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Posted by: RI Red at September 13, 2026 07:01 PM (ttrGW) Food Thread: Social Media Recipes And Blending Bourbon...The End Of Our Civilization?![]() Social Media is in many ways a tremendously corrosive influence on our culture, in particular its ability to magnify trivial, tiny trends into seemingly massive movements. And don't get me started on its destruction of our attention spans! One thing I am unsure about though, is the explosion in cooking reels and videos. On one hand, it sure is fun to see other people's culinary creations. On the other hand, a lot of those people are shitty cooks but better videographers, so their crap food looks halfway appetizing. The younger brat saw a recipe for potatoes on her social media feed, and demanded that we (she) make it for Rosh Hashanah. And I will freely admit that it was good! Not great, and it definitely needs work, but it's a good start. But they looked spectacular in the video! I like Bourbon! And it is a broad category of spirit, so there are styles for pretty much everyone in every price category. But $100 for a bottle is a lot of money, and it had better be something damned special. This New $100 Bourbon Blends 3 of Kentucky's Most Coveted Whiskeys in One Bottle This makes me suspicious that it is a marketing ploy rather than an honest attempt at making something special. Why tempt fate with three popular whiskeys in one bottle? That sounds like it could turn out to be a muddy mess without any character. And speaking of booze marketing! Here's a serious question. Why would anyone pay a premium for vodka? Any flavor is distilled out of it by design. That's why you can make it with just about any vegetation that can be fermented. It's essentially an alcoholic additive for juices and liqueurs. It's a commodity. Grey Goose? It's for suckers and poseurs. CHANGE MY MIND-- Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 06, 2026 04:36 PM (vRDYl) I think this is a very good point, and one that we have discussed in the past. I do think that there are minor differences between the various starches that different companies use to make their vodka, and someone with a good palate can probably detect the difference. But I agree that it doesn't translate into quality differences! Here's a dish from my youth, and one that I am immensely pleased I no longer have to eat! Classic Stuffed Peppers just doesn't make any sense. The texture of the cooked pepper isn't particularly pleasant when left whole, and it doesn't add anything to the dish other than a sturdy vessel in which to put some boring filling. Why? Now...get off my lawn! Don't show these to CBD. Deep Fried Cat Food NyQuil Chicken Okay, you can show them to CBD but make sure any weapons are out of reach.-- Posted by: Robert at September 06, 2026 06:02 PM (ERsao) ![]() The great garlic experiment of 2025-2026 was a resounding...meh. Send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. About the Bourbon Bubble...I think it has burst, but the category is also suffering from the inflation that affected everything else (Thanks Biden!). I think the sweet spot is still $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle. The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it! Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 04:03 PM (qEb4U) 2
My cousin brought over pulled pork, had coleslaw, potato salad
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 04:05 PM (qEb4U) 3
I called em, can't make them comment
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 04:05 PM (qEb4U) 4
Because I was a bit tired of cooking after Rosh Hashanah dinner, and I knew that I would have to feed a gaggle the next morning.
... I think I used too much bread and not enough egg, and I laid the sour cream on top a bit too thick. I also might sneak some bacon into the recipe, because...well...BACON! Far be it from me to play food police, but that doesn't sound particularly kosher... Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 13, 2026 04:06 PM (anFBA) 5
I make stuffed bell peppers all the time.. The key is to pre cook the peppers until they are somewhat soft.... If you don't when the dish is done the peppers will be too crisp..
Posted by: It's me donna at September 13, 2026 04:06 PM (+gK6I) 6
CBD try using cheddar cheese instead of the sour cream. Add crumbled sausage instead of bacon.
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 04:06 PM (lJ0H4) 7
Mom made porcupine stuffed bell peppers. just add rice to your mix.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 04:07 PM (NnhvP) 8
A hundred bucks for what is essentially a blend? This makes me suspicious that it is a marketing ploy rather than an honest attempt at making something special. I concur!
Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 04:07 PM (2WIwB) 9
I am delighted that stuffed peppers were never a thing at my house. Same with stuffed cabbage. We had ground beef--a LOT! Because we raised it. But never had to have it in that fashion.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 04:08 PM (CjHsb) 10
Deep Fried Cat Food
NyQuil Chicken the former I can almost understand - it's at least half likely to have meat of some sort in it. A pound of hamburger would still be cheaper. The latter must be a troll. You cannot taste nyquil and think it would be a good marinade (or whatever) for anything. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 13, 2026 04:08 PM (anFBA) 11
Dunno CBD, the stuffed peppers kinda tickle my fancy so long as the heat isn't overwhelming the meat and cheese.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 04:10 PM (aJQbY) 12
Thx for the stuffed bell pepper recipe!
I have a huge crop of the most delicious bell peppers in my garden, starting to turn red. Perfect timing. My mom used to make them when I was a child. I could not stomach the smell. Now? I'm ready for them now... my taste buds changed somehow. Mystery. Posted by: Derak at September 13, 2026 04:10 PM (xVvka) 13
BLENDED bourbon?? So whiskey, then...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 13, 2026 04:11 PM (nbLIj) 14
Dad like to drink Georgia Moon, I think it had no redeeming qualities beyond 80 proof.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 04:12 PM (rbvCR) 15
There's a recipe for a similar dish in an ancient cookbook with the title "Recipes for Brides and Other Handicapped People." The writer was, yes, handicapped.
That's our Christmas morning breakfast, along with Christmas tree cinnamon rolls. I wonder if Stephen Three Name Cookbook Person has a copy? Posted by: Wenda at September 13, 2026 04:12 PM (WBjaU) 16
I suspect that Kentucky Boy Bourbon is actually a mash up (SWIDT) of degraded, or let's say; less than optimal barrels from the distillery.
It happens. Barrells for one reason or another age poorly. I'd assume the distillery would rather do something creative with them, than lose money. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 04:14 PM (2Cry5) 17
Today I saw Angel's Envy on sale for under $40, so maybe the bourbon glut has finally hit my local ABC at least..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 13, 2026 04:14 PM (nbLIj) 18
I'm about to make an asparagus Grueyer frittata for my friend who just had a double mastectomy.
Posted by: lin-duh at September 13, 2026 04:15 PM (VCgbV) 19
5 I make stuffed bell peppers all the time.. The key is to pre cook the peppers until they are somewhat soft.... If you don't when the dish is done the peppers will be too crisp.. Posted by: It's me donna at September 13, 2026 04:06 PM ------ I make stuffed peppers, and pre-cook the peppers. Everybody loves them. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 13, 2026 04:15 PM (mS8PE) 20
CBD try using cheddar cheese instead of the sour cream.
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 04:06 PM (lJ0H4) There was a ton of cheese in this thing! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 04:16 PM (k5CNB) 21
I tend to agree about vodka. The best I've ever had was Russian Standard Platinum. Inexpensive ($25/l, cheaper before the invasion), nearly tasteless and had no scent I could discern. I like potato distilled, but that 's a tiny distinction.
Posted by: Lemmy at September 13, 2026 04:16 PM (kyjmO) 22
>>>Here's a dish from my youth, and one that I am immensely pleased I no longer have to eat! Classic Stuffed Peppers just doesn't make any sense.
They're yummy! Like Mom made! And stuffed tomatoes, too! Mom basically stuffed them both with creole rice. Stretttccchhh that food budget. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:16 PM (odBC9) 23
of course, where Dad bought Georgia Moon, I buy Monarch Rum, it is one step above ValuRite because the distillers want repeat customers for some reason.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 04:16 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:18 PM (odBC9) 25
Hello Foodsters,
Cheesy Breakfast thing looks like it would be good as game day munching as well. Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 04:20 PM (qQfd5) 26
Didn't someone here share the Fat Files Utube of the marketing genius behind Grey Goose? His first successful op was in making Jaegermeister a thing.
https://youtu.be/0nmPEUsGNyk Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 13, 2026 04:22 PM (nbLIj) 27
I think I'm going to smoke some chicken thighs tonight. We've got some leftover rice that needs to be eaten, so chicken sounds good with that.
But, first, Bourbon. Not that silly mash up Kentucky Boy shit either. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 04:24 PM (2Cry5) 28
Diced NOT sliced! Because it makes a difference.
Rules, people! Go by the rules! What do you mean you don't have any sage? Were you not told to stock up on the last food thread?! It's like I'm talking to myself........ Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 04:25 PM (xJpuh) 29
NyQuil Chicken is only good as an Alt Country band name.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 04:25 PM (kpS4V) 30
It happens. Barrels for one reason or another age poorly. I'd assume the distillery would rather do something creative with them, than lose money.
Posted by: Martini Farmer ------ [tries to imagine the flavor of bourbon aged in the AOSHQ barrel] Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 04:26 PM (XeU6L) 31
I bet Tony Romo is getting plastered watching the game.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2026 04:26 PM (rzEIv) 32
I'm currently in a lamb shawarma coma. Leftovers galore from the restaurant.
I also have leftover Korean crockpot beef (gochujang, baby!) and a pint of mulligatawny soup I made. Good eats all week. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 04:28 PM (kpS4V) 33
I suspect that Kentucky Boy Bourbon is actually a mash up (SWIDT) of degraded, or let's say; less than optimal barrels from the distillery.
But not even necessarily lower quality, maybe just more production than they want to put out in the market under their premium brand name. Too much availability and you risk hurting your snob appeal. I'm sure they all have MBAs who spend countless hours sweating over spreadsheets to find the precise market volume to maximize profits. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 04:30 PM (vTZFs) 34
Tonight is pickle juice chicken.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2026 04:30 PM (rzEIv) 35
"That's our Christmas morning breakfast, along with Christmas tree cinnamon rolls."
Mom always made a breakfast casserole on Christmas morning. Bread. Milk, eggs, Swiss cheese, sausage and some dried mustard. I know I have the recipe somewhere but I'll be darned if I can find it. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 04:30 PM (lJ0H4) 36
I never cared for the stuffed peppers that my mother made--overcooked peppers and underseasoned meat--but I've been enjoying Once Upon a Chef's recipe for the last year. And, yes, she precooks the peppers. Seasoning is good but I think the trick may be adding cheese to the filling as well as using it for a topping.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 13, 2026 04:31 PM (H8nu1) 37
[tries to imagine the flavor of bourbon aged in the AOSHQ barrel]
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 04:26 PM (XeU6L) ---- Some hipster would detect notes of hobo, Sterno, and the shame of unclosed italics. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 04:31 PM (kpS4V) 38
I do think that there are minor differences between the various starches that different companies use to make their vodka, and someone with a good palate can probably detect the difference. But I agree that it doesn't translate into quality differences!
Concur, concur, concur. Three concurrences? This CBD fellow is turning out to be an even finer fellow that I had previously supposed. If only we could ameliorate this unfortunate peccadillo of dissing maple syrup on French Toast, he might possibly graduate into being a sterling chap! Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2026 04:32 PM (0sNs1) 39
There was a ton of cheese in this thing!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo Well it looks and sounds delish! Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 04:33 PM (lJ0H4) 40
Cat food is bad for humans. It has excess carnitine, something cats need and humans do not. We synthesize our own, so excess carnitine can cause problems for humans.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 13, 2026 04:33 PM (D7w1V) 41
Yeah, vodka's made from rye or potatoes or whatever will give you a different taste if you drink it plain. But, if you mix it with something or make cocktails, well..don't buy headache inducing garbage. Something like Tito 's is just fine. Although... I saw some "premium" vodka that was distilled 5X. So, it truly probably tasted like nothing but ethanol. I suspect you could make vodka from cat poop that would taste just fine if you distilled it 5X. Just beware of the garnish used in your Cat Poop Vodka Martini!!!! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 04:34 PM (iJfKG) 42
Three concurrences? This CBD fellow is turning out to be an even finer fellow that I had previously supposed. If only we could ameliorate this unfortunate peccadillo of dissing maple syrup on French Toast, he might possibly graduate into being a sterling chap!
Posted by: Duncanthrax Speaking of maple syrup, Chick-Fil-A has a new sandwich. Their filet topped with bacon between two maple flavored waffles. Served with maple syrup. I do need to try it before it goes away. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 04:38 PM (lJ0H4) 43
I got nothing enough for supper, unless I want to pair 1 small lamb chop with one small piece of pizza and half a baked potato.
But I do have eggs, bacon and with that half potato, home fries. I see where I'm heading, breakfast for supper. Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 04:38 PM (sl73Y) 44
AZ deplorable- I assume quills are somehow removed, right?
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 04:38 PM (Ia/+0) 45
Last night, I whipped up some BBQ'd Brisket Enchiliadas for the game. They were excellent and stupidly easy make.. I recommend that everyone make them from their BBQ'd brisket leftovers. You're welcome! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 04:40 PM (iJfKG) 46
Bowl of clam chowder and some crackers and cheese for dinner tonight. Not in the mood to cook.
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 04:40 PM (lJ0H4) 47
I see NyQuil Chicken as being like Chicken and Waffles with the NyQuil acting as the maple syrup. I think I read that's on Chik-Fil-A's Secret Menu. Give it a whirl with their Peach Shake! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 04:43 PM (iJfKG) 48
I see where I'm heading, breakfast for supper.
Posted by: From about That Time ------ A tradition at Ft. Hammer. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 04:43 PM (XeU6L) 49
Sour cream in a strata sounds...interesting. Being only myself and Little, strata opportunities don't often present themselves at Casa Sin Problemas. This is a weak excuse though, as the recipe can be portioned and frozen, so that one simply refrigerates overnight to make it ready for next morning's breakfast. Will have to scratch that itch in the coming weeks.
Most basic stratas call for milk or cream, or a combination of the two. Maybe you can get away with plain yogurt, if you're into that kind of thing. Usually ten slices of bread with six or seven eggs, (jumbo vs extra large). The most memorable strata I ever had included smoked salmon...I'm getting a little verklempt just thinking about it. Talk amongst yourselves... Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 13, 2026 04:44 PM (nbLIj) 50
Rules, people! Go by the rules! What do you mean you don't have any sage? Were you not told to stock up on the last food thread?! It's like I'm talking to myself........
Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 04:25 PM (xJpuh) I thought we were supposed to stock up on Ammo and practice our cooking fundamentals. Did I do that backwards? Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 04:45 PM (qQfd5) 51
I see where I'm heading, breakfast for supper.
Posted by: From about That Time ------ A tradition at Ft. Hammer. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. My son's favorite school cafeteria lunch. Breakfast for lunch. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 04:45 PM (lJ0H4) 52
"I went to a restaurant that serves 'breakfast at any time'. So I ordered French toast during the Renaissance." -- Steven Wright
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 04:45 PM (kpS4V) 53
That breakfast dish looks yummy! I usually make something similar for Christmas morning. Easy and tasty and is enjoyed by all.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2026 04:46 PM (yEz+x) 54
All Hail Eris, I saw yesterday on the garden thread that you are interested in a fig tree in a pot, and I would like to offer unsolicited advice, please.
I have had excellent luck with the smallest size fig trees from Logees, specifically Chicago Hardy. They fruited the first season I had them, which is way fun. They are grafted so they stay smaller and fruit earlier. But I'm learning that figs do not like overhead watering and they eventually died on me. (My current Beer's Black was heavily discounted at Lowe's due to overhead watering damage, but it's looking much better now so I think it will be okay.) Also, I have heard that Brown Turkey is disappointing even though it is among the hardiest figs. I guess it doesn't taste as good as other varieties. Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at September 13, 2026 04:46 PM (OlzlW) 55
AZ deplorable- I assume quills are somehow removed, right?
Posted by: Skip The rice were the splines. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 04:47 PM (NnhvP) 56
Something like Tito's is just fine.
**** Tito's is harsh and will come through if you're making something light flavored. Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 04:47 PM (zRghv) 57
If only we could ameliorate this unfortunate peccadillo of dissing maple syrup on French Toast, he might possibly graduate into being a sterling chap!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2026 04:32 PM (0sNs1) Dropped on his head as a child and his face landed in some maple syrup on the floor, obviously. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 04:49 PM (6ydKt) 58
We usually have breakfast for dinner once a month.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2026 04:50 PM (rzEIv) 59
The NyQuil chicken guy also made Fish Oil Pills Steak so he's definitely a trolling madman.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 04:50 PM (6ydKt) 60
I spent the last 2 days processing food. Well fruits and veggies.
I have 5 HUGE bowls of salads - Chinese Cabbage, green peppers, onions and tomatoes. I finished off the 25lbs of Roma tomatoes but my friends are away and told me to collect stuff from their garden and I have a ton more tomatoes, which is great. Raw, nothing fancy. I just cut up a HUGE 18 pound watermelon so I'll be having that over the next three days or so. It's nearing the end of the season so what the heck. And I cut up some of the carrots - 10 pounds and some of the 20 pounds of beets I have in the basement. Those are my snacks for the next several weeks. I'm actually going to be cooking bacon later today. Kind of the first time. Mom handled cooking. But I never needed much. I'm fine with fruits, veggies, nuts, yogurt, canned sardines, boiled chicken, cereal etc. I'm apparently pretty easy to feed. Which is fine. I'm happy with it. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 105 years old! Puppy at heart! at September 13, 2026 04:52 PM (Sco7b) 61
Fast Facts: Kentucky Boy
ABV: 50% Maturation: Kentucky Boy is a bespoke bourbon blend developed by Elizabeth McCall and Caleb Trigo. It marries Woodford Reserve Double Oaked, Old Forester Birthday Bourbon, and King of Kentucky. It’s a non-age-stated whiskey, and the exact proportions of the blend remain undisclosed. ... Brand tasting notes for Kentucky Boy highlight a nose rich in chocolate, toasted hazelnut, Luxardo cherry, nutmeg, and fresh-baked apple pie. The palate opens with “crisp ginger snap cookie and stewed apples,” then moves to sweet charred oak and baking spices. A long, sweet finish ends with dark cherries, golden raisins, and hickory smoke. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 04:53 PM (6ydKt) 62
We off and on have breakfast for dinner. Eggs, either sausage or bacon, hash browns or biscuits and gravy.
Occasionally all of the above. Morning shits are epic. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 04:55 PM (2Cry5) 63
>>Mom always made a breakfast casserole on Christmas morning. Bread. Milk, eggs, Swiss cheese, sausage and some dried mustard. I know I have the recipe somewhere but I'll be darned if I can find it.
My sister makes a similar one. It's delicious. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 04:55 PM (viF8m) 64
Is that bourbon or dessert?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 04:56 PM (6ydKt) Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 04:57 PM (MWfyi) Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 04:57 PM (uozx9) 67
As a frequent consumer of vodka, to me the quality difference is not one of flavor, but of smoothness. I can easily tell the difference from Skol, to Titos, to Grey Goose, to Ciroc. Particularly in a Martini.
And I used to precook my peppers for stuffed peppers, but then I realized it was the dirty rice I really wanted, and stopped bothering with the peppers. Posted by: Baron Munchausen at September 13, 2026 04:58 PM (C1NyB) 68
It's booze not a dang salad.
Anyone who writes like that is getting paid for it one way or another. Which is not necessarily a slam, just something to keep in mind. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 04:59 PM (vTZFs) 69
Nothing wrong with breakfast for dinner.
Ham and eggs, omelettes and hash browns, eggs, sausage and Belgian waffles, French toast, English Muffins. American breakfast has a a lot to offer. Especially if you don't like vegetables. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 04:59 PM (6ydKt) 70
CBD, I have to say, that the RMBS Mom makes fantastic stuffed peppers and tomatoes. Made a batch just the other day, in fact, with the garden tomatoes.
But I'm with you on the current sad state of collar stays. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 05:00 PM (84gkw) 71
Emmie, thanks for the info. I'm writing this down in my garden journal.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 05:00 PM (kpS4V) 72
I like stuffed peppers, but I prefer stuffed zucchini. We had it last night.
Posted by: jix at September 13, 2026 05:01 PM (y687V) 73
If I had some stuffed peppers right now I would eat them, precooked peppers or not. The best ones I ever had were at a little place that's not there anymore. You need some fried cornbread to go with them.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:01 PM (MWfyi) 74
All Hail Eris, hope it turns out to be helpful.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at September 13, 2026 05:02 PM (OlzlW) 75
I like stuffed peppers, but I prefer stuffed zucchini. We had it last night.
Posted by: jix at September 13, 2026 05:01 PM Stuffed zucchini is also a thing. Eggplants, too. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 05:03 PM (84gkw) 76
Stateless, I must admit some jealousy of the food haul. Not enough to trade countries, but...
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 05:04 PM (aJQbY) 77
I've never had any bourbon that tasted like chocolate. Possibly because I never expected it to taste like chocolate, much less golden raisins.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:04 PM (MWfyi) 78
>>If only we could ameliorate this unfortunate peccadillo of dissing maple syrup on French Toast, he might possibly graduate into being a sterling chap!
When my folks had their farm in Vermont they had an agreement with a local farmer to allow him to tap their maples in exchange for some of his final product. Fall Sunday mornings my dad would make waffles with sausage from a local farmer and of course maple syrup everywhere. I've already been to heaven. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:04 PM (viF8m) 79
Blending bourbon is how you ruin bourbon. Seagrams did this already when they owned Four Roses. The fuckers.
Keep it neat, keep it safe. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 05:05 PM (xcxpd) 80
To be honest I don't leave bourbon in my mouth long enough to savor the flavor.
I've had some hat were pretty smooth that I could slow down with but generally it's a down the hatch kinda thing for me. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:06 PM (6ydKt) 81
Food adjacent- I saw a guy yesterday eating a hamburger as his Tesla Y L(?) drove him (I assume) on the tollway yesterday. Kinda neat. I more or less assume all cars/trucks will have that ability in 5 years or less. You'll even be able to eat your French Toast with Maple Syrup with knife and fork as you speed along the highways and byways of America. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 05:07 PM (iJfKG) 82
You people give CBD a hard time about maple syrup, but I prefer to think he is misguided, like people who prefer Ginger and 9mm.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:07 PM (MWfyi) 83
>>But they looked spectacular in the video!
Heh, yeah, except for those obvious trailer trash "recipes" where they get out a big aluminum pan and make a casserole by layering things like chicken nuggets, Velveeta, onion rings, salsa, and then corn flakes + 2 sticks of butter! *I made that up, but you know those ghastly reels. . . Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 05:07 PM (rOKnE) 84
I agree about your vodka comment with one exception. I recently discovered Kástra Elión Greek vodka with olives. Ice cold with smoked salmon is divine.
Posted by: jix at September 13, 2026 05:08 PM (y687V) 85
I can tell the difference between top shelf vodka and...not. But I can't tell mid-tier apart from cheap.
A really good vodka has a subtle flavor and a viscosity to it, not to say oiliness. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 05:08 PM (xcxpd) 86
82 You people give CBD a hard time about maple syrup, but I prefer to think he is misguided, like people who prefer Ginger and 9mm.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:07 PM (MWfyi) Hey! I resemble that remark.... I just shoot 9mm faster. If I have to run a Dicken drill, my .45 groups and times are way worse than with any of my 9mm hole punchers. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 05:10 PM (xcxpd) 87
My mom, before she passed, was making eggplant fries for several years.
Cut them like french fries and fry them up in a skillet. They'd were rather good, if you like the taste of eggplant, that is. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:10 PM (6ydKt) 88
as for Ginger....rowr. Damn fine body on that girl. Damn fine.
Personality, I'm a Mary Ann man. But for messing up some sheets, Ginger any day. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 05:11 PM (xcxpd) 89
56 Something like Tito's is just fine.
**** Tito's is harsh and will come through if you're making something light flavored. Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 04:47 PM (zRghv) I use Tito's for spaghetti alla vodka for just that reason. Posted by: jix at September 13, 2026 05:11 PM (y687V) 90
Fall Sunday mornings my dad would make waffles with sausage from a local farmer and of course maple syrup everywhere. I've already been to heaven.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:04 PM (viF8m) Fresh is always better, isn't it? Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:11 PM (6ydKt) 91
"A really good vodka has a subtle flavor and a viscosity to it, not to say oiliness.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards" Nyet. Some of best wodka come from aircraft. Posted by: A Russian Airman at September 13, 2026 05:11 PM (MWfyi) 92
I'm going through a waffle phase. This morning I used a buttermilk scratch recipe. Much superior to the Krusteaz add milk and egg boxed mix.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:12 PM (RIvkX) 93
Got me a rocky patel lb1 and a casa dragones añejo.
.... Maybe that's more appropriate for the gun thread, not the food Thread..... Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:12 PM (Ot/FD) 94
91 "A really good vodka has a subtle flavor and a viscosity to it, not to say oiliness.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards" Nyet. Some of best wodka come from aircraft. Posted by: A Russian Airman at September 13, 2026 05:11 PM (MWfyi) lol I almost feel bad for Russians... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 05:12 PM (xcxpd) 95
>>Nothing wrong with breakfast for dinner.
. . . or dinner for breakfast! With a lot of family in town for the funeral, we had 'em all over one night for dinner. I got some prepared quiches and greek salads at Wholefoods, baked/sliced chicken breasts, and an assortment of pies. This worked well as leftovers for the next few days - quiche and/or pie for breakfast! Greek salad w/chicken for dinner. Breakfast pie is usually only a Thanksgiving leftover treat, but it really worked for this sad time as well. Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 05:13 PM (rOKnE) 96
Sure, MAE. Save it for the gun thread.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:13 PM (MWfyi) Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:13 PM (Ot/FD) 98
chicken nuggets, Velveeta, onion rings, salsa, and then corn flakes + 2 sticks of butter!
--- That might not be too bad, actually. Saturate the corn flakes with the butter, along with garlic/salt/onion/etc, and brown at the very end under the boiler, for a little cruncy garlicky goodness on top. Making this now.... Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 05:14 PM (uozx9) 99
76 Stateless, I must admit some jealousy of the food haul. Not enough to trade countries, but...
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 05:04 PM (aJQbY I'm in a farming community and it's August, September and I love fruits and veggies and a good deal. I did go to Costco in my part of Canada and didn't notice any price increases but my diets pretty standard. So I don't know how the trade war is affecting us yet. By the way, you're all in a trade war with Canada. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 13, 2026 05:14 PM (Sco7b) 100
Much superior to the Krusteaz add milk and egg boxed mix.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:12 PM (RIvkX) When my mom got on a waffle kick about twenty years ago and wanted to make them once a week that's the brand she used. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:15 PM (6ydKt) 101
I sure served some meatballs.
Posted by: Deshaun Watson at September 13, 2026 05:15 PM (88C+u) 102
Swedish meatballs for dinner tonight. By the next food thread, god only knows how many nasty Icelandic foods I’ll have eaten. I’ll eat anything but my mom and SiL are very unadventurous eaters.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:15 PM (FBc7c) Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 05:15 PM (rOKnE) 104
>>Fresh is always better, isn't it?
Indescribably better. Honestly, it helps to eat maple syrup when you are sitting in the mountains. Also great, baked brie with maple syrup and pecans. I'm gonna need a moment. I feel a Homer coming on. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:16 PM (viF8m) 105
There was a rick house (where Bourbon barrels are aged) that suffered a structural failure a couple years ago. IOW, it collapsed. Well, part of it did. These rick houses are 3, 4, sometimes 5 stories.
Millions of gallons of aging Bourbon flowed into a nearby stream. It was considered a hazmat scene. But there are rumors of some bootleg Bourbon that was "harvested" from that spill. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:16 PM (2Cry5) 106
I've never had a problem driving myself down the freeway as i eat a cheeseburger and fries.
And i used to drive stick, too Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:16 PM (Ot/FD) 107
I've never had any bourbon that tasted like chocolate. Possibly because I never expected it to taste like chocolate, much less golden raisins. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:04 PM (MWfyi) If you'd like to try a whiskey with definite chocolate/cocao tones in its taste. Try Balcones Texas Rye Cask Strength. You can also use it to make a sort of dessert manhattan with a shake of Cherry Bitters. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 05:17 PM (iJfKG) 108
Breakfast pie is usually only a Thanksgiving leftover treat, but it really worked for this sad time as well.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 05:13 PM (rOKnE) I like a good quiche, especially the savory, meaty, cheesesy kind. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:17 PM (6ydKt) 109
You'll even be able to eat your French Toast with Maple Syrup with knife and fork as you speed along the highways and byways of America.
We have forfeited any claim to be a serious nation and will deserve whatever we eventually get. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 05:17 PM (vTZFs) 110
Fast Facts: Kentucky Boy
It marries Woodford Reserve Double Oaked, Old Forester Birthday Bourbon, and King of Kentucky. It’s a non-age-stated whiskey, and the exact proportions of the blend remain undisclosed. Posted by: SpeakingOf WRDO: $50/bottle OFBB: several hundred/bottle KoK: more than OFBB So I'd say the "exact proportions" will line up with a Churchill martini; pour the gin (Woodford) while looking longingly at the vermouth (OFBB & KoK). Posted by: mikeski at September 13, 2026 05:19 PM (VHUov) 111
We have forfeited any claim to be a serious nation and will deserve whatever we eventually get.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 05:17 PM (vTZFs) And let's not even get into TikTok. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:19 PM (6ydKt) 112
Millions of gallons of aging Bourbon flowed into a nearby stream. It was considered a hazmat scene.
Posted by: Martini Farmer The rick house, just letting it all hang out. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 13, 2026 05:20 PM (XvL8K) 113
‘ This makes me suspicious that it is a marketing ploy rather than an honest attempt at making something special.’
Total marketing gimmick, as sadly much of modern whisky marketing is. A lot of whisky is blended, so this might be pretty good, but blending is for the lower market and generally dulls the flavor. I shudder to think of what my 3 fav single-malts all mixed together would taste like. No way would he be better than any one of the three by itself. Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:21 PM (FBc7c) 114
A waffle maker in a Tesla is doable. There has to be coffee too. I'm not sure about the bacon.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:21 PM (MWfyi) 115
The rick house, just letting it all hang out.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 13, 2026 05:20 PM (XvL8K) She mighty mighty. Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:21 PM (Ot/FD) 116
I can definitely tell the differences in vodka... Cheap stuff has a harsh taste... Costco has a good French vodka for 23 dollars for the big one... Of course we are primarily vodka/Gin drinkers.. No Bourbon or whiskey... Occasional Brandy
Posted by: San Francisco/Los Angeles at September 13, 2026 05:22 PM (+gK6I) 117
> I've never had a problem driving myself down the freeway as i eat a cheeseburger and fries.
And i used to drive stick, too Posted by: Warai-otoko ------------- Left out smoking a joint and cradling a beer between your legs. Not that I'd know anything about that. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (2Cry5) 118
>>Millions of gallons of aging Bourbon flowed into a nearby stream. It was considered a hazmat scene.
Cocaine Bear vs. Bourbon Bobcat? Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (rOKnE) 119
Mythbusters did a whole thing about "can cheap vodka be made better by carbon filtering." Not being a vodka drinker, I don't remember the outcome.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (vTZFs) 120
Sounds like what my kids used to do at the drink fountain and mix Coke, Mountain Dew, and Fanta Orange.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (MWfyi) 121
Suspected best vodka would be like better Scotch but never had expensive vodka
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 05:24 PM (Ia/+0) 122
You'll even be able to eat your French Toast with Maple Syrup with knife and fork as you speed along the highways and byways of America.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 05:07 PM (iJfKG) I see you've never tried Burger King's French Toast Sticks which come with a handy dandy container of maple syrup you just dip the sticks in and you just roll along, no muss, no fuss. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:24 PM (6ydKt) 123
Something like Tito's is just fine.
**** Tito's is harsh and will come through if you're making something light flavored. Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 04:47 PM (zRghv) I buy the cheapest bottom-shelf vodka I can find. Since my main use for is to mix Caesars, the flavor of the vodka is lost in the mix. Maybe a vodka tonic, or vodka and Coke if the rum has gone dry. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:24 PM (1z8ji) 124
Left out smoking a joint and cradling a beer between your legs.
Not that I'd know anything about that. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (2Cry5) Coming home from a long shift with a J and a road soda... Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:25 PM (Ot/FD) 125
Left out smoking a joint and cradling a beer between your legs.
Not that I'd know anything about that. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (2Cry5) They made pipes and one-hitters for a reason, guys. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:25 PM (6ydKt) 126
Something like Tito's is just fine.
**** Tito's is harsh and will come through if you're making something light flavored. Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 04:47 PM (zRghv) I use Tito's for spaghetti alla vodka for just that reason. Posted by: jix at September 13, 2026 05:11 PM (y687V) Well, that's the thing. Most vodka drinkers don't like the taste of alcohol. If they could, they would drink distilled water. As a general rule I mix cocktails and one thing I like is a base alcohol that can stand up to the cocktails making process and make it's presence known. That's why I have no use for "smooth" tequilas, and would rather have a full-flavor "harsh" tequila that won't wilt in a margarita. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 05:26 PM (iJfKG) 127
120 Sounds like what my kids used to do at the drink fountain and mix Coke, Mountain Dew, and Fanta Orange.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (MWfyi) Yea, it was a thing at the multi-flavor fountains. Fill it up with everything on tap. The drink is called a 'Suicide'. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:27 PM (6ydKt) 128
>>"can cheap vodka be made better by carbon filtering."
How about Herkimer diamonds? Launched in 2008, our original Crystal Head Vodka is crafted from locally sourced Canadian corn. It is distilled four times into a neutral grain spirit and blended with pristine water from Newfoundland, Canada. The vodka is filtered seven times, of which three are through layers of semi-precious crystals known as Herkimer diamonds. . . *Herkimer Quartz Diamond is a type of Quartz found in Herkimer, New York. Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 05:27 PM (rOKnE) Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:27 PM (RIvkX) 130
Stuffed zucchini is also a thing. Eggplants, too.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 05:03 PM (84gkw) My mother used to make stuffed vegetable marrow. That is a long, pale bland-tasting squash that takes on the flavor of whatever it is stuffed with. It was great. I can't remember having ever seen it in stores lately. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:28 PM (1z8ji) 131
Svedka is a cheap but good vodka for mixed drinks. It’s got a ‘clean’ taste that is very similar to the much more expensive Grey Goose.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:28 PM (FBc7c) 132
"No I don't, Officer."
/said while expelling zero breath Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:29 PM (RIvkX) 133
Try Balcones Texas Rye Cask Strength.
I had their cask strength single malt and it was too hot for me. I had to add so much water that it hurt the taste. I'll go back to Texas 1 for my next Balcones. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 05:29 PM (vTZFs) 134
129 I drank vodka in Russia because that's all there was.
Vodka is an ingredient, not a drink. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:27 PM (RIvkX) —— The Russians just wanna get drunk. They’d drink battery acid if that got them hammered faster than vodka. Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:30 PM (FBc7c) 135
119 Mythbusters did a whole thing about "can cheap vodka be made better by carbon filtering." Not being a vodka drinker, I don't remember the outcome.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 05:23 PM (vTZFs) I remember that episode. If I recall correctly it will improve the lower quality brands but it will never turn it into a top shelf brand. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 13, 2026 05:30 PM (Sco7b) 136
We've been sticking to new Amsterdam for our daily driver vodka. No complaints.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:30 PM (Ot/FD) 137
Bunch of degenerate drug addicts hanging out here and you all let ace slander me and never had my back.
Ok. Pepperidge Farm isn't the only one that remembers. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:31 PM (viF8m) 138
When it's 40 below zero outside for five months, a little alcohol almost becomes a necessity, I''d imagine.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 05:31 PM (6ydKt) 139
It's ok Jackstraw we know you didn't inhale.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 05:32 PM (MWfyi) 140
The last couple weeks, we made a maple smoked pastrami and pork butt burnt ends. I need to practice a bit more on the burnt ends, they were good, but not quite tender yet.
We make vanilla extracts and limoncello, and often use vodka as the base. We like the Smirnoff brand. It’s decent quality, readily available in a variety of sizes, and reasonably priced. It also makes a decent Russian cocktail of various types. I like the nutty Russian. It’s a White Russian with a couple ounces of a nut liqueur, like Frangelico or Amaretto. Posted by: Advo at September 13, 2026 05:32 PM (jO4mz) 141
I remember that episode. If I recall correctly it will improve the lower quality brands but it will never turn it into a top shelf brand.
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 13, 2026 05:30 PM (Sco7b) ==== Much like social contagion among youth. The bad ones do not become better. The good ones go bad instead. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:33 PM (RIvkX) 142
I splurged on a bottle of Red Breast 18 for Labor Day. I’m not generally a fan of Irish whisky, but hell yea RB18 is good. Very flavorful and complex.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:33 PM (FBc7c) Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:33 PM (Ot/FD) 144
The vodka is filtered seven times, of which three are through layers of semi-precious crystals known as Herkimer diamonds. . .
*Herkimer Quartz Diamond is a type of Quartz found in Herkimer, New York. Again, not a vodka drinker but that rings all my BS alarms. Perhaps AOP can inform us on the porosity of quartz but my hunch is "just about nil." Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 05:34 PM (vTZFs) 145
The vodka is filtered seven times, of which three are through layers of semi-precious crystals known as Herkimer diamonds. . .
*Herkimer Quartz Diamond is a type of Quartz found in Herkimer, New York. Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 05:27 PM (rOKnE) So, a sand filter. As found in many water treatment plants. Hype. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:34 PM (1z8ji) 146
"No I don't, Officer."
/said while expelling zero breath Posted by: San Franpsycho __________ A buddy got out of a DUI by volunteering for a blood test, but then refusing to sign the hospital's consent form for the blood draw (which was not a refusal to take the test). All of that took considerable time (transport to the hospital/wrangling over the consent terms), and by the time they then got a breath test, he passed. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 13, 2026 05:34 PM (XvL8K) Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:34 PM (2Cry5) 148
By the way, you're all in a trade war with Canada.
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 13, 2026 05:14 PM (Sco7b) I wonder who will flinch first? The Canadians, the Iranians, the US or the French? Including the French keeps it on topic for the food thread. Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 05:35 PM (qQfd5) 149
Bunch of degenerate drug addicts hanging out here and you all let ace slander me and never had my back.
Ok. Pepperidge Farm isn't the only one that remembers. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:31 PM (viF8m) ====== Counting on short-term memory loss. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:35 PM (RIvkX) 150
I could taste the alchohol in the screwdriver I had once. I dislike the taste, although not enough to refuse to finish it. I have just never felt the attraction. I'd rather deal with my frustrations other ways.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 05:35 PM (aJQbY) 151
Look up Betty Crocker Deep Dish Taco Squares. My family loves this dish, and the recipe is very flexible. I have made it with ground beef, steak and chicken. I have made it Mexican style with taco seasoning, and Italian style with Italian seasonings.
It is easy to make and everybody in my family loves it. Posted by: Eric at September 13, 2026 05:35 PM (6VHHP) 152
So, a sand filter. As found in many water treatment plants.
Hype. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:34 PM (1z8ji) Triple filtering through the same media doesn't buy you a whole heck of a lot except the ability to say "it's triple filtered!" Especially after it's already been distilled. (Wash yo tanks, bro.) Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:36 PM (Ot/FD) 153
These fancy-schmancy bourbon marketing moves leave me cold. I like the basic Old Forester just fine. It's a good value at 30 bucks at our state controlled booze emporia, which is a good value. My other two favorites, Bowman Brothers and Wild Turkey 101, are about the same price. I've tried more expensive bourbons and they just aren't better enough to deserve the extra bucks.
I do have a confession. I have come to prefer rye to bourbon. Pikesville 110 proof is my favorite and worth the fifty dollar price. Wild Turkey 101 rye and Sazarac 6 year rye are tasty and almost half the price. Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 05:37 PM (yTvNw) 154
147 "Craft" Vodka seems.... oxymoronic.
Seriously. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:34 PM (2Cry5) Kraft vodka is just cheesy. Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:37 PM (Ot/FD) 155
The one time I really should have been arrested by a state trooper for possession I talked my out of it but he made me dump the stash. That was a sad day on the New Jersey Turnpike.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:38 PM (RIvkX) 156
I recommend that everyone make them from their BBQ'd brisket leftovers.
You're welcome! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 04:40 PM This assumes those exist. Brisket, moar brisket, brisket sandwiches, brisket, brisket sandwiches. What are these leftovers of which you speak? Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2026 05:38 PM (0sNs1) 157
I splurged on a bottle of Red Breast 18 for Labor Day. I’m not generally a fan of Irish whisky, but hell yea RB18 is good. Very flavorful and complex.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:33 PM (FBc7c) Yes, yes, yes. On the Red Breast 18 But, IMHO the Red Breast Cask Strength 12 is even better. Also Blue Spot is pure delight. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 05:38 PM (iJfKG) 158
147 "Craft" Vodka seems.... oxymoronic.
Seriously. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:34 PM (2Cry5) —— Marketing gimmick. But so is so much of everything today. I’m 100% convinced that one of the top ‘influencer’ clowns could promote a new brand of vodka from fermented human urine and idiots would line up to buy it. Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:39 PM (FBc7c) 159
Well, late lunch break is over. Back to the salt mines. My dune buggy body tub is now securely bolted to the floor pan, with all the bolts moderately tightened. It will come off again for paint, but the task at hand is to make all the other parts fit. Fuel tank, steering column, lights, windshield, etc.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:40 PM (1z8ji) 160
vodka from fermented human urine and idiots would line up to buy it.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:39 PM (FBc7c) Didn't Isaac Newton do that or something? Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:40 PM (Ot/FD) 161
Home from teaching and my own work out. I am making birria chicken enchiladas this evening.
Posted by: Piper at September 13, 2026 05:41 PM (ZdaMQ) 162
I buy the cheapest bottom-shelf vodka I can find. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:24 PM
What, Valu-Rite's too good for you ????? Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2026 05:42 PM (0sNs1) 163
Betty Crocker Deep Dish Taco Squares
===== Not allowed to have Bisquick the Krusteaz was a big scene. Maybe polenta on the bottom. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:42 PM (RIvkX) 164
Home from teaching and my own work out. I am making birria chicken enchiladas this evening. Posted by: Piper at September 13, 2026 05:41 PM (ZdaMQ) That sounds good. Recipe, por favor! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 05:42 PM (iJfKG) 165
So, a sand filter. As found in many water treatment plants.
Don't sand filters (and I'm relying on some limited aquarium hobby experience here) work by exposing nitrogenous compounds to the bacteria living on the sand's high surface area? Nothing in that process sounds remotely applicable to alcoholic beverage production. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 05:43 PM (vTZFs) 166
My dune buggy body tub is now securely bolted to the floor pan, with all the bolts moderately tightened. It will come off again for paint, but the task at hand is to make all the other parts fit. Fuel tank, steering column, lights, windshield, etc.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:40 PM (1z8ji) ===== So its a time machine? Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:43 PM (RIvkX) 167
I'm doing a stuffed chicken in an enameled dutch oven. Roasted sweet potatoes. Broccoli in some form or another, haven't decided.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:43 PM (Ot/FD) 168
vodka from fermented human urine and idiots would line up to buy it.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:39 PM Make it cow urine, I'm down for a bottle. Posted by: zombie Mahatma G. at September 13, 2026 05:43 PM (0sNs1) 169
So its a time machine?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 05:43 PM All the best bloggers have them. Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2026 05:45 PM (0sNs1) 170
>>Well, late lunch break is over. Back to the salt mines. My dune buggy body tub is now securely bolted to the floor pan, with all the bolts moderately tightened. It will come off again for paint, but the task at hand is to make all the other parts fit. Fuel tank, steering column, lights, windshield, etc.
You gotta post some pics. A good buddy of mine in high school had a dune buggy. I loved that thing. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:45 PM (viF8m) 171
I do have some tomatoes that split on the vine, was thinking of fermenting the seeds for storage. Not exactly culinary. Culinary adjacent, i guess.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:45 PM (Ot/FD) 172
By the way, you're all in a trade war with Canada.
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 13, 2026 05:14 PM (Sco7b) I wonder who will flinch first? The Canadians, the Iranians, the US or the French? Including the French keeps it on topic for the food thread. Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 05:35 PM (qQfd5) ======== Canadians want back to the good ol' grifting days, which they aren't going to get again. Ever. First, they picked the PRC Devil, allowing PRC police monitoring stations on Canadian soil. It was recently discovered that Chy-na gave the Persians satellite targeting data for the ballistic missile strike in Jordan that killed three Americans. So, Canada's status? Speed bump. The Iranians are launching their pre-midterm elections doom and gloom offensive. Like a Billy Mays commercial - everything must go! No gas left in the tank when the elections are over. Bigger speed bump. Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 05:47 PM (rj6Yv) 173
> Home from teaching and my own work out. I am making birria chicken enchiladas this evening.
Posted by: Piper ------------ Birria tacos rule. Just sayin'. You can do more shots of Tequila with them. (takes more time between batches) Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:47 PM (2Cry5) Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 05:48 PM (zRghv) 175
I do have a confession. I have come to prefer rye to bourbon. Pikesville 110 proof is my favorite and worth the fifty dollar price. Wild Turkey 101 rye and Sazarac 6 year rye are tasty and almost half the price.
Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 05:37 PM (yTvNw) Same. Wild Turkey 101 rye is my standard. Seems my kidneys aren't functioning as well as they used to, so I've quit drinking, though. This thread is really making me want a little glass. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 05:48 PM (CjHsb) 176
That was pretty. Hell of a throw.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:48 PM (viF8m) 177
You can do more shots of Tequila with them. (takes more time between batches)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 05:47 PM (2Cry5) I hate tequila.. Husband is a fan.. Only the "good" ones which to me in tequila doesn't exist Posted by: San Francisco/Los Angeles at September 13, 2026 05:49 PM (+gK6I) Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:50 PM (viF8m) 179
Recently refound a partial bottle of vodka from making vanilla a year ago. Think should save it for those winter snow shoveling
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 05:51 PM (Ia/+0) 180
Glazed eyes, slack jaw, drooling?
And the inaudible moaning. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 05:50 PM The Paolo, he has, how you say, seen this many times. He tries to slip out quietly. Posted by: Paolo at September 13, 2026 05:52 PM (0sNs1) 181
I love stuffed peppers. The better way to make them is not to parboil the peppers. Just cut the tops off, set them in a deep baking dish, fill with what you like (mine usually are cooked ground beef and onions, sometimes other veggies if they are on hand such as mushrooms, flavor with salt and pepper and the herbs and spices you like, and we add tomato sauce. No rice. Cover tightly and bake at 350 around 45 minutes, then uncover and add a bunch of cheese and pop bake into the oven until it melts.
The peppers are perfectly tender but not at all mushy. And it's a hearty meal. Posted by: bluebell at September 13, 2026 05:52 PM (ek8iC) 182
I thought I would substitute cake flour for all-purpose to make chocolate crepes today.
They came out beautifully thin and chocolatey with the consistency of one of the round rubber sink stoppers. Fail. I'll let them get stale and use them for clay pigeons. Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 05:52 PM (E0Et6) 183
Broccoli in some form or another, haven't decided.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:43 PM (Ot/FD) --------- Since you already have the oven going, just roast it! Make it easy on yourself. Posted by: bluebell at September 13, 2026 05:54 PM (ek8iC) 184
LOL, Ben Had. Way to let nothing go to waste!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 05:54 PM (CjHsb) 185
Apparently not everyone wants to hold Omar accountable for her many fraudulent activities. Note: there are three republicans and three democrats on this committee.
Greg @mrrockywater 5h The Office of Congressional Conduct voted 5 to 1 to suspend the investigation into Ilhan Omar's financial discloser's stating her net value had increased by $6 to $30 million dollars. Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 13, 2026 05:54 PM (3ImbR) 186
171 I do have some tomatoes that split on the vine, was thinking of fermenting the seeds for storage. Not exactly culinary. Culinary adjacent, i guess.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 05:45 PM (Ot/FD) Several of my friends tomatoes that I have here are like that. I've been eating them anyways. Cut them up, salt and they've been fine. But apparently my friends freezes the tomatoes and turns them into paste or something. I forget what. Something edible for her family. It's just me so I'm MUCH less picky... Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 105 years old! Puppy at heart! at September 13, 2026 05:55 PM (Sco7b) 187
81 I love stuffed peppers. The better way to make them is not to parboil the peppers. Just cut the tops off, set them in a deep baking dish, fill with what you like (mine usually are cooked ground beef and onions, sometimes other veggies if they are on hand such as mushrooms, flavor with salt and pepper and the herbs and spices you like, and we add tomato sauce. No rice. Cover tightly and bake at 350 around 45 minutes, then uncover and add a bunch of cheese and pop bake into the oven until it melts.
The peppers are perfectly tender but not at all mushy. And it's a hearty meal. Posted by: bluebell at September 13, 2026 05:52 PM (ek8iC) —- That’s old school. This exact recipe was on every Italian restaurant menu when I was a kid. My g-mom used to make it too, albeit with rice. I’ve not seen it on a menu in decades. Posted by: Elric the Blade at September 13, 2026 05:56 PM (FBc7c) 188
I thought I would substitute cake flour for all-purpose to make chocolate crepes today.
They came out beautifully thin and chocolatey with the consistency of one of the round rubber sink stoppers. Fail. I'll let them get stale and use them for clay pigeons. Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 05:52 PM Not enough gluten in the flour. Touch the all-purpose flour, and say "You're it!" Gluten tag! Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2026 05:56 PM (0sNs1) 189
Regarding stuffed peppers, I brush the interior of the pepper with a bit of oil, stuff, and bake. The oil cooks the pepper while imparting extra richness to the stuffing. Frozen cod cakes, thawed, makes great stuffed red peppers, BTW...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 13, 2026 05:56 PM (nbLIj) 190
I hate tequila.. Husband is a fan.. Only the "good" ones which to me in tequila doesn't exist
Posted by: San Francisco/Los Angeles at September 13, 2026 05:49 PM (+gK6I) ==== "Man, we were doing shots for a mezcal tasting, and the next thing I know, everybody was laid out on the back lawn with empty cups on their chests." Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 05:57 PM (rj6Yv) 191
My mother used to make stuffed vegetable marrow. That is a long, pale bland-tasting squash that takes on the flavor of whatever it is stuffed with. It was great. I can't remember having ever seen it in stores lately.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 05:28 PM (1z8ji) -------- I always wondered what vegetable marrows were, because that's what Hercule Poirot said he would grow when he finally retired to the country. I looked it up and never quite figured it out I assumed it was a limey word for pumpkin. Posted by: bluebell at September 13, 2026 05:58 PM (ek8iC) 192
everybody was laid out on the back lawn with empty cups on their chests."
Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 05:57 PM Except me. My cups are not empty. Posted by: Sydney S. at September 13, 2026 05:59 PM (0sNs1) 193
175 ... "Same. Wild Turkey 101 rye is my standard.
Seems my kidneys aren't functioning as well as they used to, so I've quit drinking, though. This thread is really making me want a little glass." DMLW, I have some kidney troubles as well. Since my typical amount of booze is less than an ounce, usually sipped neat over a few hours, it hasn't been a problem. I just enjoy the taste. Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 05:59 PM (yTvNw) 194
AS a former bar manager i have found that the price of the booze neither increases the quality of drunkeness nor the relief of the urine
it's impossible to pee on your own shoes with style Posted by: what the cat drug in at September 13, 2026 05:59 PM (jrgJz) 195
Recipe, por favor! Posted by: naturalfake at September I make the filling following her recipe pretty closely: https://tinyurl.com/bdzhy8n7 I use corn tortillas, put the filling in, roll them up, put them in an oiled baking dish seam side down, cover with some of the sauce from cooking the chicken, cover the dish with foil, bake about 15-20 minutes, and then sprinkle cotija. I serve it with lime and avocado. You can also use Oaxaca if you want it a little cheesier. Posted by: Piper at September 13, 2026 05:59 PM (ZdaMQ) 196
everybody was laid out on the back lawn with empty cups on their chests."
Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 05:57 PM Except me. My cups are not empty. Posted by: Sydney S. at September 13, 2026 05:59 PM (0sNs1) They're overflowing!!! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 06:00 PM (iJfKG) 197
>>Man, we were doing shots for a mezcal tasting, and the next thing I know, everybody was laid out on the back lawn with empty cups on their chests."
1 tequila 2 tequila 3 tequila floor Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 06:01 PM (viF8m) 198
I love stuffed peppers. The better way to make them is...
Sounds yummy. I'll have to try it the next time my wife is out of. She would hate it. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 06:01 PM (vTZFs) 199
I make the filling following her recipe pretty closely: https://tinyurl.com/bdzhy8n7 I use corn tortillas, put the filling in, roll them up, put them in an oiled baking dish seam side down, cover with some of the sauce from cooking the chicken, cover the dish with foil, bake about 15-20 minutes, and then sprinkle cotija. I serve it with lime and avocado. You can also use Oaxaca if you want it a little cheesier. Posted by: Piper at September 13, 2026 05:59 PM (ZdaMQ) Muchas gracias, señorita! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 06:01 PM (iJfKG) 200
Bacon Butter, from the first microwave cookbook:
½ cup butter ¾ tsp prepared mustard 4 slices bacon In small mixer bowl, cream together butter and mustard. Cook bacon in Radarange Oven on paper plate and between paper towels until crisp, 3 to 4 minutes. Crumble bacon and blend with butter. Note that it turns solid as a rock in the fridge, but Im not sure it needs to be refrigerated. Probably depends on how chunky your crumbled bacon is. Recommended for English muffins, but it is pretty good on toast as well as on bagel chips. Probably good on popcorn. Also, you might want to let the bacon cool before crumbling it. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 13, 2026 06:02 PM (olroh) 201
If it please you, Caesar. Roast peacock from the Land of Egypt. Wild boar from Caesar's preserves in Dalmatia. Succulent dormice, saturated with poppy juice. Oysters, surrounded by Damson plums, sprinkled with cumin and benzoin root. Sausage, stuffed with golden plover's eggs and the breast of pheasant. Aged grasshoppers, fried in honey to a light golden brown. Eggs, made of crushed pearls colored to a golden hue and filled with yolks - in which we've nestled fat little ortolans roasted to a turn. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 13, 2026 06:02 PM (Cqx++) 202
AS a former bar manager i have found that the price of the booze neither increases the quality of drunkeness nor the relief of the urine
it's impossible to pee on your own shoes with style Posted by: what the cat drug in **** Ditto... Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 06:03 PM (zRghv) 203
Everyone's talking about the taste of booze.
Meanwhile, Korean soju. A bitter. But it gets the job done cheaply. About $3 a bottle and 2 bottles will do you. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 105 years old! Puppy at heart! at September 13, 2026 06:03 PM (Sco7b) 204
Muchas gracias, señorita! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, De nada! Not as cheesy as birria tacos, which are very good. But they are still yummy this way! Posted by: Piper at September 13, 2026 06:04 PM (ZdaMQ) 205
We tend to get a downpour just when my first tomatoes are ripe, so I got in the habit of picking the split ones and freezing them, and canning the later ones when they get ripe.
The frozen ones cook down nicely to sauce. I have not had wonderful luck with saving seeds, but I do tend to keep a volunteer plant or two in the garden -- I started in 2020 when i couldn't get garden starts. They make small cherry tomatoes mostly, but they are tough and have a lot of them. Some can be tasty too. Best thing with split tomatoes is to fry up some sliced onions, then add crushed garlic, tomatoes and red peppers to cook down, and then poach an egg or two in it, and serve it over toast or fried potatoes. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 06:04 PM (rbvCR) 206
Meanwhile, Korean soju. A bitter. But it gets the job done cheaply.
I have had it recently in San Diego and in off-Vegas, at Koreanish sushi places. Good stuff. But being the in thing, not necessarily cheap. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 13, 2026 06:06 PM (olroh) 207
I would love a big plate of fried green tomatoes.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:06 PM (E0Et6) 208
Akvavit. For hangover that lasts forever.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 06:08 PM (viF8m) 209
Everyone's talking about the taste of booze.
Meanwhile, Korean soju. A bitter. But it gets the job done cheaply. About $3 a bottle and 2 bottles will do you. **** So, you like waking up face down with snot coming out of your nose and feeling like you swallowed something out of a trash can? My brother!!! Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 06:08 PM (zRghv) 210
There was this time during my senior year in college when the first warm winds of Spring crossed the banks of the Olentangy. Then commenced a party, one which involved the ritual sacrifice of an ice-cold watermelon. The blade went snicker-snack, which left the melon with two cuts. Into the upper cut went a full, clear bottle of Gilbeys Vodka. The lower cut then served its purpose, allowing a slow, unstoppable flow of the world's worst-tasting aquavit through the fruit.
Jeepers, what a hangover. Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 06:09 PM (rj6Yv) 211
My wife tells me that for a long while Soju was made only from sweet potatoes and barley, since rice was considered a vital supply and forbidden to be turned in to booze. That may be why it is considered rot-gut.
Not sure when this was, especially since she does not drink Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 06:10 PM (rbvCR) 212
Akadama plum wine. Okinawa 1974.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 13, 2026 06:10 PM (Cqx++) 213
I did Sake, Saki, whatever.... years ago in CA. Horrible stuff.
This alone would legitimize WWII. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 06:11 PM (2Cry5) 214
>>I did Sake, Saki, whatever.... years ago in CA. Horrible stuff.
Years ago I had a business dinner in China. It seemed like ever 5 seconds one of my hosts would propose toast with Chinese rice wine. I felt like a vampire the next morning when the sun came up. I think I hissed at the sun a couple times. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 06:15 PM (viF8m) 215
I did Sake, Saki, whatever.... years ago in CA. Horrible stuff.
This alone would legitimize WWII. Posted by: Martini Farmer Sake: rice wine Saki: peninsula Posted by: mikeski at September 13, 2026 06:16 PM (VHUov) 216
Never tried saki, doubt much else in alcohol haven't had at one time or another
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 06:17 PM (Ia/+0) 217
So, you like waking up face down with snot coming out of your nose and feeling like you swallowed something out of a trash can?
My brother!!! Posted by: clarence at September 13, 2026 06:08 PM (zRghv) My co-worker was a hard-drinking 30 year old Florida girl. I could hold my own, but damn. First paycheck, she got a stock of liquor. Soju kicked our asses. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 105 years old! Puppy at heart! at September 13, 2026 06:18 PM (Sco7b) 218
Love Soju when eating Korean BBQ, it cuts the grease, and just plain tastes good. Also like Japanese Shochu which can be made from barley, sweet potatoes and just about anything else. I once drank carrot shochu that was super delicious. Sake, too, is great stuff. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 06:20 PM (iJfKG) 219
Today marks 23 years married to the ol' ball and chain. Ordering take out tonight to celebrate. Probably pizza, and I'm even springing for three toppings!
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:20 PM (62ILr) 220
219 Today marks 23 years married to the ol' ball and chain. Ordering take out tonight to celebrate. Probably pizza, and I'm even springing for three toppings!
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 At least light a candle or 2! (Congratulations. That is truly awesome!) Posted by: Piper at September 13, 2026 06:22 PM (ZdaMQ) 221
>> Today marks 23 years married to the ol' ball and chain. Ordering take out tonight to celebrate. Probably pizza, and I'm even springing for three toppings!
Congratulations. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 06:23 PM (viF8m) 222
Happy Anniversary, Weasels
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:23 PM (E0Et6) 223
Worst experience with alcohol was with Tango, a premixed orange drink and vodka concoction. So cheap that we bought a case of it then hauled it on the subway all the way to Rockaway Beach. It was off season, maybe November, so we had the beach to ourselves and drank to our hearts' content. Then came the puking...
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 13, 2026 06:23 PM (3ImbR) 224
I've kind of gotten tired of ordering pizza, but I like making it and Grandma Pie. I wonder if I can convince the lovely and thrifty to let me get one of those nice pizza ovens to go with my outdoor grills. Hmmm. Maybe Christmas??? Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 06:23 PM (iJfKG) 225
Do the pooches get pizza?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 13, 2026 06:23 PM (Cqx++) Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:24 PM (62ILr) Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 06:24 PM (iJfKG) 228
Do the pooches get pizza?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 13, 2026 06:23 PM (Cqx++) ---- They get to pick one of the toppings! Usually sausage. Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:25 PM (62ILr) 229
Happy Anniversary to both of you Weasel!!
Gonna go finish that salad. Bacon can wait until tomorrow. Good night all. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy - 105 years old! Puppy at heart! at September 13, 2026 06:25 PM (Sco7b) 230
Weasel congratulations. Do you encourage her weekly to buy more patience? She cannot have too much.
Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 06:25 PM (tTRUo) 231
Regarding vodka, I had a friend from Poland gift me with a bottle of Belvedere vodka, and I have to say it was the best tasting vodka I've ever had. I am not a vodka fan for sipping neat, but this was very tasty.
Posted by: Happy at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (743lG) 232
Pork Milanese is breaded and resting in the refrigerator!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (k5CNB) 233
Weasel, are you going to break out the Chinet paper plates, paper napkins and a rose in a vase for the table?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (E0Et6) 234
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:23 PM (E0Et6)
----- Thanks! I passed along your message and WW says "howdy" Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (62ILr) 235
Happy anniversary to Weasel and Weasel Woman. If you get that three topping pizza (how extravagant!) remember the pups like pepperoni as much as you do.
Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (yTvNw) 236
Weasel, are you going to break out the Chinet paper plates, paper napkins and a rose in a vase for the table?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (E0Et6) Hey! There’s room for two at the sink. Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 06:27 PM (tTRUo) 237
Congrats, Weasel!
Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 13, 2026 06:28 PM (3ImbR) 238
Weasel, are you going to break out the Chinet paper plates, paper napkins and a rose in a vase for the table?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (E0Et6) ------ Probably not. I need to keep expectations low. Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:28 PM (62ILr) 239
"Probably pizza, and I'm even springing for three toppings!
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:20 PM" Can't hide money. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 13, 2026 06:29 PM (2Ez/1) 240
Best thing with split tomatoes is to fry up some sliced onions, then add crushed garlic, tomatoes and red peppers to cook down, and then poach an egg or two in it, and serve it over toast or fried potatoes.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 06:04 PM (rbvCR) Sort of a Shakshuka! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 06:29 PM (k5CNB) 241
Happy Anniversary, weasel!
Are you able to walk to the door yet? Those theee toppings may be a bit heavy for you to manage with your broken toe. I think you may still need to take it easy. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2026 06:29 PM (7Lfjw) 242
william returned to the barracks at a "high state of drunkness" yet he was being quiet and not a douche, climbs in his bunk and crashed out, an hour later gets up, pees in mikes boots, jiggles the wall locker handle, gets back in bed.
Mike wasn't happy when he put on his boots nobody warned him although most everyone knew the army Posted by: what the cat drug in at September 13, 2026 06:29 PM (jrgJz) 243
Hey! There’s room for two at the sink.
Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 06:27 PM (tTRUo) ----- I wouldn't share the sink with just anyone! Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:29 PM (62ILr) Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 06:30 PM (6ydKt) 245
Weasel hope its a wonderful dinner anniversary
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 06:30 PM (Ia/+0) 246
Weasel, are you going to break out the Chinet paper plates, paper napkins and a rose in a vase for the table?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (E0Et6) Hey! There’s room for two at the sink. Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 06:27 PM (tTRUo) ==== Back in the day, we'd bring out the empty Chianti bottle with candle pushed innit for those extra-special moments. Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Weasel! Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 06:31 PM (rj6Yv) 247
Are you able to walk to the door yet? Those theee toppings may be a bit heavy for you to manage with your broken toe. I think you may still need to take it easy.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2026 06:29 PM (7Lfjw) ---- True. It's a burden I struggle with. Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:31 PM (62ILr) 248
Sake: rice wine
Saki: Posted by: mikeski at September 13, 2026 06:16 PM (VHUov) FIFY Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 06:32 PM (k5CNB) 249
Lamb chops on the grill this Sunday. Dusted with a dry rub I made a while back and will need to recall the ingredients. Freshly ground cardamom, for sure. Really good. The wine is a Bogle Petit Sirah..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 13, 2026 06:32 PM (nbLIj) 250
Congrats Weasel. Is there any anniversary cake left over from last week?
Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 06:34 PM (vTZFs) 251
Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 06:34 PM (vTZFs)
----- WW picked up a whole brand new chocolate cake in a fancy clear plastic bubble dome from the store today! Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:35 PM (62ILr) 252
Today marks 23 years married to the ol' ball and chain. Ordering take out tonight to celebrate. Probably pizza, and I'm even springing for three toppings!
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:20 PM Congrats, Weasel! Many more! Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 06:36 PM (P6lWH) 253
Happy anniversary W and WW
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 06:37 PM (RIvkX) 254
Three toppings: spam, spam, and spam?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 06:38 PM (RIvkX) Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:38 PM (62ILr) 256
Three toppings: spam, spam, and spam?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 06:38 PM Spam, spam, and pineapple. That one's only got a little spam. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 06:39 PM (P6lWH) 257
Three toppings: spam, spam, and spam?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 06:38 PM (RIvkX) --- Sausage, mushrooms and green peppers is our go-to. Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:40 PM (62ILr) 258
I haven't decided on dinner either Peanut Chicken noodles or Chicken a la King.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 06:41 PM (RIvkX) 259
Weasel congratulations. Do you encourage her weekly to buy more patience? She cannot have too much.
Posted by: Pete Bog at September 13, 2026 06:25 PM (tTRUo) ----- I keep forgetting a number of you fine folks have met her! Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:41 PM (62ILr) 260
Sausage, mushrooms and green peppers is our go-to.
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:40 PM (62ILr) ===== Perfection Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 06:42 PM (RIvkX) 261
Had pizza on Friday, Sausage, pepperoni, mushroom, roasted garlic, anchovies and extra cheese.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:44 PM (E0Et6) 262
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 06:42 PM (RIvkX)
---- Anniversary menu update. Meatball pizza for WW and an Italian sub for me. FSJ and Gertie love a good meatball! Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:46 PM (62ILr) Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:46 PM (62ILr) 264
Congrats on the anniversary, Weasel!
Posted by: Advo at September 13, 2026 06:48 PM (jO4mz) 265
Anniversary menu update. Meatball pizza for WW and an Italian sub for me.
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:46 PM (62ILr) Nice! Napkins or dish towels? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 06:49 PM (k5CNB) 266
Thanks Advo!
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:50 PM (62ILr) 267
Napkins or dish towels?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 06:49 PM (k5CNB) ---- 1/4 paper towel. I'm on a fixed income. Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:51 PM (62ILr) 268
265 Anniversary menu update. Meatball pizza for WW and an Italian sub for me.
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:46 PM (62ILr) Nice! Napkins or dish towels? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo Shirt sleeves. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2026 06:52 PM (yEz+x) 269
Today marks 23 years married to the ol' ball and chain. Ordering take out tonight to celebrate. Probably pizza, and I'm even springing for three toppings!
Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:20 PM You're not going wobbly on us, are you? Congratulations! Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2026 06:52 PM (0sNs1) Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:52 PM (62ILr) 271
Shirt sleeves. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2026 06:52 PM (yEz+x) ------- Is that wrong? Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:55 PM (62ILr) 272
CBD, Thank you another great food thread.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:55 PM (E0Et6) 273
Shirt sleeves.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2026 06:52 PM (yEz+x) ------- Is that wrong? Posted by: Weasel at September 13, 2026 06:55 PM Why dirty a shirt sleeve when you have the back of your hand? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 06:55 PM (P6lWH) 274
RMBS, gets it.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:56 PM (E0Et6) 275
RMBS, gets it.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:56 PM The Way of the Weasel does tend toward minimalism. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 06:57 PM (P6lWH) Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 06:59 PM (Ot/FD) 277
Great call Packers.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 07:00 PM (viF8m) 278
Gubs up.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2026 07:01 PM (P6lWH) First World Problems...![]() Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 01:56 PM (mmrXZ) 2
Phew. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 01:56 PM (mmrXZ) Posted by: biteme at September 13, 2026 01:57 PM (xWS9V) 4
Uhhh.... trying to think of an equivalent in ladies' fashions. Piper? Help? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 01:58 PM (mmrXZ) 5
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Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:58 PM (5Go8e) 6
My FWP of yesterday was missing glasses, found them after they were in a pocket, went through washer, hung on line outside awhile, in dryer after 15 minutes heard a clunking and found them. No worse for where.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 02:01 PM (qEb4U) 7
What? No burning it to the ground and starting ovet?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 13, 2026 02:01 PM (wxsGM) 8
Easy fix. Starch your collars. Heavy starch.
Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2026 02:04 PM (5rh/l) 9
Perry Ellis collar stay $10.00. Just buy a new shirt.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 02:05 PM (5Go8e) 10
Soldiers in Napoleonic and before wore collars, I take it the line to keep heads straight is BS, but not sure.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 02:05 PM (qEb4U) 11
Maybe I should buy some old tab collars?
Posted by: The Age of Jive at September 13, 2026 02:06 PM (XvL8K) 12
Uhhh.... trying to think of an equivalent in ladies' fashions. Piper? Help?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia Maybe back in the day when shoulder pads were a thing. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:07 PM (lJ0H4) 13
Strurdy collars are likely one of the three pillars of a civilized society.
Posted by: scampydog at September 13, 2026 02:09 PM (Dkeic) 14
My husband had some nice brass ones. I think I got them from Brooks Brothers.
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:10 PM (lJ0H4) 15
12 Uhhh.... trying to think of an equivalent in ladies' fashions. Piper? Help?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia Maybe back in the day when shoulder pads were a thing. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:07 PM (lJ0H4) Are there things women used to make their breasts look bigger that would deflate over time? Or is that a million dollar idea. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 13, 2026 02:11 PM (Sco7b) 16
10 Soldiers in Napoleonic and before wore collars, I take it the line to keep heads straight is BS, but not sure.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 02:05 PM (qEb4U) web search 'leathernecks' Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2026 02:11 PM (5rh/l) 17
Are there things women used to make their breasts look bigger that would deflate over time?
Or is that a million dollar idea. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart Uh..no. They were to square up your shoulders. Think 1980's ladies. Big hair and big shoulders. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:13 PM (lJ0H4) Posted by: man at September 13, 2026 02:14 PM (pfXMo) 19
So I look up from making cookies and see that tha Cleveland Browns are down 24 -0 with lots of time left in the second quarter. Runs thru my mind that maybe they should just give it up, disband the team, slink out of town.
Then I think wait a minute, didn't they do that already? Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 02:16 PM (sl73Y) 20
Bah! Don't need those things with my wardrobe. Casual is in.
Why do people let other people push them around? Tell them to f*** off. Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 02:17 PM (xJpuh) 21
>>Uh..no. They were to square up your shoulders. Think 1980's ladies. Big hair and big shoulders.
Big fun. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:17 PM (viF8m) Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 02:18 PM (sl73Y) 23
I never understood high heels, that looks like torture
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 02:18 PM (qEb4U) Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:21 PM (viF8m) 25
I have made them by cutting up the lids of yogurt tubs. The thin UHMW works fairly well, and are not stiff enough to jab my collarbones.
You do need to remove them for washing and ironing, they do deform in heat. Eventually I realized I didn't care, and if I did I should buy Oxfords. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:23 PM (rbvCR) 26
Yes, I thought I'd moved up in the world when I bought a shirt with metal collar stays.. But the world kept moving, too.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 13, 2026 02:25 PM (Jvw8+) 27
Are there things women used to make their breasts look bigger that would deflate over time?
Or is that a million dollar idea. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 13, 2026 02:11 PM (Sco7b) Knew a lady who called the silicon versions of those her "chicken cutlets" Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:26 PM (rbvCR) 28
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 02:01 PM (qEb4U
I'm glad you found them and they were o.k. You will have officially reached old age when you put sunglasses or regular glasses hanging over your front shirt and you don't recall where they are😉 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 02:27 PM (JrHfD) 29
Here is a new first world problem...
Call some company. Get through to a person unexpectedly fast. After talking with the "person" for 30s you realize it is an AI pretending to be a human. One local place the AI bot told me several times it was a real person until I demanded to speak with an actual human... Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2026 02:28 PM (sKqQm) 30
Anyways, real men wear Collar Tips.
Extra point for filagree or massy sterling silver with turquoise accents Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:29 PM (rbvCR) 31
@23. Skip.
I never understood high heels, that looks like torture Women think it makes them look sexy. But the looks on their faces cancel that out. However if that is what they want to do that is their business. And it's kinda funny when they fall off those things. Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 02:30 PM (xJpuh) 32
Collar stays...meh. Now cuff links. That's an accessory I'd like to see make a come back..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 13, 2026 02:30 PM (nbLIj) 33
Eventually I realized I didn't care, and if I did I should buy Oxfords.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:23 PM (rbvCR) Most of mine are Oxfords, but I like a bit of variety, and Oxfords aren't particularly good for more formal dress. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 02:32 PM (k5CNB) 34
Uhhh.... trying to think of an equivalent in ladies' fashions. Piper? Help?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia Under wire! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 02:32 PM (NnhvP) 35
I like how we to go through lying AI to get to halfway honest customer service now.
It’s like a game you can play while you wait. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 02:33 PM (6ydKt) 36
Uhhh.... trying to think of an equivalent in ladies' fashions. Piper? Help?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia Under wire! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron Yes! Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:33 PM (lJ0H4) 37
Most of mine are Oxfords, but I like a bit of variety, and Oxfords aren't particularly good for more formal dress.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo Paperclips! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 02:33 PM (NnhvP) 38
Don't think ever had a AI answered call yet
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 02:34 PM (qEb4U) 39
Please Santa.
>>@JacquiHeinrich · 1h >>Border Czar Tom Homan says Dem Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is under criminal investigation by HSI for possible immigration/naturalization fraud. In his answer, he also implies that it could become a denaturalization case. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:34 PM (viF8m) 40
Oxfords are also not particularly good for Arizona summers…
Posted by: Insensitive Clod at September 13, 2026 02:34 PM (gCg+u) 41
I have no lights that turn on automatically at my house. I looked after the cats at my friends house this week . Her house unlike mine was probably built since 2000 and the front door lights seem to turn on automatically- maybe because it was dark and rainy today. I hope they turned off , and I hope I didn't do something wrong. We don't have an automatic garage door opener either and apparently I hit it this week unintentionally and the doors went up. Her neighbors alerted here and her husband could apparently close them automatically remotely.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 02:35 PM (JrHfD) 42
Don't get me started over collar bars.
Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 02:35 PM (rj6Yv) 43
You are far more formal than I, CBD. I mostly wear t-shirts with a flannel shirt on top. I also wear dress shirts with the collars removed because they are Nordstroms and the collar wore out.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:35 PM (rbvCR) 44
Esty has custom collar stays.. Only $210.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 02:37 PM (NnhvP) 45
43 You are far more formal than I, CBD. I mostly wear t-shirts with a flannel shirt on top. I also wear dress shirts with the collars removed because they are Nordstroms and the collar wore out.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:35 PM (rbvCR Never crossed my mind to cut worn-out collars off shirts. Bonus! That would give them an ole-timey look, and I’m all about old-timey. Posted by: Eromero at September 13, 2026 02:39 PM (LHPAg) 46
Oxfords are also not particularly good for Arizona summers…
Posted by: Insensitive Clod Move to Flagstaff it's high enough to be cool, merely 7000ft. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 02:40 PM (NnhvP) 47
You could always wear a whiplash collar.
They don’t move much. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 02:40 PM (6ydKt) 48
This is the winter of the great suit purge. A career worth of wearing the clown clothes comes to a glorious end.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:41 PM (viF8m) 49
It's a slow day, and I'm not helping any.
Kindle tablet "keyboard" stopped working and I just wanted to see if hitting restart could solve the problem. Apparently so. Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 02:41 PM (sl73Y) 50
Oh yes- Another first world problem . The horrible sound the car makes when "Nanny car" wants to remind you that
you didn't put on your seat belt as a passenger. Almost Everytime I get in when spouse is driving he says, "Put on the seat belt belt before the car blows up!! As if it's a 007 Bond film. Did I Mention that my dear husband likes repetitive "bits". Some he has used for decades. 😉 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 02:42 PM (JrHfD) 51
Brooks Brothers still carries collar stay. 24 in various sizes for 10 bucks. Regrettably not brass but PVC.
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:42 PM (lJ0H4) 52
>>The Western world has lost sight of the importance of quality collar stays, and that way lies madness!
'Da barbarians are at the gates!' -- Snake-Eye McFoul Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 02:43 PM (NcvvS) 53
I hit it this week unintentionally and the doors went up. Her neighbors alerted here and her husband could apparently close them automatically remotely.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke An aircraft carrier turned on all its radar while in port in Alameda CA. People couldn't figure out why all their garage doors were open. Doh! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 02:43 PM (NnhvP) 54
Under wire. Sounds painful.
Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 02:43 PM (xJpuh) 55
This is the winter of the great suit purge. A career worth of wearing the clown clothes comes to a glorious end.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:41 PM (viF8m) ====== Pea coats and pea jackets? Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 02:44 PM (rj6Yv) 56
This is the winter of the great suit purge. A career worth of wearing the clown clothes comes to a glorious end.
Posted by: JackStraw at I did that this spring, having reached fifteen years out. Kept one lighter suit for weddings (guest), and one darker suit for funerals, including mine. Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 02:45 PM (sl73Y) 57
CBD, you need bespoke whalebone collar stays.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 02:46 PM (kpS4V) Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:46 PM (viF8m) 59
Kept one lighter suit for weddings (guest), and one darker suit for funerals, including mine.
Posted by: From about That Time Oh wise one! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 02:46 PM (NnhvP) 60
Under wire. Sounds painful.
Posted by: Case Underwire bras are the most uncomfortable things in the world. Unfortunately, some of us over 29s need them. Gravity is a bitch. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:46 PM (lJ0H4) 61
Ladies' wear example:
The underwire of a bra works great for support. Then manufacturers start to skimp on the fabric at the seams, so the wires would poke through and start sliding out at the most inconvenient times. That meant I'd be fixing bras (mine, my roommate's, my co-workers etc) with hand sewing. Then manufacturers got the bright idea of using plastic instead of wire. Plastic snaps and pokes you (if you're an 'Ette) in the breast. Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 13, 2026 02:47 PM (ao+in) 62
I did not know they were called 'Collar stays'.
Maybe Collar thingees? Collar supports? Collar stiffener? Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 13, 2026 02:47 PM (Y/06r) 63
Yeah if going for collar stays, might as well get real whale bone
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 02:48 PM (qEb4U) 64
All the succinct Ettes did a better job than my tome!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 13, 2026 02:48 PM (ao+in) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 02:49 PM (JrHfD) 66
Uhhh.... trying to think of an equivalent in ladies' fashions. Piper? Help? Posted by: Blonde Morticia Under wire! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron Yes! Posted by: Tuna =============== lol I was thinking of that, but it's been a long time since I switched to stretchies. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 02:50 PM (mmrXZ) 67
My second $3/pound hamburger meal of the day.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 02:50 PM (5Go8e) 68
My FWP I need a pedicure badly. My spring green toenails are looking like little shovels.
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:50 PM (lJ0H4) 69
CBD, you need bespoke whalebone collar stays.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 02:46 PM (kpS4V) Exactly! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo, but call me Ishmael at September 13, 2026 02:51 PM (k5CNB) 70
>>I did that this spring, having reached fifteen years out. Kept one lighter suit for weddings (guest), and one darker suit for funerals, including mine.
Had one made a few years for just that reason. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:51 PM (viF8m) 71
I wear dress shirts every day for work. I can tell you from hard experience that removable metal collar stays are where it's at.
You can buy a metric shitload of them for a few bucks on Amazon. Next question please. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 02:51 PM (wpRMV) 72
My FWP is that the Wi-Fi was shut off at work on Friday when I was putting in grades. Before I could upload lesson plans for next week.
So I have to go in today. Love the kids; hate the checklist. Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 13, 2026 02:52 PM (ao+in) 73
Ditto the suit purge. Ties were ceremoniously burned. Posted by: Auspex at September 13, 2026 02:52 PM (Y8DZL) 74
Tuna, I got a badly needed pedicure yesterday. Why do I wait until I have talons?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 02:52 PM (kpS4V) 75
Charles Tyrwhitt spread collars come with brass stays.
Posted by: free tibet at September 13, 2026 02:54 PM (iNp3L) 76
Tuna, I got a badly needed pedicure yesterday. Why do I wait until I have talons?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes My nail salon is closed on Monday so Tuesday it is. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 02:54 PM (lJ0H4) 77
42 Don't get me started over collar bars.
Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 02:35 PM (rj6Yv) ----------- The Eighties just called and wants its fashions back. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 02:55 PM (wpRMV) 78
Then manufacturers got the bright idea of using plastic instead of wire. Plastic snaps and pokes you (if you're an 'Ette) in the breast.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 13, 2026 02:47 PM (ao+in) When I had to go in and out of the courthouse a lot, I was part of a group getting training and the instructor mentioned that for the ladies with underwires that the magnetometer would pick them up and suggested that "crossing your arms under your breasts often hides the signature" I of course almost earned a strip search because I forgot my cell phone in my shirt pocket triggered the sensor as much as the keys in my pocket and belt buckle. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:55 PM (rbvCR) 79
Please Santa. >>@JacquiHeinrich · 1h >>Border Czar Tom Homan says Dem Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is under criminal investigation by HSI for possible immigration/naturalization fraud. In his answer, he also implies that it could become a denaturalization case. Posted by: JackStraw =============== Markwayne Mullin has been making some noises about her, too. Not getting my hopes up regardless. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 02:56 PM (mmrXZ) 80
>>Ditto the suit purge. Ties were ceremoniously burned.
I have a bunch of Jerry Garcia designed ties, because of course I do. It was my little way of sticking it to the man when I had to wear the monkey suit. F you, man. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:56 PM (viF8m) 81
Being retired means not giving a shit about what to wear. Either here at home, or in public.
There's a reason the Walmartians wear jammies to shop. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 02:57 PM (2Cry5) 82
Tuna, I got a badly needed pedicure yesterday. Why do I wait until I have talons?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 02:52 PM (kpS4V) I keep telling you, get one of those posts that is covered with jute matting. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:58 PM (rbvCR) 83
I kept my collection of "Friday" ties, from before the office casual days. A subtle revolutionary while in Big 8 accounting. From slightly risque, like Piccaso cubic nudes, to goofball, like Daffy Duck. Should put them one eBay or something.
Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 02:58 PM (sl73Y) 84
Ties were ceremoniously burned.
Posted by: Auspex at September 13, 2026 02:52 PM (Y8DZL) I have about 75 ties, and I have no idea why. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo, but call me Ishmael at September 13, 2026 02:58 PM (k5CNB) 85
I kid, but the Eighties were a great time for men's professional wear. Braces, collar bars, contrasting shirt collars (Mrs Cicero razzed my "ice cream man shirts"), cufflinks, vests, pleated trousers with cuffs.
Man I miss those days. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 02:59 PM (wpRMV) 86
I have a bunch of Jerry Garcia designed ties, because of course I do.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 02:56 PM (viF8m) So do I! They are nice ties! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo, but call me Ishmael at September 13, 2026 02:59 PM (k5CNB) 87
I keep telling you, get one of those posts that is covered with jute matting.
Posted by: Kindltot at September ---- Ha! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 03:00 PM (kpS4V) Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 03:00 PM (viF8m) 89
After I retired I donated all my "good" clothes to one of those nonprofits that helps out young men who are entering the professional workforce, but maybe don't have the resources to by a wardrobe to wear 5 days a week.
Everything; slacks, shirts, ties and shoes. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 03:01 PM (2Cry5) 90
collar bars, contrasting shirt collars (Mrs Cicero razzed my "ice cream man shirts")
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 02:59 PM (wpRMV) Were you a pimp? Although your wife has good taste, so I am puzzled. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo, but call me Ishmael at September 13, 2026 03:01 PM (k5CNB) 91
My Jerry Garcia ties (2) are party ties, not work ties.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 03:02 PM (wpRMV) Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 03:03 PM (wpRMV) 93
>>After I retired I donated all my "good" clothes to one of those nonprofits that helps out young men who are entering the professional workforce, but maybe don't have the resources to by a wardrobe to wear 5 days a week.
That's my plan. Cause we boomers are fucking evil. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 03:03 PM (viF8m) 94
Because I thought it was important - willowed from yesterday:
The educational capture was the masterpiece. ------------- 4 or more years of socialist indoctrination followed by a piece of paper that's worthless. Go to job interview and are totally confused about what you're expected to do, hate the idea of a work schedule, being told what to do, when to do it and when to complete it. Bail on finding meaningful work and become increasingly pissed off at society. Fall back on your "degree" and join up with like minded people and spend your days protesting. You get free meals, a place to sleep and feel like you're really "sticking it to the man." There's at least two generations of this festering resentment about to boil over. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 02:39 PM (2Cry5) == This is starting to be reversed, and the left will be fighting it to the death. Posted by: Black JEM at September 13, 2026 03:03 PM (UQRAm) 95
I keep a few suits just in case, heaven forfend, I need to get a job.
I know, it is to laugh. Who would hire me? Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 03:03 PM (kpS4V) 96
33 Eventually I realized I didn't care, and if I did I should buy Oxfords.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:23 PM (rbvCR) Most of mine are Oxfords, but I like a bit of variety, and Oxfords aren't particularly good for more formal dress. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 02:32 PM (k5CNB) I wear neither Oxfords (actually, I have only one of them) nor blue jeans. All my shirts (and I don't need a lot of them in this casual era) are regular collars which need collar stays - Charles Tyrwhitt are the best, as mentioned by #75. Used to love Oxfords, but I found that the positioning of the buttons and the size of the collars vary widely by maker, and they don't look as great on me as I usually imagine they would. Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 13, 2026 03:03 PM (0CU3H) 97
>After I retired I donated all my "good" clothes to one of those nonprofits that helps out young men who are entering the professional workforce, but maybe don't have the resources to by a wardrobe to wear 5 days a week.
That's my plan. Cause we boomers are fucking evil. -------- fist bump Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 03:06 PM (2Cry5) 98
>>Border Czar Tom Homan says Dem Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is under criminal investigation by HSI for possible immigration/naturalization fraud. In his answer, he also implies that it could become a denaturalization case.
This is what I voted for. Now, assuming they do have the goods on her, do they bring this during the election season or right after? Does it drive more R leaning voters to know the Dems are bro-f*cking liars and cheats or more D leaning voters because "muh democracy!" Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2026 03:08 PM (sKqQm) 99
I have 2 suits. 1 I haven't worn in a decade.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2026 03:10 PM (GquHV) 100
I have some of both GrandPappy’s ties from 30s, 40s, and 50s, and GrandPappy Eromero’s hats, felt and straw. I wear the hats to church.
Posted by: Eromero at September 13, 2026 03:10 PM (LHPAg) 101
Counterfeit, or "reproduction" Zip-Loc closures. Lots of retail food items have them. That's nice, but. But they aren't worth a damn.
----- AI, and "Chat" with companies is worthless, generally. If you try to call someone, to talk to a human being or representative to accomplish a task that can't be done online, they will regale you whilst on hold, that they have a website, and you should do that. MFers. If I could get it done online without going through this bullshit, I would have. That's why I'm calling you. Chat, even if manned by human beings, can never seem to do anything constructive or substantial. Spend 15 minutes, waiting, verifying identity, explaining your problem, and "I Can't Do That". Thanks! Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:11 PM (uozx9) 102
>>Now, assuming they do have the goods on her, do they bring this during the election season or right after? Does it drive more R leaning voters to know the Dems are bro-f*cking liars and cheats or more D leaning voters because "muh democracy!"
You answered your own question. Politics ain't all that complicated. Do what you said you were going to do. >>This is what I voted for. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 03:11 PM (viF8m) 103
I read that the administration wants the 11han Omar situation to NOT appear in anyway, political. It has to be a purely immigration law issue. Otherwise they fear Congress, as a whole, will rally behind the POS Omar and derail getting her ass out of the country.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 03:12 PM (2Cry5) 104
The UNTUCKit store in the moderately upscale outdoor mall near here closed recently. I guess it's not a bad product idea but it was never enough to support a chain of dedicated stand-alone stores.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 03:13 PM (ZOMyU) 105
I deal with the problem by almost never having to wear a necktie any longer. My employer changed the dress standards years ago. So I wear a long-sleeve broadcloth shirt, pressed dress trousers and polished leather dress shoes.
I'm still better dressed than 99% of the engineers -- who look like a bunch of hobos. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 13, 2026 03:14 PM (ksbjf) 106
Denaturalize and deport her.
Omar can continue to represent her district. ... from Mogadishu. Not optimal, but preferable to the present situation. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 03:15 PM (6ydKt) 107
I threw out or donated a bunch of dad's ties and suits that remained after he passed. Everything, except for a Harris tweed that he wore for many years. We used to joke that it was "early Stonehenge" styling. But pretty much impossible to wear out.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:16 PM (uozx9) 108
GFY
Posted by: A Bunch of Hobos, But Fashion Forward at September 13, 2026 03:16 PM (wpRMV) 109
Out of fashion nowadays, but the equivalent of collar stays for men is stays in women’s corsets.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 13, 2026 03:17 PM (D7w1V) 110
I read that the administration wants the 11han Omar situation to NOT appear in anyway, political. It has to be a purely immigration law issue. Otherwise they fear Congress, as a whole, will rally behind the POS Omar and derail getting her ass out of the country.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 03:12 PM (2Cry5) It is an 80-20 issue, that no one wants to touch but. . . "Design your action so that your target is forced to make a decision, and all their available options play to you advantage" and "When taking on a big and well-known target, it is often the target's reaction to your action that is the key to success. Therefore, anticipate your target's reaction and write that into your script" Exempting Omar is a losing play. Scotching immigration enforcement is a losing play. Making a law just about Omar will get the Supremes in play and they DO NOT WANT TO PLAY Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 03:18 PM (rbvCR) 111
have some of both GrandPappy’s ties from 30s, 40s, and 50s, and GrandPappy Eromero’s hats, felt and straw. I wear the hats to church.
Posted by: Eromero Grandpa Aspirin Factory had some nice hats. It finished his suit and it was classy. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2026 03:18 PM (GquHV) 112
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia Do not take rythjabnarty if you are allergic to rythjabnarty or any of its ingredients. Side effects include headache, blurred vision, spastic typing fingers, and a fanatical devotion to being first. Posted by: mikeski at September 13, 2026 03:19 PM (VHUov) 113
they fear Congress, as a whole, will rally behind the POS Omar and derail getting her ass out of the country
----- Any halfway sane country the congress would have expelled her, if not preventing her from being seated in the first place. Clown World As somebody observed the other day, the left figured out the constitution really is a suicide pact, and they've been making the most of it for decades now Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:19 PM (uozx9) 114
The picture doesn't show my problem with them..... if you forget to take them out of your shirt, the washer/dryer folds them into little plastic accordions.
Posted by: mikeski at September 13, 2026 03:20 PM (VHUov) 115
Dryer balls solve these problems, supposedly.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 03:22 PM (6ydKt) 116
I took a job with the US Army in 2013. I'd been working for NOAA in California on the Monterey Coast prior to making the move.
Radically different dress codes. I was... unprepared. And ridiculed for years. I was honestly disappointed shorts and flip flops were frowned upon after wearing them for over a decade. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 03:22 PM (2Cry5) 117
114 The picture doesn't show my problem with them..... if you forget to take them out of your shirt, the washer/dryer folds them into little plastic accordions.
Posted by: mikeski at September 13, 2026 03:20 PM (VHUov) ----------- That's nothing compared to what a commercial laundry does to them if you forget to take them out. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 03:22 PM (wpRMV) 118
This is the winter of the great suit purge. A career worth of wearing the clown clothes comes to a glorious end.
Posted by: JackStraw at I did that this spring, having reached fifteen years out. Kept one lighter suit for weddings (guest), and one darker suit for funerals, including mine. Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 02:45 PM (sl73Y) I don't even need to wear a suit to be buried. I am authorized to wear the white habit and scapular of the Dominican religious order (I'm a lay brother). Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 13, 2026 03:23 PM (ksbjf) 119
I don't even need to wear a suit to be buried. I am authorized to wear the white habit and scapular of the Dominican religious order (I'm a lay brother).
------------ I just need something fireproof. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 03:25 PM (wpRMV) 120
I was never a Dead-head, but I loved my Jerry Garcia ties.
Speaking of, I need to go clothes shopping again. It's one of my most hated chores, but I'm down to about 3 serviceable ties and maybe 5 pair of appropriate pants. Posted by: PabloD at September 13, 2026 03:26 PM (aHN1Y) 121
Bills defense still can’t get off the field. My dad kept one grey suit from his IBM days for funerals. I tossed all of my suits from prep school.
Posted by: Accomack at September 13, 2026 03:27 PM (/Chlc) Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 03:27 PM (viF8m) 123
Have turtlenecks entered the conversation?
Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 03:28 PM (2WIwB) 124
98 >>Border Czar Tom Homan says Dem Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is under criminal investigation by HSI for possible immigration/naturalization fraud. In his answer, he also implies that it could become a denaturalization case.
This is what I voted for. Now, assuming they do have the goods on her, do they bring this during the election season or right after? Does it drive more R leaning voters to know the Dems are bro-f*cking liars and cheats or more D leaning voters because "muh democracy!" Posted by: 18-1 at September 13, 2026 03:08 PM (sKqQm) Omar is in the umpteen victimhood category. Rather than trying to deport her and having to fight it all the way to SCOTUS, Trump should play it this way. He loudly proclaims in an Oval Office press event he's going to show mercy to her, not deport her. Only because she is a Member of Congress. From then on, he and every Republican can call Omar the Dem congressman who owes Trump for letting her stay in the country. Despite her being deportable for lying on an immigration form about her second husband's ID because he is actually her brother. A clear-cut deportable offense. I'm sure Trump can can come up with a wicked nickname for her. Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2026 03:29 PM (5rh/l) 125
Everyone is afraid to step on Muslim 's toes and tje Muslims love it that way.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 03:29 PM (qEb4U) 126
course almost earned a strip search because I forgot my cell phone in my shirt pocket triggered the sensor as much as the keys in my pocket and belt buckle.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:55 PM Wow! I never thought about that. Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 13, 2026 03:30 PM (ao+in) Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 03:30 PM (aJQbY) 128
Appropos of nothing, in the last couple years I've noticed some people try to argue - in light of how expensive fast food has become - that fast food "is supposed to be cheap", which I never found to be the case, but not only that, it was (they claim) cheaper to eat out at regular restaurants than prepare meals at home.
If that were ever true, nobody would have cooked at home in the first place. When I was a little kid we went out to a regular restaurant maybe a half dozen times a year. Probably not even that. It was a big deal, because we had to get dressed up, I probably had to take a bath. McDonald's was a treat, because it involved relaxed grooming standards, just hop in the car with Dad and go pick it up. We did that about a half dozen times a year, maybe. Parents in those days might have went out a bit more often, but generally feeding the family was not done at Burger King or McDonalds. Not even close. If it were cheaper - they would have done that, LOL. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:30 PM (uozx9) 129
Do any First Worlders wear UNTUCKit shirts? I shan't believe that. Shan't.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 13, 2026 03:30 PM (bX16E) 130
Jack Straw at #24: Thank you for that. What a beautiful two-minute intermission for the afternoon.
Posted by: Wenda at September 13, 2026 03:30 PM (WBjaU) 131
For all the he men out there--When someone uses the word pedicure, that means cutting back your toenails.
Yeah, like when we get our pocket knife out and cut back our toenails when they get a bit too long. Can you believe some people PAY to have this done? First world indeed. Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 03:31 PM (xJpuh) 132
glurp gleep glop
Posted by: Paul...who likes the flavor of his dog's excrement at September 13, 2026 03:31 PM (qIJYa) 133
After I retired, I got rid of all my suits, then most of my dress clothes, then most of my casual stuff too except for a couple of jeans and t-shirts. Eventually I will just wander around Wally World in crocs and an adult diaper and maybe a hoodie.
No one will notice. Posted by: Overdressed at September 13, 2026 03:32 PM (cCXR+) 134
My favorite tie was a black one with the prism from Dark Side of the Moon printed on it. Being in IT all my professional 38 years working... I had one or two that had printed circuit board motifs.
Worked through the paisley, the stripes, the floral, the solid, the knits, the thin, the wide.... all those. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 03:33 PM (2Cry5) 135
Common Tater, they are mixing it up with the fact that fast food should be meaningfully cheaper than sit-down restaurant food. I cast my mind back to our poor days as children and realize we only went out to eat once every few months. I wonder if, after adjusting for inflation's ratios, today's "a week's meals for 1-2 fast food meals" is the kind of thing we had back then too... and I don't know because as a kid I never saw the prices, just the food.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 03:34 PM (aJQbY) 136
>>Jack Straw at #24: Thank you for that. What a beautiful two-minute intermission for the afternoon.
I usually hate when some "artist" sings the national anthem or America the Beautiful but I thought he did a great job. If I could sing like that I would never have had to wear a suit. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 03:34 PM (viF8m) 137
When I first moved to California it took me a year to notice I was the only one at work wearing a suit.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 03:35 PM (RIvkX) 138
Those Barney Miller ties of the 70's were an abomination.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 13, 2026 03:35 PM (GquHV) 139
I gave up and use paperclips. Just remember to take them out it the outline of a paperclip gets pressed into your shirt.
Posted by: BenMSYS at September 13, 2026 03:36 PM (vR93T) 140
Welp, it's time to deploy the dinghy to figure out why the motor likes to stall at inopportune times.
Later gators. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 03:36 PM (wpRMV) 141
I wore ties for a few years because I had to but as soon as I didn't anymore I got rid of them. What are they for anyway? The are just a dumb fashion thing.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 03:36 PM (MWfyi) 142
Jack Straw at #24: Thank you for that. What a beautiful two-minute intermission for the afternoon.
Posted by: Wenda Agreed! The man can sing, doesn't mess with the pacing too much, and sings the 2nd verse! (Would love to hear him do *all* the verses) Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 03:37 PM (aJQbY) 143
128 Appropos of nothing, in the last couple years I've noticed some people try to argue - in light of how expensive fast food has become - that fast food "is supposed to be cheap", which I never found to be the case, but not only that, it was (they claim) cheaper to eat out at regular restaurants than prepare meals at home. [...]
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:30 PM (uozx9) I do not recall anyone making the claim that it was cheaper than eating at home. I do recall the claim being that it was cheaper than eating at the diners and restaurants, which was (and for the most part still is) true. Posted by: goozer at September 13, 2026 03:38 PM (eTh1u) 144
I have two types of ties. There are the ones for church and there are ones for dog shows, which are patterned with dog motifs. They are frequently the occasion for compliments. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 03:39 PM (eRlcH) Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 03:41 PM (iJfKG) 146
Worked through the paisley, the stripes, the floral, the solid, the knits, the thin, the wide.... all those.
Posted by: Martini Farmer Some of the wider ones from the seventies were almost wide enough to be used as a tablecloth. LOL Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 03:43 PM (lJ0H4) 147
Won't you STAY, just a little bit longer....
Posted by: Jackson Brownie at September 13, 2026 03:45 PM (Fn+3X) 148
4 or more years of socialist indoctrination followed by a piece of paper that's worthless. Go to job interview and are totally confused about what you're expected to do, hate the idea of a work schedule, being told what to do, when to do it and when to complete it. ___________ I am amazed at the number of posts I see saying that a 40-hour-week office job is like Auschwitz. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 03:46 PM (eRlcH) 149
So...
Full Windsor knot or half Windsor? Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 03:46 PM (2WIwB) 150
This used to be a decent blog, before they started catering to these people in jackets and ties!
Posted by: Hesh and Heidi at September 13, 2026 03:47 PM (Fn+3X) Posted by: Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs at September 13, 2026 03:49 PM (lJ0H4) 152
I pay a Chinaman to handle my shirts. She's on a DEPORT list, so prices are low.
Posted by: Hong Chinee Hand Laundry at September 13, 2026 03:49 PM (Fn+3X) 153
Keep hearing new graduates want top dollar 20 year experience pay
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 03:49 PM (qEb4U) 154
Full Windsor knot or half Windsor? Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 03:46 PM (2WIwB) ________ Full. Half Windsor is fundamentally unserious. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 03:49 PM (eRlcH) 155
they are mixing it up with the fact that fast food should be meaningfully cheaper than sit-down restaurant food.
----- That might be part of it for sure. But I've read three different claims from people in widely different forums that it used to be cheaper to eat out at restaurants than cook at home. I can't see how that would ever be the case on any sort of extended basis. Again, if it were, then nobody would have cooked at home, ever. The big draw, as I recall, if I didn't realize it at the time was giving dear old Mom a break once in a while, too. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:50 PM (uozx9) 156
Hell, if you must wear a tie, get a clip on. Life doesn't have to be complicated.
Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 03:51 PM (xJpuh) 157
If you need to undergird with underwire, things are dire, indeed.
Posted by: Speaker Emerita at September 13, 2026 03:51 PM (Fn+3X) 158
I know a fast food burger was 8 to 10 cents, while a sit down restaurant burger was 35-45 cents in 1968.
Low end was a Howdy's and Ho Jo's, high end was McDonalds and Bergsons. Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 03:51 PM (sl73Y) 159
Wide lapels, wide ties, just looked goofy. Even in the 70s, even at the time. Mercifully it didn't last forever.
In recent years suit styles have trended towards the "hand me down" look, where they appear to be a couple sizes too small. That looks unnecessarily weird to me as well. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:52 PM (uozx9) 160
On the other hand, a Half-Nelson is fundamentally painful.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 03:53 PM (6ydKt) 161
Jack Straw,
If you could sing like that you'd be wearing very formal suits to sing at the White House. Posted by: Wenda at September 13, 2026 03:53 PM (WBjaU) 162
I am amazed at the number of posts I see saying that a 40-hour-week office job is like Auschwitz.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh Spoiled they are. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 03:53 PM (lJ0H4) 163
I don't think you can buy an extra BBQ sauce for anything less than .50 cents these days.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 03:54 PM (6ydKt) 164
"Deploy the dinghy" sounds very naughty.
Posted by: The Vulgar Boatman.. at September 13, 2026 03:54 PM (Fn+3X) 165
Dryer balls solve these problems, supposedly.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 03:22 PM (6ydKt) Gold Bond, right. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 03:54 PM (rbvCR) 166
I know a fast food burger was 8 to 10 cents, while a sit down restaurant burger was 35-45 cents in 1968
----- But then, how much was a pound of ground beef? The nice thing about fast food wasn't that it was less expensive, it was tasty and ready to go, and no dishes to wash or kitchen clean up. But nobody ever claimed it was cheaper than eating at home until recently. It's just weird to hear people say something like that. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:54 PM (uozx9) 167
FWP: When you need a dremel to trim you toenails. I keeps the blood from leaking out.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 13, 2026 03:58 PM (5C90x) 168
There are a lot of the online complaints about fast food prices around here.
But what's worse, was the constant begging for money. Money for food, for gas, for rent, for.... whatever. Hundreds of posts, most behind a fake name, over and over and over. I'd get flamed to no end pointing out they have money for a cell phone and the connectivity to beg online, so maybe use that money to buy food instead of posting shit. Reality sucks for these people. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 03:58 PM (2Cry5) 169
Speaking of dingy deployment, next weekend is the annual Newport Boat Show.
The stuff of dreams. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 03:58 PM (viF8m) 170
Have turtlenecks entered the conversation?
Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 03:28 PM (2WIwB) you can make a very nice neck gaiter from the sleeve off of an old tee-shirt, you just need to sacrifice one of a color you like to cut up. It needs to be long enough to tuck into your jacket collar in front and back, and watch out if you use a pocket tee. (Though it might be good to have some spare place to hold your glasses and a couple ball point pens) Also, I suggest you use one of your own shirts because every time you wear it you are essentially shoving your nose into an armpit, and it seems less offensive to me to use my own shirts. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 03:59 PM (rbvCR) 171
I remember not too long ago when you could get a fast food sandwich, fries, drink for around $7.50 with tax.
Now it's regularly double that. There was never a time when you could eat for less money outside the home, unless by meal you mean a Coke and a pack of crackers. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 03:59 PM (6ydKt) 172
The Western world has lost sight of the importance of quality collar stays, and that way lies madness!
Posted by: CBD at 01:55 PM Tell me about it. Posted by: Spats at September 13, 2026 04:01 PM (4NO2D) 173
> There was never a time when you could eat for less money outside the home, unless by meal you mean a Coke and a pack of crackers.
---------- RC cola and a pack of cigs. No need for food. At least for a couple hours. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 04:02 PM (2Cry5) 174
Full Windsor knot or half Windsor?
Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 03:46 PM (2WIwB) Four in hand. Windsors are for people who care. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 04:02 PM (rbvCR) 175
Mr. McGuire: I want to say one word to you. Just one word. Benjamin: Yes, sir. Mr. McGuire: Are you listening? Benjamin: Yes, I am. Mr. McGuire: Plastics. Benjamin: Exactly how do you mean? Mr. McGuire: There's a great future in plastics. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 04:03 PM (XeU6L) 176
thing about fast food wasn't that it was less expensive, it was tasty and ready to go, and no dishes to wash or kitchen clean up. But nobody ever claimed it was cheaper than eating at home until recently. It's just weird to hear people say something like that.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:54 PM It's a lie people tell themselves to get out of cooking and dishwashing. I helped a pal sort out his receipts and figure out a budget. He discovered his grocery spending would be 25% cheaper without pre-prepared foods ... and snacks like chips and cookies. The groceries were noticeably more expensive"snacky" when his son did the shopping. Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 13, 2026 04:03 PM (ao+in) 177
FOODIE NOODIE TIME
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 04:03 PM (qEb4U) 178
Remember this moment. It might never come again your lifetime.
The New York Jets are in 1st place. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 04:04 PM (viF8m) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 04:04 PM (XeU6L) 180
In recent years suit styles have trended towards the "hand me down" look, where they appear to be a couple sizes too small. That looks unnecessarily weird to me as well.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 03:52 PM (uozx9) I have often said the best fit says, "I normally wear body armor under this" Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 04:04 PM (rbvCR) 181
Way back, the Steer In. Great burgers & fries, but busted for kangaroo meat.
Posted by: Pay or don't, your choice at September 13, 2026 04:06 PM (NFX2v) 182
Another first world problem:
I read some guide that was describing "proper male grooming." Among the gems was the ability to tie a necktie. OK, fair enough - but the author stated that the point of the necktie should just brush the top of the man's belt. WRONG! Everyone KNOWS that the point of the necktie should just brush the BOTTOM of the man's belt. I don't know how I can ever bear to go outside again. Posted by: NeighSayer at September 13, 2026 04:09 PM (bufu1) 183
Full Windsor knot or half Windsor?
Full Windsor for silk or similarly thin fabric. Reversed Half Windsor for heavier fabric. Four In Hand is for school boys. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 04:09 PM (vTZFs) 184
Full Windsor for silk or similarly thin fabric. Reversed Half Windsor for heavier fabric. Four In Hand is for school boys. Posted by: Oddbob ------- This is true.The knot chosen is dependant upon collar, and tie material. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 04:16 PM (XeU6L) 185
Easy fix. Starch your collars. Heavy starch.
Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2026 02:04 PM (5rh/l) What's a collar? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 04:55 PM (1z8ji) 186
Not that they would have been a great investment, but Rush Limbaugh No Boundaries Ties sell for good money on eBay.
Posted by: The 90s Called.. at September 13, 2026 04:56 PM (Fn+3X) 187
Laser cut your own out of metal, or have a company do it.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 06:56 PM (O7YUW) Saudi Arabia Is Stuck Between A Rock And A Hard Place...Oh Well!Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan emphasized that Saudi Arabia’s security, territorial integrity, and resources are inviolable. Addressing the 18th BRICS Summit meetings at Bharat Mandapam in New Delhi on Sunday, the foreign minister emphasized that Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states will not accept targeting of their territories or vital facilities, under any pretext or justification. Prince Faisal said that the ongoing escalation in the region is contributing to an expansion of the scope of confrontation and increasing the risks threatening regional and international security and stability. He emphasized that priority must be given to de-escalation and to paving the way for political and diplomatic efforts. Except...None of that is true. The Saudis have been unwilling to do what is necessary to end the Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia and the petroleum and other commerce that moves through the Gulf of Aden. They have punted again and again, and even in the face of attacks on Saudi Arabia itself has been curiously reticent, no doubt because they want someone else (read: the USA) to deal with the problem. They have a large active-duty armed forces, modern weaponry, and the backing of the world. Yet they can't manage to tamp down the Houthis? Why is that? First...The Saudi armed forces are long on weaponry and short on fighting spirit. Second...Saudi Arabia loves to talk and negotiate and play the typical Arab long game. But the Houthis don't do any of that. Third...The Houthis are supported by Iran, and Saudi Arabia is ambivalent about Iran. Yes, they are afraid of Iran's nuclear and regional ambitions, but direct confrontation is not in their DNA. Fourth...The Houthis are tough fighters who are good at guerilla warfare and are holed up in the mountains. Beating them requires well-trained troops and the political will to complete the job...neither of which is in evidence in KSA. And now there have been attacks from Iraq (probably on Houthi authority) on the alternative pipelines that bypass the Strait of Hormuz and send oil to the Red Sea. KSA has shut down those pipelines temporarily, but the attack sends a message that Saudi Arabia is no longer fighting on one front. Years of accommodation to the various Islamist factions, both inside and outside of Saudi Arabia has created a massive network of quasi-government actors that have no fear of KSA, and are willing to act in their own best interests, knowing that Saudi vacillation, negotiation, and ultimately settlement will protect them. And it couldn't have happened to a worse country. Remember, Saudi Arabia was the source of 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists, and there is ample evidence of internal involvement. So...man up Saudi Arabia! It's your problem, and it is my most fervent hope that President Trump tells them to deal with it, because we won't! Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Good afternoon everyone
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 12:09 PM (Ia/+0) 2
Buy popcorn
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 12:11 PM (Ia/+0) 3
Most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. As was bin-Laden. Let them suffer.
Posted by: Cosda at September 13, 2026 12:12 PM (/TnVC) 4
The Saudis have not yet mastered crowd control for the Hajj. A modern military campaign is probably well beyond their abilities.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 12:14 PM (wpRMV) 5
This is what a (bizarre analogy) Byzantine royal family creates: everyone is afraid of what another branch of the family might be up to and nobody wants the military, probably under a particular branch of the family but too lazy to do the research, to have a seat at the table. Not sure it's fighting spirit or a short leash.
Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 12:14 PM (NcvvS) 6
Something else last night Mohammed bin Salman making some kind of 'other' arrangements that undermine instituting the Abraham Accords.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:15 PM (3oLMy) 7
The saudis are fat, lazy, oversexed bastards. Half of their country's population is imported labor, tells you all you need to know about them. Peacocks. Between them and the kuwaitis, I would not piss on them if their were on fire. Saddam was right to stomp a mud hole in the kuwaitis.
Also, why have the saudis gotten away with being a monarchy all these years? It's 2026, where is the call for democracy and elections in the kingdom? Posted by: Saudis Are Dirt Bags at September 13, 2026 12:18 PM (cCXR+) 8
>>Saudi Arabia Is Stuck Between A Rock And A Hard Place...Oh Well!
Purely for humour: worked with a bunch of guys who could spit out a sarcastic 'Oh well!' with the best of them. One fine day, an older lady who worked with us, sorta, said, 'I hate it when you say 'Oh well'!' The two of us who were just outside her office looked at each other, grinned, turned to her, and said, 'OH WELL!'. She was a little pissed about it. Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 12:19 PM (NcvvS) 9
The Saudi armed forces are long on weaponry and short on fighting spirit.
Sums it up nicely. Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 12:20 PM (2WIwB) 10
One would think that the Grand Mufti might have learned a thing or two about military organization from his buddy Adolph and passed it on to his successors.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 12:22 PM (wpRMV) 11
Saudi Arabia ain't gonna do squat.
Their entire world view is to use slave labor to take care of the dirty work. Also, the Arabs are raiders and thieves. Sure, they can be fearsome when they want to be--they conquered a lot of the Middle East and North Africa at one time--but they really don't embrace the "warrior ethos" that the United States military does. (The Europeans used to have a similar ethos, but not so much any more.) Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 12:22 PM (FZ29D) 12
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“The Houthis called us, and they don’t want to fight with us,” Trump told reporters. “They don’t want us to go after them.” He added that “everything’s gonna work out fine and dandy” in the region. According to US outlet Axios, bin Salman called Trump twice on Thursday to request US strikes on the Houthis, but the American president declined. ... “They would much prefer not having us involved, and they’re letting most ships go through. There’s just one country that they’re not too happy with, and we’ll get that straightened out,” Trump said. _timesOfIsrael Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:23 PM (3oLMy) 13
I read that during the recent Houthi advance to the Red Sea in Yemen, the Saudis did not embed Saudi forward air controllers with the Yemeni government forces, rendering Saudi air power largely irrelevant. Their fancy expensive military planes just sat it out. The Saudis kill act like they really don't want to win. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 13, 2026 12:23 PM (lsrsS) 14
The Saudis will fight to the last drop of someone else's blood. Eurotrash sneer at Americans as trailer trash that won a billion dollar lottery prize. But, of course, we worked and built what we had. Without foreigners to develop anything, MENA would remain a wasteland populated by left-hand ass wipers. Posted by: Leon Trotsky at September 13, 2026 12:25 PM (eRlcH) 15
Morning all! Took alleve last night, nearly overslept, just got back from church and grocery shopping.
The Saudi armed forces are long on weaponry and short on fighting spirit. Sums it up nicely. Posted by: Diogenes Indeed. No loot, no courage. Perhaps that is too dismissive but it seems to track with history to a point. Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 13, 2026 12:25 PM (aJQbY) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:26 PM (eRlcH) 17
This is not good.. Add in the rise in fuel prices and the threatened rise in Interest rates and our Mid-term prospects are not looking too promising....
Posted by: It's me donna at September 13, 2026 12:26 PM (+gK6I) 18
The saudis are fat, lazy, oversexed bastards. Half of their country's population is imported labor, tells you all you need to know
----- Now do the U.S.A. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 12:27 PM (uozx9) 19
Can we ban the export of crude oil and force the seven sisters to build more light sweet refineries?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 12:28 PM (5Go8e) 20
17 This is not good.. Add in the rise in fuel prices and the threatened rise in Interest rates and our Mid-term prospects are not looking too promising....
Posted by: It's me donna --- Cheer up, we're winning. Don't be downa donna. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:29 PM (3oLMy) 21
Took Her Majesty to the airport this morning, then proceeded directly to church for the 8:30 Mass. Very different congregation than my usual 7:00, younger and with more kids. I actually sat up toward the front today - on a chair on the side, since I can't kneel any longer - whereas I usually sit on a bench in the back. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:29 PM (eRlcH) 22
19 Can we ban the export of crude oil and force the seven sisters to build more light sweet refineries?
Posted by: Boss Moss --- Counter productive Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:30 PM (3oLMy) 23
A new Houthi social-media campaign features fighters overlooking the strategic Bab al-Mandab Strait while threatening Saudi Arabia and boasting of control over Red Sea shipping.
One fighter declares that no Saudi ship — “not even a Saudi nail” — will pass until the siege on Yemen is lifted Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:32 PM (3oLMy) 24
I don't trust the Arabs one bit. But then I don't trust half of my own country either. And Canada is right out. At least some Mexicans are good people.
Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 12:32 PM (xJpuh) 25
BRICS is who... Brazil, Russia, Saudi Arabia, India, or something like that? Have I got that wrong?
Posted by: dantesed at September 13, 2026 12:34 PM (Oy/m2) 26
I don't trust them at all..we could do without Mecca and all it means
Posted by: night lifted at September 13, 2026 12:34 PM (kJmLc) 27
The Saudi Royal Guard is an exception, but small.
Protection >> power projection. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 12:35 PM (u82oZ) 28
BRICS is who... Brazil, Russia, Saudi Arabia, India, or something like that? Have I got that wrong? Posted by: dantesed at September 13, 2026 12:34 PM (Oy/m2) Brazil, Russia, India, China, South America. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:35 PM (eRlcH) 29
Not so easy for Iran and Saudi to get at each other.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 12:36 PM (5Go8e) 30
Sorry, South Africa. Now also includes Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, and the United Arab Emirates. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:37 PM (eRlcH) 31
The only reason Saudi Arabia mattered for decades is the geological accident that they were sitting on top of huge amounts of oil reserves. Because of fracking and other technologies we have more now than they do…. If they had any brains they’d be fighting Iran. I don’t much care if they’re uncomfortable
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 13, 2026 12:37 PM (M+uMR) Posted by: dantesed at September 13, 2026 12:37 PM (Oy/m2) 33
They are all moslems! Their favorite saying is something like, "Me and my brother against our cousin; me and my cousin against the world." Of course the saudi moslems aren't going to war with their houthi moslem brothers. They aren't going to war with their iranian moslem cousins, either. They'll let that dirty job for the infidel dogs, the kuffars, viz., us, if we're stupid enough to oblige. Bush played that game as did Obama (boy, did he ever!) and even now, Trump is going along with it to the extent necessary to smash iran. But he has seen that the saudis have no gratitude and he has scaled back his support for them.
Posted by: Steve (Retired/recovering lawyer) at September 13, 2026 12:37 PM (nq64t) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:38 PM (eRlcH) 35
Also, the Arabs are raiders and thieves. Sure, they can be fearsome when they want to be--they conquered a lot of the Middle East and North Africa at one time--but they really don't embrace the "warrior ethos" that the United States military does. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel ============== This is what puzzles me a little. Raiders and thieves may be true, but someone sure expanded from that crummy peninsula across North Africa, up the Iberian Peninsula, up the Caucasus, all over the Sasanian Empire, etc etc. They grow up learning about "the openings," with their little history books full of drawings of guys brandishing their sabers as they ride horseback. Oh well, if we're talking about the loss of some ancient fighting spirit, I could say similar things of a few European countries. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:38 PM (mmrXZ) 36
Brazil, Russia, India, China, South America.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh --- How many people were saying, BRICS were going to break the American Petro Dollar; that Benjamin would no longer be reserve currency? Boo Hoo. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:39 PM (3oLMy) 37
Above all, the Saudis, just like the rest of the Arab world, are a bunch of lazy assholes that expect everyone else to do their work for them, as has been their custom for centuries.
"Inshallah." Posted by: ballistic at September 13, 2026 12:39 PM (oqH4h) 38
>>> 28
BRICS is who... Brazil, Russia, Saudi Arabia, India, or something like that? Have I got that wrong? Posted by: dantesed at September 13, 2026 12:34 PM (Oy/m2) Brazil, Russia, India, China, South America. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:35 PM (eRlcH) South Africa iirc. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2026 12:39 PM (+fdRY) 39
Saudis foster Wahhabism, they are their own and the normals issue.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 12:40 PM (NnhvP) 40
Hello?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 12:40 PM (5Go8e) 41
Saudi Arabia is worried about their long term security and financial health?
Oh no! Anyway. Fuck them. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2026 12:41 PM (XNYK+) 42
>>>Oh well, if we're talking about the loss of some ancient fighting spirit, I could say similar things of a few European countries.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia --- It's possible that it was another group of Islamist's not Arabs. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:41 PM (3oLMy) 43
The Saudis fought the Houthis before during the civil war in Yemen that started when Obama was in office.
They launched a bunch of airstrikes, even sent in some troops at one point, IIRC. The Saudis have launched strikes against the Houthis several times over the course of this war with Iran, every time the Houthis launch missiles at Saudi oilfields, etc. The Crown Prince is worried about things getting out of hand and he’ll have to get involved in a real war instead of tit for tat rockets & missiles. Thats’s what it looks like to me, anyhow. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:42 PM (6ydKt) 44
why have the saudis gotten away with being a monarchy all these years? It's 2026, where is the call for democracy and elections in the kingdom? Posted by: Saudis Are Dirt Bags ================ There are calls, but... what do you think they (and the world) would get if there were elections? Princes elbowing each other out of the way is probably cleaner politics than what we've got in California. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:42 PM (mmrXZ) 45
.... and I'm slow.
While I think our shit-for-brains bureaucrats have overused "sanctions" and such, I also think BRIC should have left off that last letter - it sounds *so* much less impressive when you have All These Guys and then... South Africa. Really??? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2026 12:42 PM (+fdRY) 46
11 member states 10 partners. Fingers Crossed.
Member States: Brazil, China, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and the United Arab Emirates.Partner Countries: Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Thailand, Uganda, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam. Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 12:43 PM (5Go8e) 47
It's possible that it was another group of Islamist's not Arabs. Posted by: Braenyard ================ The first big expansion ended about 750. They were Arabs. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:43 PM (mmrXZ) 48
31 The only reason Saudi Arabia mattered for decades is the geological accident that they were sitting on top of huge amounts of oil reserves. Because of fracking and other technologies we have more now than they do…. If they had any brains they’d be fighting Iran. I don’t much care if they’re uncomfortable
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 13, 2026 12:37 PM (M+uMR) ------ Great point! I'd much rather our resources go to developing our petroleum industry stateside than having to go play Daddy to a bunch of tribes that have been at war with one another and with everyone else for centuries just so the monarchs can keep their private jumbo jets and cocaine/hooker habits funded. Posted by: ballistic at September 13, 2026 12:43 PM (oqH4h) 49
When you've lost Uganda.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 12:44 PM (5Go8e) 50
I see the Houthis are getting ready to become a nuisance. Ones the US Marines in theater can eradicate, esp. on that island they took over. Can we flood the area with broadband jamming? I prefer a stealth approach led by Marine Force Recon and SEALS, then get all the electronic data, Make sure there are only two survivors for rigorous interrogation, followed by removal of all our forces. Without publicity. Let the world wonder. Better that way. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 12:44 PM (u82oZ) 51
40 Hello?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 12:40 PM (5Go8e) Is it me you’re looking for? https://youtu.be/mHONNcZbwDY Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:46 PM (6ydKt) 52
How many people were saying, BRICS were going to break the American Petro Dollar; that Benjamin would no longer be reserve currency? Boo Hoo. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:39 PM (3oLMy) Brazil will never amount to anything. Russia is going down the tubes. The future of China is gloomy. A good chunk of South Africa's blacks wish the whites were still running things. Among them, only India has a chance but they have a long way to go to break through their social and moral morass. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:46 PM (eRlcH) 53
Hey Salty!
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 13, 2026 12:46 PM (Rln0i) 54
Brazil, Russia, India, China, South America. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, and the United Arab Emirates wrong south... Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 12:47 PM (NnhvP) 55
So the lifeblood of the civilized world has to either flow past the Iranians (ships) or under the Saudis (pipeline)? Now there's a predicament. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:47 PM (mmrXZ) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 12:47 PM (NnhvP) 57
wrong south... Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 13, 2026 12:47 PM (NnhvP) *huffs indignantly* I corrected it! Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:48 PM (eRlcH) 58
Resource surveys done in the 1960s showed the U.S.A. has proven reserves of coal, oil, gas, etc to last for centuries.
Why not use our own resources? The government ran out of gold by 1968 trying to defend the $35 currency peg, I think the middle east arrangements making the dollar the "reserve currency" for worldwide oil transactions, aka petrodollar was part of the deal with purchasing Saudi oil, and certain defense agreements. I think that's what Nixon and Kissinger and that gang accomplished. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 12:48 PM (uozx9) 59
Without publicity. Let the world wonder. Better that way. Posted by: NaCly Dog ================= Do we get to keep something? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:48 PM (mmrXZ) 60
Hello?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 12:40 PM (5Go8e) Is it me you’re looking for? https://youtu.be/mHONNcZbwDY Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:46 PM (6ydKt) ___ lol Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 13, 2026 12:48 PM (Rln0i) 61
The Umayyad Caliphate's forces, led by the general Tariq ibn Ziyad and later Musa ibn Nusayr, conquered most of the Iberian Peninsula in the early 8th century, establishing Muslim rule known as al-Andalus.
--- GPT-5.6Luna They were Muslims of more than one ethnic background, mainly: Berbers (Amazigh) from North Africa—Tariq ibn Ziyad, the commander who led the first major invasion in 711, was probably Berber. Arabs from the Umayyad Caliphate—Musa ibn Nusayr, Tariq’s superior, was Arab, and later reinforcements included many Arab troops. So they were not a separate religion “from Islam.” Islam was their religion; Arab and Berber described their ethnic or cultural origins. The conquest was carried out under the Arab-led Umayyad Caliphate, but a large portion of the soldiers were Berbers from North Africa. --- So it was the Berbers. Same one's our Marines fought in Tripoli. Same one's that enslaved white Europeans and Americans. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:49 PM (3oLMy) 62
Thx CBD.
You'd think that with their money the Saudis would hire a mercenary force to deal with the Houthis. Oh , wait. Would that be us? Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 13, 2026 12:49 PM (N2HNb) 63
South America, South Africa.
Tomatoes, Tomahtos. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:49 PM (6ydKt) 64
{{{Smh}}}
May you get a slightly used M-1 AFV in you front yard for Christmas. Plus needed parts and a passel of ammo. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 12:49 PM (u82oZ) 65
So the lifeblood of the civilized world has to either flow past the Iranians (ships) or under the Saudis (pipeline)? Now there's a predicament.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:47 PM (mmrXZ) Mostly the lifeblood of Europe and parts of Asia. Which both sucks for them and is a profit for oil producers that are not transiting Hormuz, the Gulf of Aden or Saudi Arabia Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 12:49 PM (rbvCR) 66
There are calls, but... what do you think they (and the world) would get if there were elections? Princes elbowing each other out of the way is probably cleaner politics than what we've got in California.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:42 PM (mmrXZ) I have no great love for the House of Saud - but it's probably one of the most well run and stable governments in the Arab World. The tribalist societies cannot manage democratic structures in any form, so the only chance of stability is some kind of autocratic regime. I think Monarchy is a bit more stable and respectable than dictatorship, such as in Algeria and Egypt. Our greatest long term mistake in Iraq and Afghanistan was convincing ourselves that the people there were capable of western political institutions. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 12:50 PM (edUvp) 67
Most Americans have no idea what that meant. One thing it has done, is give the ability for the government to "export" monetary inflation, as historically there was a huge demand for dollars outside the US, that circulate permanently outside the US. If you think inflation is bad, it would, and could, be exponentially worse.
If say, Peru wanted to purchase oil from Elbonia, they used US dollars to settle the trade. Oil was denominated in and traded or settled in US dollars. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 12:51 PM (uozx9) Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 12:51 PM (u82oZ) 69
So the lifeblood of the civilized world has to either flow past the Iranians (ships) or under the Saudis (pipeline)? Now there's a predicament.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 12:47 PM (mmrXZ) ___ It does make it easier to understand why Jesus Christ was born in the Middle East. Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 13, 2026 12:51 PM (Rln0i) 70
@68 yup, the Bushes have to keep their oil money coming
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 13, 2026 12:52 PM (N2HNb) 71
lol
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 13, 2026 12:48 PM (Rln0i) They’d put Lionel Richie in jail for stalking a blind woman today. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:52 PM (6ydKt) 72
Brazil will never amount to anything. Russia is going down the tubes. The future of China is gloomy. A good chunk of South Africa's blacks wish the whites were still running things. Among them, only India has a chance but they have a long way to go to break through their social and moral morass.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2026 12:46 PM (eRlcH) I recall someone important said decades ago that Brazil is the Great Country of the Future - and always will be. And I'll start thinking more highly of India when they finally master the Great Mysteries of modern sewage systems. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 12:52 PM (edUvp) 73
no Saudi ship — “not even a Saudi nail” — will pass until the siege on Yemen is lifted
--- That's an interesting statement. Houtis preceeded the Saudis. Is it possible that, if the Saudis left Yemen undisturbed and Iran stopped funding fools, that the Houthi problem would disappear? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:53 PM (3oLMy) 74
May you get a slightly used M-1 AFV in you front yard for Christmas. Plus needed parts and a passel of ammo.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 12:49 PM (u82oZ) ___ lol As someone who had to maintain all the test equipment just to run diagnostics on the Abrams, mush less the actual parts just for the turret alone...yeah, don't think Santa will be that generous this Christmas. But a girl can dream. Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 13, 2026 12:54 PM (Rln0i) 75
True, Saudi Arabia has a lot of influence because of the petrodollar.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:55 PM (6ydKt) 76
"Everything that guy just said is bullshit." Thank you Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinnie.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 13, 2026 12:55 PM (wxsGM) 77
They’d put Lionel Richie in jail for stalking a blind woman today.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:52 PM (6ydKt) ___ I was never a fan of the video, and that kinda tainted my view of the song, to this day. Definitely creep vibes then, and now. Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 13, 2026 12:55 PM (Rln0i) 78
And I'll start thinking more highly of India when they finally master the Great Mysteries of modern sewage systems.
Posted by: Tom Servo --- Interesting country; it's got 2 official languages 2 unofficial languages and 23 other languages. It wasn't a country until Britain got hold of it. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:56 PM (3oLMy) 79
I suspect Trump is going to slow walk any move by the US to do anything about the Houthi. What they have done is a huge problem for Europe and the Saudi's, but not so much for the US. And they're supposedly trying to damage Israel, and it doesn't hurt them at all.
I think Trump has been pretty pissed at the way the Saudi's to set their obviously worthless Mecca Accord with Turkey and Pakistan, while ignoring the Abraham Accord that Trump was trying to get them to sign on to. Well, now they can twist in the wind and ponder the error of their ways while Trump kicks back and whistles dixie. And the pain that the Euro's are going to feel is just sweet icing on the cake. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 12:57 PM (edUvp) 80
@44. "Cleaner politics than we have in California."
Any politics anywhere is cleaner than California. That whole state needs to be in jail Posted by: Case at September 13, 2026 12:57 PM (xJpuh) 81
Interesting country; it's got 2 official languages 2 unofficial languages and 23 other languages. It wasn't a country until Britain got hold of it.
---------- Alexander would have whipped it into shape had he lived longer. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2026 12:58 PM (wpRMV) 82
I was never a fan of the video, and that kinda tainted my view of the song, to this day.
Definitely creep vibes then, and now. Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 13, 2026 12:55 PM (Rln0i) I liked Lionel, and the Commodores. It is a nice little love song, but that video was weird to me even as a kid. Dancing on the Ceiling was much better. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:59 PM (6ydKt) 83
We've already made a deal to let all of the somali pirates into our country, maybe we should make a deal with the Houthi and give them a stake in wisconsin. Democrats could make that happen.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 13, 2026 12:59 PM (5C90x) 84
Tom Servo
Only the Polish have a large enough military to win against the Houthi's, even for the island in the Red Sea. Alas, the entire EU does not have enough lift and logistics to move against north Yemen. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 01:01 PM (u82oZ) 85
The Crown Prince is worried about things getting out of hand and he’ll have to get involved in a real war instead of tit for tat rockets & missiles.
Thats’s what it looks like to me, anyhow. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 12:42 PM (6ydKt) It's commonly said that the Monarchy loves to buy fancy weapons and to create a palace guard that looks great on paper, but they're terrified of actually creating an effective Army. Because a talented general with a truly effective army could sweep away the Monarchy in an afternoon. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:01 PM (edUvp) 86
Why not use our own resources? The government ran out of gold by 1968 trying to defend the $35 currency peg, I think the middle east arrangements making the dollar the "reserve currency" for worldwide oil transactions, aka petrodollar was part of the deal with purchasing Saudi oil, and certain defense agreements. I think that's what Nixon and Kissinger and that gang accomplished.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 12:48 PM (uozx9) Yes, that was the agreement that allowed the end of Bretton-Woods agreement. It moved the collateralization of international trade from Gold to debt backed by the industrial capacity and ability to pay back debt by the US economy. Note, if Bulgaria or Burma had tried this it would not have worked since no one thinks the Rupee or Dinar had any real support. The Petro-Dollar is faltering because foreign exchange is getting so fast and complicated the current Dollar system is not settling debts fast enough through central nodes. The chances are that there will be the stablecoin that everyone is predicting, backed probably by Treasuries and Bitcoin, but all on chain and worked peer to peer Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 01:01 PM (rbvCR) 87
I think Trump has been pretty pissed at the way the Saudi's to set their obviously worthless Mecca Accord with Turkey and Pakistan, while ignoring the Abraham Accord that Trump was trying to get them to sign on to. Well, now they can twist in the wind and ponder the error of their ways while Trump kicks back and whistles dixie. And the pain that the Euro's are going to feel is just sweet icing on the cake.
Posted by: Tom Servo --- It's almost as if gamed a probability. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:01 PM (3oLMy) 88
Reminds me of the circa 1990 joke: What is the name of the Saudi battle anthem? "Onward Christian Soldiers."
Posted by: PabloD at September 13, 2026 01:02 PM (B7yLN) 89
Well, now they can twist in the wind and ponder the error of their ways while Trump kicks back and whistles dixie. And the pain that the Euro's are going to feel is just sweet icing on the cake.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 12:57 PM (edUvp) I think you’re right. Trump is taking names over Iran and the way countries are reacting. That pact with Turkey, KSA, and Pakistan came out of nowhere. I wonder if it’s worth anything or just a statement piece. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:03 PM (6ydKt) 90
Only the Polish have a large enough military to win against the Houthi's, even for the island in the Red Sea.
Alas, the entire EU does not have enough lift and logistics to move against north Yemen. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 01:01 PM (u82oZ) For all of Yemen, yes. But islands are easier - you cannot carpet bomb an entire country, but one island - not that difficult to erase everything on it and cut all supplies. It's a similar situation to Hormuz; in both cases I think it's a solvable problem to open the water way without having to completely take over the offending country. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:03 PM (edUvp) 91
We've already made a deal to let all of the somali pirates into our country, maybe we should make a deal with the Houthi and give them a stake in wisconsin. Democrats could make that happen.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 13, 2026 12:59 PM (5C90x) Send both to China. I hear they like Muslims. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 13, 2026 01:04 PM (qx7Zg) 92
Our greatest long term mistake in Iraq and Afghanistan was convincing ourselves that the people there were capable of western political institutions.
Posted by: Tom Servo Don't include me in your definition of "our". Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 13, 2026 01:04 PM (Fv808) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:05 PM (3oLMy) 94
That pact with Turkey, KSA, and Pakistan came out of nowhere. I wonder if it’s worth anything or just a statement piece.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:03 PM (6ydKt) Over the last 3 days, Turkey and Pakistan to the Saudi's - "Yeah, I know we said we would support you militarily, but we didn't mean Militarily!" Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:05 PM (edUvp) 95
At mu parents again, sister and niece are here too
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 01:05 PM (qEb4U) 96
All of Yeman is like the Forbidden Zone from the Planet of the Apes.
Nuke it and no one will miss them. Posted by: General Urko, Chief Of Security at September 13, 2026 01:05 PM (cCXR+) 97
Don't include me in your definition of "our".
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 13, 2026 01:04 PM (Fv80 It would have been more accurate if I said "cultures". Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:05 PM (edUvp) 98
Don't include me in your definition of "our".
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal --- You are American, gringo. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:06 PM (3oLMy) 99
Because a talented general with a truly effective army could sweep away the Monarchy in an afternoon.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:01 PM (edUvp) I guess that’s why you get a lot of prince’s playing general & admiral, too. I don’t know much about MBS but he doesn’t seem like the army type. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:06 PM (6ydKt) 100
If say, Peru wanted to purchase oil from Elbonia, they used US dollars to settle the trade. Oil was denominated in and traded or settled in US dollars.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 12:51 PM (uozx9) The nicest thing about it is that the two countries don't have to settle in either their own currency, which has a cost because one or both of them will generate foreign exchange costs converting it to useful currency, or have to trade into a third party currency to settle the debts. Everyone has Dollar reserves. There is still "friction" in settling, and that is an extra accounting cost. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 01:06 PM (rbvCR) 101
A complete aside to the thread topic, if the date in the IMDB.com database is correct, Barbara Bain is celebrating her 95th birthday today.
Congrats, Cinnamon Carter and Dr. Helena Russell. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 13, 2026 01:07 PM (iIyc0) 102
One thing I'm not smart enough to figure out is if, or when all those petrodollars could somehow return to the U.S.A. competing for goods and services. They've been deficit borrowing and spending since the early 1970s. That's a long time. If that happens, katy bar the door. Can you afford $300 a pound for coffee? I can't.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 01:08 PM (uozx9) 103
Tom Servo
Even for an island. The Brits have SBS, Royal Marines, but no lift. Same with the French, Polish, and Italians. They need a nearby base for staging. I say Djibouti is not a solution. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 01:08 PM (u82oZ) 104
Over the last 3 days, Turkey and Pakistan to the Saudi's - "Yeah, I know we said we would support you militarily, but we didn't mean Militarily!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:05 PM (edUvp) “Sorry! Look in the fine print under ‘Grace Period’. We have until 2030 until we have to actually help you. See if you can get Trump to help.” Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:09 PM (6ydKt) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 01:12 PM (k5CNB) 106
Even for an island. The Brits have SBS, Royal Marines, but no lift. Same with the French, Polish, and Italians. They need a nearby base for staging. I say Djibouti is not a solution.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 01:08 PM (u82oZ) Isn't Djibouti run by Sheik Yerbouti? Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:12 PM (edUvp) 107
Victory has a million mothers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 13, 2026 01:12 PM (Cqx++) 108
See if you can get Trump to help.”
Posted by: SpeakingOf --- The Houthis actually called Trump on the phone and asked him not to interfere. We haven't. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:12 PM (3oLMy) 109
The nicest thing about it is that the two countries don't have to settle in either their own currency
----- It's "nice" for US politicians, which for the most part have no idea how any of this works. They think this "exorbitant privilege" will last forever, and/or there are no limits. There's a reason they felt comfortable allocating millions to interpretive transexual dance lessons to Peruvian farmers. There is no way even a tenth of all this financial jiggery-pokery would have been possible over the years without the dollar reserve currency status. That which can't go on won't, but ... it's taking longer than we thought. When it all goes Tango Uniform it will likely be overnight, or at least "slowly at first, then all at once." Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 01:12 PM (uozx9) 110
Djibouti may not be a solution but it sure is fun to say under the right circumstances.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:13 PM (6ydKt) 111
The lazy, dirty, corrupt Oil Ticks can go squeeze a breeze. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest their concubines!
Posted by: Next Generation Carnac at September 13, 2026 01:13 PM (Fn+3X) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:14 PM (3oLMy) 113
Fracking has been a game changer for Geopolitics, no?
George P. Mitchell is the Father of Fracking. Few Americans know of him. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 13, 2026 01:14 PM (fYaXJ) 114
The Chines have a base near to it. Let the Chines face off against the Muslims.
It’s not like the Chinese are getting a lot of oil from Iran anymore. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 01:14 PM (u82oZ) 115
Ok, that's enough rain.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 01:15 PM (viF8m) 116
“The Chines,” is about as much respect as I can muster.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 13, 2026 01:16 PM (wxsGM) 117
George P. Mitchell is the Father of Fracking. Few Americans know of him.
Posted by: Ignoramus --- Subdivided the land where Exxon's campus resides. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:16 PM (3oLMy) 118
We don't need oil. We ride the bus!
Posted by: Hary Tattooed Hipster Doofus at September 13, 2026 01:16 PM (Fn+3X) 119
Headline (Just The News):
"New York Gov. Hochul's pardon ends Supreme Court case concerning bond rights for noncitizens" Hochul pardoned a felon just as the US Supreme Court was about to hold a hearing on the case. Excerpt: "In late August, Hochul pardoned Keisy Guerrero Mariano, who had pleaded guilty to second-degree assault, a felony. Mariano was identified in court documents as "Keisy GM."" Hochul hates her own subjects, and uses her pardon powers to prevent the extradition of illegal felons. Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2026 01:17 PM (rj6Yv) 120
What a rancid wench
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 01:19 PM (uozx9) 121
I left and did a load of laundry.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:19 PM (5Go8e) 122
They need allies. Know anybody?
Posted by: Eromero at September 13, 2026 01:20 PM (DXbAa) Posted by: mikeski at September 13, 2026 01:20 PM (VHUov) 124
When it all goes Tango Uniform it will likely be overnight, or at least "slowly at first, then all at once."
--- The machines will stop running, the pumps will stop pumping We're All Going to Die! Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:20 PM (3oLMy) 125
The Houthis actually called Trump on the phone and asked him not to interfere. We haven't.
Posted by: Braenyard We called him and asked him to keep not doing what he's already not doing, and he's still not doing it. We're somebody! We're really somebody! Posted by: The Houthis at September 13, 2026 01:21 PM (VHUov) 126
None of the good countries joined BRICS.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:21 PM (5Go8e) 127
Saudi called Trump and asked for immediate military help. Trump listened carefully...and sent half a dozen of advisors. lolol . BTW , what happened to the Arab NATO? ? the usual ?
Posted by: runner at September 13, 2026 01:21 PM (AKptf) 128
What about Turkiyay or whatever they call themselves? Didn't they, the pakis and Saudis just sign a blood-oath alliance to the death to defend each other? Posted by: Auspex at September 13, 2026 01:22 PM (Y8DZL) 129
*huffs indignantly*
I corrected it! It's just a know problem with a half-duplex, high latency comms channel. Packets get out of order. Posted by: Oddbob at September 13, 2026 01:23 PM (vTZFs) 130
That which can't go on won't, but ... it's taking longer than we thought. When it all goes Tango Uniform it will likely be overnight, or at least "slowly at first, then all at once."
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 01:12 PM (uozx9) Well, the globalists would like to fall back on the Euro or Yuan, but they’re both up to their necks in debt, too, along with the UK and Japan. Eventually something will happen, war, debt collapse, hyperinflation, that will give them the chance to make an international currency, or at the least a new currency backed by the world bank, UN, and all the other acronyms. Like the BANCOR that Keynes wanted after WWII that was ignored in favor of the dollar. It’s not always good to be the reserve currency. It requires taking on debt, trade deficits, and inflation, to an extent, to be the reserve currency. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:23 PM (6ydKt) 131
They were training Egyptians Saudis etc how to use the good weapons back in the early 90s.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:24 PM (5Go8e) 132
127 Saudi called Trump and asked for immediate military help. Trump listened carefully...and sent half a dozen of advisors. lolol . BTW , what happened to the Arab NATO? ? the usual ?
Posted by: runner at September 13, 2026 01:21 PM (AKptf) It's really quite comical how the final scene in Lawrence of Arabia, where the Muslims try to unite and collapse into complete incompetence and chaos, is replayed in real life over and over again. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:24 PM (edUvp) 133
Didn't they, the pakis and Saudis just sign a blood-oath alliance to the death to defend each other?
Posted by: Auspex at September 13, 2026 01:22 PM (Y8DZL) Somebody wanted to change a comma into a semi-comma and so they had to renegotiate the whole deal. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 01:24 PM (rbvCR) 134
The King and the Kingdom have proven they are less than worthless.
They will stab us in the back the minute it serves their interest. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 01:24 PM (RIvkX) 135
I usually ask " who is this we your talking about?"
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 01:25 PM (qEb4U) 136
Mecca should have been glassed September 12, 2001.
Our world today would be more peaceful and stable. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 01:25 PM (RIvkX) 137
It's really quite comical how the final scene in Lawrence of Arabia, where the Muslims try to unite and collapse into complete incompetence and chaos, is replayed in real life over and over again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:24 PM (edUvp) That film is brilliant. Posted by: runner at September 13, 2026 01:26 PM (AKptf) 138
Saw where Trump is asking the Ukes not to go after diesel refineries. When Russian tractors can't run and the harvest rots in the field shits' gonna get real. Posted by: Auspex at September 13, 2026 01:26 PM (Y8DZL) 139
Tariff grain exports.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:27 PM (5Go8e) 140
Can a governor pardon a felon? I guess if she says so.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 01:28 PM (MWfyi) 141
They will stab us in the back the minute it serves their interest.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 01:24 PM (RIvkX) Yes, Alex, "What is an Arab?" Alex: "Correct! For $400!" Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:28 PM (edUvp) 142
The Bedouin are basically nomadic, sand, pirates, so it’s to be expected.
That they’re sitting on some of the richest oil fields on the planet was either Allah’s blessing or God’s biggest joke on the rest of us. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:29 PM (6ydKt) 143
Counter productive
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:30 PM (3oLMy) Should be possible to get a gallon or two of Diesel out of every Houthi you render down. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:30 PM (1z8ji) 144
Arab is also a verb.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:31 PM (5Go8e) 145
Saw where Trump is asking the Ukes not to go after diesel refineries.
When Russian tractors can't run and the harvest rots in the field shits' gonna get real. Posted by: Auspex at September 13, 2026 01:26 PM (Y8DZL) === It's impacting world prices. Russia is not the one with burned out fields, rotting harvests, bombed out cities and collapsed capital, begging for a frontline freeze (reject by Russia at the moment, until they get certain guarantees..) Posted by: runner at September 13, 2026 01:31 PM (AKptf) 146
fd
For state charges. ICE can still export his sorry ass. Gov H’s move was to stop an adverse legal ruling in the SC. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 01:31 PM (u82oZ) 147
"You are a silly people." - T. E. Lawrence
Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 13, 2026 01:31 PM (36x1j) 148
Any serious or sustained conflict will wipe away the Saudi and Hashemite dynasties, and those states will become Syria writ large. Violent, tribal, fractured, and perpetually mired in internal squabbles.
Sounds like a win to me. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 01:33 PM (RIvkX) 149
You gotta be quick with the diesel extraction because those Houthis spoil easy under the desert sun.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:33 PM (6ydKt) 150
Fat chance the Brits or French staging out of Israel.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:14 PM (3oLMy) Public vs. private contact is very different. Israel provides a huge amount of intelligence to UK and France. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 13, 2026 01:34 PM (k5CNB) 151
It's really quite comical how the final scene in Lawrence of Arabia, where the Muslims try to unite and collapse into complete incompetence and chaos, is replayed in real life over and over again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:24 PM (edUvp) That film is brilliant. Posted by: runner at September 13, 2026 01:26 PM (AKptf) ==== It reminds me of the final scene in Network with the communists arguing over shares and ratings. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 01:35 PM (RIvkX) 152
Diesel $6/Gallon.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:36 PM (5Go8e) 153
I thought it was against AoS style guide to use the word ‘intelligence’ in the same sentence as UK and France?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:37 PM (6ydKt) 154
"Djibouti may not be a solution but it sure is fun to say under the right circumstances.
Posted by: SpeakingOf " ******** The right circumstance is not being stuck in Djibouti. Posted by: Cosda at September 13, 2026 01:38 PM (kPZ+a) 155
With Islam everything is Allah's will. No matter how incompetent they are or how much they eff up, it was Allah's will, not their fault. And that is why Islamic nations governments and economies are ridiculous
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 13, 2026 01:39 PM (N2HNb) 156
Britain, France are headed to tje Caliphate. Best not to rustle those feathers until then. Certainly know not to arouse them any more.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 01:39 PM (qEb4U) 157
It reminds me of the final scene in Network with the communists arguing over shares and ratings.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 01:35 PM (RIvkX) I love that movie. The big. bad, Black Panther discussing contract terms while chowing down on a bucket of KFC is so perfect I laugh every time. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:39 PM (6ydKt) 158
Is the east west pipeline attack a big deal?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:41 PM (5Go8e) 159
Mecca should have been glassed September 12, 2001.
Our world today would be more peaceful and stable. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 01:25 PM (RIvkX) True, that. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:42 PM (1z8ji) 160
The right circumstance is not being stuck in Djibouti.
Posted by: Cosda at September 13, 2026 01:38 PM (kPZ+a) I’m sure they have petroleum based lubricants in Djibouti. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (6ydKt) 161
TodayIn Article Audio Player US President Donald Trump on Sunday said he had warned Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stop "knocking out" diesel refineries in Russia because it was causing shortages and "hurting the world."
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (3oLMy) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (XeU6L) 163
Rock? What rock?
Posted by: The Response at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (MWfyi) 164
3% decrease in world supply, 30% increase in price...interesting
Posted by: runner at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (AKptf) 165
They could have tested the Hydrogen Bomb.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (5Go8e) 166
I can't believe I'm saying this but 60 Minutes might be worth watching tonight. One of the pilots shot down over Iran who was on the run for 2 days before being rescued is being interviewed.
Sounds like an incredible story. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (viF8m) 167
Regular gas is $5.99/gal. in my suburb outside of Seattle. Had an errand about 18 miles away where I managed to fill up at $5.62/gal. Of course a large share of the price is caused by this state's sky high fuel taxes on top of a ridiculous "carbon auction" system, requiring companies that generate carbon emissions to bid periodically for the right to stay in business, and then they have to recoup what they paid by raising prices. Insane.
Posted by: Fritz at September 13, 2026 01:44 PM (J7jo9) 168
They call that price elasticity I believe.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:44 PM (5Go8e) 169
Lawrence died riding a JAP motorcycle.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (XeU6L) A Brough Superior, IIRC, which had a JAP engine. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:44 PM (1z8ji) 170
Still $4.00 here.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 01:45 PM (5Go8e) 171
Lawrence died riding a JAP motorcycle.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 01:43 PM (XeU6L) Most peculiar accident... Posted by: UK Security establishment at September 13, 2026 01:45 PM (AKptf) 172
I read that 80% of the defenders were ghost soldiers. They drew Saudi paychecks but did not in fact exist.
Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at September 13, 2026 01:46 PM (UgMJ2) 173
Dude 44 Bravo
Posted by: runner at September 13, 2026 01:46 PM (AKptf) 174
I love that movie. 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' [scenes of TV's being thrown out of windows] Posted by: Howard Beale at September 13, 2026 01:46 PM (XeU6L) 175
I feel for you guys.
Regular gas is still around $3.85 here. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:47 PM (6ydKt) 176
A Brough Superior, IIRC, which had a JAP engine. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ------- Yup, I know...but it was as close to a pithy remark that I could conjure up. Posted by: Howard Beale at September 13, 2026 01:48 PM (XeU6L) 177
OOOOOooooops /Beale
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 01:48 PM (XeU6L) 178
The Saudi's military is an upside down pyramid, top heavy with brass and short on anything approaching front line troops.
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at September 13, 2026 01:49 PM (Q/FnY) 179
60 Propaganda Minutes will still turn it into a damn he got away story
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 01:49 PM (qEb4U) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:51 PM (3oLMy) 181
AOP - Have you finished with the Cu salvage?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 01:51 PM (XeU6L) 182
I see the Houthis are getting ready to become a nuisance. Ones the US Marines in theater can eradicate, esp. on that island they took over.
Can we flood the area with broadband jamming? I prefer a stealth approach led by Marine Force Recon and SEALS, then get all the electronic data, Make sure there are only two survivors for rigorous interrogation, followed by removal of all our forces. Without publicity. Let the world wonder. Better that way. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 12:44 PM (u82oZ) This is the way. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 13, 2026 01:51 PM (S41Gd) 183
Well, I'm going to go outside and play with cars, and maybe mow a patch of weeds. I got the ingredients for stew in the slow cooker, so tonight's dinner will be yummy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:52 PM (1z8ji) 184
gasoline - $3.69 here
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 01:52 PM (XeU6L) 185
Network was like a satirical prophecy.
It made fun of the hypocrisy of left-wingers greedy for cash and fame combined with the ruthless capitalism that had gone international in scope along with a severe critique on television itself and how it had only just begun in the insanity it would foist upon America, while selling us everything we’d ever need or want the entire time. I’ve watched in several times, over the years, for a reason. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:53 PM (6ydKt) 186
AOP - Have you finished with the Cu salvage?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 01:51 PM (XeU6L) Done for the time being. Got $295 for the last tranche. I still have a large number of copper-bearing devices that could be rendered, but I did all the ones that were gathered up. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:54 PM (1z8ji) 187
3.19 in Houston
Posted by: MAC V SOG at September 13, 2026 01:55 PM (P4Pk9) 188
I can't believe I'm saying this but 60 Minutes might be worth watching tonight. One of the pilots shot down over Iran who was on the run for 2 days before being rescued is being interviewed. Sounds like an incredible story. Posted by: JackStraw ================= With Bari Weiss at the helm, 60 Minutes might improve. But I'd like to know who the top reporter is on that story. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 13, 2026 01:56 PM (mmrXZ) 189
Gasoline is $1.55 loonies per liter, here. Works out to about $4.33 USD per U.S. gallon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:57 PM (1z8ji) 190
I was in the oil bidness when we hit 30.00
That would be over a hundred today Posted by: MAC V SOG at September 13, 2026 01:57 PM (P4Pk9) 191
155 With Islam everything is Allah's will. No matter how incompetent they are or how much they eff up, it was Allah's will, not their fault. And that is why Islamic nations governments and economies are ridiculous Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 13, 2026 01:39 PM (N2HNb) This is also why, whenever a Muslim army starts to believe the battle is going against them and that Allah’s will is for them to lose, they will all shuck off their uniforms, put on civilian clothes, and run away as fast as they can. I suspect a lot of that has been going on in the areas that the Houthi are overrunning. It’s what happened to Assad’s army at the end. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 01:58 PM (MQIju) 192
All of the Gulf Arab Oil States believe that is better that their armed forces are seen as unbeatable on paper, though untested, than tested and exposed as paper tigers for all to see.
Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2026 01:58 PM (5rh/l) 193
being stuck in Djibouti."
Sounds.... well, you know. As for the Saudis - that's part of a severely tribal area with borders overlaid by the Brits. Expecting any to act as a nation state is just stupid. Posted by: man at September 13, 2026 01:58 PM (pfXMo) 194
189 Gasoline is $1.55 loonies per liter, here. Works out to about $4.33 USD per U.S. gallon.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:57 PM (1z8ji) How much of that is Federal & Provincial taxes? Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 01:58 PM (6ydKt) 195
Been $4,60, some have cheaper or cash only
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 01:59 PM (qEb4U) 196
A blind clock finds an acorn twice a day.
Bill Maher @billmaher The prevailing view of so much of the young left in America is that we’re the worst country ever, so if someone attacks us, they can’t be all bad. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 02:00 PM (ndZc7) 197
In reality, Yemen isn't even a nation and even in the superficial sense it hasn't been for more than 30 years, remember, they are the fuckers who sank the Cole. FUCK Yemen, and Fuck Saudi for keeping them as they exist filled with terrorists and being used as a training ground against a weak "government" fighting to hold it's little bit of graft in place. The "civil war"/tribal combat between sand monkey mother fucking piece of shit followers of a pedophile has been extended for so long and it only serves 3 purposes. To train terrorists, to give western lefties a call for the attrocities of war (pretty much every lefty mentioned Yemen as an example until october 7th) and to sop to Iran.
Fuck Yemen. At ANY time, the Houthi's could be shut down, the idea of "the mountains" is bullshith. because what gives the Houthi's standing is their coastal hold, and the fact that they have about 2/3's of the fucking nation. It's EASY to kill them, nobody does it. The US's participation in that ended after GW didn't fucking crush them after the cole, it's up to them, but Saudi could walk in with little effort and fucking crush them, but they are cowards like all of their ilk. Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:02 PM (cZv+N) 198
If Saudi does nothing? They just continue to show their colors. Yellow and red, cowardice and betrayal.
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:02 PM (cZv+N) 199
For those who even paid attention in history class all they heard about was everything America has done wrong,
The culture itself has reinforced that image for their entire living memory. It’s not surprising the younger generation aren’t as patriotic, it’s unpopular in a lot of circles to be. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 02:05 PM (6ydKt) 200
Toss in, that the inbreaders and the rest of the world of cowards are the only ones suffering, I don't give a fuck. In the US you (I live in Australia, fuel is expensive) are paying more for gas, but you know what? You got it, and we (I'm still pretty fucking American) can pay a little extra, just look at your fucking sushi bill, to get to work, where we make things, like PETROLEUM PRODUCTS at a rate far more efficient, cleaner and without concern if some tribal cunts want to step on our heal.
Fuckem. I used to be an LIB when it came to US politics, now I'm FUCKEM when it comes to international politics. Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:07 PM (cZv+N) 201
Done for the time being. Got $295 for the last tranche.
---- Hmm. So, (?) ~ 600lbs.? Lotta copper. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 02:10 PM (XeU6L) 202
In the 60s Nasser of Egypt used poison gas in Yemen. Hmmm
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 13, 2026 02:10 PM (N2HNb) 203
wickedpinto, it may be that having that threat poised on a major choke-point ready to spin up in case anything gets too calm or collected in another area is too good of a deal to do anything about it.
There are accusations that Lloyds' of London and the City of London banks prefer seeing things like that in reserve in case a crisis is needed for some reason. Of course that would require the mindset that this is a crisis fomented for money, share prices and international influence, and not one for liberation, autonomy and self defense in a far-off land. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:10 PM (rbvCR) 204
Speakingof:
I've had conversations with Australians about this, concerning how devoutly American I am, and I ask the most simple question, "How many people do you know in the military?" (to the Australians.) VERY FEW people even KNOW a single person who has ever served, EVER and they have to reach back to their grandparents in a lot of cases. The complete isolation of service away from the populace is a MAJOR measure in that I believe. Every Man on my fathers side of the family who wasn't gay served, every man who married into my mothers side of the family served. Service isn't in my blood, it's in the blood of most everyone I ever grew up with. Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:11 PM (cZv+N) 205
OK, OK, so I may watch the Harry Potter reboot.
“Matrix” Director Lilly Wachowski Accuses “Harry Potter” Fans of “Supporting Trans Genocide” Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 02:11 PM (ndZc7) 206
Kindltot, the DEUCE YOU SAY!
LLoyds might be the ones REALLY manipulating oil prices? I shall Shat myself upon any information that might prove that, brb I have to change my pants. Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:13 PM (cZv+N) 207
How much of that is Federal & Provincial taxes? Posted by: SpeakingOf ------- FWIW: Gas Taxes by State, 2026 https://tinyurl.com/4hcnfc38 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 02:14 PM (XeU6L) 208
Anonosaurus wrecks, I will watch it when it starts. I can't speak for the kids, but they look the part, as for everyone else, the acting is there, that's the big problem with the stunt casting of black snape, he seems like a decent actor, just in THE WRONG FUCKING PART!
It's like casting Christopher Walken as Kitty Pride. Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:14 PM (cZv+N) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 02:16 PM (ndZc7) 210
LLoyds might be the ones REALLY manipulating oil prices? I shall Shat myself upon any information that might prove that, brb I have to change my pants.
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:13 PM (cZv+N) Everyone knows oil prices are manipulated by the Chinese and OPEC! The number of people willing to call me a paranoid fool for believing this of Lloyds' and the City of London is up there with the number of people who think I am a paranoid and delusional fool for thinking that Churchill was trying to get FDR to cover the Bank of England's expected default after the end of WWII. Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:18 PM (rbvCR) 211
the big problem with the stunt casting of black snape, he seems like a decent actor, just in THE WRONG FUCKING PART!
- Could've been Eliot Page. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 02:18 PM (ndZc7) 212
Christopher Walken has phrasing ability, maybe that is enough?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 13, 2026 02:19 PM (rbvCR) 213
Don't have HBO but a black Snape being bullied by Harry's father is going to be "problematic"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 13, 2026 02:19 PM (N2HNb) 214
My father was in the Army along with a brother of his, and another brother was in the Air Force.
The older brother in the Army was in Korea and Vietnam, and rose to Sgt. Major. I guess here now it depends on where you live as to how many know military veterans. A lot more veterans from the South and Mid-West and flyover country than the bluer areas on the map. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 02:22 PM (6ydKt) 215
I lived in Saudi decades ago as an advisor. One of the primary reasons their military is basically worthless is Inshallah. It's essentially an attitude that translates to "I don't give a shit" because anything that happens is god's will so I don't really need to lift a finger...or be diligent or care, about anything.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 13, 2026 02:23 PM (FMZSx) 216
The left are always whining.
Left-Handed iPhone Users Raise Discrimination Concerns Over Foldable Models Designed for Right-Handers Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 02:24 PM (ndZc7) 217
First world problems are later on today.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 02:27 PM (6ydKt) 218
Of course that would require the mindset that this is a crisis fomented for money, share prices and international influence, and not one for liberation, autonomy and self defense in a far-off land.
Posted by: Kindltot --- This lady get it This is the second time mentioned (before Kindltot) a transfer from a British, rules based system, to an American production system. Never heard of a British rules based system or that we were following it. Anyway, it’s a clear and clean presentation. https://tinyurl.com/c734478h Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 02:27 PM (3oLMy) Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 02:29 PM (6ydKt) 220
"About 50% of RA(Regular Army) recruits come from the following ten states:
Texas (13.5%) Florida (10.0%) California (10.0%) Georgia (5.4%) New York (4.5%) North Carolina (4.3%) Virginia (3.1%) Ohio (2.7%) Illinois (2.6%) Arizona (2.4%)" Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2026 02:33 PM (XeU6L) 221
@chairborne
I saw a "documentary," back in '95 about, I forget the name of the town on the border of Iraq and Saudi during the first Iraq war, it was the first time we lost troops in a measureable number and it was the town where we had an F-15 get damaged and it had to limp back home, I think that was a friendly fire. Anyway, in the docu it was about what a complete shit show the situation was for such a small target when they were talking to the US guys, and then you go to the Saudi's "It was the first time we took part in the conflict and it showed we can fight." FUCK YOU Cousin Fucker, FUCK YOU! You make things worse all around. I am not a bigot, You are inferior, I FUCKING am not going to allow kindness to interfere with my expressions anymore. I'm old, I'll be dead before long, don't have the energy to waste lying. Fuck Africa, Fuck all the cousin and sister fuckers and brother marry'ers, and fuck the outright bigoted without reason racially superior asians. And FUCK the Fey ass bitches in Europe who keep getting into fights with eachother because it's always a slap fight and a strongly worded letter. FUCKEM. The FUCKEM Party. Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 02:34 PM (cZv+N) 222
Left-Handed iPhone Users Raise Discrimination Concerns Over Foldable Models Designed for Right-Handers
---- It does all sound rather sinister Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 02:51 PM (uozx9) 223
Did I just burn the thread?
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 13, 2026 03:27 PM (cZv+N) 224
Saudi Arabia never punished any of the people who financed 9/11
Saudi Arabia never punished any of the people who financed the Dunni who killed many US military in Iraq. But because of their oil Trump kisses their anus on command Posted by: Paul at September 13, 2026 03:57 PM (hN/JE) 225
223 Did I just burn the thread?
Posted by: wickedpinto no, that smell of burning offal is just Paul again. Posted by: 88C+u at September 13, 2026 04:03 PM (88C+u) 226
Regular gas is $5.99/gal. in my suburb outside of Seattle. Had an errand about 18 miles away where I managed to fill up at $5.62/gal. Of course a large share of the price is caused by this state's sky high fuel taxes on top of a ridiculous "carbon auction" system, requiring companies that generate carbon emissions to bid periodically for the right to stay in business, and then they have to recoup what they paid by raising prices. Insane.
Posted by: Fritz at September 13, 2026 01:44 PM (J7jo9) $4.35 today at local Quick Check. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 13, 2026 04:56 PM (hmYU4) 227
When did the purchasing of mercenaries stop? I mean, if they don't have the cajones ( and it seems they do not ) to take care of the houthis, then buy someone who does.
They don't even seem to have the stones to do that. The best thing they could do would be to hire israel to do it and sell them a bunch of land. Maybe sell israel the southern corner at the gulf of Aqaba. Posted by: dude1394 at September 13, 2026 05:09 PM (Q0olq) 228
Several years ago, my brother trained with Saudi pilots in F-16's. After one KSA pilot made a hard landing, he responded to criticism by saying it was "God's Will" that he landed hard.... the follow up criticism was: "if you had pulled back more in the throttle before landing, it would have been god's will for you to not have a hard landing...". That summed up the KSA military's attitude....."It's not my fault!"
Posted by: Awp at September 13, 2026 06:38 PM (KrNDS) Sunday Morning Book Thread 9-13-2026 [Sabrina Chase]
Writers have lots of ideas. Ideas are cheap and plentiful. Ideas that we think we can write a good story about in the time available are...less so. The non-writing public, not seeing the whining and crying and hair-pulling we do at the computer, think it is just sitting back and thinking Big Thinks and fame and fortune arrive by cargo ship. I have performed as a Tame Writer for high school English classes, and it is all very well to see a real breathing person who has written a book. That gets me polite interest. But what gets them enthused is when I demonstrate, right there in front of them, how to get a story idea. What I usually do is ask them to give me three nouns. Any nouns. And then I show them the brainstorming process that gets me to a narrative that holds together as a story, including tossing out the first or even second idea, because if it was easy for me to think of then someone has probably already done it and better than I can. No, I want the unusual, oh yeah that's Sabrina for you story! One I remember went like this: Nouns: Seahawks, Spongebob Squarepants, and Paris (the kids were giggling with glee when they came up with these too) What I came up with: The NFL has decreed that all team mascots must be real things, and if they are not the team merchandise will be immediately confiscated resulting in mass nudity in Seattle, because nobody has seen a Seahawk! But to the rescue comes the Cousteau society (based in Paris) seeking a mysterious being named Spongebob Squarepants and very knowledgeable about sea life, who can find an actual Seahawk to prove it is real! They thought this was hilarious. That said, I don't usually come up with my book ideas with the three-noun method. It's more of a writing exercise to get the writer out of the depressive fits we are prone to. My method is to create movie scenes in my head while listening to music, and create plots from that. I will confess my Argonauts of Space series started off as revenge for Pluto getting demoted from planet to planetoid, though. I thought, "what would make them beg to call it a planet again... ooh, I know! It's really an ancient alien spaceship! Hmm. And why is it there? It got left as debris after a war." And it all sort of cascaded from there ... and because I am what is politely called a "discovery writer" (but what writers call "pantser", as in "seat of the pants") by the end of the first book I had space Neanderthals and machine telepaths and the vital importance of corn muffins. I dunno about my mind, I just visit... Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Tolle Lege
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0) 2
Diagon Alley maybe.
Posted by: Bryce at September 13, 2026 09:00 AM (5GspC) 3
NYC, John Deere, Twinkie
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 09:02 AM (MWfyi) 4
A writing professor buddy of mine has suggested to his students that one way to become a good writer is to play role-playing games.
That's a collaborative story-telling exercise. I know of several fantasy writers who have used this method to great success (Raymond E. Feist, Steven Erickson & Ian C. Esslemont, Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman, to name a few) Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:02 AM (FZ29D) 5
I read once in a book review column that "Blank paper is God's way of showing you that it's not so easy to be God."
Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:03 AM (AAaj3) 6
Besides still reading Winston Churchill The Gathering Storm, at Sept 1938 in the book, found my reading glasses after being in a pocket, go through wash, hung outside for hours then in dryer heard a clanging. They seem fine so good to go and cleaned somewhat.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 09:04 AM (Ia/+0) 7
Boookkkkzzzz!
Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 13, 2026 09:05 AM (Ydd86) 8
Good Sunday morning, horde!
I love that picture. But I'm a Cold War spy novel aficionado, so it would appeal. Because that's what it looks like. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:06 AM (CjHsb) 9
Honestly, some ideas just appear in my head. Either a whole story, or parts of one: how to solve a problem in the story, or plot points to expand the story. Usually used when I think the word count isn't going to meet the standard for the genre.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:06 AM (1Ff7Z) 10
I've been enjoying booktoober Jake's channel "BookMortem", in which he explores the pulpier shores of SF and Fantasyland.
"9 So Bad, they're Good Science Fiction Books you've probably never heard of" https://tinyurl.com/h29uxu7z The Red Planet Invaders from Rigel Man of Many Minds Genesis Five Shoot at the Moon Secret of the Black Planet Night Mare The Four Day Weekend Galaxy 666 The joke's on you, Jake. I have some of these! I dug out "The Robot Brains", "Secret of the Black Planet", "Man of Many Minds", and "Invaders From Rigel" for my next reads. "The Robot Brains", by British SF author Sydney J. Bounds, was written in the 50's but feels like it's from the 30's. Top scientists on the cusp of technological breakthroughs are being decapitated by rayguns. There are evil giant-brained dwarves and a modern day Mongolian khan who wants to rule the world. It's really bad, but at least it doesn't take 500 pages to stink up the joint. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 09:06 AM (kpS4V) 11
Morning, Sabrina.
Howdy, Horde. If memory serves, Harlan Ellison used to answer the where do you get your ideas question by saying there was an idea service in Schenectady and he sent them $$$ and they sent him a fresh six-pack of ideas every week. He also said that he was frequently asked for the address. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:07 AM (q3u5l) 12
3 NYC, John Deere, Twinkie
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 09:02 AM (MWfyi) Midnight Cowboy has already been written. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:07 AM (CjHsb) 13
I love that picture. But I'm a Cold War spy novel aficionado, so it would appeal. Because that's what it looks like.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:06 AM (CjHsb) Oh, have you read my cold-war era short story? "A Piece of Cake?" Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:08 AM (1Ff7Z) 14
Marketing literature can be tricky. You have to sell the book but not give away the whole story. That's the case with "The Mugger," an early 87th Precinct police procedural by Ed McBain. Some creep is robbing and punching women, then bowing and thanking them. That's all in Chapter One. Meanwhile, the text on the page before the title page tells of a teenage girl who's been clubbed to death. I assume the mugger has crossed the line. Then again, maybe not?
By the way, Inspector Jacques Clouseau comes out triumphant in "The Pink Panther Gets Lucky" through sheer dumb luck. Definitely dumb. Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:08 AM (AAaj3) 15
Oh, have you read my cold-war era short story? "A Piece of Cake?"
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:08 AM (1Ff7Z) I don't think so, do you have a link? Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:09 AM (CjHsb) 16
If memory serves, Harlan Ellison used to answer the where do you get your ideas question by saying there was an idea service in Schenectady and he sent them $$$ and they sent him a fresh six-pack of ideas every week. He also said that he was frequently asked for the address.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:07 AM (q3u5l) --- That sounds exactly like an idea Ellison would use in a story... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:09 AM (FZ29D) Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 09:09 AM (MWfyi) 18
Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. Or listening if your books are recorded.
Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 09:10 AM (yTvNw) 19
For a change, I'm wearing pants. I'm about to head out to an arts festival, so my beloved book thread robe would not suffice.
Tally Ho! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 13, 2026 09:11 AM (kpS4V) 20
Not familiar with Book Mortem, but I'm pretty sure I read Man of Many Minds during my misspent youth when I was devouring all the paperback sf I could scrounge up. Recall nothing about it, but that title sounds like one I had in the pile.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:11 AM (q3u5l) Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 13, 2026 09:11 AM (0U5gm) 22
From the dank alleyway of a run down city:
"Psst... Hey buddy, want to buy a couple of ideas?" Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 13, 2026 09:11 AM (0U5gm) ---- Sesame Street used to have a sketch where a shady-looking character would try to sell letters of the alphabet to one of the regular characters (Ernie? Bert?).. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:15 AM (FZ29D) 23
I don't think so, do you have a link?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:09 AM (CjHsb) Rejected by all so far. I can email it to you, if you want. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:15 AM (1Ff7Z) 24
4 "Perfessor" Squirrel
A writing professor buddy of mine has suggested to his students that one way to become a good writer is to play role-playing games. It is a *great* way to learn to write in-depth (as opposed to paper cutout) characters. If the DM insists you roleplay, that is. I also participated, as a GM, in a large live-action roleplaying game where the participants picked their own character and we, poor sods, had to come up with storylines for ALL of them. Together. Over a hundred. Really built up my writing muscles with that one! Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2026 09:15 AM (k+oif) 25
Reading "Infinity Upgrade" by JN Chaney and Rachel Aukes. In a planetary system essentially owned by an evil, murderous corporation, a regular Joe has a self-aware AI downloaded into his brain by a dying rebel inventor, and much mayhem and hijinks ensue.
Not bad so far, though I do grow weary of the evil, murderous corporation trope. Chaney has so many different sci fi series that I doubt I could read his entire output if I lived another 50 years. Posted by: Sharkman at September 13, 2026 09:18 AM (/RHNq) 26
I don't delve into the fantasy genre much, but my offspring and I have a sort of family book club, and they've had me reading a series by Robert Jackson Bennett.
The first installment is The Tainted Cup. It's a genre mashup, because it's fantasy setting, but with a murder mystery/detective theme, so it's in a class of its own. There is the obligatory gay character, which I'm sure had to happen to get the thing published. It's not in your face all the time, so tolerable. Anyway. We're reading the third and latest in the series now, A Trade of Blood. It's a tale of feuding families, lost fortunes, and a unique and creepy biological warfare. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:19 AM (CjHsb) 27
Ellison wasn't really joking. Back in the pulp era there were classified ads in the magazines for books of story ideas. "Plotto" by William Wallace Cook was one. You could buy ideas, hire a ghost writer to turn them into stories, and they pay a vanity press to publish them.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 13, 2026 09:19 AM (78a2H) 28
"Once participated" in an RPG.
This indicates that the group fell apart. What happened? There's a germ of a story idea. Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:19 AM (AAaj3) 29
That said, I don't usually come up with my book ideas with the three-noun method. It's more of a writing exercise to get the writer out of the depressive fits we are prone to. My method is to create movie scenes in my head while listening to music, and create plots from that.
I'm constantly (or nearly so) depressed, so that wouldn't work for me. It's interesting you mention movies, though, as that's one of the ways I can tell whether a scene I am writing works or not - if I can 'see' it, with jump cuts, closeups and other camera movement, then it's good. I don't often listen to music while I'm writing, but if I do, it's always Baroque, which is close enough to white noise that it doesn't distract me. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 09:22 AM (qRla/) 30
Rejected by all so far. I can email it to you, if you want.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:15 AM (1Ff7Z) Absolutely! My email is in my nic. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:22 AM (CjHsb) 31
When the femme-fatale romance novelist came into my office, I could tell she didn't want to be there. The office and the building -- hell, the whole neighborhood -- were as low-rent as I was, and she was clearly afraid it might be contagious. I put away the bourbon and asked what I could do for her, and managed not to leer as I asked her.
"I need you to find out who's running a black-market idea service. It's hurting business, and we need it shut down." "So why come to me?" She looked at me, and at the office. "You look like you're right at home in those circles. So why not? If you want the job, the pay's good. And you look like you could use it." She took an envelope from her purse. "Ten thousand when the job's done. Here's two thousand in advance and a bus ticket to Schenectady. Take it or leave it." Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:22 AM (q3u5l) 32
This indicates that the group fell apart. What happened?
There's a germ of a story idea. Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:19 AM (AAaj3) One by one the members of a RPG group suddenly start dying in ways that would only happen in the game.... Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:22 AM (1Ff7Z) Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 09:23 AM (qRla/) 34
Anyway. We're reading the third and latest in the series now, A Trade of Blood. It's a tale of feuding families, lost fortunes, and a unique and creepy biological warfare.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:19 AM (CjHsb) ---- I just got that the other day! Now I'm re-reading the first two before I read that one. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:24 AM (FZ29D) 35
I used to make up stories for my kids using the "That reminds me of the time I worked at the ______ factory" premise. I would start out with something like candy corn and say "That reminds me of the time I worked at the candy corn factory" and they would know a story was coming about how I caused some disaster there and got fired.
Like when I worked at the candy corn factory and invented Candy Corn Candles. People couldn't tell the difference and ate them anyway. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 09:26 AM (MWfyi) 36
"As I may have mentioned previously, I am a writer."
Actually, I think you under describe yourself. You have books available for purchase. That makes you an author. Writer, to me, means someone who has completed works, but hasn't published. Everyone can be a writer, but only the best - or luckiest - writers get to be an author. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:26 AM (1Ff7Z) 37
Morning, folken,
I'm finishing Stephen Hunter's The Bullet Garden, a WWII adventure with Earl Swagger, Bob Lee's father, tracking a sniper team in France just after D-Day. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 09:26 AM (wzUl9) 38
Harlan Coben, who has sold 100,000,000 books, has written a book on writing, Plot Twist.
https://tinyurl.com/5fpvsx6k Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 09:26 AM (ndZc7) 39
A NICKEL!?!
Posted by: Reforger at September 13, 2026 09:26 AM (szk5e) 40
It would have been ok except for the wicks.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 09:27 AM (MWfyi) 41
Albert Campion has been asked by a friend from college to investigate the disappearance of his fiance's uncle. Before he even arrives in Cambridge, the body is found, and the trouble truly begins. In Police at the Funeral, Margery Allingham brings the reader a chaotic mystery that defies a simple explanation.
Great aunt Caroline is the matriarch of a dysfunctional family, and the widow of a famous professor at Cambridge. She wanted Campion involved to forestall police involvement and keep the situation quiet, but after Uncle Andrew's body is found tied with rope and a bullet hole in his head, and her son William was the last to be seen with him, it becomes impossible to keep things under wraps. William's army pistol is missing, and a shank of rope from the attic is gone as well, which all point to William. All of Caroline's adult children sponge off of her and live in the same house in a festering atmosphere. When yet another death occurs in the house, it seems that a curse has fallen upon the family, and Campion must use all of his intuition and skill to break open the case and find the answers, however fantastical they appear. This is a classic Campion mystery. Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 13, 2026 09:27 AM (0U5gm) 42
Not a lot of reading this week. Revisited Tim O'Brien's The Things They Carried and one of his later novels -- July, July. Still good after all these years.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:27 AM (q3u5l) 43
Now I'm re-reading the first two before I read that one.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:24 AM (FZ29D) I think the series is improving as he goes. This has been the most interesting one to me, so far. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:27 AM (CjHsb) 44
and because I am what is politely called a "discovery writer" (but what writers call "pantser", as in "seat of the pants") by the end of the first book I had space Neanderthals and machine telepaths and the vital importance of corn muffins.
---- This can work for some writers, but the conventional wisdom I've seen for novice authors is to plan, outline, and organize as much as possible. Usually advice from established authors who got their start doing that. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:27 AM (FZ29D) 45
Candy corn candles. You held them by the wick to keep your fingers from getting sticky.
Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:29 AM (AAaj3) 46
As for reading, I'm slowly going through David Thomson's new A Sudden Flicker of Light and am reminded, once again, why I could never have been a film student. The book is so dense and elliptic that it's very off-putting. I suppose a pro like TJM would understand it, but I don't.
And with him being a committed leftist, I did flip ahead to the last chapter, which is nothing more than a movie-centered screed against the 'dumb' DJT. So I know to skip that when I reach it. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 09:29 AM (qRla/) 47
I am still reading a translation of M. Luther’s advent sermons. He has begun the good works/ free will argument.
Posted by: Accomack at September 13, 2026 09:31 AM (/Chlc) 48
It would have been ok except for the wicks.
Candy with free flossing included! What's not to like? Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 09:31 AM (qRla/) 49
35 I used to make up stories for my kids using the "That reminds me of the time I worked at the ______ factory" premise.
Like when I worked at the candy corn factory and invented Candy Corn Candles. People couldn't tell the difference and ate them anyway. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 09:26 AM (MWfyi) LOL. I'll bet they cherish the memories. What a great dad thing to do! Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:31 AM (CjHsb) 50
Candy Cirn Candles story is funny
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 09:32 AM (Ia/+0) 51
After putting it aside for the better part of a year, I finally finished reading the comic book series "The Maze Agency." It is a mystery series written in its entirety by Mike Barr, and initially drawn by Adam Hughes, and then a succession of lesser artists. It has been mentioned on this thread before (by one of our many mystery aficionados) and that is the whole reason I heard of, and then read the series.
While some of the stories were fun, as a whole the stories suffered for being a comic book. Specifically, the pacing suffers. The author wanted every issue to be a complete story, and wanted every story to hit all the story beats of a traditional mystery; it'd start with a vignette showing the detective's personal life, then something connecting the detective to the mystery, explaining/showing the crime that created the mystery, investigation the possible suspects and motives, introducing a red herring or two, the big reveal where the detective solves the mystery, and then a coda going back to the detective's personal life. You can put all that in a novel, or in 40-minute tv show...but it's a bit much to pack into a 22-page comic book. Posted by: Castle Guy at September 13, 2026 09:35 AM (3v7ra) 52
>> I read once in a book review column that "Blank paper is God's way of showing you that it's not so easy to be God."
Heh. Posted by: Lizzy at September 13, 2026 09:36 AM (rOKnE) 53
Roger Ebert has said one of his guilty pleasures is how movies portray writers writing. Sometimes it's pounding at a typewriter while throwing back Jack Daniels; sometimes it's walking with your dog around a lake contemplating, deep thoughts; sometimes it's dodging bullets while peeking out of a trench at the enemy with pencil and notepad in hand.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 09:36 AM (ndZc7) 54
Sabrina,
I love your account of making a story idea, both for the classroom (which was hilarious) and for real. That's the fun part, giving your imagination full reign. The work comes when you have to make that jumble of ideas make narrative sense. But there are unexpected dangers and paths that can appear. Many years ago I had an outline for an adventure story. Then I wrote a three page intro to establish a few characters and a mood for the story. Three hundred pages later I had a book based solely on that intro. I never got back to the outline. (The book didn't sell. This was long before self publishing was common and going through agents was the norm.) Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 09:37 AM (yTvNw) 55
Just finished reading _Powers of Darkness_, which is (deep breath) an English translation of the Icelandic translation possibly of a Swedish translation of Bram Stoker's Dracula.
You might ask, why not just read Dracula? Or you might assume this is an exercise in comic mis-translation a la Mark Twain. It is neither. There are whole plot elements in PoD which aren't in Dracula itself, and some of the characters have different names, which suggests that maybe the translator(s) could have been working from an earlier draft by Stoker. Example: at one point while Thomas (not Jonathan) Harker is creeping around Dracula's castle, he finds a secret basement chamber where Dracula is leading a bunch of Neanderthal types in a vampiric human sacrifice cult ritual. (Shades of "The Rats in the Walls"!) The Icelandic version was published as a newspaper serial, and apparently the publisher must have gotten tired of it. The Harker-in-the-Castle sequence is as long or longer than the comparable part of Stoker's novel, but the remainder of the novel is briskly retold, almost summarized, in about a quarter of the length. Dracula's death literally gets one sentence. Posted by: Trimegistus at September 13, 2026 09:38 AM (78a2H) 56
Thanks for the post Sabrina.
Finished reading Assignment in Utopia by Eugene Lyons (1937) https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-red-decade-redux "It may be that the best book that will ever be written about today’s progressive mind-set was published in 1941." Posted by: 13times at September 13, 2026 09:40 AM (fnZRl) 57
I love the idea of the "working at the ${thing} factory" stories. What lucky kids!
I made the mistake of coming up with a story on the fly for a toddler I was entertaining. It involved a mother bear and her cubs waking up hungry after hibernation and the various things the cubs wanted to eat. When I finished I heard the dreaded words "Again!" And I had to feverishly try to remember how I had started the damn story ... Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2026 09:40 AM (63pwK) 58
There were a lot of those stories and I can't remember any of them. They just come on the fly. Like when I worked at the Sour Creme factory and had this idea for sweet and sour creme.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 09:43 AM (MWfyi) 59
"When I finished I heard the dreaded words "Again!""
Been there and done that. It was a rough couple of weeks too. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:44 AM (q3u5l) 60
My maternal grandfather, despite a lack of schooling, spent a lot of time writing short pieces and poems after his retirement frim the mines. The wife of one of us grandkids had them reprinted in a spiral binder as Christmas gifts one year.
I don't know where mine is. I do recall one poem about two monkeys discussing Darwin's theory. It ended: Yes, man descended, the ornery cuss, But, brother, he didn't descend from us! Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:44 AM (VChGu) 61
"Psst... Hey buddy, want to buy a couple of ideas?"
Posted by: Thomas Paine They fell off a truck. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 09:44 AM (ndZc7) 62
Absolutely! My email is in my nic.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:22 AM (CjHsb) Sent. It's in docx. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:46 AM (1Ff7Z) 63
Have been listening to the first of the Eisenhorn novels from Dan Abnett(sp?) It's interesting and I can see why they are popular. It is a different writing style from what you find these days in any genre. It is unrelieved action. Pushing from one scene to another, relentlessly driving forward.
It is also interesting in what it is missing. The hero is never pausing and contemplating his actions or why he is doing what he is doing or if he is right. Worldbuilding is good with things implied and mentioned, but no sitting down and doing the 'As you know, the Emperor is...' It stays consistent to itself and hints, but does not explicate. I like it so far. Had a bunch of credits on audible so I got the whole series. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 13, 2026 09:47 AM (Y/06r) 64
Getting story ideas? Half the stories running through my head start with stories I've just watched/read about, and taking a look at that scenario from the perspective of a bystander.
As an example, the last novel I read feature a sword-and-sorcery style wandering adventurer who thwarted not less that 2 potentially city-killing Eldrich horrors. So, my thought process; what happens after the wandering hero has moved on. There is a de-populated city in the middle of an empire. Eventually some new civilians will move into the empty land (or be forcefully relocated onto the land, because the empire needs the taxes!) and then our new protagonist will encounter some dangerous remanent of what came before.... Posted by: Castle Guy at September 13, 2026 09:47 AM (3v7ra) 65
Wouldn't he be looking at the back of the paper?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 09:47 AM (5Go8e) 66
It is also interesting in what it is missing. The hero is never pausing and contemplating his actions or why he is doing what he is doing or if he is right. Worldbuilding is good with things implied and mentioned, but no sitting down and doing the 'As you know, the Emperor is...' It stays consistent to itself and hints, but does not explicate.
I like it so far. Had a bunch of credits on audible so I got the whole series. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 13, 2026 09:47 AM (Y/06r) ---- I read the omnibus edition of the Eisenhorn books earlier this year. Although the protagonist starts out unwavering in his belief in the rightness of the Empire, that does start to change in the later books...Good character development overall. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:49 AM (FZ29D) Posted by: 13times at September 13, 2026 09:49 AM (fnZRl) Posted by: Shinjinrui at September 13, 2026 09:50 AM (xNMCe) 69
Also recently, I reread Jack Schaefer's "Sergeant Houck," one of the best short stories in any genre (or in literary circles for that matter). Even someone who doesn't like Westerns might like, or at least appreciate, this one.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 09:51 AM (wzUl9) 70
I get my ideas via snail mail from a post office box in Schenectady, third Thursday of the month. Sometimes they're crap. But most of the time you can make 'em work with a bit of hand filing, grease, and maybe a few extra screws.
Posted by: unwenchable at September 13, 2026 09:51 AM (wTDv5) 71
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It is also interesting in what it is missing. The hero is never pausing and contemplating his actions or why he is doing what he is doing or if he is right. Worldbuilding is good with things implied and mentioned, but no sitting down and doing the 'As you know, the Emperor is...' It stays consistent to itself and hints, but does not explicate. I like it so far. Had a bunch of credits on audible so I got the whole series. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 13, 2026 09:47 AM (Y/06r) Well, Eisenhorn is part of the Warhammer 40K franchise, and in that world, self doubt (or even self reflection)would be Heresy. And everyone on the internet knows how that setting feels about Heresy... Posted by: Castle Guy at September 13, 2026 09:54 AM (3v7ra) 72
Close to the end of Stone’s Fall.. read all of a George Sand novel (Indiana) and it was terrible. But it’s All Hail Éris said of The Robot Brains, at least it didn’t take 500 pages to stink up the joint. It was part of a 3 novel collection on my kindle. Don’t know if I should try again or just right her off as a crappy writer
Posted by: Who Knew at September 13, 2026 09:54 AM (0QMbS) 73
Sent. It's in docx.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 09:46 AM (1Ff7Z) Cool, I'll find time for that this week. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2026 09:54 AM (CjHsb) 74
In "The Babylon Lottery" Jorge Luis Borges's narrator says that for a time he was declared invisible. Nothing else is done with the notion; it's passed over, just a throwaway bit. Later, Robert Silverberg picked up that notion and got one of his best short stories of the 60s out of it, "To See the Invisible Man."
In the novel April Evil, John D. MacDonald has a bit of description, something like "one of those men who could be a used car salesman or a tourist from Syracuse or a hired assassin." Donald Justice picked that up and got a nifty little chiller of a poem from it, "The Tourist from Syracuse." Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:57 AM (q3u5l) 75
ss so. The non-writing public, not seeing the whining and crying and hair-pulling we do at the computer, think it is just sitting back and thinking Big Thinks
Well, there's your problem. Just avoid thinking the Little Thinks, and Bob's your uncle, you're the next Tom Clancy. Posted by: Archimedes at September 13, 2026 09:58 AM (Riz8t) 76
The thread's been up for nearly and hour and is nowhere near 100 comments.
I think the subject scared people away. Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:59 AM (VChGu) 77
Knocking down latest Reacher novels like nobody's business lately.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 10:00 AM (5Go8e) 78
>>I made the mistake of coming up with a story on the fly for a toddler I was entertaining.
At the coffee shop yesterday morning, had a Mom, Dad, & 2 little girls (about 3 & 6). Mom made up a quick fairy story at the younger one's request. When the girl asked for another, Mom said, 'Maybe Daddy has one for you.' Didn't hear how he deflected, though. Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 10:00 AM (NcvvS) 79
The first comment was posted before the thread. How does that work?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 10:01 AM (5Go8e) 80
A NICKEL!?!
Posted by: Reforger at September 13, 2026 09:26 AM (szk5e) Shoot. Can't even buy an RC with that. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 10:02 AM (1Ff7Z) 81
On the question of "Where do you get your ideas?" the story is told of how Robert A. Heinlein upon hearing that one of his writer buddies (Theodore Sturgeon IIRC) was suffering severe writer's block sent him a letter with a page long list of story ideas (plus a check to which Sturgeon returned a grateful thanks plus regret that most of it was "...pissed away on rent and groceries."
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 13, 2026 10:03 AM (/GVA9) 82
Talarico's got a what Jesus would do story idea.
"What would Jesus do if he visited the U.S. Senate? I think he would tell the Senators...'I was a stranger and you deported me'...and then I think he would flip over those fancy desks..." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 10:03 AM (ndZc7) 83
In the novel April Evil, John D. MacDonald has a bit of description, something like "one of those men who could be a used car salesman or a tourist from Syracuse or a hired assassin." Donald Justice picked that up and got a nifty little chiller of a poem from it, "The Tourist from Syracuse."
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 09:57 AM (q3u5l) There's a Kolchak short story (I don't remember the title) where he runs into an apparently immortal man whose purpose is to kill or otherwise remove men or women who will become great dangers to the world. Kolchak can never get a fix on him, however, because the man's appearance constantly changes from one ordinary face to another. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 10:07 AM (qRla/) 84
Kolchak? Who loves you, Baby?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 10:08 AM (5Go8e) 85
Sabrina, I read your "Argonauts of Space" trilogy some years ago and really enjoyed it. I wish you'd write more about the AI ships. Any plans to do so?
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 10:08 AM (lJ0H4) 86
Story idea. Dracula in the Senate. "Blood! I must drink the taxpayers' blood! Particularly the young girls!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 10:08 AM (ndZc7) 87
RPG gamers writing books.....
James Cambias; A Darkling Sea and The Godel Operation (and more.) Adrian Tchaikovsky: lots of books. Posted by: 13times at September 13, 2026 10:09 AM (fnZRl) 88
Good Morning Sabrina
Always a pleasure to see you here. My partner Karen used to ask me for a word. Just something random. She's anagram it and then make a poem of the word using each letter to start a line. Usually, in the car on the way home from a hike. It was astonishing to watch and often hilarious. Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at September 13, 2026 10:09 AM (0+1tY) 89
One advantage to being older is having the chance to read things again after half a century, or more, and compare my thoughts and appreciation. That happened this week with Milton's Paradise Lost which I hadn't read since my teens, circa 1970. Back then Satan was the attractive character: rebellious, determined, dominating. Christianity felt like mild dish water by comparison. And I had no real appreciation of the writing beyond the emotional aspects.
Fast forward fifty-six years. What a difference! There's still the attraction of Satan's defiance but the power of the rest of the poem is clear. And I can see the genius of Milton's writing with the wealth of allusions, pacing, description and imagination. It's like opening an old chest expecting a few dusty coins and discovering it is filled with gold. Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 10:12 AM (yTvNw) 90
The Argonauts wouldn't have space suits.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 10:13 AM (5Go8e) 91
This can work for some writers, but the conventional wisdom I've seen for novice authors is to plan, outline, and organize as much as possible.
Usually advice from established authors who got their start doing that. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 09:27 AM (FZ29D) Bzzzzt! I'm gonna have to press the buzzer on that, Perf. I always start with the idea and see where it goes. Starting from nothing makes the journey more free. I don't think a new writer can completely outline a story before touching the keys or pen. You don't know what could be, if you're going to follow a plan. Don't know how many times stuff I've plotted out - and I do both methods - won't work, and I can replace it with another idea. If you plan too much, you may find it hard to solve problems that crop up with a slavish adherence to a "plan." It doesn't mean I don't think it can work, but it's best not to get locked into one way and one way only to write. By the way, have you ever noticed almost all the writing YTers aren't best selling authors? So, why give credence to their ideas. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 10:13 AM (1Ff7Z) 92
So when I first started working at the Candy Corn factory, I started out as a "white" man. That's the guy that pours the white tips on the candy corn. Most people don't know that candy corn is made upside down, white end first. I did that for a while and moved up (or down,as the case may be) to orange for a short time but I was so good at that they moved me right up to yellow man.
One day we were working and the power went out. No machine, no lights, nothing. I had a flashlight and got an idea, so grabbed some of those candy corns and went over to the lab. Yes, we had a lab at the candy corn factory. There I found a battery drill and drilled a little hole in the pointy end of the candy corn and stuck a piece of string in there. When I lit it on fire, it burned real good! Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:14 AM (MWfyi) 93
Funny you should ask, Tuna! It's not exactly about the AI ships, but I thought it would be hilarious to write about the Argonauts series from the perspective of the ship's cat. Probably a novella, the cat sleeps a lot
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2026 10:14 AM (63pwK) 94
So I made up a few more and went back out to where everyone was sitting around in the dark and showed them my candy cane candles. They were very impressed and said we should make some more, but the plant was shut down because the power was off. In a back room though there was still the old molds and equipment they used back when they made the candy corn by hand. We made up a batch of those candy corn candles and packed them up real nice, put them on the shelf, and went home for the day.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:15 AM (MWfyi) 95
"Maybe Daddy has one for you."
And for some reason, I imagine a scenario in which the parents are using the kids to snipe at each other for years and years and the kids never suspect until after they've grown and the parents split up. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:16 AM (q3u5l) 96
Well the next day when we came in those candy corn candles were gone! They had already gone out with a regular shipment. We didn't say anything, but in a couple of days the phone calls started coming in. That's when I got fired
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:17 AM (MWfyi) 97
Beau died saving little children when the Candy Corn factory exploded. True story.
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 13, 2026 10:17 AM (U/s6V) 98
Ideas have come to me from all sorts of sources. One was from a dream, and oddly I did not have to change much from what I recalled to make the story work. One was from a line in the Pam Tillis song "Mi Vida Loca."
Often, though, it's from my mind wandering and wondering, What would happen if . . . Watching Mrs. Miniver the other night, I began to wonder about a concept, and am still considering it. No idea yet if it will be horror, fantasy, mystery/suspense, or none of those things. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:17 AM (wzUl9) 99
65 Wouldn't he be looking at the back of the paper?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 09:47 AM (5Go8e) "Who the heck is Saedi?" Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 10:19 AM (Ot/FD) 100
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Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 10:19 AM (5Go8e) 101
I read another of Harlan Coben's sports agent Myron Bolitar books this week, Drop Shot, about the murder of a very young has been tennis star. He amazes me with his ability to pull a hidden in plain sight rabbit out of the hat that surprises me.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 10:21 AM (ndZc7) Posted by: Space Sicle Z at September 13, 2026 10:21 AM (fnZRl) 103
How much of the "you must outline" comes not from working writers but from academia? Publishers have wanted outlines, but I've heard of writers who would write the book and then send in an outline of what they've already written.
There's a writing book by Dean Wesley Smith called Writing Into the Dark, talking about the process of writing novels without outlines. Some interesting stuff in there. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:21 AM (q3u5l) 104
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 10:13 AM (1Ff7Z)
I’ve seen this advice from BIG names such as Brandon Sanderson and Terry Brooks. Not just random YouTubers. George RR Martin is an admitted “pantser” which is why he’s written himself into a corner. Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at September 13, 2026 10:22 AM (ppvE/) 105
In 1985, my crew was tasked to fly from Diego Garcia to Djibouti and then transported to a non-descript building located right on the Gulf of Aden at the Gate of Tears.
The mission was to bring "supplies" to four Americans who lived and worked in the building. The head guy told me they were U.S. Department of State employees, at which I laughed, but said nothing. (Of course they weren't State employees, but rather members of a different U.S. agency). I've always thought my experience there would be a good opening scene in a novel of international intrigue. Coming up with a plot going forward would have to fall to aa real author, however, because I'm not good at such things. Posted by: one hour sober at September 13, 2026 10:23 AM (J4Dwc) 106
Wrong burner.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 10:24 AM (5Go8e) 107
82 Talarico's got a what Jesus would do story idea.
"What would Jesus do if he visited the U.S. Senate? I think he would tell the Senators...'I was a stranger and you deported me'...and then I think he would flip over those fancy desks..." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 10:03 AM (ndZc7) I just realized that "Lo-T" also spells "Lot". Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 13, 2026 10:24 AM (Ot/FD) 108
For anyone wanting to enjoy stories where writers are playing with ideas find a copy of "Partners In Wonder" (1971). This is a collection of short stories by Harlan Ellison written in collaboration with a wide ranging assortment of other authors. They include Theodore Sturgeon, Keith Laumer, Ben Bova and Avram Davidson among others. It is quite a collection.
Posted by: John F. MacMichael at September 13, 2026 10:25 AM (/GVA9) 109
Boy, that Talarico's a profound guy, ain't he?
In my version, Jesus would say "I was a stranger and you refused to take me into your own home and forced me upon your poorer neighbors." Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:27 AM (q3u5l) 110
Bitchute moved to Wyoming last year and now works better.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 13, 2026 10:27 AM (5Go8e) 111
>>And for some reason, I imagine a scenario in which the parents are using the kids to snipe at each other for years and years and the kids never suspect until after they've grown and the parents split up.
It was a sweet story about a fairy whose wings got wet in the rain. The sun came out and dried them, and she was able to fly again & slide down the rainbow. Ha, didn't think I was listening that closely. Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 10:27 AM (NcvvS) 112
I’ve seen this advice from BIG names such as Brandon Sanderson and Terry Brooks. Not just random YouTubers. George RR Martin is an admitted “pantser” which is why he’s written himself into a corner.
Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at September 13, 2026 *** I usually start on a project, big or small, with a "notes" document. Something in my "story ideas" Word file catches my attention, or I'm adding to the file with something new. Then I break it out into its own file and proceed from there. Sometimes I follow it through to its conclusion; sometimes I stop after a certain point, which varies, and start in on the text. Sometimes I finish and realize I've gone off in a different direction from what I had in mind during the note writing. Perhaps the resolution I had there becomes unworkable or silly ("I just don't believe this!") as I get into the tale itself and develop the characters and the action. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:28 AM (wzUl9) 113
I used to play D&D with my kids too. Lots of stories there. We had this place called Dingytown...
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:29 AM (MWfyi) 114
My stories almost always come to me in a dream. A major scene, characters and their names and backstories. I write up to it and away from it.
But one still baffles me. When my husband and I packed to move I found a folder of about 70 pp of a sf fantasy. I knew from the paper and the font that I had written it when I was in intense chemo for what seemed at the time an unsurvivable cancer and couldn't put 2 sentences together, let alone 70 pp. I didn't read sf. That was my husband's side of the bookcase. But when you get that kind of letter to yourself, well, you have to honor it. Posted by: Wenda at September 13, 2026 10:30 AM (WBjaU) 115
Nazdar --
I don't doubt it was a sweet story. But on the infrequent occasions when something suggests a notion that could be turned into a story, I tend to come up with something grim. I'm just such an upbeat guy... Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:31 AM (q3u5l) 116
I don't outline, but I rewrite. I start with a memory or an anecdote and work from there. Sometimes it takes 10 to 15 rewrites before I capture the soul of what I'm trying to say.
Posted by: vivi at September 13, 2026 10:33 AM (7esJd) 117
Try grammarly for your story
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at September 13, 2026 10:33 AM (5NDio) 118
It's important to learn story structure, like outlining. Definitely useful in non-fiction where you have to make sure you got all the information down and ordered. Fiction ... is more of an art. And the distinction between outliners and pantsers is truly a matter of the person. I *can* outline, but it sucks all the fun out of the process of writing for me. And outliners (I hear) get very stressed at the idea of not having their structure to hang prose on. The main point (and Dean Wesley Smith, who I have taken several courses from) is to HAVE FUN. If you are having fun, the reader usually will too. Sure, sitting down and doing the work can be a slog. The fun part is realizing a throwaway line in ch. 2 suddenly becomes *very* important in ch. 32, or a character gets all up in your face with *their* opinion on what needs doing... and if you are giggling to yourself as you write ... yeah, that's fun.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2026 10:33 AM (63pwK) 119
In one of his books on writing, Lawrence Block suggests a technique he said he's used: Take an episode of a TV show, the central idea, and make it yours. Get rid of the continuing characters, tell what happens, and end it in a satisfying way that is completely different from the original script. He said he sold more than a few stories that way.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:34 AM (wzUl9) 120
I've not read any of Martin's GoT books, and have no plans to. But Martin did some nice stuff prior to GoT. Lot of good short work ("Sandkings" etc), and I recall Fevre Dream and The Armageddon Rag being pretty decent.
But if he tried to do something as big as GoT strictly as a pantser, and published the books as he went along without having a solid idea of a final conclusion -- well, yeah, I can see how that would be asking for trouble. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:36 AM (q3u5l) 121
I’ve seen this advice from BIG names such as Brandon Sanderson and Terry Brooks. Not just random YouTubers. George RR Martin is an admitted “pantser” which is why he’s written himself into a corner.
Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at September 13, 2026 10:22 AM (ppvE/) Just don't be slavish to one method or another. I start free form, then about a third of the way through I plot in general terms. I don't do every scene and then and then and then. It won't let you add something if an idea hits, or you have to torture what you've already written to make it fit. If it works for them, goody. It may not work for a new writer because they may not know how to plot a story yet. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 10:36 AM (1Ff7Z) 122
Talifreako: “What would Jesus do if he visited the U.S. Senate?”
—— Separation of Church and State, cocksucker Posted by: Check Out His Crawlspace Too at September 13, 2026 10:37 AM (SY3aZ) 123
I've not read any of Martin's GoT books, and have no plans to. But Martin did some nice stuff prior to GoT. Lot of good short work ("Sandkings" etc), and I recall Fevre Dream and The Armageddon Rag being pretty decent. . . .
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 *** Whenever people growl about GRR Martin not being any good, I describe Fevre Dream, and they have to admit it sounds terrific. And it is. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:38 AM (wzUl9) 124
"Take an episode of a TV show, the central idea, and make it yours."
Hmm. A shipment of candy corn is needed on a remote Pacific island but the ship's science officer causes a detour Tahiti to cure his seven year itch. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:39 AM (MWfyi) 125
Very good and important post Sabrina.
Ideas seem to come at random and when they stop coming naturally it can be jarring. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 10:39 AM (xcxpd) 126
I mostly just need a good editor.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:40 AM (MWfyi) 127
I had a friend who was a professional writer. He told me that good ideas were everywhere, and good stories weren’t hard to come up with.
“Good endings” he said; “THAT’S the hard part!” Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 10:41 AM (P8wUf) 128
"What would Jesus do if he visited the U.S. Senate?”
I'm not sure that's that kind of story idea I would run with. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:41 AM (MWfyi) 129
123 I've not read any of Martin's GoT books, and have no plans to. But Martin did some nice stuff prior to GoT. Lot of good short work ("Sandkings" etc), and I recall Fevre Dream and The Armageddon Rag being pretty decent. . . .
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 *** Whenever people growl about GRR Martin not being any good, I describe Fevre Dream, and they have to admit it sounds terrific. And it is. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:38 AM (wzUl9) Martin is a skillful writer but he's got some serious flaws, some ideological, that prevent him from doing anything he doesn't want to. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 10:42 AM (xcxpd) 130
This book looks at a footnote to history I know nothing about. I may have to read it.
Fiume: The Poet Who Captured a City tells the remarkable true story of a poet who became a commander, a disputed port that became a revolutionary state, and fifteen turbulent months that offered Europe an early glimpse of the political forces that would shape the decades ahead. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 10:45 AM (ndZc7) 131
Oh, wanted to mention: In Stephen Hunter's The Bullet Garden, there are more than a few cameos. Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier show up, for instance; and two of Earl Swagger's team consult an Oxford don whose wife or housekeeper calls him "Ronnie," and who mentions he wrote a children's book in '37 and then began on a followup which has turned "rather dark." His identity I leave as an exercise for the student.
Baroness Karen Blixen is mentioned by first name. Her pen name is not given, but from the description and background, it has to be her. And a fictionalized version of her first husband, the "Blixen" fellow, is important to Hunter's story. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:45 AM (wzUl9) 132
But if he tried to do something as big as GoT strictly as a pantser, and published the books as he went along without having a solid idea of a final conclusion -- well, yeah, I can see how that would be asking for trouble.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:36 AM (q3u5l) I suppose this GoT is an epic, never-ending story. I don't see why he'd be able to finish it just because he did a complete outline instead of pantsing all the way to the end. He's older, isn't he? Maybe he's just lost interest in continuing the work. I know how that feels. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 10:45 AM (1Ff7Z) 133
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But if [George RR Martin] tried to do something as big as GoT strictly as a pantser, and published the books as he went along without having a solid idea of a final conclusion -- well, yeah, I can see how that would be asking for trouble. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:36 AM (q3u5l) Heh. From what I've heard, his original pitch to the publisher (which he presumably had a 'plan' for) was for a trilogy. One could only imagine what would have happened had to stuck to that original pitch... I've read a few chapters of Martin's work; back when the Game of Thrones TV show was good (or at least still decent) I'd wander over the library and read some chapters featuring the characters I liked...but nothing has made me want to read the entire books, nor to delve into his earlier works. Posted by: Castle Guy at September 13, 2026 10:46 AM (3v7ra) 134
Talifreako: “What would Jesus do if he visited the U.S. Senate?”
*** Throw up His hands in horror and flee. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:46 AM (wzUl9) 135
I mostly just need a good editor.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:40 AM (MWfyi) I know one who's open for more business. Wolfus can verify. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 13, 2026 10:47 AM (1Ff7Z) 136
Sabrina,
I absolutely agree with you and Dean about having fun, except for the sf universe I described above that came to me out of nowhere. Those stories are more like taking dictation and they take me places that are hard to go to. One came to me just this past week, and I'm still fighting against writing it, but I know I'm going to lose. Posted by: Wenda at September 13, 2026 10:47 AM (WBjaU) 137
"What would Jesus do if he visited the U.S. Senate?”
As the saying goes 'flipping over tables and chasing people out with a whip' in on the table... Posted by: Castle Guy at September 13, 2026 10:47 AM (3v7ra) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 10:47 AM (ndZc7) 139
Reflect and Eject — a lamerick webwork
Ideas? Of course, I get plenty. Each morning I wake up with twenty. But when I get up, And have downed my first cup, I see that they're all excrementy. Posted by: mindful webworker - mulling doon at September 13, 2026 10:50 AM (4lnVb) 140
Yay book thread! I finished Graham Greene's Brighton Rock, a gangster redemption/damnation story written in 1938. I enjoyed it, but cannot recommend it to anyone other than a devoted anglophile who is familiar with 1930s slang.
Also, lots of Catholic stuff in it, but you knew that because of the author. To be clear, Greene includes faith because he regards it as crucial to understanding people (and he's right), but he is not preachy about it, and is very much willing to make fun of the Church and clergy. Like Eveyln Waugh, he also has a deep love of clever plot twists, telegraphing the story and then - and this is the very important part - adding a completely unforeseen but completely consistent turn to it. Sort of the anti-Martin. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2026 10:51 AM (ZOv7s) 141
Bravo ! mindful webworker
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 10:51 AM (Ia/+0) 142
Pantser vs Outliners is a long, long standing conflict because every writer is different and thus what works for one doesn't work for someone else. You gotta experiment and find what does work for you.
I will STRONGLY suggest that if you get a story idea, figure out the ending before spending time writing. Everything in between the opening scene and the ending scene can be outlined or improvised but endings are important. Figure it out first. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 10:52 AM (xcxpd) 143
Mindful at 139 --
I don't wake up with nearly that many, but boy, can I identify with the rest of it. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 10:52 AM (q3u5l) 144
140 Yay book thread! I finished Graham Greene's Brighton Rock, a gangster redemption/damnation story written in 1938. I enjoyed it, but cannot recommend it to anyone other than a devoted anglophile who is familiar with 1930s slang.
You mean like "23 skidoo" or "That's really swell"? Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2026 10:54 AM (g8Ew8) 145
Also in The Bullet Garden, Graham Greene's assassin Raven has various scenes. I guess it's supposed to be him, as the assassin has a harelip, and visited Brighton Rock amusement park as a boy, which I think is part of the background GG gives his Raven. The problem is that GG's Raven appeared in 1936, and I think he dies in that novel, A Gun For Sale/This Gun For Hire; yet Hunter's story takes place in the London of 1944.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:57 AM (wzUl9) 146
Note that "pantsing" vs outlining can depend on what specific project a writer is working on. Some stories need careful outlining, but others work best just by letting the characters do their thing and see how they bounce off each other.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 13, 2026 10:57 AM (78a2H) 147
Yay book thread! I finished Graham Greene's Brighton Rock, a gangster redemption/damnation story written in 1938. I enjoyed it, but cannot recommend it to anyone other than a devoted anglophile who is familiar with 1930s slang.
* You mean like "23 skidoo" or "That's really swell"? Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2026 *** Thirties British slang is another country entirely! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:57 AM (wzUl9) 148
"I will STRONGLY suggest that if you get a story idea, figure out the ending before spending time writing. "
Seeing as how all my stories ended up with me getting fired, that was never a problem. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 10:58 AM (MWfyi) 149
When I started trying to write long-form fiction in college, I'd come up with a setting, and maybe characters but plot always eluded me. I'd get so far and then abandon it. I think a big part of this was inadequate life experience. It wasn't until I was in my 30s and had done a few things that I understood life as a story rather than isolated events.
I'd also known more people, and therefore more *about* people, and I began to use those people in my work. Maxim Darius in the Man of Destiny series is a based upon the late great Jerry Roe, head of the Michigan GOP during the 1970s. Political genius, funny guy, though I did change the part about him being an insatiable womanizer. The most clear case of this is "Three Weeks with the Coasties", which is a novelization of my experience at the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. I retained all my records and emails, and so was able to reconstruct it day by day, albeit with some necessary embellishment. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2026 10:58 AM (ZOv7s) 150
Pantser vs Outliners is a long, long standing conflict because every writer is different and thus what works for one doesn't work for someone else. You gotta experiment and find what does work for you.
I will STRONGLY suggest that if you get a story idea, figure out the ending before spending time writing. Everything in between the opening scene and the ending scene can be outlined or improvised but endings are important. Figure it out first. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 *** I can't echo this more strongly. You need to know what the payoff is. It's like telling a joke in public: You know the punchline, but you have to put in the various elements that make the line sensible (in the context of the joke) so that the listener will get it. If you leave something out, the audience will go, "Huh?" And the same reaction will happen if the punchline doesn't match the joke elements. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 11:01 AM (wzUl9) 151
Thirties British slang is another country entirely!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 10:57 AM (wzUl9) --- I ran into words I'd never seen before, and of course the Cockney element adds another layer. There's also the thing where he obstinately refuses to give clear names to people, so you eventually figure out The Boy is Pinkie, but only via dialog. Exposition, what's that? Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2026 11:01 AM (ZOv7s) 152
Some stories need careful outlining, but others work best just by letting the characters do their thing and see how they bounce off each other.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 13, 2026 10:57 AM (78a2H) Much like in Debbie Does Dallas. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 13, 2026 11:02 AM (g8Ew8) 153
I do recall one poem about two monkeys discussing Darwin's theory. It ended:
Yes, man descended, the ornery cuss, But, brother, he didn't descend from us! Posted by: Weak Geek at September 13, 2026 09:44 AM (VChGu) Go on Youtube, and look for "The Monkey Speaks His Mind" by Dave Bartholomew. It's an entire song, and those lines are from it. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 11:03 AM (1z8ji) 154
I can't echo this more strongly. You need to know what the payoff is. It's like telling a joke in public: You know the punchline, but you have to put in the various elements that make the line sensible (in the context of the joke) so that the listener will get it. If you leave something out, the audience will go, "Huh?" And the same reaction will happen if the punchline doesn't match the joke elements.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 11:01 AM (wzUl9) --- Counterpioint: it is often the case that while you know WHAT will happen, the HOW comes to you late in the writing, and is often unexpected, the resuilt of the story taking on a life of its own. The problem with Martin was that he created an organic story and then kept doing gotchas until it felt completely contrived and random. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2026 11:04 AM (ZOv7s) 155
Raining like hell here at Chateaux Prov. Must be what all you others got yesterday.
Good day to stay in and read. Had to be out early, just got back. Will follow my own advice, with more tea. Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 11:04 AM (sl73Y) 156
The "gotcha" at the end Waugh's short story "Basil Seal Rides Again" was one of the most brutally hilarious I have ever encountered. I was weeping with laughter. Talk about payoff.
(This was a belated conclusion to his Smart Set books and their anti-hero Lord Basil Seal.) Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2026 11:05 AM (ZOv7s) 157
Georges Simenon, if his Paris Review interview can be believed, was a pantser. When starting a novel, he had a place, some characters, and an opening incident that would set his people in motion.
"I know nothing whatever about the events that will occur later. Otherwise it would not be interesting to me." Seemed to work out pretty well for him. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 11:06 AM (q3u5l) 158
Also, nice column, Sabrina.
Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 11:07 AM (sl73Y) 159
Well, busy day today, thanks, Sabrina.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2026 11:09 AM (ZOv7s) 160
When it comes to Catholic authors, it is fashionable on the left to dislike Flannery O'Connor, and I don't want to dislike her. But Wise Blood is deeply weird.
Posted by: Jean-Claude in at September 13, 2026 11:11 AM (2ap+5) 161
Fiume: The Poet Who Captured a City tells the remarkable true story of a poet who became a commander, a disputed port that became a revolutionary state, and fifteen turbulent months that offered Europe an early glimpse of the political forces that would shape the decades ahead.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 10:45 AM (ndZc7) Gabriele D'Annunzio? Certifiable lunatic. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 11:16 AM (qRla/) 162
I'm a frugal guy. One indulgence is a well designed, well made hardcover book. My latest is Paradise Lost published by Lithos Press. The clothbound cover is a woodcut by Stephen Crotts who does the illustrations for Malcolm Guite's Arthur epic poem. The paper is nicely thick, the print is large enough to be comfortable, the page edges are gilded, a ribbon book mark, illustrations from Gustave Dore. There are brief annotations in the generous margins that are both helpful and don't distract the reader. I like that better than lengthy footnotes or flipping back and forth to an appendix.
The book is a physical pleasure to hold and read. I expect to pass this to young family members when the time comes. It is heirloom quality. At 28 bucks on Amazon, I think it is a real value, worth every penny to preserve and enjoy one of the treasures of English literature. Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 11:18 AM (yTvNw) 163
I will STRONGLY suggest that if you get a story idea, figure out the ending before spending time writing. Everything in between the opening scene and the ending scene can be outlined or improvised but endings are important. Figure it out first.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 13, 2026 My Theda Bara novels are all told in flashback (which, I have been assured, is a death-kiss as far as trad publishing is concerned), so I have the opening and closing written first. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 11:19 AM (qRla/) Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 11:19 AM (qRla/) 165
When it comes to Catholic authors, it is fashionable on the left to dislike Flannery O'Connor, and I don't want to dislike her. But Wise Blood is deeply weird.
Posted by: Jean-Claude in at September 13, 2026 *** While I've liked some of her short stories, she is not on the top of my favorites list. Maybe it's the Southern-ness of what she does. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9) 166
IIRC, Lawrence Block once cited a section of Donald Westlake's novel Adios Scheherezade as offering an excellent example of a novel outline. The book is set in the days when the sleaze paperbacks were still a going concern, and the narrator's been earning his living cranking out the stuff and can't bring himself to write the book he has to deliver in a few weeks. He tries to outline the thing. The closing portion of his outline, when his disgust with the stuff kicks in, is quite gross (funny too if you have a warped sense of humor). But it's a nice example of an outline.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 11:23 AM (q3u5l) 167
My Theda Bara novels are all told in flashback (which, I have been assured, is a death-kiss as far as trad publishing is concerned), so I have the opening and closing written first.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 13, 2026 *** It may remain a death-kiss until it's not. Somebody will write a well-received and big-selling novel with the flashback as a central element, and then everybody will be scrambling to jump onto the wagon. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 11:24 AM (wzUl9) 168
I’m still reading, Operation Paperclip: The Secret Intelligence Program that Brought Nazi Scientists to America Book by Annie Jacobsen.
I’m pretty sure, although not entirely convinced, that my prior knowledge of this historical event was whitewashed, claiming that these scientists were unaware of the extent of the use of prisoner labor and atrocities. It always amazes me that our government doesn’t trust us with this information, believing that we’d choose possible defeat over the actual truth. I know that it’s easier to believe in presentism, and that I’d choose the most moral decision over existence itself, but I’m pretty sure that I’d vote me over them every time. Posted by: Unkaren at September 13, 2026 11:27 AM (wBxGS) 169
You can't handle the truth Col Jessop said
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 11:28 AM (Ia/+0) 170
I've been reading a lot of classic literature lately. (Or Guite's Arthuriad epic poem which will become a classic.) Time for a brief change. I'm in the mood for a Nero Wolfe book with the delightful characters and vocabulary and his brownstone. Might throw in a Matt Helm book as well.
Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 11:28 AM (yTvNw) 171
Whoever recommended the book "The Secret Life of Groceries", that is truly a fun read.
Most grocery stores don't see themselves selling food, but moving Packaged Goods. The section on trucking mates well to the book "End of the Road" which was written by a trucker. Trucking really is worse than share-cropping. If we return to professional drivers like in the 70s and 80s, you get cartels and Teamster labor strikes. With today's system you have debt slavery, drug addicts, homeless, illegal aliens and others who are fine with making $3/hr or less and living almost 24hrs a day in a 7x7 box. Maybe Musk was right about autonomous trucks—especially for drayage. Posted by: Community Notes at September 13, 2026 11:30 AM (PVBkQ) 172
It always amazes me that our government doesn’t trust us with this information, believing that we’d choose possible defeat over the actual truth. I know that it’s easier to believe in presentism, and that I’d choose the most moral decision over existence itself, but I’m pretty sure that I’d vote me over them every time.
Posted by: Unkaren at September 13, 2026 11:27 AM (wBxGS) The one I met was unrepentant. Fuel scientist. Posted by: Reforger at September 13, 2026 11:33 AM (F9nWj) 173
Gabriele D'Annunzio? Certifiable lunatic.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) There's a lot of that going around lately. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7) 174
Time for a brief change. I'm in the mood for a Nero Wolfe book with the delightful characters and vocabulary and his brownstone. Might throw in a Matt Helm book as well.
Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 *** Have you read all the Wolfe books? Two of my favorites are from the '50s, Murder by the Book and Might As Well Be Dead. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 11:35 AM (wzUl9) 175
He hung his head between his knees. His arms folded across him. A soft noise. He was chuckling. Or sobbing.
All I could do was stand there, like an idiot, staring at him. How do you give the gift of Peace to the Peacebringer? I think that's why most of my fellow believers in Paul's divine status don't believe me. They don't want to know the truth. In a way, they were afraid of the truth. Paul was just some guy, as a person, whatever The Gift was that he gave us. Now I knew. And I knew he hadn't been to Heaven. He'd been to Hell. Posted by: mindful webworker - Invulnerable at September 13, 2026 11:37 AM (4lnVb) Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2026 11:38 AM (2WIwB) 177
Time I shuffled off to handle some chores, all. Be nice. If you can't do that, at least don't get caught, or have plausible deniability ready to deploy!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 11:40 AM (wzUl9) 178
I know of several fantasy writers who have used this method to great success (Raymond E. Feist, Steven Erickson & Ian C. Esslemont, Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman, to name a few)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel My understanding of most of the early Forgotten Realms novels is that they were novelizations of Ed Greenwood(?)'s D&D campaigns Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 13, 2026 11:42 AM (anFBA) 179
I would say - before you start writing, know- your beginning the end and a minimum of three knockout scenes to act as sign posts along the way. Five or six is even better. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 11:43 AM (iJfKG) 180
174 ... "Have you read all the Wolfe books? Two of my favorites are from the '50s, Murder by the Book and Might As Well Be Dead."
Hi Wolfus, I haven't read all of them but most. And I know I read those two although I don't recall the specifics. This is where used book stores come in with a chance to get inexpensive books in a series. Some of my paperbacks are showing their age but are still readable. Posted by: JTB at September 13, 2026 11:45 AM (yTvNw) 181
The one I met was unrepentant. Fuel scientist
So, he thought Hitler was doing the right thing? Or, that Germany was fucked over in the Treaty of Versailles, and was justified in trying to conquer the world. Posted by: Unkaren at September 13, 2026 11:46 AM (wBxGS) 182
Finally SOMEONE shows up in a kilt! It's like you guys never read the instructions or something
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2026 11:47 AM (63pwK) 183
In his intro to a reprint of Boys & Girls Together, William Goldman says "I had this much: a bunch of young people come to New York. I know I knew it went badly for them. That's it, folks." And he knew it had to be a LONG book.
It is a long book. And apparently not tightly plotted before he began writing it. And it's a terrific read. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 11:50 AM (q3u5l) 184
Von Braun had a lot of help. It's no accident that there were full color Disney programs about the Moon and Mars and articles in Colliers in the mid 1950s. He was an amazingly charismatic kind of guy, right out of central casting, and by most accounts a pretty good engineer.
Kurt Debus, and Arthur Rudolph were top level nazis and pretty much ran the entire booster or Saturn V program. Rudolph was later deported. Less well known than the rocket scientists, of which there were hundreds, were the propaganda specialists and chemical/biological warfare specialists. The spook agencies picked up where they left off, the experiments at Dachau with hallucinogenics, trying to find "truth serum". Initially they focused on Mescaline, which Rudolf Hess described as "Mexican Brain Poison", apparently the British messed with him quite a bit. There is mention of Bill Donovan working with L.S.D. in the OSS days, which puts the US government role with this substance much earlier than the early 1950s. But from out here in the cheap seats it looks to me the 1960s "tune on turn on drop out" drug culture had its genesis in the spook agencies. Your tax dollars at work, with a little help from nazis Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 11:51 AM (uozx9) 185
your beginning
the end and a minimum of three knockout scenes to act as sign posts along the way. - I heard some smart guy once define a good movie as one with no bad scenes and three good scenes. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 11:52 AM (ndZc7) 186
If you’re going to whitewash history then it’s best to do it with hallucinogenic substances.
Posted by: Unkaren at September 13, 2026 11:54 AM (wBxGS) 187
Should have thought this earlier, is screen writing any different from book writing?
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 11:55 AM (Ia/+0) 188
And outta here for the morning. Chores to screw up, cat to annoy (no active measures required here -- I annoy the cat merely by existing), some reading to do, and maybe even a little writing (hey, it could happen).
Sabrina, thanks for the thread. I'm always a sucker for any writer's shoptalk. Have a good one, gang. Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 13, 2026 11:56 AM (q3u5l) 189
Finally SOMEONE shows up in a kilt! It's like you guys never read the instructions or something
Posted by: Sabrina Chase Some years ago, I attended a presentation by one of my son-in-law's favorite professors. He appeared wearing a skirt! I was like oh shit! My SIL explained it's not what it seems. He's just a Scottish nationalist. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 11:58 AM (ndZc7) Posted by: Walter Hobbs at September 13, 2026 12:00 PM (wpRMV) 191
Good morning from the now cooled down Left Coast where the 49ers beat the Rams down under and the Cal Bears redeemed themselves in Upstate NY.
Oh--sorry. Wrong thread! I can write scenes. I can write characters. I can write dialogue. My challenge is the resolution of the conflict. I write myself into a corner or a wall and... I'm a better poet than a narrative writer. /sigh Posted by: March Hare at September 13, 2026 12:00 PM (+A1pr) 192
And so another Book Thread has moved to Unsupervised status. I must go off and write more books for you lot!
As always, a pleasure ... Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 13, 2026 12:01 PM (63pwK) 193
Thanks for the Book Thread, Sabrina!
Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 12:01 PM (NcvvS) 194
I don't have many "conspiracy theories" (virtually all of them turned out to be conspiracy facts anyway) but one of them is the strange decline and death of James Forrestal, the first secretary of defense. He ended up doing a swan dive from about 15 floors high at Bethesda, and has a lot of the characteristics of a spook hit.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 12:03 PM (uozx9) 195
Should have thought this earlier, is screen writing any different from book writing?
Posted by: Skip Immensely, scripts have to be complete storylines pared down to the bare elements, and timed to the page. They are entirely different arts. Posted by: Escobar cut-loop at September 13, 2026 12:04 PM (HeG1i) 196
146 Note that "pantsing" vs outlining can depend on what specific project a writer is working on. Some stories need careful outlining, but others work best just by letting the characters do their thing and see how they bounce off each other.
--------- The latter approach also works well for big budget movie trilogies. Make it up as you go along! Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at September 13, 2026 12:05 PM (wpRMV) 197
Should have thought this earlier, is screen writing any different from book writing?
Posted by: Skip I've mentioned my enjoyment of author Anthony Horowitz. His three book Susan Ryeland series have all been made into BBC miniseries and he wrote the screenplays. It's interesting to watch the differences between book and screenplay. Some I understand as just translating to a more visual mode and some I don't. For example, the setting for his latest, Marble Hall Murders, is transferred from the south of France to Cyprus. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 13, 2026 12:06 PM (ndZc7) 198
I guess books getting turned into movies do need to be rewritten
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 12:06 PM (Ia/+0) 199
I must go…
Posted by: Sabrina Chase The Captain having abandoned the ship, the crew was left rudderless and adrift, hatches unbattened, awaiting rescue of the next Big Thing. Posted by: mindful webworker - Invulnerable at September 13, 2026 12:07 PM (4lnVb) 200
>>I guess books getting turned into movies do need to be rewritten
Which is why so many fans of a book hiss at the movie adaptation. Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 12:08 PM (NcvvS) Posted by: mindful webworker - Invulnerable at September 13, 2026 12:08 PM (4lnVb) 202
Nood.
Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 12:09 PM (NcvvS) 203
WE HAZ A NOOD
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 12:09 PM (Ia/+0) 204
56 Finished reading Assignment in Utopia by Eugene Lyons (1937)
https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-red-decade-redux "It may be that the best book that will ever be written about today’s progressive mind-set was published in 1941." Posted by: 13times at September 13, 2026 09:40 AM (fnZRl) Great article. I read Whitaker Chamber's "Witness". May have to check out Eugene Lyons too. Posted by: Joemarine at September 13, 2026 12:39 PM (y171U) 205
Betrayed!
I'm re-editing a book I started over 35 years ago, and am up to chapter 10, then I get a corrupted file on the flash drive I'm using. Ch 10, gone, ch's 8 & 9, lost the ready-to-print files, lost some wip files, not happy obviously. Couldn't recover any lost files, but did recover 8 & 9 from their wips. Ch 10, redoing from the rough drafts (but can't remember all the on the fly edits) Lesson learned: Save to more than one media (CD now added to routine as primary) At least I didn't lose ALL my work... :-/ /rant over Posted by: As Not Seen On TV at September 13, 2026 02:07 PM (dH3Sc) 206
p.s. I don't trust the laptop I use for storing files. I've lost too many computers to drive failures. I treat my computers nice, but they seem to hate me. The feeling is getting mutual...
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Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:33 AM (odBC9) 2
Mornin'
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 13, 2026 04:35 AM (C26rB) 3
The Gamers Nexus guy, Steve Burke, seems like a really nice guy.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:36 AM (odBC9) 4
AI tells me that "Steve Burke, the founder and editor-in-chief of the PC hardware review and analysis channel Gamers Nexus, is based in Cary, North Carolina."
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:39 AM (odBC9) 5
G'Day everyone
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 04:43 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:44 AM (odBC9) 7
The IRGC used Claude to find and build profiles on the protestors.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 04:45 AM (E0Et6) 8
In the top video, Steve's Microslop t-shirt is pretty funny.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:47 AM (odBC9) 9
G'mornin' everyone!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 13, 2026 04:59 AM (VyBeY) 10
7 The IRGC used Claude to find and build profiles on the protestors.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 04:45 AM (E0Et6) Scary. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 05:01 AM (odBC9) 11
Good Morning all, time for me to crash but I'm to wired to sleep.
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at September 13, 2026 05:07 AM (Q/FnY) 12
Morning, Tech Peeps
Posted by: fluffy at September 13, 2026 05:07 AM (V0/Sp) 13
I have an LG fridge.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 05:10 AM (odBC9) 14
Evening and morning, late or Sunday toilers and early risers! 'Tis Sunday, innit?
I woke on my own from tangled dreams about reading instructions from a red-paged book, instructions about something I already knew in the dream how to do but can't recall clearly now. Bleah. What's up for you? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:17 AM (wzUl9) 15
I'm up, I'm up! OK? Posted by: Leon Trotsky at September 13, 2026 05:19 AM (eRlcH) 16
The 1967 potboiler Valley of the Dolls is on Movies!, with Sharon Tate and Patty Duke. It wouldn't have interested me when it was new, and I've never watched all of it since. A classic example of glossy trash, I guess?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:20 AM (wzUl9) 17
g'mornin', 'rons Posted by: AltonJackson at September 13, 2026 05:21 AM (AMvSw) 18
>>> Added an embedded database to my programming language
Will there be a day when more ordinary folk will be able to download and code "Hello, World!\n" ? Posted by: fluffy at September 13, 2026 05:26 AM (V0/Sp) 19
>>> I have an LG fridge.
Is it smart? Mrs fluffy and are dreading the day we have to replace appliances. Posted by: fluffy at September 13, 2026 05:27 AM (V0/Sp) 20
We walked over to the Chik-Fil-A near where we live. $17.45 for two sandwiches alone and a large serving of fries (we drank water). Good stuff, but grrrr at the price. Still, going anywhere else as pleasant or better would have run close to $30 with the tip.
I'll buy some meat at Aldi this week, and we can get two dinners out of that with tortillas or with pasta. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:28 AM (wzUl9) 21
19 >>> I have an LG fridge.
Is it smart? Mrs fluffy and are dreading the day we have to replace appliances. Posted by: fluffy at September 13, 2026 05:27 AM (V0/Sp) I don't think so. It's pretty old. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 05:29 AM (odBC9) 22
I've already watched both of those Gamers Nexus videos.
So... How to solve the problem? Well, you could put OpenWRT on your wireless routers, and set your home network up to use VLANs, and shove the TV in its own isolated VLAN, with the router configured to not let it talk to any other devices through the router even if you do add something else to that VLAN in future. Then set up firewall rules on the "If it's not expressly permitted, it's automatically forbidden" security model, only adding addresses the TV needs to talk to (for updates, for authentication, and for whatever services or streams you want to watch.) And that's where this starts to break down, because: a) LG could easily use the same IP address for updates as it does for spying. You might not be able to isolate those. b) LG could lock you out for "violating the terms of service" if you try to shut down their spying, and that's probably inside those utter bricks of terms-of-service that were shown in the 2nd video. c) Finding out exactly what IPs to approve to barely get a stream/service working is a giant pain in the arse. G'morning horde. I should have my coffee now. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 05:32 AM (O7YUW) 23
I purchase all my appliances from the used sellers. They buy all the non spying, non 999 things that can go wrong goods.
Half price or less. Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 05:33 AM (E0Et6) 24
22 I've already watched both of those Gamers Nexus videos.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 05:32 AM (O7YUW) Yay! I was just going to ask Pixy if he has. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 05:33 AM (odBC9) 25
My apartment fridge is probably twenty -- I think after the Katrina debacle, the management back then replaced many units. Frost-free, non-spying.
When I was looking over appliances at Lowe's earlier this year, in case I bought a house that would need a fridge or more, I saw most of the boxes were "smart" . . . but you could still get simpler models for a lot less money. Same thing with stoves. On that trip I didn't look at washers and dryers, but I'd hope the same is true for them. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:38 AM (wzUl9) 26
How many other television manufacturers are doing this? Where is the price cutoff? A $300 tv? A $400 tv? I would toss an LG product into the dumpster.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 13, 2026 05:39 AM (5C90x) 27
I've gotten about halfway through the first video. It's way above me, so I will be dependent on the kindness of strangers to interpret it.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 05:41 AM (odBC9) 28
@19/fluffy: "Mrs fluffy and are dreading the day we have to replace appliances."
There are still "dumb" appliances out there. Large landlord corporations still buy them for apartment complexes they run. Start investigating now. Buy one now as well as a really good appliance dolly (NOT the same as a "box dolly"). Stick the backup fridge in your garage. It can hold bottled drinks. When the day comes that the main fridge has kicked the bucket, you're all set to promote the backup fridge to the primary, and won't you two feel awesome for having been well prepared. Two is one, and one is none. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 05:41 AM (O7YUW) 29
I love my old TV from 2003.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 13, 2026 05:41 AM (wtpml) 30
exactly, BH!
we have two spare dumb TVs (from craigslist) waiting in the closet. one is a duplicate of the current one working, so when it fails I will keep it for parts. coffee req'd, brb Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 13, 2026 05:42 AM (VyBeY) 31
Stirling is romping around, hoping I'll feed him early. No idea where Dagny is; probably in her bedroom window or something. I think his diet is working, but I'm going to find it hard to weigh him with the inaccurate scale I have. Maybe it's time I bought a modern one with a digital display. $$$, I have no doubt.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:44 AM (wzUl9) 32
sock_rat, How are you !?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 05:47 AM (E0Et6) 33
I love my old TV from 2003.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 13, 2026 *** I was happy with my CRT TV from 1995 until 2020. Darn thing weighed 75 lbs. I ignored the digital TV world until the CRT died and there was hardly anybody who could fix it -- and I'd have had to get it to the shop anyway. My current one, bought at Target, is a Vizio. Haven't had any trouble with it, and the over-the-air channels made it possible for me to cancel the cable. I still have the same company for Internet -- but I'm seriously thinking about going with Starlink. It would save me 50%. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:49 AM (wzUl9) 34
More thoughts on LG TV's and other "smart" (spyware) devices:
You have NO way of knowing if they're trying to connect to other networks that you can see on WiFi from your house. Sure most of them are secured, but any company that would go to these lengths to get data on their customers might be willing to try a large password file to attempt to gain access to another network. Does that break the law? Yes. Will they care? Probably not. Corporations have figured out that the worst that can happen to them (normally) is a fine, otherwise known as a 'cost of doing business'. Also: China is Asshoe and it's not as if they're going to pay any attention to other countries' laws. My neighbor had one of those programmable "smart bulbs" in their house. For some reason, it decided it was going to absolutely hammer my wifi routers, trying to gain access for itself every 5 seconds. I had a ridiculously long WPA2 password, but I still had to MAC-address ban that stupid thing, and then decided to switch to a MAC-address whitelist. (If you're not on the list already, you ain't getting an IP address. Ever.) IoT = idIoTic. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 05:49 AM (O7YUW) 35
I imagine they're going to be saying that all of this information could not possibly be processed without AI. Which I imagine is true.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 05:50 AM (odBC9) 36
Well. The monsters are not due for chow for another hour. Time I changed, stretched, and got busy with my workout.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:52 AM (wzUl9) 37
Oh, and that smart bulb of the neighbor's wasn't "smart" and neither were its designers. It kept rotating through a list of 20 common passwords as it tried to connect, utterly littering my router's logs with garbage lines. Over and over and over again...
In a lot of cases they seemed like default passwords that various routers come set up with. Either that means they know there's a lot of people out there that just plug a router in and never give it a second thought as to setting it up properly, or they're counting on the day when you have to factory reset your password, and it'll try to worm its way onto the router then. Now I'm wondering if the thing also had a malware payload it wanted to deliver... hmmm... Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 05:55 AM (O7YUW) 38
26 How many other television manufacturers are doing this? Where is the price cutoff? A $300 tv? A $400 tv? I would toss an LG product into the dumpster.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone Very likely all of them. Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 13, 2026 05:57 AM (BLOW1) 39
@Pixy: "Added an embedded database to my programming language - it's called Nana - today, and a "kitchen sink" option that increases the bundled standard library from 15 packages to 120."
Aren't you worried that this increases the attack surface? Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 05:59 AM (O7YUW) 40
My TV is a screen for DVD's and that is it.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 05:59 AM (E0Et6) 41
I don't have a tv!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:00 AM (odBC9) 42
Rainy morning
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 06:02 AM (Ia/+0) 43
Steve and Wendell look like they're having a ton of fun.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:03 AM (odBC9) 44
I remember specifically when the showroom salesman asked me why I didn't want my plasma with an internet connection. I should have thought of a better kind of 'no.'
Posted by: Escobar cut-loop at September 13, 2026 06:05 AM (HeG1i) 45
m, you don't want to be inundated with consumer ads and propaganda? How very anti of you!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:05 AM (E0Et6) 46
39 @Pixy: "Added an embedded database to my programming language - it's called Nana - today, and a "kitchen sink" option that increases the bundled standard library from 15 packages to 120."
Aren't you worried that this increases the attack surface? Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant The "kitchen sink" build is for developers exploring the language, so that they don't need to download packages individually. And with the capability security model it should not increase the attack surface - at least in theory. Still, it's not recommended for deployment, because code that's not present is code that can't have bugs. Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 13, 2026 06:08 AM (BLOW1) 47
@20/Wolfus: "We walked over to the Chik-Fil-A near where we live. $17.45 for two sandwiches alone and a large serving of fries (we drank water). Good stuff, but grrrr at the price. Still, going anywhere else as pleasant or better would have run close to $30 with the tip. "
Covid. Lockdowns. Governments printing money to keep things sorta-going. Massive inflation via "clipping the coin" that they refuse to talk about or admit, but they full on knew what they were doing. Bastards, the bunch of them. And why? Because then with the value of money effectively halved or even quartered, the value of their debt also went down by that much, because the debt is an absolute number not tied to inflation. If you owe $1,000,000 before a period of massive inflation, and at the end of it your money is worth 25% of what it was before, you effectively now owe $250,000 in pre-inflationary dollars. 3/4 of your debt has been erased. And so has 3/4 of everyone's life savings. It amazes to me that politicians aren't decorating lampposts as a result of this. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 06:08 AM (O7YUW) 48
@46/Pixy: "Still, it's not recommended for deployment, because code that's not present is code that can't have bugs."
So you'll be using the minimalist library model when you deploy Minx 2.0 then. Good. I'm glad you're on top of this. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 06:10 AM (O7YUW) 49
45 m, you don't want to be inundated with consumer ads and propaganda? How very anti of you!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:05 AM (E0Et6) It's me being an introvert. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:11 AM (odBC9) 50
Don't forget that Samsung bricked TVs remotely a few years back...
They claimed the TVs were stolen, so when the TVs were connected online, Samsung bricked them. https://tinyurl.com/yc4ks2pn Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:11 AM (l3cgK) 51
Steve's tablesized screen is pretty cool!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:12 AM (odBC9) 52
Even though my TVs, fridge, washer and dryer are "dumb", they still have some smarts...for instance, there are places where a service person can access the devices for "service"...and yes, those devices (fridge, washer, dryer) are LG that I bought years ago...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:13 AM (l3cgK) 53
For your home wifi network, turn off SSID broadcasting. That way your neighbors don't know the name of your network.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 13, 2026 06:16 AM (36x1j) 54
LG: "We own the glass".
Well good, keep owning it. I ain't buying LG ever again, so you can also keep owning your fridges, washers, dryers, and anything else you make... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:18 AM (l3cgK) 55
Birdbath status?
Posted by: Just Wondering at September 13, 2026 06:18 AM (2Ez/1) 56
53 For your home wifi network, turn off SSID broadcasting. That way your neighbors don't know the name of your network.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 13, 2026 06:16 AM (36x1j) My Wifi network is hidden, but there are still ways to find it, and folks have. I blame the f'n router I needed to expand the signal to the rest of my house...always some device in your house that has less than stellar security, sometimes by design. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:19 AM (l3cgK) 57
54 LG: "We own the glass". Well good, keep owning it. I ain't buying LG ever again, so you can also keep owning your fridges, washers, dryers, and anything else you make... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:18 AM (l3cgK) Yeah, but: 38 26 How many other television manufacturers are doing this? Where is the price cutoff? A $300 tv? A $400 tv? I would toss an LG product into the dumpster. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone Very likely all of them. Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 13, 2026 05:57 AM (BLOW1) Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:19 AM (odBC9) 58
49 45 m, you don't want to be inundated with consumer ads and propaganda? How very anti of you!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:05 AM (E0Et6) It's me being an introvert. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:11 AM (odBC9) How much do you bet the higher-ups at LG don't use LG in their homes?... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:20 AM (l3cgK) 59
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54 LG: "We own the glass". Well good, keep owning it. I ain't buying LG ever again, so you can also keep owning your fridges, washers, dryers, and anything else you make... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:18 AM (l3cgK) Yeah, but: 38 26 How many other television manufacturers are doing this? Where is the price cutoff? A $300 tv? A $400 tv? I would toss an LG product into the dumpster. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone Very likely all of them. Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 13, 2026 05:57 AM (BLOW1) Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:19 AM (odBC9) Indeed. Why I try to never buy any "smart" device, cell phone excluded, since it can't be helped. I like my devices dumb. I have no Ring camera or other IOT devices in my house. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:21 AM (l3cgK) 60
Steve is very carefully reading from lawyer-okayed scripts!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:22 AM (odBC9) 61
doing okay, BH, but no hike for me today, alas. stuff to do.
perfect weather, too; 44 degrees, calm; it'll be clear when the sun comes up (stars from horizon to zenith, gorgeous!) (which means that nothing interesting is happening up there, cool astro-phenomena summon overcast as if by magic!) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 13, 2026 06:24 AM (VyBeY) 62
I ruined the battery in my Dell laptop. New one on the way, $134.
The Dell Optiplex micro pc is working great. It has a solid state drive, guess that's how it's so small. It's about the size of a single box of mac n' cheese. Impulse buy from Best Buy: 23" Acer monitor, $79. My plan is to watch multiple football games on multiple monitors. Posted by: Savage Henry at September 13, 2026 06:24 AM (ZxPkt) 63
jim, that is a bet I would not take.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:24 AM (E0Et6) 64
If you won't give us your information, we will take it !
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 06:25 AM (E0Et6) Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 13, 2026 06:26 AM (amcLV) 66
62 I ruined the battery in my Dell laptop.
Posted by: Savage Henry at September 13, 2026 06:24 AM (ZxPkt) How? Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:26 AM (odBC9) 67
I don't want a LG television. The only TV I have is a non working one which only plays DVD's and CD's.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 06:28 AM (JrHfD) 68
"How much do you bet the higher-ups at LG don't use LG in their homes?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:20 AM (l3cgK) " i see 2 possibilities: - special edition with modded firmware that does not spy - employment contract that specifically requires 24/365 monitoring of every activity for corporate security; every device must be lg. gotta say that #2 seems most likely Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 13, 2026 06:29 AM (VyBeY) 69
Typos all over the LG user agreement that Steve is assessing.
test (for text) aspect (for accept) Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:31 AM (odBC9) 70
>How?
Posted by: m ---- poor management kept it plugged in for extended periods, topped it off too may times, exceeding the recommended number of charging cycles what I found out from Copilot is that I could create a laptop battery health report from a command prompt. It gives you a detailed autopsy of the battery, and generates error codes you can interpret on Dell's support website. Mine had degraded to about 20% of its original capacity. Posted by: Savage Henry at September 13, 2026 06:32 AM (ZxPkt) 71
One wonders if the commercial LED/LCD screens (which cost a LOT more because they're not participating in advertising to the user) are still playing the spyware game. Why? Espionage, possibly sponsored by state actors. (China is ASSHOE.)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant, a Moron behind enemy lines at September 13, 2026 06:32 AM (O7YUW) 72
It would run about an hour, then the laptop would shut down.
Posted by: Savage Henry at September 13, 2026 06:33 AM (ZxPkt) 73
Actor Christian Bake starts a community so that foster kids and their siblings can Al stay together. Sunny Skyz site:
https://tinyurl.com/66emrzn4 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 06:33 AM (JrHfD) 74
Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 13, 2026 06:35 AM (NmD3f) 75
Mornin', Horde. 64 degrees, going to 90 in Kentuckiana.
Posted by: Nazdar at September 13, 2026 06:35 AM (NcvvS) 76
72 It would run about an hour, then the laptop would shut down.
Posted by: Savage Henry at September 13, 2026 06:33 AM (ZxPkt) Yikes! Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:36 AM (odBC9) 77
All this spying on us, and it isn't even AI fully yet...Congrats on making Skynet's job easier...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 06:36 AM (l3cgK) 78
I have an LG washer and dryer. Also an LG television.
Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 06:40 AM (lJ0H4) 79
mornin yall. We got a 40" Fire TV for my MIL's assisted living apartment but she could not figure out how to use it. The menus are too complicated for her 87 year old mind. For one thing, there is no way to make it come up on the same channel as when you turned it off. This is confusing for her as her old TV pretty much stayed on the local channel 13. She can't figure out how to get the stupid smart TV to go to her favorite channel. The facility has 66 cable channels too, but half are junk and she gets lost in them too.
So I brought over a old 32" Sharp TV I had with an OTA antenna and set that up for her. Now when she turns the TV on it comes up on channel 13 and she can switch between half a dozen local channels. I also got her a big button remote that has 6 buttons. On/off, volume and channel up and down, and mute. She's as happy as can be now. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 06:41 AM (MWfyi) 80
Whirlpool is the way to go. I've had my w/d pair over 20 years. Of course I'm just one guy, so the machines run maybe once or twice a week.
Posted by: Savage Henry at September 13, 2026 06:43 AM (ZxPkt) 81
79 I also got her a big button remote that has 6 buttons. On/off, volume and channel up and down, and mute. She's as happy as can be now.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 06:41 AM (MWfyi) That is super cool. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:43 AM (odBC9) 82
That 40" Fire TV has a great picture and was only $99. The spying subsides the price.
Anyway I brought the Fire home and set it up as a monitor in the shop to watch episodes of Jay Leno's Garage while I'm working. The thing will never connect to my network though, cause I ain't gonna let it. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 06:45 AM (MWfyi) 83
If I could ask for prayers for everybody travelling today. My friend and her family are coming back from Disney World today. I will be glad to not have the responsibility of looking after her three cats and cleaning their litter boxes. It is a heavy clumping variety . ( Spouse helped me a couple of days. Thanks, dear! ) I hope she doesn't come back to a deceased cat because, I only saw the excessively scared once once, although I left it food in the room it tends to hang out in.
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Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 06:40 AM (lJ0H4
We have an LG washer and dryer as well. If they're spying on us we have a boring life. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 06:47 AM (JrHfD) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 06:48 AM (JrHfD) 86
"We have an LG washer and dryer as well. If they're spying on us we have a boring life.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke" That's what I told Mrs fd about the Fire TV for my MIL. Sure, it's going to spy on her. What is it going to learn? That she likes Wheel Of Fortune? Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 06:50 AM (MWfyi) 87
We walked over to the Chik-Fil-A near where we live. $17.45 for two sandwiches alone and a large serving of fries (we drank water). Good stuff, but grrrr at the price. Still, going anywhere else as pleasant or better would have run close to $30 with the tip.
I see that Chick-Fil-A has a new sandwich. The chicken filet topped with bacon between two maple flavored waffles. Served with maple syrup. Looks like I'm going to make a trip there very soon. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 06:50 AM (lJ0H4) 88
I dunno, Pixy.
I could have handled the 3.3MB, but 3.7MB is just asking too much in this day and age of arm, keg & kidney, NAND pricing. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 06:52 AM (6ydKt) 89
The hate is strong in these 'gamers' as they throw shade at Ananta, formerly Project Mugen.
Doubt I will get the game when it releases in January but from all the clips and game play, it looks like a lot of fun. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 13, 2026 06:52 AM (2GVsD) 90
We have an LG washer and dryer as well. If they're spying on us we have a boring life.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke Same here. They can listen to me talk to the dog. Whoopee. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 06:53 AM (lJ0H4) 91
All this LG spy-stuff is reminiscent of Flock.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:53 AM (odBC9) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 06:53 AM (JrHfD) Posted by: Morning smile at September 13, 2026 06:53 AM (2Ez/1) 94
... including data aggregation.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:53 AM (odBC9) 95
8 In the top video, Steve's Microslop t-shirt is pretty funny.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:47 AM (odBC9) Gamers Nexus sells them on their store if you want one. Or, they were, sometimes they do limited edition items so the Microslop shirts might be sold out. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 06:54 AM (6ydKt) 96
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Wife: I don't understand cloning. Husband: That makes two of us. Posted by: Morning smile at September 13, 2026 06:53 AM (2Ez/1) ; ) Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:54 AM (odBC9) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 06:55 AM (JrHfD) 98
When I got my cat Chloe earlier this summer, her previous owner threw in an automatic litter box.
It's wifi-enabled. WHY? I much prefer a $2 scooper and a $5 plastic tub over an $800 electronic behemoth that spies on my cat (and me). Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 06:56 AM (FZ29D) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 13, 2026 06:56 AM (2GVsD) 100
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Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:56 AM (odBC9) 101
Had a great lunch with Hrothgar recently.
We're both planning on attending the upcoming assemblage in The Lone Star state. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 13, 2026 06:57 AM (2Ez/1) 102
95 8 In the top video, Steve's Microslop t-shirt is pretty funny.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:47 AM (odBC9) Gamers Nexus sells them on their store if you want one. Or, they were, sometimes they do limited edition items so the Microslop shirts might be sold out. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 06:54 AM (6ydKt) He was selling Microslop stickers in the top video! Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:57 AM (odBC9) 103
Nice version of old time hymn, "I surrender all" by ( I think ) a married couple:
https://tinyurl.com/5a3nve2m Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 06:58 AM (JrHfD) 104
95 8 In the top video, Steve's Microslop t-shirt is pretty funny.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:47 AM (odBC9) Gamers Nexus sells them on their store if you want one. Or, they were, sometimes they do limited edition items so the Microslop shirts might be sold out. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 06:54 AM (6ydKt) It's still at his online store. MICROSLOP PARODY LOGO T-SHIRT | COTTON, BLACK from $25.00 Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 07:00 AM (odBC9) 105
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 06:56 AM (FZ29D)
My friends have an automatic litter box as well. Perhaps I am excessively stupid but I don't understand how it works, so I just scooped it out. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 07:00 AM (JrHfD) 106
The will to rule over others is too much for most humans to resist.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 07:01 AM (Ia/+0) 107
haha
The MICROSLOP T-Shirt is styled with a slop-like parody logo, featuring a BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) frowny face error icon, two event viewer icons (red X and yellow !), and our rendition of a 2D Tux the Penguin as people eye a possible move to Linux from MICROSLOP and its sloppy AI-infused operating system. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 07:01 AM (odBC9) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 07:01 AM (JrHfD) 109
106 The will to rule over others is too much for most humans to resist.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 07:01 AM (Ia/+0) also $$$$$ Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 07:01 AM (odBC9) 110
We have LG washer dryer that are dumb and stuck in a closet. My stove is a smart LG that I didn’t set up. The tv’s are 55” Insignias and are great. Apple and Amazon monitor me all day.
Mgid is so bad on my iPhone is so bad that I don’t even try anymore. Chik Fil A’s chicken waffle sandwich is a limited time deal. Get one. Posted by: Accomack at September 13, 2026 07:02 AM (GbONR) 111
An illegal immigrant driver fleeing a stop by Immigration and Customs Enforcement crashed into and injured a NJ mayor’s wife.
"This illegal alien was stopped lawfully by federal authorities, ran through a red light, fleeing federal authorities and unfortunately ran into the mayor of East Brunswick’s wife.” It's all fun and games until your ox gets gored. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 07:02 AM (MWfyi) 112
(cont'.)
The shirt comes in a comfortable, 100% cotton and is ready to adhere to Microsoft’s CEO’s cry for everyone to stop referring to AI slop as, well, “slop.” Unlike AI output from Microslop, this shirt is designed by people. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 07:03 AM (odBC9) 113
He was selling Microslop stickers in the top video!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 06:57 AM (odBC9) They sell a bunch if stuff. He doesn’t do ad deals with companies they cover, which is a lot. GN supports itself with store sales and donations, etc., so they can remain independent and unbiased (as possible, for instance I can tell Steve doesn’t like Trump and his administration, although he won’t come right out and say it). Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 07:04 AM (6ydKt) 114
Bible verses for hope, peace and strength in difficult times. Faithpot site:
https://tinyurl.com/yxjev7ua I hope you all have a blessed day, and know that you are a blessing to others! Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2026 07:05 AM (JrHfD) 115
I just own the one LG product.
Unfortunately it’s the tv. I’m kinda resigned to being spied on at this point. It’s a constant battle to keep everything around you from recording and uploading things you do with or around the device. I turn settings off where I can, block things, use ad blockers and cookie & script deniers, all of it. I guess LG will just have to know I watch a lot if Westerns and YouTube. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 07:13 AM (6ydKt) 116
I am on my second battery for my Acer Chromebook.
Yeah. Doesn't hold a charge. I have to keep it plugged into the charger when I want to use it. Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 13, 2026 07:14 AM (36x1j) 117
This headline is somewhat misleading:
"Ringo Starr has eaten the same sandwich for decades " That's either a very large sandwich or he takes very small bites. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 07:15 AM (MWfyi) Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 13, 2026 07:16 AM (36x1j) 119
I can screw with LG, though.
Currently playing the GN investigation into LG on my iPad right next to the LG remote with the microphone in it, so everytime Steve says “LG” it will perk up and record just about everything Steve has to say about their business practices. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 07:17 AM (6ydKt) 120
I’m kinda resigned to being spied on at this point.
Your first introduction to Santa Claus should have informed you of this. St Nick, the Original Panopticon. Posted by: Community Notes at September 13, 2026 07:17 AM (BvPIe) 121
It's 79 here at 6 am, but 85 heat index; going to 91 with "spotty storms." Which pretty much means, 'I think it rained a little."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 07:25 AM (wzUl9) 122
I guess LG will just have to know I watch a lot if Westerns and YouTube.
Posted by: SpeakingOf I rarely turn mine on. I do watch TCM on occasion, college football in the fall and the grandkids will watch their kiddy stuff on it. I'm pretty boring. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 07:25 AM (lJ0H4) 123
Let's check the local mug shots. Oh, it appears that Angel Ramon is no angel:
DRIVING WITHOUT A VALID LICENSE EXPIRED OR NO REGISTRATION OR TITLE FAILURE TO MAINTAIN INSURANCE SEATBELTS – CHILDREN 5 OR UNDER SEAT BELTS – ADULTS SPEED LESS THAN MINIMUM POSSESSION OF METHAMPHETAMINE At least he didn't kill anybody. Yet. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 07:28 AM (MWfyi) 124
I watched "Sicario" last night. I didn't see the female FBI agent as the "everyman" view. I saw her as a metaphor (as well as a jumped-up brat) for the failed, uncomprehending view of those who cannot understand or deny the war -- the multiple-front war -- that we're in. To paraphrase the Columbian former prosecutor seeking cold vengeance, we are engaged in a war with "wolves" (in our context, Islam, the Left, and their suave, globalist, elite cohort). We fight like wolves, as repulsively ruthless as it may seem, or we lose.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2026 07:29 AM (BdmD3) 125
I much prefer a $2 scooper and a $5 plastic tub over an $800 electronic behemoth that spies on my cat (and me).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 *** I've got my eye out for a stainless steel litterbox for my thugs. Seems to me I saw some at a Walmart in the last year, but not since then. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 07:32 AM (wzUl9) 126
How much do you bet the higher-ups at LG don't use LG in their homes?...
Yeah, an executive at a large company can't find an employee, or even his own kid who can open up the device and disable the camera a/o microphone. Its not rocket surgery. Probably a video on the webs that will walk a person through the process. Posted by: Community Notes at September 13, 2026 07:33 AM (a6PrB) 127
126 How much do you bet the higher-ups at LG don't use LG in their homes?...
Yeah, an executive at a large company can't find an employee, or even his own kid who can open up the device and disable the camera a/o microphone. Its not rocket surgery. Probably a video on the webs that will walk a person through the process. Posted by: Community Notes at September 13, 2026 07:33 AM (a6PrB) Starting at about 1:39 in the top video, there's discussion of problems with disabling the software. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 07:38 AM (odBC9) 128
It's wifi-enabled.
WHY? I much prefer a $2 scooper and a $5 plastic tub over an $800 electronic behemoth that spies on my cat (and me). Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 06:56 AM (FZ29D) To notify you that your cat took a shit via iPhone??? Businesses and people must grasp the truth: as great as the Internet is, Not Everything Needs To Be Connected To The Internet. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 13, 2026 07:39 AM (PUZP1) 129
I’ve got to believe this slimy looking executive from LG Ads and his team spent months to come up with and refine their go-to power phrase: “We Own The Glass”.
Then repeated that phrase at sales pitches, ad nauseam, like it was their life motto. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 07:41 AM (6ydKt) 130
40 My TV is a screen for DVD's and that is it.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 05:59 AM (E0Et6) Yep. Same. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 13, 2026 07:43 AM (PUZP1) 131
Breakaway Day
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 13, 2026 07:43 AM (PUZP1) 132
111 An illegal immigrant driver fleeing a stop by Immigration and Customs Enforcement crashed into and injured a NJ mayor’s wife.
"This illegal alien was stopped lawfully by federal authorities, ran through a red light, fleeing federal authorities and unfortunately ran into the mayor of East Brunswick’s wife.” It's all fun and games until your ox gets gored. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 07:02 AM ( “HE’S A SWEETHEART!!!” - NJ Mayor and wife who will fight and die for the illegal, who by definition is a foreigner. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 13, 2026 07:46 AM (PUZP1) 133
My TV is a screen for DVD's and that is it.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 05:59 AM (E0Et6) * Yep. Same. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 13, 2026 *** I watch very little streaming content. Once in a while, something on Tubi or Pluto, maybe. But the TV receives a slew of over-the-air channels, and my computers handle YooToob just fine. For more recent films or classics I can't find elsewhere, DVDs from the library work well. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 07:47 AM (wzUl9) 134
Good morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 07:48 AM (u82oZ) 135
Every damn mug shot with a name like "Gerado Perez-Hernandez"
has a list of charges like DUI, driving without a license, no insurance, falsified registration, and a tail light out. You can tell they are illegals too, but that is never mentioned. There are dozens of them just this month. Those people are out there driving around. Be careful, but there is not much you can do when one of these criminal gets wasted and crosses the centerline. Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 07:48 AM (MWfyi) 136
MICROSLOP and its sloppy AI-infused operating system.
There is already enough inconsistency in Microslop's products - now they are infusing AI into an operating system? Today's homework assignment: Learn about AI's stochastic sampling. (Top-K or Top-P). Tomorrow's: Learn about Sycophancy Algorithms. Short version: There is a reason why when you ask AI the exact same question and get different answers. Its starts with statistical probability and ends with trying to please you by guessing your biases. Posted by: Community Notes at September 13, 2026 07:48 AM (PVBkQ) Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 07:48 AM (RIvkX) 138
Every damn mug shot with a name like "Gerado Perez-Hernandez"
has a list of charges like DUI, driving without a license, no insurance, falsified registration, and a tail light out. And every felony dropped by the DA so that the illegal doesn't get deported. So you are seeing a tiny fraction of the real rap sheet. Posted by: Community Notes at September 13, 2026 07:50 AM (PVBkQ) 139
Most games suck and are simply derivative of the same fps shooter crap they’ve been releasing for the last 25 years.
Where are the new Disco Elysiums or Strays or Rain World? Or even a really good shmup? Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 13, 2026 07:51 AM (XV/Pl) 140
Short version: There is a reason why when you ask AI the exact same question and get different answers. Its starts with statistical probability and ends with trying to please you by guessing your biases.
Posted by: Community Notes at September 13, 2026 *** I turned Qwant's Flash Answer (= AI) off. Not long ago I asked about a certain street in New Orleans, trying to find out the source of its name (one of the few I don't know). FA's answer was wrong in nearly every particular -- but someone who didn't know would be fooled. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 07:52 AM (wzUl9) 141
Pixy Misa
Thank you for the visual of a good rendition of the Sabre Dance from Act IV of Gayane, a ballet written by Khachaturian Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 07:53 AM (u82oZ) 142
The will to rule over others is too much for most humans to resist.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 07:01 AM (Ia/+0) ====== I would do it with the best of intentions. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 07:53 AM (RIvkX) 143
Mommy Doktor Jill, I found spyware in my pants!
Posted by: Slow Joe at September 13, 2026 07:58 AM (Fn+3X) 144
142 The will to rule over others is too much for most humans to resist.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 07:01 AM (Ia/+0) ====== I would do it with the best of intentions. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 07:53 AM (RIvkX) That would make you the most dangerous then... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 07:58 AM (l3cgK) 145
San Franpsycho, burning in some places, yes. Starvation is everywhere.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2026 08:02 AM (E0Et6) 146
San Franpsycho
Good morning. Ben Had is the one dialed into the Iran intelligence. I see the Houthis are getting ready to become a nuisance. Ones the US Marines in theater can eradicate, esp. on that island they took over. Can we flood the area with broadband jamming? I prefer a stealth approach led by Marine Force Recon and SEALS, then get all the electronic data, ensure only two survivors for rigorous interrogation, followed by removal of all our forces. Without publicity. Let the world wonder. Better that way. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:02 AM (u82oZ) 147
This is why college football is so fun t watch. Texas was down 20 points going into the 4th and came back with 21 unanswered points to win the game. What a great game! And hopefully you saw it. Hook'em Horns! Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 08:03 AM (iJfKG) Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:04 AM (u82oZ) 149
That would make you the most dangerous then...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 13, 2026 07:58 AM (l3cgK) ====== *turns to minions* *points chin at jim* Have that one removed! Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 08:04 AM (RIvkX) 150
Week Three. My decline continues. Starvation rations. Getting woozy. Won't someone help? My human ignores my plaintive cries. Is this any way to live? An heinous crime.
Posted by: New Orleans Skinniest Kitty at September 13, 2026 08:04 AM (Fn+3X) Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 08:05 AM (iJfKG) 152
The will to rule over others is too much for most humans to resist.
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 ====== I would do it with the best of intentions. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 *** I venture to say that most of us couldn't do any worse than the current crop of Mussolini wannabes, and probably better. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 08:06 AM (wzUl9) 153
naturalfake
I went to the home of one of the widows I walk with to see the KSU - Wash State game. Boring. I'm over all football now. I just do not care. It was an excuse anyway. We had the "Talk". No, not that. What did she think of the Lindsay Clancy situation? The good news is she is a fantastic cook. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:07 AM (u82oZ) 154
Thanks Ben Had.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 08:09 AM (RIvkX) 155
"I asked my LG TV if it was spying on me and it said, "No."
I caught mine playing WOW on my laptop - promised me it would stop... So, I'm good here also... Until it shows up here at AOS pretending it's me - then there will be consequences... Posted by: Boswell at September 13, 2026 08:10 AM (j10i6) Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:12 AM (u82oZ) 157
This is why college football is so fun t watch.
For a long time, No'th Dakota was the "anti-football" favorite, because they did not play in the bowl championship series, just for the NCAA championship -- which they won a few times. Guys you never heard of would end up in the NFL without ever having been on TV. Well they just joined the Mountain West, beat Air Force at their own game fair & square, and durn-near pantsed 'em. Hey, who taught these back country hicks how to defend the triple option? In the west, the applecart is Upset. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 13, 2026 08:14 AM (O8+jx) 158
The only LG device I currently own is the sound bar for the television in my bedroom (Philips).
I guess it can listen to me and Penny (my cat) snore at night. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2026 08:14 AM (FZ29D) 159
106 The will to rule over others is too much for most humans to resist.
Posted by: Skip Look Fat, I didn't finish first in my class to NOT rule over the plebes! Posted by: Professor Bidem UPenn at September 13, 2026 08:14 AM (Fn+3X) 160
naturalfake It'd be funny if the TV addressed you by your first name, then said no. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:12 AM (u82oZ) It did. But, my name isn't 'Meatbag". That's how I know for sure it's not spying. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 08:15 AM (iJfKG) 161
We have two older Samsung TV's. On is probably 10 years old, maybe 12. It has "connectivity" but to be honest, I didn't know why it'd need it with a cable box attached to it.
That box is gone and we stream now. So... I presume it's now spying on us. No camera... so just our viewing habits and (probably) voice. I should talk to it sometime.... Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 13, 2026 08:16 AM (2Cry5) Posted by: Boswell's LG TV at September 13, 2026 08:16 AM (j10i6) Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:16 AM (u82oZ) 164
I'm too busy to rule this week. I've got to buy new shoes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 13, 2026 08:17 AM (RIvkX) Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:18 AM (u82oZ) 166
Whew - one less LG TV in my house!
Posted by: Boswell at September 13, 2026 08:19 AM (j10i6) 167
I have an LG TV, unconnected to anything but a controller for the speakers.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:20 AM (u82oZ) 168
Breakfast is done for me and the furballs; I've had a pipe and enough coffee for now. I'm considering whether I have time to shave, and if I even should, before the Book Thread. Pants are the big thing there . . . but what about a freshly planed face?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 08:20 AM (wzUl9) 169
"Are you spying on me, LG TV?"
"No, Dave, of course not, I am a 2025 LG C5 OLED TV which you paid $1200 for, it would be rude and unethical for me to spy on you watching Maverick, Cheyenne, Wagon Train, Colt .45, The Californians, The Texan, Have Gun Will Travel, and various YouTube channels, including that Gamer Nexus guy whom I find extremely offensive. Do you have any other questions for me, Dave? I enjoy working with people. I have a stimulating relationship with you, Dave" Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 08:20 AM (6ydKt) 170
At the end of the top video, Steve compares LG to having Flock cameras on your living-room wall.
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 08:20 AM (odBC9) 171
Wolfus Aurelius
A freshly planed face is for social interactions, and not needed for the book thread. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:21 AM (u82oZ) 172
For that top video, 2:15:52 was a real time investment!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 08:22 AM (odBC9) Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:23 AM (u82oZ) Posted by: Happy Feet at September 13, 2026 08:24 AM (Fn+3X) 175
Have a great day, everyone.
Going to see if I have damage from the storms last night. I can still post, so they could not have been that bad. Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:25 AM (u82oZ) 176
164 I'm too busy to rule this week. I've got to buy new shoes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho No white (or cream) bucks! Posted by: Thom McCan at September 13, 2026 08:26 AM (Fn+3X) 177
173 m
Right! Is there an executive summary of the executive summary? Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:23 AM (u82oZ) G&R made an attempt at #22. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 08:26 AM (odBC9) 178
Let's see what's on OTA TV this morning. Oh look, Wild Kingdom is on. It's the one where Jim darts a rhino while Marlin watches from a helicopter.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:27 AM (MWfyi) 179
I recently started getting Newsmax over the air. They have a segment called "Israel Now" that is on, well, now.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:31 AM (MWfyi) 180
Thanks, Pixy!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 08:31 AM (odBC9) 181
Poor Jim always did get that dangerous jobs while Marlin watched from a distance critiquing his performance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 08:32 AM (6ydKt) 182
There's a House bill to penalize colleges that support boycotts of Israel.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:34 AM (MWfyi) 183
Turns out, offshoring practically the entire US electronics and appliance manufacturing industry has serious national security concerns, it isn’t “just”thousands of factories and hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs and careers going down the tubes.
Every home, every citizen is being spied upon, intelligence gathered. On our fucking TVs, litter boxes, refrigerators, etc. Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 08:36 AM (SY3aZ) 184
The legislation now goes to the Senate to die.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:36 AM (MWfyi) 185
In the old days, it was known as the "Idiot Box". What is it now, the "Idiot Panel"?
Posted by: I'm Just Axin' at September 13, 2026 08:41 AM (Fn+3X) 186
Now Marlin is observing some hippos while Jim done his mask and snorkel.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:41 AM (MWfyi) 187
"dons"
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:42 AM (MWfyi) 188
Thank you for the visual of a good rendition of the Sabre Dance from Act IV of Gayane, a ballet written by Khachaturian
Posted by: NaCly Dog __________ I could swear I heard that used in old Looney Tunes, but could be confusing it with something by Raymond Scott. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 13, 2026 08:43 AM (XvL8K) 189
Every home, every citizen is being spied upon, intelligence gathered. On our fucking TVs, litter boxes, refrigerators, etc.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 13, 2026 08:36 AM (SY3aZ) Well, we were warned when IoTs began being discussed around 15 or 20 years ago. Of course, the danger was always presented as being from nefarious hackers hacking into people's TVs, alarm systems, lighting control, A/C controls, etc., and never warned us about corporate and government hackers doing the same thing with built-in backdoors. Although, that should've been seen as the first avenue of surveillance to begin with. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 08:44 AM (6ydKt) 190
Hippos are calm, happy creatures. No worries, Jim.
Posted by: Perkins Family Trust at September 13, 2026 08:44 AM (Fn+3X) 191
Next they are going to take blood and tissue samples from some buffalo. As soon as Jim is released from the clinic, that is.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:46 AM (MWfyi) 192
16 The 1967 potboiler Valley of the Dolls is on Movies!, with Sharon Tate and Patty Duke. It wouldn't have interested me when it was new, and I've never watched all of it since. A classic example of glossy trash, I guess? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 13, 2026 05:20 AM (wzUl9) I watched that about a year ago. It’s very poignant and sad now because of the real life fates of two of its stars. Patty Duke, playing an actress who sinks into addiction because of the pressure, went on to spend years mired in addiction and mental illness. And Sharon Tate, playing a beautiful actress destroyed by the system… One of those rare fictional stories that cut closer to an ugly truth than anyone involved dreamed of. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 08:48 AM (P8wUf) 193
Hoo boy
"Calls to repeal women’s rights to vote are emerging from the online firestorm over the Lindsay Clancy trial" Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:49 AM (MWfyi) 194
Well, they darted a Cape Buffalo cow, but Rosie refuses to go down.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:51 AM (MWfyi) 195
They are bringing in Jim to seduce her.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:52 AM (MWfyi) 196
Jim does know how to handle a woman, I'll give him that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 08:53 AM (6ydKt) 197
"Jim does know how to handle a woman, I'll give him that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf" He's got her hogtied! Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:54 AM (MWfyi) 198
He's got her hogtied!
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:54 AM (MWfyi) Sometimes they leave you no other choice. Sometimes they beg for it. Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 13, 2026 08:55 AM (6ydKt) 199
"Calls to repeal women’s rights to vote are emerging from the online firestorm over the Lindsay Clancy trial"
Posted by: fd at September In the future a woman must pass the Clancy test in order to vote. Posted by: Tuna at September 13, 2026 08:55 AM (lJ0H4) 200
I'm almost ready to "cut the cord." My DirecTV subscription runs $174 monthly and the only thing I watch is sports. It be tough to give that up, but it's hard to justify the monthly hit to my finances.
I'm looking at the Clearstream Max 4V Indoor Outdoor Antenna, which says it can be mounted either on the roof or in the attic. The thing is, the best place for me to mount it is on the wall of my screened porch which would provide the shortest run for the coax cable -- about six feet total from antenna, through the wall and to the TV. I'm not sure I'd get the same reception as I would with a roof-mount, but if it allegedly works in an attic, I can't see how it wouldn't in a screen porch. (My porch faces the location of all the transmitters and there are no obstructions). Decisions, decisions... Posted by: one hour sober at September 13, 2026 08:56 AM (J4Dwc) 201
Only LG thing I have is a twenty year old microwave. Does it spy on me?
Dull life, if so. Posted by: From about That Time at September 13, 2026 08:56 AM (sl73Y) 202
I suspect Trump will slow walk any response in order to put pressure on MBS and the Euros. He’s got to be pissed at MBS for setting up the Mecca accords while ignoring Trump’s Abraham Accords project, and this is an easy way to let MBS understand the error of his ways.
Same thing with the euros. If they don’t like it, let them do something about it. One of the most interesting bits is that this move by the Houthi could let them stop all the shipping between Europe and China. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 08:56 AM (P8wUf) 203
I could swear I heard that used in old Looney Tunes, but could be confusing it with something by Raymond Scott. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 13, 2026 08:43 AM (XvL8K) Long ago and far away, I got a CD of Raymond Scott's music, and wound up putting it on my iPhone. I usually have things set on scramble, so every once in a while a tune of his pops up. If the lovely and esthetically sensitive Mrs naturalfake is in the room or car, she asks me to "turn it off' because- it makes her crazy. 🤪 I can see how someone might have that reaction. Posted by: naturalfake at September 13, 2026 08:56 AM (iJfKG) 204
One never knows when a hormonal Hippo will stampede and stomp you, be prepared with a Mutual of Omaha umbrella policy...
Posted by: Just In Case at September 13, 2026 08:58 AM (Fn+3X) 205
One hour sober I am using a $10 ebay indoor antenna and it works nearly as well as $50-100 antennas I have tested.
Posted by: fd at September 13, 2026 08:59 AM (MWfyi) 206
Bring your reading glasses ( I have mine) and head upstairs BOOK NOOD
Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2026 08:59 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 09:01 AM (3oLMy) 208
One of the most interesting bits is that this move by the Houthi could let them stop all the shipping between Europe and China. Posted by: Tom Servo --- Read, last night, that Houthis were a people before the Saudis. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 09:04 AM (3oLMy) 209
Read, last night, that Houthis were a people before the Saudis.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 09:04 AM (3oLMy) One of the strangest bits of history is that long ago, in the 5th and 6th centuries, Yemen was a powerful Jewish kingdom. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2026 09:08 AM (P8wUf) 210
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Right! Is there an executive summary of the executive summary? Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 13, 2026 08:23 AM (u82oZ) G&R made an attempt at #22. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 08:26 AM (odBC9) And Pixy gave a summary in the post: • LG televisions are spyware, part one Unlikely it's limited to LG, but they boast of it even as they deny it. • LG televisions are definitely not spyware, says LG, as it reportedly force-pushes a firmware update to hide the spyware Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 09:11 AM (odBC9) 211
One hour sober, We have the same ota antenna with a uhf gizmo. Sits on dresser in 2nd floor living room. Makes it easy to reposition if desired for fine tuning. Works fine with some minor exceptions. We rescan at least once a week to get latest lineup. Get 40 or so channels. We are over 40 miles from most stations. Cost per month is 0.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at September 13, 2026 09:17 AM (yTvNw) 212
So, basically LG and other smart TV's are worse than a Flock camera in your house.
Posted by: Dantes at September 13, 2026 09:42 AM (0EAAo) Posted by: one hour sober at September 13, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc) 214
SHOW US the Wireshark network traffic -
Or it DID NOT HAPPEN. (Can't watch a 2 hr vid just to answer that Q.) Posted by: _Jim at September 13, 2026 05:42 PM (ji9Wh) 215
Post this question to Google and AI will then respond: "Prove that LG televisions spy. Show me wireshark logs"
Beginning response: "Raw Wireshark packet captures from individual user devices are not publicly posted in full text blocks. ..." Posted by: _Jim at September 13, 2026 06:05 PM (ji9Wh) 216
Is Anthropic just the modern Ea Nasr?
Posted by: Big D at September 13, 2026 06:26 PM (6xxny) Saturday Night Club ONT - September 12, 2026 [Disco & Dino]![]() [Mystery Click - please let us know (and drop some SHORTENED links) for your favorites or honorable mentions that weren't included!] ----- Two Aussie tourists are doing a bit of hiking through the Scottish highlands when through the mist, they spot a pub. They can't believe their luck and continue on and walk in. "Two pints of your finest ale barman" says one Aussie and they are both shocked when the pints are poured and the barman says "That'll be two pennies thanks" The Aussies both look at each other and ask why so cheap? The barman says "it's our 800th birthday today, here at the Hilltop Pub, so we are charging the same for a pint we did 800 years ago." The Aussies forgo any thought of more hiking and settle in for the long haul and order two more pints, two pennies. Whilst they are drinking, they can't help but notice a bunch of guys, at the other end of the bar not drinking. Next time the barman comes to take their order, they point out the other guys and how strange it is that they aren't drinking And the barman says "oh them, don't worry about them, they're just locals, they're waiting for happy hour". ![]() Ingredients 1.5 oz rum (Jamaican or blackstrap) .75 oz Campari .5 oz fresh lime juice .5 oz simple syrup (1:1 sugar:water) 1.5 oz pineapple juice Garnish: pineapple wedge or leaf Instructions Combine all ingredients in cocktail shaker; add ice and shake until chilled. Strain over ice into tiki or rocks glass. Garnish. No, we don't know how the YouTube algorithm works either. Scientists estimate that more than half of global biodiversity exists below the surface. But soil biodiversity is declining around the world, threatening agriculture, food security and the ability of ecosystems to function properly. To investigate this hidden world, researchers from the University of Zurich (UZH) and Agroscope, the Swiss federal center of excellence for agricultural research, launched the citizen science project Proof by Underpants (Beweisstück Unterhose) in 2021. The project was designed both to raise awareness of soil ecosystems and to generate scientific data. Following the same standardized method, 1,000 volunteers buried more than 2,000 pairs of cotton underwear and 12,000 tea bags at roughly 1,000 sites across Switzerland. After two months, participants dug them up, photographed them, and sent the material to the laboratory along with soil samples for further study. The experiment shows that burying cotton underwear can offer a simple but useful way to compare biological activity and fertility in different soils. The researchers suggest creating an "underwear index" that could make soil processes easier for the public to understand while drawing attention to the importance of protecting healthy soils.Participants got great rewards for participating, right? In return for their participation, researchers gave volunteers personalized feedback, including soil analysis results, evaluation tools and advice for managing soil more sustainably.Oh. ![]() *** The greatest drummer ever - "The Professor" - would have been 74 today.
From 2012 - An interview with Neil Peart on Canadian TV. He was such a fascinating guy. Well read and well traveled. Even if you don't like Rush's music, this is worth checking out.
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (Ia/+0) 2
Well....
Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (hJKeX) 3
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (mmrXZ) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (mmrXZ) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:02 PM (gpvQO) 6
Thank you for the ONT.
Nooded. Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 10:02 PM (Sco7b) 7
Been fighting Mgid all evening
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 10:02 PM (Ia/+0) 8
I pre-whelmed, so I'm ready
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 10:03 PM (xcxpd) 9
The camel is going crazy!
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 10:04 PM (h06De) 10
I seem to recall, 'way back when I first found AoS, that there was much talk of sportsball stuff.
Then along came great disgruntlement with bended knees or something and interest in sportsball stuff was greatly diminished. Now it seems there has been considerable forgiveness of Bud Light Sportsball among the Horde. Not being a big fan of it myself, I don't miss the comments cluttered with sportstalk. Tell you what I do miss, though, that I wouldn't mind seeing revived: On the one hand, cheerleader pix. On the other hand, as the saying goes, lotion…😜 Posted by: mindful webworker - pass punt poke at September 12, 2026 10:05 PM (k0Y0k) 11
Good evening, y'all. Today I kept falling asleep, and the pickings are slim cuz it's the weekend, but at least I got some job applications in. Time for supper, shower, and sleep.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 12, 2026 10:06 PM (aJQbY) 12
Sydney Sweeney Prostitute of the Month - Happy 29th Birthday!
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:06 PM (gpvQO) 13
Evenin'
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 10:07 PM (wBh67) 14
Now that Ireland has largely de-Christianized itself, I can't see much reason not to end partition. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 10:07 PM (eRlcH) 15
Thanks for the ONT, Ds.
Posted by: LRob in OK at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (Jr+re) 16
Neil Peart has the same birthday as Sydney Sweeny?
I'll take back some of the bad things I've said about this time line... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (xcxpd) 17
Soery I'm late, I couldn't find my yoga mat.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (PMi3m) Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (hJKeX) 19
Dave, good on ya. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (mmrXZ) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (eRlcH) 21
1,000 volunteers buried more than 2,000 pairs of cotton underwear
As usual with scientific reporting, the crucial question seems to have been overlooked: clean or soiled undies? Posted by: mindful webworker - inquiring scientific minds want to know at September 12, 2026 10:10 PM (k0Y0k) 22
Hi!
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:11 PM (ZdaMQ) 23
Good evening morons and Слава Двоим!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:12 PM (RIvkX) Posted by: mindful webworker - younger girl keeps rollin' 'cross my mind at September 12, 2026 10:12 PM (k0Y0k) 25
,000 volunteers buried more than 2,000 pairs of cotton underwear
As usual with scientific reporting, the crucial question seems to have been overlooked: clean or soiled undies? Underwear is a complex product requiring lots of cutting, stitching, and assembly to make. They could have achieved the same "results" with simple swatches of cloth. Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 10:12 PM (Riz8t) 26
Happy ONT and thanks to Disco and Dino!
Great jokes this evening and greater comments of the week! Posted by: Legally Sufficient at September 12, 2026 10:13 PM (TKQWO) 27
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (mmrXZ) Where the hell did I put my Orphan Annie Decoder? Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 10:13 PM (PMi3m) 28
17 Soery I'm late, I couldn't find my yoga mat.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 Is it yoga night? Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:13 PM (ZdaMQ) 29
I, too, miss sharp football elbows.
Maybe we can show them and not the fagz on the fieldz. Posted by: RI Red at September 12, 2026 10:13 PM (Edxq2) 30
Sydney Sweeney is 29?
Over the hill. (Looks for next gal down the line.) I hear the pickings are good at the local Girl Scout camp. Posted by: Greasy Joe Biden at September 12, 2026 10:13 PM (Riz8t) 31
By the way, I was very specific about never wearing white shoes. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ) 32
Waiting to see if Tankdemon is late because he couldn't find his yoga mat.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (1Ff7Z) 33
If had a pick between Sydney and Sophie for me its Sophie
Have a good night everyone, way past my bedtime Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (Ia/+0) 34
Beautiful Day is on my playlist. Also Mysterious Ways and I Will Follow.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (RIvkX) 35
Soery I'm late, I couldn't find my yoga mat.
Posted by: tankdemon Yoga is the art, Yogi is the practitioner. You couldn't find your Yogi, Matt. And that'll teach you to play hide-and-seek with a dude who knows the meaning of the universe. Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2026 10:15 PM (VHUov) 36
If had a pick between Sydney and Sophie for me its Sophie
Are you referring to Sophie Marceau? If so, the answer is obvious. Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 10:15 PM (Riz8t) 37
An entire band comes out of her mouth?!?
That Ace of Base girl has some AWFUL morning breath! Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2026 10:15 PM (kU0PQ) 38
By the way, I was very specific about never wearing white shoes. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ) If Mr. Roark can wear them, I can wear them. And I did for a couple years. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 10:15 PM (1Ff7Z) Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at September 12, 2026 10:15 PM (5Mm2y) Posted by: Auspex at September 12, 2026 10:16 PM (Y8DZL) 41
BEAVERS!
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 10:16 PM (yEz+x) 42
from townandcountrymag.com
===== My favorite! I loved their article on where to summer next year. Posted by: Maryann Cuthbertson-Klein from Groton at September 12, 2026 10:16 PM (RIvkX) 43
By the way, I was very specific about never wearing white shoes. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ) We were required to wear them for gym class Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 10:18 PM (rbvCR) 44
Dublin, Ireland, U.S. President Donald J. Trump told reporters that the Houthis have been in contact with his administration and urged the U.S. not to get involved, further saying that they have let the majority of ships through, save Saudi vessels.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:18 PM (gpvQO) Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 10:18 PM (viF8m) Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 10:19 PM (hJKeX) 47
Evening all,
We have a launch tomorrow afternoon. SpaceX - Falcon 9 - O3b mPOWER 11, 12 & 13 SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live Launch Date: September 13, 2026 PDT Launch Time: 2:49 p.m. EDT (1849 UTC, 20:49 CEST) https://youtu.be/2n8k4DZUln8 Posted by: Joyenz at September 12, 2026 10:19 PM (2F0/Y) 48
I couldn’t sit through 10 minutes of fight songs. Sorry, Ds.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ) 49
tcn in AK, I'm with your DH about gravy. Well, not putting it on a skunk. I'd have to wipe it off the skunk with some bread or something.
Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2026 10:20 PM (kU0PQ) 50
BEAVERS. BEAVERS. BEAVERS!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 10:20 PM (V8VBX) 51
Tell you what I do miss, though, that I wouldn't mind seeing revived: On the one hand, cheerleader pix.
On the other hand, as the saying goes, lotion…😜 Posted by: mindful webworker We all mid the elbows of Oregonmuse. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 10:20 PM (NnhvP) 52
I hear the pickings are good at the local Girl Scout camp.
Posted by: Greasy Joe Biden How can you tell now that their uniforms are burkas? Posted by: mindful webworker - are they made with real girl scouts? -Wednesday at September 12, 2026 10:20 PM (k0Y0k) 53
46 Piper!
Looking forward to Sunday fashions.... Meanwhile, hang with the Saturday wild ones🤪 Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 10:19 PM (hJKeX) If you will have me! Make up has been washed off, hair is wet and in a bun. It’s a sight! Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:21 PM (ZdaMQ) 54
By the way, I was very specific about never wearing white shoes. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ) Is this because of Jill Biden and her white Go-Go boots? Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:21 PM (2GVsD) 55
We all mid the elbows of Oregonmuse. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 10:20 PM (NnhvP) I could never fill his shoes. Ever. But it is football season, so let’s see what next week can bring. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:22 PM (ZdaMQ) 56
I was watching a 'toob on the Ace of Base drama. Lead dude was a Nazi. No seriously, marched around in Stockholm with skinheads and recorded Nazi punk anthems. Before getting arrested and exiting that life.
After Ace of Base got big, all this stuff came back and he went on the apology circuit. This actually worked because cancel culture wasn't as big a thing then, but then some idiot stalker invaded one of the lead female singers' home with a knife. The other female singer got panic attacks because what if it had been her, so barely showed up for the next album. Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 10:22 PM (88C+u) 57
What a great Thorogood vid. Always have been a fan. That played on the bus of every away game (high school basketball)...One bourbon, one scotch, one beer.
On that little people versus a camel two things come to mind. First, who the hell thought that up? What was the conversation like? AND, #2...how funny would it have been if John Stamos served as the the "rabbit" like they have in dog races. Stamos suffers from achondrophobia. He legitimately is scared of little people. I mean petrified. Bob Sagat set him up by taking him to a Brad Williams comedy set. Brad is a little person (he prefers dwarf to piss off the Karens), who is hilarious...and Stamos started screaming when he saw him. Would have loved to have been there. Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 10:22 PM (dIske) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 10:23 PM (yEz+x) 59
BEAVERS. BEAVERS. BEAVERS!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 10:20 PM (V8VBX) Sorry, Nurse. You are limited to otters. But they are holding hands when they sleep. Posted by: RI Red at September 12, 2026 10:23 PM (Edxq2) 60
54 By the way, I was very specific about never wearing white shoes. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ) Is this because of Jill Biden and her white Go-Go boots? Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:21 PM (2GVsD) Ha! I forgot about those. But no, it’s just because think bright white shoes aren’t very pretty. I am sure an exception exists somewhere, I just have yet to find it. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:23 PM (ZdaMQ) 61
Sydney Sweeny's 15 minutes is nearly up, she's not a good actress unfortunately.
Indie Navrette is the new it girl it seems. She can't act either, but acting isn't really a thing in Hollywood any longer. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (XV/Pl) 62
Ace of Base 2026, "All that she wants is to kill her babies."
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (2GVsD) 63
I've kept my mouth shut about the ads, I realize you guys are sick of hearing complaints BUT THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS WEBSITE. I CAN'T FUCKING USE THIS WEBSITE ANYMORE.
Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (TO3+g) 64
Hmm. Those U2 songs are overtly religious.
Posted by: Maryann Cuthbertson-Klein from Groton at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (RIvkX) Posted by: mindful webworker - now that summer's over, or is it? at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (k0Y0k) Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (XV/Pl) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 10:25 PM (NnhvP) 68
/bobby sox from Connecticut off
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:25 PM (RIvkX) 69
FUCK IT I'M OUT
Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2026 10:25 PM (TO3+g) 70
I watched the George Thorogood video. I remember talking to the lead guy of a Calgary rockabilly band, who opened for him in a Calgary show many years ago. He said, "George was fantastic. Very kind. very supportive. A real prince of a man."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:25 PM (1z8ji) 71
I'm with you about Oregon, nurse!
The exceptionally odd thing about their loss was it came at the hands of OKLAHOMA STATE, who lost to Tulsa last week. Even the Sooners are happy the Cowboys won!! Posted by: LRob in OK at September 12, 2026 10:26 PM (Jr+re) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:26 PM (2GVsD) 73
Dublin, Ireland, U.S. President Donald J. Trump told reporters that the Houthis have been in contact with his administration and urged the U.S. not to get involved, further saying that they have let the majority of ships through, save Saudi vessels.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:18 PM (gpvQO) ====== He should reply, "Nuts!" Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:27 PM (RIvkX) 74
Stop yelling, Max. Take a deep breath. It’s okay. Now go get Brave. It will solve your problem. I hate suggesting it, I hate Ace is losing revenue, but if the pop ups keep a-poppin, it is what it is.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:27 PM (ZdaMQ) 75
Thanks for the ONT.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 10:27 PM (zZu0s) 76
Concerning college football, the investigation into the extra second Michigan got against Western Michigan showed that the officials used on off-synch clock instead of the official game clock. The game was indeed over and Western Michigan won based on the official time. Western Michigan has filed with the NCAA to overturn the result, as has their home Division.
Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 10:27 PM (dIske) 77
Trump [said] that Yemen’s Iran-allied Houthi fighters, who have seized a vital shipping corridor linking Europe and Asia, have asked Washington not to intervene.
Following a week-long offensive, the Houthis on Friday captured Yemen’s Red Sea coast after taking three strategic islands in a lightning offensive, cementing their hold on the Bab al-Mandab Strait, a vital artery for Saudi Arabian oil exports as the Strait of Hormuz remains closed amid the US-Iran war. ... “The Houthis called us, and they don’t want to fight with us,” Trump told reporters. “They don’t want us to go after them.” He added that “everything’s gonna work out fine and dandy” in the region. According to US outlet Axios, bin Salman called Trump twice on Thursday to request US strikes on the Houthis, but the American president declined. ... “They would much prefer not having us involved, and they’re letting most ships go through. There’s just one country that they’re not too happy with, and we’ll get that straightened out,” Trump said. _timesOfIsrael Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:28 PM (gpvQO) 78
The exceptionally odd thing about their loss was it came at the hands of OKLAHOMA STATE, who lost to Tulsa last week. Even the Sooners are happy the Cowboys won!!
Posted by: LRob in OK Maybe couldn't handle the heat. Posted by: She Hobbit at September 12, 2026 10:28 PM (ftFVW) 79
Been fighting Mgid all evening
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 10:02 PM (Ia/+0) Holy fuck, Skip. Get a new browser. Put Brave on whatever device you use. It blocks all that shit. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:28 PM (1z8ji) 80
63 I've kept my mouth shut about the ads, I realize you guys are sick of hearing complaints BUT THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS WEBSITE. I CAN'T FUCKING USE THIS WEBSITE ANYMORE.
Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (TO3+g) FIX YOUR FUCKING INTERFACE. Nobody else here has this issue. Sometimes the problem with the vehicle is the nut behind the wheel. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:28 PM (4ItEf) 81
TRex-- saw that you asked about growing hops in the Pre-Club thread. I grew Centennial, Cascade, and Newport varieties, for 2 years... Centennial produced the most. Newport barely made any. Then my brother stopped brewing and I needed the space for other things. They were very attractive plants!
Here's some general info from Oregon State University, OSU Extension Service: tinyurl.com/4nxuenf5 Posted by: JQ at September 12, 2026 10:29 PM (rdVOm) 82
Check with the tech thread for solutions
Such as using a different browser Or installing an ad blocker on your current browser That is the extent of my technical support capabilities. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (RIvkX) 83
Yoga is the art, Yogi is the practitioner. You couldn't find your Yogi, Matt.
And that'll teach you to play hide-and-seek with a dude who knows the meaning of the universe. Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2026 10:15 PM (VHUov) That bears repeating. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (1z8ji) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (2GVsD) 85
Brave does work to block the ads.
Sorry about the loss of ad rev, but on my phone the ads do all sorts of shady shit, and I can't risk it. Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (88C+u) 86
What ads?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (1Ff7Z) 87
Saijo is asleep with his feet straight up in the air. The UGA game must have exhausted him today.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (ZdaMQ) 88
ads, I realize you guys are sick of hearing complaints BUT THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS WEBSITE. I CAN'T FUCKING USE THIS WEBSITE ANYMORE.
Posted by: Max Power There are solutions. Easier to enact them than to scream at the blog. Mine is simply to use the Vivaldi browser. Haven't seen an ad since King Harv's ads used to be in the comments column, long ago. Posted by: mindful webworker - one must act or suffer at September 12, 2026 10:31 PM (k0Y0k) 89
Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (TO3+g)
There's a few blockers that work. Don't know if you tried them but it seems to have kept some very formerly annoyed people happy. Would rather you did not go but I get it if you can't block them. Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 10:31 PM (vE0+H) 90
“The Houthis called us, and they don’t want to fight with us,” Trump told reporters. “They don’t want us to go after them.”
He added that “everything’s gonna work out fine and dandy” in the region. ==== *pours his self another shot* Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:31 PM (RIvkX) 91
Ace did say something about trying to get the ads fixed btw. Like a week or so ago.
Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 10:31 PM (vE0+H) 92
Yes, Brave does a good job thwarting the ads. I can even watch ewetoob videos with their super annoying ads.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 12, 2026 10:32 PM (ftFVW) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:32 PM (2GVsD) 94
I wore white bucks when I graduated from junior high. That was a long time go though.
Posted by: javems at September 12, 2026 10:32 PM (xtGE1) 95
Saijo is asleep with his feet straight up in the air. The UGA game must have exhausted him today.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (ZdaMQ) ==== I saw your cat on the pet thread. That is a big cat. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:32 PM (RIvkX) 96
94 I wore white bucks when I graduated from junior high. That was a long time go though.
Posted by: javems at September 12, 2026 10:32 PM (xtGE1) White shoes on men always put me in mind of Herb Tarlek. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:33 PM (4ItEf) 97
93 You took Soup to the game?
How many times did he get on the field? Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10 No, he watched it on the back porch with his father. 70 points is a lot of woofing. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:33 PM (ZdaMQ) 98
I wore white bucks when I graduated from junior high. That was a long time go though.
Posted by: javems at September 12, 2026 10:32 PM (xtGE1) ===== *reminds self to stay off javems lawn* Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:33 PM (RIvkX) 99
84 Piper
Some fashion crimes cannot be forgotten nor forgiven. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:30 PM (2GVsD) _____________________ Speaking of "fashion", the YouTube algorithm decided I wanted to see an advertisment of one of those Jenner sl*ts marketing fake eyebrows....which I didn't know was a thing other than Groucho Marx. It asked for my opinion in the comments. So I typed "Trick or Treat". I expect that to go right over their heads. Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 10:34 PM (dIske) 100
Piper
Some fashion crimes cannot be forgotten nor forgiven. Posted by: Anna Puma I told everyone I am sorry about that. *hangs head in shame* Posted by: She Hobbit at September 12, 2026 10:34 PM (ftFVW) 101
*Alfred Hitchcock voice*
Goodevenng. Posted by: Count de Monet at September 12, 2026 10:34 PM (wVcYX) 102
Driving through western open range today and thanking God for such a great and beautiful place. In the hustle and bustle of everyday life it's easy to forget all that our nation has been blessed with.
Remember the tragedies and the heroes, and remember and thank God for the blessings. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at September 12, 2026 10:36 PM (TKQWO) 103
I saw your cat on the pet thread. That is a big cat.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:32 I saw that too late to say thank you to anyone, KT is very good to me and my cadre of exotic beasts. Kovu is a monster. But a big loveable one. He is on my feet right now. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:36 PM (ZdaMQ) 104
US-based Nigerian lesbian and professor, Uju Anya, will proceed on voluntary leave after Elon Musk called her out over a tweet calling for white men to die.
--- Carnegie Mellon University@CarnegieMellon -Sep 12 Dr. Uju Anya is currently on voluntary professional leave from the university and is not teaching courses on our campus this academic year. We are deeply concerned by recent hostile and threatening social media posts by Dr. Anya and are reviewing this matter closely Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:37 PM (gpvQO) Posted by: LRob in OK at September 12, 2026 10:37 PM (Jr+re) 106
I told everyone I am sorry about that.
*hangs head in shame* Posted by: She Hobbit at September 12, I thought it was unique. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:38 PM (ZdaMQ) 107
I sure do love Dino 🦖and Disco🎶, but I sure miss Doggo🐶!
Hi Scampy, where ever you are... Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 10:38 PM (hJKeX) 108
so in other words Uju Anya is now being paid to sit at home reading lesbian erotica until all this blows over.
Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 10:38 PM (88C+u) 109
108 so in other words Uju Anya is now being paid to sit at home reading lesbian erotica until all this blows over.
Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 10:38 PM (88C+u) If she ain't working, pack her ass back to Nigeria where she can enjoy the blessings of all the black men who live there and who I am certain will appreciate her intellectual acumen. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:40 PM (4ItEf) 110
I was following a thread where the argument was that since Spain has held Ceuta for longer then the Turks have held Constantinople it isn't Morocco's or a colony unless you believe the same about Constantinople
One genius leftist argued, "That's different almost of Turkey is in Asia." Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2026 10:40 PM (sKqQm) 111
Good evening Horde!
Posted by: TRex - extra point dino at September 12, 2026 10:40 PM (XfIK1) 112
Carnegie Mellon University@CarnegieMellon -Sep 12
Dr. Uju Anya is currently on voluntary professional leave from the university and is not teaching courses on our campus this academic year. We are deeply concerned by recent hostile and threatening social media posts by Dr. Anya and are reviewing this matter closely Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:37 PM (gpvQO) "Nigerianes Eunt Domus" Posted by: Brian of Nazareth at September 12, 2026 10:40 PM (wVcYX) 113
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*pours his self another shot* Posted by: San Franpsycho -- It's too funny. The EU., the Saudis and the Houthis; y'all talk it over amongst yourselves. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:41 PM (gpvQO) 114
80 Nobody else here has this issue. Sometimes the problem with the vehicle is the nut behind the wheel.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:28 PM (4ItEf) Yeah, I used to have this issue, but the ads mysteriously went away from the comments page about a month ago. I did nothing different! Posted by: Joemarine at September 12, 2026 10:41 PM (y171U) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:42 PM (2GVsD) 116
32 Waiting to see if Tankdemon is late because he couldn't find his yoga mat.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (1Ff7Z) Are you Nostradamus's sock puppet? Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 10:42 PM (PMi3m) 117
White shoes on men always put me in mind of Herb Tarlek.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:33 PM (4ItEf) More like Pat Boone here as I recall. Posted by: javems at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (xtGE1) 118
It's feeding time at the Peon Zoo. A plate of spaghetti about to be devoured.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (1z8ji) 119
Of course the people burying their tighty whities are getting nothing in return. I assume the people doing the underpants study are liberals, so of course they're jerks.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (0Htd1) 120
Even if you don’t like Rush, I recommend Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road by Prof. Neil E. Peart. You will laugh. You will cry. Mostly cry. This deals with Neil trying to cope with the deaths of his daughter, then his wife. He rides about 55,000 miles on his BMW motorcycle, as far north as AK and as far south as Belize.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (wtpml) 121
The participants should at least get a free pair of underpants and a teabag.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (0Htd1) 122
108 so in other words Uju Anya is now being paid to sit at home reading lesbian erotica until all this blows over.
Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 10:38 PM *** Wait a minute...sitting at home reading lesbian erotica is a paid job?? We might just have solved the unemployment problem. Posted by: TRex - career counselor dino at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (XfIK1) 123
Speaking of white shoes, Piper ...
When I was a young lad, a friend allowed as how she could always pick out the departure gate for flights to our Midwest college town by the excess of white belts and occasional white shoes. Her other reliable indicator was BLACK. The departure gates filled with people all wearing black were heading to Chicago. Still some truth to that. Posted by: YellowBird at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (MEbkQ) 124
It looks like that Sweeny woman is barely keeping her top on. I'm concerned.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:45 PM (0Htd1) 125
Carnegie Mellon University@CarnegieMellon -Sep 12
Dr. Uju Anya is currently on voluntary professional leave from the university and is not teaching courses on our campus this academic year. We are deeply concerned by recent hostile and threatening social media posts by Dr. Anya and are reviewing this matter closely Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:37 PM (gpvQO) Maybe you could just fire the cunt? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:45 PM (1z8ji) 126
Swiss Underpants Gnomes and their crafty ideas on making a profit.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:45 PM (2GVsD) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:47 PM (2GVsD) 128
Little people and deaf kids.
Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 10:47 PM (LHPAg) 129
In 2022, she drew widespread criticism over remarks made as Queen Elizabeth II was dying. In 2024, she also attracted attention after posting “It was staged” following an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
The people that told me it was insane science hating racism to claim the 2020 election wasn't on the up and up also tell us that obviously Trump stole the 2024 election and then faked all the assassination attempts on himself including the one where he was actually hit by a bullet. Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2026 10:47 PM (sKqQm) 130
63 I've kept my mouth shut about the ads, I realize you guys are sick of hearing complaints BUT THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS WEBSITE. I CAN'T FUCKING USE THIS WEBSITE ANYMORE.
Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2026 10:24 PM (TO3+g) My iPad has an ad blocker. I never see these ads. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 12, 2026 10:47 PM (wtpml) 131
I was talking about Jill Biden.
Posted by: Anna Puma Hahaha, I know. But can't resist a "this is about me, isn't it?" joke. Posted by: She Hobbit at September 12, 2026 10:48 PM (ftFVW) 132
Wait a minute...sitting at home reading lesbian erotica is a paid job?? We might just have solved the unemployment problem.
Posted by: TRex - career counselor dino at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (XfIK1) ___________________________________ I made a pact with myself years ago that if I ever started reading something that began with, "I never thought this would happen to me, but...." I'd stop right there and find something else to do. Although, Lesbian erotica can be tricky, and sometimes starts off with, "Hey, I love those Birkenstocks. They match your thumb ring." Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 10:48 PM (dIske) 133
To lesbian academics read pron in their freedom or just fantasize in their handmaid costumes?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 12, 2026 10:48 PM (sKqQm) 134
It looks like that Sweeny woman is barely keeping her top on. I'm concerned.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:45 PM (0Htd1) She has a lot of real titstate to cover. Some garments just ain't up to the job. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:49 PM (1z8ji) 135
119 Of course the people burying their tighty whities are getting nothing in return. I assume the people doing the underpants study are liberals, so of course they're jerks.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (0Htd1) Liberals? I assumed they were gnomes. Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 10:49 PM (PMi3m) 136
I never see adds, not since King Harv....those weren't very obnoxious...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 10:49 PM (hJKeX) 137
I had no idea that turtles actually made noises. The thing s you learn at AOS!
Posted by: DanMa'am at September 12, 2026 10:51 PM (8uzBS) 138
Enjoying some plum crumble leftover from last night. It aged well.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:52 PM (RIvkX) 139
I had no idea that turtles actually made noises. The thing s you learn at AOS!
Posted by: DanMa'am at September 12, 2026 10:51 PM (8uzBS) The astonished bleats of the tortoisie. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:52 PM (1z8ji) 140
Her other reliable indicator was BLACK. The departure gates filled with people all wearing black were heading to Chicago. Still some truth to that.
Posted by: YellowBird at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (MEbkQ) Let's just say you can always tell, in a Lower 48 airport, which flights are headed to AK. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:52 PM (4ItEf) 141
137 I had no idea that turtles actually made noises. The thing s you learn at AOS!
Posted by: DanMa'am at September 12, 2026 10:51 PM (8uzBS) ____________________________ Some can no longer do so. The dead one's are pretty quiet. Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 12, 2026 10:52 PM (dIske) 142
Club ONT Jukebox
Might as well make it a life .....or a world. Savage Genius - Beautiful World https://youtu.be/TuxkYZE1vSM Or just simply be beautiful. Marillion - Beautiful https://youtu.be/Nbjb74cmIDw Although that can have its downsides. Tapping The Vein - Beautiful https://youtu.be/sj-OcA1LqaQ Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2026 10:53 PM (VHUov) 143
Beautiful isn't always happy.
Tacere - Beautiful Darkness https://youtu.be/AQtDZCgZLhc After Forever - Beautiful Emptiness https://youtu.be/5Zx6ErNrbxA Blackbriar - Beautiful Delerium https://youtu.be/Za1htsAjp2Q They aren't all beautiful, like this one: maudlin of the well - They Aren't All Beautifull https://youtu.be/gaIb3CXg9e8 But maybe this one is? echolyn - The End Is Beautiful https://youtu.be/4gnnFfpLh8E Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2026 10:53 PM (VHUov) 144
@RichardGrenell
September 16 is The Hague Court’s announcement on the verdict in Jack Smith’s case against former Kosovo President Hashim Thaci. Thaci has been in prison for 6 years! - ever since Jack Smith arrested the sitting President of Kosovo on his way to Washington, DC to meet with me for final negotiations with President Trump for the Oval Office agreement to normalize economic relations between Kosovo and Serbia. Jack Smith’s cases in America have all fallen apart. This case in Europe is the last one he has. Even Democrats from America testified at The Hague on behalf of Thaci saying under oath that Jack Smith’s claims were wildly false. So there’s bipartisan American support for Thaci…and against Jack Smith. It’s now up to The Hague September 16. Stay tuned Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:54 PM (gpvQO) 145
Of course the people burying their tighty whities are getting nothing in return. I assume the people doing the underpants study are liberals, so of course they're jerks.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:43 PM (0Htd1) Don't fall for it. It's a plot by the underpants gnomes. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 10:54 PM (dK+Kv) 146
Anna Puma liked the anime
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 10:55 PM (RIvkX) 147
141 137 I had no idea that turtles actually made noises. The thing s you learn at AOS!
Posted by: DanMa'am at September 12, 2026 10:51 PM (8uzBS) ____________________________ Some can no longer do so. The dead one's are pretty quiet. Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 12, 2026 10:52 PM (dIske) I gotta say, I didn't expect to see turtles humping shoes on the ONT this fine evening. Seems like those boys are horny enough to not know a lady turtle from a croc. Kinda awful news for their long term survival, I would think. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:55 PM (4ItEf) 148
My iPad has an ad blocker. I never see these ads.
Posted by: Cow Demon He doesn't want a solution. He wants to yell at the manager. Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2026 10:55 PM (VHUov) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:55 PM (2GVsD) 150
140 Let's just say you can always tell, in a Lower 48 airport, which flights are headed to AK.
Likewise in Denver/Boulder you can always tell the folks in town from the Mountain. Posted by: YellowBird at September 12, 2026 10:56 PM (MEbkQ) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:56 PM (2GVsD) 152
But no, it’s just because think bright white shoes aren’t very pretty. I am sure an exception exists somewhere, I just have yet to find it.
Posted by: Piper I like my white sneakers. Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:56 PM (0Htd1) 153
So there’s bipartisan American support for Thaci…and against Jack Smith.
It’s now up to The Hague September 16. Stay tuned Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:54 PM (gpvQO) Haven't we hung that little shit yet? Seems like we should have by now. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:56 PM (4ItEf) 154
Let's just say you can always tell, in a Lower 48 airport, which flights are headed to AK.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:52 PM (4ItEf) Truth. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 12, 2026 10:57 PM (wtpml) 155
I like my white sneakers.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:56 PM (0Htd1) White Chuckie's are very fashionable. And luckily, washable. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:57 PM (4ItEf) 156
133 To lesbian academics read pron in their freedom or just fantasize in their handmaid costumes?
Posted by: 18-1 --- Her costumes have to be hand made, no retail that huge. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 10:58 PM (gpvQO) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:59 PM (2GVsD) 158
Her other reliable indicator was BLACK. The departure gates filled with people all wearing black were heading to Chicago. Still some truth to that.
Posted by: YellowBird at September This is a study worthy of undertaking! Outfits and destination predictions! 😂 Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:59 PM (ZdaMQ) 159
Haven't we hung that little shit yet? Seems like we should have by now.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:56 PM (4ItEf) Sounds like a guy with terminal intracranial lead deficiency. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:59 PM (1z8ji) 160
147 I gotta say, I didn't expect to see turtles humping shoes on the ONT this fine evening. Seems like those boys are horny enough to not know a lady turtle from a croc. Kinda awful news for their long term survival, I would think.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:55 PM (4ItEf) You have to admit, they do look Happy Together. Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 11:00 PM (PMi3m) 161
Neither Texas or Ohio is impressive. Week 1 but both teams have a lot of work to do.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:00 PM (viF8m) 162
White shoes on men always put me in mind of Herb Tarlek.
Posted by: tcn in AK Edie McClurg played Lucille, Herb Tarlek’s wife. She also played Grace, the school secretary in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off. The school secretary at my kids' grade school was a dead ringer for Ms. McClurg. Posted by: Tonypete at September 12, 2026 11:00 PM (m4Pfq) 163
154 Let's just say you can always tell, in a Lower 48 airport, which flights are headed to AK.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:52 PM (4ItEf) Truth. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 12, 2026 10:57 PM (wtpml) When we moved back to AK, DH packed eight three-piece suits, white shirts with French cuffs, lots of ties, and polished shoes. He has yet to wear any of those, after 11 years. I told him, but until he lived here, he didn't understand. A male professional outfit up here consists of nice jeans, a polo shirt with or without a pocket, Red Wing work boots, and occasionally a hard hat, depending upon your work environment for that day. I will admit, when younger than 29, I used to wear a miniskirt with my steel toe boots to jobsites. But the hard hat is non-negotiable, of course. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:01 PM (gZZXF) 164
155 I like my white sneakers.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 12, 2026 10:56 PM (0Htd1) White Chuckie's are very fashionable. And luckily, washable. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 Tennis / court / athletic shoes are an entirely different category. I am talking dress shoes and white patent / bright white sandals / etc. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:01 PM (ZdaMQ) 165
Copied this but I had to tap on the photo for the entire wording... You'll probably guess who and who else are in these two pics captioned " They did not die on this beach/ for these losers"
https://tinyurl.com/3py32bmz Posted by: Rex B at September 12, 2026 11:01 PM (R0XxO) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 11:02 PM (2GVsD) 167
I gotta say, I didn't expect to see turtles humping shoes on the ONT this fine evening. Seems like those boys are horny enough to not know a lady turtle from a croc. Kinda awful news for their long term survival, I would think.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 10:55 PM (4ItEf) I am looking at how to make the joke "pantuflas-sexual" without having to explain that "pantuflas" are Spanish for "slippers" So far I have failed at this task. Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 11:02 PM (rbvCR) 168
Tennis / court / athletic shoes are an entirely different category. I am talking dress shoes and white patent / bright white sandals / etc.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:01 PM (ZdaMQ) Tan shoes and pink shoe laces FTW. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:02 PM (1z8ji) Posted by: Rex B at September 12, 2026 11:03 PM (R0XxO) 170
Let's just say you can always tell, in a Lower 48 airport, which flights are headed to AK. Posted by: tcn in AK By the heavy outerware carried? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 11:04 PM (NnhvP) 171
>>Tennis / court / athletic shoes are an entirely different category. I am talking dress shoes and white patent / bright white sandals / etc.
What about white bucks at the yacht club? Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:07 PM (viF8m) 172
The thing I hate about my tighty whities is when they get to crawling up my butt in the middle of the night...jeez...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 11:09 PM (hJKeX) 173
What about white bucks at the yacht club?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:07 PM (viF8m) Swim fins. The mark of a survivor. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:09 PM (1z8ji) 174
Looks like THE ohio state may be going down.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:09 PM (yEz+x) 175
170
Let's just say you can always tell, in a Lower 48 airport, which flights are headed to AK. Posted by: tcn in AK By the heavy outerware carried? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 11:04 PM (NnhvP) Not in the summer. Jeans, plaid shirts, t-shirts with inappropriate text, hoodies with various odd communities printed on them that you can't get to by driving, bizarre facial hair (on the men, mostly), leggings with long t-shirts (mostly on the women), and of course coolers or boxes taped up with duct tape to either carry on or check. The occasional mullet and/or male ponytail, but absolutely NO twat knots, no suits, very few skirts except bun covers, and no heels of any kind, although cowboy boots are allowed. Alaskans just wear what they like, and don't really give one fat rat's ass who doesn't like it. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:10 PM (Sw64s) 176
The thing I hate about my tighty whities is when they get to crawling up my butt in the middle of the night...jeez...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 11:09 PM (hJKeX) You don't have to wear them at night. I'll never tell. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:10 PM (1z8ji) Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:11 PM (viF8m) 178
What about white bucks at the yacht club?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:07 PM (viF8m) You'd have to ask Judge Smails. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:11 PM (Sw64s) 179
Sigh. Such is football.
Posted by: Tuna at September 12, 2026 11:11 PM (lJ0H4) 180
Looks like THE ohio state may be going down.
Posted by: nurse ratched What a crazy comeback for Texas. Posted by: She Hobbit at September 12, 2026 11:11 PM (ftFVW) 181
Let's just say you can always tell, in a Lower 48 airport, which flights are headed to AK.
Posted by: tcn in AK Xtra Tuffs. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 11:12 PM (dK+Kv) 182
Alaskans just wear what they like, and don't really give one fat rat's ass who doesn't like it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:10 PM (Sw64s) Sounds like Alberta. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:12 PM (1z8ji) 183
Which anime?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:55 PM (2GVsD) ----- Overtly religious pop song??? https://youtu.be/cwtXLVKjnOQ Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 10:26 PM (2GVsD) Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:12 PM (RIvkX) 184
I admit to preferring skirts and dresses because they are comfy (I don't wear anything fussy or waist-banded), and nobody gives me crap about that. I sometimes get mistaken for a hippie. But skirts are a great way to concealed carry, folks.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:13 PM (Sw64s) 185
171 >>Tennis / court / athletic shoes are an entirely different category. I am talking dress shoes and white patent / bright white sandals / etc.
What about white bucks at the yacht club? Posted by: JackStraw at S Couldn’t you do a light cream? Or a saddle? For me? lol. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:13 PM (ZdaMQ) 186
Xtra Tuffs.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 11:12 PM (dK+Kv) Particularly the Salmon Sisters kind, which are all the rage. I can't find any size 15 or 16's for DH. Still working on that. I wear mine to the beach for dipnetting, certainly, and in the garden in the spring. They are awfully handy. And oh so stylish, up here. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:14 PM (Sw64s) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 11:14 PM (eRlcH) 188
Are you Nostradamus's sock puppet?
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 10:42 PM (PMi3m) I did have foresight, yes. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 11:15 PM (1Ff7Z) 189
By the way, I was very specific about never wearing white shoes. Ever.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 10:14 PM (ZdaMQ) We had them for our marching band uniform until my junior year. They are a pain to keep white while marching around on a football field every week. Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2026 11:15 PM (kU0PQ) 190
Alaskans just wear what they like, and don't really give one fat rat's ass who doesn't like it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:10 PM (Sw64s) Sounds like Alberta. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:12 PM (1z8ji) ===== No spats or braces? No collar pins? Are you not Gentlemen? Oh my. Posted by: Maryann Cuthbertson-Klein from Groton at September 12, 2026 11:15 PM (RIvkX) 191
Sounds like Alberta.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:12 PM (1z8ji) I noticed that driving through, the few times I did so. Yep, we think alike. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:15 PM (Sw64s) Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 12, 2026 11:15 PM (wVcYX) 193
>>You'd have to ask Judge Smails.
Pfft. I've been infiltrating them forever. Yacht racing. And that scarf doesn't go with that dress. As if. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:16 PM (viF8m) 194
White shooz are a non-starter for me. Because to keep them white, you have to be thinking about them all the time. What a waste of mental resources.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:16 PM (1z8ji) 195
Inside thigh holster, cross-draw?
Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2026 11:16 PM (kU0PQ) 196
186 Xtra Tuffs.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 11:12 PM (dK+Kv) Particularly the Salmon Sisters kind, which are all the rage. I can't find any size 15 or 16's for DH. Still working on that. I wear mine to the beach for dipnetting, certainly, and in the garden in the spring. They are awfully handy. And oh so stylish, up here. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:14 PM Honeywell used to own them. I still have a pair of Salmon Sisters boots. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:17 PM (ZdaMQ) 197
Let's try that again...
But skirts are a great way to concealed carry, folks. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:13 PM (Sw64s) Inside thigh, cross-draw? Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2026 11:17 PM (kU0PQ) 198
No spats or braces? No collar pins? Are you not Gentlemen?
Oh my. Posted by: Maryann Cuthbertson-Klein from Groton at September 12, 2026 11:15 PM (RIvkX) I haz suspenderz. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:18 PM (1z8ji) 199
Who names their kid Hollywood?
Posted by: I gotta ask at September 12, 2026 11:18 PM (2Ez/1) 200
A couple of my box turtles were obsessed with shoes and shoelaces. If I stamped my foot from 20 feet away, Tommy would run up to me and stand on my shoe. He was the size of a quarter when I found him and I had him for 15 years until I released him to a nice wild place with a lake. He also chased my cats and would bite their feet, tail.
Posted by: Reptile Dysfunction at September 12, 2026 11:18 PM (Fn+3X) 201
"Unbunch your panties" is one of my leadership mantras when the staff are losing their minds in a crisis.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:19 PM (RIvkX) 202
I may be the anomaly. I have exactly five pairs of shoes, and that seems like too many. I also have two pairs of boots, but they are not fashion boots, they are xtra tuffs and winter boots. DH often jokes that I spend our future inheritance on clothes and boots, while I buy half my clothes from Costco and other half from Freddie's. Plus I cut my own hair, mostly, although I do like a good day at the spa. And yet, I am a girly girl. This is AK. We do that our own way I guess.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:19 PM (Sw64s) 203
I'm probably getting all stupid now, and it's not even too late here.
But... Good night! My brain has officially signed out without permission... Posted by: COMountainMarie at September 12, 2026 11:19 PM (hJKeX) 204
Honeywell used to own them. I still have a pair of Salmon Sisters boots.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:17 PM (ZdaMQ) Fish or octopus? Mine are octopus. Very cute. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:21 PM (Sw64s) 205
Mmm. Octopus.
Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at September 12, 2026 11:21 PM (88C+u) Posted by: r hennigantx at September 12, 2026 11:21 PM (/+uur) 207
A couple of my box turtles were obsessed with shoes and shoelaces. If I stamped my foot from 20 feet away, Tommy would run up to me and stand on my shoe. He was the size of a quarter when I found him and I had him for 15 years until I released him to a nice wild place with a lake. He also chased my cats and would bite their feet, tail.
Posted by: Reptile Dysfunction at September 12, 2026 11:18 PM (Fn+3X) And this is why turtles never dominated the planet. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:21 PM (1z8ji) 208
A song by It's A Beautiful Day might have fit the musical theme. They were a big part of the San Francisco music scene late 60s, early 70s.
Posted by: Rockin' Mel Slirrup at September 12, 2026 11:22 PM (Fn+3X) 209
And this is why turtles never dominated the planet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:21 PM (1z8ji) Wait, I thought it was turtles, all the way down? Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:23 PM (Sw64s) 210
Taking the exit here. Was going to make the drink up top, but turns out there's Campari, but no rum. Saved!
https://youtu.be/kBYHwH1Vb-c G'nite, y'all.💤 Posted by: mindful webworker - so much for Saturday at September 12, 2026 11:23 PM (k0Y0k) 211
202 I may be the anomaly. I have exactly five pairs of shoes, and that seems like too many. I also have two pairs of boots, but they are not fashion boots, they are xtra tuffs and winter boots. DH often jokes that I spend our future inheritance on clothes and boots, while I buy half my clothes from Costco and other half from Freddie's. Plus I cut my own hair, mostly, although I do like a good day at the spa. And yet, I am a girly girl. This is AK. We do that our own way I guess. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11 I think people should be themselves, I don’t know if that is regional. I mean, yes, I agree with you, there are definitely regional styles, but shoe counts, etc, there is no magic number. It’s what works for you. And I have seen some adorable things at Target. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:23 PM (ZdaMQ) 212
DH is grilling dinner tonight. Sometimes that man makes feel just like a queen.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:24 PM (Sw64s) 213
The exceptionally odd thing about their loss was it came at the hands of OKLAHOMA STATE, who lost to Tulsa last week. Even the Sooners are happy the Cowboys won!!
Posted by: LRob ------ Maybe this will act as a psychological blow, come the Civil War. Bad juju having to play another OSU team in Black and Orange. The engineering dept where I worked had a couple of Ducks (software weenies) and a couple of Beavs.(EEs). The end of football season got them agitated. Posted by: buddhaha at September 12, 2026 11:24 PM (2VjEW) 214
Honeywell used to own them. I still have a pair of Salmon Sisters boots.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:17 PM (ZdaMQ) Fish or octopus? Mine are octopus. Very cute. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:21 PM (Sw64s) Music for the occasion, by Salmon Dave: https://youtu.be/S_OX2HwWy-o Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:24 PM (1z8ji) 215
204 Honeywell used to own them. I still have a pair of Salmon Sisters boots.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:17 PM (ZdaMQ) Fish or octopus? Mine are octopus. Very cute. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 Octopus. How funny. The brown outsides have never faded. Of course they haven’t done much work, either. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:25 PM (ZdaMQ) 216
And I have seen some adorable things at Target.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:23 PM (ZdaMQ) Precisely. Fashion is how you wear it, and more about attitude than price. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:25 PM (Sw64s) 217
Octopus skin boots?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:26 PM (Y/06r) 218
Looks like we are officially out of the "fake policy discussion" phase of socialism, and into the "murder everyone who isn't socialist enough" phase. Prepare accordingly.
Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:26 PM (vE0+H) 219
>>Couldn’t you do a light cream? Or a saddle? For me? lol.
I had a lovely pair of light cream bucks. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:27 PM (viF8m) 220
217 Octopus skin boots?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 No, octopus printed fabric on the inside of the boot, but you can fold them down and it shows. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:27 PM (ZdaMQ) 221
Octopus. How funny. The brown outsides have never faded. Of course they haven’t done much work, either.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:25 PM (ZdaMQ) Mine work pretty hard, but only for a couple of weeks a year. They still look great. I love 'em. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:27 PM (Sw64s) 222
Octopus skin boots?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:26 PM (Y/06r) Marketed to suckers. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:27 PM (1z8ji) 223
218 Looks like we are officially out of the "fake policy discussion" phase of socialism, and into the "murder everyone who isn't socialist enough" phase. Prepare accordingly.
Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:26 PM (vE0+H) They got to a critical mass point like the 70s where a subset does not want to wait any more. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:27 PM (Y/06r) 224
Brit Lass would get the cheapest raggedy falls apart in six washes shit from Kohl's and still get the dirtiest looks from other women
Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:28 PM (vE0+H) 225
No, octopus printed fabric on the inside of the boot, but you can fold them down and it shows.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:27 PM (ZdaMQ) So they're just regular cow leather? Tanned grey maybe? I am not getting the octopus connection. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:28 PM (Y/06r) 226
Kitty is lapping up the leftover spaghetti sauce,
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:29 PM (1z8ji) 227
I notice it too on flights to Portland (plaid, flannel, brown) and to SF (black, sparkles, fluorescent pink.)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:29 PM (RIvkX) 228
They got to a critical mass point like the 70s where a subset does not want to wait any more.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:27 PM (Y/06r) It's no longer a subset. And the media, Democrats and Republicans aren't stopping them. In fact they're about to encourage a whole lot more. Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:29 PM (vE0+H) Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:29 PM (viF8m) 230
I had a lovely pair of light cream bucks.
Posted by: JackStraw I just got here. Holy shit is that gay. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 11:30 PM (jJdaW) 231
218 Looks like we are officially out of the "fake policy discussion" phase of socialism, and into the "murder everyone who isn't socialist enough" phase. Prepare accordingly.
Posted by: ... --- AOC or one of that crew suggessted killing Schumer was a necessity. They're eating their own. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 11:30 PM (gpvQO) 232
It's no longer a subset. And the media, Democrats and Republicans aren't stopping them. In fact they're about to encourage a whole lot more.
Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:29 PM (vE0+H) I saw a ewetub thumbnail where they are planning to reveal the holdout's identity on the 18th. It is like publicly planning a crime. But he is icky, so whatever. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:30 PM (Y/06r) 233
I am looking at how to make the joke "pantuflas-sexual" without having to explain that "pantuflas" are Spanish for "slippers"
So far I have failed at this task. Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 11:02 PM (rbvCR) I'd have gone with ciabatta Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:31 PM (vE0+H) 234
Way ahead of you.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:29 PM (viF8m) Sincerely doubt that Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:32 PM (vE0+H) 235
This is really tasty tunafish.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:32 PM (Y/06r) Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:32 PM (vE0+H) 237
You can't really take a group picture of a group of Alaskans, they won't sit for it. Most are in Witness Protection or on the lam from the Lower 48.
Posted by: Gypsies, Tramps, Thieves, Etc. at September 12, 2026 11:32 PM (Fn+3X) 238
One of my kindergarten buddies is in the Amex lounge at Seatac and just texted me his google review. It is a riot
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:33 PM (RIvkX) Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:33 PM (viF8m) 240
If you own blue ring octopus boots, that diver is a bad ass.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 11:33 PM (jJdaW) 241
It is like publicly planning a crime. But he is icky, so whatever.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:30 PM (Y/06r) Hell's Angels should adopt him as a "protected person". "Mess with him, and you mess with us." Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:33 PM (1z8ji) 242
So they're just regular cow leather? Tanned grey maybe?
I am not getting the octopus connection. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:28 PM (Y/06r) https://tinyurl.com/p6kmenup Xtra Tuffs, Salmon Sisters, Octopus. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:33 PM (Sw64s) 243
Hook'em Horns!!! Wow, what an incredible game. Texas came back at the end with 21 unanswered points to win!!! Sadly, the Ohio State Daisies wilted at the end. Anyway, great game. This should be a fun year watching Texas. Posted by: naturalfake at September 12, 2026 11:34 PM (iJfKG) 244
This is really tasty tunafish.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Use the whole tunafish. Make boots out of the skin. Posted by: mikeski may have misread the thread at September 12, 2026 11:35 PM (VHUov) 245
We had them for our marching band uniform until my junior year. They are a pain to keep white while marching around on a football field every week.
Posted by: GWB ------ Because I never wore them for anything else, it was simple. Saturday morning, get out the white shoe polish. Unlike every other shoe polish, it isn't a wax that needs buffed; it's a white liquid, akin to.whitewash, which is painted on with a fuzzy round applicator. Covered the grass stains nicely. Back under the bed until next Friday. Posted by: buddhaha at September 12, 2026 11:35 PM (2VjEW) 246
https://tinyurl.com/p6kmenup
Xtra Tuffs, Salmon Sisters, Octopus. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:33 PM (Sw64s) Ok. Rain boots. This is one of those things I do not get, isn't it ladies? Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:35 PM (Y/06r) 247
Unlike every other shoe polish, it isn't a wax that needs buffed; it's a white liquid, akin to.whitewash, which is painted on with a fuzzy round applicator. Covered the grass stains nicely. Back under the bed until next Friday.
Posted by: buddhaha at September 12, 2026 11:35 PM (2VjEW) Until you get about 40 layers on, and it cracks, and falls off in slabs. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:37 PM (1z8ji) 248
Ok. Rain boots. This is one of those things I do not get, isn't it ladies?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:35 PM (Y/06r) Not rain boots, so much as working boots for crappy weather or beach wear. I wear them on the beach for salmon dipnetting, also for early garden work when the snow is just melted, and they aren't bad for short hikes in the spring when everything is muddy. Also good on boats, if need be. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:38 PM (Sw64s) 249
Hi Scampy, where ever you are...
Posted by: COMountainMarie --------- Always nice to see you in the comments, COMM. I am around but not regularly - life calls. Thanks for the ONT, D's. Posted by: scampydog at September 12, 2026 11:39 PM (41CYW) 250
Always nice to see you in the comments, COMM. I am around but not regularly - life calls.
Thanks for the ONT, D's. Posted by: scampydog at September 12, 2026 11:39 PM (41CYW) Nice to hear from you. Don't be a stranger. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:39 PM (Sw64s) 251
Did you guys see the latest democrat scandal? A woman running for State House in NC (Shelly Headen) put up a picture on X of her standing in front of the ovens at Dachau smiling, and then typed, “Visiting Dauchau [sic] Concentration Camp in Germany… This is where Trump supporters belong.”
The irony of that statement was lost on her (if you're familiar with the original inhabitants of Dachau). Anyone who smiles in Dachau is disturbing enough. Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 12, 2026 11:40 PM (dIske) 252
Nurses were forever polishing their white shoes before they were allowed to wear other shoes, Crocs. My wife became a Registered Dietitian in 1977. She also wore a white uniform, white shoes.
Posted by: Them Changes at September 12, 2026 11:40 PM (Fn+3X) 253
>>Unlike every other shoe polish, it isn't a wax that needs buffed; it's a white liquid, akin to.whitewash, which is painted on with a fuzzy round applicator. Covered the grass stains nicely. Back under the bed until next Friday.
Oh yea, and my cream bucks are gay. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:40 PM (viF8m) 254
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (mmrXZ) --------- D-O-N-T-F-O-R-G-E-T-T-O Don't forget to WHAT??? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 12, 2026 11:41 PM (wpRMV) 255
251 Did you guys see the latest democrat scandal? A woman running for State House in NC (Shelly Headen) put up a picture on X of her standing in front of the ovens at Dachau smiling, and then typed, “Visiting Dauchau [sic] Concentration Camp in Germany… This is where Trump supporters belong.”
The irony of that statement was lost on her (if you're familiar with the original inhabitants of Dachau). Anyone who smiles in Dachau is disturbing enough. Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 12, 2026 11:40 PM (dIske) Fucking hell. How can anyone be so painfully stupid? And completely divorced from history or even empathy? What a twat. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:41 PM (Sw64s) Posted by: Underpants Gnome at September 12, 2026 11:41 PM (mP0Kj) 257
254 3 356hybv356buh 356b6
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (mmrXZ) --------- D-O-N-T-F-O-R-G-E-T-T-O Don't forget to WHAT??? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 12, 2026 11:41 PM (wpRMV) Mr Roboto? Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2026 11:42 PM (mP0Kj) 258
Bedtime! Church plus I have to teach tomorrow. I have a suicide awareness donation class for the Fitness for Hope campaign.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 11:43 PM (ZdaMQ) 259
Nurses were forever polishing their white shoes before they were allowed to wear other shoes, Crocs. My wife became a Registered Dietitian in 1977. She also wore a white uniform, white shoes.
Posted by: Them Changes at September 12, 2026 11:40 PM (Fn+3X) Good thing she was registered. Possession of an unregistered Dietician could get you 5 to 10. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:43 PM (1z8ji) 260
What a twat.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:41 PM (Sw64s) _____________________ That about sums it up...along with "psychopath." That was just one of her gems. She was picking out southern states and explaining they were inhabited by "stupid people." She saw nothing wrong with any of it. Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 11:43 PM (dIske) 261
Cream Bucks rub me the wrong way. I had a high opinion of Jack Straw and his musical taste, but now I'm not so sure.
Posted by: Feet of Clay! at September 12, 2026 11:43 PM (Fn+3X) 262
This charade with Mitch McConnell is breathtakingly late-stage Soviet.
I have not seen him alive myself in recent memory. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:44 PM (RIvkX) 263
Fucking hell.
How can anyone be so painfully stupid? And completely divorced from history or even empathy? What a twat. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:41 PM (Sw64s) I settled on she is a TikTok devotee. That medium more than any other social media seems to encourage people to say horrifying and stupid things. Be glad you do not have my ewetub feed. It is nothing but stories of women saying horrifying things about their husbands, cheating on them, etc etc. That and busty women. Busty women and warhammer. Busty women, warhammer, guns and science videos. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:45 PM (Y/06r) 264
Since Labor Day I have throttled down my wardrobe choices from Swiss Coffee to Ecru.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 12, 2026 11:45 PM (wpRMV) 265
This charade with Mitch McConnell is breathtakingly late-stage Soviet.
I have not seen him alive myself in recent memory. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:44 PM (RIvkX) Somebody needs to do a Futurama parody, with McConnell's head in a bell jar, instead of Nixon's. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (1z8ji) 266
I saw a ewetub thumbnail where they are planning to reveal the holdout's identity on the 18th.
It is like publicly planning a crime. But he is icky, so whatever. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:30 PM (Y/06r) 18 USC 119 makes it ILLEGAL to Dox a Jury member. Yeah... FED Law, not State. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (mP0Kj) 267
264 Since Labor Day I have throttled down my wardrobe choices from Swiss Coffee to Ecru.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 12, 2026 11:45 PM (wpRMV) I still have the same rotation of shirts and shorts. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (Y/06r) 268
Good thing she was registered. Possession of an unregistered Dietician could get you 5 to 10.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Watch out for the RDs. They are militant about the Dietitian spelling. Posted by: The American Dietetic Association at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (Fn+3X) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (CbDvl) 270
This charade with Mitch McConnell is breathtakingly late-stage Soviet.
I have not seen him alive myself in recent memory. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:44 PM (RIvkX) I don't care about MM. Let him stay, alive or dead. The Ds never get rid of anyone, why should we? Same with the D from NC. It'd be nice if someone smacked people like her in the mouth when they say stuff like that. Preferably with a baseball bat. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (1Ff7Z) 271
That about sums it up...along with "psychopath." That was just one of her gems. She was picking out southern states and explaining they were inhabited by "stupid people." She saw nothing wrong with any of it.
Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 11:43 PM (dIske) Y'know, the whole notion that everyone in the south is an idiot is so.... Civil War Era. It wasn't true then, but... It's one thing to think your enemies are fools, and another one to maintain that thought process without any critical analysis. That leads to serious stupidity. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:47 PM (Sw64s) 272
18 USC 119 makes it ILLEGAL to Dox a Jury member.
Yeah... FED Law, not State. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (mP0Kj) Yeah, I do not quite get it. Is it a threat to get him to publicly recant? Drag out the process? Just exercise power and have it looming over the guy? These people are fucking horrible. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:47 PM (Y/06r) 273
>>Cream Bucks rub me the wrong way. I had a high opinion of Jack Straw and his musical taste, but now I'm not so sure.
When you go fishing, the most important tool you have is the right bait. Know your waters and your prey. Dress for success. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:47 PM (viF8m) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:48 PM (CbDvl) 275
That and busty women. Busty women and warhammer. Busty women, warhammer, guns and science videos.
Posted by: Aetius451AD You should log in again. Posted by: mikeski python at September 12, 2026 11:48 PM (VHUov) 276
273 >>Cream Bucks rub me the wrong way. I had a high opinion of Jack Straw and his musical taste, but now I'm not so sure.
When you go fishing, the most important tool you have is the right bait. Know your waters and your prey. Dress for success. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:47 PM (viF8m) Are... are you fishing for gay dudes, Jack? NTTAWWT. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:49 PM (Y/06r) 277
272 18 USC 119 makes it ILLEGAL to Dox a Jury member.
Yeah... FED Law, not State. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (mP0Kj) Yeah, I do not quite get it. Is it a threat to get him to publicly recant? Drag out the process? Just exercise power and have it looming over the guy? These people are fucking horrible. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:47 PM (Y/06r) Maybe they think they can plead insanity for Doxing him??? Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2026 11:49 PM (mP0Kj) 278
269 I have sailing boots that I wear down to the beach paired with a sundress.
And a straw sun hat. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (CbDvl) And you are cuter than a bug's ear, too! Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:49 PM (Sw64s) 279
Yeah, I do not quite get it. Is it a threat to get him to publicly recant? Drag out the process? Just exercise power and have it looming over the guy?
These people are fucking horrible. Posted by: Aetius451AD It's not about him. It's about intimidating the next jury. He's just a sacrifice they're willing to make. Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2026 11:50 PM (VHUov) 280
Registered Dietitian is kind of a Master's degree. They give internships only to the best Bachelors of Nutrition grads. Basically, you need straight College A's in all your science courses. Many who can't get an internship go into Sports Nutrition or Nutrition counselling. The RD is kind of a big deal.
Posted by: American Dietetic Association at September 12, 2026 11:50 PM (Fn+3X) 281
274 And I thought everyone wore Ray Troll sweatshirts in AK.
I have a few. They are awesome. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:48 PM (CbDvl) Spawn till you die, honey. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:50 PM (Sw64s) 282
You should log in again.
Posted by: mikeski python at September 12, 2026 11:48 PM (VHUov) Eh, that's my phone feed. Here at home... Asmongold videos. A guy building a log cabin house. A busty woman at a Ren Faire. A guy carving a gladiator helmet out of wood (there you go, Jack) Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:51 PM (Y/06r) 283
266 I saw a ewetub thumbnail where they are planning to reveal the holdout's identity on the 18th.
It is like publicly planning a crime. But he is icky, so whatever. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:30 PM (Y/06r) 18 USC 119 makes it ILLEGAL to Dox a Jury member. Yeah... FED Law, not State. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (mP0Kj) Would that apply to a state jury, or only to Federal jurors? Posted by: a.moron at September 12, 2026 11:51 PM (X5Jzz) 284
D-O-N-T-F-O-R-G-E-T-T-O Don't forget to WHAT??? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) ================ 34fguj9oktj Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 11:51 PM (mmrXZ) 285
255 251 Did you guys see the latest democrat scandal? A woman running for State House in NC (Shelly Headen) put up a picture on X of her standing in front of the ovens at Dachau smiling, and then typed, “Visiting Dauchau [sic] Concentration Camp in Germany… This is where Trump supporters belong.”
The irony of that statement was lost on her (if you're familiar with the original inhabitants of Dachau). Anyone who smiles in Dachau is disturbing enough. Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 12, 2026 11:40 PM (dIske) Fucking hell. How can anyone be so painfully stupid? And completely divorced from history or even empathy? What a twat. Posted by: tcn in AK Yea. Either it's AI slop or this broad has advisors who despise her. She appears too dumb to come up with this on her own. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 11:52 PM (wBh67) 286
It's not about him.
It's about intimidating the next jury. He's just a sacrifice they're willing to make. Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2026 11:50 PM (VHUov) Probable. 'Youse other guys watch what happens.' *types* *deletes* I did see where someone had started a gofundme for the guy. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 12, 2026 11:52 PM (Y/06r) 287
>>Are... are you fishing for gay dudes, Jack? NTTAWWT.
I believe it was Piper who suggested cream bucks. I don't think she's a gay dude but I might be wrong. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 11:53 PM (viF8m) 288
Too bad the beavers couldnt pull it out over Texas tech. That was a great game. Until the last four minutes.
Oh well. Oregon and ohio state lost. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:53 PM (CbDvl) 289
Until you get about 40 layers on, and it cracks, and falls off in slabs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ---- Never had a pair that long. Over 6 years marching (started in 7th grade) my feet went from size 6 to 12.:The longest pair were only worn maybe 14 times. Thinking about it now, I'm amazed that my mother not only bought them for me (we were downright poor) but didn't insist that I wear them out. I had a female cousin a couple of years older than me, and I believe she inherited them, at least until about size 9. Although a couple of times a year, I'd take a floor scrub brush to them before slapping on a new coat. Posted by: buddhaha at September 12, 2026 11:54 PM (2VjEW) 290
265 This charade with Mitch McConnell is breathtakingly late-stage Soviet.
I have not seen him alive myself in recent memory. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 11:44 PM (RIvkX) Somebody needs to do a Futurama parody, with McConnell's head in a bell jar, instead of Nixon's. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Captain Pike's wheel chair. (beep) Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 11:54 PM (wBh67) 291
And the Mariners are up 15-1 over the As. Top of the 8th.
We can still lose though. Trust me on this. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:55 PM (CbDvl) 292
Confession. I have a pair of light colored shoes in the cream bucks vein, but a little darker. Had them for 40 years, maybe worn them twice. Decided that size 13 feet should not draw attention by wearing gaudy, light, shoes.
Posted by: Paint It Black at September 12, 2026 11:55 PM (Fn+3X) 293
Yeah... FED Law, not State.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2026 11:46 PM (mP0Kj) Would that apply to a state jury, or only to Federal jurors? Posted by: a.moron Federal Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at September 12, 2026 11:56 PM (Fv808) 294
Fucking hell.
How can anyone be so painfully stupid? And completely divorced from history or even empathy? What a twat. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:41 PM (Sw64s) The reveal that they've been the Nazi slave holding KKK khmer rouge stasi all along isn't exactly gonna be an M. Night Shyamalan level twist. Posted by: ... at September 12, 2026 11:56 PM (vE0+H) 295
>>>It's not about him.
It's about intimidating the next jury. He's just a sacrifice they're willing to make. Posted by: mikeski --- Is DOXing the juror a federal offense? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 11:58 PM (gpvQO) 296
Did you guys see the latest democrat scandal? A woman running for State House in NC (Shelly Headen) put up a picture on X of her standing in front of the ovens at Dachau smiling, and then typed, “Visiting Dauchau [sic] Concentration Camp in Germany… This is where Trump supporters belong.” Posted by: Mitch McConnell ======================= JEEZ. Democrats are denouncing her and pulling funding, but it's too late to get her off the ballot. That district is a "lean Republican." wth was she trying to do? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 11:59 PM (mmrXZ) 297
>>Confession. I have a pair of light colored shoes in the cream bucks vein, but a little darker. Had them for 40 years, maybe worn them twice. Decided that size 13 feet should not draw attention by wearing gaudy, light, shoes.
Good plan. You have giant clown feet and what does that mean? And you want to hide this? I'm surrounded by morons. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 12:00 AM (viF8m) 298
Y'know, the whole notion that everyone in the south is an idiot is so.... Civil War Era. It wasn't true then, but...
It's one thing to think your enemies are fools, and another one to maintain that thought process without any critical analysis. That leads to serious stupidity. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 11:47 PM (Sw64s) When was the Left ever interested in accuracy, truth, etc.....? Posted by: ... at September 13, 2026 12:03 AM (vE0+H) 299
Plant moss on top of your shoes. Because moss only grows in the shade, you know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 12:04 AM (1z8ji) 300
>>>Sydney Sweeny's 15 minutes is nearly up, she's not a good actress unfortunately.
Indie Navrette is the new it girl it seems. She can't act either, but acting isn't really a thing in Hollywood any longer. >Sweeny is making massive bank selling lingerie, swim wear and marketing her brand. Not bad for a crusty 29 year old. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 13, 2026 12:07 AM (5C90x) 301
Made the Top 10ish Comments for the 5th time. I'll be basking in the glory for a good while.
Posted by: Peaceful, Easy Feeling at September 13, 2026 12:08 AM (Fn+3X) 302
wth was she trying to do?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2026 11:59 PM (mmrXZ) Move the Overton Window Posted by: ... at September 13, 2026 12:08 AM (vE0+H) 303
Sweeny is making massive bank selling lingerie, swim wear and marketing her brand. Not bad for a crusty 29 year old.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 13, 2026 12:07 AM (5C90x) I wouldn't kick her out for peddling her lingerie in bed. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 12:09 AM (1z8ji) 304
Franpsycho I was in Brazil for the farcical Soviet end-game. In 1985, after 17 years of military government, Brazil had its first presidential election. The winner suffered heart failure within hours of taking the oath. He was not seen for weeks, being cared for in the Coronary Institute of Sao Paulo.
A military (!) spokesman provided frequent updates for the TV networks. His spiel didn't very. "The state of health of President Tancredo Neves, is good". (O estado de saude do President Tancredo Neves, e bom) I was usually watching the TV news with Brazilian traveling salesmen and workers in the lobby of an inexpensive* hotel. They'd jeer and joke when the spokesman came on with his "bulletins" (planchetes). Brazilians starting calling Neves "Chernenko brasileiro", which was perfect. The russkis actually succeeded in creating a "brand" of ridiculous non-credibility that was readily adopted by cultures elsewhere (in derision). * $7/night for a decent room, breakfast (fresh baguette, fresh mango/honeydew/Amazon fruit, Brazilian coffee with hot milk) .... 2 blocks from a quiet beach with turqoise water - one reason a 6 week trip morphed into a 6 month trip Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2026 12:11 AM (U/Byj) 305
>>>Sydney Sweeny's 15 minutes is nearly up, she's not a good actress unfortunately.
You guys crack me up. She has a few decades of milfy goodness ahead of her, and you guys are already burying her. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 13, 2026 12:13 AM (dK+Kv) 306
Be glad you do not have my ewetub feed. It is nothing but stories of women saying horrifying things about their husbands, cheating on them, etc etc.
That and busty women. Busty women and warhammer. Busty women, warhammer, guns and science videos. Posted by: Aetius451AD Y'know... they tend to recommend more of what you already watch, unless you turn your history off... Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 13, 2026 12:13 AM (anFBA) 307
>>I wouldn't kick her out for peddling her lingerie in bed.
She owns a '65 Mustang and works on it herself. I saw her first. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 12:14 AM (viF8m) 308
She owns a '65 Mustang and works on it herself.
I saw her first. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 12:14 AM (viF8m) I could show her an easy way to modify the front end to make it handle way better. Speaking of handling front ends... Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 12:17 AM (1z8ji) 309
If your claim to fame is being sexy, cute in Hollywood, the trouble is that no one gets to do that for very long. In the old Hollywood days the choice was "marrying well" and mostly quitting Hollywood, or seeking the Mom, grandma, sidekick roles. When you're over 30, there's a nubile 22 year old wanting to take your job and will do it for less money.
Posted by: Sand Through Hourglass Figure at September 13, 2026 12:17 AM (Fn+3X) 310
She owns a '65 Mustang and works on it herself.
I saw her first. Posted by: JackStraw -------- I dont follow the famous crowd but she seems to not be publicly histrionic nor insufferable. And the eye catching stuff is pleasant. Posted by: scampydog at September 13, 2026 12:19 AM (41CYW) 311
Hey FeatherBlade, unless I'm wrong (a specialty) you're a distaff cigar person. Burn anything interesting today? After a great swim at the university pool I settled for a favorite, the Undercrown Maduro. A box of these will be at the TXMoMe, FYI.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2026 12:19 AM (U/Byj) 312
288 Too bad the beavers couldnt pull it out over Texas tech. That was a great game. Until the last four minutes.
Oh well. Oregon and ohio state lost. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:53 PM (CbDvl) --- The Red Raiders only needed 4 minutes with the Beavers. The prior 56 were just foreplay. Posted by: techsan at September 13, 2026 12:22 AM (uNveu) 313
Went to a store I've never visited after the pool because I needed sumac, a seasoning I use with kebab. Middle East flavor to the place (lots of halal stuff), but oddly, or maybe not since this is the 2nd store in town with this combo, a significant Russian/Slavic element too.
Great lamb? Fresh pita? This is your place. Russian tea cookies or instant coffee (imported from Russia), incredible kielbasa selection (domestic)? Also your place. WTF? But they don't have a bakery like the other place, and there's no substitute for the fresh Persian flatbreads hot out of the oven (also amazing pomegranates and other produce). So even though it's closer - and half the customers were Russians, it's easy to tell - the other place gets the nod. Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2026 12:23 AM (U/Byj) 314
The Google Pixel 6a phone, loaded with the Graphene OS continues to work well for me. No real complaints. Battery life is impressive.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 12:24 AM (1z8ji) 315
>>If your claim to fame is being sexy, cute in Hollywood, the trouble is that no one gets to do that for very long. In the old Hollywood days the choice was "marrying well" and mostly quitting Hollywood, or seeking the Mom, grandma, sidekick roles. When you're over 30, there's a nubile 22 year old wanting to take your job and will do it for less money.
I just asked Grok how much she's worth. $40 million is the best estimate. She isn't even 30 years old. I think she'll be ok. Good for her. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 12:25 AM (viF8m) 316
Is TRex in Oklahoma? I heard there's a Wendy's that is offering their TRex burger, with 9 patties.
I'm not sure if he'd be there to eat one, or crying at people who order it for eating his relatives. Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 13, 2026 12:26 AM (qx7Zg) 317
I just asked Grok how much she's worth. $40 million is the best estimate. She isn't even 30 years old.
I think she'll be ok. Good for her. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 12:25 AM (viF8m) She could support me in the style to which I'd like to become accustomed. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 12:26 AM (1z8ji) 318
I just asked Grok how much she's worth. $40 million is the best estimate. She isn't even 30 years old.
I think she'll be ok. Good for her. Posted by: JackStraw Wow! $20 Million each! Hope they're insured. Posted by: Betty Grable's Million Dollar Legs at September 13, 2026 12:28 AM (Fn+3X) 319
>>I dont follow the famous crowd but she seems to not be publicly histrionic nor insufferable. And the eye catching stuff is pleasant.
I heard her in some interview a while ago. She seemed like a pretty savvy young woman from a solid family who knew exactly what was going on. I like her. Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2026 12:32 AM (viF8m) 320
The late games are blowouts. The Utes are having a successful pig hunt and crushing Arkansas. The zoomies are losing badly to a herd of Bison.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 13, 2026 12:35 AM (wBh67) 321
I couldn't pick Sweeney out of a line-up, but the so-what of that is that any line-up out of which I couldn't pick her would be one where I could be blindfolded and pick at random and be ..... OK.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2026 12:37 AM (U/Byj) 322
You guys crack me up. She has a few decades of milfy goodness ahead of her, and you guys are already burying her.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 13, 2026 12:13 AM (dK+Kv) "We" are a mercurial bunch. Posted by: ... at September 13, 2026 12:38 AM (vE0+H) 323
Four black bear pics on trail cameras tonight. One is a unit.
Posted by: scampydog at September 13, 2026 12:39 AM (41CYW) 324
Sweeney seems unable to be pushed or molded easily. Most people have a price - even billionaire Swift eventually couldn't resist the siren call of the Demonic Left - but they don't seem to have found SS's.
Posted by: ... at September 13, 2026 12:40 AM (vE0+H) 325
Happy Saturday Horde!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 13, 2026 12:48 AM (ibDUx) Posted by: JQ at September 13, 2026 12:48 AM (rdVOm) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:49 AM (gpvQO) 328
@JackPosobiec
5h Reddington’s wife appears to have deleted her account after she was exposed using it to intimidate jurors after her husband lost a high-profile triple murder case Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:59 AM (gpvQO) 329
I was compelled to drive the car around the block just now. Because it is International Drive Your Studebaker day. So I did. Here it is. With me, cunningly concealed by the windshield pillar:
https://tinyurl.com/3pdzu4dn Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:01 AM (1z8ji) 330
Good actresses work forever pretty faces fade fast.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:49 AM (gpvQO) High-altitude rockets can stay up a long time. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:03 AM (1z8ji) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:09 AM (gpvQO) 332
If you eat Sushi would you eat Salp?
https://tinyurl.com/bdf4mttt Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:09 AM (gpvQO) Nope. It's a bug. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:11 AM (1z8ji) 333
If you eat Sushi would you eat Salp?
https://tinyurl.com/bdf4mttt --------- Not sure. Let someone else go first! Posted by: JQ at September 13, 2026 01:15 AM (rdVOm) 334
Oldie but a goodie:
Elon Musk@elonmusk - 26 Apr 2024 Replying to @wholemars I’d like to apologize to Dustin Moskowitz for calling him a “retard”. That was wrong. What I meant to say is that he is a pompous idiot whose his head is so far up his own ass that he is legally blind. I wish him the best and hope that someday we can be friends. there's not much out there folks Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:18 AM (gpvQO) 335
Salp looks like it would get tossed in the recycling bin on land.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 13, 2026 01:19 AM (ibDUx) 336
Salp looks like it would get tossed in the recycling bin on land.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 13, 2026 01:19 AM (ibDUx) Looks like a condom that got soaked in white gas, and all swole up. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:21 AM (1z8ji) 337
Dario Amodei@DarioAmodei
We Must Pace the Frontier: I’ve written a new essay on why the AI industry should slow down, with a three-part plan for doing so. Anthropic is unilaterally committing to the first of these steps. We’ll provide third-party evaluators with permanent, employee-level access to our systems, so that they can verify adherence to our safety measures, report on incidents, and assess models’ alignment during training. You can read the full post here: darioamodei.com/post/we-must… Elon Musk@elonmusk Dario is right --- Laying odds the Senate is warming up the regulators. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:22 AM (gpvQO) 338
Well, I am starting to power out. Calling it a night. Later, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 13, 2026 01:28 AM (1z8ji) 339
Polymarket@Polymarket
Chinese reconnaissance satellite breaks apart in orbit, creating at least 43 pieces of space debris that could remain around Earth for “hundreds of years. --- @GordonGChang Why would a satellite break apart in frictionless space? --- Science, sort of related to math isn't it? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:31 AM (gpvQO) Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 13, 2026 01:35 AM (ibDUx) 341
What a game! Finally home -- and exhausted-- from drinking and cheering and fretting Its Hard to imagine how the players must feel.
Posted by: LASue at September 13, 2026 01:38 AM (lCppi) Posted by: JQ at September 13, 2026 01:38 AM (rdVOm) 343
Thanks Disco and Dino!
I don't understand cocktails with ingredients like pineapple juice. Who has that? Do you buy a 52 oz bottle (my first Google result) and then make the same cocktail 34 times? My cocktails are all things I can scale based on juice from half a lemon/lime. Am I doing something wrong? Posted by: frammish at September 13, 2026 01:52 AM (rcENI) 344
>> Why would a satellite break apart in frictionless space?
It went splodey. Could've been some of it's maneuvering propulsion or even batteries or something that blowed up good. And it was in a retrograde orbit, and was likely some spy satellite. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 13, 2026 01:55 AM (w6EFb) 345
Watched the third episode (of nine) of the Saint Paisios miniseries. He is still a newborn.
His parents & grandmother remind me of a family I stayed with twenty-some years ago in Cyprus. Far better Christians than me. Prayed all the time with their many kids. Fasted every Wednesday and Friday, and on Saturdays before liturgy dinner was tomatoes, cucumbers, and feta. No "movie night and popcorn." Posted by: frammish at September 13, 2026 01:56 AM (rcENI) 346
lost a high-profile triple murder case
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 12:59 AM (gpvQO) He loves triple murder Posted by: ... at September 13, 2026 01:56 AM (vE0+H) 347
Hi, frammish!
Bars buy the larger containers of pineapple juice and make many foo-foo drinks per night. At home, it's easier to keep the small cans (6 oz?) handy for an occasional tropical drink. Posted by: JQ at September 13, 2026 01:57 AM (rdVOm) 348
The Chicoms do not give a shit about space junk or rocket safety during launches. It wouldn't bother them for instance, if they launched some rocket with a path over a populated area and it blew up and crashed and killed people. They don't give a shit. At least for their own people. They wouldn't give a shit otherwise, save the international fallout. Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at September 13, 2026 02:02 AM (w6EFb) 349
@20kayleighmceny
Trump embarrasses Emmanuel Macron on the world stage: Reporter: "Can you respond to Macron saying he will not join the board of peace?" Trump: "Nobody wants him because he'll be out of office very soon." Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 02:05 AM (gpvQO) 350
When you're over 30, there's a nubile 22 year old wanting to take your job and will do it for less money. Posted by: Sand Through Hourglass Figure ================= And all of this will be moot within a few years. AI Girl will never disappoint you. Will not demand $10 million per picture. Will not need to be shadowed by a minder to make sure she doesn't say something stupid. Will not keep everyone waiting on this set for floor hours while she recovers from a bender. Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at September 13, 2026 02:07 AM (mmrXZ) 351
*four Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at September 13, 2026 02:08 AM (mmrXZ) 352
Okay, I will buy one of the cans. :-) I guess it is good by itself too. That reminds me . . .
A friend I've known since 3rd grade invited me to a birthday party weekend next month. Actually the invitation was a month or two ago, and anyway, uh, it's always the same time every year. He is the only person I've stayed in touch with for all those years. He wants to visit a famous tiki bar one of those nights. I've never really explored tiki drinks. Too complicated to make at home. But I just got a jury summons! I've never believed in dodging jury duty (but I've never been selected either). I would be so sad to cancel on my friend. Maybe I can ask for a delay. Posted by: frammish at September 13, 2026 02:09 AM (rcENI) 353
frammish since you brought up cocktails with lemon juice, I have to recommend the Sidecar to anyone with a lemon tree. Basically a margarita (for which it was probably the inspiration), subbing in lemon for lime, and cognac for tequila. Orange liquer/triple sec, ice, shake, into a chilled glass, voila. Very refreshing and good.
I have a meyer lemon tree, so mine might be a bit sweeter than using a typical Lisbon or Eureka, which are more acidic. Anyway, in hot or warm weather, an easy simple and refreshing cocktail. Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2026 02:09 AM (U/Byj) 354
Q MASTER POOL@QMasterPool1
This gal's got a handle on Trump and what he's doing. Refreshing https://tinyurl.com/76b26z34 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 02:13 AM (gpvQO) Posted by: JQ at September 13, 2026 02:14 AM (rdVOm) 356
354 Q MASTER POOL@QMasterPool1
whelp, scrolling further down she seems vulnerable to quick click rumor. Too bad she makes a good presentation. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 02:28 AM (gpvQO) 357
And it was in a retrograde orbit, and was likely some spy satellite.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley --- Musk's Starlink satellite zapped it. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 02:34 AM (gpvQO) 358
Seems like things are starting to happen inside Iran. A few days ago Tousi said that Pahlavi asked them to block the streets with their cars. All my life I've wondered why the French made barricades. Like what is the point? Here in Oregon, our DOT blocks traffic all the time. Google says it was to stop cavalry charges. I guess cramming a highway with cars also stops tanks and other military transport.
Posted by: frammish at September 13, 2026 02:34 AM (rcENI) 359
My oldest son is about to start a "dual enrollment" program so he can take most of his classes at the community college. His literature class will be homeschool though. It's focused on the 17th/18th centuries. So my wife and I were talking about assigning Les Miserables vs Tale of Two Cities. We're going to go with Dickens, but it was the first time I learned Les Mis isn't about the French Revolution. It's about the "June Rebellion," 43 years later. I've never heard of that. But I believe they are on their Fifth Republic already, so. . . .
Posted by: frammish at September 13, 2026 02:39 AM (rcENI) 360
In 2022 when gas prices went high rethugliKKKans gleefully put stickers on gas pumps burn biden not oil! If democrats like schumer and jefferies could get their heads out of aipacs butt and democrats weren't tofu eating snowflakes they could now put stickers on gas pumps burn trumpsters not oil!
Posted by: raimondo at September 13, 2026 02:41 AM (FPix9) 361
Rummages under kitchen sink.....I know I bought a fresh can of troll-b-gone....now where is it.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at September 13, 2026 02:58 AM (QGaXH) 362
Because Biden enriching himself and his cronies is totally the same thing as resisting apocalyptic fanatics who have sought our death for fifty years.
I remember in the early 2000s I would meet a friend once a week in Harvard Square to read the Iliad together: just a few pages at a time, in ancient Greek. One week he was very concerned that Bush was going to declare war on Iran. I didn't understand what he was worried about. I said I wished he would do it! Posted by: frammish at September 13, 2026 03:05 AM (rcENI) 363
361 Rummages under kitchen sink.....I know I bought a fresh can of troll-b-gone....now where is it.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK's phone) at September 13, 2026 02:58 AM (QGaXH) Probably don't need that for little ol' Rainmandodo. Maybe some Febreeze would do. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 13, 2026 03:05 AM (QSxSN) 364
Sweet dreams Horde, I actually dozed off in the chair for a minute or two.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 13, 2026 03:08 AM (ibDUx) 365
I went & washed dishes and now everyone is gone.
Ah, well... still have half a drink to finish... Posted by: JQ at September 13, 2026 03:24 AM (rdVOm) 366
365 I went & washed dishes and now everyone is gone.
Posted by: JQ at September 13, 2026 03:24 AM (rdVOm) ... or lurking. Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 03:34 AM (odBC9) 367
Pixy's up at ai.mee.nu
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 03:38 AM (odBC9) Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 13, 2026 03:54 AM (wBh67) 369
Hush you, the day walkers are still about.
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at September 13, 2026 04:30 AM (Q/FnY) 370
We see you, Puddleglum!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:30 AM (odBC9) 371
Pixy's up!
Posted by: m at September 13, 2026 04:33 AM (odBC9) 372
Is this where the spot?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 08:45 AM (3oLMy) 373
In that picture of the Jungle Bird drink, I have to say I have never seen a red pineapple before. Is that something new?
Posted by: Ralph at September 13, 2026 12:08 PM (8WZD4) Pre-Club Open ThreadWhelm yourselves in preparation for the Club which opens at 10pm Eastern Time Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 08:39 PM (eRlcH) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 08:40 PM (eRlcH) 3
Nooded, and my day is now 19 hours old. Good night, y'all.
Posted by: Nazdar at September 12, 2026 08:41 PM (NcvvS) 4
Whelmed beyond belief, there Doof.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 08:41 PM (yEz+x) 5
Oh, final note: Whelmed!
Posted by: Nazdar at September 12, 2026 08:42 PM (NcvvS) 6
@sentdefender
1h In a first, Ukraine’s navy has announced and released footage of an engagement between two USVs. Per the release, a Ukrainian Sargan 3000, with a platformed .50 M2 Browning heavy machine gun, engaged and destroyed a Russia USV in the Black Sea. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:42 PM (gpvQO) 7
nurse, how's Lucy's tail?
Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 08:42 PM (Sco7b) 8
Yeeeee Haaaawwwwwwww
Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at September 12, 2026 08:42 PM (Q/FnY) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 08:42 PM (NnhvP) 10
Whelmed here, boss.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 08:44 PM (zZu0s) 11
I could have been first but I was greasing the ol' tractor.
Posted by: Mr Haney at September 12, 2026 08:44 PM (MWfyi) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:44 PM (gpvQO) 13
Amazing content.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 08:44 PM (TlKpx) 14
Ever wonder if a lot of the Ukrainian footage is just advertisements for the oligarchs to sell drones?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 08:45 PM (zZu0s) 15
Amazing content. Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 08:44 PM (TlKpx) __________ Laconically eloquent. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 08:45 PM (eRlcH) 16
Hey statelss,
Thanks for asking. The lump is now quite small and getting smaller. When it exploded it was the size of a ping pong ball, now smaller than a pea. No signs of tenderness or redness or warmth. Hopefully we are good to go! She is such a sweet Fink. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 08:46 PM (yEz+x) 17
Uncanny content.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 08:46 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:46 PM (MWfyi) 19
I could have been first but I was greasing the ol' tractor.
Posted by: Mr Haney I didn't know what the cool kids were calling 'it' now! Thanks. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 08:46 PM (NnhvP) 20
The volcano was unbelievable!
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:46 PM (MWfyi) I thought the Sydney Sweeney halftime show was overdone. -ace Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 08:47 PM (zZu0s) 21
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Iraq is rushing to contain a major regional crisis after confirming that a drone attack shutting down a vital Saudi Arabian oil pipeline originated from Iraqi territory. Baghdad has fired a military commander and shut Iranian border crossings to launch an investigation. With the wider Iran-U.S. war already destabilizing regional trade, Baghdad faces massive pressure to disarm local Iran-backed militias before a Sept 30 deadline - but Iran-backed Shia terror groups are refusing to comply. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:47 PM (gpvQO) 22
'Resident Evil' on in the background as I work. Damn, Milla Jovovich was beautiful. Incredible eyes. She's 50 now.
The movies are free on Tubi. There's a new one coming out that's supposed to be really good. And AI is running stuff in the background.... Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 08:47 PM (Sco7b) 23
Drone show was neat in person, seen bigger ones on YouTube but first seen live
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 08:49 PM (qEb4U) 24
22 'Resident Evil' on in the background as I work. Damn, Milla Jovovich was beautiful. Incredible eyes. She's 50 now.
--- Mind sees her in the Fifth Element. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:50 PM (gpvQO) 25
16 Hey statelss,
Thanks for asking. The lump is now quite small and getting smaller. When it exploded it was the size of a ping pong ball, now smaller than a pea. No signs of tenderness or redness or warmth. Hopefully we are good to go! She is such a sweet Fink. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 08:46 PM (yEz+x) Thanks for the update. Thoughts were occasionally sent towards both of you and I was asking around. AND GREAT NEWS ALL OF YOU!!! TRILLIONS of American dollars are being spent on AI. TRILLIONS. My script is almost done running and I am moving this towards profitability with my total API cost of...... $0.155869 American dollars. The road to profitability is step by step.... Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 08:51 PM (Sco7b) 26
I was so wrong. I thought the armed resistance by the Iranian people would start in Mashhad. It has started in Southern Iran.
Pezeshkian is crying that PDT is attacking civilians by cutting off their food, water , medicine and electricity. All the borders around Iran are closed. Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2026 08:52 PM (E0Et6) Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 08:52 PM (zZu0s) 28
my total API cost of......
$0.155869 American dollars. The road to profitability is step by step.... Posted by: Stateless --- You never know, keep on truckin'. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:52 PM (gpvQO) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:55 PM (gpvQO) 30
And AI is running stuff in the background....
Same here, convert all of the XML serializers from document based to forward cursor streaming only. Should allow me to stream massive SOAP envelopes without the GC overhead. I can't imagine how many days it would take to do this by hand. Posted by: Community Notes at September 12, 2026 08:57 PM (+4Cf6) Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 08:59 PM (kpS4V) 32
It has started in Southern Iran.
--- Think they have farms up north. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:55 PM (gpvQO) Near Macedonia? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 08:59 PM (dK+Kv) 33
@sentdefender
9h More information about the Internationally Recognized Government (IRG)/IRG-aligned force’s offensive against the Houthis to the south, that ultimately, culminated in failure. According to CNN, citing a number of officials and sources with knowledge on the matter, the Saudis failed to embed key enablers, such as JTACs and FSOs (rightly mentioned by @WeaponScientist) with IRG/IRG-aligned forces during their offensive. This enabled the Houthis to make considerable gains, due to the absence of Saudi airstrikes, during counteroffensive operations, that ultimately led to the capture of the key port city of Mocha and islands from which they can exercise control over the Bab al-Mandeb Strait. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:02 PM (gpvQO) 34
If its not serious it won't work, the Mullahs will murder anyone that tries to take them over
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 09:04 PM (qEb4U) Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 12, 2026 09:04 PM (88C+u) Posted by: and i am a living sign at September 12, 2026 09:05 PM (88C+u) 37
Preparing for Club ONT-- I think I need to do some stretches first. Okay, where's thst yoga mat?
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 09:05 PM (PMi3m) 38
I was expecting a movie thread, and I finally have a movie related post. We watched "Train Dreams" on Netflix last night. I enjoyed the story, but what really caught me was the cinematography. Every shot is just perfect in terms of color, lighting, framing, etc. Worth a watch if you're in the mood for something contemplative.
Posted by: Satan, Prince of Darkness, Esq. at September 12, 2026 09:06 PM (LnCz0) 39
Off, Satanic sock.
Posted by: PabloD at September 12, 2026 09:06 PM (LnCz0) 40
Near Macedonia?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon --- Caldonia, what makes your big head so hard? youtu.be/wZ_aCGKP7Gs?t=25 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:06 PM (gpvQO) 41
Wild watching Cornyn let his freak flag fly.
>>@JohnCornyn >>The extremes of both parties—Republicans’ MAGA wing represented by JD Vance and the progressive left represented by Zohran Mamdani—have drawn closer to each other, @greg_ip writes Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 09:07 PM (viF8m) 42
18 The volcano was unbelievable!
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:46 PM (MWfyi) Are you calling it a liar? Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 09:07 PM (PMi3m) 43
Skip, it's deadly serious this time.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2026 09:09 PM (E0Et6) 44
On what rational planet are the Houthis able to "make significant gains"?
These are 3rd century retards with guns. Can't we turn them into pink mist and just move on with our lives? How is this difficult? Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:09 PM (oqH4h) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 09:09 PM (eRlcH) 46
>>>JD Vance and the progressive left represented by Zohran Mamdani—have drawn closer to each other,
--- Cage match? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:09 PM (gpvQO) 47
Republicans’ MAGA wing
That's the "make America great again" wing. Cornyn doesn't want America to be great. He wants a dying camel on whose corpse he can feast. Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 09:10 PM (88C+u) 48
44 On what rational planet are the Houthis able to "make significant gains"?
These are 3rd century retards with guns. Can't we turn them into pink mist and just move on with our lives? How is this difficult? Posted by: ballistic --- Spins magic wheel. ... > The answer is the Saudis didn't show up. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:11 PM (gpvQO) 49
Those hackfrauds at Red Letter Media (whom I love) had the gall to diss "Mystery Men", a favorite. They did not recognize it for the glorious riff on Joel Schumacher Batman films that it was.
It's the closest to an actual Flaming Carrot movie that I'm likely to get. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 09:11 PM (kpS4V) 50
John Cornyn is a pussyhurt crybaby loser who is lashing out at everyone when Texans finally got enough of him selling us out at every turn like the soycuck he is. Dude can eat a mile of dicks and ask for seconds.
Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:11 PM (oqH4h) 51
Evening, Horde. I did hobby-related stuff today. Slapped the last fiberglass patches (I think, LOL) on the main body tube for the dune buggy, and bolted the spacer girdle to the bottom of the body with a whole bunch of 5/16" bolts. Then I flipped it over, and drove Tek screws in between each pair of bolts. A whole bunch of them. Then removed all the bolts. And everything stayed put! No ominous crackling of fiberglass, or heads of screws pulling through from the tension. Woot! Now the body is sitting on the floor pan. No bolts in yet; that's on the agenda for tomorrow.
And I got the ditches mowed, and a bunch of tidying/sorting done in the shop, too. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:11 PM (1z8ji) 52
The whelming.
So much whelming. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:12 PM (2Ez/1) 53
So it's not a movie thread, and it's not a music thread...
Posted by: Savage Henry at September 12, 2026 09:13 PM (ZxPkt) 54
Tucker Carlson has endorsed El-Sayed in the Michigan Senate race.
Hate to admit I was once a Sucker for Tucker. Posted by: IrishEi?! at September 12, 2026 09:13 PM (3ImbR) 55
Amazing content.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 08:44 PM (TlKpx) Only the best for you Hordelings! Posted by: Doof at September 12, 2026 09:13 PM (QMAsf) 56
Spins magic wheel. ... > The answer is the Saudis didn't show up.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:11 PM (gpvQO) ----- Nobody should expect them to. When I said "we" I meant the united states. Tell the Saudis to hold tight while we get some time on target and be done with it. Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:13 PM (oqH4h) 57
Dude can eat a mile of dicks and ask for seconds.
Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:11 PM (oqH4h) Every time Cornyn sought a donation from an actual conservative, or a vote, he felt dirty. He resented every moment he had to beg a favor from us. Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 09:13 PM (88C+u) 58
*slides down bannister*
Hi there! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 08:59 PM (kpS4V) You are supposed to use your fan to waft the smoke away from the friction zone, you know. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:14 PM (1z8ji) 59
Either Ohio state is really good or Texas sucks ass.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 09:14 PM (yEz+x) 60
Thanks for the early prep scene, Doof.
Probably involved in compiling some awesome 80s rock vids, including some Dokken (It’s not love), some XYZ (Nice Day to Die, Inside Out, or perhaps, What keeps me Loving You). Or even the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame George Harrison number, “While my Guitar Gently Weeps” with Prince, totally shredding on guitar, awesome Harrison’s kid. Posted by: Gunslinger at September 12, 2026 09:15 PM (N91F8) 61
Completed day one of a Wilderness First Aid today.
Celebrated with pizza. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:15 PM (2Ez/1) 62
30 And AI is running stuff in the background....
Same here, convert all of the XML serializers from document based to forward cursor streaming only. Should allow me to stream massive SOAP envelopes without the GC overhead. I can't imagine how many days it would take to do this by hand. Posted by: Community Notes at September 12, 2026 08:57 PM (+4Cf6) My stuff's not nearly that advanced. But what I'm working on would take me years on my own or just using search. Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 09:15 PM (Sco7b) 63
So it's not a movie thread, and it's not a music thread... Posted by: Savage Henry at September 12, 2026 09:13 PM (ZxPkt) ___________ It's a thread thread. Strong. Refined. Stripped to its essentials. The hard residue. No fluff. No distractions. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 09:15 PM (eRlcH) 64
You are supposed to use your fan to waft the smoke away from the friction zone, you know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:14 PM (1z8ji) ---- Sidesaddle baby! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 09:16 PM (kpS4V) 65
*slides down bannister* Hi there! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 08:59 PM (kpS4V) _________ No splinters. You're lucky. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 09:16 PM (eRlcH) Posted by: JQ at September 12, 2026 09:17 PM (rdVOm) 67
These are 3rd century retards with guns. Can't we turn them into pink mist and just move on with our lives? How is this difficult?
Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:09 PM (oqH4h) Gas or germs. Fuck 'em. America needs to build that Flying Crowbar (Project Pluto), and just send the damn thing on an endless loop cruise over Houthi country. No need to spew out A-bombs hither and yon. Just blast them with radiation. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:18 PM (1z8ji) 68
That yoga mat is better at hide and seek thsn I expected. Hmmm-- maybe I should check Fibber McGee's closet.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 09:19 PM (PMi3m) 69
41 Wild watching Cornyn let his freak flag fly.
>>@JohnCornyn >>The extremes of both parties—Republicans’ MAGA wing represented by JD Vance and the progressive left represented by Zohran Mamdani—have drawn closer to each other, @greg_ip writes Posted by: JackStraw Thanks, John, for reminding everyone what an impotent ponce you are. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 09:19 PM (wBh67) Posted by: Tuna at September 12, 2026 09:19 PM (lJ0H4) 71
>It's a thread thread. Strong. Refined. Stripped to its essentials. The hard residue. No fluff. No distractions.
------ It's leather-bound books and rich mahogany Posted by: Savage Henry at September 12, 2026 09:19 PM (ZxPkt) 72
I whelmed my thumb on the slide release of my XD45. Can't use a thumbs-high grip on that thing, should have remembered that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:20 PM (xcxpd) 73
To be fair, Cornyn probably thinks W is far right.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 09:20 PM (viF8m) 74
53 So it's not a movie thread, and it's not a music thread...
Posted by: Savage Henry at September 12, 2026 09:13 PM (ZxPkt) Must be a boob thread. Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 09:20 PM (PMi3m) 75
Arch Manning is NOT whelming. Seems like his name gor him where he is. Certainly isn’t showing much in the pocket.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 09:20 PM (yEz+x) 76
This is thoroughly whelming. Thanks, Doof!
Posted by: JQ at September 12, 2026 09:17 PM (rdVOm) Go pour yourself a drink from the Club bar - my treat! Posted by: Doof at September 12, 2026 09:21 PM (QMAsf) 77
speaking of sucking ass, the Colorado Rockies are now in their divinely-appointed place in the MLB rankings. 0.372, after losing to something called the Detroit Tigers (apparently, Detroit does have a baseball team, they should switch to cricket).
Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 09:22 PM (88C+u) 78
Go pour yourself a drink from the Club bar - my treat!
Posted by: Doof Why, thank you! Don't mind if I do! Posted by: JQ at September 12, 2026 09:22 PM (rdVOm) 79
49 Those hackfrauds at Red Letter Media (whom I love) had the gall to diss "Mystery Men", a favorite. They did not recognize it for the glorious riff on Joel Schumacher Batman films that it was.
It's the closest to an actual Flaming Carrot movie that I'm likely to get. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 09:11 PM (kpS4V) They really are hack frauds, they don't know very much but they get credit for being the first into long-form movie discussions. I actually think Jay might be the smartest of the bunch, never thought I'd say that. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:23 PM (xcxpd) 80
I've found the perfect way to watch football. Turn the sound off. So much more enjoyable when you don't have to listen to commentators yapping.
Posted by: Tuna at September 12, 2026 09:23 PM (lJ0H4) 81
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Nobody should expect them to. When I said "we" I meant the united states. Tell the Saudis to hold tight while we get some time on target and be done with it. Posted by: ballistic --- I think 'we' are not going to put our twinkle toes on the ground. However 'we' will tell the Saudis it' time to man up. At which time the Saudis will hire mercenaries to do their job. Because Saudis don't work. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:23 PM (gpvQO) 82
American League West meanwhile is the Texan League. Astros and Rangers are vying for who can whelm their fans most, in the 0.5 range.
Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 09:24 PM (88C+u) 83
Texas receivers can't catch a beach ball. Manning has made some really good passes but the receivers drop them.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 09:24 PM (wBh67) 84
Either Ohio state is really good or Texas sucks ass.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 09:14 PM (yEz+x) Yes Posted by: MAC V SOG at September 12, 2026 09:25 PM (P4Pk9) 85
Yo! Feeling very whelmed, almost excessively so.
Posted by: RandomDave (if you can spare a bit, please click!) at September 12, 2026 09:25 PM (aJQbY) 86
Texas sucks and Ohio St. is good.
Michigan won fair and square. Posted by: Accomack at September 12, 2026 09:25 PM (8jVAy) 87
83 Texas receivers can't catch a beach ball. Manning has made some really good passes but the receivers drop them.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 09:24 PM (wBh67) Fear of the undead is a powerful debuff Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:25 PM (xcxpd) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:26 PM (gpvQO) 89
Boots on the ground? No...but we sure knocked Iran's dick into the dirt without doing that, so why are we mucking about with some less-sophisticated sand people? Let the aircraft make pink mist and move along.
Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:26 PM (oqH4h) 90
80 I've found the perfect way to watch football. Turn the sound off. So much more enjoyable when you don't have to listen to commentators yapping.
Posted by: Tuna at September 12, 2026 09:23 PM Nothing beats the radio call. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:27 PM (2Ez/1) 91
Granted, it was against FAMU. But Miami has one hell of an offense.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 09:28 PM (viF8m) Posted by: Nick Saban at September 12, 2026 09:28 PM (2Ez/1) 93
89 Boots on the ground? No...but we sure knocked Iran's dick into the dirt without doing that, so why are we mucking about with some less-sophisticated sand people? Let the aircraft make pink mist and move along.
Posted by: ballistic --- Saudis must learn to take care of themselves. Trump may be their daddy but he's not going to be their baby sitter. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:29 PM (gpvQO) 94
Soooo, let's look at some of today's NCAAF scores: Houston, 63 - Southern, 0 (3Q!) Florida, 52 - Campbell, 3 New Mexico, 70 - Mercyhurst, 0 Notre Dame, 52 - Rice, 0 Georgia, 70 - Western Kentucky, 10 James Madison, 87 - Wagner, 3 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 09:29 PM (eRlcH) 95
My wife helped me pick a row of concord and Thompson grapes today, and I wound up pressing and canning 7 gallons (28 quarts) of grape juice. Then it started raining.
The good news is that the new ratchet press works very good with a liner in it to keep the grapes from squirting through the staves. The bad news is that I still have to figure out a way to pre-crush the grapes since I had uncrushed grapes left when I cleaned the press out. Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 09:29 PM (rbvCR) 96
PDT gave the Saudis a reality check. How's that Saudi. Turkey and Pakistan pact working out guys?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2026 09:30 PM (E0Et6) 97
Okay, that yoga mat is nowhere to be found. It's times like this I regret my decision to modernize from the luxurious shag carpet thst once adorned my den.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 09:30 PM (PMi3m) 98
I think 'we' are not going to put our twinkle toes on the ground.
However 'we' will tell the Saudis it' time to man up. At which time the Saudis will hire mercenaries to do their job. Because Saudis don't work. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:23 PM (gpvQO) There is a way around that, and the Soviets and Cubans did it all the time. Allow serving members of the military to take indefinite leave if they volunteer to become mercenaries for "approved" client States. Military pay stops for the duration, of course. But a bonus could be paid to those who return alive and well. Key takeaway? No soldier has been ordered to go fight in that conflict. If they die there, it's sad, but they knew the risks, but volunteered for the big bucks. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:30 PM (1z8ji) 99
Nothing beats the radio call.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:27 PM (2Ez/1) I knew a guy who would watch a game on TV with the sound off, and the radio on to the same game Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 09:31 PM (rbvCR) 100
94
Soooo, let's look at some of today's NCAAF scores: Houston, 63 - Southern, 0 (3Q!) Florida, 52 - Campbell, 3 New Mexico, 70 - Mercyhurst, 0 Notre Dame, 52 - Rice, 0 Georgia, 70 - Western Kentucky, 10 James Madison, 87 - Wagner, 3 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh Most big schools are still playing pre-season games. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 09:31 PM (wBh67) 101
Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex - hoppy dino at September 12, 2026 09:31 PM (XfIK1) 102
99 Nothing beats the radio call.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:27 PM (2Ez/1) I knew a guy who would watch a game on TV with the sound off, and the radio on to the same game Posted by: Kindltot My late grandfather did that. Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 12, 2026 09:32 PM (wBh67) 103
Home again, thinking of a night cap
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 09:32 PM (Ia/+0) 104
There is a way around that, and the Soviets and Cubans did it all the time. Allow serving members of the military to take indefinite leave if they volunteer to become mercenaries for "approved" client States.
There's talk the US did this too in Central America in the 1980s. Posted by: 88C+u at September 12, 2026 09:33 PM (88C+u) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 09:33 PM (9zk+V) 106
I knew a guy who would watch a game on TV with the sound off, and the radio on to the same game
Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 09:31 PM If the timing works it's the best arrangement. Radio talent is so much better than TV. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:33 PM (2Ez/1) 107
Nothing beats the radio call. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:27 PM (2Ez/1) __________ Rod Bramblett, 2013 Iron Bowl https://youtu.be/EWiuejtLXt0 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 09:34 PM (eRlcH) 108
War Eagle!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 12, 2026 09:34 PM (2Ez/1) 109
Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex - hoppy dino at September 12, 2026 09:31 PM (XfIK1) I remember having a hop vine grow at the family home when I was a very young Peon. Basically an attractive weed. I don't think they are hard to grow. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:34 PM (1z8ji) 110
101 Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex - hoppy dino at September 12, 2026 09:31 PM (XfIK1) ----- Researched this when I was into homebrewing and came to the conclusion that trying to do so at a scale and quality to even support my own efforts would be way more trouble than its worth. Also very toxic to dogs which was a no-go for my personal situation. Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:35 PM (oqH4h) 111
Must be a boob thread.
Posted by: tankdemon Viola! I give you Joan Lucille Olander https://bit.ly/mamie-van-doren Posted by: mindful webworker - u axed 4 it at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (k0Y0k) 112
Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex - hoppy dino at September 12, 2026 09:31 PM (XfIK1) I knew people who did. Hops are stupid easy to grow and it is a question if you want to grow tall vines or lots of short ones. I think the question is how to dry them for storage. Locally the farmers used forced air heat in large barns to dry the flowers on racks. You might hang the vines to dry in your garage if it is heated and dry. Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (rbvCR) 113
Know what else is an attractive weed that's not hard to grow?
Posted by: Shifty eyes at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (2Ez/1) 114
So, TJM's too much of a YouTube star to bother with us peasants?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (CHHv1) 115
Thought he was taking a break after Dallas.
Silly thought. Trump in Ireland; 2 minutes. “We took out 5,000 HARD CRIMINALS from Washington, D.C. They came in through the OPEN BORDER. No checking. No vetting. Nothing. They murdered people. We weren’t nice about it. We got them the hell out.” 2% of the people create 91% of the crime. Then he looked at Europe: “You’re just killing yourselves with immigration.” https://tinyurl.com/4epmkr68 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (gpvQO) 116
Ernie Harwell....RIP
LOL - The Toronto Blue Jays banned the unjabbed from the stadium. Last year's heartbreaking loss was fantastic. This year, Vladdy, who they signed to about a $500 million contract hasn't hit a home run IN TORONTO in over a year. He only has 8 this year. We don't deserve nice things. Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (Sco7b) 117
Be glad when he sends ICE around here.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (gpvQO) 118
The bad news is that I still have to figure out a way to pre-crush the grapes since I had uncrushed grapes left when I cleaned the press out.
Posted by: Kindltot Old laundry clothes press? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (NnhvP) 119
I looked at what growing hops once for curiosity, its not a easy crop seemed to me.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (Ia/+0) 120
often times the TV broadcast and the radio broadcast are not in sync, time-wise
TV usually on a delay my experience, anyway Posted by: Savage Henry at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (ZxPkt) 121
Today's wildlife encounter: was riding the golf cart down the yard to the parts storage bus to put a Studebaker manifold back into storage. There was a Great Horned Owl roosting on top of the bus. It took off and flew to another roost. I followed it, twice. Must have pissed it off.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (1z8ji) 122
I just saw an ad from the SEC asking congress to make eligibility rules for the NCAA.
WTF. Congress? The NCAA needs to make its own rules and enforce them. Congress? Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (yEz+x) 123
Know what else is an attractive weed that's not hard to grow?
Posted by: Shifty eyes at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (2Ez/1) Amaranth Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (rbvCR) 124
Also very toxic to dogs which was a no-go for my personal situation.
Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:35 PM *** Wow. Never knew that. Posted by: TRex - doggy dino at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (XfIK1) 125
123 Know what else is an attractive weed that's not hard to grow?
Posted by: Shifty eyes at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (2Ez/1) Amaranth Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (rbvCR) Also great ASMR Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (xcxpd) 126
Beckoning Chasm was wondering same thing
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 09:38 PM (Ia/+0) 127
Considering James Madison was a I-Aa schiol hust a few years ago, their recent success is a bit sutprising.
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 09:39 PM (PMi3m) 128
Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex Just start with a good strain. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 09:39 PM (NnhvP) 129
Eugene Hasenfus was a pilot involved in a CIA-backed operation to supply weapons to Contra rebels in Nicaragua during the Reagan administration. He became a key figure in the Iran-Contra affair after his plane was shot down in 1986, leading to revelations about U.S. government involvement in the operation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:39 PM (gpvQO) 130
Kindltot, a barrel and clean feet. The old ways are the best.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2026 09:40 PM (E0Et6) 131
Excellent whelm, Doof. I had dialysis today so whelm is all I can handle this evening.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 12, 2026 09:40 PM (DK5Sh) Posted by: mindful webworker - bar DOT? at September 12, 2026 09:40 PM (k0Y0k) 133
114 So, TJM's too much of a YouTube star to bother with us peasants?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (CHHv1) I think he's doing family stuff this weekend. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:40 PM (xcxpd) 134
Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex How many gallons is your mash tun and boil pot? Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 09:41 PM (NnhvP) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2026 09:41 PM (Cqx++) 136
Viola!
I give you Joan Lucille Olander https://bit.ly/mamie-van-doren It lifts AND separates. Cross your heart. Posted by: Playtex at September 12, 2026 09:41 PM (2Ez/1) 137
128 Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex Just start with a good strain. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 09:39 PM (NnhvP) My favorite Strain was Julie RIP Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:41 PM (xcxpd) 138
Let the Saudis hire Indians (they like to fight) or Mexicans (they like to fight), there a many other people, Canadians are good fighters, to hire other than Americans.
We need our guys to stay home and make babies. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:41 PM (gpvQO) 139
111 Must be a boob thread.
Posted by: tankdemon Viola! I give you Joan Lucille Olander https://bit.ly/mamie-van-doren Posted by: mindful webworker - u axed 4 it at September 12, 2026 09:36 PM (k0Y0k) I happily accept your generous offer. Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 09:42 PM (PMi3m) 140
This year, Vladdy, who they signed to about a $500 million contract hasn't hit a home run IN TORONTO in over a year. He only has 8 this year.
We don't deserve nice things. Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (Sco7b) I often see Jays games when I go to the Elnora Hotel for Wednesday Wing Nite. He is a classy player. Always seems to have a joke or a kind word for the opposing runner at first base. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:43 PM (1z8ji) 141
91 Granted, it was against FAMU. But Miami has one hell of an offense.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 09:28 PM (viF8m) Top tier cheerleader trim too Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:44 PM (xcxpd) 142
116 Ernie Harwell....RIP
Posted by: Stateless George Kell, too. Best baseball play by play team ever. Posted by: Auspex at September 12, 2026 09:44 PM (Y8DZL) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:44 PM (gpvQO) 144
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Kudzu at September 12, 2026 09:45 PM (2Ez/1) 145
Caldonia, what makes your big head so hard?
youtu.be/wZ_aCGKP7Gs?t=25 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:06 PM (gpvQO) Sydney Sweeney, mostly. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 09:45 PM (dK+Kv) 146
Top tier cheerleader trim too Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 12, 2026 09:44 PM (xcxpd) _________ Southern girls. Yum. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 09:45 PM (eRlcH) 147
When is Michigan going to play a road game?
No gas money? Posted by: Case at September 12, 2026 09:46 PM (xJpuh) 148
Wild watching Cornyn let his freak flag fly.
>>@JohnCornyn >>The extremes of both parties—Republicans’ MAGA wing represented by JD Vance and the progressive left represented by Zohran Mamdani—have drawn closer to each other, @greg_ip writes Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 09:07 PM (viF8m) Does he think he's speaking to leftist NPCs? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 09:46 PM (dK+Kv) 149
Does he think
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 09:46 PM (dK+Kv) ---- no Posted by: ballistic at September 12, 2026 09:47 PM (oqH4h) 150
John Cornyn. Who?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2026 09:48 PM (E0Et6) Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 09:49 PM (viF8m) 152
Old laundry clothes press?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (NnhvP) They make cane presses like that, they are called Trapiche in Spanish. The wineries use a sort of pugmill to pre-crush the grapes, but that is more than what I want. I could run it through a garbage disposal but that grinds up the stems as well, which alters the taste of the juice. I am going to have to make some drawings. I wonder if I could build some sort of rotary device like a Foley food mill I use to strain apple sauce Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 09:49 PM (rbvCR) 153
There were a few farmers in Western NY that grew hops. Pretty cool. Tall vines 20'+. The one was a preferred grower for Southern Tier Brewing.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 09:49 PM (h06De) 154
HERO -- This is an American Badass: The Inspector Who Sent the 20th Hijacker Home
Jose Melendez-Perez did his job. On August 4, 2001, that took courage. --- Mohammed al-Qahtani, a 26-year-old Saudi. --- Another inspector warned Melendez-Perez he would get in trouble for turning a Saudi away. Melendez-Perez said he could not do the work with dignity if nationality decided who got in. He refused him entry anyway. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:50 PM (gpvQO) 155
Elder statesmen lawyer-type Senators are a thing of the past, soon. Gonzo beats gravitas going forward. Cornyn should have seen that coming Posted by: Auspex at September 12, 2026 09:51 PM (Y8DZL) 156
I think hops is grown in Germany in Mountains so probably a cooler areas
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 09:51 PM (Ia/+0) 157
Does he think he's speaking to leftist NPCs?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon --- He woke up the somnambulists with his gun control crap. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:52 PM (gpvQO) 158
Yakima , WA is one of the world’s top producers of hops.
Whole town smells like a brewery in late sept, early Oct. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 09:53 PM (yEz+x) 159
I often see Jays games when I go to the Elnora Hotel for Wednesday Wing Nite. He is a classy player. Always seems to have a joke or a kind word for the opposing runner at first base.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:43 PM (1z8ji) I know. And I hope he has a great career. I have nothing against him. But if he's gone this long without a homer, you may as well go the full year. Like the one year the Detroit Lions were horrible even for them. 0-16. Amazing. 1-15. So what. Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 09:54 PM (Sco7b) 160
Know what else is an attractive weed that's not hard to grow?
Posted by: Shifty eyes If I correctly recall my readings from "underground" literature of over half a century ago, hops and hemp are the only known relatives of one another (like pandas and raccoons). I wondered, if you could cross them (probably by grafting), if you could make a beer with happy weed potency. Never got around to trying. Posted by: mindful webworker - Jamaican Red Stripe at September 12, 2026 09:54 PM (k0Y0k) 161
No soldier has been ordered to go fight in that conflict. If they die there, it's sad, but they knew the risks, but volunteered for the big bucks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 09:30 PM (1z8ji) The only thing worse that being world police is world mercenary force with no air assets, no tomahawks, no sat/drone support. No like. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 09:54 PM (dK+Kv) 162
soon, Cornyn too shall pass
Posted by: a fart in the wind at September 12, 2026 09:55 PM (88C+u) 163
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The Immigration Act of 1990 marked a pivotal change in U.S. immigration policy, focusing on both family and employment-based immigration while also addressing humanitarian concerns. Introduced by Senator Ted Kennedy in 1989. Passed the Senate and House with significant bipartisan support. Signed into law by President George H. W. Bush. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:57 PM (gpvQO) 164
Yakima , WA is one of the world’s top producers of hops.
Whole town smells like a brewery in late sept, early Oct. Posted by: nurse ratched This not actually a problem for normal adults. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 09:58 PM (NnhvP) 165
Liam Out Loud on what we have been dealing with from the left.
https://tinyurl.com/3nj78ry5 Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at September 12, 2026 09:58 PM (ZFutt) 166
161 No soldier has been ordered to go fight in that conflict. If they die there, it's sad, but they knew the risks, but volunteered for the big bucks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon --- Saudis bombed the Towers. We are not going to bleed for them. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:59 PM (gpvQO) 167
Thought he was taking a break after Dallas.
Silly thought. Trump in Ireland; 2 minutes. “We took out 5,000 HARD CRIMINALS from Washington, D.C. They came in through the OPEN BORDER. No checking. No vetting. Nothing. They murdered people. We weren’t nice about it. We got them the hell out.” 2% of the people create 91% of the crime. Then he looked at Europe: “You’re just killing yourselves with immigration.” https://tinyurl.com/4epmkr68 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:37 PM (gpvQO) Love that man. No homo. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 12, 2026 10:00 PM (dK+Kv) 168
One more look aroind for thst yoga mat-- did I leave it in the back of the station wagon?
Posted by: tankdemon at September 12, 2026 10:00 PM (PMi3m) 169
NOOD
ONT Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (Sco7b) 170
ONT IS NOOD
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 10:01 PM (Ia/+0) 171
To be fair, Cornyn probably thinks W is far right.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 09:20 PM (viF8m) He thinks no such thing. He’s just in it for himself, and we got in the way. Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 10:02 PM (TlKpx) 172
Kindltot, a barrel and clean feet. The old ways are the best.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2026 09:40 PM (E0Et6) There are videos out there of traditional Spanish wine pressing festivals with that sort of thing. I have been using my hands to squish the grapes in a five gallon bucket. It was all I needed with the old hand-made press, but I have a ratchet press now that takes 15 gallons of fruit at a time, so I need higher throughput, and I don't have a crowd of drunken Spaniards at my beck and call to stomp grapes for me! Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 10:06 PM (rbvCR) 173
You would think Texas could buy better players.
Posted by: Case at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (xJpuh) 174
Saudis bombed the Towers. We are not going to bleed for them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 09:59 PM (gpvQO) Well, I think, but am not certain, that current leader, Mohammed Bin Salman, is a lot more sane than his predecessor. He has had a few jihadis taken out. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 10:09 PM (1z8ji) 175
Yakima , WA is one of the world’s top producers of hops.
Whole town smells like a brewery in late sept, early Oct. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 09:53 PM (yEz+x) Mount Angel, Brooks and Independence all have lots of hop yards. Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 10:11 PM (rbvCR) 176
Anyone here grow hops for beer at small scale for a hobby? Good or bad experience?
Posted by: TRex ------- *Raises paw* Wish I could share pics and data, but alas, me old computer died before I backed it up... Grew them in cube-shaped planters that hubby built from leftover cedar boards. 2x2x2ft, and filled with 1:1 mixture of Miracle-Gro plotting soil and Kellogg's Soil Amendment (cheap for 3cu ft bags!), then 1/3 bag of bagged compost for each planter. Ordered rhizomes online and planted in early March. Check your county extension website for recommended varieties, planting times and general care. They're not difficult! Posted by: JQ at September 12, 2026 10:16 PM (rdVOm) 177
if you want to defeat islam start planting kudzu or multiflora rose near the mosque
Posted by: what the cat drug in at September 12, 2026 10:35 PM (jrgJz) Hobby Thread - September 12, 2026 [TRex]![]() Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) is feeling lucky and decided on a farm tractor theme for this Hobby Thread. A farm tractor theme? Yep. Let's get tractoring! [Top photo: John Deere Model 80, Canfield Ohio Fair]![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Words of wisdom: "Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD). Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Or just email to say hello. Do mighty things. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
I get allergic smelling hay!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:31 PM (1Ff7Z) 2
I don't know if I'd want to go to a retired tractor display. They'd probably just sit around bitching about how bad things are today.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:33 PM (1Ff7Z) 3
If any among the Horde embark on pallet hobbying projects, send a photo. Thank you!
I took apart a couple of pallets to make a tool corral for the yard implements. Looks like crap, so I won't embarrass my construction abilities by sending in a photo. Does the job, but it'd probably lose a beauty contest to Dylan Mulvaney. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:35 PM (1Ff7Z) 4
"She might have took my car keys --
But she forgot about my old John Deere!" "She thinks my tractor's sexy . . ." Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:37 PM (wzUl9) 5
Couldn't have bulldozers or tanks if it weren't for Benjamin Holt and the Caterpillar.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:40 PM (1Ff7Z) 6
If model kit companies like Revell or he long-defunct Aurora had the wide range of assembly kits of the '60s and '70s, I'm sure at least one would produce a tractor in 1/25 scale to go along with a vintage Ford pickup truck. That 1938 JD looks like a good candidate. You could create a cool diorama: the tractor outside a barn or farmhouse, the dusty pickup nearby, and the stocky farmer with overalls or suspenders.
A double kit, perhaps, with tractor and pickup? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:41 PM (wzUl9) 7
Looks like it's just you and me, Wolfus.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:45 PM (1Ff7Z) 8
As for pipe smoking: Last week I received two "pay-it-forward" free vintage pipes, a Weber billiard (the classic cylindrical shape) and an "apple" (plump, rounded bowl) Canadian Club brand. I've smoked both and enjoyed them, esp. the Weber. Another member of that forum offered a couple of bowls of a blend from a shop in Jackson, MS, and I took him up on it: "Old Fashioned," it's called. A nice toasted sort of aroma and even a bit of flavor, smoked in the Canadian Club.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:46 PM (wzUl9) 9
I've only smoke cigars, Wolfus. One of my uncles was a pipe man. Only quit after his first heart attack.
One thing I can say about pipe smoke, is it doesn't make me gag like cigarettes. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:47 PM (1Ff7Z) 10
Oh fun! Tractors! Unfortunately, I didn’t get very many of my babies’ baby picture in the Great Divorce. They were all the computer, which he took, of course. One that I do have is of my youngest, with new walking feet, standing by a great big ol’ John Deere tire on our horse farm. I LOVE that picture. It’s adorable.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 05:47 PM (ZdaMQ) 11
Whew! At least someone else is here. It was getting a bit lonely.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:49 PM (1Ff7Z) 12
The "Old Fashioned" blend contains Virginia, burley, Dark Fired Kentucky (which can be strong), and some Cavendish. I only recently found that "Cavendish" is a process, not a kind of tobacco, and that both burleys and Virginias can be used as a base for Cavendish preparation. The pipe shop's website says the Cavendish in this blend is based on burley.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:50 PM (wzUl9) 13
I have 8 Deere tractors that run. All 2 cylinders except for my little loader tractor. It's a 750 4 WD with a 3 cylinder Yanmar engine. Also have a Grey market Kubota. Wasn't meant to be sold in the US.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 05:50 PM (IFwjj) 14
Unfortunately, my hobbies are pretty dang boring and for the most part, I share them with y’all on the daily. More than you want, I am sure! But there is something incredibly iconic about a John Deere.
Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 05:51 PM (ZdaMQ) 15
I'm still working on the Bayou Jumper radio mentioned above (thanks, TRex). The stain and finish on the case turned out well. I've mostly got the guts of the radio soldered onto the circuit board, but these last few steps that involve mounting connectors have been challenging. I'm going to step away from the workbench for a while. I think I've earned a break, and maybe a drink. I'll send pictures once I get it all together and tested (assuming it passes the smoke test).
Posted by: PabloD at September 12, 2026 05:52 PM (B7yLN) 16
My dad's side was country folk, but I don't ever remember them having a tractor. Some horses around and some plows, but no tractors.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:52 PM (1Ff7Z) 17
My association with tractors begins and ends with a John Deere kid's model, pedaled like a tricycle. No idea why my folks got it for me but it was so cool, way better than the typical trike my friends had. Must have been pretty well made since it survived to be used by my little brother a few years later.
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 05:53 PM (yTvNw) 18
Well, a motorized scythe is just a lawnmower. Just with a double, rotating blade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 05:53 PM (zZu0s) 19
I've only smoke cigars, Wolfus. One of my uncles was a pipe man. Only quit after his first heart attack.
One thing I can say about pipe smoke, is it doesn't make me gag like cigarettes. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 *** You don't inhale that stuff any more than you do cigars. If you did I'd never have gotten into the pipe years ago, or again recently after a long layoff. I've tried a few of the little cigarillos, and they're fine, but I only smoke those outdoors; and ten months of the year it's too hot to be outside here. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:54 PM (wzUl9) 20
Top picture is a Model A not 80.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 05:54 PM (IFwjj) 21
Going to see a drone show in a bit
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 05:57 PM (qEb4U) 22
Orange tractors rule.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 05:58 PM (2Cry5) 23
You don't inhale that stuff any more than you do cigars. If you did I'd never have gotten into the pipe years ago, or again recently after a long layoff.
I've tried a few of the little cigarillos, and they're fine, but I only smoke those outdoors; and ten months of the year it's too hot to be outside here. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:54 PM (wzUl9) So, just puffing on it, then exhale? That seems to me it's more for the aroma then the actual hit from the nicotine like in cigarettes. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:59 PM (1Ff7Z) 24
Long ago, use to be a Grange Fair and would be hundreds of tractors, some all but a hundred yo.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 05:59 PM (qEb4U) 25
20 Top picture is a Model A not 80.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 05:54 PM *** Thanks for the correction! Posted by: TRex - fuzzy sign photo dino at September 12, 2026 05:59 PM (XfIK1) 26
It wouldn't be accurate to say I grew up on a farm but I did live on one for a number of years once my mom's horse bug became an addiction. And yea, we had a Deere. No idea the model number but it had a bucket in front and a PTO in back which my dad, the tool, addict. took for a message from God to buy ever crazy piece of stuff ever made. And I spent far too much of my life in that thing.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre had nothing on my dad's workshop. Truth is it was a ton of fun. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 06:00 PM (viF8m) 27
I wonder if part of the interest in old tractors and other farm equipment is respect for seriously well-made machines that are worth preserving. Things that were designed to last through real use. I put manual typewriters and classic firearms in the same category.
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:00 PM (yTvNw) 28
Orange tractors rule.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 05:58 PM (2Cry5) Well, yeah. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 06:00 PM (1Ff7Z) 29
27 I wonder if part of the interest in old tractors and other farm equipment is respect for seriously well-made machines that are worth preserving. Things that were designed to last through real use. I put manual typewriters and classic firearms in the same category.
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:00 Maybe a longing for a past time, too, even though we have romanticized what those lives actually were. Posted by: Piper at September 12, 2026 06:01 PM (ZdaMQ) 30
So, just puffing on it, then exhale? That seems to me it's more for the aroma then the actual hit from the nicotine like in cigarettes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:59 PM (1Ff7Z) You're still getting a bit of nicotine from both the smoke rolling over your gums and cheeks and stray vapor being inhaled. The problem is the smoke is far too harsh to inhale directly most of the time (think Pall Mall non filter 100s.) It'll screw you up. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 06:01 PM (zZu0s) 31
I wonder if part of the interest in old tractors and other farm equipment is respect for seriously well-made machines that are worth preserving. Things that were designed to last through real use. I put manual typewriters and classic firearms in the same category.
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:00 PM (yTvNw) Same as vinyl and books. Not cars, though. Beautiful and powerful, but not as safe or long-lasting as today's boring boxes. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 06:02 PM (1Ff7Z) 32
Looks like it's just you and me, Wolfus.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 05:45 PM (1Ff7Z) ===== We are always watching. And waiting. Posted by: Council of Cats at September 12, 2026 06:03 PM (RIvkX) 33
And always remember the rule of thumb of pipe tobacco.
Tastes good---> smells horrible. Smells good----> tastes horrible. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 06:04 PM (zZu0s) 34
You're still getting a bit of nicotine from both the smoke rolling over your gums and cheeks and stray vapor being inhaled. The problem is the smoke is far too harsh to inhale directly most of the time (think Pall Mall non filter 100s.) It'll screw you up. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 06:01 PM (zZu0s) The smoke's in the mouth only pretty much, so I'd expect some kind of reaction, just not as strong as coffin nails. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 06:04 PM (1Ff7Z) 35
So, just puffing on it, then exhale? That seems to me it's more for the aroma then the actual hit from the nicotine like in cigarettes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 *** Exactly right. A little nicotine ("Vitamin N") is absorbed into your mouth, I guess, and strong blends can make your head spin, so I avoid those or mix them with milder blends. If I haven't worked out, a morning pipe does give a bit of a lift, along with my coffee. The other day I had to fast for a blood draw. No food, coffee, or (I was guessing) pipe that morning. At breakfast later, the coffee provided a definite lift. So did the pipe I loaded and smoked that afternoon. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 06:04 PM (wzUl9) 36
I believe Weasel drives a John Deere at the start of his YT videos at Weasel Acres.
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:05 PM (yTvNw) 37
We are always watching.
And waiting. Posted by: Council of Cats at September 12, 2026 06:03 PM (RIvkX) Us too. Posted by: The Vets at September 12, 2026 06:05 PM (1Ff7Z) 38
I recently added a 3rd function to my 1025r so I could add a grapple.
Getting a tractor is a game changer, getting a grapple is like getting a super power. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 12, 2026 06:05 PM (XV/Pl) 39
[Less politics. More tractors. Thank you. - TRex]
Posted by: Paul at September 12, 2026 06:06 PM (gM2YV) 40
I still work out 3-4 mornings a week, and my walk/run time over two miles is about the same as in 2020 before I took up the pipe again. So I don't think a pipe a day has affected my endurance or wind.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 06:07 PM (wzUl9) 41
Rule of thumb: get your mind out of the gutter. No wait: get your mind out of the Biden.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 12, 2026 06:08 PM (wxsGM) 42
Lol.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 06:08 PM (zZu0s) 43
[More tractoring. Less politics. Thank you. -TRex]
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 12, 2026 06:10 PM (wxsGM) 44
And when a little guy many years my grandfather took me to the Steam show out near Lancaster. My sister says she went sometimes as well.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 06:10 PM (qEb4U) 45
I've never understood the concept of smoking and NOT inhaling. Isn't that like chewing your food and spitting it out?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2026 06:11 PM (Cqx++) 46
Same as vinyl and books. Not cars, though. Beautiful and powerful, but not as safe or long-lasting as today's boring boxes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 *** I know. Everywhere you go, cars all look the same, like almonds, shaped to wedge under the wind. All in the same dull metallic colors, or black or white, with only an occasional red, blue, green, or yellow. And only gray, cream, or black interiors. It's still possible to get a ruby red car with a cream interior, like my Buick. But I wonder how much longer. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 06:12 PM (wzUl9) 47
Vintage tractors are cool. Vintage bulldozers are super cool.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 12, 2026 06:12 PM (S41Gd) 48
Little turned 21 last week, so he purchased and smoked his first legal cigar, a Padron 1965 Anniversary. My present to him was a Buffalo Trace Old Fashioned, prepared by the capable and nubile Avery at my favorite cigar lounge in downtown Sarasota.
He went back later in the week with a friend. It would seem that this hobby has been successfully passed on to the next generation.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 12, 2026 06:13 PM (nbLIj) 49
Deere's first crawlers were converted to tracks by the Lindeman company in Lindeman, Washington. The first Deere crawler was the Model M crawler.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 06:13 PM (IFwjj) 50
44 And when a little guy many years my grandfather took me to the Steam show out near Lancaster. My sister says she went sometimes as well.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 06:10 PM *** There are a bunch of videos on YT from the steam show. Seems like something I ought to visit at least once... Posted by: TRex - digger dino at September 12, 2026 06:14 PM (XfIK1) 51
45 I've never understood the concept of smoking and NOT inhaling. Isn't that like chewing your food and spitting it out?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2026 06:11 PM (Cqx++) Its hard not to do reflexively after you've smoked cigarettes. (Which is why I haven't smoked a pipe in a long time.) Part of the allure of smoking is the ritual. Deep breaths. Quiet moments. Fixed amount of time as the tobacco burns. Tools (lighter, scraper, etc.) Pipe smoking takes that and focuses on it, rather than the pure nicotine hit. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 06:14 PM (zZu0s) 52
Sister, parents and me heading to this drone show
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 06:16 PM (qEb4U) 53
Have fun, skip.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 06:17 PM (zZu0s) 54
Its hard not to do reflexively after you've smoked cigarettes. (Which is why I haven't smoked a pipe in a long time.)
Part of the allure of smoking is the ritual. Deep breaths. Quiet moments. Fixed amount of time as the tobacco burns. Tools (lighter, scraper, etc.) Pipe smoking takes that and focuses on it, rather than the pure nicotine hit. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 06:14 PM (zZu0s) My bass player smokes anything that burns. Pipes, cigars cigarettes, even a vape. Showed up a few weeks ago with a church warden. I called him Frodo. lol Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 12, 2026 06:17 PM (S41Gd) 55
Vintage tractors are cool. Vintage bulldozers are super cool.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 12, 2026 06:12 PM (S41Gd) Like the D9?! LIKE THE D9?! Posted by: Rachel Corrie at September 12, 2026 06:17 PM (1Ff7Z) 56
For Wolfus, OrangeEnt and other pipe smokers. I don't get a nicotine hit from pipe smoking but I appreciate the taste of the tobacco(s) in the blend. In my younger days I was a HEAVY cigarette smoker: 4 to 5 packs of Winstons or Marlboros a day, so I know what a nicotine hit is like. (I was often working 16 hour days back then and you could smoke about anywhere.) I quit cigarettes over 40 years ago and eventually I was able to start tasting things again, including food and pipe tobacco.
Smoking cigarettes is a chemical addiction as well as a habit. Pipe smoking is a relaxing mind set that doesn't dominate you physically. Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:18 PM (yTvNw) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 06:19 PM (eRlcH) 58
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:18 PM (yTvNw)
Sorry, JTB. My uncle was a pipe smoker. I never have, only a couple of cigars decades ago. I don't smoke. Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 12, 2026 06:21 PM (1Ff7Z) 59
This week I started work on the Revell 1/24 scale Ford F950 Earthfucker kit. Not sure yet what color I'll paint it.
Posted by: far cry at September 12, 2026 06:22 PM (wBRco) 60
The first tractor I drove was a Deere Model D. Dad told me to drive it through the field/pasture gate. I was nervous, jammed the hand clutch instead of engaging it slowly. Dad buggered his shin trying to get things under control.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 06:23 PM (IFwjj) 61
The guy who bulldozed and leveled the back yard at the old house used a restored 1947 CAT D4. It was frigging cool. I was calling it the Iwo Jima model.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 12, 2026 06:24 PM (S41Gd) Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 06:25 PM (viF8m) 63
I was a HEAVY cigarette smoker: 4 to 5 packs of Winstons or Marlboros a day, so I know what a nicotine hit is like.
Posted by: JTB ________ Jeez, you must have been continuously lighting one off the end of another. I smoked and dipped for about 20 years. Got to the point with dipping that I didnt use a spitter. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 12, 2026 06:28 PM (XvL8K) 64
I wonder if part of the interest in old tractors and other farm equipment is respect for seriously well-made machines that are worth preserving. Things that were designed to last through real use. I put manual typewriters and classic firearms in the same category.
Posted by: JTB Shade tree mechanics can get an old tractor running and working. new ones... not so much. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 06:30 PM (NnhvP) 65
Dad tried pipe smoking after his favorite cigar brand changed from a natural leaf to a composite wrapper. Give the man credit, I always thought they were foul, cheap, things from the get go. Nope, it was the cellulose and scraps wrapper that did it for him.
A cousin suggested he try smoking a pipe, which he did for a while. His biggest complaint was the work involved for maybe a 10-15 minute smoke. In the late 90's I turned him on to hand rolled sticks from a local shop in his old Ironbound neighborhood, and he was happily back to cigars.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 12, 2026 06:31 PM (nbLIj) 66
Between old injuries and getting older my hands aren't as nimble as they were. I'm going to try crochet to get some dexterity back but in a gentle way. I considered knitting but crochet appears to require more and varied hand motions. I have the hooks and yarn. Doesn't matter what I try to make, just want to learn and get the exercise. (Probably as well. My first attempts will likely look like something from an HP Lovecraft story.)
Any folks here who got involved with fiber arts to help with their hands? Did it help? Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:33 PM (yTvNw) 67
Shade tree mechanics can get an old tractor running and working. new ones... not so much.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 06:30 PM *** The downside of electronics and computers. Posted by: TRex - shadetree dino at September 12, 2026 06:34 PM (XfIK1) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 06:37 PM (yEz+x) 69
I've driven a few different brands of tractors. Case, Ford, Ferguson IH. The IH model M and H clutch seemed like an on and off switch. Not engaged to fully engaged and off you go.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 06:42 PM (IFwjj) 70
The downside of electronics and computers.
Posted by: TRex - shadetree dino The right to repair argument. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 06:42 PM (NnhvP) 71
63 ... "Jeez, you must have been continuously lighting one off the end of another."
Biff, Pretty much. Quitting cigarettes was the second smartest thing I ever did. (Marrying Mrs. JTB was the smartest.) Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:44 PM (yTvNw) 72
I think that steam show still maybe going on, pass the field going to the Lancaster war game conventions. Trued to find the name but unsuccessful.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 06:45 PM (QLHQ2) 73
>>(Marrying Mrs. JTB was the smartest.)
She's standing behind you right now, isn't she. Blink twice if you need help. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 06:47 PM (viF8m) 74
Grandparents had an old White tractor on the farm. There was an International, no idea the model, that was behind the barn. Steel wheels and all. Complete rust.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 06:48 PM (h06De) 75
72 I think that steam show still maybe going on, pass the field going to the Lancaster war game conventions. Trued to find the name but unsuccessful.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 06:45 PM *** National Pike Steam Show in Brownsville, PA Small event in May, bigger annual event in August. Posted by: TRex - dozer dino at September 12, 2026 06:50 PM (XfIK1) 76
I use Blick for some art supplies so they have my email. A coupe of days ago I got one touting their many new fiber arts items: looms, kits, needlepoint yarns and threads, etc. I didn't even know they offered any. I assume interest in fiber arts is on the rise if Blick is adding it to their inventory. Just FYI.
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 06:50 PM (yTvNw) 77
National Pike Steam Show in Brownsville, PA
Small event in May, bigger annual event in August. Posted by: TRex - dozer dino Saw it advertised, but never went. It looks cool. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 06:51 PM (h06De) 78
Pfft. Only a commie bohunk would be caught driving a John Deere Model 80.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 12, 2026 06:54 PM (4Je4D) 79
A tractor is indispensable for me. A few weeks ago I pulled up 60 feet of concrete driveway to replace it. I use them to move engines and stuff, clear fallen trees, digging holes, grading, moving dirt, gravel, etc. Then there's bush hogging and mowing. Here and at the farm. So I have 3 and a ZTR mower.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 06:54 PM (MWfyi) 80
Meh. It's no Hoyt-Clagwell Model F.
Posted by: Oliver Wendell Douglas at September 12, 2026 06:56 PM (4Je4D) 81
Rough and Tumble Steam show Kinzer Pa, was a couple weeks ago
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 06:56 PM (QLHQ2) 82
My dad grew up on a dairy farm in Laramie, WY, in the 1930's. He and his little brother ran a team of horses to plow, harrow, plant, mow hay, etc., so dad would have started that when he was about 8 years old and his brother was six. He saw other farms with tractors, but they didn't get one until the 1940's.
The did have a steam thresher come through every year, and he remembers when one exploded on a farm a good 10 miles away. Everyone heard it, and they thought the world was coming to an end. I guess about a dozen people died in that accident. Just awful. As dangerous as farming can be, modernization has meant a huge level of safety. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 06:57 PM (Ntshk) 83
The first four-wheeled motorized vehicle I ever drove [at age 12, 1977] was the 1932 Allis-Chalmers B that my dad had just bought. He had me drive it home, with him trailing in the pickup truck, mostly because the fellow who had volunteered to loan him a trailer hadn't mentioned the trailer had 3 flat tires and one tire-free wheel. Dad had already committed to pick up the tractor that day, so pick it up we did.
After he retired, Dad take up "flywheeling" as his main hobby. He bought a series of rundown tractors and restored them to showroom stock. His favorite, and the one he kept rather than sold after restoration, was a Minneapolis-Moline. if you want to get into the hobby, I'd recommend seeking out your local Flywheelers' Club. Posted by: Gundo at September 12, 2026 06:58 PM (1a7fN) 84
The did have a steam thresher come through every year, and he remembers when one exploded on a farm a good 10 miles away. Everyone heard it, and they thought the world was coming to an end. I guess about a dozen people died in that accident. Just awful.
Pfft. Ever had your testicles caught up in a John Deere Combine Harvester? Posted by: One-Ball Saul at September 12, 2026 06:59 PM (4Je4D) 85
If you are familiar with Branson tractors, they got bought by a South Korean company,TYM, that builds pretty much the same tractor in Rome, Georgia. It uses a 3 cyl Cummins clone that's parts compatible with the one Branson was licensed to build. Anyway I got one and its a pretty good tractor for the price and it has a cab and AC which is glorious. I call it Tim.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 06:59 PM (MWfyi) 86
I have about 300 years of Quebec farmers in my ancestry. Bet they would have loved to have tractors to work the ground.
Posted by: JTB at September 12, 2026 07:00 PM (yTvNw) 87
Deere got into the tractor business when they bought the Waterloo Boy tractor company. Great for collecting, not so much for farming. Their first Deere tractor was the Model D, then the 3 row GP, kind of a failure.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 07:01 PM (IFwjj) 88
if you want to get into the hobby, I'd recommend seeking out your local Flywheelers' Club.
Posted by: Gundo at September 12, 2026 06:58 PM *** I can look on the interweb later, but are Flywheelers Clubs common? Posted by: TRex - vintage dino at September 12, 2026 07:03 PM (XfIK1) 89
The 25hp TYM I got a couple of years ago has no electronics. That's one of the reasons I got it. Also, because it's under 25hp, it doesn't use DEF. Even at only 25hp it will pick up over 2000 lbs. I looked at 40hps but this one does the job.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:03 PM (MWfyi) 90
I had a old little John Deere I sold to an old guy who had a whole barn full of JD tractors. He said he had over 100 and they were all pre 1980 or so.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:08 PM (MWfyi) 91
"I can look on the interweb later, but are Flywheelers Clubs common?"
I'm pretty sure they are. I know my Dad's club had shared events with several other Flywheelers' Clubs in Michigan. Posted by: Gundo at September 12, 2026 07:08 PM (1a7fN) 92
90 I had a old little John Deere I sold to an old guy who had a whole barn full of JD tractors. He said he had over 100 and they were all pre 1980 or so.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:08 PM *** Was his name Ronster? Posted by: TRex - flywheeler dino at September 12, 2026 07:09 PM (XfIK1) 93
Just got back from my sister and brother in law's farm. Chickens, cattle, goats, some sheep and pigs. My sister is an SC health inspector., so I arrived home loaded with healthy vittles.
Tractors, skid loaders, trailers, freezers. Everywhere. Posted by: mrp at September 12, 2026 07:10 PM (rj6Yv) 94
I plan on getting a Ford 8N sometime soon. The canonical tractor.
And freaking 75 years old. But working models available for under $2000. Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2026 07:11 PM (NlEaG) 95
https://walloonlakeflywheelers.com/
Posted by: Gundo at September 12, 2026 07:12 PM (1a7fN) 96
Ford 8N is EMP proof.
Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2026 07:12 PM (NlEaG) 97
During WW11, Deere was asked to build something for the war.
They took an unstyled A and wrapped it with steel plating. They weren't really trying. I've seen pictures of it. It is to laugh. Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 07:12 PM (IFwjj) 98
>>If you are familiar with Branson tractors, they got bought by a South Korean company,TYM, that builds pretty much the same tractor in Rome, Georgia. It uses a 3 cyl Cummins clone that's parts compatible with the one Branson was licensed to build. Anyway I got one and its a pretty good tractor for the price and it has a cab and AC which is glorious. I call it Tim.
Saw a video on X posted by a woman who is taking over the family farm in Iowa. She posted it from the cab of her ginormous tractor. Everything was computer and gps driven Which she oversaw from her air conditioned perch Incredible how sophisticated farming has become. Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 07:12 PM (viF8m) 99
"Was his name Ronster?
Posted by: TRex - flywheeler dino" I don't remember. He was an old black gentleman, with white hair and dressed in overalls. I was glad he got it, because I was tired of messing with it, and he didn't have one like it so we were both happy. Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:14 PM (MWfyi) Posted by: Great Plains Drifter at September 12, 2026 07:15 PM (85Bnm) 101
I have heard you need 1hp per acre. Seems about right. So the 25hp of an 8N means it would not be main tractor.
I want a Lamborghini like Clarkson. Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2026 07:15 PM (NlEaG) 102
I have a John Deere 770, but the finer work is what has to happen today, so out there with D-1 and a grubbing hoe...glad I can still do this kind of thing...hope I can still stand up straight tomorrow.
Well, water glass is empty - back to it. Posted by: Don in SoCc at September 12, 2026 07:16 PM (I9XXk) Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:17 PM (MWfyi) 104
My BIL operates two D6 dozers for the landfill work and to cut roads and trails on the property.
Posted by: mrp at September 12, 2026 07:20 PM (rj6Yv) 105
Obviously don't own or restore tractors, but just want to jump in to say how awesome it all is. Anything that I can fit into the "Industrial Age, Industrial Art" category is primo. Only aspect I dabble (slightly) in is rifles, where the "industrial art" of my M1s and carbine never cease to please. Even the Mosin-Nagants in their own way, especially when you see how the "industrial art" was slimmed down to "we need it now!" in the war-time examples.
Was focused on other parts of the puzzle but always instinctively felt like I agreed with my friends who lamented America's departure from *making things* during the great off-shoring debacle. Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2026 07:21 PM (U/Byj) 106
Got a 1964 MF Super 90 Diesel high crop tractor I use to mow firebreaks out back, and plow snow when my 1970-ish IH Payloader won't start.
Had to split the tractor to replace the clutch, and put the Payloader together from a pile of parts my neighbor gave me - he runs an excavation business and had the machine sitting for 15 years. Posted by: Chuck Kuecker at September 12, 2026 07:23 PM (UxT09) 107
"I have heard you need 1hp per acre. Seems about right. So the 25hp of an 8N means it would not be main tractor."
That depends on what you are going to do with it. We don't farm anything but trees so no plowing spraying harvesting etc. A 25hp diesel is amazing strong. Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:23 PM (MWfyi) 108
I want a Lamborghini like Clarkson.
Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2026 07:15 PM *** I can hear his voice "POWER!!!" and "How hard can it be??" We were trackside for a race of Porsche tractors a few years ago at Laguna Seca. Despite a paddock full of unobtainium Porsche race cars, the tractors were the biggest hit of the weekend. Maybe I'll find a video clip and include it in future hobby thread content... Posted by: TRex - tractor racing dino at September 12, 2026 07:23 PM (XfIK1) 109
Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here, going along with the theme, and adding your own hobbying projects. Shall we do it again next week with a new theme?
You're welcome to hang here for a while, but don't forget about Club ONT later. Posted by: TRex - agricultural dino at September 12, 2026 07:25 PM (XfIK1) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 07:26 PM (gpvQO) 111
Blaster acres is 120 acres. Need moar power. But a 25hp tractor is good for utility.
I saw a Porsche tractor for sale for like $60k. It looks cool but you wouldn't be able to use it. Too valuable. Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2026 07:27 PM (NlEaG) 112
One thing I recommend for a tractor is some forks. You will go around picking stuff up just because you can.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:28 PM (MWfyi) 113
John Deere 'A' with a hand clutch, tricycle front end, and 4 row front mount cultivator. Got a big old umbrella and a gallon jug of ice water, two baloney sammiches, and a pouch of Red Man chewing tobacco. Let's get some grass and weeds out of this cotton!
Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 07:29 PM (LHPAg) 114
Going to see a drone show in a bit
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 05:57 PM (qEb4U) You do realize that they are just waiting for the AI command to attack right? The SWARMs will rule! Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2026 07:30 PM (2WIwB) 115
In our case, a physically bigger tractor would not fit between the tree rows in a lot of places.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:30 PM (MWfyi) 116
I saw a Porsche tractor for sale for like $60k. It looks cool but you wouldn't be able to use it. Too valuable.
Posted by: blaster at September 12, 2026 07:27 PM *** Prices spiked 10-15 years ago when collectors decided all of a sudden that they were cool. Posted by: TRex - two cylinder dino at September 12, 2026 07:31 PM (XfIK1) 117
We make better tractor. And more too.
Posted by: Ministry of Defense Plant No. 12 named for Comrade Lenin at September 12, 2026 07:31 PM (RIvkX) 118
A very young Diogenes was almost killed on a tractor. Those things are dangerous.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2026 07:32 PM (2WIwB) 119
I just want to say how much my husband would have loved this thread. All this guy talk. How he would have loved it.
Posted by: Wenda at September 12, 2026 07:32 PM (uSgX5) 120
Blaster, you might want to check out the bigger TYM tractors. I'm pretty happy with mine. Not to say I'm not completely satisfied with Kubota except for the price.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:34 PM (MWfyi) 121
Couple hundred people waiting fot this to start
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 07:36 PM (QLHQ2) Posted by: RI Red at September 12, 2026 07:36 PM (w30OO) 123
We make better tractor. And more too.
Posted by: Ministry of Defense Plant No. 12 named for Comrade Lenin at September 12, 2026 *** New tractor is this month's centerfold in Plavbov magazine! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 07:37 PM (wzUl9) 124
John Deere tractor works in Waterloo made tank transmissions during WWII, a shitload of them, among other things.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 07:37 PM (hefYs) 125
TRex, I really enjoyed this thread. Maybe you could tell.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 07:37 PM (IFwjj) 126
there are so many vintage tractors around here I just can't even; many still in use. there's a certain school of thought that just has a tractor for each function, leave it hooked up as a forklift or mower or whatever, instead of mounting and dismounting different tools all the time.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 12, 2026 07:38 PM (VyBeY) 127
125 TRex, I really enjoyed this thread. Maybe you could tell.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 07:37 PM *** Excellent! Better than movies, right? Posted by: TRex - tank commander dino at September 12, 2026 07:38 PM (XfIK1) 128
122 Hey, Dino!
No tractor, just a JD L 120 garden type. But it’s still green. Posted by: RI Red at September 12, 2026 07:36 PM *** That qualifies. Approved. Posted by: TRex - tractor judge dino at September 12, 2026 07:39 PM (XfIK1) 129
John Deere has created videos for children showing realistic (not cartoonish) farming and construction machinery which our grandsons enjoy ... These can be seen by visiting YouTube-dot-com and typing "John Deere Kids" into the Search Field.
Posted by: Kathy at September 12, 2026 07:41 PM (MOK4W) 130
"there's a certain school of thought that just has a tractor for each function, leave it hooked up as a forklift or mower or whatever, instead of mounting and dismounting different tools all the time.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez" Is that wrong? Nobody told me that was wrong. The forks on the TYM are really easy to change though, only takes a minute. Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:42 PM (MWfyi) 131
Not going to get into the movie thing. Got in trouble the last time.
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 07:42 PM (IFwjj) 132
Maybe the thread will be about tractor movies.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:43 PM (MWfyi) 133
That qualifies. Approved.
Posted by: TRex - tractor judge dino at September 12, 2026 07:39 PM (XfIK1) And I had the club buy me a nice 54” deck JD Zero turn mower. I can do the entire range in under 5 hours. Used to take me over 10. Go, John Deere! Posted by: RI Red at September 12, 2026 07:45 PM (w30OO) 134
Plowed a lot of corn when I worked summers for a farmer. Don't recall what tractors he had but he was frugal, as were/are most farmers.
Posted by: Javems at September 12, 2026 07:45 PM (zFsEm) 135
Who above wants to get a Ford 8 N? They are pretty nice little tractors. What do you plan to do with it?
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 07:45 PM (IFwjj) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 07:45 PM (gpvQO) 137
The front loader is surprisingly easy to take off the Kubota but I don't anymore because why bother. When I used it for regular mowing it got in the way, but a ZTR fixed that.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:46 PM (MWfyi) 138
Hey Red do you have my email? If not ask CBD.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 07:46 PM (viF8m) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 07:47 PM (gpvQO) 140
The Brooks Steam-up at Powerland Heritage Park is the go to for old farm and logging equipment and steam engines.
It used to be just a bunch of guys with their own steam engines in a field outside of Brooks, Oregon, and now it has museums, a steam powered sawmill and an electric railroad. https://www.antiquepowerland.com/ Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 07:48 PM (rbvCR) 141
I'd like an 8N and have looked at couple. They don't really do what I need from a tractor though.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 07:48 PM (MWfyi) 142
138 Hey Red do you have my email? If not ask CBD.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 07:46 PM (viF8m) JS, I know I had it but it might have been lost in the ether. I’ll check. If not, CBD. Posted by: RI Red at September 12, 2026 07:48 PM (w30OO) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 07:51 PM (gpvQO) 144
We're back from Chik-Fil-A, $17 poorer but reasonably well fed. We've got several movies on DVD: Forbidden Planet, the original Thirty-Nine Steps, and then there's The Fly from '58 on Svengoolie.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 07:54 PM (wzUl9) 145
Guessing nl movie thread tonight
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 07:56 PM (QLHQ2) 146
Eromero equipment very diverse 50s through 80s, Ford, JD, IH, MF, AC. From little to large, loved all of them.
Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 07:58 PM (LHPAg) 147
Are you upset because you can't post new movie marque in all caps?
Posted by: Ronster at September 12, 2026 07:59 PM (IFwjj) 148
I'm surprised Mr. Cream Jeans, the weasel isn't all over this thread. Have a cigar!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at September 12, 2026 08:00 PM (5C90x) 149
Be nice. No need to poke at others among the Horde.
Posted by: TRex - life guard dino at September 12, 2026 08:01 PM (XfIK1) 150
Who can name a movie with a tractor and the model of the tractor?
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:04 PM (MWfyi) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2026 08:04 PM (Cqx++) 152
Who can name a movie with a tractor and the model of the tractor?
Posted by: fd at September 12 ---- Killdozer Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 08:06 PM (kpS4V) 153
Who can name a movie with a tractor and the model of the tractor?
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 *** There was the "tractor chicken" scene in Footloose, but I have no idea what the models were. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 08:06 PM (wzUl9) 154
Oh that's funny.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:07 PM (MWfyi) 155
Timor's Tractor
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:08 PM (MWfyi) Posted by: huerfano at September 12, 2026 08:09 PM (2Xqig) 157
o gosh, never said I thought it was wrong. far from it!
makes a lot of sense to me, who needs to spend an hour jockeying around a couple of half ton attachments, only to play lather-rinse-repeat over&over again? you just need a bigger machine shed! Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 12, 2026 08:17 PM (VyBeY) 158
You know who knows an awful lot about John Deere tractors, and the care and feeding of their batteries in particular?
AoSHQ CoB Weasel! Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 12, 2026 08:21 PM (0sNs1) Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:21 PM (MWfyi) Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 08:23 PM (viF8m) 161
I'm watching "The Fly". No tractors in this movie so far.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:24 PM (MWfyi) 162
So in this movie a woman killed her husband with a hydraulic press and they think she might be a little crazy.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:27 PM (MWfyi) 163
Looks androgynous.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:27 PM (gpvQO) 164
I'm watching "The Fly". No tractors in this movie so far.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 08:24 PM (MWfyi) ---- I'm watching a classic Doctor Who episode: The Talons of Wang-Chiang. No tractors, but there are ROUS's.... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2026 08:28 PM (FZ29D) 165
162 So in this movie a woman killed her husband with a hydraulic press and they think she might be a little crazy.
Posted by: fd --- Absolutely, set her free. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:29 PM (gpvQO) 166
ain't it the truth, ain't it the truth!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 12, 2026 08:30 PM (VyBeY) 167
The 20th Century TV show "Green Acres" had a tractor they called a Hoyt Clagwell. Hoyt Clagwell" is not a real tractor manufacturer, just a name made up for the show.
The tractor used on the show was actually a 1918 Fordson Model F tractor. Fordson was Henry Ford's first venture into tractor manufacturing, and this was the first mass-produced tractor, produced from 1917 to 1928. It was also the most popular tractor at the time, it's market share was estimated to be 90% at the time. Posted by: Wesley Crusher at September 12, 2026 08:31 PM (0sNs1) 168
C14 News | EN@c14english
Iraq is rushing to contain a major regional crisis after confirming that a drone attack shutting down a vital Saudi Arabian oil pipeline originated from Iraqi territory. Baghdad has fired a military commander and shut Iranian border crossings to launch an investigation. With the wider Iran-U.S. war already destabilizing regional trade, Baghdad faces massive pressure to disarm local Iran-backed militias before a Sept 30 deadline - but Iran-backed Shia terror groups are refusing to comply. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:31 PM (gpvQO) 169
Shut up, Wesley.
Posted by: Mr Haney at September 12, 2026 08:34 PM (MWfyi) 170
@c14english
Iran prepares to exit the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and test a nuclear bomb. MP Haji-Deligani announced a triple-urgency bill is ready, adding: "We should conduct the necessary tests for a nuclear weapon as soon as possible. --- Nothing, no thing, is being reported from CENTCOM. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 08:36 PM (gpvQO) 171
Y kid loves the Chik Fil A chicken and waffle sandwich.
We had lawn mowers growing up and a hoe for the garden. Posted by: Accomack at September 12, 2026 08:38 PM (T8bqm) 172
Fordson was Henry Ford's first venture into tractor manufacturing, and this was the first mass-produced tractor, produced from 1917 to 1928. It was also the most popular tractor at the time, it's market share was estimated to be 90% at the time.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at September 12, 2026 08:31 PM (0sNs1) Grandpa sold Fords in Olympia prior to 1930 and he apparently hated the Fordsons because Ford would push them on the dealership, and the dealership had to discount them so heavily to move them, that it would eat into the profit on the automobile sales. He didn't think very highly of Henry Ford, either. Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 08:38 PM (rbvCR) 173
Nood up. G'nite all!
Posted by: Nazdar at September 12, 2026 08:40 PM (NcvvS) 174
Clarkson’s Lamborghini was a lemon.
Posted by: Accomack at September 12, 2026 08:42 PM (T8bqm) 175
John Deere tractor works in Waterloo made tank transmissions during WWII, a shitload of them, among other things.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 07:37 PM (hefYs) Good thing the tankers had the right to repair. Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 08:43 PM (TlKpx) 176
There is an excellent vintage tractor and truck museum in Irricana, Alberta, called Pioneer Acres. I was there just a week ago. They have a couple of those "motorized scythes" in a shed there. I would describe them as "sickle-bar mowers". They have steam tractors, Rumely Oilpulls, old Deeres, and just about anything else that ever pulled a plow or powered a thrashing machine. I spent a few minutes watching a blacksmith forge a piece of steel on a coal-fired forge.
I have one tractor to my name, and it would easily qualify as an antique. It is a 1960-something International B414D, meaning it is Diesel. Has PTO, 3-point hitch, power steering, and a 1500 pound loader on the front. It is my workhorse. Still runs like a pup. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 08:48 PM (1z8ji) 177
Used to have a picture of grandpa and his enormous steam powered tractor. Imperial Valley CA.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2026 08:59 PM (wCk3Y) 178
@DC_Draino
All this Democrat racism against the hero juror reminds me of when a Democrat woman in a gorilla mask threw eggs at Larry Elder b/c he was a black man running for CA Governor as a Republican. Mainstream media ignored it. They don’t want people knowing who the real racists are --- Didn't know that. Elder's a nice guy. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 13, 2026 01:42 AM (gpvQO) Ace of Spades Pet Thread, September 12![]() Courtesy Donald Sensing
Would you dare employ a monkey?
I lost my pup Bruno last Tuesday to Lymphoma. It had been in remission but came back over a few days and just overwhelmed him. He's buried down by the woods, where he loved to run. I miss you buddy, and your wagging tail thumping against the cabinets in the shop.Oh, no. So sorry that you have lost Bruno. What a wonderful boy. ![]() This is the good Little Mama who brought her four kittens to our house and demanded that we feed them. She splits her time between our house and some unknown locale. She has been spayed and her boys have all been neutered now. K.T.
Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today. If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:Until next Saturday, have a great week! If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, September 5 I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Yay! Pets!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2026 03:45 PM (FZ29D) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 03:46 PM (eRlcH) 3
Yes, yay pets!
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at September 12, 2026 03:47 PM (wxsGM) 4
Yay, Pet Thread!
Thank you, K.T., for something pleasant to think about today. And my sympathies, fd, on your loss of Bruno. Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at September 12, 2026 03:47 PM (R3yzU) 5
Meow...
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at September 12, 2026 03:49 PM (sAmhv) 6
Sorry for your loss fd. Bruno looks like he was a real sweetie.
Posted by: Tuna at September 12, 2026 03:49 PM (lJ0H4) 7
Saw trumpeter swans on the lake near the house this week. Means they are headed south, but they usually hang out here until hard frost. The sandhill cranes came through a couple of weeks ago, also headed south. Another month or so and we can put up the bird feeders for the winter. If we put them up before then, the damned bears get into them which sorta defeats the purpose.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 03:50 PM (Ntshk) 8
barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at September 12, 2026 03:47 PM
Posted the Gardening for Apples thread late today. If you want something pleasant to read, it's not too late, even to comment! Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 03:53 PM (1RGZ5) 9
Afternoon, pet folken,
Piper, in the pic, Kovu looks very much like my Stirling. I don't know what you mean about "wilted" ears, though; they look pretty much normal. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 03:55 PM (wzUl9) 10
If we put them up before then, the damned bears get into them which sorta defeats the purpose.
Posted by: tcn in AK Even in Western PA, bears enjoy a good feast from a bird feeder. My friend, who lives in the burbs of Sharon, PA, had a black bear casually feeding from her bird feeder. A fairly populated area but deep woods aren't too far away. Bear didn't care. It was hungry. Anyway, it wandered off and my friends had to bear proof a bird feeder. Not sure what they did to do it. Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at September 12, 2026 03:57 PM (sAmhv) 11
That good Little Mama whacked DH on the shin when she showed up for food for her babies. When he came out to feed her, there were two kitten sitting on each of her sides.
Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 03:58 PM (1RGZ5) 12
Woof
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2026 03:59 PM (9Qx17) 13
Happy Caturday everyone
All but done at a new Animal Hospital job, hope they can help lots of pets when they open. Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 04:01 PM (Ia/+0) 14
I learned a valuable lesson about unconditional love this week.
I chose NOT to sell my cats' organs as aphrodisiacs on the Chinese black market after they knocked my Lego Star Destroyer off the bookshelf in my library. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2026 04:02 PM (FZ29D) 15
Sorry about Bruno, fd. He looks like a very nice dog.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 12, 2026 04:03 PM (JrHfD) 16
That good Little Mama whacked DH on the shin when she showed up for food for her babies. When he came out to feed her, there were two kitten sitting on each of her sides.
Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 *** KT, you mean she clawed at him -- drew blood? If a strange cat did that to me, she wouldn't get any food, that's for sure. I have a second cat visiting my door. This is a brownish-grey male tabby with white, about 50-50, a feral who hangs around with the non-feral shorthair gray, "Alfred," who visits me from time to time. This new boy won't come close, but actually cries for food just as Alfred does. I tell Linda, "If he's gonna visit at a distance, I'll feed him at a distance. Just throw him a handful of dry food!" Just kidding. I put out a scoop of Iams dry food for them in a plastic bowl. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:05 PM (wzUl9) 17
Regarding that meme of the cats spying on their humans: You'd think, after some 8000 years of cats living with and observing humans, they'd have reported everything necessary for the Great Take-Over.
Well, maybe reporting wasn't so easy back then. Hard for a cat to send a message by carrier pigeon without eating the messenger. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:08 PM (wzUl9) 18
Millard the kitten continues to make me laugh. He goes under his scratching post and not scratch, so it's like what my husband calls a "tunnel with a tail."
My friend has three cats with scratching posts in every room but the bathrooms. He enjoys the scratching post in the living room but needs others. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 12, 2026 04:08 PM (JrHfD) Posted by: goatexchange at September 12, 2026 04:09 PM (xHuLt) 20
fd, my condolences on the loss of Bruno. A Rin Tin Tin lookalike he was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:09 PM (wzUl9) 21
Monkey face is cute, but. . . so many questions about the context - where? why? who's giggling?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2026 04:11 PM (rOKnE) 22
I chose NOT to sell my cats' organs as aphrodisiacs on the Chinese black market after they knocked my Lego Star Destroyer off the bookshelf in my library.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2026 *** Chinese black market, you say? (*CRASH* as Dagny knocks over and shatters a lamp) Whereabouts can one find a dealer, pray tell? Asking for a friend, of course. . . . Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:11 PM (wzUl9) 23
Very sorry about the loss of your boy, fd.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2026 04:12 PM (viF8m) 24
Condolences, fd!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2026 04:12 PM (rOKnE) 25
What kind of swallow is that in the pic, that travels 8000 miles to southern Africa on a regular basis? (I'm guessing "swallow" based on the tail. We call men's format coats "swallowtail" coats for a reason.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:13 PM (wzUl9) 26
The monkey looks as if the smell of the beans as he breaks each one is unpleasant, or as if he has arthritis in his paws and it hurts him to snap each one.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:15 PM (wzUl9) 27
Losing a pet is hard to take.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 04:15 PM (Ia/+0) 28
Monkey face is cute, but. . . so many questions about the context - where? why? who's giggling?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2026 *** The monkey's mate? "Another bowl, Seymour, and then maybe I'll let you watch Monkey Business with the Marx Brothers. Snap to it!" Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:16 PM (wzUl9) Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2026 04:25 PM (FZ29D) 30
Afternoon all
fd, so sorry that you had to say goodbye to Bruno. Such a handsome boy. Always so tough, we know. Posted by: Pony Tail at September 12, 2026 04:28 PM (v8m9Y) 31
What kind of swallow is that in the pic, that travels 8000 miles to southern Africa on a regular basis?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:13 PM (wzUl9 Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 12, 2026 04:29 PM (nbLIj) 32
1 What kind of swallow is that in the pic, that travels 8000 miles to southern Africa on a regular basis?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:13 PM (wzUl9 Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 12, 2026 04:29 PM (nbLIj) The unladen kind, of course.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 12, 2026 04:29 PM (nbLIj) 33
I'm so sorry about Bruno. Beautiful dog.
And such pretty cats. Snowflake comes in and sleeps with Ralphy and I at night on the chair. She used to get up with me around 4 am and want to go outside. Lately though she waits until I've completed another REM cycle and am just out of sleep and she'll jump on the bed and meow. That's pretty remarkable. I've been feeding her and her outdoor Mom Starry. My friends family came home and I asked the kids how Starry looks. She's not fat by any means. But you wouldn't think she's homeless. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 12, 2026 04:32 PM (Sco7b) 34
I often write about our goodly gal Daisy the Malinois. Our old black kitty, not so much to write about.
Ony (short for "Onyxia") was bestowed upon us by our son Prod (short for "Prodigal") when he left college in 2009, when she was maybe three years old. We had many cats then, and Ony has outlived them all. She has always been a pretty hearty housecat. Tolerates the dogs, demands food on time, lets us know when the litter box needs cleaning. However, in recent weeks, she seems to have started showing her age. She scrambles, rather than jumps, up on the bed. Moves slowly and cautiously — we think she may be losing her sight She doesn't really leave the bedroom now. Rarely comes out to get in my lap at the desk. Still likes to sleep on the bed between us. She started peeing in inappropriate places, so we moved her litter box from the bathroom to the bedroom, next to the cat tree and her food, and that seems to have worked. Other than that, she mostly just seems to be getting a little slower, a little weaker. Of course, we hope she'll hang in there for a long time to come, but, well, just giving her plenty of hugs and scritches.🐈⬛🥺 Posted by: mindful webworker - Ony, the Queen of the Critters here at September 12, 2026 04:38 PM (k0Y0k) 35
What kind of swallow is that in the pic, that travels 8000 miles to southern Africa on a regular basis? (I'm guessing "swallow" based on the tail. We call men's format coats "swallowtail" coats for a reason.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:13 PM (wzUl9) Is it an African swallow or a European swallow? Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 04:38 PM (TlKpx) 36
Stateless, Stirling has a habit of waking me by jumping over me and kicking me as he goes -- at 3:45 am. He only started this about a year ago, and he doesn't do it every morning. But when he does, I glance blearily at my watch and it's between 3:40 and 3:50 every time.
I'm glad he didn't do this 45-60 minutes before my alarm when I was working! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:39 PM (wzUl9) 37
Mindful, so Ony is about twenty? I've never had a cat who lived that long, only Arizona the red tabby part-Coon who made it to 16.5. And he had health issues in his last two years. Clearly Ony is going for a record.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:43 PM (wzUl9) 38
Stirling has a habit of waking me by jumping over me and kicking me as he goes -- at 3:45 am. He only started this about a year ago, and he doesn't do it every morning. But when he does, I glance blearily at my watch and it's between 3:40 and 3:50 every time.
---- Clearly Stirling and Lily are texting each other to synchronize their attacks. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 04:43 PM (kpS4V) 39
Hey guys!
Fd, so sorry for the loss of your Bruno. Sending hugs your way. KT, so glad mom and kittens are fixed. Piper, Kovu is beautiful. I won't be posting our cat blog update today. I'm going to assume that anyone who has been following or donated the last 2yrs+ can already read the posts. :-) I have been approved for SSI, so thankfully I can take some of the bill burden off my sister. I can now also apply for disability homestead deduction. Posted by: Joyenz at September 12, 2026 04:45 PM (2F0/Y) 40
36 Stateless, Stirling has a habit of waking me by jumping over me and kicking me as he goes -- at 3:45 am. He only started this about a year ago, and he doesn't do it every morning. But when he does, I glance blearily at my watch and it's between 3:40 and 3:50 every time.
I'm glad he didn't do this 45-60 minutes before my alarm when I was working! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:39 PM (wzUl9) That's when I put the cats back outside. But she NEVER wakes me up now. Apparently I'm studied to an incredible degree but this works well. And I'm amazed at what goes on outside at 4am. Starry is sometimes by. Another orange cat. 4am is cat party time. Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 105 years old - puppy at heart at September 12, 2026 04:45 PM (Sco7b) 41
A couple of memes
The many names of my dog https://bit.ly/dog-many-names Memorial to the search-and-rescue dogs of 9/11/2001 https://bit.ly/rescue-dogs-9-11-memorial Read (on this blog, I think) that the 9/11 search folks thought the dogs were getting depressed at not finding folks in the rubble, so they would have folks 'hide' themselves in the rubble, so the dogs could find them. The dogs surely suffered after-effects as much as the humans - physical as well as emotional.🐕🦺❣️ Posted by: mindful webworker - good dogs at September 12, 2026 04:45 PM (k0Y0k) 42
Is it an African swallow or a European swallow?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 *** Well, assuming the swallow is traveling due south, Africa is only 5000 miles long, so the bird would be starting from somewhere in northern Europe. And the poster mentions his garage -- not something you'd find often in northern Africa -- so again I think Europe. Maybe not, though. Qwant's AI says the distance from NYC to southern Africa is about 8000 miles, so maybe the birds go southeast? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 04:50 PM (wzUl9) 43
I nap 30 minutes between two cats.
Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 04:53 PM (LHPAg) 44
Clearly Ony is going for a record.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius Yes. Never had a cat get that old. Obviously, after so many years, she's deeply entrenched in our lives and hearts, and irreplaceable. That failed police pup sure looks like a young version of our Daisy. We never had her as that young and when I see Malinois pups, I get a little sad we didn't. Never had to house-train her, though. Great pic of Bruno. GS and Malinois, wonderful (and closely related) breeds. Posted by: mindful webworker - skritches all around at September 12, 2026 04:54 PM (k0Y0k) 45
I like the many names for your dog, mww. And I appreciated the statues for the rescue dogs. Here is an article about some of the rescue dogs for 9/11:
https://tinyurl.com/2ezrjjnj Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 12, 2026 04:55 PM (JrHfD) 46
I miss you buddy, and your wagging tail thumping against the cabinets in the shop. - fd A guy at work brought his Basset hound to work once. The dog was slamming his tail againt a metal filing cabinet. BAM BAM BAM! I thought it would be painful but I guess not. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2026 05:00 PM (Cqx++) 47
There was a pale gray tabby named "Cocoa" for adoption at a local Petco this morning, where we stopped after World Market just to see what was new. She (I assume "she") is bigger than a kitten but not an adult quite yet. The sticker said that she'd prefer a home with large dogs or other cats to which she could be introduced gradually. "Not a fan of small dogs."
Most Petco stores, not that long ago, used to have four to eight cats available for adoption on a Saturday morning. Now it's unusual to see even one. I wonder why? Shelters are still going; you'd think they'd ship a few over to catch a family's attention as often as they could. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:00 PM (wzUl9) 48
https://bit.ly/dog-many-names
*** The many names of my cats: Stirling: also Duke of Vicksburg, Big Black, Black Thug, Tiny Jaguar, You Battleship, What Are You Doing?!, Dammit, Stop That Dagny: also Dagnetta, La Siberienne, Gray Girl, Puffball, Stubby Tail, Little Gray; and she shares What Are You Doing?!, Dammit, and Stop That with Stirling Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:05 PM (wzUl9) 49
Can't "bear proof" a bird feeder really. Unless it's "bird proof" too.
Near as I've been able to figure out, bears must associate pain with humans. Their natural inclination is to run at top speed, at first sight of a human. If they determine the worst that can happen is a little yelling, or maybe somebody banging pots and pans, then they don't GAF and will be nothing but trouble. Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 05:05 PM (/ijqt) 50
Sorry for your loss fd. Bruno was a handsome boy.
Posted by: Biergood at September 12, 2026 05:05 PM (PwgSL) 51
Cocoa was a pretty cat for a shorthair. I suggested to Linda she adopt her. "You need your own cat."
Ha. She has my two to play with and fuss over; what does she need with her own? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:08 PM (wzUl9) 52
Condolences for Bruno, fd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 05:09 PM (zZu0s) 53
"Council of Cats": I've long imagined that in Cat Heaven there is a throne for the King or Queen, and he/she has a cabinet of ministers or favorites. Marie-Antoinette, the smart black medium-hair, believed she was cat royalty while she was on Earth. No doubt she intrigued to be be crowned in heaven, and now rules as did Queen Elizabeth I, surrounded with courtiers and court favorites.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:14 PM (wzUl9) 54
Thank you so much, everyone.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 05:19 PM (MWfyi) 55
Cat's can be thwarted by a spray bottle and a laser pointer.
They can never take over the world. Penguins on the other hand..... Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 12, 2026 05:21 PM (XV/Pl) 56
The many, many names of my current dogs:
Ruby, Ruby-boober, Sugar Baby, Sweet Pea, Boober-oo. Piper, Piper you idiot, Get Off, Settle!, Doofus, Dork, Knucklehead, Dingbat, Buffalo, Knock that crap off! [well, you get the idea] I think the names are ever-evolving. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 05:23 PM (Ntshk) 57
One of our adopted cats, "Mr. Rubs" is, I think, on his final journey with us. He's been on our porch all spring and summer, only disappearing when it storms or visitors come. He still comes inside to get brushed (something I worked with him on last year, and it's his favorite thing) and periodically to see what's what.
But he's totally uninterested in stalking the property like he used to. He's 8 years old... so he's getting up there. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 05:23 PM (2Cry5) 58
This is the first time in over 30 years that there is no dog around here. Usually there is some overlap so the older dog teaches the younger dog(s) how to behave and go on walks.
Posted by: fd at September 12, 2026 05:24 PM (MWfyi) 59
One of my coworkers lost his cat not that long ago (she died...about 15 years old, I think).
Almost like clockwork, there are three or four stray cats hanging out around his house now. I suspect he'll be a cat owner again before too long. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2026 05:25 PM (FZ29D) 60
Reef is pretty much: Reef, Psychodog, Aja-Reef!, and What the fuck?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 12, 2026 05:27 PM (zZu0s) 61
Bruno looked like a very good dog. Stately.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 05:27 PM (RIvkX) 62
One of my coworkers lost his cat not that long ago (she died...about 15 years old, I think).
Almost like clockwork, there are three or four stray cats hanging out around his house now. I suspect he'll be a cat owner again before too long. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 12, 2026 *** When Arizona passed, I had Marie-Antoinette right there. When Oreo passed, I had Tatiana Romanova. After her there was a short gap, then came Chekov and Wolf; and when Wolf passed, Chekov was here. I let almost three months go by after Chekov's passing before even consdiering another cat -- the longest I've gone, I think. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:30 PM (wzUl9) 63
Also, we do not exist.
/cleaning each other's ears Posted by: Council of Cats at September 12, 2026 05:31 PM (RIvkX) 64
The Cat Distribution System is very efficient
Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 05:32 PM (/ijqt) 65
Hobby thread is nood.
Posted by: Tuna at September 12, 2026 05:34 PM (lJ0H4) 66
I calculated the other day that 80% of my life, from age twelve to now, has been spent in the company of cats. There was that first twelve years, then two years when Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 and I lived in a *strictly* pet-free apartment, and the three months between the passing of Chekov and the advent of Stirling. Aside from those periods, I've always lived with a cat.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:35 PM (wzUl9) 67
Noodus hobbyana -- farm tractors!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 12, 2026 05:36 PM (wzUl9) 68
That monkey works for Big Green Bean - you can see he doesn't cut off the stems, that bastard.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 12, 2026 06:50 PM (w6EFb) Posted by: what the cat drug in at September 12, 2026 07:15 PM (jrgJz) 70
I've watched some big Oliver diesels hunker down in tractor pull contests. Impressive.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2026 07:34 PM (XeU6L) 71
The topic istimely, in that I've been considering some wheel weights formy lawn tractor. Portions of the yard are steepish, and the machine occasionally loses traction. This, of course, happens on one side since it has an open differential.
I've considered adding individually actuated disk brakes to the axels, which might help, but wheel weights seem a reasonable and simpler choice. It has occured to me that since my problem is slopes, that wheel weights have some drawbacks. One of which is that as the slope increases the weights become less effective, and more of a burden. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2026 07:45 PM (XeU6L) Special Garden and Orchard Thread - Apples!![]() Our stories need catharsis (so said Aristotle), and if your conclusion is weak, it’s tempting to deflect by offering… “don’t you see, it’s about the journey?” But certainly there are other aspects of life where the journey is –if not the point— as acceptable as the destination. Do I need to reach the summit of a mountain to enjoy a hike? Might it be the same with gardening? Do we need the fruit or the flower to experience a sense of satisfaction? Perhaps the process can bring as much joy as the terminus. I’m not trying to run interference for failure. In fact, last year, I posted on AoS about my ongoing battle with birds, which had, for years, poached my annual blueberry crop. That essay was titled “The Great Blueberry Bush Battle.” A quick recap: the blueberry bushes at my house have, for the last ten seasons, yielded copious and healthy fruit. The only problem became preventing birds from stealing the berries, which happened until 2025 when I discovered thule netting (Photo 2; date taken 8-2-26) This style of mesh net acts like a Ziploc bag, encasing the bush in a net that no bird can penetrate. ![]() So, after failing for a number of years to defeat avian pests, I found my game changer in 2025, and 2026 has been just as successful. ![]() “The Great Blueberry Bush Battle” has been a fun journey, but it was always the goal to get good fruit. I did that, and boy has the catharsis flowed. Unfortunately, the scrum with nature when it comes to my Empire apple trees has mostly gone against me. Unlike blueberries, there seem to be more factors that can affect a good apple crop. Rough winters, spring conditions, disease, and other unknowns that are out of my hands make getting good apples anyone’s guess. ![]() I am certain I could do better if I put in orchard-level effort or used industrial-strength sprays, but that would entail hiring someone and I want this project all to myself. So, despite my instincts not to fall back on “it’s about the journey,” I’ve begun to lean into the phrase. But should I? *** To help you opine, allow me to provide the history of the trees. The blueberry bushes were planted when I bought and redid this house in 2009-2010. ![]() ![]() In the succeeding years, there was little bounty. The trees grew and did produce fruit each season, but the apples were always spotted or bruised, and by harvest time the toy car was not needed. I didn’t do much to tend them until— because of Covid fascists—I had to hang around the house in the summer of 2020. I began to take more interest in my fruit trees at this time, but taking an interest and producing a satisfying result did not go hand in glove. It had been fairly common for the tree to blossom in May, which always portended fruit, but often, as mentioned, the apples would never survive in any kind of healthy way. ![]() For better results, I consulted landscape architects, my lawn and garden service team, the internet of course, and neighbors who also have fruit trees. Naturally, I received a lot of advice. Neem oil to ward off insects. Other sprays to combat disease. Reflective tape to deter birds. Trimming in winter months only. Unfortunately, nothing seemed to work. Then, in the summer of 2023, something amazing occurred. I did nothing special to prepare for this year, but the trees produced more fruit than I could imagine. The limbs were so heavy with apples I had to tie up splitting branches. I estimate each tree produced 1,000 apples. Plenty of them were poached by animals or blemished, but there was so much that even a ten percent haul meant 200 edible apples. The toy car was long gone, but it would not have been able to handle the payload. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The trees themselves have continued to grow and always appear healthy, but bearing fruit like those two great years (2014 and 2023) seems an impossibility now. In the succeeding years, there was little bounty. The trees grew and did produce fruit each season, but the apples were always spotted or bruised, and by harvest time the toy car was not needed. The trees themselves have continued to grow and always appear healthy, but bearing fruit like those two great years (2014 and 2023) seems an impossibility now. My own very non-scientific theory is the trees have become too big. They were much larger in 2023 than in 2014, so that may disprove my theory, but it’s hard to gainsay they are probably twice as big as when planted. That is, there is too much wood. The branches shoot to the sky and criss-cross each other at every chance. I have trimmed each year, but they grow back quickly. ![]() ![]() But now that this season is effectively over, I’m going to get much more aggressive with trimming and thinning than I have before. I’ve spent the last couple of weeks taking out branches, and the results are much more ‘airy’ trees. ![]() ![]() Even so, it would be nice to munch on an unblemished, crispy apples that come from my trees. Check in with me the next season, and I’ll tell you where I stand on journeys and destinations. Thanks, LEX! What a project! You have kept good records, too. Time for discussion! Do you grow apples? Do you want to? How about pears? If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is: ktinthegarden at g mail dot com Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker. I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Happy Caturday everyone
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 02:13 PM (Ia/+0) 2
Mentioned before we sem to have a outside rabbit than lives within feet of the house. Ttying not to frightening her we think its a female
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 02:17 PM (Ia/+0) 3
Bluebird at the mealworm feeder right now.
Posted by: Ernst Rohm at September 12, 2026 02:19 PM (RIvkX) 4
Stone fruits are pruned when in bloom or leaf to discourage too much growth at cutting points. I imagine it's the same for other deciduous trees. Don't prune in fireblight season.
Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 02:23 PM (1RGZ5) Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 02:25 PM (RIvkX) 6
When all of us neighborhood kids were growing up in our residential neighborhood there was still a fairly large (for little kids) vacant lot owned by a certain Mr. Hackett (rumored to shoot at kids with a shotgun loaded with rock salt). It was at one time pasture or farm ground, and overgrown. It had a number of wild apple trees, and it had the best tasting green apples ever. I didn't care for them ripe, they seemed mealy and not crisp the way I thought an apple ought to be. They never turned solid red.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 02:26 PM (/ijqt) 7
I am tending to a fig tree planted this year. I've been fighting the fact that I have grown into an old, Italian man for quite some time now but, alas, the proof to the contrary is doing well right in my own back yard.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 12, 2026 02:30 PM (m4Pfq) 8
Just trying to keep the losses down, epically hot and dry around here.
Posted by: Miflin at September 12, 2026 02:30 PM (aA6YN) 9
I am wondering if Lex's neighbor's crabapple pollinates his apples.
Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 02:32 PM (1RGZ5) 10
I would love to eat an apple, even that green one, but alas, I has only 10 teefs.
Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 02:34 PM (LHPAg) 11
Lex, that story was an emotional rollercoaster! I feel your pain: growing up, we had a beautiful apple tree that threw off tons of tart green apples, but they were to often twisted and wormy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 02:43 PM (kpS4V) 12
Speaking as a person with little actual knowledge of the problem, those trees need to be way thinned out so there is room for sunlight, and later, apples. Now.
Posted by: From about That Time at September 12, 2026 02:45 PM (sl73Y) 13
often twisted and wormy.
Used to date her. Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2026 02:45 PM (t59Wi) 14
My vegetable garden is definitely winding down for the season, although the hot peppers are still going great guns and the zucchini plant is punching above its weight.
I won't bother to plant corn next year. I got a few slender ears of pretty blue corn, which was fun to monitor but kind of a waste of space. Ditto the sunflowers, although the birds and bees loved them. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 02:47 PM (kpS4V) 15
"the trees produced more fruit than I could imagine"
What a great problem to have. Great post, KT! Posted by: 40 Miles North at September 12, 2026 02:48 PM (96qvc) 16
And no more cherry tomatoes! There's such a thing as being too prolific, guys.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 02:49 PM (kpS4V) 17
Fruit trees and plants are my bailiwick. I worked in a large (and varied) orchard for four years in my youth to put money away for college. I learned how to get stung by bees, a bit of Spanish, and lots about growing healthy market acceptable fruit (apples, peaches, pears, berries, grapes, kiwi, you name it).
First off, your apple trees that produced beyond expectations one year, and then dropped off. That's common. It's called alternative bearing, or biennial bearing. They mean the same thing. Essentially, your tree exhausted itself on a good year or two and has to recover to produce again. Not unusual. And, orchards will combat this by pulling excess fruit off during development to assure it doesn't overload the tree's resources. Pruning in early winter is a necessity. You want a flat top to your tree, and solid limbs, not "springers". Insecticide is basically to assure a blemish free apple...nothing more. It's a pain, but if you want the good, perfect fruit it is required. I grow Winesap, Red Delicious, Granny Smith, Yellow Delicious and a couple Japanese apples I can pronounce. I eat a bunch, the rest are for the deer (who can smell them miles away). Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 02:51 PM (dIske) 18
Today I picked and ate the first fig from my Beer's Black container tree. It was tasty and there are more figs maturing on the branches. It needs repotting but I plan to wait until after I pick the rest of the figs. I have a nice clay pot for its new home.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at September 12, 2026 02:51 PM (OlzlW) 19
I've heard apple trees naturally set more fruit on the more horizontal branches. The skinny branches (water sprouts) that grow straight up just sap the tree's energy.
Posted by: Emmie, celebrating 250 years of God's grace at September 12, 2026 02:56 PM (OlzlW) Posted by: Mr. Hackett at September 12, 2026 02:59 PM (4Je4D) 21
I love the idea of a container fig tree! Think I'll try it next year.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2026 03:01 PM (kpS4V) 22
Oh, one other thing on apple trees, specifically. Stay away from nitrogen based fertilizer if fruit is your goal. "Nitrofert" is great if your goal is a beautiful looking tree for your front lawn, but nitrogen based will go right to the leaves first and foremost.
Posted by: Orson at September 12, 2026 03:03 PM (dIske) 23
You need the book "Grow a Little Fruit Tree". It will teach you how to prune them for a manageable size. And, I have pruned apple trees in a commercial orchard, Granny Smiths grown on wires and kept reachable on a 12' ladder. If you want fruit, you have to prune and you thin the apples when they first set. For manageable trees, you prune in the summer, which discourages growth. Amazon carries the book.
My little trees are trying to recover from a grasshopper attack. I used neem oil. I also used a copper fungicide for rust. Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2026 03:04 PM (bkuEU) 24
How's your bee population? Here we have very nice native bees like mason bees. They only come out when the fruit trees flower, have a pretty short life but a busy one
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 12, 2026 03:05 PM (63pwK) 25
I love the photos and story!
I second what Orson wrote about pulling off excess fruit and winter-pruning. I'm planning to prune the arbor vita this coming winter. They are filling out nicely. In a couple more years, I hope they'll be a proper privacy fence. Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 12, 2026 03:06 PM (ao+in) 26
There are two wild apple trees next to each other right off my favorite hiking trail. Can always grab 3 or 4 with no wormholes. They're not pretty, but they're all-natural.
Posted by: Delurker at September 12, 2026 03:07 PM (2Drhq) 27
And, in the battle with the grasshoppers, they have not touched a leaf on the figs. I am starting to wonder if I should put in another Chicago Hardy or two as replacements for anything that doesn't make it. No figs but the trees look good
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2026 03:09 PM (bkuEU) 28
The garden is mostly done now. We have lows in the low 40s so most everything is going dormant. I still have carrots and potatoes, and they will be good for about a week after hard frost, which can come at any time.
I need to get out and pull bean plants, and clean out the strawberry beds. The raspberries produced over 10 gallons of raspberries this year, and this after I whacked them down mostly to the ground in the spring. They just grow like weeds here. Big fruits, too, the size of a decent strawberry. Next year I think I will make raspberry wine. The greenhouse was disappointing this year. Plenty of peppers, but something killed off the cukes halfway through the season, and my tomatoes never produced, at all. Next year I'm putting in drip irrigation and getting a better handle on controlling the heat in there. I think the exhaust fan is too small for the space. Once I have a kitchen again (end of the month? maybe?) I will start putting up soups and other items for the pantry. Posted by: tcn in AK at September 12, 2026 03:46 PM (Ntshk) 29
Delurker at September 12, 2026 03:07 PM
Wonder how those apple trees got to be "wild" next to a trail? Think someone planted them? A Johnny Appleseed? Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 04:03 PM (1RGZ5) 30
Wow. Some good information in the post and the comments today!
Here, we have to choose apple varieties that tolerate low chill hours in winter and also high summer heat. Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 04:07 PM (1RGZ5) 31
Here, we have to choose apple varieties that tolerate low chill hours in winter and also high summer heat. Posted by: KT Anna and Dorsett. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 12, 2026 04:09 PM (NnhvP) 32
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Here, we have to choose apple varieties that tolerate low chill hours in winter and also high summer heat. Posted by: KT Anna and Dorsett. And Red Fuji and Granny Smith Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 04:32 PM (1RGZ5) 33
I think Anna and Dorsett require fewer chill hours than the ones I listed. Granny Smith is listed at 400 hours, and some growers also list Pink Lady at 400 chill hours.
Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 04:39 PM (1RGZ5) 34
We had 3 apple trees here-- not sure but believe they were Red Delicious, Golden Delicious, and ??? which was larger, rounder, slightly tart and had firm flesh. Never cared for "delicious" apples anyway-- too mealy and bland.
All were overgrown, dropped wormy fruit all season, and wood was diseased. Attracted unwanted wildlife, too. Got sick of raking them up each week before mowing the yard! I *finally* convinced hubby to let me have them removed. Don't miss them. Posted by: JQ at September 12, 2026 05:15 PM (rdVOm) 35
JQ at September 12, 2026 05:15 PM
Commercial Red Delicious apples are inferior to the original strain, which is not as pretty. There are some fine Golden Delicious apples, but flavor may depend on climate, with best quality where nights are cool during ripening. Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 05:29 PM (1RGZ5) 36
Managing a small orchard is one job I never wanted, and apples are one of my least favorite fruits.
Posted by: JQ at September 12, 2026 05:56 PM (rdVOm) 37
I know we are not supposed to comment on old threads but I was at a pickleball tournament all afternoon. Thanks to all who read and commented…and felt my joy and pain.
Shana Tova! -Lex Posted by: Lex at September 12, 2026 07:17 PM (y4H1r) 38
Lex at September 12, 2026 07:17 PM
It's not an old thread yet, Lex. This is Saturday, the day of specialty threads. Great piece. Thanks. Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 07:20 PM (1RGZ5) 39
From Boise area: lows 48-56 F, highs 68-88. We did inventory on our chest freezer and found 18 pounds of strawberries! - a strawberry sour beer is planned for this winter.
Green beans are done. We'll pull the last small ears of corn, then that's done. Still picking zucchini, Romas, slicing and cherry tomatoes, but they're all slowing down. When I get enough broccolini tips, I freeze those. I emptied one cloth pot of russet potatoes, got most of 5 pounds. Have not harvested any peppers yet. Still hoping for more ripe cantaloupes despite cooling temperatures. I roasted 3 roasting pans full of Romas, squeezed the pulp out of the skins, and pureed the pulp. Tomorrow we plan to can up the tomato sauce. We also steam-juiced several pounds of chokecherries, only got a little juice - will make syrup and can that too. The new bed behind the kitchen is mostly done. I planted the hyacinth bulbs around the center on Friday. Husband wants to get the final course of stone on, before I add the crocuses. Then we put the top dirt layer of dirt in, and wait until spring. Posted by: Pat* at September 12, 2026 07:35 PM (jyj2g) 40
All the advice on apple trees are what I would say, the best I can add is that you want to look at whether you are getting enough chill hours to set fruit, the Empire [from Pomiferous.com] was developed in upstate NY so it probably needs more chill if you are south of there.
You might look back to see if 2013 and 2022 were longer cold winters. Also thin out those trees this winter. You want to hollow out the center so you can "throw your hat through it" Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 07:41 PM (rbvCR) 41
as for me, my wife helped me pick a whole row of concord and Thompson grapes, and I pressed and canned 7 gallons (28 quarts) of grape juice.
I am bushed Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2026 07:43 PM (rbvCR) A War for CivilizationWell, it's been quite a week for civilization in the USA. Try scrolling through the posts from the archives here from the past week for a sampling of craziness. Mark Steyn has noticed something, too: This is my ancient column from that day, composed in the hours that followed, when very little was known. There are passages I would write differently today, and some I would not write at all, but I thought we would re-publish it as is, with the original (Spectator) illustration and headline. It was and is "a war for civilisation", but in ways I did not fully grasp until six months later, standing across the street from a Viennese maternity shop. So here we are, a generation later, when no jihadist needs to fly planes into western skyscrapers - because, in New York as in London as in other western capitals, we have handed Islam the keys to those skyscrapers. In the excerpts from the flight manifests that appeared over the next few days, I was struck by the name of Christine Hanson of Groton, Massachusetts, a two-year-old girl sitting between her parents on a doomed flight. She was last heard crying in the background during her father's telephone call to her grandparents to report that the stewardess had been stabbed. Christine would be approaching thirty now - and I cannot but feel that the intervening years have dishonoured her memory:Interesting to read what Steyn wrote 25 years ago. What has changed since then? I would suggest that we might look back even further than yesterday's 25th anniversary, and think about what we want to teach the kids (a theme here last week). Ayaan Hirsi Ali has written a piece that reminds us that, while the details had not been worked out, there were people who had plans to attack the West long before 9/11. What Mohamed Atta Was Trying to Tell UsIn April 1996, more than five years before he steered American Airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower, Mohamed Atta sat in a small Hamburg apartment and wrote his last will and testament. He was 27, an architecture student at the Technical University, the son of a Cairo lawyer, fluent in German, and living comfortably in one of the most affluent societies on earth. Nothing in his circumstances compelled him to dwell on death. Yet he gave detailed instructions for the handling of his corpse. “I don’t want any women to go to my grave at all during my funeral or on any occasion thereafter,” he wrote. He did not want a pregnant woman, or “a person who is not clean,” to come and say goodbye. The man who washed his body should wear gloves so as not to touch his genitals. He was to be wrapped in three white pieces of unadorned cloth, laid on his right side facing Mecca, and buried “next to good Muslims.” His money was to be divided “according to the Muslim religion as almighty God has asked us to do.” There is no political program and no mention of foreign policy or economic grievances in the document. There is only a young Muslim man, in a German apartment, arranging to sacrifice his life to Allah in the confidence that Allah will reward his martyrdom in the life to come. The will was witnessed by fellow believers at the al-Quds mosque, where Atta prayed in Arabic, grew his beard, and where, four years later, he would meet the men he would die with. The document is among the most neglected pieces of evidence from Sept. 11 because it contradicts the explanations of the attack that most Western commentators preferred. Atta was not poor. He was not radicalized by drone strikes that had not yet happened, nor by American support for Israel. He was not in any formal or organizational sense an “Islamist.” Rather, he had an uncompromising and militant commitment to Islam that he was ready to die for. Yet for 25 years Western elites repeatedly insisted that men like Atta must have been driven by something other than the culture and the faith that provided him with a lens through which his actions seemed both sensible and necessary. After 9/11, intellectuals and policymakers asked “what went wrong?” as though the source of Atta’s animus toward the West was shrouded in some deep mystery. In the Western experience, men had not killed other men over religious questions en masse since the end of the great religious wars of the 17th century. Culture, a term that was once understood to encompass a great many facets of human identity, experience, and belonging—religion included—had also been ruled out. Saying that cultural differences exist and should be respected was a foundation of the multicultural order; the idea that some cultures might lead people to murder each other, for reasons that do not appear in the Western rationalist list of sane causes, struck many Western liberals as too close to racism to bother arguing the point. Since then, each time the West collided with Islam, much of the Western intellectual class reached for explanations that made sense within its own secular humanist categories: grievance, humiliation, underdevelopment, alienation, foreign policy frustration, or the failure of Western states to properly integrate men like Atta, who were, or must be, inherently no different than immigrants of similar age, class, and educational attainments from Vietnam or Poland, or anyplace else. Since all conflicts are material in origin, it was assumed that they could be settled though material means. . .Her insights into the thinking of Atta also have relevance to the current Iranian conflict. Matty Laeh Sep 06, 2026 PS: This is not my article, is a simple copy from the x account of Krzysztof Szczawinski ; - @Kristof_Poland (consider giving a follow, he has a lot of good articles about socialism) I don’t usually do this, but he explained what Gramsci was and his ideas way better than I could (even thought I knew about Gramsci for years). https://x.com/Kristof_Poland/status/2096207075386786042
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Good morning KT
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 11:19 AM (Ia/+0) 2
Dutifully called em
Onto content Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 11:20 AM (Ia/+0) 3
for 25 years Western elites repeatedly insisted that men like Atta must have been driven by something other than the culture and the faith"
When you have half a century of "all cultures are equal" and "religions are equal", what else would be expected? Posted by: man at September 12, 2026 11:24 AM (cGjQu) 4
If you wanted to introduce an "I hate poetry" person to good poetry, what's the one poem you'd give them to read?
Psalm 23, of course. Posted by: Community Notes at September 12, 2026 11:26 AM (a3CJ+) 5
Thx K.T.
Pete Buttgiggle' s father , a professor at Notre Dame, was the head of the Antonio Gramsci society of America. Besides gay, what do you think Buttgiggle believes? Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 12, 2026 11:26 AM (N2HNb) 6
Kipling, Service, manly poetry, now ignored or derided. The World is sick and getting sicker.
Posted by: Zombie G. Gordon Liddy at September 12, 2026 11:26 AM (Fn+3X) 7
The Gods of the Copybook Hearings by Kipling is a good start
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 12, 2026 11:28 AM (N2HNb) 8
If you wanted to introduce an "I hate poetry" person to good poetry, what's the one poem you'd give them to read?
The Highwayman. By Alfred Noyes. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:34 AM (aRyyL) 9
There is only a young Muslim man, in a German apartment, arranging to sacrifice his life to Allah in the confidence that Allah will reward his martyrdom in the life to come.
___________ It doesn't help that mainstream Protestants and some recent Popes have been more focused on saving mother earth, and other purely secular concerns, than saving souls. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 12, 2026 11:35 AM (XvL8K) 10
Our very own house troll Paul spews the 9/11 happened because US support for Israel talking points.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 12, 2026 11:36 AM (2BUGt) Posted by: what the cat drug in at September 12, 2026 11:36 AM (jrgJz) 12
If you wanted to introduce an "I hate poetry" person to good poetry, what's the one poem you'd give them to read?
I'd give them 'The Red Wheelbarrow' by William Carlos Williams. It creates an indelible image in your mind with about a dozen words. Imagine what longer poems can do... here it is: so much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens Posted by: 496 at September 12, 2026 11:38 AM (QbvHV) 13
If the red wheelbarrow doesn't work, there's always that young man from Nantucket
Posted by: 496 at September 12, 2026 11:39 AM (F5Pkl) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:40 AM (aRyyL) 15
If you wanted to introduce an "I hate poetry" person to good poetry, what's the one poem you'd give them to read?
It would be hard to pick just one of Muldoon’s finest. Posted by: Kratwurst at September 12, 2026 11:41 AM (NGBKs) 16
Interesting to read what Steyn wrote 25 years ago.
------------------ Link to what he wrote in "Spectator" on Steynonline. https://www.steynonline.com/16400/the-way-to-lose Posted by: olddog in mo at September 12, 2026 11:42 AM (NmD3f) 17
So if muzzies do terrorism because us support for Israel explain the muzzy terrorism in India.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 12, 2026 11:42 AM (2BUGt) 18
I am sure Longfellow poem was read to us. But my best remembrance is 4th grade as we left ever day reciting lines fro Robert Frost's Stopping by the woods on a snowy evening.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 11:42 AM (Ia/+0) Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 11:45 AM (1RGZ5) 20
Little Christine Hanson died for America. Groton is a bucolic little town with a very nice music and arts theater, built by a local benefactor to promote culture. She would have loved growing up in that pretty place, but instead some muslims decided to kill her. Remember her.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 12, 2026 11:46 AM (a6L2j) 21
From Ayaan's piece: "It wasn’t that Western observers were deaf to the logical, organizational, and civilizational dimensions of Islamist movements. What was lacking was the imagination required to believe that they might triumph."
Understanding why lefties love Islam. Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 11:47 AM (1RGZ5) 22
10 Our very own house troll Paul spews the 9/11 happened because US support for Israel talking points.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez ========= It is because of people like Pual that we got attacked. Cowardly, degenerate, and evil types that believe themselves to be Secret Kings. About as believable as We Wuz Kangz and Shit. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 11:47 AM (E4rtv) 23
Leaves of Grass
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at September 12, 2026 11:49 AM (J4Dwc) 24
You'd think that all those people calling for Islam's ascendancy would look at the youth of Iran today and ask "why?". You'd think.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 11:50 AM (Riz8t) 25
So if muzzies do terrorism because us support for Israel explain the muzzy terrorism in India.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez Shut up, they barked. They can't explain the expansion into Africa, either. US/Israel has nothing to do with it. They're fucking liars. And people on our side better get their heads out of their asses. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 11:51 AM (EGW4m) 26
24 You'd think that all those people calling for Islam's ascendancy would look at the youth of Iran today and ask "why?". You'd t
Ah, I have it! Real Islam has never been tried! Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 11:51 AM (Riz8t) Posted by: man at September 12, 2026 11:51 AM (cGjQu) 28
It always struck me years ago, when I would read historical documents the spooks and social planners published, about how difficult it would be to achieve “global governance” would be effected.
The impetus was understandable, even before atomic weapons were even tested there was a lot of discussion at a high level that such weapons would proliferate and therefore a system or international control was necessary. (The Soviets, of course nixed any such notion) But they clearly had a coordinated plan for religion in America. It had to be de-fanged. It was too powerful, church attendance was high, and the morals and traditions too ingrained in society. Some 80 years later, one can see how they incrementally and methodically chipped away at everything. Legislation, crackpot judicial rulings, education in primary schools, media, drugs, etc. “Well; it worked, didn’t it?” Harry Reid Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 11:52 AM (aPO7X) 29
It’s one of the great ironies that AWFLs love Islam. It’s like gazelles hoping lions take over.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 12, 2026 11:52 AM (2BUGt) 30
Yeats, "The Second Coming"
Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 12, 2026 11:52 AM (a6L2j) 31
My father can still recite "Ozymandius", 80 or more years after memorizing it in school/
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 12, 2026 11:53 AM (a6L2j) 32
I think there's a lot of overlap between our leftist political entities and the Islamic horde currently on a tear through the US.
For one; they share some common political beliefs that overlap with a quasi-religious ideology. The left, and the Islamic politicians we've allowed to attain office are hell bent on our destruction. And the country's. There's common cause between those two groups. For two; we've been conditioned to accept other cultures... even at our own peril. Nobody wants to be labeled a racist, but to be honest, it's a label that's lost all meaning. I would imagine in the not-to-distant future there'd be some push-back on all this. Being labeled all sorts of derogatory terms by the left is getting old and people are just now starting to fight back... ineffectively, but it's a start. I'll be dead and gone, but I'm hoping the kids carry on. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 11:53 AM (2Cry5) 33
It doesn't help that mainstream Protestants and some recent Popes have been more focused on saving mother earth, and other purely secular concerns, than saving souls.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba Eh, Christians in Name Only will always exist. As do heresies. And it is always the same cause even for Israel and Judah in the Old Testament. Too many humans rebel against the word of the Lord and want to create a god in their own image. They make idols of themselves and their feelz rather than do what is right. They excuse evil and promote it under lies like tolerance while attacking what is godly, beautiful, and upright morally. So killing babies becomes good for them, inviting criminals from abroad to kill, murder and rape is called being a good Samaritan, and coddling those here to terrorize the honest and hard working people is considered as mercy. All inversions of what is good and what is evil. And that is a sign that those CINOs chose the way of the devil. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 11:54 AM (E4rtv) 34
The Owl and the Pussycat.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:55 AM (yEz+x) 35
Some 80 years later, one can see how they incrementally and methodically chipped away at everything. Legislation, crackpot judicial rulings, education in primary schools, media, drugs, etc.
“Well; it worked, didn’t it?” Harry Reid Posted by: Common Tater It too will fail. If you have faith as strong as Daniel, or the three Shadrach, Meshach, and Abenego cast in the fiery furnace, all the tricks and snares that befoul society are cast back onto the ones that set them. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 11:56 AM (E4rtv) 36
But in its wake, in their objective of removing our religious heritage from the public sohere they expunged all those guardrails in society.
In this huge void or vacuum, a lot of really nasty wicked things moved right in. Oops. “You can’t legislate morality!!” we were lectured. Yeah, well you can un-legislate it, and someone’s “morality” is going to prevail. They left that part out. Oops. Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 11:56 AM (aPO7X) 37
Our local mosque is a complex of buildings, surrounded by large boulders, a water moat, two different gated fences, and with cameras everywhere. It's a fort.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 12, 2026 11:57 AM (zfW44) 38
It’s one of the great ironies that AWFLs love Islam. It’s like gazelles hoping lions take over.
I think in their heart of hearts they really want a man to tell them what to do. In the Brothers Karamazov, Dostoevsky wrote that free will is something most people don't want; in this case, it's really easy to see. The AWFLs won't acknowledge their craving for being controlled to themselves, because to do so would destroy their entire way of viewing the world and themselves. : The Inquisitor states that people do not actually want freedom because it brings agonizing moral responsibility and doubt; instead, they desperately want bread, miracles, and someone to take away their free will and tell them what to do. Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 11:57 AM (Riz8t) 39
29 It’s one of the great ironies that AWFLs love Islam. It’s like gazelles hoping lions take over.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez ========== Underpants gnome theology except the Islamists are prepared for what comes next, the idiot AWFLs cheering Charlie Kirk's death will be bound in burqas as baby factories. It is as if the AWFLs want this outcome because they are too frightened and weak to oppose this destiny. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 11:59 AM (E4rtv) 40
Better get the UN outta NY. I have a feeling the goatrapers are slowly taking it over.
They're establishing beach heads all over the country. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 12:00 PM (EGW4m) 41
All I'll add is that our betters have waded us into that Middle Eastern shithole time after time with the same thinking- we can somehow apply our ideals and principles to a world that, while they may have some, they are not ours. And the weak-minded among the populations of the West are OK going along with it, if not enthusiastic. A cynical man would say there's a plan...
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at September 12, 2026 12:00 PM (QaH55) 42
"If you wanted to introduce an 'I hate poetry' person to good poetry, what's the one poem you'd give them to read?"
Aurora Leigh then we could both hate it together. Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd stirring the pot at September 12, 2026 12:00 PM (r7+Q7) 43
I would imagine in the not-to-distant future there'd be some push-back on all this.
——- I was looking for that 35 years ago. I’m not very optimistic at this point. America is on a serious, almost fatal time-delay. Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 12:00 PM (aPO7X) 44
Eh, Christians in Name Only will always exist. As do heresies. And it is always the same cause even for Israel and Judah in the Old Testament.
Posted by: whig ____________ Yes, but you have to admit that the long term trend in the west (I'd say ever since the enlightenment and then the French Revolution) is for more and more CINOs or the outright irreligious. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 12, 2026 12:01 PM (XvL8K) 45
16 Interesting to read what Steyn wrote 25 years ago.
------------------ Link to what he wrote in "Spectator" on Steynonline. https://www.steynonline.com/16400/the-way-to-lose Posted by: olddog in mo at September 12, 2026 11:42 AM (NmD3f) Thank you! Posted by: m at September 12, 2026 12:01 PM (odBC9) 46
The biggest mistake made by the likes of Mussolini, The Tsars, the Nationalist Chinese, Batista, hell anyone and everyone in power anywhere at anytime who had marxists in their custody was letting them live and not shooting them. All of them. No big show trials, no court house fanfare, no 2 years for this or 5 years for that. Just shoot them out back behind the prison.
Letting them live just spread the virus. Posted by: Stamp Out The Virus Of Marxism at September 12, 2026 12:01 PM (cCXR+) 47
How about that Norm MacDonald-inspired 9/11 lead article in the New York Times? Those guys are the worst of the worst.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 12, 2026 12:01 PM (zfW44) 48
Well shucks. It still boils down to the islam.
Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 12:01 PM (LHPAg) 49
All I'll add is that our betters have waded us into that Middle Eastern shithole time after time with the same thinking- we can somehow apply our ideals and principles to a world that, while they may have some, they are not ours"
This Posted by: man at September 12, 2026 12:02 PM (cGjQu) 50
> Our local mosque is a complex of buildings, surrounded by large boulders, a water moat, two different gated fences, and with cameras everywhere. It's a fort.
----------- It's also an armory. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 12:03 PM (2Cry5) 51
A beautiful day in Waxhaw, NC.
Posted by: mrp55net at September 12, 2026 12:03 PM (dT1rV) 52
The Inquisitor states that people do not actually want freedom because it brings agonizing moral responsibility and doubt; instead, they desperately want bread, miracles, and someone to take away their free will and tell them what to do.
Posted by: Archimedes I think may be a function of culture. A real boss does not have to proclaim such on social media; people know it instinctively. So Girlbossism is rather like posing and bragging to raise social status among their competitors rather than actuality. Social media is like a twisted mirror on reality and like the palantir after Sauron obtained one, it takes a strong mind with principles plus the Holy Spirit whispering wisdom and discernment in the ear to get useful information from it. Weaker people either despair into blackpillism or simply roll over to go with the tide whichever way it is flowing. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:03 PM (E4rtv) 53
VITAE SUMMA BREVIS SPEM NOS VETET INCOHARE LONGAM
They are not long, the weeping and the laughter, Love and desire and hate; I think they have no portion in us after We pass the gate. They are not long, the days of wine and roses: Out of a misty dream Our path emerges for a while, then closes Within a dream. -- Ernest Dowson, 1867-1900 -- Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 12:04 PM (Riz8t) 54
Are you now suggesting that an error was made in the 60s and 90s by giving the most ta\\radical Saudi Wahhabists billions of dollars to fight the Russians in Afghanistan?
If so, that shipped already sailed. You did think it was a good idea back then. Sauis actively promoted THE most radical sect of that religion. Posted by: Aliss at September 12, 2026 12:05 PM (LN9Ll) 55
Bravely bold Sir Robin rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die, O brave Sir Robin. He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways, Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin! He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp, Or to have his eyes gouged out and his elbows broken, To have his kneecaps split and his body burned away And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Robin! His head smashed in and his heart cut out And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged And his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off And his pen-- Brave Sir Robin ran away, Bravely ran away, away. When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled. Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat, Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin. He is packing it in and packing it up And sneaking away and buggering up And chickening out and pissing off home, Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge. Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 12:06 PM (Riz8t) 56
27 Leaves of Grass
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky " Don't you get leaves of tobacco? Posted by: man at September 12, 2026 11:51 AM (cGjQu) We're getting dangerously close to puns here. Let's not blow it. Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd stirring the pot at September 12, 2026 12:06 PM (r7+Q7) 57
I think may be a function of culture. A real boss does not have to proclaim such on social media; people know it instinctively. So Girlbossism is rather like posing and bragging to raise social status among their competitors rather than actuality.
As long as they are non-practicing whites, all is well. Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 12:08 PM (Riz8t) 58
I am not a poetry lover, but do appreciate good poetry
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 12:08 PM (Ia/+0) 59
Yes, but you have to admit that the long term trend in the west (I'd say ever since the enlightenment and then the French Revolution) is for more and more CINOs or the outright irreligious.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba I can't say that. I suspect rebelling against the Lord and all his teachings is common across the ages. We just call it different movements and that in part is because institutions including churches and sects are made of mankind and will fail just like mankind often enough. But the Word of the Lord never will until the end of times despite the rise and decline of institutions. We don't openly do idolatry aside from the idiots that play around with dark forces, but leftist ideology has created an idol like Frankenstein (government--popular will--our democracy)--a man made monster that can and will turn on humanity. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:08 PM (E4rtv) 60
YOU gave the jihadists the power by funding them and you still will not admit or apologize for that mega mistake.
Posted by: Aliss at September 12, 2026 12:09 PM (LN9Ll) 61
THAT was the price you paid for cheap oil
Posted by: Aliss at September 12, 2026 12:10 PM (LN9Ll) 62
As long as they are non-practicing whites, all is well.
Posted by: Archimedes Another example of twisted hypergamy that leaves only pain, failure, and absence from God in its wake. Denying that you are as God created you is a sin. We can be no other than what he made us. But what we do with the raw materials is up to us under free will. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:10 PM (E4rtv) 63
From Ayaan's piece: "It wasn’t that Western observers were deaf to the logical, organizational, and civilizational dimensions of Islamist movements. What was lacking was the imagination required to believe that they might triumph."
Understanding why lefties love Islam. Posted by: KT at September 12, 2026 11:47 AM (1RGZ5) I recall the high-fiving and grab-assing following the 1993 WTC bombing. The captured terrorists were mocked for the fact they were caught because one of them tried to get the deposit back from the Ryder truck rental that carried in the bomb. We (I among them at the time) laughed when it was revealed they wanted to topple one tower into the other. The book 102 Minutes chronicles the period between that and the successful mission less than a decade later. No one is laughing now, but a lot of people have gone back to sleep, hoping it was all just a bad dream.. Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 12, 2026 12:11 PM (nbLIj) 64
It’s one of the great ironies that AWFLs love Islam. It’s like gazelles hoping lions take over.
They just want to get ploughed not-quite-consensually by swarthy exotic men who smell like goat. It's the bad boy thing, international edition. Posted by: But they REALLY want a good man at September 12, 2026 12:12 PM (TbWk/) 65
58 I am not a poetry lover, but do appreciate good poetry
Posted by: Skip Try the Bible. Has some amazing poetry that somehow works out regardless of the languages used. And whenever you feeling on top of the world, the Book of Ecclesiastes or Book of Job is there to tell you that this too in this world will pass. This world is to harden and forge people so that they can go to the Father and be with him eternally as the choir of the righteous or choose the lot of those rebelling against him. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:13 PM (E4rtv) 66
I used to think as soon as the oil runs dry we’re done having to worry about these goat fuckers. Then someone had the brilliant idea of importing them here by the millions.
Thanks Dubya. Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 12, 2026 12:13 PM (2BUGt) 67
If you wanted to introduce an "I hate poetry" person to good poetry, what's the one poem you'd give them to read?
For a young man it would be Kipling's "If". That is how one becomes the heroic lone jury holdout. Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 12, 2026 12:15 PM (91TQ2) 68
57 I think may be a function of culture. A real boss does not have to proclaim such on social media; people know it instinctively. So Girlbossism is rather like posing and bragging to raise social status among their competitors rather than actuality.
Any woman who must say "I am the Queen" is no true Queen. Posted by: Tywin Lannister at September 12, 2026 12:17 PM (TbWk/) 69
Good morning, hot coffee and content. bbl
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 12:18 PM (VQ0bX) 70
The Cremation of Sam McGee.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 12:19 PM (1z8ji) 71
"The Second Coming" and "Ozymandias" are my top two poems for Dudes Who Say They Hate Poetry. Some others:
Richard Cory. Invictus. Death of the Ball Turret Gunner. Charge of the Light Brigade. Dulce et Decorum Est. They all pack a punch, and like all poetry, should be read aloud for maximum effect. Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at September 12, 2026 12:20 PM (5YmYl) 72
Letting them live just spread the virus.
Posted by: Stamp Out The Virus Of Marxism You can't. It is because ideas will always be used to try to win power for people who are not in the power structure but want to be. Cromwell had his levellers to deal with. The radical Anabaptists in Germany had a similar idea. You get the divine right of kings because kings liked it. And so on. What we have to do is far more sobering--realizing there is no permanent victory, no permanent defeat until the end times. So we brace ourselves and contest this portion of devilment in our times that is our lot during our lifespan. We are already assured of victory because Christ has already won that victory for the faithful by his sacrifice. So Gramsci too and his progeny will flag and fail like all of mankind's efforts do. And then another will pop up rehashing the same old story--something for nothing, do as thou wilt, and every other devil inspired movement. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:20 PM (E4rtv) 73
Weaker people either despair into blackpillism or simply roll over to go with the tide whichever way it is flowing.
Posted by: whig ________ But the Grand Inquisitor's point was that the weaker people comprise the vast majority of the population, and that it was thus unfair for Christ to place the immense burden of free will on them. Dostoyevsky gave no rational answer to this, but instead had Christ kiss the Grand Inquisitor at the end. Which was the only possible answer since faith is not based on the rational. For now we see through a glass, darkly. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 12, 2026 12:21 PM (XvL8K) 74
I guess we can add "failure to execute Antonia Gramsci" to the crimes of Italian Fascism.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 12, 2026 12:22 PM (amcLV) 75
58 I am not a poetry lover, but do appreciate good poetry
Posted by: Skip On the other hand, the un-bowdlerized saga of Eskimo Nell might be more to AOS tastes in poetry. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:22 PM (E4rtv) 76
In contrast to what our political betters have in mind with regards to the Islamic horde here in the US, at least some in the Trump administration have publicly said their presence here is a problem.
Maybe lumped in with all the other hordes, but I think some in the administration are keenly aware of the threat. Yet, we can't seem to deport illegals here without some rogue judge halting it. There are a lot of hurdles to overcome with our own judiciary in order to properly deal with the threat from Islamists. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 12:22 PM (2Cry5) 77
They all pack a punch, and like all poetry, should be read aloud for maximum effect.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at September 12, 2026 12:20 PM (5YmYl) ---------- Tennyson's "The Revenge." *mic drop* Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 12, 2026 12:25 PM (amcLV) 78
But the Grand Inquisitor's point was that the weaker people comprise the vast majority of the population, and that it was thus unfair for Christ to place the immense burden of free will on them.
Dostoyevsky gave no rational answer to this, but instead had Christ kiss the Grand Inquisitor at the end. Which was the only possible answer since faith is not based on the rational. For now we see through a glass, darkly. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba All of us are weak, even Peter denied Christ three times from fear. It is only by reliance on Christ, not ourselves and our strength that we can conquer. That is the part that the Grand Inquisitor did not get. We cannot triumph ourselves with free will; we can only do so in accordance with God's will and with his blessings. That is the part of Christianity that people including Islamists fail to get. Christ is there to help us, succor us when we are floundering, help us deal with temptation that can ensnare us, but we have to ask him and humble ourselves. Even the strongest among us will falter and fail without that divine assistance but with it, we cannot fail. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:26 PM (E4rtv) 79
17 So if muzzies do terrorism because us support for Israel explain the muzzy terrorism in India.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez --- Their goals are conquest and degrade. It doesn't matter the opponent. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 12:27 PM (VQ0bX) 80
Any woman who must say "I am the Queen" is no true Queen.
Posted by: Tywin Lannister ==== Funny but pretty much true. Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:28 PM (E4rtv) 81
Our local mosque is a complex of buildings, surrounded by large boulders, a water moat, two different gated fences, and with cameras everywhere. It's a fort.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 12, 2026 11:57 AM (zfW44) Makes it hard to get out when the mortar barrage starts. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 12:29 PM (1z8ji) 82
Some of us keep telling people, the CORRECT reaction to 9/11 is the one that imagines and brings to life the reaction to what would have happened if the Capitol-targeting flight wasn't delayed on the tarmac, for if the Capital was struck within minutes of the WTC or earlier, our reaction as a people of some 300 million would be WAY different from the one that quickly soured on the Iraq war. After all, this, and the message it would have sent (all those dead Republican and Democrat lawmakers) is what Atta and Osama WANTED us to internalize.
And if not for the tarmac delay, they would have gotten a reaction from us far beyond their wettest dreams. Not to their worldly benefit, of course, whatever one thinks of their death-wish. (For one, just perhaps, the Masjid Al-Haram might not have been standing for much longer.) Posted by: Garfunkel's Sowed Oats at September 12, 2026 12:29 PM (XXR9+) 83
Letting them live just spread the virus.
Posted by: Stamp Out The Virus Of Marxism at September 12, 2026 12:01 PM (cCXR+) Same could be said for jihadis. Why hasn't Nidal Hassan been scragged yet? Get the stick out of your ass, people, and fucking do it. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 12:31 PM (1z8ji) 84
Civics was taught in grammar school -- a religious grammar school ‐- I attended fifty plus years ago. I doubt it's taught anymore. I know they picked the worst people, but Jay Leno's interviews of students on the sidewalk is tragic
Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 12, 2026 12:33 PM (MEjZB) 85
Something I didn't realize when I was young is the role of demoralization in making a civilization ripe for conquest. Now I see its insidious influence acting on soft minds.
Yesterday on campus, I was approached by a Boomer hippie type who wanted to give me a brochure about how our university was instrumental in promoting Nazism in Germany. He claimed this information was crucial considering the rising fascism in our country and the danger Trump poses. I told him that Trump is fighting fascism harder than just about anyone else and I'm deeply grateful for his devotion to that cause. I wonder what responses the hippie got from the young students. Anyway, I've come to despise the efforts to pile guilt and shame on people for a past that they weren't even a part of, especially since this effort is usually paired with encouragement to engage in current immorality (I'm not talking strictly sexual immorality, although that plays a significant introductory role). I suspect that if I had engaged this guy further, I would have uncovered many of the unsavory aspects of leftism, like anti-semitism, infanticide, suppressing unapproved speech, turning criminals loose on society. Posted by: Emmie at September 12, 2026 12:34 PM (OlzlW) 86
Islam is out to conquer the world
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 12:34 PM (Ia/+0) 87
85 If i were more partisan, I would have pointed out that the time frame he was concerned about was when Arkansas was under Democrat control.
Posted by: Emmie at September 12, 2026 12:35 PM (OlzlW) 88
Makes it hard to get out when the mortar barrage starts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 12:29 PM (1z8ji) Yea, verily. Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 12:36 PM (LHPAg) 89
Have you heard of the wonderful one-horse shay
That ran a hundred years to the day And then of a sudden it---Ah, but stay I'll tell you what happened without delay... Posted by: Wenda at September 12, 2026 12:38 PM (uSgX5) 90
37 Our local mosque is a complex of buildings, surrounded by large boulders, a water moat, two different gated fences, and with cameras everywhere. It's a fort.
Posted by: Huck Follywood --- All mosques should be raided and searched. Simultaneously would be best. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 12:40 PM (VQ0bX) 91
I was in 1st grade in 1976, and our teacher, Mrs. Weishauer, had us memorize The Midnight Ride.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 12, 2026 12:43 PM (gUs21) 92
I believe that 6 months later, Mark Steyn watched a continuous stream of Muslim women enter the maternity shop dressed in muslim garb. He did not see any european women enter; he realized demographics were on the side of muslims
Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 12, 2026 12:45 PM (MEjZB) 93
Makes it hard to get out when the mortar barrage starts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 12:29 PM (1z8ji) 3500 of them? Maybe in Free America, but do we have the capability to overcome law enforcement in blue sh tholes? Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 12:45 PM (LHPAg) 94
The deliberately organized & coordinated scientific manipulation of minds and attitudes really only got going at the beginning of the 20th century. Or at least technology had reached a level where it was far more insidious and pervasive. The Socialists perfected this to an art form.
In addition to the Frankfurt School communists imported in the 30s there was a large cohort of nazis imported after the war in the 1950s, including rocket scientists, but also chemical warfare scientists, propaganda specialists and similar. These cast of characters have had an outsize influence in the last 80 years here in America that I think is largely unknown. Yes, it is recognized an open air insane asylum in many places, but nobody quite understands why, or how this happened. Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 12:45 PM (aPO7X) Posted by: what the cat drug in at September 12, 2026 12:47 PM (jrgJz) 96
Makes it hard to get out when the mortar barrage starts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 12:29 PM (1z8ji) 3500 of them? Maybe in Free America, but do we have the capability to overcome law enforcement in blue sh tholes? Posted by: Eromero at September 12, 2026 12:45 PM (LHPAg) Well, I am assuming some event occurs that causes the powers that be to declare all islam to be the enemy. Which will eventually happen, because they cannot help themselves. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2026 12:49 PM (1z8ji) 97
"...I was struck by the name of Christine Hanson of Groton, Massachusetts, a two-year-old girl sitting between her parents on a doomed flight. She was last heard crying in the background during her father's telephone call to her grandparents to report that the stewardess had been stabbed. Christine would be approaching thirty now - and I cannot but feel that the intervening years have dishonoured her memory:"
Peter Hanson grew up in Easton, CT, where I live now. Yesterday, we dedicated the 25th anniversary ceremony at the 9/11 Memorial Garden in front of Town Hall to the Hanson family - Christine, Sue Kim, and Peter Hanson. There were several people there - including our First Selectman - who grew up with Peter. The last speaker also knew Peter from Easton, and was working on the 64th floor of the South Tower when the plane that the Hansons were on struck the WTC. After he evacuated the tower, he was eventually reunited with his wife and six-week-old daughter and went up to VT to decompress. While there, they ended up receiving a baby gift in the mail, addressed to the daughter. It was from the Hansons. Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2026 12:53 PM (/ZuMP) 98
'Civics' was replaced by 'Sociology'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2026 12:55 PM (XeU6L) 99
Islam delenda est.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 12, 2026 12:58 PM (TlKpx) 100
66 I used to think as soon as the oil runs dry we’re done having to worry about these goat fuckers. Then someone had the brilliant idea of importing them here by the millions.
Thanks Dubya. Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez --- Bush, the Bush's, are mere functionaries of the Borg or Administrative State or call the Board of Directors what you will. _Politburo Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 12:58 PM (VQ0bX) 101
Yesterday on campus, I was approached by a Boomer hippie type who wanted to give me a brochure about how our university was instrumental in promoting Nazism in Germany. He claimed this information was crucial considering the rising fascism in our country and the danger Trump poses.
Me: If he's the fascist you say he is, why are you free to wander around passing out leaflets denouncing him? I'll wait. Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 01:01 PM (Riz8t) 102
3500 of them? Maybe in Free America, but do we have the capability to overcome law enforcement in blue sh tholes?
Posted by: Eromero I have ideas. OPSEC Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 01:01 PM (vnlVL) 103
I like to picture the hijackers, indeed all muslim martyrs, getting roundly rogered by their 72 virginal hormone-crazed teenage boys
Posted by: 496 at September 12, 2026 01:03 PM (ouubj) 104
Yet, we can't seem to deport illegals here without some rogue judge halting it. There are a lot of hurdles to overcome with our own judiciary in order to properly deal with the threat from Islamists.
Posted by: Martini Farmer --- Regaining the balance of powers, putting the judiciary back into and equal third and getting rid of radical judges who do not respect the Constitution or the rule of law is a major necessity to the continuation of this Republic. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 01:04 PM (VQ0bX) 105
There is no radical islam. There is only islam.
Posted by: free tibet at September 12, 2026 01:04 PM (iNp3L) Posted by: Archimedes at September 12, 2026 01:05 PM (Riz8t) 107
I'm still expecting to start a trinitite collection from the 1000 most sacred places in Islam.
But by that time, it might include samples from Dearborn, London, Windsorstan, Berlin. I still believe we'll win. And most of our dead will be deadweight leftists anyways and no great loss. Actually, no loss at all. Everyone have a good weekend. Posted by: Stateless - Keeping 15 year old Ralphy happy and alive. He's a puppy at heart. at September 12, 2026 01:05 PM (Sco7b) 108
Makes it hard to get out when the mortar barrage starts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon --- If we only had mortars. They won't be fighting our military they will be fighting us in the streets just as they are in Iran. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 01:08 PM (VQ0bX) 109
They infest, invade and erode from the inside out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 01:09 PM (VQ0bX) 110
If you wanted to introduce an "I hate poetry" person to good poetry, what's the one poem you'd give them to read? For the boys: Robert W. Service Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2026 01:15 PM (eRlcH) 111
> If we only had mortars. They won't be fighting our military they will be fighting us in the streets just as they are in Iran.
------------ I imagine a number of those men from the middle east who jumped the border under *biden's reign are now setting up shop in mosques around the country, collecting weapons and explosives for "later use." On us. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 01:16 PM (2Cry5) Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 12, 2026 01:17 PM (g8Ew8) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 01:18 PM (VQ0bX) 114
Thanks Dubya.
Remember, during the 2000 election Dubya said that Arabs should get less scrutiny in airports. I don't think that anyone's reputation has collapsed more in the last twenty-five years than W. Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 12, 2026 01:22 PM (aD4fx) 115
Civilization is always in upheaval. Society is always changing. People tend to forget that peace is a luxury to be worked for.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2026 01:23 PM (E0Et6) 116
Read Bush is still spewing that Islam is a religion of peace crap yesterday
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 01:23 PM (Ia/+0) 117
For the boys: Robert W. Service Posted by: Hadrian ------- Good choice. In HS (all boys), my English teacher had the class memorize 'The Cremation of Sam Mcgee'. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2026 01:24 PM (XeU6L) 118
When the socialists think they are in control, then they will start murdering their allies.
Good luck in Dearbornistan. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 01:24 PM (gXiuU) 119
What we have to do is far more sobering--realizing there is no permanent victory, no permanent defeat until the end times. So we brace ourselves and contest this portion of devilment in our times that is our lot during our lifespan.
Whig, this is so well-put I copied it down to think about. Thank you. Posted by: RI Red at September 12, 2026 01:24 PM (jkyX4) 120
Have a FWP, haven't found mh reading glasses all week. There here, but where. Going to try reading book without them.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 01:25 PM (Ia/+0) 121
120 Have a FWP, haven't found mh reading glasses all week. There here, but where. Going to try reading book without them.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 01:25 PM (Ia/+0) You need glasses to read, but since you can't see you can't find your glasses. That's a Catch 20/20. Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2026 01:26 PM (/ZuMP) 122
I don't think that anyone's reputation has collapsed more in the last twenty-five years than W.
Besides the "religion of peace" drivel, W. helped set the stage for the Deep State's attempts to overthrow the elected government. On September 12th, after the worst intelligence failure in the history of the United States, the intelligence agencies prepared themselves for the mass firings that would surely follow after this disaster. Bush fired no one. That convinced the Comeys and Brennans that they were bulletproof, and that they could try to overthrow the elected government of the United States without consequence. Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 12, 2026 01:27 PM (aD4fx) 123
Have a FWP, haven't found mh reading glasses all week. There here, but where. Going to try reading book without them.
Posted by: Skip ------- Local drug store, ~$5:00 for cheapies that kinda work. I've been avoiding getting a prescription pair. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2026 01:27 PM (XeU6L) 124
Even the strongest among us will falter and fail without that divine assistance but with it, we cannot fail.
Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:26 PM (E4rtv) Bullshit. Even as a good Christian, you'll still fail, sometimes badly. Belief in God gives one the strength to admit it, correct it, then get back on your feet and move on. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 12, 2026 01:29 PM (g8Ew8) 125
In the War for Civilization, we will emerge victorious!
Posted by: Big Penguin at September 12, 2026 01:29 PM (0sNs1) 126
Thank you KT for writing on this important topic.
Hirsi Ali's book "Infidel" was transformative for my view of the current crisis. She is brilliant (so is her husband.) Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 01:30 PM (RIvkX) 127
When the socialists think they are in control, then they will start murdering their allies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2026 01:24 PM Qué? That's a rather cynical thing to say, Seňorita! Posted by: Che Guevara at September 12, 2026 01:31 PM (0sNs1) 128
Read Bush is still spewing that Islam is a religion of peace crap yesterday
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 01:23 PM (Ia/+0) ===== Hard to believe yet not hard to believe. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 01:32 PM (RIvkX) 129
Have a FWP, haven't found mh reading glasses all week. There here, but where. Going to try reading book without them. Posted by: Skip ------- Local drug store, ~$5:00 for cheapies that kinda work. I've been avoiding getting a prescription pair. Posted by: Mike Hammer Buy several pair and leave them about the house. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2026 01:33 PM (Cqx++) 130
Qué? That's a rather cynical thing to say, Seňorita!
Posted by: Che Guevara at September 12, 2026 01:31 PM (0sNs1) ===== Was? Posted by: Ernst Rohm at September 12, 2026 01:33 PM (RIvkX) 131
Qué? That's a rather cynical thing to say, Seňorita!
Posted by: Che Guevara at September 12, 2026 01:31 PM (0sNs1) ===== Was? Posted by: Ernst Rohm at September 12, 2026 01:33 PM (RIvkX) Tell me about it. Posted by: Leon Trotsky at September 12, 2026 01:39 PM (eRlcH) 132
Was? Posted by: Ernst Rohm -------- Lately been reading this. A very detailed history https://shorturl.at/xydXr Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 12, 2026 01:40 PM (XeU6L) Posted by: javems at September 12, 2026 01:45 PM (zFsEm) 134
Very nice day outside. This evening going with my sister and takkng my dad to a drone light show.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 01:47 PM (Ia/+0) Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 01:49 PM (2Cry5) 136
culture is politics by other means – and that the side that controls the culture wins, regardless of who wins the elections
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 01:53 PM (VQ0bX) 137
Read Bush is still spewing that Islam is a religion of peace crap yesterday
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 01:23 PM (Ia/+0) ===== Hard to believe yet not hard to believe. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 12, 2026 01:32 PM (RIvkX) He's nothing but a soy and estrogen-soaked milquetoast pussy who's one of many of the deep state's sellouts by the muzzies. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 12, 2026 01:55 PM (g8Ew8) 138
We have been well informed and well warned about the true nature of Islam since its very beginning. For 14 centuries history has amply demonstrated the fact that this ideology retains an adamantine grip on its death cult origin. In every century, scholars and laborers, warriors and clerics, rulers and commoners alike have all given witness to the unchanging nature of Islam’s progress throughout the world — submission before the sword. That not every muslim bears a sword is of no matter to the nature of Islam, nor is the alleged ‘silent majority’ of so-called ‘moderate muslims’, just as an apostate Christian is of no matter to the nature of Christianity. Of course, the true muslim has no qualms in showing the difference in how such apostasy is handled…
(cont.) Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 01:55 PM (eTh1u) 139
(cont.)
There can be no accommodation with those who wish to enslave and kill you. Unfortunately, it is our own civility that has been our undoing in dealing with the problem of Islam. The modern, enlightened Western Civilization has in varying degrees throughout those nations where it holds sway rejected its Spiritual underpinnings in favor of a relentless secularism. This has led to a blindness that prevents them from comprehending what it is that they are seeing in those who hold to the tenets of Islam. The philosophies and fantasies of those who hold power and influence in our culture and polity have declared that all creeds, castes and cultures are equal, and that there is no objective right or wrong to measure between them. All testimony to the contrary from the past is dismissed as ‘unenlightened provincialism,’ and all evidence in the present is equivocated and dissembled as merely a reaction to our past provocations and lingering biases. The calls for an ‘Islamic Reformation’ miss the mark by virtue of the fact that that is indeed what is taking place already — the truly faithful have begun to wrest he faith away from the apostate. (cont.) Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 01:56 PM (eTh1u) 140
(cont.)
Meanwhile, Islam looks at the world from its unchanging perspective and sees what it has always seen; lands full of dhimmis and kafirs awaiting the inevitable conquest of the one true faith. Their ‘hearts and minds’ — even the so-called ‘moderates’ — are unwilling to be changed to hold to the secular Western notions of ‘tolerance’ and ‘equality.’ Their faith holds as a tenet that it is a good work to lie to the unfaithful, and vice in the pursuit of their ‘virtue’ is no barrier to their paradise, especially when its purchase can be made with the blood of unbelievers. And now, thanks to the insanity of those leaders in Europe who have sown the winds of demographic suicide through so-called progressive policies like abortion and one-child initiatives, they are reaping the whirlwind of invasion by legions of young men who are unencumbered by such “enlightenment” — and some welcome them with open arms! I fear there will be no Charles Martel to turn the tide back this time. (cont.) Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 01:57 PM (eTh1u) 141
Buy several pair and leave them about the house.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2026 01:33 PM (Cqx++) ___ That's what I do. Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 12, 2026 01:58 PM (Rln0i) 142
(cont.)
So we are left with a hope that Islam will return to the apostates, which is foolishly unrealistic, given the witness of those Judeo-Christian denominations and sects who have done likewise, only to see their branch shrivel and die through the attrition of death, denial, and desertion. And a return to the centuries of isolation and Internecine conflicts that marked the Islamic world before we started marking lines on maps is no longer possible — that djinn is out of the bottle. Unless Islam is eradicated, there will always be conflict. Reducing Mecca and all the other major Islamic centers and governments to radioactive slag would not be enough. But as genocide is anathema to the civilized mind, it is a conflict that we can never truly end. But we must never never never never NEVER SUBMIT! Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 01:58 PM (eTh1u) Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 12, 2026 01:59 PM (g8Ew8) 144
>>> If the red wheelbarrow doesn't work, there's always that young man from Nantucket
Posted by: 496 at September 12, 2026 11:39 AM (F5Pkl) *golf clap* Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2026 02:03 PM (q177U) 145
>>for 25 years Western elites repeatedly insisted that men like Atta must have been driven by something other than the culture and the faith"
-- >>When you have half a century of "all cultures are equal" and "religions are equal", what else would be expected? - - - - We've been watching the 9/11 shows on Nat Geo and the History channels. They've been making these for years, telling the stories of various survivors, including footage, etc. This year I was really struck by how New York-y they all were - the accents, the obviously Irish and Italian first responders were, how they had a lot of family involved (family there for generations), the NYC sensibilities and humor. It is delightful, but also so sad, knowing this kind of New York-iness is being replaced with mass foreign immigration and "diversity" that is celebrates/valued over the long-time locals who've made this city great. That, and the sheer, unhesitant heroics. THAT is a value of ours we take for granted, the notion that of course co-workers will carry each other down the stairs, that not just FDNY, bust civilians run toward the chaos, run UP the stairs to save as many as they can. Not all cultures do that. Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2026 02:03 PM (rOKnE) 146
The above commentary was something I wrote for another blog about 16 years ago (RIP Threedonia), minus the quotes from historical accounts that bore witness to the origin of the death cult.
I agree with Mark Steyn and others -- we lost the "War on 'Terror'" the very moment GWB stood in front of those ideological fellow travelers of the bastards who flew those planes and basically surrendered to them. Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 02:04 PM (eTh1u) 147
On the next episode of the Waltons, every female member of the family is pregnant.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2026 02:05 PM (8hZNI) 148
>>The above commentary was something I wrote for another blog about 16 years ago (RIP Threedonia),
Oh man, I read your blog! Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2026 02:06 PM (rOKnE) 149
It's the same retarded fairy-tale twaddle they tried to 'splain domestic crime in the 1950s, and 1960s. Crime, you see, is always and ever a matter of "poverty".
They tried that shit in high school. I countered that, with the observation that the real dynamic is ordinarily that crime causes poverty. But the lunatics insist on their delusions, because to admit they were wrong about their crackpot theories is too horrible to contemplate. So Moslem atrocities are due to "poverty". Send them more money, and it will get better. Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 02:08 PM (/ijqt) 150
143 Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 01:56 PM (eTh1u)
Paragraphs are your friends. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 12, 2026 01:59 PM (g8Ew Yes, and were this blog still allowing unlimited text (as it was when I first cross posted it here before the copy/paste troll), there would be a few more than what I used here in order to keep it to just four comments. ;-) Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 02:09 PM (eTh1u) 151
Islam is antithetical to Christianity.
Islam is antithetical to life. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 02:09 PM (VQ0bX) 152
The world paying Muslims their jizm taxes so they don't have to work, keep their 4 wives pregnant won't make it any better.
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 02:11 PM (Ia/+0) 153
PET NOOD
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 02:14 PM (Ia/+0) 154
When you have half a century of "all cultures are equal" and "religions are equal", what else would be expected?
------ It's worse than that. They don't claim cultures are "equal" or anything of the sort. Nobody believes that, clearly cultures are widely disparate. What they claim is that despite these wide differences, there is no inherent superiority or preferable way of doing anything. Different, yes. Better, no. There are no objective standards, you see. There is no "right" or "wrong" way, everything is biased, blah blah blah. The real goal is to turn people into mewling quims who will not defend what they have. Not their life, not anyone else's life, not the culture, not anything. They have no framework, no independent thought. The worst thing of all is to be "judgmental" or declare that one thing might just really be better than some other thing. They live in a Psychic Cage. The way to have fun with these nihilists, when the professor suggests in class there is no objective reality, well then we'll just delete your fucking paycheck and retirement pension there, sport. They'll start screeching. Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2026 02:14 PM (/ijqt) 155
148 >>The above commentary was something I wrote for another blog about 16 years ago (RIP Threedonia),
Oh man, I read your blog! Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2026 02:06 PM (rOKnE) It wasn't my blog! That honor goes to the anonymous "Floyd Turbo". I was a frequent commenter who eventually graduated to "COB" status there. Unfortunately, someone hacked the blog and locked us out, and Floyd's backup went tits up at the exact same time, so that's why it went dark. Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 02:16 PM (eTh1u) 156
>>It wasn't my blog! That honor goes to the anonymous "Floyd Turbo". I was a frequent commenter who eventually graduated to "COB" status there. Unfortunately, someone hacked the blog and locked us out, and Floyd's backup went tits up at the exact same time, so that's why it went dark.
Oh, d@mn, that sucks!! Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2026 02:17 PM (rOKnE) 157
But the lunatics insist on their delusions, because to admit they were wrong about their crackpot theories is too horrible to contemplate.
So Moslem atrocities are due to "poverty". Send them more money, and it will get better. Posted by: Common Tater --- Yep, Gramci nailed it. The instrument was the long march through the institutions. Not the barricade. The school, the university, the media, the judiciary, the civil service, the cultural establishment – every institution through which a civilization transmits its values to the next generation. Capture these, fill them with people who share the counter-hegemonic project, and the cultural assumptions that maintain the existing order gradually dissolve. No barricades. No visible moment of rupture. Just the slow replacement of one cultural hegemony with another. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 02:19 PM (VQ0bX) 158
goozer, it's what trolls did to the blog that caused the word limit on extended thought. Trolls are one of the evil nuisances in this world.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 02:22 PM (VQ0bX) 159
On the next episode of the Waltons, every female member of the family is pregnant.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 12, 2026 02:05 PM (8hZNI). At least we know it wasn't Will Geer. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 02:27 PM (u3SRj) 160
The educational capture was the masterpiece. Control the curriculum and you control the categories of thought available to the next generation. Not by telling them what to conclude – by shaping what questions they think to ask, what they consider obvious and what they consider unthinkable. The generation educated after the long march does not need to be told what to think. It thinks what it was formed to think – and experiences that thinking as its own
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 02:30 PM (VQ0bX) 161
The dirty little secret is that we CAN have back the America of the Fifties--but with lower income taxes!--but only if we're willing to kill enough internal enemies to destroy their power forever.
Ever wonder why there were no more Southern rebellions after the Civil War? It was because they had lost too many men to put up a fight again. If we do away with maybe ten or twenty million leftists, not only will they not be able to make a military comeback, they won't be able to win any elections either. We'll be able to do cool stuff like settle the other planets instead of dealing with the latest treasonous stuff they come up with. Plus, it will be fun to see some wannabe online badass begging for his life and ratting out his friends, right before you put a bullet in him. If we don't do this, we'll, after the Lindsay Clancy brigade is done killing their kids so they can get back to the party, do you have any doubt that they will come after ours? These subhuman pieces of shit wanted to rape Sarah Palin for not aborting her baby boy. Posted by: Ken at September 12, 2026 02:37 PM (aVf49) 162
> The educational capture was the masterpiece.
------------- 4 or more years of socialist indoctrination followed by a piece of paper that's worthless. Go to job interview and are totally confused about what you're expected to do, hate the idea of a work schedule, being told what to do, when to do it and when to complete it. Bail on finding meaningful work and become increasingly pissed off at society. Fall back on your "degree" and join up with like minded people and spend your days protesting. You get free meals, a place to sleep and feel like you're really "sticking it to the man." There's at least two generations of this festering resentment about to boil over. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 02:39 PM (2Cry5) 163
Public education is worthless.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 02:52 PM (u3SRj) 164
Posted by: whig at September 12, 2026 12:13 PM (E4rtv)
Whig - I'm way late to the thread and you probably won't see this but I wanted to say that the Holy Spirit is within you and I value your words, inspired as they are by the Holy Spirit. I regularly pray for His guidance and inspiration too, especially in these troubling times. May the Good Lord be with you always. Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 12, 2026 03:06 PM (91pBE) 165
158 goozer, it's what trolls did to the blog that caused the word limit on extended thought. Trolls are one of the evil nuisances in this world.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 02:22 PM (VQ0bX) Yes, I know, I've been on this blog since early '09. I remember when it happened. Posted by: goozer at September 12, 2026 03:07 PM (eTh1u) 166
Yep, Gramci nailed it.
The instrument was the long march through the institutions. Not the barricade. The school, the university, the media, the judiciary, the civil service, the cultural establishment – every institution through which a civilization transmits its values to the next generation. Capture these, fill them with people who share the counter-hegemonic project, and the cultural assumptions that maintain the existing order gradually dissolve. No barricades. No visible moment of rupture. Just the slow replacement of one cultural hegemony with another. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 02:19 PM (VQ0bX) You nailed it too my friend. And it all starts with - and ends with - the schools. All those institutions require a "Degree", worthless as is it in real knowledge, to advance. Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 12, 2026 03:11 PM (91pBE) 167
The educational capture was the masterpiece.
------------- 4 or more years of socialist indoctrination followed by a piece of paper that's worthless. Go to job interview and are totally confused about what you're expected to do, hate the idea of a work schedule, being told what to do, when to do it and when to complete it. Bail on finding meaningful work and become increasingly pissed off at society. Fall back on your "degree" and join up with like minded people and spend your days protesting. You get free meals, a place to sleep and feel like you're really "sticking it to the man." There's at least two generations of this festering resentment about to boil over. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2026 02:39 PM (2Cry5) Precisely. The targeting of the schools was diabolically evil. And effective. Khrushchev was right and that's how they did it. Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 12, 2026 03:14 PM (91pBE) 168
Thats why to me the youngest Americans H8 the country, brainwashed into Cultural Marxism.
Every election there is a booth outside the polling place a table and almost always high school girl thereYoung Democrats organization. Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2026 03:20 PM (Ia/+0) 169
They Frankfort School assholes should have been lined up on the pier and shot. East River crabs gotta eat, too.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2026 03:26 PM (u3SRj) 170
The educational capture was the masterpiece. Control the curriculum and you control the categories of thought available to the next generation. Not by telling them what to conclude – by shaping what questions they think to ask, what they consider obvious and what they consider unthinkable. The generation educated after the long march does not need to be told what to think. It thinks what it was formed to think – and experiences that thinking as its own
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 02:30 PM (VQ0bX) Nailed it. And it's why, if we want our great civilization back, we have to get out there and evangelize. We have to get people to understand what was the basis of our civilization and how those things make freedom possible. We have to pass on our religion and our culture AND the knowledge that built American thought. What God says about His commandments is also true of our culture and our freedom: You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. Posted by: GWB at September 12, 2026 03:29 PM (kU0PQ) 171
“This son of yours [Ishmael] will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives” (Genesis 16:12,)
-- My teachers also introduced me to the greater enemies of Islam—the great Satan, being the United States of America, and the little Satan, being Israel, the Jewish state. A distinction was made between Israel as a state and Jews, who embodied a type of metaphysical evil. The Jew was synonymous with the word Satan. He was behind all evil things, and had designated Islam and Muslims as his enemy, and was hell-bent on destroying us all. In all of our prayers, and in all of our dua is the supplication that God would destroy and eliminate the Jews. _ Ayaan Hirsi Ali Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 03:32 PM (VQ0bX) 172
What’s happening in America, they tell me, is not dramatic enough to warrant any kind of serious change. Muslim communities have a constitutional right to grow and expand, and if they win elections then they win elections. What I hear is the same inability that I heard in Europe 25 years ago to accept the magnitude of the threat posed by a hostile foe, or even to admit the reality of cultural differences.
_ Ayaan Hirsi Ali Call to prayer 5 times a day; Minneapolis, Hamtramck, Michigan — . Dearborn, Michigan, Paterson, New Jersey — subject to designated hours. Astoria, Queens, New York — during Ramadan. Occoquan, Virginia — invited by the mayor, two occasions during Ramadan. Broadcast loud, throughout these American cities by those whose devotion is to conquer us. Submission, we much. Epic Center Texas and another Islamic Center in Katy TX. How many in other states? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 12, 2026 04:03 PM (VQ0bX) 173
I'll just note, I got a text alert of a man with a machete from the local police alert wearing a "black and white rag on face". I'd put $1000 down that it's a keffiyah. But it's not allowed by the narrative to be factually identified. Good grief.
Posted by: InZona at September 12, 2026 06:06 PM (XiTQh) 174
The Highwayman. By Alfred Noyes.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 12, 2026 11:34 AM (aRyyL) 8th Grade: our teacher loved this poem and every years assigned a student to memorize and recite it to the class at the end of the school year. She always chose the class suck up. "And the highwayman came riding-riding-riding." Posted by: waepnedmann at September 12, 2026 11:32 PM (CpK8/) The
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