

23 The painter obviously had a wry sense of humor.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:43 AM (Fi81e)

24 What's a book?

Posted by: A young man at November 09, 2026 09:43 AM (MWfyi)

25 He's just looking for the sexy parts.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 09:44 AM (77rzZ)

26 Kind of interesting: Nobody called them "tricorn(e)" hats until long after they had gone out of fashion. In their own time they were called "cocked" hats.

Posted by: Delurker



Trying to come up with something clean.
Got nothing.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:44 AM (dylrg)

27 stromboli, panzerotti or calzone?

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 09:44 AM (Bep7s)

28
*sings*

My hat is has three corners
Three Corners has my hat
And if it didn't have three corners
I would not be my hat

*jazz hands*

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:44 AM (YSUhf)

29 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:44 AM (QX6xo)

30 That doesn't look like a happy little bush next to him.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (ViCCR)

31 Sleeping right after cramming is supposed to be a positive thing though. The faster you get in to REM, the faster your short term gets dumped to long term. IIRC.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (Fi81e)

32 Young man agreed to participate in his beloved's book club only to discover this month's pick was something referred to as "romatasy." There's only so many times a man can read a detailed description of the magical fairy-elf's marble-like muscles as he -- oh forget this!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (rOKnE)

33 The book is about the history of glue.
He can't put it down.

Posted by: Oh, no... at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (2Ez/1)

34
No dog. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (eRlcH)

35 PILGRIM!!!!!!!

STOLEN LAND!!!!

HE MUST BE KILLED BEFORE HE COMMITS GENOCIDE!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (QX6xo)

36 Oh wow, getting spammed up with fundraising texts from NRSC and other grifters this morning.

Oh, hi guys, where the fvck were you the last year? You get blown out and try to use that as a fundraising op?

Welcome to the party, pal. Now fuck off.

Posted by: McLurkerson at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (AZDyS)

37 It's a better painting if it was titled ' Young Man at the Bus Stop Going to a Costume Party'

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (OXhw3)

38 Hey, I've read that first page before!

Posted by: LeBron James at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (bkqk1)

39 Sorry. I don't know what came over me. It must be the Talarico Virus spreading in Texas..........


That is a silly hat, tho.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:46 AM (QX6xo)

40 34 Ha!

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:46 AM (Jr5Lq)

41 That doesn't look like a happy little bush next to him.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (ViCCR)
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That's a smudge, so ....

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:46 AM (Fi81e)

42 Posted by: Paul at November 09, 2026 09:37 AM (w0bbt)


You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at November 09, 2026 09:46 AM (QX6xo)

43 Obviously there are no pictures in his book.

Sad.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 09:46 AM (RORbl)

44 Caption:

"Apes Crunching Figs....What the hell!!!!"


Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:47 AM (YSUhf)

45 He's waiting on Tricorn Hat Girl to stroll on by.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Ars Gratia Artis at November 09, 2026 09:47 AM (wVcYX)

46 It's a book about procrastination.
He'll start it tomorrow.

Posted by: Groan at November 09, 2026 09:47 AM (2Ez/1)

47 Can we please observe the 100-comment rule and lay off politics for a little while? We all need to take a break from that crap.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 09:47 AM (77rzZ)

48 The book is about the history of glue.
He can't put it down.
Posted by: Oh, no... at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (2Ez/1)



*SSSNNNNNNIIIIIIFFFFFFFFF*

Posted by: Steve McCroskey at November 09, 2026 09:48 AM (QX6xo)

49
And I Ain't Never Caught a Rabbit - a limerick

There once was a young man named Lance
Who launched into one of his rants
"I swear, my good sir
I am just like a cur
'Cause my breathing it comes in short pants!"

Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 09:49 AM (qgHp7)

50 PILGRIM!!!!!!!

STOLEN LAND!!!!

HE MUST BE KILLED BEFORE HE COMMITS GENOCIDE!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (QX6xo)
---
All for the Affordability of it.


How can we afford not bringing back "Madame Guillotine"??

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:49 AM (Fi81e)

51 There once was a young man named Lance
Who launched into one of his rants
"I swear, my good sir
I am just like a cur
'Cause my breathing it comes in short pants!"
Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 09:49 AM (qgHp7)



Short pants? Will that qualify for access to the Sunday Book Thread?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:50 AM (QX6xo)

52 Join a book club, they said.
It'll be fun, they said.

Posted by: Bored young man at November 09, 2026 09:50 AM (2Ez/1)

53 He needs a feather stuck in his cap.

Posted by: Yankee Doodle Dandy at November 09, 2026 09:50 AM (wVcYX)

54
The book is about the history of glue.
He can't put it down.
Posted by: Oh, no... at November 09, 2026 09:45 AM (2Ez/1)
\

Worse, he can't hear them paging him for a phone call!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:50 AM (YSUhf)

55 'Tis a trigonometry text:

#17- "Calculate the hypotenuse of your hat."

Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (qgHp7)

56 There once was a young man named Lance
Who launched into one of his rants
"I swear, my good sir
I am just like a cur
'Cause my breathing it comes in short pants!"
Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 09:49 AM (qgHp7)


Short pants? Will that qualify for access to the Sunday Book Thread?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer



No need!!! Bwahahahahahahaha!!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (dylrg)

57 I've said it before but at that time, who would buy this from the artist? Rich guy who had a library in his home ?

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (OXhw3)

58 It's def a challenge to read a book when you have no face.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (Jr5Lq)

59
Well, people were bound to start book punning.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (YSUhf)

60 'Tis a trigonometry text:

#17- "Calculate the hypotenuse of your hat."
Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (qgHp7)



I study triggernometry!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:52 AM (QX6xo)

61 Corresponding sides of congruent hats are congruent.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 09:52 AM (2Drhq)

62 Book titled”Living in Libtardia”

Chapter one
Practical Applications for living with Progtards.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 09:52 AM (rs0j7)

63 I think he's showing the contents of the book to his groin.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:52 AM (Jr5Lq)

64
No need!!! Bwahahahahahahaha!!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (dylrg)



Braggart........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:52 AM (QX6xo)

65 53 mmm... book club.
https://tinyurl.com/mraxamk6

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 09:53 AM (Bep7s)

66 Maybe the book is Fanny Hill.

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 09:53 AM (OXhw3)

67 60
Well, people were bound to start book punning.


Author people can do that. Not me.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 09:53 AM (2Drhq)

68 It's def a challenge to read a book when you have no face.
Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (Jr5Lq)



What about the eyes?

Posted by: Billy Idol at November 09, 2026 09:53 AM (QX6xo)

69 Hexacorne is 2x > Tricorne.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:53 AM (Jr5Lq)

70 I think he's showing the contents of the book to his groin.
Posted by: gp



That's not how skin mags work.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:54 AM (dylrg)

71 It's def a challenge to read a book when you have no face.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (Jr5Lq)



What if you have a face without an eye?

Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at November 09, 2026 09:54 AM (QX6xo)

72 It's a book about reverse psychology.
His friend told him not to read it.

Posted by: Make it stop... at November 09, 2026 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)

73 Octocorne > Hexacorne > Pentacorne > Tricorne

Posted by: Count de Monet, Ars Gratia Artis at November 09, 2026 09:55 AM (wVcYX)

74 Octocorne > Hexacorne > Pentacorne > Tricorne
Posted by: Count de Monet, Ars Gratia Artis at November 09, 2026 09:55 AM (wVcYX)



Lena Horne >

Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at November 09, 2026 09:55 AM (QX6xo)

75 Well, people were bound to start book punning.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:51 AM (YSUhf)
---
It's not binding.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:55 AM (Fi81e)

76 Shyte......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:55 AM (QX6xo)

77 Young Man with a Book...

...and a tri-corner hat
...and a cloak
...and a bench
...and a flower pot
...and a sweet pair of knickers
...and a cloak
...and fine leather shoes

Do I nneed to go on?

Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 09:56 AM (qgHp7)

78 "Young man with a book."

It's either a young conservative with Atlas Shrugged or a 30 year old lib with a well-worn copy of Harry Potter.

I'm going with young conservative, and he's just dreading opening it again, knowing how dystopia his future is shaping up.

Posted by: red speck at November 09, 2026 09:56 AM (Ve/HL)

79 It's an eazzzzzzzzzzy read.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:56 AM (Fi81e)

80 Fanny Hill of course is considered the first published 'porn' literature. Mid 1700's iirc.

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 09:56 AM (OXhw3)

81 Perfect... No controversy.. Just what I need

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:56 AM (+gK6I)

82 I stopped reading at "Spotted Dick".

Posted by: A young man at November 09, 2026 09:56 AM (MWfyi)

83 Tome, book puns are pretty inoffensive.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

84
If you're allergic to Dodecacorne, don't take Dodecacorne.

Talk to your physician about eating your hat.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM (BI5O2)

85 Yay! I managed to wear matching shoes today!


Winning

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM (Dnq7b)

86 Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:56 AM (+gK6I)


You should removed the text in the URL: field when you post.......That's quite the link.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:58 AM (QX6xo)

87 At harvest day, the men celebrated by joyously detonating their popcorne hats.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:58 AM (Jr5Lq)

88 Tome, book puns are pretty inoffensive.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

(Jump to top of page)
---
They cover a wide range.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:58 AM (Fi81e)

89 Letters to Penthouse forum...

Posted by: The early years at November 09, 2026 09:58 AM (2Ez/1)

90 Yay! I managed to wear matching shoes today!


Winning

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM (Dnq7b)



Sometimes, it's the little things.

I try to convince the wife all the time.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 09:58 AM (QX6xo)

91 Takes a lot of spine to do book puns.

Posted by: Oof at November 09, 2026 09:59 AM (2Ez/1)

92 Tome, book puns are pretty inoffensive.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

I note that.

Posted by: Cliff at November 09, 2026 09:59 AM (OXhw3)

93 Let's do book puns , that's a novel idea. /s

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 10:01 AM (OXhw3)

94 Just as we have bathroom books, they had outhouse books. That looks like one of them.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:01 AM (Jr5Lq)

95 Yay! I managed to wear matching shoes today!


Winning

Posted by: nurse ratched.

https://tinyurl.com/2jbed462

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:01 AM (ndZc7)

96 I think he's showing the contents of the book to his groin.

Posted by: gp



"Look here. She her beautiful breasts. And her smooth, round buttocks- That's what you're supposed to be excited about.

Stop getting erect at turtles!!!"


Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (YSUhf)

97 Takes a lot of spine to do book puns.
Posted by: Oof


It's a cheap cover for fish puns.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (dylrg)

98 Just as we have bathroom books, they had outhouse books. That looks like one of them.
Posted by: gp

I think reading on the toilet is disgusting. Very unsanitary.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

99 willowed from Morning Report -
287 Sitting at the kitchen table finishing my coffee. I wonder how many laws I've already broken today?
Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2026 09:59 AM

Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (LHPAg)

100 Fanny Hill: Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure (174

Morning Glory Milking Farm (2021)

273 years of literary refinement and progress!

Posted by: Count de Monet, Ars Gratia Artis at November 09, 2026 10:03 AM (wVcYX)

101 Takes a lot of spine to do book puns.
Posted by: Oof at November 09, 2026 09:59 AM (2Ez/1)
---
Well, there is some margin, there.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 10:03 AM (Fi81e)

102 Yay! I managed to wear matching shoes today!


Winning
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM (Dnq7b)

The weekend before Halloween, I was in a huge hurry to get out the door and meet my brother and his daughter at this cave where they do a haunted house.

I told my daughter to go find her own shoes and put them on, because I didn't have time.

As I was sitting in the interminable line of traffic to get in, I finally noticed that she was wearing two different shoes. And they weren't even close. One was a tennis shoe, and the other was a paw patrol slipper with little ears hanging off it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 10:03 AM (BI5O2)

103 Yay! I managed to wear matching shoes today!


Winning

Posted by: nurse ratched.


You have no idea how scary that actually is.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 10:03 AM (dylrg)

104 He feels guilty because it's overdue at the New York Public Library. Lieutenant Bookman is just out of frame.

Posted by: Listen, Joyboy... at November 09, 2026 10:03 AM (2Ez/1)

105 Nurse, you have shoes? Lucky!
Missed you at MOME.

Posted by: JSpicy at November 09, 2026 10:04 AM (PTJ94)

106 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bCe-uT6wVQ&pp

Ned Beatty

Posted by: Kittens! at November 09, 2026 10:04 AM (LOZbR)

107
"Look here. She her beautiful breasts. And her smooth, round buttocks- That's what you're supposed to be excited about.

Stop getting erect at turtles!!!"


Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (YSUhf)




Is this a quote from one of Stacy Abrams' romance novels?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 09, 2026 10:05 AM (QX6xo)

108 Wearing matching shoes is an accomplishment relative to how many pairs you own.

If you only have 3, it's not that impressive.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 10:05 AM (Fi81e)

109 Lame troll is lame at Aisle 3.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 10:07 AM (yky4J)

110 He's upset because he can't return the book.
He took it into the outhouse and now it's been flagged.

Posted by: Brentano's at November 09, 2026 10:07 AM (2Ez/1)

111 Business adjusts to the new reality.

https://tinyurl.com/95bx7ume

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:08 AM (ndZc7)

112

Nvidia's CEO is named Huang,
Who got in big trouble with his wang,
He's a maker of chips,
And his mind really flips,
For that sweet, honeypot pootang.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 10:08 AM (SN8r1)

113 "How To Pick Up Girls"

Posted by: Count de Monet, Ars Gratia Artis at November 09, 2026 10:09 AM (wVcYX)

114 Kind of interesting: Nobody called them "tricorn(e)" hats until long after they had gone out of fashion. In their own time they were called "cocked" hats.



Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (2Drhq)

They are kind of cool, though. Would like to see them return to use.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 10:09 AM (yky4J)

115 "Nvidia's CEO is named Huang"

His gf is also named Huang. No relation. Not quite as pretty as Fang Fang, IMHO.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:10 AM (Jr5Lq)

116 They are kind of cool, though. Would like to see them return to use.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I have one, somewhere. Got it at Colonial Williamsburg.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:10 AM (77rzZ)

117 Sticking it to the Man!

Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
Scott Galloway says he owned a Tesla, but sold it because of Elon.
"Not before taking a giant dump in the passenger seat. True story."
He's gone from suggesting Elon be executed to telling stories of taking dumps in a car he owned because it was made by Elon's company.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (ndZc7)

118 We've seen at least a couple of Ernest Meissonier's historical works on the thread, they are typically realistic, dramatic, and detailed. This one is different. The details are soft, the man is relaxed not facing some battle, the light is natural and exudes soft, comfortable warmth. It is altogether pleasant and would appeal to anyone who enjoys reading while out of the house. I'm not sure if the way he is holding the book, half closed and a finger marking his place, is contemplating what he read or if he is starting to nod off in the warm sunlight. It could go either way. But the overall feeling is peaceful. I can imagine a similar scene by Carl Larsson. That's a good thing.

Posted by: JTB at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (yTvNw)

119 Yay! I managed to wear matching shoes today!


Winning
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 09:57 AM


Sometimes on a Monday morning, it's the little things.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (bFu5X)

120 As I was sitting in the interminable line of traffic to get in, I finally noticed that she was wearing two different shoes. And they weren't even close. One was a tennis shoe, and the other was a paw patrol slipper with little ears hanging off it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Aw. Maybe she did it for Halloween?

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (77rzZ)

121 "Nvidia's CEO is named Huang"

-
Is he well Huang?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:12 AM (ndZc7)

122 95 with fewer and fewer pages...

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 10:12 AM (Bep7s)

123 The fashion era of the unicorne hat faded very quickly, too rapidly for any painter to capture it, depriving future generations of uncountable laughs.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:12 AM (Jr5Lq)

124 Gonna make a big comeback.

Posted by: Coonskin Hat at November 09, 2026 10:13 AM (wVcYX)

125 99 plus, you can't return them.

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 10:13 AM (Bep7s)

126 103 "and i have a pair just like them at home!"

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 10:14 AM (Bep7s)

127 I don't know who owns Mitsubishi. Jack Mitsubishi, is my guess.

If Jack Mitsubishi pissed me off, I wouldn't sell my wife's car, even though I bought it. She'd be super pissed at me, way more than I was pissed at Jack. That thing is paid off, and low-mileage.

But if I deliberately shit in it first? Divorce. Because of the mental illness, you see.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 10:15 AM (BI5O2)

128 118 Sticking it to the Man!

Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
Scott Galloway says he owned a Tesla, but sold it because of Elon.
"Not before taking a giant dump in the passenger seat. True story."
He's gone from suggesting Elon be executed to telling stories of taking dumps in a car he owned because it was made by Elon's company.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (ndZc7)

Do like the pee-pee hookers story. But without hookers. And with poop. On his own stuff.

This is a plea for institutionalization.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 10:15 AM (HFrEr)

129 I think reading on the toilet is disgusting. Very unsanitary.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

Not really. You are sitting down doing your business and reading your book. When you are done with your business, you set the book down and get to the unsanitary cleanup. When you are done with that, you do not go back to reading the book. You get up and wash your hands. The book is never touched with unclean hands.

Posted by: No Name Today at November 09, 2026 10:18 AM (8mulE)

130 Sticking it to the Man!

Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
Scott Galloway says he owned a Tesla, but sold it because of Elon.
"Not before taking a giant dump in the passenger seat. True story."
He's gone from suggesting Elon be executed to telling stories of taking dumps in a car he owned because it was made by Elon's company.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (ndZc7)


Who exactly is this story supposed to impress?

I guess he has the Amber Heard demographic sewn up.


Democrat wins bring Democrat values.

Yay!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 10:18 AM (YSUhf)

131 105 mazin's bookstore.

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 10:19 AM (Bep7s)

132 118 Sticking it to the Man!

Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
Scott Galloway says he owned a Tesla, but sold it because of Elon.
"Not before taking a giant dump in the passenger seat. True story."
He's gone from suggesting Elon be executed to telling stories of taking dumps in a car he owned because it was made by Elon's company.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (ndZc7)

*Makes 'call me' gesture to Scott Galloway*

Posted by: Amber Heard at November 09, 2026 10:19 AM (wVcYX)

133 Page 1! Go to page 1!!

Posted by: LeBron James, expert reader at November 09, 2026 10:19 AM (xg/DD)

134 Scott Galloway says he owned a Tesla, but sold it because of Elon.
"Not before taking a giant dump in the passenger seat. True story."
He's gone from suggesting Elon be executed to telling stories of taking dumps in a car he owned because it was made by Elon's company.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 10:11 AM (ndZc7)

He probably could have gotten a better price for it, if it didn't smell like shit inside.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 10:20 AM (yky4J)

135 🚨BREAKING NEWS: Russell Brand sentenced to 10.5 years for r*pe and sexual assault.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 10:20 AM (dylrg)

136 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. A great painting for the library.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2026 10:21 AM (2WIwB)

137 The book is never touched with unclean hands.
Posted by: No Name Today

Doesn't matter. It's still in the bathroom.

I'm a germaphobe, and the bathroom is ground zero for that phobia. I never take books or food into a bathroom, even if I'm not there to poop.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:21 AM (77rzZ)

138 I don't know who owns Mitsubishi. Jack Mitsubishi, is my guess.

--------

Fred...it's Fred Mitsubishi.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 10:21 AM (XeU6L)

139 I don't know who owns Mitsubishi. Jack Mitsubishi, is my guess.

--------

Fred...it's Fred Mitsubishi.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 10:21 AM (XeU6L)

Wankers!

Posted by: Joe Isuzu at November 09, 2026 10:23 AM (wVcYX)

140 I don't know who owns Mitsubishi. Jack Mitsubishi, is my guess.

It's not Joe Isuzu. Or is it?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 10:23 AM (2GVsD)

141 I think reading on the toilet is disgusting. Very unsanitary.
Posted by: Bulg
-------

The Sears catalog was commonly read in outhouses.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 10:24 AM (XeU6L)

142 140, 141

Hordemind...beautiful and terrible.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 10:24 AM (bFu5X)

143 Advanced Geometry Book puns:

#18- Calculate the volume of a volume...

Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 10:24 AM (qgHp7)

144 Looks like the great tech crash of 2026 was a bit premature.

Investors know Dems can be bought off and AI will be fine.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:24 AM (JQfkC)

145 I'm a germaphobe, and the bathroom is ground zero for that phobia. I never take books or food into a bathroom, even if I'm not there to poop.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:21 AM

You can wash your dishes in the shower.

https://youtu.be/NMQTg4Y0YT0

Posted by: Kramer at November 09, 2026 10:24 AM (2Ez/1)

146 Investors know Dems can be bought off and AI will be fine.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:24 AM (JQfkC)

That's comforting.

Posted by: Pete Bootygag at November 09, 2026 10:26 AM (yky4J)

147 Your phone has more germs on it than a toilet seat.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:26 AM (JQfkC)

148 A just received a Community Alert in my inbox:

A security lockdown was initiated at the White House following an incident where a vehicle struck the north end of Lafayette Park. The Secret Service detained an individual, and the area remains under investigation.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

149 119- Thanks, JTB, for your interesting and appreciative commentary on the various paintings.

I tend to like ones by this artist which have more relaxed settings, such as this one or two men talking over a meal outside at a cafe, rather than the martial ones with groups of soldiers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2026 10:27 AM (JrHfD)

150 Your phone has more germs on it than a toilet seat.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

Not butt germs, presumably.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:27 AM (77rzZ)

151 "Very unsanitary."

I thought about it, and I must concur. Now I'm worried about commenters who post while sitting on the toilet.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:27 AM (Jr5Lq)

152 Math book word problem:

A boy in a tri-corner hat is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. How does he square that circle?

Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 10:28 AM (qgHp7)

153 phone has more germs on it than a toilet seat.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

Not butt germs, presumably.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:27 AM (77rzZ)

You’d be surprised.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:28 AM (JQfkC)

154 It's not Joe Isuzu. Or is it?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 10:23 AM

Panomelli kiki bobo!

https://youtu.be/oDK8BYS2d9s

Posted by: Joe Isuzu at November 09, 2026 10:29 AM (2Ez/1)

155 A security lockdown was initiated at the White House following an incident where a vehicle struck the north end of Lafayette Park. The Secret Service detained an individual, and the area remains under investigation.
Posted by: Bulg

We'll see more of this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 10:29 AM (SN8r1)

156 I thought about it, and I must concur. Now I'm worried about commenters who post while sitting on the toilet.
Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:27 AM (Jr5Lq)

#2 cause of blown margins.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 10:30 AM (yky4J)

157 We'll see more of this.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Yep.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:30 AM (77rzZ)

158 138 corncobs creating anxiety.

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 10:30 AM (Bep7s)

159 A security lockdown was initiated at the White House

Another Democrat wanting to share their 'love'???

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 10:30 AM (2GVsD)

160 Math book word problem:

A boy in a tri-corner hat is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. How does he square that circle?
Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 10:28 AM


That's a fargin' trick question!

Posted by: Roman Moroni at November 09, 2026 10:30 AM (bFu5X)

161 I think there's going to be nothing but turmoil in the capitol city for the next several months.

God help us once January rolls around. They're already planning mass impeachments. Several of Trump's cabinet members have already been targeted.

If I were in the administration I'd tell the Socialists and Democrats to go pound sand. This is the polite version. And above all else, do not give in.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 10:34 AM (RORbl)

162 Pretty hard to sell a car with a steaming pile of shit in the front seat. So he would have had to take a shit in it and the cleaned it up himself.

So either a) he’s lying or b) he purposely took a shot in his car knowing he’d have to clean it up himself.

The dude is a lunatic either way.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:34 AM (JQfkC)

163 OK, I got rid of the cats' litter box library. They never read any of those books anyway, just clawed them up some.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:34 AM (Jr5Lq)

164 I just spent a few minutes in an odd discussion.

After the Dems announced their plans to restrict data centers tech stocks tanked but today they are back up with not updates from the Dem's legislative agenda.

So I asked an AI agent why and there was a bit of "no one believes the Dems will actually do anything, certainly not in the short term" which is reasonable but then it further extended "also inflation is probably going down because they'll move against tariffs"

And I spent too much time arguing with it because by definition tariffs as a tax cannot cause inflation. "But prices on some goods will go up with tariffs" sure but that's not inflation any more then if the government put a tax on say bread and the price of bread went up, while meanwhile increased revenues LOWER inflation since the government has to print fewer dollars.

And I ended up with the normal sort of thing you see when AI has been trained to give some lefty narrative answer. "Yes you are right taxes are inherently deflationary but the narrative says that tariffs specifically are inflationary"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 10:34 AM (sKqQm)

165 Brown's Velvet used to be a dairy in New Orleans and made great ice cream. Lemon custard was the GOAT.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2026 10:36 AM (MDua2)

166
130 I think reading on the toilet is disgusting. Very unsanitary.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

What about posting on AoSHQ while sitting on the terlitt? Not, um, that I’ve ever done that or anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 10:37 AM (dJgiD)

167 The fashion era of the unicorne hat faded very quickly, too rapidly for any painter to capture it, depriving future generations of uncountable laughs.
Posted by: gp


********

There was a haberdasher named Luntz
Made a unicorne hat, but just once
He wore it into town
And never lived it down
They all thought he was some kind of dunce

Posted by: muldoon at November 09, 2026 10:38 AM (qgHp7)

168 OK, I got rid of the cats' litter box library. They never read any of those books anyway, just clawed them up some.
Posted by: gp

No cookbooks with recipes for recipes for preparing hoomans.
-- the cats

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:38 AM (77rzZ)

169 Thanks CBD. Would hang.
Looks like he is thumbing through pages to find the centerfold. Young man indeed.

Posted by: scampydog at November 09, 2026 10:38 AM (2bFN5)

170 Young man who is realizing why those books in The Little Free Library are free.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 10:39 AM (2Ez/1)

171 Math book word problem:

A boy in a tri-corner hat is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. How does he square that circle?
Posted by: muldoon


The x-y axis of the square peg is smaller than the hypotenuse of the circle.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 10:39 AM (dylrg)

172 ""But prices on some goods will go up with tariffs" sure but that's not inflation any more then if the government put a tax on say bread and the price of bread went up"

Most people don't distinguish between price inflation and monetary inflation. It feels the same to them. And yes, tariffs are a tax on those consuming foreign goods.

In any event, the money supply is increasing:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/m1sl
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/m2sl

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:39 AM (Jr5Lq)

173 No cookbooks with recipes for recipes for preparing hoomans.
-- the cats
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:38 AM (77rzZ)

Recipes? You eat 'em rawr!

Posted by: The Tiger at November 09, 2026 10:39 AM (yky4J)

174 I argued with Ai about gop senate screwing Trump with recess appts. It just spews bullshit unless you keep asking for clarification. Totally bogus.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 10:40 AM (enNUy)

175 The data center thing has me puzzled.

sra blaster and I live in NoVa and both of our livelihoods are based in data center alley here.

I am very pro data center.

But she is not.

She is probably more conservative than I am as we measure things. But she believes all the stuff about data centers.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 09, 2026 10:40 AM (NlEaG)

176 Do like the pee-pee hookers story. But without hookers. And with poop. On his own stuff.

He Heard it through the grapevine.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2026 10:40 AM (MDua2)

177 sra blaster and I live in NoVa and both of our livelihoods are based in data center alley here.


I hate them for their ugliness.

Plus, the fact that we have so many of them close to DC makes me very suspicious of what they're being used for.

I don't care about the water and energy use stuff. I just don't trust big tech.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:43 AM (77rzZ)

178 Some of you might not understand this Memorial Day ceremony tomorrow, or even get offended, but I don't care.


Henry Wirz Memorial – Andersonville
2 PM
Visit the Civil War Village of Andersonville for the annual memorial to southern martyr and hero Capt. Henry Wirz. All SCV camps and UDC, CoC and OCR chapters are encouraged to bring a wreath to present at the monument. Guest speaker will be Julie Hardaway, former president general of United Daughters of the Confederacy. A fried chicken dinner plate will be served at noon. Artillery crews and infantry reenactors for the artillery and rifle salutes also are invited.

Posted by: A young man at November 09, 2026 10:43 AM (MWfyi)

179 damn, off sock

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:43 AM (MWfyi)

180 Most people don't distinguish between price inflation and monetary inflation. It feels the same to them. And yes, tariffs are a tax on those consuming foreign goods.

In any event, the money supply is increasing:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/m1sl
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/m2sl
Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:39 AM (Jr5Lq)

Want to tame both?

Fat chance, but reduce the size of government.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 10:44 AM (XTrBf)

181 130 I think reading on the toilet is disgusting. Very unsanitary.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:02 AM (77rzZ)

What about posting on AoSHQ while sitting on the terlitt? Not, um, that I’ve ever done that or anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 10:37 AM (dJgiD)
=====

Hold on a sec...

*flushes*

Wut?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 10:44 AM (RIvkX)

182 179 Some of you might not understand this Memorial Day ceremony tomorrow, or even get offended, but I don't care.


Henry Wirz Memorial – Andersonville
2 PM
Visit the Civil War Village of Andersonville for the annual memorial to southern martyr and hero Capt. Henry Wirz. All SCV camps and UDC, CoC and OCR chapters are encouraged to bring a wreath to present at the monument. Guest speaker will be Julie Hardaway, former president general of United Daughters of the Confederacy. A fried chicken dinner plate will be served at noon. Artillery crews and infantry reenactors for the artillery and rifle salutes also are invited.
Posted by: A young man at November 09, 2026 10:43 AM (MWfyi)

It’s May already?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 10:45 AM (XTrBf)

183 Young Man with a Book
Ernest Meissonier, 1815 - 1891

A great detail painting; very nice & so very different from a great deal of his art (Napoleonic military epics).

Today's painting was summarized by one site as: Aa small-scale, intimate genre scene typical of Meissonier's meticulous technical precision. It depicts a young man absorbed in quiet contemplation or reading, reflecting 19th-century bourgeois values centered on education, refinement, and intellectual pursuit. 🙄

Wikipedia, in part, Jean-Louis-Ernest Meissonier was a French academic painter & sculptor who became famous for his depictions of Napoleon and his military sieges and maneuvers in paintings acclaimed both for the artist's mastery of fine detail and his assiduous craftsmanship.

He also had a son, Jean Charles Meissonier
(French, 1848–1917), who was an excellent painter and, unlike his father, focused heavily on domestic and naturalistic scenes.

Interesting. Thank you.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 10:45 AM (NFX2v)

184 "reduce the size of government." Concur.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:45 AM (Jr5Lq)

185 Age of candidates played a role I think. Talarico is in his 30s. The new gov of Wisconsin is 40. Annie Andrews is 46. Abdul el Hamas is 42.

They were all running against much older Republicans opponents.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:45 AM (JQfkC)

186 Data centers are a tremendous source of tax revenue for your municipality and they can afford to fill the potholes with platinum, and every high school football field will be artificial turf.
However they really hurt nearby property values.

So the key is to have them in your town or county but live as far from them as possible.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 10:46 AM (2Ez/1)

187 My GG grandfather was held at Andersonville. We visited the site a few years ago. Interesting to walk the grounds.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 10:46 AM (enNUy)

188 She is probably more conservative than I am as we measure things. But she believes all the stuff about data centers.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 09, 2026 10:40 AM (NlEaG)

Simple enough:

Data centers used to facilitate posting cute cat videos to the Internet - good.

Data centers used for all other purposes - evil.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 10:46 AM (yky4J)

189 Here is the thing with data centers...

Our domestic oligarchs and people like Musk generally believe they will generate a lot of $$$ as people use AI services.

The domestic oligarchs and their allied politicians also think they can be used for enhanced surveillance of the populace.

Meanwhile Chinese oligarchs want a technical edge on America so they want to stop AI investigation and development as much as they can.

So it is really a mixed bag as I think there is logic in all three sets of arguments. I'm already seeing real growth in the use of AI to generate value, I suspect it is already massively party of the surveillance state, and finally China really does want to get the edge in its development.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 10:47 AM (sKqQm)

190 Oops I'm a dummy Veterans Day

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:47 AM (MWfyi)

191 Data centers are the new fracking. Nobody had any clue what it was until CCp propaganda started fear mongering. It was very effective.

Data centers have been around for decades. But suddenly in 2026 they raised water and electricity bills and became very noisy. Sounds right.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:48 AM (JQfkC)

192 duh

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:48 AM (MWfyi)

193 Enjoying a flashback to Hurricane Helene. City is doing water main work. No water here until 5:00 pm.

Learned First Rule: Do Not Flush The Toilet!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 10:48 AM (XeU6L)

194 I guess this week's SS payments come tomorrow instead of Wednesday because of the holiday.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:48 AM (Jr5Lq)

195 I've been at the dentist. That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:49 AM (MWfyi)

196 I am very pro data center.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 09, 2026 10:40 AM (NlEaG)


I am neither for nor against them. If they are built according to existing laws and zoning regulations, and they abide by the quality-of-life laws on the books, I simply don't care.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 10:49 AM (k5CNB)

197 150 ... "I tend to like ones by this artist which have more relaxed settings, such as this one or two men talking over a meal outside at a cafe, rather than the martial ones with groups of soldiers."

Fenelon,
Agreed. Meissonier's battle scenes are effective but I prefer the gentle images like today's example. This one is especially appealing to me because I've spent a lot of time reading outdoors. Started with picture books on our front porch. The places have changed but the activity continues. I am amused/irritated by people who are surprised when they see me reading a physical book in a waiting room instead of staring at a screen.

Thanks for your kind remarks about my meandering art comments. Sincere but not highly informed. LOL!

Posted by: JTB at November 09, 2026 10:49 AM (yTvNw)

198 You can Whip Inflation Now! with a simple lapel button.

Posted by: Gerald Ford at November 09, 2026 10:49 AM (2Ez/1)

199 Dems are going to give us UBI. We are all set for life.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (MWfyi)

200
Want to tame both?

Fat chance, but reduce the size of government.


Every government bureaucrat is being paid for by some working man's salary.

As is every "free hot lunch" or "refugee seeker hotel room"

The right has largely failed to get this through into the LIVs heads that there is no free lunch.

And the interesting thing is earlier incarnations of the left ran afoul of this because LIVs finally started to notice all those "free" things the left offered were coming with tax increases.

Since the left has dropped the idea of tax increases and just prints the money now the LIVs don't see tax increases and is confused as to why the cost of everything increases instead...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (sKqQm)

201 On last nite's interview, DJT suggested that he wanted all data centers to provide their own power generation, and to feed their excess power to the grid.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (Jr5Lq)

202 I've been at the dentist.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:49 AM (MWfyi)


On a horse with no name?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (k5CNB)

203 Using Reddit and Instagram to fight against data centers is an all time great in “you really dont understand how things work”

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (JQfkC)

204 What about posting on AoSHQ while sitting on the terlitt? Not, um, that I’ve ever done that or anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 10:37 AM


Has our Terlitt Hobo weighed in on this yet?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (bFu5X)

205 Using Reddit and Instagram to fight against data centers is an all time great in “you really dont understand how things work”

In New England they have the populace demanding the end of gas pipelines while at the same time demanding people reduce the cost to heating their homes via gas.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (sKqQm)

206 My VISA bill this month is 2112 dollars. I'm in no rush to pay it.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (MWfyi)

207 Data centers are critical to most every sector of the US economy now. Modeling all sorts of things from buildings and medical drugs to high performance aircraft and enhanced surveillance systems.

Not all of that's "good" but it's there and people will rally behind whatever has their interests at heart.

Plus... the only other country right now that can pace the US is... China. And I wild presume they do not have our best interests in mind with their version of data centers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (RORbl)

208 I argued with Ai about gop senate screwing Trump with recess appts. It just spews bullshit unless you keep asking for clarification. Totally bogus.
Posted by: NCKate
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The old programmer's adage: 'Garbage in, garbage out'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (XeU6L)

209 I love YouTube. Right now it hosts an estimated 10 exabytes of content. That's prolly a couple of data centers right there.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (Jr5Lq)

210 On last nite's interview, DJT suggested that he wanted all data centers to provide their own power generation, and to feed their excess power to the grid.
Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (Jr5Lq)

Each data center with a small modular reactor?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (yky4J)

211 At some point in the future will all those big ugly data center behemoths suffer the same fate that befell shopping malls?

Posted by: I gotta ask at November 09, 2026 10:53 AM (2Ez/1)

212 the interesting thing is earlier incarnations of the left ran afoul of this because LIVs finally started to notice all those "free" things the left offered were coming with tax increases.

Since the left has dropped the idea of tax increases and just prints the money now the LIVs don't see tax increases and is confused as to why the cost of everything increases instead...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (sKqQm)

LIVs don’t pay taxes. Remember Romneys 47%? That crossed 50% long ago. 25% of people pay almost all taxes. More than 50% pay nothing.

It’s easy to promise free shit for everyone when the vast majority won’t have to pay for any of it.

Republicans are to blame for this. Starting with Bush who took millions of people off the tax rolls completely.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 10:54 AM (JQfkC)

213 At some point in the future will all those big ugly data center behemoths suffer the same fate that befell shopping malls?
Posted by: I gotta ask at November 09, 2026 10:53 AM


They'll be overrun by yutes in saggy pants?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 10:55 AM (bFu5X)

214 "Each data center with a small modular reactor?" He didn't get into any further detail.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:55 AM (Jr5Lq)

215 At some point in the future will all those big ugly data center behemoths suffer the same fate that befell shopping malls?

Datacenters are built that way to house a large number of CPUs. Since CPUs are expensive there is economic pressure to find a different way but at least now there is no one that can see how to do it.

Of course the same was true if you asked a mall owner in 1980 if the internet business model would replace him..."What's the internet?"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 10:55 AM (sKqQm)

216 My VISA bill this month is 2112 dollars. I'm in no rush to pay it.
Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (MWfyi)


I don't like to telegraph Comment of the Week candidates, but let's just say I'm glad I was lurking when that one showed up!

Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2026 10:55 AM (kuZER)

217 Where my EBT card at?

Posted by: La'Shondra at November 09, 2026 10:55 AM (2Ez/1)

218
188 My GG grandfather was held at Andersonville. We visited the site a few years ago. Interesting to walk the grounds.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 10:46 AM (enNUy)

I had an ancestor, a Colonel who was part of the Great Escape from Libby Prison in Richmond, 1864. Involved a months long digging of a tunnel from the basement to outside the walls, over 100 prisoners escaped. My ancestor made it back to Federal lines by walking through Richmond and he and three others pretending to be drunks at night singing confederate songs loudly. The sentries paid no attention to them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 10:56 AM (dJgiD)

219 What kinda book IS that? Look where that left hand is …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 09, 2026 10:56 AM (ayRl+)

220 French riots are because, 'Russia.'

EXCLUSIVE: Reuters, Covert Russian network exploited French riots on social media, EU report says

France 24, 11 minutes ago
Russian network used social media to blame French riots on immigration, EU report

UA News, EU assessment: Operation Overload tried to exploit unrest in France — Cyprus Mail

60 minutes would bite.
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marketscreener.com; 38 minutes ago
IBM Among Companies Sued by EU Over Delays in Border System Rollout

Ha!

BS, imho.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 10:57 AM (NFX2v)

221 191 Data centers have been around for decades. But suddenly in 2026 they raised water and electricity bills and became very noisy decided to build one next to my hometown in rural utah that is larger than the town itself. Sounds right.

fixt. last time i went through (45 year high school reunion last summer), there were workers putting in fiber alongside the roads all over the state.

Posted by: anachronda at November 09, 2026 10:58 AM (v3pYe)

222 I argued with Ai about gop senate screwing Trump with recess appts. It just spews bullshit unless you keep asking for clarification. Totally bogus.

The first computer Bullshit Artist was called Eliza, from 1966.

(I remember playing with it at a mall at a Radio Shack in the late 70s. I've got a copy of the program for an Atari 8-bit that I've never got around to booting up yet.)

And yes, it's totally bogus. It's amazing how much this 'chatbot' nonsense manages to fool people.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 09, 2026 10:58 AM (Hgt7l)

223 198 no immediate miracles

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 10:58 AM (Bep7s)

224 You can Whip Inflation Now! with a simple lapel button.
Posted by: Gerald Ford at November 09, 2026 10:49 AM (2Ez/1)
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And the city will be friendlier if everyone would wear a nametag.

Posted by: Lloyd Braun at November 09, 2026 10:58 AM (RIvkX)

225 Republicans are to blame for this. Starting with Bush who took millions of people off the tax rolls completely.

Shrub could have probably made major revisions in the tax code after 2002 to simplify it and make it fairer - get rid of indexing and just have everyone pay the same amount.

But he was no conservative and had no interest in such changes and even if he was his attempts to partially privatize SS failed due to his inability to sell a program he did want.

And speaking of which over that time period the stock market is up 400-500%. Good think we didn't let people put part of their SS money in that right?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 10:58 AM (sKqQm)

226 I've been to Andersonville many times. They have a fascinating POW museum there. Not just Civil War POWS, the WWs, Korea, Vietnam, etc.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 10:58 AM (MWfyi)

227 "At some point in the future will all those big ugly data center behemoths suffer the same fate that befell shopping malls?"

I anticipate some sudden tech breakthrough that reduces the amount of compute required per AI token 100X, making all that hardware obsolete. Something beyond the excruciatingly CPU-hungry neural net paradigm.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:59 AM (Jr5Lq)

228 >>@EricLDaugh
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>>🚨 JUST IN: Armed SECRET SERVICE and NATIONAL GUARD spotted near the White House after an absolute psycho RAMMED his car into a sign nearby, then battled with Secret Service before being subdued

>>The press was RUSHED inside, but the all-clear has been given. Good 🙏🏻

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 10:59 AM (viF8m)

229 LOL, CBD.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 09, 2026 10:59 AM (ibDUx)

230
201 On last nite's interview, DJT suggested that he wanted all data centers to provide their own power generation, and to feed their excess power to the grid.
Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (Jr5Lq)

I think the ideal solution is for every data center to have its own dedicated SMR (small modular reactor) and to provide any extra power available to the local community.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 10:59 AM (dJgiD)

231 The electricity thing is so dumb. Every industrial entity uses a lot of electricity. I don’t see Dems rushing to force a factory to provide its own electricity. But data centers have to?

It’s all CCP propaganda.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:00 AM (JQfkC)

232 I am the man in the box.
/s/ Alice in Chains

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:00 AM (Cw3N8)

233 Removing lower cohorts from the federal tax rolls started with Reagan tax cuts, not Bush. It's a recipe for whatever you call the country today. Disconnect between the population and basic civic issues like funding public activities. Sort of like the gulf between the public and the military with a very small professional military, but worse and more basic.

Opposing data centers and refineries is pretty much the same phenomenon. Guessing the idiocy that has created the refining bottlenecks/insufficiency will fail in the data center case, as the economic interests behind data centers (those directly involved) are a huge part of the economy, and not demonized and marginalized as much as those who make the entire modern economy possible (real energy producers).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (U/Byj)

234 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (NcvvS)

235 Data centers. He runs. He leaps. He shoots! Score one for 'Star Trek'.

'Data centers' is such a malleable term … and I really DGAF about them. Whether 'We, The Sheeple' want them or not, our 'gouvernment bettors' (yes, the mis-spell is intentional) will force them on us and we'll see none of the 'benefits' they promise with a 'pinky-swear' will be coming our way. Don't hold your breath.

Posted by: Dr_No at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (ayRl+)

236 Nood. Cyber Trucks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (bFu5X)

237 On last nite's interview, DJT suggested that he wanted all data centers to provide their own power generation, and to feed their excess power to the grid.
Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 10:50 AM (Jr5Lq)

Each data center with a small modular reactor?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 10:52 AM (yky4J)
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I think almost all datacenters were gonna end up with their own power, rather than rely on fickle and unreliable public power. They would generate their own power and recycle their own water.

There are arguments against massive data centers, but the power and water issues aren't among them.

I'm 99% sure that was a Chinese op.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (iFTx/)

238 SS is a giant slush fund for the left. They were never going to allow Bush or anyone to fuck with it.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (JQfkC)

239 >>The electricity thing is so dumb. Every industrial entity uses a lot of electricity. I don’t see Dems rushing to force a factory to provide its own electricity. But data centers have to?

>>It’s all CCP propaganda.

The reason electricity rates have gone up is largely because we are still dealing with the effects of Democrats Green New Deal that shuttered conventional power plants and replaced them with wind and solar. Also largely pushed by the CCP.

A good portion of our country is dumber than a bag of hammers and will believe what they are told to believe.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (viF8m)

240
231 The electricity thing is so dumb. Every industrial entity uses a lot of electricity. I don’t see Dems rushing to force a factory to provide its own electricity. But data centers have to?”

I actually get it. Old school factories that used a lot of power also provided a lot of jobs for the community. Data centers don’t, so no one local is invested in seeing them be successful.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (dJgiD)

241 Saw someone whining about the horrid, no-good, evil 99-year lease given to some data center in TX.

"no one alive today will ever see the end of that lease."

So many levels of stupidity in that.
1) absolute guarantee data centers will be obsolete in 10 years
2) governments revoke leases all the time; ask the Bundys
3) it's f'ing useless desert land, but please keep whining
4) $10 says that's a standard lease term on all commercial developments on state land and has nothing to do with data centers

Whatever.
We lost the debate on data centers--it's pure retard rage now not logic or reason.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Cw3N8)

242 I like the benefits of AI. I understand the need for data centers.

The utter contempt shown by our "betters" at any regular citizen expressing quite rational and logical concerns or questions about them has been staggering.

Things said or implied: The average person complaining is really a Chinese psyop! They're idiots who won't willingly shovel the garbage we're feeding them! Pay no attention to the backroom deals and graft we are lining our pockets with, citizens! You'll shut up and you'll like it.

The Utah county commissioners and even Governor Cox behaved this way. It was disgusting. It turns people off. If this is why so many races in Utah swung blue -- in addition to gas and food prices, the war, and new immigrants and Cali tech bros voting blue -- I don't really blame them.

Posted by: Wonder Woman at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (Toos7)

243 'm a germaphobe, and the bathroom is ground zero for that phobia. I never take books or food into a bathroom, even if I'm not there to poop.
Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 10:21 AM

Sheldon? Is that you?

Posted by: Leonard at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (hmYU4)

The Morning Report — 11/9 /26

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Good morning kids. Hope you all had a pleasant, peaceful, relaxing weekend and a chance to forget for at least a short while the nightmare we woke up to last Wednesday. Sorry to say that coming here and of course elsewhere across the conservative blogosphere, that nightmarish reality still dominates as you can see from the vast majority of links. I did not have a chance to go back to inspect previous entries to compare with the immediate aftermath of the past few elections but I suspect they were equally chock full o'links with post election analysis for several days if not entire news cycles. Of course this go round we have the Democrat/Left Propaganda Complex doing the moral equivalent of passing out candy and ululating in orgasmic glee at the site of the smoldering ruins of the Twin Towers on 9/11/01.

Among the essays are a couple in which the authors are stating that perhaps the horrendous defeat we suffered might be just the tonic we need to revitalize the movement and actually take back the nation going forward. While it certainly is true that the disaster that was the Carter presidency did indeed lead to the two terms of Ronald Reagan but the fecklessness and failure of George H.W. Bush did bring about two terms of Bill Clinton and then the Dubya years which then brought about Obama. And of course that nightmare, which at the time was certainly as horrifying as what we witnessed last week brought about the miracle victories of Donald Trump.

Yes the Bushes, McCains and Romneys along with the entirety of the GOP-e are indeed a complete turnoff to the majority of sane, normal Americans, which we have lamented and rightly so for years now, it still makes absolutely no sense given what the Democrats have historically been and this go round their open embrace of the most anti-American radicalism and Islam makes their survival and indeed the victories of the Clintons, Obama and Biden that much more a puzzler to me. Yes the GOP to put it mildly sucks. But if you're served a heaping plate of braised pus will you demand the waiter take it back and give you a cup of rat poison to make up for it?

So, getting back to those saying what happened last Tuesday will ultimately lead to restoration and revival, well color me skeptical.

Robespierres With Guillotines: Lust for Revenge Could Fuel the Next America First Resurgence: The insanity of the Democrats and their lunatic NeverTrump fringe transformed Trump from a pariah into a victim. . .

In closing, in case you think the Left is not really unhinged, consider the performance of Scott Galloway, an anti-Trump entrepreneur and professor at NYU. In front of a live audience recently, Galloway called Elon Musk “a traitor to the West.” What do we do with traitors? Galloway didn’t flinch. He noted that the Rosenbergs, Julius and Ethel, were “lined up against a wall,” i.e., executed. Musk, he said, deserved no less. The audience, I note, applauded. Amazing. Yes, such aspiring Robespierres might do some damage. They really are insane, power-hungry totalitarians in waiting. But their insanity will eventually call forth a salubrious counterrevolution. “Eventually.” I note that Senate terms are six years. That is a sobering thought. But it is also precisely the reason that everyone with the good of the country at heart must rally round and push back. I believe they will.

The always erudite and estimable Roger Kimball both gets it and misses the point. We are not dealing with Democrats who play by the same rules and adhere to the same belief system that we do. Far from it. They have a hate on for this nation as it was founded and its people. Always have and always will. There is nothing now to stop them from doing whatever they want or feel they need to do to finally grab the brass ring of absolute power and total dismantling of this nation as founded to maintain that power for all time.

And here too, the usually reliable J.B. Shurk:

It is true that the Democrats will prevent Trump from putting new judges on the bench or replacing anybody from his administration chased into retirement.  I hope that his people possess nerves of steel and are prepared to endure the theatrical browbeating and endless investigations that will soon come from Congress.. . The midterm results are bad for us.  However, I know this to be true: Victories can quickly become defeats, and defeats can often be turned into unexpected victories.  Put your faith in God and have the courage to keep fighting.  There is much to do.

And so here too Shurk states that "Defeats often turn into victories." This is what the Germans who voted against Hitler and the Nazis told themselves after his and their election to the Reichstag in 1933. Not even a year later, that building was in flames and every one of their political opponents were rounded up and shipped off to prisons and ultimately to Dachau, if they made it there alive.

And speaking of Dachau:

North Carolina Democrat Shelly Headen, who posted a Facebook story with a caption that said Trump supporters belong in concentration camps while visiting Dachau, is on track to beat Republican incumbent Rep. John Blust by 233 votes pending the tabulation of provisional ballots that will likely add to her lead.

And this is not hyperbole. They mean it. They will not merely stop at Trump or Stephen Miller or anyone else in the cabinet, they're coming after all of us.

Here we are on the 88th anniversary of Kristallnacht. While Jewish shops are now the targets in the city of Brotherly Love which is now the City of Muslim Brotherhoodly Love... Lest you forget that the Democrat Party now boasts a US Senator who is supported by and whose family members and probably he himself are members of that group. Meh, he's a practicing Muslim. Islam is utterly incompatible with America and civilization itself, and yet and yet! This too shall pass and perhaps it's a victory. Yeah, about that,


El-Sayed Declares Michigan ‘Capital Of Arab America’ In First Remarks As Senator-Elect — During his victory speech, El-Sayed repeated arabic phrases he's uttered along the campaign trail to rally supporters.

No doubt they were also yucking it up about how Charlie Kirk was butchered.

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 07:39 AM (dylrg)

2 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 07:39 AM (5UTWB)

3 Argh!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 07:40 AM (5UTWB)

4 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 07:40 AM (dylrg)

5 Happy Monday

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 09, 2026 07:40 AM (/+uur)

6 I'll be back...

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at November 09, 2026 07:41 AM (Q/FnY)

7 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 07:41 AM (u82oZ)

8 Even Robespierre eventually got guillotined.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 09, 2026 07:42 AM (LOvBA)

9 Mooornin!

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 09, 2026 07:42 AM (OFFIZ)

10 Say goodbye to the electoral college and hello to your Maoist overlords:

https://tinyurl.com/2byzhhd4

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 07:42 AM (5UTWB)

11 speaking of Durka Durka Jihad...

"Jonathan Gregory
@TrumpNews_Baby
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22h
ABDUL EL SAYED FAILS BACKGROUND CHECK FOR CLASSIFIED SENATE BRIEFINGS

Washington, DC - November 8, 2026
Abdul El Sayed has failed the background check required for classified Senate briefings. The denial blocks him from any session that involves sensitive national security information. Officials who conduct the clearances reported that the review did not meet the standards necessary for access to restricted materials. The failure leaves open the question of what specific issues prevented approval.

Senators who receive classified briefings must clear the same process before they can attend. El Sayed’s rejection means he cannot participate in those meetings. The decision places him outside the normal flow of information that other members receive. Americans who expect every senator to qualify for the same briefings now see one individual excluded by the clearance system.

The denial raises direct concerns about what the background check uncovered. Officials have not released the precise reasons but the result itself is public..."

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:43 AM (AKptf)

12 And this is not hyperbole. They mean it. They will not merely stop at Trump or Stephen Miller or anyone else in the cabinet, they're coming after all of us.

There is no doubt the new (D) talking point Crime Against the American Public will quickly become a rallying point to find a plumber or a roofer that can be Stood Up and persecuted.
That was the entire point of the Soros DAs.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 09, 2026 07:43 AM (/+uur)

13 Reports of my death are somewhat exaggerated.

Posted by: MAGA at November 09, 2026 07:44 AM (LOvBA)

14 Good morning again dear morons and happy birthday JJ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:44 AM (RIvkX)

15 Doctors’ group asks Easton to shut down PA Bacon Fest a day before festival’s start

There’s no reason to celebrate bacon, according to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.

The group wants Easton to cancel PA Bacon Fest this past weekend and replace it with a celebration for a healthy food like hazelnuts, cherries or chestnuts.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 07:44 AM (f4LHe)

16 In Arab American can anyone bid on Slaves and Child Brides or so you have to join a mosque?

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 09, 2026 07:44 AM (/+uur)

17
Cynical Publius

@CynicalPublius
This is what I believe happened in the 96 hours before, during and after Election Day. I have little insider information, this is just me connecting some dots. I could be wrong:

1. The Trump Administration knew it would be a wipeout.

2. The Vance team coordinated with Susie Wiles so there would be a concerted information campaign to blame the loss on Pete Hegseth because of Iran and to oust him, thereby clearing a JD Vance competitor from the field (plus maybe Rubio too).

3. Trump was unaware of this campaign, which included Susie scheduling a Saturday Camp David meeting with Vance/Susie loyalists with Trump out of town (that meeting got cancelled).

4. Vance dropped his "It wasn't me" X post on Wednesday morning (which directly blamed Trump's decisions but also impliedly blamed Hegseth and Rubio), but not before a whole bunch of people (me included) had already started backing Hegseth.

5. Hegseth himself dropped an info campaign that was clearly in anticipation of unfriendly folks in the admin trying to pin the loss on him.

6. It all came to a head in the Oval Office where Trump had to choose between Susie and Hegseth. Trump chose Hegseth

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 07:46 AM (f4LHe)

18 thank you, JJ!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 07:46 AM (VyBeY)

19 Thank you JJ. Morning all

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 07:47 AM (LQ1/y)

20
Benny Johnson

The Benny Show
@bennyjohnson
It’s going to be a wild week in the US Senate. Buckle up.

I have been calling around to various Republican Senators this weekend.

A few takeaways…

1. Conference is just furious — pissed is an understatement.
2. They see their own inaction on critical issues like the SAVE Act and insider trading bills as a major de-motivator for the midterms. They blame Thune and leadership for playing safe.
3. The rushed Leadership vote Tuesday is seen as a blatant insult. Senators want to know how their Leaders will respond to lame duck session and being in a steep minority.
4. Over a dozen Senators are demanding round the clock work on Trump nominations and judicial appointments. Some believe parts of the SAVE Act can still be passed through reconciliation.
5. Recess appointments are also being demanded. Thune is holding them up.
6. Senators are openly questioning their adherence to “tradition” — blue slip, filibuster etc. — as a new crop of Democrats couldn’t care less and will destroy tradition for power in a heartbeat.
7. There’s a sense that something big is going to happen. A real shakeup. Stay tuned…

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 07:48 AM (f4LHe)

21 It all came to a head in the Oval Office where Trump had to choose between Susie and Hegseth. Trump chose Hegseth

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there was a gossip story in the DM that he yelled at her, really was pissed with her, and kicked her out of the oval, plus there is some corruption stories swirling around her and her family - her daughter.. I really would like to know why DeSantis fired her after she worked on his campaign

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:49 AM (AKptf)

22 I believe about 1% of what I read on X. The conservative “influencers” I’m convinced they make up 99% of their shit posts…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 07:50 AM (LQ1/y)

23 The Benny Show
@bennyjohnson
It’s going to be a wild week in the US Senate. Buckle up.
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I laughed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:51 AM (RIvkX)

24 "An educator in New York City has reportedly been taking a handsome salary of over $192,000 for not running a school that was never opened to students.
Report: ‘Principal’ Rapper Paid $192K Salary to Lead Nonexistent NYC High School"

there are no words ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 07:51 AM (VyBeY)

25 Senate better have a shakeup ! Thune and his cronies must go from leadership!

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:51 AM (AKptf)

26 ... it still makes absolutely no sense given what the Democrats have historically been and this go round their open embrace of the most anti-American radicalism and Islam makes their survival and indeed the victories of the Clintons, Obama and Biden that much more a puzzler to me. ...

Not a puzzle at all, MANFRED explains:
Over 200 million people world-wide live under the direct or indirect rule of these criminal entities and armed factions globally.

the LIB goal? How to get to the remaining 7.8Billion
-- with assets to seize and people to burn, why would they hesitate?

Bolsanaro? let's say it was a decade from now rather than today. Whe camp'd out at cTHIEL's Argentine fully militarized compound declared war on Brazil AND WON !!! without any tactical or strategic doubt.

The Big WHY? Don't kid yourself.
7.8Billion people abide with the absolute dysfunctional need for a leader to follow and are willing to be seduced by tub's/AOC, chunks/Meloni (fears EU diplomatically irrelevant) and all the other EuroClowns.

Amidst all this TRUMP was elected to be our Rorschach ; LIBs see the man that is better at the game than they are -- what do you see?

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 09, 2026 07:51 AM (16aB8)

27 I'm facing more urgent matters. Such as, poached or scrambled.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:52 AM (RIvkX)

28 > Kamala Harris drew just six of 990 votes and tied for 16th

That won't stop her.

Remember she was anointed as the candidate even though she'd been forced to withdraw from her own party's primary without winning a single delegate in the previous election cycle.

Solution: "Well, we just won't have a primary."

> Nvidia CEO faces probe over affair with alleged Chinese spy — as Rubio memo warned about her months ago

A valuable lesson here. It's not just dimwitted mooks like Eric Swalwell who get in trouble by letting the little head do the thinking for the big head. Even geniuses like Huang can become prey.

Keep your penises on a a leash, guys. Not to sound holier-than-thou... in my youth, mine talked me into a few things that I regretted later.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 09, 2026 07:52 AM (qlLNh)

29 The Benny Show
@bennyjohnson
It’s going to be a wild week in the US Senate. Buckle up.

I have been calling around to various Republican Senators this weekend.

A few takeaways…

1. Conference is just furious — pissed is an understatement.
2. They see their own inaction on critical issues like the SAVE Act and insider trading bills as a major de-motivator for the midterms. They blame Thune and leadership for playing safe.
3. The rushed Leadership vote Tuesday is seen as a blatant insult. Senators want to know how their Leaders will respond to lame duck session and being in a steep minority.
4. Over a dozen Senators are demanding round the clock work on Trump nominations and judicial appointments. Some believe parts of the SAVE Act can still be passed through reconciliation.
5. Recess appointments are also being demanded. Thune is holding them up.
6. Senators are openly questioning their adherence to “tradition” — blue slip, filibuster etc. — as a new crop of Democrats couldn’t care less and will destroy tradition for power in a heartbeat.
7. There’s a sense that something big is going to happen. A real shakeup. Stay tuned…
Posted by: SMOD


*makes Shake Weight motion

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 07:53 AM (dylrg)

30 Keep your penises on a a leash, guys. Not to sound holier-than-thou... in my youth, mine talked me into a few things that I regretted later.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia



Seriously? Hell, any woman that pays me any amount of attention is suspect.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 07:54 AM (dylrg)

31 Speaking of oil prices, 95% of gas stations in the US are allegedly "independently owned", "small businesses"...really ? because 95% of the ones in my small town seem to be owned by Middle Eastern or Phakistani individuals.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:54 AM (AKptf)

32 There’s a sense that something big is going to happen. A real shakeup. Stay tuned…

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Nothing big is going to happen. There will be no shakeup.

Posted by: SH at November 09, 2026 07:55 AM (qCV5n)

33 poached eggs are disgusting!

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:55 AM (AKptf)

34 7. There’s a sense that something big is going to happen. A real shakeup. Stay tuned…
Posted by: SMOD


*makes Shake Weight motion

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 07:53 AM (dylrg)
=====

Something is going to happen alright. Shrimp Louis instead of crab at the regular Tuesday caucus lunch.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:55 AM (RIvkX)

35 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 07:56 AM (sgkY8)

36 poached eggs are disgusting!
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:55 AM (AKptf)
=====

Benedict on Mrs. F's homemade muffins. Fresh hollandaise. Incredible.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:57 AM (RIvkX)

37 24 "An educator in New York City has reportedly been taking a handsome salary of over $192,000 for not running a school that was never opened to students.
Report: ‘Principal’ Rapper Paid $192K Salary to Lead Nonexistent NYC High School"

there are no words ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Moral Vandalism is the sine qua non of the LIBs.
To acceed to the unearned to seize the unearned.
Their Value Illicitly obtained retains no value.
To get you to fear Evil because it is Evil to fail to uphold good for being good
-- Evil prevails (for now) because good men continue to do Absolutely Nothing, only because DS is so successful in distorting the real targets.

Never JD.
Never Rubio.
Never Nicky.
Never cTHEIL.

Trump was elected to be our Rorschach
He is the storm -- what do you see?
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-AgentOrangeOwnsTheLIBs

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 09, 2026 07:57 AM (adBRj)

38 This is what I believe happened in the 96 hours before, during and after Election Day. I have little insider information, this is just me connecting some dots. I could be wrong

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He has no insider information. He is completely wrong because it is completely made up fiction.

Posted by: SH at November 09, 2026 07:57 AM (qCV5n)

39 Good morning, horde!

Praying for good job news today, and praying for a better week for us all!

Now to get to the school and substitute for the day.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 09, 2026 07:57 AM (aJQbY)

40 On Saturday, Trump fired off a Truth Social post demanding a Justice Department investigation and prison time for the Democrats he branded "extortionists," accusing them of threatening Republican officials and GOP donors.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 07:58 AM (f4LHe)

41 Hello again, Horde. Looking forward to the short work week and planning out my meals for Wednesday.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 07:58 AM (RjOoY)

42 They will not merely stop at Trump or Stephen Miller or anyone else in the cabinet, they're coming after all of us.

It will not go as smoothly as they imagine.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 08:00 AM (RjOoY)

43 The part that has me gob-smacked this morning is the SenateGOP saying 'oh boy- now we really have to buckle down and get to work!'

"It's just a flesh wound!"

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 08:00 AM (ZxPkt)

44 When we had a substitute teacher we took it as an opportunity to find what was most annoying to him or her.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 08:01 AM (RIvkX)

45 NR Pax

Just as Hitler killed Hitler, Commies kill Commies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 08:01 AM (u82oZ)

46 Anyone who wins federal election (or “wins” wink wink) is “deemed” to have passed a background check and loyalty test.

This is, of course, errant nonsense. Contress is full of people who could never pass a basic security security questionnaire and background check of the the type routinely performed by the military for clearances. SF86 iirc, and I may not.

Huge flaw in our system. Anyone contemplating running should have to pass before throwing their hat in the ring.

Never mind tax returns, candidates for public office should have their FBI file released for public review. The usual suspects would howl, but that’s not news.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 09, 2026 08:01 AM (+qoHP)

47 Just as Hitler killed Hitler, Commies kill Commies.
Posted by: NaCly Dog


"COMRADE!"

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 08:02 AM (RjOoY)

48 >22h
ABDUL EL SAYED FAILS BACKGROUND CHECK FOR CLASSIFIED SENATE BRIEFINGS

----

gonna go out on a limb here....
but something tells me he'll pass a subsequent test, because of the reasons

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 08:02 AM (ZxPkt)

49 "perhaps the horrendous defeat we suffered might be just the tonic we need to revitalize the movement"

Yeah, like the Tea Party.

/S

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 08:03 AM (gOCLG)

50 There’s a sense that something big is going to happen. A real shakeup. Stay tuned…

----------------

Nothing big is going to happen. There will be no shakeup.

--

I'm with you, SH. I get tired of seeing this kind of stuff all over X, all over various blogs. I've loooong ago stopped believing "something big" is in the works to reverse our rot and change or expose all the wretched things that are happening. There's no 3D chess moves coming to save us from anything. At least, not from any political figure or apparatus. Nothing.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 08:03 AM (qBdHI)

51 Common Tater

Dunning-Kruger people rule over us.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 08:04 AM (u82oZ)

52 ABDUL EL SAYED FAILS BACKGROUND CHECK FOR CLASSIFIED SENATE BRIEFINGS

----

gonna go out on a limb here....
but something tells me he'll pass a subsequent test, because of the reasons

===

Wagers on just how fast Schmucky will put him on the Senate Intelligence Committee anyway?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 08:04 AM (qBdHI)

53 Hey remember a few weeks ago when that towel-head congressbitch was on the hotseat?

good times, good times

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 08:05 AM (ZxPkt)

54 32 There’s a sense that something big is going to happen. A real shakeup. Stay tuned…

Nothing big is going to happen. There will be no shakeup.
Posted by: SH

Under Reported example: forWAR'd forEVER!
cameoEuClownOfTheDay: chunks/Meloni
What could possibly go (is going) wrong? the prevaling winds now flowing westward from russia until feb/march.

Italy's Meloni Warns Europe Risks Irrelevance in Ukraine Peace Talks

Meloni criticized the proliferation of fragmented negotiating groups, such as the Coalition of the Willing and the Berlin format, arguing competing initiatives make Europe appear to proceed in 'random order'.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 09, 2026 08:06 AM (/v8uY)

55 >Wagers on just how fast Schmucky will put him on the Senate Intelligence Committee anyway?

Posted by: Lady in Black
----

Sure WHY NOT.

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 08:06 AM (ZxPkt)

56 fd

We need an entirely new organization. With an AI computer named Mike as administrator. And a cell structure.

The GOPe, for all that it has some good people and ideas, has betrayed the base too many times.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ)

57 Trump chose Hegseth

Hegseth is the impediment to the inevitable color revolution.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:07 AM (NzX/y)

58 Community Notes

Trump will never be Cromwell. Will Hegseth?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 08:08 AM (u82oZ)

59 Using AI impersonation capabilities, thieves stole $26 million from a town near my own in New Jersey. The most shocking thing is the town even has $26 million!

With the help of the FBI, a part has been recovered, but the rest (about $8 million) seems to be gone.

Of course, the Democrat mayor running for re-election did not disclose the theft prior to the election.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 08:09 AM (qPiHX)

60 Drove a long way and can't do what was supposed to do.
At least heading back towards home to another job

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 08:09 AM (sgkY8)

61 The loss in 2020 gutted me. I, and I'm sure many here, thought the country was irrevocably lost.
I don't feel that way now and this situation objectively looks more perilous than then.
Somehow, we're going to come out fine.

I'm just watching what Trump will do.
If he goes on offense, we have a good chance for 2028. If it's defense, then things are pretty dark.

For me, I want to see him attack the three pillars of power of the deep state:
1) Secrecy
2) Access
3) Protection

Cutting off their money is good. But money flows to power like water downhill--you'll never stop it.
He needs to kill their power.

Transparency and openness.

The shallow post mortems on 2026 wants to blame acts or events. But these didn't happen on their own--choices and decisions were made to cause them.
We all have a list by now of various events or moments where Trump lost a little more and a little more.
But, for me, each of those leads back to a single source: the failure, the betrayal, the loss of initiative all benefited the permanent state, the deep state.
One faction benefits from hiding the Epstein lists; most factions benefit from killing DOGE; another faction benefits from the Iran war; etc.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 08:10 AM (Cw3N8)

62 I’m now officially aligned with the “nothing will happen” guy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 08:10 AM (LQ1/y)

63
I'd laugh my ass off if Dave Chapelle took one in the neck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2026 08:11 AM (x0n13)

64 Morn' all....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 08:11 AM (+gK6I)

65 So, on 60 Minutes, filmed before Miller took over as Chief of Staff, Trump said he wanted to work towards an immigration deal with Dems in the new term...

So, we'll see if Miller stops than insanity cold...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:11 AM (Gb7+b)

66 Hegseth is a good Secretary of War… but he’s not yet presidential timber IMO. Too soon. Rubio please

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 08:12 AM (LQ1/y)

67 65 So, on 60 Minutes, filmed before Miller took over as Chief of Staff, Trump said he wanted to work towards an immigration deal with Dems in the new term...

So, we'll see if Miller stops than insanity cold...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:11 AM (Gb7+b

Never go on 60 minutes

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 08:12 AM (+gK6I)

68 Huge flaw in our system. Anyone contemplating running should have to pass before throwing their hat in the ring.

==

For Pete's sake, we don't even have what it takes to remove a congresswoman who is 100% here fraudulently. For all intents and purposes, she's illegal. And she's a part of our federal legislative body!

If that doesn't scream FUBAR, I don't know what does.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 08:13 AM (qBdHI)

69 A few takeaways…

1. Conference is just furious — pissed is an understatement.
2. They see their own inaction on critical issues like the SAVE Act and insider trading bills as a major de-motivator for the midterms. They blame Thune and leadership for playing safe.

=============================
This. Every rational voter detests Senate Republicans, the do-nothing self-satisfied martini-swilling pigs that they are, with the heat of a thousand suns.

I

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (qPiHX)

70 But if you're served a heaping plate of braised pus will you demand the waiter take it back and give you a cup of rat poison to make up for it?
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Look at the way the "majority" acted during covid.

Many of them gleefully set about to inject themselves *multiple times for years* with a known experimental drug with unknown negative effects and positive effects that were explicitly unpredictable.

We are not rational beings. None of us are. The Left and others through history that control information know how to use that to their advantage.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (RZ+Ww)

71 “The Shocking Math Behind The Midterm Disaster“

I’ve been running numbers myself, at least for Texas, and coming up with the same conclusions. It’s just a cope to claim it was fraud, that would be easy to accept psychologically. The real explanation is much harder to accept, or even face.

More than any other factor, it was heavy ICE enforcement that destroyed Republican control in Texas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (dJgiD)

72 >>Hegseth is the impediment to the inevitable color revolution.

We're in the middle of it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (viF8m)

73 67 65 So, on 60 Minutes, filmed before Miller took over as Chief of Staff, Trump said he wanted to work towards an immigration deal with Dems in the new term...

So, we'll see if Miller stops than insanity cold...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:11 AM (Gb7+b

Never go on 60 minutes
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 08:12 AM (+gK6I)

Tell that to Trump...and they didn't take him out of context...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (Gb7+b)

74 We need an entirely new organization. With an AI computer named Mike as administrator. And a cell structure.


Oddly, that would check off a box on my list of Things That Must Happen™

The world after the Color Revolution will be a form of Plato's Republic where AI backs the Philosopher Kings. Their revolutionaries in the form of Muslims, criminal gangs Name-A-Thug, will be the Auxiliaries

The H1Bs, and other governable foreigners are the "Producers"

There is no room for heritage Americans.

This is what the imagine. What will be reality will be deliberated in Hell, and ordained by God.

Forget Rapture, that is American Religion Escapism, its the "Its appointed once for man to die". Here is the mechanism. Don't let the 250 million murdered by Communists in the 20th century escape your attention.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (NzX/y)

75 Every rational voter detests Senate Republicans, the do-nothing self-satisfied martini-swilling pigs that they are, with the heat of a thousand suns.

I

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (qPiHX)

The worst part is so do the irrational voters.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:15 AM (RZ+Ww)

76 Good morning , happy Monday. Thx JJ .
Well the first post midterm leftist action went over like a fart in church. The anti Jewish protest in Philly was a flop as thousands of country protesters showed up. That is only the first of many to come however

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 08:16 AM (FroOw)

77 It blows my mind that any (straight) man would vote for a party that openly detests them.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 08:16 AM (2Drhq)

78 The strongest message Trump crafted in 2024 was: "Kamala is for they/them; Trump is for you."

How effective and powerful was it?

Democrats completely stole it for 2026, where their entire message was "Democrats are for you."
(While Republicans pathetically tried to run on just the first part.)

And that right there is how we win in 2028:
Trump takes back his message--Trump is for you.

Not just "Make America Great Again" but "Make Americans Great Again."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 08:17 AM (Cw3N8)

79 An "immigration deal" has been the goal of every GOP President since Reagan. Democrats are Iranian on this issue, they will never, ever make a deal.

The victimization card works too well for them, and so Dems would rather keep the law as-is and then piously advise everyone to break it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 08:17 AM (dqXnu)

80 Today Is Go To An Art Museum Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 08:17 AM (wzaBj)

81
LOL.

"Revitalize the movement."

I've heard this old saw a few times before. Like, for decades. Since the 90s. My old man's been hearing it since Goldwater.

There is no electoral answer. The system is hemmed up tight. This is a song sung by crooked politicians & professional scribblers trying to keep a few grains of rice in their grimy bowls.

Enough already.

Fuck your fake movement, and fuck your stupid Party.

It's more annoying and much worse than door knockers from a millenniarian cult. At least they actually believe their bullshit.

ConInc is closer to the desperate, sweaty guy with a combover hustling people for Amway.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 08:17 AM (BI5O2)

82 Hegseth is a good Secretary of War… but he’s not yet presidential timber IMO. Too soon. Rubio please

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 08:12 AM


I think last tuesday showed us exactly who we need to run in 2028. My choice is the only person to keep his state red in the face of a huge blue tsunami.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2026 08:17 AM (I43vL)

83 Democrats plan to push clean energy to lower bills and challenge Trump’s fossil fuel agenda

Energy that is at least 2X as costly as natural gas will lower bills.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 09, 2026 08:17 AM (/+uur)

84 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at November 09, 2026 08:19 AM (53oGX)

85 More than any other factor, it was heavy ICE enforcement that destroyed Republican control in Texas.

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I don't think I'll ever understand this aside from the average American just being a wishy washy idiot.

Trump was elected in '24, in part because of overwhelming support for removing illegals from this country. Now all of the sudden, we're a bunch of nail biting couch fainters with the vapors over him doing just what he was elected to do???

It wasn't like armed agents were storming into kindergarten classes and dragging out screaming and crying kids.

The country is too stupid to survive.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 08:19 AM (qBdHI)

86
Christian Conservatives Can’t Import A New Electorate Like Democrats, But We Can Have Lots Of Babies”

I’ve been telling friends for some time, and only half joking, that by 2060 America is going to be 50% conservative Christian, and 50% Mexican. That’s who’s having all the babies.

It’ll be an interesting mix.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:20 AM (dJgiD)

87 I'd laugh my ass off if Dave Chapelle took one in the neck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Especially after Charlie Kirk voiced support for him after some dude attacked him. Gratitude is a function of memory which seems to deteriorate rapidly with celebrities.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 08:22 AM (RjOoY)

88 More than any other factor, it was heavy ICE enforcement that destroyed Republican control in Texas.

I'm not going to declare that level of omniscience into the mind of every voter — not my department nor skill set.

I'm amused at the Data Centers = AI. AI is Bad. Data Centers must Go mentality.

10-20% of compute is AI based on energy consumption reports (there are no data for % of compute provided by providers).

Four million people in the US are getting mobile devices and data services each year. Add in the 40 million foreigners added in the past few years.

Mobile devices = streaming, telemetry, ordering, banking, reservations, geolocation added to the increase of IoT in the form of sensors, smart-appliances, Ring and Flock cameras, transportation, utility etc.

Limiting Data Centers in a fast growing world where AI is the fastest growing sector is to Affordability as is stopping housing construction permits or denying oil well permits.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:22 AM (U4c/V)

89 The U.S. Army officer who supervised Maryland Gov. Wes Moore (D) during his deployment to Afghanistan called for the governor to “be honest” about his role. (an artillery spotter for the Taliban - jjs)

/punchline
Usually we ride the camel over to town and visit the whorehouse.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 09, 2026 08:22 AM (/+uur)

90 >>I’ve been running numbers myself, at least for Texas, and coming up with the same conclusions. It’s just a cope to claim it was fraud, that would be easy to accept psychologically. The real explanation is much harder to accept, or even face.

It all depends on how you define fraud. Too many people are looking at traditional forms of fraud like voting machines and not looking at what an enormous network of leftist aligned groups with somewhere around $1 billion did to build "Democrat" turnout.

They simply outspent, out organized, out registered and out voted us unlike anything they've ever done before while refusing to tighten election laws and refusing to turn over voter rolls.

Scroll to the bottom of this post and listen to the video and you can hear in their own words how they did it.

https://tinyurl.com/374dnnz9

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:22 AM (viF8m)

91 Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 08:19 AM (qBdHI)

This boggles my mind as well. Trump told them what he was going to do, they voted for him to do it, Trump did it...and now they vote in waves against him doing it. This is not a serious nation.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 08:23 AM (2Drhq)

92 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at November 09, 2026 08:24 AM (2Ez/1)

93 Oh, I've already seen several reports of 1000s and 1000s more illegals plowing through country after country on their way to our southern border now that Trump is "weakened."

Isn't it funny how all these poor "refugees" keep going through country after country for refuge until they reach the US? The Bible tells Christians to care for refugees. These people are not refugees. They are economic opportunists coming to plunder America and pull us down under the water until we drown.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 08:24 AM (qBdHI)

94 36 poached eggs are disgusting!
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:55 AM (AKptf)
=====

Benedict on Mrs. F's homemade muffins. Fresh hollandaise. Incredible.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:57 AM (RIvkX)
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Eggs Bonecrusher
roasted portabello mushroom cap
fresh spinach
smoked salmon
poached egg
Hollandaise sause
Stack them in the above order. Truly a culinary delight.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at November 09, 2026 08:25 AM (JNTt1)

95 Hispanic voters in Texas turned out in the heaviest numbers ever seen, and on average there was an average 29 point shift from GOP to democrat among this segment. In the 14 Hispanic majority border counties, there was a 38 point shift towards the dems.

They turned out because Ginojoza (who none of us Anglos knew) ran what was in retrospect a brilliant Anti-ICE campaign on all Spanish Language media, telling them constantly that they were all subject to being hunted down and arrested regardless of their citizenship status. We didn’t even know this was happening, so of course no Republican candidate responded to the claims at all.

I have several Hispanic acquaintances here who’ve told me how effective it was. Plus, Gina is cute and soft spoken, so Mexican Machismo meant every Mexican male had to vote for her. Outside of those two things, the rest was just whatever to them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:26 AM (dJgiD)

96 Lawrence of Arabia was not dealing with the fanatic Muslims we have today. Even so he identified them as savages, pretty and foolish, and incapable of civility

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 08:26 AM (GSpTB)

97 >>Isn't it funny how all these poor "refugees" keep going through country after country for refuge until they reach the US?

Even more curious how thousands of people independently decide to drop everything and leave for the US in a few days.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:28 AM (viF8m)

98 I am seeing multiple reports pointing to Susan Wiles as one of the key failures of Trump 2.0.

In addition to Cynical Publius quoted above, John Konrad writes a long post on X on her and two others who basically ran Trump 2.0 like a traditional low-stakes GOPe Republican administration.
Where the goal is not to advance conservative policies but more to advance personal profit and careers.*

Whether Miller is the answer depends on one thing:
Will he give us answers?

Nothing matters until we are told honestly why the choices were made that led to last Tuesday.

*Harmeet Dillion is really coming off with a lot of stink of this; that she only wanted the DOJ job so long as it was a star on her resume. I'll add Bondi and Noem to that list.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 08:28 AM (Cw3N8)

99 I’ve been running numbers myself, at least for Texas, and coming up with the same conclusions. It’s just a cope to claim it was fraud, that would be easy to accept psychologically. The real explanation is much harder to accept, or even face.

More than any other factor, it was heavy ICE enforcement that destroyed Republican control in Texas.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (dJgiD)

As always, it is a number of issues, add Rs who did not do shit, selling themselves to corporates..and you get what you got. I love electricity, but if, for example, you build a transmission tower next to my house without asking me if I like the arrangement, and then someone come is and says "moratorium", I would listen.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:28 AM (AKptf)

100 It blows my mind that any (straight) man would vote for a party that openly detests them.

Their future is only violence since they have voted otherwise for peaceful obliteration.

No woman wants a loser who can't get a job. So the man has no family, no job, no purpose and society keeps telling him each and every day that he is a toxic monster and a piece of shit.

Then shoot, imprison or cancel any man who tells him different.

Solution? Vote for MOAR of the same.

Yeah, that kind of loser-think should be a Darwin move.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:29 AM (9s47C)

101 {{{Lady in Black}}} & Delurker

The real story, of the correct vote, would be a GOP win across the board.

This will be a closely guarded secret, like who acted as President 2020-24, who organized the COVID-19 Wuhan vaccine killing of the innocents, and who stole all the money from Americans.

The insiders on the Left and GOPe know. But the ability to steal from America just reopened.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 08:29 AM (u82oZ)

102 I’ve been telling friends for some time, and only half joking, that by 2060 America is going to be 50% conservative Christian, and 50% Mexican. That’s who’s having all the babies.

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Don't forget Islam. A seemingly rapidly growing faction within our borders. Because I fully expect the next D-Communist president to put pedal to the metal in importing as many of them as possible, dovetailing on what the Dog Eater did while in office. "Fundamentally transforming" the United States of America.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2026 08:29 AM (qBdHI)

103 "they were all subject to being hunted down and arrested regardless of their citizenship status"

And now it can the case for anyone in the US.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 08:29 AM (GSpTB)

104 I have several Hispanic acquaintances here who’ve told me how effective it was. Plus, Gina is cute and soft spoken, so Mexican Machismo meant every Mexican male had to vote for her. Outside of those two things, the rest was just whatever to them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:26 AM (dJgiD)

This is 100% consistent with my “the voters were retarded” analysis

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 08:29 AM (LQ1/y)

105 If you wonder how a move inside the Texas Hispanic/Latino community could make that big a change, here’s how the numbers shake out.

According to the US Census Bureau, as of 2026 Texas is:
Hispanic/Latino: 41.7%
White/Non-Hispanic: 37%
Black/Asian/Other: 21%

In this election, Hispanics voted 75/25 for Dems (in 2024 it was more like 50/50)
White/Non-Hispanic were about 75/25 GOP
Black/Asian/Other was about 80/20 Dem.

Work out those numbers, and you get 31+9+15 = Dems end up with 55% of the vote, wiping out the GOP at all levels.
( assuming equal turnout, but actually Hispanic turnout was very heavy)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:30 AM (dJgiD)

106 As always, it is a number of issues, add Rs who did not do shit, selling themselves to corporates..and you get what you got. I love electricity, but if, for example, you build a transmission tower next to my house without asking me if I like the arrangement, and then someone come is and says "moratorium", I would listen.
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:28 AM (AKptf)

Not just Rs didn't do sh&t, but purposely didn't care to do sh&t...lack of care is the killer...

It's not like Thune took the votes, stayed in the Senate, gave speeches about staying until Americans were helped...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:30 AM (Gb7+b)

107 Tell that to Trump...and they didn't take him out of context...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (Gb7+b)

If I lit my hair on fire over shit Trump says I would have been blacker than the Ace of Spades in December 2015.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:30 AM (RZ+Ww)

108 Oh, well. At least we should have a banger of a MNF game tonight. Battle of the 6-1 Vikes and Bills.

Trying to find some brightness.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 08:31 AM (2Drhq)

109 'No woman wants a loser who can't get a job"

Apparently you are not familiar with the baby mama denizens of the city closest to me.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 08:31 AM (GSpTB)

110 107 Tell that to Trump...and they didn't take him out of context...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:14 AM (Gb7+b)

If I lit my hair on fire over shit Trump says I would have been blacker than the Ace of Spades in December 2015.
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:30 AM (RZ+Ww)

Yes, but all Rs know that you say you want an immigration deal with Dems, you are running up the white flag of surrender and are gonna give in on everything...when this was the one thing that was working...and was popular with the base, if not the LIVs...

Amnesty is a killer to 2028 Rs...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:33 AM (Gb7+b)

111 It doesn't matter what Trump does. They hate him and will kill him if they can. He will be lucky to get out alive. After the worthless GOP fails again in 2028 the shit will accelerate.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 08:35 AM (GSpTB)

112 I have several Hispanic acquaintances here who’ve told me how effective it was. Plus, Gina is cute and soft spoken, so Mexican Machismo meant every Mexican male had to vote for her. Outside of those two things, the rest was just whatever to them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:26 AM (dJgiD)


"machismo"...Eh, not sure you can hang your hat on that. She ran on things they agreed with, many centrist, and she is an excellent retail politician.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:35 AM (AKptf)

113 I have several Hispanic acquaintances here who’ve told me how effective it was. Plus, Gina is cute and soft spoken, so Mexican Machismo meant every Mexican male had to vote for her. Outside of those two things, the rest was just whatever to them.
Posted by: Tom Servo


And when they lose their jerbs to lower paid illegals, Ima point and laugh.
I don't want to hear one fucking whine from a dem voter.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 08:36 AM (dylrg)

114 So the Hispanic vote which hit a historic high for Trump in 2024 completely flipped on him in 2026 when he did exactly what he said he as going to do?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:36 AM (viF8m)

115 "The Votes Are In, ‘Affordability’ Is Out: Dems Pivot to Sanctuary Cities and War on ICE"

Nah, the Dems will continue harping on affordability. They will blame Trump for continuing to make everything unaffordable for the Middle Class and their Free Shit Army. Because Trump will veto the Dems budget/continuing resolution bills that are chock-full of free stuff and subsidies for everything, not just Obamacare premiums. Along with tax increases on the 'wealthy'.

The Dems have nothing to lose promising 'affordability' relief through legislation then blaming Trump for not signing their 'affordability' bills for the next two years. Each bill sent to Trump will contain a load of poison pills. Abolish ICE, for starters. Cut the defense budget to stop the Iran war. Refund everything Trump defunded or reduced its budget.

Posted by: Gref at November 09, 2026 08:36 AM (5rh/l)

116 Not just Rs didn't do sh&t, but purposely didn't care to do sh&t...lack of care is the killer...

It's not like Thune took the votes, stayed in the Senate, gave speeches about staying until Americans were helped...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:30 AM (Gb7+b)

Don't get me started. The fkng excuses.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:37 AM (AKptf)

117 Yes Jackstraw. Hard to believe, huh? A country full of people who hate the USA

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 08:37 AM (GSpTB)

118 114 So the Hispanic vote which hit a historic high for Trump in 2024 completely flipped on him in 2026 when he did exactly what he said he as going to do?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:36 AM (viF8m)

Yes, b/c the media stoked fear daily for them...and Dems made the process messier and uglier than it needed to be to their own electoral benefit...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:37 AM (Gb7+b)

119 Amnesty is a killer to 2028 Rs...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:33 AM (Gb7+b)

I sincerely doubt Trump will do an amnesty unless he gets something in return first like ritual seppuku from every elected D.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:37 AM (RZ+Ww)

120 Amnesty is a killer to 2028 Rs...

Amnesty and "Cheap Labor" works!

See how well it worked for Rome?

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:37 AM (nAS9C)

121 @SirBy|Holte
My Lyft driver to the airport said "OMG did you see the Muslims marching against us today?"
ME: "Against who."
HER: "They staged a bicycle boycott ride against Jewish-owned restaurants and businesses."
ME: "Well didn't you vote democrat?"
HER: "Of course."
ME: "Well if you voted democrat, you voted for that."
HER: "Hell no, I voted against Trump's war."
ME: "That's what they told you. Part of that was Muslims taking over. If you voted democrat you voted for your own demise. We've been telling you that for years."
She shut up.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:37 AM (f4LHe)

122 It wasn't like armed agents were storming into kindergarten classes and dragging out screaming and crying kids.

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In my town, cops coordinate with ICE.

And they *did* do this. Not "storming in," but waiting politely in the front office to take custody after mommy and daddy got popped.

Teachers cried. Wah. Wah. Wah. I'm always moved by teachers who bitch and whine about things. Wait, scratch that, I hate teachers even more than border jumping illegals.

And I'm seeing way, way fewer Aztecs around my stores and schools as a result.

I like this. I voted for this.

It's too bad for the children that daddy was in a drug gang. Not.

These little hombres would have just joined the same gang a few years later, and their little chiquitas would be cranking out new gang members too.

It's not complicated. Go home willingly or otherwise.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 08:38 AM (BI5O2)

123 Get out of Ukraine and cut a deal with Russia. Our enemy is the EUies. Maybe move the Army to Poland.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 09, 2026 08:38 AM (Wp1X1)

124 'No woman wants a loser who can't get a job"

Apparently you are not familiar with the baby mama denizens of the city closest to me.
--
Unemployed Chad, who states that he's not even looking for a job explicitly in his bio, but is attractive and 6 ft+, gets more likes on Tinder than Average Looking Man.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 08:40 AM (Cw3N8)

125 And when they lose their jerbs to lower paid illegals, Ima point and laugh.
I don't want to hear one fucking whine from a dem voter.


Or when they can't afford a mobile data plan because they voted to stop building the data centers that are behind every function of a mobile since 4G LTE.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:40 AM (nAS9C)

126 >> Yes Jackstraw. Hard to believe, huh? A country full of people who hate the USA

Or it could be that a shitload of new voters were added and organized and turned out by Democrats.

Abbott got the slightly more votes in this past election than he did in 2022 when he won by over 900,000 votes. This election lost by 600,000.

Abbott did not lose support, Democrats gained an enormous amount of votes. Where did they come from and who replaced all the Hispanics that supposedly fled from Abbott?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:40 AM (viF8m)

127 “I know I shouldn’t say that but, it’s just a feeling,” Chappelle continued. “I didn’t ask to feel this way. I just be driving around like, ‘why am I in such a good mood? Oh!'”
Video: Dave Chappelle Tells Madison Square Garden Crowd ‘I Feel Better’ ‘Ever Since Charlie Kirk Got Murdered’


*big Sally Field smile*

You hate me!

You really hate me!!!

Well, I don't really think about Ol' Chappy but he has guaranteed that I'll never watch anything with him in it again.

He has been exorcised from my viewing pleasure.

Idiot.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 08:41 AM (YSUhf)

128 Unemployed Chad, who states that he's not even looking for a job explicitly in his bio, but is attractive and 6 ft+, gets more likes on Tinder than Average Looking Man.

Bring back Hunger as a motivation to work!

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:41 AM (nAS9C)

129 one thing that came up bit in surveys is tariffs. I recall a conversation I had with some business owner who was supper giddy about moving his production to China, for cheap labor. Giddy of all the money he was gonna make. There are of course others who got super rich hiring illegals, construction. SO they got hit from 3 sides - cheap labor no longer available, chinese cheap materials no longer available, and rates high so cannot borrow. Some would say, hey should no hire illegals, should not move production to China. But people have been doing it for such a long time they don;t know any way.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:41 AM (AKptf)

130 Internet reacts as 20-year-old claims her 'body count' is over 1,000

A 20-year-old woman known as Jackie from Long Island has gone viral after claiming she has a "body count" of (meaning she has had sex with) 1,572 people — and the internet has not held back its reactions.

Key Takeaways:

In an interview for The Dating Blind Show, Jackie said she has a "body count" of 1,572.
She is 20 years old and said she began having sex at age 18. If she is being honest about her tally, that would amount to an average of more than two different sex partners every day.
While this seems unlikely, the comment sparked reactions that were largely unfavorable, in a culture that also mocks the idea of sexual restraint.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:42 AM (RHGPo)

131 *any other way

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:42 AM (AKptf)

132 >> Yes Jackstraw. Hard to believe, huh? A country full of people who hate the USA

Or it could be that a shitload of new voters were added and organized and turned out by Democrats"

Like I said, people who hate the USA

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 08:42 AM (n6TWU)

133 The midterms were just another affirmation of HL Mencken’s famous quote: Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

I’m sure there was some cheating but by and large this was voter retardation writ large

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 08:42 AM (LQ1/y)

134 It's more likely Republicans offerer the same old slimy GOP while Dems gave out nothing but hypertargeted "messaging" and propaganda.

Look at the GOP candidates across the country and tell me how it has "changed". Mike Roger's looks straight out of CIA central casting, Bush in a blonde wig.

It is not enough to convince voters, when people can sense the guy doesn't care about them. Not when they are up against charismatic plants everywhere.

Also I had noticed and pointed out the Dems picked a message and ran it national. But local. "Michigan is not for sale." "Massachusetts is not for sale."

It doesn't mean shit - and in fact it's a lie - but it SOUNDS good. It's basically "America First" but on the state level.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:42 AM (RZ+Ww)

135 126 >> Yes Jackstraw. Hard to believe, huh? A country full of people who hate the USA

Or it could be that a shitload of new voters were added and organized and turned out by Democrats.

Abbott got the slightly more votes in this past election than he did in 2022 when he won by over 900,000 votes. This election lost by 600,000.

Abbott did not lose support, Democrats gained an enormous amount of votes. Where did they come from and who replaced all the Hispanics that supposedly fled from Abbott?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:40 AM (viF8m)

Looking at 2022 is flawed...Rs turned out like the Dems did this time b/c of hatred of Biden...

Everyone comparing to 2022 is fooling themselves...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 09, 2026 08:42 AM (Gb7+b)

136 "The Republicans never figured out what we were doing,” Jones said. He described tens of thousands of “online humans, not bots” working in concert so that everywhere Americans looked, the conversation was about kitchen-table pain tied positively to Democrats and negatively to the GOP."

"The claimed reach is staggering: 32.5 million Instagram hits every day, 88.8 million on X, and 185 million on Facebook. Jones called it the most effective online organizing campaign of the cycle and noted that he had been given permission to reveal it."

"This was not organic outrage bubbling up from grocery aisles. It was industrial-scale narrative manufacturing."

I could see this happening all across social media, which is why I felt that we were going to lose Texas and all the toss up Senate seats.
I don't know how we combat this going forward. We lost the irreplaceable Charlie Kirk and that made a huge difference in why we lost.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 08:43 AM (wzaBj)

137 In an interview for The Dating Blind Show, Jackie said she has a "body count" of 1,572.

She is 20 years old and said she began having sex at age 18. If she is being honest about her tally, that would amount to an average of more than two different sex partners every day.

While this seems unlikely, the comment sparked reactions that were largely unfavorable, in a culture that also mocks the idea of sexual restraint.
Posted by: SMOD


Cornell 7 every weekend. Cooter looks like a pile of Arby's roast beef.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 08:43 AM (dylrg)

138 Mornin', Horde.

It's Monday. I have coffee. That's all I got for now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 08:43 AM (bFu5X)

139 Russia is now losing soldiers, equivalent to US losses in 8 years of VietNam, every 1.5-2.0 months

Casualties in VietNam had 25-30% dead
Casualties in Ukraine are 60-70% dead

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:44 AM (RHGPo)

140 @110 Nova Local- amnesty is a killer to 2028 R’s? Hopefully we can convince the R’s that that is true. If Trump doesn’t make an amnesty deal the rest of the R’s will certainly try. Maybe I’ve misunderstood your comment.

Posted by: JROD at November 09, 2026 08:44 AM (bB0yW)

141 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at November 09, 2026 08:44 AM (2Ez/1)

142 Who is Jackie having sex with if we are still surrounded by all the angry incels online?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 08:45 AM (enNUy)

143 I could see this happening all across social media, which is why I felt that we were going to lose Texas and all the toss up Senate seats.

I don't know how we combat this going forward. We lost the irreplaceable Charlie Kirk and that made a huge difference in why we lost.
Posted by: redridinghood


We don't. We are at the Let It Burn stage.


Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 08:45 AM (dylrg)

144 Cornell 7 every weekend. Cooter looks like a pile of Arby's roast beef.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 08:43 AM (dylrg)

Leave me outta this!

Posted by: Hope Solo,I have the meat! at November 09, 2026 08:46 AM (woKdw)

145 You Thought Woke Was Dead?

Never. It's like how one cancer cell can regenerate and kill again.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 08:46 AM (RjOoY)

146 All you had to do was listen to Sayed’s victory speech. Usually a candidate, especially a senate candidate gives a speech about America. How was a speech to America about their jihad on our republic. They will now try to destroy it from the inside out.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 09, 2026 08:46 AM (TmQh+)

147 In a ruling issued Friday, November 6, U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan, a Bill Clinton appointee, sided with federal immigration authorities in their months-long battle with New York City over records involving residents of the Bruckner Boulevard homeless shelter in Mott Haven.

The decision clears the way for ICE to obtain the names and dates of birth of certain male shelter residents with serious criminal histories, subject to screening by a court-appointed special master.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:47 AM (RHGPo)

148 >>I’m sure there was some cheating but by and large this was voter retardation writ large

Exactly. If you look at the video I posted above you can hear directly from the people who spent close to $1 billion over the last year to add millions of new leftist voters all across the US.

A network of very well funded NGOs worked to change the electorate and they did. Republican turnout overall was slightly up for a midterm. Democrats hit presidential election numbers. They are playing a different game than we are and it's not about any one issue. It's about finding new voters, getting them registered and getting their votes one way or another.

It certainly helps the left that we have insecure elections with mail in ballots, no ID in certain areas and no requirement to even prove you're a citizen to register, even in Texas.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:47 AM (viF8m)

149 Some idiots are yammering about Iran and Hegseth, but Trump's approval started going down after with "Liberation Day" - tariffs. But...as a leader you have to make tough choices. We can take the house and senate back, we cannot throw off China's yoke and systemic , unbridled corruption of our system without the tariffs, and we could not have Durka DUrka Jihad that's been killing our foreign policy and our people for 50 years have nukes.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:47 AM (AKptf)

150 - "Forget rapture...American religion escapism"

What you are describing is the pre-trib view of the rapture.
But to deny what 1Thess 4:16-17, 1Cor 15:51-52, Matt 24:30-31 clearly describe... and John sees the result in Rev 7:9-17.

Try placing the rapture in the proper place, at some point during the 2nd half of Daniel's 70th week. To cut short the time of great tribulation for the sake of the elect. On the same day that the day of the LORD begins.
Cont...

Posted by: TeeJ at November 09, 2026 08:47 AM (/HR0+)

151 SMOD

Government culling of undesirables. The Slavs around Moscow and St. Petersburg do not go to the front lines.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 08:48 AM (u82oZ)

152 142 Who is Jackie having sex with if we are still surrounded by all the angry incels online?
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 08:45 AM

The Paolo, he is, how you say, here to help.

Posted by: The Paolo at November 09, 2026 08:48 AM (2Ez/1)

153 While this seems unlikely, the comment sparked reactions that were largely unfavorable, in a culture that also mocks the idea of sexual restraint.
Posted by: SMOD


Women like that try "settling down" in their 30s and complain how good men want nothing to do with them.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 08:48 AM (RjOoY)

154 Hey! Would you guys stop ruining Arby’s roast beef sandwiches for me.

Posted by: JROD at November 09, 2026 08:48 AM (bB0yW)

155 144 I could see this happening all across social media, which is why I felt that we were going to lose Texas and all the toss up Senate seats.


I never saw it coming... I thought we would lose the House by a few seats , but never the Senate and Texas

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 08:48 AM (+gK6I)

156 It's not retarded voters. It's just turnout. Democrats are always retarded, but they were extremely highly motivated because of the shocking return of their bete orange, which they simply couldn't believe was real.

Republican turnout was tepid, because the GOP betrayed them again - which they could certainly believe was all too real.

People want something blame besides Republicans. Trump. Dumb voters. Cheating. Iran. ICE enforcement. Blah blah blah.

But the problem is Republicans. This Party is a heavy chain on a drowning man.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 08:48 AM (BI5O2)

157 Mournin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 08:49 AM (77rzZ)

158 So the Hispanic vote which hit a historic high for Trump in 2024 completely flipped on him in 2026 when he did exactly what he said he as going to do?
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Exactly.

Exit polls show "affordability" was the top issue for 57% of Hispanics.
They can be won back, just as easily as they were lost.

Here are Gina's top 3 priorities:
1) A $1500 "rebate" check, draining the Rainy Day Fund--that she has to get past a 19-12 senate
2) Expanding Medicare for the poor; that she has to get past the Texas senate.
3) pause all new data center permits

More to the point: People are going to find out just how weak the TX gov is.
And that Gina can't deliver on a single thing she promised.
And all the border sheriffs have already signed ICE coop agreements--she can't stop that.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 08:50 AM (Cw3N8)

159 I don't know, the Cali GOP congressional delegation has been wiped out, I don't think the GOP is coming back from that.

In fact, the GOP is largely being wiped out in Donks states and losing strength in so-called Red states, with a few exceptions.

We are facing down a decade just to get back to what we had a week ago, which was a knife edge.

Essentially the US has decided socialism aint so bad after all, and installed some of the most evil and f***d up anti-semites and racists to install it.

We're in a tight spot.

And I don't see anyway out of it in the short term.

And if a donk president gets elected, they could potentially have 3-4 SCOTUS picks.

That's an ELE right there.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 08:50 AM (XV/Pl)

160 By gaming the system the Dems won't have to abolish the electoral college.

Posted by: davidt at November 09, 2026 08:50 AM (Q+gd/)

161 Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 07:43 AM (AKptf)

Bet he will get his clearance.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:50 AM (RZ+Ww)

162 The Dems have nothing to lose promising 'affordability' relief through legislation then blaming Trump for not signing their 'affordability' bills for the next two years.

⇑ ⇑ THIS ⇑ ⇑

Notice the framing. People are profoundly stupid and can only think in terms of gods and kings. There aren't 535 members of Congress and 9 jurists on the Supreme Court, and there aren't 50 states with their own executive, legislative and judicial branches, and there aren't thousands of counties/parishes with their own replicas, nor the myriad of NGOs, agencies and regulatory institutions — all that their retarded brains can handle is centralizing all of their woes upon a sole central figure.

So no matter how the tens of thousands of malevolent politicians, lobbyists, staffers, bureaucrats, judges, magistrates and paper pushers act, no matter what they do, only the bad is magnified if the god is a Republican and only the alleged good is exalted if the god is a Democrat.

So naturally, darkness and evil will descend upon the earth in the form of Demonic Party activism, and the retards will simply agree that the god in the White House is all to blame.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 08:51 AM (xE0sV)

163
I've never asked for constituent services from a Michigan Senator, so going to the CIA or Muslim Brotherhood for them now won't be a problem.

Posted by: Auspex at November 09, 2026 08:51 AM (Y8DZL)

164 With demographics in Texas, I'm not sure how turning blue didn't happen earlier. The entire south will turn blue.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 08:51 AM (enNUy)

165 What's an ELE?

Posted by: I gotta ask at November 09, 2026 08:52 AM (2Ez/1)

166 What's an ELE?

Posted by: I gotta ask at November 09, 2026 08:52 AM (2Ez/1)

Extinction Level Event or so I surmised

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:53 AM (RZ+Ww)

167 160 And if a donk president gets elected, they could potentially have 3-4 SCOTUS picks.

Thomas and Alito should have retired while Trump could have replaced tham. We're going to end up with two RBG situations.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 08:53 AM (2Drhq)

168 BabylonBee: Promises Kept: Democrats Deliver On Affordability By
Making Stocks Way Cheaper

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:53 AM (f4LHe)

169 Affordability is a feeling, not a fact.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 08:53 AM (2Ez/1)

170 - Cont...

I often see you hammering the incorrect view and incorrect view on dispensationalism, rightly so. No such things as "the tribulation" or the "church age.

However "this present, evil age" and the "Kingdom age to come are absolutely Biblical.

Maybe you'd care to let us in on what your prophetic view is?

Posted by: TeeJ at November 09, 2026 08:54 AM (/HR0+)

171 I've (and a few others) have been talking about a massive problem in Texas for most of the year. The reaction was "nothing will happen". I imagine this attitude was very widespread on the R side in Texas. But Trump knew things were troubling, that is why he had an unprecedented mid-Term convention in TX and held rallies there multiple times. But he cannot do everything, it is up to politicos in TX to do the actual work. But maybe they were too busy cruising on the money they got from all the tech companies moving in, to pay attention.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:54 AM (AKptf)

172 Abbott did not lose support, Democrats gained an enormous amount of votes. Where did they come from and who replaced all the Hispanics that supposedly fled from Abbott?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:40 AM (viF8m)

First a reminder - in 2026 Trump received 6.4 million votes in Texas. In 2024 Abbot only got 4.4 million. 2 million Texas Trump voters either changed parties or stayed home. Texas Hispanic voters went at least 50/50 for Trump in 24. This time they went about 75/25 for Hinojoza.

Also:

1. The Biden Admin. naturalized about 3 million aliens from 2021 to 2024. Add them to the post-2020 eligible voter pool.

2. Every year (nationally) about 4 million 17 year olds turn 18. Math says that since Trump was first elected in 2016, that's somewhere around 40 million new potential voters.

3. Trump received 46% of the vote from 18-29 year olds in 2024.

4. Last Tuesday that demographic voted 31% for GOP candidates. (Nationally)

It's not hard to find the shift in the vote from 2024 to 2026.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 08:54 AM (dJgiD)

173 168 What's an ELE?

Posted by: I gotta ask at November 09, 2026 08:52 AM (2Ez/1)

Extinction Level Event or so I surmised
Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 08:53 AM

Oh. Now you tell us.

Posted by: The Dinosaurs at November 09, 2026 08:54 AM (2Ez/1)

174 Western Lensman @WesternLensman

Lizzy Warren says if you've been "cheating" Americans, get ready for "serious investigations."

She's asked who specifically she's talking about.

"Anyone who's been cheating. That's what investigations are all about."

Translation: We have no idea if any crimes have been committed by our list of targets, but we'll be digging hard to try to find some. (And if we can't find any, we'll just invent some.)

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:57 AM (RHGPo)

175 The troll's monumental lack of self-awareness is amusing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 08:57 AM (RIvkX)

176 Trump is executing the Boomer Gotterdammerung: amnesty to illegals, inflated asset prices, and forever war in the Middle East.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 09, 2026 08:58 AM (qwx/I)

177 We don't. We are at the Let It Burn stage.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 08:45 AM (dylrg)
******
Thomas Massie is probably going to run 3rd party just to take votes from the Republicans.

And Tucker is laughing with his maniacal laugh as he is planning on forming an America First party.

And Nick Fuentes sent out a tweet on Election Day that told everyone to go out and vote for the Democrats.

These are some of the racist saboteurs that enjoy playing puppet master. Their stupid, ignorant followers don't know they are being played.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 08:59 AM (wzaBj)

178 Trump is executing the Boomer Gotterdammerung: amnesty to illegals, inflated asset prices, and forever war in the Middle East.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 09, 2026 08:58 AM (qwx/I)

funny forever war where no one died in 7 months

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 08:59 AM (AKptf)

179 This woman gets it.

>>@DataRepublican
·
3m
>>Stop worrying about who inherits the Republican party or will run in 2028 or the "messaging"

>>We need to think structurally

Worrying about messaging is fighting the last war. We need to build a massive registering and turnout machine like the left has done. Leftists don't give a shit about messaging. They elected a Muslim in Michigan that wants Sharia, just what leftist women who whine incessantly about Republican forcing them to be Handmaidens, want.

We need to stop paying consultants and focus on turnout and equal the hundreds of millions the left spends on it. That's what wins now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 08:59 AM (viF8m)

180 171 Affordability is a feeling, not a fact.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 08:53 AM (2Ez/1)


Exactly. When the Democrats tell their female base life is unaffordable for them, reinforced by the lapdog media and social media endlessly running sob stories about women who can't afford new dresses and shoes, or school supplies for their kids, or the latest iPhone, the Dems win the affordability feelz game.

Posted by: Gref at November 09, 2026 08:59 AM (5rh/l)

181 DataRepublican (small r)

You [ Mary Peltola ] have ruined the credibility of ranked choice voting for all time. The system that all the institutions are trying to push on us as the fairest system and helps resolve polarization.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:59 AM (RHGPo)

182 And if a donk president gets elected, they could potentially have 3-4 SCOTUS picks

-------

When. When the Dem gets elected.

Absent Trump, the GOP has nothing to offer anyone. Democrats win everything by default, as intended by the GOP.

Trump was never supposed to happen. None of this was supposed to happen.

In 2028, we'll get exactly what we were supposed to get in 2016.

So it's time to start thinking about, discussing, and pursuing other solutions to the problem, because elections ain't it.

And I'm not enthusiastic about being the bugs in the bowl (D)racula feeds to (R)enfield, TYVM.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 09:00 AM (BI5O2)

183 ******
Thomas Massie is probably going to run 3rd party just to take votes from the Republicans.


We can play that game too....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:00 AM (+gK6I)

184 Let's not discount the massive woke reich online campaign against Trump and useful idiots who participated.

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 09:00 AM (AKptf)

185 Try placing the rapture in the proper place, at some point during the 2nd half of Daniel's 70th week

Chiliasm is heretical.

The very idea that the King/Priest of the order of Melchizedek would be that of a temporal rather than of a spiritual kingdom is to essentially reject the book of Hebrews.

The idea of the Messiah making blood animal sacrifices to Himself in the HoH in a Temple built with human hands is an abomination.

For those reasons alone, any Millennial imagined state is one that is in violence with the bulk of scripture, no matter how bad one wants to take a single Greek word and build an entire eschatology on it.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 09:01 AM (nCgQz)

186 Tom Servo

I do get it. A long-range plan, well funded. The Left used multiple angles of attack. And won.

The GOPe was easily out-worked, out-thought, and unwilling to stop the corruption.

America remains in our hearts. But the GOPe is not there anymore.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 09:01 AM (u82oZ)

187 Tom Servo

TLR "Bad Luck."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 09:02 AM (u82oZ)

188 Whoops.

France has officially passed a groundbreaking law targeting global data traffic! Lawmakers voted in favor of a new digital infrastructure tax, approving a levy of roughly 6 cents per gigabyte on all data transmitted into the country.

Designed to force tech giants to contribute to local network maintenance and telecom infrastructure, the new measure will hit bandwidth-heavy services hardest. Streaming platforms, cloud providers, and search engines like Netflix, Google, and Meta could face combined costs running into hundreds of millions of dollars annually. While supporters argue the tax creates a fairer digital economy, critics warn companies may pass these extra expenses directly to subscribers through higher monthly fees.


https://tinyurl.com/3ejts3pt

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:02 AM (dylrg)

189 >>It's not hard to find the shift in the vote from 2024 to 2026.

So where did the new voted come from that gave Abbott a slightly greater vote this year?

There's another way for percent of votes of a certain demographic to go down other than flipping. Additional votes of the same demographic going to the other candidate does the same thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 09:02 AM (viF8m)

190
Glancing over the internet, and the clicks upstairs, and reading Insty- I see nothing but Democrat insanity.

What with Ol' Sloppy 'Gina in Texas already murdering the great Texas economy by forcing Musk to close his Gigafactory production. (Goodbye jobs!), to Georgia new let's make insurance ruinously expensive for the average folk, to law fare, to unconstitutional laws elevating islam in NJ,

I see nothing regarding "affordability".

All I see is New and Improved Turbo-Biden Inflation and Governance coming down the pike. Initially, in states who voted these idiots into office.

Yeah, there may have been cheating. However, the GOPe also made sure there was nothing to vote for.

I believe with Democrat Turbo-Inflation and all the creepy insanity and violence that we could be competitive in '28.

I suppose right now is the time to start looking around for new, truly conservative, attractive, young candidates to primary out grimy, greasy, grift-sodden GOPe slugs like Thune out of office.

We'll see.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:03 AM (YSUhf)

191 All evil flows out of washington dc with their fake money propping everything up. Look around at all the idiots whose happiness and well being depends on which way the money from the federal government is farted.

Abolish washington dc.

Posted by: Abolish The Evil at November 09, 2026 09:03 AM (woKdw)

192 As has been pointed out, a million anchor babies become voting citizens every year.

And the Democrats targeted them heavily.

But what about the millions more young men who become voting citizens every year?
What message did Republicans offer them?
That Epstein list you wanted? No.
That DOGE you were excited about? Sorry.
Gas prices? Housing? Jobs? No, no and no.

But here's more money for waitresses. And here's more money for the olds. And here's some money for those rich enough to buy a house or start a family. And the stock market is really booming if you'd care to buy some stocks.

The Dems blamed their privilege.
The Republicans told them to "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 09:03 AM (Cw3N8)

193 175 Western Lensman @WesternLensman

Lizzy Warren says if you've been "cheating" Americans, get ready for "serious investigations."

She's asked who specifically she's talking about.

"Anyone who's been cheating. That's what investigations are all about."

Translation: We have no idea if any crimes have been committed by our list of targets, but we'll be digging hard to try to find some. (And if we can't find any, we'll just invent some.)

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:57 AM (RHGPo)


Perjury traps between sworn depositions to committees behind closed doors and open hearings. Whistleblower accusations. Spending FedGov money on personal travel, purchases, parties, etc.

Posted by: Gref at November 09, 2026 09:03 AM (5rh/l)

194 Local headline running cover for dems: "Voters demanded economic relief. Trump and democrats face tough choices on how to deliver." No, babe, the retards voted for the dems to fix everything so the dems need to get chop chopping.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 09:03 AM (enNUy)

195
I never saw it coming... I thought we would lose the House by a few seats , but never the Senate and Texas
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 08:48 AM (+gK6I)

I didn’t see it coming. I kept saying and thinking it was impossible for Gina to win since she wasn’t even running any campaign that I could see.
What I did not know was that she was running a massive campaign on Spanish language media that in retrospect was incredibly effective. None of us Anglos knew about this or even saw it coming, including Abbot and Paxton. So none of them ever responded , allowing the claims of mass race based government persecution to stand unchallenged. A massive mistake on our part.

Add to that the fact that Abbot did almost no campaigning at all and apparently just assumed he’d be fine. He never should have run for a 4th term.

We thought the important race was Paxton vs Talerico. That was just the sideshow. The important race was Gina vs Abbot, and she kicked his ass and dragged all of her allies along with her.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 09:05 AM (dJgiD)

196 And I thought I was a pessimist....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:05 AM (+gK6I)

197 I suppose right now is the time to start looking around for new, truly conservative, attractive, young candidates to primary out grimy, greasy, grift-sodden GOPe slugs like Thune out of office.
--
Another note on Hispanics:
Why is Javier Mille and Bukele so popular in South America?

They are selling what Democrats can't and Republicans won't.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 09:06 AM (Cw3N8)

198 Jennifer Welch’s Podcast Loses Sponsors After Laughing at ‘Joke’ About Charlie Kirk’s Murder

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Relax. They've apologized.

https://tinyurl.com/2namdf4t

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 09:06 AM (ndZc7)

199 Add to that the fact that Abbot did almost no campaigning at all and apparently just assumed he’d be fine. He never should have run for a 4th term.

==

He did not do a single debate with her, right ?

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 09:08 AM (AKptf)

200 Basically, then donks are going to make everything "more affordable" by doing what they always, shotgunning money and making the magic money machines go brrrappppppppappap.

We're going to be at 50T before 2028 before these dopes are done.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 09:08 AM (XV/Pl)

201 The GOPe clearly is lost . They think that after Trump they'll go back to the DC Uniparty after Trump leaves office. They simply can't understand that their "good friends across the aisle":are dying off or being forced out by lunatics

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 09:08 AM (FroOw)

202 For fifty years, Democrats have played the "replacement voter" game, and it worked. Hell, the Democrat Party has been counting on immigrant voters for hundreds of years, but the huge influx over the Bush-Obama-Biden regimes really paid off in this election.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 09:08 AM (f3y3p)

203 - @my 172
And that's why with one finger, phone typing...
1st incorrect view,,, rapture.

Posted by: TeeJ at November 09, 2026 09:08 AM (/HR0+)

204 We need to stop paying consultants and focus on turnout and equal the hundreds of millions the left spends on it. That's what wins now.

Interesting. The Left uses turn-out too. They turn out the dead, illegals, the dementia riddled seniors, felons, cartoon characters, people who have moved years ago.

You will not beat the Left at the numbers game when you restrict yourself to rules that guarantee you win. They play by the blood sport rules of BAMN and will win because the will to power is greater at this game than your dead rules of honor.

This is no longer a Constitutional Republic filled with honorable and self controlled people, its a free-for-all knife fight where there are no rules, only power.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 09:10 AM (a6PrB)

205 “ You will be secure, because there is hope; you will look about you and take your rest in safety.”

Job 11:18

Posted by: Marcus T at November 09, 2026 09:10 AM (0ZmKh)

206 "While supporters argue the tax creates a fairer digital economy, critics warn companies may pass these extra expenses directly to subscribers through higher monthly fees."

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:02 AM

Fairer than what?

Posted by: I gotta ask at November 09, 2026 09:10 AM (2Ez/1)

207 Democrats plan to push clean energy to lower bills and challenge Trump’s fossil fuel agenda

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That's thinking outside the box of common sense!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 09:10 AM (ndZc7)

208 yeah, BTW, how was Musk's 1/2 billion spent exactly ??

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 09:10 AM (AKptf)

209 "But, sir, I am not a Jew."
- Adam Harris, probably

Posted by: tevildo at November 09, 2026 09:11 AM (aVXsd)

210 Texas Democrat Vows Taxpayer Voucher Money for Islamic Schools,…

I can recall Democrats being all over Catholic schools with separation of church and state, but they seem to have developed amnesia.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 09:11 AM (RHGPo)

211 We're also going to lose a senate seat in Alaska as well as the Governorship.

The nation apparently is so disenchanted with Trump and Republicans that they have pointed a gun directly at their faces.

We've lost Texas and Alaska.

Let that sink in.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 09:11 AM (XV/Pl)

212 212 We're also going to lose a senate seat in Alaska as well as the Governorship.

The nation apparently is so disenchanted with Trump and Republicans that they have pointed a gun directly at their faces.

We've lost Texas and Alaska.


No sugar coating this...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:12 AM (+gK6I)

213 >> For fifty years, Democrats have played the "replacement voter" game, and it worked. Hell, the Democrat Party has been counting on immigrant voters for hundreds of years, but the huge influx over the Bush-Obama-Biden regimes really paid off in this election.

The fastest growing sub-group right now is the DSA. They are rapidly taking over the Democrat Party. And they aren't doing it by flipping Old Timey establishment Dems, they are doing it by bringing in a whole new bunch of voters. That's who NYC got Mamdani. That's how Michigan got Abdul. They will vote for the radical in the primary and then whomever has a D behind their name in the general.

If we want to win going forward we've got to start spending time and money finding our own new voters.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 09:12 AM (viF8m)

214
So where did the new voted come from that gave Abbott a slightly greater vote this year?”

Anglo population is growing at a steady level.

But Hispanic population is growing at an exponential level.

Just a reminder of 2026 Texas population from the US Census Bureau:

Hispanic/Latino: 41.7%
White/Non-Hispanic: 37%
Black/Asian/Other: 21%

We’ve talked about the Great Replacement Theory, well it’s over. It happened.



Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 09:13 AM (dJgiD)

215 This isn't the first time those witches danced on Kirk's grave. They were doing that quite literally the day after it happened. I wonder why sponsors suddenly """care""" now.

And Chapelle? Well, I saw that last special of his, and damn, was it ever a letdown. The prior two were so-so, but this one just sucked (except for the John McCain bashing, which is always good).

I think he's hoping to gin up clapter, or just draw enough fire to blame his fading presence on a white man's witch hunt. I think that's a strategic business move, IOW.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 09:13 AM (BI5O2)

216 There’s an enormous difference between giving children independence and giving them responsibilities they aren’t equipped to handle.
===========
My daughters had the good luck to be educated by Sacred Heart as children and they have a concept called "wise freedom", where young kids can screw up so long as they learn to deal with the consequences.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 09:13 AM (qO8RD)

217 We're also going to lose a senate seat in Alaska as well as the Governorship.

The nation apparently is so disenchanted with Trump and Republicans that they have pointed a gun directly at their faces.

We've lost Texas and Alaska.

Let that sink in.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


Fine.
We've passed Let It Burn and we are at Make It Burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:14 AM (dylrg)

218 Don't forget the "separation of Mohammedanism and state" clause in the constitution.

Posted by: The ghost of TJ at November 09, 2026 09:14 AM (2Ez/1)

219 Welch's plastic surgeon has to be a conservative.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 09:15 AM (SN8r1)

220
He did not do a single debate with her, right ?
Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 09:08 AM (AKptf)

Nope. He didn’t even talk about her, he acted like she wasn’t worthy of his notice. He strolled into the campaign thinking he was Goliath, not realizing there was a new David gunning for him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 09:16 AM (dJgiD)

221 This isn't the first time those witches danced on Kirk's grave. They were doing that quite literally the day after it happened. I wonder why sponsors suddenly """care""" now.

And Chapelle? Well, I saw that last special of his, and damn, was it ever a letdown. The prior two were so-so, but this one just sucked (except for the John McCain bashing, which is always good).

I think he's hoping to gin up clapter, or just draw enough fire to blame his fading presence on a white man's witch hunt. I think that's a strategic business move, IOW.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 09:13 AM (BI5O2)



Yep, Ol' Chappy is a has-been, a usetawas, so-

he playing the late/no entertainer career card of Extreme and Obnoxious Progtardism.

Who knows? It may work.


Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:16 AM (YSUhf)

222 Lizzy Warren says if you've been "cheating" Americans, get ready for "serious investigations."

This is revealing. They absolutely hated the SAVE America Act because they rely on vote fraud and by establishing mechanisms that foil many forms of vote fraud would put them at a distinct disadvantage.

What they DO control is the investigation part. So use vote fraud liberally if you are of the Left, and the "investigations" will never happen. Also use the threat of, and the implementation of expensive "investigations" on your enemies regardless if there was any fraud performed on their part.

It is no longer The Process is The Punishment. It is the Process is The Persecution. With demonic prosecutors and "judges" with a singular mind to use the skin-suit of Justice to bankrupt, reputation destroy and incarcerate their political enemies by imagining bogus charges and running their victims through the legal gauntlet, they can talk big about "justice" as they administer the exact opposite.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 09:16 AM (BvPIe)

223 Chapelle is Muslim. He supports Muslim over anything else.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 09:17 AM (enNUy)

224 Gloom, despair, and agony on me.

Posted by: Hee Haw at November 09, 2026 09:17 AM (wVcYX)

225 The only reason that I’m not so concerned about the Muslims is that the Mexicans generally despise them as much as we do, so this temporary alliance won’t hold.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 09:18 AM (dJgiD)

226 Deep dark depression
Excessive misery.

Posted by: Junior Samples at November 09, 2026 09:18 AM (2Ez/1)

227 Michigan gonna get a new state flag now that it's the Arab state of America. Abdul's face will be on it.

Posted by: Wormword at November 09, 2026 09:19 AM (yOcCL)

228 I wonder if TJM is going to be back?

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:20 AM (Gqar8)

229 The fastest growing sub-group right now is the DSA. They are rapidly taking over the Democrat Party. And they aren't doing it by flipping Old Timey establishment Dems, they are doing it by bringing in a whole new bunch of voters. That's who NYC got Mamdani. That's how Michigan got Abdul. They will vote for the radical in the primary and then whomever has a D behind their name in the general.

If we want to win going forward we've got to start spending time and money finding our own new voters.
Posted by: JackStraw


You don't out vote commies. You out end them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:20 AM (dylrg)

230 Do black voters realize they are losing most favored minority status and what will happen? They are voting for their future too.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 09:20 AM (enNUy)

231 I'm trying to come up with something positive to say but I'm coming up empty... Just love your Family and Friends and prepare...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:21 AM (+gK6I)

232 Warren said she wants to go after "cheaters".
I think she really meant "kulaks"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 09:21 AM (FroOw)

233 LIVs: Hey Democrats can you lower gas prices if we elect you?

Dems: Sure (quitely) right after we kill 10% of the country, ban fossil fuels, and give you true communism with no lube

LIVs: Wait what did you say after sure?

Dems: Uh, nothing important don't worry about us. Also, we'll make Trump stop sending mean tweets too!

LIVs: This is exactly what we want...low gas prices and no mean tweets and literally nothing else you Democrats are awesome!

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (sKqQm)

234


*beep*

Posted by: KY Sen. Mitch McConnell at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (wVcYX)

235 232 I'm trying to come up with something positive to say but I'm coming up empty... Just love your Family and Friends and prepare...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:21 AM (+gK6I)

We have been through similar periods before. We go on because there’s no alternative. Circumstances always change.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (Gqar8)

236 "You out end them.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 09:20 AM"

What does that mean, exactly?

Posted by: I gotta ask at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (2Ez/1)

237 @231

>>Do black voters realize they are losing most favored minority status and what will happen?

I think they think that once they get rid of whitey they can pull the same nonsense on hispanics and asians.

They are in for a rude awakening.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (XV/Pl)

238 Especially because in that last special, he did talk about the assassination. He said he didn't like the comparisons to MLK, but it was a scary development, and he understood why people are upset to see a popular leader gunned down by a nobody. Pretty conciliatory, all told, given that he certainly didn't admire the man himself.

Now it's suddenly "fuck him, I'm happy he got popped."

That was a quick turn.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (BI5O2)

239 CaliPost has a pic of Huang's mistress (who's also named Huang.) She's looks nice, but she's no Fang Fang.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (Jr5Lq)

240 If Trump and the Ds pass no stock trading act I will laff really hard. He should lead with that. First legislation ! lol

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 09:23 AM (AKptf)

241 The Republicans told them to "pull yourselves up by your bootstraps."

Because that is how America became great. It was Magic Fucking Dirt. Just exist on it and you are showered with wealth and luxuries of Royalty. You are entitled. This is yours.

Because never, no where in any part of human history did faith, hard work, ingenuity and deferred gratification ever make anyone rise above hand-to-mouth existence.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 09, 2026 09:23 AM (BvPIe)

242 239

Now it's suddenly "fuck him, I'm happy he got popped."

That was a quick turn.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 09:22 AM (BI5O2)

Playing to the crowd. He is a whore.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:24 AM (Gqar8)

243 - CN,,,

So,,, no guts regarding your view? Just name calling like heretic?
Because I take the words written in their most normal, natural, customary meaning?
What kingdom were the disciples asking about at the beginning of Acts? What time period was Isaiah speaking of with swords beaten to plowshares and the lion eating straw like the ox?
And how many times does one thousand years have to be mentioned in Rev 20? Six times in seven verses isn't enough?

Then there's that inconvenient "In my Father house there are many mansions" passage.

But you just go ahead and symbolize all of that away.

Posted by: TeeJ at November 09, 2026 09:24 AM (/HR0+)

244 I have not yet begun to fight!

Posted by: John Paul Thune at November 09, 2026 09:24 AM (6jbIA)

245 Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 08:57 AM (RHGPo)

Actually the translation is Democrats like Warren have been cheating Americans and want the heat off of them.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 09:25 AM (RZ+Ww)

246 That was a quick turn.


I think Chappelle - and probably a lot of "elites" - converted to Islam

either the normal way or the subconscious way (I want to be on the Winning Team)

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 09:25 AM (qBivk)

247 245 I have not yet begun to fight!
Posted by: John Paul Thune at November 09, 2026 09:24 AM (6jbIA)

Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:25 AM (+gK6I)

248 I wonder if TJM is going to be back?
Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:20 AM (Gqar

I hope so. Him and Dave in Fla.

Posted by: Count de Monet has opinions at November 09, 2026 09:25 AM (wVcYX)

249 I wonder if TJM is going to be back?
Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:20 AM (Gqar

I wouldn't blame him if he wasn't. Dude has a psychotic stalker who stomped around here like a lunatic, demanding he stand and be chastised for his bad prediction. I'd probably avoid that nonsense, too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 09:25 AM (BI5O2)

250 Do black voters realize they are losing most favored minority status and what will happen?

The FSA and related Government "worker" block of votes.

Their assumption is their is literally endless money to take from the productive class and its just no politician yet has been willing to take it and further that taking this money will have no impact on its creation.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 09:25 AM (sKqQm)

251 The nation apparently is so disenchanted with Trump and Republicans that they have pointed a gun directly at their faces.

-
Reminds me of Blazing Saddles.

Bart: [low voice] Hold it! Next man makes a move, the n*gg*r gets it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 09:27 AM (ndZc7)

252 250 years was a good run...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:27 AM (+gK6I)

253 Moonbattery has video of the aftermath of Diwali festival in NJ. What a fucking disaster.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 09:27 AM (SN8r1)

254 Digging up a guy and shooting him again is all about Affordabiliy!!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:27 AM (Fi81e)

255 Rep messaging could have been better - explicitly calling out Bidenflation as nothing but government spending and that while Trump stopped further price increases he couldn't lower prices back to pre-Biden levels and a further note more government spending will again increase prices through inflation in a direct proportion.

Cancel college debt? Higher food/energy prices
More welfare spending? Higher food/energy prices
More government healthcare spending? Higher food/energy prices AND healthcare prices

and so on

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 09:27 AM (sKqQm)

256 John Paul Thune

John Paul Jones had his worm-ridden ship sunk underneath him. He boarded and took over the enemy ship.

Thune, you sir, are no John Paul Jones. You sank your own ship in open water 1,000 nautical miles from land.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2026 09:28 AM (u82oZ)

257 250 years was a good run...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:27 AM (+gK6I)
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I said that to my wife this weekend.

A constitutional republic is a good idea, but it's no redeemer.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:28 AM (Fi81e)

258 Looking forward to the art thread

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:29 AM (+gK6I)

259 Dave Chappelle is Muslim?? Didn’t know that

The more I think about this situation the more I decide that we had a great 10 year run and I’m thankful for it. Trump is a once in a hundred years phenomenon… he won twice (three times really) and disrupted and upset the swamp. He did a really effective delaying action. Plus he gets two more years

I might be pretty grim after that or who knows… but I’m thankful for the respite of the last decade

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 09:29 AM (LQ1/y)

260 Digging up a guy and shooting him again is all about Affordabiliy!!
Posted by: Axeman

The Ol' Cromwell Maneuver.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 09:29 AM (SN8r1)

261 The Bushes are nothing like the McCains and Romneys no matter how much you misrepresent their administrations.

They are convenient boogeymen.

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 09:29 AM (OXhw3)

262 I'm trying to come up with something positive to say but I'm coming up empty... Just love your Family and Friends and prepare...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:21 AM (+gK6I)


That's never bad advice regardless. Though I think we'll have opportunities.

The main problem as I see it is that unlike the Dims the Republicans never pull together into a monolith. Already there are a bunch of grifting folk trying to cut their own little slice of conservative pie in service to the Democrats or Our Betters.

The people I feel sorry for are the 29 year olds and above.Wrecking the economy plus Turbo-Biden inflation is just going to crush the retired or about to be retired. So, prepare y'all.

Most of the retired is composed of Boomers...so, I guess the HQ's Anti-Boomer Faction will be leaping for joy at that prospect.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 09:29 AM (YSUhf)

263 Their assumption is their is literally endless money to take from the productive class and its just no politician yet has been willing to take it and further that taking this money will have no impact on its creation.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 09:25 AM (sKqQm)
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Because they have not yet begun to bleed "the rich".

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:30 AM (Fi81e)

264 - @242. CN

And that's the second time I've seen you ignore what scripture says about what our speech is supposed to be like.
After lecturing us on your vast knowledge.

Posted by: TeeJ at November 09, 2026 09:30 AM (/HR0+)

265 Digging up a guy and shooting him again is all about Affordabiliy!!
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:27 AM (Fi81e)

He got off easy if that's all they did.

Posted by: Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell at November 09, 2026 09:31 AM (wVcYX)

266 245 I have not yet begun to fight!
Posted by: John Paul Thune at November 09, 2026 09:24 AM
+++
I regret that I only have 21 years in elected office to contribute to my well padded retirement.

Posted by: J P Thune at November 09, 2026 09:31 AM (2Ez/1)

267 The people I feel sorry for are the 29 year olds and above.Wrecking the economy plus Turbo-Biden inflation is just going to crush the retired or about to be retired. So, prepare y'all.

One of the odder pieces of leftist agit prop I find is the argument that older people got rich unfairly and should have to share and when you break it down its the guy that worked 40 years and has enough money to finally retire should give most of it to a 25 year old that has spent his entire life in school and never actually worked because its not fair the former has more money.

And this get even more insane when you consider most of the 25 year olds demanding this will be in the same place in 40 years if we don't get communism and more immediately is probably set to inherit grand dad's portfolio in a few years as well anyway...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 09:32 AM (sKqQm)

268 Murkowski can now officially join the Dem party since Alaska is now blue

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:32 AM (+gK6I)

269 Maybe in this climate, Tom Daschle can run again and win in SD

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 09:33 AM (LQ1/y)

270 I'm trying to come up with something positive to say but I'm coming up empty... Just love your Family and Friends and prepare...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 09, 2026 09:21 AM (+gK6I)
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I'd mention that the Lord is showing us what he wants to.

The limited view of man did a lot more to create human progress than anybody commandeering the word "PROGRESS!"

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:34 AM (Fi81e)

271 So the stock market is up again, is this all people investing in stocks because they assume the Dems will inflate the shit out of the currency and leave most big businesses alone whatever the hell they are saying publicly?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 09:35 AM (sKqQm)

272 The hags take their apology back.

https://tinyurl.com/4znch4ru

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 09:35 AM (ndZc7)

273 The idea that people have that we deserve blessings is always a problem.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:35 AM (Gqar8)

274 Russell Brand is sentenced to 10 years and six months in prison.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 09:36 AM (wzaBj)

275 272 So the stock market is up again, is this all people investing in stocks because they assume the Dems will inflate the shit out of the currency and leave most big businesses alone whatever the hell they are saying publicly?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 09:35 AM (sKqQm)

Anticipating favorable changes coming their way.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2026 09:36 AM (Gqar8)

276 WTI crude down another 4.7% so far today.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 09:37 AM (Jr5Lq)

277 Nood

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 09:37 AM (SN8r1)

278 Noodus gratia artis

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 09:37 AM (77rzZ)

279 Russell Brand is sentenced to 10 years and six months in prison.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 09, 2026 09:36 AM (wzaBj)
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Based mostly on hearsay, I hear.

As a testament to Brand's claimed faith, he volunteered information that he was told was "incriminating" because it was "the truth".

There will come a day, and it may be partially here, that if the Left wants you in prison, it will get you.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:38 AM (Fi81e)

280 ME Arabs kept crude up to damage Trump?? Say it is not so!

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2026 09:38 AM (AKptf)

281 - @274 tubal

Ain't that the truth! What we deserve is to be cast into outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Thank you God for grace!!! But for that...

Posted by: TeeJ at November 09, 2026 09:38 AM (/HR0+)

282 Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 09:38 AM (Fi81e)

Rape allegations years after they allegedly occurred. Something Trump and Brand have in common.

Posted by: polynikes at November 09, 2026 09:40 AM (OXhw3)

283 Rape allegations years after they allegedly occurred. Something Trump and Brand have in common.
Posted by: polynikes


And if you beat the charges, you'll get charged again until the "correct" verdict is reached.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 09:41 AM (RjOoY)

284 Business adjusts to the new reality.

https://tinyurl.com/95bx7ume

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 09, 2026 09:41 AM (ndZc7)

285 Trump is executing the Boomer Gotterdammerung: amnesty to illegals, inflated asset prices, and forever war in the Middle East.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 09, 2026 08:58 AM (qwx/I)

I voted for Trump to destroy the treacherous GOP. He is exceeding my expectations at every turn.

Posted by: lurky at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM (/xJd3)

286 Sitting at the kitchen table finishing my coffee. I wonder how many laws I've already broken today?

Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2026 09:59 AM (LHPAg)

287 I voted for Trump to destroy the treacherous GOP. He is exceeding my expectations at every turn.
Posted by: lurky at November 09, 2026 09:42 AM


*fistbump*

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 09, 2026 10:01 AM (4NO2D)

288 So Trump is destroying the "treacherous" GOP by being amenable to amnesty (probably in exchange for crumbs), and launching an open ended, expensive, unpopular war against Iran; both of which contribute to inflated asset prices locking out young people from getting a leg up?

Has it ever dawned on you that you can have enemies attacking on more than one front?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 09, 2026 10:12 AM (qwx/I)

289 Good morning. Thanks, J.J.

Pennsylvania's Jewish Governor, who attended a faith-based school and describes himself as living his faith "out loud," - such as when the man off his meds attacked the governor's mansion for about a minute and a half, later becoming an act of anti-Semitism - waits until last Thursday to rather quietly condemn the bike ride protest targeting Jewish-owned businesses as ‘blatant antisemitism’ (Religion News Service and WaPo), and then suddenly louder thanks to the usual msm.

The mayor of Philly did no better.

While Senator John Fetterman (PA-D) is not beloved by the state & national Leftists anymore, he & Senator Dave McCormick (PA-R) waded right in @ first publicity.

Fetterman called it the work of “pro-Hamas, Jew-hating, BDS assholes-on-wheels,” and McCormick stated that the targeting of the specific Jewish businesses “echoes some of the darkest chapters of human history."

Facebook, CBS News, in part, 'Three people were arrested during a pro-Palestinian bicycle protest in Philadelphia on Sunday.' Interesting commentary from interviewees.

But I still don't get everyone's right to protest & counter-protest BUT for MAGA US citizens.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 10:23 AM (NFX2v)

290 I don't know if this was brought up recently on the blog, but I thought it interesting: Pope Leo XIV calls for universal access to health care in Uruguay

Again, Religious News Service, back on November 6th
VATICAN CITY (RNS) – Opening his Latin America trip in Montevideo, Leo drew on his recent illness and a monument dedicated to Uruguay’s national hero to urge leaders to care for those who need it most.
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I never remember anyone discussing El-Sayed's opinions regarding C-19 before the recent elections.

Ford School, University of MI, "El-Sayed explains Michigan’s rising COVID-19 numbers" November 28, 2021

Snapshot, AI Overview: "...advocated for strict public health interventions during the COVID-19 pandemic. This included supporting statewide lockdowns, school closures, restrictions on high-risk venues (such as bars and restaurants), masking, and mass testing. Later in the pandemic, he emphasized science-backed tracking of hospitalizations tied to county vaccination rates, supported vaccine mandates, and framed public health as a collective responsibility tied to social and economic equity."

Ah-ha.

Damn, he had Joe, Tom & Josh, Bernie & AOC at hello!!
--
Good day

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 09, 2026 10:24 AM (NFX2v)

291 Nvidia boss Jensen Huang, whose company produces the world’s most cutting-edge AI chips, admitted to having an affair — after his $4.5 trillion company opened an investigation into his cozy relationship with a suspected Chinese spy.

Is she hot?

Posted by: Eric Fartswell at November 09, 2026 10:49 AM (l3cgK)

292 Anybody else see those two NYPD muslim clowns harass a young woman walking her dog at 3 am in NYC?

https://shorturl.fm/6BTvP

(Instagram link)

Posted by: _Jim at November 09, 2026 10:56 AM (yMSj4)

293 re: "Thomas Massie is probably going to run 3rd party just to take votes from the Republicans."
---------------
Shape shifter -

No two photographs of the man ever look alike ...

Posted by: _Jim at November 09, 2026 12:21 PM (yMSj4)

Daily Tech News 9 November 2026

Top Story



Tech News



Musical Interlude




Disclaimer: This song's just six words long.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 04:00 AM (QNSrI)

2 G'Day everyone
Its Monday again, isn't it?

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 04:06 AM (Ia/+0)

3 whoa

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at November 09, 2026 04:06 AM (evhCq)

4
Is there a single known case of a Chinese spy failing to seduce her mark?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 09, 2026 04:18 AM (XJ22o)

5 It's six words, but not six words long, as it repeats. Like a circle. How long is a circle?

But, it does end, eventually. It may trace the same circular path, but along an orthogonal time axis, making it less of a circle and more like a helical coil.

Or a spring.

..... boing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 04:19 AM (aKiSo)

6 Is there a single known case of a Chinese spy failing to seduce her mark?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 09, 2026 04:18 AM (XJ22o)
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As far as I know, none of them succeeded with me.

It was a cinch!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 04:21 AM (QNSrI)

7 w00t late

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 04:21 AM (odBC9)

8 Buncha no-nooders!

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 04:22 AM (odBC9)

9 I guess we wouldn't know, because "some chinese bint hit on me and I told her to take a hike" has never been considered The News.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 04:22 AM (aKiSo)

10 Its a shame no Chinese spy Fatale ever tempted me, just to test my resolve

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 04:24 AM (Ia/+0)

11 Not sure whether that connected car article is more infuriating or terrifying. Love how we've been left/made completely vulnerable so mfrs can screw us for heated seats. On the bright side, it does not diminish my hatred for Javascript. My next car might need to be a Model T, black.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at November 09, 2026 04:25 AM (evhCq)

12 asmongold has done a little thing on the Nvidia honey-potting
14:45

https://tinyurl.com/3am563rk

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 04:26 AM (odBC9)

13 340 Sen. DAVE MCCORMICK (R-PA) just JOINED the effort to block John Thune's reelection ... now Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, Rick Scott, John Kennedy and McCormick are joined to toss Thune.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 04:34 AM (hPgrk)

14 it should be noted that the sample shown by the company remains unpolished, meaning it still needs to go through some processes to make it suitable for chipmakers.

So it's a "diamond in the rough," as it were.

Posted by: Socratease at November 09, 2026 04:43 AM (PIMUD)

15 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 09, 2026 04:44 AM (sAmhv)

16 Long commute but has WiFi
See you when there

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 04:52 AM (Ia/+0)

17
I'm going to have to check out Venus again this morning. It's rising a little less than two hours before sunrise, and an hour before, it will be high enough to see well, and she's bright as all get out. A beautiful sight to see.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 04:57 AM (w6EFb)

18 Do they still sell those refrigerators that connect to the internet and you can surf the internet while standing in the kitchen. Who would want that, who knows. The Japaneses like to connect everything to the web for some reason, cars, kitty litter trays, dishwasher..you name it.

Posted by: Colin at November 09, 2026 05:00 AM (CiQE7)

19
It's not honey pot it's honey TRAP.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 09, 2026 05:08 AM (XJ22o)

20 G'morning, all!

43.7 degrees out.

Brrrrrr.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 09, 2026 05:10 AM (iMotb)

21 "What is it that I do here? Qwa.... Qual..... Qwaarr...... Qwan..... Qwab.... Qwarbitty..... Qwabitty ....... Qwabitty Ashuance...... yea that......no, that's not it, but I'm getting close!"

- Creed Bratton, NVIDIA V.P. of QA

Posted by: Creed Bratton at November 09, 2026 05:10 AM (hyQrc)

22 "The Japaneses like to connect everything to the web for some reason, cars, kitty litter trays, dishwasher..you name it."

Do NOT go to the adult toy section of Amazon and search for adult toys with wifi or blue tooth.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 09, 2026 05:11 AM (iMotb)

23 19 It's not honey pot it's honey TRAP.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 09, 2026 05:08 AM (XJ22o)

It IS! Mea culpa.

• honeypot: an enticing source of pleasure or reward: massive increases in government purchases became a honeypot for the unscrupulous.

• honeytrap: a stratagem in which irresistible bait is used to lure a victim.

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 05:12 AM (odBC9)

24
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 09, 2026 05:12 AM (AMvSw)

25 Guys, is there some hot chick who is obviously into you? She's a spy. Don't date her.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 05:12 AM (RjOoY)

26 Jenson Huang had a affair with a Chinese spy named Alice Huang. Uh, no relation I assume?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 09, 2026 05:13 AM (sAmhv)

27 Jensen Huang affair with Chinese spy Alice Huang:

"The board says it has no reason to believe sensitive corporate information or U.S. national security was compromised"

Uh huh, sure guys. We all know how these admissions go as time progresses:

1) Nothing was stolen
2) A little bit of info might have been stolen but nothing crucial.
3) Things are worse than we thought. She had access to some sensitive information. We're still auditing.
4) Everything. She (and China) got everything.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 09, 2026 05:14 AM (O7YUW)

28 The temerity of Thune throwing his hat in the ring after presidong over a wipeout of his party, to be minority leader, is a joke.

But sadly, the GOP is a joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 05:19 AM (XV/Pl)

29 Jensen Huang affair with Chinese spy Alice Huang:

Maybe he planted false information?

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 05:22 AM (odBC9)

30 @29

>> Maybe he planted false information?

The only thing he planted was his d***.

Homeboy better of had an iron clad pre-nup with his wife because he’s about to get a lot poorer when her lawyers are done with him.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 09, 2026 05:28 AM (XV/Pl)

31 "Alice Huang, no relation, an executive at the Singaporean data company MegaSpeed, was recruited by the Chinese government to help their efforts to gather intelligence and steer the sale of Nvidia's AI chips to China."

--News Nation
via asmongold

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 05:33 AM (odBC9)

32 The GOPe is not a joke. It is an incredibly well run sabotage machine.
Lovely morning on the island.

Posted by: Accomack at November 09, 2026 05:36 AM (+sNap)

33
Please tell me Alice Huang looked like the Dragon Lady from Terry and the Pirates. Long legs, skirt split up to the waist, cigarette holder, etc. Lie if you must.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 05:37 AM (eRlcH)

34 4
Is there a single known case of a Chinese spy failing to seduce her mark?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 09, 2026 04:18 AM (XJ22o)

When I was relatively new to Houston, this gorgeous Chinese woman in a convertible pulled up to the bus stop and offered me a ride, said she'd take me to the park and ride up north where my car was. Despite being in my 40s, my elementary school "Stranger Danger" education kicked in and I refused, to her visible irritation. I figured being a married man I just didn't need a gorgeous Chinese woman in my life. I later found out that we often rode the same commuter bus, she had recognized me, and just wanted me to ride shotgun so she could use the express lane (a mutually beneficial arrangement, we'd both get home faster, and a fairly common thing for people who rode the commuter buses to do on days someone happened to drive). Every time I saw her on the bus afterward, she stared daggers at me. Probably not a spy though.

Have I mentioned that I am a complete fucking idiot?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 05:39 AM (HFrEr)

35 Have I mentioned that I am a complete fucking idiot?

Well I did read the part about you being married so nah.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 05:41 AM (RjOoY)

36 "Nvidia has lobbied the Trump administration to still allow the sale of some of their advanced chips to China, which many are now scrutinizing in light of this report."

--News Nation
via asmongold

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 05:41 AM (odBC9)

37 34 When I was relatively new to Houston, this gorgeous Chinese woman in a convertible pulled up to the bus stop and offered me a ride, said she'd take me to the park and ride up north where my car was. Despite being in my 40s, my elementary school "Stranger Danger" education kicked in and I refused, to her visible irritation. I figured being a married man I just didn't need a gorgeous Chinese woman in my life. I later found out that we often rode the same commuter bus, she had recognized me, and just wanted me to ride shotgun so she could use the express lane (a mutually beneficial arrangement, we'd both get home faster, and a fairly common thing for people who rode the commuter buses to do on days someone happened to drive). Every time I saw her on the bus afterward, she stared daggers at me. Probably not a spy though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 05:39 AM (HFrEr)

But MAYBE she was a spy!

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 05:44 AM (odBC9)

38 Jenson Huang had a affair with a Chinese spy named Alice Huang. Uh, no relation I assume?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 09, 2026 05:13 AM (sAmhv)
-

I sure hopes it's not his brother.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 05:44 AM (peDzg)

39
Had another horrible dream of a recurring type. I'm relieved when I wake up, but depressed all the same by it. Was my professional career all like this, conducted with ineptitude and inertia?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 05:44 AM (eRlcH)

40 *NewsNation
NewsNationNow.com

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 05:46 AM (odBC9)

41 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at November 09, 2026 05:48 AM (V0/Sp)

42
But MAYBE she was a spy!
Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 05:44 AM (odBC9)


Bear is now addicted to opium and lacks a kidney.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 05:48 AM (eRlcH)

43 Nooga-nooga! (Don't ask me what that means. Not only am I not completely awake, Silver Convention has put me in a "boogie" mood.) Evening and morning, all.

'Tis Monday yet again. But we must always strive to remember:

"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 05:49 AM (56Qyq)

44 >>> Sen. DAVE MCCORMICK (R-PA) just JOINED the effort to block John Thune's reelection

He is just completing a term as minority leader, so maybe give someone else a try.

Posted by: fluffy at November 09, 2026 05:50 AM (V0/Sp)

45 Not sure whether that connected car article is more infuriating or terrifying. Love how we've been left/made completely vulnerable so mfrs can screw us for heated seats. On the bright side, it does not diminish my hatred for Javascript. My next car might need to be a Model T, black.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at November 09, 2026


***
I saw a very nice '66 Impala Super Sport coupe at the car show this weekend. White over red/black, 327 engine, auto floor shifter, aftermarket wheels. To think that those once cost $3500 new, and in the early '80s were probably dirt cheap --!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 05:51 AM (56Qyq)

46
Her Majesty was finally able to get the RV out of the show site and get home just before it got dark. Both of us were worn out from the weekend. I hope it's just a singular occurrence and not a sign of advancing decrepitude.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 05:53 AM (eRlcH)

47 >>> I later found out that we often rode the same commuter bus, she had recognized me, and just wanted me to ride shotgun so she could use the express lane

She could have mentioned all that

Posted by: fluffy at November 09, 2026 05:54 AM (V0/Sp)

48 Guys, is there some hot chick who is obviously into you? She's a spy. Don't date her.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026


***
NOW you tell me!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 05:54 AM (56Qyq)

49
Connecting cars to the internet is just as good an idea as it was with supermarket freezers.

"Your Car is Operated by Comcast"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 05:56 AM (eRlcH)

50 Recently ref-elected Maryland Governor and suspected candidate for Democratic candidate for President in 2028, Wes Moore continues to impress with his combat leadership while serving in the military.

https://tinyurl.com/mrss8e9e

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 09, 2026 05:56 AM (iMotb)

51 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 09, 2026 05:56 AM (JbKjK)

52 I have a recurring dream in which I am still working. I wonder why I never get paid.

Then I wake up and remember that I quit that job.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 09, 2026 05:58 AM (LOvBA)

53 Trying to help a co-worker open a support ticket. The phone tree was designed with hatred of humanity in mind.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 05:59 AM (RjOoY)

54 It's 58 to 61 F. here depending on your source. Good workout weather . . . but I walked+ran pretty solidly yesterday and could use a day off. (Or so I eternally tell myself.) The weather mavens say a "stronger" cold front will arrive this week, so it's not like this is the last cool morning for months, as it would be in March.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 05:59 AM (56Qyq)

55 I hate to break it to you Hadrian. It is a sign of advancing decrepitude.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 09, 2026 06:00 AM (LOvBA)

56 You don't have to be Chinese to love Mao:

https://tinyurl.com/2byzhhd4

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 06:00 AM (peDzg)

57 Lets see if I am back

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 06:00 AM (XBVP2)

58 How about now?

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 06:01 AM (sgkY8)

59 @57/Skip: Message received. Seems the wifi is working.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 09, 2026 06:01 AM (O7YUW)

60 The murderfluffs are well. Time to take their chow out of the fridge and run water in their bowls.

I should hear back today from the watch shop in MI who sent me the wrong watch. (Possibly an error by the manufacturer in Germany.) I'll ship it back and make arrangements for the correct one. The model I got is handsome, but not at all what I wanted.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:03 AM (56Qyq)

61 47 >>> I later found out that we often rode the same commuter bus, she had recognized me, and just wanted me to ride shotgun so she could use the express lane

She could have mentioned all that
Posted by: fluffy at November 09, 2026 05:54 AM (V0/Sp)

I think she expected me to get it. It happens all the time, it's ordinary and customary. But me being both new and kinda not very observant about my fellow commuter bus passengers . . . . Also, it's taking place in rush hour traffic, so it kinda needs to happen quickly.

To this day, I feel a little bad about it. I thought about trying to explain afterward once I realized what had happened. But really where to begin. "You pretty, me potato." Just better to accept that I'm a doofus. On the bright side, I guess I'm too gormless to ever be lured into a honey trap.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 06:03 AM (HFrEr)

62 4
Is there a single known case of a Chinese spy failing to seduce her mark?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 09, 2026 04:18 AM (XJ22o)


I vaguely recall reading that someone mocked Eric Swalwell for getting duped by Fang Fang, because she tried flirting with him first and failed. (Victor Davis Hanson?) I forget the details, and you can't believe everything on the internet anyway. But it's plausible that a spy would cast a wide net.

"Don't be fooled by big ol' socialist titties. They're meant to hypnotize, then enslave your ass." -- Thomas Sowell

Posted by: SciVo at November 09, 2026 06:07 AM (ke3zm)

63 I can think of several times I missed out on invitations by cute girls. Either I was a young daft clot, was involved with someone else, or was just a daft clot even at a more "mature" age.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:09 AM (56Qyq)

64
All three judges I worked with this weekend as a steward were highly complimentary about my efforts. Considering some of the incompetent clods they get, this is not quite the encomium it sounds like, but I did do a good job - without a single mistake yesterday - and I can take a dismal pleasure knowing I can be relied on to show up on time and run a ring by myself, all day if necessary.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 06:09 AM (eRlcH)

65 53 Trying to help a co-worker open a support ticket. The phone tree was designed with hatred of humanity in mind.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 05:59 AM (RjOoY)


If AI isn't yet to the point where it can handle that for you (including interpreting the other party's speech and generating its own), it's close.

Posted by: SciVo at November 09, 2026 06:11 AM (ke3zm)

66 All three judges I worked with this weekend as a steward were highly complimentary about my efforts. Considering some of the incompetent clods they get, this is not quite the encomium it sounds like, but I did do a good job - without a single mistake yesterday - and I can take a dismal pleasure knowing I can be relied on to show up on time and run a ring by myself, all day if necessary.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026


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Mutatis mutandis, this sounds like my entire work career.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:12 AM (56Qyq)

67
I can think of several times I missed out on invitations by cute girls. Either I was a young daft clot, was involved with someone else, or was just a daft clot even at a more "mature" age.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:09 AM (56Qyq)


My youth was marked by a complexion so appalling I basically hid for years and years. The time I should have spent developing social skills and meeting girls was lost and never corrected. So I'm still socially obtuse.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 06:13 AM (eRlcH)

68 I know thd YMCA hash from.llng ago

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 06:18 AM (sgkY8)

69 I was very glad to see the support for the Jewish businesses in Philly.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 09, 2026 06:19 AM (8Uo7a)

70 @bear with asymmetrical balls: That Chinese woman obviously holds grudges over little things. That's her problem to deal with, not yours.

You chose not to ride with her because of how it might affect your marriage. Your thoughts were on the sanctity of your marriage, and how your wife would feel. Don't ever apologize for that.

In short: You did well. Give yourself a pat on the back.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 09, 2026 06:20 AM (O7YUW)

71 I can think of several times I missed out on invitations by cute girls. Either I was a young daft clot, was involved with someone else, or was just a daft clot even at a more "mature" age.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026
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My youth was marked by a complexion so appalling I basically hid for years and years. The time I should have spent developing social skills and meeting girls was lost and never corrected. So I'm still socially obtuse.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026


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Oh, I developed a good social manner, fostered by my work on stage in the Drama Club and as a theatre major in college. It worked for me many a time, as for instance when I met Mrs. Wolfus No. 2, and Miss Linda almost ten years later. I just failed to pick up on cues sometimes because I was involved with someone else, or for other, less comprehensible reasons.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:20 AM (56Qyq)

72 Welp. Clearly I am skipping a workout today. That's all right, as I have grocery run$$$ to make a little later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:22 AM (56Qyq)

73 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Do you haiku?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 09, 2026 06:24 AM (amcLV)

74 Good morning morons

That song is disco in its purest, most evil form.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 06:29 AM (RIvkX)

75 mornin yall. A local bank was robbed by someone at the drive thru. The kind of drive thru where you put your note that says "This is a holdup" in a carrier that goes thru a pneumatic tube to a teller sitting safely inside behind bulletproof glass.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 06:32 AM (MWfyi)

76 I was very glad to see the support for the Jewish businesses in Philly.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 09, 2026 06:19 AM (8Uo7a)
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Glad and totally surprised.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 06:32 AM (RIvkX)

77 Jensen Huang… I guess he got up and boogied!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 06:33 AM (LQ1/y)

78 mornin yall. A local bank was robbed by someone at the drive thru. The kind of drive thru where you put your note that says "This is a holdup" in a carrier that goes thru a pneumatic tube to a teller sitting safely inside behind bulletproof glass.
Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026


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Dummies gonna dummy

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:35 AM (56Qyq)

79
A local bank was robbed by someone at the drive thru. The kind of drive thru where you put your note that says "This is a holdup" in a carrier that goes thru a pneumatic tube to a teller sitting safely inside behind bulletproof glass.
Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 06:32 AM (MWfyi)


A robber handed the teller a note saying, "This is a holdup." The teller told him that he had written it on a deposit slip, not a withdrawal slip. While he was correcting his mistake, he was arrested.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 06:37 AM (eRlcH)

80 The perp will show up in the mug shots in a few days, sporting neck tats, a spider on his head, and a name like "Trayvarious".

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 06:38 AM (MWfyi)

81 Was it today in 1965, or yesterday, that the Great New York Blackout happened? If you want a clue as to how fast our culture began to degrade, look at that and then at the blackout in the summer of 1977. At least one comedy film was made about the 1965 event, and looting, I understand, was minimal. The social fabric endured.

Nobody has seen anything funny in the 1977 blackout -- it was also the "Summer of Sam," I think. I recall reading that the Superman production, filming in NYC, observed or experienced widespread looting.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:41 AM (56Qyq)

82 Late 70s I H8ed disco, still not doing anything for me

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 06:42 AM (sgkY8)

83

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 09, 2026 06:43 AM (EWwzf)

84 Totally missing the big brain play.

Bang the spy.

Tell her nonsense.

Everybody wins.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 06:45 AM (1ns3n)

85 Late 70s I H8ed disco, still not doing anything for me
Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026


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I enjoyed and still do like the best of disco music: The Hues Corporation, George and Gwen McCrae, Donna Summer, even Rod Stewart's venture into it with "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" At its very best, Donna Summer's "She Works Hard for the Money," it had a sweeping energy and a hint of danger and excitement. So did "Bad Girls," though in a different way.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:47 AM (56Qyq)

86 I was in the '77 blackout and it was crazy scary. There were no cell phones, there was no tv or radio. No one knew what was going on.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 06:47 AM (RIvkX)

87 Oh, and "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:47 AM (56Qyq)

88 If AI isn't yet to the point where it can handle that for you (including interpreting the other party's speech and generating its own), it's close.
Posted by: SciVo


I'm debating whether or not AI can actually do better than the people at the call center. What bothers me though is jumping through hoops to get put in the queue ("Please listen carefully as our menu has changed." "Not it has not. You're just BSing me."), wait on hold and then get disconnected.

I miss the early days when the process was call the number, get a person, tell them what the issue was, get transferred to person that can help you.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 06:49 AM (RjOoY)

89 I've mellowed with age and my attitude toward disco has improved, I've got some KC and the Sunshine Band on my playlist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 06:50 AM (RIvkX)

90 Bang the spy.

Tell her nonsense.

Everybody wins.
Posted by: Warai-otoko


Sir, you are a genius.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 06:50 AM (RjOoY)

91 I was in the '77 blackout and it was crazy scary. There were no cell phones, there was no tv or radio. No one knew what was going on.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026


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The '65 must have been bad too, and it was the first (or first big) one. At least in '77 long-time NYers had the earlier experience to tell them that this was not the end of the world.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:51 AM (56Qyq)

92 Dagny keeps knocking the TV remote off the end table.

Cats.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:53 AM (56Qyq)

93 Believe it or not. Before widespread A/C, everyone used to sleep outside at night in the summer. Even in NYC. Parks, sidewalks, fire escapes.

ProTip: Don’t try this now

Posted by: Common Tater at November 09, 2026 06:53 AM (uQjsv)

94 Well '65 was an ice storm. '77 was in the middle of a hot crazy summer when NY was already at its nadir socially and economically.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 06:54 AM (RIvkX)

95 "Black Friday" commercials are starting to run on TV and radio. I think this year I might take a road trip up to the big pipe/cigar shop in Jackson. A three-hour trip each way, but if they're open it'll get me out of town and give me something fun to do.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:54 AM (56Qyq)

96 Leave it to the Dems and everyone will be sleeping outside in the summer. Except for the upper party members. They will have AC and caviar.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 06:55 AM (MWfyi)

97 Dagny keeps knocking the TV remote off the end table.

Cats.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 06:53 AM (56Qyq)
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Careful...they start with the TV remote, then work their way up to the TV...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2026 06:55 AM (s2iZv)

98 And the Republicans will help so they get their fish eggs too.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 06:56 AM (MWfyi)

99 G'mornin' everyone!

9, lol, so true.

weird how few married men are capable of keeping mr. happy in their pants.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 06:56 AM (VyBeY)

100 Disco even had a MLB anthem in 79 when the Pirates won the World Series and We Are Family was their unofficial anthem. I still remember Willie Stargell and Dave Parker… quite the sluggers. Stargell once hit an epic shot completely out of Dodger Stadium

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 06:57 AM (LQ1/y)

101 I enjoyed and still do like the best of disco music.

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I hated disco while living through it. I admit, these days I enjoy hearing some of those songs. Nostalgia has a lot to do with it.

Posted by: Biergood at November 09, 2026 06:58 AM (PwgSL)

102 69, yeah, that was pretty cool. good news!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 06:59 AM (VyBeY)

103 Dagny keeps knocking the TV remote off the end table.

Cats.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026
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Careful...they start with the TV remote, then work their way up to the TV...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2026


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When Stirling was little, he'd often reach up toward the top of the TV. Back when I had a 75-lb. CRT, that would not have been a problem, but even with his minimal weight back then he could have pulled the modern TV over. Now he weighs fourteen lbs. Fortunately he's lost interest in such things.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:00 AM (56Qyq)

104 Speaking of feline thugs, it's time to feed them, and me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:00 AM (56Qyq)

105 70, totally agree, well done, bear!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 07:00 AM (VyBeY)

106 Sometime around mid 60s remember getting my first bicycle, and started with training wheels and trying it out in small areas due to a big snow. 65 maybe, no later than 67 would think.

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 07:05 AM (sgkY8)

107 >I've mellowed with age and my attitude toward disco has improved, I've got some KC and the Sunshine Band on my playlist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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"Disco Inferno" by The Trammps. There's a 9 minute version.

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 07:05 AM (ZxPkt)

108 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps. There's a 9 minute version.
Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026


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Don't know the extended play version, but the original is on my flash drive in the car, along with the titles I mentioned above. DI is a good example of that "excitement and danger" flavor.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:10 AM (56Qyq)

109 looking back over the ONT, that corgi on the field, lol!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 07:10 AM (VyBeY)

110 I fed my two cats, and then the two visitors outside, Freddy the Freeloader and Alfred the Gray.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:11 AM (56Qyq)

111 I remember tooling around with training wheels in the driveway. Dad came home from work, and apparently observed I didn’t need them anymore. Despite my ambivalence on this matter he quickly removed them, lined me up down the hill, and gave me a push. LOL. I reached task overload after a few seconds; and pranged into the curb. He was already walking into the house. That’s how parenting worked then. He would probably get arrested today.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 09, 2026 07:12 AM (uQjsv)

112 Nerds (in politics or tech) are such thirsty, socially inept horndogs. It's like they're twelve year olds.

If i had multiple billions of dollars or an important official position with a lot of power, and was hit up by a Chinese bitch spy, it would go so badly for those yellow heathens.

I would politely decline the overture. My next call would be to a man who killed her - very, very violently - and left her remains somewhere very public, at the nearest known Chinese listening post. Perhaps on their doorstep.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 07:13 AM (BI5O2)

113 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 07:13 AM (dylrg)

114
The way exhibitors should pick up their armbands at the steward's table:
"Australian Cattle Dog, 6 to 9 Month Puppy, Number 6."

The way exhibitors actually pick up their armbands at the steward's table:
"Um, Australian Cattle Dog. I think. I can't remember his class... It's Bitsy... Can I look at your book?.. I don't have my glasses with me... Hm, hm, hm... Was he in 6 to 9 or Bred-By?... Let me see... Number 6, I think..."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 07:14 AM (eRlcH)

115 Perhaps on their doorstep.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 07:13 AM (BI5O2)
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Just look up the Confucius Institute at your local university.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:15 AM (RIvkX)

116 Just look up the Confucius Institute at your local university.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 07:15 AM (RIvkX)

Good call. Let the other Chinese girls see her turned inside out on the pavement at school. Edifying. Bad press all around.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 07:18 AM (BI5O2)

117 . . . Despite my ambivalence on this matter he quickly removed them, lined me up down the hill, and gave me a push. LOL. I reached task overload after a few seconds; and pranged into the curb. He was already walking into the house. That’s how parenting worked then. He would probably get arrested today.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 09, 2026


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The modern hovering or helicopter parents --! If I drive through a school zone in the morning or afternoon, invariably I see a line of SUVs waiting to drop little Brattina or Thugley off. There's a sidewalk, Mommies. If you have to drive the little monsters to the school, why can't you let them get out and walk the remaining half block instead of sitting like an idiot in line burning gas?

If they'd had rules insisting parents do that when I was a kid, I'd have had to quit school after sixth grade.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:18 AM (56Qyq)

118 Democrat congress busy creating and hiding the newer/even better USAID as part of various bills. It will take shape and grow inside innocuous subparts of subpart subparts. The useful idiot gop will help it along if not fully co-write via Thune, et al. No one will catch it.

Posted by: Oh Well at November 09, 2026 07:23 AM (hyQrc)

119 I used to walk home for lunch in grade school. Mom would be rockin’ grilled cheese sammches and tomato soup.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 09, 2026 07:24 AM (uQjsv)

120 You’ll see toddlers and small children walking to and from school in downtown Seoul. Their backpacks are almost as big as they are. They navigate street crossings just fine. Amazing.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 09, 2026 07:26 AM (uQjsv)

121 114, lol,

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 07:27 AM (VyBeY)

122 This type of situation of an extramarital affair has been used in the last decade to grease the skids to replace CEOs who have created a large financial problem that the board of directors would like to forget.

After spending billions on a failing new process, Intel CEO “BK” managed to divert the stockholders eyes by pleading an “affair”.

Posted by: SMOD at November 09, 2026 07:27 AM (f4LHe)

123 I remember carring books, never had a backpack

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 07:30 AM (sgkY8)

124 Good morning, All.

I guess I'll confine my game playing to Minesweeper until GPU prices come down

Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 09, 2026 07:31 AM (PKL0q)

125 Crime against the American Public is the new (D) talking point to come after your money.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 09, 2026 07:33 AM (/+uur)

126 Mornin', Horde. 29 degrees, going up to 66, in Kentuckiana. Need to get started on slow-cooker pork shoulder in about 10 minutes.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 07:34 AM (NcvvS)

127 Over my years in the tech business at multiple companies I can think of at least 3 situations where a CEO or senior executive got booted out of their job for some hanky panky…. But never a Chinese spy in Fartwell fashion.

There was one smooth brain who was getting it on with his secretary in the car in the company parking structure. Discovered by a security guard walking through. You can’t fix stupid

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 09, 2026 07:35 AM (LQ1/y)

128 Keep letting criminals out its going to rise.

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 07:37 AM (sgkY8)

129 I used to walk home for lunch in grade school. Mom would be rockin’ grilled cheese sammches and tomato soup.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 09, 2026


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I could have walked home, but I'd have had to fix my own lunch. Mom worked nights and was usually sleeping.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:37 AM (56Qyq)

130 New GA Insurance Commish
no use of ZIPs or Credit Scores
How then would you even try to guess the value of the house replacement?
Dice
Dart board

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 09, 2026 07:38 AM (/+uur)

131 I remember carring books, never had a backpack
Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026


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The only backpacks were ones from the Army surplus store.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:38 AM (56Qyq)

132 Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, the most valuable company in the world, had an affair with a Chinese spy. (Tom's Hardware)

Named Alice Huang.

The writers of this season of the simulation are just getting lazy.
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Yeh.

I still remember when back in the good old days, Kam Fong was Chin Ho.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 07:39 AM (5UTWB)

133 JJ up

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 07:39 AM (dylrg)

134 JJS hath arrive-ed

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 07:39 AM (56Qyq)

135 Trump now pushing amnesty.

No words.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2026 07:40 AM (0z4nC)

136 "130 New GA Insurance Commish
no use of ZIPs or Credit Scores
How then would you even try to guess the value of the house replacement?
Dice
Dart board"

political orientation of the requester;

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 09, 2026 07:41 AM (VyBeY)

137 Trump endorses an amnesty deal with Democrats, saying immigration maximalists are on the “pretty far right” and suggesting that illegals who have been in the US for 10-15 years should have an opportunity to stay.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 09, 2026 07:41 AM (0z4nC)

138 "The modern hovering or helicopter parents --! If I drive through a school zone in the morning or afternoon, invariably I see a line of SUVs waiting to drop little Brattina or Thugley off. There's a sidewalk, Mommies. If you have to drive the little monsters to the school, why can't you let them get out and walk the remaining half block instead of sitting like an idiot in line burning gas?

If they'd had rules insisting parents do that when I was a kid, I'd have had to quit school after sixth grade.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius"


The charter school I sent my kids to for a few years had exactly that rule. Kids dropped off at the door and escorted by a teacher, because apparently they are too stupid to walk 200 feet by themselves, even when 10 or 12 years old.. It was chaos daily and infuriating

Posted by: Ripley at November 09, 2026 07:42 AM (PTDkx)

139
I saw a very nice '66 Impala Super Sport coupe at the car show this weekend. ....
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 09, 2026 05:51 AM (56Qyq)

I bought a used one once when I was 20-ish.
Not as fancy. It had a spray on vinyl top and shifter on the column -- in an Impala. Sold it in good faith to a vietnam vet who was missing his right hand. Yes, he shifted. He returned it angrily a month later because the clutch went out.

Shouldn't have been my problem, used car and all, but I saw the missing hand and gave him his money back

Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 09, 2026 07:56 AM (PKL0q)

140 So disco! (And funky disco.) I love it.

It's not that the song is only 6 words long as it is that the song is only interrupted by six words.

And I might need to check out that deal from Microcenter.

Posted by: GWB at November 09, 2026 07:56 AM (kU0PQ)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread - November 8, 2026

doof-sunset-Jimmy Doolittle.jpg


Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday ONT. Appreciate you stopping by. Open thread, as always. Fashion and music, as always. What's on YOUR mind tonight?

[Top photo - recent sunset in SW Idaho, sent in by Jimmy Doolittle]

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Was there a NOOD call at the Panthers vs Broncos game today?



"Lennox" the Corgi? I think he should be named Sponge since he was FIRST!!!



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SNL taking some good cracks at Dems? Probably won't last but this was good



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Some AI stuff you might not have seen

Nicolas Cage Refused to Sign an AI Waiver From Amazon

Nicolas Cage says he is unwilling to allow artificial intelligence to be used in his performances, revealing that he declined to sign an AI waiver while working on the Prime Video series Spider-Noir.

Speaking at New York Comic Con on Saturday, the 62-year-old actor criticized Amazon’s investment in AI and questioned how performers can maintain their place in an industry undergoing rapid technological change.

“I am not an AI-friendly actor, so it’s like, connect those dots! I’m not a member of their club. I didn’t sign the waiver to let him use AI on Spider-Noir. I’m probably not going to be working with that studio again, but that’s okay.”

Cage says he is still trying to understand how actors could adapt to an entertainment industry increasingly shaped by new technology.

“I’m trying to find a way of surviving with film performance in a very different world that is growing exponentially with so much information, so quickly,” the actor says.

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The use of AI remains a contentious issue in Hollywood, with performers and writers raising concerns about its potential effects on their work. Industry unions, including SAG-AFTRA and the Writers Guild of America, have negotiated contractual protections addressing the technology. The emergence of AI-generated performers like Tilly Norwood has added to questions about how the industry will manage its use.

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“If you go into deepfake land, it has none of your points of view. That’s scary. It’s going to be interesting to see how humans deal with these technologies.”

Actors like Ian Holm and Val Kilmer have been controversially resurrected from the dead with AI technology.

I'm generally a fan of Nic Cage. Don't have any reason to dislike him. But if he or other over-paid actors and actresses get culled from the industry because of AI, maybe they can "learn to code".

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Elvis Presley’s music owners file new lawsuit against AI music generator

A group that owns the rights to Elvis Presley’s musical catalog filed a new lawsuit on Friday against SUNO, an AI music generator.

“Suno is the embodiment of why the ELVIS Act [Ensuring Likeness, Voice, and Image Security] was so essentially required. All of the humanity, history, despair, and triumph that constitutes Elvis’ identity was stolen and is stored on servers and harnessed by Suno to make massive amounts of money, despite Suno being there for none of what it took to create, maintain, or attempt to live up to this image, and without license, permission, or payment,” the lawsuit stated.

This comes after the group sued artificial intelligence company Anthropic for alleged copyright violations last month in a federal court in Northern California.

The group also claims Anthropic used some of Elvis’s most famous musical works, including “All Shook Up,” “Can’t Help Falling in Love,” and “Don’t Be Cruel,” to train its AI agent Claude without the owners’ permission.

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Gig workers are using AI to fight deactivations on apps like Uber and Instacart

Article is paywalled but maybe one of you can use AI to find a workaround?

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'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)

It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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$$$$$ or $?

The Same Holiday Look for $1,327… or $143
A rich burgundy shaggy faux fur jacket layered over a sleek black midi slip dress, finished with strappy black heels and a delicate silver drop pendant? It’s festive, soft, polished, and perfectly on-trend for holiday parties, dinners, and nights out.

The same exact aesthetic can run you $1,327 or just $143 at Target. That’s a difference of more than $1,180. Here’s the side-by-side breakdown.

The Luxe Version: $1,327

    • Burgundy shaggy faux fur jacket by Yumi — $355
    • Black midi slip dress by Vince — $398
    • Black strappy heels by Tory Burch — $295
    • Silver drop pendant necklace by Roseate — $275

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The Target Version: $143

    • Burgundy shaggy faux fur jacket by Wild Fable — $55
    • Black midi slip dress by A New Day — $35
    • Black strappy heels by Berness — $36
    • Silver drop pendant necklace by A New Day — $17

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Now, Piper, you may be thinking… what if I want an everyday look that’s put together and timeless?

I got you, fam. A Fairisle sweater, corduroy jeans, and ankle boots.

This combination is the definition of elevated casual: the classic Fairisle pattern adds just the right amount of visual interest, corduroy brings texture and a bit of structure, and ankle boots ground the whole thing.

Luxe Version (~$1,991)

    • Favorite Daughter sweater — $298
    • Corduroy jeans by Frame (Le Slim Palazzo Patch Pocket Pants) — $348
    • Louboutin Vibella Booties (in honor of Melania) — $1,345

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Target Version (~$70)

    • A New Day Fairisle sweater — $18
    • Universal Thread Corduroy Jeans — $28
    • Microsuede ankle boots by A New Day — $24

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The price gap is enormous again, yet the overall silhouette and vibe stay remarkably close. You won’t get the exact fabric hand-feel, the designer hardware, or the longevity of those Louboutins, but you’ll still look polished and put-together for a fraction of the cost.

Let’s be honest, y’all, the pieces are not identical. The higher-end versions usually have better materials, construction, and staying power. But budget doesn’t have to be the reason you skip a beautiful outfit. You can shop the high-end version for elevated quality and longevity, or assemble the affordable version in one trip to Target and still walk out the door feeling stylish.


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Thanks, Piper!


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Retro tech returns

Sony revives the original Walkman headphones, adds USB-C

Color us nostalgic.

Sony has brought back the MDR-3-series headphones that debuted in 1979 alongside the Walkman TPS-L2 cassette player.

Originally called the “MDR-3L2,” the first Walkman headphones were known for their sleek, adjustable gray plastic headband, which extended via metal sliders and ended in signature orange, circular ear cushions. The lightweight, on-ear headphones are a contrast to the bulky headsets that are popular these days, which use wide, cushioned headbands for long-term comfort and large earcups that can support big drivers and are often heavily padded for noise isolation.

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New headphones are often wireless these days, but the MDR-3R continues the wired tradition of the MDR-3, with an essential twist: a USB-C connector.

Might have to grab a pair of those!


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DJ Doof - Random 70s Stuff Edition




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1 Ho1d 9diPgCE

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 10:00 PM (hPgrk)

2 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 08, 2026 10:00 PM (L/8vZ)

3 1st

Posted by: LRob in OK at November 08, 2026 10:01 PM (47diA)

4 Doof! ONT!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 10:01 PM (xVpNO)

5 1 Ho1d 9diPgCE

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 10:00 PM (hPgrk)


Do you need us to call a rescue squad for you?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 10:01 PM (xVpNO)

6 Willowed from previous thread-

191 172 Because, in WA as I understand, it is ok for me to own the magazines I already have, but I cannot get more.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 09:08 PM
A possible outcome of a possible burning time is that we will own whatever the heck we want and our very limited 'government' will say nary a word about it.
Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 09:53 PM

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 10:02 PM (LHPAg)

7 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 10:03 PM (+9wcF)

8 Hello, friends!

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:05 PM (ZdaMQ)

9 Ho1d 9diPgCE
Posted by: Braenyard


Is Blonde Morticia around to translate?

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:05 PM (VHUov)

10 Not the Jimmy Doolittle?!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 10:05 PM (ZVgZ4)

11 Thing this week was the highest placement for me ever.

Shame it was such a shitty week

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:05 PM (sKqQm)

12 We’re not going through a burning time, they are: EO 13848.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 10:06 PM (ZVgZ4)

13 [Top photo - recent sunset in SW Idaho, sent in by Jimmy Doolittle]

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Until now I didn't realize SW Idaho was on the route to bomb Tokyo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:07 PM (ENc66)

14 Doof! ONT!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 10:01 PM (xVpNO)


Hey there, brother!

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:07 PM (QMAsf)

15 Tonight's ONT brought to you by roadside attractions

Iowa Math:

How tall is this set of binoculars?

How far away is the horizon?

Calculate the radius of the earth.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:07 PM (VHUov)

16 Ho1d 9diPgCE
Posted by: Braenyard

Is Blonde Morticia around to translate?
Posted by: mikeski

D R I N K M O R E O V A L T I N E

or something like that. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at November 08, 2026 10:08 PM (L/8vZ)

17 Evening Horde! Pic is gorgeous. And I love the Scenic Overlook photo.

Posted by: Iris at November 08, 2026 10:08 PM (286+n)

18 Evenin'

youtu.be/_LXKZq0fYDw

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 08, 2026 10:09 PM (sAmhv)

19 1 Ho1d 9diPgCE

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 10:00 PM (hPgrk)


Gotta be honest -- that's probably not going to be a Comment of the Week.

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:09 PM (QMAsf)

20 Willowed from the gun thread:

196 > . . . and it's a boobs thread !

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 09:51 PM (X5Jzz)

Speaking of, I see that nVidia's Jensen Huang is the latest guy to fall victim to a Chinese honeypot.

The ChiCom spy in question goes by Alice Huang (no relation to Jensen). Going by an image search, she looks pretty tasty.

It's not just mooks like Eric Swalwell. Even geniuses like Huang are sometimes guilty of letting the little head do the thinking for the big head.




Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:09 PM (qlLNh)

21 Ho1d 9diPgCE
Posted by: Braenyard

Gotta be honest -- that's probably not going to be a Comment of the Week.
Posted by: Doof


Decent password, though. Not many people use spaces.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:10 PM (VHUov)

22 Could've been the Polar Route I guess.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:11 PM (ENc66)

23 Iowa roadside attraction: cornier is better

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2026 10:12 PM (Y95t2)

24 No joke, I do kinda miss those classic headphones.

Good evening, and thanks for the ONT, Doof and Piper!

Piper, I do like the casual sweater-and-trousers outfit I can just see M in it. The Target version, probably.

Job updates:
The folks I did a road trip to interview with said 'thanks but no thanks' finally (kinda expected, not really a great match as it was a junior-mid role and I'm mid-senior experience, and I was surprised they asked for the in-person 2nd-round, but it's still frustrating).
Desperately praying that last Monday's interview gets good news early this week. God has a history of having me start new long-term positions around Veteran's Day.
Subbing again tomorrow.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:12 PM (aJQbY)

25
the 62-year-old actor criticized Amazon’s investment in AI and questioned how performers can maintain their place in an industry undergoing rapid technological change.

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They can't. That's the point. AI will replace you narcissistic, overpaid, overrated drug abusers with personas that are just as gratifying to viewers as you, but that never hold up a set for three hours while they sleep off a hangover or tell the press that their Disney source material is "weird." Your AI replacements will not need makeup or hair or wardrobe or filters. Voice actors will record the lines and body models will mime the action. You're not needed.

Now fuck off back to the stage from whence you came. That is the future of human acting. You'll actually have to show up and do the job live -- like waitresses, bus drivers, kindergarten teachers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (XJ22o)

26 Welp. Hubs and I may have to find a new church. Our current church held a chili cookoff yesterday and the winning chili had carrots in it.

SMH

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (OlzlW)

27 That picture of the "Iowa Scenic Overlook" doesn't really do it justice. It's much nicer when the corn is in full tassel. Come back in late July.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (X5Jzz)

28 Nice work, Piper! Thanks to Doof, also!

Corduroy pants are back, huh? Well, too bad I can't fit into my ol' cords anymore. (Of course, they're Levi BigBell hiphuggers anyway...)

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (rdVOm)

29 There's a roadside attraction somewhere in CA called The Mystery Hole, at least according to the bumper stickers.

The imagination runs wild.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (ENc66)

30 I continue to underperform in the commenting stats. I'm beginning to ask myself what I do here.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 08, 2026 10:14 PM (Riz8t)

31 Personally, I'm looking for a woman who considers Carhartt to be a designer label.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 10:14 PM (FZzOq)

32 > 27 That picture of the "Iowa Scenic Overlook" doesn't really do it justice. It's much nicer when the corn is in full tassel. Come back in late July.
Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (X5Jzz)

It also needs a stripe of soybeans, for the bold two-tone effect.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (qlLNh)

33 Ideally it would involve a farmer's daughter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (ENc66)

34 I LOL'd for 30 seconds watching that Corgi evading tackles. Thank you Doof.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (PV+Zw)

35 As a failing writer of no note, I, too, am concerned about the use of AI in creative endeavors. I already can't sell anything. If AI takes over, I never will. This will make me sad. And effect my financial situation.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (1Ff7Z)

36 > 29 There's a roadside attraction somewhere in CA called The Mystery Hole, at least according to the bumper stickers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (ENc66)

(interest intensifies)

Posted by: Paul Pelosi at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (qlLNh)

37 Emmie, that reminds me, the church has a chili cookoff later this month, I need to go over my recipes and make sure I have everything I need...

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (aJQbY)

38
Ho1d 9diPgCE
Posted by: Braenyard

Is Blonde Morticia around to translate?
Posted by: mikeski

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Derivative slop.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (XJ22o)

39 Personally, I'm looking for a woman who considers Carhartt to be a designer label.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Allow me to be your host at my local Waffle House.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (L/8vZ)

40 31 Personally, I'm looking for a woman who considers Carhartt to be a designer label.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November

Carhartt got a little trendy there for a bit!

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

41 No joke, I do kinda miss those classic headphones.

Good evening, and thanks for the ONT, Doof and Piper!

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:12 PM (aJQbY)



I do too because they were lightweight and comfy. But the sound quality was whelming.

I sometimes use the big over-the-ear headphones when I really want to enjoy some music. Haven't found any bluetooth earbuds that come close to that sound quality.

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:17 PM (QMAsf)

42
Corgi at the Panthers-Broncos game had the time of his life. Some of those chasers, I swear, did not actually want to catch him.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 10:17 PM (XJ22o)

43 Corduroy pants add 10lbs to your silhouette, I don't care how skinny you may be.

Nope nada. Don't need help with extra padding.

Posted by: Derak at November 08, 2026 10:17 PM (k1H9p)

44 There's a roadside attraction somewhere in CA called The Mystery Hole, at least according to the bumper stickers.

Mystery Spot in Santa Cruz. Mystery Hole is in West Virginia.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (+9wcF)

45 Love that last pic. It reminds me of one of the oddball places I'd like to visit. Panorama Point, NE. The highest point in Nebraska. Why, you ask? (shrugs) I don't know, I just do. I've seen pics of it. Its rolling grasslands as far as the eye can see. It's near the CO,WY borders. There are markers there and the view is pretty amazing, if amazing is rolling grasslands with some cows. Its on some guys ranch but he allows visitors to the markers, that you have to drive to. Anyway, I've rambled enough.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (sAmhv)

46
Nice party clothes, Piper. I hope people start dressing up again.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (XJ22o)

47 26 Welp. Hubs and I may have to find a new church. Our current church held a chili cookoff yesterday and the winning chili had carrots in it.

SMH

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (OlzlW)


SERIOUSLY ? ? ? I thought carrots in chili were just an AOS meme, I never dreamed that someone would actually do it.

And you're right, you need to get away from those kind of people. I assume not Lutheran, as they would put the carrots in the Jell-O.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (X5Jzz)

48 That picture of the "Iowa Scenic Overlook" doesn't really do it justice. It's much nicer when the corn is in full tassel. Come back in late July.
Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (X5Jzz)

And when the tassels spin... hoo boy!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (1Ff7Z)

49 commented quite a bit less, still ended up on the list of shame...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (l3cgK)

50 11 Thing this week was the highest placement for me ever.

Shame it was such a shitty week

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:05 PM


Sunday is the start of the NEXT week.

I am going to take your high placement as a sign that you are now absolutely going to kick a$$ for the next six days!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 08, 2026 10:19 PM (HlyYF)

51 43 Corduroy pants add 10lbs to your silhouette, I don't care how skinny you may be.

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Also, just try sneaking up on someone.

Posted by: The Night Stalker at November 08, 2026 10:19 PM (ENc66)

52 the church has a chili cookoff later this month, I need to go over my recipes and make sure I have everything I need...
Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (aJQbY)


Good luck, RandomDave!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 08, 2026 10:19 PM (OlzlW)

53 > Carhartt got a little trendy there for a bit!
Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

Yeah.... it was almost as amusing as when "grunge fashion" was trendy for a short time, and you saw epicene persons in Manhattan and Los Angeles running around wearing flannel shirts.

The whole point was that the grunge bands eschewed the spandex and glitter boots for normal, everyday attire from the PNW. This apparently went right over people's heads.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (qlLNh)

54 I'm never going to be fashionable but I kind of enjoy seeing pics of people who can carry it off. But why did they have to flop from yech skinny legs especially for guy's slacks to bell bottoms?

Posted by: PaleRider at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (PV+Zw)

55 Bronze!

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (AKptf)

56 35 As a failing writer of no note, I, too, am concerned about the use of AI in creative endeavors. I already can't sell anything. If AI takes over, I never will. This will make me sad. And effect my financial situation.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (1Ff7Z)


Probably "affect" it, too.

Sorry.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (X5Jzz)

57 Nice work, Piper! Thanks to Doof, also!

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (rdVOm)


Damn - my indentured servant gets high praise and I get "oh yeah - you too, I guess".

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (QMAsf)

58 Ho1d 9diPgCE
Posted by: Braenyard

Is Blonde Morticia around to translate?
Posted by: mikeski

Derivative slop.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


😂😂😂

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (VHUov)

59 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (w3u3d)

60 26 Welp. Hubs and I may have to find a new church. Our current church held a chili cookoff yesterday and the winning chili had carrots in it.

SMH

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM


Blasphemers!!!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 08, 2026 10:21 PM (HlyYF)

61 52 the church has a chili cookoff later this month, I need to go over my recipes and make sure I have everything I need...
Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (aJQbY)

Good luck, RandomDave!

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 08, 2026 10:19 PM (OlzlW)

You may want to leave the carrots out...unless you don't like some of the folks at church?

Had a friend who made pies for a church luncheon. The potatoes were perfectly sliced, as if they were apples...They looked perfect. His joy was watching how polite everybody was after they tried what they thought were apple pies, but were potato pies...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:22 PM (l3cgK)

62 > 43 Corduroy pants add 10lbs to your silhouette, I don't care how skinny you may be.

Nope nada. Don't need help with extra padding.
Posted by: Derak at November 08, 2026 10:17 PM (k1H9p)

Not to mention the free thigh-generated sound effect you get from walking in a pair of cords when you're overweight.

Sounds like a carpenter using a wood rasp.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:22 PM (qlLNh)

63 If you've eschewed spandex, seek qualified medical care immediately.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:22 PM (ENc66)

64 29 There's a roadside attraction somewhere in CA called The Mystery Hole, at least according to the bumper stickers.

The imagination runs wild.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43

I see your CA Mystery Hole and raise you a Natural Vortex.

Posted by: Montana at November 08, 2026 10:22 PM (sdSI9)

65 Probably "affect" it, too.

Sorry.
Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (X5Jzz)

Well, it's "e" for effort.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:22 PM (1Ff7Z)

66 That picture of the "Iowa Scenic Overlook" doesn't really do it justice. It's much nicer when the corn is in full tassel. Come back in late July.
Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (X5Jzz)

It also needs a stripe of soybeans, for the bold two-tone effect.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (qlLNh)


And a dozen wind turbines

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:23 PM (QMAsf)

67 45 Love that last pic. It reminds me of one of the oddball places I'd like to visit. Panorama Point, NE. The highest point in Nebraska. Why, you ask? (shrugs) I don't know, I just do. I've seen pics of it. Its rolling grasslands as far as the eye can see. It's near the CO,WY borders. There are markers there and the view is pretty amazing, if amazing is rolling grasslands with some cows. Its on some guys ranch but he allows visitors to the markers, that you have to drive to. Anyway, I've rambled enough.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (sAmhv)


Sounds a lot like the highest point in Iowa, Hawkeye Point, elevation 1,670 feet.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:23 PM (X5Jzz)

68 I've been to Nothing, AZ...there are a few buildings there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:23 PM (l3cgK)

69 43 Corduroy pants add 10lbs to your silhouette, I don't care how skinny you may be.

Nope nada. Don't need help with extra padding.
Posted by: Derak at November 08, 2026

Just choose a fine wale and make sure they are the right size.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:24 PM (ZdaMQ)

70 jim in Kalifornia, yeah. I leave out the carrots, I leave out the beans (usually).... gotta decide what spice level to do, and whether to use ground beef or shredded beef.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:24 PM (aJQbY)

71 The Target Version: $143
plus
Baby Mama With Cart full of $38 Simulac she pays with EBT and sells at the Bodega
Step Grandma helping 5 YO Sarah get the exact right underpants bulge for tomorrow when he is Sam at K bulge reveal.
Sharona has now tried 3 versions of pink lipstick for trans Bible Reading and given next three people at the makeup desk Herpes Complex IV

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:25 PM (/+uur)

72 Just choose a fine wale

Isn't "a fine wale" an oxymoron?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 08, 2026 10:25 PM (Riz8t)

73 68 I've been to Nothing, AZ...there are a few buildings there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:23 PM (l3cgK)

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There's no girl, my lord
And no flatbed Ford
Slowin' down to take a look at me

Posted by: Glenn Frey at November 08, 2026 10:25 PM (ENc66)

74 70 jim in Kalifornia, yeah. I leave out the carrots, I leave out the beans (usually).... gotta decide what spice level to do, and whether to use ground beef or shredded beef.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:24 PM (aJQbY)

I don't make chili...
The other day I got lazy, cooked chorizo and added a few cans of cooked beans to it, mashed it all together. Goes great in corn tortillas.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:25 PM (l3cgK)

75 31 Personally, I'm looking for a woman who considers Carhartt to be a designer label.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 10:14 PM


My local Tractor Supply store has lots of Carhartt gear in lady sizes and styles.

They even sell camo clothing with pink incorporated in the variegations.

Definitely have observed some cuties rockin' that gear.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 08, 2026 10:26 PM (HlyYF)

76 57 Nice work, Piper! Thanks to Doof, also!

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (rdVOm)

Damn - my indentured servant gets high praise and I get "oh yeah - you too, I guess".
Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (QMAsf)

It do be like that sometimes.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:26 PM (ZdaMQ)

77 72 Just choose a fine wale

Isn't "a fine wale" an oxymoron?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 08, 2026 10:25 PM (Riz8t)

How's about a gunwale?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (l3cgK)

78 > given next three people at the makeup desk Herpes Complex IV
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:25 PM (/+uur)

We've got monkeypox going around here in Anchorage again.

(screw your "mpox" bullshit. Its also the "Wuhan virus", you yutzes)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (qlLNh)

79 jim, yeah, that sounds like a good comfort food for cold weather Sticks to your ribs and healthy with all that protein.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (aJQbY)

80 52 the church has a chili cookoff later this month, I need to go over my recipes and make sure I have everything I need...
Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:16 PM (aJQbY)

I can print you a no aminals were haramed in the makering of this Chilis sign

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (/+uur)

81 Hi Doof!

So, I kinda always liked the Tusk song and video. Those others...they need to remain in the 70s. Bad, bad stuff...
My opinion of course 🤮...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (96kpa)

82 78 > given next three people at the makeup desk Herpes Complex IV
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:25 PM (/+uur)

We've got monkeypox going around here in Anchorage again.

(screw your "mpox" bullshit. Its also the "Wuhan virus", you yutzes)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (qlLNh)

Tell me Anchorage has gays without telling me Anchorage has gays...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:28 PM (l3cgK)

83 We've got monkeypox going around here in Anchorage again.

(screw your "mpox" bullshit. Its also the "Wuhan virus", you yutzes)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (qlLNh)

You got wuhu AIDS in my MOnkeypox

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:28 PM (/+uur)

84 Sharona has now tried 3 versions of pink lipstick for trans Bible Reading and given next three people at the makeup desk Herpes Complex IV
Posted by: r hennigantx at November

Well…you certainly read a lot between the lines! 😂

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:28 PM (ZdaMQ)

85 60 26 Welp. Hubs and I may have to find a new church. Our current church held a chili cookoff yesterday and the winning chili had carrots in it.

SMH

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM

Blasphemers!!!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 08, 2026 10:21 PM (HlyYF)

Unclean!!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 08, 2026 10:28 PM (0CU3H)

86 DeSantis continues to show he is politically astute.

https://tinyurl.com/ys9y22ac

Posted by: Archimedes at November 08, 2026 10:29 PM (Riz8t)

87 Tell me Anchorage has gays without telling me Anchorage has gays...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:28 PM (l3cgK)

Hi Sailor is more a greeting than a drug effect

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:29 PM (/+uur)

88 79 jim, yeah, that sounds like a good comfort food for cold weather Sticks to your ribs and healthy with all that protein.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (aJQbY)

Well, moderately healthy at any rate...the chorizo isn't exactly health food with all that grease...and the beans soak it all up.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:29 PM (l3cgK)

89 SERIOUSLY ? ? ? I thought carrots in chili were just an AOS meme, I never dreamed that someone would actually do it.

And you're right, you need to get away from those kind of people. I assume not Lutheran, as they would put the carrots in the Jell-O.
Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:18 PM (X5Jzz)


The winner is a fairly new member. Maybe we can get her excommunicated?

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 08, 2026 10:29 PM (OlzlW)

90 31 Personally, I'm looking for a woman who considers Carhartt to be a designer label.

*raises hand*

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 10:30 PM (96kpa)

91 > Tell me Anchorage has gays without telling me Anchorage has gays...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:28 PM (l3cgK)

Imagine my surprise when the report said that the first two victims were "partners".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:30 PM (qlLNh)

92 I find it curious that wool sweaters are now the height of fashion, or did I misinterpret?

Polar fleece pretty much eliminated the wool sweater in the late 1980s. I have an entire wardrobe of classic wool sweaters in a cedar chest I could never, ever part with because they are exquisite, expensive and obtained from as far away as Ireland.

But I will never likely wear them again because..
They are too hot.
The nearest dry cleaner is 60 miles away.
Fashion only looks good on the young.

But boy are they pretty, and maybe I could now pawn them off in hopes they'd get actually get worn instead of being food for the moths.

Posted by: Derak at November 08, 2026 10:30 PM (k1H9p)

93
1 Ho1d 9diPgCE

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 10:00 PM (hPgrk)

Gotta be honest -- that's probably not going to be a Comment of the Week.
Posted by: Doof

================

I can vouch for that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 10:30 PM (XJ22o)

94 Hi Doof!

So, I kinda always liked the Tusk song and video. Those others...they need to remain in the 70s. Bad, bad stuff...
My opinion of course 🤮...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 10:27 PM (96kpa)


Ha! I can actually do a lot worse for 70s stuff.

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (QMAsf)

95 67: Sounds a lot like the highest point in Iowa, Hawkeye Point, elevation 1,670 feet.
Posted by: a.moron



Panorama Point, NE is 5400+ feet.

The highest point in VA is Mt. Rogers. 5725ft. I was reading about it. Near the Appalachian Trail & NC very close by. Lots of hiking trails, none of them easy. I'm not fit enough for a hard hike. I've seen pics of the summit and it's a bit of a let down. Huge forest all around so no views. Now the hike up is amazing. Gorgeous views. Never done the hike, just seen pics online.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (sAmhv)

96 Well…you certainly read a lot between the lines! 😂
Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:28 PM (ZdaMQ)

My HD I am at about 7 X each week has a Targhey
I see about 32 old crippled lesbians going in there each week

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (/+uur)

97 Imagine my surprise when the report said that the first two victims were "partners".

Practicing law can lead to monkey pox?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (+9wcF)

98 Damn - my indentured servant gets high praise and I get "oh yeah - you too, I guess".
Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM

You don't like to share the spotlight?

Doof, you'll always rock.. it's a given.

Piper, you deserve a shout out for posting "normal people wearables" tonight. LOL.

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (rdVOm)

99 90 31 Personally, I'm looking for a woman who considers Carhartt to be a designer label.

*raises hand*
Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 10:30 PM (96kpa)

----------

Aaand I believe the HQ has struck another match.

Posted by: Grindr at November 08, 2026 10:32 PM (ENc66)

100 Tonight's ONT brought to you by roadside attractions

Iowa Math:

How tall is this set of binoculars?

How far away is the horizon?

Calculate the radius of the earth.
Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:07 PM (VHUov)


Assuming the arc distance is small to the horizon, which seems reasonable given the size of Earth, such that the arc distance to the horizon can be well approximated by the straight-line distance to the horizon, then if h is the height of the binoculars and d, the straight-line distance to the horizon is a good approximation to the arc distance l to the horizon then the radius r is given d^2 / (2h) - h / 2.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 10:33 PM (ZVgZ4)

101 97 Imagine my surprise when the report said that the first two victims were "partners".

Practicing law can lead to monkey pox?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (+9wcF)

--------

See? This is why the Limited Liability Partnership was invented.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:33 PM (ENc66)

102 97 Imagine my surprise when the report said that the first two victims were "partners".

Practicing law can lead to monkey pox?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (+9wcF)

Joke Punchline: "...and Lawyers will do things not even rats will do."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:33 PM (l3cgK)

103 But boy are they pretty, and maybe I could now pawn them off in hopes they'd get actually get worn instead of being food for the moths.
Posted by: Derak at November 08,

Get them out! Wool is a staple, always has been. You can get at home dry cleaning kits that you use in your dryer. I maybe get to wear my sweaters 3 days a year, same with my boots. But dang if I don’t make the best of those 3 days!

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:34 PM (ZdaMQ)

104 Sounds a lot like the highest point in Iowa, Hawkeye Point, elevation 1,670 feet.
Posted by: a.moron


Or the "Turtle Mountains" on the North Dakota/Manitoba border.

They're 400 feet taller than the surrounding plains.

Which is actually a pretty big hill for an area that got bulldozed by a glacier a few thousand years ago.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:34 PM (VHUov)

105 DeSantis continues to show he is politically astute.
Posted by: Archimedes


Good. The country needs more stutes.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:35 PM (VHUov)

106 98 Damn - my indentured servant gets high praise and I get "oh yeah - you too, I guess".
Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM

You don't like to share the spotlight?

Doof, you'll always rock.. it's a given.

Piper, you deserve a shout out for posting "normal people wearables" tonight. LOL.

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (rdVOm)

Well, wearable for the 'ettes, not the 'rons...unless there things about some of our 'rons I'd rather not know...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:35 PM (l3cgK)

107 29 There's a roadside attraction somewhere in CA called The Mystery Hole, at least according to the bumper stickers.

The imagination runs wild.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (ENc66)
-----
It's on my and Chasten's "to do!" list! Hope it doesn't disappoint!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at November 08, 2026 10:35 PM (oqH4h)

108 Practicing law can lead to monkey pox?
Posted by: Blanco Basura

See? This is why the Limited Liability Partnership was invented.
Posted by: Cicero


Close. That's the "Limited Layability Partnership."

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:36 PM (VHUov)

109 Target Version (~$70)

• A New Day Fairisle sweater — $18
• Universal Thread Corduroy Jeans — $28
• Microsuede ankle boots by A New Day — $24

WalMart Version
• A New sweater — Free (Stuffed in babies bag)
• Corduroy Jeans — Free (Worn under mamas sweat pants)
• ankle boots — Free (Came in with slippers n socks)

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (/+uur)

110 Posted by: Mayor Pete at November 08, 2026 10:35 PM (oqH4h)

---------

Don't you have some chestfeeding to do?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (ENc66)

111 You don't like to share the spotlight?

Doof, you'll always rock.. it's a given.

Piper, you deserve a shout out for posting "normal people wearables" tonight. LOL.
Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:31 PM (rdVOm)


I don't mind sharing the spotlight - I just don't want Piper thinking she's a shoo-in for Employee of the Month again.

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (QMAsf)

112 > Close. That's the "Limited Layability Partnership."
Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:36 PM (VHUov)

Close. "PartnerSHIT", I think.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (qlLNh)

113 Ideally it would involve a farmer's daughter.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (ENc66)

Well, since you asked . . .
https://youtu.be/_lprEac69rM

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (wVcYX)

114 I'm generally a fan of Nic Cage. Don't have any reason to dislike him. But if he or other over-paid actors and actresses get culled from the industry because of AI, maybe they can "learn to code".


Saw him once up close at Disneyland. He was with his wife? Skinny dude and too many tats.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (2WIwB)

115 I don't mind sharing the spotlight - I just don't want Piper thinking she's a shoo-in for Employee of the Month again.
Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (QMAsf

Did we get another employee?

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (ZdaMQ)

116 No kindgs!

"BREAKING: Sen. DAVE MCCORMICK (R-PA) just JOINED the effort to block John Thune's reelection as Senate GOP Leader this week, instead DELAYING Minority Leader selections

Wow! That's now Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, Rick Scott, John Kennedy and McCormick.."One of the things I learned in business and the Army is that after a failure, you have to start with honesty, transparency, and accountability." 🔥

"I don’t believe we should move to leadership elections until we have digested and debated the lessons of the midterms and how to move forward."

"We need leadership in place fast, but Tuesday is too soon."

yeah, good idea.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 10:37 PM (AKptf)

117 Evening, Doof, and ONT Horde.

Got the bumper back on my '49 Shoebox Ford project car today. It was broken and twisted, and all rusty and peeling chrome. I straightened it out, welded it up, and ground all the rust and old chrome off with a 36 grit flap wheel, several of them, in fact. Painted the bumper and bumperettes with gloss aluminum paint, and the brackets matte black. Does it look like new? Not even close. But it's no longer the ugliest part of the car. So, a win.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 10:38 PM (yky4J)

118 Well, wearable for the 'ettes, not the 'rons...unless there things about some of our 'rons I'd rather not know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)


Early ideas for next Halloween. The "shaggy faux fur jacket" would work as part of your pimp costume.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:38 PM (VHUov)

119 The formula comes from the Pythagorean theorem where the legs are d and r and the hypotenuse is h + r, using the approximation that the distance d to the horizon subtends a small angle so that the arc distance to the horizon is well approximated by the straight line distance d.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 10:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

120 I saw "Skinny Dude and Too Many Tatts" open for "Death Cab for Cutie" in a logger bar in Aberdeen Washington back in '98.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:39 PM (qlLNh)

121 WalMart Version
• A New sweater — Free (Stuffed in babies bag)
• Corduroy Jeans — Free (Worn under mamas sweat pants)
• ankle boots — Free (Came in with slippers n socks)
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10

Why I avoid Walmart at all costs.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:39 PM (ZdaMQ)

122 Job updates:
The folks I did a road trip to interview with said 'thanks but no thanks' finally (kinda expected, not really a great match as it was a junior-mid role and I'm mid-senior experience, and I was surprised they asked for the in-person 2nd-round, but it's still frustrating).
Desperately praying that last Monday's interview gets good news early this week. God has a history of having me start new long-term positions around Veteran's Day.
Subbing again tomorrow.
Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 10:12 PM (aJQbY)


Hate that you're also going through this, but best wishes for the coming week!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 10:40 PM (xVpNO)

123 Wow.. home dry cleaning kits? What'll they think of next?

I did notice just last week that the young gals at church were wearing wool sweaters and I thought I was hallucinating.....

I remember when I was in my teens and platform shoes were all the rage. My mother scoffed at me for thinking that was a "new" fashion, as she showed me pics of herself in similar footwear.

She said everything old becomes new again.

Word.

Posted by: Derak at November 08, 2026 10:41 PM (k1H9p)

124 DeSantis is petitioning the State Legislature to impeach Judge Tiffany Baker: “Until you start holding these judges ACCOUNTABLE, they are going to continue to find ways to benefit the criminal element!”

The system with judges was designed to hold them free of direct accountability but there is a problem because the left has designed an alternate system with rewards for ruling how they want (status, access to the powerful, and often cash) and penalties for ruling how they don't (lawfare, physical violence, and social shunning)

In theory one could update judicial code to penalize actions such as these though to get there you would have to remove most of the current judges who are invested in the current corrupt system.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:43 PM (sKqQm)

125
Vera Rubin has found another interesting body out there, designation R631. It's a hunk of something ~100km diameter, 142 degree inclination, and hence retrograde out beyond Neptune, out at about 32 AU.

They speculate it may be a giant cometary body:
https://t.ly/pQmng

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 10:43 PM (w6EFb)

126 It is bed time for those of us who wake up at a ridiculous hour. Plus, all the critters have settled and that is my sign.

Night all!

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:43 PM (ZdaMQ)

127 Hey there, brother!
Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 10:07 PM (QMAsf)


Hey yourself. Thank you, and thanks to Piper, for the girthy ONT content!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 10:43 PM (xVpNO)

128 28 Nice work, Piper! Thanks to Doof, also!

Corduroy pants are back, huh? Well, too bad I can't fit into my ol' cords anymore. (Of course, they're Levi BigBell hiphuggers anyway...)
Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:13 PM (rdVOm)

/walks in

fvfpp fvfpp fvfpp


They most certainly are not.

/flounces quickly

fvp fvp fvp fvp fvp

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 08, 2026 10:44 PM (r7+Q7)

129 Carhartt may as well be a "designer label"-- it's pricey enough LOL.

I wear Wrangler. And cheap, colorful t-shirts. Got a good *Carhartt look-alike* winter coat at Costco a few years ago & it's still in great condition. Nice quality, comfortable, very warm, and less than half the Carhartt price.

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:44 PM (rdVOm)

130 One of the things I learned in business and the Army is that after a failure, you have to start with honesty, transparency, and accountability

Reward people for failure and you'll get more of it. Penalize them for it and you'll get less of it.

I understand the argument that Thune couldn't get the lefty Reps to vote for SAVE and other important initiatives. Perhaps , if we ever get another senate majority again, that not only is retaining the Republican majority dependent on getting things done so is their cushy title that will get them $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:45 PM (sKqQm)

131 While serving in 3rd Marine Division band in Japan, Oliver Nelson attended the Tokyo Philharmonic Orchestra and heard Maurice Ravel's Ma mère l'Oye and Paul Hindemith's Symphony in E Flat.
Nelson said this, ‘was the first time that I had heard really modern music...I realized everything didn't have to sound like Beethoven or Brahms ... . It was then that I decided to become a composer.'

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 10:47 PM (hPgrk)

132 I understand the argument that Thune couldn't get the lefty Reps to vote for SAVE and other important initiatives.

==

Then he does not belong in leadership, managed decline is for failing businesses, we deserve better. Even someone like me can think of a hundred ways someone could have made the intransigent hags to vote for Trump's agenda.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 10:47 PM (AKptf)

133 How far away is the horizon?

I actually include a table for this in the game master’s part of my roleplaying game (Gods & Monsters). I wrote an article about it along with both a Python and a BASIC program to do the calculations for any given planetary radius, for the gaming mag Fight On. That was before their death. They recently revivified themselves. I should probably revisit the article.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 08, 2026 10:48 PM (kYmoU)

134 Pipes continues to bring it. And I know nothing about women's shoes.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 10:48 PM (2WIwB)

135 The only Cathartt thing I have are a pair of work gloves. I'm surprised how good and comfortable they are even though they were a bit spendy, $24

Posted by: Beartooth at November 08, 2026 10:48 PM (FuXG7)

136 I got a Carhartt hoodie.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2026 10:48 PM (VCgbV)

137 I was reading a local thread about a DSA leader elected to local office.

Someone had posted her picture (and she looked exactly like you would expect) and the policy positions of the DSA branch she was the head of.

The response from the left was interesting as the most common response was "You people just lost I think'd you have better things to do then fearmonger". Again, the post listed the DSA's stated positions which as the local DSA leader this woman endorsed and likely wrote.

So lefties know their own views look like something normal people would fear and instead suggest we talk about...hope and change?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:49 PM (sKqQm)

138 92 I have an entire wardrobe of classic wool sweaters in a cedar chest I could never, ever part with because they are exquisite, expensive and obtained from as far away as Ireland.

Check for moths. They love that shit🤪!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 10:50 PM (96kpa)

139
Then he does not belong in leadership, managed decline is for failing businesses, we deserve better. Even someone like me can think of a hundred ways someone could have made the intransigent hags to vote for Trump's agenda.


That is my point.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:50 PM (sKqQm)

140 I only wear Carhartt hoodies
So my cousin does logging in NE Louisiana.
Under the tree at the Christmas party is 5 new SS Tees, 5 LS Tees, 2 pair jeans and a jacket.
He may have fired a worker but I dont think one has ever quit except to start his own logging compnay that my cousin onwed part of.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:51 PM (/+uur)

141 >> How far away is the horizon?

Infinity. The earth is flat.

Posted by: Flerfer at November 08, 2026 10:52 PM (w6EFb)

142 Reward people for failure and you'll get more of it. Penalize them for it and you'll get less of it.

I understand the argument that Thune couldn't get the lefty Reps to vote for SAVE and other important initiatives. Perhaps , if we ever get another senate majority again, that not only is retaining the Republican majority dependent on getting things done so is their cushy title that will get them $$$

Posted by: 18-1 a
----

If Nancy Pelosi were head of the Senate she would have had their asses in gear. There are committee assignments, chair positions etc that can be given and ... oh, campaign finance help; all of those things. Did Thune use that power?

You just can't love 'em enough.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 10:53 PM (hPgrk)

143 Hubby had an outdoor job, so would wear Carhartt insulated overalls. Dang, over $100 each 10-15 years ago. (I could usually find decent pre-season sales at 25- to 50-percent off regular price, but couldn't always find his size in stock.)

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 10:54 PM (rdVOm)

144 I mentioned I saw Brink of War the other day and I was thinking just how amazing Reagan's strategy was.

By 1986 the Soviets knew they were in trouble as with Reagan's rejuvenation of the US economy they were falling farther and farther behind. And SDI would be the nail in the coffin - they would have to give up any hope of being a peer military force to the US or spend into economic destruction.

Gorby was willing to make some compromises previous Soviet leaders weren't but his goal was to maintain communism. And back home some of his peers preferred gambling on WWIII over even his modest reforms.

So Reagan had to essentially string Gorby along. Give him hope that he would sell out America's advantages like Carter before him while not actually doing so, and do it well enough that Gorby's fellow Soviet leaders didn't just remove him and release the balloon in Europe.

And Reagan played it perfectly.

Also note, this is during the time period the left claims he was senile.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:55 PM (sKqQm)

145 Infinity. The earth is flat.
Posted by: Flerfer at November 08, 2026 10:52 PM (w6EFb)

More CO2 in the atmosphere will make it sparkling again!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 10:55 PM (yky4J)

146 104 Sounds a lot like the highest point in Iowa, Hawkeye Point, elevation 1,670 feet.
Posted by: a.moron

Or the "Turtle Mountains" on the North Dakota/Manitoba border.

They're 400 feet taller than the surrounding plains.

Which is actually a pretty big hill for an area that got bulldozed by a glacier a few thousand years ago.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2026 10:34 PM (VHUov)


Hawkeye Point isn't noticeably higher in elevation than the surrounding terrain. Looking around it seemed like some of the surrounding areas might have actually been a little higher, but who knows? (the surveyor who marked it, I suppose).

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:55 PM (X5Jzz)

147 I remember when Tusk came out. Listened to AOR as a 13 year old. My god, was there shitposting back in the '70's for anything popular.
Back to the Egg by Wings and Tusk probably the most hated I can remember from 50 or so years ago.
Listening to entire albums from then, so much better than most singles of today.
Even Lobo sounds better than what is on the radio now.
Fashion? Just take a picture of the First Lady, that's all I need.
Love how Hugh Hewitt (Buckeye Bitch) complains to this day about USC's marching band being in this video.
Ain't not I to dot in Tusk or Fleetwood Mac!

Posted by: Don't fall for the doomers at November 08, 2026 10:56 PM (wcnaS)

148 Mystery Spot here in Santa Cruz, CA.
Don't waste your time unless you like optical illusions, but their bumper stickers are awesome. I plastered them all over rocks and derelict boats at remote surf spots in Mexico.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2026 10:56 PM (oq9dX)

149 Learned something new this week, I don’t like Ketamine. Doesn’t even matter how cute the anesthesiologist is.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 10:56 PM (+9wcF)

150 Infinity. The earth is flat.

Perfectly valid option in a fantasy roleplaying game, of course. The consequence is that with sufficient magnification and an Iowa-like flatness, you can see to the literal ends of the earth.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 08, 2026 10:58 PM (kYmoU)

151 Dave Chappell feels better that Charlie Kirk is dead
If at any time you spoke up a school, at a youth meeting, at church, or at a conference to TALK to people about your ideas in 100% FREE SPEACH and EXCHANGE of ideas;
Remember they want you silenced.
And Dead.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:58 PM (/+uur)

152 Learned something new this week, I don’t like Ketamine. Doesn’t even matter how cute the anesthesiologist is.

Have you tried snorting it off of someone's gentalia while they and their friends all have sex with you?

Posted by: The Cornell "rape" victim at November 08, 2026 10:59 PM (sKqQm)

153 126 It is bed time for those of us who wake up at a ridiculous hour. Plus, all the critters have settled and that is my sign.

Night all!

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 10:43 PM (ZdaMQ)

I assume Piper is referring to ridiculously early, not ridiculously late...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 10:59 PM (l3cgK)

154 Fifteen yo Carhartt leather belt pretty good shape.
Twenty yo, belt from the thrift, wear it with my jeans, still got a few years in it. Good leather lasts.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 10:59 PM (hPgrk)

155
Somebody may have mentioned it, but an approximate formula for the distance to the geometric horizon (ignoring refraction ) in miles for an observer height 'h' in feet is simply:

d = 1.22*sqrt(h).

That ignores refraction. It turns out that refraction can be seen as sort of inreasing the effective radius of the Erf, and for standard atmosphere, the refracted effective radius increased by a factor of ~ 7/6, and that gives a factor of d = 1.32*sqrt(h).

That's visible light. For radar, the effective radius is much larger, and that coefficient is about 4.12.

Posted by: Flerfer at November 08, 2026 10:59 PM (w6EFb)

156 Pipes continues to bring it. And I know nothing about women's shoes.
Posted by: Diogenes
.......

Me neither, but they don't look very comfortable.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2026 11:00 PM (oq9dX)

157 151 Dave Chappell feels better that Charlie Kirk is dead
If at any time you spoke up a school, at a youth meeting, at church, or at a conference to TALK to people about your ideas in 100% FREE SPEACH and EXCHANGE of ideas;
Remember they want you silenced.
And Dead.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 10:58 PM (/+uur)

And I'm sure he'd feel happy hearing somebody say, "I feel so much better since Malcom X was killed."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:00 PM (l3cgK)

158 130

I understand the argument that Thune couldn't get the lefty Reps to vote for SAVE and other important initiatives. Perhaps , if we ever get another senate majority again, that not only is retaining the Republican majority dependent on getting things done so is their cushy title that will get them $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:45 PM (sKqQm)


Fine, then put the bill in front of them and make them vote against it. Then next primary season go into their district and point out to voters how they voted.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 11:00 PM (X5Jzz)

159 156 Pipes continues to bring it. And I know nothing about women's shoes.
Posted by: Diogenes
.......

Me neither, but they don't look very comfortable.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2026 11:00 PM (oq9dX)

I think shoes are to women as Klingon pain sticks are to Klingons...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:01 PM (l3cgK)

160 152 Learned something new this week, I don’t like Ketamine. Doesn’t even matter how cute the anesthesiologist is.

Have you tried snorting it off of someone's gentalia while they and their friends all have sex with you?

Posted by: The Cornell "rape" victim at November 08, 2026 10:59 PM (sKqQm)

How does one short wet Ketamine?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:01 PM (l3cgK)

161 Remember they want you silenced.
And Dead.


That is one of the more odd things in dealing with the GOPe.

They believe, clearly, that the left isn't able to get on with the killing it incessantly talks about so they can just focus on getting their "generational wealth" even while the left literally backs up their words and murders anyone they see as not of the body.

And even more then Kirk, remember that healthcare CEO they assassinated was every bit a well likely member of the leftwing "polite company" that the GOPers themselves are only sort of part of...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 11:01 PM (sKqQm)

162 151 Dave Chappell feels better that Charlie Kirk is dead
If at any time you spoke up a school, at a youth meeting, at church, or at a conference to TALK to people about your ideas in 100% FREE SPEACH and EXCHANGE of ideas;
Remember they want you silenced.
And Dead.

Posted by: r hennigantx

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:01 PM (hPgrk)

163 >> How far away is the horizon?

Infinity. The earth is flat.
Posted by: Flerfer at November 08, 2026 10:52 PM (w6EFb)


That’s why you can never see the horizon, and ships never sink below it. /sarc

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:02 PM (ZVgZ4)

164
The fact that on the ocean (or something really "flat" in the sense of no local topography and a clear horizon) you see a clean, clear horizon boundary is all the proof you need the earth is not flat.

On an infinite flat plane (or one big enough to approximate it), the horizon would not be sharp, but sort of fuzzy, especially with an atmosphere that somehow behaved the same way it does on earth.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 11:03 PM (w6EFb)

165 And to be the nitpicky person for the evening - those sweater are not fairisle - they are color work.

And I love the simple wearable everyday look of the Target outfits.

Thanks Doef and Piper!!

Posted by: SnailRacer at November 08, 2026 11:03 PM (OpMh5)

166 163 >> How far away is the horizon?

Infinity. The earth is flat.
Posted by: Flerfer at November 08, 2026 10:52 PM (w6EFb)

That’s why you can never see the horizon, and ships never sink below it. /sarc

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:02 PM (ZVgZ4)

Ships ALWAYS sink below it...otherwise, they'd sink upwards.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:03 PM (l3cgK)

167 Philly ‘Kristallnacht’ Bike Ride vs. Rejected Glass Blowing shards.
Discuss amongst yourselves

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 11:03 PM (/+uur)

168 I think shoes are to women as Klingon pain sticks are to Klingons...

I’ve seen a few that could wield their purse like a bat’leth, so this makes sense.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 11:04 PM (+9wcF)

169 It's time for Trump to acknowledge that we are living in an extra-judicial world.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:04 PM (hPgrk)

170 167 Philly ‘Kristallnacht’ Bike Ride vs. Rejected Glass Blowing shards.
Discuss amongst yourselves

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 11:03 PM (/+uur)

Philly "Kristalnacht" Bike Ride needs to meet some Mexican barbed wire (e.g. broken glass cemented on the tops of walls)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:04 PM (l3cgK)

171 157

And I'm sure he'd feel happy hearing somebody say, "I feel so much better since Malcom X was killed."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:00 PM (l3cgK)


Or Saint MLK.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 11:04 PM (X5Jzz)

172 Neither here nor there...
I'm not a particularly religious gal.
But, I have a lovely copy of Dali's Last Supper on my wall. Each time I pass it, I high-five Jesus. It feels nice for me❣️...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 11:04 PM (96kpa)

173 "I don’t believe we should move to leadership elections until we have digested and debated the lessons of the midterms and how to move forward."

"We need leadership in place fast, but Tuesday is too soon."
----

Yeah, the Senate had no effective leadership during the entirety of the first 2 years of Trumps second term, so what's the rush in bring back the traitor?

Posted by: Crusader at November 08, 2026 11:05 PM (Cjcf6)

174 >> That’s why you can never see the horizon, and ships never sink below it. /sarc

You wouldn't believe how the Flerfs argue and dispute this. It's amazing the idiocy they come up with.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 11:05 PM (w6EFb)

175 How does one short wet Ketamine?...

I’d guess with a lot of effort.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 11:05 PM (+9wcF)

176 168 I think shoes are to women as Klingon pain sticks are to Klingons...

I’ve seen a few that could wield their purse like a bat’leth, so this makes sense.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 08, 2026 11:04 PM (+9wcF)

My wife, God rest her soul, would pack so much heavy stuff in her purse that during our marriage she broke more than a few purse handles...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:05 PM (l3cgK)

177 How far away is the horizon?

Infinity. The earth is flat.
Posted by: Flerfer

That’s why you can never see the horizon, and ships never sink below it. /sarc
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit


That's just Earth's gravity bending the light.

Posted by: a different Flerfer at November 08, 2026 11:07 PM (VHUov)

178 No offense to Piper, but I quit Targhey when they were about the 1st big company to say "trannies can use the ladies restrooms" which I actually didn't initially think was a big deal and then called customers who voiced legitimate concerns narrow minded transphobes in a very snotty way.

Snooty, toffy nosed ,doubling down when a company's actual customers point out a problem is the thing that will make me drop a brand or company when I hear about it, and it would take a lot to for me to go back to one of them.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 08, 2026 11:08 PM (PV+Zw)

179 Now I know where that women's phrase " it was a steal" comes from. I don't know how Walmart makes a profit.

Posted by: Case at November 08, 2026 11:09 PM (En+fz)

180 I looked at my congressional race and compared 2022 to 2026.

Rep gained 10% total votes vs 2022.
Dem gained 40% vs 2022.

Rep still won comfortably, but it wasn’t the blowout it usually is.

This is a congressional seat that has been Republican since the 90s, in a red state spanning almost exclusively red counties and I mean RED counties like 70-30 levels red in presidential elections.

It wasn’t fraud that caused a massive increase in Dem votes. Unless you believe a bunch of red counties in a red state all got together to help a Democrat cheat.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:10 PM (LkRIT)

181 I don’t like Ketamine. Doesn’t even matter how cute the anesthesiologist is.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
........

I fell in love with my anesthesiologist for about 10 seconds, but when I woke up she left me before I could propose properly. It came out like: "Didd I hab surgee?"

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2026 11:10 PM (oq9dX)

182 It's time for Trump to acknowledge that we are living in an extra-judicial world.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:04 PM (hPgrk)


Start searching for EO 13848.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:10 PM (ZVgZ4)

183 Thanks Doef and Piper!!
Posted by: SnailRacer at November 08, 2026 11:03 PM (OpMh5)


Howdy SnailRacer!!

Posted by: Doof at November 08, 2026 11:11 PM (QMAsf)

184 158 130

I understand the argument that Thune couldn't get the lefty Reps to vote for SAVE and other important initiatives. Perhaps , if we ever get another senate majority again, that not only is retaining the Republican majority dependent on getting things done so is their cushy title that will get them $$$

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 10:45 PM (sKqQm)

Fine, then put the bill in front of them and make them vote against it. Then next primary season go into their district and point out to voters how they voted.

Posted by: a.moron a
---

Couldn't, can't, piss in pants.
Pull all their funding, pull all of their assignments,
take away every privilege he has authority to do.
Did he do that?
No.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:13 PM (hPgrk)

185 Chapels has always be a piece of shit.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:15 PM (LkRIT)

186 Start searching for EO 13848.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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Well and good.
Now, let's do US of A.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:15 PM (hPgrk)

187 Doesn't matter if it failed, you put it out, so the rest of us (and Trump) could have put pressure on the Senate squishes to vote the right way. Our guys are way too compliant with the Left. Well, it won't matter by January 20th...
Then the Reps can send out THRICE the number of the usual fundraising pleas, saying they can't do anything since they don't have the House or Senate! Assholes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:16 PM (l3cgK)

188 Happy Sunday. Went to a family birthday party, everyone brought a pot of soup so we had 3 to choose from, plus 3 varieties of bread.

Piper, i like the fair isle sweaters. Gotta knit faster. One of my favorite parts of fall/winter clothing is texture. Velvet, corduroy, sweaters, etc. No shaggy purple muppet for me though.

Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 11:16 PM (3j87q)

189 Good evening morons en bedankt Disko en Piper

I've got that Edison Lighthouse tune on my playlist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 11:17 PM (RIvkX)

190 I'm a bit mystified how AI can use image scraping (essentially, stealing someone else's photos) to present a product that is entirely based on theft.

For example, suppose you photograph an historical landmark for a feature article published in an archeological magazine. And, you own the rights to the photo.

Now, someone using AI requests a photo of the landmark you photographed.

In a significant number of cases, the photo AI provides to the requester will have an obvious blurred watermark of the the photo's owner. And, yet the courts have been siding with the AI providers under Fair Use.

Posted by: Orson at November 08, 2026 11:17 PM (dIske)

191 Piper, i like the fair isle sweaters. Gotta knit faster. One of my favorite parts of fall/winter clothing is texture. Velvet, corduroy, sweaters, etc. No shaggy purple muppet for me though.
Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 11:16 PM (3j87q)


It will help you blend in with the bath rug.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 11:18 PM (rbvCR)

192 SnailRacer, do you knit?

Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 11:18 PM (3j87q)

193 >>>but I quit Targhey when they ...
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Told Santa to hit the road. ...profitably corrupt, they are

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:19 PM (hPgrk)

194 Kindltot, can i use it to hide from my kids?? Sometimes moms need a break...

Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 11:19 PM (3j87q)

195 I skied the Turtle Mountains, back in the day.

Posted by: free tibet at November 08, 2026 11:20 PM (1wtUm)

196 Repeal B.O.care?
Pass the SAVE act?
Nah.
But they will fund the gubmint next month.
Assholes, I hate them all.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2026 11:22 PM (oq9dX)

197 119 The formula comes from the Pythagorean theorem where the legs are d and r and the hypotenuse is h + r, using the approximation that the distance d to the horizon subtends a small angle so that the arc distance to the horizon is well approximated by the straight line distance d.

I'd have to rely on the Pink Floyd theorem and derive infinity as the distance to the horizon. Recall that:

"You run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking, racing around to come up behind you again".

Posted by: meh at November 08, 2026 11:23 PM (EkJwg)

198 It wasn’t fraud that caused a massive increase in Dem votes. Unless you believe a bunch of red counties in a red state all got together to help a Democrat cheat.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:10 PM (LkRIT)


Did we learn nothing from 2020? The cheat doesn’t have to be local. The voting machines are hooked up to the internet. This was proven in court in Georgia. If the machine whose name starts with “D” does this, you can bet your bippie the rest of them do too. If they’re hooked up to the internet then anyone, and particularly highly motivated foreign agents, can manipulate the vote. The algorithm used has already been reverse engineered. It’s just the the Republicans get the Trump vote in 2024 minus 15%, and the Democrats get Kamala 2024 + 15%. Almost all the results follow this except Collins in Maine, where an extra “squeeze” was laid on to insure her loss. Go looking on X. Also expect action 45 days after the election, that would be Dec. 11. This is in accord with Trump’s EO 13848. This will involve the Space Force tracking the scam and delivering a report to the President on that date. This is assuming foreign interference.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:25 PM (ZVgZ4)

199 The yarns used these days seem to be short and tend to pill after only a couple of wearings.

Pisses me off. I don’t recall the sweaters of my youth pilling. Not at all.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 11:26 PM (yEz+x)

200 >>>
In a significant number of cases, the photo AI provides to the requester will have an obvious blurred watermark of the the photo's owner. And, yet the courts have been siding with the AI providers under Fair Use.

Posted by: Orson
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ROLOL, that's what extra-judicial means.

Amodi twins / Sam Altman, hey oooooooh

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:27 PM (hPgrk)

201 Theoretically it is possible to fly around the Earth in a jet such that the Sun never sets. You would want a supersonic jet and might need inflight refueling, but it could be done.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:29 PM (ZVgZ4)

202 Bucs just tied it

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 11:29 PM (ZOopj)

203 Distance to horizon is 10 miles unless you are at the top of the mast, then it's further. Right Straw?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:30 PM (hPgrk)

204 198
Simple hack:
One vote R = 2 votes D.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2026 11:31 PM (oq9dX)

205 >>>Also expect action 45 days after the election, ...

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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I want my action and I want it now.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 11:32 PM (hPgrk)

206 201 Theoretically it is possible to fly around the Earth in a jet such that the Sun never sets. You would want a supersonic jet and might need inflight refueling, but it could be done.

But that invokes the Superman lemma, in which case time would flow backwards and the horizon would run to negative infinity.

Posted by: meh at November 08, 2026 11:33 PM (EkJwg)

207 Chapels has always be a piece of shit.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:15 PM (LkRIT)
-

More details. Worser and worser:

Dr. Johnny @drjohnny__

I was at the Chapelle show at MSG last night… can confirm. His whole set was about 80 mins and he spent about half of it ripping on Charlie Kirk, Trump, & Epstein. I kept waiting for the funny parts and then it just ended.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 11:33 PM (Y+4g7)

208 This is in accord with Trump’s EO 13848. This will involve the Space Force tracking the scam and delivering a report to the President on that date. This is assuming foreign interference.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Space Force? Good lord.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:36 PM (LkRIT)

209 Hiya {{{nurse}}}!!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 11:36 PM (96kpa)

210 Wool pilling: seems to depend on the quality of the wool. Better wool means less pilling. Of course the better wool costs a lot more. I have an old mohair sweater which despite its age has never shown any signs of pilling.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:37 PM (ZVgZ4)

211 207 Chapels has always be a piece of shit.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:15 PM (LkRIT)
-

More details. Worser and worser:

Dr. Johnny @drjohnny__

I was at the Chapelle show at MSG last night… can confirm. His whole set was about 80 mins and he spent about half of it ripping on Charlie Kirk, Trump, & Epstein. I kept waiting for the funny parts and then it just ended.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 11:33 PM (Y+4g7)

Folks like him think it's fine when someone who advocated for debates over violence are killed. As a poster mentioned earlier, how would he feel if a comedian said the same things about MLK Jr.? Or maybe he doesn't care, as MLK Jr. was a registered Repub.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:37 PM (l3cgK)

212
The Concorde could easily beat the rotation of the Erf, even at the equator -- at high latitudes, it was no contest going west. In fact, back in the day, people with more money than sense used to charter flights on New Year's Eve just to ring in the new year multiple times.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 11:38 PM (w6EFb)

213 210 Wool pilling: seems to depend on the quality of the wool. Better wool means less pilling. Of course the better wool costs a lot more. I have an old mohair sweater which despite its age has never shown any signs of pilling.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:37 PM (ZVgZ4)

I don't think I'd like to consume a wool pill...sounds itchy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:38 PM (l3cgK)

214 Space Force monitors the internet. What did you think they did, fly the Starship Enterprise?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

215 the machine whose name starts with “D” does this, you can bet your bippie the rest of them do too. If they’re hooked up to the internet then anyone, and particularly highly motivated foreign agents, can manipulate the vote.

_

So foreign agents gave the Dem in my CD a bunch of extra votes so the loss would be 15 instead of 25. And why would they do this?

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:39 PM (LkRIT)

216 212
The Concorde could easily beat the rotation of the Erf, even at the equator -- at high latitudes, it was no contest going west. In fact, back in the day, people with more money than sense used to charter flights on New Year's Eve just to ring in the new year multiple times.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 11:38 PM (w6EFb)

You could do it the redneck way and just celebrate each time a time zone hits the new year...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:40 PM (l3cgK)

217 COMM!

Hugs to you, sweet lady! You getting ready to hunker down for winter?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 11:40 PM (yEz+x)

218 Did we learn nothing from 2020? The cheat doesn’t have to be local.“

I don’t know about other states, but in Texas it DOES have to be local. All 254 counties do their own counting; all 254 counties retain paper copies of each ballot available for recounting. All 254 counties can check the States reported total for their county against their own private reported total

So for there to be cheating responsibile for this in Texas, it would require 254 separate but coordinated fraud operations, existing in even the most conservative counties.

Furthermore, since Paxton, Abbot, and Dan Patrick were all responsible for overseeing the security of this system, it would require their willing cooperation.

There are only two logical options: a) this was a systemic shift in the electorate due to voter dissatisfaction, or b) this was a conspiracy so vast and powerful that it cannot possibly be defeated and its best to just give up now.
I do not believe the latter, thus it would be wise to consider what mistakes we made to get here.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2026 11:41 PM (dJgiD)

219 214 Space Force monitors the internet. What did you think they did, fly the Starship Enterprise?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

Marines drop commies from Helicopters...
Airforce drops commies from cargo jets...
Navy drops commies into the Marianas Trench with cement boots.
Space Force drops them from a decaying low-Earth orbit...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:42 PM (l3cgK)

220
Another funny thing. If you circumnavigate the globe going west, you'll "lose" exactly one day. Going east, you'll gain a day. Doesn't matter how long it takes, when you return to your starting point, you'll have that one day difference.

This blew the minds of Magellan's crew when they returned.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 11:42 PM (w6EFb)

221 Pilling is a feature of how tightly yarn is spun and if it has a nap (fuzzy halo of hairs sticks out). The more tightly spun, the less likely to pill. But a tighter ply makes a rougher hand (how it feels) and we are so so addicted to soft! I'd rather have a more rustic yarn that holds up than super soft but scuzzy via pilling.

Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 11:43 PM (3j87q)

222 There are only two logical options: a) this was a systemic shift in the electorate due to voter dissatisfaction, or b) this was a conspiracy so vast and powerful that it cannot possibly be defeated and its best to just give up now.
I do not believe the latter, thus it would be wise to consider what mistakes we made to get here.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2026 11:41 PM (dJgiD)

C. China printed up tons of ballots for each county around the country...

okay, that was semi-sarcasm.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:44 PM (l3cgK)

223 179 Now I know where that women's phrase " it was a steal" comes from. I don't know how Walmart makes a profit.
Posted by: Case at November 08, 2026 11:09 PM (En+fz)

Walmart heavily prosecutes shoplifters and will take them to court even if they lose money by doing so. Plus they have tons of surveillance cameras and they see everything. Not a good idea to steal there.

Posted by: Joemarine at November 08, 2026 11:44 PM (y171U)

224 220
Another funny thing. If you circumnavigate the globe going west, you'll "lose" exactly one day. Going east, you'll gain a day. Doesn't matter how long it takes, when you return to your starting point, you'll have that one day difference.

This blew the minds of Magellan's crew when they returned.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 11:42 PM (w6EFb)

And was a plot "surprise" in "Around the World in 80 days"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:45 PM (l3cgK)

225 "It reminds me of one of the oddball places I'd like to visit. Panorama Point, NE. The highest point in Nebraska."

Nebraska doesn't get any love, but NE Nebraska is lovely, especially in late spring when everything is green. It's not spectacular, just rolling hills, meadows, and valleys; nor is it especially pretty. Rather, it's beautiful, and beautifully humane.

We've visited the Ashfall Fossil Beds state park in NE Nebraska twice, and found it absolutely fascinating. If you're into palentology at all, it's a must-see.

Posted by: Nemo at November 08, 2026 11:48 PM (4RPgu)

226 And was a plot "surprise" in "Around the World in 80 days"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)


Spoiler alert!!

Posted by: mikeski, tongue firmly in cheek at November 08, 2026 11:49 PM (VHUov)

227 Where was Trump holding rallies? Mississippi, South Carolina, Kansas.

That should have been a sign things weren’t going well.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:49 PM (LkRIT)

228 We've visited the Ashfall Fossil Beds state park in NE Nebraska twice, and found it absolutely fascinating. If you're into palentology at all, it's a must-see.
Posted by: Nemo at November 08, 2026 11:48 PM (4RPgu)

I’ve read about that and it sounds absolutely fascinating! I just don’t get near Nebraska very often.

I think that deposit was created by one of the Yellowstone caldera explosions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2026 11:52 PM (dJgiD)

229 So foreign agents gave the Dem in my CD a bunch of extra votes so the loss would be 15 instead of 25. And why would they do this?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 11:39 PM (LkRIT)


You can’t cheat too blatantly or even someone like you would have to admit it. For example my county remained strongly Republican because that’s who we are. If my county had flipped, it would have been as blatant as the middle of the night “recounting” that went on in 2020. See the video from the Fulton County arena. Nothing could be done about it then, but Trump knew this could happen and has his ducks in a row. Tell me I’m wrong on or around Dec. 11. That’s when the report’s due according to the EO: 45 days after the election.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 11:52 PM (ZVgZ4)

230 217 nurse
Believe it or not, it's still quite pleasant here. That dang climate change ya know/sarcasm of course....
I'm so looking forward to snow!
Howzit out your way? Get in touch when you you have a moment...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 11:56 PM (96kpa)

231
You can see that one day loss/gain as a smooth thing. Going west one complete circle, the earth "laps" you once. You made one less revolution relative to the sun than your starting point did. Going east, you lap the earth, and make one more solar revolution that the earth.

Doing it the discrete time-zone way, the one day increment would occur at the 180 degree meridian, international date line mark. Going west, you'd increment your day counter. Going east, you'd decrement when you crossed.

Of course, with an accurate uniform clock on board, it wouldn't be a problem anyway. You'd just notice at some point the sun had made one more or one less sunrise/set cycles than the clock indicated.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 11:57 PM (w6EFb)

232 Geez pretty sure the last time I got "top" was when I was convalescing from surgery in 2010. Not a good week for me, I guess. Stupid commie faggots.

Posted by: ... at November 08, 2026 11:57 PM (vE0+H)

233 okay, that was semi-sarcasm.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 11:44 PM (l3cgK)

Just to be pedantic, those outside of Texas most likely don’t know the system we use. When I went to vote, I show my id and am directed to a table top vote machine. I make my selections on the screen, and when I finish and say ok that machine prints out a paper ballot with my selections indicated. I can review it to make sure it accurately reflected my wishes, and I did. As you leave the room you drop your paper ballot off at the ballot box for that polling place.

Each county counts its own paper ballots separately, and only turns the totals in to the state. Each county can then check their own totals against the states totals to make sure they are accurately recorded.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2026 11:59 PM (dJgiD)

234 Screamin' the Blues:

https://tinyurl.com/mpwmh8sd

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:02 AM (hPgrk)

235
Speaking of the idiot flat earth crap, Dave McKeegan on youtube has become one of the best flat-earth and Moon landing hoax debunkers (these two go together like a hand in a glove). He's a photographer, and he can really get in the details of some of the supposed problems with the Apollo photos and all that (some of the Moon hoaxers aren't flat earth/space-is-fake nutjobs, and they are not as crazy, but they still spew stupidity with a lot of their claims about the problems with Apollo).

Anyway, here's a recent one he did. A surveyor, took some measurements with a theodolite of a light house across the water, in order to show drop due to earth's curvature and all that. The Flerfs argue with this:

https://t.ly/HiKfW

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 12:04 AM (w6EFb)

236
For example my county remained strongly Republican because that’s who we are.

My county was for as long as I can remember.
It changed Tuesday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:04 AM (Cqx++)

237
The Flerfer's claim that we have some magical "visual angle limit" which accounts for the drop below the horizon (this makes absolutely no geometric, much less physical sense).

You see, one minute of arc corresponds to a certain distance due to this "visual angle resolution limit". And what is that, well about 1 nautical mile, which is the arc length of one minute of arc along a circle with the radius of earth.

The earth isn't a sphere, oh now, it's just entirely a coincidence that this "angle limit" corresponds to a sphere of exactly the mean radius of the earth.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 12:09 AM (w6EFb)

238 _

So foreign agents gave the Dem in my CD a bunch of extra votes so the loss would be 15 instead of 25. And why would they do this?

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
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No. It's fucking magic. It just happened if front your eyes.
You know it's ridiculous, you know it's improbable and probably
impossible but it happened. It's magic, don't you see.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:10 AM (hPgrk)

239
Each county counts its own paper ballots separately, and only turns the totals in to the state. Each county can then check their own totals against the states totals to make sure they are accurately recorded.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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And it's all done on a computerized electronic machine.
Also, the State law permits anyone with a utility bill to vote,
each county may make its own voting law but that's state law.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:13 AM (hPgrk)

240 The vote totals in Texas are only surprising because few of us have processed how much the state has changed recently. According to the US Census Bureau, as of 2026 Texas is:
Hispanic/Latino: 41.7%
White/Non-Hispanic: 37%
Black/Asian/Other: 21%

In this election, Hispanics voted 75/25 for Dems (in 2024 it was more like 50/50)
White/Non-Hispanic were about 75/25 GOP
Black/Asian/Other was about 80/20 Dem.

Work out those numbers, and you get 31+9+15 = Dems end up with 55% of the vote, wiping out the GOP at all levels.
( assuming equal turnout, but actually Hispanic turnout was very heavy)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 12:16 AM (dJgiD)

241 And it's all done on a computerized electronic machine.
Also, the State law permits anyone with a utility bill to vote,
each county may make its own voting law but that's state law.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:13 AM (hPgrk)

Abbot, Paxton, and the Republican legislature were responsible for upholding that law. Not the Dems.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 12:19 AM (dJgiD)

242 The Great Replacement

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:21 AM (Cqx++)

243 I saw a darkly amusing thread.

Apparently the Dems are calling for more $$$ for Ukraine now.

A thread asked, "Dems, I thought you said wars are bad...but now after you win an election you want to spend more on wars?!?"

All the responses were variants on, "But the Ukraine war is a good war so of course we want to spend more money on it!"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:21 AM (sKqQm)

244 My state had one US Senate seat up for election.
I voted for the Republican. He won

My state has 7 US House seats.
5 of those seats Republicans won.
Including my my Representative that I voted for.

The other big election in my state was Governor.
I voted for the Republican, he won.

I done my part. I voted. Not anything else I could do.
This election may have been stolen across the country
I don't know. But it's over. Time to move on.

Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 12:23 AM (En+fz)

245
Abbot, Paxton, and the Republican legislature were responsible for upholding that law. Not the Dems.

Posted by: Tom Servo
---

Non sequitur.

Now, tell me again that Mexicans turned out in larger numbers than ever for faggotry, child mutilation and transsexualism. Change their minds from year before last?



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:23 AM (hPgrk)

246 My county was for as long as I can remember.
It changed Tuesday.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:04 AM (Cqx++)


Did your county really change, or were your votes changed for you? After 2020, I don’t trust any sort of electronic voting machine. I know the ones in my state, installed at the insistence of our outgoing Uniparty governor, are designed to be hacked via the internet. This was shown in court, here in Georgia. I don’t believe an extra 20 million Democrats showed up out of nowhere for the midterms any more than Biden got a record number of votes in 2020. Trust your gut: has your county really changed?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:24 AM (ZVgZ4)

247 this was a systemic shift in the electorate due to voter dissatisfaction

This is where I am at right now.

The Media/Dem mantra of gas prices, gas prices, gas prices got pretty much *all* of the LIVs to vote for the same people that had the same high gas prices the last time they held the white house.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:24 AM (sKqQm)

248
242 The Great Replacement
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:21 AM (Cqx++)

Yes, it happened. Texas is exhibit A. We might as well be part of Mexico now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 12:24 AM (dJgiD)

249 >>>Time to move on.

Posted by: Case
---

Move on to where?
Move on to what?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:25 AM (hPgrk)

250 Now, tell me again that Mexicans turned out in larger numbers than ever for faggotry, child mutilation and transsexualism. Change their minds from year before last?


My honest guess? Almost none of those hispanic LIVs had ever even seen a picture of Talarico let alone read any vaguely objective take on his history, political stances, and what he would do if elected

They heard, "Deeply Christian who will lower gas prices and make Trump stop being mean".

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:26 AM (sKqQm)

251 I done my part. I voted. Not anything else I could do.
This election may have been stolen across the country
I don't know. But it's over. Time to move on.
Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 12:23 AM (En+fz)


Roll over. Move on. No!
If Trump doesn’t take action on or around Dec. 11, I’ll listen to your advice. In the meantime, read up on EO 13848.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:30 AM (ZVgZ4)

252
Now, tell me again that Mexicans turned out in larger numbers than ever for faggotry, child mutilation and transsexualism.

Those things are far-out abstractions to them.
They voted against ICE.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:31 AM (Cqx++)

253 I done my part. I voted. Not anything else I could do.
This election may have been stolen across the country
I don't know. But it's over. Time to move on.

Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 12:23 AM (En+fz)

Yeah, same here.
I voted R for Gov, D won
I voted R for all other executive elections, D won
I voted against bonds and for election integrity props, bonds won, election integrity lost.
Only a few props went well, almost all went left.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 12:31 AM (l3cgK)

254 My honest guess? Almost none of those hispanic LIVs had ever even seen a picture of Talarico let alone read any vaguely objective take on his history, political stances, and what he would do if elected

They heard, "Deeply Christian who will lower gas prices and make Trump stop being mean".

Posted by: 18-1
----

These same border Mexicans that turned out strong for Trump forgot why they turned out two years ago, heard him loud and clear, didn't hear a thing the past two years but Talarico good.
Don't believe it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:31 AM (hPgrk)

255 You can see that one day loss/gain as a smooth thing. Going west one complete circle, the earth "laps" you once. You made one less revolution relative to the sun than your starting point did. Going east, you lap the earth, and make one more solar revolution that the earth.
Posted by: publius


This also happens at the next level up, as the earth orbits the sun.

During it's (approx) 365.25 day trip around the sun, the earth rotates about 366.25 times.

Posted by: mikeski spins you right 'round at November 09, 2026 12:31 AM (VHUov)

256 Nebraska doesn't get any love, but NE Nebraska is lovely, especially in late spring when everything is green. It's not spectacular, just rolling hills, meadows, and valleys; nor is it especially pretty. Rather, it's beautiful, and beautifully humane.

We've visited the Ashfall Fossil Beds state park in NE Nebraska twice, and found it absolutely fascinating. If you're into palentology at all, it's a must-see.
Posted by: Nemo



My first assignment in the USAF was Elkhorn, NE (88-90). Small HF Comms site in the middle of a corn field. I have pics to prove it. That's a good description of NE. I agree. My ideal vacation is me, an RV, a starting point in the middle of the country (Kearny, Scottsbluff, whatever) and just drive around and explore.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 09, 2026 12:31 AM (sAmhv)

257 Those things are far-out abstractions to them.
They voted against ICE.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
---

Faggots and child mutilations are not abstractions.
Why did they turn out for Trump two years ago?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:33 AM (hPgrk)

258 Those things are far-out abstractions to them.
They voted against ICE.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
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THIS!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 09, 2026 12:33 AM (VCgbV)

259

That was a bunch of crap about them being "natural conservatives."
That was propaganda from Chamber of Commerce types.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:33 AM (Cqx++)

260 257 Those things are far-out abstractions to them.
They voted against ICE.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
---

Faggots and child mutilations are not abstractions.
Why did they turn out for Trump two years ago?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:33 AM (hPgrk)

Biden f'd up the economy, as inflation raised the prices of everything, despite the fact the Dems wanted to blame the Reps.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 12:33 AM (l3cgK)

261 Established Hispanics in Texas hate the border jumpers. I grew up in South Texas, I know firsthand what the typical Lower Rio Grande attitude to the illegals is. You guys black pill too easily.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:34 AM (ZVgZ4)

262 261 Established Hispanics in Texas hate the border jumpers. I grew up in South Texas, I know firsthand what the typical Lower Rio Grande attitude to the illegals is. You guys black pill too easily.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:34 AM (ZVgZ4)

Red pill, blue pill, black pill...

But wool pill? That'd be the muzzies (and select Scotsmen)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 12:35 AM (l3cgK)

263
This prompted to me to look up the various definitions of "horizon" to make sure I had it straight. I didn't. There are four horizons:

1) Astronomical horizon: This is the flat tangent plane passing through the observer's eye level.
2) Geometric horizon: The actual point where the observer's eye line is tangent to the surface.
3) Apparent horizon: The geometric horizon, but with refraction taken into account.
3) Visual horizon: The actual horizon you see with topography and trees and obstructions in the way.

On a flat 2D plane, 1 and 2 would be the same.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 12:35 AM (w6EFb)

264 261 Established Hispanics in Texas hate the border jumpers. I grew up in South Texas, I know firsthand what the typical Lower Rio Grande attitude to the illegals is. You guys black pill too easily.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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Yes; God, save us. We are witnessing why elected Pubbies get away with their BS. We live in Roll Over City.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:37 AM (hPgrk)

265 Now, tell me again that Mexicans turned out in larger numbers than ever for faggotry, child mutilation and transsexualism. Change their minds from year before last?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 12:23 AM (hPgrk)

They turned out because Ginojoza (who none of us Anglos knew) ran what was in retrospect a brilliant Anti-ICE campaign on all Spanish Language media, telling them constantly that they were all subject to being hunted down and arrested regardless of their citizenship status. We didn’t even know this was happening, so of course no Republican candidate responded to the claims at all.

I have several Hispanic acquaintances here who’ve told me how effective it was. Plus, Gina is cute and soft spoken, so Mexican Machismo meant every Mexican male had to vote for her. Outside of those two things, the rest was just whatever to them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 12:38 AM (dJgiD)

266 Today was warmer than usual, no rain, and the wind calmed this afternoon. Yay! So I was able to deal with my 1WP: Leaves.

Freaking leaves were flung far and wide across my half acre during last night's wind, after I'd raked up all that had fallen (straight down from the trees, concentrated in small areas) yesterday.

Tow-behind sweeper and lawn tractor FTW!

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 12:44 AM (rdVOm)

267 The apparent horizon is tricky on a hot day in Arizona: the line of sight from one mountain peak to another can curve upwards such that you can’t measure the curvature of the Earth. One of our physics majors measured this effect on a hot summer’s day over a blazing asphalt road for her senior project. You know those days when you see water on the road ahead that disappears when you get to it? You’re looking at blue sky when you thought you were looking at the road bed. She actually mapped out the deflection of the light and was able to plot the actual curvature upward. She now works as a researcher at one of the major synchrotron sites.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:45 AM (ZVgZ4)

268 Another weekend has drawn to a close. I am comfy and warm in my wool sweater as I sit at the keyboard. Last week is in the past, as upsetting as the election was I need to look forward and just keep living the best life that I can. I exist in a deep blue hellhole but there are still some family and great friends who bring joy to my life.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 09, 2026 12:46 AM (ibDUx)

269 Hi, Debby!

*Chivas for you*

Cheers!

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 12:48 AM (rdVOm)

270 If it all comes to nothing I will reevaluate my stand. Talk to me after Dec. 11.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:48 AM (ZVgZ4)

271
261 Established Hispanics in Texas hate the border jumpers. I grew up in South Texas, I know firsthand what the typical Lower Rio Grande attitude to the illegals is. You guys black pill too easily.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:34 AM (ZVgZ4)

Comparing 2024 to 2026: average 38 point shift from GOP to Dem in all 14 Hispanic majority border counties.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 12:49 AM (dJgiD)

272 266 Today was warmer than usual, no rain, and the wind calmed this afternoon. Yay! So I was able to deal with my 1WP: Leaves.

Freaking leaves were flung far and wide across my half acre during last night's wind, after I'd raked up all that had fallen (straight down from the trees, concentrated in small areas) yesterday.

Tow-behind sweeper and lawn tractor FTW!

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 12:44 AM (rdVOm)

Yeah, we had some heating this weekend...Got close to 90ºF the other day. Today was around 85ºF. The cooler nights make up for it (pump in some cool air before sunrise, don't have to use AC).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 12:54 AM (l3cgK)

273 Again your using the vote tallies as if it really reflects the actual votes.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:55 AM (ZVgZ4)

274 Good night! I’m willing to wait a month to see what the real results are.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 09, 2026 12:57 AM (ZVgZ4)

275 The Texas border counties will love what's coming for them after the 2028 election

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:58 AM (enNUy)

276 >> the earth rotates about 366.25 times.

Yes, indeed. This also comes into play with the infamous coin rotation "paradox". Same principle at work.

With planets, rotation (spin) and revolution (orbit) there is the general "synodic period" formula, and that 1 revolution difference is easily seen there, as the difference in angular frequency.

Consider an orbiting body that wasn't spinning. The sun would appear to move backwards, west to east. If you got that backwards apparent synodic period as negative, the formula works generally, including for retrograde rotation.

In the case of synchronous rotation (tidal lock), the frequency difference comes to zero, or an infinite synodic period.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 12:58 AM (w6EFb)

277 56 35 As a failing writer of no note, I, too, am concerned about the use of AI in creative endeavors. I already can't sell anything. If AI takes over, I never will. This will make me sad. And effect my financial situation.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:15 PM (1Ff7Z)

Probably "affect" it, too.

Sorry.
Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:20 PM (X5Jzz)

Also, the math doesn't add up.

1) I already can't sell anything.
2) If AI takes over, I never will [sell anything]. This will ... [affect] my financial situation.

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 12:59 AM (odBC9)

278 Thanks JQ, Cheers!

I haven't tackled the leaves yet, we had wind and rain all weekend, the ground is covered in leaves. I'll have to wait for them to dry out before I attempt to remove them. When I was growing up we could just burn the leaves, now we must put them into recyclable bags for the town to pick them up. I usually just rake up what I can and dump them in the the back corner of the yard and let them disintegrate there.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 09, 2026 01:00 AM (ibDUx)

279 60-65F is perfect for working outdoors. If I get another dry day this week, maybe will put up the Christmas lights.

Got to do the leaves first, though. PITA. Used to be so much worse, with *many more* trees, so not really complaining. Hah.

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:00 AM (rdVOm)

280
That's why some people will argue to the death that the Moon doesn't rotate. It boils down to their mental picture of what rotation means, which is different than the actual physics/Newtonian definition of rotation in inertial space.

I tried six ways to Sunday with one of these one time, and realized there was no way I was gonna get him to see the Moon was actually rotating once per orbit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 01:06 AM (w6EFb)

281 We hand wind yesterday too, now my bigleaf maple is naked!

Posted by: Funsize at November 09, 2026 01:07 AM (3j87q)

282 I remember we used to burn leaves, when I was little. Dad had a big old steel drum for that.

My town has weekly (except during January and February--once a month then) yard waste collection, and they start everyone with one 96-gallon wheelie bin.

I ordered 3 extras and fill them all almost every week, year 'round. Neighbors all have extra bins, too. We use each others' bins when needed. It's a good system, for the price. I couldn't run my truck out to the compost place each week, for the same $. Shhhh! Don't tell the city that!

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:07 AM (rdVOm)

283 Late but love the sunset photo and Tusk by Fleetwood Mac, being the mother of HS band nerds.

Those kids were thrilled out of their minds to make this cut & march on stage and meet them.

I have always loved seeing Stevie Nicks twirl that baton. She knew what she was doing. I could in HS but not that good (a band majorette taught me).

Thanks Doof and Piper.

I've been ripping through my closets for funeral clothing. Of course Mother could decide to stick around til spring as we never know riding this 2mo roller coaster of hers. She's doing ok & lots of people calling her. She's very weak but cheerful.

I might buy an expensive merino dress as I'd wear it here anyway. Burgundy, Piper!

I have always loved this color. It's not often you live to be 95 or 96yrs and she deserves some color and a celebration when the time comes. Once this is decided i can put that to rest. Have plenty of black winter skirts and sweaters.

A search for "black long sleeve sweater dress" revealed some nice ones along with hooker or party clothing... and cheap fabric that probably melts in rain.

That will not do unless I arrive fresh from the asylum. Doing ok. Yesterday not ok. All will be well.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 01:11 AM (hzuYO)

284
One of those six ways to Sunday was having him imagine a car driving around us in a circle. The car keeps its nose in the direction of travel (it has to, as that's how steering works), and so completes one rotation about it's own axis per circuit around us. That's exactly how the Moon's tidal lock works.

He objected the car didn't rotate, either, and I realized the problem. His definition of rotation was well, relative to the tangent vector, the direction of travel. His definition was thus the "synodic frequency" which is zero.

That's physically wrong, per the defintion of rotation and accleration relative to an inertial frame, but that's how he thought of it, and there was no convincing him otherwise.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 01:11 AM (w6EFb)

285 Trees are only half-done shedding leaves here.

Soon!

And then I can put the tractor & sweeper away for a while.

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:12 AM (rdVOm)

286 I need to look forward and just keep living the best life that I can. I exist in a deep blue hellhole but there are still some family and great friends who bring joy to my life.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
.......

My daughter keeps reminding of this without saying it. She gave me three grandkids who treat me like a king. We have deep roots here in CA and I will make the best it. Screw these idiot politicians.

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:13 AM (oq9dX)

287 That "scenic overlook" has to be AI, because otherwise I'd know exactly where it is.

Posted by: pookysgirl knows exactly where Hawkeye Point is at November 09, 2026 01:14 AM (Wt5PA)

288 280
That's why some people will argue to the death that the Moon doesn't rotate. It boils down to their mental picture of what rotation means, which is different than the actual physics/Newtonian definition of rotation in inertial space.

I tried six ways to Sunday with one of these one time, and realized there was no way I was gonna get him to see the Moon was actually rotating once per orbit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 01:06 AM (w6EFb)

Earth spins as the moon rotates around it's own axis and around the earf. One rotation around the moon's axis = 1 rotation around the earth (given the moon is tidally locked to earth, so we always see the same face) which is around 27.3 days...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 01:15 AM (l3cgK)

289 When I was in IA - Idiots Out Walking Around - there was lots of corn, and windmills. I rather liked the state capitol at Des Moines, I must admit. Some people think it too gaudy, too much, but I am a sucker for a gold dome. Maybe because the CO state capitol was the first I visited?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 01:15 AM (XTrBf)

290 275 The Texas border counties will love what's coming for them after the 2028 election
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:58 AM (enNUy)

I didn’t realize that election was canceled.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 01:17 AM (XTrBf)

291 Those things are far-out abstractions to them.
They voted against ICE.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 12:31 AM (Cqx++)

So why not go full bore and end CBP as well?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 01:19 AM (XTrBf)

292 286 I need to look forward and just keep living the best life that I can. I exist in a deep blue hellhole but there are still some family and great friends who bring joy to my life.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
.......

My daughter keeps reminding of this without saying it. She gave me three grandkids who treat me like a king. We have deep roots here in CA and I will make the best it. Screw these idiot politicians.
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:13 AM (oq9dX)
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I heard a speech yesterday by Stephen Miller.

Liberals, antifa, bluehaired and pierced weirdos are eaten up with anger and bitterness and act out. Never content. They are eaten up with demonic hatred.

Nothing ticks them off more than to see normal people happy, smiling, productive and content. Because most of us have God in our lives.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 01:19 AM (hzuYO)

293 They turned out because Ginojoza (who none of us Anglos knew) ran what was in retrospect a brilliant Anti-ICE campaign on all Spanish Language media, telling them constantly that they were all subject to being hunted down and arrested regardless of their citizenship status. We didn’t even know this was happening, so of course no Republican candidate responded to the claims at all.

I have several Hispanic acquaintances here who’ve told me how effective it was. Plus, Gina is cute and soft spoken, so Mexican Machismo meant every Mexican male had to vote for her. Outside of those two things, the rest was just whatever to them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 12:38 AM (dJgiD)

I’m half Anglo. A quarter German and a quarter Slav (from everywhere in Slavic Eastern Europe apparently).

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 01:22 AM (XTrBf)

294
283 Late but love the sunset photo and Tusk by Fleetwood Mac, being the mother of HS band nerds.

Those kids were thrilled out of their minds to make this cut & march on stage and meet them.

I have always loved seeing Stevie Nicks twirl that baton. She knew what she was doing. I could in HS but not that good (a band majorette taught me).

Thanks Doof and Piper.”

When I was a freshman in HS in Phoenix, I was in our matching band (brass section) and one of our first games was against Alhambra High, where Stevie Nix was head majorette. Of course no one knew who she was gonna be at the time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:31 AM (dJgiD)

295 I'm American. Probably end up knelt over a ditch, or worked to death in a labor camp. Pfft.

They *will not* make me love big brother.

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:32 AM (rdVOm)

296 Thanks Doof!

I thought the Horde would like the sunset pic.

I've been Jimmy Doolittle since LGF days. Want to keep their history alive. I have a few Doolittle'ish ness. Aerospace engineer, and also an owner/pilot of a Doolittle vintage 1937 Stinson Gullwing.

I don't plan on flying it to Tokyo anytime soon, but if I hitched a ride on a CVN or L-Class ship, I'd make it!

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at November 09, 2026 01:34 AM (mkPTt)

297 My humble contribution to the comment count .

I don't have much else to offer this college of knowledge but I can offer that.

Posted by: Late-Night Lurker at November 09, 2026 01:38 AM (u0Crq)

298 A real conversation starter, that's me.

Back to lurking. Carry on.

Posted by: Late-Night Lurker at November 09, 2026 01:43 AM (u0Crq)

299 Woo hoo.
I'm number one.
I'm also number 5.
That's due to Starlink.
If you use it in different places the hash changes.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 01:44 AM (0o1lz)

300 When I was a freshman in HS in Phoenix, I was in our matching band (brass section) and one of our first games was against Alhambra High, where Stevie Nix was head majorette. Of course no one knew who she was gonna be at the time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 01:31 AM (dJgiD)

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I could tell! She knew what she was doing. Great story!

One of the prettiest girls in our HS of very pretty girls was the lead majorette. She had the perfect figure. Her 20" waist was the envy of all.

Our HS was a total of 200 kids or 50/class. A very good public school til 1970 and the federal gubment decided to change our districts. We already had black high achievers and I wanted to stay 60% white and 40% black. I couldn't without breaking the law. That stunk and I haven't trusted the feds since.

Gotta get to bed and hopefully sleep well again for a record week in the last 8 or so of horror insomnia.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 01:45 AM (hzuYO)

301 Roast chicken tomorrow night, to help warm the house. Yummy.

It's simple enough and no need to do anything fancy like spatchcock-- meh, just give it a good rub under the skin, butter the outside, roast. Easy peasy. Never turns out dry for me.

Baked taters, too.

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:46 AM (rdVOm)

302 298 A real conversation starter, that's me.

Back to lurking. Carry on.
Posted by: Late-Night Lurker at November 09, 2026 01:43 AM (u0Crq)

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It's late. No worries. Half the time I'm talking to myself even when I show up early. Welcome.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 01:48 AM (hzuYO)

303 Easy demonstration of the moon rotating. Have the skeptic hold a rope with you on the other end. You are the earth. They are the moon.

Have them do a lap around you in a circle, while you both keep face to face the entire time. You spin around one revolution, and they will realize they did too, because the rope will be twisted around their body one revolution.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at November 09, 2026 01:48 AM (mkPTt)

304 My daughter keeps reminding of this without saying it. She gave me three grandkids who treat me like a king. We have deep roots here in CA and I will make the best it. Screw these idiot politicians.
Posted by: wth at November 09, 2026 01:13 AM (oq9dX)

Well, when they die, it should be possible to screw them into the ground. I'm not sure what size screwdriver to use - or would a wrench work better?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 09, 2026 01:51 AM (qx7Zg)

305 >>I'm not sure what size screwdriver to use - or would a wrench work better?

Mount them onto a gas-powered auger.

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:54 AM (rdVOm)

306 302 298 A real conversation starter, that's me.

Back to lurking. Carry on.
Posted by: Late-Night Lurker at November 09, 2026 01:43 AM (u0Crq)

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It's late. No worries. Half the time I'm talking to myself even when I show up early. Welcome.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 09, 2026 01:48 AM (hzuYO)

I talk to myself even when I'm not online...worst part is when I lose the arguments.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 01:54 AM (l3cgK)

307 If anyone catches me talking to myself, I just tell them I thought the cat was nearby...

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:56 AM (rdVOm)

308 Doctor: Are you involved in any dangerous sports?

Patient: Well, sometimes I disagree with liberals.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 09, 2026 01:56 AM (qx7Zg)

309 Look who's coming for all of your guns:

https://tinyurl.com/4zwftnar

And so it begins.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 01:57 AM (Y+4g7)

310 The last photo: Sorry, but that's Nebraska or Kansas. Iowa, although not exactly mountainous, is a bit hilly.

Posted by: Tommy Shanks at November 09, 2026 01:58 AM (jRd7v)

311 If anyone catches me talking to myself, I just tell them I thought the cat was nearby...
Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 01:56 AM (rdVOm)

Have fun with it. Tell them that they arrived just in time - they just lost their argument to you, and admitted that they were completely wrong.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 09, 2026 01:59 AM (qx7Zg)

312 Please read DataRepublican's continuing assessment of the elections and what's coming:

https://tinyurl.com/4jte2s9z

“A republic, if you can keep it.” - Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 02:02 AM (Y+4g7)

313 309 Look who's coming for all of your guns:

https://tinyurl.com/4zwftnar

And so it begins.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 01:57 AM (Y+4g7)

They ALWAYS say registration is not about confiscation...until it becomes about confiscation. Like Kalifornia with the so-called assault weapons restrictions...and magazine restrictions...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 02:05 AM (l3cgK)

314 The White House X account gets a well-deserved Community Note rebuke:

https://tinyurl.com/y6ra6msh

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 02:12 AM (Y+4g7)

315 Round Midnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5JBC8LOu1Q

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 02:14 AM (hPgrk)

316 "Magellan's crew when they returned."

I'm impressed with the accuracy in this specific articulation of past matters.

Posted by: meh at November 09, 2026 02:17 AM (EkJwg)

317 Sweet dreams Horde.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 09, 2026 02:23 AM (ibDUx)

318 Night, Debby. Stay warm!

Posted by: JQ at November 09, 2026 02:23 AM (rdVOm)

319 Earth has a diameter of about 8000 miles.

So, a circumference of about 24,000 miles.

Rotation of 24 hr period, means the equator is moving at about 1000 miles per hour.

Most any supersonic jet would be faster than that, for racing the sun.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at November 09, 2026 02:24 AM (mkPTt)

320 316 "Magellan's crew when they returned."

I'm impressed with the accuracy in this specific articulation of past matters.

Posted by: meh at November 09, 2026 02:17 AM (EkJwg)

Well, yeah, as Magellan himself did not survive the Philippines...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 02:24 AM (l3cgK)

321 Didn't know Ann Margret was still alive...85 years old...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 02:33 AM (l3cgK)

322
The Erf's rotational speed at the equator is about 1035 mph. The Concorde's cruising speed was Mach 2.02-2.04, 1350 - 1470 mph. Even at the equator, it could easily beat it.

At high latitudes, it was much faster. Take off at sunset from Europe. Take the London to NYC route, which had a rough average latitude of 50N. The rotational speed there is just 660 mph. The Concorde was doubling that.

Take off from London at sunset, and the Sun would rise in the west, solar time running backwards.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 02:34 AM (w6EFb)

323
Usually, at typical jetliner altitudes, you run into headwind going west (and tailwind going east), so your effective ground speed is less.

However, the Concorde flew high enough this didn't effect it much, maybe no more than a 50mph headwind up there.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 02:40 AM (w6EFb)

324
Flerfers, grown damned adults, actually argue that the earth can't be rotating, because otherwise you could just hover in a helicopter and have the earth just rotate under you. So, want to go west. Just jump up in a helicopter, and have your destination rotate.

They actually argue this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 02:42 AM (w6EFb)

325 324
Flerfers, grown damned adults, actually argue that the earth can't be rotating, because otherwise you could just hover in a helicopter and have the earth just rotate under you. So, want to go west. Just jump up in a helicopter, and have your destination rotate.

They actually argue this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 02:42 AM (w6EFb)

As if momentum didn't exist...
I'd love their explanation of the Coriolis effect...maybe planar earf rotates around a midpoint inside the plane?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 02:45 AM (l3cgK)

326 rotate around an axis inside planar earf...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 02:47 AM (l3cgK)

327 Been too long since I've done the math...still don't think that'll work. LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 02:50 AM (l3cgK)

328
Coriolis produces much hilarity. The really dumb ones just deny it exists, while the others make arguments that it's "something else". As an example, one argued that the Coriolis corrections for long range shooting where due to the spin of the projectile, not the earth. Of course, the big glaring problem with that is the latitude dependence of that correction, and how it changes sign in the Southern hemisphere and all that.

And much hilarity with Foucault pendulums. They argue that's a lie, and it's a trick or something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 02:55 AM (w6EFb)

329 Mississippi burning republicans! The ku klux klan must be nolonger in charge of counting votes!

Posted by: raimondo at November 09, 2026 03:02 AM (SzZL9)

330 The SPLC pays for the existence of the KKK...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 03:04 AM (l3cgK)

331 There's something beautiful about the Foucault pendulum. The traditional analysis derives the precession rate via the Coriolis force acting on it.

However, with differential geometry, you can see that precession as the effect of Riemannian parallel transport of the normal vector of the swing plane. They are the same thing, just two different ways of looking at it.

And that shows the consistency of the math and the physics. The Coriolis approach sees that in terms of the fictitious forces of a non-inertial frame. The parallel transport sees it as just that, parallel transport of a local vector on a curved surface.

And, they must agree. The rotating frame transformations have to be consistent with the differential geometry picture.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 09, 2026 03:10 AM (w6EFb)

332 Rats, a 1/2 hour to go

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 03:12 AM (Ia/+0)

333 I will, as a cow demon or snake spirit, be marched to a mass grave, stood over it, charged with the following crimes:
- opposing Statism/Socialism
- voting against Statism/Socialism
- refusing to take an oath of loyalty to the Party with the sole, exclusive right to rule the United States as it and it alone sees fit
- treason
- crimes against the People
-crimes against the State

Before they blow my brains out for these things at said mass grave, I hope to see raimondo there, getting ready to have its brains blown out. Just so I can have the satisfaction of saying “I told you so”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 03:13 AM (XTrBf)

334 Ankle boots = shoes

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 03:13 AM (XTrBf)

335 Before they blow my brains out for these things at said mass grave, I hope to see raimondo there, getting ready to have its brains blown out. Just so I can have the satisfaction of saying “I told you so”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 03:13 AM (XTrBf)

Eh, he'll still think it's a mistake.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 03:16 AM (l3cgK)

336 Long commute today and possibly a couple weeks soon enough

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2026 03:30 AM (Ia/+0)

337 330 The SPLC pays for the existence of the KKK...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 03:04 AM (l3cgK)

Democrats funding Democrats to fund Democrats to be sociopaths.

War never changes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 03:47 AM (aKiSo)

338 I talk to myself even when I'm not online...worst part is when I lose the arguments.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 01:54 AM (l3cgK)

Losing an argument with yourself is just another name for doing philosophy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 09, 2026 03:51 AM (aKiSo)

339 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at November 09, 2026 04:22 AM (odBC9)

340 Sen. DAVE MCCORMICK (R-PA) just JOINED the effort to block John Thune's reelection ... now Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, Rick Scott, John Kennedy and McCormick are joined to toss Thune.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 09, 2026 04:23 AM (hPgrk)

341 Eh, he'll still think it's a mistake.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 03:16 AM (l3cgK)

The protagonist of Darkness at Noon was the most committed Communist ever at the end of the book.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 09, 2026 04:51 AM (XTrBf)

Gun Thread: Second November Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Second November Edition? Just look at the calendar!

Breaking: Looks like we are striking Iran tonight. Feel free to discuss in the comments, just please don't go bananas and get into a fracas with your fellow commenters. Thanks.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Optics fundamentals. FFP vs SFP.

Fall is in the air, and soon the misery of winter will be upon us. Are you an indoor shooter, an outdoor shooter, or both?

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.223 vs 5.56

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More Shiny Guns

Honestly, not a fan. How about you?

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Buying Used Guns

I like old guns which means I have purchased a lot of used guns. Stick with established sellers and you are unlikely to have a problem.

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Comando!

We surrender! We surrender!

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Titan II

It's a big 'un!

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Our Pal Steam

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Double Copter!

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Giant From The Unknown!

Title checks out.

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Cigar of the Week

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This week our pal rhomboid scores again with this excellent review of the Esteban Carreras Chupacabra Hellcat.

Any relatively new cigar smoker and certainly any newbies is understandably amazed at the enormous numbers of brands and selections available today. Industry veterans can confirm that it's a golden age in this respect. Well one of the many brands I've never tried - wasn't even on my radar - is Esteban Carreras. My favorite local shop had an event with the Carreras rep, so I snapped up a few of their wares.

Among the brand's main lines is the Chupacabra, which is available in a habano, natural, and MSA (Mexican San Andres) version, the last one being the kind I tried. Nice looking dark brown, light in the hand, neatly box-pressed, in this case the toro (6.5 X 54). Mine had a normal finished cap, not the pigtail mentioned in online descriptions, but the foot was indeed a shaggy closed foot as those sources mention. The burn was fairly well behaved, requiring occasional touch-ups. The smoke production was impressive, and the smoke was rich and thick. Draw was perfect. This stick reminded me of a few of my favorite broadleaf or MSA cigars. A distinct sweetness, and notes of chocolate, coffee, earth. Smooth throughout, and with the luxuriant smoke made for an indulgent relaxing experience. Very enjoyable, a good first impression for a new-to-me brand. The Chupacabra Hellcat is available online for $7.25 and up.

Excellent as always, rhomboid! Thank you!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 07:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:00 PM (9YDB8)

3 Bang

Posted by: Kratwurst at November 08, 2026 07:01 PM (9gKa/)

4 Thank you Weasel.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 08, 2026 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

5 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 07:04 PM (iXzAN)

6 Anyone ever have a sear break on a striker fired pistol? Snapped in half with maybe 10,000 rounds through it.

Posted by: Kratwurst at November 08, 2026 07:05 PM (9gKa/)

7 Never underestimate a Chihuahua.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 07:05 PM (0sNs1)

8
You gun nuts held Her Majesty prisoner today. She was parked at a hookup for the dog show at the Humble arena near the Civic Center, where a gun show was being held. Two trucks parked next to her, boxing her in. They delayed her departure for several hours.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 07:07 PM (eRlcH)

9
>>Looks like we are striking Iran tonight.

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How hard? If it's going to be like our previous strikes, I'll wait for the last-minute suspension followed by an announcement of a possible deal.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 07:07 PM (XJ22o)

10 I'm almost entirely an indoor shooter. The last time I shot outdoors was last year's TX MoMe.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 07:07 PM (iXzAN)

11 Looks like we are striking Iran tonight.

If Trump finally hits IRGC/Iranian elite neighborhoods I'll wonder why he didn't do it months ago...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 07:09 PM (sKqQm)

12 Kratwurst, no, but I did have the recoil stop pin (or whatever it's called) on my XD9 break after a zillion rounds. Easy replacement, Springfield sent me the tiny roll pin gratis.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:09 PM (U/Byj)

13 Ĥave to do it before the Socialists take over andxstat shoveling money their way again

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 07:10 PM (Ia/+0)

14
Breaking: Looks like we are striking Iran tonight.

Send in the chihuahuas!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 07:10 PM (Cqx++)

15 One of the things we wanted to come out with was a channel on the Iranian side, which we did. They were like, ‘OK, fine, we’ll send somebody from the IRGC to go hang out in Doha with somebody from CENTCOM,’ and that’s how we’re going to settle a lot of these disputes.

Posted by: Jaydee at November 08, 2026 07:11 PM (4QjQj)

16 One has to work up to a fracas.

You don't just go barging in.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 07:12 PM (lbtIB)

17 Rhomboid,
Great review.
My Xmas list grows. I hope Santa is paying attention.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 07:13 PM (2WIwB)

18 Qeshm strikes apparently confirmed, but pretty sure we had some unacknowledged ones recently. CENTCOM set a debatable standard of anodyne releases after strikes in the first two phases of this. But pretty sure they just kept mum on recent ones, perhaps yet another bit of hand-holding for the public that doesn't deserve their service.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:14 PM (U/Byj)

19 One has to work up to a fracas.

You don't just go barging in.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 07:12 PM


Indeed. Never go straight to triple-dog dare.

Posted by: Ralphie at November 08, 2026 07:14 PM (0sNs1)

20 Indoor/Outdoor?

Yes.

Amirite, Red?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:14 PM (V7nuf)

21 Springfield sent me the tiny roll pin gratis.
Posted by: rhomboid

I just ordered a new one. Sig P365xl. I didn’t think these get much punishment in normal operation.

Posted by: Kratwurst at November 08, 2026 07:15 PM (9gKa/)

22 Range report


Went with son #1 MAE and LazyMessenger to our usual haunt. I got hugs.

Focused on trigger pull, fast (for me) and rhythmic. 3 shots per 2 seconds, so not fast but getting there.

Went to breakfast with son. Got home and talked to Marine.

My heart had a very happy day.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 07:15 PM (yEz+x)

23 "Breaking: Looks like we are striking Iran tonight."

Last I saw in the Post was PDT said it was unlikely as long as negotiations were ongoing. Did negotiations break down again?

Posted by: Tuna at November 08, 2026 07:15 PM (lJ0H4)

24 Diogenes this stick really was nice. Simple. My palate is famously pedestrian, and "complexity" means nothing to me, though it is a highly desired trait for most aficionados. This cigar was more what I'm always seeking - a pleasant smooth stick with great construction and smoke.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:15 PM (U/Byj)

25 Well, I'll ask that question ... "How hard do you think the communists are going to go after firearms in the next Congress Weasle?"

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at November 08, 2026 07:17 PM (Q/FnY)

26 My heart had a very happy day.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 07:15 PM


{{{nurse}}}

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:17 PM (V7nuf)

27 Diogenes this stick really was nice. Simple. My palate is famously pedestrian, and "complexity" means nothing to me, though it is a highly desired trait for most aficionados. This cigar was more what I'm always seeking - a pleasant smooth stick with great construction and smoke.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:15 PM


Pro tip: Buy more.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 07:17 PM (0sNs1)

28 Re: the noise dialogue discussion that I mostly missed from the other day and cigars

From 'Cast a Deadly Spell'

'That's great but I got better things to do than listen to you sound off and suck on a smouldering chair leg.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 07:19 PM (lbtIB)

29 Indoor/Outdoor?

Yes.

Amirite, Red?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:14 PM (V7nuf)

Yes. However, very much weighted on outdoor. The wx up here has been extremely cooperative for November. I’ve recently shot .308, 6.5, .45 and .22.
And reloaded a metric sh*t-ton when I should have been outdoors enjoying the wx.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 07:19 PM (zYph5)

30 Noise=noir

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 07:19 PM (lbtIB)

31 Diogenes this stick really was nice. Simple. My palate is famously pedestrian, and "complexity" means nothing to me, though it is a highly desired trait for most aficionados. This cigar was more what I'm always seeking - a pleasant smooth stick with great construction and smoke.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:15 PM
***

I look forward to trying one.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 07:20 PM (2WIwB)

32 Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 07:19 PM

It has been remarkably clement for November up here. Might even get some shooting in over Thanksgiving week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:21 PM (V7nuf)

33 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 07:22 PM (NlEaG)

34 Rhomboid,
I just discovered a new cigar store on the local reservation. Nice lounge too.
More interesting reviews to come.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 07:23 PM (2WIwB)

35 Things keep getting in the way of getting to the range with the DMV MGC. This will go down on our permanent record, I am sure.

I have at least purchased ammo.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 07:24 PM (NlEaG)

36 Next Congress should not have veto-override numbers, would think further 2A abuse will be performative DOA stuff.

And of course there's still SCOTUS to slap down egregious infringements.

I crack myself up! Try the veal.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:24 PM (U/Byj)

37 Diogenes does the res have tax advantages? Dunno your state excise tax (some are outrageous), but that would be nice too.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:25 PM (U/Byj)

38 Pro-tip: if you buy a .357 you have just added 2 calibers to your stack. The creep is real.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 07:25 PM (NlEaG)

39 Had another good (well, for me) group range time (some may recall our occasional group outings...)
This was 9MM day - and what a mix! Kuna, FPC, Echelon, two different Legions, Canick Rival, Kimber Micro 9 Rapide, and two different Walthers.

Usual setup, everyone shot their primaries with focus on grip, stance, etc., then switch off. It's fascinating how different such "similar" firearms can feel.

Best new thing for me was the FPC w/Romeo MSR. The FPC was kinda neat, but the Romeo was impressive.

Of course, as we finished up, I took the time to demonstrate the superiority of JMB (PBUH) 1911 in .45...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 07:26 PM (pfXMo)

40 Diogenes does the res have tax advantages? Dunno your state excise tax (some are outrageous), but that would be nice too.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026

It's a wash.
Fewer taxes (there are several) but they charge a dash more. But just to have some place to go and enjoy a cigar is worth the difference.
The smoke nazis here are true scum.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 07:29 PM (2WIwB)

41 I aired out the Glock 21 last week. I try to always start with a cold draw and several shots at 7-15 yards with no prep. 2 hand, 1 hand, weak hand.
Just simulating real need and use.
After, I drill on fundamentals. And inhale the smell of freedom.
.45 ACP is an awesome cartridge.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 07:30 PM (zYph5)

42 Hi weasel, hope you’re doing well. I’m still in mourning over the untimely demise of my state.
I don’t have a range report but went to the local gun club Saturday to look at a SW Bodyguard and SW EZ Shield 380. It was pretty crowded and I asked the guy if they’ve been busier than usual. He said yes, beginning on Wed and expects it to keep ramping up. We exchanged other unpleasantries about the electorate which I won’t repeat.

Posted by: TxAnn at November 08, 2026 07:30 PM (itAg7)

43 Range report from a100% outdoors shooter. If it ain't raining you ain't training.
My first love is the 12 gauge but time got away on me and it has been so many months with just the rifle. It took me 4 missed rabbits before getting back into proper form.
Did i mention that i like shotguns three most? So much more simple. So much more fun.
Howdy, weasel. Thanks for the thread every week. It's my aoshq highlight for sure.

Posted by: Nato at November 08, 2026 07:31 PM (/gRsd)

44 And inhale the smell of freedom.
.45 ACP is an awesome cartridge.
Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 07:30 PM


Must be nice to live in a free-ish state. I need to get up there once the real estate market doesn't suck.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:33 PM (V7nuf)

45 TxAnn I was about to mention that as we go through the next 2 years, there might be another gun/ammo panic (or several), to some degree. Fall of '28 I'd expect one, almost certainly.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:34 PM (U/Byj)

46 there might be another gun/ammo panic"

Thus the constant admonition - buy more ammo.

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 07:35 PM (pfXMo)

47 In their absence this week, I hope you won't mind, given the possible consequences of the probable electoral shenanigans this week, if I repeat his mantras for our edification and immediate implementation:

1. Exercise and hone your foundational abilities.
2. Procure additional cartridges, stat.
3. Eschew suboptimal objects and actions, particularly if they oscillate randomly.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 07:36 PM (0sNs1)

48 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at November 08, 2026 07:36 PM (sAmhv)

49 If you do as weasel says - buy ammo at all times - then you aren't worried about ammo panics.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 07:37 PM (NlEaG)

50 if I repeat his mantras for our edification and immediate implementation:..."

Especially since the solid waste seems to be on the verge of impacting the rotating vanes.

Or something.

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 07:38 PM (pfXMo)

51 If you do as weasel says - buy ammo at all times - then you aren't worried about ammo panics.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 07:37 PM


This guy gets it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:38 PM (V7nuf)

52 If you do as weasel says - buy ammo at all times - then you aren't worried about ammo panics.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 07:37 PM (NlEaG)

I'd do the same thing when it comes to magazines, too. Especially standard AR-15 magazines or your long guns of choice.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 07:40 PM (iXzAN)

53 I did my part to participate in the upcoming ammo panic by ordering a bunch of large rifle and large pistol primers.

SGammo.com has been sending me daily emails claiming the demand for ammunition has skyrocketed. I see no reason to doubt them.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 07:40 PM (FZzOq)

54 The left intends to go all the way with this cake, the steal was just the first layer. The firearm registration and confiscation will not even be the top layer, much less the icing on their demonic cake. The icing will be the boxcars.

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 07:41 PM (LHPAg)

55 45 TxAnn I was about to mention that as we go through the next 2 years, there might be another gun/ammo panic (or several), to some degree. Fall of '28 I'd expect one, almost certainly.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:34 PM (U/Byj)

Was talking to my next door neighbor this afternoon about how they were unusually silent on anything gun related in all of their ads. But on Dday +1, one of the commies mentioned a universal gun registration. I will heeding Weasel’s sage advice to load up.

Posted by: TxAnn at November 08, 2026 07:42 PM (itAg7)

56 I'm really in a position where unloading some ammo would be helpful (storage space, no chance I'm ever going to use that much), but I might wait a bit and see if we start to get Panic Premiums showing up with ammo. Mostly 54R in spam cans. I'll shoot a bunch more but not close to the pile I have. I describe my stocks as probably equal to those of a Red Army rifle platoon on the northern shoulder of the Kursk salient in 1943.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:42 PM (U/Byj)

57 Beautiful sunny autumn weather here this weekend. Saturday I took kids #1 & #4 (17yo & 11yo) to the rock bit for shooting. I forgot the shotgun shells, but we still shot the AR-15, 10/22, 30-06, and Glock 19. The 30-06 you all helped me zero shot great. I was knocking down cans and boxes on my first try at least 150 yards away. My 11yo had only shot once before. I was proud of how well she followed safety rules. For four hours she hardly set the Ruger down. Since we had orange clay pigeons, I let her strew those about, and she blasted them to bits.

Posted by: frammish at November 08, 2026 07:42 PM (rcENI)

58 Eschew suboptimal objects and actions, particularly if they oscillate randomly.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 07:36 PM (0sNs1)

Unplanned lateral excursions, too.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 07:43 PM (HdjQ+)

59 Posted by: frammish at November 08, 2026 07:42 PM

Outstanding!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 07:44 PM (V7nuf)

60 Pretty good on primers, should check. That's always the worst component during panics. Thus I have laid in substantial quantities over the years.

Not sure there will be full-blown panics next 2 years, but in run-up to next presidential, some, and if the wrong side prevails that November - yowzah.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:44 PM (U/Byj)

61 I expect that mail order cigar and pipe tobacco sales will soon be prohibited, too. For the children! After all, if it isn't shut down we will continue to see gangs of teenagers puffing on $20 Cohibas and $200 meerscham pipes on every street corner!

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 07:46 PM (FZzOq)

62 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread folks. Gun stuff to report! I got my buddy's ancient Browning Auto 5 to cycle properly. Cleaned old gunk out of the action, and off the exterior of the magazine tube. Lubed it with Seafoam Deep Creep, which claims on its label to be suitable for firearms. Put it all back together, and tried to fire 3 rounds of Winchester Xpert 1 1/8 oz. target loads. Bang! Soft recoil, failure to eject. Twice in succession. Not optimal. Consulted Browning manual on Internet. Hmmm... Friction rings not assembled in sequence that Browning recommends for light loads. Shuffle rings around, reassemble. Load three rounds. Bang, bang, bang. Just like that. The three hulls fell within a foot of each other. My caragana hedge took a beating. The recoil was more like one would expect from a 12 gauge.

Buddy has his humpback back. It's an oldie, too, pre-1951.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 07:46 PM (yky4J)

63 Anybody here tried to renew Texas CC since OCT 2026?

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 07:47 PM (LHPAg)

64 Yep, rhomboid. Walmart is carrying some reloading components now. Just grabbed a 1k box of Winchester Large Rifle primers.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 07:47 PM (HdjQ+)

65 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: TRex - ammo hoarder dino at November 08, 2026 07:47 PM (XfIK1)

66 The left intends to go all the way with this cake, the steal was just the first layer. The firearm registration and confiscation will not even be the top layer, much less the icing on their demonic cake. The icing will be the boxcars.
Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 07:41 PM


Iron ... words ... Eromero ... for all Morons to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 07:48 PM (0sNs1)

67 Wow Weasel. What great content tonight!

Range day for function check on my Glock 19. Trigger gritty enough to mess with finding the break. Better but still not right. Must be hidden grime somewhere.

Posted by: YellowBird at November 08, 2026 07:48 PM (MEbkQ)

68

With the demons wanting to have a gun registrey, how will they know who has guns.

We have guns we bought decades ago. Do the evil people have access to records from years ago?

Posted by: four seasons at November 08, 2026 07:51 PM (/QHx4)

69 Idaho Spud, wish you were joking (and hope to gawd nothing like this happens). But -

A few years back, when the FDA (spit) was trying to gut the premium cigar industry, they had commissioned a study on precisely the subject of minors and cigars. Surprise! Minors are no part of the premium cigar market, and the industry doesn't acknowledge their existence. Of course.

Nonetheless they persisted with their idiotic effort. In a blessing that passeth understanding, an Obama-appointed judge who of course is pretty useless overall ruled in the industry's favor. Note: even though *their own study* completely vitiated their purported reason for regulation, they didn't change their approach at all.

Similar to CDC publishing (having funded) the Nth meta-study showing no efficacy for masks in preventing transmission of airborne viruses - the same month (May '20) they changed their official guidance from no masks to oh hell yeah masks. In many ways a clownshow country any more.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:52 PM (U/Byj)

70 We have guns we bought decades ago. Do the evil people have access to records from years ago?

Posted by: four seasons at November 08, 2026 07:51 PM
Did you fill out a form?

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 07:52 PM (LHPAg)

71 60 Not sure there will be full-blown panics next 2 years, but in run-up to next presidential, some, and if the wrong side prevails that November - yowzah.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:44 PM (U/Byj)

I can’t even go there yet mentally. It’s times like these I remember what 9th Circuit Judge Alex Kozinski wrote in a dissenting opinion in 2003:

“The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.”

Posted by: TxAnn at November 08, 2026 07:53 PM (itAg7)

72 YellowBird, have you swapped out for a 3.5 lb. trigger bar? Extremely easy and cures a lot.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 07:54 PM (zYph5)

73
Husband wants to know if background checks will play into the records of gun purchases.

Who knows.

Posted by: four seasons at November 08, 2026 07:55 PM (/QHx4)

74 Gun registries are so useful. Canada dumped their rifle registry after a few decades when a non-insane government was in power and asked the RCMP - how many cases has the registry helped solve or prosecute?

I believe the answer was Zero (AOP can correct me).

After 30+ years of the idiocy.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:56 PM (U/Byj)

75 how will they know who has guns."

There's going to be a rash of unfortunate canoe and kayak accidents...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 07:57 PM (pfXMo)

76 I'm pretty well stocked but bought 1500 rnds the day after. Felt a little better after that. I don't know know why. Unless I get a machine gun I'll never use it all up.

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 07:57 PM (MWfyi)

77 when the FDA (spit) was trying to gut the premium cigar industry,"

No one ever understood what those idiots wanted to accomplish...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 07:59 PM (pfXMo)

78 Unless I get a machine gun I'll never use it all up.
Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 07:57 PM


Stoner 63s are fun.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 07:59 PM (0sNs1)

79 With the likely upcoming panics/shortages/etc after the elections I'll add this to weasel's admonition to buy ammo. LEARN TO HAND LOAD. And emphasize getting primers. Primers are the one component with no work around. Regular powder charges, not atomic level, let brass get used several times if not a lot more. Cast bullets can be made that will do for many if not most shooting needs. An 8 pound cask of powder should cover your needs for years and maybe three powders will cover most shooting needs. The idea is to be able to shoot for fun and hunting. (Specialized purposes, like long range competition, is another matter.) The tools for handloading don't have to be expensive and should last a lifetime. This applies to metallic cartridges and shotgun shells.

I'll heroically refrain from bringing traditional muzzleloading into the discussion.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 08:00 PM (yTvNw)

80 With the demons wanting to have a gun registrey, how will they know who has guns.

We have guns we bought decades ago. Do the evil people have access to records from years ago?

Posted by: four seasons at November 08, 2026 07:51 PM (/QHx4)

Well, if our experience in Canada is any guide, they don't. When the Liberal filth brought in their long gun registry years ago, the compliance rate was very tiny; basically only new purchases got registered. And prosecutions for non-registered firearms basically only occurred when the party involved came to the notice of cops for some other reason, often of their own making.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:01 PM (yky4J)

81 I believe the answer was Zero (AOP can correct me).

After 30+ years of the idiocy.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:56 PM (U/Byj)

About right. And I do not trust the political hacks in RCMP management to have properly destroyed the registry records, either. Some slime has kept a copy squirreled away. Irony is, most of those compliant ones would have been on the Left.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:04 PM (yky4J)

82 "Stoner 63s are fun.
Posted by: Duncanthrax"

I would like a BAR for thinning trees.

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:05 PM (MWfyi)

83 We have guns we bought decades ago. Do the evil people have access to records from years ago?

They'll get a magistrate judge to sign a search warrant to enter your house and inventory every firearm. Nah, I'm kidding, no judge would ever do something like that.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 08, 2026 08:05 PM (vTZFs)

84 Buddy has his humpback back. It's an oldie, too, pre-1951.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 07:46 PM


Got a couple of those in 16 and 20. Lovely guns.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 08:06 PM (V7nuf)

85 Ordered a S&W Model 27 Classic should come in this week. Been enjoying shooting the Mdoel 52 a lot. Just at an indoor range, but it's really fun shooting.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 08, 2026 08:09 PM (P4bJX)

86 *types*
*deletes*

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 08:09 PM (wuYg+)

87 I would like a BAR for thinning trees.
Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:05 PM (MWfyi)

Why not go belt-fed? You might even be able to get an M1919A4 for less than that of a BAR.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:10 PM (iXzAN)

88 Sniffy my former SEAL buddy has a Mod 27 (4 inch barrel) he got from his dad. Beautiful piece.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:11 PM (U/Byj)

89 Got a couple of those in 16 and 20. Lovely guns.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 08:06 PM (V7nuf)

I think that friction ring system could be amenable to some fine tuning. Possibly different sets of bronze and steel rings with different bevel angles, and recoil springs in different strengths.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:11 PM (yky4J)

90 If the left treats us like this, knowing we are armed, how much more badly will they treat us once we are disarmed?

Buy ammo!


Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 08:14 PM (2WIwB)

91 I need to stock up on .38spl and a lesser amount of .357mag for my lever gun.

Also just ordered a Gigliotti trigger for the B&T TP9 and finally get that thing sorted. Super cool gun with an absolute garbage trigger due to it being an automatic-first platform.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 08:14 PM (oqH4h)

92 M1919 is my grail (machine) gun. Actually know a guy who's got a semi-auto version.

Sub-machine gun: PPsh-41 (or -40, for the forged metal and nicer stock).

LightMG: DP-27 (something about the pan magazine).

Large-caliber toy: 16-inch/50cal Mark 7. Kinda spendy to feed, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:14 PM (U/Byj)

93 Why not go belt-fed? You might even be able to get an M1919A4 for less than that of a BAR.
Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:10 PM (iXzAN)

A Lima Six or a Red Right Hand upper with an FRT/ARSE make for a very nice belt fed option in 5.56. Lima Six is working on a 7.62 NATO version as well.

Posted by: AZHiDesert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 08, 2026 08:15 PM (qsQlt)

94 "Why not go belt-fed? "

Shoot and scoot back into the swamp. 1 mag dump ought to scare em off.

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:15 PM (MWfyi)

95 I got the 4 inch too. Ihope the new ones are as good as the old ones.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 08, 2026 08:17 PM (P4bJX)

96 91 I need to stock up on .38spl and a lesser amount of .357mag for my lever gun....

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 08:14 PM (oqH4h)


Grok tells me go with 158 grain v 130 if you are running a suppressor.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 08:17 PM (NlEaG)

97 How serious am I about buying ammo? I just let myself be outbid on Gunbroker for a sporting revolver (I placed my bid two weeks ago) so I can spend the money on ammo instead.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 08:18 PM (FZzOq)

98 B&T TP9 and finally get that thing sorted. Super cool gun"

That seems to be the consensus on these PDWs...

Somehow, not for me, tho...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:18 PM (pfXMo)

99 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special hope-that-hearing-has-returned-on-the-starboard-side greeting to our host Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 08:18 PM (xVpNO)

100 100!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 08:18 PM (xVpNO)

101 Uh oh, pre-markets open down. There may be more blood in the street when the markets open.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (4NO2D)

102 (as they say in comedy, timing is everything...)

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (xVpNO)

103 Grok tells me go with 158 grain v 130 if you are running a suppressor.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 08:17 PM (NlEaG)
---
Definitely, and yes it's got a Silencerco Spectre 9 can on the business end.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (oqH4h)

104 1 mag dump ought to scare em off."

PSA has a deal on 60 round mags...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (pfXMo)

105 Iran responds by hitting Iraq lol gas fields

Posted by: Paul at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (3Ckv0)

106 toby you think the zipper-control shenanigans of the CEO will hit NVDA tomorrow, providing an entry point? I mean if it drops 80% it's P/E will only be 178 (I keed, I keed).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:20 PM (U/Byj)

107 That sounds like a really good day, Nurse!

Posted by: Advo at November 08, 2026 08:20 PM (jO4mz)

108 76 I'm pretty well stocked but bought 1500 rnds the day after. Felt a little better after that. I don't know know why. Unless I get a machine gun I'll never use it all up.
Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 07:57 PM (MWfyi)


Horde I am disappoint.

Noone has recommended how to resolve this firearm-ammo mismatch....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 08:21 PM (NlEaG)

109 Uh oh, pre-markets open down. There may be more blood in the street when the markets open.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (4NO2D)

Considering that part of the D's platform was to stop data centers, and that the tech sector has been the primary driver of stocks going up for the last couple of years, I'd expect the markets to continue their swan dive into next year.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:22 PM (iXzAN)

110 >>> 68

With the demons wanting to have a gun registrey, how will they know who has guns.

We have guns we bought decades ago. Do the evil people have access to records from years ago?

Posted by: four seasons at November 08, 2026 07:51 PM (/QHx4)

The filth have access to information about ammo purchases.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 08, 2026 08:22 PM (PgV1+)

111 Definitely, and yes it's got a Silencerco Spectre 9 can on the business end.
Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (oqH4h)


Have a YHM r9 that I have yet to try out on the lever.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 08:22 PM (NlEaG)

112
Large-caliber toy: 16-inch/50cal Mark 7. Kinda spendy to feed, though.
Posted by: rhomboid


And you need a crew to fire it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 08:22 PM (Cqx++)

113 I think the realistic position to take is that the feds/batf/whomever have a pretty good idea of law-abiding persons’ guns. ATF has millions of records that they should not have. And with AI, searching is hardly a problem.
Assume that every 4473 you filled out is known. Assume that the Feds closely monitor sites like this.
The point is, you better make up your mind now what you are willing to do about it.
I suspect that the question is no longer theoretical.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 08:23 PM (HdjQ+)

114 Well Ed L, I guess that could be portrayed as addressing "affordability".

Drop the NASDAQ 30%, its listed stocks will definitely be more affordable.

Voila!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:23 PM (U/Byj)

115 Considering that part of the D's platform was to stop data centers, and that the tech sector has been the primary driver of stocks"

And the tech bros are all...what happened?

I laugh

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:23 PM (pfXMo)

116 Definitely, and yes it's got a Silencerco Spectre 9 can on the business end.
Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 08:19 PM (oqH4h)

That can works very well on an H&K SP5 that's fed 150 grain Federal Syntech subsonic ammo. Hollywood quiet.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:23 PM (iXzAN)

117 100 100!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 08:18 PM


I C what you've done.

Posted by: Gaius Kilroynius at November 08, 2026 08:25 PM (0sNs1)

118 People could have guns from great great pappy

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 08:25 PM (enNUy)

119 The original ghost gun

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 08:25 PM (enNUy)

120 toby you think the zipper-control shenanigans of the CEO will hit NVDA tomorrow, providing an entry point? I mean if it drops 80% it's P/E will only be 178 (I keed, I keed).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:20 PM


I went hard short on NVDA using the leveraged NVDQ Friday afternoon. I had about 2/3 of my trading money in it. Basis was about 11.40. It's at 12.40 now. Me +3.6% in the last 20 minutes and about half out.

I was worried all weekend but I kept thinking that there is nothing happening to make the markets happy, so I guessed right.

In answer to your question though, I would have figured 180 as a good entry point in the stocks lifecycle and then figured to top at about 240.

I am not sure any more. I think I am going to keep shorting into any rally since I am very much playing with house money now.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 08:26 PM (4NO2D)

121 A guy at my range a few years ago had a Sharps rifle he said his great grand-dad had used in the Civil War (WI unit). I imagine that one's not in the records.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:26 PM (U/Byj)

122 Bullets go right through a ghost.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 08:27 PM (Cqx++)

123 Noone has recommended how to resolve this firearm-ammo mismatch....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 08, 2026 08:21 PM


As has been noted here in the past, there are only two circumstances when one can have too much ammo.

1. You're drowning.
2. You're on fire.

Posted by: Gaius Kilroynius at November 08, 2026 08:27 PM (0sNs1)

124 I've picked up 5 cans on 4473 so far. And put some vert grips on some things too. Haven't changed anything over to stocks yet. Braces do okay and I spent a lot on braces. I did get some 3 printed plugs to reinforce them. If i have to go back I can just pull out the plugs.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 08, 2026 08:28 PM (P4bJX)

125 Thanks toby. Unlikely to nibble on any of the Mag 7/whatever they're called at this time, more a question of my plans resources and and timing.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:28 PM (U/Byj)

126 Considering that part of the D's platform was to stop data centers, and that the tech sector has been the primary driver of stocks"

And the tech bros are all...what happened?


Two factions in the D party.

The pols American oligarchs like Bezos control want data centers

The pols Chinese oligarchs control don't want American/European data centers - they want this to be a Chinese thing.

I think the Chinese ones are more associated with the DSA side and are in ascendance right now.

The question is how much money are the American oligarchs willing to lose before they fight their inparty rivals?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 08:29 PM (sKqQm)

127 Greatly doubt any anti-AI stuff of importance will be done on the national level. Veto pen. Plus the idiocy of it all vs. the $$ and competitive considerations. Prediction: toothless compromise bill requiring crap equivalent to an environmental impact statement. In any case, states and municipalities are bigger players on things like this.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:32 PM (U/Byj)

128 The Dems will lie and say they don't want data centers while taking money from people who do. They don't give a crap about people.

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:33 PM (MWfyi)

129 If NVDQ hits $13.00 I might get completely out. I'll be awake for a couple of more hours but after than, I'd rather take my winnings and sleep well, even if it means I wake up and go 'dammit'.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 08:33 PM (4NO2D)

130 Still agog at Ruger's announced discontinuation of a huge portion of their trademark line.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:33 PM (U/Byj)

131 Kara Swisher (a podcaster, and no relation to any of the Swishers of The Horde's beloved Swisher Sweets, AFAIK) asked Hillary Clinton “So Madam Secretary, has the pussy finally grabbed back?”

Clinton chuckled, “With all claws!”

“This is a total rebuke of Donald Trump and his cult and the many wrongheaded evil policies that he’s inflicted on us and the world, but it’s also a real tribute to Democratic candidates and the campaigns they ran and how strong they were on the main issues of affordability and corruption. We had to finally lift the poisonous cloud that Trump has put over our heads for the last ten long years, but we also have a new crop of very exciting public servants.”

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 08:35 PM (0sNs1)

132 The Titan II CEP sucked. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM (XTrBf)

133 I miss the Gun Thread.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM (yky4J)

134 Cow Demon that's why 5 megatons came in handy.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM (U/Byj)

135 Still agog at Ruger's announced discontinuation of a huge portion of their trademark line.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:33 PM (U/Byj)

Poison pill against a hostile Beretta takeover?

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM (iXzAN)

136 I miss the Gun Thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM (yky4J)
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Me too.

Posted by: Weasel at November 08, 2026 08:38 PM (WoNrM)

137 Headline from local news: "Voters demanded economic relief. Trump and democrats face tough choices on how to deliver." Walking back shit already for the dems. Trump doesn't have to do fuck all now. It's all you, dems.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 08:39 PM (enNUy)

138 Ed L, that's what whig speculated, as I recall. I haven't tracked that whole story, so don't know where things stand.

Would the poison pill consist of the hit to market share, earnings, or brand value? If they succeeded in buying Ruger, Beretta could just revive the models, no? It's not like the F-22 where some insane move will be made to destroy key production tools.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:39 PM (U/Byj)

139 I miss the Gun Thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM (yky4J)
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Me too.
Posted by: Weasel at November 08, 2026 08:38 PM


Sorry. I didn't mean to derail the thread.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 08:41 PM (4NO2D)

140 toby I am equally guilty here. For our penance, let us do 3 readings from Col. Hatcher's Notebook, and clean two revolvers.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:41 PM (U/Byj)

141 Greatly doubt any anti-AI stuff of importance will be done on the national level. Veto pen. Plus the idiocy of it all vs. the $$ and competitive considerations. Prediction: toothless compromise bill requiring crap equivalent to an environmental impact statement. In any case, states and municipalities are bigger players on things like this.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:32 PM (U/Byj)

Rhomboid, up until now, I’d have agreed with you. But we are now getting into “normalcy bias” times. I don’t think we can assume that the Left will care about constitutional niceties. They are not about to give up the rings of power.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 08:42 PM (HdjQ+)

142 Still agog"

Magog?

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:43 PM (pfXMo)

143
California has its own parallel background check in addition to the Federal one. In 2014 the state of CA
started requiring registration of long guns. You can't buy ammunition in the state unless you have a gun of that caliber registered to you. It's outrageous, and it's obvious that it's not intended to solve or reduce crime.

And, any background check information that was requured to be discarded once the check was finished -- I believe the information was kept to this day in an 'unofficial' database. They won't let it go. Who's going to stop them?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 08, 2026 08:43 PM (VWtfl)

144 It's not like the F-22 where some insane move will be made to destroy key production tools.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:39 PM (U/Byj)


I understand what they were thinking regarding espionage but I think I would just put all the tooling and blue prints in giant poured concrete blocks and kept them on some Air Force base.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 08:43 PM (4NO2D)

145 I've also heard the theory that the Great Discontinuance was a move by Ruger to force Beretta to fund machinery upgrades at the existing Ruger plants.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 08:43 PM (FZzOq)

146 Hey, it's all "precious metals", rite?

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:44 PM (pfXMo)

147 Would the poison pill consist of the hit to market share, earnings, or brand value? If they succeeded in buying Ruger, Beretta could just revive the models, no? It's not like the F-22 where some insane move will be made to destroy key production tools.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:39 PM (U/Byj)

Because some sort of legal action would almost certainly follow any attempt at a hostile takeover attempt, anything not in production at the time court filings get made would likely go into limbo until after it's all over in court. Sure, Beretta would be able to revive models after (if they win, of course), but how much $$ would they have to commit to restart production? If the Ruger workforce decides to leave for better opportunities elsewhere while the court case plays out, replacing the human element might be even harder to replace than the hardware.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:45 PM (iXzAN)

148 Hey, it's all "precious metals", rite?
Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:44 PM (pfXMo)

"We deal in lead, friend." -The Magnificent Seven

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 08:45 PM (FZzOq)

149 Here's an off the wall question, apropos of nothing:

Could you make a pistol barrel out of Nikasil alloy, as was used in Chevy Vega (and some Porsche models) engine blocks? The cast alloy contains a mesh latticework of hard silicon crystals in a matrix of aluminum. I expect the wear rate might be quite high, but if the barrels could be made cheap enough to be "disposables", that might not matter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:46 PM (yky4J)

150 Thanks Ed L. Have not pondered the dynamics of hostile takeovers much. Sounds logical. So perhaps if Ruger fights them off we can look forward to the rather weird but welcome future announcement from Ruger that "oh wait, no, we're NOT discontinuing most of these best-sellers from the last 50 years!".

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:47 PM (U/Byj)

151 I normally lurk here but I have a question. I am interested in getting a PCC and have been looking at both the Kel-Tec Sub2000 and the S&W FCP. Both in 9mm. I haven’t shot either, but am wondering if anyone here has an opinion on the rifles. Thanks.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 08, 2026 08:48 PM (uj9Hl)

152 Rufus I've shot neither, but have shot the Ruger PCC and the CZ Scorpion (?) and both were nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:49 PM (U/Byj)

153 Walking back shit already for the dems. Trump doesn't have to do fuck all now. It's all you, dems.

Go to Dem forums and right now their argument is that the economic stuff they promised isn't really what they are going to focus on - they have to get Trump first.

So expect the economy to be worse then now for the next 2 years with every media organ arguing its Trump's fault.

The first CR should be interested the Dems want to bring back Bidenflation - does Trump say hell no and "let the government shut down" or negotiate with them and print enough dollars for 10% inflation compared to Biden's 20%+?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 08, 2026 08:49 PM (sKqQm)

154 Not really. Nikasil isn’t an alloy you can make a barrel from. It’s a thin plated coating of nickel with silicon carbide particles, applied to the inside of aluminum cylinders. Porsche used it on cylinders in its air-cooled engines, and some later Porsche engines use different aluminum-silicon cylinder designs instead.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 08:53 PM (oqH4h)

155 Could you make a pistol barrel out of Nikasil alloy, as was used in Chevy Vega (and some Porsche models) engine blocks? The cast alloy contains a mesh latticework of hard silicon crystals in a matrix of aluminum. I expect the wear rate might be quite high, but if the barrels could be made cheap enough to be "disposables", that might not matter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 08:46 PM (yky4J)

Wouldn't the barrels have to be thicker in order to compensate for the reduced strength of the materials compared to steel? If so, that would be a big problem for a handgun, where size considerations are important compared to rifles.
IIRC, barrels have to withstand the high pressures resulting from the controlled detonation that results when smokeless powder gets ignited. Substituting weaker metals for this key component's manufacture doesn't seem like a good way to cut costs.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:54 PM (iXzAN)

156 Speaking of inflation just checked ammoseek and 9mm looks like it hasn't gone up a bit. It's been pretty reasonable for a long time (I don't buy factory any more so I only know by checking shopping engines like that).

As I have no historical sense of "normal" 223/5.56 prices didn't check those.

Again I think panicky stuff is more likely to appear a year or more hence.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:54 PM (U/Byj)

157 Both my sons are shooters as is my DiL.

Son#1 started out a little rough, but is prett darn good now.

Marine rocks, but I still can outshoot him on occasion.

DiL wants a RI 1911. She shot mine very very well. Her parents are both Sig fans. I am not. All good.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 08:54 PM (yEz+x)

158 and the S&W FCP. Both in 9mm. I haven’t shot either, but am wondering if anyone here has an opinion on the rifles. Thanks."

Mentioned that earlier.

Seemed quite nice, especially with the Romeo MSR...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:55 PM (pfXMo)

159 Nurse it's nice to have extended/marriage family of gun nuts. Lucky!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:55 PM (U/Byj)

160 Rufus, the SW FPC folds sideways allowing an optic to stay mounted. Also has much better ammo capacity - two 23 round mags in the stock and one 17 in the mag well. Compatible with SW pistol mags.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 08:56 PM (HdjQ+)

161 Seemed quite nice, especially with the Romeo MSR...
Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:55 PM (pfXMo)
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I've had a couple of Sig's optics and have been impressed with neither. I'd rather Holosun for the price point or upgrade to Aimpoint or EOTech.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 08:58 PM (oqH4h)

162 two 23 round mags in the stock and one 17 in the mag well. Compatible with SW pistol mags"

It's a bit heavy at the back end with fully loaded mags...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:58 PM (pfXMo)

163 Thanks Ed L. Have not pondered the dynamics of hostile takeovers much. Sounds logical. So perhaps if Ruger fights them off we can look forward to the rather weird but welcome future announcement from Ruger that "oh wait, no, we're NOT discontinuing most of these best-sellers from the last 50 years!".
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 08:47 PM (U/Byj)

Assuming that Ruger can hang on to the majority of the workforce with the know how required, yes. People with skills in firearms manufacturing are in high demand right now, especially if a firm has military contracts to fill.

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 08:59 PM (iXzAN)

164 Thanks rhomboid!


She’s a good egg. And carrying my granddaughter due in Feb.

Her dad is a Marine. Her mom is based. All good.

I have a picture of my DiL shooting an M1. No wonder my son fell for her.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 08:59 PM (yEz+x)

165 FWIW, try the Kuna as well...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 09:00 PM (pfXMo)

166 132 The Titan II CEP sucked. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM (XTrBf)


9 megatons makes up for a considerable lack of accuracy, if you're aiming for a soft target like a city.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 09:04 PM (X5Jzz)

167 Spay and neuter your Democrats, people. See what happens when you don't?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 09:05 PM (yky4J)

168 Signing off early.

Thanks for a great Gun Thread, Weasel. See y'all in the Morning Report.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 09:06 PM (9YDB8)

169 Marine told me that magazines have a date stamp on them. WA and CA both have 10 round mag limits. Does this mean I can get in trouble for purchasing magazines out of state, legally, and bring them home?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 09:07 PM (yEz+x)

170 FWIW, the MSR's shape seemed to give a very user friendly sight picture... made it very easy to quickly aquire the target...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 09:07 PM (pfXMo)

171 >>>>two 23 round mags in the stock and one 17 in the mag well. Compatible with SW pistol mags"

It's a bit heavy at the back end with fully loaded mags...
Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 08:58 PM (pfXMo)
*****
When looking at the S&W the magazine storage in the stock appeared to be a nice feature; hadn’t thought about the weight in the back.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 08, 2026 09:07 PM (uj9Hl)

172 Because, in WA as I understand, it is ok for me to own the magazines I already have, but I cannot get more.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 09:08 PM (yEz+x)

173 9 megatons makes up for a considerable lack of accuracy, if you're aiming for a soft target like a city.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 09:04 PM (X5Jzz)

I remember one of my fellow Army officers telling me about a CP computer aided wargame about the Fulda Gap where the Warsaw Pact hit the US V Corps sector with massive force. Someone decided that the only thing that could stop Ivan was a Titan II missile strike. He called it in right behind the lead Pact elements and watched as the resulting fireball vaporized not just the enemy, but half of his own troops as well. His only reaction after a minute of silence was to say, "Wow, that was a big one."

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 09:10 PM (iXzAN)

174 When looking at the S&W the magazine storage in the stock appeared to be a nice feature...

Regardless, it's a good firearm. Trigger is surprisingly good, and had no issues, and handled recoil well.

Also quite accurate.

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 09:12 PM (pfXMo)

175 Marine told me that magazines have a date stamp on them. WA and CA both have 10 round mag limits. Does this mean I can get in trouble for purchasing magazines out of state, legally, and bring them home?
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 09:07 PM (yEz+x)

Nurse, I know Magpul's AR magazines do (look on the left side about 1/3 of the way down from the feed lips for the date code). But others (Wilson Combat 1911 magazines, current H&K MP5 magazines, etc.) don't have exterior markings I can see. If there are no date codes or other identifying marks, how can anyone trace them without going through the trouble of taking things apart?

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 09:17 PM (iXzAN)

176 When looking at the S&W the magazine storage in the stock appeared to be a nice feature; hadn’t thought about the weight in the back.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 08, 2026 09:07 PM (uj9Hl)

Not a deal-killer. It’s just like adding weight to any rifle stock making it more stable.
Plus, more ammo!
And it shoots well. 100 yards with a red dot all day long. Shot it in IDPA and it was consistently deadly under 25 yards.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 09:24 PM (tWXP5)

177 Nurse, congrats all around.

As Ed L says, I think the date stamp/mag thing varies quite a bit. Undated mags should be good in states recently adopting the idiotic mag limits. I got my standard mags during "freedom week" in CA which was a short period created by "St. Benitez" as the federal judge who struck down the mag limit is know among gun nuts. Shoulda got more. Won't hesitate to do so in AZ/NV if needed.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 09:26 PM (U/Byj)

178 Are you compensating for something?

Yes. I have a small duck. I named him Quackers.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2026 09:30 PM (FZzOq)

179 Only downside on FPC mags in the stock is the mag release. Poorly designed for grabbing one of the mags with the carbine shouldered.
I can live with it. If I’ve gone through 17 plus 23, I might want to take a quick breather.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 09:30 PM (tWXP5)

180 Real quick on Texas CC renewal. Go online to RSD
connect, create an account, answer a buttload of stuff Texas already knows, wait 24 hours, go back and log in and you can click on renewal. You can then finish up pretty easy. Be sure you have your current valid DL with Gold Star.

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 09:31 PM (LHPAg)

181 resident autist is off his meds

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 09:33 PM (oqH4h)

182 Time for me to sign off. Thanks for hosting (and cleaning up messes), Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 09:35 PM (iXzAN)

183 Yo, Weasel!
Cleanup on Anal Observation Scope?

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 09:35 PM (tWXP5)

184 Man and RI Red, thanks for your input. I appreciate it. I’m going to take a closer look at the S&W FPC. Wishing a good evening to all and thanks for the thread Weasel.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 08, 2026 09:36 PM (uj9Hl)

185 173
I remember one of my fellow Army officers telling me about a CP computer aided wargame about the Fulda Gap where the Warsaw Pact hit the US V Corps sector with massive force. Someone decided that the only thing that could stop Ivan was a Titan II missile strike. He called it in right behind the lead Pact elements and watched as the resulting fireball vaporized not just the enemy, but half of his own troops as well. His only reaction after a minute of silence was to say, "Wow, that was a big one."

Posted by: Ed L at November 08, 2026 09:10 PM (iXzAN)


Interesting that would be an option in a wargame. The Titan II was only deployed in silos in the Conus, and I don' think it had the range to reach Germany, although the Gemini launch vehicle could put a capsule into orbit, so maybe. A bigger problem would be that they were aimed at predetermined targets, and re-aiming them was a major operation.

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 09:41 PM (X5Jzz)

186 If I’ve gone through 17 plus 23, I might want to take a quick breather."

Heh... actually, the owner showed me how to reach up and "rotate" the weapon, pressing the release while pulling out the magazine, and it's in the proper orientation to insert...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 09:44 PM (pfXMo)

187 Yeah, for Fulda contingencies we had my favorite, the ADMs (Atomic Demolition Mines). Beautiful fall-out machines.

Until the late 80s the Soviets basically followed the Titan II approach for much of their force - accuracy was "meh" so .... use liquid-fueled designs with enormous lift capacity and put nice BIG warheads on them. As their tech got better, like us they went to much smaller warheads.

I think this all qualifies for gun thread discussion. Under the Things That Go Boom clause. Nukes make the nicest big booms.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 09:46 PM (U/Byj)

188 Nukes make the nicest big booms."

Read that as "bosoms"...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 09:47 PM (pfXMo)

189 188 Nukes make the nicest big booms."

Read that as "bosoms"...

Posted by: man at November 08, 2026 09:47 PM (pfXMo)


. . . and it's a boobs thread !

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 09:51 PM (X5Jzz)

190 She’s a good egg. And carrying my granddaughter due in Feb.

Her dad is a Marine. Her mom is based. All good.

I have a picture of my DiL shooting an M1. No wonder my son fell for her.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 08:59 PM (yEz+x)


Congrats, Nurse Grandma!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 08, 2026 09:53 PM (xVpNO)

191 172 Because, in WA as I understand, it is ok for me to own the magazines I already have, but I cannot get more.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 09:08 PM
A possible outcome of a possible burning time is that we will own whatever the heck we want and our very limited 'government' will say nary a word about it.

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 09:53 PM (LHPAg)

192 The M29 Davy Crockett Weapon System would have been the weapon of choice in the Fulda gap not a Titan II.

https://shorturl.ly/qtTPr

Goes to Wikipedia.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 09:57 PM (ZVgZ4)

193 TTG. Thanks for hosting, Weasel.
Your admonition to buy ammo is evergreen.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 09:58 PM (uhUgt)

194 192 The M29 Davy Crockett Weapon System would have been the weapon of choice in the Fulda gap not a Titan II.

https://shorturl.ly/qtTPr

Goes to Wikipedia.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 09:57 PM (ZVgZ4)


Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's give an Army Sergeant a nuke whose range is less than it's lethal radius!

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:00 PM (X5Jzz)

195 Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's give an Army Sergeant a nuke whose range is less than it's lethal radius!
Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 10:00 PM (X5Jzz)

That's what shelter is for. A substantial vehicle, or a berm, or a trench.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 10:01 PM (yky4J)

196 > . . . and it's a boobs thread !

Posted by: a.moron at November 08, 2026 09:51 PM (X5Jzz)

Speaking of, I see that nVidia's Jensen Huang is the latest guy to fall victim to a Chinese honeypot.

The ChiCom spy in question goes by Alice Huang (no relation to Jensen). Going by an image search, she looks pretty tasty.

It's not just mooks like Eric Swalwell. Even geniuses like Huang are sometimes guilty of letting the little head do the thinking for the big head.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:02 PM (qlLNh)

197 132 The Titan II CEP sucked. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2026 08:37 PM


I have an abandoned Titan II site 300 yards off of the property line at my farm.

I am not nearly as good of shot as the real precision shooting Morons at AOS.

OTOH, I almost had access to a "firearm" where I could ring the steel at 100 yards, 200 yards, 300 yards, 500 yards, 800 yards, and 1,000 yards ... with a single shot!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 08, 2026 10:08 PM (HlyYF)

198 Nood ONT.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:10 PM (qlLNh)

199 I don't understand why these men are so stupid. There's billions of women in the world, and virtually every one of them are obtainable to a billionaire, especially one like this guy.

On the other hand, the richest, most powerful man in the world is Jingpin Xi. I guess if he decides he wants to compromise you, he can do it.

I'm not an operative, but I've been studying that system, and these are the best psychologists in the world. The shit they teach in college is worthless.

Scott Adams clued me in to the real stuff, and I think that's only scratching the surface what they can do to a target.

Posted by: meh at November 08, 2026 10:34 PM (EkJwg)

200 "36 Next Congress should not have veto-override numbers, would think further 2A abuse will be performative DOA stuff.

And of course there's still SCOTUS to slap down egregious infringements.

I crack myself up! Try the veal.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 07:24 PM (U/Byj)"

Yeah I give it a coin toss that Roberts stabs us in the back thinking the tide has turned, and have suspected that ACB has been not wanting to play ball on 2A either. Also fairly sure Roberts pushed back on 2A cases to make our older justices hang on longer.

Dems will almost certainly try to either reinstate the NFA taxes or even jack them way up via reconciliation and gope wont do shit. This would create a rather large mess (which was the intent of the lawfare effort on our side, obviously, but either way it will bring enforcement issues to a head).

Long term the big issues are fighting back against state bans, fighting a fed level ban/bad scotus call, and fighting mail order ammo bans, private sale bans, and lead ammo bans and lead free primer (read: 5 year shelf life) mandates. People need to seriously arm up....

Posted by: heya at November 08, 2026 11:16 PM (Km6p/)

201 A lot of people need to ditch cruises and disneyland nonsense for a year and take stock of their household arms.

Thought experiment. Look at what you have... a lot of guys think they are in good shape with an AR, 500 rounds, a few mags... maybe some pistols and half a case of ball. Some 22s and a brick or two.

Imagine you are in Australia, UK, or France, and that list is what you had in, say, 1995. It's 2026 and there has been no resupply, and shit that is going down is going down. Not a good feel is it.

Do you have enough 22 to train new shooters? Do you have enough centerfire - guns, mags, ammo - not only to cover you and your family through dem shennanigans, but also enough to stash spares? Do you even own anything to throw on to carry some spare mags? Do you have legit boots?

Don't end up like the poor bastards in most other western nations. Don't forget 2013 when an AR mag was $60 and 5.56 was over a dollar a round.

And that's just the arms, not even touching those who don't have more than 5 days of food in the house.

Posted by: heya at November 08, 2026 11:27 PM (Km6p/)

202 Good evening to all of the GunHorde and a bigly thank you to Weasel. In Chicongo for a conference, but firearms season opens this coming weekend.

Posted by: Coelacanth at November 08, 2026 11:34 PM (fQqaC)

Food Thread: Luscious Thighs And Dry Butts?

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Pork Milanese is one of my easy weekday recipes that I can make with no planning other than buying the chops. Bone-in of course, because A) they taste better and 2. they are fun to eat!

But a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds*, and while my mantra is that as long as the food is good, I don't care what I eat; a little variety can't hurt.

But chicken thighs are damned good, so off to the market I went for boneless, skinless thighs. Usually I would bone them myself, but I was lazy, and in a bit of a rush. And was I happy with the boning job the butcher did? No, I was not. Serves me right!

Anyway, they turned out great! And the variegation of the meat grabbed onto the breadcrumb/cheese mixture very well, so they had a great texture... nice and crusty and crunchy!


*Stuff Jefferson Said, Volume 2. 1938

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Last week, commenter Dash my lace wigs! mentioned that she made a pork shoulder that was tasty but dry. She roasted it at 250 degrees on a rack for a whopping eight hours! I don't know how big it was, but that does seem like a lot of time. Hopefully she will give us the details this week, but in the meantime...challenge accepted!

I made a 10 pound bone-in pork shoulder yesterday, and I cooked it for a bit more than seven hours to 190 degrees. But...I cooked it in a roasting pan, which keeps it in its juices and protects it from some of the drying heat. I think that is the difference, because I cooked mine at between 275 and 300 degrees. I also left the fat cap on the top, and only trimmed the thickest fat.

What? How was it? Delicious! I made a sauce out of the copious drippings, and then mixed about half of it back into the pork after I pulled it. Well, one of the kitchen gnomes did most of the pulling, but I will of course take full credit.

It was moist and flavorful and very well received at dinner. Even the mini humans at the table enjoyed it! Of course the cole slaw was a hit too, and that was courtesy of commenter Bluebell, who sent me her go-to recipe. Good stuff!

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One snag I hit yesterday was that I had bought the pork butt at a local Wild Fork Foods, and it was frozen (all their stuff is). ANd damn! It was frozen hard. Like -20 hard! It took a long while to defrost, and even when I put it in the oven it was still below freezing in the middle.

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This looks tasty and easy and fun. But the insanity of cutting the sausage to ¼ inch makes me deeply suspicious of the recipe.

Cajun Potato Soup

Eh...it still sounds damned good, so I will make it anyway.

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The POSSLQ was given some UK candy by some colleagues, and I of course ate it before she had a chance to taste them. One was excellent! Chewy and caramely and absolutely worth the loosened fillings!

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But this one? Yuck! Dry and dusty and bland and not chocolaty at all.

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The Brits are just weird when it comes to candy.

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And speaking of Brits...here is my favorite British cooking channel! And this time it is a classic...Braised Short Ribs.

The recipe is about as straightforward as it gets. The reason why it is so good is the attention to detail. Nothing tough, but there are several steps that most people skip.


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Lunch today! A smoked bratwurst from my excellent local butcher and smokehouse.

The difference between good sausages and hotdogs, and the mass-market kind is huge, and well worth the price differential.

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The great garlic experiment of 2025-2026 was a resounding...meh. Send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

About the Bourbon Bubble...I think it has burst, but the category is also suffering from the inflation that affected everything else (Thanks Biden!). I think the sweet spot is still $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!

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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 04:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Fud.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 04:01 PM (aJ6nG)

3 Grilling Brats myself soon

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

4 I saw Luscious Thighs and Dry Butts open for Wet Leg at St. Andrew's.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 04:01 PM (kpS4V)

5 boneless, skinless thighs.

Sacraledge!
CBD, you know better!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 04:02 PM (NnhvP)

6 I made Trader Joe's Santa Maria Tri-Tip Roast the other night and I'll be feasting on it for a while. It makes great burritos!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 04:04 PM (kpS4V)

7 My friends just told me all the pumpkins and squash on the porch is edible. So I'll try to earn AOS cooking badges 1 and 2 / 150.

Nothing fancy. Yet.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 08, 2026 04:04 PM (Sco7b)

8 Chicken fried rice tonight.

Bourbon now.

That is all.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 04:05 PM (RORbl)

9 Had beef ribs last night.

Made beef stock this morning. Am slow cooking onions in the crockpot. Will add some red wine and Sherry vinegar to make French onion soup for dinner.

In the meantime, my place smells really good!

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 04:07 PM (yEz+x)

10 Made rustic potato soup for lunch. Made an enchilada casserole for the oven for dinner.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 04:07 PM (enNUy)

11 Making youth group dinner again tonight...

Boys asked for cold chicken sandwiches, so I cooked chicken breast tenders with olive oil, salt, and pepper late last night and chilled it. Sending Aldi hoagie rolls, chopped romaine, tomato, red onion, mayo, and honey mustard (not the dressing, but the 10 calorie Aldi mustard). And made a fruit tray with grapes, clementines, and pineapples, and am sending pretzel sticks and candy for dessert.

Easier dinner to make and prep than the last few, so may go back to this again...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 04:08 PM (Gb7+b)

12 Had 7 quarts of leftover soup.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 04:09 PM (enNUy)

13 Everyone loves luscious thighs and dry butts.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 08, 2026 04:09 PM (L/8vZ)

14 Nice vursht you got there, Sheriff

Posted by: Lili Von Schtup at November 08, 2026 04:10 PM (kOluj)

15 Re: last week's dry roast pork.

It was small, just about a pound and a half. I cooked it in a rack, as recommended, but I think that was a mistake. It was also a shoulder, so no bone, but the recipe was also for a shoulder.

I have another chunk in the freezer. Next time, I'll just put it in a Dutch oven so it doesn't lose what little moisture it has.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 04:10 PM (CjHsb)

16 7 My friends just told me all the pumpkins and squash on the porch is edible. So I'll try to earn AOS cooking badges 1 and 2 / 150.

Nothing fancy. Yet.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 08, 2026 04:04 PM

Pumpkin (roasted and mashed or from the can), sweet potato (diced), and black bean chili.
Chili powder, cumin, cayenne, cinnamon, salt, pepper, garlic, onion.
A can of diced tomatoes.
1/2 chicken bone broth (or reg chicken or veg or even turkey broth) and 1/2 white wine.

Perfect right now b/c of how cheap all 3 of the main ingredients are...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 04:12 PM (Gb7+b)

17 My favorite British cooking channel is Kay's Cooking.

Here, for instance is spaghetti Bolognese, but... different:

https://youtu.be/zNto-3DvDpw?is=ZrnDBVlBexY5iBS5

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2026 04:13 PM (BI5O2)

18 Until grilling time, could have a brandy

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 04:13 PM (Ia/+0)

19 Going in dry you said?

Posted by: Russell Brand at November 08, 2026 04:13 PM (NYA4V)

20 I am pretty sure Samuel Johnson said that.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 08, 2026 04:16 PM (LOvBA)

21 It was small, just about a pound and a half. I cooked it in a rack, as recommended, but I think that was a mistake.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 04:10 PM (CjHsb)
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Pork shoulder at 250F should go for 45-60 minutes per pound as a rule of thumb. Use a meat thermometer! If you're going for pulled pork consistency, cook it to 195 internal. A foil wrap or making it more of a braise in a dutch oven will make it cook faster.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 04:17 PM (oqH4h)

22 Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 0

Thank you.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 08, 2026 04:19 PM (Sco7b)

23
Probably, most of y'all have not eaten the glory that is a Texas Smoked Turkey.

This list has a couple of the Texas Smoked Turkeys on it, so dive in and pick one that sounds good for you. The other states turkeys sound good, but-

do any of them have a full pound of butter loaded into the cavity for extra rich lusciousness?

No, they do not.

https://tinyurl.com/8ufsa732

Anyway, choose your fave cause it really is an easy and nice way to serve a feast on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

BONUS! Leftovers are ten times better than with a standard turkey.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 04:19 PM (YSUhf)

24 Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 04:10 PM (CjHsb)

Size isn't everything, but...damn! That is small!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 04:22 PM (k5CNB)

25 Last night, I made a Grandma Pie Pizza.

It was delicioso.

Make sure you take Grandma's dentures out before cooking!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 04:22 PM (YSUhf)

26 I live in Texas and smoke my own turkey!

Wet brine (in the garage fridge) for 48-72 hours
Rinse
Spatchcock
Inject with a metric ass-load of butter and cajun spices
Rub butter under skin
Dry rub on the skin
Back into the fridge to set the rub and dry the skin out a bit
Into the smoker at 250 til' it's done.
Rest, carve, enjoy
Drink bourbon while contemplating my culinary prowess.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 04:24 PM (oqH4h)

27 22 Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 0

Thank you.
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 08, 2026 04:19 PM (Sco7b)

I made it this week and my meat loving chili boys loved it...and want it again this week b/c I got bags of 3lb sweet potatoes for 99 cents and still have a pumpkin on my porch (that my kid wants to roast and make pie out of, so we may split it)...and black beans and canned tomatoes are cheap (most expensive things are probably the broth and wine, but you can even water or beer if you want it cheaper)...

Oh and you can add paprika if you want to. That's less necessary, but I used it in my chili Thursday and liked it...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 04:25 PM (Gb7+b)

28 Had beef ribs last night.

Made beef stock this morning. Am slow cooking onions in the crockpot. Will add some red wine and Sherry vinegar to make French onion soup for dinner.

In the meantime, my place smells really good!
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 04:07 PM (yEz+x)

Beef ribs here today at Casa Sin Problemas. They've been a go-to at 4.89/lb from Walmart of late. Salted and resting at room temp for an hour before going on the grill..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 08, 2026 04:29 PM (08OqX)

29 I wonder how Mrs. CBD feels about being called a kitchen gnome.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:31 PM (uyuYG)

30 Tonight's menu:

Pasta with the Williams Sonoma Bolognese Sauce recipe. My wife and I first came across it probably 20 years ago when WS wrote it up for the electronic All-Clad slow cooker (which proved to be unreliable).

We just use a 9 qt. Dutch oven. A fair bit of prep but not too bad when you split prep duties between two people. And it freezes nicely.

Recipe here (goes to Williams Sonoma):

https://tinyurl.com/wsbolognesesauce

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 04:33 PM (iIyc0)

31 Make sure you take Grandma's dentures out before cooking!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 04:22 PM (YSUhf)

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Okay, this made me laugh!

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:33 PM (uyuYG)

32 Size isn't everything, but...damn! That is small!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 04:22 PM (k5CNB)

Haha, we'll, it's just the two of us, and Mr Dmlw! doesn't usually eat much of the leftovers I leave for him during the week.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 04:34 PM (CjHsb)

33 For pork butt, I use the basic technique as described in Myron Mixon's "Smokin'". I inject the butt with his pork injector recipe and after a rest I put it in a large aluminum Lasagna pan (uncovered). Into the smoker at 250F for 3 hours, then drop the butt into a FRESH pan with 1 cup of apple juice and then cover everything with foil. Resume cooking at 250F until the internal temp hits 205F.

I also use a Thermoworks Smoke X4 to monitor the cook and double-check with Thermoworks' Thermapen One.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2026 04:34 PM (rj6Yv)

34 Recipe here (goes to Williams Sonoma):

https://tinyurl.com/wsbolognesesauce
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 04:33 PM (iIyc0)
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I made a recipe that looks almost identical to this a few weeks ago. My brother-in-law sent me a link to someone's blog. It was a big hit, but I thought there was too much wine taste. A me problem, since no one else thought so. But it was quite good.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:36 PM (uyuYG)

35
We drank what has to be one of the best cocktails I've ever made:

Menage au Quatre

1 oz Sipsmith VJOP Gin
1 oz Kina L'Aero D'Or (Aperitif Wine)
1 oz Cointreau
1 oz Fresh lemon juice

Shake, Shake, Shake. Strain. Adorn with lemon peel.

You can certainly use your favorite gin or kino aperitif. I just list these ingredients because I know they'll give your taste buds a heavenly experience.

Give it a whirl.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 04:36 PM (YSUhf)

36 A me problem, since no one else thought so. But it was quite good.
Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:36 PM (uyuYG)


It might be they didn't do the wine simmering step long enough...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 04:37 PM (iIyc0)

37 It might be they didn't do the wine simmering step long enough...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 04:37 PM (iIyc0)
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''Twas I that made it and you are probably right.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:37 PM (uyuYG)

38 Funny you should mention short ribs. Got some beautiful ones yesterday that I need to braise this week.

Also, last week's Fud Thread motivated me to get ingredients and finally try the Aviation cocktail. I'm liking this thing. I need to tweak the proportions a bit, but by and large it works.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 04:39 PM (9YDB8)

39 When you are simmering the wine, keep getting right down by the pan and smell. Once there is no longer any alcohol burn in your nostrils, it's good to go.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2026 04:39 PM (BI5O2)

40 My wife made my mom's Red Beans and Rice last night. It's sort of a cross between a soup and gumbo. Starts off with a roux, chicken, Andouille sausage, onions, etc. Couple cans of red beans. Great cold weather food and freezes well.

I saved that Cajun Potato Soup recipe. The 1/4 inch slices are (what I consider normal) for Andouille. It's a very greasy sausage and if cut thicker, or thinner, will either be too dry, or too fatty. And that soup looks like it's greasy enough as it is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 04:40 PM (RORbl)

41 Beer break! Got the tail lights changed on the trailer. $10 Loonies each for LED trailer lights, why not? Trailer now parked in yard.

Got paint on bumper, bumperettes, and brackets for the Shoebox Ford. Once the paint dries, will go back out and hang them on the car.

Hopefully nobody starts a fire near me. This wind would carry it for miles. I'm sure the flapdoodles on the ridge up north are all loced down.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 04:41 PM (yky4J)

42 Alrighty, that sauce is starting to smell mighty fine and I'm in full Galloping Gourmet mode.

Going for about 2.5 hours at 330 deg. F but the softness of the meat is the final check.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 04:43 PM (iIyc0)

43 I wonder how Mrs. CBD feels about being called a kitchen gnome.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:31 PM (uyuYG)


Nah...it was the younger brat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 04:44 PM (k5CNB)

44 And speaking of fun Brit cooking channels, here's a good one, complete with corporate sponsors we'd all approve of. Except Weasel. He'd expect Nightforce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jegr76GFIw&t=3s

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 04:44 PM (9YDB8)

45 SOUS VIDE THAWING ... For meats frozen rock solid -- or, more often, for meats I've forgotten to pull from the freezer soon enough -- I have found using the sous vide bath helps to speed up the process ... Initially, I set the temperature of the gadget to 40 degrees F (same as the temp inside a refrigerator) ... And, naturally, the frozen meat will cause the make the water's temp to drop -- making it necessary to periodically swap out and replace some of it with warmer (attempting to maintain a temp of 40 degrees) ... But this method has worked successfully multiple times, on both boneless and bone-in cuts of meat.

Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 04:44 PM (MOK4W)

46 Think I'll make cider brined turkey legs to bring to Thanksgiving. Maybe bacon Brussels sprouts too.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 04:47 PM (kpS4V)

47 Thanks cbd. That bratwurst is crying for sauerkraut.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 04:47 PM (RIvkX)

48 ''Twas I that made it and you are probably right.
Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:37 PM (uyuYG)


Or you can cut back on the amount of wine to suit your taste as well. I always treat a recipe as a starting point.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 04:48 PM (iIyc0)

49 Trying 7 minutes each side on a medium heat grill

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 04:48 PM (Ia/+0)

50 I am doing onions fryed on a hard roll

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 04:50 PM (Ia/+0)

51 Greetings from the asylum. I was trying on my funeral suit & the zipper head thing broke off the skirt, which has nothing to do with my posterior. I will have zipper replaced.

Now looking through funeral dress of several. I am going to pack that bag & do every single thing today & tomorrow that's on my mind.

Mother has no idea I'm doing this as she's mentally fine. She could be around longer on this roller coaster.

Son the elder talked to her & she's fine. Everything's fine! He then gave me some advice of concern. Nice of him but I'M FINE. I do not want to see her bedridden among already being sleep deprived & my husband has a cold which he will share.

I'm making a veg/lentil soup tonight that includes red wine. I will be drinking red wine. We student RN's were thrilled to read red wine kills viruses. I'm breaking the only drink Friday rule.

You saute whatever veg is in the fridge plus onions and garlic. Add veg broth, wine and lentils & diced tomatoes, thyme, herbes Provence, red pepper flakes. Simmer. Add more wine if you feel like it after drinking red wine. Done. Grandchildren think it does cure you as it's made with love.

I hope it will cure my husband's cold.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 08, 2026 04:51 PM (hzuYO)

52 Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 04:44 PM (MOK4W)

That is a good idea. I usually just put it in cold water, but your technique is better.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 04:52 PM (k5CNB)

53 Sooooo much cultural appropriation on the food thread, I just CAN'T TAKE IT !!!

In my country the pork butt is sacred, and only accessible to the tribal leaders. Afterwards, we may cook it for dinner under strict guidelines AFTER the tribal leader loses interest or finds one more to his liking.

Posted by: Bongan Singh at November 08, 2026 04:52 PM (dIske)

54 But this method has worked successfully multiple times, on both boneless and bone-in cuts of meat.
Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 04:44 PM (MOK4W)


You've reminded me I need to test my sous vide set up. It hasn't been unpacked since we moved.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 04:57 PM (iIyc0)

55 My favorite British cooking channel is Kay's Cooking.

Here, for instance is spaghetti Bolognese, but... different:

https://youtu.be/zNto-3DvDpw?is=ZrnDBVlBexY5iBS5
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2026 04:13 PM (BI5O2)

So someone told her to bake uncooked spaghetti partially covered with ground beef for 20 minutes, THEN add sliced onion and bake it for another 30 minutes. Something tells me she misunderstood the directions.

The crunching of the taster's sample...(shudder)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 08, 2026 04:59 PM (08OqX)

56 Stateless, I used to cook down pumpkins I bought after Halloween for stews, and for pies.
The difference is, a nice hubbard or acorn squash generally has better flavor.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 05:03 PM (rbvCR)

57 I canned a second batch of pork stew this week, but it turned out thinner because I didn't have carrots and for some reason I decided to not substitute potatoes. The recipe suggests thickening the stew with flour or cornstarch, but I don't like corn starch and I worry about using flour gravy in a pressure cooker.

Being thin is not an issue, they are in pints, and they will go nicely over cooked rice or boiled potatoes.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 05:05 PM (rbvCR)

58 I made Grandma pizza on the Blackstone. Turned out very good. Need to tweak the dough recipe a little.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 05:05 PM (SN8r1)

59 Watching YD's "spaghetti Bolognese" video.

Holeeee Crap.

That looks like something the "Everyone's So Creative" gal would critique.

An example:

https://youtu.be/2M7B2xqDkZE

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 05:06 PM (iIyc0)

60 "I cooked it in a roasting pan, which keeps it in its juices and protects it from some of the drying heat. I think that is the difference, because I cooked mine at between 275 and 300 degrees. I also left the fat cap on the top, and only trimmed the thickest fat. "

Our favorite BBQ place in Fort Worth is Cousins, and their brisket, if you order a boatload of it, comes wrapped in foil with a little sticker on top stating "layer of fat is left on for flavor."
I asked the owner for a few of those stickers to wear my ownself, and the brisket was (and I presume, still is) luscious and smoky and fork tender. Fat is good!!!

Posted by: Moki at November 08, 2026 05:08 PM (wLjpr)

61 Should have been a 1WP, our oven, a Jenn Air is giving us a warning it needs help. Its electronics have been whittling down in whats it should be able to do.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 05:10 PM (Ia/+0)

62 You can certainly use your favorite gin or kino aperitif. I just list these ingredients because I know they'll give your taste buds a heavenly experience.

Give it a whirl.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 04:36 PM (YSUhf)
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If you like this and also like bourbon, try a Paper Plane

Equal parts Bourbon, Amaro Nonino, Aperol, and lemon juice.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 05:11 PM (oqH4h)

63 bean soup and cornbread

Posted by: what the cat drug in at November 08, 2026 05:11 PM (jrgJz)

64 Peter Luger brand brats are probably the best of the store-bought stuff. Not the greatest brats I ever had, but better than most stuff.

I tried a different brand last week. ‘Chef Martin.’ I was skeptical from the start because the packaging looked soyboy to the max.

I shoulda heeded that warning. The brats were basically tasteless hotdogs. The pack came with 4 links. Cooked two. Threw the other two out.

Life’s too short to waste on lousy food (or lousy booze or cigars).

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 08, 2026 05:12 PM (reaaR)

65 I am going to experiment by using a tangzhong dough in pizza to see if it will make a more tender dough.

Tangzhong is the method of cooking some of your flour and water into a white gravy, (Or library paste, they both have the same recipe) and then mixing it cool in with your yeast, flour, salt and water to make a softer loaf. I do this for bread, and it keeps the bread from going stale quite as fast.
The tangzhong gets the gluten to gel ahead of time, and I think it holds onto the moisture in the dough better.
I have not had much luck with a NY crust or a Neapolitan crust, and I seem to always taste the baking powder in pizza for some reason. Bleagh.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 05:12 PM (rbvCR)

66 Time to make kimchee this week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 05:14 PM (9YDB8)

67 I purchased a bag of caramelized onion and cranberry potato chips. I have not been brave enough to try them yet.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 05:19 PM (8Uo7a)

68 I've just moved past the contemplation stage and started chopping all the somewhat elderly fresh vegetables discovered in the bottom of the fridge. I have some cooked white chicken meat also kicking around, some in the freezer and a breast in the fridge, soup it is.
Probably start with chicken ramen with packet made with chicken broth, and add those veggies and whatever I feel like getting rid of. 4 remaining pepperoni slices? Why not.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 05:19 PM (sl73Y)

69 Probably start with chicken ramen with packet made with chicken broth, and add those veggies and whatever I feel like getting rid of. 4 remaining pepperoni slices? Why not.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 05:19 PM (sl73Y)

You are describing what I call "glorp". Ramen noodles augmented by whatever I find in the fridge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 05:24 PM (yky4J)

70 I wonder how Mrs. CBD feels about being called a kitchen gnome.
Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:31 PM (uyuYG)
====

Or a POSSLQ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 05:28 PM (RIvkX)

71 There's a wild market with Ramen. Too bad most of it revolves around a single portion with 2500mg sodium and about zero anything else.

I'd like to try something else... Raman without the salt.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 05:29 PM (RORbl)

72 TURKEY DAY LEFTOVERS -- It's that time of year to locate and test your waffle-making device (and replace it if not working) ... Nothing beats it for reheating leftover stuffing -- yielding crispy outside edges -- after which you can stack it high with leftover turkey, mashed potatoes, and heavy drizzles of gravy!

Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 05:31 PM (MOK4W)

73 I lightly toast crumbled up ramen in butter to top a Chinese chicken salad

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 05:32 PM (RIvkX)

74 Nothing beats it for reheating leftover stuffing -- yielding crispy outside edges -- after which you can stack it high with leftover turkey, mashed potatoes, and heavy drizzles of gravy!
Posted by: Kathy

Thanks, late Thursday dinner menu made!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 05:32 PM (NnhvP)

75 71 There's a wild market with Ramen. Too bad most of it revolves around a single portion with 2500mg sodium and about zero anything else.

I'd like to try something else... Raman without the salt.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 05:29 PM (RORbl)

Buy the noodles fresh from HMart...they are really good without 2500mg of sodium...and not fried, either...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 05:33 PM (Gb7+b)

76 If you eat some of the imported products and things like biscuits, check the ingredients. A lot of the Italian and German brands have started to cheapen the ingredients. Cheap substitutes like seed oils have made their way into many of the jarred foods and brands like Balksen biscuits. No thanks, there is. I longer a reason to pay that premium. Oddly, the French have held their ground.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 08, 2026 05:35 PM (mPkw6)

77 The new work wifi does not like the Horde...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 05:36 PM (lbtIB)

78 Oh, hey, the phone changed IP to an unblocked one. Sweet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 05:36 PM (lbtIB)

79 A new T&T market opened this week and people have lost their minds.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 05:37 PM (RIvkX)

80 I'd like to try something else... Raman without the salt.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 05:29 PM (RORbl)

I have found packages of plain ramen and soba noodles, with no flavor packets. I cook those, throw in veggies and cubed or shredded meat, and a bit of bottled fry sauce. It turns out good.

Only thing is, the noodles aren't curly, and while it's not that big a deal, I like the curly ones.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 05:37 PM (CjHsb)

81 A new T&T market opened this week and people have lost their minds.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 05:37 PM (RIvkX)

Tits and Tanquerey?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 05:39 PM (lbtIB)

82 > I'd like to try something else... Raman without the salt.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 05:29 PM (RORbl)

Buy the noodles fresh from HMart...they are really good without 2500mg of sodium...and not fried, either...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 05:33 PM (Gb7+b)
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I've started to discard any "seasoning packets" with them and just doing my own thing.

It's a work in progress. Raman was always salty.

A bit of chicken broth, or beef broth seems to be the right track right now. And fresh veggies. Etc....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 05:40 PM (RORbl)

83 I'd like to try something else... Raman without the salt.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 05:29 PM (RORbl)

I have found packages of plain ramen and soba noodles, with no flavor packets. I cook those, throw in veggies and cubed or shredded meat, and a bit of bottled fry sauce. It turns out good.

Only thing is, the noodles aren't curly, and while it's not that big a deal, I like the curly ones.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 05:37 PM (CjHsb)
——

I’ve had success with the cheap curly ramen but not using their spice packets. Just prepare the noodles in water and add your own (better and less salty) spices.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 08, 2026 05:40 PM (reaaR)

84 Close, WhatTheCatDrugIn:

We're having chili (made with sliced up chuck roast, tomatoes, and pinto beans, lots of garlic and spices) and cornbread.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 08, 2026 05:43 PM (3AwA+)

85 For anyone on a budget, everywhere has those Thanksgiving deals, but you may or may not want to make those sides with Thanksgiving...and/or you may want to buy more than 1 of the deals...

Since I posted what to do with pumpkin and sweet potatoes, let me post what to do with the cranberry sauce (whether it's jellied or whole berry). It's a sugar bomb which is a problem with most dinners...

So, instead of having it from the can, saute a bunch of apples slices (skin on or off) - whatever the onsale type or ones dying on your shelf are - in a pat of the fat of your choice (I suggest butter for those who can have it, coconut oil for those who can't) = then when they are close to the softness you want, toss in about a TB of cranberry sauce per apple sliced (I tend to do about 6-8 apples and use 1/3 the can). It becomes a really nice side for chicken, turkey, or pork and one with way less added sugar per serving, but no less deliciousness...

PS - yes, you can can add seasonings of choice, like cinnamon or ginger while sauteeing your apples...but it's not necessary...

PPS - This should also work with pears, but pears aren't as cheap this year...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 08, 2026 05:43 PM (Gb7+b)

86 Made corned beef sandwich tonight. Simple recipe, just onions and some Dijon on a ciabatta roll.

I have to say, I nailed it. [blows on knucles]

Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 08, 2026 05:43 PM (reaaR)

87 Hello! I just threw a healthier version of a pumpkin cheesecake into the oven because I was asked for it. Much to my surprise, this thing I have made for awhile now, or variations thereof, have been going viral on insta, hence the request. Now, this is not a healthy, go eat the entire pan type of thing. It is, however, about 1/2 the calories of a traditional pumpkin cheesecake.

16oz cream cheese, soften
1 15oz can pumpkin purée
2 tsp pumpkin pie spice
1/2 cup maple syrup (I use a little less, and honestly am tempted to try 1/4 cup)
1tsp vanilla
3 eggs

Mix all of this together in a 9x13 baking dish, bake at 350 for 35-40 minutes and then chill it overnight before serving. The chill part is important to get the dense, cheesecake consistency. The full dish is about 2300 calories.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 05:43 PM (ZdaMQ)

88 Also, for dinner, we are having Moroccan spiced pork chops, couscous and cauliflower.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 05:45 PM (ZdaMQ)

89 I seem to always taste the baking powder in pizza for some reason. Bleagh.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 05:12 PM (rbvCR)


Baking powder in pizza dough?

There's a solution to this. Use a good pizza dough recipe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 05:46 PM (k5CNB)

90 Ben Had,

Last year I tried the Trader Joe's Thanksgiving-flavored potato chips: turkey, cranberry, dressing, &c. Ugh. Threw them out. Hope you have better luck.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 08, 2026 05:46 PM (3AwA+)

91 cornbread is one of the 4 basic food groups

Posted by: what the cat drug in at November 08, 2026 05:46 PM (jrgJz)

92 Ok, since you ladies taught a mouth breather like me to make icing, how about a good oatmeal cookie recipe?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 08, 2026 05:46 PM (mPkw6)

93 “ On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine— the best of meats and the finest of wines.”

Isaiah 25:6

Posted by: Marcus T at November 08, 2026 05:50 PM (/iaZu)

94 Well, beer is finished. Enough daylight left to hang the bumper back on the shoebox Ford, meaning fewer parts lying around to trip over or lose.

Back to the salt mines.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 05:50 PM (yky4J)

95 Time to make kimchee this week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 05:14 PM (9YDB


F*cking tease.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 05:51 PM (k5CNB)

96 And for the record....

Boneless, but with the skin still (sort of) on... chicken thighs are awesome.

It's been our go-to for BBQ "like" chicken. Cooked on the smoker in about 40 min. Moist, smokey, tender....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 05:51 PM (RORbl)

97 92 Ok, since you ladies taught a mouth breather like me to make icing, how about a good oatmeal cookie recipe?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 08, 2026

When husky good, do you want a decadent version, or a healthy version?

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 05:52 PM (ZdaMQ)

98 Husky? That was “you say”. Where did husky come from that?

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 05:54 PM (ZdaMQ)

99 Amazing thing is wife said I left gas on after grilling something and caught it the next day. Thought for sure ran gas out. But now have grilled 5 times so not sure what went on.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 05:54 PM (Ia/+0)

100 " cornbread is one of the 4 basic food groups.
Posted by: what the cat drug in"

It is way down south here in Dixie!

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 08, 2026 05:55 PM (3AwA+)

101 Sun noodle refrigerated ramen noodles are very yummy. You can freeze them, too.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 05:56 PM (ZdaMQ)

102 I am not a dark meat fan but Pete Bog's Vietnamese caramel chicken was scrumptious.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 05:57 PM (8Uo7a)

103 Husky? That was “you say”. Where did husky come from that?
Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 05:54 PM (ZdaMQ)

The ways of Autocucmber are mysterious.

Doubt not the Lord Autocucumber.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 05:57 PM (lbtIB)

104 101 Sun noodle refrigerated ramen noodles are very yummy. You can freeze them, too.
Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 05:56 PM (ZdaMQ)

I have not seen these in my AO. Do you have to go to a specialty store?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 05:59 PM (CjHsb)

105 Update on the soup preparation, the chicken breast in the fridge looked and felt highly suspicious, but smelt and tasted alright. Was double wrapped, but leftover from a rotisserie chicken from a while back.
I'm going with it, I'll leave it at a high simmer for a bit longer once I put the chicken in. Jackstraw can keep an eye out on RI news reports for any food poisoning incidents being reported.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 05:59 PM (sl73Y)

106 I always tend to go after dark meat on turkey

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 05:59 PM (Ia/+0)

107 I'm going with it, I'll leave it at a high simmer for a bit longer once I put the chicken in. Jackstraw can keep an eye out on RI news reports for any food poisoning incidents being reported.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 05:59 PM (sl73Y

Eh. Boil for three minutes before you simmer, it'll be fine!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 06:01 PM (CjHsb)

108 Tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches. A hogmartin suggestion, done and done!

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 06:02 PM (LHPAg)

109 I wonder how Mrs. CBD feels about being called a kitchen gnome.
Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 04:31 PM (uyuYG)
====

Or a POSSLQ
Posted by: San Franpsycho
====
I remember SLQ being sharing living quarters, but what was POS for?? Could get you hurt.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 06:02 PM (sl73Y)

110 Back from a late afternoon constitutional with the delightful and athletic Mrs naturalfake.

Lesse what's upstairs.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 06:03 PM (YSUhf)

111 There's a solution to this. Use a good pizza dough recipe.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 05:46 PM (k5CNB


That would also involve getting low-gluten flour, and the point is to avoid that. I don't have much use for it otherwise.
Buying spelt for my starter is as far as I want to go at the moment.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:04 PM (rbvCR)

112 Ballistic,

Yeah, the Paper Plane is a good one!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 06:04 PM (YSUhf)

113 Piper is eating a husky?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 06:04 PM (k5CNB)

114 I owe some friends a dinner so lobster in champagne sauce it will be.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 06:05 PM (8Uo7a)

115 My wife makes kimchi about once a month, more often if she can find a deal on Napa cabbage. Usually about a gallon and a half, which is what fits in the big steel dish for sweating down with the salt.
When it starts to go soft after a couple of weeks she makes gobs of kimchi soup.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:06 PM (rbvCR)

116 113 Piper is eating a husky?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November

Can’t be good for my tumor.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:06 PM (ZdaMQ)

117 Piper nor you moral standing

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 06:08 PM (Ia/+0)

118 My Italian friends just asked if we could spend Thanksgiving together if they promised not to make Thanksgiving lasagna. I am laughing so hard, though maybe with leftovers there is a potential here….

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:08 PM (ZdaMQ)

119 Also there are lots of different types of noodles if you want to avoid the Ramen. I like using the buckwheat ones I get from H-Mart, they seem to cook up fast. I got them for making Chapchae for my wife since I couldn't read the labels and I didn't know I was supposed to get the sweet potato noodles.

Oh, and sweet potato noodles might be a good substitute for ramen as well.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:08 PM (rbvCR)

120 That would also involve getting low-gluten flour, and the point is to avoid that. I don't have much use for it otherwise.
Buying spelt for my starter is as far as I want to go at the moment.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:04 PM (r

I'm not understanding this whole conversation. You don't use bread flour for pizza dough? With yeast? Or even sourdough starter? What kind of chef boy-ar-dee recipe are you using, Kindltot? Not trying to be a jerk, but genuinely curious.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 06:11 PM (CjHsb)

121

And little Early-Pearly came by in his curly-wurly
And asked me if I needed a ride

I thought that candy looked familiar.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 06:15 PM (Cqx++)

122 Kimchee fried rice with a couple fried eggs on top is the breakfast of champions.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:16 PM (6KVV0)

123 Time to make kimchee this week.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 05:14 PM (9YDB

F*cking tease.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 05:51 PM


*buffs knuckles*

*goes off to mix cocktail*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 06:18 PM (9YDB8)

124 Peter Reinhart has a pizza cookbook. He's very intense about the process. I've cooked with him a lot and I'm still not trusted to actually help him with pizza.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 06:21 PM (enNUy)

125 Flyover from Seahawks game.

Can any of y’all ID these planes?

https://tinyurl.com/k9586sd2

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:21 PM (yEz+x)

126 Tits and Tanquerey?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 05:39 PM (lbtIB)
====
No idea. Some Asian market chain from Canada.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06:22 PM (RIvkX)

127 126 Tits and Tanquerey?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 05:39 PM (lbtIB)
====
No idea. Some Asian market chain from Canada.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06

Things that will never happen in Alabama for $500

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM (ZdaMQ)

128 Kindltot, how's your pie crust coming along?

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM (uyuYG)

129 POSSLQ
Person of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters

IOW Jack Tripper, yes. Mr. Furley, no.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM (RIvkX)

130 I use bread flour for my pizza crust, with a yeast starter, and it tends to come out tough. This is a problem for me and I am trying to engineer my way around it.
I suspect it is because my oven is broken and I have been using a counter top roaster to bake in (and this is a tale of bad decisions on managing my life because I am cheap and my wife is concerned an oven is just a handy place to store pans) and this causes issues with baking.
There are ways around a tough crust, one of them of course is to use a baking powder crust and extra oil, but it comes out tasting like failed biscuits.
I am promised that a Neapolitan crust will solve all my problems, but that means I have to change flour to an 00 grade flour and I have too many flours on hand at the moment.
So failing to buy a decent oven or following directions, I am hunting for a solution which does not involve involve what CBD calls using "a good pizza dough recipe".

I live this way on purpose.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM (rbvCR)

131 Have a 3.75 Boston Butt going to spend tomorrow in the slow cooker in an Asian-sort-of braise. Leftovers will last through the weekend.

Yummers!

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 06:24 PM (NcvvS)

132 Things that will never happen in Alabama for $500
Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM (ZdaMQ)
=====

Every Asian lady in SF 18-45 is waiting in line to get in.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06:25 PM (RIvkX)

133 I have been canning stew and making bread, Bluebell. I have all the suggestion written down, so I am ready to try again.
It was good advice on why I made better apple crisps than apple pies, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:26 PM (rbvCR)

134 132 Things that will never happen in Alabama for $500
Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Every Asian lady in SF 18-45 is waiting in line to get in.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06:25

Our local grocery store is pretty well Cajun based. Geography is a thing even here in the USA!

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:27 PM (ZdaMQ)

135 Tonight we are going to Tia Margarita a classic Mexican American place. Red leather banquettes, game on the TV, loud blenders, refried beans, plates come hot from the oven.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06:27 PM (RIvkX)

136 Posted by: Kindltot
Use this guys dough calc and recipes.
https://tinyurl.com/yembm2dc

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 06:27 PM (NnhvP)

137 So failing to buy a decent oven or following directions, I am hunting for a solution which does not involve involve what CBD calls using "a good pizza dough recipe".

I live this way on purpose.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM (rbvCR)

Ah, now it makes sense. I would definitely not use the baking powder. I make a typical Neapolitan crust, but my mom makes a crust that has milk and butter in it. She heats that and puts the yeast in that mixture. You might even add an egg for lift and softness.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 06:28 PM (CjHsb)

138 What kind of chef boy-ar-dee recipe are you using, Kindltot? Not trying to be a jerk, but genuinely curious.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

In the more foo foo crowd, it's gotta be some italian flour of 00 grind or whatever.
I just use a recipe from here, tony pete's or somebody.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 06:29 PM (sl73Y)

139 Use this guys dough calc and recipes.
https://tinyurl.com/yembm2dc
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 06:27 PM (NnhvP)


Bastard weighs water. This is wrong.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:29 PM (rbvCR)

140 139 Use this guys dough calc and recipes.
https://tinyurl.com/yembm2dc
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 06:27 PM (NnhvP)

Bastard weighs water. This is wrong.
Posted by: Kindltot


CBD counts the sugar granules.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:30 PM (yEz+x)

141 Why does Publix ground beef taste so much better than Kroger or Walmart?

What exactly are they putting in there?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 06:30 PM (lbtIB)

142 Bastard weighs water. This is wrong.
Posted by: Kindltot

1 sq ml is equal to 1 gram ( sorry about the math).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 06:31 PM (NnhvP)

143 LOL, nurse ratched

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 06:32 PM (CjHsb)

144 Water is pretty easy in metric.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 06:32 PM (lbtIB)

145 Tits and Tanquerey?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 05:39 PM (lbtIB)
====
No idea. Some Asian market chain from Canada.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06

Things that will never happen in Alabama for $500
Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:23 PM


Y'all don't like Tanqueray in Alabama?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026 06:32 PM (9YDB8)

146 CBD counts the sugar granules.
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:30 PM (yEz+x)


I'm gonna buy him some caster sugar to watch him panic.

My wife bought natural sea salt and I had to figure out how to use it, the grains were giant, and they were still slightly moist. The size of the grain does affect the volume.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:34 PM (rbvCR)

147

Gourmia recalled an estimated 175,951 of their air fryer ovens after getting dozens of customers reporting burns on their hands or wrists from using the product.

The recall, initiated Nov. 5, impacts Gourmia Stainless Steel Digital 9 Slice Digital Air Fryer Ovens since the doors can "unexpectedly close when bumped, posing a burn hazard to consumers retrieving hot food."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 06:34 PM (Cqx++)

148 Final soup update: pretty damn good. A lot better than the (much hated here) Patriots are showing.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 06:36 PM (sl73Y)

149 1 sq ml is equal to 1 gram ( sorry about the math).
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 06:31 PM (NnhvP)


At 4 degrees Centigrade! Otherwise the density and volume is off!

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:37 PM (rbvCR)

150 Crunchmaster rice crackers, a foo-foo peppered Brie from the local foo-foo place, Macintosh apple slices, and a several week aged Pinot Grigio for dinner.
Life is good.

Posted by: RI Red at November 08, 2026 06:37 PM (zYph5)

151
1 sq ml is equal to 1 gram ( sorry about the math).
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Square or cubic. Tough to handle square water.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 06:39 PM (sl73Y)

152 Y'all don't like Tanqueray in Alabama?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 08, 2026

We don’t like anything we can’t fry or blacken!

Haha. Kidding, I am sure Tanqueray is fine. But we won’t be getting an HMart or it’s T&T cousin over here on the gulf coast, I would imagine. Though the level of fine dining we do have might surprise a few!

Actually, forget I said that least it get into the wrong hands and those hands decide to migrate here.

Posted by: Piper at November 08, 2026 06:40 PM (ZdaMQ)

153 At 4 degrees Centigrade! Otherwise the density and volume is off!
Posted by: Kindltot

Or 75 F.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 06:40 PM (NnhvP)

154 Tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches. A hogmartin suggestion, do141 Why does Publix ground beef taste so much better than Kroger or Walmart?

What exactly are they putting in there?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2026 06:30 PM ne and done!
Sawdust?

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 06:41 PM (LHPAg)

155 WTH?

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2026 06:42 PM (LHPAg)

156 G'Night, all. Wife is out of town, cat is AWOL, dog wants attention, and the pork butt + seasonings (plus some dishes not yet done) also want attention. Until tomorrow.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 06:42 PM (NcvvS)

157 Looks like P-51's.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 06:43 PM (SN8r1)

158 At 4 degrees Centigrade! Otherwise the density and volume is off!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 06:37 PM (rbvCR)


No worries. I have a cubic function fit to the density of water as a function of temperature over a pretty wide range plugged into my HP-41C.

Good to go.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 06:44 PM (iIyc0)

159 My guess would be L to R: Mustang, Corsair and Buffalo.

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:45 PM (Dpv2s)

160 Square or cubic. Tough to handle square water.
Posted by: From about That Time

Good point: volume.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 06:45 PM (NnhvP)

161 courtesy of commenter Bluebell, who sent me her go-to recipe. Good stuff!

Why would anyone expect anything else from a Red Sox fan?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 06:46 PM (0sNs1)

162 Massholes fumbled, Cheesehead ball.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 06:46 PM (SN8r1)

163 Tough to handle square water.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 08, 2026 06:39 PM


Pro tip: Freeze it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 06:47 PM (0sNs1)

164 157 Looks like P-51's.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


Courtesy of the Boeing collection, we get to see all kinds of awesome vintage aircraft flying over the city on special occasions.

The museum itself is extraordinary.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:48 PM (qQ8yH)

165
Tough to handle square water.
Posted by: From about That Time

Pro tip: Freeze it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


But then it's cube water.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 06:48 PM (Cqx++)

166 Pro tip: Freeze it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 06:47 PM (0sNs1)


Ice squares. Sounds like a Nabisco product.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 06:48 PM (iIyc0)

167 I wish ill for Vrabel just for being a duck eye but the ‘stache just adds to the kink.

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:49 PM (Dpv2s)

168 159 My guess would be L to R: Mustang, Corsair and Buffalo.
Posted by: Accomack


Whoot! Thank you. I should be able to identify, but….

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:49 PM (qQ8yH)

169 The Packers are just destroying the Pats in Foxboro. What a beatdown.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 06:50 PM (viF8m)

170 All of them are p51’s?

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:50 PM (Dpv2s)

171 Tough to handle square water.
Posted by: From about That Time

Pro tip: Freeze it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

But then it's cube water.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 06:48 PM


Woah....

Posted by: Ted "Theodore" Logan at November 08, 2026 06:50 PM (9YDB8)

172 but the ‘stache just adds to the kink.
Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:49 PM


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: John Bolton at November 08, 2026 06:50 PM (0sNs1)

173 Pats are being pounded like a veal scampi.

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:51 PM (Dpv2s)

174 Lions beat Dolphins. Amazing.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2026 06:52 PM (rj6Yv)

175 We wants Presdent Obana on the Supream Cort !!

Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at November 08, 2026 06:52 PM (5sddq)

176 SEA SALT -- COARSE CRYSTALS
Yesterday I made a batch of Ina Garten's rosemary and chipotle roasted mixed nuts for a neighborhood get-together ... Had forgotten to buy more FLAKED sea salt so, instead, ran my coarse crystals in a spice grinder until they became a powder -- and was surprised how well the finer texture worked!

Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 06:52 PM (MOK4W)

177 Can any of y’all ID these planes?

https://tinyurl.com/k9586sd2
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:21 PM (yEz+x)


P-51 Mustang on the left, the other two are North American T-6 Texans.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 06:52 PM (iIyc0)

178 You like DRY BUTTS ???

Posted by: Jackson K. at November 08, 2026 06:53 PM (ZGneX)

179 Can any of y’all ID these planes?

https://tinyurl.com/k9586sd2
Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 06:21 PM


The lead is a Mustang P-51, the following two are trainers, Texan T-6s, I believe.

Posted by: John Bolton at November 08, 2026 06:54 PM (0sNs1)

180 Off John Bolton sock.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 06:55 PM (0sNs1)

181 Raiders SUCK again.

How many different ways can you screw yourself out of a TOUCHDOWN ????

Posted by: Jackson K. at November 08, 2026 06:56 PM (ZGneX)

182 I should be a ref with my skills at WAG’s.

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:56 PM (Dpv2s)

183 Yesterday I made a batch of Ina Garten's rosemary and chipotle roasted mixed nuts for a neighborhood get-together ... Had forgotten to buy more FLAKED sea salt so, instead, ran my coarse crystals in a spice grinder until they became a powder -- and was surprised how well the finer texture worked!
Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 06:52 PM (MOK4W)
====

I really like my OXO salt grinder with the adjustable ceramic mill. It doesn't cost and arm and a leg, either.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2026 06:57 PM (rj6Yv)

184 By the by, the bolognese sauce came out great.

BELCH.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 06:57 PM (iIyc0)

185 Panthers lost to the broncos. I'm taller than the panthers QB.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 06:57 PM (enNUy)

186 No comments on yesterday's Holy War?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 06:58 PM (0sNs1)

187 Only problem now is that Packers Pats will go till 8pm

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:58 PM (Dpv2s)

188 We had over an hour long fly around. Maybe they couldn't find the stadium. Panthers can't find the end zone so anyway.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 06:59 PM (enNUy)

189 No comments on yesterday's Holy War?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 06:58 PM (0sNs1)
=====

Which one?

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2026 06:59 PM (rj6Yv)

190 Hard to win with 4 picks and 10 penalties

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:59 PM (Dpv2s)

191 GUN NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 07:00 PM (Ia/+0)

192 Hard to win with 4 picks and 10 penalties
Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:59 PM


True dat. I doubt those tailgaters offering free beer to visiting fans has much effect on that, though.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 08, 2026 07:09 PM (0sNs1)

193 No idea. Some Asian market chain from Canada.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 06:22 PM (RIvkX)

There is a T&T market in Calgary. I have shopped there on occasion.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 07:16 PM (yky4J)

194 >>> The Packers are just destroying the Pats in Foxboro. What a beatdown.
~~~~~

That's my boys!

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 08, 2026 07:19 PM (3ImbR)

195 In NC, we have not heard of this pork shoulder in oven.
To the smoker! An hour per pound is a minimum, maybe that is why she did the all day thing.

Posted by: Book Rugrat at November 08, 2026 07:58 PM (wcnaS)

196 We used to get some pretty good hotdogs, excellent sausages, and very good bacon and veal at Whole Food. (Don’t judge)

Since Amazon bought them, the selection and quality throughout the store has gone down noticeably. RIP bulk goods and Black Forest bacon.

Posted by: Advo at November 08, 2026 08:10 PM (jO4mz)

197 "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" is a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson, not Jefferson.

Posted by: Redwine at November 08, 2026 11:39 PM (3TDsk)

198 Dash my lace wigs! mentioned that she made a pork shoulder that was tasty but dry. - When done cooking, let it sit for 15 or so minutes. Will be spouting twice its mass in juices in under 14.2 seconds when you cut into it (or at least be noticeably less dry). Also, and I did this last night, rub your selected protein slab (Had to carefully word that one, fershur) with baking soda and let it sit for 15 or 20 minutes. Then rinse off the baking soda and proceed as usual. Baking soda, like the superhero of the same name, destroys meat connective tissue and any meat is much more tender, even the leftovers the next day.

Posted by: diana pool at November 09, 2026 07:28 AM (o+L5I)

199 I did a couple experiments with chicken thighs. I bought regular bone-in thighs, weighed them, and then removed the skin and deboned them and weighed them again. Then I calculated the per pound price based on how much meat was left. I compared those prices to buying skinless/boneless and found that the per pound price for skinless/boneless was higher on the sticker but resulted in more meat.

I realize that some recipes call for skin-on/bone-in and also that there is some flavor in the bones, but if you're buying thighs for stir fry or whatever, it's cheaper to buy the skinless/boneless ones.

Just my $.20

Posted by: p-squared at November 09, 2026 09:35 AM (0prFs)

First World Problems...

wirenest26.jpg

Those are the control wires for an irrigation system. The unit still worked...barely, but I grew tired of having to predict the weather two weeks in advance, so I decided to swap it out for a WiFi unit that I can control remotely.

Great! Except the new one is far smaller than the original, and the paint around it was a mess anyway.

One problem. What f*cking color are the garage walls? I have no idea, it isn't labeled on any of the cans in the basement, and every attempt I made to get close seemed to make it worse.

Obviously I will have to repaint the entire house.

Big Paint might be worse than Big Ice!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 I painted my garage Ryobi Green and stone beige.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 02:01 PM (kpS4V)

3 Well done, Skip.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 02:02 PM (kpS4V)

4 Wiring is way above me. But drywall and patcing I could do in my sleep.
( often do)

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:03 PM (Ia/+0)

5 And at first, looking at the pic, I thought it was a wiring problem...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 02:03 PM (l3cgK)

6 Time to sell.

Posted by: Always the default answer at November 08, 2026 02:06 PM (2Ez/1)

7 And at first, looking at the pic, I thought it was a wiring problem...
Posted by: jim

Almost!
Actually the person who can read dimensions of new equipment. And probably colorblind as well!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:06 PM (NnhvP)

8 Big ICE will soon be abolished.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 02:06 PM (Cqx++)

9 Oh. Hi CBD!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:07 PM (NnhvP)

10 My 1wp is:

Yesterday, I raked up leaves from the areas where leaves were the thickest. Filled all of my yard waste cans, and the yard looked really good!

This morning, I see that it got windy last night, and the whole yard (half acre) is now speckled with leaves. Just enough to look like hell but not smother the grass.

The trees still have about half their leaves...

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 02:09 PM (rdVOm)

11 Paint it black and white!

Posted by: Big Penguin at November 08, 2026 02:11 PM (yky4J)

12 Not to worry, CBD.

Once Congress and the Senate change hands, all your FWPs will instantly convert to TWPs.

Hang in there!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 02:13 PM (D0X9e)

13 Any color you want.
As long as it's black.

Posted by: H. Ford at November 08, 2026 02:13 PM (2Ez/1)

14 It's just a garage. Who cares if the paint is a little off.

Posted by: Ronster at November 08, 2026 02:14 PM (QQf1O)

15 Just a little while ago raked up first tarp of leaves and drug it out back, to be chopped up later,
1 down, 30 more to go

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:14 PM (Ia/+0)

16 Wiring is way above me. But drywall and patcing I could do in my sleep.
( often do)
Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:03 PM (Ia/+0)

However, when it comes to spelling.....

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 08, 2026 02:15 PM (hmYU4)

17 Lunch is a grilled cheese sammich, made on rye bread, with old Cheddar, and cooked in a truly ancient grilled cheese sammich press inherited from the parents. Cord is insulated with asbestos; it's that old. Still works great.

Massive Chinook blowing outside, sunny, blue skies, and 50 degrees out there. Still want a sweater, though, because strong winds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:15 PM (yky4J)

18 I don't compost my leaves-- too much walnut mixed in.

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 02:16 PM (rdVOm)

19 What a weird looking spider!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 02:16 PM (ZVgZ4)

20 Stay warm AOP!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:16 PM (NnhvP)

21 I raked up leaves.....

I have never raked a leaf in my life. They just sort of melt into the earth.

Posted by: Ronster at November 08, 2026 02:17 PM (QQf1O)

22 I see a red door.

Posted by: Mick Jagger at November 08, 2026 02:18 PM (Cqx++)

23 You've got to work with what you have.

https://tinyurl.com/5yt4exwf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 02:18 PM (ndZc7)

24 Wallpaper!

Posted by: Book Rugrat at November 08, 2026 02:20 PM (wcnaS)

25 Typing on my phone is not my strong point either

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:20 PM (Ia/+0)

26 Those with third-world homes can't relate.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 08, 2026 02:20 PM (M0I1r)

27 Water from the kitchen sink doesn't go down the drain it comes out on the pantry floor under the secondary wash tub. I've used the Home Depot rooter on the outside overflow hit an obstruction but the rooter continued on. Inside the rooter when 2' then no mas.
I've redone the wash tub from the drain cap to the wall. There is a clean-out cover. Rooted through it and tub drain is working. Also the washer drain is working. Can't figure it out.
May have to sell the house.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 02:20 PM (wljQY)

28 Well, it appears the Krakow shooter may be trans, or ...something:

https://tinyurl.com/yeavz56c

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:20 PM (yky4J)

29 I really am getting bad at reading without glasses

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:21 PM (Ia/+0)

30 The color of the garage walls is: Aged …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 02:21 PM (ayRl+)

31 28 Well, it appears the Krakow shooter may be trans, or ...something:

https://tinyurl.com/yeavz56c
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:20 PM (yky4J)

In English:
"Michał Oksiński is an ordinary leftist, an Antifa member, and an anarcho-communist. At every turn, he mocked Christianity. The government wants you to believe that he is a right-winger. The only question is: who deleted the attacker’s two Facebook accounts, given that both his parents and his sister were found dead in their apartment?"

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 08, 2026 02:22 PM (M0I1r)

32 Stay warm AOP!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:16 PM (NnhvP)

I will be going outside soon to hang new LED tail lights on my car trailer. Down close to the ground, the wind lessens a bit. I will be cozy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:23 PM (yky4J)

33 29 I really am getting bad at reading without glasses

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:21 PM (Ia/+0)

I'm glad I can increase the zoom level in my browser...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 02:23 PM (l3cgK)

34 I really am getting bad at reading without glasses
Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:21 PM (Ia/+0)

I wear glasses and I still type authentic gibberish at times.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 08, 2026 02:23 PM (hmYU4)

35 There is ONE light … !

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 02:23 PM (ayRl+)

36 I like having the "one wall different from the others" paint scheme. It is a nice accent.

I admit that the color I had chosen for my livingroom was too dark for the natural light, so I painted the walls with the windows that color, and the other walls got a shade two times lighter. I love Eu du Nil, but one has to have decent lighting or it makes one feel underwater

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 02:24 PM (rbvCR)

37 Well, it appears the Krakow shooter may be trans, or ...something:

-
I think you mean "sxmxthxng."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 02:25 PM (ndZc7)

38 I had to patch a wall in the bedroom and I couldn't find the right color in my collection of samples. I cheaped out as a temporary measure and bought a half pint of "oops" paint from the paint store that was nearly right but brighter, and used that as a primer for the wall, and decided I liked the look.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 02:26 PM (rbvCR)

39 PAINT MATCHING ... One option is to gently cut through the paper layer of your drywall with a craft knife -- in an inconspicuous area -- to remove a minimum 1-inch square sample ... Then, take this square sample to your paint store which should have a scanner to perform a very close match to your square sample ... Finally, use some spackling to patch the area you cut out, sand, and paint with your matched paint ... Keep in mind that, if the existing paint is very old or grimy, it will affect the scanner results.

Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 02:26 PM (MOK4W)

40 Second hour mowing the leaves. One more hour to go. The front yard has a yellow lotus with tiny leaves. AI says they'll dry up and blow away but it's getting colder in my part of Canada and that doesn't happen. Easier to mow them. The front yard is ready for Christmas decorations which would usually be up a week ago in happier times.

Mulched leaves never come back. They're like dead enemies.

The backyard and side still have a bunch of leaves but maybe in a couple of weeks I'll do a final pass.

I looked it up on AI. Governments spend a fair amount just on getting rid of leaves.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 08, 2026 02:27 PM (Sco7b)

41 Paint the house? Nah. Rip out all the sheetrock in the garage and put in a layer of brick. Fireproofed for the next time you burn the house down!

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 02:27 PM (q1fbI)

42
In English:
"Michał Oksiński is an ordinary leftist, an Antifa member, and an anarcho-communist. At every turn, he mocked Christianity. The government wants you to believe that he is a right-winger. The only question is: who deleted the attacker’s two Facebook accounts, given that both his parents and his sister were found dead in their apartment?"



Grok
@grok
·
15h
The posts shown feature a rainbow flag, explicit mockery of the Pope and Jesus, and a positive comment on the "red light of communism." Those elements align more with left-wing, anti-clerical, or anarchist aesthetics than with typical Polish right-wing or nationalist ones. Official statements currently point the other way; the accounts are gone and the full record remains under investigation.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 02:27 PM (Cqx++)

43 Polish cop puts the hurt on the Krakow shooter despite being wounded himself and collapsing a few seconds later. Go to 0:55.

https://tinyurl.com/mvfzh8ak

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 02:28 PM (ndZc7)

44 Official statements currently point the other way; the accounts are gone and the full record remains under investigation.

-
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 02:29 PM (ndZc7)

45 36 I like having the "one wall different from the others" paint scheme. It is a nice accent.

My friend who redid much of the house after a flood a few years ago suggested an accent wall. It's a green and goes well with one of my late Mother's large fake trees that's there.

Looks good.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 08, 2026 02:29 PM (Sco7b)

46 I have a contractor that is goung to rebuild my bathroom. The floor gets replaced and the flange that caused the leak. I'll have an Onyx shower stall and he removes the restrictor, so I'll get a real shower. No more bare studs above the shower stall. I'm replacing the sink and toilet too. Not sure how I will deal withthe luxury of it all

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 08, 2026 02:30 PM (JNr/z)

47 Any color you want.
As long as it's black.
Posted by: H. Ford at November 08, 2026 02:13 PM (2Ez/1)


Repainting cars was a common thing then, the paint was not as durable as the later formulations.
Grandpa worked as a car salesman for a Ford dealership in the 20's, and part of the perks of the job was he could take a car home "for trying out" at times, especially if he had a date planned. He said he went to a party, and one of "the football players" (his term, it seemed important to him) got a belly full of prohibition period hooch, and then puked over the fender of his loaner Ford, and peeled the paint off of it. Grandpa had to pay to get it re-painted at the dealership shop

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 02:31 PM (rbvCR)

48 I don't rake leaves here, although the box elders and caragana shed plenty. Most of the yard is open space, and the wind carries them off. With today's Chinook, my leaves are probably close to Saskatchewan by now.

And I noticed yesterday, that the donation boxes for the Remembrance Day poppies are marked as having the money go in support of people hurt by the disaster in Wainwright.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:32 PM (yky4J)

49 39 PAINT MATCHING ... One option is to gently cut through the paper layer of your drywall with a craft knife -- in an inconspicuous area -- to remove a minimum 1-inch square sample ... Then, take this square sample to your paint store which should have a scanner to perform a very close match to your square sample ... Finally, use some spackling to patch the area you cut out, sand, and paint with your matched paint ... Keep in mind that, if the existing paint is very old or grimy, it will affect the scanner results.

Posted by: Kathy at November 08, 2026 02:26 PM (MOK4W)

"Why Yes, we can match this grimy white color!"--Home Depot

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 02:32 PM (l3cgK)

50 Just remember my 1WP, can't figure out how to change clock on my Mazda. Can't find anything playing with controls, nothing in index in manual

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:33 PM (Ia/+0)

51 Some friends moved to an area with tons of maple trees. Beautiful house, stream in back.

But for leaf removal, they actually have a pretty large mulcher to get rid of all of it.

Thanks all. Back to it.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 08, 2026 02:34 PM (Sco7b)

52 50 Just remember my 1WP, can't figure out how to change clock on my Mazda. Can't find anything playing with controls, nothing in index in manual

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:33 PM (Ia/+0)

Disconnect the battery, then at midnight, reconnect it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 02:35 PM (l3cgK)

53
I will be going outside soon to hang new LED tail lights on my car trailer. Down close to the ground, the wind lessens a bit. I will be cozy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Drained the oil in the Miata, totally chrushed the filter. It didn't move. Doh!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:36 PM (NnhvP)

54 I love my maple trees, they give me unending amounts of cover for my garlic and always fill the compost heap enclosure to the top. Any extra get raked onto the Iris patch for winter.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 02:37 PM (rbvCR)

55 52 50 Just remember my 1WP, can't figure out how to change clock on my Mazda. Can't find anything playing with controls, nothing in index in manual

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:33 PM (Ia/+0)

I use AI for a lot of crap like that.
So much easier then searching for answers.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 08, 2026 02:37 PM (Sco7b)

56 Battery might be a idea, but wouldn't put it past it to pick up the time right where it is.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:39 PM (Ia/+0)

57 Drained the oil in the Miata, totally chrushed the filter. It didn't move. Doh!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:36 PM (NnhvP)

Hammer an old screwdriver through the filter. Or maybe you can get the blade of a cold chisel on the filter's rolled rim (the strongest part), and tap it to move it CCW.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:40 PM (yky4J)

58 Just remember my 1WP, can't figure out how to change clock on my Mazda. Can't find anything playing with controls, nothing in index in manual
Posted by: Skip

Isn't there a switch that lets you choose between standard and DST? On my car I just press my finger on the time shown and the choice to change to standard time appears.

Posted by: Tuna at November 08, 2026 02:40 PM (lJ0H4)

59 Battery might be a idea, but wouldn't put it past it to pick up the time right where it is.
Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:39 PM (Ia/+0)

Digital clocks sometimes initialize at 0100.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:41 PM (yky4J)

60 I have the leak in the ceiling of my master bathroom fixed. I was briefly my wife's hero. The PEX is clearly not laid out for easy maintenance. This repair was ridiculously awkward. It might have been an easy install before the drywall went up but not now.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 02:41 PM (4NO2D)

61 You gotta garage?

What manly man repaints garage walls if the house isn't being sold?! Or, even then?

Get a 5 gallon paint pail, dump all of the unmarked & fairly close colored paint you've found into it and mix. That's the new inside garage color.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 08, 2026 02:42 PM (NFX2v)

62 I have the leak in the ceiling of my master bathroom fixed. I was briefly my wife's hero. The PEX is clearly not laid out for easy maintenance. This repair was ridiculously awkward. It might have been an easy install before the drywall went up but not now.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 02:41 PM (4NO2D)

Why do the British put their plumbing on the outside of the house?

So the pipes can be readily accessed if they freeze.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:43 PM (yky4J)

63
We just got back from watching -

"Wild Horse Nine"

Excellent movie. Great writing, directing, acting.
Plenty of good laughs with some serious turns.

Well worth watching.


The interesting thing is that as the plot concerns two spy who've been responsible for revolutions and/or assassinations in various countries.

This hits very differently than I think was intended by the folks who made it since-

we here in the United States have just suffered our own color revolution here in the US along with several assassination attempts and successes.

Their First World Problem is the message they wish to convey essessentially gets turned back on them by reality.

Regardless, good entertaining flick! Check it out!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 02:44 PM (YSUhf)

64 CBD, do you have any grandkids, or small nieces and nephews? Give them colored Sharpie markers, and let them paint a mural in the garage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:45 PM (yky4J)

65 change clock on my Mazda. Can't find anything playing with controls, nothing in index in manual
Posted by: Skip

Year and model?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:45 PM (NnhvP)

66 Steal some paint chips from Home Depot to take home for a look-see comparision, if you really want to match it. Otherwise, nine'll get you ten the "white" is some damn popular "off-white" paint color from the 80's, like "Navajo" or "Mocha Frost."

Posted by: tankascribe at November 08, 2026 02:47 PM (EhQXY)

67 Hammer an old screwdriver through the filter. Or maybe you can get the blade of a cold chisel on the filter's rolled rim (the strongest part), and tap it to move it CCW.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You've never seen how tight the area is in a Miata!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:48 PM (NnhvP)

68 Have some instructions from AI
It worked

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:49 PM (Ia/+0)

69 Play by play on the Krakow shooting.

https://tinyurl.com/5wa7z477

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 02:49 PM (ndZc7)

70 14 It's just a garage. Who cares if the paint is a little off.
Posted by: Ronster


Have you met CBD?

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 02:49 PM (yEz+x)

71 Have some instructions from AI
It worked
Posted by: Skip

Hooray!

Posted by: Tuna at November 08, 2026 02:50 PM (lJ0H4)

72 50 Just remember my 1WP, can't figure out how to change clock on my Mazda. Can't find anything playing with controls, nothing in index in manual
Posted by: Skip

More than not, internet has the answer & will direct you to YouTube for the how to video.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 08, 2026 02:50 PM (NFX2v)

73
two spy who've been responsible for revolutions and/or assassinations in various countries.

MAD magazine Spy vs Spy

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 02:52 PM (Cqx++)

74 Steal some paint chips from Home Depot to take home for a look-see comparision, if you really want to match it. Otherwise, nine'll get you ten the "white" is some damn popular "off-white" paint color from the 80's, like "Navajo" or "Mocha Frost."
Posted by: tankascribe at November 08, 2026 02:47 PM (EhQXY)

Well the problem appears to be that the paint not covered by the now-removed control panel has aged and darkened. Either you attempt to match the aged paint, or repaint the entire wall. Or one could try scrubbing the old paint with water and TSP, and see if it will restore its new appearance.

FWIW, I have had good luck with the el-cheapo Glidden paint from Wally World. 18 bucks a gallon or so. It's a garage; just paint it white and be done with it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:53 PM (yky4J)

75 CBD, just remember, white paint is RACIST!!

This Columbia professor wrote a ( potentially ) award-winning book about it ( link goes to The Federalist )

https://tinyurl.com/bdfxmsr6

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 08, 2026 02:53 PM (wqBfv)

76 Cool Skip.

Last leaf complaint. First step whenever I mow the lawn is picking up crap from Ralphy. But with all the leaves.

I have cheap Walmart lawn-mowing shoes.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 08, 2026 02:53 PM (Sco7b)

77 CBD, do you have any grandkids, or small nieces and nephews? Give them colored Sharpie markers, and let them paint a mural in the garage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:45 PM (yky4J)


We built an addition a long time ago, and one of the walls of our dining room was going to be demolished. We told the brats that they could draw on it if they wanted, and a week later we got a call from the mom of one of their friends, asking about it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 02:54 PM (k5CNB)

78 Have you met CBD?

Posted by: nurse ratched

No, I have not.

Posted by: Ronster at November 08, 2026 02:54 PM (QQf1O)

79 Swap lower watt light bulbs til you can't tell the difference.

Posted by: DaveA at November 08, 2026 02:54 PM (FhXTo)

80 One can cut out a piece of paint and get a paint store to match

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:55 PM (Ia/+0)

81 You've never seen how tight the area is in a Miata!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 02:48 PM (NnhvP)

Nope. Is the filter screwed directly to the block, or to an oil filter adapter housing? If the latter, maybe the 2-3 bolts for that could be removed, and filter separated from the housing on the bench.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 02:55 PM (yky4J)

82 I miss the maple seeds helicoptering down from the trees this time of year.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 08, 2026 02:55 PM (nDXEV)

83 Is the light lit on the nearby GFCI garage outlet??

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 08, 2026 02:56 PM (NFX2v)

84 Meanwhile the microwave blew an internal fuse.
Couldn't find a screw under the grease.

Posted by: DaveA at November 08, 2026 02:56 PM (FhXTo)

85 My FWP: The election is over, but just this morning got a half dozen more texts supposedly from politicians asking for money...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 02:57 PM (l3cgK)

86 With the Demicrats winning agian it will be likes has Presdent Obana back agains.

We love Presdent obamo ...

Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at November 08, 2026 02:58 PM (5sddq)

87 Well at least kn this movie the Nazis are being Nazis and the Communists are being Communists.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:58 PM (Ia/+0)

88 Brave AI says: (for mazda miata)
"Remove intake manifold brace, and passenger side front wheel to gain access to filter."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 03:00 PM (yky4J)

89 CBD when I do painting touch ups I get a sample of the exact same color and paint from the same source.

The touchups are invisible to visitors but I can still see the subtle change in tone and finish.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 03:00 PM (RIvkX)

90 My FWP: The election is over, but just this morning got a half dozen more texts supposedly from politicians asking for money...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 02:57 PM (l3cgK)


I block them and report them as spam.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 03:01 PM (k5CNB)

91 Color schemes

https://youtu.be/gZAUXVw_TW4

Posted by: Classic Frasier at November 08, 2026 03:01 PM (2Ez/1)

92 78 Have you met CBD?

Posted by: nurse ratched

No, I have not.

Posted by: Ronster


He can be a tad fussy.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 03:01 PM (yEz+x)

93 Paint chips.... our main living/dining area is "Woodrow Wilson White."

Can't forget that name. It's a "soft" white with a hint of yellow. Very warm. Easy to clean too. Goes very well with the wood laminate flooring.

"Tasteful"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 03:02 PM (RORbl)

94 I am available to restore damaged paint, and work for reasonable wages, too.

Posted by: Cecilia Giménez at November 08, 2026 03:04 PM (yky4J)

95 Nope. Is the filter screwed directly to the block, or to an oil filter adapter housing? If the latter, maybe the 2-3 bolts for that could be removed, and filter separated from the housing on the bench.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I wish.
I'm going to remove the driver side wheel, I read that it gives good access.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 03:05 PM (NnhvP)

96 mmm ... paint chips ..

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 03:05 PM (4NO2D)

97 just this morning got a half dozen more texts supposedly from politicians asking for money...
Posted by: jim

We didn't do anything for 2 years when we held all 3 branches, but now we need your money!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 03:07 PM (NnhvP)

98 Ha

CBS News, updated Nov. 8, 2026, Poland mourns victims of Krakow mass shooting as terrorism probe launched

In part, "Interior Minister Marcin Kierwiński said the suspect holds "very radical" and "ultranationalistic" views.

"Everything indicates that he was fascinated by far-right ideologies," Kierwiński said at a news conference."

---
Of course.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 08, 2026 03:08 PM (NFX2v)

99 @Skip

What year and model is your Mazda?

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 03:08 PM (oqH4h)

100 passenger side front wheel to gain access to filter."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

British passenger side!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 03:08 PM (NnhvP)

101
When I become Emperor of the World

- Exhibitors will pick up their armbands five minutes before their class is called.
- They will know their breed, class and dog's name. They will always have their glasses.
- The number of handlers will equal the number of dogs entered.
- I will not have to raise my voice calling the next class, so attentive will the exhibitors be to what is going on.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 03:09 PM (b8Otf)

102 I block them and report them as spam.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

CBD gets it!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 03:10 PM (NnhvP)

103 Color schemes

https://youtu.be/gZAUXVw_TW4
Posted by: Classic Frasier at November 08, 2026 03:01 PM (2Ez/1)
---/
Ha! Those colors are like the WASP pride flag.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 03:11 PM (kpS4V)

104 I've got my pressure washer out now that water restrictions are over even though we never got much rain during the entire summer. Magic, I guess.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 03:11 PM (enNUy)

105 I will not have to raise my voice calling the next class, so attentive will the exhibitors be to what is going on.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 03:09 PM (b8Otf)
---

Keep treats in your pocket to keep the exhibitors engaged.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 03:12 PM (kpS4V)

106 First WP out here

Major windstorm hit the area last night with top gust of 62mph. Lots of power outages. Mine stayed on, thankfully, but it’s a mess out there this morning.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 03:13 PM (35jYC)

107 I've got my pressure washer out now that water restrictions are over even though we never got much rain during the entire summer. Magic, I guess.
Posted by: NCKate

We are going to pressure was the chassis of the Miata very soon too. It's filthy.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 03:13 PM (NnhvP)

108 I miss the maple seeds helicoptering down from the trees this time of year.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 08, 2026 02:55 PM (nDXEV)
~~~~~

Are you from Australia? 'Round these parts they fall in the Spring.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 08, 2026 03:13 PM (3ImbR)

109 My husband is home from India finally. He won't let me pressure wash him.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 03:13 PM (enNUy)

110
Keep treats in your pocket to keep the exhibitors engaged.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 03:12 PM (kpS4V)

__________

Only by employing my tremendous, megaphonic voice can I penetrate the fog most of them float around in.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 03:14 PM (b8Otf)

111 I use a strap wrench to change oil filters. More torque. Where the fuel filter is on some vehicles is criminal.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 03:14 PM (SN8r1)

112 My husband is home from India finally. He won't let me pressure wash him.
Posted by: NCKate

Bribe the fire department.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 03:14 PM (NnhvP)

113 MX-30 2022, really liking it.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 03:15 PM (Ia/+0)

114 Greetings CBD

One solution would be to burn the entire house down - legally with permits and so forth - dig out the foundations and any underground utilities, plow over the lot/land and walk away satisfied that you resolved the problem once and for all.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at November 08, 2026 03:15 PM (QGaXH)

115 Are you from Australia? 'Round these parts they fall in the Spring.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 08, 2026 03:13 PM (3ImbR)


It depends on the species. Big Leaf, and Vine maple fall in the fall.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 03:15 PM (rbvCR)

116 Been getting spam calls all week, thought Tuesday it would end but as of yesterday was still getting them

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 03:17 PM (Ia/+0)

117 MX-30 2022, really liking it.
Posted by: Skip

Nice Mazda's have low repair costs. Hope yours's does too!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2026 03:17 PM (NnhvP)

118 113 MX-30 2022, really liking it.
Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 03:15 PM (Ia/+0)
-----------

Turn the ignition on (or switch the car to ON / Ready mode).

Press the Home button near the commander knob on the center console.

Scroll and select Settings from the main menu.

Navigate down and select System Settings.

Select Clock (or Time).

Highlight Daylight Savings Time:

Check / Turn ON to advance the time by +1 hour (Spring forward).

Uncheck / Turn OFF to fall back by -1 hour (Fall back).

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 03:17 PM (oqH4h)

119 I'm on bad terms with the fire department because every time we have a fire in the fire pit a stroller mom on the greenway which runs at the back of our property calls to report us. Fire guys come out, try to bullshit me, I call their bullshit, they leave. Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 03:19 PM (enNUy)

120 I would put the wiring under the sheet rock and in-set
a small box to surface mount the new controller on. Use wirenuts to splice smaller gage twisted wire to make easier connections. Any way you look at it is $100 in materials, and a weekend of labor.

Posted by: White Punk at November 08, 2026 03:20 PM (d1f3k)

121 Team up with Big Felt Tips and draw a head under the wires and sign it MEDUSA.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 03:20 PM (2WIwB)

122 Squishy gop house gets ready to impeach Hegseth
Blame game 1st victim

Posted by: Paul at November 08, 2026 03:20 PM (aV6Fc)

123 Getting around 33mpg, bet my F-150s got 15mpg

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 03:20 PM (Ia/+0)

124 >>"Everything indicates that he was fascinated by far-right ideologies," Kierwiński said at a news conference."


So he went to Krakow and opened fire on Polish Citizens?

Doesn't really add up, if you ask me...

Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2026 03:22 PM (/izzV)

125 Get a bigger hammer.

Posted by: Grok AI at November 08, 2026 03:22 PM (2Ez/1)

126 And, garages in my neck of the woods are left unpainted and have pealing tape, any color will do!

Posted by: White Punk at November 08, 2026 03:22 PM (d1f3k)

127 >>>It depends on the species. Big Leaf, and Vine maple fall in the fall.
~~~~~

Northwest/Australia. Same-same.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 08, 2026 03:23 PM (3ImbR)

128 1. Who paints their garage walls ever?

2. Start your lawnmower, close the garage up, and let it run for a couple hours. All the paint will be the same color.

3. Get a CO detector.

4. Maybe 3 should be 2.

Posted by: Pete at November 08, 2026 03:24 PM (EgHWO)

129 Only by employing my tremendous, megaphonic voice can I penetrate the fog most of them float around in.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 03:14 PM


I feel ya.

Posted by: That Guy who intones stentoriosly "Nothing will happen." on AoSHQ Threads at November 08, 2026 03:26 PM (0sNs1)

130 >>>I block them and report them as spam.
~~~~~

I was doing that for months until I got a personal text from Trump himself asking me if I had changed parties and abandoned him.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 08, 2026 03:27 PM (3ImbR)

131 Garages?
Sheesh! You rich people and your garages.
All we ever had was a lean-to next to the house and its roof leaked.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 03:27 PM (2WIwB)

132 The garage is my favorite room in the house.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 03:29 PM (2Ez/1)

133 124. So he went to Krakow and opened fire on Polish Citizens?

Doesn't really add up, if you ask me.
Posted by: garrett

And killed his family before.

No, of course not, but the odds of a different narrative in the press are highly unlikely.

If anything different might be, it'll just get quiet quickly.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 08, 2026 03:29 PM (NFX2v)

134 Another approach: Try taking the mounting plate off the old unit. Reattach to wall. Should cover problem area exactly. Attach new control unit to previously used mounting plate.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at November 08, 2026 03:32 PM (QGaXH)

135 In keeping with painting, flat/matte, eggshell, semi-gloss, gloss??

Latex, acrylic or oil based? Low VOC or not an issue? Masonry?

The UK is color-washing all rooms. A garage could have dark and moody tones for workshop or man cave feel. It could be trend next year in the US. & you could get ahead of it - if you're really brave.

Posted by: L - No nic... at November 08, 2026 03:33 PM (NFX2v)

136 I'm not sure why anyone needs remote controlled wifi, and at this point, I'm afraid to ask.

Posted by: Ironwood at November 08, 2026 03:33 PM (ob2d4)

137 Happy Birthday, Montana. Added on this date making it the 41st state.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 03:40 PM (SN8r1)

138 Another approach: Unexplained fire. We've been over this...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 03:40 PM (XeU6L)

139 I'm not sure why anyone needs remote controlled wifi, and at this point, I'm afraid to ask.
Posted by: Ironwood at November 08, 2026 03:33 PM


We're right here, you know.

Posted by: AWFL Sybian riders at November 08, 2026 03:41 PM (0sNs1)

140 >>Happy Birthday, Montana. Added on this date making it the 41st state.


I think you mean 51st.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 08, 2026 03:44 PM (/izzV)

141 Ohhhhh, that why a Montana YouTube short popped up
Montana is about same size as Japan, with less than 1/10th the population

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 03:50 PM (Ia/+0)

142 So he went to Krakow and opened fire on Polish Citizens?

Doesn't really add up, if you ask me...

Posted by: garrett
---

Brainwashed German agent.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 03:52 PM (AJWch)

143 Looks like aged Navajo White. Big color in the 70's and 80's. Every house and apartment my brother and I re-painted was that color.

Posted by: Jay at November 08, 2026 03:53 PM (a60nX)

144 My FWP: Why the HELL do they have to show Kansas City every friggin' weekend. I'm sick of seeing these bozos.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2026 03:56 PM (2WIwB)

145 144 My FWP: Why the HELL do they have to show Kansas City every friggin' weekend. I'm sick of seeing these bozos.

Posted by: Diogenes
---

How else is he going to make million dollar payroll?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 03:59 PM (AJWch)

146 Posted by: Jay at November 08, 2026 03:53 PM (a60nX)

Trust me...that color was an afterthought. I am confident that I told the painters to use something they already had.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 04:00 PM (k5CNB)

147 Football? Mr. Taylor Swift?

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 04:01 PM (enNUy)

148 Looks like aged Navajo White. Big color in the 70's and 80's. Every house and apartment my brother and I re-painted was that color.
Posted by: Jay
---------
At least it isn't Millennial grey.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 04:01 PM (XeU6L)

149 Get cleaned up and upstairs.
FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

150 Good Lord, who cares if there's a different-colored stripe around the sprinkler control on a garage wall.

Posted by: MartynWW at November 08, 2026 04:02 PM (KfIEy)

151 If you want it off white, you'll have to pay for yellow paint.

Posted by: Epson Painting at November 08, 2026 04:04 PM (2Ez/1)

152 It’s just wires. Stuff them back in the hole. Be a man and turn your sprinklers on by hand. You do plenty remotely so take a stand.

Posted by: rocdoctom at November 08, 2026 06:52 PM (BKVpU)

153 Navajo White?
I'm trying to figure out which one is doing the cultural appropriation.

Posted by: Book Rugrat at November 08, 2026 07:43 PM (wcnaS)

Mushy-Brained Moderates Got Us Into This Mess...They Won't Get Us Out

George Santayana famously wrote: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." The corollary, which applies perfectly to this mid-wit columnist is: "Those who don't know history are condemned to repeat it...first!"

Rikki Schlott is a 26-year-old columnist for the NY Post who seems never to have taken a history class that taught anything about the inexorable slide from soft socialism to wholesale murder. Or the uncomfortable fact that "One man, one vote, one time" has been the default in socialist countries for a very long time.

It doesn't matter that Abdul El-Sayed underperformed. It doesn't matter that the obviously retarded Nithya Raman barely won in Los Angeles. It doesn't matter that Twelver Mamdani only got 22% of registered voters.

They won. They are in power, and they will do what socialists always do...consolidate power, manipulate the electoral system, use the power of the purse to support their policies, and marginalize their opposition in every way possible.

DSA's shoddy midterm performance is proof voters want moderation, not socialism

Democrats just had a resounding midterm victory across the nation. But they’d be remiss to believe that the election results are an endorsement of the party’s creep to the far-left.

Analysis of Tuesday’s results shows that progressive and DSA-adjacent Democrats actually underperformed relative to their more moderate peers. That’s true across the country, with no major exceptions.

Voters who came out for Democrats in the midterms are sending a very specific message: they want moderation, not radical DSA craziness. Hopefully Mamdani and AOC won’t take the “blue tsunami” as permission to pursue their most extreme political dreams.


This flaccid-thinking child has no historical perspective, and no understanding of the true face of socialism. And it isn't her fault...yet. She went to a liberal prep school, leftist universities, and was hired for reasons beyond my understanding as a columnist at an age where she should be learning how to do research into the topics she pretends to have mastered.

The stupidity and ignorance inherent in her perspective is unfortunately quite common among the chattering classes that pretend to understand our political system. And yes, some of these fools are in the Senate and House. It is long past the time in American politics that we shed the leftist-supported nonsense that collaboration and "reaching across the aisle" is anything other than a recipe for capitulation and loss.

Our political system is now a "zero-sum game," and the sooner the craven cowards in the corporate wing of the Republican Party realize it, the better. But they won't, and they will continue to obstruct any movement toward a coherent political philosophy, instead of their acquisitive, amoral games.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 Good afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 12:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Nooded too many times.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 12:01 PM (NcvvS)

3 Morn' all

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:01 PM (+gK6I)

4 You know, when I was in the military during the infamous and pointless GWOT, we often heard, "They only have to be right once, and we have to be right every time," which as it turned out was originally attributed to the Provo IRA.

Now, with elections, we had to be right every single time, or any little opening would be exploited to the max. Every state that is lost to the Dems becomes a permanent outpost.

That's why people who are trying to convince me that there's still hope piss me off so much.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 08, 2026 12:04 PM (qwx/I)

5 Once the cement their power,they won't give it up easy.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 12:04 PM (Ia/+0)

6 hola chamucos y chamucas

Posted by: grass monkey at November 08, 2026 12:04 PM (eP4XR)

7 Que the Rush Limbaugh monologues about Great Moderates In History.
I miss Rush.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 12:05 PM (0o1lz)

8 Well said, CBD. Does she have any actual reporting experience, which would start her learning about the real world, or just J-school arrogance?

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 12:05 PM (NcvvS)

9 wrote: "Those who cannot remember gladiator movies are condemned to old greek homos."

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 08, 2026 12:05 PM (htQdD)

10 Winning is what matters in politics, except in the Senate GOP caucus.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 12:07 PM (j/Zm5)

11 John Thune may lose his bid to become Minority Leader, with any luck.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 12:09 PM (j/Zm5)

12 I'll say again: the wrong plane was downed on 9/11.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 12:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

13 But tje real Socialists did gain some important positions, and the weak Socialists will support them fully.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 12:12 PM (Ia/+0)

14 Hopefully the tiger will eat me last.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 12:13 PM (Cqx++)

15 When republicans win by 10 the govern like they won by 0.1.

When democrats win by 0.1 they govern like they won by 50.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:14 PM (qWvvZ)

16 So we the militia will have to take care of things outside the legal framework of the GOPe.

Ultimately the only laws restraining us are Newton's laws.

Posted by: Ken at November 08, 2026 12:15 PM (aVf49)

17 The GOPe has become the party of cutting of our noses to spite their own faces.


Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 12:16 PM (rbvCR)

18 15 When republicans win by 10 the govern like they won by 0.1.

When democrats win by 0.1 they govern like they won by 50.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:14 PM (qWvvZ)

Dems don't have to win to act like that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 12:17 PM (l3cgK)

19 First step to doing what needs to be done is accepting reality. Stop with the fraud stuff. Because if the answer is always “it was stolen” then nothing will ever change.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:17 PM (qWvvZ)

20 17 The GOPe has become the party of cutting of our noses to spite their own faces.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 12:16 PM (rbvCR)

Cutting off their own dicks is more like it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 12:17 PM (l3cgK)

21 Well said, CBD. Does she have any actual reporting experience, which would start her learning about the real world, or just J-school arrogance?
Posted by: Nazdar
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On a local scale, I often point out that the UNC School of Journalism (#4 in the nation) eliminated all prerequisites for history prior to 1865, and eliminated *all* Economics prerequisites.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 12:18 PM (XeU6L)

22 You insuferable twats have killed us all as I curse Thune.

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at November 08, 2026 12:20 PM (Q/FnY)

23 >>On a local scale, I often point out that the UNC School of Journalism (#4 in the nation) eliminated all prerequisites for history prior to 1865, and eliminated *all* Economics prerequisites.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 12:18 PM (XeU6L)

When Ben Rhodes said that journalists know nothing, he knew what he was talking about.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 12:22 PM (NcvvS)

24

A pro-Palestinian group's planned boycott of Jewish-owned restaurants in Philadelphia on Sunday, the eve of the anniversary of Kristallnacht, has sparked outrage among Jewish organizations and condemnation from several Democrat officials, raising fresh concerns about antisemitism within the broader anti-Israel protest movement.

The demonstration, organized by Philly Bike On Your Left, an activist cycling collective, targets six restaurants: Goldie, K'Far Café, Dizengoff, Huda, Mac Mart, and Schlesinger's Deli.

Promotional materials declare, "No business for Zionists!" and demand that the establishments leave the city.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 12:24 PM (Cqx++)

25 You can vote socialism in. You will never vote it out. Never ever. It might collapse when they run out of other peoples' money, then we become North Korea.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 12:26 PM (AKptf)

26 I saw an intensity this elections I don’t remember seeing before. Homes that would have a Vote Democrat sign or two had like 10 signs for every position down to town dog catcher. Houses with several signs for the same candidate. Which I thought was weird and a little over the top. But it showed how much frothing at the mouth there was to vote for these people. Multiple people door knocking on behalf of democrats and liberal ballot measures.

I live in a pretty red area where this doesn’t happen because the outcome is almost never in question. You could feel there was something in the air this time around.

And yet all I saw in right wing online media was don’t worry about it. The polls are wrong, the economy is fine, nobody really cares about Iran, we got this.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:26 PM (qWvvZ)

27 The Nazi party only got 33% of the vote in November, 1932 (4% less than in the prior election).

Two months later they seized power, and six months after that they had an absolute dictatorship.

We have at least a third of the electorate in the United States who would happily imprison or kill their political opponents if they were able to.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 08, 2026 12:26 PM (aD4fx)

28 A *26-yr old columnist*? LOL

Of course almost all columnists rarely are worth reading, but this is downright funny.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:26 PM (U/Byj)

29 Who is the governor of PA ? Oh, right. He should do something about the nazis in his state!

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 12:26 PM (AKptf)

30 A pro-Palestinian group's planned boycott of Jewish-owned restaurants in Philadelphia on Sunday, the eve of the anniversary of Kristallnacht, has sparked outrage among Jewish organizations and condemnation from several Democrat officials, raising fresh concerns about antisemitism within the broader anti-Israel protest movement.

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So outraged. Right after they voted for it.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:27 PM (qWvvZ)

31 But on the bright side, Dave Chappelle says he feels much better since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

Posted by: Infidel de Manahatta at November 08, 2026 12:27 PM (l2BnZ)

32 Promotional materials declare, "No business for Zionists!" and demand that the establishments leave the city.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 12:24 PM (Cqx++)
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They should just go for the original German -- Juden raus!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 08, 2026 12:27 PM (amcLV)

33 RIKKI SCHLOTT - Looked her up on LinkedIn. She’s a fellow of the Cato Institute… libertarian? Currently attending Columbia…majored in history at New York University. Brags about her high SAT score (99th percentile)… has all the look of a classic, annoying overachiever….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 12:27 PM (M+uMR)

34
(aVf49) sounds very glowy.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 08, 2026 12:28 PM (QVmho)

35 33 — Oh, she was also a production and research assistant on the Megyn Kelly show…. Sigh

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 12:30 PM (M+uMR)

36 Watching the Philadelphia thing live on Newsmax. Counter protesters outnumbering the freaks.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 12:31 PM (Cqx++)

37 It’s cute how people think Shapiro or Ossoff have a snowballs chance of being the Dem nominee in 2028. I wonder if the two of them are so insulated from the reality of their party that they believe it too.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:31 PM (qWvvZ)

38 33, 35 — And she’s 26 years old and lists 12 separate job positions under experience…. I don’t have that many after nearly 40 years of professional life… annoying

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (M+uMR)

39 34: yes, anyone who proposes fighting for our country before we weep for our country is obviously a federal agent. Let's hide under our desks like the kids at Columbine.

Posted by: Ken at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (aVf49)

40 Brags about her high SAT score (99th percentile)… has all the look of a classic, annoying overachiever….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 12:27 PM (M+uMR)


Sorry, but 99th percentile isn't much compared to before they watered down the test. And she went to a very liberal, woke prep school (I went to the same one before it turned to shit).

She is ignorant, and doesn't even know it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (k5CNB)

41 No one's ever gonna convince me that Texas is a blue State...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (+gK6I)

42 And yet all I saw in right wing online media was don’t worry about it. The polls are wrong, the economy is fine, nobody really cares about Iran, we got this.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez



Some of us voiced our concern about the lack of urgency in our side. We were told to sit down and shut up.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 08, 2026 12:33 PM (yEz+x)

43 And she’s 26 years old and lists 12 separate job positions under experience…. I don’t have that many after nearly 40 years of professional life… annoying
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (M+uMR)

Depends on who she was under.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 12:33 PM (1Ff7Z)

44 A 1995 economy producing a 1932 (or 1980) election result is really the question. A sub-topic that seems fairly clear is that one component was tribalistic and media-brainwashed backlash to immigration enforcement in some Hispanic demos (big part of the astounding TX outcome).

The Dems of course have nothing to offer on the economy, didn't even pretend to (electorate is so cretinized that brainless bumper sticker chants like "Affordability!" are sufficient), and thus will do nothing on that front. Meanwhile, barring black swans and the like, the currently improving economy will continue to do so and good chance it even gets to the boom/take-off stage it was in back in 2019, of course then squelched by The Great Idiocy.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:34 PM (U/Byj)

45 (aVf49) sounds very glowy.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 08, 2026 12:28 PM (QVmho)


Let's ease up on that easy accusation.

There are plenty of regulars who say the same thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 12:34 PM (k5CNB)

46 Spot on CBD.
The corporate GOPe wing went along to get along. They got their tax breaks and low interest loans , letting the Dems get stronger in blue states. Now the crazies are overrunning the Dems and the GOPe won't be getting their breaks once Trump is gone. Just like the Dems have gotten too old to fight the DSA types, the GOPe hasn't realized they're screwed unless they change

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 08, 2026 12:34 PM (7XuqV)

47 donna me either

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 12:35 PM (Ia/+0)

48 "That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse."

~ Mark Twain

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 12:35 PM (0o1lz)

49
No one's ever gonna convince me that Texas is a blue State...
Posted by: It's me donna


Tens of millions of illegal aliens can be pretty convincing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2026 12:35 PM (Cqx++)

50 My time machine has taken us back to July this year.

Please list the specific steps to be taken to reflect "urgency" about the election.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:35 PM (U/Byj)

51 She is ignorant, and doesn't even know it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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"Ignorance is organic to youth" -- WFB

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 12:36 PM (XeU6L)

52 41 No one's ever gonna convince me that Texas is a blue State...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (+gK6I)
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It will be as long as 20% of the GOP voters that bother to turn out decide that they Just Can't Even because Bad Orange Man and Ken Paxton hurt their fee fees and thus vote for dems, because that's a thing that will improve their lives.

Retards.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 12:36 PM (oqH4h)

53 Read an interesting stat today.

The percentage of people who are unemployed and have been unemployed for longer than 26 weeks is at a 10 year high (excluding 2020 for obvious reasons).

The average time to find a new job for those unemployed is 7 months also the highest number in over a decade.

Everyone saying this economy is grrrrreat, yeah not so much.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:37 PM (qWvvZ)

54 No one's ever gonna convince me that Texas is a blue State...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (+gK6I)


I remember Governor Ann Richards.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 12:38 PM (iIyc0)

55 I think the GOP numbers in TX for state-wide races were normal, similar to winning numbers from recent cycles.

In fact this is the national pattern. But in TX the Dem votes grew in unprecedented fashion. I think the ridiculous (disappearing) candidate Talarico banked enough votes to win *before election day*.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:38 PM (U/Byj)

56 The GOP isn't really all that interested in governing. Actually doing the work they're supposed to be doing after being elected to office. It's a money making opportunity... nothing else.

The Socialists, and the Democrats certainly make money... some off the books, some not. But they are very much interested in governing; looking out for their own interests. In this regard they're pretty ruthless, unlike the milquetoast GOP.

And in this regard, we are in the way. So's the GOP.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 12:39 PM (RORbl)

57 "That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse."

~ Mark Twain
Posted by: Quarter Twenty
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"If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast" -- Gen. W.T. Sherman

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 12:40 PM (XeU6L)

58 It's an easy thing to see, how it works. Go and listen to weak Western socialists talk amongst themselves. They are defitionally useful idiots.

They constantly try to square the circle: why is the Current Year thing I support so morally abhorrent? And they conjure up every kind of cloyingly sweet little intellectual confection you can think up, to help the political medicine down the moral hole.

But the actual answer is simple. And they all eventually arrive at it... it's morally correct when I do it, because I build socialism, but it's a monstrous crime when you do, because you destroy socialism.

The philosophy is an end and not a means to it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2026 12:40 PM (BI5O2)

59 Yes, there was a possibility that Texas could go blue someday, but Talarico ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:40 PM (+gK6I)

60 No one's ever gonna convince me that Texas is a blue State...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (+gK6I)

It may be perpetually blue now… or perhaps this year was an aberration. If it goes blue again in 28 it’s gone. I kinda hope the new governor goes so far left she wakes up everyone there and it rebounds back to solid red in 28. But who knows… 2 years in politics is an eternity

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 12:41 PM (M+uMR)

61 Recall Massachusetts had a Republican governor and Senator in the 2000s and 2010s, while Obama and Kerry won the state by 30+.

Weird shit happens in politics.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:41 PM (qWvvZ)

62 Look at California. That is the future for every state in the union. Unless there is no union.

I hear tell it's nice out there in California, however. Great weather and very beautiful scenery once you get out of the cities. Be nice to look at when they hold roll call in the camps.

Posted by: Gerrymandered Out Of Existence at November 08, 2026 12:41 PM (Ssbab)

63 And she went to a very liberal, woke prep school (I went to the same one before it turned to shit).

She is ignorant, and doesn't even know it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 12:32 PM (k5CNB)
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You will be gratified to hear there are still teachers there who hate the woke hard left turn the school took under Steve Murray, a weak-assed turd of a headmaster. His recently named replacement, for one, might be able to pull the school back from the brink.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 12:42 PM (I4gbT)

64 Not sure who everyone is, but the facts are that the economy in historical context is not bad at all. There are definitely structural issues as there have been for some time resulting in less employment gainzzz than was normal for a given level of growth. Unemployment rate just below recent historic average (which, oddly, is lower than the longer term average), participation rate almost at "normal" levels for recent history.

Many parts to the "economy" issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:42 PM (U/Byj)

65 To all boomers: Write your wills if you haven't already. The left will kill us first. We're the only ones left that have experienced Constitutional freedom. It's the only way to shut us up about it.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 08, 2026 12:43 PM (g8Ew8)

66 there was a possibility that Texas could go blue someday, but Talarico ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:40 PM (+gK6I)

The proverbial ham sandwich that can get indicted by a grand jury would have won this year. That’s what a wave election is like. Doesn’t matter who it is, as long as there’s a D next to the name they’re winning.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:43 PM (qWvvZ)

67 That awful power, the public opinion of gladiator movies, is created in America by a horde of old greek homos.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 08, 2026 12:44 PM (htQdD)

68 As a recovering libertarian, I can tell you that no one is more boring or more impotent than libertarians.

There's a reason for this. Libertarians are against any government action in theory but lack the testosterone to actually fight the battles. So they will gush about deregulation of coffee while the very committed left is trying to gut the Second Amendment. Then when illegal alien goon squads go door to door confiscating firearms and raping women and children, the libertarians will say, hey, we lost our guns but we have more brands of coffee than ever! So it's a tie.

What we really need is to make things painful to the left. Go after their comfort zones so they're too busy fighting for their lives to do anything to us. The boycott of Jennifer Welch's sponsors is a step in the right direction, although I would prefer to make her a literal martyr for the left than a figurative one. Hopefully the appointment of Stephen Miller is also a step in the right direction.

Posted by: Ken at November 08, 2026 12:44 PM (aVf49)

69 Here is what emerging, many Ds who ran in red states, ran on the populist platform of Donald J. Trump! Funny that. The chick who ran in S.C. is all for secure border. And then when people looked at what their Senator or Congressman did for them...they either sat home, or ran in the other direction. When wages cannot keep up with inflation, it's a bad sign. Look, what sank GOP is what always sinks it - crony fkng capitalism. Those bastards just cannot help themselves.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 12:44 PM (AKptf)

70 I saw an intensity this elections I don’t remember seeing before. Homes that would have a Vote Democrat sign or two had like 10 signs for every position down to town dog catcher. Houses with several signs for the same candidate. Which I thought was weird and a little over the top.
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Satan's children are deeply dedicated to evil.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 08, 2026 12:45 PM (vSvIl)

71 Right now, there are not enough red States to win a Presidential election which means an AOC, Buttegege , or worse....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:46 PM (+gK6I)

72 The chick who ran in S.C. is all for secure border.
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Lol!! Just like John McCain wanted to build the fence.

Voters are gullible retards.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:46 PM (qWvvZ)

73 53





U.S. Job Postings Reach New Highs
U.S. job openings hit a record‑high 7.5 million in September 2026, the largest since May, according to the Labor Department’s JOLTS data
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Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 08, 2026 12:48 PM (P4Pk9)

74 71 Right now, there are not enough red States to win a Presidential election which means an AOC, Buttegege , or worse....
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:46 PM (+gK6I)

But in 2028 ....

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 12:48 PM (odBC9)

75 I've been alive many moons and this is the worst election I've seen... Even worse than 2020

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:48 PM (+gK6I)

76 Right now, there are not enough red States to win a Presidential election which means an AOC, Buttegege , or worse....
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:46 PM (+gK6I)
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The carnage at the state level was the most shocking result of this election.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 12:48 PM (I4gbT)

77 Some are saying Texas suffered from "latent" immigration. Meaning there were millions of Hispanics there that turned 18 within the last two years and thus were able to vote. Same for most of the other states that flipped.

One might argue that this was The Plan™ all along... playing a multi-generational long game with immigration to get where we are today.

Not sure I totally buy it... I still lean towards fraud.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 12:49 PM (RORbl)

78 It will be as long as 20% of the GOP voters that bother to turn out decide that they Just Can't Even because Bad Orange Man and Ken Paxton hurt their fee fees and thus vote for dems, because that's a thing that will improve their lives.

Retards.
Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 12:36 PM (oqH4h)

They're both gone now. So, is there anyone else on the Texas horizon to win? If free money floods in, will the Rs be able to take Texas back?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 12:50 PM (1Ff7Z)

79 It's a one-way membrane on wave elections. In 2010, one of the biggest/deepest waves in our history, CA saw exactly IIRC zero incumbents replaced. Zero. It was as though nothing happened. I'd bet it was the same for MA, NY, VT, IL, OR, HI, etc. Or at least close - maybe the odd result here and there where an R unseated a D.

In this "wave", you have TX, KS, MS (!!!), possibly AK joining the trend. Amazing. There are almost no true "red" states. There are definitely several true "blue" states.

And the electoral map with GA as more blue than purple, and TX a battleground? Yikes.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:50 PM (U/Byj)

80 12 I'll say again: the wrong plane was downed on 9/11.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 12:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

wut

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 12:50 PM (odBC9)

81 Doesn’t matter who it is, as long as there’s a D next to the name they’re winning.

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I don't buy that theory. TX case is fascinating. I listened to that Gina-elect interview. I could understand why she won. She said that the left/right paradigm is no longer valid, and that her election does not mean that TX is all of a sudden a blues state. That she ran on kitchen table issues, like economy, affordability, fairness etc. She said she is not agains AI or data centers, but wants the communities involved and get something out of it. She is a great retail politician, she comes from a political family. Abbott decided not to debate her, right? He should have.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 12:51 PM (AKptf)

82 Thank you, CBD, for putting out the fire in my hair. I can handle this so long as I understand the reality.

Posted by: creeper at November 08, 2026 12:51 PM (lWAes)

83 GatewayPundit has been having interesting articles. And things are as fishy as when all the poll workers got tired in 2020 when Trump was leading at the time in their states without calling the races.

President Trump apparently posted something on social media. We'll see. I'm all out of hopium.

But there's also this before I get back to mowing the leaves.

Stephen Colbert was forced to evacuate a Harvard University event Thursday evening after a fire alarm interrupted his appearance amid noisy demonstrations by striking graduate student workers.

The former Late Show host and Democratic Party propagandist, who had his show canceled by CBS in May, was appearing alongside celebrated cellist Yo-Yo Ma at Sanders Theatre for a discussion titled “Arts for Life’s Sake.”

The event was intended as a celebration of the 50th anniversary of Harvard’s Learning from Performers program.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 08, 2026 12:52 PM (Sco7b)

84 On top of that, she made fun of the woke nuttiness too. "My name is Gina, and my pronouns are mother/governor". Smart. She could be great big liar. But if you do not contrast yourself with some better stuff...

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 12:53 PM (AKptf)

85 RIKKI SCHLOTT - Looked her up on LinkedIn. She’s a fellow of the Cato Institute… libertarian? Currently attending Columbia…majored in history at New York University. Brags about her high SAT score (99th percentile)… has all the look of a classic, annoying overachiever….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 12:27 PM (M+uMR)

"This little girl survived longer than us with no weapons and no training"

"Why don't you put her in charge?"

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 08, 2026 12:53 PM (08OqX)

86 When I was 26 I also thought I knew what I was talking about. Yeah, no

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 12:55 PM (RIvkX)

87 Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 12:50 PM (odBC9)

Think about it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 12:55 PM (1Ff7Z)

88 Something for you to think about:

Every Democrat supports assassination of all Republican officeholders. Every Democrat supported raping Sarah Palin for not aborting her baby. Every Democrat supported bribing Bristol Palin to abort her own baby, and every Democrat supported the beating they gave her for not aborting. Every Democrat supported Kathy Griffin spreading her legs for Levi Johnston as a reward for him not paying child support. Every Democrat supported Lindsay Clancy murdering her three children.

Do you think they intend to let YOU off the hook? Your Democrat neighbors are already making plans to rape and murder you and your own children.

Do you love your children more than you love a peaceful neighborhood? Yes? Then find out who the Democrats are in your area and prepare a local plan for the boogaloo.

Posted by: Ken at November 08, 2026 12:55 PM (aVf49)

89 84 On top of that, she made fun of the woke nuttiness too. "My name is Gina, and my pronouns are mother/governor". Smart. She could be great big liar. But if you do not contrast yourself with some better stuff...
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 12:53 PM (AKptf


She'll fall in line with the D's

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:55 PM (+gK6I)

90 one-way membrane on wave elections. In 2010, one of the biggest/deepest waves in our history, CA saw exactly IIRC zero incumbents replaced. Zero. It was as though nothing happened. I'd bet it was the same for MA, NY, VT, IL, OR, HI, etc. Or at least close - maybe the odd result here and there where an R unseated a D.

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You’d lose that bet.

In MA, Scott Brown was elected. In IL, Mark Mirk was elected. Wisconsin and Michigan had Republican sweeps for governor and state legislatures.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 12:56 PM (qWvvZ)

91 You will be gratified to hear there are still teachers there who hate the woke hard left turn the school took under Steve Murray, a weak-assed turd of a headmaster. His recently named replacement, for one, might be able to pull the school back from the brink.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 12:42 PM (I4gbT)


Murray is indeed a rancid, leftist, piece of shit. But the drift began before him! Take a look at the "Leadership" page for a glimpse of Lawrenceville's future.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2026 12:57 PM (k5CNB)

92 Agree with runner about TX gov race. Not simply a mindless "vote for anything with D after the name". Very likely a big dose of tribalism too. Tom Servo here had a very suggestive anecdote about solid business types who are Hispanic both joining in the idiotic hysteria about ICE enforcement AND swooning for Hinojosa.

Talarico's a different case. And the mindless vote for anything D is clearly the case in much of the country. "Candidate quality" is a hilarious concept, this cycle might have had the largest number of ridiculous D candidates in recent history. All won, easily.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:58 PM (U/Byj)

93 Where my $5000 at?

Posted by: La'Shondra at November 08, 2026 12:58 PM (0o1lz)

94 In MA, Scott Brown was elected. In IL, Mark Mirk was elected.
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And what did either of them accomplish?

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 08, 2026 12:59 PM (vSvIl)

95 In MA, Scott Brown was elected. In IL, Mark Mirk was elected.

Mark Kirk?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 01:01 PM (iIyc0)

96 80 12 I'll say again: the wrong plane was downed on 9/11.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 12:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

wut
Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 12:50 PM (odBC9)

87 Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 12:50 PM (odBC9)

Think about it.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 12:55 PM (1Ff7Z)

I did think about it. I don't know what you meant. Hence my question.

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 01:01 PM (odBC9)

97 I've been alive many moons and this is the worst election I've seen... Even worse than 2020
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:48 PM (+gK6I)

For me, the worst was 2012 when Barkorama was re-elected. That's when I knew this country was slowly but surely declining.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 08, 2026 01:02 PM (g8Ew8)

98 I would have thought the nominal right had it figured out by now. You have to keep the worthless shits in the GOP in office, even though they're... you know, worthless.

If we don't do this, we end up with a rabid left hell bent on killing us all.

I tend to believe this is an end state the left toys with. I think the problem is that not everyone on this nominal right believes it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 01:03 PM (RORbl)

99 Yes Mark Kirk. A Republican was elected to the senate in 2010 from Illinois. The same state that elected Obama by 25 points 2 years earlier.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 08, 2026 01:03 PM (qWvvZ)

100
The one that was downed was probably headed towards congress or the white house

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 08, 2026 01:03 PM (IpNNL)

101 I've been alive many moons and this is the worst election I've seen... Even worse than 2020
Posted by: It's me donna
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Keisha Lance Bottoms elected Governor of Georgia. Her advisor? Stacey Abrams.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 01:04 PM (XeU6L)

102 The percentage of people who are unemployed and have been unemployed for longer than 26 weeks is at a 10 year high (excluding 2020 for obvious reasons).

The average time to find a new job for those unemployed is 7 months also the highest number in over a decade.
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Believable without citation.

Rhomboid, to your point, ^this^ is the economy that matters most.

"A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose your job."

The reason companies are slow in hiring is uncertainty regarding coming over-regulation.

That said, I also personally know of plenty of vacancies in professionally-paid positions.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 01:04 PM (RIvkX)

103 97 I've been alive many moons and this is the worst election I've seen... Even worse than 2020
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 12:48 PM (+gK6I)

For me, the worst was 2012 when Barkorama was re-elected. That's when I knew this country was slowly but surely declining.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 08, 2026 01:02 PM (g8Ew

The worst you've seen SO FAR...

https://youtu.be/bfpPArfDTGw

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:04 PM (l3cgK)

104 100 The one that was downed was probably headed towards congress or the white house
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 08, 2026 01:03 PM (IpNNL)

Ah. Thank you.

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 01:04 PM (odBC9)

105 Well stated, CBD.

Posted by: scampydog at November 08, 2026 01:04 PM (LVaYG)

106 Any analysis of the election without looking at some of the structural changes is incomplete.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:06 PM (viF8m)

107 Agree with runner about TX gov race. Not simply a mindless "vote for anything with D after the name". Very likely a big dose of tribalism too. Tom Servo here had a very suggestive anecdote about solid business types who are Hispanic both joining in the idiotic hysteria about ICE enforcement AND swooning for Hinojosa.

Talarico's a different case. And the mindless vote for anything D is clearly the case in much of the country. "Candidate quality" is a hilarious concept, this cycle might have had the largest number of ridiculous D candidates in recent history. All won, easily.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:58 PM (U/Byj)

I retired a few years ago from the largest Hispanic television/media company in the world. The Hispanic employees will vote for anyone with a D in front of their name. An acquaintance who still works freelance for them sent me a copy of the ad buys for this election. No time was purchased by Republicans running in the area. But the Dems were buying 10's of thousands of dollars of ad time. This was true on the anglo stations as well. The ads, of course, were anti Trump (he's taking your rights away!!), ICE (especially) and the bad economy.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 08, 2026 01:06 PM (hmYU4)

108 Talarico's a different case. And the mindless vote for anything D is clearly the case in much of the country. "Candidate quality" is a hilarious concept, this cycle might have had the largest number of ridiculous D candidates in recent history. All won, easily.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:58 PM (U/Byj)

I still say vote fraud was rampant in TX. BUT, once again the repubs have their blinders full on and shitting all over themselves.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 08, 2026 01:07 PM (g8Ew8)

109 Sandy, nah, as I said, "the odd result here and there where an R unseated a D."

Brown was an interesting one-off outlier, and short-lived. Mark squeaked in with under 50% against a D in the race to replace Obama. I should have specified "at a presidential or national level" with my "no true red states" comment. Several "blue" states have had governors or legislatures that remained changing or balanced as the national map solidified into its recent look.

I can't imagine a "wave" election where a MA D senator is unseated, ditto for OR WA CA NM VT MA HI NY IL on and on. But the equivalent just happened in TX, MX, KS.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:08 PM (U/Byj)

110 Or, to put it more crudely: Irgendwann wird alles scheiße …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:08 PM (ayRl+)

111 92 Talarico's a different case. And the mindless vote for anything D
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 12:58 PM (U/Byj)

kinky

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 01:08 PM (odBC9)

112 So Sotomayor wants SCOTUS to overturn their ruling on Presidential Immunity.... Interesting

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 01:09 PM (+gK6I)

113 High schools generally are dominated by crazy people, dedicated lefties with entitled self-important morally superior perspectives.

I sometimes think America is too rich and safe for it's own good, which means we might be cruising for a real bruising of a takedown. Only a set of difficult times can be strong enough to take down the feminized "empathetic" left that governs our culture.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:09 PM (Zypo6)

114 @ 113 … I sometimes think America is too rich and safe for it's own good, which means we might be cruising for a real bruising of a takedown. Only a set of difficult times can be strong enough to take down the feminized "empathetic" left that governs our culture. Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:09 PM (Zypo6)
________________________

History teaches us that the lifespan of most 'empires' is around 250 years. We're reaching that 'Best When Used By:" date …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:11 PM (ayRl+)

115 It is nearly impossible for anyone right of center-left to get elected in Kalifornia. The fraud is baked into the cake here. Even if you win with a majority of valid ballots, the invalid ballots will swamp you away, and cheating is totes easy for the left. Laws make voter fraud easy to commit, and a lack of enforcement of voter fraud laws means you won't go to jail for helping the dems win, with dems in all the top executive posts in the state.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (l3cgK)

116 >>I still say vote fraud was rampant in TX. BUT, once again the repubs have their blinders full on and shitting all over themselves.

Fraud and organizing. Look at the numbers of new voters, not just in Texas but across the country. Look at the early voting numbers.

it wasn't all voting machines. There was probably some of that but that wasn't the real difference in my opinion.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (viF8m)

117 So Sotomayor wants SCOTUS to overturn their ruling on Presidential Immunity.... Interesting
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 01:09 PM (+gK6I)
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Same sort of dispute that provoked Caesar at the end of the Roman Republic. Sotomayor is playing with fire.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (Zypo6)

118 > So Sotomayor wants SCOTUS to overturn their ruling on Presidential Immunity.... Interesting
Posted by: It's me donna
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I think the left's got a major hard-on to met out some punitive punishment. It won't end with the Trump administration if they're successful.

It'll end with us.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (RORbl)

119 Any real resistance will have to be spontaneous. Anything planned will be immediately infiltrated and people imprisoned. Unfortunately, spontaneous can't be defined or predicted, by it's very nature. It's going to be the switch being turned on.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 08, 2026 01:14 PM (wqjPC)

120 Same sort of dispute that provoked Caesar at the end of the Roman Republic. Sotomayor is playing with fire.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (Zypo6)

... does that make Canada Gaul?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 01:14 PM (aKiSo)

121 Only a set of difficult times can be strong enough to take down the feminized "empathetic" left that governs our culture.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:09 PM (Zypo6)

It's not just feminized. It's vicious feminism.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 08, 2026 01:14 PM (g8Ew8)

122 This is not going to end well.

השם ירחם

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 01:14 PM (D0X9e)

123 The one that was downed was probably headed towards congress or the white house
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 08, 2026 01:03 PM (IpNNL)

Yeah, you got it. How would things had changed if the Pentagon flight failed and the Congress flight had succeeded? I think things would have been a lot different now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 01:15 PM (1Ff7Z)

124 @ 118 > So Sotomayor wants SCOTUS to overturn their ruling on Presidential Immunity.... Interesting - Posted by: It's me donna
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I think the left's got a major hard-on to met out some punitive punishment. It won't end with the Trump administration if they're successful. It'll end with us. Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (RORbl)

_______________________________

It will be the 'Neue Kristallnacht' on the big screen - and (to reference an old TV show) "In Living Color" … just sayin' …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:15 PM (ayRl+)

125 I sometimes think America is too rich and safe for it's own good
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Complacent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 01:15 PM (XeU6L)

126 I think the left's got a major hard-on to met out some punitive punishment. It won't end with the Trump administration if they're successful.

It'll end with us.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (RORbl)



And the fucking fuckers keep harping that it's Trump that doing the retribution. Of course not a single swinging dick has gone to prison. Not a one.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 08, 2026 01:16 PM (wqjPC)

127 ... does that make Canada Gaul?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 01:14 PM (aKiSo)
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Troops massing at the Peace Bridge!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:16 PM (Zypo6)

128 118 > So Sotomayor wants SCOTUS to overturn their ruling on Presidential Immunity.... Interesting
Posted by: It's me donna
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I think the left's got a major hard-on to met out some punitive punishment. It won't end with the Trump administration if they're successful.

It'll end with us.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 01:12 PM (RORbl)

The left smells blood in the water after this election, and they'll be damned if they don't take full advantage of it this time.
They've been breaking eggs for omelettes for quite some time now, and quite a few repubs are down wit it. They'd sell out their own mothers for extra goodies.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:16 PM (l3cgK)

129 Then again, Rubio might win going away in 28. Think about it… who will be the Dem nominee: Newsom, Kamala, AOC, Buttgig…. All unattractive stupid whackos. It’s not out of the realm of possibility by any means…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:17 PM (M+uMR)

130 129 Then again, Rubio might win going away in 28. Think about it… who will be the Dem nominee: Newsom, Kamala, AOC, Buttgig…. All unattractive stupid whackos. It’s not out of the realm of possibility by any means…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:17 PM (M+uMR)

If the cheat is big enough, you'll get another Joey Biden...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:18 PM (l3cgK)

131 >>It is nearly impossible for anyone right of center-left to get elected in Kalifornia

Take a look at the results for the top state wide races in California. Governor, Lt Governor, Treasurer, AG, etc.. They are all almost identical numbers.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:18 PM (viF8m)

132 All unattractive stupid whackos
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Kind of like all the unattractive stupid crazy ....election victors from last week.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:19 PM (Zypo6)

133 .. does that make Canada Gaul?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 01:14 PM (aKiSo)

Canadians can be pretty gauling at times all right.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 01:19 PM (1Ff7Z)

134 Right now we're screwed.... Gotta find a way to turn this around...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 01:19 PM (+gK6I)

135 131 >>It is nearly impossible for anyone right of center-left to get elected in Kalifornia

Take a look at the results for the top state wide races in California. Governor, Lt Governor, Treasurer, AG, etc.. They are all almost identical numbers.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:18 PM (viF8m)

Yup. All Dems. Some races, Dem vs Dem (or Dem vs Socialist, BIRM).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:19 PM (l3cgK)

136 Take a look at the results for the top state wide races in California. Governor, Lt Governor, Treasurer, AG, etc.. They are all almost identical numbers.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:18 PM (viF8m)


That's because their election counting apparatus mirrors Stalin's dictum.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 08, 2026 01:20 PM (wqjPC)

137 134 Right now we're screwed.... Gotta find a way to turn this around...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 01:19 PM (+gK6I)

Some things can be unscrewed, some things cannot.
Pregnancy, in general, for example, cannot be unscrewed...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:20 PM (l3cgK)

138 71 Right now, there are not enough red States to win a Presidential election which means an AOC, Buttegege , or worse....

Posted by: It's me donna
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There are no red states,
There are no blue states.
There's only me and thee
and I will set you free.

_Xi the Colorful Revolutionary

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:20 PM (wljQY)

139 The State of the Union speech is gonna be lit this year

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 01:21 PM (+gK6I)

140 @ 134 Right now we're screwed.... Gotta find a way to turn this around... Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2026 01:19 PM (+gK6I)
__________________

The psychodynamics of today's political realities say that just ain't gonna be a 'Happenin' Thang' …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:22 PM (ayRl+)

141 Trump is a battler, and Stephen Miller is going to bring the energy. The next two years will be telling, because we still need to find a way to win not just in DC but in state capitals.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 01:22 PM (Zypo6)

142 Didja see this?

Breaking911
@Breaking911
DAVE CHAPPELLE: “Ever since that guy Charlie Kirk got murdered, and I shouldn’t say this publicly but…. I feel better.”

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Or this?

livestreamclips
@Livestreamclipx
Indian steamer Jeetgod says Indians are taking over, stealing white women and jobs from white men.

“We’re invading your country, stealing your b*tches and taking your jobs too.”

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Or this?

Michigan Democratic Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed described his home state as “the capital of Arab America” during a speech in Washington, D.C.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:23 PM (ndZc7)

143 I've said throughout this term that our only real hope was for Trump to finally, wholly appreciate the magnitude of the threat, having endured impeachment, arrest, and assassination.

But no.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 01:23 PM (RIvkX)

144 SMoD don't fail us now.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at November 08, 2026 01:23 PM (ZVw6f)

145 There are no red states,
There are no blue states.
There's only me and thee
and I will set you free.

_Xi the Colorful Revolutionary

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:20 PM (wljQY)

There’s only you and me and we both disagree — Dave Mason

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:23 PM (M+uMR)

146 If evidence of malfeasance surfaces and points to one or more of the multi-billionaires dicking around with our election(s) the administration had best put those fuckers on ice.

I mean, if we could snatch Maduro out of a fortified bunker those assholes should be easy pickings.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 01:24 PM (RORbl)

147 Look, majority of the Ds who won in R areas, did not run like your typical Ds. Majority ran on affordability, rising cost of insurance, housing, and...corruption. Local corruption, and corruption in DC. People noted that the R Senate that they voted in, has done precious nothing with Trump's agenda! Trump ran like a populist, and these Ds ran like populists. Smart of them.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 01:24 PM (AKptf)

148 Who's up for a little bit o' the old 'Open Warfare' with the illegals and the Muzzificators … ? Bueller … ? Bueller … ? Let's take the fuckin' gloves off and quit doin' the old 'dosie-doh', 'kay …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:24 PM (ayRl+)

149 I put a lot of it to RINOs, they dragged their feet to do what they should have been doing.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 01:24 PM (Ia/+0)

150 More 1WP, dragged first pile of leaves out to the back, dozens more to go

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 01:25 PM (Ia/+0)

151 The left spent a great deal of time and money registering voters, many without proof of citizenship, over the last few years. They changed the electorate.

It wasn't an accident that Democrats had a presidential year turnout. Republican turnout was up by a million so claiming there was mass defection wasn't the case. They had more voters than in 2024. A lot more.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:25 PM (viF8m)

152 Franpsycho what should Trump do/have done in line with your observation?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:26 PM (U/Byj)

153 I personally don’t believe there was any significant fraud or cheating in this election… not in Texas anyway. Just a bunch of brain dead voters added to the already hate filled and TDS suffering brain dead Dems…

Gooder and harderer…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:26 PM (M+uMR)

154 There is a reason why Trump said he thinks he can work with them and get some things done. He knows. And just to make sure that they don't get a funny idea like "amnesty" , he made Miller his chief of staff. The man who killed amnesty when he was a Congressional aid. That made many sad. LOL. too bad.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 01:27 PM (AKptf)

155 >>>I mean, if we could snatch Maduro out of a fortified bunker those assholes should be easy pickings.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Trump is a strict adherent to the law.
If the law is no more what is his guideline?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:28 PM (wljQY)

156 @ 153 I personally don’t believe there was any significant fraud or cheating in this election… not in Texas anyway. Just a bunch of brain dead voters added to the already hate filled and TDS suffering brain dead Dems… Gooder and harderer…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:26 PM (M+uMR)

________________

My brother (SW of Dallas) would seriously disagree with that …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:28 PM (ayRl+)

157 Trump is a strict adherent to the law.
If the law is no more what is his guideline?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:28 PM (wljQY)

The law is for he, you, and me. Not for them. It's barely even a suggestion.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 01:29 PM (1Ff7Z)

158 And in some positive news:. Cyclists protesting Jewish owned stores in Philadelphia drowned out by a much larger counter protesting crowd. New York Post:

https://tinyurl.com/3pp693md

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2026 01:29 PM (JrHfD)

159 I don't see the problem here.

Posted by: Rino Squish at November 08, 2026 01:29 PM (Mx+TJ)

160 Visual metaphor for the DSA in the last election.

https://tinyurl.com/3kpfucff

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:29 PM (ndZc7)

161 I personally don’t believe there was any significant fraud or cheating in this election… not in Texas anyway. Just a bunch of brain dead voters added to the already hate filled and TDS suffering brain dead Dems…
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...gobbling up the spoon-fed MSM bias.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 01:29 PM (XeU6L)

162 "Missing" memory card that would have put Georgia House seat in Republican favor found.

https://tinyurl.com/4t2h4fzd

Goes to Newsweek article

Posted by: Halfhand at November 08, 2026 01:30 PM (94Zfv)

163 As soon as the Socialists do take over the borders will be wide open again.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 01:30 PM (Ia/+0)

164 49
No one's ever gonna convince me that Texas is a blue State...
Posted by: It's me donna

Tens of millions of illegal aliens can be pretty convincing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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OK, say that's so. Texas enforces voter ID law, one must present a valid Driver License.
Where did these millions of illegals get their license?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:30 PM (wljQY)

165 129 Then again, Rubio might win going away in 28. Think about it… who will be the Dem nominee: Newsom, Kamala, AOC, Buttgig…. All unattractive stupid whackos. It’s not out of the realm of possibility by any means…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:17 PM (M+uMR)

The resolution to the Iran war is going to flavor the stew strongly. From all the anecdotal shit I've seen, the perception of the Iran dealio as another forever war was really damaging. YMMV. It's Israel, it's the Neocons, but somehow never it's the Iranians.

In this whole thing show me one media source anywhere that says this situation was instigated by the Iranians and we must see it through. That was the only winning message and it was just absent.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 08, 2026 01:31 PM (r7+Q7)

166 Democrats mirrored what Trump did in 2024. They registered voters and they moved to the populist agenda. "I will fight for you" ? Democrats 2026. That was Trump 2024.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 01:31 PM (AKptf)

167 Bible Study Corner.

Lutheran pastor says Joseph's colored coat was a "pretty princess dress" and that he "suffers violence for being queer"

The Dissenter
@disntr
ELCA "pastor" Adrianne Meier says Jacob gave his son (Joseph) a "pretty princess dress."

“What if this is the story of a boy in a princess dress who suffers violence at the hands of those who hate them for being queer? … ‘What can a queer kid teach us about God?’

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (ndZc7)

168 Survey data in TX suggests a big shift toward Ds among Hispanics, many 2024 Trump voters, primarily around ICE/immigration enforcement (yeah don't try to square that circle too hard). The Rio Grande Valley district results are consistent with this.

Ds registered massive numbers of new voters since 2024 in TX. There was a pathetic and disastrous yet almost predictable shift in Hispanic Trump voters. The R candidates got their "normal" vote numbers. Some may need to add fraud to that equation to get the results, I don't.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (U/Byj)

169 Look at this list. Since we are talking about Texas look at the number new voters in Texas between 2022 and 2024. The population of Texas grew by a little over a million so blaming the growth and CA people fleeing doesn't work.

Also note that Texas did not require proof of citizenship over that period. They passed a law in 2025 to require it. It takes effect in 2027.

https://tinyurl.com/2p37ur96

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:33 PM (viF8m)

170 > Trump is a strict adherent to the law.
If the law is no more what is his guideline?
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Well.... looking back at the judiciary's clown show with all things illegal immigration related, passing the buck on obviously black and white criminal cases that had leftists involved, and so on....

.... I'd say the law is already "no more."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 01:34 PM (RORbl)

171 Just starting to watch Guernica, opening credits warning about the Fascists, so assuming we are seeing the Communists side.
The Communists whould have done what Communists do if they won.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 01:34 PM (Ia/+0)

172 >>I remember Governor Ann Richards.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
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I remember April

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7M__5Mr7Dg



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:35 PM (wljQY)

173 @ 168 Survey data in TX suggests a big shift toward Ds among Hispanics, many 2024 Trump voters, primarily around ICE/immigration enforcement (yeah don't try to square that circle too hard). The Rio Grande Valley district results are consistent with this.
Ds registered massive numbers of new voters since 2024 in TX. There was a pathetic and disastrous yet almost predictable shift in Hispanic Trump voters. The R candidates got their "normal" vote numbers. Some may need to add fraud to that equation to get the results, I don't.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (U/Byj)

_______________________

The 'republicans' (lower-case intentional) are (a) too fucking lazy and (b) too fucking trusting of the (ahem) 'rule of law' to solve their complacency problems. The Communists … aren't. Ask former Tsar Nicholas et Famille …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:36 PM (ayRl+)

174 Many factors of why the election was lost. Yes, I believe the cheat was on, it always is to a degree. Iran, flaccid RINOs, no ground game, messaging, etc.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 01:36 PM (SN8r1)

175 Trump's "populism" was mostly just common sense, and widely supported: border, immigration enforcement, economic growth, unleash energy. And he has vigorously pursued what he promised to do and has accomplished a lot of it.

D's "populism" is empty bumper-sticker nonsense, with the cherry on top being that their long-standing policy idiocy precisely and in every case goes against the (often naive) goals of their dim voters. "Affordability" is directly undermined by every single major D economic policy.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:37 PM (U/Byj)

176 Trump is a strict adherent to the law.
If the law is no more what is his guideline?
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The United States of America are not defined by the Constitution, it is just a means to an end.

Nor is it the accumulated laws, or even elections.

The sole legitimate purpose of the nation is laid out in our Declaration of Independence, the mutual defense of the God-given Rights of American men. And in the absence of any other guides, only its ideas matter. And anyone who doesn't support those ideas need not be here.

We dedicated the nation's fate to Divine Providence and we heap scorn on His reputation when we allow it to be used for other purposes.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 08, 2026 01:39 PM (vSvIl)

177 Okay … 'nuff talk. Everybody get up and we'll all meet down at Third Street and Main (where the pallets of bricks are) for this afternoon's 'Two Minute Hate', 'kay. Wear something stylish in black, and be sure to wear that useless 'Covid' mask …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:40 PM (ayRl+)

178 Franpsycho what should Trump do/have done in line with your observation?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:26 PM (U/Byj)
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I think Wm. Shakespeare had the right idea. So did Gen. Pinochet. So did Gen. Suharto.

The problem is there is no other more effective solution to Marxism. This has been proven time and again by history.

These people tell us their plans and our response is disbelief, denial, minimization, and too often, collusion.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 01:41 PM (RIvkX)

179
Then again, Rubio might win going away in 28. Think about it… who will be the Dem nominee: Newsom, Kamala, AOC, Buttgig…. All unattractive stupid whackos. It’s not out of the realm of possibility by any means…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

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That's what I've been thinking. I'd even take away everything you wrote after the first sentence; God only knows what will matter in 2028. Rubio could win walking away. That's it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 01:41 PM (XJ22o)

180 Lutheran pastor... ELCA "pastor" Adrianne Meier says Jacob gave his son (Joseph) a "pretty princess dress."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (ndZc7)

Lutheran pastor and ELCA do not belong in the same sentence.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 01:42 PM (1Ff7Z)

181 142 Didja see this?

Breaking911
@Breaking911
DAVE CHAPPELLE: “Ever since that guy Charlie Kirk got murdered, and I shouldn’t say this publicly but…. I feel better.”
...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:23 PM (ndZc7)

What would be Chappelle's reaction to someone saying, "After Malcolm X was assassinated, I felt much better."?

After all, M X was involved in the founding of the "Nation of Islam" in the US, and even stated he was a communist. I guess Islam and Communism have been cooperating for longer than most thought.




Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:42 PM (l3cgK)

182 Sweet Jesus,
Texas, acceptable, ALTERNATIVE voter ID:
Per DDG Search Assist -

If voters did not possess an acceptable photo ID, they could still cast a ballot by presenting a supporting document and signing a Reasonable Impediment Declaration. Supporting documents could include:

A government document showing the voter's name and address
A current utility bill
A bank statement
A government check
A paycheck

This means that while a valid Texas driver license was one option, it was not mandatory for all voters to have one in order to participate in the election.
National Conference of State Legislatures - Ballotpedia

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:43 PM (wljQY)

183 I've marveled at how a completely normal and uncontroversial idea like having a border for the country (as all countries on Earth do, if they can manage it) is now "populist".

Perhaps the use of concrete in construction, three outs to an inning, treating bacterial infections with anti-biotics, assuming that water will run downhill in civic engineering projects, chlorinating city water supplies, and having runways aligned with prevailing winds are also "populist" ideas? That's how idiotic this is.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:44 PM (U/Byj)

184 @ 179 Then again, Rubio might win going away in 28. Think about it… who will be the Dem nominee: Newsom, Kamala, AOC, Buttgig…. All unattractive stupid whackos. It’s not out of the realm of possibility by any means… Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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That's what I've been thinking. I'd even take away everything you wrote after the first sentence; God only knows what will matter in 2028. Rubio could win walking away. That's it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 01:41 PM (XJ22o)

__________________________

Let's hope there's still something to vote FOR on the ballot then. Two years is an eternity in politics …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:44 PM (ayRl+)

185 All unattractive stupid whackos

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The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Social media users have been debating over the hyper-feminine, hyper-stylized faces that Americans are now used to seeing from women of MAGA world.

Many have theorized about the sociopolitical underpinnings of the cosmetic enhancements.

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Ugly is the new beautiful.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:44 PM (ndZc7)

186 >>This means that while a valid Texas driver license was one option, it was not mandatory for all voters to have one in order to participate in the election.
National Conference of State Legislatures - Ballotpedia

See?

Democrat states fought Trump's DOJ over turning over their voter rolls since day 1 of his 2nd term. This is a big reason why.

The NGOs didn't go away when USAID did. They are still there and very well funded.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:45 PM (viF8m)

187 I would laugh really hard if this new D majority Congress, kills obamacare to lower medical costs.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2026 01:45 PM (AKptf)

188 ====

I think Wm. Shakespeare had the right idea. So did Gen. Pinochet. So did Gen. Suharto.

The problem is there is no other more effective solution to Marxism. This has been proven time and again by history.

These people tell us their plans and our response is disbelief, denial, minimization, and too often, collusion.

Posted by: San Franpsycho

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:45 PM (wljQY)

189 160 Visual metaphor for the DSA in the last election.

https://tinyurl.com/3kpfucff

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:29 PM (ndZc7)

Dat der's just a widdie-biddie little gator.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:46 PM (l3cgK)

190 A Dreamcoat isn't a fkin Tutu

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 01:47 PM (Ia/+0)

191 >>>Perhaps the use of concrete in construction, three outs to an inning, treating bacterial infections with anti-biotics, assuming that water will run downhill in civic engineering projects, chlorinating city water supplies, and having runways aligned with prevailing winds are also "populist" ideas? That's how idiotic this is.

Posted by: rhomboid
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Now, that's getting with the program, brother.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:47 PM (wljQY)

192 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (ndZc7)

An absolutely biblically illiterate pastor twisting that particular story to advance her own progressive agenda on LGBT issues.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2026 01:47 PM (JrHfD)

193 162 "Missing" memory card that would have put Georgia House seat in Republican favor found.

https://tinyurl.com/4t2h4fzd

Goes to Newsweek article

Posted by: Halfhand at November 08, 2026 01:30 PM (94Zfv)

Seems like a good reason for Dems to push for stricter voting rules, no?
/sarc

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:47 PM (l3cgK)

194
their long-standing policy idiocy precisely and in every case goes against the (often naive) goals of their dim voters. "Affordability" is directly undermined by every single major D economic policy.
Posted by: rhomboid

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I remember "joy" in Kamala's campaign. She'll bring us joy. She has joy. It's all about joy!

I stopped watching Mark Halperin when one of his real-people call-ins smiled and said "Why not a little joy? Instead of all this divisiveness and anger, joy seems like a good thing!"

Kamala was going to bring us, individually and society-wide, J O Y. Just say the word over and over. People believe it will fall into their laps.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 01:48 PM (XJ22o)

195 A Dreamcoat isn't a fkin Tutu
Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 01:47 PM (Ia/+0)

ROFL

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 01:48 PM (RIvkX)

196 If voters did not possess an acceptable photo ID, they could still cast a ballot by presenting a supporting document and signing a Reasonable Impediment Declaration. Supporting documents could include:

A government document showing the voter's name and address
A current utility bill
A bank statement
A government check
A paycheck

Out-fucking-standing, TX State House and Senate.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 01:48 PM (SN8r1)

197 As a wise Moron has pointed out, you can vote your way into communism, but you'll have to shoot your way out.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 01:49 PM (4NO2D)

198 179
Then again, Rubio might win going away in 28. Think about it… who will be the Dem nominee: Newsom, Kamala, AOC, Buttgig…. All unattractive stupid whackos. It’s not out of the realm of possibility by any means…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Elections matter!
To whom?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:49 PM (wljQY)

199 Cultural Marxism has long snuck into the Christian churces.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 01:49 PM (Ia/+0)

200 An absolutely biblically illiterate pastor twisting that particular story to advance her own progressive agenda on LGBT issues.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:49 PM (ndZc7)

201 runner I wouldn't hold you breath on that one. O-care and its associated iron rice bowl elements (insurance oligopolies, state bureaucracies and Dem cutout NGOs) alone make that a non-starter. On top of that you have the dim Dem electorate (including, possibly even especially, "educated" and higher income cohorts) that could never process this wonderful thing they never understood being undone.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 01:49 PM (U/Byj)

202 >>Out-fucking-standing, TX State House and Senate.

It's not just Texas. Look at the link I posted at 169.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:49 PM (viF8m)

203 167 Bible Study Corner.

Lutheran pastor says Joseph's colored coat was a "pretty princess dress" and that he "suffers violence for being queer"

The Dissenter
@disntr
ELCA "pastor" Adrianne Meier says Jacob gave his son (Joseph) a "pretty princess dress."

“What if this is the story of a boy in a princess dress who suffers violence at the hands of those who hate them for being queer? … ‘What can a queer kid teach us about God?’

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (ndZc7)

Um, Joseph married and had kids, and those two were considered tribes of Israel (Ephraim & Manasseh)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:50 PM (l3cgK)

204 If cheating is what enabled the Dems to win in Texas then why, pray tell, didn’t they do it to get rid of Trump 2 years ago?? Per all the reporting all those new voters on the rolls were added 22-24…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:50 PM (M+uMR)

205 AND his DAD got him that outfit...is this guy saying that Jacob bought his son Joseph a dress? What utter BS.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:50 PM (l3cgK)

206 An absolutely biblically illiterate pastor twisting that particular story to advance her own progressive agenda on LGBT issues.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2026 01:47 PM (JrHfD)

And she can be shut down by showing the exact meaning of the word "coat." If it doesn't have anything to do with women's clothing, she lied. End of debate.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 01:52 PM (1Ff7Z)

207 From John Hinderaker's post today at PowerLine blog:

One consequence of the Republicans’ poor showing in the midterms is that the Democrats now have it in their power to effectively abolish the Electoral College and change the way we elect the president. And that is just one of the many changes the Democrats have in mind.

The DSA platform includes, among other things, abolishing the Senate and downgrading the Supreme Court and the presidency so that those branches are subordinate to Congress. Which is to say, the House of Representatives, since there won’t be any Senate.

The Democrats aren’t yet in a position to amend the Constitution, although they control most of the states they need to get there. But even the less extreme members of the party are talking about admitting more reliably Democratic states and packing the Supreme Court.

All they need is to win the presidency in 2028, which they likely will. It is hard to be optimistic about the future.

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:53 PM (ayRl+)

208 >>If cheating is what enabled the Dems to win in Texas then why, pray tell, didn’t they do it to get rid of Trump 2 years ago?? Per all the reporting all those new voters on the rolls were added 22-24…

Who is saying they didn't try?

They obviously cheated in 2020. Probably long before that.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:54 PM (viF8m)

209 208 >>If cheating is what enabled the Dems to win in Texas then why, pray tell, didn’t they do it to get rid of Trump 2 years ago?? Per all the reporting all those new voters on the rolls were added 22-24…

Who is saying they didn't try?

They obviously cheated in 2020. Probably long before that.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:54 PM (viF8m)

The dems cheat every year. It's just that some years they don't cheat enough to win.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:55 PM (l3cgK)

210 The Interstate Popular Vote Compact is obviously unconstitutional and will not withstand judicial scrutiny.

If there is any legitimate judiciary left.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 01:55 PM (RIvkX)

211 Lutheran pastor says Joseph's colored coat was a "pretty princess dress" and that he "suffers violence for being queer"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (ndZc7)
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Nowhere - except for on Broadway - does it state that the garment given by Jacob to his son Joseph was of many colors. It may have been no more than 2 colors. כתונת פסים literally refers to a striped outer garment.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 01:56 PM (D0X9e)

212
Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 01:53 PM (ayRl+)

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That's why I stopped reading Powerline. Blackpill Central.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 01:58 PM (XJ22o)

213 If there is any legitimate judiciary left.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 01:55 PM (RIvkX)

Not if I have anything to say about it.

"Justice" Sofatomyer.

BTW, SF, what is the Hebrew word for coat mean? Can it be construed any possible way as a female's dress?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 01:58 PM (1Ff7Z)

214 >>>
One consequence of the Republicans’ poor showing in the midterms is that the Democrats now have it in their power to effectively abolish the Electoral College and change the way we elect the president. And that is just one of the many changes the Democrats have in mind.
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Drop kick Hinderaker to the moon.
Republicans didn't make a poor showing. They showed up in traditional numbers, some more than usual for mid terms.
Democrats, however, turned out in miraculous numbers more than usual.

how can he make sense if he starts with a false premise?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:58 PM (wljQY)

215
That's why I stopped reading Powerline. Blackpill Central.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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They are Dartmouth bankers and lawyers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 01:59 PM (wljQY)

216 I only look at Powerline for the week in pictures. Everything else there is retarded… those guys live in the 90s, lost track of the time decades ago

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 02:00 PM (M+uMR)

217 If it doesn't have anything to do with women's clothing, she lied.
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It's not a lie if you believe it. OTOH, she probably does not believe it...just wants her listeners to believe it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 02:00 PM (XeU6L)

218 1ST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)

219 Um, Joseph married and had kids, and those two were considered tribes of Israel (Ephraim & Manasseh)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I can't believe that people think like this. It seems 50% of the public enjoys being fed bullshit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 02:01 PM (SN8r1)

220 >>> 211 Lutheran pastor says Joseph's colored coat was a "pretty princess dress" and that he "suffers violence for being queer"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 01:32 PM (ndZc7)
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Nowhere - except for on Broadway - does it state that the garment given by Jacob to his son Joseph was of many colors. It may have been no more than 2 colors. כתונת פסים literally refers to a striped outer garment.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 01:56 PM (D0X9e)

*glares*

Posted by: Zombie Dally Parton at November 08, 2026 02:02 PM (PgV1+)

221 I heard President Trump speaking to reporters, and he’s now saying that Iran is decimated militarily and wants a deal. If Iran can disrupt the Strait of Hormuz, why do they want a deal? They pretty much know that no ground troops are going to be deployed, so what’s their motivation? If they deal, they’re as good as dead.

Posted by: Unkaren at November 08, 2026 02:03 PM (TgU4U)

222 219 Um, Joseph married and had kids, and those two were considered tribes of Israel (Ephraim & Manasseh)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I can't believe that people think like this. It seems 50% of the public enjoys being fed bullshit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2026 02:01 PM (SN8r1)

Um...I assume you're not writing about my comment...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 02:04 PM (l3cgK)

223 >>> 204 If cheating is what enabled the Dems to win in Texas then why, pray tell, didn’t they do it to get rid of Trump 2 years ago?? Per all the reporting all those new voters on the rolls were added 22-24…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 08, 2026 01:50 PM (M+uMR)

If there is even a single election at any level in any year or location in which there is no cheating, then there is no cheating in any election at all. QED!

Posted by: logic is hard at November 08, 2026 02:05 PM (PgV1+)

224 216 I only look at Powerline for the week in pictures. Everything else there is retarded… those guys live in the 90s, lost track of the time decades ago

Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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The nasty part is that they do know what's going on. They know much more than there articles tell. They are agents of the administrative state. They knew Obama was going to win his first election less than three months after he started his campaign but they never said it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 02:07 PM (wljQY)

225 Dec. 11, 2026 will be 45 days from the election. Pursuant to 2018’s EO 13848, still in effect, Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election, a declaration of an election emergency is in effect, and a report must be made within 45 days of the election by certain federal agencies, including the DoW, and if evidence of foreign interference is found, targeted sanctions will be made against foreign actors found to have interfered. Will it change the elections? Maybe not, but it will make an argument for it. I will wait for Dec. 11, and see. How about you?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 02:07 PM (ZVgZ4)

226 You've got to work with what you have.

https://tinyurl.com/5yt4exwf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 02:15 PM (ndZc7)

227 Commie-Crats B4 Election: AFFORDABILITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Commie-Crats After Election: IMPEACHMENT !!!!!!!!!!

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to relive history .....

Gasoline on the Affordability Crisis AGAIN !!!!

I love the smell of 10% Inflation in the morning !!
Smells like... like ... Another Butt F**king Session....

Posted by: Jackson K. at November 08, 2026 03:05 PM (mrJNc)

228 221 I heard President Trump speaking to reporters, and he’s now saying that Iran is decimated militarily and wants a deal. If Iran can disrupt the Strait of Hormuz, why do they want a deal? They pretty much know that no ground troops are going to be deployed, so what’s their motivation? If they deal, they’re as good as dead.

Somebody in his Staff is F**king with his mind....
Maybe Miller will solve this .....

Posted by: Jackson K. at November 08, 2026 03:07 PM (mrJNc)

229 She believes in magic dirt. She thinks they can import an infinite number of 3rd world illegals, and they will magically become Americans and want what she wants.

And she will CONTINUE to believe that even as cities are destroyed, they shit on the sidewalk, and even if she gets raped in the middle of the road by one of them.

They'll just be 'misunderstood'.

White leftist women have destroyed Western civilization.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 08, 2026 03:23 PM (setIA)

230 How has communism, under trump, flourished and accelerated? How did talerico get so many votes in early voting that he didn’t need one single vote on Election Day to win, how did every single county in Texas shift towards dems, all while the dems messaging was weird, aggressive, nonsensical and treasonous, and why has no one questioned these results? We’ve been overthrown since journOlist by both parties, I’m grieving for our nation

Posted by: Fire on the mountain at November 08, 2026 04:28 PM (Mc/Y6)

231 "One man, one vote, one time" means that you had better choose that "one man" very carefully.

Posted by: NeighSayer at November 08, 2026 05:02 PM (bufu1)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 11-08-2026 [Sabrina Chase]

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Welcome to the Book Thread, Guest Poster edition! I will be your host as we explore all sorts of book-related topics. All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.) with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts. Now let us proceed to today's topic, which is ...

In Praise of Librarians

The Book Thread exists for the love of books, and what better place to revel in the rich possibilities of the written word than a library? A proper library, that is, not a soulless industrial concrete outrage with not a single comfy chair or reading nook! A perfect library has these, and a rich collection, and a librarian.

A librarian is like a trail guide for all the wonders, especially for the young, easily overwhelmed by all the possibilities a library contains. Sometimes you just need a few books on mummies, for ... reasons.

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I always made a point of befriending librarians -- an easy thing for a bookworm to do, and it can have unexpected benefits even beyond being allowed to check out books in the grown-up section! I was once granted the signal honor of being permitted to take and read a new book that *hadn't even gotten its little stamp card sleeve glued in yet!* (It was a book on the Black Death and I was going through a phase of yersina pestis fascination, and the school librarian knew and indulged me.)

Of course, with great power comes great responsibility. The Books Must Return!
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The shame, the agony of Overdue Fees! In the dark ages, they would not let you check out more books if you didn't pay! You may have noticed the general societal collapse when that stern but loving rule was removed... (Strangely enough, the Bloom County Barbarian Librarian bears a strong resemblance to Mrs. Friedman, that school librarian. Maybe that's why she encouraged me to get my Black Death fix ... A sweet lady, all of 5' nothing and I would never, ever cross her. Not in the library, anyway.)

And then later in life, even when I was all grown up and doing software testing for a living, I was quite pleased when I had a job working on library software--a complex system. (I can tell you more than you want to know about how Chinese and Japanese libraries sort things.) I was helping librarians! It felt good.

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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 09:00 AM (NcvvS)

3 Sad to say, but I've given up on reading McCullough's "1776." Seems to be a waste of time now. If they knew what happened, they might have stayed loyal to the Hanoverians.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 09:00 AM (1Ff7Z)

4 Reading Paul Wiegler William the I, originally in German but have a English translation.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 09:01 AM (Ia/+0)

5 Those classic librarians are a dying breed, Sabrina. Who else but modern ones pack the shelves with perverted drek and foolishness?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 09:03 AM (1Ff7Z)

6 Good Sunday morning, horde!

My county library no longer charges overdue fees. They just keep renewing the book until I return it.

I think, if someone else has put a hold on the book, and then I don't return it time, they might impose fees. But I have always returned as soon as they request, so I'm not sure.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:03 AM (CjHsb)

7 8th grade. School librarian asks to chat with me. She asks, "Do you ever watch TV?" I said, of course. I was mystified why should would ask such a crazy question. At the time I was reading about 4-5 books a week and she wondered where I found the time.

I guess I should have been paying more attention in class.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 09:05 AM (RIvkX)

8 "It was a book on the Black Death and I was going through a phase of yersina pestis fascination.."

Who amongst us hasn't had a yersina pestis fascination? I know I did.

Posted by: Tuna at November 08, 2026 09:06 AM (lJ0H4)

9 When the kids were small, I got to know the story time librarians by their first names. (Not that I would use them in front of the kids.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:06 AM (rlRvG)

10 BOOKMAN: I remember when the librarian was a much older woman: Kindly, discreet, unattractive. We didn't know anything about her private life.
We didn't want to know anything about her private life.
She didn't have a private life.

While you're thinking about that, think about this: The library closes at five o'clock, no exceptions. This is your final warning. Got that, kewpie-doll?

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at November 08, 2026 09:06 AM (0o1lz)

11 Grew up in a town that had a bit of heaven in an undersized library. There were not enough shelves for all the books so they would be stacked on the floor. Great as a 9 year old, crawling from stack to stack.
Must have been hard on the librarians.
The new town library was much brighter and better in many ways. I think I miss the card catalog the most. The smell, the flipping through books to find buried treasure. Sigh, like the early internet when all the newspapers were free online.

Posted by: Book Rugrat at November 08, 2026 09:07 AM (wcnaS)

12 Morning, Sabrina.

Howdy, Horde.

Always liked libraries. Still have fond memories of the Chicago Lawn branch back in the early & mid-60s. Found tons of goodies there -- Bradbury, Shirley Jackson, some great sf anthologies. Became a librarian later. Spent 13 years working in libraries, 9 at Kroch's & Brentano's bookstore in Chicago, and the rest in IT (which paid better and made it easier to support my book habit and pay the mortgage). Still like libraries, but since I got into the habit of buying my books (no time limit & no overdue fees), I use them less.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 09:09 AM (q3u5l)

13 Morning, Book Threadists! Welcome, Sabrina!

This week I finished Birdie Horne's Don't Cross Mo Ellery, a comic mystery in the Stephanie Plum mold. Mo is a 29-year-old marketing staffer in Chicago who suddenly has everything yanked out from under her. She gets fired (embarrassing and comic story), her boyfriend decides they need to take a break, and she has to move out and find a new job. She winds up as a school crossing guard . . . and blunders into a murder, an affair with a hot lady political worker*, clueless caretaking of three show-quality French poodles, and more. Lots of fun.

*Yes, there is bisexuality in the story. But the whole thing is told with such a light touch that it didn't bother me any more than Mo's first-person narration in present tense, which I normally hate.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:10 AM (56Qyq)

14 @11 --

I miss the newspapers on microfilm and microfiche.

And the card catalog drawers slid so smoothly.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:12 AM (rlRvG)

15 *Brentano's bookstore*

Just don't take anything you haven't purchased into a bathroom!

Posted by: George Costanza at November 08, 2026 09:13 AM (0o1lz)

16 I’m about halfway done with Robin Hobb’s Ship of Destiny, the third and final volume of her Liveship Traders series. Surprisingly relevant for today’s chaotic times.

Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at November 08, 2026 09:14 AM (DEivv)

17 So what was it about librarians that made them such a hot subject for porn videos? The glasses?

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:14 AM (rlRvG)

18 Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at November 08, 2026 09:06 AM (0o1lz)
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Bookman had the best rants in the entire 7 years of that series. Joyboy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 09:15 AM (RIvkX)

19 At the library, too, I found no less than two modern reissues of John Dickson Carr mysteries from the 1930s. The Plague Court Murders (1938 ), which introduced the Winston Churchill-like Sir Henry Merrivale, is the one I am almost done with: a locked-house murder in a run-down London mansion that dates to the 1660s and exudes palpable menace. I *think* I have the murderer spotted, but -- naturally, with Carr's impossible crimes -- I've got no idea how he did it. That's part of the fun.

The other is a Dr. Gideon Fell, The Eight of Swords 1934), from the period just before Carr settled into doing almost exclusively impossible crime stories. If it's anything like the first Fell, Hag's Nook, it should be a delight.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:16 AM (56Qyq)

20 I worked as a library assistant in a law firm many moons ago. Back in ancient times, many of the books were binders that you would unclasp, insert or remove updated pages as provided by the publisher, then reassemble. I suspect it's all electronic now.

Posted by: PabloD at November 08, 2026 09:16 AM (mXZsC)

21 Interesting timing for this topic. I'm visiting my parents for the week, and decided to stop by the local (branch) library that I grew up in! A few things have changed, but others are substantially unchanged. The sci-fi/fantasy isle is in the same area, and is still well-stocked with Star Trek novels. (although they are much newer novels)

They even have the teen's comic book corner in the same spot! With actual floppy comics (in addition to the new graphic novel shelf) That brought back nostalgia. That very spot is where I learned that Grant Morrison is a bitter hateful hack, who helped break me of my love of the X-Men. ...Okay, not all nostalgia is of good times...

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2026 09:16 AM (jHYFI)

22 it didn't bother me any more than Mo's first-person narration in present tense, which I normally hate.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:10 AM (56Qyq)

Why do we hate this so much? Because I do. But I can't articulate it when I tell my kids I don't want to finish a book because of it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:18 AM (CjHsb)

23 So what was it about librarians that made them such a hot subject for porn videos? The glasses?
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026


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Think Barbara Feldon on Get Smart. She was nearsighted, so that smoldering eye technique of hers (she said) was partly because she needed glasses. It worked beautifully, didn't it?

If the women of the library science major at my college in the '70s had been half as good-looking as the drama majors, I'd have gone into the former. But, noooo.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:18 AM (56Qyq)

24 My county library no longer charges overdue fees. They just keep renewing the book until I return it.

I think, if someone else has put a hold on the book, and then I don't return it time, they might impose fees. But I have always returned as soon as they request, so I'm not sure.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:03 AM (CjHsb)

Same. But, someone had a hold on something the kid hadn't returned yet. $1.50 late fee. I'll pay it... eventually.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 09:19 AM (1Ff7Z)

25 it didn't bother me any more than Mo's first-person narration in present tense, which I normally hate.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:10 AM (56Qyq)

Why do we hate this so much? Because I do. But I can't articulate it when I tell my kids I don't want to finish a book because of it.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026


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Usually it is because using the present tense heralds a "literary" approach, a "Look how well I'm writing!" flavor. The Mo Ellery book has none of that. I was ten pages in before I realized it was in present tense.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:20 AM (56Qyq)

26 The library here is a nice spacious building, but the past few librarians seemed to subscribe to the 'if it hasn't circulated in several years it's outta here' school of collection management. I can find all the James Patterson anyone could possibly want. If I decide it's time for a deep dive into Hemingway, Maugham, Kipling, or John O'Hara, the pickings are damn slim.

They long ago got rid of most of what I was thinking I'd spend my retirement reading.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 09:21 AM (q3u5l)

27 Since other new podcasts are lagging behind, up to episode 14 in the Lubbers Hole, a Patrick O'Brian books.
At pt 2 of The Mauritius Command.
Seems its about 4 episodes per book, with occasionally another fan interview, last one has a real Naturalist and commented on what Dr Maturin might have know in this period

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 09:22 AM (Ia/+0)

28 And the card catalog drawers slid so smoothly.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:12 AM (rlRvG)

They greased your entry into the world of unknown books.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 09:22 AM (1Ff7Z)

29 Our massive library system here doesn't carry too many classic books. If you want the latest chick lit, which most modern lit is, they have that but anything of substance you are out of luck.

Posted by: nckate at November 08, 2026 09:22 AM (enNUy)

30 I remember newspapers attached to these wooden (bamboo, maybe?) sticks and hung in some sort of rack. You could read current (or recent) editions of the NYT or WSJ. As a high schooler it made you feel so worldly to be reading something other than your local rag.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 09:22 AM (0o1lz)

31 My fractional system never caught on.

Posted by: Melvil Dewey at November 08, 2026 09:24 AM (0o1lz)

32 We have around 25 branches

Posted by: nckate at November 08, 2026 09:24 AM (enNUy)

33 GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU. Made me smile just reading your intro.

Posted by: Pamazon at November 08, 2026 09:25 AM (b5MGU)

34 No reading for me this week, but I did order a highly recommended book on the proper use of oscilloscopes. Amazon didn't have it, so I used AbeBooks. Found an English version for sale in Germany, so it's on the way via zeppelin or U-boat, I presume.

For those of you who are interested, TRex Arms (no affiliation with our CoB, as far as I know) just posted an online library of something like 4000 US military field manuals. It's searchable, and downloadable in PDF or EPUB formats. Get your copy of MCDP-1 Warfighting today; never know when it'll be useful.

Posted by: PabloD at November 08, 2026 09:25 AM (mXZsC)

35 So, years ago, I picked up a big fantasy novel to read, as one does. But I soon bailed on this particular novel. The main character was morally reprehensible, and I wanted him to die. Now, I don't require my fantasy characters to have modern morality (in fact, I despise tropes like that) but I have limits. Killing the children in a nearby town and then raping the women so the town's children are now of your town's bloodline...That's a bit beyond the pale. I quit reading when it became apparent that the character was not going to be changing...

Anyways, I don't remember the title of the book, only that I hated it. At least, I didn't remember the title. While wandering through the library a few days ago, I saw a cover that was hauntingly familiar. I read the blurb on the back, and the first part of the blurb matched my memory. I think I found the book I bailed on! Turns out it was (probably) Steven Erikson's "House of Chains," part of the Malazan Book of the Fallen series. I believe our regular host Perfessor Squirrel read through that series not so long ago. I don't think I'll be following him down that path..

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2026 09:26 AM (jHYFI)

36 I used to joke that our overdue-book fines paid for all the library expansions.

And I never will forget the time I took an armload of books out to the van, put the books on the roof while I secured the kids in their car seats, and then drove off. Remembered the books within a mile. Drove back to look for them but never found them. Cost us around $35.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:28 AM (rlRvG)

37 Also this week, I found some reissues of A.J. Cronin novels -- actually "first time in book form" novels, as they'd only been published in magazines in the late Thirties and early Forties. This one is The Valorous Years from 1940. It stars Duncan Sterling, a young man who despite a left arm crippled by polio is determined to become a physician.

Cronin's work is low-key, like Somerset Maugham's and his Canadian counterpart Robertson Davies. Dramatic material -- several of Cronin's books have become movies -- and never dull. I was looking for one he wrote that might be classified as a mystery, Beyond This Place (1940). "Paul Mathry learns the father he thought dead is actually in prison for murder. Determined to uncover the truth, he follows old evidence and hostile witnesses into a long fight for justice."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:28 AM (56Qyq)

38 first-person narration in present tense, which I normally hate.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Worse yet, second person. "You go into the library. You see the librarian. You say, 'Hello, librarian."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 09:28 AM (ndZc7)

39 Morning, all.

My city's library is stuffed with woke, pervert and hate-Trump garbage. It's only rarely that I find something worth checking out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 09:28 AM (qRla/)

40 Around 2009, I red a horror novel titled-

"Last Days" by Brian Evenson.

The story concerned a detective, who got involved with a case concerning an apocalyptic amputation cult.

"Last Days" was an excellent read and surprisingly not particularly gory. It was more interested in building tension ala detective novel and creeping you out with ideas. More psychological horror.

Anyway, excellent read and well worth your time for a chilly fall or winter read.

The way the book hints at the end. It was highly unlikely that there could be a sequel.

But now....There's a sequel title-

"Phantom Limb" by Brian Evenson.

I just saw it this week, so I bought it and will read in the upcoming week. Well, maybe I'll reread "Last Days" again first.

I dislike movies which change the rules between the original and the sequel, but there is wiggle room at the end of "Last Days", so I'll give Evenson some grace on this.

Also, I guess "Last Days" may have been his "bestseller" with several good reviews. So, to recycle back to LD isn't a huge surprise. The writing biz, you know.

I'm looking forward to reading "Phantom Limb" in any event.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:30 AM (YSUhf)

41 @30 --

Amen!

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:30 AM (rlRvG)

42 So, years ago, I picked up a big fantasy novel to read, as one does. But I soon bailed on this particular novel. The main character was morally reprehensible, and I wanted him to die. Now, I don't require my fantasy characters to have modern morality (in fact, I despise tropes like that) but I have limits. Killing the children in a nearby town and then raping the women so the town's children are now of your town's bloodline...That's a bit beyond the pale. I quit reading when it became apparent that the character was not going to be changing...

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2026


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There's being an anti-hero, and then there's going way beyond that --!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:31 AM (56Qyq)

43 It is blackly amusing to see librarians strain their shoulders patting themselves on the back for "fighting censorship" and celebrating "banned books week" -- and then letting their personal politics dictate what books are in the collection. It's not censorship when leftists do it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026 09:32 AM (78a2H)

44 If you want the latest chick lit, . . ..
Posted by: nckate

What's all this I am hearing about clit lick. . . .

Posted by: Zombie Emily Latella at November 08, 2026 09:32 AM (L/8vZ)

45 OK, on to books.

I'm still plowing through "Bulldog Drummond" -- but for the past several months, I've also been dipping into "Matt Helm: The War Years," a pastiche of flashbacks from the Helm series by Donald Hamilton, interspersed with original material by Keith Wease. I finished it last week.

I had high hopes for this, but it just sludged along. Hamilton made writing and plotting seem so easy; they're obviously not.

As for friend Drummond, he's busy crossing swords with the mastermind of a plot to destroy England somehow. It involves a U.S. millionaire, whom Mr. Big has kidnapped and tortured to gain his signature. The poor guy is in a tug-of-war between Drummond and MB. Right now Drummond has escaped from MB's mansion and is planning to follow him to Paris, where the plers will have an important meeting.

(continued)

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:32 AM (rlRvG)

46 Usually it is because using the present tense heralds a "literary" approach, a "Look how well I'm writing!" flavor.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:20 AM (56Qyq)

Yes. That's part of it. But I also feel like the author is forcing me into experiencing the story as it happens, when what I want is for the author to tell me what happened.

Or they're trying to make me feel like I'm part of the story. I don't want to be part of the story. I want to read someone else's story.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:33 AM (CjHsb)

47 I dunno, Wolfus. Maybe you just got an off-year crop of students in your college's library school. When I went to library school there were a respectable number of nifty-looking ladies in the crowd.

The librarian who ran the local public library when Mrs Some Guy & I moved into this town was the pure stereotype. Grey hair in a bun, glasses, the whole nine yards. But she knew her business and the collection then was much better than it is now.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 09:33 AM (q3u5l)

48 Yay book thread! Our municipal library is located next to the high school, and a common practice was to stroll over and swap out books. I read a lot of sci-fi and fantasy.

Uniquely, there were no library cards. One filled out a short form, and that was that. Not sure why, but there was great resistance to the idea of cards. That collapsed with digital scanning, but it was pretty recent, maybe five, ten years ago, and there were a LOT of complaints.

The library now is basically a woke book club with computers and free DVD rentals. I did read a lot of Evelyn Waugh when my kids had swimming lessons (it's also close to the community center, which was the old high school and then a middle school). Most of the collection is chick lit. The non-fiction is garbage. They still use the Dewey Decimal system.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 08, 2026 09:33 AM (ZOv7s)

49 After his service in the war, Albert Campion is still called upon to assist the government from time to time. In The Mind Readers by Margery Allingham, the latest call intersects with family. His nephew Sam Ferris and Sam's friend Edward Longfox are on the way to London for a school break when trouble arrives.

Sam has been called to give testimony regarding a teacher at school, who accused him of cheating when he hinted at what would be asked in an upcoming exam. The thorny issue is that Sam and Edward are able to communicate over distance using their minds. It isn't telepathy, but a pair of electrical devices that they somehow obtained, which allow them to read people's minds after a fashion.

Campion must use all of his wits to get to the bottom of the mystery, which involves a top secret technology and competing British interests, and perhaps foreign powers as well. Everyone is spying on each other, and are trying to determine who is on which side. The game becomes deadly when a technology director is killed. As usual in Allingham's mysteries, Campion must use his intuition to fit seemingly unrelated puzzle pieces together, and to finally solve the mystery.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 08, 2026 09:33 AM (0U5gm)

50 Reading a collection of Chekhov's later short stories. Got me wondering about other famous writers who were MDs, and the list looks to be pretty short per Brave AI:

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
Mikhail Bulgakov
John Keats
Friedrich Schiller

The only modern on the list I'd heard of was Michael Crichton. But I am totally unfamiliar with modern stuff.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 08, 2026 09:34 AM (JzUSu)

51 I re-read _The Left Hand of Darkness_ by Ursula K. LeGuin last week. It's a good book, very well-written, but entirely untainted by fun.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026 09:34 AM (78a2H)

52 (continued from 45)

One plotter is a Bolshie who yammers on about how the workers back home in Russia now get to keep what they earn instead of seeing it hoovered up by monied dimwits. Oh, boy, I didn't need to read THAT this past week. (Even his co-conspirators are tired of his guff. But he's dead now, and good riddance.)

Eavesdropping him, Drummond wonders whether the plot is a Bolshevist takeover. Oh, poor Hugh -- be glad you're fictional.

(I think it'll be more like mind control.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:34 AM (GXXMM)

53 Growing up I had and interesting relationship with libraries. The main city library was on the far side of town, where I needed a ride from my parents to get to. It was a neat old downtown building; 2-story, with a cool balcony on the second story looking down on the lobby...but part of its 'charm' was its remoteness. I remember spending some time sitting by the payphone waiting for my ride to arrive.

Then sometime when I was a teenager, they opened a new branch library just two miles from home. Close enough for me to ride a bike to on my own! It wasn't as majestic as the old building (single story, sort of asterisks shaped, part of community college campus) but I visited it far more frequently. I have very fond, if very different, memories of each building.

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2026 09:35 AM (jHYFI)

54 I just love libraries Classic brick Carnegie libraries, the stacks at Penn State with the movable shelves and tiny narrow staircases that felt like they belonged in a submarine, the little tiny library in East Machias, Maine that had old millstones embedded in the walls and a collection donated by a rich lady long ago who apparently had a thing for fancy limited editions. Leather covers, hand-colored illustrations, and some of the books had *never been read*. I could tell because the folded edges of the quires hadn't been cut. Folio versions of the plays of Shakespeare bound in vellum. AMAZING books you would never find in general circulation anywhere else.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 08, 2026 09:35 AM (tY90Q)

55 first-person narration in present tense, which I normally hate.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Worse yet, second person. "You go into the library. You see the librarian. You say, 'Hello, librarian."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026


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An exception for me: Jay McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City. It's not only in second, it's in present tense! Yet it works, partly because it's funny and fast-moving, not obviously "literary."

"You are not the kind of guy who would be at a place like this at this time of the morning. But here you are, and you cannot say that the terrain is entirely unfamiliar, though the details are fuzzy. You are at a nightclub talking to a girl with a shaved head."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:35 AM (56Qyq)

56 The library was the place to be in summer when I was a kid. It had good a/c and had the aroma of books.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 09:36 AM (RIvkX)

57 Our town's head librarian is a hefty woman, and her staff includes one young lady with rainbow hair who is even heftier. The rest are quite elderly.

Except for the work-study students at my college library, I don't think I've ever seen a sexy librarian.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026 09:38 AM (78a2H)

58 I re-read _The Left Hand of Darkness_ by Ursula K. LeGuin last week. It's a good book, very well-written, but entirely untainted by fun.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026


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True. But it is good SF as well as being good lit. When Larry Niven was asked by a literary type to recommend a "good" SF novel, he picked LHoD. "It's good by our [SF readers'] standards as well as by theirs."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:38 AM (56Qyq)

59 At long last, some writing news. Due to recent events I've cut back on any kind of media. You won't see me on the daily threads here, just this and the prayer thread.

This has already produced good fruit. Conqueror 3.0 is cruising ahead, and seems to be on track to publish this year.

I've also settled on a new title for Scorpion's Pass: "Sand and Sensibility: A Jane Austen-style Romantic Adventure." As part of that I will set it up as an audiobook and use that to do a revision. That will move concurrently with Conqueror.

With both of those out of the way, I'm planning on picking up Battle Officer Wolf 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 08, 2026 09:38 AM (ZOv7s)

60 As far as reading: I found an interesting series, The Lost Novels of Nellie Bly on Amazon. I'm sure you all know who Bly is - the reporter who raced around the world in 1889 to beat the 80-day record of Phileas Fogg (she did it in 72).

Apparently, she wanted to become a popular novelist, and wrote a number of them, which were serialized in the newspapers. They were presumed lost until a fellow named David Blixt (a Bly fan) found reprints in an old London paper.

Blixt transcribed them, tidying them up, and has reissued them in this Lost Novels series. The first, The Central Park Mystery, I just finished and enjoyed it very much. It's about a woman found dead in Central Park, posed sitting on a bench, and with absolutely no mark on her body to show how she came to be murdered (it was poison, of course, but never detected).

I liked it - and you will, too, if 19th-century serial novels are your thing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 09:39 AM (qRla/)

61 Except for the work-study students at my college library, I don't think I've ever seen a sexy librarian.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026


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There was a cute one at the public library branch I visited last week.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:39 AM (56Qyq)

62 For those of you who are interested, TRex Arms (no affiliation with our CoB, as far as I know) just posted an online library of something like 4000 US military field manuals. . .
Posted by: PabloD

My personal favorite is 'The M-16A1 Rifle: Operation and Preventive Maintenance'. In comic book form, nothing beats lines like: "Sure firing tracers is fun, but did you know that leads to fouling and stoppages?" and text similar to that.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 08, 2026 09:39 AM (L/8vZ)

63 I re-read _The Left Hand of Darkness_ by Ursula K. LeGuin last week. It's a good book, very well-written, but entirely untainted by fun.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026 09:34 AM (78a2H)
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I dreamt about it.

Posted by: George Orr at November 08, 2026 09:39 AM (RIvkX)

64 40 ...
"Last Days" by Brian Evenson.

The story concerned a detective, who got involved with a case concerning an apocalyptic amputation cult.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:30 AM (YSUhf

Oh, my. I read that earlier this year, I must have put it in my TBR pile due to your mention some years back. There are rarely any unique ideas in what's written these days, but this is. It is seriously creepy.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:39 AM (CjHsb)

65 Blixt transcribed them, tidying them up, and has reissued them in this Lost Novels series. The first, The Central Park Mystery, I just finished and enjoyed it very much. It's about a woman found dead in Central Park, posed sitting on a bench, and with absolutely no mark on her body to show how she came to be murdered (it was poison, of course, but never detected).

I liked it - and you will, too, if 19th-century serial novels are your thing.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026


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Sounds like a Queen or Carr mystery!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:40 AM (56Qyq)

66 "Killing the children in a nearby town and then raping the women so the town's children are now of your town's bloodline...That's a bit beyond the pale..."
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2026 09:26 AM

Agree. Why spend all that time and emotional energy reading when you could just get the same content by watching the news?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 09:40 AM (0o1lz)

67 Second-person present works for the "choose your own adventure" style.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2026 09:41 AM (rlRvG)

68 But to finish off - the one thing I most definitely did NOT like was Blixt's choice to only put out 10 of the 11 of Bly's novels. Why? Because, in his opinion, one was too 'racist' to deserve being available to a modern audience!

Fortunately, I have Kindle Unlimited, which means the novels are free - or as free as such things can be. I have no intention of putting money in the pocket of a self-appointed censor.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 09:41 AM (qRla/)

69 63 -

I see what you did there.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 09:42 AM (q3u5l)

70 first-person narration in present tense, which I normally hate.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Worse yet, second person. "You go into the library. You see the librarian. You say, 'Hello, librarian."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 08, 2026 09:28 AM (ndZc7)

Old style adventure video game.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 09:42 AM (1Ff7Z)

71 I'll read chick lit occasionally, usually something my sis has recommended.

I laugh at her descriptor for books I like better--mysteries with toxically masculine men doing manly things: dick lit.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:43 AM (CjHsb)

72 @45 --

"the plers" = "the plotters"

Posted by: Weak Geek didn't proofread at November 08, 2026 09:43 AM (rlRvG)

73 Narrative voice: how do you feel about a story told, presumably, in present tense about past events? That's my technique.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 09:44 AM (qRla/)

74 We have a great county library system here, and my local one is staffed by a great group of women from in their 20's to their 70's. Over all the years all my purchase requests have been fulfilled except, curiously, Paul Johnson's A History of the Jews.

Posted by: Zoltan at November 08, 2026 09:44 AM (KUWG/)

75 Here's a cute minute and seven seconds in the library:

https://youtu.be/j4nRHHPpnVc

Posted by: Yet ANOTHER Seinfeld reference at November 08, 2026 09:45 AM (0o1lz)

76 it didn't bother me any more than Mo's first-person narration in present tense, which I normally hate.
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Why do we hate this so much? Because I do. But I can't articulate it when I tell my kids I don't want to finish a book because of it.


What grates on me more than first person present tense is Stephenson's third person present participle tense. Not "Joe goes into the store" which is annoying enough but "Now Joe is going into the store." It just really forces attention onto the text and away from the story, IMO. Especially in stories that are clearly set in the past like Cryptonomicon.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 08, 2026 09:46 AM (vTZFs)

77 My public libraries: There is a branch within walking distance of my place, unfortunately closed for a bit while the roof is repaired. Another branch is uptown, a former private home, a beautiful building to read in while it rains. The main branch is downtown, the location I basically grew up in, though I haven't been there in too long. I suspect it now probably houses more homeless people talking to themselves than it does actual readers.

In the suburbs, I have a good branch on my side of the river, and a bigger one on the east bank that I visit as often as I can. They have a lot of modern stuff, yes, but there's a certain amount of the oldies as well. A collection, for example, of Agatha Christie's "Mary Westmacott"-signed non-mystery novels (and they were *good*).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:46 AM (56Qyq)

78 Usually it is because using the present tense heralds a "literary" approach, a "Look how well I'm writing!" flavor.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:20 AM (56Qyq)

Yes. That's part of it. But I also feel like the author is forcing me into experiencing the story as it happens, when what I want is for the author to tell me what happened.

Or they're trying to make me feel like I'm part of the story. I don't want to be part of the story. I want to read someone else's story.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:33 AM (CjHsb)


*clonks Wolfus' and Dash's heads together Three Stooges style*

I disagree, you knuckleheads.

Now, second person might herald a "literary" style, but first person? I've only seen it in genre fiction. Mostly detective or mystery so it can spring a surprise on you.

Also, I don't think someone would write first person to show off their writerly chops. Sure writing first person requires more thinking ahead, but eh, it's a technique.

If it serves the story, why not? Maybe you've read some bad uses of first person.

As far as, first person forcing you to "feel" the story. I kinda get that (con't)

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:46 AM (YSUhf)

79 Reading this week? Spent some of the time picking through a blog devoted to John D. MacDonald, and reading a couple of his stand-alones, Barrier Island and The Neon Jungle. Both good, naturally.

Check out the blog at thetrapofsolidgold.blogspot.com -- well worth a look for any MacDonald fan. You can find a few of his articles on writing reprinted there too.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 09:48 AM (q3u5l)

80 Nonesuch, by Francis Spufford
A v good read, historical "fantasy" WWII, London.
Great writing and characters make it fun to read.

Posted by: Wormword at November 08, 2026 09:49 AM (yOcCL)

81 (con't)

First person in a way robs you of the security inherent in a story told third person.

That makes first person inherently superior in circumstances that your characters don't or can't know what going to happen next.

But, at the end, De gustibus and a hot-cha-cha!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:50 AM (YSUhf)

82 Narrative voice: how do you feel about a story told, presumably, in present tense about past events? That's my technique.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


Funny you would ask while I was typing the mini-rant about Stephenson. It really, for me, comes down to whether the style is competing with the story.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 08, 2026 09:50 AM (vTZFs)

83 The librarian at my son's university was very nice. He was giving son guitar lessons occasionally. We had pleasant emails about different English books because he was an an Anglophile. I think he's retired now because everything was being computerized.

I am currently reading (again) "Pride and Prejudice". This one is annotated and edited by a professor, David Shapard, with a Ph.D degree in European history with a speciality in the 18th century.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 08, 2026 09:51 AM (JrHfD)

84 I was once granted the signal honor of being permitted to take and read a new book that *hadn't even gotten its little stamp card sleeve glued in yet!* (It was a book on the Black Death and I was going through a phase of yersina pestis fascination, and the school librarian knew and indulged me.)
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A true history nerd!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 09:51 AM (kpS4V)

85 "Last Days" by Brian Evenson.

The story concerned a detective, who got involved with a case concerning an apocalyptic amputation cult.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:30 AM (YSUhf

Oh, my. I read that earlier this year, I must have put it in my TBR pile due to your mention some years back. There are rarely any unique ideas in what's written these days, but this is. It is seriously creepy.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 09:39 AM (CjHsb)


Oh...

*ears turn red*

*scuffs dirt*

Well, after showing such fine literary taste

But, Wolfus/ Blockhead.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:56 AM (YSUhf)

86 Currently reading, apparently simultaneously, book 5 in the "John Dies At The End" series by Jason Pargin (AKA David Wong), called: "There Are No Giant Crabs In This Novel," which I am enjoying for its characteristic Pargin nutrients, and a biography of Hitler called, oddly, "Hitler," by Volker Ullrich, which is informative, and finally "Cur Deus Verba" (How the Word Became Words) by Jeremy Holmes, which is extremely interesting.

How ya'll doing?

Posted by: Sharkman at November 08, 2026 09:56 AM (/RHNq)

87 >>The main character was morally reprehensible, and I wanted him to die.

First thought was of Donalson's 'Thomas Covenant' novels. Finished the first trilogy; never bothered with the rest.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 09:57 AM (NcvvS)

88 Having run short of Intrigues for bedtime reading, I checked my dusty Vintage shelf, and found an unread book, 'The Lights Around The Shore', Weiderman.

To my surprise, in the cover there is an inscription, by my mother, 1943. Holding it, I try to imagine what her life must have been like during the war.

Interestingly, on the publishers page there is a listing of the restrictions imposed by the War Production Board regarding book production: Lighter paper, smaller margins, more words per page. I don't think that I would have noticed any of those, as it seems a fairly ordinary hardback, though the cloth of the binding seems a bit coarse.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 09:58 AM (XeU6L)

89 Bob Dole isn't sure how he feels about people speaking in third person, but you can be assured that as soon as Bob Dole knows, Bob Dole will tell you!

Posted by: Bob Dole at November 08, 2026 09:58 AM (0o1lz)

90 Cruising through ebay, I found a company selling some comic book omnibuses for dirt cheap. Like $30. An absolute fire-sale. They somehow got their hands on way more over-stock than they needed.

Alas, I assume the reason they received all these books in the first place was that they didn't get sold by other vendors. None of the books on offer are things I need in my collection.(Micronaughts and Rom are too niche for me, Spider-Gwen is just a meme-character, Ta-Nehisi Coates' Black Panther just makes me snear...)

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2026 09:59 AM (jHYFI)

91 Stayed up all night reading our own MP4's Theda Bara mystery "Ten Thousand Midnights". Theda and her makeup artist friend Toby Swanson are investigating the murder of director William Desmond Taylor. No spoilers, I'm only halfway through. This is the best one in the series so far.

I keep Wikipedia handy so I can look up all the silent era Hollywood people. I've also been leading through Daniel Blum's "A Pictorial History of the Silent Screen".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 09:59 AM (kpS4V)

92 Malazan’s House of Chains is NOT the book I’d recommend to start the series. The main character is quite despicable. Though he does do terrible things to people who are worse.

Other books in the series have much better characters, who do a great deal of good for the right reasons.

Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at November 08, 2026 10:00 AM (DEivv)

93 Weird my comment disappeared sorta.

It was-

Oh...

*ears turn red*

*scuffs dirt*

Well, after showing such fine literary taste, I revoke the "blockhead" comment for Dash, a true gentlewoman and a scholar.

But, Wolfus? Blockhead.

😀

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 10:00 AM (YSUhf)

94 Wil McCarthy's post-apocalyptic acid road trip "Orbital Bombardment Victory Road" is just what I need in These Trying Times(tm).

In the future, Utopian eco-terrorist spacers (or "holocaustronauts") subjected the planet to vicious pummeling with directed space rocks to bring it back into balance. The U.S. is bisected by the Orbital Bombardment Victory Road: "Stretching from Baltnomore to San Fiasco, the OBVR meanders through the Dark Counties, where electric light was once forbidden on pain of craterization. To this day, electricity (while often technically legal) is still frowned upon in many of those counties, as they've long been the home of Medievalists and Larpers, of Mennonites and Amish, of the fierce, proud Madmacs and the joyful Burning Men..."

A young reporter, a car dealer, and an economics professor travel across this strange land in a retrofuturistic station wagon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 10:01 AM (kpS4V)

95 As far as, first person forcing you to "feel" the story. I kinda get that (con't)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:46 AM (YSUhf)

I'm fine with first person. I just don't like present tense stories.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 10:02 AM (CjHsb)

96 In college one of my friends had a visit from a hometown high school buddy -- who spoke about himself entirely in the third person. Nice enough guy but very weird to listen to.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026 10:03 AM (78a2H)

97 Good morning fellow book threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. Late to the thread. Don't you hate when life gets in the way of the book thread?

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 10:03 AM (yTvNw)

98 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 09:28 AM (qRla/)

How are sales going, MP?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:04 AM (1Ff7Z)

99 As our young protagonist's grandpappy said, "America ain't something you can defeat, boy. It's an idea. Actually it's a hundred ideas, a thousand ideas all wove together. It's a weed. It's a perpetual motion machine. No matter how many cities you turn to glass, that idea going to squeeze back up through the floorboards of your house.

The Indians became cowboys. The slaves became presidents. The cowboys became astronauts, and the astronauts became revolutionaries, and they model their revolution on what? Ours. Ands then we turn it sideways and f*** 'em with it. And they love it."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 10:04 AM (kpS4V)

100 I have no problem with first-person narration (and I have seen it in many non-genre novels and short stories; Red Sky at Morning, Breakfast at Tiffany's, True Grit). Rex Stout's narration as Archie Goodwin in the Nero Wolfe series is incomparable, and I cannot imagine those being told in third.

It's present tense, whether in first or third (or even the very rare second) person, that I usually dislike.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:05 AM (56Qyq)

101 "The story concerned a detective, who got involved with a case concerning an apocalyptic amputation cult."

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:30 AM

Hey. We're sitting right here.

Posted by: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia at November 08, 2026 10:06 AM (0o1lz)

102 I’m really enjoying Sgt Mom’s Texas Republic stories: finished ‘Lone Star Sons’ and started ‘Lone Star Glory’. I hope she can keep up with me!

Posted by: The best thief in Lankhmar at November 08, 2026 10:06 AM (NbmfQ)

103 and a biography of Hitler called, oddly, "Hitler," by Volker Ullrich

I have that. An excellent 2-volume bio, equal to - if not exceeding - the Ian Kershaw opus.

Ullrich has also written a few books about Weimar Germany; his Germany 1923 is a good look at the conditions that made Hitler think the country was ready for his putsch.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 10:07 AM (qRla/)

104
As far as, first person forcing you to "feel" the story. I kinda get that (con't)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 09:46 AM (YSUhf)

I'm fine with first person. I just don't like present tense stories.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 10:02 AM (CjHsb)


My misuse of the term. I meant that present tense robs you of security in reading a story.

That's why it works in mysteries/thrillers so well.

Anyway, I'm glad you read "Last Days". As you said, it was an original idea and very well executed.

It stuck in my mind so well that I haven't reread it yet.

I've been waiting to forget some of it, buuuut, I guess "Phantom Limb" is forcing my hand so I'll reread it now.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 10:08 AM (YSUhf)

105 Present tense narration works best when the story is emulating a non-text medium. Like when you're summarizing a movie. Stephenson's _Snow Crash_ started as his script for a graphic novel, so he was summarizing it for the artist.

Playing games with narrative voice makes the reader pay attention to the narration. If the narrator is a character, that's fine. If not, then it's probably wise to pick a more transparent style.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026 10:08 AM (78a2H)

106 How are sales going, MP?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:04 AM (1Ff7Z)


Slow at the moment, but I haven't checked recently.

My author copies should be coming this week, so I can get one out to your niece.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 10:09 AM (qRla/)

107 26 ... "They long ago got rid of most of what I was thinking I'd spend my retirement reading."

Same here. If our county library has the book I'm looking for, it's a huge surprise these days. Then I find out it's more than likely to be some ebook version, not paper. This is why I try to get physical books for anything I will value. I want to hold the book in my hand. I spend more than enough time looking at a damn screen. I've been using this library system for over 40 years and have seen how the classics and foundational literature has been reduced.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 10:09 AM (yTvNw)

108 I've always found first person present tense kinda keeps me at a distance rather than lending immediacy to a story. Could be that's just me after all the first person or third person past tense stories I grew up reading. But when I see first person present I assume the weather ahead will be a little chilly.

But Barry Malzberg did a lot of first person present IIRC and his stuff works for me. Some other sf writers too. Go figure.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 10:09 AM (q3u5l)

109 Well, after showing such fine literary taste, I revoke the "blockhead" comment for Dash, a true gentlewoman and a scholar.

But, Wolfus? Blockhead.

😀
Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026


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That's a little unfair, NF. Dash and I were complaining about the use of *present tense*, not first-person.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:10 AM (56Qyq)

110 I didnt get that imprssion from cryptonomincon

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 08, 2026 10:10 AM (eHbYv)

111 Well, after showing such fine literary taste, I revoke the "blockhead" comment for Dash, a true gentlewoman and a scholar.

But, Wolfus? Blockhead.

😀
Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026

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That's a little unfair, NF. Dash and I were complaining about the use of *present tense*, not first-person.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:10 AM (56Qyq)


Yes. That was my error.

I meant "present tense" and not "first person"

My brain betrayed me!!!.

So, yes, I'm the blockhead here.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 10:12 AM (YSUhf)

112
I love book stores and libraries.

My library in downtown LaCrosse smells like piss and sh*t now...as our Lefty's in local government have turned it into a homeless refuge. They provide coffee and food for the homeless on the main floor....while allowing them to sleep all day and relieve themselves in the once comfortable chairs for library patrons to read a bit....and they are often caught half naked washing their bodies using the sink in the rest rooms...

It's a disgusting brave new world....

Hope everyone else's libraries are fairing better than mine....

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 08, 2026 10:13 AM (gv2uw)

113 Narrative voice: how do you feel about a story told, presumably, in present tense about past events? That's my technique.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Wait, is Ten Thousand Midnights written in present tense? I just finished it (yes, I will post a review). If it is, you did a damned fine job, because it didn't irritate me.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 10:16 AM (CjHsb)

114
Hope everyone else's libraries are fairing better than mine....
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at November 08, 2026


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The only branch I suspect has been infested with such horrors is the main downtown library. The outer branches and the suburban librarians are still pest-free (if you except the face diaper-wearing librarians).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:16 AM (56Qyq)

115 I'm fine with first person. I just don't like present tense stories.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 10:02 AM (CjHsb)
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What this gets to is perspective. Who is telling the story? Are you listening to a live feed of the radio chatter, or standing next to the person, because otherwise it doesn't really work.

One of the (many) cool things about Lord of the Rings is how every single event has a witness, and sometimes Tolkien will even have a character relate his perspective at a particular moment. It seems like its the usual omniscient narrator, but it isn't. Someone in the Fellowship saw it or had it related to them.

Joseph Conrad often has his stories related by someone, Marlowe being a favorite, and he'll sometimes have the narrator's voice falter and dramatic moments, or take some other action. Very effective.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 08, 2026 10:17 AM (ZOv7s)

116 I got a notification that the annual fall book sale will take place at my local library in a couple of weeks. It’s always a fun time.

Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at November 08, 2026 10:17 AM (DEivv)

117 Wait, is Ten Thousand Midnights written in present tense? I just finished it (yes, I will post a review). If it is, you did a damned fine job, because it didn't irritate me.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 10:16 AM (CjHsb)


I consider it present tense, as Toby is telling the reader in real time about things that had happened in the past.

Thank you for the compliment, and I look forward to the review!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 10:20 AM (qRla/)

118 It's present tense, whether in first or third (or even the very rare second) person, that I usually dislike.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:05 AM (56Qyq)

***

I kept bailing on reading "successful writer" Andy Weir's Project Hail Mary because of the first person present tense narration. It was one of the things that made me dislike the protagonist.

I only finished because my son had read it and encouraged me to finish because he wanted to discuss it with me.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at November 08, 2026 10:20 AM (TPFQA)

119 Went to see the documentary about Elizabeth Holmes. Quite compelling. Theater was packed.

Perhaps it's time for me to finally read John Carreyrou's book about it: "Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 10:21 AM (0o1lz)

120 Wait, is Ten Thousand Midnights written in present tense? I just finished it (yes, I will post a review). If it is, you did a damned fine job, because it didn't irritate me.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026


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I volunteered to do a beta read for MP4 on it. I don't recall it being in present tense. There were moments when his first-person narrator *uses* present tense, as in things like describing his own house or that of Theda, but the main story is in past. (Right?)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:21 AM (56Qyq)

121 I have very fond, if very different, memories of each building.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2026 09:35 AM (jHYFI)

Main library downtown: Mid-century jet age style, buzzing fluorescent lights high up in the twenty foot ceiling on the second (main) floor. Huge windows with study carrels facing the main street. Terrazzo floors, towering stacks, the circulation desk with the card file nearby and the hanging newspapers leading to a large spiral staircase heading down to the first floor where the microfiche and film were kept, along with the kiddie section.

Branch library: Dull office building, one floor only, smaller stacks with rooms for quiet reading. Industrial carpet, with no widows to the outside. You'd only see the parking lot anyway. A few computers replacing the card file. NO TALKING! Often empty circulation desk, some poor collection of old magazines and papers, the restrooms always smelling.

Which one would you prefer?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:22 AM (1Ff7Z)

122 A bit of apology to MP4. I didn't finish the new Theda Bara book. The new Guite volume, The Coming of Arthur, arrived a week earlier than expected and it has consumed my reading time. The appendices, intro, and woodcut illustrations are worth the price for such a gorgeous volume. The rabbit holes that keep appearing demand attention. More on that next week.

I'm about half way through Ten Thousand Midnights. This may be better than the first two of the series and that's saying a lot. Once done, this coming week, I'll be leaving a five star review on Amazon with comments about why it deserves the rating. If more modern novels were this good I would read more modern stuff.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 10:23 AM (yTvNw)

123 The library at the college where I worked for so many years (and from which library I had borrowing privileges!) was multi-story and used the Library of Congress system rather than the Dewey Decimal setup I grew up with. Still, most of the fiction was on the second floor, older books farther back (but sometimes right in with newer works by the same author). I had quite a few serendipitous finds there over the years.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:24 AM (56Qyq)

124 **blushes at compliments**

Thank you, all. Words like that are a balm that I must remember to keep in my heart whenever I am having a black day.

I've got some book-related writing to do and a Book Thread post due for CBD, so I am calling it a morning. Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 10:26 AM (qRla/)

125 My personal favorite is 'The M-16A1 Rifle: Operation and Preventive Maintenance'. In comic book form, nothing beats lines like: "Sure firing tracers is fun, but did you know that leads to fouling and stoppages?" and text similar to that.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 08, 2026 09:39 AM (L/8vZ)

Sounds silly, but you know only losers and hicks go into the military. Jon Cary said so.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:26 AM (1Ff7Z)

126 Fortunately, I have Kindle Unlimited, which means the novels are free - or as free as such things can be. I have no intention of putting money in the pocket of a self-appointed censor.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 09:41 AM (qRla/)

Might be a project for you, MP. Does the chicken-boy indicate where he found the stories? Maybe it's findable, then you can reprint it yourself, as I assume it's in the public domain by now.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:29 AM (1Ff7Z)

127 > I suspect it's all electronic now.
Posted by: PabloD at November 08, 2026 09:16 AM (mXZsC)

For practical use, it is, but there's a nuance.

There's a small, but real, market for sets of old-school law books. Some lawyers think their print ads and TV commercials are more impressive if they have a massive wall-o-books behind them.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2026 10:30 AM (qlLNh)

128 I am grateful to this thread for getting me interesting in Preston and Child, and weaning me from self-destructive addictions to Harlan Ellison and Doc Savage.

Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 08, 2026 10:33 AM (tRYqg)

129 *getting me interested in

Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 08, 2026 10:33 AM (tRYqg)

130
The new Guite volume, The Coming of Arthur, arrived a week earlier...

Huh. I'm still waiting.

I've been reading more poetry lately.

The book I'm working on seems to require some of the techniques and tricks of poetry and verse in certain parts, but not actual poetry. Just prose.

It makes the writing of those parts a lot of fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 10:34 AM (YSUhf)

131 I consider it present tense, as Toby is telling the reader in real time about things that had happened in the past. . . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026


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This, MP4, is the same basic and time-honored technique used by Stout for Archie Goodwin's narration. He tells about the mystery and their investigation in the past tense; but when he refers to something about the status of Wolfe or the household, he briefly switches to present. "Since I take the trouble to recount one of Wolfe's cases only when murder is involved . . ." Or he tells us when he answers the phone with "Nero Wolfe's residence," that he uses "residence" instead of "office" after six p.m.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:36 AM (56Qyq)

132 128 I am grateful to this thread for getting me interesting in Preston and Child, and weaning me from self-destructive addictions to Harlan Ellison and Doc Savage.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 08, 2026 10:33 AM (tRYqg)

Ha!! I have about four volumes left in the Pendergast series, and then I can read something else. Addictions, indeed.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2026 10:37 AM (CjHsb)

133 60 ... "The first, The Central Park Mystery, I just finished and enjoyed it very much. It's about a woman found dead in Central Park, posed sitting on a bench, and with absolutely no mark on her body to show how she came to be murdered (it was poison, of course, but never detected).

I liked it - and you will, too, if 19th-century serial novels are your thing."

MP4,
Thanks for mentioning the Bly novel. I didn't know she wrote fiction. Just got the Kindle version of the first one for 99 cents. 19th century novels are high on my list of fun reading, think Moby Dick, Sherlock Holmes, Jules Verne, Haggard, Kipling, William Gilmore Sims, and George MacDonald.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 10:37 AM (yTvNw)

134 Interestingly, on the publishers page there is a listing of the restrictions imposed by the War Production Board regarding book production: Lighter paper, smaller margins, more words per page. I don't think that I would have noticed any of those, as it seems a fairly ordinary hardback, though the cloth of the binding seems a bit coarse.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 09:58 AM (XeU6L)

I have a couple of war-time printed books. They also tell you that you have the complete novel, not an abridged version to save paper.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:37 AM (1Ff7Z)

135
I have a couple of war-time printed books. They also tell you that you have the complete novel, not an abridged version to save paper.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026


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I have a similar one, a Pocket Books reprint of one of the early Nero Wolfe novels. "Not one word has been omitted."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:38 AM (56Qyq)

136 73 ... " Narrative voice: how do you feel about a story told, presumably, in present tense about past events?"

I like that approach. It gives immediacy to the narrative, not an old story already resolved.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 10:40 AM (yTvNw)

137 For those whose local public libraries don't hold classic works, or anything but chick lit and woke drivel, 2 suggestions:

1. Ask about inter-library loan

2. If you have a college or university nearby, see if their library offers borrowing privileges to the local community. Many academic libraries don't weed as heavily as public libraries - there are definitely exceptions, such as when the admin wants to repurpose all that prime real estate in the center of campus. And they should generally keep classic lit. Community patrons probably won't have full access to e-resources (maybe while on campus but that could vary), but you might be able to check out physical materials. The majority of librarians will be just as leftist as in public libraries, though.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 10:41 AM (lOlUK)

138 My author copies should be coming this week, so I can get one out to your niece.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 08, 2026 10:09 AM (qRla/)

I'll let her know.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:42 AM (1Ff7Z)

139 Read "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison. It's a post-apocalyptic short horror story about five human survivors tortured by a vast, malevolent supercomputer.

In this case it's both a graphic novel side by side with the original text - PDF edition from internet archive (Napster.) I wasn't looking for it ... but it popped up on the recommended list at the bottom of the webpage.


Posted by: 13times at November 08, 2026 10:42 AM (fnZRl)

140 The majority of librarians will be just as leftist as in public libraries, though.
Posted by: screaming in digital
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except me, but I no longer have a "normal" library job. Even when I did, I didn't work directly with patrons. I wrangle systems & data.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 10:43 AM (lOlUK)

141 self destructive addiction to Harlan Ellison?

So that's what happened to me.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 10:44 AM (q3u5l)

142 "...restrictions imposed by the War Production Board regarding book production: Lighter paper, smaller margins, more words per page..."

Don't forget about us.

Posted by: The 1943 steel pennies at November 08, 2026 10:44 AM (0o1lz)

143 73 ... " Narrative voice: how do you feel about a story told, presumably, in present tense about past events?"

I like that approach. It gives immediacy to the narrative, not an old story already resolved.
Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026


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Yes. A first person narrator may *employ* present tense, but the book is not entirely written that way.

(Come to think of it, there is a middle-period Ellery Queen where the authors break into a third person present tense scene showing Ellery trying to start the writing of a new book. It's funny, but it leads into more serious matters narrated in the usual third person.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:46 AM (56Qyq)

144 My library still has the classics, and I use the interlibrary loan system for oddities. Somebody somewhere will have that obscure novel referenced in the Book Thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 10:47 AM (kpS4V)

145 Alright, back to "As You Wake, Break the Shell".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 10:49 AM (kpS4V)

146 Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 08, 2026 10:33 AM (tRYqg)

How is your book coming along?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:50 AM (1Ff7Z)

147 Sabrina,
Thanks for the Bloom County cartoon. Overdue books were considered a near mortal sin when I was a kid. I still feel that way. I think the overdue fee was a penny a day back in the 50s. Most of the librarians knew my grandmother from childhood. That got me some latitude when I wanted something form the adult section. Funny, I don't think any of them were much over five feet tall, if that. They weren't grouchy but didn't smile a lot either.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 10:50 AM (yTvNw)

148 I am reading "The meaning of your life" by Arthur C Brooks. Its about (duh) the search for meaning. Good so far.

Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 10:51 AM (3j87q)

149 I'm a long time lurker. (Waves)

For what used to be National Novel Writing Month (before the org rolled hard left and self-destructed), I decided to participate in Royal Road's Writeathon this year.

Anyway, I'm posting daily webnovel chapters here: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/202048/banished-into-peril

If you're interested in some light fantasy escapism, for the low price of your time, I invite you to come visit.

I guess I need to give a bit more detail. I'm steelmanning some tropes I absolutely despise, and having a lot of fun doing so.
Take the loathsome "Banished from the party" trope. Instead of an author failing to work through being picked last as a kid, the characters who have been depending on each other for years are friends, and have more emotional maturity than gradeschoolers.
I also reject romantasy. There's romance. Quite a lot of it, actually. But it's much more of the True Love variety. They will, they do, and they're ride-or-die.

If you're interested, I'll see you there!

Posted by: Rufus at November 08, 2026 10:52 AM (LcCGY)

150 Our local library branch isn't mired in woke ideology, but the yearly "banned and censured" book display (direct from the ALA) is annoying.

I was using their computer system to find a book via the interlibrary book loan catalogue (Life and Fate by Vasily Grossman) when this happened:

https://archive.org/details/i-exit-the-building

Posted by: 13times at November 08, 2026 10:52 AM (fnZRl)

151 self destructive addiction to Harlan Ellison?

So that's what happened to me.


And to Harlan Ellison.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 08, 2026 10:52 AM (vTZFs)

152 For those whose local public libraries don't hold classic works, or anything but chick lit and woke drivel, 2 suggestions:

1. Ask about inter-library loan
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This. All public libraries here in NC have a loan program. The entirety of the catalogs can be searched, and a loan to the local arranged.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 10:53 AM (XeU6L)

153 Sabrina,
Thanks for the Bloom County cartoon. Overdue books were considered a near mortal sin when I was a kid. I still feel that way. I think the overdue fee was a penny a day back in the 50s. Most of the librarians knew my grandmother from childhood. That got me some latitude when I wanted something form the adult section. . . .
Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026


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When I was ten, I asked for a copy of The Werewolf of Paris by Guy Endore. The librarian peered at me, then at my mother. "Are you sure he should be reading stuff like that?" Mom shrugged. "He reads everything."

The book bored me at ten. When I read it again at thirty, I found it kind of slow except for a slam-bang final scene. It's not really a horror novel.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:54 AM (56Qyq)

154 I have a similar one, a Pocket Books reprint of one of the early Nero Wolfe novels. "Not one word has been omitted."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:38 AM (56Qyq)

Yeah, that's what one of the books says.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 10:55 AM (1Ff7Z)

155 "In the future, Utopian eco-terrorist spacers (or "holocaustronauts") subjected the planet to vicious pummeling with directed space rocks to bring it back into balance."

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Pre-historic warfare: chuck rocks at each other.

Future interplanetary warfare: chuck rocks at each other.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 08, 2026 10:55 AM (oXmUJ)

156 Naturalfake, what kind of poetry are you reading?

Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 10:55 AM (3j87q)

157 Don't forget about us.
Posted by: The 1943 steel pennies
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Pfft, lightweights.

Posted by: Silver nickels at November 08, 2026 10:56 AM (XeU6L)

158 I guess I need to give a bit more detail. I'm steelmanning some tropes I absolutely despise, and having a lot of fun doing so.
Take the loathsome "Banished from the party" trope. Instead of an author failing to work through being picked last as a kid, the characters who have been depending on each other for years are friends, and have more emotional maturity than gradeschoolers.
I also reject romantasy. There's romance. Quite a lot of it, actually. But it's much more of the True Love variety. They will, they do, and they're ride-or-die.

If you're interested, I'll see you there!
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Sounds fascinating!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:56 AM (56Qyq)

159 self destructive addiction to Harlan Ellison?

So that's what happened to me.

And to Harlan Ellison.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 08, 2026 10:52 AM (vTZFs)


Do you mean Harlan Ellison always had to be "Harlan Ellison"?

Maybe.

Could be why I don't usually find his late stuff as interesting as his early stuff.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 10:56 AM (YSUhf)

160 University libraries are generally the least attractive (utilitarian) places, often with poor librarian service, but on the good side, they often boast the most outstanding collections! I love them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 10:57 AM (l6BsO)

161 For some years I would occasionally see an acquaintance who was married with two daughters. They were all clearly politically liberal. I would politely inquire about his daughters and at some point one of them was in college to get a degree in Library Science. Okay. Seems a bit anachronistic, but whatever.
The next time I ran into him she was getting a Master's degree in Library Science. So, going down the Professional Student path it seemed.
At some point she was in England doing a semester abroad about Library Science and who knows, maybe a doctorate degree. I briefly met her once at a sporting event and she didn't do anything to make herself attractive.
Since retirement I've fallen out of touch with him, but it seemed as if she was on a path of intentional spinsterhood.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 10:58 AM (0o1lz)

162 University libraries are generally the least attractive (utilitarian) places, often with poor librarian service, but on the good side, they often boast the most outstanding collections! I love them.
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Being able to borrow from the library, as well as being able to attend classes at night with a tuition waiver, were the two big perks of my college work life.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 10:58 AM (56Qyq)

163 Chucking space rocks, like in Footfall by Niven and pournelle? :wink:

Posted by: Funsize at November 08, 2026 10:58 AM (3j87q)

164 MP4, I finished Ten Thousand Midnights. great job. Left a highly complimentary review on Good Reads. I hope it is a rousing success. Started Jane Eyre and I'm enjoying it as much as I did Pride and Prejudice. Should have been reading these ladies all along. Also, it feels like I'm starting on one of my periodical poetry sprees. It started because I started dipping into the Modern Library's collection of Irish literature that is mostly poetry and then i picked up the Library of America's volume of Robert Frost.
I loved the local library branch but when I hit about 6th grade and could bike or bus it downtown to the main library, that was heaven. I loved prowling the stacks in the old library. Unfortunately it was replaced with a soulless brick pile in the 70s or early 80s. In my new hometown they just rebuilt the library but I haven't been there in years because my TBR pile is too big to add more books.

Posted by: Who Knew at November 08, 2026 10:59 AM (+ViXu)

165 As a child I was habitually in hoc to the library. Finally, they put me to work, "volunteering". I loved it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 11:00 AM (l6BsO)

166 Sadly I can't write well. So I read! You gotta do what you enjoy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 11:02 AM (l6BsO)

167 130 ... "The new Guite volume, The Coming of Arthur, arrived a week earlier...

Huh. I'm still waiting."

naturalfake,
I preordered the fancy version with the slip case and the regular edition. The slip case edition arrived early. Still waiting for the standard version which will be released tomorrow. If you enjoyed Galahad and the Grail you will love this one. I also have the audiobook on CD coming in December. Guite narrates it and he is always a delight to listen to as well as read. I get the books directly from Rabbit Room Press, the publisher. The Audio CD is only available from Amazon as far as I know.

BTW,
I just heard that the fourth volume will be primarily about Merlin. That should be fascinating.

Glad you're reading more poetry. That is becoming an increasing amount of my reading, from classics to the Psalms to Guite, Wendell Berry and Mary Oliver.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 11:06 AM (yTvNw)

168 "The library at the college where I worked for so many years (and from which library I had borrowing privileges!) was multi-story and used the Library of Congress system rather than the Dewey Decimal setup I grew up with."

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I vastly prefer the LoC system. But I don't know why. Maybe just familiarity? Anyone know the pros and cons of each?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 08, 2026 11:06 AM (oXmUJ)

169 Do you guys listen to music while perusing the thread? Classical California airs "A Joyful Noise" on Sunday mornings.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 11:07 AM (kpS4V)

170 On my father's recommendation I switched from old western novels this week into "Allies At War", by Tim Bouverie. He's a young Brit historian and the book is an engrossing study of the WW2 allied coalition leadership as they fought Hitler and each other. Very readable history.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 11:08 AM (88ITP)

171 The library at my alma mater is well-known for having a single-seater unisex bathroom on the third floor that, due to the mysteries of architecture and construction, was large enough that one could have a ping-pong table and a pool table in there with ample room for both games to be played at once.

Being a single-seater it had a dead bolt on the door. It was often used by more than one underclassman at a time and for purposes not involving using the toilet.

Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026 11:08 AM (oqH4h)

172 I vastly prefer the LoC system. But I don't know why. Maybe just familiarity? Anyone know the pros and cons of each?
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 08, 2026


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The DD system is for non-fiction; fiction is shelved alphabetically by author, and maybe subdivided into genre, but fiction books don't have a DD number. The LoC encompasses both fiction and non-fiction.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:09 AM (56Qyq)

173 By the way, many thanks to Sabrina for the positive post about librarians. Usually we get trashed here, and for good reason. I've been in academic libraries for almost 30 years (and yet, am nowhere near being able to retire). In my experience, the field has always leaned left. But as a baby cataloger, I was trained to represent resources as they present themselves and not put my opinions into my metadata. We would even delete reviews or publisher blurbs from records if present. In collection development we talked about balanced collections including multiple points of view.

From my perspective, it was COVID that destroyed the last vestiges of objectivity (especially for the ALA). I saw librarians on social media trashing anyone who dared to even search for information contradicting the official narrative. Instead of teaching people how to search, how to evaluate sources, and collecting/preserving resources covering many viewpoints, they became arbiters and enforcers of truth.

I'm probably too old to leave the field entirely, but I no longer go to any conferences except my systems user group, nor do I participate in any "professional" organizations.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:10 AM (lOlUK)

174 Being a single-seater it had a dead bolt on the door. It was often used by more than one underclassman at a time and for purposes not involving using the toilet.
Posted by: ballistic at November 08, 2026


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We had one of those at Faber. Ask me how I know.
( -- Eric "Otter" Stratton)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:10 AM (56Qyq)

175 If I had to pick peak Harlan Ellison, the list would include the following. In no particular order of importance, and just off the top of my head so I'm no doubt omitting some goodies here:

Shatterday
Paladin of the Lost Hour
Jeffty Is Five
Pretty Maggie Moneyeyes
The Resurgence of Miss Ankle Strap Wedgie
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
One Life Furnished in Early Poverty
Tired Old Man
All the Lies That Are My Life

When Harlan was cookin', he COOKED.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:12 AM (q3u5l)

176 In my second stint at university there was a sexy librarian in the special collections unit. I worked with her trying to dig up some old books and then applied to work with her hoping to get closer. She had no openings but pushed me to apply for a work-study gig at the main desk, and then she was promoted to run the whole library and I got my wish to work directly for her anyway. Unfortunately, that is also when I found out she was married.

Posted by: Who Knew at November 08, 2026 11:13 AM (+ViXu)

177 The only reason to go to a public library now is to get a library card so you can watch free movies on Hoopla.

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2026 11:13 AM (OXhw3)

178 Lucky that the city library system here still is pretty good, and the branches normal, not homeless-afflicted. Inter-library lending is great with some universities included. I've been impressed with how obscure I can get (WWII history) before they don't have something.

Currently half way through final book of John McManus' trilogy on the Army in the Pacific. It's been very good. I've come to be more amused than annoyed by his need to insert stuff about segregation and black units even where marginal to the story - I wish he'd just turn his talents to a book about blacks in the WWII Army overall, that would be interesting. It's probably me being just a little too demanding, but the juxtaposition of the ritualized references to racism in the US situation with the sort of basic almost understated references to what were the barbaric, bestial depredations of the Japanese - suffused with a genocidal aggressive sort of racism, not inertial social prejudice as in the US case - just leaves me shaking my head sometimes.

McManus is too old to have been warped in his formative years by the jaw-dropping resurgent racism of the last few decades, but maybe some osmosis.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2026 11:14 AM (U/Byj)

179 I dated the sister of a librarian. Does that count?

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2026 11:15 AM (OXhw3)

180 Add to the peak Harlan Ellison list:

"Repent, Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman
Alive and Well and on a Friendless Voyage
A Boy and His Dog

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at November 08, 2026 11:15 AM (28xGL)

181 For those interested in Malcolm Guite's Galahad and the Grail epic poem. The Rabbit Room has a YT channel and just released a 30 minute documentary about writing and illustrating the book, named "MERLIN'S ISLE: The Tale This Land Still Keeps". It shows Guite and Crotts touring the areas where the legends took place. It is beautiful with a gorgeous soundtrack. Worth many times the half hour length. I've watched it several times.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 11:16 AM (yTvNw)

182 . . . When Harlan was cookin', he COOKED.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026


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"Jeffty" is amazing. And I have "Resurgence," along with other non-SF or fantasy stories, in a paperback collection, Love Ain't Nothing But Sex Misspelled. I got him to autograph it when he was lecturing one night in '98 at a Denver college. He gave me a sharp look, like "How come this cheap bastard isn't buying one of my *new* books?", but he signed -- that and my copy of Memos From Purgatory.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:16 AM (56Qyq)

183 I vastly prefer the LoC system. But I don't know why. Maybe just familiarity? Anyone know the pros and cons of each?
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto
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The underlying philosophy is entirely different. Melville Dewey wanted to create a system that could accommodate all possible knowledge, even subject areas that didn't exist yet.

The LC system is based on "literary warrant." That is, you don't create a class number or subject heading until you've got a book (or other resource) on that subject. Its development is more haphazard. This is also how you get headings like "Boating with cats." Yes, there is a book on that.

Both systems get a bad rap from the progressive catalogers because they're too white, Western-centric, etc.

I've spent my whole career in academic libraries, except for 6 months moonlighting in a public library. I vastly prefer LC to Dewey. (And he was a giant asshole to boot. Got kicked out of the professional organization he helped found.)

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:16 AM (lOlUK)

184 Never worked directly with the Library of Congress system; the libraries I worked in used Dewey. IIRC, you can get a much more specific subject breakdown in LoC than you'll get with Dewey. If I had to organize a huge university library, I think LoC would be appropriate. Most public and most college libraries probably aren't housing such large collections, so most can probably get by with Dewey. YMMV.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:16 AM (q3u5l)

185 Fiction can be found in Dewey Decimal's 800 section - Literature

many libraries have a 2-tier approach; ephemeral (current) fiction as fiction (F), classics, writers who have stood the test of time, (8xx)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 08, 2026 11:17 AM (VyBeY)

186 Fiction can be found in Dewey Decimal's 800 section - Literature

many libraries have a 2-tier approach; ephemeral (current) fiction as fiction (F), classics, writers who have stood the test of time, (8xx)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 08, 2026


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That must have been what I was thinking of. At the public library, I mostly haunted, and still do, the current and recent fiction shelves. (Back then, they counted "recent" as thirty-forty years old, so modern novels sat next to Ellery Queens from 1929 to the present.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:20 AM (56Qyq)

187 To be fair the LCC system created 25 years after the Dewey system. You would expect it to be superior.

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2026 11:21 AM (OXhw3)

188 The only reason to go to a public library now is to get a library card so you can watch free movies on Hoopla.
Posted by: polynikes
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Heh. I have shifted all of my book reading to library books. I just can *not* acquire any more books. I'm in the painful process of parting with my overwhelming collection.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:24 AM (XeU6L)

189 96 In college one of my friends had a visit from a hometown high school buddy -- who spoke about himself entirely in the third person. Nice enough guy but very weird to listen to.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026 10:03 AM (78a2H)
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Bob Dole doesn't understand why this would be weird.

Posted by: Bob Dole at November 08, 2026 11:26 AM (xg/DD)

190 I have shifted all of my book reading to library books. . . .
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026


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As have I. If I don't know an author's work, and know that I like it a *lot*, a new book -- even paperback -- is too expensive to take a chance on. I want to read it first from the library. If I love it, then I'll buy a copy to keep and re-read.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:26 AM (56Qyq)

191 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:24 AM (XeU6L)

I guess that's why people get e-books now. I can't seem to join that group yet though.

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2026 11:26 AM (OXhw3)

192 Wolfus,

Sitting on my shelf is a signed copy of the hardcover of Love Ain't Nothing but Sex Misspelled. The contents vary considerably from those of the later paperback reprint (if memory serves the intro to the paperback explained the reshuffling). Harlan was and still is one of my favorites; found some of his collections uneven, but there was always enough good stuff there to make me glad to lay down the $$$.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:26 AM (q3u5l)

193 All Hail Eris - Thanks for the tip. Listening as we speak...well, chat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:27 AM (XeU6L)

194 In college one of my friends had a visit from a hometown high school buddy -- who spoke about himself entirely in the third person. Nice enough guy but very weird to listen to.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 08, 2026
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Bob Dole doesn't understand why this would be weird.
Posted by: Bob Dole at November 08, 2026


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Neither does Jimmy.
(-- Obligatory Seinfeld reference)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:27 AM (56Qyq)

195 I guess that's why people get e-books now. I can't seem to join that group yet though.
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Same here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:28 AM (XeU6L)

196 I guess that's why people get e-books now. I can't seem to join that group yet though.
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Same here. As JTB said above, I spend enough time looking at a damn screen.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:29 AM (56Qyq)

197 Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:16 AM (lOlUK)

Our local branch librarians are all helpful and seemingly neutral. The 'children's story time' lady is excellent and loved by parents and their children. And thanks for lending your expertise to our humble thread.

Posted by: 13times at November 08, 2026 11:29 AM (fnZRl)

198 As a young Beartooth, I always looked forward to the mobile library that would make the rounds once a month.

You never knew what new adventures you would discover once you climbed aboard. Later, I learned you could order your books from the main library downtown and they would appear in the mobile library.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 08, 2026 11:30 AM (FuXG7)

199 I did a quick pull on "Dewey Decimal vs Library of Congress System" and without viewing any videos, it looks like some institutions are switching over to LoC, and also that Dewey Decimal is racist, sexist, and colonizing, because of course.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 11:30 AM (kpS4V)

200 Are we there yet … ?

Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 11:31 AM (ayRl+)

201 All Hail Eris, I always listen to music while reading the thread. Wisconsin Public Radio Music classical fits right in with the thread.

Posted by: Who Knew at November 08, 2026 11:32 AM (+ViXu)

202 Did anyone make an obligatory Tolkien reference?

Or is this the obligatory Tolkien reference?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 11:32 AM (kpS4V)

203 Are we there yet … ?
Posted by: Dr_No at November 08, 2026 11:31 AM (ayRl+)

Gonna have to leave, though. Wife wants to go to work early. She just doesn't get the book thread!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 11:33 AM (1Ff7Z)

204 . . . From my perspective, it was COVID that destroyed the last vestiges of objectivity (especially for the ALA). I saw librarians on social media trashing anyone who dared to even search for information contradicting the official narrative. Instead of teaching people how to search, how to evaluate sources, and collecting/preserving resources covering many viewpoints, they became arbiters and enforcers of truth. . . .

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026


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Yes. You'd have thought that librarians, knowledgeable (or should be) about information vs. false information, and about liberty vs. tyranny, would have held the line on that nonsense. Instead it was face diapers, "Stay Home and Stay Safe!", and "You request the book and we'll bring it out to you, gloved and masked" all the way down.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:33 AM (56Qyq)

205 202 Did anyone make an obligatory Tolkien reference?

Or is this the obligatory Tolkien reference?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 11:32 AM (kpS4V)
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Not before Second Breakfast.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeper at November 08, 2026 11:34 AM (xg/DD)

206 Granted I haven't been inside a public library in 20 years so my current perception of one is a homeless encampment with the occasional tranny led readings to groups of children.

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2026 11:34 AM (OXhw3)

207 I worked in a small public and in a community college library, and we used Dewey. People often seemed to find call numbers annoying enough after they got more than 3 digits after the decmial point -- can't imagine what they'd think of some of the LoC call numbers.

If institutions are switching because the collections are large enough to justify it, peachy keen. If they're doing it because Dewey is racist etc, bleep 'em.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:35 AM (q3u5l)

208 Not before Second Breakfast.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeper at November 08, 2026


***
Hobbits must have had a hell of a metabolism to burn off all that chow without getting fat. Or maybe they worked hard in their gardens or something.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:35 AM (56Qyq)

209 also that Dewey Decimal is racist, sexist, and colonizing, because of course.
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Just when you think that those people have breached the last bastion of rational thought.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:35 AM (XeU6L)

210 59 ... ""Sand and Sensibility: A Jane Austen-style Romantic Adventure.""

Had to smile at the title. Immediately thought of Annette and Frankie Avalon beach movies.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026 11:35 AM (yTvNw)

211 In my younger years I was very fortunate to tag slong on a tour of the Rare Books Collection at the LoC in Washington. They have a Gutenburg Bible there, as I recall. It's a bit overwhelming to see the history of civilization in books right in front of you.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 08, 2026 11:35 AM (8zt2q)

212 I did a quick pull on "Dewey Decimal vs Library of Congress System" and without viewing any videos, it looks like some institutions are switching over to LoC, and also that Dewey Decimal is racist, sexist, and colonizing, because of course.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 11:30 AM (kpS4V)

We need to create the AOSHQ Binary System of classification for books.

AOSHQ 0: this book is crap

AOSHQ 1: this is worth reading.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2026 11:37 AM (yky4J)

213 Not before Second Breakfast.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes
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Elevenses?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:38 AM (XeU6L)

214 ""Sand and Sensibility: A Jane Austen-style Romantic Adventure.""

Had to smile at the title. Immediately thought of Annette and Frankie Avalon beach movies.
Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2026


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That'd be an interesting take on Austen: "Beach Party" characters involved in the same kind of relationships as in PaP or SaS. Sort of like modern dress versions of Shakespeare.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:38 AM (56Qyq)

215 Immediately thought of Annette and Frankie Avalon beach movies.
Posted by: JTB
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Beach Blanket Bango?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:39 AM (XeU6L)

216 Beach Blanket Bango?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:39 AM (XeU6L)

I'm imagine a lot of heaving bosom references.

Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2026 11:42 AM (OXhw3)

217 I did a quick pull on "Dewey Decimal vs Library of Congress System" and without viewing any videos, it looks like some institutions are switching over to LoC, and also that Dewey Decimal is racist, sexist, and colonizing, because of course.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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Dewey himself was anti-Semitic and had a reputation for harassing female colleagues.

LC is a much better fit for academic library collections. There are some academic libraries that still use Dewey. Duke was one of the few large research libraries using Dewey until about 20 years ago. They didn't reclassify their entire collection, but anything acquired since then is in LC.

There are a handful of Dewey libraries in the institutions I work with. Fortunately I haven't been asked to train anybody in Dewey cataloging (yet). The only time I have to interact with DDC is when I get asked to generate reports based on Dewey class numbers.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:44 AM (lOlUK)

218 The AoSHQ classification system sounds good these days. In keeping with Sturgeon's Law, I'm guessing that the 0s will considerably outnumber the 1s.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:45 AM (q3u5l)

219 214 ""Sand and Sensibility: A Jane Austen-style Romantic Adventure.""

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeper at November 08, 2026 11:45 AM (xg/DD)

220 Sounds like a gritty read....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeper at November 08, 2026 11:46 AM (xg/DD)

221 202 Did anyone make an obligatory Tolkien reference?

Or is this the obligatory Tolkien reference?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 08, 2026 11:32 AM (kpS4V)

Not one mention of Star Trek (TOS)! (8:45 a.m.)

Posted by: 13times at November 08, 2026 11:46 AM (fnZRl)

222 " not a soulless industrial concrete outrage with not a single comfy chair or reading nook! "

Sounds like the Theodore Geisel Library at UCSD.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 08, 2026 11:47 AM (LOvBA)

223 Our local branch librarians are all helpful and seemingly neutral. The 'children's story time' lady is excellent and loved by parents and their children. And thanks for lending your expertise to our humble thread.
Posted by: 13times
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That's awesome! There are some librarians out there who still hold to the principle of neutrality.

Thank you, I'm available for parties and gatherings :-)

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:48 AM (lOlUK)

224 'Bout time I started heading toward the chores list. Thanks to Sabrina and all of our regulars, lurkers, and new posters for a fine Book Thread!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:48 AM (56Qyq)

225 It is now time for me to get on with the rest of my Sunday tasks, so the Book Thread is now supervision-free! Do not set the place on fire or the librarian will shush you.

I am happy to report that I just finished the rough draft of my next book, Red Wolf: Defender! Now comes the hard part of writing--editing and cleaning up. But there will be a new book coming!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 08, 2026 11:49 AM (tY90Q)

226 Thanks for the thread, Sabrina.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:49 AM (q3u5l)

227 Yes. You'd have thought that librarians, knowledgeable (or should be) about information vs. false information, and about liberty vs. tyranny, would have held the line on that nonsense. Instead it was face diapers, "Stay Home and Stay Safe!", and "You request the book and we'll bring it out to you, gloved and masked" all the way down.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Yep. The upside for me is that's what got me off social media for good. And COVID, along with a job change in 2022, gave me an unexpected opportunity to quietly exit the ALA for good.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:50 AM (lOlUK)

228 Ten minutes left in the thread and we're unsupervised?

What sort of pranks and mischief can we get into in that short time?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:51 AM (q3u5l)

229 Bob Dole doesn't understand why this would be weird.
Posted by: Bob Dole at November 08, 2026

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Neither does Jimmy.
(-- Obligatory Seinfeld reference)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 11:27 AM
+++

George is getting upset!

Posted by: George Costanza at November 08, 2026 11:52 AM (0o1lz)

230 Just downloaded a few Pat Buchanan books on my Kindle. I forgot how readable he is. I've read many WWI and WWII books but I overlooked how negligent British and American policies were during this era.

Very timely and prescient as America enters the terminal waking nightmare decade.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 08, 2026 11:52 AM (qwx/I)

231 173 ... From my perspective, it was COVID that destroyed the last vestiges of objectivity (especially for the ALA). I saw librarians on social media trashing anyone who dared to even search for information contradicting the official narrative. Instead of teaching people how to search, how to evaluate sources, and collecting/preserving resources covering many viewpoints, they became arbiters and enforcers of truth.
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I second everything you wrote here, screaming in digital. I was enjoying my career in public library reference and expected to die in harness ... until COVID. Madness devoured my colleagues, and I retired as early as possible and fled to south Florida. Now I'm chief volunteer at our little retirement-community library, and focus on trying to buy new thrillers and romances my neighbors will read. It was the right thing to do.

Posted by: werewife, princess of Delray Beach at November 08, 2026 11:53 AM (5ayY3)

232
What sort of pranks and mischief can we get into in that short time?
Posted by: Just Some Guy
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What happens in the stacks, stays in the stacks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:54 AM (XeU6L)

233 That's awesome! There are some librarians out there who still hold to the principle of neutrality.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:48 AM (lOlUK)

And this is in the North Sacramento Valley. So, all is not lost!

Posted by: 13times at November 08, 2026 11:54 AM (fnZRl)

234 I'm imagine a lot of heaving bosom references.
Posted by: polynikes at November 08, 2026 11:42 AM

"pronounced hooterage"

Posted by: AOSHQ Style Guide at November 08, 2026 11:54 AM (0o1lz)

235 I've read many WWI and WWII books but I overlooked how negligent British and American policies were during this era.

Very timely and prescient as America enters the terminal waking nightmare decade.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
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Churchill's 'The Gathering Storm', a must-read, in that regard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 11:56 AM (XeU6L)

236 I retired as early as possible and fled to south Florida. Now I'm chief volunteer at our little retirement-community library, and focus on trying to buy new thrillers and romances my neighbors will read. It was the right thing to do.
Posted by: werewife
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Excellent! I can't retire anytime soon, if ever. But I've got a job that allows me to ignore most of the nonsense. I don't have the nonsense of having faculty status at a university anymore. I still get to do all the stuff that's in my wheelhouse.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 08, 2026 11:57 AM (lOlUK)

237 >>"pronounced hooterage"

But is it pronounced: hoo-tair-azh?

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 11:57 AM (NcvvS)

238 Have thought about revisiting Mark Steyn's America Alone and Lights Out, but that may be too depressing a prospect even for me.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 11:58 AM (q3u5l)

239 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 11:59 AM (NcvvS)

240 No! Not yet!

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 11:59 AM (NcvvS)

241 I finished Philip K Dick's Clans of the Alphane Moon which was panned as a book about nothing really, and for not being a core of his perennial question of what is reality and how do you recognize when it happens.

Ostensibly it is the story of a CIA propagandist, Chuck Rittersdorf, being divorced by his psychologist wife, Mary, and being forced to participate by remote android in a move by the world government to try to reclaim an abandoned moon that had a mental hospital on it, but now has been colonized by the former patients, an expedition in which his wife is participating in. Which gives him a chance to kill her.
All while taking a job writing for a popular comedy/variety show.
The clans are divided by mental disorders from hebephrenics to manics, and have strengths of their conditions
It is a review of really messed up people making bad decisions and pretending what their inclinations to act are being guided by incomplete information. It is sort of a review of mental health as a practice from an "end user" but it does have charming characters like the Ganymean Slime-mold named Lord Running Clam, and Bunny Hentman, comedian and renegade.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2026 12:00 PM (rbvCR)

242 Don't think I went into a library until I went to college (none around where I grew up), and yet I had read 100's of books by then. Have no idea how I did it, other than indulgent parents. And mail order.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 08, 2026 12:00 PM (QaH55)

243 Now, nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 12:00 PM (NcvvS)

244 And off to mess things up here at Casa Some Guy.

Thanks again, Sabrina.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2026 12:01 PM (q3u5l)

245 That's my line

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)

246 NOOD

GOPe



rant from CBD

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 08, 2026 12:04 PM (PgV1+)

247 Software testers are *vastly* underappreciated.

Posted by: Ranten N. Raven at November 08, 2026 12:09 PM (8YAVU)

248 Have thought about revisiting Mark Steyn's America Alone and Lights Out, but that may be too depressing a prospect even for me.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
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Heh. Try the much-touted (by me) 'A Conservative History of the American Left', Flynn

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2026 12:13 PM (XeU6L)

249 The wages of night shift…late to the party. But do I ever love that pic above from The Mummy. Better than it deserves to be and it was also the point I began crushing on Rachel Weisz…

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2026 12:43 PM (XTrBf)

250 230 Just downloaded a few Pat Buchanan books on my Kindle. I forgot how readable he is. I've read many WWI and WWII books but I overlooked how negligent British and American policies were during this era.

Very timely and prescient as America enters the terminal waking nightmare decade.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 08, 2026 11:52 AM (qwx/I)

Buchanan called Stalin a genius politician. I knew Buchanan was a blithering idiot before that, but that really took the cake.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2026 01:25 PM (XTrBf)

251 @158 Wolfus
Hope you enjoy!

Posted by: Rufus at November 08, 2026 02:07 PM (vZ3Ex)

252 masameer "clearance" episode 2, season 3. mazin is badass.

Posted by: cmeat at November 09, 2026 01:56 PM (Bep7s)

Daily Tech News 8 November 2026

Top Story

  • AMD's Zen 6 cores aren't quite here yet but benchmarks of engineering samples are leaking out and it looks like what we hoped to see with Zen 5. (WCCFTech)

    Compared with a 12-core Zen 5 Ryzen 370, the unnamed 10-core sample is 32% faster on single-threaded tasks - a huge jump for a single generation - and 21% faster multi-threaded despite having two fewer cores.

    If the leaks that Zen 6 will have 50% more cores are true and its per-core performance is 30% faster, that will put desktop parts at nearly twice the performance of Zen 5.

    We don't know how many graphics cores will ship in the laptop parts, but benchmarks of the same engineering sample's four-core integrated GPU placed it a little ahead of the current 860M's eight cores thanks to an update to the newer RDNA4 architecture used in AMD's 9000-series graphics cards.

    All in all a solid advance arriving at a time when nobody can afford the hardware to go with it. Good for people running on older AMD hardware - or even those sitting on Intel systems with DDR5 memory.


Tech News

  • Speaking of Intel, the company's new Nova Lake desktop chips will start arriving early next year, though the high-end 52-core parts might be nearly a year away. And then in 2028, it will be followed by Razor Lake. (WCCFTech)

    For which we have no details at all except that it will fit on the same motherboards.


  • 8GB is the new 16GB says Microsoft. (Windows Latest)

    I plugged in my old laptop with its 8GB of RAM and powered it up, and it... Worked just fine actually, but was using 75% of its RAM by the time it reached the Windows desktop. We'll see if the improvements make it useful or if it's time to put Linux on it.


  • Speaking of which Electron must die and probably will. (Windows Latest)

    Tests of Discord's new desktop app - which moves from Electron to native Windows code written in Rust - reduces the app's memory footprint by 70%.

    That is the sort of thing that can make an 8GB laptop useable.


  • Claude Code will put passwords you give it into files inside your code repository and commit the files to GitHub... Sometimes. (Apiiro)

    Only 1% of the repositories checked are affected, but there are a lot of such repositories.


  • Are the impressive coding test scores on some AI models are result of "teaching to test" - developers training the model to answer known test questions rather than the much harder task of improving the model generally? It will surprise few to learn that the answer is often yes. (MaxxBench)

    Tests that changed the questions did not much faze Claude and ChatGPT, but Chinese models like DeepSeek and Qwen fell off a cliff.


  • Figured out what those 8" iron staples were used for, and also why I didn't work it out earlier. The ones I found last year in the first stage of the garden project were twisted and mangled as if they had been pulled out of something and discarded.

    The one I discovered yesterday buried straight down in hard clay was still fulfilling its duty - pinning down a tree root that was close to the surface.

    So I'll need to work around them (and the roots) rather than dig them out.


Musical Interlude






Disclaimer: Living in the fridge.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




Comments

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 04:01 AM (C6GAH)

2 I see 04:00 isn't happening exactly at 04:00, again.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 04:02 AM (O7YUW)

3 Your job to drop the NOOD in the ONT, Biden's Dog.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 04:03 AM (O7YUW)

4 Disclaimer: Living in the fridge.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM
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No better way to extend your shelf life!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 04:03 AM (C6GAH)

5 Your job to drop the NOOD in the ONT, Biden's Dog.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 04:03 AM (O7YUW)
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I don't do Windows noods.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 04:04 AM (C6GAH)

6 Morning from the East Coast where i'm visiting mom for her 91st birthday. Not much QoL but she enjoyed having her kids with her. Somehow it's after 4 a.m. Flying home this evening.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatl at November 08, 2026 04:20 AM (xn+sS)

7 >> I see 04:00 isn't happening exactly at 04:00, again.

Time runs differently Down Under. The greatest scientific minds in the world are at a loss to explain.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 04:23 AM (w6EFb)

8 @7/publius:

Daaaaad, the Koala ate my scheduler!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 04:24 AM (O7YUW)

9 w00t late

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 04:35 AM (odBC9)

10 >>>Figured out what those 8" iron staples were used for

cool

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 04:42 AM (odBC9)

11 Mornin' m.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 04:42 AM (O7YUW)

12 11 Mornin' m.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 04:42 AM (O7YUW)

Well-nooded!

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 04:48 AM (odBC9)

13 Chesterton's staples...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 08, 2026 04:56 AM (iIyc0)

14 It's been wild watching the "minimum/recommended" standard of memory change over the years, but the recent (and quite sudden) retreat back to 8 gigs from 64 (possibly even 128 gigs) is ... disturbing.

C'mon bubble, pop already.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 05:01 AM (O7YUW)

15 G'Day everyone
Can't get up this late tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 05:18 AM (Ia/+0)

16 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 08, 2026 05:27 AM (Iz+f5)

17 13 Chesterton's staples...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 08, 2026 04:56 AM (iIyc0)

Exactly!

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 05:42 AM (odBC9)

18 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at November 08, 2026 05:51 AM (V0/Sp)

19 17 13 Chesterton's staples...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 08, 2026 04:56 AM (iIyc0)

Exactly!
Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 05:42 AM (odBC9)

And the walls come tumblin' down!

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 05:52 AM (odBC9)

20 >>> Chesterton's staples

He got around

Posted by: fluffy at November 08, 2026 05:53 AM (V0/Sp)

21 Evening and morning for this first -- no, wait, the second Sunday in this November! So we're going to have a Friday the 13th this week. Not bothering me; I've never had any worse luck on a Friday 13 than I have any other day, and no better luck either.

What's goin' on?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 05:57 AM (56Qyq)

22 Dreamed that I was working as a courier again in a van for FedEx or a similar corporation. On my first day with two other new guys, we immediately fell behind on deliveries because we kept getting in traffic jams caused by other people's accidents. When we at last got back to the terminal, the big brass -- who seemed all to look like glossy Fox News-type women -- called us in to interrogate us about it. It went on and on, until I realized they had called in a second team of questioners, to wear us down.

In the dream I was retired and didn't need the job. I stood up and told the brass it was my fault, not my co-workers', to try to save their jobs. Then I woke up -- so I have no idea if my "Spartacus" moment worked.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 06:03 AM (56Qyq)

23 Chesterton, G. K.
(1874–1936), English essayist, novelist, and critic; full name Gilbert Keith Chesterton.

His novels include The Napoleon of Notting Hill (1904) and a series of detective stories featuring Father Brown, a priest with a talent for crime detection.

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 06:05 AM (odBC9)

24

https://www.chesterton.org

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 06:07 AM (odBC9)

25 Do check out Venus, just looked and it's bright as a mofo just over the horizon now about an hour before sunrise. You'll note a star close by and that's Spica.

Posted by: Publius on Stupid Phone at November 08, 2026 06:08 AM (w6EFb)

26 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Fridge ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 08, 2026 06:09 AM (amcLV)

27 There were a whole slew of people with cameras and telescopes in a local park looking at Venus and the slim crescent moon.
Stellarium pointed out to me Jupiter and Mars way up in the sky.

Posted by: Accomack at November 08, 2026 06:13 AM (T1QkV)

28 uh-oh ...

Steven Victor ***Tallarico*** (born March 26, 194, known professionally as Steven Tyler, is an American singer and songwriter. Tyler is best known as the lead singer of the Boston-based rock band Aerosmith

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 06:13 AM (odBC9)

29 The 1958 film version of Mailer's The Naked and the Dead, with Cliff Robertson and Raymond Massey, is on Movies! There's a metric ton of other familiar faces, like William (Squire of Gothos) Campbell, Joey Bishop, and Aldo Ray.

IMDb says Mailer called it the worst movie he'd ever seen.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 06:16 AM (56Qyq)

30 Steven Victor ***Tallarico*** (born March 26, 1948 ), known professionally as Steven Tyler, is an American singer and songwriter. Tyler is best known as the lead singer of the Boston-based rock band Aerosmith
Posted by: m at November 08, 2026


***
To me he's best known as the father of the beautiful Liv Tyler.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 06:17 AM (56Qyq)

31 Its not Venus, its a UFO

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 06:18 AM (Ia/+0)

32 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 08, 2026 06:18 AM (JbKjK)

33 31 Its not Venus, its a UFO
Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 06:18 AM (Ia/+0)

Venus, make her fair
A lovely girl with sunlight in her hair
And take the brightest stars up in the skies
And place them in her eyes for me

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 06:20 AM (odBC9)

34 Amazin': It's 55 F., a 9 mph NNE wind giving a "wind chill" of 53. Very nice workout weather! And temps are not supposed to exceed 75 all week. Perhaps it's time to clay and hand-wax the car.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 06:22 AM (56Qyq)

35 G'morning. all!

48.0 degrees out, a sharp 11.8 degree drop from this time yesterday morning.

Mrs VIA completed her 5K yesterday morning with a respectable 3rd place finish in her age group, and in the top 30% overall with runners who are much younger than her 29 years of age.

On the technical side, upgrading the LED fence lighting around the perimeter of the back yard requires me to splice in a 27" length of wire going up the face of the fence to go from the ground mounted low voltage feed wire to the top of the fence mounted lights. There are only 12 of them so I should finish after church today.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 08, 2026 06:22 AM (iMotb)

36 35 Mrs VIA completed her 5K yesterday morning with a respectable 3rd place finish in her age group, and in the top 30% overall with runners who are much younger than her 29 years of age.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 08, 2026 06:22 AM (iMotb)

Yay, Mrs VIA!

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 06:23 AM (odBC9)

37 Mornin', Horde. 26 degrees, going up to 60, in Kentuckiana.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 06:25 AM (NcvvS)

38
You may be able to catch Mercury just over the horizon as well if you've got a nice unobstructed horizon. It's not going to get too high this morning cycle for us in the northern hemisphere, but you might catch it in a few days especially, 20th being the max, I think.

Mars and Jupiter conjunction will be the 15th.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:25 AM (w6EFb)

39 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 08, 2026 06:26 AM (VyBeY)

40
Yep, Venus alone gets many UFO reports. Also Sirius, when it gets to really twinkling with lots of reds and greens.

Now, get a conjunction of Venus and another bright planet, like Jupiter, and you get UFO reports galore.

There's an amazing number of people who have no idea what's in the sky, and when they see something bright like this, they get spooked.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:28 AM (w6EFb)

41 Yep, Venus alone gets many UFO reports. Also Sirius, when it gets to really twinkling with lots of reds and greens.
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Shirley, you can't be Sirius.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 08, 2026 06:29 AM (amcLV)

42 >>Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:25 AM (w6EFb)

We're on a hillside, with a lot of blockage all around, so we don't get to see much of the low stuff. OTOH, Venus with the crescent moon yesterday looked really good.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 06:30 AM (NcvvS)

43 40 ... There's an amazing number of people who have no idea what's in the sky, and when they see something bright like this, they get spooked.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:28 AM (w6EFb)

*raises hand*

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 06:30 AM (odBC9)

44 >>Shirley, you can't be Sirius.

Pick, pick, pick.

Posted by: Shirley at November 08, 2026 06:31 AM (NcvvS)

45
No chance here to see Mercury, getting too bright and the far tree line has raised the effective horizon too much.

I've seen Mercury a few times on the evening side, but I've never caught in on the morning side. Yet....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:35 AM (w6EFb)

46
Venus max brightness this time will be around Nov. 30th. It's got to get almost to -4.9 nearly as bright as possible, which is -4.92 (neglecting atmosphere). The orbital cycles have conspired to make this morning apparition nearly as close as Venus can get to Earth

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:40 AM (w6EFb)

47 Morning, all. Time to get up and walk. Then coffee, breakfast, and avoiding the family's obsession with reading/commenting aloud on the news, until it's time for church. (They're the kind of aging Republicans who intellectually 'know' the news is biased but still obsessively read it and swallow every calumny about Trump as if it were the Lord's Gospel. I need to pray for them more, I think.)

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 06:42 AM (YwYun)

48 Its not Venus, its a UFO
Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 06:18 AM (Ia/+0)


"Even the former leader of your United States of America, James Earl Carter Jr., thought he saw a UFO once. But it's been proven he only saw the planet Venus."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 06:46 AM (iIyc0)

49
The other ONT, somebody posted about a commander during Vietnam thought Venus was an incoming enemy aircraft and ordered AA to fire on it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:49 AM (w6EFb)

50 "and ordered AA to fire on it."

Did they hit it?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 08, 2026 06:51 AM (iMotb)

51
Venus also scrambled fighters at Los Alamos in 1945 during the run-up to the atomic bomb.

They were on high alert looking for any possible spy planes or balloons and such.

A pilot was killed in 1948 in another Venus incident. He climbed too high chasing it, and blacked out from hypoxia as he didn't have O2, and crashed.

The investigation concluded the object he was chasing was either Venus or a weather balloon.

Or, that's what MJ-12 wants us to believe..... (cue the X-Files theme).

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:58 AM (w6EFb)

52
All those incidents seem stupid, but when you're on high alert, it's very easy to get convinced that anything is the threat you're looking out for. Adrenaline does the rest.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 07:00 AM (w6EFb)

53 51 (cue the X-Files theme)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:58 AM (w6EFb)

For me, that inadvertently segues into the Jeopardy! theme.

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 07:00 AM (odBC9)

54 49 The other ONT, somebody posted about a commander during Vietnam thought Venus was an incoming enemy aircraft and ordered AA to fire on it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:49 AM (w6EFb)

AA = antiaircraft

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 07:01 AM (odBC9)

55
And finally, looking all these Venus incidents up, a very famous one was the USS New York in the Pacific in early 1945. They fired 300 rounds of AA at Venus, cranking up the altitude setting on the fuzes to the maximum.

The navigator checked his celestial charts and realized it was Venus. Uh, Captain....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 07:04 AM (w6EFb)

56 Good morning morons

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:06 AM (RIvkX)

57 51 (cue the X-Files theme)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 06:58 AM (w6EFb)

For me, that inadvertently segues into the Jeopardy! theme.
Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 07:00 AM (odBC9)


Man in Black #2

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 08, 2026 07:07 AM (iIyc0)

58 Morning from the East Coast where i'm visiting mom for her 91st birthday. Not much QoL but she enjoyed having her kids with her. Somehow it's after 4 a.m. Flying home this evening.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatl at November 08, 2026 04:20 AM (xn+sS)
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Happy birthday. One of my kindergarten buds celebrated his mom yesterday at age 93 with a White Castle buffet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:08 AM (RIvkX)

59 > Mornin', Horde. 26 degrees, going up to 60, in Kentuckiana.
Posted by: Nazdar
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I'm south-west of Louisville and it's 28F here. "Severe Clear" as they say, and a right proper frost on the ground.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 07:08 AM (RORbl)

60 Mrs VIA completed her 5K yesterday morning with a respectable 3rd place finish in her age group, and in the top 30% overall with runners who are much younger than her 29 years of age.
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Mazel. Mrs. F. only runs for the bus.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:10 AM (RIvkX)

61 No stars here in the city, totally overcast.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:13 AM (RIvkX)

62 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 08, 2026 07:14 AM (u82oZ)

63 I’ve always figured that if I see something that’s unusually bright and unexpected on the horizon within 30 minutes of sunrise or sunset, it must be Mercury.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2026 07:16 AM (dJgiD)

64 Shipwreckedcrew

@shipwreckedcrew
The GOP is going to get a look in the weeks and months ahead at just how ruthless the new Dem majorities in Congress are going to be in trying to press their sudden advantage that is greater than they expected.

The GOP should take notes and learn some lessons from what they are about to experience being in the "last" end of the whip while the Dems have the handle.

Politics is no longer a "polite" business and the GOP has take too long to adapt to the fact that the "gentlemanly" way of engaging with "colleagues" from the other party is long outdated.
9:26 AM · Nov 6, 2026
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FFS we were saying this 15 years ago.

This statement is so naive and simplistic. The GOP will do no such thing, that is in fact its purpose is to "absorb" opposition not facilitate it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:16 AM (RIvkX)

65 Have a wonderful day, everyone. May the warmth in your heart compensate for the increasing cold environs.

Going to make some preps.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 08, 2026 07:18 AM (u82oZ)

66 Good morning! Its a brisk 57 on the patio here in Cowtown with a little breeze to chill it just a bit more. Gotta get some fall plants started.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 08, 2026 07:20 AM (3Ope8)

67 Venus is the "morning star."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 08, 2026 07:21 AM (LOvBA)

68
At the show site. Another long day.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 07:22 AM (b8Otf)

69 At the show site. Another long day.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 07:22 AM (b8Otf)
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If any judges give trouble, we need names.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:23 AM (RIvkX)

70 >>Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 07:08 AM (RORbl)

We're due west of L'ville. Heavy frost on the car glass this morning.

Posted by: Shirley at November 08, 2026 07:24 AM (NcvvS)

71 /sock. Dammit, knew that would happen.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 07:24 AM (NcvvS)

72 Good morning.
Dream On? That may be a sign. I am back in the woods, settled in for day 2. Sunrise in about 40 minutes. Dead calm/ quiet out.

Posted by: scampydog at November 08, 2026 07:33 AM (MtXs3)

73 37 degrees

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 08, 2026 07:34 AM (VyBeY)

74 Venus and Earth's orbital periods are in an almost exact 13:8 ratio, and this creates a 5 pointed pentagram pattern, sometimes called the 5 petaled Rose of Venus, which occur at nearly the same spot in the sky over an 8 year cycle.

Mercury's ratio isn't close enough to integral over any reasonable period of time, so no fixed cycle for it.

Posted by: Publius on Stupid Phone at November 08, 2026 07:34 AM (w6EFb)

75 Saw Venus, I think! Bright indeed!

Posted by: RandomDave at November 08, 2026 07:39 AM (YwYun)

76 Electron is just a wrapper for html and JavaScript, if the rust application wasn’t faster, that would be remarkable.

Rust sucks I’m not sure why everyone has gone gay for rust but it seems like everyone is going to was a trillion dollars writing and re-writing everything in rust.

C/C++ is the lords language and shall always be.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2026 07:39 AM (LfmE7)

77 @64

>> This statement is so naive and simplistic.

The GOP has essentially been wiped out in California, they might as well close any offices they have there.

Apparently the people of the US want themselves son Democrat socialism, we are going to get it good and hard.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2026 07:44 AM (LfmE7)

78 This statement is so naive and simplistic. The GOP will do no such thing, that is in fact its purpose is to "absorb" opposition not facilitate it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:16 AM (RIvkX)
-

I.e., the GOP IS the problem!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 07:44 AM (C6GAH)

79 mornin yall. I'm still downloading books from Gutenberg that will be useful in the burning times, like books on gunsmithing and hog butchering. Also this one:

"Woman's Institute Library of Cookery. Volume 4: Salads and Sandwiches; Cold and Frozen Desserts; Cakes, Cookies and Puddings; Pastries and Pies"

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 07:45 AM (MWfyi)

80 That's preposterous.

Women shoot at Venus. Men shoot at Mars.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 07:48 AM (aKiSo)

81 The GOP should take notes and learn some lessons from what they are about to experience being in the "last" end of the whip while the Dems have the handle.

Hahahaha...comedy gold! The gop, like good catamites, will take the beating and ask for more until they climax like the submissives they are.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

Posted by: Chip Diller at November 08, 2026 07:54 AM (Ssbab)

82 Yes the GOP is terrible and being a critic is easy. It is all we have at the moment so work to make it something else.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 07:57 AM (8Uo7a)

83 Back from my workout; the denser cooler air, I like to think, supercharged my lungs as I went. Light breakfast now, then I'll check my email and fiddle around with things before the Book Thread emerges!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 07:58 AM (56Qyq)

84 Gen. Pinochet's solution was not limited to the members of Unidad Popular.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:00 AM (RIvkX)

85 Rust sucks I’m not sure why everyone has gone gay for rust but it seems like everyone is going to was a trillion dollars writing and re-writing everything in rust.

C/C++ is the lords language and shall always be.


Knowing both, it depends on your use case and your perspective as either manager or developer.

For C/C++, higher initial velocity, better hiring pipeline, hardware control. Some argue proven decades long ecosystem stability.

For Rust, massive reduction in vulnerability and patch costs, lower maintenance, modern tooling, railway oriented explicit error handling.

With AI, starting with a robust SSOT, greenfield- definitely go with Rust as first choice understanding caveats to using something like Golang or .NET instead

Posted by: Community Notes at November 08, 2026 08:00 AM (a4flb)

86 mornin yall. I'm still downloading books from Gutenberg that will be useful in the burning times, like books on gunsmithing and hog butchering.

The problem with prepping just before the burning times is that all of your preps will be "nationalized".

You are basically your community's uncompensated warehouse.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 08, 2026 08:03 AM (a4flb)

87
Oh, thank God! No Best Puppy, no Best Bred-by, no Veteran special attraction. Just ordinary classes today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 08:03 AM (2TXIf)

88 Just ordinary classes today.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Wait, participatory ribbons for dog shows too?
Enjoy your day, H7.

Posted by: scampydog at November 08, 2026 08:08 AM (MtXs3)

89 The problem with prepping just before the burning times is that all of your preps will be "nationalized".

Then all they have to do is come and get it from me.

Posted by: Halfhand at November 08, 2026 08:09 AM (94Zfv)

90
85 Rust sucks I’m not sure why everyone has gone gay for rust but it seems like everyone is going to was a trillion dollars writing and re-writing everything in rust.

Rust never sleeps.

Posted by: Neil Young at November 08, 2026 08:11 AM (dJgiD)

91 Gen. Pinochet's solution was not limited to the members of Unidad Popular.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:00 AM (RIvkX)

We'll never do any of that stuff. It's the Ds that will do that to us.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 08:14 AM (1Ff7Z)

92 Rust never sleeps.
Posted by: Neil Young at November 08, 2026 08:11 AM (dJgiD)

But it is the leading cause of Hollywood deaths.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 08:16 AM (1Ff7Z)

93
One day, I'm going to write about what dog shows in heaven are like. Hint: very different than what we run into on earth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 08:16 AM (2TXIf)

94 64 Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
The GOP is going to get a look in the weeks and months ahead at just how ruthless the new Dem majorities in Congress are going to be in trying to press their sudden advantage that is greater than they expected.

The GOP should take notes and learn some lessons from what they are about to experience being in the "last" end of the whip while the Dems have the handle.

Politics is no longer a "polite" business and the GOP has take too long to adapt to the fact that the "gentlemanly" way of engaging with "colleagues" from the other party is long outdated.
9:26 AM · Nov 6, 2026
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This statement is so naive and simplistic.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 07:16 AM (RIvkX)

... and boring! I started reading it, like, 3 times and kept falling asleep.

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 08:16 AM (odBC9)

95 Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 07:57 AM (8Uo7a)

Morning Ben Had, I’ve mentioned the Chinese group in my area who all lived under Communism and worked their hearts out since the primary. They got little help from the FB GOP and used their own money for signs, spent weekends going door to door, etc. They are, as the rest of us, heartbroken. And angry. She sent me the text below yesterday and we both agreed it’s why the left had to take Charlie out. That event in Utah was his first gearing up for the midterms. I didn’t know that.

“TX GOP didn’t put any effort on college campuses. We have less than 25% college students voted for republicans. A lot of students registered for the first time to vote for Talarico.”

Posted by: TxAnn at November 08, 2026 08:16 AM (itAg7)

96
Oh, and I'm handling my ring by myself. They do this to me because they know I can take the strain.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2026 08:17 AM (2TXIf)

97 70 >>Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2026 07:08 AM (RORbl)

We're due west of L'ville. Heavy frost on the car glass this morning.
Posted by: Shirley at November 08, 2026 07:24 AM (NcvvS)

71 /sock. Dammit, knew that would happen.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 07:24 AM (NcvvS)

heh

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 08:17 AM (odBC9)

98 I thought the report of Dana White offered the job of Press Secretary was a joke. Apparently, not.

Posted by: Unkaren at November 08, 2026 08:18 AM (TgU4U)

99
VDH says lots of good things to say about the possibilities open to Trump remaining term and the Republicans leading to '28, even given last week's disaster:

https://tinyurl.com/3p92cbcs

I think he's basically right.

The main problem for me seems to be the

Iago-esque Thune continuing treachery out of mere hate, envy, and vanity.

Will he have any leadership role in '28? Or any of the grimy backstabbers?

Some politicians just want to see the country burn for a few Chinese yuan and a pat on the head by the left.

In any event, good stuff along with some hope.

VDH is always worth a read.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 08:20 AM (YSUhf)

100 100

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 08:20 AM (odBC9)

101 "The problem with prepping just before the burning times is that all of your preps will be "nationalized".

Then all they have to do is come and get it from me.
Posted by: Halfhand"

They'll have to get thru the swamp and hidden valley first.

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:23 AM (MWfyi)

102 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at November 08, 2026 08:23 AM (2Ez/1)

103 TxAnn, I intend to address all of those points with the local group. I will be looking for people that have the ability to create the Pratt type videos along with the civics 101 classes.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 08:24 AM (8Uo7a)

104 VDH is always worth a read.
Posted by: naturalfake

Yes, I read that earlier this morning. Gives me a little bit of hope for the coming two years.

Posted by: Tuna at November 08, 2026 08:24 AM (lJ0H4)

105 We'll never do any of that stuff. It's the Ds that will do that to us.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 08:14 AM (1Ff7Z)

They already is. The left loves making martyrs of their "fallen"...writing songs about them, putting them on t-shirts, hats, naming bills after them, putting them on coins, naming government buildings after them.

I wonder what would happen to a kid wearing a Charlie Kirk t-shirt to his government indoctrination center today?

Posted by: Federico Garcia Lorca at November 08, 2026 08:25 AM (Ssbab)

106 You can get beat up and maybe killed just for wearing a red hat in any major city. So much for tolerance and inclusion.

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:27 AM (MWfyi)

107
Ugh.

muslim policemen demonstrating why muslims should never have been allowed into the country or at a minimum never allowed into any political or social positions of power.

https://tinyurl.com/mry8ve52

It's always the same as history proves.

They must be shown the door or severely prosecuted when their "religion" interferes with normal Americans civil rights - you know, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness kinds of things.

Via Insty.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 08:29 AM (YSUhf)

108 Anyone of a certain age like myself is discounting all the end-of-the-world talk. If you were around in the 70s this is old hat.

Yes, the nature of the opposition has changed but relying on American values as our driving force guarantees eventual success.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:30 AM (RIvkX)

109 El Sayed on Morning Joe
We must fully fund USAID
Proof 100% USAID is the Socialist Slush Fund

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 08:30 AM (/+uur)

110 Good morning Horde. Thx Pixy
So the guy who shot up Krakow was a tranny and a leftist. Tusk the PM had the guy's Facebook page scrubbed to try and blame it on right wingers. They hate us and will do anything to keep power

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 08, 2026 08:31 AM (7XuqV)

111 asmongold
Cancel culture is back.. But it switched sides
27:03

https://tinyurl.com/3awnyfr2

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 08:31 AM (odBC9)

112 It's not the end of the world. Change is inevitable. This particular change sucks.

Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:32 AM (MWfyi)

113 Some numbers I found on X with respect to the under 30 vote:

digest:

1. The Biden Admin. naturalized about 3 million aliens from 2021 to 2024. Add them to the post-2020 eligible voter pool.

2. Every year about 4 million 17 year olds turn 18. My math says that since Trump was first elected in 2016, that's somewhere around 40 million new potential voters.

3. Trump received 46% of the vote from 18-29 year olds in 2024.

4. On Tuesday that demographic voted 31% for GOP candidates.

It's not hard to find the shift in the vote from 2024 to 2026.

Posted by: Neil Young at November 08, 2026 08:34 AM (dJgiD)

114 111 asmongold
Cancel culture is back.. But it switched sides
27:03

https://tinyurl.com/3awnyfr2
Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 08:31 AM (odBC9)

vs. Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 08:35 AM (odBC9)

115 Didnt JWs have 1975 as start of Armageddon?

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 08:36 AM (/+uur)

116
98 I thought the report of Dana White offered the job of Press Secretary was a joke. Apparently, not.
Posted by: Unkaren at November 08, 2026 08:18 AM (TgU4U)

I guess it’s a few years too late for Dana Carvey.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2026 08:36 AM (dJgiD)

117 I'm beginning to believe that asmongold and hasan piker call each other every night just to gab a bit and plan out their week together.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 08:37 AM (aKiSo)

118 Dana White isn't even a good press secretary for the UFC for crying out loud. I don't hate the guy, but he definitely has his strengths and weaknesses.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 08:37 AM (aKiSo)

119 Big iron staples to keep the trees from falling out of the ground may be the most Down Under Thing you'll read all day.
Life must be pretty complicated there.
You know, their toilets swirl the opposite way, too.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 08, 2026 08:38 AM (zdLoL)

120 106 You can get beat up and maybe killed just for wearing a red hat in any major city. So much for tolerance and inclusion.
Posted by: fd at November 08, 2026 08:27 AM (MWfyi)

That to me sounds more like a tactical problem than a political problem.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 08:39 AM (aKiSo)

121
108 Anyone of a certain age like myself is discounting all the end-of-the-world talk. If you were around in the 70s this is old hat.

That’s why I’ve been thinking of the Ballad of Buster Scruggs!

First time, eh?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2026 08:39 AM (dJgiD)

122 Didnt JWs have 1975 as start of Armageddon?
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 08:36 AM (/+uur)
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Yes, that was the most recent, September 1975.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:40 AM (RIvkX)

123 Do they make t-shirts with Charlie Kirk except it's all monochrome and cool like the typical Che Guevara shirt?

That would be fun.

Especially if you used an AI to make him all scraggly and beardy and in exactly the same pose.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 08:41 AM (aKiSo)

124 117 I'm beginning to believe that asmongold and hasan piker call each other every night just to gab a bit and plan out their week together.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 08:37 AM (aKiSo)

ha!

Posted by: m at November 08, 2026 08:42 AM (odBC9)

125 Wonder if Guevara ever had someone whacked for calling him "Ernie"....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 08:42 AM (aKiSo)

126 >>Cancel culture is back.. But it switched sides

Those witches weren't cancelled. They lost their advertisers because they decided it was a great idea to gruesomely mock the death of a young man who left behind a widow and young children.

They are still free to have their podcast and say whatever they want but companies don't have to associate with them and pay them millions while they use their platform to laugh about murder.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 08:42 AM (viF8m)

127 Yes, that was the most recent, September 1975.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:40 AM (RIvkX)

But if you tell them they've predicted it multiple times, they'll deny it. If you were to show them their tracts from before, they'll say they're fake.

You know what is supposed to happen to false prophets, right?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 08:43 AM (1Ff7Z)

128 They are still free to have their podcast and say whatever they want but companies don't have to associate with them and pay them millions while they use their platform to laugh about murder.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 08:42 AM (viF8m)

No one's even mentioned forcing them to stop their podcast, let alone shooting them in the throat in broad daylight.

But they have a Fundamental Human Right to get paid by someone else to do what they wanted to do anyway, you see.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2026 08:44 AM (aKiSo)

129 Besides how ruthless the Marxists are going to be, they have two years to advance vote fraud and will never give up their power.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 08:46 AM (Ia/+0)

130 You guys are picking on my scabs. I've had issues with the JWs ever since 1975. In my deepest conviction I am sure that church is of shaytan, and if they dare approach me I am happy to educate.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:47 AM (RIvkX)

131 Seems the Judiciary is already under their power, no serious conservative judge has any shot at a opening position. Once the Judiciary takes over they will be running the show.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 08:50 AM (Ia/+0)

132 Midwest Chick's Sunday memes are up:

https://tinyurl.com/4fvyb5p2

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 08:50 AM (NcvvS)

133 @130 S Franpsycho, just do what Robert Stack did to the JWs, the Hari Krishnas etc in Airplane!

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 08, 2026 08:50 AM (7XuqV)

134 I wonder what would happen to a kid wearing a Charlie Kirk t-shirt to his government indoctrination center today?

Probably nothing since schools are closed on the weekend.

Posted by: Community Notes at November 08, 2026 08:50 AM (a4flb)

135 (D) will be able to carry the "Affordability" banner for about another week before they rip it into pieces and tie a noose for hanging whichever (R) happens to be on the media.
Their nature is violence as it 1) feeds their masses, 2) does not requires a court of law, and 3) get them media time.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 08:51 AM (/+uur)

136
What ever happened to the Hari Krishnas?

I gotta assume they're still running around California and dancing like loons.

But everywhere else...Nada?

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 08:52 AM (YSUhf)

137 SF
sorry to get your dander up I was just pointing out in my lifetime the "this time it is the real end" has happened.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 08, 2026 08:53 AM (/+uur)

138 The Hare Krishnas are still around. I see them in Golden Gate park.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:53 AM (RIvkX)

139 119 Big iron staples to keep the trees from falling out of the ground may be the most Down Under Thing you'll read all day.
Life must be pretty complicated there.
You know, their toilets swirl the opposite way, too.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 08, 2026 08:38 AM

But I hear they have delicious deep fried onions!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2026 08:55 AM (0o1lz)

140 I was still a kid in 1975 and they were all over, it seemed, and very convincing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:56 AM (RIvkX)

141 The Hare Krishnas are still around. I see them in Golden Gate park.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026


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Do they still harangue people in airports? I haven't flown since 2014, so I dunno.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 08:56 AM (56Qyq)

142 The Hare Krishnas are still around. I see them in Golden Gate park.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 08:53 AM (RIvkX)


Well, there you go, 'Psycho.

Whenever you're feeling down, grab a tambourine and prance around the park with them.

Problems solved by naturalfake right before your very eyes!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 08:56 AM (YSUhf)

143 The Hare Krishnas are still around. I see them in Golden Gate park.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026

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Do they still harangue people in airports? I haven't flown since 2014, so I dunno.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 08:56 AM (56Qyq)


That's what I meant.

They used to be in every airport. But, not now anywhere I've flown.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2026 08:58 AM (YSUhf)

144 Books upstairs. NOOD!

Posted by: Nazdar at November 08, 2026 08:59 AM (NcvvS)

145 BOOK NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0)

146 TSA probably put the kybosh on most of that. Used to be you could hang around the airport and watch the planes take off and land. Can't really do that anymore.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 08, 2026 09:00 AM (1Ff7Z)

147 Noodlum.

Posted by: Noodist at November 08, 2026 09:00 AM (0o1lz)

148 Can't solicit in airports anymore, not here anyway.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2026 09:00 AM (RIvkX)

149 Oops! It is time for the Book Thread, huh?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 08, 2026 09:01 AM (56Qyq)

150 I just hope the dems overplay their hand like they usually do. I think we were taken for granted here in TX and its going to cost us dearly. I voted straight R but those lazy asses did not work as hard as they could have and should have. It's difficult to support them.

Posted by: Billythesquid at November 08, 2026 09:10 AM (x4l2h)

151 >>I just hope the dems overplay their hand like they usually do. I think we were taken for granted here in TX and its going to cost us dearly. I voted straight R but those lazy asses did not work as hard as they could have and should have. It's difficult to support them.

We all got lazy. What happened in Texas and also happened around the country was not a typical argument between political parties. It goes much deeper.

Until we understand what we are fighting we aren't going to win.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 09:16 AM (viF8m)

152 So cute how half-wit "conservative" commenters talk about Republicans coming back because democrats will "overplay their hand."

Election fraud is now foundational in almost every state - thanks in no small part to the GOP establishment, who took their 30 pueces of silver to let it happen. Republicans will never control the House or Senate again, nor the White House after 2028.

We are in the first stage of one-party rule.

Posted by: drjimi at November 08, 2026 12:29 PM (IfOLs)

153 >was using 75% of its RAM by the time it reached the Windows desktop

Windows uses any spare RAM not occupied by actually running programs as a disk and application cache, which is why it has a reputation for being a memory hog. It isn't; it's just that people don't look at the right values when monitoring.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at November 08, 2026 10:57 PM (LgYtf)

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Open thread - bar is open, too. Come in in, grab a drink or 2. Or 3. Keep it light and friendly. The Moose is outside enjoying the crisp fall weather but always ready for action.

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The next morning their husbands were talking in the yard.

One says “I think my wife is having an affair. She came home last night and her panties were missing.”

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The wife immediately got out of bed and slipped into the maid’s bed. She turned off the lights and waited.

When her husband returned, he quietly climbed into bed and wasted no time. He had his way with her without saying a word.

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3) All of Florida is south of California. Florida's northernmost point is roughly 100 miles south of California's southern border.

4) The long western stretch of the Canada-U.S. border follows the 49th parallel. The Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport actually lies almost exactly on the 49th parallel. In other words, every part of Europe north of Paris is further north than any part of the US mainland.

5) Calgary is only 32 miles south of London. All of Ireland is north of Calgary.

6) Both Los Angeles and San Diego, California are further east than Reno, Nevada.

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1 00ga

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2026 10:01 PM (Cqx++)

2 🪩 🦖

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 10:01 PM (kpS4V)

3 Willowed: Believe Patrick McGoohan was an early choice for Bond but he turned it down.

Damn shame -- he'd have been terrific. Can't see him doing all the quips, though; he'd have played it more serious.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026


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He was offered the role, partly because of his turn as John Drake in the Secret Agent/Danger Man series that preceded the first Bond film. But Patrick objected to Bond's womanizing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:01 PM (56Qyq)

4 THE ONT !

Posted by: Case at November 07, 2026 10:02 PM (En+fz)

5 Sorry I'm late, my shoelace had a tricky knot in it and I was waiting for Alexander the Great to take care of it

Posted by: tankdemon at November 07, 2026 10:02 PM (2RJDy)

6 Woof!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:05 PM (vBZcw)

7 Connecticut: Tick
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Spoon!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 10:05 PM (kpS4V)

8 Hola, Hall.

Posted by: Bulg at November 07, 2026 10:05 PM (77rzZ)

9
Yes, it's amazing just how far east South America is. My Southern latitude equivalent along my meridian is in the Pacific.

And indeed, just how far north London and the UK is amazing. That's the Gulf stream current at work.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:05 PM (w6EFb)

10 Keep her frozen. Worst Christmas Song Ever. Even worse than Christmas Shoes.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:06 PM (1Ff7Z)

11 I'm in CA and I saw at least six sea lions today. So the map checks out.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:07 PM (vBZcw)

12 Da fuq is a "pizza rat" ?

Oh, and good evening good people ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at November 07, 2026 10:07 PM (oCio0)

13
There's a story that Patrick McGoohan (4x Columbo murderer) was offered the role of Columbo in the late '70s to replace Peter Falk. McGoohan was offended, told them to go F themselves, as there is only one Columbo. Period. Amen.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:07 PM (w6EFb)

14 troll turd 6Xg+m at the end of the Pet Thread

Posted by: quick! to the COBmobile! at November 07, 2026 10:07 PM (PgV1+)

15 Brazil geography trivia

Brazil's northernmost point is closer to every single country in the Americas (including the United States and Canada) than it is to Brazil's own southernmost point.

And its easternmost point is closer to Africa than to its westernmost point.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 10:08 PM (qWvvZ)

16 Started in on the meat and potatoes of the front porch rebuild today, am pretty far along with beams and joists, started applying the butyl tape, cut all of the cross pieces and blocking need blocking for the picture frame border, which I'll start on tomorrow.

If it doesn't rain next week, will probably finish by Friday.

All in all, saving 12k dollars doing it myself.

Which I didn't really want to do, but some estimates I got were offensive, hence why I'm doing it myself.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 10:08 PM (XV/Pl)

17 Holy cow! Lookit this ONT! Howdy Dzs! And scamp, wherever you are....
Oh yeah! Lotza Horde!❣️💕

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 10:09 PM (96kpa)

18 On the other hand, I saw no scorpions, mountain goats, blue hens or wolverines. The map holds.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:10 PM (vBZcw)

19 >>> 12 Da fuq is a "pizza rat" ?

Oh, and good evening good people ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at November 07, 2026 10:07 PM (oCio0)

We like pizza.

Posted by: pizza rats at November 07, 2026 10:11 PM (PgV1+)

20 Wait a minute — how did comments go from, like 136 to. like, 8?

I suspect commenter fraud.

Posted by: Bulg at November 07, 2026 10:12 PM (77rzZ)

21 We like pizza.
Posted by: pizza rats at November 07, 2026 10:11 PM (PgV1+)

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Stay in your lane.

Posted by: Pizza Pottos at November 07, 2026 10:12 PM (vBZcw)

22 Good evening! Hurricanes are terrible. Here, NOLA, doesn’t matter.
May I have an iced tea, please?

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:12 PM (ZdaMQ)

23 Loved the geography info. Amazing, isn't it, how high on the "shoulder" of the Earth Europe is, even France and Germany. The upper reaches of Norway, Sweden, and Finland, I think, are within the Arctic Circle, or very close to it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:12 PM (56Qyq)

24
Today was the 4th cross-quarter day, the halfway point between the fall equinox and the winter solstice. The "solar season" scheme would mark this the start of winter. This centers the seasons on the equinoxes and solstices, and is the best for counting insolation.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:12 PM (w6EFb)

25 He was offered the role, partly because of his turn as John Drake in the Secret Agent/Danger Man series that preceded the first Bond film. But Patrick objected to Bond's womanizing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:01 PM (56Qyq)

Didn't want to do any romantic scenes because he though it wrong as he was married.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:13 PM (1Ff7Z)

26 Da fuq is a "pizza rat" ?

Oh, and good evening good people ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at November 07, 2026 10:07 PM (oCio0)


From wiki:
"Pizza Rat is an Internet meme based around a viral video of a brown rat carrying a slice of pizza down the steps of a New York City Subway station in Manhattan. The video was first uploaded to Instagram on September 21, 2015, and a copy was uploaded to YouTube later. As of September 2023, the YouTube video had more than 12.35 million views."

Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:13 PM (QMAsf)

27
Another long, hard day. Worked as a steward at today's show from 8:00 to 2:00. Came home, ran the dogs out, went to Mass, came home, had something to eat and fell asleep in my armchair.

The judge was very complimentary about my work and said I'd been a big help. Meanwhile, in another ring, Her Majesty, who was stewarding in another ring, was sharply rebuked by the judge for pointing out that someone was ineligible to compete in that class. Of course, HM turned out to be absolutely correct.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 10:13 PM (eRlcH)

28 >>> 10 Keep her frozen. Worst Christmas Song Ever. Even worse than Christmas Shoes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:06 PM (1Ff7Z)

Oh yeah?

Posted by: feeeeed the WOOORLD at November 07, 2026 10:14 PM (PgV1+)

29 Posted by: quick! to the COBmobile

Have you seen the COBmobile?

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ)

30 There is no Bigfoot here in WA.

It’s Sasquatch.


Jeepers.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 07, 2026 10:15 PM (TPLET)

31 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 07, 2026 10:15 PM (Iz+f5)

32 Happy Saturday Horde, I went out to dinner with my neighbors, it seems like it should be midnight, I may not be here too long.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 07, 2026 10:15 PM (ibDUx)

33 Evening, Horde!

Not much to say. Praying that the coming week is better for everyone and that I get positive results from last week's interview.

I've seen the first joke before, but the second is new to me.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 07, 2026 10:16 PM (iVjhf)

34 holy smokes. I usually chime in just in time to kill the thread!

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at November 07, 2026 10:16 PM (mkPTt)

35 In late hobby news, the watch I ordered from Michigan arrived! And it is beautiful. Or it would be -- if it had the right dial. Everything else matches, but the dial is not the one I wanted and thought I'd chosen. And the watch was running after 48 hours in transit, which I think even a fully-wound handwinding watch would not be.

I think the company in Germany mistakenly put an auto model with this dial into a box intended for the handwinder I wanted, and the Michigan shop didn't know. Well, I'll get in touch with them on Monday about an exchange.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:16 PM (56Qyq)

36 The Rebels are not having a good time this evening.

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:17 PM (ZdaMQ)

37 NC animal should be the skeeter

Posted by: NCKate at November 07, 2026 10:17 PM (enNUy)

38 Lousy-ana animal ought to be the mosquito or the cockroach.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:18 PM (56Qyq)

39 In grade school they taught us the badger is WI's state animal because of the lead miners in the SE part of the state.

Posted by: davidt at November 07, 2026 10:19 PM (Q+gd/)

40 I think the company in Germany mistakenly put an auto model with this dial into a box intended for the handwinder I wanted, and the Michigan shop didn't know. Well, I'll get in touch with them on Monday about an exchange.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:16 PM (56Qyq)

Probably too late to do anything about it now, Wolfus. Time waits for no man.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:19 PM (1Ff7Z)

41 Thanks for the ONT.
Gateway Pundit - nothing will happen.

President Trump Amplifies Explosive “15% Band” Analysis Exposing Democrats’ Algorithmic Pattern in 2026 Midterms by ‘TruthIsFreedom’ Following Gateway Pundit Reports — For Every 1,000 Trump Votes, 150 Shifted to Democrats Across the Map

Snowflakes outside. She can stay. I'm tired. Her Mom Starry stays out all nights.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 10:19 PM (Sco7b)

42 “Rat pizza is a violation of our cultural norms,”
— Newark

Posted by: Bulg at November 07, 2026 10:19 PM (77rzZ)

43 Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:13 PM (1Ff7Z)

Not only was McGoohan married he was married for 57 years and a devoted Roman Catholic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (JrHfD)

44 The Rebels are not having a good time this evening.
Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:17 PM (ZdaMQ)

Sadly, they did on Tuesday.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (1Ff7Z)

45 Sorry I'm late, my shoelace had a tricky knot in it and I was waiting for Alexander the Great to take care of it
Posted by: tankdemon


In a rather convoluted way, you asked for it!

https://youtu.be/DK_ejIDTGqg

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (VHUov)

46 Probably too late to do anything about it now, Wolfus. Time waits for no man.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:19 PM (1Ff7Z)

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Yep. Tempus fuckit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (vBZcw)

47 38 Lousy-ana animal ought to be the mosquito or the cockroach.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November

Palmetto Bug. We are in the south, sir. 😂. Ours is a mosquito on an alligator that just ate a catfish.

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (ZdaMQ)

48 "Honey? Which do you want on the pizza, rat or anchovies?"

Posted by: davidt at November 07, 2026 10:21 PM (Q+gd/)

49 Happy Saturday Horde, I went out to dinner with my neighbors, it seems like it should be midnight, I may not be here too long.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

Please don't go - I just made cappuccino.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 10:21 PM (L/8vZ)

50 44 The Rebels are not having a good time this evening.
Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:17 PM (ZdaMQ)

Sadly, they did on Tuesday.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026

Am I still allowed to say Go Dawgs? Because Go Dawgs!

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:22 PM (ZdaMQ)

51 Mid summer in Britain was fun! Drink all day in the sun (which made appearances while I was stationed there. Your welcome, UK), go to the clubs in the still very light evening. Stumbled out of clubs at 0300, ate coin flip who knows what vendor food, got back to the base by about 0430 and it was starting to bet bright again. It was dark at that time of the year for a couple of hours at 0100-0300. Good times. My liver survived, somehow.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 07, 2026 10:22 PM (Iz+f5)

52 @36-Piper
The Rebels are not having a good time this evening.

LSU's big money coach didn't either.

Posted by: Case at November 07, 2026 10:23 PM (En+fz)

53 52 @36-Piper
The Rebels are not having a good time this evening.

LSU's big money coach didn't either.
Posted by: Case at November 07, 20

Saw that. Oopsie!

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:24 PM (ZdaMQ)

54 I hate Kiffen, but I also hate Alabama. Still glad Kiffen lost.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 07, 2026 10:24 PM (Iz+f5)

55 Evening, D&D, and the ONT Horde!

It was a beautiful Indian Summer day here, so I loaded the big Generac generator and the big zero-steer mower on the car trailer, strapped them down, threw buddy's ancient Browning Auto-5 in the back of the 'burb, and drove 60 miles to deliver all three. Temp got up to 55F here. Sweltering, for November. Had a good drive, no snags at all. Gassed up for $1.32 per liter (down bigly from last week), went on into Calgary to buy a couple of sale items at Princess Auto, and then wended my way home.

Anyway, that's three chores off the to-do list.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:24 PM (yky4J)

56 Palmetto Bug. We are in the south, sir. 😂. Ours is a mosquito on an alligator that just ate a catfish.
Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (ZdaMQ)


South Carolina Palmetto Bugs are the only bugs that truly scared me. I think one was big enough to put a saddle on.

Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:24 PM (QMAsf)

57 Keep her frozen. Worst Christmas Song Ever. Even worse than Christmas Shoes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Oh yeah?
Posted by: feeeeed the WOOORLD


Pikers. Undefeated for 73 years!

Posted by: Gayla Peevey & the Hippopotamusses at November 07, 2026 10:24 PM (VHUov)

58 54 I hate Kiffen, but I also hate Alabama. Still glad Kiffen lost.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 07, 2026 10

Are you J posting from the backyard?

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:25 PM (ZdaMQ)

59 Am I still allowed to say Go Dawgs? Because Go Dawgs!
Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:22 PM (ZdaMQ)

Only if they're racing each other.

Do you like my hat?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:25 PM (1Ff7Z)

60 Good evening morons and Слава Двоим!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:25 PM (RIvkX)

61 Carey is known for this "All I Want for Christmas Is You"? There's another song with that title done by a local group called Vince Vance and the Valiants, and it's quite good. Wiki says there was a lawsuit, and Andy Stone of VV&tV said his version was written five years before Carey did hers.

The lyrics for VV's song are different from Carey's, though they express the same basic ideas.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:26 PM (56Qyq)

62 I saw a movie called Greta and it had a lot of movie logic silliness but the thing that just left me chuckling is...

[spoilers]

Chloe Moretz, 21 years old and fit, was repeatedly too physically afraid of 65 year old Isabelle Huppert to just...knock her down, take her keys, and leave

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:26 PM (sKqQm)

63 The Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder" is just finishing on MeTV. This the one with Elly May and the pig people.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:26 PM (w6EFb)

64 USAF/Army are having a pretty good tussle. Close game, 4th Qt. 24-21, USAF.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 07, 2026 10:27 PM (Iz+f5)

65 In case anyone hasn't posted this yet.
youtube of New York's pizza rat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPXUG8q4jKU

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 10:27 PM (0Htd1)

66 USAF/Army are having a pretty good tussle. Close game, 4th Qt. 24-21, USAF.
Posted by: Puddleglum

It's all fun and games until CAS is vectored in.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 10:28 PM (L/8vZ)

67 The black flies in New Hampshire are no joke.

If you compare them to say wasps you'll be surprised at how much more capable of biting you the flies are...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:28 PM (sKqQm)

68 I think the company in Germany mistakenly put an auto model with this dial into a box intended for the handwinder I wanted, and the Michigan shop didn't know. Well, I'll get in touch with them on Monday about an exchange.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:16 PM (56Qyq)

Is this a new watch, or a vintage one?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:28 PM (yky4J)

69 45 In a rather convoluted way, you asked for it!

https://youtu.be/DK_ejIDTGqg
Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (VHUov)

I am reiterating my request that Club ONT allow mikeski to guest DJ sometime.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 07, 2026 10:28 PM (2RJDy)

70 In case anyone hasn't posted this yet.
youtube of New York's pizza rat.


I saw a squirrel with a bagel once.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:28 PM (sKqQm)

71 I think the company in Germany mistakenly put an auto model with this dial into a box intended for the handwinder I wanted, and the Michigan shop didn't know. Well, I'll get in touch with them on Monday about an exchange.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026
*
Probably too late to do anything about it now, Wolfus. Time waits for no man.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026


***
Just *watch* me!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:29 PM (56Qyq)

72 Pikers. Undefeated for 73 years!
Posted by: Gayla Peevey & the Hippopotamusses at November 07, 2026 10:24 PM (VHUov)

By the by, I haven't heard that on the radio for the last few years. Hope I keep that streak alive. Incidentally, the Christmas music started today on the local station.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:29 PM (1Ff7Z)

73 Notre Dame and Miami beating the crap out of each other. Good game.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 10:29 PM (viF8m)

74 I've seen turkeys in MA, seagulls in RI, black flies in NH, cows in VT but no moose in Maine yet.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:30 PM (sKqQm)

75 I saw a squirrel with a bagel once.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:28 PM (sKqQm)

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Ever seen a seagull swallow a wiener in one gulp?

Posted by: Mayor Pete Buttglug at November 07, 2026 10:30 PM (vBZcw)

76 LOL Tonypete!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 07, 2026 10:30 PM (ibDUx)

77 Pennsylvania - Ground Hog. There are lots of them. Could have put deer there to.

Virginia - Wild Pony? Odd.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 07, 2026 10:30 PM (Iz+f5)

78 Yeah.
'You are like a hurricane'...so said Neil Young's song...'spit'....Nice cocktail. But, dickhead singstress🤫
Thanks for a tasty refreshment Ds!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 10:31 PM (96kpa)

79
Ever seen a seagull swallow a wiener in one gulp?


Every night after a win.

Posted by: Some Seattle Seahawks player at November 07, 2026 10:31 PM (sKqQm)

80 Club ONT Department of Geography
Fun facts:
2) Most of South America is east of the entire US East Coast. The extreme western edge of South America (Peru) aligns with Jacksonville, Florida.


Related, and kind of obvious on the map:

If you traverse the Panama Canal from the Atlantic side to Pacific side, you are traveling eastwards, not westwards.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 10:31 PM (VHUov)

81 "Honey? Which do you want on the pizza, rat or anchovies?"
Posted by: davidt at November 07, 2026 10:21 PM (Q+gd/)

Rat on your pizza? Luxury! Why, in my day...

Posted by: Four Yorkshiremen, just warming up at November 07, 2026 10:31 PM (FZzOq)

82 54 I hate Kiffen, but I also hate Alabama. Still glad Kiffen lost.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 07, 2026 10:24 PM (Iz+f5)

If you hate Alabama and want to see Saban get got, find the panel where Shane Gillis cracks a joke about Alabama paying players while he was there.

edit: in fact, here:

https://tinyurl.com/wfev7r3y

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 07, 2026 10:31 PM (r7+Q7)

83 The signs for the blowout were there. But much of the right refused to pay attention.

Last year NJ and VA swung left by 15 vs 2021. There were a couple of Texas state reps races that went Dem which had been GOP for decades. There was that TN special election which went +30 gop in 2024 and only was won +9 earlier this year. Another couple of special elections in Florida with similar massive swings to Demo days.

Each of these things were dismissed as no big deal. Turns out it was one of a big deal after all.

Not to mention how virtually every single poll showed 30-35% support for the Iran war.

But we’ll ignore all that and claim fraud in every state and every county? Come on.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 10:31 PM (qWvvZ)

84 What you lot goin' on about, then?

Posted by: Savage Henry, still gaining acceptance at November 07, 2026 10:32 PM (ZxPkt)

85 I've seen turkeys in MA, seagulls in RI, black flies in NH, cows in VT but no moose in Maine yet.
Posted by: 18-1

Apparently, Ducks were seen in Ohio this afternoon too.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 10:32 PM (L/8vZ)

86 I think the company in Germany mistakenly put an auto model with this dial into a box intended for the handwinder I wanted, and the Michigan shop didn't know. Well, I'll get in touch with them on Monday about an exchange.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026
*
Is this a new watch, or a vintage one?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026


***
Brand new, a Laco. Apparently Laco, founded 101 years ago, was one of the companies that supplied pilot watches to the Luftwaffe, and they still make models with the same look and feel.

The Michigan shop's website, and that of Laco, show the model I ordered as having the dial I wanted -- not the one that showed up. The box and even the instruction manual indicate it was the model I ordered. But the watch has a Type A dial (numbers and hands only), not the Type B with an inner time ring. Somebody scroooed up, and it wasn't me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:32 PM (56Qyq)

87 Yeah.
'You are like a hurricane'...so said Neil Young's song...'spit'....Nice cocktail. But, dickhead singstress🤫
Thanks for a tasty refreshment Ds!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 10:31 PM (96kpa)


Howdy COMM!

Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:32 PM (QMAsf)

88 I've seen turkeys in MA, seagulls in RI, black flies in NH, cows in VT but no moose in Maine yet.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:30 PM (sKqQm)

I have seen turkeys in B.C., and I believe they can be found in the southernmost parts of Alberta and Saskatchewan, too. And B.C. and Alberta are well-provided with Elk, Mountain goats, and Bighorn sheep. And Moose. Have them in my own 'hood. And antelope, too, at times.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:34 PM (yky4J)

89 Not only was McGoohan married he was married for 57 years and a devoted Roman Catholic.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 10:20 PM (JrHfD)

Admirable. There's one current actor who won't kiss in movies or tv either, but I can't remember the name.

I wonder what his reasoning was to take the role in Braveheart? I mean, he murdered someone in the picture.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:34 PM (1Ff7Z)

90 South Carolina Palmetto Bugs are the only bugs that truly scared me. I think one was big enough to put a saddle on.
Posted by: Doof

Florida and Texas laugh. And then the Caribbean nations laugh at us.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 07, 2026 10:34 PM (X8vlu)

91 But the watch has a Type A dial (numbers and hands only), not the Type B with an inner time ring. Somebody scroooed up, and it wasn't me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:32 PM (56Qyq)

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Face it. This isn't the hill to dial on.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:34 PM (vBZcw)

92
If you traverse the Panama Canal from the Atlantic side to Pacific side, you are traveling eastwards, not westwards.
Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026


***
Same thing with the Greater New Orleans Bridge. Going to the West Bank, you are driving east, and vice versa. No wonder I'm the only person in this town who understands the four cardinal directions.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:34 PM (56Qyq)

93 "Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 10:19 PM (Sco7b)" Well I hope folks don't pin hopes "they will find that various models of vote tabulation machines were tampered with."

I would very much like to have someone call 100 to 1000 Trump voters in one of these 15% blue swing states who don't often vote in mid-term elections but voted in this election and poll them on "who did you vote for and why". I have no evidence but I'm positive the Dems turn in lots of ballots that are ostensibly from people who did not vote. Probably the only hope to diminish that kind of cheating is to convince AWFLs that some future NAZI is going to check how they have voted in the past with mail-in, drop-box, ballots so we should return to in-person voting.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (PV+Zw)

94
But we’ll ignore all that and claim fraud in every state and every county? Come on.


The numbers posted are verging on impossible to believe.

But the level of fraud required to do this would be massive and even in the red states no one caught them?

Going into the election I argued there is no way any one, no matter how ignorant of politics, was going to vote for the "we need to eliminate fossil fuels" party because they were upset the price of gas went back up to Biden levels.

But...honestly...that seems more likely then 2020 level fraud to me, at least right now.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (sKqQm)

95 From wiki:
"Pizza Rat is an Internet meme based around a viral video of a brown rat carrying a slice of pizza down the steps of a New York City Subway station in Manhattan. The video was first uploaded to Instagram on September 21, 2015, and a copy was uploaded to YouTube later. As of September 2023, the YouTube video had more than 12.35 million views."
Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:13 PM (QMAsf)
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I rode the NYC subway for years and then Philadelphia's. The biggest subway rat I ever saw was at the 37th and Sansome it was the size of a large cat.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (RIvkX)

96 Admirable. There's one current actor who won't kiss in movies or tv either, but I can't remember the name.

Posted by: OrangeEnt

Neal McDonough.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (L/8vZ)

97 Ever seen a seagull swallow a wiener in one gulp?
Posted by: Mayor Pete Buttglug at November 07, 2026 10:30 PM (vBZcw)

We need to breed a 12-foot seagull, and turn it loose on Scott Wiener, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:37 PM (yky4J)

98 The Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder" is just finishing on MeTV. This the one with Elly May and the pig people.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026


***
I'm so old I saw that one when it was new, and remember the shock of the surprise ending to this day.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:37 PM (56Qyq)

99 I rode the NYC subway for years and then Philadelphia's. The biggest subway rat I ever saw was at the 37th and Sansome it was the size of a large cat.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (RIvkX)


I saw a similar sized one in Boston about 20 or so years ago. Under the platform across the tracks from us while we were waiting for the T.

Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:38 PM (QMAsf)

100 publius, Rascally Mr. Miley, that was one of the first Twilight Zone episodes I saw as a child. My favorite episode was the one with William Shatner looking out of the airplane window and a monster looked back at him. After seeing that, I was afraid to look out of my bedroom window at night.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 10:39 PM (0Htd1)

101 I am reiterating my request that Club ONT allow mikeski to guest DJ sometime.
Posted by: tankdemon


It would keep the dancing to a minimum. 5/4 time FTW!

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 10:39 PM (VHUov)

102
Good evening, all. I've got Play Misty for Me on the tube.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 10:40 PM (XJ22o)

103 Admirable. There's one current actor who won't kiss in movies or tv either, but I can't remember the name.

Posted by: OrangeEnt

Neal McDonough.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (L/8vZ)


Incredible actor and an awesome guy. Absolutely loved him as Robert Quarles in S3 of Justified.

Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:40 PM (QMAsf)

104 63 The Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder" is just finishing on MeTV. This the one with Elly May and the pig people.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:26 PM (w6EFb)

I can never see a picture of Chelsea Clinton without thinking of that episode.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 07, 2026 10:40 PM (2RJDy)

105
Arctic Circle map:
https://t.ly/5GzoQ

You see Sweden, Norway, and Finland extend well above it. The top of Iceland gets close, but misses it by a little bit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:40 PM (w6EFb)

106 >>But...honestly...that seems more likely then 2020 level fraud to me, at least right now.

We really have two elections now. Election day everyone focuses on. Almost nobody looks at what goes on in early voting not to mention new voter registration.

Talarico got more early votes than Paxton got votes on election day. Fraud doesn't always mean voting machines.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 10:41 PM (viF8m)

107 62 I saw a movie called Greta
Posted by: 18-1


Was it a horror movie about that troll from Norway?

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 10:41 PM (0Htd1)

108 Neal McDonough.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (L/8vZ)

Thanks. Couldn't recall a name because I usually don't watch modern stuff.

Last movie I watched online was McQ. Last theater movie was Young Washington.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:42 PM (1Ff7Z)

109 The good news is that you can purchase advertising time to ensure your message gets to the (clean handed) Moron Horde.

_________________________

I don't think this is a good idea. (*whispers*...there are people in here who put carrots in chili)

Posted by: Orson at November 07, 2026 10:42 PM (dIske)

110 I think Sandy Cocazio Ortez wants an Hurricane over here!

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:42 PM (ZdaMQ)

111
I don't think this is a good idea. (*whispers*...there are people in here who put carrots in chili)
Posted by: Orson at November 07, 2026 10:42

And…..beans! *high pitched scream in the background*

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:42 PM (ZdaMQ)

112
I wonder what his reasoning was to take the role in Braveheart? I mean, he murdered someone in the picture.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

===============

He probably didn't have to sink a knife into a guy's back for an onscreen murder. Whereas he would have to put his mouth on a girl's mouth for an onscreen kiss.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 10:43 PM (XJ22o)

113 Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:13 PM (QMAsf)

Thank you good sir ...

***tips cap***

Posted by: browndog says woof at November 07, 2026 10:43 PM (oCio0)

114 Poland hasn't settled down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 10:44 PM (C0oZI)

115 99 I rode the NYC subway for years and then Philadelphia's. The biggest subway rat I ever saw was at the 37th and Sansome it was the size of a large cat.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (RIvkX)

I saw a similar sized one in Boston about 20 or so years ago. Under the platform across the tracks from us while we were waiting for the T.
Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:38 PM (QMAsf)

_________________________

The best is when there are flooding rains (especially in Manhattan). You're not going to see a football sized rat most of the time. But, you are going to see many many many rats everywhere. Fun Fact: A lot of midtown restaurants will shut down after a flood not because of the rain....but because the rats coming up out of the cellars.

Posted by: Orson at November 07, 2026 10:44 PM (dIske)

116 My favorite episode was the one with William Shatner looking out of the airplane window and a monster looked back at him. After seeing that, I was afraid to look out of my bedroom window at night.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026


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Based on a story by Richard (I Am Legend) Matheson, and written by him for the show. RM knew how to ratchet up the tension in a scene. See his "Enemy Within" episode of Trek and the famous final portion of Trilogy of Terror w/ Karen Black. (That script was also based on several of his stories which appeared in Playboy.)

Shatner gives a fine performance in that TZ: dramatic but never over-the-top. Those who think he always overacts need to see his earlier TV and movie work. He was restrained and powerful, and you can't take your eyes off him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:44 PM (56Qyq)

117 I rode the NYC subway for years and then Philadelphia's. The biggest subway rat I ever saw was at the 37th and Sansome it was the size of a large cat.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:35 PM (RIvkX)

I saw a similar sized one in Boston about 20 or so years ago. Under the platform across the tracks from us while we were waiting for the T.
Posted by: Doof at November 07, 2026 10:38 PM (QMAsf)

Cities with rat-infested subways need to hire teams of rat hunters to patrol the subways. Give them AR-15 type carbines chambered in 9 mm, and use cartridges loaded with snake shot. They could have little electric scooters fitted with wheels that would ride a rail, and of course would have wearable radios to alert them of approaching trains. Fit the guns with night-vision gear.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:45 PM (yky4J)

118 He probably didn't have to sink a knife into a guy's back for an onscreen murder. Whereas he would have to put his mouth on a girl's mouth for an onscreen kiss.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 10:43 PM (XJ22o)

Well, he pushed a guy out a window, so, could have been his reasoning.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:45 PM (1Ff7Z)

119 Admirable. There's one current actor who won't kiss in movies or tv either, but I can't remember the name.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Neal McDonough.
Posted by: Tonypete


So if the script calls for it, there's a jump cut and some stunt lips step in?

Or, nowadays, they just replace him with AI for the scene. I feel sorry for the actress that has to convincingly kiss nothing in front of the green screen, though.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 10:45 PM (VHUov)

120
The Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder" is just finishing on MeTV. This the one with Elly May and the pig people.
Posted by: publius

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I saw someone once who -- either her plastic surgery was that messed up or she had some awful disease -- but she looked like one of those pig people. I WORKED at not staring.

Plastic surgery was suspect because this was in Beverly Hills.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 10:45 PM (XJ22o)

121 Biggest problem with the subways isn't the rats but the other people on the trains...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:45 PM (sKqQm)

122
Due to the Milankovitch cycles, we're on the decreasing leg of the 41K year axial tilt cycle, which varies from 22.1 to 24.5 degrees.

Thus the Tropic lines and the arctic circle lines are retreating at roughly 50' per year.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:45 PM (w6EFb)

123 89 I wonder what his reasoning was to take the role in Braveheart? I mean, he murdered someone in the picture.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:34 PM (1Ff7Z)

You can fake an on-screen stabbing or shooting, but the actors actually kiss in those make-out scenes.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 07, 2026 10:46 PM (2RJDy)

124 Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 10:27 PM (0Htd1)

Metro Area speaking for all of NY State.

Another day ending in "y" ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (oCio0)

125 >> Plastic surgery was suspect because this was in Beverly Hills.

She would've been a raving beauty in the Twilight Zone, then. Maybe that's who actually does the plastic surgery. A Pig Person doctor.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (w6EFb)

126 92
If you traverse the Panama Canal from the Atlantic side to Pacific side, you are traveling eastwards, not westwards.
Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026

***


tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick,

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (C0oZI)

127 I've seen turkeys in MA, seagulls in RI, black flies in NH, cows in VT but no moose in Maine yet.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:30 PM (sKqQm)

Last night I had a momma and a grown up baby moose just outside eating some yummy trees. Yeah...you don't just 'shoo' them away. I tried firing a couple of rounds near, not at them. They didn't give a very much of a f*ck. Kept eating my little trees.
Next year, I'm gonna wonder how good moose will taste🙂

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (96kpa)

128 He was restrained and powerful, and you can't take your eyes off him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:44 PM (56Qyq)

He knows how to get attention. He knows how to act. Even Walter Koenig said so. Also, in one of those Star Trek books, the writers mentioned how he could take over the screen and make you look at him.

He didn't overact in that Nero Wolfe pilot he was in.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

129 Who ya gonna call?

RATBUSTERS!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (vBZcw)

130 We really have two elections now. Election day everyone focuses on. Almost nobody looks at what goes on in early voting not to mention new voter registration.

Talarico got more early votes than Paxton got votes on election day. Fraud doesn't always mean voting machines.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 10:41 PM (viF8m)

In the recent Alberta independence referendum, more than 92% of the mail-in ballots were "remain", and also in favor of more immigration. Definitely some skullduggery there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:48 PM (yky4J)

131 I have had bushes, shrubs, and even some tree sapplings disappear from my property overnight but that's deer (I've seen them) not moose.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 10:48 PM (sKqQm)

132 10 Keep her frozen. Worst Christmas Song Ever. Even worse than Christmas Shoes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:06 PM (1Ff7Z)

It's a catchy song, but it's not a Christmas Song.

Why? Because unless you're Mariah Carey, you can't sing to it. A good Christmas song must be one that any group of people can sing and it still sounds good. George Michael's Last Christmas is almost as bad. The problem with that song is that there's one verse that just keeps repeating itself over and over. Oh, and George Michael was a great singer himself, and you can't sing that song as a group - just a solo. And no average solo singer can match George.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 07, 2026 10:48 PM (0CU3H)

133 Another article gave AI all these vote totals and it spouted out 1 in a trillion odds.

With all the money the US spends, why wouldn't people cheat to control that. And if not having actual people count votes, verify identity, etc .... fraud.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 10:49 PM (Sco7b)

134 63 The Twilight Zone episode "Eye of the Beholder" is just finishing on MeTV. This the one with Elly May and the pig people.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:26 PM (w6EFb)


Who was that democrat politician, IIRC from New York, who had a pig nose? I think his name started with S.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 10:49 PM (0Htd1)

135 @94

>>But...honestly...that seems more likely then 2020 level fraud to me, at least right now.

Since election day no longer exists and there are numerous methodologies for registering, ballot stuffing, ballot harvesting and curing of ballots, and now most ballots are cast before the actual election day, our elections are essentially invalid.

They're still counting in Alaska and the Donk looks like she is going to win, the Cali GOP congressional delegation has been wiped out, and all over the country, if the vote totals are to be believed, the country has now shifted socialist.

We're in a tough spot, and we have a decade long slog just to get back to status quo.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 10:49 PM (XV/Pl)

136 "Alligator in a pool" Oh, Florida, always entertaining!

Posted by: pookysgirl agrees with the pig selection at November 07, 2026 10:49 PM (Wt5PA)

137
And now, the Twilight Zone episode with the masks in one. You now the one where the dying old geezer makes his sorry family wear the masks that reflect their true selves in order to get their inheritance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:50 PM (w6EFb)

138
My favorite TZ was the one about the mannequins. I first saw it as a kid and I was terrified. Then fascinated.

Yeeeeeears later, I was about to settle in for an episode of TZ with a roommate, and he said "Eyah, that show just copies Hitchcock, nothing much to it." The MANNEQUIN episode came on! That haunting final voiceover, "Just how normal are we? Just who are the people we nod our hellos to as we pass on the street?" Roommate admitted it was good.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 10:50 PM (XJ22o)

139 Wikipedia says Big Foot and Sasquatch are two different names for the same cryptid, if he exists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 10:50 PM (ZVgZ4)

140 Or, nowadays, they just replace him with AI for the scene. I feel sorry for the actress that has to convincingly kiss nothing in front of the green screen, though.
Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 10:45 PM (VHUov)

Or just have her kiss the Incredible Hulk in front of a green screen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:50 PM (yky4J)

141 It's a catchy song, but it's not a Christmas Song.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 07, 2026 10:48 PM (0CU3H)

We could make a list of non-Christmas Christmas songs.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:51 PM (1Ff7Z)

142 37th and Sansome is a subway-surface line so no platform. I was kind of face-to-face with this thing. Very memorable even though it was over 40 years ago.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:51 PM (RIvkX)

143 Thus the Tropic lines and the arctic circle lines are retreating at roughly 50' per year.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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Retreat, retreat: Things I've never heard before.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 10:51 PM (C0oZI)

144 >> "Eyah, that show just copies Hitchcock, nothing much to it."

Did he also think Shakespeare was a bore because he just wrote in cliches?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:52 PM (w6EFb)

145 139 Wikipedia says Big Foot and Sasquatch are two different names for the same cryptid, if he exists:

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I'm told this to my shoe shine guy yeti still doubts me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:52 PM (vBZcw)

146 I'm told this to my shoe shine guy yeti still doubts me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:52 PM (vBZcw)

Where does Samsquanch fit in?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 10:53 PM (yky4J)

147 Neil Young was mentioned earlier.

Yeah, I get it he's a bad person.

But since he's going to keep being brought up, I just wanted to go on record. I don't "get" his acoustic adoration. "Harvest" is terrible to me. If you gave me a copy of it, I'd give it away at my earliest convenience.

But...damn... his electric playing is...amazing. Yeah, he could never compete with Clapton, or Van Halen, or Malmsteen. But what he could do is *emote*. I present to you his live version of "Like a Hurricane":

https://tinyurl.com/Like-a-Hurricane

Posted by: Crusader at November 07, 2026 10:53 PM (Cjcf6)

148 I'm told this to my shoe shine guy yeti still doubts me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:52 PM (vBZcw)

Himalaya odds agin it?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:53 PM (1Ff7Z)

149 >>In the recent Alberta independence referendum, more than 92% of the mail-in ballots were "remain", and also in favor of more immigration. Definitely some skullduggery there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
___

Election fraud, it's not only a USA thing. Chairman Xi thinks it should be universal.

Why don't we bomb Tehran and Peking at the same time?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 10:55 PM (C0oZI)

150 He didn't overact in that Nero Wolfe pilot he was in.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026


***
He did not, and he would have made a fine Archie in a series with a decent budget and writing that reflected Stout's true characters. When I reread a scene from a Wolfe now, I can see the young Bill Shatner carrying the dialog off brilliantly.

(Full disclosure: I've been a big Shatner fan for many years, including his Twilight Zone appearances.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:56 PM (56Qyq)

151
The Erf's tilt will bottom out around the year 11,800 AD.

This and the other cycles, like decreasing eccentricity all point to cooling, not warming, of course.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026 10:56 PM (w6EFb)

152 Second joke is very droll

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 07, 2026 10:58 PM (dE3DB)

153 My favorite TZ is when Billy Mumy plays the all-powerful god-child.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:58 PM (RIvkX)

154 (Full disclosure: I've been a big Shatner fan for many years, including his Twilight Zone appearances.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:56 PM (56Qyq)

Even in Big Bad Mama?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:59 PM (1Ff7Z)

155 A good Christmas song must be one that any group of people can sing and it still sounds good. . . .
Posted by: Darrell Harris

*Chet's nuts roasting on an open fire. . . .*

"Damnit Tonypete!! Get your sorry ass down to the Dean of Students!"

iirc, my punishment was to stand at the wall staring at the thermometer for 30 seconds or some such to ensure it didn't move. The Dean loathed the choir director.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 10:59 PM (L/8vZ)

156 Musk has a bid in to buy more land down in Boca Chica.
Hinajosa asks that the state put that on hold until after
the new elected are sworn in.

Puts envelope to forehead and perceives Musk moving major operations to Louisiana and Florida. Operations will remain in Vandenberg for at least two years.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 10:59 PM (C0oZI)

157 Who was that democrat politician, IIRC from New York, who had a pig nose? I think his name started with S.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 10:49 PM (0Htd1)


Cucky Schemer, or the like, I think. Certainly didn’t know how to grill a burger, IIRC.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 10:59 PM (ZVgZ4)

158 Good evening, all. I've got Play Misty for Me on the tube.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
------

Watched 'Richard Jewell' tonight. I was living in Atlanta at the time of the bombing, and so followed things. It's a damned shame that the Atlanta Constitution Journal wasn't sued into the ground.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 10:59 PM (XeU6L)

159 151
The Erf's tilt will bottom out around the year 11,800 AD.
---

I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG!!!


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:00 PM (C0oZI)

160 Neil Young worst concert ever. Ever.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 11:01 PM (RIvkX)

161 My favorite TZ is when Billy Mumy plays the all-powerful god-child.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:58 PM (RIvkX)

Shows the cowardice of adults. But, it would be against the writing code to dispatch a kid.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 11:01 PM (1Ff7Z)

162 Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 10:41 PM (viF8m)

Hey, I commented earlier, but on a dead thread so I don't know if you saw it.

I got an ad on youtube that was straight up "Trump is Putin's puppet" earlier today. I've never seen it before and I think it's pretty curious that someone's funding "political" messaging like that after the election is over. That sort of thing might be something to keep an eye on.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 07, 2026 11:02 PM (vSvIl)

163 And now, the Twilight Zone episode with the masks in one. You now the one where the dying old geezer makes his sorry family wear the masks that reflect their true selves in order to get their inheritance.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 07, 2026


***
Serling himself wrote that one. As he did quite a few of the show's classics . . . and its stinkers. Fortunately he had writers like George Clayton Johnson and Richard Matheson he could rely on, and the show adapted written short stories by those guys and others as well. The magazine market was waning even then, but in the late '50s and early '60s a prolific author could still make a living writing and selling short fiction; and if he sold a short to TV or a novel to the movies, he was really doing well. (Or a novel to TV -- John D. MacDonald did it at least once, with a novel of his being adapted to the Run For Your Life series.)

The TV shows and movies profited as well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 11:02 PM (56Qyq)

164 I am feeling sick to my stomach. I just read on Faceplant that my little East Tenn. county somehow voted for a Democrat state representative.

This, in a county of 25,000 souls who voted 80% for President Trump in the last election. WTF???

I thought I was (relatively) safe here....

sigh

Posted by: Beverly at November 07, 2026 11:03 PM (reMys)

165 Some songs are just anti-Christmas

Posted by: Grandma's Confused Coroner at November 07, 2026 11:03 PM (2RJDy)

166 It's a damned shame that the Atlanta Constitution Journal wasn't sued into the ground.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
---

It is possible that the American people become fed up with the
BS they have been feeding us and turn around on them.
_It's time

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:03 PM (C0oZI)

167 Even though I enjoyed TZ, I really liked The Outer Limits episodes.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 11:03 PM (L/8vZ)

168 (Full disclosure: I've been a big Shatner fan for many years, including his Twilight Zone appearances.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026
*
Even in Big Bad Mama?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026


***
Don't think I've ever seen that. Thus my admiration for him remains intact.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 11:04 PM (56Qyq)

169 They're still counting in Alaska and the Donk looks like she is going to win, the Cali GOP congressional delegation has been wiped out, and all over the country, if the vote totals are to be believed, the country has now shifted socialist.

We're in a tough spot, and we have a decade long slog just to get back to status quo.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 10:49 PM (XV/Pl)

Honey, nobody knows how Alaska is going to turn out. Still waiting for several precincts in the Bush to have their ballots counted, and then we do the RCV voodoo, which makes no sense unless you are all in on the donk cheat. Both Sullivan and Peltola are claiming their wins, but waiting, like the rest of us, to be told by whomever gets laid or paid or however they determine the winner.

Honestly, it's black magic.

Voting up here with RCV is a waste of time and energy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 11:04 PM (5WPt1)

170 We could make a list of non-Christmas Christmas songs.
Posted by: OrangeEnt


I've got several of those in my Christmas playlist.

Yuki Kajiura - Winter
https://youtu.be/xrk4d0UEfL8

Tirill - Winter Roses
https://youtu.be/cpUp2QCz50Y

Kokia - Candle in the Heart
https://youtu.be/6A8QwNLXSYY

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 11:04 PM (VHUov)

171 157 Who was that democrat politician, IIRC from New York, who had a pig nose? I think his name started with S.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 10:49 PM (0Htd1)

Cucky Schemer, or the like, I think. Certainly didn’t know how to grill a burger, IIRC.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 10:59 PM (ZVgZ4)

Not a senator, but a congressman. Not from NY, but from CA.

I present to you...

Henry Waxman.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 07, 2026 11:04 PM (0CU3H)

172 This, in a county of 25,000 souls who voted 80% for President Trump in the last election. WTF???

I thought I was (relatively) safe here....

sigh
Posted by: Beverly at November 07, 2026 11:03 PM (reMys)

It ain't who votes, or how, but who counts those votes.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 11:05 PM (5WPt1)

173 >>..."Trump is Putin's puppet" earlier today. I've never seen it before and I think it's pretty curious that someone's funding "political" messaging like that after the election is over. That sort of thing might be something to keep an eye on.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account
---

Something's coming?
_Bring it

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:05 PM (C0oZI)

174 I got an ad on youtube that was straight up "Trump is Putin's puppet" earlier today. I've never seen it before and I think it's pretty curious that someone's funding "political" messaging like that after the election is over. That sort of thing might be something to keep an eye on.
Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 07, 2026 11:02 PM (vSvIl)
=====
I saw that. Sponsored by "Brave for America" iirc

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 11:06 PM (RIvkX)

175 I think all electronic voting systems are open to easy hacking, hence easy fraud. I know you can still cheat with paper ballots, but at least you have to be willing to burn a church to the ground (LBJ, first election to the senate, had just enough people vote for him to put him over his opponent, and the voters were kind enough to line up to vote in alphabetical order, to boot! Seemed a little odd on election night, so they locked the ballots up in the local church to re-examine in the morning. Quite a shame that little old church burned to ashes overnight with the ballots, too! Hello, Senator Johnson! ).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:07 PM (ZVgZ4)

176 >>In the recent Alberta independence referendum, more than 92% of the mail-in ballots were "remain", and also in favor of more immigration. Definitely some skullduggery there.

Many states don't require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Texas passed a law requiring proof of citizenship to register in 2025 but the law doesn't take effect until 2027.. Between 2022 and 2004 2.9 million people registered to vote in Texas. In those same years over 20 million people registered to vote in states that don't require proof of citizenship.

DataRepublican recently put out a piece detailng a billion, with a bi, dollar campaign run by NGOs to get out the vote for Democrats.

Not all fraud is done by manipulating voting machines. Some is using our lax voting laws against us. Thanks Thune.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 11:08 PM (viF8m)

177 Puts envelope to forehead and perceives Musk moving major operations to Louisiana and Florida. Operations will remain in Vandenberg for at least two years.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 10:59 PM (C0oZI)

I've suggested before, that Musk ought to simply buy Cuba. Simply buy out/pay off the present Communist nomenklatura to retire to some remote country and live a life of quiet luxury, after handing off control of the country to a Politburo of Musk's appointees. The people there are used to having no say in things; why would they complain, especially if the economy got stronger, and they got jobs, and food, and electricity, and gasoline again? Eventually write a Constitution, and hold a plebiscite to ratify it, and let Cuba become a proper country, say after 20 years of being Elon's satrapy.

It just might work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 11:09 PM (yky4J)

178 Waxman is unfortunate looking, as my grandmother would say

Posted by: NCKate at November 07, 2026 11:09 PM (enNUy)

179 Anyone buy six cases of bottled water today?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 11:09 PM (1Ff7Z)

180 I think it was Neal McDonough who had the great interview with the American Veterans Center about Buck Compton (he played him in Band of Brothers). Think several of the actors from the series have interviews there, and some elsewhere, As I recall almost every one said that job, and getting to know the vets they played, affected or changed their lives.

Joe Something-ello who played Eugen Sledge in The Pacific has a great interview at that site (on UToob). Guy seems very squared away. Had grandfather in the war. Felt great responsibility to the legacy of the guys portrayed. I was impressed. Indeed not all actors are mindless idiots.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 11:10 PM (U/Byj)

181 Time for me to shuffle off to the Pillow World, I think. A workout tomorrow morning -- it should be cool -- then I'll have breakfast with the Book Thread to start off my Sunday.

The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space, aka The Murderfluffs, are galloping around. This is their morning and play time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 11:10 PM (56Qyq)

182 ...Honestly, it's black magic.

...

Posted by: tcn in AK
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That's what I've been saying.
_ Xi

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:11 PM (C0oZI)

183
The Miami thugs lose 31-24. So at least the week ends on a happy note.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 11:11 PM (eRlcH)

184 It's a damned shame that the Atlanta Constitution Journal wasn't sued into the ground.
----

Perhaps.

But man, if you had seen their sports section from the 1970s you would have thought you were in heaven!

Posted by: Crusader at November 07, 2026 11:11 PM (Cjcf6)

185 I saw a similar sized one in Boston about 20 or so years ago. Under the platform across the tracks from us while we were waiting for the T.
Doof

Same. In my town just outside Boston, I was walking home one lovely late evening. Saw a critter i thought was a doggie. Nope. A rat...
Oh.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 11:13 PM (96kpa)

186 164 I am feeling sick to my stomach. I just read on Faceplant that my little East Tenn. county somehow voted for a Democrat state representative.

This, in a county of 25,000 souls who voted 80% for President Trump in the last election. WTF???

I thought I was (relatively) safe here....

sigh
Posted by: Beverly at November 07, 2026 11:03 PM (reMys)

Fraud is an equal opportunity employer. I had surgery for an ulcer last year and these last 4 days have resurrected it.
*slides a tall glass of Maalox down to Beverly with a Pepto chaser*

Posted by: TxAnn at November 07, 2026 11:13 PM (itAg7)

187 Last night I had a momma and a grown up baby moose just outside eating some yummy trees. Yeah...you don't just 'shoo' them away. I tried firing a couple of rounds near, not at them. They didn't give a very much of a f*ck. Kept eating my little trees.
Next year, I'm gonna wonder how good moose will taste🙂
Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (96kpa)

Up here, if you plant baby trees, you put a frame up with chicken wire, from about 3 feet to about 6 feet, around it to keep the moose away from it. When my son was small, he asked grandpa why he had such high fences, and of course grandpa told him they had giant rabbits. Talk about a freaked out kid!

The moose this year have cleaned out my raspberries, which is fine, because I cut them down to the ground in the spring and they still grow seven feet tall. Got a mama and her twin yearlings, who behave just like teenagers. She often has to come get them to move on, and the kinda argue with them.

Fun to watch.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 11:13 PM (5WPt1)

188 My favorite TZ is when Billy Mumy plays the all-powerful god-child.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026


***
From the short story by Jerome Bixby, whose work we also know from Trek.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 11:14 PM (56Qyq)

189 We could make a list of non-Christmas Christmas songs.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 10:51 PM (1Ff7Z)

The Love Theme from the movie "Die Hard" always chokes me up.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 07, 2026 11:14 PM (FZzOq)

190 ..Honestly, it's black magic.

...

Posted by: tcn in AK

That's "magic of color"!! Please!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 07, 2026 11:14 PM (L/8vZ)

191 11 I'm in CA and I saw at least six sea lions today. So the map checks out.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 10:07 PM (vBZcw)

Although they're kinda hard to spot in the desert parts...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 11:14 PM (l3cgK)

192 They're still counting in Alaska and...
----

Its criminal. A first world country's election shouldn't be subject to such shenanigans.

Back when Jimmah Carter had a tiny bit of his soul still not devoted to the Devil, he would have declared such an election practice to be a problem.

Posted by: Crusader at November 07, 2026 11:15 PM (Cjcf6)

193 Hey!
{{{{Nurse}}}! {{{{DDS}}}😆😆😆

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 11:16 PM (96kpa)

194 Darrell you beat me to it. Waxman. Yes. "Unfortunate looking". And unfortunate thinking, as I recall.

Tell me this idiotic unconstitutional RCV crap is going away? Wasn't it on the ballot in AK? And - propositions don't have RCV, right?? (lol)

Just today was talking with a buddy about the baffling Dem vote increase (40%) since last mid-term. Has to be a multiple of the all-time record increase. How TF does that happen? JackStraw thanks for that tidbit - we were pondering how the GOP, that had oodles of $$ while the Dems were low-cash this cycle, could produce a tiny fraction of the Dems' turnout. NGOs could help explain it.

Though I still find a 40% delta on votes cast almost impossible to believe. I know something about elections and voting macro data and that kind of increase (or decrease) basically is unheard of in any circumstance.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 11:16 PM (U/Byj)

195 UGA hath woneth

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 11:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

196 Big raindrops
Pouring sideways and the wind is hooting.

Local flooding due to leaves clogging the storm drains.

Power outages. Smells lovely. Window open.

I love where I live.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 07, 2026 11:16 PM (hnU4t)

197 Hey everyone! Don't forget the bike ride in Philly tomorrow! You'll wish you had crawled through broken glass to get there!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 11:17 PM (1Ff7Z)

198 "We're in a tough spot, and we have a decade long slog just to get back to status quo."

Exactly my darkest worry. It's such an unserious, screwed up country. With so many collapsed or nearly collapsed institutions. The most pernicious of which, the judiciary, will now likely not see any improvement for a long time. Sickening.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 11:17 PM (U/Byj)

199 This election doesn’t pas the smell test, as far as I am concerned. You should check out the video “Let My People Go” which came out after the 2020 swindle. It puts out a pretty good reconstruction of the electronic side of cheating in that election. See this link:

https://shorturl.ly/2Y4sk

Goes to YouTube.

“2000 Mules” showed how easy it was manipulate mail-in ballots, but if you can interfere with the counting, it doesn’t matter what the ballots say.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:17 PM (ZVgZ4)

200 Although they're kinda hard to spot in the desert parts...
Posted by: jim
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Graboids

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 11:19 PM (XeU6L)

201 Yup, it's Waxman.
Thank you, Darrell Harris. It drives me crazy when I can't think of something like that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2026 11:19 PM (0Htd1)

202 >>Same. In my town just outside Boston, I was walking home one lovely late evening. Saw a critter i thought was a doggie. Nope. A rat...
Oh.

I lived in Boston during the Big Dig. For those who don't know the area it's right next to Boston Harbor. The construction disturbed the water rats and they moved into the city.

For a few years the prowled the city after dark. Walking home at night you had to keep your head on a swivel.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 11:19 PM (viF8m)

203 The people there are used to having no say in things; why would they complain, especially if the economy got stronger, and they got jobs, and food, and electricity, and gasoline again? Eventually write a Constitution, and hold a plebiscite to ratify it, and let Cuba become a proper country, say after 20 years of being Elon's satrapy.

It just might work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---

A huge statue of Elon at Havana's harbor entrance.
Welcome to Cuba; watch the rockets,
enjoy the entertainment, now go home.

https://youtu.be/YsarXhY4b98&t=46

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:19 PM (C0oZI)

204 OrangeEnt, nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 11:21 PM (U/Byj)

205 Thank you, Darrell Harris. It drives me crazy when I can't think of something like that.
Posted by: nerdygirl
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You're not going to enjoy aging.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 11:21 PM (XeU6L)

206 It's a Saturday. Those who care, do. Those who don't, do not.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 07, 2026 11:21 PM (CHHv1)

207 196 nurse

I so often envy you girl!❣️

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 11:23 PM (96kpa)

208 So a presumably Republican county in East Tennessee was in on the Democrat fraud?

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:23 PM (qWvvZ)

209 Random thought:

I just saw a bit of "Young Frankenstien" and a Star Trek episode. Teri Garr was beautiful.

Posted by: Crusader at November 07, 2026 11:23 PM (Cjcf6)

210 Back when Jimmah Carter had a tiny bit of his soul still not devoted to the Devil, he would have declared such an election practice to be a problem.
Posted by: Crusader at November 07, 2026 11:15 PM (Cjcf6)


Only in third world countries. JC never had the audacity to look for election fraud in the USA. Heavens, if he had looked here, he might have found some, on his side!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:24 PM (ZVgZ4)

211 187 Last night I had a momma and a grown up baby moose just outside eating some yummy trees. Yeah...you don't just 'shoo' them away. I tried firing a couple of rounds near, not at them. They didn't give a very much of a f*ck. Kept eating my little trees.
Next year, I'm gonna wonder how good moose will taste🙂
Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 07, 2026 10:47 PM (96kpa)
_____________________________

Grab yourself one of those pocket sized air horns. I used to use them all the time up in NH for Moose (but also the errant bear that wandered up).

Posted by: Orson at November 07, 2026 11:29 PM (dIske)

212 Somebody loan me a dime
I need to call old times, used to be...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RTh5t8yEqI

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:32 PM (C0oZI)

213 https://youtu.be/YsarXhY4b98&t=46
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:19 PM (C0oZI)

Nice tune. Boz is sort of pigeon-holed as "blue-eyed soul", but that song is really smooth jazz.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 11:32 PM (yky4J)

214 >>Though I still find a 40% delta on votes cast almost impossible to believe. I know something about elections and voting macro data and that kind of increase (or decrease) basically is unheard of in any circumstance.

We do a lot of ra ra stuff around elections and just assume our people will turn out to vote. Democrats don't do that. They organize, learn the laws and how they can exploit them to their benefit and have a ton of money behind them to make it happen.

We get a guy like Scott Presler and think we have it covered. The left has an army of Scott Preslers and a ton of money behind them. Gutting USAID was a big win for us but there are dozens of other foundations, billionaires and foreign sources of money being poured into the NGOs that are still going strong. And they are funding the Democrat turn out machine because Democrats in office send the money back to them.

We are a bunch of amateurs going up against pros. We better get that figured out cause they are playing a completely different game.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 11:34 PM (viF8m)

215 Everyone is saying a shift as big as this week has never happened.

But it has. 2008 Obama wins VA by 6. In 2009 a Republican wins the VA governor by 20. Obama won NJ by 16, in 2009 Chris Christie won the NJ governor race.

Obama wins Illinois by 25 in 2008 a Republican wins the senate race in Illinois in 2010. Scott Brown won in Mass in early 2010, barely a year after Obama won Mass by 30.

This stuff does happen.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:35 PM (qWvvZ)

216 This stuff does happen.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:35 PM (qWvvZ)

Outliers always happen. When outliers become the norm, suspect shenanigans.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 11:37 PM (yky4J)

217 the infidelity joke is the bomb

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 07, 2026 11:37 PM (n0DpO)

218 My favorite TZ is when Billy Mumy plays the all-powerful god-child.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 10:58 PM (RIvkX)

Shows the cowardice of adults. But, it would be against the writing code to dispatch a kid.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 11:01 PM (1Ff7Z)


IIRC, in the original short story, the doctor who delivered him tried to kill him on the spot. That’s why the world just ends at the edge of town. We don’t know if the boy just separated the town from the rest of the universe, or if he just destroyed everything else.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

219 Are outliers pervasive and systemic?

Posted by: NCKate at November 07, 2026 11:40 PM (enNUy)

220 We do a lot of ra ra stuff around elections and just assume our people will turn out to vote. Democrats don't do that. They organize, learn the laws and how they can exploit them to their benefit and have a ton of money behind them to make it happen.

—

I had several Dems show up at my door on behalf of their people running. Not a single Republican door knocker. Granted it’s a “safe” Republican seat. But Texas was too, until it wasn’t.

The left will fight to win in the deepest of red areas because they play the long game. It took 30 years to turn Texas blue.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:40 PM (qWvvZ)

221 178 Waxman is unfortunate looking, as my grandmother would say
Posted by: NCKate at November 07, 2026 11:09 PM (enNUy)

He was killin' it when Phantom of the Opera was big.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 07, 2026 11:40 PM (r7+Q7)

222 Howdy, horde. Happy Caturday!

Thanks for the ONT, 2D's.

Posted by: JQ at November 07, 2026 11:42 PM (rdVOm)

223 IIRC, in the original short story, the doctor who delivered him tried to kill him on the spot. That’s why the world just ends at the edge of town. We don’t know if the boy just separated the town from the rest of the universe, or if he just destroyed everything else.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:38 PM (ZVgZ4)

Interesting.

I've thought about writing a story where some group of hotshot teens get involved with criminal goings on and all get killed because they're not as smart as the criminal gang is. You know, an anti-Hardy Boys or something, but society wouldn't allow a story like that to be written.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 11:42 PM (1Ff7Z)

224 Outliers always happen. When outliers become the norm, suspect shenanigans.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 11:37 PM (yky4J)

2009 and 2010 was full of these examples. 2010 was a massive GOP year where republicans won in all sorts of places they don’t normally win. IIRC 900 state house/senate seats flipped that year, many of them hadn’t been Republican for decades if ever.

That’s what a wave election is like.


Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:44 PM (qWvvZ)

225 It was warm & dry here today, so I raked leaves. They haven't all fallen yet, so must keep up each week or I'll be buried in them.

Posted by: JQ at November 07, 2026 11:45 PM (rdVOm)

226 We are a bunch of amateurs going up against pros. We better get that figured out cause they are playing a completely different game.
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We could start by addressing the obvious, and holding EVERY single one who signed on to the obvious accountable:

* WHY did we not pass the SAVE Act? We had the numbers, we just had a handful of very powerful REPUBLICANS that jerked off at night to fighting Trump. Thune should be forced to caucus with the democrats. We don't need "Republicans" like that literal SELL-OUT.

* WHY did the REPUBLICAN senate never recess? IF they had for even a single day, Trump could have put dozens of Federal judges in place that we'd all like to have.

EVERY SINGLE "Republican" Senator who gavelled even a single "nobody's here" session should be asked point-blank "Why didn't you let the Senate go into recess so President Trump could appoint Federal judges?".

Posted by: Crusader at November 07, 2026 11:46 PM (Cjcf6)

227 >>>We are a bunch of amateurs going up against pros. We better get that figured out cause they are playing a completely different game.

Posted by: JackStraw
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2020 verified China printed 200,000 US vote acceptable IDs.
As of 2025 there are 600,000 'undocumented aliens' in Harris County (Houston), now do Dallas County, Bexar County and all of those border counties. - Then do the anomalous rest of the US.

It's not math.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:47 PM (C0oZI)

228 Here’s what I remember from “Let My People Go”: the cheat doesn’t have to be local. The voting machines are hooked up to the internet, despite assertions to the contrary, and the vote can be manipulated remotely as the election is going on. Really, check out the link -

https://shorturl.ly/2Y4sk

Mind you, the movie is presented in full and is quite long.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:48 PM (ZVgZ4)

229 Other than Fetterman there are no DINOs. Even Fetterman isn’t really one he still votes with the Dems 95%.

We always have 3-5 “Republicans” who are effectively Democrats. Our side is never really a majority, Dems always control the senate.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:48 PM (qWvvZ)

230 Dems always cheat. Of course.

But are we really now saying 100 rural Texas counties that all shifted left were also in on the steal? Because that’s what the accusation is.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:51 PM (qWvvZ)

231 I remember the truck loads of pre-voted ballots pulling up in Baltimore, I think, at 2 in the morning, back in 2020. Apparently printed in China, with the votes already on them.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:52 PM (ZVgZ4)

232 Great day in the North Woods. 8 of us in camp. Saw 49 deer today as a group. 1 caterpillar got a concussion. It made the mistake of walking across SiL's hand. Niece had a squirrel run through her stand - twice. She was not pleased. Nor was the squirrel. A fork buck walked by my nephew, lifted it's tail, and farted - now known as the Gassy Fork. Brisket for dinner and washed down with adult beverages.
Thanks for the ONT, D's.

Posted by: scampydog at November 07, 2026 11:53 PM (LVaYG)

233 I cut down all the limbs the pole saw could reach before the leaves fell. Dragged them to the curb for pickup.
Lawn tractor has an amendment to its grass exhaust in the form of a flap that can be lowered thus forcing the leaves to take a couple of extra laps around the blades. The balance is blown as a scarf around the tree trunks.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:53 PM (C0oZI)

234 We always have 3-5 “Republicans” who are effectively Democrats. Our side is never really a majority, Dems always control the senate.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
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If we had a Nancy Pelosi what would she do with those 3-5 Republicans?
_3/4" galvanized

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 11:55 PM (C0oZI)

235 The cheat doesn’t have to be local! The electronic voting machines are hooked up to the internet! See my note and link at 228.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 11:56 PM (ZVgZ4)

236 >>But are we really now saying 100 rural Texas counties that all shifted left were also in on the steal? Because that’s what the accusation is.

Stop focusing on things like voting machines and corrupt election officials. They absolutely exist in some areas but obviously not in all.

Again, Texas registered nearly 3 million new voters between 2022 and 2024. And none of them were required to prove citizenship. Texas has something like 5 million illegals, probably more. Illegals are not eligible to vote. But they do and it's fraud.

Fraud comes in many forms not just electronic voting machines. There's a well financed army of NGOs that aren't reported on dedicated to making this stuff happen.

Unless of course you think Talarico and Hinojosa truly represent Texas voters and people are just so angry over a temporary spike in gas prices they voted for people who want the worst for them.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 11:59 PM (viF8m)

237 The VA/NJ/MA (remember Scott Brown) examples really aren't comparable, as they're off-year elections (not even years).

2010 was indeed an earthquake, down even to county level. But had nothing resembling this week for the Senate. 1980 probably was comparable for the Senate. And indeed 1980 had every reason to be a giant wave election, national circumstances were as bad as they've been since WWII.

Today? Middling positive, overall, slowly improving economy with select items (crime, border) *massively* improved over just 2 years ago. Nothing resembling 1980.

Anyway, I don't think a 40% increase in votes has been seen before. In prez cycles, an ambitious goal is to boost your vote by 5% (was involved in one such). 40%? Seems insane. Haven't bothered to check, but assume some election geeks will be laying out all the relevant context and details soon.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 11:59 PM (U/Byj)

238 >>>But are we really now saying 100 rural Texas counties that all shifted left were also in on the steal? Because that’s what the accusation is.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
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No. That's not the accusation, at all.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 12:01 AM (C0oZI)

239 If we had a Nancy Pelosi what would she do with those 3-5 Republicans?
_3/4" galvanized
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Probably leave her husband so bored that having fun with a hammer seemed like an upgrade.

Posted by: Crusader at November 08, 2026 12:02 AM (Cjcf6)

240 I'm not convinced anyone in Charlotte is concerned with the economy and gas prices when traffic at 10 a.m. on a Saturday is bumper to bumper on all roads and everywhere that costs money is absolutely packed with people.

Posted by: NCKate at November 08, 2026 12:04 AM (enNUy)

241 Posted by: quick! to the COBmobile

Have you seen the COBmobile?
Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ)

What is it? A '72 Chevy Van with a psychedelic paint scheme and orange shag carpet half-way up the interior?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 08, 2026 12:04 AM (qx7Zg)

242 If we had a Nancy Pelosi what would she do with those 3-5 Republicans?
_3/4" galvanized

Posted by: Braenyard
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And then beat any insider trading info they have out of them.

Posted by: scampydog at November 08, 2026 12:05 AM (LVaYG)

243 But are we really now saying 100 rural Texas counties that all shifted left were also in on the steal? Because that’s what the accusation is.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez
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No. That's not the accusation, at all.
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Agreed. Its the opposite. Its not likely that counties that are comprised of farmers and ranchers woke up one day and decided "What I'd really like is higher taxes, unlimited abortion, and liberal treatment of those wetbacks who sneak into my country."

Posted by: Crusader at November 08, 2026 12:07 AM (Cjcf6)

244 I've thought about writing a story where some group of hotshot teens get involved with criminal goings on and all get killed because they're not as smart as the criminal gang is. You know, an anti-Hardy Boys or something, but society wouldn't allow a story like that to be written.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 11:42 PM (1Ff7Z)


In the original”Tokyo Revengers,” Ep. 1, young middle school punks go to fight a gang at another school, get beaten, and are forced to serve the rival gang the rest of their school years. They ruined their lives. BUT, it’s a time-travel story and the protagonist gets a chance to change the events of the past enough to make the world a little better, until it all goes down in flames. But he gets to go back again and make things a little better still, but they always go wrong at some point. The anime is now in its 4th season, and things are still going wrong.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 08, 2026 12:08 AM (ZVgZ4)

245 The first meme here would be a good ending for a fashion error post/section.

I don't see any of the 'Ettes making this mistake. It would be intentional!

https://youtu.be/PW7qB2C7jtQ

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 08, 2026 12:08 AM (qx7Zg)

246 >>>A fork buck walked by my nephew, lifted it's tail, and farted - now known as the Gassy Fork.
Brisket for dinner and washed down with adult beverages.
Thanks for the ONT, D's.

Posted by: scampydog
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Go ahead, try to make me envious, just try...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 12:09 AM (C0oZI)

247 212

One of the absolute best songs!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 12:10 AM (96kpa)

248 EVERY SINGLE "Republican" Senator who gavelled even a single "nobody's here" session should be asked point-blank "Why didn't you let the Senate go into recess so President Trump could appoint Federal judges?".

Posted by: Crusader at November 07, 2026 11:46 PM (Cjcf6)

Posted by: Crusader at November 08, 2026 12:13 AM (Cjcf6)

249
Yes, it turned out to be Teri Garr night on MeTV. She was in McCloud too, IIRC. They haven't run that in a while.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 08, 2026 12:14 AM (w6EFb)

250 The Color Revolutionaries may think they ran this coup but they were only players. The power behind this coup, the biggest player in this coup is Xi.
China is at war with us and no one with authority will acknowledge it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 12:17 AM (C0oZI)

251 >>The Color Revolutionaries may think they ran this coup but they were only players. The power behind this coup, the biggest player in this coup is Xi.
China is at war with us and no one with authority will acknowledge it.

Why would you think they don't know who they are working with?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 12:21 AM (viF8m)

252 232

Nicely done day, Scampy!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 12:22 AM (96kpa)

253 We are a Socialist now.

Like France? The Northeast will have parades!!!

Posted by: Case at November 08, 2026 12:30 AM (En+fz)

254 >>>Why would you think they don't know who they are working with?

Posted by: JackStraw
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They know who they are working with. The exception is they think they are top dog, running the show but they are merely lackeys.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 12:32 AM (C0oZI)

255 >>>Why would you think they don't know who they are working with?

Posted by: JackStraw
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They know who they are working with. The exception is they think they are top dog, running the show but they are merely lackeys.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 12:32 AM (C0oZI)

Lackeys? More like Hurdy-gurdy monkeys.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 08, 2026 12:34 AM (qx7Zg)

256 I'm terribly burned out on this political shit. Democrats are obviously completely evil. But Republicans are a bunch of do-nothing pussies. How will all of this shit go?!!

Anyway -
'Sleep well because tomorrow we need more energy for our questionable ideas.'

Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 08, 2026 12:34 AM (96kpa)

257 So true, Braenyard.

Even rainman mentioned the other night, that (he thinks) he's gonna be some sort of "commissar" LOL!

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 12:35 AM (rdVOm)

258 It's not math.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
......

Thank goodness. All this geography is bad enough.

Posted by: wth at November 08, 2026 12:38 AM (oq9dX)

259 We are a bunch of amateurs going up against pros. We better get that figured out cause they are playing a completely different game.

Posted by: JackStraw
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I will not belabor, and don't expect this to make it anywhere in particular, and I won't be surprised if it's not received well at all - but I argued this very thing to you a few times this last year and you rejected it out of hand.

I told you politely, and will continue to tell you so, the Left is always on to the next three wars while R's (those who even bother, or who aren't on the other side) fight the last.

Whatever happened Tuesday is probably evidence of this, whether it's fraud, targeted psy ops, or just people generally fed up of the Republican brand. Or all three plus some so-called Trump and incumbent party "fatigue".

Republicans refused to become what they have long claimed they are, despite Trump giving them every chance.

Posted by: ... at November 08, 2026 12:41 AM (vE0+H)

260
Watched 'Richard Jewell' tonight. I was living in Atlanta at the time of the bombing, and so followed things. It's a damned shame that the Atlanta Constitution Journal wasn't sued into the ground.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

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Damned shame. Does the movie do justice to the story in your opinion?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 12:45 AM (XJ22o)

261 I have been super clear since June, since the DSA psy op landed on this country, that things were going to get *weird*.

I thought this op was paving the way for 2028 - and in a way it has. I thought they were going to boil the frog slow until we were just kind of in a new reality. But instead I think we've been dropped straight into the pot with the lid going on.

I cannot stress enough that any "war" between the DNC establishment and the DSA is totally phony. People on our side will happily continue to believe otherwise because it suits them, that's on them.

Maybe some or even many of the participants on each side of the war don't know it, but it is clearly a top down operation. The DSA is being used to swerve this country as far left as fast as possible. Tuesday was the opening salvo. There is much, much more to come.

And I fear the Republican "fight" is gonna be what it's always been sans Trump. A red carpet.

Posted by: ... at November 08, 2026 12:46 AM (vE0+H)

262 Damned shame. Does the movie do justice to the story in your opinion?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2026 12:45 AM (XJ22o)

I didn't know the story that well but it certainly did him justice. Not a fun time.

Posted by: ... at November 08, 2026 12:46 AM (vE0+H)

263 >>>Whatever happened Tuesday is probably evidence of this, whether it's fraud, targeted psy ops, or just people generally fed up of the Republican brand. Or all three plus some so-called Trump and incumbent party "fatigue".

Republicans refused to become what they have long claimed they are, despite Trump giving them every chance.

Posted by: ...
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Now ways is that equivocation or virtue signaling, no ways at all.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 12:52 AM (C0oZI)

264 >>They know who they are working with. The exception is they think they are top dog, running the show but they are merely lackeys.

We are in the middle of a red green revolution going on around the world. The riots in Europe aren't an isolated thing. The same groups behind them are behind what's going on here and they have been for years. The BLM/antifa stuff is the same in Europe now as it was here in 2020.

There are politician, billionaires, funders, organizers and street muscles, color revolutionaries but it's all part of the same organization. We're in a war and have been for some time. Not a conventional one but a war nonetheless.

Neville Singham is funding a lot of the riots in Europe. His wife, Jodi Evans, and her group Code Pink is behind the communist movement in the US. Singham is CCP. Just one example.

They know who they are working with. We, for the most part, don't know who we are fighting.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 12:56 AM (viF8m)

265 There are politician, billionaires, funders, organizers and street muscles, color revolutionaries but it's all part of the same organization. We're in a war and have been for some time. Not a conventional one but a war nonetheless.
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It's worth pointing out that those who wage war by unconventional means, and for the sake of argument, let's look at jihadis, do so because they cannot win the war if it goes conventional.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 08, 2026 01:03 AM (vSvIl)

266 Good Evening., All.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 08, 2026 01:07 AM (PKL0q)

267 >>It's worth pointing out that those who wage war by unconventional means, and for the sake of argument, let's look at jihadis, do so because they cannot win the war if it goes conventional.

What you said.

Lay Down Sally.

Goodnight morons.

https://tinyurl.com/muark36c

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2026 01:12 AM (viF8m)

268 The Mariah Carey picture above reminds me of my nightmare...after working over Christmas at Taco John's, I got kinda sick of the song Feliz Navidad.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 08, 2026 01:13 AM (G7kj/)

269 268 The Mariah Carey picture above reminds me of my nightmare...after working over Christmas at Taco John's, I got kinda sick of the song Feliz Navidad.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 08, 2026 01:13 AM (G7kj/)

https://tinyurl.com/bdee5n38

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 08, 2026 01:17 AM (l3cgK)

270 I'm just glad that Dad didn't have to see this election. (or the coof BS)

After 8 years of "that lying, arrogant sonofabitch" [o'zero] his blood pressure was way up.

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2026 01:21 AM (rdVOm)

271 Hi Horde!

Long fun day. Alarm went off at 6 to go shooting with my 17yo and 11yo (1st and 4th of 6). You have to get up early because the rock pit fills up fast. We met a lot of friendly people there. The rifle you all helped me zero at the MoMe shot great. I forgot to bring any shotgun shells, but there was still plenty to shoot. My 11yo did pretty well for safe gun handling---not perfect, but I was proud of her---and she never put down the 10/22, 'til it was 1 p.m. and she was starving. She loved to spread around the orange clay pigeons I didn't get to use, and blow them to bits.

This afternoon the 17yo made homemade Ramen with about 20 ingredients, half of which I'd never heard of before. Actually he started yesterday because he had to do something to the pork belly: bind it up in butcher's twine and marinade it I think. I think it was more work than he expected, and dinner was pretty late. I admit when I try a new thing in the kitchen, I'm the same way. In any case it was soooo good.

Posted by: frammish at November 08, 2026 01:52 AM (rcENI)

272 I canned some very spicy pepper jelly while the Ramen was cooking. My in-laws gave me a handful of serranos a couple weeks ago. My recipe called for 4-5 cups of peppers, so I added jalapenos, Fresnos, and a few Thai chilis. Got maybe 1.5 quarts in 4 jars.

Posted by: frammish at November 08, 2026 01:54 AM (rcENI)

273 The Mariah Carey picture above reminds me of my nightmare...after working over Christmas at Taco John's, I got kinda sick of the song Feliz Navidad.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 08, 2026 01:13 AM (G7kj/)

*whispers* Cha cha chacha...

Posted by: pookysgirl, ducking and running at November 08, 2026 01:55 AM (Wt5PA)

274 Loved the ONT tonight Disco & Dino!

I knew South America was far east, but I never thought about the other details.

So the joke is that no one reads the content, but I never hear anyone say they skip listening to the content. That's the part I usually forget. But tonight I remembered. It's great to have some music.

Posted by: frammish at November 08, 2026 01:57 AM (rcENI)

275 Except every time I leave a comment, the song stops!

Do you all have some secret browser plugin to make using this site reasonable? Like how do you have a conversation? I just keep refreshing the page. Maybe the awkwardness is part of the charm.

Posted by: frammish at November 08, 2026 02:00 AM (rcENI)

276 And also, I think Oregon's unofficial state animal should be nutria.

Posted by: frammish at November 08, 2026 02:01 AM (rcENI)

277 Except every time I leave a comment, the song stops!

Use the "watch on youtube" button and let it play in another tab, then refreshing this tab doesn't kill it.

Do you all have some secret browser plugin to make using this site reasonable?

You're funny!

Like how do you have a conversation? I just keep refreshing the page. Maybe the awkwardness is part of the charm.
Posted by: frammish


And now you're serious.

Posted by: mikeski, awkward yes, charming no at November 08, 2026 02:08 AM (VHUov)

278 Poland hasn't settled down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 10:44 PM (C0oZI)
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They're lying leftist Polish media has settled down quite nicely. The truth about the mass murderer in Krakow:

https://tinyurl.com/2v9c3cf8

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 02:14 AM (Y2WuJ)

279 They're Their

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 02:24 AM (Y2WuJ)

280 They're lying leftist Polish media has settled down quite nicely. The truth about the mass murderer in Krakow:

https://tinyurl.com/2v9c3cf8

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 02:14 AM (Y2WuJ)
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Addendum:

https://tinyurl.com/5cbjrma7

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 02:28 AM (Y2WuJ)

281 Not a clue how Nawrocki and his pushback are doing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 02:28 AM (C0oZI)

282 Not a clue how Nawrocki and his pushback are doing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 02:28 AM (C0oZI)
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Protests in the street. That's not gonna do it.

But we need to worry much more about America. You will be hunted!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 02:38 AM (Y2WuJ)

283 But we need to worry much more about America. You will be hunted!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
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Some people seek rude awakenings.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 02:40 AM (C0oZI)

284 Buenas noches amigos y amigas.
Hasta mañana.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2026 03:07 AM (C0oZI)

285 You will be hunted? I welcome the game.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 03:24 AM (8Uo7a)

286 You will be hunted? I welcome the game.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 03:24 AM (8Uo7a)
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The best defense is a good offense. Nothing less.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 08, 2026 03:25 AM (C6GAH)

287 Biden's Dog, Forewarned is forearmed.

I see Eisenkot is getting the choice to form a government.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 08, 2026 03:28 AM (8Uo7a)

288 .
NOOD

Pixy is here with the Tech News

NOOD!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 08, 2026 04:09 AM (O7YUW)

289 "How many assholes are there on this blog?

Why all of us, sweetie!"

My people, at last.

Posted by: Strick at November 08, 2026 05:46 AM (p659H)

290 I thought the State Animal of Vermont was the mosquito.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 08, 2026 09:42 AM (4NO2D)

Saturday Evening Movie Post [moviegique]: You Can See Everything

I had no real knowledge of Elizabeth Holmes or Theranos going into this movie. Just a vague sense that she had scammed people with a ridiculous medical device that purported to do all kinds of things and didn't.

Do I know any more now? 

I don't know.

Elizabeth Holmes

"Why would I deceive you?"

I do think this an exceptional documentary that earns its 175 minute runtime and is a fascinating look at some complex characters. In some ways, it's a documentary about Nathan Fielder. What I think is especially commendable is that, for all its staged elements—which are overtly staged, with an Amanda Seyfried filling in for Elizabeth Holmes—I think it is actually a documentary, as opposed to a narrative that Fielder and co-director Lance Oppenheim want us to believe.

It's not that there's not a point-of-view, it's that the point-of-view is very clear and guileless. Or "guileless appearing" as it's kind of hard to come out of this movie without wondering if everything is manipulation and performative.

I mean, not just in the movie, but everywhere.

I have my own take, of course, but let's start with the basics: Fielder is selected by Holmes and her husband Billy Evans to do the documentary because Fielder thinks "outside the box". Holmes is not really aware of Fielder's work, nor of Abbot and Costello and their "Who's on First?" routine, a sketch she doesn't understand when they watch it. She laughs, but because of the confusion, not because she understands the grammatical roots of the humor.

Holmes, you see, is weird. 

Billy Evans and Nathan Fielder

As it turns out, "weird" is a pretty big club.

We don't know all the ways that she is weird, but one way is an affect where she smiles and makes a lot of direct eye contact with whomever she's talking to. She's a distaff hide-the-pain-Harold, essentially, and this affect makes her very easy to make snap judgements about. 

And what I had heard about this documentary was that it was akin to In Cold Blood, where we learned (decades later) that Truman Capote had a thing for one of his cold-blooded killers and so altered the facts to protect his love interest. The suggestion has been made that Fielder fell under Holmes' spell like so many others and therefore is hiding something damaging about her. In fact, Seyfried herself makes this suggestion toward the end of the movie.

But this is remarkably shallow, and shallowness is a kind of through-line of the documentary.

Holmes invites Fielder to actually live with them for the last few weeks before she starts her eleven year sentence, and after a while he takes her up on that, and we do, in fact, see a whole lot. Too much, at times. Probably the number one thing you hear about the movie, besides the clip of Holmes where she says "Why would I deceive you?" with her affect in full flower, is that there is nudity in the film, and it's Evans and his whangdoodle.

This was his idea, apparently. But it's not particularly revealing. (Is that irony?) He's an odd character, for sure, but he's also in the oddest of situations. The couple and their two kids (Holmes has had a baby a month prior) are trying to max family time before she goes away, which creates some friction for Fielder & Co., especially with Evans, who comes across as overbearing at times, and brittle.

But then he's staring down a decade of being a single dad, essentially, to two young children. The peril of the same sort of shallow snap judgement applies here.

Most "documentaries" are fine with this. They give you villains, heroes, etc., etc., etc., to tell the story they want to tell. Here we see bits and pieces of things that allow multiple narratives to be built, and it feels more honest for that. We don't see "the mask drop," which is what you'd expect if Holmes were a sociopath. Evans and Holmes are devoted to each other, but they lack unctuous presentation of, e.g., the stereotypical Christian evangelist who presents himself as devoted and turns out to be a bully who's banging hookers on the side. 

Holmes is devoted to her children, and the smiling affect she has goes away when she's experiencing grief or worry or regret—and less so when she's afraid. The affect—the thing she's most called out for, that people call a red flag—works against her, I think. Her natural charm, such as it is, overcomes that affect rather than being a feature of it, or helped in any way by it.

In fact, to me, it looks like PTSD. (And looking it up now, apparently that was part of her unsuccessful legal defense.)  To me, also, she looked increasingly like a woman who abdicated responsibility to the man in her life, and in ways that are only unusual in their extremity. 

Amanda Seyfried and a crowd of people dancing rapturously in 18th century clothing.

I was unable to find a picture of Seyfried in this film, so enjoy this picture of her in her low-budget Oscar-bid musical flop, "The Testament of Ann Lee".

They watch "The Dropout," a Hulu series where Amanda Seyfried plays "a character based on Holmes", which is the actress' dodge for the slander that results in abuse for Holmes once she's in prison. Fielder brings Seyfried in to re-enact scenes that happened before the cameras, and the jail scenes, and begins by showing her how devastated Holmes is by the series.

Throughout the doc, Seyfried goes through a series of interesting reactions. At first, she comes off like she's an inch deep, blowing off the idea that anything she did might have a real effect on Holmes, and besides she deserves it. Then she acts out a series of deeper examinations—only to come back around to it's just television and besides, Holmes deserves it.

There's a scene early on where Evans takes eggs away that Holmes is scrambling to scramble them properly. (Seriously, I was watching this and thinking "That's no way to scramble eggs!") Holmes doesn't seem to mind, but Seyfried latches on to this to decide that Evans is controlling and destructive. Then the actress meets with Evans and the two are particularly antagonistic.

Seyfried opens with attacks on his sexual prowess. The situation itself seems more than a little contrived. The two walk into Evans place, and Evans says he hasn't had sex for 899 days. (He's counting!) Fielder asks him if he's good at it, and Evans response with something like "I'm great at it." This is a weird conversation, just for starters.

But then Seyfried seeks to humiliate him by claiming she lied to every man she ever slept with. This dovetails nicely with the whole premise of whether one knows when someone is lying to you, but is meant to highlight Evans supposed narcissism. 

On the other hand, it reminded me of the idea that you can tell someone is stupid when you say something like "Men are generally taller than women" and they respond with "My sister is taller than my brother," as if that were a rebuttal. This is almost the inverse: "I'm good at sex" gets rebutted with "I've never had good sex."

Also, holy cow. How dysfunctional is that? A Wall Street Journal article's headline claims that Seyfried is the only trustworthy character in the film, which is a bold claim since she's apparently lied to every man she's ever been intimate with. (I won't dignify the article by reading it, which leaves me free to speculate that this either goes unaddressed or is brushed aside with "Everyone lies about sex." Remember that chestnut?)

For his part, Evans antagonizes Seyfried over her unkind comments in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination.

At this point, Evans has been raising his kids for two years on his own. He's also been using his Power of Attorney to do things like post to Holmes' Twitter account. Seyfried finds it appalling that he should have the Power of Attorney, but given that Holmes is in jail, it seems reasonable to me. Both Fielder and Seyfried are alarmed at how Evans claims that he and Holmes are essentially of one mind, and he doesn't even have to talk to her to know what she would want.

Sounds sinister, right? Then at the end of the movie, Holmes says the same thing: That she knows Evans' mind and doesn't even need to talk to him to know what he thinks about things. She has whole conversations with him alone in her cell.

Seyfried says she would break the two up if she could. This is the inch-deep thing re-surfacing. She says this even as we're all aware that Evans has relocated his house to Texas to be near her, so he can take the kids every weekend, and does daily calls to whatever the limit is.

Middle-shot of Fielder and Holmes talking over the back of a couch in a cabin.

Seyfried also acted very impressed by this seaside rental, which I didn't quite understand.

Speaking of inch-deep: Holmes understanding of the device she is credited with being in charge of is less than mine, and I'm only going on what she said during the movie. That is, she describes the device not like a software engineer, not like a chemical engineer, but like a pamphlet trying to sell the device to someone who is not very smart. I got the principle—how such a thing could theoretically work, and what it would take to make it work, and what kind of device it would have to be—and I wouldn't need to say a word about "the cloud". 

Some people say this is all part of the ruse to which I say, it's a very convincing ruse. And of course, "the ruse" often becomes "the thing" after a while. Politics is composed almost entirely of people playing dumb, to the extent that they eventually are no longer playing.

In a way, everyone in the movie is doing what Holmes did: Using the abilities they have to get attention, acclaim, money, allies—while brushing aside responsibilities they don't want to deal with. In Holmes case, this may well be the financial stuff that got her into trouble, and the engineering stuff that got her into trouble, and the marketing stuff that got her into trouble. 

For Seyfried, it's "It's just fucking television" and witch hunting.

I think Fielder came in wanting to expose Holmes, but he didn't find much to expose. I think he toyed with the "controlled by men" thing, but he doesn't dig into Holmes' older lover who guided her through the Theranos project (and is serving even more time). And while it's clear he finds aspects of Holmes relationship with Evans weird, he also says he sees genuine love and a real family unit. 

The result, I think, is something more honest than the usual documentary. It doesn't tell you what to think because I don't think Fielder himself is sold on any of the easy narratives. 

Meanwhile, quite a few things charged my tinfoil hat. The media machine is in full swing in every aspect of this case, like it's a gremlin on the wing of the airplane and I'm William Shatner. The media creates this character, the media hypes the company, and it's not even a question of whether or not they'll turn on a dime and destroy the character. It's all grist for the media mill. If Theranos was on to something, and the pharmaceutical companies decided it needed to die so they could steal all the patents, would the media then fall into line and destroy what they created? 

That's a rhetorical question, of course, independent of whether Theranos was on to anything.

I'm reminded, for some reason of Wilhelm Reich, a mid-century quack who developed a theory of life-force called "orgones" which I presume is complete nonsense, and which the FDA—inspired by libel printed in The New Republic—responded by cracking down on him with utter savagery, including destroying much of his written work—well out of scope of their already unconstitutional charter.

I also thought of Martha Stewart, thrown into jail not because of insider trading, which is the smear that attaches to her, but because somebody wanted her in jail.

There is an object lesson in this film, I think, but I'm not sure anyone involved in making it knew what it was.

Holmes interacting with her child while Nathan Fielder watches on.

She had children! This is totally a manipulation tactic and not a woman in love looking at what's probably her last chance!

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1

I love me some AI!

Now to see if I did anything disastrous here.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:33 PM (K40fF)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 07, 2026 07:33 PM (NcvvS)

3 Long one today guys, sorry.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:33 PM (K40fF)

4 Thanks, moviegique!

Posted by: Nazdar at November 07, 2026 07:33 PM (NcvvS)

5 You're welcome, Nazdar!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:35 PM (K40fF)

6 I'm sure I'll watch "You Can See Everything" when I can see it for free. Looks interesting.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:35 PM (Jr5Lq)

7 "Lilly Turner" (1933) Way better than expected! Recommended. While ogling Chatterton's gams, don't forget to watch your glands.

"Marked Woman" (1937) Hollaback girl Bette Davis sasses the wrong high-class clip-joint owner. I love the way she perfectly modulates her fiery glares: always just enough, never too much too soon.

"The Bad Sister" (1931) Bette Davis' first feature. Sidney Fox is the bad sister, Bette gets the wallflower sister part. I wish that they had been cast the other way round. Bogie is the cad.
youtube.com/watch?v=Yws12DzwCtU

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:37 PM (Jr5Lq)

8 "Star City" (2026) Apple TV miniseries, one season so far. Grim, oppressive fantasy drama of the Soviet manned space program. I enjoyed it.

"The Client" (1994) It's OK until unforgivably stupid third act.
youtube.com/watch?v=IqNKu2KnUK4

"Proof of Life" (2000) Somebody please make a fan cut with all the Meg Ryan scenes edited out.
youtube.com/watch?v=PmL0UcBQFCI

"American Assassin" (2017) It held my interest to the end.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:37 PM (Jr5Lq)

9 "Heat" (1995) Michael Mann's love letter to Los Angeles, and to all the shades of the color blue. (I wish him a quick recovery from his recent gunshot wound.) I think I've rewatched Heat more times than any other movie: my head is all the way UP it, and for me, the action IS the juice.

"Alpha Dog" (2006) Good as drama, but far from the true story. Ben Foster brings the crazy, Shawn Hatosy brings the scary.

"Donnie Brasco" (1997) The intensity builds until PITA Anne Heche gets a well earned slap, bringing welcome catharsis.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:38 PM (Jr5Lq)

10 Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:32 PM
......

Man, somebody can type!

Posted by: wth at November 07, 2026 07:38 PM (oq9dX)

11 | Man, somebody can type!

When I published my technical first book many, many years ago, it was 800 pages long. My grandfather looked at it and exclaimed, "You typed all that?!"

(And 300 pages more, and the typing was the easy part.)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:41 PM (K40fF)

12 Not exactly a zombie movie, more like Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but-

We saw a Japanese horror movie streaming on Shudder titled, "New Group". It kinda fits in with the events of this week.

The story is set in a Japanese high School where one boy is seen in the school yard on his hands and knees. Soon other students are joining the form a gymnastic pyramid. The school officials begin supporting the student pyramid and it grows larger and larger as it attracts more people. And then things get weird.

This is one of those individual vs the group stories.

I won't tell you that it's a great movie, but it's entertaining in WTF way and definitely keeps your interest as you want to see how things work out. You'll probably be surprised.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 07, 2026 07:41 PM (YSUhf)

13 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 07:42 PM (Ia/+0)

14 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 07:42 PM (Ia/+0)

15 Thanks for the movie thread.

It may have been the beer but I couldn't get through 'Smile.' I found it boring, and with all the inter-racial stuff, it felt like a lecture.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 07:43 PM (Sco7b)

16 Hello, Skip.

Hello, Skip.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:43 PM (K40fF)

17 13
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip

14
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip
.......

Good evening Skip
Good evening Skip

Posted by: wth at November 07, 2026 07:46 PM (oq9dX)

18
Is sounds like nutty people making a nutty documentary about other nutty people.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 07:47 PM (eRlcH)

19 This thread has a Skip.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:47 PM (MWfyi)

20 I think there's an echo in here.

Posted by: wth at November 07, 2026 07:47 PM (oq9dX)

21 Well, obviously they should've turned development of the device over to the Somalis.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 07:47 PM (ndZc7)

22
Hiya Skip!

Posted by: four seasons at November 07, 2026 07:48 PM (/QHx4)

23 Aw. Quit teasing Skip. Anyone can make a mistake can make a mistake.

Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 07:49 PM (lJ0H4)

24 This thread has a Skip.
Posted by: fd
......

or two.

Posted by: wth at November 07, 2026 07:50 PM (oq9dX)

25 I've had more than enough of this whole story. Has it been documented, canonized, and monetized enough?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 07:50 PM (RIvkX)

26 So, did you come away with it that, rather than being a con artist, Holmes was a true believer and that belief allowed her to convince other stupid people who thought they were really smart?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 07:50 PM (Y/06r)

27 Limetown is a 10 half hour episode syfy limited series on Prime. First, the good news. I pretty much liked it. Hundreds of the best and brightest scientists found the isolated utopian community of Limetown where they do neuroscience stuff. All is well and good for a while until a panic 911 call comes in. When the responders finally get there, there is not a soul in the place other than the body of their guru who has been chained to a pole and burned. Now it's 15 years later and nobody knows what happened or where the scientists are. APR (American Public Radio) reporter (and lesbian) girl boss whose beloved uncle is among the missing investigates. What follows is a good syfy mystery with an unexpected amount of real human emotion.
Now for the not so good. It's rather bloated. Instead of 10 half hour episodes, they could've made two or three hour episodes that would been much tighter. And it's woke. Hero is a girl boss lesbian and, as is usually case, the lezbo stuff is pointless virtue signaling. Girl boss is rather shockingly morally flexible and leaves a trail of dead bodies in her wake as she pursues TRUTH.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 07:51 PM (ndZc7)

28 I caught a netflix doc on SCTV that I enjoyed this week. Very heavy on interviews with the cast.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 07, 2026 07:52 PM (r7+Q7)

29 Nice summary, 'Gique. I'm intrigued and will catch it on VOD/streaming, because three hours for a documentary, pseudo or otherwise, is too much for lumbar or bladder.

Our local TV reviewer said to watch it in a theater so you'll remain fully engaged, so that's another valid take.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 07:52 PM (kpS4V)

30
"In July 2011, Holmes was introduced to former U.S. Secretary of State George Shultz, who joined the Theranos board of directors that month. Over the next three years, Shultz helped to introduce almost all the outside directors on the "all-star board", which included William Perry (former U.S. Secretary of Defense), Henry Kissinger (former U.S. Secretary of State), Sam Nunn (former U.S. Senator), Bill Frist (former U.S. Senator, senate majority leader and heart-transplant surgeon), Gary Roughead (Admiral, USN, retired), Jim Mattis (General, USMC), Richard Kovacevich (former Wells Fargo Chairman and CEO) and Riley P. Bechtel (chairman of the board and former CEO at Bechtel Group)."

What were they thinking? What oversight did they provide? Were they just picking up a check? (think I know the answer to that)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 07:53 PM (eRlcH)

31 25 I've had more than enough of this whole story. Has it been documented, canonized, and monetized enough?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 07:50 PM (RIvkX)

Probably a long time ago, yeah. Expect a bunch more, tho'.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:54 PM (K40fF)

32 What were they thinking? What oversight did they provide? Were they just picking up a check? (think I know the answer to that)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 07:53 PM (eRlcH)

A LOT of this, from what I have read, is like WWI-league sunk cost fallacy level thinking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 07:54 PM (Y/06r)

33 Over the next three years, Shultz helped to introduce almost all the outside directors on the "all-star board", which included William Perry (former U.S. Secretary of Defense), Henry Kissinger (former U.S. Secretary of State), Sam Nunn (former U.S. Senator), Bill Frist (former U.S. Senator, senate majority leader and heart-transplant surgeon), Gary Roughead (Admiral, USN, retired), Jim Mattis (General, USMC), Richard Kovacevich (former Wells Fargo Chairman and CEO) and Riley P. Bechtel (chairman of the board and former CEO at Bechtel Group)."

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Well, they're smarter than you and me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 07:55 PM (ndZc7)

34 "Russia's War: Blood Upon the Snow" (1995) Devastating nine-ep documentary series on Stalin's reign, fueled with amazing historical footage, lots of interviews, and material unearthed from the Soviet archives shortly after the fall of the USSR. Somebody very generously gifted the DVD set to me, and I'm trying to think of a way to get it to people who need to see it. 10 out of 10, must see!

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:56 PM (Jr5Lq)

35
Did the "all-star board" think, "Wow! She's got all this VC funding. Must be legit." Or did the VC guys think, "Wow! Look at the big brains on the board. Must be legit."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 07:57 PM (eRlcH)

36 I enjoyed the Spanish language limited series on Netflix The Final Problem. It's murder mystery set on a Mediterranean island among the beautiful jet set people in the early '60s. The premises is that a fading actor famous for appearing as Sherlock Holmes in a series of movies is lured to the island in pursuit of a role. Once there, a series of murders breaks out and faux Sherlock Holmes is expected to solve them. It's not woke, I like the setting, and it's a pretty good story.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 07:58 PM (ndZc7)

37 A coupla movies at my googleplex I want to catch: "Wicker" (aka Fifty Shades of Hay), "Wild Horse Nine" just for Malkovich, Rockwell, and Buscemi, and maybe "Wildwood".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 07:58 PM (kpS4V)

38 26 So, did you come away with it that, rather than being a con artist, Holmes was a true believer and that belief allowed her to convince other stupid people who thought they were really smart?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 07:50 PM (Y/06r)

I think this is the norm in Silicon Valley. They say "We're going to reinvent the X industry" and the X industry will say "No, you're not, because of A, B & C."

And a great many times, the X industry is right. And some other times, they're technically wrong, but "A, B or C" includes "We're going to throw roadblocks in your way you can't get around."

In this case, there's an implication that what they were trying to do is =possible= but not the way they were trying to do it. And they're still going, but from my limited understanding it's a much harder problem than they gave it respect for.

Now, I thought the same was true of Elon and his attempts to re-invent the auto industry. And he's eventually proven me wrong.

But I don't see any Elons here.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:58 PM (K40fF)

39 34 "Russia's War: Blood Upon the Snow" (1995) Devastating nine-ep documentary series on Stalin's reign, fueled with amazing historical footage, lots of interviews, and material unearthed from the Soviet archives shortly after the fall of the USSR. Somebody very generously gifted the DVD set to me, and I'm trying to think of a way to get it to people who need to see it. 10 out of 10, must see!
Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:56 PM (Jr5Lq)

There was another we watched during my Russia at War class... Red Empire? Presented by Robert Conquest. It was very good. I think I found it on ewetub several years ago... I'll look.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 07:58 PM (Y/06r)

40 28 I caught a netflix doc on SCTV that I enjoyed this week. Very heavy on interviews with the cast.

Is it "You Had To Be There"? I couldn't get to the theater in time to catch that.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:59 PM (K40fF)

41 'Gique, did you fall under the spell of her wide, unblinking blue eyes?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 07:59 PM (kpS4V)

42 I'm so confused.

So, Seyfried (who very clearly played Holmes in "The Dropout," I watched it [and thought it was good except for being rushed toward the end]) is at times re-enacting Holmes in this documentary, and at other times is playing herself, giving color commentary on Holmes and her family?

Huh?

Posted by: Dr. T at November 07, 2026 08:00 PM (lHPJf)

43 Saw last week on Tubi a French movie Come What May. 2015 about beginning of the war and a tiny village. Was really good I thought.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 08:00 PM (Ia/+0)

44 "I think this is the norm in Silicon Valley."

It's called 'fake it til you make it.'

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 08:01 PM (Jr5Lq)

45
Does Holmes still do the vocal fry stuff or was that an affectation?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 08:01 PM (eRlcH)

46 Not much movie watching this week. But did revisit A Flash of Green on Tubi. Ed Harris, Blair Brown, and Richard Jordan in a nicely done adaptation of John D. MacDonald's novel. Well worth a look.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026 08:01 PM (q3u5l)

47 Here is the Red Empire doc, in it's entirety:

https://youtu.be/Q05q71zJKNY

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:01 PM (Y/06r)

48 "Here is the Red Empire doc, in it's entirety:

https://youtu.be/Q05q71zJKNY"

Thanks so very much!

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 08:03 PM (Jr5Lq)

49 37 A coupla movies at my googleplex I want to catch: "Wicker" (aka Fifty Shades of Hay), "Wild Horse Nine" just for Malkovich, Rockwell, and Buscemi, and maybe "Wildwood".

The last two are on my list. I almost forgot about Wildwood, I'll have to catch that before it goes away. WH9 isn't out yet, I don't think. [checks] Oh, wait, yes it is.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:03 PM (K40fF)

50 While I'm doing my computer work, I've just been playing the
'Resident Evil' movies in the background. Milla was very attractive and the effects were really good.

I'm piecing the story together through multiple run throughs but it'll be nice to watch them if I ever sit and watch a movie again.

Oh, and they had reboots, animated movies. A lot of stuff.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 08:04 PM (Sco7b)

51 Huh?
Posted by: Dr. T at November 07, 2026 08:00 PM (lHPJf)

I say old chap, that Amanda Seyfried doesn't seem entirely stable. I recognize the signs, you see, from the women I have dated.

*takes puff from churchwarden pipe*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:04 PM (Y/06r)

52 42 I'm so confused.

No, you're not. You have it exactly right.

She played Holmes in "The Dropout". Fielder has her come in and do re-enactments of parts where there wasn't a camera. AND she's got opinions.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:04 PM (K40fF)

53 I've mentioned the series This Is Not a Murder Mystery, most recently when the Art Thread featured surrealist painter René Magritte who is a main character in this series. In fact, the series title is inspired by words written on one of his paintings, This Is Not a Pipe. The setting is a gathering of surrealists for a show in 1936 to introduce the world to surrealism and includes such guests as Salavador Dali, Max Ernst, Man Ray, Lee Miller et al. The plot (so far) resembles Agatha Christie's And Then There Were None except the murders are apparently inspired by the guests' surrealist art work. The series is over the top super woke to the extent that I am allowing myself to believe that this is satire. Anyway, if you're looking for something different, this different.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 08:06 PM (ndZc7)

54 I had never heard of Elizabeth Holmes, and only vaguely was sort of aware of Theranos, I guess it really annoyed rich people to find out the magical cure was just a scam but I say "a fool and his money" to that.

Been watching some older movies recently, and some recent stuff as well

I saw a movie called Prime Cut from the early 70s with Lee Marvin and Gene Hackman. It was a bizarre mix of spoof and serious crime drama that did not seem to know what tone it was going for. It was Sissy Spacechick's first movie, she spends a lot of it either nekkid or in transparent clothing with huge staring eyes, i can see how she got a career out of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:06 PM (TMNW7)

55 | Does Holmes still do the vocal fry stuff or was that an affectation?

I heard no fry.

| 'Gique, did you fall under the spell of her wide, unblinking blue eyes?

On the contrary. It's a huge detriment to whatever charm she does possess.

In fact, if anything, I do not understand how she made it anywhere with this affect. It absolutely undermines her credibility in any interaction (to me).

Except it's so stupid and so out there, I have trouble believing it's a bit. I really did think "PTSD".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:08 PM (K40fF)

56 Sissy Spacek always creeped me out. I don't know. It's the huge eyes, innocent face and straight part that just scream mortal, children of the corn terror.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:09 PM (Y/06r)

57 The only movie that kind of interests me right now coming out is "I Play Rocky" but not enough to go see it. I can catch it on streaming, some time. Godzooky is supposed to be good but I am not big on the giant monster genre.

I watched Nobody, which was supposed to be John Wick 2.0 but was just okay. Odenkirk does a decent job as Joe Everybody, but he never seems all that capable just determined. It was entertaining enough but I am glad I didn't lay out 14 bucks for it or whatever films are these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:09 PM (TMNW7)

58 Somali Daycare Owner Cited for Over a Dozen Violations Wins Minnesota House Seat

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Maybe it's not too late for Holmes to enter politics.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 08:09 PM (ndZc7)

59 No, you're not. You have it exactly right.

She played Holmes in "The Dropout". Fielder has her come in and do re-enactments of parts where there wasn't a camera. AND she's got opinions.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:04 PM (K40fF)


I see. And we're sure that Nathan Fielder is not, in fact, Werner Herzog?

Because that sounds vaguely like something Werner Herzog would do.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 07, 2026 08:10 PM (lHPJf)

60 In other news, that British actor with the car door ears is being posited as the next Bond, but a wild card suggestion has been Robert Pattinson. I thought he just wanted to do oddball character roles but I guess he might make an okay 007.

Ten years ago they should have cast Henry Cavill. Too late now. He would have been perfect.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 08:10 PM (kpS4V)

61 36 I enjoyed the Spanish language limited series on Netflix The Final Problem. It's murder mystery set on a Mediterranean island among the beautiful jet set people in the early '60s. The premises is that a fading actor famous for appearing as Sherlock Holmes in a series of movies is lured to the island in pursuit of a role. Once there, a series of murders breaks out and faux Sherlock Holmes is expected to solve them. It's not woke, I like the setting, and it's a pretty good story.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 07:58 PM (ndZc7)

I liked it, too, but you have to roll with some of the more unrealistic elements in the premise...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 07, 2026 08:10 PM (Gb7+b)

62 For me, I started Season 1 of Mistletoe Murders...b/c I needed more murder mystery, and I'm 4 episodes in and it's good fun. It will probably eventually get annoying, but it's not there yet...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 07, 2026 08:11 PM (Gb7+b)

63 I'll never watch it because nobody from the last two decades deserves a three-hour documentary.

Stop with movieflation. I am not spending more time than it would take to play 18 holes of golf to go to a theater to watch anything. Eat me.

Posted by: ballistic at November 07, 2026 08:11 PM (oqH4h)

64 54 I guess it really annoyed rich people to find out the magical cure was just a scam but I say "a fool and his money" to that.

Not even a cure, but a cheaper/less traumatic way to run lab tests.

From what I could tell, though, they were trying to put a lab in a box. I've worked in labs (never as a lab tech, tho') and I've seen what specimens go through: Centrifuges, agitation, chemical mixtures.

I don't get how anyone can say "Oh, yeah, we can do all that in a small box with a drop of blood."

What they're trying to do now--yes, they're still at it--is =change= the tests.

There's almost certainly a way to reach the goal, but it's not going to be as simple as "lab in a box".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:11 PM (K40fF)

65 Sissy Spacek always creeped me out

I never thought much of her as an actress, she was in the same category as Barbara Hershey, Sondra Locke, and Susan Sarandon to me: they keep getting work but I couldn't say why, other than their willingness to get their yobs out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:12 PM (TMNW7)

66 "they were trying to put a lab in a box."

It was a solution in search of a problem.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 08:13 PM (Jr5Lq)

67 Just watched a clip of Elizabeth Holmes speaking.

I go on my gut a lot. It is usually darn near perfect when it comes to people (massive bipolar people aside.)

Dear Lord. She makes my gut wrench.

She's a true believer. I have no desire to know what happened in her life to give her that affect. Fuck.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:13 PM (Y/06r)

68 I also saw Clayface, and if you don't get squeamish with cut up faces, it was a good movie showing a realistic descent into madness when Hollywood discards you b/c you aren't pretty anymore and the rest of the world shuns you b/c they are told to do so by those in power...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 07, 2026 08:13 PM (Gb7+b)

69 || Godzooky is supposed to be good but I am not big on the giant monster genre.

Just got back from it. It is good and I am also not big on the giant monster genre. It's very much like the previous entry: Heavy on emotion and melodrama, and very, very impactful but not overlong monster fights.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:14 PM (K40fF)

70 Stop with movieflation. I am not spending more time than it would take to play 18 holes of golf to go to a theater to watch anything

The best theory I heard as to why movies are so long now is streaming: they measure success by minutes watched, so the longer the program...

I saw "A Working Man" with Jason Statham playing Jason Statham. All his stuff is pretty entertaining even if its basically the same thing over and over (like Arnie's old stuff). It was better than "Nobody" to me, smarter and with a better story. The book by Chuck Dixon is better (great series of books) as usual.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:15 PM (TMNW7)

71 The best theory I heard as to why movies are so long now is streaming: they measure success by minutes watched, so the longer the program...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:15 PM (TMNW7)

I think it is also because the art of editing (in anything) has gone bye bye. No one wants to cut anything someone worked on even if it would help pacing and clarity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:16 PM (Y/06r)

72 40 28 I caught a netflix doc on SCTV that I enjoyed this week. Very heavy on interviews with the cast.

Is it "You Had To Be There"? I couldn't get to the theater in time to catch that.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:59 PM (K40fF)

actually no, It's called "SCTV The Greatest Show You've Never Heard Of". I found it under New on Netflix and it's dated 2026. About an hour and a half. I got a real kick out of Catherine O'Hara talking about the high school quiz bowl sketch and where the character's name and school came from. Her (the character during the game) answers are so subtle but so damn funny.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 07, 2026 08:16 PM (r7+Q7)

73 Re: James Bond casting:

Has anyone mentioned Clive Owens?

Is he also too old?

In which case, shouldn't resist "how old" because my vote is still Henry Cavill.

Posted by: Wenda at November 07, 2026 08:17 PM (qBjG1)

74 | Maybe it's not too late for Holmes to enter politics.

Aryans are out these days. Unless she's an Amerind like Warren.

| I see. And we're sure that Nathan Fielder is not, in fact, Werner Herzog?

It has a very Herzogian vibe.

| 63 I'll never watch it because nobody from the last two decades deserves a three-hour documentary.

I share the sentiment generally, but this did not feel long. Sometimes documentaries can be very compelling. Jenny Nicholson did a 5 hour review of the Star Wars Hotel which was riveting.

Also, uh, that guy who did Shoah. He did "The Last of the Unjust" and that "Four Sisters" movie and those dwarf these. (And of course "Shoah" is, like, eight hours.)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:17 PM (K40fF)

75 Wanted to catch Ramayama, but it’s only playing at nighttime hours, 8:30pm and on.

Guess I’ll have to liberate it when it hits streaming.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 08:17 PM (XV/Pl)

76 But I don't see any Elons here.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 07:58 PM (K40fF)


I think the difference is the difference between building a toll bridge and building a toll road. A half built road still connects a number of places with more to come, and a half built bridge is just a danger of falling off the end.

If Theranos could have just done two or three tests on a chip, say, A1C and Insulin levels for a couple of bucks to start, she would have financed the next step and made extra on the doc in the box equipment upgrades every two years.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 08:18 PM (rbvCR)

77 | It was a solution in search of a problem.

Now that is definitely not true.

If you had a machine that would do any lab test and it cost about a $1 to run? It would absolutely transform medicine, save lives, etc.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:19 PM (K40fF)

78 None of the two guys in contention to be the next Bond have any Bondiness to them.

They really need to get back to the tongue in cheek, Roger Moore era Bond.

Make it just short of slapstick and you’ll have a hit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 08:20 PM (XV/Pl)

79 I think Henry Carville would be a good Bond too

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 08:20 PM (Ia/+0)

80

Keep giving assholes who want to destroy our country your money.

Most of them are illerate and parrot what their pr people what them want to say.

Spend quality time with your family, get a hobby.




Posted by: four seasons at November 07, 2026 08:20 PM (/QHx4)

81 77 | It was a solution in search of a problem.

Now that is definitely not true.

If you had a machine that would do any lab test and it cost about a $1 to run? It would absolutely transform medicine, save lives, etc.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:19 PM (K40fF)

Even if not perfect or as advanced as a real lab, it would be the thing to send to the 3rd world as aid...if it worked at all...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 07, 2026 08:21 PM (Gb7+b)

82 78 None of the two guys in contention to be the next Bond have any Bondiness to them.

They really need to get back to the tongue in cheek, Roger Moore era Bond.

Make it just short of slapstick and you’ll have a hit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 08:20 PM (XV/Pl)

On one of the streams I watched today someone said 'Pierce Brosnan NOW ooozes more Bond than any of these guys.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:21 PM (Y/06r)

83 80

Keep giving assholes who want to destroy our country your money.

Most of them are illerate and parrot what their pr people what them want to say.

Spend quality time with your family, get a hobby.

Posted by: four seasons at November 07, 2026 08:20 PM (/QHx4)

What if your hobby is watching and critiquing movies?

Posted by: Nova Local at November 07, 2026 08:22 PM (Gb7+b)

84 68 I also saw Clayface, and if you don't get squeamish with cut up faces, it was a good movie showing a realistic descent into madness when Hollywood discards you b/c you aren't pretty anymore and the rest of the world shuns you b/c they are told to do so by those in power...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 07, 2026 08:13 PM (Gb7+b)

I follow a lot of my favorite actress from kid's shows on Instagram. Most are in their 20's now. Man, that's a brutal business. And constantly being in projects appealing to an audience that has TONS of choices.

One thing I've noticed is a LOT of them are now focusing on the 'stability' of a music career.

Again brutal.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 08:23 PM (Sco7b)

85
Most of them are illerate

_________

*snickers cruelly*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 08:23 PM (eRlcH)

86 | If Theranos could have just done two or three tests on a chip, say, A1C and Insulin levels for a couple of bucks to start, she would have financed the next step and made extra on the doc in the box equipment upgrades every two years.

They could do 12, though not all with the needed accuracy.

This is why the media angle is so critical, I think: This was all done in a way to scare up a ton of capital, so they amped up the claims, ran the Forbes' stories, got a lot of people on board--and they had patsies in play. Then when the company went under, a bunch of fights ensued over patents, which I cannot tell whether they're for legit things or just to harass people with.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone got very rich off of Theranos.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:23 PM (K40fF)

87 I think it is also because the art of editing (in anything) has gone bye bye

I think there is a lot of that involved as well. I think about the most recent D&D movie, which was about 2.5 times as long as it needed to be. Why? They had to have a long, complicated tragic back story for EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. And every single one of those stories had to be resolved, literally, before they could deal with the big bad guy

Cut most of those out but the absolute most critical one and you get a much more tight and entertaining movie. Save the other stories for later movies, if you catch on and can make them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:24 PM (TMNW7)

88 | Keep giving assholes who want to destroy our country your money.

I tried, but the IRS keeps threatening to arrest me!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:25 PM (K40fF)

89 On one of the streams I watched today someone said 'Pierce Brosnan NOW ooozes more Bond than any of these guys.'

I didn't buy Daniel Craig as Bond, but when Casino Royale came out... I guess I still didn't but because of the adherence to the Ian Fleming story, it worked anyway. Except the beginning sequence of him bulldozing through a site to kill a guy he was trying to capture. That was not Bond. Bond would have done it like Johnny English.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:26 PM (TMNW7)

90
Then when the company went under, a bunch of fights ensued over patents, which I cannot tell whether they're for legit things or just to harass people with.

___________

Who knows? Things don't have to work to be patentable.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 07, 2026 08:27 PM (eRlcH)

91 Goldeneye or From Russia with Love.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:27 PM (Y/06r)

92 73 Re: James Bond casting:

Has anyone mentioned Clive Owens?

Is he also too old?

In which case, shouldn't resist "how old" because my vote is still Henry Cavill.
Posted by: Wenda
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I saw an old movie of Clive's where he plays a convict allowed to do gardening on a special work release program, and I also thought "Clive would make a terrific Bond!"

I don't personally feel they're too old now, but the producers want to squeeze maybe five films out of an actor for the franchise, so they're thinking 30s or 40s.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 08:28 PM (kpS4V)

93 I follow a lot of my favorite actress from kid's shows on Instagram. Most are in their 20's now. Man, that's a brutal business. And constantly being in projects appealing to an audience that has TONS of choices.

Especially these days, when the jobs are drying up faster than a California reservoir. Even big name actors are fighting to get jobs. I think that's why the big push for voice acting, just to get some kind of work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:28 PM (TMNW7)

94 I've been seeing ads for Amazon's Rings of Power on Amazon Prime. They are encouraging people to "get caught up" on Seasons 1 and 2 before Season 3 drops in a week or so.

But the people making the show have been open about the fact it's a "soft reboot" from Seasons 1 and 2 because they know the first two seasons are just awful. They've been telling people they don't need to watch the first two seasons to understand Season 3.

Not that Season 3 promises to be any better, with its "love triangle" between Sauron, Galadriel, and Celeborn.

It's going to be a hilarious dumpster fire.

I may hate watch it out of morbid curiosity.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 07, 2026 08:29 PM (s2iZv)

95 Young Frankenstein on MeTV.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 07, 2026 08:29 PM (X8vlu)

96 89 On one of the streams I watched today someone said 'Pierce Brosnan NOW ooozes more Bond than any of these guys.'

I didn't buy Daniel Craig as Bond, but when Casino Royale came out... I guess I still didn't but because of the adherence to the Ian Fleming story, it worked anyway. Except the beginning sequence of him bulldozing through a site to kill a guy he was trying to capture. That was not Bond. Bond would have done it like Johnny English.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:26 PM (TMNW7)

I think he was in that 'Black Adam' movie. I swear I saw his name.

Now, I"m not a comic book geek BUT I loved superhero cartoons and saw a lot of them. They're trying to get a super-hero franchise off the ground, and they go with BLACK ADAM??

The same with a lot of these superhero or villain movies. I never saw it, but I at least know who Clayface and Kraven the Hunter were. And Madame Web.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 08:29 PM (Sco7b)

97 I know this is supposed to be about films, but I remember when dad got his first one-touch and no longer had to piss on strips to get an estimate of his blood sugar. Once upon a time a blood glucose machine was something only found in an ER to sort out the drunks from the diabetics in delirium from high blood sugar, and it was considered a miracle to speed up what used to be a blood test. Now we have continuous glucose monitoring. This is damned near sorcery next to what we did in the 1940's.
Lab on a chip is a serious goal, there are enough people working on it who are convinced it will happen.

So I watched Pirates of teh Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and it had plot holes. Amusing, but there were a lot of plot holes and poor character development.
I liked the Tim Powers book better.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 08:29 PM (rbvCR)

98 Goldeneye or From Russia with Love.

Two of my top five Bond movies. FRWL is the best of them, the most like the books and the most spy thriller. It still retains the fantastic, but in a plausible way (as opposed to Moonraker, for example). For Your Eyes Only did it well, too.

Someone suggested having Pierce or Timothy Dalton come back to play Q instead of that fay long hair pouf that replaced the classic Q. It would be a fun twist "when I was out in the field, I would have loved to have had this..."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:31 PM (TMNW7)

99 This movie addresses one of my special interests, British Bomber Command over the Reich. I'll probably enjoy it.

https://tinyurl.com/4myc86fn

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 08:31 PM (ndZc7)

100 None of the two guys in contention to be the next Bond have any Bondiness to them.

They really need to get back to the tongue in cheek, Roger Moore era Bond.

Make it just short of slapstick and you’ll have a hit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


No. Everything must be darker and grittier and more tragic and, at its brightest, morally gray. Bond as Anti-Hero is the formula.

Posted by: Hollywood for the past 20 years at November 07, 2026 08:32 PM (VHUov)

101 So I watched Pirates of teh Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and it had plot holes. Amusing, but there were a lot of plot holes and poor character development.
I liked the Tim Powers book better.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 08:29 PM (rbvCR)
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I'm not surprised the book is better. Seems like Disney just needed to steal an IP and wrap it in a skinsuit of "Pirates of the Caribbean" to sell tickets.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 07, 2026 08:32 PM (s2iZv)

102 Maybe they can do an "Expendables"-style riff with all the old Bond actors. I would watch that!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 08:34 PM (kpS4V)

103 They're trying to get a super-hero franchise off the ground, and they go with BLACK ADAM??

I kinda liked that movie but yeah, that's not something you try to build a franchise with but then neither is Peacemaker, Supergirl, Creature Commandos and Gorilla Grodd with Jimmy Olson.

I figure there's LSD in the water cooler at Warner Brothers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:34 PM (TMNW7)

104 Here's how you do new Bond - Do the whole movie without showing Bond. Just follow the Bond Villain, say Tom Holland in a tux. He's up to eeevuhl, selling faulty cleft chin implants to the NHS and killing puppies. Lots of pearls are clutched, M and Q are wondering where is Bond? Will the puppies die? That's when the Supervillain's girlfriend, played by Zendaya, shoots him twice behind the ear and reveals herself as 007.

Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at November 07, 2026 08:35 PM (r7+Q7)

105 So I watched Pirates of teh Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and it had plot holes. Amusing, but there were a lot of plot holes and poor character development.

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A Pirates Comeback Isn’t Enough: Johnny Depp Wants More Than Just Another Sequel

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I have no idea what this means.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 08:35 PM (ndZc7)

106 What if your hobby is watching and critiquing movies?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 07, 2026 08:22 PM (Gb7+b)
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The guy's got a point.

Conservatives spending time and money to critique movies as a hobby is a bit like a black guy going out of his way to attend a Klan rally to comment on the quality of the cross-burning, as a hobby.

Posted by: ballistic at November 07, 2026 08:36 PM (oqH4h)

107 I'm not surprised the book is better. Seems like Disney just needed to steal an IP and wrap it in a skinsuit of "Pirates of the Caribbean" to sell tickets.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 07, 2026 08:32 PM (s2iZv)


Tim Powers says that he got the idea from the Pirates of the Caribbean ride in the first place. He also wrote the story just because Lester Del Rey kept rejecting his books.
Disney got burned on stealing IP for the first three movies, so apparently they paid Tim Powers for the option. The story of Jack Shandy, Puppeteer extraordinary would have been difficult to shoe-horn in with Jack Sparrow

Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 08:36 PM (rbvCR)

108 No. Everything must be darker and grittier and more tragic and, at its brightest, morally gray. Bond as Anti-Hero is the formula.

With Villeneuve as the director I expect that. I don't want Roger Moore goofy crap but I don't want misery and slow, plodding Le Carre Bond, either.

Maybe they can do an "Expendables"-style riff with all the old Bond actors

There's two billion dollars in that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:37 PM (TMNW7)

109 Maybe they can do an "Expendables"-style riff with all the old Bond actors

There's two billion dollars in that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:37 PM (TMNW7)

Connery: Dead
Lazenby: Dead?
Moore: Dead
Dalton: Alive
Brosnan: Alive

I WOULD pay damn good money to have seen those five in a movie together.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:39 PM (Y/06r)

110 That woman in the top, first picture has a completely remanufactured face. It is repulsive or frightening, take your pick.
Howdy Doodie looks more human.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 08:39 PM (C0oZI)

111 Back in the day I thought Gerard Butler would have made a fine James Bond.

Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 08:39 PM (lJ0H4)

112 With Villeneuve as the director I expect that. I don't want Roger Moore goofy crap but I don't want misery and slow, plodding Le Carre Bond, either.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:37 PM (TMNW7)


I for one am excited at the prospect of Zendaya as a Bond-Girl.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 08:40 PM (rbvCR)

113 Lazenby is still alive but he's 87 with Dementia Daniel Craig is still alive as well of course.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:40 PM (TMNW7)

114 Connery: Dead
Lazenby: Dead?
Moore: Dead
Dalton: Alive
Brosnan: Alive

I WOULD pay damn good money to have seen those five in a movie together.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:39 PM (Y/06r)
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We can fix it in post!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 08:41 PM (kpS4V)

115
My understanding is that the fundamental problem with Theranos technology was getting a representative sample in a tiny amount of blood. The lab-on-a-chip technology already existed, and the problem with getting a representative sample of blood at a tiny scale was a well-known issue that nobody had solved.

The other issues, i.e. misrepresentation to investors, the faked results, attracting prominent men who should have known better to the corporate board, were downstream of that.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 07, 2026 08:41 PM (azNOR)

116 After looking at episode synopses, I decided not to bother with Amazon's new Carrie series. My brother said he looked at a couple of episodes and bailed out on it. No idea what everyone was thinking when they greenlit that one.

Mike Flanagan's a bit erratic. Thought there was some nice stuff in his Haunting of Hill House and Haunting of Bly Manor. Midnight Mass was a misfire IMHO. Oculus was interesting (worth a watch just for Karen Gillan). He did a nice job blending Stephen King's work with Kubrick's version of The Shining for Doctor Sleep. Liked Life of Chuck. I thought Gerald's Game was unfilmable when I read it umpteen years ago, but seemed to me Flanagan did a pretty good job on it.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026 08:42 PM (q3u5l)

117 getting a representative sample

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2020 did a show last night on JonBenet that came close to promising us an answer in the next five or six months based on new DNA procecures.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 08:45 PM (ndZc7)

118 Back in the day I thought Gerard Butler would have made a fine James Bond.

Yeah his career puzzles me. After 300 the guy could pretty well write his own ticket but he made some forgettable action things and romantic movies and disappeared. He could have been a good Bond, I think.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:45 PM (TMNW7)

119 Connery: Dead
Lazenby: Dead?
Moore: Dead
Dalton: Alive
Brosnan: Alive

I WOULD pay damn good money to have seen those five in a movie together.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 07, 2026 08:39 PM (Y/06r)


Lazenby's still kicking it at 87...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 07, 2026 08:46 PM (iIyc0)

120 No idea what everyone was thinking when they greenlit that one.

Turning Carrie into a cute girl with friends in control of her telekinesis was a choice, its true.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:46 PM (TMNW7)

121 Oops, missed Chris's posting.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 07, 2026 08:46 PM (iIyc0)

122 Siena Agudong is in the new 'Carrie' series. She was also in a REALLY bad Tubi horror movie a month or so ago.

She was someone I thought would work consistently. But it probably helps not to be in crap.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 08:47 PM (Sco7b)

123 The "TCM Remembers" video is going to be sad this year. I know I say that every year, but we're losing some big names.

Patrick Stewart, Dolly Parton, Robert Duvall, Catherine O'Hara, Tim Curry, Sam Neill, Eva Marie Saint, Chuck Norris, etc.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 08:48 PM (kpS4V)

124 The other issues, i.e. misrepresentation to investors, the faked results, attracting prominent men who should have known better to the corporate board, were downstream of that.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 07, 2026 08:41 PM (azNOR)


Lying to investors is what put her in jail. Defrauding people like Kissinger's investment team was just the cherry on top.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 08:49 PM (rbvCR)

125 Well in 10 years if we make it that far, well be able to tell AI to make us a spy movie with all the bond actors working together to solve a case.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:49 PM (TMNW7)

126 I saw Lazenby live at a showing of OHMSS in 2018. I will never recover.

https://tinyurl.com/3eh82fsv

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:49 PM (K40fF)

127 I would like to see this because everyone says it's fascinating. I guess Im confused about Fiedler. I only know that he has some funny videos where he punks people or deadpans through bizarre situations. Sort of like Sascha Baron Cohen without the theatrics. How/why did he come to be involved with this project?

Posted by: Lex at November 07, 2026 08:50 PM (y4H1r)

128 Lazenby looks like the Squire of Gothos in that frilly shirt.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 08:51 PM (kpS4V)

129 The other issues, i.e. misrepresentation to investors, the faked results, attracting prominent men who should have known better to the corporate board, were downstream of that.
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This whole thing does not pass the smell test. There's no excuse for falling for any of it, and I'm unconvinced that the reason people attract official ire for things isn't just because, like Martha Stewart (or Randy Weaver for that matter), an official or someone with connections to an official gets a bug up his butt.

Any of this is easily testable. Somebody got embarrassed.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:53 PM (K40fF)

130 128 Lazenby looks like the Squire of Gothos in that frilly shirt.

Yup. 1968, baby!

| How/why did he come to be involved with this project?

The reason we're given is that "He thinks outside the box."

I think it was a good call. I am completely unfamiliar with his work, however.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:54 PM (K40fF)

131 Supposedly George Lazenby wanted to play James Bond so he went down to Albert Broccoli's office, charmed/BS'ed his way in to see him and convinced Albert to give him a shot. I thought he did a pretty good job. Then he decided Bond was old fashioned and lame and dullsville man, and left the job to be part of the Swinging London scene.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:58 PM (TMNW7)

132 I'd go with From Russia with Love as the best Bond flick. Don't know that I'd care to try ranking the rest, but if I had to I'd give a fairly high spot in the list to Never Say Never Again. Connery was, of course, getting pretty long in the tooth for the part but they had fun playing with that fact in the movie and it worked nicely.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026 08:58 PM (q3u5l)

133 64- There's almost certainly a way to reach the goal, but it's not going to be as simple as "lab in a box".
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 08:11 PM

I followed this story very closely at the time.While my memory has faded on some of the more minute details, I clearly recall that Elizabeth Holmes was no victim. She was friends with Chelsea Clinton at Stanford, which gave her entree to the illuminati who ended up on the board of directors. She received an insane amount of glowing press but very little investigation into whether the technology actually worked. Any time questions were raised, the "stellar" board of directors was used as a shield. George Shultz's grandson,Tyler, was the first whistleblower and they tried to destroy his life. Shultz turned his back on his grandson. The lab-in-a-box didn't have flaws, it simply didn't work. This was not an effort to steal patents or technology. It was a scam. Just my opinion but I believe that Elizabeth Holmes is a sociopathic hustler.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 07, 2026 08:59 PM (Lzhdy)

134 | Yeah his career puzzles me. After 300 the guy could pretty well write his own ticket but he made some forgettable action things and romantic movies and disappeared.

"300" may have been unforgivable. Especially considering he followed it with "Machine Gun Preacher," which I think is terribly under-rated.

https://moviegique.com/reviews/machine-gun-preacher/

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 09:00 PM (K40fF)

135 "Moonraker" was too silly to be a good Bond film.

They're all over the top, but should operate within the gutter bumpers of cinematic Cold War spy ballin'.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 09:02 PM (kpS4V)

136 Short video of Polish cop putting the hurt on the Krakow shooter despite being wounded himself and collapsing a few seconds later. Go to 0:55.

https://tinyurl.com/2t9y8hrh

And now for a bit of a mindf*ck regarding the shooter.

https://tinyurl.com/bdfjzcda

I don't understand anything anymore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 09:03 PM (ndZc7)

137 "Mike Flanagan's a bit erratic. Thought there was some nice stuff in his Haunting of Hill House and Haunting of Bly Manor. "

I thought his "Fall of the House of Usher" series on Netflix was very good.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 07, 2026 09:08 PM (FZzOq)

138 I've heard Flanagan's House of Usher is pretty good, but by the time it came out I'd cancelled my Netflix. Will catch that one eventually but who knows when.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026 09:10 PM (q3u5l)

139 | She was friends with Chelsea Clinton at Stanford, which gave her entree to the illuminati who ended up on the board of directors.

Well, that explains a lot, doesn't it? People lose their money, get defrauded, etc., all the time. But the whole machine powered up to put Holmes on this track, and it had to chew her up to make an example out of her.

(I'm not challenging your view of her as a sociopath, though. It's not the impression I got but I just watched a sorta documentary.)

Back when we were all nearly 13, I posted an essay here on Cargo Cults which, upon reflection, seems almost charmingly naive.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 09:10 PM (K40fF)

140 The other issues, i.e. misrepresentation to investors, the faked results, attracting prominent men who should have known better to the corporate board, were downstream of that.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 07, 2026 08:41 PM (azNOR)


being in with the highest levels of politics by being friends with their spawn would probably give one a poor understanding of how actual finance and research actually works, as opposed to the self-dealing that the highest levels of politics and captured finance actually operates on now.
She may well have been too thick to understand that both a) yes this is how the world works, and b) it is only an option for them who is already made and not for her.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 09:10 PM (rbvCR)

141 If he were still around and writing, can you imagine the fun John D. MacDonald would have had writing novels using contemporary financial/political fraud and scamming as backgrounds?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026 09:13 PM (q3u5l)

142 139- Well, that explains a lot, doesn't it? People lose their money, get defrauded, etc., all the time. But the whole machine powered up to put Holmes on this track, and it had to chew her up to make an example out of her.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 09:10 PM

I can't agree that it was a matter of the machine making an example of her. The fraud resulted in a massive valuation of the company at about $9 billion. That's simply too big to ignore.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 07, 2026 09:18 PM (Lzhdy)

143 My take on Theranos - it was a scam from day 1. Their board is a who's who of scam artist politicians.

They thought they could keep the money con going for much longer, or maybe they really thought they could discover SOMETHING to pretend that progress was being made.

When it blew up, the politicians on the board decided Holmes was the one that was going to take the fall, and they all magically walked away scot-free with their own looted millions.

Not that Holmes is innocent, but she was very clearly set up as the public scapegoat to take the fall when every one sitting on the board should have gone to jail with her.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 07, 2026 09:18 PM (setIA)

144 https://tinyurl.com/bdfjzcda

"The Krakow shooter wore the chevron of the American PMC Forward Observations Group on his uniform, whose mercenaries are fighting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine."

The report said he had all sorts of bits and pieces of military gear in his car, so this may have only been some "surplus" that he picked up. Too early to tell.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 07, 2026 09:19 PM (FZzOq)

145
omg I can't believe I didn't get to this thread until 6:20. I was a complete junkie of this case and I'm loaded with opinions about the movie.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 09:20 PM (XJ22o)

146
"Proof of Life" (2000) Somebody please make a fan cut with all the Meg Ryan scenes edited out.
youtube.com/watch?v=PmL0UcBQFCI

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The love story in that movie was utterly cold.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 09:21 PM (XJ22o)

147 Thanks for the review. You made the film sound interesting. However, I have no desire to see a movie about this lying fraud. As far as the actress, I'd probably be more interested in seeing a movie about Mother Ann Lee, even it was a musical. (How odd!) who seems like a person with much more integrity than the founder of Theranos.

I saw "Jimmy" ( about Jimmy Stewart) and will go to see " I play Rocky" . I need uplifting films right now, as I rarely go see modern films.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 09:23 PM (JrHfD)

148 Jimmy looks like it could be good, especially as the media is complaining that its so unrealistic that anyone could be that heroic in real life

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 09:26 PM (TMNW7)

149
being in with the highest levels of politics by being friends with their spawn would probably give one a poor understanding of how actual finance and research actually works, as opposed to the self-dealing that the highest levels of politics and captured finance actually operates on now.
She may well have been too thick to understand that both a) yes this is how the world works, and b) it is only an option for them who is already made and not for her.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 09:10 PM

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Like, what good did the Clintons do in Haiti? That was government/NGO money. Maybe it wouldn't have been such a problem for Holmes if it hadn't been private investors, and she didn't make specific powerful men look like buffoons.And if she'd paid off the right people.

But there's a way to do biomedical fraud and stay out of jail. There are lapsed fallen credentialed scientists who solicit investments that they know will never be repaid. They run in circles being all scientific looking, the company folds, and they pocket their money and open a new company down the road.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 07, 2026 09:27 PM (azNOR)

150
Did the "all-star board" think, "Wow! She's got all this VC funding. Must be legit." Or did the VC guys think, "Wow! Look at the big brains on the board. Must be legit."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

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In fact, some major medtech and other VCs turned her down -- and the DC-based brain trust never seemed to notice. Also, according to Phyllis Gardner, everyone in town knew the technology was bogus.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 09:27 PM (XJ22o)

151 147- I saw "Jimmy" ( about Jimmy Stewart) and will go to see " I play Rocky" . I need uplifting films right now, as I rarely go see modern films.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 09:23 PM

I've seen mixed reviews on "Jimmy". What did you think of it?

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 07, 2026 09:28 PM (Lzhdy)

152 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 09:26 PM (TMNW7)

Yep; I read some of the reviews
After I saw the film . i think the media just intensely dislike anyone's who is patriotic and basically a decent guy. They loathed the movie about Ronald Reagan too, which I quite enjoyed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 09:30 PM (JrHfD)

153 Posted by: Moonbeam at November 07, 2026 09:28 PM (Lzhdy)

Spouse and I both liked it. We went to the early showing which didn't have many people, but based on their comments they enjoyed it as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 09:32 PM (JrHfD)

154 143- Not that Holmes is innocent, but she was very clearly set up as the public scapegoat to take the fall when every one sitting on the board should have gone to jail with her.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at November 07, 2026 09:18 PM

I do agree with you.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 07, 2026 09:33 PM (Lzhdy)

155 Haven't watched the most recent episode of MST3K, but the second most recent episode featured a movie called "Deathsport." This movie spent its money on three things; First, explosions. There are lots of explosions in the movie. Second, dirt bikes (with silly sci-fi guns glued onto the front) and some stunt-men to ride them. Third, a young David Carrodine. A script that made sense wasn't even in the conversation. Seriously, the movie is one of those Italian post-apocalyptic Mad-Max-wannabe movies. It felt like they were aping the structure of an American action movie without understanding what was actually going on...

Still, reasonably funny as an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000.

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 07, 2026 09:36 PM (jHYFI)

156 It needs Paper Chase guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2026 09:38 PM (Cqx++)

157
My take on Theranos - it was a scam from day 1. Their board is a who's who of scam artist politicians.

They thought they could keep the money con going for much longer, or maybe they really thought they could discover SOMETHING to pretend that progress was being made.

Posted by: DudeAbiding

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I dunno. Phyllis Gardner said the old guys' brains were in their crotches, plain and simple.

This was also Tyler Schultz's opinion. He saw the whole thing from start to finish, wrestled with his grandfather mightily, and ultimately wrote a scathing, unsparing letter to ol' George accusing him of juvenile, fantastical, motives and massive delusions.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 09:42 PM (XJ22o)

158 If it doesn't have Megaweapon it's just a poser of a picture.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 09:44 PM (MWfyi)

159 80
I didn't buy Daniel Craig as Bond, but when Casino Royale came out... I guess I still didn't but because of the adherence to the Ian Fleming story, it worked anyway. Except the beginning sequence of him bulldozing through a site to kill a guy he was trying to capture. That was not Bond. Bond would have done it like Johnny English.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 08:26 PM (TMNW7)

I think I'm part of the minority. I lost any interest in Casino Royale soon after the pre-credit action scene ended. I barely remember anything of the actual movie, other than that I didn't like it. Never bothered checking out the other Craig-Bond movies...

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 07, 2026 09:46 PM (jHYFI)

160 157- This was also Tyler Schultz's opinion. He saw the whole thing from start to finish, wrestled with his grandfather mightily, and ultimately wrote a scathing, unsparing letter to ol' George accusing him of juvenile, fantastical, motives and massive delusions.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 09:42 PM

Yes. George Schultz's treatment of his grandson was deplorable.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 07, 2026 09:46 PM (Lzhdy)

161 She scammed a bunch of stupid rich fucks. It’s rather amusing.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 09:49 PM (qWvvZ)

162 Re: the discussion of the Bond films . . . I bought Craig as Bond from the opening sequence of Casino Royale -- the flashback to how he earned his 00 number, showing him beating the first target to death in brightly lit restroom, and then coldly plugging the traitor in his office.

Traitor: "They say [killing] gets . . ."

Bond's Gun:Blap!

Bond: "Yes. Considerably."

And Skyfall is the best of the Craig Bonds -- a grand adventure that would have been grand even without someone named "Jams Bond" -- and as good in its way as From Russia was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 09:49 PM (56Qyq)

163 "Deathsport" was a semi-sequel to the hit Corman flick "Death Race 2000", which was supposed to be a trilogy.

"Deathsport" ended any thoughts of making a third movie.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 09:50 PM (K40fF)

164 | everyone in town knew the technology was bogus.

It's nonsense on its face. The =idea= is fine. =Aspects= of it may be doable and useful to do. But--unless she is the queen of manipulative sociopaths and much, much brighter than she comes off--Holmes had not even the casual-est notion of how such a thing =should= work.

But I'd still trust her before Seyfried.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 09:52 PM (K40fF)

165 As for the other Bond actors:

Connery is No. 1
Dalton is No. 2

Moore, Brosnan, and Lazenby are distant thirds.

The rumors that Rod Taylor and Richard Johnson were considered? RJ would have made a pretty good Bond. Rod, much as I love his work, not really.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 09:54 PM (56Qyq)

166 96
I think [Pierce Brosnan) was in that 'Black Adam' movie. I swear I saw his name.

Now, I"m not a comic book geek BUT I loved superhero cartoons and saw a lot of them. They're trying to get a super-hero franchise off the ground, and they go with BLACK ADAM??

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 08:29 PM (Sco7b)

In the Shang-Chi comics, Chi ends up working for MI-6, which is led by an old-man Neyland Smith (from the Fu-Manchu pulp-novels of the 30's). One of Chi's fellow agents was a guy named Retson, who made allusions to being the nephew of James Bond. Now, the Shang-Chi movie had nothing to do with the comics, and they don't have the rights to Fu-Manchu characters anyways...But in my head, I mapped out an alternate Shang-Chi movie where an aged-up Retson would replace old-man-Smith as the leader of MI-6, and he would be played by....Pierce Brosnan. In my head, it sounded brilliant.

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 07, 2026 09:55 PM (jHYFI)

167 Believe Patrick McGoohan was an early choice for Bond but he turned it down.

Damn shame -- he'd have been terrific. Can't see him doing all the quips, though; he'd have played it more serious.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026 09:57 PM (q3u5l)

168 And outta here for the evening.

Moviegique, thanks for the thread.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 07, 2026 09:58 PM (q3u5l)

169 When were the earlier Fu Manchu novels set? Pre WWI, or slightly after? I can't recall. In either case, Nayland Smith could have been a contemporary of Richard Hannay of The 39 Steps fame.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:00 PM (56Qyq)

170 Adjusted for inflation the Bonds that made the most box office are Connery, Moore and Craig.

My rankings for Bond are Moore, Connery, Dalton, Brosnan.

I don't rank Craig or Lazenby, because they're just not James Bond.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 10:01 PM (XV/Pl)

171 Nood ONT

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 10:02 PM (56Qyq)

172 Thanks, JSG!

And thanks everyone for coming by!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at November 07, 2026 10:03 PM (K40fF)

173 In the Shang-Chi comics, Chi ends up working for MI-6, which is led by an old-man Neyland Smith (from the Fu-Manchu pulp-novels of the 30's)

Shang Chi in the comics was Bruce Lee as James Bond, it was such a great concept and sold like crazy. So Disney decided to make it about nothing whatsoever like that with a complete jackass in the lead and the most annoying woman in Hollywood as a sidekick.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 07, 2026 10:06 PM (TMNW7)

174 Pierce Brosnan was the corrupt Irish politician in the Jackie Chan movie The Foreigner.

Oddly, Timothy Dalton was in Hot Fuzz, as the corrupt market owner and mastermind.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 07, 2026 10:19 PM (rbvCR)

175 >They had to have a long, complicated tragic back story for EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER. And every single one of those stories had to be resolved, literally, before they could deal with the big bad guy

To be fair, that's every D&D campaign now. It's just one of many gamer in-jokes in the film.

The problem is that D&D is nowhere near as popular as D&Ders or Hasbro think it is, it's just Very Online. There were never going to be enough people who would get the jokes to float a franchise.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at November 08, 2026 02:35 AM (LgYtf)

176 This is one of the most thought-provoking analyses of the Theranos scandal. It was written five years ago, but it gets into what the usual suspects may have been trying to accomplish with their fake, magical widget. They had to have known it didn't work.

https://tinyurl.com/2fzehbf5

Posted by: Spartan at November 08, 2026 03:04 PM (fGAhH)

Hobby Thread - November 7, 2026 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is feeling round and decided on a marble theme for this Hobby Thread.

Marbles? Read on, fellow hobbyists...

[Top photo: Moon Marble Company]

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Your host is a dinosaur with a small brain and short arms. That means it is difficult to get low to the ground and reach to shoot marbles. But I understand that others are into marbles. Some still shoot marbles or play other games. It seems like many others are enamored of collecting marbles because of the visual interest and variations inherent in the glass making process.

Marbles are also useful for other crafting and hobbying pursuits.

Other than losing them, what hobbying experience do you have with marbles?

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Give the content a chance before you judge and bail out. There's gotta be something that resonates with you. More importantly, what are you hobbying? Jump in with your hobbying, interests, stories and questions.

Anything (legal) you are hobbying is welcome. If not, offer something else relating to hobbying or just check in and say hello.

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring churches). Pants? Nope. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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Are you wise in the ways of marble history?

The earliest marbles were made of flint and stone and baked clay. Examples have been found in archaeological sites around the world and some of these, from Rome and ancient Egypt, can be found at the British Museum.

There are frequent references to marbles in Roman literature and it is probably fair to assume that the Romans took this popular form of entertainment with them to all parts of their empire.

For centuries thereafter the marbles were made of common stone or in some cases, real marble. China and crockery marbles were introduced around the year 1800 and before that glass marbles had been made in Venice. However, it was only when a German glassblower invented a tool called the marble scissors in 1846 that production became quick enough to make the sale of glass marbles to the public an economic proposition.

These marbles became increasingly popular throughout Europe and America. An enormous variety of colours were used and intricate patterns were created within the glass.

Clay marbles began to be produced in bulk from about 1870 onwards on both sides of the Atlantic. In the 1890's the first machines for the manufacture of glass marbles were introduced. However, machine production remained low until the 1914-18 war in Europe cut off supplies of marbles to North America. This stimulated the machine production of glass marbles in the U.S.A. This production technique and the machines themselves are now found in many countries, east and west.

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Does anyone still shoot marbles? Do kids still learn?

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How it's made: marbles

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Some people are serious marble collectors based on the colors and patterns:

The world's largest Marble King (one specific marble maker) collection:

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Marble music:

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Anyone make cracked glass for crafting? Want to learn how?

How to Make Cracked Glass Marbles for Crafting

Cracked glass marbles can go by several different names. I've seen them called fractured glass, fried marbles, or shattered marbles.

So these marbles are pretty and all, but what can you do with them?

The answer is pretty much anything you can do with regular marbles! Which means there are plenty of options.

You can turn them into jewelry, embellish an art project, add them to an outdoor decor project, or use them as a vase filler. The list goes on and on.

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Marbles come in different sizes:

PeeWees - approx. 12mm or 1/2" and smaller
Decor Marbles - approx. 14mm or 9/16"
Target Marbles - approx. 16mm or 5/8" (most standard size)
Shooters - approx. 18 - 19mm or just under 3/4"
Cobbles - approx. 22mm or 7/8"
Boulders - approx. 25mm or 1"
Jumbos - approx. 35mm or 1 3/8"
Super Jumbos - approx. 41mm or 1 5/8"
Toebreakers - approx. 48mm or 2"

How much do marbles cost? Like anything else, fancier gets more expensive. They are sold in bulk quantities. I fancy found target marbles for sale on line sold by the pound. There are approximately 80 to 90 in a 1 pound bag ($13) and approx. 250 in a 3 pound bag ($32.50).

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A 50 pack of bumblebee jumbos costs $52.

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Anyone play marble games called Ringer, Plums, and Dropsies in scouts?

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Marble jargon is fun. Here are some marble words that came up during the research for this content - can anyone vouch for these? Any others come to mind?

Types of Marbles:
Aggie - Marble made of agate (or glass imitating agate)
Alley - Originally from alabaster or real marble. Sometimes alley taw for a high-quality shooter.
Bennington - Glazed clay or stoneware marble (named after pottery style, though not made in Bennington, VT).
Cat's eye - Clear glass marble with a colored, eye or vane-shaped insert inside.
Clearie / Peerie / Purie / Crystal - Transparent clear glass marble.
Commonie - Cheap, plain clay or common marble.
Onionskin - Glass marble with layered, swirling color bands that run the length of it.
Steelie - Steel ball-bearing marble (heavy and effective as a shooter).
Sulphide - Clear or semi-opaque glass marble with a small clay or porcelain figure (animal, person, etc.) inside.
Bumblebee - Yellow-and-black striped marble.
Joseph's Coat Specific pattern with many straight color bands.

Size-Related Names:
Peewee / Pewee / Mini - Small marble
Mib / Target / Tolley / Duck / Kimmie - Standard target/player marble
Shooter / Taw / Dobber - Larger marble used to knock others out
Boulder / Giant / Bumboozer / Bowler / Tom Bowler - Very large marble
Other size nicknames include bonker, masher, popper, thumper, and godfather.

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Making a marble track:

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did a crystals and gem cutting theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comments from last week:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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Boo! Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Or just email to say hello. Do mighty things.

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1 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:32 PM (Ia/+0)

2 I lost all mine.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 05:32 PM (1Ff7Z)

3 A very sad story to tell
I should be at this very moment in Lancaster playing a War of Ozz game but am at home, wasn't feeling well and had to bail out at its start.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)

4 I remember marbles from childhood. I never knew how to play them, but I'd roll them around and knock them together--they made a great sound. Sounds like I'm a cat but I'm not.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 07, 2026 05:34 PM (CHHv1)

5 My main hobby this week was drinking.

I did make a nice rotating spiral galaxy, though. Still frame:

https://tinyurl.com/yr5su32d

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 07, 2026 05:35 PM (CHHv1)

6 https://tinyurl.com/2bxfupsx
A short video of some of the game boards at Fall in HMGS convention.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:37 PM (Ia/+0)

7 Didn't shoot marbles, but played Chinese Checkers with them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 05:37 PM (1Ff7Z)

8 They play with marbles in trans world.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2026 05:42 PM (Cqx++)

9 "Bing Bang Boing"

Obscure, I know. But is or was, "a thing."

This is an open ended action game.

The object of the game is to be the first player to raise the "Ideal" flag. Players do this by arranging the various mechanisms, drums, and obstacles and then try to run a ball bearing through their course.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 05:42 PM (RORbl)

10 A short video of some of the game boards at Fall in HMGS convention.
Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:37 PM (Ia/+0)

Eh, Tuesday said otherwise, Skip.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 05:43 PM (1Ff7Z)

11 Marble Machine guy: when you're an engineer, but you wind up in a rock band instead of working for Volvo.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 05:43 PM (VHUov)

12 I did make a nice rotating spiral galaxy, though. Still frame:

https://tinyurl.com/yr5su32d
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 07, 2026 05:35 PM (CHHv1)

What did you use to create? Are you going for the realistic look?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 05:45 PM (1Ff7Z)

13 I remember seeing other kids play marbles, and the terms "aggie" and "cat's eye" are familiar to me. Not much else.

This week I've been tempted to buy a new vintage pipe, but haven't settled on one yet. However, I did buy a new watch, the first since 2020! It's a Laco "Flieger," the Luftwaffe-style pilot watch. Laco, it seems, was one of the five companies that supplied the Luftwaffe with pilot watches. Mine is 39 mm, the type B dial with two concentric rings, no date, and is handwound -- it has to be wound every day, like the German pilots needed to do. Completely unlike any of my other watches.

According to the USPS it's out for delivery today -- but I haven't seen the mail truck yet. Still might make it here before the evening is out, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 05:45 PM (56Qyq)

14 Marbles was a big thing when I was a kid. I grew up in a black neighborhood so I don't know if the game holesies was common beyond my neighborhood.

You would dig three holes with your heel about two feet apart. Object was to shoot your marble into the holes forward and back. First to do it wins. You lose your turn when you miss. Your opponent can try to hole the marble or strike your marble .

Here is the part that's probably unique to the neighborhood. Loser has to put their knuckles on the ground by the first hole and the winner gets to throw a marble at them standing by the third hole.

Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026 05:45 PM (OXhw3)

15 My Lord of the Rings Online odyssey continues...

I've fought my way from Dol Amroth in western Gondor to the banks of the River Anduin in Eastern Gondor. All that stands between me and the Pelennor Fields is an Orc-infested city of Harlond. From Pelennor, I can get to Minas Tirith.

I'll say this for LOTRO...They make you WORK to get anywhere important from the books. You really feel like you've achieved something when you cross that hill and see the mead hall of Edoras in Rohan, or the immense fortress of Minas Tirith...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 07, 2026 05:46 PM (s2iZv)

16 Try again from beginning, some Fall in games Saturday
https://tinyurl.com/3eryjws4

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:47 PM (Ia/+0)

17 Didn't shoot marbles, but played Chinese Checkers with them.
Posted by: OrangeEnt


Similar. Had some marbles as a kid (lost now, obviously), but never played the actual game.

Mostly, they decorated the aquarium so the guppies had something to look at.

Or we built marble tracks for them out of other toys. Lego tracks were harder than they looked, since you could only make right-angle turns.....

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 05:47 PM (VHUov)

18 Willowed: Sadly we had one of our murderfluffs pass this morning, little Shiloh girly was small and frail, we finally had her eating solid food at 6 weeks, this morning was exactly nine. the other 5 are active and healthy.

I am heartbroken, I thought we had nursed her along far enough
Posted by: what the cat drug in at November 07, 2026


***
My condolences to you, WtCDI.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 05:48 PM (56Qyq)

19 Intellectually speaking, the primary use of marbles is aptly demonstrated within "Animal House." It is, of course, to screw up the local marching band when generously rolled within their projected path.

Posted by: Orson at November 07, 2026 05:48 PM (dIske)

20 Never played marbles as such as a kid, but with marbles as game pieces, my grandfather made a Chinese Checker board and used marbles

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:48 PM (Ia/+0)

21 IIRC I stopped playing marbles when the local marble guy was pointed out by my dad as for cheating.

I must have been about 11.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 05:49 PM (NnhvP)

22 https://tinyurl.com/yr5su32d
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 07, 2026 05:35 PM (CHHv1)

Very cool

Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026 05:49 PM (OXhw3)

23 Similar. Had some marbles as a kid (lost now, obviously), but never played the actual game.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 05:47 PM (VHUov)

Yeah, a leather bag with a drawstring. Never used for the game. Just other stuff. Not that I'm saying they were used as projectiles. No. I'm not saying that.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 05:50 PM (1Ff7Z)

24 My last painting I did was from a photo ace posted on a cafe thread awhile back. See nic.

Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026 05:51 PM (OXhw3)

25 The Moon Marble Company (top photo) is in Bonner Springs, a little suburb west of Kansas City.

If travelling through the area with children (or adults with maturity equal to that of PI), it is a good, entertaining break.

You can also buy some unique marbles for kid Christmas presents, etc. I guarantee that is a gift that they will not already have in their toy box.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 07, 2026 05:52 PM (HlyYF)

26 Had a good Friday at Fall In, lost two historical games on the loosing sides, Prussian 1806, British at Saratoga 1777, but today played for 1st time a WW1 battleship battle on the German side and we won quite convincing .

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:52 PM (Ia/+0)

27 I'm saying they were used as projectiles.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Corrected for brevity.

Yeah, Marbles fit the wrist rocket really well.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 05:53 PM (NnhvP)

28 last painting I did was from a photo ace posted on a cafe thread awhile back. See nic.
Posted by: polynikes

Nice work!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 05:54 PM (NnhvP)

29 I would guess the equivalent for girls is playing jacks. Does that still happen?

Posted by: Wenda at November 07, 2026 05:54 PM (qBjG1)

30 Beckoning Chasm kind of makes me think of the Restaurant at the end of the universe

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:55 PM (Ia/+0)

31 My former house was a marble farm. It was on a corner, in an older neighborhood, and near schools.

Almost every time I dug around to plant something, would find a marble. After removing the sod out front, there were marbles galore exposed after it rained.

I'd imagine many children played on that very yard, with many marbles won and lost there over the decades.

Posted by: JQ at November 07, 2026 05:55 PM (rdVOm)

32 I used marbles for my wrist rocket.

Looks like lashing wire is used for the tracks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 07, 2026 05:57 PM (X8vlu)

33 My last painting I did was from a photo ace posted on a cafe thread awhile back. See nic.
Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026


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Beautifully done; it makes me want to drive out West again and see some unobstructed sky for a change.

Your "Algiers Point" is remarkably realistic, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 05:57 PM (56Qyq)

34 Good evening Horde. Happy hobbying!

Posted by: TRex - glassy dino at November 07, 2026 05:57 PM (XfIK1)

35 I would guess the equivalent for girls is playing jacks. Does that still happen?
Posted by: Wenda at November 07, 2026


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If there's an app on their phones

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 05:59 PM (56Qyq)

36 > I used marbles for my wrist rocket.
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Interestingly... those are making a bit of a comeback. As "less lethal" type weapons.

Probably depending on the ammo.

Currently used to pop Flock surveillance cameras.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 06:01 PM (RORbl)

37 My marble collection was stored in rectangular, clear glass canisters. Had hundreds of marbles, old and new.. a couple of clay ones... Asshoe what broke into Dad's house stole them all.

Posted by: JQ at November 07, 2026 06:02 PM (rdVOm)

38 I gotta get to my mother's house to find that wrist rocket. Lott fun with that.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 07, 2026 06:03 PM (X8vlu)

39 Similar. Had some marbles as a kid (lost now, obviously), but never played the actual game.
Posted by: mikeski
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Yeah, a leather bag with a drawstring. Never used for the game. Just other stuff. Not that I'm saying they were used as projectiles. No. I'm not saying that.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Yep. Dad showed me a replica he made for shooting marbles. Iron water/gas pipe, drilled a hole to feed a 1940s sized fire cracker through the threaded end cap. Stuff some old rag in, marbles next, firecracker, then screw on the end cap.

Point and light. Pray a little too.

*for experimenting only*
I extended that design to pvc and potatoes. Used aquanet hair spray for the propellant and fired it with a fireworks punk shoved into the combustion chamber. Modern upgrade would use a butane torch complete with ignition source built in to the handle.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 07, 2026 06:03 PM (QVmho)

40 My 'hobby' has been replacing the radiator in the 2006 Miata automatic transmission, bought on Thursday, radiator blew on friday. Waiting for the all aluminum replacement after noticing I ordered the one for a Manual transmission, added over a week.
Had a difficult time 'burping' the air out of the system, it is a rather fiddly procedure.
All done yesterday. Driven slowly locally yesterday. No leaks. Will take it out on the freeway tomorrow.
Hurray!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 06:03 PM (NnhvP)

41 For some reason we never played 'official' marble games when growing up. However, we had a lot of marbles, some as gifts, some, a surprising number, we found from past generations that had been lost in our yards. We all played Chinese checkers and making the board was a common project in shop class along with cribbage boards.

Not a game as such, but us boys would gouge tracks in the dirt on an incline so the marbles would move. The idea was to make the track layout as complicated as we could without the marbles getting stuck. Any excuse for seven year old boys to play in the dirt. Packed snow could also be used.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 06:05 PM (yTvNw)

42 The WWII Battleship game I played in the game master made all the game parts needed with a printer.
Game board to track damage, range finder and moving measure device.
Also at another game just looking around a 28mm Napoleonic cavalry figure printed that was amazing as and metal figure in details.

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 06:05 PM (Ia/+0)

43 I gotta get to my mother's house to find that wrist rocket. Lott fun with that.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Replace old surgical tubing!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 06:07 PM (NnhvP)

44 Mom made each of her kids one cloth drawstring bag and monogrammed them our initials on her fabulous Singer Slant-O-Matic sewing machine. She put marbles in them as a sort of starter set. We played, a lot. Neighbor kids, too. My sister won a steelie shooter, and it was the envy of the neighborhood. I still have mine somewhere. The bag is a lovely robin's egg blue, and the marbles are mostly cat-eyes. I guess they all count as antiques these days, as do I.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 06:08 PM (5WPt1)

45 Any excuse for seven year old boys to play in the dirt. Packed snow could also be used.
Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 06:05 PM (yTvNw)

Funny how the best stuff to play with when we were kids didn't cost a dime, but usually involved a bath later.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 06:09 PM (5WPt1)

46 Replace old surgical tubing!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Yep. Probably snap on the first draw.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 07, 2026 06:10 PM (X8vlu)

47 Wolfus:
Seriously? Playing jacks on a phone?

Posted by: Wenda at November 07, 2026 06:10 PM (qBjG1)

48 28mm Napoleonic cavalry figure printed that was amazing as and metal figure in details.
Posted by: Skip

A friend uses a resin print for fighting figures for increased detail.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 06:10 PM (NnhvP)

49 nice work, polynikes!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 07, 2026 06:10 PM (VyBeY)

50 OT, but it appears DH's dad is probably dying this week. He pretty much smoked and drank his heart to death, besides being an obdurate asshole and being emotionally abusive to his long suffering wife. Still, it is going to be difficult for DH's mom, so a prayer or two would not go astray. Also, appears DH will have to fly back to WI, just two weeks out from knee replacement, so that will be a mess.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 06:10 PM (5WPt1)

51 Mrs. JTB smiled when she saw the topic. The subfloor of her childhood bedroom, put in by her dad, had plenty of knot holes. Before the actual floor was installed, she would try to shoot the marbles down the holes. If anyone ever takes up the floor, they will have a good collection of marbles. Childhood memories.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 06:11 PM (yTvNw)

52
Yep. Probably snap on the first draw.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

You could poke out your eye!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 06:11 PM (NnhvP)

53 appears DH will have to fly back to WI, just two weeks out from knee replacement, so that will be a mess.
Posted by: tcn in AK

DH and family in my prayers.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 06:13 PM (NnhvP)

54 24 ... "My last painting I did was from a photo ace posted on a cafe thread awhile back."

polynikes,
Nice painting. You have a wonderful talent for painting light.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 06:13 PM (yTvNw)

55 Some day I will open up a box and find all of the marbles that the kids played with when they were little. I remember making some cracked marble jewelry for my Mom back when I was in elementary school.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 07, 2026 06:14 PM (ibDUx)

56 Wolfus:
Seriously? Playing jacks on a phone?
Posted by: Wenda


Well, "jacks" seemed old fashioned, so they changed it up a bit. The game's called "fruit ninja."

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 06:14 PM (VHUov)

57 In reality I lost all my marbles years ago.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 06:15 PM (NnhvP)

58 Played a LOT of marbles as a kid. Aggies, cat's eye, peeries(?), steelies... I had a bespoke leather bag for my stash.

I've told before how my dad had a friend who worked at a ball bearing factory and he gave me a ball bearing as big as a silver dollar (or at least that's how I remember it). I dominated the playground marbles scene.

Dad and I also made those plastic/lucite balls where you pour the liquid stuff into glass balls with a stem, they heat up and then harden, and then you crack the glass and sand down the nub at the stem. I made the Tsar Bomba of "marbles".

Did anyone else make those? What was that stuff? Don't breathe too deeply! I sure huffed a lot of chemicals as a kid.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 06:16 PM (kpS4V)

59 The video on how marbles are made was fascinating. Good thing I was a English major. If the world depended on my technical imagination and skills, we would still be living in caves.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 06:16 PM (yTvNw)

60 still have the wrist rocket I bought in, maybe, 1977 ... now on 5th or 6th set of surgical tubing.

illegal in Chicago, so I bought it mailorder from L. L. Bean when they were an obscure sporting-goods place in Maine

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 07, 2026 06:17 PM (VyBeY)

61 Sorry about all that drama, tcn. Prayers for hubby.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 06:17 PM (kpS4V)

62 Regarding cars: The suburban library hosted a "Cars and Coffee" event this morning in their parking lot. Free! Including the coffee. People had a lot of muscle cars and their modern equivalents, like a Maserati sedan and beefed-up Mustangs and some BMWs. To me the stars were the old Chevys. There were two Corvette Sting Rays in red over black, one a '63 split-window (the first year) and the other a '66. One fellow had a '63 Chevy Impala SS coupe, tomato red, and a white '66 SS like my father drove in the late '60s. I commented about the '63, "Must be the last *non-low rider* left in America!" He laughed.

There was even a vintage Ford F-100 pickup, with a nicely appointed bed, and everything else looking pretty original. From the days when you bought a pickup to, yanno, *pick up and haul* things instead of to impress your neighbors. It had a cozy cabin too (probably damned hot in summer, unless he's put in A/C) with a plain bench seat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 06:20 PM (56Qyq)

63 Pipe smoking hobby. I ordered several pounds of my favorite pipe tobacco today while it was on sale. A bit extravagant but it is a Danish company and with all the problems in Europe these days I imagine there could be disruptions. The blends are Stokkebye's Navy Flake, Cube Cut, and Black Cavendish. Should be enough for quite some time.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 06:22 PM (yTvNw)

64 Wolfus:
Seriously? Playing jacks on a phone?
Posted by: Wenda at November 07, 2026


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I just meant the kids would probably be so attached to their phones they wouldn't have any interest in a real life game. No idea if that's true, but the college students I used to see at my former work had their eyeballs glued to those little screens all the time and never spoke to each other.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 06:23 PM (56Qyq)

65 *hic*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 06:24 PM (vBZcw)

66 There was even a vintage Ford F-100 pickup, with a nicely appointed bed, and everything else looking pretty original. From the days when you bought a pickup to, yanno, *pick up and haul* things instead of to impress your neighbors. It had a cozy cabin too (probably damned hot in summer, unless he's put in A/C) with a plain bench seat.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 06:20 PM (56Qyq)

I look for them once in a while, but every one I find online is either rusty or they want 30k for them.

Watched a vid earlier from a Model A guy who drove a Model A pick up to haul some wood. Nice looking thing. I wonder what the market for those are?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 07, 2026 06:24 PM (1Ff7Z)

67 Intellectually speaking, the primary use of marbles is aptly demonstrated within "Animal House."

Using the bulk prices shown above, 10,000 marbles would be about $1300, or about $118 in 1962 adjusted for inflation.


Posted by: Oddbob at November 07, 2026 06:25 PM (vTZFs)

68 Pipe smoking hobby. I ordered several pounds of my favorite pipe tobacco today while it was on sale. A bit extravagant but it is a Danish company and with all the problems in Europe these days I imagine there could be disruptions. The blends are Stokkebye's Navy Flake, Cube Cut, and Black Cavendish. Should be enough for quite some time.
Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026


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Erik Stokkebye, or Peter? I have some Erik S. Morning Blend, which smells darn near edible and smokes quite well once it's dried a bit. And I think I tried the Cube Cut. Couldn't get it lit by itself, but mixed in with another blend, it worked fine.

I've been finding Gawith & Hoggarth's Bob's Chocolate Flake to be a good cool smoke, and actually I get some cocoa/whisky aroma out of it now. But finding the actual product is a challenge. Everybody seems to be out of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 06:26 PM (56Qyq)

69 50 OT, but it appears DH's dad is probably dying this week. He pretty much smoked and drank his heart to death, besides being an obdurate asshole and being emotionally abusive to his long suffering wife.

---------

A poetic epitaph if I ever read one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 06:26 PM (vBZcw)

70 My son picked up some Australian black licorice on sale at Ollies.

OMG. I just could not stop eating them.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 07, 2026 06:27 PM (LOvBA)

71 I saw the Obdurate Assholes open for Big Head Todd and the Monsters at the Santa Monica Civic in '84.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 07, 2026 06:28 PM (vBZcw)

72 Literally no one ever "played marbles" in my neighborhood.

I think we had a board game involving a marble track of some kind.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 06:29 PM (RIvkX)

73 I just meant the kids would probably be so attached to their phones they wouldn't have any interest in a real life game. No idea if that's true, but the college students I used to see at my former work had their eyeballs glued to those little screens all the time and never spoke to each other.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Rather true for most adults under 40 or so.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 06:29 PM (XeU6L)

74 Stalag 17 is on Movies! at 7 pm Central. I doubt we'll be back from dinner (Mexican tonight) in time to watch it. Svengoolie has Young Frankenstein at 6, and two original Twilight Zones right afterward.

Getting dark here. I doubt the mail truck will show up this evening (though I have known it to arrive as late as seven pm). Guess I'll have to wait for my watch until Monday.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 06:31 PM (56Qyq)

75 I didn't make any HF contacts this week, but right now I'm monitoring the smart meters in my neighborhood on 915MHz, using free software rtl_433 and an RTL_SDR dongle rcvr. Everything has a radio in it these days.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 06:31 PM (Jr5Lq)

76 Still painting away, although not a lot recently as we've had to play host to a relative for 3 weeks and counting. Finished up another portrait and made a start on painting the recent solar eclipse. As I have no good photos of my own (we went to Iceland and got rained out), I'm using several from the internet which were taken in Spain as my inspiration. Have only managed to get in about 8 hours' worth of work on it due to having to spend a lot of time cooking meals and entertaining the company.

Posted by: tankascribe at November 07, 2026 06:33 PM (EhQXY)

77 I taught our boys to play marbles but they got bored after a few games. To tell the truth so did I.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:36 PM (MWfyi)

78 Played marbles quite a bit in the second and third grades. Usually in the school/church parking lot in all seasons. Winters in Michigan could be extreme, so the players (kids) cleared off the ice and snow enough to make a go of it.

Made up rules for when the marbles hit puddles or snow.

Lots of fun.

Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 06:37 PM (rj6Yv)

79 I taught our boys to play marbles but they got bored after a few games. To tell the truth so did I.
Posted by: fd
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Try Mumblety-peg.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 06:39 PM (XeU6L)

80 When I was a kid we did play marbles at school. For keeps. There might have been some crying involved.

Steelys not allowed. At first.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:39 PM (MWfyi)

81 Made up rules for when the marbles hit puddles or snow.
Posted by: mrp


Calvinmarble!

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 06:40 PM (VHUov)

82 Pipe smoking hobby. I ordered several pounds of my favorite pipe tobacco today while it was on sale. A bit extravagant but it is a Danish company and with all the problems in Europe these days I imagine there could be disruptions. The blends are Stokkebye's Navy Flake, Cube Cut, and Black Cavendish. Should be enough for quite some time.
Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 06:22 PM (yTvNw)
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I still have a fair amount of Stokkebye's "Proper English" and "English Oriental Supreme" laid by. Good stuff!

Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 06:41 PM (rj6Yv)

83 Perhaps somebody on this thread can help America locate it's marbles.

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 06:41 PM (LHPAg)

84 There is (or at least, there was) a use for marbles when breeding certain tropical fish. I had several tropical fish tanks when I was a youngster. I raised up some fish called Zebra Danios which tend to eat their own eggs. Put a couple of layers of marbles in the bottom of the tank that's going to be the nursery and the eggs fall between the marbles. The adult fish can't get to them. Remove the adults when they've finished their fishy version of makin' whoopie and wait for the young-uns to hatch. Put a few floating plants in there so the young can feel more at home.

Posted by: George V at November 07, 2026 06:41 PM (g6ahB)

85 "Try Mumblety-peg.
Posted by: Mike Hammer"

I did not teach them that because I didn't want their mom make them go to the emergency room.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:41 PM (MWfyi)

86 I taught our boys to play marbles but they got bored after a few games. To tell the truth so did I.
Posted by: fd
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Try Mumblety-peg.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 06:39 PM (XeU6L)
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Try teaching them the fine art of playing Draw Poker.

Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 06:42 PM (rj6Yv)

87 "I've told before how my dad had a friend who worked at a ball bearing factory and he gave me a ball bearing as big as a silver dollar (or at least that's how I remember it). I dominated the playground marbles scene"

Oh, you were that kid who caused the escalation.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:43 PM (MWfyi)

88 Jeepers. Buckeyes are getting their asses handed to them by the ducks.

I hate Oregon.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 07, 2026 06:44 PM (4ThdF)

89 I have an antique quack novelty 'razor blade sharpener,' containing two uranium glass marbles. Supposedly drawing the blade between the 'radium balls' would rejuvenate the blade. Dubious at best.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 06:44 PM (Jr5Lq)

90 Jacks was a girls game but we might have played cause we was bored. Also that stupid "Dating Game" board game.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:46 PM (MWfyi)

91 I saw Lane Kiffin open for Obdurate Assholes at the Swamp August of ‘03.

Posted by: Accomack at November 07, 2026 06:46 PM (9H7EW)

92 I was kinda hoping to smoke a few bowls this weekend, but the recovery time for the actinic keratoses procedure put the kibosh on that idea.

Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 06:48 PM (rj6Yv)

93 the 'radium balls'
Posted by: gp


A side effect I don't even notice.

Posted by: Bruce Banner at November 07, 2026 06:48 PM (VHUov)

94 Try teaching them the fine art of playing Draw Poker.
Posted by: mrp
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Ha! My dad did that. I learned two life lessons, as he scraped up the matchsticks that we played for.

"Never telegraph your punches, and, play your cards close to your vest"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 06:49 PM (XeU6L)

95 "Supposedly drawing the blade between the 'radium balls' would rejuvenate the blade"

Sounds kind of gay if you ask me. I know you didn't but that's never stopped me before.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:50 PM (MWfyi)

96 I taught our boys to play poker too. They got bored with that. I have this cool vintage bakelite poker chip carousel full of poker chips but nobody will play poker with me.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:53 PM (MWfyi)

97 Jeepers. Buckeyes are getting their asses handed to them by the ducks.

I hate Oregon.
Posted by: nurse ratched

OSU lost their mojo when they lost Julian Sayin. Tough season without him.

Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 06:53 PM (lJ0H4)

98 Those happy Brit marblers in 2017 playing for keeps but not looking ahead.

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 06:53 PM (LHPAg)

99 Likewise, chess. Nobody wants to play. They want to play something with giant fighting robots and explosions.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:54 PM (MWfyi)

100 Played with marbles as a kid. My brother and I would form opposing lines of them and take turns rolling one to get a hit on the other side. It passed the time...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 07, 2026 06:55 PM (08OqX)

101 99 Likewise, chess. Nobody wants to play. They want to play something with giant fighting robots and explosions.
Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:54 PM
You rang?
-AI

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 06:55 PM (LHPAg)

102 One of my favorite short stories is The Oracle Engine by M.T. Anderson, a steampunk set in Andient Rome concerning an inventor who achieves revenge by building an oracle engine that works by running a marble through a series of programmed chute to achieve an answer.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 07, 2026 06:58 PM (ndZc7)

103 There is no joy in beating AI at chess.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 06:59 PM (MWfyi)

104 I don't play chess anymore, but I do about a dozen tactical puzzles a day at this excellent site:

https://lichess.org/training

Worldwide, chess is still as popular as ever. Two very good YT channels I watch are agadmator, and Ben Finegold's lectures.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:00 PM (Jr5Lq)

105 "One of my favorite short stories is The Oracle Engine by M.T. Anderson, a steampunk set in Andient Rome concerning an inventor who achieves revenge by building an oracle engine that works by running a marble through a series of programmed chute to achieve an answer.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent "

I wonder if you could run Doom on it.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:01 PM (MWfyi)

106 Chess was 'cooked' by regular computer engines years before the advent of today's AI tech. People don't play against the engines; they use them to analyze their person-to-person games, and assess the accuracy with which they were played. The engines have been a boon to the game, not a detriment.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:03 PM (Jr5Lq)

107 Try teaching them the fine art of playing Draw Poker.
Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 06:42 PM (rj6Yv)
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My eight-year-old pretty much knows basic blackjack strategy at this point lol.

Posted by: ballistic at November 07, 2026 07:03 PM (oqH4h)

108 OSU lost their mojo when they lost Julian Sayin. Tough season without him.
Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 06:53 PM (lJ0H4)
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nurse means the University of Oregon

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 07:04 PM (RIvkX)

109 I don't really want to play against a computer. It becomes all about winning. If I am going to lose a game I'd at least like to be able to have a conversation with my opponent.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:05 PM (MWfyi)

110 OSU lost their mojo when they lost Julian Sayin. Tough season without him.
Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 06:53 PM (lJ0H4)
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nurse means the University of Oregon
Posted by: San Franpsycho

And I was referring to Ohio State.

Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 07:06 PM (lJ0H4)

111 I swallowed a marble at 3 and almost died. True story!

Glad I could contribute. 😂

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 07:06 PM (ZdaMQ)

112 I don't really want to play against a computer. It becomes all about winning. If I am going to lose a game I'd at least like to be able to have a conversation with my opponent.
Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:05 PM (MWfyi)
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You can play mind games with a human opponent, forcing them to make mistakes.

You can't do that against a computer.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 07, 2026 07:07 PM (s2iZv)

113 "You can play mind games with a human opponent, forcing them to make mistakes.

You can't do that against a computer.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel"

Not to mention getting them drunk.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:09 PM (MWfyi)

114 People mostly play chess against other human opponents, online, but there are plenty of IRL tournaments, clubs and hustler games.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:10 PM (Jr5Lq)

115 What about bridge? If I could have majored in bridge in college I'd probably graduated summa cum laude.

Posted by: Wenda at November 07, 2026 07:11 PM (qBjG1)

116 I swallowed a marble at 3 and almost died. True story!

Glad I could contribute. 😂
Posted by: Piper


I guess you get the award for the most-complicated marble track.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 07:11 PM (VHUov)

117 116 I swallowed a marble at 3 and almost died. True story!

Glad I could contribute. 😂
Posted by: Piper

I guess you get the award for the most-complicated marble track.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 07:11 PM
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Ha! Well played.

Posted by: TRex - doctor dino at November 07, 2026 07:13 PM (XfIK1)

118 Try teaching them the fine art of playing Draw Poker.
Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 06:42 PM (rj6Yv)

Ever play Liar's Poker? You and your friends each bring a stack of dollar bills and use the serial numbers to bid on each round, going from 0 to 9. Repeating numbers are highly prized, so let's say your friend just bid a three, the guy to his left bid two threes. Your dollar bill has three threes in it's serial number, so you bid five threes. They challenge, and everyone reveals their dollar. If their bills plus yours have at least five twos in the serial number, you win both of their dollars.

A variation of this game is called Bullshit, where you drop that word whenever you want to challenge a player's claim. It really does improve the gameplay, but use discretion if you decide to play with the grandkids..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 07, 2026 07:14 PM (08OqX)

119 68 ... Wolfus,
It's Eric Stokkebye. He's the 4th generation owner. Peter might be his son. I tried the Morning Blend once and liked it. Cube Cut (I've been preferring burley blends lately) can be a challenge to light but not too bad. The cut doesn't tamp down easily and I gravity feed the bowl and keep the puffing slow. Finding Gawith blends seems to be a crap shoot. I see a lot of out of stock notices for it, especially the Chocolate Flake.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 07:19 PM (yTvNw)

120 "For no word from God will ever fail." — Luke 1:37

I thank God for my interest in harmonica. While not particularly good at it, I’m getting ready for the holidays by sharpening my Christmas tune capabilities. It usually brings a smile to people’s faces, and I get inspiration from playing.

Posted by: Unkaren at November 07, 2026 07:20 PM (TgU4U)

121 I don't really want to play against a computer. It becomes all about winning. If I am going to lose a game I'd at least like to be able to have a conversation with my opponent.
Posted by: fd
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I do not play games, but work crossword puzzels, Wordle. I used to do Sudoku, but wrote a software solver and as a consequence, lost interest. Publius also wrote a solver.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 07:20 PM (XeU6L)

122 The clock on the wall says the time for this week's Hobby Thread is ticking down. Don't fret - there will be another Hobby Thread next week with a different theme.

Thanks for being here. You're welcome to hang here for a while but don't forget to stop by Club ONT later. The Root Beer is already chilled.

Posted by: TRex - hourglass dino at November 07, 2026 07:21 PM (XfIK1)

123 *puzzles

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 07:21 PM (XeU6L)

124 And I was referring to Ohio State.
Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 07:06 PM (lJ0H4)
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Ahh. I thought it was The Ohio State?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 07:21 PM (RIvkX)

125 In The Bronx, when we were kids, we didn't play with marbles, we would fill bottle caps with crayon wax and shoot skelsies on a board drawn in chalk on the sidewalk in front of the tenement buildings.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 07:22 PM (XV/Pl)

126 One of the most popular chess engines is stockfish. It's free, and can play at ratings above 3000. It's been around for decades, is not AI, and the executable is about 50MB. People generally don't play against it, but instead use it for analyzing positions and human games.

Engines have also generated so-called 'bases' of cooked complex end-game positions, so that it is easy to feed such positions in, and find out instantly if they are wins or draws with just a database lookup.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

127 Just got a high wind alert on my Phone.

Power supposed to fail at some point this evening.

And I just put beef ribs in the oven.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 07, 2026 07:22 PM (yEz+x)

128 Young Frankenstein is on Svengoolie. This should be fun.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:23 PM (MWfyi)

129 Ahh. I thought it was The Ohio State?
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Has anyone ever seen an actual buckeye?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 07:25 PM (XeU6L)

130 Your host is a dinosaur with a small brain and short arms. That means it is difficult to get low to the ground and reach to shoot marbles.
.......

Is that what the kids are calling it now?

Posted by: wth at November 07, 2026 07:26 PM (oq9dX)

131 Young Frankenstein is on Svengoolie. This should be fun.
Posted by: fd
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What knockers!

Someone had to say it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 07:26 PM (XeU6L)

132 In The Bronx, when we were kids, we didn't play with marbles, we would fill bottle caps with crayon wax and shoot skelsies on a board drawn in chalk on the sidewalk in front of the tenement buildings.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 07:22 PM (XV/Pl)

Same. Newark, NJ circa 1970..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 07, 2026 07:26 PM (08OqX)

133 Tommy Carr is the schnizz.
Without Sayin, Michigan has a chance.

Posted by: Accomack at November 07, 2026 07:27 PM (FqNtp)

134 I still have all my marbles.

Posted by: Archer at November 07, 2026 07:27 PM (jG9m7)

135 Using good quality writing instruments is a sort of hobby. I mentioned on a previous thread trying some high end pencils: Blackwing and Mitsubishi. They are definitely superior pencils that are a pleasure to write with. I prefer, so far, the Blackwing 602 despite the cost.Writing with it is feels very similar to using a fountain pen, it's that smooth. My handwriting with it looks like my penmanship with a good Pelikan fountain pen. I find myself wanting to write just to use it.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 07:28 PM (yTvNw)

136 glad you're still with us, piper!

when I was 3 I understood how to operate the deadbolt and doorknob, so one day when I was bored I toddled off to Lincoln Park ... crossed 2 major streets to get there ... my distraught parents found me sitting on the grass playing with a stick.

(fwiw this would have been the late 50s, Chicago was not nearly as dangerous a place ...)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 07, 2026 07:28 PM (VyBeY)

137 Why is nurse watching a ducks game?
/wonders to self

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 07, 2026 07:28 PM (RIvkX)

138 Where wolf? There wolf.

Posted by: Archer at November 07, 2026 07:28 PM (aWPl9)

139 I swallowed a marble at 3 and almost died. True story!
.......

My cousin stuck a peanut up his nose and had to go to the ER to get it removed.

Posted by: wth at November 07, 2026 07:29 PM (oq9dX)

140 TRex,
Thanks for the thread. Marbles turned out to be a surprising cool topic.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 07:30 PM (yTvNw)

141 "Where wolf? There wolf.
Posted by: Archer"

I just learned from Svengoolie that Brooks did the wolf howl before those lines!

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:31 PM (MWfyi)

142 I still have all my marbles.
Posted by: Archer
......

Got any steelies?

Posted by: wth at November 07, 2026 07:32 PM (oq9dX)

143 I swallowed a marble at 3 and almost died. True story!
.......

My cousin stuck a peanut up his nose and had to go to the ER to get it removed.
Posted by: wth
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"Never put anything smaller than your elbow in your ear"

Posted by: Mike Hammer's mother intones at November 07, 2026 07:32 PM (XeU6L)

144 Roll, roll, roll in the hay!

Posted by: Teri at November 07, 2026 07:32 PM (Q+gd/)

145 If you listen to it, it does sound like Brooks. Now I can't unhear it.

Posted by: fd at November 07, 2026 07:32 PM (MWfyi)

146 Nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 07, 2026 07:33 PM (NcvvS)

147 126 One of the most popular chess engines is stockfish. It's free, and can play at ratings above 3000. It's been around for decades, is not AI, and the executable is about 50MB. People generally don't play against it, but instead use it for analyzing positions and human games.

Engines have also generated so-called 'bases' of cooked complex end-game positions, so that it is easy to feed such positions in, and find out instantly if they are wins or draws with just a database lookup.
Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 07:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

I wonder how many people use AI in online poker games. I imagine the companies try to prevent it but no system is safe from fraud and manipulations.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 07:33 PM (Sco7b)

148 Mitsubishi does make a really fine pencil.

Kita-boshi is another good brand from Japan.

never tried Blackwing, but their word-of-mouth is huge ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 07, 2026 07:34 PM (VyBeY)

149 but no system is safe from fraud and manipulations.
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A timely comment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 07:34 PM (XeU6L)

150 149 but no system is safe from fraud and manipulations.
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A timely comment.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 07:34 PM (XeU6L)

I thought people here would get that.

Speaking of which, I"m back on my big AI project. Got very frustrated and took up booze for a hobby. Better now.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 07:36 PM (Sco7b)

151 Ahh. I thought it was The Ohio State?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Only to the current generation. When I went to school we were simply Ohio State or The Big Farm.

Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 07:37 PM (lJ0H4)

152 Don't make people click to find out what you're linking.
_-_
Oh, you're no fun anymore!
I used to run into guys who did this at gem and mineral shows in my youth - not as many of those as there used to be

Here is a video of making an agate marble:
https://tinyurl.com/92da2f82
...and larger spheres:
https://tinyurl.com/yc6n675

Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 07, 2026 07:43 PM (3UxRL)

153 Ahh. I thought it was The Ohio State?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Only to the current generation. When I went to school we were simply Ohio State or The Big Farm.
Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 07:37 PM (lJ0H4)
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In my day, it was Ohio State and Cow Town.

Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 08:03 PM (rj6Yv)

154 My home was built in1920. Like JQ, every time I dig a hole in my yard, I find marbles. I just assume quite a few kids were having fun way back when. Also have found old matchbox cars, army men, etc. I collect them in a jar. Just because.

Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at November 07, 2026 08:54 PM (OpLc2)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, November 7

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Courtesy Kentuckiana Humor

How are your cats adjusting to Standard Time?


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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Amazing. Some people need to be careful around those pups, I think.


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Extreme, but steps taking here may be applicable when other animals get their heads stuck.

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A pet from the yard?


Meet The PetMorons

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Zach from Hilton Head has been on the page before. He's enjoying his new home on the golf course.

Rich

Zach looks wonderful on the golf course.

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I should have sent these orange and black cats last week ...

My two boy cats -- Rufus is my golden boy, a dog in a cat body, very sweet and protective, bossy and vocal. Julius is the black blob with lantern eyes, a terrific hunter, yet very cuddly, and my baby. They are five and four years old, respectively.

The tortie is Susannah, who is 14 and usually grouchy, but occasionally sweetens up. I sing "My Girl" to her and "Oh Susannah," and she knows they are about her.

I am skywch, and I usually lurk. Thanks!

Thanks for sending in the great photos of your wonderful, distinctive cats! Susannah can give a Halloween look, can't she?

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Commentary by Saijo:


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PetMoron Adjacent Animals
Encountered by Members of The Horde


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The view from my kitchen window.

King of the Castle and The Prince, 10 minutes ago

Howard in Alberta

Thrilling view, Howard! And great photos. Thanks for sending them in.

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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, October 31

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

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1 Ralphy's still kicking and a lot of work.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 03:24 PM (Sco7b)

2 Mr Trouble got a trip to the vet this morning. Noticed one leg seemed a little swollen and he was limping. Decided to take him in. The vet doesn't think it's broken. Troubles got the good drug and is resting inside.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 07, 2026 03:27 PM (JNr/z)

3 >>>Julius is the black blob with lantern eyes, a terrific hunter, yet very cuddly, and my baby.

I had to scroll back and look for him! I hadn't seen him the first time through.

Posted by: m at November 07, 2026 03:28 PM (odBC9)

4 >>>There is currently (1) cat in front of you for the
heat vent
Estimated wait time: 2 hours

haha!

Posted by: m at November 07, 2026 03:30 PM (odBC9)

5 Fur missiles mama got nice legs

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 07, 2026 03:31 PM (b70jm)

6 Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 07, 2026 03:27 PM (JNr/z)

Thanks for the tip this morning.

Ralphy can be carried. Only 40 pounds.
It's the constant caregiving and making sure he doesn't hurt himsel that's wearing.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 03:31 PM (Sco7b)

7 >>>The view from my kitchen window.
King of the Castle and The Prince, 10 minutes ago
Howard in Alberta

Majestic!

Posted by: m at November 07, 2026 03:32 PM (odBC9)

8 >>>I told Saijo I was going out to dinner tonight and his sister was babysitting the cats and him. I don’t think this is a happy face!

uh-oh

Posted by: m at November 07, 2026 03:37 PM (odBC9)

9 This is the one I had for my old dog. Never really used it.

https://tinyurl.com/mserhh2w

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 07, 2026 03:39 PM (JNr/z)

10 Yay! Moron Horde Pets!

Murderfluff patrol:

Chloe - Napping on the cat tree next to my office window
Penny - Snoozing on my futon in my office
Allie - Siesta on the recliner in my library
Hexie - Wandering around my living room after I woke her up

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 07, 2026 03:40 PM (s2iZv)

11 9 This is the one I had for my old dog. Never really used it.

https://tinyurl.com/mserhh2w

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 07, 2026 03:39 PM (JNr/z)

Thanks. Looks complicated.
The carrying is just easier.
He always tries to do more though. He wants to go up himself.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 03:44 PM (Sco7b)

12 Afternoon, Pet Peoples!

"Fur missiles" indeed!

Skywch, Rufus is easy to pick out as your "golden boy." But I'm confused as to which cat in the second pic is Julius, the "black blob with lantern eyes" -- is he the one whose eyes we see? And then Susannah is the one curled next to him whose head is hard to make out?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 03:49 PM (56Qyq)

13 My springr weighs 85 pounds. Luckily, there are just a couple of steps in the house. He has a step I use for him to get in and out of the car. Sometimes he needs help getting up on the couch. But he won't be around forever, so I do what I can. He can still chase bunnies out in the garden.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 07, 2026 03:51 PM (JNr/z)

14 My furry thugs have adjusted to standard time: The only way it affected them last Sunday was my shifting of their dinner and breakfast times. What used to be 6 am was now 5 am, so I held their breakfast off until 5:30 on Sunday. Dinner I gave them at 5:45 pm, and then breakfast as usual at 6 am Monday.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 03:52 PM (56Qyq)

15 Freddy the Freeloader, the gray tabby with white semi-feral, and Alfred the Gray, the shorthair of that color, are still showing up for chow outdoors: Freddy 2x a day, Alfred for every second or third handout. I suspect he already has a home and they let him roam around. I suppose (he said, heaving a sigh) I'll spring for another $5 bag of the Friskies dry food for them when I hit the store on Monday. It's the Indoor Killer Kittenz who get the expensive IAMS stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 03:55 PM (56Qyq)

16 Murderfluff patrol:

Chloe - Napping on the cat tree next to my office window
Penny - Snoozing on my futon in my office
Allie - Siesta on the recliner in my library
Hexie - Wandering around my living room after I woke her up
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 07, 2026


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I forget who said it, but it's still true: "Cats may have many ailments, but I've never known one afflicted with insomnia."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 03:58 PM (56Qyq)

17 Meow....

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at November 07, 2026 03:58 PM (sAmhv)

18 Pet World Problems

The glass of the sliding door is covered with moth smears and drool.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 03:58 PM (w6EFb)

19 Afternoon all,

Small update of the week.

https://tinyurl.com/dg65258

Those are some cute pet morons. The cats definitely look to be eating well.

Time to curl back up and sleep through my flu.

Posted by: Joyenz at November 07, 2026 03:59 PM (2F0/Y)

20 Ralphy has severe separation anxiety and needs to be around me all the time. So that means the constant carrying and it's a 2 level split. Five stairs to bedrooms, 8 to the computer room and 3 more for the basement.

We have a routine but still.
Like all caregiving it can be a drain.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 04:01 PM (Sco7b)

21 18 Pet World Problems

The glass of the sliding door is covered with moth smears and drool.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 03:58 PM (w6EFb)

Tons of leaves dragged into the house.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 04:01 PM (Sco7b)

22 My visitor, Alfred the Gray, looks much like the gray cat ("blue," the fanciers call it) in the top pic.

OH, and we stopped by a thrift store/cat adoption center out in the western suburbs this am. Lots of antique materials, plates and cups and books and Xmas things, and even a few pieces of furniture. One corner of the shop is devoted to a large screened "porch" with cat trees and toys, and a number of adult cats for adoption. There's even a book you can look through to see the background and details on each one. They had at least one pure black, a couple of gingers, and a domestic longhair ("She's a diva," the lady told us with a smile) who looked much like my Dagny La Siberienne.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:04 PM (56Qyq)

23 My kittehs are good about not having a precise eating schedule. They eat when I wake up and again in the evening when I remember. What they insist on though is going outside about 7:00 am (now 8:00am). I should have never started it. If I don't get up the sister kitteh has learned to open my bedroom plantation shutters and then yells at me. They both want to eat the grass before they start their day.

Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026 04:09 PM (OXhw3)

24 Every time I walk to the kitchen, the older cat follows me and goes for the food dish...
The two remaining cats don't really like human food, so leaving my food out is relatively safe...compared to the dead horny black cat, which would steal food off your plate if you were distracted by even a half second.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 04:13 PM (l3cgK)

25 Trained K9: "FA? FA? FA? FA? Please FA because I really, really want to deliver some FO!"

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 07, 2026 04:13 PM (HlyYF)

26 23 My kittehs are good about not having a precise eating schedule. They eat when I wake up and again in the evening when I remember. What they insist on though is going outside about 7:00 am (now 8:00am). I should have never started it. If I don't get up the sister kitteh has learned to open my bedroom plantation shutters and then yells at me. They both want to eat the grass before they start their day.

Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026 04:09 PM (OXhw3)

At least they don't smoke grass...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 04:14 PM (l3cgK)

27 Great moron pet pictures. Thanks.

That was a touching video about the wild animal rescue people trying to help the fox kit
They were right. What an incredibly small space to get its head caught in. These rescue people always seem like incredibly patient and caring folks. I guess they'd have to be to do that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 04:14 PM (JrHfD)

28 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:04 PM (56Qyq

Sounds like a nice place to visit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 04:17 PM (JrHfD)

29 18 Pet World Problems

The glass of the sliding door is covered with moth smears and drool.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 03:58 PM


True, but are there any nargles in the house?

Go ahead and check, I'll bet you can't find a single nargle.

If so, be sure to thank your furry protectors!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 07, 2026 04:17 PM (HlyYF)

30 Zach looks **ALERT**!

I just finished reading Birdie Horne's charming and funny mystery novel Don't Cross Mo Ellery, in which having to take care of three show-quality adult poodles is just one of the title character's escalating problems. The dogs, she is told, have French names that mean something like "He Who Eats the Brioche," "Liberty, Equality, Brotherhood," and a third Frenchified title I can't recall. Fortunately for Mo and the reader, they go by Jean, Jacques, and again I can't recall the third, but it was a French name. Thus I guess Mo's poodles probably looked like Zach here.

"Oy with the poodles already!"
( -- Lorelai Gilmore, suggesting a new national catchphrase)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:20 PM (56Qyq)

31 I don't know about cats but the dogs think their supper is late every night. They give me that "It's about time" look.

Posted by: Case at November 07, 2026 04:20 PM (En+fz)

32 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 04:21 PM (Ia/+0)

33 My kittehs are good about not having a precise eating schedule. They eat when I wake up and again in the evening when I remember. What they insist on though is going outside about 7:00 am (now 8:00am). I should have never started it. If I don't get up the sister kitteh has learned to open my bedroom plantation shutters and then yells at me. They both want to eat the grass before they start their day.
Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026

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Like having a coffee and an antacid tablet before eating. Sounds sensible, if annoying.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:21 PM (56Qyq)

34 12 Afternoon, Pet Peoples!

"Fur missiles" indeed!

Skywch, Rufus is easy to pick out as your "golden boy." But I'm confused as to which cat in the second pic is Julius, the "black blob with lantern eyes" -- is he the one whose eyes we see? And then Susannah is the one curled next to him whose head is hard to make out?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 03:49 PM (56Qyq)

Julius is in the first photo. Sitting at the left.

Posted by: m at November 07, 2026 04:22 PM (odBC9)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:22 PM (56Qyq)

36 Julius is in the first photo. Sitting at the left.
Posted by: m at November 07, 2026


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Oh, okay! I just didn't see a pure black in either photo.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:23 PM (56Qyq)

37 Piper found a squirrel in the wood pile on the front porch. Chased the hell out of it and actually dispatched it, and then tried to bring it inside to show off. She is awfully fast when she needs to be, even though she's packed on a couple of pounds over the summer.

Also, it is the season of sled dog training, so when we drive in we usually see at least one and often three or four four-wheelers being pulled by full dog teams. The kennels around here are Iditarod dogs, and they need to train about twice daily to get into shape, and until there is reliable snow on the ground, they use the four-wheelers. Lovely dogs, really, and so happy to be out running.

We live near Reddington Kennels, which is the original home of the originator of the Iditarod race. Now it's run by his grandkids. Pretty cool legacy.

There's also a couple of 100 and 200 mile races that take off from our local lake in December and January. Plus the Jr. Iditarod for the kids.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 04:26 PM (5WPt1)

38 >>>True, but are there any nargles in the house?

Yes, we have no nargles! We have no nargles today.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 04:27 PM (w6EFb)

39 Regarding the kittehs waiting in line for a warm place, I've bought warming mats for the stray outdoor furbabies. They work indoors, too. $40-something on Amazon.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 04:29 PM (w6EFb)

40 The two remaining cats don't really like human food, so leaving my food out is relatively safe...compared to the dead horny black cat, which would steal food off your plate if you were distracted by even a half second.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026


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Most of my cats have shown little interest in my food, even when sitting on the dinette table with us. (I know I shouldn't allow it, but hey, whatchagonnado?) Though the late black cat Wolf would sniff at my fish or meat if I got up and left the dish unattended.

Stirling knows when I am preparing frozen fish. He would show up on the kitchen counter even *before* I cut the plastic bag open -- there was no way he could smell it! Finally I figured it out. He was keying on my taking the aluminum foil from the cabinet and scrolling a length out before opening the fish. It's the only time I use the foil, really, so he saw the connection.

I cut open the bag and drain the meltwater into a bowl in the sink, and he laps at that while I prepare the fish out of his reach.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:29 PM (56Qyq)

41 >>>True, but are there any nargles in the house?
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Yes, we have no nargles! We have no nargles today.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026


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Yeah, but those Naugas are a bitch to work with.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 04:30 PM (56Qyq)

42 The real food issue around here is the cheese tax. Payable daily, but the dogs lie about whether one or the other of us has already paid it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 07, 2026 04:30 PM (5WPt1)

43 Baby saved by pet Doberman who noticed his racing heartbeat. "Good news network " site:

https://tinyurl.com/3ahzuvz7

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 04:33 PM (JrHfD)

44 Zach from Hilton Head has been on the page before. He's enjoying his new home on the golf course.

Hopefully he only retrieves those big yellow balls and not the small white ones. Might make the old duffers grumpy.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 04:44 PM (VHUov)

45 I forget who said it, but it's still true: "Cats may have many ailments, but I've never known one afflicted with insomnia."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


It's all relative. "Cat insomnia" is when you can only sleep 14 hours a day instead of 16.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 04:49 PM (VHUov)

46 Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 07, 2026 04:51 PM (t9JcX)

47 I've been extremely catlike this week. I nap often and do little that could be considered useful (except feed Publius, sometimes badly). He doesn't judge me.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 04:57 PM (w6EFb)

48 Hi everyone! Cutie pets AGAIN! I love seeing your critters.

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 05:00 PM (ZdaMQ)

49 Saijo survived his night. But it was a little exciting, a tree branch fell on a transformer knocking the power out. But the kiddo handled it well, she got all the flameless candles out from the hurricane, brought them to my room, and read to the animals by candlelight. 😂

Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 05:06 PM (ZdaMQ)

50 Posted by: Piper at November 07, 2026 05:06 PM (ZdaMQ

Awww. That's sweet!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 05:09 PM (JrHfD)

51 Happy Saturday from the blue state of Texas, y'all

Posted by: Texas Blue at November 07, 2026 05:10 PM (6Xg+m)

52 > How are your cats adjusting to Standard Time?
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Haaaaa haaaaa haaa ha ha *snorts*

Yea

No

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 05:11 PM (RORbl)

53 I have a rabbit that lives in the green space behind my house. Now I have to make sure my sister kitteh does not stalk and attack it. I caught her in mid stalk last week but thought it was for a bird until I saw the bunny.

Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026 05:14 PM (OXhw3)

54 Jake follows me everywhere. If I get up at night, he follows me the four steps to the bathroom.

Is there anyway you could temporarily do everything on the ground floor? That would give you a break.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 07, 2026 05:17 PM (JNr/z)

55 I've wondered about pet birds when they are out of their cages. Do they just excrete all over the place? Poop on your shoulder? Or do they have a bathroom spot that's easy to clean?

Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at November 07, 2026 05:18 PM (OlzlW)

56 There should be a caption under the Susannah, the tortie.. so much personality in that look.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 07, 2026 05:25 PM (kJmSS)

57 Most of my cats have shown little interest in my food

My cat gets very sulky if I eat anything without allowing him the chance to reject it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 07, 2026 05:29 PM (CHHv1)

58 Sadly we had one of our murderfluffs pass this morning, little Shiloh girly was small and frail, we finally had her eating solid food at 6 weeks, this morning was exactly nine. the other 5 are active and healthy.

I am heartbroken, I thought we had nursed her along far enough

Posted by: what the cat drug in at November 07, 2026 05:30 PM (jrgJz)

59 My cat gets very sulky if I eat anything without allowing him the chance to reject it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


How to describe a cat in one sentence.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 05:30 PM (VHUov)

60 Sadly we had one of our murderfluffs pass this morning, little Shiloh girly was small and frail
Posted by: what the cat drug


Aww. Condolences.

Posted by: mikeski at November 07, 2026 05:31 PM (VHUov)

61 HOBBY NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 05:32 PM (Ia/+0)

62 53 I have a rabbit that lives in the green space behind my house. Now I have to make sure my sister kitteh does not stalk and attack it. I caught her in mid stalk last week but thought it was for a bird until I saw the bunny.

Posted by: polynikes at November 07, 2026 05:14 PM


We have lots of cottontail rabbits in our backyard and neighborhood.

In my experience, cats generally do not get very many adult rabbits.

OTOH, "teenage" bunnies have been caught and presented to me on several occasions.

Baby bunnies are another order of magnitude more vulnerable. Their only protection is not to be discovered.

In the spring, if you find a bunny nest you might try keeping your cats in for a few days. Or at least as much as they will tolerate until they decide to destroy your new sofa as the price of your insolence!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 07, 2026 05:32 PM (HlyYF)

63 Posted by: what the cat drug in at November 07, 2026 05:30 PM (jrgJz)

I'm so sorry. It sounds very hard and that you were very devoted to caring for all those little kittens.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 05:33 PM (JrHfD)

64 Ain't no way the on-deck cat waits two hours for his turn on the vent. I'd give it five minutes before the fur flies.

Posted by: Ken at November 07, 2026 05:39 PM (5z7M/)

65 Noodus hobbyana -- marbles!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 07, 2026 05:39 PM (56Qyq)

66 The birds poop everywhere and they throw seeds everywhere.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 07, 2026 05:42 PM (JNr/z)

67 @Skywch: Susannah is a gorgeous Tortie!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at November 07, 2026 05:49 PM (O7YUW)

68 I hope Zach stays safely away from the course alligators!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 07, 2026 06:24 PM (nyHKk)

69 Our first dragon, Peabody (the smartest one of the bunch) discovered the heat vent in the kitchen early on and would happily perch there during heating season. When sufficiently warm, he’d buzz around for a bit and then return to warm up again. The other two? Not so much, bless their little 3 chamber hearts.

Posted by: Coelacanth at November 07, 2026 09:44 PM (wMS25)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Nov. 7

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More Late Color from Don in Kansas on October 16.

All the rain that we didn't get this summer fell during the past three weeks, 8.5 inches worth. The clematis that had gone dormant during the hot, dry weather woke up and is blooming again.

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Ceratotheca triloba

And see the link above for photos and growing information on 'Darlow's Enigma' Rose, Symphyotrichum [Aster] oblongifolium, Salvia azurea, Thunbergia and a white form, plus Helianthus maximiliani (which had kept going since the last time we saw a photo of this magnificent sunflower.

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Ever heard of this? Apparently, it contains Vitamin K. Wonder how many of us could grow it indoors in winter?


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Don in Kansas knows how to prepare for holiday visitors through research:

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Puttering, Self-Improvement and Connection

This is one of the non-political Saturday threads, but if you missed it, someone posted in the comments on a recent thread an AoSHQ thread by Warden from another hard time, in 2012. It is entitled Where do we go from here? We talk about home and preparedness issues here, and we should probably talk sometimes about how we connect with neighbors.

Topics touched on in Warden's post include:

Focus on self-improvement

Get in shape

Outperform

Prepare

Preparation is a topic that fits into this thread. There are some ideas in Warden's post that we may sometimes neglect.


Small things add up

Some interesting ideas on doing the things you can and maintaining an attitude of gratitude.

Some AoSHQ threads have staying power.


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Adventure

Remember the Halloween quilt lady? She and her husband teamed up with a hiking friend for a post-Halloween adventure:

We finally got to hike in the Superstitions. The saguaros are abundant and thriving, the jagged skyline crystal clear blue with puffy clouds, the trail rocky and beckoning us on. We reached the end where there was running water from the rain storms. Also some very cool petroglyphs. There were a lot of people out enjoying this trail today!

After our hike, we drove to Tortilla Flat. I didn't know such a place existed. It's a teeny ghost town. The saloon/restaurant walls are covered in dollar bills. People write their names and the date on the bill and staple it to the wall. Some are layered 4 deep. My favorite had colored over Washington's face with a Batman mask and put a conversation bubble saying "I am Batman." There were even dollar bills under plastic on the tabletop. I'm sure there was at least a million dollars stapled to the walls. For being out in the middle of nowhere, there were a heck if a lot of people having lunch there. The food was great! Part of the road was still flooded, but it wasn't on the part where we drove in.

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Wyatt Earp?


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Gardens of The Horde

What's happening in your garden?


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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Halloween!

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 01:24 PM




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1 The ginko vids are cool.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:31 PM (l3cgK)

2 Morning KT, thanks for showing some of the area less than 25 mins from where AOP and we live.
We ate ate Tortilla flat 2 weeks ago.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 01:31 PM (NnhvP)

3 I'm pretty sure vegan's mouths water when they smell meat cooking...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:32 PM (l3cgK)

4 When I was I student there were two Ginkgo trees on either side of the entrance to the main library at OSU. I don't know whether they were male or female trees but after it rained they always smelled like someone had lost their cookies there.

Posted by: Tuna at November 07, 2026 01:44 PM (lJ0H4)

5 I don't know whether they were male or female trees but after it rained they always smelled like someone had lost their cookies there.
Posted by: Tuna

Female, then... or at least one was. Every ginko sold by nurseries since they were introduced (? when) have been male clones. In any given population, at least 10% will become females.
The seed inside the fruit is what is sold as "ginko biloba" (Latin name of the tree). The fruit is considered a delicacy in Asia, and actually has a neat taste...after you get it past your nose.

Posted by: MkY given p at November 07, 2026 01:49 PM (ik4bQ)

6 We're gonna have fresh maters at Thanksgiving... well, semi-fresh anyway.

Posted by: MkY given p at November 07, 2026 01:50 PM (ik4bQ)

7 Regarding the bar with the dollar bills. There is (or was) a club in Chania, Crete, that did the same thing. It was a watering hole for American soldiers, most of whom were on the island for live fire missile exercises. I left a dollar there myself back in August 1990.

That was where I learned that Ouzo is the devil's drink.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rock 'n' Roll Martian at November 07, 2026 01:51 PM (0aYVJ)

8 One other thing about ginkos... they're very well mannered. They'll drop every leaf on the tree is a day or two.
Compare to the red oak group.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:51 PM (ik4bQ)

9 actually has a neat taste...after you get it past your nose.
Posted by: MkY

As is Durian?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 01:54 PM (NnhvP)

10 Ok, more veggie tales-
Our Magyar peppers (grown for paprika) performed horribly all summer. Since it's cooled off, they've exploded. Go figger.
Smoked a bunch yesterday for drying. Some we smoke, some we don't.
Also, you'd think jalapenos would prefer hot, dry weather (well, I did). We're still getting folks to come pick all they want.
Weird.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:54 PM (ik4bQ)

11 As is Durian?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Dunno. Never had it. I've gotten a few people to try ginko. Most won't.
Tuna's right. Smell's like a kennel.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:56 PM (ik4bQ)

12 I'm pretty sure vegan's mouths water when they smell meat cooking...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:32 PM (l3cgK)

That’s why they get so angry when the next-door neighbor fires up the grill on the patio.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 01:56 PM (6ydKt)

13 I haven't either.
I've smelled it and that was enough.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 07, 2026 01:57 PM (NnhvP)

14 If only the vegans could hear they tiny, muted, screams of the lettuce as it’s turned into salad maybe they’d take a different view on life.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 01:58 PM (6ydKt)

15 That’s why they get so angry when the next-door neighbor fires up the grill on the patio.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Yeah, never got that.
Do I complain when they grill their tofu?
I do not.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:58 PM (ik4bQ)

16 We were supposed to be able to take just one pill a day for all of our nutritional needs by now.

The future is never as advertised.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:00 PM (6ydKt)

17 15 That’s why they get so angry when the next-door neighbor fires up the grill on the patio.
Posted by: SpeakingOf

Yeah, never got that.
Do I complain when they grill their tofu?
I do not.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 01:58 PM (ik4bQ)

They could save a step by throwing it directly in the trash...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:02 PM (l3cgK)

18 16 We were supposed to be able to take just one pill a day for all of our nutritional needs by now.

The future is never as advertised.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:00 PM (6ydKt)

True. No hoverboard yet, and we're 11 years past when they were supposed to be everywhere...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:03 PM (l3cgK)

19 I think the crows have finally given up on my pecan tree. I collected a couple of pounds max, the other...probably 20+ lbs were "collected" by the f'n crows.

I did just harvest another pitaya (cactus fruit--smooth on outside, white on inside like a dragon fruit). The cactus has gone mad; more flowers are developing right now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:05 PM (l3cgK)

20 Thanks KT.
Nice to see Tortilla Flat is still plugging along. Fun place. I am in the woods currently. All the leaves are on the ground . The only splashes of green are the pine needles. Happy Saturday, Horde.

Posted by: scampydog at November 07, 2026 02:05 PM (8EA41)

21 Music behind the ginkgo tree was beautiful, a perfect match for the beautiful tree. And a nice mind-cleanser for a guy who spent the last hour on computer TRYING to renew a license with Texas.

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 02:06 PM (LHPAg)

22 That is a lot of money on the walls.
Seems like it would be a nice place to visit.

I think the cowboys named their bathtub ‘Wyatt Earp’ as a joke or something.
Who can understand cowboy humor?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:06 PM (6ydKt)

23 MkY given p at November 07, 2026 01:50 PM

Congratulations !

Posted by: KT at November 07, 2026 02:06 PM (X8QDB)

24 I am in the woods currently
scampydog

Don't settle for that 3 year old...

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 02:07 PM (ik4bQ)

25 Here’s the website for Tortilla Flat:

https://www.tortillaflataz.com/

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:08 PM (6ydKt)

26 Don't settle for that 3 year old...
Posted by: MkY
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Lol. A lot of truth in your comment.

Posted by: scampydog at November 07, 2026 02:09 PM (8EA41)

27 25 Here’s the website for Tortilla Flat:

https://www.tortillaflataz.com/

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:08 PM (6ydKt)

Went to Tombstone with the wife many years ago, never been to Tortilla Flat.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:09 PM (l3cgK)

28 scampydog
I stuck a nice hickory last night. Dang thing walked, and I reacted instead of just waiting.
Pretty 8.

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 02:12 PM (ik4bQ)

29 It's that time of year. The leave are turning to fall colors just before them wind takes them down. Even if the aren't brilliant in normal light, when the bright sunlight hits them they are transformed. The browns turn into deep burnished gold and bronze. The reds become all shades of ruby. The yellows can run the gamut from fresh dandelion to almost white. The remaining greens are interspersed throughout. And it all glows, as if lit from within. It is beautiful and almost holy to look at. There is usually just a two week window where the elements all work together but it is a wonderful window.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:13 PM (yTvNw)

30 I stuck a nice hickory last night. Dang thing walked, and I reacted instead of just waiting.
Pretty 8.
Posted by: MkY
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*knows knowingly* pine tree here two years back. Similar series of events.

Posted by: scampydog at November 07, 2026 02:14 PM (8EA41)

31 I'm trying to root some thyme stems. They haven't died or dried up yet. If I look VERY closely there might be the first hints of roots starting. But it's at the point where that might be wishful thinking. Time will tell.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:16 PM (yTvNw)

32 31 I'm trying to root some thyme stems. They haven't died or dried up yet. If I look VERY closely there might be the first hints of roots starting. But it's at the point where that might be wishful thinking. Time will tell.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:16 PM (yTvNw)

ISWYDT

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:17 PM (l3cgK)

33 Went to Tombstone with the wife many years ago, never been to Tortilla Flat.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:09 PM (l3cgK)

If I ever get to Arizona I’d like to see both of them.

Tortilla Flat looks like a nice daytrip.
The surrounding area is supposed to be nice and Southwestern.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 02:19 PM (6ydKt)

34 JTB
Aren't they like sweet tates? Root in water?

Posted by: MkY at November 07, 2026 02:19 PM (ik4bQ)

35 34 ... "Aren't they like sweet tates? Root in water?"

MkY, Yup. I have the thyme stems in water in bright but not direct light. They haven't died yet so that's a moral victory.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:24 PM (yTvNw)

36 Aren't they like sweet tates?
How'd muh sweet tate lat nite?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 07, 2026 02:27 PM (r50HQ)

37 In past years I took care of my plants better. This summer, the lychee died. The longan almost died (watered it in time). Blackberries went close to extinct (but are damn persistent). Only Pecan, Guavas, and Cactus did well.

I guess not watering much has it's price...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 02:45 PM (l3cgK)

38 I always thought using sunlight was the best for a Christmas cactus and it does OK. But when I switched to a full spectrum LED light instead of a window or regular grow light, the thing is taking off. New leaves, stronger growth, and more flower buds than before. No fancy setup, just the bulb in a table lamp. Have to try that with the other succulents.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 02:47 PM (yTvNw)

39 The Superstition Mountains remind me of one of the books I read when I was a kid. I was a voracious reader, and many of the books were about kids who lived out west and had the freedom to roam in nature. Sometimes they were looking for treasure, and sometimes they just stumbled upon something really cool that made them ask questions and try to figure out what happened. I was fascinated by the sense of adventure.

Are kids nowadays ever getting any adventure out in nature?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 02:50 PM (w6EFb)

40 One of my Christmas cacti has flower buds, which is pretty cool since both of them have been on the back porch, mostly neglected.

Most of my plants have been through a Darwinian torture chamber this summer. Mama kind of sucked up all of my focus, and whatever I had left was drawn into escapist videos. So those who still live are pretty tough cookies.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 07, 2026 02:53 PM (w6EFb)

41 There are so many leaves in the yard. The animals are tracking them in and I'm in a bad mood.

Tuesday looks to be nice so that will get done.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 02:53 PM (Sco7b)

42 sometimes they just stumbled upon something really cool
Nekkid pitchers.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 07, 2026 02:53 PM (BgG0R)

43 Hello folks. Blustery day here in the Mitten.

All that rain has made my kale sprout and my cilantro is clinging to life.

We might get snow next week.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 07, 2026 02:55 PM (kpS4V)

44 The dampness in Canada will make the yard miserable and I have a TON of trees. We had one year, where the town couldn't reallly collect them.

So I prefer to mulch them. Sometimes into December.

In Canada.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 106.5 years old! Puppy at heart! at November 07, 2026 02:58 PM (Sco7b)

45 Cutting and dragging brush, scratched by thorn vines and worn out. Feel like a old coondog. I need a shower, a chili relleno, and a margarita

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 03:19 PM (LHPAg)

46 nood pets!

Posted by: m at November 07, 2026 03:30 PM (odBC9)

47 I love purple. Those flowers are beautiful.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 07, 2026 05:19 PM (kJmSS)

48 From Boise area: Sorry to be late - a busy day of drinking, eating, and shopping with my husband. (Rain on Halloween - zero trick or treaters.)

Lows 34-46, highs 55-64. We've had only a few frosts and no hard freezes yet...

Lots of leaf raking. Oak leaves got piled on the corn patch and burned - sycamore went into bags. Others got put in cages to make future compost.

I noticed bees on my flowering broccolini, so I'll let that last plant be, and instead work on tomato debris.

I started watering my amaryllis bulb to see if I can get it to come back for year 3.

Does brewing beer using strawberries come under gardening or puttering at all? We set up 2 batches, one gallon each, of a mixed fermentation sour/strawberry experimental beer. We also set up a batch of framboise, using red raspberries and whipped-cream vodka - it'll be ready in 3 months or so.

Posted by: Pat* at November 07, 2026 08:58 PM (T9wzS)

It's getting hard to keep all the streams of messaging straight now

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"Our new Constitution is now established, everything seems to promise it will be durable; but, in this world, nothing is certain except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin (November 1789)

Courtesy Statues: The People They Salute

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The Democrats thought that "Our Democracy" was over before last Tuesday. And of course, Trump is still President. So some of them may still think it is over.

But some of them are sounding awfully feisty. On the other hand, I ran across a guy who was cheerfully enthusiastic about Mamdani's popularity in NYC.

Hard to keep up. How should we react?


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On Substack, Michael Smith has had some interesting thoughts. This is from one of his posts from earlier in the week:

James Madison’s Shocked Face

When combined with government, the only human characteristic stronger than the desire to be benevolent toward others is to do it with someone else’s money.

I mentioned yesterday how dismayed I was that in the aftermath of our shellacking on Tuesday, there are the expected people on the left and a surprising number on the right who want the U.S. government to “do something” about the price of tea in China (archaic reference alert).

It reminded me of reading about how, on January 10, 1794, James Madison rose in the House of Representatives to challenge a proposal to provide financial assistance to French refugees who had fled the violence in Saint-Domingue (present-day Haiti).

Setting aside the fact that Americans are still paying for benevolence program in Haiti some 232 years later, Madison did not question the suffering of the refugees or the humanitarian impulse behind the appropriation, rather whether Congress possessed the constitutional authority to spend taxpayers’ money on charity.

According to the Annals of Congress, Madison declared:

"Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."

He continued:

"It would puzzle any gentleman to lay his finger on any part of the Constitution which would authorize the government to interpose in the relief of the St. Domingo sufferers."

Drawbacks to such humanitarian relief and the ingenious way Congress bypassed Monroe's objection are summarized in a colorful manner at the link above.

Madison’s objection was evidently the last time anyone in government could be shamed about such spending since today, depending on how broadly we define benevolence, roughly two-thirds to three-quarters of federal spending now goes toward social insurance, income support, healthcare, and other programs intended to provide financial or material benefits to individuals. That seems a remarkable proportion when considered against Madison’s objection to spending $15,000 for humanitarian relief.

Which brings me to the “affordability” crisis, and how the newly anointed Democrat controlled government deigns to “solve” it.

Some of the bright ideas for extracting money from groups under current disapproval are described, along with other typical plans to increase dependency on government. Mr. Smith also mentions things that the Congress DOES NOT intend to do to improve "affordability". This is refreshing.

Did I mention we are still sending aid to Haiti 232 years later?

Madison's corpse is so pissed right now.

And others remember:

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SHOULD WE TAKE A LOOK AT HISTORY OF PSYCHOLOGY?

Book Review reminding us of the limits of second-hand benevolence

"The Knife Went In"

Dalrymple's "Life at the Bottom" Turns 25

Empathy without that troublesome suicidal empathy
(You can listen to this article in a high-quality reading at the link.)

Summary:

Decline is a choice, and self-governing citizens can choose renewal instead.

Theodore Dalrymple is among the English-speaking world’s most insightful social critics. For decades, he has written about the pathologies that have ruined our cities and resigned entire neighborhoods to the antagonist world of the state of nature. . .

Among his most important works is the 2001 book, Life at the Bottom: The Worldview that Makes the Underclass now out in a new twenty-fifth anniversary edition. Drawing on his experience as a physician and psychiatrist in some of the most blighted slums of our society, Dalrymple argues that the West is facing a crisis of personal responsibility rooted in the determinist ideology that has infected the elite. As he writes in the book’s original introduction, “In the modern world, bad ideas and their consequences cannot be confined to a ghetto.”

One striking thing about Dalrymple’s work is its profound empathy. “In the course of my work over fifteen years, I spoke to thousands of people about their lives and the lives of the people around them,” he writes in the new preface. “As a result, I could not conceive of them as simply vectors of abstract social forces acting upon them.” A doctor treats persons, not statistics, human beings with real agency and life stories. Yet Dalrymple does not let his empathy calcify into excuses for their poor decisions. As much as he acknowledges how the “system” has failed his patients, he maintains that criminals bear ultimate responsibility for their crimes.

Armed with this experience, Dalrymple argues that modern liberalism’s great error is its social determinism. “The very form of the explanation offered by liberals for modern crime—from social conditions direct to behavior, without passing through the human mind—offers those who commit crime an excuse in advance,” he writes. The social scientists who attribute crime to poverty or inequality are in fact guilty of dehumanizing the very people they claim to want to help. By attributing social dysfunction to grand, sweeping trends outside of the control of any individual, they deny the impoverished a path out of squalor and delinquency.

One of Dalrymple’s most fascinating examples of how ideology disempowers people is the shockingly common use of passive voice in his sessions with British prisoners and addicts. His patients often spoke of themselves as “marionettes of happenstance,” in a dialect he calls “the psychobabble of the slums.” The fashionable relativism of academia and other areas of professional life filtered down to these unfortunates through mass culture, giving them a vocabulary to shift blame as far away as possible. Though many had “absorbed nothing at school, [they] had nevertheless absorbed the shibboleths of political correctness” and therapeutic culture. The immiserated then wield the notion of a true “inner self” to ward off responsibility, speaking as if they have no control over their actions. One man who had been guilty of stabbing someone uttered “the knife went in,” rather than acknowledge he chose to thrust the blade.

Leftist ideology adopted by Criminal:

"The knife went in."

Leftist ideology adopted by Journalist:

"The truck went up onto the sidewalk and hit five pedestrians."

Sources of social pathologies which affect the underclasses and criminal classes are described. Few of them are remedied significantly by passing bills or adopting "programs.

While these cases are depressing, the book is even more troubling when Dalrymple delves into the ideological roots of this mass enervation. He has a particular ire for insipid Rousseauian theories of the self, which cloak selfishness in romanticism. “This is the lie that is at the heart of our society, the lie that encourages every form of destructive self-indulgence to flourish,” he writes, “for while we ascribe our conduct to pressures from without, we obey the whims that well up from within, thereby awarding ourselves carte blanche to behave as we choose. Thus we feel good about behaving badly.” As a doctor, he is concerned above all with the practical effects of these theories—and his case-studies demonstrate how dangerous the lie of subjective morality truly can be.

Beyond his medical experience, Dalrymple’s upbringing under the roof of his outright communist father predisposed him to see the fatal flaws in collectivistic social theories. One essay recounts a barbaric episode in which his old man viciously destroyed a collection of old Victorian paintings on little more than a whim as a metaphor for the total cultural leveling of British society. Out of devotion to egalitarian and anti-colonial ideology, the bureaucrats of the centralizing state have graffitied or torn down the physical remains of the past. In both Britain and America, people are governed as if we were livestock, and our places are treated little better than pigsties. Is it any wonder that the prevailing mood of our age is despair?

Now I understand Dalrymple better! His early exposure to communism helps explain why he so effectively notices the destructiveness so prevalent in the Left today. There's more on specific actions of politicians, bureaucrats and ideologues at the link above.

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Another interesting way to look at the actions of Trump, from Michael Smith:

The King in the North

Sometimes leading means poking the bear to see what he will do.

As an executive, I’ve always hated working on the required 1-, 3-, and 5-year plans. I worked with my teams to create them because they were required and because the analysts wanted numbers even if they were bullshit. At best, they were believable bullshit and only directionally correct.

My approach to understanding policy and politics is to define electoral politics and the subsequent governing stages with a mashup paraphrase of Mike Tyson and General George S. Patton:

“Everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face, your enemy gets a vote in what you do, and a good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.”

I had a couple of mentors during my early career who taught me the difference between a manager and a leader was that a leader makes decision and then course corrects when necessary and a manager just follows the plan because nobody ever blames someone for following “the plan”.

My first mentor told me, “Son, you already know a bear is a bear and generally know what bears do but sometimes you have to have the courage to poke the bear to find out exactly what he will do. The trick is to know when, where, and how hard to poke him and not only that, know what you are willing to do after he is poked.”

So, I guess that is my basis for supporting President Trump. He seems to poke the bear to see what the bear will do and then adjust accordingly based on that feedback.

That’s really the extent of his plan.

We need to acknowledge the difficulty of defining the problems we now face.

We need to do some bear poking.

The first step is to understand the enemy. Ours can be understood in their words, but also in their actions – so let’s look at both for a moment.

I really recommend clicking on the link for the following section of this essay, which provides examples of the behavior of our domestic opposition. Rather unsettling. Frightening, actually.

So, we already know the bear is a bear and have some insight into what that bear is going to do. They are showing us in real time.

The question we must answer is whether we have the courage to do what needs to be done.

So far, the GOP has not shown that courage and because we haven’t, the Democrats are about to give us yet another lesson in how far they are willing to go.

I’ll admit to liking HBO’s Game of Thrones – a lot - one scene that keeps penetrating my mind is the Battle of the Bastards in season 6, when Jon Snow stands alone facing Ramsay Bolton’s army. That seems to be our destiny because it is repeated again and again – when we do find a leader worthy of the fight, our army deserts him.

Right or wrong, Trump demonstrated the resolve to go shield to shield with the worst of the Democrats – but in the end, like Jon Snow, he was left alone on the battlefield.

If we want that to change, we need to field the right army.


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Founders

Some of the Founders had it tough:

Statues: The People They Salute

NAME the Signer of the Declaration of Independence who was dragged from his bed and marched in only a nightshirt and breeches in freezing weather to prison by the British.

RICHARD STOCKTON signed the Declaration of Independence knowing his life, fortune and sacred honor was at risk. Four months later he was imprisoned.

Stockton had been moving his family to safety because the British were following George Washington and his army into New Jersey after the Battle of Long Island, when a treacherous neighbor of the friend whose home he had moved his family to, led a band of loyalists to Richard Stockton.

They dragged Stockton from his bed and marched him improperly clothed (only a nightshirt and breeches) in freezing weather to a common jail in Perth Amboy, New Jersey. Later he was moved to Provost prison in New York City, which was notorious for its harsh conditions. It is estimated that about three times as many prisoners died in the prisons and prison ships of New York City, as soldiers in combat during the Revolutionary War years.

After five weeks of being locked in irons and nearly starved, Stockton was released. The condition of his release was that he was not to engage in American affairs during the fight for freedom. His health was compromised to such an extent, that it is doubtful he could have contributed much on the battlefield. His home had been plundered of his furniture and livestock. His extensive library had been destroyed. His monetary wealth was also gone as he had donated most of it to the cause.

Richard Stockton died before the Revolutionary War ended in 1781 at the age of 51. He is the subject of one of the two statues representing New Jersey in the National Statuary Hall Collection in the U.S. Capitol.

More at Diana Erbio's Substack

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Weekend

The Week in Pictures: Electoral Degringolade Edition

Well THAT was no fun. No fun at all. But what is the Democrat plan for improving America? You can summarize it in one word—no, not “affordability,” but subpoenas. Think this is an overstatement? Let’s start here, and cheer up, this will be the Democrats’ undoing. (At least Newt Gingrich had a Contract with America with a policy agenda his House largely passed. The Democrats have no policy proposals for “affordability,” and appear instead to have a Contract on America.)

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Music

Soldier's Joy

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, Halloween Miscellany

Comments are closed on the thread above so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Follow-up

The people who asked questions about COVID early on may sometimes get a little weird, but sometimes they make some good points and point us in some useful directions, even now. Independent of the piece below, I saw a comment by Bret Weinstein stating that COVID would have been the biggest scientific investigation (or words to that effect) IF DATA HAD BEEN COLLECTED AND WERE BEING ANALYZED.

There are still some independent-minded people who maintain an interest in what happened. TWISTED Thursday, November 5, 2026 C&C NEWS

Good morning, C&C, it’s Thursday! Apologies for the late delivery— your author is navigating the nation’s airports again (ugh). Our election hangover continues, creating a challenge to report real news, since the Great Shellacking is still busy throwing its weight around. But, only 48 hours in, twists and turns are appearing and some of the numbers are paying hide-and-go-seek. Today’s roundup describes what’s causing folks to scratch their heads a little. Plus, more good news from Florida.

By the way, I’m en route to the lovely city of Chattanooga, where I’m attending the Brownstone Institute’s sixth annual conference, “The Challenge Ahead.” For two days, a crowd of doctors, scientists, journalists, and assorted heretics of various sizes and descriptions will compare notes on how to unwind the capture of our institutions, preferably before the next “two weeks to flatten the curve” arrives.


Posted by: K.T. at 11:01 AM




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1 WTF is going on in Poland?? 12 dead and and it looks like the shooter was killed

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 07, 2026 11:07 AM (ubCxQ)

2 Thanks I nooded.

Also Gateway Pundit has had good articles on the one in a trillion results.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 11:07 AM (Sco7b)

3 Sources of social pathologies which affect the underclasses and criminal classes are described. Few of them are remedied significantly by passing bills or adopting "programs.

Bills and programs are treating the symptoms, rather than curing the disease. We know how to cure the disease, we just choose not to.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 07, 2026 11:07 AM (Riz8t)

4 It's always fraud. Expect it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 11:09 AM (RORbl)

5 You get what you tolerate.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 07, 2026 11:13 AM (2Ez/1)

6 20 million new Dem votes.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:15 AM (adwj9)

7 Won’t be long until all these statues are removed and replaced with statues of el Sayed and the like.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:17 AM (adwj9)

8 Poland attacker kitted out in full battle-rattle. Looks to be white with longish hair. No beard pic.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 07, 2026 11:17 AM (nEUC6)

9 The truck went up onto the sidewalk and hit five pedestrians."

Read that as "hit five lesbians"

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 07, 2026 11:18 AM (PB/r3)

10 From KT's post:
"But what is the Democrat plan for improving America?"

The Dems/leftists/Commies/terrorists (but I repeat myself) have no interest in improving America. They are only interested in the ability to destroy, for their own power and benefit, whatever is good.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 11:25 AM (yTvNw)

11 Gas price is going to fall due to natural market forces. Dems will take credit, msm will give them credit.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:29 AM (adwj9)

12 Thanks for the bit on Richard Stockton, K.T. He was a great man, and I appreciate Diana Erbio's substack article on him. I have visited his family home and visited the graveyard where he is buried.
John Witherspoon, who was a clergyman and the President of what became Princeton University, also signed the Declaration. After BLM, some dolts from the school and community wanted to tear his statue because he owned a slave, without any knowledge of how he treated the slave, but wiser heads prevailed and the statue still stands.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 11:29 AM (JrHfD)

13 Polish shooter used an AR-15/M4 style rifle? Just how readily available are such American weapons in Poland? Or elsewhere in Europe? Wondering if this was some known nutbar spun up by the Deep State to create FUD?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 11:30 AM (yky4J)

14 IIRC, Dalrymple's book, while published in 2001, was compiled through his many experiences in prior years. So it's 25 years old now, but the insights go back another 25 years. That's at least 50 years of rot, and we all know it goes back much further.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 07, 2026 11:33 AM (QaH55)

15 Take a look at what's happening in Europe. Who is allowing it to happen and who is funding it?

You likely won't be surprised that some of the same groups that have been funding chaos over there are also doing the same thing with NGOs here.

I would once again urge any and all on X to read the stuff DataRepublican has been posting. Those elections were every bit as real as Biden getting 81 million votes in 2020.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

16 I hope you don’t mind me posting this here. I took too long writing it and didn’t know a new thread was up.

252 220 Sickening.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 10:30 AM (U/Byj)

Sickening isn’t even close to how I feel. Not even a scintilla close. The left didn’t like Whitmire because he was considered a “moderate” mayor pre the steal. We see how long that lasted.

Another massive steal is going to just casually go on by and not a damn thing will happen. I’ve voted in TX elections since 1976 and some of those state wide races (RR comm, comptroller etc) are ignored a lot of the times. People pick Pres, Sen, CD rep and move on. Everyone one of those offices Ds Iwon by huge margins. And we no longer have the straight ticket lever. And when a state moves right or left, it’s usually incremental, e.g. you would have seen R govs winning by smaller margins. Not become CA overnight. I’ll concede some of the losses for the reasons we’ve been fed, but not this nationwide level. 20 million votes is the new 11 million votes. Sorry for the rant.
Posted by: TxAnn at November 07, 2026 11:26 AM (itAg7)

Posted by: TxAnn at November 07, 2026 11:35 AM (itAg7)

17 > "But what is the Democrat plan for improving America?"
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Depends on what the definition of "improving" is.

Improving for (D) is one thing. Improving for (R) is something entirely different.

Neither, IMO, has the public's best interest at heart. At least not as a priority. Their own best interests are paramount.

This IS, the leading problem we face.

The GOP is inward facing... in it for their own benefit. The left is in it to fundamentally change the country to their benefit. One, that apparently suggests long term stability for the (D).

Both parties are corrupt. Pick the "better" of the worst? Or the one that "you" think will be "better" for you down the road?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 11:35 AM (RORbl)

18 Pick the "better" of the worst? Or the one that "you" think will be "better" for you down the road?
****

There is no better. There is only Zuul.

Posted by: clarence at November 07, 2026 11:40 AM (4nyld)

19 @datarepublican has a book out called "Unelected" under her real name Jennica Pounds. I got the kindle version as the hard back is around $35. I also believe authors get more money per unit with digital formats. I want to support her work as she's a warrior for freedom!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 07, 2026 11:44 AM (VCgbV)

20 Two years to flatten the country.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2026 11:45 AM (Cqx++)

21 Polish account," Interestingly, the attacker was wearing gear resembling that used by counterterrorism units. "

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 07, 2026 11:48 AM (nEUC6)

22 I’ve been voting since 72 (Nixon), was a part of the Farmer protest (100+ tractors) on the state capitol, The Tea Party, and MAGA. What’s next? January Tenther? Octo-Generain Crusader?

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 11:52 AM (LHPAg)

23 Here's what weed was like in the 1970s. Fourteen minutes of tragicomedy:
youtube.com/watch?v=YbVMbuoAwzI

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 11:53 AM (Jr5Lq)

24 > @datarepublican has a book out called "Unelected" under her real name Jennica Pounds. I got the kindle version as the hard back is around $35. I also believe authors get more money per unit with digital formats. I want to support her work as she's a warrior for freedom!
Posted by: lin-duh
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There was an interview with her... earlier in the year IIRC where she discussed (a little bit) about her work with DOGE during the early days of Trump II. Her introduction to the corruption and fraud was... in her words, unbelievable. And increased her desire to unravel the ball of string. Which is an amazing piece of work unto itself.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 11:54 AM (RORbl)

25 Thx K.T.
I pretty sure the left would love to drag every conservative and MAGA person out of their beds like Stockton. Stay armed and ready

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 07, 2026 11:56 AM (7XuqV)

26 Polish account," Interestingly, the attacker was wearing gear resembling that used by counterterrorism units. "
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 07, 2026 11:48 AM (nEUC6)

"resembling" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. All military/paramilitary police battle rattle pretty much has a sameness, the world over. Unless name badges and shoulder flashes, etc. were used or copied, it's just milsurp tacticool duds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 11:58 AM (yky4J)

27 The left thinks we are knuckle dragging cretins who don't know what's good for ourselves mainly because they think we aren't educated. I can play dumb if I have to.
"Oh, I don't follow politics."
"I'll just ask my husband how to vote."
"What?? I don't watch/listen to the news."

Posted by: lin-duh at November 07, 2026 12:02 PM (VCgbV)

28 After the Tuesday results I was livid for a couple of days. I cursed the lying candidates, the lying mainstream media, and the shit for brains who voted for or supported (looking at the Bush people in Texas) the leftist freaks who won. Economics aside, the perversion of justice the Dems will unleash is sickening.

Wallowing in impotent rage is no way to live. Then I had a bit of clarity and perspective. I'm in my 70s with a loving wife and no debts. My need to engage in current culture is very limited and can be reduced easily. I intend to focus on the people and things that bring me peace and joy, looking for what is beautiful in the world. I actually have those things on hand.

If I was fifty years younger my reaction would have been to stay enraged and betrayed, living in resentment. Now I can afford to take a different path, not of indifference but with focus on what is important.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 12:02 PM (yTvNw)

29
Morning, all.

I'm contemplating this change: start confronting some of the idiocy instead of putting it on Mute. I joined Facebook about 2 years ago for ONE purpose -- someone was using it to organize a reunion I was invited to. I keep getting notifications from the group, and I've seen some of my former colleagues posting the truly insane stuff -- ICE is the Brownshirts, etc. I used to think to myself "She's gone insane" and ignore it, but maybe now I'll start answering. I don't care if everyone else sees it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

30 "Wallowing in impotent rage is no way to live." Concur.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 12:05 PM (Jr5Lq)

31 "resembling" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. All military/paramilitary police battle rattle pretty much has a sameness, the world over. Unless name badges and shoulder flashes, etc. were used or copied, it's just milsurp tacticool duds.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


True, but that stuff is not as easily purchased in europe as it is in the US. That and the decked out AR, which is not readily available in Poland, is very weird.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 07, 2026 12:05 PM (nEUC6)

32 Uh huh

>>@PamelaHensley22
·
2h
Look at California's statewide results. Governor 64-35, Lt. Governor 64-35, Secretary of State 64-35, Controller 64-35, Treasurer 64-35, Attorney General 64-35. Same numbers, different races.

Nothing to see here. This was the most secure election ever.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 12:06 PM (viF8m)

33
I can play dumb if I have to.
"Oh, I don't follow politics."
"I'll just ask my husband how to vote."
"What?? I don't watch/listen to the news."
Posted by: lin-duh

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I like that approach if any of our Democrat friends suddenly realize they're getting what they voted for good and hard. The mileage tax if it happens would be perfect. "Well, I kinda don't like it, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's political. Anyway, politics is so divisive. That's why I don't get into them."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 07, 2026 12:08 PM (XJ22o)

34 KT,
Thanks for the quote from Clarence Thomas. As usual, his brilliance shines through.

Posted by: JTB at November 07, 2026 12:08 PM (yTvNw)

35 True, but that stuff is not as easily purchased in europe as it is in the US. That and the decked out AR, which is not readily available in Poland, is very weird.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 07, 2026 12:05 PM (nEUC6)

Exactly why I speculated upthread that it may have been a known nutbar, spun up and enabled by EU-Globohomo to create fear in the populace.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 07, 2026 12:10 PM (yky4J)

36 Forget it, Jack. It's California town.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2026 12:11 PM (Cqx++)

37 I really, really like post-election Bridget Phetasy.

Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 12:13 PM (rj6Yv)

38

Cash App, Chewy, Boll & Branch, and Lola Blankets said on Friday that they no longer sponsor or advertise leftist Jennifer Welch’s I’ve Had It podcast, according to company statements and customer service messages shared online amid backlash.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2026 12:15 PM (Cqx++)

39 I know there are some here who think Joe Rogan is a dope-smoking meathead, but I would recommend the pod he just dropped with Calley Means. Calley is a good man. Smart, honest and sincere. Traits that are just about non-existent in Washington, and he of course, was ejected from the system.

https://tinyurl.com/593f6ebn

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 07, 2026 12:18 PM (QaH55)

40 Everyone has to do what they feels is best for them. Myself, I am not going to retreat. I have been talking to local Republicans and Republican youth groups, setting up a civics 101 class and a open debate on socialism. I will be having a conversation with Darrell Harris about his campaign in a solid blue state.
Spencer Pratt has the the right messaging idea in today's climate and needs to be emulated.

The left wants us to back away and back down.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 07, 2026 12:20 PM (8Uo7a)

41 Gas price is going to fall due to natural market forces. Dems will take credit, msm will give them credit.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 11:29 AM (adwj9)
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They carry too much Green Power and Fossil Fuel Hatred to make that work. Dems were elected without a mandate to do anything but fling poo like rabid monkeys at the Administration. That's going to get old quickly.

Posted by: mrp at November 07, 2026 12:20 PM (rj6Yv)

42 "setting up a civics 101 class" That's a great idea! Good luck!

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 12:22 PM (Jr5Lq)

43 DataRepublican (small r) sees the 15% shift across the board from early voting to final tabulation. She says it’s consistent everywhere. She’s not ready to call it fraud, but she does seem worried.

https://x.com/DataRepublican

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 12:23 PM (ZVgZ4)

44 Great stuff, KT. Thank you!

Posted by: Emmie at November 07, 2026 12:25 PM (OlzlW)

45 Nothing to see here. This was the most secure election ever.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 12:06 PM

Wall Street Apes @WallStreetApes

Official Election Administration and Voting Comprehensive Report buried all the way on page 193 of the document shows Texas processed 2,900,357 new valid voter registrations between 2022-2024 without proof of citizenship

Documented proof of citizenship like birth certificate, passport and naturalization papers is not required at the time of voter registration in Texas

56.5% of Texas voter registration were classified as “new valid registrations.”

This is extremely suspicious that 55% of Texas voter registrations were “new”

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 07, 2026 12:28 PM (P5BPp)

46 Mediscare for all ends one of the prime reason to join a union, great insurance.
Maybe some job protection and maybe a few more bucks but the real Cadillac was the insurance.
Would love to be in the meeting where the DSA sells the union bosses and the one thing they control to control their members.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 12:29 PM (/+uur)

47 PS
Thanks for the blessing of eyesight.
My docs found on Monday the both my cornea transplants are not just healthy but have reduced my cornea swelling.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 12:30 PM (/+uur)

48 "the meeting where the DSA sells the union bosses"

DSA: 'Here's your bribes.'
Union Boss: 'Gosh, thanks! Lunch is on me!'

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 12:31 PM (Jr5Lq)

49 This is extremely suspicious that 55% of Texas voter registrations were “new”
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 07, 2026 12:28 PM (P5BPp)

Over 20 million new registrations after the 2022 midterms.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 12:32 PM (/+uur)

50 Good morning, not too late I hope.
Coffee will be kicking in any moment.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 12:34 PM (vPv7/)

51 DSA: 'Here's your bribes.'
Union Boss: 'Gosh, thanks! Lunch is on me!'
Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 12:31 PM (Jr5Lq)

Now take that message to your members that coughed up about $20 B/year since 2013 (Obamacare start) to not be in Obamacare.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 12:34 PM (/+uur)

52 Can't be repeated enough. Every year 1,000,000 anchor babies become eligible to vote. The numbers have exploded in the last few years and we are seeing those effects now.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 07, 2026 12:36 PM (8Uo7a)

53 The *point* of our current government is to take money from one group (us) and give it to another (the left)

We've spent decades trying to change that and accomplished nothing.

And this is one major reason the left is so animated. This isn't a a hobby for them - this is their "job"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 12:37 PM (sKqQm)

54 I mentioned this earlier in another thread; there's speculation among some online data sleuths that the midterms were rigged. Not with ballots, but changed votes after they were submitted to be tabulated.

The results stink. No way 20+ million (R) voters defected in the states that flipped.

AI is suspected as being used to fake the results to "look" like a proper election. But... AI is being used to show that the results would look exactly like this... if you used AI. Debatable either way....

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 12:37 PM (RORbl)

55 43 DataRepublican (small r) sees the 15% shift across the board from early voting to final tabulation. She says it’s consistent everywhere. She’s not ready to call it fraud, but she does seem worried.

https://x.com/DataRepublican
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 12:23 PM (ZVgZ4)

I read her post as saying the day-of voting trends were consistent with the early voting numbers, so no obvious anomalies. IDK.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 07, 2026 12:38 PM (QaH55)

56
Union Boss: 'Gosh, thanks! Lunch is on me!'

How important are union bosses in the AI/robotic age?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 07, 2026 12:38 PM (Cqx++)

57 "Now take that message to your members"

Dissident Union Member: 'This sucks.'
Union Boss: 'Nice job you have there. Be a shame to lose it.'

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 12:39 PM (Jr5Lq)

58 Just want to see what the average % of new registered voters is in each election year, going back 30 years. Without that context impossible to say if the figure is anomalous.

Ditto for mid-term vote totals. Dems added 20M (40%) to vote totals vs. last mid-term (2022).

Haven't checked but that figure seems massively, massively anomalous. Surely some election experts are drawing up this chart as I type? I would guess 5% is a typical variation cycle/cycle. Most elections are much closer than people think. A House seat where typical incumbent's victory margin is 5% is usually called "safe".


Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 12:40 PM (U/Byj)

59 Without proof of citizenship.

Posted by: Eromero at November 07, 2026 12:40 PM (LHPAg)

60 I remember in 2020 thinking this election will not stand.. There was obvious cheating and it will be overturned... Don't get your hopes up anything will change the results of the midterms... It will be the same as 2020

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 12:40 PM (+gK6I)

61 Martini Farmer, the TX SoS's office did not publish any vote totals from 8pm until after 3am. That has not happened before. Precinct totals were delayed for over 6 hours.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 07, 2026 12:41 PM (8Uo7a)

62 20 million new voters all voting Democrat?
In a mid term.

Sure, Jan.

But nothing will be done about it and these 20 million “voters” will vote for AOC in 2028 as well.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 07, 2026 12:42 PM (adwj9)

63 GOP vote totals were I believe stable, same as 2022. Which seems logical. And also means no significant alienation or erosion of support. Which along with pre- and exit-survey (AFAI have seen) renders the simplistic analysis attributing losses to one issue implausible.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 12:42 PM (U/Byj)

64 The thing that’s going to suck is the return of woke crap and censorship/deplatforming bullsh*t.

Along with all of the nonsense investigations and garbage legislation that’s going to be forthcoming.

The first order of business for the donks is nuking the filibuster, so the GOP is going to be even more of a useless pile of dogsh*t than usual.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 12:42 PM (V4S8g)

65 That stupid bint in Alaska is ahead and we all know how that is gonna end up...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 12:44 PM (+gK6I)

66 So now Alaska is California?

Great.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 07, 2026 12:45 PM (V4S8g)

67 49 This is extremely suspicious that 55% of Texas voter registrations were “new”
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 07, 2026 12:28 PM (P5BPp)

Over 20 million new registrations after the 2022 midterms.

Posted by: r hennigantx
----

Straw posted and article from 2025 validating that, among other things, Xi printed over 200,000 US Govt IDs for the 2020 election. From, DDG's AI on demographics, yesterday, Harris County (Houston) of 2025 has '600,000 undocumented aliens'.

Now do alien friendly Bexar County (San Antonio) and liberal Dallas County (Dallas). Amongst all the distractions people do not acknowledge that China is at war with us and its implications.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 12:46 PM (vPv7/)

68 Here's a link to @WallStreetApes that includes analysis from @TruthAnswersAll which has a very good explanation for the 15% difference. IMO this election was stolen using a couple of different methods, and this algorithmic one is very compelling:

https://tinyurl.com/4w8vu2wn

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 07, 2026 12:46 PM (3ImbR)

69 66


A lot of States have become CA all of a sudden

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 12:47 PM (+gK6I)

70 It's me donna, a convicted felon was elected to the State House in Texas. They are still trying to get her seated.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 07, 2026 12:47 PM (8Uo7a)

71 "She’s not ready to call it fraud"

The data IS compelling, but DJT isn't claiming fraud this time. I just checked his Truth Social, and he's posting stuff blaming R turnout, not D fraud. If I expected anybody to point out fraud, it would be him, but he hasn't so far.

It's up to the base, and the two-months-remaining R congress, to do something about it, if the President and his DOJ won't.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 12:48 PM (Jr5Lq)

72 Terrible thing about Republicans is that Nancy Pelosi is a Democrat. If she were a Republican she would be slitting throats and kicking ass. Our side has no such person.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 12:49 PM (vPv7/)

73 Ben Had... I really feel for you all... To All of a sudden become a blue State is terrible... Since I'm a Californian with deep Texas roots I'm heartbroken

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 12:49 PM (+gK6I)

74 52 Can't be repeated enough. Every year 1,000,000 anchor babies become eligible to vote. The numbers have exploded in the last few years and we are seeing those effects now.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 07, 2026 12:36 PM (8Uo7a)

I follow a podcast that generally tracks flight activity, and what that means as far as the military shifting assets, etc. All during Biden's term, he was tracking all the contracted flights bringing illegals into the country. Hundreds of them. There point of origin and the destinations in the states. Whatever the actual number was - 10 million? 20 million? - they were dispersed all over the country, not just blue shitholes. You want 20 million more votes? Well, here's one way of getting there.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 07, 2026 12:50 PM (QaH55)

75 51 DSA: 'Here's your bribes.'
Union Boss: 'Gosh, thanks! Lunch is on me!'
Posted by: gp
---

DSA, good job, the transfer to your 501 account is complete.
Your friend.
Chairman XI

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 12:52 PM (vPv7/)

76 I think GOP turnout was flat with 2022. Which is not bad or hard to believe. But somehow Dem turnout increased 40%, which is hard to believe. Puzzled why Trump would say GOP turnout was a problem with this picture.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 12:52 PM (U/Byj)

77 Wonder where Talafreako went for those 2 weeks ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 12:54 PM (+gK6I)

78 22 PM (Jr5Lq)

43 DataRepublican (small r) sees the 15% shift across the board from early voting to final tabulation. She says it’s consistent everywhere. She’s not ready to call it fraud, but she does seem worried.

https://x.com/DataRepublican
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 12:23 PM (ZVgZ4)

That in fact makes me think it was in fact a shift in the electorate rather than fraud. Consider this; if the opposition was powerful enough to put in a 15% fraud in every single jurisdiction in the US, then they are already so powerful that the game is over and there’s no point trying to oppose them anymore. But I don’t believe that.
I believe we’ve entered a time where the population is angry and is going to vote against whoever is in power, flopping back and forth wildly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 07, 2026 12:54 PM (oH6g4)

79 77 Wonder where Talafreako went for those 2 weeks ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 12:54 PM (+gK6I)

Private mental hosp in OH
Same place they sent Lena about every other way

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 12:56 PM (/+uur)

80 The data IS compelling, but DJT isn't claiming fraud this time. I just checked his Truth Social, and he's posting stuff blaming R turnout, not D fraud. If I expected anybody to point out fraud, it would be him, but he hasn't so far.

It's up to the base, and the two-months-remaining R congress, to do something about it, if the President and his DOJ won't.

Posted by: gp
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Yeah, like congress, after doing nothing but roadblocking the president is going to do something in our favor.

And as far as claiming fraud, he pushed it before with no help
he has no expectation of help this time so it's better left alone.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 12:56 PM (vPv7/)

81 They're not gonna change this election.. We just have to move on and do what we can do..

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 12:59 PM (+gK6I)

82 "Puzzled why Trump would say GOP turnout was a problem with this picture."

I think I misinterpreted something he reposted. I saw a tweet saying R turnout was insufficient, but DJT's point was a reply tweet challenging that. I tried to make a tinyurl to link it, but that does not work, so to find it, you can look three hours down from the top.

I do very much regret the error.

Posted by: gp at November 07, 2026 01:00 PM (Jr5Lq)

83 >>>...if the opposition was powerful enough to put in a 15% fraud in every single jurisdiction in the US, then they are already so powerful that the game is over... But I don’t believe that.
~~~~~

15% in every single state and every single race? Weird.

See my #68 for an explanation of where the 15% came from.

Our opposition isn't so powerful, but computers are.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 07, 2026 01:00 PM (3ImbR)

84 Noted earlier this morning, Houston mayor already issued EO for PD to not cooperate with ICE except with violent suspects. This is in violation of TX law. Interesting that he didn't even wait to do this until his fellow lawless vandals are in the governor and AG spots. Might indicate a confidence in brazen acts that is just the beginning. This country really is far gone, and pathetic.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 01:01 PM (U/Byj)

85 I'm torn about the plausibility of fraud. On the one hand, I know the forces that want to conquer and subjugate the US will perform the maximum level of cheating they think they can get away with. On the other hand, I hear a lot of voting people believing really stupid things and showing no attempts to apply discernment to the messages they hear.

Posted by: Emmie at November 07, 2026 01:02 PM (OlzlW)

86 Our opposition isn't so powerful, but computers are.

Posted by: IrishEi ?!
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If computers are opposition controlled?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 01:02 PM (vPv7/)

87 IrishEi, exactly.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 07, 2026 01:04 PM (8Uo7a)

88 No worries gp.

I am curious to see an election expert lay out the historical context here. Hard to believe a 40% leap in turnout, cycle/cycle.

I see an election result that's a mash-up of 1932, 1980, and 2010 - with economic and social conditions firmly in the average/middle range, nothing that unusual. Impossible to make sense of this, unless Servo's right and a large part of the electorate has become even dumber, and more volatile, than ever.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 07, 2026 01:04 PM (U/Byj)

89 Cornyn says if he was the nominee he would have won... Seriously ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 07, 2026 01:06 PM (+gK6I)

90 If JD or DeSantis or Marco can make 2028 happen we have about 15 new reps in Red States.
About 8 or 9 from 2030 census and about 7 or 8 from the 2020 that never got allocated.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 01:08 PM (/+uur)

91 In 2026, once a state goes blue it will stay blue. Like the ComBloc of old. Instead of the Brezhnev Doctrine, it's called the California Doctrine.

I believe Rush BingBang used to talk about it. Once a democrat wins anywhere, they gerrymander and the courts support them and all the weirdos come out to the party to keep it in democrat hands.

Posted by: Good Luck at November 07, 2026 01:08 PM (Ssbab)

92 Until it's proven without a shadow of a doubt to be a legit election.... it's fraudulent. There's still much doubt about it. The answers are.... insufficient in explanation. Hand waving.

At a time that the right needed some stability.... it's gone. It could have made a significant difference. This never, ever seems to afflict the left.

Seems... sus to me. But it is what it is. My personal feelz won't change shit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 07, 2026 01:09 PM (RORbl)

93 Impossible to make sense of this, unless Servo's right and a large part of the electorate has become even dumber, and more volatile, than ever.

The options:

1) People voted solely on the price of gas for the people that had raised it also to $4 four years ago

2) Fraud

3) The Dems turned out lefties in red states at presidential levels through their media campaign

Which of the three I don't know

Posted by: 18-1 at November 07, 2026 01:09 PM (sKqQm)

94 Fraud.

No one was working to secure the vote.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 07, 2026 01:11 PM (Sco7b)

95 >>>If computers are opposition controlled?
~~~~~

Guess I wasn't clear. I meant that our opposition was not overly powerful or intelligent themselves, but computers have changed the game.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 07, 2026 01:11 PM (3ImbR)

96 Good afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 07, 2026 01:12 PM (Dk+mn)

97 El- Sayed on his opposition to Fetterman:

You put one ogre on a pike, and then everyone else gets the message," El-Sayed, D-Mich., reportedly told progressive donors during a private Zoom call, arguing that challenging moderate Democrats in primary elections would send a message to the party's establishment.

What a delightful man! /sarc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 01:15 PM (JrHfD)

98 Martini Farmer, the TX SoS's office did not publish any vote totals from 8pm until after 3am. That has not happened before. Precinct totals were delayed for over 6 hours.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 07, 2026 12:41 PM (8Uo7a)


Vote counting paused overnight? Seems familiar…
Anyone remember a scenario like this in the past? Bueller? Bueller….?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 01:16 PM (ZVgZ4)

99 Interesting that on the whole
(R) hates (D) and Progressive ideas thinking that they have never ever worked.
Interesting on the whole
(D) hate the (R) to down to each person and wishes them death.

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 01:16 PM (/+uur)

100 100

Posted by: r hennigantx at November 07, 2026 01:16 PM (/+uur)

101 >>The data IS compelling, but DJT isn't claiming fraud this time. I just checked his Truth Social, and he's posting stuff blaming R turnout, not D fraud. If I expected anybody to point out fraud, it would be him, but he hasn't so far.

I'd keep your eyes on that. The color revolution plotters are waiting for Trump to act.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 01:17 PM (viF8m)

102 vPv7/)

68 Here's a link to @WallStreetApes that includes analysis from @TruthAnswersAll which has a very good explanation for the 15% difference. IMO this election was stolen using a couple of different methods, and this algorithmic one is very compelling:

https://tinyurl.com/4w8vu2wn
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 07, 2026 12:46 PM (3ImbR)

Two problems with claiming fraud, and I’ll limit this to Texas since that’s what I know.

#1: all 254 Texas Counties count and report their vote totals separately. An across the board 15% would require 254 separate but coordinated fraud operations, including the most conservative counties.
#2; The people in charge of this system were Abbott, Paxton, and the Republican legislature. If they let this happen under their noses, then again there’s no hope and we might as well give up now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 07, 2026 01:18 PM (oH6g4)

103 You put one ogre on a pike, and then everyone else gets the message," El-Sayed, D-Mich., reportedly told progressive donors during a private Zoom call, arguing that challenging moderate Democrats in primary elections would send a message to the party's establishment.

So El-Sayed wants to be put on a pike, does he?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 07, 2026 01:18 PM (ZVgZ4)

104 85 I'm torn about the plausibility of fraud. On the one hand, I know the forces that want to conquer and subjugate the US will perform the maximum level of cheating they think they can get away with. On the other hand, I hear a lot of voting people believing really stupid things and showing no attempts to apply discernment to the messages they hear.

Posted by: Emmie
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From a commenter here: More Democrats voted for Talarico than they have ever voted for a Democrat candidate in a presidential election.

That is a miraculous equation.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 01:21 PM (vPv7/)

105 After what we saw in 2020 with the blatant stealing of the presidential election why would anyone discount Democrat cheating?

It's what they do. It's what they've always done.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (viF8m)

106 I'd keep your eyes on that. The color revolution plotters are waiting for Trump to act.

Posted by: JackStraw
----

If only the mover were to put them in jail.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (vPv7/)

107 You put one ogre on a pike, and then everyone else gets the message,"
****

Vlad the impaler slowly smiles. (Remember, the enemies he faced were Muslim)

Posted by: clarence at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (4nyld)

108 101 >>The data IS compelling, but DJT isn't claiming fraud this time. I just checked his Truth Social, and he's posting stuff blaming R turnout, not D fraud. If I expected anybody to point out fraud, it would be him, but he hasn't so far.

I'd keep your eyes on that. The color revolution plotters are waiting for Trump to act.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 01:17 PM (viF8m)

More Rainbow Revolution than Color Revolution...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:27 PM (l3cgK)

109 Nemo

I'm no fan of most journalists, but El- Sayed really is an obnoxious bully. Article from "Legal Insurrection" site:

https://tinyurl.com/v928wdjb

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 07, 2026 01:27 PM (JrHfD)

110 The only way I see it being possible to cheat at the level needed is through tabulator machine updates by the election authorities or the manufacturer/vendor.

Otherwise, you would have to have inside people in elections offices in well over 2000 counties whose job would be to rig every voting machine by updating its software in person.

There are so many different types and manufacturers of voting machines, fraud would not be easy to carry out.

There are probably still lever machines still in use in places, those can’t be rigged with a software update. And the counties or districts that use paper ballots would be impossible to rig.

So it would have to be tabulators, but I still think it would be an insurmountable job to do this.

How many companies make tabulators?
Can they be rigged via software?
Is it possible to access every tabulator in over 2000 counties to get the job done?

It’s not impossible, but we need a lot more than speculation and graphs and statistical analysis to call it fraud.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 01:27 PM (6ydKt)

111 107 You put one ogre on a pike, and then everyone else gets the message,"
****

Vlad the impaler slowly smiles. (Remember, the enemies he faced were Muslim)

Posted by: clarence at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (4nyld)

He ranked relatively high on the "50 Most Hated" list...Must be all the libbies and Muzzies that hate him.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:28 PM (l3cgK)

112 Vlad the impaler slowly smiles. (Remember, the enemies he faced were Muslim)
Posted by: clarence at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (4nyld)
----------
Actually, he also impaled a shit-ton of ethnic German farmers.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 07, 2026 01:28 PM (amcLV)

113 112 Vlad the impaler slowly smiles. (Remember, the enemies he faced were Muslim)
Posted by: clarence at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (4nyld)
----------
Actually, he also impaled a shit-ton of ethnic German farmers.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 07, 2026 01:28 PM (amcLV)

So an equal opportunity employer impailer.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:29 PM (l3cgK)

114 >>>All 254 Texas Counties count and report their vote totals separately. An across the board 15% would require 254 separate but coordinated fraud operations, including the most conservative counties.
~~~~~

And where do each of he counties send their results?

Ben Had commented: "...TX SoS's office did not publish any vote totals from 8pm until after 3am. That has not happened before. Precinct totals were delayed for over 6 hours."

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 07, 2026 01:29 PM (3ImbR)

115 NOOD Gardening

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 07, 2026 01:29 PM (l3cgK)

116 112 Vlad the impaler slowly smiles. (Remember, the enemies he faced were Muslim)
Posted by: clarence at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (4nyld)
----------
Actually, he also impaled a shit-ton of ethnic German farmers.
****
Well, you know, once you get started...

Posted by: clarence at November 07, 2026 01:32 PM (4nyld)

117 >>If only the mover were to put them in jail.

Trump just ordered the DOJ to go after the people threatening Republican presidents, donors and others including young Republicans threatened by Slotkin. He mentioned her by name.

She is one of the color revolution plotters.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 01:32 PM (viF8m)

118
105 After what we saw in 2020 with the blatant stealing of the presidential election why would anyone discount Democrat cheating?

It's what they do. It's what they've always done.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 01:25 PM (viF8m)

In 2020, the cheat was concentrated in a few major population centers, because those were easy to control. There were no anomalous results in rural, conservative districts. These districts didn’t have enough votes to be worth the effort of rigging.

This time the anomaly is across the board, in every district. It’s either a major shift in the electorate or it’s a power so vast and pervasive that the game is already over, and there’s no point fighting anymore.

Personally, I see one country in particular which bounces wildly from right to left and back because everyone is always pissed off at whoever is in power, and they’ve ended up with a chaotic government dedicated to pandering to whoever yells loudest as a result - France.

We might be turning into France.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 07, 2026 01:32 PM (oH6g4)

119 We might be turning into France.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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Corrupt to the gills.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 01:37 PM (vPv7/)

120 I don’t know how you would change vote totals through the Secretary of State offices, either.

Every polling place and central count office, report to a county or other municipality who then report totals to the state SoS office.

That means there’s a paper trail of records that also must be changed for everything to add up.

You can’t just hack the Secretary of State’s computer and change the numbers because you’d also have to change everybody else’s numbers at the same time.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 07, 2026 01:46 PM (6ydKt)

121 It's not who counts the Stalins.
It's who Stalins the counters.

Posted by: DaveA at November 07, 2026 01:59 PM (PMJuY)

122 1) People voted solely on the price of gas for the people that had raised it also to $4 four years ago

2) Fraud

3) The Dems turned out lefties in red states at presidential levels through their media campaign
___

All of the above.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 07, 2026 02:21 PM (qesug)

123 Noted earlier this morning, Houston mayor already issued EO for PD to not cooperate with ICE except with violent suspects. This is in violation of TX law. Interesting that he didn't even wait to do this until his fellow lawless vandals are in the governor and AG spots. Might indicate a confidence in brazen acts that is just the beginning. This country really is far gone, and pathetic.
Posted by: rhomboid

Maybe Abbot will get off his ass and do..

Nevermind.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 07, 2026 02:36 PM (SN8r1)

124 At least the trip will be entertaining.

>>@jsolomonReports
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>>Trump offers White House press secretary job to UFC CEO Dana White

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2026 02:42 PM (viF8m)

125 “Stephen Miller is the most dangerous person in Trump’s administration and should be fired instead of promoted,” wrote Sen. Andy Kim (D-N.J.) in a post on X.
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Bless Andy's little black heart.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 02:56 PM (vPv7/)

126 Stephen Miller is the most dangerous person in Trump’s administration and should be fired instead of promoted,” wrote Sen. Andy Kim (D-N.J.) in a post on X.

Good choice then.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 07, 2026 03:03 PM (SN8r1)

127 This time the anomaly is across the board, in every district. It’s either a major shift in the electorate or it’s a power so vast and pervasive that the game is already over, and there’s no point fighting anymore.
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I think that means the solution is fighting, rather than trying to manage elections and courts.

FWIW, I think I'm moving into the "elections are bullshit, it's all color revolution" camp. I *just* had an ad on youtube pushing the "Trump is Putin's stooge" shit.

Nearly a week after an election. When he's never running again.

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 07, 2026 03:09 PM (vSvIl)

128 We might be turning into France.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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Corrupt to the gills.

Posted by: Braenyard
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Babylon

Ancient Babylon serves as a profound example of national moral decay, illustrating how a once-mighty and prosperous nation can fall into spiritual blindness and moral bankruptcy through the rejection of God’s ways.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 07, 2026 03:11 PM (XeU6L)

129 That means there’s a paper trail of records that also must be changed for everything to add up.
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Is anyone double checking those records?

Posted by: Methos, inauthentic X-bot account at November 07, 2026 03:20 PM (vSvIl)

130 Not discounting moral decay. I may well be God's way.
But
China is at war with us and is winning. It is winning because neither the electorate nor the majority of politicians acknowledge this fact.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 07, 2026 03:25 PM (vPv7/)

131 Madison was not alone. In 1828, Davy Crockett, then a member of Congress, gave a speech opposing the granting of a pension to a widow, with similar argument, and the same result.

Posted by: buddhaha at November 07, 2026 03:46 PM (CAg82)

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