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Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:26 PM




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1 How do you bully a donkey?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (bss/y)

2 read the content

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (73/SM)

3 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0)

4 Heh. Seattle people are erecting street barricades to keep out goons doing drive bys of houses.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (bss/y)

THE MORNING RANT: Student Loan Defaults and the 40-Year-Old, First-Time Home Owner

Young Americans are saddled with extraordinary amounts of the worst type of debt, student loans, and it is one of the reasons that they are delaying the most-important debt they can take on, specifically mortgage debt.

There are two debt trends that intersect at about the age of 40. This is the average age now of first-time mortgage borrowers, and it is also the average age of those defaulting on their student loans. There is correlation between these two problems. In 1990, the average age of first-time home buyers was under-30.

Home ownership, even with a mortgage payment, builds wealth. Unsecured student loan debt that discourages home ownership impedes wealth-building.

According to the Liberty Street Economics website published by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the average age of those defaulting on student loans is now 39-years old. But unlike traditional bankruptcies which relieve the debt burden, student loan debt is never relieved. Its default is subject to garnishment of wages, social security payments, and tax refunds. It also soils the credit rating of those defaulting, making it extremely difficult to ever obtain a mortgage.

There are so many variables at play in this mess, including the suspension of student loan repayments during the Covid panic and President Biden’s campaign promise ”to forgive all undergraduate tuition-related federal student debt from two-and four-year public colleges and universities.”

How to fix the student loan debacle is complicated, but one place to start is to immediately stop fueling the problem. Let’s stop loading up today’s 18-year-olds with crushing debt that enriches bloated colleges, many of which are left-wing indoctrination factories.

If universities had to provide guaranies for the student loans from which flow the tuition and fees the universities collect, they’d necessarily become more interested in limiting their dollar exposure. Even more important, they’d want to ensure that their students are getting degrees that lead to income-producing careers that will make possible repayment of their debt.

If the universities were to choose to start restricting credit-access to incoming students, that would then incentivize cost competition among colleges, and possibly even steer higher-education toward other models than the brick-and-ivy campus. If we’re honest, the traditional university model isn’t even about education, it’s about “the college experience,” making contacts, and obtaining an increasingly irrelevant credential. The actual education can inexpensively be obtained online for most areas of study.

Way too many young adults are starting their working careers with a “mortgage payment” worth of student loan debt, but the beneficiary is the university industrial complex. Student loan debt is destructive. Mortgage loan debt is beneficial. Let’s stop incentivizing the former at the expense of the latter.

*****

Throckmorton’s First Law of Live Music: “If there’s an upright bass in the band, it’s probably going to be good”

Today is Memorial Day, a sacred day in which we honor those who gave their lives in service to our country. There is no need to implore the readers of this blog to remember the purpose of this holiday, because you don’t need reminding. You are already patriots who revere those who made the ultimate sacrifice on behalf of the United States.

My childhood best friend lost an uncle in Vietnam. 59 years later Uncle Jack is still remembered and revered in the family. Jack’s sister, my best friend’s mother, still grieves the loss of her only brother.

Here is Kathy Matea singing a sweet, sad song from the Civil War era titled “The Vacant Chair” about a family’s first Thanksgiving after their beloved Willie was killed in the fighting.

We shall meet but we shall miss him.
There will be one vacant chair.
We shall linger to caress him
While we breathe our evening prayer.
When a year ago we gathered,
Joy was in his mild blue eye.
But the golden cord is severed,
And our hopes in ruin lie.

Chorus:
We shall meet, but we shall miss him.
There will be one vacant chair.
We shall linger to caress him
When we breathe our evening prayer.

At our fireside, sad and lonely,
Often will the bosom swell
At remembrance of the story
How our noble Willie fell.
How he strove to bear our banner
Through the thickest of the fight
And uphold our country’s honor
In the strength of manhood’s might.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (Ia/+0)

2 Hey-o!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (X8xt3)

3 Sad song

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (FtULh)

4 The Marxists promised free education, and the Auto-Pen administration tried to give them that

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (Ia/+0)

5 I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear. It's just another government program to be raided.

Isn't that awesome!?!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:03 AM (X8xt3)

6 Let’s stop loading up today’s 18-year-olds with crushing debt that enriches bloated colleges, many of which are left-wing indoctrination factories.

But then we'd have to lower our tuition!

Posted by: The University Fraud Complex at May 25, 2026 11:04 AM (zw+xd)

7 Often will the bosom swell

Boobs!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Kt19C)

8 Buckles up for another vigorous discussion of whether or not Starbucks and DoorDash are responsible for the failure to launch of yutes today, assuming you still consider 40 to be young, which I do not.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

9 When my apartment burned down in... 2002 or 3, I moved back in with the parents. I wanted to try to get something positive out of all this shit and had about 40k in debt from school. I had a job, which was a plus.

So, I put about half of what I made toward the debt and half toward rebuilding a bank to be able to move out again. I did not just pay it off in one go, but got it paid off by 2007, after moving out again.

Thank you Mom and Dad for always being there for me.

It was actually really satisfying when there was only like .01 on one loan left and the gov said 'let's call it square.' I wanted to write a check for a penny.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (bss/y)

10 5 I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear. It's just another government program to be raided.

Isn't that awesome!?!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:03

How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n)

11 Hey, hey, keep your eyes off the endowments. That's OUR money!

Posted by: Uni's at May 25, 2026 11:06 AM (u/66v)

12 Obama's federalization of student loans turned every left-wing university into a Quality Learing Center. The fraud is the entire point, as are the make-work jobs for AWFLs (I saw recently that Yale has more administrators than undergrads, and many other universities are in a similar situation).

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 11:07 AM (QZThv)

13 8 Buckles up for another vigorous discussion of whether or not Starbucks and DoorDash are responsible for the failure to launch of yutes today, assuming you still consider 40 to be young, which I do not.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

I think the root of it is relationships, to be honest. Getting your shit together so a woman will have you is a lot of the motive force of history.

That is a gigantic mess now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:07 AM (bss/y)

14 Obama's federalization of student loans turned every left-wing university into a Quality Learing Center. The fraud is the entire point, as are the make-work jobs for AWFLs (I saw recently that Yale has more administrators than undergrads, and many other universities are in a similar situation).

I remember when he first proposed it. I said to my wife "they're just cultivating another group that owes them". I was right.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

15 I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear.

Huh. Attendance is optional at our school!

Posted by: Quality Learing Collige at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM (u/66v)

16 How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n)

May be different now, but I got money which I then paid to the school. May be different, I dunno. Or depending on the loan.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM (bss/y)

17 I think the root of it is relationships, to be honest. Getting your shit together so a woman will have you is a lot of the motive force of history.

I couldn't agree more, even if at the time, you weren't consciously thinking that.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t)

18 So the message is that if you do not own a home at 40, you’re a loser and a failure?

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (T6aVk)

19 May be different now, but I got money which I then paid to the school. May be different, I dunno. Or depending on the loan.

Yup. My wife knew a guy in grad school who did nothing, but got "loans" which he used to invest in real estate. I very much doubt he ever paid back a penny, or got a degree.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t)

20 For profit colleges and universities were major contributors to GOP politicians.

Blue state NY officers free tuition to families earning less than $80,000

I go to City University of New York. Tuition is $5000. I get a 7k fedPell Grant and a 3k HESC State grant.CUNY gives me back $5000 per year.
I am over 75yo

Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (httTc)

21 The colleges are predators and the stupid young students their prey.

In the end, the taxpayer will get it in the ass, which they can wipe with the useless diplomas given out.

Posted by: A Sucker Born Every Minute at May 25, 2026 11:10 AM (OoF9t)

22 I couldn't agree more, even if at the time, you weren't consciously thinking that.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t)

No, but women being choosy about who they mated with meant you had to stand out from the pack. It was a positive thing. The opposite of a perverse incentive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (bss/y)

23 Yeah, they send you off to college, try to gain a little knowledge

But all you want to do is learn how to score

Posted by: Zombie Jimmy Buffett at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (wVcYX)

24 So the message is that if you do not own a home at 40, you’re a loser and a failure?

No, for some people, it doesn't make sense. The message is that if you default on your obligations, and then expect other people to pay them off, you're a loser.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t)

25 So the message is that if you do not own a home at 40, you’re a loser and a failure?

And stop posting recipes for poverty meals!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (kYmoU)

26 A major cure would be the full privatization of student loans. Good luck.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (T6aVk)

27 Even our trolls are olds.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (bss/y)

28 10 5 I've seen stories on X where student loans are a new source of fraud. Both citizens and foreigners will get the loans, maybe attend a class or two, drop out, disappear. It's just another government program to be raided.

Isn't that awesome!?!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 11:03

How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n)

No, not all loans go right to the schools...and for those that do, some schools are also fake and split the proceeds...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (tOcjL)

29 Lizzy wouldn't doubt it.
Wouldn't put it past those who plotted to have educaion loans go through government to have it all collapse some day

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (Ia/+0)

30 16 How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n)

May be different now, but I got money which I then paid to the school. May be different, I dunno. Or depending on the loan.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:08 AM

With my MBA, the money went directly to the school and if there wasn’t enough, I paid the difference. But maybe different loan programs, like you said.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (Wmg4n)

31 Odds paul took the brown acid..

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (gbGyB)

32 No, but women being choosy about who they mated with meant you had to stand out from the pack. It was a positive thing. The opposite of a perverse incentive.

I'll never forget the first time after college a cute girl I knew in HS suddenly made it very clear that I was, in fact, desirable. It was a bolt out of the blue.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t)

33 Attn Cow Demon: The message is that if you are the type of person who aspires to home ownership, it’s a shame to start adulthood with a mortgage payment’s worth of student debt, which precludes buying a house.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (d9Cw3)

34 My son incurred student debt. Not a "lot" but enough that it took him several years to pay it off while living at home with his mother. He's still there. Not enough left to rent or buy something.

*shrugs*

Choices. Some he made were poor.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (jehhT)

35 How does that help the fraudsters? The loans go directly to the school.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:05 AM (Wmg4n)

But more importantly - Happy birthday, Piper!

Posted by: Boswell at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (j10i6)

36 No, for some people, it doesn't make sense. The message is that if you default on your obligations, and then expect other people to pay them off, you're a loser.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:11 AM (Riz8t)

Wholeheartedly agree with that. For me, home ownership does not make sense - yet. But soon!

I never wanted to go through the hassle of owning a home knowing I would have to offload the thing in 3-5 years, I could buy a home for cheap here - good luck selling it in a place no one wants to move to.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:14 AM (T6aVk)

37 I'll never forget the first time after college a cute girl I knew in HS suddenly made it very clear that I was, in fact, desirable. It was a bolt out of the blue.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t)

Yeah. It is jarring. Gal I knew in HS met up with in college and I'm thinking. 'I know you've met me before...'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:15 AM (bss/y)

38 Q: What's the dumbest thing you've ever done for money?

A: I took out a loan to go to school to get a job to pay off the loan.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

39 Why don’t the schools bear the responsibility of student loans?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (A5RD0)

40 34 My son incurred student debt. Not a "lot" but enough that it took him several years to pay it off while living at home with his mother. He's still there. Not enough left to rent or buy something.

*shrugs*

Choices. Some he made were poor.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (jehhT)

Most current entry level jobs for college grads are not gonna support buying a house in an area. I see nothing wrong with a kid staying home, saving and yet also paying some rent to mom and dad, making sure that when they jump, they jump for good.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (tOcjL)

41 31 Odds paul took the brown acid..
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:13 AM (gbGyB)

I am thinking pony tail with ZZ top beard. And bald spot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (bss/y)

42 But more importantly - Happy birthday, Piper!
Posted by: Boswell at May 25, 2026

Thank you!

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (Wmg4n)

43 It's better to default on your mortgage than on your student loans.

25% penalty of the balance added if you default on the student loan.
With no discharge in bankruptcy.

OTOH, if these are real defaults, I hope it grows.
And destroys the student loan cartel.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (73/SM)

44 Q: What's the dumbest thing you've ever done for money?

A: I took out a loan to go to school to get a job to pay off the loan.


Paid $25 when it's $20 in town.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (Riz8t)

45 38 Q: What's the dumbest thing you've ever done for money?

A: I took out a loan to go to school to get a job to pay off the loan.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 11:15 AM (2Ez/1)

Yeah, the smart ones were Military or who took up a trade to be able to pay for school and then found they could make far more money at the trade without picking up the degree.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:17 AM (bss/y)

46 I went to ROTC. It was fun getting tuition bills for $50. : )

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:17 AM (T6aVk)

47 32

Blind girl?

Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 11:18 AM (RCjYY)

48 Those of us who did college without loans or paid off our debt are already fucked, lets put that aside. No fixing it.
So, even though it benefits a lot of "studies" type liberal arts majors, I propose a twenty five percent or whatever is needed college endowment tax, to payoff all outstanding student loan debt, and such debt never again be considered.
The fact that this would hurt the Ivies and like private schools most compared to state institutions is just a happy little bonus.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (sl73Y)

49 My loans went directly to me, which then went to paying tuition.

After graduating, I had enough left over to order a sweet set of custom set of golf clubs from H&B -- PowerBilt Citations.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (J4Dwc)

50 Colleges should be nationalized and run by the federal government. Free for anyone to attend, even the illegal aliens. If it's good enough for health insurance, it should be good enough for the colleges, and outlaw private universities and colleges.

Call it CollegeCare or CollegeAid or FreeShit4U U.

Posted by: Another Hit From The Bong at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (OoF9t)

51 39 Why don’t the schools bear the responsibility of student loans?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2026 11:16 AM (A5RD0)

Well, for ANY other loan the burden is carried by the bank and the purchaser (the student.) The banks have found ways through the government to shunt their risk, so the student bears almost all of the risk.

It IS odd to expect the manufacturer (in this case the school) to bear the burden for someone buying their product- but there are a lot of industries that have seemed to move into that type of situation. It is perverse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (bss/y)

52 In general according to Wallet Hub the states with highest student debt are Red states
The states with lowest student debt are blue states
Rich states vs poor states.

University of Vermont does have the highest tuition for residents.
But
Free tuition for students from families earning less than $100000
Socialism?

Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (httTc)

53 There's always getting a roommate, or subletting. Or is that sort of thing illegal now? (Not even snark, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bullcrap law on the books in most cities making that kind of arrangement illegal because Racism or Equity or Florpblorp or whatever nonsense they concoct to justify wrecking everything)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (Ot/FD)

54 49 My loans went directly to me, which then went to paying tuition.

After graduating, I had enough left over to order a sweet set of custom set of golf clubs from H&B -- PowerBilt Citations.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (J4Dwc)

Forged?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (bss/y)

55 Speaking of acoustic music, I thought this was interesting. Playing an ancient Greek lyre.

https://tinyurl.com/2ywm8kac

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 11:21 AM (ndZc7)

56 Back in the day, when I graduated college I owed less than $3,000. We learned early on to avoid credit card debt.

You want to never be able to buy a house? Student loans, car loans, credit card debt.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 11:22 AM (qFwJc)

57 Watching a bit of BoB, I think, ok pretty sure, for their realistic try, the night march the guys only had the helmet liners.
Rivots on outside are the giveaway

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:22 AM (Ia/+0)

58 Speaking of acoustic music, I thought this was interesting. Playing an ancient Greek lyre.

https://tinyurl.com/2ywm8kac


Boring! I've substituted a saxaphone.

Posted by: Christopher Nolan at May 25, 2026 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

59 After graduating, I had enough left over to order a sweet set of custom set of golf clubs from H&B -- PowerBilt Citations.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:19 AM (J4Dwc)

I personally think more business descisions get made on the golf course than anywhere else. Good investment.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:23 AM (gbGyB)

60 As usual, Paul makes a big claim, fails utterly to back it up, (WalletHub? Really?) and runs away.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (Riz8t)

61 53 There's always getting a roommate, or subletting. Or is that sort of thing illegal now? (Not even snark, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some bullcrap law on the books in most cities making that kind of arrangement illegal because Racism or Equity or Florpblorp or whatever nonsense they concoct to justify wrecking everything)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (Ot/FD)

Subletting is disallowed in most places...not sure if it's legality or other reasons for the disallowance...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (tOcjL)

62 Forged?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:20 AM (bss/y)

Yes, with persimmon woods

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc)

63 52. Let me take this opportunity to remind people they should not come to poor red states. I will speak specifically of my state- it’s hot garbage here. Raining like crazy, there will no doubt be alligators moving into the puddles just waiting to chomp you. I know a lot of you are sending your kids to SEC schools (Go Dawgs!) but maybe just send them to Vermont where the tuition is paid for by magical college tuition fairies!

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (p4NUW)

64 I personally think more business descisions get made on the golf course than anywhere else. Good investment.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:23 AM (gbGyB)

This checks out.

Posted by: Al Czervik at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (wVcYX)

65 LOL. And if your potential customer catches you cheating at golf, you can kiss that contract goodbye.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (qFwJc)

66 Subletting is disallowed in most places...not sure if it's legality or other reasons for the disallowance...

Most people don't want it in their neighborhood because it attracts the poors and drives down property values. None of the group homes I once lived in were properly maintained.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:26 AM (Riz8t)

67 Yes, with persimmon woods
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc)

I almost regret not getting more into golf. It was relaxing and maddening. But I could never hit a forged club for shit. The toys were too expensive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (bss/y)

68 None of the group homes I once lived in were properly maintained.

Correlation or causation? Discuss.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (Riz8t)

69 Forged

https://tinyurl.com/2up9ba66

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (J4Dwc)

70 69 Forged

https://tinyurl.com/2up9ba66
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (J4Dwc)

Forged clubs are pretty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (bss/y)

71 Shiny.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (bss/y)

72 I had some student loans but not much. I worked two jobs during college and that paid rent and most of tuition. Working constantly while trying to finish my degree was difficult but was helped by being a bad student with terrible study habits and poor impulse control. I guess I meant hurt there. However when all was said and done I walked out with about 5K in loans which seemed like a lot at the time but didn't take very long to pay off with my first real job at Boeing.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (3uBP9)

73 I want a fucking refund. I didn’t default on my student loan. I went back into the military and saved money by living in the barracks and making a $900 payment instead of a $90 payment. I REALLY could use that money now.

When I had to call them directly to get the exact payoff the guy was a little surprised, people don’t pay off their loans decades early, apparently.

Decent, peaceable honorable citizens & Taxpayers are just Chumps. To be fleeced. I hope and pray all these crooks in and out of government die in a fire.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 11:29 AM (NxbtL)

74 Why don’t the schools bear the responsibility of student loans?

When student loans began, they were somewhat reasonable. You didn’t take a loan out from the government, it was from a local bank. I actually talked with the loan guy from the bank. And the amount was not very much. I think all told I ended up with $8,000 in loans, which ends up being about $24,000 in today’s money.

There was no reason for the school to be involved. I took out the loan and I got the money. That amount was quite doable, and was quite doable even though I was just going from odd job to odd job in the nineties figuring out what the hell I was doing.

Over time, schools (and probably students too, I don’t know) learned to game the system. The numbers skyrocketed and at some point, the system went from real loans to fake “loans” that, as far as I can tell, don’t even act as loans. It’s more like indentured servitude to the government.

But we still pretend that it’s the same system of real loans made understanding what the loan meant and that can be paid off in a reasonable time.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:30 AM (kYmoU)

75 If you were to introduce a new test for potential new hires today, you would be exposing yourself to Disparate Impact liability. Even with the full blessing of academia, with published peer-reviewed studies showing the test's demonstrated predictive power for job performance, it would still be at best only a defense to be used in a lawsuit, it would not prevent costly lawsuits in the first place.
But degrees are held to be different, because "tradition". They are, in fact, remarkably terrible predictors of job performance for the vast majority of jobs. They are in no way equitably distributed in terms of race and class. If you invented the university degree today, it would probably be *illegal* to use it as a criterion in hiring.
Part of the recipe for dismantling the student debt trap is to reverse this state of affairs. Let universities show their degree product performance due a given job - otherwise ban its use as a hiring criterion. Reverse our current law on Disparate Impact so employers can create their own skill tests without fear of lawsuits and without needing to beg academia for permission to bypass the latter's credential.

Posted by: DaveL at May 25, 2026 11:31 AM (9w232)

76 But we still pretend that it’s the same system of real loans made understanding what the loan meant and that can be paid off in a reasonable time.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:30 AM (kYmoU)

Huh. Interesting way to look at it. In exchange for one lump payment, the government gets another income stream forever that cannot be released by bankruptcy and if someone pays the min each month, never goes away and is far in excess of the original lump sum.

Yeah, evil.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:32 AM (bss/y)

77 Yeah, the smart ones were Military or who took up a trade to be able to pay for school and then found they could make far more money at the trade without picking up the degree.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:17 AM (bss/y)

Yup. Or if they did go to school, it was to get a degree in a specific skill.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 25, 2026 11:33 AM (g8Ew8)

78 Usually left unstated - the reason student loans are not discharged in bankruptcy is because a huge cottage industry had emerged.

Colleges even offered courses on how to get your law degree and then immediately file for bankruptcy and renege on loan repayment. Congress decided that was not in keeping with the intent of college loan programs.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 11:33 AM (NxbtL)

79 Every once in awhile read how student loans have doubled every few years. No one paying for anything using monopoly money why not charge outrageous fees?

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:34 AM (Ia/+0)

80 Well dang. It seems I must now pay for Grok inquiries by signing up for an account.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:34 AM (Riz8t)

81 >>I could never hit a forged club for shit.

I played a lot in college and for a few years afterward -- got good enough to hit forged irons and ballata-covered balls.

Haven't had the same skills for several decades now, but still enjoy playing in an old fogey league.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:35 AM (J4Dwc)

82 I say put the universities on the hook for these loan defaults because fuck 'em.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 11:35 AM (gKWVE)

83 It isn't a college, that part seems to be still in operation, but the high school part of the Valley Forge Military school shutdown after like 97 years due to high costs, insurance. Roughly it cost $50G a year yo send a student there.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)

84 I'm easily frustrated. And golf seems to be the most frustrating sport. It's like basketball except the basket is a quarter mile away and you don't throw the ball you whack at it with a series of sticks. Yeah,... no.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 11:36 AM (3uBP9)

85 A degree told employers the candidate had a modicum of smarts, discipline and work ethic.

That is no longer true.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 25, 2026 11:38 AM (wBaIH)

86 …and if someone pays the min each month, never goes away and is far in excess of the original lump sum.

Yes, except that (others here will be more knowledgeable than I) I think the “loan” does go away after a specific period of time if certain conditions are meant, regardless of how much “remains” in the loan.

It gets ”forgiven”, an odd term given the rest of what goes on in the system.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (kYmoU)

87 A degree told employers the candidate had a modicum of smarts, discipline and work ethic.

That is no longer true.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 25, 2026 11:38 AM (wBaIH)

Truth.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (g8Ew8)

88 84 I'm easily frustrated. And golf seems to be the most frustrating sport. It's like basketball except the basket is a quarter mile away and you don't throw the ball you whack at it with a series of sticks. Yeah,... no.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 25, 2026 11:36 AM (3uBP9)

1) Outside.
2) Difficult. You watch someone who's really good and feel like a clumsy buffoon (think Fred Couples.) So it takes effort and body control to get good (barring Daly.)
3) The toys add a level of OCD obsession.
4) You can drink while playing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (bss/y)

89 Thx Buck.
Make the colleges and universities pay half the loans out of their endowments. Then fire half of the administrative staff.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 11:39 AM (hpwtA)

90 And those are the costs for some podunk 4 year school.

The bigs, Notre Dame, Haahvaahhd, Yale, etc. will cost around 400-500k.

It's absurd, completely and utterly absurd.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (XV/Pl)

91 I took out a small student loan in college mainly to buy car to get me back and forth to school. I paid for my own college but took 6 years. I would go back home and work in the oil refinery during the day and manage a pizza parlor at night for 6 months then go back to college. Rinse and repeat until graduation.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (IYeV+)

92 A few uears ago there was a published list of colleges that would go under. Plenty of brand names, including Fordham.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (wBaIH)

93 A degree told employers the candidate had a modicum of smarts, discipline and work ethic.

That is no longer true.


Now it tells them the candidate has novelty pronouns, wants to free Palestine, and thinks Kamala is super smart.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 11:40 AM (QZThv)

94 I skipped the whole school thing and went straight to the endless string of bad jobs part.
I am however about 20 months from debt free.
Not because of anything I did. I'm a moron. I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:42 AM (gbGyB)

95
GI Bill. That's how kids should be paying for college. What Smash & I both used to get our Master's degrees. At the end, I was $5k short, and got a student loan for that amount. Smash's was similar.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 25, 2026 11:42 AM (QVmho)

96 Full freight at Fordham will cost you over 400k.

It's ranked around 100.

Crazy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:42 AM (XV/Pl)

97 Go after the endowments.

Colleges and universities are selling a bill of goods, coasting off long histories while now providing a lemon education (like cars, not fit for purpose). Think of all the "Studies" courses, including the ones for actively-living entertainers.

Also, colleges are bearing almost no risk while reaping all the benefits. They get paid whether the student "lears" or not. Whether they graduate or flunk out. Even if the student should never have been accepted because they never graduated highschool at an actual high-school level, regardless of the piece of paper their principal gave.

The colleges get their money. The banks are on the hook. Except no, the banks get their money because the students can never default or go bankrupt.

And the students HAD to get a college degree because that became mandatory on resumes to get a decent job. Because employers couldn't test candidates, because RAAAACISM, so the degree became the replacement test.

Posted by: Another Anon at May 25, 2026 11:43 AM (4h45B)

98 I would go back home and work in the oil refinery during the day and manage a pizza parlor at night for 6 months then go back to college. Rinse and repeat until graduation.

I have a cousin who did the same, but as a trucker. He liked it so much he almost did it full-time after college. Probably a good thing he chose not to given how the trucking industry has been coopted by the illegal alien industry. The ruling class loves their indentured servants and continually find new ways to manufacture them.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:43 AM (kYmoU)

99 Not because of anything I did. I'm a moron. I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money.

The fact that you recognize where you don't shine and your partner does, and your resultant willingness to let her be in charge of that aspect suggests strongly that you are NOT a moron.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

100 Back in the day, you could attend CUNY, pay for it out of your pocket and live on your own in an apartment on minimum f***ing wage.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (XV/Pl)

101 Boon: I gotta work on my game.

Otter: No, no, no, don't think of it as work. The whole point is just to enjoy yourself.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (wVcYX)

102 The fact that you recognize where you don't shine and your partner does, and your resultant willingness to let her be in charge of that aspect suggests strongly that you are NOT a moron.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

Objection! He comments here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (bss/y)

103 I eschew the concept of debt. Paid my way through college back when it was affordable. We paid for our kids college (UT and A&M) while they went through and the fees started to skyrocket circa 2002 or so, that last year was painful. I can't imagine what it is now. Haven't had any debt of any kind in over 20 years.
Did I mention I hate debt?

Posted by: DanMan at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (8uzBS)

104 You can view it as idyllic, but in the sense of survival of the species, keeping the women away from harm is the obvious thing to do. One man can impregnate lots of women, but children are generated one woman at a time. Face it guys, we're much more expendable.
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This argument only makes sense in a polygamous society.

So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war?
(and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol)

But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway.
On the other side, the sexual revolution wasn't the hippy boomers, it started long before, when the post-war women had to compete for the good men remaining.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (73/SM)

105 D'Oh! Another climate change narrative bites the increasingly scarce dust.

Harsh climate scenarios have spent decades painting Earth's likely future landscape as dystopian, dark, barren and forbidding.

Yet, recent physical data argues exactly the opposite. Instead of plunging the planet into chaos, it's becoming eye-catchingly greener - and CO₂ is the key. The formal models predicted a scorched planet, but NASA satellites unleashed a world that is biologically thriving. This silent miracle of global greening isn't some theory, it's the physical reality captured by the orbiting space platforms; MODIS instruments on NASA's Terra and Aqua satellites.


https://tinyurl.com/3ycmdcff

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (Riz8t)

106 70 69 Forged

https://tinyurl.com/2up9ba66
Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:27 AM (J4Dwc)

Forged clubs are pretty.


especially when they're lovingly drop-forged out of melamine by slave labor.

Posted by: xi the pooh at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (qdr3M)

107 I went to a decent school, I don’t regret my undergrad or grad degree. I managed my career obsessively and I did well. It’s not impossible, but I do think you need to ensure you are looking at degrees in real subjects and being realistic in salary expectations on the front end. Or even what the salary pays for your chosen field.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (p4NUW)

108 I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money.

This used to be what was called a “traditional marriage”. Probably related to why something called “home economics” was taught in high schools and was mostly taken by girls.

Then “home economics” went away and instead of half the populating knowing how to run a household, no one did.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:47 AM (kYmoU)

109 But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway.

Your argument presupposes that only losers who can't get women are in the military. I don't agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (Riz8t)

110 I'd say Animal House, Airplane and Blazing Saddles are the three greatest comedies, and they came out within 6 years of each other.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (XV/Pl)

111 So in my 44 years since matriculation it appears that the cost of college is not the cost of education, but the cost of rules, regulations, diversity, equity, and inclusion.

The administration required to write the rules, enforce the standards, punish the innocent, and reward the lawless is most likely 3X to 4X the cost of teaching.

And that my friends, is in no way, a real education.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (/+uur)

112 Objection! He comments here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (bss/y)

I'm the original moron.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (gbGyB)

113 The best and simplest way to stop the explosive growth in student debt is to reverse Obama's policy in 2010 that effectively was a government takeover of the student loan program. Some of us warned at the time this would happen but we were ignored because the Lightbringer knew better.

In fact, I believe this was exactly what Obama intended because it was so obvious what would happen. When government started handing out loans to anyone with a pulse and guaranteeing them colleges did exactly what was expected and raised prices. A lot.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (viF8m)

114 So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war?
(and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol)


Is polygamy ideal? Of course not. But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (Riz8t)

115 The administration required to write the rules, enforce the standards, punish the innocent, and reward the lawless is most likely 3X to 4X the cost of teaching.

Yeah. We can laugh at the days when “administration” was made up mostly of faculty forced to do a job they’d never been trained for. But at least they tended to focus on things that involved teaching and it gave them insight into how the administration—which is technically the link between faculty and the real world—worked.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (kYmoU)

116 This argument only makes sense in a polygamous society.

So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war?
(and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol)

But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway.
On the other side, the sexual revolution wasn't the hippy boomers, it started long before, when the post-war women had to compete for the good men remaining.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:46 AM (73/SM)

Maybe in Europe does that hold true. But the American war demographic was very much different. Plenty of men came back to claim the women.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (g8Ew8)

117 But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted.

“The species” is overrated, and destroying Gaia. We’re better off without it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (kYmoU)

118 Not because of anything I did. I'm a moron. I gave the wife full financial control some 30 years ago and she's a wizard with money.

same, I recall she wanted a newer car. I figured I could call my state employee credit union on Monday and get a loan. DanMa'am whips out a couple of checkbooks and paid for it on the spot.

Posted by: DanMan at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (8uzBS)

119 Is polygamy ideal? Of course not. But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted.

I direct you to a documentary, Doctor Strangelove.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:52 AM (Riz8t)

120
In fact, I believe this was exactly what Obama intended because it was so obvious what would happen. When government started handing out loans to anyone with a pulse and guaranteeing them colleges did exactly what was expected and raised prices. A lot.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 11:50 AM (viF8m)

Because it made it far more lucrative to run the schools (commies) and the schools in turn churn out nasty little ideologues (commies.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:52 AM (bss/y)

121 One of my kids is buying their first home, under the age of 40 by a few years, it has taken this long to pay off student loans.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (0nHVk)

122 “The species” is overrated, and destroying Gaia. We’re better off without it.

That'll be enough out of you, zombie Paul Ehrlich.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

123 I majored in golf and minored in poker, also took enough classes to graduate.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (J4Dwc)

124 117 But when the survival of the species is at stake, it will be accepted.

“The species” is overrated, and destroying Gaia. We’re better off without it.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:51 AM (kYmoU)

Which very well may be where you land if your harem includes multiples of me.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:53 AM (p4NUW)

125 Burn coal. It's organic.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 11:54 AM (guBvG)

126 Then “home economics” went away and instead of half the populating knowing how to run a household, no one did.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 25, 2026 11:47 AM (kYmoU)

My senior year I took home ec as it was outside of the business school and therefore an Elective I needed.
You had to tech a 15 minute lesson to make and A in the class.
I taught a class on house financing. Even the prof loved the class and invited me to teach the class again the next semester (I gave her my slide deck).
It helped me about 10 years later as I bought a house with 2 loans to skip PMI and the savings paid the second personal loan off in about 5 years.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 11:54 AM (/+uur)

127 Because it made it far more lucrative to run the schools (commies) and the schools in turn churn out nasty little ideologues (commies.)

Also schools had become a jobs program for left-wing terrorists like Ayers and Dohrn.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 11:54 AM (QZThv)

128 #60
I cited my source WalletHub
Did you bother to check?
What did you find?
Dunning Kroger

Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:54 AM (dROkN)

129 Kroger?

Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (bss/y)

130 >>Because it made it far more lucrative to run the schools (commies) and the schools in turn churn out nasty little ideologues (commies.)

I've seen numerous reports on the ideological leanings of professors in universities and colleges. Most schools always bent a little to the left but now they are almost universally hard left. There are almost zero self-identified conservatives left in many schools.

And we see the results. They are now indoctrination centers for the far left.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (viF8m)

131 It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.

Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please

Anyway as I was saying….

- 27 year old

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (nwGCR)

132 #128
I'm not here to do your work for you. When you make a claim, include a link, or STFU. This is not a difficult concept. But congrats on actually responding. It's outside your usual MO.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (Riz8t)

133 On the Obama loans notice that it is now the standard claim of every (D) candidate to FORGIVE the loans.

The State Takeover was created to make Big Govt a player that can hand out favors for more votes.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (/+uur)

134 100 Back in the day, you could attend CUNY, pay for it out of your pocket and live on your own in an apartment on minimum f***ing wage.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (XV/Pl)

Those days are long gone, and a lot of people need to stop pretending they aren't. Our Betters™ made this system what it is now and folks better wake up. And we don't need a half million Chinese to prop up this shit deal that's fucking Americans over, we need these worthless diploma machines to die off to the point they are forced to make college degrees worth something again.

Posted by: Doesn't have a catchy acronym though at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (TbWk/)

135 On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor.

Next time I will try shredding some carrot in.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (rbvCR)

136 The higher tax rates and higher incomes of blue states make it easier for those blue states to offer discounted college tuition in their State universities to families with lower incomes

Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:58 AM (dROkN)

137 135 On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor.

Next time I will try shredding some carrot in.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 11:57 AM (rbvCR)

Huh. Caffeine Jello shots.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:58 AM (bss/y)

138 Your argument presupposes that only losers who can't get women are in the military. I don't agree.
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Not at all.
When there is a surplus of men, they have to compete for the women.
Joining the army is a good way to up your value.
Fighting in a war is even better. So these young men may agitate for war.
Biological risk-reward; considered worth it even to top reproductive prospects.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (73/SM)

139 112 Objection! He comments here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:45 AM (bss/y)
I'm the original moron.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 11:48 AM (gbGyB)

I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons?

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ)

140 Posted by: Paul at May 25, 2026 11:58 AM (dROkN)

Or illegal immigrants. So, the commies get rich by exploiting the poors. So egalitarian.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (bss/y)

141 One of can't even read.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:00 PM (guBvG)

142 Gen X will soon be playing the Role of Emmanuel Goldstein.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Gqar8)

143 Heard a caller to Dave Ramsey once who had just flunked out of medical school and had $250k of medical school loans to pay off.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Cqx++)

144 When there is a surplus of men, they have to compete for the women.
Joining the army is a good way to up your value.
Fighting in a war is even better. So these young men may agitate for war.
Biological risk-reward; considered worth it even to top reproductive prospects.


Unless you're one of those killed in combat. You said exactly that.

But, TBH, wars just kill off the surplus men who weren't likely reproducing anyway.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Riz8t)

145 I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons?
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ)

It goes way back to "new comment thingy".
You had to be there.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (gbGyB)

146 The median (not average) student t loan debt at graduation is $30k. Not $300k like the media would have you believe.

Are there edge cases of $300k? Sure. But that’s just a stupid thing to do. In my state, even with no scholarships or aid, one can get a degree in state tuition, room and board, the works for about $20k a year. Work part time during school, and full time in summer and at worst you’re $40k in debt at graduation. And almost everyone gets some kind of aid/scholarship.

That’s one option. Or you can go to a $70k a year private school and graduate with $250k debt. If you choose tho option well sorry I have no sympathy for you.

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (nwGCR)

147 So I guess it's an argument, that, if woman want monogamy and marriage, they'll have to be willing to die in war?
(and I'm not too sure of how many men want a harem, lol)

This only works for Kings and other types of despots who can have them beheaded or imprisoned for disrespect, cheating, fighting, frigidity, etc. Otherwise it would be a neverending cycle of them giving you headaches and them having "headaches."

Posted by: Not appealing to an ordinary guy at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (TbWk/)

148 Band of Brothers is on AMC. Still great TV

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (hpwtA)

149 Savings is destroyed by inflation. Stocks is a casino. Bonds are a Ponzi scheme.

"save for the future kids, you can get 3.8% interest and that will set you up just fine because the official inflation rate is 3.8% and you just have to pay the taxes on the interest income"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (rbvCR)

150
Gen X will soon be playing the Role of Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: tubal


We boomers will be glad to pass that torch.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:02 PM (Cqx++)

151 143 Heard a caller to Dave Ramsey once who had just flunked out of medical school and had $250k of medical school loans to pay off.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:01 PM (Cqx++)

You're right fucked.
-Mirror Universe Dave Ramsey

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (bss/y)

152 The Marxists promised free education, and the Auto-Pen administration tried to give them that
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (Ia/+0)


The Marxists demanded that the Proles labor to provide them their desires, and the Auto-Pen administration tried to give them that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (ExV1e)

153 Gen X will soon be playing the Role of Emmanuel Goldstein.

Gen X gets ignored for everything. I've already seen indications of Goldstein status skipping over to the Millennials.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (QZThv)

154 That shot that leaves a scar seems to keep many of them from reaching 50.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (guBvG)

155 Back in the day, you could attend CUNY, pay for it out of your pocket and live on your own in an apartment on minimum f***ing wage.
--
An old attorney I knew told me how he attended University of Texas, the only law school in the state at the time IIRC, for ... $25 ... a semester.
Not per class, per semester.

IDK what it is now, but if it's $25k a semester, I'd not be surprised.

I like the ouroboros of colleges producing worthless degrees then hiring those worthless degrees to produce more worthless degrees.
See Yale having more admin than students now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:03 PM (73/SM)

156 I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons?
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ)

Exactly. quod erat demonstrandum.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:04 PM (bss/y)

157 I went Gault six years ago.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:04 PM (guBvG)

158 On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor.

Coffee jelly (basically coffee Jello) is a popular dessert in Japan.

Posted by: Learned from Saiki K. at May 25, 2026 12:04 PM (TbWk/)

159 102 The fact that you recognize where you don't shine and your partner does, and your resultant willingness to let her be in charge of that aspect suggests strongly that you are NOT a moron.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

Objection! He comments here.

Double Objection!! Commenting here makes him a Moron

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (/enuJ)

160 It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.

Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please

Anyway as I was saying….

- 27 year old
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 11:56 AM (nwGCR)


Now, now.

That parts true but we didn't have Blackrock buying up family homes by the gross and driving up p[rices as they reduce supply, We didn't have the double whammy of both Obama and Biden murdering the economy, we didn't have Biden driving inflation to insane levels, we didn't have rampant uncontrolled gov't funding of open borders and illegal aliens to eat up apartments and homes again reducing supply.

I feel sorry for them however, they do keep voting for Democrats, who murder their economic welfare with insane taxation, which is weird but that's what I see and hear from most young folks of family and house buying age.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (iJfKG)

161 The yuutes are lumping GenX and boomers together now. Basically anyone older than them (even some millennial) are boomers. When it’s pointed out to them it’s retarded to call a 45 year old a boomer,, they reply with “yeah well they have a boomer mindset”.

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (nwGCR)

162 Blaming others for one’s shit circumstances has been a standard practice for forever. I suppose there’s a reason for it to be so prevalent.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (Gqar8)

163 Norman: Coordinate!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:05 PM (bss/y)

164 Reminds me of a real Star Trek episode.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (guBvG)

165 Blackrock owns less that 1% of homes in the US. More like 0.1%. Can we please stop with that?

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (nwGCR)

166 Something completely different:

Gal cosplaying as Velma.

https://tinyurl.com/45pftewk

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:07 PM (bss/y)

167 The big companies manage far more residential realestate than they own.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:07 PM (guBvG)

168 Isn't it Blackstone or something that Blackrock has a controlling interest in?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (bss/y)

169 You let 10s of millions of illegals into the country and guess what happens to the price of housing.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (viF8m)

170 135 On a whim, because I had gelatin and coffee right there, I made coffee jello.
I must say, I probably should have mixed some half-and-half in with it. It is however the most efficient way to get a caffeine buzz if you don't care much about the flavor.


have you considered a suppository?

Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M)

171 Garnish their wages and seize their assets. Anyone who took out loans is responsible for their debt. I'm sick of these grifting brats with their brand new phones and expensive lattes

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (kJmLc)

172 I've seen numerous reports on the ideological leanings of professors in universities and colleges. Most schools always bent a little to the left but now they are almost universally hard left. There are almost zero self-identified conservatives left in many schools.
--
There's now a chart that shows how hard left the "blue" jobs are vs. how hard right the "red" jobs are.

And it's not just how much more left the blue ones are, 90% plus with no job similarly skewed on the right, it's that they now don't even include moderates.
Colleges and all the social science jobs have driven out even the moderates, let alone the conservatives.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (73/SM)

173 163 Norman: Coordinate!

cartesian coordinate > norman coordinate

Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (qdr3M)

174 have you considered a suppository?
Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M)

Butt chugging hot black coffee seems like a poor idea.

Unless you are Pete Buttigeg and it's a euphemism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (bss/y)

175 I find it so weird how young people are obsessed with people older than them. When I was in my 20s I had zero views on “old people”. I didn’t care what my boss made either. My focus was on what I made and what I had to do to make more.

The kids have been brainwashed by the left into an us vs them mentality. It’s corrosive.

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (nwGCR)

176 Blackrock owns less that 1% of homes in the US. More like 0.1%. Can we please stop with that?
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (nwGCR)


How many of the housing coming on the market is bid up by investment companies looking for safe haven for their money? That is more important that who owns it.

"the price of gold is not based on how much there is or who owns it, the price of gold is based on what people are willing to pay to get more of it"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:09 PM (rbvCR)

177 I love HGTV shows, but I wonder if they have set up a very unrealistic expectation of home buying. My first house was 1200sq feet - 3 beds. 2 baths, kitchen and a very small living room.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (p4NUW)

178 Bad decisions lead to bad consequences. That’s the part that gets a lot of people to stamping their little feet. Just another variation of “ It’s Not Fair”!

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (Gqar8)

179 156 I mostly lurk but, I thought the hoard was comprised of Morons?
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 25, 2026 11:59 AM (/enuJ)

Exactly. quod erat demonstrandum.


quod erat is best erat

Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (qdr3M)

180 Who speaks Elvish?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (guBvG)

181 Exactly. quod erat demonstrandum.

quod erat is best erat
Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (qdr3M)

Can't get the D without the Q & E!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (bss/y)

182
Blackrock owns less that 1% of homes in the US. More like 0.1%. Can we please stop with that?
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:06 PM (nwGCR)


No.

Even if that's true. Blackrock doesn't pull out a huge map and say, "Oh, look we haven't bought 1% of the homes in Frog's Butt, Alabama. Time to get one.'

No, Blackrock buys family homes in high demand areas, which magnifies the problem and the cost factors.

That's one of those meaningless statistics because it doesn't tell the circumstances so it's basically a lie.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (iJfKG)

183 177 I love HGTV shows, but I wonder if they have set up a very unrealistic expectation of home buying. My first house was 1200sq feet - 3 beds. 2 baths, kitchen and a very small living room.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 12:10 PM (p4NUW)

And as Ace pointed out, brat seem to think they need expensive ingredients and cookware to make simple meals or that simple meals are beneath them.

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (kJmLc)

184 Who speaks Elvish?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (guBvG)

Elvish hash left the building, man.

Posted by: Uh huh at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (TbWk/)

185 180 Who speaks Elvish?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:11 PM (guBvG)

Go to a Renaissance Faire, or a Comic-con.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (Gqar8)

186 How many of the housing coming on the market is bid up by investment companies looking for safe haven for their money? That is more important that who owns it.


Much less than you think. The vast majority of “investors” are mom and pop landlords who own a condo or two and rent out. It’s not the big bad evil Wall St investors.


Small Investors (1–5 homes): Account for about 85% of all investor-owned properties.

Mid-Tier Investors (6–10 properties): Make up another 5%.

Institutional Investors (1,000+ homes): Account for only about 2.2% of investor-owned homes,

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (nwGCR)

187 My first instinct on these student loans is to say "no duh" to people with a philosophy major or equivalent, but I do find a modicum of sympathy at times for 18 year olds who were sold a bill of goods, go to college and you'll be totally successful. As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.

Not to mention plenty of studies that say federal student loans actually increase tuition.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (n5tGW)

188 It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.

Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please

--

Don't forget the $500 iPhones. But I will say, as a mom of a 29-year old, it's very hard to save for a down payment for a mortgage when you're shelling out in the neighborhood of $1100-1500/mo. for a small apartment.

We let Jr. Black move home for a couple years to get him out of that burning money pit of apartment living. He'll likely be able to get a really good down payment on a house in the next few months when he's 30. He'll be in a lot better shape than many in his age bracket. It doesn't hurt that his student loans were paid off. He didn't take out exorbitant loans for a stupid, useless degree. He has a master's in accounting, and both he and Mr. Black and I helped him zero out his college loans.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (qBdHI)

189 have you considered a suppository?
Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (qdr3M)


Just hook it to my veins, man.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (rbvCR)

190 Millions killed is too overwhelming a statistic.

One vacant chair is heartbreaking.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the star spangled banner still waves at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (0poB+)

191 169 You let 10s of millions of illegals into the country and guess what happens to the price of housing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (viF8m)

Precisely. And let foreigners take a great number of college slots and ore bullshit ensues.

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (kJmLc)

192 I feel sorry for them however, they do keep voting for Democrats, who murder their economic welfare with insane taxation, which is weird but that's what I see and hear from most young folks of family and house buying age.
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Consider that since Reagan's "a choice not a echo" most of the elected Republicans have offered ... the echo, I can see why.
And look at severely conservative conservatives of ... Cassidy, Tillis, Cornyn et al.
They are third and forth reverbs of the echo.

Trump, MAGA and America First are the choice.
yet another reason Republicans hate him.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (73/SM)

193 As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.

Truth. If companies are smart, they'll start hiring those people who went to college and got real degrees in challenging subjects instead of coasting.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (Riz8t)

194 Right. They form local monopolies where there is demand. Not everywhere. We have one locally. Buying up things and running others they don't own. You wind up paying big city rent.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:15 PM (guBvG)

195 I am not really comfortable with the “ Conservative” label anymore.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:15 PM (Gqar8)

196 Investors buying that unloved house, prettying it up, and making it a rental or a resale add about 1.5% market value to all houses with 4 or 5 blocks within the next year.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 12:15 PM (/+uur)

197 Go to a Renaissance Faire, or a Comic-con.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (Gqar

Hell no.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (gbGyB)

198 I love HGTV shows, but I wonder if they have set up a very unrealistic expectation of home buying.

Depends heavily on the specific show. And I applaud those expectations to the extent that it really pisses off the Marxist urbanists who want to cram everyone into a box.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (QZThv)

199 Don't forget the $500 iPhone



$500? That’s was like 10 years ago.

More like $1500 today.

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (nwGCR)

200 188 It’s so hard saving for a house. Fucking boomers.

Oh yeah sure I’ll have another $11 latte, add a $9 croissant to that as well please


We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (kJmLc)

201 Not to mention plenty of studies that say federal student loans actually increase tuition.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (n5tGW)

Now do ethanol and corn.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (/+uur)

202 My Samsungs are under $50.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (guBvG)

203 197 Go to a Renaissance Faire, or a Comic-con.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:12 PM (Gqar

Hell no.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (gbGyB)

Heh. It is an - interesting - anthropological excursion.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (Gqar8)

204 Precisely. And let foreigners take a great number of college slots and ore bullshit ensues.

Insty ran a story yesterday on new data showing 2/3rds of Silicon Valley jobs are held by non-citizens.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (QZThv)

205 We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (kJmLc)


Don't hate your children, they will be the ones who visit you most in the nursing home.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (rbvCR)

206 We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain

Y'all didn't slap around the hippies, which led to Obama, which led to the pain.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:18 PM (QZThv)

207 What about furigners paying instate tuition.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:18 PM (guBvG)

208 Insty ran a story yesterday on new data showing 2/3rds of Silicon Valley jobs are held by non-citizens.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (QZThv)

Time to cancel all H1-Bs and put a hard limit of foreigners in or universities. NONE of them were built by India, China or eurotrash

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:19 PM (kJmLc)

209 206 We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain

Y'all didn't slap around the hippies, which led to Obama, which led to the pain.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:18 PM (QZThv)

Some WERE the hippies, but Some changed over time. It happens.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:19 PM (Gqar8)

210 $500? That’s was like 10 years ago.

More like $1500 today.
Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (nwGCR)

I got a good samsung for... $350 a couple years ago. A53? Did not quite have the camera of the S or as much storage space, but it was $600 cheaper and the specs were remarkably similar to my eye.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:20 PM (bss/y)

211 187 My first instinct on these student loans is to say "no duh" to people with a philosophy major or equivalent, but I do find a modicum of sympathy at times for 18 year olds who were sold a bill of goods, go to college and you'll be totally successful. As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.

Not to mention plenty of studies that say federal student loans actually increase tuition.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:13 PM (n5tGW)

It's easy to say yeah it's a bunch of stupid entitled kids making stupid decisions, but they're also being gaslit and defrauded. They spend their entire childhoods being indoctrinated by their parents, teachers, employers, the government and broader culture, that they MUST get a degree if they want a good job and have a successful life. So they believe it. They go into debt to get that degree to get a good job and a successful life. Then they discover that it wasn't true. They're slinging Starbucks the same as if they didn't have the degree, except now they have 30,60, 90 thousand dollars in debt that will take a decade or two to pay off and that can't be discharged in bankruptcy.

Posted by: Screwed for doing what they were taught was the right thing at May 25, 2026 12:20 PM (TbWk/)

212 I kinda think, and I don't know how to test this, that if you bought a tract of land and built 1200sqft houses and sold them at $100k (just under $85/foot) you'd go bankrupt 'cause
1) no one would buy them, or
2) no bank would finance them

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM)

213 Don't hate your children, they will be the ones who visit you most in the nursing home.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:17 PM (rbvCR)

I raised by three to work while in school, refused to contribute to bullshit degrees, and gave them $0.00 for downpayments. The idea was "you stand on your own and if you fall, YOU pick yourself up and pay your way"

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (kJmLc)

214 187 My first instinct on these student loans is to say "no duh" to people with a philosophy major or equivalent, but I do find a modicum of sympathy at times for 18 year olds who were sold a bill of goods, go to college and you'll be totally successful. As it turns out, even the learn to code and many STEM students are going to be screwed.

programmer with a philosophy degree here. made it through school without any student debt.

Posted by: anachronda at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (qdr3M)

215 I manage a couple of late 20-something’s. Both of them are married have kids and own a home. However what they have in common is they don’t live in expensive coastal cities. They live in flyover country.

The meme is nobody can afford a home. What they really mean is nobody in a handful of coastal blue shitholes can afford a home. Yeah kinda tough to afford a home in San Francisco or Seattle. Go to Dallas or Atlanta or Charlotte and you can afford a home.

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (nwGCR)

216 New houses are. too big and expensive.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (guBvG)

217 We fucking boomers saved to buy homes, decided to forego flashy trips and don't need the latest phones and food. Zillennials deserve their pain
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:16 PM (kJmLc)


The inflation created by money printing has destroyed most of the reason to save for the future, a penny saved is a penny eaten by inflation and fees.
Inflation diverts the focus from long term to short term economics, if only to make sure the money keeps its worth.
Inflation destroys futures and destroys virtue.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (rbvCR)

218 >>Frog's Butt, Alabama

Also known as Elberta. Great food at the Roadkill Cafe.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 12:24 PM (J4Dwc)

219 They spend their entire childhoods being indoctrinated by their parents, teachers, employers, the government and broader culture, that they MUST get a degree if they want a good job and have a successful life.
---
College degree became a high-caste marker decoupled from actual income.

One thing the lefties hated Charlie for was saying that a college degree was worthless.
Oh how that made them howl in anger and derision.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:24 PM (73/SM)

220 A lot of people keep their kids weak and dependent by funding them well into adulthood. If you cover their mortgage, they waste their money on bullshit and stay infantile. It's ok if they don't get a fancy vacay and flashy accessories. If you refuse to set limits and enforce them, you create entitled trash.

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:24 PM (kJmLc)

221 A major cure would be the full privatization of student loans. Good luck.
Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 11:12 AM (T6aVk)


A full 20 Republican Senators stand ready to vote with the Democrats to prevent this assault on the fundamental structure of the nation. -- Ted Cruz

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 12:25 PM (ExV1e)

222 Open thread Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 12:25 PM (bss/y)

223 Good friends just built a house not to far from us. He’s 27, good job, she’s 27 good job. No kids. His Dad helped them in the construction, he worked on it all the time in his spare time. It does happen.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 12:25 PM (Gqar8)

224 I first entered the home buying market when the interest was 12%. I also didn't demand my first house be a McMansion in an upper class neighborhood.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (qrzX6)

225 It’s not just the phones and lattes. Travel too. They’re obsessed with traveling. Which fine whatever. But you can’t have everything. Wanna see the world? Awesome. But you don’t get to do that at 25 and buy home.

This is the fundamental problem the kids have. They don’t understand tradeoffs.

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (nwGCR)

226 Inflation destroys futures and destroys virtue.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:22 PM (rbvCR)

In 1980, Inflation was 14.8 percent. I saved and bought a home anyway. sort of a dumb argument

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (kJmLc)

227 Saw at a apartment complex was working in very recently, rent was above $3G a month

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (Ia/+0)

228 191 169 You let 10s of millions of illegals into the country and guess what happens to the price of housing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:08 PM (viF8m)

Precisely. And let foreigners take a great number of college slots and ore bullshit ensues.
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:14 PM (kJmLc)

Yup. Was just going to mention that.

Posted by: Joemarine at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (y171U)

229 In 1980, Inflation was 14.8 percent. I saved and bought a home anyway. sort of a dumb argument
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (kJmL

Selfishly I'd like to have 12% CD rates again.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (qrzX6)

230 Inflation has always existed. Blaming that for inability to self control is silly.

Posted by: Heroq at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (nwGCR)

231 I don't know if you could build a 1200 sq ft house with land for $100k. Internet tells me just the house averages $135/sf.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (n5tGW)

232 One thing the lefties hated Charlie for was saying that a college degree was worthless.
Oh how that made them howl in anger and derision.


He's correct. If you have the skills and can get around the "degree proves you can do the job" gate you'll be fine.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (QZThv)

233 212 I kinda think, and I don't know how to test this, that if you bought a tract of land and built 1200sqft houses and sold them at $100k (just under $85/foot) you'd go bankrupt 'cause
1) no one would buy them, or
2) no bank would finance them
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM)

3) you can't build a 1200 sqft home for under $100,000.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (gbGyB)

234 224 I first entered the home buying market when the interest was 12%. I also didn't demand my first house be a McMansion in an upper class neighborhood.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:26 PM (qrzX6)

Yep. And small homes still exist. Brats don't want that. They want a 3500 sq ft home and money for European vacays and they cry like babies when that is not in their reach. LOSERS

Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (kJmLc)

235 "There are two debt trends that intersect at about the age of 40. This is the average age now of first-time mortgage borrowers, and it is also the average age of those defaulting on their student loans."

So many begin college at 18 & graduate at 22 or 23,
why - if a standard college/university degree - about an entire decade and a half later default?

I know many teachers in PA who got Masters Degrees in Children's Theater, etc. so that they could qualify to teach elementary school and receive a much higher salary, but then dragged their feet paying their student loans.

Here are but a few programs most eventually took advantage of:
Federal Teacher Loan Forgiveness: Offers up to $17,500 in forgiveness for teaching full-time for five consecutive years in a designated low-income school.
Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF): Forgives the remaining balance on your Direct Loans after making 120 qualifying monthly payments while working full-time for a qualifying public school.
Perkins Loan Cancellation: Offers up to 100% cancellation for Federal Perkins Loans if you teach at a low-income school or in high-need fields like math, science, or special education.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (NFX2v)

236 There are similar programs for public service employees, nurses, yada yada.
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Recently, under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act signed by President Trump, the Department of Education created a dual-tier federal loan limit for graduate students based on their degree classification.

Effective July 1, 2026, the new rules eliminate Grad PLUS loans and set two distinct borrowing categories:
Professional Degrees: Capped at $50,000 annually with a $200,000 lifetime limit. Qualifying degrees include Medicine (M.D.), Law (J.D.), Dentistry (D.D.S.), Pharmacy, and Clinical Psychology.

Educational & Graduate Degrees: Capped at $20,500 annually with a $100,000 lifetime limit. This tier includes fields like nursing, education, social work, and general graduate studies.

See Ed dot gov: Myth vs. Fact: The Definition of Professional Degrees, November 24, 2025
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BTW, many years ago, the Federal government paid the tuition for many graduate programs if a certain GPA was maintained. Ergo, there were more Masters of Public Health than you can imagine for feds working in entirely unrelated fields. Worthless.

(The same can be found through state governments.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (NFX2v)

237 I kinda think, and I don't know how to test this, that if you bought a tract of land and built 1200sqft houses and sold them at $100k (just under $85/foot) you'd go bankrupt 'cause
1) no one would buy them, or
2) no bank would finance them
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 12:21 PM (73/SM)

3) you can't build a 1200 sqft home for under $100,000.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 12:28 PM (gbGyB

Prefab is the only way.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:29 PM (qrzX6)

238 In 1980, Inflation was 14.8 percent. I saved and bought a home anyway. sort of a dumb argument
Posted by: night lifted at May 25, 2026 12:27 PM (kJmLc)


I will admit that you are right if you go find out what the average wage is for the job you held in 1980 is now, and what the average home price is in an equivalent neighborhood, and then draw up a monthly budget for the sort of family you had then now, with vague pricing for food and for the mortgage, insurance and automobile.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:30 PM (rbvCR)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

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Mending The Flag
Norman Rockwell

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 /plants mended flag

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (N5734)

2 Is that legal?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Kt19C)

3 Love this

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (znREB)

4 nice

Posted by: doug at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Hy+R4)

5 Superman's mom

Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (ZxPkt)

6 I always found it oddly, but appropriately, disturbing to say --and or wish anyone -- a "Happy Memorial Day."

Nice selection, CBD!

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (OLFlC)

7 Heavens to Betsy!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (X3i+d)

8 Perfect... A Blessed Memorial Day to you all.....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (FtULh)

9 It's a grand old flag....

Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (XuXeR)

10 Get it? Because Betsy Ross

OK, the old lady here isn't Betsy Ross, but you know....

Posted by: Pete in Texas at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (X3i+d)

11 A lovely painting for Memorial Day. The hat suggests Sewing Lady's husband was a Union officer. This must be set around 1900 if he's still alive, or maybe a little later if she's got the hat out to remind herself of him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (wzUl9)

12 Knit one, pearl two...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (jehhT)

13 A beautiful sentiment, and a good choice for the day. Thanks CBD.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:35 AM (PSpan)

14 Why would it be illegal?

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 09:36 AM (Ia/+0)

15 6 You wish someone a “good” or “blessed” Memorial Day.

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 09:37 AM (77rzZ)

16 Nice touch of the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) soldier's hat.

The presence of the hat suggests the seamstress may be a Civil War widow, adding deeper patriotic and memorial significance to the act of mending the flag.

[Per Brave "AI":] "The painting depicts a seamstress mending an American flag on Memorial Day (published May 27, 1922). The hat, propped on a sewing box, serves as a poignant reminder of the Civil War era, as 1922 marked the last time Civil War veterans marched in a presidential parade."

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (OLFlC)

17 I am playing with ny iphone's vision accessibility settings.
Hover text & hover keyboard might ge useful for this site

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (znREB)

18 Why would it be illegal?
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026


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You can *mend* a U.S. flag, I'm sure; certainly you'd want to keep it in good repair. It's allowing it to fall on the ground (I've heard) that is supposed to be a no-no.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

19 Grandma was thoughtful that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at May 25, 2026 09:39 AM (2Ez/1)

20 Norman Rockwell has always been my favorite artist of the 20th century. A wonderful counter to the stupid modern art culture.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 25, 2026 09:39 AM (/UBLm)

21 The number of stars in the flag would be a clue as to the time period of this painting, but we can't see how many there are. There's lots of space between them, though.
Maybe it has 46 stars, and this is set before NM and AZ became states in 1912.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:39 AM (wzUl9)

22 would hang!

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:41 AM (5rh/l)

23 Good morning, friends!

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 09:42 AM (Wmg4n)

24 On The Minature Page couple days ago guy posted a article on the flag from Military. Com, but couldn't find articles there to link it

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (Ia/+0)

25 You wish someone a “good” or “blessed” Memorial Day.

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 09:37 AM (77rzZ)

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Thanks, Bulg.

Those were not among the manners I learned from my single mom ... but will do so going forward.

Although not religious, I spoke 30 minutes with a couple of young female LDS Missionaries a few days ago, and for the first time in my life wished others "A Blessed Day" -- so it's growing on me.

One other thing of note: I have noticed in the past decade people saying to me "I appreciate YOU" -- which is usually from Christians, and throws me for a loop (strikes me as both un-humble and taking into account facts not necessarily in evidence). I have a hard time saying it to others, having ubiquitously said "I appreciate IT" to others when they behave in a kind manner.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (OLFlC)

26 Excellent choice for today. Thanks, CBD.
Piper, happy birthday to you and JJ.

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 25, 2026 09:44 AM (+iIfu)

27 This is sew good.

Posted by: Oh, no... at May 25, 2026 09:44 AM (2Ez/1)

28 Is that legal?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Kt19C)

No. By law, you are required to take all damaged flags to the manufacturer for repairs.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:45 AM (1Ff7Z)

29 Love the red, white, and blue flowered circular throw rug.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:46 AM (OLFlC)

30 It took me awhile to figure out that the hat was resting on a basket and not on a thirteenth-century tournament helm.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (gKWVE)

31 I wish our national leadership was as easily mended.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (RIvkX)

32
Hopelessly bourgeois. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (HdYcL)

33 Not to needle anyone, but if this thread turns into another pun contest I'll be bobbin' out the door.

Posted by: PabloD at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (K1RVP)

34 … Thanks, CBD.

Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (ayRl+)

35 27 This is sew good.
Posted by: Oh, no...
******

You're knot kidding.

Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1)

36 Given the time frame. The woman repairing the flag could also be the "manufacturer".

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (VCgbV)

37
Can we remove a couple of states and take it back to 48?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (HdYcL)

38 No need to hem and haw

Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:49 AM (ZxPkt)

39 You're knot kidding.
Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1)

Run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:49 AM (1Ff7Z)

40 DARN IT!

Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:49 AM (ZxPkt)

41 I've visited The Betsy Ross House and bought a Betsy Ross flag t-shirt. I'm told this makes me a racist.

Posted by: Delurker at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (gtcuf)

42 33 Not to needle anyone, but if this thread turns into another pun contest I'll be bobbin' out the door.
Posted by: PabloD
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I think they're just getting unfurled.

Posted by: Make it stop at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (2Ez/1)

43 Beautiful art is not didactic.

Posted by: Accomack at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (6jy2V)

44 Nice touch of the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) soldier's hat.

The presence of the hat suggests the seamstress may be a Civil War widow, adding deeper patriotic and memorial significance to the act of mending the flag.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (OLFlC)
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My grandmother's neighbor was a very old woman and in her parlor was her father's GAR sword, which I was permitted to handle once.

It's telling that the people most hateful towards US history have so few personal links to it. It's all abstract online manufactured wrath.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

45 My big kitty decided to come visit me in bed to get pets. I have discovered a few mats that I need to take care of. He's not going to like it...

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 09:51 AM (VCgbV)

46 I don't like posting comments on my iPad. All of my clever puns have been stolen. Much quicker on my desktop.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (/UBLm)

47 One other thing of note: I have noticed in the past decade people saying to me "I appreciate YOU" -- which is usually from Christians, and throws me for a loop (strikes me as both un-humble and taking into account facts not necessarily in evidence). I have a hard time saying it to others, having ubiquitously said "I appreciate IT" to others when they behave in a kind manner.
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (OLFlC)

In the South, we say appreciate you for a lot of things. It’s multi purpose.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (OoFl2)

48 It's a thimble of our United Thtates.

Posted by: Delurker at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (gtcuf)

49 Beautiful art is not didactic.
Posted by: Accomack at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (6jy2V)

It can be.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (1Ff7Z)

50 One can legally mend a flag. I like this. Watched my dad mend a flag or two and this is really nice way to be reminded of that. Thanks cbd!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (xvXRY)

51 37
Can we remove a couple of states and take it back to 48?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (HdYcL)

If we're limited to two, I would have once said "California and New York."

NY is still the larger necrotic gaping wound on the thorax of the nation... but Minnesota is so repulsive now that I think it's moved up in the power rankings, simply by virtue of how nasty it is. I would have to go after NY third, at this point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM (BI5O2)

52 It took me awhile to figure out that the hat was resting on a basket and not on a thirteenth-century tournament helm.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 09:47 AM (gKWVE)
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We sometimes see what we want to see.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)

53 My big kitty decided to come visit me in bed to get pets. I have discovered a few mats that I need to take care of. He's not going to like it...
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026


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Big black Stirling is up here on my desk next to the computer. He's a medium-hair, so mats are unlikely. Little Dagny the Siberian needs to be combed more often than I do it -- she grooms herself, but there are areas she apparently can't reach.

To tie this back into the painting, I suspect Sewing Lady has locked the cats out of the room. They'd be pawing at that flag for sure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:54 AM (wzUl9)

54 39 You're knot kidding.
Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1)

Run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes.
________
You're just stringing us along.

Posted by: Rimshot at May 25, 2026 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)

55 In the South, we say appreciate you for a lot of things. It’s multi purpose.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026


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And then there's "Bless his/her heart," which has another meaning entirely . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (wzUl9)

56 You're knot kidding.
Posted by: Groan at May 25, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1)
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Run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes.
________
You're just stringing us along.
Posted by: Rimshot at May 25, 2026


***
Roping in the newbies

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (wzUl9)

57 In the South, we say appreciate you for a lot of things. It’s multi purpose.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 09:52 AM
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Bless your heart.

Posted by: Your grandmother at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (2Ez/1)

58
This vaguely reminds me of Grandma.

Mostly, in the slight smile and contented look on her face as she concentrated on doing some little chore or cooking.

She was a Gold Star Mother, so Memorial Day was never a happy day but one of remembrance. She would proudly display the little Gold Star Mother banner(?) in the living room window, so it could be seen from the street.

For those not there at the time, our wonderful hippies and anti-wartards often targeted Gold Star Mothers on that day with ridicule and shaming.

Fortunately, Grandma never had any of that.

You never see the Gold Star in the windows of houses these days but at that time it was a fairly common sight.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (iJfKG)

59 Per Brave "AI":] "The painting depicts a seamstress mending an American flag on Memorial Day (published May 27, 1922). The hat, propped on a sewing box, serves as a poignant reminder of the Civil War era, as 1922 marked the last time Civil War veterans marched in a presidential parade."
Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (OLFlC)

Presidential parade, yes. I believe the last public gathering of any kind was an anniversary celebration at Gettysburg in 1937, which managed to find 4 veterans (from both sides) still able to participate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (ykvlb)

60 The scene is simple: an older lady repairing a flag. That's the first impression. But her expression is serene. The hat indicates a husband or son, possibly lost in war. She is not crushed by the loss but honors the flag he followed and cherishes her memories of the man. Her age shows she didn't give up or despair but carried on a life the sacrifice ensured.

In its understated way the painting speaks of dedication, acceptance, appreciation, and patriotism.

Just dealing with the technical aspects, enlarge the image. The overall impression is soft but realistic. The detail reveals the soft, rather dry, brush work Rockwell used. Part of his talent was choosing the colors and blending them effectively to create an illusion of realism.

Posted by: JTB at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (yTvNw)

61 There's another Memorial Day in this country, but we're no t supposed to remember that day. Are we?

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 09:57 AM (LHPAg)

62 Necrotic Gaping Wound would be a good name for a rock band.

Posted by: In the spirit of Dave Barry at May 25, 2026 09:58 AM (2Ez/1)

63 Roping in the newbies
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (wzUl9)

Only on the fly.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:58 AM (1Ff7Z)

64 You never see the Gold Star in the windows of houses these days but at that time it was a fairly common sight.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:56 AM (iJfKG)
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There were both blue and gold stars visible around here during the GWOT. Yellow ribbon banners as well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (ZOv7s)

65
I think I've seen it said that it was the Spanish-American War that led to a real reconciliation of North and South.

In 1913, Union and Confederate veterans met again at Gettysburg. The boys who 50 years earlier were trying to blow each other to smithereens were now greybeards swapping stories and, no doubt, bottles of the stuff that cheered.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (HdYcL)

66 These flag puns are rather...flagrant.

Posted by: Ugh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (2Ez/1)

67 Mending The Flag
Norman Rockwell

💖

Thanks, CBD.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (NFX2v)

68 Poignant.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (bss/y)

69 These flag puns are rather...flagrant.
Posted by: Ugh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (2Ez/1)

Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z)

70 Love the detail. The rug, the gold fringe on the flag, the drapes, the flower in the window, her chair.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (2Ez/1)

71 69 These flag puns are rather...flagrant.
Posted by: Ugh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (2Ez/1)

Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z)
You didn't wave goodbye.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg)

72 I think I've seen it said that it was the Spanish-American War that led to a real reconciliation of North and South.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (HdYcL)
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The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated. The leaders of course set an example, which was in large part because they knew each other before the war, were classmates and wished it had all never happened.

So you see various generals serving as pall-bearers for their opponents.

But the troops fraternized constantly, traded supplies, and while much was made of Chamberlain ordering his troops to salute the Confederates after Appomattox, the respect was real.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:05 AM (ZOv7s)

73
Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM
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It's been a banner day for puns.

Posted by: It waves at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (2Ez/1)

74 Is it me or is the corner of the flag touching the rug?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (2GVsD)

75 I'm the oldest living veteran in my family. That just feels weird.
I love this painting as I do most of Rockwell's art. He had a gift.
Pretty sure it's a 48 star flag.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (gbGyB)

76 It's you.

Posted by: The way I always answer that question at May 25, 2026 10:07 AM (2Ez/1)

77 Very appropriate. Would hang
Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 10:08 AM (hpwtA)

78 Yeah, I guess I'll stop. Consider this my finial one.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:03 AM (1Ff7Z)
You didn't wave goodbye.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg)

I didn't want to vex anyone. I'm not a vexillologist.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (1Ff7Z)

79 As a side note, when Churchill addressed the Civil War in his History of the English Speaking Peoples, he made a particular point that the battles were far fiercer than those in Europe.

He expressed awe (and perhaps a little maternal pride)at units on both sides that regularly fought to the point of annihilation, and he later reflected on this when America entered the war. He did not at all think Americans were soft because he knew what they were capable of doing.

The Germans and Japanese found out the hard way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (ZOv7s)

80 I'd really like to know what became of my bud after AIT, Fort Jackson in '64. A Vermonter by the name of Alden R. Carter. Ask a question, get one of two 'Alden' answers: "Aaaaaaaah-yup!" or "Aaaaaaaaa-nope!". He shipped out and was assigned Americal Division in '64 and I returned to my home unit. We corresponded for about 6 months, then the letters stopped. Alden, if you're still out there, welcome home. I hope you're safe … and remember the weekend in Charlotte, SC. Yeah, good times, huh … ? [R]

(an aside: When we checked our Company bulletin board to see who was going where, at least 93% of us were assigned to "DaNang Air Base, VietNam, South, Republic Of" …

Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (ayRl+)

81 Looking at the alignment of the stars in the blue field; yes, it is a 48-star flag.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:09 AM (2GVsD)

82 74 Is it me or is the corner of the flag touching the rug?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM (2GVsD)

The tassel* maybe.

*Odd, I typed it as tassle. I thought that was correct.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 10:10 AM (bss/y)

83 By the way, Middle Daughter has completed her enlistment. Another veteran added to the family tree.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

84 It's been a banner day for puns.
Posted by: It waves at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM
*******
Just a fabrication.

Posted by: Please make it stop! at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (2Ez/1)

85 I think I've seen it said that it was the Spanish-American War that led to a real reconciliation of North and South.

In 1913, Union and Confederate veterans met again at Gettysburg. The boys who 50 years earlier were trying to blow each other to smithereens were now greybeards swapping stories and, no doubt, bottles of the stuff that cheered.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:00 AM (HdYcL)

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Great point, Hadrian.

Can't help recalling that it was during the Mexican-American War that Grand and Lee first met when their paths crossed during the march from Veracruz to Mexico City in 1847.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (OLFlC)

86 *GRANT and Lee

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (OLFlC)

87 It's been a banner day for puns.
Posted by: It waves at May 25, 2026 10:06 AM
*******
Just a fabrication.
Posted by: Please make it stop! at May 25, 2026 10:11 AM (2Ez/1)

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Be still my fluttering heart.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (OLFlC)

88 1. No one cares
2. 100-comment rule

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (J4Dwc)

89 Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD)

90 Good morning!!


Nice painting choice, CBD.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (X8xt3)

91 >>"The painting depicts a seamstress mending an American flag on Memorial Day (published May 27, 1922). The hat, propped on a sewing box, serves as a poignant reminder of the Civil War era, as 1922 marked the last time Civil War veterans marched in a presidential parade."


Ooh, nice detail! Thanks

Also, a reminder of how unique our nation's recovery from the civil war was, as it's likely it was veterans from both sides marching.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:15 AM (X8xt3)

92 We had one of the kids at work recently complete Air Force basic training. He came by on leave to say hi and ran into 4 of us old decrepid vets bs-ing.
I said welcome to the club.
The look on his face when that hit him was funny as hell.
Yeah kid, you got youth and vitallity now. Just wait.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (gbGyB)

93 Happy Birthday, Piper, if you are still around.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (0nHVk)

94 >>It's been a banner day for puns.

We are mast-ers of the pun!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (X8xt3)

95 Coffee immediately became an issue because of the northern blockade of the south. Of course there are substitutes like Chicory or roasted acorns, but …. as everyone knows there isn’t really a substitute.

But the South had Tobacco. So plenty of trading went on for those two commodities.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (HpBvd)

96 "Oh so proudly we pun."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (2GVsD)

97 Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD)

Anyone remember the 90s band Grant Lee Buffalo?

Also, there was the Brewster Buffalo. An early war fighter. Stubby thing with wings.

Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (rgnea)

98 By the way, Middle Daughter has completed her enlistment. Another veteran added to the family tree.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

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Congratulations to you and her!

I must be really old-fashioned and old; on the one hand, I admire young women who wish to serve in any capacity in military service -- especially war (we're currently re-watching "China Beach"); on the other hand, I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war.

Oh well, get off my lawn ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (OLFlC)

99 Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD)
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The Brits couldn't deal with the weird American practice of attaching "M" and a growing stream of numbers and letters to everything, so they decided to pick American generals to keep the models straight.

Kind of funny that the flyers (AAC and Navy) did the nickname thing without being prompted. (And then the Brits changed them all when they got them.)

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (ZOv7s)

100 I will not be in union with these punsters.

Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (rgnea)

101 97 Grant and Lee, both names for the M-3 tank of World War II.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:13 AM (2GVsD)

Anyone remember the 90s band Grant Lee Buffalo?

Also, there was the Brewster Buffalo. An early war fighter. Stubby thing with wings.
Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (rgnea)
Buffalo Springfield? They made paving equipment.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (LHPAg)

102 "Oh so proudly we pun."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (2GVsD)

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"... at the twilight's last streaming."

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat s should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/s at May 25, 2026 10:20 AM (OLFlC)

103 really like to know what became of my bud after AIT, Fort Jackson in '64. A Vermonter by the name of Alden R. Carter. Ask a question, get one of two 'Alden' answers: "Aaaaaaaah-yup!" or "Aaaaaaaaa-nope!

Not to loquacious, could he have become a author?
https://tinyurl.com/mukh56hf

Posted by: From about That Time at May 25, 2026 10:20 AM (sl73Y)

104 28 Is that legal?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Kt19C)

No. By law, you are required to take all damaged flags to the manufacturer for repairs.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 09:45 AM (1Ff7Z)
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Funny! Especially considering how many are made in China!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (cWLG3)

105 93 Happy Birthday, Piper, if you are still around.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (0nHVk)

Thank you! On the porch enjoying coffee.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (OoFl2)

106 I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war.

Oh well, get off my lawn ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (OLFlC)

I too feel this way. Not a popular position to take but I will never waiver in my belief that protection of women and children is the paramont role of a male.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (gbGyB)

107 Old and busted: The Princess and the Pea

New and cool: The Princess and the Cashew-Based Vegan Cream Cheese

https://tinyurl.com/4f5efdme

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (ndZc7)

108 Brewster Buffalo was not well loved. Easy to shoot down. One commander suggested that anyone scheduled to fly one in combat should be considered KIA before they even take off. Not a ringing endorsement.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (HpBvd)

109 I must be really old-fashioned and old; on the one hand, I admire young women who wish to serve in any capacity in military service -- especially war (we're currently re-watching "China Beach"); on the other hand, I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war.

Oh well, get off my lawn ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:17 AM (OLFlC)
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I am quite the curmudgeon myself. I advised against it, told her that women really have no place in a proper military, and absolutely told her to stay away from the military police (she wanted to be a cop and went through the vocational training for it in high school).

She became a medic, and that has worked out for her. So yeah, military hospitals are okay, but feminizing the military has been a complete disaster.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (ZOv7s)

110 I will not be in union with these punsters.

Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:19 AM (rgnea)

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A confederate.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat's must change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [ at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (OLFlC)

111 Have a blessed Memorial Day!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (wVcYX)

112 >>By the way, Middle Daughter has completed her enlistment. Another veteran added to the family tree.

Congratulations!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (X8xt3)

113 Not a popular position to take….

Says who? That’s part of the problem.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:23 AM (HpBvd)

114 Ah the Brits. They called the Douglas BD-7B the Boson. The Turbolite equipped night fighter became the Havoc The USAAF called it the A-20 Havoc.

Wildcat - > Martlet
Avenger -> Tarpon -> Avenger.

As for Brewster, the F2A/B-339 fared poorly in Commonwealth and US hands but the Finns used it to great success.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (2GVsD)

115 She became a medic, and that has worked out for her. So yeah, military hospitals are okay, but feminizing the military has been a complete disaster.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:22 AM (ZOv7s)

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Nice! And agree with your final sentiment.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrats must change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it[/u at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (OLFlC)

116 Old and busted: Dark horse candidate

New and cool: Dark donkey candidate

https://tinyurl.com/2sfmaxd5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (ndZc7)

117 I have this idyllic notion that women are far too valuable to be put at risk, and that only men should be put at risk in the military and during war.

You can view it as idyllic, but in the sense of survival of the species, keeping the women away from harm is the obvious thing to do. One man can impregnate lots of women, but children are generated one woman at a time. Face it guys, we're much more expendable.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:25 AM (Riz8t)

118 The Finns were glad for anything they could get at that point

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:25 AM (HpBvd)

119 There's both a Grant and Lee streets in Manassas. And yes, they intersect.

Posted by: War Between The States Trivia at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (2Ez/1)

120 >> Anyone remember the 90s band Grant Lee Buffalo?

Heh, yes.

And who could forget the CU Buffalos.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (X8xt3)

121 JJ Sefton sure had a banner set of links this morning.
I'm looking at Rainer Zitelmann, New Space Capitalism. It'll be a check on space commies like the Weinersmith couple.
I didn't know Skyhorse - the publisher - also aliases as Night Shade. They're the mad lads who published all Clark Ashton Smith's stuff. Also Neal Asher and other SF.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (gKWVE)

122 Piper, my birthday also. Happy birthday.
I might have got there first.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 25, 2026 10:26 AM (sl73Y)

123 Not a popular position to take….

Says who? That’s part of the problem.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:23 AM (HpBvd)
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I think the tide has turned on being able to speak openly about it. We tried it the other way, and it failed. Spectacularly.

Women are too irreplaceable to use as bullet stops. If you put them in a coed environment, pregnancy results. Huge problem with morale and combat effectiveness. My daughter (like all the kids today) has come around to see that yes, Dad knows what he was talking about.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:27 AM (ZOv7s)

124 I too feel this way. Not a popular position to take but I will never waiver in my belief that protection of women and children is the paramont role of a male.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:21 AM (gbGyB)

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Indeed. I mean, it is virtually instinctual to the "toxic" masculine among us ...

Posted by: Shain S at May 25, 2026 10:27 AM (OLFlC)

125 New and cool: The Princess and the Cashew-Based Vegan Cream Cheese

https://tinyurl.com/4f5efdme



Taylor Lorenz has to be the most pampered and least self-aware human being in all the land.

Today's complaint? New York bagel shops don't have the kind of cream cheese Taylor likes and she thinks Zohran Mamdani should force them to carry it.


I was chatting with my youngest (liberal) daughter, and laughingly mentioned TL. My daughter was appalled that I knew her name, telling me I spend too much time on line, and mocked her thoroughly, especially her pretensions to youth.

I think TL is an equal opportunity target; both right and left think she's ridiculous.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:28 AM (Riz8t)

126 Co-ed anything is a disaster, truth be told. Military just highlights it to the logical extreme.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:29 AM (HpBvd)

127 When was the last time anyone saw a message from IronGrandpa?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 25, 2026 10:29 AM (3AwA+)

128 As for Brewster, the F2A/B-339 fared poorly in Commonwealth and US hands but the Finns used it to great success.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:24 AM (2GVsD)
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Well yeah, they were going against I-15s and I-16s. An entire shipment of them in Spain had manufacturing defects and literally came apart. The whole fleet was grounded and of course the cause was determined to be "wreckers and saboteurs," not crappy quality control.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)

129 And stop with all the female police chiefs.

Posted by: Fight me at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (2Ez/1)

130 According to Wiki, the Finns scored 432 victories with the Brewster B-339 Buffalo. Which places the plane firmly as #2 after the Bf 109 variants with 592 victories.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (2GVsD)

131 A warning from Justice Jumanji.

ABC News
@ABC
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . .
"It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel. "In my view, we have to be really, really careful in this environment when we're dealing with issues that have a political overlay. We have to be scrupulous about sticking to the principles and the rules that we apply in every case and not look as though we're doing something different in this kind of context."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (ndZc7)

132 @128 they should form brigades of Battle Sisters, like in Warhammer.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (cWLG3)

133 Pfftt

Valkyries, choosers of the slain

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (2GVsD)

134 @126

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (cWLG3)

135 You can view it as idyllic, but in the sense of survival of the species, keeping the women away from harm is the obvious thing to do. One man can impregnate lots of women, but children are generated one woman at a time. Face it guys, we're much more expendable.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:25 AM (Riz8t)

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Yes.

/I was being sarcastic using the term "idyllic" -- and should have put it in irony quotes -- as indeed it's merely a case of being more pragmatic than idyllic.

Posted by: Shain S at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (OLFlC)

136 Buffalo Springfield? They made paving equipment.
Posted by: Eromero

I have a small caliber Springfield, not capable of bringing down a buffalo.

Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (rgnea)

137 According to Wiki, the Finns scored 432 victories with the Brewster B-339 Buffalo. Which places the plane firmly as #2 after the Bf 109 variants with 592 victories.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:30 AM (2GVsD)
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I believe both of the Polikarpovs had negative kill ratios. They sucked against everything they went up against.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (ZOv7s)

138 We had a Personell unit around the corner in West Germany during Desert Shield. Probably 80% women and 20% gay. Within 2 months of that units deployment to Saudi most of the women had returned pregnent.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (gbGyB)

139 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . .
"It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel. "In my view, we have to be really, really careful in this environment when we're dealing with issues that have a political overlay. We have to be scrupulous about sticking to the principles and the rules that we apply in every case and not look as though we're doing something different in this kind of context."


You're wrong. Justices are not political...at all. Also, I want a pony.

Posted by: CJ Roberts at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (Riz8t)

140 131 A warning from Justice Jumanji.
.........

She talks too much and says too little.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

141 The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated. The leaders of course set an example, which was in large part because they knew each other before the war, were classmates and wished it had all never happened.

So you see various generals serving as pall-bearers for their opponents.

But the troops fraternized constantly, traded supplies, and while much was made of Chamberlain ordering his troops to salute the Confederates after Appomattox, the respect was real.
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But AOC and her goofball Battalion of Bucktooths is gonna "pull up" on the South and show them what-for 'cause that's what the North should've done back when.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (73/SM)

142 139 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . .


Says the queen of political

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (FtULh)

143 >>I think the tide has turned on being able to speak openly about it. We tried it the other way, and it failed. Spectacularly.


Years of working with and for women, as well as witnessing the dysfunction of feminism, has shaped my opinion that women are not suited for a lot of areas of the military. We ae different, men and women.

*I am reminded of the boat crash that occurred because the female captain and another critical woman in command were not speaking to each other.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (X8xt3)

144 Justice Brown projective vomits too much

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:34 AM (2GVsD)

145 they should form brigades of Battle Sisters, like in Warhammer.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:31 AM (cWLG3)
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That's what they used to do, and it worked. All-female support units. Female ferry pilots in female squadrons. No fraternization, period.

Now you have the militaries of Australia, Canada and New Zealand run by Karens.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:35 AM (ZOv7s)

146 Justice Brown projective vomits too much

Both her projectile vomiting and her speech involve opening her mouth when it should stay closed and emitting unpleasant substances.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:35 AM (Riz8t)

147 Multicultural gardening.

https://tinyurl.com/y32uabc9

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:35 AM (ndZc7)

148 >>Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.


Hey, can we go back to when "Biden" nominated her and verify that he was, in fact, making that decision?
Maybe she's so bad because the person that selected her was Auto Pen.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (X8xt3)

149 *I am reminded of the boat crash that occurred because the female captain and another critical woman in command were not speaking to each other.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM

She knows what she did.

Posted by: Court Martial Official Record at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (2Ez/1)

150 > Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
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Tell us more about Kagan's dragging her feet on releasing her dissent on the redistricting so the states would have time to figure out another scam and how that isn't already "impartiality in political matters."

Dipshit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (jehhT)

151
140 131 A warning from Justice Jumanji.
.........

She talks too much and says too little.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)
She who talks loud, say nothing. (H/T "Dead Man")

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (cWLG3)

152
The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated. 

___________

When you got down to the nut-cutting, it was as savage as you can imagine. Read accounts of the Bloody Angle and you wonder at the capacity of the human mind to function.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (HdYcL)

153 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . .

"It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel.

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The U.S. Constitution clearly forbids discrimination based solely upon race.

You view EVERYTHING through the lens of race. lol gf

Posted by: Shain S at May 25, 2026 10:37 AM (OLFlC)

154 *I am reminded of the boat crash that occurred because the female captain and another critical woman in command were not speaking to each other.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (X8xt3)
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Which one? There was the destroyer collision, but New Zealand lost a research vessel because the Captain (who was not qualified for the ship!) ran it onto a reef. The audio of the bridge is one of the most horrifying things you will ever hear. She literally admonished the crew to GO TO THE BATHROOM BEFORE BOARDING THE LIFEBOATS.

Oh, and grab some snacks, and some water, you know, because THE SHIP IS SINKING. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:37 AM (ZOv7s)

155
Oh, and grab some snacks, and some water, you know, because THE SHIP IS SINKING. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:37 AM (ZOv7s)

___________

"My lucky coat!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (HdYcL)

156 She talks too much and says too little.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)
She who talks loud, say nothing. (H/T "Dead Man")


There is bovine excrement in Jackson's words of death for all men to see.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (Riz8t)

157 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . .
"It can so easily be perceived that the court is doing something political," Jackson said in conversation with U.S. District Court Judge Richard Gergel. "In my view, we have to be really, really careful in this environment when we're dealing with issues that have a political overlay. We have to be scrupulous about sticking to the principles and the rules that we apply in every case and not look as though we're doing something different in this kind of context."

You're wrong. Justices are not political...at all. Also, I want a pony.
Posted by: CJ Roberts at May 25, 2026 10:32 AM (Riz8t)



You know, right here, Ketamine Broadway Jackass illustrates why she's unable to serve as a Supreme Court Judge despite having the job:

She thinks the Constitution can be overruled and not followed in court cases if if if it offends her sense of politics.

That should never be the case.

Even if it is, most SCJs can squeak in a Constitutional reasoning for their horrible political decision (see Roberts).

Not this a-hole.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (iJfKG)

158 She knows what she did.
Posted by: Court Martial Official Record at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (2Ez/1)

This place.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:39 AM (gbGyB)

159 The NZ ship sinking, yeah that audio recording.

The bridge crew and the Captain forgot the silly thing was on autopilot until after the ship had hit the reef.

Lloyd, she reminded the crew TWICE to go use the bathroom on the PA system.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2026 10:40 AM (2GVsD)

160 When you got down to the nut-cutting, it was as savage as you can imagine. Read accounts of the Bloody Angle and you wonder at the capacity of the human mind to function.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (HdYcL)
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The heat of battle is a unique environment. And yes, there were atrocities, but there was also respect and, ultimately, a desire to make it all stop.

AOC can fantasize about "pulling up" because she knows she's protected. A huge factor in reconciliation was the idea that enough killing had happened. The issue was settled, let's get on with life. Same with Germany and Japan. Yeah, war criminals escaped justice, but killing them would have meant losing more of our guys and it's just not worth it.

One of the (many) demonic aspects of the left is their inability to forgive anyone but themselves.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:40 AM (ZOv7s)

161 122 Piper, my birthday also. Happy birthday.
I might have got there first.
Posted by: From about That Time at May

Happy birthday to you!

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:40 AM (p4NUW)

162 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters

So, in order to restore the court's political impartiality, they should find for the other political party?

Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (zw+xd)

163 Yes.

/I was being sarcastic using the term "idyllic" -- and should have put it in irony quotes -- as indeed it's merely a case of being more pragmatic than idyllic.


Yeah, but you were expecting me to be quick on the uptake. That was your big mistake.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (Riz8t)

164 152
The degree of hatred has been vastly overstated.

___________

When you got down to the nut-cutting, it was as savage as you can imagine. Read accounts of the Bloody Angle and you wonder at the capacity of the human mind to function.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (HdYcL)

Lots of mythology associated with the American Civil War. Most of the post war writings were hugely agenda driven, with an eye to sanitizing events, and ass covering by participants in command.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (Gqar8)

165 "Attention all hands! Prepare to abandon ship! This is not a drill. Use the bathroom, be sure to wash your hands. I repeat, BE SURE TO WASH YOUR HANDS. That is all."

Posted by: The Giant Voice at May 25, 2026 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)

166 140 131 A warning from Justice Jumanji.
.........

She talks too much and says too little.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)
She who talks loud, say nothing. (H/T "Dead Man")
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:36 AM (cWLG3)

"An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers."

Posted by: Plato at May 25, 2026 10:44 AM (wVcYX)

167 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her colleagues' handling of the Louisiana voting rights case may have compromised the court's impartiality in political matters.
. . . .
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Imagine asking her to name one 5-4 decisions that was not seen as political.

her complaint is not the politics, it's that her side came out on the losing side.

And especially, if it had been 5-4 in her favor, she'd be thundering in righteous indignation, ranting against those who dare question the impartiality of the Court.

Fuck her, stupid DEI bint.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 10:44 AM (73/SM)

168
Ooh, nice. Lots of afternoon ball games today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 10:44 AM (HdYcL)

169 Bongeno needs a little spell checking.

Memorial Day: Honoring the Fallen, Remembering the Forgetten

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:45 AM (ndZc7)

170 165 "Attention all hands! Prepare to abandon ship! This is not a drill. Use the bathroom, be sure to wash your hands. I repeat, BE SURE TO WASH YOUR HANDS. That is all."
Posted by: The Giant Voice at May 25, 2026 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)

Food safety is EVERYONE'S responsibility!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 10:47 AM (bss/y)

171 >>Imagine asking her to name one 5-4 decisions that was not seen as political.

her complaint is not the politics, it's that her side came out on the losing side.



This. She's like the female Obama. Long on empty talk and lectures, short on intellect and accomplishment.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:48 AM (X8xt3)

172 Bongeno needs a little spell checking.

Memorial Day: Honoring the Fallen, Remembering the Forgetten
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 25, 2026 10:45 AM


Who's going to tell him?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2026 10:48 AM (Wnv9h)

173 >>One of the (many) demonic aspects of the left is their inability to forgive anyone but themselves.


Excellent point.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (X8xt3)

174 Yeah, the empty barrel makes the most racket. There sure is a lot noise these days. Identity politics is pure poison, and was intended that way.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (HpBvd)

175
One, good for that kid. This is the way.

Two, okay fine, now when is the school trip to the Catholic Church.


https://instapundit.com/799039/#disqus_thread

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (iJfKG)

176 Bongeener ain't no speler.

Posted by: Heh at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (2Ez/1)

177 It's my first wifes B-day too.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (gbGyB)

178 Lots of mythology associated with the American Civil War. Most of the post war writings were hugely agenda driven, with an eye to sanitizing events, and ass covering by participants in command.
Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:41 AM (Gqar
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The series of articles that became Battles and Leaders had an outsized role in post-war reputations. History was written by the people who wrote it.

That's how there were efforts to rehabilitate some commanders while others - like Thomas - languished in obscurity. Thomas was by any measure outstanding, but he was a loyal Virginian and died soon after the war without leaving literary-minded children to advocate for him.

Sherman similarly gets dissed without people understanding how innovative his operational art was.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (ZOv7s)

179 173 >>One of the (many) demonic aspects of the left is their inability to forgive anyone but themselves.


Excellent point.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2026 10:50 AM (X8xt3)

Yeesss, in their minds their actions are always justified, no matter what. True believers.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (Gqar8)

180 Good thing there was a war fought on behalf of Zionists to reopen the strait of Hormuz that was open before the war started.

Trump is a military genius.

Sad!!

Posted by: Le Haim at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (rjPWf)

181 Uhm, every SCOTUS decisions has political ramifications.

And while a SCOTUS decision in theory could be apolitical, they're frequently pregnant with politics.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (XV/Pl)

182 178
Sherman similarly gets dissed without people understanding how innovative his operational art was.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (ZOv7s)
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Scorched earth tactics were innovative?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:52 AM (cWLG3)

183 178

That's how there were efforts to rehabilitate some commanders while others - like Thomas - languished in obscurity. Thomas was by any measure outstanding, but he was a loyal Virginian and died soon after the war without leaving literary-minded children to advocate for him.

Sherman similarly gets dissed without people understanding how innovative his operational art was.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 25, 2026 10:51 AM (ZOv7s)

The South got real busy after the war, writing up their versions of what happened, and why. The North, not so much. Lee the saint, Grant the butcher is but one example. They did a very effective job in contolling the narrative.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 10:54 AM (Gqar8)

184 177 It's my first wifes B-day too.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:50


It is my ex husband’s first wife’s birthday, too.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:55 AM (OoFl2)

185 Scorched earth tactics were innovative?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2026 10:52 AM (cWLG3)

We didn't salt the earth behind us.

Posted by: Sherman's starters at May 25, 2026 10:57 AM (gbGyB)

186 184 177 It's my first wifes B-day too.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2026 10:50


It is my ex husband’s first wife’s birthday, too.
Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:55 AM (OoFl2)



LOL... Happy Birthday to her....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2026 10:58 AM (FtULh)

187 At the end of the day, AOC wanting to pull up here won’t end well. And she looked ridiculous behind her bullet proof glass. Baby girl is not that important.

Ps. It is still called the War of Northern Aggression. Is that tongue in cheek? Only a bit.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 10:58 AM (OoFl2)

188 WE HAZ A NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (Ia/+0)

189 They keep playing the same story- that there are far more right wing attacks on left than vice versa.

THAT is the reason for the bullet proof glass. If it were them, THEY'D attack the real movers and shakers. Plus, it energizes the foot troops to go after their targets because it implies that this is a hard fought war and she's dodged bullet after bullet meant for her and so attacking or killing Trump is only in the context of the war.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 11:01 AM (bss/y)

190 Men in command of warships at sea have never done anything stupid like running it aground or into other ships.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (J4Dwc)

191 The ACW was - complex- in my home state of Missouri. A non seceding slave state. My ancestors all served the North. Many of their neighbors, the South.

Posted by: tubal at May 25, 2026 11:02 AM (Gqar8)

192 For everyone who came here to the beach, yuck yweather. Tropical rain everywhere, more than 5” of rain falling.

Posted by: Piper at May 25, 2026 11:03 AM (Wmg4n)

The Morning Report — 5/ 25/26

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Good morning kids.

Today is of course Memorial Day, but the news does not take time off as is amply demonstrated by the lead story.

Maryland man was shot and killed by U.S. Secret Service agents Saturday evening after allegedly opening fire near a White House security checkpoint, triggering a lockdown and a massive federal law enforcement response in the nation’s capital.

Multiple sources identified the suspect as Nasire Best, 21, of Maryland.

According to the United States Secret Service, the shooting unfolded around 6 p.m. near 17th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue NW when the suspect allegedly removed a handgun from a bag and began firing toward officers stationed near the White House perimeter.

A senior administration official said Best fired approximately three shots before Secret Service agents returned fire and killed him. Authorities said the suspect never breached the White House grounds.

An adult bystander was struck during the exchange of gunfire, though the person’s condition was not immediately known.

Ho hun, ho hum, another potential if not probable assassination attempt on President Trump. What is this the fifth or sixth attempt already? Yes, horrendous as it is it's not necessarily the real story, which of course is the greatest existential threat to our nation that we have or will ever face, the societal/political elements within our society that seek absolute power and the complete upending of America as founded, its destruction and transmogrification into a totalitarian tyranny. The epicenter of that movement is the Democrat Party and all those who support it.

Hasan Kwame Jeffries, the younger brother of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, is a professor of history at Ohio State University. In a recent social media post, he invoked the violence of John Brown, suggesting ‘white supremacy’ should be ended “by any means necessary.” Jeffries cited John Brown, an American abolitionist known for advocating violence to end slavery. One quote from Brown that describes his philosophy states: “I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.”
One person commented on the post, jokingly asking, “Are these ‘white supremacists’ in the room with you now?” Jeffries responded, “Nah. They’re in the White House.” The post further suggests that Jeffries was referring to President Trump and his administration in the original post.

In any case, and sincere apologies for that pornographic debasement as this is Memorial Day so let us remember all those who gave their llives in defense of this country and let us beg their forgiveness for allowing the cancer of the Hakeem Jeffries' in our midst to have gained positions of power and influence to the extent that the cause of freedom and the nation our loved ones gave their lives to defend and preserve is closer than ever to being lost.

I can only imagine my dear uncle, for whom I was named and who was cut to ribbons by a Jap machine gun on Saipan, looking down from Heaven and weeping at how low we have sunk.

Let us do what we can to ensure the sacrifices he and all who gave their lives were not in vain. God bless their memories.

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1 Any agreement written with the current Iranian regime is not worth the paper it’s written on.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:48 AM (XV/Pl)

2 >>>"If Christian values are replaced by Islamic ones, this will not be Britain any more."

If? Is this a skit?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 06:51 AM (dK+Kv)

3 1 Any agreement written with the current Iranian regime is not worth the paper it’s written on.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:48 AM (XV/Pl)


Completely FARSI...cle

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 06:51 AM (x0n13)

4 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (ExV1e)

5 Good morning dear morons and happy birthday JJ

Our fallen soldiers, may their memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (RIvkX)

6 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down.

Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person.

Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (vFG9F)

7 Spencer Pratt running for LA Mayor:

Spencer Pratt’s team is power-washing stencils onto city sidewalks, creating visible messages where the cleaned sections contrast sharply with the surrounding dirt and grime.

"Imagine if the streets were this clean"

The only way to fully erase them? Actually clean the streets.

A great reminder about infrastructure and basic maintenance in a city that is declining under long-time Democratic leadership.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (2PamV)

8
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2026 06:57 AM (AMvSw)

9 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 06:57 AM (jehhT)

10 The first person to wish us a "happy" Memorial Day spends a night in the box.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 06:59 AM (J4Dwc)

11 "TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"

I am unfamiliar with this Yankee expression. Does it have something to do with diapers?

Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:00 AM (vFG9F)

12 We gave a shit ton of drone tech to the ukrainians, why not give it to the middle eastern and gulf states? At least they can pay for it.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 07:00 AM (D1E+2)

13 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:01 AM (u82oZ)

14 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down.

Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person.
Posted by: fd


I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective.
Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:02 AM (2PamV)

15 "Multiple sources identified the suspect as Nasire Best, 21, of Maryland."
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Neighbors say he was just turning his life around and had begun attending a bible study.

Posted by: Local media at May 25, 2026 07:04 AM (2Ez/1)

16 Spencer Pratt will lose by something slightly less than a landslide.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:04 AM (XV/Pl)

17 6 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down.

Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person.
Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (vFG9F)


Could've been worse. Could've been the grandmother who got out of a NYC taxi and fell down an open manhole!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:05 AM (x0n13)

18 I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective.
Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:02 AM (2PamV)
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You're not really livinggggggggggggggg ahhhhh!
/adrenaline-junkie on the way down down down

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:05 AM (RIvkX)

19
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective.
Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:02 AM (2PamV)


As I get closer to my three score and ten, I find myself avoiding situations where gravity will have an adverse effect on my health and well-being.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:07 AM (HdYcL)

20 Thomas Bender

Maybe. There is something about his campaign that is winning over people. His message is spot on. The stencils were a good stunt. And money is flowing in, a sign his approach is sound.

Can he beat the cheat? Otherwise ...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:07 AM (u82oZ)

21 By now, Jug Ears (the successful Manchurian Candidate) is having breakfast and a laughing fit with his Comrade Lucifer

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (HeR4S)

22 Oh and they released the sample ballot for the governors race, there are 45 candidates, the two front running democrats are listed 1, 2. The two Republican candidates are listed at 43 and 44.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (XV/Pl)

23 We observe Memorial Day.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (qFwJc)

24 Taking the time to remember those who have sacrificed everything for our liberty and freedom. May they rest in peace and may we do what we can to preserve what they left for us.

Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (XZhJa)

25 21 By now, Jug Ears (the successful Manchurian Candidate) is having breakfast and a laughing fit with his Comrade Lucifer
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (HeR4S)


Wait, Obama is dead?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM (x0n13)

26 Hadrian the Seventh

I agree. Gravity is a harsh mistress.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (u82oZ)

27 "If Christian values are replaced by Islamic ones, this will not be Britain any more."
The Red-Pilling of John Cleese"

You threw it away, you twit.

Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (vFG9F)

28 "(How do you say BOHICA in Farsi? - jjs)"

"President Donald Trump"!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (wzUl9)

29 LOL. I went to the Grand Canyon a few years ago.

It terrifies me.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (qFwJc)

30 >>> "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down.

Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person.
Posted by: fd


I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective.
Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING.

Posted by: rickb223

>I've been to the peak of every mountain in the three surrounding mountain ranges. We never took selfies and there were no volcanoes.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 07:10 AM (D1E+2)

31 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:56 AM (vFG9F)
-

Lava's Leap.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (fGGO0)

32 By now, Jug Ears (the successful Manchurian Candidate) is having breakfast and a laughing fit with his Comrade Lucifer
Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026
*
Wait, Obama is dead?!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026


***
We were told that Lucifer was fond of going to and fro in the Earth and walking up and down in it. No doubt he could visit BHO for a morning meal now and then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (wzUl9)

33 I will attend the Memorial Day events at the Kansas Veterans Cemetery at 10 AM. The Democrat governor, Laura Kelly, will be there.

Afterwards, I will visit my late wife's grave. She is buried there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (u82oZ)

34 I am slowly coming to the conclusion that I am defective.
Because not once in 63 years, have I EVER wanted to get that close to the edge of ANYTHING.

Posted by: rickb223


***
Not defective. SANE.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:12 AM (wzUl9)

35 23 We observe Memorial Day.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM
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With the ultimate mattress sale of the year!
By two mattresses, get one free!!

Posted by: Every mattress store everywhere at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (2Ez/1)

36 I am developing a reflexive hatred of some of these insane Democrats, with the latest being this woman who turned her back on the flag and refused to pledge. Let her live in North Korea then, but she has no business in Congress, or living in California at all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (78kzY)

37 "Carmen Mercedes Lineberger was indicted on May 19 on multiple charges, including two counts of theft of government money or property after she allegedly secretly transmitted confidential DOJ records to her personal email accounts while disguising the files with names"

Was one of the recipes for cooked goose?

Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:14 AM (vFG9F)

38 I will attend the Memorial Day events at the Kansas Veterans Cemetery at 10 AM. The Democrat governor, Laura Kelly, will be there.

Afterwards, I will visit my late wife's grave. She is buried there.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:11 AM (u82oZ)
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A day for reflection. I wish you a good day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:14 AM (78kzY)

39 We observe Memorial Day.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:08 AM
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With the ultimate mattress sale of the year!
By two mattresses, get one free!!

Posted by: Every mattress store everywhere at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (2Ez/1)
-

That's why they call it memory foam!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (fGGO0)

40 Every day, I honor the men and women whose sacrifice helped keep the most amazing nation on the planet, the US of A, vibrant.

Away from the cities, there is a vast land filled with people true to our core ideals from the Declaration of Independence and especially the Constitution.

I aver the Constitution, as followed, is the best system software for an advanced, high-trust, nation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (u82oZ)

41 @20

>>Can he beat the cheat? Otherwise ...

Newsome was really unpopular, he won the recall in a landslide.

Bass is unpopular, not only is she unpopular, she’s a patently absurd retard to boot.

And since LA elections are fake and gay, she will more than likely win in a walk.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (XV/Pl)

42 Everyone should have a MEANINGFUL Memorial Day.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:16 AM (fGGO0)

43 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:16 AM (Ia/+0)

44 Lava's Leap.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Bravo, good sir. Bravo.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:16 AM (u82oZ)

45 I aver the Constitution, as followed, is the best system software for an advanced, high-trust, nation.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM (u82oZ)
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"High trust."

There's your problem right there!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:17 AM (fGGO0)

46 That's why they call it memory foam!
Posted by: Biden's Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM
+++
I put memory foam insoles in my shoes so when I walk into a room I'll remember why.

Didn't work.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:17 AM (2Ez/1)

47
Starting on refurbishing the spreadsheet of Delilah's show career. I thought it was complete, but there were two early shows in Florida that were missing (she walked in both of them).

Delilah didn't rack up the record that her illustrious grandmother Lacey did, but she missed the last five months of 2019 because of Her Majesty's knee surgery (I showed her a few times to no good effect), a good chunk of 2020 due to WuFlu leading to show cancellations, and almost all of 2020 because of maternal duties, important as they were.

Bittersweet memories. Luckily, her daughter Diana is at the same spot in the hot/crazy matrix as she was.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (HdYcL)

48 Reading a few takes on the latest White House ground shooter, I am not so sure its a assassination attempt as much as a mental illness case throwing his anger at the White House in general.
Not a person, just authority

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (Ia/+0)

49 Isaacman is not willing or able to do this, however. He might want to (though nothing he has said suggests he does) but even if he did Congress will not let him. It wants NASA funded to keep those pork-laden unproductive jobs alive in their numerous congressional districts.
======================
No doubt this is the educated, intelligent view. But I have an irrational faith Isaacman will do plenty more than just rearrange the deck chairs on a sinking ship, assuming we can continue to win elections and he has the time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (oVIfx)

50
Sorry, Lila had her first litter in 2022.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (HdYcL)

51 Spencer Pratt will lose by something slightly less than a landslide.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


This IS LA's chance to change for the better. If they reject Pratt, then they WANT whatever comes next.
And not only will I not shed a tear, I will point and laugh.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (2PamV)

52 Thomas Bender

Noted.

This is a choice election. Either start recovering from excellent bad policy execution, or have an entire city jump into a wildfire volcano.

A "win" by Bass would be unrecoverable. The people that can help the city, those that are left, will leave.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (u82oZ)

53 Love the pic JJ. Brings back memories of visiting Arlington National Cemetery and the American Military Cemeteries in Luxembourg, Normandy and Lorraine, France. Very inspiring and humbling to walk those hallowed grounds.

Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (sOgXJ)

54
Reading a few takes on the latest White House ground shooter, I am not so sure its a assassination attempt as much as a mental illness case throwing his anger at the White House in general.
Not a person, just authority
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (Ia/+0)


He served his purpose: normalizing assassination attempts against Trump.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:21 AM (HdYcL)

55 That's why they call it memory foam!
Posted by: Biden's Dog at May 25, 2026 07:15 AM
+++
I put memory foam insoles in my shoes so when I walk into a room I'll remember why.

Didn't work.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty


Did you wear the right shoes?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (2PamV)

56 He served his purpose: normalizing assassination attempts against Trump.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:21 AM (HdYcL)

The left won't be satisfied until some nutjob takes out President Trump.

Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (sOgXJ)

57 The ONT's bicentennial Coke.Commercial really showed me what this country has lost.

Thank you, Ted Kennedy, for all that you've destroyed.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (/3YYe)

58 >>>"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

She went down, down, down in a burning ring of fire.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (dK+Kv)

59 "TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"

I am unfamiliar with this Yankee expression. Does it have something to do with diapers?
Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:00 AM (vFG9F)

Just consider her a sub-literate idiot, then you won't go far wrong when talking about her.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (1Ff7Z)

60 Prayer for the families of those that have died to keep Americans safe and sound.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:23 AM (/+uur)

61 "...excellent bad policy execution..."

Umm...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:23 AM (2Ez/1)

62 Ethanol-free gas is still available in my area. $4.30 at one station, $4.25 at another. The Exxon convenience store I go to has what they say is ethnaol-free, amazingly, at .20 *less* than their $3.89 87 E10. I don't know if they are simply forgetting to jack up the price, or if the stuff in their tanks is old, or if it really has ethanol in it. I'm not sure I'm seeing *much* better mileage on it now, as compared to a year ago . . . but it's .20 less, so I buy it.

I need to try a full tank of this stuff, drive to near empty, and try a full tank of the $4.30 (*wince*), to compare.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:24 AM (wzUl9)

63 The UK has always been based at the deepest level on Christian values, regardless of dogma. Despite the many mistakes made by churches, for centuries British people have been influenced by Christ’s teaching. If these values are replaced by Islamic ones, this will not be Britain any more.
====================
I'm curious why Cleese uses a future tense and not a past tense. England, and all of Britain, appears to us, outsiders, as already gone.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (zG/eu)

64 Quarter Twenty

Some people want to Rule over a burnt out trash heap. We call them many names, like the Left, Communists, Democrats, losers. But they work very hard to rule over others.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (u82oZ)

65
Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. A well-run, prosperous city, bustling with human industry, would be profoundly unsettling.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (HdYcL)

66 Fvck off troll

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:25 AM (RIvkX)

67 Reading a few takes on the latest White House ground shooter, I am not so sure its a assassination attempt as much as a mental illness case throwing his anger at the White House in general.

Not a person, just authority

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:19 AM (Ia/+0)
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Willowed from ONT:

The Weekend White House shooter left behind a few hints on his Twitter account:

https://tinyurl.com/3ec2pua6

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 07:26 AM (XyZGq)

68 @52

>>A "win" by Bass would be unrecoverable. The people that can help the city, those that are left, will leave.

I would say this is a last chance election for Ca, if hoyer, swallowswell or porter win and bass wins in la, then that giant sucking sound you hear is the vortex created as people flee the state in droves.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 07:26 AM (XV/Pl)

69
The left won't be satisfied until some nutjob takes out President Trump.
Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (sOgXJ)


They won't be satisfied even then. You think when Trump goes away that everything will return to normal?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (HdYcL)

70 It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (/+uur)

71 53 Love the pic JJ. Brings back memories of visiting Arlington National Cemetery and the American Military Cemeteries in Luxembourg, Normandy and Lorraine, France. Very inspiring and humbling to walk those hallowed grounds.
Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:20 AM (sOgXJ)

That's my uncle's tombstone at Rock Island Nat'l Cemetery.

I visited Arlington as it opened on a very quiet autumn Sunday morning. Truly humbling, beautiful and emotional and unforgettable. Was all alone as I strolled the grounds.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (x0n13)

72 Hadrian, my Siberians have never been show cats, though sometimes their grand-sires or grand-dams have been. Little Dagny Sophia the Aloof's mother, Sofia, was considered good enough to breed (and Dagny looks like her clone), but I'm not sure she was ever shown.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (wzUl9)

73 Remembering some family members and an excellent boss today.

Posted by: RandomDave at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (aJQbY)

74 Troll about to regale us with his tales of heroism from Khe Sanh and Da Nang.

We are all so very impressed you fag.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (RIvkX)

75 Huck Follywood

My major professor in grad school left the UK in 1990. He saw all of this coming down the road. And acted on it.

The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (u82oZ)

76 Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026


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I see those conditions every day, including outside my door. Your description is truly apt.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (wzUl9)

77 Ages ago, my parents took us kids to Arlington on Memorial Day. We were in a throng of visitors at the Tomb of the Unknown for a changing of the guard. It was hard to see through the crowd, but I remember how quiet it was. And hot.

I think there are some old photos of that trip around here.

Living near the capitol city back in the 60's and 70's was a different world.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (jehhT)

78 From the dictionary: To regale means to entertain or delight someone with stories or a lavish feast.
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So there will be food?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (2Ez/1)

79 "They won't be satisfied even then. You think when Trump goes away that everything will return to normal?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"

It would be an excuse to ramp up, by both sides.

Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 07:31 AM (vFG9F)

80 I need to try a full tank of this stuff, drive to near empty, and try a full tank of the $4.30 (*wince*), to compare.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:24 AM (wzUl9)

I think a tank of Shell Super is the cheapest tuneup ever.
My last 2 trucks would send the Check Eng light about every 15 to 20k miles. I think from the water gathered by the ethanol. Stupid idea to put a hydrophilic substance in your fuel system.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:32 AM (/+uur)

81 The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (u82oZ)

Mr. H and Friends ought to be thinking about this.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 07:32 AM (1Ff7Z)

82 One Memorial Day, I visited my Great Uncle's grave in Arlington Cemetery. Very humbling. Hated to see the family name on a tombstone. My wife was respectful, as well.

He survived being a crew chief for a B-25 named for him (---'s Demon) in New Guinea in WWII, to go on to maintaining B-29 engines in Tinian.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:32 AM (u82oZ)

83 "Regale" means to blow twice.

Posted by: Camela at May 25, 2026 07:33 AM (vFG9F)

84
"Criminals might be victims of circumstance in the sense that few of them ever had a fair chance; but it was a mistake to forget the only 'fair chance' they wanted was a chance for easy money." - James Gould Cozzens, The Just and the Unjust, 1942

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:33 AM (HdYcL)

85 But — and this is a big one — don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Or to paraphrase Joe Biden: Don’t compare Trump to the Almighty. Compare him to the alternative.

Wherever you look in the Democratic Party, the alternative is horrendous.

=======================
Miranda Devine lays out the weak-kneed GOP, but she (and we) can do little to buck up the terrible GOP Senate caucus. What a bunch of fearful little-minded scum, led by an ass.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (zG/eu)

86 Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026

***
I see those conditions every day, including outside my door. Your description is truly apt.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:29 AM (wzUl9)
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When it's all you've ever known, you just accept it as normal.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (gnNyN)

87 This Is No Way To Fix The Housing Shortage

Getting rid of 30M illegals would be a better start than anything else the government could do, either demonizing corporate involvement or praising it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (ExV1e)

88 I'd love to do some more hiking in Colorado or New Mexico, or to visit Utah and northern Arizona for the same. But I'm not going to take any chances with cliff edges or canyon rims. And if I visit a volcano, it had better be one which has been extinct for eons.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (wzUl9)

89 No one in right mind can think with a hand gun starting outside the White House gate is going to get far past that

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:35 AM (Ia/+0)

90 Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026

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I see those conditions every day, including outside my door. Your description is truly apt.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026
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When it's all you've ever known, you just accept it as normal.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 25, 2026


***
It seems most of the denizens of this pesthole accept all the decay. I never have.

Which is part of why I have *never* felt at home here.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:36 AM (wzUl9)

91 I'd love to do some more hiking in Colorado or New Mexico, or to visit Utah and northern Arizona for the same. But I'm not going to take any chances with cliff edges or canyon rims. And if I visit a volcano, it had better be one which has been extinct for eons.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (wzUl9)

All you have to do is watch where y

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 07:36 AM (1Ff7Z)

92 I do think the Cultural Marxists Propaganda Ministry has put out assassination isn't out of the question

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:36 AM (Ia/+0)

93 And if I visit a volcano, it had better be one which has been extinct for eons.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:34 AM (wzUl9)

We hiked Mt. Saint Helens years ago. Standing at the rim was awesome . . . and spooky.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 07:37 AM (dK+Kv)

94
The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM (u82oZ)


We keep hearing about Americans who are leaving the country for Europe, but who are they? Childless retirees, single AWFLs, recent humanities grads, celebs. In short, deadweight looking for bennies. For every one of them, there's at least one European looking to come here to escape the stultifying, overregulated, mingy life there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:38 AM (HdYcL)

95 I think a tank of Shell Super is the cheapest tuneup ever.
My last 2 trucks would send the Check Eng light about every 15 to 20k miles. I think from the water gathered by the ethanol. Stupid idea to put a hydrophilic substance in your fuel system.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026


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It has a small value in cold climates, in that it isolates the water and avoids your fuel lines freezing up. There used to be a product, Heet! I think, which you were supposed to add to your tank for the same purpose. Now the fuel does it.

But it's still a crazy idea. My Buick got 34 mpg on the open road with Buc-ees E0 in it last September. I saw more like 29-30 with Shell E10 during my Kansas trip.

There was a chain of fuel stations in KS that was offering their *premium* at .30 less than their regular. I used it and got awful mileage. I wrote to the KS Dept. of Agriculture, and they found that the stations were selling 20% ethanol in that fuel and not labeling it as such.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 07:41 AM (wzUl9)

96 Skip

We have seen this playbook before, with the attacks in Europe, the US, and Russia on leaders by anarchists in the 1880s to 1914s. One example was the assassination of Tzar Alexander II in 1881.

Queen Victoria survived 6 assassination attempts.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:41 AM (u82oZ)

97 As the largest Starship EVER, V3 is a MAJOR evolutionary upgrade from V2, focused on higher performance, reliability, and FULL reusability
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As huge as V3 is, with 100 ton capacity, it is still only half as big as the planned operational capacity of 200 tons. SpaceX will get there too, no doubt. The company is one of the most incredible stories of our modern life.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:42 AM (fVNxJ)

98 I heard Band of Brothers is playing in its entirety on one of the nets today. I hope I have some time to see some of it.

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & America Haters at May 25, 2026 07:43 AM (HeR4S)

99 Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Wow. What gas station chain was that? I'd like to avoid it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:43 AM (u82oZ)

100 "TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"

Did anyone explain to her what would be likely to happen to any northerners who "pulled up"?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:44 AM (ExV1e)

101
I think a tank of Shell Super is the cheapest tuneup ever.
My last 2 trucks would send the Check Eng light about every 15 to 20k miles. I think from the water gathered by the ethanol. Stupid idea to put a hydrophilic substance in your fuel system.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026


Agreed, but driving gets the gas turned over fairly frequently, so it doesn't have time to decay. It's death on small engines, which sit around doing nothing for long periods of time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:45 AM (HdYcL)

102 Hadrian the Seventh

Very few start-ups are successful in the EU since 1990. Too many rules.

Singapore and especially the US is where most of those great ideas turn into successful companies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:46 AM (u82oZ)

103 >"TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"
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what is she talking about

Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (ZxPkt)

104 Actually in middle of a historical assassination recreation movie
Anthropod, 2016 movie on assassination of Reinhard Heydrich during WWII.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (Ia/+0)

105 Is the sixth year of drought the result of “the enemy’s economic conspiracy”? No, it is the result both of the hotter temperatures due to global warming, that cause evaporation of the water in Iran’s lakes, and of the leaks in the pipes that were put in decades ago and that the government, spending so much of its time and money on its nuclear program and ballistic missile manufacturing, has failed to replace.

GlowBull Warmering is not real. Never been real. CO2 in the upper atmosphere has cooled.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:48 AM (/+uur)

106 On March 1, 1954, four Puerto Rican nationalists, seeking to promote Puerto Rican independence from the United States, attacked the United States Capitol. They fired 30 rounds from semi-automatic pistols onto the legislative floor from the Ladies' Gallery (a balcony for visitors) of the House of Representatives chamber within the United States Capitol.

Wounded were Alvin Morell Bentley (R-Michigan), who took a bullet to the chest, Clifford Davis (D-Tennessee), hit in the leg, Ben F. Jensen (R-Iowa), shot in the back, as well as George Hyde Fallon (D-Maryland) and Kenneth A. Roberts (D-Alabama). House pages helped carry Bentley off the House floor.The representatives were treated and recovered.


No one ever seems to remember or talk about this.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:48 AM (2Ez/1)

107
Very few start-ups are successful in the EU since 1990.

The market cap of the 50 most successful EU startups in the last 50 years is smaller than that of Home Depot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:50 AM (HdYcL)

108 Tillis goes whining to CNN and reveals who he really is:
An unstable liberal who hates conservatives.

That that nasty POS called himself a Republican is scary in that, just how many more are like him?

The temper tantrum these RINOs are throwing makes a red-faced toddler look dignified.

You losers had a very good deal:
Pass the SAVE Act and Trump would save Cornyn.
You choose to play games and lie-- Trump didn't do this, you did

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 07:50 AM (73/SM)

109 I cannot figure out why Ro Khanna is always on my TV screen. Wtf?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:51 AM (RIvkX)

110 104 Actually in middle of a historical assassination recreation movie
Anthropod, 2016 movie on assassination of Reinhard Heydrich during WWII.
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (Ia/+0)


Hitler had the entire town of Lidice annihilated as revenge.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2026 07:51 AM (x0n13)

111 Quarter Twenty

Independence for Puerto Rico sounds like a good idea now. Maybe they can merge with Cuba, once the communists are gone.

I can't remember this, because it was before I was born. My parents were living in Puerto Rico at the time, but they never talked about that. I did read about it, as an adult.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:52 AM (u82oZ)

112 109 I cannot figure out why Ro Khanna is always on my TV screen. Wtf?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:51 AM
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Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: The OFF button at May 25, 2026 07:53 AM (2Ez/1)

113 Hadrian the Seventh

Right. We pay attention to the same economic analysis.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:53 AM (u82oZ)

114 Chevron put up signs at its California stations, telling consumers that California has the highest gas prices in America because Sacramento Democrats require it, by way of the highest taxes and regulatory burden in the country.

Newsom responded by calling for a boycott of Chevron, previously known as Standard Oil of California. California is the largest importer of foreign gasoline in the country, and yet voters keep electing Democrats like Newscum.

Phillips 66 terminated operations at its Los Angeles-area refinery in the fourth quarter of 2025. Chevron moved its headquarters to Texas, citing high taxes and burdensome regulations. Valero Energy Corporation, which announced plans to close its Benicia oil refinery (located just northeast of San Francisco, in 2026), has just been fined for “air quality violations” to the tune of $3.25 million

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:54 AM (/fjf1)

115 Cleanliness and order are White Supremacy. There are a surprising number of people who are accustomed to and completely comfortable with filth, crime, ruined buildings and broken streets. . . .
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026

Look at their families and relationships. Broken, ruined, and miserable. Look at their schools. Broken, ruined, and miserable.
The great promise that "when we are in charge..." has never ever ever even come close to being true. Yet, it has been Sold my entire lifetime that when a woman or a black or a hispanic or a ... is in power things will get better.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (/+uur)

116 The whole Paxton/Cornyn/SAVE Act/Thune/ endorsement psychodrama is positively sickening.

My hatred for the Republicans is only a scintilla less than my hatred for the Democrats.

Our national leadership is craven, diluted, and self-serving. They disgust me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (RIvkX)

117 We keep hearing about Americans who are leaving the country for Europe, but who are they? Childless retirees, single AWFLs, recent humanities grads, celebs. In short, deadweight looking for bennies.

Childless retirees - receiving benefits
single AWFLs - probably receiving benefits
recent humanities grads - idiots
celebs - the wealthy

So, folks who either don't need to care about Europe's economic system or aren't bright enough to know that they do.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (ExV1e)

118 Morning, y'all...

"This Is No Way To Fix The Housing Shortage"

What "housing shortage"?

Oh, they mean "free houses n' shiite"...

Heh.

Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 07:56 AM (XuXeR)

119 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"
She went down, down, down in a burning ring of fire.

So cool! Is there a video link? Man, I could watch that all day.
Awesome! I wonder if she bounced down or flew the whole way? So cool!

Posted by: Smooth Brained Malleable American In The Digital Age at May 25, 2026 07:56 AM (OoF9t)

120 Where my EBT card at?

Posted by: La'Tanya at May 25, 2026 07:56 AM (2Ez/1)

121 The great promise that "when we are in charge..." has never ever ever even come close to being true. Yet, it has been Sold my entire lifetime that when a woman or a black or a hispanic or a ... is in power things will get better.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (/+uur)
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Kill the Boer!
-government of South Africa

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (RIvkX)

122 San Franpsycho

I agree wholeheartedly. I wrote my Federal Senator the Italians and French fought harder and more effectively in WWII than the GOPe. And other stuff to motivate him. I was rebuked by my then County GOP leader. I left the GOP after that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (u82oZ)

123 Pull Up

To reprimand or scold someone for something they did wrong.

So AoC has a claim that there is something the South does wrong and that the North has the position of Authority or Righteousness.

Sweep your own front porch lady.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (/+uur)

124 "TItty-Caca AOC Takes Heat After Telling Northerners To ‘Pull Up To The South’"
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what is she talking about
Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 07:47 AM (ZxPkt)


Apparently, "pull up" is ghetto yoot for fight.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 07:58 AM (ExV1e)

125 SanFranpsycho, my hatred for the Republicans is higher than for the dems. The republicans are supposed to be the ones fighting for American values.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 07:59 AM (5P5DO)

126 But it really is amazing how these RINOs think over and over, joining with the Dems will hurt Trump.

From when they called for him to resign over the pussy tape ...
To when near 50 of them resigned to hand the House to the Dems ...
To when they conspired with the Dems to let the baseless investigators proceed ...
To all the bills they've killed to stall Trump's agenda ....
And stopping his nominees ....
To Massie, Cassidy and Cornyn ....

Over and over, as they stab themselves, they get ever more sure the next stab will hurt Trump.

Voodoo Republicans--stabbing themselves to injure Trump

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 07:59 AM (73/SM)

127 >>>We hiked Mt. Saint Helens years ago. Standing at the rim was awesome . . . and spooky.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

>I remember when it blew and trashed the whole northwest. On the bright side, the ash cleaned our streets.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 08:00 AM (D1E+2)

128 {{{Ben Had}}}
🎼 ♭ 5/4 ♫♫ ♫♫ Good morning! ♬♬ ♩ ♪

As long as we have strong Americans like you, we can survive as a civilization. You exemplify the very best in America.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:01 AM (u82oZ)

129 Denis Miranda.
KIA. 21 Sep 2010.
SEAL. Warrior. Friend.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:01 AM (oSeBJ)

130 Hasan Kwame Dakari Denzel Deon Tyrese Kato Laquan Jeffries

fixed it

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:02 AM (/+uur)

131 SanFranpsycho, my hatred for the Republicans is higher than for the dems. The republicans are supposed to be the ones fighting for American values.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 07:59 AM (5P5DO)
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Things seemed different 50 years ago, but then again, they were different. The faces and names may change, yet the policy remains the same.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:02 AM (RIvkX)

132 Denis Miranda.
KIA. 21 Sep 2010.
SEAL. Warrior. Friend.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:01 AM (oSeBJ)
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Thank you. May his memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:03 AM (RIvkX)

133 NaCly, dearest . You served this Country with honor and your commitment to preserving freedom is what keeps us fighting.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 08:04 AM (5P5DO)

134 Mitch McConnell reportedly said, “So the nation’s top law enforcement official is asking for a slush fund to pay people who assault cops? Utterly stupid, morally wrong — Take your pick.”

Mitch hasn't said a complete sentence in years.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:05 AM (/+uur)

135 Thank you. May his memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:03 AM (RIvkX)

We fought together. I think of him every day.

Today, I'm telling my kids about him.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (oSeBJ)

136 The fact that Thune remains tells me that all the other GOPe Senators are okay with it.

Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (ZxPkt)

137 They disgust me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:55 AM (RIvkX)

Push past it to enraged and vengeful.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (dK+Kv)

138 Captain Carroll LeFon, USN. AKA Neptunus Lex.

Pilot, Naval Officer, Blogger, Inspiration.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ)

139 I disagree. Any RINO is still 50 times better than a Dem/Marxist

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (YCxFk)

140
Kill the Boer!
-government of South Africa

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 07:57 AM (RIvkX)

_____________

There was a short video of a South African farmer, a younger fellow, who had moved here and bought land. He was so relieved and grateful that he could walk and work without the dread of being murdered.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 08:07 AM (HdYcL)

141 Salute to your hero Uncle JJ. Late Father saw heavy combat in Korea. Happy Memorial Day all!

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:07 AM (YCxFk)

142 Mitch McConnell reportedly said,"

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Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 08:07 AM (XuXeR)

143 Hadrian the Seventh

Western Kansas is getting a lot of those South African farming families. They are welcome to come here. We need their strength.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:08 AM (u82oZ)

144 Pilot, Naval Officer, Blogger, Inspiration.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ)

Fair winds and following seas.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, preparing for The Reckoning at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (oSeBJ)

145 Sad. Thought Drew Carey was one of the good guys in HWood. Former Marine. He flipped and is Supporting Bass for Mayor, and chewed out Pratt. Sell out

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (YCxFk)

146 Trying to decide if the town Memorial Day parade is a go or not, quite overcast, drizzling a bit

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (Ia/+0)

147 Good morning Horde thx JJ. May Memorial Day be a good bday for Americans and the memory of those who gave all.

I've been trying to keep you all up on the creeping communism in my County . Our county executive and assemblywoman a Dem Socialist are now asking the state to allow for a millionaires surcharge in this county. I'm sure the language will mean they tax lower earners "if needed"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (hpwtA)

148 The fact that Thune remains tells me that all the other GOPe Senators are okay with it.
Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (ZxPkt)


At least 26 others.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 08:11 AM (ExV1e)

149 I noted this weekend that almost all of the online accounts which saying on Saturday night that there was going to be a deal, guaranteed, were saying on Sunday that now there would be no deal after all.

It’s obvious that none of them know jack shit about what will or will not happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:11 AM (ykvlb)

150 Jonah earns a night in the box

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 08:14 AM (J4Dwc)

151 Found this article on my grand Uncle:


This weekend is set aside to remember those who served our country in the military and those who came before us and are no longer with us.

In this post I would like to remember my uncle Erwin Schilling. He married my dad’s oldest sister in 1948, after World War II.

He was born in 1918 and raised in Smithton, IL in St. Clair County, near Belleville. His father was a house painter and had a difficult time providing for his family due to alcoholism.

Erwin was working as a rural mail carrier when he decided to enlist in the Navy, reporting for duty on July 4, 1939 in St. Louis. Most of his pay went home to provide for his parents and siblings. He even bought them a small house to live in. Once at sea he made a little extra money as a steward for the officer’s mess, which also was sent home. He was that kind of son and brother.

The first destroyer he served on, patrolled the Gulf of Mexico and East Coast. Part of their mission was to act as the eyes and ears for the British Navy, who were at war with Germany and Japan at that time (1940). They were tracking German shipping in the Gulf and reporting back to the Brits. At that time Germany w

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 25, 2026 08:14 AM (WQDw6)

152 Thank you, J.J., for a harsh dose of reality and "the costs of war"

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:15 AM (q7IhF)

153 Crap, too big.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 25, 2026 08:16 AM (WQDw6)

154 I noted this weekend that almost all of the online accounts which saying on Saturday night that there was going to be a deal, guaranteed, were saying on Sunday that now there would be no deal after all.

It’s obvious that none of them know jack shit about what will or will not happen.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:11 AM (ykvlb)


And online commentary will be filled with people bemoaning they things they learned from people who know jack shit.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 08:16 AM (ExV1e)

155 Royal Farms had E0 and E10 within the usual 5¢. Then, one morning, E0 was 5.45$, a dollar more than E10.

Posted by: Accomack at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (a9Uqu)

156 Pratt will definitely get a solid majority of the votes from people who actually vote. The harsh reality is the question - is the support of actual voters enough to win an election in California anymore?

We're about to find out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (ykvlb)

157 The fact that Thune remains tells me that all the other GOPe Senators are okay with it.
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Cruz says there were at least 20 Republican Senators ready to vote with the Dems in that meeting.

1) he doesn't say what he--or any of them--did to support Trump there
2) he doesn't name names
3) from the further reports, it's implied he meant this as a warning to Trump to abandon the compensation fund-- not a warning to liberal Republicans

2027 redistricting under Callis needs to be called " The Great RINO Hunt"*
Move them into Dem districts.
Or, like TX did getting rid of Crenshaw, make their district more conservative.

* yes I know it won't affect the Senate. But it does kill the RINO farm team
Are they any actual conservative Republican Senators?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (73/SM)

158 Back in 1963, while my father was in VietNam, I lived with my grandmother up in the "Slate Belt" of Pennsylvania.
Every Memorial Day a man in a uniform would fly in on a helicopter and lay a wreath on a grave in a local cementary and leave as fast as he arrived..

I've wondered for years how long that went on.

Posted by: SMOD at May 25, 2026 08:21 AM (O7XEN)

159 Hate RINO's as much as anyone, but each one iss till better than any Dem in congress right now.

At least Murk, Collins, and Tillis vote to confirm Conservative Judges

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (YCxFk)

160 145 Sad. Thought Drew Carey was one of the good guys in HWood. Former Marine. He flipped and is Supporting Bass for Mayor, and chewed out Pratt. Sell out
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:09 AM (YCxFk)

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You would think wuth the marine training and more than enough FU money, he wouldn't give a d*** about pleasing anybody.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (l9lDf)

161 158. WOW!

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (YCxFk)

162 Ich bin ein Treuful Hund!

As a 5th Marine I had 2 weeks in l which I got 16 hours sleep; twice!
Can not imagine months! I thank those who went before. Trien my best to honor them! Japs were hard!

Weighed 195 when got to Nam.

Looked in mirror t Da n\Nang Naval Hospital. Ribs out like a polish death camp Aushwitz!

Got a scle; only 145!

Corps (hey GWB its like an apple core! Shit head!) guarntees 6 meals a week in "Indian Country".. I got 6 meals a week; along with my 1 hour a day sleep!

Have had "Riffle ear" 56 years.. BUT I LIVE!

Posted by: Ol exJarhead GRUNT at May 25, 2026 08:24 AM (XH/+O)

163
Bath for Dutchess today. She has a vet appointment tomorrow. The poor thing has epilepsy and I have had to administer phenobarbital and potassium bromide to her for the last 9+ years. Every year she has to go in for an assessment before getting her prescription renewed and this is the time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 08:24 AM (HdYcL)

164 6 year terms in the Senate are the albatross. We dodged a bullet by dumping Cassidy in La. McCain perfected it. Liberal for 5 years, conservative the year of Re-election

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:25 AM (YCxFk)

165
* yes I know it won't affect the Senate. But it does kill the RINO farm team
Are they any actual conservative Republican Senators?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:20 AM (73/SM)

It’s unfair to fault Cruz for telling the Truth - I absolutely believe there were 20 GOP Senators willing to vote with the Dem’s in this. I and others have long noted that there are at best only about 30 conservative Senators.,

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:25 AM (ykvlb)

166 163. Good luck Hadrian

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:26 AM (YCxFk)

167
"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

She fell down a volcano, so I assume she isn't inside.

I saw a brief thing recently about people calling themselves something like "volcanauts" that climb down into live volcanos.

So, now you can not only fall but get fried for your thrills. Yay.

I think climbing up and into volcanos isn't the smartest thing you could do. That said-

I climbed My Fuji buuuut at the same time so were folks 10-80 years old.

I think the risk there was minimal.



Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 08:28 AM (iJfKG)

168 Tough when a quality Senator like Blackburne in Tenn, leaves to run for Governor. She had more balls than most GOP men in Senate

Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:28 AM (YCxFk)

169 The Pratt team are out circling potholes on the roads and tagging them "vote for Pratt".

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 25, 2026 08:29 AM (7T8ei)

170 Anybody who votes for Bass or Raman are either stupid or in on the grift. Always thought Drew Carey had a functioning brain, guess I was wrong.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 08:29 AM (hpwtA)

171 AZ sees 400k removed from SNAP as ineligible.
That near 47%, they say.
Due to the new work requirements-- they claim.
That's the one and only reason given.

Here's a real clue:
"Charisma Garcia, a 25-year-old mother of two, ... ages 3 and 6 ..."

See if you can spot the real reason she can't get food stamps.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:30 AM (73/SM)

172 Notsothoreau

Good for him. He has moxie!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:31 AM (u82oZ)

173 good morning JJ, Horde

The honored dead, RIP. And thank you.

Saying "Happy Memorial Day" doesn't seem right, as it's a solemn occasion. But the honored dead don't begrudge us our spending time with family, friends, and neighbors today.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 25, 2026 08:31 AM (/6r4m)

174 Captain Carroll LeFon, USN. AKA Neptunus Lex.

Pilot, Naval Officer, Blogger, Inspiration.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:06 AM (u82oZ)
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May his memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:32 AM (RIvkX)

175 > Hate RINO's as much as anyone, but each one iss till better than any Dem in congress right now.
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They're Democrats with a different lapel pin and are a bit more circumspect about their hate for the normals.

Other than that, they are exactly the same.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 08:32 AM (jehhT)

176 One of the reasons I think Dems don't like AI is that they are realizing that Al will make it much more difficult to engage in fraud. The Biden administration might have been the largest fraud in history but it may be one of the last as well

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 25, 2026 08:33 AM (hpwtA)

177 81 The smart ones are gone. Out-migration from the UK is now including businessmen, scientists, tech workers, and more.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 07:28 AM

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The only explanation for destroying a great country is that these countys' leaders are pure evil. At least that explains it for me.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:33 AM (v71Ni)

178
168 Tough when a quality Senator like Blackburne in Tenn, leaves to run for Governor. She had more balls than most GOP men in Senate
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:28 AM (YCxFk)

Yeah, and Tuberville is leaving to be Governor of Alabama. I understand, for people who want to achieve things, Governor is a lot better job than Senator.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:34 AM (ykvlb)

179 Sad. Thought Drew Carey was one of the good guys in HWood. Former Marine. He flipped and is Supporting Bass for Mayor, and chewed out Pratt. Sell out
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Suggests why he's so awful, awkward and wooden as the host--he hates the dirty, conservative, Americans he thinks they all are.

Bob looked like he really enjoyed the guests.
Even if he was faking it.
Drew can't even fake it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:34 AM (73/SM)

180 According to the Renewable Fuel Association, a pro-biofuels trade group, roughly one-third of the corn grown in the U.S. is destined for gas tanks. Last year alone, the group said, ethanol refiners purchased $23 billion in American corn. On top of this, nearly half the soybean oil produced in the U.S. gets converted into biodiesel. Combined, the ethanol and biodiesel industries had revenues of nearly $50 billion in 2024.

Burning corn in leased SUVs to drive children to soccer games that do not have scores so that brown and black children in the ROW starve is no way to run an energy economy.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:36 AM (/+uur)

181 And to give credit where it is due... the Google icon this morning is a folded flag.

I nearly dropped my coffee upon seeing that.

Well done, Google.

Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 08:37 AM (XuXeR)

182 Looking at California and Michigan and other states, it is hard to see what other evidence people need. If you look at any time series, when the democrats are in charge, the economy is worse, freedoms are restricted, and people are in worse shape. Every time. The only time this was not clear was in the late nineties, when Clinton was in office but was being pushed by Gingrich into policies the democrats did not want implemented.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 25, 2026 08:38 AM (0U5gm)

183 At least Murk, Collins, and Tillis vote to confirm Conservative Judges
Posted by: Jonah at May 25, 2026 08:23 AM (YCxFk)
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Ketanji Brown-Jackson or Amy Coney-Barret?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:39 AM (RIvkX)

184 One of the reasons I think Dems don't like AI is that they are realizing that Al will make it much more difficult to engage in fraud. The Biden administration might have been the largest fraud in history but it may be one of the last as well
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There was a long post on voter registration fraud that went through how the serial was impossible.
But that to discover them, you had to sort lots of data.

This is the real reason blue states are fighting so hard to conceal their voter rolls:
It's not purging the improper voters-- it's exposing how they are added and laundered in.
Recall in GA, citizens were removing voters and finding back on the roll days later.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 25, 2026 08:40 AM (73/SM)

185 I raised the United States Flag at dawn. Now drinking coffee in the safety and security I have due to all our servicemen and women over the past 250 years, and especially due to those who gave their last full measure of devotion to the United States of America and it citizens. I humbly thank all of them.

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 08:41 AM (5rh/l)

186 THANK YOU! TO ALL VETERANS NEAR AND FAR.
THANK YOU for the life I have been able to live due to your service and sacrifices.
God Bless




Posted by: sidney at May 25, 2026 08:42 AM (rzwGB)

187 It’s unfair to fault Cruz for telling the Truth - I absolutely believe there were 20 GOP Senators willing to vote with the Dem’s in this. I and others have long noted that there are at best only about 30 conservative Senators.,
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 08:25 AM (ykvlb)
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Make. Them. Vote.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:42 AM (RIvkX)

188 Carey is a fag.

Posted by: The Ghost of Gene Rayburn at May 25, 2026 08:43 AM (vFG9F)

189 185,
Well said.

Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 08:43 AM (XuXeR)

190 >>Saying "Happy Memorial Day" doesn't seem right, as it's a solemn occasion. But the honored dead don't begrudge us our spending time with family, friends, and neighbors today.

Yep

https://tinyurl.com/mrewdx6h

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 08:44 AM (J4Dwc)

191 Nasire Best was an aspiring rapper, and astronaut. He was turning his life around. Always had a big smile for everyone. He dindu nuthin.

Posted by: Delurker at May 25, 2026 08:45 AM (gtcuf)

192 Light rain is ever so slowing clearing out, don't see anything different on the town Facebook page. Guess I could take a ride and see if ceremony is a go

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 08:45 AM (Ia/+0)

193 . Combined, the ethanol and biodiesel industries had revenues of nearly $50 billion in 2024.

Burning corn in leased SUVs to drive children to soccer games that do not have scores so that brown and black children in the ROW starve is no way to run an energy economy.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:36 AM (/+uur)

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And ethanol is 33% less energy dense than gasoline. Sure Senator Grassley (R-corn state) puts out scathing reports, but what does it cost the country to keep him in office?


Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 25, 2026 08:47 AM (UeLv+)

194 Greetings and good morning one and all.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 25, 2026 08:47 AM (/k3in)

195 Yesterday was really good. Rode with Dad all day as we visited the family cemeteries. Talked about family.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 08:48 AM (bss/y)

196 Host Kristen Welker said, “Some of your supporters were chanting, president, president, as you delivered your speech on Tuesday night. Are you considering a run for president in 2028?”

hahaha

Masshoe

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:48 AM (/+uur)

197 And in memory of my father, US Navy, and my uncle, US Air Force.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 25, 2026 08:49 AM (0U5gm)

198 Have a day of reflection, everyone.

We are blessed by the sacrifices of those who served our country.

Need to make preps for my attendance at
a Memorial Day event.
Afterwards, I will visit my late wife's grave.

I need to clean up because one of the widow I walk with will go with me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2026 08:49 AM (u82oZ)

199 THANK YOU! TO ALL VETERANS NEAR AND FAR.
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You want to do that on Veteran’s Day. November 11th for those who served honorably.

Memorial Day is set aside for those killed in combat.

Posted by: Jus Sayin at May 25, 2026 08:49 AM (vATra)

200 1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?

2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait?

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV)

201 Carey is a fag.
Posted by: The Ghost of Gene Rayburn at May 25, 2026 08:43 AM (vFG9F)

He is "straight" but in hollyweird that just means he's still in the closet. Most likely a chomo too.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at May 25, 2026 08:53 AM (OoF9t)

202 {Salty}

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 08:53 AM (RIvkX)

203 69
The left won't be satisfied until some nutjob takes out President Trump.
Posted by: Al Swearingen at May 25, 2026 07:22 AM (sOgXJ)

They won't be satisfied even then. You think when Trump goes away that everything will return to normal?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 07:27 AM (HdYcL)

The left won't be happy until the right shoots back. This would allow them to point to us and say "See! See! They ARE violent!" Then they'll start killing us.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (7v6oI)

204 The three greatest Progressive “reformers”—Herbert Croly, Woodrow Wilson, and Teddy Roosevelt—shared a small handful of ideas and ideals in common, despite their superficial differences—and among these was their loathing for the Constitution and the limits it placed on the federal government. All three believed in the necessity of a central authority, dedicated to the principles of the science of man and operated by the best and the brightest society could offer, namely themselves.

namely themselves

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (/+uur)

205
My Dad was a Night Fighter in the Marine Corps. He flew a Hellcat.

He flew over the Franklin after it was bombed and instantly knew that his brother was dead. His brother was a radioman and the bomb hit right over that space on the ship.

I'm named after his brother. To be honest, it's not a great name and I took some teasing through the years over it, however-

I've always felt proud and honored to carry it.

So, there you go. The good with the bad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (iJfKG)

206 Institutional investors are not the problem, they are one of the solutions. This Is No Way To Fix The Housing Shortage

I see Blackrock has unleashed their PR department in defense of gigantic megacorporations buying single family homes. TLDR: "They aren't buying up *all* the homes, so what are you complaining about?"

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 08:56 AM (f0sNM)

207 >>Memorial Day is set aside for those killed in combat.

All who died while in service, not just KIA

Posted by: one hour sober at May 25, 2026 08:59 AM (J4Dwc)

208 > The left won't be happy until the right shoots back. This would allow them to point to us and say "See! See! They ARE violent!" Then they'll start killing us.
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TBH... the left is already killing us. Several notable conservatives/Republicans have either been shot at, outright killed or have been the target of attempted assassinations.

It's a hot war but we've just not acknowledged it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 08:59 AM (jehhT)

209 Mornin’, All. Happy Monday and good Memorial Day.

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 08:59 AM (77rzZ)

210 To all the heroes who died fighting for this country and didn't get to come home. I pray the Good Lord has rewarded you richly for your sacrifice.

And to my great, great (repeat as necessary) grandfather who crossed the Delaware with Gen. Washington to slit Hessian throats and was mortally wounded. Bravery that is not readily seen today.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2026 09:00 AM (7v6oI)

211 97 As the largest Starship EVER, V3 is a MAJOR evolutionary upgrade from V2, focused on higher performance, reliability, and FULL reusability
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As huge as V3 is, with 100 ton capacity, it is still only half as big as the planned operational capacity of 200 tons. SpaceX will get there too, no doubt. The company is one of the most incredible stories of our modern life.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 07:42 AM (fVNxJ)


A major Starship V3 improvement over V2, based on this first V3 flight, is heat shield tile retention. Every V2 in-space video shows a blizzard of tiles coming off, from everywhere on the vehicle. SpaceX obviously employed a better tile attachment design on V3. I can see very very few missing tiles in the currently available entry videos. This is significant progress towards Starship quick-turnaround for another flight.

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:00 AM (5rh/l)

212 At 66, it pains me to think that there are so many of my fellow Americans who don't appreciate the sacrifices that it has taken to keep this great country upright since it's founding nearly 250 years ago. Instead of saying "hello", I greet people a lot by saying "It's a great day to be alive in the United States of America". That phrase tells people two things - first be grateful to be alive right now, today as there are no guarantees on waking up each day. Second, there are no guarantees on your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Thank the founders and the constitution for that. I am not shy about educating those people who disagree or seem confused with my greeting. God bless the men and woman who paid the ultimate sacrifice to defend this country and it's values.

Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 25, 2026 09:01 AM (cM0WE)

213 If you say so.

Posted by: Jus Sayin at May 25, 2026 09:02 AM (vATra)

214 According to a new series of studies, GLP-1 weight-loss drugs, such as Novo Nordisk’s Ozempic and Eli Lilly’s Mounjaro, can reduce cancer progression and mortality rates. One study of 10,000 patients, all with different types of cancer, done by the Cleveland Clinic Cancer Institute, observed a significant reduction in cancer progression among the patients. Lung cancer progression was halved in patients who took GLP-1 drugs, while the progression of breast cancer decreased by 43 percent.

Maybe cancer cells need the sugar and fats to grow.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (/+uur)

215 I see Blackrock has unleashed their PR department in defense of gigantic megacorporations buying single family homes. TLDR: "They aren't buying up *all* the homes, so what are you complaining about?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 08:56 AM (f0sNM)

The house where I grew up was a small, nice suburban subdivision. Yesterday Dad was saying a bunch of the houses on the street had been bought and are now rental homes. One right next to us (them) and a house across the street.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (bss/y)

216 God bless the men and woman who paid the ultimate sacrifice to defend this country and it's values.
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 25, 2026 09:01 AM (cM0WE)
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Amen

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (RIvkX)

217 1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?

2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait?

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV)


1. I think, yes.
2. As a actual human, you will not be permitted to invest initially. Better to buy into one of the tech indices (particularly if they invest in space stuff) and then wait for the initial investors to do their rug pull prior to buying to hold.

This does not constitute actual investment advice as I was a software engineer and not a money guy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:04 AM (ExV1e)

218 Trump won the popular vote last time,

This will die the instant someone not to the Statist/Socialist liking gets voted in, and they will try something new.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 09:05 AM (po3Ws)

219 On Memorial Day, remembering four men I never knew. From my dad's WWII diary, on the beach head at Anzio ten days after arriving as part of the second wave of the Allied landings"

Feb 16, 1944
The “hot” beachhead suddenly
became “hotter”. Gerry hit with all the
artillery he had at 0600 this morning. Our
work here in CB ran wild. All the CPs and
batteries seemed to be shelled at once.
Brig CP and rear area quit heavily
shelled. Chaplain Wallace, McDaniel, Pratt and Metz were all killed by a single
round. Irony of fate. Three out of the first
four killed in the battery were listed as non-
combatants...


Irony of Fate indeed

Posted by: muldoon at May 25, 2026 09:05 AM (qgHp7)

220 A Democrat with a Nazi tattoo who admits to public masturbation is very on-brand in 2026.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 09:05 AM (f0sNM)

221 The house where I grew up was a small, nice suburban subdivision. Yesterday Dad was saying a bunch of the houses on the street had been bought and are now rental homes. One right next to us (them) and a house across the street.

"You will own nothing and be happy."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 25, 2026 09:06 AM (f0sNM)

222 I can’t bring myself to trust the GLP-1 drug…. I exercise like a maniac and control my weight that way. I’m like Smith Barney… I lose fat the old fashioned way: I buurrrnnn it

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (ugElV)

223 Maybe cancer cells need the sugar and fats to grow.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 25, 2026 09:03 AM (/+uur)


I recall reading something a couple years back about people who went on keto seeing their cancer slowing. I do believe that cancer feeds on sugar and not ketones but I don't know if they've ever gotten funding to do a wider study on the matter.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (ExV1e)

224
Some men are morally opposed to violence.

They are protected by men who are not.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (2Ez/1)

225 > A major Starship V3 improvement over V2, based on this first V3 flight, is heat shield tile retention.
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NASA spent years, and millions on this back in the 70's for the space shuttle. Losing one in a critical spot could be "bad."

Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT)

226 Some men are morally opposed to violence.

They are protected by men who are not.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (2Ez/1)


You can be morally opposed to violence and still serve. You just have to believe that, as bad as violence is, there are things which are worse and, perhaps foolishly, that your government will only use violence to prevent those worse things.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:09 AM (ExV1e)

227 So no activity down town

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 09:10 AM (Ia/+0)

228 Old Smith Barney commercial with John Houseman…

https://youtu.be/aMPu99_Xvjw

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (26GAh)

229 Remembering my group of the fallen - Lt. Sharon Lane, PVT. Mike Johnson, SGT. John Cavalier. 1LT White, SGT Albert Medis.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (DuLyh)

230 Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT)


Apparently, SpaceX is still looking at improvements to the adhesive and trying to determine if certain areas can lose tiles without significant damage to the craft. They're still in the "we don't care if it blows up as long as we get good data" phase.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (ExV1e)

231 Maryland man was shot and killed by U.S. Secret Service agents Saturday evening after allegedly opening fire near a White House security checkpoint, triggering a lockdown and a massive federal law enforcement response in the nation’s capital.

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Now that The Mafia has gone underground, the Democrat-Communist Party should change its name to Murder, Inc. -- before Islam Trademarks it.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Democrat-Communist Party should change its name to Murder, Inc., Before Islam Trademar at May 25, 2026 09:15 AM (OLFlC)

232 LOL. I went to the Grand Canyon a few years ago.

It terrifies me.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 07:09 AM (qFwJc)

Two Korean sisters who defected and escaped from North Korea, see the Grand Canyon for the first time.
Goes to YouTube. You can watch the entire video, or begin at 11:25. They have a series of videos documenting their US travels, and their amazement of our country, its freedom and its people make things quite dusty at times.

https://tinyurl.com/557apb25

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 25, 2026 09:15 AM (5xuJ/)

233 BREAKING: Iran's Foreign Ministry now officially confirms that no Iranian nuclear commitments and uranium handover exist or will exist in any draft agreement with the US, calling all reports that claim otherwise a "pure lie," making further talks pointless due to the US insistence on this issue.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:16 AM (ykvlb)

234 1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?

2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait?

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV)
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No real clue, but I myself will wait. The rumored IPO valuation is crazy, at $2 Trillion (that's a hundred times 2025 REVENUE). So I expect at some point the market value will drop, and by a lot.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:17 AM (56OFV)

235 Iran's Foreign Ministry.
Is there anyone with a HIGHER level of credibility?

Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 25, 2026 09:18 AM (2Ez/1)

236 205
My Dad was a Night Fighter in the Marine Corps. He flew a Hellcat.

He flew over the Franklin after it was bombed and instantly knew that his brother was dead. His brother was a radioman and the bomb hit right over that space on the ship.

I'm named after his brother. To be honest, it's not a great name and I took some teasing through the years over it, however-

I've always felt proud and honored to carry it.

So, there you go. The good with the bad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026


I salute your fallen uncle, and your father.

A little-known design aspect of Essex-class fleet carriers was extensive un-armored compartments immediately below the unarmored flight deck (steel ribs and wood decking). These formed the overhead (ceiling) of the hangar deck. The hangar deck was the armored deck, protecting the propulsion spaces, magazines, and bunker oil and high-octane av gas tanks. Those under-flight deck compartments were a high-casualty zone. Bombs and kamizazes tore through the flight deck then through these spaces. Radio rooms, ship's offices, pilot ready rooms, and more. Explosions and fires on the hangar deck were deadly to anyone in those compartments.

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (5rh/l)

237 All three believed in the necessity of a central authority, dedicated to the principles of the science of man and operated by the best and the brightest society could offer, namely themselves."

They may mean to rule well, but they mean to rule...

Posted by: man at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (XuXeR)

238 Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT)

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I wonder if they considered "fault tolerance by having two, three, or more layers of shields (although I assume the cost & weight of each layer is rather costly vis-a-vis limiting payload weight.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:20 AM (OLFlC)

239 Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT)
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It is a recurring problem with every capsule reentry. In this instance, SpaceX purposely loosened some tiles, so they could study the stress on nearby tiles once a tile drops off.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:20 AM (56OFV)

240
235 Iran's Foreign Ministry.
Is there anyone with a HIGHER level of credibility?
Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 25, 2026 09:18 AM (2Ez/1)

Insofar as stating what the Iranian Government’s intentions are - no, there isn’t.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:22 AM (ykvlb)

241 You've never seen the corn grown for ethanol. It's not like the stuff grown for food. It's short, grown in high density and they use the entire plant for ethanol.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 25, 2026 09:23 AM (7T8ei)

242 Iran's Foreign Ministry.
Is there anyone with a HIGHER level of credibility?

Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 25, 2026 09:18 AM (2Ez/1)

--------------

Old & Busted: Bahgdad Bob.
New Hotness: Tehran Todd.

Posted by: ShainS -- Democrat-Communsts should change their name to Murder, Inc. before Islam trademarks it [/b at May 25, 2026 09:25 AM (OLFlC)

243 BREAKING: Iran's Foreign Ministry now officially confirms that no Iranian nuclear commitments and uranium handover exist or will exist in any draft agreement with the US, calling all reports that claim otherwise a "pure lie," making further talks pointless due to the US insistence on this issue.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 09:16 AM (ykvlb)

Trying to make a deal has been nothing but an exercise in futility. Not sure what Trump’s been thinking on this but unless he has some 3D chess moves up his sleeves he’s kinda lost his way on Iran. He needs to get back to the Beach Boys song: bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran 🎶

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2026 09:25 AM (26GAh)

244 230 Maybe Musk should look into what they did to attach the tiles as it seems to be a recurring problem with his "Starship."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2026 09:07 AM (jehhT)

Apparently, SpaceX is still looking at improvements to the adhesive and trying to determine if certain areas can lose tiles without significant damage to the craft. They're still in the "we don't care if it blows up as long as we get good data" phase.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 09:11 AM (ExV1e)


Starship V2 tiles were mechanically attached not adhesive-attached. Each tile had a metal clip embedded in its underside, attaching to a stud welded to the vehicle's skin. I do not know how the V3 tiles are attached. Perhaps SpaceX is now using adhesive attachment.

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:25 AM (5rh/l)

245 1) should one invest in SpaceX when it goes public?

2) if so, should it be the IPO or should one wait?

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 08:51 AM (VCgbV)
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No real clue, but I myself will wait. The rumored IPO valuation is crazy, at $2 Trillion (that's a hundred times 2025 REVENUE). So I expect at some point the market value will drop, and by a lot.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:17 AM (56OFV)


Here's the thing for me.

Tesla was consistently constantly overvalued badly yet the stocks continued to rise almost unimpeded until fairly recently.

If I'd ignored my common sense when it first went on the market and invested modestly, I be a bajillionaire (or some variation on that) now.

I'll try (I think) a modest investment in the SpaceX IPO, if I can squeak in at the opening and the cost is low enough. However, I doubt that I as an average Joe Blow investor can do that.

So, I'll wait for a bit and see if it falls enough when people take early profit when it initially rises.

Not advice, but that's my plan.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:26 AM (iJfKG)

246 I'm looking at SpaceX like Apple or Microsoft, etc.
I don't want to look back in 20 years and think, I should have invested. I know that there are no guarantees but I'm seriously thinking of investing a bit into it. Maybe something that can be passed on to my kids.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 25, 2026 09:27 AM (VCgbV)

247 lin-duh, not only SpaceX but the companies that supply it.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2026 09:29 AM (5P5DO)

248 Good morning, all, and thanks you, J.J.

May the memory of our fallen soldiers be a blessing. 🙏

Their ultimate sacrifice and selfless courage ensure the freedoms we cherish, and their legacy lives on in the peace and liberty of our nation.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 09:30 AM (NFX2v)

249 Lord, we praise and honor you, and give thanks to you for inspiring our founders. We also thank you for making this America a nation of defenders. We ask you to guide us back to your eternal truths as we once knew them. Make these memories a reminder to us today, we pray.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 09:31 AM (LHPAg)

250 Supposably Trump is telling the Gulf countries that if they join the Abraham Accords, he will put a wrap on the Iran exercise

I could be wrong

Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 09:31 AM (ZxPkt)

251 Todays Post has a story about two gorgeous twin sisters who served as co-valedictorians of their Tampa high school graduating class, and each managed to do 500 hours of service time as well. Unbelievable accomplishments (and great genes!).

But the really impressive thing is they are both headed to the Honors Program at Florida next year, as Chem majors. My wife counsels high school seniors on college applications and she says Florida (and its Honors College) is approaching top tier status among graduating seniors, like Michigan, North Carolina, or Virginia.

Florida is on a huge roll, in everything. Suck it, New York.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:31 AM (PSpan)

252 I lost a cousin in Vietnam, John Francis, just a few days after his 19th birthday.

Never thought of myself as coming from a military family but realized that my Dad and all his brothers (my uncles) served. One actually made a career out of it and retired as a Command Chief Master Sergeant. Two of my brothers also served, and one of my sons.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (3ImbR)

253 In the court of public opinion, where the 'news' media act as prosecutor and judge and jury and executioner, Trump must go through all the motions.

Posted by: davidt at May 25, 2026 09:32 AM (Q+gd/)

254 Art be NOOD.

Posted by: Brother Tim, still standing at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (N5734)

255 What is this the fifth or sixth attempt already?

--------

At least the fourth, that we know of. After the next one, Trump will account for more than a third of Presidential assassination attempts.

I had a couple thoughts about this.

1.) In his first term, a lot of people argued that it wasn't really any different than the Bush derangement stuff back when I was a kid. I argued it was much worse - I think it's safe to say I was right, at this point.

2.) A lot of people now argue that a President Vance or Rubio or DeSantis would have an easier time of it, because they could government on a MAGA platform without the baggage of Being Trump. If you think that, allow me to point out the mild-mannered, gregarious young Christian man who took a .30-06 to the neck recently.

These times are not more of the same, in any regard. This is a new world.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (BI5O2)

256 Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:26 AM (iJfKG)
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Reasonable. You might well be right!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (PSpan)

257
A little-known design aspect of Essex-class fleet carriers was extensive un-armored compartments immediately below the unarmored flight deck (steel ribs and wood decking). These formed the overhead (ceiling) of the hangar deck. The hangar deck was the armored deck, protecting the propulsion spaces, magazines, and bunker oil and high-octane av gas tanks. Those under-flight deck compartments were a high-casualty zone. Bombs and kamizazes tore through the flight deck then through these spaces. Radio rooms, ship's offices, pilot ready rooms, and more. Explosions and fires on the hangar deck were deadly to anyone in those compartments.
Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (5rh/l)


Interesting.

I guess that why a single bomb wrecked such terrible damage and loss of life.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2026 09:34 AM (iJfKG)

258 “ Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”

Isaiah 6:8

RIP my brothers.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2026 09:37 AM (u/66v)

259 The New York Times
Pope Leo Warns of Risks From A.I. in 42,300-Word Encyclical

The document marks a powerful foray by the leader of the Roman Catholic Church into the debate about the misuse or overuse of artificial intelligence.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 25, 2026 09:38 AM (NFX2v)

260 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Hotde.

Good morning, Veterans,

Posted by: Inogame at May 25, 2026 09:41 AM (Eeu73)

261 The left won't be happy until the right shoots back. This would allow them to point to us and say "See! See! They ARE violent!" Then they'll start killing us.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2026 08:54 AM (7v6oI)

They can TRY.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (5xuJ/)

262 212 At 66, it pains me to think that there are so many of my fellow Americans who don't appreciate the sacrifices that it has taken to keep this great country upright since it's founding nearly 250 years ago. Instead of saying "hello", I greet people a lot by saying "It's a great day to be alive in the United States of America". That phrase tells people two things - first be grateful to be alive right now, today as there are no guarantees on waking up each day. Second, there are no guarantees on your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Thank the founders and the constitution for that. I am not shy about educating those people who disagree or seem confused with my greeting. God bless the men and woman who paid the ultimate sacrifice to defend this country and it's values.
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 25, 2026 09:01 AM (cM0WE)
For the past ten or fifteen years I had said 'It's a beautiful day!' to everybody, a good dipstick on where a person is in their head. From now on I will incorporate you saluation. To see if they love America.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2026 09:46 AM (LHPAg)

263 A lot of people now argue that a President Vance or Rubio or DeSantis would have an easier time of it, because they could government on a MAGA platform without the baggage of Being Trump. If you think that, allow me to point out the mild-mannered, gregarious young Christian man who took a .30-06 to the neck recently.

These times are not more of the same, in any regard. This is a new world.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 25, 2026 09:33 AM (BI5O2)
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Agree completely, and it amazes me there are so few rational voices in the Democrat Party trying to stop this movement towards irrational thought and political violence. Except for Fetterman, I can't think of a single responsible voice. They all love power more than anything.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2026 09:50 AM (6txWC)

264 Thanks, JJ … my uncle was an Army combat photographer in WWII and went into the Dachau camp. I was (perhaps) 8 or 9 when he came to the house one day with a huge box of stuff. Souvenirs from the war. He gave me a German officer's coat (a colonel in Artillery going by the color on the epaulets), a Nazi armband, miscellaneous 'Gau Tag' pins, etc, a NazionaleFrauenschaft pin, and two tiny half-frame b&w photos he'd taken with his personal camera (not the Army Graflex). Those pix were of skeletons falling out of the opened oven doors. One day - maybe a year or two later - I looked for 'em and they were gone. I think Mom thought they were too much for my tiny 8-year-old mind. I still have the memories, tho' … and I NEVER tolerate being told that the Holocaust didn't happen. (hand salute)

Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2026 09:55 AM (ayRl+)

265 A senior administration official said Best fired approximately three shots before Secret Service agents returned fire and killed him. Authorities said the suspect never breached the White House grounds.

Obviously not the best...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 25, 2026 10:16 AM (ynpvh)

266
A little-known design aspect of Essex-class fleet carriers was extensive un-armored compartments immediately below the unarmored flight deck (steel ribs and wood decking). These formed the overhead (ceiling) of the hangar deck. The hangar deck was the armored deck, protecting the propulsion spaces, magazines, and bunker oil and high-octane av gas tanks. Those under-flight deck compartments were a high-casualty zone. Bombs and kamizazes tore through the flight deck then through these spaces. Radio rooms, ship's offices, pilot ready rooms, and more. Explosions and fires on the hangar deck were deadly to anyone in those compartments.
Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2026 09:19 AM (5rh/l)

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Japanese carriers were made the same way. Only the British had steel flight decks on their carriers.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 25, 2026 11:26 AM (HLgI3)

267
A senior administration official said Best fired approximately three shots before Secret Service agents returned fire and killed him. Authorities said the suspect never breached the White House grounds.

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There's a surviving video online where the dummy slurs out that the Butler assassin was a bad shot, and he could the job right. He may have been a mental case, but he picked up the ideas that were put out there by the Left.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 25, 2026 11:31 AM (HLgI3)

Daily Tech News 25 May 2026

Top Story



Tech News


Musical Interlude



I noticed when grabbing the video that they'll be touring the US starting in August. They released their latest album in March.




Disclaimer: What I tell you three times is truthy.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 w00t

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

2 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:31 AM (XyZGq)

3 Spencer Pratt running for LA Mayor:

Spencer Pratt’s team is power-washing stencils onto city sidewalks, creating visible messages where the cleaned sections contrast sharply with the surrounding dirt and grime.

"Imagine if the streets were this clean"

The only way to fully erase them? Actually clean the streets.

A great reminder about infrastructure and basic maintenance in a city that is declining under long-time Democratic leadership.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 04:32 AM (2PamV)

4 Pixy, shouldn't you be off somewhere playing ENreco?

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE)

5 So long, Paterson, NJ!

https://tinyurl.com/27asksaf

Maybe Paterson can become Mamdani's NYC's 6th borough.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (XyZGq)

6 A great reminder about infrastructure and basic maintenance in a city that is declining under long-time Democratic leadership.
Posted by: rickb223
+++
Not sure Democrat and leadership should ever be used in the same sentence.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (yAu9Y)

7 Memorial Day reminder:

https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:40 AM (XyZGq)

8 So long, Paterson, NJ!

https://tinyurl.com/27asksaf

Maybe Paterson can become Mamdani's NYC's 6th borough.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
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I wonder if they're replacing the Ukrainian flag.
Don't we stand with Ukraine anymore?

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:42 AM (yAu9Y)

9 Dorothy Kilgallen did not die from circumstances unknown.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 04:44 AM (glnUu)

10 >>>Nvidia does not support this year.

.. this feature.

?

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:44 AM (6wpGE)

11 Skip went back to bed.

538 Way too early to get up
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 03:17 AM (Ia/+0)

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:45 AM (6wpGE)

12 4 Pixy, shouldn't you be off somewhere playing ENreco?
Posted by: m


They're finished for the day. They run on Japan time so it's basically the same hours I work.

At least I get to listen to it.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (BLOW1)

13 Memorial Day reminder:

https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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And yet she is supposedly leading in the polls for '28.
What a country we live in.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (yAu9Y)

14 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 25, 2026 04:51 AM (wrsGP)

15 12 4 Pixy, shouldn't you be off somewhere playing ENreco?
Posted by: m

They're finished for the day. They run on Japan time so it's basically the same hours I work.

At least I get to listen to it.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (BLOW1)

Oh!

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:57 AM (6wpGE)

16 13 Memorial Day reminder:

https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
+++
And yet she is supposedly leading in the polls for '28.
What a country we live in.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (yAu9Y)

... or

Is SHE leading in the polls?

Stephen L. Miller retweeted
Siraj Hashmi
@SirajAHashmi
7h
And now we’re joined by Global Sexual Assault Prevention Ambassador Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez…

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:00 AM (6wpGE)

17
Siraj Hashmi
@SirajAHashmi
7h
And now we’re joined by Global Sexual Assault Prevention Ambassador Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez…

https://xcancel.com/t.co/u8BAprsRy4

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:01 AM (6wpGE)

18 Pixy speaks in a language I mostly don't understand, until I read the links. I used to code in machine language and punch cards. I don't find it too hard of a time figuring these things out. It keeps me sharp.

Moore's Law has gone over the falls into the eddy currents. Where is the direction? Cryptocurrency? AI? Interplanetary Space? We're losing our grip.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 05:01 AM (D1E+2)

19 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at May 25, 2026 05:07 AM (V0/Sp)

20 7 Memorial Day reminder:

https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:40 AM (XyZGq)

It is UN BELIEVABLE.

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:09 AM (6wpGE)

21 13 Memorial Day reminder:

https://tinyurl.com/4kjztjfa
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
+++
And yet she is supposedly leading in the polls for '28.
What a country we live in.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:50 AM (yAu9Y)


Look at it from their perspective. If they believe even half of the things they say about Trump, then it means that a corrupt low-functioning coward came back to win after losing. So, if the System is so easy/random that even he could do it... then anyone can!

They can't accept that Trump is a centurial talent; they can't even accept that he's average, let alone above, let alone far above. And since they can't accept that he's elite, they can't conceive of themselves as being unable to replicate his achievements. The demented logic of their studious unreality dooms them to be certain that Coconut Kam can do the same.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 05:11 AM (Sy6m/)

22 21 13
Coconut Kam
Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 05:11 AM (Sy6m/)

heh

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:13 AM (6wpGE)

23 Brown on the outside, white on the inside. Her mom's Brahmin; and her dad's line includes a slave owner, not a slave.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 05:16 AM (Sy6m/)

24 Morning Techsters. Feels like spring is really setting in to the high plains.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 25, 2026 05:18 AM (YZcg9)

25
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2026 05:20 AM (AMvSw)

26 They can't accept that Trump is a centurial talent; they can't even accept that he's average, let alone above, let alone far above. And since they can't accept that he's elite, they can't conceive of themselves as being unable to replicate his achievements. The demented logic of their studious unreality dooms them to be certain that Coconut Kam can do the same.
Posted by: SciVo
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I don't believe the polls at all. I'll be really surprised if Coconut Kam is their nominee. Unless maybe they just appoint her again.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 05:26 AM (yAu9Y)

27 I would like to see a catfight between Coconut Kam and AOC.

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:29 AM (6wpGE)

28 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 25, 2026 05:35 AM (VyBeY)

29 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 05:37 AM (Ia/+0)

30 "Not sure Democrat and leadership should ever be used in the same sentence.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 04:36 AM (yAu9Y) "

just put it in quotes; there are lots of words that need that treatment

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 25, 2026 05:40 AM (VyBeY)

31 Coconut Kam

23 Brown on the outside, white on the inside. Her mom's Brahmin; and her dad's line includes a slave owner, not a slave.
Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 05:16 AM (Sy6m/)

and also:

My mother used to—she would give us a hard time sometimes, and she would say to us, "I don't know what's wrong with you young people. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?" (Laughs.)

--Kamala Harris, May 10, 2023

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:41 AM (6wpGE)

32 Seymour Bernstein on Bach
Ben Laude - piano

J. S. Bach
Invention No. 1 in C Major

The video captures a master class about how to interpret Invention No. 1. The artistry of Mr. Bernstein is in bringing to life the nuances of Bach's musical mind.

https://youtu.be/RXCm6033JvM

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 05:43 AM (glnUu)

33 (Laughs.) --> (Cackles.)

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 05:45 AM (6wpGE)

34 Crazy Ivan says everything must go, no offer is to crazy for Crazy Ivan, No credit? No problem? Free doorbuster prizes every hour on all your favorite tech gear including the hottest z80 PCs. And bring the kids for their free shot of vodka, it'll be like a date night out with the mistress!

https://youtu.be/7Zf9xe53hEg


Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 05:52 AM (glnUu)

35 Evening and morning for the Memorial Day toilers and early risers!

Working today, Bunkie? And your mother-in-law has piles and she's taking it out on you, and it's a Monday to boot? Is that what's worrying you? Well, just remember:

"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 05:54 AM (wzUl9)

36 Political Mud 'Raslin Death Match
McChompers vs. McCoconuts
Four tits enter, Two tits leave.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 25, 2026 05:55 AM (glnUu)

37 (Laughs.) --> (Cackles.)
Posted by: m
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It's pretty sad when laughing like a hyena makes you look more intelligent than opening your mouth and trying to actually answer a question.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 25, 2026 05:58 AM (yAu9Y)

38 I hear thunder grumbling and muttering off in the distance, or the gods are bowling; pick your metaphor. We have a 100% chance of rain today. Something tells me I ain't gonna be able to work out this morning, and I'm . . . not sad. Yesterday's session was pretty good and a day off would not be a bad thing.

Howz ever'body doin'?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 05:58 AM (wzUl9)

39 Re Star Citizen: I'm so glad I never took a chance on that thing.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 25, 2026 06:02 AM (O7YUW)

40 Still not up yet, wait too much longer and might as well just stay here until tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 06:06 AM (Ia/+0)

41 Re Star Citizen: I'm so glad I never took a chance on that thing.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 25, 2026 06:02 AM (O7YUW)

There's a suckered born every minute.

Elite: Dangerous has been out as a playable game for nearly as long that's still updated to this day.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 06:09 AM (dK+Kv)

42 In a world where c and c++ exist, why anyone would use rust is a mystery.

Fun fact:

The Python interpreter and the rust backend compiler are written in c/c++.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:16 AM (XV/Pl)

43 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 25, 2026 06:18 AM (2Ez/1)

44 Howz ever'body doin'?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius



Great!
Off work today.
Went to bed at 11:30 last night. Woke up at 2:30.
Been up ever since. 😡

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 06:19 AM (2PamV)

45
Migrating from Python to Rust. (Corrode)

That's a big jump. You probably don't want to do It.


But "Rust never sleeps", according to a guitar playing old lesbian.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:20 AM (s9VOe)

46 Here is a c++ function:

int sum(int a, int b) {
return a + b;
}

Here is a Rust function:

fn sum(a: i32, b: i32) -> i32 {
a + b
}

Nuff said.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:23 AM (XV/Pl)

47 One of the Universal Rathbone/Bruce films, Sherlock Holmes in Terror By Night, is on Movies! It appears to be a "locked train compartment" murder so far, with the theft of a priceless diamond thrown in.

Rathbone really was the best at the role until Jeremy Brett, wasn't he?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:24 AM (wzUl9)

48 It also might be down to the fact that I’ve been looking at and using c/c++ for 40 years and that’s how my brain is wired.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:26 AM (XV/Pl)

49
My 2010 Mazda 6 has, I believe, expired. All that remains is to decide which firm is to take it off my hands.

It was my Scoutmaster car, as it served me during the time that I served in that role. Many an interesting conversation occurred in her because of that:

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:27 AM (s9VOe)

50 Its going to clear up, just seems to be taking its time today

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (Ia/+0)

51 So much rain here in Hochul country. The great lakes are near or at flood stage. Much depends on how much water they release into the St. Lawrence River. Some think that Hochul can loose, but I think her and Zohran Mamdani will one way or another win. Mamdani gets his grocery stores up at running at a huge cost, Life will be grand in NYC.

Posted by: Colin at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (CiQE7)

52 Here is a c++ function:

int sum(int a, int b) {
return a + b;
}

Here is a Rust function:

fn sum(a: i32, b: i32) -> i32 {
a + b
}

Nuff said.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:23 AM (XV/Pl)

So, that's what Greek looks like.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (1Ff7Z)

53 It was my Scoutmaster car, as it served me during the time that I served in that role. Many an interesting conversation occurred in her because of that:

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:27 AM (s9VOe)

lol

Our Scoutmaster has the same. Must be something in the upholstery fumes.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 25, 2026 06:29 AM (dK+Kv)

54 My former employer used to give us Good Friday off as well as Memorial Day. They took the former away some years ago and tossed us an "extra vacation day" bone that we could use anytime.

Could have been worse. They used to expect us to work between Christmas and New Year's. So many people took vacation time then, I expect, that they finally decreed a "Winter Holiday" for all but essential personnel, and turned off the heat (if it were even necessary) starting at 6pm on the last work day before Christmas.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:32 AM (wzUl9)

55 Could have been worse. They used to expect us to work between Christmas and New Year's. So many people took vacation time then, I expect, that they finally decreed a "Winter Holiday" for all but essential personnel, and turned off the heat (if it were even necessary) starting at 6pm on the last work day before Christmas.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:32 AM (wzUl9)
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Yep. My own employer has given us four "Winter Break" days between Christmas and New Year's. They discovered they actually saved money by doing that.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 25, 2026 06:33 AM (gnNyN)

56 @52

>> So, that's what Greek looks like.

C is not hard to understand for a lay person,

You are defining the sum function, sum is going to return an integer value, you are passing two integer variables to the function, adding them and then returning them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:34 AM (XV/Pl)

57
An example:

"I completed my report on pellagra."

"Now there's a word that you don't hear every day."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026 06:34 AM (s9VOe)

58
An actual sunny day yesterday. Went to 2:30 Mass at my usual parish, in deference to Her Majesty's wish that I didn't travel in the dark yesterday morning to the 7:00 AM Mass given the weather and roads.

It was faintly unsettling not seeing the usual backs of heads sitting in the usual seats, since I always get there early and sit in the very back.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM (HdYcL)

59 52 Here is a c++ function:

int sum(int a, int b) {
return a + b;
}

Here is a Rust function:

fn sum(a: i32, b: i32) -> i32 {
a + b
}

Nuff said.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:23 AM (XV/Pl)


Not bad.

Posted by: Perl fanboi at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM (/k+lW)

60 My 2010 Mazda 6 has, I believe, expired. All that remains is to decide which firm is to take it off my hands.

It was my Scoutmaster car, as it served me during the time that I served in that role. Many an interesting conversation occurred in her because of that:
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 25, 2026


***
A handsomely styled vehicle. The recent (last?) generation is sharp-looking too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM (wzUl9)

61 You are defining the sum function, sum is going to return an integer value, you are passing two integer variables to the function, adding them and then returning them.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026 06:34 AM (XV/Pl)

Like I said....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 06:47 AM (1Ff7Z)

62 C is not hard to understand for a lay person,

You are defining the sum function, sum is going to return an integer value, you are passing two integer variables to the function, adding them and then returning them.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 25, 2026


***
I got the C code all right (I never worked in it). The Rust I presumed was doing the same thing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 25, 2026 06:52 AM (wzUl9)

63 I never understood OOP. Write a function to do a simple operation? Nonsense.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (qFwJc)

64 It's just another Merlot Monday.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (2Ez/1)

65 JJ is nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 25, 2026 06:53 AM (ExV1e)

66 mornin yall

"Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

This makes it sound like she was celebrating on the way down.

Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person.

Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:55 AM (vFG9F)

67 Thoroughly Ot, Vanessa Freeman has lost weight and is now smoking’.
Democrats have so isolated themselves from feedback that they can’t even hear themselves.
Rained all day yesterday. Mom says the island is to have 4 days of rain. Looks like I picked a good time to go to Maine.

Posted by: Accomack at May 25, 2026 06:57 AM (QJ2Hs)

68 "...since I always get there early and sit in the very back."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2026 06:35 AM
++++
As every Southern Baptist knows:
You gotta get there early if you want to get a back row seat.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 25, 2026 07:01 AM (2Ez/1)

69 66 "Climber dies after falling 2,000 feet down volcano as she celebrated her 42nd birthday"

Anyway, whatever your troubles, be thankful you are not THAT person.
Posted by: fd at May 25, 2026 06:55 AM (vFG9F)

Will do.

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 07:13 AM (6wpGE)

70 52 So, that's what Greek looks like.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 25, 2026 06:28 AM (1Ff7Z)

αβγδε
ζηθικ
λμνξο
πρστυ
φχψω

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 07:31 AM (6wpGE)

71 *shrugs* You don't write code you care about in a dynamically typed, single-threaded scripting language.

A big part of the reason we're in the current mess is developers insisting on their own convenience over working code.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at May 25, 2026 09:27 AM (LgYtf)

72 Youre such a fucking idiot. The nVidia app has the shader cache recompile option. Youre just an ignorant big mouth women and you dont know it. Like all millennial's...

Posted by: Fisht at May 25, 2026 12:00 PM (BHEHK)

Sunday Overnight Open Thread - May 24, 2026 [Doof]

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Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday night ONT. Appreciate you spending some of your holiday weekend here. Open thread, as always. Fashion and music, as always. What's on YOUR mind tonight?

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A different time


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Remember when this was new cutting edge tech?


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Do you remember any of these old restaurants?

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Farrells is the one I remember most. The one near me was in Golden Ring Mall, in eastern Baltimore County. There was an arcade next door. Such great times!


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How about old, cheap beer? Which one was your go to? One of these or a different one?

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In Baltimore, our go to was National Bohemian - "Natty Boh" for short. We also had Milwaukee's Best (The Beast) and Shaeffer. What was the bargain beer in your neck of the woods?

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'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)

It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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My Birthday Wishlist: “Practical” Gifts? Probably not.

I’ve been asked a few times now what I want for my birthday, and it looks like successfully ignoring the whole thing isn’t going to work this year.

So here’s the current lineup. No quiet luxury snoozefest here. I’m going with fun, wearable, “yes I’m extra” energy only.

1. A Lady Dior Bag

The iconic Dior Lady Dior in classic black cannage lambskin. Medium size, please. Big enough for my essentials, lipstick, and snacks, but not so huge I look like I’m smuggling baguettes. Those D.I.O.R. charms? Chef’s kiss.
Why it’s on the list: Because it’s classic, and gorgeous.

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2. Christian Louboutin Strappy Sandals

Louboutin Marilyn Slingback Sandal. Ideal for a birthday dinner where I plan to sit dramatically and pretend this is how I dress daily.
Why it’s on the list: Because nothing says glamorous like shoes that make you walk like you own the sidewalk.

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3. A sundress from Zimmerman that made me gasp

A Zimmermann Indra Metallic Stripe Print Silk and Cotton Halter dress. It’s breezy, but elevated. It has such interesting details- subtle cutouts, a flattering twist, the color blocking.

Why it’s on the list: This one would be worn on repeat for summer brunches where I pretend I have my life together.

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4. MOUSSY Vintage Jeans

Perfectly faded Deltona Straight selvedge jeans with a lived-in look. The kind that make you feel effortlessly chic even when you’re just running to Target.
But Piper, you may be thinking, Why these? Don’t you already have a few pairs of MOUSSY jeans hanging in the closet? Yes, but not these ones in particular!

Why it’s on the list: because I love a rigid, 100% cotton jean with a button fly.

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Bonus Wishlist Wildcard:

Luxury sunglasses in a modern cat eye because I keep looking at them.

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There you have it — my very mature, very reasonable birthday wishlist. Here’s to another trip around the sun in style!

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Thanks, Piper. Hope you have a wonderful birthday tomorrow!

Don't forget to check out Piper's X page.

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DJ Doof - This Date in Music History Edition
from thisdayinmusic.com

Born on this date in 1969: Rich Robinson, guitarist with The Black Crowes (along with older brother Chris Robinson)


On this date in 1997: Hanson started a three week run at No.1 on the US singles chart with 'MMMBop'


On this date in 1999: Queen singer Freddie Mercury, who died in 1991, was honoured on a new set of millennium stamps issued by the Royal Mail.

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Comments

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1 Po pathetic girl said people out here don’t know how to drive. Said, that the people back home in Detroit were drivers, that people out here didn’t know nothin’. Little did she understand that out here, we are the best.

https://youtu.be/kLUYf6cekMA

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:01 PM (D2ex+)

2 close?

Posted by: morigu at May 24, 2026 10:01 PM (RDxgA)

3 Thanks for the ONT.

Grandpa was always a fan of Michelob at restaurants.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 10:02 PM (bss/y)

4
omg

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 10:03 PM (n7rxJ)

5 Farrell's is the only one I heard of mumble mumble years ago.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:03 PM (1Ff7Z)

6
I read ALL the content, played the videos, talked to my mom about them! -- then looked down and saw I was the first one here.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 10:04 PM (n7rxJ)

7
Piper, Zimmerman is a FANTASTIC label. I'd buy their stuff if I could afford it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (n7rxJ)

8 5 Farrell's is the only one I heard of mumble mumble years ago.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:03 PM (1Ff7Z)

Howard Johnson's no? Really?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (bss/y)

9 Evening Doof and Piper!

Thank you both.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (oyck1)

10 As for the beers... I wasn't old enough. I do remember Hamm's, Falstaff, and Burgie. Still have a Burgie bottle opener.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (1Ff7Z)

11 Pabst!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 24, 2026 10:06 PM (uTEOj)

12 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:06 PM (sAmhv)

13 I remember Howard Johnson's, actually. I associated it with shampoo and that's why I never stopped at one

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (gKWVE)

14 That Pup 'N' Taco looks exactly like a Whataburger. I wonder if there is some kind of relation or just coincidence.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (vTZFs)

15 Strange, but this Oklahoma country boy once had lunch at a Horn and Hardarts automat in NYC! Weird to me, but quite a selection. Thanks for the ONT, Doof!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (Jr+re)

16 Do you remember any of these old restaurants?
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HoJos was the one I remember from family vacations. Honorable mention to the A&W chain, too, which apparently is still around, though I haven't seen one in ages.

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (vSvIl)

17
Hot Shoppes
Home of the "Mighty Mo"

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 10:08 PM (ZxPkt)

18 MOUSSY Vintage Jeans

Wasn't that what Obama wears? Barak, I mean.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:08 PM (1Ff7Z)

19 Good evening Horde. Thanks Disco and Piper!

Posted by: TRex - low key fashion dino at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (IQ6Gq)

20 Beer ads as a kid was mostly Rainier, Olympia, and Hamm's

Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (/UBLm)

21 you take a Big Mac, put Thousand Island dressing in there, and that was the Mighty Mo

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (ZxPkt)

22 Meme: When Bulg meets Death

https://tinyurl.com/87jbfshb+

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 10:09 PM (qx7Zg)

23 HoJo was my entry into the restaurant world. I spent twenty years in food, all the way from dishwasher to manager. A few years back, I realized HoJo was gone -- no more clam strip sandwiches.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (DK5Sh)

24 Farrell's is the only one I heard of mumble mumble years ago.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Farrell's and older sister always wanted fried clams at Howard Johnson's

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (oyck1)

25 as far as the old beers, I'll go with Michelob. Most the others were cat piss.
The millennials (I'm GenX) brought Pabst back. Pabst turned out to be okay. By the early 2010s anyway.
But I'm sure the commenters here would rather drink BILLY BEER. It's the best Bill Carter ever tasted and he'd tasted a lot.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (gKWVE)

26 Farrell’s, HoJo and Burger Chef. PBR.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (2NHgQ)

27 I don't see Pearl or Lone Star in that lineup. Remember the "Weekends are made for Michelob" campaign? It worked. It boosted their sales on weekends and cratered them the other five days of the week.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (vTZFs)

28 Ho Jos is the only one I recognize. Hi all!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:10 PM (p4NUW)

29 Howard Johnson's no? Really?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (bss/y)

Never heard of it before the 80s. Too far west.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

30 7
Piper, Zimmerman is a FANTASTIC label. I'd buy their stuff if I could afford it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

The lost has been submitted. Now we wait. 😂

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (p4NUW)

31 Farrells, Burger Chef,Lum’s,Red Barn,Howard Johnson’s. I grew up in the Midwest.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (M4pvf)

32 My wife has a 4 figure "purse" or bag or whatever she bought when we lived in California. She was making 6 figures at Stanford University running their business college's IT department.

I haven't seen it since.

That was 20 years ago.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (jehhT)

33 Farrells
Cart Before the Horse was 13 scoops (I think) in a big old bowl.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (/+uur)

34 I didn't even know Schmidt was real
youtu.be/hCOSejS1SSY

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (gKWVE)

35 What about Blatz?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (/HDaX)

36 Burger Chef and Jeff

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (/+uur)

37 Thanks for a special Memorial Day Sunday ONT, Doof!

Happy birthday, Piper! May you receive the gifts you have on your wish list!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 10:12 PM (D/6p1)

38 Up "north" you could get Grain Belt . . . . for some reason.

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (Jr+re)

39 Beer list is legit. Iron City Beer is on it.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (yO07m)

40 Sorry I'm late, I was trying to order Door Dash from Sambo's.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (R+wYZ)

41 Honorable mention to the A&W chain, too, which apparently is still around, though I haven't seen one in ages.
Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 10:07 PM (vSvIl)

Original stand in Lodi is long gone, but they're still around.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:13 PM (1Ff7Z)

42 Well, my parents didn't drink but I had a neighbor who drank gallons of Schaeffers. I noticed Genesee isn't on that pic. Probably should be.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:14 PM (sAmhv)

43 Going up to Western PA on Tuesday. Planning on getting a 12 pack of IC Light. Not brave enough for regular ole IC.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:14 PM (sAmhv)

44 ‘It’s the latest fad… tiny stereo cassette players with featherweight headphones’

— ‘CBS Evening News’ (May 22, 1981)


If anyone knows featherweight, it's Dan Rather.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (Riz8t)

45 Hanson's modern dew wop.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (D2ex+)

46 Beer. Number 11 Michelob. Bottle always bottle.
Doctor took me off beer fifteen years ago. So it's been awhile.
We are about to get Summer, that's when I miss a cold one.

Posted by: Case at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (8XBuM)

47 I just stumbled across a wild Reddit thread, specifically on the Seattle group. The post was about how Meta layoffs are hitting H1-B workers from India especially hard; all these guest workers who have brought over their families and put their kids in local schools are now panicking about being made to go back in the next few months.

What makes it wild is the comments section. Again, this is Reddit we're talking about; and Seattle is, well, Seattle. And yet, the comments were basically telling these immigrants to piss off. Among the juicier responses were "drop these anchor baby scams"; "They're so entitled they make actual Americans look humble"; "Prioritize jobs for US citizens"; and "put the temporary back in temporary work visas."

If we're seeing this kind of sentiment even among Seattle users of Reddit...eh, maybe there's hope for the country after all.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (jGGMD)

48 You have Michelob in the cheap beer picture? Wasn't that Anheisher-Busch's "premium" label?

Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (R+wYZ)

49 For various reasons we are on road trips during Memorial Day weekend. This one is no exception. But I am always grateful to see the little towns we drive through celebrating. I love America.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the field in Oregon at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (/UBLm)

50 Do you remember any of these old restaurants?

I worked in a Howard Johnson's one summer. If any chain deserved oblivion, that one did.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (Riz8t)

51 Learned a valuable lesson today, if you’re going to fall, just roll with it and into it.

Also, I ran out of whiskey,

Which is sub-optimal.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (XV/Pl)

52 Hanson kids need a haircut. Fuckin' hippies.

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (oq9dX)

53 Tank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ)

54 List. The list. Not lost.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (p4NUW)

55 The largest, the "Zoo" sundae, was delivered with great fanfare by a number of employees carrying it wildly around the restaurant on a stretcher, accompanied by the sound of ambulance sirens. Another menu item that was served in a mini pig trough was the "Trough". If the person who ordered it ate the entire sundae, employees would come out banging on a drum, announce the accomplishment to the entire restaurant, and present the customer with either a ribbon or a pinback button that said, "I made a pig of myself at Farrell's!"

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (/+uur)

56 As for the beer, it was Coors. And we had 3.2 beer for the 18-21 crowd. When Olympia came to the store shelves, it was considered "exotic" compared to Coors.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (D/6p1)

57 Howard Johnson's I 'memba.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (sAmhv)

58 no more clam strip sandwiches.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin


Try searching for that with safe search off.

Posted by: mikeski would not at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (VHUov)

59 Howard Johnson's best ersatz oysters in town.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (D2ex+)

60 3. A sundress from Zimmerman that made me gasp

I wonder how they got Helen of Troy to model the dress.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (Riz8t)

61 Walkman’s are making a comeback.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (XV/Pl)

62 Had a Burger Chef in the big town nearby. I absolutely LOVE hamburgers! Those at BC were NOT good hamburgers. Heck, I may go into the kitchen and make me a good one for a late snack!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (Jr+re)

63 Farrells is the one I remember most. The one near me was in Golden Ring Mall, in eastern Baltimore County. There was an arcade next door. Such great times!

I visited the GRM arcade on almost every visit I made to my sister back in the day.

My first beer was Piels Real Draft. Think I was 12. Thanks dad...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (nbLIj)

64 no more clam strip sandwiches.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin

25 bucks
Same as downtown

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (/+uur)

65 We need pics of Piper in that sundress and those
Louboutin shoes.
Hot stuff.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (D2ex+)

66 Evening.

Posted by: RandomDave at May 24, 2026 10:20 PM (aJQbY)

67 16:Honorable mention to the A&W chain


I went to one in Illinois way back in the late 80s. Figured it was a midwest thing as I never saw one in my little part of the world (NW PA). It was pretty good!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:20 PM (sAmhv)

68 When Olympia came to the store shelves, it was considered "exotic" compared to Coors.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 10:17 PM (D/6p1)

It's the water... and a lot more.

Posted by: Whizzing Calvin at May 24, 2026 10:21 PM (1Ff7Z)

69 You have Michelob in the cheap beer picture? Wasn't that Anheisher-Busch's "premium" label?

Yes. The gold foil on the bottle neck was your guarantee of quality beer. More seriously, it was better than the run-of-the-mill piss lager IMO.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:21 PM (vTZFs)

70 I'm watching "The World Wars" on the History Channel.

What is with the History Channel hiring actors who look nothing like the very famous figures they are supposed to represent?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (kpS4V)

71 Learned a valuable lesson today, if you’re going to fall, just roll with it and into it.

Also, I ran out of whiskey,


In what order did these events happen?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (vTZFs)

72 Guess who turned 85 years old today.

https://youtu.be/_0DkuuhvaeQ

Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (R+wYZ)

73 Piper, is your birthday coming up?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10:23 PM (tcsrY)

74 I'm watching "The World Wars" on the History Channel.

What is with the History Channel hiring actors who look nothing like the very famous figures they are supposed to represent?


Where do you think Christopher Nolan learned his craft?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (Riz8t)

75 I've heard Fosters described as "Crocodile Done Pee"

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (gKWVE)

76 I had heard of Howard Johnsons, but never ate there. Never heard of the others. Used to drink Busch lite for summer thirst quencher beer. Only dropped it because of Tranheiser-Busch where InBev decided they wanted to be the beer of trannies rather than people that drank beer. Lately I have largely lost my taste for beer, and mostly for alcohol drinks at all. Probably for the best, I don't need those calories.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (AOl+5)

77 Michelob wasn't cheap beer, it was positioned and priced as a premium beer, in the days before all the micro brews.

Old Milwaukee was a buck and a half for a six-pack at the base exchange, so it was my drink of choice when I was a poor, broke airman.

Posted by: a.moron at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (X5Jzz)

78 What is with the History Channel hiring actors who look nothing like the very famous figures they are supposed to represent?

I don't get it.

Posted by: C. Nolan at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (vTZFs)

79 16:Honorable mention to the A&W chain

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Root beer float!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (tcsrY)

80 I remember Howard Johnson's, never heard of the rest of those listed.

Posted by: Case at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (8XBuM)

81 Weekends were made for Michelob

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (/+uur)

82 71 Learned a valuable lesson today, if you’re going to fall, just roll with it and into it.

Also, I ran out of whiskey,

In what order did these events happen?
Posted by: Oddbob
----

Also put the butt of your hands over your ears and clasp your fingers together on the top of your head.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:25 PM (D2ex+)

83 If youve got the time weve got the beer

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:26 PM (/+uur)

84 If anyone knows featherweight, it's Dan Rather.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (Riz8t)

Truth. Nixon laughs...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 10:27 PM (nbLIj)

85 16:Honorable mention to the A&W chain


Frozen mugs for the root beer - curbside, intercom ordered service, trays that hung on the window. The root beer was very good, especially on a hot summer night!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:27 PM (Jr+re)

86 We're stayin' in a Holiday Inn full of surgeons
I guess they meet there once a year
They exchange physician's stories
And get drunk on Tuborg beer

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:27 PM (/+uur)

87 Falstaff with a shot of Guinness init.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:28 PM (D2ex+)

88 I've heard Fosters described as "Crocodile Done Pee"
Posted by: gKWVE


Because of where Fosters for the USA market is actually bottled, I've heard their tagline expanded to "Canadian for Australian for beer, eh?"

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 10:28 PM (VHUov)

89 In Detroit it was Stroh's.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:28 PM (kpS4V)

90 I had some Fosters in Hong Kong and it was fabulous.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (kpS4V)

91 Howdy Sunday ONTers.

I enjoyed watching the coke commercial while listening to Give My Country Back.

Posted by: mindful webworker - music to sell cars by at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (0poB+)

92 Meisterbrau was the best cheap beer.
Closely followed by Black Label.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (594J6)

93 Been to HoJo's, Farrel's, Burger Chef, Red Barn. Stuckey's is not on the list.
Beers, Fall City, Oertel's '92 Blatz, Stroh's.

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 24, 2026 10:30 PM (5f8xl)

94 Closely followed by Black Label.

Mabel! Black Label!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:30 PM (Jr+re)

95 Grain Belt was a good, cheap, green beer. They forgot Old Style too.

Henry’s was a competitor to McDs at least in the midwest. They disappeared as well.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (vATra)

96 Piper, it's been a minute since I looked at the Lady Dior, probably 10 years, but the opening was horrible. Like rooting around in your own Lady Bits, and very hard to get in and out of. I trust they've improved that design. I also didn't like the handles. I did, and still do, love the charms, but I went with YSL's Sac du Jour.

Then again, I chose a Boy Bag over a classic flap, so I'm an outlier!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (Vvh2V)

97 Meisterbrau was the best cheap beer.
Closely followed by Black Label.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:29 PM (594J6)

There was always Buckhorn.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (1Ff7Z)

98 73 Piper, is your birthday coming up?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at

It’s tomorrow.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (p4NUW)

99 I remember when the NBA had some balls.

Remember hack-a-Shaq?
Remember the bad boys?
Remember when Darryl Dawkins and Moses Malone used to get hammered on every play?

This product they're pushing is a gambling script.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 10:31 PM (D1E+2)

100 Loved Burger Chef and Ferrel's

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:33 PM (THY4u)

101 I'm right here ya know.

Posted by: Zombie Billy Carter at May 24, 2026 10:33 PM (vTZFs)

102 White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo:

"Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know."

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:33 PM (D2ex+)

103 65 We need pics of Piper in that sundress and those
Louboutin shoes.
Hot stuff.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal

I can share my Venmo to get the dress! 🤣

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:34 PM (p4NUW)

104 Kind of surprised Rolling Rock didn't make the cut.

33


Also, National Bohemian was the goto college cheap choice for me as well:

National Beer, National Beer;
We love the taste of our National Beer;
And while we're singing we're proud to say;
It's brewed on the shores of the Chesapeke Pay.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (dIske)

105 @71

>> In what order did these events happen?

The falling happened before the whiskey at a Target which was not fun.

Luckily I didn’t run out of gin, so things aren’t all bad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (XV/Pl)

106 Howard Johnson's and Busch.

Posted by: Al Shabbah at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (U4W41)

107 White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo:

"Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know."

Posted by: Braenyard


That was not the Pompeotus of love.

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 10:35 PM (VHUov)

108 We're stayin' in a Holiday Inn full of surgeons
I guess they meet there once a year
They exchange physician's stories
And get drunk on Tuborg beer


I know I've heard this song before, but I can't place it. A little help, please.

Posted by: Rhubarb at May 24, 2026 10:36 PM (kc0fx)

109
Piper,

Is that really your birthday wish list?

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 10:36 PM (3ek7K)

110 I miss you so badly

WWJBD

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (/+uur)

111 Is Christopher Nolan paying Lupita two salaries since she is playing Helen and Clytemnestra?

Or is he just paying her one salary?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (2GVsD)

112 All of those beers are great... for target practice.

Probably the most I have ever vomited was from drinking too much Oly (Olympia Beer) when I was a freshman in college. I think I had like 10 or 12 of 'em and I weighed about 150#.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (THY4u)

113 Fosters tastes like a slightly hoppier Coors Light.

But why would anyone drink beer or a beer that’s not at least a stout, a Weiss or ipa?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (XV/Pl)

114 Good evening morons e grazie Disco

Our fallen soldiers, may their memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (RIvkX)

115 108 We're stayin' in a Holiday Inn full of surgeons
I guess they meet there once a year
They exchange physician's stories
And get drunk on Tuborg beer

I know I've heard this song before, but I can't place it. A little help, please.

Posted by: Rhubarb at May 24, 2026 10:36 PM (kc0fx)


Jimmy Buffet, maybe?

Posted by: a.moron at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (X5Jzz)

116 Oh, I remember "Red Barn". I seem to recall that they had pretty good fried chicken...but it wasn't their specialty. I think they pushed burgers. The chicken was a bonus.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (dIske)

117 So, are we preparing for tomorrow's infamous ONT? Are we allowed to be naughty for Old Time's Sake?

Is there anyone left who even knows what I'm talking about?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (Vvh2V)

118 proper perspective — first thing that's really made me kinda misty-eyed this weekend.

Posted by: mindful webworker - red and white blues at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (0poB+)

119 I'm watching "The World Wars" on the History Channel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
......

Me too. Trenches, mustard gas and tanks.

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:38 PM (oq9dX)

120 Is Christopher Nolan paying Lupita two salaries since she is playing Helen and Clytemnestra?

Clytemnestra sounds like a species of Australian spider.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (Riz8t)

121 Probably tried most of the beers on the post but grew up with Narragansett beer as the local libation. That beer, coffee ice cream, and coffee milk were required in the Rhode Island state charter.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (yTvNw)

122 47 I just stumbled across a wild Reddit thread, specifically on the Seattle group. The post was about how Meta layoffs are hitting H1-B workers from India especially hard; all these guest workers who have brought over their families and put their kids in local schools are now panicking about being made to go back in the next few months.

What makes it wild is the comments section. Again, this is Reddit we're talking about; and Seattle is, well, Seattle. And yet, the comments were basically telling these immigrants to piss off. Among the juicier responses were "drop these anchor baby scams"; "They're so entitled they make actual Americans look humble"; "Prioritize jobs for US citizens"; and "put the temporary back in temporary work visas."

If we're seeing this kind of sentiment even among Seattle users of Reddit...eh, maybe there's hope for the country after all.
Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2026 10:15 PM (jGGMD)

It makes Seattle almost sound MAGA.

Posted by: Joemarine at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (y171U)

123 Probably the most I have ever vomited was from drinking too much Oly (Olympia Beer) when I was a freshman in college. I think I had like 10 or 12 of 'em and I weighed about 150#.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:37 PM (THY4u)

Lightweight.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (594J6)

124 Dad was a big Buffet fan. I've probably absorbed his entire catalog by osmosis. Thanks.

Posted by: Rhubarb at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (kc0fx)

125 Yes, Stroh's. My dad and his brothers grew up in Detroit, and that was the beer everyone drank. I think Stroh's still has a brewery in the city.

Posted by: Lirio100 at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (ky7/T)

126
Andrew McCarthy got a lot of nice photos and videos of the Starship launch the other day. The massive shockwaves (changing the index of refraction of the air) are visible here:

t.ly/8mtLN

His main page there has a lot more.

IIRC, the lethal range for a Saturn V was about 800'. Within that radius, the shockwaves would be enough to kill you. I think that's greater for Starship. Of course, the minimum safe distance is a lot greater than that, that's just the lethal shockwave distance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (w6EFb)

127 96 Piper, it's been a minute since I looked at the Lady Dior, probably 10 years, but the opening was horrible. Like rooting around in your own Lady Bits, and very hard to get in and out of. I trust they've improved that design. I also didn't like the handles. I did, and still do, love the charms, but I went with YSL's Sac du Jour.

Then again, I chose a Boy Bag over a classic flap, so I'm an outlier!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May

I honestly don’t think this will be the year I get a Lady Dior. I did get a Unity bag- but it’s first edition so I don’t think I will carry it. It’s not quite the same league, of course.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (p4NUW)

128 Is there anyone left who even knows what I'm talking about?


I remember, Tammy.

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (Jr+re)

129 61 Walkman’s are making a comeback.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 10:18 PM (XV/Pl)

I thought the term was "rewind." 😉

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (rgnea)

130 Stroh's was our go to cheap beer growing up in Cleveland.

I seem to recall Michelob was expensive.

I remember going to Horn and Hardardt's when we went the the Worlds Fair in NYC back in '64. I may have memories of the place from living in Philly prior to that, but definitely the '64 WF.

There was an active HoJo's in Buffalo when I moved here back in 1980. It was closed some time in the 90's. The last active one was in Lake George ... but it's been closed now for a few years.

Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (3sXRv)

131 If we're seeing this kind of sentiment even among Seattle users of Reddit...eh, maybe there's hope for the country after all.
Posted by: Dr. T


This is typical of the liberals I know. They think liberal policies are wonderful, until they negatively affect their own lives. As I've said before, the liberals I know, including members of my own family, just happen to live in the whitest suburbs they can find.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:40 PM (0Htd1)

132 Clytemnestra sounds like a species of Australian spider.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (Riz8t)

Or Salutatorian at MLK Jr 5th Grade Graduation

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (/+uur)

133 I like those slingback sandals and had no idea what they were called.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (RIvkX)

134 95

I was thinking of Grain Belt, but I figured nobody here would remember it but me.

It really wasn't very GOOD, you know.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (RCjYY)

135 Americana at its very best

I have a theory about this - that back during the cold war America's elites felt they had to keep the corruption to a manageable level because they had real opponents and if they screwed up badly enough they could have gotten the Che Guevara treatment.

But when the Soviets felt that evaporated. Since the US was the only hyperpower...why not dip your hand in the till? Ruling the world is hard work and no one will notice...

And then 30 years later you have the Biden junta stealing $4T and no one really batted an eye.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (sKqQm)

136 Iron City beer is one of those they should have paid people to drink. Probably the worst lager beer ever made.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (yTvNw)

137 107 White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo:

"Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know."

Posted by: Braenyard

_______________________________

Cheung, in his capacity as Com. Dir doesn't give public statements like this very often. BUT every single one I've seen had profanity included. He must be hilarious around the White House. The man doesn't sugar coat it.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (dIske)

138 Andrew McCarthy got a lot of nice photos and videos of the Starship launch the other day. The massive shockwaves (changing the index of refraction of the air) are visible here:

t.ly/8mtLN


That's the coolest thing I expect to see this week.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (Riz8t)

139 Just noticed that the beer list is missing Rainier.

Not a forgivable omission, considering the old Rainier Beer commercials:

https://tinyurl.com/33kczef3

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (yO07m)

140 More cheap beer memories: Stegmaier, from Wilkes-Barre, PA. Whenever dad saw it on sale for 4.99 a case, he'd stock up. Liebotschaner Cream Ale, also out of W-B and went for about 6.99/case. If dad felt flush, he'd spring for that. Then there was Yuengling Porter. My first dark beer, unless you counted the Pabst Bock, which was a seasonal, and I wasn't old enough to handle a 12 oz on my own and had to make do with occasional sips from dad's pilsner glass. Again, thanks dad...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (nbLIj)

141 There was always Buckhorn.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
.......

and Colt 45 Malt Liquor

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (oq9dX)

142 Happy birthday, Piper!
Finally old enough to legally drink, yeah?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10:43 PM (eZ5tL)

143 I remember going to Horn and Hardardt's when we went the the Worlds Fair in NYC back in '64.

browndog, that's exactly when/where I ate at Horn and Hardart's! Just a kid, with a bunch of Boy Scouts headed to the National Jamboree at Valley Forge.

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:44 PM (Jr+re)

144 132 Clytemnestra sounds like a species of Australian spider.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 10:39 PM (Riz8t)

______________________

I thought maybe a Crime Cartel named after women's anatomy.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 10:44 PM (dIske)

145 This is typical of the liberals I know. They think liberal policies are wonderful, until they negatively affect their own lives. As I've said before, the liberals I know, including members of my own family, just happen to live in the whitest suburbs they can find.

Things wealthy leftist people I know complain about:

Their taxes are too high
Black people have too many damn kids
Young men are supposed to give up their seats for a "lady"
All these people on the roads should be taking public transit so it doesn't take so long for me to get where I am going
Why aren't there more minorities in our neighborhood (note they moved to neighbor a few years ago "for the schools")

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (sKqQm)

146 93 Been to HoJo's, Farrel's, Burger Chef, Red Barn. Stuckey's is not on the list.
Beers, Fall City, Oertel's '92 Blatz, Stroh's.
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at May 24, 2026 10:30 PM (5f8xl)

NOT THE STROH'S!

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (DwqWV)

147 PBR, $1.80 per six pack 1966

Posted by: Javems at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (zFsEm)

148 What's "White Tower"?
A White Castle copy cat? Vice versa?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (/lPRQ)

149 136 Iron City beer is one of those they should have paid people to drink. Probably the worst lager beer ever made.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:41 PM (yTvNw)

************

Second worst. Samichlaus is worse.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (yO07m)

150 116 Oh, I remember "Red Barn".
---

You jogged my memory. It was out on the highway (roadtrip), not close to anything, terrible location, would not have known it was there except for its size. Food wasn't bad. Terrible location.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (D2ex+)

151 109
Piper,

Is that really your birthday wish list?

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026


Yes, as I noted it’s my very mature, very reasonable birthday wishlist. 🤣

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (p4NUW)

152 104 Kind of surprised Rolling Rock didn't make the cut.

33



Rolling Rock was drinkable when it was still brewed in Latrobe, PA. Anheuser/Busch bought it, moved operations to St. Louis and I don't know what the hell they did with it, but the last time I tried to drink it, it was awful.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (sAmhv)

153 Yeah Michelob and Lowenbrau were a little more expensive and not ordinarily chosen when quantities desired were maximized

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (vATra)

154 The Bicentennial Coke commercial got me the thinking about the Tall Ship parade in NY Harbor for that Birthday. First hit that come up for "Operation Sail" on YT and there in plain sight and still standing 25 years ago are the Twin Towers. Too much has changed.

https://youtu.be/nppINIM3fEI?

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (rgnea)

155 NOT THE STROH'S!
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:45 PM (DwqWV)

Strohly I turn....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

156 OK, here is a fashion question.

I'm fairly thin and I have no hips.

So when I buy jeans invariably they get loose after a couple of washes and while I can always use a belt its not the most comfortable thing in the world.

Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM (sKqQm)

157 /sock and goodnight.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM (vTZFs)

158 Root beer float!
Posted by: vmom deport


I still make floats sometimes. You can also make them with grape pop.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (0Htd1)

159 browndog, that's exactly when/where I ate at Horn and Hardart's! Just a kid, with a bunch of Boy Scouts headed to the National Jamboree at Valley Forge.
Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:44 PM (Jr+re)

I thought H&H was a nifty operation.

Along with my father, and brothers, we took the train from Philly up to NYC. Wish I could remember whether we came into the old Penn Station, or Grand Central.
I remember the Cherry Pie to this day ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (3sXRv)

160 1985 in NoVa, Schmidt was the go-to. It sucked but it was $1.50/6 and when you're 17, that's what matters.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (W5mpo)

161 Cracker Barrel's not on the list. Oh, that's right
they'll be on it next year.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (D2ex+)

162 Heilmans Special Ex was 109 or 119 a six in Austin in 1981.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (/+uur)

163 Beer has to be handled correctly too. Even cheap watered down lagers will not benefit from sitting on a loading dock in the sun for a week or back of a truck or something.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (vATra)

164 142 Happy birthday, Piper!
Finally old enough to legally drink, yeah?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 10:

Yes, but if you missed last night’s ONT, it was a reminder why I don’t. 2 glasses of wine with dinner and I was prepared to tell anybody anything! And then I just went to bed.

Very sad. lol.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (p4NUW)

165

My birthday list has one item.

A day off from cleaning up the dog shit in the yard.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (3ek7K)

166 I remember the Cherry Pie to this day ...
Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (3sXRv)

...

Posted by: Warrant at May 24, 2026 10:48 PM (gKWVE)

167 Evening, Doof, Piper, and ONT Horde!
House is hot, except for the air-conditioned rooms.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 10:49 PM (8zz6B)

168 I still make floats sometimes. You can also make them with grape pop.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026

If you make it with grape coke, it’s a purple cow.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:49 PM (p4NUW)

169 I didn't see Lucky Lager or Rainier or Olympia beer on that chart. I know my cheap beers, though they may have been mostly regional. Weekends of a misspent youth.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (D1E+2)

170 Frozen mugs for the root beer - curbside, intercom ordered service, trays that hung on the window. The root beer was very good, especially on a hot summer night!
Posted by: LRob in OK


When I drink beer, I put a glass mug in the freezer.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (0Htd1)

171 It sounds like the Greeks would like a few sharp words with Christopher Nolan about his casting choices - no Greeks in a movie about Greeks.

I suspect they'll have some cutting words if he ever visits.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (qx7Zg)

172 Farrell's was sponsored by Big Diabetes
Not that a Zoo wasn't tasty AF

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (W5mpo)

173 Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans?
Posted by: 18-1
--

No, you're paying too much. Buy cheap jeans and they will shrink on you.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (D2ex+)

174 Has anyone mentioned Weideman yet. Or Old Style.

Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (QMAsf)

175 Evening Doof! Old Mil Light was the go-to beverage of my misspent youth....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (kOluj)

176 Have had fair experiences with the HoJo's, but my most memorable experience was in college days, a friend and I on a long drive, stopped for a late lunch at a HoJo's.

The two of us were the only customers in the place. We sat down and the counter and were just talking. We waited. And waited, for the one waitress to finally come and take our order.

When she did come up to us, she practically sneered something like, if you boys had been better (we were doing nothing wrong), she'd have come to take our order sooner. No idea what her problem was.

My friend, with the friendliest smile, twinkling eyes, and bright voice, looked her in the face and said, "Oh, that's all right, ma'am. We like bad service." Shut her up good.

I think our burgers arrived unadulterated.

Posted by: mindful webworker - classic memory at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (0poB+)

177 152 104 Kind of surprised Rolling Rock didn't make the cut.

33


Rolling Rock was drinkable when it was still brewed in Latrobe, PA. Anheuser/Busch bought it, moved operations to St. Louis and I don't know what the hell they did with it, but the last time I tried to drink it, it was awful.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (sAmhv)

I used to date a young lass, whose dad maintained a fridge soley for the purpose of chilling cases of Old Latrobe, and kept frozen crystal mugs in the upper freezer.

Many was the night I stumbled back home ...

Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (3sXRv)

178 165

My birthday list has one item.

A day off from cleaning up the dog shit in the yard.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 10

My dog won’t go to the bathroom in the yard. It’s too close to the house and therefore not appropriate in the rules according to Shibas.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (p4NUW)

179 Beer has to be handled correctly too.

Toured the Coors brewery early 70s. They told all of us to never buy Coors not refrigerated. They didn't (then) pasteurize their beer and it went south pretty fast if warmed.

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (Jr+re)

180 Yes, as I noted it’s my very mature, very reasonable birthday wishlist. 🤣
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (p4NUW)

I got my eyes fixed this year, so now I have a bunch of lovely cheap sunglasses--all cat eyes, all in obnoxious colors, including one that's black with white polka dots--and a pile of cheap cheaters, likewise cat eyes, one pink, one green. With chains. Likewise, very mature, very reasonable, and one hell of a lot of fun.

I had blue cat-eye glasses in 2nd grade and I never got over those, I suppose. Stylish is just as functional as... well... functional.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:52 PM (DwqWV)

181 62 Had a Burger Chef in the big town nearby. I absolutely LOVE hamburgers! Those at BC were NOT good hamburgers. Heck, I may go into the kitchen and make me a good one for a late snack!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:19 PM (Jr+re)

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I grew up a few blocks from a Burger Chef and thought their burgers and fries were great. I ate at a different BC across town (Louisville) one time and the burger was way overcooked and had no seasoning and it was dry as hell. I think it depends on the franchise owner. They definitely didn't have the same quality control across franchises like McDonald's does.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 24, 2026 10:52 PM (THY4u)

182 Agamemnon should have read the warning label - Do not take Clytemnestra if Clytemnestra is not for you.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 10:52 PM (2GVsD)

183 Let it be Lowenbrau

Translates to roughly the low gal, the cheap whore

Save the bucks as you dick dont know the diff.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:53 PM (/+uur)

184 89 In Detroit it was Stroh's.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Back in the seventies, I went on a " factory tour" of Stroh's in Detroit. You didn't even have to go on the tour. They just took you to a hospitality room where you were given free beer and sandwiches, and watched Stroh's commercials. Best factory tour evah.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:53 PM (0Htd1)

185 172 Farrell's was sponsored by Big Diabetes
Not that a Zoo wasn't tasty AF
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 10:50 PM (W5mpo)

I think most of my cousins worked at Farrell's, so of course, we had to go there to support them when we were in Seattle... at least, I think that was the excuse.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:54 PM (DwqWV)

186 Can Mamdani fix NYC?

https://tinyurl.com/3kw7zf5r

https://tinyurl.com/4f5efdme

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (ndZc7)

187 Yes, Stroh's. My dad and his brothers grew up in Detroit, and that was the beer everyone drank. I think Stroh's still has a brewery in the city.
Posted by: Lirio100

Beechwood Aged

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (/lPRQ)

188 No love for Stag beer? It’s as if I don’t know you people any more.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (ZTJjv)

189 ... Beechwood Aged
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (/lPRQ)

***coughBudweisercough***

Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:56 PM (3sXRv)

190 Translates to roughly the low gal, the cheap whore

or, maybe, Lion's Brew . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:56 PM (Jr+re)

191 Avs going down in flames

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (ZxPkt)

192 Can Mamdani fix NYC?

https://tinyurl.com/3kw7zf5r

https://tinyurl.com/4f5efdme
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 10:55 PM (ndZc7)

He's going to spay or neuter every New Yorker?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (qx7Zg)

193 She's cute and makes cool post-punk songs.

https://tinyurl.com/3vk5ccvt

Otherwise, hello folks.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (CHHv1)

194 Best factory tour evah.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 10:53 PM (0Htd1)

Went to Wash U in StL. Did the Anheiser Busch tour repeatedly. They have cool pretzels in the shape of the Anheiser "A", and all the beer you can put down in about 15 minutes. Plus, Clydesdales and Dalmatian puppies, and a really high wooden moving staircase. Pre-Escalator, I believe. Anyway, it's a very cool tour and lots of free beer.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10:57 PM (DwqWV)

195 He's going to spay or neuter every New Yorker?


uh oh, Ace . . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 10:58 PM (Jr+re)

196 Primo
Hawaiian Beer starts with P

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:58 PM (/+uur)

197 I don't even know what the brand of beer we drank in college was. Both the Oar House and Papa Joe's had draft beer so cheap you could get a bucket of beer for $4.

Not a bucket full of bottled beer. No. Rather a real bucket full of beer. After my freshman year they no longer served any drinks in glass pitchers. Someone, I won't say who, learned those dumbasses that one could use it as a weapon.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2026 10:58 PM (vhPr1)

198 Farrell's has a tragic claim to fame.

Back in 1971, a civilian owned Canadair Sabre failed to get airborne at Sacramento airport, skipped over the perimeter road, crashed into a shopping center parking lot, and ploughed into a Farrell's ice cream shop full of parents and kids.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (2GVsD)

199 There is Four Xs in Austrailia
XXXX is Australian for BEER

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (/+uur)

200 Sometimes one thinks, one asks oneself, where is Taylor Lorenz brain?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (D2ex+)

201 Mickeys Big Mouth

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (oq9dX)

202 Ersatz bagels, really?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (D2ex+)

203 Walkman’s are making a comeback.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


For heaven's sake, why? With what? Cassettes?

Cell with wireless headphones is all you need. Your own saved playlist, or infinite sources online.

Posted by: mindful webworker - what is this, 1980s? at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (0poB+)

204 It isn't American, but the worst and cheapest beer I ever encountered was San Miguel in Spain. They used formaldehyde as a preservative! It was bad.

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (Jr+re)

205 156 OK, here is a fashion question.

I'm fairly thin and I have no hips.

So when I buy jeans invariably they get loose after a couple of washes and while I can always use a belt its not the most comfortable thing in the world.

Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM

Jeans bagging out can be a problem, especially jeans with stretch, but you might be buying them too big to start. If you can handle the break in, find 100% cotton, like zero stretch at all, in the slimmest fit you can handle.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (p4NUW)

206 I still make floats sometimes. You can also make them with grape pop.
Posted by: nerdygirl

If you make it with grape coke, it’s a purple cow.
Posted by: Piper


Translation note for Northerners: that's "grape soda" or "grape pop." I don't think coca-cola comes in grape.

Posted by: The Narrator at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (VHUov)

207 Like Queers For Palestine and Chickens For the Colonel.

Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
On our way to Bangor, Maine for a rally with @grahamformaine.
The crises facing our country are too serious for establishment politics and tinkering around the edges.
We need candidates like Graham who will take on the greed of the oligarchs and deliver for working families.

-
"Nazi Schmazi," Bernie explained.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (ndZc7)

208 It isn't American, but the worst and cheapest beer I ever encountered was San Miguel in Spain. They used formaldehyde as a preservative! It was bad.

So that is where the Dominican Republic stole the recipe for their El Presidente beer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (2GVsD)

209 200 Sometimes one thinks, one asks oneself, where is Taylor Lorenz brain?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal

As my Mexican nanny used to say, it has fallen out of her face.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (p4NUW)

210 ploughed into a Farrell's ice cream shop full of parents and kids.

I'd forgotten that one. Was stationed in Sacto a few years later and saw the empty place where the joint HAD been.

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:01 PM (Jr+re)

211 Thank you, narrator!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (p4NUW)

212 When we floated the Yellowstone river we would load up on Schmidt Animal beer. There was no reason to buy anything better as more often than not you had to put your beer down as you hit the rapids. In the ensuing run through the rapids, the beer spilled or fell to the bottom of the raft. Though, sometimes the river water improved the taste.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (IYeV+)

213 201 Mickeys Big Mouth
Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (oq9dX)

Mickey's WIDE Mouth. A college beer staple. How many drunken asshats cut themselves on the pull-lids?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (DwqWV)

214 Oh, I remember "Red Barn".
---

You jogged my memory. It was out on the highway (roadtrip), not close to anything, terrible location, would not have known it was there except for its size. Food wasn't bad. Terrible location.

Posted by: Braenyard
==

The Red Barn in Van Rapids Michigan was an indoor adult movie theater. Same architecture so may have been the restaurant in a previous life.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:02 PM (/lPRQ)

215 If anyone is still interested in my washer issues, I was just about ready to tear into it, and decided to try running it, and it is running just fine. I can't make it fault out, or stop running.
I ran a hose and a power cord to the back yard and ran three loads of laundry. Couldn't make it not work.

Since it is already in the back yard, I plan to strip the cabinet off it and strip and repaint the rusty area around the bleach well tomorrow.

It might be the electro-mechanical timer. It is the one part that could mean an intermittent fault.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rbvCR)

216 “ I have commanded those I prepared for battle; I have summoned my warriors to carry out my wrath— those who rejoice in my triumph.”

Isaiah 13.3

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (hZXic)

217 Sometimes one thinks, one asks oneself, where is Taylor Lorenz brain?

Posted by: Braenyard

Mickeys Big Mouth
Posted by: wth

-----
Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (qx7Zg)

218 We called OB beer off base in Korea during the early 70s “tree frog beer” as it tasted so green.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (ZTJjv)

219 Credence Clearwater Revival took the "clear water" slogan from Olympia Beer for part of their name.

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rgnea)

220 The beers are biased toward the Northeast and Midwest. Missing are such brands as Rainier, Olympia, Coors, Lone Star, and Henry Weinhart's.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 24, 2026 11:04 PM (7Lzky)

221 Let's see. Farrell's had really good ice cream although Milwaukee Custard was better. I remember they had signs asking people not to smoke since it would effect the taste of the ice cream. My dad was a big fan of Lum's patty melts and onion rings. HoJo's was a very occasional family treat. I miss Red Barn. Their chicken was decent and they had a great all you can eat salad bar and it was inexpensive for the quality. Burger Chef was just another fast food burger place, nothing special.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 11:04 PM (yTvNw)

222 Translation note for Northerners: that's "grape soda" or "grape pop." I don't think coca-cola comes in grape.
Posted by: The Narrator at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (VHUov)

I, like an idiot, tried to order a "pop" passing through the Atlanta airport. I think I got the "bless yer heart" look in response.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:04 PM (DwqWV)

223 I'm not quite as 29 as some of y'all. The cheap shit beers of my youth were Keystone and Icehouse.

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (VHUov)

224 I got my eyes fixed this year, so now I have a bunch of lovely cheap sunglasses--all cat eyes, all in obnoxious colors, including one that's black with white polka dots--and a pile of cheap cheaters, likewise cat eyes, one pink, one green. With chains. Likewise, very mature, very reasonable, and one hell of a lot of fun.

I had blue cat-eye glasses in 2nd grade and I never got over those, I suppose. Stylish is just as functional as... well... functional.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 10

I love this!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (p4NUW)

225 ==

The Red Barn in Van Rapids Michigan was an indoor adult movie theater. Same architecture so may have been the restaurant in a previous life.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Did it have a Green Door?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (D2ex+)

226 Primo
Hawaiian Beer starts with P
Posted by: r hennigantx
.....

So does poi.

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (oq9dX)

227 “ But the Lord is with me like a mighty warrior; so my persecutors will stumble and not prevail. They will fail and be thoroughly disgraced; their dishonor will never be forgotten.”

Jeremiah 20:11

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (hZXic)

228 Heidelberg! 🍻

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (rgnea)

229 I love the polite but firm way the White House is dealing with the ceasefire critics:

"Shut your whore mouth!" about covers it, right?

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (RCjYY)

230 America, F*ck Yeah!

https://tinyurl.com/2p6m3pam

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (ndZc7)

231 Ted Drewes Frozen Custard in St Louis has, by far, the best frozen custard anywhere, but I would certainly settle for Culver's, particularly if I get it in Sauk Prairie, WI at the mothership.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (DwqWV)

232 > Farrell's was sponsored by Big Diabetes
Not that a Zoo wasn't tasty AF
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Hot fudge nutty-nutty.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (jehhT)

233 Buckhorn beer. We found a 6er in a river after a 10 mile hike and we decided to drink it. Don't know how long it was there, but we managed to choke down most of it because we were thirsty.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (D1E+2)

234 tcn, we called just about any soft drink other than Coca Cola pop here in Oklahoma, especially fruit flavored stuff. Got blank stares in Georgia later - but no Bless Yer Heart look!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (Jr+re)

235
Re those enormous shockwaves. Damping those is the main purpose of the water deluge system. I remember as a little kid back in the Apollo days, the water deluge was explained as protecting the pad from the intense heat of the rocket flame plume and blast.

It does that, but that "direct fire heat" is not the majority. The majority comes from the shockwaves, which is why they call it the "sound suppression system" sometimes. It's enough to flash water to steam right there.

Just imagine "sound" that powerful. Enough energy to flash water to steam.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 11:07 PM (w6EFb)

236 Avs going down in flames
Posted by: Don Black


What the heck happened? After they stomped a mudhole in my Wild, I figured they were already engraving names on the Cup.

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov)

237 Mrs. MKC and I both loved Michelob Light. Extremely drinkable for a national brand. Bastards did away with it during the plandemic.

Another reason Fauci needs to meet up with a the business end of a silage cutter....

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (kOluj)

238 IF I had been paying attention to Christopher Nolan last year, I would have known his butchering of The Odyssey was a foregone conclusion.

Found a video from a year ago on YouTube, Nolan paid to have shipped from Norway to Greece a Viking longship.

Wouldn't it have been cheaper just to pay the Greeks to build a Mycenean warship of the time of the Iliad?

Authenticity schmaltzticity.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (2GVsD)

239 I'm not quite as 29 as some of y'all. The cheap shit beers of my youth were Keystone and Icehouse.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (VHUov)


Icehouse was pretty good. I remember Red Dog aground the same time. Were they related?

Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:09 PM (QMAsf)

240 219 Credence Clearwater Revival took the "clear water" slogan from Olympia Beer for part of their name.
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rgnea)

"It's the water.... and a lot more." They never said what the lot more consisted of, but I have my guess.

Also, nothing wrong with Henry Weinhart. Plus they made a damned fine cream soda.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:10 PM (DwqWV)

241 The Red Barn in Van Rapids Michigan was an indoor adult movie theater. Same architecture so may have been the restaurant in a previous life.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
---

Did it have a Green Door?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:06 PM (D2ex+

Did it have Feel-Around?

https://youtu.be/rjm_zmBoxjw

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:10 PM (qx7Zg)

242 Anna, it's worse. The Greeks paid Nolan 6.5 million euros to produce the Odyssey for national representation.
Metatron is livid

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:11 PM (gKWVE)

243 We didn't have a HoJos close so the only time we ate there was during our annual summer trip east via the Penna Turnpike. HoJos had to food concession at the rest plazas then. They always rolled their eyes at having to seat the 10 of us.

Once, we accidently left little Martha behind and Mom and Dad knew something was wrong but didn't figure it out for ten minutes or so after we were back on the road.

Dad pulled a Uooie, you could do that then, and we headed back to retrieve her. I still remember pulling up to her sitting on the curb in front of the restaurant with a VERY pissed off PA State Trooper.

Good times. Good times.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2026 11:12 PM (vhPr1)

244 Buckhorn beer. We found a 6er in a river after a 10 mile hike and we decided to drink it. Don't know how long it was there, but we managed to choke down most of it because we were thirsty.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
......

That's some quality beer that got tossed in the river!

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2026 11:12 PM (oq9dX)

245 I'm not quite as 29 as some of y'all. The cheap shit beers of my youth were Keystone and Icehouse.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:05 PM (VHUov)

Icehouse was pretty good. I remember Red Dog aground the same time. Were they related?
Posted by: Doof


I forgot Red Dog. It and Icehouse were both Miller products. Supposedly a notch above the cheapo labels, but not really.

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:12 PM (VHUov)

246 Red Dog was terrible.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (gKWVE)

247 Also, nothing wrong with Henry Weinhart. Plus they made a damned fine cream soda.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:10 PM (DwqWV)

Henry's folded but has been brewed under license thru a Eugene Oregon Brewer, Hop Valley. I still grab some from time to time. I really miss Henry's Dark tho.

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (rgnea)

248 I wonder if Greece can charge Nolan with theft and cultural vandalism. I want Interpol to issue a red notice on him.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (2GVsD)

249 What the heck happened? After they stomped a mudhole in my Wild, I figured they were already engraving names on the Cup.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov)

There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (1Ff7Z)

250 Mickey's WIDE Mouth. A college beer staple. How many drunken asshats cut themselves on the pull-lids?
Posted by: tcn in AK

The lid comes all the way off the bottle before you put your lips to it to drink.
/ legal notice

Now I know why they switched to twist-offs.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (/lPRQ)

251 Translation note for Northerners: that's "grape soda" or "grape pop." I don't think coca-cola comes in grape.
Posted by: The Narrator


Calling "pop" "soda" just sounds pretentious to me. I would feel like I had to hold my pinky out when I drank it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (0Htd1)

252 Red Dog was terrible.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (gKWVE)

Nor terrible. Sufficiently whelming.

Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (QMAsf)

253 I actually read a book once about the Strohs' beer family owners.

It wasn't that long ago-- remember the Swedish Bikini Team parody commercial (all gay guys) on SNL? That was a Strohs ad. John Candy was in the parody commercial.

Anyway, Anheuser-Busch tried to buy Strohs out. The Strohs owners decided to duke it out with AB, instead... with predictable results.

A LOT of these nostalgia beers we're discussing tonight were not nimble enough to work around (& survive) the brewery industry's yuuge consolidation.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:16 PM (RCjYY)

254 >>>That's some quality beer that got tossed in the river!

Posted by: wth

>Most likely it was the victim of a boat wreck and it washed up near shore.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 11:17 PM (D1E+2)

255 If that Pup & Taco roof were extended to the ground, it would pass for Der Weinerschnitzel.

When I resided briefly (but not briefly enough) in Little Rock, I alternated between the Roy Rogers RB place and a burger chain called Minuteman. I think RR may still have a restaurant somewhere. Probably not Minuteman.

I couldn't really afford to go out to eat much, but had to do something to get out of my dark, stuffy closet of a residence.

Another classy memory: I was sitting on the hood of my car in the parking lot of one of those places, eating my food and reading some SF paperback. A cop pulled up to talk to me; said he'd had a report of some kid "freaking out" in the parking lot. I said, yeah, sitting here reading a book probably seems like freaking out to some folks.

The cop and I chatted a bit. I looked at the seal on the car door and read the Latin logo, "Populus Regnat," I read, "The people rule."

"Is that what it means?" asks the cop. Yeah, I said. He sourly replied, "Not anymore they don't." And off he went.

Posted by: mindful webworker - and that was back in the better olde days at May 24, 2026 11:17 PM (0poB+)

256 I would feel like I had to hold my pinky out when I drank it.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM (0Htd1)

Pop was a luxury item in our house growing up, brother and I got to share one can of orange or grape pop on the last day of school, assuming we got good grades. Also, the occasional float for dessert if Dad was in the mood for one. Now it's ubiquitous, which is a shame. It used to be quite the treat.

I can't have it any more, so I guess it's back to being a rare treat, so that's okay.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 11:18 PM (DwqWV)

257 Soda fountain and soda jerk. Not pop fountain or pop jerk.

Although I do recall a soda called Drink Me Pop.

Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:18 PM (QMAsf)

258 yayyy there's an honest trailer for Ryan Gosling Saves The Galaxy
youtu.be/QurZzARCihA

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:19 PM (gKWVE)

259 Icehouse was fine. It worked. And by "worked" I mean it killed all sensory input and allowed calmness (before the vomiting).

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 11:20 PM (CHHv1)

260 252 Red Dog was terrible.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (gKWVE)

Nor terrible. Sufficiently whelming.
Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:15 PM
***
Red Dog was at least whelming. Not terrible at that price point. Nice to see it remembered here.

Posted by: TRex - Red Dog drinker dino at May 24, 2026 11:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

261 A few of us, mostly former service members, went out to the cemetery in my hometown Friday afternoon. Placed US flags alongside all the veteran's graves. As may be typical for smaller, middle America towns, there are a lot of flags up for tomorrow's Memorial Day service. There are two tombstones with names and dates for two WW2 men who didn't come home and their bodies are in the ocean. Each year at this time I remember that my dad and his fellow soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors just didn't talk about those times often. It's a serious date here.

That's all for me tonight. I'll tune in again tomorrow to see what happens!

Posted by: LRob in OK at May 24, 2026 11:20 PM (Jr+re)

262 203 Walkman’s are making a comeback.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

For heaven's sake, why? With what? Cassettes?

Cell with wireless headphones is all you need. Your own saved playlist, or infinite sources online.
Posted by: mindful webworker - what is this, 1980s? at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (0poB+)

---------

I'm waiting for wax tubes to come back.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:21 PM (u/oMr)

263 I ran a hose and a power cord to the back yard and ran three loads of laundry. Couldn't make it not work.

Since it is already in the back yard, I plan to strip the cabinet off it and strip and repaint the rusty area around the bleach well tomorrow.

It might be the electro-mechanical timer. It is the one part that could mean an intermittent fault.
Posted by: Kindltot
===

Show some class and put in the front yard.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (/lPRQ)

264 Henry's folded but has been brewed under license thru a Eugene Oregon Brewer, Hop Valley. I still grab some from time to time. I really miss Henry's Dark tho.
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (rgnea)

Henry's makes my go to root beer. Though I use A&W for my floats. Grandkids absolutely love the cream sodas. They make a point of raiding the fridge for them when they come over.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (IYeV+)

265 And every once in a while, the jumbo oil can known as Fosters.

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (rgnea)

266
So we were promised some earth-shattering event this weekend? What happened? Except the Avs are now down 3 games to none against Vegas.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (HdYcL)

267 248 I wonder if Greece can charge Nolan with theft and cultural vandalism. I want Interpol to issue a red notice on him.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 11:13 PM (2GVsD)

I want them to put him through the agoge

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (xcxpd)

268 Duff beer deserves a mention!

Posted by: TRex - duffman dino at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

269 Posted by: browndog says woof at May 24, 2026 10:51 PM (3sXRv)
______________________

Coolest thing about Rolling Rock was the large number 33 stamped on every bottle. There were all kinds of theories as to what it meant. They finally admitted that the guy designing the bottle screwed up way back in 1939. It was his margin notes and it was mistaken for part of the design....(something to do with font size). As Rolling Rock used returnable bottles...the "33" endured. And, eventually they just made it part of their modern lables. People came up with all kinds of outlandish rationailizations including 1933 (end of prohibition), 33 words total on the side of the bottle. 33 steps to the brewmaster's office from the brewery....etc.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (dIske)

270 soda pop is what it is

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (D2ex+)

271 Schlitz was the #1 beer in American for decades. It was really good.

Posted by: Happy at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (iiHzL)

272
OK, so every mass-produced beer in the US is awful. That's all I get told. Are mass-produced foreign beers any better?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (HdYcL)

273 Did anybody mention Hamms-- from The Land of Sky Blue Waters? Hamms the beer refreshing.

Hamms used to sponsor about half the major sports events on TV, as I recall.

Anybody remember. St. Louis' own Griesedieck Beer? Pronounced "Greasy Dick"? According to Wiki, Griesedieck Brewery still exists... but I haven't seen one of their branded beers in at least 40 years.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:25 PM (RCjYY)

274 The first Saturn V launch Apollo 4 (unmanned) didn’t have the water deluge system setup yet. It was much louder than the other launches. This was where Uncle Walter Cronkite started getting concerned, as the walls of the press box started shaking and the ceiling started falling apart. I’ve read the vibrations were really something at a Saturn V launch.

I remember vaguely our parents talking about driving down for a launch in the latter years but it was quite a drive and commitment. Launch delays or scrubbed missions were always a possibility

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (vATra)

275 Henry's makes my go to root beer. Though I use A&W for my floats. Grandkids absolutely love the cream sodas. They make a point of raiding the fridge for them when they come over.
Posted by: Beartooth at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (IYeV+)

Never knew that about their root beer. Might keep an eye out for some.

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (rgnea)

276 Lucky Lager had the concentration type puzzles inside the cap.

Posted by: Cosda at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (CLMmB)

277 Cell with wireless headphones is all you need. Your own saved playlist, or infinite sources online.
Posted by: mindful webworker - what is this, 1980s? at May 24, 2026 10:59 PM (0poB+)

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I'm waiting for wax tubes to come back.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:21 PM (u/oMr)

I'd rather get 45's first, and a home jukebox!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (qx7Zg)

278
48 You have Michelob in the cheap beer picture? Wasn't that Anheisher-Busch's "premium" label?
Posted by: tankdemon at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM

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We considered it the good stuff.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 11:27 PM (t1fZA)

279 266
So we were promised some earth-shattering event this weekend? What happened? ...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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It's about 7 AM in Tehran so nothing's happening over there.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:27 PM (D2ex+)

280 My one memory of HoJo's is grabbing a late-nite meal with my dad after he picked me up at the airport for a visit. There was a tremendous crashing sound, and we turned to see a semi-truck plummeting off an overpass onto the street below. The driver apparently swerved to avoid an oncoming car and breached the guard rail.

Posted by: PabloD at May 24, 2026 11:28 PM (PCZFY)

281 Pacifico is a decent Budweiser clone. I’d say they beat Budweiser at their game. Nice and crisp, good summer beer.

Prohibition killed American beer for a hundred years. Prior to that every town of any size had a brewery.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:28 PM (vATra)

282 @amuse

TEXAS SENATE RACE:
James Talarico (CIS) claims to oppose dark money. It turns out his super PAC is funded by the darkest money imaginable ...from Epstein associate Reid Hoffman, ...

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:30 PM (D2ex+)

283 Think what the country was like in 1972. I don't want to go back there. And we elected Carter in 1976.

The Turning Point type kids are more numerous than you might think.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:30 PM (qrzX6)

284 Duff beer deserves a mention!
Posted by: TRex - duffman dino at May 24, 2026 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

I prefer Alamo.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:32 PM (qrzX6)

285 OK, so every mass-produced beer in the US is awful. That's all I get told. Are mass-produced foreign beers any better?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 11:24 PM (HdYcL)

They really aren't awful, there just so-so. Average. Whelming.
Plenty of the same from other countries. Labatts and Molson from Canada. Harp and Smithwicks from across the pond. Varying degrees of whelm. Nothing great about them. But they don't need to be great.

Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 11:32 PM (QMAsf)

286 A PNW restaurant chain long gone as far as I know is Royal Fork. Buffet style dining for families on a budget.

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:33 PM (rgnea)

287 Iron City beer was not good. Sorry to those in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:33 PM (qrzX6)

288 287 Iron City beer was not good. Sorry to those in Pittsburgh.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:33 PM (qrzX6)

Mmmm. Tastes like slag.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 11:35 PM (bss/y)

289 " Iron City beer was not good. Sorry to those in Pittsburgh"
************
Iron City was made for people who breathed in coal dust or sweated in a steel mill. It didn't need to be good.

Posted by: Cosda at May 24, 2026 11:35 PM (CLMmB)

290 278

Michelob still IS one of AB's premium beers.

In answer to the question about whether mass-produced foreign beers are better than their U.S. counterparts, I would say it depends on what "mass produced" means in the European context.

Several German beers (and Guinness extra stout too) are clearly better, imo, than anything available in the U.S...., but what does "mass produced" mean?

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:36 PM (RCjYY)

291 156, for the opposite reason as me... maybe try suspenders? No lack-a-friction to frustrate you.

Posted by: RandomDave at May 24, 2026 11:37 PM (aJQbY)

292 My one memory of HoJo's is grabbing a late-nite meal with my dad after he picked me up at the airport for a visit. There was a tremendous crashing sound, and we turned to see a semi-truck plummeting off an overpass onto the street below. The driver apparently swerved to avoid an oncoming car and breached the guard rail.
Posted by: PabloD


Hope he hadn't just left the HoJo's, because that would be a sphincter check.

Also hope he survived an 18-wheeler landing on him.....

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (VHUov)

293
I'm reading some more. This water deluge being more "flame/heat" protection vs sound suppression is complicate. As a near as can gather, the Saturn V system was the former.

They used a huge lateral flame trench and deflector setup to channel the shockwaves sideways so they didn't bounce back to the rocket. That was the "sound suppression" system. The water deluge was indeed just about flame/plume protection.

It was with the Shuttle they started used the water deluge for active sound suppression.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (w6EFb)

294 Little Kings

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (Cqx++)

295 I worked for a couple months at a Burger Chef in Pine Bluff Arkansas, can't quite recall the (rich guy) owner's name.

My mom's bowling team was sponsored by Pabst for a couple years, back in the 60's. They moved up to Pepsi sponsorship later. All I recall of the beer is it had a sort of "twang" to it.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 24, 2026 11:38 PM (vbXSk)

296 286 A PNW restaurant chain long gone as far as I know is Royal Fork. Buffet style dining for families on a budget.

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Another royalty-themed buffet was Sir George's in SoCal. They had this cut-rate knight motif -- think Camelot meets Chuckie Cheese. It was fine dining to me and we only got to go there on special occasions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (6/7Fs)

297 For the washer, its probably the mechanical timer. the contacts get burnt and won't connect well. you can get an old ignition file at the auto parts and clean them up the file is about a quarter inch wide and flexible just do a few stroke between each set of contacts you'll probably see that some are rougher (burnt) than others

Posted by: Lord Percy at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (nftVU)

298 @clashreport
5h
Senior Iranian official Mohsen Rezaee:

Our finger is on the trigger for the fourth battle.

On the other hand, of course, our officials are also negotiating to properly restore the rights of the Iranian nation.

This is the final stage, where the entirety of these 47 years, by the grace of Almighty God, will reach a conclusion that will ensure security is established in Iran for the next 50 years.
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Just nuke 'em.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (D2ex+)

299 Had reheated baby back ribs, salad, and microwaved "baked" potatoes for dinner. Ribs very tasty, as was the salad. Taters were meh. Did not eat much. In 90+ degree heat my appetite is flagging.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (8zz6B)

300 Piels. With Schultz and Dooley mugs

Posted by: Harry case at May 24, 2026 11:42 PM (Kg3Mf)

301 On the other hand, of course, our officials are also negotiating to properly restore the rights of the Iranian nation.

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It says a lot about where you are as a country when you have to negotiate for your "national rights" with someone you call The Great Satan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:42 PM (6/7Fs)

302 53 Tank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ)

Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go.

Posted by: firehorse at May 24, 2026 11:43 PM (YWQSq)

303 Off to bed, y’all. Goodnight!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:43 PM (p4NUW)

304 Several German beers (and Guinness extra stout too) are clearly better, imo, than anything available in the U.S...., but what does "mass produced" mean?
Posted by: mnw


Scale matters. "Mass produced" for a country of 5 million (Ireland) is different than for a country 80 million (Germany), or a country of 350 million (USA).

I'd say the other "mass produced" beers around us suck. Corona and Modelo to the south? Labatt, Molsons, and Fosters (made in Canada for the USA, not in Aussieland) to the north?

Negra Modelo is pretty okay, though.

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (VHUov)

305 Our finger is on the trigger for the fourth battle.

Is this another one of those chakras I hear about?

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (gKWVE)

306 I used to drink Michelob light. Came if the cool shapely brown bottle with a silver label. Regular Michelob had the Gold label. My dad always had Grain Belt Schlitz and Hamms in the fridge. Whenever he got a 12 pak i'd sneak 1 or two out save them until i had 10 or 12 and then me and my buddies would go into the woods and drink them .

Posted by: Big Alfredo at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (Vdukr)

307 The first time I puked on beer was Old Milwaukee in 10th grade. Never touched the shit again.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (D1E+2)

308 >Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 11:08 PM (VHUov)
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Avalanche have just collapsed against Vegas. Inexplicable.

But, football is coming.

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (ZxPkt)

309 The only one on the list I remember eating at as a kid is Howard Johnson's... mom would take us there because they had fried clams - my mom loved fried clams. God I feel old lol.

Posted by: firehorse at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (YWQSq)

310 Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go.

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My first restaurant job was waiting tables at a Sambo's in Santa Ana CA. I worked the 10 pm to 6 am shift, so I've seen things.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (6/7Fs)

311 ank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ)

Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go.
Posted by: firehorse

They go by BoJangles now?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:46 PM (/lPRQ)

312 Avalanche have just collapsed against Vegas. Inexplicable.
But, football is coming.
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 11:45 PM (ZxPkt)

You also got the Rockies!!

Posted by: gKWVE. Astros fan. Yeah. at May 24, 2026 11:47 PM (gKWVE)

313

Fehr's
Sterling
Wiedemann

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (Cqx++)

314 I remember going to a Sambo’s in eastern PA, circa 1978.

Posted by: Mark in SC at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (ZHMYh)

315 Our finger is on the trigger for the fourth battle.

Is this another one of those chakras I hear about?
Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 11:44 PM (gKWVE)

It's a code for getting with their fourth goat of the day.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (qx7Zg)

316 It says a lot about where you are as a country when you have to negotiate for your "national rights" with someone you call The Great Satan.
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They're playing for global sympathy, because they're being picked on by the big bad superpower.

Lots of people are stupid enough to look past the fact that they want nuclear weapons so that they can blackmail everyone else, much like they're using the strait today.

Oh and kill all the Jews, of course. Maybe some of us if they can figure out the rest of the rocketry involved.

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (vSvIl)

317 As Trump has said, trying to negotiate with the mullahs can be frustrating... because different factions there take different positions on key issues.

I would say the key to making the ceasefire deal work is to keep the U.S. military in place near Iran-- for a long time. Something U.S. voters will hate.

Zero messed up Iraq by withdrawing the small U.S. residual military force there too soon. Hello, ISIS!

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (RCjYY)

318
They go by BoJangles now?

Berger Kangz

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 11:49 PM (Cqx++)

319 polynikes and in '72 the country elected Nixon (49 states?) amidst a maelstrom of idiocy, lies, and distortion from the "press" (which back then was practically homogenous, and very limited). Take that electorate back in a nanosecond over today's.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 11:49 PM (U/Byj)

320 Show some class and put in the front yard.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:22 PM (/lPRQ)


It was for a couple of days when I was doing the first attempts at figuring out what was wrong.
I moved it to the back yard so I could run the discharge hose onto the side of the garden and not waste all that water.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:49 PM (rbvCR)

321 FUN FACT: The Sambo's name came from the nickname of the chain's founder Sam Battistone. The little black Sambo character was from a children's book, and he was Indian, not black. Hence the tiger mascot.

Only (dot) Indians should have been offended.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:50 PM (6/7Fs)

322 Of course Sambo was Indian but I guess he identified as African-American.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:50 PM (qrzX6)

323 the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
...
“We’re being told that the tank will fail, but there are different scenarios as to what that means, the most catastrophic scenario being an explosion that results in other tanks to explode. That’s the reason why you see such a big evacuation that’s been done in the surrounding areas.”

The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications.
...
50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:51 PM (D2ex+)

324 Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 11:49 PM (U/Byj

We elected Trump three times.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:52 PM (qrzX6)

325 50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles.

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Garden Grove must be 50% Vietnamese. There are as many signs in Vietnamese as in English.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:52 PM (6/7Fs)

326 Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go.
Posted by: firehorse

They go by BoJangles now?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:46 PM (/lPRQ)

Sad thing about that whole "racist" moral panic about Sambo's is that Little Black Sambo was dot Indian, not African, because it was a tiger he defeated. No tigers in Africa. And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (8zz6B)

327 Trump needs to get some kind of distraction going.
People are getting all antsy pantsy waiting for Iran to screw up again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (D2ex+)

328 As Trump has said, trying to negotiate with the mullahs can be frustrating... because different factions there take different positions on key issues.

I would say the key to making the ceasefire deal work is to keep the U.S. military in place near Iran-- for a long time. Something U.S. voters will hate.

Zero messed up Iraq by withdrawing the small U.S. residual military force there too soon. Hello, ISIS!
Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:48 PM (RCjYY)

He could always tell them that the DoW AIs will decide whether to launch nuclear weapons at Iran. Currently, they nuke about 95% of the time, from articles I've seen.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (qx7Zg)

329 Lucky Lager had the concentration type puzzles inside the cap.
Posted by: Cosda at May 24, 2026 11:26 PM (CLMmB)


They are called Rebus puzzles. My Grammie drank Lucky and she had me solve the puzzles. Lucky came in the shorty bottles.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (rbvCR)

330 HEINEKIN??

F that Sh!

PABST
BLUE
RIBBON!!!

Posted by: Frank Booth at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (CHHv1)

331 We elected Trump three times.
Posted by: polynikes

I honestly am astounded that they didn't disqualify him from the 2024 election due to that fact.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (vhPr1)

332

Braenyard,

That is a bad situation out there.

I feel for the people who had to evacuate. Where did most of them have to go?

I just can't imagine the impact all of that is having on many lives.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (3ek7K)

333
They go by BoJangles now?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Thought they named it, Step 'n Fetch It.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:54 PM (D2ex+)

334 Back to just me. Good night all you good folks.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 11:55 PM (CHHv1)

335 And both houses of Congress continued to be controlled by the Dems for another 12 years after having it for almost 30 years already.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:55 PM (qrzX6)

336 And polynikes I'll still take the other electorate - not just for presidential, but for everything down the line including culture and standards. Happy to have one that did what it did 3 times, but reverse Golden Days has become even more ridiculous than straight Golden Days syndrome.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 11:55 PM (U/Byj)

337

Beckoning,

Sleep well.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (3ek7K)

338 >>My first restaurant job was waiting tables at a Sambo's in Santa Ana CA. I worked the 10 pm to 6 am shift, so I've seen things.

Before I moved to PR I had to make some extra money so I got a 2nd job cleaning a McDonald's on an overnight shift. My work partner was an ex-con with issues. Whole different story.

I cleaned the grease traps between the flat top cooking areas, the fry machine and even the ice cream/shake machine. It was way over a decade before I could ever eat there again. I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (viF8m)

339 >> I’ve read the vibrations were really something at a Saturn V launch.

When the first tested the five F-1 cluster at Stennis back in '67, they shattered a bunch of windows miles away.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (w6EFb)

340 The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications.
...
50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:51 PM (D2ex+)

Methyl methacrylate monomer is the base material for acrylic plastics like Lexan, Lucite, and Plexiglass. So, airplane windows.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (8zz6B)

341 Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 11:56 PM (viF8m)

You had a working milkshake machine?

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 11:57 PM (qrzX6)

342 . It was fine dining to me and we only got to go there on special occasions.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 11:39 PM (6/7Fs)

Our local Royal Forks were a staple for my wife's family whenever they went out. My folks always went for a family run Chinese place "around the corner" from us when I was growing up. Ma was heartbroken when they sold.

Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 11:57 PM (sW5jf)

343 Memories of desperately trying to finish one of those ridiculously huge Farrels rootbeer floats in the boat shaped glass bowl after little league games. Mom let us have zero sweets at home so it meant finish that at all costs. Oh the sweet agony of that ride home in the station wagon.

Posted by: Mad Manx at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (hyQrc)

344 Not sure exactly where the evacuation areas are but yes looks at a glance like it includes much of Little Saigon. Close to Disneyland too. Garden Grove (like most of the flat lands in the region) was largely agricultural until the 50s boom onward. And in terms of demographics, had a lot of Japanese-Americans up til the 70s (possibly spilling over from nearby Torrance).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (U/Byj)

345 323 the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
...
“We’re being told that the tank will fail, but there are different scenarios as to what that means, the most catastrophic scenario being an explosion ...

Just a few miles from Knotts Berry Farm and Disneyland/already within the evacuation zone but not closed down... Let's see them woke their way out of this one.

Will be as if the Pacific Palisades/Fire went Orange.
He who puts his faith in Politicos is a creature who's existence is soon to be without value.

But don't worry, KaliforniaPsycho/Gavin has come to the rescue.
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-PutASmileOnThatFace
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-signedSCHWARTZWALD

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (8p8zX)

346 The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications.
...
50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles.
Posted by: Braenyard
===

Not so bad when you look up the Wiki...

... Another application is as cement used in total hip replacements as well as total knee replacements. Used as the "grout" by orthopedic surgeons to make the bone inserts fix into bone...

... the LD50 is 7–10 g/kg (oral, rat). It is an irritant to the eyes and can cause redness and pain.[18][19] Irritation of the skin, eye, and nasal cavity has been observed in rodents and rabbits exposed to relatively high concentrations of methyl methacrylate. Methyl methacrylate is a mild skin irritant in humans and has the potential to induce skin sensitization in susceptible individuals


open a valve and let the secondary containment catch it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:59 PM (/lPRQ)

347 I don't know how people think of the late 60's to mid 70's were any type of golden days.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:00 AM (qrzX6)

348 >>You had a working milkshake machine?

Occasionally. It was never a sure thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:00 AM (viF8m)

349

Do you think is worrying how he can pay for the citizens there to evacuate?

Oh no, he has to save up money to pay for Ipads for prisoners and "free" diapers for the poor.

What a POS.

Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (3ek7K)

350 Crap! Been dry as a bone around here, now pouring rain, and forecast to continue through tomorrow. I have attended the Memorial Day service at the State Veteran's Cemtery for years. This is an outdoor service, at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. I feel my resolve to attend slipping away.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (XeU6L)

351 @MOSSADil
·
2h
In Tehran, the IRGC is already staging “victory” marches under the emerging agreement, parading ballistic missiles from underground bases while senior regime officials reemerge from bunkers. Tehran is signaling that the regime survived, rearmed, and is ready for the next phase.

Posted by: Don Black at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (ZxPkt)

352 I saw an in-the-wild tranny this evening at the mart of Wal. Won't give it's first name, but if its last name was "Dolittle", you could guess the first. Fat, no chesticular protuberances at all, ugly, stringy blonde hair. Looked like a younger, seedier version of that crazy Admiral. Masculine voice, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:02 AM (8zz6B)

353 Oh no, he has to save up money to pay for Ipads for prisoners and "free" diapers for the poor.

What a POS.

---------

You won't be sneering when you see our meth addicts sporting perfect smiles courtesy of dental implants supplied by the state.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:03 AM (6/7Fs)

354 Sad thing about that whole "racist" moral panic about Sambo's is that Little Black Sambo was dot Indian, not African, because it was a tiger he defeated. No tigers in Africa. And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 11:53 PM (8zz6B)


It is related to the Tiger Grandma story from SE Asia where the Grandma got robbed of everything on the way home by the tigers, including her hands and head, which the tigers tried to use to get the grandchildren to open the door for them so they could eat the children too. It is a version of Red Riding Hood, but without the Woodsman.
I think it also reflects the original Astarte story about how Astarte went to the underworld to save a servant and had to trade everything she had a bit at a time to bribe her way past the demons guarding the various portals in Hell.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2026 12:04 AM (rbvCR)

355 Evenin’, All. A good Memorial Day to everyone.

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:04 AM (77rzZ)

356 the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
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Just dump the contents in the nearest waterway.

Posted by: Kharg Island Engineers local #54 at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (vSvIl)

357 We elected Trump three times.
Posted by: polynikes

I honestly am astounded that they didn't disqualify him from the 2024 election due to that fact.
Posted by: Tonypete


You can bet the UniParty "war-gamed" it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (/lPRQ)

358 Sad thing about that whole "racist" moral panic about Sambo's is that Little Black Sambo was dot Indian, not African, because it was a tiger he defeated. No tigers in Africa. And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


"Sambo" is also the name of a Soviet martial art.

There's a Japanese band named for it.

"Sambomaster."

Wonder what kind of fallout they'd get for touring the USA today?

https://youtu.be/lNFSL6To3zI

Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (VHUov)

359 I thought little black sambo had the tiger run in circles enough to turn him into butter?

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (qrzX6)

360 >>>I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe.

Posted by: JackStraw

>C'mon. It was only bad the first time, if you did your job right.

I've seen these things. A good produce manager in a grocery store is hard to find.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (D1E+2)

361 Lone Star long-necks to Old Style to Point… trying to make that into a song along the lines of Route 66.

Seem to be stuck in '70s memories tonight. After college, I would keep a variety of beers in the fridge. Might have Mickey's or Little Kings, Heinlein, Michelob, Corona, on and on. Usually had one type for a little while, then switched.

I remember a cousin coming by and razzing me because the last time he'd visited I was drinking Heiney's. WTF, dude? That was briefly and many moons back. People are funny.

Dang. Now I want a Guinness.

https://youtu.be/CsvupI8pNN4?t=52

Posted by: mindful webworker - beer beer beer at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (0poB+)

362 And the whole point of the story is that he was a very clever kid.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Collected a bucket of butter to boot, if I recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (XeU6L)

363 Remembering our heroes with tranny fluid?

Posted by: Beelzebubba at May 25, 2026 12:06 AM (bufu1)

364 Just dump the contents in the nearest waterway.
Posted by: Kharg Island Engineers local #54 at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (vSvIl)

Maybe the sewage from Mexico now on the California coast can cancel it out.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:07 AM (qrzX6)

365 I thought little black sambo had the tiger run in circles enough to turn him into butter?
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:05 AM (qrzX6)

That's right. He defeated the tiger by outwitting it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:08 AM (8zz6B)

366 193 She's cute and makes cool post-punk songs.

https://tinyurl.com/3vk5ccvt

Otherwise, hello folks.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm



Huh, I like it. It's AI slop, but very listenable AI slop. Will have to explore further that YT page.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 25, 2026 12:08 AM (sAmhv)

367 If Iran surrenders the enriched uranium, then whatever else that was necessary to get it is acceptable. If we don’t get it - well that’s what I would have expected from Kamala.

I’m not predicting anything, I’m going to wait and see.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:09 AM (U0opd)

368
Cicero,

The good thing about the dentures for the addicts is they will look good when they are robbing or killing you.

Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (3ek7K)

369 361

Heineken beer.

Heinlien was the SF writer.

Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (RCjYY)

370 Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:09 AM (U0opd

Their enriched uranium is probably already in the same place as Iraq's missing VX gas.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (qrzX6)

371 Ahhh, Sambo's restaurants... used to get with some friends and go there for late-night entertainment on Friday or Saturday nights. *Interesting stuff* would happen there after the bars closed, LOL!

One time, a lady came in with a couple others and they started singing. Well, the one lady was so enthusiastic, she got up onto a chair to sing-- and then got up onto a table to sing some more AND dance! Hahaha, dee-runk she was!

Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:10 AM (rdVOm)

372 Cicero,

The good thing about the dentures for the addicts is they will look good when they are robbing or killing you.

---------

Karen Bass thinks it will let them all get high-paying jobs as venture capitalists.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:11 AM (6/7Fs)

373 That Indian kid went on to invent that ice-rink machine, the Samboni.

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:11 AM (77rzZ)

374 367

Agreed.

Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:12 AM (RCjYY)

375 Sambo was Frodo's loyal companion.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:12 AM (qrzX6)

376 Hudepohl 14K

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:12 AM (Cqx++)

377 Bob Dylan wrote a famous song called "Hey Mr. Sambo-reen Man"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:13 AM (6/7Fs)

378
Lol Cicero

Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:13 AM (3ek7K)

379 Find out where the enriched uranium is stored. Hit the site with a bunker-buster nuke. If they are storing it under a girls' school, too bad, so sad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (8zz6B)

380 >>>I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe.

Posted by: JackStraw


Worked as a baker at local grocery store in HS.
Took a summer job at a different store I during a summer break in college.

First day on the job I taste tested some donuts... bitter.
Drained the fryer to change the shortening. Got seven five gallon buckets of soot out of it... they probably never cleaned it in over a year.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (/lPRQ)

381 I'm hungry for Little Debbie yellow cake.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (Cqx++)

382 I'm hungry for Little Debbie yellow cake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:14 AM (Cq

LD Swiss Roll for me please.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:15 AM (qrzX6)

383
AOP,

Yep

Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (3ek7K)

384 Unfortunately, Sambo’s son got involved with that Philistine chick, who cut his hair off.

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (77rzZ)

385 Wait.. I thought Little Black Sambo got threatened by a succession of tigers, trading a piece of his brand-new clothing to each in order that they would spare his life? And then the tigers saw each other with the dandy new duds, got jealous, and chased each other 'round & 'round a tree until they all melted down into butter?

And then LBS took back his clothing, scooped up the butter and brought it back to his Mammy & she cooked for him and he ate eleventy-seven pancakes?

Or, maybe I got told a different story...

Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (rdVOm)

386 Indianapolis 500 - Felix Rosenqvist won in one of the more entertaining 500's I've ever watched and I've watched a lot of them. One hell of a finish!

Coca Cola 600 - Daniel Suárez won. Another very good race that the weather screwed up.

No idea about the Canadian Grand Prix. F1 is exclusive to Apple+ TV and I already have too many streaming services. Probably pair it back next year.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 25, 2026 12:17 AM (sAmhv)

387 >>>I've seen horror you people wouldn't believe.

Posted by: JackStraw

>C'mon. It was only bad the first time, if you did your job right.

I've seen these things. A good produce manager in a grocery store is hard to find.


Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 25, 2026 12:18 AM (CHHv1)

388 hearing chatter on X that onlyfans got pwnd and hax00rd

@StarPlatinum_
OnlyFans is Hacked 🚨
Apparently OnlyFans has been hacked and they're selling the complete database of 340 million users
including data of content creators and consumers.
The leaked data includes
- Usernames and profile names
- Email addresses
- Phone numbers
- Account creation dates
- Follower/subscriber metrics
- Creator/fan rankings
- Linked social media profiles
- Partial payment card metadata (last 4 digits of the card)
The result of this is going to be a massive wave of extortion attempts against users

Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 12:19 AM (gKWVE)

389 I worked in a Winn Dixie. Never trusted the butchers.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:19 AM (qrzX6)

390 That Indian kid went on to invent that ice-rink machine, the Samboni.
Posted by: Bulg


Two minutes for unsportsmanlike punduct.

Posted by: the ref at May 25, 2026 12:20 AM (VHUov)

391 And then LBS took back his clothing, scooped up the butter and brought it back to his Mammy & she cooked for him and he ate eleventy-seven pancakes?

Or, maybe I got told a different story...
Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:16 AM (rdVOm)

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I thinks that's a pretty good rendition of the story. I hear Christopher Nolan is planning a filmed version with a cast made entirely of Irish.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 25, 2026 12:20 AM (6/7Fs)

392 ... on the other hand, Grok is saying it's bullshit

Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 12:21 AM (gKWVE)

393 Posted by: gKWVE at May 25, 2026 12:19 AM (gKWVE)

I've always advocated for international death penalty for hackers.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:21 AM (qrzX6)

394 I read in an Obama-Biden Newsletter not too long ago, about the El Salvadorian who cured cancer and the Venezuelan physicist who invented cold fusion. True story, guys.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:21 AM (D1E+2)

395 295 My mom's howling team was sponsored by (...)
- - - - - -
My brain misread the original post and came up with that. It *does* sound like fun... ;-)

Posted by: As Not Seen On TV at May 25, 2026 12:22 AM (flLTR)

396 Find out where the enriched uranium is stored. Hit the site with a bunker-buster nuke. If they are storing it under a girls' school, too bad, so sad.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


They may be dominated by the Arab mind and claiming all kinds of Shiite they do not have. IRBMs, ICBMs, hyper missiles, Nukes (ready to assemble), enough famous for ten nukes, etc.
They are just holding them "in reserve"... after blindly lashing out at everyone around them for weeks...
Yup, just holding the good stuff in reserve.

Hard to give up what you do not have.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (/lPRQ)

397 >>First day on the job I taste tested some donuts... bitter.
Drained the fryer to change the shortening. Got seven five gallon buckets of soot out of it... they probably never cleaned it in over a year.

Also had a part-time job working as a dishwasher in a high end country club in high school. I'm a big a fan of home cooking.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (viF8m)

398 Dad liked Hamm's beer. Or Coors. Heh, no "lite" beer for him!

Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (rdVOm)

399 We would appreciate it very much if you could bring more expensive craft beers with your group the next time you go floating, just in case your craft overturns and leaves the beer for us.

Also, bringing weenie tots and other meats is appreciated!

Posted by: River Fishes at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (yO07m)

400 I always thought Drew Carey was one of the reasonable celebrities. I thought wrong. What an asshoe.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:24 AM (qrzX6)

401 r hennigantx, back at #55: If the person who ordered it ate the entire sundae, employees would come out banging on a drum, announce the accomplishment to the entire restaurant, and present the customer with either a ribbon or a pinback button that said, "I made a pig of myself at Farrell's!"

I remember that scene in Bill & Ted's.
https://youtu.be/6NzdphRY2IM

Posted by: mindful webworker - Napoleonitan at May 25, 2026 12:24 AM (0poB+)

402 Orwell wrote in 'Down and Out In London and Paris' about working in restaurants:

"Looking round that filthy room, with raw meat lying among the refuse on the floor, and cold, clotted saucepans sprawling everywhere, and the sink blocked and coated with grease, I used to wonder whether there could be a restaurant in the world as bad as ours. But the other three all said they had been in dirtier places"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (XeU6L)

403 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:23 AM (/lPRQ)

They got help.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (qrzX6)

404 So, this happened: found a Motorola cellphone on the ground in my yard today, here in AJ. Glass over screen is smashed, but it boots up Android, and indicates its on the T-Mobile network. Wants a PIN to get into it. Touch screen still works.

Would ADBridge let me get into the phone and reset the password? Mostly wondering if it would help me find the phone's rightful owner. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (8zz6B)

405 I've always advocated for international death penalty for hackers.
Posted by: polynikes

How do you distinguish between them and various countries NSA types?

Oh, they are exactly the same.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:26 AM (/lPRQ)

406 361
Heineken beer.
Heinlien was the SF writer.
Posted by: mnw


Uhhhh, right.

Heh.

Can I blame autocucumber?

Posted by: mindful webworker - Napoleonitan at May 25, 2026 12:27 AM (0poB+)

407 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:25 AM (XeU6L)

The Jungle by the commie Upton Sinclair tells of a similar story in the meat packing industry.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (qrzX6)

408 400 What did Drew Carey say/do?

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ)

409 We would appreciate it very much if you could bring more expensive craft beers with your group the next time you go floating, just in case your craft overturns and leaves the beer for us.

Also, bringing weenie tots and other meats is appreciated!
Posted by: River Fishes


Beer floats.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:29 AM (/lPRQ)

410
He didn't do anything to improve his looks.

He is still a fat of piece of shit.

Posted by: four seasons at May 25, 2026 12:30 AM (3ek7K)

411 What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ)

Went on a profane rant about Spencer Pratt and his supporters.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:30 AM (qrzX6)

412 What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ)

Didn't stay concealed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (8zz6B)

413 Navy Secretary Hung: The U.S. has paused a $14 billion arms sale to Taiwan.
--

What's going on?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (D2ex+)

414 Cheap beer? I recall buying Chief Oskosh for $2.05 for an 8-pack. I see that they closed in 1971.

Image of the can that I recall:
https://shorturl.at/DXeVM

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (XeU6L)

415 Shame about Carey. I liked him. Oh well.

Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (77rzZ)

416 Navy Secretary Hung: The U.S. has paused a $14 billion arms sale to Taiwan.
--

What's going on?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (D2ex+)

Whatever it is I don't like it.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:32 AM (qrzX6)

417 The Jungle by the commie Upton Sinclair tells of a similar story in the meat packing industry.
Posted by: polynikes
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Yup. Read it waaaay back. Caused a scandal at the time of publishing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (XeU6L)

418 Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (Cqx++)

419 Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (Cq

Out of this world

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:35 AM (qrzX6)

420 I loved Farrells - ours was at a prime spot in Scottsdale, spent many happy times there. Best ice cream place ever!
Last time I was there, saw that there’s a many storied office tower on the location.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:35 AM (U0opd)

421 Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Indistinguishable from a Butterfinger.

Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (VHUov)

422 @MOSSADil
In Tehran, the IRGC is already staging “victory” marches under the emerging agreement, parading ballistic missiles from underground bases while senior regime officials reemerge from bunkers. Tehran is signaling that the regime survived, rearmed, and is ready for the next phase.
Posted by: Don Black


Sure, sure. That's what the Israelis want Trump to believe, so he'll keep attacking them.

With any luck, it would work.

If true, it does seem to me like it would be whatchacall a target-rich environment.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Napoleonitan at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (0poB+)

423 Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:34 AM (Cqx++)

Reminded me that a lot of people still think the Baby Ruth bar was named after Babe Ruth.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (qrzX6)

424 In college in the mumbly mumbly's we would splurge by walking down to the Red Barn for burgers and then over to Arthur Treachers for Fish and Chips. Back at the dorm we'd wash it all down with some 99c/six pack Knickerbocker and maybe some Freihofer's Chocolate Chip Cookies for dessert.

Here in So. Cal we mourn the demise of Charlie Brown's Steakhouse, Francisco's coffee shop and Pioneer Chicken among others....

In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (QGaXH)

425 A paraglider gets hit by a Cessna 172 near the Austrian town of Zell am See.

According to police, the 44-year-old Austrian had started from Schmittenhöhe in the direction of Piesendorf. Above the Pinzgauer Hütte, she collided at 1:15 p.m. with the Cessna piloted by a 28-year-old.

The pilot of the Cessna, which flew from the Glemm Valley in the direction of Zell am See, was able to land the aircraft safely at Zell am See Airport.

video: https://tinyurl.com/yv4fvyee

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (D2ex+)

426 >>> Newsom Declares State of Emergency in Orange County as Experts Warn Chemical Tank Could Explode – Firefighters Find Crack in Tank


I thought it was methyl methacrylate.

Save the crack, sell it, and trick out your fire trucks.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (/lPRQ)

427 A cruise missile sale to Japan was delayed so that the US could restock its supplies. Haven't seen any reason for the Taiwan pause.

A shame about Carey. Someone I know (much younger) headed out to Hollyweird to try do comedy back in the day, like most didn't make it, but for a while did end up as a personal assistant to Carey's side-kick comedian guy (Ryan something? tall skinny guy) and maybe a bit for Carey as well. Said they were super nice to work with and made a point of not forgetting how they had slept in their cars before "making it".

Also, Carey I believe made a point of visiting vets hospitals, Walter Reed and Bethesda when he was in DC, and instructed his people "no publicity". If true, that seemed good. He was in the Marines.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:37 AM (U/Byj)

428 So drew carey is just another useless leftist slob. Why is everyone in that industry so worthless?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:37 AM (U0opd)

429 A paraglider gets hit by a Cessna 172 near the Austrian town of Zell am See.
===

Technically I think the paraglider would have had the right of way.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (/lPRQ)

430 In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (QGaXH)

They had a similar chain called The Ponderosa .

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (qrzX6)

431 What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg

Went on a profane rant about Spencer Pratt and his supporters.
Posted by: polynikes
......

He just has the hots for Karen Bass.

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (oq9dX)

432 I miss Skipper's Fish 'n' Chips restaurants.

Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (rdVOm)

433 Bear Whiz Beer

"It's in the water, that's why it's yellow...."

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (QGaXH)

434 ARiK don't think those chains made it south of the Orange Curtain. Oscar's was a local star that faded away. Of course Jack in the Box started here but didn't go national til the 80s, I think?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (U/Byj)

435 Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:37 AM (U/Byj)

He used to identify himself as a Libertarian. I think I see the problem.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:41 AM (qrzX6)

436 Watching reruns of Rockford Files. Reminds me of the Los Angeles I came to as a fresh college grad....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:41 AM (QGaXH)

437 Maybe Drew Carey needs a new set of teeth?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2026 12:42 AM (Cqx++)

438 I have an assorted collection of church keys that are branded by the old local breweries dating back to WW11. Am I getting old?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:42 AM (D1E+2)

439 Back in the day, it was illegal to sell Coors in Missouri. The proffered reason was that it was not pasteurized and therefore unsafe. The real reason is because Anheuser-Busch is located in St. Louis and could get the legislature to squash its competition. My grandfather and his buddies loved Coors so much that they would drive to Colorado, load a pickup bed full of cases of the stuff and drive it back. A real-life Smokey and the Bandit scenario, but without the cool Trans-Am.

Posted by: PabloD at May 25, 2026 12:43 AM (PCZFY)

440 Bear Whiz Beer

"It's in the water, that's why it's yellow...."
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue
---------

I forget the comedian;

'They stopped making Billy beer...
the horse died'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:43 AM (XeU6L)

441 HMS Lyme Bay seen loading ammunition, supplies, and mine-hunting sea drones in Gibraltar while en route to the Strait of Hormuz region

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (D2ex+)

442 438

That's an interesting hobby.

Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (RCjYY)

443 Ever had an Arthur C. Clarke bar?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Indistinguishable from a Butterfinger.
Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (VHUov)

Once you have a Buttafuocofinger, you never go back. You become obsessed, even.

Posted by: Amy Fisher at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (wVcYX)

444 Zell am See Austria was the actual location where the "Band of Brothers" (501 PIR/E Company) ended their war. The TV series filmed at a similar location in Switzerland.

The Nixon character was given many great lines, one of his best, and under-appreciated, was as he was climbing the stairs at the Grand Hotel, the beautiful building set on the spectacular lake, as they arrived. "We should be comfortable here".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:44 AM (U/Byj)

445 154 The Bicentennial Coke commercial got me the thinking about the Tall Ship parade in NY Harbor for that Birthday. First hit that come up for "Operation Sail" on YT and there in plain sight and still standing 25 years ago are the Twin Towers. Too much has changed.

https://youtu.be/nppINIM3fEI?
Posted by: Rex B at May 24, 2026 10:46 PM (rgnea)

I still find it hard to watch the opening of 'Barney Miller'...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:45 AM (QGaXH)

446 Whose Line Is It Anyway was always pretty good. After Drew Carey hosted it he was replaced by Archer's Lana.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:45 AM (qrzX6)

447 Smells like rain outside, but no sign of water on the ground, and none falling. Guess the petrichor scent is being wafted here by the southeast win.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:45 AM (8zz6B)

448 >>Navy Secretary Hung: The U.S. has paused a $14 billion arms sale to Taiwan.
--

>>What's going on?

China is Iran's biggest customer by far. Venezuela was too. Trump recently had a big meeting in China. And now it appears Iran is ready to make a deal.

Might be a coincidence but Trump is looking to change the world order not just make deals.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 12:46 AM (viF8m)

449 411 What did Drew Carey say/do?
Posted by: Bulg at May 25, 2026 12:28 AM (77rzZ)

Went on a profane rant about Spencer Pratt and his supporters.
Posted by: polynikes



His blue collar roots are long in the past now. He's been in LA LA land for a long time. He's more that than Cleveland now.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 25, 2026 12:46 AM (sAmhv)

450 The Nixon character was given many great lines, one of his best, and under-appreciated, was as he was climbing the stairs at the Grand Hotel, the beautiful building set on the spectacular lake, as they arrived. "We should be comfortable here".

Posted by: rhomboid
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2nd Lt. George Rice: Looks like you guys are going to be surrounded. Richard Winters: We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:47 AM (XeU6L)

451 LAAANAAAA!!!

Danger zone...

Posted by: PabloD at May 25, 2026 12:47 AM (PCZFY)

452 The pause in the sell of military equipment to Taiwan came right after his meeting with Xi.

Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:48 AM (qrzX6)

453 Holy Smokes! Just noticed Google home page has a vaguely patriotic 'doodle' for Memorial day.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:49 AM (QGaXH)

454 We're gonna hafta killlem sooner or later.
_T. Jefferson

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 12:49 AM (D2ex+)

455 HoJos had the franchise for the plazas on the PA Turnpike. As a matter of fact, my sister worked at one.
Automat. Pretty much NYC, but I did buy coffee and donuts out of them in the early 60s
White Tower was a knockoff of White Castle. There was one in.my home town, about about a hundred feet and 2 bars from the W.E. factory gate. Bachelors who made it past those would stop for dinner. Good sliders. IIRC, they were 6 for a buck. I hit it mainly for coffee after the bars closed.
Farrells. I lived in the PDX area and had kids. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 12:51 AM (mSL0+)

456 This is me signing off for the night. What's your sign?

Used to see her at Chicago's Green Mill
https://youtu.be/bPmajKYTkfA

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - leonine or leoten, whatever it takes at May 25, 2026 12:53 AM (0poB+)

457 Looked at dispassionately, this talk about a deal is downright comical. A lot of people who said 24 hours ago that there would be a deal now say there won’t be.

None of them know shit about will or will not actually happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:54 AM (U0opd)

458 In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia

They had a similar chain called The Ponderosa .
Posted by: polynikes


Both were nationwide. They were grade school mikeski's favorites when we'd go to the Big City for some reason. All-you-can-eat fried shrimp!

* searches *

They still exist, but they're down to 21 restaurants.

Minnesota still has one: a Bonanza in Saint Cloud.

Florida is also down to one: a Ponderosa in Kissimmee.

Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (VHUov)

459 If I posted a warning sign, it would be either

Beware of Wife and Cat
The dog's ok.

-- or --

Warning.
Extreme
Sarcasm
Ahead

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (qx7Zg)

460 I like Coors beer. Not so much the Light, I'll drink it, but won't buy it. It's too light.

My brother wouldn't touch the stuff because he is convinced the brand contains lead and mercury in the water. I'm like, "Dude, you're retired and worried about that?" I'd be more worried about a frozen pizza.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (D1E+2)

461 Looked at dispassionately, this talk about a deal is downright comical. A lot of people who said 24 hours ago that there would be a deal now say there won’t be.

None of them know shit about will or will not actually happen.
Posted by: Tom Servo


In fairness, they're trying to predict the behavior of muslims.

Posted by: mikeski flips a whole roll of coins at May 25, 2026 12:56 AM (VHUov)

462 17 years old, but a fairly dense beard, especially if I didn't shave for a day. Back door into the Rabbits to the bar. A buck seventy five (quarter tip) on the bar ; "Three quarts of Iron to go." Out the back door into the car waiting in the alley, and off to a party.

Then there's "Schmidt's of Philadelphia". Served in the PX at Ft Monmouth. Drank a lot of that.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 12:57 AM (mSL0+)

463 457 Looked at dispassionately, this talk about a deal is downright comical. A lot of people who said 24 hours ago that there would be a deal now say there won’t be.

None of them know shit about will or will not actually happen.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2026 12:54 AM (U0opd)

I think the real problem is that no one is really in charge in Iran. We decapitated their leadership... and now there is a major power struggle going on with the various factions each ignoring each other.

So... we make a deal with one, but there is no guarantee that the deal holds because other splinter groups will say... nah...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 12:57 AM (mP0Kj)

464 And now it appears Iran is ready to make a deal.
-
Do they?

All I've heard from them is demands for our unconditional surrender. Repeated right after Trump asserts that a deal is almost there.

For weeks.

Posted by: Methos at May 25, 2026 12:58 AM (vSvIl)

465 In fairness, they're trying to predict the behavior of muslims.
Posted by: mikeski flips a whole roll of coins at May 25, 2026 12:56 AM (VHUov)

They will behave badly. It's a feature, you know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (8zz6B)

466 460 I like Coors beer. Not so much the Light, I'll drink it, but won't buy it. It's too light.

My brother wouldn't touch the stuff because he is convinced the brand contains lead and mercury in the water. I'm like, "Dude, you're retired and worried about that?" I'd be more worried about a frozen pizza.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 12:55 AM (D1E+2)

I keep two beers around the house for normal everyday type drinkin...

Coors Light for daytime next to the pool... 805s for evenin.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (mP0Kj)

467 The aircraft carriers are for the splinter groups.

Posted by: mnw at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (RCjYY)

468 Apparently this week it will be constant rane, hele, thundre, litnin and frizzing colde.

Really bad spell of weather.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2026 01:00 AM (qx7Zg)

469 Rain keeps coming rain keeps coming down down down...
One fine day we will have sunshine, but rain in the forecast for the rest of the week. Two weeks ago we were in a drought. Now it's watch for flooding. If we get three straight days without rain we will be in a drought again. The weather people just say that so we can't burn brush piles Assholes.

Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:02 AM (8XBuM)

470 @Osint613 - 13h
Netanyahu: "My policy, like President Trump's policy, remains unchanged: Iran will not have nuclear weapons."

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:04 AM (D2ex+)

471
It was getting pretty dry here, all over SC, (and GA, NC, FL). I was about 7" behind normal for the year. I've got 3.73" out of this last system, which is making a dent in that, but still behind over 3".

So far, ground has soaked it up pretty good -- it hasn't come down fast enough for too much runoff yet.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 25, 2026 01:07 AM (w6EFb)

472 468 Apparently this week it will be constant rane, hele, thundre, litnin and frizzing colde.

Really bad spell of weather.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2026 01:00 AM (qx7Zg)

Note, Wyoming and Colorado just experienced some first class Globull Warmering!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 01:08 AM (mP0Kj)

473 Iranian negotiators are demanding the immediate release of $12 billion in frozen assets held in Qatar as a precondition for advancing talks with the USA.

The Qataris are clearly in talks with the IRGC, which is a designated terrorist organization, and are trying to bribe them into reaching an agreement.

Source: Iran International
----

This is where the money talk is coming from?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:08 AM (D2ex+)

474 Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 25, 2026 01:07 AM (w6EFb)

Calif was looking at a really low snow pack this year... until the last couple of months.

Really late storms which really impacted the runoff.

Yosemite's Falls are spectacular right now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 01:10 AM (mP0Kj)

475 Well, 2200 here, time for bed if I am going to get up at 0600. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2026 01:10 AM (8zz6B)

476 >>>Coors Light for daytime next to the pool... 805s for evenin.

Posted by: Romeo13

>Truth be told, I'll drink any beer if offered. I used to take a case of Tecate to my barber whenever I needed a haircut. Then it got all fashionable, and the price doubled.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 01:11 AM (D1E+2)

477 Maybe half of CA is saved from fire.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:11 AM (D2ex+)

478 302 53 Tank demon beat me to it. Where’s Sambos on the list of lost chains. Basically they renamed them since Sambos was racist and many than closed down.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 10:16 PM (2NHgQ)

Had to Google, I went to school in Santa Barbara - it was still Sambos back then, it was the first one opened, and I guess that last one renamed (they held out til 2020 before renaming under pressure) - it was a popular place to go.
Posted by: firehorse at May 24, 2026 11:43 PM (YWQSq)

Carrow's was another popular So. Cal eatery that apparently has bit the dust. Our local one is now a Pho place.

Big Yellow House is gone too with Coco's not far behind.

Marie's hangs in there however.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:11 AM (QGaXH)

479 Iranian negotiators are demanding the immediate release of $12 billion in frozen assets held in Qatar as a precondition for advancing talks with the USA.
......

The check's in the mail.
Launch code green. Fire at will.

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2026 01:14 AM (oq9dX)

480 20-year-old Ava Rahmani-Rad was murdered by the Islamic regime in Iran while protesting for a free Iran on the streets of Tehran on January 9th 2026.

She was shot in the neck.

Security forces kept firing on anyone trying to run up to her to stop the bleeding.
---

If we don't kill them now they will come for us again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:14 AM (D2ex+)

481 >>Do they?

If not the blockade isn't going anywhere and we have enough fire power on the doorstep to blow Iran into oblivion.

I'm ok with Iran being choked to death and none of our side being killed until they relent.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 01:14 AM (viF8m)

482 323 the (EPA) said Sunday that a chemical storage tank in Southern California is likely to fail and has forced officials to declare emergency evacuation orders for tens of thousands residents
...
“We’re being told that the tank will fail, but there are different scenarios as to what that means, the most catastrophic scenario being an explosion that results in other tanks to explode. That’s the reason why you see such a big evacuation that’s been done in the surrounding areas.”

The malfunctioning tank holds approximately 5,000 to 7,000 gallons of methyl methacrylate, a flammable and volatile chemical used in plastics manufacturing for aerospace applications.
...
50,000 evacuated from Garden Grove, ...located 30 miles south of Los Angeles.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 11:51 PM (D2ex+)

7 or 8 miles due north of me.

We'll be ok as long as the winds don't reverse.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:15 AM (QGaXH)

483 So, this happened: found a Motorola cellphone on the ground in my yard today, here in AJ. Glass over screen is smashed, but it boots up Android, and indicates its on the T-Mobile network. Wants a PIN to get into it. Touch screen still works.

Would ADBridge let me get into the phone and reset the password? Mostly wondering if it would help me find the phone's rightful owner. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----
911 should work. They will be able to ID the number and alert T-Mobile. If the owner hasn't reported it lost/stolen, they could get it back that way. If it's been reported, it's done for. The IEMI # is marked in a national database forever, no carrier will connect to it. 911 always works, on any cellphone.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 01:17 AM (mSL0+)

484 If we don't kill them now they will come for us again.

Posted by: Braenyard
--------

The only way to be safe is to eliminate the threat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 01:17 AM (XeU6L)

485
>Truth be told, I'll drink any beer if offered. I used to take a case of Tecate to my barber whenever I needed a haircut. Then it got all fashionable, and the price doubled.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
----------

Uh...have you ever tried Narragansett? Only beerI ever abandoned on a picnic table.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 01:20 AM (XeU6L)

486 I wouldn't give Iran two cents. How about the countries they have attacked? Give the money to them to rebuild.

Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:20 AM (8XBuM)

487
We've been under a cold air damming setup the past couple of days. RH around 100% in the mornings, making for some heavy fog. The GSP boys have used the highly technical and arcane meteorological term "pea soup" to describe it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 25, 2026 01:21 AM (w6EFb)

488 Still a Marie Callender's close to me. Last close Coco's closed a few years ago. Carrows was I think mostly north of SD County.

Don't remember the Sambo's in Santa Barbara, can't picture it. And the Big Yellow House just south in Summerland wasn't a chain, was it?

Biggest loss in Santa Barbara was, for me, Guadalajara, on lower State Street. Only chorizo enchiladas I've ever encountered, fantastic.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 01:23 AM (U/Byj)

489 So, this happened: found a Motorola cellphone on the ground in my yard today, here in AJ. Glass over screen is smashed, but it boots up Android, and indicates its on the T-Mobile network. Wants a PIN to get into it. Touch screen still works.

Would ADBridge let me get into the phone and reset the password? Mostly wondering if it would help me find the phone's rightful owner. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----
911 should work. They will be able to ID the number and alert T-Mobile. If the owner hasn't reported it lost/stolen, they could get it back that way. If it's been reported, it's done for. The IEMI # is marked in a national database forever, no carrier will connect to it. 911 always works, on any cellphone.
Posted by: buddhaha


I would think the safest thing to do there would be to take it to the cops, and let them dial 911 on it. No sense dispatching a bunch of flashing lights to your neighborhood for a missing phone.

If you call and then find out that it's not just a cracked screen..... the microphone doesn't work, so they think you're kidnapped or choking to death or something.

Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 01:26 AM (VHUov)

490 If not the blockade isn't going anywhere and we have enough fire power on the doorstep to blow Iran into oblivion.
-
It's all worthless if Trump doesn't have the stomach to use it.

The Iranian regime's behavior suggests that they believe that to be the case. They don't seem to much care about our blockade either.

I know this will come as news to people who are accustomed to a society where we demand lower interest rates so that we can more easily live on borrowed money, but some people are sufficiently disciplined that they can make do with less if that's necessary to achieve the goals that matter to them.

Posted by: Methos at May 25, 2026 01:26 AM (vSvIl)

491 389 I worked in a Winn Dixie. Never trusted the butchers.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:19 AM (qrzX6)

One of my son's was in elementary school when the 'Because of Winn Dixie' book and movie came out. Several of his school buddies were surprised to learn there really was such a chain. Then I told them about Piggly Wiggly.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:26 AM (QGaXH)

492 I think most of those chains were regional. Can’t say I remember any of them. I always thought of Howard Johnson as a hotel rather than a restaurant.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 01:29 AM (po3Ws)

493
Alan Dershowitz left the Democrat party a few months ago. He said he was just cutting loose, going indie. About a week ago he announced he's now Republican. Says he's 87 but he'll do what he can. I think he could do a lot by talking to older people who hesitate to change lifelong (bad) habits.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:29 AM (n7rxJ)

494 430 In Florida we used to go to Bonanza Steak House....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 12:36 AM (QGaXH)

They had a similar chain called The Ponderosa .
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:39 AM (qrzX6)

Could have been Ponderosa and my parents just referred to it as Bonanza...memory fades....wish now I'd paid a lot more attention to some things.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:32 AM (QGaXH)

495 Old Milwaukee was a buck and a half for a six-pack at the base exchange, so it was my drink of choice when I was a poor, broke airman.
Posted by: a.moron at May 24, 2026 10:24

Old Mil was my fave as a broke college kid. A special in 1974 was a six pack for 1.99.

Cheap beers not mentioned were Buckhorn; Red, White and Blue; and Leinenkugels.

You could get a 12 pack of Leinie bottles, then return all the bottles for 12 cents. Being broke college kids we kept a stash of the empties in the kitchen corner for emergency beer purchases.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 01:32 AM (55Qr6)

496 I'll let you guys know if I hear a really loud explosion to the north....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:33 AM (QGaXH)

497 Second thoughts: Something's going on that we don't know anything about. We are having ZERO contention from Israel. Netanyahu is a happy camper. Netanyahu and most of Israel want to be rid of the Iranians and they both agree Iran will have no uranium.

Meanwhile Trump is realigning the world and there's not too much attention on Netanyahu cleaning up Gaza and Lebanon.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:34 AM (D2ex+)

498 Could have been Ponderosa and my parents just referred to it as Bonanza...memory fades....wish now I'd paid a lot more attention to some things.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia


Both existed; they're owned by the same company now.

Posted by: mikeski at May 25, 2026 01:34 AM (VHUov)

499 434 ARiK don't think those chains made it south of the Orange Curtain. Oscar's was a local star that faded away. Of course Jack in the Box started here but didn't go national til the 80s, I think?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 12:40 AM (U/Byj)

I remember Jack being in upstate NY in the mid-70's

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:34 AM (QGaXH)

500 496 I'll let you guys know if I hear a really loud explosion to the north....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK)
--

Pull drapes over the widows.
Flying glass and all that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:37 AM (D2ex+)

501 469 Rain keeps coming rain keeps coming down down down...
One fine day we will have sunshine, but rain in the forecast for the rest of the week. Two weeks ago we were in a drought. Now it's watch for flooding. If we get three straight days without rain we will be in a drought again. The weather people just say that so we can't burn brush piles Assholes.
Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:02 AM (8XBuM)

Who'll stop the rain?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:40 AM (QGaXH)

502 >>It's all worthless if Trump doesn't have the stomach to use it.

Seems kind of a stretch to me after watching what Trump did in both his first term with ISIS and the ME and this term in Venezuela and the infamous drug boats he routinely blows to shit to say he doesn't have the stomach to kill our enemies when he thinks that is the right action. He's already sunk Iran's navy, blown up much of their missile capability and destroyed most of their industrial capacity to rearm.

He obviously wants to negotiate the end of this one and so far has united pretty much the rest of the Middle East to go along. And I bet he has China, that needs Iran's oil, deeply involved.

But if the negotiations ultimately fail he still has the military power to end it. It's been a few months not a few years and the elections are months away.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 01:40 AM (viF8m)

503 493
Alan Dershowitz left the Democrat party a few months ago. He said he was just cutting loose, going indie. About a week ago he announced he's now Republican. Says he's 87 but he'll do what he can. I think he could do a lot by talking to older people who hesitate to change lifelong (bad) habits.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
---

Have dinner with Trump and discover he's not a boar.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:41 AM (D2ex+)

504 Thousands and thousands of Californians being evacuated?
What's the super hard working smart Governor doing about it? Oh, not his problem huh? I guess it's Trump's fault or something.

Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:42 AM (8XBuM)

505 205 156 OK, here is a fashion question.

I'm fairly thin and I have no hips.

So when I buy jeans invariably they get loose after a couple of washes and while I can always use a belt its not the most comfortable thing in the world.

Am I just buying crappy brands of jeans?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2026 10:47 PM

Jeans bagging out can be a problem, especially jeans with stretch, but you might be buying them too big to start. If you can handle the break in, find 100% cotton, like zero stretch at all, in the slimmest fit you can handle.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 11:00 PM (p4NUW)


I know almost nothing about fashion, but (for hormonal reasons) I remembered Kate Moss in jeans, so I looked it up and they were Calvin Klein in the early '90s. Brave AI summary allows follow-up questions, so I found they're still making jeans, and even have some '90s throwback styles available.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 01:42 AM (Sy6m/)

506 488 Still a Marie Callender's close to me. Last close Coco's closed a few years ago. Carrows was I think mostly north of SD County.

Don't remember the Sambo's in Santa Barbara, can't picture it. And the Big Yellow House just south in Summerland wasn't a chain, was it?

Biggest loss in Santa Barbara was, for me, Guadalajara, on lower State Street. Only chorizo enchiladas I've ever encountered, fantastic.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2026 01:23 AM (U/Byj)

I thought there were more than one Big Yellow House. The building was/is still there off the 101. I recall Carrow's saying they started in Santa Barbara.

I believe Sambo's became Denny's after the unpleasantness.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:46 AM (QGaXH)

507 Cheap beer was always Lucky Lager.

Posted by: 13times at May 25, 2026 01:49 AM (4hs6d)

508 It might be the electro-mechanical timer. It is the one part that could mean an intermittent fault.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:03 PM (rbvCR)


Maybe you're living in a movie (possibly Japanese), and the Spirit of the Device is just happier in the back yard.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 01:50 AM (Sy6m/)

509 500 496 I'll let you guys know if I hear a really loud explosion to the north....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK)
--

Pull drapes over the widows.
Flying glass and all that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 01:37 AM (D2ex+)

Thank you for good advice.

Usually sleep with drapes closed. I live in a densely populated area - house to the north is about 10' away. Should be well shielded.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:51 AM (QGaXH)

510 Everything is playing out, as expected.

The world and global commerce cannot be sustained with timid diplomacy.

The players have to step up to accept their stake in their livelihood.

We will facilitate; you must act.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 01:53 AM (D1E+2)

511
Trump having no guts lol. He sent Rubio to India a week after changing immigration laws so that they have to go home to apply for a Green Card.

The howls of entitled outrage about that on X are eye-splitting.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:54 AM (n7rxJ)

512 Finally finished cooking enough for tomorrow me and for my parents and for a little potluck at my aunt and uncle's, so now I can just relax. (That's why I've been intermittent.) Whew.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 01:55 AM (Sy6m/)

513 Is there anyone left who even knows what I'm talking about?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:38

Oh yes, Miss Tammy. It was right around the time I first started reading here. I'm guessing maybe Memorial Day 2011?

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 01:55 AM (55Qr6)

514 502 >>It's all worthless if Trump doesn't have the stomach to use it......

.....It's been a few months not a few years and the elections are months away.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 01:40 AM (viF8m)

Civil War was 4 years (?)

WW11 was about 3 years 8 months

Viet Nam was what - 7 or 8 years of several hundred dead coming home every month?

I could go on.

Now we want it done in a few weeks?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:56 AM (QGaXH)

515 513 Is there anyone left who even knows what I'm talking about?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 24, 2026 10:38

Oh yes, Miss Tammy. It was right around the time I first started reading here. I'm guessing maybe Memorial Day 2011?
Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 01:55 AM (55Qr6)

Before my time - I think I started haunting this place around 2014 or 15.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornia (ARiK) at May 25, 2026 01:58 AM (QGaXH)

516 >>Trump having no guts lol. He sent Rubio to India a week after changing immigration laws so that they have to go home to apply for a Green Card.

>>The howls of entitled outrage about that on X are eye-splitting.

He did it almost as Rubio was landing in India. And it has been wild watching mostly Indian accounts freak out on X.

I think it's a huge mistake to focus on any one thing Trump does in foreign relations and not see he is completely changing the playing field. Trump doesn't just know how to use the military, he knows how to use all the levers of power.

Ask Hasan Piker.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2026 02:03 AM (viF8m)

517 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 01:54 AM (n7rxJ)

I believe he actually just started enforcing the laws as written, which makes the outrage reek even more of entitlement.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 02:04 AM (Sy6m/)

518 1

@RealJamesWoods
Will Republicans ever have what it takes to indict this Trojan Horse?
Michelle has more balls than the entire Republican caucus in the Senate.
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his is the world’s number-one sponsor of terror.

Barack Obama took $400 million in untraceable cash from something called the “Judgment Fund,” which is administered by the U.S. Department of the Treasury. That little-known account is funded entirely by American taxpayers and was set up so he could bypass congressional approval to send cash — effectively a ransom — to the world’s number-two sponsor of terror, the terror regime of Iran.

Part of this cash Barack Obama diverted through the UAE to Italy to fund—involving Leonardo S.p.A. military satellites to hack U.S. voting machines, flipping votes from Trump to Biden, which ultimately toppled the United States government on November 3, 2020

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:07 AM (D2ex+)

519 2

A further $1.3 billion was transferred in a series of 13 transfers of $99,999,999.99 from the Treasury Department’s Judgment Fund. Each transfer was one cent less than the $100 million limit imposed on such transfers. A member of his syndicate, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, pleaded the Fifth when questioned on the matter by the U.S. Congress.

📝 By the way, Barack Obama is founder of ISIL. All paid by the American taxpayer.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:07 AM (D2ex+)

520 >>>Trump doesn't just know how to use the military, he knows how to use all the levers of power.

Ask Hasan Piker.
Posted by: JackStraw
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He will kill when he thinks it's necessary but he'd rather not. I think allowing Iran time to dick around gives him time to reposition the world and Netanyahu time to do unencumbered cleanup.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:12 AM (D2ex+)

521 Sacha Baron Cohen believes he created the 'Wonderbra for men'

The Testicle Bra

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:21 AM (D2ex+)

522 I think allowing Iran time to dick around gives him time to reposition the world and Netanyahu time to do unencumbered cleanup.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:12 AM (D2ex+)
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A lot more is needed here than cleanup.

Right now very unimpressed with Trump and more so with Netanyahu. I can only hope for good surprises but not counting on anything anymore.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:24 AM (XyZGq)

523 Parents gave their kids just 4 minutes to figure out how to use a rotary dial phone.

The confusion was instant.

Gen Z vs old school tech is pretty hilarious
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https://tinyurl.com/5bp6pek6

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:28 AM (D2ex+)

524 A lot more is needed here than cleanup.

Right now very unimpressed with Trump and more so with Netanyahu. I can only hope for good surprises but not counting on anything anymore.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
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How many does he have to kill a day in order to qualify as cleanup?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:30 AM (D2ex+)

525 Jeepers, everyone's gone to bed. I'm out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:32 AM (D2ex+)

526 How many does he have to kill a day in order to qualify as cleanup?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:30 AM (D2ex+)
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Needed to have made Gaza and S. Lebanon Muslim free and declared them sovereign Israel land for eternity. Anything else is a retreat with our tail between our legs and just another delay till the next round.

This should have been done 40 years ago.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:42 AM (XyZGq)

527 Cheap beer? I recall buying Chief Oskosh for $2.05 for an 8-pack. I see that they closed in 1971.

Image of the can that I recall:
https://shorturl.at/DXeVM
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2026 12:31 AM (XeU6L)
You drank the Chief—-the premium stuff.
We, the lower class, drank Rahr’s.

Posted by: Voter theater. at May 25, 2026 02:43 AM (FCPbW)

528 A LOT of these nostalgia beers we're discussing tonight were not nimble enough to work around (& survive) the brewery industry's yuuge consolidation.
Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 11:16 PM (RCjYY)


I remember reading about that some time ago, when the craft breweries took off like crazy here in Oregon. The executive summary is that the patchwork crazy quilt of laws made distribution the decisive competitive advantage, which inevitably led to consolidation, and low character and short-sightedness led them to cheap out on hops since taste didn't affect profit.

Their hops got worse all the time in both quality and quantity; they settled on concentrates made from oversized Washington hops, purely just a bittering agent rather than flavor per se, and then steadily used less and less of it every year as their competition dwindled. That went on for decades, until eventually they were all such crap that it set the stage for everyone to prefer any microbrew over any legacy lager.

Their crass venality and lack of pride in their work planted the seeds of their own future diminishment, but I can't complain about the ultimate result of delicious craft beers out the ying-yang.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (Sy6m/)

529 These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.

Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!!

https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq)

530 Show some class and put in the front yard.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 11:22

LMAO, spoken like a true Moron.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historic take at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (55Qr6)

531 486 I wouldn't give Iran two cents. How about the countries they have attacked? Give the money to them to rebuild.
Posted by: Case at May 25, 2026 01:20 AM (8XBuM

I’d give Iran two cents, provided I’m getting oil.

And that Iran is governed by sane people.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2026 03:07 AM (po3Ws)

532 Well, that's what I was waiting for: an actual lawyer weighs in on the Fender demand letter fiasco.

Blues Lawyer Confessional - A Lawyer explains the Fender Strat situation...
https://youtu.be/NOdaTPZROM0

There's a stereotype that guitars that look good on your wall are for "blues dentists" and "blues lawyers", so I didn't bother to watch any of the plethora of videos by the usual demo & review guys. It was only a matter of time until someone with relevant knowledge of the law would break it down, and there you go.

Bottom line: it's a PR disaster with no benefit for Fender, since they overreached, and (aside from stress and potential legal fees) it's likely not a problem for anyone else.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:10 AM (Sy6m/)

533 347 I don't know how people think of the late 60's to mid 70's were any type of golden days.
Posted by: polynikes at May 25, 2026 12:00 AM (qrzX6)

I'm guessing you didn't get the white go-go boots with the fringe, or the Huffy with the ape hanger bars and the banana seat.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2026 03:11 AM (DwqWV)

534 Time for some bourbon. A memorial drink to those who sacrificed some, and to those who sacrificed all.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:12 AM (snZF9)

535 529 These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.

Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!!

https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq)

What a self-important horse's ass.

It was a bullshit show that lost money, but he's claiming it was some grand scheme that served humanity.

I'm willing to bet his mom never spanked him, but he probably got beat up on the playground a few times.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2026 03:14 AM (DwqWV)

536 534 Time for some bourbon. A memorial drink to those who sacrificed some, and to those who sacrificed all.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:12 AM (snZF9)

Now let's do something substantive to keep from allowing asshats to take away what they fought and died for, shall we?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2026 03:15 AM (DwqWV)

537 There's a stereotype that guitars that look good on your wall are for "blues dentists" and "blues lawyers", so I didn't bother to watch any of the plethora of videos by the usual demo & review guys.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:10 AM (Sy6m/)

Those review guys can all lick my ass. Most of them are worthless retards.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:15 AM (snZF9)

538 Way too early to get up

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 03:17 AM (Ia/+0)

539 Howard Johnson, Farrell's, I ate at. Red Barn and Burger Chef I had seen driving about. On beer we were usually "slummin' it" with Busch, although Old Milwaukee and Schlitz were not unheard of. Someone mentioned Stroh's? Yeah we drank that too. I think they had a commercial with a car and a dog yes? I liked those commercials.

Someone mentioned A&W? Those are still around and still damn good.

Good riddance to Massie - what an absolute douche-nozzle. Now if my fellow Texians and I can oust Cornyn and a large object can fall on "Thom" Tillis and Murkowski we should be in good shape. (wtf btw is with the spelling of "Thom" - another @ss-clown).

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 25, 2026 03:19 AM (/aZwr)

540 Way too early to get up

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2026 03:17 AM (Ia/+0)
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Waking up can potentially cause various physical and emotional side effects. Ask your doctor if waking up is for you.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:20 AM (XyZGq)

541 Skip, any progress on unstucking the tailgate?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:21 AM (XyZGq)

542 Good riddance to Massie - what an absolute douche-nozzle. Now if my fellow Texians and I can oust Cornyn and a large object can fall on "Thom" Tillis and Murkowski we should be in good shape. (wtf btw is with the spelling of "Thom" - another @ss-clown).

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 25, 2026 03:19 AM (/aZwr)

Thom is the fag version of Tom. Like 2 gay dudes introducing themselves. One says my name is thom. Shit like that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:23 AM (snZF9)

543
White House Communications Director, Steven Cheung had a few words to say about Mike Pompeo:

"Mike Pompeo has no idea what the f*ck he’s talking about. He should shut his stupid mouth and leave the real work to the professionals. He’s not read into anything that’s happening, so how would he know."

Posted by: Braenyard


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Did Pompeo shoot his mouth off about something?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 03:26 AM (n7rxJ)

544 The Weekend White House shooter left behind a few hints on his Twitter account:

https://tinyurl.com/3ec2pua6

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:27 AM (XyZGq)

545
Cheung, in his capacity as Com. Dir doesn't give public statements like this very often. BUT every single one I've seen had profanity included. He must be hilarious around the White House. The man doesn't sugar coat it.
Posted by: Orson

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Plus, he looks like Oddjob.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 03:27 AM (n7rxJ)

546 Did Pompeo shoot his mouth off about something?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 03:26 AM (n7rxJ)
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https://tinyurl.com/ys9vvdte

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 03:28 AM (XyZGq)

547 523 Parents gave their kids just 4 minutes to figure out how to use a rotary dial phone.

The confusion was instant.

Gen Z vs old school tech is pretty hilarious
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https://tinyurl.com/5bp6pek6

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 25, 2026 02:28 AM (D2ex+)

; )

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 03:29 AM (6wpGE)

548 Those review guys can all lick my ass. Most of them are worthless retards.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:15 AM (snZF9)


Harsh, but I can picture it from your point of view. Scott Uhl is the only one I can think of who reviews actual stage gear from a working tour guitarist's perspective. But then, that isn't really a mass market; so it's mostly home-studio players reviewing gear for beginners, and getting a cut through affiliate links.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:31 AM (Sy6m/)

549 Iran we control the strait of hormuz not you taco when we say jump you ask how high!

Posted by: jojo at May 25, 2026 03:36 AM (7i3Fm)

550 I keep two beers around the house for normal everyday type drinkin...

Coors Light for daytime next to the pool... 805s for evenin.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2026 12:59 AM (mP0Kj)

When back home in Texas, I drink Shiner Bock, always keep some around, in bottles. And Woodford Reserve on the Bourbon side. I actually have some Woodford Reserve at my apartment here in Singapore. When i was younger I would keep some Miller High Life in bottles around, and always super cold, for those hot days in summer (It's the champagne of beers dontchyaknow!). I never liked Miller Light - but the regular Miller was pretty good for the price point.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 25, 2026 03:40 AM (/aZwr)

551 Harsh, but I can picture it from your point of view. Scott Uhl is the only one I can think of who reviews actual stage gear from a working tour guitarist's perspective. But then, that isn't really a mass market; so it's mostly home-studio players reviewing gear for beginners, and getting a cut through affiliate links.

Posted by: SciVo at May 25, 2026 03:31 AM (Sy6m/)

Right, most are home studio players without a fucking clue. There are a few that are ok, but a lot are retards. i watched a dude doing a comparison of a real Gibson les paul custom against some chinese pos copy. The dude had no clue what a gibson is. He's got some reissue from the custom shop, he's holding the tail piece and says this feels light and cheap, for the money it costs you would think it was be better metal.

Um, ok retard, #1. its a reissue of a vintage guitar. They used aluminum tail pieces back then, they have a distinct sound. We begged Gibson for decades to reissue the aluminum tail piece, and they finally did. Now I gotta hear stupid dumb fuck millennial neck beards question the lightness and tells gibson it should be heavier because he has no fucking clue what he's holding. Thats just one example.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 25, 2026 03:42 AM (snZF9)

552 >>> When i was younger I would keep some Miller High Life in bottles around, and always super cold, for those hot days in summer (It's the champagne of beers dontchyaknow!). I never liked Miller Light - but the regular Miller was pretty good for the price point.

Posted by: Publius Redux

>My mother still likes to have a Miller High Life on occasion. She's 92 years old. If it's good enough for her, it's good enough for me. Not a bad beer. There is nothing heavy about it. She will also drink a Corona from time to time.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 25, 2026 04:08 AM (D1E+2)

553 These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.

Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!!

https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq)

What a self-important horse's ass.

It was a bullshit show that lost money, but he's claiming it was some grand scheme that served humanity.

I'm willing to bet his mom never spanked him, but he probably got beat up on the playground a few times.
Posted by: tcn in AK
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I read the whole thing. This "Master of the Universe" swims in the sea of Manhattan. He'd flop like a fish out of water anywhere else, with the possible exception of Hollywood.
He'd have a repeat of the playground experience in San Antonio, or Butte, or Indianapolis. If he tried his "people manipulation skills" in a bar in rural anywhere, he'd be picking up teeth in the parking lot.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 25, 2026 04:11 AM (mSL0+)

554
https://tinyurl.com/ys9vvdte
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

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::eyeroll::

I wonder if he'll take credit when Trump walks away with all the cards.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 04:11 AM (n7rxJ)

555 ::eyeroll::

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 25, 2026 04:11 AM (n7rxJ)
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Mike Pompeous

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 04:13 AM (XyZGq)

556 Beers up above? Falstaff

Missing restaurants:

Burger Chef = Burger King

Pup & Taco looks too much like What-a-burger

White Tower looks like a rip-off of White Castle

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Posted by: click site at May 25, 2026 04:21 AM (Qhxsb)

558 These Hollywood megalomaniacs are so full of themselves.

Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!!

https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 25, 2026 02:45 AM (XyZGq)

I mean, he's OCD and all but I feel his pain.

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:23 AM (6wpGE)

559 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:30 AM (6wpGE)

560 Expand the text to see just how long this rant is. I skimmed the text to get the gist of the whine. Unreal!!!

https://tinyurl.com/bdhs95x5
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey


Being proud of losing $40 million dollars a year is not the flex he thinks it is.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2026 04:31 AM (2PamV)

561 I don't see him being proud of it:

We lost $40 million a year. We didn't lose it because the show failed. We lost it because we spent $50 million producing what a podcast host in his garage gives away between mattress ads. The podcast is funnier. The podcast is more dangerous. The podcast has an audience that laughs instead of claps.

Posted by: m at May 25, 2026 04:33 AM (6wpGE)

562 Aw, this was a very nice post. Spending some time and actual effort to produce a very good article… but what can I say… I put things off a lot and never seem to get nearly anything done.

Posted by: Read Full Article at May 25, 2026 06:27 AM (npnpX)

563 Doof, I spent a lot of time at the Golden Ring Mall during my teenage years, 74-79. Where did you go to high school?

Posted by: Hammer Dog at May 25, 2026 06:45 AM (hrMAo)

564 Can the fashion maven recommend men's jeans for a fancy night out? I've got the dress shirt and the shoes down but jeans remain a problem.

Posted by: snakes at May 25, 2026 10:42 AM (OVTL5)

Gun Thread: Fourth May Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Fourth May Edition? Going to be a little bit of a quick one again tonight - I'm traveling and naturally left this until the last minute.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

When was the last time you focused on fundamentals? Please say it was the last time you went to the range. Please? Lie if you have to.

More revolver fundamentals.

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Weird Stuff

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Revolver Cleaning

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Our Pal Sodium Reactors

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What??!!

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Civil Defense After The Bomb!

Protect your hearing in this case, too!

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NoVaMoMe 2026

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What - you thought there wasn't going to be a NoVaMoMe in 2026?

Note: One of the great joys of NoVAMoMe season, at least for me, is being able to cut and paste the entire block of text below and haranguing you to attend the event. Are you attending? Are you focusing on the fundamentals of attending?

Alright, guys and gals, the long awaited and highly anticipated details of the 2026 NoVAMoMe are here! That's right, I finally got my act together and updated the information page for 2026, and need to go over a few details. First, the date is June 20th, 2026 from 11am to 3pm. Nextly, my bestest blog buddy bluebell and I have decided 2026 will continue the longstanding tradition of NoVAMoMe simplification, and want to pass along the changes from prior years.

First, no registration and no advance charge for food. If you would like to attend, send an email to WeaselBell Productions, and let us know. You will be directed to a sekrit webpage with all of the details. We do ask once you have decided to attend to let us know so we can coordinate an expected count with venue management. Once there if you are hungry or thirsty simply order from the onsite menu and pay separately. Cash and credit cards accepted. Next, although fun, we have decided to again take a break from the raffles and mug sales this year. Depending on how it goes, that may be something we bring back in future years. While your generosity is always appreciated, with no prize table, please leave donations and contributions at home, but bring your appetite for a great afternoon spent with your imaginary online friends.

Next, a NoVAMoMe PSA from our pal bluebell

Hi folks - just a quick PSA. If you write for info about the MoMe, please give us a few words in the body of the email just so I know you are a Moron and not a spammer (moron). I do receive spam on this email account because it's sitting right here in my nic, so that's why I'm asking. I don't want to give our details to a spammer. Also, remember to check your spam folder if you don't receive a reply email.

Thanks.
bluebell

Seriously, just send an email then go to the website with the password provided. If you forget, a link to the email is on the main page, left sidebar. If you do not sign up, bluebell will be disappointed. Weasel will be disappointed, too, but it's bluebell you need to worry about.

That's it, people. Don't be a dork. Email WeaselBell Productions today!

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Highway Patrol!

This week's episode: Narcotics Racket!

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The Unearthly!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
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SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo
Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 CONTENT!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (QrtBZ)

2 Bang

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3 Yay! Gubs!

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4 on time, to the second!

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5 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks Weasel as always for the forum!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (t2oSI)

6 Scoob!

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7 Hello folks.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 07:02 PM (CHHv1)

8 and still $ 4, lol!

Thank you Weasel!

alas, I have not been to the range (in far too long!)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:02 PM (VyBeY)

9 4 on time, to the second!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:00 PM (VyBeY)


Almost like some people appreciate the Fundamentals of Time!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 24, 2026 07:03 PM (hOUT3)

10 RMBS!!! Getting ready for the MoMe?

I cleaned the rifle yesterday and also ordered some ammo that should arrive next week. :-)

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11 RMBS!!! Getting ready for the MoMe?

I cleaned the rifle yesterday and also ordered some ammo that should arrive next week. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:04 PM

Oh, hell yeah. Rifles ready. Might even check zero next weekend. Family obligations have prevented range time this weekend.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

12 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 07:06 PM (Ia/+0)

13 Evenin', Skip.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:07 PM (Wnv9h)

14 Watching the Sodium Reactor Experiment Construction video and cringing a bit at the technicians just casually loading uranium slugs into the fuel rods, protected only by the kind of clear plastic gloves that bakers use. Guess OSHA was yet to be unleashed upon that lab.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:07 PM (t2oSI)

15 Evening, Weasel, et al!
What MoMe is this? Have y’all been hiding something from me?!

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:09 PM (UxbHU)

16 Evening, Weasel, et al!
What MoMe is this? Have y’all been hiding something from me?!
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:09 PM (

Double sekret MoMe. Moose Out Front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)

17 Interesting pair of younger (30s) women at the range this past week. Both dual citizens (US-Israel, UK-Israel). American had been a sniper instructor in the IDF. They were shooting an M1A1.

Brit was marveling at the range complex and all the regular people shooting all kinds of guns, said in the UK, nuh-uh, nothing like it. Told her friend to take her to the biggest local gun store, so she could really be taken aback. They had already planned to do that.

I shared one story from the past, in a different America (without the ignorant and ridiculous anti-gun obsessions), and even the American was amazed.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 07:14 PM (U/Byj)

18
Watching the Sodium Reactor Experiment Construction video and cringing a bit at the technicians just casually loading uranium slugs into the fuel rods, protected only by the kind of clear plastic gloves that bakers use. Guess OSHA was yet to be unleashed upon that lab.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy


Wonder what eventually happened to those guys?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (Cqx++)

19 @#9 *fistbump*

accurate time is important, what can I say?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (VyBeY)

20 RMBS, I’m out at my secret Evil Villain Island Lair, but will get back in time to mow the grass.
And to do Evil Villain prep stuff for Evil Black Rifle familiarization.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (UxbHU)

21 14 Guess OSHA was yet to be unleashed upon that lab.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:07 PM

May I introduce to you Operation Plumbob

https://tinyurl.com/54t8w3t7

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:16 PM (QrtBZ)

22 RMBS, I’m out at my secret Evil Villain Island Lair, but will get back in time to mow the grass.
And to do Evil Villain prep stuff for Evil Black Rifle familiarization.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM

*fistbump*

Lawn mowing and Scary Black Rifle prep happening soon.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:18 PM (Wnv9h)

23 Wonder what eventually happened to those guys?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM (Cqx++)


Given the year (195, I'm guessing they went home and fathered three-headed Boomer offspring.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:19 PM (t2oSI)

24 Inadvertent emoji above - I meant to say 1958

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:20 PM (t2oSI)

25 Given the year (195, I'm guessing they went home and fathered three-headed Boomer offspring.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:19 PM


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: J. Random Moron at May 24, 2026 07:20 PM (0sNs1)

26 May I introduce to you Operation Plumbob

https://tinyurl.com/54t8w3t7
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:16 PM (QrtBZ)


Love the Fat Electrician! I heard him talk about the manhole cover on the Unsubscribe podcast, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the video.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM (t2oSI)

27 17, yeah, rhomboid, it was a different world in the Before Time ... the other day I was telling a couple of young folk who were going to go trap shooting this weekend about riding bicycles with cased shotguns through Lincoln Park to the lakefront trap/skeet range back in the 80s.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 07:23 PM (VyBeY)

28 Harry Callahan treated shooting as a match: Heavy double action revolver, light special load. Try it yourself. Four to six inch Model 29 loaded with off the shelf .44 Special compared to a Model 1917 .45 ACP with 230 grain ball or the 125 gr JHP .357 Magnum. Its OK, I have my boomer card on me.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 24, 2026 07:27 PM (YlWIZ)

29 *Puts on hat*
*goes looking for Doof*

Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:29 PM (xcxpd)

30 28 Harry Callahan treated shooting as a match: Heavy double action revolver, light special load. Try it yourself. Four to six inch Model 29 loaded with off the shelf .44 Special compared to a Model 1917 .45 ACP with 230 grain ball or the 125 gr JHP .357 Magnum. Its OK, I have my boomer card on me.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey

The recoil on the 357 125gr is not bad in the same weight of revolver compared to the 44 Special or 45 ACP. Blast is what is a pita which gets worse the shorter the barrel is. Well behaved in a carbine length barrel while adding about 400-500 fps or more while the 44 Special or 45 ACP don't gain maybe 150-200 if lucky. 44 Magnum in a carbine is a different story as is the 41. Slower burning powders benefit from longer barrels.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:32 PM (E4rtv)

31 Howdy

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at May 24, 2026 07:33 PM (sAmhv)

32 Love the Fat Electrician! I heard him talk about the manhole cover on the Unsubscribe podcast, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the video.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM

He just posted a new WWI video.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 07:33 PM (Wnv9h)

33 Hello, Weasel! USS Seawolf (SSN-575), a half sister to the more famous USS Nautilus (SSN-571), was originally built with a liquid sodium reactor. Commissioned in March 1957, she went through two years of trials before the liquid sodium reactor was judged unsuccessful. Seawolf went back to the yard for removal of the liquid sodium reactor. It was replaced with a pressurized water plant similar to that fitted to the Nautilus.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 07:33 PM (BCwQW)

34 On fundamentals, dry fire only.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:37 PM (E4rtv)

35 20 And to do Evil Villain prep stuff for Evil Black Rifle familiarization.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 07:15 PM

Looking forward to it!!
Was fooling around yesterday with the Kestral app on my phone setting up the rifle and bullet specs.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:38 PM (QrtBZ)

36 The American Sodium Reactor Experiment did not, alas, have a happy ending: https://tinyurl.com/5fkarwsd

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:38 PM (t2oSI)

37 The boy in front sounds like Weasel, in many ways. The last point probably doesn't.

https://tinyurl.com/4r8pvn83+

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 07:39 PM (qx7Zg)

38 > The American Sodium Reactor Experiment did not, alas, have a happy ending...
_______
I haven't looked, but is this the same technology the Soviets used for the Alpha class SSN?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 07:40 PM (jehhT)

39 The recoil on the 357 125gr is not bad in the same weight of revolver compared to the 44 Special or 45 ACP. Blast is what is a pita which gets worse the shorter the barrel is. Well behaved in a carbine length barrel while adding about 400-500 fps or more while the 44 Special or 45 ACP don't gain maybe 150-200 if lucky. 44 Magnum in a carbine is a different story as is the 41. Slower burning powders benefit from longer barrels.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:32 PM


There is iron in the words of whig for all Morons to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (0sNs1)

40 26 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM

I am subscribed to his channel and even bought some merch.
Love the S.T.E.A.L. t-shirt.

FYI, for October I plan on getting there on Thursday. Have the hotel booked for Thurs to Sun.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (QrtBZ)

41 I bought a lever action 22LR. Henry Sporter, really looking forward to picking it up next week.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (P4bJX)

42 How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Fourth May Edition?

Weasel, may the Fourth be with you!

Posted by: The Fourth Shot at May 24, 2026 07:42 PM (0sNs1)

43 Good evening to everyone of the GunHorde and, as always, a bigly thank you to Weasel. Thank you for all the revolver content. Very helpful.

And for Memorial Day, for those who laid down their lives for us, and for those who have served, may we honor them by our actions.

Posted by: Coelacanth at May 24, 2026 07:43 PM (DJPFk)

44 Good evening all
Solved a big problem this week. As I mentioned last week, I'd fallen in love with this pistol owned by SRA Blaster, the Kimber CDS9. The problem was the 15 rd mag which is prohibited in MD. Not to own it, just to buy it. My FFL said I'll sell it to you but I can't give you the mags.I called my range which sells guns in VA and they helped me resolve this and gave me a better price on the gun.
And there's more.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 07:44 PM (kJmSS)

45 29 *Puts on hat*
*goes looking for Doof*
Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:29 PM (xcxpd)


You won't find me until you learn how to spell better

Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:44 PM (QMAsf)

46 The recoil on the 357 125gr is not bad in the same weight of revolver compared to the 44 Special or 45 ACP. Blast is what is a pita which gets worse the shorter the barrel is. Well behaved in a carbine length barrel while adding about 400-500 fps or more while the 44 Special or 45 ACP don't gain maybe 150-200 if lucky. 44 Magnum in a carbine is a different story as is the 41. Slower burning powders benefit from longer barrels.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:32 PM (E4rtv)

Whig is 100% right on muzzle blast and short barrels. 125 grain .357 Magnums out of a 6" barrel Python are quite controllable. 4" is a bit of handful, but still controllable. 3" and 2.5" snubbies are completely unmanageable and a very unpleasant experience. Hokey Pokey, I have a pre-Model 29 (1957 manufacture, I think) that is quite controllable with .44 Special. I also have a Colt New Service from 1914 in .45 Long Colt. Although I haven't shot them head to head, I think the pre-Model 29 is better because it has (for me) better ergonomics. The "coke bottle" grips fit my hands pretty well, and the length of the reach to the trigger for my index finger works better on the S&W than the Colt.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 07:45 PM (BCwQW)

47 Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:29 PM (xcxpd)

You won't find me until you learn how to spell better
Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:44 PM


"Be careful what you ask for."
-- Perry the Platÿpus

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:46 PM (0sNs1)

48 There is iron in the words of whig for all Morons to see.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

One could do far worse than having a lever action 357 Magnum carbine matched with a 357 Magnum revolver, especially in unfree states. The old cowboy trick of carrying a carbine and revolver that shot the same ammo still works, especially in places where you have all kinds of crap rules to buy ammo and having to deal with assault rifle or semi auto bans.

Only deficit that a lever action has is difficult to shoot and operate in prone position.

Easy to reload the ammo for it too if worst comes to worst and you can shoot 38 Specials in them for low recoil and blast practice.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:46 PM (E4rtv)

49 A gun thread platypus??

PERRY the gun thread platypus!!!

Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:47 PM (QMAsf)

50 "Only deficit that a lever action has is difficult to shoot and operate in prone position."

Is that why Lucas McCain often went into a barrel roll in a gunfight?

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:48 PM (vFG9F)

51 There are two CDS9's that are sight ready. SRA Blaster's has a fancy grip which makes the price higher. The CDS9 Classic has a plain grip. Turns out the range has one for rent so I'll be able to see if the grip makes my difference in how well I shoot.
So win/win thanks to Range person Amy who answered all my questions promptly on price and features and Blaster for invaluable technical assistance and letting me borrow SRA Blaster's gun.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 07:48 PM (kJmSS)

52 The "coke bottle" grips fit my hands pretty well, and the length of the reach to the trigger for my index finger works better on the S&W than the Colt.
Posted by: Ed L
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If you get a hankering, look for a 357 Shooting Master in a New Service. Colt subtly altered the trigger reach and grip for the Shooting Master in 357 and the general run of the mill 38 Special. I think they may have made a very few Shooting Masters in 38 Special too. (The New Service in 38 Special is more akin to the Smith 38/44 Outdoorsman in strength).

Border Patrol used 38 Special New Service revolvers for years as did some other government agencies like the TVA.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:50 PM (E4rtv)

53 FYI, for October I plan on getting there on Thursday. Have the hotel booked for Thurs to Sun.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:41 PM (QrtBZ)


Holiday Inn Express again?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:51 PM (t2oSI)

54 49 A gun thread platypus??

PERRY the gun thread platypus!!!
Posted by: Doof at May 24, 2026 07:47 PM (QMAsf)

*kicks Doof*

Posted by: Perry the Platapus at May 24, 2026 07:52 PM (xcxpd)

55 Is that why Lucas McCain often went into a barrel roll in a gunfight?
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:48 PM


How many .44-40 shots do you count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rl-FGETfS4

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:52 PM (0sNs1)

56 *fixes nic*

Posted by: Perry the Platypus at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (xcxpd)

57 There's a 2011 called the platypus. It's made to order, and color your want.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (P4bJX)

58 50 "Only deficit that a lever action has is difficult to shoot and operate in prone position."

Is that why Lucas McCain often went into a barrel roll in a gunfight?
Posted by: fd

That and chewing up the scene. But yes, you do have to roll up and to the left (or right)
a bit to operate the lever easily while prone. Trying to operate them sideways while prone is a pita and likely to cause a jam malfunction.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (E4rtv)

59 53 Holiday Inn Express again?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:51 PM

Affirmative

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (g5tO/)

60 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread Horde! No gun stuff to report. been roofing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (8zz6B)

61 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread Horde! No gun stuff to report. been roofing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM


I don't think Weasel is paying much attention to the Thread this evening, so you *may* escape an entry in your Permanent Record.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (0sNs1)

62 So win/win thanks to Range person Amy who answered all my questions promptly on price and features and Blaster for invaluable technical assistance and letting me borrow SRA Blaster's gun.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Kudos. Glad you could make it work.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (E4rtv)

63 No gun stuff to report. been roofing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (8zz6B)
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No nail gun?

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (vEOHn)

64 Sergeant: "Soldier! Why did you blow your cover and run out of those bushes?!"

Soldier: Sorry, sir. I stayed still when a dog peed on me. I stayed still when a snake crawled over my neck."

Sergeant: "Then what happened?"

Soldier: "Two squirrels ran up my pants, and one said, 'Let's eat one now and save the other for winter. That's when I lost it, sir!"

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 07:57 PM (qx7Zg)

65 Weasel, anything burning tonight?

Trying my first Karen Berger cigar, her Cameroon, so far so good.

The bird wars are interesting this time of year. Coopers hawks, another bigger raptor pair, crows, mocking birds. Noisy at times.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 07:58 PM (Pp3EP)

66 Affirmative
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:53 PM (g5tO/)


Got 'er done. Popular place, that one. Looks like it's almost sold out ... wonder why?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:58 PM (t2oSI)

67 Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 07:58 PM (Pp3EP)
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CAO Brazilia!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 07:59 PM (vEOHn)

68 I haven't looked, but is this the same technology the Soviets used for the Alpha class SSN?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 07:40 PM (jehhT)

The Alfas used a lead-bismuth reactor. This reactor was able to produce a lot of power in relatively small volume. The downside is that the high temperatures are quite corrosive and the reactor cannot go cold lest the metal literally freezes in the pipes. Adding chlorides (commonly found with seawater) risks greatly accelerating the rate of corrosion on the piping and mechanical systems. At least two loss of coolant accidents are known to have happened on Alfas, resulting in contamination of reactor compartment. Tom Clancy alludes to this problem with the Alfa class in the prelude to the sinking of an Alfa in his book, "The Hunt for Red October."

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 07:59 PM (BCwQW)

69 One could do far worse than having a lever action 357 Magnum carbine matched with a 357 Magnum revolver

Agree 100%. I had that combo for a long time for the reasons you mentioned. Eventually parted with the rifle but it is indeed a good pairing.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 24, 2026 08:00 PM (ceJ0R)

70 No nail gun?
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 07:56 PM (vEOHn)

Armstrong stapler for the tar paper. Roofing nails for the shingles, which is tomorrow's job. Any luck we will be done tomorrow by 10 AM.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 08:01 PM (8zz6B)

71 Hello, Weasel! USS Seawolf (SSN-575), a half sister to the more famous USS Nautilus (SSN-571), was originally built with a liquid sodium reactor. Commissioned in March 1957, she went through two years of trials before the liquid sodium reactor was judged unsuccessful. Seawolf went back to the yard for removal of the liquid sodium reactor. It was replaced with a pressurized water plant similar to that fitted to the Nautilus.
Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026


***
I built the Aurora models of both! And the Skipjack too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:01 PM (wzUl9)

72 Thanks Whig.
Now I have to figure out what sight to put on it. I tried watching some YouTube's and I like the Holosun on my Glock, but there may be less expensive options. Need to do more research.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 08:02 PM (kJmSS)

73 If you get a hankering, look for a 357 Shooting Master in a New Service. Colt subtly altered the trigger reach and grip for the Shooting Master in 357 and the general run of the mill 38 Special. I think they may have made a very few Shooting Masters in 38 Special too. (The New Service in 38 Special is more akin to the Smith 38/44 Outdoorsman in strength).

Border Patrol used 38 Special New Service revolvers for years as did some other government agencies like the TVA.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 07:50 PM (E4rtv)

I think I've seen a .357 Shooting Master only once. It was darn near pristine and (at the time), out of my price range.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:03 PM (BCwQW)

74 66 Got 'er done. Popular place, that one. Looks like it's almost sold out ... wonder why?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:58 PM

We may never know......... ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 08:04 PM (g5tO/)

75 Looking forward to it!!
Was fooling around yesterday with the Kestral app on my phone setting up the rifle and bullet specs.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:38 PM (QrtBZ)

Do not forget your notepad and pencil, young Padawan!

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:04 PM (6YO2I)

76 Weasel, otimo! Isso e cigarro muito gostoso e bem forte.

That is, quite tasty and pretty strong.

May write this one up if it continues as it is now.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:05 PM (Pp3EP)

77 Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:05 PM (Pp3EP)
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Agreed. Great construction and very puffable!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 08:07 PM (vEOHn)

78 Shooting full power .357 125 grain loads out of a 4 inch barrel makes a fellow understand why cops were so eager to adopt high capacity 9mm pistols when they became available. I find the muzzle blast to be downright irritating, and I've been pulling triggers for fun and profit for a long time.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 08:08 PM (aMrr2)

79 I think I've seen a .357 Shooting Master only once. It was darn near pristine and (at the time), out of my price range.
Posted by: Ed L a
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They aren't common but sell for under what a registered N Frame Smith would. Shooting Masters never developed the mystique that the Registered Magnums did (probably due to FBI use as much as anything).

I've developed some decent 357 loads using the 125 gr bullet with less blast and still clocking about 1350-1400 out of a 4 inch barrel. W 231- gets you to about 1300 fps. Titegroup gets you to that next level with a bit wider tolerance. The other trick is to go to a lighter 110 gr Hollow Point, lighter recoil and less blast with those as well.

Since I wouldn't hunt with one, don't need the H 110 etc. sturm and blast to push a 158 gr bullet into a bear.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)

80 Thinking to set up the lever/revolver combo in 2 calibers, 45 Colt and 357. Have a 45c lever and a few 357 revolvers. So need to add a45c revolver and 357 lever. Reload both calibers already.

In position to acquire an S&W 25-3 cheap, but it’s a commemorative one and shooting a collectible is another decision, though I already do that with other platforms.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (Pp3EP)

81 Hog hunting is in the ofting again. A group of about 50 piglets ran across the road night before last. They come my way I am ready for them

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (5P5DO)

82 Love the Fat Electrician! I heard him talk about the manhole cover on the Unsubscribe podcast, but I'm looking forward to the rest of the video.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 07:22 PM

Good smoke. Can confirm.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)

83 I picked up a Taurus that has 2 cyliners just so I could see the difference in recoil for 9mm vs 357 in the same platform.
9mm recoils harder in a revolver, that slide and sping cuts the recoil a lot. 357 is still way more tho.

That little experiment cost me $500.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 08:12 PM (P4bJX)

84 78 Shooting full power .357 125 grain loads out of a 4 inch barrel makes a fellow understand why cops were so eager to adopt high capacity 9mm pistols when they became available. I find the muzzle blast to be downright irritating, and I've been pulling triggers for fun and profit for a long time.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Reloading the right powder and bullet combo makes a 357 Magnum more pleasant.

If you have a K Frame or heavier in it, try switching to the Winchester Silvertip HP 140 GR in 357 Mag-less blast and less recoil/overpenetration than the 158 gr. hunting bullets.

Firing 125 grs in the older K-Frame models flame cuts the top strap and tends to crack the barrel at the forcing cone where it is flattened to allow the cylinder to be closed. New models with sleeved barrels, not a problem.

I prefer Rugers, both the Security series and the GP-100 in 357 Magnum though. You can actually fit a Security series into a Smith K Frame holster for a 357 magnum model of the same barrel length.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:13 PM (E4rtv)

85 75 Do not forget your notepad and pencil, young Padawan!

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:04 PM

Yes Obi Wan, that is always in the range bag.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 08:14 PM (g5tO/)

86
50 piglets??

Does the state do anything to keep the hog situation under control or are ya'll on your own?

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 08:14 PM (3ek7K)

87 They aren't common but sell for under what a registered N Frame Smith would. Shooting Masters never developed the mystique that the Registered Magnums did (probably due to FBI use as much as anything).
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:08 PM (E4rtv)

FBI adoption definitely adds to the collector price for Registered Magnums. One I saw with paperwork showing it was purchased and subsequently used by an FBI agent until his retirement was asking for low five figures a few years back.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:15 PM (BCwQW)

88 One could do far worse than having a lever action 357 Magnum carbine matched with a 357 Magnum revolver

I have an irrational desire for an 1873 Winchester and a Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .45LC both in color-case finish and matching engraving. Sadly, the Powerball is not cooperating with my desires lately.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 08:16 PM (vTZFs)

89 83 I picked up a Taurus that has 2 cyliners just so I could see the difference in recoil for 9mm vs 357 in the same platform.
9mm recoils harder in a revolver, that slide and sping cuts the recoil a lot. 357 is still way more tho.

That little experiment cost me $500.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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I don't like 9mm in revolvers, especially if of the snubbie variety. You can get bullet jump from the cartridge to tie the cylinder as a taper crimp is just not as good at holding the bullet as a roll crimp. Mainly a problem in hotter loadings.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:16 PM (E4rtv)

90 Always thought having 2 different types of firearms with same caliber would be convenient

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 08:17 PM (Ia/+0)

91 I have an irrational desire for an 1873 Winchester and a Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .45LC both in color-case finish and matching engraving. Sadly, the Powerball is not cooperating with my desires lately.
Posted by: Oddbob
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45 Long Colt is a man (and critter) killer in a revolver. I had to look it up, but in a carbine, it hits about like a 44 Magnum carbine would but I think you would have to pair it with a Ruger as you say above to do that.

I wouldn't shoot that in an Uberti SAA.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (E4rtv)

92 My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.

What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT)

93 45 Colt lever is a beautiful Uberti repro 1866, so only “traditional” lower pressure ammo for her. Would be nice with a 357 lever to be able to use full-house 357 loads. Have plenty of H110 for M1 carbine reloading.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:23 PM (Pp3EP)

94 92 My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.

What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT)

No love for a .22 semi auto?
Lots to be said for a Ruger SR 22 or a Glock 44.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:23 PM (6YO2I)

95 Tying the Gun Thread and the American Sodium Reactor Experiment -- apparently the disposal method for the sodium was to transport it in barrels to a burn pit area, shoot the barrel with a rifle to introduce oxygen and induce a reaction, and then let the resulting toxic (but hopefully not radioactive) smoke waft over the surrounding area in what is now Simi Valley, CA.

No word on whether bags and/or bipods were used on the rifle to prevent wobbly shit.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:25 PM (t2oSI)

96 Oddbob that’s a good irrational desire. Classy guns.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:25 PM (Pp3EP)

97 Tying the Gun Thread ... Experiment together

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:26 PM (t2oSI)

98 > What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT)

No love for a .22 semi auto?
Lots to be said for a Ruger SR 22 or a Glock 44.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:23 PM (6YO2I)
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I have a SR 22. She can't rack it. Arthritis. Her preference is a revolver.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:26 PM (jehhT)

99 90 Always thought having 2 different types of firearms with same caliber would be convenient
Posted by: Skip

We have a fair number of people in outright hostile jurisdictions to firearms (even ammo purchases) and that carries over if you actually had to use one in those jurisdictions. Revolvers and Lever Actions often slip through the cracks and yet are as potent now as they were in cowboy times.

38-40, 32-20, 44-40 were all classic combos of carbines and revolvers back in those days. But the 357, 41 (hard to find that combo), and 44 Magnum have better ballistics than those firearms of yore and much easier to reload if you had to for ammo.

I've done all reloading tasks using a Lee's hand press with dies for those and a scoop powder measure. Easy peasy. And 38 special and 357 Magnum use the same dies, you just have to adjust the settings a bit. Same for 44 Magnum and 44 Special and I would imagine the same for 41 Mag.

The older cowboy cartridges were designed to get the most out of black powder and have very slight necks angles that are easy to bugger up when reloading.

Modern cartridges that I named above are straight walled cases which makes it easy to reload.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (E4rtv)

100 My wife would like a .22 revolver.

Can you at least upsell her to a .22 Mag? Ruger has an LCRx in .22M. No personal experience but hey, it's a Ruger. Kind of like McDonald's -- no surprises.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (vTZFs)

101 100!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (t2oSI)

102 Glock 44 is a pleasure to shoot and easy. It turned out to be an excellent gateway gun for me. Ammo is inexpensive.
I never really got into revolvers. I find the trigger pull to be difficult.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 08:28 PM (kJmSS)

103 101 100!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:27 PM (t2oSI)


Missed it by that much.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 08:28 PM (t2oSI)

104 I have a SR 22. She can't rack it. Arthritis. Her preference is a revolver.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:26 PM (jehhT)

Understood. I hear good things about the Heritage Rough Rider. But check out gunscorner.com for a good list.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 08:31 PM (w30OO)

105 My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.

What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 08:20 PM (jehhT)
8",
The Colt King Cobra 22 is available in 8", 6", 4", 3" and 2" barrel lengths, blued or stainless finishes, and holds 10 rounds. I have a 3" King Cobra in .357. Although the trigger isn't as refined as the Python's, the current King Cobra's trigger is (in my opinion) significantly better than most old school revolvers from the 20th century save the most refined (i.e. Pythons). Yes, it's significantly more than the competition, but that's what you pay for a better trigger and the Colt "prancing pony."

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:32 PM (BCwQW)

106 S&W M&P 22 pistol is nice. Eats most flavors of 22LR without problems. Larger frame than the SR22 if such is desired.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:32 PM (Pp3EP)

107 92 My wife would like a .22 revolver. She's shot my .38 S/W but hates the trigger. I do too. It's got a 90lb break. Or close to it. Yes, I know that can be fixed. She's still not enamored with .38.

What ya' got? Purse carry. Car central storage too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

I would get her a handgun that shoots 32 S&W Long. You can buy a 32 H&R magnum and it will shoot 32 S&W Long (or even Short) all day long. Minimal recoil and hits a bit harder than a 22 LR.

The main reason is unless you get a bigger and bulkier revolver (K Frame or above) in 22 LR, the trigger pull is harder on those simply to set off the harder primed case rims of the 22 LR cartridge. Requires more umph. A 32 is center fired and easy peasy to shoot with better ballistics. Does fine in short barrels too.

You can move up to the 32 H&R Magnum which in reality is about like a 38 Special with slightly less recoil.

Charter Arms makes their Undercoverrette revolver which is reasonably priced. Their professional model, I think, holds seven cartridges for about 50-75 bucks more. 3 inch barrel which is excellent for self defense.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:34 PM (E4rtv)

108 This week's project: Do you have a 1911 laying about that you wish had bigger, more visible sights? Maybe it has a damaged barrel too? Cdnnsports.com has the answer:

https://shorturl.at/EimR5

A slide and barrel combo for $150. I have a overly modified, compensated "bowling pin" gun that I used to shoot IPSC with that I want to put back into service. This should do it.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 08:35 PM (aMrr2)

109 I never really got into revolvers. I find the trigger pull to be difficult.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Requires Weasel's trigger and sight fundamentals to a T to fire double action revolvers well. Snubbies even more so.

But, if you can fire those successfully, learning to handle a double action trigger transfers over to semi autos and rifles. Ironically, the best revolver trigger pulls come from the really big framed revolvers. That is because it is all about leverage and bigger revolvers have longer levers--plus a big cylinder acts almost like a flywheel compared to smaller revolvers.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv)

110 But the 357, 41 (hard to find that combo), and 44 Magnum have better ballistics than those firearms of yore and much easier to reload if you had to for ammo.

I've done all reloading tasks using a Lee's hand press with dies for those and a scoop powder measure. Easy peasy. And 38 special and 357 Magnum use the same dies, you just have to adjust the settings a bit. Same for 44 Magnum and 44 Special and I would imagine the same for 41 Mag.


A lever in .41 Mag can be a tad challenging, but the more difficult the quest, the sweeter win.

There is a .41 Special, and Starline produces brass for it. I'm unaware of any commercial loadings, but I've never really looked for it. I have downloaded .41 Mag to .41 Special levels, but absent a decent lightweight revolver built for .41 Special, I've never loaded .41 Special ammo, but yes, you can use the same dies, adjusting the settings.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 08:40 PM (0sNs1)

111 I have a Henry and Taurus both in.44 Magnum. The Taurus was backup/bear medicine alongside bear spray up in some very back country parts of Montana on an elk hunt. The Henry has taken a _lot_ of deer over the last few years.
My Cowboy rig is paired Uberti .45s and a Uberti 1866 clone in the same caliber. Haven’t used the 1866 on a deer yet though. I’ve loaded the.45 down a little. Finally have the strength back in my left hand enough to control the rifle. It’s been a long 9 months…

Posted by: Coelacanth at May 24, 2026 08:41 PM (50AHF)

112 Volquartsen makes a great .22lr semi that anyone can rack because of the unique bolt you pull back. The spawn has taught many an 'ette how to shoot with it and everyone loves it. She shoots the 4.5" Black mamba. For carry purposes the 3" is perfect.

Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at May 24, 2026 08:41 PM (VCgbV)

113 In position to acquire an S&W 25-3 cheap, but it’s a commemorative one and shooting a collectible is another decision, though I already do that with other platforms.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (Pp3EP)

Buy it. Shoot it. Go hog wild and use it to shoot your Franklin Mint Star Trek Commemorative plates.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 08:42 PM (aMrr2)

114 A slide and barrel combo for $150. I have a overly modified, compensated "bowling pin" gun that I used to shoot IPSC with that I want to put back into service. This should do it.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Probably take a touch of fitting. That combo has a match barrel which can be a bit tricky depending on tolerance stacking. Remington toward the end of its pistol making, was having some QC issues which this may or may not have. SDS is Turkish, I think.

Sarco also sells 1911 parts including barrel, frames, and slides, I think they get a lot of theirs (or did) from the Philippines.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:43 PM (E4rtv)

115 The spawn has taught many an 'ette how to shoot with it
Posted by: lin-duh in Texas at May 24, 2026 08:41 PM


I remember the spawn chasing kittens. My, how time flies.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 08:43 PM (0sNs1)

116 Requires Weasel's trigger and sight fundamentals to a T to fire double action revolvers well. Snubbies even more so.

But, if you can fire those successfully, learning to handle a double action trigger transfers over to semi autos and rifles. Ironically, the best revolver trigger pulls come from the really big framed revolvers. That is because it is all about leverage and bigger revolvers have longer levers--plus a big cylinder acts almost like a flywheel compared to smaller revolvers.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:38 PM (E4rtv)

+1 for this. I figured out how shoot a Python in double action using snap caps before I figured out how to shoot my Detective Special in double action. The really refined trigger on the Python definitely helps too.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:43 PM (BCwQW)

117 RI Red to your text courtesy phone. RI Red to your text courtesy phone.

Posted by: TRex - PA announcer dino at May 24, 2026 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

118 In position to acquire an S&W 25-3 cheap, but it’s a commemorative one and shooting a collectible is another decision, though I already do that with other platforms.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:11 PM (Pp3EP)

Most commemorative edition guns don't hold their purchase price in the collectors' market. Unless you have other reasons to not shoot that commemorative edition firearm, I'd buy it and shoot it guilt free if you need a shooter.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 08:46 PM (BCwQW)

119 There is a .41 Special, and Starline produces brass for it. I'm unaware of any commercial loadings, but I've never really looked for it. I have downloaded .41 Mag to .41 Special levels, but absent a decent lightweight revolver built for .41 Special, I've never loaded .41 Special ammo, but yes, you can use the same dies, adjusting the settings.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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I think the ones that shoot it used to just trim down older 41 Magnum cases in length as the old brass could handle Special pressure for a long while but split at teh case mouth or worse at full mag pressure.

I use a bench press for resizing something like a 44 Magnum. I've reloaded for it but only to shoot in FIL's Taurus Tracker in 44 Magnum. Haven't the desire for one myself. 357 is just fine for me.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:47 PM (E4rtv)

120 Coelacanth the Uberti 1866 weighs a ton. Would think unsuitable for hunting unless you’re getting in your curls and other resistance exercise at the same time.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:48 PM (Pp3EP)

121 +1 for this. I figured out how shoot a Python in double action using snap caps before I figured out how to shoot my Detective Special in double action. The really refined trigger on the Python definitely helps too.
Posted by: Ed L
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Triggers on revolvers are one thing that dry firing (or shooting) them a lot improves. It is also why an old but cared for revolver with honest wear can have a slick trigger due to someone shooting it a lot. Best sort of wearing in to get exact fitting of parts to each other.

It can improve other triggers as well but on old rifles or shotguns, it is best not to do too much of it.

I used to do actual trigger work as I have the stones etc. and had to fix or fit a fair number of old military triggers and after that I did some revolver and semi auto triggers. Something you do by feel and practice with jigs and never alter the actual trigger geometry nor go as far as to stone through case hardening. I don't mess with self defense arm triggers due to risk factors in court. Those are bone stock original.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:53 PM (E4rtv)

122 Idaho and Ed, may well do that. Would provide the revolver part of my 45C combo. And single-action revolvers are exempt from CA’s absurd handgun roster, so no issues with “importing” it. Well, I don’t think so anyway. Actually going to consult a lawyer for the first time in my life, on any matter, about all this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:53 PM (Pp3EP)

123 To finish, arthritis and a loss of hand strength/coordination has pretty much ended messing with mechanical issues by filing/stoning/etc. About the same on woodworking nowadays too.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:54 PM (E4rtv)

124 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 08:54 PM (P4bJX)

125 whig my Model 66 is an example of a “seasoned” trigger improved by use over the years.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 08:56 PM (Pp3EP)

126 Or make a revolver with a fire control unit, just to mess with the ATF.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 24, 2026 08:56 PM (P4bJX)

127 124 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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There are several models of semi auto revolvers. Going way back to a Webley-Fosbery from 1901. I think someone else has repeated that trick, perhaps a Euro manufacturer recently.

The problem with a striker is simply where to put the damn thing on a revolver to get the necessary striking power and then providing positive blocking of the striker. T

here is a reason that the old hammer with a trigger pin or even hitting a transfer bar works.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 08:58 PM (E4rtv)

128 125 whig my Model 66 is an example of a “seasoned” trigger improved by use over the years.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Firearms are one of the few things that I actually prefer to buy used. Older hand tools before Chinesium became common are another.

Triggers are part of wearing in surfaces but on semi autos, the slides on the older metal framed and metal slides, etc. also get smoother with use.

You can use tools and abrasives to speed it up but simply using them works better with less risk for most people.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:01 PM (E4rtv)

129 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.

Weirdness for the sake of weirdness can be fun but usually it's just... weird.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 09:02 PM (vTZFs)

130 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

I bet if a fellow did a patent search he would find there are several already on file, and half of them are by J.M. Browning.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 09:06 PM (aMrr2)

131 129 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.

Weirdness for the sake of weirdness can be fun but usually it's just... weird.
Posted by: Oddbob

I would imagine that someone has already patented such a specimen if you cared to dig through them. You could also shoot an email to Ian at Forgotten Weapons and he might actually know of a prototype or some such that someone made. Back when mechanical and mfg knowledge was more widespread in the US, we had all sorts of inventions with a lot dealing with firearms.

All of that culture fell to the current bean counter mentality of our politicians and corporate managers at the expense of US jobs, industrial knowhow, and key crafts like making the tooling for industry.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:06 PM (E4rtv)

132 May I introduce to you Operation Plumbob

https://tinyurl.com/54t8w3t7
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2026 07:16 PM (QrtBZ)


The best line from the video: "doing Mythbusters shit with DoD money"

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:11 PM (t2oSI)

133
36 The American Sodium Reactor Experiment did not, alas, have a happy ending: https://tinyurl.com/5fkarwsd
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)

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As a kid, I lived in the San Fernando Valley fora few years (mid-60s). Part of that R&D park was Rocketdyne. A neighbor worked there. We'd hear rocket motors being tested sometimes. Once the noise was accompanied by a visible tall plume of smoke in the distance. Went high enough to get zig-zagged from, I suppose, different winds at different altitudes. I had no idea about the nuclear stuff. Or the way they handled toxic waste over there.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (azNOR)

134 I think somebody should do somethign crazy and make a striker fired revolver, just to be wierd.

Weirdness for the sake of weirdness can be fun but usually it's just... weird.
Posted by: Oddbob

I would imagine that someone has already patented such a specimen if you cared to dig through them. You could also shoot an email to Ian at Forgotten Weapons and he might actually know of a prototype or some such that someone made. Back when mechanical and mfg knowledge was more widespread in the US, we had all sorts of inventions with a lot dealing with firearms.

All of that culture fell to the current bean counter mentality of our politicians and corporate managers at the expense of US jobs, industrial knowhow, and key crafts like making the tooling for industry.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:06 PM (E4rtv)

And if it can't make $$ in at least the commercial market (or better yet, big DOW contracts), good luck trying to find anyone willing to spend the $ required to tool up and make the first production run.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (BCwQW)

135 Have a good rest of the night all.
Hope to have a range report next Sunday on my rental experience and whether new pistol is in the works. pretty exciting. Been a while since I did this.
Have a great week

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 09:16 PM (kJmSS)

136 I had no idea about the nuclear stuff. Or the way they handled toxic waste over there.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (azNOR)

SOP from the NRC for most low level radioactive wastes was to bury it on your property in the 1950's through the late 1960s. Much of this had to get dug up in the 1970s and sent to proper nuclear waste disposal sites.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:16 PM (BCwQW)

137 Welp, 9:17pm thank you time.

Thank you!!

Appreciate your being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday! I should be around in the comments a little more!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 09:17 PM (nyLca)

138 And if it can't make $$ in at least the commercial market (or better yet, big DOW contracts), good luck trying to find anyone willing to spend the $ required to tool up and make the first production run.
Posted by: Ed L

It is very possible, in the near future, that we will have 3d metal printing of such parts. Started in aerospace but now trickling down to almost backyard making (think I saw 60k for used past generation metal 3d printers now)

Soon, if someone can imagine it with AI help, then it can be prototype and easily duplicated. Getting that way on a lot of plastic items, reloading, as an example. All sorts of 3d printed add ons developed by someone to make the job easier. Same for jig making.

That is why we need to bring back manufacturing to the US regardless of what the big investors in globalism and the corporate managers want. We need to release the ingenuity of the American worker again.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

139 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (BCwQW)

140 Also time for me to retire.
Thx, Weasel, thx all. Good times upcoming!

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2026 09:19 PM (6YO2I)

141 As a kid, I lived in the San Fernando Valley fora few years (mid-60s). Part of that R&D park was Rocketdyne. A neighbor worked there. We'd hear rocket motors being tested sometimes. Once the noise was accompanied by a visible tall plume of smoke in the distance. Went high enough to get zig-zagged from, I suppose, different winds at different altitudes. I had no idea about the nuclear stuff. Or the way they handled toxic waste over there.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:13 PM (azNOR)


Although it's horrifying to think about now, that must have been fascinating to see as a kid. Of course, it was all denied by the USG as "swamp gas", I'm sure.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:20 PM (t2oSI)

142 Weasel, THANK YOU.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2026 09:22 PM (5P5DO)

143 Thanks weasel and others.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:22 PM (E4rtv)

144 That is why we need to bring back manufacturing to the US regardless of what the big investors in globalism and the corporate managers want. We need to release the ingenuity of the American worker again.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)

IMHO, we don't have a choice. Demographics in China, Korea, Japan, and Europe mean products manufactured in these places (especially China and Europe) may not be able to be made there in ten to twenty years from now. Or sooner, if demographics in these places fall off a cliff faster than predicted.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:23 PM (BCwQW)

145 Although it's horrifying to think about now, that must have been fascinating to see as a kid. Of course, it was all denied by the USG as "swamp gas", I'm sure.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:20 PM (t2oSI)

Schnorflepuppy, a good number of the bigger places with the bigger problems are in the Superfund database. The site investigation reports and any subsequent cleanup work are FOIA accessible if you really want to know. Not everything has been digitized, I think.

Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:26 PM (BCwQW)

146 It is very possible, in the near future, that we will have 3d metal printing of such parts. Started in aerospace but now trickling down to almost backyard making (think I saw 60k for used past generation metal 3d printers now)

Soon, if someone can imagine it with AI help, then it can be prototype and easily duplicated. Getting that way on a lot of plastic items, reloading, as an example. All sorts of 3d printed add ons developed by someone to make the job easier. Same for jig making.

That is why we need to bring back manufacturing to the US regardless of what the big investors in globalism and the corporate managers want. We need to release the ingenuity of the American worker again.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:18 PM (E4rtv)


whig, I was just thinking along the same lines -- metal fused deposition modeling (the underlying process behind 3-D printing) already exists, which would enable one-off manufacturing without the costs of tooling up a manufacturing line.

Plus, the very idea that metal 3-D printing will cause so many wet / crapped pants among a certain crowd in the government space makes the dark parts of my soul so very happy.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:27 PM (t2oSI)

147 Schnorflepuppy, a good number of the bigger places with the bigger problems are in the Superfund database. The site investigation reports and any subsequent cleanup work are FOIA accessible if you really want to know. Not everything has been digitized, I think.
Posted by: Ed L at May 24, 2026 09:26 PM (BCwQW)


Yep, my (late) wife was fascinated by EPA brownfields for some reason, and she used to share the egregious ones with me. I've driven past the Piketon gaseous diffusion facility in Ohio, where we used to do the same uranium enrichment that we're currently endeavoring to prevent in Iran, and seen the amount of fences and gates erected around the property -- I can only imagine the levels of contamination therein.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:31 PM (t2oSI)

148 IMHO, we don't have a choice. Demographics in China, Korea, Japan, and Europe mean products manufactured in these places (especially China and Europe) may not be able to be made there in ten to twenty years from now. Or sooner, if demographics in these places fall off a cliff faster than predicted.
Posted by: Ed L
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We have to as a matter of national security and economics.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:33 PM (E4rtv)

149 Woah. Isn't salt supposed to be bad for you? And you want to make it radioactive?

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2026 09:34 PM (kU0PQ)

150 I've driven past the Piketon gaseous diffusion facility in Ohio, where we used to do the same uranium enrichment that we're currently endeavoring to prevent in Iran, and seen the amount of fences and gates erected around the property -- I can only imagine the levels of contamination therein.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:31 PM (t2oSI)



Might not be as much as you would expect. After all, uranium was scarce and expensive, and they would want to be losing as little as humanly possible.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:34 PM (8zz6B)

151 Plus, the very idea that metal 3-D printing will cause so many wet / crapped pants among a certain crowd in the government space makes the dark parts of my soul so very happy.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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And some state governments (west coasters) are already thinking about going overboard with regulations because of it.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:35 PM (E4rtv)

152 guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 09:35 PM (xcxpd)

153 Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2026 09:22 PM (5P5DO)
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Bigly eHug!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 09:37 PM (19zcA)

154 So did more shooting with my new G19 stipple job. This time I did an iron sight PSA Dagger slide.

It was not a good fit. The sights are way low and I am also shooting left. So...there were adjustments needed.

After looking at my groups (which were small groups but not on target) I switched to my G17.

We'll try a different slide next week, this time with a red dot.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 09:37 PM (xcxpd)

155 whig, I was just thinking along the same lines -- metal fused deposition modeling (the underlying process behind 3-D printing) already exists, which would enable one-off manufacturing without the costs of tooling up a manufacturing line.

Plus, the very idea that metal 3-D printing will cause so many wet / crapped pants among a certain crowd in the government space makes the dark parts of my soul so very happy.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy

I think it will also bring back small scale local machine shops to duplicate what couldn't be done previously. Being used pretty heavily now in the Suppressor business as well. Some gas baffles could not be manufactured at a good price point before despite being technically superior.

Saw something about the Chrysler building and they are using a 3 D Lidar scan of each floor and room which then feeds into a massive and complete 3d computer model of ventilation, plumbing, electrical centered on a repeatable GPS anchored measurement. Helluva 3D guide for old buildings that have untold layers of being fixed, redesigned, etc without being in the formal plans.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)

156 Firearms are one of the few things that I actually prefer to buy used. Older hand tools before Chinesium became common are another.

Triggers are part of wearing in surfaces but on semi autos, the slides on the older metal framed and metal slides, etc. also get smoother with use.

You can use tools and abrasives to speed it up but simply using them works better with less risk for most people.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:01 PM (E4rtv)

#Wisdom

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 09:40 PM (xcxpd)

157 Can 3D metal printing make parts as strong as heat-treated steel? I seem to remember a lot of concern about MIM (?) components in revolvers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:42 PM (8zz6B)

158 I think it will also bring back small scale local machine shops to duplicate what couldn't be done previously. Being used pretty heavily now in the Suppressor business as well. Some gas baffles could not be manufactured at a good price point before despite being technically superior.

Saw something about the Chrysler building and they are using a 3 D Lidar scan of each floor and room which then feeds into a massive and complete 3d computer model of ventilation, plumbing, electrical centered on a repeatable GPS anchored measurement. Helluva 3D guide for old buildings that have untold layers of being fixed, redesigned, etc without being in the formal plans.
Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:40 PM (E4rtv)


I started crawling down the metal 3-D printing rabbit hole, and found something called the Scrap 1 which is supposed to ship next summer (yeah, right, heard that before) at a <$10K price point. Supposed to print stainless steel, copper, and nickel. Don't know if that addresses AOP's question about heat-treated steel, but I can't imagine that's too far off.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:46 PM (t2oSI)

159 Metatron (a Sicilian) has thoughts about the DEI Odyssey
youtu.be/DzCd9entvrw

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 09:47 PM (gKWVE)

160 157 Can 3D metal printing make parts as strong as heat-treated steel? I seem to remember a lot of concern about MIM (?) components in revolvers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:42 PM (8zz6B)


Howdy, sir. My sympathies on the roofing job.

On another tangent, are you available to travel to Ohio for a similar job? Asking for a friend ...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:47 PM (t2oSI)

161 Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 09:48 PM (Wnv9h)

162 157 Can 3D metal printing make parts as strong as heat-treated steel? I seem to remember a lot of concern about MIM (?) components in revolvers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Smith and Wesson was an early adopter. They had problems in the late 90's but figured out the process after an uneven start. Same as Bill Ruger figured out using modern casting techniques and materials to build his brand's rep as unbreakable. Everyone in gun manufacturing up to Bill Ruger thought cast was inferior to forged. Bill proved them wrong.

We are now using these 3d printing techniques to make turbines for jet engines, rocket parts, etc. and the interior baffles of firearm suppressors. So I do think additive versus machining manufacturing is here to stay. And modern computers make it possible along with lasers, measuring by scans, etc.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:48 PM (E4rtv)

163 I started crawling down the metal 3-D printing rabbit hole, and found something called the Scrap 1 which is supposed to ship next summer (yeah, right, heard that before) at a
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:46 PM (t2oSI)

I wonder if you could do 3D electroplating in a tank of electrolyte, with the anode being a hair-fine wire of the metal to be plated being extruded through a nozzle that moves about controled by the program?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:50 PM (8zz6B)

164 I started crawling down the metal 3-D printing rabbit hole, and found something called the Scrap 1 which is supposed to ship next summer (yeah, right, heard that before) at a
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)

That is the interesting thing about technology, we see bits and pieces and then suddenly it becomes the norm. GPS was that way. Cellphones another. Space X is doing that for space travel. Takes a lot of behind the scenes development then Whoosh.

And that is how a modern US can avoid the decline and fall of empires. Widely disseminated tooling, knowledge, and abilities of workers.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:51 PM (E4rtv)

165 On another tangent, are you available to travel to Ohio for a similar job? Asking for a friend ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:47 PM (t2oSI)

Sorry. Just had my pants pressed, and I'm overdue for a root canal in Alberta.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (8zz6B)

166
150 I've driven past the Piketon gaseous diffusion facility in Ohio, where we used to do the same uranium enrichment that we're currently endeavoring to prevent in Iran, and seen the amount of fences and gates erected around the property -- I can only imagine the levels of contamination therein.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:31 PM

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Uranium is not highly radioactive, and radioactivity is not created by enrichment. Any radioactive contamination is probably fairly low level. There may have been toxic chemicals used, and uranium itself is a toxic heavy metal kind of like lead, but it's not like radioactivity from nuclear reactors.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (iTNuP)

167 Sorry. Just had my pants pressed, and I'm overdue for a root canal in Alberta.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (8zz6B)


Can't blame a guy for trying, can you?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:53 PM (t2oSI)

168 I have a friend who maybe 15 years ago now had an idea of using additive manufacturing for repairing obsolete aircraft parts. He and I went to the big CAF air show in Midland to bounce the idea off people actually involved in the industry. Literally no one was even the least bit interested. They would rather continue to pay increasing costs for decreasing supplies of parts than even consider a new process.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 09:54 PM (vTZFs)

169 167 Sorry. Just had my pants pressed, and I'm overdue for a root canal in Alberta.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 09:52 PM (8zz6B)

Can't blame a guy for trying, can you?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:53 PM (t2oSI)


Uh, I mean, a friend ... 😂

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 09:54 PM (t2oSI)

170 I wonder if you could do 3D electroplating in a tank of electrolyte, with the anode being a hair-fine wire of the metal to be plated being extruded through a nozzle that moves about controled by the program?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Dunno anyone doing that. I do think Electron Beam Physical Vapor Deposition (EB-PVD deposits on parts like slides are somewhat similar to what you describe. Gives almost a diamond like hardness and smoothness to parts.

FWIW, I remembered it as EVP and did a quick check finding my memory faulty. PVD is the term and EB is the specific technique used on gun parts by some companies now.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:54 PM (E4rtv)

171 I have a friend who maybe 15 years ago now had an idea of using additive manufacturing for repairing obsolete aircraft parts. He and I went to the big CAF air show in Midland to bounce the idea off people actually involved in the industry. Literally no one was even the least bit interested. They would rather continue to pay increasing costs for decreasing supplies of parts than even consider a new process.
Posted by: Oddbob

Could be a regulatory issue. FAA gets pretty crabby about parts and Boeing using Chinesium bolts caused a massive standdown to remove those. I think they found out about it when investigating the door blew out in flight.

Posted by: whig at May 24, 2026 09:57 PM (E4rtv)

172 Thank you Weasel.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 09:57 PM (oyck1)

173 Could be a regulatory issue.

That is absolutely true and was one objection we heard. But either someone is going to have to take on the process or the planes will eventually stop flying.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 09:59 PM (vTZFs)

174 ONT nood.

Thanks, Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 24, 2026 10:01 PM (t2oSI)

175 Thanks for the info on a .22 (or whatever) for my wife. I'll be reviewing some of the suggestions but we're really set on .22. I've got a significant investment in that caliber and I'm not really interested in others.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 10:02 PM (jehhT)

176 Civil Defense After The Bomb! - Thirty seconds into the music of the opening, MiladyJo across the room asks, "Is this a movie from the gun thread?" Heh. Sort-of.

Reminds me of back in the early '70s, when I was a go-fer/mailroom guy for a season at KATV Little Rock, a position from which I could wander around and observe their whole operation, in the sound room of the main production studio, there was a sizable collection of LPs of stock (royalty-free) music of various genre. Must have been there since the '50s, or maybe the '40s.

Posted by: mindful webworker - music to sell cars by at May 24, 2026 10:05 PM (0poB+)

177 There are a number of 3d printed prototypes for pistols and carbines out there, most of them are done with parts kits or home made barrels and PLA or related filament.
The big one was at one time FGC-9 which always looked fun. The files are out there in distribution, they are also videos on Odysee , as well as reviews, and discussion on manufacturing and improvements.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:56 PM (rbvCR)

Food Thread: You Can't Drink All Day If You Don't Start In The Morning!

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Why is it that we suspend all of our eating and drinking rules when in airports?

That's a glass of champagne and a Bloody Mary at 6:45AM.

While I will occasionally have a Bloody Mary, and I try to drink champagne as much as I can, I never combine the two...except when flying. And the crap food in airports, especially the jumped-up steamtable stuff in the airport lounges? Yeah...I'll eat that too, and have seconds!

If you look closely at the glass of champagne, or simply the blurred background, you will see what sane people drink at that hour...a cup of hot tea. But that seems so wrong to me, especially when the booze is free, and the champagne is good!

******

I wrote on Thursday about the the EU regulatory state that was designed to replace innovation and competition with regulation, and here it is in all its glory!

EU to ban Brazilian meat imports from September

An EU committee made up of experts from member states voted on Tuesday to ban imports of Brazilian meat starting 3 September due to the use of antimicrobials to stimulate animal growth.

Oh look! Experts! I'll bet they went to all the best schools!

I don't much care whether Brazil abuses the use of antibiotics to promote cattle growth. Is it a bad idea? Probably. But anything the EU does is by definition anti-competitive, so I am on Brazil's side.

Meat is very expensive in the EU. In my limited experience, it is at least double or triple what we pay here. But those experts don't want the peasants to be able to eat meat, so they limit imports and protect their own inefficient and expensive industry. That is functionally identical to the way the people were treated by the Church and by royalty...in the Middle Ages!

******

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That's a whole bone-in pork loin that was so big it wouldn't fit on my half-sheet pan for a reverse sear! So I had to cut it into two chunks, which is fine...that means double the number of end pieces! That fed 11 people with a ton of leftovers. Granted, I had some tasty and filling sides, including my world-famous Cauliflower Gratin that I supercharged with some (a Lot) bacon. And crunchy Rosemary and Garlic roasted potatoes that were delicious, and got gobbled up before I could get a second helping.

It is possible, even in these post-Biden-inflation times, to feed a bunch of people tasty, wholesome food without breaking the bank. That pork roast was about 13 pounds, and while not on sale, it was reasonably priced for our area. All the other stuff was not particularly pricey, and If I don't count the booze (damn, they drank a lot!), it was probably less per person than my everyday meals!

And it was a rollicking good time to boot!

******

Vegetables? Yuck!

Except when cooked correctly, with flavor rather than some nebulous concept of healthful eating in mind.

I bought a head of broccoli, peeled the stem as much as I could, then sliced it into 1" steaks....whatever the hell a broccoli steak is. Then I microwaved them with a bit of water, just to soften them a bit. three minutes, covered.

The next step is going to disturb you healthful eating types, so...piss off. I brushed them with a liberal amount of melted butter, salted them, and grilled them on high heat until they got a bit toasty and charred.

They were great! Easy, delicious, and I didn't feel like I was being punished.

******

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I love them, but I have had more than my share of woody, overcooked stalks, which is particularly galling because I cooked a fair number of them!

Part of that is the massively long supply chain for asparagus, which limits my access to really fresh stuff. The other is my fixation on roasting them in very high heat. It makes sense to me, but as Richard Feynman famously said:

It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.

And my theory was wrong. So I finally gave up on it and started roasting asparagus at 350 degrees, bathed in butter and with a pinch of salt, and cooked just until tender.

And what do you know! They taste great that way!

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It sounds better in French: Champignons à la Savoyarde, but Creamy Mushrooms on Toast tastes just as good in English. He uses Morels, which are grand! And tough to find. And expensive. But any mushroom will do. Just don't use sour cream...heavy cream makes a better dish!
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The garlic is doing well! I know all of you are worried, but it is tall and green and healthy! I even fertilized them! And if they survive the deer and squirrel apocalypse, and actually grow into something edible, I will be in garlic heaven! In case it doesn't, send all of your excellent home-grown garlic to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.

Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.

The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM




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1 Food fight

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:02 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Cauliflower pusher

Posted by: bluebell at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (HqH5I)

3 Speaking of Bourbon, it might be Scotch time soon

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (Ia/+0)

4 Cheesesteak a bit later

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:05 PM (Ia/+0)

5 "It is possible, even in these post-Biden-inflation times, to feed a bunch of people tasty, wholesome food without breaking the bank. That pork roast was about 13 pounds, and while not on sale, it was reasonably priced for our area. All the other stuff was not particularly pricey, and If I don't count the booze (damn, they drank a lot!), it was probably less per person than my everyday meals!"

It is possible...but not with anything beef. Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:06 PM (tOcjL)

6 and the champagne is good!

Did you inquire if it was hand riddled?

The best champagne is hand riddled.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:12 PM (0sNs1)

7 Speaking of Bourbon, it might be Scotch time soon
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM


Apparently you are a man who is willing to forego the 'e' in whiskey. Sad!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (0sNs1)

8 This week, one of our dinners was the $28 challenge.

I took an old 2.8 pound beef chunk out of my freezer (I'd tell you what type, but the tag had worn off b/c of the 50% off sticker - it was $4.99/lb out the door - it had the thinnest beef cap and no real fat through the meat, if that helps someone identify).

I sliced it against the grain into thin, fajita like pieces (that took me 30 minutes of effort) and eventually pan-seared them rapidly in a little oil with salt, pepper, and garlic powder.

They became 10 dinner sandwich wraps, plus 3 leftover for the next day. $2 Aldi tortillas, $2 whole head green lettuce, $2.50 container Aldi's chimchurri, 50 cents worth of Amazon plum tomatoes, and $5 deli pickled onion container (the splurge). $12 for the toppings, about $14 for the beef...14 sandwiches (if you include the Aldi's white bread kids used after tortillas were gone). $26 all in, but even if beef was full price, it would be $40 for 14...not bad.

PS - This fed 8 people worth...5 one day and 3 the next. Yes, teen boys eat 2 wraps.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (tOcjL)

9 And I can't type - 13, not 14, b/c I can add, but not hit the right button!

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:14 PM (tOcjL)

10 Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:06 PM


No one here is into beating the meat.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:14 PM (0sNs1)

11 Why is it that we suspend all of our eating and drinking rules when in airports?



No idea. I haven't flown since 2010.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (2PamV)

12 At this moment I'm chowing down on a new way of cooking pinto beans (I'm sure someone else has done this before, but it's new to me).

I put a pot of beans to soak last night, as usual, but when I got up to cook them this morning I recalled that I had a leftover seasoned pork chop in the fridge.

Rather than going with the standard ham or bacon, I chopped up the chop (which sounds redundant) and tossed that in, bone and all.

When they were done I added some more salt and pepper to taste.

10/10. Will do this again.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (IG3/x)

13
And my theory was wrong. So I finally gave up on it and started roasting asparagus at 350 degrees, bathed in butter and with a pinch of salt, and cooked just until tender.
Posted by: CBD

Why not sous vide them until tender?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:16 PM (oyck1)

14 They need meat runners to smuggle beef into Europe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (Cqx++)

15 Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star.
Posted by: Nova Local


Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (2PamV)

16 Roasting asparagus in pecan oil is my go to.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2026 04:18 PM (5P5DO)

17 15 Pork is the cheapest meat to use if you want to have meat as the star.
Posted by: Nova Local


Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (2PamV)

I'm sick, so pork and apples in some way seems like comfort food that's doable to me...weather also sucks, so a dish for cold, wet weather seems nice...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:19 PM (tOcjL)

18 The last time I flew out of DFW, the bar was empty and had one of those red velvet ropes across the doorway. It was about 0600 when we got there. Granted that was about ten years ago though.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:19 PM (0N4FZ)

19 Watching Great Escape now
Cheers

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:19 PM (Ia/+0)

20 10/10. Will do this again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (IG3/x)

Sounds good to me!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 04:20 PM (h7ZuX)

21 You Can't Drink All Day If You Don't Start In The Morning!

Words to live by.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 04:20 PM (YZcg9)

22 Pork and (especially) chicken tend to have way faster price fluctuations (in both directions) than beef.

Chickens are ready in 2-6 months (depending on breed and purpose).

Pork is 5-7 months.

Beef is more like two years.

If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (IG3/x)

23 I'm sick, so pork and apples in some way seems like comfort food that's doable to me...weather also sucks, so a dish for cold, wet weather seems nice...
Posted by: Nova Local


I'm thinking loin chops, apple sauce & maybe mashed potatoes.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (2PamV)

24 The best champagne is hand riddled.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 04:12 PM (0sNs1)

Was a time when one could get hand riddled in Times Square for about $15. Probably $20 now to keep up with surrounding towns...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (nbLIj)

25 Beef is more like two years.

If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


$84 & change for a brisket at the local high dollar grocery store. NFW.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (2PamV)

26 Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:17 PM (2PamV)
===

One of my relations received a quantity of peaches and asked for suggestions. Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney.

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (rj6Yv)

27 I have a nice Customer Service story to share:

A couple weeks ago I purchased some Turkey Hill Black Cherry Ice Cream (actually frozen dairy dessert using whole milk and not cream). Unfortunately, they likely had a mixing issue when it was manufactured, and I ended up with 1.44 quarts of vanilla with, maybe, 10 total pieces of black cherry.

I decided to inform them...with no expectations. So, I took about two minutes and filled out a feedback entry online. A week later I got a phone call from their CS department. A very nice woman proceeded to apologize, thank me for the feedback, and asked me where I usually purchased their product. With a hint of mirth she told me to watch my mail.

Thursday I received 5 coupons for five 1.44 quart containers of Turkey Hill ice cream of my choice from the local gocery story I frequent. THAT is customer service.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (dIske)

28 Since I'm still sick (sense of smell - about gone), I'm not relying on my taste buds or energy for cooking, so it's trying Aldi's honey tempura chicken with garlic air fried green beans (could roast, but I'm air-frying the chicken, and only have one oven), blueberries/raspberries/red grapes and Italian bread to sop it up.

I won't give my opinion b/c yes, this was picked as more comfort food...seems I can taste sweet the best right now, so might as well try something that relies on it. But I also haven't had much appetite the last few days, and I will eat this...so thanks Aldi's for having the new product...

This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (tOcjL)

29 I really don't like champagne, love red wines

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:24 PM (Ia/+0)

30 23 I'm sick, so pork and apples in some way seems like comfort food that's doable to me...weather also sucks, so a dish for cold, wet weather seems nice...
Posted by: Nova Local


I'm thinking loin chops, apple sauce & maybe mashed potatoes.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (2PamV)

Sounds very good!

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:24 PM (tOcjL)

31
I'm starting to do a lot of caregiving for an elderly relative. Rule 1: We're not buying any more food! We're eating down the inventory. This pantry is ridiculous. Plus three fridges in the house! Made a ton of meat sauce yesterday. Today, probably some kind of banana cake. I only like to make one Thing a day.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (n7rxJ)

32 One of my relations received a quantity of peaches and asked for suggestions. Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney.
Posted by: mrp


Doesn't sound bad at all. I've made pork loin with cherry jelly & one with raspberry jam.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (2PamV)

33 We found AOP and his Canuk friend were fixing AOP's roof yesterday, I mixed up some BBQ sauce the Better half cooked wings. Wings and beer good, better with friends!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (oyck1)

34
g'afternoon, 'rons

my latest culinary success was smoking a rack of pork ribs in the Weber kettle grill

nothing fancy, it was more of a "proof of concept" exercise: two pack of ribs from Sam's; salt, pepper, garlic & onion powders on the meat

did the "snake" method in the Weber and it worked great

three and a half hours in the box, sauced and wrapped in foil, 90 minutes wrapped, then finished for 30 minutes unwrapped

probably should have left it in to finish another twenty minutes or so, but we were STARVING

need to work on temperature control a bit, but was very pleased overall

tomorrow, my son is going to smoke the other rack...the pressure is on

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 24, 2026 04:26 PM (AMvSw)

35 DJT is increasing beef imports from south of the border and he's relaxing restrictions on wolf "management" stateside. Someone mentioned last week that beef cows were at a premium. I'm thinking beef prices will be coming down hard sooner than people think.

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:26 PM (rj6Yv)

36 31
I'm starting to do a lot of caregiving for an elderly relative. Rule 1: We're not buying any more food! We're eating down the inventory. This pantry is ridiculous. Plus three fridges in the house! Made a ton of meat sauce yesterday. Today, probably some kind of banana cake. I only like to make one Thing a day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (n7rxJ)

You may need to toss a lot, depending when you get to the back of shelves (speaking from experience)...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (tOcjL)

37 My guess knowing where you bought it( obviously the retail seller has no issue in this( might track down its background of when, where it was made.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (Ia/+0)

38 This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...

Posted by: Nova Local


Not good. Not good at all.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (2PamV)

39 I have a patch of garden that does everything poorly, so I gave up and planted potatoes, which did poorly. So I planted garlic, which did poorly, and then I planted the "seeds" from the tops, and it did poorly, so I replanted all the garlic year old garlic and what I felt I could spare from the spindly harvest last year, and covered it with chips and leaves, and this year what survived is doing much better.
Next year I am going to go all in on planting horseradish instead.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (rbvCR)

40 Oh, did some filets on the grill today,..AWESOME!

But to the point of the alcohol at the top of the post:
1) LOVE a Bloody Mary to kick off a travel day.
2) Military Sunday Brunch used to feature Bloody Mary's and Mimosas (so there's your Champagne).

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at May 24, 2026 04:28 PM (7kJyR)

41 "Have a 1/3 of a boneless loin that I have to figure out what to do with for tomorrow's dinner."

Chile verde?

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at May 24, 2026 04:28 PM (FEVMW)

42 If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM


Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ)

43 > EU to ban Brazilian meat imports from September
---------
Hmmm. I've been to some pretty good Brazilian steakhouses in my day.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (jehhT)

44 I've told this story before but when I was a kid and worked in the borscht belt I would have breakfast in the staff room and the night auditor would come in and order prune juice. Then the busboy would come by and pour in a shot of vodka from a flask. He called it "Morning Thunder."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 04:30 PM (RIvkX)

45 I have chicken thighs in the fridge and about a half-cup of basil pesto (using unsalted pistachios). Thinking about the combo at the moment.

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

46 I learned how to make tender roasted asparagus in h.s. My g.f. loved it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (RIvkX)

47 Okay, I wasn't gonna review the Aldi's honey tempura chicken...but...there's way too much dang sauce. I'm looking at the chicken going into the oven and the sauce pouch, and it needs half, tops. Good thing I have 2 bags to make, b/c one sauce packet is going in my fridge as a future chicken stir fry sauce...

I have this trouble with Trader Joe's Orange chicken bags, too...heck, I have this problem if I buy pretty much any convenience protein item with a sauce. I guess it's a way to save costs and add weight.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:33 PM (tOcjL)

48
We grill asparagus weather permitting. If not we steam it and top it off with garlic butter.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 04:33 PM (3ek7K)

49 Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ)
=====

Breeding stock build up instead slaughter?

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:34 PM (rj6Yv)

50 Hmmm. I've been to some pretty good Brazilian steakhouses in my day.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


Someone might want to contact Brazil and let them know US shelves are open for EU blocked beef.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:34 PM (oyck1)

51 We went out to dinner last night, I had grouper topped with crab over risotto. It was amazing as it always is at the little local place we went. J ate all of his, and the 1/2 I didn’t eat. We also had crab claws. Tonight I am not feeling like making something huge, will probably just do sloppy joes and a few veggies as sides.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 04:34 PM (Wmg4n)

52 Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ)


Most of the beef we buy comes through 4 major companies, two of which are foreign owned, and are being investigated for price fixing, both on the consumer side, but also on the price they pay for cattle on the hoof from the ranchers.
Most ranchers and farmers are not self financed, and they will raise cattle on contract, which sucks when all the buyers offer the same price.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:35 PM (rbvCR)

53 38 This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...

Posted by: Nova Local


Not good. Not good at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (2PamV)

I thought I didn't like the 35 pts above resting heart rate from earlier in the week that I put up with for 2 days (we were 50/50 on urgent care, but no temp, so stayed home), but I could smell and taste then. Now, it's just a congestion bomb that isn't letting up (I'm on day 7 now)...kids were not hit as hard, but my spouse, who brought this home, was, so it does seem to really affect 40s+...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:36 PM (tOcjL)

54 Love a stuffed fish. Retro vibe. Like the Galloping Gourmet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 04:37 PM (RIvkX)

55 Jumbo shrimp tonight. I was craving it. Only bought it because I got my quarterly bonus. Freaking beef is outrageous.
Homegrown veggies are a delicacy. From seed to harvest is somewhat challenging at times but always worth the effort.
Good day to you all

Posted by: Billythesquid at May 24, 2026 04:37 PM (auDTc)

56 Something odd is going on with beef. Walmart just increased the price on their 5 pound 80/20 ground chuck roll from $27 to almost $33 in the last two days. That is the third price increase in less than two months. It is $7.73 a pound if you buy it in the one pound packages. That is insane.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 04:29 PM (0N4FZ)

Yes, I felt like it was a steal getting the Aldi's all beef smashburgers for $9.99 for 2lbs today. You can't buy anything beef any cheaper. I don't love smashburgers, but when kids want burgers this summer, better to have them than none...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:37 PM (tOcjL)

57 45 I have chicken thighs in the fridge and about a half-cup of basil pesto (using unsalted pistachios). Thinking about the combo at the moment.
Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

That's a good combo - certain veg that love chicken also love pesto if you need a full meal idea and are avoiding pasta...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:38 PM (tOcjL)

58 38 This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...

Posted by: Nova Local


Not good. Not good at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27

Great. I am flying to the east coast Thursday for my uncle’s funeral and my niece’s graduation party.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 04:39 PM (OoFl2)

59 I am making pork stew, pork is thin sliced and floured for frying, the rest is sauteed onions, carrots, yams and carrots. Black pepper, rosemary and bay leaves for spice.
I might do greens on the side.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:40 PM (rbvCR)

60 58 38 This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...

Posted by: Nova Local


Not good. Not good at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27

Great. I am flying to the east coast Thursday for my uncle’s funeral and my niece’s graduation party.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 04:39 PM (OoFl2)

Avoid sniffling or coughing people. Don't believe allergies excuse. You'll be fine.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (tOcjL)

61 I have a question for all the cocktail savant, gurus and aficionado. YouTube has directed me to a bartender who makes very attractive cocktails.
The thing that puzzles me is she adds two drops of saline to every cocktail, claiming it adds balance to the flavors. Sometimes she adds a drop of MSG.
Have any of you heard of this?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (wBzSI)

62 > Next year I am going to go all in on planting horseradish instead.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (rbvCR)

For the love of God, plant it in a container.

Horseradish is nearly as invasive as bamboo.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (IG3/x)

63 "You Can't Drink All Day If You Don't Start In The Morning!"

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (2Ez/1)

64 I found a small container of what turned out to be beef stew in the freezer. It was really good!

I'm working on clearing out the freezer. Spelunking turned up Trader Joe's kalua pork rolls and some Manchego bacon hors d'ouvers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 04:42 PM (kpS4V)

65 Most ranchers and farmers are not self financed, and they will raise cattle on contract, which sucks when all the buyers offer the same price.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:35 PM (rbvCR)
=====

In NC, we have state meat and poultry inspectors who grade meat and poultry products and they also check wholesale processors for sanitation and handling within the state. Pretty much what the federal inspectors do, except that sales are limited to in-state retail.

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:44 PM (rj6Yv)

66 Current beef prices make me glad that I don't care for beef. Pork is usually priced well, and on sale every two or three weeks at Kroger.

I did tuna casserole today, with some rotini I had in the cupboard, and made the cheese sauce from scratch. Poor people food suits me, apparently.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 04:45 PM (h7ZuX)

67 The Chieftain
@Chieftain_armor
4h
These are whiskey bullets. They perform two functions.
1) It is how Texans cool their drink without ice melting and diluting said drink.
2) It gets you and your family a free tour of @DublinAirport baggage transfer and screening under armed airport police supervision when you have it in checked baggage [ . . . ]


https://tinyurl.com/393t48cn

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:47 PM (rbvCR)

68 I put a pot of beans to soak last night, as usual, but when I got up to cook them this morning I recalled that I had a leftover seasoned pork chop in the fridge.

Rather than going with the standard ham or bacon, I chopped up the chop (which sounds redundant) and tossed that in, bone and all.

10/10. Will do this again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (IG3/x)

Hi.

So...

I stopped soaking beans after reading Queen Ida's preparation a few decades back. Unless you have diagnosed GI issues, the loss of flavor and, to a greater degree, color, obviates the soaking step, which has the added burden of planning ahead and taking up fridge space.

Wash your beans. Cover with about 6 cups of water and add a diced onion. Do not salt the water. Bring to a boil, add olive oil or (better) bacon fat. Simmer for at least an hour, partially uncovered, adding water as needed to keep the beans covered. After one hour, add whatever meat you have on hand, stir well, and simmer for another hour, uncovered, adding water to achieve your desired thickness of the gravy. When the bean flattens against the slightest touch, it's done. Add salt and pepper to taste at that point...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:48 PM (nbLIj)

69 66 Current beef prices make me glad that I don't care for beef. Pork is usually priced well, and on sale every two or three weeks at Kroger.

I did tuna casserole today, with some rotini I had in the cupboard, and made the cheese sauce from scratch. Poor people food suits me, apparently.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 04:45 PM (h7ZuX)

If I didn't need the iron, I'd be avoiding buying beef. As it is, if I see something beef on sale, and I think I can find some use for it (like the chunk above), I buy it and figure it out later in this price environment. Aka if it's $5 or under, it's bought - only exception is it must be 80 or better ground beef b/c with no gallbladder, I can't handle 73, no matter how I use it...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:49 PM (tOcjL)

70 Enjoying a couple of homemade bacon cheeseburgers right now.

Sometimes that just hits the spot.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 24, 2026 04:50 PM (gnNyN)

71 Horseradish is nearly as invasive as bamboo.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:41 PM (IG3/x)


If you till, yes it is very invasive because it comes up from root fragments. I am probably going to turn that section into lawn so I can mow it, or maybe put rhubarb there, either way I don't much care.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:50 PM (rbvCR)

72 45 I have chicken thighs in the fridge and about a half-cup of basil pesto (using unsalted pistachios). Thinking about the combo at the moment.
Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

That's a good combo - certain veg that love chicken also love pesto if you need a full meal idea and are avoiding pasta...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:38 PM (tOcjL)
===

Yeah. The first half-cup of the pesto went with pasta and diced pancetta. Not bad, but I'm pasta-ed out at the moment

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:50 PM (rj6Yv)

73 I'm starting to do a lot of caregiving for an elderly relative. Rule 1: We're not buying any more food! We're eating down the inventory. This pantry is ridiculous. Plus three fridges in the house! Made a ton of meat sauce yesterday. Today, probably some kind of banana cake. I only like to make one Thing a day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 04:25 PM (n7rxJ)
Elderly don't tend to get enough veggies. I used to make a dozen dinners for the MIL: three different dinners which each made four servings featuring a meat main, a veggie, and a small piece of pie, cookies, or cake for dessert. Would spend one afternoon a month making them up, froze them and stacked them in her freezer. The DH would then buy her ready-made salads and fruit to have in the house. Each frozen dinner was good for two meals for her. This worked well up until the point where she couldn't remember how to work a microwave due to advancing dementia.

Posted by: tankascribe at May 24, 2026 04:51 PM (NtoJk)

74
This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...
Posted by: Nova Local


What virus?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (Cqx++)

75 74
This virus on the east coast is NO Joke. I mean, the news this week should tell you, but if not, I am...
Posted by: Nova Local

What virus?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (Cqx++)

The sucky one...no name b/c it isn't a flu or Covid...it's just sucky...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (tOcjL)

76 >>One of my relations received a quantity of peaches and asked for suggestions. Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney.


Peach butter: https://tinyurl.com/9h37s8em
Peach clafoutis: https://tinyurl.com/m7kbwxh2

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 04:53 PM (X8xt3)

77 Some states have ivermectin over the counter now. Here's something we are not told -- ivermectin works for a range of respiratory viruses, both as treatment and prophylactic. Not all, but it's impractical to identify exactly what bug a sick person has. We have found that ivermectin helps at least half the time and cuts the length of the sickness and the severity of the symptoms by about 2/3. Plus, it's safer than acetaminophen. I end up taking one dose about every two months during cold/flu season. It seems to keep me pretty well.

What works for us 100% of the time to prevent respiratory viruses is visiting a sauna 2-3 times per week. I'm talking a traditional sauna with the heater making the air temperature at least 185°, not those infrared saunas. But for some reason, saunas do not appear to be very popular in the mid-south. Heh.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 04:54 PM (FMtrg)

78 But for some reason, saunas do not appear to be very popular in the mid-south. Heh.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 04:54 PM (FMtrg)
==

We call our saunas "July".

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:56 PM (rj6Yv)

79 I make peach jam. I used to make peach jam from the chewed up, browned and bruised peaches while I was canning peaches, but then I realized I liked peach jam much more than I liked canning peaches.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:56 PM (rbvCR)

80 > Unless you have diagnosed GI issues, the loss of flavor and, to a greater degree, color, obviates the soaking step, which has the added burden of planning ahead and taking up fridge space.


Nope. Not the same. I've tried all the various "quick" methods, but none of them come out as good as properly-soaked beans.


I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM (IG3/x)

81 One thing I do have to report on the spouse's Kashi Go experiment.

He tried the Honey Almond 10+10 flavor. It was wildly better than the 12+12 leaves and twigs, but still has not beaten the initial peanut butter 10+10. In fact peanut butter is still in the lead to such an extent that the spouse realized I didn't like it and took my open box to work before he took the unopened chocolate for trying. So, it's gonna eventually take a lot of chocolate to beat PB.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 05:00 PM (tOcjL)

82 I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgi


Hard to get a good fermentation going on in the fridge.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 05:00 PM (/lPRQ)

83 Tousi going live on EweTube RE: Failed Iran Talks

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 05:00 PM (/lPRQ)

84 Asparagus: I cut off the woody bits then steam for 10ish minutes before roasting in butter and garlic. S&P to taste and maybe a dusting of grated parmesan and voila: my go to veg side for big groups.

Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:03 PM (GYx3d)

85 I don't soak beans before cooking. I make sure they're washed, and then I cook them allllll day or night in the crock pot.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 05:03 PM (h7ZuX)

86 Tried last week’s recipe, chicken with cornbread or cornbread with chicken, whatever it was, meh! I prefer fried chicken with a side of cornbread.
Local supermarket had gigantic ribeyes on sale for 16.99/lb. Did them on the pellet grill and they were fabulous. May have to go back and purchase a few more. Right now it’s time for a nap.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 24, 2026 05:04 PM (2NHgQ)

87 These are whiskey bullets. They perform two functions.
1) It is how Texans cool their drink without ice melting and diluting said drink.
2) It gets you and your family a free tour of @DublinAirport baggage transfer and screening under armed airport police supervision when you have it in checked baggage [ . . . ]


https://tinyurl.com/393t48cn
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:47 PM (rbvCR)

I have those. They're good for keeping a couple of drinks cool, but you'll need multiple "magazines" for additional rounds. And I've had corkscrews taken from me at airports, so can only imagine the hilarity that would ensue if TSA found THOSE in my carry on...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:04 PM (nbLIj)

88 "There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Agreed.

Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:05 PM (GYx3d)

89 Next year I am going to go all in on planting horseradish instead.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (rbvCR)
__________________________

Now you're taking my language. I grow horseradish and have learned a few things. I've found that the best way to keep the spread under control is to make a simple raised platform above the rest of the garden. I used old railroad ties to create a raised patch.

You'll want constant sun on them, and the separated platform allows you to keep the soil damp (but not saturated).

Homegrown horseradish is about 5x stronger than store bought. You can control the strength a bit using vineagar...but trust me, fresh horseradish recently grated is going to open your sinuses all the way to the back of your head. IT'S AWESOME.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 05:07 PM (dIske)

90 Why not sous vide them until tender?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 04:16 PM (oyck1)


You are probably poking fun at me, but that is a good idea!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:08 PM (iERP6)

91 Just finished rosemary garlic chicken with lemon, potatoes and steamed broccoli for son and spouse. I wasn't really hungry so I had leftovers from after church where we had raspberries, cherries and whipped cream. and goat cheese wrapped in cranberries with crackers.🙂 It went along with the red color for Pentecost.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2026 05:09 PM (OYsYV)

92 Mine was a pork loin with a peach chutney.

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 04:23 PM (rj6Yv)


Classic!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:10 PM (iERP6)

93 Unless you have diagnosed GI issues, the loss of flavor and, to a greater degree, color, obviates the soaking step, which has the added burden of planning ahead and taking up fridge space.


Nope. Not the same. I've tried all the various "quick" methods, but none of them come out as good as properly-soaked beans.


I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM


Agree. I have tried all sorts of quick soak or no soak cooking methods for pinto beans and none of them give me the texture I get with soaking them overnight for at least 8 hours.


I am making pinto beans for tomorrow's BBQ lunch at the VFW for memorial day. I started soaking them this morning and I will put them in the crack pot at 8 tonight to cook on low. They will be perfect by noon tomorrow.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (0N4FZ)

94
I used to make peach jam from the chewed up, browned and bruised peaches while I was canning peaches, but then I realized I liked peach jam much more than I liked canning peaches.
Posted by: Kindltot


It is good to learn, no matter what age you are. I'll bet that you are happy with this new arrangement.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (s9VOe)

95 Kids love this dang chicken, as does spouse...everyone agrees that saving one of the 2 pouches was the right call...heck, I would have used even less sauce, but wasn't gonna save the open sauce bag.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 05:13 PM (tOcjL)

96 Food!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 05:14 PM (Wnv9h)

97 This weekend, I started cooking up a package of Chuckwagon 'ends and pieces' bacon. It's exactly what it sounds like; randomly-sized bits of bacon that were trimmed off the edges so the packaged bacon looked nice and square. Tastes, fine, but a little hard to prepare. It doesn't come out of the package in clean strips (all the pieces are intertwined and you've got to pull it apart) and it's a little hard to gauge how much constitutes a meal. Again, you can't count the strips, you just have to guess how much bacon is in the pile in the pan.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (3v7ra)

98 did the "snake" method in the Weber

Eh?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (FPdhZ)

99 I'm not sure what you mean by "fridge space". I just put them in the pot and put it on the top of the fridge or a cabinet. There's no reason to refrigerate them while soaking.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM (IG3/x)

Been a while since I've soaked them, so can't recall if I left them out on the counter or not. 'Preciate the feedback..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (nbLIj)

100



Daily Mail says America's greatest sex secret place is Wyoming.

Maybe the women like cowboy food.

I live in Wyoming and I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (3ek7K)

101 trust me, fresh horseradish recently grated is going to open your sinuses all the way to the back of your head. IT'S AWESOME.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 05:07 PM (dIske)


It's incredible! Tastes great, but it's like being gassed in WWI!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:18 PM (iERP6)

102
Horseradish is much better then Sinutab.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (3ek7K)

103 beans....

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:59 PM

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (0N4FZ)


How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (iERP6)

104 "Again, you can't count the strips, you just have to guess how much bacon is in the pile in the pan."

Posted by: Castle Guy

Get a digital kitchen scale. There are cheap, but functional ones around. For bacon, I'd do 4-8 oz. per serving.

Scales have also made my baking better.

YMMV.

Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (GYx3d)

105 You may need to toss a lot, depending when you get to the back of shelves (speaking from experience)...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (tOcjL)


I have worked at a grocery store, so I actually shelve the same way at home -- an identical column all the way back, putting the newest in the rear for FIFO -- but I'm guessing most people don't.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (Sy6m/)

106 Scales have also made my baking better.

Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM (GYx3d)


Oh yes...

I find myself using my kitchen scale more and more, and not just for baking.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (iERP6)

107 I mentioned in the last thread, but we did our Memorial Day cook out for the kids and grandkids today. And, of course, it poured rain the whole time.

So I grilled burgers, dogs, sausages and corn in the garage.

The inside of my truck smells pretty good. 🤣

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (jehhT)

108 How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?

Never even heard of that. What's it supposed to do? I usually salt the water pretty heavily.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca)

109 an identical column all the way back, putting the newest in the rear for FIFO -- but I'm guessing most people don't.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (Sy6m/)


That's what I do!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (iERP6)

110 Mrs. E had a good report on her lymphoma treatment when she talked to the oncologist yesterday. I took her out to the Country Tavern in Kilgore, as promised. we even had leftovers.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (LHPAg)

111 What's it supposed to do?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca)


The baking soda will make the water mildly alkaline, so maybe it will break down the tougher outer skin.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:25 PM (iERP6)

112 I took her out to the Country Tavern in Kilgore, as promised. we even had leftovers.
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (LHPAg)

I'm glad she still has an appetite, E. Bodes well for recovery.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 05:26 PM (h7ZuX)

113 Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (LHPAg)

Yippee!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:26 PM (iERP6)

114 In re beef prices: This Sunday's steak is a prime T-bone, priced from Detwiler's at 12.99/lb. Florida ranks anywhere from 10th-13th place in terms of US beef production. I'm guessing California outranks it, but my recent experience is the regulations there are eliminating any price advantage it once had. Used to be I'd regularly get a strip or even a ribeye for 6.99/lb on a holiday weekend. Last year as I recall, they were up to 10.99, and you would rarely see prime grade. Drought, shortages, and price fixing have definitely had an impact, but beef is the one indulgence for which I will pay any price...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:26 PM (nbLIj)

115 When I was a road warrior and flying about 50k per year I always on had biz dinner on fly out days so I could have a Bloody Mary or 3 on the plane.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 05:28 PM (/+uur)

116 I find myself using my kitchen scale more and more, and not just for baking.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:22 PM (iERP6)

You could put on a few pounds and still be ok.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 05:30 PM (/+uur)

117 BEANS ...
Try using distilled water for soaking and/or cooking, especially if your tap water is hard (of the dry beans are old) ... The absence of minerals in the distilled water can help.

Posted by: Kathy at May 24, 2026 05:31 PM (zuKcR)

118 (OR the dry beans are old)

Posted by: Kathy at May 24, 2026 05:32 PM (zuKcR)

119 The only fresh or frozen beans we cook are butterbeans, all other beans are dry and get overnight soak.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:35 PM (LHPAg)

120 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:12 PM (0N4FZ)

How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:20 PM


I just use kosher salt and tap water. Been getting consistent results like that for over 50 years now.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 24, 2026 05:36 PM (0N4FZ)

121
Butterbeans are delicious.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:36 PM (3ek7K)

122 How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?

Never even heard of that. What's it supposed to do? I usually salt the water pretty heavily.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca)

According to Queen Ida (her cookbook from 1990 is one of the few allowed in my kitchen), it supposedly makes the unsoaked beans easier to digest. You add it in the final minutes of cooking. Never noticed an appreciable difference, so I stopped adding it...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (nbLIj)

123 You are probably poking fun at me, but that is a good idea!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Not this time! (next time for sure!)
Take them to 186F is what I remember.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (oyck1)

124 We always weigh out pasta and rice on the kitchen scale.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:38 PM (RIvkX)

125 122 How do you feel about baking soda in the soaking water?

Never even heard of that. What's it supposed to do? I usually salt the water pretty heavily.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 05:23 PM (4Mzca)

According to Queen Ida (her cookbook from 1990 is one of the few allowed in my kitchen), it supposedly makes the unsoaked beans easier to digest. You add it in the final minutes of cooking. Never noticed an appreciable difference, so I stopped adding it...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (nbLIj)
We're all adults here. Baking soda is supposed to cut back on the indigestion/gas of your body trying to digest cellulose.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:40 PM (LHPAg)

126 World's smallest bloody mary?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (cWLG3)

127 That's what I do!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:24 PM (iERP6)

Weirdo. Why don’t you just run out like everyone else. Then scramble around for a substitute.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (YZcg9)

128 Take them to 186F is what I remember.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 05:37 PM (oyck1)


I'll try it...thanks for the tip!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:45 PM (iERP6)

129 Joe Kidd,

Detwillers is fantastic. Love those ginger snaps.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:46 PM (YZcg9)

130 Weirdo. Why don’t you just run out like everyone else. Then scramble around for a substitute.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (YZcg9)


A place for everything, and everything in its place!

That's an old sailing saying, but it applies to cooking too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:46 PM (iERP6)

131 Great news, Eromero! I've been praying for you two.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 05:47 PM (FMtrg)

132 Detwillers is fantastic. Love those ginger snaps.
Posted by: Pete Bog

You know who else has good ginger snaps? Trader Joe's. Their triple ginger snaps are delish.

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (lJ0H4)

133 Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:38 PM (RIvkX)

I read your comment on the Kristoff essay. I understand your point, but I think the NYT timed that article, and Kristoff was their willing stooge.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (iERP6)

134 Weirdo. Why don’t you just run out like everyone else. Then scramble around for a substitute.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:42 PM (YZcg9)

Was making a blueberry crisp when I realized I didn't put the butter out to soften. I substituted mayonnaise. No one noticed, and I still go back and forth to see if there's any difference..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (nbLIj)

135 Tonight is Chicken in Plum Sauce starting with Chicken Egg Drop soup,

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:50 PM (RIvkX)

136 Thursday I received 5 coupons for five 1.44 quart containers of Turkey Hill ice cream of my choice from the local gocery story I frequent. THAT is customer service.
Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026

And you comnenting here makes it totally worth their effort.
Win - win.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 05:50 PM (sl73Y)

137 Four Seasons it must be true.

https://tinyurl.com/yzdsd2t9

I’ll point this out to Mrs Bog.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:51 PM (YZcg9)

138 I read your comment on the Kristoff essay. I understand your point, but I think the NYT timed that article, and Kristoff was their willing stooge.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 05:49 PM (iERP6)
===
Do not disagree.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 05:51 PM (RIvkX)

139
Pete Bog,

Lol. It's one of the stupidest things I've read.

It must be around the Jackson Hole area where the beautiful people go.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:54 PM (3ek7K)

140 Posted by: Eromero

Great news!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 05:55 PM (oyck1)

141 Vegetables…Yuck!

Funny how when you mature, your tastes change. In my youth, I hated spinach, broccoli, and asparagus. Loved carrots, but it’s the exact opposite now.Where I used to live, there were acres and acres of asparagus fields. You could hit the packing house in Feb or March and buy a flat of “seconds”. Like 6 bucks for 10 pounds… quality spears, but just not the most cosmetically perfect. Didn’t care, field fresh, and had plenty to give away.
Now, it’s all Walnut trees. Sad.

Posted by: Gunslinger at May 24, 2026 05:55 PM (HZfH/)

142 We tried something new this week: golden milk. I bought the spice mixture from a cute little downtown store and I mix it with coconut oil, honey, and raw goat milk.

It's quite good -- makes you feel like you're drinking something consequential. I got it for the anti-inflammatory properties.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 05:56 PM (FMtrg)

143 Lol. It's one of the stupidest things I've read.

It must be around the Jackson Hole area where the beautiful people go.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:54 PM (3ek7K)

You mean there's more to Wyoming than just Jackson Hole? I had no idea.

Posted by: Snooty Bi-Coastal Journalist at May 24, 2026 05:57 PM (Apzx6)

144 Detwillers is fantastic. Love those ginger snaps.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 05:46 PM (YZcg9)

I'm partial to the Hudsonville ice cream. Little gets about four servings from the 48 oz carton of cookies n cream...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 05:58 PM (nbLIj)

145 Since I don’t fly anymore I need another excuse. Oh, I know, my phone is set to always say it’s after 5. It was easier when all I had to do is not wind my wrist watch.

Posted by: epador at May 24, 2026 05:59 PM (k8P87)

146 Be sure to read my next article: "How to get laid in Wyoming using This One Weird Trick!"

Posted by: Snooty Bi-Coastal Journalist at May 24, 2026 05:59 PM (Apzx6)

147
Don't come to Wyoming. There are dangerous animals here and some have guns.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:01 PM (3ek7K)

148 Per Tousi, the "deal" with Iran that had everybody up in arms about this morning has collapsed.

We now return to our regular gluttonous programing.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 06:01 PM (Apzx6)

149 You mean there's more to Wyoming than just Jackson Hole? I had no idea.
Posted by: Snooty Bi-Coastal Journalist at May 24, 2026 05:57 PM (Apzx6)

No there’s not. Just sagebrush and antelope. Avoid it at all costs.

I’m afraid Wyoming is being “discovered”.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (YZcg9)

150 I cut asparagus into 1 inch pieces, then toss it into a skillet with sesame seed oil and soy sauce. Cook on low so the asparagus doesn't get soft and soggy. Recipe came from a Chinese cookbook.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (DK5Sh)

151 If the farmers have also sold off a lot of breeding stock, you could be looking at 3 years before a beef shortage starts to be alleviated.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 04:21 PM (IG3/x)

FWIW, passing through Wyhoming, The OK panhandle, and W. Texas, there seemed to be plenty of cattle in the feedlots. You can really appreciate the aroma when driving in a convertible.

Just got back from a drive out to Tortilla Flat. Had a very expensive margarita in the saloon there. Had to take a nap upn returning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 06:04 PM (8zz6B)

152 "I'm ready for my close-up Mr DeMille!"

Posted by: Wyoming at May 24, 2026 06:04 PM (RIvkX)

153 I’m afraid Wyoming is being “discovered”.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (YZcg9)

My advice, if you see a car with out-of-state plates on it, go all "The Hills Have Eyes" on it before it's too late.

Posted by: A Native Coloradan at May 24, 2026 06:05 PM (Apzx6)

154
Idiots come dressed up in the brand spanking new cowboy clothing.

LOL

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:06 PM (3ek7K)

155 driving in a convertible.

Just got back from a drive out to Tortilla Flat.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

And what a pretty convertible it is!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 06:06 PM (oyck1)

156 Eromero, great news. Best to Mrs. E.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:07 PM (YZcg9)

157 I was in Wyoming in June and it snowed. No thanks.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 06:07 PM (RIvkX)

158 Idiots come dressed up in the brand spanking new cowboy clothing.

LOL

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:06 PM (3ek7K)

Do ass-less chaps count as cowboy clothing? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: A Relocating Californian at May 24, 2026 06:07 PM (Apzx6)

159 Not good. Not good at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (2PamV)

I got the No Row virus once. had to buy an outboard motor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 06:08 PM (8zz6B)

160
Do ass-less chaps count as cowboy clothing? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: A Relocating Californian

The last sec of trans would like to help pack your sh*t...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 06:09 PM (oyck1)

161 A friend sent me a trio of wines a few days ago. The box said “do not deliver to an intoxicated person.” It was a good thing I wasn’t day drinking then!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 24, 2026 06:09 PM (kYmoU)

162 And you comnenting here makes it totally worth their effort.
Win - win.
Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 05:50 PM (sl73Y)
_________________

I wrote a thank you letter complimenting them on their priorities and naming the customer service rep. by name. Good deeds shall be rewarded.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 06:09 PM (dIske)

163

Let it all hang out..

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:10 PM (3ek7K)

164 Garrett's popcorn at O'Hare and Midway is the only thing that will break my nutrition guidelines. And it's not a pretty sight when I dig in.

Posted by: SS at May 24, 2026 06:12 PM (52U6V)

165 I’m afraid Wyoming is being “discovered”.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:02 PM (YZcg9)

This.

My daddy grew up on a farm in Laramie. His grandfather was a "gentleman farmer," which meant my daddy and his daddy did all the work. WWII kinda ruined all that, and they ended up moving to Seattle, but the old barn is still there, behind the old house, which is now pretty much in town. And the gopher house, which my grandpa built after he came back from WWI. Neither he nor the gopher house were ever "right," and now somebody is running a horse place at the old gopher house, which for some reason they call the stone church.

We call it the gopher house because nobody will ever live there except... gophers. Lol.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 06:12 PM (DwqWV)

166 Western Washington was nice until the Californicators started moving in about 40 years ago.

We hated them back in the 80s. Knew they were no good.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (A5RD0)

167 142 We tried something new this week: golden milk. I bought the spice mixture from a cute little downtown store and I mix it with coconut oil, honey, and raw goat milk.

It's quite good -- makes you feel like you're drinking something consequential. I got it for the anti-inflammatory properties.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May

Try moon milk next. Js kiddo and mine still ask for it before bed when we are all together. I can give you the spice breakdown for golden milk, too, if you ever want to just do it on your own.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (OoFl2)

168 A saw a real cowboy once. I knew he was a real one because he had a dollop of cow shit stuck to the brim of his Stetson hat.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (Apzx6)

169 Well it did snow here last week.

There was some great dinner here last night. Friends over so we fired up the real wood fire and roasted leg of lamb with harissa and crispy skinned chicken. Duck fat crispy potatoes and spicy shrimp appetizer.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:14 PM (YZcg9)

170 It's asparagus season in Wisconsin ... so our supply chain right now is about 24 hours deep. Glory! Just about every roadside stand has it.
Woody stems, now, that's a problem still; I often discard the lowest 1/4 or so for that reason.

hey, thanks to RFKjr butter and salt are now healthy foods again!
(just like they always were ... )

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 06:16 PM (VyBeY)

171 Western Washington was nice until the Californicators started moving in about 40 years ago.

We hated them back in the 80s. Knew they were no good.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2026 06:13 PM (A5RD0)

Western Oregon says "Hold My Beer." When the California Hippies began mating with the Oregon Okies, well, lets just say it wasn't pretty.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 06:16 PM (Apzx6)

172 Daily Mail says America's greatest sex secret place is Wyoming.

Maybe the women like cowboy food.

I live in Wyoming and I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 05:15 PM (3ek7K)

So? What's the secret? Seems like once they print it...

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 06:17 PM (DwqWV)

173 Posted by: Pete Bog at May 24, 2026 06:14 PM (YZcg9)

Sounds delicious!

Lamb and fire go well together.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (iERP6)

174
tcn,

Who knows, lol.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (3ek7K)

175 I was in Wyoming in June and it snowed. No thanks.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

It snows in Australia in June.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (W5mpo)

176 A saw a real cowboy once. I knew he was a real one because he had a dollop of cow shit stuck to the brim of his Stetson hat.

A long joke, probably split across multiple posts.

A kid from the city visits a working ranch. He see a cowboy all dressed in cowboy gear and is curious.

"Why do you wear that hat?"

"My Stetson? When it's sunny, I tip it forward and it keeps the sun out of my eyes. When it's rainy, I tip it backwards and the rain runs down the back of my poncho instead of down my neck."

"Oh, that makes sense. Why do you wear that scarf?"

(1/x)

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (vTZFs)

177 I don't mind snow in June so long as it shoots back up to 65 and sunny. The only part of WYO I have spent time in is Laramie and the Snowy Range. A bit too much wind for my taste. And it is constant. But the Snowy Range is lovely.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 06:19 PM (DwqWV)

178 170 It's asparagus season in Wisconsin ... so our supply chain right now is about 24 hours deep. Glory! Just about every roadside stand has it.
Woody stems, now, that's a problem still; I often discard the lowest 1/4 or so for that reason.

I peel the woody ends

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 06:20 PM (FtULh)

179 "My kerchief? It keeps my neck from getting sunburned. If the wind is blowing, I can pull it up over my mouth and nose to keep the dust out."

"That makes sense. Why do you wear those leg things?"

"My chaps? They protect my legs when I'm riding through brush."

(2/x)

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (vTZFs)

180 our garlic is looking fantastic, well over a foot tall; I was saying to Mrs the other day that it looks like we will be harvesting scapes pretty soon ... tasty mild garlic flavor in any mix of steamed veggies.
We're also having nettle greens as a vegetable right now, still tender, very good.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (VyBeY)

181 "Makes sense. Why do you wear tennis shoes?"

"So you can tell me apart from the truck drivers."

(3/3)

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (vTZFs)

182
Visit someplace you like then move there and screw it up.

WTH is wrong with people?

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (3ek7K)

183 We get snow here I would expect we are going into a new ice age . Supposed to be mid 70s tomorrow, 80s couple days after that

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:22 PM (Ia/+0)

184
Lol Oddbob

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:22 PM (3ek7K)

185 The new roof deck panels are installed, and covered with tarpaper. Next step is shingles. Will get up at zero-dark thirty, hang as many shingles as we can before the Sun gets too high.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 06:23 PM (8zz6B)

186 Lamb and fire go well together.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM


Yes. Yes, they do.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2026 06:26 PM (Wnv9h)

187 AOP my roof life could last 5 years at least, but pondered when might be the last year I could do it.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:26 PM (Ia/+0)

188 183 We get snow here I would expect we are going into a new ice age . Supposed to be mid 70s tomorrow, 80s couple days after that
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:22 PM (Ia/+0)

We are already in the 80s. 87 next week.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 06:27 PM (OoFl2)

189 'Broccoli' translated from Italian is 'Green Death'. Carry on...

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 06:28 PM (NcvvS)

190 We be nots cook animel meet buts plant b ased protine to help e do globill warming and protect animal rites.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at May 24, 2026 06:28 PM (+nL6B)

191
Mary,

Stick your head up your ass and you won't have to deal with that fake news.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:30 PM (3ek7K)

192 182 Visit someplace you like then move there and screw it up.

WTH is wrong with people?

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:21 PM (3ek7K)


It's the old parable of the grasshopper and the ant, except worse. The Locust People can't accept that they're the problem, so once their nest is foul -- weird, how did that happen? -- they go seek out another place that is still nice.

It's just a mystery how invisible supernatural forces follow them everywhere they go, ruining every place they move to! Couldn't possibly be the consequences of their own choices, since they swear their intentions are the best. (And if you disagree, then you're just a stupid meany that hates a lot.)

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 06:31 PM (Sy6m/)

193
We don't get parasitic invaders here.

Oh no, no drive thru coffee place?
The world is going to end.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:34 PM (3ek7K)

194 Mary,

Plants have feeling too !!!
How inhuman of you to eat them !!!

I suggest you BBQ Dirt that way you are doing something to save the animals.....

Posted by: Jackson K. at May 24, 2026 06:35 PM (xl8DV)

195
We have a Subway here and one of those soda places the Mormon women started. The soda place is always empty.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (3ek7K)

196 Grilled Burgers,Fries, Jalapeño Poppers and corn on the cob on the menu for tomorrow.

And Drew Carey is officially an asshoe.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (qrzX6)

197
He's still alive?

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:41 PM (3ek7K)

198 Get a digital kitchen scale. There are cheap, but functional ones around. For bacon, I'd do 4-8 oz. per serving.

Scales have also made my baking better.

YMMV.
Posted by: RS at May 24,

Kitchen scale and measure dry stuff in grams. Makes baking and scaling recipes much easier.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 06:42 PM (sl73Y)

199 Luckily, I don't have to worry about antibiotics because I can call my neighbor and get side of organic, sustainable beef, or a whole non-GMO pig. One of the benefits of living in the boonies.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 06:45 PM (D1E+2)

200 I would love to get sled'able snow in S.F. Some of these streets would be awesome! Going south on Gough from Pac Heights you'd catch air, or down from Diamond Hts, etc.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 06:46 PM (W5mpo)

201 Huh. A thunderstorm here in SE AZ at this time of year? Interesting. Maybe this so-called Super El Nino will be good for us down here after all.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at May 24, 2026 06:51 PM (OD5vY)

202 Guns up.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 24, 2026 07:04 PM (sl73Y)

203 A bloody Mary sounds good about now. Or a bloody Maria.

It's unfortunate when your family and friends show up and drink up all of your booze, but at least I'm not driving.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 07:05 PM (D1E+2)

204 And Drew Carey is officially an asshoe.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (qrzX6)

197
He's still alive?

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 06:41 PM (3ek7K)


Yes, and after donating to Joe "Marionette" Biden in 2020, he's attacking Spencer Pratt as a fraud. His braincell must get lonely.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 07:20 PM (Sy6m/)

205 I would love to get sled'able snow in S.F. Some of these streets would be awesome! Going south on Gough from Pac Heights you'd catch air, or down from Diamond Hts, etc.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 06:46 PM (W5mpo)
====
These people can barely drive in the best of conditions.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 07:31 PM (RIvkX)

206 Was going to say something about bottled water but I forgot.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 08:49 PM (P+D9B)

First World Problems...

Polaroid2026.jpg

What the hell am I going to do with this thing? First of all, it weighs 17 pounds. Second, film was last made for it in 1977 (total guess*). Third, modern digital cameras produce superb quality photographs, and my eye for the fine points of photography does not extend to the qualitative difference between film colors and digital colors.

And all of this means nothing, because it was my wife's grandfather's camera, and we can never discard it.

This x 1,000 is why I want to burn the place down and start over!

*Ooh! I was close. The last color film was manufactured in 1977, and the last black & white film was made in 1992.

Posted by: CBD at 02:55 PM




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1 Those were the days!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (8schn)

2 Isn't that the same miniature camera model OSS used to take photos of NAZI war plans?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (/lPRQ)

3 I was on a plane, and the internet wasn't working...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh)

4
CBD,

I hope you are having a good. day.

Thank you for all you do to keep this place going.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 02:58 PM (3ek7K)

5 I was on a plane, and the internet wasn't working...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh)
-

Was it a fly-by-wire plane?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (8schn)

6 Donate it to a museum or college so she can see it without you possessing it. I mean I'd be tossing it in the trash after showing her the pic you took (so she still has the memory of it), but I'm a townhome owner, so I'm ruthless on useless stuff. No use, no use here.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (tOcjL)

7 So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (3ImbR)

8 ebay, and then use the money for steaks

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (oyck1)

9 Thanks to Hour of the Wolf for the heads-up. Willow'd:

Who was the 'journalist' that Ace said should get a hot dog stand, because he looked like he'd be really great at slinging dogs? It was a whole article of its own, with riffs like how he could probably pay for his retirement by just parking outside Brian Stelter's studio.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (Sy6m/)

10 @ScottJenningsKY
·
38m
🚨After receiving a briefing from a Senior TRUMP Administration Official on the status of the Iran negotiations (someone in the know & not just speculating), I can tell you the following:

-USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING



AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (ZxPkt)

11 So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 24, 2026 02:59 PM (3ImbR)
-

It was only a nickel less than the price in town.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (8schn)

12 Actually, that's pretty cool. I'd like to have one. I wouldn't buy it, but if I had it I'd display it on a bookshelf. I have a few old cameras I keep on my bookshelf, sort of a Man Cave thing.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (4BekB)

13 FWP:

my grocer no longer carries Family Size Keebler Sandies

all is lost...

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (ZxPkt)

14 Antiques Roadshow? We'll see you and your wife there!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (NFX2v)

15 So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger.
Posted by: IrishEi ?!


Just search the net for "Polaroid Swinger film".
Plenty out there.

Turn off 'safe-search' for best results.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (/lPRQ)

16 As said downstairs, my 1WP is I self inflicted wrecking my tailgate on mh truck. I shut it and that msde it worse as can't open it now.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:04 PM (Ia/+0)

17 CBD, I inherited 2 ancient cameras from an aunt

one like above, and the other a Box Brownie
I kept them for a while, then gave them away to a collector

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:05 PM (ZxPkt)

18 Way back in 80s, had a camera not unlike that thst instant pictures. Got film a couple times and played with it

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:05 PM (Ia/+0)

19 I bought Mom and Dad a Polaroid 440 camera and kit as a present. This was at the Danang PX where there was any number of high quality Jap cameras available. Mom and Dad wanted one of those Polaroids. I should have bought a couple cases of film.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (gm9Sb)

20 > that msde it worse as can't open it now.

Posted by: Skip
---

try a bigger hammer

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (ZxPkt)

21 -USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING

AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (ZxPkt)

--------

How are they going to move these refrigerators? How are they going to move these color TVs?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (n9eFH)

22 If you have someone who is a photographer or interested in photography, decorating with a few antique cameras on the wall is a cool idea!

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (Wmg4n)

23 USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING

AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (ZxPkt)

--------

How are they going to move these refrigerators? How are they going to move these color TVs?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 03:06 PM (n9eFH)

They can join China's Belt and Road initiative.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:07 PM (qx7Zg)

24 I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n)

25 Isn't that the same miniature camera model OSS used to take photos of NAZI war plans?
——

Ha! Ironically from my reading of the wartime spook stuff, German (or Swiss maybe) miniatures were preferred or practical for that stuff. As might be envisioned, they were hard to get for allies. One thing they came up too, was the “Microdot”or miniature documents contained in the sentence at the end of a period in an otherwise ordinary letter or document.

While it was totally illegal nobody cared too much, and the FBI and other orgs opened a lot of mail. Disappearing ink, ciphers, all sorts of stuff.

One thing that put the US at a disadvantage, considerable intelligence could be gleaned by going to any decent sized library, and subscribing to major magazines. “Aviation Leak” it was termed.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (sEgd8)

26 I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n)

Saijo isn't cutting it as a pre-washer?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:09 PM (qx7Zg)

27 Find a young(er) relative who is a camera nut and make it a gift?

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:09 PM (6wpGE)

28 Skip, is the tailgate electric open or manual? There are you tube videos that show you how to get into the tailgate from the inside panel to use an emergency manual override of the electric button to open the gate. We had to do that once on a tailgate that malfunctioned and wouldn’t open with the button on the gate nor the key fob.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 24, 2026 03:10 PM (M4pvf)

29
my grocer no longer carries Family Size Keebler Sandies

all is lost...
Posted by: Don Black


Don't despair!

https://tinyurl.com/mryxmkff

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 24, 2026 03:10 PM (oyck1)

30 -USA IS NOT GIVING IRANIANS MONEY FOR NOTHING

AND NO CHICKS FOR FREE
Posted by: Don Black
-----

Coming up to 10:45 PM in Tehran, we'll see how negotiations are going in a little while.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (pRWl6)

31 25 German cameras, binoculars, etc. were always prized for clarity in lenses. Fun fact. During the First World War, trade continued between Britain and Germany, German lenses for Brit rubber, until mid 1915.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (gm9Sb)

32 My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.

F'in Idiots!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg)

33 3 I was on a plane
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh)

I thought you were gonna say you were in the pool.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE)

34 26 I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n)

Saijo isn't cutting it as a pre-washer?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:09 PM

Ha! Saijo is actually really funny about food. I am not sure if it is because he spent the first 9 months of his life in a cage, but he won’t eat anything and everything. If you offer him something he doesn’t like, he will very gingerly take it from you, and then spit it out in a corner of the room. Almost like he doesn’t want to offend you.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (Wmg4n)

35 What you’ll quickly find, good used tailgates are proportionally expensive. And the paint won’t even match.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (sEgd8)

36 Manual opening, will try again when its not miserable outside.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:13 PM (Ia/+0)

37 33 3 I was on a plane
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh)

I thought you were gonna say you were in the pool.
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE)

Not in this weather...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 03:13 PM (tOcjL)

38 37 33 3 I was on a plane
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (c6sRh)

I thought you were gonna say you were in the pool.
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (6wpGE)

Not in this weather...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 24, 2026 03:13 PM (tOcjL)

NTTAWWT

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (6wpGE)

39 My grandfather was in the Army Air Service after WWI (he didn't finish flight school until after the armistice), and his assignment was to monitor Germany's compliance with the Treaty of Versailles, taking lots of photos to document what they were doing. I have the camera he used for that, and every camera he ever owned since. The best one is the Realist, a 3-D camera. They still make the film for that.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (+2GyC)

40 32 My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.

F'in Idiots!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg)

What do those people get charged with, do you know?

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (6wpGE)

41 FWD!!

Not used to being up during the daytime. Must try to stay awake.....zzzzzzzzz

Actually I'm fine, just a bit groggy. I'm making lists of things to do and not forget before I travel across the mighty Appalachians to my former homestead in Pennsyltucky! Thinking of visiting the Allegheny Portage Railroad National Historic Site and the Horseshoe Curve National Historic Site. Its on my route home, more or less.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:15 PM (sAmhv)

42 Deal is off! no deal !!
Lol
Our Dear Leader got an angry call from Bibi

And the GOP warhawks

He calls into ABC News in total panic

Posted by: Paul at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (1xQU5)

43 There must be some artisanal hipster film manufacturer who can make some replacement film for you.

Then you can stage a 1977 party and have everyone dress period-appropriate for a photo shoot. A little weed, a little wine...

Nothing Bob Crane-y, mind you.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (kpS4V)

44 My kid got a new Polaroid for Xmas. She loves it. She is fascinated by old tech.

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (1ZN8d)

45 41:

FWP!!!!

Oops....

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (sAmhv)

46 That is an, absolutely wonderful, display piece. I'd center it on a shelf surrounded by old family photos.

My 29 year old eyes suggest that is a 1947 or 48 Polaroid Land Camera Model 95. You're not going to use it again unless you hire someone to alter it's guts and make it more conduscent to modern film. That one has no replacement film options.

Were it me, I'd find a nice antique table that catches the eye on its own, center the camera in the middle and surround it with very old photos of relatives including its original owner.

Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (dIske)

47 Polaroid Swinger trivia:

The Swinger's catchy commercial jingle was written by....

Barry Manilow!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (8schn)

48 I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit.

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt)

49 but thnx for the tip

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (ZxPkt)

50 40 32 A friend in Ohio bought a scanner at Radio Shack, and got lucky that it had the local cop cristals. Listening in, he heard the news about his idiot kid getting locked up.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (gm9Sb)

51 Troll sighting.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (6wpGE)

52 Been watching A Bridge Too Far, still 1/2 hour to go

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:17 PM (Ia/+0)

53 That is a lovely camera. I am sure you will treat it well.

Posted by: EFG at May 24, 2026 03:18 PM (nGRqb)

54 I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit.

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt)
-

Sounds like they need to be comforted after they arrive. Perhaps they have a chip on their shoulder.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (8schn)

55 I still have - what? - 3 or 5 old Polaroid cameras WITH the proper cases. One has an electro-acoustic rangefinder. They are such neat cameras - and I enjoyed the hell out of 'em - I can't get rid of them. Yes, I still have an UNOPENED pack of film for one of them … but I don't want to open it 'cos I can't buy more now.

Posted by: Dr_No at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (ayRl+)

56 My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.

F'in Idiots!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg)

What do those people get charged with, do you know?
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:14 PM (6wpGE)

I heard the initial report, but had to step away, so I didn't get to hear the result.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:20 PM (qx7Zg)

57 There is a collector hobby market for vintage cameras and film. I guess it keeps OK if sealed up well and refrigerated. Getting it developed might be a problem. Kodachrome was a specialized process.

Flashcubes. Remember those? I’m sure they sell well on eBay.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:20 PM (sEgd8)

58 54 I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit.

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt)
-

Sounds like they need to be comforted after they arrive. Perhaps they have a chip on their shoulder.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (8schn)

They could be sprinkled on icecream. The drear work of chopping them into sprinkle-sized pieces having already been done.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:22 PM (6wpGE)

59 My FWP is that I have a working scanner, so I can now hear the police reports about dogs locked in cars with all the windows up and engine off.

F'in Idiots!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (qx7Zg)

What do those people get charged with, do you know?
Posted by: m
===

Worked with a lady who locked her baby in the car.

She said as soon as the door closed, she realized the keys were still in it, looked in window, yup, keys in there. Started to mouth "oh, shit" as she turned around, saw a big enough rock, swooped it up, stepped to the back window, and SMASH. Not even ten seconds tops.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:22 PM (/lPRQ)

60 41 FWD!!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:15 PM (sAmhv)

45 41: FWP!!!!
Oops....
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (sAmhv)

FWD FWP!

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:23 PM (6wpGE)

61 Kodak says if the 1924 British Everest expedition camera carried by George Mallory could be found, there should still be usable images upon development. Cold and dry up at 29000 feet.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:24 PM (sEgd8)

62 I'm in the midst of digitally archiving many family artifacts. Earlier this week I came across a 1968 Polaroid of my father and his siblings.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 03:24 PM (2Ez/1)

63 Old cameras look good as sculptures on a shelf if you have a number of them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2026 03:26 PM (n5tGW)

64 Polaroid Swinger trivia:

The Swinger's catchy commercial jingle was written by....
Barry Manilow!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,


More trivia -

Before the Polaroid "Swinger" they were known as "people of the inverted pineapple".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:26 PM (/lPRQ)

65 >Kodachrome was a specialized process.
+++

You could write a song about that.

Posted by: P. Simon at May 24, 2026 03:27 PM (2Ez/1)

66 65 >Kodachrome was a specialized process.
+++

You could write a song about that.
Posted by: P. Simon at May 24, 2026 03:27 PM (2Ez/1)

It gives you the nice, bright colors.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (6wpGE)

67 Edward Land, inventor of the Polaroid, was a standup guy and played a large though largely unknown role in high altitude spy photography for the U-2 and subsequent space satellite imagery.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (sEgd8)

68 A Smithsonian donation seems appropriate.

Posted by: Patrick at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (9UngV)

69 >Edward Land, inventor of the Polaroid, was a standup guy and played a large though largely unknown role in high altitude spy photography for the U-2 and subsequent space satellite imagery.
-----

and taking naughty photos of the missus
snap snap grin grin

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (ZxPkt)

70 Certainly could be interesting to search web for old film

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (Ia/+0)

71 Paul, you finish your homework or I'll take it away!

Posted by: Mama at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (2Ez/1)

72 I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (Wmg4n)


I am pulling the motor out of my clothes washer today to see if that is the reason it stopped working.
Seriously, it is that, the clutch or the timer switches, since that is pretty much all that I have not removed and inspected, and none of the other options smell like fried electrical equipment.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (rbvCR)

73 (sEgd

58 54 I've ordered cookies off Amazon before. They suffer in transit.

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (ZxPkt)
-

Sounds like they need to be comforted after they arrive. Perhaps they have a chip on their shoulder.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:19 PM (8schn)

What a macaroon!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at May 24, 2026 03:31 PM (as+Gn)

74 Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink. Say no more, say no more!

Posted by: Is she a goer? at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (2Ez/1)

75 "Edward Land, inventor of the Polaroid, "

------

I think you mean Edwin Land.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (n9eFH)

76 >>>@13 FWP: my grocer no longer carries Family Size Keebler Sandies ... all is lost ...Posted by: Don Black
==================
Greetings, DB ... Cat Scratch Kitchen has a Youtube video named "The Best Copycat Keebler Sandies Recipe You Need to Try" ... Recipe ingredients and directions are included.

Posted by: Kathy at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (zuKcR)

77 The Soviets took the first photos of the far side of the Moon. But they used American film - special thin film stuff confiscated from a downed plane

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (sEgd8)

78 It's gorgeous. Display it on a shelf.

Posted by: DinsdalePiranha at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (yFfLy)

79 What a macaroon!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at May 24, 2026 03:31 PM (as+Gn)
-

I won't forget that!

Posted by: Pepperidge Farm at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (8schn)

80
Every time I throw something like this away, I need it 3 years later -- or I see one on the internet for $10,000.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (n7rxJ)

81 I have a 100+ year old Leica 35mm camera. Ridiculously complicated.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (jehhT)

82 ! Fucking spell correct

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (sEgd8)

83 There may be a collector who will pay good Money, and give it a good home.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (P+ul4)

84 Certainly could be interesting to search web for old film
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 03:30 PM (Ia/+0)


It used to be possible to source old film types from Czechia and Serbia (probably Serbia, maybe Montenegro, I forget) since they had the old Agfa-type Soviet era producers.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (rbvCR)

85 TY Kathy

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (ZxPkt)

86 Certainly could be interesting to search web for old film
Posted by: Skip
-----

15 So, I guess there's no hope for my Polaroid Swinger.
Posted by: IrishEi ?!


Just search the net for "Polaroid Swinger film".
Plenty out there.

Turn off 'safe-search' for best results.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:35 PM (/lPRQ)

87 >>>Just search the net for "Polaroid Swinger film".
Plenty out there.
~~~~~

Last time I used it was at a Harlem Globetrotters game. If I hadn't written on the photos, you might have thought they were pictures from a family album of ants.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at May 24, 2026 03:35 PM (3ImbR)

88 Who was the 'journalist' that Ace said should get a hot dog stand, because he looked like he'd be really great at slinging dogs? It was a whole article of its own, with riffs like how he could probably pay for his retirement by just parking outside Brian Stelter's studio.
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (Sy6m/)


Oh I remember now, it was Chris Hayes. And with that, I was able to find it and discover that I misremembered: it wasn't Stelter funding his retirement, it was Ed Schultz covering the rent.

March 13, 2015

And Now a Polite and High-Minded Conversation With Chris Hayes In Which We Discuss The Important Matters of The Day As Well as His Future With MSNBC

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/355499.php

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:35 PM (Sy6m/)

89 76 >>>@13 FWP: my grocer no longer carries Family Size Keebler Sandies ... all is lost ...Posted by: Don Black
==================

If you happen to live near an Aldi:

https://tinyurl.com/ywtd4y6y

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (2Ez/1)

90
I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper

=============

Yay indeed! What kind?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ)

91 When I was a kid I thought that "Land camera" meant that it wasn't suitable for underwater use. I had no idea that the guy who invented it was named Land.

There are several outfits that've geared up to start manufacturing Polaroid films again, though I don't recall seeing any for cameras this old.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 03:38 PM (IG3/x)

92 Yay indeed! What kind?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ)

Mine is a brunette.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:38 PM (594J6)

93
As much as I know that I was a much better photographer with film and my Canon AE-1 and a span of five lenses from macro through "regular" to telephoto. when the time came to say, "Adios!" to them, I did so with only the slightest twinge of regret.

My photos that I liked best, because I had to work at them, were of people, particularly our scouts, engaged in their activities. Vistas, landscapes, and the like I conceded to others.

A camera on a smart phone is vood enough for me and mine at this stage. Have I surrendered something? Sure. But I have other areas where I wish to be creative, too.

So it goes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:39 PM (s9VOe)

94 92 Yay indeed! What kind?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ)

Mine is a brunette.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:38 PM
____
The horde never disappoints.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 03:40 PM (2Ez/1)

95 Start searching for a collector that wants that camera (might take 3 years of on and off searching) and unload it to said collector for a pretty penny, otherwise it will be worthless.

For the purpose of memories, open that thing up, set it on a dark mat, and take multiple digital pictures of it from every angle, then your wife can look at those when she wants to.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 03:40 PM (O7YUW)

96 Yay indeed! What kind?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ)

Mine is a brunette.
Posted by: Reforger

So is mine.

Wait a minute....

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2026 03:41 PM (as+Gn)

97 Henry Ford museum in Dearborn MI would be a great contact. They have an online contact form to submit for discussion on placing your item and their displays of this type of item are top notch.It would be preserved and cataloged with your wife’s grandfather’s name and will be seen by thousands of people rather than being stored away at your home.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 24, 2026 03:41 PM (M4pvf)

98 Edward Land, inventor of the Polaroid, was a standup guy and played a large though largely unknown role in high altitude spy photography for the U-2 and subsequent space satellite imagery.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:28 PM (sEgd


True.
There was a time when where Land worked was classified when connecting that location with film.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (2WIwB)

99 FWP!!!

I just rebooted my gateway. The Internet just.....stopped. I was watching the Indy 500 and then it just stopped. A spinning circle letting me know something is amiss. So, with my decades worth of advanced technical experience, I rebooted the gateway. Hope that works.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (0FDsh)

100
Chris Hayes, if I recall correctly, wrote of sobbing softly into the sleeve of his sweater. About what? Who the hell knows?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (s9VOe)

101 I carried an AE-1 and all the accessories and lenses and accoutrements (including, a fucking Tripod) on a backpack trip through Grand Teton NP. This was in addition to all the other stuff ordinarily carried in a backpack in the 1980s

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (sEgd8)

102 Oh shit. Here she comes.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:43 PM (594J6)

103 You can modify these to shoot 120 with 3d printed parts.
I have one of these in my collection but haven't modded it yet.
I still like to shoot film as a hobby, mostly because my Dad left me a decent Olympus with a full load of lenses. It helps that you can now pick up lenses and accesories for next to nothing.

Posted by: stv at May 24, 2026 03:43 PM (XMeSM)

104 My FWP:
Commercials that use a door bell that sounds exactly like mine.

Assholes.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 03:44 PM (2WIwB)

105
Henry Ford museum in Dearborn MI would be a great contact. They have an online contact form to submit for discussion on placing your item and their displays of this type of item are top notch.It would be preserved and cataloged with your wife’s grandfather’s name and will be seen by thousands of people rather than being stored away at your home.
Posted by: Jen the original


Well, at least until the local Moo Slims go all jihadist and sack and burn the place down the ground.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:45 PM (s9VOe)

106 You can make your own film, you know.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 03:45 PM (vFG9F)

107 DanMa'am hung onto some film from a projector from the mid 50s to early 60s, family films made by her dad. Sent them of to those guys that do old films. Got three CDs worth of excellent color films ranging from her parents first house in Denver (under construction and finished), many days on the beach in La Jolla and a lot of her as a baby to about 5 years old with her little brother. And the cars of the era.

Very cool stuff.

Posted by: DanMan at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (8uzBS)

108 I later sold the whole shootin’ match for $175, not too bad I thought. Telephoto, standard lens, etc. the flash device even still worked. There is still a market. I think it went to eastern europe or some russia adjacent place

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (sEgd8)

109 > Kodachrome was a specialized process.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 03:20 PM (sEgd

Yep. Processes C-41 and E-6 (color negative and Ektachrome color slides respectively) could be done at a local lab or even at home with a bit of care. Process K-14 (Kodachrome color slides) was...not easy to process. You had to have an actual analytic chemist on staff if you wanted to get good results.

Part of it was that Kodachrome was actually dyed during development, while the others had the dyes already in their specific layers of the film. However, this meant that you could use super-mondo-skookum dyes, making for unmatched image quality and image stability.

Ektachrome slides from the 70s mostly look like ass. Properly stored Kodachrome still looks grerat.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (IG3/x)

110 I've been informed that the vacuum cleaner needs to get to work.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (594J6)

111
I am pulling the motor out of my clothes washer today to see if that is the reason it stopped working.
Seriously, it is that, the clutch or the timer switches, since that is pretty much all that I have not removed and inspected, and none of the other options smell like fried electrical equipment.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026

We have already replaced the washing machine we bought when we built the house. It’s crazy, the part that was broken was more than a new machine.

I definitely upgraded the dishwasher from what the builders put in with this purchase, hopefully that makes a difference.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM (Wmg4n)

112 OT- Babylon Bee

Study finds link between checking the news and wishing Jesus to return:

https://tinyurl.com/2z9fnwmh

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2026 03:47 PM (looXz)

113 I'd like, as one of the Troublesome Texans on this blog, to observe that every FWP presented so far in this series is hylic in nature.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (0sNs1)

114 Did you get an AI dishwasher that arranges the dishes for you?

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (vFG9F)

115 I still have a Nikon F2 35mm SLR which I got in 1977. Haven't thought about finding film, but can't get rid of it either.

Posted by: RS at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (GYx3d)

116 78 It's gorgeous. Display it on a shelf.
Posted by: DinsdalePiranha at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (yFfLy)

That would require dusting?!!!???

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (6wpGE)

117 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:42 PM (s9VOe)

According to Brave AI, Hayes "tweeted the phrase 'Looking out the window and quietly crying into my sweater' in April 2007."

"The search context does not specify the exact personal reason for his distress at that time, noting only that he was working as a writing fellow at the Nation Institute and a contributing writer at The Nation magazine."

Musical interlude:

The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather (Official Video)
https://youtu.be/GCdwKhTtNNw

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:49 PM (Sy6m/)

118 I've been informed that the vacuum cleaner needs to get to work.
Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 03:46 PM


Doing the sucking that failed Presidential candidates won't do?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:49 PM (0sNs1)

119 Almost surely already covered, but I thought Fuji continues to make film. Possibly other manufacturers.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 03:49 PM (U/Byj)

120 90
I just bought a new dishwasher. Yay.
Posted by: Piper

=============

Yay indeed! What kind?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:36 PM (n7rxJ)

Bosch 800, black stainless.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2026 03:50 PM (Wmg4n)

121 I bought one of the early digital cameras; a Sony Mavica. It took a 3.5 inch floppy disk. 1998.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:50 PM (jehhT)

122 I love stuff like that camera. It's even cooler if it works.

I love the little hinges and springs and buttons and all the nickel-plated hardware. Cute!

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 24, 2026 03:51 PM (FMtrg)

123 121 I bought one of the early digital cameras; a Sony Mavica. It took a 3.5 inch floppy disk. 1998.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:50 PM (jehhT)


A floppy disk? That's one of those 3-D prints of a Save icon, right?

Posted by: Kids these days at May 24, 2026 03:52 PM (n9eFH)

124
One can tell gobsmacking whoppers when viewing old and faded Polaroid photos with one's grandchildren.

"Oh, that was a day when the Sun was especially bright and its light overexposed photos often. All the swells wore sunglasses all the time."

"Now, that was a day with really heavy fog. Moms used to admonish us, 'Don't go outside without your galoshes, Dougie -- you know how slippery things get in this fog!"'

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (s9VOe)

125 It's gorgeous. Display it on a shelf.
Posted by: DinsdalePiranha at May 24, 2026 03:33 PM (yFfLy)

That would require dusting?!!!???
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (6wpGE)


Don't block access to the whiskey!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (2WIwB)

126 After the Butlerian Jihad, digital cameras are outlawed and this camera will be cutting edge again.

Posted by: Goatweed at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (jK3NL)

127 Was freezing while it was drizzling. Now boiling. Backwoods Indiana, I love you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (IifvS)

128 "black stainless"

+++
Guess that rules me out.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at May 24, 2026 03:54 PM (2Ez/1)

129 Indy 500 going to go to a shoot out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2026 03:56 PM (n5tGW)

130 Was going to fix my Krups coffee grinder (estimated age, 25 years+). Opened it up, only problem, as I thought, was some of the coating on the power wire had cracked, leading to a semi-break in the wire. Seems fairly easy to re-wire it using existing cord. Then I thought - well the cord is all old, it will likely crack again (just inside the housing, not where you can touch it).

So getting out the large pry bar to open up my wallet and spend the $25 for a new one. Utter defeat.

Hoping the krauts' QC on small appliances remains near perfect.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 03:56 PM (U/Byj)

131 >>>>every FWP presented so far in this series is hylic in nature.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (0sNs1)
*****
And YES! I had to look that up.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 24, 2026 03:56 PM (4BekB)

132
Our daughter took my Canon AE-1 and accessories off my hands. She has arteest friends who will put them to good use, and for that I an glad.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:57 PM (s9VOe)

133 113 I'd like, as one of the Troublesome Texans on this blog, to observe that every FWP presented so far in this series is hylic in nature.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2026 03:48 PM (0sNs1)

wut

hylic
adjective rare
relating to matter; material.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:58 PM (6wpGE)

134 > 'Don't go outside without your galoshes, Dougie -- you know how slippery things get in this fog!"'
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 03:53 PM (s9VOe)

Come out of the garden, baby
You'll catch your death in the fog
Young girl...they call them the diamond dogs

Posted by: David Bowie at May 24, 2026 03:58 PM (IG3/x)

135 Guess I could buy new power cord with a plug and just attach the contacts, so another 25 years before that problem recurs.

So, humiliation, not just defeat. Easier to click the online store icon then fix it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 03:59 PM (U/Byj)

136 How's this for an FWP and a land camera?!

https://tinyurl.com/2nk3xrjn

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 03:59 PM (8schn)

137 I carried an AE-1 and all the accessories and lenses and accoutrements (including, a fucking Tripod) on a backpack trip through Grand Teton NP. This was in addition to all the other stuff ordinarily carried in a backpack in the 1980s
Posted by: Common Tater
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My backpacking days in the 70-80s were documented with a Rollie 35 and Kodachrome slides. I have some of the family there. We took the easy route - take the ski lift up, then walk down. 3 days.
That's another "one of these days". Scanning two shoe boxes of slides.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 24, 2026 04:00 PM (mSL0+)

138 The kids/grandkids came over earlier for our cookout. It's been pouring rain for a week and, of course it poured today.

I grilled in the garage. My truck smells wonderful.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 04:00 PM (jehhT)

139 I think this week I'm going to finally install the stove top I found on a jobsite 18 years ago. Upgrades to stuff that had already been installed. So new but roughly removed once.
The one in my trailer is really showing it's age.

Vacuuming is done though.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 04:01 PM (594J6)

140 Wouldn't want to call you late for supper
FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:02 PM (Ia/+0)

141 It goes in a curio cabinet. Out of space in your curio cabinet? You buy another curio cabinet. At least this is the "solution" I've found for this sort of problem. For various definitions of the word "solution".

Basically, you're making a museum of you. Once you have enough curio cabinets you get tour guides, a concession stand, and headphones with oral history by voice actors to hand visitors, that sort of thing.

I'm hoping to one day be able to have an amusement park section with a jungle themed logjam ride for weary visitors that need to cool off.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (3uBP9)

142 Top pic looks very similar to the Kodak Brownie that I took on my first class trip. Went to the Crystal Caverns in PA. On the bus ride out, we passed the Union water sphere just off the Garden State Parkway. At the time it was billed as the world's largest water sphere, so by way of testing the camera and my Ansel Adams chops, I snapped a pic from the back of the bus. Saved the rest of the film for the amazing sights from the caverns.

Got the film back from the developer, and the water sphere shot was the only one that printed. Perfectly framed, and world's tallest at the time though, so I got that going for me...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (nbLIj)

143 For folks with old film cameras (raises my hand), film is still made for 35mm, 120 rolls for twin lens reflex, and 4x5 inch sheet film for old press cameras. The prices make me gasp when I think about what I paid thirty years ago but it is available. If I got back into film photography again I would revive my darkroom gear as well. Most film developing and printing is simple and procedural, not rocket science. I've seen some photos my grandfather took of my aunt in a high chair during WW I. He developed the film in their bath tub and printed with daylight exposure.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 04:04 PM (yTvNw)

144 142 Went to the Crystal Caverns in PA. On the bus ride out, we passed the Union water sphere just off the Garden State Parkway. At the time it was billed as the world's largest water sphere, so by way of testing the camera and my Ansel Adams chops, I snapped a pic from the back of the bus.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:03 PM (nbLIj)

Cool. I had to look up "water sphere," and then "Union water sphere." I think I would've called that a "water tower"; I guess it's one type of water tower?

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:09 PM (6wpGE)

145 81 I have a 100+ year old Leica 35mm camera. Ridiculously complicated.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 03:34 PM (jehhT)

heh

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:10 PM (6wpGE)

146 Cool. I had to look up "water sphere," and then "Union water sphere." I think I would've called that a "water tower"; I guess it's one type of water tower?
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:09 PM (6wpGE)

Union, NJ was home to several of the best 24 hour diners in the world, but the town fathers chose to promote the water "sphere". Tells you everything you need to know about Union, NJ...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (nbLIj)

147 What a finish.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 04:15 PM (viF8m)

148
I grilled in the garage. My truck smells wonderful.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 04:22 PM (pRWl6)

149 146 Cool. I had to look up "water sphere," and then "Union water sphere." I think I would've called that a "water tower"; I guess it's one type of water tower?
Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:09 PM (6wpGE)

Union, NJ was home to several of the best 24 hour diners in the world, but the town fathers chose to promote the water "sphere". Tells you everything you need to know about Union, NJ...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 04:13 PM (nbLIj)

; )

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (6wpGE)

150 Really fun race, glad they didn't finish under yellow.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 24, 2026 04:27 PM (n5tGW)

151 2 Isn't that the same miniature camera model OSS used to take photos of NAZI war plans?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (/lPRQ)
Smuggled in your rectum.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 05:02 PM (LHPAg)

152 Air drop it into a LA forest fire?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 24, 2026 05:35 PM (cWLG3)

153 My 29 year old eyes suggest that is a 1947 or 48 Polaroid Land Camera Model 95. You're not going to use it again unless you hire someone to alter it's guts and make it more conduscent to modern film. That one has no replacement film options.

Were it me, I'd find a nice antique table that catches the eye on its own, center the camera in the middle and surround it with very old photos of relatives including its original owner.
Posted by: Orson at May 24, 2026 03:16 PM (dIske)

Might be able to alter the back to accept 120 roll film. If they still make that...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 05:48 PM (8zz6B)

154 It belongs in a museum!
Donate it to the Smithsonian and take the tax break. Maybe they will create any educational display on the history of photography showing the quality of photographic resolution and how it has improved over the years.

Posted by: John at May 24, 2026 06:12 PM (0DsdP)

155 You should have bought a Kodak.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 06:18 PM (D1E+2)

156 I sold a Polaroid instant camera on eBay for a couple hundred dollars.

Posted by: Bob at May 24, 2026 07:24 PM (cNhbl)

157 ...And then, there's the bleeding edge.

Was down on South Padre Island for the SpaceX launch, and while we were loafing in chairs drinking beer and waiting for the Big Show, some dude walked by sporting one of the new Hasselblad XD II cameras. 100MP beast! I almost dropped my beer.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at May 24, 2026 07:50 PM (75oA2)

158 Sold mine at a yard sale, but it was not Grandads, I think I got it from my Dad but it was not a camera he used ever as far as I remember. Did keep his Rollie and my brother got his Leicas, older models that were not in reality very good compared to newer film models.

Just checked the spelling of Rollie by typing it in Duck Duck Go and an add for my Dad's Rollie came up for sale at $700. Did not think they were worth that much anymore.

Sold a Bunch of the cameras I have been collecting over the years at the yard sale, did keep the Rollie, and a few 35mm Minoltas I still have lenses for.

Posted by: fred4d at May 24, 2026 09:29 PM (f+9hS)

159 Last time I used a camera like that (in the '70s...a Brownie of some sort), I think the film was known as 120 (for 12 pics), and 220 (for 24 pics). I could be wrong.


You know what? Count on it.

Posted by: look whats not at May 24, 2026 10:22 PM (nakGR)

160 For Polaroid film, try ebay or etsy -- search Model 95 film.

See also darkskiesfilm.com




Posted by: AppleBetty at May 24, 2026 10:24 PM (2YybP)

The All-Encompassing Naïveté of The True Believers

Nicholas Kristof is entirely unimportant. His laughable article claiming that Israel uses trained dogs to sexually assault Palestinian prisoners is clownish and will disappear without a trace, except for a small group of rabid Jew-haters who will dredge it up occasionally, even though it has been thoroughly debunked.

He is a reliable leftist who has spent his entire professional life cultivating an air of moral superiority, coupled with the arrogance to claim that he is in fact detached...merely an observer of the human condition.

He is unimportant because there are thousands of people exactly like him who produce a fungible product for their media masters. One ardent progressive's article about [fill in the blank] is functionally and stylistically identical to the next. Whether it is Palestine or Global Warming or EVs or clean water or racism in American policing; the stories are all the same blend of pseudo-intellectual rigor combined with hyper-emotional rhetoric designed to do one thing...sway the reader toward the progressive cant.

And they reek of that moral superiority and smugness that is so, so grating to the observant consumer. But it is mostly honest and heartfelt. Sure, some of these progressive drones pumping out identical articles about X or Y or Z are in it for the influence they believe they can exert on the body politic to sway them, and their manipulation of reality is entirely intentional.

But Kristof is almost certainly an earnest and honest reporter. That he is an ignorant fool without any understanding of the human condition is secondary to his feeling that his reporting is absolutely correct on his elevated moral plane, even if that pesky thing called "fact-checking" is conspicuously absent. Is he an anti-semite? Maybe? But he is certainly a fool.

No...the blame for that ridiculous but politically expedient article lies with the senior management of the New York Times, who knew quite well that the article was mostly nonsense...but published it anyway!

And why? Because they have a carefully constructed and longstanding policy of antagonism toward Israel and traditional Judaism. They also have a curated list of other causes that they support, including socialism. And that goes back a very long way. The editors of the New York Times were aware of Stalin's systematic starvation and murder of millions of Ukrainians in 1932-1933, yet they chose to ignore it because it guaranteed them access to Soviet leadership, and it furthered the cause of world socialism. Walter Duranty, the correspondent, was a useful idiot in the process.

So the next time the NYT or the WaPo or any number of reliably leftist rags and media outlets publishes such a rank and obvious propaganda piece; don't blame the writer or talking head. He may very well be complicit, but it is also likely that he is an ignorant, poorly educated, insular knucklehead who simply doesn't know enough to have an educated opinion on anything other than ketchup or mustard on a hot dog.

Blame the media bosses who have a plan, and execute it very well.

Posted by: CBD at 11:50 AM




Comments

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1 Kristof's dad was an actual Nazi

like, German army in WW2 Nazi

Posted by: just saying at May 24, 2026 11:51 AM (HglFn)

2 Morn' all

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 11:51 AM (7tT0W)

3 The defining characteristic of a Progressive is sanctimony.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (NcvvS)

4 Good morning horde
Wait, looks at clock,
What the Hell is this doing here?

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (Ia/+0)

5 Because they have a carefully constructed and longstanding policy of antagonism toward Israel and traditional Judaism. They also have a curated list of other causes that they support, including socialism.

I think they support socialism to destroy faith as there can be no faith other than Big Govt.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 11:59 AM (/+uur)

6 Julius Streicher, publisher of you-know-who's Der Stürmer was hung at Nuremberg.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 12:00 PM (2Ez/1)

7 Not sure about that "honest reporter" part...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 24, 2026 12:01 PM (XMwZJ)

8 To be clear.

The leftist 'blowback' to the dogrape article is not because Kristof unquestionably related laughably false propaganda that hurt both his and the NYT reputation (what little there is left).

No, leftist blowback is because they think he wrote BADLY and didn't PROPERLY make the case for the fact that they all know DA JOOS are using dogs to rape those poor innocent Palestinians, why didn't Kristof do a better job of writing about 'the truth'!

This is what leftists actually believe.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at May 24, 2026 12:01 PM (setIA)

9 Hey, I have a PULITZER!

Posted by: Nick Kristof at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (u/oMr)

10 Read from a number of people who say from experts on dogs its impossible to teach them that. But no lie is out of the question to spread enough to believe.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (Ia/+0)

11 Speaking of true believers - Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...that Trump is a thug and he done done Cornyn dirty - it's a surety that now a lift-wing liberal whackadoo democrat will get elected in Texas and take Cornyn place! Oh my!

Yeah, no - because as Kristoff, has shown nothing is more pathetic than the foolish true believer.

Posted by: Boswell at May 24, 2026 12:04 PM (j10i6)

12 9 Hey, I have a PULITZER!
Posted by: Nick Kristof at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (u/oMr)

---

And WE have Nobel Peace Prizes!

Posted by: Yasser Arafat and Barry Soetoro at May 24, 2026 12:04 PM (Ucgf4)

13 Endless blood libels.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 12:05 PM (8schn)

14 Good afternoon everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 12:07 PM (Ia/+0)

15 11 Speaking of true believers - Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...that Trump is a thug and he done done Cornyn dirty - it's a surety that now a lift-wing liberal whackadoo democrat will get elected in Texas and take Cornyn place! Oh my!

It would have been better if Trump hadn't weighed in on this race...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:09 PM (7tT0W)

16
insular knucklehead who simply doesn't know enough to have an educated opinion on anything other than ketchup or mustard on a hot dog.

Until that fateful sentence you were doing fine CBD, but-

that you even considered the application of ketchup to a hot dog to be a valid position means that you too are an insular knucklehead and a tool of Big Ketchup!

Terrible stirred Manhattans have addled your brain.

Good day, sir!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 12:10 PM (iJfKG)

17 How many print reporters and especially print columnists and editors are failed or wanna-be novelists, playwrights, or screen writers? This could be fascinating to know.

Posted by: Gref at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (5rh/l)

18 Kristoff is either stupid or an antisemite. It’s quite possible he’s both. Stupid is believes what he wrote; antisemite if he’s knows it’s obvious BS but went ahead anyway

His bosses are bad people; so is he

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (26GAh)

19 The NYT just published a lengthy response to "our questions" about Kristof's column. Think they owned up to their mistakes? Quite the opposite.
Here are just SOME of the ways this response by Kristof and @katiekings is disgusting.
And yes, they double down on the dog rape

https://tinyurl.com/4apmycbj

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (ndZc7)

20 what naturalfake said about ketchup. yuch

Posted by: TALACHULITNA at May 24, 2026 12:12 PM (FWYVY)

21 This could be fascinating to know.
Posted by: Gref at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (5rh/l)

All of them.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 12:12 PM (594J6)

22 Its Marxism Propaganda, nothing else to spread

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 12:13 PM (Ia/+0)

23 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I put ketchup on hotdogs: but when I became a man, I put mustard on hotdogs — Long lost version of I Corinthians 13

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:14 PM (26GAh)

24 How can someone as spectacularly stupid, or foolish, get such a prominent platform? Does he have a gift for saying stupid things well?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 12:15 PM (wBzSI)

25 Cry Churban! and let slip the rape dogs of war!

Posted by: Temu Shakespeare at May 24, 2026 12:15 PM (J4Dwc)

26 The defining characteristic of a Progressive is sanctimony.
Posted by: Nazdar
-------

True. Let's put it into words:

"Sanctimony refers to a self-righteousness or assumed moral superiority that often involves judging others harshly"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:16 PM (XeU6L)

27 I don't believe Kristof is honest.
Every aware person knows that Palestinians exaggerate their casualties and stage their victimhood, so even if there are real victims among them their claims need to be treated with caution.
Kristof cannot be so naive, otherwise he would never have made it as a reporter, back in the day.

Posted by: PG at May 24, 2026 12:17 PM (Q4aSA)

28 I had a Golden Lab that would “rape” your leg sometimes. He wasn’t trained to do that nor was he an anti-Semite.

Posted by: JROD at May 24, 2026 12:17 PM (5LUfU)

29 Rumors of what a peace deal might look like.

Patrick Bet-David
@patrickbetdavid
There is a lot of noise surrounding the potential US/Iran deal.
Here’s what the rumors are so far:
- Iran has agreed to give up its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. Iran currently has 400 kg of highly enriched uranium. Enough for 11 nuclear bombs.
- The US would begin a phased unfreezing of Iran’s $6b to $30b in cash.
- The Strait of Hormuz will open up.- Iran won’t charge a penny for ships to pass through. No $2m toll fee.
- The US agrees to relieve some of the sanctions.
- War ENDS on all fronts with Lebanon.
- US forces near Iran to withdraw.
- 30 to 60 days to finalize the nuclear deal.
If true, that’s a massive victory for the President.
Here are the winners and losers.

(Continued at link)

https://tinyurl.com/43mwhj62

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (ndZc7)

30 *I don't believe Kristof is honest.*
+++
Hey, but he got your mouse click and page view.
That's all that counts.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (2Ez/1)

31 How can someone as spectacularly stupid, or foolish, get such a prominent platform? Does he have a gift for saying stupid things well?
Posted by: Northernlurker
--------

Consider Kamala Harris...or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (XeU6L)

32 Morning, CBD and Horde folks.

Taking a cool water break after replacing three deck boards in the roof. Next step: tar paper. About three sheets of that, and we are done for the day. Tomorrow morning, shingles, and the job is done. Working 7 AM to 10 AM, before it gets too hot up there. Part of the time, the tall palm tree throws some shade right where it is needed most.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (8zz6B)

33 Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...

Can't stand that guy...his voice is enough to make me shoot my radio. He is a lover of George Will and probably washes George's bow ties for him among other things.

Posted by: The 80's Called And They Want Hugh Back at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (OoF9t)

34 Here are the winners and losers.


The losers are the Iranian resistance who will continue to be executed

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:20 PM (7tT0W)

35 Is there a newspaper remaining that ISN'T leftist crapola? Can't think of one, certainly not in any city. The New York Daily Noooz still has its moments but they are rare. The Times, WaPo, Trib, etc., aren't worth glancing at at the store let alone spending money for. I used to get a Sunday Post once in a while just to have something when cleaning fish or potting up house plants. Can't bring myself to do that anymore. Bought a roll of news print paper for those chores. And I can use it for practice sketching as well.

I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw)

36
I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw)

Me too....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (7tT0W)

37 I believe printing the Kristof libel on the day before the Israeli report about 10/7 was released was not coincidence.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:23 PM (RCjYY)

38 I first time I ever heard of Hugh Hewitt he was on PBS in California. You cannot get any more RINO than that….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:23 PM (26GAh)

39 Hey, I have a PULITZER!
Posted by: Nick Kristof
---------

Hey, I got one too!

Posted by: Walter Duranty at May 24, 2026 12:24 PM (XeU6L)

40 28 I had a Golden Lab that would “rape” your leg sometimes. He wasn’t trained to do that nor was he an anti-Semite.
Posted by: JROD at May 24, 2026 12:17 PM (5LUfU)

Hes got a little Mississippi leg hound in him

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 12:24 PM (/+uur)

41 I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw)

It is amazing that even 51%+ Fox articles have at least 1 PDT ding even about positive news.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 12:25 PM (/+uur)

42
Is there a newspaper remaining that ISN'T leftist crapola?

GRIT

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:25 PM (Cqx++)

43 National Anthem at INDY

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 12:26 PM (/+uur)

44 Fox Liberal Sunday had Hugh Hewit and a small dwindling host of GOPe true believers with the sadz...

Can't stand that guy...his voice is enough to make me shoot my radio. He is a lover of George Will and probably washes George's bow ties for him among other things.
Posted by: The 80's Called And They Want Hugh Back at May 24, 2026 12:19 PM (OoF9t)

I can still tolerate Hewitt in small doses. He shared my opinion of John McCain during that fateful primary. He also was an early critic of the GOP open border policy. Lastly, he opposed the Harriet Mier Supreme Court nomination, wherein we got Justice Alito eventually. Not a bad record for a RINO...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 24, 2026 12:27 PM (nbLIj)

45 About three sheets of that, and we are done for the day. Tomorrow morning, shingles, and the job is done. Working 7 AM to 10 AM, before it gets too hot up there. Part of the time, the tall palm tree throws some shade right where it is needed most.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
------
Oh, when the sun beats down and burns the tar up on the roof
And your shoes get so hot, you wish your tired feet were fireproof...

Posted by: The Drifters at May 24, 2026 12:27 PM (XeU6L)

46 41

RE: FOX News

I've been noticing that too. It's a recent development.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY)

47 The Left pushes ideas that have to be disproven to their standards. Until then, what they say is true and even if they agree that an idea is disproven, the idea is not a lie or false, merely forgotten.

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (dwe6n)

48
National Anthem at INDY

Orange smoke. It's a new pope.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (Cqx++)

49 I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.
——

You answered your own question. The people are the Media now.

And the long established former monopolists don’t like that one bit.

Communication is key. It used to be if something wasn’t reported, it didn’t happen. That was rather the idea, actually.

So everyone was kept isolated and in the dark. Today, if something happens in Portland or Atlanta or St. Paul, we can find out in real time.

And compare notes. Name names. And the same ones sure do pop up a lot.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 12:29 PM (FaOSD)

50 41

RE: FOX News

I've been noticing that too. It's a recent development.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY)


Lachlan & Sarah Murdoch

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 12:32 PM (TqDYN)

51
This sort of thing has been going on at least since John Reed was sucking Lenin's testicles in print.

Lately, a majority of these anti-Joo and anti-Trump internet articles are produced as fodder for news aggregators. No single article is meant to be convincing, but when there are 30-40 articles are churned out on the intertubes saying that the Joos are bad, the idea is to plant the seed in people's minds that where there's smoke, there must be fire.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 24, 2026 12:33 PM (y9nCu)

52
RE: FOX News

I've been noticing that too. It's a recent development.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (RCjYY)

Trump put all the patriotic Fox celebs in his Administration... .... Just kidding... But maybe not

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 12:34 PM (7tT0W)

53 The losers are the Iranian resistance who will continue to be executed
Posted by: It's me donna

Yup.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:35 PM (ndZc7)

54 I believe printing the Kristof libel on the day before the Israeli report about 10/7 was released was not coincidence.

Absolutely. It was an op.

After centuries, you'd think they'd run out of blood libels to invent, but Jewish rape dogs is definitely a new one.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 24, 2026 12:35 PM (cJ3h6)

55 The Israelis also make matzoh ball soup with the blood of Palestinian children.

Posted by: It's Good, But A Little Too Salty at May 24, 2026 12:36 PM (oftw2)

56 Arsenal is 20 minutes from the title

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:37 PM (1ZN8d)

57 CBD showing off his privilege with the fancy umlaut and doo-dads on the naivete headline. Privilege he purchased in Tel Aviv.

Posted by: With Shekels To Spare at May 24, 2026 12:39 PM (oftw2)

58 They certainly don't make money at it.

Posted by: DaveA at May 24, 2026 12:40 PM (FhXTo)

59 If we weren’t putting Marines in Iran, there was no way dissidents would survive.
Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall.

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:40 PM (1ZN8d)

60 Kristof was so arrogant that he ran for governor of Oregon in 2022, despite there being a three-year residency requirement to run for governor.

Kristof claimed that he had moved to Oregon three years prior, but he kept voting in New York elections.

Kristof and his attorneys said that he "grew up in the state" and "owns a farm there".

Translation: he's a member of the Media Elite, and shouldn't be bound by the rules that should only apply to the peasantry.

The Oregon supreme court did not find Kristof's argument to be pervasive.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 24, 2026 12:43 PM (cJ3h6)

61 And they reek of that moral superiority and smugness that is so, so grating to the observant consumer.


So...like HOA presidents.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 12:43 PM (2WIwB)

62 The comedy potential of a swarm of ankle humping chihuahuas chasing some Hamastani down the street is huge. Cue yakity-sax

Posted by: DaveA at May 24, 2026 12:44 PM (FhXTo)

63 You're denying Kristof's agency. He had to know his dog rapes man story is false and wrong. Had to.

Kristof and useful idiots like him can force themselves to believe, like Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984, that O'Brien is holding up five fingers, not four, even though the actual truth in front of his face is four. Winston had the excuse that he was being horribly tortured and so willed himself to believe to make the torture stop. Kristof has no excuse. He buys the lie willingly. That's a moral choice, which makes Kristof culpable.

Posted by: troyriser at May 24, 2026 12:44 PM (v1M8F)

64 I hope, and assume, that Trump will keep all the military forces near Iran in place. The emerging deal is a truce, not a peace treaty.

I don't think the world believes that. But I bet Trump understands it.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:44 PM (RCjYY)

65 I am an HOA president, bub

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:45 PM (1ZN8d)

66 Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall.
——-

We’re all just on the outside looking in, with incomplete or inaccurate intelligence. There’s no telling what they “assumed” and unfortunately, sometimes action must be taken without any guarantees of success.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 12:46 PM (FaOSD)

67 X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 12:47 PM (ZxPkt)

68 I am an HOA president, bub
Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:45 PM (1ZN8d)


Ha.
I was too, years ago.
No more.
We actually. have a good one here. He's a police captain. A good man and neighbor.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 12:48 PM (2WIwB)

69 Considering how much Pahlavi was on TV, it is not an egregious conclusion. I stopped watching Tousi early on and saw why the ette’s might continue. My overall expectations for the war were not close.

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:48 PM (1ZN8d)

70 If the mullahs and the IRGC left in charge it's a failure.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 12:49 PM (594J6)

71 I'm not sure who "assumed the regime would fall." Israel certainly did not. I don't recall reading anything reflecting that "assumption," as opposed to "one possible outcome among several."

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:49 PM (RCjYY)

72 >>X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.

Imagine how heated it will be once the details are released and people can actually see what the deal contains!

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (viF8m)

73 Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall.

——-
Back during the Gulf War, I thought we'd be welcomed as heroes because it is the natural state of man to yearn to be free. I guess for a substantial portion of men, they enjoy their chains.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (ndZc7)

74 It's absolutely true. IDF referred to it as 'Operation Red Rocket.'

Posted by: Nicholas Kristof at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (J4Dwc)

75 I was an HOA president too.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:51 PM (RCjYY)

76 73

A substantial proportion of men do not wish to be hanged.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:53 PM (RCjYY)

77 https://tinyurl.com/43mwhj62

A tweet about rumors? Really?

I invoke the 48 hour rule on any reports of "deals" with Iran and its regime. Maybe the details laid out in the tweet are true, and maybe they aren't.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (GjEvj)

78 ...don't blame the writer or talking head. He may very well be complicit, but it is also likely that he is an ignorant, poorly educated, insular knucklehead who simply doesn't know enough to have an educated opinion on anything...


For years Mrs D.worked in the Communications Division of a large NW-based Defense and Aviation company (that will remain anonymous). In her job she worked daily with former media talking heads who had been hired to be part of the face of the company, and who would help craft their message. Some days she'd come home shaking her head at the absolute stupidity of these people. I met a couple. She wasn't wrong.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (2WIwB)

79 I was selected because I am a carpenter. My mother and I are also one of the few full time residents.
She told me what was afoot and that I should agree.

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (1ZN8d)

80 "Hey, but he got your mouse click and page view.
That's all that counts."
I haven't looked at the New York Times in many years.

Posted by: PG at May 24, 2026 12:55 PM (Q4aSA)

81 Yeah, looks like our pedo president is surrendering to Iran. He'd do anything to get out of his self-inflicted mess about now. He'd cannot remain in office.

Posted by: Sid at May 24, 2026 12:58 PM (+WQwn)

82 Whether Trump expected the regime to fall or merely hoped, is something we might learn later.
My interpretation of events was that collapse was plan A.
If Iran had not decided to blockade the Straight or attacked their neighbors, what would we have done?
Many things to haggle about.

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 12:59 PM (1ZN8d)

83
Trump described the document in question as a "memorandum of understanding." That's quite preliminary.

The Arab states in the region, plus Turkey, are involved. Pakistan is acting as an intermediary. I don't think Iraq was mentioned. Maybe it was and I missed it.

It appears that the Iranian people are not going to overthrow their government.

Except for Iraq, these are all Sunni-majority countries, and Iran is Shia. These countries are not friends of Iran. And Turkey sees Iran very much as a rival.

I don't know if this is brilliant diplomacy, or a fatal error in progress. I have no idea. I don't know if it is anticipated that Iran will violate any agreement and resumption of military strikes is anticipated.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (azNOR)

84 deal? there's a "deal"?

"A tweet about rumors? Really?

I invoke the 48 hour rule on any reports of "deals" with Iran and its regime. Maybe the details laid out in the tweet are true, and maybe they aren't.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 12:54 PM (GjEvj)"

affirm.
48, maybe even 96 or 168

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (VyBeY)

85 Gunshots Heard meme is alive on X

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (/+uur)

86 I've already got my schtick to get half of the HOA residents to vote for me when I move into my moms place.
Driveway snow removal for the North facing houses.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (594J6)

87 Back during the Gulf War, I thought we'd be welcomed as heroes because it is the natural state of man to yearn to be free. I guess for a substantial portion of men, they enjoy their chains.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (ndZc7)


By the third day of the ground war, we were heavy into planning on jumping the HQs deep into Iraq. (I was at the VII Corps HQs) The boss knew I had a background in middle east studies and he asked me about it. I told him we could easily beat the 1940 British record of getting from Basrah to Baghdad (30 days) but not to expect flag waving cheering crowds. We would not be seen as liberators.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2026 01:00 PM (2WIwB)

88 > X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.

Imagine how heated it will be once the details are released and people can actually see what the deal contains!
-----------
There's already disagreement on two purported US demands; opening Hormuz completely and forking over their Uranium stockpile. Two demands, IMO that are not negotiable.

I can't fathom a "deal" without either of those demands being met.

All of the other stuff? I'm sure it will be debated ad nauseum online and on the tube.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 24, 2026 01:01 PM (jehhT)

89 I was a member of our Property Owners Association Commision for three years. We did a good job, but the last 10 years or so the commission has been populated by younger people who have a 'vision'. God spare us from those who have a 'vision'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:01 PM (XeU6L)

90
If the mullahs and the IRGC left in charge it's a failure.
Posted by: Reforger

===============

I thought we knew early on that that couldn't happen without a long, bloody ground war.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:02 PM (n7rxJ)

91 "I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 12:22 PM (yTvNw)"

same

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:02 PM (VyBeY)

92 From Powerline, its Bob Dylan's 85th Birthday today

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:03 PM (Ia/+0)

93 81 is worse than Raimondo is/was. That's difficult to achieve.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 01:04 PM (RCjYY)

94 Hmm. I guess Sid is home from Church.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:04 PM (XeU6L)

95 No nick kristof tried to put stephen hatfill in jail allowijg the real anthrax bomber to get away

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:05 PM (bXbFr)

96 From Powerline, its Bob Dylan's 85th Birthday today
Posted by: Skip
------

"I can't see my reflection in the waters
I can't speak the sounds that show no pain
I can't hear the echo of my footsteps
Or can't remember the sound of my own name..."

Two things Robert; Hearing aids, glasses

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:07 PM (XeU6L)

97 It’s gonna be trailer-trash Ghoulash today. We’ll add some heat, a can of chipotle in adobo sauce, for a variation.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 01:07 PM (b9poi)

98 He was an arabist with a nazi father who the times sent to beijing and moscow as a lark

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:08 PM (bXbFr)

99 "I find the most timely and accurate news here on Ace. Seriously.

Posted by: JTB "

We strive for excellence.

Posted by: Penguin Facts at May 24, 2026 01:12 PM (vFG9F)

100 For some reason I thought Bob Dylan was dead.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:12 PM (IifvS)

101 Is there a newspaper remaining that ISN'T leftist crapola?

The Epoch Times:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 24, 2026 01:13 PM (Qp8q1)

102 Lil Marco

"The IDEA that somehow this president, given everything he's already proven he's willing to do, is going to somehow agree to a deal that ultimately winds up putting Iran in a STRONGER position when it comes to nuclear ambitions is ABSURD!"

"That's just NOT going to happen."

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 01:14 PM (/+uur)

103 No that was jerry garcia

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:14 PM (bXbFr)

104 Kristoff's kink is being a zoophile and getting yiffed by a dog.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (NyLLn)

105 3.38 per gallon in southern Indiana.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (IifvS)

106 And the dog is an Alsatian named Bruno.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (NyLLn)

107 For some reason I thought Bob Dylan was dead.

Easy mistake to make.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (vTZFs)

108 Anyone eeen the deal yet

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:16 PM (bXbFr)

109 Flipped through the news stations

Shrodinger's Peace Deal is undead. Apparently the last remaining, tiniest and most minor obstacle will be Iran's nuclear ambitions so this may be done by Tuesday!

MS NOW had a clip of Rubio....who IS amazing, saying there was a framework for a deal. I'm glass empty today so I think that's code for 'There's a framework to form the Committee that will form the rules that a newly formed Committee will then approve to initiate the working group to study the true possibilty of a Peace Deal."

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 01:16 PM (Sco7b)

110 Bob Dylan does look like a zombie.

Easy mistake.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:17 PM (NyLLn)

111 ... and a willing multitude of readers who, like Mulder, "want to believe".

Socialism is all their favorite fictional universe, unique in fiction in that there are places where you can go and experience the reality right now. If they were all just gibbering chuckleheads cosplaying their imagination in private it would be one thing, but they are actively trying to subject the real world to the horrors of their fantasy.

Posted by: banana Dream - tying things in to the book thread boss at May 24, 2026 01:17 PM (3uBP9)

112 Is he the worse Times chimp thats a tough call theres always michelle goldberg

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:18 PM (bXbFr)

113 Anyone eeen the deal yet
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:16 PM (bXbFr)

No, but i am absolutely convinced we are giving Iran nukes and 5 aircraft carriers and f-22s and Ivanka.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:18 PM (IifvS)

114 Gas been in $4.60s here for weeks

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (Ia/+0)

115 "He is a reliable leftist who has spent his entire professional life cultivating an air of moral superiority, coupled with the arrogance to claim that he is in fact detached...merely an observer of the human condition."

Well tell JAFO* then to sit down, shut up, and just observe, because that's about all he's good for.

* Acronym used in the movie "Blue Thunder", 1983

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (O7YUW)

116 That was sarcasm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (IifvS)

117 Chris hedges used to be the worse but he thought the Times wasnt crazy enough

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (bXbFr)

118 They want Ivanka
Will settle for Kathy Griffin
And get Lena Dunham

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (NyLLn)

119 Before there can be a deal, they need to decide on carpeting and the shape of the conference table

then comes the headache of choosing a coffeemaker and microwave

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (ZxPkt)

120 Gas been in $4.60s here for weeks
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:19 PM (Ia/+0)

Seems to be that one truck stop. Next sign i saw 3.85.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (IifvS)

121 I thought it was zany mad cap humor

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (bXbFr)

122 "News from the peace tslks today. Negotiators have agreed on the height of the flag poles at the building where the talks will take place."

~ P.A. announcer at MASH 4077 compound

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 01:20 PM (2Ez/1)

123 Soon it will be just 'The Traveling Wilbury'.

Sorry...morbid humor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:21 PM (XeU6L)

124 Sorry...morbid humor.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:21 PM (XeU6L)

He Wilbury the others.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (594J6)

125 Biggest error of the war was the assumption that the regime would fall.

——-
Back during the Gulf War, I thought we'd be welcomed as heroes because it is the natural state of man to yearn to be free. I guess for a substantial portion of men, they enjoy their chains.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (ndZc7)

To mix topics, Trump is screwing the pooch if reports can be believed.

I find it hard to believe that Trump would do deal with Iran because any deal is worthless without regime change. The very notion is idiotic; I pray that’s not what he’s doing but all indications are that he is. Never shoulda stopped bombing…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (Jehr5)

126
'There's a framework to form the Committee that will form the rules that a newly formed Committee will then approve to initiate the working group to study the true possibilty of a Peace Deal."
Posted by: Stateless

================

And what happens in the meantime?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (n7rxJ)

127 114 Gas been in $4.60s here for weeks
Posted by: Skip

$4.58 ten minutes ago. It's coming back down, again!
Ha.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 01:22 PM (NFX2v)

128
Lil Marco

"The IDEA that somehow this president, given everything he's already proven he's willing to do, is going to somehow agree to a deal that ultimately winds up putting Iran in a STRONGER position when it comes to nuclear ambitions is ABSURD!"

"That's just NOT going to happen."
Posted by: r hennigantx

===============

That's the thing. I have faith in Trump's appointees. I think Marco would sooner resign than leave that situation worse than we found it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:23 PM (n7rxJ)

129 $3.90 - $4.10 here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:24 PM (XeU6L)

130 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:25 PM (NyLLn)

131
That's the thing. I have faith in Trump's appointees. I think Marco would sooner resign than leave that situation worse than we found it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:23 PM (n7rxJ)

I hope you're right... I find it hard to believe Trump would do otherwise ... Iran has a 53 million dollar bounty on Trump's head and a bounty on Ivanka...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:26 PM (7tT0W)

132 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Still dead.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (XeU6L)

133 On Google maps, find a Wawa on it and hit that location, will tell gas price on it

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (Ia/+0)

134 130 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:25 PM (NyLLn)

Still dead.. Thought he was Jesus... Doubt he will be doing any rising...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (7tT0W)

135 I see that John McCain's son has died at 66. How dare he interrupt his father's funeral!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 01:27 PM (qx7Zg)

136 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?

He's in stable condition.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 01:28 PM (vTZFs)

137 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:25 PM (NyLLn)

Waiting to see if he rises again. Call me doubting Thomas if you want.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:29 PM (IifvS)

138 Kristof isn't a reliable leftist he is a provocateur. Jail is the least punishment he deserves.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:30 PM (pRWl6)

139 Disgusting people.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:30 PM (pRWl6)

140
He's dead, Jim.

Posted by: Obligatory at May 24, 2026 01:31 PM (2Ez/1)

141 Prognosis is, he won't recover? What a shame.
*plays tiny ukulele*

Was Brian Williams at the shooting by chance?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:31 PM (NyLLn)

142 Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: Gas Buddy at May 24, 2026 01:32 PM (2Ez/1)

143 > Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
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he remains dead at this time

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (ZxPkt)

144 "if reports can be believed"

I think I see the problem ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (VyBeY)

145 130 Speaking of morbid, what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Still dead, formerly as Mad as a Hatter, kept returning like a bad penny.
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UK Guardian

In part, He was involuntarily committed on 26 June in 2025 for “obstructing vehicle entry” to part of the White House complex, the court documents said, and on 10 July of that year he was arrested for unlawful entry after multiple officers confronted him for ignoring warning signs and walking into a restricted area outside the White House.

(Nasire) Best claimed to be Jesus and said “that he wanted to get arrested”, according to the filing. A judge issued a “stay away order”, a measure ordering a defendant not to go physically near a person or area before a trial, at an initial hearing that day, barring Best from the White House area.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (NFX2v)

146 shooter ADSTW

Arrived dead, stayed that way./

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 01:34 PM (RCjYY)

147 >>X is divided over whether Trump's 'deal' is a masterstroke of statecraft or a blunder of epic proportion.

Imagine how heated it will be once the details are released and people can actually see what the deal contains!
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2026 12:50 PM (viF8m)

Yes, that will be helpful.

The current pattern of Trump's "trust me, bro, the deal is almost done" for a month or more immediately followed by Iran's demand for our total capitulation hasn't done his credibility any good. Maybe *this* time there's something resembling a deal in play, but all the other times there clearly wasn't, since we're *still* waiting for it.

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 01:35 PM (vSvIl)

148 Skeptic, but its not 3 days yet

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:35 PM (Ia/+0)

149 If the mullahs and the IRGC left in charge it's a failure.
Posted by: Reforger

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I thought we knew early on that that couldn't happen without a long, bloody ground war.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Trump said from the beginning his goal was to remove the nukes. If he can do that, he's won. We were hoping for more but at what cost?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 01:36 PM (ndZc7)

150 Oh, when the sun beats down and burns the tar up on the roof
And your shoes get so hot, you wish your tired feet were fireproof...
Posted by: The Drifters at May 24, 2026 12:27 PM (XeU6L)

It was my knees and butt that was getting hot. Down off the roof at 10:25 AM. Done for day. Tarpaper is all stapled down.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:37 PM (8zz6B)

151 >>> Houston Attorney Charged with Felony Bestiality After Wife Catches Him RAPING the Family Dog on Hidden Surveillance Camera


They prefer to be called "Pet Lovers".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (/lPRQ)

152 (Nasire) Best claimed to be Jesus and said “that he wanted to get arrested”, according to the filing. A judge issued a “stay away order”, a measure ordering a defendant not to go physically near a person or area before a trial, at an initial hearing that day, barring Best from the White House area.

Yeah, that oughta do it.

Posted by: Idiot judge at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (Riz8t)

153 Speaking of spooks has anyone seen the questionable mask on the supposed general speaking on Fox News? It looks like a mask to me.


Here's the show clip: https://t.co/bbAQOdQQf6

Here's a close up: https://tinyurl.com/3xb6smdd

Here's CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez [we] created masks so realistic…that the ‘disguise’ was completely undetectable [by President GHW Bush and staff]. : https://tinyurl.com/399mcch6

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (pRWl6)

154 The daily snooz is terrible the post is pretty good

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 01:39 PM (bXbFr)

155 >Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:37 PM (8zz6B)
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dude what is the latest on independence
we heard a judge threw out the petition

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:40 PM (ZxPkt)

156 Guess that Houston attorney thought the dog was asking for it after dropping the chalupa.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2026 01:41 PM (NyLLn)

157 @TousiTVOfficial
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🇺🇸 🇮🇷 IRAN DEAL: Islamic Republic is accusing the U.S. of creating obstacles as both sides have reached a deadlock over potential deal.

Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far.

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:42 PM (ZxPkt)

158 $3.90 - $4.10 here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:24 PM (XeU6L)

$4.29 to 4.59 here in AJ. And if you are so careless as to need to buy gas in Wikieup, it's $6.00.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:43 PM (8zz6B)

159 I'm slowly catching up on the Indy 500. It's already started but I'm watching pre-race stuff. Fox brings a mix bag. Some of it's interesting, some isn't. Glad I record it. I just FF through the meh parts. I do not give a crap about 'Gronk'. FF. The only female in the field, Katherine Legge, is doing the double today. Indy 500 and Coca-Cola 600. She has no chance of winning either but I do hope she finishes both races. Kyle Busch is on a lot of minds in the Racing world. Even F1. The guy had some impact.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 01:43 PM (sAmhv)

160 How many print reporters and especially print columnists and editors are failed or wanna-be novelists, playwrights, or screen writers? This could be fascinating to know.
Posted by: Gref at May 24, 2026 12:11 PM (5rh/l)

So you're saying there's still a chance for me?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 01:43 PM (1Ff7Z)

161 157 @TousiTVOfficial
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@TousiTVOfficial
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🇺🇸 🇮🇷 IRAN DEAL: Islamic Republic is accusing the U.S. of creating obstacles as both sides have reached a deadlock over potential deal.

Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far.
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:42 PM (ZxPkt)


Maybe Trump needs to take out a bridge or two to get their attention.....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:45 PM (7tT0W)

162 UPDATE: The U.S. no longer expect a deal announcement today
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You'll just have to imagine my shocked face.

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 01:45 PM (vSvIl)

163 You know its always going to be some kind of problem with Iran

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:45 PM (Ia/+0)

164 I try to be evenhanded and objective, while the left in recent years has rejected the concept out of hand.

They Are Always Right, and that’s all there is to it. The amazing self-licking ice cream cone.

Now we do tend to congregate where viewpoints coincide with our own. The news that is reported, “official” news or not is largely the same, although their opinions are certainly different.

I spent a lot of time in the 90s and early 2000s on a college run bulletin board and learned leftist dogma and thought patterns. They are not quite ready for prime time. Their schtick works on children, however not too well on sentient educated adults.

It is good to engage, although they won’t allow reasoned debate using facts or logic.

They are at the “shoot the fuckers” stage, as we are all aware.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (/dDE1)

165 >what's the latest on the dead shooter?
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Police suspect fair play.

Posted by: The ghost of Dennis Miller at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (2Ez/1)

166 dude what is the latest on independence
we heard a judge threw out the petition
Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:40 PM (ZxPkt)

Every time they throw a monkey wrench into any legal means of separation, they just piss off more people, and bring us closer to a unilateral declaration of independence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (8zz6B)

167 Dude, do you even bother to zip up?

https://tinyurl.com/2w6apb7j

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 01:46 PM (ndZc7)

168 If there was a deal today it would be broken by tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (Ia/+0)

169
🇺🇸 UPDATE: The U.S. no longer expect a deal announcement today
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Tousi TV
@TousiTVOfficial
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Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far.
Posted by: Don Black

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Good. No deal is better than a bad deal.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (n7rxJ)

170 Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far.

1) We actually expect the Iranians to abide by the agreement.
2) Trump won't be sending any planes loaded with pallets of cash.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (Riz8t)

171 $4.29 to 4.59 here in AJ. And if you are so careless as to need to buy gas in Wikieup, it's $6.00.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I need maybe 5 gal. of non-ethanol gasoline for the yard implements. I expect that it's going to run $5+ /gal. Maybe $6.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:49 PM (XeU6L)

172 170 Two red lines are preventing the agreement from going forward so far.

1) We actually expect the Iranians to abide by the agreement.
2) Trump won't be sending any planes loaded with pallets of cash.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 01:48 PM (Riz8

And who is Trump dealing with ? It can't be the IRGC....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 24, 2026 01:49 PM (7tT0W)

173 Progressive bakery.

https://tinyurl.com/4s9n6ed3

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 01:50 PM (ndZc7)

174 And who is Trump dealing with ? It can't be the IRGC....

It's some guy named Irv, who mops the floors on Wednesday. He's the only one left above the dirt.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2026 01:50 PM (Riz8t)

175 We stopped to use the restroom and I got an energy drink. And my Dad goes: 'oh I can get that.' I laughed and pointed out i can buy my own energy drinks.

I am 51. Love Dad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:51 PM (IifvS)

176
Good. No deal is better than a bad deal.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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There is nothing inherently good about a compromise.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:51 PM (XeU6L)

177 Progressive bakery.

https://tinyurl.com/4s9n6ed3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Perhaps Somali.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:52 PM (XeU6L)

178 Thanks CBD for this essay but I demur.

I would not minimize it or dismiss it based on the ridiculous lack of substance. Most joo hate is also ridiculous. But the clear meaning was to blunt the impact of the latest report issued on sexual violence in the Oct. 7 attack, to invert it, and turn the violence once again back on its victims.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 01:52 PM (RIvkX)

179 There is nothing inherently good about a compromise.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Re-phrased, a compromise is not inherently good.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:54 PM (XeU6L)

180 @WhiteHouse
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“The negotiations are proceeding in an orderly and constructive manner, and I have informed my representatives not to rush into a deal in that time is on our side… Both sides must take their time and get it right. There can be no mistakes!” - President Donald J. Trump

Posted by: Don Black at May 24, 2026 01:54 PM (ZxPkt)

181 Yes, that's right.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 01:55 PM (NFX2v)

182 Two lines holding Iran up
How much jysm toll per ship it will cost
How fast can they get their nuke program going

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 01:56 PM (Ia/+0)

183 I would like to say I had a joo dog, and that dog didn't obey one single "sit" or "stay" let alone "rape!"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 01:58 PM (RIvkX)

184 The same New York Times that published Walter Duranty? The “Pulitzer Prize” winning apologist for Stalin’s Collective Farms and millions of starved out Kulaks? That New York Times?

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (/dDE1)

185 Here's the deal:
Trump says we aren't through until we have the uranium.

Iran says they aren't giving up the uranium,

In the meantime while Iran is pulling its pud Trump is manipulating power players of the world.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (pRWl6)

186 I would like to say I had a joo dog, and that dog didn't obey one single "sit" or "stay" let alone "rape!"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 01:58 PM (RIvkX)

Which ones are the jew dogs? How do you tell? Circumcised? I guess the prisoners could tell us.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (IifvS)

187 We stopped to use the restroom and I got an energy drink. And my Dad goes: 'oh I can get that.' I laughed and pointed out i can buy my own energy drinks.

I am 51. Love Dad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:51 PM (IifvS)
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My FiL z"l would get so infuriated I did stop offering.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (RIvkX)

188 I'm usually asleep during the day so I miss out on these early threads. Good grief, this place attracts retarded daytime trolls. I mean, the overnight ones aren't much better but geez.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 02:01 PM (sAmhv)

189 Which ones are the jew dogs? How do you tell? Circumcised? I guess the prisoners could tell us.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:00 PM (IifvS)
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Can tell by the jaunty way they wear a kippah.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 02:01 PM (RIvkX)

190 Good old Walter Duranty. He participated in “Ritual Sodomy” degenerate orgies with Aleister Crowley. LOL

Sounds like a real class act.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 02:02 PM (/dDE1)

191 Houston Attorney Charged with Felony Bestiality After Wife Catches Him RAPING the Family Dog

Boy, that lawyer sure screwed the pooch.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 02:02 PM (gKWVE)

192 Posted by: Paul at May 24, 2026 01:57 PM (1xQU5)

The last Republican was Ike in 1956. Democrats ever since then.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at May 24, 2026 02:03 PM (OD5vY)

193 Everyone liked Ike.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:04 PM (IifvS)

194 Meme: When Bulg meets Death

https://tinyurl.com/87jbfshb

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 02:05 PM (qx7Zg)

195 167 Dude, do you even bother to zip up?

https://tinyurl.com/2w6apb7j
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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Anti-family propaganda.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (pRWl6)

196 We are getting to the parts of Indiana where cell coverage is thinner.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (IifvS)

197 197 167 Dude, do you even bother to zip up?

https://tinyurl.com/2w6apb7j
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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Anti-family propaganda.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (pRWl6)

How many of those are baby mommas?

Posted by: Fair question these days at May 24, 2026 02:08 PM (TbWk/)

198 198 We are getting to the parts of Indiana where cell coverage is thinner.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (IifvS)

That HAPPENS in America?

You think the guy who likes horroe movies would know this.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:08 PM (Sco7b)

199 The biggest of all signs that this story is bullshit is that no self-respecting man is going to farm out raping bitches to a 3rd party. Self-respecting men are going to do their own raping, by golly. Even if it's nasty pali srunts that are the receptacles of such rape. They'll strap on a Trojan and get busy. There's no way I'm letting a dog do my fuckin for me and I'm not even a Hebe.

Posted by: Pendejo at May 24, 2026 02:09 PM (92ma5)

200 Thinner than what?

Posted by: I gotta ask at May 24, 2026 02:12 PM (2Ez/1)

201 We are getting to the parts of Indiana where cell coverage is thinner.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:06 PM (IifvS)
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Eat more fatty foods.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 02:13 PM (8schn)

202 No FWPs today?

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 02:21 PM (lJ0H4)

203 Waiting for it

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:24 PM (Ia/+0)

204
No FWPs today?
Posted by: Tuna

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You're soaking in them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 02:24 PM (n7rxJ)

205 By waiting for an expected FWP thread, we ACTUALLY complaining creating our own FWP becoming our own FWPs.

It's very artistic approach.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:27 PM (Sco7b)

206 I had a terrible day Friday

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:28 PM (Ia/+0)

207 I had a terrible day Friday
Posted by: Skip

What happened?

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 02:29 PM (lJ0H4)

208 208 I had a terrible day Friday
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:28 PM (Ia/+0)

What happened?

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:29 PM (Sco7b)

209 But Kristof is almost certainly an earnest and honest reporter

He is not. He believes nothing of what he says. He staked him claim on anti-Trumpism and it is nothing other than self-righteous hubris that prevents him from recanting that position.

Posted by: Halfhand at May 24, 2026 02:31 PM (IXblq)

210 him=his

Posted by: Halfhand at May 24, 2026 02:32 PM (IXblq)

211 Did irreparable harm to my truck

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:32 PM (Ia/+0)

212 Did irreparable harm to my truck
Posted by: Skip

Oh no! So sorry for you.

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 02:36 PM (lJ0H4)

213 213 Did irreparable harm to my truck

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 0

Ahh crap.
Although if crap like that happens, I might gather ideas here.people have gone through all crap.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:36 PM (Sco7b)

214
Did irreparable harm to my truck
Posted by: Skip

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Oh no. Sorry.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 02:37 PM (n7rxJ)

215 I always tried to close my tailgate, but didn't driving around building. Wrecked it and worse closed it. Don't think can open it now.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:39 PM (Ia/+0)

216 Did irreparable harm to my truck
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:32 PM (Ia/+0)

Are you Ok?

Does your truck now fit in short parking spaces?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 02:39 PM (qx7Zg)

217 3.38 per gallon in southern Indiana.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 01:15 PM (IifvS)

4.52 in Central NJ. At Quickcheck.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 24, 2026 02:39 PM (5xuJ/)

218 Oh, you're at the right place!

I'm not the right guy but.....

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:40 PM (Sco7b)

219 Just tailgate took a terrible hit.
Just hoping truck lasts a year and half more

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:43 PM (Ia/+0)

220 3 The defining characteristic of a Progressive is sanctimony.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (NcvvS)

Yes! It is.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 02:44 PM (6wpGE)

221 I would like to say I had a joo dog, and that dog didn't obey one single "sit" or "stay" let alone "rape!"
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Israel was accused of 'racism' because there is no recorded instance of one raping a Pali (despite large numbers the other way).
So just maybe Israel tried to train dogs to do it for them. To make up for their shortcomings...
Didn't work. Not even a dog will do a Pali.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:46 PM (/lPRQ)

222 >>>So the next time the NYT or the WaPo or any number of reliably leftist rags and media outlets publishes such a rank and obvious propaganda piece; don't blame the writer or talking head.

But ... Tucker Carlson?

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 02:47 PM (6wpGE)

223
Meanwhile, this new Green Card requirement has got X on fire.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 02:48 PM (n7rxJ)

224 I always tried to close my tailgate, but didn't driving around building. Wrecked it and worse closed it. Don't think can open it now.
Posted by: Skip

Check out the used car lots.
You can probably find the same make/model, even color.
Stop back later at night and trade tail gates.


/last I knew no tools required to remove

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:51 PM (/lPRQ)

225 That HAPPENS in America?

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:08 PM (Sco7b)

*spends time completely out of cell coverage for AT&T at least*

Yes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:54 PM (IifvS)

226 >>> John McCain’s Eldest Son Dies Suddenly at 66


They can combine their funerals.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:55 PM (/lPRQ)

227 *spends time completely out of cell coverage for AT&T at least*

Yes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 24, 2026 02:54 P

That was funny. Thanks for the laugh.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 24, 2026 02:56 PM (Sco7b)

228 Afraid shutting the gate its locked on

Had lots in bed and far from home, might have been able to replace or beat some dent out

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 02:56 PM (Ia/+0)

229 Who was the 'journalist' that Ace said should get a hot dog stand, because he looked like he'd be really great at slinging dogs? It was a whole article of its own, with riffs like how he could probably pay for his retirement by just parking outside Brian Stelter's studio.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 02:57 PM (Sy6m/)

230 Meanwhile, this new Green Card requirement has got X on fire.
——

Except, it isn’t a new green card requirement. It’s been in place since 1942. It’s not a “rule” or a “policy”. It’s black letter law.

It might just seem new, because the cocksuckers in government have been derelict in their duty to the law, their oath, and their personal conduct in the performance of those duties.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 02:58 PM (sEgd8)

231 NOOD FWP

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 02:58 PM (qx7Zg)

232 Meanwhile, this new Green Card requirement has got X on fire.
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Except, it isn’t a new green card requirement. It’s been in place since 1942. It’s not a “rule” or a “policy”. It’s black letter law.

It might just seem new, because the cocksuckers in government have been derelict in their duty to the law, their oath, and their personal conduct in the performance of those duties.
Posted by: Common Tater
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What's the deal with the Green Card ?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (/lPRQ)

233 I suppose we should wait for the final “deal” with Iran to be announced, but it doesn’t seem like a deal at all. A “promise” to give up nuclear material, and to not charge tolls in the Strait. The latter was never even part of the conversation, but I guess we’ve now ceded Iran that power. Now they also want Israel to cease operations with Hezballah.

So basically the regime and their terror ops stay in place, and they promise to give up their nuclear ambitions.

That doesn’t sound like a deal. It sounds like someone selling bullshit.

Posted by: Vengeance at May 24, 2026 03:02 PM (oAqqA)

234 Blame the Naive Believers like Mitt Romney. Rand Paul. Thomas Massey. All the fucks out in the street throwing bricks off a new pallet.

Blame Ronnie Reagan.

Blame Ideology. And the inability to critically think why that Ideology should not be blindly followed.

Frankly ? Blame yourself, Dildo. Because you have more than a little Ideology baked into your little WorldView.

Posted by: Screw the Nood at May 24, 2026 03:03 PM (KDOLa)

235 Bravely posting AFTER nood is called.

So brave!! Fight the Power!!

Posted by: Nood the Screw at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (sAmhv)

236 What's the deal with the Green Card ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:00 PM (/lPRQ)


They have to go back their home country and wait for their green card application to be processed. No more student visa to OPT to H1-B to green card to citizenship pipeline, without ever setting foot in the third-world shithole that spawned them. They have to actually live as adults in the land that spawned them, not just visit for a wedding or a sick relative, and they are *big mad* about it.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:12 PM (Sy6m/)

237 They have to go back their home country and wait for their green card application to be processed. No more student visa to OPT to H1-B to green card to citizenship pipeline, without ever setting foot in the third-world shithole that spawned them. They have to actually live as adults in the land that spawned them, not just visit for a wedding or a sick relative, and they are *big mad* about it.
Posted by: SciVo

OK,

Yes, for a while they were letting anybody on any visa "adjust status" while physically present in the US. This is only allowed on a few types of Visas - primarily the "immigrant" Visas which obviously allow conversion to LPR. All the others, it was never an option.

One could arguably revoke LPR/green cards for all those people because it was done in violation of law.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 03:32 PM (/lPRQ)

238 So brave!! Fight the Power!!

Posted by: Nood the Screw at May 24, 2026 03:11 PM (sAmhv)


Or I could say what ? The thread where he talks about how the stupid kitchen appliance doesn't work ? Or the thread where the food isn't just right ?

Posted by: Screw the Nood at May 24, 2026 04:33 PM (KDOLa)

239 What is this nonsense? Nicholas Kristof is most certainly to blame for his own shitty writings. At a certain point, grown men and women must be accountable for their own conduct and can't blame it all on dear old mum and nazi dad.

Posted by: AMartel at May 24, 2026 06:40 PM (otvi3)

240 31 How can someone as spectacularly stupid--or foolish--get such a prominent platform? Does he have a gift for saying stupid things well?
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Consider Kamala Harris, or AOC. --Mike Hammer

Or Chuckie Schumer, or JB Pritzker, or mayor of chitcongo Brandon Johnson, or Elizabeth Warren, or Gavin Newsom, or Karen Bass, or Nancy Pelosi, or Colbert, or Kimmel, or Stewart, or that dipshit socialist female mayor of Seattle, or Tim Walz, or Telarico, or Jasmine Crockett, or Ilhan Omar, or Rashida Tlaib, or Ayanna Pressley, or...now that I think of it, are there ANY Democrats who are NOT morons?

Posted by: sf at May 24, 2026 10:11 PM (hohh4)

Book Thread: May 24th, 2026[Sabrina Chase]

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Welcome to the Book Thread, Guest Poster edition! I will be your host as we explore all sorts of book-related topics. All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.) with the special Sabrina Chase exemption for those stylish persons preferring kilts. Now let us proceed to today's topic, which is ...

Reading Aloud

Last post we explored the various physical forms a book can take, and for this one, books in non-physical form. Audiobooks, spoken word, or simply reading aloud, to yourself or an audience. The act of speaking, of hearing instead of seeing the words, creates a different mental process. It slows things down, forces you to really think about the words instead of skimming to the next exciting bit. Which is why new authors are encouraged to read their own works aloud when doing the final polish. Your humble poster is embarassed to admit how many missing verbs were detected with this process! Or realizing the hero's hair had changed color somewhere between Chapter 3 and Chapter 5, or...

It's also a good way to get the love of reading started in kids who haven't learned how yet. You realize there are all kinds of fun stories in those paper things, and when no adult has time to read your favorite book another eleventy-billion times, you learn how your own self! This happened to me. I was read to by my father when I was a very small Moron-in-training. We went through the entire Little House on the Prarie series. I suspect I learned to read rather than wait for Dad to get home to find out what happened next.

The next step is for the young reader to practice by reading aloud themselves, but some kids worry about making mistakes or stumbling over new words. The good news is pets don't care if you make mistakes, and there are several programs that have kids read to shelter pets, which also helps the animals adjust to humans! The picture at the top comes from one of these programs. Some libraries have Reading Cats that can be requested to help young readers.

Audiobooks are increasing in popularity, and with the advent of AI voice generation, MUCH cheaper to produce! (Especially for us indie authors who don't have corporate backing.) A human-narrated book, average paperback length, runs about 11 hours of recording and around $4000 for a middling narrator. Doing it yourself is cheaper but takes a long time and you might not have the right voice. Readers like audiobooks for long drives, or doing chores, or going to sleep to. Some even switch from print to ebook to audio in the same book, depending on what is convenient at the time. Amazon caters to this by offering audiobook versions as a low cost add-on if a different version is purchased, and I've seen an increase in this kind of sale in my own books lately. Our motto is, the Reader is Always Right! So whatever option they want, I try to offer it.

Another version of audiobooks are radio programs. Back in the ancient times when NPR was not quite as rancidly woke as it is now, they had a program called The Radio Reader that started in 1964. Half an hour a day, the producer Dick Estell (who had a wonderful gravelly voice) would read popular novels. I listened to All Creatures Great and Small with that show.

Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?

(Currently reading: Sarah Hoyt's latest book Witch's Daughter (and enjoying it...))

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1 Read a pre-Great War story, “Jimmy of the Tigers,” by Courtney Ryley Cooper. Published in “The Popular” magazine on June 7th of 1913.
It’s the story of a traveling carnival and gambling den and the people who inhabit them. The owner, Shifty Bill, describes himself as a straight crook and decries “crooked crooks” like the sheriffs the owner pays off to ignore the illicit gaming.
Jimmy, his tiger act tells him he might not make a late performance, and Bill thinks it’s a lie to meet a girl. Bill tells him to show up, or else. Jimmy comes up missing before the last show, but arrives just in time, in a disheveled state. He does the show, and the crooked sheriff shows up. He had arrested Jimmy for embezzlement, but the tiger tamer broke jail. The sheriff was hotter about the break than the crime, but let Jimmy go under the threat of Bill exposing the lawman at election time.
It’s an interesting read on carny life and the people who lived it. The story’s available to read at pulpmags.org.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:01 AM (1Ff7Z)

2 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:02 AM (Ia/+0)

3 Can't wait to eat this tender little boy!

Posted by: The Kitteh at May 24, 2026 09:03 AM (RIvkX)

4 I literally can't remember not knowing how to read. My earliest memory is related to something I'd read about.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:03 AM (LcbzL)

5 Yet, barely moved on Carl v. Clauswitz's On War mostly because been watching war movies all week

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (Ia/+0)

6 Reading aloud is excellent for brain health and longevity.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (RIvkX)

7 Greetings, O Book Thread!
I haz a news. Yes, my probation has been lifted! You are stuck with me!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (vAQDP)

8 Cats ever learn to read like Ben we are in trouble

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:05 AM (Ia/+0)

9 Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?

No, not really. Can't remember when I started to read on my own. Don't remember the books either, though most likely they were Dr. Suess and others of the kind. I do remember a kids book by Bennett Cerf that we had. My first introduction to the man, then re-runs of What's My Line?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:06 AM (1Ff7Z)

10 Yet, barely moved on Carl v. Clauswitz's On War mostly because been watching war movies all week
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (Ia/+0)

Who do you think will win? Carl or Clauswitz?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:07 AM (1Ff7Z)

11 Morning, Sabrina.

Howdy, Horde.

4K for a middling narrator, eh? Ouch. And since I had the teeth evicted for constant misbehavior I don't read as well as I used to. If I ever finish current projects or decide to do an audiobook of the older novel, looks like AI voice generated will be it.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l)

12 4 I literally can't remember not knowing how to read. My earliest memory is related to something I'd read about.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:03 AM
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Go, dog, go!
Are you my mother?
One fish, two fish. Red fish, blue fish.

Thanks mom.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (2Ez/1)

13 All usual Book Thread rules are incorporated by reference (pets, beverage, clothing covering the lower limbs, etc.)
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Cat ✅
Coffee✅
Pants✅

I'm within parameters this morning.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (kpS4V)

14 Can't remember being read to or taught to read. Also can't remember ever not being able to read. Is a puzzlement.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (q3u5l)

15 Finished Douglas Murray's Democracy and Death Cults and found it very surface, like a long news article. It was enjoyable but I wish he went more in-depth.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (RIvkX)

16 I would be a little surprised if anyone didn't have a adult read to them at least before they learned to read or in progress of learning.
But would say I started out early on my own and never stopped.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (Ia/+0)

17 Good Sunday morning, horde!

What a sweet picture up there. And it seems like a great program.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 09:09 AM (h7ZuX)

18 This past week, I finished reading "Treasure Island." Twice. First as the original novel, seconds as a comic book adaptation.

The original novel...is very ramble-y. Characters make their point, and then continue speaking for another 3 lines. Also, far too much of the plot consists of Jim Hawkins doing something horribly irresponsible, for no apparent reason whatsoever, and then having everything work out because of it. It's no surprise that most movie adaptations tend to change events to justify or even cut out these adventures...

Speaking of movies, there are two movie adaptations that I'm very familiar with, and it's funny that both of them re-imagine Mr. Arrow as a competent, noble officer, instead of the worthless drunk that he was in the novel. Also, both adaptations combine the roles of Dr. Livesly and Squire Trelawney, but one movie keeps the Doctor, while the other one keeps the Squire...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (3v7ra)

19 Morning, Book People!

Currently I'm about halfway through Jean Plaidy's 1966 Royal Sisters, about the palace intrigues swirling around Princess (later Queen) Anne of England -- the daughter of James II, who was the brother of Charles II. It was Anne's sister Mary who became William's wife and is the "William and Mary" of our American university.

Plaidy (aka Victoria Holt) keeps the story moving with dialog and necessary exposition. She doesn't describe the rooms where activity takes place, and only rarely what people are wearing. So you have to use your imagination, recall some "royal apartments" sets from movies, or search online if you want to know what Sarah Churchill (Anne's "friend," actually an intriguer behind the throne) might be wearing, for instance.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (wzUl9)

20 4K for a middling narrator, eh? Ouch. And since I had the teeth evicted for constant misbehavior I don't read as well as I used to. If I ever finish current projects or decide to do an audiobook of the older novel, looks like AI voice generated will be it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (q3u5l)

JSG, maybe your voice would work in a western. Every western has an old miner in it. Gabby Hayes for the win.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (1Ff7Z)

21 Continuing to read historian Adrian Goldsworthy's new book, " Athens and Sparta". Finishing the chapter on Solon the lawgiver. Next up: Sparta's origins and early history.

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (lJ0H4)

22 My oldest son and his wife read aloud to each other. They switch roles with every chapter.

Audiobooks were a boon to me when I had a job that required a long commute and Rush had died. The only problem was that I had to stop in the middle of a chapter when I reached my destination.

I also read Amazing Spider-Man comic books to oldest son when he was little. I quickly learned how to winnow Stan Lee's excessive verbiage.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (8pIvk)

23 I read A Soldier in the Great War by Mark Helprin. In Italy, Alessandro, a white-haired professor of aesthetics, unexpectedly finds himself on the road with an illiterate factory worker. As they walk the forty miles to Monte Prado, tells his life story to his seventeen-year-old companion; especially about the years spent in the Italian army during World War I. It's a captivating story, rich in details and with memorable characters.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (VOrDg)

24 Booken norgen horden.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (gDlxJ)

25 My grandmother taught me to read at age 3 or 4 by reading to me. She would trace the words in the sentences with her finger, and stop periodically at a word, and I would say it. As time went by, she had me saying more and more words until I was reading the entire story.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (0U5gm)

26 "Another version of audiobooks are radio programs."
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Call me.

Yours truly,

Posted by: Johnny Dollar at May 24, 2026 09:12 AM (2Ez/1)

27 I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.

It is The Secret Chord, by Geraldine Brooks. I had read The People of the Book, by the same author, and it was good. I had high hopes for this story of King David.

Early in the book, other characters claimed he buggered his sheep. Then, Jonathan visited him in his tent in the middle of the night for a homo romp. I was done. So sick of this nonsense.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 09:13 AM (h7ZuX)

28 I think if I tried to read to our friendly cat -- the other one stays aloof -- that she would crawl onto the book.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:14 AM (8pIvk)

29 Finishing up "Pax" by English historian Tom Holland, the subtitle of which is: "War and Peace in Rome's Golden Age." Holland's descriptions of the absolute lunacy of Rome's various emperors from Nero through Hadrian are pretty comical. How Rome managed to impose its "Peace" on the rest of the known world is pretty compelling. It's a wonder they were able to given the utter incompetence of most of their emperors.

Not sure what I'll pick up next. There are a couple new books in the Galaxy's Edge series I need to read ("The Betrayed," which is book 24. And "Escape from Red Eye," which is a new Tyrus Rechs backstory novel).

Oh, and OT early: Just picked up two tickets to Rush's November 9 Fifty Something Tour show in Tampa. They have a new drummer, Anita Nilles, from Deutschland. I'm taking my daughter who turns 19 today, as she loves them as much as I did when I was 19 in 1982. Thr tickets were surprisingly affordable.

Hello Book Worms!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 09:14 AM (/RHNq)

30 Booken norgen horden.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:11 AM (gDlxJ)
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Doop de boop de doop.

Posted by: Swedish Chef at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (RIvkX)

31 For the audio book fans.

Escape Pod episode 100: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov

https://escapepod.org/2007/04/05/
ep100-nightfall/

Thanks for the content Sabrina!

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (gC0g5)

32 OrangeEnt at 20 --

A fine idea, by cracky. If only I wrote westerns.

(Drinks more coffee. Curses as he realizes he forgot to spit out the wad of chewing tobacky first...)

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (q3u5l)

33 Also on my TBR pile: A collection of Asimov's early Robot stories, written with bridging material between them. Several I don't really remember, only "Runaround," "Liar," and "Little Lost Robot." The last in particular is a classic of mystery and suspense, with a logical solution worthy of any first-rank classic detective-story writer.

Also, a collection of Asimov's Nightfall and Other Stories, with intros from IA describing how they came to be written; the second in S.M. Stirling's series about an Earthlike Venus and Mars in the late 20th Century; and something called Sex With Kings by Eleanor Herman. This last is subtitled "500 Years of Adultery, Power, Rivalry, and Revenge." I think that pretty much describes what the book is about!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (wzUl9)

34 Read last week: Wolf Worm by T Kingfisher.

Reading / Listening to Crouchback by Sarah Woodbury, which is part of the Welsh Guard mystery series

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (T5m6M)

35 Thanks for the Sunday Morning Book Thread, Sabrina!

Enjoyable, as always. I don't recall ever being read to as a child, but once I learned to read, I never stopped or slowed down!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 24, 2026 09:16 AM (D/6p1)

36 Got a stack of those stalwarts of the olde spinrack, the Ballantine's Illustrated History of the Violent Century. Like the venerable series "The World at War", they were written with events occurring within living memory. I'm reading "Their Finest Hour: the Story of the Battle of Britain 1940". The author, Edward Bishop, was a teenaged volunteer messenger in the Home Guard and saw the battle raging overhead.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:16 AM (kpS4V)

37 My grandmother taught me to read at age 3 or 4 by reading to me. She would trace the words in the sentences with her finger, and stop periodically at a word, and I would say it. As time went by, she had me saying more and more words until I was reading the entire story.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026


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I don't remember clearly, but I'm 99% sure that was how I learned to parse out those "little bugs on the paper" as well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:17 AM (wzUl9)

38 Yay Book Thread!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:17 AM (ZOv7s)

39 The act of speaking, of hearing instead of seeing the words, creates a different mental process. It slows things down, forces you to really think about the words instead of skimming to the next exciting bit.
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Makes a huge difference with Shakespeare.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:17 AM (RIvkX)

40 There is a clear trend line from socialism to communism to anarchism to terrorism. The trail leads from Rousseau to modern day leftist movements. In The Dynamite Club, John Merriman traces the history of how leftist politics turned to terror in the western world.

While the book focuses on Emile Henry, who bombed a restaurant in Paris in 1894, it covers the broad history of the political movement that is still a threat to society. Beginning in the 1840s, Proudhoun, Kropotkin, and Bakunin moved the left from mere commentary to action towards destroying society in order to rebuild it to their ideal, where owning property was theft.

Emile Henry was a young man with a troubled past, whose socialist father had been exiled after the Paris Commune. In 1894, realizing the difficulty of blowing up Sacre Coeur Cathedral, he tried to bomb the Carmeaux Mining Company headquarters, then decided to bomb a restaurant, to strike a blow against the middle class. He killed several and injured dozens more. At his trial, he proudly admitted to his guilt and choosing that locale in order to kill the most bourgeoisie possible. As he approached the guillotine, he shouted "Long live anarchy!"

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:18 AM (0U5gm)

41 Still chugging through "Zone One" by Colson Whitehead.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (kpS4V)

42 I read a comic book adaptation of "Treasure Islands;" a six-issue mini-series from 2007. It was 'written' by Roy Thomas, who seemly just went through the original novel with a highlighter. I'll bet 90% of the comic's dialogue and narration were direct quotes from the novel. Considering how most modern adaptation treat the source material (just look at the current discussions about "The Odessey") this kind of fidelity is downright refreshing.

As for the art...well, the artist can draw convincingly weathered sailors, but that's the only good thing I can say. Jim Hawkins looks like a midget as often as he looks like a child. Dr. Livesly looks like a character from the 1940's, rather than the 1740's, and has no wig, despite said wig being mentioned in the dialogue. And most egregiously, the artist decided to draw a woman as part the Hispaniola's crew. Congratulations; you have successfully added 'diversity' to the crew. And, thinking about the actual events of the story, your new diverse character gets to die horribly, probably after being [mistreated] by a dozen drunken, violent, and mutinous pirates. What a great addition to the story...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (3v7ra)

43 I think if I tried to read to our friendly cat -- the other one stays aloof -- that she would crawl onto the book.
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026


***
My menage is similar. Stirling, the more sociable one, would probably drift off to sleep. ("Cats have many ailments . . . but I never yet knew one to be afflicted with insomnia.")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (wzUl9)

44
Non-book questions this morning:

Why would Thomas Massie be appearing on "Meet the Press"?

What kind of drugs is Kristen Welker on?

Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (Y8DZL)

45 >>Can't remember being read to or taught to read.

Don't remember being read to or taught to read, either, but must at least have been the former, because I do remember a Saturday morning at my grandmother's house when, all of a sudden, the squiggles on the page became words. Shortly after turning 4.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 09:20 AM (NcvvS)

46 It's hodgepodge time in Geekland. I'm skipping among two comics collections and one novel.

The comics are reprints of Alex Raymond's "Flash Gordon" comic strips from the 1930s throught early '40s and a hardback collection of the first three years of Mike Grell's 1970s DC comic "The Warlord." The book is "Neon Empire," a Nate Heller crime adventure by Max Allan Collins.

The Heller series mixed fictional characters, such as Heller, who runs a private investigation agency in Chicago, with real people, such as Jake "Greasy Thumb" Guzik, the chief money man for what became the Chicago Outfit. The story thus far: Heller is hired to bodyguard the operator of a racetrack winners reporting service (another real person: James Ragen) who is under pressure to sell out to Guzik. Ragen is seriously wounded in a South Side ambush. Guzik disavows any role in the hit and instead blames Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, a gambling kingpin out West. Siegel? "Neon Empire"? Could this be ... Las Vegas? (According to the back cover, yes.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (8pIvk)

47 I made sure to thank my mom on Mother’s Day for instilling in me a love of reading. I learned to read at an early age and have looked back. It’s one of my greatest joys in life.

Posted by: Perfessor Sqiurrel at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (9DV3O)

48 I remember wanting to know very much how to read, when watching my father reading Mad Magazine and laughing ... and I wanted very much to know what was in that magazine which amused him so very much. A little later, Mom found a regular radio program - I think from the BBC (Which I thought then stood for Baby Book Company) with the musical theme of Golliwog's Cakewalk - and a narrator who read "My Side of the Mountain" - which my brother and I adored so much that Mom bought a copy of it for us. Later on, when I could read chapter books, it was the Little House on the Prairie series. Much, much later - I read all of Lord of the Rings to my little brother, and then to my daughter. It took a year or so each time at a chapter a night, and both Little Bro and the Daughter unit adored that series. Just about every chapter ends on a cliffhanger... Little Bro could talk like a hobbit by the time we were done. He also dressed like a hobbit for Halloween that year.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (Ew3fm)

49 Some even switch from print to ebook to audio in the same book, depending on what is convenient at the time.

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I like doing this
So helpful with strange names- audio shows how to pronounce them (a minor setting point in the Welsh Guard mysteries) and text shows how to spell them.
Also text is better for details like lists and such.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 24, 2026 09:22 AM (nLlkW)

50 Why would Thomas Massie be appearing on "Meet the Press"?

What kind of drugs is Kristen Welker on?
Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM (Y8DZL)
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You will in short order soon see Massie on Tucker, Megyn, etc.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:22 AM (RIvkX)

51 Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?

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One of my Mom's favorite stories was of me coming from my first day of First Grade, crying because they hadn't taught me how to read.

Made up for lost time, though.

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 09:22 AM (rj6Yv)

52 I do not enjoy AI generated voice narration. It is too monotone and artificial. A bad narration can make me abandon a book. I've been reading 2 books at a time lately. One I read on my kindle and one I listen to while driving, cooking, doing chores, working, etc. I only "read" in bed so being able to listen to a book while doing other things has expanded my reading experience.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (VCgbV)

53 JSG, I saw how you spotted the author and even the book ("a 60-year-old detective novel") which was the source of Weird Dave's quote abut friendship on Friday's ONT. I should have known you would. I knew it was MacDonald, one of the Travis McGees, but not which one!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (wzUl9)

54 Morning, all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (qRla/)

55 We had to read aloud and recite at school at an early age. (Also Catholic school so by 2nd grade learned prayers for 1st Communion and Reconciliation) 1sr grade (still have report card) I needed to practice reading. Thanks to that it began going to our library and coming home with a pile of books. My Mom read and we had a den full of all kinds of books, pleasure, encyclopedia, works of Shakespeare, identifying rocks etc so we had a huge mix of books with which to explore whenever we wanted. That and curiosity really shaped my reading. Finished reading The List of Suspicious Things. Reminded me a little of hanging and walking to school with my best friend and growing up. It’s a bit of a sad book too but in the end a full circle ending. A bit messy like life.

Posted by: Hyacinth at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (7x3MF)

56 Currently reading Flashfire, #19 of the 24 Donald Westlake/Richard Stark Parker series and still enjoying the hell out of them. But some time this week, I'll finish them. So what to do next? MacDonald's Travis McGee novels? The other MacDonald's Lew Archers? Or take another run at Bleak House? Or maybe, just maybe, even try to write something.

Decisions, decisions.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (q3u5l)

57 @29 --

I'm going to one of the Fort Worth concerts next month. Also going to hit a couple of Half Price Books shops although I nothing to buy. (That ties this post into the Book Thread.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (8pIvk)

58 "Another version of audiobooks are radio programs."
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Call me.

Yours truly,
Posted by: Johnny Dollar
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Been listening to a Bob and Ray soap opera compilation in the car for weeks. Mary Backstage, Noble Wife mostly.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (XvL8K)

59 Finishing up "Pax" by English historian Tom Holland, the subtitle of which is: "War and Peace in Rome's Golden Age." Holland's descriptions of the absolute lunacy of Rome's various emperors from Nero through Hadrian are pretty comical.

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There were a lot of lunatics. But not all of them. Hadrian's predecessor (Trajan) and successor (Antoninus Pius) were both very stable geniuses - the latter has my vote for greatest emperor in Rome's history, against prevailing opinion.

I would also argue that Hadrian was no lunatic, but he was among my least respected emperors.

He was a rootless cosmopolitan pederast, who openly disdained Rome and Italy. To such an extent that he rarely so much as visited the peninsula during his reign. He strongly preferred to travel among the Eastern provinces, indulging in their mystery cults and frolicking gaily with his precious boys while he elevated the Empire's foreign subjects at every turn.

As an American, I'm far too familiar with being lorded over by globalist pedophile homos who hate me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (BI5O2)

60 I was an early reader. I can't recall not reading. Favorite books (which I still have) are The Lorax and Cars and Trucks and Things That Go.

Now on Book 3 of City of God. I'm taking it slow because it is pretty heavy stuff. Glad I read so much Roman histories in high school and college, otherwise I'd be getting a lot less out of it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

61 I have always preferred books to audio, as I can pace better, but when the kids were young and we had road trips to undertake, we picked up several audio books to keep them occupied. We bought Peter Nimble as well as all of the Narnia books by C.S. Lewis, among others. Now, when I find a decent audio book, I will grab it and put it on a memory stick to have handy for the next long trip.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:26 AM (0U5gm)

62 Visiting NYC this weekend so of course we had to stop at the Strand Bookstore. They've still got racks of discount books on the sidewalk -- though now they're $3-7 rather than $1 like on my first visit. Still the closest thing America has to the old bookstalls in Turin or along the Seine in Paris. (I wonder if any of those still exist?)

Scored a copy of Fridjof Nansen's memoir Farthest North, about his Arctic expeditions, and a copy of The Surprise of Cremona by Edith Templeton, a great piece of 1950s travel writing, still in print after more than half a century.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:26 AM (LcbzL)

63 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:26 AM (yTvNw)

64 Why would Thomas Massie be appearing on "Meet the Press"?

What kind of drugs is Kristen Welker on?
Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 09:19 AM
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Why do people still watch television?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at May 24, 2026 09:27 AM (2Ez/1)

65 In my never-ending quest to find cool comic books that aren't super-hero themed, I stumbled across something both unexpected and unsurprising; a bunch of "Marvel Illustrated" branded mini-series from the late 00's. I call this 'unexpected' because I figured that at that time period, Marvel wouldn't be interested in anything other than their own super-heroes. But I also call it 'unsurprising' because these are adaptations of classic (public domain) novels; Moby Dick, Treasure Island (see my previous comments) Three Musketeers, and the like. These stories have been adapted hundreds of times, so it can't be surprising to see one more company take a shot at them. And while I'd prefer to see some original stories in these settings/time periods, I'm happy to take what I can get...

...Also, as I glance back at it, I see that the Treasure Island comic is rated 'Teen+'. Really? No swearing and no gore and it's still Teen+? For what? The skeleton? And people think the old Comics Code Authority was stringent....

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (3v7ra)

66 Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?

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I seem to recall something in my first-grade schoolroom library called Space Cat Goes to Mars!

I went off to school already knowing how to read. One day about two weeks into first grade, my teacher asked me to stay behind after 3:00. "Oops," I thought, "I'm in trouble, but for what?"

She sat me down and said quietly, "Wolfus, you already know how to read, don't you?" "Sure," I said -- I'd thought everybody did. Knowing what I know about schools vs. parents now, I suspect there were some recriminations directed at Mom. As for me, I got a field promotion to second grade that month, and moved on (after some testing) to third the next year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (wzUl9)

67 Veapasian was good but he came up the ranks marcus aurelius a century later

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (bXbFr)

68 I do not enjoy AI generated voice narration.

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (VCgbV)
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The audiobook I did for Battle Officer Wolf hasn't sold any copies, but neither has any other version of the book. It's been out for a while, so not surprising.

The benefit of the machine reader is that it is hugely helpful in editing, and since it is free, I will be using it for each additional book and probably going back to do revised editions of published material.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (ZOv7s)

69 What is this meet the press you speak of

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (bXbFr)

70 I love that top photo. Reminds me of our great nephew who just turned seven. His dad describes him as a reading machine (when he's not playing baseball) and he likes reading to his little brothers and, probably, their dogs.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (yTvNw)

71 >>Why do people still watch television?

NCIS reruns. oh, you meant, 'TV "news"'?

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 09:29 AM (NcvvS)

72 Like most of you, I don't remember not being able to read. But I also don't remember anyone reading to me. From the little I remember of my childhood, no-one in my family really read anything other than newspapers. Grandmother read, but she was also deaf, so read of necessity. My great-uncle was a reader, but also a devout Catholic, so his books were mostly pre-Vatican II devotionals and theological works.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:30 AM (qRla/)

73 So what to do next? MacDonald's Travis McGee novels? The other MacDonald's Lew Archers? Or take another run at Bleak House? Or maybe, just maybe, even try to write something.

Decisions, decisions.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026


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Miss Linda asked about you last night and wondered if you'v ever read the Ed McBain "87th Precinct" series. If you haven't, he wrote a *lot* of them and they are all solid. My personal favorite is one called Ghosts, which features his "lead" detective, Steve Carella.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:31 AM (wzUl9)

74 Don't forget Aurelian!

Too late. Everybody forgets Aurelian.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:31 AM (LcbzL)

75 Mao's Army Goes to Sea is languishing. It is a disappointment. So much padding, so little substance. I might attempt to plow through it today because I think I'm finally at the actual "book" part of the book, as opposed to the forward, introduction, statement of scope, backstory, background, digression on the PLA's administrative systems, etc.

Also, the writer uses a very pedestrian style. Only hard-core China military history addicts should bother with it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:32 AM (ZOv7s)

76 27 I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 09:13 AM (h7ZuX)

Oh, that's serious. It takes a lot for someone on this treat to go that far....But, from the rest of your comment, yeah, it seems justified.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:33 AM (3v7ra)

77 We twigged to one of our children *memorizing* the books and then *pretending* to read aloud as she turned the pages.

Posted by: DavidD at May 24, 2026 09:34 AM (MSTeU)

78 I went off to school already knowing how to read. One day about two weeks into first grade, my teacher asked me to stay behind after 3:00. "Oops," I thought, "I'm in trouble, but for what?"

She sat me down and said quietly, "Wolfus, you already know how to read, don't you?" "Sure," I said -- I'd thought everybody did. Knowing what I know about schools vs. parents now, I suspect there were some recriminations directed at Mom. As for me, I got a field promotion to second grade that month, and moved on (after some testing) to third the next year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


I had the same experience. I do recall one teacher, probably third grade, being very angry that I would read extra books and not write a book report on every one. The teacher put in my report card that I would be a failure in life.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:34 AM (0U5gm)

79 Tell us so we dont pick up accidentally

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:34 AM (bXbFr)

80 As far as reading this week, I haven't done much that wasn't 1920s related. Still making my way through Ten Restaurants That Changed America, but it's a book that makes me hungry, so I have to go slowly. Right now, I am on a chapter about the Mandarin, a San Fran place that introduced high-level Chinese dining to Americans.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (qRla/)

81 I learned to read Bam! Pow! and Zowie! watchin Batman.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (RIvkX)

82 Veapasian was good but he came up the ranks marcus aurelius a century later
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (bXbFr)

Vespasian was good. Titus was good. Domitian was an asshole, but gets a worse rep than he earned. Nerva was fine.

I think the horror of the Julio-Claudians, particularly by comparison to Augustus, gives both their contemporaries and historians a tendency to judge Roman emperors perhaps more harshly than they always deserved. The Flavians and Antonines were pretty good, on balance.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (BI5O2)

83 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:35 AM (qRla/)

iirc they invented the Fortune cookie?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 09:36 AM (RIvkX)

84 Did you know there was another Bill Nye? Edgar Wilson "Bill" Nye was a humorist in the later 1800s that had this to say about George Washington:

"In conclusion, let me say that George Washington was successful for three reasons. One was that he never shook the confidence of his friends. Another was that he had a strong will without being a mule. Some people cannot distinguish between being firm and being a big blue jackass.

Another reason why Washington is loved and honored today is that he died before we had a chance to get tired of him. This is greatly superior to the method adopted by many modern statesmen, who wait till their constituency weary of them and then reluctantly and tardily die."

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 09:36 AM (vFG9F)

85 "who"

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 09:37 AM (vFG9F)

86 33 Also on my TBR pile: ... the second in S.M. Stirling's series about an Earthlike Venus and Mars in the late 20th Century;

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:15 AM (wzUl9)

Was that the book set on Mars? Or was there a second one set on Venus? I remember reading 1 Venus book, then 1 Mars book, and then I never returned to the series...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:37 AM (3v7ra)

87 And as for my own work, I finished the editing draft of my new Theda Bara novel, and am slowly making my way through it. I spent last Friday reading the first half aloud to my writing partner / muse, looking for her thoughts. We'll be going through the second half this week, and then, after I've made changes, will be asking for some beta readers.

I wanted to have the book out by Bara's birthday at the end of July, but I don't know if I'll make it. Not that I have hordes of fans begging me for the book, anyway.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:37 AM (qRla/)

88 Yes im painting with a broad brush but there were msny mediocre emperors the same with the byzantines

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (bXbFr)

89 Just finished 'Flying Lessons" by a passed away grade school friend. Scott Grange.
I enjoyed it. As a novel. But being based on a real story I have issues.
It should be the real story. I would have loved to have been able to proofread this for Scott. Two mistakes is all but I would have recommended dropping the whole pretence of it being based on a real story. There are things invented out of whole cloth inserted into a real incident that needs no help being facinating. D-Day.
The reader is left wondering how much is real.
I'm going to spend a little time figuring that out. Particularly the villian. His story is almost too much to believe as made up.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (594J6)

90 ...Also, as I glance back at it, I see that the Treasure Island comic is rated 'Teen+'. Really? No swearing and no gore and it's still Teen+? For what? The skeleton? And people think the old Comics Code Authority was stringent....
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026


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Skeletons were all over the books I read as a pre-teen. The Hardy Boys, for instance; there's at least one with the word in the title, The Skeleton in the Clock (?) (or "the Armoire," or something).

The opening chapter of my favorite Roy Rogers story of that time, The Ghost of Mystery Rancho, has a skeleton in a chair in the entryway of an abandoned mission, arranged as a booby trap. A sheriff steps on the threshold and wires trigger the loaded pistols in the bony hands of the skeleton, killing the lawman. And motivating young Texas Ranger Roy to avenge his friend and find out who this masked and murderous bandit is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (wzUl9)

91 One of my kids kept learning to read a secret from us, apparently out of concern that it might result in no more story reading at bedtime. We learned of the ruse when the kid's kindergarten teacher complained that the kid was secretly reading during mandatory naptime. I was very proud.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (LcbzL)

92 Let us not forget one source of developing a reader -- newspaper comic strips. Dad would sit in his chair with me on one side and my sister on the other and read "the funnies" to us, using different voices and adding his own laughter or commentary ("That wasn't very funny.").

And in fifth and sixth grade -- small school, both classes in one room -- our teacher would read aloud to us. Why she chose "Island of Blue Dolphins" is something I don't know.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (8pIvk)

93 My mom barely ever saw the inside of a college classroom, but she sure knew how to wear out a library card.

She had a rocking chair and a screen porch where she devoured an endless stream of paperbacks, Newsweek magazines every week cover to cover (hey, it was the 70s), a wealthy neighbor's Wall Street Journal (passed along a day late) and even her small hometown's newspaper which would arrive in the mail.

And a lot of cigarettes.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (2Ez/1)

94 In other book-related news, I shifted a bookcase from the Great Room to the Petit Shrine (the old formal dining room). Quite the logistical undertaking, and I am very sore this morning. It is now ensconced next to two other bookcases bought a year ago at an estate sale that match it in size, color and style. When I am mobile again, I will be shifting the books to create a more thematic arrangement.

Hitherto, many of the book have been put where they fit. I am now rationalizing the collection, and of course removing works that I haven't read, won't read, or don't even know how they got on the shelf (a non-trivial amount). Earlier efforts produced the China Reference Area, which combines all works pertaining to China, which had hitherto been split between Kids' Stories, military history, general history, and philosophy. Now it's all in one easy to find place.

I intend to create a dedicated space for Tolkien, which is something of a challenge given the varied size of the books, but a core concept is that not all books need to be on display. The spare copies of LotR, for example, can be elsewhere.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:39 AM (ZOv7s)

95 As an American, I'm far too familiar with being lorded over by globalist pedophile homos who hate me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 24, 2026 09:25 AM (BI5O2)

This too is the story of Barak Obama.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:39 AM (1Ff7Z)

96 33 Also on my TBR pile: ... the second in S.M. Stirling's series about an Earthlike Venus and Mars in the late 20th Century;

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026
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Was that the book set on Mars? Or was there a second one set on Venus? I remember reading 1 Venus book, then 1 Mars book, and then I never returned to the series...
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The first, The Sky People, was on Venus. This one, In the Courts of the Crimson Kings, is set on Mars.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:39 AM (wzUl9)

97 Tom holland is very good mary beard is afflicted with presentism

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:40 AM (bXbFr)

98 Yes im painting with a broad brush but there were msny mediocre emperors the same with the byzantines

It's a living.

- - Galba

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:41 AM (qRla/)

99 I had the same experience. I do recall one teacher, probably third grade, being very angry that I would read extra books and not write a book report on every one. The teacher put in my report card that I would be a failure in life.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026


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Oh, we were told in fifth grade *not* to take our readers home and read ahead. So naturally I did just that and was bored even more of the time in school than usual.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:42 AM (wzUl9)

100 I should probably mention that there is a wide range of AI audiobook narration. Some of it, particularly the early stuff, is indeed quite robotic. Amazon's Digital Voice, though, knows about sentence inflection and even does quite well on the made-up words that science fiction and fantasy employ. The best so far is ElevenLabs. You can *create* your own narration voice using prompts like with ChatGpt, and also tell it the narrator should shout, whisper, or be sarcastic. It sounds human.

I completely respect human narrators and their skills, and want to pay them what they are worth. But until I can EARN enough to pay them, AI is a good way to bootstrap and give readers the audio equivalent to a paperback.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 09:42 AM (vAQDP)

101 Dad would sit in his chair with me on one side and my sister on the other and read "the funnies" to us, using different voices and adding his own laughter or commentary ("That wasn't very funny.").


Posted by: Weak Geek



I used to do that when reading to my kids, changing voices with the characters, and adding in sound effects. I think it helped when they were very young.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:42 AM (0U5gm)

102 Yeah obama would have been a vsndsl emperor

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:43 AM (bXbFr)

103 Growing up, my sisters & I read a lot, my brother very little. Only later, when he did a lot of air travel for work, did he develop an interest in reading. Big on mysteries.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 09:43 AM (NcvvS)

104 Yeah he drew the short straw four that year

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:44 AM (bXbFr)

105 I was actually gobsmacked this past week to see a post on the Reactor blog (alias Tor.com) in which the author actually complained about the galloping presentism and anachronisms in a lot of contemporary "historical" media and literature. In the past that site has published various apologia for awkwardly shoehorning "women warriors" and diverse people of color into medieval Europe, so this is a real shocker. Even more shocking was the generally supportive tone of the comments.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 24, 2026 09:44 AM (LcbzL)

106 Oh, that's serious. It takes a lot for someone on this treat to go that far....But, from the rest of your comment, yeah, it seems justified.
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:33 AM (3v7ra)

I've only tossed one book in anger. GWB's book "Record of Accomplishment." After his remarks on President Trump, into the recycle bin it went.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 09:44 AM (1Ff7Z)

107 Island of Doctor Moreau. Some castaways are let loose in the tropics; Edward Prendick survives. This is cast as a memoir found adrift latitude 5° 3′ S x 101° W - so ten degrees west of Galapagos.
Imagine someone got to the Jurassic Park by accident and that's a fair summary of the intro.
Apparently there is a movie: Island of Lost Souls 1932. There's a catgirl. One of several reasons we got the Hayes Code. There are other movies but they are (somehow) cheesier.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 09:45 AM (1gmsy)

108 I do need to do some writing today, but also some reading. For a novel set in Hollywood, my book has precious little 'movie scenery' in it. I need to write a scene that shows a film being shot - which I can do off the top of my head - but also need to search through memoirs of early Hollywood to get a few details just right. So I will probably do more reading than writing at all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:45 AM (qRla/)

109 Yeah obama would have been a vsndsl emperor
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026


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I presume you meant "Vandal"?

Accused once in college by a girlfriend of being a "vandal" because I'd added some graffiti to a bathroom stall, I said proudly, "No, I'm a Visigoth!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:45 AM (wzUl9)

110 Veapasian was good but he came up the ranks marcus aurelius a century later
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:28 AM (bXbFr)
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The Roman military system frequently generated excellent emperors. The Crisis of the Second Century was solved by a series of soldier-emperors starting with Claudius II.

The Julio-Claudians get something of a bum rap because of the quality (and quantity) of writing about them from Rome. The picture in the provinces was entirely different, and a big part of why we know so much was that Tacitus was an exceptional Latin stylist, and his works were preserved because of that as much as their content.

St. Augustine is similarly treasured for the quality of his writing, which comes through in translation. Very readable, nice turns of phrase, though the translators stress that his use of rhyming and pacing does not cross over to English. I enjoy footnotes pointing out that certain phrases are masterpieces of Latin.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

111 I am very fond of Stirling's In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. He manages to make Martians understandable yet very alien. Also the line "Feral engines!" makes me giggle and sometimes I say it to recalcitrant devices. Why yes, I AM a nerd.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 09:47 AM (vAQDP)

112 Speaking of audio books, I must recommend the audio book of The Magician's Nephew read by Kenneth Branaugh. What a phenomenal narrator. He not only changes volume and speed to match the suspense, but he nails the characters and dialects of every character, even the minor ones. At some points, it is hard to imagine that one person is doing the reading.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:47 AM (0U5gm)

113 Usta look forward to the Sunday paper when the comics were in color. And of course everyone developed their own particular order of comic strip consumption, saving your favorite for last.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 09:48 AM (2Ez/1)

114 I'm persnickety about audiobooks. On long drives (which I don't have to do anymore, thank goodness) I preferred to play music, especially if I could sing along. Trying to follow a book while in traffic on the Penn Turnpike or I-90 was not a good combination.

But I have found some audiobooks that I love. The narrator can bring out aspects that I missed even on many rereadings. One example I've mentioned is Gary Sinise reading Steinbeck's Travels With Charly. It's wonderful and nuanced without being distractingly over the top.

I have several versions of LOTR on audio. Didn't care for the BBC production that is more like a stage play. It distracted me from the words. But the Rob Inglis and, even better, Andy Serkis versions are excellent: clear, emotive, and bring out aspects that I missed when reading. They are gems. Same for Derek Jacobi reading Voyage of the Dawn Trader from the Narnia series.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:48 AM (yTvNw)

115 Yes vandal

Visigoth had a possibility of being noble

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:49 AM (bXbFr)

116 Three Investigators book: "Mystery of the Talking Skull."

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:49 AM (8pIvk)

117 And in fifth and sixth grade -- small school, both classes in one room -- our teacher would read aloud to us. Why she chose "Island of Blue Dolphins" is something I don't know.
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:38 AM (8pIvk
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I remember my third and fourth grade teachers reading aloud to us. "James and the Giant Peach", "The Glass Slipper", and others.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (kpS4V)

118 40 There is a clear trend line from socialism to communism to anarchism to terrorism. The trail leads from Rousseau to modern day leftist movements. In The Dynamite Club, John Merriman traces the history of how leftist politics turned to terror in the western world.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 09:18 AM (0U5gm)

I remember when I first became aware of the anarchist-bombing movements of old. They made me irrationally angry. But they also made me smugly-satisfied, because that sort of foolishness was safely behind us, relegated to the dustbin of history. That was in the 2000's, when domestic troublemakers seemed far less relevant than home-grown ones. But now...glances at the headlines from last night...well, home-grown violence is back on the menu, it seems.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (3v7ra)

119 My first book that I can remember was Go Dog Go. Hell yeah I still have a copy. Mom taught me to read early, so I was reading before kindergarten. My birthday is late in the year, so I missed the cutoff for starting school and had to wait a year, but when they found out I reading when I started kindergarten they pulled my out and put my in first grade. I still have some of my earliest books. Yeah, Go Dog Go was my fav.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (snZF9)

120 Yeah obama would have been a vsndsl emperor
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:43 AM (bXbFr)
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Obama was closest to Honorius - did nothing to earn the job, hid his court, watched the Empire collapse around him, kept acting important anyway. Killed his best commanders due to palace intrigue.

You could argue that he might have been one of the late puppet emperors as well. He very clearly saw his role is guiding the US into decline and strategic irrelevance, and there's a pretty obvious parallel with settling barbarian tribes in the Empire, undermining its integrity.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

121 Many of the chronicler of the era tacitus plutarch cassius dio was pretty good

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:52 AM (bXbFr)

122 I remember my third and fourth grade teachers reading aloud to us. "James and the Giant Peach", "The Glass Slipper", and others.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (kpS4V)
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Library time was a mainstay of elementary school. One day a week we'd troop over to the library and the librarian or a parent volunteer would read a book to us. Lots of good books - Phantom Toll Booth, James and the Giant Peach - and then we had a few minutes at the end to check out a book.

I was always over at 940, picking out a war book.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:52 AM (ZOv7s)

123 For America 250 I'm reading The Daily Journals of the Lewis and Clark. All of the old Lewis and Clark public domain journal books are abridged with one ( major exception: Original Journals of the Lewis and Clark Expedition Volumes 1-8 by the American Philosophical Society 1904 unabridged. Each volume is approximately 380 pages.

The advantage of reading the journals versus condensed prose versions is pretty simple - mystery. L&C didn't know what tribe members or prairie topography they might encounter from day to day. They had hard ordinary days or sometimes ran across odd things: a 12 foot wide by 30 foot high fascine erected by Indians on an willow eyot, or the ruins of a strange fortress built by people unknown for reasons unknown.

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 09:53 AM (gC0g5)

124 He was the exception

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (bXbFr)

125 Raul is a cool cat.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (LHPAg)

126
The problem with AI reading is that is doesn't have the proper rhythm and emphasis for all types of novels.

F'rinstance a humorous novel would suffer hugely without the proper inflection and emphasis.

Same with an action novel or horror novel.

I imagine it would take a huge amount of tweaking to get an AI to sound correct.

Imagine a PG Wodehouse Jeeves and Bertie novel read flatly...yuck!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (iJfKG)

127 I also don't remember how I learned to read, just that I always could. My mother finished HS it my father didn't driving a truck for the family bakery. But there were a,ways newspapers, magazines and I could walk to the library where I had to get written permission to take books from the adult section.
Trying to finish book 5 in Pierce Brown's Red Rising series Dark Age for the 3rd time. It is a great book but easy to put down when current events take precedence. His battle scenes are so exciting as I root for the good guys to pull off a miraculous win which they lways do until.....

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 09:55 AM (kJmSS)

128 Library time was a mainstay of elementary school. One day a week we'd troop over to the library and the librarian or a parent volunteer would read a book to us. Lots of good books - Phantom Toll Booth, James and the Giant Peach - and then we had a few minutes at the end to check out a book.

I was always over at 940, picking out a war book.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026


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I faintly recall one title from our elementary school "library" (one room in the building) called Captain Apple's Ghost. Even at age nine, anything with a supernatural element got my attention.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:56 AM (wzUl9)

129 Sabrina,
Thanks for the thread today. You always bring an author's viewpoint most aren't aware of.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 09:56 AM (yTvNw)

130 Don't think Batmann taught me to read, but B.B. did teach me all I know about opera

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:57 AM (Ia/+0)

131 46 It's hodgepodge time in Geekland. I'm skipping among two comics collections and one novel.

The comics are reprints of Alex Raymond's "Flash Gordon" comic strips from the 1930s throught early '40s and a hardback collection of the first three years of Mike Grell's 1970s DC comic "The Warlord." The book is "Neon Empire," a Nate Heller crime adventure by Max Allan Collins.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 09:21 AM (8pIvk)

Only three books at once? Pft. (cut to the 'those are rookie numbers' meme-clip) What do you think of Warlord so far? I'm still paused in my reading of it. And the Flash Gordon strip...were those dailies, or Sunday pages? It's been a long time since I read a daily adventure strip. The three-panel pacing is...certainly a different sort of experience.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:58 AM (3v7ra)

132 Obama was closest to Honorius - did nothing to earn the job, hid his court, watched the Empire collapse around him, kept acting important anyway. Killed his best commanders due to palace intrigue.

I'd say Elagabalus. Petulant, childish, wasteful and devoted to an alien culture.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:58 AM (qRla/)

133 Don't think Batmann taught me to read, but B.B. did teach me all I know about opera
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026


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My mother said she started me out on comic books like Bugs Bunny and Porky Pig. She'd read the "big" words (not that there were many in a Dell comic) and I'd read the "little" ones. Before long, I was reading the "big" ones too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:59 AM (wzUl9)

134 American Thinker's audio is frustrating. I have to read the essay to confirm what I think I heard, thus defeating the purpose of the audio.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:00 AM (8pIvk)

135 I remember when I first became aware of the anarchist-bombing movements of old. They made me irrationally angry. But they also made me smugly-satisfied, because that sort of foolishness was safely behind us, relegated to the dustbin of history. That was in the 2000's, when domestic troublemakers seemed far less relevant than home-grown ones. But now...glances at the headlines from last night...well, home-grown violence is back on the menu, it seems.
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 09:50 AM (3v7ra)
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Marxism is a heresy, and a very old one at that. You see it pop up at various times in history under different names.

The modern version latched onto the Enlightenment and claimed to be secular ("scientific") but it's still just weaponized greed, envy, wrath and pride.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:00 AM (ZOv7s)

136 Wolfus (& Miss Linda) --

Yep, I've read the 87th Precinct books, and they were delightful. I may have missed some of the last ones that came out after we moved from Chicago to SE KS in late 85, though. That's a terrific series too -- can't remember reading a bad one. Another series ripe for a revisit. No longer have the hardcovers, but they're all on the Kindle waiting for my lazy kazoosis to open 'em up again.

His Evan Hunter novels aren't too dusty either. Blackboard Jungle and Last Summer are probably the best known but I'm kinda partial to Sons and Far from the Sea.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:01 AM (q3u5l)

137 You know, my younger sisters never developed the reading habit, the absolute necessity of books, that I did. I am also the only Comservative while,they are liberals in the worst sense of the word. 🤔

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 10:02 AM (kJmSS)

138 The cat is staring down at me from the back of the sofa as I read. It's disconcerting.

Blink, already!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 24, 2026 10:02 AM (kpS4V)

139 Also, a collection of Asimov's Nightfall and Other Stories...

Just my opinion -- because I know how important that is to you all -- but "Nightfall" is either the best SF short ever or tied for first with "Johnny Mnemonic."

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (vTZFs)

140 >>My birthday is late in the year, so I missed the cutoff for starting school and had to wait a year, but when they found out I reading when I started kindergarten they pulled my out and put my in first grade.

Opposite problem, here: birthday just before the cutoff date, (after start of school year). Parents were not going to sign off on sticking a 4-year-old into first grade.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (NcvvS)

141 Riouchas space opera leans heavily on Roman tropes

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (bXbFr)

142 I remember the Little Golden Books, and I could read before the first grade. There was no kindergarten. We had the Compton Encyclopedia at home early and I went through that pretty quick.
'A person who doesn't read is no better than a person who can't read.'
- Johnny Cash (I think)

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2026 10:04 AM (LHPAg)

143 I need to go back and reread some of my Poul Anderson collection. It's not huge, but I have The Star Fox, which I've mostly forgotten, The Trouble Twisters (three long short stories about the Polesotechnic League era), and his first, Brain Wave. I used to have a paperback copy of his War of the Wing-Men with a wonderful painting of one of the aliens featured in the story. The artist must actually have read the book, or at least enough to absorb Anderson's description.

Oh, and I have Anderson's The Book of Poul Anderson with various short and long stories, and his grand fantasy of a 20th-Century world run by magic, Operation Chaos.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:04 AM (wzUl9)

144 The problem with AI reading is that is doesn't have the proper rhythm and emphasis for all types of novels.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 09:54 AM (iJfKG)
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Amazon's isn't bad. You can put notes into the text and adjust tempo and such, and of course free. Obviously, a professional working on a great script can do more, but it is better than nothing for the budget-minded indie author.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:04 AM (ZOv7s)

145 Ruocchio marlowe series

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:05 AM (bXbFr)

146 @131 --

Castle Guy, they were Sunday strips. "Flash Gordon" didn't have a daily strip until after Raymond was drafted, which ended his work on the strip.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:05 AM (8pIvk)

147 Yes, read to your children, starting as an infant, and don't stop when they first learn to read. It was a nightly ritual up to somewhere in the age of 9 or 10. It not only helps reading skills, it builds speaking, vocabulary, and indirectly, writing ability. In addition to helping the kids in an academic way, it's a bonding time with them.

The only rough patch was when a book became a favorite. "Santa Claus and his Elves", every night... for several weeks... weeks, I tell you.

Posted by: George V at May 24, 2026 10:05 AM (HUbHH)

148 I'd say Elagabalus. Petulant, childish, wasteful and devoted to an alien culture.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 09:58 AM (qRla/)
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Obama hid his perversion rather than celebrate it. I think he's much closer to one of the late barbarian-sponsored tools than anyone with actual agency.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:06 AM (ZOv7s)

149 I remember my third and fourth grade teachers reading aloud to us. "James and the Giant Peach", "The Glass Slipper", and others.

I remember that also. I wonder if they're still allowed to do that these days or if it takes time away from practicing pronouns and putting rubbers on bananas.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:06 AM (vTZFs)

150 Just my opinion -- because I know how important that is to you all -- but "Nightfall" is either the best SF short ever or tied for first with "Johnny Mnemonic."
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026


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I'm fond of "Nightfall." But I prefer Blish's "Surface Tension" (more a novelette, though), Heinlein's "The Long Watch," and Cordwainer Smith's "The Game of Rat and Dragon."

Alfred Bester's "Fondly Fahrenheit" is up there too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wzUl9)

151 I have always preferred books that are mostly pictures.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wN/sj)

152 Opposite problem, here: birthday just before the cutoff date, (after start of school year). Parents were not going to sign off on sticking a 4-year-old into first grade.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:03 AM (NcvvS)
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I was always one of the youngest people in my grade, graduated at 17.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

153 I started a couple of books but got distracted by some appointments where I brought along and re-read Manning Coles' Non Negotiable
Tommy Hambleton is in Belgium trying to find some leads on counterfeit ring passing exceptional quality bills when he observes a dead drop in a cafe. In following it up he finds corpses, accommodation addresses, jilted fiancés, bakery apprentices, Antoine Letourd of the Surete, petty criminals, a shadowy and sinister character named Maurice who seems to be running the whole ring, and the person actually pulling the strings from plain sight.
It is a usual Manning Coles spy novel, with desperate fights, boring stake outs, clever commentary and the tragic deaths that dampens the fun in post-war Europe.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:08 AM (rbvCR)

154 narf

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:08 AM (rbvCR)

155 My first book that I can remember was Go Dog Go.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


Now that you mention it, that would be a great name for a band.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:09 AM (vTZFs)

156 >>I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.



I have done that once. It was "Shutter Island."
The ending was so dark and depressing I did not wish to share the book with anyone else by donating it to the used bookstore, thus ruining their day (the day they finished the book).

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:12 AM (X8xt3)

157 Now that you mention it, that would be a great name for a band.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 10:09 AM (vTZFs)
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I saw Go Dog Go open for They Might Be Giants at Pine Knob in 1996. Great show!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:12 AM (ZOv7s)

158 I'm deaf, so audiobooks are not my thing. It was recommended to me to listen to them when I first got my cochlear implants to help train my brain, so I went with books I can recite nearly from memory, which was Jane Austen. It was useful for training, but longer term, it would be very difficult if not impossible for me to consume a book I'd never read before that way. It would literally be easier and faster for me to read a book in my second, third, or fifth language than to listen to it. Even if I could, though, I'm also a speed reader and cannot imagine being confined to the slow pace of audiobooks. (I read 4 books just yesterday, for example.) I obviously don't drive and read at the same time, but cooking, cleaning, etc. I do with an ereader in hand.

I finally read Project Hail Mary yesterday. It was pretty good. There was one howler, when the narrator stated that two buildings at JSC that are actually a 15 minute drive apart were a 10 minute walk apart, but otherwise, good stuff. (The two buildings were the NBL and Building 30 (the MCC). Andy Weir has been to JSC. He also has access to google maps. Zero excuse for not knowing those buildings are not on the same campus.)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:12 AM (C/5yY)

159 Poul Anderson's short story Journeys End is a nifty piece of work too; kinda like the best Robert Silverberg story that Robert Silverberg never wrote. Yet another one due for a revisit.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:13 AM (q3u5l)

160 I have always preferred books that are mostly pictures.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wN/sj)
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Ezell's Handguns of the World.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:13 AM (ZOv7s)

161 He very clearly saw his role is guiding the US into decline and strategic irrelevance, and there's a pretty obvious parallel with settling barbarian tribes in the Empire, undermining its integrity.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

There was a bit of a difference: their barbarians wanted to be Romans, ours....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (1Ff7Z)

162 Well it works better for dramatic purooses if they were

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (bXbFr)

163 Kindltot, I need to find more of the Coles Hambledon books. Tommy has a neat willingness to say irreverent things that appeals to me. In an earlier WWII novel, he privately refers to the violent green-flash explosive the Nazis are developing as "Poppo."

I suspect Hambledon appears in David McDaniel's roman a clef Man From U.N.C.L.E. novel, The Rainbow Affair. His name is never given, but when he (as a clearly important officer of British Intelligence) calls a young woman agent "you little minx," that sounds like him.

The young woman agent is clearly Emma Peel, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (wzUl9)

164
"Nightfall" is great because it's so easy to visualize.

Same with Clarke's "Nine Billion Names of God".

Really adds to the story's punch.

"All You Zombies" by Heinlein was a real mindblower when I read it.

As was "Venus and the Seven Sexes" by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now.

Anyway, great conceptual mind-openers to the possibilities of SF.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 10:15 AM (iJfKG)

165 The only rough patch was when a book became a favorite. "Santa Claus and his Elves", every night... for several weeks... weeks, I tell you.

**"Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooey" has entered the chat**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 10:15 AM (qRla/)

166 I've been reading a lot of poetry lately and have found that reading the lines out loud makes a huge difference in appreciating the poems. Instead of treating the end of each line as a sentence, reading aloud and following the punctuation lets the lines flow naturally and allows the alliteration, rhymes and stresses to bring out qualities that silent reading misses. I did some dramatic readings in college and knew this but got out of the habit. Poe's The Raven, Tennyson's Ulysses (actually anything by Tennyson), Shakespeare's Sonnets take on new power and resonance when read aloud.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:16 AM (yTvNw)

167 Ezell's Handguns of the World.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:13 AM (ZOv7s)


This is an excellent book that I can recommend to anyone interested in the subject with the proviso that it fails to have all the handguns in the world.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (rbvCR)

168 But it doesnt make that big a difference

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (bXbFr)

169 Poul Anderson's short story Journeys End is a nifty piece of work too; kinda like the best Robert Silverberg story that Robert Silverberg never wrote. Yet another one due for a revisit.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026


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The story about telepaths? Yes!

Like Heinlein before him, Anderson had various depths to his work. PA was a hard-SF guy, but he could produce something like "Journey's End." Heinlein was a rational engineer, but then he gave us that haunting story about paranoia (or is it?), "They."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (wzUl9)

170 There was a bit of a difference: their barbarians wanted to be Romans, ours....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (1Ff7Z)
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No, I think they just wanted to get stuff from other people, same as now.

Trump is like Aurelian, Restitutor Orbis if you will, crushing barbarian and usurper alike. Hillary is Zenobia of Palmyra.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

171 "every night...for several weeks..."

I'll bet Mrs Some Guy and I can still recite Sandra Boynton's But Not the Hippopotamus from memory.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (q3u5l)

172 I once tossed a DC comic book. It was so anti-business that I don't think I finished it. I remember throwing it across the room, then picking it up and dropping it into the trash.

IIRC, it was a Booster Gold annual that introduced a new team.

Now I want to look it up.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (8pIvk)

173 I love reading aloud to the kids. Go Dog Go was a favorite in our house as well, as well as Fox in Socks and (when they got a little older) My Mama Says.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (C/5yY)

174 Lehane is rarely an encouraging read

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (bXbFr)

175 Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?



My folks told me they used to find me napping with my face in am open Encyclopedia Britannica, which seems to be pretty on brand with me, as nerdly as I am.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (/RHNq)

176 I remember when I first became aware of the anarchist-bombing movements of old. They made me irrationally angry. But they also made me smugly-satisfied, because that sort of foolishness was safely behind us, relegated to the dustbin of history. That was in the 2000's, when domestic troublemakers seemed far less relevant than home-grown ones. But now...glances at the headlines from last night...well, home-grown violence is back on the menu, it seems.


Posted by: Castle Guy


Yes, the US had a flare up of its own in the early years of the twentieth century, including an assassination of a president and bombings of Wall Street. Many people had thought the left had burned itself out on political violence, but we saw it during the Vietnam era, and now in the early years of the twenty-first, it seems to be clearly on the upswing again.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 10:20 AM (0U5gm)

177 87 ... "I wanted to have the book out by Bara's birthday at the end of July, but I don't know if I'll make it. Not that I have hordes of fans begging me for the book, anyway."

MP4,
Well, you have at least one fan waiting for the new book. I have the first two in hardcover and will do the same for the new one. Please let us know when publication is near.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:20 AM (yTvNw)

178 This is an excellent book that I can recommend to anyone interested in the subject with the proviso that it fails to have all the handguns in the world.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:17 AM (rbvCR)
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It also doesn't go past 1945. I was saddened to see that Ezell's update to Small Arms of the World did not have a section on South Korea. Poor Daewoo. Totally not fair that Rooftop Koreans should be snubbed in this way while every crap third world AK variant gets space.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2026 10:21 AM (ZOv7s)

179 . I did some dramatic readings in college and knew this but got out of the habit. Poe's The Raven, Tennyson's Ulysses (actually anything by Tennyson), Shakespeare's Sonnets take on new power and resonance when read aloud.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026


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Robert Browning's "My Last Duchess" and "The Laboratory," for instance. Both are dramatic monologues and meant to be read aloud.

Both are very modern, too, in that we are not *told* anything but view it all through the narrator's words. We're not told that the anonymous visitor to the Duke's abode is horrified by his host; Browning simply has the Duke say, "Nay, we'll go down together, sir[,]" and we *see* the visitor shrinking back and the Duke throwing a companionable arm over his reluctant shoulders.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:22 AM (wzUl9)

180 > reading the lines out loud makes a huge difference in appreciating the poems

Yep agree. And not being afraid of rhythm. Too many people seem to be convinced that rhythm is gauche or something, so they try to recite poetry like it's prose. That would be appropriate for My Last Duchess, but Poe intended his poetry to be read aloud. Same for Tolkien. Sound and rhythm were just as important as meaning to him.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:22 AM (C/5yY)

181 @171 --

"Chicka Chicka Boom Boom."

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (8pIvk)

182 >>Lehane is rarely an encouraging read

Look at the movies based on his books, such as Mystic River and Gone, Baby Gone. Dark twists at the end. BLEAK. I have no interest in reading anymore of his books. Not my jam!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (X8xt3)

183 >>Just my opinion -- because I know how important that is to you all -- but "Nightfall" is either the best SF short ever or tied for first with "Johnny Mnemonic."

Re-read 'By the Waters of Bablyon' by Stephen Vincent Benet once a year. Holds up very well.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (NcvvS)

184 It's a captivating story, rich in details and with memorable characters.

Posted by: Zoltan




A Soldier of the Great War by Helprin is such a wonderful novel. I really need to reread it. It's been decades since my last read.

Helprin's most recent novel, "The Oceans and the Stars: A Sea Story, A War Story. A Love Story," is actually very, very good tale that I highly recommend. Much in the tradition of Soldier of the Great War.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:23 AM (/RHNq)

185 Lehane is rarely an encouraging read

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (bXbFr)


The first novel I read by Dennis Lehane was "Prayers for Rain".

It was so good that I read everything of his I could find.

I gave him room to cook and forgave his lesser writes.

But, somewhere along the line, he lost me by no longer writing stories that I was interested in.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (iJfKG)

186 I have always preferred books that are mostly pictures.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2026 10:07 AM (wN/sj)


With the sliding thingies? Those are the best!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (WQAc4)

187 Thai police disguise as dance troupe to arrest drug suspect, seize methamphetamine pills

I did NOT have Thai Ladyboy Cops on my Bingo card.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (/+uur)

188 172 I once tossed a DC comic book. It was so anti-business that I don't think I finished it. I remember throwing it across the room, then picking it up and dropping it into the trash.

IIRC, it was a Booster Gold annual that introduced a new team.

Now I want to look it up.
Posted by: Weak Geek at May 24, 2026 10:18 AM (8pIvk)

There was an issue like that in the second JLI omnibus. (Which I read about a year ago) I don't think the new team ever appeared again. Certainly not in that collection, and none of the characters were ones I had heard about from other sources.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:25 AM (3v7ra)

189 With the sliding thingies? Those are the best!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 24, 2026 10:24 AM (WQAc4)

I like the books on a circle
That you have to click to read the next page

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:25 AM (/+uur)

190 My Last Duchess is written in iambic pentameter with an aabb rhyme scheme, but don't recite it in iambic pentameter or you'll sound insane.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026 10:25 AM (C/5yY)

191 As was "Venus and the Seven Sexes" by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now.

Anyway, great conceptual mind-openers to the possibilities of SF.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026


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I recall a few stories by Tenn. One takes place in a post-nuclear Armageddon world, where the whites are starving and ragged, barely surviving, while the Indian tribes have come back into their own and are living large off the land.

Another involved advanced aliens involved in a war with another spacegoing race. The first come to Earth and ask to use our planet as a base. The whole thing winds up being like Korea or Vietnam: a disaster for the humans providing the base and the resources.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)

192 So I was stuck in my car on Thursday in my worst commute home from work ever. And I was listening to James Clavell's 'Shogun' until...I had to turn it off.

The thing about audio books is you have no idea how long a chapter is, you can't easily skip ahead.

This is important because there is a long, long sequence where the survivors of the boat crash and whining and cringing and repeating themselves over and over. Over and over.

On the page, I can skip this or at least I can estimate how much more of this I have to endure by looking at the page or chapter. In an audiobook, the only way through is forward. Or to stop. Which is what I did.

I do like James Clavell. But I will stick to paper for Shogun.

The voice actor wasn't terrible, he was acting and playing the characters as written. I just...didn't like what was written. Bad VA is something else entirely.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 10:26 AM (xcxpd)

193 and yes, for self-editing, reading aloud is very useful for finding errors.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (xcxpd)

194 My parents read books to us, including the Narnia series, James and the Giant Peach, and others. Loved to leave us hanging so that we would beg them to continue the next night. heh.

Don't remember my first book. Being the third child, there were always my siblings' books around. Several ones that are memorable: "Nothing Ever Happens on My Block" by Ellen Raskin, the Dr. Seuss books, and the Richard Scary books. Loved the silly ones!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (X8xt3)

195 My Last Duchess is written in iambic pentameter with an aabb rhyme scheme, but don't recite it in iambic pentameter or you'll sound insane.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026


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No; I'd simply read it as if speaking the lines in a drama. "This grew; I gave commands; then all smiles stopped together." Insert sigh "There she stands as if alive. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (wzUl9)

196 Yes, the US had a flare up of its own in the early years of the twentieth century, including an assassination of a president and bombings of Wall Street.

Eric Burns' 1920: The Year That Made the Decade Roar opens with the Morgan Bank bombing and describes the (eventually fruitless) investigation as it tackles other events of the year - Ponzi, Prohibition, jazz, &c.

Burns also wrote Infamous Scribblers, a good, engrossing history of newspapers and reporting from Colonial times through the post-George Washington era.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 10:29 AM (qRla/)

197 My mother would read books to us almost nightly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 24, 2026 10:30 AM (erYkk)

198 Closest to upbeat I can remember seeing from Dennis Lehane is The Drop (both book and movie, but the movie is more so). If Mystic River and Shutter Island are just too dark to suit you, The Drop (film version with Tom Hardy, Noomi Rapace, and James Gandolfini and script by Lehane) is worth a look.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:30 AM (q3u5l)

199 At the risk of making some jealous, and on the subject of books with pictures, I must report that the other day I scored a pristine copy of W.W. Greener's The Gun and it's Development. Technically, what it has is a lot of 1910 era drawings of firearm actions along with text to describe how the various guns work and how each action was developed, building on previous inventor's work.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 10:31 AM (0U5gm)

200 The first novel I read by Dennis Lehane was "Prayers for Rain".

It was so good that I read everything of his I could find.

I gave him room to cook and forgave his lesser writes.

But, somewhere along the line, he lost me by no longer writing stories that I was interested in.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026


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His early private-eye novels, including the basis for that superb movie Gone, Baby, Gone, seemed to be a new voice in detective fiction, the way Robert Parker was in 1973 with Spenser. Mystic River was fascinating too. Whenever I see one of his on the library shelf I grab it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:31 AM (wzUl9)

201 I need to find more of the Coles Hambledon books. Tommy has a neat willingness to say irreverent things that appeals to me. In an earlier WWII novel, he privately refers to the violent green-flash explosive the Nazis are developing as "Poppo."

[ . . . ]
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:14 AM (wzUl9)


They are very much time capsules of life after the war. Coles was in British Intelligence and from some people I know who studied post-war Germany and France, the plots echo some things that were going on in Europe at the time.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 10:31 AM (rbvCR)

202 175 Did the Horde have similar experiences learning to read? Any special first book memories?

Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:19 AM (/RHNq)

I have no particular memories of learning to read. Nor of reading with my parents. (I'm sure they did, a lot, but my memories start with the books I was reading myself.) One book that I remember seeing around the house, which probably deserves a mention; "There's a Monster at the End of This Book." It's a book about Grover (from Sesame Street) begging the reader not to finish the book. It all built to a twist ending, which I'm sure you all can guess.

There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (3v7ra)

203 My Last Duchess is written in iambic pentameter with an aabb rhyme scheme, but don't recite it in iambic pentameter or you'll sound insane.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at May 24, 2026


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Though, since the Duke clearly IS insane . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (wzUl9)

204 As was "Venus and the Seven Sexes" by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now.

Anyway, great conceptual mind-openers to the possibilities of SF.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026

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I recall a few stories by Tenn. One takes place in a post-nuclear Armageddon world, where the whites are starving and ragged, barely surviving, while the Indian tribes have come back into their own and are living large off the land.

Another involved advanced aliens involved in a war with another spacegoing race. The first come to Earth and ask to use our planet as a base. The whole thing winds up being like Korea or Vietnam: a disaster for the humans providing the base and the resources.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:26 AM (wzUl9)


Several years ago, one of the boutique SF printers publish all of his stuff in a two volume hardcover set.

That was a pretty great find for me and I bought them immediately.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 10:33 AM (iJfKG)

205 Closest to upbeat I can remember seeing from Dennis Lehane is The Drop (both book and movie, but the movie is more so). If Mystic River and Shutter Island are just too dark to suit you, The Drop (film version with Tom Hardy, Noomi Rapace, and James Gandolfini and script by Lehane) is worth a look.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026


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Not sure I've read The Drop!

Shutter Island is the one I was thinking of that left me a little cold. The ultimate twist/revelation seemed a bit of a letdown. Still, his prose is always readable.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:34 AM (wzUl9)

206 As a wee one, I adored books by Aileen Fisher. They were poetry, if I recall, and the illustrations were lovely.

I also fondly remember one called Where Does the Butterfly Go When it Rains, by May Garelick. The illustrations were beautiful watercolors in blue shades.

These gave me an early appreciation for poetry and art.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 10:35 AM (h7ZuX)

207
There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show...
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026

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Sesame Street
came along too late for me; I was in high school. I recall reading the plaudits for it in TV Guide then, but never saw an episode until later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:36 AM (wzUl9)

208 I was always a Shakespeare fan, but the first time I saw a performance was a revelation. The language was so precise, the words conveying the meaning perfectly. Don't know if this description makes sense. It is like how poetry comes alive when read aloud.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2026 10:37 AM (kJmSS)

209 Yes, the US had a flare up of its own in the early years of the twentieth century, including an assassination of a president and bombings of Wall Street. Many people had thought the left had burned itself out on political violence, but we saw it during the Vietnam era, and now in the early years of the twenty-first, it seems to be clearly on the upswing again.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 24, 2026 10:20 AM (0U5gm)
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The Soviets were busy organizing Communist cells in the US during the 1930s. Deep roots for future treason. When I was younger, Whitaker Chamber's book "Witness" made a big impression on me.

Posted by: mrp at May 24, 2026 10:37 AM (rj6Yv)

210 I could be wrong, but The Drop reads kind of like Lehane doing a novelization of his film script. If you've not seen the flick, it's worth it just for Gandolfini (his last performance, I think); everything in it just works IMHO.

And yes, the dog lives.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:38 AM (q3u5l)

211 One person who (re)awakened my interest in poetry in general and reading aloud is Malcolm Guite. His YT videos are a joy to watch and listen to. Whether he is discussing and quoting LOTR prose, his own poetry, the Faerie Queene, or Coleridge and Wordsworth, his enthusiasm and insights are delightful and enlightening.

I'm reading his Galahad and the Grail which just came out in April. It's the first volume of four, an epic ballad of the King Arthur legends. I regard this as a modern masterpiece, on the same level as Tennyson's Idylls of the King or Chesterton's Ballad of the White Horse. I was smart enough to get the audio recording of him reading the poem. I read a section silently, read it again out loud, then listen to his reading of the same part. It's like adding another rainbows-worth of color to my appreciation.

Yes, I am enthusiastic about it. The next volume is due out in November.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:39 AM (yTvNw)

212 I am with Wolfus, PBS kid shows were after my early years.
Though a painful memory was watching Electric Company in the worst hangover ever while in Germany and laughing yet was painful to do that.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 10:39 AM (Ia/+0)

213 Re-read 'By the Waters of Bablyon' by Stephen Vincent Benet once a year. Holds up very well.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026


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His free-verse poem "Metropolitan Nightmare" is a classic too!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:40 AM (wzUl9)

214 My lil sis Rhonda (RIP) loved Sesame and New Zoo Review (yuk).
There was another bad kiddie show she watched I cannot remember.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 24, 2026 10:42 AM (/+uur)

215 FDR let the NKVD run their surveillance in the USA during the war.
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I’m reading the autobiography of G. Gordon Liddy. Interesting cat for sure.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:43 AM (+Oqoq)

216 The YouTube algorithm has sent me to a The channel of one Malcolm Guite. He's an English poet and essayist who looks like a Tolkien character.
The man muses about literature, particularly Tolkien, culture, history, traditions and Christianity.
I find the man fascinating.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 10:44 AM (wBzSI)

217 I don't read as much poetry as I ought to, but I'm partial to Dana Gioia's stuff.

Check out "Summer Storm" and "Unsaid" in the Poems tab at danagioia.com

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 10:45 AM (q3u5l)

218 There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show...
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026

Didn't watch it. Plenty of other shows, besides, I was older anyway. Seemed too ghetto for me and city centric. My younger brother watched The Electric Company.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 10:47 AM (1Ff7Z)

219 The most accessible Lewis & Clark journal edition is probably the Bernard DeVoto version. Reasonably complete for a good overview.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:47 AM (+Oqoq)

220 "Nothing Ever Happens on My Block" by Ellen Raskin
Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 10:28 AM (X8xt3)

That's still one of my favorites!

I am going to be contrary, now. I despise Richard Scarry. Hate those. Don't like the drawings, and they're just a constant frenzy of activity that unsettles me.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 10:50 AM (h7ZuX)

221 Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel seems to be one of the earlier books I recall. And Green Eggs and Ham. I understand “Dr. Seuss” has in recent years run afoul of the political czars in academia. It won’t be a problem too much longer though, younger leftists won’t be able, much less allowed, to read.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 10:51 AM (+Oqoq)

222 >>His free-verse poem "Metropolitan Nightmare" is a classic too!

Never really got into his poetry, though I have a collection of his poetry & prose work. His short stories were excellent; another of them is 'Into Egypt'.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 10:51 AM (NcvvS)

223 There's a question; did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here? Since teaching young kids was supposedly the mission statement for that show...
Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (3v7ra)

100% here.
Everyday as a kid.
I also learned to fear the inner city.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 10:51 AM (594J6)

224 The drop is ol


But theres only so much nihilsm one can subject your self to

And i say that as someone that reas the whole red queem seeies by gomez jurado

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:52 AM (bXbFr)

225 Ruocchio marlowe series

Posted by: Miguel cervantes



I read all 4500 pages of that series. Good Lord, Marlowe is a drama queen. He tells you on page one of the series that he commits genocide against the Cielcin, and then Ruocchio spends the next 7 books justifying the genocide.

Trust me, Mr. Author, by the end of Book 3, we were all on board with killing the Cielcin. If anyone ever had genocide rightfully in their future, it was the Cielcin.

GET ON WITH IT, MARLOWE, AND STOP EMOTING!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:53 AM (/RHNq)

226 Series spsnish noir

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:53 AM (bXbFr)

227 I went to a private school for high school that was K-12. On the first day of class in the Study Hall period they announced the Elementary School library was looking for volunteers to give up study hall and "work" there. My hand shot up. I did it every year.

Sure, it was Richard Scarry, Henry and Beezus, and Pippi Longstocking, but still. It endeared me to thrill of possibilities you get when there's a large collection of books, the scent of books and the value of being exposed to a wide range of subjects and authors, even if it just teaches you what you don't like.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 10:54 AM (2Ez/1)

228 Yeah just fire up the blasters if any alien race needed killing

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 24, 2026 10:54 AM (bXbFr)

229 I've never met an 'early reader' who actually learned by the phonics system that schools used. When you're on a parent's lap, it's all whole-word recognition, and then you get the alphabet. Nevertheless, whenever high horses are mounted and stallions rear up to paw the sky, Scott Foresman's partisans step to the front of the classroom and start rubbing those damned sticks together. Pee-aitch says fuh-fuh-fuh.
We don't like The Anti-Phonics because that's what they have now. I remember when Big Phonix was The System.

Nothing has put off more prodigies from the public school process than the grinding drudgery of having to practice the letter-noises with all those illiterates, when you could read anything the teacher could the day you got there.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 10:56 AM (zdLoL)

230 I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.



I have done that once. It was "Shutter Island."
The ending was so dark and depressing I did not wish to share the book with anyone else by donating it to the used bookstore, thus ruining their day (the day they finished the book).

Posted by: Lizzy



I read Caleb Carr's novel "The Alienist" in 1994, and promptly tossed it on a sewer grate, poured whiskey on it, and burned it. God, I hated that book. The fact that I was struggling in law school at the time while also separated from my first ex-wife may have had something to do with the extreme after of book burning. But, it was indeed an uninteresting story badly told. That's the only book I've ever destroyed.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 24, 2026 10:57 AM (/RHNq)

231 216 ... "The YouTube algorithm has sent me to a The channel of one Malcolm Guite. He's an English poet and essayist who looks like a Tolkien character.
The man muses about literature, particularly Tolkien, culture, history, traditions and Christianity.
I find the man fascinating."

Northernlurker,

So glad you found Guite's YT channel. I've been raving about him for a while. He also does a lot of interviews on other YT channels for the Wade Center and Christian groups even when not discussing religion specifically. All are worth listening to. And for fun, check out him reading his "Your Poetry is Jamming my Machine" on the Steve Bell channel. It has the vibe of a Beatnik reading his poems in a coffee shop circa 1959. Brief but a lot of fun.

To make him about perfect, he smokes a pipe and has white hair and beard. My kind of guy.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:58 AM (yTvNw)

232 Shutter Island is the one I was thinking of that left me a little cold. The ultimate twist/revelation seemed a bit of a letdown. Still, his prose is always readable.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 10:34 AM (wzUl9)

I wish there were two version of Shutter Island. Because I was enjoying the story before the twist.

But the more I've read it, the more the overall story also works...so I want it both ways. Played straight and as self-protecting delusion.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 24, 2026 10:58 AM (xcxpd)

233 I didn't mind The Alienist, though it could have used an editor and I never cared to re-read it. I know Carr did a sequel, but I was never enthused enough to pick it up. He also did a Holmes pastiche which gets a lot of plaudits, but I thought it was a poor attempt at copying Conan Doyle.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 11:02 AM (qRla/)

234 *I remember when Big Phonix was The System.*

Don't get hooked on it, kids.

Posted by: And stay in school at May 24, 2026 11:02 AM (2Ez/1)

235 Loved Radio Reader, loved Dick Estell- and he did NOT have a gravelly voice, at all. Brian Keith had a gravelly voice. Dick Estell had a voice similar, but in a slightly lower register, to Mr. Peterson on the Bob Newhart Show.

Posted by: Job at May 24, 2026 11:04 AM (Dz7wk)

236 One of the things I did now and then when working at the bookstore was stripping unsold mass-market paperbacks. Cover came off and was returned for credit. The book itself was ripped in half down the spine and tossed. Hated it, but...

There's a story about someone applying for a bookstore job; he's told during the interview to strip a few paperbacks. He just couldn't do it, and he didn't get the job.

Orwell's essay "Bookshop Memories" should probably be required reading for anyone wanting to work in a bookstore or library.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:04 AM (q3u5l)

237 To make him about perfect, he smokes a pipe and has white hair and beard. My kind of guy.
Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 10:58 AM
I forgot to mention he also talks about pipe smoking.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 24, 2026 11:05 AM (wBzSI)

238 OK, folks, time to call it a morning and take the pups for a walk before the rain starts.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at May 24, 2026 11:08 AM (qRla/)

239 It taught me to not try to carry 7 pies at once down the stairs.

Posted by: Sesame Street Life at May 24, 2026 11:08 AM (Dz7wk)

240 "It taught me to not try to carry 7 pies at once down the stairs."

And they say educational tv ain't educational.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:11 AM (q3u5l)

241 I can't recall exactly when I learned to read, but one of my earliest memories is of the headlines of George Reeves' death, which occurred when I was 4. I loved the Superman show.

Posted by: Darles Chickens at May 24, 2026 11:11 AM (vOKvj)

242 Nothing has put off more prodigies from the public school process than the grinding drudgery of having to practice the letter-noises with all those illiterates, when you could read anything the teacher could the day you got there.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 10:56 AM (zdLoL)


King Sejong Joseon disagreed with this point of view, as do I. He, because he needed something easier to learn than identifying whole words in Chinese characters, and I was taught by my parents and siblings what letters were, what noises they made, and how to sound out new words.
Back when literacy was much higher in the US, teaching was done by both phonetics and then by word identification to build speed. Now they just do word ID, and that is pointless for most students who don't have any context to build the words identification on.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:12 AM (rbvCR)

243 The other danger to reading to young sprogs (the first being obsession with One Book Dear God Can We Read Something Else) is making stuff up. The sprog doesn't know it was made up. It counts as A Story and when said sprog says "read it again!" you have to frantically try to remember how you even started this made up thing.

Not that this ever happened to me. Authors have it rough, I tell you!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 11:13 AM (vAQDP)

244 Not exactly book based but if you want to hear the power of a single voice narrating a story effectively, listen to some old radio dramas. One voice and some sound effects could be very powerful. A good book narrator can do the same.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 11:14 AM (yTvNw)

245 Obligatory: hooked on phonics intervention

youtu.be/OBJR03BORRQ

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:14 AM (rbvCR)

246 Still struggling with 'The Brothers Karamazov'. I find it extremely tedious.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 11:15 AM (XeU6L)

247 Now they just do word ID

I'm not talking about what "they" do. Of course we will be opposed to what They are doing. My mother taught me to read, and it was not by phonics drill with sliding cardboard sticks.
My father taught me a couple of marketable trades. After you have those things, you are ready to begin your education.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 11:19 AM (zdLoL)

248 That was something clearly evident between the draftees from World War One and World War Two.

Formal entrance examinstions, IQ and aptitude testing in particular were first used in a systematic way for the first world war.

Illiteracy had increased dramatically, they found, in 1940. In large part because of whack job theories of teaching people how to read. They also found a lot of diseases attributable to malnutrition, because of the previous decade of the economic depression.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:19 AM (+Oqoq)

249 My wife had M.S. I read to her. I read my favorites. Slowing down really made the whole thing quite enjoyable.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:21 AM (qFwJc)

250 I admit that I quit 'The Brothers Karamazov' about 40 pages from the ending. Just didn't care anymore.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (qFwJc)

251 Mike Hammer,

I've not yet read Karamazov (on the list for whenever I finish Bleak House), but I've read Crime & Punishment and (eons ago) some of his shorter stuff. What translation are you reading? I've tried some of the newer Pevear/Volokhonsky translations but they don't seem to me to read as well as Garnett and some of the others. If you're using P/V, maybe try a different translator?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (q3u5l)

252 Formal entrance examinstions, IQ and aptitude testing in particular were first used in a systematic way for the first world war.

Illiteracy had increased dramatically, they found, in 1940. In large part because of whack job theories of teaching people how to read. They also found a lot of diseases attributable to malnutrition, because of the previous decade of the economic depression.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026


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You mean illiteracy was still a thing because of poor teaching almost a hundred years ago??? I thought it was mostly since the Sixties.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9)

253 did Sesame Street have any effect on anyone here?

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 24, 2026 10:32 AM (3v7ra)
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Romper Room.

Wonderama.

Bozo.

Three Stooges.

Looney Tunes, Rocky & Bullwinkle, and practically every other cartoon out there.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (adINt)

254 I admit that I quit 'The Brothers Karamazov' about 40 pages from the ending. Just didn't care anymore.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026


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I got through Crime and Punishment. Don't ask me how. It was fascinating until the murder, and rolled fast downhill after that.

Well, in part, it was the Sniffle Scare times and I had little else to read.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:24 AM (wzUl9)

255 I do a lot of reading on Ye Olde Android smartphone and much of it here on said Smart Military Blog™. One thing I have came to appreciate is the effortless ability to expand my vocabulary.

Whenever one my esteemed hordemates introduces a new word into one our many thoughtful discussions regarding human mammary glands like "cromulent" or "crepuscular" all I have to do is press it with an index finger for a couple of seconds and boom, instant dictionary.

You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

256 Break-break

Get ready for another McCain funeral

/out

Posted by: one hour sober at May 24, 2026 11:25 AM (J4Dwc)

257 The other danger to reading to young sprogs (the first being obsession with One Book Dear God Can We Read Something Else) is making stuff up. The sprog doesn't know it was made up. It counts as A Story and when said sprog says "read it again!" you have to frantically try to remember how you even started this made up thing.

Not that this ever happened to me. Authors have it rough, I tell you!
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026


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Sabrina, you are about the only other person I've known besides me who uses the word "sprog" at all, let alone to describe small humans. It was British Navy slang for a new recruit, I think; didn't Forester use it in the Hornblower books?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (wzUl9)

258 >>Romper Room.

Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (NcvvS)

259 I suppose it’s all relative. The point is that there was a steep decline in the percentage due to “modern” ideas on language instruction.

Mathematics has been around formally for thousands of years. I doubt there is any new ground being broken on how to teach it. But, that doesn’t stop them from trying.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (+Oqoq)

260 What translation are you reading? I've tried some of the newer Pevear/Volokhonsky translations but they don't seem to me to read as well as Garnett and some of the others. If you're using P/V, maybe try a different translator?
Posted by: Just Some Guy
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Garnett

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 11:27 AM (XeU6L)

261 >>Romper Room.

Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (NcvvS)
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So you never do what's right and always do everything wrong.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 11:28 AM (8schn)

262 Lovely post, Sabrina. Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (A5RD0)

263 I was a very poor reader until later in life. Mom and Dad did not read to me. Older brother and sister read "The Cat in the Hat" and "One fish two fish red fish blue fish," but that was all.

I remember struggling with "The Anatomy of Revolution" (Crane Brinton) during the Summer before AP US History. I bought it a few years ago and it was an amazingly easy read.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (qFwJc)

264 Not that I have hordes of fans begging me for the book, anyway.

Well, you have fans of The Horde, for whatever that's worth.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (vTZFs)

265 Was looking up Romoer Room, feel silly I believed she had a real Magic Mirror

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 11:30 AM (Ia/+0)

266 Mathematics has been around formally for thousands of years. I doubt there is any new ground being broken on how to teach it. But, that doesn’t stop them from trying.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Ah.'New Math'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 11:31 AM (XeU6L)

267 You can forget your Maths, but your vocabulary only increases over time.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:31 AM (qFwJc)

268 I was and still am pretty decent with Old Math.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:31 AM (qFwJc)

269 Mike Hammer at 260

Oh, well. The Michael Katz translation's supposed to be good too, but haven't sampled that. My copy's a Garnett too.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (q3u5l)

270 >>So you never do what's right and always do everything wrong.

There are those who would agree with that. More seriously, it was just entertainment. Probably got more out of Captain Kangaroo.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (NcvvS)

271 Romper Room.

Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me.
Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026

***
Captain Kangaroo
was it for me. One morning they said they were going to have the big South American rodent, the capybara, on the show. I had to leave for school before they showed it. Dang.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (wzUl9)

272 In The Dynamite Club, John Merriman traces the history of how leftist politics turned to terror in the western world.

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Barbara Tuchmann's The Proud Tower examines the twenty- five years before WWI. The book is arranged thematically. While I enjoyed the book generally, her chapter on anarchism is brilliant.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (ndZc7)

273 I was fed a steady diet of Popeye, Sylvester the Cat, and Bugs Bunny before school in the mornings. LOL Elementary school started at the civilized hour of 9:00 am.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:33 AM (qFwJc)

274 A kid could learn a lot from Rocky & Bullwinkle, Mr. Peabody and Sherman, and The Fractured Fairy Tales.

Not that I would know anything about that.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 11:34 AM (2Ez/1)

275 Was looking up Romoer Room, feel silly I believed she had a real Magic Mirror
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026


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When the hostess would list the names of the kids in the audience ("I see Billy, and Annette, and Chuck; I see Carl and John and Betty . . ."), she *never* said mine. Talk about a letdown.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:35 AM (wzUl9)

276 Elementary school started at the civilized hour of 9:00 am.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026


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It was 8:45 here, and I had a ten-minute walk to the school building, so I had to be out by 8:30 or so.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:36 AM (wzUl9)

277 New Math and Common Core Math were probably designed to make certain that nobody got through grade school able to do simple arithmetic. Did some work with the grandtots during the Covid idiocies, helping them with math; some of the Common Core stuff seemed needlessly confusing.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:36 AM (q3u5l)

278 It was a plot by the NAACP to make sure that even white kids couldn't do math.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:38 AM (qFwJc)

279 Math is simply a foreign language. You have to speak it every day to maintain proficiency.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 11:38 AM (2Ez/1)

280 Romper Room.

Came on just about the time we had to leave for school. Might have it on for a day off or during the summer. Didn't do a lot for me.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:26 AM (NcvvS)
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*
So you never do what's right and always do everything wrong.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026


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"Do-Bees" and "Don't-Bees"?

To show you how naive I was, when the Doobie Brothers first popped up on Top 40, I thought their name was a play on the "Do-Bees" from Romper Room!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:39 AM (wzUl9)

281 A kid at work was talking about how much Sponge Bob means to him. I scoffed, went on a rant. He almost cried
We watched stuff that at least had a lesson to it and didn't idolize stupidity.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 11:39 AM (594J6)

282 I'm not talking about what "they" do. Of course we will be opposed to what They are doing. My mother taught me to read, and it was not by phonics drill with sliding cardboard sticks.
My father taught me a couple of marketable trades. After you have those things, you are ready to begin your education.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 24, 2026 11:19 AM (zdLoL)



The PURPOSE of an alphabet is to simplify identification of written words and do it on a phonetic level, easily identifiable and interpretable. It is the base skill of reading, and is why alphabetic systems are easier to read than syllabaries and much easier than ideograms. Even you sound out new words to match them against what you already know. Without an alphabet language is code without a real world key, and fluency is essential

To the early student all words are new and complex. To insist they learn the way you did is beyond the patience of most kids who haven't learned reading is fun. Instead it turns it into frustrating experience in failure that turns them off from reading because it is too hard for a 5 YO kid to memorize 750 whole words for basic vocabulary, even though they have the words.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:39 AM (rbvCR)

283 Speak it every day...

Ain't that the truth. Started out as a math major as an undergrad, and switched to English after Integral Calculus. Just didn't wanna do this any more. If I had to solve a simple quadratic now without looking up the formula, I'd be in big trouble.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:40 AM (q3u5l)

284 >>Elementary school started at the civilized hour of 9:00 am.

Same here, but in the early grades, it was a twenty-minute walk to school, and Romper Room started at 8:30.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:40 AM (NcvvS)

285 I had to leave for school before they showed it. Dang.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I understand elementary schools in our area can't mark you down as "Tardy" anymore 'cause of fellow students abusing you as a 'tard.

Posted by: Auspex at May 24, 2026 11:41 AM (Y8DZL)

286 *We watched stuff that at least had a lesson to it and didn't idolize stupidity.*
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Like the value of a ball peen hammer.

Posted by: Moe Howard at May 24, 2026 11:41 AM (2Ez/1)

287 286 *We watched stuff that at least had a lesson to it and didn't idolize stupidity.*
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Like the value of a ball peen hammer.
Posted by: Moe Howard at May 24, 2026 11:41 AM (2Ez/1)

----

Moe: "Remind me to kill you later."
Curly: "I'll make a note of it!"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 11:42 AM (Ucgf4)

288 To the early student all words are new and complex. To insist they learn the way you did is beyond the patience of most kids who haven't learned reading is fun. Instead it turns it into frustrating experience in failure that turns them off from reading because it is too hard for a 5 YO kid to memorize 750 whole words for basic vocabulary, even though they have the words.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026


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I'm reminded of my ninth-grade English teacher (a universally-hated Japanese woman) who insisted we memorize a list of all the prepositions in English "so you will recognize them."

Her teaching style, e.g., referring to students sarcastically as "you bright lights," probably turned a lot of my classmates off from reading as a fun activity. And made them think of grammar as a mysterious, insoluble code.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:43 AM (wzUl9)

289 Pictures of planes, ships, spacecraft, maps and people will never convert to audio. For non-fiction that means 95% of the money I spend on reading will remain books and mostly physical.

The virtual reading from audible has improved enough that if I can make it through the free sample, I've not had to bale on a book because of narration. Still has some issues with technical terms and sometimes even reading dates.

I do have a list of favorite narrators so their books get added to wishlists easier than most titles.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at May 24, 2026 11:44 AM (KaHlS)

290 The educational 'experts' were all unproven theory and no sense of reality. Ignoring hundreds of years of educating young people, successfully, to read using phonics, they came up with their whole word BS. The same with the 'new math'. My grandfather never made it through high school, taught himself higher math, including calculus. When I showed him the new math crap foisted on us in grade school he expanded my vocabulary with his colorful opinions about the method.

My skepticism about self-styled 'experts' began in 4th grade. Sixty-odd years later Anthony Fauci was just the latest reason to distrust, preferably ignore, experts.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2026 11:44 AM (yTvNw)

291 Which reminds me of yet another book on the Amazing Colossal To-Be-Read Pile. British horror writer Ramsey Campbell did a book called Six Stooges and Counting, all about the Stooges. No ebook available, darn it; paperback and hardcover from PS Publishing in the UK.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:45 AM (q3u5l)

292 My father was a bookkeeper and a kind of "computer" in the old sense of the word as "a worker who computes." He tried to get me to understand arithmetic by buying me endless workbooks. They simply extended school for me, which I found boring to start with. To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:47 AM (wzUl9)

293 You mean illiteracy was still a thing because of poor teaching almost a hundred years ago??? I thought it was mostly since the Sixties.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9)


I have some primers from the 1890's and early 1900s that I have no clue what they were trying to do, and some of Grandma's Normal School primers were a bit out there, and she was learning to be a teacher in 1920.
We have been teaching English reading for 200 years plus and some things work better than other. Like any skill, basics, practice and repetition for a payoff are what works.
That applies to reading, math, typing, or even being an apprentice tin-smith.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 11:48 AM (rbvCR)

294 *To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.*
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Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: The Reals, The imaginaries, The rationals, and The Irrationals at May 24, 2026 11:51 AM (2Ez/1)

295 Picked a movie from a book to watch
A Bridge too Far

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 11:52 AM (Ia/+0)

296 I have finally pulled Gene Wolfe's Long Sun tetralogy off the shelf, and have just started the third book.

It did not grab me on the first couple of tries, the way the New Sun tetralogy did, but now that I am immersed in the world, I keep wanting to go back there and see what happens next.

Wolfe is a remarkable writer, and what he constructs is not like any other I've encountered.

Posted by: Splunge at May 24, 2026 11:52 AM (JpUeg)

297 CBD up early.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:53 AM (NcvvS)

298 Why do people still watch television?

I don't. My kids, who are in their 40's don't.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (qFwJc)

299 And it's off to create even more chaos here at Casa Some Guy.

Thanks for the thread, Sabrina.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (q3u5l)

300 I'm off to run some errands and do Author Stuff. You've been a lovely Book Thread audience! Tune in next month to see what deranged topic I pick for your entertainment and erudition ...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 24, 2026 11:54 AM (vAQDP)

301 I have the Jackson Citizen Patriot from the day my grandfathers passing was announced. He was a judge in the area.
You could print every story on the back page where his obit is continued and they would be true. Johny can't read, prisons over crouded, union protest.. blah blah except one. A murder of a 4 year old kid where the perp was loose and the locals had "armed up and were hunting" the guy.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 11:55 AM (594J6)

302 Thanks for the Book Thread, Sabrina. Catch y'all later.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 24, 2026 11:57 AM (NcvvS)

303 Yes. Thank you.

Posted by: Reforger at May 24, 2026 11:57 AM (594J6)

304 Time for me to head out and do some chores too. Thanks to Sabrina and all of you for a solid Book Thread!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 12:00 PM (wzUl9)

305 *To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.*
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Sitting right here, boss.
Posted by: The Reals, The imaginaries, The rationals, and The Irrationals at May 24, 2026


***
* Runs shrieking into the rain *

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 12:00 PM (wzUl9)

306 I threw a book away this week. Literally into the trash can.

I have done that once. It was "Shutter Island."
The ending was so dark and depressing I did not wish to share the book with anyone else by donating it to the used bookstore, thus ruining their day (the day they finished the book).

Posted by: Lizzy


When I was broadening my SF horizons, my friends told me to read Dune. Being poor at the time, and wanting to get a shorter taste of Mr. Herbert's work, I picked up the paperback of his latest novel, The White Plague. It was fairly good...right up until the middle when one of the characters recites a blasphemous rhyme that took me right out of the story.. I skipped to the end, found it uninspired, and prompt ly threw it in the trash. I have never picked up anything by him since.

Posted by: goozer at May 24, 2026 12:01 PM (BAs8w)

307 Picked a movie from a book to watch
A Bridge too Far
Posted by: Skip

There was actually a good show on PBS yesterday about the daylight crossing of the Waal by row boats. I thought they might bury the essential futility of the crossing given the lack of follow through but they covered it pretty well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (ndZc7)

308 You can forget your Maths, but your vocabulary only increases over time.
Posted by: no one of any consequense
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Would that this was true. A common problem among those of my age demographic is recollection of words (and names). One knows the word that one wishes to use, but can't conjure it up. It is very frustrating. As my BIL says, 'There's nothing wrong with my memory, it's my recollection that is bad'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:02 PM (XeU6L)

309 *To this day the phrase "mixed nuts" makes me think with a shudder of "mixed numbers" from those workbooks.*
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Sitting right here, boss.
Posted by: The Reals, The imaginaries, The rationals, and The Irrationals at May 24, 2026

***
* Runs shrieking into the rain *
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Transcendentals

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:05 PM (XeU6L)

310 Mike Hammer, the medical term is "aphasia" and it can also be induced by medicines that help inhibit nerve pain. A bud of mine was having problems and was getting concerned about maybe losing his marbles, and his MD said one of the Rx he was taking had that side effect in how it blunted nerve responses for pain management.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 24, 2026 12:12 PM (rbvCR)

311 I read "We Have Not a Government" last week-- by George Van Cleve.

About the U.S. under The Articles of Confederation.

It was a hot mess & there was a lot more to it than Shays' Rebellion. Kind of an operational definition of "Balkanization."

Both the northern states AND the southern states were interested in secession-- getting an early start on it, as it were.

Posted by: mnw at May 24, 2026 12:16 PM (RCjYY)

312 "As was 'Venus and the Seven Sexes' by personal fave SF author, William Tenn. I guess he's been forgotten now."

Not totally forgotten, Naturalfake, I have his complete collection in paperback and also in the two-volume NESFA hardback collection ("(Immodest Proposals," and "Here Comes Civilization") which is still available. I'm also pretty sure I have his Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction dedication issue (that was a thing way back when) with a somewhat caricatured picture of him on the cover.

But I take your point. There were lots of really good SF authors from the 40s through 60s or 70s who didn't publish much except in the pulps, or who have fallen into obscurity but deserve much better. Avram Davidson and R.A. Lafferty are among those that are brought up here frequently by several posters who are fans. H. Beam Piper was another who dropped out of public view one his death but went through a revival a few decades back. That's one of the reasons I sought out and downloaded pdfs of SF magazines from the golden age, it provides me with interesting stories by very good writers who, for one reason or another, don't get reprinted or anthologized.

Posted by: Pope John 20th at May 24, 2026 12:28 PM (7ZRgl)

313 Mike Hammer, the medical term is "aphasia" and it can also be induced by medicines that help inhibit nerve pain. A bud of mine was having problems and was getting concerned about maybe losing his marbles, and his MD said one of the Rx he was taking had that side effect in how it blunted nerve responses for pain management.
Posted by: Kindltot
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I know. Having experienced a mild stroke *and* a subdural hematoma, when I say or do something particullary dumb, I say to people, 'Hey, don't blame me, I'm brain-damaged'.

That ought to borne in mind here also...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 12:37 PM (XeU6L)

314 '....when I say or do something particullary dumb'


Or, misspell a word.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2026 01:17 PM (XeU6L)

315 I don't have specific memories of my grandmother reading to me, but she must have, because I do remember her reading to my six year younger baby sister, tracing the words with her gnarled index finger. (She was terribly afflicted with Rheumatoid Arthritis) I know it rubbed off though, because I have very specific memory of first reading.
It was Feb of '46, a couple of months before my fifth birthday. I had got a new Batman comic book that day, and my mother promised that she would read it to.me at bedtime. My parents had another couple over for dinner, and then they stayed and sat around in the living room talking. My Dad was one month home from the Pacific (Seabee) so I'm sure it was interesting. When I asked my mother to come up and read, she put me off, saying, "Tomorrow."
After she tucked me in and went back downstairs, I got up, turned on the light and pulled out the new book, and surprised my self by knowing what most of the words in the balloons were, and could figure out the others between sounding them out and context. I never asked her to read to.me again.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 24, 2026 02:36 PM (mSL0+)

316 Then, I went to.school.
I wish that.I had had teachers in 1st and 2nd grade like Wolfus and TP.
I was terribly (undiagnosed) nearsighted, so.I couldn't read the blackboard. Then, when handed new instructional material -aimed a new non-readers - I would polish it off almost immediately. Between those two, I wasn't able to respond to questions from the teacher about a passage from a book that I'd finished a month ago, or something written on the blackboard. I also got into fights with the two school bullies on a regular basis. I was a problem child, relegated to the "slow" group and mostly ignored.
It wasn't until we moved at the end of second grade where a new teacher, uninfluenced by teacher's break room gossip, noticed that I wasn't stupid, just nearsighted.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 24, 2026 03:08 PM (mSL0+)

317 I used to read to my younger brother and sister, and, later my own children. I missed that time in my life, so when my brother was in nursing care, and not able to sustain much reading, I started reading from The Fellowship of the Rings.
We both enjoyed it immensely.
Pick an older novel for this. In earlier times, these books were written to be read aloud. The story comes alive, when you speak the words on the page.

Posted by: Linda S Fox at May 25, 2026 06:41 AM (7Rs+y)

Daily Tech News 24 May 2026

Top Story

Tech News

  • What's the best $100 CPU right now? (Tom's Hardware)

    This probably matters mostly to people who already have RAM and want to revive an old system because they can't afford to build a new one. The article compared Intel's 12100F ($80) and 14100F ($100)with AMD's Ryzen 5 5500 across a range of games and productivity tasks.

    And the answer is, well, it depends. The 14100F is faster but runs hotter than the others. The 5500 is a six-core chip while the two Intel models are four cores (and no efficiency cores) so it pulls ahead on multi-threaded productivity.

    All the chips run on dead platforms with no future upgrade path... Except that these are the slowest, cheapest chips on each platform so dead or not you have a lot of options. The 16-core 5950X from AMD and the 24-core 14900K from Intel are still readily available in stores. The 14900K is significantly faster than the 5950X... If you run it with DDR5 memory, where this article assumes older DDR4.


  • Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for its free tier? (AMD)

    Because fuck you, apparently. An AMD representative responded, but did not answer the question.



Demo Interlude



That might not seem particularly impressive at first glance. Maybe in 1981.

But if you watch the beginning closely, you'll see the directory listing. The code that delivers this is 16 bytes.

This article explains how it works, including a complete assembly language listing.



Musical Interlude



Not Hololive's biggest hit - I didn't even know Kaela had an original song - but I like this one. Even if I don't understand a word of it - it's in Bahasa Indonesian.



Disclaimer: But who isn't these days?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM




Comments

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 04:31 AM (P3X50)

2 Memories!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 24, 2026 04:31 AM (/HDaX)

3 w00t 2nd

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)

4 3 w00t 2nd

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)
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The third was angry that day, my friend.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 04:32 AM (P3X50)

5 Really, really expensive memories.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 24, 2026 04:32 AM (/HDaX)

6 Mornin'

I'm going to bed soon. The problem with midshift is when I go on vacation, I have to get on dayshift mode. Not that easy. I'm not leaving till Tuesday so I still have a couple of days to un-vampire myself.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 04:36 AM (sAmhv)

7 hahahahaha Biden's Dog

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:36 AM (6wpGE)

8 Super beautiful sunny and pleasantly cool day up here in the mountains of northern Israel.

Lotsa email and work to catch up on, let alone maintaining a few things here in the vacation house.

Mybe l8r.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 04:44 AM (P3X50)

9 G'Day everyone
Trying to decide if getting up or not

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:46 AM (Ia/+0)

10 Re the White House shooting:

I see the enemies of America are sending their Best.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 04:48 AM (P3X50)

11 Just read Neo's take on this shootjng, skunds like this guy was a real mental illness case.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:50 AM (Ia/+0)

12 Just read Neo's take on this shootjng, skunds like this guy was a real mental illness case.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 04:50 AM (Ia/+0)
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Wonder how he obtained the gun.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 04:58 AM (P3X50)

13 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 05:05 AM (u82oZ)

14 Fun (and different!) musical selections.

"Relakanlah!" means "Let it go," according to google translate.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 05:05 AM (6wpGE)

15 About the White House shooter:

We need mental institutions to isolate the insane, or ship them to Canada for medical treatment.

The experimental data is in. Unhoused mentally il people harm society.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 05:08 AM (u82oZ)

16 I'm just loving me these Pratt commercials. You have to watch till the very end:

https://tinyurl.com/5n94w3es

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 05:08 AM (P3X50)

17 OK, here's a who page of Pratt ads:

https://tinyurl.com/yc4s6wjn

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 05:10 AM (P3X50)

18 "Hearing God's voice. " A devotional on Psam 25 1-12 . I don't think most people read these devotionals but me, but I liked it. 😊I appreciated the thoughtful investigation of the writer.

https://tinyurl.com/2wxrc89w

And a blessed Pentecost to those who celebrate it!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2026 05:11 AM (OYsYV)

19 whole

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 05:11 AM (P3X50)

20 Up early. Too early.

Have a great morning, everyone.

May your day start with zephyrs, fluffy clouds, and crepuscular rays, and then get better.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 05:13 AM (u82oZ)

21 And I am taking tomorrow off from ye olde ASHQ,, so I wanted to share this account of a great Christian, Catholic and priest, Fr. Emil Kapaun who came from Kansas, became army chaplain and died in a prison camp in Korea during the Korean War. What an inspirational life! From the "NC Register":

https://tinyurl.com/4cje4zvt

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2026 05:18 AM (OYsYV)

22
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 24, 2026 05:27 AM (AMvSw)

23 And thanks to the people who prayed for "I" . She is a dear lady in her 90's who comes to the service I do at the nursing home, even though she is RC. She had been in the hospital but was back again so she was better, so I was thankful to God for that. I am so grateful to the dear folks over there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2026 05:28 AM (OYsYV)

24 True!

Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
13h
They really do believe Stephen Colbert millionaire has a right to a television show

Congressman Greg Casar
@RepCasar
17h
Colbert got cancelled because CBS’ owner wanted to suck up to Trump.

Over and over, billionaires are auctioning off our 1st Amendment.

This isn’t about the rights of a TV host.

It’s about all our rights to live in a country where the president doesn’t dictate who says what.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 05:46 AM (6wpGE)

25 I didn't get up

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 05:47 AM (Ia/+0)

26 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 24, 2026 05:51 AM (wrsGP)

27 Evening and morning to all the AoSHQ satellites on this Sunday of an American three-day weekend!

According to local radar, the rain has a big gap in it and I might be able to work out if I don't dawdle.

"But, Sergeant Carter -- I *feel* like dawdlin'!"

"Move it, move it, MOVE IT!!!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 05:55 AM (wzUl9)

28 Did anything big happen in America overnight? What was this about two potential assassins taken out by the Secret Service yesterday near the White House?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 05:57 AM (wzUl9)

29 One mentally ill assassin killed. One innocent bystander injured.

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 05:59 AM (lJ0H4)

30 Dude was schizophrenic and thought he was Jesus Christ. Had an obsession with the White House. Was known to the SS.

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 06:02 AM (lJ0H4)

31 We're all wondering how he got access to the gun.

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 06:02 AM (lJ0H4)

32 https://tinyurl.com/3tzysxju
Legalinsurrection.com identified shooter

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)

33 Dude was schizophrenic and thought he was Jesus Christ. Had an obsession with the White House. Was known to the SS.
Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026


***
So yet another example of somebody who ought to be in a hospital or otherwise confined, instead of moving around in public waiting to do somebody harm.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 06:05 AM (wzUl9)

34 The furry thugs are giving me the alligator eye, my term for their hinting that I'm starving them. Or maybe it's the owl eye. Either way, I know what they want.

Hard to believe this month is nearly over; one more week to go.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 06:08 AM (wzUl9)

35 So yet another example of somebody who ought to be in a hospital or otherwise confined, instead of moving around in public waiting to do somebody harm.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Yep

Posted by: Tuna at May 24, 2026 06:09 AM (lJ0H4)

36 Dr. Cyclops from 1940 was on Svengoolie last night. I hadn't realized it was in color -- the first SF film, IMDb says, filmed in the three-strip Technicolor. The effects were marvelous, with the 12-inch-tall people taking apart a scissors to make a sword, climbing on thick books to reach a height, and having to dodge an alligator and the doctor's black cat. One quibble: When a cat is stalking its prey, or watching at a mouse hole, it does not growl or hiss as in this film and many others. It is utterly silent.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 06:13 AM (wzUl9)

37 Ii remember Dr Cyclops now

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:20 AM (Ia/+0)

38 Shooting at the White House was the core message of the New Testament. WWJS.

Posted by: The Books of Armaments at May 24, 2026 06:22 AM (Jxl54)

39
Good morning, Hordians. In deference to Her Majesty's wishes, I'll be going to Mass locally at 9:00. She's in Michigan and concerned that every road in Houston is underwater. There's no indication of high water anywhere right now and no rain is expected this morning, but I'll be nice. Even though going to this parish's Novus Ordo Mass is no spiritually uplifting experience.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 06:25 AM (HdYcL)

40 Morning Horde...How goes it?

I won't be around for the Sunday Morning Book Thread today--other duties to attend to.

I've started reading the Eisenhorn series of Warhammer 40K novels by Dan Abnett.

I'm only two chapters into the first book and it's already as bat-shit insane as I had hoped. Should be a fun read.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 24, 2026 06:35 AM (gnNyN)

41 "Just read Neo's take on this shootjng, skunds like this guy was a real mental illness case.
Posted by: Skip"

So. Typical Democrat.

mornin yall

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 06:39 AM (vFG9F)

42 "Just read Neo's take on this shootjng, skunds like this guy was a real mental illness case.
Posted by: Skip"

So. Typical Democrat.

mornin yall
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 06:39 AM (vFG9F)
----
Forget "common sense gun control."

I want common sense nutjob control laws that are actually enforced.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 24, 2026 06:41 AM (gnNyN)

43 Any mental illness health care was hopelessly destroyed long ago. They are free to put their mental illness onto the public

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 06:46 AM (Ia/+0)

44 The lovely Dani Beckstrom is doing NYC weather today.
Wife is working.
Kid is sleeping.
It takes like 10 nespresso pods to get one cup of coffee. Why do people use this thing?

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 06:47 AM (m6Eem)

45 I have filled out the FFL paperwork once, but, couldn’t he just lie long enough to get a gun?

Posted by: Accomack at May 24, 2026 06:53 AM (HQEEh)

46 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 24, 2026 07:01 AM (2Ez/1)

47 FenelonSpoke

There are local memorials to Fr. Emil Kapaun. The Emil Kapaun Tomb is in the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, Wichita. A Museum and Parish is in his hometown of Pilsen, Kansas.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:03 AM (u82oZ)

48 @15/NaCly Dog: "or ship them to Canada for medical treatment. "

Welcome to Canada. Please sign here for your complimentary MAID service.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 07:09 AM (O7YUW)

49 "President Donald Trump announced on Saturday that a peace deal between the United States, Iran, and other regional partners has been “largely negotiated”, including the opening of the Strait of Hormuz"


fd announced on Sunday that any peace deal with Islamic fanatics is doomed from the start.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:10 AM (vFG9F)

50 FenelonSpoke

St. John Nepomucene Church in Pilsen, Kansas has tours available about Fr. Emil Kapaun.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:13 AM (u82oZ)

51 Fr. Emil Kapaun, one of the quiet heroes whose memory to cherish. Thanks, FS!

Posted by: Shen Nan I Gan at May 24, 2026 07:13 AM (iTLFD)

52
Fr. Emil Kapaun, one of the quiet heroes whose memory to cherish. Thanks, FS!
Posted by: Shen Nan I Gan at May 24, 2026 07:13 AM (iTLFD)


When I say my Rosary, I ask the intercession of Fr. Kapaun for one of the Horde.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 07:16 AM (HdYcL)

53 fd

The Iranian IRCG is waiting us out, relying on Democrats and "mass media" (BIRM) to save them.

Meanwhile, I would expect we are running the new drone production line at full capacity, shipping the drones to the Middle East, and having CENTCOM program the targets. We should be stacking them like firewood. The drones will be the first strike wave, IMHO.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:17 AM (u82oZ)

54 Had taken my flag down other day when storm was coming and didn't put it back up yet. So tomorrow will but can't have it at 1/2 staff as its anchored at top.
Guess it just will have to be that way

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 07:17 AM (Ia/+0)

55
Music for disgruntled employees: Samsung Blue

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 07:18 AM (s9VOe)

56 Good morning everyone. Thankfully, more, much needed, rain in the forecast for today and this week. Have a peaceful and pleasant Sunday.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 24, 2026 07:18 AM (4BekB)

57
Sun is coming up and it looks like it will be sunny, at least for a while this morning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 07:19 AM (HdYcL)

58
Music for disgruntled employees: Samsung Blue
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 07:18 AM (s9VOe)


Is anyone ever gruntled?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 07:19 AM (HdYcL)

59 Good morning morons

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 07:19 AM (RIvkX)

60 "Music for disgruntled employees: Samsung Blue
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot"

Weeping like a willow?

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:21 AM (vFG9F)

61
Hello, assembly my old friend ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 07:21 AM (s9VOe)

62 Salty I anm afraid that is the case too

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 07:21 AM (Ia/+0)

63 fd announced on Sunday that any peace deal with Islamic fanatics is doomed from the start.
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:10 AM (vFG9F)
=====

It will be as successful as the Gaza sham.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 07:21 AM (RIvkX)

64 For the meme starved, this was a good weekend. Add this to the usual Saturday meme collectors:
https://midwestchick.com/2026/05/24/ sunday-meme-drop-184/

Mind the gap.

The meme about how long it took a bag of potato chips bought in Indiana to pop while going up Pikes Peak is a keeper. The differential pressure gas laws in action, proving we live in an atmosphere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:22 AM (u82oZ)

65 50s continue all day, mid 70s tomorrow and looks like clearing, hope its early in morning for the parade

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 07:22 AM (Ia/+0)

66
gruntled
adjective

grun·​tled ˈgrən-tᵊld
informal + often humorous
: in good humor : HAPPY, CONTENTED

Once, he was gruntled—a wife and a kid, a good job—but because he devoted too much time to the latter, the formers packed up and left.
—Steven Rea


Now, me, on the other hand, could not use this word without snickering at the memory of Monty Python members referring to "grunties" in one of their sketches.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 07:24 AM (s9VOe)

67 We are fighting with a 8th Century country with 21 Century technology

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 07:26 AM (Ia/+0)

68
We do recall, of course, the 60s television show "Gruntled Ben", about a boy (Clint Howard) and his black bear pal, Ben?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 07:27 AM (s9VOe)

69 "Autonomous lawnmowers caught funneling Wi-Fi credentials to Chinese tech firms"

Surprising no one except the Experts.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:29 AM (vFG9F)

70
Please stand clear of the closing doors!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 07:29 AM (s9VOe)

71 Skip

Also with a 21 Century attitude.

The Mongol Sack of Bagdad, and why they attacked in the first place, should be a forever memory in the Islamic world. Alas.

One solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant solves the entire problem. But I'd be satisfied if every urban center in Iran has no electrical power. Use IR to find the diesel generator, and hit them too.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:32 AM (u82oZ)

72
Surprising no one except the Experts.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:29 AM (vFG9F)



"What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass." - Lord Melbourne

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 24, 2026 07:32 AM (HdYcL)

73
The movie, "The League of Autonomous Lawnmowers" will meld today's networking cyber crime rings with the pixelated horror that was "The Lawnmower Man".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 07:34 AM (s9VOe)

74 It's in assembly?!
Be still my beating heart. I did Atari assembly language back when nerds knew what "De Re Atari" was.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2026 07:37 AM (kU0PQ)

75 Memes? We got moar memes, courtesy of Stately McDaniel Manor:

https://tinyurl.com/55a2ryf8

A good Sunday morning to all!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 07:38 AM (Ucgf4)

76 {{{I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper}}}

Thank you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:39 AM (u82oZ)

77 Salty!! Hope you're doing well!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 07:40 AM (Ucgf4)

78 The Autonomous Funneling Lawnmowers would be a good name for a rock band.

Posted by: In the spirit of Dave Barry at May 24, 2026 07:41 AM (2Ez/1)

79 78 The Autonomous Funneling Lawnmowers would be a good name for a rock band.
Posted by: In the spirit of Dave Barry at May 24, 2026 07:41 AM (2Ez/1)


I saw AFL open for the Stochastic Weed Whackers at the Forum back in '88.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 07:44 AM (Ucgf4)

80 >snort

Posted by: In the spirit of Dave Barry at May 24, 2026 07:45 AM (2Ez/1)

81 I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

I am.

Tomorrow I will go to the Kansas Veteran's Cemetery for a Memorial Day event.

I will visit my wife's grave there as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:46 AM (u82oZ)

82 @64/NaCly Dog: "Mind the gap."

Use TinyURL, then there's no need for a gap.

https://tinyurl.com/mt2zyjpm

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 07:47 AM (O7YUW)

83 Last night the power went on and off 10,000 times because there were some limbs blowing up against the transformer on the pole. It put on a pretty good show. I pulled the disconnects for both A/C units. Hopefully nothing else got fried last night. It's not windy now and I put in a call to the power company.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 07:47 AM (vFG9F)

84 Grumpy and Recalcitrant

My iOS is so old tiny URL will not run.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:50 AM (u82oZ)

85 @84: "My iOS is so old tiny URL will not run."

Ouch.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 07:52 AM (O7YUW)

86 Good morning!

Colbert got cancelled because CBS’ owner wanted to suck up to Trump.

Over and over, billionaires are auctioning off our 1st Amendment.


Apparently, the show was losing $40 million per year. It had maybe 200 people on staff? That's a lot of money spent for such a crap production.

That's not a FREE speech, not even close. Meanwhile, people like Joe Rogan can create speech that actually engages people for a fraction of the cost.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 07:53 AM (X8xt3)

87 Your iOS stops you from pasting into tiny url? That's a new one.

That's all you have to do is to paste the link into a box. tiny url does the rest of the work.

Posted by: Will Robinson at May 24, 2026 07:54 AM (zBgIx)

88 Grumpy and Recalcitrant

Otherwise my 9 year old iMac runs fine.

The lack of strong backward compatibility is responsible for a lot of electronic waste. Won't computer companies think of Gaia?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:54 AM (u82oZ)

89 https://tinyurl.com/

Posted by: Will Robinson at May 24, 2026 07:54 AM (zBgIx)

90 @84: "My iOS is so old tiny URL will not run
+++++

Perhaps your lawnmower can do it.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 07:57 AM (2Ez/1)

91 It’s tragic, but some people need to be locked up. Lock up the crooks, not the toothpaste. In the same way the psychos need to be confined.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 07:57 AM (DSQyT)

92 From the article Fen linked to @21:

As the 2023 documentary The Magazine and the Miracle: Finding Father Kapaun opens, viewers hear the priest's voice - quoting Jesus about his peace that can be found "even in suffering, in want or even in time of war" - overlaid with war images.

The program will re-air on EWTN on Memorial Day. (10am Central. 20 mins.)


Posted by: olddog in mo at May 24, 2026 07:58 AM (wrsGP)

93
Otherwise my 9 year old iMac runs fine.
*
The lack of strong backward compatibility is responsible for a lot of electronic waste. Won't computer companies think of Gaia?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026


***
Both my iMac and MacBook Air are from 2014 or so, and do fine. Both could use more RAM, but I'm not sure the MacBook is upgradeable.

"Electronic waste"? "This message composed with 100% recycled electrons"!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 07:58 AM (wzUl9)

94 Will Robinson

This happened this year. Tiny URL will not open.

Same with X. I can not see videos without xcancel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2026 07:59 AM (u82oZ)

95 I'm back from my workout; missed the rain, which has not yet started again. Whassup?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:00 AM (wzUl9)

96 @90/Quarter Twenty: "Perhaps your lawnmower can do it."

Too pixelated, probably.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 08:02 AM (O7YUW)

97 Good morning Horde thx Pixy
Raining here today, rained yesterday , is going to rain tomorrow. I'm sensing a trend

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 24, 2026 08:03 AM (FpbZP)

98 >>The movie, "The League of Autonomous Lawnmowers" will meld today's networking cyber crime rings with the pixelated horror that was "The Lawnmower Man".


More like "Maximum Overdrive2: 'Smart' Tech Gone Wild"

Posted by: Lizzy at May 24, 2026 08:05 AM (X8xt3)

99 @95/Wolfus: " I'm back from my workout; ... Whassup?"

What you missed while you were out:
https://youtu.be/BmD47osvbxo

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 08:08 AM (O7YUW)

100 I was gonna be a thing.

Posted by: Edward Lawnmowerhands at May 24, 2026 08:08 AM (2Ez/1)

101 A lot of people appear convinced that Trump will surrender today. Iran keeps the uranium, they stay in power, the US pretends we “won” and just walks away with nothing accomplished.

I sure hope not,

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 08:10 AM (U0opd)

102 "My iOS is so old tiny URL will not run.
Posted by: NaCly Dog"

I'm so old I won't run either.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:11 AM (vFG9F)

103 “ Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me, and to the blameless I will show my salvation.”

Psalm 50:23

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2026 08:13 AM (aZ9eR)

104 Good Health To All, From Rexall!

Posted by: Your Rexall Druggist at May 24, 2026 08:13 AM (oftw2)

105
Example #3,492,611 of You American Bastards and Your Stupid Holidays Where You Grill Terrible, Unhealthy Meat On your Eeeeevil Backyard Grills Are Bad and You're Going To get Cancer

https://instapundit.com/798786/


Spoiler! It's wrong. Fake and Gay Science Ahoy!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 08:13 AM (iJfKG)

106 POTUS just now posted on TS. I don't think it's a surrender pic .

https://tinyurl.com/2wdv4dru

Posted by: Will Robinson at May 24, 2026 08:15 AM (zBgIx)

107 Do Not Hump!

Posted by: Running A Trainyard at May 24, 2026 08:18 AM (oftw2)

108 " A lot of people appear convinced that Trump will surrender today. Iran keeps the uranium, they stay in power, the US pretends we “won” and just walks away with nothing accomplished.

I sure hope not,
Posted by: Tom Servo"

A 90 day war is too long for a country with the attention span of a gnat.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:18 AM (vFG9F)

109 Yep. That's EXACTLY what we want:
to be scolded by a fake female doctor with a pink stethoscope draped around her shoulders.

Posted by: Guys standing in front of their grills at May 24, 2026 08:19 AM (2Ez/1)

110 I think Macbook Airs can't be upgraded. It's true of 2011s.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM (7T8ei)

111 Spoiler! It's wrong. Fake and Gay Science Ahoy!

Posted by: naturalfake

Gay Science is Best Science.

Posted by: The Grand Poof at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM (oftw2)

112
106 POTUS just now posted on TS. I don't think it's a surrender pic .

https://tinyurl.com/2wdv4dru
Posted by: Will Robinson at May 24, 2026 08:15 AM (zBgIx)

I truly hope he’s serious, and not just blowing smoke. He’s been blowing a whole lot of smoke for 6 weeks now, and the Iranians are clearly convinced it’s all a big show.
Looks like We should know for sure today or tomorrow.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM (U0opd)

113 Truth Social want to verify that I am a human over and over again and never lets me in. I am starting to wonder if I really am a human.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM (vFG9F)

114 Truth Social want to verify that I am a human over and over again and never lets me in. I am starting to wonder if I really am a human.
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM (vFG9F)
----
When I went to the Instapundit link about the grill-caused death cancer, Instapundit wanted me to verify I was human.

This seems to be a trend going forward, as even a fan-made wiki site I go to wants to know if I'm human when I visit it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 24, 2026 08:25 AM (gnNyN)

115 113 Truth Social want to verify that I am a human over and over again and never lets me in. I am starting to wonder if I really am a human.
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM
###

It suspects you might be a lawnmower.

Posted by: Guys standing in front of their grills at May 24, 2026 08:26 AM (2Ez/1)

116 Sock fail.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 24, 2026 08:26 AM (2Ez/1)

117 Truth Social want to verify that I am a human over and over again and never lets me in. I am starting to wonder if I really am a human.
Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM (vFG9F)

I don't know if TS needs you to be signed up to view the page or not. I know I've never had to verify myself before but I'm a member.

Posted by: Will Robinson at May 24, 2026 08:27 AM (HIzgC)

118 If Cloudflare goes down, most of the internet will be unreachable.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2026 08:28 AM (Ucgf4)

119 "wants to verify that I am a human over and over again and never lets me in."
++++

Used to date her.

Posted by: Rimshot at May 24, 2026 08:29 AM (2Ez/1)

120 What you missed while you were out:
https://youtu.be/BmD47osvbxo
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026


***
My late Marie-Antoinette and Tatiana Romanova could have done that, had they lived together and learned from each other!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:32 AM (wzUl9)

121 "It suspects you might be a lawnmower.
Posted by: Guys standing in front of their grills"

I am a lawnmower. It is one of my functions. I am also programmed to take out the trash and to catch spiders.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:33 AM (vFG9F)

122 I think Macbook Airs can't be upgraded. It's true of 2011s.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 24, 2026


***
Well, I'm not using it for gaming or any other memory-intensive operations, so the 4GB should be fine.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:33 AM (wzUl9)

123 119 "wants to verify that I am a human over and over again and never lets me in."
++++

Used to date her.
Posted by: Rimshot at May 24, 2026 08:29 AM (2Ez/1)

Ha! You are on a roll.

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 08:34 AM (6wpGE)

124 I am not programmed to load a dishwasher though. The approved method is not logical.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:35 AM (vFG9F)

125 What you missed while you were out:
https://youtu.be/BmD47osvbxo
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026


***
And that makes me want to pull up the intro to the M:I pilot from 1966 an watch it again. One of the best pilots ever done, and that intro style is amazing.

(No, M:I didn't create that style of using clips from the upcoming episode. I Spy used a similar style the previous year.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:35 AM (wzUl9)

126 Found another place to send stories. Let's see if I can avoid another goose egg.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 08:36 AM (1Ff7Z)

127 umm...what happened to barnhardt? Her meme site looks like the groypers took over.

As "they" say, "That's a wrap!

Posted by: Will Robinson at May 24, 2026 08:37 AM (HIzgC)

128 @115/Guys standing in front of their grills: "It suspects you might be a lawnmower."

Cloudflare: Are you a Human?

https://tinyurl.com/ywc4xp5n

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 08:38 AM (O7YUW)

129 In other news, Travis Kelp shotgunned a beer at a ballgame and passed out.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2026 08:38 AM (vFG9F)

130 Found another place to send stories. Let's see if I can avoid another goose egg.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026


***
OE, I have a short out to Goblins and Galaxies, which was on your list, and my mystery novel is at Joffe Books in England.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:39 AM (wzUl9)

131 I truly hope he’s serious, and not just blowing smoke. He’s been blowing a whole lot of smoke for 6 weeks now, and the Iranians are clearly convinced it’s all a big show.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 08:22 AM (U0opd)
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"Speak softly but carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt

I am lost here, leaning toward pessimism.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 08:39 AM (P3X50)

132 The real mystery is how Colbert got on TV in the first place.

The man is about as funny as a carbuncle on my anus.

Posted by: Zombie Sam Kinison at May 24, 2026 08:41 AM (OoF9t)

133 The real mystery is how Colbert got on TV in the first place.

The man is about as funny as a carbuncle on my anus.
Posted by: Zombie Sam Kinison at May 24, 2026


***
Wasn't he the guy who did those GM "Mr. Goodwrench" commercials once upon a time?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:42 AM (wzUl9)

134 POTUS just now posted on TS. I don't think it's a surrender pic .

https://tinyurl.com/2wdv4dru

Posted by: Will Robinson at May 24, 2026 08:15 AM (zBgIx)
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Seems addressed to Cuba and Mexico.

j/k

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 08:43 AM (P3X50)

135 I was informed that you have to wash the dishes before you put them in the dishwasher

I left the kitchen and went to the garage where physics makes sense

Posted by: I weep for humanity at May 24, 2026 08:44 AM (jrgJz)

136 I have thought about taking my current system and slapping in a new graphics card, but the cards are not much better than the memory.

Before that, I kind of wanted to see what came across from the Steam machines.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 08:45 AM (bss/y)

137 Something something about chrome & trailer hitch ball I expect.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 08:45 AM (DSQyT)

138 >>The real mystery is how Colbert got on TV in the first place.

He was a semi-regular guest on Bill O'Reilly's 'The Factor' on Fox News. That's when I first became aware of him and how unfunny he is.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 24, 2026 08:46 AM (J4Dwc)

139 "Move it, move it, MOVE IT!!!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 05:55 AM (wzUl9)

Sgt. Carter was more of Move it, move, move, move.

The other order was CPO Horkey, or Sharkey's guy, Peter Isacksen, Seaman Lester Pruitt.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 08:47 AM (1Ff7Z)

140 135 I was informed that you have to wash the dishes before you put them in the dishwasher

I left the kitchen and went to the garage where physics makes sense
Posted by: I weep for humanity at May 24, 2026 08:44 AM (jrgJz)

I've never understood this, either. What's the point of the dishwasher?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 08:47 AM (h7ZuX)

141 118 If Cloudflare goes down, most of the internet will be unreachable.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper


This site though will remain up. No Cloudflare involved.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 24, 2026 08:48 AM (BLOW1)

142 Barnhardt is the kind of joo-hater who says, "well, so many people hate them, they must be doing something!"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 24, 2026 08:48 AM (RIvkX)

143 141 118 If Cloudflare goes down, most of the internet will be unreachable.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

This site though will remain up. No Cloudflare involved.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 24, 2026 08:48 AM (BLOW1)

YAY!

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 08:49 AM (6wpGE)

144 What a dreary day

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 08:50 AM (Ia/+0)

145 6 Mornin'

I'm going to bed soon. The problem with midshift is when I go on vacation, I have to get on dayshift mode. Not that easy. I'm not leaving till Tuesday so I still have a couple of days to un-vampire myself.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst

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Ll
I worked at 4:30pm to 1:00am shift as a summer job. Kept me out of trouble at night. But I started going to bed later, and later, after, like 6am. I was just working and sleeping

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 24, 2026 08:51 AM (v71Ni)

146 A humorous look at the New and Improved "Hey, Horrible People of the Western World, Hurry Up and Go Extinct" Anti-Natalist, Anti-Faily, Anti-Baby Propaganda:

https://tinyurl.com/4sphraf6



Via Insty.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 08:51 AM (iJfKG)

147
"Speak softly but carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt

I am lost here, leaning toward pessimism.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 24, 2026 08:39 AM (P3X50)

Speak very loudly and carry a pool floatie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 08:51 AM (U0opd)

148 I have thought about taking my current system and slapping in a new graphics card, but the cards are not much better than the memory.

Before that, I kind of wanted to see what came across from the Steam machines.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2026 08:45 AM (bss/y)

Just got a B580 to replace my GTX 1660. Took a bit of doing under Linux Mint, but it's pretty slick and still reasonable.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2026 08:52 AM (dK+Kv)

149
What a dreary day

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 08:50 AM


at least it's not snowing

still a week away from taking the ice scraper out of the truck

cold weather climates suck

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 24, 2026 08:54 AM (AMvSw)

150 OE, I have a short out to Goblins and Galaxies, which was on your list, and my mystery novel is at Joffe Books in England.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 08:39 AM (wzUl9)

Don't forget to post on ALH....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 24, 2026 08:55 AM (1Ff7Z)

151 Speak very loudly and carry a pool floatie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 08:51 AM (U0opd)

A lot of people making a lot of money predicting Trump’s doom. Don't give it away for free.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2026 08:55 AM (dK+Kv)

152
Hey Computer Oriented Morons o0r Ettes:

Is Cloudflare really that effective in preventing Denial of Service attacks, etc?

Or, is it a supernatural talisman you hang on your website to keep the goblins away?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 08:55 AM (iJfKG)

153 Iran has now released a draft of the agreement.
Iran gets everything it demanded.
The US agrees to tuck its tail between its legs and run away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 08:55 AM (U0opd)

154 Dishwashers have a rotary disposal mechanism a lot like the Insinkerator garbage disposals. They can’t handle bones but dishes should not need to be washed before using a dishwasher. One of the problems is they ruined detergents some years ago.

I used to buy TSP for addition to laundy and dish soap, but even TSP isn’t TSP any longer.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 24, 2026 08:56 AM (DSQyT)

155 Iran gets everything it demanded.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 08:55 AM (U0opd)

They get to keep their destroyed nuke program, their sunk Navy, and their dead homies?

Oh no.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2026 08:58 AM (dK+Kv)

156 146 A humorous look at the New and Improved "Hey, Horrible People of the Western World, Hurry Up and Go Extinct" Anti-Natalist, Anti-Faily, Anti-Baby Propaganda:

https://tinyurl.com/4sphraf6
Via Insty.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2026 08:51 AM (iJfKG)

Wow. That's really overwrought. Looks like another lesbian feminist has decided the natural way is oppressive.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026 09:00 AM (h7ZuX)

157 I was informed that you have to wash the dishes before you put them in the dishwasher

I left the kitchen and went to the garage where physics makes sense
Posted by: I weep for humanity at May 24, 2026 08:44 AM (jrgJz)

I've never understood this, either. What's the point of the dishwasher?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 24, 2026


***
I haven't used mine in some years except as a "staging area" -- I wash the dishes, place them in there to dry, and then take them out when I need them again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 24, 2026 09:00 AM (wzUl9)

158 Bring your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOK NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2026 09:02 AM (Ia/+0)

159
Iran has released a draft. They have a history of fabricating things. I'll wait and see.

The Arab countries in the region seem to be putting a drag on action. I wonder what they're saying behind the scenes, and why.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (biznJ)

160 They have a history of fabricating things. I'll wait and see.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (biznJ)

As does our media.

Wait and see versus preemptive hair on fire is prudent.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (dK+Kv)

161 @154/Common Tater: "Dishwashers have a rotary disposal mechanism a lot like the Insinkerator garbage disposals."

Not all of them. Some just have a removable strainer in the bottom to catch larger bits of food, and it's your job to remove and clean that after the full wash cycle. If you have one of those, it's a lot easier to hot-rinse the dishes off and place them in the dishwasher for a proper cleaning.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (O7YUW)

162
Not all of them. Some just have a removable strainer in the bottom to catch larger bits of food, and it's your job to remove and clean that after the full wash cycle. If you have one of those, it's a lot easier to hot-rinse the dishes off and place them in the dishwasher for a proper cleaning.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 09:10 AM (O7YU

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DITTO!

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 24, 2026 09:12 AM (UeLv+)

163 Grab a flashlight and look at your garbage disposal. See that black hose coming in to the side near the top? That's the drain from the dishwasher. Any food particles have to get (hopefully) macerated and then pass through that.

Not a very large diameter is it?

Posted by: Your plumber at May 24, 2026 09:23 AM (2Ez/1)

164 160 They have a history of fabricating things. I'll wait and see.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 24, 2026 09:04 AM (biznJ)

As does our media.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2026 09:08 AM (dK+Kv)

"They're the same picture."

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (6wpGE)

165 "They're the same picture."

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 09:24 AM (6wpGE)

The point is you cannot trust practically anything you hear and only half of what you see, because you're not seeing but half the picture.

There are known unknowns and unknown unknowns . . . , paraphrasing.

We know we don't have boots on the ground and place is not glassed. Both relative wins, in my book.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2026 09:31 AM (dK+Kv)

166 I don't wanna grow up!

Could do without the acne, though.

Posted by: The Eternal Teenager at May 24, 2026 10:37 AM (oftw2)

167 @165/Comrade Flounder: "The point is you cannot trust practically anything you hear and only half of what you see, because you're not seeing but half the picture. "

And with AI video getting better and better, that "half" is dropping quickly.

It'll get to the point of, "Just assume it's computer generated agitprop unless you were there in person."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 24, 2026 01:11 PM (O7YUW)

Saturday Night Club ONT - May 23, 2026 [D Squared]

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Welcome to Club ONT - a collaboration of The Disco and The Dino. Come in in, grab a drink or 3.

Raise one in honor of those who fought and died for this great country. They are the reason for this holiday weekend. "Time Will Not Dim the Glory of Their Deeds"

[Top photo: Flags for Memorial Day at Boston Common]


*****

Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

After Mass, the priest caught up with Mark and said, "Mark, I am so glad you decided to come to Mass. What made you come?"

Mark said, "I've got to be honest with you, Father. A while back, I misplaced my hat, and I really, really love that hat. I know that McGlynn had a hat just like mine, and I knew that McGlynn came to church every Sunday. I also knew that McGlynn had to take off his hat during Mass and figured he would leave it in the back of the church. So, I was going to leave after Communion and steal McGlynn's hat."

The priest said, "Well, Mark, I notice that you didn't steal McGlynn's hat. What changed your mind?"

Mark said, "Well, after I heard your sermon on the Ten Commandments, I decided that I didn't need to steal McGlynn’'s hat."

The priest gave Mark a big smile and said, "After I talked about 'Thou Shalt Not Steal,' you decided you would rather do without your hat than burn in Hell, right?"

Mark shook his head and said, "No, Father. After you talked about 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery,' I remembered where I left my hat."

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A drill sergeant was addressing a squad of 25 and said, "I have an easy job for the laziest man here. Put up your hand if you are the laziest."

24 men raised their hands, and the drill sergeant asked the other man, "Why didn't you raise your hand?"

The man replied, "Too much trouble raising the hand, Sarge."


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Drink of the Night

Tonight we drew the Six of Clubs from our deck of playing card cocktails

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Club ONT Department of Questioning Correlation and Causation

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True? Apparently so (according to Grok).

Ohio ranks #1 in the U.S. for library circulation per person. In 2023 data (analyzed and released around April 2026 by USA Facts / Institute of Museum and Library Services), Ohio led with 12.99 items checked out per resident (including physical and electronic materials).

Ohio ranks #1 in Mountain Dew sales according to the brand's own 2026 data. Mountain Dew (PepsiCo) released a list naming Ohio #1, followed by North Carolina, Michigan, Kentucky, and Florida. This appears to be total sales volume (not explicitly per capita in all reports).


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Club ONT Department of Cat Identification

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A leopard doesn't change its spots, but how do you know it is a leopard?


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Club ONT Department of Public Health

Brain-eating amoeba found in hot springs at 3 National Parks

A new study detected Naegleria fowleri, better known as "brain-eating amoeba" in thermal waters at Yellowstone, Grand Teton and Lake Mead.

The study, published in ACS ES&T Water, analyzed 185 water samples from 40 thermally impacted recreational waters between 2016 and 2024. Overall, 34% of the samples tested positive for N. fowleri. Samples were collected at Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Olympic National Park, Newberry National Volcanic Monument and Lake Mead. The amoeba was not detected in samples from Olympic or Newberry; however, other nonpathogenic Naegleria species were found there.

The amoeba does not infect people when contaminated water is swallowed. Infection can occur when warm freshwater containing N. fowleri enters the nose, allowing the amoeba to travel to the brain.

Most U.S. cases have been linked to swimming, diving or other water activities in warm freshwater. Fewer than 10 cases are typically reported in the United States each year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Symptoms can include headache, fever and nausea before worsening to confusion, seizures and coma. The infection often progresses quickly and can be fatal within days.

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Club ONT Department of Hellport Availability

Turkmenistan's fiery "Gates of Hell" crater is dimming

Recent data suggests the flames of Turkmenistan's famous crater are starting to go out.

The Darvaza Gas Crater, more commonly referred to as the "Door to Hell" or "Gates of Hell," is a 196-foot-wide pit of fire about the size of a soccer field located in Turkmenistan's remote Karakum Desert. The crater has been ablaze for more than 50 years and has been as much a popular tourist attraction as it's puzzled scientists.

BBC reports the crater has been ablaze for at least 40 years, but recent data suggest it is slowly dimming.

The flaming crater's heat intensity has reduced by over 75 percent over the last three years.

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Club ONT Jukebox

Getting fired up tonight!




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Happy Anniversary to those who celebrate


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Club ONT is brought to you tonight by: lil' buckaroos

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Club ONT regrets to inform our patrons that President Trump wanted to join us here tonight, but according to a message he sent to the DJT/Disco/Dino group chat:

"Circumstances pertaining to Government, and my love for the United States of America, do not allow me to do so."

Perhaps he will join us next week!

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1 right on

Posted by: IS Roth at May 23, 2026 10:01 PM (iY4+5)

2 1 right on
Posted by: IS Roth


.....or, is he?

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:02 PM (VHUov)

3 Caribbean Champagne looks like a fast way to a bad life decision.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 10:02 PM (gKWVE)

4 Hunt for Red October

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 10:04 PM (LHPAg)

5 Good evening Hordemates.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2026 10:05 PM (2WIwB)

6 * buffs knuckles on lapel *

I'm not sure if that counts as one CotW or two.

One with a footnote?

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:05 PM (VHUov)

7 Gene Loves Jezebel >> The Cult

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 10:06 PM (gKWVE)

8 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 23, 2026 10:06 PM (sAmhv)

9 7 year old: "Dad! Dad!"

Me: "Slow down, son. Now, what is it?"

7 year old: "What if Bigfoot is just a Wookie Lt. who got lost on the Land Nav course??"

Me: *leans in closer* "Tell me more."

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 10:07 PM (qx7Zg)

10 Tracking

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:07 PM (sqJYm)

11
Another week, another assassination attempt. Remember "stochastic terrorism"?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:09 PM (HdYcL)

12 Gene Loves Jezebel >> The Cult
Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 10:06 PM (gKWVE)


Fans of both and saw both live multiple times. Can't agree with you there.

Posted by: Doof at May 23, 2026 10:09 PM (QMAsf)

13 Jimmy plays the “A” chord backwards on that tune, kinda. It allows a hammer on with the index finger, it’s tricky to play if you can’t play “A” like that.

He has a guitar lesson on this one on YouTube. That’s pretty cool. If you watch his fingers and chords, it has been described as “Spider playing Twister”, which is about right.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 10:10 PM (3LcAa)

14 * buffs knuckles on lapel *

I'm not sure if that counts as one CotW or two.

One with a footnote?
Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:05 PM (VHUov)

***

Well done!
Two and an assist!
I'll be nominating you for inclusion into the comments of the year award and look forward to seeing you win at the awards show followed by the gala reception.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2026 10:10 PM (2WIwB)

15 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:11 PM (zZu0s)

16 Evening all. Did the Joos smoke another ayatollah today?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2026 10:11 PM (2PamV)

17 ***A new study detected Naegleria fowleri, better known as "brain-eating amoeba" in thermal waters at Yellowstone, Grand Teton and Lake Mead.
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We can't waste a minute, Nuke It Now!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:11 PM (sqJYm)

18 Thanks for the swell Saturday Night Club ONT, D Squared!

All gave some, some gave all. Let us never forget.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 23, 2026 10:12 PM (D/6p1)

19 Another week, another assassination attempt. Remember "stochastic terrorism"?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:09 PM (HdYcL)


One cannot hate the media enough. They will continue to stoke the fire of hatred.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2026 10:12 PM (2WIwB)

20 Brewers are getting smushed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 10:12 PM (A5RD0)

21 So it seems the White House was a Christian Extremist?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:13 PM (/lPRQ)

22 Not even a sidebar? I guess shooting at the white house is weak tea these days.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:13 PM (zZu0s)

23 So it seems the White House was a Christian Extremist?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:13 PM (/lPRQ)

Would Jesus Christ be considered a Christian? Or a Jew? I'd say Jew or neither. He is the object of a religion- not the religion itself.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:14 PM (zZu0s)

24 We know the shooter wasn't actually the Mashiach because the real Christ wouldn't announce himself

Posted by: Life Of Brian at May 23, 2026 10:15 PM (gKWVE)

25 Olympic National Park. Naegleria fowleri, better known as "brain-eating amoeba"

"Sol Duc Hot Springs is a resort located in Olympic National Park, Washington state, that is best known for its soaking pools, heated with the nearby hot springs."

Been there maybe forty years ago. Across the highway is Crescent Lake and it has the most beautiful deep blue water you'll ever have the pleasure of seeing.

Posted by: 13times at May 23, 2026 10:15 PM (44mUT)

26 Not even a sidebar? I guess shooting at the white house is weak tea these days.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:13 PM (zZu0s)

There hasn't been such violence near DC since the last time democrats started shooting.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 10:15 PM (1Ff7Z)

27 Its also hard because is he a worshiper. Of God maybe. Yet as a Catholic, that means he is worshiping other aspects of himself.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:15 PM (zZu0s)

28 What is exciting now is that after working for a short while the washer stopped working and started smelling like the magic smoke escaped.
So it is waiting for me in the driveway for me to pull the motor in order to replace it with a new one.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 10:16 PM (rbvCR)

29 Sorry I'm late, I thought that I grabbed the hand sanitizer. It was crazy glue.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 23, 2026 10:16 PM (0KINo)

30 "Circumstances pertaining to Government, and my love for the United States of America, do not allow me to do so."
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They're all at the White House but X only speculates.
...

It's 5:45 AM in Tehran and 5:17 in Aden; nothing happening tonight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:17 PM (sqJYm)

31 When you see blue smoke, the electronic gods are angry. One must take all the money out of your wallet and set it on fire in sacrifice. Summon the electric medicine man to bless the machine and take notice of your sacrifice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:17 PM (zZu0s)

32 Would Jesus Christ be considered a Christian? Or a Jew? I'd say Jew or neither. He is the object of a religion- not the religion itself.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Gotta give the MFM something to work with.
Why didn't the guy's shrinks just tell him to look in a mirror....

Given half the reporters in the country being virtual witnesses now we see why there was little speculation of who the shooter was, or misrepresentation, or even releasing the obvious - not a member of the Swedish Bikini Volleyball Team.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:18 PM (/lPRQ)

33 Turkmenistan's remote Karakum Desert. The crater has been ablaze for more than 50 years and has been as much a popular tourist attraction as it's puzzled scientists.
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Did anyone ever calculate the carbon footprint of that thing?

Posted by: Methos at May 23, 2026 10:19 PM (vSvIl)

34 Ohtani is such a little princess.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 10:19 PM (XwqDD)

35 White House shooter? They have to do something about what the media is doing to spin these people up

Posted by: 18-1 at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (sKqQm)

36 Is Centralia still the Silent-Hill of PA?

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (gKWVE)

37 "stochastic", that word has no relationship to any language that I know.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (sqJYm)

38 Ossifer, I literally live right over there....

Posted by: Nut Behind The Wheel at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (oftw2)

39 sto what

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (sqJYm)

40 Evenin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (77rzZ)

41 So it seems the White House was a “Christian Extremist”?
——-

Says who?

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (ISwP0)

42 I wonder if Eddie ever got that urinary infection cleared up.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 23, 2026 10:21 PM (syz1S)

43 "Circumstances pertaining to Government, and my love for the United States of America, do not allow me to do so."
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So great.
P

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 23, 2026 10:21 PM (jKGsh)

44 Is Centralia still the Silent-Hill of PA?
Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (gKWVE)

I think Centralia was what the game was based on. And yes, but they have bulldozed all the structures. Really does take all the fun out of it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:22 PM (zZu0s)

45 "stochastic", that word has no relationship to any language that I know.
——-

We used to order books from those guys in grade school

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 10:22 PM (ISwP0)

46 Also, BOOBS!

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2026 10:22 PM (77rzZ)

47 I don't believe you on the brain-eating umeeba* thing. It's been months and neither Candace nor Tucker have lapsed into a coma.

(* I'm not looking up how to spell it, again. That's how it's pronounced.)

Posted by: GWB at May 23, 2026 10:23 PM (kU0PQ)

48 So it seems the White House was a Christian Extremist?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:13 PM (/lPRQ)


I do not care.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2026 10:23 PM (2WIwB)

49 White House shooter? They have to do something about what the media is doing to spin these people up
Posted by: 18-1 at May 23, 2026 10:20 PM (sKqQm)

Remind them what happened to Julius Streicher after the war?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 10:23 PM (1Ff7Z)

50 Evening Horde, thx D Squared
Graham Parker lived around here , Woodstock specifically, for a time in the 90s. Saw him in concert a couple times. His song Big Man on Paper mentions the Hudson Valley Mall, which is pretty much empty. Parker was definitely hit and miss

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:23 PM (FpbZP)

51 Agent Orange might be my favorite punk band. Here's a song from them thst fits tonight's theme.

https://youtu.be/OBwqt-115lA

Posted by: tankdemon at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (0KINo)

52 Too late for the movie thread, but I figure I'd let folks know that Vinegar Syndrome releases are about 20 percent great to about 70 percent terrible (and not the good kind of terrible) with 10 percent misc.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (CHHv1)

53 Also, if you're close enough to notice those differences in spots? You're either in a zoo or won't have time to figure out which one is eating you.

Posted by: GWB at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (kU0PQ)

54 Hegseth arriving at White House.

https://tinyurl.com/dr2cxje5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (sqJYm)

55 Drink of the Night? I don't drink much lately - the docs would prefer I not drink at all, so I only drink medicinally. A couple of days ago, MiladyJo mixed up some rather potent Irish Cream. So far, we've had that on ice, and in coffee. Trying some tonight on ice cream. Just testing, y'know. Mmmm.

Posted by: mindful webworker - toteetler at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (0poB+)

56 "stochastic", that word has no relationship to any language that I know.

Posted by: Braenyard


Means random. But terrorism is not random... no more random than people buying Tide detergent. Media plays a significant role. Most media, at least degreed, have some study of advertising, propaganda, and mass culture. For many, being an "influencer" is their reason for being.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:25 PM (/lPRQ)

57 Eddie Murphy released ‘Party All The Time’ 41 years ago, May 23, 1985

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When my daughter was learning to use the toilet, I would sing "my girl likes to potty all the time, potty all the time, potty all the time...". At least she thought it was funny.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 23, 2026 10:25 PM (THY4u)

58 Drink of the Night? I don't drink much lately - the docs would prefer I not drink at all, so I only drink medicinally. A couple of days ago, MiladyJo mixed up some rather potent Irish Cream. So far, we've had that on ice, and in coffee. Trying some tonight on ice cream. Just testing, y'know. Mmmm.
Posted by: mindful webworker - toteetler at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (0poB+)


Pear brandy on ice cream is a wonderful dessert.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2026 10:26 PM (2WIwB)

59 When you see blue smoke, the electronic gods are angry. One must take all the money out of your wallet and set it on fire in sacrifice. Summon the electric medicine man to bless the machine and take notice of your sacrifice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 10:17 PM (zZu0s)
* * * *
My electric medicine man pronounced the dryer as dead with the washer not far behind. Same taking of money from wallet and sacrificing it. Ugh. Plus waiting two freaking weeks for the new set (but that's just a guess, could be sooner!). Appliances don't last like they used to. And don't get me started on the Wi-Fi crap they seem to come with nowadays!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 23, 2026 10:26 PM (D/6p1)

60 Best video of shots fired, White House - >

https://tinyurl.com/yws726ma

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:26 PM (sqJYm)

61 Also, if you're close enough to notice those differences in spots? You're either in a zoo or won't have time to figure out which one is eating you.
Posted by: GWB at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (kU0PQ)

According to some You Tuber, it wouldn't be a Cheetah because they are just big pussycats around humans.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 10:27 PM (1Ff7Z)

62 I remembered where I left my hat.

That one's going in my joke rotation.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:27 PM (VHUov)

63 Olympic National Park. Naegleria fowleri, better known as "brain-eating amoeba"
Posted by: 13times

If they show up at the Statehouse in Olympia they'll starve to death.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:27 PM (vhPr1)

64 I'm of two minds posting this John Schneider song.

https://youtu.be/ZkOsgU7zUEQ

It fits better for Veterans Day, but it touches on those who served who lost brothers and sisters in combat who we remember on Monday.

For those veterans described by the song, please work on staying around for more Veterans Days. Please don't rush to join the friends you lost.

COBs, if this is a thread killer, you have my permission to delete this post.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 10:28 PM (qx7Zg)

65 Brain-eating amoeba found in hot springs at 3 National Parks.

Fewer than 10 cases are typically reported in the United States each year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

___________________________________

I was convinced that the Govt. was putting something in toothpaste, or nailing us with those contrails which in turn made everyone dumber.

Turns out it's zombie amoeba.

Posted by: Orson at May 23, 2026 10:29 PM (dIske)

66 Pear brandy on ice cream is a wonderful dessert.
Posted by: Diogenes

Not as good as Tincture of Opium!!

Posted by: Cooter Brown, Flyin' High at May 23, 2026 10:30 PM (oftw2)

67 A girl from my city got the brain eating amoeba while swimming in a warm creek in Maryland. 19 yrs old , died after a couple of days on life support

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:30 PM (FpbZP)

68 Best video of shots fired, White House - >

https://tinyurl.com/yws726ma

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:26 PM (sqJYm)

The look on that Asian chicks face reminds me of how the first wife reacted when she saw me with my clothes... nevermind.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 10:30 PM (1Ff7Z)

69 So there is now a "ghost runner" in extra inning MLB games! A runner is placed at second base in every half inning after the normal nine.

Weird ... I have not been watching "Pro Sports" much for a few years, so missed out on that odd addition.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 23, 2026 10:32 PM (vbXSk)

70 Best video of shots fired, White House - >

https://tinyurl.com/yws726ma

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:26 PM (sqJYm)
+++
The look on that Asian chicks face reminds me of how the first wife reacted when she saw me with my clothes... nevermind.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
===

With a name like Selina Wang.... just check first. OK?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:32 PM (/lPRQ)

71 Look, Fat. I'm immune to those brain-eating amoebas!

Posted by: Delaware's Own at May 23, 2026 10:32 PM (oftw2)

72 That joke about the hat is one of my favorites.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2026 10:33 PM (77rzZ)

73 With a name like Selina Wang.... just check first. OK?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:32 PM (/lPRQ)

Well, Mick Dundee wasn't with me at the time.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 10:33 PM (1Ff7Z)

74 What is exciting now is that after working for a short while the washer stopped working and started smelling like the magic smoke escaped.
So it is waiting for me in the driveway for me to pull the motor in order to replace it with a new one.
Posted by: Kindltot

When you see blue smoke, the electronic gods are angry. One must take all the money out of your wallet and set it on fire in sacrifice. Summon the electric medicine man to bless the machine and take notice of your sacrifice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


If you're quick enough, and can gather all the magic smoke, and put it back in the component that released it, it should start working again. The magic smoke is what makes electronic things function, after all.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:33 PM (VHUov)

75 Good evening morons and Слава Двоим!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 10:34 PM (RIvkX)

76 The shooter at the White House was id'ed as Nasire Best. Safe to say he wasn't at his best

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:36 PM (FpbZP)

77 You put your left leg in, your back goes out, you're creaking and cramping and you've got a dose of gout... You twist and shout and a little wee comes out...
That's what aging is all about!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 10:36 PM (qx7Zg)

78 The gunman who opened fire near the White House on Saturday evening has been identified as a man named Nesire Best...

Nasire Best was previously arrested on July 10, 2025 for attempting to enter the White House complex...

He had serious mental-health issues
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With a name like that it was a given.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:37 PM (/lPRQ)

79 I recently took a pole and found out that 100% of the people in the tent were angry when it collapsed.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 10:37 PM (qx7Zg)

80 Club ONT regrets to inform our patrons that President Trump wanted to join us here tonight, but according to a message he sent to the DJT/Disco/Dino group chat:

"Circumstances pertaining to Government, and my love for the United States of America, do not allow me to do so."
=====

I think you're being catfished by an Orange Roughy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 10:39 PM (RIvkX)

81 Hi fellas!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 23, 2026 10:39 PM (uTEOj)

82 The old cougar joke made me grin. I was teasing my mom once about her flirting with younger men. She knew the term "cougar" but couldn't remember the right word, and she came up with "leopard," so that was our joke from then on.

She got sassy after hitting 80. Once I took her to Five Guys. I saw her pondering the sign as we drove in and parked. This is how it went:

Mom: Are they all here?
Me: What, all 5 guys? I dunno, I guess so.
*beat*
Mom: How many for you and how many for me?

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 23, 2026 10:39 PM (0SdQT)

83 It appears that all African American and Muslim criminals have mental health issues. Therefore they can never be guilty

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:41 PM (FpbZP)

84 Hi friends! Home from dinner. The best grouper. I am stuffed.

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 10:41 PM (pZEOD)

85 I recently took a pole and found out that 100% of the members in a Warsaw grand jury voted to indict me for kidnapping

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 23, 2026 10:42 PM (giFnw)

86 The gunman who opened fire near the White House on Saturday evening has been identified as a man named Nesire Best...

Nasire Best was previously arrested on July 10, 2025 for attempting to enter the White House complex...

He had serious mental-health issues
===

With a name like that it was a given.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:37 PM (/lPRQ)

At least he wasn't named Nacho Best.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 10:42 PM (qx7Zg)

87 Bananas don't belong in cocktails. They also don't belong in you mouth.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 10:44 PM (diia5)

88 "stochastic", that word has no relationship to any language that I know.

Posted by: Braenyard

=====
The Stochastic Man https://a.co/d/0h79pFRG

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 10:44 PM (RIvkX)

89 Of the above three cats the jaguar is by far the most bad assed. Watching them dive from a tree and kill a caiman is awesome

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:44 PM (FpbZP)

90 I recently took a pole and found out that 100% of the people in the tent were angry when it collapsed.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


Nice.

Very "Mitch Hedberg."

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:44 PM (VHUov)

91 @31 When you see blue smoke, the electronic gods are angry.

I once bought a used external disk drive for a Macintosh. It didn't work, so I brought it back to the shop to test it.

They plugged it in, and, honestly, neon pink smoke came out of it. They gave me my money back.

What does pink smoke mean?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 10:45 PM (CHHv1)

92
Astros are 22-31 and 5 games back

Yankees are 30-22 and 5.5 games back

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:45 PM (HdYcL)

93 Watching them dive from a tree and kill a caiman is awesome
Posted by: Smell the Glove


Sounds like a hate crime...
Oh, CAIman. Nevermind~

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 10:45 PM (diia5)

94 Nasire Best was previously arrested on July 10, 2025 for attempting to enter the White House complex...
-
So he tried Plenti, but his Best wasn't Goode enough?

Posted by: Methos at May 23, 2026 10:47 PM (vSvIl)

95 87 Bananas don't belong in cocktails. They also don't belong in you mouth.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 10:44 PM (diia5)

But they're okay on hats, right?

Posted by: Carmen Miranda at May 23, 2026 10:47 PM (0KINo)

96 We know the shooter wasn't actually the Mashiach because the real Christ wouldn't announce himself
Posted by: Life Of Brian at May 23, 2026 10:15 PM (gKWVE)

We know he's not Jesus because Jesus would be coming on the clouds, not just high.

Posted by: GWB at May 23, 2026 10:47 PM (kU0PQ)

97 This should be a Florida Man joke, but it's in Wisconsin during Construction season (I.e., not winter).

https://youtu.be/lPeoGqeuf5M

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 10:48 PM (qx7Zg)

98 What does pink smoke mean?
-
The new Pope is a girl?

Posted by: Methos at May 23, 2026 10:48 PM (vSvIl)

99 Evening Horde, thx D Squared
Graham Parker lived around here , Woodstock specifically, for a time in the 90s. Saw him in concert a couple times. His song Big Man on Paper mentions the Hudson Valley Mall, which is pretty much empty. Parker was definitely hit and miss
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:23 PM (FpbZP)

Temporary Beauty and his cover of J5's I Want You Back were solid.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 23, 2026 10:50 PM (nbLIj)

100 I once bought a used external disk drive for a Macintosh. It didn't work, so I brought it back to the shop to test it.

They plugged it in, and, honestly, neon pink smoke came out of it. They gave me my money back.

What does pink smoke mean?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 10:45 PM (CHHv1)

It was a female disk drive.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 10:50 PM (qx7Zg)

101 When each son reached potty training age, Kate Winslet's Boobs and I would take up that timeless anthem "My Baby Wants to Potty All the Time." Those were fun times.

How weird that I never realized that was Eddie Murphy. Then again, I may have been potty training myself when it came out, so I'll give myself a pass.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 23, 2026 10:50 PM (ftFVW)

102 They plugged it in, and, honestly, neon pink smoke came out of it. They gave me my money back.

What does pink smoke mean?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm


Blue smoke: normal wizard

Pink smoke: Mahou Shoujo

Posted by: Sakura Kinomoto at May 23, 2026 10:50 PM (VHUov)

103 The NHL team formerly known as the Hartford Whalers (miss those uniforms) beat the Montreal Ice Frogs, in OT.

GO WHALERS!!!

I wasn't even a fan of the Hartford Whalers. I just liked the name and uniforms. Seemed appropriate for the city and location. Whaling was a thing. I do appreciate the trade that brought Ron Francis and Ulf Samuelson to Pittsburgh! That was nice.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 23, 2026 10:50 PM (sAmhv)

104 This is just desperation at this point

@HollywoodHandle 2h
‘SHREK 6’ is officially in the works.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 10:51 PM (diia5)

105 Banana Ball live from Tacoma, Washington right now. First time in that state. Banana Ball will visit 46 states this year. All games live on Youtube.

Posted by: Clowns vs. Party Animals at May 23, 2026 10:52 PM (oftw2)

106 Dropping in to say thank you Ds forONT.

Slipping out to go pick up takee-outee dinner...glad I don't have to catch or shoot something so that's a plus...

Maybe be back in a while.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 23, 2026 10:52 PM (QGaXH)

107 This is just desperation at this point

@HollywoodHandle 2h
‘SHREK 6’ is officially in the works.
Posted by: weft cut-loop


Yeah, I'm all out.

Posted by: a mummified cow at May 23, 2026 10:53 PM (VHUov)

108 Banana liqueur does not sound good at all. Why was that invented? Just why?

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 23, 2026 10:53 PM (LZ0gJ)

109 Dropping in to say thank you Ds forONT.

Slipping out to go pick up takee-outee dinner...glad I don't have to catch or shoot something so that's a plus...

Maybe be back in a while.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan
===

Maybe you'll get lucky and hit a possum on the way?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 10:53 PM (/lPRQ)

110 Club ONT Jukebox
Getting fired up tonight!


Bonus tracks.

https://youtu.be/3jtkwaNMkyI
https://youtu.be/ve2pS-jxXz0
https://youtu.be/croDgo5DEWo
https://youtu.be/iH27h0NNZPo
https://youtu.be/6OGBmVhUSg4
https://youtu.be/DUDPGaBYX00
https://youtu.be/0l3dsHCScxU

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:54 PM (VHUov)

111 Slipping out to go pick up takee-outee dinner...glad I don't have to catch or shoot something so that's a plus...

Maybe be back in a while.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Take out? For just double the price you can Door Dash it and complain of being broke like a gen Z-er.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 23, 2026 10:59 PM (LZ0gJ)

112 51 Agent Orange might be my favorite punk band. Here's a song from them thst fits tonight's theme.

https://youtu.be/OBwqt-115lA
Posted by: tankdemon at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (0KINo)

Got a cassette out in the garage. When You Least Expect It.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at May 23, 2026 10:59 PM (QaH55)

113 A country track for tonight, from The Man in Black.

https://youtu.be/1Osyw6Svv8U

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 11:00 PM (qx7Zg)

114 What does pink smoke mean?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 10:45 PM (CHHv1)


Pink? Tim Cook got laid.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 11:01 PM (rbvCR)

115 98 What does pink smoke mean?
-
The new Pope is a girl?
Posted by: Methos
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Popa Leona.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 11:02 PM (sqJYm)

116 108 Banana liqueur does not sound good at all. Why was that invented? Just why?
Posted by: She Hobbit at May 23, 2026 10:53 PM (LZ0gJ)
_____________________________

I just asked Grok if there was anything worse than a drunken monkey?

I expected some flip answer telling me that this is not a scientific issue or that there were plenty of things worse than a drunken monkey.

Instead I got a whole dissertation about how monkey's purposefully seek out fermented fruit, but have learned to pace themselves unlike humans. On average the eat the equivalent of two large alcolholic drinks per day. Grok want's me to think that the annoying little monkey has better discipline than most humans (as they throw feces at you and masturbate in front of school kids at the zoo). Ok...sounds reasonable.

Posted by: Orson at May 23, 2026 11:04 PM (dIske)

117 One last song for tonight's jukebox, from the Kelly's Heroes soundtrack

https://youtu.be/kgeIINs1TrQ

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 11:04 PM (qx7Zg)

118 Pope Joan II

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 11:05 PM (gKWVE)

119 I don't know if Jesus was a Christian or a Jew, but Mary and Joseph were certainly Jewish.

The only one who looks Jewish in The Last Supper is Judas... as Monty Python pointed out.

Posted by: mnw at May 23, 2026 11:05 PM (RCjYY)

120 Nothing to see here, just a tankdemon taking off his sock. Move it along, people, no need to stare.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 23, 2026 11:06 PM (0KINo)

121 Banana liqueur does not sound good at all. Why was that invented? Just why?
Posted by: She Hobbit


Tropical and tiki drinks can use some banana flavor sometimes.

It's actually pretty tasty. At least Giffard's "banane du bresil" is.

I've had local banana-infused rum in the Caribbean, too. That saves a step.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 11:07 PM (VHUov)

122 1986 I was DJing at the UC/San Diego college radio station during a GLJ show on campus nearby. The two Aston brothers and their escort came running over after the show and I barely got the door closed and barred; the hordes of goth autograph seekers were relentless. Had a pleasant chat. Ahhh, the days of records when DJ transitions between one song and another was an art.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 23, 2026 11:07 PM (W5mpo)

123 Grok want's me to think that the annoying little monkey has better discipline than most humans (as they throw feces at you and masturbate in front of school kids at the zoo). Ok...sounds reasonable.
Posted by: Orson


Did you tell 'Grok' that?

Maybe Grok will say the monkey's have no alcohol tolerance like some native Americans and Asians?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 11:07 PM (/lPRQ)

124 Great idea, mikeski...

More fire:

https://youtu.be/Z6z-nxAYhGw
https://youtu.be/1xqMY8UAGgg

Posted by: JQ at May 23, 2026 11:07 PM (rdVOm)

125 I am such a cheap date. I had 2 glasses of wine with dinner and I feel like I would tell y’all anything. Sad. Lol.

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 11:09 PM (Wmg4n)

126 Instead I got a whole dissertation about how monkey's purposefully seek out fermented fruit, but have learned to pace themselves unlike humans. On average the eat the equivalent of two large alcolholic drinks per day. Grok want's me to think that the annoying little monkey has better discipline than most humans
Posted by: Orson


Is that adjusted for body weight?

Because if I had two large cocktails a day and I weighed twelve pounds, I'd be dead.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 11:09 PM (VHUov)

127 I am such a cheap date. I had 2 glasses of wine with dinner and I feel like I would tell y’all anything. Sad. Lol.
Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 11:09 PM (Wmg4n)
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Moar wine!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 11:11 PM (RIvkX)

128 Because if I had two large cocktails a day and I weighed twelve pounds, I'd be dead.
Posted by: mikeski

You don't know me! *hiccup*

Posted by: Drunken Monkey at May 23, 2026 11:11 PM (ftFVW)

129 Good evening, Club patrons!

Posted by: Doof at May 23, 2026 11:12 PM (QMAsf)

130 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (sqJYm)
---------
What a great video! Thanks.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 23, 2026 11:12 PM (UqeTT)

131 105 Banana Ball live from Tacoma, Washington right now. First time in that state. Banana Ball will visit 46 states this year. All games live on Youtube.
Posted by: Clowns vs. Party Animals


Huh? It was here last year in the Mariner’s stadium.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 11:12 PM (JOv66)

132 earworm: mine is Don't Fear the Reaper.

Stupidest song ever written, but earworms don't care about that.

Posted by: mnw at May 23, 2026 11:13 PM (RCjYY)

133 "Turkmenistan has one of the highest levels of global methane emissions ...

They should capture some of that gas and produce electricity instead of going with solar. Although wind might work.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 11:13 PM (/lPRQ)

134 earworm: mine is Don't Fear the Reaper.

Stupidest song ever written, but earworms don't care about that.
Posted by: mnw

Not a cowbell fan?

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 23, 2026 11:14 PM (ftFVW)

135 Warning. This may cause side-splitting laughter!

https://youtube.com/shorts/mzev8b28mZQ

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 11:14 PM (qx7Zg)

136 Thank you horde, for being you. I appreciate all of you.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 23, 2026 11:15 PM (UqeTT)

137 Nosiree Bob

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 11:15 PM (Cqx++)

138 I am such a cheap date. I had 2 glasses of wine with dinner and I feel like I would tell y’all anything. Sad. Lol.
Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 11:09 PM (Wmg4n)


Bill Cosby would like a word

Posted by: Doof at May 23, 2026 11:16 PM (QMAsf)

139 earworms: there were some interesting ones listed on an ONT earlier this week.

They're whatever your subconscious coughs up, I think. Like dreams.

Posted by: mnw at May 23, 2026 11:18 PM (RCjYY)

140 Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 11:09 PM (VHUov)
________________________

Sorry, got distracted. I was thinking that "Drunken' Monkey" would be a great name for a bar. Then, sadly, I checked to see how many other people thought that. Turns out hundreds of bars exist worldwide with that name... Including one in Prague that advertises,
"The Drunken Monkey Pub Crawl"
https://tinyurl.com/2fzbv672

Posted by: Orson at May 23, 2026 11:18 PM (dIske)

141 What does pink smoke mean?



Never mind. It's fine. If you don't know, we aren't going to tell you.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2026 11:19 PM (2PamV)

142 Monkeys are nasty aggressive assholes. They will rip your face off, eat it and crap in you eyeholes.

Kinda like river otters.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 11:20 PM (A5RD0)

143 Any of those penguin pushers around tonight? Just watched a Casual Geographic video on the penguins' pal, the leopard seal. And by pal I mean deadly predator. I don't use the word gnarly, but for some reason it comes to mind about these sea monsters.

https://youtu.be/QyLYAB5zk7E

Posted by: mindful webworker - curiously informed at May 23, 2026 11:21 PM (0poB+)

144 earworms: there were some interesting ones listed on an ONT earlier this week.


It's a world of laughter, a world of tears
It's a world of hopes and a world of fears
There's so much that we share that its time we're aware
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small, small world

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2026 11:21 PM (2PamV)

145
138 I am such a cheap date. I had 2 glasses of wine with dinner and I feel like I would tell y’all anything. Sad. Lol.
Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 11:09 PM (Wmg4n)

Bill Cosby would like a word
Posted by: Doof at May 23, 2026 11

I can still talk. He liked his comatose. Shudder.

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 11:22 PM (Wmg4n)

146 I was DJing at the UC/San Diego college radio station during a GLJ show on campus nearby.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal


Gay Lozenge Job?
Geographic Lothario Jerimiah?
Giggly Lubricant Jezebel?
Goethe Lobby Jihad?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 11:23 PM (diia5)

147 Earworm

Let's dance, let's shout (Shout)
Shake your body down to the ground
Let's dance, let's shout (Shout)
Shake your body down to the ground
Let's dance, let's shout (Shout)
Shake your body down to the ground
Let's dance, let's shout (Shout)
Shake your body down to the ground

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 11:24 PM (RIvkX)

148 Is the Cult singing something about "crazy in the rhizome"?

Posted by: GWB at May 23, 2026 11:24 PM (kU0PQ)

149 I can still talk. He liked his comatose. Shudder.
Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 11:22 PM (Wmg4n)


Right. Important distinction!

Posted by: Doof at May 23, 2026 11:24 PM (QMAsf)

150 Weeeeeeellllllllll

You know, you make me want to (Shout)
Kick my heels up and (Shout)
Throw my head back and (Shout)
Come on now (Shout)
Come on now (Shout)
Don't forget to say you will
Don't forget to say-yay-ay-ay-ay (say you will)
Say it right now, baby (Say you will)
Come on, Come on (say you will)
Say that a youoooo (say you will)

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2026 11:25 PM (2PamV)

151 Lol @magic smoke...

I printed the book of schematics (provided only on CDrom by the mfr.) for my machine at work & used xkcd's "Circuit Diagram" as cover page:

https://xkcd.com/730/

Techs appreciated the effort.

Posted by: JQ at May 23, 2026 11:25 PM (rdVOm)

152 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZBIseq-cKM

the trunk monkey collection

Posted by: Lord Percy at May 23, 2026 11:26 PM (T8RPZ)

153 OffKai 5th Gen continues to cover themselves with gloryhole effluvia.

1. 13 to 17 year olds can wander the con unattended if they have a notarized parental consent form signed by a parent or guardian. This includes the Exhibition Hall.

2. The OnlyFans of VTubing, Fansly, is now a sponsor of OffKai and will be in the Exhibition Hall.

3. A VTubing group called VBimbos will attend OffKai.

A sinkhole needs to swallow the whole convention.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 11:26 PM (2GVsD)

154 144

Romeo and Juliet
Are together in eternity.
We can be like they are.
Come on, baby
We'll be able to fly!

Posted by: mnw at May 23, 2026 11:26 PM (RCjYY)

155 A sinkhole needs to swallow the whole convention.
Posted by: Anna Puma


What did I ever do to you?

Posted by: a sinkhole at May 23, 2026 11:30 PM (VHUov)

156 3. A VTubing group called VBimbos will attend OffKai.
A sinkhole needs to swallow the whole convention.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 11:26 PM (2GVsD)


Sounds like it will.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 11:31 PM (gKWVE)

157 The shooter at the White House was id'ed as Nasire Best. Safe to say he wasn't at his best
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:36 PM (FpbZP)

Sounds like a an Arabic name, maybe Lebanese. Living for generations in close proximity to muslims, the crazy can rub off.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 11:33 PM (8zz6B)

158 I am going to bed. Sweet dreams!

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 11:33 PM (Wmg4n)

159 What does pink smoke mean?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 10:45 PM (CHHv1)

They've elected a gay pope.

Posted by: Pink AND blue it's a transpope at May 23, 2026 11:33 PM (TbWk/)

160 The NHL team formerly known as the Hartford Whalers (miss those uniforms) beat the Montreal Ice Frogs, in OT.

GO WHALERS!!!

------------
I appreciate that the Canes embrace their Whaler heritage. Many fans wearing their gear, as well as their throwback uniform games.

LETS GO CANES!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 23, 2026 11:34 PM (5yDGQ)

161 Posted by: Pink AND blue it's a transpope at May 23, 2026 11:33 PM (TbWk/)

Going to be trouble putting that hat over those cat ears.

Posted by: the furries at May 23, 2026 11:35 PM (gKWVE)

162 1-877-Kars for Kidz

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 11:35 PM (XgKq6)

163 America's first advanced nuclear reactor since 1979 has begun generating electricity — a milestone that marks the real beginning of the nuclear renaissance in the United States.

The last nuclear power plant to enter commercial operation in the United States before the current era was Watts Bar Unit 1 in Tennessee — commissioned in 1996 but whose construction began in 1973. For fifty years, no genuinely new nuclear construction project reached commercial operation in America. The regulatory environment, the capital costs, the public perception shaped by Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, and the availability of cheap natural gas combined to make nuclear investment essentially impossible for half a century.

Vogtle Unit 3 in Georgia — the first new nuclear reactor built from scratch in the United States since the 1970s construction era — achieved commercial operation in July 2023. Vogtle Unit 4 followed in April 2024. Both are AP1000 pressurised water reactors designed by Westinghouse — third-generation designs with passive safety systems that make the active cooling failures that caused Three Mile Island and Fukushima physically impossible. (Cont)

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2026 11:36 PM (2PamV)

164 Georgia Power's customers are now receiving carbon-free electricity from two reactors that will operate for at least 60 years.

The Vogtle project was over budget and behind schedule — a reality that nuclear critics correctly cite as evidence of the industry's current cost challenges. But the reactors are running. The electricity is flowing. The lessons learned from Vogtle's construction — in workforce development, modular fabrication, regulatory navigation, and supply chain management — are already being incorporated into the design of the next generation of American nuclear projects that TerraPower, X-energy, and Kairos Power are building.

America's nuclear future started with a difficult delivery. It was still delivered.

Source: Georgia Power & US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, 2024

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2026 11:36 PM (2PamV)

165 https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 11:38 PM (A5RD0)

166 Dating rituals change when adults become intoxicated. This has long been known, and is why fathers are protective of their wives and daughters. When you introduce an aberrant culture of savages, there will be pain.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 11:38 PM (D1E+2)

167
GO WHALERS!!!


Too bad Burger King did away with them.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 11:38 PM (Cqx++)

168 >>>America's nuclear future started with a difficult delivery. It was still delivered.
--

Jimmy, the abortionist, 'I will make nuclear energy safe for America', Carter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 11:41 PM (sqJYm)

169 GO WHALERS!!!


Too bad Burger King did away with them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
----

Butt...Boston still makes them, right?

Posted by: Ishmael at May 23, 2026 11:41 PM (XeU6L)

170 Evening, D-squared and ONT Horde. Had a nice visit with AZ Deplorable Moron, and his lovely wife.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 11:43 PM (8zz6B)

171 >>The NHL team formerly known as the Hartford Whalers (miss those uniforms) beat the Montreal Ice Frogs, in OT.

>>GO WHALERS!!!

Jack Kelley was a hell of a hockey guy. First GM and head coach of the Whalers. I went to school with his son Mark who eventually became head of amateur scouting for the Blackhawks. His brother is David Kelley who created a bunch of hit TV shows.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 11:44 PM (viF8m)

172 159 What does pink smoke mean?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 10:45 PM (CHHv1)

They've elected a gay pope.
Posted by: Pink AND blue it's a transpope at May 23, 2026 11:33 PM (TbWk/)

I thought they were all gay.

Posted by: Anti-Potpourri League at May 23, 2026 11:44 PM (ZGFTp)

173 Reported: Talarico is pulling up in the polls.

@amuse --

TEXAS SENATE RACE: James Talarico (CIS) claims to oppose dark money.
It turns out his super PAC is funded by the darkest money imaginable ... Epstein associate Reid Hoffman, Sixteen Thirty Fund, and a secretive Delaware shell company

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 11:44 PM (sqJYm)

174 Let's just start burning coal again.

Posted by: Case at May 23, 2026 11:46 PM (8XBuM)

175 From the hobby thread:

My house was a lesson in insanity. The colors here were soooo bad either they were gotten of a clearance shelf, or the dude's girlfriend who picked the colors has the worse frigging taste in colors in the galaxy and should have had her ass removed. Who in their right mind paints the whole central area of the house pumpkin orange. The one bedroom had 2 walls periwinkle and 2 walls a greenish yellow. Another room had 2 walls bright red and 2 walls bright yellow. The one half bath was grey and green. It was brutal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:10 PM (snZF9)


I'm convinced that extensive pot use destroys some people's color sense. It might not even be color perception itself, but some combination of degraded stimulus response and destroyed disgust reflex. But you can observe how the "lifestyle" potheads, older and closer to burnout, will gravitate to more unusual colors in tasteless combinations.

That's just what it takes to tickle their brains at all anymore, is my best guess.

Posted by: SciVo at May 23, 2026 11:47 PM (Sy6m/)

176 Dead shooter is a black guy with dreads (sp?), if photo I saw is correct. "Thought he was Jesus". Well we all have times like that. Just that we don't attack a heavily protected national facility like a crazy dumbass.

Haven't checked if still true, but the leader in post-Soviet Turkmenistan was known as "the great horseman", basically the president (for life, natch). Some good stories out of that place.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2026 11:49 PM (U/Byj)

177 I'm convinced that extensive pot use destroys some people's color sense. It might not even be color perception itself, but some combination of degraded stimulus response and destroyed disgust reflex. But you can observe how the "lifestyle" potheads, older and closer to burnout, will gravitate to more unusual colors in tasteless combinations.

That's just what it takes to tickle their brains at all anymore, is my best guess.
Posted by: SciVo

Thanks! The Early 1970s make sense, now...

Posted by: JQ at May 23, 2026 11:49 PM (rdVOm)

178
Dead shooter is a black guy with dreads (sp?), if photo I saw is correct. "Thought he was Jesus".

Posted by: rhomboid

==================

We'll find out in three days if he was right.

--stolen from elsewhere

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 23, 2026 11:50 PM (n7rxJ)

179 Makes sense. One would should a place up with a glock, just like Jesus did.

Posted by: Anti-Potpourri League at May 23, 2026 11:51 PM (ZGFTp)

180 Glad to see a new nuke get lit up.

Disgusted to see the absurd "carbon-free" nonsense still in use.

Aside from being wildly untrue (every single thing about the reactor operation is based on real, i.e. carbon-based energy, apart from the nuclear fuel, from its construction to its maintenance to the workers' commute to the food they eat to the clothes they wear to ...... duh), it comes across like a Russian politician in the 2000s starting his statements with "as Comrade Stalin has written".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2026 11:52 PM (U/Byj)

181 Reckon Talarico has taken a pole or three.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 11:52 PM (gKWVE)

182 We'll find out in three days if he was right.

--stolen from elsewhere
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 23, 2026 11:50 PM (n7rxJ)

Well, too late to crucify him. But we could shove his carcass through a wood chipper, and juicify him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 11:52 PM (8zz6B)

183 but the leader in post-Soviet Turkmenistan
------

Are we talking Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow?

Posted by: Derb at May 23, 2026 11:55 PM (XeU6L)

184 Jaguars have the strongest bite of any cat. Their typical attack is to bite through the prey's skull and into their brain. About 10 years ago, I saw a black jaguar killing a sheep just south of Tomball TX (North of Houston). He had the sheep's head in his mouth. Jaguar's aren't supposed to be in the US, but the one I saw sure was.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at May 23, 2026 11:55 PM (Da7Vv)

185 119 I don't know if Jesus was a Christian or a Jew, but Mary and Joseph were certainly Jewish.

--------

And verily, saith the scribe, they never paid retail.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 11:56 PM (u/oMr)

186 Dead shooter is a black guy with dreads (sp?), if photo I saw is correct. "Thought he was Jesus". Well we all have times like that. Just that we don't attack a heavily protected national facility like a crazy dumbass.



I guess I'm defective. After 63 years, I have never once thought I was Jesus.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2026 11:56 PM (2PamV)

187 Nice clear slams at DEI garbage by Pete at the West Point graduation.

Meanwhile via some skullduggery or something, the sole candidate for prez of Univ. of FL is a former Univ. of Alabama prez who is a DEI insect.

Hoping/assuming DeSantis will nuke the thing, if he has that authority. Good (redundant?) reminder that "DEI" (racist-totalitarian delusional social engineering) is far far far from done, or even in retreat. It will take 10 years of adult supervision to really start to purge it, and I'm doubtful we'll have that.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2026 11:57 PM (U/Byj)

188 I’m reasonably sure that the “gate to hell” in Turkmenistan was created by very sloppy Soviet drilling practices, which created an underground blowout near the surface, which caused a sinkhole to form as all the fluid movement created a sinkhole. Then the ensuing crater was left connected to a deep gas reservoir which had taken 60 years to burn itself off.

And the Russians, starting with the Soviets, all say “we have no idea what happened!” And try hard to burn all the records of what actually did happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 11:57 PM (U0opd)

189 rickb223, I was of course attempting a joke, with the usual success.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2026 11:58 PM (U/Byj)

190 You know what's great about cats?

Because I'd like to hear a couple of things.

I went to cet the pat and all he wanted to do was bite me.

What the Hell, people, what the Hell.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 11:58 PM (CHHv1)

191 Sounds like a an Arabic name, maybe Lebanese. Living for generations in close proximity to muslims, the crazy can rub off.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 11:33 PM (8zz6B)

H'zbollah is funded by the Iranians, so not a complete stretch. Most of the Maronites left, as they were fond of drawing breathe

Posted by: moki at May 23, 2026 11:59 PM (wLjpr)

192 "Thought he was Jesus".
Posted by: rhomboid


The Good Book tells us what to expect when He returns, and it isn't "moneychangers in the temple" personal level stuff. It's a bit more global.

Sorry, glock messiah, but I'm not sure how you persuaded yourself of that.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 11:59 PM (VHUov)

193 Reckon Talarico has taken a pole or three.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 11:52 PM (gKWVE)

We should make a point of calling the turd by his birth name, Causey, to make it clear he is a fake Hispanic.

"James Causey, alias Talarico"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 12:00 AM (8zz6B)

194 rickb223, I was of course attempting a joke, with the usual success.
Posted by: rhomboid


Sorry. 😢

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 12:00 AM (2PamV)

195 I'd rather be Saint Jerome anyway.

Posted by: so my niece can recite the line at May 24, 2026 12:00 AM (gKWVE)

196 https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 11:38 PM (A5RD0)

Wow. That video has 1.77 billion (with a "b") views.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 24, 2026 12:00 AM (aMrr2)

197 Nuclear, carbon free, is a selling point to shut down the water melons.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:01 AM (sqJYm)

198 I can say with complete honesty that I have never thought I was Jesus. Napoleon, Caesar, and Alexander once or twice, I’ll ’fess up to that. But never Jesus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 12:01 AM (U0opd)

199 I fell today walking on my pegleg, no whiskey was involved this time.

It's a lot trickier than you would believe, especially turning around.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 12:03 AM (XV/Pl)

200 Here's a music video. For Bulg, Man of the Boobs.

https://youtu.be/IZvpHwoQfqk

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 12:03 AM (qx7Zg)

201 Hi, BC!

Cats must be *in the mood* for petting, otherwise... chomp and slice!

Or, sometimes, they want to 'play'-- you're the prey and they're practicing their skillz.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 12:03 AM (rdVOm)

202 193 Reckon Talarico has taken a pole or three.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 11:52 PM (gKWVE)

We should make a point of calling the turd by his birth name, Causey, to make it clear he is a fake Hispanic.

"James Causey, alias Talarico"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 12:00 AM (8zz6B)

Just like Beto.
Another pretend Mexican.

Posted by: Anti-Potpourri League at May 24, 2026 12:04 AM (ZGFTp)

203 "Are we talking Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow?"

Can't recall the guy's name now, but it was a russified Central Asian name (ending in -ov). Kazakhstan had the same guy in charge forever, he either died or something, new guy now for some time. Aliyev Jr. in Azerbaijan has been there a long time, can't recall now if his dad (Politburo member) was running things after 1991 for a while (and I was there a lot - hmm, memory slipping).

But Uncle Sasha (Lukashenko) in Belarus holds the record, still at the top after 35 years. Or, as Trump called him in a recent post, the "highly respected president of Belarus", possibly Trump's funniest line yet. I get it, he was thanking him for springing an American in detention (something this administration is very good at and focused on and which receives little attention). But still, funny. Even nationalist, non-"liberal" Russians mock Lukashenko.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2026 12:04 AM (U/Byj)

204 It's a lot trickier than you would believe, especially turning around.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 12:03 AM (XV/Pl)

---------

One would think a crisp pencil spin would be facilitated by a peg leg, but the fire hazard might argue against it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2026 12:05 AM (u/oMr)

205 I fell today walking on my pegleg, no whiskey was involved this time.

It's a lot trickier than you would believe, especially turning around.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


You don't just plant the pegleg and spin like Brian Boitano?

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 12:05 AM (VHUov)

206 .....sorry for all the clutter in the Hordemind, Cicero.

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 12:06 AM (VHUov)

207 >>>Let's just start burning coal again.

Posted by: Case

>We need to warm the planet with carbon because it's cooling off to quickly.

Posted by: Alphonse Gore Esq. at May 24, 2026 12:09 AM (D1E+2)

208 It's a lot trickier than you would believe, especially turning around.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 12:03 AM (XV/Pl)

Cut off a camel's foot, and graft it to the peg leg. "Hey, honey, want to see my cameltoe?"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 12:09 AM (8zz6B)

209 Just like Beto.
Another pretend Mexican.
Posted by: Anti-Potpourri League


Ol' Pancho Vanilla.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 12:09 AM (2PamV)

210 GPT -5 didn’t want to give it up but - >

Coal fired plants in Michigan, Washington Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana have been re-opened.

Other states with recent federal orders or actions keeping retired/idle coal units available or restarted include: Indiana, Colorado, Ohio, West Virginia and Illinois.
_U.S. Department of Energy

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:09 AM (sqJYm)

211 @204

>>One would think a crisp pencil spin would be facilitated by a peg leg, but the fire hazard might argue against it.

You would think, but the center of balance is all out of whack with the massive cast hanging off the back of the deck.

Between the knee scooter, crutches and the peg leg, I'm able to get around.

It's wild how difficult things get once you lose the function of a leg.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 12:12 AM (XV/Pl)

212 @208

>>Cut off a camel's foot, and graft it to the peg leg. "Hey, honey, want to see my cameltoe?"

Don't have access to a camel, but there are some alpaca in the vicinity I could potentially rustle.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2026 12:13 AM (XV/Pl)

213 Just like Beto.
Another pretend Mexican.
Posted by: Anti-Potpourri League
---

I got called on that one. Actually, it's the most honest thing about him. He was adopted, as a babe or child, by his step father, Daddy Talarico.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:14 AM (sqJYm)

214 The kicker; Daddy Talarico is Italian.
An Italian in San Antonio, TX, wtf?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:15 AM (sqJYm)

215 @201 - yeah, I get it. Because of their abilities, cats have never developed the "cooperation" ability that dogs have. So their solution to "too much petting" is "slash and kill" rather than the dogs' "I will tolerate this for the good of the pack."

It honestly just gets tiresome. I give out treats, clean the box, pet when he wants it, allow my chest to be used as a trampoline, and what I get is...nothing.

It's like being in a Dario Argento film. One night I'll wake up with a knife at my throat. "I told you, I'm tired of chicken-flavored treats. Now, you will know just how tired I am."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 12:17 AM (CHHv1)

216 Well, I am getting real sleepy. Time to hit the sack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2026 12:18 AM (8zz6B)

217 I don't bother people for being adopted and taking the stepdad's name. BJ Clinton was born a Blythe but I don't mock his last name.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 24, 2026 12:21 AM (gKWVE)

218 A cheetah will not eat you. A leopard or jaguar will.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at May 24, 2026 12:21 AM (Xqite)

219 Glad to see a new nuke get lit up.
-
Well there's something I wouldn't want to read out of context.

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2026 12:21 AM (vSvIl)

220 A cheetah will not eat you. A leopard or jaguar will.
Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at May 24, 2026 12:21 AM (Xqite)

The cheetah will take your wallet and clothes.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 12:22 AM (qx7Zg)

221 … it comes across like a Russian politician in the 2000s starting his statements with "as Comrade Stalin has written".
Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2026 11:52 PM (U/Byj)


Surely that went out with the Soviet Union, i.e., after 1989.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 24, 2026 12:23 AM (eGn4U)

222 A cheetah will give you Cheetos.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:24 AM (Cqx++)

223 We have over 500 years of coal, we might as well put it to use.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 24, 2026 12:25 AM (eGn4U)

224 Are these new nuke plants the ones in Michigan or Wyoming, or somewhere else?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 24, 2026 12:27 AM (eGn4U)

225 >>It honestly just gets tiresome. I give out treats, clean the box, pet when he wants it, allow my chest to be used as a trampoline, and what I get is...nothing.

Aw, BC-- this is sad for me to read. I'm sorry you feel no benefit from Robert the Cat.

Some cats (kind of like some people) are not "touchy-feely". Darn it, if they didn't want to be petted, they shouldn't be so *soft!*

My own cat is not the lap-type. Prefers outdoors, except when it's very cold/wet. He will sleep at the foot of my bed on winter nights, but wants out at daybreak. Once temps are above 40F, he's out 95+% of the time and only begs for kibble/ treats 3 or 4 times a day.

I've learned to not attempt to pet him while he sleeps! (Slash & chomp!) He will come to me for rubbys, and sit there while I oblige... then he walks away. I do not pursue. He will sit outside at patio door, wanting me to be outside with him. If I'm outside, he will follow me around the yard unless I'm using machinery, LOL.

He's my buddy but not a snuggler.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 12:32 AM (rdVOm)

226 If AI is going to take massive amounts of energy then we better get massive amounts of electricity fast. No one wants sky high electric bills. Taking 20 years to build nuclear plants is not going to work. D.C. we have a problem!

Posted by: Case at May 24, 2026 12:32 AM (8XBuM)

227
Meanwhile via some skullduggery or something, the sole candidate for prez of Univ. of FL is a former Univ. of Alabama prez who is a DEI insect.

Hoping/assuming DeSantis will nuke the thing, if he has that authority.

Posted by: rhomboid

==============

Wait, what? Is this the same post for which they'd hired a lefty from University of Michigan, then rejected him on review? Santa Ono was his name. Now they're doing it again?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 12:34 AM (n7rxJ)

228 Are these new nuke plants the ones in Michigan or Wyoming, or somewhere else?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit


The one I posted about was in Georgia.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 12:35 AM (2PamV)

229
If AI is going to take massive amounts of energy then we better get massive amounts of electricity fast. No one wants sky high electric bills. Taking 20 years to build nuclear plants is not going to work. D.C. we have a problem!
Posted by: Case


Just wait till they bring back electric cars.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:37 AM (Cqx++)

230 Public water systems may not filter out hormones, pharmaceuticals, and certain contaminants like lead and *PFAS (forever chemicals).

Reverse Osmosis filters out this crap that tap water contains. Who knows what tap water is doing to our systems?

I drink bottled water but then thinking, what about my tea, coffee and orange juice. I've been making that with tap water. Yikes.

I've started making all my drinks with bottled water, they taste better too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:37 AM (sqJYm)

231 I am detecting a profound lack of astronauts, mermaids, fascists, ninjas, and cheerleaders. I can fix this, while staying in the fire theme!

AWOLNATION - Burn It Down (Official Video)
https://youtu.be/XcClvRt9g2Q

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 12:40 AM (Sy6m/)

232 The shooting had one positive outcome: CNN preempted at least an hour of their 3 hour tribute to Colbert that was supposed to air tonight. That’s a lot of air time to fill with the phrase “stunning and brave” otherwise.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 24, 2026 12:40 AM (QZThv)

233 If AI is going to take massive amounts of energy then we better get massive amounts of electricity fast. No one wants sky high electric bills. Taking 20 years to build nuclear plants is not going to work. D.C. we have a problem!
Posted by: Case

Just wait till they bring back electric cars.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:37 AM (Cqx++)

It's relatively simple. Require each new data center to have its own, brand new nuclear reactor for power, and a sealed, safe cooling system that leaves local water sources untouched.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 12:40 AM (qx7Zg)

234 He's my buddy but not a snuggler.
Posted by: JQ
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He's a Tom. Tom's have a different perspective on how stuff works.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:40 AM (sqJYm)

235 @225 - again, I get it. I've lived with six cats over the years and have known a few others. Most of them were able to come to an agreement with me, and company was enjoyed. (Best one was Orbison, who was gone from us too soon.)

Robert the Cat (TM) just seems stubbornly opposed to any kind of cooperative contract. Possibly that's my fault. More likely it's his.

I am committed, so I won't be strangling him. (Sigh) But it would ne nice if he acknowledged, even if grudgingly, that I am giving him a better life than he had in the shelter.

But then, he doesn't have to acknowledge that, does he.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 12:41 AM (CHHv1)

236 Guys named Best just aren't any good

Posted by: John, Paul and George at May 24, 2026 12:41 AM (3/XaG)

237 Just came home from 3 days at the Vegas strip (nephews wedding). Place is overwhelming to the senses with all the lights and sounds.

Kind of fun, especially if you are under 40, but I am not much of a gambler. If you like food and entertainment it can't be beat.

Climate is fantastic but I guess the 100+ temps start after Memorial Day.

Posted by: Joemarine at May 24, 2026 12:41 AM (y171U)

238 Now, you will know just how tired I am."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
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It has trained you well.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:44 AM (sqJYm)

239 @236 - there was an actor named James Best who was in "The Giant Gila Monster" and sang a song about mushrooms. Not sure what category of "good" that falls in, though.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 12:44 AM (CHHv1)

240 James Best was OK.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:44 AM (Cqx++)

241 Energy - SMR’s (small modular reactors) are already being constructed in Texas and other states. The biggest challenge is standardizing the design, but that takes some trial and error.
Once that is done, it should not be hard to build 10 - 20 per year. I wouldn’t be surprised if not far into the future, every large data center will come with its own dedicated SMR.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 12:45 AM (U0opd)

242 He's a Tom. Tom's have a different perspective on how stuff works.

Posted by: Braenyard

Hahaha, yes. He sets his own terms. But it's sweet when I'm at the deck rail, and he comes walking along it & gives me a forehead *bonk*-- our way of greeting-- and then goes about his bidness.

"Hi, hooman! See ya later!"

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 12:46 AM (rdVOm)

243 James Best was in the Killer Shrews not the Gila Monster.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2026 12:46 AM (Cqx++)

244 >>But it would ne nice if he acknowledged, even if grudgingly, that I am giving him a better life than he had in the shelter.

BC, do you know what sort of life he had before the shelter? Might have something to do with his cattitude.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 12:48 AM (rdVOm)

245 It's relatively simple. Require each new data center to have its own, brand new nuclear reactor for power, and a sealed, safe cooling system that leaves local water sources untouched.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 12:40 AM (qx7Zg)

The molten salt design does exactly that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2026 12:49 AM (U0opd)

246
AWOLNATION - Burn It Down (Official Video)
https://youtu.be/XcClvRt9g2Q
Posted by: SciVo
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Rock & Roll, 2026

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:50 AM (sqJYm)

247 245 It's relatively simple. Require each new data center to have its own, brand new nuclear reactor for power, and a sealed, safe cooling system that leaves local water sources untouched.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Isn't Musk working toward his data center being in orbit? Intends on letting the sun be his power source.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:52 AM (sqJYm)

248 132 earworm: mine is Don't Fear the Reaper.
Stupidest song ever written, but earworms don't care about that.
Posted by: mnw

Banhammer on #132

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 12:53 AM (W5mpo)

249 Fire theme, plus BOC

https://youtu.be/z0efJeGsvlc

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 12:55 AM (rdVOm)

250 No, *not* Burnin' For You

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 12:58 AM (rdVOm)

251 241 Energy - SMR’s (small modular reactors) are already being constructed in Texas and other states. The biggest challenge is standardizing the design, but that takes some trial and error.
Once that is done, it should not be hard to build 10 - 20 per year. I wouldn’t be surprised if not far into the future, every large data center will come with its own dedicated SMR.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Competition is good it will drive innovation.
They don't, necessarily, need to be standardized. Just like car engines there a several valid approaches to achieving power.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 12:58 AM (sqJYm)

252 This would probably have attracted AOP...

https://youtube.com/shorts/klKec7kG9vM

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 24, 2026 12:58 AM (qx7Zg)

253 @244 - no, not really. And I understand that early experiences shape one's outlook. But he's been with me for over 4 years, you might think he'd adjust. You know, just a bit.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 01:00 AM (CHHv1)

254 I tried to get tickets a month ago. Sold out!

"105 Banana Ball live from Tacoma, Washington right now. First time in that state. Banana Ball will visit 46 states this year. All games live on Youtube.
Posted by: Clowns vs. Party Animals at May 23, 2026 10:52 PM (oftw2)"

Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at May 24, 2026 01:00 AM (U/7CP)

255 The one I posted about was in Georgia.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 12:35 AM (2PamV)


Is that the Plant Vogtle #2, or have they got #3 up yet?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 24, 2026 01:01 AM (eGn4U)

256 No, *not* Burnin' For You
Posted by: JQ

I was thinking:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWZy5o9Eq9U

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 01:01 AM (W5mpo)

257 @243 - oops. Somebody sang a song about mushrooms in a film. I thought it was him.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 01:01 AM (CHHv1)

258 61
Also, if you're close enough to notice those differences in spots? You're either in a zoo or won't have time to figure out which one is eating you.
Posted by: GWB at May 23, 2026 10:24 PM (kU0PQ)

According to some You Tuber, it wouldn't be a Cheetah because they are just big pussycats around humans.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 10:27 PM (1Ff7Z)


Cheetas always look vaguely sad to me, like even their own friends have given up on them as hopeless in love and life. At least their dogs love them...

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 01:05 AM (7Wnc/)

259 BC, if he's not behaving the way you'd like-- withhold treats. (Don't want to reward poor behavior.)

Only give a treat IF he is nice to you.

Sorry, that's all I got.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:05 AM (rdVOm)

260 Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 01:01 AM

Heh. Sorry, that's the *one* BOC album I'm not fond of.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:06 AM (rdVOm)

261 Is that the Plant Vogtle #2, or have they got #3 up yet?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit



See 163 & #164. They have 3 AND 4 up.

Vogtle Unit 3 in Georgia — the first new nuclear reactor built from scratch in the United States since the 1970s construction era — achieved commercial operation in July 2023.

Vogtle Unit 4 followed in April 2024. Both are AP1000 pressurised water reactors designed by Westinghouse — third-generation designs with passive safety systems that make the active cooling failures that caused Three Mile Island and Fukushima physically impossible.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 01:15 AM (2PamV)

262 An old neighbor had a very cool, mostly outdoor Siamese cat, we really got along. He'd spot me walking in the very early morning and would bolt across the street and stop just before ramming into me.

I'd talk to him and give him a good solid bit of petting. I don't think his humans gave him much attention, but kept him well fed. Or maybe it was just kismet. Then one day they all moved.

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 01:15 AM (r8pP+)

263 When I was a kid we had a tom that was do tough that, even after he'd lost his teeth, he could walk the street and other tom's would run for the porch.

He was house broke but when you approached him it was from the front and slowly.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:15 AM (sqJYm)

264 @259 thank you. It's a hard road and always has been. Dogs--well, they require a lot more (cats are kind of like throw pillows) but they are so grateful for anything they get in terms of attention. (I've met several on my walks and they're so doggy.)

Cats are basically "And--? You're expecting something special? For...doing your duty? (pause) How...odd."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 01:18 AM (CHHv1)

265 83 It appears that all African American and Muslim criminals have mental health issues. Therefore they can never be guilty
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:41 PM (FpbZP)


I am of the opinion that if someone cannot be held responsible for his actions, then he should not be allowed to choose them. And if there aren't enough psych beds, then there's always "Canadian healthcare" or the Cricket treatment for feral animals.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 01:20 AM (Sy6m/)

266 265 83 It appears that all African American and Muslim criminals have mental health issues. Therefore they can never be guilty
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:41 PM (FpbZP)

I am of the opinion that if someone cannot be held responsible for his actions, then he should not be allowed to choose them. And if there aren't enough psych beds, then there's always "Canadian healthcare" or the Cricket treatment for feral animals.
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 01:20 AM (Sy6m/)

My favorite stupidity on this subject? They can be declared incompetent to stand trial for a crime they committed, because they are too stupid.

So yeah, we let them stay out of Jail, so they can stupidly commit more crime?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 24, 2026 01:26 AM (mP0Kj)

267 And if there aren't enough psych beds, then there's always [...] the Cricket treatment for feral animals.
Posted by: SciVo


You..... make them play silly Indian baseball forever?

Cruel. And unusual.

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 01:28 AM (VHUov)

268 My ol' Cat likes people, if they approach slowly. Better, if they're standing still & then he will approach them. Maybe even *bonk* their leg and accept a skritch from them. And then he's off, upon his merry way...

He'll fight if necessary but hasn't needed to (afaik) since the bully tomcat next door moved away. They looked so much alike but had *totally different* personalities.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:30 AM (rdVOm)

269 Doggonnit, peopul, it's hard to get caught up on comments when I keep getting sidetracked on your links. Especially ones that a person can't just listen to but has to watch. Like them country sisters. Mm mm mm.

Well, here's some Mozart for a change of pace.
https://youtu.be/y058ndfXHz4

G'nite, y'all.💤

Posted by: mindful webworker - 'Wolfie' Mozart the classic rapper at May 24, 2026 01:30 AM (0poB+)

270 It appears that all African American and Muslim criminals have mental health issues. Therefore they can never be guilty
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:41 PM (FpbZP)

I am of the opinion that if someone cannot be held responsible for his actions, then he should not be allowed to choose them. And if there aren't enough psych beds, then there's always "Canadian healthcare" or the Cricket treatment for feral animals.
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 01:20 AM (Sy6m/)

My favorite stupidity on this subject? They can be declared incompetent to stand trial for a crime they committed, because they are too stupid.

So yeah, we let them stay out of Jail, so they can stupidly commit more crime?
Posted by: Romeo13


What's criminal? We put down dogs for less.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 01:34 AM (2PamV)

271 Heh. Sorry, that's the *one* BOC album I'm not fond of.
Posted by: JQ

Hush your mouth.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 24, 2026 01:35 AM (W5mpo)

272 Paul was a hologram the whole time.

Posted by: Billy Shears at May 24, 2026 01:35 AM (37Xn2)

273
https://x.com/aricchen/status/2058357470334947535

Japan's new PM is 100% awesome! Read the whole thing.

[...] In April 2026, the Takaichi cabinet removed the "five categories" restriction on lethal weapons exports. In May, Tokyo concluded an agreement with Manila for the transfer of Abukuma-class destroyer escorts to the Philippine Navy — the first export of finished lethal military equipment in Japan's postwar history.

And in November 2025, three months before the Iran war began, Japan made its first-ever transfer of domestically-produced PAC-3 interceptor missiles to the United States military, backfilling American stockpiles depleted by Ukraine.

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 01:37 AM (r8pP+)

274
I bet alot of the newspeople at the White House were the scummy liars who lie about Trump.

Hope they are terrified to be around him now.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 01:39 AM (3ek7K)

275 I bought ground beef and corn on the cob for this weekend. Not really "feelin' it" for the traditional cookout, though... will bring shrimp in garlic butter to go with hubby's lunch tomorrow. He's doing ok I guess.

Meh. My roses are at peak bloom, so should cut bouquets for parents' and late BF's graves.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:39 AM (rdVOm)

276 Hush your mouth.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal

I should clarify: not the band's fault. Just reminds me of a very bad time in my life, that's all.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:40 AM (rdVOm)

277 "watches pitch slowly float by..."
Aetius451AD

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Congratulations on a new way to say something without actually saying it

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 24, 2026 01:42 AM (SVeHj)

278 Hope they are terrified to be around him now.
Posted by: four seasons

I hope they are terrified, period! Serves them right, for promoting the hate.

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:42 AM (rdVOm)

279
Chickens coming home to roost.

Posted by: four seasons at May 24, 2026 01:45 AM (3ek7K)

280
The one I posted about was in Georgia.

Posted by: rickb223


I watched a video recently about some historical goings on in the U. S. state of Georgia -- it may have been the Civil War battles around Atlanta or the Revolutionary War battles around Savannah.

Anyway the AI, for such was its origin, chose to display, briefly, a map of Georgia. It used a map of the country, Georgia, located in the on the Black Sea, in Europe.

Don't ever change, AI. Don't ever change.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 01:46 AM (s9VOe)

281 I watched a video recently about some historical goings on in the U. S. state of Georgia -- it may have been the Civil War battles around Atlanta or the Revolutionary War battles around Savannah.

Anyway the AI, for such was its origin, chose to display, briefly, a map of Georgia. It used a map of the country, Georgia, located in the on the Black Sea, in Europe.

Don't ever change, AI. Don't ever change.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot


Old and busted: Sherman's march to the sea

New hotness: Sherman's march through the sea

Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 01:47 AM (VHUov)

282 273
https://x.com/aricchen/status/2058357470334947535
...
Japan's new PM is 100% awesome! Read the whole thing.
...
Japan made its first-ever transfer of domestically-produced PAC-3 interceptor missiles to the United States military, backfilling American stockpiles depleted by Ukraine.

Posted by: 13times
--

She's also achieved 3 constitutional amendments moving Japan's military to a more aggressive position away from the old defensive standard.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 01:48 AM (sqJYm)

283 MFM doesn't talk much about Biden's War In Ukraine these days... wonder why??? (no, I really don't)

We need to cut Zman completely off. What's taking so long?

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:51 AM (rdVOm)

284
Old and busted: Sherman's march to the sea

New hotness: Sherman's march through the sea

Posted by: mikeski


An AI joke:

Name two leaders who marched their followers through the sea. Moses and William T Sherman

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 01:52 AM (s9VOe)

285 "We put down dogs for less. "

true.
a principle deserving wider application in these times.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:53 AM (VyBeY)

286 https://x.com/aricchen/status/2058357470334947535

Japan's new PM is 100% awesome! Read the whole thing.

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 01:37 AM (r8pP+)

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Sounds like Japan's PM Takaichi is in the mold of the great Iron Lady, Margaret Thatcher

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 24, 2026 01:55 AM (lQA6G)

287
We need to cut Zman completely off. What's taking so long?

Posted by: JQ


Let's give the Euroweenies the opportunity to lead for which they have been begging.

"Here, Euroweenies, catch!"

* Toss the Ukraine War tar baby in their direction *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 01:55 AM (s9VOe)

288 There's an odd thing about this turn of the century photograph (I colorized it.)

The breach-bands on working pack animals caught my interest for reasons I won't bore you guys with. Then I noticed the (funny) Weird Thing.

archive.org link.

https://tinyurl.com/4b4ttknn

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 01:56 AM (r8pP+)

289
"We put down dogs for less. "

true.
a principle deserving wider application in these times.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez


I consider the Gaza Strip to be humankind's mad dog preserve.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 01:57 AM (s9VOe)

290 45, LOL

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 01:58 AM (VyBeY)

291 Let's give the Euroweenies the opportunity to lead for which they have been begging.

"Here, Euroweenies, catch!"

* Toss the Ukraine War tar baby in their direction *
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

LOL! No shit... they hates rooshya so bad! Let them step up, for once.

"Sorry, EU. We got our own problems, and Uke ain't one of 'em. Deal with it."

Posted by: JQ at May 24, 2026 01:59 AM (rdVOm)

292
Cheetas always look vaguely sad to me, like even their own friends have given up on them as hopeless in love and life. At least their dogs love them...
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 01:05 AM (7Wnc/)

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Cheetahs always look thin to me and, in that sense, strangely vulnerable. Even though they are packing 70 mph of teeth and claws

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 24, 2026 02:02 AM (q7IhF)

293 Anyway the AI, for such was its origin, chose to display, briefly, a map of Georgia. It used a map of the country, Georgia, located in the on the Black Sea, in Europe.

Don't ever change, AI. Don't ever change.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot


LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 02:02 AM (2PamV)

294 exactly, KvC, among others ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 02:03 AM (VyBeY)

295 Cheetahs always look thin to me and, in that sense, strangely vulnerable. Even though they are packing 70 mph of teeth and claws
Posted by: JM in Illinois


I like how they'll walk over to the cameraman and either flop down or jump up on the Land Rover and lay down.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 02:05 AM (2PamV)

296 Barack Obama, when in a Memorial Day speech before veterans, he stupidly said of America’s “fallen heroes” that “I see many of them in the audience here today.”

>How did this guy get elected? Remember, half of America has an IQ below 100.

Posted by: Alphonse Gore Esq. at May 24, 2026 02:11 AM (D1E+2)

297 Barack Obama, when in a Memorial Day speech before veterans, he stupidly said of America’s “fallen heroes” that “I see many of them in the audience here today.”

He saw that many in the audience were frantically jabbing their Life Alert signalling devices.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 02:16 AM (s9VOe)

298 Nite all. Hope to see everyone at the food thread tomorrow.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2026 02:16 AM (2PamV)

299 Barack Obama was the first DEI president. People voted for him because they were afraid of being called "racist" and losing their careers thusly.

To be honest, though, McCain and Romney would have also capsized the country. I guess it was in the air.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2026 02:17 AM (CHHv1)

300
Tree hunnert

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 02:18 AM (s9VOe)

301 Barack Obama, when in a Memorial Day speech before veterans, he stupidly said of America’s “fallen heroes” that “I see many of them in the audience here today.”
Posted by: Alphonse Gore Esq.


If you're possessed by demons, does that let you see the dead?

I assume they were all flipping him the bird.

Posted by: mikeski would have at May 24, 2026 02:20 AM (VHUov)

302 @ILA_NewsX - May 23
Idaho gets it. This should be the law in every state.
---
July 1, Idaho begins executing child rapists by firing squad.
--
That's too good for them. They deserved to be hanged.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:23 AM (sqJYm)

303 299, yeah, wow, no kidding, those were some effed-up times.

not much better today, but at least we have the ray of hope that is PDT ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 02:23 AM (VyBeY)

304 Keating Five. John McCain. He was just the "getaway driver." The Maverick!

He was always a low rent, scum sucking, cheap shitweasel.

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 02:23 AM (r8pP+)

305 304, this!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 24, 2026 02:26 AM (VyBeY)

306 @ILA_NewsX - May 23
Idaho gets it. This should be the law in every state.
---
July 1, Idaho begins executing child rapists by firing squad.
--
That's too good for them. They deserved to be hanged.


Posted by: Braenyard

===

Gibbet

Weld into an iron cage and hoist them over Main Street.

So, hanged in a way.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:26 AM (/lPRQ)

307 He was always a low rent, scum sucking, cheap shitweasel.
Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 02:23 AM (r8pP

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For a short time before each election, McMcain pretended to be a true blue conservative Re.publican. After that, he resumed his role as a s*** weasel

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 24, 2026 02:27 AM (v3gtd)

308 ===

Gibbet

Weld into an iron cage and hoist them over Main Street.

So, hanged in a way.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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They did that out here in a small county only out front of the court house on the lawn close to the side walk so the ladies and others could walk by and have a talk (or other) with him before judgement day.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:33 AM (sqJYm)

309 July 1, Idaho begins executing child rapists by firing squad.
--
That's too good for them. They deserved to be hanged.


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 24, 2026 02:23 AM (sqJYm)

By the scrotum.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 02:39 AM (DwqWV)

310 They did that out here in a small county only out front of the court house on the lawn close to the side walk so the ladies and others could walk by and have a talk (or other) with him before judgement day.

Posted by: Braenyard
====

It is in English Common Law. So, by definition, not unusual.
Not particularly cruel. Dehydration before starvation, or exposure in cold.

Totes Legit and Constitutional.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2026 02:41 AM (/lPRQ)

311 265 83 It appears that all African American and Muslim criminals have mental health issues. Therefore they can never be guilty
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 10:41 PM (FpbZP)

I am of the opinion that if someone cannot be held responsible for his actions, then he should not be allowed to choose them. And if there aren't enough psych beds, then there's always "Canadian healthcare" or the Cricket treatment for feral animals.
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 01:20 AM (Sy6m/)

I just love how drunk drivers who kill people don't get sent to jail for life. Somehow, being drunk means they weren't entirely responsible, as if someone held them down and forced them to get drunk.

Murder's murder.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 02:45 AM (DwqWV)

312 Hawaii has just passed laws negating citizens united so corporations can no longer buy elections other states are following their lead.

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at May 24, 2026 02:45 AM (lMl+c)

313 267 And if there aren't enough psych beds, then there's always [...] the Cricket treatment for feral animals.
Posted by: SciVo

You..... make them play silly Indian baseball forever?

Cruel. And unusual.
Posted by: mikeski at May 24, 2026 01:28 AM (VHUov)


Well... we can tell them that!

"There's a game called 'cricket' that would be right up your alley, you hit people with bats! Kristi Noem has her own 'pitch' at the old quarry, here's directions, she'll meet you there."

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 02:49 AM (Sy6m/)

314 >>>Idaho gets it. This should be the law in every state.
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July 1, Idaho begins executing child rapists by firing squad.
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That's too good for them. They deserved to be hanged.


Posted by: Braenyard

>I'm in favor of a system where it doesn't cost the taxpayers a dime. WW11 surplus ammo would be good, but there's a limited supply.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 24, 2026 02:49 AM (D1E+2)

315 288 There's an odd thing about this turn of the century photograph (I colorized it.)

The breach-bands on working pack animals caught my interest for reasons I won't bore you guys with. Then I noticed the (funny) Weird Thing.

archive.org link.

https://tinyurl.com/4b4ttknn
Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 01:56 AM (r8pP+)


Okay, I looked. What's the Weird Thing?

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 02:57 AM (Sy6m/)

316 I actually went to a couple of cricket matches in the UK while stationed there. Nothing major, local teams. Small villages playing each other. They were fun! I don't recall much about cricket though. There is a 'flow' to it but that's all I remember. I had consumed vast pints of bitter, ale, cider, lager, etc. I did watch another match soberish, but I still couldn't explain it to you.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 24, 2026 03:05 AM (sAmhv)

317 Okay, I looked. What's the Weird Thing?
Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 02:57 AM (Sy6m/)

Lower center of the photo. Look between the donkeys legs; another donkey is stooped low to look at the camera.

It's just a curious thing that goes unnoticed!

Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 03:12 AM (r8pP+)

318 Posted by: 13times at May 24, 2026 03:12 AM (r8pP+)

Ah! I see it now! It took some looking just for me to pick out all the faces and signs in the background, but none of them looked 'weird' enough. And even with all that scrutiny, I didn't see the curious donkey.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:34 AM (Sy6m/)

319 300
Tree hunnert
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 24, 2026 02:18 AM (s9VOe)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 03:42 AM (6wpGE)

320 I just love how drunk drivers who kill people don't get sent to jail for life. Somehow, being drunk means they weren't entirely responsible, as if someone held them down and forced them to get drunk.

Murder's murder.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 24, 2026 02:45 AM (DwqWV)


That one I get; they are being held responsible for the "depraved disregard for the value of human life" exhibited by over-imbibing with their keys in their pocket. IANAL but I understand that different states give the charge different names and grades, but that's basically it.

So, killing John Q. Public driving drunk is roughly on par with being a getaway driver for a bank robbery, speeding and weaving in and out, and killing JQP that way. It wasn't specifically intended, but nor was it avoided; the stage for such an event was knowingly set.

That's worse than doing everything right and having no way to avoid JQP when he blows through a red light right in front of you, but better than if you see him on a bicycle and aim at him and floor the gas, and better yet than if you laid in wait for him specifically.

It's those last two kinds of killings where slaps on the wrist are particularly galling.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 03:46 AM (Sy6m/)

321
To be honest, though, McCain and Romney would have also capsized the country. I guess it was in the air.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

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Equally bad, they would have capsized the Republican party and conservatives along with it. Like, this is what you get when you vote R?

(I know, the GOPers were pretty much shooting holes in the hull anyway, but it wouldn't help to have 2 self-proclaimed conservatives giving orders to fire.)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2026 03:49 AM (n7rxJ)

322 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at May 24, 2026 04:31 AM (6wpGE)

323 Tech Thread is tardy.

Disgusting!

Posted by: Hall Monitor at May 24, 2026 04:31 AM (qq/w/)

324 Flags for Memorial Day at Boston Common picture is wonderful and appropriate.

"The Unknown Soldier" by The Doors was an anti-war song, protesting against the Vietnam War, recorded November 1967 & released March 1968 on the album Waiting for the Sun. Yes, it and the over-the-top dramatics by Jim Morrison was loved by many college crowds, hippies and, of course, elitists.

I knew of so many who were drafted or volunteered right out of high school, and some immediately upon graduating college. Several died in combat during the Vietnam War and/or suffered horrible results for years afterwards.

Further, for my first real job out of high school, I had the honor of working for a Physical Evaluation Board in one of several U.S. military hospitals that largely handled many military personnel - both White and Black, women and men - terribly injured, physically and mentally, in that war.

Songs such as that in the mystery click - along with fabricated evening news of the war on main stream media back then - were further morale crushers for those who already sacrificed a great deal for a cause of the nation.

They were not good years in this country.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 24, 2026 01:13 PM (NFX2v)

Saturday Evening Movie Post [moviegique]: Obsession

If I were Hollywood, I'd be worried. I mean, sure, box office is through the floor, the middle-class backbone of the industry moved out of California, and even I couldn't kid myself that I had any idea how to entertain the masses any more.

But I think what would put me into a cold sweat are guys like Damian McCarthy, making profitable movies that are better  constructed and better looking for a fraction of the price. Or worse, perhaps, Curry Barker, whose little horror film Obsession, made for less than a million dollars, made $20 million in its first four days, with an additional $7 million world-wide. (And over $40 million worldwide in its first week.)

What's the secret to this film's smashing success? The staggering drawing power of Andy Richter.

I kid. He's in this film, and the only name I recognized, yet I never actually noticed him while watching the movie. (I'm sure he played the second female lead's father, owner of the music store where the four principals work. But I'm actually guessing, it was such a small part, and he's lost a lot of weight and gotten a lot older since the early days of Conan's show—about the last time I saw him.)

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Pictured: Not Andy Richter. (I couldn't find even a single shot of him in this movie.)

The odd thing about this movie is that there doesn't appear, at least on the surface, to be anything remotely novel about it. There are entire horror movies series devoted to wishes, and the evils such things wreak. Obsessive love? A staple of the '90s, of course, but a theme that never goes away. The classic 1992 Tate Donovan/Sandra Bullock splatterpunk Love Potion No. 9 leaps to mind.

I kid.

The trailers were...murky. Not bad, exactly. They show you the whole plot, but the plot's not usually the thing in a horror movie. And it's a teen-oriented horror from Blumhouse, so there's a little sense of "meh, seen it" but, honestly, what's the trailer maker gonna do about that?

On the other hand, Obsession has a whopping 8.2 on IMDB with over 19K reviews.

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ALMOST as good as Project Hail Mary? You sure you don't want to bump that score up a little bit?

What the heck was going on here? Apparently the original cut of the film shown at film festivals was gorier and had to be trimmed down for an "R". But most of those 19K didn't see the uncensored cut.

Well, look, there aren't a wealth of watchable films to choose from these days. Figuring it would be over-hyped but acceptable, off The Boy and I went.

And, the thing is, this is not an especially novel film in its broad points. But boy is it competently made. Beyond competent, it's aesthetically made. It reminds me a bit of Publish or Perish, in that regard. People who know the language of filmmaking and take the care to speak in it.

As an example, it has this modern characteristic of the blacks not being completely black. (This effect is still possible but it's not done any more for a variety of reasons.) That doesn't means it phones in the lighting design. When Nikki needs to be obfuscated, she's obfuscated. At one point, she's standing in a corner and I couldn't even tell if it was her. The face looked wrong. Which, again, is not a new technique, but it's done very effectively here.

One aspect of the storytelling that was extremely effective is that after the protagonist Bear (short for "Baron", played by Michael Johnston) makes the wish, that Nikki (Inde Navarette) would love him more than anyone in the world, things immediately go wrong. It's not the "Oh, it was nice for a while but now it's going wrong" trope, it's "This is immediately and observably freaky". Bear knows he's done something very wrong.

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"There are warnings ALL OVER that box!"

In other words, we skip the kind of pandering fantasy step where the audience gets the "fun" part of seeing the main character have the relationship he wants with the hot chick. Well, we do get a little of that, secondarily, in the form of a short romcom-ish montage that occurs after we see the real Nikki being consumed by whatever effect the wish is having on her. We know she's experiencing a personal hell.

It's uncomfortable, when it's not downright horrifying.

Bear and Nikki's besties are Ian (Cooper Tomlinson) and Sarah (Megan Lawless). Ian's the sensible "tell her how you feel" guy. Sarah (despite a septum piercing) is also a sensible, protective character. Bear is a coward. At first, he's a sympathetic coward, as his fear of approaching the girl of his dreams is relatable. But as the enormity of what he's done dawns on him (even if only by accident), his cowardice makes him less and less likable—although still somewhat relatable as he didn't really expect the wish to work and the only offered fix is rather extreme.

There is a loophole, of course, but even that doesn't play out like you'd think.

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The writer/director had his playwright dad write the story passage that Nikki reads at this point. And it's a corker!

The acting is great, especially with the four leads, and the peripheral characters do a good job, whether it's as a kind of comic relief or supporting crew. It's not quite the Inde Navarette show, but she has the meatiest role, and she chews it up like a pro: She starts as the sassy, caustic writerly type who unsuccessfully navigates he relationship with Bear, probably out of concern for his feelings or a wariness regarding how broaching the topic of romance might rebound negatively on the group dynamic.

After the wish, vestiges of this character re-emerge, as if the wish has cast her into actual Hell and she can only escape for moments at a time. The rest of the time, she simps, she stares, she demands, she has psychotic breaks, she makes situations uncomfortable and then tries to play it off as humor.

If the Academy Awards weren't just industry-fluffing shills, she would minimally get a nomination for this performance. Think Frederic March for  Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde. Only Navarette is working without SFX makeup. There's an actual old-school light-the-eyeline shot which is great and spooky, especially given how rare those seem to be these days. There may well have been some CGI, but I didn't notice it. Tactics like stretching a mouth too wide or making eyes too big are commonplace, and if it's done here at all, it's suble. (I'm seeing now that there wasn't much CGI except for one scene where, in retrospect, it makes sense.)

But mostly it's just top-notch acting. You're terrified of her, you feel bad for her—she makes Jessica Walter in Play Misty for Me look like a pussycat.

So is it an 8.2? I don't know what the hell that means. I just know if a bunch of twenty-somethings can put this together for $650,000, how hard is it going to be for a modestly financed group in Austin or Miami or any reasonably modern city to do the same? What do we need Hollywood for?

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Average Hollywood exec contemplating future irrelevance.

Also seen this week on the 'gique:

A Magnificent Life: Animated bio-pic of French film director Marcel Pagnol.

Lumiere, The Cinema: French documentary about the boys who built the camera, consisting of about 60 of their movies played back to back.

Hokum From the maker of Oddity, a new moody Irish horror.

I Swear: Literal neurological damage does not trump privelege.

The Sheep Detectives: What it says on the tin. Fun romp.

A Blind Bargain: Also what it says on the tin: A 1922 lost Lon Chaney horror reimagined as a 1970 horror starring Crispin Glover.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:29 PM




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1 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:31 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Nooded, in a sense.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:31 PM (NcvvS)

3 Been watching my favorite war movies this weekend
Battleground last evening
Master and Commander this afternoon

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:34 PM (Ia/+0)

4 >>Average Hollywood exec contemplating future irrelevance.

Average Hollywood exec today wouldn't have anyone so delightful on his shoulder.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:34 PM (NcvvS)

5 Movie Sign!

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 07:38 PM (l26NL)

6 Adding some links at the bottom. Let's see if it works without nuking everyone.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 07:39 PM (/d4WW)

7 A post from the future. Any special secrets revealed?

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 07:39 PM (/VSxT)

8 Could have been third, but read the content. Rookie move.

Posted by: a.moron at May 23, 2026 07:39 PM (X5Jzz)

9 Bye-bye comments!

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:39 PM (NcvvS)

10 Ah, they're back...

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:40 PM (NcvvS)

11 Hey, it worked!

|| 7 A post from the future. Any special secrets revealed?

I cannot explain it. I simply entered the post and hit publish. Sometimes I monkey with the time but I didn't tonight.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 07:40 PM (/d4WW)

12 (grabs popcorn, opens beer)

A rare Saturday night off.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 23, 2026 07:40 PM (sAmhv)

13 I wanted to add the links because it's...look, I saw seven good movies in the past three weeks.

SEVEN, Bob. And they were ALL NEW.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 07:41 PM (/d4WW)

14 Thanks, moviegique!

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:41 PM (NcvvS)

15 Oops, duty calls. Night, all!

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:43 PM (NcvvS)

16 Really good war movie to watch on Memorial Day that is not well known is Between Heaven and Hell with Robert Wagner.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 07:44 PM (qrzX6)

17 You're welcome, Zadar!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 07:45 PM (/d4WW)

18 The Memorial Day movie offerings from Turner Classics are underwhelming to me. But I'm still watching. The original Midway with Chuck Heston is up next. Meh.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 07:45 PM (l26NL)

19 Been also watching war movies haven't seen in a very long time

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:46 PM (Ia/+0)

20 In any war movie, the moment a woman comes on screen the film comes to a screeching halt. Up until such time as she is no longer on screen.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 07:48 PM (l26NL)

21 Thx moviegique. Ms Navarette is a very pretty young lady.
Let's hope she doesn't become like Zeigler or now Milly Alcock , shooting her mouth off and tanking her mocies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 07:49 PM (flmKL)

22 *reads synopsis for Obsession*

That does sound freaky.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:50 PM (zZu0s)

23 Blutarski I am not so sure of that

Watching Hornets Nest with Rock Hudson, doubt seen ghis in over 30 years

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:51 PM (Ia/+0)

24 "...and tanking her mocies."

Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at May 23, 2026 07:51 PM (2Ez/1)

25 20 In any war movie, the moment a woman comes on screen the film comes to a screeching halt. Up until such time as she is no longer on screen.

See also: Peter Jackson's "The Two Towers"


21 Thx moviegique. Ms Navarette is a very pretty young lady.

Don't get your hopes up: She wants to work. She's an amazing talent though.


Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 07:52 PM (/d4WW)

26 If you like war films, there's a fairly recent one worth considering. It's call Greyhound and stars Tom Hanks. Based on the novel The Good Shepherd, it's about a US destroyer captain escorting vital material to the UK. I think it's really good.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 07:53 PM (l26NL)

27 You are right about the shades of Love Potion #9, though. That movie gets more horrifying the more you think about it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:53 PM (zZu0s)

28 Mocies = movies. Hot dog fingers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 07:55 PM (flmKL)

29 Gique, it's like the tiny mammals are coming to the fore after Hollywood dinosaurs got Chicxulubed, and I for one look forward to the next era in moviemaking.

Unlike some here, I mourn the demise of old Hollywood and hope they get the industry back on its feet after some radical realignment.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 07:56 PM (kpS4V)

30 I watched Curry Barkers Milk and Serial movie on YouTube a couple of years ago. It was legit scary and very well done. Im not surprised he did well with Obsession. Good for him.

Posted by: Megthered at May 23, 2026 07:56 PM (4QyfS)

31 See also: Peter Jackson.

Full stop.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 07:57 PM (kpS4V)

32 Watching Full Metal Jacket again

Posted by: Billythesquid at May 23, 2026 07:57 PM (auDTc)

33 Watching Full Metal Jacket again
Posted by: Billythesquid

WHAT is your major malfunction!!??

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 07:58 PM (l26NL)

34 There was a trailer for a Korean action adventure monster movie that came out this week

Hope

youtu.be/Vt7860xZFXk

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 07:58 PM (rbvCR)

35 I do want to see next months new movie Lucky Strikes

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:58 PM (Ia/+0)

36 29 Gique, it's like the tiny mammals are coming to the fore after Hollywood dinosaurs got Chicxulubed, and I for one look forward to the next era in moviemaking.
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I think it is, yeah. Even "Hollywood" has been doing better lately, but their heart isn't in it.

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Unlike some here, I mourn the demise of old Hollywood and hope they get the industry back on its feet after some radical realignment.
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They could re-emerge. I'm not suggesting this will happen but "Obsession" (or probably some other unlikely film) could make, IDK, $500M or $1B or something that makes them go, "Oh, yeah, we can use cinema to make money!"

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 07:59 PM (/d4WW)

37 31 See also: Peter Jackson.

Full stop.
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He managed to make King Kong boring. :`-(

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:00 PM (/d4WW)

38 Go Tell The Spartans.

Vietnam, VC tricks and ARVN corruption, Gazebo Sex and set in 1964 when we should have known then to get far away from that place.

Posted by: Zombie Burt Lancaster at May 23, 2026 08:01 PM (35YvA)

39 Vietnam, VC tricks and ARVN corruption, Gazebo Sex and set in 1964 when we should have known then to get far away from that place.
Posted by: Zombie Burt Lancaster

And the one soldier is named Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 08:01 PM (l26NL)

40 Did you like Hokum? I loved Oddity and and want this to be good.

Posted by: Megthered at May 23, 2026 08:02 PM (4QyfS)

41 I'm not leaving for Western PA till Tuesday. Looks like the NASCAR and Indycar races will be rained out. I think I'll watch 'Taking Chance', which is a fantastic Memorial Day movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 23, 2026 08:02 PM (sAmhv)

42 He managed to make King Kong boring. :`-(
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:00 PM (/d4WW)


This. This was my bitch. Monsters, machine guns, prehistoric monster, gun battles, desperate chases, and IT WAS BORING.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 08:02 PM (rbvCR)

43 The Frighteners by Jackson is an odd one. It has some genuinely creepy moments. At the same time, it does a lot of stuff for laughs. I do not think the balance is right, but I do really like the movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:02 PM (zZu0s)

44 Jackson made dinosaurs boring. Sheesh.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 08:03 PM (rbvCR)

45 I will forgive Jackson because I salute "They Shall Not Grow Old".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:04 PM (kpS4V)

46 40 Did you like Hokum? I loved Oddity and and want this to be good.
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Full review: https://moviegique.com/2026/05/hokum/

The teeldeer: Yes, liked it a LOT, as did The Boy. We both were comparing it to "Oddity", and I don't think it's quite as good. There was something so compelling about Carolyn Bracken in Oddity.

But it's a great low-gore horror, just like Oddity.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:06 PM (/d4WW)

47 43 The Frighteners by Jackson is an odd one.
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It's kind of a mess, but it's fun and energetic. It has a kind of "Lost Boys" feel.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:07 PM (/d4WW)

48 Hiya!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2026 08:08 PM (X8xt3)

49 It has a kind of "Lost Boys" feel.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:07 PM (/d4WW)

Ok. Ill buy that.

Do NOT go back and rematch Lost Boys. It does not hold up great.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:09 PM (zZu0s)

50 >> You are right about the shades of Love Potion #9, though. That movie gets more horrifying the more you think about it.


Yup.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2026 08:09 PM (X8xt3)

51 >>Do NOT go back and rematch Lost Boys. It does not hold up great.


Heh, 80's nostalgia.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2026 08:11 PM (X8xt3)

52
"Obsession" is a really well-made horror movie.

I particularly like a how they subtly work the idea of a creepy possession into the story instead of a change of love by the girl.



Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2026 08:12 PM (iJfKG)

53 The great thing about 80's movies is the packs of feral children getting up to all sorts of unsupervised hijinks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:13 PM (kpS4V)

54 The great thing about 80's movies is the packs of feral children getting up to all sorts of unsupervised hijinks.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:13 PM (kpS4V)
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*sigh* I never got to be one of those kids...

Wait a minute. Yes I did. In the 90s.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 08:14 PM (gnNyN)

55 Supergal
Truth
Justice
Whatever

hahahahahhahahaha

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 08:15 PM (/+uur)

56 Wait a minute. Yes I did. In the 90s.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 08:14 PM (gnNyN)
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Grunge Goonies!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:16 PM (kpS4V)

57
Hokum isn't as good as "Oddity"

I think it's because the build up is too long and the climax where everything comes together is almost a throw away.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2026 08:17 PM (iJfKG)

58 Goodies
Explorers? (Sean Astin was in it I think)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

59 I particularly like a how they subtly work the idea of a creepy possession into the story instead of a change of love by the girl.
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One thing I found particularly uncomfortable? The sex scene. Because...well, yeah. Have to see it to get it. (It is not explicit.)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:18 PM (/d4WW)

60 FL20
Debbie Demwatercarrier Schultz
Token Negro

Standby for further developments

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 08:18 PM (/+uur)

61 Ok that pic looks like shes going to boil a bunny

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:18 PM (bXbFr)

62 || I think it's because the build up is too long and the climax where everything comes together is almost a throw away.

Huh. I really liked the first act, and I thought the movie started going pretty hard after that.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:20 PM (/d4WW)

63 53 The great thing about 80's movies is the packs of feral children getting up to all sorts of unsupervised hijinks.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:13 PM (kpS4V)

I love Feral 80s Chillrens Unsupervised.

When they get buttfucked to death at the vampires house.
hahahahaha

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 08:20 PM (/+uur)

64 They could re-emerge. I'm not suggesting this will happen but "Obsession" (or probably some other unlikely film) could make, IDK, $500M or $1B or something that makes them go, "Oh, yeah, we can use cinema to make money!"
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 07:59 PM (/d4WW)

After the success of the steamed mega hit K-Pop Demon Hunters, they must already know. They're just not interested in doing it. One, because making things is *hard*, and two, because entertainment is no longer the point of American film.

Entertainment is no longer entertainment, it's just another way for the commies to divide and infuriate the populace.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2026 08:20 PM (vE0+H)

65 Ok.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:23 PM (zZu0s)

66 5 Movie Sign!
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 07:38 PM

On that note: I got an email about a month ago stating the Gizmoplex was shutting down. That was the home-base/website of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 revival. They were trying to disconnect the show from any network (since no less than 3 networks have cancelled them) and continue on a direct-to-consumer basis. It didn't work.

I can't say I'm surprised. Or sad, really. There have been three seasons in the revival, and each one has gotten worse. The past season was especially hard to watch. Terrible hosts, that ruined what should have been some good (well, good-when-riffed) movies. The last season really did deserve to kill the show.

...Sort of! It'll be revived again later this year, with four episodes from the RiffTrax crew. (aka, the creative team of the show's Sci-Fi Channel era) Considering how many RiffTrax movies that I absolutely love, I have high hopes for this version of the show...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 23, 2026 08:23 PM (3v7ra)

67 Supergal says men cant take her galness.

Alien
Wonder Woman
Jean Grey

hahaaaaa

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 08:24 PM (/+uur)

68 Weren't they using Patton Oswalt?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:24 PM (zZu0s)

69 Just watched The Chronicles of Riddick, for the fourth or fifth time.

It's free on YouTube if anyone is interested.

Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:24 PM (Q+gd/)

70 Considering how many RiffTrax movies that I absolutely love, I have high hopes for this version of the show...
Posted by: Castle Guy

The new SOL looks awesome! I hope we see Brain Guy and Bobo.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 08:25 PM (l26NL)

71 61 Ok that pic looks like shes going to boil a bunny

*Cat.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:26 PM (/d4WW)

72 || The last season really did deserve to kill the show.

Wow, I would've said the last season was the best of the three!

|| The new SOL looks awesome! I hope we see Brain Guy and Bobo.

We will! You can find the videos of Kevin being fitted for a face mask on YT.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (/d4WW)

73 Just watched The Chronicles of Riddick, for the fourth or fifth time.

It's free on YouTube if anyone is interested.
Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:24 PM (Q+gd/)
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That's one of my guilty pleasures as well.

It has a very weird vibe to it, almost Warhammer 40Kish...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (gnNyN)

74 A lot of "Ford v. Ferrari" shorts are showing up on my YT feed. Man, l love that film.

Posted by: mrp at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (rj6Yv)

75 Ok that pic looks like shes going to boil a bunny

*Cat.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:26 PM (/d4WW)

Its the eyes. Done perfect.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (zZu0s)

76 @67 Terminator 1+2 with Linda Hamilton

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 08:28 PM (FpbZP)

77 A lot of "Ford v. Ferrari" shorts are showing up on my YT feed. Man, l love that film.
Posted by: mrp at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (rj6Yv)

I need to see the full film. The bits and pieces I've seen are fantastic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:28 PM (zZu0s)

78 The original Star Wars is on. Still fun, even though Hamill is a putz

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 08:29 PM (FpbZP)

79 68 Weren't they using Patton Oswalt?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:24 PM (zZu0s)

Yes. A big strike against it. However, he played the villain's bumbling sidekick; a pathetic bumbling moron with no redeeming qualities. So, he actually fits the part pretty well...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 23, 2026 08:29 PM (3v7ra)

80 If everyone has such a problem with strong women, why is K-Pop Demon Hunters the biggest steaming hit of all time. I love how the libs can just completely disregard reality and make it into whatever they want it to be.

It turns out you can just say things.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2026 08:29 PM (vE0+H)

81 Just watched The Chronicles of Riddick, for the fourth or fifth time.

It's free on YouTube if anyone is interested.
Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:24 PM (Q+gd/

Riddick was better imo though I liked the two previous Riddick movies also.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 08:29 PM (qrzX6)

82 The original Star Wars is on. Still fun, even though Hamill is a putz
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I drew a picture of Mark Hamill on my dog's forehead. You should see the Luke on her face.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 08:30 PM (l26NL)

83 ---
They could re-emerge. I'm not suggesting this will happen but "Obsession" (or probably some other unlikely film) could make, IDK, $500M or $1B or something that makes them go, "Oh, yeah, we can use cinema to make money!"
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)
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There is so much 'production money', drugs, and sex floating through the seams that traditional profit is inconsequential.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 08:30 PM (sqJYm)

84 A lot of "Ford v. Ferrari" shorts are showing up on my YT feed. Man, l love that film.
Posted by: mrp at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (rj6Yv)

I need to see the full film. The bits and pieces I've seen are fantastic.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:28 PM (zZu0s)
========

A strong recommend!

I also left a reply to your sunglasses comment at the end of the Hobby Thread.

Posted by: mrp at May 23, 2026 08:32 PM (rj6Yv)

85 Pitch Black was the best imo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:32 PM (zZu0s)

86 Im trying to think who she reminds me of daphne zuniga ione skye but neither went psycho (those are 80s references)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:32 PM (bXbFr)

87 Not that this will surprise anyone but The Boys finale was a big stupid pile of poo.

They literally could've told this story in, oh say a 3 part miniseries.

But, after the 1st season or so TB was about TDS, mocking Christians and pissing off the squares exclusively.

Hard to believe they're making two or three follow-up series.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2026 08:32 PM (iJfKG)

88 I also left a reply to your sunglasses comment at the end of the Hobby Thread.
Posted by: mrp at May 23, 2026 08:32 PM (rj6Yv)

Yeah, they are great sunglasses. Worth the money- which is saying a lot. Plus very light.

*tries to make this on topic* like the goggles Riddick wears in the Riddick movies!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:34 PM (zZu0s)

89 Cuing up Riddick now, the third in the movies, free on Youtube, I've never seen it.

Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:34 PM (Q+gd/)

90 Original Midway starting now on TCM. That is all.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 08:35 PM (l26NL)

91 Ford vs Ferrari is a good movie
I think I could make up a list of top 10 racing movies

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 08:35 PM (Ia/+0)

92 Hard to believe they're making two or three follow-up series.

Sad.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2026 08:32 PM (iJfKG)

One set in the 80s and the other literally titles 'The Boys: Mexico'. Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:35 PM (zZu0s)

93 But, after the 1st season or so TB was about TDS, mocking Christians and pissing off the squares exclusively.
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Yeah, I tapped out after Season One.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:36 PM (kpS4V)

94 Where Eagles Dare ist gut.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:36 PM (2GVsD)

95 Yeah when you mess with the supernatural

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:37 PM (bXbFr)

96 Also, Season 1 was about mocking Christians. I liked the Starlight and Hughie stuff, but I balanced them out and thought 'nah' after that season ended and history has shown me to be prescient.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:37 PM (zZu0s)

97 dammit, fooled, it ain't the movie, it's a review masquerading as the movie.

Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:37 PM (Q+gd/)

98 The boys is what happens when yoi think zack snyder is subtle

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:38 PM (bXbFr)

99 Said no one on earth

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:38 PM (bXbFr)

100 I wanted to watch Midway on TCM, they said I needed a subscription to that channel. My cable bill is almost $300 a month as it is, and no TCM? They can suck the fart out of my ass.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 08:38 PM (snZF9)

101 The Boys: Mexico?

I see an Aztec priest and altar in their future.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:39 PM (2GVsD)

102 There is so much 'production money', drugs, and sex floating through the seams that traditional profit is inconsequential.
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Could be. But there's still money to be made, and someone is going to make it.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:39 PM (/d4WW)

103 72 Wow, I would've said the last season was the best of the three!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (/d4WW)

Really? I couldn't stand the alternate voice of Crow. I will admit that Demon Squad is right up there with The Final Sacrifice as a genuinely-impressive indy-movie. And I enjoy The Christmas Dragon for personal reasons (The adult lead actors were also the leads of the Mythica movies, and the kids put in some genuinely good performances.) But most of the episodes just felt bland. Either unpleasant movies, or boring/off-putting riffs.

By contrast, I would watch season 11's Cry Wilderness, Hollow Mountain, Starcrash, both Wizards of the Lost Kingdoms, and both Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations at the drop of a hat!

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 23, 2026 08:39 PM (3v7ra)

104 The boys is what happens when yoi think zack snyder is subtle
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:38 PM (bXbFr)

You take an author who HATES superheroes. He hates the very idea of superhero ideals.

Combine that with a showrunner who has an ass fixation, a massive inferiority complex and a gigantic case of TDS.

The Boys TV show.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:39 PM (zZu0s)

105 I don't watch much TV. But a few years back I decided I wasn't watching any show that hadn't already ended.

Who needs the grief?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:40 PM (/d4WW)

106 I see an Aztec priest and altar in their future.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:39 PM (2GVsD)

Funny. Its going to be about ICE. You know it will be.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:40 PM (zZu0s)

107 Has anyone seen Mango and Goop?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:41 PM (2GVsD)

108 There's a new movie about Eisenhower coming out -- well, not "Eisenhower coming out", although these days who knows? -- dealing with D-Day . Not sure I can see Brendan Fraser as Ike, although I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:41 PM (kpS4V)

109 By contrast, I would watch season 11's Cry Wilderness, Hollow Mountain, Starcrash, both Wizards of the Lost Kingdoms, and both Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations at the drop of a hat!
Posted by: Castle Guy

Ditto! Especially Cry Wilderness and Star Crash. And the last season I will always watch Beyond Atlantis, The Bubble and The Mask.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 08:41 PM (l26NL)

110 Who needs the grief?
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:40 PM (/d4WW)

Supposedly there is good stuff out there but Reacher has convinced me that critics are reaching sometimes. *rimshot*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:41 PM (zZu0s)

111 93 But, after the 1st season or so TB was about TDS, mocking Christians and pissing off the squares exclusively.
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Yeah, I tapped out after Season One.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:36 PM (kpS4V)

I got the original comic book as part of some Humble Bundles...And immediately deleted it. Just the concept was off-putting. Never tried watching the series, and I try to purge clips of it from my youtube feed. Though I do listen to a lot of people complain about it/mock it.

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 23, 2026 08:42 PM (3v7ra)

112 Has anyone seen Mango and Goop?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:41 PM (2GVsD)
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I did, Anna. Inoffensive fun. Nothing to get excited about, but also not deserving of all the vitriol.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 08:43 PM (kpS4V)

113 If they are in Mexico, why worry about ICE? It will be Mexican immigration that will be after their Yanqui a$$es.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:43 PM (2GVsD)

114 OT: Another leftist whack job has Gone to Canada, opened fire at secret service checkpoint at the White House

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:43 PM (FaOSD)

115 My new all digital somehow got TCM cut off, yet if could get tv to see its non digital could see it. Tried messkng with settings but wouldn't do it.
TCM was probably channel I watched the modt

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 08:45 PM (Ia/+0)

116 If they are in Mexico, why worry about ICE? It will be Mexican immigration that will be after their Yanqui a$$es.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:43 PM (2GVsD)

No, the noble Mexicans will be yearning to leave their paradise and go to the evil, dark, fascist united states to fight the bad orange man. His minions (ICE) will be killing and aiming and doing all sorts of skullduggery.

I am just guessing here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:45 PM (zZu0s)

117 Kind of like ewok soecial in the eighties im not spending 16 bucks on that

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:46 PM (bXbFr)

118 All Hail Eris

Recovering Star Wars Bobba Feet fan-grrl Snarky J's review

https://youtu.be/UseQhG7TL1Y

Got 30 minutes?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 08:46 PM (2GVsD)

119 There's a new movie about Eisenhower coming out -- well, not "Eisenhower coming out", although these days who knows? -- dealing with D-Day . Not sure I can see Brendan Fraser as Ike, although I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

"Pressure" It's Damian Lewis as Montgomery that I have a problem with.

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 08:46 PM (lJ0H4)

120 Update on shooting. Gunman dead. Bystander injured.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:46 PM (zZu0s)

121 I forgot they dubbed Toshiro Mifune's voice in Midway.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 08:47 PM (l26NL)

122 Actually its been dollops of meh

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:48 PM (bXbFr)

123 Gone to Canada?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:48 PM (zZu0s)

124 I like that euphemism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:48 PM (zZu0s)

125 They have a casting for kay summersby so who knowd where they are going with thid

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:49 PM (bXbFr)

126 "Gone to Canada?"


eh

Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:49 PM (Q+gd/)

127 I need to rewatch the Brendan Frasier Mummy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:49 PM (zZu0s)

128 "Gone to Canada?"


eh
Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:49 PM (Q+gd/)

114

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:50 PM (zZu0s)

129 Damian is a real history buff with the ministry source materialat least one ghosted bear grylls* tale

*His granfather ran t force

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:51 PM (bXbFr)

130 Grandfather

The unit that collected nazi weapons research

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:52 PM (bXbFr)

131 Midway is the second time that Henry Fonda played Chester Nimitz. The first was in Otto Preminger's In Harm's Way with John Wayne and Kirk Douglas.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 08:53 PM (l26NL)

132 The Chronicles of Riddick...'s free on YouTube if anyone is interested.
Posted by: davidt at May 23, 2026 08:24 PM (Q+gd/)


So are videos about handlers giving head scritches to tame cheetahs and baby hippos.
I've seen "Riddick", and have made my choices in this stage of my life.

Posted by: everyone loves balloons at May 23, 2026 08:53 PM (gKWVE)

133 Once our cable shuffled its channel offerings and TCM was moved into a ya-gotta-pay-extra tier, we pulled the plug. Prime Video with Britbox/Acorn and The Criterion Channel cover most of what we watch here any more.

On #19 in a re-read of the 24 Donald Westlake's Parker novels and thinking of revisiting the movies. But the prospect of a second viewing of Amazon's disastrous Play Dirty with God help us Mark Wahlberg as Parker gives me pause. Thought Wahlberg was pretty good in The Departed, but he ain't close to Westlake's Parker. He was also miscast as Spenser in the equally disastrous Netflix Spenser: Confidential. YMMV.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 08:53 PM (q3u5l)

134 I dont think je has the gravitas for montgomery either

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 08:53 PM (bXbFr)

135 107 Has anyone seen Mango and Goop?

No?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:56 PM (/d4WW)

136 Huh?

Another weekend, another assassination attempt.

“By any means necessary.”

Well then.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 08:56 PM (A5RD0)

137 Pitch Black was good though. Butcher Bay was better.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 08:57 PM (gKWVE)

138 Huh?

Another weekend, another assassination attempt.

“By any means necessary.”

Well then.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Per the Post, dude thought he was Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 08:59 PM (lJ0H4)

139 By contrast, I would watch season 11's Cry Wilderness, Hollow Mountain, Starcrash, both Wizards of the Lost Kingdoms, and both Edgar Rice Burroughs adaptations at the drop of a hat!
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Those are good episodes, no doubt. I really dug "Santo" and "Beyond Atlantis," you mother-crabber!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 08:59 PM (/d4WW)

140 Pitch Black was good though. Butcher Bay was better.
Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 08:57 PM (gKWVE)

The game? I barely remember it but yeah, I remember it being decent.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:00 PM (zZu0s)

141 15 minutes of infamy 15 minutes of fame

And you are still dead.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:01 PM (2GVsD)

142 Per the Post, dude thought he was Jesus Christ.
Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 08:59 PM (lJ0H4)

Kind of an interesting interpretation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:01 PM (zZu0s)

143 136 Huh?

Another weekend, another assassination attempt.

“By any means necessary.”

Well then.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 08:56 PM (A5RD0)

Details?

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 23, 2026 09:01 PM (T6aVk)

144 Was he also a SUPERSTAR?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 09:01 PM (A5RD0)

145 Great line in Star Wars by Obi Wan " these blast points are too accurate, they were made by stormtroopers" . Apparently forgot how bad a shot most stormtroopers are

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 09:02 PM (FpbZP)

146 Got 30 minutes?
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LOL nope, I'm watching "The Aviator".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 09:02 PM (kpS4V)

147 And you are still dead.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:01 PM (2GVsD)

Which kind of goes against the whole 'Jesus Christ' thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:02 PM (zZu0s)

148 Re the game

A lot of stealth. Take goggles off (see in dark) put them on in light areas.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:03 PM (zZu0s)

149 147 -

Don't we have to wait a few days to be sure on that part?

But I know how I'm betting on this one.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 09:04 PM (q3u5l)

150 Watch The Rocketeer instead ^_-;

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:04 PM (2GVsD)

151 Watch The Rocketeer instead ^_-;
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:04 PM (2GVsD)

This. Joe Johnston. Outstanding.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:06 PM (zZu0s)

152 Theres a twis about johns in the novelization of pitch black

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:07 PM (bXbFr)

153 Like ghost warriors

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:08 PM (bXbFr)

154 The rocketeer was really toned down from the comics

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:08 PM (bXbFr)

155 *Pauses*

By golly, what if? In Where Eagles Dare. Broadsword is not only Burton's callsign but also a code within a code to ID who the traitor is to make sure they are on the Ju 52.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:09 PM (2GVsD)

156 Don't we have to wait a few days to be sure on that part?

But I know how I'm betting on this one.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 09:04 PM (q3u5l)

I just don't think Christ would allow an innocent bystander to be hit, sorry. Plus, you'd think he'd just walk into the white house before shooting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:09 PM (zZu0s)

157 The rocketeer was really toned down from the comics
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:08 PM (bXbFr)

How so? never read them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:10 PM (zZu0s)

158 Update on shooting. Gunman dead. Bystander injured.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 08:46 PM (zZu0s)

These people are nuts. WTF do they think will happen, get off a few shots and go brag to their buddies on social media? Yeah, you showed trump, welcome to your doom.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 09:11 PM (snZF9)

159 Just another wind up toy, maybe? Sometimes I wonder about that.

“What’s the Frequency, Kenneth?”

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 09:12 PM (FaOSD)

160 77 A lot of "Ford v. Ferrari" shorts are showing up on my YT feed. Man, l love that film.
Posted by: mrp at May 23, 2026 08:27 PM (rj6Yv)

I need to see the full film. The bits and pieces I've seen are fantastic.
Posted by: Aetius451AD



It's a great film! I recommend it!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 23, 2026 09:12 PM (sAmhv)

161 Didn't they make a Rowdy Kyle Busch film? I never saw it.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 09:17 PM (D1E+2)

162 Lets say the imagery was more risque

The plots stayed the same

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:17 PM (bXbFr)

163 Was thinking about lining up a few war movies for Monday -- Battleground, To Hell and Back, a couple of episodes of Combat, and maybe The Young Lions.

But given the news any more, maybe Telefon and The Manchurian Candidate (the original) instead.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 09:18 PM (q3u5l)

164 I watched Gosford Park the other night expecting an Agatha Christie-like murder mystery, which it is not although there is a murder. I quite liked it although it's not the most straight forward movie ever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 09:19 PM (ndZc7)

165 This year is garbage ball for the NBA.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 09:20 PM (D1E+2)

166 Nasire Best. Top of Insty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:21 PM (zZu0s)

167 The Young Lions.

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Sgt. Schultz plays an evil Nazi mayor.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 09:21 PM (ndZc7)

168 Update on shooting. Gunman dead. Bystander injured.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

These people are nuts. WTF do they think will happen, get off a few shots and go brag to their buddies on social media? Yeah, you showed trump, welcome to your doom.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

It's a little inefficient, but I suppose if they keep offing themselves like this at a much accelerated rate, the nation as a whole will improve...

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 23, 2026 09:21 PM (ycI94)

169 I can't say I've paid much attention to thugball since the Malice At The Palace.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 09:22 PM (gKWVE)

170 Son and FenSpouse are watching something over a couple of weeks originally released as three films and which is nine hours long- "The Human Condition" by Masakii Koybayashi. They are both enjoying it I think they are on hour seven now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 09:22 PM (lQ+/f)

171 Details?
Posted by: Cow Demon
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They shot him dead.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 09:24 PM (sqJYm)

172 Evidently the guys was known to secret service and had been ordered to stay away from the White House.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:25 PM (zZu0s)

173 > I think they are on hour seven now.

My stepfather watched Shoah three times. Twice in the theater, once at home. 8-0

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 09:25 PM (/d4WW)

174 Mrs. Wrecks had me watch Remarkably Bright Creatures last night. Definitely a chick flick but kind of enjoyable if you're willing to check your brain at the door.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 09:26 PM (ndZc7)

175 Always kinda liked The Young Lions, even though the movie turned the Brando character around six ways from Sunday from the way he was portrayed in Irwin Shaw's novel. Which is a whole lot better than the movie, but what else is new?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 09:26 PM (q3u5l)

176 Yeah but brandos performance is quite nuanced

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:27 PM (bXbFr)

177 My stepfather watched Shoah three times. Twice in the theater, once at home. 8-0
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)

SPOILER ALERT! The Nazis did it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 09:28 PM (ndZc7)

178 For brando who was often over the top

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:28 PM (bXbFr)

179
My stepfather watched Shoah three times. Twice in the theater, once at home. 8-0
Posted by: moviegique


TCM ran it a while back. I thought I'd catch a piece of it but ended up watching the whole thing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 09:29 PM (Cqx++)

180 Always kinda liked The Young Lions, even though the movie turned the Brando character around six ways from Sunday from the way he was portrayed in Irwin Shaw's novel. Which is a whole lot better than the movie, but what else is new?
Posted by: Just Some Guy

I liked the novel, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 09:30 PM (ndZc7)

181 176 -

Thought Brando was just fine in The Young Lions. Weird thing about that flick -- it comes alive mostly in the sequences depicting the Germans (Brando, Maximilian Schell), more so than in the Montgomery Clift & Dean Martin sections. Go figure. YMMV.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 09:31 PM (q3u5l)

182 The very dead no longer pining for the fjords idiot, man watching video and it sounds like a whole mad minute of ammo was aimed at him.

The funny part is watching all the reporters who were near the White House and on the air hit the dirt.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:31 PM (2GVsD)

183 Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 09:25 PM (/d4WW)

Wow! I don't think I could sit in a movie theatre that long, but I admire his commitment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 09:31 PM (n3VHW)

184 The very dead no longer pining for the fjords idiot, man watching video and it sounds like a whole mad minute of ammo was aimed at him.

The funny part is watching all the reporters who were near the White House and on the air hit the dirt.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:31 PM (2GVsD)
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The very definition of playing stupid games to win stupid prizes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 09:33 PM (gnNyN)

185 Never thought much of the alleged pedophile, Brando. His acting was wooden and lackluster.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 09:34 PM (D1E+2)

186 How long before some Dimocr@p will spleef on the air about how 'disproportionate' the response was?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:36 PM (2GVsD)

187 Lot of that going around these days...

@nypost 50m
Gunman who believed he was Jesus Christ opened fire on White House checkpoint, neutralized by Secret Service

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 09:37 PM (diia5)

188 I linked this this morning but it's a war movie releasing in a couple of months that looks like it could be good. My friend says there are too many Pz IIIs for 1944.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 09:37 PM (ndZc7)

189 He waa often over the top perhaps the one where he played the ambassador

Robert shaw should have played kurtz

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:37 PM (bXbFr)

190 The longest movie I ever watched in a movie theatre was "Lawrence of Arabia" not in 1962 ( or whenever it came out. (I'm not that old) but the local theatre does classic movie repeats every so often.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 09:38 PM (n3VHW)

191 SPOILER ALERT! The Nazis did it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy


That's what (((they))) want you to think.

Posted by: Thomas Massie (loser) at May 23, 2026 09:38 PM (gKWVE)

192 “Disproportionate”? I don’t really care, Margaret

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 09:38 PM (FaOSD)

193 But he waa dead by the time it waa released

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:38 PM (bXbFr)

194 His last film was navarrone

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:39 PM (bXbFr)

195 My dad took me to Robinson Crusoe when I was a wee tyke. It seemed interminable

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 09:39 PM (FaOSD)

196 "The Aviator" is as I recalled, well-mounted but lacking something.

Ha! Somebody called Errol Flynn a limey bastard and he retorted "I'm a Tasmanian bastard, you ignorant prick!" and fisticuffs ensue.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 09:40 PM (kpS4V)

197 How long before some Dimocr@p will spleef on the air about how 'disproportionate' the response was?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:36 PM (2GVsD)

They will be on that if and when it is ruled the innocent bystander was shot by SS.

'We have to reduce the SS!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:40 PM (zZu0s)

198 And David Lean was a great director.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 09:40 PM (n3VHW)

199 That's what (((they))) want you to think.
Posted by: Thomas Massie (loser) at May 23, 2026 09:38 PM (gKWVE)

He's hugging the Jews?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:40 PM (zZu0s)

200 157 The rocketeer was really toned down from the comics
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:08 PM (bXbFr)

How so? never read them.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:10 PM (zZu0s)

The girlfriend, Bettie, was a total Bettie Page homage, and was frequently drawn in 1940's pin-up poses...

Shockingly, the original creator (Dave Stevens) only did two stories. Barely over 100 pages of Rocketeer comics. It really deserved more. Other creators have grabbed the license and done additional stories...But I don't really trust modern creators enough to seek out those stories...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 23, 2026 09:41 PM (3v7ra)

201 I always heard "Berlin Alexanderplatz" was the true test of lumbar and bladder fortitude.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 09:42 PM (kpS4V)

202 They used the first half of charles highams book the second half indulged in every rumor about hughes

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:42 PM (bXbFr)

203 I'm not Jesus Christ.
Having made that disclaimer, here's youtu.be/irOJTtEi6jU
This is a series of movies which ensured their directors wouldn't be allowed to swing a camera in that town again.
Ultraviolet and (more so) Jonah Hex look like they deserved better. The producers demanded that these R rated movies (I mean, come on, Jonah Hex couldn't be anything less) be stripped of crucialcritical scenes to get into cinemas with the PG-13 and under 90 minutes.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 09:43 PM (gKWVE)

204 I'm shallow, I'm just enjoying the spectacle.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 09:43 PM (kpS4V)

205 185 Never thought much of the alleged pedophile, Brando. His acting was wooden and lackluster.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 09:34 PM (D1E+2)

He got fat and lazy. Before that, he coulda been a contendah!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 09:43 PM (U0opd)

206 Hm, maybe it was Swiss Family Robinson. Clocks in at 126 minutes. That’s a stretch for a 4 year old prolly

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 09:44 PM (3LcAa)

207 The last PanzerKampfWagen III was produced in 1943, ending an 18,000 vehicle production run. But the StuG III was kept in production.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:44 PM (2GVsD)

208 Eris is going to watch Buckaroo Banzai next.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:45 PM (2GVsD)

209 Me, eight hours and 59 minutes into "Shoah"
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Anon Wrecks: SPOILER ALERT! The Nazis did it.
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Dammit, Anon.

I have not seen "Shoah". I did sit through "The Last of the Unjust" (3:40) and it was riveting.

I can sit through "Lawrence" any day of the week.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 09:47 PM (/d4WW)

210 Aetius

You are assuming Doll Eyes Alex has two brain cells and a smidge of common sense.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:47 PM (2GVsD)

211 Longest one I ever sat through in the theater was Ben Hur (yeah, I'm well past 29). Don't think I've sat through anything in a theater that hit the 3-hr mark since The Sand Pebbles if memory serves, and I don't plan to.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 09:48 PM (q3u5l)

212 Its an odd one

The so called sequel was even weirder

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at May 23, 2026 09:48 PM (bXbFr)

213 The lastest shooter was 21 and a lunatic, probably schizophrenic. Seems he was known to the Secret Service, spent time in a loony bin, and for extra credit thought he was Christ. This psycho fits the profile perfectly. How in the WTF was he out on the street. With a gun which makes the case the only gun laws that work with these shooters is to lock them up.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at May 23, 2026 09:48 PM (gX9CS)

214 Lock the psychotics up. Not the guns. Lock the crooks up. Not the toothpaste.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 09:49 PM (3LcAa)

215 Am I the only one who hears "shooter" and thinks "Oh, the intelligence agencies let another one loose"?

Queen of Diamonds, anyone?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 09:49 PM (/d4WW)

216
I sat through "Platoon" on mushrooms. Intense.
My friend sat through half of "Schindler's List" on LSD. It became too overwhelming.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 23, 2026 09:49 PM (W5mpo)

217 Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 23, 2026 09:47 PM (/d4WW)

I wasn't really aware of the time until it "Lawrence" was over so it kept my attention and I really enjoyed it. Peter O'Toole was such a great actor

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 09:50 PM (n3VHW)

218 I saw "Prometheus" on ayahuasca.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 09:51 PM (kpS4V)

219 Gunman who believed he was Jesus Christ opened fire on White House checkpoint, neutralized by Secret Service
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Somehow I don't think we'll be hearing from this guy in 3 days.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 23, 2026 09:51 PM (W5mpo)

220 I thought THX1138 was bad.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 09:51 PM (3LcAa)

221 I turn into a pumpkin if I stay up past ONT hour
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 09:51 PM (Ia/+0)

222 Gnight Skiperoo!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 09:52 PM (kpS4V)

223 And outta here for the evening.

Thanks for the thread, moviegique.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at May 23, 2026 09:53 PM (q3u5l)

224 "Am I the only one who hears "shooter" and thinks "Oh, the intelligence agencies let another one loose"?"

I think relief pitcher Rod Beck.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 23, 2026 09:53 PM (W5mpo)

225 I think I saw Gettysburg in the Theater.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:56 PM (zZu0s)

226 I saw Cutthroat Island in the theater.

Longest movie of my life.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:57 PM (zZu0s)

227 225 I think I saw Gettysburg in the Theater.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 09:56 PM (zZu0s)

How was it?

Posted by: Mary Lincoln at May 23, 2026 09:58 PM (gKWVE)

228 Watched the Directors Cut of both The Last Emperor and Das Boot , but at home . They're both about four hours

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 09:58 PM (FpbZP)

229 I think relief pitcher Rod Beck.
Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 23, 2026 09:53 PM (W5mpo)

51 saves for the Cubs in 1998.

Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at May 23, 2026 09:58 PM (VJBq9)

230 I saw the Directors Cut of "The Watchmen" at home. Long but worth it.
Some epic movies deserve the epic treatment. Even if Snyder is involved

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 09:59 PM (gKWVE)

231 I forgot this movie is three hours long. Think I'll continue tomorrow.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 09:59 PM (kpS4V)

232
These people are nuts. WTF do they think will happen, get off a few shots and go brag to their buddies on social media? Yeah, you showed trump, welcome to your doom.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 09:11 PM (snZF9)

Death cult member is suicidal, shock film at 11.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2026 10:00 PM (vE0+H)

233 X is blowing up

Posted by: Don Black at May 23, 2026 10:00 PM (ZxPkt)

234 Anna, I have a collectable for you to consider bidding on!!


https://tinyurl.com/axm93z5d

Lockheed "Skunk Works" Preliminary Design Studies: Model Q-12 and Model RS-12 [of the SR-71]

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 10:01 PM (rbvCR)

235 How long before some Dimocr@p will spleef on the air about how 'disproportionate' the response was?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2026 09:36 PM (2GVsD)

I honestly hope they leave that part kind of a secret. Like with the chick who expected rubber bullets.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2026 10:02 PM (vE0+H)

236 Movie's over. ONT is NOOD.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 10:03 PM (VHUov)

237 As an example, it has this modern characteristic of the blacks not being completely black.

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Talcum X at May 23, 2026 10:03 PM (qivay)

238 My dad was a huge movie fan. The last movie he saw in the theater was one of his least favorite things ever. The Fisher King. Terry Gilliam I think. I have never known him to hate a movie so much and it was his last. I don't like God's sense of humor sometimes.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2026 10:03 PM (vE0+H)

239 'Gique drops this gem, and no one socks Joe Biden???

As an example, it has this modern characteristic of the blacks not being completely black.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 10:04 PM (1Ff7Z)

240 If Hollywood didn't learn from the success of "Godzilla Minus One", they'll never figure it out.

The only way the current Hollywood model makes any sense if one assumes that woke funds like B****R*** are financing these movies to push their agendas. For many, the loss of a few tens of millions of dollars is a rounding error, and if by doing it they set the rules for public discourse in the country, they'll think it's worth it.

Of course, it may be that the current Hollywood model makes no sense at all - it just happened.

Posted by: Nemo at May 23, 2026 10:36 PM (4RPgu)

241 27 You are right about the shades of Love Potion #9, though. That movie gets more horrifying the more you think about it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:53 PM (zZu0s)


Probably no one will ever see this comment, but yes, it was disturbing on many levels. I thought the subtextual implications were an intentional counter-point to the light, breezy romcom atmo, so I was actually offended when they chickened out at the end. By the internal logic of the story, the church scene with the antagonist ought to have ended like Pakis on a tween, but they couldn't accept that they were writing a horror story.

It is probably only a matter of time until someone remakes it with AI; if not 'splatterpunk' per se, then at least 'psychological horror', leaning into the logical implications and making the subtext into text.

Posted by: SciVo at May 24, 2026 04:34 AM (Sy6m/)

242 Wow, SciVo, I guess I should watch that.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at May 24, 2026 01:50 PM (/d4WW)

243 The only one of those movies I want to see is The Sheep Detective, mostly because it’s talking sheep and I find Australians exceptionally funny.

Posted by: RebeccaH at May 25, 2026 09:43 AM (VFung)

Hobby Thread - May 23, 2026 [TRex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. For this week, the Wheel of Hobbies (TM) decided on a color theme for this Hobby Thread.

A color theme? What does that mean? Colors are a "hobby"? The ways of the Wheel are strange and mysterious but there is a method to the madness.

[Top Photo: Benjamin Moore Paint Color Fan Deck. Yours for only $30]

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What are you hobbying?

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. All (legal) hobbying is welcome. We have a theme, but no need to stick with the theme. Even if the theme does not speak to you, find something else or offer something else relating to hobbying. Leave politics and religion to threads elsewhere (unless your hobby is building or restoring a church). Pants are optional. As always, puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice and do not be rude. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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Why are we talking colors? Could it be that so many hobbies involve colors? Paintings, photography, crafts, stained glass, furniture, knitting, cross stitch, and more. "What color should this be?" "What color goes with this?"

Or maybe TRex did a color theme for the Wednesday ONT and had overflow content... We'll never know. Hey! Look, a squirrel! Anyway...

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This photo is from Hobby Lobby, but I will bet that at least a few among the Horde have something similar in their personal stash of hobbying materials:

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Remember these?

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When TRex was a youngster, kids with 64 crayon boxes were living large.

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Apparently 120 crayons is the big box these days...

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How crayons are made:

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Matchy, matchy:

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Matching paint:

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Making your own milk paint? Guess so.

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Untitled Blue Monochrome, 1956
Yves Klein

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I don't get it.

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Anyone wise in the ways of dying fabric? Me neither.

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Your brain "interprets" color? Apparently so.

Why the world couldn't agree on the color of "the dress"

I already don't trust my own brain for other reasons (such as "good" judgement). This doesn't help.

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Colorful origami stars:

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The official Barbie Pink color is recognized as Pantone 219 C. The most commonly cited Hex code is #E0218A. (HEX codes are a standard digital color format based on the RGB color model.)

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I can't find official numbers, but the M&Ms color mix for plain chocolate candy is believed to contain:
24% Blue
20% Green
16% Orange
14% Yellow
13% Red
13% Brown

Why Were Red M&M's Discontinued for a Decade?

In 1976, Mars, the candy company that makes M&M's, eliminated the red version of the candies from their mix. This decision came as a result of public controversy surrounding a synthetic dye called FD&C Red No. 2, also known as amaranth. The dye was used in red food coloring and was linked to cancer in a 1971 Russian study.

The Food and Drug Administration's subsequent tests produced inconclusive results in humans, but found that it caused malignant tumors in female rats . The FDA concluded that the food colorant could not be presumed to be safe for human consumption and banned it in 1976.

"The red food coloring in question was not actually used in M&M's chocolate candies," according to mms.com. "However, to avoid consumer confusion, the red candies were pulled from the color mix."

Afraid that worried shoppers would steer clear of M&M's altogether if the bags contained anything red, Mars removed the red candies from production and replaced them with orange M&M's.

Mars reintroduced red M&M's, but kept orange in the bag, in 1987, once the panic surrounding anything red had passed.

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Ansel Adams is well known for his black and white photography of Yosemite. Don't think I've ever seen a photo of Ansel Adams though. Here is such a photo (naturally, in black and white).

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Photo credit: wikipedia

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an church theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

Notable comments from last week:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute your own. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 05:30 PM




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1 Welcome hobbyists

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)

2 White!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:31 PM (1Ff7Z)

3 Oops. Wrong answer.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:31 PM (1Ff7Z)

4 These days anyway.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:33 PM (1Ff7Z)

5 I did find air dry clay, which I need to carve the medallion I want to make, then when dry use to pour molten metal in.
The clay will be easy to carve and repair and do again if needed.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)

6 Afternoon, hobby people,

This is a rather apt topic. Earlier today I went to the Sherwin-Williams site and was playing with their "Paint a Photo" feature. You pick various colors for a palette, then click on an area in the photo -- living room, kitchen, bedroom, exterior, etc. -- to see what it would look like on a room or house similar to yours. Or, they say, you can upload a photo of your own. I might do that and see if the software will let me change the colors in the areas I want.

I like light blue walls for bedroom and living room, and a deeper sort of grayish blue for the exterior, with white trim and a red door. For some reason I think a red door is cool.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:34 PM (wzUl9)

7 I did a painting called Complementary which obviously was about complementary colors. You can see the painting in my nic.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 05:35 PM (qrzX6)

8 Did you know that Roy G Biv is a friend of Jason D?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:36 PM (1Ff7Z)

9 Don't think I've ever seen a photo of Ansel Adams though.

I'm sure you have. He was the premiere photographer of the Western States and National Parks.

You've seen this undoubtedly.
Half Dome, Yosemite
https://tinyurl.com/mn38ub66

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 05:36 PM (diia5)

10 Color is very important if you do original artwork. Gotta get the balance right or everything looks smushed.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 23, 2026 05:37 PM (CHHv1)

11 I like light blue walls for bedroom and living room, and a deeper sort of grayish blue for the exterior, with white trim and a red door. For some reason I think a red door is cool.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:34 PM (wzUl9)

Any house in particular, yet?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:38 PM (1Ff7Z)

12 Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 05:36 PM (di

I think he meant the man himself.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 05:38 PM (qrzX6)

13 If this medallion works, painting a buff color strap white will be the last thing I need.
It's for a black powder cartridge pouch, Europeans mostly used white belts, a reenactment Virginia Revolutionary soldier I saw had a buff belt, guessing that's what it was made for.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:39 PM (Ia/+0)

14 9 Don't think I've ever seen a photo of Ansel Adams though.

I'm sure you have. He was the premiere photographer of the Western States and National Parks.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 05:36 PM
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Seen his photos, yes. Seen him? Less common.

Posted by: TRex - photo editor dino at May 23, 2026 05:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

15 Are we allowed to call them colored samples?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 05:40 PM (zZu0s)

16 Polynikes it didn't work, at least for me

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:41 PM (Ia/+0)

17 colors: women vs men

https://tinyurl.com/2vkwawut

Posted by: yara at May 23, 2026 05:41 PM (WUJRe)

18 It's for a black powder cartridge pouch, Europeans mostly used white belts, a reenactment Virginia Revolutionary soldier I saw had a buff belt, guessing that's what it was made for.
Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:39 PM (Ia/+0)

Maybe it was easier to make something buff instead of white?

Was buff considered to be something like skin tone? I remember as a kid I saw a painting of G. Washington and his family, and I thought he wasn't wearing any pants! Then I noticed the pants were buff colored.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:41 PM (1Ff7Z)

19 Roy G Biv is a person of color.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 05:41 PM (Cqx++)

20 Polynikes it didn't work, at least for me
Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:41 PM (Ia/+0)

Thanks for letting me know. I dont know how to fix it .

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 05:43 PM (qrzX6)

21 Posted by: yara at May 23, 2026 05:41 PM (WUJRe)

Or, designers vs. regular people.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:43 PM (1Ff7Z)

22 Long ago, haven't seen it it years, had a photo book of Ansel

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:43 PM (Ia/+0)

23 Per our discussion last night about west Texas, i went looking for an image of a thunderstorm several miles away in the desert. My initial results: a shit ton of AI fake ass shit.

I really wish I had had a good camera back when I was a kid. They are really amazing to see.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 05:43 PM (zZu0s)

24 Seen his photos, yes. Seen him? Less common.
Posted by: TRex - photo editor dino


meh. All bald, old white guys look alike.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2026 05:44 PM (diia5)

25 One college class I took discussed the psychology of color. Some people think it's real, others think it's bunk.

Maybe in nature, but I don't know if a color on a wall gives the same feeling as leaves on a tree.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:44 PM (1Ff7Z)

26 This is unrelated to color, but I've never seen a photo of Ansel Adams that I can recall , but I am glad to see one here . He was a nice looking man

And I love the colored threads.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 05:46 PM (n3VHW)

27 Hiking through the Olympic National Rain Forest will offer more shades of green than you ever thought possible.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 05:47 PM (A5RD0)

28 I used to enjoy painting my plastic model assembly kits. Especially the custom cars, with spray paint. AMT had a "lacquer" spray; Pactra had an enormous range of colors, including some metalflake and candy colors; Testors didn't have as much range. I enjoyed considering the car, stock or custom, and deciding what kind of colors for body and interior suited it. A dark blue '65 T-Bird with a cream-colored interior, for instance; a white '64 Lincoln Continental convertible with a dark blue interior.

Once I built AMT's 1/25 scale Mercedes 300SL, the famous Gullwing, painting it a kind of metallic red (an AMT color, I think) with a black interior.

Later I got into sailing ships and modern military ships like subs. The last kits I built were Tamiya 1/35 scale German tanks, and without an airbrush I had a time creating camo pattern on the King Tiger tank.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:47 PM (wzUl9)

29 Thanks for letting me know. I dont know how to fix it .
Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 05:43 PM (qrzX6)

Are you talking about the one with the birds, purple heart, and the road? Comes up for me on Brave.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

30 Ok, another thing about color: nurse and I were discussing Maui Jim sunglasses. Now, these are polarized lenses. One thing I have noticed is that colors seem much more vivid when wearing them (green of leaves for example.) I wonder how much of that is a function of cutting glare down to virtually nothing (less washed out) and how much is the polarization itself. Maybe THAT IS the polarization itself.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 05:47 PM (zZu0s)

31 Colors! I love colors since I was a very little girl, and am very fussy about them. I used them in my crafts, of course, but also in painting rooms in the current house to sell next year - and it needs to be just so!
Of course, then there will be the new house....never ending fun!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 05:48 PM (IQ6Gq)

32 It's no Rothko

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 05:48 PM (Cqx++)

33 Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:47 PM (1Ff7Z)

Yes

Hit or miss I guess

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 05:48 PM (qrzX6)

34 Ansel Adams has a series of photos from the WW Eleven Japanese Internment Camps (tm). Very interesting and not what one would expect. Shorpy dot com had a number of them. Not sure if you can get the coffee table book though.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 05:49 PM (/lPRQ)

35

An ardent conservationist since adolescence, from 1934 to 1971 Adams served as a director of the Sierra Club. (Later, in the 1980s, he explicitly and forcefully attacked the environmental policies of the very popular President Ronald Reagan and his secretary of the interior, James Watt.)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 05:50 PM (Cqx++)

36 I like light blue walls for bedroom and living room, and a deeper sort of grayish blue for the exterior, with white trim and a red door. For some reason I think a red door is cool.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026
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Any house in particular, yet?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026


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Yes! A nice little 3BR-1 bath w/ garage in Terre Haute. I've been pre-approved for the loan. The inside has been done, and well, but I want to repaint the tan walls of living/dining room and main bedroom with a light blue. The exterior, the vinyl siding, can wait -- it's a kind of light gray now -- but some white trim touch up and that red door would be things I'd do early on.

It needs a front porch gutter replacement and has a couple of cracked windows, but it looks livable right from the start.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:51 PM (wzUl9)

37 4 Ansel Adams has a series of photos from the WW Eleven Japanese Internment Camps (tm). Very interesting and not what one would expect. Shorpy dot com had a number of them. Not sure if you can get the coffee table book though.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 05:49 PM (/lPRQ)

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/
collection/manz/

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 05:51 PM (zZu0s)

38 Man, I still get envy looking at those 64 crayon boxes. They had a built in crayon sharpener! I assume all the kids in my preschool that had them drive pretentious cars now and don’t signal.

Posted by: HappyFun at May 23, 2026 05:52 PM (CoQfd)

39 25 One college class I took discussed the psychology of color. Some people think it's real, others think it's bunk.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:44 PM
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There is some pretty interesting stuff on the interwebs on this. Didn't include much in the content, but fascinating subject.

Posted by: TRex - rods and cones dino at May 23, 2026 05:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

40 For those few hundred color's there are 10,000 names for them

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:53 PM (Ia/+0)

41 It needs a front porch gutter replacement and has a couple of cracked windows, but it looks livable right from the start.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:51 PM (wzUl9)

Sounds good. Now all you have to do is....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:54 PM (1Ff7Z)

42 It needs a front porch gutter replacement and has a couple of cracked windows, but it looks livable right from the start.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:51 PM
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Outstanding!

Posted by: TRex - handyman dino at May 23, 2026 05:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

43 Do you see a red door and want to paint it black?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 05:54 PM (Cqx++)

44 Ok, another thing about color: nurse and I were discussing Maui Jim sunglasses. Now, these are polarized lenses. One thing I have noticed is that colors seem much more vivid when wearing them (green of leaves for example.) I wonder how much of that is a function of cutting glare down to virtually nothing (less washed out) and how much is the polarization itself. Maybe THAT IS the polarization itself.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


I have a pair of prescription sunglasses that I got all the option/upgrades on. Colors seems enhanced. Directly overhead on clear summer days the sky looks almost black / really deep navy blue.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 05:54 PM (/lPRQ)

45 Man, I still get envy looking at those 64 crayon boxes. They had a built in crayon sharpener! I assume all the kids in my preschool that had them drive pretentious cars now and don’t signal.
Posted by: HappyFun
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Oh, I wanted one of them badly...but no luck. Imagine all those crayons and the works of art they could have contributed to!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 05:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

46 As for car colors, I refuse to have a car with a dark interior. Yeah, I know the general wisdom, "Black doesn't show dirt." Maybe if you're a coal miner. Gray dirt shows up on black upholstery, all right. A cream interior looks larger inside and is cooler on a hot day. Plus it usually creates a strong contrast with the exterior. The Euro car makers still understand this and offer a couple of light shades; American car companies offer only tan, gray, and black.

I would have been willing to make an exception for a 1968 Mercedes 280SL I sat in at a dealer in Denver. The exterior was a kind of a dark silver, and the interior was -- chocolate brown! Great combo.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:55 PM (wzUl9)

47 There is some pretty interesting stuff on the interwebs on this. Didn't include much in the content, but fascinating subject.
Posted by: TRex - rods and cones dino at May 23, 2026 05:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

I can see it both ways, Rex, but the feeling you get sitting on a camp chair overlooking a lake with a bright blue sky above and mountains in the distance isn't the same as looking a blue living room wall.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:56 PM (1Ff7Z)

48 There is a very good book on color called The Secret Language of Color. It covers the science and nature of colors.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2026 05:57 PM (qrzX6)

49 Well, this is an unexpected topic but brilliant. Just starting to think about the way some of my hobbies use color:
- art especially, for me, pastels and colored pencils, how they look on various surfaces and how they blend.
- fly tying where the use of color, sometimes rather subtle, is at least as important as action.
- tone of the finish when dealing with wood - red or brown based can make a huge difference in bringing out the grain.
- photography where the arrangement and intensity of color makes a huge difference in effect - also how different films handle certain colors.

This is just off the top of my head.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 05:58 PM (yTvNw)

50 It needs a front porch gutter replacement and has a couple of cracked windows, but it looks livable right from the start.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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How exciting, congrats! If you are already picturing room colors, it must be the right one.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 05:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

51 47 the feeling you get sitting on a camp chair overlooking a lake with a bright blue sky above and mountains in the distance isn't the same as looking a blue living room wall.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 05:56 PM
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Agreed.

The part I find interesting is how much context your brain uses to conjure what you "see." It tries to help fill in gaps and make educated guesses.

Posted by: TRex - seeing eye dino at May 23, 2026 05:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

52
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/
collection/manz/

Posted by: Aetius451AD

Just skimmed it.
Even got one of the job board.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 05:59 PM (/lPRQ)

53 It needs a front porch gutter replacement and has a couple of cracked windows, but it looks livable right from the start.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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How exciting, congrats! If you are already picturing room colors, it must be the right one.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026


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It's not perfect. I'd love to have the bathroom open into the main bedroom, for instance. And the garage, while it's a double, is out back; crossing from it to the back door with groceries in the rain won't be pleasant. Maybe I can put a covered walkway in. But the interior is roomy, there is a small basement, closets in the bedrooms upstairs, and even one of those 1960s-style windows in the kitchen that opens into the dining room -- like in Rob and Laura Petrie's house!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:01 PM (wzUl9)

54 Hey! Look, a squirrel! Anyway...
----
Yes, I'm here...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 06:02 PM (gnNyN)

55 In theatre classes I learned that colors create emotional responses in the audience. Generally, greens and blues are "cool" colors, because we equate them with grass and water. Browns are sort of neutral. Reds, yellows, and oranges make us think of hot sunlight or fire. This is pretty obvious stuff, but Miss Linda insists there are "warm" greens and blues, and "cool" reds and yellows. I suppose that is a kind of subtle distinction I haven't learned about.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:04 PM (wzUl9)

56 I have a true story on colors and names.
See if can tell it short.
Millwork maker got order for a car dealer customer service desk s. The name was only a woman's name, not blue or in this case purple. They made and I picked up all this millwork and delivered and unloaded it. As car dealer employees slowly came in many laughs, joking wrong color. Finally a more supervision came in and not joking it was wrong color.
All had to be taken and remade as Millwork guy ordered a color with no reliability it was what he ordered.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 06:04 PM (Ia/+0)

57 Hey! Look, a squirrel! Anyway...
----
Yes, I'm here...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
*********
Excellent, now the party can start.....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 06:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

58 A long time ago in a city far away I spent a summer working at Meijer in Kalamazoo, MI.

Part of my job was mixing color for paint, which was interesting.

We had to consult a book for the recipe for each color and then we'd mix it according to "yanks" from the key dye dispensers (CMYK, I think). The base color was white and the more "yanks" of a certain tint were added, the deeper the color would be would be for that tint.

It was not an exact system.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 06:07 PM (gnNyN)

59 So glad you included Ansel Adams in the post. The blacks, whites, and HUGE scale of grays between them are as complex to deal with as all the other colors. This applies to photography but also pen and ink and graphite drawing.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 06:07 PM (yTvNw)

60 Speaking of colors, back in the Eighties there was a "Four Seasons" color fad in women's clothing and makeup. It applied to men as well, I understood. Winters, Springs, Summers, Autumns. I dropped Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 at the department store one Saturday to have her colors done -- a fair redhead with blue eyes; I suppose she was a Summer or Spring? When I walked in to pick her up, the stylist looked at me and said, "This must be The Autumn."

Fortunately I like autumn colors like rust and brown and green, and did even before I heard of that scheme.

Miss Linda is a classic Winter.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:08 PM (wzUl9)

61 Just skimmed it.
Even got one of the job board.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 05:59 PM (/lPRQ)

The guy doing the mural is pretty cool.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 06:09 PM (zZu0s)

62 I just put the finishing touches on 3 28mm figures. A Urak-Hai orc, a Female Cleric, and a goblin from the Slap tribe.

The Slap tribe is named after the blogs old friend, Slapweasel. These goblins specialize in pulling some of the best practical jokes ever invented.

Miss ya Slapweasel!!

Posted by: Will Robinson at May 23, 2026 06:10 PM (zBgIx)

63 Miss Linda is a classic Winter.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
************
I, too, am a Winter

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 06:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

64 58 A long time ago in a city far away I spent a summer working at Meijer in Kalamazoo, MI.

Part of my job was mixing color for paint, which was interesting.

It was not an exact system.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 06:07 PM
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Interesting summer job. Did you sell paint at a discount that customers didn't want or didn't quite turn out right?

Posted by: TRex - discount dino at May 23, 2026 06:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

65 Color related. When I had cataract surgery a couple of years ago I found that it didn't just restore acuity. It restored being able to fully see colors. The difference between pre and post surgery was staggering. Colors I hadn't seen properly in decades.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 06:13 PM (yTvNw)

66 I've been watching a guy on YT who uses violet and blue as filters on his models and it's amazing the depth those colors create.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at May 23, 2026 06:13 PM (h/O4U)

67 Interesting summer job. Did you sell paint at a discount that customers didn't want or didn't quite turn out right?
Posted by: TRex - discount dino at May 23, 2026 06:12 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I don't recall. It was decades ago...

It's pretty difficult to get paint to be an *exact* match because it changes color when it dries. The "yank" system seemed to work pretty well for most folks.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 06:14 PM (gnNyN)

68 Pretty sure I've never seen any of the "white" honeys. I wonder if it's determined by the specific species of bee or by what they forage on.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 06:16 PM (vTZFs)

69 Went through the military medical testing procedures as described in Alice's Restaurant those many years ago, and part of it was color blindness testing. IIRC, there were 24 circles of color with a number in it, which I failed to see in 22 out of the 24 circles.
Obviously, today's posting is not about one of my strengths. I asked the guy testing me whether that got me out of the draft. He said no, it got me into an open helicopter door as a spotter, since camouflage would bee less effective on me.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 06:17 PM (/VSxT)

70 Apparently color-blindness is far more common in men than women.

Something like 1 in 8 men suffer from a form of color-blindness.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 06:18 PM (gnNyN)

71 Thanks for another mighty colorful Hobby Thread, T Rex!

My color fan was only $15 at Sherwin Williams. Too many colors to contemplate...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 23, 2026 06:19 PM (D/6p1)

72 Paint companies used to give away those fan decks for free if you did enough business with them, I’ve still got a couple around. Mainly I went with Sherwin Williams.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 06:20 PM (U0opd)

73 The interior color of one of my cars is called "Stone". I call it gray. Mrs fd called it something else but I don't remember what it was. Anyway, why not just call it gray?

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:22 PM (vFG9F)

74 My picnic table outside and my computer room are painted a color called 'Cheerful' from Sherwin Williams.

It's a very nice bright yellow.

Didn't work today but it is beautiful.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 23, 2026 06:23 PM (Sco7b)

75 LOL! I'll bet I know what sparked this topic, TRex!
Color can make or break a painting, that's for sure. Knowing how to mix colors and not dilute them (presuming you want vivid, saturated color) is a teachable skill. And color plays a major part in the composition of any art piece. My current painting instruction/mentor is a wizard when it comes to handling color and since studying with him, my abilities jumped 200%. I'm now doing gallery-ready level work, not that I want to show in a gallery.

Got a favorite color? Mine is green, although green is actually one of the most difficult colors to wrangle in a painting. My least favorite color is blue (gasp).

Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 06:23 PM (NtoJk)

76 polynikes,
Question about 'Complementary'. Is there a subtle darkening of the background as you look from left to right? It's subtle and might have just been my monitor.

Interesting concept. The realism of the Purple Heart medal and the blue eye stood out for me.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 06:23 PM (yTvNw)

77 Color schemes?

Havta post this classic from Frasier:

https://youtu.be/gZAUXVw_TW4

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 06:23 PM (2Ez/1)

78 "Something like 1 in 8 men suffer from a form of color-blindness.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel"

A form? Like when I say a wall is white and I am informed that it is "Tibetan Snow"?

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:24 PM (vFG9F)

79 I used to have a bunch of color decks, too ....must have discarded them when we moved....had no idea they are charging now. I know that I've almost recreated certain color shades just from visiting my Benjamin Moore store and taking their samples

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 06:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

80
Pillow talk conversation.

Her: Why do you refer to my kids as crayons?

Him: Different colors from the same box.
.
.
.
*click*

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 06:26 PM (2Ez/1)

81 A form? Like when I say a wall is white and I am informed that it is "Tibetan Snow"?
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:24 PM (vFG9F)
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There are various types, depending on which rods/cones are functioning in the eyeball.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 06:28 PM (gnNyN)

82 Me: That there color is yellow

Her: No, it's lemon custard.

Me: Lemon custard IS yellow.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:29 PM (vFG9F)

83 In the South, the ceiling of the front porch has to be blue.

https://tinyurl.com/y2m8h5ep

It's science.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 06:30 PM (2Ez/1)

84 One of the most disturbing things I have leaned about color is brown is not a color. It changes the way you look ate everything.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:32 PM (vFG9F)

85 Anyway, why not just call it gray?
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:22 PM (vFG9F)

Car companies are like that. Ebony instead of black. Light slate instead of Grey. Light dune instead of light brown. Ivory instead of white. Thats one company. Another does macchiato for their Light brown.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 06:32 PM (zZu0s)

86 Pantone is the standard. Colors coded/numbered for clarity.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 06:33 PM (D1E+2)

87 https://tinyurl.com/y2m8h5ep

It's science.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 06:30 PM (2Ez/1)

Then, they proceed to tell you twelve colors of "blue."

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 06:34 PM (1Ff7Z)

88 Our porch ceiling is white. I never got the memo. The wall is blue though.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:35 PM (vFG9F)

89 If we stick to just the color of a "Color Revolution", and not the politics of it, will that fit? There is more controversy over the color of the 2020 U.S. coup, than over whether there was one.

I maintain that it was a Black Revolution, for two main reasons:

* Most telling: Black was the color that some people changed their social media avatars to a solid block of, and that is a standard characteristic behavior in Color Revolutions.

* Also relevant: Black was one of (IIRC) only two colors used in official organization names, and the other didn't really matter. All the national and local Black Lives Matter groups were very active on the field; Code Pink was (at best) cheering from the stands.

* Not relevant, but worthy of mention to dismiss: Black is also in the name of Black Bloc, but that is actually just a standard tactic in transnational revcom training, in Europe and around the world. They dress in all black and move in a block, so that no one specific thug can be definitively attached to any one specific boot to the head. Of note, it's only useful for destabilizing countries with strong civil rights laws; others would just punish them all together.

Posted by: SciVo at May 23, 2026 06:36 PM (Sy6m/)

90 Off hobby topic.
For those who include music, especially singing, as a hobby there is a YT channel called Jonasquin. He takes popular songs like Sweet Caroline, Stayin' Alive, and Bridge Over Troubled Water and recreates them as madrigal or Renaissance styles, mostly acapella. He really catches the harmonies and cadences. One episode details the formula (more like guidelines) for making the styles. Haven't played with music theory in over 50 years but some of it came back while listening.

I love madrigals even though they rarely include a bass vocal line. A horrible detraction from an otherwise gorgeous music. Very sad for someone whose top range barely goes above middle C. (SIGH!)

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 06:41 PM (yTvNw)

91 An article on how to prepare your house to sell it said, if there is anything purple in the house, paint over it before you put the house up for sale. So color must matter.

Posted by: Wenda at May 23, 2026 06:44 PM (pBmgI)

92 I'll just leave this here..

https://youtu.be/uu1tODovlBQ

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 23, 2026 06:44 PM (nbLIj)

93 Shots fired outside white house. Supposedly SS killed two fools.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 06:45 PM (zZu0s)

94 Top of the page at Insty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 06:46 PM (zZu0s)

95 Sorry for the OT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 06:46 PM (zZu0s)

96 One of the best examples making fun of stupid fashionable color names came from, appropriately enough, the Red Green Show. He told a story about trying to match a color called 'whisper of tomato' for his wife. The man is a comic genius.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 06:47 PM (yTvNw)

97 {i]One of the most disturbing things I have leaned about color is brown is not a color. It changes the way you look ate everything.
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:32 PM (vFG9F)

Who the heck told you that? Brown is part of the Orange family. It's just orange with blue added to it. Some artists call brown "destroyed orange."

Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 06:47 PM (NtoJk)

98 Polynikes, got it now
Sort of a old crochet sampler

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 06:47 PM (Ia/+0)

99 I love dark blues and purple and dark green.

But bright yellow daffodils make me smile. And the soft pink of a sweet peony.

My apartment is very butter yellow. And a lot of my furniture is pine. So there’s a lot of honey and yellow. I have clamshell pink chairs and am about to buy a sea foam green velvet couch.

I live on the beach.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 06:48 PM (A5RD0)

100 #90. Adding vocal music to a color thread. Thanks a bunch in making me feel totally not at home.
Besides color blind, have a voice to die from, not for.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 06:48 PM (/VSxT)

101 One of the most disturbing things I have leaned about color is brown is not a color. It changes the way you look ate everything.
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:32 PM (vFG9F)
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Oh, you have no idea what's really out there....

Posted by: The Colour out of Space at May 23, 2026 06:48 PM (gnNyN)

102 Oh, you have no idea what's really out there....
Posted by: The Colour out of Space at May 23, 2026 06:48 PM (gnNyN)

LOL! Another Lovecraft fan!

Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 06:49 PM (NtoJk)

103 "It's just orange with blue added to it."

I know. Weird huh?

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:49 PM (vFG9F)

104 Oh, you have no idea what's really out there....
Posted by: The Colour out of Space at May 23, 2026 06:48 PM (gnNyN)

LOL! Another Lovecraft fan!
Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 06:49 PM (NtoJk)
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One of my favorite Lovecraft stories. It's just so weird.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 06:50 PM (gnNyN)

105 75 LOL! I'll bet I know what sparked this topic, TRex!

Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 06:23 PM
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Didn't spark it but absolutely confirmed the choice!

Posted by: TRex - color consultant dino at May 23, 2026 06:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 Adams was traveling extremely light in that photo. He normally used an 8x10 view camera, I believe (8x10" being the size of the plate/negative). You'd have to be damned dedicated to hump one of those into the wilderness.


I'm amassing quite a collection of different colors of 3D printing filament. It's gotten to the point that if you ask me to print a new frammistat spacer for your turboencabulator, you're probably going to get a magenta or bright orange one, depending on which spool has the most on it, rather than the utilitarian white or black you might expect.


> Black is also in the name of Black Bloc,

It will never stop being funny that a group of "anarchists" will put on uniforms and march in formation.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2026 06:51 PM (IG3/x)

107 If you mix every color, you get green. At least, if you're washing your oil painting brushes in odorless thinner.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 06:51 PM (1Ff7Z)

108 An article on how to prepare your house to sell it said, if there is anything purple in the house, paint over it before you put the house up for sale. So color must matter.
Posted by: Wenda
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When our current house initially went on the market, every room was a different very vibrant color: purple, blue, bright red, orange, etc. It did not sell.
They repainted everything, except the bright red room, a neutral yellow. Then it sold...and I've repainted every room, starting with the bright red....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 06:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

109 When you look at a pine tree, you don't think "blue and orange". You think brown. But it's not a color. It's an illusion, the way we interpret the world, even though the color doesn't exist.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:52 PM (vFG9F)

110 Purchased a Cray-Pas 88 piece Wooden Box set for my daughter 20+ years ago as remembered these from my childhood and being fascinated with the color palette. Guessing she was USMC-minded and partial to Crayons as found the set this year in unused and pristine condition while de-cluttering.
No longer available but for reference:

https://tinyurl.digital/j338tw

Posted by: Billy the Mountain at May 23, 2026 06:52 PM (fnQvM)

111 99 But bright yellow daffodils make me smile.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 06:48 PM
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Same for Mama Rex. She always looks forward to daffy season each year and has hundreds in her gardens.

Posted by: TRex - daffy dino at May 23, 2026 06:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

112 Very cool thread. My eyes have always been drawn to bright colors and spectra.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 06:53 PM (RIvkX)

113 I hesitate to mention this, but the Yves Klein painting is upside down.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 23, 2026 06:54 PM (PiwSw)

114 87 https://tinyurl.com/y2m8h5ep

It's science.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 06:30 PM (2Ez/1)

Then, they proceed to tell you twelve colors of "blue."
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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In Japan there were only shades of blue until the concept of green was introduced by western cultures.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 06:54 PM (sqJYm)

115 I've seen examples of art done with the big Crayola collection of crayons. Some of it is amazingly realistic. (I wanted one of those 64 count boxes so bad as a youngster. Never got close.)

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 06:55 PM (yTvNw)

116 For those who include music, especially singing, as a hobby there is a YT channel called Jonasquin. He takes popular songs like Sweet Caroline, Stayin' Alive, and Bridge Over Troubled Water and recreates them as madrigal or Renaissance styles, mostly acapella. He really catches the harmonies and cadences. One episode details the formula (more like guidelines) for making the styles. Haven't played with music theory in over 50 years but some of it came back while listening.

I love madrigals even though they rarely include a bass vocal line. A horrible detraction from an otherwise gorgeous music. Very sad for someone whose top range barely goes above middle C. (SIGH!)
Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 06:41 PM (yTvNw)

I sang in the university chorus's madrigal group for a season. I described it to outsiders as "Medieval barbershop". It was fun..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 23, 2026 06:55 PM (nbLIj)

117 They repainted everything, except the bright red room, a neutral yellow. Then it sold...and I've repainted every room, starting with the bright red....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 06:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

Funny, yellow makes me think of sickness. Except for a bright yellow Schwinn ten speed.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 06:56 PM (1Ff7Z)

118 Homer and the "wine-dark sea"... supposedly the Greeks of that time didn't distinguish between blues and purples.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2026 06:56 PM (IG3/x)

119 "If you mix every color, you get green. At least, if you're washing your oil painting brushes in odorless thinner."

In my experience, you get mud. And it's a PITA cleaning out the container; just did it yesterday. That's where surgical gloves come in handy!

I think the biggest crime against humanity was Gay Liberation hijacking the rainbow. I love rainbows, the spectrum, and the color wheel (all kinds of color wheels) but now if you have any chromatic sequence of colors, it's perceived as frickin' gay.

Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 06:57 PM (NtoJk)

120 When I was painting motorcycles I used to like mixing up colors. I did most of the paint jobs using candy colors. I was able to make some wicked nice colors, but damn, if you ruined it down the road matching it was a problem.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 06:57 PM (snZF9)

121 Guessing she was USMC-minded and partial to Crayons as found the set this year in unused and pristine condition while de-cluttering.
No longer available but for reference:

https://tinyurl.digital/j338tw
Posted by: Billy the Mountain

On ebay at $150+ per set, that's where your found one should be going. You can split 80-20 with your daughter.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 06:57 PM (/VSxT)

122 I like light blue walls for bedroom and living room, and a deeper sort of grayish blue for the exterior, with white trim and a red door. For some reason I think a red door is cool.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:34 PM (wzUl9)


The advice I got when I bought a house was to "paint using the color palette for your favorite fruits"
I chose pear for the bedrooms, and in scrambling around I decided on an Eau de Nil for the living room since it was close to oak leaves without being too dark. Then I figured the Eau de Nil was too dark anyways, so I did the walls with windows in Eau de Nil and did the blind walls two shades lighter, in Pale Celadon, which turned out very nice
The gentle yellow with the brown trim and doors is a good combo, and it helps in the windowless hallway as well.

The kitchen is white. I need all the light I can get

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 06:58 PM (rbvCR)

123 Evening, TRex and Hobby Horde. Just had a nice visit with AZ Deplorable Moron and his lovely wife.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 06:58 PM (8zz6B)

124 In my experience, you get mud. And it's a PITA cleaning out the container; just did it yesterday. That's where surgical gloves come in handy!

I think the biggest crime against humanity was Gay Liberation hijacking the rainbow. I love rainbows, the spectrum, and the color wheel (all kinds of color wheels) but now if you have any chromatic sequence of colors, it's perceived as frickin' gay.
Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 06:57 PM (NtoJk)

Well, yeah, the detritus is mud, but the liquid is green.

The rainbow for perversion was chosen on purpose to insult the maker of the rainbow.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 23, 2026 06:58 PM (1Ff7Z)

125 One of the most disturbing things I have leaned about color is brown is not a color. It changes the way you look ate everything.
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:32 PM (vFG9F)

When I got this house the spare bedroom was UPS brown. You're right, brown is not a color, its a frigging war crime.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:00 PM (snZF9)

126 Japan there were only shades of blue until the concept of green was introduced by western cultures.

Posted by: Braenyard


I just can't get this. Literally, inconceivable.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 07:01 PM (/VSxT)

127 I sang in the university chorus's madrigal group for a season. I described it to outsiders as "Medieval barbershop".

Joe Kidd, that's hysterical! I wish I'd thought of that, but I shall file the serial numbers off it and claim it for my own. Sang madrigals in chorus; sometimes you come across a rock song performed in the style of a madrigal and they're a scream!

(FYI, TRex knows I just repainted the background on a painting this past week, which IMHO improved it by 100%. That's where changing a color really pays off!)

Posted by: tankascribe at May 23, 2026 07:01 PM (NtoJk)

128 When I got this house the spare bedroom was UPS brown. You're right, brown is not a color, its a frigging war crime.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:00 PM (snZF9)

Ahem. It's "Pullman Brown." Licensed from the Pullman Company.

Posted by: George at May 23, 2026 07:01 PM (1Ff7Z)

129 The Brown Room. Make someone stay in there and tell them it's orange.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:02 PM (vFG9F)

130 When I got this house the spare bedroom was UPS brown. You're right, brown is not a color, its a frigging war crime.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:00 PM (snZF9)
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I know what you mean. One of the bedrooms of my house was a hideous dark gray when I bought it.

I was able to paint the entire inside a more pleasing color (to me) before I moved in.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 07:02 PM (gnNyN)

131 Adams often waited a long time, days, for that magic moment of light, shadow, and sky. *click*

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 07:02 PM (2Fnww)

132 Pantone is the standard. Colors coded/numbered for clarity.

Pantone is proprietary. RGB is a standard.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 07:03 PM (vTZFs)

133 When I got this house the spare bedroom was UPS brown. You're right, brown is not a color, its a frigging war crime.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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That's how I feel about "frosted persimmons!"
When my parents bought their home it was brown (external). Luckily I was far too young at the time, as my father attached/painted one side every year changing it to a white house.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 07:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

134 When I went to the Grand Canyon as a kid, there was an Ansel Adams studio there. Many black and white shots of the Canyon and the surrounding area. Incredible the beauty he captured with just black and white.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 07:04 PM (viF8m)

135 I'm not sure I have a favorite color. But I have a favorite effect: light, mostly sun light, and how the angle and intensity brings out different qualities in color. Sunlight shining through daffodils mentioned above is a good example. Moonlight, even artificial light can provide the same variations but not as strongly.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 07:05 PM (yTvNw)

136 123 Evening, TRex and Hobby Horde. Just had a nice visit with AZ Deplorable Moron and his lovely wife.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 06:58 PM
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Excellent. Good people.

Always happy when I hear that Morons get together in real life.

Posted by: TRex - dino color license holder at May 23, 2026 07:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

137 A couple years ago my wife and went to the same condo in Florida we'd been going to for about the 3rd time. I took a "beginners" watercolor kit with us. We'd sit on the balcony, having cocktails and paint what we saw.

Then, buy cheap 8X10 frames and hang them with those sticky things that don't use nails.

A year later... they were still there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 07:06 PM (jehhT)

138 Before the bright yellow, my computer room had 1970's brown wood panelling and the ugliest carpet.

If the roof was higher, it would have been the perfect place for people to hang themselves.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 23, 2026 07:08 PM (Sco7b)

139 Color has a huge impact on games. From Candyland to Magic: The Gathering to Warhammer 40K, color plays an important role in how the game is played.

In W40K, for instance, painting Ork miniatures a certain color affects the game rules because Orkish belief powers their technology.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 07:08 PM (gnNyN)

140 Many years ago I had an art professor for a GenEd undergrad course who, surprisingly for an academic artist, was a) talented, b) not a communist and c) a genuinely good guy.


I only saw him angry one time... seems that some boy scout needed a "community project", and decided to paint a pedestrian bridge out on a trail that shitty Forest Service brown. The problem with that was that my professor had made tons of intricate carvings on this bridge ("wood spirits" and other mythological creatures... like I said, he was good). Not only that, but he'd designed it so it would look cooler after it had weathered a bit.

He was very not amused at someone's inbred crotchfruit wrecking it so he could get his Greasy Gopher badge or whatever it was.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2026 07:08 PM (IG3/x)

141 You use miniatures in Candyland?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 07:09 PM (rbvCR)

142 When I got this house the spare bedroom was UPS brown. You're right, brown is not a color, its a frigging war crime.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:00 PM (snZF9)
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I know what you mean. One of the bedrooms of my house was a hideous dark gray when I bought it.

I was able to paint the entire inside a more pleasing color (to me) before I moved in.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 07:02 PM (gnNyN)

My house was a lesson in insanity. The colors here were soooo bad either they were gotten of a clearance shelf, or the dude's girlfriend who picked the colors has the worse frigging taste in colors in the galaxy and should have had her ass removed. Who in their right mind paints the whole central area of the house pumpkin orange. The one bedroom had 2 walls periwinkle and 2 walls a greenish yellow. Another room had 2 walls bright red and 2 walls bright yellow. The one half bath was grey and green. It was brutal.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:10 PM (snZF9)

143 My house was a lesson in insanity. The colors here were soooo bad either they were gotten of a clearance shelf, or the dude's girlfriend who picked the colors has the worse frigging taste in colors in the galaxy and should have had her ass removed. Who in their right mind paints the whole central area of the house pumpkin orange. The one bedroom had 2 walls periwinkle and 2 walls a greenish yellow. Another room had 2 walls bright red and 2 walls bright yellow. The one half bath was grey and green. It was brutal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:10 PM (snZF9)
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Maybe they were colorblind and the colors worked well in the spectrum they could see...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 07:12 PM (gnNyN)

144 "You use miniatures in Candyland?
Posted by: Kindltot"

I used the race car from Monopoly.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:12 PM (vFG9F)

145 My small daughter was aware of my color issues, and knew I abused it to cheat at Candyland. She would get quite pissed off.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 07:12 PM (/VSxT)

146 My house was a lesson in insanity. The colors here were soooo bad either they were gotten of a clearance shelf, or the dude's girlfriend who picked the colors has the worse frigging taste in colors in the galaxy and should have had her ass removed. Who in their right mind paints the whole central area of the house pumpkin orange. The one bedroom had 2 walls periwinkle and 2 walls a greenish yellow. Another room had 2 walls bright red and 2 walls bright yellow. The one half bath was grey and green. It was brutal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Wow. Just wow. Hope you got it for a good price. That sounds like the perfect definition for brutal.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

147 "Maybe they were colorblind and the colors worked well in the spectrum they could see...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel"

Maybe that's what the world looks like to a crazy person.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:14 PM (vFG9F)

148 Thank you for Hobby Thread, Mr. TRex.

I'll try to think of some color commentary.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 23, 2026 07:14 PM (QGaXH)

149 143 My house was a lesson in insanity. The colors here were soooo bad either they were gotten of a clearance shelf,
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:10 PM
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Maybe they were colorblind and the colors worked well in the spectrum they could see...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 07:12 PM
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Maybe now we know where the seconds and rejects at the Meijer paint department went...

Posted by: TRex - Meijer summer paint mixer intern dino at May 23, 2026 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

150 My house was a lesson in insanity. The colors here were soooo bad either they were gotten of a clearance shelf, or the dude's girlfriend who picked the colors has the worse frigging taste in colors in the galaxy and should have had her ass removed. Who in their right mind paints the whole central area of the house pumpkin orange. The one bedroom had 2 walls periwinkle and 2 walls a greenish yellow. Another room had 2 walls bright red and 2 walls bright yellow. The one half bath was grey and green. It was brutal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 23, 2026 07:10 PM (snZF9)


My wife went to an open house by a realtor and says that the colors used throughout the house never matched, clashed and generally looked like the Easter Bunny exploded

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 07:15 PM (rbvCR)

151 It was brutal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Wow. Just wow. Hope you got it for a good price. That sounds like the perfect definition for brutal.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

Sounds like the late 60s.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:16 PM (zZu0s)

152 148 Thank you for Hobby Thread, Mr. TRex.

I'll try to think of some color commentary.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 23, 2026 07:14 PM
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You're welcome. I'm just glad nobody has brought up 50 Shades of Gray.

Posted by: TRex - stadler or waldorf? dino at May 23, 2026 07:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

153 Look at the house while hearing the intro to Ina Gadda Da Vida.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:18 PM (zZu0s)

154 We were always making games from other games. Mousetrap was boring after a couple of games so we jazzed it up with The Game of Life to make it more realistic.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:18 PM (vFG9F)

155 Brown is OK for USFS cabins & signage and stuff.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 07:18 PM (3hFEd)

156 That really is a great intro.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:18 PM (zZu0s)

157 Update:

One dead, one still breathing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:20 PM (zZu0s)

158 152 148 Thank you for Hobby Thread, Mr. TRex.

I'll try to think of some color commentary.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 23, 2026 07:14 PM
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You're welcome. I'm just glad nobody has brought up 50 Shades of Gray.
Posted by: TRex - stadler or waldorf? dino at May 23, 2026 07:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

One of my hobbies now is going through 40+ years of accumulated papers and shredding and shredding and shredding and shredding.....

Why did I keep all that shiiiii.....tuff.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 23, 2026 07:22 PM (QGaXH)

159 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks for being here and contributing. If your lurking, thanks for reading.

The Hobby Thread email box is always open, so write anytime.

You're welcome to hang here in the comments for a while but don't forget to stop by Club ONT later. It will not have a color theme.

Posted by: TRex - pantone dino at May 23, 2026 07:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

160 the mistake on the lake
youtu.be/_XV6Jz3Xg18

Posted by: everyone loves balloons at May 23, 2026 07:25 PM (gKWVE)

161 Update:

One dead, one still breathing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:20 PM (zZu0s)

Moar range time!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 07:26 PM (8zz6B)

162 TRex, thanks once again for this thread. Your mind works in such interesting ways.

Posted by: Wenda at May 23, 2026 07:26 PM (pBmgI)

163 One of the guys might be a bystander.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:27 PM (zZu0s)

164 Update:

One dead, one still breathing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 07:20 PM (zZu0s)

Moar range time!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


One goblin, one bystander...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 07:27 PM (/lPRQ)

165 Blue M & Ms are an abomination unto the Lord. They didn't exist until the 90's, when they replaced light brown. Now, they are a plurality. Heads must roll!

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:28 PM (NcvvS)

166 TRex, thanks once again for this thread. Your mind works in such interesting ways.
Posted by: Wenda
**********
You have no idea how true these words are....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at May 23, 2026 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

167 >>Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:28 PM (NcvvS)

And get off of my lawn!

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:29 PM (NcvvS)

168 Upstairs for the movies!

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 07:30 PM (NcvvS)

169 Hadn't thought because haven't painted any miniatures in awhile that painting is big part of my hobbies

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:31 PM (Ia/+0)

170 >>>Pantone is the standard. Colors coded/numbered for clarity.

Pantone is proprietary. RGB is a standard.

Posted by: Oddbob

>You are correct. But I was in the print industry for many years.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 07:33 PM (D1E+2)

171 Nood Movies....

Oh..wait....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 23, 2026 07:34 PM (QGaXH)

172 Ok, another thing about color: nurse and I were discussing Maui Jim sunglasses. Now, these are polarized lenses. One thing I have noticed is that colors seem much more vivid when wearing them (green of leaves for example.) I wonder how much of that is a function of cutting glare down to virtually nothing (less washed out) and how much is the polarization itself. Maybe THAT IS the polarization itself.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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After I had my cataract surgery, I splurged and bought a pair of Ray-Ban Wayfarers with a prescription +2.5, and a pair of Maui Jim Black Coral sunglasses on clearance. The Maui Jims were distinctly better with colors, and a bit sharper, too.

Posted by: mrp at May 23, 2026 08:17 PM (rj6Yv)

173 Hobby Lobby has Gutermann thread? I never go in there because I hate their parking lot, but now that Joann's is gone, I may need to go there when I get back into sewing. What am I up to? Putting in a garden. I just added two rain barrels, and started watering my garden from the rain barrels. Last year I got a small greenhouse, and I've planted strawberries, lettuce, cucumbers, rosemary, basil, and carrots. I'm planning to put in more lettuce, carrots and potatoes.

Posted by: Nancy@7000ft at May 23, 2026 09:39 PM (4qIhJ)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, May 23

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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Only the Maker of the galaxies Himself, would ever have thought to give mankind such a marvelous gift as the Dog!
~ Joe@Hrothgar

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Meet The PetMorons

We love him, Piper!


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PetMoron Adjacent Animals
Encountered by Members of The Horde

A pair of cardinals decided to raise a family in one of my lilacs in the corner of my yard. There are a couple of chicks in the nest and I try to avoid that corner of the yard.

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This morning the baby cardinals were out of their nest for the first time, so I could finally get their pictures. The nest is very close to my back fence so I couldn't get in close enough to get pictures of the eggs or newly-hatched chicks. These guys should soon leave the nest for good, so now I wonder if the parents will raise a second family in it? Or build a new nest in a new location?

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Well, that worked out great! Glad you were able to get photos of the babies before they left the nest! They still have nest-head, a little.

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A birb, a snek, and a turtle all walk into a weekend post

Hi Katy, some recent wildlife sightings for the Gardening-Nature weekend post. I don't know what kind of bird that is, looks like a bird of prey of some type. All seen here in east Tennessee.

Thank you!

BeckoningChasm

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Oh, my! Nice variety of critters. Any guesses on the species?


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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, May 16

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

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1 Danger noodle!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 03:33 PM (A5RD0)

2 Lucy the Fink says hello. She is also shedding her undercoat and hacking up fur slugs.

Yay.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 03:34 PM (A5RD0)

3 Laundromat tv had panel show with adoptable dogs. One decided to hump a couple, another posed taking a mighty shit. Live tv!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 03:34 PM (Kt19C)

4 Afternoon, pet folken,

The guy giving the dog a drink of water reminds me: I need to clean out the dish I leave on the step for the friendly shorthaired gray cat who visits, and put some more chow out for him.

My two furry thugs are doing well. Big black Stirling is stretched out on the floor after sleeping with me just now. Little gray Dagny was on the couch when I got up, but she got up, shook herself, and trotted away somewhere. Probably not to be seen until near dinnertime, about three hours away.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 03:35 PM (wzUl9)

5 Piper, your horse is more than old enough to vote. What's his name?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 03:35 PM (wzUl9)

6 Yay! Pet Thread!

Kaylee the Calico Kitty Cat (the cutest little cat of them all) has been making messes in my living room and kitchen. She's not using the litter box.

But I understand why. She did something to the back claws of her left hind leg. Almost like she ripped them out entirely. So I can understand how it might not be comfortable to use a litter box.

Imagine someone ripping out your toenail and rubbing sand in the wound. I'm sure that's what it feels like to poor Kaylee.

Unfortunately, none of the vets around here are open on a long weekend. I just have to keep an eye on her and see how she's doing until Tuesday, when I can hopefully get her to a vet for a thorough checkup (she needs a routine checkup anyway).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 03:36 PM (gnNyN)

7 Why didn’t the person taking the video get the dog some water?

Posted by: DavidD at May 23, 2026 03:38 PM (MSTeU)

8
The Big Dummy was Best of Opposite Sex at today's Midwest Borzoi Club specialty but was Best of Breed and first in the Hound Group at the concurrent Grand Rapids KC show.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 03:42 PM (HdYcL)

9 Congrats Hadrian.

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 03:43 PM (lJ0H4)

10 Why didn’t the person taking the video get the dog some water?
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Good point.
Was the video attached to a restaurant or something, maybe?

Posted by: KT at May 23, 2026 03:43 PM (rdeQO)

11 Why didn’t the person taking the video get the dog some water?
Posted by: DavidD at May 23, 2026


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Probably the same kind of person who takes video of someone being assaulted on the subway and does nothing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 03:45 PM (wzUl9)

12 Dancing cockatoo video. " Faithpot" site:

https://tinyurl.com/249jbfmx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 03:46 PM (a9Uqu)

13 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 03:49 PM (Ia/+0)

14 That man giving a strange dog water was nice

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 03:51 PM (Ia/+0)

15 I'm glad I checked my cardinal nest last Sunday morning. By the aftn, both babies had abandoned the nest. The parents are still around but I can't tell if they're going to use that nest for their next brood. It's now in full sun all day so maybe they'll find a shadier location.

Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026 03:55 PM (VnNy+)

16 Horsies are the Best. They make any field or pasture way more beautiful

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 04:02 PM (4vbgA)

17 The Black snake (AKA Indigo) is ubiquitous in Florida and is allegedly endangered. It certainly is around my house and my shovel.

Posted by: ss at May 23, 2026 04:09 PM (e8Nbd)

18 Hey guys,

Just a small cat update

https://tinyurl.com/dg65258

Also, I love this guy on X. He's helping and saving dogs in Thailand.

https://tinyurl.com/4jb4kpab

Posted by: Joyenz at May 23, 2026 04:13 PM (2F0/Y)

19 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 03:36 PM (gnNyN)

I hope your kitty feels better. Poor girl!

Piper, your horse is beautiful.

Posted by: Joyenz at May 23, 2026 04:16 PM (2F0/Y)

20 The Black snake (AKA Indigo) is ubiquitous in Florida and is allegedly endangered. It certainly is around my house and my shovel.
Posted by: ss at May 23, 2026 04:09 PM (e8Nbd)
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I was standing on a bridge over a creek near my house and heard rustling in the nearby grass.

I thought it was just a frog or a turtle.

Nope. It was a snake, maybe two feet long, trying to get away from me. Couldn't tell what kind.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 04:16 PM (gnNyN)

21 Piper, your horse is more than old enough to vote. What's his name?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Vote?

Rename him "Incitatus" and let him run for office.

Posted by: Caligula at May 23, 2026 04:17 PM (VHUov)

22 Yay for pets. The fluffiest scritchiest post of the week.

Daisy the knuckle-headed Malinois is not happy with how much rain we've been having lately. More walks, fewer ball chases. Wet or not, MiladyJo is out throwing balls for her right now. Love them both.

Took Ony the old black cat out on the front porch yesterday. She wandered off a ways, then went under the storage shed briefly. I think that's the farthest afield she's been since we moved to the new house. Not far, but that's okay. She's always been a housecat.

Of the strays here on the ranch, big papa Butterburr shows up almost every feeding and enjoys skritches. Of the kittens, Leo of the golden mane is frequently about, as is the white kit Angel. Stripey hasn't been seen for weeks. Mama Rascal has also been AWOL for a week or so. With so many dangers and predators, we're always happy to see them.

Yesterday and the day before we had birds get into the back porch. One door with magnet-closing screening curtain is open most days, so sometimes unauthorized critters get in. Was able to get both birds to fly out the door. They get so panicky, flying from screen to screen until they hit the exit.

Posted by: mindful webworker - treats for everyone at May 23, 2026 04:18 PM (0poB+)

23 Awwww! Picasso! He is my soulmate. You are the best, KT.

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 04:19 PM (OoFl2)

24 Meow...

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at May 23, 2026 04:19 PM (sAmhv)

25 Unfortunately, none of the vets around here are open on a long weekend. I just have to keep an eye on her and see how she's doing until Tuesday, when I can hopefully get her to a vet for a thorough checkup (she needs a routine checkup anyway).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 03:36 PM

Do you think she would be okay with a different type of litter? Like pine pellets? Maybe they would be softer on her little feets.

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 04:20 PM (OoFl2)

26 At the risk of getting into theological debates, I have to point out that the cartoon at the top is nice, but inaccurate. St Peter stands at the pearly gates for human entry. It's St Francis who stands at the furry pet door.

Posted by: mindful webworker - furry theology at May 23, 2026 04:21 PM (0poB+)

27 Piper, your horse is beautiful.
Posted by: Joyenz at May 23, 2026 04:16

Thank you!

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 04:21 PM (OoFl2)

28 2 Lucy the Fink says hello. She is also shedding her undercoat and hacking up fur slugs.

Yay.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 03:34 PM (A5RD0)

All I did was barely touch the dogs and it's like they exploded. I'm vacuuming daily now or we would be buried under shedded fur. I should probably collect it and knit a new dog.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2026 04:22 PM (DwqWV)

29 Musical interlude: what the cat sees...

Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger (Official HD Video)
https://youtu.be/btPJPFnesV4

Posted by: SciVo at May 23, 2026 04:22 PM (Sy6m/)

30 Unfortunately, none of the vets around here are open on a long weekend. I just have to keep an eye on her and see how she's doing until Tuesday, when I can hopefully get her to a vet for a thorough checkup (she needs a routine checkup anyway).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 03:36 PM (gnNyN)

We have two emergency vets here, one in Anchorage and one in Palmer. Open 24/7/365. But they charge accordingly, and you can end up waiting hours for care, because they are so in need. Sometimes it has been worth it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2026 04:25 PM (DwqWV)

31 Do you think she would be okay with a different type of litter? Like pine pellets? Maybe they would be softer on her little feets.
Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2026 04:20 PM (OoFl2)

Would she tolerate a bandage? Of course, that would probably require the cone of shame.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2026 04:26 PM (DwqWV)

32 Piper beautiful horse. Perfessor, I hope the cat is alright soon.

I may have cat-napped Snowflake today. I messaged my friends.

It's been raining all day. I put her out at almost 3am and around 6:00 am, it was drizzling. Girl was by my back patio. I brought her in, dried her up, brought her to my room and we all tried to get a few hours more sleep.

It's been constant rain so I brought out the emergency cat food and her litter box I keep in the garage. Ralphy's happy his friend is over. When she comes in she rubs up against him and it's so cute. I think we'll all have tuna fish tonight.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. at May 23, 2026 04:26 PM (Sco7b)

33 That appears to be a red-shouldered hawk, ironically named since the white spots in the plumage are the more readily observable identifier.

Posted by: Just some guy who looked it up at May 23, 2026 04:35 PM (TbWk/)

34 Open 24/7/365.…
Posted by: tcn in AK


Forgive me, but I have a gripe. It's 24/7 or 24/365, or maybe 24/7/52(weeks). Not 7/365 in any case.😝

If I air a pet peeve in the pet thread is it petantry?

Butt serially…

Yesterday, I downloaded a slew of pix off my cell. Some great ones of pets, ours and the kids's. I am really going to try to get some submitted for pet thread inclusion.

Posted by: mindful webworker the petantic at May 23, 2026 04:35 PM (0poB+)

35 There are also 24 hour pet hospitals around here at least.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 04:36 PM (zZu0s)

36 I use various brushes and combs on the cats. The old longhair loves getting brushed with a shoe-brush I bought just for her, but she needs a shedding comb in the Spring and fall because of the hairballs.
The other cats get the shedding comb, the nit comb and sometimes the shoe brush when they get needy. I think it helps a bit with the hairballs

I also put out a bowl of lard on the floor so they can lick some up as they need. They sort of like the flavor and it really gets the hair to move through their system instead of making a hairball to hurk back up.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 04:40 PM (rbvCR)

37 Could BC's bird be a merlin?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 04:45 PM (ZVQ1Q)

38 Would she tolerate a bandage? Of course, that would probably require the cone of shame.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2026 04:26 PM (DwqWV)
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She seems to be doing OK for now. The ragged claws have fallen off, and I don't see any excess bleeding on her paw (which are white so I'd definitely notice). She's not limping or spending a lot of time grooming that paw.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 04:45 PM (gnNyN)

39 Cooper's or Sharpshinned hawk?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2026 04:47 PM (X8xt3)

40 What is that silver disc on the ear of the water drinking dog?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 04:49 PM (Cqx++)

41 >>Also, I love this guy on X. He's helping and saving dogs in Thailand.

https://tinyurl.com/4jb4kpab



He is The Best!
IIRC, Bukele had him fly in for a meeting last fall for ideas on caring for strays in El Salvador. Haven't seen any updates, though. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2026 04:49 PM (X8xt3)

42 Cooper’s Hawk has red eyes. Mature adults anyway. Diagnostic

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 04:50 PM (4vbgA)

43 34 Open 24/7/365.…
Posted by: tcn in AK

Forgive me, but I have a gripe. It's 24/7 or 24/365, or maybe 24/7/52(weeks). Not 7/365 in any case.😝

If I air a pet peeve in the pet thread is it petantry?
Posted by: mindful webworker the petantic at May 23, 2026 04:35 PM (0poB+)


I try to pretend it's a sly reference to the Seven-Year Itch, or in this case to Dog Years! That way I don't have to fight my urge to niggle, which I know nobody wants to hear...

Posted by: SciVo at May 23, 2026 05:11 PM (Sy6m/)

44 Fantastic pet thread today. Hope the cartoon showing doggehs at the pearly gates is accurate!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 23, 2026 05:16 PM (Os76D)

45 Would she tolerate a bandage? Of course, that would probably require the cone of shame.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2026


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And there are no guarantees as to how a cat will take to a cone. Dagny is one of the mildest little cats ever. But whne we put that cone on her -- we were advised to do so when she had her spaying -- she went absolutely ballistic, rocketing around the room in panic trying to outdistance this THING on her neck. We finally grabbed her and got it off. So, be aware.

(She never paid a bit of attention to her stitches anyway.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:16 PM (wzUl9)

46 What is that silver disc on the ear of the water drinking dog?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026


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I was wondering that too. An ID tag of some sort?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:18 PM (wzUl9)

47 And there are no guarantees as to how a cat will take to a cone. Dagny is one of the mildest little cats ever. But whne we put that cone on her -- we were advised to do so when she had her spaying -- she went absolutely ballistic, rocketing around the room in panic trying to outdistance this THING on her neck. We finally grabbed her and got it off. So, be aware.

(She never paid a bit of attention to her stitches anyway.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:16 PM (wzUl9)
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Penny, Jasmine, and Kaylee never had to wear a cone of shame when they got spayed. They seemed to do fine with the stitches.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 05:18 PM (gnNyN)

48 Wolfus, the horse that won the Preakness this year is named Napoleon Solo.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2026 05:19 PM (77rzZ)

49 A guy was arrested last week in Indiana for dancing in the street with a turtle

he had some meth on him too

Posted by: Bullet for her Bra at May 23, 2026 05:24 PM (jrgJz)

50 Wolfus, the horse that won the Preakness this year is named Napoleon Solo.
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2026


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I saw that! Wonder if there will ever be an Illya Kuryakin?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:24 PM (wzUl9)

51 Fur friends are proof that God loves us.

When I am sad, Lucy knows it and comes to find me and be there with me. She is such a comfort.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 23, 2026 05:28 PM (A5RD0)

52 All I did was barely touch the dogs and it's like they exploded. I'm vacuuming daily now or we would be buried under shedded fur. I should probably collect it and knit a new dog.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2026


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Years ago in Cat Fancy magazine, people advertised their services to knit a scarf (= muffler) or even a sweater for you from your cat's castoff fur. But I don't recall seeing those ads in its successor magazine, Cats, before it ceased publication recently.

Arizona the red tabby gave up a sort of light cinnamon-colored fur. But most of my cats' fur, gray or black or white-and-black, has been pretty grayish.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:29 PM (wzUl9)

53 Noodus hobbyana

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 05:31 PM (wzUl9)

54 HOBBY NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)

55 I like that top pic.

I've often joked that all house cats like to see themselves as temporarily embarrassed tigers.

Posted by: Bitblt at May 23, 2026 07:18 PM (11pZm)

56 Red Shouldered Hawk
Indigo Snake
River Cooter

Posted by: Sheik Yerbotti at May 24, 2026 11:58 AM (4ywNR)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, May 23

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This is a polyantha rose, Verdun, that doesn't get much over two feet. It's a hybrid from France, first introduced in 1918, could explain the name. It has a flush of bloom in the spring, then a few every once in awhile through the summer. I've had it for years but it rarely blooms this heavily; since the picture was taken all the buds at the top have opened too. The flower is very double and very pink, can see the double blossom and the color better in the closeup.

Lirio100

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It is a lovely rose, and a wonderful way to remember Verdun, where a lot of terrifying things happened over the centuries. My grandfather served near there as a chaplain in WW I, but it was a fort starting in the fourth century. We can remember it for the rose and for sugared almonds in the Gardening Thread. And be thankful that there are memorials rather than more fighting there now.

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Pat* has irises!

This is the dry-stacked stone bed I often mention. In the center is peony ‘Bowl of Cream’, with a native blue flax in front. In the rear are 2 native blue penstemon. The dark purple iris is last year’s purchase, ‘Dusky Challenger’. I need to create a name for the lavender iris with white falls, since my neighbor Kathryn tells me she brought it here from her mom’s home in Tennessee. Any suggestions? (The second stone bed now has white iris ‘America’s Cup’, 2 native Firecracker Penstemon, and a native Orange Globemallow, but still needs a red peony. We also plan to put a native Golden Currant in the ground between the beds. If it all does well, I’ll send more photos next year.)

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A lovely bed! Any suggestions for a name for that iris?


Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Finally, red tomatoes!

By-Tor

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They look scrumptious! Getting there (below)

May 16: My container garden is coming along. Squash, tomatoes and peppers so far.

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The yellow squash looks great! The peppers look ready and that tomato looks like it will be wonderful!

April 24: My container garden after about two weeks. I have about six tomatoes of various kinds, same with peppers, some zucchini, and an herb garden.

Should be going great guns by June.

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Interesting assortment of containers!


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Gardens of The Horde

From badgerwx after I lost most of her post last week:

Greetings, KT.

I've been meaning to send some garden pictures but have been busy. I retired at the end of Feb - just in time for the spring gardening season - so I've been spending my time trying to whip my yard into shape. It's nice to be able to get out in the mornings now to work in the yard, though there are always surprises and setbacks when it comes to gardening. This year I had a surprise frost in mid-April (the week after some 90-deg days), and a pair of cardinals decided to raise a family in one of my lilacs in the corner of my yard. Most of my frost damage was to some of my shrubs and trees. This button bush lost all its leaves except on one branch close to the ground. And 2 crape myrtles in my side yard also lost a lot of leaves. But all of them are leafing out again. We'll see if they bloom this summer.

Frost is a nasty surprise, the cardinals are going in the Pet Thread!

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Luckily, the frost didn't do too much damage. The plants in my back yard were protected by my neighbors' trees and those roses and peonies there bloomed on time. I bought the peony next to the (Carefree Beauty) rose last year and this is its first bloom. The other peonies I bought last year (and added to my peony bed) weren't big enough yet to bloom this year. And I have to salute the knockout rose I bought 20 years ago that's still going strong - though not in this location. I had to move it in the winter of 2020-1 when I put in my fence, but it's bounced back nicely.

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Peony Raspberry Sundae

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Peony bed

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Knockout Rose

My irises in bud weren't affected, but the roses in my side yard have no buds yet. I'll be back in the 90s next week so maybe that will spur them on. The plants on my hell strip had no frost effects even though that is an exposed location.

badgerwx

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Iris Clarence

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I love the hell strip.


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Hope everyone has a nice long weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Garden, Home and Nature Thread, May 16

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:51 PM




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1 Roomy!

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 23, 2026 01:57 PM (TezPK)

2 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
I still didn't get any new vegetables to plant, only in 50s today and tomorrow.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 01:59 PM (Ia/+0)

3 Damn neighbor on property cut down decades old cactus to plant his shitty little seedlings. Occupy the farm!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 02:00 PM (Kt19C)

4 We see a couple varieties of rambling roses growing wild near our front gate every year for a couple of weeks in the spring. Little roses with delicate little thorns that will still stick you.

If you are like me you have that song stuck in your head now.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 02:03 PM (vFG9F)

5 Hell strip!
Love the name.

Posted by: MkY at May 23, 2026 02:03 PM (q6tQZ)

6 There is a soldier in my family tree who was a casualty in WWl--he was lost in the Meuse-Argonne offensive in France on Nov 5, 1918. I didn't know this at the time I bought that rose but now kinda think of it as his.

Posted by: Lirio100 at May 23, 2026 02:03 PM (ky7/T)

7 We had a warmer March than May, and it shows in the garden. I had to plant things out, but they're puny, and just hanging on.
I did collect two (honeybee) swarms in my new swarm traps last night. Big fun. I have to figure a way to hang and retrieve them by myself, though. Awfully awkward.
Iris... In our big bed out front, either the iris have hybridized, or we lost 3 or 4. Are they one of the flowers that all look alike after a few years?

Posted by: MkY at May 23, 2026 02:06 PM (q6tQZ)

8 Hope I got things labeled right for badgerwx.

Posted by: KT at May 23, 2026 02:11 PM (rdeQO)

9 I have been out desultory putting up the posts so I can have a trellis around my blackcap and thimbleberry bushes, and I noticed that the thimbleberry bushes are aggressively smothering out my blackcaps. Since the blackcaps are looking to have a lot of fruit and I am about ready to rip out the thimbleberries because they never fruit, I had to dive into the hedge and pull out a lot of thimbleberry plants.
Both species I gathered in the woods, so they are not exactly domestic cultivars, but I do like them, and they are resistant to the root canker the raspberries died from.

Blackcaps propagate by layering, the canes grow long and put in roots when the top touches the ground. Thimbleberries spread out by spreading rhizomes and are more aggressive.

Other than that, my corn is poking up out of the furrows, and my potatoes are going great guns.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 02:11 PM (rbvCR)

10 Lirio100 at May 23, 2026 02:03 PM

It's possible that my grandfather buried him. He buried American, French and German soldiers, kept records for all of them.

Posted by: KT at May 23, 2026 02:16 PM (rdeQO)

11 Never heard blackberry called blackcap. Had to look it up. What part of the country does that come from? I sure wish I'd planted thornless, so I wouldn't be spraying those darned brambles all the time.

Posted by: MkY at May 23, 2026 02:16 PM (q6tQZ)

12 4 We see a couple varieties of rambling roses growing wild near our front gate every year for a couple of weeks in the spring. Little roses with delicate little thorns that will still stick you.

If you are like me you have that song stuck in your head now.
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 02:03 PM (vFG9F)


Probably a Cecile Brunner...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 23, 2026 02:22 PM (irNtJ)

13 KT,

You did get all the picture labels right. My hell strip is mostly Elijah Blue Fescue that's starting to seed itself (which I was hoping for). But I think I'll keep some of the iris and salvias in there just to break the monotony. I also have some Tete a Tete (yellow dwarf) daffodils planted there that bloom in early spring.

I like Pat's lavender iris but I can't think of any clever names for it. It reminds me of the iris in my pink rose picture. I rented a condo in Dayton OH back in the 90s and divided up my landlady's iris clump to keep it blooming. I potted up one plant and took it with my when I moved and always just called it my blue OH iris, because it looks sort of steely-blue to me.

Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026 02:23 PM (VnNy+)

14 Entirely possible initially, even probable but I also found out when I found his records that his family had him brought here sometime in the 1920's. His grave is actually in Arlington now.

Posted by: Lirio100 at May 23, 2026 02:23 PM (ky7/T)

15 Great looking flowers and veggies!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 23, 2026 02:25 PM (oyck1)

16 Finally after nearly 10 years in this house husband and I have gotten into gardening. I was initially all gung ho about it but got discouraged because the list of things that the deer DON'T eat is so short.

But this year we've finally gotten serious and are actually growing (and starting to harvest) some vegetables! Someone watching us would laugh at these two 29-year-olds acting like little kids on finding a zucchini.

In other news, I now have a huge inventory of zucchini recipes. Biggest surprise so far is how delicious zucchini refrigerator pickles are. We both like them better than cucumber pickles.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at May 23, 2026 02:25 PM (FEVMW)

17 Afternoon, greenthumbs. Not much green in the Peon garden here in AJ. Oleander blooming mightily. Small, hard balls on the pomegranate bush. I've never managed to be here when the fruit is edible.

My Roundup campaign against the nastyweeds back in March paid off very well; most of the sprayees are dead, dead, dead. I will hula-hoe the dead stalks, and put them in the wheelie bin. The dead stalks hoe very easily, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 02:25 PM (8zz6B)

18 Have lately been admiring desert Juniper. Sort of the original bonsai, they grow in difficult conditions to say the least. They have a survival strategy of cutting off water and nutrients to certain branches, after several hundred years they sometimes look more dead than alive. I’ve never seen any noticeable new growth from year to year. The information I can find says they live up to 800 or 900 years, sometimes a little more. It’s a little sobering to see this twisted sentinel on a cliff edge and think it was an old tree 500 years ago. If only they could talk.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 02:25 PM (/0pJR)

19 In other news, I now have a huge inventory of zucchini recipes

Animal. I want to party with you!

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 02:28 PM (/0pJR)

20 Blackcaps propagate by layering, the canes grow long and put in roots when the top touches the ground. Thimbleberries spread out by spreading rhizomes and are more aggressive.

Other than that, my corn is poking up out of the furrows, and my potatoes are going great guns.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 02:11 PM (rbvCR)

I have eaten wild thimbleberries, and they are fine. Taste like raspberry, to which they are related. Very delicate berry; impossible to pack. Eat 'em as you pick 'em.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 02:29 PM (8zz6B)

21 nice stuff!

we are having a very iffy spring so I don't know. worried about some things that were in fact damaged during late frosts.

right now it's irises and peonies and the evening primroses are very showy. they are getting everywhere the naughty things!

blackberries and ground cherries starting. lettuce doing well. thank God for lettuce lol.

hoping my tomatoes hang in, they're growing well now, I probably planted too soon tho

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at May 23, 2026 02:29 PM (j+aD2)

22 got discouraged because the list of things that the deer DON'T eat is so short.

Plantskyyd

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at May 23, 2026 02:30 PM (j+aD2)

23 Great looking flowers and veggies!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 23, 2026 02:25 PM (oyck1)

AZ, we must get together for a beer! I am here in AJ for a few more days.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 02:30 PM (8zz6B)

24 11 Never heard blackberry called blackcap. Had to look it up. What part of the country does that come from?

Blackcaps are black raspberries. Blackberries retain a core when picked, raspberries don't.

Posted by: KT at May 23, 2026 02:32 PM (rdeQO)

25 I love seeing everyone's gardening projects! I see Pat*'s irises like to lean wayyy over like mine do. My irises grew upright in Colorado. I brought the rhizomes with me when we moved to Arkansas. Now they grow and flower much bigger than they did in our mile-high Colorado garden. Even though the stems are nearly broomstick sized, the flowers still end up on the ground.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 02:33 PM (FMtrg)

26 Hell strip is now Heaven's path. Great reworking of an unsightly patch of dirt.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 02:35 PM (kpS4V)

27 We have a little yard hydrant in front of the house, and put a cattle panel over it to plant vines.
We have found NOTHING that deer won't eat. Same deer may not eat it, but there are so many, nothing will last.
Our veggie garden has an electric fence around it. That works.

Posted by: MkY at May 23, 2026 02:36 PM (q6tQZ)

28 Thanks, KT. We call them black raspberries!
Ha

Posted by: MkY at May 23, 2026 02:37 PM (q6tQZ)

29 I keep getting ads for a deer repellent sound thingie (scientific term). Supposedly inaudible to people and pets but drives deer away. Has anyone tried one?

Posted by: Wenda at May 23, 2026 02:38 PM (pBmgI)

30 Weather's been all over the place but my veggie patch has survived. Tomatoes and peppers are chugging along, dragon beans and butterfly peas are coming up, and lots of sunflower volunteers are crowding in. I'll have to transplant a few to other beds.

Plucked a nice sack of lettuces for a dinner salad. No more sad grocery store greens!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 23, 2026 02:40 PM (kpS4V)

31 Unfortunately, I have never discovered an effective method for dealing with deer.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 02:45 PM (FMtrg)

32 OK Mr pharmacist, rohypnol and viagra please. What aisle is the duct tape on?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 02:46 PM (Kt19C)

33 Nice peonies

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 02:46 PM (RIvkX)

34 We have a little yard hydrant in front of the house, and put a cattle panel over it to plant vines.
We have found NOTHING that deer won't eat. Same deer may not eat it, but there are so many, nothing will last.
Our veggie garden has an electric fence around it. That works.
Posted by: MkY at May 23, 2026 02:36 PM (q6tQZ)

12 ga. blank perimeter alarm:

https://tinyurl.com/kdanwd4x

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 02:46 PM (8zz6B)

35 anyone tried one?
They used to sell dog whistle like things for motorcycles.
We called them deer callers.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 02:48 PM (Kt19C)

36 I've received two shrubs from Fast Growing Trees

The cordyline arrived in decent shape even though it took a month, so I gave them another try.

The pieris arrived in 2 weeks obviously tossed around, broken stems, brown leaves. Hopefully with some Miracle Gro soil and some acidic fertilizer I can save it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 02:49 PM (RIvkX)

37 https://tinyurl.com/kdanwd4x fail.
But sounds NFA adjacent

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 02:50 PM (Kt19C)

38 Posted by: MkY at May 23, 2026 02:16 PM (q6tQZ)

Blackcaps are Rubus Leucodermis, they are a type of wild raspberry, though they look like blackberries.
They are a NW berry, and for a while they were grown commercially since they tend to be tougher than raspberries.

The problem with any berry cultivar is that they are very likely to go back to a wild form when they propagate by seed. Even the very restrained Marionberries and Boysenberries will seed to brambles that are mostly identifiable from the Himalayas by the darker canes

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 02:51 PM (rbvCR)

39 Electronic deer repeller? I’d be very very very skeptical. (Plus, they don’t work).

The Deer whistles on cars never worked either. If it can be done safely, turning off your headlights briefly will often allow them to see well enough to get out of the way a little more effectively. Driving at night period has more than a few things to unrecommend it.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 02:52 PM (/0pJR)

40 https://tinyurl.com/kdanwd4x fail.
But sounds NFA adjacent
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 02:50 PM (Kt19C)

Just checked. Works for me. It's practically impossible to put a loaded 12 ga shell into the device. Nothing but a loud noisemaker.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 02:53 PM (8zz6B)

41 For the good size herd of deer here , they don't seem to do much damage

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 02:54 PM (Ia/+0)

42 I like how they are the “King’s Deer” when it pertains to hunting (or poaching for that matter) but the government bears no responsibility nor liability when they total your car. Take it up with your Insurance.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 02:57 PM (/0pJR)

43 End of day riding into steamboat springs for vintage race week a huge buck leapt right in my path. So close all I could see were front and rear haunches. Before a come to Jesus stopping attempt it jumped away like a bunny.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 03:00 PM (Kt19C)

44 I like how they are the “King’s Deer” when it pertains to hunting (or poaching for that matter) but the government bears no responsibility nor liability when they total your car. Take it up with your Insurance.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 02:57 PM (/0pJR)


In Oregon you can harvest road kill, though there is a process to go through.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 03:00 PM (rbvCR)

45 We have found NOTHING that deer won't eat.
_-_
Potatoes are a nightshade, they said, poisonous to animals, they said, deer win't bother them, they said...up about two weeks and _something_ ate all the potato sprouts off all the way to the ground. If you don't cage it here, you don't own it.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at May 23, 2026 03:02 PM (2gJPm)

46 Two weeks ago I bought catnip for the garden, sometimes it survives so I can harvest leaves to dry for tea.
This year it has been eaten to the ground by one or more of the cats. I figured my big tom was chewing it down, but this morning I found my old calico gnawing on the stems and rubbing her face in in.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 03:07 PM (rbvCR)

47 If deer are hungry, they'll eat anything that isn't poisonous. The only sure method to protect plants is a fence. The arboretums in the greater DC metro have wire fences that look to be 12-15 ft tall with barbed wire on top. I've heard that deer have poor eyesight and won't try to jump a solid fence that's at least 6 ft tall. When I got my fence installed in 2020, it was a 6 ft solid vinyl fence. I haven't had any deer in my yard so far and I hope the fence will keep it that way, as my area gets more built up. I've got a lot of plants that deer just love. I've also heard that two 3-4 ft fences set about 3 ft apart will deter them, but you'd need a lot of land for something like that.

Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026 03:09 PM (VnNy+)

48 Unfortunately, I have never discovered an effective method for dealing with deer.
Posted by: Emmie

.308 will end the problem and fill the freezer.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 23, 2026 03:09 PM (oyck1)

49 ...stopping attempt it jumped away like a bunny.
_-_
Glad you managed to avoid it. I had a sister-in-law who was killed when a buck came straight at her and her husband from the side on a Harley (yep, helmets, leathers, boots). Husband barely survived.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at May 23, 2026 03:12 PM (2gJPm)

50 Some years ago, tops of tomato plants above the fence were all eaten, deer only animals that high.
Last year cucumber leaves sticking through fence would be gone but never a cucumber wete touched.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 03:14 PM (Ia/+0)

51 One thing I didn't expect is that my fence would become a squirrel highway. My neighborhood is infested with tree rats and I see them every day, running along the top of my fences to get to my neighbors' trees or the trees across the road. With a pit stop at my back yard bird feeder, unfortunately. I used to have some hawks in the area but haven't seen them lately. I hope the fat, juicy squirrels will attract a new pair of raptors of some kind.

Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026 03:16 PM (VnNy+)

52 Afternoon, folken!

I've never been a garden type, despite my mother filling our patio with plants when I was a teen. The house I'm considering in Indiana could really benefit from some shrubs below the porch, though. And I'm playing with Sherwin-Williams "Paint a Photo" feature on their website to get an idea what a house like mine might look like in a slightly duskier blue, and the walls of a living room in a light blue. Kinda fun.

Some of the house photos have nice brick trim facings on the steps down to the street. Those can be installed on regular stone steps, right?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 03:18 PM (wzUl9)

53 Amen, Don in SoCo!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 03:24 PM (Kt19C)

54 Hell strip? Does that designation have anything to do with hobos?

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 03:27 PM (LHPAg)

55 Wolfus,
I like shrubs along the front of my house, to hide my basement foundation. Just be careful what you plant. A lot of the common shrubs can get 6-10 ft tall (eventually) and you'll need to cut them back occasionally or they'll swallow your porch. I had hollies in front when I bought my house. They wanted to be 10 ft tall so I got tired of cutting them back all the time and removed them. Now I have dwarf (I hope) azaleas that are only supposed to get 3 ft all not obscure my front windows. One of them is a ground-cover azalea (flame creeper) and has only gotten 2 ft tall in the last 10 years.

Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026 03:28 PM (VnNy+)

56 54 Hell strip? Does that designation have anything to do with hobos?
_-_
Rattlesnakes?

Posted by: Don in SoCo at May 23, 2026 03:28 PM (2gJPm)

57 In Oregon you can harvest road kill, though there is a process to go through.
——-

That’s awfully sweet of ‘em, but they won’t fix my car

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 03:30 PM (4vbgA)

58 . . . One of them is a ground-cover azalea (flame creeper) and has only gotten 2 ft tall in the last 10 years.
Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026


***
That, 2-3 feet, sounds about right.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 03:30 PM (wzUl9)

59 Boxwood is another one, it will grow to be 10 ft tall, but usually you go out to turn it into a hedge every spring and you can keep it short and square.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 03:37 PM (rbvCR)

60 I've never heard that area called a "hell strip" before. Neat.

Because it's always hot due to being surrounded by concrete and blacktop, and cooks the vegetation there?

It's either "the berm" or "the boulevard" around here.

A quick DDG search says "verge" is the technical term for it? Or at least the most-common one?

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 03:40 PM (VHUov)

61 Coyotes are kind of a drastic solution to deer.

Posted by: KT at May 23, 2026 03:40 PM (rdeQO)

62 I keep getting ads for a deer repellent sound thingie (scientific term). Supposedly inaudible to people and pets but drives deer away. Has anyone tried one?
Posted by: Wenda


Then you just get the old, deaf deer.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 03:42 PM (VHUov)

63 Coyotes are kind of a drastic solution to deer.
Posted by: KT


Nature is nature.

You have 4 choices. Coyotes are type 3.

1) kill the vermin yourself.
B) have domestic critters that kill the vermin for you.
iii) have wild critters that kill the vermin for you.
4) have vermin.

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2026 03:44 PM (VHUov)

64 RE hell strips: in some northern states that's what they call the strip between the sidewalk and street, or the median strip of a divided street. I think that's because it can be hard to get anything to grow there - even grass. Up north, I think road salt is the main problem. For me, while there is some road salt to deal with, it's the oak leaves from across the street that blows my way all winter long and piles up on my strip. My strip had some very sorry-looking lawn 20 years ago. Since then I've tried all sorts of plants to find ones that grow well but not too well, IYKWIM.

Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026 03:45 PM (VnNy+)

65 Deer are different. They are beautiful, majestic animals. And, they are a dangerous pest, essentially. Dangerous to road traffic, and not a good idea in Suburbia. “Oh! Look at the Deer!”

Yeah, then look at them crash through the sliding glass door and wreak havoc inside your home. Not necessarily common though not unheard of.

I noticed my Deer hunting buddies go to all this trouble with “scents” and special soaps and try to reduce the human odor, which purportedly spooks them.

Maybe. I’ve watched Deer start chewing dirt where people piss, presumably for the salt or minerals. They don’t seem too bothered by humans to me. Maybe during hunting season

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 03:48 PM (4vbgA)

66 I’ve heard it called “parking” or “right of way”. It’s one of those gray areas claimed by the City, but we have the privilege of still being taxed, and they won’t mow it either.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 03:52 PM (4vbgA)

67 Parking strip, from when there was no curbs

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 03:56 PM (rbvCR)

68 I mean you can still park there, it is just harder

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 03:57 PM (rbvCR)

69 I'm a newbie at this, but the pet thread is up and active.

Posted by: badgerwx (long time lurker) at May 23, 2026 04:04 PM (VnNy+)

70 From Boise area: lows 39-48, highs 63-86. Caught and dispatched a second raccoon, but the trail camera shows a third one... we're keeping The Fortress around the cat food dispenser, and trying to bait the trap after dark so magpies don't eat the food first. (They eat it at dawn anyway...)

Planted 2 types of bush beans - 11 pepper starts (5 poblanos, 3 red bell, 3 orange bell) - more radishes - and filled in rows of lettuce, cabbage, carrots (3 of the 4 colors). Transplanted an Orange Globemallow from the paddock to the 2nd stone bed, we'll see if it survives. I've been covering sprouts of peas and beans with styrofoam cups.

Still need to weed the beds and dig out the dead spearmint (we planted some in a pot to corral it, sprayed the rest). Collecting rose petals while the plants are still there (future plan is to remove them).

Dead-heading iris too - I see the deep purple 'Dusky Challenger' didn't show up well against the Austrian Pines. I'll need to take some close-ups!

Posted by: Pat* at May 23, 2026 09:19 PM (ZXZy/)

Seen some transcendent fortitude and steadfastness lately? Where?

memor day.jpg

It was the transcendent fortitude and steadfastness of these men who in adversity and in suffering through the darkest hour of our history held faithful to an ideal. Here men endured that a nation might live.

-Herbert Hoover

Hope your Memorial Day Weekend is starting well. As a country, I think we are a little short on transcendent fortitude and steadfastness. I thought it might be interesting to review a few things from our history that I have run across this week that reminded me of fortitude and steadfastness, and then maybe we could discuss a few other things that we should remember this weekend.


Memorial Day Weekend

Have anything planned to commemorate Memorial Day? I can't top my brother and his wife, who visited Bunker Hill.

Here are some ideas: Ways to Honor our Fallen Heroes on Memorial Day

This site also has a surprisingly detailed page about John Adams, under "Remembering our Founding Fathers". He was a man who exhibited some fortitude and steadfastness.

Johnn Adams.jpg

Here are some details from a different biography of John Adams, which you might share with young people who can read. It is more focused on basics of the development of the country:

John Adams, Biography of One of America’s Most Important Founding Fathers

John Adams was one of the most important Founding Fathers of the United States. He was born in Massachusetts, became a lawyer, and rose to prominence in the early days of the American Revolution. He admired James Otis and witnessed his speech against the Writs of Assistance. In 1764, he married Abigail Smith, who would go on to play an influential role in his involvement in politics.

During the Stamp Act Crisis, he was associated with the Sons of Liberty, along with his cousin, Samuel Adams. Despite his connections to the Patriot Cause, he defended the British soldiers who fired on colonists at the Boston Massacre, because he believed the men deserved a fair trial, and no other lawyers would take the case.

After the Coercive Acts were passed in 1774, he was elected as a delegate to the First Continental Congress and signed the Articles of Association. In 1775, he returned to the Second Continental Congress where he signed the Olive Branch Petition, however, a week later he nominated George Washington to lead the Continental Army. . .

How many kids today understand what is written above? Particularly the Adams quote?

I didn't remember this:

The XYZ Affair was a diplomatic scandal between France and the United States caused by French officials trying to bribe American diplomats in 1797. When the scandal was exposed, anti-French sentiment rose in America, and the slogan “Millions for defense but not one cent for tribute” became popular. As a result, the two nations became entangled in an undeclared naval war known as the Quasi-War. Peace was restored in 1800, but the XYZ Affair had serious long-term effects on the United States. The press was critical of President John Adams and Congress for how the affair was handled, which led to the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts. Two Southern states — Virginia and Kentucky — passed resolutions that said the laws were unconstitutional and that the states had a right to “nullify” the acts. Later, the concept of Nullification became a direct cause of the Civil War.

John adamms.jpg

If only more of the French had been like Lafayette

From A Daily Dose of History. I think this summary underestimates the danger Lafayette faced after the rise of the Jacobins, due to his ties to aristocracy:

Gilbert du Motier, the Marquis de Lafayette, was one of the wealthiest men in France (which is to say in the world), when, inspired by the words of the American Declaration of Independence, he left the comfort and security of his home, traveled to America, and offered his service to the cause of American liberty. At age 19, he was commissioned major general, to this day the youngest person ever to hold that rank in the American army.

Lafayette soon became one of General Washington’s most trusted and capable generals. Having been orphaned at a young age, Lafayette greatly admired Washington, who became a father figure for him. And likewise, Lafayette became like a foster son to Washington, who had no biological children of his own.
To the end of his long and celebrated life, Lafayette remained devoted to his adopted county. He named his only son George Washington, and he named a daughter Virginia.

Having returned to France after the war ended, Lafayette become a key player in the cause of French liberty, and he remains a revered hero in that country as well. He was the principal author of the French Declaration of the Rights of Man, modeling it on the American Declaration of Independence.

Lafayette was 67 years old when, in 1824, President James Monroe and Congress invited him to come to the United States in honor of the nation’s 50th birthday. After Washington’s death in 1799, he had given up his dream of someday returning to Virginia and living near Mount Vernon, but Lafayette was delighted at the invitation and welcomed the opportunity to return to the country he had helped.

At age 76, Lafayette died at his home in Paris. At his request, his son George Washington Lafayette sprinkled the soil from Bunker Hill over his father’s coffin as it was lowered into the ground. An American flag has flown continually over the grave ever since.

When word of Lafayette’s death reached America there was an outpouring of grief that equaled that when Washington died. Flags were lowered to half mast, John Quincy Adams delivered a eulogy in a joint session of Congress attended by the president, the cabinet, the Supreme Court justices, and the American diplomatic corps. Twenty-four-gun salutes were fired by every American naval ship and at every American military post, followed by a single cannon shot every half-hour afterwards until sunset. For six months American officers wore black armbands, and American citizens wore mourning dress for thirty days.

Hundreds of places in America, including at least 36 cities and towns, are named in honor of Lafayette.

Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de La Fayette, the “Hero of Two Worlds,” died on May 20, 1834, one hundred ninety-two years ago today.

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Little-known history. Is this why John Quincy Adams went skinny dipping in the Potomac most mornings?

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Remembering American And Western Culture

We have seen a lot of reports lately about kids who can't read. I would be nice if they could read some things that would help keep American and Western civilization alive, in particular. Here's something different: Richard Nixon's book recommendations. What do you think?

How many kids today know who Thucydides is, much less what a 'Thucydides Trap' is? VDH on China and the USA

Are young people ready for uplifting content on the internet?

Or in a commencement address?

Tip: Don't mention Artificial Intelligence in such an address.


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WEEKEND

The Week in Pictures: Messy Massie Edition

Greetings from Palermo, where I’m currently on a diplomatic mission to sort out the Europeans. Meanwhile, the salient news of the week is that Republicans seem to dealing with the anti-Semites in their midst while Democrats nominate theirs for higher office. More significantly, in purging Sen. Bill Cassidy and Rep. Thomas “Hot Mess” Massie (did Trump ever call him that?—he should have if not), Trump has achieved what Franklin Roosevelt failed to accomplish with his attempted purge of anti-New Deal Democrats in the 1938 election cycle. One more piece of evidence that the somnambulant Biden administration was merely a temporary and aberrant intermission in the Age of Trump. Maybe Massie will switch parties and come back as a Democrat. I hear they are still looking for a candidate for 2028.


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Music

Buck Throckmorton included the lyrics of this song (and two others) in a Memorial Day ONT a couple of years ago. I think it is lovely.

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Taps and Missing Man Formation

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Hope you have something nice planned for this long weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, May 16, Artificial Intelligence vs. Woke?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Really interesting comment thread on this post.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:08 AM




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1 Lots of space here.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:08 AM (E4rtv)

2 second1

Posted by: JROD at May 23, 2026 11:10 AM (IlL6s)

3 Morning, KT!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 23, 2026 11:10 AM (2UnvF)

4 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 11:12 AM (Ia/+0)

5 Hi, Duke!

Hi, everybody!

Posted by: KT at May 23, 2026 11:13 AM (rdeQO)

6 FWIW, that source got the XYZ affair in reverse. One of history's great scoundrels, Talleyrand, demanded the American diplomats pay him bribes to even gain an audience with him. Talleyrand survived multiple different regimes doing the same job.

Being a scoundrel with the morals of an alleycat proved to be very useful for a Foreign Affairs Minister.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:14 AM (E4rtv)

7 Thaks, KT. Our Founders sure knew their onions. As Pappy Eromero would say.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 11:14 AM (LHPAg)

8 Drear weather today and tomorrow but at least Monday should clear up a bit

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 11:16 AM (Ia/+0)

9 Veterans explain meaning of empty, decorated table at Arby's.

https://tinyurl.com/3wcmn9bz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 11:16 AM (2qvfF)

10 "Our Founders sure knew their onions. As Pappy Eromero would say."
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Of course they did. They were right there tied to their belts!

Posted by: Grand Pappy Simpson at May 23, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

11 My opinion is the Thucydides Trap was accurate when Might Makes Right was the controlling factor but that since monarchy has disappeared and the United States became top dog the Trap isn't a given.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:18 AM (qrzX6)

12 Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:14 AM (E4rtv)

He was French so what would one expect.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:21 AM (qrzX6)

13 My little town in blue Rhode Island is very patriotic. That might seem odd but this town has served as a military installation from the Revolution to WWII in various fashions. One of the parks I walk Elvis is named Battery Park because as you can probably guess it a cannon battery during the revolution protecting part of Narragansett Bay. Another is Ft Getty, WWII battery.

We will have our annual parade on Monday and it's great. Lots of current and former military, school band, fire trucks, the works. It culminates, appropriately enough, at Memorial Park which has a number memorials to individuals who died for this country through the years. The Park will be covered with 100 American flags that previously covered the caskets of fallen heroes and donated for use by their families.

I'll be there, rain or shine.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

14 If I get this Thucydides Trap right in meaning, the 7 Years War was one, Frederick jumped before the Austrians had a chance to

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 11:28 AM (Ia/+0)

15 That sounds fantastic, JackStraw!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 23, 2026 11:28 AM (2UnvF)

16 Why can't I seem to get used in more limericks?

Posted by: Narragansett at May 23, 2026 11:31 AM (2Ez/1)

17 I posted in the previous thread I would go out with my Dad on memorial weekend and Memorial Day to clean and put flags at the various military cemeteries and to have official services as part of what he did as Commander of a VFW post. Somber time but I enjoyed being with my Dad and his fellow veterans immensely.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:31 AM (qrzX6)

18 The bloodiest day in American history was September 17, 1862, the Civil War Battle of Antietam. It was significant because it ended Robert E. Lee's first invasion of the north and it provided Lincoln with enough credibility to issue the Emancipation Proclamation. One wonders if it was the hand of God that reaped the human harvest in the cornfield, in the sunken road, and at Burnside Bridge. If the Union had decisively defeated the Confederates, as they should have given their overwhelming superiority in numbers and their incredible intelligence given their finding of Lee's battle plans, the war may well have ended with a Union victory but with slavery still in existence in the South. If, as nearly happened, Lee had crushed the Union, the war may have ended in a Confederate victory with slavery still in existence in an independent South. It was only the bloody stalemate that allowed the Emancipation Proclamation and the end of slavery.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 11:31 AM (ndZc7)

19 40,000 plus evacuation in garden grove, tank of chemicals burning, "will either spill or explode".

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 11:31 AM (Kt19C)

20 Because you don't rhyme with "bucket."

Posted by: Duh at May 23, 2026 11:33 AM (2Ez/1)

21 FenelonSpoke, I was kinda willowed on the last thread but thought you might like the looks of spray-painted allium...

A while back I painted some dried allium and KT was kind enough to post a photo on the garden thread...
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=407009

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 23, 2026 11:34 AM (/enuJ)

22 >>That sounds fantastic, JackStraw!

It really is. This little town is like Mayberry plopped down in the middle of "progress". I love it and the older I get the more I appreciate it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

23 Why can't I seem to get used in more limericks?
Posted by: Narragansett at May 23, 2026 11:31 AM (2Ez/1)

I'm sure you could fit garrett in there with you.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:35 AM (qrzX6)

24 " The bloodiest day in American history was September 17, 1862, the Civil War Battle of Antietam."

++++++++

It's a VERY sobering place to visit.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 11:35 AM (2Ez/1)

25 40,000 plus evacuation in garden grove, tank of chemicals burning, "will either spill or explode".
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 11:31 AM (Kt19C)

Chinese are pointing at us like we point at them.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:36 AM (qrzX6)

26 LIBs. Give them CONVENIENCE (and a cell phone) or give them DEATH

LIB Strategic Insanity perpetuates itself that Pity for the Guilty is anything but Treason to the Innocent. that any compromise between food and poison can result in anything but Death.

This is their crusade, their inexorable march, where they breach the nobility and sovereignty of Evil as an inevitability while ignoring the obvious fact that the only Common Ground that exists for them is to put you in it.

LIBs live in FEAR for having abandoned their only means of survival -- their productive mind, and GUILT for knowing they have done so willingly and when faced with the inevitable realization that Life does have Meaning, Good Ideas do replace the bad, they lack the remaining intellectual fortitude, and, indeed, integrity to admit their faults, to throw open the window of their homeless/tent-city and admit: MAD AS HELL AND NOT GONNA LIB ANY MORE with the realization that their own leadership has lied to them and cheated them out of a future worth having.

They use pity as a weapon, and pity for themselves as a weapon -- and this is why Memorial Day is meaningly as immemorialness is a testament to their own failure

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at May 23, 2026 11:39 AM (EhMju)

27 The Trump 'doo. Everybody's doing it!

https://tinyurl.com/y8bx6v7h

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 11:41 AM (ndZc7)

28 FWIW, that source got the XYZ affair in reverse.
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I think that picture of Adams is reversed, too. I believe that is the earliest known photograph of any living president, though he was long out of office. Called a Daugerretype. The internet likes to reverse things, apparently.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 11:48 AM (IDQSL)

29 There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Astronomers just discovered a "hidden route" to the moon after running hundreds of thousands of simulations

https://tinyurl.com/yyembb5c

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I thought there was only one way. You know, up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)

30 So sorry. Wrong link for the Vets and table link. This is correct:

https://tinyurl.com/4k2rxjz6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 11:49 AM (n3VHW)

31 Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 23, 2026 11:34 AM (/enuJ)

That's lovely. Thanks so much for reposting it

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 11:51 AM (n3VHW)

32 40,000 plus evacuation in garden grove, tank of chemicals burning, "will either spill or explode".
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2026 11:31 AM (Kt19C)
++++
Chinese are pointing at us like we point at them.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg
====
In terms of the acute toxicity of methyl methacrylate, the LD50 is 7–10 g/kg (oral, rat). It is an irritant to the eyes and can cause redness and pain.[17][18] Irritation of the skin, eye, and nasal cavity has been observed in rodents and rabbits exposed to relatively high concentrations of methyl methacrylate. Methyl methacrylate is a mild skin irritant in humans and has the potential to induce skin sensitization in susceptible individuals.
- WIKI

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 11:51 AM (/lPRQ)

33 Wishing a Sad Memorial Day to all.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 11:52 AM (u/oMr)

34 @118

I'm working on an online book -- 100 Americans Who Should Be Famous (But Aren't).

One is Robert Smalls who has small fame in Charleston SC. In 1861, he was a slave who stole a ship he worked on to free himself, the black crew, and their families, while the white crew were carousing on a Saturday night.

He then gave the Planter to the Union Navy and met Lincoln. Later, Lincoln let Blacks join the Union Army and issued the Proclamation.

What's too often left out of his story is that he could have just left with his prize money from the Planter but instead volunteered to be a pilot for the US Navy as he knew Charleston harbor so well. Had he been captured you can only imagine. This is the man Lincoln met.

He later used his prize money to buy the plantation where he'd been a slave and served in the US Congress.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2026 11:53 AM (dtajH)

35 13 The Park will be covered with 100 American flags that previously covered the caskets of fallen heroes and donated for use by their families.

I'll be there, rain or shine.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 11:26 AM (viF8m)

Wow! Excellent.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 11:53 AM (6wpGE)

36
Astronomers just discovered a "hidden route" to the moon after running hundreds of thousands of simulations

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But first, you must answer three questions.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at May 23, 2026 11:54 AM (u/oMr)

37 The first thing I picked up when reading Bruce Catton about the Civil War, it was expected to be a very short war. All the denizens of DC and surrounding environs decided to watch the first battle at Bull Run, and make a picnic out of it. Kind of a short carriage ride. Well that battle didn’t turn out the way the experts predicted. The Rebels routed the Yankees, and chased all the dandies back from whence they came.

But, surely the boys will be home by Christmas. And that didn’t happen. And them the war stretched into 1862. Well, it will be over by Summer for certain. Surely by Christmas. And then 1863 … 1864… etc. And it probably didn’t need to last 4 years, not even close. But that’s how it turned out.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 11:55 AM (IDQSL)

38 Astronomers just discovered a "hidden route" to the moon after running hundreds of thousands of simulations
+++++++

Come join us Wednesday night at 7pm. We meet at The Elks Lodge.

Posted by: The Flat Moon Society at May 23, 2026 11:57 AM (2Ez/1)

39 I hope to plan a trip to Gettysburg next month and visit my sister and go to the battlefield, haven't been their in close to 30 years

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 11:59 AM (Ia/+0)

40 I thought Memorial Day was to honor matters sales and Chevy Truck sales.

Posted by: Heroq at May 23, 2026 12:02 PM (ps+Pv)

41 Sometimes you can find fortitude and steadfastness in the smallest of places.
I recall one miserable night during a dust storm at the Yakima Training Area (part of the Ft Lewis Army complex) when the landline wire between my CP and one of my platoons went out. I had to do my rounds anyway, so I walked the line. Out there in the dark, sitting on the ground with his back to the wind, I found Private Washington. He was a big 'ol country dude from Louisiana. He was splicing the wire together.
"How's it going?" I asked.
"No problem, sir. I'll have the wire fixed in no time."
He did and it never failed again.
That was mumbly-mumbly years ago and I have never forgotten it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2026 12:03 PM (2WIwB)

42 >>One is Robert Smalls who has small fame in Charleston SC.

You, of course, know that the Navy renamed the USS Chancellorsville after Smalls.

A friend of mine was the second commanding officer of the Chancellorsville. He wasn't pleased when the Navy renamed "his" ship.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 12:04 PM (J4Dwc)

43 A worm hole to the moon, what could go wrong?

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 12:05 PM (Ia/+0)

44 This movie is on point and might be good.

https://tinyurl.com/344e929m

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 12:06 PM (ndZc7)

45 AW I will definitely go see that

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 12:10 PM (Ia/+0)

46 @42 I didn't know that. It appears the renaming was primarly to purge references to all things Confederate.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2026 12:11 PM (dtajH)

47 I think we are a little short on transcendent fortitude and steadfastness.

Well, you won't find any of that stuff here!

Posted by: GOPe Caucus at May 23, 2026 12:15 PM (1Ff7Z)

48 >>>Was not ready for Eric Church to deliver the best commencement speech I’ve ever heard.

That was great!

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 12:18 PM (6wpGE)

49 >>>It appears the renaming was primarly to purge references to all things Confederate.

Correct.

A few weeks ago, I asked my buddy, the former CO of the Chancellorsville, how he felt about the ship being renamed. He rolled his eyes and said, "fucking Democrats..."

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 12:19 PM (J4Dwc)

50 >>>Tip: Don't mention Artificial Intelligence in such an address.

I don't think he did? He mentioned the Internet.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 12:19 PM (6wpGE)

51 It appears the renaming was primarly to purge references to all things Confederate.

The 2020 purges were stupid and pointless, even if the new names were sometimes those of deserving people. The recent rush to erase Cesar Chavez after he was posthumously MeToo'ed was pretty funny though.

Can't wait until it's proven that Obama is who everyone with a brain thinks he is and the rush to erase him starts. It'll be even better if he's still alive to see it.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 23, 2026 12:20 PM (QZThv)

52 47 I think we are a little short on transcendent fortitude and steadfastness.

Well, you won't find any of that stuff here!
Posted by: GOPe Caucus at May 23, 2026 12:15 PM
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But we're overstocked on dithering, hand-wringing, consternation, and disquietude.

Everything must go!

Posted by: GOPe White Sale at May 23, 2026 12:21 PM (2Ez/1)

53 50 >>>Tip: Don't mention Artificial Intelligence in such an address.

I don't think he did? He mentioned the Internet.
Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 12:19 PM (6wpGE)

... and social media.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 12:21 PM (6wpGE)

54
Best of Breed for The Big Dummy at today's Grand Rapids KC show, defeating 27, which is a nice chunk of change. Now on to the Midwest Borzoi Club specialty.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 12:23 PM (HdYcL)

55 > It appears the renaming was primarly to purge references to all things Confederate.
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I saw where some of the Confederate statues that were removed are coming back. For now. If/when the Democrats regain power they'll probably remove and destroy them so they can't be replaced.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 12:23 PM (jehhT)

56 I don't think he did? He mentioned the Internet.

That was a joke/reference to several other recent commencement speeches where the students booed AI.

The lefty-industrial complex has stood up two minutes hate against AI at a speed that Just Stop Oil would envy. It's already at the point that "hates AI" usually accompanies "Palestinian and trans flags in bio".

Posted by: Ian S. at May 23, 2026 12:24 PM (QZThv)

57 I tended to the family plot this week, the local boy scouts had done their thing and flags were fluttering at many of the gravesites. I have a female ancestor who was given the middle name Lafayette as she was born during his visit back to America. A nearby Veteran's Post has a lovely ceremony every Memorial Day and I shall attend it regardless of the gloomy forecast.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 23, 2026 12:24 PM (0nHVk)

58
Being a scoundrel with the morals of an alleycat proved to be very useful for a Foreign Affairs Minister.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:14 AM (E4rtv)

_________

Napoleon described him as "shit in a silk stocking."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 12:25 PM (HdYcL)

59 Dinosaurs are real!

https://tinyurl.com/yy5paxsf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 12:28 PM (ndZc7)

60
Joseph Fouché and the Abbé Sieyès were two others who managed to slither through every change of regime between 1789 and 1815.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 12:28 PM (HdYcL)

61 The Hall of Fame for Great Americans was once a big deal. An outdoor pavilion in The Bronx with bronze busts, now on the campus of Bronx Community College.

For a hundred years Grant faced Lee. Until Andy Cuomo had Lee decapitated.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2026 12:29 PM (dtajH)

62 The Park will be covered with 100 American flags that previously covered the caskets of fallen heroes and donated for use by their families.

I'll be there, rain or shine.
Posted by: JackStraw

That is outstanding!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 23, 2026 12:29 PM (oyck1)

63 I thought there was only one way. You know, up.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)

Not so fast....

https://tinyurl.com/mr25mm9k

Posted by: GOPe Caucus at May 23, 2026 12:31 PM (1Ff7Z)

64 Thanks for posting that commencement speech, KT. I started to watch it and got interrupted and then couldn't find it again.

Posted by: Emmie at May 23, 2026 12:32 PM (FMtrg)

65 He later used his prize money to buy the plantation where he'd been a slave and served in the US Congress.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 23, 2026 11:53 AM (dtajH)

Ha Ha! He beat those stoopid repukelicans!

Posted by: Modern leftists at May 23, 2026 12:33 PM (1Ff7Z)

66 On this weekend in my little town, we honor all of our area's war dead. Dogfaces, swabbies, jarheads, Johnny Rebs, Bluebellies, zoomies, coasties.

The Memorial Roll on the courthouse lawn has multi generations with the same last names listed over and over. And no one raises an eyebrow with the Stars and Bars next to Old Glory.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 12:36 PM (vhPr1)

67
I've read 1, 2, 4, 6, and 9-12 on Nixon's list.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 12:37 PM (HdYcL)

68 FoxNews....May be news on Iran later this weekend.

Schrödinger's Peace Deal...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. at May 23, 2026 12:40 PM (Sco7b)

69 49 >>>It appears the renaming was primarly to purge references to all things Confederate.

Correct.

A few weeks ago, I asked my buddy, the former CO of the Chancellorsville, how he felt about the ship being renamed. He rolled his eyes and said, "fucking Democrats..."

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 12:19 PM (J4Dwc)


If Democrats insist all things slavery and Confederate must be abolished or renamed, when do the Democrats abolish or rename their own political party?

Posted by: Gref at May 23, 2026 12:44 PM (5rh/l)

70 56 I don't think he did? He mentioned the Internet.

That was a joke/reference to several other recent commencement speeches where the students booed AI.

The lefty-industrial complex has stood up two minutes hate against AI at a speed that Just Stop Oil would envy. It's already at the point that "hates AI" usually accompanies "Palestinian and trans flags in bio".
Posted by: Ian S. at May 23, 2026 12:24 PM (QZThv)

Thank you!

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 12:46 PM (6wpGE)

71 > If Democrats insist all things slavery and Confederate must be abolished or renamed, when do the Democrats abolish or rename their own political party?
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With the help of the MSM, academia and the general public's overall pliability, they've convinced most Americans that slavery and all that came from it, is the fault of the Republicans and Trump.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 12:48 PM (jehhT)

72 On July 4, 1917, General John J. Pershing, commander of the newly-arrived American Expeditionary Force in Europe, made a special pilgrimage to a small cemetery on the outskirts of Paris.

There the General and his staff stopped beside a simple grave. It was Pershing’s aide, Colonel Charles E. Stanton, who spoke: ” It is with loving pride we drape the colors in tribute of respect to this citizen of your great republic.

And here and now in the presence of the illustrious dead we pledge our hearts and our honor in carrying this war to a successful issue.

"Lafayette, we are here!”

I think the French were a bit puzzled by American Lafayette reverence.

Posted by: 13times at May 23, 2026 12:50 PM (gzplO)

73 Hey! Stupid regressives need to get off the anti AI kick. AI should be opposed by the right, its basically part of the whole globalist corporate socialist agenda

Posted by: Azjaeger at May 23, 2026 12:51 PM (Gdxd4)

74 The lefty-industrial complex has stood up two minutes hate against AI at a speed that Just Stop Oil would envy. It's already at the point that "hates AI" usually accompanies "Palestinian and trans flags in bio".
Posted by: Ian S. at May 23, 2026 12:24 PM (QZThv)

Thank you!
Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 12:46 PM (6wpGE)

It is an odd one. The Left 'people' have decided it's bad, while all the left companies are going all in on it. So you have artists and musicians (usually really bad ones) who hate the idea. Game reviewers, writers, etc etc.

I would also assume by contrast that the technocrats and the VHE crowd would LOVE the concept of AI.

It's kind of remarkable watching this how people react.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 23, 2026 12:51 PM (bss/y)

75 My comfort seeking habits have made me increasingly mentally weak. Recently I have taken baby steps to get out of my comfort zone. I think this is really a trap of getting older that is best avoided.

Posted by: Max Power at May 23, 2026 12:54 PM (q177U)

76 My radio station is playing John Williams' "Hymn to the Fallen" right now. Always get choked up when I hear it. Very moving piece of music.

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 12:55 PM (lJ0H4)

77 I thought Grant's memoirs were very good.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 23, 2026 12:59 PM (3uBP9)

78 That Nixon list includes many of the items that were once in Harvards reading list. Who knows what they have now, or even have a list.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 23, 2026 01:00 PM (3uBP9)

79 Morning, KT and Horde. Got an early start today. Up on the roof at 0700, had the three rotten sheets of plywood decking off by 0800. All went well. Off the roof, into the shower, and off to Hacker's Grill for brekkie. Got a haircut, too. Saw a couple of nifty hot rods at Hacker's, and chatted with the owners for a few minutes.

Town of AJ is real quiet this morning. Scarcely any traffic. Most of the snowbirds have gone home, and I think many of the locals have taken off for the long weekend. Weather is great, with temps in the low 90's, unseasonably cool for here. We'll take it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2026 01:06 PM (8zz6B)

80

The Intolerable Acts, sometimes referred to as the Insufferable Acts or Coercive Acts, were a series of five punitive laws passed by the British Parliament in 1774 after the Boston Tea Party.

The very bad acts!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 01:06 PM (Cqx++)

81 Huh, only read 2 of Nixon's suggestions

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 01:06 PM (Ia/+0)

82
I'll be at the ceremony at Soledad in San Diego as usual.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 23, 2026 01:08 PM (n7rxJ)

83
AI should be opposed by the right, its basically part of the whole globalist corporate socialist agenda
Posted by: Azjaeger


I've been told that the anti-AI movement is financed by China so that they will rule the AI wave.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 01:09 PM (Cqx++)

84 Wow!

KT, thanks for including that Eric Church commencement speech. The man is wasting his time with music. (Just kidding.) He should be giving motivational speeches about what is important in life. If Lewis or Chesterton had been musical, they might have written it.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2026 01:09 PM (yTvNw)

85 It's interesting to do a search for 'Lafayette statue images'. Many, many of them. Take a look.

But, meh, dead white man.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2026 01:12 PM (XeU6L)

86 That Nixon list includes many of the items that were once in Harvards reading list. Who knows what they have now, or even have a list.

1) Tushy Bidets...The Joys Of Anal Sex
2) Fidel Castro & Nelson Mandela...How Far We Slaves Have Come
3) Huey P. Newton...Kill Whitey!
4) Mariann Edgar Budde...Lesbianism, The Church And You
5) Dr. Renee Richards...Second Serve, Or How I Chopped Of My Weiner

Posted by: Harvard's Reading List 2026 Top 5 at May 23, 2026 01:13 PM (35YvA)

87 'Lafayette statue images'. Many, many of them. Take a look.
But, meh, dead white man.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


French. Doesn't count.

Posted by: they start at Calais at May 23, 2026 01:13 PM (gKWVE)

88 So rumors of wars, and rumors of rumors abound in Washington today, but no one knows if anything will actually happen. It would be nice if something good did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 01:14 PM (U0opd)

89 'Lafayette statue images'. Many, many of them. Take a look.
But, meh, dead white man.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

French. Doesn't count.
Posted by: they start at Calais

Are the French white people? Well, yes but . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 23, 2026 01:20 PM (jjUeA)

90 A year ago today, I was with my best friend when he died. 11 years ago this coming Monday, my father died. It's a memorial weekend. And in a few minutes, I'm returning to writing a brief about the death of a dearly-loved pet.

Posted by: Dark Lixtiquatal at May 23, 2026 01:20 PM (W5mpo)

91 Hard to point to which podcast heard lately, one had quite a bit of Lafayette's biography, he was quite a character in a good way.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 01:22 PM (Ia/+0)

92 So, Kyle Busch died of sepsis brought on by severe pneumonia.

Jim Hensen died the same way.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 01:22 PM (qFwJc)

93
FoxNews....May be news on Iran later this weekend.

Schrödinger's Peace Deal...

Posted by: Stateless

=============

Just kill it, Mr. President.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 23, 2026 01:25 PM (n7rxJ)

94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYI3eegIJlI

I miss my Dad, My Uncles now all gone. I miss Timmy, gone at 19

I escorted Tom's body home in 1991.....his 4 year old daughter asking "why is my daddy in a box and why can't I see him

I will never forget.......I will never forgive

Soon Communists. Very Soon!

Posted by: Bullet for her Bra at May 23, 2026 01:25 PM (jrgJz)

95 Was just going to bring up Kyle Bush death, seems bizarre thing to happen but guess it does

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 01:26 PM (Ia/+0)

96 > So, Kyle Busch died of sepsis brought on by severe pneumonia.
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Tragic. And preventable. But some people are stubborn and either don't take symptoms seriously or ignore them.

I can totally relate.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 01:26 PM (jehhT)

97 FoxNews....May be news on Iran later this weekend.

Schrödinger's Peace Deal...

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog.

Dead cat bounce?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 23, 2026 01:27 PM (jjUeA)

98
Well, one absent thing we can commemorate with no sadness: the Colbert show.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 23, 2026 01:27 PM (n7rxJ)

99 FWIW:

@nicksortor
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38m
🚨 BREAKING: Vice President JD Vance has made an UNPLANNED RETURN to Washington, DC, and his motorcade is racing to the White House

President Trump has summoned his whole national security team to a meeting on Iran.

POTUS is also scheduled to hold a conference call at 1pm ET

Posted by: Don Black at May 23, 2026 01:29 PM (ZxPkt)

100 🚨 BREAKING: Vice President JD Vance has made an UNPLANNED RETURN to Washington, DC, and his motorcade is racing to the White House

President Trump has summoned his whole national security team to a meeting on Iran.

POTUS is also scheduled to hold a conference call at 1pm ET
Posted by: Don Black at May 23, 2026 01:29 PM (ZxPkt)


Lat "rumor " I read was that they were close to some sort of "deal".. We all know how trust worthy Iran is with a deal...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 23, 2026 01:31 PM (irNtJ)

101 Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran....

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 01:33 PM (qFwJc)

102 101 Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran....
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 01:33 PM (qFwJc)

--John McCain

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 01:36 PM (6wpGE)

103 Trump does have a deal fetish.

Sucks to be an Iranian.

Posted by: Don Black at May 23, 2026 01:36 PM (ZxPkt)

104
Trump does have a deal fetish.

But wait!

NOW how much will you pay?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2026 01:38 PM (Cqx++)

105 92 So, Kyle Busch died of sepsis brought on by severe pneumonia.

Jim Hensen died the same way.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 01:22 PM (qFwJc)

How in the world.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 01:44 PM (6wpGE)

106 I have $20 for anyone who's never had carnal knowledge of a goat!
-Monty

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 01:45 PM (IifvS)

107 Why does Iran have anything that can float or fly is what I want to know because by this time they shouldn't.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 01:45 PM (Ia/+0)

108 Anyone?
-Monty

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 01:45 PM (IifvS)

109 108 Anyone?
-Monty
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 01:45 PM (IifvS)

But wait!

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 01:47 PM (6wpGE)

110 Trump reportedly had a teleconference with several Middle Eastern movers and shakers earlier. Maybe there's a "deal" to be made with them with regards to Iran/IRGC?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 01:51 PM (jehhT)

111 Some Memorial Day Music

https://youtu.be/Omd9_FJnerY

https://youtu.be/0FT3SmZ_zx0

https://youtu.be/rJO7lJIxG10

https://youtu.be/awsmXerhLqQ


Crosses the line between Veteran's Day and Memorial Day

https://youtu.be/h_OyFoxp_uo


And two early clips for the Fourth!

https://youtu.be/2HGHdFmu5GU

https://youtu.be/yAqNe-m0a8s

I think all of these are suitable for work in the US. If they aren't, I don't know if I'd want to work there.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 01:51 PM (qx7Zg)

112 I want PDT to come out and say "It's time to stop pussyfooting around" and watch the lefty nitwits blow up.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 01:51 PM (vFG9F)

113 Lat "rumor " I read was that they were close to some sort of "deal".. We all know how trust worthy Iran is with a deal...
Posted by: It's me donna
----

Trump skipped his son's wedding. It may be a big dead but I don't think it's a deal deal.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 01:51 PM (LJVs0)

114 I'm having some of King Harv's planet series coffee. Pluto, which is supposed to be for cold brew which is what I did. I basically just used a big iced tea infuser pitcher but put course ground pluto in it over night instead of tea. Not bad. Kind of smoky tasting.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 23, 2026 01:52 PM (3uBP9)

115 What a Memorial day presentation, precious.
K.T. thank you.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 01:52 PM (LJVs0)

116 Trump skipped his son's wedding. It may be a big dead but I don't think it's a deal deal.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 01:51 PM (LJVs0

Meh. I'll catch the next one.*
-DJT

*I denounce myself.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 23, 2026 01:52 PM (IifvS)

117
Good lord, gas explosion in a Chinese mine has killed 90, probably more.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 23, 2026 01:53 PM (n7rxJ)

118 It appears the renaming was primarly to purge references to all things Confederate.
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I saw where some of the Confederate statues that were removed are coming back. For now. If/when the Democrats regain power they'll probably remove and destroy them so they can't be replaced.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 12:23 PM (jehhT)



Americans - soldiers especially - immediately after the Civil War, showed far more honor and grace, even in victory as shown by Grant's honorable treatment of Lee during the surrender at Appomattox, having Joshua Chamberlain, with a guard of honor, salute the surrendering rebels. And if I'm not mistaken, they were allowed to keep their weapons.


The filthy communists at Chancellorsville were just on a destructive, provocative tear. Aided by the local officials, all the way up to that filthy governor McCaullife. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 23, 2026 01:53 PM (O2GRA)

119 Don't fuck around with strep or staph or pneumonia. At least see the quack and take all the antibiotics he assigns.
This has been a public service announcement.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 23, 2026 01:54 PM (gKWVE)

120 ...Lat "rumor " I read was that they were close to some sort of "deal".. We all know how trust worthy Iran is with a deal...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 23, 2026 01:31 PM (irNtJ)



Any deal with Iran is worthless unless it includes them renouncing Taqiyyah.


Which means fundamentally ending Islam. And that won't happen because even if they do, how do we know it ain't just more Taqiyyah? You can't make deals with people to whom lying is at the core of their essence. Just my opinion, again.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 23, 2026 01:57 PM (O2GRA)

121 Watertown, Wisconsin, is going to dedicate a permanent copy of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall on Monday.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 23, 2026 01:57 PM (qx7Zg)

122 A lot of chest colds caused by a virus, which the body deals with in about 3 days. During that time, however, nasty bacteria can get into the lungs and bingo! Pneumonia. Then the antibiotics are needed.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 01:59 PM (qFwJc)

123 GARDEN THREAD IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 02:00 PM (Ia/+0)

124 86 That Nixon list includes many of the items that were once in Harvards reading list. Who knows what they have now, or even have a list.

1) Tushy Bidets...The Joys Of Anal Sex
2) Fidel Castro & Nelson Mandela...How Far We Slaves Have Come
3) Huey P. Newton...Kill Whitey!
4) Mariann Edgar Budde...Lesbianism, The Church And You
5) Dr. Renee Richards...Second Serve, Or How I Chopped Of My Weiner
Posted by: Harvard's Reading List 2026 Top 5 at May 23, 2026 01:13 PM (35YvA)

You're probably not far off. Imagine Bill Clinton's list from the mid-90s. It would of course lean leftward, but would probably include some genuinely good reads. Now imagine Obama's and see the direction we've gone.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at May 23, 2026 02:18 PM (qivay)

125 KT … excellent way to remember the ones who didn't come home. Thank you. (hand salute)

Posted by: Dr_No at May 23, 2026 02:18 PM (ayRl+)

126 Watching March or Die with Gene Hackman
His mistake was giving the Arabs something they didn't care about, something from antiquity before Islam

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 02:19 PM (Ia/+0)

127 Thank you for bringing that inspirational and foundationally TRUE speech from Eric Church.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 23, 2026 02:21 PM (w6EFb)

128 >>> Trump skipped his son's wedding. It may be a big dead but I don't think it's a deal deal.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 01:51 PM (LJVs0)


He implied that his presence would bring more danger to everyone involved and he didn't want to do that.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 23, 2026 02:40 PM (3uBP9)

129 Thanks for a rollicking, chock full of learning, Memorial Day thread, KT!

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 02:53 PM (6wpGE)

130 If you're have trouble breathing and are coughing up big chunks of green slime go to the freaking hospital instead of fighting through it.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 03:20 PM (qrzX6)

131 For those of you who are interested, the US overflew and landed two Osprey V-22 at the US embasy in Caracas as part of an "emergency test" for evacuations from the Venezuelan capital with permission from the Venezuelan government.
Today was the second day of overflight, and apparently the first landing of US craft in Caracas since the capture of Nicolas Maduro

"This Saturday, the U.S. Embassy in Caracas released images of the moment when several aircraft landed at the diplomatic compound located in Valle Arriba, Caracas.

youtu.be/kSK1XviG43o

from X:

https://tinyurl.com/76649wk3

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2026 03:20 PM (rbvCR)

132 Osprey, McCain and K street's dream machine.
The men who fly those things must be top notch those machines are no easy flier.
Put congress in those things and do some touch and goes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 23, 2026 03:47 PM (LJVs0)

133 > Osprey, McCain and K street's dream machine.
The men who fly those things must be top notch those machines are no easy flier.
Put congress in those things and do some touch and goes.
------------
Several are part of the squadron? that supports the White House. Painted exactly the same as the current helicopter(s)... olive green with white trim. No clue if Trump's flown on one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 04:03 PM (jehhT)

The Classical Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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*****


Good morning boys and girls and everything in between from the streets of Manhattan. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few house keeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Iron River)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice. Don't be Pretti Good.
3) Running with sharp objects? You do the math there "Three Fingers".
4) Have a great weekend!!!

*****


AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer
requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

Prayer Requests:
3/28 – Hrothgar asked for prayers for a dear and long time close friend and former neighbor, Daniel,
who is scheduled for open heart surgery in mid-April. Prayers for his wife would be appreciated as well,
as she will be carrying a heavy load for the next few months.
4/18 Update – Daniel survived his complex open heart surgery. He is sitting up and it seems like it went
well, but they are not going to release him as quickly as he would like, so he is not happy. Thanks to the
Horde for the prayers and please keep praying for his dear wife, who now has even more to put up with.
5/16 Update – Hrothgar sends thanks for the prayers for Dan. Thanks to his attitude and the miracles
of modern heart surgery, Daniel is back home and in good spirits and mobile. He still has a lot of rehab
ahead, but it sounds like a pretty good recovery to be home only 20 days after being on the table!
3/28 – Jordan61 posted that Mr. Jordan61 is back in the hospital. His sepsis has returned and gotten into
where his compression fracture is, and he has vertebral osteomyelitis. The doctor is supposed to come
in today and let them know the plan.
4/9 Update – On 4/1 Mr. Jordan61 was released from the hospital with six weeks of IV antibiotics,
which Jordan61 is administering every 8 hours. He’s in a lot of pain; they’ve given him oxy, fentanyl, and
dilaudid, and nothing seems to touch it. From what they were told, the pain won’t subside until the
infection is cleared up. For the time being, he is bed-bound and they are limiting his movement as much
as possible to keep the pain to a minimum. Jordan61 will send updates with progress.
4/25 Update – Mr. Jordan61 is making slow but steady progress. He can get up and walk for short
periods of time, and can sit in the living room for an hour or so per day. He is halfway through the IV
antibiotics, with 3 weeks to go. A physical therapist will be coming to help him build strength and learn
how to move without aggravating his back injury. Thank you all for the prayers!
4/3 – Teresa in Fort Worth posted an update. Her chemo seems to be holding things steady for now.
Unfortunately, as she is receiving a steroid, she has gained about 25 pounds. Her blood sugar has also
jumped up about 40 points (which only happens when she is on steroids).
4/24 Update – Teresa in Fort Worth provided an update: The pump that was put in to battle cancer in
December can only be used for 6 months. After that, it starts to damage the liver. So she may have to go
back onto the medication that made her lose her hair and messed up her vision and nails, and then
return to this medication after a break. This is not good news, since this new medication is working so
well. But for now, she is doing well and is incredibly grateful for the time that she has been given so far.
4/11 – Eromero craves prayers for Mrs. E., as she has been diagnosed with lymphoma. She begins
infusions on 4/23.
4/25 Update – Mrs. E. reports that she feels fine. Praise be to God that she has had only one distressful
episode during the infusions. Thank you for all the past and continued prayers.
4/18 – neverenoughcaffiene asked that Devyn be kept in prayers. She is a young mother of 2 with a
mass on her esophagus. The Doc said it was scar tissue and hopefully the second opinion will agree.

5/16 Update – The doctor providing Devyn’s second opinion advised her to stay with the original
doctor. She will be having a biopsy sometime in the next week. Prayers are still needed.
4/18 – Smell the Glove could use some prayers as therapy and rehab occur after gout/sepsis.
5/2 Update – The gout has cleared and the infection in the lower back is healing.
5/18 Update – Smell the Glove may be out of rehab this week, but still would need wound care at
home. Thanks for all the prayers and well wishes!
4/18 – Sam Adams requested prayers for a friend, Mary F, who was just sent to a long-term recovery
facility after having a tracheostomy.
5/2 Update – Mary’s breathing is improving, and they are weaning her off assisted breathing. She is
now off the ventilator for 12 hours a day, and they are aiming for 14 hours soon. Many thanks to all of
the Moron Horde for the prayers.
4/24 – Notsothoreau asked for prayers for a friend’s father (Cory), who needs prayers for strength and
peace as he is going through some troubled times.
4/27 – Matthew Kant Cipher sent his thanks to those who prayed for his friend Layne (who is also his
son’s FIL). The Horde may recall that in August, Layne was diagnosed with bladder cancer. He has since
undergone courses of chemo, immunotherapy, and radiation. His latest scans came back clean. The
cancer is in remission; praise be to God! Prayers are also humbly requested for Mrs. MKC, who is dealing
with a new flare-up of a GI condition that had been leaving her alone until a recent procedure re-
aggravated it. It is very frustrating/discouraging as she waits to see a new GI doctor.
4/25 – Retired Buckeye Cop asked that we would continue to lift his 16 year old grandson (LH) up in
prayers, as LH continues to consider the call to priesthood in the Catholic Church. LH recently went to a
meeting with a group of young men who are considering the priesthood.
4/25 – Fenelon Spoke asked for prayers for “I”, who Fenelon visited and anointed with oil, and prayed
for healing of her health concerns.
5/2 – neverenoughcaffiene requested prayers for parishioners at her church, who lost their newborn
daughter, Astrid.
5/7 – turambar asked for prayers for relatives. Mom needs prayers as she was admitted to the hospital
to check her heart and cardio. They did not find pneumonia. Two months ago, she fell at her assisted
living place, and broke her hip. She also has dementia. Turambar’s uncle fell recently and broke his hip,
too.
5/9 – D asked for prayers. He was let go from his IT job and has started a business making and selling
lens cleaners to make ends meet. Please contact Annie’s Stew if you’d like more information – either to
order lens cleaners, or if you’d like to contact him related to IT job openings (DBA/Network Admin).
5/11 – rez986 asked if anyone had an update on Neidermeyer’s Dead Horse’s health. The last info
Annie’s Stew has was from January, 2026, that he’d been given 6 months to live due to heart failure and
was being treated and waiting for a transplant at Mayo.

5/16 Update – Dash my lace wings! posted that NDH is recovering well. IrishEi posted that NDH did
receive a heart transplant and that she is doing well. She also posted a link to NDH’s X account, and her
fundraising page.
5/15 – Toad-O requested prayers for his second ex-wife, the mother of his two children. They were
divorced 25 years ago, and 3 years later, she was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and the children came
to live with Toad-O. The ex-wife is now suffering from advanced Alzheimer’s, and has been living with
Toad-O’s daughter and her husband. The ex-wife fell last month and and cracked 2 vertebrae, and just
was taken to ER with a rapid heartbeat and low blood pressure due to dehydration. Prayers are
appreciated for her and also for the daughter who has sacrificed a lot to care for her.
5/16 – Anna Puma requested prayers for the family of Dan Fordice, who was killed when the aircraft he
was flying crashed. He leaves behind a wife, 3 children, and many friends. He was a Warbird flyer, a CEO,
and a veteran of the 2/20 th SFG.
5/16 – Tonypete asked for prayers for Jane who is dying of breast cancer, and for Cheri who is in jail
(again) for drug related crimes.
5/20 – D gave an update on his wife Susan, and her continued battle with cancer. Her cancer markers
are still headed in the right direction. She is on a new antibiotic, and it is causing some side effects, but it
is keeping her out of another surgery, so that is a win. Thanks again to everyone for their prayers. May 1
marked one year sine they found out about the cancer, and Susan is doing so well.
5/20 – E gave an update. She and her family were having financial struggles a few months ago, and
asked for prayers. E sends her thanks for the prayers, and wanted to let people know that things are
getting better, thanks to the Horde’s prayers and their church family. They have resolved their mortgage
issue and her husband has resumed his side gig making deliveries. They are also cutting monthly
expenses. They would like continued prayers as the deal with the insurance company of the person who
crashed into (and totaled) E’s vehicle. Insurance only offered half the replacement value, so that
struggle is still going on.
For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the
prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in
a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with
the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it
to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an
update.
2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but
not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:00 AM




Comments

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1 Prayers for all God's children.

Posted by: kingsman at May 23, 2026 07:29 AM (ehY6c)

2 Someone's been playing with the time machine again.

Current time: 07:29. Post time: 08:00

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 23, 2026 07:30 AM (O7YUW)

3 Time warp time.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 07:34 AM (jehhT)

4 Coffee! Yes!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 23, 2026 07:36 AM (VyBeY)

5 I put ghee in my coffee.
I'm a gheezer.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 07:37 AM (2Ez/1)

6 Morning, caffeinators,

I'm finishing up my morning pot (ca. 4 cups) of coffee. Time for me to shave and get otherwise cleaned up. Later, haircut, library, and dropping some stuff off at the thrift store out in the 'burbs. I hope I can get the errands done before it rains.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 07:38 AM (wzUl9)

7 Not on the list, but prayers for "I used to have a different nic" who is awaiting the result of a biopsy of a mass found on his prostate.

Posted by: Halfhand at May 23, 2026 07:38 AM (IXblq)

8 "...and dropping some stuff off at the thrift store out in the 'burbs."

The more the better. Everything you own owns you.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 07:40 AM (2Ez/1)

9 "The more the better. Everything you own owns you.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty"

*eyes stockpile of dryer lint*

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:40 AM (vFG9F)

10 - @1 Kingsland

And also, especially for those who aren't, at this point, yet!

Posted by: TeeJ at May 23, 2026 07:42 AM (eisI8)

11 *eyes stockpile of dryer lint*
_____
Let's not get too hasty here...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 07:42 AM (2Ez/1)

12 It's Early!!

Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:43 AM (GD0B3)

13 Armenian coffee...

Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:44 AM (GD0B3)

14 So , What up dogs!!

Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:44 AM (GD0B3)

15 WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:45 AM (GD0B3)

16 11 *eyes stockpile of dryer lint*
_____
Let's not get too hasty here...
_-_
Makes great firestarter for the wood stove. Waste not want not.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at May 23, 2026 07:47 AM (2gJPm)

17 Good morning again dear horde with thanks to annie, mh, and you morons for praying

{grammie}
Hiya JT

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:49 AM (RIvkX)

18 Good morning Horde,thx MisHum
A big thank you to the Horde for your prayers while I was in rehab for the infection I had. Came home yesterday and while I have to utilize a wound vac for a time it's good to be home

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 07:49 AM (flmKL)

19 Should be a huge travel weekend. I pray for safe journeys across the board. And please don't drive angry, you'll get there: Maybe NSFW due to F bomb

https://tinyurl.com/2vkdby5u

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 23, 2026 07:50 AM (w/O5Q)

20 "12 It's Early!!
Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:43 AM (GD0B3)

13 Armenian coffee...
Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:44 AM (GD0B3)

14 So , What up dogs!!
Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:44 AM (GD0B3)

15 WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 07:45 AM (GD0B3)"


Talk about hitting the ground running. I'll have what he's having.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:50 AM (vFG9F)

21 En mi casa toman Bustelo!

Posted by: Caffiend. at May 23, 2026 07:50 AM (oftw2)

22 Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need. The prayers really do work and reinforce the recipients in their recoveries

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 07:51 AM (flmKL)

23 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:52 AM (Ia/+0)

24 Dryer Lint Trivia: It does make an excellent firestarter as suggested in the morning report comments, but this is not what you want in your home. The ducting needs cleaning periodically. Not simply the lint-trap. I guess it’s a more common source of house fires. I would not run a clothes dryer and leave the house unattended.

(For making firestarter for Camping use from Lint, you want Lint made from cotton clothes. Synthetics don’t work to catch sparks very well)

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 07:53 AM (BWpBM)

25 Its a jump to the left
Then a step to the right
Put your hands on your hips

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:53 AM (Ia/+0)

26 Dear Morons,

A praise report. My prayer to become a grandad has been answered and by the will of hashem Girl F. will have a baby in December. She still plans to attend graduate school but will delay for a year. Which also means they will be depending on us for child care which pleases me to the nth degree!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX)

27 Prayers for all

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 07:55 AM (dE3DB)

28
Rain has pushed off and the dogs have been given the chance to go out. I held off earlier because Diana doesn't like flashes and booms, poor thing.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 07:56 AM (HdYcL)

29 Dreary day here in east, 50s and rain

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 07:57 AM (Ia/+0)

30 Rainy day
Too lazy to get up to brew coffee as that also means taking doggeh out

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 07:57 AM (dE3DB)

31 Good Saturday morning, horde!

Thanks be for this place where we can gather and pray for our friends, scattered as we are. Sometimes the internet is a wonderful thing.

Prayers have been said for all on the list, and the rest of you as well.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 23, 2026 07:58 AM (h7ZuX)

32 Is navel lint a good firestarter?

Posted by: Randy Senior Citizen at May 23, 2026 07:58 AM (oftw2)

33 @26: Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX
****
Congratulations San Franpsycho. Wishing the best, good health and much happiness to you and your entire family.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 23, 2026 07:59 AM (lsIOl)

34 My husband had a dryer lint fire, before we met. Took a year to rebuild the house.

On the other hand, there is a woman that "paints" using dryer lint. Pictures are amazing.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 23, 2026 07:59 AM (7T8ei)

35 Went for a walk with esteemed spouse. There was a robin sitting on the top of a holly tree. It looked like the bird equivalent of an angel on the top of a Christmas tree, and as we came back I saw a allium ( which I guess someone had picked and then thrown on the ground) 😕I picked it up and will bring it home. An allium is part of the onion family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 07:59 AM (m6Eem)

36 (For making firestarter for Camping use from Lint, you want Lint made from cotton clothes. Synthetics don’t work to catch sparks very well)
Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 07:53 AM
----
I have a small Ziploc bag of it with my camping stuff. A few magnesium shavings and a shower of sparks from the flint and Robert's your dad's brother. Boom.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 08:00 AM (2Ez/1)

37 Thank Rufus

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:00 AM (RIvkX)

38 I have been freaking out about my eyesight. My eye dr says I have myopic macular degrneration.Prayers appreciated.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 08:00 AM (dE3DB)

39 And here is a picture of an allium:

https://tinyurl.com/3wcmn9bz

If you are able to and the weather cooperates consider going for a walk today. It's very nurturing for your spirit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 08:02 AM (m6Eem)

40 33 @26: Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX
****
Congratulations San Franpsycho. Wishing the best, good health and much happiness to you and your entire family.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 23, 2026 07:59 AM (lsIOl)

Congrats from here, too!

Posted by: Nova Local at May 23, 2026 08:02 AM (tOcjL)

41 I have discovered that trying to learn to walk on a peg leg and drinking whiskey is not a good combination.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 23, 2026 08:02 AM (XV/Pl)

42 3 Rainy day
Too lazy to get up to brew coffee as that also means taking doggeh out

Posted by: vmom

====

Doggeh waits? Good doggeh!

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 23, 2026 08:02 AM (gpQ8/)

43
A note about the Borzoi breeder S., who was badly injured in an accident at a field event at our National. Her dogs have been transported from Omaha to their home in West Texas and are being taken care of.

She is still in the hospital and is likely to be there for at least four to six months. Her leg was broken above and below the knee, vertebrae in the neck and back were broken and she had internal bleeding and a severe concussion.

She's about our age and so her recovery is likely to be slow and incomplete.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:02 AM (HdYcL)

44 Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 08:00 AM (dE3DB)

Will pray for you, vmom.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 08:03 AM (m6Eem)

45 Wait, actually just called myopic degrneration

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 08:03 AM (dE3DB)

46 Devyn had her biopsy this week and she's waiting on the results. Continued prayers are appreciated.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 23, 2026 08:04 AM (2NHgQ)

47 SanFranpsycho, B'sha'ah tovah

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2026 08:04 AM (5P5DO)

48 "Went for a walk with esteemed spouse. There was a robin sitting on the top of a holly tree. It looked like the bird equivalent of an angel on the top of a Christmas tree..."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at 07:59 AM
++++++

Thoreau said "It's not what you look at. It's what you see."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 08:04 AM (2Ez/1)

49 Thank you nova

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:05 AM (RIvkX)

50 @39

>>If you are able to and the weather cooperates consider going for a walk today. It's very nurturing for your spirit.

Won't be walking proper for a while, but I will be rolling along side grandson today for the Veterans flag placement at the cemetery today.

Nothing better than watching a bunch of scouts scrambling around trying to outdue each other.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 23, 2026 08:05 AM (XV/Pl)

51 Thomas Bender but a skkll once mastered could be a great story

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 08:05 AM (Ia/+0)

52 vmom a prayer for complete and speedy healing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:08 AM (RIvkX)

53 San Fran. Woo hoo, congrats to girl F and your entire family. Good news for a change.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 23, 2026 08:08 AM (2NHgQ)

54 @51

>>Thomas Bender but a skkll once mastered could be a great story

Oh I am determined to master it, it's just I'm pretty bummed about being layed up.

And the full recovery time is nothing to sneeze at, it's a year give or take.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 23, 2026 08:08 AM (XV/Pl)

55 Thank you Ben Had that is very kind

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:09 AM (RIvkX)

56 I have a small Ziploc bag of it with my camping stuff. A few magnesium shavings and a shower of sparks from the flint and Robert's your dad's brother. Boom.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

A staple of air-cooled VW meetups has been throwing an old VW engine half on the bonfire at night. That much magnesium makes a bright, huge conflagration. Don't think anything will grow on the spot for a century.

Posted by: Cheep Thrills at May 23, 2026 08:09 AM (oftw2)

57 Thanks nec

My subtle campaign of threats and intimidation (and praying) worked!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:09 AM (RIvkX)

58 Yeah - the magnesium bar from Doan’s machining co. White hot when burning.

Before matches, getting your pipe going was a bit of a trick. “Fire steel” and a piece of flint. I imagine they got good at it, but it was a pain in wet & windy weather. I made a Bow Drill once, and decided although it works great I will never go out to the remote sticks without about 6 different ways to get a fire going.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:12 AM (z1t++)

59 An orchestral Zappa is a fine way to start the day.

Posted by: Zoot Allures! at May 23, 2026 08:12 AM (oftw2)

60 The Smithsonian kerfuffle reminds me of something. We need to defund the Smithsonian, and divest its relics to private collectors ( no bid for foreigners, US citizens only, nor may they be sold to one later).

Our America-hating government can't be trusted to safeguard our heritage. They hate it with their whole hearts. Scatter it among private collectors.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 23, 2026 08:13 AM (BI5O2)

61 Dear Morons,

A praise report. My prayer to become a grandad has been answered and by the will of hashem Girl F. will have a baby in December. She still plans to attend graduate school but will delay for a year. Which also means they will be depending on us for child care which pleases me to the nth degree!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX)

Congrats! Raise them right!

Posted by: runner at May 23, 2026 08:13 AM (GD0B3)

62 Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX)

Isn't that wonderful news! Prayers for your daughter and husband the growing baby!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 08:14 AM (n3VHW)

63 A praise report. My prayer to become a grandad has been answered and by the will of hashem Girl F. will have a baby in December.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX)

This is wonderful news! More babies, please!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 23, 2026 08:15 AM (h7ZuX)

64 I’ve a small oval brass tobacco box, reproduction of a design once made by the Hudson Bay co., nicely made, it has a glass magnifier in the lid. If it’s sunny at least, you will be able to light your pipe.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:15 AM (z1t++)

65 Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 23, 2026 08:05 AM (XV/Pl)

Sounds like a very special day. Enjoy yourself and your grandson and the other scouts.



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 08:16 AM (n3VHW)

66 Morning, Horde...How goes it?

I had an unusual encounter at Walmart this morning.

I met an old man who claimed to be the great grandson of Bushwhacker Bill Wilson, one of the inspirations for the Outlaw Josey Wales.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 08:16 AM (gnNyN)

67 "This is wonderful news! More babies, please!"
*******
Sorry. Full up right now.

Posted by: Little old lady shoe dweller at May 23, 2026 08:17 AM (2Ez/1)

68 Wow, Hadrian, glad the Borzoi lady is on the mend, but that's an immense amount of damage from a doggie collision. Sounds like a world of hurt. Will continue to pray for her recovery.

Posted by: Square One at May 23, 2026 08:20 AM (oftw2)

69 I recall a static display of the B-29 Enola Gay in the 1990s, I think that might have been through the Smithsonian and they effed it up. At that time both the crew and war veterans were still alive and raised a ruckus. That isn’t the case any longer. Revisionists are like termites on a house. There is certainly room for a balanced approach to history, different perspectives, but that isn’t what’s going on.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:20 AM (z1t++)

70 24, spot on! I will only run the dryer when at home.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 23, 2026 08:21 AM (VyBeY)

71 Thanks, Annie's Stew for collecting all the prayer requests , for MisHum for posting them and for all the people who pray. . Prayer is so important!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 08:22 AM (n3VHW)

72 Hey, all. Homelessness sucks. Overnight in car two nights, no sleeping. Next paycheck Friday. This is going to be rough. Pray for me. About ready to give up.

Poverty trap is real.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:22 AM (Jj3eo)

73 In one of the "bugout bags" I've got a set of ferro rods for starting fires. Didn't think about the dryer lint, but I think I'll start a stash in a baggie to add.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 08:23 AM (jehhT)

74 Thanks Fen, dash, runner

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:23 AM (RIvkX)

75 San Franpsycho, congrats to you and the family.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 23, 2026 08:23 AM (flmKL)

76 *eyes stockpile of dryer lint*
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:40 AM (vFG9F)
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Saving it for a rainy day?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 08:24 AM (gnNyN)

77 72 Hey, all. Homelessness sucks. Overnight in car two nights, no sleeping. Next paycheck Friday. This is going to be rough. Pray for me. About ready to give up.

Poverty trap is real.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:22 AM (Jj3eo)

Please stop by your nearest Catholic Church (at least if you are US)...ask for help.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 23, 2026 08:25 AM (tOcjL)

78 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.  As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, forever.  Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.  Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.  Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:25 AM (ZOv7s)

79 Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:22 AM

Do not give up! Is there anyone iin your community social services who can help?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 08:25 AM (n3VHW)

80 "...and dropping some stuff off at the thrift store out in the 'burbs."
*
The more the better. Everything you own owns you.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026


***
Earlier this year I got rid of an old CRT portable TV I'd bought in 2005 and hadn't used in almost that long. There are clothes I want to get rid of -- they still fit, but I'm tired of them -- and some books too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 08:27 AM (wzUl9)

81 "Saving it for a rainy day?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel"

According to the NY Post, I should never throw it away. I did not read further to find out why.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 08:27 AM (vFG9F)

82 Brother Tim thanks for checking in Imma chant Ps. 90 for you today

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:28 AM (RIvkX)

83 >>A note about the Borzoi breeder S., who was badly injured in an accident at a field event at our National.

Yikes! Hit by the dog during lure coursing?

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 08:28 AM (J4Dwc)

84 Thanks smell the glove.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:29 AM (RIvkX)

85 If you find vintage Ohio Blue Tips, prior to the 1980s say, those are nice. “Strike Anywhere” matches are still made, but they are No Bueno now.

Tough to beat a Zippo in wind. Clink-flick-Whump!!

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:29 AM (lQYPV)

86 Dreary day here in east, 50s and rain
Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026


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Just as dreary here: 80 or more, 100% humidity, drizzling off and on. The heat makes it tough to wear a hat and rain jacket, and an umbrella, even a compact one, is awkward to carry and easy to forget.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 08:30 AM (wzUl9)

87 Poverty trap is real.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:22 AM (Jj3eo)

Prayers for providence for you, Brother Tim. Whereabouts are you?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at May 23, 2026 08:33 AM (h7ZuX)

88 Poverty trap is real.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:22 AM (Jj3eo)

Please stop by your nearest Catholic Church (at least if you are US)...ask for help.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 23, 2026 08:25 AM (tOcjL)
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This is good advice. The churches should be open for daily Mass and you can take a nap on the pews without anyone having a problem with it and you will likely get offers of help, depending on the area.

One of the things I've learned since my wife started volunteering is that government assistance does NOTHING for poor people. It is all corrupt. All the grants, services, agencies, are just money laundering and rackets. Actual care is done by volunteers. Without church clothing drives and kitchens, the homeless would die and the government would just truck on.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:33 AM (ZOv7s)

89 44,000 people thrown out of their homes in L.A.due to a chemical leak

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:33 AM (RIvkX)

90 Fun fact: the entire budget for St. Vincent in the capital region is less than a mid-grade civil service salary. It's absurd.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:34 AM (ZOv7s)

91
Yikes! Hit by the dog during lure coursing?
Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 08:28 AM (J4Dwc)


Yes, full tilt. That's a 90 pound dog moving at 25 mph.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:35 AM (HdYcL)

92
The Big Dummy does battle twice today in Kalamazoo. Grand Rapids KC show and, concurrently, the Midwest Borzoi Club specialty. Outdoor ring and it's raining today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:38 AM (HdYcL)

93 Yes, full tilt. That's a 90 pound dog moving at 25 mph.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I have noticed there are no senior citizens in the NFL.

Posted by: Joan Lunden at May 23, 2026 08:39 AM (oftw2)

94 The Big Dummy does battle twice today in Kalamazoo. Grand Rapids KC show and, concurrently, the Midwest Borzoi Club specialty. Outdoor ring and it's raining today.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:38 AM (HdYcL)
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He has quite a busy schedule.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:40 AM (RIvkX)

95 The Big Dummy does battle twice today in Kalamazoo. Grand Rapids KC show and, concurrently, the Midwest Borzoi Club specialty. Outdoor ring and it's raining today.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:38 AM (HdYcL)
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Welcome to Michigan! Both sites are about an hour from here.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:40 AM (ZOv7s)

96 Congratulations to you and all, SFp1

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 23, 2026 08:41 AM (VyBeY)

97 Montgomery, Alabama. Resources here are overstretched to garbage and not great to start with. Having difficulty contacting church folks, the holiday weekend maybe?

Punchline is I'm close to a housing solution but...no money, and time is not with me here.

Sick and tired of patches and time mismatches. Had funds for month but my head was a mess post surgery and radiation...and if I had the lead I have now I'd be much better off!

I don't know what God's playing at. Hope it benefits someone because it sucks for me.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:42 AM (8wSX6)

98 " ... Without church clothing drives and kitchens, the homeless would die and the government would just truck on."

periodically pulling a gun on the suckers and demanding more money.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 23, 2026 08:43 AM (VyBeY)

99 >>The Big Dummy does battle twice today in Kalamazoo. Grand Rapids KC show and, concurrently, the Midwest Borzoi Club specialty. Outdoor ring and it's raining today.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:38 AM (HdYcL)

My class girl needs 4 points and a major to finish. Reserve BOW the last two days. Crap.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 08:43 AM (J4Dwc)

100 97 Montgomery, Alabama. Resources here are overstretched to garbage and not great to start with. Having difficulty contacting church folks, the holiday weekend maybe?

Punchline is I'm close to a housing solution but...no money, and time is not with me here.

Sick and tired of patches and time mismatches. Had funds for month but my head was a mess post surgery and radiation...and if I had the lead I have now I'd be much better off!

I don't know what God's playing at. Hope it benefits someone because it sucks for me.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:42 AM (8wSX6)

There are Saturday night vigils at all Catholic Churches, usually start between 5-6pm and end between 6-7pm. Go in, and wait for the end and talk to the priest or deacon (if their admin office isn't open) and ask for his help. They'll know how to get you help. You may want to wait til most folks are gone, just b/c they do tend to get mobbed right after Mass.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 23, 2026 08:45 AM (tOcjL)

101 Also: FUCK MY EMPLOYER. Boss thinks sticking someone at 12.33/hour for SIX DAMN YEARS in this economy is just peachy, apparently.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 08:45 AM (8wSX6)

102 Mornin’, All. Happy Saturday.

Oh, and BOOBS!

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2026 08:48 AM (77rzZ)

103
Welcome to Michigan! Both sites are about an hour from here.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:40 AM (ZOv7s)


Her Majesty was a Michigan resident for many years, mostly near Traverse City.

She's getting a distinctly chilly welcome from the Midwest people. As though to say, "Why are you here and not in Texas?" Ah, well. Some time ago when we lived in Ohio, we won the Rocky Mountain Borzoi Club specialty three years running. The Colorado people didn't want to see us in Denver after that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:48 AM (HdYcL)

104 You should have opened a Daycare Tim. Or Home Health Care. What’s wrong with you?

What’s your “Immigration Status”? Maybe a little “No Habla Inglis” would be helpful too.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:49 AM (Yr1lv)

105 There are Saturday night vigils at all Catholic Churches, usually start between 5-6pm and end between 6-7pm. Go in, and wait for the end and talk to the priest or deacon (if their admin office isn't open) and ask for his help. They'll know how to get you help. You may want to wait til most folks are gone, just b/c they do tend to get mobbed right after Mass.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 23, 2026 08:45 AM (tOcjL)
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This is good advice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:50 AM (ZOv7s)

106 Seeing reporting $300,000,000,000 in stock market value was wiped out in China yesterday.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:51 AM (RIvkX)

107 What’s your “Immigration Status”? Maybe a little “No Habla Inglis” would be helpful too.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:49 AM (Yr1lv)
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There are about 800 homeless people in the area, up from 500 a few years ago. During Covid, Biden flew in 500 Afghans, bought up a hotel to house them, and arranged for regular meals. The local homeless got nothing.

Tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:52 AM (ZOv7s)

108 Prayer up, Brother Tim.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2026 08:53 AM (77rzZ)

109 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 23, 2026 08:53 AM (u82oZ)

110 Seeing reporting $300,000,000,000 in stock market value was wiped out in China yesterday.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 08:51 AM (RIvkX)
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Earthquakes in China last week. Several tremors, 5.1, 5.0, 3.5. In a civilized country, it's nothing. In China with their crap building standards, whole apartment blocks came down. Government claims only a couple of people hurt.

Sure.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:53 AM (ZOv7s)

111 Glory to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women and blessed it the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

St. John Baptist de Rossi, since you could hear confessions through the Church, pray for us.

****

I have prayed Rosaries for the Horde's intentions, both stated and unstated.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 08:54 AM (ksbjf)

112 Prayers ascending for those good people in need, and for those with unstated needs known to God.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 23, 2026 08:54 AM (u82oZ)

113 Brother Tim, hold on and do as some suggestion looking for some help

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 08:54 AM (Ia/+0)

114 Almost time I got rolling. Hope the rain holds off. See ya on the Pet Thread, all!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 08:55 AM (wzUl9)

115 *Seeing reporting $300,000,000,000 in stock market value was wiped out in China yesterday.*
______

It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at May 23, 2026 08:56 AM (2Ez/1)

116 Someone's been playing with the time machine again.

Current time: 07:29. Post time: 08:00
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 23, 2026 07:30 AM (O7YUW)


There as disturbance in the Force. I posted a comment and then the Prayer Thread went "poof" and then it came back.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 08:56 AM (ksbjf)

117
Earthquakes in China last week. Several tremors, 5.1, 5.0, 3.5. In a civilized country, it's nothing. In China with their crap building standards, whole apartment blocks came down. Government claims only a couple of people hurt.

Sure.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:53 AM (ZOv7s)


The 50-Cent Army will tell you, "China infrastructure incredible! US awful."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:57 AM (HdYcL)

118 Dear Morons,

A praise report. My prayer to become a grandad has been answered and by the will of hashem Girl F. will have a baby in December. She still plans to attend graduate school but will delay for a year. Which also means they will be depending on us for child care which pleases me to the nth degree!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:54 AM (RIvkX)


Grandchildren are such a joy. I think that they're God's way of rewarding us for not selling our teenaged children to the traveling Gypsies.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 08:59 AM (ksbjf)

119 Have cawfee
Getting dog food ready

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 09:00 AM (gDlxJ)

120 The 50-Cent Army will tell you, "China infrastructure incredible! US awful."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 08:57 AM (HdYcL)
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Japanese commentary is particularly withering. "5.0? We don't even wake up for that. Doesn't even spill the coffee. A 7.0 will flatten your entire country."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:01 AM (ZOv7s)

121 San Franpsycho

Grandchildren are true wealth.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 23, 2026 09:01 AM (u82oZ)

122 Aaight. Going to try to hold on to evening Catholic mass and see what can be managed. Plus side, rain in the area is keeping temperatures down, and this Walmart parking lot isn't scenic but I don't get hassled.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 09:02 AM (8wSX6)

123 Congrats GranDad Franpsycho!
And thx for the prayers

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 09:02 AM (tcsrY)

124 So the Plantation Simulator game, where you have to whip your slaves to keep production up, but if you whip them too much they die, has updated:
Now all the slaves are white.

And it's getting review bombed for its lack of diversity and whitewashing history.

Lol

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 23, 2026 09:02 AM (73/SM)

125 119 Have cawfee
Getting dog food ready
Posted by: vmom deport deport
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Breakfast of champions.

Posted by: Purina Morning Chow at May 23, 2026 09:03 AM (2Ez/1)

126 What's it like to have an adult with autism?

This guy at RCP nails it.

https://tinyurl.com/4fht4h3c

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 09:03 AM (RIvkX)

127 Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I am highly amused when the Japanese dump on China and their QA standards. Glad they are on our side these days.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 23, 2026 09:04 AM (u82oZ)

128 122 Aaight. Going to try to hold on to evening Catholic mass and see what can be managed. Plus side, rain in the area is keeping temperatures down, and this Walmart parking lot isn't scenic but I don't get hassled.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 09:02 AM (8wSX6)

Good - keep us updated tonight on how they help and how you are!

Posted by: Nova Local at May 23, 2026 09:04 AM (tOcjL)

129 Thanks salty, vmom, and buckeye cop!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 09:06 AM (RIvkX)

130 Have a great day, everyone.

May blessings enfold you and hold you and yours safe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 23, 2026 09:06 AM (u82oZ)

131 One of the things I've learned since my wife started volunteering is that government assistance does NOTHING for poor people. It is all corrupt. All the grants, services, agencies, are just money laundering and rackets. Actual care is done by volunteers. Without church clothing drives and kitchens, the homeless would die and the government would just truck on.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:33 AM (ZOv7s)


As we've been learing [sic], the grift and fraud is the real purpose of all of these programs. If the objective was to really get money to the poor, the Democrats would be outraged by the fraud. But they're not, they're only angry that their game has been exposed.

There's so much money involved, politicians (in both parties) have been dipping their beaks, and regulators have been bribed to ignore the fraud.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:07 AM (ksbjf)

132 One LA Homeless program blew $400 M on 1400 people.

400000000/1400=285,714

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 09:08 AM (/+uur)

133 Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!

May God shower all of His beloved children with mercy and grace this day.

And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.

Happy Memorial Day weekend. Let us pause and give thanks for those who died so we could live in freedom.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 23, 2026 09:09 AM (D/6p1)

134 Brother Tim -- you still need to stay in your current area for your job, correct? Your job isn't remote-friendly?

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 09:10 AM (FMtrg)

135 Prayers for my Uncle Jeffs family.
He was buried on Tuesday.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 09:11 AM (/+uur)

136 I remember a 4.3 earthquake hit Dallas in 2013. Anti-drilling activists claimed that it proved Oil Production will Kill Us All, but the best meme came from someone who posted a picture of a sofa with a throw pillow on the floor next to it, captioned “Dallas Earthquake 2013 - We Shall Rebuild!”

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 09:11 AM (U0opd)

137 One LA Homeless program blew $400 M on 1400 people.

400000000/1400=285,714
++++
Dinner tonight?
Sure, what time?

Posted by: The French Laundry at May 23, 2026 09:11 AM (2Ez/1)

138 Happy Memorial Day weekend. Let us pause and give thanks for those who died so we could live in freedom.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 23, 2026 09:09 AM (D/6p1)

Since 1980, there have been over 63,670 active-duty military deaths. The majority of these deaths, about 84%, were due to accidents, illness, and suicide rather than combat.
Accidents: 29,948 deaths
Illness: 11,485 deaths

Soldiering and Sailing and Flying can be dangerous.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 09:14 AM (/+uur)

139 I am highly amused when the Japanese dump on China and their QA standards. Glad they are on our side these days.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
_______

The Chinese were shooting shells filled with sawdust at them in the Battle of the Yalu River back in 1894. They've got a lot of experience.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 23, 2026 09:15 AM (XvL8K)

140 As we've been learing [sic], the grift and fraud is the real purpose of all of these programs. If the objective was to really get money to the poor, the Democrats would be outraged by the fraud. But they're not, they're only angry that their game has been exposed.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:07 AM (ksbjf)
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There has been a major cultural shift within liberalism. On the one hand, they still chant about helping the poor, but they are remarkably indifferent as to whether it happens.

I think this is a result of Pelagianism becoming mainstream among the Democrats, aka Cheap Grace. Basically, their good intentions render them proof against any form of moral judgement, and they should suffer no consequences for failure because they meant well. This also renders them incapable of self-correction.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)

141 Earthquakes in China last week. Several tremors, 5.1, 5.0, 3.5. In a civilized country, it's nothing. In China with their crap building standards, whole apartment blocks came down. Government claims only a couple of people hurt.

Sure.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 08:53 AM (ZOv7s)


It's not just that everything is build of Chinesium over there. A number (how many I don't know) of Chinese engineers are actual frauds.

There was a Taiwanese kid in my cohort back when I was getting my Mechanical Engineering degree. He told us that there were students from Communist China that were not who they purported to be. Apparently the scam that the CCP played was that a smart peasant would get the degree in behalf of some CCP official's idiot kid.

Thus we see entire apartment buildings tipping over in the mud, and bridges falling off of their anchor-points.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:17 AM (ksbjf)

142 Happy Saturday!

Prayers for the horde.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2026 09:18 AM (X8xt3)

143 137 One LA Homeless program blew $400 M on 1400 people.

400000000/1400=285,714

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The performance of civic good is completely incidental to the primary goal of putting taxpayer money in the right pockets.

Gavin Newsom is the very face of this principle in CA.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 09:19 AM (u/oMr)

144 Soldiering and Sailing and Flying can be dangerous.
Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 09:14 AM (/+uur)
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This reminds me of the fake fiscal conservatives wringing their hands about the rate at which retired veterans collect disability. News flash: the military life breaks you down even if you never see combat. Of course, they're Super Patriots, they just prefer their social inferior to be barred from their gated communities.

For budgetary reasons, of course. And they will drag out office REMFs like Combat Lawyer David French who will point to his single enlistment (most of it spent in the schoolhouse), as authoritative.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:19 AM (ZOv7s)

145 >>One LA Homeless program blew $400 M on 1400 people.

400000000/1400=285,714



In another interview, Pratt said there was a program where an NGO was given about that much, used it to by a retirement home (and paid twice the price for the property = graft), then charged the government $400k per bed for a homeless person -- but never moved anyone in.

Literally free, unaccountable tens of millions!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2026 09:21 AM (X8xt3)

146 "He told us that there were students from Communist China that were not who they purported to be."
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Shocking.

Posted by: Claude Rains at May 23, 2026 09:21 AM (2Ez/1)

147 Thus we see entire apartment buildings tipping over in the mud, and bridges falling off of their anchor-points.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:17 AM (ksbjf)
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Yes, and I find it difficult to believe their martial culture and military leadership is any better. When essentially the entire general officer corps is vulnerable to bribery charges, it's an endemic problem.

I think there's a book about this...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)

148 The whole plan of Marxism is to break the system and replace it with their utopia. Giving massive funds to the useless does that

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 09:23 AM (Ia/+0)

149 as we came back I saw a allium ( which I guess someone had picked and then thrown on the ground) 😕I picked it up and will bring it home.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 07:59 AM (m6Eem)

Careful. Not all of them are legal...

(whistles to self while sauntering towards the exit..)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 23, 2026 09:23 AM (nbLIj)

150 > "government assistance"

If ever there was an oxymoron.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 09:24 AM (jehhT)

151 ...

the Democrats would be outraged by the fraud. But they're not, they're only angry that their game has been exposed.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:07 AM (ksbjf)
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There has been a major cultural shift within liberalism. On the one hand, they still chant about helping the poor, but they are remarkably indifferent as to whether it happens.

I think this is a result of Pelagianism becoming mainstream among the Democrats, aka Cheap Grace. Basically, their good intentions render them proof against any form of moral judgement, and they should suffer no consequences for failure because they meant well. This also renders them incapable of self-correction.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)


Perhaps some of the rank-and-file Dems have good intentions, but I doubt that Dem politicians are motivated by any other motives than obtaining power, money and sex.

You and I are in agreement in our evaluation of collectivism: It requires the commissions of the Sins of Pride, Wrath, Envy and Theft. Any feelings of agape' are completely missing.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:25 AM (ksbjf)

152 The ongoing US revival of military culture shows that wokeness/corruption must be *imposed* and that without it, the traditional martial virtues of the West will reassert themselves.

Raising standards actually increases interest. Young men long to go on quests, to be the hero - not Main Character, but actually accomplish something. I saw an anecdote on twitter that during a siege, Napoleon noted that one battery was in a vulnerable position, but it was crucial to his plan. Troops were shying away from serving there.

So he declared that battery could only be manned by men without fear. No one else would be permitted to serve there. That was it's formal name: Battery For Men Without Fear. It was immediately where all the crews wanted to serve.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)

153 I think this is a result of Pelagianism becoming mainstream among the Democrats, aka Cheap Grace. Basically, their good intentions render them proof against any form of moral judgement, and they should suffer no consequences for failure because they meant well. This also renders them incapable of self-correction.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)

The idea makes good sense, and also explains how the door was opened to absolute corruption at all levels of the Dem Party. Uniparty Republicans are just as bad in their own way, but at least Trump is trying to clean those Augean Stables. (Just look how Mad they are about Cornyn and Cassidy)

But the left is so bad that it’s now truly impossible for any decent or honest person to hold any party position of responsibility or leadership. I don’t care for Co. governor Polis, but at least he did an honorable and decent thing in freeing Tina Peters. It was an act of mercy and justice, yet he was immediately censured by his own party for doing it, and he will never hold another political office in that state.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 09:25 AM (U0opd)

154 I believe that it is just about impossible to Do Good with government money.
There are too many chances to do wrong, too many regulations and rules, and too many opportunities to become an extension of bad governing.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 09:25 AM (/+uur)

155 I think this is a result of Pelagianism becoming mainstream among the Democrats, aka Cheap Grace. Basically, their good intentions render them proof against any form of moral judgement, and they should suffer no consequences for failure because they meant well. This also renders them incapable of self-correction.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)
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They think their "good" intentions are sufficient without regard to actual outcomes. Their intentions are better than your intentions which are foul and evil. This also renders them good and you evil.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 09:26 AM (RIvkX)

156 Good morning, prayer warriors!

I just want to put the word out that we are looking for a replacement vehicle for the one that was totaled. We are looking for something cheap and reliable. We are accustomed to driving Toyotas well past 300k miles, for instance, so we aren't afraid of age and mileage in a vehicle like that.

Due to my husband's mobility, he needs something with a middle-range entry height, like a minivan or small pickup or small/medium SUV. It's difficult for him to lower himself into a sedan or climb up into a tall pickup. This will also be our tow vehicle for a 3,500 lb trailer.

We live in the mid-south and don't mind going to neighboring states for a good deal. So if anyone comes across a suitable candidate for us, will you let me know, please? The insurance company has offered $2600 for our totaled vehicle (about half of replacement cost). Thank you!

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 09:26 AM (FMtrg)

157 This also renders them incapable of self-correction.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)


To be fair, they do this only for the Common Good!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 09:27 AM (hOUT3)

158 Perhaps some of the rank-and-file Dems have good intentions, but I doubt that Dem politicians are motivated by any other motives than obtaining power, money and sex.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:25 AM (ksbjf)
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Current Dems politicians are wolves among the sheep. All of them are sexual perverts in some way. Their voters just want to feel good about themselves and are fighting the old ennui by imagining Nazis are everywhere and their heroic yard sign will keep them at bay.

Yeah, Marxism is just a Christian heresy perverting virtues into vices. That is why it always targets the Church.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

159 Prayers up for all that need them,

which last time I really looked was all of us!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 09:29 AM (hOUT3)

160 But the left is so bad that it’s now truly impossible for any decent or honest person to hold any party position of responsibility or leadership. I don’t care for Co. governor Polis, but at least he did an honorable and decent thing in freeing Tina Peters. It was an act of mercy and justice, yet he was immediately censured by his own party for doing it, and he will never hold another political office in that state.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 09:25 AM (U0opd)
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Yes, mercy for themselves, none for their enemies. They are wholly given over to wrath, and want to feel their enemies suffer. They are just convulsively lashing out, filling the void where God should be with hate and self-love.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:30 AM (ZOv7s)

161 Thus we see entire apartment buildings tipping over in the mud, and bridges falling off of their anchor-points.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:17 AM (ksbjf)
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Yes, and I find it difficult to believe their martial culture and military leadership is any better. When essentially the entire general officer corps is vulnerable to bribery charges, it's an endemic problem.

I think there's a book about this...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:21 AM (ZOv7s)


On top of that, their military hardware has been found to be lacking. While I'm certain that some of the failures of the Iranian HQ-9 SAMs were due to typical Arabian lack of maintenance of said hardware, the HQ-9 SAMs are samples of Chinese engineering and the U.S. military completely pantsed them within hours.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:31 AM (ksbjf)

162 Since it came up, I'm going to spin a crazy counterfactual about the Senate. Thune is a double agent. It's all an op. Thune knows his caucus is weak, and that he can't even get 50 votes for the Save Act.

He cannot admit this. So instead he keeps kicking the ball down the field, and in the process he's getting the squishes in his caucus fired by the primary voters.

But wait, there's more! He's also driving GOP voting enthusiasm to presidential year heights. Look at how many people are voting in the primaries. It's unprecedented for so many sitting senators to get whacked like this. Never ever happened before. The Save act is wildly popular, so why not base the election on it?

It's a fun thought.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:34 AM (ZOv7s)

163 Thank you Mis Hum and Annie's Stew.

Club size, No-Name Instant coffee with honey has never tasted this good, until tomorrow morning. It's cool and rainy. My friends' cat Snowflake was at my patio window at 6:30am. I dried her up.

Her and the dog Ralphy haven't been outside yet.

Time to read the thread and comments. Good morning everyone.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 23, 2026 09:35 AM (Sco7b)

164
Raising standards actually increases interest. Young men long to go on quests, to be the hero - not Main Character, but actually accomplish something. 

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In the naval battle off Cuba in the Spanish-American War, the plan was to sink a blockship to obstruct the Spanish leaving the harbor. The commander of the expedition signaled the US ships asking for volunteers for a suicide mission. The replies were along the lines of "Every man aboard wants to go" and "We can provide 300 men."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 09:35 AM (HdYcL)

165
It does make an excellent firestarter - a limerick

Said a young forest ranger named Clint
"Buying fire starters is money well-spent.
But it can be a little dicey
'Cause the storebought ones are pricey
So I decided to give them up for Lint!"

Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 09:36 AM (qgHp7)

166 On top of that, their military hardware has been found to be lacking. While I'm certain that some of the failures of the Iranian HQ-9 SAMs were due to typical Arabian lack of maintenance of said hardware, the HQ-9 SAMs are samples of Chinese engineering and the U.S. military completely pantsed them within hours.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:31 AM (ksbjf)
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Point of order: Iranians are Persian, not Arabs. Very different culture.

China's QC is indifferent at best. Export weapons are breaking wherever they are being used. Look up Thailand's defective tanks for more proof. Do the domestic models work better? No one knows.

It's pretty cool to see my Three Generations Problem be proven in real time. I thought it only applied to the military, but every aspect of mainland China's culture has been corrupted.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

167 Raising standards actually increases interest. Young men long to go on quests, to be the hero - not Main Character, but actually accomplish something. I saw an anecdote on twitter that during a siege, Napoleon noted that one battery was in a vulnerable position, but it was crucial to his plan. Troops were shying away from serving there.

So he declared that battery could only be manned by men without fear. No one else would be permitted to serve there. That was it's formal name: Battery For Men Without Fear. It was immediately where all the crews wanted to serve.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)


The Spanish "Blue Division" that Franco sent to the Russian front to fight with the Germans during WWII did something similar. They raised an assault infantry battalion within the Blue Division called the "Battalion of Death."

The Germans were actually quite impressed with the fighting ability of the Blue Division and gave them 5 or 6 Tiger tanks in 1942 -- the Tiger was brand-new and in short supply, even in the German military.

Of course, this allowed Franco to ship his most rabid anti-Communists trouble-makers to Russia.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:38 AM (ksbjf)

168 So I decided to give them up for Lint!"

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I hope this doesn't 'ignite' another 'flame war'.

Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 09:38 AM (qgHp7)

169 I called the state insurance commissioner and learned that my expectations for auto insurance were unrealistic. I thought drivers carried insurance so that they could make whole any damages they caused, so if an at-fault driver totaled our vehicle, his insurance would provide the funds to buy another of "like kind and quality." But no, the insurance only pays about what the vehicle is worth as a trade-in. Hint: you can't buy a car at its trade-in value price.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 09:40 AM (FMtrg)

170 162 Since it came up, I'm going to spin a crazy counterfactual about the Senate. Thune is a double agent. It's all an op. Thune knows his caucus is weak, and that he can't even get 50 votes for the Save Act.

..........
I was just reading this morning that here in SD his approval rating was 55% in March. Now it's at 28%. Not sure when he is up for reelection but hopefully by then it's at about 2% and we can boot his ass.

Posted by: Mollly k. at May 23, 2026 09:40 AM (j/yko)

171 Good morning. Prayers for all

I learned a new word here this morning (I often learn new things here): Pelagianism…. I looked it up; a denial of original sin. I read a little about it. Pelagius was not stupid but how anyone could look around and deny original sin boggles the mind.

He didn’t deny sin, mind you. He said humans could attain perfection with the help of God’s grace. He would’ve condemned today’s Dems as depraved as they excuse any and all sin (except for the sin of being MAGA or especially being Trump himself)… but his thinking truly was misguided. Heck, all I have to do is a little honest introspection and I immediately realize sin is pervasive!

Thanks for the intro to that new (to me) word

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 23, 2026 09:41 AM (26GAh)

172 It's a fun thought.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:34 AM (ZOv7s)

Thune is nowhere smart enough to develop such a strategy…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 23, 2026 09:43 AM (26GAh)

173 Congrats Sfp! Prayers for all.

Posted by: Mick at May 23, 2026 09:43 AM (HFx9z)

174 The DNI stepped down.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 23, 2026 09:43 AM (5kMf4)

175 On top of that, their military hardware has been found to be lacking. While I'm certain that some of the failures of the Iranian HQ-9 SAMs were due to typical Arabian lack of maintenance of said hardware, the HQ-9 SAMs are samples of Chinese engineering and the U.S. military completely pantsed them within hours.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:31 AM (ksbjf)
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Point of order: Iranians are Persian, not Arabs. Very different culture.
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)


Quite true, but haven't they essentially been conquered by Arabs? I suspect that those bad qualities have infected the Iranian military.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:43 AM (ksbjf)

176 The Spanish "Blue Division" that Franco sent to the Russian front to fight with the Germans during WWII did something similar. They raised an assault infantry battalion within the Blue Division called the "Battalion of Death."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:38 AM (ksbjf)
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Spain, you say? Another good topic for a book.

Franco was apolitical but shrewd. When the coup failed, he needed allies, the Phalange was right there. He also got the Carlists go join, and the Navarrese became his most elite units. The Blue Shirts ironically where were socialists trapped behind the line found cover ("A lot of Reds are buying blue shirts these days!") The same thing happened in Germany, btw, Reds became Brownshirts.

It wasn't the anti-communism that was the problem, it was the socialist element of Fascism. Franco was a pragmatist and didn't like ideologues. Hence his shift to technocrats to develop Spain.

Divison Azul was pretty hard core and Franco honored its veterans.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:44 AM (ZOv7s)

177 Quite true, but haven't they essentially been conquered by Arabs? I suspect that those bad qualities have infected the Iranian military.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:43 AM (ksbjf)
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They were conquered by Arabs, but that was ended a long time ago. There's a reason that their Islam is in opposition to the one common among Arabs. Persians are very, very nationalistic.

The current issue is the corruption of the mullahs and their SS goons.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:46 AM (ZOv7s)

178 Regarding the "morality" of the left, I have similar observations. We occasionally attend church with a leftist family member and the difference between atmospheres of our churches is stark. In our church, we contemplate how good God is and live in gratitude for His mercy. In her church, they all reassure and congratulate each other for being good people and shouldn't God be impressed with how much better they are than others!

It's depressing and it's also clear that our relative lives with a huge burden of performance pressure.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 09:48 AM (FMtrg)

179 FL 20 will be quite amusing.
A traditionally Black seat and the lady there was just sent packing dude to FEMA fraud.
So Wasserman Shultz is going to jump in and run for that seat as her old place will now be an (R) district.

Posted by: r hennigantx at May 23, 2026 09:48 AM (/+uur)

180 Congrats Granpsycho!

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 23, 2026 09:48 AM (0SdQT)

181 There was a Taiwanese kid in my cohort back when I was getting my Mechanical Engineering degree. He told us that there were students from Communist China that were not who they purported to be. Apparently the scam that the CCP played was that a smart peasant would get the degree in behalf of some CCP official's idiot kid.

Hey, we need the dues! Damn glad to meet ya!

Posted by: Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman at May 23, 2026 09:49 AM (35YvA)

182 Thune is nowhere smart enough to develop such a strategy…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 23, 2026 09:43 AM (26GAh)
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I didn't say he did. I said it was an op. Thune's reading from a script, and one reason he looks so uncomfortable doing it is that he knows he's playing with fire. Privately he's probably fuming and doing extra lines of coke to get through the day.

Like I said, just a thought experiment, but sometimes counterfactuals show you real things. An important element of planning is to ask "What if we have things backwards?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

183 >>Thus we see entire apartment buildings tipping over in the mud, and bridges falling off of their anchor-points.

China has been working to reintegrate Macau back into the country ever since they took it back from Portugal. One of the things they did was to build a new campus for the University of Macau and made it an attractive place for students from all over China to attend. At least on paper.

I visited the campus a couple years after the place was completed. Sort of completed. Better said is they stopped trying to fix it.

The place was already falling apart. I mean the parts that were actually sort of finished. It looked nice from a distance but up close and particularly behind the freshly painted walls it was crap. Typical modern Chinese construction.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 09:49 AM (viF8m)

184 It wasn't the anti-communism that was the problem, it was the socialist element of Fascism. Franco was a pragmatist and didn't like ideologues. Hence his shift to technocrats to develop Spain.

Divison Azul was pretty hard core and Franco honored its veterans.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:44 AM (ZOv7s)


The men in the Blue Division were happy to go to Russia and kill more Commies. (I doubt that they enjoyed the winters there, however.)

I ran out of space, but meant to indicate that by recruiting for the Blue Division, this helped Franco when he was forming a post-Civil War government.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (ksbjf)

185 Thank you mick

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (RIvkX)

186 Good morning all. My prayers, and those of those of you who sent some up, have been answered. Chemo is finished and the scans show no current signs of lymphoma.
So about six months from biopsy to good bye cancer, I can live with that. Thank you all, and thank God for letting me keep on keeping on.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (sl73Y)

187 Welcome to the Saturday Morning AOSHQ Coffee Break, Prayer Revival and Wall of Text Thread.

Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (qgHp7)

188 I am always amazed at the level of administrative staffing required by any government program to provide for the common good, and both checks and balances are important when you are spending government funds...

but mostly "checks"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (hOUT3)

189 Emmie--it isn't really remote friendly. That said I've been considering going on disability due to mounting mobility issues. Another for the pile, it seems.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at May 23, 2026 09:51 AM (w4TvZ)

190 Powerline week in pictures
492 Billionaires and not one of them losers has decided to become Batman

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 09:53 AM (Ia/+0)

191 Government assistance is neither.

Posted by: Pithy Sayings R Us at May 23, 2026 09:53 AM (2Ez/1)

192 So about six months from biopsy to good bye cancer, I can live with that. Thank you all, and thank God for letting me keep on keeping on.
Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (sl73Y)
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b"h for good health

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 09:53 AM (RIvkX)

193 So about six months from biopsy to good bye cancer, I can live with that. Thank you all, and thank God for letting me keep on keeping on.
Posted by: From about That Time
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So happy to see this. Praise God!

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 23, 2026 09:54 AM (0SdQT)

194 I called the state insurance commissioner and learned that my expectations for auto insurance were unrealistic.

I gotta eat too you know.

Have you been damaged by someone who was driving carelessly and hit you through no fault of your own? Well, call me, I want to get you some money!

Posted by: Alexander Shunnarah, Billboard King And Ambulamps Chaser at May 23, 2026 09:54 AM (35YvA)

195 It's depressing and it's also clear that our relative lives with a huge burden of performance pressure.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 09:48 AM (FMtrg)
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My wife's family was like that - outwardly perfect Christians, terrible people in private. It ultimately drove her away from God and she dabbled in Wicca and the occult, and when she was denounced for it, she simply embraced the role. "You call me a witch? Okay, I'll be a witch."

But she never bought into it, always knew it was wrong, and it's interesting how we found each other, and then stumbled, wandered and backslid into the Church, very much against our will. God works in mysterious ways.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)

196 187 Welcome to the Saturday Morning AOSHQ Coffee Break, Prayer Revival and Wall of Text Thread.
Posted by: muldoon


*polite cough*

Posted by: The dryer lint at May 23, 2026 09:55 AM (2Ez/1)

197 Came home yesterday and while I have to utilize a wound vac for a time it's good to be home
Posted by: Smell the Glove

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Glad you are home. Years back I had a wound vac on the foot for 10+ weeks after an infection. Medicine is good, but it's incredible the number of ways they have developed to tie you down.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 09:56 AM (sl73Y)

198 >>Posted by: From about That Time

Congratulations.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 09:57 AM (viF8m)

199 I am always amazed at the level of administrative staffing required by any government program to provide for the common good, and both checks and balances are important when you are spending government funds...

but mostly "checks"!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (hOUT3)
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One of the few encouraging things is that in various places, people were doing the right thing, reporting the fraud. Tracking it, documenting it, and that has been very helpful for federal investigators.

It's also shocking how vile Walz and Brylcreem are, how they actively thwarted honest subordinates and punished them. At this point, I believe them capable of any and all manner of vile deeds.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:57 AM (ZOv7s)

200 It's pretty cool to see my Three Generations Problem be proven in real time. I thought it only applied to the military, but every aspect of mainland China's culture has been corrupted.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

What makes it almost impossible to repair is that it exists at even the most basic levels. In recent threads many who are expert at mechanical work (AOP, Berserker, others) have talked about how it’s widely known that “Chinium” or “Chinaluminum” - basically any Chinese made metal - is inferior, brittle, and full of impurities, making anything built with it prone to failure under any stress.

Everything they build is like making houses out of rotten wood.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 09:58 AM (U0opd)

201 Good morning all. My prayers, and those of those of you who sent some up, have been answered. Chemo is finished and the scans show no current signs of lymphoma.
So about six months from biopsy to good bye cancer, I can live with that. Thank you all, and thank God for letting me keep on keeping on.
Posted by: From about That Time at May 23, 2026 09:50 AM (sl73Y)
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God be praised!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:58 AM (ZOv7s)

202 Regarding the "morality" of the left, I have similar observations. We occasionally attend church with a leftist family member and the difference between atmospheres of our churches is stark. In our church, we contemplate how good God is and live in gratitude for His mercy. In her church, they all reassure and congratulate each other for being good people and shouldn't God be impressed with how much better they are than others!
...
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 09:48 AM (FMtrg)


Now that many of the Catholic priests from the "Hippy generation" have retired, homilies concerning sin and Confession are pretty typical from the younger priests. Of course, we still suffer under many Liberal Catholics in the hierarchy, but that too will pass in God's good time.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:58 AM (ksbjf)

203 It's also shocking how vile Walz and Brylcreem are, how they actively thwarted honest subordinates and punished them. At this point, I believe them capable of any and all manner of vile deeds.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:57 AM (ZOv7s)
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Has anyone checked their closets and crawlspaces for *actual* skeletons?

Wouldn't be surprised to find them...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2026 09:58 AM (gnNyN)

204 Congratulations to Grandpa-to-be SanFran and family. Prayers for health and happiness. From JTB and Mrs.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at May 23, 2026 09:59 AM (yTvNw)

205 187 Welcome to the Saturday Morning AOSHQ Coffee Break, Prayer Revival and Wall of Text Thread.
Posted by: muldoon

*polite cough*
Posted by: The dryer lint at May 23, 2026 09:55 AM (2Ez/1)

Well, there are worse things.

Posted by: Foreskin Lint at May 23, 2026 10:00 AM (35YvA)

206 Welcome to the Saturday Morning AOSHQ Coffee Break, Prayer Revival and Wall of Text Thread...

...This week featuring a brief cameo appearance by...The dryer lint

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program!

Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 10:00 AM (qgHp7)

207 Prayers for everyone here.

Brother Tim, I hope things improve fast. Going to churches is the best idea. Also, once they get to know you, perhaps you can find connections for new work.

Try to take care of yourself mentally.

In my part of Canada, there are also government phone numbers you can call and they'll hook you up with 'government services.' And your area may have someone to talk to online. It's one step below the crisis hotlines but they did help me. And pills for anxiety and depression, and panic attacks, from my doctor are helping me a lot.

I've rarely gone to the doctor and am not a pill person and will get off of them after things improve, but they really helped.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 23, 2026 10:00 AM (Sco7b)

208 Well, I have to go run errands. Then to great-grand daughter #1's 4th birthday party!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 10:01 AM (ksbjf)

209 Belly button lint.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 23, 2026 10:01 AM (5kMf4)

210 "...it's also clear that our relative lives with a huge burden of performance pressure.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous!"
*****

The Paolo, he has learned to thrive, on this, how you say, performance pressure.

Posted by: The Paolo at May 23, 2026 10:01 AM (2Ez/1)

211 Now that many of the Catholic priests from the "Hippy generation" have retired, homilies concerning sin and Confession are pretty typical from the younger priests. Of course, we still suffer under many Liberal Catholics in the hierarchy, but that too will pass in God's good time.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:58 AM (ksbjf)
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The shift in my parish has been profound. It's pervasive, both locations. The college location is in many ways more reverent (though the hippie rearguard still hangs out there, clapping at the end of Mass).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:01 AM (ZOv7s)

212
In our church, we contemplate how good God is and live in gratitude for His mercy. In her church, they all reassure and congratulate each other for being good people and shouldn't God be impressed with how much better they are than others!
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Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 09:48 AM (FMtrg)

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Thank God we have sound, orthodox priests (FSSP) in my parish and long lines for Confession.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:03 AM (HdYcL)

213 Catholic Kindergarten graduation.

https://tinyurl.com/26muetsx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 10:03 AM (ndZc7)

214 I'll take Sources Of Lint for $400, Alex.

Posted by: Just the punchline at May 23, 2026 10:04 AM (2Ez/1)

215 In her church, they all reassure and congratulate each other for being good people and shouldn't God be impressed with how much better they are than others!
Posted by: Emmie

And they'll know we are Christians by our love!

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at May 23, 2026 10:05 AM (yYROg)

216 In recent threads many who are expert at mechanical work (AOP, Berserker, others) have talked about how it’s widely known that “Chinium” or “Chinaluminum” - basically any Chinese made metal - is inferior, brittle, and full of impurities, making anything built with it prone to failure under any stress.

Didn't the red chinese raid the location of the sunken Prince of Wales to salvage the steel from the site as they couldn't make the same steel today? No respect for the young men who were entombed therein?

Posted by: No Shame at May 23, 2026 10:05 AM (35YvA)

217 > Thus we see entire apartment buildings tipping over in the mud, and bridges falling off of their anchor-points.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2026 09:17 AM (ksbjf)

Nothing to worry about. Nosiree.

Posted by: The 400 million Chinese people downstream of the Three Gorges Dam at May 23, 2026 10:09 AM (IG3/x)

218 > making anything built with it prone to failure under any stress.

Posted by: No Shame at May 23, 2026 1

Pot metal sneers at Chinesium.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2026 10:10 AM (IG3/x)

219
Didn't the red chinese raid the location of the sunken Prince of Wales to salvage the steel from the site as they couldn't make the same steel today? No respect for the young men who were entombed therein?

Posted by: No Shame at May 23, 2026 10:05 AM (35YvA)

_____________

"In May 2023, it was reported that a Chinese ship, Chuan Hong 68, illegally scavenged the wreck for its low-background steel. In July 2024, this same vessel, Chuan Hong 68, suspected of not only looting the wrecks of Force Z but other World War II wrecks in Asian waters, was back 'working' in the region and was subsequently detained by Malaysia authorities for 'paperwork violations'."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:12 AM (HdYcL)

220 The Chinese haven't made quality metal since the Great Leap Forward, when the peasants melted down their farm tools in backyard furnaces to increase steel "production."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:12 AM (u/oMr)

221 No reason the Chinese couldn't make quality steel except they don't want to . Same for the sheet rock, piping , seafood, pet food, etc.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:14 AM (qrzX6)

222 >>Catholic Kindergarten graduation.

This one has a woman wearing pajamas and fuzzy house slippers getting her kicks in at the end:

https://tinyurl.com/2s35wh6f

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 10:14 AM (J4Dwc)

223 It would seem going through Congress a plan to go all year daylight summer llan all year and drop changing clocks.
To me better standard time would be better, winter it will be dark way late in morning

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 10:15 AM (Ia/+0)

224 Prayers up for all of the Horde and their loved ones.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 23, 2026 10:15 AM (0nHVk)

225 Those Chinese stories are crazy.

I'm mainly fruits, vegetables, nuts and sardines but I'd be pretty concerned about buying grocery items from China "Now made with 73% food"

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 23, 2026 10:15 AM (Sco7b)

226 I'm still job hunting. I had a phone call with a recruiter yesterday that seemed to go well but the hiring company required an online "personality assessment" before even a first round interview. Apparently I failed "personality." Which, really, is what roughly 99% of people I meet tell me implicitly so I guess it's nice to hear it explicitly.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 10:15 AM (vTZFs)

227 Thank you JTBs!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 10:16 AM (RIvkX)

228 And they'll know we are Christians by our love!
Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at May 23, 2026 10:05 AM (yYROg)


Well, they love Ukraine and those poor, dear Gazans and cultural enrichers and Iranian mullahs and ....

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 10:17 AM (FMtrg)

229 Nothing to worry about. Nosiree.
Posted by: The 400 million Chinese people downstream of the Three Gorges Dam at May 23, 2026 10:09 AM (IG3/x)
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It's failure would probably be an improvement. The dam has actually made flooding worse because the power it generates is so crucial that they keep the reservoir full to ensure steady output, which means when there is heavy rain, they have to open the gates, increasing the water flow rather than reducing it.

Multiple stories about how normal rains are now being called "100 year floods!" by Chinese officials to explain how flooding is becoming pervasive on the lower Yangtze.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:17 AM (ZOv7s)

230 Thanks for your prayers, Debby! Hope you received my snail mail.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 23, 2026 10:18 AM (FMtrg)

231 It's been alleged that SOP for Chinese manufacturers is this:

1) Make the samples top-notch quality, superior in every way.
2) When you go into production, start cutting corners over time. Continue lowering the quality until the customer complains.
3) Raise the quality just slightly.

Pride in workmanship doesn't enter into it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2026 10:18 AM (IG3/x)

232 Good morning good people. Prayers for all Hordian intentions - those requested, and those known but to God.

Finally located and purchased the correct replacement gasket for my Bialetti expresso pot. Apparently, we Americans think that their 6 cup sized maker is a one cup maker.

I mean, I can only fill one big cup after brewing a full pot. Who knew!?

Damned Europeans.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:20 AM (vhPr1)

233 Those Chinese stories are crazy.

I'm mainly fruits, vegetables, nuts and sardines but I'd be pretty concerned about buying grocery items from China "Now made with 73% food"
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 23, 2026 10:15 AM (Sco7b)
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It's the rotten fruit of the Cultural Revolution. It's basically if "Imagine" was incarnated - no religion, nothing to limit you, people just out for themselves, lie your way out of everything, take what you can get, poison children for a quick buck, taint food, steal what you can.

A nightmare.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:20 AM (ZOv7s)

234 Ok, I did it.
Bought a Starlink Mini kit.
One small click of a mouse.
One giant change of a lifestyle.
Time to do some traveling.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 10:21 AM (2Ez/1)

235 No reason the Chinese couldn't make quality steel except they don't want to . Same for the sheet rock, piping , seafood, pet food, etc.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:14 AM (qrzX6)
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I have a Chinese Kar98K made in 1945, so pretty harsh conditions, and it's a quality piece of work. Totally parts compatible with German Mausers (I know, because it was given a German bolt and stock in Chinese service, presumably when captured by the Chicoms).

And of course Taiwan has excellent craftsmanship.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:23 AM (ZOv7s)

236 231 It's been alleged that SOP for Chinese manufacturers is this:

1) Make the samples top-notch quality, superior in every way.
2) When you go into production, start cutting corners over time. Continue lowering the quality until the customer complains.
3) Raise the quality just slightly.

Pride in workmanship doesn't enter into it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

China traders knew this in the 1800's regarding china and pottery. You are correct. Major brands spend a lot of quality assurance if they make stuff in China. Even then, their subcontracted manufacturers there will steal their IP, set up a competing Chinese brand, and do the same cycle.

Amazon listings are full of one vendor with many different names for the same item. When one gets too many putrid reviews, a 'new' company selling the same item pops up.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 10:25 AM (E4rtv)

237 The frames and slides of old Chinese Norinco 1911s are said to forged from retired railroad track rails. Not sure that's true, but the gunsmith who produced my rebuild said it was the hardest steel he ever worked with.

(I kept only the frame and slide and threw all the junk internals into the trash, replacing everything with both Wilson Combat and Ed Brown internals).

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 10:25 AM (J4Dwc)

238 Good morning all
Just stopping by to say Hi nd see how everyone is doing.
Rainy, cold, dreary here and really unusual for the DMV at the end of the May. A lot of barbecues going to get canceled as we are in for 4 days of this.
But, Life is Good so I will endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 23, 2026 10:25 AM (kJmSS)

239 I'm crossing the beams!

This one has a woman wearing pajamas and fuzzy house slippers getting her kicks in at the end:

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Pride in workmanship doesn't enter into it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 10:25 AM (ndZc7)

240 231 It's been alleged that SOP for Chinese manufacturers is this:

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That's accurate, but you left out "use your customer's proprietary IP without authorization to sell knock-off copies out the back door at fat profit margins."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:27 AM (u/oMr)

241 At this point, I believe them capable of any and all manner of vile deeds.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 09:57 AM (ZOv7s)


And to think that I once thought that Ian Fleming's villains that faced Bond, James Bond, were mere fictional characters!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 10:27 AM (hOUT3)

242 The Chinese haven't made quality metal since the Great Leap Forward, when the peasants melted down their farm tools in backyard furnaces to increase steel "production."

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I believe they were even forced to melt down even their cooking pots, so they were left with nothing to cook in. I'm sure Mao had plenty of cookware for his many delicacies, however.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 23, 2026 10:28 AM (qBdHI)

243 133 Happy Memorial Day weekend. Let us pause and give thanks for those who died so we could live in freedom.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 23, 2026 09:09 AM (D/6p1)

🇺🇸

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 10:28 AM (6wpGE)

244 Kindergarten graduation? That's definitely just for the parents because the kids won't remember a thing . Same for birthday parties before 4 years old.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:28 AM (qrzX6)

245 We have a newly ordained priest starting in June to help out our 85 yr old pastor. Both of them are wildly conservative and gladly give the stink eye to some of our flower children era parishioners.

It's interesting - the new guy was born and raised Jewish.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:28 AM (vhPr1)

246 Trump Ready to End Daylight Saving Time Clock Changes

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Get down, get funky!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 10:29 AM (ndZc7)

247 The frames and slides of old Chinese Norinco 1911s are said to forged from retired railroad track rails.

I vaguely recall hearing about some nice custom guns built on Norinco frames from the 1990s. Supposedly, the same era Norinco and Polytech M14 receivers were good too.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 10:29 AM (vTZFs)

248 That's accurate, but you left out "use your customer's proprietary IP without authorization to sell knock-off copies out the back door at fat profit margins."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:27 AM (u/oMr)
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Trump knows this, of course, and he makes agreements with China knowing they will break them, but that's part of the plan because he can use that to justify retaliatory tariffs.

It's the same with Iran. He took the initial hit, but now Iran is the one violating international law and the spineless EUnuchs look like total simps by refusing to defend freedom of navigation.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:30 AM (ZOv7s)

249 Memorial Day always reminds me of time with my dad when I was a kid. He was the Commander of a VFW post and Memorial Day was a busy day for him and he would take me along.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:30 AM (qrzX6)

250 34
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 10:21 AM (2Ez/1)


Please to report your experience for those of us that are Starlink curious!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 10:30 AM (hOUT3)

251 Multiple stories about how normal rains are now being called "100 year floods!" by Chinese officials to explain how flooding is becoming pervasive on the lower Yangtze.

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Propaganda - a limerick

The people in the flood zone are antsy
So Chinese map makers have to get fancy
To quell the people's fears
It seems every couple years
They have re-draw the Damn Yangtze!

Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 10:30 AM (qgHp7)

252 Sco7b)

226 I'm still job hunting. I had a phone call with a recruiter yesterday that seemed to go well but the hiring company required an online "personality assessment" before even a first round interview. Apparently I failed "personality." Which, really, is what roughly 99% of people I meet tell me implicitly so I guess it's nice to hear it explicitly.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 10:15 AM (vTZFs)

Young recruiter to older applicant: “I’m glad to see you apply here, first question I have is, what do you think is your greatest weakness?”
Older applicant:: “well I don’t much care about what other people think of me.”
Young recruiter: “Well I don’t think that’s much of a weakness at all.”
Older applicant: “I don’t give a fuck what you think.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 10:31 AM (U0opd)

253 It would seem going through Congress a plan to go all year daylight summer llan all year and drop changing clocks.
To me better standard time would be better, winter it will be dark way late in morning
Posted by: Skip

Let's go all the way and institute Zulu time usage.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:31 AM (vhPr1)

254 No reason the Chinese couldn't make quality steel except they don't want to . Same for the sheet rock, piping , seafood, pet food, etc.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg
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Communism is not a workable economic theory. E.g. sheet rock, Chinese sheet rock has a bacterium in it that generates hydrogen sulfide gas and carbon disulfide. But, by that time, the shell company selling that sheet rock has disappeared when the houses start having problems. Then they sold this drywall for gunsafes, again until the rust, etc. showed up.

Adding melamine to up protein levels in pet foods killed a lot of US pets, and so on. Shrimp is doused in antibiotics until it just passes customs or comes through uninspected and so on.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 10:31 AM (E4rtv)

255 Mrs. E met with her oncologist yesterday. To put it simply, all her good numbers are up and all her bad numbers are down. She now goes on a shot every two months. We would appreciate continued prayers.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 10:32 AM (LHPAg)

256
That's definitely just for the parents because the kids won't remember a thing . Same for birthday parties before 4 years old.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:28 AM (qrzX6)

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Odd to say, I remember mine. I had a button that said, "I'm 4 Today!" So not only was it my first memory, but I never had one where I couldn't read.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:32 AM (HdYcL)

257 “ On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”

John 7:37-38

Posted by: Marcus T at May 23, 2026 10:32 AM (qr9oS)

258 I'm not a big fan of products made in India either.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (qrzX6)

259 So just what does it mean for a priest to be "wildly conservative?"

Posted by: I gotta ask at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

260 Let's go all the way and institute Zulu time usage.

This makes sense but would require a short period of uncomfortable adaptation. Therefore, it will never happen.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (vTZFs)

261 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:32 AM (HdYcL)

That's why i said before 4 for birthdays.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:34 AM (qrzX6)

262 >>I vaguely recall hearing about some nice custom guns built on Norinco frames from the 1990s.

Yeah, pre-ban Norincos were a popular platform for many custom builds. Mine is a sweet shooter.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 10:34 AM (J4Dwc)

263 It's interesting - the new guy was born and raised Jewish.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:28 AM (vhPr1)
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Converts have a particular zeal.

Our parish is one of the entry points for newly ordained priests. Each one does a three year tour here to learn the ropes before moving on to a more permanent assignment. Over my time here, I've seen them become more orthodox and traditional. It's quite nice.

I should mention that Pentecost marks our family's anniversary of entering the Church. Twenty years ago this weekend. Next month is our 25th wedding anniversary. How time flies!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:34 AM (ZOv7s)

264 255 Mrs. E met with her oncologist yesterday. To put it simply, all her good numbers are up and all her bad numbers are down. She now goes on a shot every two months. We would appreciate continued prayers.
Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 10:32 AM (LHPAg)


Thanks for the update, really good to hear Mrs. E is doing well; however, prayers for her will continue nonetheless!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 10:34 AM (hOUT3)

265 Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 10:21 AM (2Ez/1)

Please to report your experience for those of us that are Starlink curious!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia!
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Plan to.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 23, 2026 10:35 AM (2Ez/1)

266 I had a big birthday party in kindergarten. The whole class was there. Earliest thing I can remember. Unsure as to why so much effort went into that. It never did after that.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 23, 2026 10:36 AM (5kMf4)

267 the spineless EUnuchs look like total simps by refusing to defend freedom of navigation.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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They actually are total simps and cowards to boot. It is their jobs, power, and lights on the line, not ours from the Gulf being closed. And UK cannot even bestir itself to drill for high priced oil even in its North Sea allotments. Net Zero dunces while they sell out the auto, power generation, and chemical industries to the Chicoms.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 10:36 AM (E4rtv)

268 252
Young recruiter to older applicant: “I’m glad to see you apply here, first question I have is, what do you think is your greatest weakness?”
Older applicant:: “well I don’t much care about what other people think of me.”
Young recruiter: “Well I don’t think that’s much of a weakness at all.”
Older applicant: “I don’t give a fuck what you think.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 10:31 AM (U0opd)

; )

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 10:36 AM (6wpGE)

269 And to think that I once thought that Ian Fleming's villains that faced Bond, James Bond, were mere fictional characters!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 10:27 AM (hOUT3)

The difference between Fleming’s villains and ours is that they were (generally) all highly intelligent. All of our enemies come from the character roster of Idiocracy. Power combined with incredible levels of stupidity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 10:36 AM (U0opd)

270 I know I pray for the same thing every week, but that's because the problem isn't going away and it's important to me.

As always, I pray for everyone defrauding the gov't to be caught and prosecuted, without regard for the protected classes of the progressive stack, and none of this "oh our resources are limited so that's too small to bother with." Not only is mercy for the guilty cruelty for the victims -- which are all of us, as our pockets are picked by the resulting budget deficit-driven inflation -- but it's also an unnecessary temptation for those struggling with success in life.

Just as an alcoholic in recovery doesn't just have dinner at the pub and count on willpower, but may even detour around his old haunts, we pray for God to lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. And watching near retards get outsized rewards from lying on a form -- and get away with it -- is a real temptation to anyone with financial troubles, or even just a profound lack of retirement.

So, as always, I ask God to sharpen the investigators' minds and harden the prosecutors' hearts, so that every single last fraudster may receive a long stretch of hard time in Federal prison. Amen.

Posted by: SciVo at May 23, 2026 10:37 AM (Sy6m/)

271
So just what does it mean for a priest to be "wildly conservative?"

Posted by: I gotta ask at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

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Little things like reading the Baltimore Catechism, Pascendi Dominici gregis and the Anti-Modernist Oath.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:37 AM (HdYcL)

272 We talk about how western economies have flourished in part because they have a well-developed system of business ethics that allow them to operate on a "high-trust" basis.

Chinese culture is a great example of an economy that never developed that system of business ethics. It is a "low trust" culture, where making a one-shot killing by screwing your customer is prioritized over building long-term trust relationships.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:38 AM (u/oMr)

273 Amazon listings are full of one vendor with many different names for the same item. When one gets too many putrid reviews, a 'new' company selling the same item pops up.
Posted by: whig

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True. One tell is the grammar and spelling in the product descriptions.

And some of the company names are hilarious.

Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 10:38 AM (qgHp7)

274 So just what does it mean for a priest to be "wildly conservative?"
Posted by: I gotta ask

No 'Peace sign" bullshit during the sign of peace,
No applause in the nave,
Supporter of the Latin Mass even though the Bishop has forbidden it,
Beer okay, if not required, during Knights of Columbus meetings,
Tell me your sins, NOT THE STORY, during Confession,
etc. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (vhPr1)

275 That's definitely just for the parents because the kids won't remember a thing . Same for birthday parties before 4 years old.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:28 AM (qrzX6)
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No, the kids love it! Are you saying kids shouldn't experience fun things if they won't have perfect memory recall?

One of the delights of watching children grow up is when the realize things have happened before and start to anticipate them. It was awesome watching my elder grandchild explain Christmas to her younger brother. She remember it, he didn't, but he got very excited hearing about it!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (ZOv7s)

276 Apparently I failed "personality." Which, really, is what roughly 99% of people I meet tell me implicitly so I guess it's nice to hear it explicitly.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Depending on the circumstances of that particular company, it could easily be a lie to hide discrimination to hire H1Bs or age/race/sex issues.

If you know the name of the test you took, and you are probably entitled to the results depending on state and federal law, then you should be able to find something like it online and figure out any issues with it.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (E4rtv)

277 I gotta say I'm a bit underwhelmed by the Turner Classic offerings this weekend.

My friend claims Tom Hanks has a new I guess documentary on Monday. Maybe on History?

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (l26NL)

278 258 I'm not a big fan of products made in India either.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (qrzX6)


Not to worry about those prescription meds made for you in Mumbai using finest water from Ganges, oh yes!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (hOUT3)

279 No 'Peace sign" bullshit during the sign of peace,
No applause in the nave,
Supporter of the Latin Mass even though the Bishop has forbidden it,
Beer okay, if not required, during Knights of Columbus meetings,
Tell me your sins, NOT THE STORY, during Confession,
etc. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (vhPr1)
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Kneelers for Communion? We have four at the moment.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:40 AM (ZOv7s)

280 True. One tell is the grammar and spelling in the product descriptions.

And some of the company names are hilarious.
Posted by: muldoon
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And the gamed reviews where a 'verified' reviewer discusses an entirely different product.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 10:40 AM (E4rtv)

281 And some of the company names are hilarious.
Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 10:38 AM (qgHp7)

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To be fair, I remember when "Toyota" seemed like some screwy Oriental name that only a kook would buy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:40 AM (u/oMr)

282 I'm not a big fan of products made in India either.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg

I once bought some toothpaste on Amazon. Then I saw it was from India. Nope.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at May 23, 2026 10:41 AM (l26NL)

283 Halloween was another fun milestone. "We do this thing were we go out and get candy! We do! We can dress up and get candy!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:41 AM (ZOv7s)

284 To be fair, I remember when "Toyota" seemed like some screwy Oriental name that only a kook would buy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:40 AM (u/oMr)
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People would modify the tailgate to say "Toy."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)

285
Tell me your sins, NOT THE STORY, during Confession

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I've found the more briefly, sincerely and straightforwardly you confess, the faster and easier the whole thing is.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 10:43 AM (HdYcL)

286 >where making a one-shot killing by screwing your customer is prioritized over building long-term trust relationships.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:38 AM
____

And you have MY word on it!

Posted by: Joe Isuzu at May 23, 2026 10:44 AM (2Ez/1)

287 Posted by: SciVo at May 23, 2026 10:37 AM (Sy6m/)

I simplify my everyday prayer to asking God not to let evil prevail over good and giving me strength not to take matters into my own hands.

I pray acknowledging that God's word indicates that he has a hands off policy for the most part and allows the world to choose evil or good. I just ask him to intervene occasionally though his will be done.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:44 AM (qrzX6)

288 Oh, and thanks for prayers answered when cancelling my cable. Customer service 'Achmed', with an Indian accent no less, actually cancelled my account without an retention lecture and heartache. He simply made sure I wanted to do what I asked, clicked a few buttons, and 'Viola!', old account gone.

I love my Starlink setup so far - much faster and more reliable than that of my cable setup.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:44 AM (vhPr1)

289 It is a "low trust" culture, where making a one-shot killing by screwing your customer is prioritized over building long-term trust relationships.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:38 AM (u/oMr)


To be fair, by the time the customer complains, my company will have declared bankrupcty and changed its name at least three times!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS NoVA MoMe in Virginia! ~ at May 23, 2026 10:44 AM (hOUT3)

290 I've found the more briefly, sincerely and straightforwardly you confess, the faster and easier the whole thing is.

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You could organize it by confessing in categories based on the Ten Commandments.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:45 AM (u/oMr)

291 >>That's accurate, but you left out "use your customer's proprietary IP without authorization to sell knock-off copies out the back door at fat profit margins."

Years ago I was walking through a trade show to my company's booth and I walked by a pavilion that was sponsored by the CCP to show off Chinese products. I walked by one set of products that from the outside looked identical to a line of products we had introduced a couple years earlier. I mean identical down to the last detail.

We used very benign chemicals for the active agent inside our product. We found out a bit later the Chinese version was using what amounted to poison. China is asshoe.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2026 10:46 AM (viF8m)

292 Tell me your sins, NOT THE STORY, during Confession,
etc. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (vhPr1)

Best confession on film was in “I love you to Death”. The Italian husband (played by Kevin Kline) is telling his confessor about 5 or 6 women he’d had sex with, who were not his wife. The confessor says incredulously “that all happened last week?” And Kline replies, in his best Italian accent “oh no, that was just last Tuesday.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 10:47 AM (U0opd)

293 Can't say remember many early school class birthday parties, but think there were a few, and maybe when a couple kids hadcsame day or week.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 10:47 AM (Ia/+0)

294 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:39 AM (ZOv7s)

I won't get caught in the Ace-Endorsed confrontational vortex.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:47 AM (qrzX6)

295 To be fair, I remember when "Toyota" seemed like some screwy Oriental name that only a kook would buy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:40 AM
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Really?

Posted by: Daihatsu, Hitachi, Hyundai, Nissan, Datsun and Isuzu at May 23, 2026 10:48 AM (2Ez/1)

296 Posted by: Daihatsu, Hitachi, Hyundai, Nissan, Datsun and Isuzu at May 23, 2026 10:48 AM (2Ez/1)

The Datsun 240 was sweet looking.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:50 AM (qrzX6)

297 Depending on the circumstances of that particular company, it could easily be a lie to hide discrimination to hire H1Bs or age/race/sex issues.

Possibly. There were the usual age, sex, race questions but it did include a "decline to answer" option for those.

If you know the name of the test you took, and you are probably entitled to the results depending on state and federal law, then you should be able to find something like it online and figure out any issues with it.

It was called a "Talent Insight assessment" administered by Gallup. That might be interesting but honestly, I don't care that much. It wasn't that great of a job anyway.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 10:50 AM (vTZFs)

298 People would modify the tailgate to say "Toy."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)

I remember a couple that just said “yo”.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2026 10:50 AM (U0opd)

299 They can't help themselves:

A judge on Thursday handed down an extraordinary prison sentence — nearly 42 years — to the former leader of a Minnesota nonprofit who was convicted in a staggering $250 million fraud case that helped ignite an immigration crackdown by the Trump administration.

Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 10:51 AM (qgHp7)

300 I totally forgot who Pretti was.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 23, 2026 10:51 AM (3uBP9)

301 A judge on Thursday handed down an extraordinary prison sentence — nearly 42 years — to the former leader of a Minnesota nonprofit who was convicted in a staggering $250 million fraud case that helped ignite an immigration crackdown by the Trump administration.
Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 10:51 AM (qgHp7)
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The pacing of the crackdown has been interesting. We're now to the phase banking regulators are choking off credit and remittances, stuff people wanted a year ago, but of course after all the hoopla, these barely get a mention.

Self-deportations are going to take off.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:53 AM (ZOv7s)

302 To be fair, I remember when "Toyota" seemed like some screwy Oriental name that only a kook would buy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

When I was a kid, I confused "Toyota" and "Tonka". I thought one company made them both.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 10:53 AM (ndZc7)

303 Posted by: muldoon at May 23, 2026 10:51 AM (qgHp7)

Yeah before the fraud Trump wasn't cracking down and doing bad immigration things like igniting stuff.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:54 AM (qrzX6)

304 The airline I hired into in the early 90s used the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory for pre-employment screening. I think all the major airlines used it for such a purpose. Maybe some or all still do. Dunno...

Bunch of weird-ass true/false questions, I recall.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 10:54 AM (J4Dwc)

305 259 So just what does it mean for a priest to be "wildly conservative?"
Posted by: I gotta ask at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

Probably gets high on mescaline and dances around the altar dressed up like a toucan.
When he pulls out the obsidian dagger, you know it's time to leave.

Posted by: Yyrog the Lich King at May 23, 2026 10:55 AM (yYROg)

306 So just what does it mean for a priest to be "wildly conservative?"
Posted by: I gotta ask at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

Always speaks in Latin.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:55 AM (qrzX6)

307 The Datsun 240 was sweet looking.

Of the Z series, the 260 had the best lines. IMO, of course. Since the 80s I thought a 260Z with a v6 and a centrifugal supercharger would be amazing.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 10:55 AM (vTZFs)

308 304 The airline I hired into in the early 90s used the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory for pre-employment screening. I think all the major airlines used it for such a purpose. Maybe some or all still do. Dunno...

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I understand Delta has gone over completely to the Pantone scale.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:56 AM (u/oMr)

309 So just what does it mean for a priest to be "wildly conservative?"
Posted by: I gotta ask at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

Always speaks in Latin.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:55 AM (qrzX6)
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Threadwinner.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:56 AM (ZOv7s)

310
To be fair, I remember when "Toyota" seemed like some screwy Oriental name that only a kook would buy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:40 AM (u/oMr)
My first Toyota in the early 70's? 'Oh, look at that little clutch and brake pedal, and the gear shift?

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 10:56 AM (LHPAg)

311 35 Went for a walk with esteemed spouse. There was a robin sitting on the top of a holly tree. It looked like the bird equivalent of an angel on the top of a Christmas tree, and as we came back I saw a allium ( which I guess someone had picked and then thrown on the ground) 😕I picked it up and will bring it home. An allium is part of the onion family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2026 07:59 AM (m6Eem)

A while back I painted some dried allium and KT was kind enough to post a photo...
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=407009

Posted by: Admirale's Mate at May 23, 2026 10:57 AM (/enuJ)

312 The airline I hired into in the early 90s used the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory for pre-employment screening. I think all the major airlines used it for such a purpose. Maybe some or all still do. Dunno...

I still have my test results from when I took it 25 years ago.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:58 AM (qrzX6)

313 To be fair, I remember when "Toyota" seemed like some screwy Oriental name that only a kook would buy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2026 10:40 AM
----
Really?
Posted by: Daihatsu, Hitachi, Hyundai, Nissan, Datsun and Isuzu

During WWII, the military devised a new Japanese airplane designation system because yanks couldn't be expected to wrap their mouths around such weird ass names as Mitsubishi and Nakajima.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 10:58 AM (ndZc7)

314 I took a test at a place in Michigan. The HR director said with that 40 question test, they could determine exactly how good a programmer you'd be. It was me and basically a room full of Indians.

A very pretty young black lady pulled me aside later and said I was the only person they ever had to score perfect.

Go white guy!

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 23, 2026 10:58 AM (Sco7b)

315 Oddbob,
Link to 7 page pdf describing the results of that test.

paragonresources.com/library/guide.pdf

FWIW, I would check out your scores and find out just what (if any) might have raised red flags because that could be an issue applying to other jobs.

When I was a manager long ago at a big retailer, we administered the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) mainly to catch potential dishonest workers before they were hired. I took it when I first started working there myself and I guessed that I passed.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 10:58 AM (E4rtv)

316
Q: So, where'd you go to kindergarten?

A: The School of Hard Knocks.

(Queen of the Apostles in Toledo)

https://tinyurl.com/5dc2p4a3

Posted by: Can't make this up at May 23, 2026 10:59 AM (2Ez/1)

317 309 So just what does it mean for a priest to be "wildly conservative?"
Posted by: I gotta ask at May 23, 2026 10:33 AM (2Ez/1)

Always speaks in Latin.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 10:55 AM (qrzX6)
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Threadwinner.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 10:56 AM (ZOv7s)

semper Latine loquitur

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 10:59 AM (6wpGE)

318 304 The airline I hired into in the early 90s used the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory for pre-employment screening. I think all the major airlines used it for such a purpose. Maybe some or all still do. Dunno...

Bunch of weird-ass true/false questions, I recall.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 10:54 AM (J4Dwc)
I have taken that MMPI a half dozen times through the years. 3 times in the last 10 years.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 11:00 AM (LHPAg)

319 I took a personality test one time. Tested negative.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 23, 2026 11:00 AM (ndZc7)

320 314 I took a test at a place in Michigan. The HR director said with that 40 question test, they could determine exactly how good a programmer you'd be. It was me and basically a room full of Indians.

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Get out now

Posted by: Zombie Gen. George Custer at May 23, 2026 11:00 AM (u/oMr)

321 Sitting right here, boss.

Posted by: Suzuki at May 23, 2026 11:00 AM (2Ez/1)

322 304 The airline I hired into in the early 90s used the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory for pre-employment screening. I think all the major airlines used it for such a purpose. Maybe some or all still do. Dunno...

Bunch of weird-ass true/false questions, I recall.
Posted by: one hour sober

Test is oriented toward picking up dishonesty (socio and psycho pathic tendencies) and weeding out those that who were low IQ.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:01 AM (E4rtv)

323 Its the never talked about 'wildly Leftists ' you need to worry about

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 11:01 AM (Ia/+0)

324 Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 11:00 AM (LHPAg)

Ha you should have just given them your first test results each time you were requested to take it. (unless the first one said you were a psychopath 😃

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:02 AM (qrzX6)

325 What i remember about the test was 'Its a Trap !! '

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:03 AM (qrzX6)

326 I have taken that MMPI a half dozen times through the years. 3 times in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 11:00 AM (LHPAg)
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During the lockdown, my ANG unit did virtual drill and one of the make-work projects was some stupid personality/human relations crap where we all took a test and then the contractor reviewed the results on the Teams call (or Zoom, I forget).

Anyhow, folks my not be surprised to know I was quite the outspoken senior NCO, and eventually my lack of commentary was noted and and I was called out on it. What were my results? What were my thoughts?

I said I thought it was bunk because it assumes we act the same way in all settings. We don't. I carry myself one way on active duty, another way at my civilian job, and then still another way relaxing with friends and family. People should adjust to circumstances, not be their best self.

As is often the case, awkward silence was the response.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 23, 2026 11:04 AM (ZOv7s)

327 Test is oriented toward picking up dishonesty (socio and psycho pathic tendencies) and weeding out those that who were low IQ.
Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:01 AM
*******

Remember, Jerry: it's not a lie if YOU believe it.

Posted by: George Costanza at May 23, 2026 11:05 AM (2Ez/1)

328 >>I still have my test results from when I took it 25 years ago.

I never got my results, but I didn't really care. I must've passed because they hired me (and then furloughed me 10 months later).

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 11:06 AM (J4Dwc)

329 FWIW, the 'weird' true/false were designed for easy scoring but also to make it difficult to game every question which a dishonest person tries to do. So they ask the same basic question in multiple different ways to trap those along with some obvious gimmes.

Good survey and testing design does this because a) people will lie on surveys, and b) in an exam with limited choices, it becomes easier to figure out for some people what the desired answer is from cues in the question design, not actual knowledge or understanding.

I quit using those type tests for higher level classes because it took me much longer to construct a valid test instrument for a course that way than simply positing a hypothetical and have them answer it in essay form.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:06 AM (E4rtv)

330 304 The airline I hired into in the early 90s used the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory for pre-employment screening. I think all the major airlines used it for such a purpose. Maybe some or all still do. Dunno...

Bunch of weird-ass true/false questions, I recall.
Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2026 10:54 AM (J4Dwc)
Hell I always walked out thinking I failed. But, I was always hired or stayed hired. The psych interview was the scary part, knowing the doc had some issues.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2026 11:06 AM (LHPAg)

331 Wow, looks like "Trump" is becoming synonymous with "failure". Everything he touches is turning to shit. His own party hates him. ROFL

Posted by: Sid at May 23, 2026 11:07 AM (kGrfb)

332 Nood. KT is up.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 11:08 AM (E4rtv)

333 315 Oddbob,
Link to 7 page pdf describing the results of that test.

paragonresources.com/library/guide.pdf

FWIW, I would check out your scores and find out just what (if any) might have raised red flags because that could be an issue applying to other jobs.

Posted by: whig at May 23, 2026 10:58 AM (E4rtv)

Cool! Thanks.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 11:09 AM (6wpGE)

334 Just blacken in the ovals so that they make interesting patterns on the score sheet.

Posted by: My 24 year old self at May 23, 2026 11:09 AM (2Ez/1)

335 Sid lives in bizarro world. Take your medicine retard.

Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 23, 2026 11:10 AM (qrzX6)

336 I have taken that MMPI a half dozen times through the years. 3 times in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Eromero

As have I. Consider this - It must be administered, scored, and interpreted by a qualified licensed clinical psychologist or psychiatrist.

Yeah, they're normal.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2026 11:13 AM (vhPr1)

337 Just blacken in the ovals so that they make interesting patterns on the score sheet.

Ya know, that could make an interesting AI project. Take a few million or so scantron test sheets and see if the correct answers form an identifiable pattern. Place your bets on "ant track" or "falling rain."

Posted by: Oddbob at May 23, 2026 11:16 AM (vTZFs)

338 Apparently the scam that the CCP played was that a smart peasant would get the degree in behalf of some CCP official's idiot kid.

Thus we see entire apartment buildings tipping over in the mud, and bridges falling off of their anchor-points.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop


Not unlike the Ivey Leagues here.
Except here the official's idiot kid just shows up and gets an 'A'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 23, 2026 11:19 AM (/lPRQ)

339 they hired me (and then furloughed me 10 months later).

What a shame there isn't some similar corporate profile you can make them take at the interview, to show who's going to do that.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 23, 2026 11:27 AM (zdLoL)

340 Odd to say, I remember mine. I had a button that said, "I'm 4 Today!" So not only was it my first memory, but I never had one where I couldn't read.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Are you certain that wasn't your 40th Birthday?

Posted by: Ain't It Funny How Time Slips Away? at May 23, 2026 02:47 PM (oftw2)

341 A!I'm you whippersnappers obviously don't remember our first foray into permanent Daylight time. As a result of the fuel crisis, Nixon signed the law setting Daylight time permanently. Not really so much though, since Ford signed the law revoking it in August. Tried it for all of 3 months and got pissed about it.

All the complaints about Chinese um come under the heading of synchronicity. My wife has the YouTube channel "The China Show" on right now.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 23, 2026 07:38 PM (mSL0+)

Daily Tech News 23 May 2026

Top Story



Tech News

  • Google's API keys are distributed - as expected of a global platform - and asynchronous. (Dark Reading)

    The upshot of which is that if you delete an API key because you suspect it might have fallen into the wrong hands, it will disappear instantly from view for you. But those wrong hands might have access to it for another twenty minutes, which is a long time on this scale.


  • Firefox has stopped crashing on Intel Raptor lake (13th and 14th generation) systems. (Dark Reading)

    Mozilla initially blamed Intel for the problem, because 13th and 14th generation Intel processors - at least the high-end desktop ones, not so much laptop chips - had a serious problem where they would draw too much power and slowly kill themselves, resulting in much the same instability that showed up in their diagnostic reports.

    Except... It disproportionately affected Firefox. Because this time it wasn't Intel's fault.


  • Walmart has announced a new range of Android tablets starting at $97. (Liliputing)

    Are they any good? Well, the cheapest model with its 7" 1024x600 screen is most definitely not.

    The next step up, though, an 8.1" model priced at $138, has a 1524x1000 screen, 6GB of RAM, and 64GB of storage. It's certainly not a high end model but that's not a high-end price, and the screen while not amazing is distinctly better than the 1280x800 resolution found in competitors. The 6GB of RAM is a useful bump from the more typical 4GB in this price range.

    Worth a look if you live near a Walmart, which I do not.


  • ENReco Chapter 3 starts tomorrow, running from the 24th to the 29th. There goes all my free time. Chapter 1 produced - from memory - 400 hours of content in eight days, more than was possible to watch even if you skipped sleep entirely and watched two streams at once.

Musical Interlude





Disclaimer: I love the look of the instruments here: Not polished museum pieces, but the daily tools of workmen (and workwomen), and it shows.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM




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1 w00t

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 04:32 AM (NcvvS)

3 Nazdar nooded.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 04:32 AM (6wpGE)

4 Saw that!!!

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 04:33 AM (6wpGE)

5 :-)

Posted by: Nazdar at May 23, 2026 04:34 AM (NcvvS)

6 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 04:45 AM (Ia/+0)

7 >>>ENReco Chapter 3

I found this, online. Is this it?

https://enreco-archive.net

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 04:52 AM (6wpGE)

8 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 23, 2026 04:55 AM (yKhjs)

9 51 degree now and not getting much warmer all day

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 04:56 AM (Ia/+0)

10 at the youtube site:

(Dokibird's BGM) Bounty Hunter
Orchestra: Budapest Scoring Orchestra

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 04:56 AM (6wpGE)

11 Memorial Day...When I was in highschool I marched in the band. We marched to the local cemetery and taps was played and we played the Star Spangle Banner. My uniform was hot and I was overheated. Then we marched back to the school and changed out of that uniform and. At that time lots of WW2 vets marched, all who are probably gone now. Weather could be hot or cold depending on mother nature. Days for me that are long gone, but the small village still does the parade. The local American Legion has kind of faded away, I guess those days are going away. At least we aren't phrasing the glories of socialism yet, here in New York upstate. NYC who knows.

Posted by: Colin at May 23, 2026 05:03 AM (CiQE7)

12 LOL Spencer Pratt:

"My party is Angry Angeleno."

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 05:15 AM (6wpGE)

13 Spencer Pratt hosts South LA block party as mayoral campaign gains momentum

https://youtu.be/1Q8I35051Ak

Fed to me by The Algorithm.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 05:17 AM (6wpGE)

14
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 23, 2026 05:24 AM (AMvSw)

15 Neo might have the only analysis on that Muslim center shooters you will see
https://thenewneo.com/

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 05:35 AM (Ia/+0)

16 streams crossing and all:

Elon Musk retweeted
Nicki Minaj
@NICKIMINAJ
8h
Lets’s Go @SpaceX!!!
You guys are pretty freaking amazing. Wow. Congratulations on the successful launch —
and to many, MANY more. 🥂🍾 🚀

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 05:40 AM (6wpGE)

17 7 >>>ENReco Chapter 3

I found this, online. Is this it?

https://enreco-archive.net
Posted by: m


That's a fan site explaining the event. All the videos are on YouTube. There are a lot of them.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 23, 2026 06:03 AM (BLOW1)

18 10 at the youtube site:

(Dokibird's BGM) Bounty Hunter
Orchestra: Budapest Scoring Orchestra
Posted by: m


Dokibird is a vtuber (formerly Selen Tatsuki of Ninjisanji before they went Black Company). The composer has done a couple of themes for her and another for Clio Aite who streams with Phase Connect.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 23, 2026 06:06 AM (BLOW1)

19 Evening and morning to all on this start to a three-day weekend! I hope all the late toilers and early risers have good plans for the break.

Ever notice how it happens that you sleep enough, but it's on those occasions where you get up feeling like you didn't? No? Just me, then? Well, so be it.

The ONT quote last night from the "60-year-old detective novel" about friendship: I recognized it right away, the author but not the exact book. I should have known Just Some Guy would get it. It's a shame the weather in KS didn't cooperate last month so that we could meet in person.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:08 AM (wzUl9)

20 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 23, 2026 06:15 AM (VyBeY)

21 @Wolfus

Any progress on your Terre Haute house hunt?

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 06:21 AM (lJ0H4)

22 Second cup of black juice, and a morning pipe. Normally I don't smoke English blends at this nasty-hot time of year; they have a rather smoky campfire quality that goes best with cold or damp weather. But I hear grumbles of thunder and it's supposed to rain this afternoon. So why not.

Big black Stirling did not wake me by jumping on me this morning. He's sprawled like a long dark hill on the floor nearby. I know little Dagny is not locked in a closet, I saw her when I stumbled out to start the coffee, but I don't see her right now. She'll come trotting when I start to feed them in a while.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:24 AM (wzUl9)

23
Any progress on your Terre Haute house hunt?
Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026


***
Yes! I've located a very nice 3-BR 2-story on the edge of a historic district. Everything has been done inside (though I do want to have some walls repainted to my taste). There are a few exterior cosmetic things I'll have to have done, but if the inspection does not reveal serious flaws, I'd be able to move in without much trouble.

The local lender the realtor put me on to is slow in responding. I'm trying to go through the loan pre-approval process, but I'm not hearing from her as promptly as I'd like. If I don't hear from her by Tuesday morning, I'll call her by phone and say, "Let's get going here!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:28 AM (wzUl9)

24 "Yes! I've located a very nice 3-BR 2-story on the edge of a historic district. Everything has been done inside (though I do want to have some walls repainted to my taste). There are a few exterior cosmetic things I'll have to have done, but if the inspection does not reveal serious flaws, I'd be able to move in without much trouble."

How exciting! Fingers crossed that inspection and mortgage process go smoothly.

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 06:31 AM (lJ0H4)

25 And I got a good news letter from the IRS yesterday. I miscalculated the taxable amount of my SS -- didn't RTFI -- and they have found I'm due a nice and unexpected chunk of refund! It doesn't change my state return, though.

This means my estimated tax for next year will be less than I'd calculated too. So I'll have to send less for my estimated tax payments this year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:32 AM (wzUl9)

26 Thank you, Pixy, for the tech answers.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 06:32 AM (6wpGE)

27 Spider solitaire is evil

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 06:35 AM (Ia/+0)

28 ". . . I've located a very nice 3-BR 2-story on the edge of a historic district. Everything has been done inside (though I do want to have some walls repainted to my taste). . . ."

How exciting! Fingers crossed that inspection and mortgage process go smoothly.
Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026


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I hope so too. The area in Gorgle Street View is nice. A big bedroom downstairs, two small ones upstairs (I'll have to buy a window unit for my office), and it faces east, so no hot afternoon sunlight slamming into my living room windows. Small basement and a garage too!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:36 AM (wzUl9)

29 Wolfus, call up some local lenders and get pre-approved.

2 decade ago, I bought something and the lender associated with the builder did return my calls.

I went with a loan broker that my sister recommended. I eventually got a call from the builder's leader. She hadn't seen anyone with a FICO score as high as mine (840). She had been on vacation. Too bad toots.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 06:37 AM (qFwJc)

30 Wolfus, I'm glad to hear some good news on your real estate adventures.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 23, 2026 06:37 AM (/k3in)

31 google ai overview is in some kind of time machine:

Hololive English's ENigmatic Recollection (ENreco) Chapter 3, officially titled "Broken Bonds," kicked off on Sunday, May 24th, 2026, at 7 PM PDT.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 06:37 AM (6wpGE)

32 Seems like AI is lazy

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 23, 2026 06:38 AM (znREB)

33 B of A funded my home. They kept the mortgage and never bundled it with shit (NINJA, No income, no job) loans to be sold off to suckers.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 06:38 AM (qFwJc)

34 did NOT return my calls.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 23, 2026 06:39 AM (qFwJc)

35 Wolfus, I'm glad to hear some good news on your real estate adventures.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 23, 2026


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Thanks. I want to get rolling on this. I dread packing up and moving in the middle of the summer -- but maybe I can be in my new place by Labor Day or even earlier.

I might even buy a little artificial Christmas tree, or maybe just put some lights out on the porch!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:42 AM (wzUl9)

36 "Thanks. I want to get rolling on this. I dread packing up and moving in the middle of the summer -- but maybe I can be in my new place by Labor Day or even earlier."

Any progress on the Linda front?

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2026 06:44 AM (lJ0H4)

37 And my car insurance will drop by 60% or more by moving to IN, too. Right now I'm with Flo's Bros, but I'll shop around once I get there, and of course will bundle my home and car insurance for whatever discounts I can get my grubby little hands on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:44 AM (wzUl9)

38 Wolfus if you want it push that realtor hard. Too many stores of a house slipping away because someone else is faster

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026 06:46 AM (Ia/+0)

39 Wolfus, I'm glad to hear some good news on your real estate adventures.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 23, 2026


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Zero. She won't even discuss this beyond saying, "I don't know," which means she does know and doesn't want to deal with it. I show her nice-looking properties online and get "It looks dull" or "There are no trees," maybe "That's a nice color." Pffft.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:46 AM (wzUl9)

40 Tuna, I meant to quote your inquiry about Miss Linda in my previous reply in 39.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:47 AM (wzUl9)

41 Wolfus if you want it push that realtor hard. Too many stores of a house slipping away because someone else is faster
Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2026


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I'm not sure it's the realtor but the lender he recommended. But an email from me is indicated.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:48 AM (wzUl9)

42 Little Dagny has emerged from her nest and is trotting around as a hint that it's breakfast time. Time for me to see about some chow too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 06:50 AM (wzUl9)

43 mornin yall. Tell me, what is the real reason I should never throw dryer lint away.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:52 AM (vFG9F)

44 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at May 23, 2026 06:55 AM (2Ez/1)

45 fd, fire starter

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2026 06:57 AM (5P5DO)

46
Good morning, Hordians. Ugly morning here at Schloss Hadrian. Lotsa flashies and boomies. Heavy rain. Won't be letting dogs out until it's o'erpast.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2026 06:59 AM (HdYcL)

47 "fd, fire starter
Posted by: Ben Had "

An old Boy Scout trick and really the only thing I know dryer lint is good for. I don't start that many fires though, and certainly not enough to save all my lint. There must be some other reason that the NY Post is recommending that I stockpile dryer lint.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:00 AM (vFG9F)

48 Good morning everyone. Thankfully we’re finally getting rain here in western NC. It’s been pouring down since yesterday morning. I’m very happy. Have a peaceful and pleasant day.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at May 23, 2026 07:03 AM (lsIOl)

49 I wonder if it is possible to make a rocket engine using dryer lint.

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:03 AM (vFG9F)

50 "Want to listen to music? Well, sure, that's in there too. Somewhere. Probably."

Someone should really tell Spotify that if they go diving in a big tank of sewage, they shouldn't expect to come up smelling like roses.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 23, 2026 07:08 AM (O7YUW)

51 I could never store my dryer lint. It's such a delicious, low-calorie snack. Nature's cotton candy.

Posted by: HELP ME! at May 23, 2026 07:10 AM (Fkqu4)

52 Morning peeps. Day 3 of rain. I've got to get some shoes on, go out and open the wastegate on the pool. It's about to overflow.

After some coffee...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2026 07:12 AM (jehhT)

53 Last night we watched the Hank Williams 2016 biopic I Saw the Light. A grand performance by Tom Hiddleston, whose work I did not know. There were far too many scenes that were poorly lit, especially indoors, but I can overlook that for such a well-done film.

Tonight The Longest Day is on Movies!, and Svengoolie has Dr.Cyclops, which I haven't seen in many years. But we also have The Sun Also Rises w/ Tyrone Power and Ava Gardner on DVD.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2026 07:12 AM (wzUl9)

54 43 mornin yall. Tell me, what is the real reason I should never throw dryer lint away.
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 06:52 AM (vFG9F)

If they escape into the wild, there's a risk that they'll all reassemble into Dryer Lint Man.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 07:14 AM (6wpGE)

55 some say dryer lint can go into the compost; others think that's a bad idea because (gasp!) microplastics!

I like a nice wad or two of lint at the bottom of a fresh kitchen trash bag to absorb possible ooze ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 23, 2026 07:17 AM (VyBeY)

56 Dryer Lint Man? Does whatever dryer lint can?

Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:22 AM (vFG9F)

57 56 Dryer Lint Man? Does whatever dryer lint can?
Posted by: fd at May 23, 2026 07:22 AM (vFG9F)

He looks a lot like the Michelin Man.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2026 07:23 AM (6wpGE)

58 Good morning morons.

Formatting? Who needs stinkin' formatting?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:26 AM (RIvkX)

59 Good luck Wolfus

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2026 07:30 AM (RIvkX)

60 Coffee thread is NOOD (early.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 23, 2026 07:30 AM (O7YUW)

61 "Right now I'm with Flo's Bros, but I'll shop around once I get there, and of course will bundle my home and car insurance for whatever discounts I can get my grubby little hands on."
+++
Only pay for what you need.

Posted by: The geeky guy in the Plymouth Duster at May 23, 2026 07:31 AM (2Ez/1)

62 Did you know $500 will get your head blowed off? It will.

Molly Hatchet had a slightly different version of Bounty Hunter.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2026 07:31 AM (D1E+2)

63 Yeah - the magnesium bar from Doan’s machining co. White hot when burning.

Before matches, getting your pipe going was a bit of a trick. “Fire steel” and a piece of flint. I imagine they got good at it, but it was a pain in wet & windy weather. I made a Bow Drill once, and decided although it works great I will never go out to the remote sticks without about 6 different ways to get a fire going.

Posted by: Common Tater at May 23, 2026 08:10 AM (z1t++)

64 (Dokibird's BGM) Bounty Hunter
Orchestra: Budapest Scoring Orchestra
Posted by: m

Dokibird is a vtuber (formerly Selen Tatsuki of Ninjisanji before they went Black Company). The composer has done a couple of themes for her and another for Clio Aite who streams with Phase Connect.
Posted by: Pixy Misa
------
And... BGM.
What the hell is BGM?
I never actually found a definition spelled out, but I finally figured it out from context.
BackGround Music. Evidently a common term in film and video production, especially in anime.
The number of niches the we create is infinite.

Posted by: buddhaha at May 23, 2026 02:50 PM (mSL0+)

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