1 1.

2 I don't agree with it but I can see the possible long term benefits.

You open up jobs in the economy formerly held by working moms and you have a child raised by a parent instead of the streets.

That said, I grew up with two parents working full time blue collar jobs and I turned out somewhat normal. My father wouldn't have taken a subsidy anyway.

3 SPONGE!!!

And this is an wildly stupid idea, imao.

4 Early

5 $40 trillion in debt.

Yes, keep spending!

6 Get ready for Mohammed to get credits for 12 non existent kids, raised by his non existent wife.

Meanwhile John who has 1 child will be denied because he didn’t fill out form 1021-23 in full.

7 I think this JD/Tucker thing is just distraction. Tucker is obviously a shill for other's money but that doesn't mean he cant be a friend.

8 It'll be fraud-free!

9 Im not saying people in my area have bad teeth, but one woman just smiled in Walmart and the barcode scanner picked it up as a set of saucepans.

10 FIRST!!!!!

11 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.

12 Second look at Evan McMullin?

13 All the leaves are brown

14 Congress appropriates fund. The executive branch is legally bound to spend the money. However, they can makes some changes to where the money goes. That is all that is happening here.

>>The money would come from the Child Care and Development Fund, a roughly $12 billion program administered by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

See? All ready appropriated. If we want a cut in spending, and we do, it must come from congress.

Have a good day all.

15 Why wouldn't you just increase the child care credit on income tax?

If you're going to do anything.........Let them keep more of their money.

16 I won't vote for JD Vance in the primaries if he doesn't publicly disavow Tucker Carlson and all that bastard stands for. If Vance does win the primaries, I'll vote for him in the general with the same reluctance I felt when I voted for McCain. (Palin made it easier.) We simply can't lose this coming election.

17 If we want a cut in spending, and we do, it must come from congress.

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Sir,

Last year we spent $100B on this program. The democrats wanted a $10B increase. We, the fiscally Conservative Party stood firm and only gave them an extra $9B. So as you see we actually cut $1B in spending.
- GOP

18 Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2026 10:50 AM (viF8m)

Did they explain it wouldn't be new funding but from existing funding? That should be the first thing said and last thing said whenever a statement about the proposed program is made.

19 I’m on team Rubio. Vance has always given be a weird vibe. His coziness to Tuqur just confirms it for me.

20 Somehow I seriously doubt J.D. Vance is going to take the public's advice on dealing with his relationship with Tucker Carlson. When Vance officially adopts some/all of Carlson's positions I'll get concerned.

Until then.... the field, over there, is barren.

21 Shrinking Government. So often harangued about, so often lamented over, yet, like Herpes never cured. No politician really wants that, bloviations aside. Power is money, money is power, something I learned long ago and I imagine all of us did too.

22 Instead of offering a government check, structure it as a tax break for intact families with at least one parent working full time.

Should ensure that the benefit more more likely accrue to Conservative families.

23 I think this JD/Tucker thing is just distraction. Tucker is obviously a shill for other's money but that doesn't mean he cant be a friend.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

JD actually gave a good response when he was doing the morning press briefing and someone asked him about Tucker. He basically said that he and Tucker disagree about a lot of things, but that he's not going to go down the leftist road of making everything about politics, so he's not going to "cancel" his friend Tucker over differing political views.

YMMV, but I thought that was a solid response.

24 90% of posters here were in love with Tucker before the brain worm got him. I imagine it's harder to disown a friend as fast as arm length internet commentators can but I agree something has to be said soon by Vance.

25 Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 10:55 AM (Gqar

The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.

26 JR ain't tha guy.

27 25 Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 10:55 AM (Gqar

The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (iwxfK)

He is not a professional politician. He is a Black Swan and his like will not be soon seen again.

28 JR ain't tha guy.
Posted by: GigantorX

He's never been the same since he was shot.

29 so he's not going to "cancel" his friend Tucker over differing political views.


That's fine but he needs to clarify exactly what he disagrees with and strongly condemn the other viewpoints if not Tucker personally.

30 Government solutions are always the answer with goverment people.

31 It’s one thing to be friends with someone who thinks the top tax rate should be higher than what you think it should be.

It’s another to be friends with a guy who thinks 9/11 was an Israeli inside job or who thinks Charlie Kirk was killed by Mossad.

32 The Federal government is shrinking. Not enough for my taste, but Trump is doing what he said he would do.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (iwxfK)

In two years, Trump made the Federal government the smallest it's been in sixty years.

I'm not sure how much faster you think he could shrink it.

33 If you can't end the fraud then cut me in on it.

34 I'm beginning to equate Vance with Pence. He's definitely not MAGA.

35 Transfer payments? MORE transfer payments? That is the last thing on earth the United States of America needs, and for the administration to suggest more welfare -- because that is what it is -- suggests that they are unserious about the deficit and the debt.

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This is not more transfer payments.

This is redirecting transfer payments that were going out no matter what.

Only Congress can end this program. So...get to calling your legislators.

36 It is September 2026. The 2028 campaign has kicked off, apparently. It is like Target and Halloween merchandising.

37 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 10:49 AM (U1NLK)

Worked. Past tense.

38 32 In two years, Trump made the Federal government the smallest it's been in sixty years.

I'm not sure how much faster you think he could shrink it.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:01 AM (PGK1w)

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He's shrinking it to the max degree that he can alone. Slashing regulations and canning federal workers is great.

But more requires Congress passing laws that repeal existing laws that established programs et al.

It's the same argument over visas. Trump is minimizing them as much as possible, but he can't end then. Congress has to do that.

Hell, maybe if the GOP keeps the House next year, some repeals may get through with a Senate that no longer includes Mitch, Cassidy, Cornyn, or Ernst.

39 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.

40 22 Instead of offering a government check, structure it as a tax break for intact families with at least one parent working full time.

Should ensure that the benefit more more likely accrue to Conservative families.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2026 1

I really like that idea. I thought there was an asian country where you don't pay income tax if you have so many kids. Which is how it should be so welfare leaches don't benefit since they don't work.

I'd also like homeschooling families to be paid directly out of general education funds. Make the schools compete for the dollars. Maybe we'll see less than 69 genders.

Star Trek Day on 'The Price is Right.' Hmmm. Cool sets.

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39 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)

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All I know is that kids always match their parents politics exactly.

Just ask my prison abolition progressive sister when she talks to my GOP establishment father.

42 41
39 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

I thought the kid had left Vance's employ.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)

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All I know is that kids always match their parents politics exactly.

Just ask my prison abolition progressive sister when she talks to my GOP establishment father.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:05 AM (qE8uT)

So you are saying that Thanksgiving is your favorite holiday?

43 Vance came out of nowhere to become a senator and then 2 years later VP. That’s unusual to say the least. All because a book he wrote? Sounds sus as the kids would say.

I find it somewhat ironic that many of the people who are up in arms about flock cameras shrug at Vance being besties with the guy who started Palantir.

44 Economics involves math

I'll just watch

45 42 So you are saying that Thanksgiving is your favorite holiday?

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (Gqar

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heh

My sister turns off the politics when around family. It's not bad at all.

46 That's fine but he needs to clarify exactly what he disagrees with and strongly condemn the other viewpoints if not Tucker personally.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (KC5Lt)

Do other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?

47 I'm beginning to equate Vance with Pence. He's definitely not MAGA.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:02 AM


Wow.

That's quite a leap.

48 11 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

Used to. Now doing his own consulting. Bigger question might be who do his two Democrat daughters work for.

Anyway, 4 months ago, in his Podcast, Tucker and conservative brother, Buckley, discussed their regrets backing Trump.

I think J.D. might be playing his own independent game. Certainly not the 1st VP to do so.

49 If Vance is the nominee I’ll vote for him because a Democrat alternative is a non starter. However he will not be my choice in the primary.

50 I find it somewhat ironic that many of the people who are up in arms about flock cameras shrug at Vance being besties with the guy who started Palantir.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:06 AM (U1NLK)

The same Palantir whose tech is helping the Trump Administration find and remove illegals?

51 With Tuq'r Qatar-son going his current trajectory, what's the current odds on the betting apps that, despite Vance sticking by Tuq'r, Tuq'r is instead going to campaign for the Democrat? Even during the primaries.

52 I have already made up my mind as to who I will vote for in 2028, and I won’t be moved. It will be Not- Democrat.

53 Do other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)

If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.

54 Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.

55 It's actually brilliant! Since Congress won't decrease the program, Vance moves the program funding from wildly liberal families to wildly conservative ones...which will make Congress probably decrease the funding.

Win/win as I'm sitting here.

Now that Trump's name is on it, the program will be cut immediately, which is what Trump wants...

56 other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)

Does Rubio have good friends who are out and proud Nazis funded by Qatar to spread anti-American propaganda? If so then yes I’d like an explanation from him as well.

57 Thx CBD.
I'm not into Republican social engineering any more than I'm into Democratic social engineering.
Have government do what it should do and efficiently, and leave the rest alone. It'll work out

58 Carlson is notmletting friendship get in the way of grift.Priorities!!

59 53 Do other politicians, say Rubio, need to provide an exhaustive list of their personal relationships and where they disagree with each, or only Vance and only because people with an axe to grind keep mentioning that he's friends with an unperson?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)

If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (KC5Lt)

Rubio was Gang of 8, so I'm certain he's friends with a few undesirable D Senators...that doesn't disquailify him for me, anymore than Vance's friendship does, as long as it's "friendship, not policy advisor"...

60 I think J.D. might be playing his own independent game. Certainly not the 1st VP to do so.

Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 11:09 AM (NFX2v)
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A cause for concern. A reminder of how Mike Pence turned out as our VP.

61 Women working from home is not just a choice, it is something that became obligatory in the early 70's. I remember when mom went back to work. She hadn't intended to do so until I was older, but it made sense because money was tight. It was tight for everyone.

Oddly it is still tight, the quote I saw is that salaries are not really keeping up to costs unless you start switching out cheaper food and supplies for what we used to get, and that is all shitified so we get to buy more when it breaks.
I don't see this as a subsidization of families, as it is the first step to supporting parents to have a single working parent and a stay at home mom.

Here is an article on the great capitalist swindle that was pulled on "feminists" that touches on this idea

https://tinyurl.com/ftm96362

62 If Rubio had a good friend that says the same thing Tucker says then absolutely yes they need to clarify their differences. Silence is perceived as acceptance to many.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (KC5Lt)

Ah, but if you're left in ignorance about his friendships... that's okay? Vance has said that he disagrees with Carlson about many things. Carlson isn't an advisor. His son, when he worked for Vance, wasn't an advisor. Ask yourself who benefits from sowing distrust about the VP. It's an op. Same as everything else.

63 57 Thx CBD.
I'm not into Republican social engineering any more than I'm into Democratic social engineering.
Have government do what it should do and efficiently, and leave the rest alone. It'll work out

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (v6vok)

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Since the president can't end the program on his own, what should Trump do with it?

64 Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (tOcjL)

Illogical comparison to say the least.

65 We must punish JD Vance for his loyalties. After all, loyalty is just a form of discrimination.

66 Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)

It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.

I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.

67 64 Posted by: Nova Local at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (tOcjL)

Illogical comparison to say the least.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:15 AM (KC5Lt)

Not really - every D Senator at this point has adopted the anti-Jew platform b/c it is now the default D platform...so they and Tucker have a lot in common...

68 "...he's not going to "cancel" his friend Tucker over differing political views.

YMMV, but I thought that was a solid response."
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 10:57 AM (77rzZ)

We're not talking about 'differing political views' here. My late wife was a Democrat. I live in an uber-liberal town and have a number of Leftist friends just slightly to the right of Vladimir Lenin. We get along, usually steering clear of arguments, keeping it civil. However, if a life-long friend reveals to me that they believe an evil Zionist cabal owns the President and that friend further admits they secretly take payola from billionaires in Qatar, then that friend would no longer be my friend.

69 66 Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)

It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.

I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)

And do we want the money going to illegal Somali fraud daycares in MN...or American families of 12 in Iowa?

70 And as long as I am giving Vance some advice...deal with your Tucker Carlson problem, or you are going to lose conservative support. The fact that you have not forcefully rejected Carlson's lunacy, which include attacks on President Trump and his policies, suggests that you are trying to please everyone, including Carlson's army of Pakistani bots and America-hating leftists who gobble up Carlson's nonsense.

>>> The guys at Powerline (yes, I still read the site) have been hammering this for months.

71 Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.

72 71 Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar

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Trump has no response to this.

73 My sister turns off the politics when around family. It's not bad at all.

Yeah, but is she hawt?

74 72 71 Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar

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Trump has no response to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (qE8uT)

Snort.

75 16 I won't vote for JD Vance in the primaries if he doesn't publicly disavow Tucker Carlson and all that bastard stands for. If Vance does win the primaries, I'll vote for him in the general with the same reluctance I felt when I voted for McCain. (Palin made it easier.) We simply can't lose this coming election.
Posted by: troyriser at September 08, 2026 10:52 AM (v1M8F)
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If you needed another reminder of what a P.O.S. McCain became (or always was?), his and his family's post-election treatment of Palin was a disgrace. Maybe there was a legit reason to ban her from McCain's funeral. They never gave one. He's a P.O.S., the family isn't much better.

And never forget his role in the Keating Five scandal. The lone Republican among the group; makes you wonder if he actually ever was one.

76 Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.

Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar

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Trump has no response to this.
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No. Wrong. Its a terrific Kebab. Really Really Great. Enjoy it while you still can.

77 Does Rubio have good friends who are out and proud Nazis funded by Qatar to spread anti-American propaganda? If so then yes I’d like an explanation from him as well.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:12 AM (U1NLK)

I don't know that he does but you don't know that he doesn't. Since people are saying that Vance is suspect merely for stating that he's friends with Carlson, not knowing isn't really an option. Political candidates should be forced to declare every person with whom they've ever interacted, from birth, and how they agree, or disagree, with their political opinions. Obviously.

Otherwise, this is just people trying to find an excuse to support one politician over another for a reason beyond "he's dreamy and from Florida".

78 It wasn't that long ago when JD was universally hailed by our side as the best thing since boobs were invented.

But now, despite not changing his positions on anything major, and being overall a solid asset for MAGA, he's ... not.

I smell an op. JD is the guy in 2028. No doubt about it. Don't fall for any efforts to muddy his rep.

79 >Trump has no response to this.
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oh this got away from him months ago

80 We're not talking about 'differing political views' here. My late wife was a Democrat. I live in an uber-liberal town and have a number of Leftist friends just slightly to the right of Vladimir Lenin. We get along, usually steering clear of arguments, keeping it civil. However, if a life-long friend reveals to me that they believe an evil Zionist cabal owns the President and that friend further admits they secretly take payola from billionaires in Qatar, then that friend would no longer be my friend.
Posted by: troyriser
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This!!

Tuqur isn’t just some wacky leftist with crazy ideas on the minimum wage or some shit. He’s a fucking Nazi.

81 Meanwhile, back in Iran, it is starting to take a wheelbarrow of rials to by a kebab.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:18 AM (Gqar

Achmed's House of Wheelbarrows. Where you can get a rial deal!

82 Yeah, just what we need, another entitlement program to paper over generations of deliberate wage suppression. Which, if I were to be quite honest, I do not trust Vance on, or much of anyone else right now.

83 Otherwise, this is just people trying to find an excuse to support one politician over another for a reason beyond "he's dreamy and from Florida".
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Don't forget the boots.

84 82 Yeah, just what we need, another entitlement program to paper over generations of deliberate wage suppression. Which, if I were to be quite honest, I do not trust Vance on, or much of anyone else right now.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:21 AM (OUMaO)

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By "another", do you mean that this is a new program or one that has existed for 30 years?

85 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:14 AM (ExV1e)

You guys have condemned more people than I can name by minor association but it seems when the person is someone you support is close to a person who is an influencer and obviously unhinged , you don't think they should have to clarify their differences. This inconsistency drives me crazy . And it's not like it's requesting Vance do something beyond the pale.

86 What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.

And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.

87 JR ain't tha guy.
Posted by: GigantorX

He's never been the same since he was shot.
Posted by: Bulg

A guy can dream, can't he?

88 We must punish JD Vance for his loyalties. After all, loyalty is just a form of discrimination.

Now do Abdul El-Sayed and Hasan Piker.

89 /sock

90 If you needed another reminder of what a P.O.S. McCain became (or always was?), his and his family's post-election treatment of Palin was a disgrace. Maybe there was a legit reason to ban her from McCain's funeral. They never gave one. He's a P.O.S., the family isn't much better.

And never forget his role in the Keating Five scandal. The lone Republican among the group; makes you wonder if he actually ever was one.
Posted by: Another Anon
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McCain worshipped himself--a clear narcissist to which other people's rules did not apply.

91 I am all for the federal government promoting and defending proper families, marriage, and childbearing. Just... not with subsidies. Not only is it expenses we don't need and cannot afford, but when you subsidize something, that gives the government power over that thing.

92 what's the definition of nazi in 2026?

93 86 What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.

And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (K32Fz)

Verily verily, money and power. For us, the power to implement those things we love. For them, the same.

94 88 We must punish JD Vance for his loyalties. After all, loyalty is just a form of discrimination.

Now do Abdul El-Sayed and Hasan Piker.

Posted by: Al E. at September 08, 2026 11:23 AM (vTZFs)

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El-Sayed invited Piker to campaign with him like 2 months ago.

95 You guys have condemned more people than I can name by minor association but it seems when the person is someone you support is close to a person who is an influencer and obviously unhinged , you don't think they should have to clarify their differences. This inconsistency drives me crazy . And it's not like it's requesting Vance do something beyond the pale.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)

May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?

96 By "another", do you mean that this is a new program or one that has existed for 30 years?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films

Is this an existing one redirected? Or is it new? My brain's too foggy to work it out. Either way it's still just a way to avoid dealing with the things that have actually put most American workers in the mess they're in: Wage suppression and currency devaluation (aka "inflation").

97 Plus he torched an aircraft carrier

98 95 May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

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*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

99 86 What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.

And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (K32Fz)

In the current CR, Congress pretty much insisted all money must be spent by the departments they sent it for...so when stuck with a problem of being forced to send money to one's friends or one's enemies, I know I'd prefer Trump to send it to friends b/c it's likely that Congress will be willing to rescind that money...

100 95 You guys have condemned more people than I can name by minor association but it seems when the person is someone you support is close to a person who is an influencer and obviously unhinged , you don't think they should have to clarify their differences. This inconsistency drives me crazy . And it's not like it's requesting Vance do something beyond the pale.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:22 AM (KC5Lt)

May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

garrett?

101 92 what's the definition of nazi in 2026?
Posted by: nckate at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (enNUy)

Whatever the Left says it is.

102 Tucker’s kid works for JD Vance. It’s more than a distraction.

Trump and Vance used Tucker's kid to feed false intel to Iran and Qatar via Tucker and then fired the kid.

It's kind of amazing that this needs to be said about anyone in tight with Donald Trump at this point, but watch what he does, not what he says.

103 And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Everybody covets the Ring...

104 96 Is this an existing one redirected? Or is it new? My brain's too foggy to work it out. Either way it's still just a way to avoid dealing with the things that have actually put most American workers in the mess they're in: Wage suppression and currency devaluation (aka "inflation").

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (OUMaO)

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It's redirecting funds that Congress appropriated.

So, with no changes, it keeps going one direction no matter what. With changes, it goes in a new direction.

The choice without changes from Congress is the direction of the money, not the program's existence.

105 So many politicians are being cancelled for what they say, or not saying every thing demanded because of course failure to be perfect means they are not good at all. I remember when . . .

I remember John Cena being celebrated for saying the right things, until he didn't say all the right things while promoting his show in China He was cancelled, and that was celebrated because he was a coward who was being paid to promote a brand and WWE, and thought that was more important than being ideologically correct.

And now JD Vance, who was celebrated for his patriotism, his service, his family, his background, being Trump's VP, his faith and for saying the right things, and now, he won't say all the right things to satisfy you, so he is "untrustworthy" and "perhaps wrong for the job"

I hate that attack. "untrustworthy" is up there with "inappropriate". This is such a mind-op thing to say. It is really bitch move and and a female attack on character. It is so amorphous to be impossible to defend against.

It does have the benefit of turning all political discourse into a hostage video, or a maoist struggle session due to "political deviance" so that will be fun.

106 >what's the definition of nazi in 2026?
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someone who disagrees with you

107 86 What bothers me most about this is that there are so many "conservative" pundits out there who damn well know better defending this and attacking people who question or oppose it.

And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government. Too many social "conservatives" want government to be huge, just powerful in their favor. Too many fiscal "conservatives" are perfectly fine with massive spending on projects they support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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It is reprogramming existing funds for daycare from businesses like the Learing Center and to individuals. Not an entitlement but simply paying the same stipend that otherwise would go to some childcare center.

And no, this is NOT an entitlement but subject to whatever Congress appropriates for subsidies to daycare centers.

Entitlements are subject to special budgetary rules making them very difficult to change--Social Security for example cannot even be changed via Budget Reconciliation.

108 90, endorsed.

keating 5, wow, there's a blast-from-the-past.

109 May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

For starters, anyone who worked for the Bushes.

110
106 >what's the definition of nazi in 2026?
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someone who disagrees with you

Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (ZxPkt)

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No it's not, you Nazi.

111 This is all part of Trump's "give Vance enough rope" strategy. Vance is smart, and wrote a book, and is articulate, but is not necessarily a conservative. He still views government as the solution. He's also still pals with Tucker.

112 I think its not a great sign that "conservatives" want to hand out checks so people can not work.

I understand the concept is to enable, a parent to stay home and raise kids, but its a short hop to universal basic income from there. The country spends too much money on too much stupid crap as it is.

The elites already think they can run the country with AI and robots and don't need a working class anymore. Once they turn 70% of the population into liabilities, then the program will be to reduce those liabilities. One way or another.

113 Vance and Tuqur has the same vibe as Obama being shocked that his pastor believed things he said every Sunday for 20 years.

It was bullshit then. It’s bullshit now.

114 The choice without changes from Congress is the direction of the money, not the program's existence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films

Ah. My larger point regarding not addressing the actual problem(s) still stands, though.

115 Sanity returned to the University of Florida Saturday when the Gators took on the Florida Atlantic Owls at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville, Florida.

ESPN reported that this included the popular “gator bait” chant, in which fans would extend their arms in front of them and clap their hands together like an alligator seizing its prey.

... this seems a bit on the silly side, but RACIST ? NO.

Are all silly people racist ?
Would explain the Left's hatred of comedy and comedians.

116 New Mexico Democrats push back over Trump posts about renaming the state ‘New America’

117 Great, yet another way to create more dependency on government.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 08, 2026 11:11 AM (+9wcF)

It's money which is already appropriated and must legally be spent. They're talking about giving some to stay at home mothers rather than daycares. That's it.

I'd prefer that the money wasn't spent but that isn't going to happen. It is what it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:16 AM (ExV1e)

That puts a different spin on it --if it ends there, which seems to never happen.

118 Here. If you want a ton of immigrant kids living high on the hog in comparison to their shitholes, have a program like this.

The Canada Child Benefit (CCB) provides a maximum annual benefit of $7,997 per child for families with children under 18, depending on family income and the number of children. Payments are made monthly and are tax-free


Holy Crap. Star Trek lego set on 'The Price is Right.' $640.
AMERICAN DOLLARS!

Some lady won a Star Trek Cruise. If you can't score on a Star Trek cruise....

119 97 Plus he torched an aircraft carrier
Posted by: Don Black

He did not

120 >>> He needs to clarify exactly what he disagrees with and strongly condemn the other viewpoints if not Tucker personally. Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 10:59 AM (KC5Lt)

There have been rumors around JD for a long time that he is a Manchurian candidate. May be 2nd to Trump, but that his REAL handlers, Palpatine style, are working from the shadows. That if he became POTUS, he would cave to them and be as feckless as any of the other turncoat RINOS.

Playing footsies with Tucker doesn't help quell those rumors for me. But I also remember Reagan's commandment not to speak ill of another Republican, and maybe that's where JD is coming from. But Tucker isn't a republican, JD! He's a shill willing to sell his soul. Huge difference.

JD says all the right things very eloquently, and he is the Democrat's wet dream of a candidate that they wish they had, and are trying to find in degenerate lobster farmers. (Raised in poverty and worked hard, married to a beautiful successful minority woman, picture perfect family.) Love him and Marco, but both of them have at times been RINO adjacent. Rubio was, before getting a spine in Trump's cabinet. Hope they are both the real deal.

121 And it comes down to an effect I noticed a while ago: almost nobody is truly small government, they just want their opponents to not have the power of government.

AtC has noted for years that there is no actual constituency for a balanced budget.

122 May I ask who I have condemned for a minor association? Or, indeed, any association?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 08, 2026 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

garrett?
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:25 AM (Gqar

Which bathhouses garrett chooses to frequent are his own business.

123 Never forget when Nancy Pelosi revealed the Democrat Party's entire playbook:

‘The Wrap Up Smear’

“You smear somebody with falsehoods and all the rest and then you merchandise it and then you write it and they’ll say, see, it’s reported in the press that this, this, this and this, so they have that validation that the press reported the smear and then it’s called a wrap-up smear.

Now I am going to merchandise the press’ report on the smear that we made. It’s a tactic”

124 114
Ah. My larger point regarding not addressing the actual problem(s) still stands, though.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:28 AM (OUMaO)

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Talk to your Congresscritter!

The federal leviathon has only grown for a century. Until the 80s, it was almost all by statute, and even statutory changes and additions kept going until about the middle of Obama's presidency (the ACA was the last major actual policy change passed by Congress, everything else has been arguments over levels of funding, though there were some policy changes in the OBBB, but that wasn't the overall point of it).

To undo it, requires a lot of...statutory language. From Congress.

125 Get RID of these damn pop up adds !!

126 9/10 shows Tuqur does is related in some way to how Jews run the world . If that’s not a Nazi then I don’t know what is.

127 I have already made up my mind as to who I will vote for in 2028, and I won’t be moved. It will be Not- Democrat.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Gqar

That's where I'm at. What's Romney been doing, btw?

128 Some lady won a Star Trek Cruise. If you can't score on a Star Trek cruise....

"The odds are good but the goods are odd."

129 Love him and Marco, but both of them have at times been RINO adjacent. Rubio was, before getting a spine in Trump's cabinet. Hope they are both the real deal.

I'm old enough to remember when Ace joked about pawing through Rubio's garbage, and then declared Rubio *is* garbage.

130 121 AtC has noted for years that there is no actual constituency for a balanced budget.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:29 AM (2ocoG)

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If Obama hadn't stolen 2012 and Romney accepted it with a whimper, we might have had an opportunity to try the weak-wonk approach to dealing with the debt.

131 127 I have already made up my mind as to who I will vote for in 2028, and I won’t be moved. It will be Not- Democrat.
Posted by: tubal at September 08, 2026 11:10 AM (Gqar

That's where I'm at. What's Romney been doing, btw?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (g8Ew

The power of prayer will kick in at some point for me.

132 Trump and Vance used Tucker's kid to feed false intel to Iran and Qatar via Tucker and then fired the kid.

It's kind of amazing that this needs to be said about anyone in tight with Donald Trump at this point, but watch what he does, not what he says.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Some of the issue is positioning for post Midterms--aka the invisible primary for Presidential candidates. Cruz for example came out with a biography of Clarence Thomas just now. Activists are lining up for Team Vance versus Team whoever, donors are trying to get their hooks into prospective candidates, fake and gay no hopers are looking to be paid to be designated vote splitters and money sinks.

And the easiest thing to criticize as a sidewalk supervisor is our awful political process. And that awful process is directly related to the US being a hegemon and wealthy.

133 Most people want to cut govt spending in the abstract. But everyone has their pet govt cheese they don’t want cut. Which is why no politician will ever cut spending. It’s electoral suicide no matter which side of the aisle they’re on.

134 Yeah, I don't like the "disavow person that you know because what they've said is unpopular," but on the other hand, Tuq'r has gone off the deep end. So I'm not as up in arms as others because I can see both sides, but I also remember when Rush would say something and the MSM would screech about not enough Republicans distancing himself from him.

135 For starters, anyone who worked for the Bushes.
Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2026 11:27 AM (KC5Lt)

I don't recall that. I object to people who seem to continue working for the Bushes - in a political capacity. If I have wronged someone otherwise, I retract it fully.

136 It is reprogramming existing funds for daycare from businesses like the Learing Center and to individuals. Not an entitlement but simply paying the same stipend that otherwise would go to some childcare center.

We're 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.

137 So, the NYT reports?

And anyone believes it?

Sad.

138 In the old days barrels of rotgut whiskey bought the votes. Fast forward and it was Obama phones. Now, though, it is buying votes through insane ideas and flights from reality for the Left.

139 136 We're 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)

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So, get Congress to repeal the appropriations.

Until then, what should the administration do?

140 130 121 AtC has noted for years that there is no actual constituency for a balanced budget.

Posted by: Ian S.

I think it is more to the point that common wisdom of the crowds refuses to have key safety net items like Medicare and Social Security removed when it is apparent that the ruling class, corporate government contractors, and their pet immigrants are robbing this country blind. If Musk was correct, or even Bessent, approximately 800 billion to 1.5 trillion of the current budget is fraud, waste, and abuse of the spending process. And that leaves off state and local government fraud waste and abuse which is likely in the hundreds of billions of dollars range.

The ruling class is going to have to take a hit first by fraud, waste, and abuse like ngos, institutes, illegals, criminals, and other such bullshit first.

141 139 136 We're 40 trillion dollars in debt.
Every dollar that the government subsidizes people with, gives them control over those people (do this or I take away that money).
The smaller the federal government, the more liberty we have.
The smaller the federal government is, the less corruption we'll see.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)

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So, get Congress to repeal the appropriations.

Until then, what should the administration do?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (qE8uT)

Expose Congress for their villainy, mostly.

142 J.D. looks like a bigger & bigger sucker as time goes on, imho.

I would say this is not a 'concept' to release before mid-terms elections. He/they've played right into the D's hands.

Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette, " Subsidies eyed for at-home parents. Existing benefit target of change.
September 7, 2026
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Carlson's son used to work for J.D. He's got his own consulting firm now. Where his two also Democrat sisters are, who knows?

Just 4 months ago, in his Podcast, Carlson and his 'conservative' brother - also Buckley - commiserated about backing Trump.

143 Get RID of these damn pop up adds !!

Somebody get these BEGGARS out of here!

144 someone who disagrees with you
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 11:26 AM (ZxPkt)

I remember when "antisemite" was used for people who discriminated against jews instead of someone it was OK to discriminate against. Same with Nazi.
But, no one remembers the "10 steps to genocide" even though we were supposed to be taught it in school

145 Until then, what should the administration do?

pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.

146 A guy can dream, can't he?
Posted by: Larry Hagman"

Here, rub this lamp

147 Problem with this program is that like very other program it will grow. Giving stay at home parents some tax relief, sure sounds good in theory.

But you know very well it will then expand to not just parents but any “caregiver” which can include aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins. Then it won’t just be for daycare it will be for “special needs” which will be defined as anything and everything. Then before you know it every family will get a check for this because every family will qualify.

148 145 Until then, what should the administration do?

pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)

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So, until Congress does something with the appropriations levels while this discussion is happening, what should the administration do with the appropriations set out to be paid out by law?

149 147 Problem with this program is that like very other program it will grow. Giving stay at home parents some tax relief, sure sounds good in theory.

But you know very well it will then expand to not just parents but any “caregiver” which can include aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins. Then it won’t just be for daycare it will be for “special needs” which will be defined as anything and everything. Then before you know it every family will get a check for this because every family will qualify.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (U1NLK)

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This program has existed for 30 years.

150 and the MSM would screech about not enough Republicans distancing himself from him."

Indeed. We're sadly sliding back to the "all Republicans must..." stage.

Here, let's elect another bush.

151 pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:36 AM (K32Fz)

The money is required, by law, to be spent in roughly the manner that it's being spent. You're suggesting that the President act in a dictatorial manner because you like/trust Trump but he won't always be President.

152 Benjamin Franklin once said that the surest way to eliminate poverty is to not let the poor grow too comfortable. Ben was right most every time.

153 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)

You're starting from the position of "we shouldn't be spending this money in the first place!" and you're right.

You're also overlooking that the Executive Branch CAN'T stop spending this money. They can only shift it from lefty recipients to righty recipients. Which they're doing.

154 Program has been around but not allowing stay at parents to claim the credit. If this is enacted I’ll bet my bottom dollar within a year or two parents will be expanded to more family members. It will grow in score and size and funding to accommodate it.

155 Until then, what should the administration do?

pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.
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Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.

156 The money is required, by law, to be spent in roughly the manner that it's being spent.

Congress cannot tell the executive branch how to spend the money in a program, only that the program must exist and what it does. Its a separation of powers issue. That's why the president is slashing departments like the DOE, because the law created the department and gave it goals and guidelines, but cannot tell the executive exactly how to run it or how many employees etc.

157 Paying debts is racist. Probably.

158 pay the debt down and tell congress to appropriate less in the next budget or you'll do the same thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:34 AM (K32Fz)

It is illegal for the administration to do this. The money must be spent in a manner similar to its allocation by Congress.

159 Ben was right most every time."

Even as Silence Dogood...

160 Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)

But that was when the national debt was tree fiddy.

161 It is illegal for the administration to do this. The money must be spent in a manner similar to its allocation by Congress."

Teh Won laughs...

162 >>> I'm old enough to remember when Ace joked about pawing through Rubio's garbage, and then declared Rubio *is* garbage. Posted by: Ian S. at September 08, 2026 11:31 AM (2ocoG)

Me too! Good times.

Going deep. Out... Agree with you, I'm struggling with the ads on my iphone. It's pretty much unreadable at this point. And no, switching to Android and nuking my iphone from orbit is not an option.

163 100% what you wrote.

From ancient times, paying people to have families has never worked. Trying it again under some pretense of supporting families as a conservative principle will not change that success rate.

164 You can give tax breaks for families, reduce onerous regulations and costs for families, etc. That's how you help families and increase having kids. Make it less expensive and more attractive. The most powerful tool that the government has to encourage things is to lift the boot off their necks.

165 It is illegal for the administration to do this. The money must be spent in a manner similar to its allocation by Congress."

Teh Won laughs...

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:43 AM (cGjQu)

That's actually the point. That's precisely the point.

Do we seriously want a president who acts, functions, and attaches to himself powers he doesn't actually have?

166 Didn’t Congress also write some laws about illegal aliens not being allowed into the country? Biden laughed at those laws too.

167 This is sort of my fear when you lean heavily into populism. It starts going off the rails and just becomes Democrat policies.

168 Geez, I stop by for a glance and see that if JD or Rubio are out picks for 2028 then its dems all the way... just stop it all of you. There is never a perfect candidate - geez take a breather and get ahold of yourselves.

Heck, just compare what your thoughts were about Trump back in 2016. Good grief. I'm off to lunch.

169 50% of tax filers pay $0 federal income tax. This is just more welfare and not a tax cut.

170 Didn’t Congress also write some laws about illegal aliens not being allowed into the country? Biden laughed at those laws too.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at September 08, 2026 11:46 AM (U1NLK)

I want to make sure I'm on the same page going forward.

Are we in favor of following the law or are we not in favor of following the law?

171 From ancient times, paying people to have families has never worked. Trying it again under some pretense of supporting families as a conservative principle will not change that success rate.

Posted by: Sam

It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.

172 This is sort of my fear when you lean heavily into populism.

Right, populism has its drawbacks. Not what the partisan leaders scream but yeah there are real problems

173 On the other hand, either "If you want more of something subsidize it" is true or it isn't.

if congress won't stop spending the money, using it to subsidize something you want - i.e. a stay-at-home parent for small children instead of day care - is... the least worst option.

174 Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.

Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)

Mint about 50 Trillion dollar coins, well actually 150 Trillion dollar coins for unfunded liabilities, and you're good.

CNN - Amazon plane crash
FoxNews- women kicked out of game for 'XX - XY' shirts
MSNow - dismissed transgender army seargent speaks out - FINALLY...lol

CBC - I'm guessing tariffs and President Trump is evil personified.

175 I'm off to lunch.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM


Has Skip given his permission yet?

176 Agree that paying homeschooling families a "living wage" will get abused, and the money will NOT go the families it should. I think child tax credits for stay at home parents would ensure the parents are productive.

That being said, I do feel for the homeschooling families I know who could use the extra money. It must be galling to pay their property taxes, and see it get utterly squandered by the public schools, which is why they are teaching at home in the first place!

177 Geez, I stop by for a glance and see that if JD or Rubio are out picks for 2028 then its dems all the way

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Who said anything of the sort?

It’s OK to have an internal debate on who is the better nominee. Vance isn’t a prince and he shouldn’t be crowned as next in line just because.

178 171
It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (OUMaO)

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I mean...yeah.

Also, our baby bust it's really "our" baby bust.

Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now.

"Our" baby bust is progressives stopped having kids. Going from roughly 2.0 per couple to about 1.3 per couple in the last 30 years.

Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!

179 The world is chock full of problems. Politicians think they have to have a solution to those problems. It leads to spending, and bureaucracy and sometimes geopolitical conflict. World's broken and no politician or party going to fix it. We should try to live within our means and stop trying to turn the Country into free Disneyland.

180 being said, I do feel for the homeschooling families I know who could use the extra money. It must be galling to pay their property taxes, and see it get utterly squandered by the public schools, which is why they are teaching at home in the first place!
Posted by: LizLem

That’s something that should be addressed at the state or county level. Property tax reform is getting traction, this should be part of it.

181 Also Vance looks like he wears eyeliner

182 Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (qE8uT)

If it ever did, you'd definitely see net-negative population growth at the beginning...

183 It's not easy trying to take care of the world.

184 It will, however, buy political support, which is the real point of the play.

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired

Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running...

185 I want to make sure I'm on the same page going forward.

Are we in favor of following the law or are we not in favor of following the law?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:47 AM (PGK1w)

Following the law, of course. However, I will still probably drive 80mph in a 75mph speed zone.

186 Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now

Which is cultural suicide. You need to have as many kids as you possibly can manage, raise them outside state control, and teach them to do the same.

Imagine if every conservative in the 1980s had 5-8 kids each, home schooled them, and taught them to do the same? We'd lose some to the left, but the bulk would be more conservative. By now the population would be 5:1 right vs left.

187 4 Yeah, I don't like the "disavow person that you know because what they've said is unpopular," but on the other hand, Tuq'r has gone off the deep end. So I'm not as up in arms as others because I can see both sides, but I also remember when Rush would say something and the MSM would screech about not enough Republicans distancing himself from him.
Posted by: pookysgirl, always playing Tchaikovsky at September 08, 2026 11:32 AM (Wt5PA)

Tucker and Candace are doing the Steve Bannon shtick: veiled references to deep sources, dark information he can't reveal, bitch comments about moral qualities that never get defined, and just outright accusations that are never followed up on. It is a shame, too, because although Tucker is about as interesting politically as Joe Rogan, he could interview people very well, and for a while he could get non-loons to talk with him.

Levin and Beck in contrast are tools, but at least they are clearly doing it for money. Beck needs to support his museums and whims, and Levin apparently has a high burn rate and maintenance cost for his bunker.

188 A huge game in my region is home healthcare. Grandma or Grandpa or whoever qualify for some in home aid. They - for example - go grocery shopping and half the family - signed up as aides - run over and carry groceries in, etc. Then they may or may not hangout.

Doesn't matter. All get at least $15 an hour clear, often for not even showing up. Partying money. They call in local talk radio programs and laugh about the absurdity of several government subsidized programs, especially this.

189 Also, our baby bust isn't really "our" baby bust.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


It's worldwide. So it's everybody's baby bust.

190 189 Also, our baby bust isn't really "our" baby bust.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


It's worldwide. So it's everybody's baby bust.

Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:52 AM (77rzZ)

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American conservatives seem to be the only group of whites who actually believe in the future, if you go by birthrates.

191 I mean...yeah.

Also, our baby bust it's really "our" baby bust.

Conservatives keep having babies at replacement rate. No material change from the 90s to now.

"Our" baby bust is progressives stopped having kids. Going from roughly 2.0 per couple to about 1.3 per couple in the last 30 years.

Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films

I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?

192 188 What museums does Beck have?

193 Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running

I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"

194 Final showcase - a signed William Shatner communicator.
Priceless?

CBC - US may impose more tariffs today.

195 191
I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?

Posted by: Brother Tim is tired at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (OUMaO)

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"Not enough! Tell those that survived that they're evil because of their skin color! And that the world is ending no matter what we do! And that kids are a burden that prevent you from living your best life! And that those that do have kids were born wrong and need to have their genitals removed!"
-the past 30 years' messaging on the left

196 >>> Also Vance looks like he wears eyeliner

Some guys have naturally thick lashes. Of all the things a politician might do to boost his look (Like Desantis' platform cowboy boots, or Trump's spray tan), guyliner is a weird flex.

197 Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running...

Posted by: FeatherBlade

Not like the other side's coalition doesn't include far more radical thoughts in that vein, but never mind that for now...

198 I mean, it's almost as if aborting...and occasionally just killing...all your kids makes for a hell of a drag on your population numbers, or something. Crazy idea, right?

"As long as you keep sending your kids to our schools and drown them in our media, we don't need to have kids of our own!"
--leftists

199 Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running

I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

My wife said the other day (I think we were discussing the Clancy case) that she would gladly give up her right to vote if it would also be taken away from liberal white women.

200 Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.
Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)

Where did Jackson get the money?

201 A little ironic, since one of the biggest bits of federal fraud recently uncovered was because they wanted to let gov't subsidies flow to those who decided against institutionalizing their elderly parents and taking care of them at home themselves.

202 My sister turns off the politics when around family. It's not bad at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films

Mrs B's sister is a real piece of work in the best of time. Insufferable really. Covid drove her off the cliff and she gave Mrs B a raft of shit over all the hysterical overreactions. They didn't speak for about four years.

She recently called to visit with Mrs B. She never apologized really, but Mrs B took it as sign of admission she was a little wrong. Which is huge considering it's her.

203 Final showcase - a signed William Shatner communicator.
Priceless?

Used alien panties from Kirk's quarters.

204 Andrew Jackson paid off the national debt. It won't happen again.

Posted by: Its not like i am an expert or anything at September 08, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)

Where did Jackson get the money?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (rbvCR)

Tariffs, selling federal land, and taxing alcohol and tobacco.

205 I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

It has been suggested that the only real choice is who eventually puts an end to women's rights, Islam or some sort of neo-alt-West thing. I hope that isn't the case, but there are times I wonder.

206 204 Tariffs, selling federal land, and taxing alcohol and tobacco.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 11:57 AM (PGK1w)

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"It's fine when OUR guy does it!"
-the remnants of the Whiskey Rebellion, probably

207 My wife said the other day (I think we were discussing the Clancy case) that she would gladly give up her right to vote if it would also be taken away from liberal white women.

And she probably didn't even mean it but yeah, I get it.

I don't want to take away the vote from women, I mean there are a host of guys I don't want to vote but that's part of the cost of democratic elections. But I get it.

208 JD can decide who he wants to be friends with.

Why try to bully him into doing with YOU think he should do. Fuck that.

I make my own friends. And I don’t have to justify TO ANYONE why they are my friend.

Get off your high horse and mind your own damn business.

209 Very disappointed when I saw this idea floated. Argue against socialism by creating more socialism. 🙄

And can you imagine the number of somali kids that every somali mom will claim.

210 If I were 20 years younger right now I’d absolutely have no kids. The future for white people in America isn’t too bright. I think my kids will do OK-is as we are still in the transition phase. But 40-50 years from now, when whites a small minority…I don’t see good times ahead.

211 Do we seriously want a president who acts, functions, and attaches to himself powers he doesn't actually have?"

We just had two...

212 A little ironic, since one of the biggest bits of federal fraud recently uncovered was because they wanted to let gov't subsidies flow to those who decided against institutionalizing their elderly parents and taking care of them at home themselves.

Posted by: GWB

Do. Not. Get. Me. Started. On. This. Subject.

213 182 Still, America can still be America with a declining birth rate as long as we don't mass import non-Americans. And that crazy shit would never happen!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 11:48 AM (qE8uT)
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We don't need to import labor. We have a labor pool in waiting all we have to do is stop paying them to not work.

214 And she probably didn't even mean it but yeah, I get it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

You don't know my wife.

215 From ancient times, paying people to have families has never worked. Trying it again under some pretense of supporting families as a conservative principle will not change that success rate.
Posted by: Sam at September 08, 2026 11:44 AM (7jMef)

1) and will preferring one section of society over another garner more votes?
2) will having a stay at home parent lead to more or less conservative families?
3) what seems to be important now, the next couple of elections, or standing on our rock ribbed principles and telling kids starting a family who can barely pay the rent that they won't get help if they stop paying daycare and the wife stays at home and they should be happy that the conservative world is focusing on their children's eventual economic future should Congress get around to it and they can shut up now?

216 Do we seriously want a president who acts, functions, and attaches to himself powers he doesn't actually have?"

We just had two...

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 11:59 AM (cGjQu)

And condemned them up one side and down the other.

Do you now advocate for Trump doing the exact same thing because it's in service to a goal you support?

217 Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 08, 2026 11:51 AM (vJrRc)

It's so ridiculous- this whole " Let's repeal votes for women."" I understand many women vote stupidly. So do many men. Talking voting away from women will never happen unless, perhaps, we become a Muslim theocracy - in which case we have much bigger problems than just womens votes being taken away.

218
Paying debts is racist. Probably.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

Beans and rice. Rice and beans.

219 they wanted to let gov't subsidies flow to those who decided against institutionalizing their elderly parents and taking care of them at home themselves.

Which on its face is a good thing, but again these programs are never about what they claim to be, they're a way for grifters to open the spigot. Its yet another reason in so many for government to not hand out other people's money, even in a very positive cause.

220 212 A little ironic, since one of the biggest bits of federal fraud recently uncovered was because they wanted to let gov't subsidies flow to those who decided against institutionalizing their elderly parents and taking care of them at home themselves.

Posted by: GWB
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Best thing is to institutionalize them, put them on a gurney and roll them to the end of the hall. They go quiet after a couple of days.

221 >>> What museums does Beck have?

Glenn Beck? He's a massive American History collection junkie. He's commented before that his wife has had concerns he'll spend all their money on buying up history. The plan is to one day build a massive museum for it all, I'm guessing in TX.

When the Tea Party thing was still kicking, he did a pop-up mini museum in SLC and I dragged my family to it. It was so cool. He had blocks of pressed tea original to the Boston Tea Party era, so you could see what the actual tea looked like that was thrown into the harbor. And the emancipated slave in chains iconic items that became popular for abolitionists to wear and put on pamphlets.

He bought up some documents coveted by libs, I think connected to Roe v Wade? Not to revere them, but to ensure they are not altered or destroyed by libs. Keep their vile history intact for the future to see.

222 Not like the other side's coalition doesn't include far more radical thoughts in that vein, but never mind that for now...
Posted by: Brother Tim is tired

I have a theory on that.

I think people don't believe Leftists when they say that kind of thing and worse, because they perceive Leftists as not having the stones to actually follow through.

People believe right-leaning types when they say things like that, because the perceive men of the right as the people who get things done.

Whether those perceptions are accurate are another matter entirely...

223 And condemned them up one side and down the other"

And that slowed what, exactly?

224 The govt picking winners and losers has always been a bane to this country.

225 Certainly a better play than the "Vote for us so we can take away your rights" that the "repeal the 19th" contingent is running

I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

My wife said the other day (I think we were discussing the Clancy case) that she would gladly give up her right to vote if it would also be taken away from liberal white women.
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (77rzZ)
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Take the vote away from unmarried women of all races, and you're 95% there. Take away the votes of non-working women gets you maybe 50% there.

Hell, while we're at it, take away the votes from all unmarried and/or nonworking women and men.

226 I think people don't believe Leftists when they say that kind of thing and worse, because they perceive Leftists as not having the stones to actually follow through.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 08, 2026 12:02 PM (vJrRc)

I think it's because the nation has been conditioned (by the left) to reflexively think the left is good and kind. If things don't work out, welp... they tried really hard. They'd NEVER do something like that on purpose.

Even though a Dem candidate, this cycle, literally ran on instituting concentration camps for Joos...

227 Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:01 PM (Eng1Z)

Wow, thanks. That's very cool.

Always thought Beck was kind of a loon, but this raises my opinion of him. Good for him!

228 What museums does Beck have?
Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (77rzZ)

https://americanjourneyexperience.com/

I think he also loses money on cattle

229 I'm done bugging all of you. Last word on tariffs from X

Ian Lee, as Canada’s counter-tariffs hit: this isn’t a mood. It’s jobs.

~45,000 Canadian firms export to the U.S.; 30,000 export only there. $400B in sales, ~2 million jobs. “We are literally playing with fire.”

Sales collapse → “You lay off workers.” Ottawa can’t put them all on payroll

His fix: get back to the table. “I don’t accept the argument that we can’t negotiate.” Trump has done 19 deals since 2025. “Elbows up is an emotional response. That’s not a policy.”

Sovereignty demands? “That was a claim Canada made. I wasn’t in the room.” Greer denies it. Negotiate instead of walking away The real problem is older: “We should never have allowed ourselves to become so dependent. 71% of our exports go to the States.” Diversify later. Jobs first

230 208 JD can decide who he wants to be friends with.

Why try to bully him into doing with YOU think he should do. Fuck that.

I make my own friends. And I don’t have to justify TO ANYONE why they are my friend.

Get off your high horse and mind your own damn business.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 08, 2026 11:58 AM (W2Pud)

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I am reminded of sportswriters asking Tom Brady, "When are you going to sever your friendship with that awful Donald Trump."

If it looks like a liberal and talks like a liberal, it's a liberal.

231 Pop quizzes at the polling places

you gotta get 4 out of 5 to get in

232
Order of Maternal Glory

Elevating the Status of Motherhood Solves Low Birthrates: The Extraordinary Case of Mongolia
For 68 years, Mongolian leaders have given the Order of Maternal Glory to mothers. This raised the status of motherhood and helped forge a remarkably pronatal culture.

Mongolia birthrate 2.64

233 229 Sovereignty demands? “That was a claim Canada made. I wasn’t in the room.” Greer denies it. Negotiate instead of walking away The real problem is older: “We should never have allowed ourselves to become so dependent. 71% of our exports go to the States.” Diversify later. Jobs first

Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 12:04 PM (Sco7b)

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Don't worry. China will save you by forcing you to buy cheap missiles that fail in launch.

234
Very disappointed when I saw this idea floated. Argue against socialism by creating more socialism. 🙄

Trump Accounts!
Trump Accounts!
Get your Trump Account right here!

235 Do. Not. Get. Me. Started. On. This. Subject."

This. I'm sitting at mom's "assisted living" right now, burning resources I don't have. Meanwhile, illegals are sending home millions siphoned off from "care".

F me

236 I have been trying lately to avoid bringing up how stuff is not constitutional -- and this is not -- because it has become completely obvious that we are not a constitutional republic any longer and the only time it ever comes up is when someone wants to stop an opponent. There's no point bringing it up, its like mentioning the NBA rules at a Harlem Globe Trotters game or OSHA in a Three Stooges movie.

237 "I think 90% of the "repeal the 19th" is either trolling or exasperated exaggeration. It is difficult to overstate how horrified men are at seeing so many women go "akshually murdering all your babies isn't so bad"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 08, 2026 11:53 AM (K32Fz)"

I don't expect anyone to make a serious effort to repeal it, but out of all of the women in my circle of my close acquaintances, most had stated they'd nuke the 19th if you presented them a magical button to do so. The last couple of holdouts agreed agreed after this whole Clancy trial clusterfuck. This isn't men nagging them into it - I'm talking about unprompted declarations.

It is hard to overstate how furious these women are at feeling the need to take that position, but ... All of my people are escapees from blue shitholes, or have watched their institutions get razed by dangerhairs and cat ladies. And they've all watched these freaks try to go after their kids and flood our towns with criminals. They have a burning hatred for the AWFLs and the damage they've done.

238 >I think he also loses money on cattle

Posted by: Kindltot
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oh yeah he was gonna be a cowboy or something

239 Hell, while we're at it, take away the votes from all unmarried and/or nonworking women and men.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Equal application of the law to both sexes, or no application at all.

240 Don't worry. China will save you by forcing you to buy cheap missiles that fail in launch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:05 PM (qE8uT

Carney was just on.

We're apparently going to make Canada stronger by blowing our economic brains all across the room.

Sweet.

241 I'd give up my right to vote if AWFLs were nuked from space. 100% immediately.

242 Do you now advocate for Trump doing the exact same thing because it's in service to a goal you support?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 12:00 PM (PGK1w)

There are those that believe that allying themselves with the Devil will give them great powers to do good.

243 240 Carney was just on.

We're apparently going to make Canada stronger by blowing our economic brains all across the room.

Sweet.

Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 12:07 PM (Sco7b)

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"Splooge."
-like 70% of Canada

244 And condemned them up one side and down the other"

And that slowed what, exactly?

Posted by: man at September 08, 2026 12:02 PM (cGjQu)

Nothing.

So Trump should do it too, yes? I just want you to be clear.

You're calling on President Trump to ignore the law in order to pursue a goal you support. Nevermind the moral and ethical concerns there, but we're also like seven minutes away from Midterms which could very easily end in multiple impeachment trials.

245 FWIW, nurse speaks wisdom. Again.

246 I make my own friends. And I don’t have to justify TO ANYONE why they are my friend.

While I agree in principle, I think you would have the integrity to say "but I don't like this about them" or "that thing they said was crazy and I disagree"

247 Carney was just on.

We're apparently going to make Canada stronger by blowing our economic brains all across the room.

Sweet.
Posted by: Stateless - keeping 15 year Ralphy happy and alive. Puppy at heart at September 08, 2026 12:07 PM (Sco7b)

Carney is the best possible salesman that the Alberta Independence movement could wish for.

248 244 but we're also like seven minutes away from Midterms which could very easily end in multiple impeachment trials.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 12:08 PM (PGK1w)

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With a majority of one, Jeffries will announce the impeachment subcommittee before the next Congress is seated, no matter what.

Empty, pointless theater is all Congress is good for, and with a bare majority in one chamber and nothing in the Senate but bitter disappointment, he has to deliver something to his base.

249 They have a burning hatred for the AWFLs and the damage they've done.
==
You shall not suffer a witch to live - or something like that...
Hmm, wonder what prompted that line...

250 WaPo

Courts & Law
Lindsay Clancy's attorney makes public pleas for Trump pardon
Kevin Reddington also said he hope to arrange an agreement with prosecutors that would be "acceptable to both sides."
Today at 10:10 am

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NO

And it's BS.

251 Canadians will get a good deal on a jumping BYD car.

252 Best thing is to institutionalize them, put them on a gurney and roll them to the end of the hall. They go quiet after a couple of days.

So, the Scandanavian Model then

253 You're calling on President Trump to ignore the law "

Que? Yeah, sure. Run with that.

*sigh

254 Empty, pointless theater is all Congress is good for, and with a bare majority in one chamber and nothing in the Senate but bitter disappointment, he has to deliver something to his base.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 08, 2026 12:09 PM (qE8uT)

Correct.

Which is why it's politically retarded to demand Trump ACTUALLY break some laws to do a Thing You Want.

255 >>> My wife said the other day (I think we were discussing the Clancy case) that she would gladly give up her right to vote if it would also be taken away from liberal white women. Posted by: Bulg at September 08, 2026 11:55 AM (77rzZ)

I refuse to give up my right to vote if a sex pest, dog shocking degenerate like Hasan Piker gets to retain his. Immigrated here and given a cushy nepo life by his uncle Chenk, yet hates America. Find a way to rescind the votes of everyone who truly hates this country and roots for its downfall, and maybe we'll talk.

I've researched that era so heavily, and the people advocating to repeal the 19th have no idea how badly women were treated as chattel before they got the vote. No idea. You were completely at the mercy of the men in your life, you had very little autonomy unless a man deigned to give it to you. Not every man was like John Adams, who revered his wife and viewed her as his equal.

256 TJM , went to mow lawn. The answer to your question is to get Congress to act to end as many social engineering programs as possible. Now I have to go play center field for the Yankees

257 The 2028 primary has started here. You can tell because the knives come out.

258 We're apparently going to make Canada stronger by blowing our economic brains all across the room.

Carney is a sock puppet for China.

259 They tried this idea in Sweden. It didn’t work. You have to convince women that being a mother is a good, even a noble thing.

260 254 Correct.

Which is why it's politically retarded to demand Trump ACTUALLY break some laws to do a Thing You Want.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 08, 2026 12:11 PM (PGK1w)

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I'm still hoping for Jeffries gets his majority of one, and one Democrat dies peacefully in his sleep before Congress is seated.

261 Women are slaves to their emotions and must be protected
Clancy is not responsible for the murder because hormones control

pic.twitter.com/k9Ueisg8HL

262 Oh, let's take a peak over at the UK:

Also WaPo -
Citing ‘ethnic cleansing,’ U.K. bars imports from Israeli settlements in West Bank
Numerous other European countries immediately pledged support for the effort, which prompted Israel to close Britain’s consulate in Jerusalem. By Steve Hendrix and Lior Soroka, 27 minutes ago

263 Ugh. VP Vance told the Michigan Arab to keep his wife's "name out of his mouth."

I hate it when adults use millennial-talk. It's puerile.

Try this: "the next time you talk any shit about my wife, I'll make you pay for it, and I ain't hardly halfway fucking with you, boy."

264 Glenn Beck? He's a massive American History collection junkie.
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Met him once. Gave him a WWII Armed Forces Hymnal. I was told later that Beck, sotto voce, sang a few on the plane home.

265 Nood!

266 256 TJM , went to mow lawn. The answer to your question is to get Congress to act to end as many social engineering programs as possible. Now I have to go play center field for the Yankees

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 08, 2026 12:11 PM (v6vok)

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Until then, the programs will exist with money that the executive must spend.

So, the only practical question is how should the administration spend the money?

267 =======

I'm still hoping for Jeffries gets his majority of one, and one Democrat dies peacefully in his sleep before Congress is seated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films
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Wouldn't it be better to win the house?

268 @232 Mongolian doesn't have much else to do but screw and try not to freeze to death

269 Carney is the best possible salesman that the Alberta Independence movement could wish for.
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He is a one man event horizon for charisma. He enters a room, and everything turns dull, grey and muted.

Good luck Canada.

270 267 Wouldn't it be better to win the house?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 08, 2026 12:13 PM (6T7Go)

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Not for the lulz.

271 Hell, while we're at it, take away the votes from all unmarried and/or nonworking women and men.

From all men and women who don't own land / pay taxes.

272 my problem with the "repeal the 19th amendment" thing is that there are at least as many idiotic dudes out there who vote stupidly and are destroying our culture as women. The women only accomplish what they do because men either assist or step aside and let it happen.

You cannot condemn only women here. If we men would step up and show some leadership, if we would do the right thing instead of being lazy and cringy and simping, then both bad men and bad women would have less impact.

273 @232 Mongolian doesn't have much else to do but screw and try not to freeze to death

Posted by: Smell the Glove
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https://tinyurl.com/bdmmkdnw

274 Women are slaves to their emotions and must be protected
Clancy is not responsible for the murder because hormones control
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Yo, how can we get in on this hormone dealio?

275
I'm still hoping for Jeffries gets his majority of one

Will the DSA vote for Jeffries to be speaker?

276 You cannot condemn only women here.
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How many men have gotten off or received reduced sentences because of some hormonal related malady?

Zero.

277 Good luck Canada.

They had a final shot at at least slowing the destruction but thew a tantrum at Trump calling Canada the 51st state and voted against sanity. It is very difficult to take them seriously as a country.

278 "Posted by: LizLem at September 08, 2026 12:11 PM (Eng1Z)"

To be clear, *I* do not advocate repealing the 19th, but the position of the ladies I know that do is basically that regressing would be preferrable to progressing to 1917 v2.0. What the progs have in mind is far worse than any pre suffrage shittiness.

I think long term the AWFL problem can be fixed with sufficient -and extreme - social pressure. But the government and courts we have likely won't let us exert that pressure, at least not on this side of a massive seizure of violence that likely would not see many AWFL survivors anyways.

279 oh yeah he was gonna be a cowboy or something
Posted by: Don Black, reminding you that a swim move can defeat a double team at September 08, 2026 12:07 PM (ZxPkt)

Every one loses money on cattle, I think a rancher gets 15 cents of the dollar paid for beef at the store.
The problem is the market is structured so the rancher has little say in how or what is done in raising beef, it is all directed by the slaughterhouses and the brokers who resell it.

280 You cannot condemn only women here. If we men would step up and show some leadership, if we would do the right thing instead of being lazy and cringy and simping, then both bad men and bad women would have less impact.
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Well don't assume all women are willing to be "led". I think the divide is very real. Its a cultural thing. A lot of people have no use for model that made western civilization possible. And some people flat out hate it. The counter narrative has been empowered by the media, and subsidized by social policy. Gigachads aren't going to deprogram that portion of society by themselves. The culture has to change and so does social policy.

281 oops

282 From all men and women who don't own land / pay taxes.
Posted by: Ian S.

You might want to check the political demographics of landowners before you make that your qualification.

Employed childless leftists may have more spare money with which to buy real estate than employed right-wing family men do.

283 "Following the law, of course. However, I will still probably drive 80mph in a 75mph speed zone."

I'm guessing you drive 80 in a 35mph zone. Cuz you're special!

284 Every one loses money on cattle, I think a rancher gets 15 cents of the dollar paid for beef at the store.
The problem is the market is structured so the rancher has little say in how or what is done in raising beef, it is all directed by the slaughterhouses and the brokers who resell it.
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After one season of watching clarkson's farm, its pretty obvious that the farmers get screwed at every turn by the middle men.

285 Carney is a sock puppet for China The Bank of England and the ECB.

FIFY Christopher

286 Also WaPo -
Citing ‘ethnic cleansing,’ U.K. bars imports from Israeli settlements in West Bank
Numerous other European countries immediately pledged support for the effort, which prompted Israel to close Britain’s consulate in Jerusalem. By Steve Hendrix and Lior Soroka, 27 minutes ago
Posted by: L - No nic... at September 08, 2026 12:13 PM (NFX2v)

And in citing this, Israel is now backing the Argentine claim over the Malvinas.

287 "Employed childless leftists may have more spare money with which to buy real estate than employed right-wing family men do.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 08, 2026 12:22 PM (vJrRc)"

Sure... but WHY can so many fewer families afford homes now?

That sort of imbalance was a lot more tenable when governments enforced order with strong arms and sharp things made of rare and expensive materials. With drones, guns, and explosives, not so much. Don't assume that sort of arrangement is stable.

Let's boil down most of this comment thread to the core issue: neurotic, mostly childless busybodies are threatening the families and livihoods of many millions of hardworking normies. That never ends well.

288 Get RID of these damn pop up adds !!
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at September 08, 2026 11:30 AM (zqeQL)

What popup ads?? I see no popup ads, nor do the majority of Morons here. Download Brave and use it.

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The Morning Report — 9/ 8 /26

Good morning kids. Hope you all had a relaxing Labor Day holiday... With that in mind,I give you the always inspiring words of the great Ronald Reagan on his final Labor Day in office back in September of 1988.

We salute working people because they have built our land with skill, energy, and resourcefulness, transforming raw materials into a shining edifice of freedom and prosperity. On Labor Day we recognize these achievements and reflect on the meaning and dignity of work and on the values it protects and strengthens — the values we as a nation hold most dear.. . Let us always remember that so much of what we are, we owe to working men and women.

Today, in spite of everything, we have some outstanding economic news that the Commie propagandists are doing their best to suppress. First, wow!

American manufacturing is on the rebound — and that good news could hardly come at a better time for President Donald Trump, as Republicans gird themselves for the midterm elections just two months from now.

Manufacturing isn’t the only sector that’s on a hiring spree; businesses across the board added 162,000 new jobs in August.

Even The New York Times called the latest employment numbers “zesty.”

The paper quoted T. Rowe Price’s chief US economist, Blerina Uruci: “It’s a very good report . . . And it perhaps shows that financial conditions more broadly are not that tight.”

The workforce participation rate rose as well — which matters, because people who drop out of the labor force are invisible in unemployment rates that only count those who are looking for work... Establishment economists predicted none of this.

You can bet your sweet ass they didn't, and you can bet they were rooting for our economy to completely collapse. And yet we also have this to cheer about:

The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday night that the analysis shows an extremely strong job market for those between 22 and 34 years of age without diplomas from a higher education institution. . . The historically low unemployment rate among this demographic, which rivals lows since 2003, breaks with the rates of unemployment among college-educated peers in the same age window, per the analysis . . .The report comes days after an extremely strong jobs report on Friday, with the United States adding 162,000 jobs in August with unemployment holding at 4.1 percent, the same rate as in July. The report blew past economists’ forecast of just 55,000 jobs and an uptick in unemployment to 4.2 percent.

And with that we have the forces of darkness and evil in the form of the Democrat Party ready as they have been for 200 years set to strike:

After watching Zohran Mamdani upset Andrew Cuomo in last year’s mayoral race, both radicals and relative moderates alike took the hint: Voters are desperate for candidates who speak to the frustration they feel at the gas pump, in the grocery line and after every utility payment. . . Embattled Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer won’t shut up about his conference’s “affordability agenda,” and the progressive caucus in the House is pitching itself using the exact same phrase. “Democrats in Key Senate Races Campaign on Addressing GOP Affordability Crisis, Bringing Down Costs, and Making Life Easier,” crowed the wordy headline of a Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee press release issued on Friday.

In the opening months of their reign, they swiped taxpayers’ credit card for $1.9 trillion. So they swiped again, this time running up a tab of well over $700 billion for what they dubbed the “Inflation Reduction Act.”That’s right, they dumped almost $3 trillion in cold hard cash into the economy under the supposition that would make everyone’s dollar go further.

Supply and demand: What is it? . . . Dismissing them as a hoax is folly. But they’d be well within their rights to remind Americans that Democrats’ only real interest in “affordability” is as a cynical slogan. And that all of their actual ideas undermine it in practice.

Don't be fooled by the feud between the alleged Moderates and the DSA. None of it is about policy. It's about control of the Democrat Party as well as how best to bamboozle the American people into thinking they have their and America's best interests at heart, and not the dismantling of America as founded and replacing it with a degenerate Socialist shit hole as was the fate of much of Europe and the world post the Second World War. Yeah, we won the war but the peace, not so much.

And so now, here's greasy Greaseball Newsom, the likely Democrat nominee for 2028:

Co-host Amna Nawaz asked, “So, let me ask you about how Democrats can win back control of Congress, because it’s been a pretty revealing primary season for the party, right? A reckoning, some have called it, too. You saw how many wins DSA candidates, Democratic Socialist candidates, were able to win, Donavan McKinney in Michigan, Chris Rabb in Pennsylvania, Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, he doesn’t identify as DSA, but was sort of aligned with them. If you have these candidates and this platform that is clearly animating the base, energizing turnout, should more of those ideas be worked into the broader Democratic platform?” Nawaz then cut in to say, “But there seems to be a little distance between some leadership and those DSA candidates.”

Newsom responded, “But not the ideas. We want — I believe in universal healthcare, and I believe in Medicare for All. The party does overwhelmingly, you poll people in the party. So, if it’s about more money in your pocket, lowering costs, it’s about getting money out of politics, and it’s about Medicare for All, I think we’re pretty aligned. It’s about recognizing that we’ve got a planet that is getting hotter and drier, and that we’ve got to address the issue of climate change, and we want energy security, and we want to move off fossil fuels. That’s a DSA position. That’s a mainstream position within the Democratic Party. So, I think, in many ways — it’s just a label. And it’s a familiar — forgive me, you’re talking to the wrong person, it’s such a familiar label to me. We called them progressives. It was the Green Party. I ran against the Green Party. It sounded — the exact same platform 20 years ago, maybe it’s because I’m from the Bay Area, maybe it’s because I’m from California. And I think it’s healthy. I just think it’s — I’m not consumed by this.

And he's supposedly mainstream and moderate. They're all scum, criminals, vermin and tyrants. Poor Ronald Reagan is rolling in his grave. And if we're not careful, we'll be spinning right along with him as the last tiny vestiges of America as founded are utterly annihilated.

On that positive note, I bid you all to . . .

Have a good day.

ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY
• Victor Davis Hanson: The socialists didn’t radicalize the Democrat Party; they simply inherited a party that had already radicalized itself.
  The Democratic Chicken—or the Socialist Egg?

CIVIL WAR 2.0, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION
• Betsy McCaughey: The biggest disgrace of the 25th anniversary of 9/11.
  Time to Defeat the Legal Jihad Against 9/11 Families
  
• After years of insisting that names are fluid, the left suddenly discovers tradition when Trump picks the name.
  What’s in a Name – Trump Style
  
• Democrats have made no secret of it: if they retake the House in 2026, impeachment goes back on the table. They don’t care if President Donald Trump hasn’t broken any laws; they will do it because the base wants them to...
  Democrats Don't Need a Reason to Impeach Trump. They Just Will.

  "DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST/GLOBALIST BORDER BLOODBATH," AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY

• United States Attorney for the Northern District of Texas Ryan Raybould announced in a Friday press release that Lukman Owolabi Ganiyu, an ex- senior Immigration Services Officer with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services was arrested along with his associate, Adeniyi Akeem Somoye. Both were charged with conspiracy to receive illegal gratuities by a public official.
  Federal Immigration Official Arrested for Taking Bribes to Expedite Citizenship Applications

  THE IRAN CONFLICT, MOU/"PEACE DEAL" (aftermath??)

• The official told Al Jazeera that the assessment followed a months-long U.S. Navy operation to clear Iranian mines from the strait, adding that Washington expects shipping traffic to increase and remains satisfied with the amount of oil and gas currently moving through the waterway.
  U.S.: Strait of Hormuz ‘Fully Open, Under U.S. Navy Control’ as Iran Threatens ‘New Maritime Exclusion Zone’
  
• The South Korean government said on Friday that “nothing has been decided” about a potential deployment to the Strait of Hormuz to protect international shipping against Iranian piracy and terrorism, but some options were under discussion, including sending troops, maritime patrol aircraft, and a support ship.
  Iran Threatens South Korea with ‘Serious Consequences’ for Deploying to Strait of Hormuz

  ISRAEL vs IRAN & GAZA/HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH . . . AND LEFTISTS. . . The U.N... AND HISTORY

• ‘They ignored the obvious, glaring linkages between UNRWA staff and Hamas,’ a Western diplomat tells the Free Beacon
  EXCLUSIVE: UN Sought to ‘Cover-Up’ UNRWA Staff’s Role in Oct 7 Attack and Ties to Hamas by Undermining Internal Probe, US Watchdog Finds

  THE GREAT SOMALIAN SIMOLEON SWINDLE

• The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) said he was the fifth “Most Wanted Fraudster.”
  ... FBI: Suspect in $600,000 SNAP Fraud Scheme Arrested in India

  DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE

• A government-led rebuilding of Ground Zero was plagued by politics, bad ideas, and delays, even as the private sector drove New York’s broader comeback.
  After 9/11: The Folly and the Glory
  
• Whatever the administration’s real actions turn out to be, somewhere past the sixty day mark when these orders might turn into policies, Congress continues to just sit there like a speed bump.
  Trump’s Orders On Ranchers Might Be A Badly Needed Step In The Right Direction

  FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH

• The vice president seems to have made his decision.
  JD Vance Dishonored Himself for Tucker Carlson
  
• Larry Elder: Is it a warning or a threat?
  Hasan Piker to Dems: Don’t Quit Me
  
• On the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange on February 19, 2009: “We’re thinking of having a Chicago Tea Party in July. All you capitalists that want to show up to Lake Michigan, I’m gonna start organizing.”
  Rick Santelli, Whose Epic Rant Launched the Tea Party Movement, to Retire
  * * * * *

• “… AI right now is just going to make a few billionaires into trillionaires while making millions of Americans poorer, less safe and less free.”
  Sanders’ Bill Threatens US AI Developers With ‘Corporate Death Penalty,’ Prison Time
  
• Axios reports that the three additions bring a mix of party ties and tech industry résumés. Jessica Schumer, the daughter of Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) will oversee policy and partnerships across the Northeast. She previously ran Amazon’s public policy work in New York and served as chief of staff at the Council of Economic Advisers under the Obama administration.
  Sam Altman’s OpenAI Hires Chuck Schemer’s Daughter to Influence State-Level AI Policies

  WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM

• The mayor's insistence on attending comes days after he handed a symbolic 9/11 pen to an aide who defended an al Qaeda operative.
  Mamdani To Attend 9/11 Ceremony Despite Awkward Ties To Terrorist Sympathizers
  
• “Many steeds of war.”
  The Trojan Horse, or, Millions of Muslims in Our Midst
  
• Rula Jebreal’s slur against Hakeem Jeffries reflects the racism of the prophet of Islam.
  Racist Muslim Journalist Was Just Imitating Muhammad
  
• Silicon Valley tools. Seventh-century ambitions.
  MyDeen: The App Building Islam’s Next Generation

  OFFICIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY/LEFTIST-ENDORSED ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-CHRISTIANITY, PLUS VARIOUS & SUNDRY GODLESS HEATHENS

• “There seems to be a lot of animosity and conflict in our community right now, and I see the Nativity as an invitation to everyone to pause, think, repent, and realize our common humanity. The Nativity is a wonderful symbol of that ….”
  In Brighton (NY), a Nativity Scene Becomes a Constitutional Fight

  AMERICA AND THE WORLD IMPRISONED: CHINESE CORONAVIRUS FICTIONS AND FACTS

• Army Physician Dr. Theresa Long said she’s looking into whether 2,544 unverified deaths among service members.
  RFK Jr., Hegseth Assign Army Physician to Investigate Adverse Covid Vaccine Effects on Troops

  THE ECONOMY, STUPID

• American manufacturing is on the rebound — and that good news could hardly come at a better time for President Donald Trump, as Republicans gird themselves for the midterm elections just two months from now. Manufacturing isn’t the only sector that’s on a hiring spree; businesses across the board added 162,000 new jobs in August. Even The New York Times called the latest employment numbers “zesty.”
  Trumponomics triumphs in US jobs report — just in time for the midterms
  
• The historically low unemployment rate among this demographic, which rivals lows since 2003, breaks with the rates of unemployment among college-educated peers in the same age window, per the analysis:
  Report: Unemployment Rate Among Non-College Grads Reaches One of Lowest Points in Past 23 Years
  
• Their obsession with engineering a utopian (or dystopian) society into existence by way of arbitrary, top-down edicts threatens to make life still more expensive for their weary constituents.
  Democrats’ faux affordability agenda will cost Americans big time
  
• Buying a house, raising a family, spending Saturdays at kids’ sporting events – every aspect of normal life is touched by private equity.
  From Cradle To Krispy Kreme To Grave, Private Equity Is Making Everyone’s Life Worse
  
• The impression exists that Volkswagen Group’s consolidation course represents less a controlled downsizing than an internal corporate collapse -- the twilight of an economic era.
  Does Volkswagen have a Future?

  RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, JUNK SCIENCE, LYSENKOISM

• The announcement follows recent developments at “Sea Lion,” a joint British-Israeli offshore oil and gas project about 140 miles north of the Falkland Islands that plans to begin its first oil operations in early 2028, according to one of the companies involved in the project.
  Argentine Foreign Minister: Govt’s Goal Is to ‘Prevent Hydrocarbon Operations’ at Falkland Islands
  
• If saving nature requires destroying nature on an industrial scale, perhaps the first thing that needs recycling is our definition of environmentalism.<
  The Green Energy Paradox: Saving Nature by Destroying It

  CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY

• “When asked about the previous fundraising campaign and the need for additional funds, Dominique Alexander, president of Next Generation Action Network, declined to discuss how the earlier donations were used.”
  Karmelo Anthony’s Family Asks Public for Another $250,000 Despite 2025 Fundraising Haul
  
• Glenn H. Reynolds: Reddington, in an unhinged press conference after a mistrial was called, accused the dissident of stealing his fellow jurors’ time: “They know that they were robbed by one man for whatever his agenda was, who stole seven weeks of the life of these other jurors.”
  Lindsay Clancy’s lawyer bashed America’s juries — and battered another pillar of justice

  EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT

• Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced that the IRS will review and revoke the tax-exempt status of private universities that use racial preferences in admissions, scholarships, loans and athletics.
  Trump, GOP turn up the heat to ensure fairness, purge wokism on campuses

  THE 2020 AND OTHER ELECTION HEISTS & AFTERMATH

• California already knows who is supposed to vote. Only citizens. Only living people. Only the person whose name is on the roll. What the state has refused to do is check.
  California Still Needs Prop 39 (meh, it needs a U-235 enema - jjs)

  DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY, INSANITY

• You may have heard about the alleged assassination attempt against Ohio Democrat gubernatorial candidate Amy Acton over the weekend.
  Amy Acton’s ‘Assassination Attempt’ Narrative Is Falling Apart

  POLITICS

• But the paradox is that even though he’s nobody’s first choice, he’s an awful lot of Republicans’ second or third choice. Because, yes, in D.C., everyone might hate him (and perhaps for good reason) — but in the heartland, most MAGA voters and conservatives respect him, appreciate him, and trust the genuineness of his convictions.
  Don’t Laugh, Don’t Smirk, Don’t Count Him Out: Ted Cruz Could Beat JD Vance in 2028
  
• I don’t think there’s a great — I just — I think it’s the natural — it’s the — how — it’s reflected in Kucinich and just aspects and component parts of our party that we’ve always had, and it’s a healthy dialectic within the party.”
  Newsom: DSA Ideas Are Being Worked Into Dem Platform (Is Greaseball unaware of the New Deal?! - jjs)
  
• Hanson does not emote; nor does he lavishly praise Trump the way an enthusiastic rally-goer would. He is as close to an objective observer as you can find in the world of commentary.
  The Counterrevolution: Victor Davis Hanson Surveys Trump's Fall and Rise

  FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL

• Six Indonesian volcanoes erupt simultaneously this week, including the famous “Child of Krakatau.”
  2026 Is Becoming the Year the Earth Reminded Humanity Who Is in Charge
  
• Bukele, Milei, Kast—and now De la Espriella: The search for a post-progressive political model.
  The Charm of the New Transatlantic Axis of the Right
  
• The results of a German election shock the continent.
  Springtime for Saxony?
  
• A government continues its war on its own people.
  UK Police Pepper Spray Portsmouth Locals for Trying to Stop an Illegal Invasion

  THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT"

• The real architect of World War III isn’t Putin. It’s Xi Jinping—and Russia’s war in Ukraine may be giving Beijing exactly what it needs.
  We Are in World War Xi

  DEFENSE, MILITARY, SECURITY AFFAIRS

• While U.S. Central Command attracts most of the attention and glory right now because of the Iranian conflict, the U.S. military in this half of the world is also engaged in important operations. Criminal cartels and their drug trafficking operations have been responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans.
  U.S. Interdicts Drug Traffickers’ Floating Refueling Station
  
• Judith Miller: A discussion with former NYPD director of intelligence analysis Mitchell Silber
  Protecting New York from Terror Today

  ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY

• While there have been no reported issues with the Mars rover Perseverance, and while it appears to be functioning normally as it moves around the hilly barren terrain west of Jezero Crater, there appears to be some sort of indecisiveness in how the science team has been operating the rover for more than a year, with an almost complete black-out of updates to explain what they are doing.
  What is going on with Perseverance?

  FEMINAZISM, TRANSGENDER PSYCHOSIS, HOMOSEXUALIZATION, WAR ON MASCULINITY/NORMALCY

• Gloria Steinem was the beautiful face of an ugly ideology.
  The Radical Girl Next Door

  CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE

• "Young women have been taught that patriotism is embarrassing and contempt for America is a badge of intelligence."
  America Needs A New ‘Rosie The Riveter’ For Its 250th Birthday
  
• This is how it always ends.
  After Woke and Green Rebrand, Jaguar Cuts 4,000 Jobs
  
• Thank You For Sharing exposes how the mental health industry thrives off of telling people that their worst behaviors can be excused because of ‘illness.’
  America’s Obsession With Mental Illness Is A Mental Illness
  
• What happens when these Boomers can no longer hold on to the reigns of power? When they are just too old and need to hand it off? Will there be anyone to take their place?
  Boomers just won't quit—but they should
  
• Christian Toto: 'Raging Bull' scribe to use A.I. to fire back against reluctant performers
  Did Paul Schrader Strike Blow Against Woke Actors?
  
• Erwin is to be congratulated for bucking the trend of recent years for denigrating Washington.
  Movie Review: ‘Young Washington’

  HITHER & YON

• In the late 1960s, a boy left Havana in the middle of the night, and days later, he was standing on Merritt Island, Florida.
  A Young Immigrant’s Poem to America
  
• So, in lieu of an editorial, we present the words Ronald Reagan delivered on his last Labor Day as president.
  A Salute To Working People

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