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Sunday Overnight Open Thread - December 7, 2025 [Doof]
Howdy Hordelings! Time for the Sunday ONT. Still plenty of time to get your Christmas tree - if that's a thing you do. If you don't have yours yet, go get it! Then you can get to "drinkorating" (H/T to our 'ette friend DDS for introducing me to that term).
Tree or no tree, step on in and see what awaits!
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A Date Which Still Lives in Infamy
December 7 is Pearl Harbor Day. If Joe Biden were still POTUS, he'd likely try to quote the famous speech from FDR and say something like "December 7, 1941 - a date which - you know the thing!"
We do know the thing. But do you know that the original line from FDR was "a date which will live in world history"? If you didn't, you do now!
FDR’s “Day of Infamy” Speech - Crafting a Call to Arms
In the early afternoon of December 7, 1941, Franklin D. Roosevelt was just finishing lunch in his oval study on the second floor of the White House, preparing to work on his stamp album, when his telephone rang.
The White House operator announced that Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox was on the line and insisted on talking with him. Roosevelt took the call.
The Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, just before 8 a.m. Hawaii time, Secretary Knox told the President. Harry Hopkins, a top aide who was with Roosevelt at the time, could not believe the report. But Roosevelt did. "It was just the kind of unexpected thing the Japanese would do. At the very time they were discussing peace in the Pacific, they were plotting to overthrow it," he said.
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Roosevelt decided to go before Congress the next day to report on the attack and ask for a declaration of war. In early evening, he called in his secretary, Grace Tully. "Sit down, Grace," he said. "I'm going before Congress tomorrow, and I'd like to dictate my message. It will be short."
Short it was. But it was to become one of the most famous speeches of the twentieth century, giving birth to one of the most famous phrases of the century.
"Yesterday, December seventh, 1941, a date which will live in world history," he began as Tully took down the words, "the United States was simultaneously and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan."
Biographer Nathan Miller recalls: "He inhaled deeply on his cigarette, blew out the smoke, and began dictating in the same calm tone he used to deal with his mail. He enunciated the words incisively and slowly, carefully specifying each punctuation mark and new paragraph. Running little more than five hundred words, the message was dictated without hesitation or second thoughts."
Tully typed up what Roosevelt had dictated, and the President went to work on this first draft by hand.
On draft No. 1, Roosevelt changed "a date which will live in world history" to "a date which will live in infamy," providing the speech its most famous phrase and giving birth to the term, "day of infamy," which December 7, 1941, is often called.
A few words later, he changed his report that the United States of America was "simultaneously and deliberately attacked" to "suddenly and deliberately attacked." At the end of the first sentence, he wrote the words, "without warning," but later crossed them out.
Thus that first historic sentence—the one that is usually quoted from the speech—was born: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by the naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan."
Check out the whole thing. Interesting to read more about the speech-writing process.
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Happy Birthday to Two Sports Legends
One of the all-time greats from a totally different (and much better, in my opinion) era of baseball - Johnny Bench turns 78 today.
How many of you remember his kid-friendly show from Saturdays back in the day?
Or how about "no runs, no drips, no errors"?
Throw up a hand if you can remember when Johnny Bench was out there spraying Krylon on every fucking object he encountered.
According to the arrest report, Voke told deputies he would place his phone with the camera exposed on the floor of a bathroom stall, aiming it toward adjacent stalls in an attempt to record unsuspecting male victims. He stated the videos involved adults only.
Seeds of native plants destined for national parks are sitting in a warehouse instead of being grown in fields. And across the West, National Park Service staff won’t know which birds are breeding in the parks this spring. Both of these problems stem from a deluge of grant cuts that halted nonprofit conservation work with the Interior Department earlier this fall.
It all started on the morning of Sept. 23, when emails began landing in the inboxes of at least six environmental nonprofit organizations. By the end of the day, 30 federal awards worth $3.5 million had vanished from one organization alone, including several from the Park Service, according to Melanie Gisler, southwest branch director for the Institute of Applied Ecology. The only reason given was that each project no longer “effectuates the priorities” of the federal government, Gisler told SFGATE.
Other groups, including the Institute for Bird Populations and the Bird Conservancy of the Rockies, received similar notifications that day — halting long-term bird counts in national parks across the West and other bird studies. The Institute for Bird Populations received no explanation beyond the same vague language about the administration’s priorities; Bird Conservancy of the Rockies declined to comment.
Thus endeth the "just the facts" portion of the article. Now let's let the bias flow!
Online, Doug Burgum, the Interior secretary, attributed the changes to a cost-cutting initiative by the Department of Governmental Efficiency, or DOGE. “@Interior saved American taxpayers MILLIONS of dollars today by cutting nearly 80 grants for wasteful environmental groups,” he wrote in a post on X, resharing a news article accusing the groups of doing diversity, equity and inclusion work with federal funds. Karoline Leavitt, White House Press Secretary, and DOGE amplified the message.
But these environmental groups dispute that assessment: Simply put, they were growing plants and counting birds. “None of the grants we were working on involved [diversity, equity, inclusion and justice],” Gisler said. “It was on-the-ground conservation work.” The organization did make an action plan for a more diverse and inclusive workplace in 2021.
Rodney Siegel, the executive director of the Institute for Bird Populations, said they did not have an explicit DEI policy. “I have no idea what they are referring to,” he said.
Federal agencies, including the Park Service, regularly work with nonprofit partners to do important work like monitoring wildlife populations or replanting burned areas. The Interior Department provides the funding, and in turn, groups like the Institute for Applied Ecology plan and execute the details with even more contractors: in this instance, crews collecting seeds, replanting them in fields, growing them and harvesting even more seeds. Federal funds prop up work that otherwise wouldn’t get done by limited Park Service staff.
How dare the funding get cut! Lemme see if I get this right. Just because an organization has a DEI plan in place and places importance on DEI things - doesn't mean the WORK is DEI-related. Did I do that right? Oh, and check out the whole article to get the author's super objective take on how "important" this work is.
Anyway, apologies for the lengthy blockquotes there. The article just really bugged me so I figured I'd see if it bugs you too.
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'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)
It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.
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With Christmas lights twinkling brighter than fireflies on a July night, our First Lady has been serving up looks that are equal parts elegant and evergreen. She knows exactly how to dress for the season!
The week kicked off with a bang when Melania unveiled the breathtaking 2025 White House Christmas decorations: 51 trees, 75 wreaths, and enough gold stars to make the Milky Way jealous. It’s all a loving nod to American traditions and the nation’s upcoming 250th anniversary. But let’s talk about the coat that stopped us in our tracks. Melania stepped out in a stunning Burberry Bird Button Cashmere Wool Military Coat—first in a rich military green, then in sleek black for the official preview video. That structured silhouette, gleaming gold buttons, and perfectly cinched waist? Swoon! She paired the green version with her Christian Louboutin Eleonor Botta 100 suede boots in Brown Sweater and a dark brown Ralph Lauren Collection cashmere turtleneck. It’s the kind of look that says, “Yes, you may absolutely wear your fanciest wool coat with boots for a weekend stroll.”
Those same Louboutin boots made another appearance when Melania thanked the Presidential and First Lady correspondence volunteers, travel volunteers, and Executive Residence staff. This time she wore them with a grey melange Ralph Lauren double-faced wool shirt jacket, the same dark brown cashmere turtleneck, and tailored brown leggings—effortless, polished, and ready for anything. This is Melania’s magic: letting the season take center stage while she glows quietly beside it. It’s understated glamour we’d all love to channel at our own holiday open houses—practical enough for wrangling kids (or Secret Service), yet pretty enough to turn heads at the punch bowl.
The National Christmas Tree Lighting was pure enchantment under the Ellipse lights. Melania wore a timeless double-breasted coat from Chanel’s Fall/Winter 2017-2018 Airspace Collection. Some critics might call it “safe” (pish-posh—haters gonna hate), but it was festive without fuss. She stood there radiating that megawatt smile, every inch the gracious hostess.
Friday, Melania visited patients and their families at Children’s National Hospital in Washington, D.C., reading stories to the children. If that’s not the spirit of the season wrapped in wool, I don’t know what is. She wore a striking black calf-hair Nour Hammour Althea belted coat with Christian Louboutin Kate 100 Red Lizzy pumps—a pop of holiday red.
And just when we thought we’d reached peak fabulous, Melania attended an intimate evening performance by Andrea Bocelli in the East Room. She glided in wearing a black Valentino tulle-trimmed, scalloped silk-crepe midi dress paired with Roger Vivier Trompette patent-leather pumps with metal buckles—sleek sophistication personified.
Whew, what a whirlwind week for our First Lady. Whether you’re decking your own halls or simply daydreaming over eggnog, take a page from Melania’s book: keep it classic, keep it kind, and always add a dash of dazzle
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Thanks, Piper!
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DJ Doof - Guess The Theme
Difficulty level 3 out of 5
What's the common thread / common meaning / common leitmotif?
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Posted by: Piper at December 07, 2025 10:06 PM (OoFl2)
13Christmas tree… If you don't have yours yet, go get it!
Daughter and her hub brought us a nice tree today. A little over six feet, balsam. They got it set up for us. Actually remembered this year to put the tree skirt over the stand before putting the tree in. Waiting for it to fall before drinkorating it.
Having a firebomb in the house is not my favorite part of Christmas. But it's pretty, and fresh, and we've got it watered, so with any luck it won't be too crispy by Christmas morning. Or Epiphany, when we take it down… if it survives that long.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 10:08 PM (9ipOP)
17 The Contemporary Era committee of the Baseball Hall of Fame elected Jeff Kent for induction in 2026 with 14 votes among the 16 members. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens got less than 5 votes each.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:08 PM (tgvbd)
18According to the arrest report, Voke told deputies he would place his phone with the camera exposed on the floor of a bathroom stall, aiming it toward adjacent stalls in an attempt to record unsuspecting male victims. He stated the videos involved adults only.
It's so nice to read about an old-fashioned traditional depraved pervert with no political agenda for a change.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 10:08 PM (8DR9B)
19 Boot season. My favorite.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 10:06 PM (41CYW)
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Yum
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:09 PM (tgvbd)
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15 Piper, great job on the couture! Love the double breasted coat.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025
Thank you! Me too! It’s on my Christmas list. 🤣
Posted by: Piper at December 07, 2025 10:10 PM (OoFl2)
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14 Christmas idea for TRex:
https://shorturl.at/syTHq
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Let's not forget about this for the Dino Christmas. https://tinyurl.com/ysxv42ak
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 10:11 PM (41CYW)
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I'm lucky, I can just walk out the back yard into a monster state run wildlife area and find a suitable Christmas tree. We'll see.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 10:11 PM (cYBz/)
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Nobody trash talked like Larry Bird. Nobody could back it up like Larry, either. Except for MJ.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2025 10:11 PM (0CU3H)
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Having a firebomb in the house is not my favorite part of Christmas. But it's pretty, and fresh, and we've got it watered, so with any luck it won't be too crispy by Christmas morning. Or Epiphany, when we take it down… if it survives that long.
Posted by: mindful webworker - baby, how you jingle my bells at December 07, 2025 10:07 PM (yqA/D)
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For about four years, we used to go to a local tree farm, cut our own tree, and buy the commemorative ornament.
But we eventually went to an artificial one, due to allergens related to mold and stuff. The nice thing is that one can plan out the lights and ornaments in exacting detail, since it's the same tree as last year.
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Howdy everyone! Thank you, Doggo for launching for me tonight.
I had ulterior motives. If memory serves, one year ago today was your first night hosting an ONT. Figured maybe I should delegate some work to ya to help mark the occasion. Happy anniversary, brother!
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:12 PM (BBMJX)
28And just when we thought we’d reached peak fabulous, Melania attended an intimate evening performance by Andrea Bocelli in the East Room. She glided in wearing a black Valentino tulle-trimmed, scalloped silk-crepe midi dress paired with Roger Vivier Trompette patent-leather pumps
Glided? Such a nice contrast from DOKTOR Jill Biden clomping into the room wearing fishnets and hooker shoes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 10:13 PM (8DR9B)
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It's so nice to read about an old-fashioned traditional depraved pervert with no political agenda for a change.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 10:08 PM (8DR9B)
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I like that he only spied on adults. He's a perv, but he has standards!
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DOOF!
I hope you wore a tie tonight (even a clip on).
Piper is here after all🙂.
I'm in my best jeans...
All kidding aside, thanks Piper for making the Sunday ONT classy. I always look forward to this!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2025 10:13 PM (3pxDZ)
Though I do Jill and her great grandma fishnets. NOT.
Posted by: Thanks, Piper and Doof at December 07, 2025 10:14 PM (oftw2)
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Thank you, zoris, TRex, SanFran, all of you gracious awesome people.
Posted by: Piper at December 07, 2025 10:14 PM (OoFl2)
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I had ulterior motives. If memory serves, one year ago today was your first night hosting an ONT. Figured maybe I should delegate some work to ya to help mark the occasion. Happy anniversary, brother!
Posted by: Doof
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Sneaky. Taking advantage of a tail wagging friendly. Thanks for the ONT and the shout out.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 10:14 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 07, 2025 10:17 PM (sAmhv)
44 Big Don hosts the Kennedy Center honors:
https://is.gd/L4pl9U
FOX ran a clip of him giving a impromtu presser on the red carpet there. He kept going and going, answering all the questions. He loves that.
Poor Melania was having to stand next to him while he was going on and on. You could see the look on her face, "Wrap it up, honey!" He'd start to walk off, then someone would hit him with another question, and he'd have to go off on that. I half expected Melania to just whop him.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 10:18 PM (w6EFb)
45Help me out here. Which clause of the Constitution makes counting birds a function of the federal government?
The Good and Plenty Clause?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 10:18 PM (8DR9B)
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22 Let's not forget about this for the Dino Christmas. https://tinyurl.com/ysxv42ak
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 10:11 PM
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Now THAT's some serious holiday shopping. Well done Doggo! I know JUST the place for it!!
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 10:18 PM (3nLb4)
48Because he destroyed everything with "East" in the name, amirite?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 07, 2025
Everyone wore hard hats in the construction zone.
Posted by: Piper at December 07, 2025 10:13 PM (OoFl2)
LOL, ma'am!
In case anyone didn't get the joke, take a look at the expanded view of the WH at https://bit.ly/4iFKl5S - the East Room is nowhere near the construction area, although the First Lady's office and the Calligraphy Office took it in the shorts.
Nurse would make that calculation in 0.1 sec. Then plug the mugger anyway.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2025 10:18 PM (0CU3H)
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39 Common thread is Southern Rock
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:13 PM (y171U)
Be more specific
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:15 PM (BBMJX)
All from Jax Florida
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:19 PM (y171U)
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Help me out here. Which clause of the Constitution makes counting birds a function of the federal government?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 10:16 PM (3nLb4)
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Apparently there are no state-funded bird-counters and the bird-watcher societies don't have internet access or something.
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You can tell how classy gays are by how much of their sex and jollies goes on in public bathrooms. Cutting holes in toilet partitions is chic. And public turlets are known for their hygiene.
Posted by: The Great Poof at December 07, 2025 10:20 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2025 10:21 PM (3pxDZ)
54 Cutting holes in toilet partitions is chic. And public turlets are known for their hygiene.
Posted by: The Great Poof at December 07, 2025 10:20 PM (oftw2)
'Hi, Gene.'
'Hi, Frank.'
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 10:21 PM (gKDq2)
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Thanks for the fashion report on our lovely FLOTUS, Piper. Love the Ralph Lauren (Lifschitz!).
Listening to Windham Hill winter solstice CDs and reading a biography of US Grant.
My mini Christmas tree is up high on a table and safe from feline predation and hijinks (hopefully). The theme is Yetis.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:21 PM (kpS4V)
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It’s so nice to have a First Lady who doesn’t wear short skirts and fish nets.
Jeebus. Jill was a hot mess.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 10:22 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 07, 2025 10:22 PM (vL98c)
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I wonder what the last thing was that went through Yamamoto's mind before he augured in over Bougainville. Besides a bamboo stalk, I mean.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 10:22 PM (8DR9B)
59DOOF!
I hope you wore a tie tonight (even a clip on).
Piper is here after all🙂.
I'm in my best jeans...
All kidding aside, thanks Piper for making the Sunday ONT classy. I always look forward to this!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2025 10:13 PM (3pxDZ)
Howdy COMM! No tie. Jeans and a comfy lightweight quarter zip. Not exactly up to Piper's Sunday standards!
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:23 PM (BBMJX)
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The Outlaws (Southern Rock) were from Tampa and they could put on a great show 50 years ago. Loud guitars! One of the reasons I'm half-deaf.
Posted by: Green Grass and High Tides at December 07, 2025 10:23 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2025 10:23 PM (lCppi)
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We got our tree today. Some years we get one; others we don't. They didn't have a huge variety, and apparently the other nearby farm had already run out. It's not a "Charlie Brown" tree, but the branches are thin. Oh well - it'll still hold the lights and ornaments.
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 10:23 PM (GALGA)
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Let's not forget about this for the Dino Christmas. https://tinyurl.com/ysxv42ak
Posted by: scampydog
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$16,0000? Wow, that is quite the gift from you to Dino...doubt his will be as generous. But thank you!
Nurse would make that calculation in 0.1 sec. Then plug the mugger anyway.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Why, thank you, Mr Harris. I appreciate that
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 10:24 PM (mT+6a)
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>>> 25 Having a firebomb in the house is not my favorite part of Christmas. But it's pretty, and fresh, and we've got it watered, so with any luck it won't be too crispy by Christmas morning. Or Epiphany, when we take it down… if it survives that long.
Posted by: mindful webworker - baby, how you jingle my bells at December 07, 2025 10:07 PM (yqA/D)
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For about four years, we used to go to a local tree farm, cut our own tree, and buy the commemorative ornament.
But we eventually went to an artificial one, due to allergens related to mold and stuff. The nice thing is that one can plan out the lights and ornaments in exacting detail, since it's the same tree as last year.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 07, 2025 10:12 PM (ZOv7s)
I had some type (I lost its tag long ago, otherwise I'd share) of dwarf pine tree in my back yard in CO that was a wonderful thick cone shape, so it got lights every year. Very nice when there was snow.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 07, 2025 10:24 PM (ULPxl)
66Common thread is Southern Rock
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:13 PM (y171U)
Be more specific
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:15 PM (BBMJX)
All from Jax Florida
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:19 PM (y171U)
Ding ding - winner! One week of ampersand privileges to you.
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:24 PM (BBMJX)
She was probably quite attractive in her day. Problem is that that day was fifty years ago and she's the only one who doesn't know it.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 10:24 PM (3nLb4)
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The Drunk Republican
@DrunkRepub
Dec 6
There’s a common mistranslation in the Bible that states that Eve was formed from Adam’s rib. If you look at the original Hebrew though it was actually his McRib, and Adam begged her to order her own. But she claimed she wasn’t hungry and just wanted some of his.
Dec 6, 2025 · 8:07 PM UTC
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 10:25 PM (rbvCR)
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40 oddbob, migratory bird treaty act of 1918 between US and Canada and then implemention legislation of the treaty. See Missouri v Holland (1920). Within US, interstate commerce as birds fly from state to state and thus are covered under the stream of commerce theory.
Posted by: whig's phone at December 07, 2025 10:25 PM (WDjG6)
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I have some questions re: next Saturday's Club ONT Christmas party:
1. Are we having a white elephant exchange, and
2.Is the ugly Christmas sweater contest still on?
Thanks!
Rock bands that came out of Jacksonville in the early '70s.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 07, 2025 10:26 PM (syz1S)
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That T-Rex ad says "custom sound". How about having it speak in a Brooklyn accent?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:27 PM (kpS4V)
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52 You can tell how classy gays are by how much of their sex and jollies goes on in public bathrooms. Cutting holes in toilet partitions is chic. And public turlets are known for their hygiene.
Posted by: The Great Poof at December 07, 2025 10:20 PM (oftw2)
Maybe it's the acoustics.
Posted by: davidt at December 07, 2025 10:27 PM (Q+gd/)
76Within US, interstate commerce as birds fly from state to state and thus are covered under the stream of commerce theory.
Because they eat wheat, right? It all makes sense now.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 10:27 PM (3nLb4)
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You can tell how classy gays are by how much of their sex and jollies goes on in public bathrooms. Cutting holes in toilet partitions is chic. And public turlets are known for their hygiene.
Posted by: The Great Poof at December 07, 2025 10:20 PM (oftw2)
Maybe it's the acoustics.
Posted by: davidt at December 07, 2025 10:27 PM (Q+gd/)
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70 I have some questions re: next Saturday's Club ONT Christmas party:
1. Are we having a white elephant exchange, and
2.Is the ugly Christmas sweater contest still on?
Thanks!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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1. Working out the details.
2. Absolutely!
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 10:28 PM (41CYW)
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60 The Outlaws (Southern Rock) were from Tampa and they could put on a great show 50 years ago. Loud guitars! One of the reasons I'm half-deaf.
Posted by: Green Grass and High Tides at December 07, 2025 10:23 PM (oftw2)
I like watching Youtube reaction videos of youngsters first time listening to GG&HT.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:28 PM (y171U)
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Hilarity in Seattle during next year's Pride Month!
Seattle is having a "Pride Match" during the soccer World Cup on on June 26, which is the Friday of "Pride Weekend" in Seattle.
The two teams playing?
Iran and Egypt.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 10:06 PM (xTIDn)
Will the teams fans have a counter march? News at 11.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 10:28 PM (S/Y4j)
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Ron Chernow? Got it in my to be read pile.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:26 PM (y171U)
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Yup! It's so good I can't do my usual speed read. You want to savor it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:29 PM (kpS4V)
Close enough darlin'
I'm guessing Piper loves you no matter💗
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2025 10:29 PM (3pxDZ)
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>>> 51 Help me out here. Which clause of the Constitution makes counting birds a function of the federal government?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 10:16 PM (3nLb4)
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Apparently there are no state-funded bird-counters and the bird-watcher societies don't have internet access or something.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 07, 2025 10:20 PM (ZOv7s)
iirc Mrs E. participates in the annual birb-counting festivities that various bird-watching clubs do, but I guess those don't count because they don't have the proper EXPERTS!!! doing the counting.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 07, 2025 10:29 PM (ULPxl)
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69 40 oddbob, migratory bird treaty act of 1918 between US and Canada and then implemention legislation of the treaty. See Missouri v Holland (1920). Within US, interstate commerce as birds fly from state to state and thus are covered under the stream of commerce theory.
Posted by: whig's phone at December 07, 2025 10:25 PM (WDjG6)
We took pictures of the Monk Parakeets in Garland yesterday and Mrs. E entered the sighting in her Audubon log. I kinda think they were self-deporting.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 10:29 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2025 10:30 PM (3pxDZ)
86Because they eat wheat, right? It all makes sense now.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 10:27 PM (3nLb4)
Actually, the wheat they don't eat also affects the interstate pricing. That was covered in Wickard v Fillburn
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 10:30 PM (rbvCR)
87
Carefully followed the captioned lyrics on all three videos, and I just couldn't find anything in common. Except, maybe, I guess, they were all rock and involved travel.
🙄
88 Help me out here. Which clause of the Constitution makes counting birds a function of the federal government?
Posted by: Oddbob
Jim Crow law
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 10:31 PM (pkeXY)
89
81 Ron Chernow? Got it in my to be read pile.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:26 PM (y171U)
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Yup! It's so good I can't do my usual speed read. You want to savor it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:29 PM (kpS4V)
When I got to the end, where Grant is rushing to finish his autobiography and then his funeral afterwards, I got quite emotional reading it. Chernow really brings it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2025 10:32 PM (0CU3H)
90
Y'know what? 25848 is a lot of comments for one week.
91
Regarding today's birthdays, I met Johnny Bench about 25 years ago. When I was a kid he was my favorite baseball player--I have a ton of "Big Red Machine" memorabilia, including autographs by all of the position players from their back to back World Series titles.
"They" say "Never meet your heroes." They are wrong. Johnny Bench was one of the most gracious people I have ever met.
Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (Cjcf6)
92
Seattle is hosting the World Cup? What idiot came up with that? These big cities are not fit to live in (I've been saying for years) let alone host anything. They should have selected Billings Montana, they would have been better off.
Posted by: Case at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (G1OIb)
Mooch carried "No Taste" triumphantly across the finish line.
Posted by: Ju at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (EgpoY)
94
78 70 I have some questions re: next Saturday's Club ONT Christmas party:
1. Are we having a white elephant exchange, and
2.Is the ugly Christmas sweater contest still on?
Thanks!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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1. Working out the details.
2. Absolutely!
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 10:28 PM (41CYW)
To prepare for #1, use Yule Tide detergent. Turns any solid sweater into a Christmas sweater.
Yule Tide; Not just super clean, but super Christmasy!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (S/Y4j)
95
COMM!
Howdy, love! You and the girl dog all snuggled up and roasty toasty?
I broke down and ordered an electric blanket off Amazon today. It will be nice to preheat the bed and then open the window.
The salty sea air is awesome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (mT+6a)
96
Piper, thank you for featuring the First Lady and her elegance in representing the White House, as well as you knowledge of fashion! It is a joy to read your fashion column each Sunday night!
Doof, you are doing a fantastic job as well!
Posted by: moki at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (wLjpr)
97
Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, and Peter Criss (Kennedy Center award); man, they look rough. Good boots, though.
https://tinyurl.com/437va2xn
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 10:34 PM (4pFA9)
98
We took pictures of the Monk Parakeets in Garland yesterday and Mrs. E entered the sighting in her Audubon log. I kinda think they were self-deporting.
Posted by: Eromero
There's a large colony of monk parakeets living in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. They are thought to have originated from escapes from a shipment of boids from Kennedy Airport in the 60s. There are Gothic entrance spires and they have colonized it despite the cold winters.
Posted by: Bird Is The Word! at December 07, 2025 10:34 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: Piper at December 07, 2025 10:35 PM (OoFl2)
102 Yeah, I was just looking at Paul Stanley. Damn, he's a corpse. Peter Criss, I wouldn't have recognized -- who is that decrepit old guy, I wondered. Gene Simmons is the best looking of the bunch, but that ain't saying much.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 10:36 PM (w6EFb)
103
To their great shame our media continue to treat Melania like a red-headed stepchild.
She should be on the covers of Vogue and Paris Match and all the other mags that are 250 pages of ads and 50 pages of bullshit.
But nope, they shun the prettiest, classiest, stylish First Lady since Jackie, who also happens to be a successful immigrant (a class of people they pretend to hold in high regard), all because she is married to their Orange Nazi Antichrist.
It seems their minds have never progressed beyond the Mean Girl cliques from high school.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 10:36 PM (6ydKt)
104
Seattle is hosting the World Cup? What idiot came up with that? These big cities are not fit to live in (I've been saying for years) let alone host anything. They should have selected Billings Montana, they would have been better off.
Posted by: Case at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (G1OIb)
How about using Boise State's blue field. Give the visiting teams and foreign viewers something new to wonder about the US.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 10:36 PM (S/Y4j)
I was trying find a video of the late great Dave Parker and his amazing throw to Gary Carter in the '79 all star game, coupled with the 'This Week in Baseball ' theme. Couldn't find it. So, I improvised.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 07, 2025 10:37 PM (sAmhv)
108
The World Cup is spread around. I know there is a series of matches in Philadelphia in June where the Iggles play.
Posted by: Not Planning To Watch at December 07, 2025 10:38 PM (oftw2)
109Doof, you are doing a fantastic job as well!
Posted by: moki at December 07, 2025 10:33 PM (wLjpr)
Thank you. Need any Club ONT restroom tokens?
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:38 PM (BBMJX)
110 Good evening everyone. Fitting recomendation given the date. Drachiniffel has a very good ewetoob post on how the battleships were righted after the attack. Footings were cast, some of which are still present today, and multiple winches were used to roll the ships back onto their keels. Very interesting.
You can find the videohere: https://youtu.be/zGGnt7xDFok?si=dPpudoQvssRprUPl
The Salvage of USS Oklahoma - Ultimate American Ingenuity. This recovery required the intricate use of winches for the righting operation
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 10:38 PM (QVmho)
111
How about using Boise State's blue field. Give the visiting teams and foreign viewers something new to wonder about the US.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 10:36 PM (S/Y4j)
I vote NO! Soccer sucks balls, and I do not want my commute to work interrupted.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 07, 2025 10:39 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 10:39 PM (dyewR)
113
96 Piper, thank you for featuring the First Lady and her elegance in representing the White House, as well as you knowledge of fashion! It is a joy to read your fashion column each Sunday night!
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What a pathetic sham our media is. They should hire Piper and make an honest report.
youtube.com/watch?v=oE56g61mW44
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 10:39 PM (4pFA9)
Seattles new mayor Katie could just lose the games for Seattle. She is a big defund the police supporter and crime is getting really bad again. It was actually improving under Bruce Harrel.
Oh well.
Still. The new waterfront is absolutely beautiful. Really.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 10:41 PM (mT+6a)
118
I was trying find a video of the late great Dave Parker and his amazing throw to Gary Carter in the '79 all star game, coupled with the 'This Week in Baseball ' theme. Couldn't find it. So, I improvised.
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I watched that live as a kid--epic moment in All Star history! Gary Carter was the best catcher not named Johnny Bench.
Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2025 10:41 PM (Cjcf6)
119
Finally home. Drove Pooky's nephew and his friend to "Jujutsu Kaisen: Execution," watched it with them (and a few GIRLS), and made the arduous trek back home.
In case you are wondering, JK:E is decent if you're a fan of the anime, and not great if you aren't.
Posted by: pookysgirl needs Monday to get here at December 07, 2025 10:42 PM (Wt5PA)
His daughter was there and accepted the medal for him.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 10:43 PM (w6EFb)
121
Wolfus is #4 in comments this week. Wouldn't have expected that.
Posted by: This Place Is Addictive at December 07, 2025 10:44 PM (oftw2)
122For about four years, we used to go to a local tree farm, cut our own tree, and buy the commemorative ornament.…
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
First Christmas after we moved back here to Oklahoma, our three pre-teen young'n's went out to the overgrown west pasture with rancher Bob (RIP, you great old cowboy) and he cut a tree the kids chose. Huge. It barely fit through the double doors of the old house, and only fit in height because we'd taken out the old rotting suspended ceiling; still scraped the underside of the peaked roof. Filled about a third of the room. Surprised it didn't have an owl or a possum in it. I'm sure Bob was chuckling all the way back to the house.
Glad our daughter made a much more sensible choice for us this year. Presents won't get lost under it.
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:38 PM (BBMJX)
Yo are so sweet! Naw, I'm grandma old now, so I'm heading to bed! You give that token to one of the other young ladies who will be sticking around!!
Posted by: moki at December 07, 2025 10:44 PM (wLjpr)
124
anymore they want your phone/wallet/keys.........regardless the 35 in ammo is still cheaper than revolving door justice/abortion/lethal injection
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at December 07, 2025 10:44 PM (jrgJz)
125
Soccer hooligans are the worst. When I was in Yugoslavia many years ago on a battalion-sponsored getaway, we found ourselves in the middle of a soccer brawl at a club. Apparently, Scotland had lost to Yugoslavia, or some such. the match was in Triesta, Italy. A mid-level qualifying thing. Soccer fans make Eagles fans look dignified.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 07, 2025 10:45 PM (0aYVJ)
126
Bif - I've been watching Drachinifel's channel since I heard about it at the last PNW MoMee. Very interesting stuff, even to someone whose nautical experience is mostly limited to paddling an inflatable canoe.
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 10:45 PM (GALGA)
127 Also, they had a open seat there for Ace Frehley at the ceremony, I just read.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 10:45 PM (w6EFb)
128 We took pictures of the Monk Parakeets in Garland yesterday and Mrs. E entered the sighting in her Audubon log. I kinda think they were self-deporting.
Posted by: Eromero
There is a huge honking colony of them in Duncanville,TX. They live in the neighborhood just North of the police station and hang out in the city park adjacent to the police station and city hall. Very pretty birds. They would fly in an almost formation to steal french fries from the pidgeons at the Dairy Queen.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 10:46 PM (QVmho)
129And across the West, National Park Service staff won’t know which birds are breeding in the parks this spring.
What kind of a sicko keeps count of birds f**king? I'm glad Trump is putting an end to that disgusting fetish.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2025 10:46 PM (0Htd1)
130
Remember when Tom Hanks opined the real cause of WWII in the pacific was that America was racist against Japan?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 10:47 PM (sKqQm)
131
Who thought it would be a good idea to bring in foreign mobs of violent, racist, nationalist soccer fans?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:41 PM (
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Has Seattle even recovered from the WTO Conference riots ("Battle of Seattle") in '99? It's stupid for cities to play on the world stage for bs prestige.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:47 PM (kpS4V)
132What kind of a sicko keeps count of birds f**king? I'm glad Trump is putting an end to that disgusting fetish.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2025 10:46 PM (0Htd1)
You never heard of "the birds and the bees"?
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 10:47 PM (BBMJX)
133
One of my treasured memories is going to a giant "You-pick-it-You-Cut-it" Christmas tree farm with my Dad. We wandered the rows of near identical trees until he spotted one he liked. "This looks like a good one, but we might find a better one. Remember this one," he said.
I looked around. There were no tree numbers, no row numbers and no landmarks. Being well past my smart-aleck teen years, I just said, "Okay, Dad." We wandered farther into the farm. The farm was about a hundred acres and was almost flat.
We repeated this performance three or four more times, until Dad said, "You know, I think I liked that first one best." We hiked back towards the parking lot until we were standing in front of what might, or might not, have been the original tree. "Is this it?" he asked.
I looked around. I saw nothing but near identical trees. "Yes," I said. "Yes, it is." Dad nodded in satisfaction. We sawed the tree down and carried it to the checkout station.
Dad has been gone ten years now. I miss him.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 10:48 PM (4mmkh)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 10:49 PM (pkeXY)
135
And thanks Doof, for posting Walls of Shame. My mental illness continues unabated.
Posted by: Fugitive From Board of Mental Health at December 07, 2025 10:49 PM (oftw2)
136
Soccer hooligans are the worst. When I was in Yugoslavia many years ago on a battalion-sponsored getaway, we found ourselves in the middle of a soccer brawl at a club. Apparently, Scotland had lost to Yugoslavia, or some such. the match was in Triesta, Italy.
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The same people that will fight over soccer teams won't fight over the *gutting* of their country.
Soccer sucks. It has always been a sport for people who can only afford a single ball for 20 kids to be entertained. Its the stupidest idea ever that human beings are evolved to the point we are but soccer insists "Don't use your hands!".
Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2025 10:49 PM (Cjcf6)
137
121 Wolfus is #4 in comments this week. Wouldn't have expected that.
Posted by: This Place Is Addictive
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He's retired now.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 07, 2025 10:50 PM (sAmhv)
138 That prompts me to think of "missing rocker" formation of some sort. The empty chair should have a guitar, boots, and the big hair draped over it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 10:51 PM (w6EFb)
139First Christmas after we moved back here to Oklahoma, our three pre-teen young'n's went out to the overgrown west pasture with rancher Bob (RIP, you great old cowboy) and he cut a tree the kids chose. Huge. It barely fit through the double doors of the old house, and only fit in height because we'd taken out the old rotting suspended ceiling; still scraped the underside of the peaked roof. Filled about a third of the room. Surprised it didn't have an owl or a possum in it. I'm sure Bob was chuckling all the way back to the house.
Glad our daughter made a much more sensible choice for us this year. Presents won't get lost under it.
Posted by: mindful webworker - ip ip urray at December 07, 2025 10:44 PM (yqA/D)
Just to clarify, the aforementioned landowner is not the Rancher Bob, gracious host of TXMoMes. (I hope, anyway.)
140
Also, they had a open seat there for Ace Frehley at the ceremony, I just read.
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Ace *made* Kiss. Ace was the member of Kiss that was "cool" and could play. During the middle '70s, Ace gave Kiss street cred.
Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2025 10:52 PM (Cjcf6)
141 Very interesting stuff, even to someone whose nautical experience is mostly limited to paddling an inflatable canoe.
Posted by: PabloD
He makes it make sense for me. I stumbled onto him following a thread of steam power innovations that led to the union pacific's Big Boy. Really enjoyed his explanation of how the fire contrrol computer for the big naval guns was developed as an outcome of overcoming the camo paint patterns on the ships to get length resolution witth speed.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 10:53 PM (QVmho)
142
There is a huge honking colony of them in Duncanville,TX. They live in the neighborhood just North of the police station and hang out in the city park adjacent to the police station and city hall. Very pretty birds. They would fly in an almost formation to steal french fries from the pidgeons at the Dairy Queen.
Posted by: BifBewalski
We steer clear of Duncanville for obvious reasons.
Posted by: The Merry Marching Penguin Majority at December 07, 2025 10:53 PM (oftw2)
143
>>>I vote NO! Soccer sucks balls, and I do not want my commute to work interrupted.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,
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Soccer is a good sport. For Europeans.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 10:54 PM (4pFA9)
144
You best not be putting $35 of lead into a perp trying to take your wallet.
You put $35 of lead into a perp who is going to hurt you gravely or kill you in order to get to the $20 in your wallet.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 10:55 PM (JTFb1)
145
The article just really bugged me so I figured I'd see if it bugs you too.
Here's something to cheer you up, Doofmeister:
https://tinyurl.com/54zy8zpa
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 10:55 PM (uQesX)
146
I can't believe I almost missed Pearl Harbor Day. My brain is totally shorted out these days. I'm aware of Tuesdays and Saturdays because I have dialysis. But ask me the actual, including the month, and I am totally lost. And to make it worse, I am currently reading "The Fall of Japan" by William Craig for the first time. Just never got around to it before.
I love those McDonalds commercials with Bird and Jordan. They somehow made the two of them more human, personable.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 07, 2025 10:56 PM (DK5Sh)
147 Just looking at pictures of Melania at the Kennedy Center shindig.
She's just a stone-cold fox. Drop-dead gorgeous. And one classy dame as they used to say.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 10:56 PM (w6EFb)
148 Her Majesty and The Big Dummy made it to Lake City, FL after a grueling drive on I-10 through bad weather. They'll get down to Orlando tomorrow.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:56 PM (tgvbd)
149Seattle is having a "Pride Match" during the soccer World Cup on on June 26, which is the Friday of "Pride Weekend" in Seattle.
The two teams playing?
Iran and Egypt.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
So, the winning team celebrates by throwing the gay men from the losing team off a roof?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2025 10:57 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 10:54 PM (4pFA9)
It's the only approved nationalism on the continent.
Everything else and you're a bigoted racist.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 10:57 PM (gKDq2)
151
This recovery required the intricate use of winches for the righting operation
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 10:38 PM (QVmho)
I first read that as wenches.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 10:58 PM (2WIwB)
152 She's just a stone-cold fox. Drop-dead gorgeous. And one classy dame as they used to say.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 10:56 PM (w6EFb)
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More lovely than Big Mike?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:58 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 10:58 PM (77rzZ)
154
Put me firmly in the camp that we should not be spending tax dollars on what amounts to glorified bird watching (which is a hobby).
Guess how non-National Parks handle counting migrating bird species. That's right, they get volunteers to do it. I used to live near a State Sanctuary called Hawk Mountain (actually foothills called the Blue Mountains)...It is a main migration path of Eagles, Peregrines, Hawks etc. Every year they contact local colleges and high schools and pull in many more people than they need to count migrations. Doesn't cost the state of Pa a plug nickel.
Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 10:59 PM (dIske)
155
130 Remember when Tom Hanks opined the real cause of WWII in the pacific was that America was racist against Japan?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 10:47 PM (sKqQm)
Does Tom Hanks think the narco-boat terrorists are innocent fishermen?
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 10:59 PM (y171U)
156
So, the winning team celebrates by throwing the gay men from the losing team off a roof?
Posted by: nerdygirl
We can only hope.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 10:59 PM (mT+6a)
157
I understand Johnny Bench was a "Baseball Star"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 10:15 PM (8DR9B)
Ahem. That's "The Oak Behind the Plate." The best ever catcher in baseball.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:01 PM (uQesX)
158Just to clarify, the aforementioned landowner is not the Rancher Bob, gracious host of TXMoMes. (I hope, anyway.)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
Correct. Our rancher Bob & his wife lived here on Rancho Webworko for many decades, raised their three kids here, ran his cattle and helped keep up the place. Absolute salt of the earth, with a sense of humor that would make you think. He died earlier this year, and the mrs in the Fall. Their family and ours were friends and associates for generations. Miss 'em a lot.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 11:01 PM (mT+6a)
160
So, the winning team celebrates by throwing the gay men from the losing team off a roof?
Posted by: nerdygirl
A perfectly good Space Needle available too.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 11:02 PM (2WIwB)
161
144 You best not be putting $35 of lead into a perp trying to take your wallet.
You put $35 of lead into a perp who is going to hurt you gravely or kill you in order to get to the $20 in your wallet.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 10:55 PM (JTFb1)
Net net, the perp comes out financially ahead in the transaction. Doesn't he?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2025 11:04 PM (0CU3H)
162
Ahem. That's "The Oak Behind the Plate." The best ever catcher in baseball.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
Bench was wonderful, but Yogi had 10 World Series rings.
Posted by: Yoo-Hoo at December 07, 2025 11:04 PM (oftw2)
163 Good night, Hordians. Early alarum set for tomorrow morning.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 11:05 PM (tgvbd)
164
I volunteer to count birds in Swinging London, Baby.
— Austin Powers, International Man of Mystery
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 11:07 PM (77rzZ)
165
>>>I looked around. There were no tree numbers, no row numbers and no landmarks. Being well past my smart-aleck teen years, I just said, "Okay, Dad." We wandered farther into the farm. The farm was about a hundred acres and was almost flat.
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On a day trip saw a national trail marker and ex n I decided to take a hike. Following the marker deeper into the woods we got to a spot that was marked in all four directions. Oh. Picked one direction and stuck to it - can't see the sun to well amongst tall pines and they all look alike. Lost. totally lost.
We kept on course and all of a sudden it was like déjà vu or a rabbit running over your grave. I know this place, we're going this way. She resisted because it was off course but it was too familiar, it was all over me. Then we came to the clearing. The clearing where we had our keggers. Home.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:07 PM (4pFA9)
166
You put $35 of lead into a perp who is going to hurt you gravely or kill you in order to get to the $20 in your wallet.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 10:55 PM (JTFb1)
Net net, the perp comes out financially ahead in the transaction. Doesn't he?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2025 11:04 PM (0CU3H)
Three rounds of .50 BMG should take down any perp.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:08 PM (npFr7)
167
Bench threw out 43% of basestealers, Yogi nearly 49%. He looked ungainly, but had reflexes and moved like a cat. He was a good hockey player, too.
Posted by: Yoo-Hoo, One Of The All-time Greats at December 07, 2025 11:08 PM (oftw2)
168
Bench was wonderful, but Yogi had 10 World Series rings.
Posted by: Yoo-Hoo at December 07, 2025 11:04 PM (oftw2)
The mid-century Yanquis never really had any competition. The Reds and other teams, did.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:08 PM (uQesX)
169
So, tried watching the Buck Rogers movie Weasel linked in the gum thread. Got about ten minutes in before we were just overwhelmed by the fantastic special effects, superb acting, and powerful script. So we set that aside and went back to simpler film, Blade Runner, which we'd started and watched a little of yesterday.
Funny thing about the Blade Runner premise. I've been watching videos about AI and robots and reading about the ethical and social questions they're bringing. We may not have the flying cars and Japan-esed culture of the movie's early 21st Century, but the treacherous androids seem to be coming right along on schedule.
PS: We would have had flying cars by 2015, if Doc and Marty hadn't gone back and messed up the timeline.
170
The crockpot stew was yummy. Will let it simmer overnight.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:09 PM (npFr7)
171
Retired Contracting Officer Supervisor from the Forest Service who also had Grants & Agreements (G&A) Specialists to supervise. Grant's were the worst, easily and often abused by Managers and Directors. Agreements were better - they usually did not involve direct funding, for example, an agreement with a County Sheriff's Department that gave them LEO jurisdiction, or our wildfire fighters could go into their area (Tribal, State, etc) and fight the fire. But Grants - a lot of questionable organizations doing a lot of questionable work, and frankly a fair amount of graft. Some of it was good work, but it was almost never cost effective. I could award a forest thinning contract to a commercial firm for a lot less dollars (usually 1- 2/3s the cost) for a Grant. But I had a lot less authority to limit awards with Grants. Many of the good organizations probably put in DEI language to satisfy the liberal board members and did acceptable work. But it was harder to supervisor the work and the funds flow. Cut them all loose and start over with requirements that are righteous and with better safeguards in place. And put most of them on a contract if it really is a justified requirement.
Posted by: JML at December 07, 2025 11:10 PM (EtRph)
172
"We would have had flying cars by 2015, if Doc and Marty hadn't gone back and messed up the timeline."
Where the F*#K is my jet pack?
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 11:10 PM (GALGA)
Amazon shutting down 7 warehouses in Canuckistan. 1700 jobs eliminated.
How’s that elbows up going, eh?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 11:11 PM (SQJLY)
174
>>> 172 "We would have had flying cars by 2015, if Doc and Marty hadn't gone back and messed up the timeline."
==
Where the F*#K is my jet pack?
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 11:10 PM (GALGA)
Where's my fcking Mr. Fusion???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 07, 2025 11:11 PM (ULPxl)
I'm always so jealous of your location...
I'm guessing listening to the ocean doesn't suck...
Yeah, me and girldog are snuggled in. Hope so for you and Krazy Kat🤪
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2025 11:11 PM (3pxDZ)
176
Bench was wonderful, but Yogi had 10 World Series rings.
Posted by: Yoo-Hoo at December 07, 2025 11:04 PM (oftw2)
The mid-century Yanquis never really had any competition. The Reds and other teams, did.
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The Big Red Machine was the last National League team to win back to back...until LA won this very season. That says a lot about the level of competition.
Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2025 11:11 PM (Cjcf6)
177
>>You put $35 of lead into a perp who is going to hurt you gravely or kill you in order to get to the $20 in your wallet.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 10:55 PM (JTFb1)
Net net, the perp comes out financially ahead in the transaction. Doesn't he?
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Or troubled gravely.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:12 PM (4pFA9)
178
My frigging tree is almost done. Home stretch, a few little things left. Holy shit...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 11:12 PM (snZF9)
179
154 -- Hitchcock Park in western Iowa. I was up there one year, but too early for the fall migration. All i saw was a group of turkey vultures too lazy to move along. Volunteers count the raptors following the Missouri south. The deck of the building is high enough to give a visitor an unbelievable view of the Missouri valley.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 07, 2025 11:13 PM (DK5Sh)
180
Just looking at some of the heels in those photos made my ankles twist. Yikes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:13 PM (2GVsD)
181
147
Just looking at pictures of Melania at the Kennedy Center shindig.
She's just a stone-cold fox. Drop-dead gorgeous. And one classy dame as they used to say.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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Smoky eyes, style, and beauty everywhere. And the boots...damn those boots.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 11:14 PM (41CYW)
182
Got about ten minutes in before we were just overwhelmed by the fantastic special effects, superb acting, and powerful script.
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Ha! It really is SF disco tinsel. Twiki the robot didn't send chills down your spine?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 11:14 PM (kpS4V)
183
Hilarity in Seattle during next year's Pride Month!
Seattle is having a "Pride Match" during the soccer World Cup on on June 26, which is the Friday of "Pride Weekend" in Seattle.
The two teams playing?
Iran and Egypt.
I wonder if they have been told of this. And if they understand. "Pride? Yes, we have pride. We are proud country"
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 07, 2025 11:16 PM (3/XaG)
184Bench was wonderful, but Yogi had 10 World Series rings.
Posted by: Yoo-Hoo at December 07, 2025 11:04 PM (oftw2)
IMO, two different eras. Fewer teams/games for Yogi, plus no playoffs. And early on in his career, no night games.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 11:17 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:18 PM (uQesX)
186
I got around here somewhere Gil Gerad's photo and autograph. This was a photo from his table and he is dressed like Captain Kirk because I stupidly left behind my Buck Rogers novel. So yeah, a win.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:19 PM (2GVsD)
187
I got around here somewhere Gil Gerad's photo and autograph. This was a photo from his table and he is dressed like Captain Kirk because I stupidly left behind my Buck Rogers novel. So yeah, a win.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:19 PM (2GVsD)
First season was good. Of the second, we will not speak.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:20 PM (uQesX)
188
PS: We would have had flying cars by 2015, if Doc and Marty hadn't gone back and messed up the timeline.
Posted by: mindful webworker - where we're going, we still need roads at December 07, 2025 11:08 PM (yqA/D)
We had flying cars. The Waterman Arrowbile almost made production in 1937. The 1949 Taylor Aerocar actually saw a few production built and sold. Actor Bob Cummings owned one. I saw an extant example at the Barrett-Jackson auction in Scottsdale a few years ago.
But they never really took off. Reason being, the design compromises necessary to make a flying car/roadable airplane are such that you wind up with a beast that is neither a very good car, nor a very good airplane, yet costs more than a good car and a good airplane combined.
If you had a personal VTOL aircraft that could safely operate out of a suburban driveway, why would you need a car at all? Just flit from place to place.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:20 PM (npFr7)
189
US is playing in Seattle on 6/19. They’ll probably make that the the homo game in order to not offend the muzzies.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 11:20 PM (SQJLY)
190
Trump's security strategy aligns with putin goals moscow says. Putin gets europe as his protectorate with trump getting some more golf courses. nov. 2026 we will start settling the score!
Posted by: raimondo at December 07, 2025 11:21 PM (HlF98)
191Does Tom Hanks think the narco-boat terrorists are innocent fishermen?
Posted by: Joemarine
I think his son is one of their junkie customers.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2025 11:22 PM (0Htd1)
192
What is it with sport-champion rings — Super-Bowl rings, World-Series rings?
Anything other than a wedding ring on guys is gay.
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 11:22 PM (77rzZ)
193If you had a personal VTOL aircraft that could safely operate out of a suburban driveway, why would you need a car at all? Just flit from place to place.
The FAA would have a budget ten times that of NASA. And a Ralph Nader AI bot shilling for Morgan&Morgan.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:22 PM (2GVsD)
194
The FAA would have a budget ten times that of NASA. And a Ralph Nader AI bot shilling for Morgan&Morgan.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:22 PM (2GVsD)
Isn't that Morgan & Morgan & Morgan now? I think they're in the jewelry business.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:24 PM (uQesX)
195
I wonder what the last thing was that went through Yamamoto's mind before he augured in over Bougainville. Besides a bamboo stalk, I mean.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
A .50 cal projectile.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 11:24 PM (/lPRQ)
Amazon shutting down 7 warehouses in Canuckistan. 1700 jobs eliminated.
How’s that elbows up going, eh?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 11:11 PM (SQJLY)
Well, as much as I'd like to to blame the Federal Liberalscum for that, all 7 centers are in Quebec, and they closed them rather than deal with the union. Happened in January of this year.
Good on amazon for sticking it to the unions.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:24 PM (npFr7)
197
I remember the days when Michelle Obama was elegant and well dressed and had a walk that would turn heads.
Posted by: Ray Charles at December 07, 2025 11:24 PM (GpefC)
198
Roy Campanella might have been considered the best catcher in history, if he hadn't been paralyzed in the car accident. He was fantastic, but players had to have off-season jobs to get by. He owned a Likker store and had to work in a snow/ice storm. Nobody wore seat belts and automotive safety wasn't a thing.
Posted by: You Were The Crumple Zone at December 07, 2025 11:25 PM (oftw2)
199
Who cares what Tom Hanks says, much less what he 'thinks.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:25 PM (2GVsD)
200
Putin and Trump understand each other. It's Numb Nutz and Brittany Faggots that don't. Poland and the border countries are ideologically aligned with Putin much more than with W. Europe.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:26 PM (4pFA9)
201
Who cares what Tom Hanks says, much less what he 'thinks.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:25 PM (2GVsD)
Same as upthread.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:26 PM (uQesX)
202I wonder if they have been told of this. And if they understand. "Pride? Yes, we have pride. We are proud country"
Here's hoping the Iranian and Egyptian fans hang around for the Seattle Pride Parade two days after the match.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 11:26 PM (xTIDn)
203
.50 cal because a 20mm round from a P-38 would have blown his whole head apart.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:26 PM (2GVsD)
204
Trump's security strategy aligns with putin goals moscow says. Putin gets europe as his protectorate with trump getting some more golf courses. nov. 2026 we will start settling the score!
Posted by: raimondo at December 07, 2025 11:21 PM (HlF9
Lots more golf courses, with 22 holes. The extra three are yuge, luxurious holes to use as mass graves for Commies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:27 PM (npFr7)
205I remember the days when Michelle Obama was elegant and well dressed and had a walk that would turn heads.
I was assured by many publications that Mike was the Second Coming of Jackie Kennedy.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 11:27 PM (xTIDn)
Thank you Doof for consistently excellent content!
We finished the outdoor lights this evening which was a relief because it was getting cold outside. 58F! Brrrrrr!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 11:27 PM (QGaXH)
207Here's hoping the Iranian and Egyptian fans hang around for the Seattle Pride Parade two days after the match.
The anti-fada will be lit!
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:27 PM (2GVsD)
208
194 The FAA would have a budget ten times that of NASA. And a Ralph Nader AI bot shilling for Morgan&Morgan.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Wouldn't need FAA. Put Musk's software in the planes, punch in your destination. Software work out the logistics.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:29 PM (4pFA9)
209
I see the Canadian government is still looking to welch out on purchasing more F-35s and buy the JAS-39.
Good luck with that Canada.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:29 PM (2GVsD)
210
Good on amazon for sticking it to the unions.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Walmart did that too - closed a store in Quebec about 10 yrs ago due to the employees voting to unionize.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)
211
Just saw a picture of Sleepy Joe Biden and he looks like he has had so much botox injected into his face. He has no wrinkles and has has his eyes done so they dont look squinty. I thought he was in deaths door from the cancer but it looks like he was lying again and has work done on his face.
Posted by: Megthered at December 07, 2025 11:30 PM (kmh+J)
212
Didn’t Tom Hanks and his wife go to Greece? WTF cares what he thinks?
He’s just like that simpleton he played in that dumb movie. Except, a box of chocolates is useful.
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 11:30 PM (77rzZ)
213
oddbob, migratory bird treaty act of 1918 between US and Canada and then implemention legislation of the treaty. See Missouri v Holland (1920). Within US, interstate commerce as birds fly from state to state and thus are covered under the stream of commerce theory.
Posted by: whig's phone
The better question would be what requires it?
Here known constitutional scholar BO would note counting birds is one of the few "positive rights".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 11:31 PM (/lPRQ)
214 Guess my link at 145 didn't cheer Doof up.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:18 PM (uQesX)
Just got to it. Funny. Although it being from NPR, of course they continue to say "her".
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 11:31 PM (BBMJX)
215
Yogi lost a couple years at the beginning of his career because he was in the Navy in WW II. Gunner's Mate on a rocket boat on D-Day, earned a Purple Heart among other medals.
Posted by: Yoo-Hoo Spokesmodel at December 07, 2025 11:31 PM (oftw2)
216
We finished the outdoor lights this evening which was a relief because it was getting cold outside. 58F! Brrrrrr!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 11:27 PM (QGaXH)
It actually warmed up a tiny bit here today, went from about 2F to maybe 12F. And late in the afternoon, I could see a nice Chinook arch building in the southwest, so it may be mild tomorrow. It's forecast to be, at any rate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:31 PM (npFr7)
217
Tom Hanks is now his character from Bosom Buddies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:31 PM (2GVsD)
218
Ok pals. And I know all the Ds are lurking...😜
Good night; its been a blast as usual!
"Sleep: nature’s way of saying ‘you’re done for today."
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 07, 2025 11:32 PM (3pxDZ)
The George Pal War of the Worlds just finished and now it has selected The Andromeda Strain.
Got to watch out for those microbes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:32 PM (2GVsD)
220 Thank you Doof for consistently excellent content!
We finished the outdoor lights this evening which was a relief because it was getting cold outside. 58F! Brrrrrr!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 11:27 PM (QGaXH)
You're welcome. Appreciate the kind words.
58F is cold to you? I'd still be playing golf. In shorts!
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 11:33 PM (BBMJX)
221
@200 says putin's bot. Poland is doubling the size of its army to defend against russia. Polish people want even higher defense spending yo fight russia.
Posted by: raimondo at December 07, 2025 11:33 PM (HlF98)
222
I was assured by many publications that Mike was the Second Coming of Jackie Kennedy.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Blackie Oh!
Posted by: Camelot Revisited at December 07, 2025 11:34 PM (oftw2)
223
Germany and France are talking about returning to conscription for their armed services.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:34 PM (2GVsD)
224
Johnny Bench was my childhood nemesis. Working for the Big Red Machine, aka World Communism, my free spirited Pirates gave as good as they got. But his finest moment had to be when the A's faked him out with a intentional walk and then struck him out. Yes, the Commies will always be defeated.
I am as proud of our First Lady as I am of our President.
And very excited that on my next National Park visit I can buy the senior citizen lifetime pass. Hope I get my money's worth.
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 07, 2025 11:35 PM (TFeiv)
225
Wouldn't need FAA. Put Musk's software in the planes, punch in your destination. Software work out the logistics.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:29 PM (4pFA9)
I expect that if such personal flying machines ever become a reality, automated control will be mandatory for congested areas. Maybe have a few designated "free flying zones" outside the cities where owners can use manual controls to fly for fun. Like they have designated zones now for aerobatic flying.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:35 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 11:35 PM (mT+6a)
227
Rainmandodo only 'hates' russki because they're no longer *soviet* and no longer murd3r their own citizens by the 10s of thousands.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 11:36 PM (rdVOm)
228
@DefiantLs .
Vietnamese dude nails it: "There's only about 2 million of us here in the US... we never ask anyone to bow down or speak our language."xcancel.com/EricLDaugh/status/1997…
"Why the F does this mayor in Somalian Minnesota have to speak their language, and apologize for those crooked-a** pirates?! Since when do we have to do that?"
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:37 PM (4pFA9)
229
Anyone who thinks 58 degrees is cold can just get the eff off my lawn, regardless of age.
That’s practically Hawaiian shirt weather for me.
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 11:38 PM (77rzZ)
230
Roommate in college went and cut down a tree planed at the school gym. He dragged it trough the snow to the deans house front step then picked it up hoofed it to his apartment.
Posted by: pawn at December 07, 2025 11:39 PM (70YV/)
231
Thank you also to Piper! The couture isn't my thing but always appreciate our lovely First Lady.
We don't deserve either of them.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 11:41 PM (QGaXH)
wtf was that?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 11:42 PM (mT+6a)
Doggo alerted me to the bilge
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 11:43 PM (BBMJX)
236
Bulg,
Do you have contact with stateless? Please ask if he’s ok.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 11:44 PM (mT+6a)
237
Vietnamese man's post is too good not to hear.
https://tinyurl.com/bdfxv6ut
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:45 PM (4pFA9)
238
When are you heading south, AOP?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 11:43 PM (mT+6a)
Hopefully before Christmas. Going in tomorrow to get another Holter monitor put on me for 24 hours. Mostly, I think, just to have current data on my heart rhythms. No new outbreaks of arrhythmias that I am aware of. I feel up to travel, OK.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:46 PM (npFr7)
239
The George Pal War of the Worlds just finished and now it has selected The Andromeda Strain.
Got to watch out for those microbes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2025 11:32 PM (2GVsD)
Need me some squeeeezzzeeee!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 11:46 PM (2WIwB)
240 Me being the nut I am about this stuff, I was fascinated by the following. They boys at the NIST have answered the question about "What time is it on Mars" to the microsecond level of precision commensurate with atomic clocks and all that. It's a general relativistic framework and well, it ain't romper room arithmetic. Here's the paper, if interested:
https://is.gd/hcyBtS
In short, on average clocks on the Martian reference "aeroid" (equivalent of earth's geoid) will tick about 477 microseconds faster than clocks on earth's reference geoid (that atomic clocks tick with). That rate will vary by +/- 277 us over the Martian year.
And digging in the paper, there will be an error of about 100 ns per day, due to unmodeled other effects. They aren't modelled, 'cause they're too damn complicated, but they'll get there.
This type of thing will be very crucial for a Solar System Positioning System and solar system internet that are on the drawing board.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 11:47 PM (w6EFb)
241
I do have e-mail addy for Andycanuck. I will shoot him an email soon. Don't know if he has a back channel to Stateless, but I can ask.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:47 PM (npFr7)
242
Just saw a picture of Sleepy Joe Biden and he looks like he has had so much botox injected into his face. He has no wrinkles and has has his eyes done so they dont look squinty. I thought he was in deaths door from the cancer but it looks like he was lying again and has work done on his face.
Posted by: Megthered at December 07, 2025 11:30 PM (kmh+J)
Or maybe they found another body double. I wonder what grim fate the last one had. I'm
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 11:48 PM (znQHQ)
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 11:49 PM (77rzZ)
244
LoL!!
The Steelers beat the Ravens in Baltimore. They now lead the worst division in the NFL, the AFC North!
Yay!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 07, 2025 11:49 PM (sAmhv)
245
@crushmarxismnow . 13h
A college professor calling action to kill all Whites > a Cinnabon girl calling randoms a word (Cinnabon fires worker after viral video of her harassing Somali couple)
@DOGE__news . Dec 6
“We [professor says] have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem.”
https://tinyurl.com/bddndc76
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 11:50 PM (4pFA9)
246
I also have an email for Andycanuk. I will send him one in the morning.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 11:52 PM (mT+6a)
Ilhan Omar just called Stephen Miller a Nazi on National TV.
Remember…
They don't kill you because you're a Nazi.
They call you a Nazi so they can kill you.
This is an incitement of violence
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I don't understand why she's not in jail or Somalia.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 12:02 AM (4pFA9)
Thank you Doof for consistently excellent content!
We finished the outdoor lights this evening which was a relief because it was getting cold outside. 58F! Brrrrrr!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)
Just went inside. 73F...
Gonna go back outside to warm up in the infamous 321.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 08, 2025 12:02 AM (/lPRQ)
260
Rainmandodo only 'hates' russki because they're no longer *soviet* and no longer murd3r their own citizens by the 10s of thousands.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 11:36 PM (rdVOm)
He? It's throwing a fit because Reggie's with Barry right now and R has no place to put his mouth.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 08, 2025 12:03 AM (uQesX)
261
Something neat for us 80s kids that YouTube's algorithm just gifted me with: Mr. Mister doing "Broken Wings" in September of this year. Richard Page sounds phenomenal for 72, singing in the same key as the original 1985 record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ooe4KDzMo
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2025 12:04 AM (ciXcx)
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 12:06 AM (77rzZ)
264
Didn’t Tom Hanks and his wife go to Greece? WTF cares what he thinks?
He’s just like that simpleton he played in that dumb movie. Except, a box of chocolates is useful.
Posted by: Bulg
Chocolate?
I thought all he had was a soccer ball and coconuts he couldn't figure out how to open.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 08, 2025 12:07 AM (/lPRQ)
265Just saw a picture of Sleepy Joe Biden and he looks like he has had so much botox injected into his face. He has no wrinkles and has has his eyes done so they dont look squinty.
The recent clip where he's accepting some Friend of Gays award and says "We're the United States of Ameri-got-it" indicates that whatever they're giving him it's not helping his brain.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2025 12:07 AM (ciXcx)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 08, 2025 12:09 AM (mT+6a)
268Ha! It really is SF disco tinsel. Twiki the robot didn't send chills down your spine?
Posted by: All Hail Eris
Twiki was in Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (1979) (which I knew by cultural osmosis even though I've never seen it). What Weasel linked was Planet Outlaws (1953) with Buster Crabbe. Only watched ten minutes, but I don't think it had a Twiki.
Twiki is also a Perl-based structured wiki application, according to Professor Wikipedia. 🤖
269
I suspect Hanks is a bit worse then the average Hollywood Him-Bo.
One young actor committed suicide after claiming Hanks molested him and Hanks had a really weird hobby of posting pictures of lost little kids clothes and making up stories about what happened to those kids on twitter before people found out about it and he deleted all those posts.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2025 12:11 AM (sKqQm)
270
"I thought all he had was a soccer ball and coconuts he couldn't figure out how to open."
I always thought that movie would've been funnier if, at the end of the movie when he was delivering those packages he salvaged, one of the people said "OMG, my GPS unit and satellite phone! I wondered what happened to that package!"
Posted by: PabloD at December 08, 2025 12:12 AM (GALGA)
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:13 AM (rdVOm)
272Rainmandodo only 'hates' russki because they're no longer *soviet* and no longer murd3r their own citizens by the 10s of thousands.
I remember when a big political point in the 2012 election was Mittens arguing Russia was still our enemy and Obalala and the FNM calling him a bigot stuck in a cold war mindset.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 08, 2025 12:13 AM (sKqQm)
273
_. 1h
Over 20,000 Pounds Of Cocaine Seized By US Coast Guard
www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6yeLNNVa4A
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 12:14 AM (4pFA9)
274
I remember when a big political point in the 2012 election was Mittens arguing Russia was still our enemy and Obalala and the FNM calling him a bigot stuck in a cold war mindset.
Posted by: 18-1
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Yeah, *somebody* should tell the Dims that "The nineteen-eighties called, and they want their foreign policy back"
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:16 AM (rdVOm)
275
AOP, I was away for most of the gun thread but read the comments later. You asked a question about whether the A-bombs being dropped on military bases vs. the two cities might have affected Japanese surrender calculations.
Unknowable of course, but seems unlikely. The actual surrender decision was forced on the military (esp. the Army) by the emperor. Selection of cities was to produce shock by erasing whole cities with a single bomb. This didn't work on the military, no surprise. Whether it "worked" on Hirohito et al is unknown, but at a minimum it was an excellent rationale for surrender - and was specifically cited as such in the radio address.
But both A-bomb target cities had military significance, Hiroshima by far the most. It is estimated that Hiroshima bombing killed up to *20K* military personnel. It destroyed the HQ and many related personnel of the 2nd General Army, responsible for defense of Kyushu, which Japan correctly assessed as the target of the US' first invasion effort.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2025 12:17 AM (U/Byj)
276
264 Forrest Gump is one of those flicks that I’ve never been able to watch all the way through. Irritating AF.
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 12:18 AM (77rzZ)
277Throw up a hand if you can remember when Johnny Bench was out there spraying Krylon on every fucking object he encountered.
Johnny Bench also hawks emu oil..."won't stink!"
https://youtu.be/_-AyRC-yMRQ
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2025 12:20 AM (ynpvh)
278
United States secretary of commerce, Howard Lutnick:
@StockSavvyShay , 13h
Lutnick just said U.S. needs a real nuclear arsenal & power capacity to anchor its future strength
Don't think Lutnik was reccomending these stock but StockSavvy was saying this is where the boom will be.
Small form nuclear reactors knocking down windmills all over America.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 12:21 AM (4pFA9)
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JQ,
Only if you join me here at the end of the bar.
You are such a dear. Thank you for taking care of us morons.
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273 _. 1h
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6yeLNNVa4A
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Life lessons - Harry Chapin's 30,000 pounds of bananas better than 20,000 lbs of cartel. https://tinyurl.com/bdedmzxe
Posted by: scampydog at December 08, 2025 12:25 AM (41CYW)
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Morgan Stanley downgrades TSLA to Equal Weight as analyst Andrew Percoco takes over coverage from Adam Jonas (who moved to a different internal role):
"Assuming coverage at Equal-weight (from Overweight previously). Increasing price target to $425 (from $410)."
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Tesla closed at $455 today.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 12:26 AM (4pFA9)
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Just saw a picture of Sleepy Joe Biden and he looks like he has had so much botox injected into his face. He has no wrinkles and has has his eyes done so they dont look squinty. I thought he was in deaths door from the cancer but it looks like he was lying again and has work done on his face.
Posted by: Megthered at December 07, 2025 11:30 PM (kmh+J)
Its pre embalming.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2025 12:28 AM (snZF9)
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Ok, nurse! It'll be good to just *sit* for a few.
I'm having a Peppermint Patty. Kind of a sweet drink, but my tummy can't handle a Margarita this late, LOL
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:28 AM (rdVOm)
284 Just read something JD Vance told about Trump a while back. JD and Marco and a third guy whom Vance didn't name for soon to be apparent reasons were in the Oval Office with Trump discussing some big problem.
Trump got distracted by their shoes, telling them they all had shitty shoes. He calls someone in to bring him a shoe catalog and buys all of them 4 pairs of good shoes.
He's asks their sizes. Marco was 11.5 JD was 13. The other guy was a size 7. Trump looks at him, shakes his head, and says you can tell a lot about a guy by the size of his shoes.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 08, 2025 12:29 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Bulg at December 08, 2025 12:33 AM (77rzZ)
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220 You're welcome. Appreciate the kind words.
58F is cold to you? I'd still be playing golf. In shorts!
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2025 11:33 PM (BBMJX)
I was being a little facetious- we were in shirt-sleeves. But it doesn't get much colder than that at night. Maybe lo 40's at night for a few weeks but warms right up once the sun is out.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 08, 2025 12:34 AM (QGaXH)
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I've been busy adding more colored lights, since Doof wasn't happy with the current mix... I *told* him those pics were all taken before colored lights were added! *sigh*
It's important for people to see well enough to not trip over anything and having white lights mixed in will help with that. (plus, I can see better during cleanup time!)
So, here's what my day was mostly like:
tinyurl.com/3deexb9n
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:40 AM (rdVOm)
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290 229 Anyone who thinks 58 degrees is cold can just get the eff off my lawn, regardless of age.
That’s practically Hawaiian shirt weather for me.
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 11:38 PM (77rzZ)
OMG! I hit a noirve! Da noirve! (In my best Moe/Curly or Bugs voice)
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 08, 2025 12:38 AM (QGaXH)
It'll be nice tomorrow: sunny and 76°F for the high.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2025 12:42 AM (ynpvh)
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Hey Horde, I went to a Pearl harbor remembrance ceremony a few towns over on the USS Salem, I went there last year too, both very cold days, especially near the water. I stopped at the AMVETS on the way home and got myself a tree not much taller than I am. It is currently adjusting to room temperature in the back hall.
Stateless, Haffourshower and BC, you best get your asses to the Christmas party on Saturday night, JQ has knocked herself out with the decor.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 08, 2025 12:44 AM (0nHVk)
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229 Anyone who thinks 58 degrees is cold can just get the eff off my lawn, regardless of age.
That’s practically Hawaiian shirt weather for me.
Posted by: Bulg at December 07, 2025 11:38 PM (77rzZ)
Nice, light jacket or sweatshirt. Can do things without working up a sweat.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2025 12:46 AM (snZF9)
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Good night, JQ, you keep being you, a most wonderful member of the Horde.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 08, 2025 12:46 AM (0nHVk)
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Hello, Debby. Sounds like you had a memorable evening!
Ooooo, a *real* tree! They smell soooooo good...
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:47 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 12:49 AM (4pFA9)
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Leaving already, DDS? Or did you think I was clocking out?
I was merely wishing a good night to the sleepyheads what left...
Will keep playing some mellow tunes, if anyone's still around.
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:49 AM (rdVOm)
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259 Just went inside. 73F...
Gonna go back outside to warm up in the infamous 321.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 08, 2025 12:02 AM (/lPRQ)
South Florida? Hawaii? Or not in US?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 08, 2025 12:51 AM (QGaXH)
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Thought I punched in the numbers for that whole Vince Guaraldi Trio album...
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:52 AM (rdVOm)
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Just went inside. 73F...
Gonna go back outside to warm up in the infamous 321.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 08, 2025 12:02 AM (/lPRQ)
Oh wait - 321 Area code. I grew up in the 305. 321 was parents final AC.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 08, 2025 12:52 AM (QGaXH)
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261 Something neat for us 80s kids that YouTube's algorithm just gifted me with: Mr. Mister doing "Broken Wings" in September of this year. Richard Page sounds phenomenal for 72, singing in the same key as the original 1985 record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1ooe4KDzMo
Posted by: Ian S.
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I went back in time and remembered I had hair. I enjoyed that!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 08, 2025 12:55 AM (sAmhv)
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Leaving already, DDS? Or did you think I was clocking out?
I was merely wishing a good night to the sleepyheads what left...
Will keep playing some mellow tunes, if anyone's still around.
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:49 AM (rdVOm)
I'm good for awhile. Tree is done, the little manger thing is in place, my mother's 125+ year old Santa ornament is in place up near top. They say it isn't over til the fat lady sings, the tree isn't done til that old ass santa is in place. Its was her rule, once that sucker is on there you don't go near the tree, you don't shake it, you don't try to add more ornaments, you don't frigging breath on it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2025 12:55 AM (snZF9)
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 12:57 AM (4pFA9)
Top ornament was always *last* at our house, too. Usually one of those fancy molded glass spires, but sometimes a star topper. Not sure what happened to the angel topper, guess it got lost or broken...
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:59 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 01:06 AM (rdVOm)
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JQ, I did think that you were headed out, I am glad that you are still here. When my kids were little and helped to decorate the tree (they were way too young to drinkorate back then) all of the ornaments were only on the bottom third of the tree so after they went to bed hubs and I would rearrange them. One daughter without fail would complain the next morning that her ornaments had been moved.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 08, 2025 01:07 AM (0nHVk)
Top ornament was always *last* at our house, too. Usually one of those fancy molded glass spires, but sometimes a star topper. Not sure what happened to the angel topper, guess it got lost or broken...
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 12:59 AM (rdVOm)
This isn't a topper. Its a 3 inch tall santa, german made, most likely very late 1800's. The angel tree toppers don't seem to last around here. I think I'm on my 3rd one. They gradually get all kinds of burnt up on the inside from all the bulbs in there. I DO actually have the one my parents had when they first got married, so probably from the very late 50's. Its a star shape, and each point is one of those old world colored screw in bulbs, but I think it shorted out, so I'm going to rewire it. I keep promising myself to do it, but then I forget, and during the tree routine I think shit, I never did it. Although, I'm a little ahead of schedule, so maybe I'll burn through it and get it done and stick it on one of the smaller trees. Now, where did I put that damn thing....
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2025 01:16 AM (snZF9)
I think that's why Mom let us have "our own" ornaments to hang-- to limit the amount of visual chaos on the tree-- Mom would put on all the other "regular" ornaments and she didn't rearrange anything (afaik, lol).
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 01:17 AM (rdVOm)
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Don't think Lutnik was reccomending these stock but StockSavvy was saying this is where the boom will be.
Small form nuclear reactors knocking down windmills all over America.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 08, 2025 12:21 AM (4pFA9)
Time for USA to annex Saskatchewan and Alberta. Oil, gas, coal, and a fuckton of uranium and potash. Sask may also have large lithium potential from brine wells (exploration ongoing), and also some Helium.
Way to do it? Make an offer to buy: 100,000 greenback dollars to every adult Canadian citizen normally resident in Alberta or Saskatchewan, if an annexation vote passes by simple majority. Even those who voted against annexation get the payment, should the vote pass. If they are dead set against becoming Americans, the hundred G's should ease their migration into the rump of Canada.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2025 01:18 AM (npFr7)
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314 South Florida? Hawaii? Or not in US?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)
Space Coast
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 08, 2025 01:14 AM (/lPRQ)
Spent a fair amount time in Cocoa Beach on business at various times.
Parents final resting place is in Palm Bay.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 08, 2025 01:20 AM (QGaXH)
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>>Its a 3 inch tall santa, german made, most likely very late 1800's.
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Oh, I misread. Wow, what a special ornament!
Do send a picture to TRex-- did you see the hobby thread yesterday? Pictures of Horde ornaments requested.
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm)
Shambles out door....heads home to do some California dreamin......
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 08, 2025 01:25 AM (QGaXH)
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Well I am one and done and off to bed. I can't sleep in my own bed tonight, too many boxes and bags and ribbons and tags. I will sleep in my daughters' room. Sweet dreams Horde, you all are the best.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 08, 2025 01:26 AM (0nHVk)
No children of my own, but cats changed the way I decorated LOL. No more tinsel. No glass ornaments near the bottom. (or *at all* when tiny kitten would climb the tree). Forced me to expand the collection of wooden and plastic ornaments, they did.
Kitten would eat the ribbon, too. No more ribbon! Bows only, for a while.
There was this one big jingle-bell that I'd hang on the lowest branch for Tramp, the Big Kitty. She'd be on her back, under the tree, and just reach up to swat it from time to time. Lazy girl, haha.
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 01:39 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 08, 2025 01:45 AM (+I6Y/)
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Baby, our old doggo, had a stretchy red & white velvety collar with 4 jingle bells on it.. She *loved* it! Of course, she loved any noise-maker, and especially squeaky toys.
I thought she'd try to wiggle out of it, but no, she pranced around when I put that thing on her. And shake her head just to make it jingle.
She was the Best.
Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2025 01:45 AM (rdVOm)
Gun Thread: December 7th Edition!
Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!
Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be December 7th? This is the 84th anniversary of the Jap sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, so never forget the 2,403 killed, and the 1,178 injured that day. Here is a link to the National WWII Museum in New Orleans and a page on the events of that day.
With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?
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FUNdamentals
So if you aren't focusing on fundamentals, what are you doing when you're at the range?
Seriously, I'm curious what your usual range trip process looks like if it's not focusing on fundamentals. Do you have a methodology that works better for you? Please let us know in the comments.
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Indoor range Shooting Drills
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Traffic Stop While Armed
How would you handle this situation? Probably best to have a plan before it happens.
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Are You Well Groomed?
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Our Pals Bennies and Goofballs
With Paul Newman!
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Highway Patrol!
This week's episode: Temptation!
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Planet Outlaws!
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Cigar-O-Rama Links
Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.
Cigarsinternational.com Cigarpage.com Famous-smoke.com Cigarsdaily.com Neptunecigar.com Smallbatchcigar.com Bobalu Cigar Company Cigarbid.com Nicks Cigar WorldNew!A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid
Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!
That's it for this week - have you been to the range?
"As of early 2025, approximately 66,000 American World War II veterans are still alive, according to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, representing less than 0.5% of the 16.4 million Americans who served during the conflict."
WWII veterans were still young men in my youth. My first baseball coach fought on Iwo Jima.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:04 PM (jc0TO)
How is your new rifle?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:02 PM
Can't complain. You?
The Savage is a joy to shoot. I printed just under 1/2 MOA at 200 yards, and I wasn't in the best of form, so I have high hopes for it.
Just got new rings for my Strike Eagle and got it mounted on the Winchester. If the weather cooperates, I'll zero during some Christmas vacation time.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)
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11 How would you handle this situation? Probably best to have a plan before it happens.
In Kali, if it's in my car, I have to have my gun unloaded, in a gun case in the trunk, not locked with its ammo...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:04 PM (ynpvh)
Also, DON'T undo your seatbelt...that'll lead to another fine in Kali when the officer comes up to your window...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:07 PM (ynpvh)
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Also, we had WWI men around. They seem to have all quietly slipped away when I wasn't looking.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:07 PM (jc0TO)
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"How would you handle this situation? Probably best to have a plan before it happens."
I think I am in compliance with the way I travel with my firearms.
Guns are in a case, unloaded and locked.
Ammo is in another case, locked.
Everything is at the back of my Jeep.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:07 PM (GAjdx)
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Speaking of FUNdamentals...prostate exam tomorrow.
Ugh.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 07:08 PM (2WIwB)
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Went to the range twice this week. Testing stuff.
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:09 PM (RoO7G)
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at December 07, 2025 07:10 PM (sAmhv)
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It makes me feel old to realize that the Vietnam war is just short of being twice as distant in time to college students today as WWII was to me when I was in college.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:10 PM (jc0TO)
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While traveling to the TxMoMe X I was concerned about being stopped and asked the question: do you have any guns in the car?
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:11 PM (RoO7G)
I wonder if you have the same trigger as I do. I LOVE that trigger!!
With the little cold weather we have had, I do not think a trip up to NH is in the forecast.
May have to wait until Red lets us know when the mini MoMe is.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:11 PM (GAjdx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 07:11 PM (pkeXY)
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USS Arizona Memorial news: USN divers and salvage teams completed removal of some 150 tons of concrete from the wreck of the USS Arizona last week. The concrete was placed in 1942 to support cranes that removed the 14" gun turrets and sections of the ship's superstructure above the water. The USN and National Park Service decided to remove the concrete this year to reduce the stress on the deteriorating hull of the wreck below.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:12 PM (BCwQW)
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16 Also, we had WWI men around. They seem to have all quietly slipped away when I wasn't looking.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:07 PM (jc0TO)
Last one over a decade ago...within the next 10 or 15 years so it'll be the WW2 guys.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:12 PM (ynpvh)
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18 Speaking of FUNdamentals...prostate exam tomorrow.
Ugh.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 07:08 PM (2WIwB)
Nothing to worry about, unless both his hands are on your waist...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:13 PM (ynpvh)
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Good evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special Japan-you-started-it anniversary greeting to our host Weasel.
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Also, we had WWI men around. They seem to have all quietly slipped away when I wasn't looking.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:07 PM (jc0TO)
At the little airport where I grew up in SW Washington, there was an old guy who was like a grandpa to me. He flew fighters in WW 1. Also there was one of the hardest men I ever saw. He was a Ranger who scaled the cliff at Pont du Hoc on D Day. He made it about a third of the way up before getting shit in the leg.
Tough men both.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 07:13 PM (2WIwB)
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Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:09 PM
Blaster, small world story for you. I was at my range a couple weeks ago when an air rifle match was going on. Saw a guy in a Hudson High sweatshirt and Army rifle hat. Being on the team myself back in the day, I had to stop and chat. Turns out one of his girls is a Yearling. My club has sent a handful of kids to the Army rifle team over the years.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 07:14 PM (Wnv9h)
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Also, we had WWI men around. They seem to have all quietly slipped away when I wasn't looking.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:07 PM (jc0TO)
"Old soldiers never die, they just fade away."
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:14 PM (BCwQW)
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I had a proctologist once tell me I had the most symmetrical prostate he'd ever felt...I didn't know quite how to react to that.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:14 PM (ynpvh)
33Went to the range twice this week. Testing stuff.
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:09 PM
Are you grading on the curve?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 07:14 PM (0sNs1)
3422 While traveling to the TxMoMe X I was concerned about being stopped and asked the question: do you have any guns in the car?
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:11 PM (RoO7G)
Scoob and I were similarly situated when traveling to Corsicana last year. The answer we decided to give was "sure, lots -- what're you looking for?"
one of my teachers in high school was a Guadalcanal Marine. Wounded, lived with shrapnel in his neck, and a nervous twitch because of that. He was a good man.
Had other teachers who were Korea and Vietnam vets. A rare breed.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 07, 2025 07:15 PM (0aYVJ)
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28 Good evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special Japan-you-started-it anniversary greeting to our host Weasel.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 07, 2025 07:13 PM (v23vE)
They sowed the kamikaze, they reaped the Fat Man and Little Boy...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:15 PM (ynpvh)
one of my teachers in high school was a Guadalcanal Marine. Wounded, lived with shrapnel in his neck, and a nervous twitch because of that. He was a good man.
Had other teachers who were Korea and Vietnam vets. A rare breed.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 07, 2025 07:15 PM (0aYVJ)
had school teachers, principals, college profs that were WW2 vets. All probably gone now, like Dad who passed 4 years ago...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:17 PM (ynpvh)
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Tora tora tora literally means tiger tiger tiger, but that's what it meant 84 years ago today. Abbreviation for totsugeki raigeki, or "charge! torpedo attack!".
Which itself was code for "surprise has been achieved" in the attack, and the slower vulnerable torpedo planes would go in first. However Fuchida fired two flares from the command plane, signaling no surprise had been achieved, so the dive bombers would go in first (one flare = surprise, torpedo planes first).
Fuchida was a slippery witness to almost everything he was involved in. Some speculate he and Genda and Murata (torpedo attack leader) had already decided on the "no surprise" version in advance.
So nobody will ever know if Fuchida screwed up, or what.
And that's part of the rest of the story.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2025 07:17 PM (U/Byj)
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They sowed the kamikaze, they reaped the Fat Man and Little Boy...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:15 PM (ynpvh)
The Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay "urban renewal" plan and the ultimate "get thin quick" diet from Uncle Charlie Lockwood.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:18 PM (BCwQW)
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I wonder if you have the same trigger as I do. I LOVE that trigger!!
With the little cold weather we have had, I do not think a trip up to NH is in the forecast.
May have to wait until Red lets us know when the mini MoMe is.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:11 PM
Dunno. Nice trigger, though. From what Red said, I don't think much long range is in the forecast this winter. Imma wait for June.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 07:19 PM (Wnv9h)
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USS Arizona Memorial news: USN divers and salvage teams completed removal of some 150 tons of concrete from the wreck of the USS Arizona last week. The concrete was placed in 1942 to support cranes that removed the 14" gun turrets and sections of the ship's superstructure above the water. The USN and National Park Service decided to remove the concrete this year to reduce the stress on the deteriorating hull of the wreck below.
Posted by: Ed L
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Wow, hadn't seen that. Thanks Ed.
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No range report.
Only firearm related news is the cheap gun safe I purchased arrived on Thursday.
Lite enough for me to bring through the door into my bedroom.
I will say, you get what you paid for. But this purchase is purely for keeping within NYC regulations.
My rifle did not fit in the cabinet unless I removed the shelf.
The pouches for the handguns are meh.
Also had to put the handguns in backwards.
If I put them in the way the pouch wants me to put them in, the bottom of the mag well would hit the side of the safe when closing.
Have not looked closely enough to see if I could scootch the pouch to the left more. If I can, I will.
When I eventually move, I may or may not take this with me.
But as I said above, it was a purchase to satisfy NYC, so I am not upset at all about the safe.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:19 PM (GAjdx)
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44 They sowed the kamikaze, they reaped the Fat Man and Little Boy...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:15 PM (ynpvh)
The Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay "urban renewal" plan and the ultimate "get thin quick" diet from Uncle Charlie Lockwood.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:18 PM (BCwQW)
Indeed. More died from the firebombing of Tokyo than from the two nukes.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:20 PM (ynpvh)
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Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM (64qRd)
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Naturally, I like to watch gun videos that demonstrate quality firearms that are reliable and accurate; however, I also occasionally enjoy videos that highlight a real piece of junk, if for no other reason than to see the reaction of the person demonstrating it. George Jones at esquad 540 on YouTube has a hilarious video, a few years old now, in which he tests the FIE Titanic - a gun so bad, he never even manages to get off a single shot.
https://tinyurl.com/8498h362
I like George, and, sadly, he is suffering from some form of terminal blood cancer, but he's not letting his illness stop him from going out to the range a couple of days a week and filming content. His newer videos have a link to a Go Fund Me account to cover what he calls his "final expenses", if anybody is interested.
Posted by: Paco at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM (2L+MU)
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Evening, Mr. Weasel and Gub enthusiasts around the world!
Last call for shooting at the long range this winter.
4WD or MK 1 Leather Personnel Carriers for now.
Soon, LPCs only.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM (4dsHO)
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Again, thanks for all of the good insights on selling a number of older firearms...
Unfortunately, a couple of others seemed to have followed me home...
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 07:22 PM (XuXeR)
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34 Scoob and I were similarly situated when traveling to Corsicana last year. The answer we decided to give was "sure, lots -- what're you looking for?"
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 07, 2025 07:14 PM
Yep, planning on driving again next year. If you are able to join me Schnor you are more than welcome.
But I get the feeling Mrs Schnor will be making the trek again. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:22 PM (GAjdx)
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49 Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM (64qRd)
My Dad, whose troop transport headed for Japan, expecting to die there only to find out the war was over upon arrival, certainly had an opinion.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:23 PM (ynpvh)
5533 Went to the range twice this week. Testing stuff.
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:09 PM
Are you grading on the curve?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 07:14 PM (0sNs1)
I should. Second trip was to test an AR15 with a Super Safety. I had dry-fire tested for function prior. Got to the range and found it safe but not super. Dry fire function did not work either.
Brought it home and disassembled to troubleshoot.
DOH! User error! It had been a bit since I installed it so I forgot how it worked.
A super safety replaces the safe/fire selector on the AR with a cross bolt type with three positions. All the way left is safe. All the way right is semi. And the middle position is the supersafety position. Dummy me I was going all the way right expecting super safe (forced reset) fire.
And why didn't it go super safe on me when I used the middle position? Only one round in the mag when I was shooting what I thought was semi.
Gah. So yes I should grade on the curve.
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:25 PM (RoO7G)
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Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM
Is there really a discussion? They're wicked retahded. This is a Known Thing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 07:25 PM (Wnv9h)
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Shoulda been "that's NOT what it meant 84 years ago today". Duh.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2025 07:26 PM (U/Byj)
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My Dad was a WWII vet. And I am pretty sure most of the male teachers in my school were WWII or Korea.
Do not remember having any teachers who would have fought in the War to end all Wars.
My Grandfather was a WWI vet but he passed a couple years before I was born.
Bless them all.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (GAjdx)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (A0sqA)
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My Dad, whose troop transport headed for Japan, expecting to die there only to find out the war was over upon arrival, certainly had an opinion.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:23 PM (ynpvh)
Jim, my dad was over in China awaiting the same. They were more immediately concerned with Mao and Chiang Kai Shek duking it out.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (4dsHO)
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So nobody will ever know if Fuchida screwed up, or what.
And that's part of the rest of the story.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2025 07:17 PM (U/Byj)
Jon Parshall and Tony Tully's "Shattered Sword" (THE definitively researched account of Midway to date) argues that Fuchida's account of Midway (the primary source for most Western accounts of Japanese actions during the battle) is complete fiction when compared to surviving Japanese records. One Japanese writer corresponding with the authors called Fuchida's account of Midway "transparent lies." If he made up his account of Midway, is his account of the Pearl Harbor attack worth anything now?
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (BCwQW)
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Is there really a discussion? They're wicked retahded. This is a Known Thing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 07:25 PM (Wnv9h)
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Agreed. Give 'em the ol' bomb-a-roony..
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (64qRd)
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (XuXeR)
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52 Unfortunately, a couple of others seemed to have followed me home...
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 07:22 PM
They are sneaky that way.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:28 PM (GAjdx)
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Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 07:19 PM (IQ6Gq)
The DOD PAO article and local Hawaii news outlets have some pictures and video of the work.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:30 PM (BCwQW)
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My FiL was a D-Day Vet, my first Dentist was a B-17 navigator with many runs from England
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 07:31 PM (Ia/+0)
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Gotta run, but Parshall/Tully mostly (correctly) focused on Fuchida's account of the carrier situation, which they showed could not have been accurate (and it contradicted Japanese carrier normal practices anyway).
The thing about the flare/surprise/no surprise remains insoluble to any high degree of certainty, due to the details. But Fuchida's fibs (including those explained by Parshall/Tully) were diverse and multiple, so doubt attaches to the flare story as well.
He did fire 2 flares. Whether that was a mistake or not is the mystery.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2025 07:31 PM (U/Byj)
68 The Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay "urban renewal" plan and the ultimate "get thin quick" diet from Uncle Charlie Lockwood.
Posted by: Ed L
I was unfamiliar with Charlie Lockwood.
https://t.ly/sGtr7
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 07:31 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (XuXeR)
That used to be the area code for all of So. Cal...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:31 PM (ynpvh)
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My grandfather served in WWI, my uncle in WWII on the USS Randolph, which was kamikaze'd. My uncle on his ship guarded the mouth of Tokyo Bay during the signing of the treaty...and how do I know these things? From my own research, because no one ever talked about any of it...
7218 Speaking of FUNdamentals...prostate exam tomorrow.
Ugh.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 07:08 PM
Be sure to inform your doctor of the "no wobbly shit" rule!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 07, 2025 07:33 PM (HlyYF)
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AR-15 allegedly found under Florida college student’s bed after he ordered 1,500 rounds of ammo to dorm
Goes to NY Post
https://tinyurl.com/yxxfaycz
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 07:34 PM (9bIJg)
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Only problem with the cop interaction video was the lack of addressing non-Texas jurisdictions. Some will know you are authorized to carry (and will assume you are) via your license plate. Some won't, but state law requires you to say something. Some will just assume you're carrying regardless of license.
But most of the big points are there. It's a traffic stop, so handle it calmly, without an attitude, assume the officer is acting in good faith, and show him how nice a guy/gal you are.
Missing? If he asks to lean in, I would tell him no. Don't admit to anything (at least, not before he tells you why he pulled you over).
(I would also ask the officer if he wants me to clear my handgun, if he wants me to pull it out and hand it over. Show him you're a safe person.)
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 07:35 PM (nuE1e)
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My father took out a suicide boat near Okinawa 16May1945.
0100 hours. A shadow off the stern of his wooden hulled minesweeper "didn't look right" so he went to the aft deck gun and began to unload rounds. There was a huge explosion. No one hurt, and minimal damage. No medal or special recognition. Uncommon valor was a common virtue.
But one or two Jap sailors didn't come home.
My dad did.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 07:35 PM (XQo4F)
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Quick range report, did some drills with Bubba Fly my bubba-fied G17. All went well. It is a good gun, I don't need no Gen 6 Glock. (I'll keep repeating that).
After that, did some drills with my G44 comparing again to the Taurus TX22. The Nurse likes the Taurus, ironically because of the thumb safety. Different strokes for different folks...
I did a little shooting with a Ruger MK IV Hunter and got a nice tight group but it is heavy and out of a .22, it's easy to print tight groups.
Will need to adjust the sights on the Taurus. Seems like the G44 gets better groups with the Federal Automatch.
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70 My grandfather served in WWI, my uncle in WWII on the USS Randolph, which was kamikaze'd. My uncle on his ship guarded the mouth of Tokyo Bay during the signing of the treaty...and how do I know these things? From my own research, because no one ever talked about any of it...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 07:32 PM (IQ6Gq)
My grandfather and his two brothers served in the Great War. Dad and his BILs (one current, one future) served as well. When the war was over, Dad ended up with a pair of Nambu pistols, quite a few swords, an Arisaka rifle, and some other stuff. He was pissed when my uncle traded the Nambu for a mechanical typewriter. He was caught by an officer boxing up a light machine gun; officer told him, "You plan on starting a war back home, soldier?"...LT probably ended up with the machine gun...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:36 PM (ynpvh)
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If you had a Honda Prelude you called the "Lude" we might have hung out in 1978.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 07:36 PM (A0sqA)
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I indulged in some nostalgia this week. About 45 years ago Mrs. JTB and I had our first date. We went to an indoor target range using a Ruger Single-Six with 9.5 inch barrel. First time she ever shot a firearm and she was deadly at 50 feet. (I learned respect real fast.) At some point I sold that revolver but have always missed it. This week I found a used version at a price I couldn't resist. It is pristine, either hardly fired or well maintained. Yes, it followed me home. I hope to get to the range this week.
It was made in 2014 which makes it the youngest Ruger I own. Most of mine are from the 1950s to the 80s. The 9.5" barrel edition is still made but few places carry it in stock. I plan to use it mostly with the magnum cylinder as I have other platforms for 22lr. This version was designed for silhouette and I'm curious to see how it does when the targets are 50 to 100 yards away.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 07:37 PM (yTvNw)
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Have a good night everyone
Long commute tomorrow for me
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 07:37 PM (Ia/+0)
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80 Have a good night everyone
Long commute tomorrow for me
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 07:37 PM (Ia/+0)
Safe trip.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:38 PM (ynpvh)
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And I got a weird feeling realizing that today was SUNDAY Dec 7th. Just like in 1941. Time marches on.
Japan is likely to fall into a backwater who makes high tech gizmos but otherwise has no impact on the world stage. In the 1930's it was very different....
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Indeed. More died from the firebombing of Tokyo than from the two nukes.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:20 PM (ynpvh)
M47. M69, and M74 bombs filled w/ napalm bomblets, wooden construction in the most densely populated neighborhoods in Tokyo, totally inadequate firefighting capabilities, and high winds the night of the raid made for an extremely deadly combination.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:39 PM (BCwQW)
Took son#1 to the range yesterday. He was practicing with his G19 and doing very well. It’s a good gun for him.
I am so blessed to get to shoot with my kids. And they are GOOD!
He also shot my Pointman 7. Damn. It’s a great 1911. Love it.
I think about being pulled over with a firearm in my possession a lot. I do have an advantage as I’m female over you guys. I will disclose information if asked, but will otherwise just hand over my license and carry permit when asked. I don’t normally carry in a holster in the car, but use my console or off body vest. Easy to get out of the car and just take off the vest if officer wants to disarm me. I would not take a pistol out of the console to hand over. I would get out of the car and let the officer do it if they insisted.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 07:39 PM (mT+6a)
Took son#1 to the range yesterday. He was practicing with his G19 and doing very well. It’s a good gun for him.
I am so blessed to get to shoot with my kids. And they are GOOD!
He also shot my Pointman 7. Damn. It’s a great 1911. Love it.
I think about being pulled over with a firearm in my possession a lot. I do have an advantage as I’m female over you guys. I will disclose information if asked, but will otherwise just hand over my license and carry permit when asked. I don’t normally carry in a holster in the car, but use my console or off body vest. Easy to get out of the car and just take off the vest if officer wants to disarm me. I would not take a pistol out of the console to hand over. I would get out of the car and let the officer do it if they insisted.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 07:40 PM (mT+6a)
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Another anniversary of much less serious import, which involved no bravery at all, is the publication of The Deplorable Gourmet eight years ago. We didn't plan it that way, it just happened.
Posted by: bluebell at December 07, 2025 07:40 PM (79pEw)
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Great story...very glad it followed you home.
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Somewhere in the top 100?
No range time, just chatted up a couple of the laser training systems with the wife’s chief pastor and a couple of like minded fellows from her church.
Good evening to all the GunHorde and thank you Weasel on this December 7.
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 07, 2025 07:42 PM (O5Ote)
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AR-15 allegedly found under Florida college student’s bed after he ordered 1,500 rounds of ammo to dorm
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 07:34 PM (9bIJg)
Bet he's a straight-B student. Except for the delivery to his dorm. Should have rented a UPS Store box.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 07:43 PM (qT5l+)
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"Always yield to temptation, you may not get a second chance."
I was in the gun store, taking care of my usual transactions, when I spotted a pair of new Ruger Super Redhawk revolvers with 7 1/2 inch barrels in the display case. They were reasonably priced and I showed some restraint. I only took one of them, and I put it on layaway to pick up in January.
Why do I even mention this? It is a .480 Ruger, the product of people who looked at the .44 Magnum and said "Hold my beer." A .44 Magnum throws a 240 grain bullet at 1500 fps. The .480 does 1500 fps with a 325 grain bullet.
I don't know what I'm going to do with it, my big game hunting days being over, but I bet it will be spectacular. "See that rock out there? Way out there? Hold my soda pop and watch this."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 07:43 PM (4mmkh)
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Ok, gun College story. I bought a 9mm as soon as I turned 21 in college. I kept it in my dorm because safer there. My roommate went through my drawers and found it, told the RA.
The Resident Assistant...wanted to know if I was a cop. Because apparently everyone on the floor assumed I was a cop for some reason.
Pretty funny. No, didn't get in trouble. Stored the Taurus PT 92 in my car after that.
97 49 Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM
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I have seen the version of this which claims Japan was on the verge of surrender, and the nuclear weapons were employed gratuitously to scare the Russians. I don't believe a word of it.
Even after military defeats, the burning of their cities, a blockade which reduced them to starvation, two atom bombs and the promise of more to come, Japan's surrender was a near-run thing. A military coup was attempted to prevent broadcast of the emperor's surrender speech.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 07:45 PM (VWtfl)
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And Bravo Zulu (whatever that means) to bluebell and Weasel. First crowd sourced project for AOS.
And, through persistence (or pity), I won a cookbook.
Then bought one for Christmas!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:45 PM (QAQdw)
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Ironically, Paul Newman's son died of an alcohol and drug overdose.
It inspired him to begin his philanthropic efforts, starting with the drug center, then expanding into Newman's Own food products and the Hole in the Wall Gang.
Newman's legacy in CT is immense. You can see it all over Westport.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2025 07:45 PM (0CU3H)
100AR-15 allegedly found under Florida college student’s bed after he ordered 1,500 rounds of ammo to dorm
Yeah, some of those Black Friday deals were pretty hard to pass up.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 07:45 PM (3nLb4)
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Went to the range Saturday morning. I’m converting my revolvers to red dot sights and in really liking them. The flavor of the week was a S&W model 15-7 (LEO trade-in) in 38 Spl with a Viridian RFX-25 green dot. Makes those steel plates quiver!
Posted by: Jackdaddy63 at December 07, 2025 07:46 PM (l5Vun)
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I grew up in a navy town and December 7th was always acknowledged. When younger, there were still plenty of WW II veterans still in uniform and stories about Pearl Harbor were never in short supply.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 07:46 PM (yTvNw)
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And Bravo Zulu (whatever that means) to bluebell and Weasel. First crowd sourced project for AOS.
And, through persistence (or pity), I won a cookbook.
Then bought one for Christmas!
Posted by: RI Red
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I love the one TRex gifted me...{waves to RI Red from chilly VA}
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Posted by: Jackdaddy63 at December 07, 2025 07:46 PM (l5Vun)
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Howdy and Welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:47 PM (6/oTW)
105 95 Ok, gun College story. I bought a 9mm as soon as I turned 21 in college. I kept it in my dorm because safer there. My roommate went through my drawers and found it, told the RA.
The Resident Assistant...wanted to know if I was a cop. Because apparently everyone on the floor assumed I was a cop for some reason.
Pretty funny. No, didn't get in trouble. Stored the Taurus PT 92 in my car after that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 07, 2025 07:43 PM (xcxpd)
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Why did he go through your drawers?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 07:47 PM (VWtfl)
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Jon Parshall and Tony Tully's "Shattered Sword" (THE definitively researched account of Midway to date) argues that Fuchida's account of Midway (the primary source for most Western accounts of Japanese actions during the battle) is complete fiction when compared to surviving Japanese records. One Japanese writer corresponding with the authors called Fuchida's account of Midway "transparent lies." If he made up his account of Midway, is his account of the Pearl Harbor attack worth anything now?
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:27 PM (BCwQW)
This is a good book. I'm not 100% convinced but the man did his research
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I was thinking about that today. We need to have lunch!
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:41 PM (6/oTW)
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We do indeed!
Posted by: bluebell at December 07, 2025 07:48 PM (79pEw)
110(I would also ask the officer if he wants me to clear my handgun, if he wants me to pull it out and hand it over. Show him you're a safe person.)
I was stopped in north TX a couple of months ago driving a rental car. The officer didn't ask and I didn't volunteer.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 07:49 PM (3nLb4)
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When I took 'Military History 1871-Present' taught by Dr Stephen Ambrose (later Colin Powell's advisor), we had a grandson of Andrew Higgins (he of 'Higgins Manufacturing' on Gentilly Hwy). That kid brought in a COMPLETE set of drawings and plans for the construction of the original Higgins Boat later used on D-Day and in the Pacific … I think he mighta gotten an 'A'.
Dr Ambrose donated the schematics / plans to the WWII Museum later on. Damned shame he died so young - he was a great historian.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 07:49 PM (ayRl+)
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And, through persistence (or pity), I won a cookbook.
Then bought one for Christmas!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:45 PM (QAQdw)
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Because if one is good, two is better! Please say hello to Mrs. Red for me.
Posted by: bluebell at December 07, 2025 07:49 PM (79pEw)
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Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM (64qRd)
That's kind of like saying "You should shoot them in the leg."
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 07:50 PM (qT5l+)
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Oh, yeah: Thanks for the leading pic. I think that's the only acknowledgement on an AoS post today of the day that will live in infamy.
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Weasel, any honest assessment of the use of the atomic bombs would have to come to the conclusion that what happened was arguably the best outcome. By August 1945, the USN submarine campaign and USAAF aerial mining of Japanese coastal waters succeeded in reducing the daily average Japanese calorie intake to 1000 calories or less. Had the war dragged on into 1946, mass famine would have killed off hundreds of thousands of Japanese. It's also likely no Allied POW's in Japan would have survived had the war dragged on w/o the nukes getting used.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 07:50 PM (BCwQW)
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I love the one TRex gifted me...{waves to RI Red from chilly VA}
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 07:47 PM (IQ6Gq)
*Attempts to wave from the Frozen North. Decides to wait until Spring, around memorial day.*
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:51 PM (QAQdw)
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Its one of those that you can't tell how it would have gone. Would the Russians have grabbed some of Japan? I'd say... doubtful.
1) amphibious landings are not their thing.
2) they were... brittle at the end of the war. The casualties attacking the Japanese would have been heavy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 07:51 PM (RpcHd)
I have nothing to report but felt duty bound to be here so I don;t get marked absent on my permanent record. I think this is the first Sunday I missed a potential range date just because.Something about this month is stressing me out. Probably better I didn;t have a gun in my hand.
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96 I often wonder how many men I grew up with actually served during WWII and where...of course, in those days you just didn't ask...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 07:44 PM (IQ6Gq)
My grade school principal was cool...was a WW2 Navy guy with hula girl tattooed full length onto his entire forearm. It was said he could make her hula, but he never showed us kids...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:51 PM (ynpvh)
120We went to an indoor target range using a Ruger Single-Six with 9.5 inch barrel. [...] This week I found a used version at a price I couldn't resist.
I still think that pound-for-pound, dollar-for-dollar, the Single Six is the most fun gun ever.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2025 07:52 PM (3nLb4)
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Because if one is good, two is better! Please say hello to Mrs. Red for me.
Posted by: bluebell at December 07, 2025 07:49 PM (79pEw)
Just did; she waved!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:52 PM (QAQdw)
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My other testing was taking the Pietta SAA to the range to see how it handled all 3 different types of ammo - .357, .38, and 9mm. I had shot it with .357 and .38 before and I saw significant difference between the two in point of impact.
I took my pistol rest and the extra cylinder so I could try all three. I set it up at 7 yards, dialed up the rest, and shot seated on a stool.
Well. First, this SAA clone is capable of really tight groups at 7 yards off of the rest. Mechanically it is capable of good accuracy and precision. The sight picture is a little different than a modern pistol - the front blade is well above the grooves of the rear sight to be on target.
With all three calibers the point of impact was identical at 7 yards. Which is NOT my experience shooting it free hand.
So I shot freehand again and that is going to take some work on my fundamentals. I don't quite have grip worked out on the SAA. And it is heavy and the point of balance is very different than the semi-autos I usually shoot. So I just don't shoot it well. It's going to take some practice.
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:52 PM (RoO7G)
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I love the one TRex gifted me...{waves to RI Red from chilly VA}
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 07:47 PM (IQ6Gq)
*Attempts to wave from the Frozen North. Decides to wait until Spring, around memorial day.*
Posted by: RI Red
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I did live in New England for a few years, so truly appreciate the comment....
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116 *Attempts to wave from the Frozen North. Decides to wait until Spring, around memorial day.*
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:51 PM
One of the many reasons to hibernate during the cold season. :-p
Any idea when the mini MoMe will be? I am big on putting in hotel reservations and asking for days off as early as possible :-D
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 07:53 PM (GAjdx)
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Another anniversary of much less serious import, which involved no bravery at all, is the publication of The Deplorable Gourmet eight years ago. We didn't plan it that way, it just happened.
Posted by: bluebell at December 07, 2025 07:40 PM
Bluebell! Talking of recipes, the RMBS Mom did a great job reverse engineering that dip we had at Ithaki a while back.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 07:55 PM (Wnv9h)
126I have nothing to report but felt duty bound to be here so I don;t get marked absent on my permanent record. I think this is the first Sunday I missed a potential range date just because.Something about this month is stressing me out. Probably better I didn;t have a gun in my hand.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 07, 2025 07:51 PM
(in order not to stress sharon out any further, no one mention that tardies are also tracked, m'kay?)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 07:55 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:56 PM (QAQdw)
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Different states have different "duty to inform" requirements. The USCCA app has that info for all of the states. But you have to remember to look for it. The upfront info is about reciprocity.
(Texas and Oklahoma have duty to inform)
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:57 PM (RoO7G)
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RI Red, I still want to learn the art of long guns...do you tolerate rookies at your MoMe?
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*Attempts to wave from the Frozen North. Decides to wait until Spring, around memorial day.*
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:51 PM
Word. It's getting pretty chilly in the next day or two.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 07:58 PM (Wnv9h)
131
Grateful, have you checked out the National Personnel Records Center's website? As next of kin, you should be able to access your relatives' official military records (201 files). None of the files have been digitized, so you'll have to pay in order to have the clerks dig up the paperwork in question, make copies, and mail the copies to you. It may not be cheap, but this is the best way to get a definitive account of your relatives' military service.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:00 PM (BCwQW)
132Another anniversary of much less serious import, which involved no bravery at all, is the publication of The Deplorable Gourmet eight years ago. We didn't plan it that way, it just happened.
Posted by: bluebell at December 07, 2025 07:40 PM
No bravery at all??? I remember someone being apprehensive that she wouldn't get *any* recipes, and then being apprehensive that she wouldn't get enough recipes, and then someone being apprehensive that it wouldn't sell past 10 copies or so.
It takes courage, and several shivs secreted about one's person, but mostly courage, to walk through that long valley of apprehension.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:00 PM (0sNs1)
133
Weasel-san, have the Cozy Caves been deployed?
If so, can we expect regular CC sitreps?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:01 PM (0sNs1)
134
Also, after changing the cylinder on the Pietta the cylinder rod kept sliding forward when I shot it. Turns out there are a couple of detents on the rod that have to be aligned with the button.
So what did we learn from testing at the range, kids?
Know how your stuff works!
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 08:01 PM (RoO7G)
135
C'mon D. Don't I get some credit for being here regardless of what is going on in my life?
136
RI Red, I still want to learn the art of long guns...do you tolerate rookies at your MoMe?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 07:57 PM (IQ6Gq)
Well.
I actually have been thinking about expanding it a bit, especially after shooting long range with Helena Handbasket in TX. And seeing other folks like Sharon come up through the ranks.
It would take a little coordination because the club allows 4 visiitors at a time per member, 2 shooting, 2 observing.
Depending on Jr.’s schedule, we could expand. Maybe Day 1 for beginners and move up top Day 2.
And maybe Weasel can instruct!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:04 PM (3Aazl)
137
Regarding Fuchida, he later claimed that he had advised a third strike at Pearl Harbor to destroy the fuel tanks. However, in their book they point out that when he was interviewed immediately after the war by the us military he mentioned none of that.
Posted by: Rww at December 07, 2025 08:06 PM (fQoI7)
138Bravo Zulu (whatever that means) to bluebell and Weasel. First crowd sourced project for AOS.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 07:45 PM
Dude. This is a Smart Military Blog. You're letting the side down.
140
Weasel-san, have the Cozy Caves been deployed?
If so, can we expect regular CC sitreps?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:01 PM (0sNs1)
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Not yet deployed, but soon!
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 08:07 PM (6/oTW)
141
Next, drop and give us twenty!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:06 PM (0sNs1)
Same as in town!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:08 PM (3Aazl)
142 Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel
Others claimed we should have just blockaded them until they surrendered.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (pkeXY)
143C'mon D. Don't I get some credit for being here regardless of what is going on in my life?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 07, 2025 08:01 PM
Well, a Tardy is better than an Absence.
However, given that the Annual Commentator Review Period is closing in less than a month, do you really want to be adding to Ace and Weasel's Naughty, Not Nice List?
I thought not. #BeBetter
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (0sNs1)
144
the point of balance is very different than the semi-autos
Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2025 07:52 PM (RoO7G)
Something I think lots of people don't get. One of the changes with semi-autos is that the weight shift (as you shoot) takes place inside your grip. All the weight of the ammo in a revolver (and that lessening of the weight as you shoot) is in front of your hand. They've both evolved to be done well in many weapons, but they are different.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (PAf/V)
145
Blaster, if you decide to switch out the grips, make sure that the replacement pair fit the revolver properly. There's no guarantee that the new grips will exactly fit your clone. It should not be a surprise if the grips have to get trimmed a little or if the grips are a millimeter or two short.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:10 PM (BCwQW)
146
That sounds amazing RI Red. Would love to do that.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 07, 2025 08:07 PM
Do it!!!!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:10 PM (Wnv9h)
147
The branch manager of the chemical company I worked with in the '70s was a former 'Black Cat' ('Catalina') pilot (you know, the cool plane with the top wing and 2 engines on it). He flew missions over the Gulf of America to look for German U-boats. Never mentioned whether he found any or not. He's also the person who taught me how to properly use a divider (remember those?) on a printed road map to calculate mileage & distance per the scale printed @ bottom left … helluva guy.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 08:11 PM (ayRl+)
148Same as in town!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:08 PM
LOL, but you're not getting a Bravo Zulu for it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:11 PM (0sNs1)
149
Yo, bitches! I'm packing a gat! What seems to the problem?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 08:12 PM (w6S0H)
150
Do it!!!!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:10 PM (Wnv9h)
Oh, good! First volunteer!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:12 PM (3Aazl)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 08:15 PM (RpcHd)
155
Others claimed we should have just blockaded them until they surrendered.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (pkeXY)
Yeah, so that 80 years later all the proggies could complain about how cruel we were, committing genocide against those poor civilians.
The people who complain about us dropping the bombs wouldn't have been happy with any useful solution, because they are 1) ignorant, 2) stupid, and, often, 3) anti-American.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 08:15 PM (PAf/V)
156
There was just not enough time in Texas to get instruction and there is little opportunity to shoot outdoors here. And big plus is getting to hug some of my favorite people.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 07, 2025 08:16 PM (GAjdx)
158
95 Ok, gun College story. I bought a 9mm as soon as I turned 21 in college. I kept it in my dorm because safer there. My roommate went through my drawers and found it, told the RA.
The Resident Assistant...wanted to know if I was a cop. Because apparently everyone on the floor assumed I was a cop for some reason.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Someone identified you as Joe Mannix.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM (WDjG6)
159
WWII veterans were still young men in my youth. My first baseball coach fought on Iwo Jima.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:04 PM (jc0TO)
I had the honor of serving with WW II vets in 1968. To me, at the time, they were lifers. I was a dumbass kid.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM (LHPAg)
160
Yo, bitches! I'm packing a gat! What seems to the problem?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 08:12 PM
Chris Rock, How to Avoid Getting Your A** Kicked by the Police
https://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM (4mmkh)
161
Oh, good! First volunteer!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:12 PM
Hell, when I get up to southern NH permanently, I'll join.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM (Wnv9h)
162
Chris Rock, How to Avoid Getting Your A** Kicked by the Police
https://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM
Never. Not. Funny.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:18 PM (Wnv9h)
163
Something I think lots of people don't get. One of the changes with semi-autos is that the weight shift (as you shoot) takes place inside your grip. All the weight of the ammo in a revolver (and that lessening of the weight as you shoot) is in front of your hand. They've both evolved to be done well in many weapons, but they are different.
Posted by: GWB
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True. That is often why people shoot heavier firearms better with less practice than lighter ones. Easier to keep still from felt recoil is less, less problem with changing balance, etc.
On something like a GP100 or Redhawk, the minimal change in weight of firing a cylinder worth of ammo results in very little notice to the shooter. Turn that around to a scandium framed or even a lightweight aluminum and it matters more in balance.
Tube fed battle rifles like the Lebel, you get a similar problem as the balance shifted as you shot the magazine down.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:23 PM (WDjG6)
164 Broderick Crawford was the greatest. Tended to be falling down drunk on the set, but his fast talking made up for it.
He had a nickname with the real CHP, "Ol' 502", the code for driving under the influence. His license was suspended several times during the run of the show, and they had to film him driving on private roads, or do other camera tricks to pretend he was driving.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 08:23 PM (w6EFb)
165
>>I grew up in a navy town and December 7th was always acknowledged. When younger, there were still plenty of WW II veterans still in uniform and stories about Pearl Harbor were never in short supply.
You'll be pleased to know the tradition continues on this part of the bay. Today at Veterans Memorial Square, 100 American flags were flow. All of the flags were previously draped on the coffins of veterans from the area and the flags were donated by their families for use on patriotic holidays.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 08:24 PM (viF8m)
Modern Japan sucks less but still...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 07, 2025 07:33 PM (xcxpd)
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Imperial Japan did a heel-turn in the 1920s. Prior to that point, they were very much striving to be considered "civilized." In both the Sino-Japanese War and the Russo-Japanese War they scrupulously followed international conventions regarding treatment of prisoners.
When the admiral of the Chinese fleet killed himself after the Battle of the Yellow Sea, the Japanese fired a full salute in his honor to show respect.
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Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:00 PM (BCwQW)
Many of the records were destroyed in a massive fire at the Center years ago, including my late Father's (WWII, 825th TD BN)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 07, 2025 08:25 PM (2U/dF)
168
Grateful, you can get copies of ship's logs and Action Reports from the Naval History and Heritage Command at the Washington Navy Yard. The Kamikaze attack your uncle survived on USS Randolph would certainly have justified an action report documenting the attack and its aftermath. Again, since a lot of this hasn't been digitized, you may have to pay some $$ in order to have someone from NHHC dig through the archives, make copies, and mail them to you unless you come to the Washington Navy Yard in person.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:26 PM (BCwQW)
169
Guys/Gals, maybe we should do some brainstorming:
Day one morning - Intro to AR15, Zeroing, 100 yards. PM - Ballistic tables, 200 and 300.
Day Two morning, ballistic tables, 300-500. PM, AR 10, ballistics, 500 +.
Survivors out to 1000.
Could be fun.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:26 PM (3Aazl)
170
It is counter intuitive to think that a petite person like me would shoot a heavier gun better than a light one. I was amazed the first time Steck put a heavy gun in my hand. I definitely shoot best with my Kimber 1911 but it is way to big to be a carry gun.
171
If I promise to behave, can I come to the next Mo-me in Texas? I’m in Houston, so it can’t be more than a day’s drive
Posted by: Jackdaddy63 at December 07, 2025 08:26 PM (l5Vun)
172
The HP lieutenant puts a hanky over the glass case AFTER he picks it up and covers it with his prints. Oy vey, that's bad police work.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 08:27 PM (qipSb)
173
Broderick Crawford was the greatest. Tended to be falling down drunk on the set, but his fast talking made up for it.
He had a nickname with the real CHP, "Ol' 502", the code for driving under the influence. His license was suspended several times during the run of the show, and they had to film him driving on private roads, or do other camera tricks to pretend he was driving.
Posted by: publius
Sucks it's not on any service, be it Prime, Hulu, Peacock, Tubi, etc.
That and Mr Ed got me thru my insomnia and 1st divorce.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 08:27 PM (9bIJg)
174 Broderick Crawford cameo bit on a 1977 episode of CHiPs:
https://is.gd/BtX9Ub
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 08:28 PM (w6EFb)
175
I had the honor of serving with WW II vets in 1968. To me, at the time, they were lifers. I was a dumbass kid.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM (LHPAg)
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I recall WW II being active and out there, and the WW I guys were slowed down, really old. The Vietnam vets were young men.
One of the weird things is how long the GWOT went, and the fact that I never got to be a "young" veteran. Who knew staying in "for the duration" meant a 20-year hitch?
176
162 Chris Rock, How to Avoid Getting Your A** Kicked by the Police
https://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM
Never. Not. Funny.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Back before Obama's Second Term, I used to show that segment to my Criminal Procedure class. No complaints from students.
Once Obama's race crap spun into high gear in the second term, no way in hell would I do something like that. I found safer non funny cop encounter videos to show to make the same point.
Never argue with a cop and his gun on the side of the road, disengage as quickly as you can. Save the arguments for court if you truly are wronged.
Not a bad idea anymore to actually have live video in your car from dashcams, etc. Unless of course you are the guy that is a menace on the highway.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:29 PM (WDjG6)
177
9 Japan was foolish that day, my friends.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:02 PM (jc0TO)
Tactically no. Strategically yes.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 08:29 PM (4786I)
CI is running a decent special. Ten packs of some decent blends on sale with $20 cert for next purchase, and free shipment + 10% off for vets.
Just scored some Man o War Armadas. 10 @ $5.77 each to the door. The must be good with over a hundred reviews and solid 5 star rating. Normally over $20 each.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 08:30 PM (/lPRQ)
179
Posted by: Jackdaddy63 at December 07, 2025 08:26 PM (l5Vun)
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Sometime next summer keep an eye on the main page left sidebar and send Ben Had a note expressing interest.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 08:30 PM (gzL+K)
180
Sucks it's not on any service, be it Prime, Hulu, Peacock, Tubi, etc.
That and Mr Ed got me thru my insomnia and 1st divorce.
Posted by: rickb223
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Try youtube. A lot of times it will have videos posted that are no longer of interest to streaming channels.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:30 PM (WDjG6)
181Guys/Gals, maybe we should do some brainstorming:
Day one morning - Intro to AR15, Zeroing, 100 yards. PM - Ballistic tables, 200 and 300.
Day Two morning, ballistic tables, 300-500. PM, AR 10, ballistics, 500 +.
Survivors out to 1000.
Could be fun.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:26 PM
I'm liking this idea. Two diner breakfasts!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:31 PM (Wnv9h)
182
Nope, haven't been to the range. I'm waiting for the weather to break and maybe sneak in some time at the DNR range.
For a variety of reasons, 2025 is going to go down as The Year I Bought No Ammo.
Not that I'm in danger of running out. Indeed, storage remains an issue. The only calibers I'm close to being low on are the boutique ones. So now, I won't be able to hold out for long firing 8mm Nambu and 6.5mm Arisaka.
183
Many of the records were destroyed in a massive fire at the Center years ago, including my late Father's (WWII, 825th TD BN)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 07, 2025 08:25 PM (2U/dF)
Per the NPRC's website, most of the records lost were Army (discharges from 1912-1959, 80% lost) and USAF (discharges 1947-1963, H-Z, 75% lost). That said, the National Archives has made effort to reconstruct at least some of these records, so it's still worth asking if NPRC has anything.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:32 PM (BCwQW)
184
@ 155 Others claimed we should have just blockaded them until they surrendered.Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (pkeXY)
The people who complain about us dropping the bombs wouldn't have been happy with any useful solution, because they are 1) ignorant, 2) stupid, and, often, 3) anti-American. __________________________________________________
And that makes them diff'rent from the ones today exactly HOW … ?
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 08:33 PM (ayRl+)
185
If I promise to behave, can I come to the next Mo-me in Texas? I’m in Houston, so it can’t be more than a day’s drive
Posted by: Jackdaddy63 at December 07, 2025 08:26 PM (l5Vun)
Well, if you behave I don't know what there would be to do. But, except for adding to the number of people who's name I would forget, I can't see a downside.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 08:33 PM (qipSb)
186 FeTV (Family channel) is currently running Highway Patrol, check the schedule. MeTV, Antenna TV and some of the others also run it from time to time, usually in the wee hours.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 08:34 PM (w6EFb)
187
Many of the records were destroyed in a massive fire at the Center years ago, including my late Father's (WWII, 825th TD BN)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
Army and Air Force (Corp) personnel records burned in a massive fire at the St Louis personnel records warehouse in the late 60's. Navy and Marine records weren't there but elsewhere so preserved. Ditto I think for Army unit histories, etc. It was the personnel files that burned and some folks have had to reconstruct their history for retirement, etc. from other sources of documents.
Had to do it for my father. But not all personnel records burned. If you know someone with an Ancestry dot com Fold 3 dot com account, they can search for what remains. That database includes a lot of really old land grants, pensions, and others going back to Revolutionary War times for those doing genealogy.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:35 PM (WDjG6)
188
Never argue with a cop and his gun on the side of the road, disengage as quickly as you can. Save the arguments for court if you truly are wronged.
Or you better damn well know what you are doing.
When TX DPS is bitching at me about what route I take to get to work, I let the trooper have it. And then he decided to bitch me out about the address on my DL. “Why do you have (town name here) on you address if you don’t live in town?” My response: “Take it up with the post office! They told me to use that address and I’m using it!”
Got a warning.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 08:35 PM (4786I)
189
I'm in RI Red...this is exactly what I'm looking for...and I'm sure my Dino half will be interested, too.
Wow, this may erase all the bad in your permanent record...
190
And that makes them diff'rent from the ones today exactly HOW … ?
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 08:33 PM (ayRl+)
Well, yeah.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (VRLPm)
191 The legend is ol' Broderick was so drunk during shooting a few times, he couldn't stand up, and they would film him saying his lines lying down on the floor, rotating it on film and making it look like a wall.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 08:37 PM (w6EFb)
192
I wonder how many Pearl Harbor survivors are left.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 08:37 PM (4786I)
193
181 Guys/Gals, maybe we should do some brainstorming:
Day one morning - Intro to AR15, Zeroing, 100 yards. PM - Ballistic tables, 200 and 300.
Day Two morning, ballistic tables, 300-500. PM, AR 10, ballistics, 500 +.
Survivors out to 1000.
Could be fun.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:26 PM
I'm liking this idea. Two diner breakfasts!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
Me too!
like the idea of starting with basics, then 100 yds and moving out;
197
But, then, maybe just an Intro to Bolties in 6.5/.308.
Less of a Manual of Arms to know, and readily transferable to other bolt-actions. Intro on the 300 and Day 2 on the Long Range.
Would give plenty of hugging time later in the day.
Yup, gonna have to think about this.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:39 PM (3Aazl)
198Me too!
like the idea of starting with basics, then 100 yds and moving out;
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 07, 2025 08:37 PM
This year we got my buddy, who never shot past 100 yards, out to about 850. You'll be amazed at what you can do.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:39 PM (Wnv9h)
199
I wonder how many Pearl Harbor survivors are left.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 08:37 PM (4786I)
Redstate article says a dozen. None were strong enough to make it to the anniversary observance at Pearl Harbor this year. This is the first time no survivors have come to Hawaii for the anniversary.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:40 PM (BCwQW)
200131 Grateful, have you checked out the National Personnel Records Center's website? As next of kin, you should be able to access your relatives' official military records (201 files). None of the files have been digitized, so you'll have to pay in order to have the clerks dig up the paperwork in question, make copies, and mail the copies to you. It may not be cheap, but this is the best way to get a definitive account of your relatives' military service.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:00 PM (BCwQW)
Thank you, Ed. I just requested my dad's service record. No particular reason (although I might apply for USAA/NFCU) but he's been gone for 12 years and it just felt like something I should have.
201
Or you better damn well know what you are doing.
When TX DPS is bitching at me about what route I take to get to work, I let the trooper have it. And then he decided to bitch me out about the address on my DL. “Why do you have (town name here) on you address if you don’t live in town?” My response: “Take it up with the post office! They told me to use that address and I’m using it!”
Got a warning.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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The longer you engage some of them, worse yet show them up, the more mischief can be made. You can be right but still have to wait for the drug dog to show up, etc. Certainly not all cops, but if you have seen recent problems in TN, basically the THP was given quotas for drunk drivers and traffic stops. Over 600 documented cases now since 2018 where the person was totally sober yet booked and charged with a DUI.
And now even the state legislature is beginning to get involved to determine how big the problem is by charging the TBI in Tennessee to compile statistics of all those innocent of DUI by trooper, region, etc. Right now it appears to be all regions of TN and in fact a ranking system for evaluations based on how many 'contacts' the trooper makes.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:42 PM (WDjG6)
202Japan was foolish that day, my friends.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:02 PM (jc0TO)
Tactically no. Strategically yes.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 08:29 PM
They were tactically foolish, as well. There were no carriers in Pearl, and they didn't take out the fuel farms.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:43 PM (0sNs1)
203
Had to do it for my father. But not all personnel records burned. If you know someone with an Ancestry dot com Fold 3 dot com account, they can search for what remains. That database includes a lot of really old land grants, pensions, and others going back to Revolutionary War times for those doing genealogy.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:35 PM (WDjG6)
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My maternal grandfather was not impacted because he was a civilian contractor, technically working for American Airlines under Air Transport Command. He wore an Army-style uniform, with no rank and "ATC" badges.
In the 1980s, they were retroactively declared to be military veterans and he was very proud of his honorable discharge from the Air Force. When he died, I was in the ANG, and pulled strings to get myself assigned to his honor guard detail and played "Taps" over his casket.
I played "Taps" for my other grandfather, but as a civilian.
204
Try youtube. A lot of times it will have videos posted that are no longer of interest to streaming channels.
Posted by: whig
Whig, thank you!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 08:44 PM (9bIJg)
205
A number of years ago, I was doing a new upper denture for a patient - a couple of other practitioners had had tries to no avail, and he was very… defensive. As I was fitting it up with pressure paste, he asked what I was doing. I replied that it was a paste that showed areas that were too snug, kinda like using machinists bluing on a new bearing. He was very y surprised that I knew what that was - he’d been the head mechanic at the Cadillac dealership near Philly and was drafted in his 30s - did the pacific campaign as a SeaBee , fixing the equipment on the beachheads. He survived 4 invasions….
They were on the ships, headed for Japan and they knew it was going to be bad. Suddenly, the fleet stopped, sat there for 20 minutes and then turned and headed the other way. Word came down that they had dropped some new bomb on the Japanese and they’d surrendered.
Then his ship slowed down and the rest of the fleet pulled away. The XO came down’”Sergeant So-and -So? Captain wants to see you “
Captain told him that one of the prop shafts had overheated a bearing and they had heard he was a good mechanic and could pour a new one….
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 07, 2025 08:45 PM (i67OH)
206 Others claimed we should have just blockaded them until they surrendered.Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (pkeXY)
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Considering the hammering the US Navy took off Okinawa, this doesn't strike me as a good alternative.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 08:45 PM (tgvbd)
Here are the unit records WWII Pacific for the Army (Hawaii, etc.) at the National Archives. Material is located at College Park Maryland National Archives facility. Link goes to teh National Archives dot gov
https://tinyurl.com/yux458rz
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:46 PM (WDjG6)
208
Redstate article says a dozen. None were strong enough to make it to the anniversary observance at Pearl Harbor this year. This is the first time no survivors have come to Hawaii for the anniversary.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:40 PM (BCwQW)
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We're now counting down to people who even remember it happening.
When I was still a teenager, I interviewed my maternal grandfather about his service and even took notes. I inherited his charts and flight log. He was a navigator on the transatlantic routes, working both north and south of the equator.
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Others claimed we should have just blockaded them until they surrendered.Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (pkeXY)
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Considering the hammering the US Navy took off Okinawa, this doesn't strike me as a good alternative.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 08:45 PM (tgvbd)
They couldn't do that twice. They gutted what was left of their navy and air force there.
Still...they weren't going to surrender. Especially not the IJA.
210I'm liking this idea. Two diner breakfasts!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:31 PM
RI Red: Gentlemen, we do not stop till nightfall.
Pippin: What about breakfast?
Merry: You’ve already had it.
Pippin: We’ve had one, yes. What about second breakfast?
Merry: Don’t think he knows about second breakfast, Pip.
Pippin: What about elevenses? Luncheon? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper? He knows about them, doesn’t he?
Merry: I wouldn’t count on it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:48 PM (0sNs1)
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Whig, thank you!
Posted by: rickb223
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No problem. You can find a lot of the old 50's black and white Dragnet episodes as well. While picture quality sucks on some, the older episodes are grittier than the second iteration of Dragnet in the 60's. Many of the older Dragnet episodes were directly lifted from the radio show scripts.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:48 PM (WDjG6)
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Good books out there on Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan. We would have taken many casualties.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:49 PM (3Aazl)
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He told the captain “I’m an automobile mechanic, I have only worked on trucks and bulldozers, I’ve never worked on a ship”
Captain replied we can get home in 30 days or 60 days. Your choice. We’ve got everything we need to fix it, just nobody with experience
He was down to the engine room 10 minutes later. Took him two days.
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 07, 2025 08:49 PM (i67OH)
214
I wonder how many Pearl Harbor survivors are left.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 08:37 PM (4786I)
Redstate article says a dozen. None were strong enough to make it to the anniversary observance at Pearl Harbor this year. This is the first time no survivors have come to Hawaii for the anniversary.
Posted by: Ed L
We may not have any left by this time next year.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 08:50 PM (9bIJg)
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"As of the 84th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack on December 7, 2025, only 12 survivors of the December 7, 1941, attack remain alive, all of whom are centenarians and were unable to attend the remembrance ceremony this year.
This marks the first time in the history of the annual commemoration that no survivors were present at the event."
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 08:50 PM (jc0TO)
216Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:48 PM
That went through my mind as I hit 'post'. LOL
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:51 PM (Wnv9h)
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What if, instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the biggest naval base, and biggest army or air base were hit by the nukes? How would that have changed the surrender calculus?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 08:51 PM (npFr7)
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202 Japan was foolish that day, my friends.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 07:02 PM (jc0TO)
Tactically no. Strategically yes.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 08:29 PM
They were tactically foolish, as well. There were no carriers in Pearl, and they didn't take out the fuel farms.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:43 PM (0sNs1)
The carriers not being there was not their fault. Missing the fuel and repair facilities was a blind spot in their planning/focus
219 Some of the shootout scenes from Highway Patrol are a hoot. They all shoot from the hip, willy-nilly. It goes something like this. Broderick and the boys move in on the bad guys, "Freeze, you're under arrest!"
Bad guys: "Cops!"
BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAMBLAMBLAM!
Smoke clears. Good guys are all okay, bad guys are toast.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 08:51 PM (w6EFb)
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Yes, I went to the range. I've been sick, so it's been most of a month. I may have forgotten everything I ever learned about holding a pistol, but I managed to fire six or seven magazines through my 1911. I changed it up a little bit and put the target at 15 yards instead of 7. I, um, couldn't always see the holes I was making in the paper but I did, indeed, put holes in the paper.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2025 08:52 PM (VmDLh)
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In the 1980s, they were retroactively declared to be military veterans and he was very proud of his honorable discharge from the Air Force. When he died, I was in the ANG, and pulled strings to get myself assigned to his honor guard detail and played "Taps" over his casket.
I played "Taps" for my other grandfather, but as a civilian.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
Sorry that he died but it was surely some consolation to you to do what you did. Father had a traditional grave side sendoff from some active duty detachment of guys just back from the sandbox in Iraq.
FIL retired Nat. Guard after nearly thirty years and had similar sendoff, only due to bad weather (rain), the back of the chapel was opened at the funeral home and they did the traditional sendoff in the open air for him before we proceeded to the gravesite.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:52 PM (WDjG6)
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They were tactically foolish, as well. There were no carriers in Pearl, and they didn't take out the fuel farms.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 08:43 PM (0sNs1)
There were understandable reasons for Nagumo to withdraw after the second raid. In no particular order:
- Plane/pilot losses. The 29 pilots/aircrew lost represented a quarter of the carrier trained aircrew produced annually. The IJN didn't want to risk losing more; the carriers were needed all over the Pacific to prepare the way for the invasions.
- Fuel. In order to hang around long enough for another raid, Nagumo would have risked running out of fuel for his ships. The supporting oilers were several hundred miles away.
- Increased opposition. Most of the losses suffered took place during the second raid. A third attack was likely to see a fully prepared and ready defense, increasing the risk of more losses.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:52 PM (BCwQW)
223Good books out there on Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan. We would have taken many casualties.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:49 PM
That reminds me...since this is a Smart Military Blog (TM), does anyone have any recommendations for books about the WWII merchant marine experience?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:52 PM (Wnv9h)
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That went through my mind as I hit 'post'. LOL
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:51 PM (Wnv9h)
But Two Schilling beer fests!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:53 PM (3Aazl)
225Smoke clears. Good guys are all okay, bad guys are toast.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 08:51 PM
Tell us about it.
Posted by: zombie Star Wars Storm Troopers at December 07, 2025 08:54 PM (0sNs1)
226 the older episodes are grittier than the second iteration of Dragnet in the 60's. Many of the older Dragnet episodes were directly lifted from the radio show scripts.
Posted by: whig
People actually got the gas chamber on the old Dragnet show. Nothing like that in the 60's version.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 08:54 PM (pkeXY)
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220 Yes, I went to the range. I've been sick, so it's been most of a month. I may have forgotten everything I ever learned about holding a pistol, but I managed to fire six or seven magazines through my 1911. I changed it up a little bit and put the target at 15 yards instead of 7. I, um, couldn't always see the holes I was making in the paper but I did, indeed, put holes in the paper.
Posted by: Cybersmythe
That can be an issue sometimes. I used to tote binoculars (small ones) in my range bag just for that. Splatter target stickers though can sometimes help.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:54 PM (WDjG6)
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Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel
I have read where we had Intel that they would resort to chemical weapons when we got to the homeland (Okinawa is viewed more as a territory). So much planning and stockpiling was in progress. Same article said they Intel that a massive chem counterstrike was planned and decided will never go there...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 08:54 PM (/lPRQ)
229But Two Schilling beer fests!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:53 PM
Mmm...brats in pretzel buns.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:55 PM (Wnv9h)
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Someone identified you as Joe Mannix.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:17 PM (WDjG6)
I should have started wearing suits young, and dating hotties in short skirts.
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People actually got the gas chamber on the old Dragnet show. Nothing like that in the 60's version.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Also you got to see a lot of stars before they became notable actors in the 60's like Lee Marvin, the guy that played Floyd the Barber, etc.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (WDjG6)
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Whig, thank you so much. And I am so close geographically to College Park. This particular uncle was a favorite, a loving jolly sort... I was stunned thru research to learn he was involved in the invasion of New Guinea....
233But Two Schilling beer fests!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:53 PM
And/or Rosa Flamingos.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (Wnv9h)
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I should have started wearing suits young, and dating hotties in short skirts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Learning to blow up cars with a snubbie is also useful.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (WDjG6)
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Wow, this may erase all the bad in your permanent record...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Unlikely.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (Z3lXG)
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There were so many Purple Hearts made in anticipation of the invasion that we are still giving them out today.
Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 07, 2025 08:57 PM (GwqYh)
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234 I should have started wearing suits young, and dating hotties in short skirts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Learning to blow up cars with a snubbie is also useful.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (WDjG6)
Good point. I hate snub nose .38's. I'd be a terrible agent for Intertect...
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People actually got the gas chamber on the old Dragnet show. Nothing like that in the 60's version.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Also you got to see a lot of stars before they became notable actors in the 60's like Lee Marvin, the guy that played Floyd the Barber, etc.
Posted by: whig
Clint Eastwood. Yeah. He's in Highway Patrol.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 08:57 PM (9bIJg)
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Wow, this may erase all the bad in your permanent record...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Unlikely.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (Z3lXG)
I was afraid of that . . .
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:58 PM (3Aazl)
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Sorry that he died but it was surely some consolation to you to do what you did. Father had a traditional grave side sendoff from some active duty detachment of guys just back from the sandbox in Iraq.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 08:52 PM (WDjG6)
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Thank you. They both had good runs, reaching 90 or thereabouts. If they were alive today, they'd be world record holders. A friend of mine's father died just days before turning 102 a couple of years ago. He just kept chugging along, and every year they all gathered for his birthday because it could be his last. And one day it was true.
He was in a tank unit driving into Germany, badly wounded and his unit thought he was dead, but he returned to duty. Got a battlefield commission and made a career of it, retiring as an O5 (lack of a college degree meant O6 was out of the question).
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Whig, thank you so much. And I am so close geographically to College Park. This particular uncle was a favorite, a loving jolly sort... I was stunned thru research to learn he was involved in the invasion of New Guinea....
Posted by: The Grateful
College Park NARA (National Archives) is the big enchilada on records particularly of WWII. Well trained staff so to get the most out of the trip, consider trying to communicate with them about the purpose of your trip after digging up the references to what records you want to peruse.
Most security classification has probably been dropped over the years but you can run into surprising limits.
Few years ago I was in DC at the Library of Congress doing research on Supreme Court justices and their work process. Some of Earl Warren's papers were still classified (aka Warren Commission) back then. Dunno about status after Trump declassified other JFK records this year.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:00 PM (WDjG6)
242 Wow, this may erase all the bad in your permanent record...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Unlikely.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM
Harsh, but fair.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 09:00 PM (Wnv9h)
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Wow, this may erase all the bad in your permanent record...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Unlikely.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (Z3lXG)
I was afraid of that . . .
Posted by: RI Red
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Really? Alright, how about alot?
244There were understandable reasons for Nagumo to withdraw after the second raid.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 08:52 PM
I won't argue that. Missing the carriers was huge, (and ultimately beneficial to the U.S., as it forcibly 'sidelined' the black shoe (surface) senior officers, and thrust the brown shoes (aviators) to the front. After Midway, there wasn't significant IJN aviation capability.
Destroying the fuel facilities would have added 6+ months to any capability to respond.
The U.S. would have won WWII based on industrial output, even without the bomb.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 09:00 PM (0sNs1)
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Paternal grandfather was on a destroyer tender in WW1
Both of Dad’s older brothers were Navy in 2. Dad tried for the Marines but the rheumatic fever left him with a minor heart murmur, and it was early in’45 - he never went.
The middle brother was XO on a subchaser. As he put it, “Smallest thing that would make it across unrefueled. Nothing like seeing a North Atlantic winter storm wave come at you that’s taller than your ship is long… we didn’t have many atheists on board”
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 07, 2025 09:00 PM (jUN6x)
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Thank you. They both had good runs, reaching 90 or thereabouts. If they were alive today, they'd be world record holders. A friend of mine's father died just days before turning 102 a couple of years ago. He just kept chugging along, and every year they all gathered for his birthday because it could be his last. And one day it was true.
He was in a tank unit driving into Germany, badly wounded and his unit thought he was dead, but he returned to duty. Got a battlefield commission and made a career of it, retiring as an O5 (lack of a college degree meant O6 was out of the question).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
My grandfather never made it back from WWII, Phillipine Islands. RIP.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:01 PM (WDjG6)
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That reminds me...since this is a Smart Military Blog (TM), does anyone have any recommendations for books about the WWII merchant marine experience?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 08:52 PM (Wnv9h)
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Not a book, but check out "Action in the North Atlantic" with Humphrey Bogart. It was so realistic that it was used as a training film.
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Wow, this may erase all the bad in your permanent record...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Unlikely.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 08:56 PM (Z3lXG)
I was afraid of that . . .
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:58 PM (3Aazl)
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It's called a "permanent record" for a reason...
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Good Night all
It is amazing how just talking about guns makes me happy. Not as happy as actually shooting them but i'll take what I can get.
Have a great week everybody.
Thanks Weasel.
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My grandfather never made it back from WWII, Phillipine Islands. RIP.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:01 PM (WDjG6)
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I assume the liberation?
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Good point. I hate snub nose .38's. I'd be a terrible agent for Intertect...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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A snubbie is weapon for a more elegant age. I think Bogie in one movie, Big Sleep, perhaps, had a dash panel that flipped so he could get his Detective Special from it for social occasions.
Course, he also taught a generation of not so bright movie watchers to flick shut the cylinder with a wrist twist. Which does damage to the revolver crane requiring special tools to fix (usually a trip to a gunsmith is required).
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)
252Not a book, but check out "Action in the North Atlantic" with Humphrey Bogart. It was so realistic that it was used as a training film.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 07, 2025 09:02 PM
Thanks. I'll check it out.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 09:05 PM (Wnv9h)
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What if, instead of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the biggest naval base, and biggest army or air base were hit by the nukes? How would that have changed the surrender calculus?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 08:51 PM
Probably not. Hiroshima was a major naval base, they were training housewives to fight with sharpened broomsticks, and a big chunk of the military was in complete denial that they were losing. Mustache Man waiting for Steiner to show up was rational by comparison.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 09:05 PM (4mmkh)
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I assume the liberation?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Yep. Not Bataan Death March etc. thank the Lord.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:06 PM (WDjG6)
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Good books out there on Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan. We would have taken many casualties.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 08:49 PM (3Aazl)
Typhoon Louise struck Buckner Bay, Okinawa (the main staging point for the invasion of Kyushu) on October 9, 1945. Louise sank 12 ships and small craft, damaged 32, and grounded 222. The Kyushu invasion was tentatively scheduled for early to mid-November 1945. Had the full invasion fleet been gathered at Okinawa, it seems unlikely that it would have gotten off scot-free. Given that Halsey would have had command at the time and his dubious handling of the fleet during Typhoons Cobra (November 1944) and Connie (June 1945) earlier, the US might have suffered greater losses from Mother Nature than the Japanese.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 09:06 PM (BCwQW)
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Not a book, but check out "Action in the North Atlantic" with Humphrey Bogart. It was so realistic that it was used as a training film.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
Rent it for $3.99 on Prime
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 09:07 PM (9bIJg)
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 09:00 PM (0sNs1)
The Japanese never gave logistics (theirs or the enemy's) the attention it really deserved for the entire war. The fuel tanks were not a priority target for them. The warships and planes were.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 09:13 PM (BCwQW)
258Why do I even mention this? It is a .480 Ruger, the product of people who looked at the .44 Magnum and said "Hold my beer." A .44 Magnum throws a 240 grain bullet at 1500 fps. The .480 does 1500 fps with a 325 grain bullet.
If you went with the .460, you could have fired .45LC and .454 Casull - make range day a bit more survivable. A .45LC you can plink for hours. The full magnum, you don't fire, you detonate.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 09:15 PM (a4flb)
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A snubbie is weapon for a more elegant age. I think Bogie in one movie, Big Sleep, perhaps, had a dash panel that flipped so he could get his Detective Special from it for social occasions.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)
It is "The Big Sleep." IIRC, the other full size revolver in that panel was a Colt Official Police w/ a 5" or 6" barrel.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 09:15 PM (BCwQW)
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Alas, I must leave and contemplate my Permanent Record.
Weasel, thank you as always. Commenters, that depends.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 09:16 PM (VWFmc)
261
"Do you have a methodology that works better for you?"
It is nothing like that guy in the first video!
My weakness is grip, so I always concentrate on grip that doesn't push my trigger finger. My goal is to keep my trigger finger as neutral as possible. Speed is for fun, but not for practice.
One is to know your state's laws as to carry within an automobile. If traveling by car, know each state that you plan to travel through and their laws. If necessary, take the long way to avoid troublesome jurisdictions which can also be cities in some cases (NYC for example or DC).
Handgunlaw dot us is one such website to check, some like the USCCA organization have their own, and there are some annual guides printed.
And know the limits and power of Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA) that sets conditions permitting people to travel across a state without a license, registration, etc. but the requirements must be followed strictly.
Story and link to Section 926A relevant for travel at concealedcarry dot com https://tinyurl.com/2fuk4xuu
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:17 PM (WDjG6)
263Course, he also taught a generation of not so bright movie watchers to flick shut the cylinder with a wrist twist. Which does damage to the revolver crane requiring special tools to fix (usually a trip to a gunsmith is required).
how about fanning the revolver? That was gangster before the sideways Glock.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 09:17 PM (a4flb)
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Last survivor of the USS Arizona just died last year at 102.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 07, 2025 09:18 PM (/RHNq)
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It is "The Big Sleep." IIRC, the other full size revolver in that panel was a Colt Official Police w/ a 5" or 6" barrel.
Posted by: Ed L
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Remembered the one but not the other. Thanks.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:18 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 09:19 PM (LHPAg)
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The Japanese never gave logistics (theirs or the enemy's) the attention it really deserved for the entire war. The fuel tanks were not a priority target for them. The warships and planes were.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 09:13 PM (BCwQW)
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I read Richard Frank's book Downfall as part of research for Walls of Men, and a huge revelation to me was that the Japanese didn't really expect troops to get sick or wounded. They didn't really plan for that. The US was all about clearing stations for casualties, comforting them, getting to surgical facilities, and the Japanese were kind of "meh" on the whole thing.
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If you went with the .460, you could have fired .45LC and .454 Casull - make range day a bit more survivable. A .45LC you can plink for hours. The full magnum, you don't fire, you detonate.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 09:15 PM
I handload, and even cast my own bullets. I expect my first task will be to create a wimpy target load that I can shoot without upsetting the servants or frightening the horses.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 09:20 PM (4mmkh)
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CBD, I didn’t think you were allowed to talk about “gubs” in Merry Olde England.
In re grip, have we discussed the toothpaste tube approach?
Remind me the next time we meet!
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 09:21 PM (VWFmc)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 09:22 PM (Wnv9h)
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how about fanning the revolver? That was gangster before the sideways Glock.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
Fanning actually was used by folks back before movies existed. That being said, gunmen of the era dismissed it mainly as a party trick gimmick and it was hard on the relatively fragile revolvers at the time.
If you ever read Ed McGivern's Book of Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting (well recommended even now if you shoot revolvers), he discusses his talks with Old West gunmen and their attitude and experience with such. He could do it himself but did not think much of it.
McGivern was long time record holder of the fastest six shots from a revolver that hit the target until surpassed by Jerry Miculek.
Book is still in print.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:22 PM (WDjG6)
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Think I'm going to cash in my chips for the night, y'all. I woke up stupidly early this morning and am having a hard time keeping my eyes open.
Thanks for being here and hope to see you again next Sunday.
Nite!
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 09:22 PM (zMLZ6)
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Thanks for another Gun Thread, Weasel.
Thank you, Horde.
Maybe I'll get some range time soon and can work on fundamentals.
Posted by: GWB at December 07, 2025 09:23 PM (eDA0P)
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The caliber wars. Begun, have they. Yes.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 09:19 PM (LHPAg)
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Oh goody. The .41 Magnum snobs are going to show up with their monocles and waxed mustaches and lecture us all on terminal ballistics yet again.
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266 The caliber wars. Begun, have they. Yes.
Posted by: Eromero
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Same thing with battleship guns until tiny aircraft with bombs put paid to even the largest and most heavily armored battleship with the biggest guns.
Focus on training for the fight and not worry so much about the tools.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:24 PM (WDjG6)
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how about fanning the revolver? That was gangster before the sideways Glock.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 09:17 PM (a4flb)
Blame trick shot artist Ed McGivern (1874-1957). He made this move famous using a modified SAA that allowed him to draw from a holster and shoot five rounds in 1.6 seconds. This will damage the revolver due to the speed of the cylinder's rotation.
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 09:27 PM (BCwQW)
Only 12 Pearl Harbor survivors remain. On the 84th anniversary, none can attend this year’s remembrance.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 09:27 PM (075ei)
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Focus on training for the fight and not worry so much about the tools.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:24 PM (WDjG6)
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See also: Paul Harrell remarking that .357 magnum is a useless cartridge if you never hit the target.
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Oh goody. The .41 Magnum snobs are going to show up with their monocles and waxed mustaches and lecture us all on terminal ballistics yet again.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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It is a nice cartridge but not a well supported one nowadays. Revolver people liking magnums either go down a notch to 357 Magnum or up to a 44 Magnum (leaving aside the TREX types like the 460 Rowland, etc.).
38-40 had a similar problem back in the day which is why you can find a fair number of them around versus the more popular 44-40 or 45 Colt.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:27 PM (WDjG6)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel! See you all next week!
Posted by: Ed L at December 07, 2025 09:28 PM (BCwQW)
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38-40 had a similar problem back in the day which is why you can find a fair number of them around versus the more popular 44-40 or 45 Colt.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:27 PM (WDjG6)
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All I want for Christmas is .32 H&R Mag at fifty cents per round. Silly that it's still so high.
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Blame trick shot artist Ed McGivern (1874-1957). He made this move famous using a modified SAA that allowed him to draw from a holster and shoot five rounds in 1.6 seconds. This will damage the revolver due to the speed of the cylinder's rotation.
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Old West gunmen did it well before Ed McGivern, he actually discusses it in his book about his lessons from them. IIRC, one such gunfight recounted in the book had a young buck that was fanning his hammer and hit no one, the other guy cooling put a killshot into the young buck by pointing and aiming instead of tomfoolery.
Westerns then picked up teh technique because it was flashy along with other bad demonstrations. The one exception was Sammy Davis Junior who was a true quick draw artist on par with Thell Reed. Sammy had a large collection of historic and exemplary single action revolvers at one time as well.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:31 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 09:32 PM (ayRl+)
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Thank you for hosting, Weasel. My favorite thread week in and week out.
Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 07, 2025 09:34 PM (GwqYh)
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All I want for Christmas is .32 H&R Mag at fifty cents per round. Silly that it's still so high.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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This cartridge, like the others mentioned above is a reloading proposition if you want to shoot cheaply.
Reload if Starline can get the brass. Quite a few bullets suitable for 32 loading in cast or jacketed revolvers that work for the 32 S&W Long, 32-20, and the 32 H&R. Fair number of powders work and you don't need much of it, bullets easy to come by (thank the cowboy shooters for that), and that just leaves the case and primers. Primers are standard small pistol and thus only the case is the issue. That is less of an issue if you shoot 32 S&W Long brass in your 32 H&R.
I like Acme with their Hi Tek coated SWC bullets as you don't get the fouling you typically get with lead in an old gun.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:36 PM (WDjG6)
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Holy shit. Demi Moore's character on Landman just poured an entire bottle of whiskey onto Jon Hamm's character's grave.
It was a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 09:37 PM (9bIJg)
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I forgot to thank Weasel and the others for a very pleasant evening. Thank you and good night as I am fighting off a bad cold again. Time for Nyquil and bed.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:37 PM (WDjG6)
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Holy shit. Demi Moore's character on Landman just poured an entire bottle of whiskey onto Jon Hamm's character's grave.
It was a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 09:37 PM (9bIJg)
I hope they had the decency to use stunt whiskey. Some cold tea would do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 09:39 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Rancherbob at December 07, 2025 09:45 PM (LYOiu)
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289 A snubbie is weapon for a more elegant age.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)
Like the light sabre. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 09:41 PM (snZF9)
Efrem Zymbalist of eff bee eye approves.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 09:45 PM (LHPAg)
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Also feel free to discuss the retardation of those who thought we should invade the Jap mainland rather than drop a couple of atomic bombs to end the war.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2025 07:21 PM (64qRd)
Nothing to discuss. They earned a few balmy 72,000,000 degree days with 800mph winds from the west.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 09:51 PM (snZF9)
294Others claimed we should have just blockaded them until they surrendered.Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 08:09 PM (pkeXY)
Which would have starved the old men and women first, then the women and children, and then non-combatants nation-wide.
The bombs were the soft option I am afraid.
The Japanese weren't going to give up on the first bomb for a number of reason, but also because their Germans most likely told them that it was impossible to have gathered more than one bomb worth of U-235
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 09:54 PM (rbvCR)
295The Japanese weren't going to give up on the first bomb for a number of reason, but also because their Germans most likely told them that it was impossible to have gathered more than one bomb worth of U-235
IIRC, they were right, kinda. The second bomb was a plutonium bomb.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2025 09:56 PM (VmDLh)
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Thank you, Weasel, and Gubthreaders for another well-spent Sunday evening!
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251 Good point. I hate snub nose .38's. I'd be a terrible agent for Intertect...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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A snubbie is weapon for a more elegant age. I think Bogie in one movie, Big Sleep, perhaps, had a dash panel that flipped so he could get his Detective Special from it for social occasions.
Course, he also taught a generation of not so bright movie watchers to flick shut the cylinder with a wrist twist. Which does damage to the revolver crane requiring special tools to fix (usually a trip to a gunsmith is required).
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)
They are convenient sized and they will punch holes with wadcutter rounds but they are MISERABLE to shoot. So I have grounded mine and gone with subcompact automatics which recoil less and reload faster. Judge me if you must but the Taurus 709 is lighter, and much more pleasant to shoot and practice with.
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84 years ago?
FDR fucced up.
We should have surrendered the next day.
Posted by: Barack, hates "victory" at December 07, 2025 10:02 PM (r6f6k)
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A snubbie is weapon for a more elegant age. I think Bogie in one movie, Big Sleep, perhaps, had a dash panel that flipped so he could get his Detective Special from it for social occasions.
Course, he also taught a generation of not so bright movie watchers to flick shut the cylinder with a wrist twist. Which does damage to the revolver crane requiring special tools to fix (usually a trip to a gunsmith is required).
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 09:05 PM (WDjG6)
They are convenient sized and they will punch holes with wadcutter rounds but they are MISERABLE to shoot. So I have grounded mine and gone with subcompact automatics which recoil less and reload faster. Judge me if you must but the Taurus 709 is lighter, and much more pleasant to shoot and practice with.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
I miss the Ruger Speed Six and the Taurus CIA in .357 magnum.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 10:04 PM (9bIJg)
300Oh goody. The .41 Magnum snobs are going to show up with their monocles and waxed mustaches and lecture us all on terminal ballistics yet again.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
I may have won an auction for a Spanish made revolver in .44 American. I am going to be in the market for .41 Mag brass soon.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 10:06 PM (rbvCR)
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Those biscuits and sausage gravy would make me want to call it an early night too. I'll be raiding the chicken coop tomorrow for breakfast eggs.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 08, 2025 12:16 AM (1zOXE)
Food Thread: Pork Pie... Hat Or Food? You Be The Judge.
A plain old pork pie. It's on most pub menus, and for whatever deeply disturbed and perverse reason, they serve them cold. We have all read passages in Dickens or other 19th century writers in which the protagonist grabs a pork pie and shoves it in his coat pocket before rushing out the door to do whatever they did in 1843.
But it's 2025, and I want my pie nice and hot, or at least warm so that the fat in the crust isn't congealed.
To be fair, it was pleasant, and the cask ale I drank with it was delicious. That dish of stuff is some sort of chutney, which was weird, but it wasn't bad!
But still, how backward and archaic do we have to be in the interest of authenticity?
Campbell's says that its soup is made with real meat — not "3D-printed chicken" — and said it has fired an executive who allegedly made the explosive claims in a bombshell recording that trashed the company's products and customers.
Campbell's VP Martin Bally was caught describing the soup as "bioengineered meat" and saying, "I don't wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer", according to a suit a former employee filed last week in Michigan.
But the larger issue of so-called "lab-grown meat" being used in processed food is a non-starter. So what? As long as they reveal the origin of the "meat" on the label, if that's what people want to spend their money on, whose business is it to disturb that transaction?
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That's from "scampydog," who has decided that his function on this planet is to plague me with photos of beautiful sourdough bread that his SiL makes.
My sourdough is tasty, but it is usually a bit lacking in the looks department.
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I was on a flight yesterday, and the second meal (yes, it was a long flight!) was a choice of some insipid and boring sounding crap, and vegetarian Biryani. What the hell...why not? And it was pretty damned tasty, even taking into account the boredom factor of flying which makes even the most mundane events a wonderful thing. Biryani is just flavored rice with whatever stuff you want to put in. But the spicing tends to be vibrant and different in comparison to most things we eat in America, and it was a nice change from steam-table chicken and dried out "steak." Here's an easy version of Chicken Biryani from "The Spruce Eats," which is a solid website and one that I have linked many times.
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Long-time commenter, stabbing weapon enthusiast, and denizen of many of Virginia's toughest houses of corrections, Bluebell has refused to come to my house and make pie crusts. So I am left with the thoroughly depressing alternative, which is crappy commercial ones. They aren't quite big enough, the edges always crack, and they just aren't buttery enough. I suspect they use other, cheaper fats, and that rarely works.
SEE?
On the other hand, the filling leaked out of that (and the other one on the other side) and toasted and caramelized on the baking sheet.
Yes, that stuff was delicious! Like caramel candy with the bonus of crispy pecans. Amazing stuff, and something that I might try to make next year!
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Speaking of baking...how do you people get the last bit of thick syrup out of the container? Man oh man! That stuff is thick! I warmed the container in hot water to make the syrup less viscous, and that worked ...okay, but if there is a better way, I am all ears! Of course I could have opened another bottle of the stuff, but remember, I am a cheap bastard!
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[Hat Tip: Weasel]
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A friend graciously gave me some genuine grown-in-the-USA garlic, and I am going to taste one clove and plant the rest, because my pathetic failure last year is an anomaly...right? I hope so, because It's in the ground (actually, a large pot), and it had better work this time!
Send all of your extra antelope to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.
Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.
The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!
9Campbell's says that its soup is made with real meat — not "3D-printed chicken" — and said it has fired an executive who allegedly made the explosive claims in a bombshell recording that trashed the company's products and customers.
Big whoop. Is there anyone on the face of planet Earth that thought Campbell's soups represented haute cuisine?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 04:09 PM (Riz8t)
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I guess lard for pie crust would be fine. It's not something I keep around, though.
Yum. I would be tempted to pick it up with my fingers. They probably wouldn't kick me out.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:13 PM (RuTUS)
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Why is the guy using 2% fat milk for his gravy?...He's already put in a half stick of butter...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 04:14 PM (ynpvh)
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Can't answer ya on the pork pie but before too long, I intend to give John Kirkwood's recipe for Steak & Ale Winter Pie. Recipe found here:
https://youtu.be/sliRgE2kJFA
It does need a dedicated tart or pie tin of a particular height to pull off easily but I'm going to rough it the first time around to see if dedicated hardware is going to be worth it in the long haul.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 07, 2025 04:14 PM (/HDaX)
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How to get the last dregs of corn syrup out of the bottle? Ok, listen closely. I'm only going to say this once.
USE HONEY YOU HEATHEN!!!! It's better for you.
(Now, you're probably thinking that now you have the problem of getting the last dregs of the honey out of the container. No problem. It costs more, so you are likely better motivated to use every drop. It's all psychological.... )
Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 04:15 PM (dIske)
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"Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting."
Or maybe the same pretentious idiots, who ran up premium cigar prices as well, have found some other item to display their conspicuous consumption with.
Me, I'm just waiting for my favorite mid-shelf bourbon to be packaged in 3 liter bottles, to drive the cost per ounce down.
And for those distressed by whiskey in 3 liter bottles, a bottle of whiskey isn't like a bottle of beer. Once opened, you are not required to finish it in one sitting.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 04:15 PM (4mmkh)
21And for those distressed by whiskey in 3 liter bottles, a bottle of whiskey isn't like a bottle of beer. Once opened, you are not required to finish it in one sitting.
Which is not to say you CAN'T finish it in one sitting.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 04:17 PM (Riz8t)
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And for those distressed by whiskey in 3 liter bottles, a bottle of whiskey isn't like a bottle of beer. Once opened, you are not required to finish it in one sitting.
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But that big bottle makes it easy to just keep pouring....
Posted by: clarence at December 07, 2025 04:20 PM (rV7ei)
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>>>Long-time commenter, stabbing weapon enthusiast, and denizen of many of Virginia's toughest houses of corrections
vmom? bluebell?
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:20 PM (RuTUS)
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And for those distressed by whiskey in 3 liter bottles, a bottle of whiskey isn't like a bottle of beer. Once opened, you are not required to finish it in one sitting.
Which is not to say you CAN'T finish it in one sitting.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 04:17 PM (Riz8t)
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*stops pouring another glass*
Well, damn it. Which is it?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 04:20 PM (2WIwB)
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19 How to get the last dregs of corn syrup out of the bottle? Ok, listen closely. I'm only going to say this once.
USE HONEY YOU HEATHEN!!!! It's better for you.
(Now, you're probably thinking that now you have the problem of getting the last dregs of the honey out of the container. No problem. It costs more, so you are likely better motivated to use every drop. It's all psychological.... )
Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 04:15 PM (dIske)
Maple Syrup.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 04:20 PM (ynpvh)
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I ordered some Kona beans online and tried the 1st pot this morning. I was underwhelmed. Had a sort of fruity aftertaste. I was expecting something more earthy and smoky.
IMO YMMV
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 04:21 PM (ZxPkt)
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15 When the Scots let the Muslims take over might kill the Scotch market.
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 04:12 PM (Ia/+0)
No, Muzzies have no problem selling Scots. Slavery is A-Okay with them.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 04:22 PM (ynpvh)
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26 I ordered some Kona beans online and tried the 1st pot this morning. I was underwhelmed. Had a sort of fruity aftertaste. I was expecting something more earthy and smoky.
IMO YMMV
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 04:21 PM (ZxPkt)
They make TERRIBLE refried beans.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 04:22 PM (ynpvh)
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In Austin last week and daughter took me to the Central Market.
OMG!!!
The bakery was amazing. Didn't want to leave.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 04:22 PM (2WIwB)
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Shug Jordan frequently wore a pork pie hat.
I always liked how it looked on him.
https://tinyurl.com/57hepy5h
War Eagle.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 04:24 PM (XQo4F)
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Bluebell was kind enough to share her ginger cookie recipe with us. Made it yesterday. Holy moly! This stuff is great! We didn't roll them out too thin so they were softer than a hard ginger snap. The instructions included how to hang them as Christmas tree decorations (and, yes, they are still edible after the tree comes down). Delicious by themselves but dunked in coffee they become food for the gods. These are not overly sweet but hugely flavorful.
Learned a few things in the process. I've creamed butter and sugar together before but the recipe calls for bringing them to a boil. I was amazed at how quickly the ingredients liquified. I was pleased by how well the dough worked with cookie cutters. The shapes came out with clean edges. I should get those silicone rings that fit on the rolling pin to make rolling out the dough to a predictable thickness.
I wouldn't hesitate to give some as gifts. They are that good. Many, many thanks to bluebell for the recipe.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 04:24 PM (yTvNw)
32It does need a dedicated tart or pie tin of a particular height to pull off easily but I'm going to rough it the first time around to see if dedicated hardware is going to be worth it in the long haul.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 07, 2025 04:14 PM (/HDaX)
a round cake pan might work
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 04:25 PM (rbvCR)
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BTW, anyone with some rudimentary carpentry skills can design an insert for their kitchen cabinets that stores bottles holding liquids of high viscosity upside down. You can do the same for condiments in your fridge.
It's really convenient, and actually helps with storage space and organization. You just have to ignore your friends who call you anal retentive and thrifty.
Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 04:26 PM (dIske)
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33 BTW, anyone with some rudimentary carpentry skills can design an insert for their kitchen cabinets that stores bottles holding liquids of high viscosity upside down. You can do the same for condiments in your fridge.
It's really convenient, and actually helps with storage space and organization. You just have to ignore your friends who call you anal retentive and thrifty.
Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 04:26 PM (dIske)
So something ACE shouldn't try at home...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 04:29 PM (ynpvh)
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31 Bluebell was kind enough to share her ginger cookie recipe with us. Made it yesterday. Holy moly! This stuff is great!
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 04:24 PM (yTvNw)
Mmm, I think I missed that. Is it in the Deplorable Gourmet, perchance? I like ginger cookies.
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@ 33 BTW, anyone with some rudimentary carpentry skills can design an insert for their kitchen cabinets that stores bottles holding liquids of high viscosity upside down. You can do the same for condiments in your fridge.
It's really convenient, and actually helps with storage space and organization. You just have to ignore your friends who call you anal retentive and thrifty. ________________________________________
Mine would say 'anal retentive and cheap … they'd be right.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 04:31 PM (ayRl+)
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HOMEMADE STEWED TOMATOES
Willowed: >>>@98 Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks* Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a)
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Greetings, Nurse ... If interested, here's the recipe I use when I'm out of my preferred canned variety (DelMonte):
4 medium tomatoes, diced (or 2 cups
of canned diced plain tomatoes)
2 Tbsp. diced green pepper
2 Tbsp. diced onion
1 Tbsp. cornstarch
1 Tbsp. water
2 Tbsp. sugar (or to taste)
1 tsp.salt
1/4 tsp. pepper
Place tomatoes, green pepper & onions in medium saucepan. Bring to a boil & simmer 25* minutes. Add sugar, salt & pepper to the pan; stir to combine. In a separate small bowl, mix together the cornstarch & water; slowly add this slurry to the pan, stirring as you add. After the tomatoes have thickened, cook for a couple more minutes. Remove from the heat & serve. *For crockpot recipes, you probably probably don't need to simmer 25 minutes -- just long enough to dissolve the sugar & thicken the cornstarch. Enjoy!
Posted by: Kathy at December 07, 2025 04:32 PM (zuKcR)
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Jim like a wine rack, maybe for smaller bottles
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 04:35 PM (Ia/+0)
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I think that caramel candy with pecans sounds delicious , even it happened because of something leaking onto a baking sheet. That is one of the food things I I enjoyed as a kid and still do-caramel. There was a sauce of sea salt caramel which I saw in a store the other day and the top of the lid was designed to look like caramel coming over the edge. It was quite clever , but I refrained from buying it . I also like speciality alcoholic drinks that feature caramel . There was some kid of apple cider with caramel drink several months ago. It was very tasty .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 04:36 PM (rZCVI)
40Long-time commenter, stabbing weapon enthusiast, and denizen of many of Virginia's toughest houses of corrections has refused to come to my house and make pie crusts.
This couldn't possibly be due to the fact that you didn't honor the terms of a bet, could it?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 04:36 PM (0sNs1)
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Doing an ad hoc shrimp and sausage boil, with red taters and corn on the cob. Old Bay seasoning, wrapped in foil and thrun* in the oven for a bit. We'll see how it turns out.
And yes, thrun is intentional. My dad had a friend who used it, as in "Keith thrun my coat over my head. I guess he wanted me to go home."
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 07, 2025 04:37 PM (0aYVJ)
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That loaf has me drooling. Bread is my kryptonite.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 04:39 PM (jc0TO)
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Scampywife made toffee this weekend while we were up at the shack. Very little of it made it home. Weight continues its holiday creep upward. I expect more SiL sourdough pics around Christmas! Thanks for the food thread, CBD.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 04:40 PM (41CYW)
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It was Chicken Paprikash with Nokedli noodles yesterday.
A great recipe with a few minor modifications, but made with genuine Hungarian sweet paprika. This dish certainly deserves organic, free-range chicken because the sauce is very, very tasty.
Posted by: mrp at December 07, 2025 04:41 PM (rj6Yv)
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35 ... "I think I missed that. Is it in the Deplorable Gourmet, perchance? I like ginger cookies."
DMLW,
Bluebell shared that with us by email. If she is on the thread, you might hit her up for it.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 04:41 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 04:41 PM (rZCVI)
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While wrapping up the leftovers from thanksgiving, because I don't like to throw food out, I made sausage gravy, with leftover sausage, and poured it over a pile of turkey dressing and chopped up leftover green onions. That was damn good.
And leftover cranberries.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 04:41 PM (w6S0H)
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Back in Dickens’ day, they didn’t shower, clean their clothes much, had nasty teeth, and ate food that we would consider rotten. I’ll take my pork pies nice and hot, thank you very much.
I made bison steaks last night. Was ok. The only bison I can get at my supermarket is in cartons. I don’t think it’s a great cut of meat. Maybe London broil? It’s definitely not NY strip or RE.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 04:42 PM (m+VGF)
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I've never encountered difficulties pouring corn liquor.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2025 04:43 PM (XeU6L)
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Hubby is in the midst of smoking 2 briskets and some sausage My mouth is watering. Good Sunday!
Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2025 04:43 PM (lCppi)
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I'm planning on a Costco run this week to buy a tenderloin. Given what's happened to beef prices, I'm probably going to have to take some valium before I leave.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 04:43 PM (Riz8t)
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So, a certain Bezos run store sent me Taylor's teriyaki veg saute bags (pretty much like salad bags, but instead, they are chinese veg suited for stir fry with a cookable teriyaki sauce) for $1.71 each...and Target gave me $1.30/lb boneless skinless chicken breast. Now, these things aren't my FAVORITE, but who can complain about a chicken and veg teriyaki stir fry that can come together in 30 minutes after football that costs less than $10 for 6? Adding in rice and a grapes, blueberry, and blackberry salad.
1st time trying the "teriyaki" bag, so hopefully the included sauce doth not suck...I figure I have soy, hoisin, sesame, and oyster if something needs fixing...and hot sauce...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 04:43 PM (tOcjL)
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What brand knife is that? I’m a knife connoisseur but I don’t recognize the brand. It’s very blurry. Looks like a serrated Santoku?
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 04:44 PM (m+VGF)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 04:44 PM (XQo4F)
551st time trying the "teriyaki" bag, so hopefully the included sauce doth not suck...I figure I have soy, hoisin, sesame, and oyster if something needs fixing...and hot sauce...
I almost always chuck any pre-prepared sauce that comes with food. They are usually a sickly sweet goo of corn syrup and unidentifiable other ingredients. I, like you, have all the other stuff, so I just make my own.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 04:45 PM (Riz8t)
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Tomorrow, the rest of the 1st batch of chicken is going in jambalaya. Figure it's another heavy seasoned dish where folks don't lament that it's not thigh that much (yeah, I wish the thighs had been the deal, but figure no one wanted low fat white meat bird after a week of Thanksgiving leftovers, and thus the spouse brought home 15lbs of chicken - package 1 of 3 was in the fridge and being the one used today and tomorrow. The others will wait...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 04:45 PM (tOcjL)
And small meat pies have a better crust-to-filling ratio than bigger pies. Science yo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 04:46 PM (kpS4V)
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>>> 51 I'm planning on a Costco run this week to buy a tenderloin. Given what's happened to beef prices, I'm probably going to have to take some valium before I leave.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 04:43 PM (Riz8t)
One of the local grocery chains is offering whole briskets at $4 / pound (limit 2 and ending today). Even though I have a home-grown one, I may pick up one of theirs to cut into smaller pieces for St Patrick's Day and such.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 07, 2025 04:47 PM (ULPxl)
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*What food is appropriate for Pearl Harbor Day?*
Imma go with Spam Musubi.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 04:47 PM (XQo4F)
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cookies all over the counter an a sheet pan of mock almond roca
and a crock pot of chili too.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 04:48 PM (dRZit)
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59 *What food is appropriate for Pearl Harbor Day?*
Imma go with Spam Musubi.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 04:47 PM (XQo4F)
Pearl onions?
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:49 PM (RuTUS)
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19 How to get the last dregs of corn syrup out of the bottle? Ok, listen closely. I'm only going to say this once.
USE HONEY YOU HEATHEN!!!! It's better for you.
(Now, you're probably thinking that now you have the problem of getting the last dregs of the honey out of the container. No problem. It costs more, so you are likely better motivated to use every drop. It's all psychological.... )
Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 04:15 PM (dIske)
10 seconds in the microwave - honey pours right out...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 04:49 PM (tOcjL)
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I had a container of leftover turkey and bacony green beans covered in curry sauce in the freezer, so I let that simmer in the crockpot for a few hours and it was delish! Had it with sliced mangoes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 04:49 PM (kpS4V)
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53 What brand knife is that? I’m a knife connoisseur but I don’t recognize the brand. It’s very blurry. Looks like a serrated Santoku?
Posted by: Elric the Blade
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SiL knife - she is fussy with her sourdough! Brand looks like Piklohas.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 04:50 PM (41CYW)
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>>>from "scampydog," ... photos of beautiful sourdough bread that his SiL makes
It really is beautiful.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:51 PM (RuTUS)
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Science yo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 04:46 PM (kpS4V)
Yeah but when the crust is cold and sort of greasy I would prefer more filling!
67 The only bison I can get at my supermarket is in cartons.
What is meat in a carton? You don’t mean in plastic wrap sitting on a tray do you?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 04:52 PM (jMluN)
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54 What food is appropriate for Pearl Harbor Day?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 04:44 PM (XQo4F)
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Whatever was on the mess menu on the Arizona for Dec 7, 1941. I’m assuming it was simple American comfort food.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 04:53 PM (m+VGF)
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57 And small meat pies have a better crust-to-filling ratio than bigger pies. Science yo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 04:46 PM (kpS4V)
Seems geometryish.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:53 PM (RuTUS)
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55 1st time trying the "teriyaki" bag, so hopefully the included sauce doth not suck...I figure I have soy, hoisin, sesame, and oyster if something needs fixing...and hot sauce...
I almost always chuck any pre-prepared sauce that comes with food. They are usually a sickly sweet goo of corn syrup and unidentifiable other ingredients. I, like you, have all the other stuff, so I just make my own.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 04:45 PM (Riz8t)
See, I wanted the convenience today...and honestly, teriyaki is normally a sickly sweet salty sauce...so that's why it's got 2.5lbs of chicken - it's intended just to sauce the veg, but I figure expanding it over an extra 2.5 lbs of food means I can fix it while still trying it (on the off chance my health goes down and the spouse has to cook - stir fry with premade sauce was one of his 2 go tos with hamburger helper the other - and I'm sure not and no longer can eat that)...I figure it will need salt or soy and some heat (so I've already salted and peppered the chicken), but we'll see if it needs more...it's in the pan doing its thing now...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 04:54 PM (tOcjL)
71
Diogenes,
Central Market is awesome!!! Best bougie market around!
Posted by: lin-duh at December 07, 2025 04:54 PM (VCgbV)
72
For my meat pies, I use lard. Also use it for biscuits.
We found the two big leg roasts on venison corn wonderfully. Truly worth a try, if anyone harvests deer.
Posted by: MkY at December 07, 2025 04:56 PM (q6tQZ)
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@ 56 Tomorrow, the rest of the 1st batch of chicken is going in jambalaya. Figure it's another heavy seasoned dish where folks don't lament that it's not thigh that much …
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Re the thigh meat thing: Lately I've begun haunting a section I've always avoided at the meat counter part of the shelving: Organic. Turns out I've been overlooking something my inherently cheap-ass soul relates to quite easily: LOW-COST CHICKEN THIGHS. I can't recall the exact brand name now, but it's Kosher, about 8 letters, and begins with 'B'.
The 'Organic Free-Range Chicken Thighs' are a true bargain. A 6-pack of boneless/skinless thighs was $6.xx … a true 'come home with me' price. I don't intend to purchase much more than the thighs, 'cos 'organic' means only that the food's not made of metal (revisit Chemistry 101 and 'inorganic'). 'Free range' (per USDA/FDA) means only that the chickens are released from their pen for ONE HOUR a day, then re-penned. It all comes down to the definitions in the end, don't it … ? But the flavor's still there when y' cook 'em.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 04:56 PM (ayRl+)
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Best bougie market around!
Posted by: lin-duh at December 07, 2025 04:54 PM (VCgbV)
75
Tonight is sheet pan gnocchi with sausage and peppers.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 04:57 PM (A0sqA)
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There is something satisfying in from scratch baking breads and things like bluebell's ginger cookies. Having the bit of effort pay off in something delicious is part of that. But as I get more interested in what goes in my food, the from scratch baking fits in. And it's a lot of fun trying different ingredients and techniques.
This isn't a money saving matter. I'll spend for good quality ingredients. But every time I look at the list of what goes into something a simple as a loaf pf sandwich bread or can of soup, it reinforces my decision to try for healthier and tastier food.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 04:57 PM (yTvNw)
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Had it with sliced mangoes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 04:49 PM (kpS4V)
The thing I miss the most with my allergies - more than cheese, more than cashews...
Mangoes are SO good...used to be one of my 5 favorite fruits...Mango and sticky rice was my go-to Thai dessert...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 04:59 PM (tOcjL)
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Since it's deer season, I'll also add venison cans wonderfully as well.
Grandson just came in and said he really wanted some soup. He opened a jar of canned venison, threw in some veggies, and voila!
Instafood.
Posted by: MkY at December 07, 2025 05:02 PM (q6tQZ)
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-92 LC-39A - Kennedy Space Center - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 7, 2025
Launch Time: 6.13 p.m. EST (2313 UTC (December 8, 00:13 CET))
https://youtu.be/sOCnytxilOg
Posted by: Joyenz at December 07, 2025 05:11 PM (2F0/Y)
84
Frank's red hot sauce on chicken thighs with some Ranch for dipping for dinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 05:11 PM (9bIJg)
85a round cake pan might work
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 04:25 PM (rbvCR)
That could do it for a first try. John uses a fluted 9" pie tin with a 1.4" depth and a really nice edge that makes it super convenient to lay the crust on the pot pie and get a good seal. It also has a removable base like your regular tart pans.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 07, 2025 05:12 PM (/HDaX)
86Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 05:11 PM (9bIJg)
87
CBD,
Think along the lines of a bigger market Basket with the best produce section and fresh meat and seafood departments. There is one in the Dallas area next time you're in Texas.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 07, 2025 05:13 PM (VCgbV)
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So, bag cook is finished - needed hoisin and a cornstarch slurry. I do make better, but with the hoisin, everyone is happy with it.
Is mine better - yes.
Does mine cost more and take longer - yes.
So, this goes on "item for spouse to make if needed" list....love the veg variety and prep of the bag. And that it's not frozen and waterlogged, but fresh.
Now to eat.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 05:13 PM (tOcjL)
89
Campbell’s response is the dog that didn’t bark. The executive said the meat was “bioengineered” and he didn’t want “3d printed” meat. Campell’s yelled “we don’t 3d print our food!” Well … what about the claim that it was bioengineered? Silence.
I’ve long assumed that any food that can sit in a can at room temperature for 65 years is barely “food” — it’s processed and preserved up the wazzoo. Bioengineered” for sure.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 05:13 PM (m+VGF)
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Please don't blow the margins.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 05:09 PM (n9ltV)
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‘You fucking cock-blocker!”
— the margins
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 05:16 PM (m+VGF)
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89 Campbell’s response is the dog that didn’t bark. The executive said the meat was “bioengineered” and he didn’t want “3d printed” meat. Campell’s yelled “we don’t 3d print our food!” Well … what about the claim that it was bioengineered? Silence.
I’ve long assumed that any food that can sit in a can at room temperature for 65 years is barely “food” — it’s processed and preserved up the wazzoo. Bioengineered” for sure.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 05:13 PM (m+VGF)
Perfect for the Apocalypse...
"Intriguingly, canned foods discovered in shipwrecks and in other similar conditions were still safe to eat even more than a century later. However, this does not guarantee that the food retained its original taste and nutritional value."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:16 PM (ynpvh)
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I'm a bit fanatical about knives generally and especially kitchen knives. My favorites are Victorinox (yeah, the Swiss Army Knife people) Fibrox series. Comfortable to use, they retain an edge, and come very sharp. I've maintained mine for years using only a sharpening steel. I think they are a great value. And they are rather light for their size. That helps for folks with sore or weak hands.
While not cheap, the hand forged carbon steel knives from Townsends are a joy to use in the kitchen. I regard them like I do my cast iron cookware. They need a bit of care but should be good for generations.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 05:16 PM (yTvNw)
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94 I'm a bit fanatical about knives generally and especially kitchen knives. My favorites are Victorinox (yeah, the Swiss Army Knife people) Fibrox series. Comfortable to use, they retain an edge, and come very sharp. I've maintained mine for years using only a sharpening steel. I think they are a great value. And they are rather light for their size. That helps for folks with sore or weak hands.
While not cheap, the hand forged carbon steel knives from Townsends are a joy to use in the kitchen. I regard them like I do my cast iron cookware. They need a bit of care but should be good for generations.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 05:16 PM (yTvNw)
I saw some Victorinox luggage; absolutely amazing, as was the price...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:19 PM (ynpvh)
Frank's is good sauce.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Had to do something different. Getting tired of chicken fajitas every Sunday.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 05:21 PM (9bIJg)
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When I get the roast chicken from Costco, I fish out the kidneys and eat them. My kids think I'm nuts, but the cats agree with me.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:21 PM (ynpvh)
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I had a box of elbows laying around and picked up a block of cheese from my mother. So I decided to make my own mac & cheese. It's more work than pouring a box into a pot of boiling water for 7 minutes.
Making the cheese sauce was interesting, I didn't have milk or cream, but I had butter and I used leftover sour cream with water. The cheese sauce turned out better than expected and I added a dash of cayenne pepper to give it some spice.
Side note: A one pound box of elbows make a shitload of noodles.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 05:22 PM (w6S0H)
Rumors starting to wind up over release of the Epstein files this week and the star appearance of Tom Hanks as a kiddy diddler.
_______________________________________________
I initially read that as 'a kitty diddler' …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 05:23 PM (ayRl+)
Rumors starting to wind up over release of the Epstein files this week and the star appearance of Tom Hanks as a kiddy diddler.
_______________________________________________
I initially read that as 'a kitty diddler' …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 05:23 PM (ayRl+)
I read it as kidney diddler...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:24 PM (ynpvh)
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99 When I get the roast chicken from Costco, I fish out the kidneys and eat them. My kids think I'm nuts, but the cats agree with me.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:21 PM (ynpvh)
Then again I do like liver, gizzard, and heart as well...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:25 PM (ynpvh)
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100 I had a box of elbows laying around and picked up a block of cheese from my mother. So I decided to make my own mac & cheese. It's more work than pouring a box into a pot of boiling water for 7 minutes.
Making the cheese sauce was interesting, I didn't have milk or cream, but I had butter and I used leftover sour cream with water. The cheese sauce turned out better than expected and I added a dash of cayenne pepper to give it some spice.
Side note: A one pound box of elbows make a shitload of noodles.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 05:22 PM (w6S0H)
8 servings...although my kids swear it's 4...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 05:25 PM (tOcjL)
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So...no real food news of any import, but I did make a really tasty cider braised pork shank yesterday. I'll probably make a few pounds of sausage for the holidays on Saturday.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:25 PM (Wnv9h)
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104 100 I had a box of elbows laying around and picked up a block of cheese from my mother. So I decided to make my own mac & cheese. It's more work than pouring a box into a pot of boiling water for 7 minutes.
Making the cheese sauce was interesting, I didn't have milk or cream, but I had butter and I used leftover sour cream with water. The cheese sauce turned out better than expected and I added a dash of cayenne pepper to give it some spice.
Side note: A one pound box of elbows make a shitload of noodles.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 05:22 PM (w6S0H)
8 servings...although my kids swear it's 4...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 05:25 PM (tOcjL)
Any box is a single serving if you can eat it all in one sitting...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:27 PM (ynpvh)
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If you like classic hot sauces like Tabasco (still the supreme OG in my book) and Frank’s, try some Jamaican hot sauces from brands like Grace. They have a slightly different flavor while still bringing the heat. Hot and sultry Island Girls sold separately.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 05:27 PM (m+VGF)
108But the larger issue of so-called "lab-grown meat" being used in processed food is a non-starter. So what? As long as they reveal the origin of the "meat" on the label, if that's what people want to spend their money on, whose business is it to disturb that transaction?
I was under the impression that the issue is processed food containing lab-grown "meat" with no indication on the label.
Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2025 05:27 PM (FMtrg)
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107 If you like classic hot sauces like Tabasco (still the supreme OG in my book) and Frank’s, try some Jamaican hot sauces from brands like Grace. They have a slightly different flavor while still bringing the heat. Hot and sultry Island Girls sold separately.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 07, 2025 05:27 PM (m+VGF)
Rolled on the hips of...oh, that's cigars, never mind.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:28 PM (ynpvh)
110how do you people get the last bit of thick syrup out of the container
Put it in the microwave for about ten to fifteen seconds, in direct defiance of warnings on the plastic or glass bottle. It becomes almost as liquid as water.
If I’m measuring syrup (I did it just today with molasses, making peanut brittle), I will measure it into a glass measuring cup, then put the cup in the microwave for ten to fifteen seconds.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 05:28 PM (LHPAg)
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108 But the larger issue of so-called "lab-grown meat" being used in processed food is a non-starter. So what? As long as they reveal the origin of the "meat" on the label, if that's what people want to spend their money on, whose business is it to disturb that transaction?
I was under the impression that the issue is processed food containing lab-grown "meat" with no indication on the label.
Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2025 05:27 PM (FMtrg)
Yes, Campbell's website even touts the realness of their chicken...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 05:29 PM (tOcjL)
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108 But the larger issue of so-called "lab-grown meat" being used in processed food is a non-starter. So what? As long as they reveal the origin of the "meat" on the label, if that's what people want to spend their money on, whose business is it to disturb that transaction?
I was under the impression that the issue is processed food containing lab-grown "meat" with no indication on the label.
Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2025 05:27 PM (FMtrg)
The current cost would be prohibitive. It would be more likely they used meat slime reconstituted that lab-grown meat...
Not saying that's what they're doing, as I'm not up for being sued for defamation...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:29 PM (ynpvh)
114Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:25 PM (Wnv9h)
115I can't find pork shanks anywhere!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 05:30 PM
Neither could I. When my local Market Basket had some, I grabbed a couple. Then I went to H-Mart and realized they have cross cut shanks all the time. Along with lamb tong.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:32 PM (Wnv9h)
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114 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:25 PM (Wnv9h)
I can't find pork shanks anywhere!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 05:30 PM (n9ltV)
Just don't go long on pork shanks...that's Cannibal Bob's territory.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:32 PM (ynpvh)
117I can't find pork shanks anywhere!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 05:30 PM (n9ltV)
If I could, I'd be cooking like I'm in Heidelberg!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 07, 2025 05:32 PM (/HDaX)
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>>Side note: A one pound box of elbows make a shitload of noodles.
I make mac 'n cheese on the smoker. I make a box full of elbows and freeze individual bags of it. Can confirm a one pound box makes a lot of mac 'n cheese.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 05:32 PM (viF8m)
119it was pleasant, and the cask ale I drank with it was delicious
The one time I was in London, back in the nineties, I happened to be walking through the courts section around lunchtime. I stopped in a pub for a bite and a beer. The food was nothing special, but the beer was delicious. I quickly noticed that I was probably the only person in the bar with food.
Throughout lunchtime, groups of men in suits would come in, drink a couple of pints for lunch, and then go back to whatever it was they did.
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Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 05:29 PM (tOcjL)
As long as it's not like the Real Imitation, Fresh Frozen, Jumbo Shrimp.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:33 PM (ynpvh)
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@ 107 If you like classic hot sauces like Tabasco (still the supreme OG in my book) and Frank’s, try some Jamaican hot sauces from brands like Grace. They have a slightly different flavor while still bringing the heat. Hot and sultry Island Girls sold separately. ________________________________________
There's a brand I found in one of the 3 MexiMarts in Smyrna, TN - it's brand name is 'El Yucateco' (as in 'Yucatan'). Terrific assortment of flavors, and their product is WAY less expensive than the brands in 'regular' grocery stores. One of the best I've found to date is 'Habañero & Coffee'. Next up are 'Hot Sauce Chile Habañero' and a Picamas 'Salsa Brava Hot Sauce'. Most expensive was the 'Habañero & Coffee' at $3.79; the others were less than $3.50 each. If you haven't visited a true 'MexiMart', find one and browse - and stay away from the pastries section, 'cos that'll put weight on just looking at it.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 05:33 PM (ayRl+)
122
Spouse has a dessert contest for work this week - discussing with him whether time and effort matters for that event. I have a killer chocolate snowball cookie that I have to put time and energy into that is loved...but I also make killer boxed dark chocolate brownies with sea salt and dark chocolate chips that takes me 5 minutes that his own workmates have already declared amazing and gotten 3rds when he's brought them in the past (to be fair, they did the same with the cookies, but powder sugar and work clothes, too). Since it's a weekday and he has to ride the train (aka, fragile is bad) and walk 1/2 mile and chocolate is expensive, I'm leaning box b/c I got that cheap, but will use the expensive chips for it...
I also said he could skip the contest part and just put them out...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 05:33 PM (tOcjL)
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Along with other home cooking matters, we rarely get bags of shredded cheese. It's for the taste and avoids the additives to grate our own from a block of cheese. It's worth the extra cost to get the specific maker and type we want for a recipe.
We usually end up with small chunks of different cheeses. I grate them up, mix 'em together and use them to make grilled cheese sammies. The random combinations have worked out well.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 05:34 PM (yTvNw)
124
The cookbook, "Great British Cooking: A Well-Kept Secret" has a great recipe for pork pie.
I've made it a few times, and everyone loves it.
It's one of those dishes that aren't particularly hard to make but is time-consuming.
Better than one you buy.
Check it out should you have that cookbook.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 05:35 PM (iJfKG)
125
There’s a pork pie in The Deplorable Gourmet too, but I haven’t tried it yet.
To paraphrase naturalfake, “Check it out, you should have that cookbook.”
https://youtu.be/1rR-wqxRjIg
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 04:05 PM (ynpvh)
Well, they don't have F-86s at least.
Posted by: MiG-15s at December 07, 2025 05:39 PM (4786I)
129Big whoop. Is there anyone on the face of planet Earth that thought Campbell's soups represented haute cuisine?
I don't know why they fired the exec, I largely agreed with him.
It is "Poor People's Food" because the store brand is always less expensive and of the same "quality" as Campbell's. The only ones who would buy the Campbell brand are those spending other people's money aka "The Poor".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 05:39 PM (a4flb)
130 To paraphrase naturalfake, “Check it out, you should have that cookbook.”
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 07, 2025 05:36 PM (EXyHK)
The Anarchist Cookbook?
I'll show myself out before I get pelted with tomatoes...
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 05:40 PM (4786I)
131
Oddball dinner here. Bowl of knock off brand frosted mini wheats/milk. Cravings are a strange thing.
Posted by: scampydog at December 07, 2025 05:41 PM (41CYW)
132My pie had damn well better have fruit in it. Or, in the case of pecan pie, pecans.
A bit of orange zest in pecan pie it pushes it up a few notches. And ecco, fruit!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 05:42 PM (9bIJg)
137
I assume most, if not all, folks on the thread have the Deplorable Gourmet Cookbook. A reminder. I periodically thumb through it and am always amazed by the many fantastic recipes. Every one we've tried has been great.
We've given several as gifts even though we have to explain some of the humor and inside jokes.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 05:43 PM (yTvNw)
138There’s a pork pie in The Deplorable Gourmet too, but I haven’t tried it yet.
To paraphrase naturalfake, “Check it out, you should have that cookbook.”
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 07, 2025 05:36 PM
Hey! I have a copy of that. I should probably check out the pork pie recipe.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:43 PM (Wnv9h)
I used to own a copy of that. Finally put it in my yard sale pile a few months ago for the neighborhood yard sale. Despite being a 20-zillionth printing, it appeared to be worth somewhat north of a hundred dollars. So I put something like $60 on it… and it sold with no haggling.
I was happy with that, and I’m pretty sure the person who bought it was.
140
I can't find pork shanks anywhere!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
You can find them on the hogs!
Last place you look, I know.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
The hogs are kinda stingy about sharing them, though.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 05:44 PM (9bIJg)
141
136 "Great British Cooking: A Well-Kept Secret"
So well kept even the Brits don't know about it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 05:42 PM (9bIJg)
They must be better than the Scots - I watched the Great British Baking Show holiday with the Scottish tradition and their take on fruit cake might be even worse than the original...rather than any cake, let's just stuff the brick in a shortbread crust and bake it forever, so you can just have a rock hard lump of candied, dried, alcohol infused fruit in the middle...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 05:45 PM (tOcjL)
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71 Diogenes,
Central Market is awesome!!! Best bougie market around!
Posted by: lin-duh at December 07, 2025 04:54 PM (VCgbV)
I'll go for a regular old run of the mill HEB.
(Though I concede I had a prof bring in some Turkish delight from a San Antonio Central Market to bribe us to go to his Islamic Civ class the day before Thanksgiving. It was good - but I want to try it just before I wash it down with coffee.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 05:48 PM (4786I)
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129 Big whoop. Is there anyone on the face of planet Earth that thought Campbell's soups represented haute cuisine?
I don't know why they fired the exec, I largely agreed with him.
It is "Poor People's Food" because the store brand is always less expensive and of the same "quality" as Campbell's. The only ones who would buy the Campbell brand are those spending other people's money aka "The Poor".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 05:39 PM (a4flb)
In Mexico, huitlacoche, known as corn smut, was a big problem for the corn crop, and only those too poor for no other choice would eat it; turns out it tastes pretty good (corn-flavored mushroom), and when rich folk found out about it, it became haute cuisine...and expensive.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:48 PM (ynpvh)
144My pie had damn well better have fruit in it. Or, in the case of pecan pie, pecans.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 05:38 PM
I make a killer Dickensian mincemeat pie with brisket, apple, pear, other fruits an spices, and an Imperial crapton of alcohol.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:48 PM (Wnv9h)
145If you like classic hot sauces like Tabasco (still the supreme OG in my book) and Frank’s, try some Jamaican hot sauces from brands like Grace.
Let me be tonight's hot sauce sommelier.
Tabasco is best paired with Campbell's Chicken Soup and slices of uncured ham or blended with ketchup for recipes involving that tomato/vinegar condiment.
Tapatio is served best on top of breakfast eggs, scrambled or otherwise unless....
You are corrupting a properly made omelet, in which case, a more complex Cholula is recommended. If goat cheese is part of the omelet, then Cholula in the sweet habanero variety is socially acceptable.
For chili, particularly if the chili is covering corn chips, then a few drops of Dave's Insanity Sauce should add the extra snake bite for chili on cold days.
I find that mixing Dave's Ghost Pepper in with brisket or pulled pork injection adds a crowd pleasing spice.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 05:49 PM (a4flb)
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Speaking of "Great British Cooking: A Well-Kept Secret" again...
The kiddos have decided on Roast Prime Rib and Roast Leg of Lamb for Christmas Dinner.
GBC:AWKS has the best Mint Sauce Recipe for the lamb, and an excellent Yorkshire Pudding recipe as well, so the Prime Rib won't feel lonesome.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 05:49 PM (iJfKG)
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I'm partial to Progresso soups myself but Campbell's does make some decent soups, especially in the Chunky line.
Campbell's "Cream Of..." soups are really good for making quick recipes for baking, too.
I love baking chicken with the Cream of Chicken with Herbs soup for example. It's pretty easy to make.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 05:49 PM (6ydKt)
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Not saying that's what they're doing, as I'm not up for being sued for defamation...
Posted by: jim
Not to worry, Ace carries a bajillion dollar insurance policy that covers that unless you're in the E.U.
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 05:51 PM (Y8DZL)
149The kiddos have decided on Roast Prime Rib and Roast Leg of Lamb for Christmas Dinner.
GBC:AWKS has the best Mint Sauce Recipe for the lamb, and an excellent Yorkshire Pudding recipe as well, so the Prime Rib won't feel lonesome.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 05:49 PM
Since it's just me and the RMBS Mom, I'll be making individual beef Arthur Wellesley.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:51 PM (Wnv9h)
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147 I'm partial to Progresso soups myself but Campbell's does make some decent soups, especially in the Chunky line.
Campbell's "Cream Of..." soups are really good for making quick recipes for baking, too.
I love baking chicken with the Cream of Chicken with Herbs soup for example. It's pretty easy to make.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 05:49 PM (6ydKt)
Cream of Celery and Cream of Mushroom...used together with chicken and rice...
Mom used to make that one. My favorite pieces were the corners which had the greatest amount of sauce/rice crunchies...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:52 PM (ynpvh)
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148 Not saying that's what they're doing, as I'm not up for being sued for defamation...
Posted by: jim
Not to worry, Ace carries a bajillion dollar insurance policy that covers that unless you're in the E.U.
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 05:51 PM (Y8DZL)
EU willingly sucks balls.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:52 PM (ynpvh)
HEB has some regional brands that are really good. Though in ETX we are denied HEB, when I'm in The Woodlands there is a large and upscale HEB we raid for their charro beans, Hill Country Fair Fajita meat (blue packaging) and other staples that are better than the majors.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 05:52 PM (a4flb)
153Hey! I have a copy of that. I should probably check out the pork pie recipe.
From “Artisanal ette”. That’s a nic I haven’t seen in a while.
154Campbell's "Cream Of..." soups are really good for making quick recipes for baking, too.
I love baking chicken with the Cream of Chicken with Herbs soup for example. It's pretty easy to make.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 05:49 PM
In P.J. O'Rourke's The Bachelor's Home Companion, he described a dish called Girlfriend Chicken, which was just a chicken breast cooked in cream of mushroom soup. Usually made by girl bachelors.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:54 PM (Wnv9h)
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This is all making me hungry...maybe I'll make some more pork adobado tacos...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:54 PM (ynpvh)
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Tabasco is too hot for my taste.
The most I can do is Texas Pete or just eat plain pepperoncini.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 05:54 PM (6ydKt)
157From “Artisanal ette”. That’s a nic I haven’t seen in a while.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 07, 2025 05:53 PM
True. Hmm...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:54 PM (Wnv9h)
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Cream of Celery and Cream of Mushroom...used together with chicken and rice...
Mom used to make that one. My favorite pieces were the corners which had the greatest amount of sauce/rice crunchies...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:52 PM (ynpvh)
I hadn't heard of that, but it does sound good.
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In P.J. O'Rourke's The Bachelor's Home Companion, he described a dish called Girlfriend Chicken, which was just a chicken breast cooked in cream of mushroom soup. Usually made by girl bachelors.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2025 05:54 PM (Wnv9h)
It honestly tastes to me like a poor man's quick chicken & dumplings. I love chicken & dumplings so it's right up my alley. You just serve it with white rice (the gravy from the chicken baked is tasty) and some vegetables and you're set.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 05:57 PM (6ydKt)
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Picked up three pounds of stew meat at Sam's yesterday. Gonna try my hand at chili next weekend.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 05:58 PM (9bIJg)
160 One 12 oz can of cooked Roast Beef.
One can Cream of Mushroom soup. Campbells if you're hoity toity.
One package of prepared mashed potatoes.
Layer with the beef on the bottom, then soup, then potatoes, throw a hunk of butter on top in a soup pot, oven bake for a half hour or stove top it.
Simple but insanely good.
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 06:00 PM (Y8DZL)
Marie Sharp's "Smokin' Marie" Smoked Habanero Hot Sauce.
It'll tickle your innards.
Spicy and smokey. It's good on just about anything but I especially like to throw a couple of shakes into scrambled eggs.
You can find it on Amazon and elsewhere.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 06:03 PM (iJfKG)
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Sunday steak was Tbones. Beautiful specimens wood fired to perfection. Little couldn't finish his, and I gave him the smallest one. Looks like steak and eggs pour moi tomorrow. Le sigh...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 07, 2025 06:04 PM (EpWbS)
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I get a 10% discount on all HEB brands including Central Market, Mi Tienda, Hill Country fare, etc. and around major holidays they bump it up to 25%. The spawn works at one.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 07, 2025 06:07 PM (VCgbV)
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Cream of Celery and Cream of Mushroom...used together with chicken and rice...
Mom used to make that one. My favorite pieces were the corners which had the greatest amount of sauce/rice crunchies...
Posted by: jim
My late wife used to make a gravy with apple cider vinegar and golden mushroom soup for burgers/salsbury steak. I need to try to recreate it. It was even good on the mashed potatoes.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:07 PM (9bIJg)
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Tomorrow is beef stroganoff day. (Recipe in the Deplorable Gourmet.) My job is to cut up the steak in a size Mrs. JTB deems appropriate. Besides the usual fine meal there is entertainment value. The next morning I can admire the pock mark patterns in the leftover sauce where SOMEONE (not me) has plucked out pieces of steak during the night.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 06:08 PM (yTvNw)
166Tabasco is too hot for my taste.
The most I can do is Texas Pete or just eat plain pepperoncini.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 05:54 PM (6ydKt)
I know this sounds crazy but try Tabasco's Jalapeno sauce; it's a light green color. Very, very mild. I like the Tabasco Smoked Chipotle one, but that has heat. The jalapeno one, surprisingly, does not.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:09 PM (gKDq2)
Oh my. If I'm doing Tobasco, I go right past the regular stuff and shake on the Tabasco Scorpion Sauce. Just be careful, like any spice, one doesn't want the spice to be the main flavor.
In FW, there is this place "Dave's Hot Chicken". Their "Reaper" wings required the diner to sign a waver before eating. It was roughly on par with Plucker's "Fire In the Hole" offering. It could cause a person's eyes to water - but I have had hotter Asian dishes that the point and purpose was to destroy the taste buds.
I remember going to P.F. Chang and ordering their "spicy" version of Orange Beef. All I could taste was the spice. No good.
Spice has its place. I think it was to mask the taste of past-it's-prime meat.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 06:10 PM (a4flb)
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158 Cream of Celery and Cream of Mushroom...used together with chicken and rice...
Mom used to make that one. My favorite pieces were the corners which had the greatest amount of sauce/rice crunchies...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 05:52 PM (ynpvh)
I hadn't heard of that, but it does sound good.
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Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 05:57 PM (6ydKt)
Simple recipe, can be found online under "No-Peek Chicken"...some use different cream soups.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:13 PM (ynpvh)
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I know this sounds crazy but try Tabasco's Jalapeno sauce; it's a light green color. Very, very mild. I like the Tabasco Smoked Chipotle one, but that has heat. The jalapeno one, surprisingly, does not.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:09 PM (gKDq2)
I'll have to pick one up and see.
I only use the Texas Pete in soups and chili basically.
For tacos I use Herdez Street Taco sauce, both the red and the green styles.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:13 PM (6ydKt)
170 Spice has its place. I think it was to mask the taste of past-it's-prime meat.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 06:10 PM (a4flb)
For some foods, yes. Look up how choriso was made and used...LOL.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:14 PM (ynpvh)
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Did I miss the biscuits and gravy guy saying that he was using self-rising flour?
Slightly related: I once had a PhD chemist boss who had herded sheep (family business) in the mountains in summer, and made sourdough biscuits in a Dutch oven. They fed the middles of the biscuits to the dogs and the hoomans just at the crispy outsides.
Posted by: KT at December 07, 2025 06:16 PM (7vIsy)
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I had what I call a McWhiteTrash breakfast sandwich this morning.
Two slices of white bread
Slice of Spam (the genuine stuff, no "low-sodium", etc.)
Slice of Kraft American Singles pasteurized process cheese-flavored food (I like quality cheese -- this is not the place for it).
Jalapeno slices
Mayonnaise
Butter
Fry the Spam lightly -- just enough to get some caramelization.
Glop mayonnaise (or Miracle Whip, if you must... me, there are limits to how far down the white trash road I'm willing to go -- similarly, you could try Velveeta rather than the Kraft American Singles) on the white bread.
Add Spam, cheese, and jalapeno slices
Butter both sides of sandwich exterior
Grill using either (ideal) a George Foreman Grill, a panini press (if you're a fancy-pants mofo), or one side at a time in skillet.
Wait for picket line of cardiologists to form.
Enjoy.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2025 06:17 PM (IG3/x)
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Throughout lunchtime, groups of men in suits would come in, drink a couple of pints for lunch, and then go back to whatever it was they did.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 07, 2025 05:33 PM (EXyHK)
One of my favorite pubs in London is called "The Harp," and it is just a few minute's walk from the National Gallery and National Portrait Gallery.
I think they might sell bags of crisps, but no hot food, and I don't recall seeing anyone eating anything.
The point of the place is the beer, and it is damned good stuff.
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For tacos I use Herdez Street Taco sauce, both the red and the green styles.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Frontera. Fajita sauce and they make a taco sauce. It's a liquid in a foil package. Pretty good.
Then again, I'm pretty easy to please.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:19 PM (9bIJg)
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One of my Mom's disgusting dishes was Campbell's Cream Of Mushroom Soup basted on cod filets and broiled. Oh god...
Posted by: pawn at December 07, 2025 06:20 PM (70YV/)
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Simple recipe, can be found online under "No-Peek Chicken"...some use different cream soups.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:13 PM (ynpvh)
The pictures I'm seeing look really good.
I might have to try that one day.
The chicken & rice I've had is a lot simpler.
Chicken cooked in a pot with link sausage cut in thirds, add white rice, and a lot of salt & pepper. The last few times I added sauteed diced onions & bell peppers.
I guess some call that Chicken Bog as opposed to just chicken and rice.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:20 PM (6ydKt)
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174 For tacos I use Herdez Street Taco sauce, both the red and the green styles.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Frontera. Fajita sauce and they make a taco sauce. It's a liquid in a foil package. Pretty good.
Then again, I'm pretty easy to please.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:19 PM (9bIJg)
I can't get any decent yellow corn tortillas unless I drive south (towards Mexico) or north (towards North County); both places have lots of folks from south of the border and know what tortillas should look like, be made with, and how thick they should be.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:21 PM (ynpvh)
I make SPAM and cheese sandwiches on crappy white bread. I slice and cook the SPAM in a quickie B-B-Q sauce of white vinegar and brown sugar until syrupy. Then two slices on a sandwich with cheese. No sauce needed.
Mom's recipe. I only add whole dried Thai bird chilis for heat.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:21 PM (gKDq2)
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They're about to open a Dave's Hot Chicken in my town. I've heard good things about them. I'm not a fan of ultra-spicy food, at least not since I hit 29, but I do love good fried chimkin.
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 06:21 PM (GALGA)
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175 One of my Mom's disgusting dishes was Campbell's Cream Of Mushroom Soup basted on cod filets and broiled. Oh god...
Posted by: pawn at December 07, 2025 06:20 PM (70YV/)
Here, here, have some Lutefisk...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:22 PM (ynpvh)
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> I make SPAM and cheese sandwiches on crappy white bread.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:21 PM (gKDq2)
Ah, another man of discerning tastes.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2025 06:22 PM (IG3/x)
182 I seem to remember a cookbook from long long ago about "Home from the Bar Late" which had some god-awful past expiration date canned food thrown together for barely functional adults.
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 06:23 PM (Y8DZL)
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So, prime grade prime rib from costco? Do they typically have it this time of year?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 07, 2025 06:25 PM (KiBMU)
184
SpaceX launch scrubbed for today due to bad weather. Hoping to retry tomorrow.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 06:25 PM (4mmkh)
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Frontera. Fajita sauce and they make a taco sauce. It's a liquid in a foil package. Pretty good.
Then again, I'm pretty easy to please.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:19 PM (9bIJg)
They have it at WallyMart here.
I'll have to try the Fajita Skillet Sauce and the Chicken Taco Skillet sauce next time I order from them.
Thanks!
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:26 PM (6ydKt)
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181 > I make SPAM and cheese sandwiches on crappy white bread.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:21 PM (gKDq2)
Ah, another man of discerning tastes.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2025 06:22 PM (IG3/x)
There's the "Mexican" version...very thin slices of spam between two tortillas, cheese added to make everything stick together. Heat in a pan, turning over once to heat up both sides. Spam quesadilla.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:26 PM (ynpvh)
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183 So, prime grade prime rib from costco? Do they typically have it this time of year?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 07, 2025 06:25 PM (KiBMU)
Their spiral ham is pretty tasty. Made that a week+ ago...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:27 PM (ynpvh)
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JTB, so glad you liked the gingerbread man recipe! It's a tried and true favorite around here.
Dash, if you want I can get your email from Ben Had and send you the recipe.
Posted by: bluebell at December 07, 2025 06:27 PM (79pEw)
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Sigh...I made another "Muddy Buddy" Chex mix yesterday - this one was daughter request - add peanuts and extra peanut butter to the chocolate and powdered sugar fiesta and just use the single Rice Chex...it was very good. I was gonna have a cup of it now...it apparently is gone - whole dang box of Chex mix plus 1/3 jar of peanuts and all the fixings again gone in 24 hours.
I can't make this stuff fast enough this season.
I am out of gingerbread cookies, so I'll be baking holiday cookie 2 this week (on top of spouse's work dessert and youth group desserts...and probably more Chex Mix so I can get more than a taste)...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 06:28 PM (tOcjL)
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183 So, prime grade prime rib from costco? Do they typically have it this time of year?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 07, 2025 06:25 PM (KiBMU)
I just have a very hard time plunking down $10+/lb for meat...and forget about fish at Costco in Kali, it's closer to $16 to $20/lb...raw.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:28 PM (ynpvh)
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I forget who told me to use Black beans instead of Pinto beans for my Taco Tuesdays but I tried them and I still eat them, then I use the leftover half of the can to add to chili another day in the week.
I get the Goya brand and they're pretty good beans.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:29 PM (6ydKt)
Our last couple packages (various brands) are all... sucky.
Pale color, no smoke flavor, cooks up like shit. Mostly fat. What gives? Is it just us?
(no it's not just us.)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 06:29 PM (NwnyJ)
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187 183 So, prime grade prime rib from costco? Do they typically have it this time of year?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 07, 2025 06:25 PM (KiBMU)
Their spiral ham is pretty tasty. Made that a week+ ago...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at
They used to sell a prepped crown roast of pork tied up and stuffed with sourdough dressing. It was really really good. Especially if you didn’t overcook the pork.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 06:29 PM (mT+6a)
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While nothing fancy tonight, Burritos tomorrow
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 06:29 PM (Ia/+0)
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So, prime grade prime rib from costco? Do they typically have it this time of year?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 07, 2025 06:25 PM (KiBMU)
Mine does, but their prime beef varies wildly. I go to Costco with the assumption that I will not be buying beef, and that is the case about half the time.
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I've recently found the joy of buying a store roasted chicken (1/2 for $6, a whole for $10). With the whole, I get chicken legs and wings, plus skin, the first day. Then I make chicken salad with the rest. That gives me 4 or 5 sandwiches. Not bad for the money.
This time, I took the carcass and what not and make a stock. Got six of my pint containers for the freezer. Not a bad bonus. I'll use it in either chicken or bean soup.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:30 PM (gKDq2)
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I can't get any decent yellow corn tortillas unless I drive south (towards Mexico) or north (towards North County); both places have lots of folks from south of the border and know what tortillas should look like, be made with, and how thick they should be.
Posted by: jim
Try making your own.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:30 PM (9bIJg)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:30 PM (6ydKt)
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196 I've recently found the joy of buying a store roasted chicken (1/2 for $6, a whole for $10). With the whole, I get chicken legs and wings, plus skin, the first day. Then I make chicken salad with the rest. That gives me 4 or 5 sandwiches. Not bad for the money.
This time, I took the carcass and what not and make a stock. Got six of my pint containers for the freezer. Not a bad bonus. I'll use it in either chicken or bean soup.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:30 PM (gKDq2)
Costco roast chicken is...$5? For a whole. I'll buy one, strip the meat off while it's still warm. If I have the ingredients, I'll make chicken salad for the kiddos (have to use non-egg mayo, as older child became allergic to egg yolks)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:32 PM (ynpvh)
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197 I can't get any decent yellow corn tortillas unless I drive south (towards Mexico) or north (towards North County); both places have lots of folks from south of the border and know what tortillas should look like, be made with, and how thick they should be.
Posted by: jim
Try making your own.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:30 PM (9bIJg)
I have, mostly the flour tortillas when I was on dialysis. Store-bought had salt, so I had to make my own using herbs...
Too much work, easier just to buy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:33 PM (ynpvh)
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I can't get any decent yellow corn tortillas unless I drive south (towards Mexico) or north (towards North County); both places have lots of folks from south of the border and know what tortillas should look like, be made with, and how thick they should be.
Posted by: jim
Try making your own. They can't be that hard. People have been making their own for hundreds of years. I'm more fond of flour. They don't seem to tear as easy.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:33 PM (9bIJg)
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201 I can't get any decent yellow corn tortillas unless I drive south (towards Mexico) or north (towards North County); both places have lots of folks from south of the border and know what tortillas should look like, be made with, and how thick they should be.
Posted by: jim
Try making your own. They can't be that hard. People have been making their own for hundreds of years. I'm more fond of flour. They don't seem to tear as easy.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:33 PM (9bIJg)
Corn tortillas are better for some things, flour for others...they each have their place.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:34 PM (ynpvh)
203I get the Goya brand and they're pretty good beans.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:29 PM (6ydKt)
Agreed. IMO, the best canned bean on the market. (Just never buy anybody's canned kidney beans as they all suck.)
I'll use Goya canned pink beans and make my own refried beans.
I'll also use any of the red or black beans, rinsed and add to salads. A small can goes a long way that way.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:34 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:35 PM (9bIJg)
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> I can't get any decent yellow corn tortillas unless I drive south (towards Mexico) or north (towards North County)
They're pretty easy to make, and likely cheaper and less time-consuming than a road trip. You may want to get a tortilla press if you get into it in a big way (I have one) but a rolling pin will work until then.
Homemade Tortillas (small batch)
1/2 cup dried masa. 1/2 teaspoon salt. Add 1/4 cup of warm-to-hot water, mix thoroughly. Add small amounts of water at a time until dough comes together (about 1 oz more, usually). Knead and mix for 5 minutes. Roll into 5 ping-pong ball size (small size) or 3 larger balls (normal size).
Cover with damp paper towel and let rest for 15 minutes
Heat a skillet... cast iron ideal. No oil. It should be hot, just on the verge of smoking.
Use a tortilla press or a rolling pin to smash balls flat between layers of plastic. Split-open Ziploc-style freezer bags work very well.
Cook for 10 seconds on first side, flip, cook for 15 seconds, flip again, lightly tap top surface until tortilla starts to puff up,
Way better than store-bought, IMO, unless you have access to a Mexican grocery that makes them on the spot.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2025 06:35 PM (IG3/x)
Got my reservation in for tamales for Christmas Eve dinner was per Texas/Texican tradition.
Weird that you have to reserve a batch of tamales, but such is the case this time of year unless you enjoy standing in the cold for a few hours.
...only to have them run out at the last minute.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 06:36 PM (iJfKG)
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My wife, MIL and FIL, got rest their souls, loved to eat sweet potatoes roasted (in aluminum foil) on the Traeger. Those sweet potatoes tasted marvelous, but were not really healthy for diabetics like the three of them were...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:37 PM (ynpvh)
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Way better than store-bought, IMO, unless you have access to a Mexican grocery that makes them on the spot.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2025 06:35 PM (IG3/x)
I remember as a kid going to the tortilleria...the smell was heaven, the tortillas were wonderful. Mom would buy them by the kilo.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:39 PM (ynpvh)
209 Hey do any of you make Panettone for Christmas?
Is it as easy as it looks?
I was vaguely thinking of making Christmas Stollen this year.
But panettone looks like it lives in the same neighborhood and is easier.
Any good recipes?
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 06:39 PM (iJfKG)
210I can't get any decent yellow corn tortillas unless I drive south (towards Mexico) or north (towards North County); both places have lots of folks from south of the border and know what tortillas should look like, be made with, and how thick they should be.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:21 PM (ynpvh)
One of the pluses of living in Queens. I buy at the grocery store a pretty tasty brand of 8" corn tortillas, perfect for tacos. Good price. 25 for like two bucks, something like that.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:39 PM (gKDq2)
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Grilled sea bass, sautéed asparagus and a little rice. Got leftovers for lunch tomorrow. Time for a cigar and a glass of Marsala on the patio.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 07, 2025 06:40 PM (3Ope8)
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I remember as a kid going to the tortilleria...the smell was heaven, the tortillas were wonderful. Mom would buy them by the kilo.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:39 PM (ynpvh)
One of the things I miss about living in California is that sort of stuff.
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Heat a skillet... cast iron ideal. No oil. It should be hot, just on the verge of smoking.
Use a tortilla press or a rolling pin to smash balls flat between layers of plastic. Split-open Ziploc-style freezer bags work very well.
I picked up a Lodge 10 & 1/2" round griddle specifically for heating tortillas. It has a small lip vs a bigger lip of a skillet. Easier to flip tortillas by hand.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:42 PM (9bIJg)
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One of the pluses of living in Queens. I buy at the grocery store a pretty tasty brand of 8" corn tortillas, perfect for tacos. Good price. 25 for like two bucks, something like that.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:39 PM (gKDq2)
There are some Mexican stores that make their tortillas fresh, but again, I have to drive to north county or south of Interstate 8 to get 'em. Too lazy, don't drive much these days, and won't be driving at all for 6 wks after my 2nd man-Caesarean...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:42 PM (ynpvh)
215Try making your own. They can't be that hard. People have been making their own for hundreds of years. I'm more fond of flour. They don't seem to tear as easy.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:33 PM (9bIJg)
The corn tortillas require lard.
You also must have a tortilla press.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:42 PM (gKDq2)
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209
Hey do any of you make Panettone for Christmas?
Is it as easy as it looks?
I was vaguely thinking of making Christmas Stollen this year.
But panettone looks like it lives in the same neighborhood and is easier.
Any good recipes?
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 06:39 PM (iJfKG)
Can't help here, but I was pitching the spouse trying to make fruit cake with fresh fruit and alcohol (unfortunately would be skipping the nuts) without days of soaking. Kinda modernizing and "health-updating" the bricks of the past...haven't decided if I'll go all in, but I did see fresh cherries on sale this week at Safeway...and fresh pineapples are on sale...and maybe fresh apples or pears or grapes...I dunno. Still in thought process...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 06:43 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 06:44 PM (iJfKG)
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Tortillas must be made with Manteca. Accept nothing less…
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 07, 2025 06:45 PM (3Ope8)
219
Unless you have a flattop gridell in your home, making tortillas is a waste of gas/electricity. I mean, it can be fun and they taste a little better than storebought but it just doesn't seem worth it. ( I suppose somewhere out there someone's figured out how to make them in the oven, perhaps. )
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2025 06:45 PM (mlg/3)
220
I picked up a Lodge 10 & 1/2" round griddle specifically for heating tortillas. It has a small lip vs a bigger lip of a skillet. Easier to flip tortillas by hand.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:42 PM (9bIJg)
This is a man who takes his tortillas seriously.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:46 PM (6ydKt)
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218 Tortillas must be made with Manteca. Accept nothing less…
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 07, 2025 06:45 PM (3Ope
Yeah, good ol' lard.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:46 PM (ynpvh)
222 I picked up a Lodge 10 & 1/2" round griddle specifically for heating tortillas. It has a small lip vs a bigger lip of a skillet. Easier to flip tortillas by hand.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2025 06:42 PM (9bIJg)
In a pinch, you can also heat up frozen pizzas on it on the stovetop.
Ask me how I know.
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:48 PM (gKDq2)
223
I just buy a ten pack of La Banderitas tortillas.
Of all the brands I've tried, like four or five of them, theirs was the tastiest. And they're kinda lighter and get fluffier than any other brand.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:48 PM (6ydKt)
224Unless you have a flattop gridell in your home, making tortillas is a waste of gas/electricity. I mean, it can be fun and they taste a little better than storebought but it just doesn't seem worth it. ( I suppose somewhere out there someone's figured out how to make them in the oven, perhaps. )
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2025 06:45 PM (mlg/3)
Depending on what I'm making, I'll often just throw the Central Market tortillas on muh flattop griddle. Give them a quick flip or two and take them off when they start to puff.
That little bit griddling makes them taste 10X better like homemade.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 06:48 PM (iJfKG)
Now for some mulled cider with cinnamon, anise, orange peel, and cloves.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 06:53 PM (A0sqA)
230Made a no-bake cheesecake for Thanksgiving. It tasted great, even if the texture was a bit odd.
Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 06:52 PM (8I4hW)
I found the same texture issue with the no-cook puddings.
How hard is it to heat milk?
Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2025 06:54 PM (gKDq2)
231
SNOWBALL CANDIES ... If anyone is looking for a quick and easy home-made treat to take to holiday gatherings -- and you also want it to be gluten-free -- here's a recipe that I tried this week and was pleased with the results ... The four ingredients are melted white chocolate, slivered almonds, flaked coconut, and Rice Krispies.
https://12tomatoes.com/slow-cooker-snowballs/
For holiday cookie swaps, I am usually asked to bring those round powdered-sugar coated shortbread-ish cookies (also sometimes called ethnic wedding cookies) ... And I will continue to make these as long as I'm asked ... For those in my universe sensitive to gluten, however, I have been trying for years to make a GF version with no success -- without gluten, they come out as flat as a pancake ... Here's hoping these candies will be well received until I can conquer the GF cookie challenge.
Posted by: Kathy at December 07, 2025 06:54 PM (zuKcR)
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Ah, the food thread! The perfect place to put this link (in re: the earlier comments on RC Colas and Moon Pies).
Big Bill Lister's 1951 recording of "Gimme an RC Cola and a Moon Pie". Not exactly Hank Williams, but it does remind me of my hometown.
https://tinyurl.com/2sww5uns
Posted by: Paco at December 07, 2025 06:55 PM (2L+MU)
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The loaf looks great scampydog, especially the scoring. Kudos to the Mrs.
Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 06:55 PM (8I4hW)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 06:59 PM (ynpvh)
239
Totally unrelated topic except that it is the weekend and we have specialty threads, I would like to request an afternoon open thread frrom the cobbs on Saturday and Sunday for current events not related to pets, movies, gardening, reading, cooking, and gubs. We always have an openish morning thread but I hesitate to pontificate on a thread six hours plus old.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 06:59 PM (jc0TO)
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231 SNOWBALL CANDIES ... If anyone is looking for a quick and easy home-made treat to take to holiday gatherings -- and you also want it to be gluten-free -- here's a recipe that I tried this week and was pleased with the results ... The four ingredients are melted white chocolate, slivered almonds, flaked coconut, and Rice Krispies.
https://12tomatoes.com/slow-cooker-snowballs/
For holiday cookie swaps, I am usually asked to bring those round powdered-sugar coated shortbread-ish cookies (also sometimes called ethnic wedding cookies) ... And I will continue to make these as long as I'm asked ... For those in my universe sensitive to gluten, however, I have been trying for years to make a GF version with no success -- without gluten, they come out as flat as a pancake ... Here's hoping these candies will be well received until I can conquer the GF cookie challenge.
Posted by: Kathy at December 07, 2025 06:54 PM (zuKcR)
Technically, unless they have changed their recipe, Rice Krispies are NOT gluten free. The store brand versions of them (Aldi's specifically that I know of) ARE gluten free. So check the labels if you are making them for GF friends...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 07, 2025 07:00 PM (tOcjL)
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236 RC Cola is already sweet.
Add Moon Pie to that and it's like diabetic shock.
Even as a kid I remember eating that combo, like a lot of people around here, and thinking "This is almost too sweet!"
Now it's not 'almost' for me anymore.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 06:57 PM (6ydKt)
I was the kid that added sugar to his Frosted Flakes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 07:00 PM (ynpvh)
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And my Dad and his people absolutely adored putting salted peanuts in their bottles of Coke.
I never got it, why do I need a bunch of peanuts floating around in my perfectly good Coke?
But they swore it was the best thing ever.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 07:00 PM (6ydKt)
243
I do a variant of Martha Stewart's no-bake cheesecake recipe.
2 blocks cream cheese
1 14 oz can sweetened condensed milk
1/4 cup lemon juice
1 tablespoon vanilla extract
Bring cream cheese to room temperature
Beat with electric mixer until smooth, then slowly add sweetened condensed milk while mixing.
Add lemon juice and vanilla, mix thoroughly.
Put in pie shells, smooth with spatula, place in refrigerator until firm.
Add any desired toppings after firmed up. I usually use canned pie filling (cherries, blueberries... it's all good)
Fills two premade pie shells.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2025 07:00 PM (IG3/x)
Did you hear that the Pillsbury Dough Boy broke up with Strawberry Shortcake?
He gave her a yeast infection.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2025 07:02 PM (IG3/x)
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Pork pies are supposed to be cold. It's a portable food.
I think there are places up North that sometimes serve them hot on bonfire night but, generally, the idea was you can take it with you and it won't fall apart.
The 'fat' is gelatin or aspic which is there to enhance the flavour of the meat and fill the gaps caused by the shrinking in the cooking process.
I prefer mine with a spicy pickle but I'd suggest the condiment that yours was served with is Piccalilli.
Posted by: stv at December 07, 2025 07:04 PM (XMeSM)
247
You can make a very decent pecan pie with just maple syrup, egg, and an ounce of bourbon or rye. Some vanilla, nutmeg, cardomon, and cinnamon is fine too.
I do not bother with corn syrup. Maple is a bit pricier, but worth it.
Do you see it? DO YOU SEE IT?
In fact, this is a double-barrelled crisis, because not only do those screw slots point in chaotic directions, some of them have worn enough to be visibly different colors!
Fire...obviously. But will it be enough? Will it be hot enough?
The struggle is real...
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:04 PM (VPtfc)
7
My house it littered with all correctly oriented screws. I changed all the outlets and switches throughout the house with the newer block style ones with new plates with screws anyway. My conscience is clear. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 02:04 PM (snZF9)
8
It's so that someone wielding a flat head screwdriver can find the slot with poor visibility...
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:04 PM (XuXeR)
9
When you look up the definition of "anal retentive" there is a description of guys that get upset by screw heads not being aligned.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:05 PM (W7XSX)
Posted by: Fritzy at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (2GIh1)
13 a well paid COB.. probably a great dental plan too.
Looks like the center and right switches are set for max power, CBD must be rich!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (dRZit)
14
The mark of a good electrician is the slots all line up vertically without warping the faceplate. Horizontal the slots tend to collect crud.
Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (vFG9F)
15
When you look up the definition of "anal retentive" there is a description of guys that get upset by screw heads not being aligned.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:05 PM (W7XSX)
There are a few reasons why electricians orient them the right way. 1- it shows they give a shit about their work, 2- dust don't gather in the screw head, and 3- it just looks better.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (snZF9)
16
Pearl Harbor Day is a day to pray for souls of all those that died in battle. I am pretty sure the good Lord is very ecumenical about mercy.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (W7XSX)
17
I don't know if it's true but I was told that on the old handbuilt Porsches, like the 356s in the 50's, screw heads were always aligned in some logical fashion.
Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (vFG9F)
18
And yet no one notices that one of the three switches is different? (no slider)
Posted by: h r giggles at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (ujHKu)
19
Someone should make velcro electrical plates
No screws
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (Ia/+0)
20
Union electricians use those old pressure labels on circuit breaker boxes and not a pencil. Clearly, my house was wired by non-union electricians.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (W7XSX)
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (W7XSX)
24 Drove to church this morning. Left the house at 5:10 and got there at 6:00. Heavy fog. Idiots driving with no lights. Idiots driving with emergency blinkers on. Idiots who keep hitting the brakes so they never go over 40 in a 65.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (tgvbd)
25
The dimmer sliders and nice. We have those too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 02:12 PM (NwnyJ)
26
My house it littered with all correctly oriented screws. I changed all the outlets and switches throughout the house with the newer block style ones with new plates with screws anyway. My conscience is clear.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Amen Brother. We're not animals!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (cYBz/)
27
Drove to church this morning. Left the house at 5:10 and got there at 6:00. Heavy fog. Idiots driving with no lights. Idiots driving with emergency blinkers on. Idiots who keep hitting the brakes so they never go over 40 in a 65.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (tgvbd)
Ah, bad weather driving. Where everyone going slower than you is an idiot, and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (4mmkh)
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When you look up the definition of "anal retentive" there is a description of guys that get upset by screw heads not being aligned.
Posted by: no one
When a craftsman pays attention to the small details, there is a exponentially larger chance that the big stuff is to code.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:14 PM (cYBz/)
29
A fox has been napping in our backyard all afternoon
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 02:15 PM (tcsrY)
30
After 1 hour in my house you’d be walking around screaming. Lol. Nothing lines up. House is 130 years old with god knows how many renovations along the way, Often times by people who had no clue what they were doing. We don’t call it bad workmanship though we call it “character”.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:15 PM (SQJLY)
31
Dug my car out for the fourth time this week. Two big snowfall days, plus two days of getting plowed back in again. I hope the rest of winter isn't like this.
Posted by: gp at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (GHIyr)
32 Ah, bad weather driving. Where everyone going slower than you is an idiot, and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (4mmkh)
____________
Pick a speed and maintain it, stay in your lane, turn your lights on. Is that too difficult?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (tgvbd)
33
Ah, bad weather driving. Where everyone going slower than you is an idiot, and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (4mmkh)
🤣
Perfectly said.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (SQJLY)
34
We have Decora wall plates, I think horizontal screw slots look better with them.
Posted by: Next2Nothing at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (tA1/w)
What if every screwhead is rotated exactly fifteen degrees to the right of the previous one...
Posted by: Kerry is so Very at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (aFbPN)
36
My son's best friend is an EE. He worked for a while as an electrician. He was knocking out the work in half the time of the fat asses because he was paid for the job, not by the hour.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (W7XSX)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (tgvbd)
38
FWIW, newish house (10 yo), all the faceplates are snap on...sigh.
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (XuXeR)
39
My FWP is CSPAN. It's books and other presentations on the weekends. All well and good except the brief descriptions on the guide tell you nothing. NOTHING! "Author Billy Bob Corncob discusses his book, The Crisis in Our . . ."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (XuXeR)
41
I bought a house and after five years, I switched a couple of switches. It took me five years to relearn what switch controlled which lights.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (W7XSX)
42
Looks like the center and right switches are set for max power, CBD must be rich!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (dRZit)
43
Everyone thinks their driving skill is above average.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (SQJLY)
44
I am actually about to replace a dimmer light switch. It is at the far-end of the spectrum of my house repair capabilities.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:20 PM (A0sqA)
45
Also, switches not facing the appropriate direction for on or off bother the hell out of me (like when multiple switches run the same thing.) Getting into a double up being off is a crisis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:20 PM (zZu0s)
46 He worked for a while as an electrician. He was knocking out the work in half the time of the fat asses because he was paid for the job, not by the hour.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (W7XSX)
_________
I worked one summer in the maintenance department at my college. They'd give me an assignment and were surprised when I came back soon after with the job done. Soon, I was advised by the permanent staff that such efficiency was not welcome.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:20 PM (tgvbd)
47
Worse yet is when one switch goes to you know not where.
Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (kYgH9)
48
Everyone thinks their children are above average.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (W7XSX)
49
CBD, you need to update those switches. They have made new ones with better controls.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (A0sqA)
50
41 I bought a house and after five years, I switched a couple of switches. It took me five years to relearn what switch controlled which lights.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (W7XSX)
In my kitchen I have a panel with 4 switches. One is the ceiling recessed lights for 1/2 the kitchen, one is the other half, one is for the cabinet lights and 1 is for the ceiling lamps.
It took me about 3 years to learn which one did what without flipping the wrong one.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (SQJLY)
51
And yet no one notices that one of the three switches is different? (no slider)
Posted by: h r giggles at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (ujHKu)
The dimmer for those lights is on the other side of the room. And...it does make sense!
52
Whoever left those bolts all catty-wampus like that is just crying for help.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (A0sqA)
53When a craftsman pays attention to the small details, there is a exponentially larger chance that the big stuff is to code.
Yes and no. I saw a picture of an electrical panel where everything was neatly ziptied and all of the wires were exactly the necessary length and no more. Absolutely beautiful.
As you might or might not expect, all the electricians and most of the code inspectors blew their tops. Because if anything breaks or needs to be changed in the future you pretty much can't without replacing that wire between the panel and the first place it connects to, or adding a junction box.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (QZThv)
54
am actually about to replace a dimmer light switch"
Well, don't worry about the breaker.. Just a waste of time, plus leaving the wires hot makes it more exciting!
(That's a joke. Don't forget the breaker)
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (XuXeR)
55
I worked one summer in the maintenance department at my college. They'd give me an assignment and were surprised when I came back soon after with the job done. Soon, I was advised by the permanent staff that such efficiency was not welcome.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
First job out of HS was as a Laborer on a Union job represented by the Teamsters. On day 1 the straw boss showed me how to turn a shovel into a serviceable place to sit down.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (cYBz/)
56
Everyone thinks their children are above average.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (W7XSX)
Bro my kid is an honor student. I have the car window sticker and everything to prove it. Of course he’s above average.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:23 PM (SQJLY)
57
Everyone thinks their children are above average.
Posted by: no one
My favorite other phrase is 'My kid fell in with the wrong crowd."
You know, that's what the other parents also say about your kid.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:24 PM (cYBz/)
58Bro my kid is an honor student. I have the car window sticker and everything to prove it. Of course he’s above average.
Did you just assume their gender?
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:24 PM (QZThv)
59
CBD, you need to update those switches. They have made new ones with better controls.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (A0sqA)
Why? The dimmers work great. I'm not made of money, unlike you rich left-coasters!
60
Wait...is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?
Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 02:25 PM (dIske)
61
I was about to say re driving that it is like golf- but that is a bad analogy.
Everyone KNOWS they suck at golf. It is possibly the most humbling sport there is, especially when you play with someone actually good. It is like they are a different species.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:25 PM (zZu0s)
62
The “slow your roll” thing happens in white collar jobs too. I was at a client once and my first week there I was all hung go to get started, I did a quick proof of concept for what I was thinking.
My buddy who got me in there came over to me and said yeah dude, you need to slow down. You’re going to ruffle feathers, nobody works fast here. lol
I was like done and done my friend. And for the rest of my time there I just followed the lead of everyone else who did jack shit all day.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:27 PM (SQJLY)
63
"Soon, I was advised by the permanent staff that such efficiency was not welcome."
Yeah, the union guys were pissed. The owner was delighted.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:27 PM (W7XSX)
64
Why? The dimmers work great. I'm not made of money, unlike you rich left-coasters!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 02:24 PM (n9ltV)
====
*replaces monacle*
*buffs suspender hardware*
Well I say old chap where are you wintering this year?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:28 PM (A0sqA)
65
is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?"
Nah, movies.
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (XuXeR)
66
Drivers here in Sh!tsville: speeders; tailgaters; nobody uses turn signals; nobody knows how to merge in traffic; half of the a-holes have pitch-black window tints so you can't make eye contact with them at four-way stops to try to figure out what they're going to do next.
Posted by: gp at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (GHIyr)
67
It's actually quite a genius design, meant to fit a dimmer in the same size aperture as the dimmerless switch.
70's genius. Like the pet rock and mood ring.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (A0sqA)
68
So, CBD, you need to insert a dime into those slots every time you want to put on some more than minimal lighting?
69
I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy. She has a vacuum strategically placed so she can vacuum as she walks out the door so no footprints disturb the carpet in her absence.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (L/fGl)
70
is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?"
Nah, movies.
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (XuXeR)
I suddenly want to type 'busty electrician' into Bing, but I am on the work wifi.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:30 PM (zZu0s)
We've got a couple of the round knob push to click on spin to dim jobs. They're cheap wobbly plastic and no replacement knobs fit.
Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:31 PM (FhXTo)
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Had them for 30 years. Seem to last about years.
The rotary ones are easily damaged
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:33 PM (A0sqA)
78
Wait...is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?
Posted by: Orson
Yes!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 02:34 PM (dRZit)
Posted by: Kerry is so Very at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (aFbPN)
80
Some bulbs will not work with a dimmer I have found
Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (kYgH9)
81n fact, this is a double-barrelled crisis, because not only do those screw slots point in chaotic directions, some of them have worn enough to be visibly different colors!
Fire...obviously. But will it be enough? Will it be hot enough?
The struggle is real...
Posted by CBD at 02:00 PM Comments
In before the 9/11 tards:
Fire can't melt steel!!! reee!!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (pJWtt)
High Intensity Discharge and we're back to a porn thread.
Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (FhXTo)
83
This drives my husband, who's an electrician, nuts.
He just told me that an inspector can fail you for that.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (22p5n)
84
Wait...is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?
Posted by: Orson
--------
Screw threads cannot be ignored.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (XeU6L)
85
I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy. She has a vacuum strategically placed so she can vacuum as she walks out the door so no footprints disturb the carpet in her absence.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM
Or she wants to be able to see if anyone came in the door while she was out. Does she also jump at loud noises? Is her handbag suspiciously heavy? Does she immediately change the subject if somebody mentions The War?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:39 PM (4mmkh)
86
Does she also jump at loud noises? Is her handbag suspiciously heavy? Does she immediately change the subject if somebody mentions The War?
___
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 07, 2025 02:41 PM (22p5n)
87
I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy.
=====
Married or single?
1 cat or more than 1 cat?
EV or ICE?
Score >1 then batshit crazy
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:41 PM (A0sqA)
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-92 LC-39A - Kennedy Space Center - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 7, 2025
Launch Time: 4:40 p.m. EST (2140 UTC, 22:40 CET)
https://youtu.be/sOCnytxilOg
Posted by: Joyenz at December 07, 2025 02:41 PM (2F0/Y)
89"Don't forget me!" - Guy with the 500,000 candlepower headlights
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:33 PM (tgvbd)
I hate - with the heat of 1000 Suns - those new LED headlights. They're the wrong spectrum (probably 5000 K). They're even worse than the High Intensity Discharge headlights.
Yeah, they give the driver great visibility, but blinding for on-coming traffic.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (pJWtt)
Fans Worry Sale Of WB To Netflix Could Turn Comic Book Movies Into Soulless Cash Grabs
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From the Bee.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (L/fGl)
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Alright time to make this happen while Mrs. F. is at the market and can't give helpful advice and supervision.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (A0sqA)
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69 I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy. She has a vacuum strategically placed so she can vacuum as she walks out the door so no footprints disturb the carpet in her absence.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (L/fGl)
Footprints on the carpet might alert you to a murderer lurking in the house. We watch a lot of murder mysteries on the TV
Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (kYgH9)
High Intensity Discharge and we're back to a porn thread.
Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (FhXTo)
Heh ... I mentioned HED headlights before I read your comment.
Some bureaucrat thinks-up a new standard that sounds great in theory -- but they forget about Human Factors. The driver of a car with HED or LED headlights isn't the only person on the road.
Congratulations, the driver can see the road and surroundings better -- BUT, the on-coming drivers are dazzled by the bright light and lose orientation.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:48 PM (pJWtt)
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Bulged cans are supposed to be bad news or something. Spaggetti sauce jar?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:48 PM (VPtfc)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:49 PM (zZu0s)
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> Do those slide dimmers work easily.
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We like them. Not as obtrusive as the old style rotary ones. One is on our kitchen undercounter LED lights.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 02:50 PM (NwnyJ)
... tell me more.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:49 PM (zZu0s)
Is that Mayor Pete "socking" one of our regulars?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (pJWtt)
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Fir the price of a good canopener you can buy a couple of six tins of corned beef.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (VPtfc)
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My sister has a phobia about tools being left out. She's seen many the movie where the wandering psycho finds a tool and uses that as a deadly weapon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (L/fGl)
1132 Old supervisor I had insisted all straight slotted screws were to be vertical.
To me that's a bit anal
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM
I believe the correct terminology for OCD people is as follows:
Screw slots vertical = anal
Screw slots horizontal = oral
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (HlyYF)
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Worse is when double pole switches cause some to be up and others down when all the lights are off. OCD!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (rHzf3)
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Have you considered crowdfunding a few tanks of napalm and have them delivered by aerial means. You might even be able to ppv the event.
Posted by: Z, no not him. A different Z at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (iAcMN)
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Can yoy bring duplicate light switches back into phase?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (VPtfc)
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My FWP is I dropped a tiny machine screw into the terrible clutter that is next to my chair. Without much hope, I went to the garage and got my magnetic pickup tool. I waved it around in the clutter and, to my great surprise, found the screw stuck to it on the first pass.
I am now waiting for the Universe to take its terrible revenge, to balance the scales of karma.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:53 PM (4mmkh)
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Well...hell.
I thought sure there'd be a surprise mystery click featuring the Electric Light Orchestra.
Sadz...
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 02:54 PM (2WIwB)
That should be HID (High Intensity Discharge) , not HED.
I really do miss the preview button we used to have before trolls broke the comments, and Pixy had to "fix" things by reverting to cutting-edge 1990s Unicode.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:54 PM (pJWtt)
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CBD, you took that picture in my house while I was in church. Didn’t you?
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (VPtfc)
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We have dimmable/programmable LED lights throughout the house, controlled by smart switches. It's nice to walk into the kitchen at 0330 with the under the shelf lights on low, then into the office with the lights rising. By the time tiny pups are fed and the coffee is loaded, everything is ready for the morning. Exterior lights on at sunset, off at sunrise. Lights in the bedrooms, the front porch and the back patio on voice command.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 07, 2025 02:57 PM (3Ope8)
123My sister has a phobia about tools being left out. She's seen many the movie where the wandering psycho finds a tool and uses that as a deadly weapon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (L/fGl)
Heh ... Mrs Cop will just fcvk-up a butter knife rather than asking for a screwdriver even though I have a fairly good collection of hand-tools.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:57 PM (pJWtt)
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Is the complete & abject horror that is Comcast qualify as FWP?
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 02:57 PM (ZxPkt)
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Worse is when double pole switches cause some to be up and others down when all the lights are off. OCD!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (rHzf3)
Better yet, have a double pole switch suddenly stop working and envision hours of chasing down bad wiring or replacing a breaker. Then realizing the other double pole across the room has just been knocked into the halfway position.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 03:01 PM (4mmkh)
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All of a sudden in sat the last two years I am seeing lots of female electricians. This job a million miles away ( seems like that driving there) is 2 women which I take it are Union starters and that happened at another job. So suspect there was a push to find women to do that work.
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 03:02 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 03:13 PM (ZxPkt)
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You know, with the proliferation of rare-earth magnets these days, you could make switch plates with no screws at all. Just neodymium magnets molded into the plastic at the screw sites. To remove a switch plate from the wall, just insert a putty knife, and twist.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:15 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:17 PM (zZu0s)
138 There's a number of lights at my house that are controlled by two switches, so the toggles do not line up as shown.
I confess to going back and forth and switch them to make sure they are all in the same direction.
I pray CBD starts an organization where we can all go, give fake names, discuss our problem, and then go meet in some discreet bar afterwards.
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 03:17 PM (Y8DZL)
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I failed. I think the light fixture needs to be replaced.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 03:21 PM (9ipOP)
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128 I was going for cans as a euphemism for breasts. Although I have seen legs referred to that way.
Wait, how is cans gay? Can it also be used for ass?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:07 PM (zZu0s)
Cans = Bewbs
Gams = Legs (outdated)
Can = Arse
Please make a note of it.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:24 PM (QGaXH)
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Pick a speed and maintain it, stay in your lane, turn your lights on. Is that too difficult?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (tgvbd)
If you have fog lights, turn the damned headlights off, and drive on the fogs. That's why you have them! Problem with fog (and blowing snow) is not lack of light, it's back-scatter from fog or snow dazzling your eyes.
Likewise, if it is clear and dry, leave you damned fog lights off when driving at night. Irritates other drivers, and creates a bright pool of light close to your car, to which your eyes become adjusted, making dimly-lit distant objects become harder to see...like that damned Bambi about set to jump into your lane.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:24 PM (npFr7)
142 The struggle is real...
Posted by: CBD
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We have faith in man, the tool user.. except for CBD!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
I'm building shelves over here. Where's my damned drill?
- probably ace
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 03:25 PM (QVmho)
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It's actually quite a genius design, meant to fit a dimmer in the same size aperture as the dimmerless switch.
70's genius. Like the pet rock and mood ring.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (A0sqA)
What happened to the round-knob dimmers? Push on, push off, rotate knob for dimming? Still have a few in my junk box. I installed exactly zero dimmers when I wired my AZ house. All LED; cost so little to run that dimming is pointless. I think most of the LED's are in fact dimmable, but I don't give a shit. If I want "mood lighting" I will plug in a floor or table lamp.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (QGaXH)
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When a craftsman pays attention to the small details, there is a exponentially larger chance that the big stuff is to code.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:14 PM (cYBz/)
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The Van Halen Brown M&M theory in a nutshell.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (QtWcb)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 03:35 PM (kpS4V)
148 Are they all screwed in to 15 ft/lbs? Why not?
ft-lbs not ft/lbs:
foot-pound
noun
ˈfu̇t-ˈpau̇nd
plural foot-pounds
: a unit of work equal to the work done by a force of one pound acting through a distance of one foot in the direction of the force.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:36 PM (jMluN)
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I'd better get back to work on the tree and outside lights - all of which we've procrastinated on since last Thursday...
Fortunately we don't have the specter of winter weather to contend with though it was down to 44 degrees yesterday morning.
Brrrrrrr!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:36 PM (QGaXH)
Foot-pounds (ft-lbs) are a unit of measurement for torque, representing the force applied at a distance of one foot from a pivot point.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:37 PM (jMluN)
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Fits and spurts?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:33 PM (QGaXH)
Isn't flowmax supposed to help with this?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:38 PM (zZu0s)
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Yeah, they give the driver great visibility, but blinding for on-coming traffic.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (pJWtt)
It's really, really hard to do good optics when you don't have a point source of light. LED's have multiple point sources, all slightly displaced from one another. It may be possible to design a lens/reflector combo that works well with a particular model of LED "bulb" as in OEM composite lamps. I doubt it's possible to design LED "bulbs" that will be truly satisfactory in a lens/reflector combo originally designed for halogen bulbs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:38 PM (npFr7)
it bugs me when a light that has 2 separate on/off switches, such as a staircase, gets the switch positions out of phase.
At the bottom of the stairs, UP is ON and you ascend. At the top, DOWN is OFF.
It is how it must be.
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (ZxPkt)
A is A
B is B
Zombie Ayn Rand
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:38 PM (QGaXH)
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The slide dimmers are the "Ariadni" line by Lutron, and they work great and they last. The dimmer setting doesn't necessarily change when you flip the toggle on / off. They're solid-state so they don't waste 10% of the current generating heat inside the box (as the old rotary rheostats do).
I was a carpenter and contractor for 40+ years and learned a lot from some very skilled electricians. They all insisted that screw slots be aligned vertically, noting (as Tonypete and Bers among others above did) that such attention to detail was likely to be found inside the box and elsewhere. I insisted thay my painters and wallpaper guy do the same when replacing cover plates. Also would casually point this out to clients and potential clients, and every last one has said they think of me and my attention to detail whenever they see screws not done properly, even decades later. That's marketing at its best...
Posted by: Cowboyneal - the Other Jewish Carpenter at December 07, 2025 03:39 PM (MRSZC)
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Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.
*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks*
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a)
I just ate the leftovers from last evening's slow-cooker chili. It was fine. Going to do a beef stew in the slow cooker now. Cut up a slab of beef shank, brown in skillet, put in slow cooker with beef broth, some shiitake mushrooms, baby red potatoes, and cut-up rutabaga. Maybe a cut-up 'mater, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:41 PM (npFr7)
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You DO know what that worn switch plate means, yes … ? Yes? It means it's: TIME FOR A NEW HOUSE.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:42 PM (ayRl+)
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Hey, that’s confusing: foot-pounds can be a unit of work if a scalar, and a unit of torque if a vector. But there’s to easy way to show scalar versus vector in common speech or writing!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:42 PM (jMluN)
Try setting up keybindings for a dual-stick setup -- for the first time.
Posted by: mrp at December 07, 2025 03:45 PM (rj6Yv)
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Are they all screwed in to 15 ft/lbs? Why not?
ft-lbs not ft/lbs:
foot-pound
noun
ˈfu̇t-ˈpau̇nd
plural foot-pounds
: a unit of work equal to the work done by a force of one pound acting through a distance of one foot in the direction of the force.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:36 PM (jMluN)
And it's probably 15 inch-pounds. Not foot pounds.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:46 PM (npFr7)
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@ 157 Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.
*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks*
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a) _____________________________________________________
'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)
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Weird PC phrase of the week - Underresourced Communities.
I never heard this phrase before this week, but now i've heard it in 3 different settings. Like "undocumented immigrant," it's factually incorrect. These communities have all sorts of resources poured into them. Between graft, poor government plans, and irresponsible lifestyle choices of residents, the communities keep failing, but it's not from lack of resources.
Posted by: Wally at December 07, 2025 03:50 PM (R+nQW)
165 163 @ 157 Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.
*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks*
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a)
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'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)
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Bulging is not OK. Discard.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 03:51 PM (azNOR)
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Bulging is not OK. Discard.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 03:51 PM (azNOR)
Bulging cans ought to blow up real good when used as targets at the "range".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:53 PM (npFr7)
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49 CBD, you need to update those switches. They have made new ones with better controls.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (A0sqA)
But they still work! (presumably)
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 03:55 PM (RuTUS)
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You know, I vaguely remember there being switch plate screws, the heads of which were little rosettes. You simply screwed them in finger-tight.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:55 PM (npFr7)
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'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)
Absolutely not! Bulging cans are almost always a sighn of contamination with anaerobic, gas-producing bacteria, and they do not play well with the human body.
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Technically torque is pseudovector: it doesn’t have the same properties as a vector upon reflection as a vector. Because it’s a tensor mapped into a vector: a feat you can only get away with in three dimensions.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:56 PM (jMluN)
The Paolo hears this, how you say, many time from the ladies...
Posted by: The Paolo at December 07, 2025 04:01 PM (PiwSw)
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@ 169 'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)
Absolutely not! Bulging cans are almost always a sighn of contamination with anaerobic, gas-producing bacteria, and they do not play well with the human body.
Throw. It. Out. ____________________________________________
Right. The 'bulging' is caused by bacterial farts. That's all part of Nature's 'grand design' … now let's all gather in a circle and sing that wonderful old John Lennon tune, 'Give Pizza Chants!' … we'll get back to the 'Battle of the Bulge' in just a bit — but first, a word from our sponson …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 04:02 PM (ayRl+)
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Ha-ha! I'd take them all out and replace them with square drive.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 04:07 PM (w6S0H)
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Are they all screwed in to 15 ft/lbs? Why not?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (tgvbd)
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I used to work with a technician who had a scholarship offer to play defensive tackle for Texas A&M. He was 6'2" and about 280 pounds and could he tighten a screw, so much so that no one else could untighten it. Very quickly, after the lead tech, who had served in the Marines and was no weakling being about 6'4" and I'd guess 240 pounds, couldn't untightend the screws and so a torque screwdriver with interchangeable heads was bought for the 280 pound tech with his name scribed on it and noone was allowed to ever use this set - that rule was strictly enforced.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2025 04:07 PM (3C1oN)
A Muslim crowd surrounds St. Martin's Cathedral in Utrecht, Netherlands, shouting "Allah Akbar". Imagine what would have happened if Christians had done the same outside of a mosque.
X video: https://bit.ly/4pOdOgi
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 04:11 PM (P5BPp)
A Muslim crowd surrounds St. Martin's Cathedral in Utrecht, Netherlands, shouting "Allah Akbar". Imagine what would have happened if Christians had done the same outside of a mosque.
X video: https://bit.ly/4pOdOgi
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 04:11 PM (P5BPp)
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I spent some time typing and deleting. All I'll have to say about this is that it is just sickening to have those dirtbags living in our countries.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2025 04:17 PM (3C1oN)
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See? If we were using Newton-meters we wouldn't have this discussion.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2025 04:20 PM (XeU6L)
180 A prayer for all those who were at Pearl on that momentous day. Little did the Japanese realize what they unleashed that day.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 07, 2025 04:25 PM (vFbHf)
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Home Depot sells the screws in various colors. As a landlord, I have them in all colors and a selection of oversized wall plates in all colors, along with toilet flappers, with me all the time.
In my properties, the slots are all vertical. Most especially in my house.
Posted by: asdf at December 07, 2025 04:57 PM (75cud)
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34 We have Decora wall plates, I think horizontal screw slots look better with them.
Posted by: Next2Nothing
You can't hide money, I suppose. I'm just a poor church mouse.
Posted by: Very Fixed Income at December 07, 2025 05:03 PM (oftw2)
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Ah motion sensor lights. I think my work had those at one time. Now we have lights that do NOT turn off. This is a workplace that installed solar panels and heat pumps a few years ago to 'save the planet from global warming'. But if individuals were bothered by having the lights on all the time they could request to have the florescent bulbs removed and bring in their own lamps. I'm a light switch flipper but I didn't buy a lamp to fix their malfunction, plus man-made GW, or CC is a hoax anyway. But seriously, still florescents, not LED, and the lights won't even turn off, tell me again workplace how you sincerely believe a large CO2 footprint is a bad thing.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 07, 2025 05:33 PM (/jn/s)
The United Kingdom's Existential Crisis
[Hyde Park, December 2025]
I spent a pleasant Friday evening at a restaurant in Canary Wharf, in the Docklands of London. Yes, those famous docks that were Hitler's particular target. The area has been built up into a financial center that has become quite an impressive place. It's far from the center of London, but the recent opening of another underground line has been a game changer for the area. In addition to the many banks and financial services companies that call it home, there are dozens of restaurants and shops and markets that serve the increasing numbers of people who not only work there, but live in the apartment buildings springing up everywhere.
But back to dinner! Next to us sat three 20-something men, busily drinking their lagers and flirting with women on their phones (but not in person). We struck up a conversation with them, and I was struck by how pessimistic they were about their future prospects. These gentlemen despaired of meeting and marrying and building a middle class existence. Even the one who was in the trades (an electrician) wasn't optimistic about what would be the normal progression in America: Learn, work, strike out on your own and build a small company.
One in particular complained about how England is changing into a place that doesn't seem like it welcomes him. Yet when I asked for whom he voted in the last election, his answer was: Labor!
All three were interested in America, and in fact two had visited, albeit briefly. But they were also woefully ignorant of the differences between the two countries. I had to explain the 1st Amendment! Their opinions about President Trump were partly typical...driven by the incessant drumbeat of leftist media in the UK, but they were not as reflexively critical as I had expected.
What I took away from the conversation was that they saw their future prospects as dismal, and that there was no reasonable alternative available to them on the horizon. They saw no Donald Trump or Charlie Kirk who could speak to them about a better way. They saw the country in which they have lived their entire lives being subsumed by a Woke (their word) insanity that denigrated everything they felt was important. And they saw an economic system that was stacked against them, without any way to change it.
Is it any wonder that the UK is rapidly sliding into both irrelevancy and authoritarian control? Is it any wonder that Islam is on the march? After all, they have a plan. They have an alternative. They have a vision of the future. That their vision is evil and destructive means very little to its adherents, because they will reap the benefits of that destruction.
Is this Weimar Germany in the 21st century? Will a Hitler arise in the UK and show these young men a different path? Or will they gradually be gobbled up by encroaching Islam, and forced into dhimmitude, or worse? Will Tommy Robinson, or someone like him be able to galvanize public support for a push against the destruction of what once was the shining beacon of freedom in the world? Will Nigel Farage be able to fight the structural and political impediments to a Reform Party win in the next elections almost four years from now? Will the UK crash so quickly that the Labor Party has to call an election before that?
I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 07, 2025 12:01 PM (tljrc)
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When Islam fully takes over, it will be a different kind of great...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 12:02 PM (ynpvh)
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That picture has me instinctively reaching for the spare grocery bags under the sink.
Posted by: pookysgirl, not even a neat freak at December 07, 2025 12:06 PM (Wt5PA)
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I suspect one could have similar conversations in any major blue city in America.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:06 PM (2WIwB)
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I take it one can find Winston Marshall guest on his podcast Britain will disappear in Hyde Park
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:07 PM (Ia/+0)
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Britain is rapidly becoming a bundle of dry straw, just waiting for a match. It could be anything, since every system they have is failing.
But weighing against that is the observation that the people there are now just sheep, incapable of any action other than to groan and bleat in their way to the slaughterhouse.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (c7Ygk)
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Thanks CBD. Britain will not be great again in my lifetime. In 100 years or more, who knows? But honestly they haven’t been great since the WWII era… maybe a tiny renaissance under Thatcher in the 80s… but during the Cold War they always needed our military because they poured so much money into their national health service they couldn’t afford to properly fund the royal navy which I understand is a bit of a joke these days… the next that won At Trafalgar and Jutland and ruled the seas for centuries is a shell
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (+kWhq)
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Diogenes especially if 3x 20 somethings were found in a urban Leftist hole
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (Ia/+0)
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Short of American style revolution and a heavy side dish of ethnic cleansing, the UK is done.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 12:09 PM (snZF9)
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Londoners have a first hand view of the terror of Islam, as CBD's friends seem to have noted. Their billionaires might start backing the Farage types, as they see their society slip sliding away.
Do those billionaires really plan to live their lives out in a Chalet in the Alps, or a Mediterranean seaside estate? And even there, would they really remain untouchable by Islam?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 12:09 PM (vbXSk)
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I was stationed in the UK in the early '90's. You never saw this. There wasn't so much as cigarette butts on the ground.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 07, 2025 12:09 PM (LjSYW)
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You sound pessimistic, CBD.
My lineage is almost completely Irish, English and Scottish, back to the Norman invasion, plus a kraut or two who snuck in.
There’s a village in the East Midlands with my surname on it. I wanted to visit there.
Now, nope.
I’m an American and I’ll fight for my heritage here.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (3Aazl)
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UK is 6% Muslim
They tend to be socially very conservative
Anti gay
Anti abortion
Anti alcohol
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith... the anal behind anal sex at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (9k4Yy)
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If they had Walmart they could get Great Value.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:11 PM (pkeXY)
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5 I suspect one could have similar conversations in any major blue city in America.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:06 PM (2WIwB)
But there is still an escape path open in America, as attested to by the thousands who are relocating weekly to Florida, Texas, and other similar locales. For major Blue cities there is no hope, because all of their competent people are leaving.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:11 PM (c7Ygk)
17Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (9k4Yy)
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UK is 6% Muslim
They tend to be socially very conservative
Anti gay
Anti abortion
Anti alcohol.
And vote like kooks. Their job is to help destroy society to usher in sharia.
Try to keep up, dickbag.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 07, 2025 12:15 PM (LjSYW)
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I was in se England 78 -80, would have if had to guess more like Camp of the Saints with so many Indian and Pakistani there.
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:15 PM (Ia/+0)
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I don’t understand British politics but how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long? I highly doubt Starmer is popular in any way but somehow the elites manipulate the system and stay in power… doesn’t sound like representative government to me. The parliamentary system stinks quite frankly
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (+kWhq)
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (3Aazl)
I am. London is one of my favorite cities in the world. It was a great place, and one of the repositories of Western culture, in particular the culture that helped spawn America.
But too much of it is unrecognizable.
Unless they awaken from their slumber, they will fall.
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But there is still an escape path open in America, as attested to by the thousands who are relocating weekly to Florida, Texas, and other similar locales. For major Blue cities there is no hope, because all of their competent people are leaving.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:11 PM (c7Ygk)
Agreed. In England it is a national crisis and they have precious few places to go. Here it is regional. One is a tank of gas away from liberty.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (2WIwB)
23 And even there, would they really remain untouchable by Islam?
Posted by: illiniwek
I would expect the muzzies would see that as an afront to ttheir superiority, then go after them and destroy them root and stem.
And I won't lift a finger to stop it when it happens.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (QVmho)
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Bible Study Corner. King Solomon describes why they and we are f*cked.
https://is.gd/Oy8egx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (L/fGl)
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Britain, Germany, Ireland, Sweden, etc.
All are on a trajectory that bodes poorly for the native populations.
The Marxists and the Muzzies will fight to gain control, until such time as they turn against each other for ultimate power.
My guess is the Muzzies win because demographically they are on a track to increase their population at a far greater rate over the next couple decades.
At which point, the cradle of Western Civilization, the Reformation, the Enlightenment, the Renaissance and the Industrial Revolution will fall into an Age of Darkness from which it will never recover.
Hopefully, America will watch and learn from their demise.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (MNCvZ)
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how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (+kWhq)
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“but during the Cold War they always needed our military because they poured so much money into their national health service they couldn’t afford to properly fund the royal navy which I understand is a bit of a joke these days… “
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (+kWhq)
The entire UK military has been allowed to decay into virtual non existence. Early this year Starmer was talking about putting together an expeditionary force if 25,000 men to go help Ukraine. His top military men coughed politely and told him “um, tone that talk down. We might could find 5,000 available if you give us 6 months to work on it.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (c7Ygk)
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I spent 2 months working in Reading in the late 90s. I would go into London pretty much every weekend and man it was such a vibrant fun city.
This was right as Tony Blair was getting started on destroying his country. I went back in 2005 for a week. And something seemed off. London was still fun but there was an air about it that something just wasn’t right. Then I went back in 2015 and Ho Lee Fuk it was a different universe than what I remembered. It wasn’t London anymore.
In one generation they destroyed it all.
I can only imagine what another 10 years has done to the place.
RIP UK
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (SQJLY)
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Unless they awaken from their slumber, they will fall.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (n9ltV)
THEY WILL FALL.
Succinct, to the point, and accurate.
And sends a chill up one's spine.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:18 PM (2WIwB)
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Is it any wonder that Islam is on the march? After all, they have a plan. They have an alternative. They have a vision of the future. That their vision is evil and destructive means very little to its adherents, because they will reap the benefits of that destruction.
_________________
The exact can be said America's "Democratic Socialists.'
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 07, 2025 12:18 PM (f0sNM)
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They won a majority in 2024.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (n9ltV)
I didn’t know that… I thought they cobbled together a parliamentary majority by banding together with a bunch of other leftist parties but that the reform party of Farage got more votes than Labour…. Not the first time I’ve been wrong!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:20 PM (OW907)
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I would no longer step foot in the UK - and most of the EU, for that matter.
Mrs. BD and I both have relatives there and we don't understand what they're waiting for.
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20 I don’t understand British politics but how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long?
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They won a yuuuuge majority last year. 400+ seats out of 650.
But percentage wise they only won 33% of the vote.
Parliamentary elections are wack in this aspect.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:21 PM (SQJLY)
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It's not just the UK, unfortunately. It's almost the entire western world.
I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful. Now more than ever we are the exception not the rule.
Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (viF8m)
Europe’s embattled liberal-globalist elites erupted in fury this week after the Trump administration released its bold new National Security Strategy, which rightfully called out the EU’s anti-European positions, bureaucratic nightmare, and its diminishing geopolitical influence.
Valérie Hayer, head of the EU Parliament’s globalist Renew group, exploded in response, calling the U.S. analysis “unacceptable and dangerous.” She even went so far as to brazenly label the Trump administration “an enemy of Europe,” arrogantly claiming Washington has no business questioning the EU’s failed progressive agenda and increasingly authoritarian policies.
Liberal activist Gerald Knaus from a pro-immigration think tank went even further, hysterically declaring the U.S. a “direct threat to European democracy and peace.” He absurdly accused Washington of plotting to break up the EU and NATO, revealing the paranoia of an elite class clinging to power.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (6U1c2)
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I've never been to Europe, even in my military days (USMC 69-76, you were going elsewhere). I have wanted to go, and now the only country I would like to visit might be Poland, or maybe Dad's birthplace, Finland, now that they are starting to get their act together. Fuck it, Vegas is warmer.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (gm9Sb)
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Oligarchs the world over don’t view countries as countries anymore. They’re just places to make money for them. Import 10M foreigners into the UK? If it lowers out production costs by 1%, totally worth it bro. So want if a 1000 year civilization is eradicated?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (SQJLY)
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Sitting in front of the PC in my Helly Hansens (insulated coveralls), enjoying a last mug of coffee before venturing out to run the snowblower. Maybe 2,3 degrees F, but ZERO wind, and some sunshine. After that, round up the batteries from pickup, tractor, lawn mower and golf cart, and get them into warm shop, and on charge.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:27 PM (npFr7)
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All symptoms of the extended Judgement Day the planet is experiencing. It's no wonder people are going off the rails. Much Biblical evidence points to 2033 as being the end of all things visible.
Posted by: Deck Chairs, Titanic at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (oftw2)
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Europe has a socialist mindset , even the 'conservative' Europeans so they will continue the down slide until they start warring with each other over the scraps that socialism leaves.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (KDPiq)
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> I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.
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Presuming in our lifetime it was ever, really, great. In mine it was mostly meh. That goes for a lot of Europe. It's heyday was almost a century ago. If not centuries ago.
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (NwnyJ)
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I take it parliamentary seats/districts are never reapportioned?
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (W7XSX)
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Maybe 2,3 degrees F, but ZERO wind, and some sunshine.
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That’s my definition of a prefect winter day.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (SQJLY)
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I mean George Orwell remained a Socialist even when he recognized where that train always arrives.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:29 PM (KDPiq)
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England’s situation looks hopeless because they have 4 existential crises going on simultaneously, and each one reinforces the other.
1) A Government that now is only supported by 12% of the population, and yet which may remain in power in 2029. In response to criticism this government gets more fascist by the day; their latest proposal is to save costs by doing away with jury trials, and allow the accused to be sentenced to whether the Government appointed official feels like giving.
2) industry and the economy are collapsing; an insane obsession with NetZero by Ed Milliband is causing English electricity prices to skyrocket to being the highest in Europe; as a result England is deindustrializing and working class jobs are disappearing forever. As industry vanishes, the economy gets weaker and weaker. (Cont’d)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:30 PM (c7Ygk)
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No. A perfect Winter day is 78 degrees in Palm Springs.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:30 PM (W7XSX)
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I take it parliamentary seats/districts are never reapportioned?
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (W7XSX)
They are just like congressional districts are here.
Up until recently the number of seats would fluctuate as well. It was set at 650 as a permanent number only about 20 years ago.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:30 PM (SQJLY)
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AOP is basking in zero wind and sunshine, having sent the dreaded clippers our way.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (gm9Sb)
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Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (gm9Sb)
Croatia is where I would like to go if I ever visited Europe.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (W7XSX)
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I like 4 seasons. 70 and sunny every day gets boring.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:32 PM (SQJLY)
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After Trump (and Vance, fingers crossed) we're fucked too. Even with something of a reprieve, we're watching the caliphate grow within America like a cancer and state/local authorities all across the country continuing their anarchotyranny. And when those locations become intolerable, critical masses of their populations will move to the last redoubts of sanity in the country, then proceed to destroy them in the exact same way.
Posted by: Get ready, we'll hit the bottom of the slide soon enough at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (TbWk/)
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There were two things that allowed Hitler to rise...
1) The left letting its freak flag hang out
2) The right choosing to not try and stop the left because it would have caused issues personally for the right's leaders.
But, TBH, Britain doesn't look like Germany in the late 20s. It looks like any other conquered and colonized country.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (sKqQm)
55 Europe has a socialist mindset , even the 'conservative' Europeans so they will continue the down slide until they start warring with each other over the scraps that socialism leaves.
Posted by: the way I see it
I would like to add that the U.S. should offer no quarter. No refugees. No support to the former western europe shits. They brought this onto themselves, and can either grow a pair and rise up fighting, or die whimpering in the corner like the gimp litte asshole bois they all are. We've lost two generation on that continent already. They can live with what they've sown with out us bailing them out again.
Especially aggressive against the globo-homo elite that brought this about.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (QVmho)
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Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (viF8m)
I was thinking of the best way to say this. You just did, JS.
Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (An79C)
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I tend to disagree.
Yes, it is easy to be pessimistic about the prospects of England surviving it's current existential crisis given no change of direction.
That being said, there are several in the UK (Tommy, Nigel, et al) who can step up to the plate, rousing true Englishmen to once again become that 'band of brothers' able to do whatever is necessary to take their country back. And I am sure there are others waiting in the wings of whom we have yet to hear.
That extraordinary times birth extraordinary people is absolutely true. We in America are experiencing this in real time with the advent of Donald Trump on our political scene and all it implies for our country.
I believe the same will be true of England and that great nation will not go quietly into the night.
It will, once again, become the roaring lion and devour it's enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Rule, Britannia!
Posted by: BrianinTn at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (AWMGl)
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We, as in the countries of the West, may have to fall back on the FDR precedent of grossly violating the civil rights of a group of citizens (the Japanese-Americans) who were thought (wrongly thought, in FDR's case) to represent a threat to the rest of the country, in dealing with the Muslims in our countries.
I would hate to do this, but if survival is at stake, then the notion that the Constitution-Isn't-A-Suicide-Pact comes into play.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (3C1oN)
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Croatia is where I would like to go if I ever visited Europe.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (KDPiq)
Italy, any of the Balkans, save for the muzzie areas, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland , Romania, maybe Bulgaria.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:34 PM (npFr7)
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It's 66 right now with a high of 70 later today. No real wind to speak and no rain in forecast though it is a bit overcast . I'll take this as a winter day all season.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:34 PM (KDPiq)
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'My guess is the Muzzies win because demographically they are on a track to increase their population at a far greater rate over the next couple decades....
Hopefully, America will watch and learn from their demise.'
Hopefully they learn that Muzzie demographics in the Western Hemisphere needs to be decreased dramatically.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:34 PM (fd80v)
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50 You wouldn't have to go far. There's a Croatian neighborhood in Cleveland. Still has a Croatian language newspaper, all kinds of shops, but everybody is just Clevelandish.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:35 PM (gm9Sb)
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>>Croatia is where I would like to go if I ever visited Europe.
That's where my ex's family is originally from. Beautiful place. They left when the communists came back. Again.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:37 PM (viF8m)
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With a couple of exceptions every Western European I’ve known in the US, including Brits, has been a leftist. Their default setting is big government good, guns bad, religion dangerous. Even down to the stereotypical hatred of pickups cuz they kill the erf.
It’s like a Euro NPC. Complete with regular updates to be outraged about the current thing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:37 PM (SQJLY)
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Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:35 PM (gm9Sb)
Too bad Cleveland doesn't have that beautiful Mediterranean coastline.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:38 PM (KDPiq)
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Oh and another thing, while the NAZIs blamed the Jews, their real problem was with France and Britain. But...those French and British people were in another country.
I suspect the history of the late 20s/early 30s would have looked very different if after their loss in WWI the French/British had enforced immigration of millions of their citizens into Germany and had re-built the German political system to be one that represented those new British/French "citizens" instead of Germans.
There wouldn't have been a Hitler.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:38 PM (sKqQm)
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more existential crises for England: 3) Immigration. They have talked about doing something, but never do. (Labour sees them as voters, sounds familiar?). As the economy continues to sink, this becomes cement overshoes for the nation, as there are now millions of jobless immigrants willing to riot unless they are paid off. And 4) the Military , which for practical purposes doesn’t exist any more. Literally, there are now more Admirals than Capital Ships (only 27 such ships left)
Any of these crises are a challenge to the life of a nation; to face all 4 simultaneously appears insurmountable.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:39 PM (c7Ygk)
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'I thought they cobbled together a parliamentary majority by banding together with a bunch of other leftist parties but that the reform party of Farage got more votes than Labour'
Labour won a huge number of the seats in Parliament. But they won each of those seats with only plurality. They won a bunch of three way races with Reform and Conservative opposition.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:39 PM (fd80v)
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You go out to the lakefront, and watch the majesty of Lake Erie waves rolling in, along with the often Alberta Clipper that shuts down three counties with ice, snow, and power outages.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:40 PM (gm9Sb)
70It’s like a Euro NPC. Complete with regular updates to be outraged about the current thing.
There is no meaningful free speech in Europe. Yes they can go to American websites but when you are bathed 24-7 in propaganda it sticks.
And the propaganda is THICK. I was in Europe not long ago and on public transit they were running ads discussing how environmentally friendly CHINA was...and how they were better then the dirty Americans and even Europe...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:40 PM (sKqQm)
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When I was in Venice Italy I was sitting next to a young couple from the UK, maybe 30 years old. Very nice couple, the girl was blonde, very cute, the husband was very cool, both had that higher class brit accent. Somehow we started talking about london, and I mentioned how it was going with islam basically taking it over. The girl says "oh no problem, they are lovely people". I knew right there, yup, they're fucked.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 12:40 PM (snZF9)
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:41 PM (Ia/+0)
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Years ago I watched a Q&A session on the BBC with Jimmy Savile, yes that Jimmy Savile and British high schoolers, maybe around 1981-82. All the kids could talk about was racism in England, how the medical everything needed to be funded and free for the poors and oh how awful it was to be free, white and living in England. Jimmy Savile, yes that Jimmy Savile, told them they needed to work hard, look after themselves and their families and be proud of being English. The English Monster Children poopooed him. Reminds me of American Monster Children in college today
Posted by: England Is An Asshole Baby at December 07, 2025 12:41 PM (R/m4+)
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One would think that Britons, and their European brethren would, at some point, realize their demise was coming at the hands of the Muslims they've imported and be shocked into action.
One would think.
But I'd not bet on it.
Same goes for areas here in the US not (yet) overrun with leftists. But I'd not bet on that either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (NwnyJ)
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56 Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (viF8m)
Sadly’ I agree. It’s gotten too bad for anything else.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (c7Ygk)
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If Farage can win a majority next election there may be a sliver of hope. The polls say it’s likely. But the next election is several years away which is a lifetime in politics.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (SQJLY)
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Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:38 PM (sKqQm)
Or if Britain and especially France didn't demand their pound of flesh after the war was over.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:43 PM (KDPiq)
78Any of these crises are a challenge to the life of a nation; to face all 4 simultaneously appears insurmountable.
The invaders are well funded by the British government so they will not go home without a fight. The current government needs those invaders for their votes so they will not let them be sent home without a fight. And the British elites ultimately earn their wealth from those invaders so they also will not let them be sent home without a fight.
In theory normal Brits could rally to threaten their elites/governments more but modern authoritarian regimes like Britain have learned to marginalize/destroy dissidents before they can get much of a movement going.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:43 PM (sKqQm)
79One would think that Britons, and their European brethren would, at some point, realize their demise was coming at the hands of the Muslims they've imported and be shocked into action.
Their FNM tells them the invaders
1) All have a sob story
2) Are all hard working taxpayers keeping the NHS afloat
3) Are law abiding and reasonable and just want the same thing native Brits do
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:44 PM (sKqQm)
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As I pointed out even Britain's smartest have no ability to determine cause and effect like all left leaning peoples.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:44 PM (KDPiq)
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One is a tank of gas away from liberty.
Posted by: Diogenes
In many US cites that better be a very large tank!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 12:46 PM (dRZit)
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Lotus Eaters podcast discusses these issues.
Interesting watch. I’m always shocked that those guys aren’t in prison given the UK’s “hate speech” laws.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:46 PM (SQJLY)
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The British government ain't scared of the native British people because they are disarmed. They sure were concerned about the terrorist armed IRA though weren't they.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (KDPiq)
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Look at the lefts reaction to Somalis stealing billions in Minnesota. We’re the bad guys for noticing. They’re the real victims dontchaknow?
No different than Brits who thinks rape gangs are no biggie because it’s their culture. You’re the bad guy for noticing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (SQJLY)
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>>>But they were also woefully ignorant of the differences between the two countries. I had to explain the 1st Amendment!
I am near tears, on reading that. Sad tears.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (RuTUS)
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Israel has done an exercise assuming that something terrible happens in Europe, and tens of thousands of European Jews all suddenly want to immigrate to Israel at once.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)
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Like far to many Americans, most of Europe has no idea what the Second Amendment is all about. Basic Brit. "Why yes, If I get a permit from the Constable, I can have a rook gun to cut down on the vermin attacking my garden. The permit may take a year if approved". Basic US red state guy or gal. " Let me have one of those, just in case".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (gm9Sb)
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The future belongs to those who show up. Britain in two centuries will be mostly low IQ inbreds who have mixed English Pakistani DNA. It will be tribal and Islamic. It will be miserable. Alea iacta est.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (R86kT)
89 As I pointed out even Britain's smartest have no ability to determine cause and effect like all left leaning peoples.
This is something I personally got to see...
I worked in a small blue shitty in an office park. Most of my cow-workers were leftist LIVs. The old mayor retired who was a standard corruptocrat and a new woke candidate ran. My cow-workers all supported her because she was going to protect the Erf.
One of her initiatives was to make people drive smaller cars by forcing businesses in the city to make half their parking spots sized for compact cars.
She won. My cow-workers celebrated. She passed her rule. The company that owned the office park went ahead and repainted the parking garage. My cow-workers drove big trucks and SUVs mostly and many were fat, so as you can imagine people were constantly banging each other's cars.
My cow-workers were indignant. How dare the office park do this! And no, no amount of showing them their beloved mayor passed the very rule they were complaining about had any effect on them. "Damn that greedy office park company...why...I bet they painted the spots smaller because of corporate greed!"
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (sKqQm)
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>>Sadly’ I agree. It’s gotten too bad for anything else.
I don't think we realize how unbelievably fortunate we are that Trump and Musk came along. We look out on the rest of the world and wonder how they got there and sometimes forget we were on the exact same path a decade ago. An argument can be made we were leading the charge.
I don't see any Trumps or Musks rising in the rest of the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)
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Israel has done an exercise assuming that something terrible happens in Europe, and tens of thousands of European Jews all suddenly want to immigrate to Israel at once.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)
That was my favorite part of World War Z .
The explanation on how Israel was prepared for a zombie apocalypse.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:51 PM (KDPiq)
92I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.
I've been watching The Crown on Netflix (hands over man card unbidden) and it's really interesting to watch as the British come to grips with the fact that they are only a middle-rank power (at best) and that the US and USSR are now the big dogs. Decline is a choice, they say, but I don't really see how it could have worked out any differently. They simply lacked the economy to support a worldwide empire, and successive world wars had bankrupted them, while the former colonies all demanded independence. However, that doesn't mean they can't still play an outsize role in world affairs if they can get their own affairs in order. I just don't think they want to.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 12:51 PM (Riz8t)
93One would think that Britons, and their European brethren would, at some point, realize their demise was coming at the hands of the Muslims they've imported and be shocked into action.
Which is why the British government is eliminating jury trials for any offense carrying a sentence of two years in prison or less.
Be "shocked into action", and you'll face a judge that will be imprisoning patriotic Englishmen on an assembly line.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:51 PM (xTIDn)
94
>>>I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again
Maybe they'll join the EU!
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:52 PM (RuTUS)
95 Way too much publicity is given to those Americans leaving the US because of Trump and going to Europe. Mostly they're deadweight: single, childless AWFLs, retirees, recent humanities grads, artistes.
For every one of them, there's at least one European looking to come here to escape gouging taxes, crushing regulations, invasive bureaucracy and lack of opportunities. We never hear about those people.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 12:52 PM (tgvbd)
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Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)
Our system of government, no matter how much we criticize it, allows people like Musk and Trump to rise up. Europe never has had that . It was always just might makes right or any deviation will be crushed right at the beginning by regulations.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:53 PM (KDPiq)
97
What are all those coffee cups doing up there? Don't they have any trashcans?
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:53 PM (RuTUS)
98 Israel has done an exercise assuming that something terrible happens in Europe, and tens of thousands of European Jews all suddenly want to immigrate to Israel at once.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)
_________
Europe has 85% fewer Jews than in 1933 and 60% fewer than in 1970.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 12:54 PM (tgvbd)
King County, which is basically Seattle, voted for a massive car registration increase to build some public transit boondoggle. IIRC it tripled the amount. And the vote was not even close it was like 70-30 in favor.
As soon as increase went into effect local news had stories of people outraged at how much they had to pay. And they did those “man on the street” interviews of people at the DMV. One guy was like I support public transportation and I voted for this but I had no idea it would be this much of an increase.
I’d bet any sum of money that the next time this come up for a vote (and it surely will for the next boondoggle) this guy will vote for it as will everyone else who complained about car registration being too high the last time.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:56 PM (SQJLY)
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:56 PM (RuTUS)
101
89
'I worked in a small blue shitty in an office park. Most of my cow-workers were leftist LIVs. '
I'm glad I don't work or live there.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (fd80v)
102
Same goes for areas here in the US not (yet) overrun with leftists. But I'd not bet on that either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (NwnyJ)
We still have Trump, and although it’s common on the right to say nothing is happening, in fact huge things are happening. The exposure of the Somali fraud, for one; and the fight with the cartels and Maduro, especially. Most don’t realize this, but this has the possibility of doing as much damage to the Leftist’s funding as taking down USAID did.
Have you not stopped and wondered why the top levels of the Left are so terrified of Trump’s efforts to actually fight the drug war?
See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants if you have any doubts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)
103 50 years ago Dad sent some money to an outfit called "National Federation of Independent Businessmen".
In the next six months his little 16 person shop was picketed by the UAW, audited by the IRS, and subject to unannounced inspection by state OSHA and Treasury departments. Company cars and trucks had to keep a mileage log of every inch covered and the Secretary of State tied them up with licencing suspensions.
Leftists are not just crooks but vindictive and creepy monsters whose game is to provoke people who disagree with them then drive them into submission.
Not taking a knee or bouncing my head on the floor. War.
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (Y8DZL)
104I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful.
Not entirely. Hungary is running tourism ads about being the safest place in Europe statistically because they buck the EU and don't allow Muslims.
Nayib Bukele posted a video on X of El Salvador's largest Western Hemisphere Christmas village. It's really nice, and they don't need anti-Hillary bollards to keep the Muslims out because there aren't any.
I've heard good things about Milei's Argentina as well, although I gather it's not yet as improved as El Salvador.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (QZThv)
105
It will, once again, become the roaring lion and devour it's enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Rule, Britannia!
Posted by: BrianinTn
LMAO!
I wouldn't hold my breath.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (dRZit)
106Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.
One might even say the lights are going out all over Europe and the world. We shall not see them lit again in our lifetime.
I hope you're wrong.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (Riz8t)
107
One of the most obvious cluelessness of the left in the States about cause and effect is the minimum wage. Also rent control.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (KDPiq)
108
This is what replacement theory leads to. The UK is further along than the US, but we're on the same road.
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (ZxPkt)
109 Decline is a choice, they say, but I don't really see how it could have worked out any differently.
____________
Correlli Barnett treated this topic in a series of books. Among other factors (education system, management methods), Britain indulged itself in the pretense of empire, massive nationalization and social welfare spending after WWII instead of seeking to rebuild its outdated and inefficient industrial plant.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (tgvbd)
110
Have you not stopped and wondered why the top levels of the Left are so terrified of Trump’s efforts to actually fight the drug war?
See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants if you have any doubts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)
What letter is that?
Posted by: You haz link? at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (TbWk/)
111I’d bet any sum of money that the next time this come up for a vote (and it surely will for the next boondoggle) this guy will vote for it as will everyone else who complained about car registration being too high the last time.
Yep. If you really drill into it with him he'd say that it was a mistake "for a good cause". And since he voted for the "good people/initiatives" obviously there won't be many future mistakes.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (sKqQm)
112
93
'Be "shocked into action", and you'll face a judge that will be imprisoning patriotic Englishmen on an assembly line.'
Their leftist judges are a nightmare version of our (already terrible) judges. The British really will have to kill them to be free.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (fd80v)
113We still have Trump, and although it’s common on the right to say nothing is happening, in fact huge things are happening.
I saw a stat the other day that Trump 2.0 is running at something like 48 regulations repealed for every 1 added, which is massive. They're doing a lot of things they don't feel the need to pick a fight with the media about.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (QZThv)
114
Naomi Wolf had an interesting post up on X - she normally takes the cheap train going to and from Washington DC, and it now a Third World train - people are blasting music from Bluetooth speakers, putting their feet up on the seats, etc.
For some reason, she decided to take a trip on the much more expensive Acela train, and it was a different world - the train was quiet, people were polite, etc.
One of the problems is that rich people in the West can insulate themselves from the consequences of their political beliefs - at least for a while longer.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (xTIDn)
115
I wake up every morning and get down on my knees that my ancestors had the good sense to leave those God forsaken islands 300 years ago.
Posted by: Mike B at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (4UQhC)
116
The only thing of consequence the Royal Navy has is about a half dozen nuke armed subs. What will happen if they are under Muzzie control?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 01:01 PM (gm9Sb)
117
The left has many reasons to support the continuation of the drug epidemic:
1) They are personally getting wealthy from it since they are the political wing of the cartels
2) They are ok with this removing a non-trivial percent of the lower classes
3) Drug crime is good for terrorizing people in blue shitties to keep them supporting whatever grift/authoritarian measures local Dem government comes up with
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:01 PM (sKqQm)
118The only thing of consequence the Royal Navy has is about a half dozen nuke armed subs. What will happen if they are under Muzzie control?
While they're fairly unreliable, I wouldn't characterize the two QEII carriers as of no consequence, especially if they're finally outfitted with a full complement of F-35s.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
119Naomi Wolf had an interesting post up on X - she normally takes the cheap train going to and from Washington DC, and it now a Third World train - people are blasting music from Bluetooth speakers, putting their feet up on the seats, etc.
For some reason, she decided to take a trip on the much more expensive Acela train, and it was a different world - the train was quiet, people were polite, etc.
Someone needs to put together a group yelling "racist" about that and buy the trash blacks free Acela tickets. Maybe they'd set Jake Tapper on fire.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (QZThv)
120
I don't see any Trumps or Musks rising in the rest of the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)
Interesting things are happening in that perennial backwater, South America. People there are noticing the success Milei and Bukele are having. Chile now has a conservative government, as does Bolivia, as does Honduras. If the Venezuelan anc Columbian governments were to be toppled, the entire continent may become quite friendly to us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (c7Ygk)
121The left has many reasons to support the continuation of the drug epidemic:
4) Many of them are on the drugs. I doubt Adam Schiff's eyes were like that naturally, for instance. And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (QZThv)
122
One of the problems is that rich people in the West can insulate themselves from the consequences of their political beliefs - at least for a while longer.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (xTIDn)
Like in Soylent Green. The rich lived behind high walls with security, raspberry jam, booze and prostitutes assigned to each condo. Not a bad gig.
The poors huddled in stairwells and ate the dead.
Posted by: Furniture at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (R/m4+)
123
It is interesting to see who is crying foul when the "war on drugs" actually hits the national suppliers instead of pulling over curb-stomping middle class citizens because they somehow detected a strong odor of marijuana from 500 feet away in the patrol car with the windows rolled up, or no-knock full battle rattle SWAT raids at 0300 because they found used green tea leaves in a homeowner's trash can.
Posted by: It was mostly a war on Americans until now at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (TbWk/)
124
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)
I don't think the main reason is kick back funding. I think it's just Trump's for it, they're against it.
The older clips of the Dems pushing todo the same thing Trump is doing now supports that theory. I will agree though that there are likely more politicians on the take than ever before but it's not close to a majority.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (KDPiq)
125
I saw a stat the other day that Trump 2.0 is running at something like 48 regulations repealed for every 1 added, which is massive. They're doing a lot of things they don't feel the need to pick a fight with the media about.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (QZThv)
I’m skeptical of this stuff. Like the 1.5 million self deportations. They sound like Obama’s jobs create or saved numbers.
Do they have an actual list of these regulations repealed? I suspect a lot of it may be duplicates. Like one regulation says a fence needs to be a minimum 6 feet tall. And another says a fence shall be no less than 6 feet tall. So they get rid of the second one. But effectively the fence still has to be 6 ft tall.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (SQJLY)
126
Have to go outside to clean up stuff, I don't want to go outside
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (Ia/+0)
Based on the trailer the movie looks better than the book,
which I guess you would expect from a novel written by a screenwriter.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (iJfKG)
128
102
'See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants '
See it where?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (fd80v)
129People there are noticing the success Milei and Bukele are having.
And it's easy to understand why they've succeeded so dramatically.
El Salvador - put the criminals in jail
Argentina - stop strangling the economy with government.
Only a leftist could fail to grasp why these things work.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (Riz8t)
130
While they're fairly unreliable, I wouldn't characterize the two QEII carriers as of no consequence, especially if they're finally outfitted with a full complement of F-35s.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (c7Ygk)
131One of the problems is that rich people in the West can insulate themselves from the consequences of their political beliefs - at least for a while longer.
I watched a video the other day arguing much of what the left does is ultimately in the name of mate suppression - stopping other people from having kids.
Traditionally this is a type of conflict engaged in by women (as opposed to more open violence) so...it would certainly fit as a reason for the upper class left intentionally making life so hard for middle/lower class Americans.
And I am reminded years ago sitting in a town meeting in a blue town I lived in where one upper class, under employed leftist hausfrau announced that of course everyone has time to sort and wash their trash to recycle it*. Well...she does apparently. What about someone working two jobs to pay all the taxes our hausfrau and her friend's have mandated?
*A couple of years later a study found that recycling went into the same landfill as the trash.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (sKqQm)
132
I don't see any Trumps or Musks rising in the rest of the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)
Milei and Buekele might disagree with you.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (SQJLY)
133And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.
Probably Bondo.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (Riz8t)
134
118 Forgot about those. Having a love affair with the F35 now that training is going full blast around here. The Polish pilots seemed to be Sierra Hotel, and the Finns arrive next month. Gosh, the F35s are loud.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (gm9Sb)
135
121 The left has many reasons to support the continuation of the drug epidemic:
4) Many of them are on the drugs. I doubt Adam Schiff's eyes were like that naturally, for instance. And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (QZThv)
China's responsible for a lot of the fentanyl, and a lot of the left's politicians are sucking Chinese dick for campaign money and shady business investments.
Posted by: Don't bite the micropeen that feeds you at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (TbWk/)
136Chile now has a conservative government, as does Bolivia, as does Honduras. If the Venezuelan anc Columbian governments were to be toppled, the entire continent may become quite friendly to us.
And it provides an increasing number of good bug-out spots that are relatively convenient to run to should the Democrats get "our democracy". Plus, big-booty Latinas.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (QZThv)
137I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If John Deere can do it, Boeing can do it.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:07 PM (Riz8t)
138Their leftist judges are a nightmare version of our (already terrible) judges. The British really will have to kill them to be free.
The Ruling Class has a great advantage here - they can try cases in Washington DC, where a jury will never acquit a Republican or convict a Democrat.
Apparently Britain doesn't have an court like that, so they have to formally abolish jury trials.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:08 PM (xTIDn)
139
Is Hungary the only eastern euro country holding the fort on muzzie invaders? How’s Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, Croatia, etc. You never hear much about them. Other than Romanias election being nullified.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:08 PM (SQJLY)
140
What are all those coffee cups doing up there? Don't they have any trashcans?
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:53 PM (RuTUS)
Yes, they do, but their Islamist mayor is too busy criticizing America and Israel to get the trash picked up.
This one is almost comical when you think about it
*All* the research shows that crime is not a one off or "I have to get bread for my kids" thing. It is people starting small and doing worse and worse things as there are no consequences for it.
And then we ran this as a nationwide study. In the 60s and 70s we reduced prison time. And crime exploded. Then in the late 80s/90s we increased prison time and crime went down.
I mean this should be obvious - you can't mug dozens of people if you are in jail for years after you mug the first one - but every study of any sort has backed up this basic though process.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:09 PM (sKqQm)
142Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:08 PM (SQJLY)
143
The UK forgot everything learned in the 1980s.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:09 PM (6KcYW)
144
137 I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell.
Posted by: Tom Servo
If John Deere can do it, Boeing can do it.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:07 PM (Riz8t)
They'll put EA's coders on it and keeping it airborne will require a microtransaction every three minutes.
Posted by: You are about to crash! Deposit another $800k at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (TbWk/)
145
I thought Poland voted out conservatives last year, or maybe 2 years ago? And the new pro-EU govt opened the doors.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (SQJLY)
146
138
'The Ruling Class has a great advantage here - they can try cases in Washington DC, where a jury will never acquit a Republican or convict a Democrat.'
That's an unfair advantage that needs to go away.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (fd80v)
147China's responsible for a lot of the fentanyl, and a lot of the left's politicians are sucking Chinese dick for campaign money and shady business investments.
For how much the FNM talks about divided loyalties when it comes to Jewish pundits/pols it does amaze me that there is no care whatsoever with pols on the dole from Europe or hell China.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (sKqQm)
148And then we ran this as a nationwide study. In the 60s and 70s we reduced prison time. And crime exploded. Then in the late 80s/90s we increased prison time and crime went down.
I tell my daughters this every time they wonder why crime is increasing. I'm an experimentalist, and we've already run the experiment. It was conclusive.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (Riz8t)
149
84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)
150I thought Poland voted out conservatives last year, or maybe 2 years ago? And the new pro-EU govt opened the doors.
Was it the left stole a PM election but then the right won the presidential election or something like that?
I remember headlines about the leftwing Polish government arresting right leaning pols for being right leaning.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:11 PM (sKqQm)
151
84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)
I’ll never forgive the Germans.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:11 PM (SQJLY)
152
I tell my daughters this every time they wonder why crime is increasing. I'm an experimentalist, and we've already run the experiment. It was conclusive.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (Riz8t)
Like, Enlightment empiricism is sooooo five minutes ago!
Posted by: Just old dead white men! Literally shaking! at December 07, 2025 01:13 PM (TbWk/)
153
And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.
Probably Bondo.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (Riz8t)
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Break out the 80-grit sandpaper.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 01:13 PM (0cOaq)
154
>>Our system of government, no matter how much we criticize it, allows people like Musk and Trump to rise up. Europe never has had that . It was always just might makes right or any deviation will be crushed right at the beginning by regulations.
They tried for 10 years to throw Trump in prison and when that failed they tried to kill him. Twice. We are only in this place because Trump turned his head.
The left loved Musk until he bought Twitter. They've been going after him ever since. No doubt we are unique in a lot ways that makes this country what it is but we came within a RCH of going down the same road as the rest of the west and it wasn't just our unique nature that made it possible for us to turn the tide. It was because of a handful of indispensable people as it always is.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:13 PM (viF8m)
155
If the Venezuelan anc Columbian governments were to be toppled, the entire continent may become quite friendly to us.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Communist Brazil just threw the last free President in jail.
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 01:14 PM (Y8DZL)
156
Was it the left stole a PM election but then the right won the presidential election or something like that?
I remember headlines about the leftwing Polish government arresting right leaning pols for being right leaning.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:11 PM (sKqQm)
I’ll be honest and say I didn’t really follow it all that closely. I do remember there was a big election between the pro-EU side and the nationalist side that got some coverage on this side of the pond. The EU side won. And IIRC immigration was the big issue and the EU side wanted more of it. So I assumed if they won that means Muzzies were welcomed in.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:14 PM (SQJLY)
157but we came within a RCH of going down the same road as the rest of the west
Kamala's people were talking about extraditing people to Britain to face charges for violating their speech laws.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:14 PM (sKqQm)
158
84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)
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My Dad was listening to the radio while working on his car.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (0cOaq)
159
If I had the money, I'd like to try an experiment.
In areas with significant Muslim populations, set up daily ad buys for a month at 10 PM. It would show a mosque, and ask "It's 10 PM. Do you know where your goats, slaves, and child brides are?", in Arabic, Somali, then English. The Arabic text would be written on the screen in the TV ads. Radio ads would just have the spoken text.
Would they get run?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (S/Y4j)
160I thought Poland voted out conservatives last year, or maybe 2 years ago? And the new pro-EU govt opened the doors.
The ruling party in Poland would like to have mass immigration, but they realize that they will be voted out of office if they try.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (xTIDn)
161
Venezuela’s former spy chief Hugo Carvajal has penned a damning letter linking Maduro’s regime to a vast effort to undermine the US. I don’t have tinyurl handy atm, but search for Hugo Carvajal Dallas Express. Many other outlets have now picked it up and run it. The gatekeepers of course are trying to figure out how to suppress it, but too late.
It justifies every step Trump has taken, and more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:16 PM (c7Ygk)
162
(Insty)
DAN HANNAN: Not all immigrants are equal.
Minnesota may be the single largest source of funds for the Somali terrorist organization al Shabaab...Minnesotan taxpayers may, in effect, be simultaneously funding several sides in Somalia’s civil war.
This is a reminder that not all cultures are equal. Minnesota‘s political structures were designed for Scandinavians, who are famously industrious, with a high level of social trust that has allowed them to sustain ambitious welfare programs with little abuse...
It turns out that Somalis do not respond to such schemes in the way that Swedes do. Instead of simply over-claiming, as your unambitious American fraudster might, locals set up bogus companies to make fictitious claims running into hundreds of millions of dollars. Some of the money went on cars and holidays, but a chunk found its way to al Qaeda-aligned Islamists in Somalia, where remittances from overseas amount to a larger sum than the state budget.
I tried and tried to tell my MN relatives this but they simply refused to listen.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:17 PM (Riz8t)
163
Have you not stopped and wondered why the top levels of the Left are so terrified of Trump’s efforts to actually fight the drug war?
See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants if you have any doubts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)
I have no doubt a shit-ton of drug money makes its way into political coffers. In 1989, the estimated cartel annual take was $200 Billion. If you assume even 10% goes to payoff, that's a lot of money to spread around DEA, judges, police, and politicians. It is easily double that today.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (2WIwB)
164
For how much the FNM talks about divided loyalties when it comes to Jewish pundits/pols it does amaze me that there is no care whatsoever with pols on the dole from Europe or hell China.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (sKqQm)
Yup. Antisemitism has become cool again, plus it serves as a convenient distraction from the foreign powers who are actually corrupting our politics - which China has been doing since at least Clinton, who sold out to them faster than Kamala going down at a Willie Brown sex party.
Posted by: And Nixon was a fool at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/)
165
They are closely allied with Soros and the Eurotrash establishment. They may be the last to fall, but when they do, they will fall hard.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (c7Ygk)
When El Salvador and Argentina change the world let me know.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (viF8m)
167 What people seem to forget is the warlike nature of islam, once they gain a significant foothold in a European country,
there will be violence and murder until they win or are defeated.
Once they win that country they will attack the countries next door.
Once Europe in total falls next comes the Americas or Asia.
I believe we're (the world) facing a hundred or so years of brutal warfare simply because the Left and WEF have let islam out of it's geographic prison to destroy.
Wheeeeeeee!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (iJfKG)
168
Who watches television at 10 pm?
The hotel lobby? The nursing home? The airport?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (XQo4F)
169'The Ruling Class has a great advantage here - they can try cases in Washington DC, where a jury will never acquit a Republican or convict a Democrat.'
That's an unfair advantage that needs to go away.
The Constitution says that Federal trials have to occur in the State where the act being litigated took place, but that Congress can determine where to try acts that didn't occur in a State.
DC isn't a state.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (xTIDn)
170
I have no doubt a shit-ton of drug money makes its way into political coffers. In 1989, the estimated cartel annual take was $200 Billion. If you assume even 10% goes to payoff, that's a lot of money to spread around DEA, judges, police, and politicians. It is easily double that today.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (2WIwB)
The former CEO of the DEA under Obama was just indicted for setting up a money laundering scheme for the cartels, directly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (c7Ygk)
171
161 Venezuela’s former spy chief Hugo Carvajal has penned a damning letter linking Maduro’s regime to a vast effort to undermine the US. I don’t have tinyurl handy atm, but search for Hugo Carvajal Dallas Express. Many other outlets have now picked it up and run it. The gatekeepers of course are trying to figure out how to suppress it, but too late.
It justifies every step Trump has taken, and more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:16 PM (c7Ygk)
Gotcha. Think I read an article about that recently.
Posted by: Narco states Commies and Muslims oh my! at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (TbWk/)
172
In areas with significant Muslim populations, set up daily ad buys for a month at 10 PM. It would show a mosque, and ask "It's 10 PM. Do you know where your goats, slaves, and child brides are?", in Arabic, Somali, then English. The Arabic text would be written on the screen in the TV ads. Radio ads would just have the spoken text.
Would they get run?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (S/Y4j)
You would be arrested. In the UK especially.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (6KcYW)
173
The Constitution says that Federal trials have to occur in the State where the act being litigated took place, but that Congress can determine where to try acts that didn't occur in a State.
DC isn't a state.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (xTIDn)
NoVa is across the river and as left wing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:21 PM (SQJLY)
Posted by: Austin Friars at December 07, 2025 01:21 PM (03GBw)
177
The former CEO of the DEA under Obama was just indicted for setting up a money laundering scheme for the cartels, directly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (c7Ygk)
Yup.
Got a bit sloppy.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:22 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
181
167
What people seem to forget is the warlike nature of islam, once they gain a significant foothold in a European country,
there will be violence and murder until they win or are defeated.
Once they win that country they will attack the countries next door.
Once Europe in total falls next comes the Americas or Asia.
I believe we're (the world) facing a hundred or so years of brutal warfare simply because the Left and WEF have let islam out of it's geographic prison to destroy.
Wheeeeeeee!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (
Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome - we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us. (H/t, RWP)
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (6KcYW)
182
When El Salvador and Argentina change the world let me know.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (viF8m)
1000 mile journey starts with 1 step and all that.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (SQJLY)
Congress could decide that political trials for acts occurring in DC be tried in rural Wyoming.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (xTIDn)
184An avalanche always starts with just a few pebbles.
Ah, grasshopper...
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (Riz8t)
185
180 Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
I agree.
Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (6KcYW)
186
169
'The Constitution says that Federal trials have to occur in the State where the act being litigated took place, but that Congress can determine where to try acts that didn't occur in a State.'
This doesn't change my opinion. I'm not bound by a rigged system. No one else should be either.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (fd80v)
187
84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)
Dad was on his sub, the Cachalot. Mom was waving at the planes flying over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:25 PM (XQo4F)
189Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
I agree.
Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that
You're both wrong, and ignorant sluts to boot.
Posted by: That abusive guy who always adopts the contrary position at December 07, 2025 01:25 PM (Riz8t)
190I don’t understand British politics but how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM
Yes, the Labour Party won a clear majority in the 2024 UK general election, securing 412 seats in the House of Commons and forming the government under Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
The election on July 4, 2024, ended 14 years of Conservative rule. Labour's 412 seats gave them a majority of 174 over the 326 needed for an absolute majority in the 650-seat Commons (with the remaining seats going to other parties, including 121 for the Conservatives). This was Labour's biggest seat win since 1997, despite their vote share of about 33.7% being the lowest for any majority government in modern UK history. The result stemmed largely from anti-Conservative sentiment amid economic issues and party infighting, with turnout at 60% — the second-lowest since 1885.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:26 PM (P5BPp)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:27 PM (fd80v)
193Congress could decide that political trials for acts occurring in DC be tried in rural Wyoming.
West Virginia is (relatively) right there.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:28 PM (QZThv)
194
H.L Mencken said that English cooking was only one step removed from cannibalism. I assume the cuisine, at least, has improved since those days.
Posted by: Paco at December 07, 2025 01:28 PM (mADJX)
195 76 If Farage can win a majority next election there may be a sliver of hope. The polls say it’s likely. But the next election is several years away which is a lifetime in politics.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (SQJLY)
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Farage and the Reform Party are not willing to do what's required to fix Britain. They just don't have it in them.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 01:28 PM (VWtfl)
Historical oddity - the reporter who broke the story that Pearl Harbor was being bombed was in Chicago. He was at a police station on a slow Sunday, the desk sergeant had a ham radio, and they heard a ham radio operator describing the bombing, and you could hear the explosions in the background.
One of the stranger achievements of the famed City News Bureau of Chicago.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:29 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (FhXTo)
199
>>The former CEO of the DEA under Obama was just indicted for setting up a money laundering scheme for the cartels, directly
Afghanistan has a lot of nothing other than poppy plants. Oddly, the Golden Triangle was also a hot spot for the CIA during the Vietnam war.
Funny how wherever the CIA gets involved drug trafficking is in the mix.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (viF8m)
200
20 The parliamentary system stinks quite frankly
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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National party lists control who gets into Parliament on because voters have to vote for those party reps on the list. Thus you have the Uniparty of Tories and Labour with minor influence from the Liberal Democrats having an iron clad grip on politicians with ambitions.
Cabinet's joint responsibility further weakens the outsider, disruptor, etc. because such people are not tolerated long in a ministerial role as not being loyal to the party and the PM. The House of Lords, unlike the US, serves on a ceremonial presence as does the King and/or Queen. So party apparatchiks have run the UK since at least Queen Victoria's age, and somewhat before even that. Most of Euroland duplicates this wretched system in some cases made even worse by Proportional Representation so you end up with no one in charge so everyone can avoid blame for bad committee decisions.
Aristotle's tyranny of the oligarchy (aristocrats/nobility in his age--pols/wealthy/celebritards in this one) which usually degrades into despotism (rule by one) or anarchy aka pure democracy then despotism.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (WDjG6)
201
" I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell."
Posted by: Tom Servo
Rumor is that China also has "kill switches" that would disable many US products, just by sending a signal. Ham radios for example ...
Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (vbXSk)
202
Wasn't someone interesting running for Minneapolis Governor?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VPtfc)
203
Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
I agree.
Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that
You're both wrong, and ignorant sluts to boot.
Posted by: That abusive guy
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Tut, tut...
Posted by: That guy who recalls the lecture that we received from Ace re: collegiality at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (VPtfc)
205
LIBs. Demand that the Department of War, now, sponsor and Defend our Adversaries because it threaten the supply-chain of laundered drug money that sustains their candidates, campaigns, and policies.
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-AmericaHazProblem
Jaimie Dimon complains about Europe having a problem.
Indeed. Look who's talkin', he's America's problem skating away scot-free from Epstein's JeffMas-Tree mess arriving SOON!
Jamie Dimon: Our Investments for National Security
JPMorganChase plans a 10-year, $1.5 trillion initiative to shore up America’s resiliency, the last refuge of the Epstein-profiteer/Scoundrel, who not only enabled the Desperate and Deliberately Guilty, but made 300% profit off of it.
OFF COURSE he's willing *now* to give some of it back... Justice is Cash-Flow. Making Fentanyl Great Again!
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (hODP+)
206
Wasn't someone interesting running for Minneapolis Governor?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VPtfc)
*shifty eyes*
Ppppsssstttt...
Hey...wanna buy a pillow?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (2WIwB)
207
And they saw an economic system that was stacked against them, without any way to change it."
So, feudalism. It's human nature...
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:35 PM (XuXeR)
208 Will the UK crash so quickly that the Labor Party has to call an election before that?
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Labour has - what? - 400 seats in this Parliament. An enormous majority over all other parties. Unless there's a major rebellion within Labour, the chances of an election before 2029 are less than zero.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:35 PM (tgvbd)
209
202 Wasn't someone interesting running for Minneapolis Governor?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VPtfc)
The Republicans have realized that there’s a chance for a really strong GOP candidate to win this time.
So they’re running Mike Lindell.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:36 PM (c7Ygk)
210
George Washington was once faced with mutiny. The men reasoned they were not getting paid, and the war was dragging on under tough conditions. So Washington sent a contingent of soldiers from his headquarters to confront the mutineers. They identified the mutinous leader, stood him up, and had the rest of the mutineers shoot him whilst the headquarters contingent pointed their muskets at them.
War is hell, and few have the stomach for it, especially over the long term. Change, before you get to that point is by comparison easy.
Use the auspices of government, and especially the rights you’ve been granted to invoke the necessary change that avoids conflict. Get off your ass, put down the phone, put off every other priority, get involved and vote.
Change doesn’t come from just the other guy, it comes from you. And if you value liberty and a pleasant future for your family, you will heed tha advice.
Posted by: Marcus t at December 07, 2025 01:37 PM (IfQzb)
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:38 PM (XuXeR)
212
Farage and the Reform Party are not willing to do what's required to fix Britain. They just don't have it in them.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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Not sure that most of our current political types in the West have it in them as leaders that climb the greasy pole of electoral politics are seldom the smiting tyrants often needed to reboot the system.
What do you do when at least 40-50 percent of the country do not agree on key matters to reform--at that point electoral politics breaks down because society cannot agree upon the radical solutions needed. Late Soviet Union was that way--it failed from internal collapse and Yeltsin's drunken antics as leader led directly to Putin to sort out the oligarchs, public, etc.
Sometimes being soundly defeated in a war leads to the entire leadership structure being decapitated (see Israel v. Babylon) and being replaced by governance of other nations from far away.
We and the West are not exempt from history's march no matter what idiocy Fukiyama published.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:38 PM (WDjG6)
213
We and the West are not exempt from history's march no matter what idiocy Fukiyama published."
Very well said.
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:39 PM (XuXeR)
214 They identified the mutinous leader, stood him up, and had the rest of the mutineers shoot him whilst the headquarters contingent pointed their muskets at them.
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Discipline is preserved, sir!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:39 PM (tgvbd)
215
Labour has - what? - 400 seats in this Parliament. An enormous majority over all other parties. Unless there's a major rebellion within Labour, the chances of an election before 2029 are less than zero.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
In a national party system, retaliation is harsh on defectors. Far more likely Starmer is canned and done in by one of his political rivals in Labour.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:39 PM (WDjG6)
216
They killed off most of their warriors in WWI. WWII got the ones left. We've lost a number of our warriors in pointless little wars.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2025 01:40 PM (+mUZM)
217
Laddie, you're right about the formerly 'Great' Britain ever having that descriptor place before its name again … The Second Moorish Invasion has been the success the first one wasn't.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 01:40 PM (ayRl+)
218
Funny how wherever the CIA gets involved drug trafficking is in the mix.
Posted by: JackStraw
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To quote Cyndi Lauper, sage, "Money changes everything."
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:41 PM (WDjG6)
219
Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)
I agree.
Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that
You're both wrong, and ignorant sluts to boot.
Posted by: That abusive guy
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Tut, tut...
Posted by: That guy who recalls the lecture that we received from Ace re: collegiality at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (XeU6L)
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And so it begins.
Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at December 07, 2025 01:42 PM (0cOaq)
220
For the longest time it seemed Canada would bounce the liberals. And then they didn’t.
Brits say they want labour out but do the really?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:43 PM (SQJLY)
221
The Second Moorish Invasion has been the success the first one wasn't."
A vigorous, outward looking ideology will always overcome the navel gazing, self absorbed, and unmotivated...
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:44 PM (XuXeR)
222 116 The only thing of consequence the Royal Navy has is about a half dozen nuke armed subs. What will happen if they are under Muzzie control?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 01:01 PM (gm9Sb)
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I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarines.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (VWtfl)
Most people have not idea how brutal and unforgiving war is. They have almost no appreciation for it, yet many of those same people drag us towards it.
Von Clausewitz wasn’t explicit enough. war isn’t just the continuation of politics by other means. That means is to murder as many of the other guy as brutally and mercilessly as you can until he surrenders.
Posted by: Marcus t at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (IfQzb)
224
Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome - we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us. (H/t, RWP)
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Yep. Good point.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (WDjG6)
The CIA is a largely self-funding criminal organization. The good it does is incidental to the amount of damage it does on purpose.
They seem to believe they are uniquely charged with running the world regardless of the will of the people they supposedly serve.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:46 PM (viF8m)
226 They killed off most of their warriors in WWI. WWII got the ones left. We've lost a number of our warriors in pointless little wars.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2025 01:40 PM (+mUZM)
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That keeps getting repeated, but I've never believed it. Germany and Russia also had huge numbers killed in WWII but both rebuilt themselves. Britain didn't want to make the hard decisions after the war to reform its economy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:46 PM (tgvbd)
227
I have no doubt the Labour Party Propaganda Ministry has complete sway over t he narrative just as here the Democrats/ Marxists Propaganda Ministry does
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 01:47 PM (Ia/+0)
228
220 For the longest time it seemed Canada would bounce the liberals. And then they didn’t.
Brits say they want labour out but do the really?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
To do what must be done requires a strong stomach--to sink the boats, to end the 'free' healthcare complex, to end the free 'bennies', housing, etc.
Mentally the people in the UK and Canada have to reboot themselves as sovereign citizens, not as subject to the government begging for a cup o' gruel.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:47 PM (WDjG6)
229
Unless there's a major rebellion within Labour, the chances of an election before 2029 are less than zero.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:35 PM (tgvbd)
It is possible that the Labor MPs will see that 2029 will be a bloodbath, and hope that if they call an election sooner, that they can save their own seats.
Unlikely, but that's probably the only way it could happen.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:49 PM (VPtfc)
231
This year Brattleboro FART Tubes will has Presdent Obama and Micheale Obama picture on then. Hurry and gets yours before they be sells our. Only $39 per FART Tube this year. Happy Kawanza to to all.
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 07, 2025 01:51 PM (0IwHf)
232
Who watched PF’s Money video this morning? The Brits have been hankering for communism for a long time.
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 01:51 PM (8jVAy)
233
I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarine"
King's Bay is in Georgia... FWIW, the RN hasn't successfully launched anything more than an old jaguar * in years...
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (XuXeR)
234
>I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarines.
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I hoped there's a plan to seize them before the mohammedans take over
and the Royal Family better have a bugout plan
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (ZxPkt)
235
The CIA is a largely self-funding criminal organization. The good it does is incidental to the amount of damage it does on purpose.
They seem to believe they are uniquely charged with running the world regardless of the will of the people they supposedly serve.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Always some part of the population that wants to be secret kings hiding in plain sight amidst an institution while playing out their revenge and fantasy of power role plays. Backstabbers, blackmailers, liars, and manipulators that believe themselves to be Nietzsche's Superman--beyond good and evil.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (WDjG6)
236
Not to be outdone by Mike Lindell, the Shamwow guy is running as a republican for a Texas congressional seat.
- not a joke.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (c7Ygk)
237
Backstabbers, blackmailers, liars, and manipulators"
You left out Methodists...
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:53 PM (XuXeR)
238
227 I have no doubt the Labour Party Propaganda Ministry has complete sway over t he narrative just as here the Democrats/ Marxists Propaganda Ministry does
Posted by: Skip
For old people probably just like the US but X is now the leading source of news in about 14 European countries now. There is a reason that EU and Euro governments want that shut off as well as the internet as well.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:54 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:54 PM (VPtfc)
240
I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.
As a government and a nation, the poncy Limeys need to pay attention to their own business rather than sticking their noses in the US elections and US domestic affairs.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2025 01:54 PM (Hx3bp)
241I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful. Now more than ever we are the exception not the rule.
Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM
The USA is the exception through January 2029. Beyond that, who knows. And short of deporting all Muslims, banning them from ever returning, shutting down all H1B and OPT corruption and all outsourcing to India corruption, the USA is always on the brink of turning into Europe. As we all saw during COVID.
The USA is a country irrevocably divided. And a house divided cannot stand. This is not a country of Americans who have reasonable disagreements on how best to make America great for Americans. This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (P5BPp)
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237 Backstabbers, blackmailers, liars, and manipulators"
You left out Methodists...
Posted by: man
The type I am talking about consider themselves as their own god which is why they can do such appalling things. To them, other people's lives are not important compared to the power hungry type's desires so if sausage needs to be made, then these types figure themselves at the crank turning it.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:56 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:57 PM (VPtfc)
244
Look at the lefts reaction to Somalis stealing billions in Minnesota. We’re the bad guys for noticing. They’re the real victims dontchaknow?
No different than Brits who thinks rape gangs are no biggie because it’s their culture. You’re the bad guy for noticing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (SQJLY)
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Yeah, I think the Somali thing isn't going away quite so easily. The NYT realizes there is a problem. And as we go after the illegal alien hispanic gang thugs, it will be quite easy to go after the same in the islamic community. Minnesota just gave the feds license to start taking out the terrorist aligned islamic trash.
Posted by: Black JEM at December 07, 2025 01:57 PM (UVyKP)
245
I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful. Now more than ever we are the exception not the rule.
Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent."
Buy ammo.
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:58 PM (XuXeR)
246
The USA is a country irrevocably divided. And a house divided cannot stand. This is not a country of Americans who have reasonable disagreements on how best to make America great for Americans. This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (P5BPp)
Bingo. Basically good verses evil.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 01:59 PM (snZF9)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:59 PM (VPtfc)
248
You can clown on Mike Lindell, but in Minnesota he's as good of a Republican candidate as any of the more-credentialed cucks that might run. The state party apparatus, like in many other states, is DOA.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:00 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)
252This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.
And as I like to point out, the retards behind that agenda assume the average post-WW2 prosperity up to now as the baseline that's the fundamental load-bearer for the rest of their agenda. Surely nothing they want to do will affect that, right?
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (XuXeR)
254
As a government and a nation, the poncy Limeys need to pay attention to their own business rather than sticking their noses in the US elections and US domestic affairs.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
The very people doing that are a deracinated cosmopolitan populace that view their own fellow citizens as trash not fit to rule as the so called elite are. Thus, you get the EU which is a degenerate multinational empire emulating some of the worst features of the later Soviet Union.
Tom Friedman, for example, with his book, The World is Flat, propounds this viewpoint where these types see only their slice of reality emulated across the globe in enclaves where similar looters and wreckers of nations exist. For example, Mamdani's pampered Ugandan upbringing was nothing like the average African. A five star resort in the Seychelles resembles a similar one in Tahiti far more than either of them resemble the average person's lives in those isles. Etc. Etc.
Another term for these types is cloud people--they essentially float above the average concerns of individuals leaving them to concentrate on power and wealth accumulation. That is why our pols want generational wealth-to join them.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (WDjG6)
255
This year Brattleboro FART Tubes will has Presdent Obama and Micheale Obama picture on then. Hurry and gets yours before they be sells our. Only $39 per FART Tube this year. Happy Kawanza to to all.
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein
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I point out, again, That Obama Chia Pets are still available. I've actually been tempted to acquire one. There's something symbolic about it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2025 02:03 PM (XeU6L)
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Carrying-on from the Book Thread:
“My job as Vice President is NOT to look out for the interests of the whole world. It's my job to look out for the people of the United States.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
If the world's media could figure out that they do not represent the moral order of the universe we might actually get somewhere.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 11:42 AM (6ydKt)
I saw a video clip where some pasty white FNM hack "ask" Karoline Leavitt about why she had said that the Trump Admin saw it as important to preserve the American culture, and not import wholesale people that did not want to assimilate. He implied that it was racist against refugees!!! because his grandparents were refugees from war (I assume WWII).
Her answer was fine, but it did occur to me that she should have made the point that his grandparents were obviously European, and appeared to assimilated successfully into American society since he was sitting in the WH Press Briefing Room.
It would have been amusing if she had asked him how much money his grandparents had obtained fraudulently from the U.S. tax payers.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (pJWtt)
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Rumor is that China also has "kill switches" that would disable many US products, just by sending a signal. Ham radios for example ...
Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (vbXSk)
Vacuum tubes for the win. Easy to design and build from stuff we electronic nerds have laying around in our junk boxes.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (5xuJ/)
258
Tolkien predicted much of this, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (quqPW)
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The USA is a country irrevocably divided. And a house divided cannot stand. This is not a country of Americans who have reasonable disagreements on how best to make America great for Americans. This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (P5BPp)
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I appreciate the argument, but I can't accept it. The USA has always been divided, even at the time of the revolution.
What gives me hope is that much like 250 years ago, increasingly the best and brightest are rallying to the American ideal. And that ideal is greater than anything, even the march of islam. There are way too many people who see what is happening. They will rally here.
Posted by: Black JEM at December 07, 2025 02:23 PM (UVyKP)
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The UK is hosed if they do not put into place permanent Civil Service reform. The elections do not matter any more because the Civil Service is their Deep State Blob on steroids. Even if a super-charismatic, ultra-conservative were to become PM, the Civil Service would engage in all manner of deception, sabotage, and outright sedition to prevent change. It seems to be the central demon of the problem.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (mlg/3)
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Nayib Bukele posted a video on X of El Salvador's largest Western Hemisphere Christmas village. It's really nice, and they don't need anti-Hillary bollards to keep the Muslims out because there aren't any.
I've heard good things about Milei's Argentina as well, although I gather it's not yet as improved as El Salvador.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (QZThv)
IIRC, Nayib Bukele is himself a muslim, bit one of the non-militant kinds.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (npFr7)
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Crown, Crescent and Pitchfork.
One guys take on what might be next for the UK. Low grade civil war.
https://tinyurl.com/yhd9jjtn
Posted by: Strelnikov at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (LrEPG)
Posted by: STV at December 07, 2025 03:06 PM (XMeSM)
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Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.
Posted by: JackStraw
Who would have thought George W. Bush's to 9-11 of declaring it a "religion of peace" and flooding the western world was a bad idea.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 03:07 PM (/lPRQ)
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To do what must be done requires a strong stomach--to sink the boats, to end the 'free' healthcare complex, to end the free 'bennies', housing, etc.
Mentally the people in the UK and Canada have to reboot themselves as sovereign citizens, not as subject to the government begging for a cup o' gruel.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:47 PM (WDjG6)
The citizens of both countries, but especially Canada, very, very, very, very, very cheerfully acquiesced in the destruction of their liberty, just so they could get the services of a doctor for "free". Canada in particular is full of people who are unfit to be free and are incapable of self-government (h/t, TX Dec. of Ind., 1836) I suppose the subjects in both countries can reboot themselves mentally as you say...but, WILL they? Doubtful.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 03:09 PM (4786I)
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I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarines.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (VWtfl)
Nope. American made. Not American owned.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 03:11 PM (4786I)
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158 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)
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My Dad was listening to the radio while working on his car.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (0cOaq)
196 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Historical oddity - the reporter who broke the story that Pearl Harbor was being bombed was in Chicago. He was at a police station on a slow Sunday, the desk sergeant had a ham radio, and they heard a ham radio operator describing the bombing, and you could hear the explosions in the background.
One of the stranger achievements of the famed City News Bureau of Chicago.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:29 PM (xTIDn)
Wonderful stuff.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 03:48 PM (RuTUS)
268Will Nigel Farage be able to fight the structural and political impediments to a Reform Party win in the next elections almost four years from now?
Win, yes. Save Britain, no.
I still believe that Farage is the Deep State's fallback position.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 04:09 PM (jc0TO)
Maybe it's England of the 17th & 18th century. Will this new(er) crop flee the tyranny, even as their forefathers did?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 07, 2025 04:21 PM (bufu1)
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WW1 was fought due to the egos of a nepotistic elite for no good reason and none of them had any idea what would happen. Then they bungled the peace which led to the rise of Hitler which led to a necessary war. All the destruction and loss of valuable population led to them losing the resources to do the things that made them powerful. But guess what? The descendants of those nepo elite are still rich and comfortable and even more incompetant.
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 07, 2025 04:24 PM (3/XaG)
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Visited England in 1996. I was there during Euro 96, and the 1996 Manchester bombing. Garbage cans/waste receptacles were few and far between. There were garbage cans on the Underground, with the lids welded shut. it took me a while to realize the lack of garbage cans was to remove places to put bombs.
Posted by: Nancy@7000ft at December 07, 2025 05:41 PM (wYaAc)
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On most strategic metrices the UK is not nearly as crap as the US.
Fun to read a Merkin concern-trolling about demographic change or declining prospects for average-income white people. It is to laugh.
Littering is much worse in Us cities than London and as for violent crime...
Posted by: michele kerr at December 07, 2025 05:53 PM (aIFJ6)
273The ruling party in Poland would like to have mass immigration, but they realize that they will be voted out of office if they try.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM
Is the Poland Government Anti-Immigration?
Yes, the government's immigration stance is notably restrictive and security-focused, aligning with anti-immigration rhetoric despite its non-conservative ideology. This reflects broad Polish public sentiment, hybrid threats from Belarus/Russia, and continuity from the prior PiS era. Key elements of the 2025–2030 Migration Strategy ("Regain Control, Ensure Security"):
Border Security: Continued pushbacks of migrants at the Belarus border (over 9,800 reported from Dec 2023–Aug 2024, with at least 87 deaths since 2021). New laws limit criminal liability for border guards using force and fortify the border.
Asylum Suspension: Legislation allows temporary (60-day) suspension of asylum applications if migration "threatens to destabilize the state," with extensions possible.
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Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 07:53 PM (P5BPp)
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EU Pact Resistance: Poland secured an exemption from mandatory migrant relocations under the EU Migration Pact, insisting it won't host relocated asylum seekers from other member states.
Selective Immigration: Tightens rules for non-EU workers (e.g., digitalized work permits, signed contracts required, no labor market tests, stricter student visas) while favoring culturally similar migrants (e.g., Ukrainians, with ~992,000 under temporary protection).
Grok summary: https://bit.ly/4aAq8MI
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 07:54 PM (P5BPp)
275What gives me hope is that much like 250 years ago, increasingly the best and brightest are rallying to the American ideal. And that ideal is greater than anything, even the march of islam. There are way too many people who see what is happening. They will rally here.
Posted by: Black JEM at December 07, 2025 02:23 PM
Six years ago, I would have shared that sentiment. Then I saw how everyone in the country did nothing to fight to the tyranny of the government during the COVID Plandemic.
People did nothing as they were forced to watch their loved ones die alone in hospitals. People went along with wearing masks everywhere. People went along with forcing children to stay home from school and then forcing children to wear masks when back at school. People went along with mandated closing of businesses and churches.
The people in the USA of 2025 are nothing like the people of the soon-to-be USA of 250 years ago.
Seeing what is happening means nothing unless there is action. As stated in Batman Begins, "Training is nothing. Will is everything. The will to act."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 08:20 PM (P5BPp)
276IIRC, Nayib Bukele is himself a muslim, bit one of the non-militant kinds.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM
Via Grok... the cynic in me would say that he is pretending to not be a Muslim to gain power in a Christian nation and then eventually impose Islam.
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No, Nayib Bukele is not Muslim. He has explicitly stated that he does not adhere to any specific religion, though he believes in God (and has referenced faith in Jesus Christ in past interviews).
His father, Armando Bukele Kattán (a Palestinian immigrant), converted to Islam and served as an imam, and some of his siblings (like half-brother Imam Emerson Bukele) are practicing Muslims.
Bukele's mother is Catholic, giving him a mixed Christian-Muslim family background.
This distinction became a point of political attack during his 2019 presidential campaign, when opponents shared photos of him praying in a mosque with his family to falsely portray him as a "secret Muslim" and stoke anti-Muslim sentiment in largely Christian El Salvador.
Some sources and social media claims continue to mislabel him as Muslim, but reliable reports consistently clarify his non-religious stance.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (P5BPp)
Sunday Morning Book Thread - 12-07-2025 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]
(HT: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing) (Click image for larger view.)
Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever guilty pleasure we feel like reading (sonic screwdriver not included). Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...
So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, pour yourself a nice cup of eggnog (with a dash of cinnamon and vanilla), and dive into a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?
PIC NOTE
MP4, what does your home library look like?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 11:15 AM (kpS4V)
Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (or MP4 for short) is a gentleman, so in answer to All Hail Eris' request he kindly sent me a few pictures of his home library. The one up top is only a portion of his library. If you look at the right side of the photo, you can see that the library extends into the next room. He sent me a picture of those books as well. He also said that there's a lot more books in his attic office space, where he does a lot of his writing. What I love about this library is that it's clearly the library of a scholar. It's meant to be USED, not just there for showing off. It's an amazing library and I appreciate MP4 being willing to display it for the Horde.
He also sent me a picture of his amazing DVD collection. Again, it's overflowing, which is only right and proper.
(Click image for larger view.)
REAL MEN BUILD LIBRARIES
Civilization as we know it today would not be possible without men building libraries. Libraries preserve the knowledge and wisdom of our ancestors, guiding us in our current and future endeavors. When civilization comes crashing down again, as it always does, will we even have access to the digital content in abundance right now? Or will we look to the men who built libraries to save civilization once again?
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Admit it...we've all been there.
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WHY IS READING SO COMPETITIVE NOW?
In a sense, the video above highlights a point that's opposite of the "Real Men Build Libraries" video. She points out that social media is changing the way we read and interact with books. How many of us read one book after another in order to simply rack up a book count? I know I'm guilty of this. Being the curator of the Sunday Morning Book Thread does impose a certain amount of subtle peer pressure to read more and more books. If I don't read multiple books a week, am I letting you guys down?
A lot of this competitive atmosphere in reading seems to be driven by one thing: FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out). People get so focused on what's trending in their preferred reading that they want to keep up with each other, so it really does become a competitive sport of sorts. Especially if you use a reading app that tracks your progress and then lets you see the progress of others. People can also be quite judgemental about others' reading habits and will make themselves known in social media for looking down on someone of they don't read the "right books" or don't read them in the "right way." Lots of social pressure to conform to the current trend of the day.
As for me, while I do try to read quite a few books and I have a standard goal of reading ten books a month, since that's about average for me, I don't worry about what's trendy or cool. That's the nice thing about being 29+. You don't care so much about what others think. Instead, I try to find books that *I* want to read because they sound interesting to *me.* Moron Recommendations are very useful in this respect because I can look for something that interests me AND has a substantial recommendation from one of you to provide evidence that I might enjoy it.
You all know what I read since I post those books every week. Some of it is quality material, but a lot of might be considered "trash" by the literati since it doesn't meet their standard of quality. Whatever. I don't care. It's not about THEM. I read what I like, and so should you. I'm constantly amazed by the breadth and depth of the Moron Horde reading tastes. Collectively, we are among the most well-read group of people on the planet, on par with any BookTok or BookTube community out there. Let's all be proud of that fact.
The only person you should be competing against when it comes to reading is yourself.
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MORON RECOMMENDATIONS
I love my Kindle (eyesight issues), and this week picked up John Ringo's Not That Kind of Good Guy, part 1 of his new Shadow Path series. First impression,...
OMG, HOLY CHRIST ON A CUPCAKE!!!!!
I say that, not because of the storytelling, but the political/social commentary. This is Illuminati plus Atlas Shrugged mixed with a little Logan's Run.
Ringo delivers an EPIC takedown of crime and social failure in Baltimore right at the beginning of the book. It's vicious and pointed. Living out here, it misses a few things, but the topics he hits on, are items that have been on WBFF for the last couple years.
Only halfway through it, but that's because I've had to re-read some sections because of the depth to make sure I understand what Ringo is really saying. This isn't your normal Ringo book. Sometimes I think sarcastically to myself, "So how do you REALLY feel, John?!?"
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at November 30, 2025 09:49 AM (e/Osv)
Comment: I'm so glad I live in a small semi-rural community. Sure, we have our problems. Lots of drugs flow through here because we're on a major drug route. Still, it's a nice enough community that you can go to Walmart and accidentally leave your car unlocked and the chances that someone will steal everything in your vehicle are somewhat remote. I would not be surprised if the cities continue to devolve to the point where only those who truly cannot leave remain.
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James Kahn's novelization of Return of the Jedi is brilliant. It formed the core of my inspiration to write the Man of Destiny series, which was a correction to the terrible prequel films.
As in most novelizations, there are some expanded dialogue sequences, thus Luke and Obi-wan go deeper into the history, which was likely in the script but cut. It totally undermines the prequels, which are a direct contradiction. Anakin was not a kid, but an adult, about the same age as Luke when his adventure began.
This was central to my reimagining the story and while I'm biased, others (some in the Horde) will agree with me.
Kahn also has a nice turn of phrase, and the book includes a twist on the Death Star attack, which is that when the shield generator is actually taken out, the Emperor orders the station to destroy Endor in order to further enrage Luke. A bit much for the movie, but a nice touch.
My favorite part was the character portrait of Jerjerrod, the Death Star's commander.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 30, 2025 09:59 AM (ZOv7s)
Comment: I'll have to go back and reread this book. It's been sitting on my shelves for decades now. Like a lot of movie novelizations that came out at the time, it includes several full-color photos from the movie, such as a picture of ace in his younger years, as well as the sexiest picture of Sy Snootles ever captured on film, as I'm sure Admiral Ackbar would agree.
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Speaking of James Bond, however: I finished Anthony Horowitz's "continuation" novel, Trigger Mortis, and enjoyed it immensely. He has Fleming's style down pat, and there is plenty of action -- a car race, shootouts, a live burial, and a climactic scene aboard a racing train. It's set in 1957, right after the events of Goldfinger, with a featured appearance by Miss Pussy Galore. Never fear, being "with" Bond, as we saw at the end of GF, has not tamed her or her DC preferences in the least.
Highly recommended for Bond fans. I need to buy a copy for my shelf.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:17 AM (wzUl9)
Comment: Some authors are able to continue a previous author's works if they are able to capture the spirit of the previous author. Not every author is successful at this. Brian Herbert teamed up with Kevin J. Anderson to continue Frank Herbert's Dune series and I've heard it's a mixed bag. I think to be successful, you really need to understand what made the original work so well. In the example above, it sounds like Horowitz knew how a James Bond novel was supposed to work and then mirrored Fleming's style to bring those elements together. The result is a James Bond novel that works.
I enjoyed Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds, so I went ahead and picked up a few more books in the series. Curiously, two of them are listed as Book 2 of the Inhibitors Trilogy on Amazon, but only one of them counts, I think. Chasm City is a standalone novel set in the same universe (it's referenced quite a bit in Revelation Space).
Inhibitor Trilogy Book 2 - Redemption Ark by Alastair Reynolds
Chasm City by Alastair Reynolds
Inhibitor Space by Alastair Reynolds
WHAT I'VE BEEN READING THIS PAST WEEK:
Mystery Walk by Robert R. McCammon
This is a reread for me, separated by about 40 years. I first read this when I was in sixth grade. My family had just moved to Germany and for our first Thanksgiving my dad decided to take us on a chartered bus trip to Costa Brava, Spain, near Barcelona. It's a long way from Grafenwoehr, Germany to Spain. Naturally I took along several books, among which was Mystery Walk, that was loaned to me by a friend.
Mystery Walk is the story of two young men who are blessed--or cursed--with supernatural abilities. Billy Creekmore is able to see those who are about to die and also assist their weary spirits in crossing over to the other side. Wayne Falconer is the son of a bible-thumping tent-revivalist and he has the power to heal some people, but not everyone. Turns out Wayne and Billy have a deep connection as a result of their supernatural abilities. The evil shape-changer is ever-present in the shadows of their lives, twisting their abilities to serve his own purposes (mostly feeding on them).
As horror books go, the build-up is a bit slow, but it really gets moving in the middle and later parts of the books as the boys age into adulthood and take on the responsibilities and obligations of their powers.
Fear Nothing by Dean Koontz
I decided to stick with horror for the next read after Mystery Walk so I turned to one of my recent favorite authors--Dean Koontz. He rarely disappoints.
Christopher Snow isn't ordinary, but he wants to lead an ordinary life. He's afflicted with a horrible condition that prevents him from enjoying the sunlight. He's extremely sensitive to UV radiation to the point where prolonged exposure will kill him in short order. Nevertheless, he manages to lead a happy, well-adjusted life in Midnight Cove, California. That is, until his father's corpse is body-snatched right out from under his nose. Now Chris is being hunted by shadowy, not-quite-human pursuers through the darkened streets of Midnight Cove. Chris has no idea what's going on, but he suspects his dead parents were hiding secrets from him, though they loved him till the end.
What's really going on in Midnight Cove? Was the nearby Army base shut down eighteen months ago, or is the government continuing mad science experiments in secret down in the bowels of the earth?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 09:02 AM (Riz8t)
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My wife, God rest her soul, loved "Homicide Hunter". I always mispronounced it as Homie-cide Hunter, as there were a few homies getting killed during the series...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:03 AM (ynpvh)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (ynpvh)
14As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants
So, pants ARE required, unless you're wearing THOSE pants, which means if you ARE wearing THOSE pants, pants are not required, and therefore you could take them off.
"Illogical", as Spock, son of Sarek, might say (perhaps even with a raised eyebrow!)
I am starting to have some sympathy with certain Commentators who are known non-pants wearers for this Thread. You know who you are.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (0sNs1)
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How many of us read one book after another in order to simply rack up a book count?
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I used to maybe but I am too old for that now.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:08 AM (eZ5tL)
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14 As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants
So, pants ARE required, unless you're wearing THOSE pants, which means if you ARE wearing THOSE pants, pants are not required, and therefore you could take them off.
"Illogical", as Spock, son of Sarek, might say (perhaps even with a raised eyebrow!)
I am starting to have some sympathy with certain Commentators who are known non-pants wearers for this Thread. You know who you are.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (0sNs1)
There seems to be a reason for those pants...seems the wearer has a drainage line of some kind affixed beneath the cut leg...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:10 AM (ynpvh)
I'm still working my way through The Hobbit, and it has been probably 15 years since my last journey There And Back Again, when I read it to my kids. Going through it after reading Waugh, Ford, and other contemporaries, the humor and snark is a lot more pronounced. Tolkien was a brilliant writer, but he had an edge as well. I'm laughing out loud at gags that completely bypassed me.
My primary writing continues to be revisions to Conqueror: Fields of Victory, my fantasy/historical miniatures rules that have sold in the very low dozens of copy (so low I'm barely entitled to use a plural). So likely to be lucrative, but I'm playing games and painting, which is the point.
Also trying to finish up editing the audio for Battle Officer Wolf, which is resulting in a lot of corrections. I'm 2/3 of the way through, so on track to get it done this year.
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Kindle trys to push that book count but I ignored it
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (Ia/+0)
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15 How many of us read one book after another in order to simply rack up a book count?
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I used to maybe but I am too old for that now.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:08 AM (eZ5tL)
I never did; that takes it from a pleasure to a chore.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (ynpvh)
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I have bookshelves with overstacking like that. I have also commandeered walls in several other rooms besides the library for shelving. I think the books are reproducing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (0U5gm)
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20 Kindle trys to push that book count but I ignored it
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (Ia/+0)
Kids today talk about body count; here that has a different meaning.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (ynpvh)
I'm flattered to be quoted by our esteemed group leader here, and to see Trigger Mortis being devoured by our iconic squirrel. TM differs from the continuation novels done by John Gardner in the '80s not least because it's set as a period piece in 1957. Bond as we know him in teh novels is really a Cold War-era hero. He's timeless when it's done right (see Skyfall), but JG's idea, or publishers' mandate, was to update him to the 1980s. Some of it worked, some didn't. But I like TM much better.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (wzUl9)
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I am reading the Expanse novels -actually listening since I can do audiobooks while working usually.
3rd book - Abbadon's Gate - audiobook is still not ready on libby so I started the print book last night.
Also listening to The Ladies of Grace Adieu on audiobook.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:12 AM (eZ5tL)
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Some authors are able to continue a previous author's works if they are able to capture the spirit of the previous author. Not every author is successful at this.
I've only read one Bond novel, License Renewed. Can't remember if I liked it, or even had any idea if it matched the Fleming originals.
I have read a few Matt Helms, and they're definitely not like the movies with that other Dino. But I still like them because of the Rat Pack Cool times. Dean Martin was a pretty good actor. You think of the Helm movies and Ocean's Eleven, and Robin and the Seven Hoods, but Dean said he preferred westerns. Did good work in Rio Bravo, a villain turn in Rough Night in Jericho, and comedic westerns like Texas Across the River and Four for Texas.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:12 AM (uQesX)
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I am starting to have some sympathy with certain Commentators who are known non-pants wearers for this Thread. You know who you are.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (0sNs1)
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::: looking for a pair of complaint lower-wear :::
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:12 AM (ynpvh)
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5 And later, I have to give the wife driving lessons after the sun comes up.
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Please be patient with Mrs OrangeEnt.
Driving lessons to family can be a nightmare.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:13 AM (eZ5tL)
Nice library MPPP I'm pleased to have looked for and found the Richard J. Evans trilogy on your shelves which to me is a mark of completeness.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 09:14 AM (m6HS6)
31He also sent me a picture of his amazing DVD collection. Again, it's overflowing, which is only right and proper.
TJM has an amazing collection. I'm merely a dilettante.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:14 AM (ufSfZ)
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The family did the century challenge a few times. That is setting a goal of 100 books read in a year for each person. Normally, I just read as much as I can without the competition.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:14 AM (0U5gm)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 07, 2025 09:14 AM (zdLoL)
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I read Cascade Failure by L. N. Sagas. It was recommended here a few weeks ago, and it didn't disappoint. The Ambit is a Guild ship captained by an AI, Eoan, with a crew of two, Saint and Nash. Interesting characters, lots of action-adventures, and a captivating story line. What more does one need in a sci-fi book?
Posted by: Zoltan at December 07, 2025 09:15 AM (VOrDg)
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There seems to be a reason for those pants...seems the wearer has a drainage line of some kind affixed beneath the cut leg...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:10 AM (ynpvh)
It's a circular knitting needle. Pants are mid-construction. Should have been abandoned much sooner.
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How many of us read one book after another in order to simply rack up a book count?
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I used to maybe but I am too old for that now.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:08 AM (eZ5tL)
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Not me. I was perpetually broke as a kid, so tried to choose my books with care. I did hit up the local library, but by the time I was in high school, I'd discovered that you could read history written by people who were there (Livy, Tacitus, etc.) and that became my focus.
I do not buy books lightly. I do not keep books that displease me. I rarely own books I have not read. If I go long enough without reading them, I sell them for books I will read.
As to a library, I do not have one; my books are distributed throughout the house, each shelf housing a particular topic.
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I have bookshelves with overstacking like that. I have also commandeered walls in several other rooms besides the library for shelving. I think the books are reproducing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (0U5gm)
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Are you letting the fiction mingle with the nonfiction?
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 07, 2025 09:14 AM (zdLoL)
Don't have a Mrs. anymore, so things tend to be a bit...free-flowing...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:16 AM (ynpvh)
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Re: Reading Slumps -- We've all been there? Jeez, I'm there now and have been for weeks.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
Give audiobooks s try
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:16 AM (eZ5tL)
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35 There seems to be a reason for those pants...seems the wearer has a drainage line of some kind affixed beneath the cut leg...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:10 AM (ynpvh)
It's a circular knitting needle. Pants are mid-construction. Should have been abandoned much sooner.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 07, 2025 09:15 AM (h7ZuX)
So shorts?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:17 AM (ynpvh)
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TJM has an amazing collection. I'm merely a dilettante.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:14 AM (ufSfZ)
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Same here.
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1 Tolle Lege
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 08:57 AM (Ia/+0)
2 Thought I would be asleep at the wheel eh?
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)
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Old Faithful
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 09:17 AM (m6HS6)
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37 I have bookshelves with overstacking like that. I have also commandeered walls in several other rooms besides the library for shelving. I think the books are reproducing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (0U5gm)
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Are you letting the fiction mingle with the nonfiction?
If so, no wonder your books are reproducing...
Nonfiction = Male
Fiction = Female
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 07, 2025 09:16 AM (ESVrU)
Glad there are no trannies in the mix...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:17 AM (ynpvh)
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This week I finished the literary novel Tell the Wolves I'm Home, a debut by one Carol Rifka Blunt. It's entertaining in its way, clearly written (and not in that often-pretentious present tense), and involves complex emotions between a fourteen-year-old girl in 1987 NYC, her gay uncle who dies of the then-new disease AIDS early on, and the uncle's long-time lover who also suffers from the syndrome. And between the girl and her family, father and mother (both accountants!) and her older sister. Despite the AIDS business running through it, it's not dark and grim.
Not my usual fare, and I thought it was a little longer than it needed to be, but it was a good read.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:17 AM (wzUl9)
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I'm about to finish one book I've been working through for a while. I can't decide whether I'm going to (a) pick an easy read from the TBR pile; (b) make a plan to do an extended deep-dive into the theology books in my "library;" or (c) focus on finishing my self-taught trigonometry course (I have books; it counts!).
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 09:18 AM (GALGA)
47
Please be patient with Mrs OrangeEnt.
Driving lessons to family can be a nightmare.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:13 AM (eZ5tL)
I taught the first one, I can teach her, too. That's what empty business parking lots are for on Sundays.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (uQesX)
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The more I read from Eric Ambler the more he impresses me. I recently read Background to Danger, his second book, written in 1937. In this novel, one can see a prototype of a James Bond story, except the protagonist is a British news writer instead of a spy licensed to kill. To me, Ambler is a link between the golden age of mysteries and modern spy novels.
Kenton is in Austria looking for stories, nearly broke and traveling to Linz, hoping to call in a favor from a friend, when he is asked to hold an envelope for a fellow traveler. Little does he know that within hours he will be wanted for the man's murder. He is soon caught between soviet spies and their corporate competitors seeking the envelope he held.
Kenton has to choose which side to be on, despite not wanting to be on either. The novel develops dramatically, as the two sides vie for the documents, and the climax is as dramatic as any modern spy story.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (0U5gm)
I have a vision of AH Lloyd's books perfectly straight on the shelves, quaking with fear as he does the morning inspection.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (eZ5tL)
50
Anybody read "Morning Glory Milking Farm". LOL. I certainly haven't and won't...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (ynpvh)
51Is "Hitler at Home" a cookbook?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (ynpvh)
There probably is a Hitler cookbook somewhere, I wouldn't be surprised, although it would just be a vegetarian tome. Hitler At Home is about his attempts, through architecture, to control his residential spaces and what that tells us about both his persona and the way he wanted to publicly present himself as Fuhrer.
And I wish I did live in an old, rambling Victorian or Queen Anne house. I do live in a nice, cosy 1924 bungalow. And yes, the candlestick phone in the second picture is real and it works.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:20 AM (ufSfZ)
52
I read plenty, just times can't seem to get back to a book I want to read
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 09:20 AM (Ia/+0)
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I've finished "Thunderball" -- but wait, there's more. The story is in a three-novel omnibus, "Bonded Fleming," which also has "For Your Eyes Only," a collection of Bond short stories; and "The Spy Who Loved Me." I'll reread FYEO but skip the last, because I didn't like it the first time.
As for "Thunderball," Fleming could have shortened it by cutting several scenes, including an entire chapter in which the female lead rolls out a story based on the artwork on the packs of her favorite cigarette. It does nothing to advance the plot. I think Fleming was starting to get literary.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 09:21 AM (p/isN)
I'm not so sure about your WifFi router placement, though.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 09:21 AM (6ydKt)
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As to a library, I do not have one; my books are distributed throughout the house, each shelf housing a particular topic.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 07, 2025 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)
My wife loved cookbooks...a whole bookshelf of them... although seldom cooked from them...one day I'll donate/sell most of them except a select few that are useful. Many have beautiful pictures of food...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:22 AM (ynpvh)
If I were still taking the occasional long bus trip or attending conferences for work, I'd probably do audiobooks. But retired now and not traveling, and it just doesn't seem to work for me. Buried around here somewhere I've got a set of Harlan Ellison's recordings of his own stories, and I love a lot of those stories and Ellison was a terrific reader; I revisit some of his work now and then, but in print and almost never in audio. Who can say why? When the eyes finally get too bad even for the Kindle, I'll try it again.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 09:23 AM (q3u5l)
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On my TBR pile, lessee . . . I'm reading Anthony Horowitz's The House of Silk, a Sherlock Holmes novel set in 1890, only about three years after Watson met him. It is very much in Doyle's style. And unlike many Holmes adventures, including those of Doyle himself, Holmes has some *real* difficulties in the case -- including being accused of murder and thrown into a London prison!
A Lee Child Jack Reacher is on my pile, along with another Horowitz, The Twist of a Knife, one of his Daniel Hawthorne mysteries; and (for a reread) Robert Parker's first novel about Sunny Randall the female Boston PI, Family Honor.
The Sunny stories are set in the same universe as the Spensers and the Jesse Stones. I wonder why no one has adapted one of them for TV or a movie?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:23 AM (wzUl9)
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I am starting to have some sympathy with certain Commentators who are known non-pants wearers for this Thread. You know who you are.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (0sNs1)
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Quite the breeze in here too.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 09:24 AM (m6HS6)
59I have bookshelves with overstacking like that. I have also commandeered walls in several other rooms besides the library for shelving. I think the books are reproducing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:11 AM (0U5gm)
I sympathize: I have the same problem.
The "Real Men Build Libraries" video really rang true for me. The Old Man was a bibliophile with a voracious appetite -- by the time he died, he owned a personal library of 25,000 books.
As a 'yoot' I had unrestricted access, and I still remember during elementary and high school conducting research for school essays based almost entirely on the books that the Old Man had at home.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 09:24 AM (pJWtt)
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I do not buy books lightly... If I go long enough without reading them, I sell them for books I will read.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 07, 2025 09:16 AM (ZOv7s)
It must be a regional thing, selling books. I've never lived in a place where bookstores will buy your books. They usually offer exchanges or store credit. Too much snooping about sales to put them on ebay. Why do they think you need to calculate tax on a couple dollar sale?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:24 AM (uQesX)
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And yes, the candlestick phone in the second picture is real and it works.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:20 AM (ufSfZ)
That's awesome!
Posted by: dantesed at December 07, 2025 09:24 AM (Oy/m2)
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51 Is "Hitler at Home" a cookbook?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (ynpvh)
There probably is a Hitler cookbook somewhere, I wouldn't be surprised, although it would just be a vegetarian tome. Hitler At Home is about his attempts, through architecture, to control his residential spaces and what that tells us about both his persona and the way he wanted to publicly present himself as Fuhrer.
And I wish I did live in an old, rambling Victorian or Queen Anne house. I do live in a nice, cosy 1924 bungalow. And yes, the candlestick phone in the second picture is real and it works.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:20 AM (ufSfZ)
Turns out you're right, MP4...
on Goodreads, "The Adolf Hitler Cookbook: The Food the Fuhrer Ate" by David Rogers...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:25 AM (ynpvh)
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taught the first one, I can teach her, too. That's what empty business parking lots are for on Sundays.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Wait, your WIFE can't drive???
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 09:25 AM (Ia/+0)
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OrangeEnt, Heinlein wrote that teaching a spouse to drive (paraphrasing) was a quick route to divorce. Of course, read that about 15 years after Dad taught Mom to drive - with 4 kids in the back of the station wagon. Spoiler: they did not divorce.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 07, 2025 09:26 AM (NcvvS)
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64 I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that my packed Schickelgruber shelves need some lebensraum.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:25 AM (ufSfZ)
Well, they haven't invaded the middle shelf yet...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:27 AM (ynpvh)
68As for "Thunderball," Fleming could have shortened it by cutting several scenes, including an entire chapter in which the female lead rolls out a story based on the artwork on the packs of her favorite cigarette. It does nothing to advance the plot. I think Fleming was starting to get literary.
If memory serves, Fleming actually wrote Thunderball as a movie treatment before adapting it to a novel.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:27 AM (ufSfZ)
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As for civilizations building libraries, that reminds me of "Earth Abides." If you haven't read it, it's about a man, Ish, who is one of the few survivors of a global pandemic or biological attack. He wants to preserve a library he discovers, but ultimately he realizes that it will be lost to time because there aren't enough humans at this point to actually have a civilization - all the knowledge is meaningless without people who can effectively use it.
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 09:28 AM (GALGA)
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66 OrangeEnt, Heinlein wrote that teaching a spouse to drive (paraphrasing) was a quick route to divorce. Of course, read that about 15 years after Dad taught Mom to drive - with 4 kids in the back of the station wagon. Spoiler: they did not divorce.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 07, 2025 09:26 AM (NcvvS)
May portent poorly for brothers teaching their sisters to drive in the deep South...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:28 AM (ynpvh)
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I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that my packed Schickelgruber shelves need some lebensraum.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:25 AM (ufSfZ)
I was going to make a comment about Ace and shelves but then I noticed those shelves are in fine shape.
Posted by: dantesed at December 07, 2025 09:28 AM (Oy/m2)
72I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that my packed Schickelgruber shelves need some lebensraum.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:25 AM (ufSfZ)
Well, they haven't invaded the middle shelf yet...
They'll probably form a pact with the bottom shelf and partition the middle one.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 09:28 AM (Riz8t)
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As for "Thunderball," Fleming could have shortened it by cutting several scenes, including an entire chapter in which the female lead rolls out a story based on the artwork on the packs of her favorite cigarette. It does nothing to advance the plot. I think Fleming was starting to get literary.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 09:21 AM (p/isN)
Ain't no need for that poofy kind of stuff. Dulls down interest. Maybe he did it for word count?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:28 AM (uQesX)
74I've finished "Thunderball" -- but wait, there's more. The story is in a three-novel omnibus, "Bonded Fleming," which also has "For Your Eyes Only," a collection of Bond short stories; and "The Spy Who Loved Me." I'll reread FYEO but skip the last, because I didn't like it the first time.
As for "Thunderball," Fleming could have shortened it by cutting several scenes, including an entire chapter in which the female lead rolls out a story based on the artwork on the packs of her favorite cigarette. It does nothing to advance the plot. I think Fleming was starting to get literary.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025
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That last is one of the reasons I think TB is one of his weakest books. Spy Who is an interesting experiment, and he captures the tone of a young Englishwoman in the early Sixties writing about her dangerous adventure and brief affair with Bond. It's truly interesting to see him from an outsider's viewpoint.
The short stories are intriguing, esp. "Risico" and the title story. Be aware that "Quantum of Solace" is not only nothing like the Daniel Craig film of that title, but also not an adventure -- it's more of a Somerset Maugham tale.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:28 AM (wzUl9)
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Speaking of MP4's DVD stack, I hinted to Santa that I want the Kolchak television series DVD this year. Fingers crossed.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:29 AM (0U5gm)
76
I still think Bond had one of the nest one-liners in movie history.
Plenty O'Toole:
Hi, I'm Plenty.
James Bond:
But of course you are.
Plenty O'Toole:
Plenty O'Toole.
James Bond:
Named after your father perhaps?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 09:29 AM (6ydKt)
77 . . . an entire chapter in which the female lead rolls out a story based on the artwork on the packs of her favorite cigarette. It does nothing to advance the plot. I think Fleming was starting to get literary.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025
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Ain't no need for that poofy kind of stuff. Dulls down interest. Maybe he did it for word count?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025
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Characterization. Though he usually was able to characterize his heroines just as well in less space in earlier books.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:30 AM (wzUl9)
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68 As for "Thunderball," Fleming could have shortened it by cutting several scenes, including an entire chapter in which the female lead rolls out a story based on the artwork on the packs of her favorite cigarette. It does nothing to advance the plot. I think Fleming was starting to get literary.
If memory serves, Fleming actually wrote Thunderball as a movie treatment before adapting it to a novel.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:27 AM (ufSfZ)
Does the cigarette carton have anything to do with the plot later on? Seem to violate Chekhov's gun...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:30 AM (ynpvh)
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The town where my parents live has a Carnegie Library. Why they choose that town I don't know. It would have been a pretty rural area at the time. Still is, relatively.
Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 09:32 AM (vFG9F)
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75 Speaking of MP4's DVD stack, I hinted to Santa that I want the Kolchak television series DVD this year. Fingers crossed.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:29 AM (0U5gm)
Hah! I have that! Bought it at a going-out-of-business sale at a local DVD place a decade ago...sadly, haven't cracked it open yet, and SOMEHOW the "new" TV in the living room is dead, and nobody, not even the cats, will admit to breaking it...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:32 AM (ynpvh)
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50 Anybody read "Morning Glory Milking Farm". LOL. I certainly haven't and won't...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (ynpvh)
I won't even search it for curiosity's sake, as I fear my search suggestions would then be all minotaur porn, all the time.
I did mention that I had typed up the first draft and was getting ready to edit. But before I could do that, I needed to refresh my memory of the Taylor murder, to see what details I might have got wrong or what red herrings I could add. As you may or may not know, there are four full-length books about the murder, and I happened to mention to my muse that the thought of going through them and making notes was daunting and I didn't know where I was going to find the energy to do it.
Her suggestion was, why not go back a year and make the plot about the Roscoe Arbuckle case? The problem with that is, that while I can revamp the book, it still requires reading the three full-length books on his case.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:32 AM (ufSfZ)
83 *Well, they haven't invaded the middle shelf yet.*
Das Buchernacht.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 09:33 AM (XQo4F)
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taught the first one, I can teach her, too. That's what empty business parking lots are for on Sundays.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Wait, your WIFE can't drive???
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 09:25 AM (VCgbV)
Provincial Filipinas generally don't have access to cars.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:33 AM (uQesX)
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I'm listening to The Running Grave by Robert Galbraith, aka J. K. Rowling. I find I enjoy the language, its English, of course, but the phrasing and terminology for common things is quite different and I get a kick out of it.
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81 50 Anybody read "Morning Glory Milking Farm". LOL. I certainly haven't and won't...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (ynpvh)
I won't even search it for curiosity's sake, as I fear my search suggestions would then be all minotaur porn, all the time.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 07, 2025 09:32 AM (h7ZuX)
LOL. My elder child had his EweToob tab open and wasn't around, so I looked up as much weird music stuff as I could find. He started getting suggestions for Indian Lesbian rap...LOL.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:34 AM (ynpvh)
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OrangeEnt, Heinlein wrote that teaching a spouse to drive (paraphrasing) was a quick route to divorce. Of course, read that about 15 years after Dad taught Mom to drive - with 4 kids in the back of the station wagon. Spoiler: they did not divorce.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 07, 2025 09:26 AM (NcvvS)
Didn't lead to the first one leaving, doubt it'll make the current one either. I'll just give her the basics, then see how much a driving school charges.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:35 AM (uQesX)
88. . . I do live in a nice, cosy 1924 bungalow. And yes, the candlestick phone in the second picture is real and it works.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025
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Just the kind of house I want -- though I'm willing to accept a 1940s through 1960s house too. And I'd like a classic 1950s-60s rotary phone, but the candlestick one is great too. Perfect for hanging a fedora on when you come back in from bad weather.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:35 AM (wzUl9)
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Currently reading Glen Cook's Port of Shadows and stuck in Greg Bear's Anvil of Stars. Gave up on a book for the first time: The Education of Henry Adams - he was talking about Darwin and evolution in religious awe.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 07, 2025 09:35 AM (NcvvS)
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I think there were all kinds of legal go-rounds between Fleming, the producers, and actor Sean McClory (who had been involved in coming up with the story for Thunderball IIRC). Later the story was reworked for Never Say Never Again (which I thought was a lot more fun than Thunderball - YMMV).
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 09:35 AM (q3u5l)
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Wait, your WIFE can't drive???
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 09:25 AM (VCgbV)
More interestingly, neither could his first.
Where in the world do you shop for wives, OrangeENT?
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I'm a bookslutaholic and, accordingly, have bought three books in the last few days including a history of WWII German intelligence "honey pot"operations. That's all well and good but I was charged twice for one of the books. I called Amazon and there was some confusion. They asked which book I was talking about. I whispered, "Nazi Sex Spies." The guy, who sounded like he was from Bombay, asked me to repeat. "Nazi Sex Spies," I said. He said he still couldn't understand. "NAZI SEX SPIES!" I shouted. "NAZI! SEX! SPIES!" I finally got my $5 back.
https://is.gd/ByzCJH
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 09:36 AM (L/fGl)
93OrangeEnt, Heinlein wrote that teaching a spouse to drive (paraphrasing) was a quick route to divorce. Of course, read that about 15 years after Dad taught Mom to drive - with 4 kids in the back of the station wagon. Spoiler: they did not divorce.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 07, 2025
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Didn't lead to the first one leaving, doubt it'll make the current one either. I'll just give her the basics, then see how much a driving school charges.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025
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I taught Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 to drive without difficulties. Our breakup didn't occur until five years later. Miss Linda refuses even to consider the idea of driving, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:36 AM (wzUl9)
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It must be a regional thing, selling books. I've never lived in a place where bookstores will buy your books. They usually offer exchanges or store credit. Too much snooping about sales to put them on ebay. Why do they think you need to calculate tax on a couple dollar sale?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:24 AM (uQesX)
They used to be all over the place around here when bookstores were plentiful.
The stores would buy the books from anybody, usually well-read paperbacks, and resale them for $1 to $5 depending on condition and popularity, I guess.
My mother read a lot of romance novels and she'd take them in by the garbage bag, sell them for whatever, and come back with a much smaller bag full of more to read.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 09:36 AM (6ydKt)
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88 . . . I do live in a nice, cosy 1924 bungalow. And yes, the candlestick phone in the second picture is real and it works.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025
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Just the kind of house I want -- though I'm willing to accept a 1940s through 1960s house too. And I'd like a classic 1950s-60s rotary phone, but the candlestick one is great too. Perfect for hanging a fedora on when you come back in from bad weather.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:35 AM (wzUl9)
House electrical wiring in homes pre-1940 are often a mess; paper-wrapped wiring doesn't stay paper-wrapped forever, you know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:37 AM (ynpvh)
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Gotta go - I signed up to bring chili (no carrots) to the church potluck, so I need to hit the kitchen. Have a good day.
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 09:37 AM (GALGA)
97
Wait, your WIFE can't drive???
Posted by: lin-duh
At a previous job, the company was bought out by a New York firm, and they sent down a team to help manage it. When the wives found out that groceries were not delivered to your home daily in Houston and they would need to learn to drive, the wives began a campaign to get out of town. I think the last ones to leave were less than a year later.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:37 AM (0U5gm)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
A bit late to the thread. We've been doing some cookie baking.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 09:38 AM (yTvNw)
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I am at least going to spend today reading David Yallop's The Day The Laughter Stopped to see whether recasting the book will work.
I think it's just the 'research' idea that's dauting me, though I like to research. Or, perhaps, I'm shooting myself in the foot by thinking I need to read all the Taylor books and not just one of them.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:38 AM (ufSfZ)
Does the cigarette carton have anything to do with the plot later on?
Not in the slightest. I'm going to research the image to see what she was yammering about.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 09:38 AM (p/isN)
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Characterization. Though he usually was able to characterize his heroines just as well in less space in earlier books.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:30 AM (wzUl9)
Maybe he'd just spent a few days with Tolkien before writing that chapter?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:39 AM (uQesX)
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I taught Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 to drive without difficulties. Our breakup didn't occur until five years later. Miss Linda refuses even to consider the idea of driving, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:36 AM (wzUl9)
So you'll be Driving Ms. Linda?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:39 AM (ynpvh)
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Here's a ni e library for those who like all things building from design to construction to interior decorating -
Depending on browser you may have to take out the line break.
Suggest you search by year. They have some old stuff in there.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 09:39 AM (/lPRQ)
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I taught Mrs. F. to drive manual and it was...trying.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 09:40 AM (m6HS6)
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>>Didn't lead to the first one leaving, doubt it'll make the current one either. I'll just give her the basics, then see how much a driving school charges.
I'll have to ask Mom, but I think Dad taught her and had her practicing at least 3 weeks in the summertime after dinner in the evening.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 07, 2025 09:40 AM (NcvvS)
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96 Gotta go - I signed up to bring chili (no carrots) to the church potluck, so I need to hit the kitchen. Have a good day.
Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 09:37 AM (GALGA)
Are you Lutheran? Will it be in a mold?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:40 AM (ynpvh)
107I think there were all kinds of legal go-rounds between Fleming, the producers, and actor Sean McClory (who had been involved in coming up with the story for Thunderball IIRC). Later the story was reworked for Never Say Never Again (which I thought was a lot more fun than Thunderball - YMMV).
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025
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Kevin McClory was the fellow who worked with Fleming on the treatment for TB, not the actor Sean. Maybe they were related?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:40 AM (wzUl9)
109I taught Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 to drive without difficulties. Our breakup didn't occur until five years later. Miss Linda refuses even to consider the idea of driving, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025
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So you'll be Driving Ms. Linda?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025
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Have been, for more years than she'd like me to tell you about.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:41 AM (wzUl9)
110And I'd like a classic 1950s-60s rotary phone, but the candlestick one is great too.
I don't know about your neck of the woods, but up north, you can usually find one or two in antique stores or large flea markets. Radio Shack used to sell easy conversion kits that allowed you to plug the phone into your regular jack, but I expect you can find the kits on eBay or Amazon.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:41 AM (ufSfZ)
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You just need to convey the mood of the times, you dont have to go into minutae youre just beating yourself over it admittedly i dont know the details of thr case
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 07, 2025 09:41 AM (bXbFr)
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I went to college at 17 and had only just gotten my license. then I stayed in the city thru college and grad school then worked at an agency for 15 years living in town
so yeah, in a way my husband DID teach me to drive even tho I'd had a license since 16 - re-teach me. I hope I was a good student!
right now I got some good books thru Libby - reading a semi-horror more fantastical anthology called "Get in Trouble" by Kelly Link. I just finished John Langan's fantastically creepy "The Fisherman" - I highly recommend. I have his "House of Windows" on my libby list now too.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 07, 2025 09:41 AM (emBoF)
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Where in the world do you shop for wives, OrangeENT?
* I keed, I keed
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 07, 2025 09:36 AM (h7ZuX)
Ask vmom....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:42 AM (uQesX)
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This past week I finished reading "Ascendant" (Song of Chaos Book 1) by Micheal R Miller. It's a recently-written dragonrider themed fantasy book, which tries to hit all the dragonrider tropes. Before I criticize it, I want to point out that I FINISHED the book. The last time I downloaded a recently-written fantasy novel, I bailed on it within the first couple pages, because it didn't feel like a fantasy. This book at least felt like it took place in a medeval fantasy land, and the prose and story flowed well.
That said, our main characters, both dragon and rider, have quite a bit of Mary Sue in them. In the early-going, the rider breaks all societal rules, and gets rewarded for it with a dragon. The middle of the book drags, as the author lays out all the mechanics of dragon-riding magic (he's obvious a fan of 'hard magic' systems) and then has our rider speed-run through training, figuring out every new task in a day or two. Oh, and the dragon, despite being blind, is super-unique and has never-been-seen-before powers.
But once we pass the training not-montage, the book does pick up significantly. There is a multi-chapter epic final battle, which was pretty satisfying..
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 07, 2025 09:43 AM (Lhaco)
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85 I'm listening to The Running Grave by Robert Galbraith, aka J. K. Rowling. I find I enjoy the language, its English, of course, but the phrasing and terminology for common things is quite different and I get a kick out of it.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 09:33 AM (VCgbV)
Rowling is very good at making up words and phrases.
The Harry Potter books are filled with them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 09:43 AM (6ydKt)
116 Is "Hitler at Home" a cookbook?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:07 AM (ynpvh)
...Hitler At Home is about his attempts, through architecture, to control his residential spaces and what that tells us about both his persona and the way he wanted to publicly present himself as Fuhrer.
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Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:20 AM (ufSfZ)
Rather apropos, I'm currently reading Gods Beasts: The Nazis the Occult, by Dusty Sklar. Published in 1977 (I believe it was reprinted in 1989 just as The Nazis and the Occult), the book examines the influence of paganism (particularly Nordic mythology and Hinduism) and the occult upon the German people both before and after WWI.
I'm only about half-way through, but the book really helps put Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP into perspective. He didn't rise to power in a vacuum: the Germans were already talking about a Messiah that was going to rejuvenate Germany before Hitler came on the scene.
An fairly short book (180 pages), it has an extensive bibliography. However, there is a lack of citations. Rating = 4.5/5.0
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (pJWtt)
117 Characterization. Though he usually was able to characterize his heroines just as well in less space in earlier books.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:30 AM (wzUl9)
Maybe he'd just spent a few days with Tolkien before writing that chapter?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025
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Could be! The anecdote is interesting and tells us a lot about Domino, but it could have been handled in a couple of paragraphs. I find TB to be relatively uninteresting because of Bond not operating on his own, which to me is the true JB form -- not with the help of half the U.S. Navy.
And TB has the business of Bond at the health farm -- though Fleming does tie that in with the main adventure.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (wzUl9)
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This week I've been reading an odd one: Hellstrom's Hive, by Frank Herbert.
Apparently it was inspired by a quasi-documentary film called The Hellstrom Chronicle, which features a fictional scientist named Nils Hellstrom talking about how insects will inherit the earth. It looks as though Frank Herbert decided to create the fictional backstory for that film.
In the novel, Hellstrom is one of the leaders of a human hive hidden under a farm in Oregon. His cover is that he makes documentaries about insects. The hive and its members are pretty old -- Herbert doesn't actually explain how it began, but there are offhand references to migrations so presumably Oregon is just the latest home.
The hive is pretty damned creepy -- though since it was written in 1972 the cover copy and the non-hive characters in the book are all pretty excited about the NONSTOP SEX! in the hive. There's also a superweapon because the hive has some dudes with giant heads so it's more advanced than the rest of the Earth.
(to be continued)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (78a2H)
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The town where my parents live has a Carnegie Library. Why they choose that town I don't know. It would have been a pretty rural area at the time. Still is, relatively.
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I seem to recall that Carnegie purposely built libraries in places where he felt the need was greatest, ie smaller towns.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:45 AM (0U5gm)
You're right. Kevin McClory. Not only are the eyes getting bad (to say nothing of the knees), but the memory is getting twitchy. Don't know if he's a relation, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Driving. Be happy, Orange Ent -- you could be trying to get me to drive. I don't either. Probably could in an emergency, but I probably hold the title for Most Nervous Dimbulb Ever To Take The Wheel. So I don't take the wheel, for which the entire planet should give thanks.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 09:45 AM (q3u5l)
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Good morning all.
Woke up this morning and realized that I am going on vacation in two weeks for the first time since cataract surgery and have no idea what books to line up. My IPad runs out of electrons after about 2 hours and have trouble reading it outside anyways. I can read paper books during the day but currently do not own any that I can travel with.
Upgrade IPad? Hit bookstore? Probably both?
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Part of my daily reading for the season is malcolm Guite's "Waiting on the Word: A poem a day for Advent, Christmas and Epiphany ". The poems include selections from Spenser, Donne, George Herbert, modern poets like Luci Shaw and many of his own poems. The poems range from delightful to profound and all are worth the time each day to contemplate the season. It has joined the ranks of traditional Christmas readings.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 09:46 AM (yTvNw)
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Apparently it was inspired by a quasi-documentary film called The Hellstrom Chronicle, which features a fictional scientist named Nils Hellstrom talking about how insects will inherit the earth.
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I saw that many the year ago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 09:47 AM (L/fGl)
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I guess being from Texas, I can't fathom not knowing how to drive. I find it curious that people don't/resist wanting to even learn. Of course, now you can get anything delivered to your house again and can call up an uber/lyft at any time.
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122 Part of my daily reading for the season is malcolm Guite's "Waiting on the Word: A poem a day for Advent, Christmas and Epiphany ". The poems include selections from Spenser, Donne, George Herbert, modern poets like Luci Shaw and many of his own poems. The poems range from delightful to profound and all are worth the time each day to contemplate the season. It has joined the ranks of traditional Christmas readings.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 09:46 AM (yTvNw)
It's good, but it ain't no gay cowboy poetry...
Posted by: Zombie Harry Reid at December 07, 2025 09:48 AM (ynpvh)
126
Sometimes flemings obsession with research overwhelms i noticed that with tarantino novelization of once upon a time
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 07, 2025 09:48 AM (bXbFr)
127
I taught Mrs. F. to drive manual and it was...trying.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 09:40 AM (m6HS6)
Well, San Francisco is a good place for it!
I worked on a Victorian renovation on Jones street, near the top, and that was fun! Parking my manual pickup was good practice.
128Just the kind of house I want -- though I'm willing to accept a 1940s through 1960s house too. And I'd like a classic 1950s-60s rotary phone, but the candlestick one is great too. Perfect for hanging a fedora on when you come back in from bad weather.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025
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House electrical wiring in homes pre-1940 are often a mess; paper-wrapped wiring doesn't stay paper-wrapped forever, you know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025
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Oh, I want one that has been modernized in all the important ways, like that and with air-conditioning. The earlier inhabitants would certainly have wanted that if they could have had it or afforded it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:48 AM (wzUl9)
129Rather apropos, I'm currently reading Gods Beasts: The Nazis the Occult, by Dusty Sklar. Published in 1977 (I believe it was reprinted in 1989 just as The Nazis and the Occult), the book examines the influence of paganism (particularly Nordic mythology and Hinduism) and the occult upon the German people both before and after WWI.
I'm only about half-way through, but the book really helps put Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP into perspective. He didn't rise to power in a vacuum: the Germans were already talking about a Messiah that was going to rejuvenate Germany before Hitler came on the scene.
That sounds very similar to 1985s The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence On Nazi Ideology, by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke. It has extensive notes and bibliography and is definitely for the serious reader.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:49 AM (ufSfZ)
I read the first book in the Master Mercurius Mystery Series, Death In Delft, and have begun the second, Untrue Till Death. Master Mercurius is not only an undercover Catholic in protestant 17th century Holland, he's an undercover Catholic priest disguised as a protestant minister. Or maybe vice versa since he was a minister first but became disillusioned with predestination preferring the freedom offered by Catholicism in that man's acts can influence his fate. He's also an introspective somewhat smart ass gifted with a certain amount of intelligence. As such, when three young girls go missing in Delft, he is sent to investigate.
I liked this historical book because it puts you the 17th century with 17th century attitudes with one possible exception. Although he is not a fanatic, he disfavors capital punishment even where, as here, an eight year old is dead. Mercurius takes his religion(s) seriously and questions where his duty lies. He is particularly concerned with honesty, rather ironic given his undercover priest status. I liked this book also because it's an interesting, emotional, well written story.
SPOILER ALERT!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 09:49 AM (L/fGl)
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Are you Lutheran? Will it be in a mold?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:40 AM (ynpvh)
Only lime jello with cottage cheese goes in a mold.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:49 AM (uQesX)
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I find it curious that people don't/resist wanting to even learn.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 09:47 AM (VCgbV)
Driving is freedom. City folk don't understand that!
When Mercurius discovers the rather sympathetic perpetrator, his dislike of capital punishment causes him to return the girls but let the perpetrator escape and, perhaps doesn't exactly lie but definitely doesn't tell the whole truth and leaves an impression that he knows to be inaccurate. So much for honesty.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 09:50 AM (L/fGl)
134 Read "Cold Storage" a horror novel by David Koepp, the movie script guy.
In theory, there's a movie coming out about it at some date.
I didn't hate it, but I was kinda tired of the whole thing before I reached the end. He really undercuts his hour in an effort, I think, top keep the potential movies budget down.
Anywho, it involves our old pal, the fungus Cordyseps, what is taking over humans now.
CS starts out as Dollar Store "Andromeda Strain" almost directly stealing the opening scene from that classic.
Then it turns into, TEMU Stephen King with all of his faults and little of his propulsive writing.
Finally, it morphs into Roadside Fruit Stand George A Romero.
If they actually make this into a movie, I can't see them keeping much of the original story. The stakes are potentially high, but rather boringly presented.
Though it does get a goodly amount of good reviews.
Check it out if you wish to see what happens when a Hollywood script writer tackles a novel.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 09:50 AM (iJfKG)
I went to school in a town that purportedly is the smallest burg in the U.S. to have a Carnegie Library. A delegation from the town pitched the idea to Andrew Carnegie, and he approved it.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 09:51 AM (p/isN)
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Driving is freedom. City folk don't understand that!
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Orange ent,
How long has she been here?
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 09:40 AM (VCgbV)
2008, but she worked for the deputy consul in SF until 2011. Didn't start working until kid started school, and I worked grave, so she didn't need to drive while my parents were still here. Now, she needs to because I'm getting tired.
The first one didn't drive because her father was a colonel in the army and he had drivers. They also had maids for everyone.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:52 AM (uQesX)
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Huh. I just ran into a word I had never read before.
'deracinated'- uprooted from one's natural geographical, social, or cultural environment:
"a deracinated writer who has complicated relations with his working-class background"
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 07, 2025 09:52 AM (bss/y)
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128 Just the kind of house I want -- though I'm willing to accept a 1940s through 1960s house too. And I'd like a classic 1950s-60s rotary phone, but the candlestick one is great too. Perfect for hanging a fedora on when you come back in from bad weather.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025
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House electrical wiring in homes pre-1940 are often a mess; paper-wrapped wiring doesn't stay paper-wrapped forever, you know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025
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Oh, I want one that has been modernized in all the important ways, like that and with air-conditioning. The earlier inhabitants would certainly have wanted that if they could have had it or afforded it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 09:48 AM (wzUl9)
Insulation is often missing or a mess too. Yeah, old homes often need LOTS of upgrading.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:52 AM (ynpvh)
140
I learned to drive when I was about 12 by backing boat trailers down the ramp for my father. I still get a laugh watching people who can't even back a sedan properly. At the oil company I worked for, all parking was backed in for safety, and walking across the parking lot, would see people making multiple efforts to get into a space properly.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 09:53 AM (0U5gm)
Opposing the Hive in the novel is an unnamed government agency, and Frank Herbert deliberately goes out of his way to make the Feds as unpleasant as possible, full of personal feuds, bureaucratic infighting, and some genuine totalitarian tendencies. The reader is left without anyone to "root for" which may explain the book's lackluster sales considering it was by the author of DUNE. I think Herbert was trying to depict the agency as kind of a rival hive of its own, just one without NONSTOP SEX! like Hellstrom's.
The book has all of Frank Herbert's strengths and weaknesses on display. The science is (for its time) solid, and the characters are vivid and well-drawn, if not especially likeable. It does have all his stylistic quirks -- lots of people's internal mental monologs, the viewpoint jumping from character to character within a scene, a touch of woo about evolution leading to some goal.
Worth a look -- I don't know if it's in print any more. I got my copy from a giveaway pile at a science fiction convention a while back.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2025 09:54 AM (78a2H)
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Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (pJWtt)
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See any number of works authored by Alfred Rosenberg or Houston Stewart Chamberlain, especially The Myth of the Twentieth Century
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 09:54 AM (m6HS6)
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Here to recommend Chris Pavone's "The Expats," me about 60 percent into it.
Two couples meet in Luxembourgh, American expats, and all are leading double lives. One is a trained assassin.
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 07, 2025 09:54 AM (KiBMU)
145
All three of my kids got their licenses within days of turning 16, given a car, and turned loose on the world. The spawn will travel 45 minutes, two towns over, just to go to the new "dirty" soda shop, on a whim.
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Took Driver's Ed in high school as it was required then in Chicago. Didn't care for it, but managed not to kill anyone when I was behind the wheel. By then I was used to walking or taking the bus everywhere. When we moved to our current digs far from Chicago and needed a car, I was used to walking or bicycling, and found I couldn't relax behind the wheel -- once I was moving at speeds over my usual max on the bicycle I didn't feel in control at all. Fortunately Mrs Some Guy likes driving. Not real crazy about that state of affairs, but there it is.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 09:55 AM (q3u5l)
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When my daughters were learning to drive, there was, probably still is, a requirement that they drive 50 hours with me before they can take the test. It was a great time. We drove all over Hell and back talking and listening to music and usually stopped at our arbitrary destination for a bite before heading home.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 09:55 AM (L/fGl)
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I think Herbert was trying to depict the agency as kind of a rival hive of its own, just one without NONSTOP SEX! like Hellstrom's.
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Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2025 09:54 AM (78a2H)
Yes, go on...
Posted by: Peter, Strzoking Himself at December 07, 2025 09:56 AM (ynpvh)
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It must be a regional thing, selling books. I've never lived in a place where bookstores will buy your books. They usually offer exchanges or store credit. Too much snooping about sales to put them on ebay. Why do they think you need to calculate tax on a couple dollar sale?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:24 AM (uQesX)
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I live in a college town. Selling books is (or was) an annual event. I guess some texts are digital now.
Usually one can get more credit than money, but money is still on offer.
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oh my gosh Shy Lurking Voter, you haven't even got to the best bits yet (must! not! give! spoilers! aaahh!) ... and there's a second one (Welcome to the Jungle) that just dropped last month, haven't finished it yet.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 07, 2025 09:56 AM (Cjt/F)
On the comic-reading front, I finished "Conan the Barbarian Omnibus 10," containing issues 241-275. This volume features the return of Roy Thomas as the series writer. Roy Thomas was the guy who first brought Conan to comics, and had written the first 115 issues of the series. His return was most welcome! Although it was sometimes awkward, as he often referenced stories from his first run (more than a decade in the past) and ignored most of what had happened between.
However, it was hard to read any of the book without feeling a tinge of sadness; this is the final book in the series, as the comic was cancelled with 275. While Roy's stories were mostly great, the decade of stories before him were mostly not, had de-valued Conan as a comic character, and made him feel pretty generic. Also, the comic was no longer getting the best artists. Not terrible artists, but not John Buscema. Finally, the series ended in 1993. Marvel was getting out of the licensed-character game at that point. And they were probably starting to make the bad decisions that led to their 1996 bankruptcy...
In sum, it was a fun read, but bittersweet.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 07, 2025 09:58 AM (Lhaco)
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Well, I'm off to other stuff. Have a blessed day ,folks.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:58 AM (ynpvh)
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Did not do a lot of reading this week. Still working on Zelazny #7 Blood of Amber. It is slow going just because of the sheer size of the book which is in a book which contains all 10 books in the series.
I would again recommend The Original by Brandon Sanderson and Mary Kowal. It is short but really good sci fi. Reads like a movie. Terrific world building.
156 I saw that many the year ago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 09:47 AM (L/fGl)
Yes, Hellstrom - I forgot all about that one!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 10:00 AM (c7Ygk)
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I taught my kids to drive manual transmissions, which is how most of my vehicles are. Not only is it a modern anti-theft device, but it makes them concentrate on driving more, and virtually eliminates them letting other kids drive the vehicle.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:01 AM (0U5gm)
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The other thing I've been doing this past week is trying to figure out what to _write_ next.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2025 10:01 AM (78a2H)
I read "Cold Storage" a few years ago. It was recommended in a Book Thread. All the time I kept envisioning the sets for the movie. I enjoyed it, and I'm waiting for the movie.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 10:01 AM (p/isN)
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House electrical wiring in homes pre-1940 are often a mess; paper-wrapped wiring doesn't stay paper-wrapped forever, you know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:37 AM (ynpvh)
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Our previous home was built in 1917 as a kit house and portions of it retained the original knob-and-wire electrical. We had an issue, and the electrician took one look at it and refused to so much as touch it. The part with the fault was modern, so it was fixable.
Rereading a novel by Mackinley Kantor, Andersonville. One of my relatives, Philander R., fought in some of the major battles in the Civil War plus a stint in A'ville near the end of the War, when it was at it's most awful.
Philander was a badass for certain, wounded a few times and coming out well medalled.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 07, 2025 10:01 AM (vFbHf)
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I've been reading The Autobiography of Malcom X this week. I'm about halfway through. I have thoughts. I'll report next week after I'm finished.
"The Hellstrom Chronicle: Directed by Walon Green, Ed Spiegel. With Lawrence Pressman, Conlan Carter, Ian McShane, Suzanne Pleshette. A scientist explains how the savagery and efficiency of the insect world could result in their taking over the world.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:02 AM (L/fGl)
164 I learned to drive when I was about 12 by backing boat trailers down the ramp for my father. I still get a laugh watching people who can't even back a sedan properly. At the oil company I worked for, all parking was backed in for safety, and walking across the parking lot, would see people making multiple efforts to get into a space properly.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025
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I learned to back vehicles when I was with the courier company, only two years after I got my license. Parking an Econoline 150 van with only mirrors and smallish back door glass is a challenge at first.
I still park that way when I can. Though, even using the lines provided in the Buick's rear view camera, I often end up with the car a little crooked in the slot.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:02 AM (wzUl9)
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Yes, real men build libraries. Even as I pare down the number of books I own, mostly casual fiction I'll never reread, I'm aware of the value of the books I keep, which is still a huge number. Part of my consideration when buying a book is if it will add to the knowledge I think is important to preserve: practical skills, poetry and literature, philosophy, history, fiction that delights, excites, and makes you think, etc.
In the back of each decision is would the book be of value to pass along when I'm gone. Younger family members have already asked to be included in that distribution even if it, hopefully, takes a long time. Glad they are willing to wait.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 10:02 AM (yTvNw)
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Usually one can get more credit than money, but money is still on offer.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 07, 2025 09:56 AM (ZOv7s)
Of course, I wasn't including school bookstores in it. That was the only place I ever received money back from a bought book, the campus bookstore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 10:03 AM (uQesX)
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My youngest is burning through Lord of the Rings. We read it as a family some years ago, but she admitted that she mostly skimmed it because it felt like a school assignment and she knew she could bluff her way through the final exam.
She's now digging deep into it, and changing her view on the Peter Jackson movies, from loving them to realizing their many flaws.
168Rather apropos, I'm currently reading Gods Beasts: The Nazis the Occult, by Dusty Sklar. Published in 1977 ..., the book examines the influence of paganism (particularly Nordic mythology and Hinduism) and the occult upon the German people both before and after WWI.
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That sounds very similar to 1985s The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence On Nazi Ideology, by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke. ..
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:49 AM (ufSfZ)
Dusty Sklar's book is definitely for the general reader. I don't doubt her quotations, but citations would have been nice.
For example, she makes a casual, almost throw-away, comment about the Gospel of John being regarded by Biblical scholars as a Gnostic gospel. I suspect she meant 19th C. German Biblical scholars but I'm not certain.
This was in connection with a large banner featuring Adolf Hitler's portrait with a quotation from John, "In the beginning was the Word." If the Gospel of John was Gnostic, that would neatly side-step the "Jewishness" of the Synoptic Gospels.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 10:03 AM (pJWtt)
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Lately I’ve been into Irish crime fiction, the latest being he first in the Ed Loy detective series called The Wrong Kind of Blood by Declan Hughes. I highly recommend it.
Posted by: GeoNC at December 07, 2025 10:03 AM (wOaji)
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Driving is freedom. City folk don't understand that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 09:50 AM (n9ltV)
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They have successfully transformed private vehicles and drivers into pseudo-criminals here.
Closed roads, closed lanes, no turns, removed parking, speed "cushions"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 10:03 AM (m6HS6)
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I still park that way when I can. Though, even using the lines provided in the Buick's rear view camera, I often end up with the car a little crooked in the slot.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
When I back in, I roll down the window and put my head out. People ask me, "why don't you use the camera?" and I tell them it just doesn't look right that way. I guess I am too set in my ways.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:04 AM (0U5gm)
I may have completed all 10 Conan the Barbarian omnibuses, but there's still more to read. There are still some Savage Sword of Conan (a black-and-white sister series that was 'unrated') omnibuses to read, and half of that series has yet to be reprinted in omnibus form. Plus some King Conan omnibuses, written when the comics were in their prime, but taking place later in Conan's life.
Plus, I can also focus on the currently-running rebooted Conan comic. I haven't heard anything bad about that series. Plus, it's written by Jim Zub. He doesn't wear his politics on his sleave, but he sat for an interview with the Midnight's Edge YouTube channel, so he's definitely doesn't have the hate-the-audience mentality that most creatives have...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 07, 2025 10:05 AM (Lhaco)
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Orange ent,
Ah, I see. My dad's second wife was from where your wife is from. Retire Air Force so I've been around a bit growing up.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 09:58 AM (VCgbV)
I always thought it was weird, as well. It used to be only people from NYC didn't drive.
Got my license at 16. Driving ever since. Until you know someone from other countries, you think everyone drives, but the poor in the RP don't because they have no money.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 10:06 AM (uQesX)
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City folk and driving . . . I always loved Woody Allen's observation (in Annie Hall?) that, despite his friends' exhortations, he refused to move from NYC to LA. "I refuse to move to a city where the only cultural advantage is being able to make a right turn on a red light."
I thought the line was funny, and just meant that driving for an LA dweller was considered super-important, not for an NYC person. In 1998, visiting NYC, I found that it was literally true: A driver is not permitted to turn right on red after a stop. (It's the only way a pedestrian there would ever have a chance to cross a street.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:07 AM (wzUl9)
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Of course, I wasn't including school bookstores in it. That was the only place I ever received money back from a bought book, the campus bookstore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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My oldest is a freshman in college. Engineering School... not a single Physical textbook. I told him if it was an option always get a physical copy since you can sell it back. Apparently, everything is digital now.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:08 AM (L/fGl)
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Good morning, fellow bibliophages. Woke up to see snow gently falling outside.
MP4, thanks for (re)posting photos of your book collection for my voyeuristic pleasure. And I love that your DVD collection has Pola Negri and "Häxan" cheek by jowl with Kolchak and Star Trek. I'd never leave the library.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:08 AM (kpS4V)
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Good morning, Professor! *puts a walnut on desk instead of an apple*
I gave up trying to keep up with my online book club. Even before my energy level crashed, I put books down and returned them without finishing them. I read a little in the evening, an Advent essay and a chapter or two.
In my continuing quest for to read award-winners, I picked Beverly Cleary's Ramona Quimby, Age 8. (Newbury Award) I vaguely remember reading her books about Henry Huggins and his dog Ribsy.
There's a forward in Henry Huggins. Cleary explained that she wrote it because of a dilemma she'd had as a librarian. She was helping boys select books and found the best she could do was dog stories, "which they found acceptable if the dog did not die at the end". The boys were from modest homes and had ordinary lives, so that is what she wrote about.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 10:08 AM (Io7m1)
179When I back in, I roll down the window and put my head out. People ask me, "why don't you use the camera?" and I tell them it just doesn't look right that way. I guess I am too set in my ways.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025
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I do use the mirrors as much as the camera. But I tend to line the car up with the vehicle parked on my left, and if he is parked crooked, the Buick winds up that way too. Still within the painted lines, but noticeably off.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:09 AM (wzUl9)
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121 Good morning all.
Woke up this morning and realized that I am going on vacation in two weeks for the first time since cataract surgery and have no idea what books to line up. My IPad runs out of electrons after about 2 hours and have trouble reading it outside anyways. I can read paper books during the day but currently do not own any that I can travel with.
Upgrade IPad? Hit bookstore? Probably both?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 07, 2025 09:46 AM (t/2Uw)
If you use the iPad for mostly reading you might like a Kindle Paperwhite more. They are much easier on the eyes for reading and due to the type of screen used, a lot easier to read outside in sunlight.
https://shorturl.at/AmZeA
(Amazon)
If you're using the iPad for more than that, than an upgrade will possibly get you more battery life and better screen brightness depending on how old yours is.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 10:09 AM (6ydKt)
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Woke up this morning and realized that I am going on vacation in two weeks for the first time since cataract surgery and have no idea what books to line up. My IPad runs out of electrons after about 2 hours and have trouble reading it outside anyways. I can read paper books during the day but currently do not own any that I can travel with.
Upgrade IPad? Hit bookstore? Probably both?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
You might like Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:11 AM (0U5gm)
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Of course, I wasn't including school bookstores in it. That was the only place I ever received money back from a bought book, the campus bookstore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 10:03 AM (uQesX)
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I wasn't referring to those, either. But their presence also provides considerable fodder for used book stores, particularly in literature. Even the chain book stores buy used and pay cash.
My point is that it is part of the local culture that you can get cash for books.
184They have successfully transformed private vehicles and drivers into pseudo-criminals here.
Closed roads, closed lanes, no turns, removed parking, speed "cushions"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025
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And paying to park -- the city proper has live meters even on Saturdays. it's part of why I prefer the suburbs, and love to make a road trip jaunt to someplace far out of town.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
185"The Hellstrom Chronicle: Directed by Walon Green, Ed Spiegel. With Lawrence Pressman, Conlan Carter, Ian McShane, Suzanne Pleshette. A scientist explains how the savagery and efficiency of the insect world could result in their taking over the world.
So, basically, Empire Of The Ants.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 10:11 AM (ufSfZ)
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I always back in when possible and I drive a suburban. All my kids were taught in it and hubby's crew cab, full length bed truck, so they can drive big vehicles..
187You might like Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025
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The one I have here, The Twist of the Knife, is part of that series.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:12 AM (wzUl9)
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The boys were from modest homes and had ordinary lives, so that is what she wrote about.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 10:08 AM (Io7m1)
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I read them a little early but Henry Higgins led a life that I could barely comprehend.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 10:13 AM (m6HS6)
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I will add that Walls of Men got a major boost by the fact that a retired professor in the history department decided to sell off his library of Chinese books, many of whom would have been all but impossible to track down.
Once the book store owner learned of my interest, he expedited placing them on the shelves since he knew they would sell. It's packed with crazy liberals, but I love this town.
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When I back in, I roll down the window and put my head out. People ask me, "why don't you use the camera?" and I tell them it just doesn't look right that way. I guess I am too set in my ways.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:04 AM (0U5gm)
My current car has a feature that makes me want to punch someone. When I put it in reverse, the side mirrors tilt downward. I guess it's to check for obstacles on the ground? But the result is, I can't see obstacles to the side, like the vehicles I'm parking between, or posts and the like.
It's especially unhelpful when backing into an inclined driveway in the dark.
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In honor iof MP4's Reich-rich stacks, here's "Springtime for Hitler":
https://tinyurl.com/ek7nnmjw
"Heil myse-e-e-elf!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:14 AM (kpS4V)
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It's Sunday December 7th and there's a nip in the air!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 07, 2025 10:15 AM (Kt19C)
194For example, she makes a casual, almost throw-away, comment about the Gospel of John being regarded by Biblical scholars as a Gnostic gospel. I suspect she meant 19th C. German Biblical scholars but I'm not certain.
This was in connection with a large banner featuring Adolf Hitler's portrait with a quotation from John, "In the beginning was the Word." If the Gospel of John was Gnostic, that would neatly side-step the "Jewishness" of the Synoptic Gospels.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 10:03 AM (pJWtt)
I've never come across a Gnostic interpretation of John, although I'm in no way an expert. As far as "In The Beginning Was The Word," I have never seen it connected to John explicitly - I believe the artist Herman Hoyer used that quote simply because he was showing Hitler haranguing a small crowd, referencing the Party's early days when Hitler's only weapon was his mouth.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 10:15 AM (ufSfZ)
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When it comes to modern trends for anything, especially reading, my natural curmudgeon attitude really helps me avoid getting caught up in such stupid, transitory crap. Those 'I read [X number] of books in a month' videos are a symptom of those trends. I can understand getting excited about a book series or topic but speed reading, especially as a competition, denies the pleasure of reading and the knowledge that can be garnered. Since I don't give a hoot in hell about those people or their 'contests', fashion statements, or whatever they claim is important, (it's not) I can go my own way without the distractions.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 10:15 AM (yTvNw)
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My current car has a feature that makes me want to punch someone. When I put it in reverse, the side mirrors tilt downward. I guess it's to check for obstacles on the ground? But the result is, I can't see obstacles to the side, like the vehicles I'm parking between, or posts and the like.
It's especially unhelpful when backing into an inclined driveway in the dark.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs
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You can change that in the settings.
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Not only do I not read competitively, I don't understand why any one would. Seems kind of self defeating to read for any other reason than that the book seems interesting. So I'm to learn and for enjoyment. That's enough. I do keep track of what I read and every year it's from 30-50 books.
I'm still reading Terry Teachout's Louis Armstrong bio and started Adam Bede. Adam Bede looks like a long on and may last the rest of the year. I've been working through Plutarch's parallel lives as well and just finished Cato the Younger. He may have had the most interesting life albeit in a losing cause.
Posted by: who knew at December 07, 2025 10:16 AM (+ViXu)
199 If the Gospel of John was Gnostic, that would neatly side-step the "Jewishness" of the Synoptic Gospels.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025
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Refresh my memory here. Are they called "Synoptic" because they narrate pretty much the same story -- the events were "seen together," as it were, by the writers?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:16 AM (wzUl9)
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My IPad runs out of electrons after about 2 hours and have trouble reading it outside anyways.
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Kindle Paper Whites are fairly cheap, maybe $150, and can be read in full sunlight. Battery life is, I don't know, 10 -12 hours.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:17 AM (L/fGl)
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Never have much cared to keep a count of the books I read.
I'm reminded of a Woody Allen comment re speed-reading. Something like: "I read War and Peace over lunch yesterday afternoon. It's about Russia, isn't it?"
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 10:17 AM (q3u5l)
202It's Sunday December 7th and there's a nip in the air!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 07, 2025
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Eighty-four years ago, there were a lot more than just one!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:17 AM (wzUl9)
203MP4, thanks for (re)posting photos of your book collection for my voyeuristic pleasure. And I love that your DVD collection has Pola Negri and "Häxan" cheek by jowl with Kolchak and Star Trek. I'd never leave the library.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:08 AM (kpS4V)
You're welcome, dear lady. You're welcome to visit any time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 10:18 AM (ufSfZ)
204They have successfully transformed private vehicles and drivers into pseudo-criminals here.
Closed roads, closed lanes, no turns, removed parking, speed "cushions"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025
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And paying to park -- the city proper has live meters even on Saturdays. it's part of why I prefer the suburbs, and love to make a road trip jaunt to someplace far out of town.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
The madness has even spread to my suburban city is SW Ohio. In their infinite wisdom, the city gov't has narrowed a main street from five lanes (there was a dedicated center turn lane) down to three: all to make room for a very wide bike lane.
The bike lane is separated from vehicular traffic by narrow plastic "sticks" glued to the road surface. This neatly prevents the electric company from getting easy access to the power poles.
Every I time I drive this road, I rant to Mrs. Cop about the stupidity and cost (I assume grant money was used to fund this boondoggle).
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 10:18 AM (pJWtt)
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>>Some authors are able to continue a previous author's works if they are able to capture the spirit of the previous author. Not every author is successful at this.
Correct, not every author is successful at that. Take Lee Child's woketard brother, Andrew, as an example.
And don't give me that whole "he was brought in only as a co-writer on the Jack Reacher series" business. No he wasn't. Andrew took over sole writing of the series when Lee left it to him to pursue other monetary interests involving the Reacher saga.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 07, 2025 10:18 AM (Y1sOo)
206My current car has a feature that makes me want to punch someone. When I put it in reverse, the side mirrors tilt downward. I guess it's to check for obstacles on the ground? But the result is, I can't see obstacles to the side, like the vehicles I'm parking between, or posts and the like.
It's especially unhelpful when backing into an inclined driveway in the dark.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs
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I think I had that in the BMW 3 Series. It was a setting you could turn off, and I did, but I found it useful *sometimes.*
The BMW also had a setting that folded the mirror housings inward when you parked, so they wouldn't get whacked off easily by a bicyclist.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:19 AM (wzUl9)
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You can change that in the settings.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 10:15 AM (VCgbV)
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"I have a vision of AH Lloyd's books perfectly straight on the shelves, quaking with fear as he does the morning inspection."
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Dog ear! Give me twenty!
Torn dust jacket! Two weeks KP!
HIGHLIGHTING?!? How the Hell did you even get into my beloved Corps?
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 07, 2025 10:20 AM (5YmYl)
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50 Anybody read "Morning Glory Milking Farm". LOL. I certainly haven't and won't...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (ynpvh)
Most certainly not...
But your comment did put me in mind of a YouTube video; Greg Owen recently posted a long video that did a deep-dive into some of the more-reputable Romantasy books. (Well, slightly more-reputable, one of the books was placed in a haz-mat bag whenever Greg was holding it). Greg isn't a book-tuber, but he was looking into why Strong Female Characters are starring in best-selling fantasy novels but are failing and utterly destroying franchises in tv and movies. He has some interesting things to say... He didn't convince me to read A Court of Thorns and Roses anytime soon, but maybe I won't be as dismissive to it...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 07, 2025 10:21 AM (Lhaco)
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Somebody with more literary talent than me should write a book: "Europe 2050".
Mark Steyn raised the alarm about the impending Islamization of Europe twenty-five years ago, and was proven to be absolutely correct - what will happen in the next twenty-five years?
In many big cities in Western and Central Europe, a substantial fraction of the school children are Muslim, and you have the European elites are frantically imposing political and speech controls to keep the indigenous inhabitants of Europe from effectively opposing the ongoing social changes.
Michel Houellebecq wrote "Submission" ten years ago, but there really hasn't been anything since then.
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Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 10:21 AM (xTIDn)
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When I was young, I had the disgusting habit of dogearing books. Now, I find it abhorrent.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:22 AM (0U5gm)
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I can't say I have a library, but I've got plenty of bookshelves. The main ones are in my living room and entirely cover one wall. I might have to start culling those as what I've got more books on the TBR than will fit. Nothing goes on the shelf until it's been read. I've got a second bookshelf in the spare room/den that is dedicated to books by Wisconsin writers or about Wisconsin (preferably both) and a third lawyers bookcase full of 'collector' books (various first editions I stumbled on at used book sales, Churchill's 6 volume WWII, Sandburg's ? volume Life of Lincoln and others)
Posted by: who knew at December 07, 2025 10:23 AM (+ViXu)
213Refresh my memory here. Are they called "Synoptic" because they narrate pretty much the same story -- the events were "seen together," as it were, by the writers?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:16 AM (wzUl9)
Yes, each is giving a 'synopsis' of the same story.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 10:24 AM (ufSfZ)
214If the Gospel of John was Gnostic, that would neatly side-step the "Jewishness" of the Synoptic Gospels.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025
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Refresh my memory here. Are they called "Synoptic" because they narrate pretty much the same story -- the events were "seen together," as it were, by the writers?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:16 AM (wzUl9)
Yes, the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke seem to be based on a common oral source. (I don't hold with the idea of a lost document - called "Q" - as the basis). Mark and Luke were essentially the secretaries for Saints Peter and Paul, respectively, and were recording what they heard preached.
We moderns underestimate the importance of oral traditions. In a world where the majority of people are illiterate, stories are going to be recited by trained people with excellent memories.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 10:24 AM (pJWtt)
215 You can change that in the settings.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 10:15 AM (VCgbV)
I can??
*scurries off to read the manual
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 07, 2025
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Most modern gadgety features can be turned off. However, one reason I refused to buy a 2017 Buick LaCrosse in '19, though the asking price was almost the same as my '16 and I loved the car's look, was that the auto stop-start could *not* be turned off. My '16 doesn't have it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:24 AM (wzUl9)
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When I ask 20 or even 30-somethings if they’ve read this or that classic and they say ‘no’ that makes me sad.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 10:24 AM (DXbAa)
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198 Not only do I not read competitively, I don't understand why any one would.
Posted by: who knew at December 07, 2025 10:16 AM (+ViXu)
If competition is getting youngsters to turn off tiktok for a while and pick up a book, I'm ok with it. They will inevitably find things that interest them, and set them on a quest for more books that interest them. It's all right.
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When Morning Glory etc was mentioned some weeks back, I looked at the description on Amazon (on an incognito window -- hate to think what recommendations would look like otherwise). Blecch. What was really scary to me, though, was that this thing had IIRC something like 20K ratings and reviews.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 10:25 AM (q3u5l)
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and a third lawyers bookcase full of 'collector' books (various first editions I stumbled on at used book sales, Churchill's 6 volume WWII, Sandburg's ? volume Life of Lincoln and others)
Posted by: who knew
Every once in awhile, I take a look at the expensive books on Abe Books or similar, and see a book on the list that I found somewhere cheap that is going for $200 or more.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:26 AM (0U5gm)
220When I ask 20 or even 30-somethings if they’ve read this or that classic and they say ‘no’ that makes me sad.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025
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Even aspiring writers. At an SF convention in the '80s, I found fans who hated the downbeat-but-heroic ending of Heinlein's The Cat Who Walks Through Walls, even the wannabe writers, had never read Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls and didn't understand what Heinlein was doing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:27 AM (wzUl9)
221The madness has even spread to my suburban city is SW Ohio. In their infinite wisdom, the city gov't has narrowed a main street from five lanes (there was a dedicated center turn lane) down to three: all to make room for a very wide bike lane.
The point of bike lanes on major arterials is to impede traffic and force people onto bikes and mass transit.
There is a major street in Portland (that serves as the main street for the Asian community in Portland) that the city government intends to cut from four car lanes to two, with one lane reserved for bikes and the bus that comes by once every fifteen minutes.
The only thing giving the city government pause is the certainty that this street will be gridlocked for most of the hours of the day, and there might be a political reaction to that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 10:29 AM (xTIDn)
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>>It's packed with crazy liberals, but I love this town.
East Landfill?
Great place to attend college as long as you avoided doing anything to attract the attention of the local police.
But you couldn't pay me to live there post graduation.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 07, 2025 10:29 AM (Y1sOo)
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They put in raised concrete medians for the first time on a road I frequently travel, because the idiots running the county decided that opening up permitting for a huge new development of tens of thousands of new homes was a better idea than worrying about the traffic situation.
So now I have to make u-turns where I used to be able to pull into a median to make a left turn but I can't do that now because of the huge increase in traffic and the occasional idiot who makes a left turn right into another vehicle they should have seen coming.
Here's an idea; build the roads to handle the traffic first and then worry about building new subdivisions to add to that traffic afterwards.
But there's no money in that for the county, so here we are.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 10:30 AM (6ydKt)
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I've assembled a few books that have become traditional Christmas season reading besides the Malcolm Guite book mentioned above. A Golden Christmas by William Gilmore Simms (all his books are worth reading), Washington Irving's Old Christmas, and The Christmas Cantata by Mark Schweizer (part of his Liturgical Mysteries series). They are rather short reads but really help set a pleasant seasonal mood.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 10:32 AM (yTvNw)
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For example, I found and purchased the first edition of A History of the English Speaking Peoples by Winston Churchill in pristine condition; $20 for all four. The pages are still immaculate.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:32 AM (0U5gm)
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Europe 2050 would be an interesting read, and probably depressing as hell. Not sure it needs to be written, though -- can probably get the gist of it just looking at the news these days.
* Imagines that something like Islam would arise in any intelligent species and ultimately lead to its stagnation, thus answering the old SETI question of Where Is Everybody *
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 10:33 AM (q3u5l)
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"Cold Storage"... Anywho, it involves our old pal, the fungus Cordyseps, what is taking over humans now...
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Sounds like the same plot as "The Girl with All the Gifts", an excellent book that was made into a terrible movie (because the director race-swapped the two main characters and turned it into an SJW message movie).
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 07, 2025 10:34 AM (5YmYl)
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Happy Valley has gone traffic circle mad and my daughter is fit to be tied. She has always turned left from her street onto the highway to get to work BUT NO!!! Now she has to turn right, drive maybe two blocks, and navigate the new traffic circle to get turned around and headed toward work.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:37 AM (L/fGl)
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City planning was a solved problem two thousand years ago, but modern developers and planning commissions keep un-solving it.
Local governments have a weird phobia about new road construction. They'll widen an existing road to absurd proportions rather than build a parallel artery to handle increased traffic -- with the result that eventually they have to spend insane sums to build the parallel artery anyway, only now the route is all built up and must be eminent-domained and bulldozed.
Meanwhile developers hate the idea of "wasting" land area on extra roads, so they create these structures of endless branching ending in cul-de-sacs rather than a F*****G GRID THE WAY THE F*****G BABYLONIANS DID IT.
A "safety" based legal requirement that every dwelling should be reachable by emergency vehicles over two non-overlapping routes would go a long way toward fixing that, and then the grid would allow better circulation which would mean the main roads wouldn't have to keep being widened.
But that wouldn't be utterly retarded so we don't do it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2025 10:37 AM (78a2H)
230Europe 2050 would be an interesting read, and probably depressing as hell. Not sure it needs to be written, though -- can probably get the gist of it just looking at the news these days.
But what happens if this goes on for another twenty-five years?
Steyn notes that twenty-five years ago, it would have been possible to stop things by blocking mass immigration, but there are now so many young Muslims in the big Western and Central European cities that the social changes will occur even in even if immigration is sharply reduced.
Interestingly, Trump's new defense policy posture paper acknowledges that, which is why the EU-types are screaming.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 10:37 AM (xTIDn)
231Happy Valley has gone traffic circle mad and my daughter is fit to be tied. She has always turned left from her street onto the highway to get to work BUT NO!!! Now she has to turn right, drive maybe two blocks, and navigate the new traffic circle to get turned around and headed toward work.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025
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Diagnosis: too many damned people. Cure? Unknown.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:38 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: callsign claymore at December 07, 2025 10:38 AM (E7tow)
233
Thanks for the advice. Got to figure this out this week while trying to finish Hannukah shopping due to early party. Sigh. I will be happy when January arrives and normal,life resumes.
I don't know if it is due to being 29 but so,etimes things seem a bit overwhelming..
234
There's a forward in Henry Huggins. Cleary explained that she wrote it because of a dilemma she'd had as a librarian. She was helping boys select books and found the best she could do was dog stories, "which they found acceptable if the dog did not die at the end". The boys were from modest homes and had ordinary lives, so that is what she wrote about.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 10:08 AM (Io7m1)
Yeah, I never had good memories of books where the dog died in the end. I would (and did) re-read any of Jim Kjeljaard's dog stories before going back to "Where the Red Fern Grows."
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 07, 2025 10:40 AM (Lhaco)
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Posted by: PabloD at December 07, 2025 09:28 AM (GALGA)
I re-read Earth Abides every few years or so. A true classic, and really packs some emotional punch at the end.
My only complaint is that the cross-country trip to search for other survivors that two of Ish's many children embark on turns out to be rather anti-climactic. Always wished that part had been further developed. But, that minor quibble aside, it's a great, great book. The kind of book that leaves you thinking about it for weeks afterwards.
Posted by: Delurker at December 07, 2025 10:40 AM (xNHSX)
236Happy Valley has gone traffic circle mad and my daughter is fit to be tied.
Happy Valley? You live in Amherst?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 10:41 AM (ufSfZ)
237* Imagines that something like Islam would arise in any intelligent species and ultimately lead to its stagnation, thus answering the old SETI question of Where Is Everybody *
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025
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Unless some good-hearted aliens land here; the Moslems enslave them and take their technology (without understanding it); and Islam spreads to the stars.
Now *I'm* depressed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:41 AM (wzUl9)
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200 My IPad runs out of electrons after about 2 hours and have trouble reading it outside anyways.
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Kindle Paper Whites are fairly cheap, maybe $150, and can be read in full sunlight. Battery life is, I don't know, 10 -12 hours.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:17 AM
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I recommend the standard Kindle instead. Also perfectly legible in full sunlight and long-lived battery, but about $50 cheaper.
Posted by: werewife at December 07, 2025 10:42 AM (5ayY3)
239I re-read Earth Abides every few years or so. A true classic, and really packs some emotional punch at the end.
I lived in the Berkeley neighborhood described in "Earth Abides" for several years, which amused me.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 10:43 AM (xTIDn)
240Yeah, I never had good memories of books where the dog died in the end. I would (and did) re-read any of Jim Kjeljaard's dog stories before going back to "Where the Red Fern Grows."
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 07, 2025
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When I was writing a fantasy novel some years ago, the people in my writing group said I could kill off any of the characters I wanted, but not the griffin. He was decidedly un-doglike -- difficult and prickly, as well as paranoid -- but they loved him anyway.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
241When I was writing a fantasy novel some years ago, the people in my writing group said I could kill off any of the characters I wanted, but not the griffin. He was decidedly un-doglike -- difficult and prickly, as well as paranoid -- but they loved him anyway.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025
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And no, I didn't kill him off.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:44 AM (wzUl9)
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Does the stand alone Kindle have two pages on the screen? This is why I like the IPad. It ends like a book swiping right when you complete the two pages.
244
Wordsmith Eric Swalwell has chosen a slogan for his quest to become governor of California.
Eric Swalwell
@ericswalwell
It’s time to get shit done, California.
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And I thought the problem with California was that shit was done!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:47 AM (L/fGl)
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Does the stand alone Kindle have two pages on the screen?
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No.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:49 AM (L/fGl)
246
Good morning! I have to go get ready for church, but wanted to wish everyone a great day.
Posted by: Piper at December 07, 2025 10:50 AM (OoFl2)
247 I've been working hard on my book (a technical work on a field of considerable industrial significance), but I haven't written a single word yet.
The whole thing is a puzzlement to me. It has to be some kind of compulsion. I find myself not greatly caring if anyone reads it. I don't care if I ever get any feedback. I hope never to read a review if anyone does read it ("A dull and pedestrian effort"). The accumulation of 40 years of information is bringing back horrible memories of a time I look back on with shame and a Hadrian I despise.
Maybe I just want, in the twilight of my life, to do one single thing I can be proud of. Maybe I'm the only person with the time to work on it and the interest in seeing the patent literature on the subject given the same weight as the journal articles. Maybe, even though I feel fine, I won't live long enough to see it through.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:50 AM (tgvbd)
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Happy Valley has gone traffic circle mad and my daughter is fit to be tied.
Happy Valley? You live in Amherst?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression)
The Grand Valley in Western Colorado.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 10:52 AM (L/fGl)
249 When I was young, I had the disgusting habit of dogearing books. Now, I find it abhorrent.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2025 10:22 AM (0U5gm)
Dog show ribbons, of which we have thousands, make excellent bookmarks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:53 AM (tgvbd)
250
Hadrian, since you say the topic is of considerable industrial importance, is it possible your work might become a standard handbook on the topic? That would be flattering.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:53 AM (wzUl9)
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If you're a cat lover, I think you'll enjoy "Cat Tales, A History: How we learned to live with them... and they learned to live with us" by Jerry D. Moore. He starts in prehistory when it was a predator/prey relationship on both sides, then on to mutually beneficial relationship of granary owner/mouser, and finally to fuzzy object d'art/slavish admirer.
He notes that there is an asymmetry in our relationships with other domesticated beasts that tips the relationship in humans' favor -- we use their meat, pelts, plumage, or power -- but not so with cats. We love their "intriguing indifference" to us humans. They don't perform as directed, and as for hunting rodents, terriers probably do a better job. So I guess we like them because they are Cool.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:53 AM (kpS4V)
252
The order to destroy Endor in ROTJ was apparently filmed and deleted.
Posted by: steevy at December 07, 2025 10:54 AM (YwEeS)
253He notes that there is an asymmetry in our relationships with other domesticated beasts that tips the relationship in humans' favor -- we use their meat, pelts, plumage, or power -- but not so with cats. We love their "intriguing indifference" to us humans. They don't perform as directed, and as for hunting rodents, terriers probably do a better job. So I guess we like them because they are Cool.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025
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Yes, and even cat-haters (under pressure sometimes) admit that cats are very good-looking animals.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:55 AM (wzUl9)
254
I've just started book 5 in the Suneater series, by Christopher Ruocchio, called "Ashes of Man."
I like this series, but it does seem to be dragging on a bit. I wish I didn't ha e to read another 2800 pages to get to rhe end of book 7, to find out why the protagonist is called the Suneater. I will soldier on, however, Book Nerd that I am.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 07, 2025 10:55 AM (/RHNq)
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247 Best of success to you, Hadrian the Seventh
Posted by: callsign claymore at December 07, 2025 10:55 AM (E7tow)
256
I taught three kids to drive (and two of them to drive stick, by the time Number 3 was ready I had sold the Mustang so no stick shift car around to teach on). I thought it was a breeze. My ex-wife tried one lesson with the oldest and came back a nervous wreck. Driving is indeed freedom and I can't imagine not being able to jump in the car and go. After 42 29th birthdays i have to contemplate the possibility that I will have to give it up someday and I don't like it.
Posted by: who knew at December 07, 2025 10:56 AM (+ViXu)
257I taught three kids to drive (and two of them to drive stick, by the time Number 3 was ready I had sold the Mustang so no stick shift car around to teach on). I thought it was a breeze. My ex-wife tried one lesson with the oldest and came back a nervous wreck. Driving is indeed freedom and I can't imagine not being able to jump in the car and go. After 42 29th birthdays i have to contemplate the possibility that I will have to give it up someday and I don't like it.
Posted by: who knew at December 07, 2025
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Though I'd loved cars since I was eleven, maybe earlier, I did not learn to drive until I was almost 23. Maybe it made me a more careful driver than I would have been at 16.
I love driving still.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:58 AM (wzUl9)
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Haven't read it in eons, but John D. MacDonald wrote a book about his household's cats (may have been a couple of other pets in there too, can't remember) called The House Guests.
His cats tended to walk all over his work table whenever they felt like it IIRC, and he dedicated one of his best novels, The End of the Night, "To Roger and Geoffrey, who left their marks on the manuscript."
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 10:58 AM (q3u5l)
259 Hadrian, since you say the topic is of considerable industrial importance, is it possible your work might become a standard handbook on the topic? That would be flattering.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:53 AM (wzUl9)
There have been a good many books on the subject, but they're all collections of contributions "edited by". That means the books are a compilation of snapshots of topics that can be written, not that need to be written.
There has never been a single, comprehensive treatment of the topic. Nothing that looks at the historical perspective of how it evolved. Nothing that doesn't ignore at least half the disclosures about it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 10:59 AM (tgvbd)
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Well, I suppose I'd better make some tea and read. Thanks for highlighting my library, Perfesser!
Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 10:59 AM (ufSfZ)
Nazi Sex Spies is by Al Camino, and if you believe that you had astro-turf in the back of your Chev.
Edited by Delray Belair?
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 07, 2025 11:00 AM (zdLoL)
262
Unless some good-hearted aliens land here; the Moslems enslave them and take their technology (without understanding it); and Islam spreads to the stars.
Now *I'm* depressed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 10:41 AM (wzUl9)
That’s roughly the setup for the Star Trek Mirror Universe. With humans stealing Vulcan Tech.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 11:00 AM (c7Ygk)
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I tried, unsuccessfully, to teach my second wife how to ride a bicycle. She never could get that you have to lean when making a turn. We tried it in a school playground and it looked like she might get it, but as soon as she saw the fence she froze, unable to turn until she rolled right into it. That was her last lesson.
Posted by: Toad-0 at December 07, 2025 11:01 AM (3d4tv)
Woman Says There Should Be a Law That All Trump Voters Wear a Trump Hat 24/7
https://is.gd/h7Cvj5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:01 AM (L/fGl)
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Thomas Paine. I've gotten all my first editions the same way. I never paid attention to what edition a book was until one day I was in a used bookstore and saw a first edition of Elmer Gantry on the expensive book shelf. It looked familiar so I checked when I got back home and sure enough, I had a first edition of Elmer Gantry that I had paid a quarter for. Over the years I've found more. I've got a first edition of Out of Africa that has a beautiful binding (but no dust cover so probably not worth as much as I'd like to think).
Posted by: who knew at December 07, 2025 11:02 AM (+ViXu)
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I added a book this week: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Other Stories. It's the B and N Collectible edition. Hardcover, silver gilt pages, and type that is easily read. It's over a thousand pages and includes about everything Lewis Carroll wrote. This is the kind of writing worth preserving in a good physical volume. And it uses the John Tenniel illustrations.
I'll peruse this over time when I'm in the mood for whimsy.
Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2025 11:03 AM (yTvNw)
267
My reading slumps were a result of reading so much material at work I had no desire to read on my off time.
Now that I’m retired , golf ,painting and TV get in the way. But I still manage to read a book a month give or take.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:04 AM (KDPiq)
268
A better law would be that all libtards must wear a kick me sign.
Posted by: Toad-0 at December 07, 2025 11:04 AM (3d4tv)
269
I tried "The Dragon's Prophecy" by Jonathan Cain, about the grand historic threat against Israel. Dinesh D'Souza made a documentary of it I understand. I couldn't make sense of it. Seemed like a lot of gobbledygook based on Revelations.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 07, 2025 11:04 AM (WHfpM)
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I tried, unsuccessfully, to teach my second wife how to ride a bicycle. She never could get that you have to lean when making a turn. We tried it in a school playground and it looked like she might get it, but as soon as she saw the fence she froze, unable to turn until she rolled right into it. That was her last lesson.
Posted by: Toad-0 at December 07, 2025 11:01 AM (3d4tv)
Should have had Papa Bear teach her. He's good at teaching a kid to ride a bike....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:05 AM (uQesX)
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The boys were from modest homes and had ordinary lives, so that is what she wrote about.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 10:08 AM (Io7m1)
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I read them a little early but Henry Higgins led a life that I could barely comprehend.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 10:13 AM
To me, it was a fantasy because I lived outside the city limits. My BFF lived in town but there were no public busses except Dial-A-Ride and no public pools or anything kid-friendly like that.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 11:05 AM (Io7m1)
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Nazi Sex Spies is by Al Camino, and if you believe that you had astro-turf in the back of your Chev.
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Maybe his momma had a sense of humor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:06 AM (L/fGl)
Woman Says There Should Be a Law That All Trump Voters Wear a Trump Hat 24/7
https://is.gd/h7Cvj5
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:01 AM (L/fGl)
I would do that except I don’t wear a hat when I sleep.
Wearing a hat would identify these nutcases for justified disposal .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:07 AM (KDPiq)
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Woman Says There Should Be a Law That All Trump Voters Wear a Trump Hat 24/7
Because that wouldn't at all be Nazi-like.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 07, 2025 11:08 AM (WHfpM)
275here have been a good many books on the subject, but they're all collections of contributions "edited by". That means the books are a compilation of snapshots of topics that can be written, not that need to be written.
There has never been a single, comprehensive treatment of the topic. Nothing that looks at the historical perspective of how it evolved. Nothing that doesn't ignore at least half the disclosures about it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025
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Then it sounds like yours is a new take on the subject. Essentially you are writing a book *you'd* like to read, or use.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:09 AM (wzUl9)
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Imagine how that lady would fill when she saw almost 100 million people wearing a Trump hat (Trump supporters have Trump supporting kids too)
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq)
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"Woman Says There Should Be a Law That All Trump Voters Wear a Trump Hat 24/7"
And damned if she doesn't look just like I imagined she would.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:10 AM (q3u5l)
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:11 AM (KDPiq)
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I finished Anthem by Ayn Rand. I have complained that Rand needed an editor, and I got more from reading the Cliff notes, but Anthem is the Cliff notes that needed expanding.
The Narrator, Equality 7-2521, lives in a controlled world that is post-restructuring to extirpate individua thought and existence, commits the sin of falling in love, examining things on his own, improbably discovering ancient knowledge, and discovering that he is an individual, and sets out his findings in a manifesto in the end, declaring individualism and denouncing collectivism.
As a story it is thin, and as an exploration of the concept of rejecting collectivism it needs a plot to carry it. However it does have echoes in subsequent dystopian science fiction, so Rand did manage to accomplish that.
At least it was short.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 11:11 AM (rbvCR)
Is it me or does auto-cucumber seem to be getting even more intrusive and annoying by the day?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:12 AM (q3u5l)
281e their technology (without understanding it); and Islam spreads to the stars.
Now *I'm* depressed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025
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That’s roughly the setup for the Star Trek Mirror Universe. With humans stealing Vulcan Tech.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025
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And the implication -- or maybe it's stated in one of the Man-Kzin Wars volumes -- is that Larry Niven's big cat-like Kzinti did the same to another star-traveling species, then set out to create an empire.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:12 AM (wzUl9)
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Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:12 AM (q3u5l)
The worst is when it tries to correct proper names.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:13 AM (KDPiq)
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At least it was short.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 11:11 AM (rbvCR)
I've always found her a much better essayist, polemicist and speaker than a storyteller.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 07, 2025 11:13 AM (WHfpM)
284"Woman Says There Should Be a Law That All Trump Voters Wear a Trump Hat 24/7"
And damned if she doesn't look just like I imagined she would.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025
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Ain't it something, that these AWFLs or screaming libtards are so predictable.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:14 AM (wzUl9)
MS NOW Downplays $1 Billion Minnesota Somali Welfare Fraud, Says It’s “Isolated”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
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And it doesn’t recognize the word ill. It will always try to change it to i’ll .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:14 AM (KDPiq)
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Now that I have seen the photo up close, I covet
MP4's bog bookshelf. My house is too small for a bookshelf that size unless I paid a very clever carpenter to remove a livingroom wall and build it in the closet behind. Hmmm...
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 11:15 AM (Io7m1)
Watchdog Report Uncovers “Large-Scale Systemic Failures” Leading to Obamacare Subsidy Fraud
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
291 To me, it was a fantasy because I lived outside the city limits. My BFF lived in town but there were no public busses except Dial-A-Ride and no public pools or anything kid-friendly like that.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025
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As a boy, reading the Whitman "Lassie" books, whether with Jeff as his human or Timmy, they too seemed fantasy to me in reverse from yours. I lived in the city with public busses and the like. Jeff and Timmy and their families were Midwestern farm people, and going to the "big city," the capital of their state, was some hours' drive in the pickup.
Delightful fantasy, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:17 AM (wzUl9)
292
Also reading the surviving officer statements regarding the sinking of the USS Arizona. Pretty harrowing.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 07, 2025 11:18 AM (/RHNq)
293
Isolated to the Somali community. Does MS Now not realize that they are confirming Trump’s statements?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:19 AM (KDPiq)
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MS NOW Downplays $1 Billion Minnesota Somali Welfare Fraud, Says It’s “Isolated”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
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Straight from crisis communications handbook.
1. It was an isolated incident
2. It is unacceptable
3. There is no known motive
For example, "This type of crime is unacceptable and we will prosecute to the full extent of the law!"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 11:19 AM (sF9Ts)
295I taught the first one, I can teach her, too. That's what empty business parking lots are for on Sundays.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 09:19 AM (uQesX)
Go get a bunch of boxes for pylons to drive around, and later she can run over them practicing parking between the lines.
Make sure she understands ahead of time this is fun, and you are using boxes because they are cheaper than using Volvos
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 11:19 AM (rbvCR)
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Does MS Now not realize that they are confirming Trump’s statements?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:19 AM (KDPiq)
They don't realize anything. They're unrealizable people.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 07, 2025 11:19 AM (WHfpM)
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It's Sunday December 7th and there's a nip in the air!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 07, 2025
The Japs still hadn't attacked PH yet by this time of the day here on the mainland.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 07, 2025 11:20 AM (g8Ew8)
Trump Sides With Soccer, Says NFL Should Drop the Name “Football”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)
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I mentioned this yesterday during the Pet Thread. Lassie the TV series was a pioneer in what we call "rebooting" today. Each time, after several seasons, the cast of humans changed, but Lassie herself continued on. We had Jeff Miller, his mother, and her father Gramps. Then came Timmy, his father and mother (originally played by Cloris Leachman, as someone pointed out to me), then by June Lockhart; adopted parents, I think I was told. After that Lassie went to live in an even more outdoor environment with bachelor forest ranger Corey. Each time the background changed, but the central canine remained.
The Whitman "TV adventures for young readers" books had several about Jeff & Lassie, and at least two about Timmy & Lassie. I don't know if there was ever a "Corey the Ranger & Lassie" tie-in novel; I'd outgrown those books by then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:23 AM (wzUl9)
301I taught the first one, I can teach her, too. That's what empty business parking lots are for on Sundays.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025
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You still have stores closed on Sundays and empty parking lots? Luxury!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:24 AM (wzUl9)
Trump Sides With Soccer, Says NFL Should Drop the Name “Football”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)
I would start watching the NFL again if they renamed it Murderball or Battleball but then they would have to go back to the old rules and get rid of the flag football rules.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:26 AM (KDPiq)
Ellen Barkin Cruelly Attacks Charlie Kirk’s Widow, Calls Her a “Dog”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:28 AM (L/fGl)
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It's stopped raining here, but the streets are still damp and dirty. Until the sun comes out and dries them a bit, it would be pointless to wash the car. I can check the tires and see if they need air, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:28 AM (wzUl9)
You can't pull yourself away!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 11:21 AM
True! Going into a bookstore is like willingly stepping into a tar pit...
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 11:28 AM (Io7m1)
310
Waiting for tea water and either book time or movie, not sure which
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 11:28 AM (Ia/+0)
311
Love seeing library pics, and MP4 has a nice one.
When Mrs Some Guy and I moved here from Chicago, we shipped over 100 cartons (large cartons) of books. Bookshelves in every room except kitchen and bathroom. Mostly gone now -- the libraries and second hand shops did quite well in that purge -- quite a few replaced with ebooks. Her books are now on one case and mine are on a couple of others. Oddly, even after the purge, we don't seem to have much extra space; Mrs Some Guy has quite a few glass figures and display cases. Oh, well. Pics of my current physical library would not be nearly as impressive as MP4s, either in size or content.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:29 AM (q3u5l)
312
>>And damned if she doesn't look just like I imagined she would.
They always do.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 07, 2025 11:29 AM (Y1sOo)
313
Kirk’s reply if any should be ‘ who’s Ellen Barkin? ‘
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:29 AM (KDPiq)
314
Go get a bunch of boxes for pylons to drive around, and later she can run over them practicing parking between the lines.
Make sure she understands ahead of time this is fun, and you are using boxes because they are cheaper than using Volvos
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 11:19 AM (rbvCR)
I'm thinking instead to get ugly women who think Trump supporter should wear hats to stand up and we'll play hit the pylon. She can rack up some good points that way.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:30 AM (uQesX)
315
Huh. I just ran into a word I had never read before.
'deracinated'- uprooted from one's natural geographical, social, or cultural environment:
"a deracinated writer who has complicated relations with his working-class background"
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 07, 2025 09:52 AM (bss/y)
Get yourself some John Buchan novels, The Thirtynine Steps, and several others. That word shows up in several, I am sure. Also ripping good yarns.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:30 AM (npFr7)
316 The Whitman "TV adventures for young readers" books had several about Jeff & Lassie, and at least two about Timmy & Lassie. I don't know if there was ever a "Corey the Ranger & Lassie" tie-in novel; I'd outgrown those books by then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:23 AM (wzUl9
Lassie: Woof
Human: Timmy fell into a well?
Lassie: Woof
Human: AND THE FARMHAND IS FUCKING MY WIFE?!
Lassie: Woof
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 07, 2025 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)
Ellen Barkin Cruelly Attacks Charlie Kirk’s Widow, Calls Her a “Dog”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:28 AM (L/fGl)
So, she's barking at the moon?
Posted by: dantesed at December 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Oy/m2)
318
MS NOW Downplays $1 Billion Minnesota Somali Welfare Fraud, Says It’s “Isolated”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
Local news story
Posted by: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, et al at December 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Y1sOo)
319Her suggestion was, why not go back a year and make the plot about the Roscoe Arbuckle case? The problem with that is, that while I can revamp the book, it still requires reading the three full-length books on his case.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 07, 2025 09:32 AM (ufSfZ)
Jerry Stahl wrote I, Fatty about Roscoe Arbuckle. I never read it, but I heard him talk about it when it first came out. Stahl was a heroin addict (like Arbuckle) and that seems to have been his interest in the case.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 11:32 AM (rbvCR)
320True! Going into a bookstore is like willingly stepping into a tar pit...
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025
***
The old used paperback bookstores were like that for me. Now, the independent bookstores I see mostly have hardbacks, and recent ones at that, all sort of pricey if I haven't read the one I'm interested in and know it's good. And older authors, say the '30s to the '70s, are rarely represented. It's hard to find a John Dickson Carr or an Ellery Queen in such a store; the young proprietors often have never heard of either.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:32 AM (wzUl9)
321
You still have stores closed on Sundays and empty parking lots? Luxury!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:24 AM (wzUl9)
Sure, the corporate office centers are all deserted on Sundays, other places, not so much. Shoot, even the churches around here are open on Sunday!!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:32 AM (uQesX)
322
My favorite word is still Petrichor, not because of how it sounds but the definition immediately has your brain recall that sense.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:33 AM (KDPiq)
323
Meme for the Horde writers:
https://shorturl.at/ZhJwm
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 07, 2025 11:34 AM (ULPxl)
324
Get yourself some John Buchan novels, The Thirtynine Steps, and several others. That word shows up in several, I am sure. Also ripping good yarns.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 11:30 AM (npFr7)
Ripping Yarns is a good book, too. And TV series.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:35 AM (uQesX)
325
Confirmation that Ellen Barkin is just as ugly on the inside as she is on the outside.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 07, 2025 11:36 AM (Y1sOo)
326
Speaking of words , I never heard or knew the definition of the word Spelunking until I read Calvin and Hobbes.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 11:36 AM (KDPiq)
327323 Meme for the Horde writers:
https://shorturl.at/ZhJwm
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 07, 2025
***
All too true.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:36 AM (wzUl9)
The segments for surfing the net, reading for inspiration, and binge snacking may vary in size from Hordeling to Hordeling, but -- yeah, spot on.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:40 AM (q3u5l)
332329 All too true.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:36 AM (wzUl9)
Except for the binge snacking. Can't do that anymore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025
***
A segment of my snacking would include smoking my pipe. And part of the circle should include exercise -- sadly, even smaller a slice than the "Actual Writing."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:41 AM (wzUl9)
333 “My job as Vice President is NOT to look out for the interests of the whole world. It's my job to look out for the people of the United States.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
If the world's media could figure out that they do not represent the moral order of the universe we might actually get somewhere.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 11:42 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 07, 2025 11:43 AM (XQo4F)
335Not in the slightest. I'm going to research the image to see what she was yammering about.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 09:38 AM (p/isN)
Hope it is not the same story as in Still Life With Woodpecker by Tom Robbins. Someone should apologize to the pulpwood trees cut down to print that book .
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 11:43 AM (rbvCR)
336
A segment of my snacking would include smoking my pipe. And part of the circle should include exercise -- sadly, even smaller a slice than the "Actual Writing."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:41 AM (wzUl9)
I include exercise in it. I've gotten a few ideas and dialog thinking about the WIP while on the elliptical.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:43 AM (uQesX)
337
The media were probably headed downhill after they started to believe that bit about their job being to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:44 AM (q3u5l)
Posted by: Nazdar at December 07, 2025 11:44 AM (NcvvS)
340
Would "deracinated" also include someone who is *not yet in* his natural social or cultural environment? I don't know if I've been uprooted from it. All I know is where I am now isn't it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:45 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 11:46 AM (Y8DZL)
344
The media were probably headed downhill after they started to believe that bit about their job being to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:44 AM (q3u5l)
All references to the press should be as follows:
The Streicherite network ABC News, or the Streicherite newspaper Washington Post....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 11:47 AM (uQesX)
345
'bout chore time, I'm afraid. It's been a fascinating Book Thread, one of the highlights of my online week, as usual. Thanks, Perfessor and all you bibliophages, as Eris called us!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:47 AM (wzUl9)
346
National Socialism is for the country
Marxism for the world
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 11:48 AM (Ia/+0)
347 The media were probably headed downhill after they started to believe that bit about their job being to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025
***
But but but . . . once the Afflicted get rescued from that status and become Comfortable, does that mean they'll be in line to be afflicted again? This sounds like an endless loop here. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:50 AM (wzUl9)
348
College Football Playoff teams announced starting in a few minutes on ESPN.
Near as I can figure, there are two slots available with three teams in the running -- Miami, Notre Dame and Alabama.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 07, 2025 11:50 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: ERMAHGERD! NERTZERS! at December 07, 2025 11:53 AM (TbWk/)
355
The old used paperback bookstores were like that for me. Now, the independent bookstores I see mostly have hardbacks, and recent ones at that, all sort of pricey if I haven't read the one I'm interested in and know it's good. And older authors, say the '30s to the '70s, are rarely represented. It's hard to find a John Dickson Carr or an Ellery Queen in such a store; the young proprietors often have never heard of either.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:32 AM
You aren't kidding! Plus, the bookstores near me have games and toys taking up shelf space.
I use the library loan system and limit myself to three requests. Once, eleven books arrived on the same day and it was like getting hit with a homework assignment.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 07, 2025 11:54 AM (Io7m1)
356
Thanks for another nifty book thread, Perf and Horde!
Time to do stuff.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 11:54 AM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 07, 2025 11:56 AM (q3u5l)
358
Some folks just don't have the wits to drive and shouldn't.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 11:58 AM (W7XSX)
359Funny thing, I just recently learned to parallel park and I'm still bad at it.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 07, 2025 10:14 AM (VCgbV)
Driving forklift will make you a champ at that!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2025 11:59 AM (rbvCR)
360My favorite word is still Petrichor, not because of how it sounds but the definition immediately has your brain recall that sense.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025
***
So you *can* get blood from a stone!!!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 12:00 PM (wzUl9)
361
Saddest time of Sunday morning. The end of the Book Thread. Thanks, Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 07, 2025 12:01 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)
363
I hate to tell you, but there were several Lassies.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (W7XSX)
364
297 It's Sunday December 7th and there's a nip in the air!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 07, 2025
The Japs still hadn't attacked PH yet by this time of the day here on the mainland.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 07, 2025 11:20 AM (g8Ew
Pearl Harbor, Hawaii must have seemed like a distant and exotic place to mainland Americans on a Sunday afternoon in fall-winter 1941.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 12:11 PM (y171U)
365
313
'Kirk’s reply if any should be ‘ who’s Ellen Barkin? ‘'
Or
"You're barkin' up the wrong tree, lady.
If I throw a stick, will you run away?"
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:14 PM (fd80v)
366
300 I mentioned this yesterday during the Pet Thread. Lassie the TV series was a pioneer in what we call "rebooting" today. Each time, after several seasons, the cast of humans changed, but Lassie herself continued on. We had Jeff Miller, his mother, and her father Gramps. Then came Timmy, his father and mother (originally played by Cloris Leachman, as someone pointed out to me), then by June Lockhart; adopted parents, I think I was told. After that Lassie went to live in an even more outdoor environment with bachelor forest ranger Corey. Each time the background changed, but the central canine remained.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 11:23 AM (wzUl9)
I remember watching the Ranger Corey episodes on CBS Sunday nights, and Lassie somehow got lost from the Miller family, it was very disturbing as a child that Lassie never found her way home.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (y171U)
367
focus on finishing my self-taught trigonometry course (I have books; it counts!).
Posted by: PabloD
----
Aside:
Geometry is science, trig is engineering.
Posted by: buddhaha at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (E2vqx)
368
Re when statesiders learned of the Pearl Harbor raid:
Dad said the news came on the radio at the time he and his brother wanted to listen to Charlie McCarthy. Their father, a gentle man, snarled at them to shut up.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (p/isN)
369
My favorite book for many years now has been "A Canticle for Leibowitz" by Arthur Miller, Jr … it seems, in a way, almost prescient in its regard for the 'whiz-dumb of them po' Hoo-Mons'. Fiat Lux. Fiat Lex. Ecce Homo. Yeah … right.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (ayRl+)
370
368 Re when statesiders learned of the Pearl Harbor raid:
Dad said the news came on the radio at the time he and his brother wanted to listen to Charlie McCarthy. Their father, a gentle man, snarled at them to shut up.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (p/isN)
Great story. Be quiet about Pearl Harbor news to hear Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 07, 2025 02:25 PM (y171U)
371
Thank you to the Moron/-ette who recommended "The Original" by Sanderson & Kowal. Well structured novella. Interestingly, this was released as an audiobook before a print version. The reader is quite good.
RE: Real men build libraries. In "Earth Abides," by George R. Stewart, the main character, Ish, spends a lot of time repairing Doe Library, the main library at UC Berkeley, to preserve the knowledge contained there in. The novel was written in 1949, so no digital media. And Stewart discusses the difficulty in teaching people to read who need to develop more practical physical survival skills.
Posted by: March Hare at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (O/GSq)
372
I have to say, life in cities varies widely. I live in a relatively small city, only about a quarter of s mile from the center of town.
Now crime exists, and idiots are idiots anywhere. But over 90 % of it is within a very small section of town.
I live in a stable neighborhood, almost all homeowners, employed/retired, and many vets. The worst we get is kids littering, or a loud party. Even with those, they settle down if the police make a visit.
The teens next door sometimes play basketball later in the evening, but what the heck, they're home and not up to no good.
A lot of the ambience is that neighbors are outdoors, and know who belongs and who doesn't. We keep an eye on the people around.
People keep up their property; lawn care, repairs, the like. Its like living in a small town, but with the convenience of being close to excellent medical care.
Posted by: Linda S Fox at December 07, 2025 07:49 PM (7Rs+y)
Daily Tech News 7 December 2025
Top Story
That mini-PC I just bought increased in price by 25% the next day. In fact, the 32GB model now costs more than I paid for the 64GB model.
Which is not a huge surprise - it was markedly cheaper in Australia than on the British Minisforum store, and a key reason I bought it in the first place was because the price was so low compared to the current cost of RAM.
I'll post a quick review once I get it - or at least, next weekend once I have a chance to set it up. But if you're impatient Notebook Check just covered it in detail.
Speaking of which are the Chinas set to rescue the world from its folly?
Oh, how the turns have tabled. CXMT can only produce 16Gb chips, not the latest 32Gb models - so 32GB modules and 64GB dual-channel kits - but 64GB of memory you can buy is a lot better than 128GB you can't.
There may only be three big memory manufacturers, but that doesn't mean there aren't little ones looking to get big.
* Micron, Samsung, and SK Hynix, formerly Hyundai Semiconductor.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 07, 2025 04:15 AM (tljrc)
16
I remember the Chernobyl 'event'-- was working at a military base then-- and the SatCom guys were pointing & laughing about the blurry, grainy pics on the newscasts.
(paraphrasing)
"Hahaha, look at those sh!tty photos! What a lie! We can take a picture of a kopek on the ground in Red Square and tell you which side is up!"
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 04:16 AM (rdVOm)
17
Edwin Land, of Polaroid fame, had a lot to do with improving high altitude photography. In those days the captains of industry did things for their country not necessarily for money.
The Soviets took the first photograph of the far side of the moon, but they used a special type of film from the US cannibalized from something they shot down. I think I have that right, it’s early and caffeine levels have not been optimated
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 04:21 AM (B4klT)
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:24 AM (RuTUS)
22
I brought my meat clown with me to this thread with a bottle of tequila, and I must say, the spaciousness and openness and air of this thread is exhilarating and refreshing.
Happy Sunday morning!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 04:25 AM (w6S0H)
Prayer by Henri Nouwen- RC Priest 1892-1971 . He wrote quite a few books
Dear Lord
Today I thought of the words of Vincent Van Gogh: "It is true that there is an ebb and flow, but the sea remains the sea" You are the sea . Although I experience many upd and downs in my emotions and often feel great shifts and changes in my inner life , you remain the same. Your sameness is not the sameness of a rock, but the sameness of a faithful lover. Out of your love I came to life by your love I am sustained . and to your love I am always called back. There are days of sadness and days of joy; there are feelings of guilt and feelings of gratitude ; there are moments of failure and moments of success; but all of them are embraced by your unwavering love .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 04:28 AM (afKoR)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 04:29 AM (rdVOm)
28
Nouwen prayer part two to avoid the spam designation
My only real temptation is to doubt in your love, to think of myself as beyond the reach of your love, to remove myself from the healing radiance of your love. To do these things is to move into the darkness of despair.
O Lord, sea of love and goodness, let me not fear too much the storms and winds of my daily life, and let me know that there is an ebb and flow but that the sea remains the sea.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 04:33 AM (afKoR)
29
I think a meat clown would be a big hit at the Sunday brunch after services.
We must all strive to be better.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 04:34 AM (w6S0H)
30
13 So, if Chernobyl is now "unshielded"-- what does that really mean for those downwind of it?
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 04:11 AM (rdVOm)
The article is kinda useless on that point.
Somewhere within these three statements perhaps the truth resides:
- A structure designed to prevent radioactive leakage at the defunct Chernobyl nuclear plant in Ukraine is no longer operational
- the large steel structure "lost its primary safety functions, including the confinement capability" when its outer cladding was set ablaze
- Beyond that, there was "no permanent damage to its load-bearing structures or monitoring systems"
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:35 AM (RuTUS)
31
The Politico Chernobyl article has, at the bottom of the page, photos of Musk and Meloni with almost exactly the same hilarious expression on their faces. Not an accident, I would think.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:38 AM (RuTUS)
32
I don't want my meat logs to have a face 😉but I did pick up some very cute cookies of snowmen and panda bears at the nicer local food market.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 04:39 AM (afKoR)
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:56 AM (RuTUS)
45
The structure is a very large area of sheathing that prevents mixing interior air with the outside, essentially what is called a "tight building". The integrity of the sheathing has been broken. It has a hole(s) in it. They have been patching it for a while now because of other drone hits.
It just means the Euros are going to pony up more money to fix it, or not.
Posted by: pawn at December 07, 2025 05:01 AM (70YV/)
46
I wanted to share the "God moment" I had yesterday. We were driving somewhere yesterday and we didn't get a lot of snow- maybe half an inch , but it looked lovely on the pine trees and the dare I say it-?- bunches of bamboo which we passed .
I also appreciate the trees which shed their bark and become white. Sycamore (?) . It's probably a mess to clean up if you have the bark in your yard but the white branches are pretty. I am reminded of the character of Anne Shirley from the "Anne of Green Gablez" series who says, "Everyday there is something beautiful to see or hear . May you all see or hear something beautiful today!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 05:05 AM (WFtAr)
47
I've never had bacon in pea soup, but it certainly sounds like a good idea.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Oh, yes! Any ham-based soup, will benefit from addition of bacon. You can even make roux with baconfat and flour, to thicken.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:06 AM (rdVOm)
48
Elon Musk's EU fine
(and his response)
(and US government officials' response)
https://archive.is/HeC4E
(Politico; archived)
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 05:10 AM (RuTUS)
49
"[Musk] followed up with another post to say the EU should be 'abolished.'"
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 05:11 AM (RuTUS)
50
LOL, Fen. Sycamores are pretty-- as long as they are in *somebody else's* yard!
They are horribly messy trees, year 'round. Bark, seedpods (big dingleberries!) and leaves that shed slowly, all winter long. Those leaves don't compress well or break down easily, so they are a hassle to bag or compost...
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:12 AM (rdVOm)
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Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:12 AM (rdVOm)
I guess you have them or had them in your yard ?
I'm sorry.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 05:13 AM (wZvvl)
53
Soup, I maintain, is generally just a stew that isn’t quite done yet. Split pea is a bean, technically ain’t it?
Anyhow beans are definitely immensely improved by a meaty ham bone and/or bacon by those who partake. Fat is flavor, and beans soak it up.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 05:15 AM (Yr1lv)
5449 "[Musk] followed up with another post to say the EU should be 'abolished.'"
Posted by: m
The EU is picking a fight with a guy who has total control over 9000 orbital space lasers.
I don't know what they expect to achieve here.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 07, 2025 05:15 AM (BLOW1)
55
Need to get things ready for church. Have a good day everyone.! Remember, you are a blessing to others!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2025 05:15 AM (wZvvl)
56
The EU is a failed experiment. Unfortunately, the only *losers* are the regular people who live in that zone.
The damned globalist "elites" are nearly done sucking all the money and sovereignty out of the Member Countries, and will have completely ruined greater Europe-- soon.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:18 AM (rdVOm)
57
I guess you have them or had them in your yard ?
I'm sorry.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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HAD! Lol, sold the place long ago.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:20 AM (rdVOm)
58
Sycamore drops a lot of branches too. Fast growing varieties of tree species provide quick shade, And there is the problem. Swamp maple aka Silver maple, is a wonderful tree in the woods maybe, but it fills gutters with “helicopters”. Its roots seek out moisture - wreaking havoc with city water mains, the service to your home, and sewer pipes. Also buckles sidewalks. And drops branches in ice storms. It isn’t even a particularly nice looking tree, they tend to look sort of bushy or unkempt. But they grow like a weed, because they are, I suppose. A favorite too, to place under power and telephone lines, (why??) where street crews stay busy pruning them up to look especially bad.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 05:23 AM (Yr1lv)
59
>>>a guy who has total control over 9000 orbital space lasers
And he's got a sense of humor, too!
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 05:25 AM (RuTUS)
60
>>>The EU is picking a fight with a guy who has total control over 9000 orbital space lasers.
I don't know what they expect to achieve here.
Posted by: Pixy Misa
>Maybe override the telemetry or correct the issues that allows EVs to crash into mobile cell towers also known as law enforcement vehicles?
The monkey wrench is already in the works. While you're banging your bride-to-be in the back seat of an autopilot EV, remember that a cop car just might send you spinning into a Jersey barricade.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 05:27 AM (w6S0H)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 07, 2025 05:27 AM (ExV1e)
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>>>a guy who has total control over 9000 orbital space lasers
And he's got a sense of humor, too!
------------
Be funnyhilarious if he used those lasers to burn a huge "X" across Brussels...
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:28 AM (rdVOm)
63
Finally, the hapless homeowner, faced with a tree planted long ago not suitable for landscaping must have it taken down, and nearly chokes when he discovers what it costs to have it removed by a licensed, bonded, and insured tree cutter.
Yes, trees are best viewed in somebody else’s yard. If only the wind would keep the leaves where they belong! Naturally, leftists have outlawed burning leaves, turning a timeless ritual into a huge hassle with bags and disposal issues, and fleets of trucks paid for with your confiscated dollars.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 05:28 AM (Yr1lv)
Stephen L. Miller retweeted
Jarvis
@jarvis_best
18h
People are mad about this but you have to remember that fining US tech companies is Europe’s sole source of income.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 05:30 AM (RuTUS)
I's the 84th anniversary of Pearl today. How many do you suppose will take note and perhaps comment?
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 07, 2025 05:38 AM (vFbHf)
66 Good morning, Hordians. Up, dressed, morning prayers said, dogs let out. About to take a shower, get dressed and head out at 5:15 for Rosary at 6:30 and Mass at 7:00.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 05:39 AM (tgvbd)
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The 84th anniversary of Pearl Harbor is in fact at 1155 CST. And this year it is on a Sunday, just as it was then.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 05:39 AM (6KcYW)
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Evening and morning, Sunday toilers and early risers/insomaniacals!
I'mup thanks to a nightmare that, in its plausible illogic, reminds me of the craziness of the employment world. In it, I was still at my old university. Miss Linda worked at a clothing shop and had a big discount, so we gave a blouse to one of the girl graduate students for Xmas. She seemed pleased.
The next day she brought it back to me, saying it had got some white splotches on it. She tried rinsing it and pressing it (mark this), and no improvement. I said, "Let me try," and took it home with the same result.
The next day, she *complains* that *I* ruined her gift -- though she washed it first -- and complained to the admin. None of their business, but suddenly I had a firestorm around me.
(cont)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 05:40 AM (wzUl9)
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Finally, the hapless homeowner, faced with a tree planted long ago not suitable for landscaping must have it taken down, and nearly chokes when he discovers what it costs to have it removed by a licensed, bonded, and insured tree cutter.
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Yep. After 25 years of paying for trimming, thinning, and finally removal of various huge trees... I think I've paid for cars & college for at least 2 of the tree guy's kids.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:44 AM (rdVOm)
The dean calls me, saying I should know better. I keep pointing out that *she* washed it first and failed; and in any case it was a *gift*, and she's complaining?
I get back to my office, and one of my co-workers says the gift violates the university's rules on gift-giving. In my dream I see it in black-and-white: "The recipient if of the opposite sex may not be a co-worker, ex-wife, or wife."
So I'm exclaiming to the dean that not only am I being excoriated for "ruining" a gift, I'm in trouble because she's married (which I did not know)! I was pointing out that she was not a co-worker, but a grad student, thus not even in my chain of command, when I woke up.
The point: The dream illogic almost matches the kind of illogic HR departments force on us. I'm SO glad to be out of that!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 05:46 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 05:49 AM (rdVOm)
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Anyway! Here I am, sipping coffee, with furry thugs drifting around waiting for breakfast. They were sleeping with me, but the moment I turned on the light, meatloaves that they are, they vaulted away, ready to eat.
55 F., very little wind, and the rain mostly to the south of us. Good workout conditions, if it's really not raining.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 05:50 AM (wzUl9)
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I read yesterday (copy below) that fentanyl is "around 50x more addictive than heroin" and, googling, I don't find that, and it looks like the "50x" might be more true of fentanyl v heroin potency than addictiveness. But, still, imagine for a moment that that is true: around 50x more addictive than heroin.
Bonchie
@bonchieredstate
21h
Fentanyl is around 50x more addictive than Heroin. The cartels are trading increased overdose deaths for exploding sales in a country with 320 million people.
They aren’t concerned about running out of customers. Nor does presumed intent negate the deadly result.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 05:54 AM (RuTUS)
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So, I didn't see anything about the UKR military assets that may have been stationed near Chernobyl since the UKRs may have thought that to be a location the Russians wouldn't dream of attacking.
The Ukraine had been part of Russia since the 1700s (not voluntarily). It also changed hands to the German Empire in the last days of WW1, reverted to the Soviets after that, got invaded by the Germans in WW2 in 1941 (who could have raised an anti-soviet army with the Ukrainians, but they were Slavic sub-humans, so no), had a lot of major battles fought there, and ended up back under Soviet control in late 1944.
The Russians aren't angels by any stretch of the imagination, but the Ukrainians aren't much further away from the Devil IMO (plus they give money to my enemies, which I assume the Russians don't do as well).
The weird thing is that I came to comment that the song "Rock The Casbah" by the Clash would probably considered a hate crime in Airstrip One (formerly known as "Britain", fuck the "Great" bit).
Posted by: Richard Cranium at December 07, 2025 05:57 AM (yB/+Q)
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It’s complicated, I’ll allow for that. But Twitter is a US company.
#1 - by what authority does any foreign entity have the purview to levy a fine on a US corporation?
2, 3, 4, etc. etc. This really is a hill to die on. Free speech is that important. There’s plenty I don’t like about it. The alternative is worse, is the crux of the issue. It isn’t up to Twitter to censor Europe. They can censor their own subjects on their own dime.
Maybe Mr. Musk can airdrop those single shot stamped steel .45 pistols to the millions of beleaguered denizens trapped behind the EU Curtain.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 05:59 AM (2Fnww)
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James Stewart Westerns Day on Grit today: Winchester '73, The Cheyenne Social Club, Firecreek, etc. The Robe w/ Richard Burton is on Movies! at 5 am Central, too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 06:00 AM (wzUl9)
78The Robe is from 1953 -- at the start of the period when Burton really could have made a fine movie James Bond.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 06:02 AM (wzUl9)
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I've read that people who ruin sweaters in dreams are evildoers and its their subconscious trying to process their ceaseless misdeeds.
Posted by: extrapsychotherapy at December 07, 2025 06:03 AM (J603h)
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Dick Head up there has a point. But I don't know if he like Ukrainians or Russians or hates them both.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 06:06 AM (w6S0H)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 06:08 AM (0cOaq)
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The EU are blackmailers and will get their vig and control of his space lasers.
Fentanyl is so toxic it should be banned.
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 06:09 AM (/Chlc)
83 I've read that people who ruin sweaters in dreams are evildoers and its their subconscious trying to process their ceaseless misdeeds.
Posted by: extrapsychotherapy at December 07, 2025
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Then, like Dr. Morbius, I renounce my subconscious and give it up!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 06:10 AM (wzUl9)
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Swamp maple aka Silver maple, is a wonderful tree in the woods maybe, but it fills gutters with “helicopters”.
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I had a big silver maple in my backyard. Upside: It was in a quarter where it provided maximum shade to the house during summer afternoons. Downside: as you say, it was a messy tree. I would from time to time have an arborist trim it up so it looked good and didn't have so many branches to drop. Then it died.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 06:12 AM (0cOaq)
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Jimmy Stewart was a “believable” actor, at least when I listen to The Six Shooter radio program he starred in. I would say he was pretty one dimensional, he just played himself. But hisself was pretty dang good. He was a B-17 pilot during the war, and maintained flying status for some time. I think he may have flown a sortie or two in Viet Nam even.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 06:12 AM (2Fnww)
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He was a B-17 pilot during the war, and maintained flying status for some time. I think he may have flown a sortie or two in Viet Nam even.
Posted by: Common Tater
B-24
Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2025 06:14 AM (lJ0H4)
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Someone put out a nice map, visually comparing Europe to the EU:
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I have my opinions on why the Left created The War of NATO Aggression but I haven’t decided if Putin is a thief in on the con or simply knows it’s a con and is robbing the robbers.
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 06:15 AM (/Chlc)
We had one in the middle of our front yard yet close to the street. Our arborist recommended yanking it out and got no argument from us.
When we bought this place 25+ years ago there was a real dog's breakfast selection of trees on the property. Bedraggled conifers and oaks. And two Bradford Pears. All but one are now gone, and they went with extreme prejudice. The last conifer's final days will come to an end this spring.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 07, 2025 06:18 AM (xG4kz)
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Money laundering thru the bank of EU could build a continent. Sad that Africa has to suffer their savage culture.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 06:19 AM (w6S0H)
93 Jimmy Stewart was a “believable” actor, at least when I listen to The Six Shooter radio program he starred in. I would say he was pretty one dimensional, he just played himself. But hisself was pretty dang good. He was a B-17 pilot during the war, and maintained flying status for some time. I think he may have flown a sortie or two in Viet Nam even.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025
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His George Bailey and a lot of his lighter roles might have reflected himself. But see some of the 'dark" Westerns he starred in during the 1950s like The Man From Laramie and The Naked Spur. Something raw comes out there in many scenes, something you would not want to see if it was set against you.
He has an early (1930s) film role -- I won't tell you which one to preserve the fun -- in which he appears for 95% of the film to be a nice guy, and then at the end is revealed as a snarling killer. And he is believable at both.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 06:19 AM (wzUl9)
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I would from time to time have an arborist trim it up so it looked good and didn't have so many branches to drop. Then it died.
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You’re kidding, right? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a dead one. I thought they were impossible to kill, actually. lol.
My parents planted two of them in the front yard. They weren’t great tree climbing, but I managed. I had all the branches memorized and could climb to the top blindfolded probably. The house was at one of the highest points in our fair city, suddenly I could see for miles! I like silver Maples, but they should probably be illegal in a landscape situation.
As it turns out there aren’t really very many tree species that check all the boxes for good landscaping in a street environment or suburbia.
After all the American Elms died many cities looked completely barren for years. One of the replacements at the time was the green Ash, that too has now fallen almost completely victim to a type of invasive borer.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 06:21 AM (2Fnww)
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The Ukrainians are of no strategic value to us. The Russians (from whom we peacefully bought Alaska, for whom we brokered a treaty with the Japanese in 1905, with whom we were allies in WW1) *could* have been a valuable counter-weight against West Taiwan (formerly known as China), but we've pushed them to bond closer to the CCP.
Since I believe there is more evidence of the Ukrainian government has funneled more money to corrupt the US government more than the Russians have been able to do, I hate them more.
What's really annoying is that we started dealing with the CCP to be a counter-weight against the USSR. Nixon couldn't see the future, but God damn it, he fucked a lot of shit up. Maybe his leaving early prevented his plans from coming to fruition, but that would be a reason to not leave willingly.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at December 07, 2025 06:21 AM (yB/+Q)
96 Someone put out a nice map, visually comparing Europe to the EU:
https://tinyurl.com/3txz7v9x
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
Nailed it in one!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 07, 2025 06:21 AM (xG4kz)
97 Jimmy Stewart was a “believable” actor, at least when I listen to The Six Shooter radio program he starred in. I would say he was pretty one dimensional, he just played himself. . . .
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025
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One might say the same of his friend Henry Fonda. But see his turn as a quiet, ruthless killer in Once Upon a Time in the West.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 06:22 AM (wzUl9)
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His George Bailey and a lot of his lighter roles might have reflected himself. But see some of the 'dark" Westerns he starred in during the 1950s like The Man From Laramie and The Naked Spur. Something raw comes out there in many scenes, something you would not want to see if it was set against you.
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His character in "Flight of the Phoenix" was actually kinda dark.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 06:23 AM (0cOaq)
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Time I changed, stretched, and headed out for my exercise session. Later, folken.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 06:23 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 07, 2025 06:24 AM (bQ4nt)
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86 He was a B-17 pilot during the war, and maintained flying status for some time. I think he may have flown a sortie or two in Viet Nam even.
Posted by: Common Tater
B-24
Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2025 06:14 AM (lJ0H4)
Liberator!
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 06:25 AM (RuTUS)
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100 C
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 07, 2025 06:24 AM (bQ4nt)
; )
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 06:26 AM (RuTUS)
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But see some of the 'dark" Westerns he starred in during the 1950s like The Man From Laramie and The Naked Spur.
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Hm… I didn’t know that, I’ll have to check those out. Thanks!
My favorite Six Shooter episode, the church needs a new organ, and they cajole Jimmy into fundraising. He gets all the rough dirty outlaws on the lam to donate, somehow. Another episode, he gets corralled into judging a strawberry preserves contest, brutal cut throat competition. He finally breaks the log jam by declaring the winner is not between the actual contestants, but at the local diner.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 06:27 AM (2Fnww)
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G'Day everyone
I guess I ought to get up at some point today
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 06:27 AM (Ia/+0)
105 The 'shielding' is gone & 'safety' is nil, but the structure will hold and 'monitoring' is active. Yay. *eyeroll*
Posted by: JQ
Is former Soviet Union. You pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 07, 2025 06:28 AM (xG4kz)
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NYC plants a lot of male ginkgoes. Mulberries are plentiful in south Jamaica. I see Paki’s trying the berries.
Our Trinnie neighbor had a mulberry and silver maple on her side of the property line. She took the mulberry out first and then the maple so she can have her garden.
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 06:28 AM (8jVAy)
The question that caused them to use violence against me: “You just encouraged this entire crowd to chant ‘the National Guard is racist — can you cite an example?”
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Ginkos are good street trees, pollution tolerant. They are a “living fossil” maybe the air was dirtier in the Pleistocene or whatever? They were thought to be extinct, known only from the fossil record iirc. Then they were found growing at a Japanese monastery. They are interesting in that usually they drop all their leaves at once. Makes for easier raking anyhow.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 06:34 AM (2Fnww)
Daniel
@growing_daniel
9h
Bro brainstorming with fentanyl smugglers how to get bad PR for the country he calls home
@cturnbull1968
Dec 5
What’s Pete Hegseth going to do when these cocaine smugglers start carrying women and children in the boats, which will inevitably happen?
No more videos or no more missiles?
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 06:35 AM (RuTUS)
111 We had our wave of dead trees caused by ash borers about five years ago. The entire neighborhood had at least one tree removal service at work practically every week from May into September. As the neighborhood has been around for seventy years now, practically every large tree is that age and they are beginning to expire on their own volition.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 07, 2025 06:35 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 06:37 AM (Ia/+0)
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We had our wave of dead trees caused by ash borers about five years ago. The entire neighborhood had at least one tree removal service at work practically every week from May into September.
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Two years ago, we had a nasty blizzard. Lots of trees and big branches down. The arborists were busy for quite some time.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 06:37 AM (0cOaq)
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They don’t kill National Guard because they are racist. The call the National Guard racist so they can kill them.
That’s why all the invective and hateful rhetoric. It’s the same playbook used everywhere for 250 years at least. “Otherize” the enemy. They have ramped this up to eleventy in recent years, clearly there are forces at work demanding open conflict and the “media” is more than willing to help facilitate this. Orders is orders, I supoose.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 06:38 AM (2Fnww)
Sarah Fields retweeted
DataRepublican (small r)
@DataRepublican
9h
Pray for Nick. He is a good friend and he really puts everything out there because he is a fearless foot warrior of God.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 06:39 AM (RuTUS)
X Freeze @XFreeze
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10h
𝕏 just terminated the EU Commission's ad account
Details:
https://tinyurl.com/bn32nuzz
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 06:39 AM (EYUUI)
wow
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 06:42 AM (RuTUS)
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I don't know who this guy is but his words are true:
Rob H @RobH02050318
I can’t believe I’m saying this, having always been a staunch supporter of NATO but this what I think now:
The U.S. created NATO to protect the liberty of west Europeans. Now that many European Nations have abandoned their desires for those liberties there is no reason for the U.S. to be in the Alliance.
Make mutual defense treaties with Poland and the various other countries like Poland that are aligned our values and let the west Europeans go their own ways.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 06:39 AM (EYUUI)
wow
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 06:42 AM (RuTUS)
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X's product manager:
Nikita Bier @nikitabier
12h
The irony of your announcement:
You logged into your dormant ad account to take advantage of an exploit in our Ad Composer — to post a link that deceives users into thinking it’s a video and to artificially increase its reach.
As you may be aware, X believes everyone should have an equal voice on our platform. However, it seems you believe that the rules should not apply to your account.
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- Wondering how much silver is on those boards of that 20 year old or so Dell tower I took apart yesterday. And if there's anyone out there who buys em instead of just 'you can drop those off here for recycling.'
Then there's those little, yellow tabs on em.
Posted by: TeeJ at December 07, 2025 07:00 AM (jMlHD)
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Urgh. Raining. Guess I'll do breakfast instead, then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 07:00 AM (wzUl9)
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I think he may have flown a sortie or two in Viet Nam even.
Posted by: Common Tater
I seem to remember he stayed in the reserves, rose to the rank of General. I think he was involved with the strategic bombers flying the tripwire over the artic. At any rate, the Eighth Air Force was not a comfy, cozy billet during the war. The losses sustained were breath taking.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at December 07, 2025 07:01 AM (cxFcK)
I searched that article for the word "mirror".
I didn't find it.
I am somehow, not surprised.
The author (Mark Hemmingway) should turn in his man card immediately.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 07, 2025 07:12 AM (O7YUW)
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No, air raids were insanely dangerous. Flying is dangerous enough as it is, never mind people trying their best to shoot the plane down, blow it up, cannon fire, flak.
Curtis LeMay rose to prominence partly because he advocated a straight line approach flight plan to the target. Previously they had zig zagged or something like that. This was largely unworkable.
Everybody at the briefing said he was nuts, and would get a lot of people killed. They were correct, but LeMay pointed out he would be piloting the lead plane, the very plane the enemy would shoot down first. He was a remarkable individual. This strategy worked, his crews had success where others didn’t. He knew how to treat subordinates and kept maintenance crews happier, etc. you can train people to become great leaders but the really great ones figured it out early and did it on their own somehow. These guys are never appreciated until they are needed.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 07:13 AM (jIaF7)
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"Wondering how much silver is on those boards of that 20 year old or so Dell tower"
Teej, having disposed of 100s of PCs over the years I have wondered the same thing. I looked into it and while it is possible on a small scale to retrieve the gold and silver from computers, it's a difficult and nasty process that is not really worth the effort unless you have nothing better to do. All old PCs I get nowadays go on the scrap trailer to be sold at maybe 7 cents a pound.
mornin yall
Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 07:18 AM (vFG9F)
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If you already watched the USCG videos of a coke boat's engine being taken out by a Barret sniper in a chopper, here's the video from the CG craft boarding and securing the enemy ship:
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The EU has been pulling off this same trick ever since they went after Microsoft for having the audacity to include their own browser with Windows (Internet Explorer).
While I agree IE was a crappy browser that I avoided at all costs because, at the time, it was a magnet for ever malware that existed, and I spent many hours of my life back then repairing people’s machines who’d been infected, MS didn’t deserve the judgement or fines or remedy that were forced on them.
There were only a few browsers out at the time, and Netscape, the instigator of the entire drama, wasn’t packing anything special in Navigator, which proved true as they went out of business a few years later only to partially re-emerge later as Mozilla/Firefox.
Then the EU tried to go after M$ for including Windows Media Player in Windows which is sort of like going after GM for putting AC Delco radios in their cars.
I noticed they never went after Apple for putting QuickTime Player in MacOS, since forever, and they sold the software & hardware!
Probably because Apple had a minuscule market share at the time and M$ was Mr. Monopoly Moneybags.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 07:21 AM (6ydKt)
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139 a coke boat's engine being taken out by a Barret sniper in a chopper
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 07:18 AM (EYUUI)
heh; coke boat
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 07:22 AM (RuTUS)
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Say you just finished burning a fire ant anthill and you notice two ants have survived and are back on the hill, waving their little antennas at you. Do you let these two survivors survive, knowing they are still fire ants and would bite you if they could? I say no, I would not.
Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 07:23 AM (vFG9F)
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Israel has a new incoming Mossad chief. Video of him wounded on Oct. 7, 2023. No gore but a grim situation:
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> If you already watched the USCG videos of a coke boat's engine being taken out by a Barret sniper in a chopper, here's the video from the CG craft boarding and securing the enemy ship
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Nothing beats that badass video of a USCG guy jumping from the pursuit boat onto the deck of a narco's semi-submersible drug running boat and ripping open the hatch. 6 years ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQWcHOTdGgc
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 07:25 AM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 07:31 AM (RuTUS)
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YouTube wants 20$/month for ad free viewing. Solution is YouTube free viewing
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 07:31 AM (T8bqm)
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"Yeah, sometime back I saw a couple vids of people doing the "recovery" thing.
Nope, not gonna go there.
Posted by: TeeJ "
One method is basically the same as what some gold panners used to do. Crush the chips and mix some mercury with the dust. Then recover the mercury and burn it off, leaving the gold that had combined with it.
Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 07:32 AM (vFG9F)
The recycler in town gets most of the electronic waste in Kansas.
I had a way, using a dodgy Chinese Patent, to turn them into a rare earth, gold, and copper mine. But the procedure needed industrial-sized acid vats. The city was difficult. So that plan ended.
I was not concerned over the Patent's intellectual property. It was similar to other recycling procedures, and was better than a ball milling operation near residences. Turn around and all that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2025 07:38 AM (u82oZ)
You are very sophisticated for an A/I. Bravo to your two programmers. Do you call them Mom and Dad?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2025 07:42 AM (u82oZ)
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What is WW2 was a war between heresies and both are strongly antisemitic?
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 07:42 AM (8jVAy)
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> Last F-1 race in 20 minutes
Posted by: Skip
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Also the last F-1 race broadcast in the US for a while. The series is moving to AppleTV streaming next year.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 07:42 AM (NwnyJ)
I think you have to kill enough of the target population to make them believe that your aren't fucking around when you tell them to stop acting like they were whilst you were killing them.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at December 07, 2025 07:44 AM (yB/+Q)
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TJM,'s movie suggestions are showing up on my YouTube
Late Spring the Japanese movie appears as a suggestion.
Maybe later today
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 07:45 AM (Ia/+0)
An infantry companies worth of Jewish intellectuals, scientists, engineers, artists, etc. was driven out of Germany. Plus all the waste of killing 8 million people. They lost big time, and their women were raped repeatedly by the Soviets.
Should be a cautionary tale. But Leftists never learn.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2025 07:45 AM (u82oZ)
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How is the new situation working out?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2025 07:40 AM (u82oZ)
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It's going quite well. Thank you for asking.
Working from home is an adjustment, but I find I can be quite productive.
176We had our wave of dead trees caused by ash borers about five years ago. The entire neighborhood had at least one tree removal service at work practically every week from May into September. As the neighborhood has been around for seventy years now, practically every large tree is that age and they are beginning to expire on their own volition.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 07, 2025 06:35 AM (xG4kz)
Every time someone in my neighborhood has their trees trimmed by "four guys in a truck", cuz it's cheaper, I have nightmares for days about Oak Wilt.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 07, 2025 07:46 AM (ExV1e)
World War II was over.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 07:05 AM"
September 2nd, 1946,
My parents got married.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 07:46 AM (/kUUQ)
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On that Meta glasses thing, some states are two party agreement meaning both the camera person and the person being filmed have to agree to the act of being filmed. Don't know about nyc. Alabama is a single party agreement state, so on the camera person needs to approve. Now we get into ethics of what gets recorded... kids are right out. Pervy shit is legal, but you'll get your ass kicked (as it should be).
I run front and ream dash cams on all my vehicles, and both motorcycles. Has saved my ass in a redlight runner t-bone.
So mixed emotions. Nyc subway dude filming pervy shit....yeah he got what he deserved. Karen needs her ass kicked as well for damaging personal property though.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 07:46 AM (QVmho)
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"But the procedure needed industrial-sized acid vats."
Yeah. First the acid, then the mercury. Even without using the mercury process it's nasty.
I think maybe sometime in the future there might be nanobots that will be able to go into landfills and separate the garbage into it's constituent parts, including the gold and rare earth metals. Our garbage will be a gift to future generations
Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 07:46 AM (vFG9F)
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Breakfast is done. Time I went to noodle around on the desktop computer.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2025 07:46 AM (wzUl9)
Nikita Bier
@nikitabier
Dec 2
About This Account has now been used over 360 million times since launch -- and has one of the highest DAU of any new feature we've launched this year (only behind the new link experience).
Nikita Bier
@nikitabier
Nov 22
In a couple hours, we'll be rolling out About This Account globally, allowing you to see the country or region where an account is based. This will be accessible by tapping the signup date on profiles.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 07:52 AM (RuTUS)
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The only thing lefties learned is to be on the winning team.
I think that explains a lot of pundits going rogue: the money is only a cover for the change of heart.
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 07:53 AM (/Chlc)
On the PC, browser Adblockers are still doing wonders.
So I don’t feel bad, YT is still shoving ads at inopportune times for about half of my visits.
YouTube Premium is now at $13.99 a month.
It was a much better deal at $5.99/month which was only a few years ago.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 07:55 AM (6ydKt)
191
At American Thinker- Europe is dying is a eye opener
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 07:55 AM (Ia/+0)
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Good to hear. Do you teach via Zoom, or on campus? And are homework assignments emailed to you so you don't have to grade papers?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2025 07:47 AM (u82oZ)
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I teach on campus MWF. It's only a few miles away.
As for grading, all that's done electronically via the Learning Management System. No physical papers at all.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:03 AM (RuTUS)
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198 TDS has Democrats/ Marxists defending drug runners
There isn't anything TDS can't do
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 08:02 AM (Ia/+0)
So true; tying themselves into knots.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:03 AM (RuTUS)
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- The recovery vids I saw were doing the acid thing.
Looked like they were somewhere in Mumbindiastan.
Felt bad for the folks having to resort to that.
**wonders about just using a file to file off the solder nubs**
An "I'm bored" winter project? Like powder painting bulk jig heads? 🤣
Posted by: TeeJ at December 07, 2025 08:03 AM (jMlHD)
203Ads are making You Tube unwatchable.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2025 07:28 AM (u82oZ)
Brave. Youtube ads problem solved.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 07, 2025 08:05 AM (ExV1e)
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>198 TDS has Democrats/ Marxists defending drug runners
There isn't anything TDS can't do
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one crazed Democrat said those bins and barrels in the drug boats might be suitcases
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:05 AM (ZxPkt)
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17 Edwin Land, of Polaroid fame, had a lot to do with improving high altitude photography. In those days the captains of industry did things for their country not necessarily for money.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 04:21 AM (B4klT)
And in all days, I imagine.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:06 AM (RuTUS)
206Last F-1 race in 20 minutes
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 07:36 AM (Ia/+0)
F-1 has been banned?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 07, 2025 08:06 AM (ExV1e)
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204 >198 TDS has Democrats/ Marxists defending drug runners
There isn't anything TDS can't do
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one crazed Democrat said those bins and barrels in the drug boats might be suitcases
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:05 AM (ZxPkt)
omigosh
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:07 AM (RuTUS)
208 Russia is downwind of Ukraine. Best reason for no first use of nuclear weapons by Russia.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Just remembering being in the ash and smoke radioactive cloud back in Germany when it melted down. Prevailing winds were blowing it all mostly due west at the time. If it harms people, countries, and governments that hate me. Oh well.
I loathe the UKR assholes, Russia as well. The outright piracy and banditry of most of Europe towards the U.S are neck and neck racing Russia and UKR for whom I despise most.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 08:08 AM (QVmho)
That means no one attending will have firsthand memories of serving during the attack, which killed more than 2,300 troops and catapulted the US into World War 2. The development is not a surprise and is an evolution of an ongoing trend.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:12 AM (RuTUS)
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The EU is great! It allows me to dress up in my gimp outfit and fondle Bill Gates's man titties while getting the poors to eat ze bugs!
Posted by: Klaus Schwab, Weirdo and Closeted Homosexual at December 07, 2025 08:14 AM (R/m4+)
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When I watch YouTubeTV live here in Accomack, I get the Virginia Beach stations. The recorded versions of games, however, are from NYC local stations.
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 08:15 AM (/Chlc)
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My mom’s dad was born 12/6. I was born 12/7. He did war stuff with Linde in Buffalo. Neither the attack nor the war ever came up during b’day parties.
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 08:20 AM (/Chlc)
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I have to turn off the ad blocker on Brave on the iPad or pages just won't load. Doesn't seem to do that on the phone.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2025 08:21 AM (+mUZM)
Posted by: Zombie Mr. Fuji at December 07, 2025 08:26 AM (oftw2)
232So mixed emotions. Nyc subway dude filming pervy shit....yeah he got what he deserved. Karen needs her ass kicked as well for damaging personal property though.
I think its funny because NYC is right up there with the most public cameras like Babylon DC, London and many Chinese cities.
She takes out one camera, yet at least two others live stream / record the event in living color.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 08:27 AM (a4flb)
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I have to turn off the ad blocker on Brave on the iPad or pages just won't load. Doesn't seem to do that on the phone.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2025 08:21
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That just started happening on my iPhone. I reported the problem to Brave for whatever that's worth.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 07, 2025 08:29 AM (bQ4nt)
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Allie settled into my lap just as I was finishing up my book. Now I'm stuck...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 07, 2025 08:20 AM (ESVrU)
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So no book thread for another 12 hours or so?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 08:23 AM (EYUUI)
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Crisis averted. She moved out of my lap.
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My iPhone 13 would crash loading the site. The 17 ProMax doesn’t. iPad is 2 y/o. Handles the site well.
Tinyurl has gone wonky to the point where I don’t click links unless it’s to a text only X
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 08:35 AM (8jVAy)
236Someone needs to just say it: The Democrats have become the country's first overtly anti-American political party.
Anti-American since April of 1861
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 08:35 AM (a4flb)
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236 Someone needs to just say it: The Democrats have become the country's first overtly anti-American political party.
Anti-American since April of 1861
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 07, 2025 08:35 AM (a4flb)
Don't forget their platform through the decades...
pro-slavery
pro jim crow laws
pro segregation
against anti-lynching laws
against suffrage for women
lovers of fascism/not-sees
pro-abortion
pro commie
...
their latest stuff is just a natural progression of their values.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 08:42 AM (ynpvh)
238
What’s good for America is bad for Democrats.
-Maja Rushie
Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 08:43 AM (8jVAy)
https://t.co/dVh6TnnVLC
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 08:17 AM (EYUUI)
Rosie O'Donnell content and photo warning!
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:44 AM (RuTUS)
241
Guard duty after Dec 7 at Pearl caused a lot of people to crack up.
“Tap tap tap” metal on metal at night of guys trapped in the capsized battleships went on for weeks. No way to get them out
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 08:44 AM (8JbE1)
242
one crazed Democrat said those bins and barrels in the drug boats might be suitcases
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:05 AM (ZxPkt)
omigosh
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:07 AM (RuTUS)
I saw that. Of course lost luggage is returned to the US packed in blue barrels and carried by speedboats all the time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 08:46 AM (c7Ygk)
243
Here's the guy saying those bundles in the drug boats are 'packages' that might be 'suitcases'
https://x.com/amuse/status/
1997632761146794263
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:47 AM (ZxPkt)
244
Santa Claus just put a raccoon in my tinyurl.com/CageyMcCageFace.
Posted by: Marooned at December 07, 2025 08:48 AM (kt8QE)
245
243 Here's the guy saying those bundles in the drug boats are 'packages' that might be 'suitcases'
https://x.com/amuse/status/
1997632761146794263
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:47 AM (ZxPkt)
Thank you. The comments are pretty good.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:48 AM (RuTUS)
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241 Guard duty after Dec 7 at Pearl caused a lot of people to crack up.
“Tap tap tap” metal on metal at night of guys trapped in the capsized battleships went on for weeks. No way to get them out
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 08:44 AM (8JbE1)
And really nothing that could be done. My Dad was a mid-teenager at the time (ended up serving near the end of the war in the Philippines and later Japan). He remembered hearing about Pearl Harbor on the radio with his folks. Dad passed away four years ago; his centennial is coming up next year...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 08:49 AM (ynpvh)
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245 243 Here's the guy saying those bundles in the drug boats are 'packages' that might be 'suitcases'
https://x.com/amuse/status/
1997632761146794263
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:47 AM (ZxPkt)
Thank you. The comments are pretty good.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:48 AM (RuTUS)
So filled with ballots destined for some dem sh!thole city for the next election?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 08:49 AM (ynpvh)
248
And finally saw an explanation of the blue barrels - they are watertight, they float, and each carries a transponder. They will be dropped into the ocean about 12 miles out from their destination, and the speedboat will turn back. Then small fishing boats with the transponder codes will come out from the destination and pick up one or two at a time; they will completely blend into the normal harbor traffic in the area.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 08:50 AM (c7Ygk)
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243 Here's the guy saying those bundles in the drug boats are 'packages' that might be 'suitcases'
https://x.com/amuse/status/
1997632761146794263
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:47 AM (ZxPkt)
They're filled with water now...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 08:50 AM (ynpvh)
250
Yes
And travelers sending their luggage ahead on speedboats is a thing
FFS
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:54 AM (ZxPkt)
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201 198 TDS has Democrats/ Marxists defending drug runners
There isn't anything TDS can't do
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 08:02 AM (Ia/+0)
Some of them have more personal reasons for being Big Mad - read a report that street prices for Cocaine have already gone up by 1/3 in the Netherlands since the US started blowing up boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 08:54 AM (c7Ygk)
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228 221 Ads are making You Tube unwatchable.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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I always get the ad about Harold and his metastatic prostate cancer.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 07, 2025 08:17 AM (XvL8K)
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And it's all the fault of one of our better know morons.
I constantly am forced to click on the buttion "Skip."
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 08:19 AM (EYUUI)
I--very seriously--think of "our" Skip every time I click that button.
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:24 AM (RuTUS)
There's code for that, but this website no likey as too long a string, so I'll add CR to it:
javascriptfunction(){var s = prompt("Playback Speed:");
if (s!==null){document.getElementsByClassName
('html5-main-video')[0].playbackRate = s;}})();
Use this and you can set even the speed of ads. Go too fast, and Youtube will accuse you of using an ad blocker...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 08:57 AM (ynpvh)
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225 I have to turn off the ad blocker on Brave on the iPad or pages just won't load. Doesn't seem to do that on the phone.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2025 08:21 AM (+mUZM)
Same here, well for AoSHQ anyhow.
I gave up trying to figure it out on the iPad and just turned the shields off. Loads fine then.
The iPhone, on the other hand, refuses to load it on a 4G connection no matter what I do.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 08:57 AM (6ydKt)
254
There are two characters this site decided to turn into a pic, a colon ":" and a parenthesis "(" in the above...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 08:58 AM (ynpvh)
255
Grab your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOK NOOD
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 08:59 AM (ynpvh)
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Has anybody at the War Department revealed what type of ordnance is being used in the boat strikes? I imagine a drone launched missile, like a Hellfire. This could start getting pricey and it may be cheaper to keep an AC130 loitering in known trafficking areas. At least it would be more fun to watch.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 08:59 AM (gm9Sb)
258
One thing I wondered about, was the circuitous route Mexican weed took to make it to the hinterlands of the US. Called “mud bud” by many (that’s what i heard, anyway, cough) it was often a deep brown. Oxidized. Green weed does that, eventually. But it takes months, or more, and loses potency. That’s what I heard. When green sinsemilla arrived on the scene it was a revelation, as “smells pretty green, boys” was not a compliment up until that time. That’s what I heard.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 09:00 AM (8JbE1)
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255 Grab your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOK NOOD
Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)
But I'm wearing forbidden pants...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 09:01 AM (ynpvh)
260
one crazed Democrat said those bins and barrels in the drug boats might be suitcases
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 08:05 AM (ZxPkt)
omigosh
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 08:07 AM (RuTUS)
I saw that. Of course lost luggage is returned to the US packed in blue barrels and carried by speedboats all the time.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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The barrels are probably filled with fuel for those big engines on the boats. The bundles are the drugs.
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One thing I wondered about, was the circuitous route Mexican weed took to make it to the hinterlands of the US. Called “mud bud” by many (that’s what i heard, anyway, cough) it was often a deep brown. Oxidized. Green weed does that, eventually. But it takes months, or more, and loses potency. That’s what I heard. When green sinsemilla arrived on the scene it was a revelation, as “smells pretty green, boys” was not a compliment up until that time. That’s what I heard.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 07, 2025 09:00 AM (8JbE1)
We called it Mexican Dirt Weed.
It's the stuff that you'd have to break apart because they'd pack it so tight in bricks for smuggling that it would still be in brick form a few weeks later by the time it was on the street.
It's very difficult to find dirt weed these days but people don't want it anyhow. Most stuff available is hydroponic bud grown indoors under lights or in greenhouses.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 09:10 AM (6ydKt)
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Ads are making You Tube unwatchable.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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I always get the ad about Harold and his metastatic prostate cancer.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 07, 2025 08:17 AM (XvL8K)
Ads?? What are they?
Posted by: Brave-The Ony Browser You';; Ever Need at December 07, 2025 09:20 AM (5xuJ/)
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Constellation Energy Corporation has been buying up land along PA 724, South of the Limerick nuclear power plant, which is owned by Constellation, for a data center.
Constellation Energy Corporation has previously signed an agreement with Microsoft to reopen the undamaged nuclear unit at Three Mile Island.
Posted by: SMOD at December 07, 2025 09:28 PM (GITLP)
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You know, that Limerick area hardly had enough river water for the two nuclear reactors that are there. I suppose there’s a way around that.
Posted by: SMOD at December 07, 2025 09:39 PM (GITLP)
Saturday Night "Club ONT" December 6, 2025 [The 3 Ds]
Welcome to Club ONT. A collaboration the 3D's - The Disco, The Dino, and The Doggo. We are officially in the "Turkey-to-Tinsel Gap" portion of the holiday season. People are pretending to work, and many are in the early stages of convincing themselves they will "begin eating healthy tomorrow" - which means Monday, or later. The Club does not endorse such ideas of slimming and trimming over the holiday season.
The 3D's are here to help you slide into a bit of mischief, joy, and lighthearted fun. The doorman? We don't think the doorman is coming back from vacation. Please see yourselves in.
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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies
A bear walks into a bar. He says to the bartender, "I'll have a............beer." The bartender responds, "what's with the big pause?"
The bear holds up his arms and says, "always had 'em."
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Two guys are out drinking when one of them falls off his bar stool and lies motionless on the floor.
"One thing about Fred" his buddy says to the barman, "He knows when to stop"
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Drinks of the Night
Playing card drinks return. Wow - into the 4s now!
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For Our Patrons Who No Do Not Partake
Mom's Eggnog
1 cup white sugar
1/3 cup all-purpose flour
2 quarts whole milk
4 egg yolks
4 egg whites
4 teaspoons white sugar
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
1 pinch ground nutmeg
1 cup whipped cream, garnish
In a large saucepan, stir together sugar and flour. Gradually stir in the milk. Bring to a boil over medium heat. In a small bowl, whisk egg yolks until smooth. Ladle a small amount of the hot milk into the yolks and quickly whisk in. Pour the tempered yolk mixture back into the hot milk. Cook, stirring constantly, until mixture comes to a boil. Remove from heat and allow to cool.
In a medium glass or metal bowl, beat egg whites until foamy. Gradually add 4 teaspoons sugar, continuing to beat until stiff peaks form. fold whites into eggnog and refrigerate until chilled. Serve garnished with a dollop of whipped cream and a dash of nutmeg.
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The beverage that needs no marketing budget for you to know it exists. The brand is deserving of some Horde slogans and taglines.
Sound is terrible in the mystery click. Visuals tell the story.
RC Cola, and you thought TikTok was mainstream.
RC Cola, because influencers have no taste.
RC Cola, the underdog that refuses to pay for fame.
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If you're talking about RC Cola, you better grab a Moon Pie!
What's that - you're not familiar with this combo? We can help!
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Club ONT Department of History and Religion
Happy St. Nicholas Day! The "Feast of Saint Nicholas" is celebrated on December 6 each year (although some celebrate on the December 5 eve). The American Santa Claus, as well as the British Father Christmas, derive from Saint Nicholas.
St. Nicholas was a bishop known for his good deeds, especially those that helped children and the needy. He often gave generously and without anyone knowing the gifts were from him. Nicholas was officially recognized as a saint in the 800s, and in the 1200s, Catholics in France began celebrating Bishop Nicholas Day on December 6.
Many European countries celebrate the Feast of Sinterklaas - also known as St. Nicholas - starting on the 5th of December, the eve of the day, by sharing candies, chocolate letters, small gifts, and riddles. Children put out their shoes filled with carrots and hay for the saint's horse the evening prior, hoping St. Nicholas will exchange them for small gifts. Source
St. Nicholas does not operate alone...
In most areas where Krampus is known, the tradition is that St. Nicholas visits children on the night of December 5 (St. Nicholas Eve) or on December 6 (St. Nicholas's Day), leaving presents much like Santa Claus in American tradition. On these visits, St. Nicholas is often accompanied by a Krampus.
In his role as St. Nicholas’s companion, Krampus's main duty is to punish or threaten naughty children while the saint rewards good ones. This can be seen as one of the many variations of the "good cop/ bad cop" or "carrot and stick" approach to managing children’s behavior - and Krampus literally wields a stick, or more commonly a bunch of birch twigs, to discipline children. If this isn't sufficient, St. Nicholas's Krampus companion often carries a basket or a sack, into which he is said to stuff naughty children to take them away and punish later at greater length. Source
Are you a well behaved Moron or are you getting a visit from Krampus this year? (Public service announcement: Do not confuse Krampus with the Wumpus. Very different.)
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Club ONT Eye-Pokers
The Old State Saloon is at it again (scroll through to see their daily specials).
Amusement park of promotions that put liberals on tilt. In September, they ran a follow up on their June Heterosexual Awesomeness Month with the Hetero Fest.
Currently, they are offering free beer for a month for anyone who helps ICE identify and deport an illegal from Idaho.
"ALERT: Anyone who helps ICE identify and ultimately deport an illegal from Idaho gets FREE BEER FOR ONE MONTH at Old State Saloon!"
When word of the deal spread online, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) reacted with a gif of a dinosaur character dropping what appeared to be a beer can while it had a dumbfounded look on its face:
A petrol fuel stabilizer is a chemical additive formulated specifically to slow the degradation of gasoline, protect against ethanol-related issues, and keep the fuel system clean during long-term storage.
It prevents the two biggest problems in stored gasoline:
Oxidation
Ethanol moisture absorption + phase separation
Without a stabilizer, petrol can become unreliable in 30-60 days.
A diesel fuel stabilizer is a specially formulated chemical additive that slows the degradation of diesel fuel, prevents microbial growth, controls water contamination, improves lubricity, and stabilizes the fuel for long-term storage.
Diesel is more complex than petrol, so its stabilizers must address different and more severe degradation mechanisms, especially water contamination and microbial growth.
Lubricity? Marking that one to slide into a future sentence.
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Club ONT Payment Options
The Club would proudly accept Woz's funny money!
Did you know that Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has been using his own custom $2 bills for over 30 years? He doesn't print the money itself, which would be illegal. Instead, he legally purchases large, uncut sheets of genuine $2 bills directly from the U.S. Bureau of Engraving… pic.twitter.com/9bFbUATZMQ
NOTICE: Patrons with flatulence are welcome to utilize their vanvera while inside Club ONT. Rentals are available for those that did not bring their own. Rentals are believed to have been "cleaned" before re-use, but your mileage may vary (similar to bowling shoe or roller skate rentals).
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:03 PM (BW4I7)
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RC Cola is fine. I'd rather get a stockingful of switches and coal than eat a Moonpie. Marshmallow and Graham cracker. Worst snacks ever. Chocolate cannot cover the multitude of this sin.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:06 PM (6p0Jv)
10
Just had an RC cola yesterday. Cashier at Dollar Tree asked me about it. Told her RC was big in the 60s and 70s. It was for those who didn't have enough money for a Coke or Pepsi. Disappeared for a while in my area. Tasted better than house brand colas.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:06 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (lUFok)
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I swear I never heard of Krampus until very recently. It was never mentioned when I was small, I know (I'd have been too terrified to sleep on Dec. 5). And in all my wide reading about supernatural manifestations and beliefs in my adult life, I *never* heard of this entity until just a few years ago. Are we sure it's not a creation of Hollywood so they can have a new horror franchise? The Krampus: Naughty Is Nice (well, okay, that sounds like a pr0n title, but you get the idea)?
Krampus IV: Naughty Is Fatal!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (fveCG)
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What, no bottles of yellow HEET by the checkout? I can’t figure out why that stuff is still sold. When fuel tanks were vented and carburetors ruled, gas line freeze ups were common. A bottle of HEET would set things right. Today fuel systems are completely closed, and most gasoline contains 10% alcohol anyhow.
Related - everyone used to carry jumper cables. If you were thinking ahead anyway. Before electronic ignition, before fuel injection, unless you kept your car in a high state of tune a subzero or below zero engine start was an iffy proposition. I haven’t needed a jump start since forever.
But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (0fIud)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (DJUFe)
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Reckon I gotta pay a visit to Old State Saloon. It's not far down the road. And I think I would like the clientele. But. Gotta have my glowie radar set.
Being an introvert is a good thing, mostly.
Ah, hell, I'll never go. Never mind.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (0aYVJ)
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Saw a funny cartoon: "It's not waterboarding if you use eggnog".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (kpS4V)
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16 Can't stand marshmallow. I liked it as a kid. I also used to like coconut. Don't like it now. Anyone elses food tastes change as the get older?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Heh. I think you and I could do a whole ONT on how time has changed taste buds. Like you, script has flipped here on many, many things too.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (LVaYG)
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (Wmg4n)
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Oh yes, li much prefer St. Nicholas to Santa Claus.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (7RYym)
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Can't stand marshmallow. I liked it as a kid. I also used to like coconut. Don't like it now. Anyone elses food tastes change as the get older?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Yes - I'm with you with marshmallow. Also, I used to be able to eat damn near anything no matter how spicey. Blow-the-top-of-your-head-off hot was a favorite. No more. I can barely do crushed red pepper flakes on my pasta these days.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (cYBz/)
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A cold slice of that meat clown and a bowl of Kaboom with warm reconstituted milk. Mmm mmm mmm, Christmas dinner!
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (GALGA)
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@ 10 Just had an RC cola yesterday. Cashier at Dollar Tree asked me about it. Told her RC was big in the 60s and 70s. It was for those who didn't have enough money for a Coke or Pepsi. Disappeared for a while in my area. Tasted better than house brand colas. ______________________________________
You need to visit Bell Buckle, TN … every year, this li'l town of 430 people hold the 'RC Cola & Moon Pie Festival'. The waitress at the restaurant where my daughter & I had lunch about 3 weeks ago said they get about 100K people over the course of that week. I have NO idea where they park or eat, 'cos we were there in NON-festival time and, even tho' we saw the entire town in 30 minutes or so, there just ain't that much room 'cos it's all built next to each other … but hey, MOON PIES & R-O-C Cola! Win-win every time …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (ayRl+)
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After the first Gulf War, fizzy beverages were difficult to find as supply chains were not re-established quickly, The Embassy chow hall had an RC drink machine that dispensed tepid RC's that were flatter than Rachel Corrie. But we sure as heck drank them after working in 120-130 degree heat. I'll always have a small (tiny) place in my heart for RC because of that.
Posted by: moki at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (wLjpr)
33RC Cola is fine. I'd rather get a stockingful of switches and coal than eat a Moonpie. Marshmallow and Graham cracker. Worst snacks ever. Chocolate cannot cover the multitude of this sin.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025
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Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 swore that RC Cola was the best soft drink, and that Skippy Super Chunk peanut butter was the best in that department.
As for the Moon Pie, maybe it was better decades ago. I had a freebie mini-pie the other night, and it was chalky and reminded me of sweetened sawdust.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (wzUl9)
34
I love egg nog but it is not popular around here.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:12 PM (93/YK)
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Will keep you in prayer, Teresa. Thanks for letting us know the date, dear
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:12 PM (7RYym)
(I would have been here sooner if I had the cheat codes.)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (KDYdw)
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I once had the RC Cola and Moonpie combo. Closest I've ever come to developing diabetes.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (lUFok)
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I used to make egg nog as a kid. The recipe was in one of my mom's cookbooks. Didn't think twice about chugging down raw egg, which now sounds terrible.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (GALGA)
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Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:12 PM (93/YK)
Now that they have lactose free egg I can drink it again.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (7RYym)
41
I find it difficult to respect a site which would include me in its top tenish comments. Very disappointing, heartbreaking even.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (ZTJjv)
42
Hey, Santa deserves a cold one. He's working hard yo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (kpS4V)
My kids would leave me a beer and some kind of salty snack. They knew who Santa is.
We never had to sit them down and give the The Talk.
My folks didn't either. Kids are not dumb, mostly. Just play along.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (0aYVJ)
43But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025
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I have a set in the Buick. Haven't used 'em in years.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (wzUl9)
44 I've never like sodas. I can't stand the carbonation of the sodas.
Posted by: four seasons at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (3ek7K)
45
Reckon I gotta pay a visit to Old State Saloon. It's not far down the road. And I think I would like the clientele. But. Gotta have my glowie radar set.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy
Why can't all States be like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon...hell, Red States in general!
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr)
46 Can't stand marshmallow. I liked it as a kid. I also used to like coconut. Don't like it now. Anyone elses food tastes change as the get older?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I came around to admitting that there are things I don't like. My mom always offered me maaaarrrrsshhhmalloooows! as if they were something special, so I thought they were. In reality, I didn't like them. Now I don't eat them, even if they're lying around free or an option for my cocoa.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (isqj7)
47
Krampus is Metal Santa. Norwegian black metal soundtrack.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 06, 2025 10:15 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (5Je/N)
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Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:10 PM (LVaYG)
Yes, we probably but then we'd sound rather like old grouches😉. There was some poor poster On here recently that can't eat nuts or maybe it was raw nuts. Anyone, I could empathize with his pain.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (7RYym)
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41 I find it difficult to respect a site which would include me in its top tenish comments. Very disappointing, heartbreaking even.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel
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Shakes algorithm machine. Shakes clerical dep't too.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (LVaYG)
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Surgery is scheduled for Thursday (Dec. 11th) at 2:30 pm. Prayers would be appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn.
Best of everything for you. Prayers and hopes for you and your family.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (TfUTr)
55
Tom Seaver was a spokesman for RC Cola and so was Meredith MacRae more than a half-century ago.
Posted by: Cola Wars at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (oftw2)
56
BBIAB. Gonna go walk the hound and look at the Christmas lights.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 10:17 PM (GALGA)
57
I remember all the contortions working people (no garage for many) had to do to get to work on a cold winter morning. Go out about an hour early on Monday morning and (hopefully) get the damn thing started, let it idle and maybe warm up a bit. Steam and exhaust rising everywhere. Alternators moaning and fan belts squeeling. Snow makes crunching noises when it’s really super cold.
The really interesting stories are the early days. Hand crank starters, women and children need not apply. It used to be common to drain the oil out and bring it in the house, and reinstall in the morning. Basically either that, or light a fire under the engine, or use charcoal under the pan all night.
Kerosene was often used for antifreeze. It works, but rubber hoses didn’t care for that too much. Alcohol was used too, but it was expensive, and loses potency over time. Glycol coolant/antifreeze aka “permanent” antifreeze was a big deal, as was the electric starter. To say nothing of power steering.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:18 PM (0fIud)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:18 PM (DJUFe)
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Are we sure it's not a creation of Hollywood so they can have a new horror franchise? The Krampus: Naughty Is Nice (well, okay, that sounds like a pr0n title, but you get the idea)?
Krampus IV: Naughty Is Fatal!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9)
I always thought it was that crazy history group: E Krampus Vitellius.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:18 PM (uQesX)
61
RC Cola was considered "bargain-brand" like Fanta. Or Faygo.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (BW4I7)
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Evening, Three D's, and ONT Horde. I think my chili may be ready. Must go sample.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (zZu0s)
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I carry jumper cables. You don't need 'em until you need 'em.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (Q+gd/)
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Praying Teresa. God bless and keep you and give the surgeons wisdom throughout this procedure.
Posted by: moki at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (wLjpr)
66
DHS) reacted with a gif of a dinosaur character dropping what appeared to be a beer can while it had a dumbfounded look on its face:
Dino...this you?
Good evening all good and naughty Morons😷!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (3pxDZ)
67 First person to mention "grape knee high" gets a nut punch.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (DJUFe)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (3pxDZ)
70I came around to admitting that there are things I don't like. My mom always offered me maaaarrrrsshhhmalloooows! as if they were something special, so I thought they were. In reality, I didn't like them. Now I don't eat them, even if they're lying around free or an option for my cocoa.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (isqj7)
If there are mini-marshmallows hanging around when I make a cup of cocoa, I'll add a few. But only the mini ones. And I won't buy them.
Posted by: RickZ at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (gKDq2)
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Kerosene was often used for antifreeze. It works, but rubber hoses didn’t care for that too much. Alcohol was used too, but it was expensive, and loses potency over time. Glycol coolant/antifreeze aka “permanent” antifreeze was a big deal, as was the electric starter. To say nothing of power steering.
Posted by: Common Tater
Dad used to thank heavens we didn't own anything with a flathead in it.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (TfUTr)
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but hey, MOON PIES & R-O-C Cola! Win-win every time …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (ayRl+)
I'd drink the RC, but ewww. Not that mushmelon thing.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:21 PM (uQesX)
Surgery is scheduled for Thursday (Dec. 11th) at 2:30 pm. Prayers would be appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 06, 2025 10:11 PM (SRRAx)
May every damned thing come out all right!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:22 PM (npFr7)
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>>Marshmallow and Graham cracker. Worst snacks ever. Chocolate cannot cover the multitude of this sin.
If you add the heat from a campfire it becomes magic.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:22 PM (viF8m)
The thing I remember about that band (which made the charts, btw) was that every time I heard something by them I thought to myself, "I could do that. But, I'd have to be really drunk and focused on something else at the time."
They were horrendous, and people paid to see and hear them. For the life of me I don't know why. How am I supposed to make fun of the latest generation's music if at any time they can point to "The Flying Lizards" and blow up my argument?
Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (dIske)
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Marshmallows. I was so thankful to not have to make the disgusting sweet potato marshmallow thing this Thanksgiving.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (6p0Jv)
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Should update the post, but I'll leave it here. Being reported that someone won the Beer For A Month thingy. He turned in a Republican rep that was allegedly hiring illegals at her farm.
https://tinyurl.com/2xx6z3tr
Link goes to Headline USA - never heard of the place.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (LVaYG)
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Watch out tomorrow for Japanese aviators transmitting "Tora, Tora, Tora" tomorrow.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (S/Y4j)
79
RC Cola was my drink until it was bought out and the formula adulterated.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:24 PM (04Glf)
80
December 6, 1917 is the day that the Mont Blanc, a cargo ship carrying explosives bound for the fighting in Europe, collided with another ship, sparking a fire.
Fires are not good on a ship loaded with TNT.
The resulting blast was the largest man-made explosion ever, until the Trinity nuclear test in 1945.
This song tells the story:
https://youtu.be/T_5PHU7vQu4
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:24 PM (KDYdw)
81First person to mention "grape knee high" gets a nut punch.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025
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We had one here, a local soft drink called Big Shot. A Coca-Cola wannabe. We also had Rex Root Beer, a competitor to (or maybe a sub-brand of) Barq's. Barq's was a bit tart, Rex was sweeter.
On a road trip to MS in the early '70s, we saw a brand called Sunrise. Someone quipped, "Drink that stuff and you'll never see another sunrise!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:24 PM (wzUl9)
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66 DHS reacted with a gif of a dinosaur character dropping what appeared to be a beer can while it had a dumbfounded look on its face:
Dino...this you?
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM
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Nope. That's Earl Sinclair.
83The American Santa Claus, as well as the British Father Christmas, derive from Saint Nicholas. Note that there was no Santa Claus, nor even much Christmas at all, in America (at least in the states originally planted by Protestant Religious Dissenters) before the Germans and such came. The Religious Dissenters were all pretty iconoclastic and didn't do "saints" or feast days, except Easter. It was considered idolatry or pretty adjacent thereto.
The Germans (and the Nordic folks) brought "Santa Klaus" and things like the Christmas tree to America. Americans seemed to actually think that was pretty cool, and made it their own.
I think all except the most Grinchy of Christian denominations now accepts that celebrating Jesus' birth is almost as important as celebrating His death and resurrection. Of course, a lot of Americans (including a lot of Christians) have forgotten that's what is being celebrated at Christmas. (And most have forgotten it's supposed to be celebrated from Christmas to Epiphany, with the 4 weeks leading up to Christmas being Advent, when you are celebrating looking forward to Jesus coming, instead of already here.)
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c)
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***If you're talking about RC Cola, you better grab a Moon Pie!
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Brother Dave, is that you?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (04Glf)
85
I swear I never heard of Krampus until very recently.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9)
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Unless you're of Alpine German descent, you wouldn't have. Back in high school, we learned about Krampusnacht and various other folklore that was annihilated in this country when German language newspapers and culture were banned by Woodrow Wilson.
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RC Cola was considered "bargain-brand" like Fanta. Or Faygo.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 10:19 PM (BW4I7)
Yeah, if you didn't have enough pocket change for Coke, you got RC. Isn't Fanta a German creation?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (uQesX)
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f you add the heat from a campfire it becomes magic.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:22 PM (viF8m)
Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (npFr7)
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"Prevents deposits" - so it could work on arterial plaque?
"Removes water" - and it's a diuretic?!
Sounds like a Moron self-help liquid!
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:27 PM (ZjL9c)
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Beer for a month. LOLz I do hope, though , that the saloon doesn't get vandalized . I did notice today that there is a bar about 30 minutes from me that has a Gasden flag outside their establishment . I like it
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:27 PM (7RYym)
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Note that there was no Santa Claus, nor even much Christmas at all, in America (at least in the states originally planted by Protestant Religious Dissenters) before the Germans and such came.
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c)
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Celebrating Christmas was illegal under the Puritans.
95But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard.
Probably since a good lithium battery jump kit is the same price as sturdy jumper cables and takes up far less room in the vehicle.
The Bonus is that you don't need someone friendly nearby who has the time and ability to help.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (a4flb)
96Unless you're of Alpine German descent, you wouldn't have. Back in high school, we learned about Krampusnacht and various other folklore that was annihilated in this country when German language newspapers and culture were banned by Woodrow Wilson.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025
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Oddly, I *am* of German stock (Alpine? Not sure) on my father's side. But he never talked about that or much at all about his family. So I see why I wouldn't have heard of Krampus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (wzUl9)
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The "Pop Shop" "Great tasting sodas for only a nickel!"
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 10:30 PM (pkeXY)
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Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (npFr7)
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When we make s'mores, I'd just eat graham crackers and chocolate. Cooking marshmallows added nothing.
the Germans got the okay from FDR & Henry Ford to bomb Pearl Harbor
Posted by: Soothsayer's Wacky WWII ConspiracyTheories at December 06, 2025 10:31 PM (DJUFe)
102
First person to mention "grape knee high" gets a nut punch.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 10:20 PM (DJUFe)
* * * *
Ha! Used to love grape Nehi!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:31 PM (kB9dk)
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97 The "Pop Shop" "Great tasting sodas for only a nickel!"
Posted by: Some Rat
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My man. Off Sprague & Bowdish...I think.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:31 PM (LVaYG)
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>>Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Proper marshmallow toasting is an art form.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (viF8m)
105
Rained last week, time to cut the grass again.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (04Glf)
106Celebrating Christmas was illegal under the Puritans.
Especially since according to John's Revelation, our LORD was born on what would be today's calendar equivalent of September 11th, 2BC some where around 6:15 PM Standard Jerusalem Time.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (a4flb)
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Prayers continue, Teresa! Everything will be just fine. You are in His good hands!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (kB9dk)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Wacky WWII ConspiracyTheories at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (DJUFe)
109 I once had the RC Cola and Moonpie combo. Closest I've ever come to developing diabetes.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (lUFok)
Rookie move. Shoulda gone with the double decker moon pie!
Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (nB1L/)
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Oddly, I *am* of German stock (Alpine? Not sure) on my father's side. But he never talked about that or much at all about his family. So I see why I wouldn't have heard of Krampus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (wzUl9)
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My great-grandparents spoke fluent German, but under cultural pressure, refused to teach it to their children because it was the language of the enemy.
Long about 1943, my grandfather thought: "Gosh, I wished they'd have taught it to me. Would sure be useful guarding all these German PoWs!"
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Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c)
I am reading a book now for Advent and Christmas which is called "Jesus Listens" with spiritual reflections and Bible quotes. It is by Saran Young who wrote a ton of books ( I haven't read any but this And who died several year ago which also has lovely sweet illustrations mostly of animals in the snow.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (7RYym)
112 Dang if ain't foggy here, pea soup. Temp is 33F, and RH is 100%. However, it isn't cloudy above, and I can see the Moon, Jupiter, Orion, and Sirius, and a couple three or four other bright ones.
The rain gauge on the weather station tripped .01" due to the fog condensation. That's how foggy it is.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (w6EFb)
113
I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (oftw2)
114
Nehi Grape Cola is the best. Orange not so much.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (04Glf)
115
Especially since according to John's Revelation, our LORD was born on what would be today's calendar equivalent of September 11th, 2BC some where around 6:15 PM Standard Jerusalem Time.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:32 PM (a4flb)
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No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit.
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41 I find it difficult to respect a site which would include me in its top tenish comments. Very disappointing, heartbreaking even.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 06, 2025 10:13 PM (ZTJjv)
How do you think the rest of us feel?
But, truly, great comment. We're all expecting big things from you in the future.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:34 PM (KDYdw)
117
It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC at December 06, 2025 10:35 PM (oftw2)
118 I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus
How often do you have to charge it up?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 10:35 PM (pkeXY)
119
My man. Off Sprague & Bowdish...I think.
Posted by: scampydog
Sounds about right...somewhere in the depths of Sainted Mothers domicile, there is a Pop Shop crate. My family throws NOTHING away.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:36 PM (TfUTr)
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>>When we make s'mores, I'd just eat graham crackers and chocolate. Cooking marshmallows added nothing.
Not everyone is gifted with good taste buds.
I will pray for you.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:36 PM (viF8m)
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113 I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at December 06, 2025 10:33 PM (oftw2)
me too
Posted by: E knievel at December 06, 2025 10:37 PM (gbOdA)
123
Are we sure it's not a creation of Hollywood so they can have a new horror franchise?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (wzUl9)
I wonder if it didn't come to America with the other Germanic traditions because of the (mostly Calvinist) Protestant bent of much of America? They would definitely look askance at any celebration involving a demon or other representation of evil.
(Oh, how so much has changed.)
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:37 PM (ZjL9c)
Got your orders, Some Rat & BarelyScaryMary... coming up!
And an extra round -- on me, 'cause late!
Happy Caturday, all!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (rdVOm)
131
As a boy I tried Dr. Pepper. Once. Years later I had it described to me as "carbonated prune juice," and I have to think that was on the money. (Yes, I know Lt. Worf considers it a "warrior's drink.")
The other big treat disappointment of my kidhood was a new flavor of Life Savers. They used to have more than just Pep-O-Mint, Spear-O-Mint, and Wint-O-Green. I was on a (heh) roll, trying them all . . . until I hit Clove. That ended my experiments in candy for a while. I don't recall now what it tasted like, but I know my ten-year-old taste buds Did Not Like It.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (wzUl9)
132No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit.
I suppose that it is the vulgar explanation, but Puritans were committed to the Regulative Principle of Worship and Roman Catholic Tradition, tied to a liturgical calendar and Papal authority was outside explicit commands in Scripture to be part of Worship.
I'm guessing that the Saturnalia tie-in, the Observation of Days (rather than Sabbath) and the usual bacchanalian atmosphere made the 25th of December too pagan for their tastes.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (a4flb)
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But I still carry jumper cables. I must be the last guy, old habits die hard.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:09 PM (0fIud)
Nope. I carry them, too. Saved my kid's bacon once or twice, as well as mine. (I did learn the hard way that the amount of electricity flowing through a jumper cable can melt thick rubber. Do NOT cross the wires when jumping!)
However, I am considering tossing them for a jumpstart device. Because it can also serve as an emergency device for pumping up your tires and recharging your phone (if your car itself is broke).
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (ZjL9c)
Posted by: Radar O'Riley at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (ITBpd)
136
This Indiana - Ohio State game is really entertaining.
No matter how hard they try to ruin college football this has been a day of really good games.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (viF8m)
137 I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus at December 06, 2025
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What are these things called, and where can you buy one?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9)
138
Campfire in the back yard, which is on 6 acres and isolated. Night has fallen, stars shine brightly overhead. Roasting marshmallows for s'mores.
Perfection.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (kB9dk)
139In his role as St. Nicholas’s companion, Krampus's main duty is to punish or threaten naughty children while the saint rewards good ones.
It used to be that Krampus coming to punish the naughty children was for those parts of Germany where providing a beat-down on your punk-ass nephews was considered a valuable family value.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (rbvCR)
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78 Watch out tomorrow for Japanese aviators transmitting "Tora, Tora, Tora" tomorrow.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 06, 2025 10:23 PM (S/Y4j)
Or an attack on Gaza with callsign “Torah, Torah, Torah!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (c7Ygk)
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It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC
Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (cYBz/)
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83 And most have forgotten it's supposed to be celebrated from Christmas to Epiphany,
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:25 PM (ZjL9c)
That's where we get the 12 Days of Christmas.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:42 PM (KDYdw)
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Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (rdVOm)
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JQ, looking like next Saturday for the Club ONT Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:43 PM (LVaYG)
144
RC Cola wasn't that bad. I say "wasn't" because I've literally not had one in the last 30 years.
Perhaps if RC had hit the "Diet RC Cola" with a big ad-spend back in the day, they'd be in a different place.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:43 PM (Cjcf6)
145Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025
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Because, like a certain other public figure, He has it locked away?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:43 PM (wzUl9)
146
Here's a tiny peek at the back area, look past the end of bar. There's a room around the corner, where the wobbly table resides:
tinyurl.com/5n97kfzw
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (rdVOm)
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It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC
Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate? It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC
Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate?
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Liberals say we can do that for air travel, but not for voting purposes.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (Cjcf6)
148
Any of you guys ever drink Moxie? We used to say it was made from roots and dirt.
Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (dIske)
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I suppose that it is the vulgar explanation, but Puritans were committed to the Regulative Principle of Worship and Roman Catholic Tradition, tied to a liturgical calendar and Papal authority was outside explicit commands in Scripture to be part of Worship.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (a4flb)
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They were so obnoxious that literally no one in Europe could put up with them.
150
Why can't all States be like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon...hell, Red States in general!
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr)
It's the people. It's always the people who screw it up for everyone else.
Also, great hash, though I can't come up with any fun meanings at the moment.
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (ZjL9c)
151
Everybody is late. I have a great excuse though. I was taking photographs of salmon dressed up in women's clothes. I tell you it was like shooting fish in apparel.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (CDX35)
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JQ, the Club ONT Christmas decorations are totally fabulous!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (6p0Jv)
153After the first Gulf War, fizzy beverages were difficult to find as supply chains were not re-established quickly,
While running around doing things in Kabul during the fun years, I mentioned to my 'terp that I would like a can of Monster and for $20US he returned with a case of it the next day.
You can't even get it in the US for anywhere near that price.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (a4flb)
Posted by: E knievel at December 06, 2025 10:46 PM (gbOdA)
155
There is the Finnish movie, Rare Exports, which is about the Krampus legend.
"In the depths of the Korvatunturi mountains, 486 meters deep, lies the closest ever guarded secret of Christmas. The time has come to dig it up. This Christmas everyone will believe in Santa Claus."
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 10:46 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 06, 2025 10:46 PM (gbOdA)
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Liberals say we can do that for air travel, but not for voting purposes.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (Cjcf6)
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Liberals think its perfectly fine to restrict your rights to do anything at all without a shot record, but voter ID is discriminatory.
158
Why doesn't someone simply check His birth certificate?
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Liberals say we can do that for air travel, but not for voting purposes.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 10:44 PM (Cjcf6)
Jesus had it easy
All his words were in RED.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 06, 2025 10:47 PM (gbOdA)
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I made the Martha Stewart egg nog recipe one year. A fifth of bourbon was in it. I forgetdon't care about the other ingredients.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (6p0Jv)
FIFY.
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:47 PM (ZjL9c)
160They were so obnoxious that literally no one in Europe could put up with them.
Rome found pretty much anyone who didn't prostrate themselves before the Pope as worthy of torture and death.
I guess that is that culture's idea of "obnoxious". Now the Pope is in love with the death cult Islam.
Maybe if the Puritans sawed off a few heads and killed scores of people in crowds, they wouldn't have been run off.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (a4flb)
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138 Campfire in the back yard, which is on 6 acres and isolated. Night has fallen, stars shine brightly overhead. Roasting marshmallows for s'mores.
Perfection.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM
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Excellent! Enjoy!
162
Any of you guys ever drink Moxie? We used to say it was made from roots and dirt.
Posted by: Orson
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It is a root beer beloved by Maine-iacs? No. I have not partook. But I've liked the Maine-iacs I've known.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (6p0Jv)
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105 Rained last week, time to cut the grass again.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
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You live at the equator? Negative 12 here tonight.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (LVaYG)
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If you add the heat from a campfire it becomes magic.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I usually dig your posts, but no thanks to the graham crackers and marshmallows, sir. To each their own.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:28 PM (6p0Jv)
My campfire smore recipe includes a schmear of peanut butter. Keeps the Hershey bar in place. To that you add one perfectly toasted marshmallow. Press the top graham cracker on to the assembled ingredients and chase it down with a couple fingers of Jack Daniels..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 10:49 PM (nbLIj)
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Eating mushmelon is like having a mouth full of phlegm.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:49 PM (uQesX)
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117 It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
Posted by: Herod Died 4 BC at December 06, 2025 10:35 PM (oftw2)
Not sure of the day, but the year seems about right. The monk who determined year zero was off by a few, but he was close, for the time period.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 10:49 PM (6Bc88)
167
Babylon Bee has remake of Blackhawk Down filmed in Minneapolis.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 06, 2025 10:50 PM (gbOdA)
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I like the non-alcoholic eggnogs you can get in the cartons at Aldi and Walmart. They should be available at other times.
(It would, I know, if I made it myself)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:50 PM (wzUl9)
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JQ, looking like next Saturday for the Club ONT Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog
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Awesome!!!
I've been decorating the beer garden out back, but only have this "before" pic:
https://tinyurl.com/dexehamt
No worries, I've added colored lights too. Need to keep those big white lights, so our guests can still see where they're going, LOL
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:50 PM (rdVOm)
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What are these things called, and where can you buy one?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9)
Booster packs, or something like that. Commonly look like a yellow lunchbox with a pair of booster cable clamps on short leads attached to the ends. Amazon, Harbor Freight, Walmart, and any auto supply store, and big-box stores. They are everywhere.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:51 PM (npFr7)
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>> The monk who determined year zero was off by a few, but he was close, for the time period.
And he probably adjusted it so that leap years were exact multiples of 4, without a vexing offset.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 10:51 PM (w6EFb)
172
Rome found pretty much anyone who didn't prostrate themselves before the Pope as worthy of torture and death.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (a4flb)
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They were kicked to the curb by Protestants. Rome had nothing to do with it. The English kicked them out, so they went to the Dutch, who were Calvinists but got tired of their shit and sent them back. The English strongly encouraged them to get on a slow boat to nowhere, which is how they ended up here.
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Could we just not fight over Puritans again and make generalizatios because they chose not to celebrate Christmas ? Jonathan Edward's who was the most prolific religious writer in America and a Puritan and is only known for writing "Sinners In The Hand of An Angry God" because that all the @&# public school used to teach.
had a great appreciation for the love of God and nature and what he wrote about his wife is beautiful
I am for tonight . I hate religious arguments here
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:52 PM (lQ+/f)
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Campfire in the back yard, which is on 6 acres and isolated. Night has fallen, stars shine brightly overhead. Roasting marshmallows for s'mores.
Perfection.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient
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Sounds like heaven on a clear night!
I need to build a firepit area in my yard...
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:52 PM (rdVOm)
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I was on a (heh) roll, trying them all . . . until I hit Clove. That ended my experiments in candy for a while. I don't recall now what it tasted like, but I know my ten-year-old taste buds Did Not Like It.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (wzUl9)
So, how do you feel about clove cigarettes?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:52 PM (uQesX)
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50 I made the Martha Stewart egg nog recipe one year. A fifth of bourbon was in it. I forget the other ingredients.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (6p0Jv)
I made Alton Brown's eggnog - a lot of alcohol - delicious!
Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (bOJ2I)
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151 Everybody is late. I have a great excuse though. I was taking photographs of salmon dressed up in women's clothes. I tell you it was like shooting fish in apparel.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (CDX35)
Very nice.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (KDYdw)
178
Farking windy out there, and not letting up. People in Palmer and Wasilla are posting things like, "If your shed is missing, I think it is in my back yard."
Wings blown off light planes, trees down across roads, roofs blown off several places in Wasilla, including Settler's Bay Lodge, which is my go-to fancy dinner place, about 10 miles up the road. Closed until further notice.
Walmart lost some roof too. I don't go there, so no loss.
Ruby paced all night, miserable since it sounds like Armageddon out there when it is over 20 mph. She DOES NOT LIKE. I didn't really notice, but then, I sleep through earthquakes.
So far we are intact and have power, but I have a fire in the wood stove just in case.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (6Bc88)
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The Evan Williams Egg Nog i like.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
Do those have the booze already in them.
I saw an old lady driving one of the grocery store scooters tap into one right out of the cooler... Glug glug glug ..
... and scooter on down the aisle.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 10:53 PM (/lPRQ)
180
Before they overplayed the crap out of it and all the Super Band bullshit of the 70s started this was a fun song. And Lyndsey Buckingham could play.
I have no idea why Mick Fleetwood was wearing his laundry on his head.
https://tinyurl.com/3yn4ze4c
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (viF8m)
181
It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
182
Birth certificate? The courthouse burned down.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (YlWIZ)
183
Saint Nick was a Catholic bishop. There ain't no Mrs. Claus.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (W7XSX)
184
My campfire smore recipe includes a schmear of peanut butter. Keeps the Hershey bar in place. To that you add one perfectly toasted marshmallow. Press the top graham cracker on to the assembled ingredients and chase it down with a couple fingers of Jack Daniels..
Posted by: Joe Kidd
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Jack Daniel's is the only thing that would make s'mores tasty.
I've never made them. Would rather skip the preliminaries. Graham Crackers and marshmallows take up pack weight.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (6p0Jv)
185
Surprised no Morons mentioned St. Nicholas was also famous for socking Arius right in the kisser at the Council of Nicea.
Santa Claus kicking some heretic ass.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:29 PM (ZOv7s)
Thanks for the reminder!
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (ZjL9c)
186
RC cost the same as the other brand names where I lived.
I'm five states over now and they still cost the same as the other colas.
Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (5Je/N)
187 All the theories about the birthdate of Jesus are quite interesting. Also just what the Star of Bethlehem could've been. There are theories there. There was a striking, very close conjunction of Jupiter and Venus near Regulus in June of 2BC. That led to one theory of Jesus birth as in spring of 2BC. But that would have been in the western sky at sunset, not in the east.
There are some others and if interested, it's fascinating. But none of them can account for all the properties ascribed to the Star.
Herod's death is widely considered to be 4BC, but that is disputed, could've been as late as 1BC.
Anyway, the consensus is 6 - 4BC.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (w6EFb)
188
Oh yes. One more thing: Jonathan Edwards on his future wife:
https://tinyurl.com/53hb7uhs
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (lQ+/f)
189
It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (VCgbV)
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You're not supposed to add them until Epiphany. Set them on the other side of the room and have them creep towards the Nativity.
190Booster packs, or something like that. Commonly look like a yellow lunchbox with a pair of booster cable clamps on short leads attached to the ends. Amazon, Harbor Freight, Walmart, and any auto supply store, and big-box stores. They are everywhere.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025
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You charge them at home via USB, I guess? Is there any risk of them starting a fire in your car when not in use?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9)
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Here's what I call the "lunch counter" area of the Club. Just white lights there:
https://tinyurl.com/2rmbd9xf
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (rdVOm)
192
Tomorrow is the day when travon sakamoto wants to bomb pearl bailey.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (CDX35)
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Everybody is late. I have a great excuse though. I was taking photographs of salmon dressed up in women's clothes. I tell you it was like shooting fish in apparel.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (CDX35)
Why were you wearing women's clothes?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (uQesX)
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Well, the chili is good enough that I will have another bowl. Then put the leftovers in the fridge. Or put it outside for ten minutes to chill in the sub-zero air. Less work for the fridge to do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (npFr7)
195It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7BC.
That is a stretch. Herod's death plus a few years. It was Josephus who noted that Herod died shortly after a lunar eclipse before Passover. So those who like Josephus' reckoning in March/April BCE.
It is my expert opinion that anyone using BCE is a liar and can't be trusted with any theological or biblical historical questions because their motives are to foster distrust of Scripture rather than to pursue Truth.
But since no one's salvation is contingent on the exact date, I really don't care what people want to believe.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (a4flb)
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By the time the 3 wise men showed up, Joseph, Mary, and Jesus were in a house.
Look it up.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:57 PM (W7XSX)
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181 It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 10:54 PM (VCgbV)
Next you’ll tell me that there wasn’t any snow on the ground. Killjoy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 10:57 PM (c7Ygk)
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Tomorrow is the day when travon sakamoto wants to bomb pearl bailey.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (CDX35)
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Lol.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (6p0Jv)
199I was on a (heh) roll, trying them all . . . until I hit Clove. That ended my experiments in candy for a while. I don't recall now what it tasted like, but I know my ten-year-old taste buds Did Not Like It.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025
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So, how do you feel about clove cigarettes?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025
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I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (wzUl9)
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99 Marshmallows toasted on a stick over an open fire are awesome. Bonus points if you get them nice and brown, without setting them on fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 10:26 PM (npFr7)
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When we make s'mores, I'd just eat graham crackers and chocolate. Cooking marshmallows added nothing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:30 PM (ZOv7s)
I want to make Christmas s'mores with Gingerbread Peeps. Don't you think that would be cool?
Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 10:59 PM (bOJ2I)
201
LOL, you think the Blessed Virgin Mary didn't remember her Son's birthdate?
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:59 PM (W7XSX)
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Oh yes. One more thing: Jonathan Edwards on his future wife:
https://tinyurl.com/53hb7uhs
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (lQ+/f)
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Streaming series pitch: Outlander but instead of going to Scotland, she goes to New England and is romanced by Jonathan Edwards-type dude. Use actual letters and quotes to make the Christians swoon. Gold, Jerry, pure gold!
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I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (Wmg4n)
204By the time the 3 wise men showed up, Joseph, Mary, and Jesus were in a house.
Look it up.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025
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No shortage of affordable houses? I guess Blackrock wasn't buying up everything in sight yet.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9)
205
Rome found pretty much anyone who didn't prostrate themselves before the Pope as worthy of torture and death.
I guess that is that culture's idea of "obnoxious". Now the Pope is in love with the death cult Islam.
Maybe if the Puritans sawed off a few heads and killed scores of people in crowds, they wouldn't have been run off.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:48 PM (a4flb)
Rome had nothing whatsoever to do with the Puritans. England had been Protestant for years before they showed up.
The Puritans were buzz-kills. No dancing, no booze, no colors, no music, no nothing.
Catholics, on the other hand, brew beer, have plenty of music and art, believe that God is the author of beauty and deserves the best, and party at the drop of a hat.
The Popes come and go, and some of them are quite worthy of a trip to hell. They do stupid stuff, but none of that is particularly Catholic. The only thing the Pope can do infallibly is speak ex-Cathedra, which means he speaks of doctrine and is guided by God to speak the truth AT THAT MOMENT. That hasn't happened since 1950. Otherwise, he is just as much an idiot as any other person.
YMMV.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (6Bc88)
206 It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Wasn't the practical aspect of the gift of gold part of the plan to underwrite the family's escape to Egypt because of Herod's desire to kill all the male infants in that area?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (a4flb)
I want to make Christmas s'mores with Gingerbread Peeps. Don't you think that would be cool?
Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025
The sugar just burns. We tried it with snowmen.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:01 PM (Wmg4n)
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I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper
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You missed some Moon Pie blasphemy in the comments.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:02 PM (LVaYG)
209"Prevents deposits" - so it could work on arterial plaque?
"Removes water" - and it's a diuretic?!
Sounds like a Moron self-help liquid!
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:27 PM (ZjL9c)
Try looking into Nattokinase instead
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:02 PM (rbvCR)
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I want to make Christmas s'mores with Gingerbread Peeps. Don't you think that would be cool?
Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 10:59 PM (bOJ2I)
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Our Christmas tradition is bourbon balls. We use Maker's Mark.
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You charge them at home via USB, I guess? Is there any risk of them starting a fire in your car when not in use?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9)
I think mostly they have their own on-board charger. Many probably have a USB port so you can charge cellphone. Some may have an inverter built in, so you can get 120 volts AC out of them (for a while). Jacks of all trades; depends on how fancy you want. I'm a car guy, and I don't own one. Have several sets of good (heavy copper) jumper cables. And usually one or more spare batteries to jump with.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:03 PM (npFr7)
212
I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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Good Times Janet Jackson, Diff-rent Strokes Janet Jackson or Nasty Janet Jackson? Asking for lurkers, I'm guessing
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:03 PM (6p0Jv)
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Next you’ll tell me that there wasn’t any snow on the ground. Killjoy.
Posted by: Tom Servo
And that drummer-boy nonsense!! I call bs!!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 11:03 PM (cYBz/)
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I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (wzUl9)
Did she always Ham it up?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 11:04 PM (uQesX)
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203 I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (Wmg4n)
Do we need to get HR involved?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:04 PM (KDYdw)
Three words I never thought I would say in a sentence.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:04 PM (viF8m)
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183 Saint Nick was a Catholic bishop. There ain't no Mrs. Claus.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 10:55 PM (W7XSX)
I had a couple of homeschool kids in my RE classes for First Communion prep. At Christmas, one of the little dudes pointed at a yard decoration and said, full of indignation, "Who IS that WOMAN!!"
Hilarious.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (6Bc88)
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204 No shortage of affordable houses? I guess Blackrock wasn't buying up everything in sight yet.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9)
Joseph was a carpenter, he probably built his own.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (KDYdw)
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I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper
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Disco is a *slave driver!* Didja see the mess of tangled lights he threw on the bar for me, the other night? UGH! Good thing I'd already bought some new ones out of Petty Cash and put them up already...
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (rdVOm)
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I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper
For you folks in SEC land, is the Championship game like a double time day?
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (pkeXY)
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A.H. Lloyd - your comment reminded me that my mother used to make bourbon balls every Christmas, but she hasn't done so in ages (and couldn't do so now, anyway). I should dig through her kitchen and find the recipe.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (GALGA)
223
Man, this snifter of brandy is lasting forever. I think I poured out 90 minutes ago. Still a little left, but then to bed.
224
They were so obnoxious that literally no one in Europe could put up with them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 10:45 PM (ZOv7s)
Politically they were associated with Oliver Cromwell, and they despised the Church of England for cultural as well as doctrinal reasons. So when the Monarchy was restored and the CofE was given back its primacy in Great Britain, they fell very out of favor.
Their problem with the rest of Europe was that they had taken a very anti-monarchial position, and no monarchy (all of Europe except the Dutch at the time) was going to let them in.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:06 PM (c7Ygk)
225 I dated a hot girl in the Eighties (she looked like the young Janet Jackson) who smoked 'em now and then. Does that count?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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Good Times Janet Jackson, Diff-rent Strokes Janet Jackson or Nasty Janet Jackson? Asking for lurkers, I'm guessing
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025
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Circa 1987, so whichever one that was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:06 PM (wzUl9)
226
JQ, is that Elf on the Shelf I sent working? Nothing helps the Morons much. I hoped it would help your efforts.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (6p0Jv)
227 For you folks in SEC land, is the Championship game like a double time day?
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:05
Triple and a 1/2 - holiday pay. Also, GO DAWGS!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (Wmg4n)
228
198 Tomorrow is the day when travon sakamoto wants to bomb pearl bailey.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (CDX35)
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Lol.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 10:58 PM (6p0Jv)
My sister's kids were born on December 7 and September 11. We call them the disaster kids.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (6Bc88)
229
Balthasar was in Ben Hur.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (pkeXY)
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Played by the same actor who was St. Peter in "Quo Vadis."
230
There are some interesting devices out there, the size of a pack of smokes and able to jump start a Diesel. Yeah, I’d be leery too, though no horror stories of fires.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (xtYJY)
231
Joseph was a carpenter, he probably built his own.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (KDYdw)
I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (npFr7)
232
16 -- Fenelon -- It's age, the gift that keeps on giving. My late mother-in-law spent the last twenty-some years of her life complaining that nothing tasted the way it used to taste, and I would snicker to myself. Well, as they say, Karma is a bitch. Nothing tastes right to me any more. On the positive side, I've lost weight and a couple of sizes in the past few years.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 06, 2025 11:08 PM (DK5Sh)
233
I keep a charged up battery jump device in the car at all times. Also has a useful light built in.
Posted by: Semper Paratus
How often do you have to charge it up?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Wire it in to the cars electrical system to keep it charged. Then take it the next step so if your battery died it will already be wired in and will sense automatically to give you a jump.
It will be just carrying a spare battery in case you need a jump but less work...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 11:08 PM (/lPRQ)
234
Elf on the Shelf has been stuffed back in its box for ClubONT. The guys were complaining about it being over the urinal...
What happens here, *stays* here!
It'll be back in place, on top of the cash register, in the morning.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:09 PM (rdVOm)
235 No shortage of affordable houses? I guess Blackrock wasn't buying up everything in sight yet.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025
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Joseph was a carpenter, he probably built his own.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025
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Ah. Buy some land and you're good to start. No need to deal with RealtorNazareth dot com.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:09 PM (wzUl9)
236
221 Balthasar was in Ben Hur.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (pkeXY)
Catholic tradition means we mark the lintel over the front door with chalk with B+M+C and the year. Balthasar, Melchoir, and Caspar, as if they visit for Epiphany and bless the house. It's a cute tradition but a nice reminder.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:09 PM (6Bc88)
237
A.H. Lloyd - your comment reminded me that my mother used to make bourbon balls every Christmas, but she hasn't done so in ages (and couldn't do so now, anyway). I should dig through her kitchen and find the recipe.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:05 PM (GALGA)
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They are wonderful, and make great gifts. Pack up a half-dozen and people will thank you...a couple of days after they get them.
238
JQ,
If the Club ONT Christmas party is next week, I'll bring some trays of Christmas cookies. Let me know if you have any favorites I should include...
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:10 PM (rdVOm)
240 Wasn't the practical aspect of the gift of gold part of the plan to underwrite the family's escape to Egypt because of Herod's desire to kill all the male infants in that area?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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Actually it was all the male children 2 and under.
241I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025
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Cedars from Lebanon, perhaps? In that case, Jesus grew up in a really great-smelling house!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:10 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: zombie Louis XVI at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (npFr7)
244
...Let me know if you have any favorites I should include...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
Oh, how thoughtful! ALL cookies are good cookies, thank you!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (rdVOm)
245
"People are pretending to work, and many are in the early stages of convincing themselves they will "begin eating healthy tomorrow" - which means Monday, or later. The Club does not endorse such ideas of slimming and trimming over the holiday season."
Just finished a three day fast. Never done it before. Feel great.
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (X+xvk)
246 England had been Protestant for years before they showed up.
The Puritans were buzz-kills. No dancing, no booze, no colors, no music, no nothing.
Anglicans have a "via media" identity, somewhere between Rome and Reformed. They liked the episcopal structure, the liturgy and sacraments but didn't consider Papal Authority and Holy Tradition to be equal to Scripture. (there was also the Justification by Faith thing too)
Anglicans, like Rome, liked to torture and persecute non conformists (because that is what Christ would do). England was really getting to suck in general and I think that with news of the New World a Covenant Vision materialized and they felt called to create a "city upon a hill".
That vision turned into the United States, so I believe it was of Divine intervention that the Puritans were driven out, leaving the demonic spirits behind in Europe long enough to establish a foothold and foundation for a God fearing society - something impossible to do in Europe then, now and in the future.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (a4flb)
247
Also, I need to find a source for good pfeffernusse cookies. I want them to be coated in powdered sugar, not icing, and not too heavy on the licorice flavor. Trader Joe's used to carry a decent version, but they quit a couple years ago (bastards!).
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (GALGA)
248
You charge them at home via USB, I guess? Is there any risk of them starting a fire in your car when not in use?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9)
I think mostly they have their own on-board charger. Many probably have a USB port so you can charge cellphone. Some may have an inverter built in, so you can get 120 volts AC out of them (for a while). Jacks of all trades; depends on how fancy you want. I'm a car guy, and I don't own one. Have several sets of good (heavy copper) jumper cables. And usually one or more spare batteries to jump with.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I had the "Cat" version...really handy if you have various battery dependent equipment around the place. Lasted about 6 years before it stopped taking a charge.
(had 12dc,120ac out, usb, light)
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:12 PM (viF8m)
250
I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:07 PM (npFr7)
You are probably correct.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 06, 2025 11:12 PM (KDYdw)
251206 It was pointed out to us that the 3 wise men in a nativity scene are not Biblical since they probably didn't arrive until Jesus was a few years old.
Wasn't the practical aspect of the gift of gold part of the plan to underwrite the family's escape to Egypt because of Herod's desire to kill all the male infants in that area?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
God's provision. Yes.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:12 PM (DqJmd)
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:13 PM (LVaYG)
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219 I am back. Doof made me work after the SEC Championship and won’t even pay me overtime!
Posted by: Piper
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Disco is a *slave driver!* Didja see the mess of tangled lights he threw on the bar for me, the other night? UGH! Good thing I'd already bought some new ones out of Petty Cash and put them up already...
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:0
Did he complain they were white and not colored lights?
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:14 PM (Wmg4n)
256
Anglicans, like Rome, liked to torture and persecute non conformists (because that is what Christ would do).
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (a4flb)
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Catholicism was banned in Protestant countries. It went both ways.
257
@166.-It can be shown from the Bible that Christ was born on October 1, 7 BC.
Christ is a Libra?
Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 11:14 PM (5Je/N)
258
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No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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They believed that married couple should have sex often.
That it was righteous and healthy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (04Glf)
259 That historic fact I mentioned yesterday is 100% true.
The Colonists started the tradition of candles in the windows so's the neighbors didn't think they were Papists!
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (OsagP)
260I wonder how readily available lumber was in Bethlehem in those days? I'd have figured adobe to be the most common building material?
Given that the area was two thousand years closer to The Flood and subsequent Ice Age that covered Europe and definitely providing a very different climate in Palestine, there is also evidence that the Dead Sea was once connected to the Mediterranean Sea which would have further altered the climate and make far more sense to the Hebrews at the time of the Exodus to enter in to a land "flowing with milk and honey".
It isn't the desert wilderness that we see today.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (a4flb)
261
When I was overseas with XH, the base radio station hosted a fundraiser. Pledge & they would play your song.
Somebody (LOL, wasn't me but I know who did it) pledged $100-- a small fortune in 1983-- for them to play Flying Lizards' Money for AN HOUR.
Yes, they did it. LMAO.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (rdVOm)
262
S'pose it's time I headed off to bed. Tomorrow I plan to work out, have breakfast, and do some writing. It's just noodling around with ideas at this point . . .but it's amazing how things can come cranking out when you sit down and type away whatever comes to mind.
Book Thread too! Woo-hoo!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (wzUl9)
263
Guess I'm the only one watching UVA beat themselves in the ACC Championship. On the bright side, if Duke holds on, James Madison U will be in the BCS playoffs!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (DqJmd)
264 Well, I think 100% true. My details might be a bit off on account I caught some senility from being around You People.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (OsagP)
265
Good thing I'd already bought some new ones out of Petty Cash and put them up already...
Posted by: JQ
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Did you turn in the receipt? That damned accounting department, they've been on my ass again.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (LVaYG)
266
That vision turned into the United States, so I believe it was of Divine intervention that the Puritans were driven out, leaving the demonic spirits behind in Europe long enough to establish a foothold and foundation for a God fearing society - something impossible to do in Europe then, now and in the future.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:11 PM (a4flb)
So, your opinion is that both Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism is of "demonic spirits?" And yet, from whence came the Bible, the Trinity, and the rest of the trappings of Protestantism? Is it all demonic? Just asking, since you seem to think this is the case.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (04Glf)
268Man, this snifter of brandy is lasting forever. I think I poured out 90 minutes ago. Still a little left, but then to bed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:06 PM (ZOv7s)
You are not supposed to fill it to the brim.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (rbvCR)
269
Well, my lurking time has come to an end.
Good night pals.
Many prayers to TiFW🙏
"I’ll sleep when I’m rich… or right now, because I’m tired.”
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (3pxDZ)
270 For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP)
271
They believed that married couple should have sex often.
That it was righteous and healthy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:15 PM (04Glf)
That is the Catholic position as well.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (6Bc88)
272
Piper will get paid at time and a half her normal rate.
Multicolor lights only in the Club!
Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (QMAsf)
273 And I don't believe for a minute it was always "missionary."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (OsagP)
I've seen enough to know this kid has the brains and talent to be a good NFL QB. And also the Jets will never draft him.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (viF8m)
275258 ---
No, it was because they were pricks. Joyless scolds. Even the Dutch couldn't put up with their shit.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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They believed that married couple should have sex often.
That it was righteous and healthy.
Posted by: Braenyard
And when they got to the New World, they had many many children. But sure, the Pilgrims hated sex. Whatever.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (DqJmd)
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:18 PM (GALGA)
277
Did you turn in the receipt? That damned accounting department, they've been on my ass again.
Posted by: scampydog
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I think that goes back to the dragon you requested....
278
You are not supposed to fill it to the brim.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (rbvCR)
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If I did that, I would be incapable of typing. Or conscious.
279
Multicolor lights only in the Club!
Posted by: Doof
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*Adds to agenda item to the Monday D's meeting*
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (LVaYG)
280
Some are much better at rebuke than at acceptance.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (04Glf)
281
Did he complain they were white and not colored lights?
Posted by: Piper
No, because I put colored lights over the Main Bar and the fireplace area.
There are no pictures available of those areas, because photos just can't capture the ambience ya know?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:19 PM (rdVOm)
282The Colonists started the tradition of candles in the windows so's the neighbors didn't think they were Papists!
And here I thought it was a concept borrowed from France to act as street lighting.
There is an interesting history of street lighting and candles in the windows were local ordinances due to the darkness and crime that took place without lighting. (circa 1667 Paris and London sometime late 1600s)
The wealthy didn't like the hassle of messing with candles through the night and such helped advance the technology of gas lighting.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (a4flb)
283
The climate was probably better in the Roman Optimum in Judaea than it became during the later Roman Empire when everything started to suck (it sucked hardest for the Jews given they, uh, lost some wars).
The issue with vegetation around the eastern Med is that a lot of it was chopped down. They didn't have oil or natural gas electricity then. No vegetation then led to erosion, making difficult for new growth.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE)
284 Not to mention some of those so-called Puritans were marrying teenagers.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (OsagP)
285
The sugar just burns. We tried it with snowmen.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:01 PM (Wmg4n)
^^Oh no! The dream dies...
Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (bOJ2I)
286
For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP)
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I forget I'm dealing with Morons, who think the *only* joy is fornication.
287
For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP)
They did their courting in bed. Called it bundling.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (uQesX)
288 When I was overseas with XH, the base radio station hosted a fundraiser. Pledge & they would play your song.
Somebody (LOL, wasn't me but I know who did it) pledged $100-- a small fortune in 1983-- for them to play Flying Lizards' Money for AN HOUR.
Yes, they did it. LMAO.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:16 PM (rdVOm)
Epic! I'd buy that person a beverage or 3.
Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (QMAsf)
289
, unless you kept your car in a high state of tune a subzero or below zero engine start was an iffy proposition.
In the late 80s early 90s, the Ford fuel injection was scary. If a GM wouldn't catch and it flooded, if you held the pedal to the floor it would clear. Not with the Fords. You had one shot and then the only way to fix it was plug replacement. Whenever it got really cold the dealer lot would fill up with cars and we had gravy work all day
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 11:14 PM (5Je/N)
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The people who like me seem to be Libras. I don't believe in that astrological crap. And if I'm socially awkward, ok. But I pray Jesus thinks I'm loveable .
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (6p0Jv)
291
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Our Christmas tradition is bourbon balls. We use Maker's Mark.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 11:02 PM (ZOv7s)
Hmmm might have to consider.
Posted by: Iris at December 06, 2025 11:21 PM (bOJ2I)
292
I think that goes back to the dragon you requested....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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Heh. The dragon, it resides on the dresser. Just biding its time.
Posted by: scampydog at December 06, 2025 11:22 PM (LVaYG)
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279 Multicolor lights only in the Club!
Posted by: Doof
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My decor is safe.
*wipes brow*
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (6p0Jv)
297
Posted by: GWB at December 06, 2025 10:40 PM (ZjL9c)
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I have the Dewalt one and like it. I charge it 1x/month and have used every feature on it except the alternator-check.
Posted by: 496 at December 06, 2025 11:24 PM (7MeQV)
298
Epic! I'd buy that person a beverage or 3.
Posted by: Doof
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His first name is Alex, active duty sailor at the time. He moonlighted as a punk-rock DJ at the base clubs. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:24 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (DqJmd)
306
"Without a stabilizer, petrol can become unreliable in 30-60 days."
Just today I started my log splitter without adding gas, no stabilizer, after about a year, started right up. But it did get non-ethanol fuel.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (vbXSk)
307
Wasn't raised in the church. My first time relating to the Bible and reality was a Video program done on the Prophets by Fr. Mitch Pachwa. Not to long ago, driving and looking for an interesting radio station I came across a Catholic channel. Thought great, maybe I'll learn something, this could be interesting.
What a disappointment. All the Catholics did, the whole program, was talk about how and why the Protestants were wrong and they were right. What a put off it is to hear.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (04Glf)
308
The issue with vegetation around the eastern Med is that a lot of it was chopped down. They didn't have oil or natural gas electricity then. No vegetation then led to erosion, making difficult for new growth.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE)
I watched a fascinating program a few years back about Alexander’s incursion deep into Asia, and it made the surprising claim was that it was made easier because Alexander’s army could ride on ships most of the way. They backed the theory up with evidence that the Caspian Sea was at least a third larger than we've ever seen in modern times, and that many rivers that have been dry for a millennia were deep flowing rivers in Alexander’s time, not to mention dozens of lakes that are now dry.
They made a very good case that all of Central Asia was far, far wetter than we see today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:27 PM (c7Ygk)
309So, your opinion is that both Roman Catholicism and Anglicanism is of "demonic spirits?" And yet, from whence came the Bible, the Trinity, and the rest of the trappings of Protestantism? Is it all demonic? Just asking, since you seem to think this is the case
European religions are similar in nature to Islam and other socio-culture-religions, where participation in the religion is mandatory otherwise a person is ostracized and is harmed in various ways.
So there is far more likely a chance of a person in the cultural religion to not be regenerated and thus live as carnal creatures. This is why a Mafioso can gun down some competitor in the street on the way to Mass and there not be a conflict.
Protestant faiths subscribe to the Doctrines of Grace, all of the Elect is regenerated and takes on a spirit made alive. This is not true in State Religions. Though you can have truly saved people like Thomas Aquinas while you have Popes that are burning in Hell.
So yes, demons love infiltrating State Religions and boy howdy is there a lot of evidence to the depraved wicked ness that was State Religion sanctioned.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (a4flb)
310
My BFF is from Indiana I'll go with Hoosiers, except I think she went to Purdue
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (6p0Jv)
311
Ethanol is hydrophilic, it keeps water from collecting in you gas tank.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (04Glf)
312 My BFF is from Indiana I'll go with Hoosiers, except I think she went to Purdue
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (6p0Jv)
Ball State
Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:29 PM (QMAsf)
313
Ethanol is hydrophilic, that's why you want the water for your ice to be pure.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:30 PM (04Glf)
There's....ah...um...you know, other stuff. Plenty of stuff.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (OsagP)
Like model trains?
Posted by: guy with a model train stuck in his rectum at December 06, 2025 11:31 PM (MIvVV)
Yes it is. Kirk could have just run circles around him until he weakened.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 11:31 PM (Cjcf6)
318They made a very good case that all of Central Asia was far, far wetter than we see today.
Posted by: Tom Servo
I believe it for the Aral Sea. Central Asia got very, very good at retaining water for the Silk Road cities. Especially during the Islamic era.
All that water going to feed crops wasn't flowing into the big lakes. The Aral, the Urmia, the Van are all drying out now. Probably then too.
Caspian on the other hand I dunno. There weren't major cities around that one.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (gKWVE)
Dang it, some areas need a little more illumination. Safety reasons. **Liability** reasons!
So I put white lights AS WELL AS colored ones.
We're inclusive here at The Club. *sniff*
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (rdVOm)
Put the white lights in the ladies room then. Keep that boring stuff where I don't have to see it!
Posted by: Doof
Kids! We all like our Club ONT to be George Bailys Martinis, let's not bicker and turn it into Nicks version....
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (TfUTr)
320
Ethanol is hydrophilic, it keeps water from collecting in you gas tank.
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Hydrophilic refers to its good solubility in water (due to polar nature), while hygroscopic describes its tendency to attract and hold water vapor from the atmosphere, essentially "self-contaminating" by becoming diluted over time if exposed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (XeU6L)
321
Hate to say it, but I miss MisHum's Zappa videos. Not a fan, but I guess I should seek them out on my own.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 06, 2025 11:34 PM (CHHv1)
322 Like model trains?
Posted by: guy with a model train stuck in his rectum
Yeah, I guess.
And ham radios.
Mowing the lawn.
Changing the oil in the car.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:34 PM (OsagP)
323
There's....ah...um...you know, other stuff. Plenty of stuff.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:23 PM (OsagP)
Like model trains?
Posted by: guy with a model train stuck in his rectum
HO, HO, HO.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (TfUTr)
324
Caspian was once a monster sea, almost an ocean, during the early Holocene. "Great Khvalynian", they call it.
But not during Alexander's time.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (gKWVE)
325
There's at least 3000 colored lights up, Doof.
I'll unplug the white ones, but they're too mixed up with the colored strings to remove.
Besides, they help me at clean-up time. Can you at least grant that?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)
326
Kids! We all like our Club ONT to be George Bailys Martinis, let's not bicker and turn it into Nicks version....
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM
I had to throw a record I painted at him earlier. He is out of control.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:36 PM (Wmg4n)
327
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:28 PM (a4flb)
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Well said.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 11:36 PM (04Glf)
328
There is nothing better than watching a beaten down long shot finally earning their day. And when their best player first gives heartfelt thanks to God it's all good.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (viF8m)
329
For "joyless scolds," those Puritans sure did fornicate a lot. Like, all the time, a lot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 06, 2025 11:17 PM (OsagP)
They did their courting in bed. Called it bundling.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
Engaged meant joined at the hips.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (/lPRQ)
330
Well, we've reached the point in the thread where people are talking about keestering objects, so I'm going to bow out. See you weirdos on the book thread.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (GALGA)
331
Interesting. They now have jump starter packs powered by ultracapacitors. The ultracapacitors can deliver a powerful jolt of current for a few seconds, even in sub-zero temperatures. They also have a small on-board lithium battery to charge the ultracapacitors. Trickle current into the ultracaps for a few minutes, or few hours, then it can come out in a huge surge to crank a dead engine.
Posted by: zombie Louis XVI at December 06, 2025 11:37 PM (npFr7)
332 There's at least 3000 colored lights up, Doof.
I'll unplug the white ones, but they're too mixed up with the colored strings to remove.
Besides, they help me at clean-up time. Can you at least grant that?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)
Acceptable option. As long as they are far outnumbered by the colorful ones!
Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:38 PM (QMAsf)
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:42 PM (TfUTr)
339 I had to throw a record I painted at him earlier. He is out of control.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:36 PM (Wmg4n)
I probably deserved it
Posted by: Doof at December 06, 2025 11:43 PM (QMAsf)
340What a disappointment. All the Catholics did, the whole program, was talk about how and why the Protestants were wrong and they were right. What a put off it is to hear.
Wait until you introduce Eastern Orthodox doctrines. In the general realm of "Christianity" you have the wild west of Evangelicals on one side, and Eastern Orthodox on the other, with Rome closer to the Orthodox and Reformed between Rome and Evangelicals.
The Soteriology, doctrines of Justification, Sanctification, Eschatology and what it means to be in the Church are wildly different, with Evangelicals with the Prescient Election views (aka Free Will), Rome and EO looking at variations of synergism; Evangelicals see heaven in purely materialistic terms while EO sees afterlife in terms of Theosis.
There will always be discord because the underlying theological templates, the syncretization of cultures and hermeneutics are wildly different.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:44 PM (a4flb)
341
Ethanol is hydrophilic, it keeps water from collecting in you gas tank.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025
Till it evaporates....then all that water in suspension...isn't.
Which is why I don't use wd40.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:45 PM (TfUTr)
342
Janet was okay, but Vanity was THE *Nasty Girl*
https://youtu.be/0aQndRqi3jE
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:45 PM (rdVOm)
343
The Virginia receiver stepped out of bounds before he caught that pass.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 11:46 PM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: Department of Schicklegruber Studies at December 06, 2025 11:48 PM (MIvVV)
350
Just today I started my log splitter without adding gas, no stabilizer, after about a year, started right up. But it did get non-ethanol fuel.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 11:26 PM (vbXSk)
I had to fire up my ancient Coleman generator last night, because power went out. Took the fuel cap off, and there was some nasty-smelling gas at the bottom of the tank. Filled it brim-full with fresh gas, and it started, briefly, on the second pull of the starting rope ( the kind you wrap around the cup, not a recoil). Third pull, no go. Fourth pull, I gave a little shot of go juice in the carb, and it started, and stayed running, and ran well, until the carb screws rattled loose and it began sucking air. Re-tightened them, it started again one one pull, and ran fine for an hour.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 11:48 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:50 PM (pkeXY)
352Janet was okay, but Vanity was THE *Nasty Girl*
https://youtu.be/0aQndRqi3jE
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025
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Wasn't Vanity involved with Prince at one point? I've never been a fan of his music (though he was a good songwriter), but his taste in girlfriends was impeccable.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:50 PM (wzUl9)
353
What in the hell was that?!
Posted by: Some Rat
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Something between disco and motown.. electronic dance? I don't know.. but it sounded good at the time, LOL.
Isn't it a bit early for Christmas tunes? Don't want to get burned-out on them YET.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:51 PM (rdVOm)
354
336 Cream Soda was decadent. Can't remember who made(s) it
Posted by: javems at December 06, 2025 11:42 PM (8I4hW)
IBC Cream Soda is the best!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:52 PM (c7Ygk)
355
Wasn't Vanity involved with Prince at one point? I've never been a fan of his music (though he was a good songwriter), but his taste in girlfriends was impeccable.
Posted by: Wolfus
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Yes, I believe she was. (RIP, Vanity and Prince)
Prince definitely had good taste.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 11:53 PM (rdVOm)
356
>> Caspian was once a monster sea, almost an ocean,
Thanks, very interesting and I'm now going to be reading that geological history of that. Fascinating.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 11:53 PM (w6EFb)
Yes it is. Kirk could have just run circles around him until he weakened.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025
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Maybe. But Kirk had no idea how much stamina a Gorn had, or how much water he needed. The planetoid did not not look temperate and didn't seem to have surface water. He himself could have died of thirst before the Gorn did.
I love stories where the hero uses a trick, esp. a fact of nature or science, to defeat his enemy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 11:54 PM (wzUl9)
359
Isn't it a bit early for Christmas tunes? Don't want to get burned-out on them YET.
Posted by: JQ
Heh, day after Thanksgiving a couple radio station here start playing Christmas music. My radio does not leave those stations till they stop.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 11:54 PM (TfUTr)
360I had to fire up my ancient Coleman generator last night, because power went out. Took the fuel cap off, and there was some nasty-smelling gas at the bottom of the tank.
If it was anyone else I would say that they broke the rule of emergency generators, and that they should be the most reliable engines around and should be run frequently to ensure proper function.
There there is you, which could unearth a contraption buried since the early Roman era, in the dark and cold figure out how it works, quickly fashion makeshift parts to replace the original parts that failed, and get it running continuously.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:55 PM (a4flb)
361
Okay, all that robot dancing made me tired. Off to bed! Nightsie noodles!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 11:58 PM (Wmg4n)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 06, 2025 11:58 PM (w6EFb)
363
Pop Shop was mentioned way above. Seemed like that place had 30 kinds of pop. You could build your own case.
Posted by: mot at December 06, 2025 11:59 PM (fIPNY)
364
On that log splitter I always cut off the gas supply and let it run dry, every time I use it. That seems helpful.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 11:59 PM (vbXSk)
365
The Jethro Tull Christmas album is my favorite. Hubby hates Christmas. He'll at least kind of listen to this one.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:02 AM (6p0Jv)
366
All that water going to feed crops wasn't flowing into the big lakes. The Aral, the Urmia, the Van are all drying out now. Probably then too.
Caspian on the other hand I dunno. There weren't major cities around that one.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 06, 2025 11:33 PM (gKWVE)
One haunting image especially stayed in my mind; a picture of the ruins of what was once large city, now just extensive piles of rubble and brick, on land in the edge of a 200’ high cliff. Nothing green anywhere, just rubble and dust to the horizon in any direction.
Yet there was no cliff when the city was built; it was built on the banks of a large deep lake, where the spice road came through, and traders could water their camels and rest in luxury.
The past, it was a different place.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:03 AM (c7Ygk)
367
On that log splitter I always cut off the gas supply and let it run dry, every time I use it. That seems helpful.
Posted by: illiniwek
I put fuel shut offs on all the yard equipment. Run 'em dry at shut down. It definitely helps.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 07, 2025 12:03 AM (TfUTr)
368
Catholic tradition means we mark the lintel over the front door with chalk with B+M+C and the year. Balthasar, Melchoir, and Caspar, as if they visit for Epiphany and bless the house. It's a cute tradition but a nice reminder.
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We did this as well, but using Latin, Christus mansionem benedicat, which is translated as “Christ, bless this house (mansion)”. And we would write it like: 20 + C+M+B + 25.
This is a nice site that details this custom: https://tinyurl.com/582zmev4
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:04 AM (La8zG)
369 Yet there was no cliff when the city was built; it was built on the banks of a large deep lake, where the spice road came through, and traders could water their camels and rest in luxury.
The past, it was a different place.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Midnight at the Oasis
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:05 AM (pkeXY)
370
If it was anyone else I would say that they broke the rule of emergency generators, and that they should be the most reliable engines around and should be run frequently to ensure proper function.
There there is you, which could unearth a contraption buried since the early Roman era, in the dark and cold figure out how it works, quickly fashion makeshift parts to replace the original parts that failed, and get it running continuously.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:55 PM (a4flb)
You are right, I neglected it. Bad Peon, no donut! But it was stored indoors, in a shop with radiant floor heating. So I had a toasty warm place to work on it, and ample light from an LED hand lantern that kicks out like a hundred-watt light bulb. So I got it going inside, nice and warm, then dragged the running generator two yards out onto the apron after raising the bay door. Once it was running steady, I pulled the pole switch, disconnecting my buildings from the utility line, and kicked in the breaker for the welding outlet that the generator was plugged into. And lights came on.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:05 AM (npFr7)
371
>>>There there is you, which could unearth a contraption buried since the early Roman era, in the dark and cold figure out how it works, quickly fashion makeshift parts to replace the original parts that failed, and get it running continuously.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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Speaking of: Recently someone posted a clip of a Toyota Land Cruiser that was wrecked then washed out to sea, rolling in the surf was cleaned up and started. Then they really started abusing it. Last scene it was placed atop a building to be demolished, blew up the building, retrieved the Toy and ... yes they got it running. End of clip they set it alight.
clip 2
Oxygen bottles (full) in the back of a Ford Explorer? Shot the bottles w/ 50cal tracers setting off the bottles which blew up and went alight along with the Ford. After they put the fire out, yep, it started.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:06 AM (04Glf)
372
I parked & tarped the riding mower and tow-behind sweeper today, while it was sunny and dry outside.
Did the same thing last year, without running it until carb empty.. no fuel cut-off (I need to remedy that).. but started up no problem this Spring.
Non-ethanol gasoline. No 'sta-bil' or other additive. Of course, it's only parked for about 3 months. First mow will usually be ~mid-March.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:10 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:13 AM (viF8m)
376
Movie idea: "Bamboo Love" about Ryan Lizza's surprise (even to him) love-by-proxy affair with such political luminaries as RFK Jr. and Mark Sanford (of Appalachian Trail fame), via Olivia Nuzzi, the ground underneath whom their love was spread like the roots of bamboo grass. It could touch on everything from the nihilistic amorality of secular culture to the same exact thing through a different lens -- such as intimacy, celebrity, politics, and news -- as if that makes it different.
And with a bonus homoerotic subtext to banging the same ho as another dude!
Posted by: SciVo at December 07, 2025 12:14 AM (Sy6m/)
377
Fuel stabilizer is a good idea. I probably did put some in the old Coleman last time I ran it.
I plan to service the generator. Replace carb and manifold mounting screws, and Loctite them in. Maybe rig a brace to the bottom of the intake elbow to give carb added support. Change oil. Take end bell off generator, and try to find why one leg of the split 240 is flaky. I suspect a bad solder joint on one of the panel fuses.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:16 AM (npFr7)
378
What a disappointment. All the Catholics did, the whole program, was talk about how and why the Protestants were wrong and they were right. What a put off it is to hear.
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Sorry to hear this. I think it is always more beneficial to talk about truths than to bash other ideologies.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:16 AM (La8zG)
379
"Did the same thing last year, without running it until carb empty.. no fuel cut-off (I need to remedy that).. but started up no problem this Spring."
I saw "Chickanic" (youtube channel) say it was better to leave a heavy oil mix in the carb for longer term storage. Keeps it oiled or something. idk ... dry has worked over the last 8 years or so for me.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 12:17 AM (vbXSk)
380
I haven't been around much recently. This club is shaping up quite nicely. Love the lights and the ambiance. 😊
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:18 AM (La8zG)
381
JQ, I humbly suggest a song for the Club ONT Christmas Party
https://tinyurl.com/4kbmhfbb
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 07, 2025 12:19 AM (OsagP)
383
380 I haven't been around much recently. This club is shaping up quite nicely. Love the lights and the ambiance. 😊
Posted by: AmericanKestrel
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You should come around more often. And for the season there's been a lot of decorating going on.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:22 AM (04Glf)
384
I will be trying something new over the next few days. My brother butchered a cow and I asked for the fat. I now have 2 five gallon buckets of fat from which I will attempt to rend tallow. Anyone have experience with this? It doesn't look too difficult. If it all goes well and I want an additional challenge, I will attempt to make candles with the tallow as well.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:24 AM (La8zG)
385
Why should Idahoans get special treatment? We have more illegals in Colorado. I don’t drink, so maybe a cash prize or a state tax refund.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at December 07, 2025 12:24 AM (tRYqg)
Ford CEO Jim Farley Says Fuel Economy Standards Were 'Totally Out Of Touch'
Farley said during an appearance on Fox News. "We are forced to sell EVs and other vehicles...we're not going back to gas guzzlers, we have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford. But now customers get a chance to buy what they want, not what we force on them."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:25 AM (pkeXY)
388
You should come around more often. And for the season there's been a lot of decorating going on.
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Thanks Braenyard. How have you been?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:26 AM (La8zG)
389
It's an incendiary round not a tracer.
Here's the shot, oxygen bottle blowing up the Ford.
youtu.be/2tX06z2h3YY?t=793
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:31 AM (04Glf)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:32 AM (rdVOm)
391
With the "winter" dampness here, it might be a good idea if I put 1/4 to 1/2 ethanol gas in my tank along with the E0.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Our small engine repair guy told us to never use ethanol in small engines. I've read boat motor mfrs void warranties if you use ethanol gas.
I don't use it for anything but vehicles.
Posted by: MkY at December 07, 2025 12:34 AM (q6tQZ)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (rdVOm)
393 Heh, day after Thanksgiving a couple radio station here start playing Christmas music. My radio does not leave those stations till they stop.
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I think I've mentioned before that after Thanksgiving I start listening to Handel's Messiah. I came across this song today, featuring a singer from Trinidad. Beautiful voice! And she is pleased with her performance, beautiful smile at the end.
https://tinyurl.com/296dvahb
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (La8zG)
394
>>>we're not going back to gas guzzlers, we have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford. But now customers get a chance to buy what they want, not what we force on them."
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That sounds confused.
Customers can buy what they want as long as it's tiny engines or EVs and hybrids. Farley's the same guy that pushed the Lightening isn't he?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (04Glf)
Is it just me, or was anyone else disappointed to realize the "TopPop" and similar shows are fake? They are not live performances. They are like music videos, adding a new visual on top of the separately recorded and mixed production audio. But they don't present themselves that way. What a gyp!
Posted by: SciVo at December 07, 2025 12:35 AM (Sy6m/)
396
How have you been?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel
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It's been smooth this season.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:36 AM (04Glf)
397
385 Why should Idahoans get special treatment? We have more illegals in Colorado. I don’t drink, so maybe a cash prize or a state tax refund.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at December 07, 2025 12:24 AM (tRYqg)
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TX here. I don't want a f'kin prize. I want the illegals and cartel gone. I am tired of the trash and the crime. It looks like a Mexican trailer park here. No bueno.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:36 AM (6p0Jv)
398
Why should Idahoans get special treatment? We have more illegals in Colorado. I don’t drink, so maybe a cash prize or a state tax refund.
Posted by: Norrin Radd
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It's an Idaho bar what's sponsoring it. That's why.
Tell your local Colorado establishments to Get With The Program!!!
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:36 AM (rdVOm)
399 1. CEO Farley never said a peep before. Craven.
2. Ford is "out of touch" with the stupid trucks they build.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 07, 2025 12:41 AM (+J1QL)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:43 AM (rdVOm)
401
I am heading in for the night, but the seemingly rash decision to move to Idaho has been the best rash decision we have ever made. Even better than the rash decision we made to move to Colorado 30 years ago, when CO was still a great state.
So, I guess the same thing could happen here, but, well...
I trust in the Lord.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy at December 07, 2025 12:43 AM (0aYVJ)
402 Does the World have enough Lithium to support the ever-growing demand?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing History at December 07, 2025 12:45 AM (+J1QL)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 12:50 AM (rdVOm)
406
Killing a Toyota Part 1 | Top Gear | BBC
Sep 28, 2010
Jeremy Clarkson puts Toyota's claim that their Hilux pick-up is virtually indestructible to the ultimate test. Top Gear series 3,
youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:52 AM (04Glf)
407
Does the World have enough Lithium to support the ever-growing demand?
Ha. But will lithium enable logical thinking?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 12:53 AM (La8zG)
408
Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US. I hope they are proven wrong.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 12:54 AM (04Glf)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 12:55 AM (6p0Jv)
410
Ford CEO Jim Farley Says Fuel Economy Standards Were 'Totally Out Of Touch'
Farley said during an appearance on Fox News. "We are forced to sell EVs and other vehicles...we're not going back to gas guzzlers, we have a lot of EVs and a lot of hybrids at Ford. But now customers get a chance to buy what they want, not what we force on them."
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Where was his courage when it counted? He should be fired for admitting he folded when he should have made a stand.
When I was a kid, CEOs were portrayed as macho money lovers. That's actually the type you want in charge of your profit-seeking enterprise. This guy is just one of dozens of top-50 CEOs that weren't concerned enough about their company's profitability.
Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2025 12:57 AM (Cjcf6)
411 Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US.
What about affordability?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:58 AM (pkeXY)
412
If I was in the market for a truck, I would want that Toyota.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:01 AM (La8zG)
413
Happy St. Nicholas Day! The "Feast of Saint Nicholas" is celebrated on December 6 each year (although some celebrate on the December 5 eve). The American Santa Claus, as well as the British Father Christmas, derive from Saint Nicholas.
Done tole ya'll people
Hope all dem kids is happy
Posted by: Miklos is Magyar for Nicholas at December 07, 2025 01:04 AM (N7hqt)
414
Hey Horde, I started reading comments about an hour ago but I got sidetracked. JQ, the club is looking quite festive, you did a great job!!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 07, 2025 01:04 AM (0nHVk)
415
45 Reckon I gotta pay a visit to Old State Saloon. It's not far down the road. And I think I would like the clientele. But. Gotta have my glowie radar set.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, 59 year-old awkward guy
Why can't all States be like Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon...hell, Red States in general!
Posted by: Some Rat at December 06, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr)
They all sound so wonderful - but right now in deep deep blue Southern California it's 55 F outside.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 01:05 AM (QGaXH)
416
Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US. I hope they are proven wrong.
Posted by: Braenyard
maybe, with some changes to the National Firearms Act
Posted by: Miklos will pay extra the twin Ma Deuce model at December 07, 2025 01:06 AM (N7hqt)
417
Online mags are saying that Toyota can't build a $20K HiLux in the US.
What about affordability?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:58 AM (pkeXY)
412 If I was in the market for a truck, I would want that Toyota.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:01 AM (La8zG)
I want six hard points in the bed as standard, not an option.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 01:07 AM (/lPRQ)
Doof chewed me out for having some white lights, but phooey-- told him it helps me see during cleanup-- there's plenty of colored lights anyhow... *shrug*
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:10 AM (rdVOm)
422
Does the World have enough Lithium to support the ever-growing demand?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing
"Lithium is used to treat mania that is part of bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness). It is also used on a daily basis to reduce the frequency and severity of manic episodes. Manic-depressive patients experience severe mood changes, ranging from an excited or manic state (eg, unusual anger or irritability or a false sense of well-being) to depression or sadness."
Posted by: Blue haired pierced communists demand MOAR LITHIUM at December 07, 2025 01:10 AM (N7hqt)
Posted by: Guy at bar stool 6 at December 07, 2025 01:12 AM (N7hqt)
424
I used to make speculaas cookies for St. Nicholas day. So yummy. I don't have the recipe with me, but maybe I will just look one up and make them tomorrow. It is a soft dough that is rolled into a log, refrigerated, sliced thin and then baked.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:14 AM (La8zG)
425 Heh. Col. Klink is on tonight's episode of Lost in Space on MeTV. He's a galactic cop.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 07, 2025 01:14 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 07, 2025 01:17 AM (0nHVk)
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I used to make speculaas cookies for St. Nicholas day. So yummy. I don't have the recipe with me, but maybe I will just look one up and make them tomorrow. It is a soft dough that is rolled into a log, refrigerated, sliced thin and then baked.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel
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If you're willing to share, please post in the Food Thread tomorrow!
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:18 AM (rdVOm)
431 I want six hard points in the bed as standard, not an option.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Scrolling from the bottom up it looked as if you were going a bit kinky.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 01:18 AM (04Glf)
I picked up a whole case! Oh, they're by the door, not with the other plastic cups... my bad.
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:22 AM (rdVOm)
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Hey, now... don't EVER mess with a lady's drink!
*side eye* Never seen you here before, friend. You got references?
*hands Debby a fresh Chivas/rocks*
Posted by: JQ
Hey look, Miss - we serve hard drinks in here for ladies who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere". Is that clear, or do I have to slip you a Bacardi 151 with Kahlua and cream for a convincer?
Posted by: Surly bartender Miklos, who was supposed to have the night off at December 07, 2025 01:22 AM (N7hqt)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm)
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Posted by: Surly bartender Miklos, who was supposed to have the night off
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Well well well... wth you doin' *sitting at the bar* and intercepting a drink I served? Get yer butt back here & I'll gladly clock out for the duration.
Yeah, I'd *love* to have that 151 with k&c right about now, thanks!
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:28 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:29 AM (rdVOm)
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If you're willing to share, please post in the Food Thread tomorrow!
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I don't know if I will be around tomorrow, so I asked grok and got the following recipe. It looks similar to the one I have used in the past.
https://tinyurl.com/yjc9396m
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:31 AM (La8zG)
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One difference being that I didn't roll out the dough and used cookie cutters, but rather, rolled dough into a log, chill, and then slice thin, to bake. Easier. 😊
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:33 AM (La8zG)
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Yeah, I'd *love* to have that 151 with k&c right about now, thanks!
Posted by: JQ
I worked at place in new Orleans that was even open during Prohibition.
Nick's Night Train Bar
Mixology was both an art and a condition of employment.
I created a few, and that was one.
Alas, Nick's 1918-katrina
Posted by: Nostalgically less-Surly bartender Miklos at December 07, 2025 01:35 AM (N7hqt)
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Another difference is mixing the sliced almonds right into the dough. Again, easier.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:37 AM (La8zG)
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Hey Kestrel, it is good to see you, I hope that all is well with you.
JQ and Miklos behind the bar together next Saturday night, I think the Christmas party is off to a good start. What can I do or bring to assist in the celebration?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 07, 2025 01:38 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: Obscure Polka lyrics at December 07, 2025 01:38 AM (N7hqt)
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Hey look, Miss - we serve hard drinks in here for ladies who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere". Is that clear, or do I have to slip you a Bacardi 151 with Kahlua and cream for a convincer?
Posted by: Surly bartender Miklos, who was supposed to have the night off at December 07, 2025 01:22QAM (N7hqt)
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There was a blue drink with a rubber ducky . It was delicious. Not JQ's fault.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 01:40 AM (6p0Jv)
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What can I do or bring to assist in the celebration?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
Another inflatable pool, more Jell-o, lip balm, and many tiny umbrellas.
And a few dozen cotton bar mop towels
maybe more cheap Chinese strings of party lights
a fire extinguisher
Posted by: Event organizer Trainee Miklos at December 07, 2025 01:43 AM (N7hqt)
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Hi Debby! Good to see you! How are things going?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 07, 2025 01:48 AM (La8zG)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 07, 2025 01:49 AM (04Glf)
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JQ and Miklos behind the bar together next Saturday night, I think the Christmas party is off to a good start. What can I do or bring to assist in the celebration?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
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Just come on in! Be ready to *jump in* at any time, LOL!
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:50 AM (rdVOm)
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There was a blue drink with a rubber ducky . It was delicious.
I could create a drink with a ducky of whatever ever color in it.
The cute little ducky would be edible, or after a while slurpable, and would have about the same alcohol content as the drink on which it would happily float.
Posted by: Miklos would need a one day advance notice, with color of duck specified at December 07, 2025 01:51 AM (N7hqt)
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The cute little ducky would be edible, or after a while slurpable, and would have about the same alcohol content as the drink on which it would happily float.
Posted by: Miklos
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Soaked Gummy Ducks!
*whispers* Don't eat more than one, friends...
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 01:54 AM (rdVOm)
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Miklos. I still have the rubber ducky. Danced at a luau for it, which was not in character. The blue drink was not my usual thing, but delicious.
And good night, for realz.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 07, 2025 01:55 AM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 02:46 AM (rdVOm)
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Yeah, still here... didn't want to leave without getting my "shift drink" LOL
Before I get canned for putting up all those white lights...
Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2025 02:49 AM (rdVOm)
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Well that was a loud night. Late one too. Talk about rocking around the christmas tree.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 02:53 AM (snZF9)
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You're just in time. Rev. Wishbone is going to display his genitals.
Posted by: behold at December 07, 2025 02:56 AM (fkNqv)
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>>>You're just in time. Rev. Wishbone is going to display his genitals.
Posted by: behold
>This is a unruly, bawdry forum, somebody has to step up on occasion.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 03:00 AM (w6S0H)
481 >This is a unruly, bawdry forum, somebody has to step up on occasion.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 03:00 AM (w6S0H)
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The appropriate sound effect will be a
SPROOOOIIIINNNNG!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 03:03 AM (JkO4W)
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DH says I must make the little cookies. I am having shoulder surgery in a week and a half. He says I must make the cookies and put them in the freezer until Christmas. Otherwise, it will NOT be Christmas, or, I can put off the surgery until after the New Year.
I'm making the damned cookies.
Everybody wants them. Even I want them. But they are a one time a year sort of thing.
They keep well in the freezer, so I guess that's the path we are taking.
No little cookies, no Christmas.
Not sure Jesus agrees with that assessment, but then, He's never had them.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2025 03:27 AM (6Bc88)
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Just passing by. Late. Watched a movie we had never heard of. Stars Ben Kingsley. We liked it. Stayed up too late because we couldn't quit watching. Will probably snooze through the book thread tomorrow morning.
I usually leave a g'night music link; instead, here's one to the movie. (Since it's way too late for the movie thread.)
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So Yakutat had a 7.0 earthquake this morning, and has had about 20 aftershocks. Rocking and rolling down there. I have heard nothing about damage, or injury, or any other issue at this point.
Of course, mostly nobody lives in Yakutat, but still, that's a good sized earthquake.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2025 03:30 AM (6Bc88)
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Looked up Yakutat. It does seem to be all by its lonesome. Then, most of Alaska is. It's in the same part of Alaska as the capital, Juneau. Probably no where near it but looking at the map, it's in the general region. Did Juneau feel anything. 7.0 is quite the rattle.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 07, 2025 03:43 AM (DqJmd)
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>>>Of course, mostly nobody lives in Yakutat, but still, that's a good sized earthquake.
Posted by: tcn in AK
>I tried to sleep thru the Northridge earthquake, but the ceiling buckling and the toilet expelling water caught my attention.
This kind of event reminds you that you are mortal and just along for the ride.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 03:44 AM (w6S0H)
Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 04:00 AM (RuTUS)
Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: Rental Family
If he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser would be alongside Tom Hanks in terms of being the modern equivalent of a Golden Age actor like Jimmy Stewart or Henry Fonda. The difference between the two is that I will go see a movie just because Brendan Fraser is in it, which is not at all true of Hanks.
The excesses of The Whale aside—and its director, Darren Aronofsky, whom Ken Russell calls from the grave to say "Settle down"—Fraser was terrific. A well-earned Oscar.
This is probably a double-edged sword in that we probably permit a character played by Fraser to get away with things he really shouldn't. In fact, despite the very strong marks for Rental Family, all I could see as the movie started rolling, was all the many, many ways this movie could go bad.
Gaijin on the train.
Fraser plays Phillip Vandarploeg, an American who moved to Japan seven years prior after becoming a sensation as the star of a toothpaste commercial, has fallen on hard times when he's called by his agent to play—well, I'm not going to say what, exactly, because while this movie doesn't have really big twists or surprises, the ones it does have shouldn't be spoiled. Despite not doing very well at the gig (because he's completely unprepared) he's approached by Shinji, the owner of a company called Rental Family. They need a token American.
Philip is obviously used to this, although I can't help but note that he's not a token at all.
You see, the business that Shinji has is that he supplies people to act out parts in other people's lives for various reasons. One of their most popular jobs is euphemistically called "Apology Services", where a woman (Aiko, played by Mari Yamamoto) pretends to be a man's mistress and apologizes to his wife for having an affair.
This is the important thing about this job: He's lying to someone, and he has considerable issue doing so. The first job he has seems relatively harmless. And he has a kind of nice one where he plays video games and acts friendly toward a shut-in. But the first big job he gets is pretending be a girl's father.
The girl's mother is trying to get her into an elite private school, and the school isn't interested in single mothers. The mom doesn't want to force the child to have to lie, so instead has Philip pretend to be her father to her.
Philip's inability to FAKE attachment is very American, and of course why we like him.
This, and another job, where Philip pretends to be a journalist interviewing an old, forgotten actor (played by Akira Emoto, who has over 700 credits to his name) are the ones where you can see the train wreck coming. As light a touch as the movie has, you just wanna yell "Don't do it! You're not cut out for this, Brendan Fraser!"
Because there are two main ways you can go with a story like this, right? You can pull a Rain Man and have your Tom Cruise character be a semi-sociopath/narcissist who learns a little something about being human.
But Philip is alone in Japan. He has no family. The only people we see him interact with are his agent (on the phone) and a prostitute. Professional relationships, in other words.
You know, immediately, that Philip is going to end up caring too much, and possibly caring in ways that are culturally inappropriate.
The director (the mononymic Hikari) handles this with a deft touch: Very light, very Japanese, able to clearly communicate the issues that arise from arrangements like these without being moralizing or heavy-handed. This might not be "true" on some level, I wouldn't know. But it makes for a pleasant and emotional experience that still manages to avoid being mawkish.
This gig, which happens immediately after Philip accepts the job, made me a bit nervous about what might come next.
Seriously, I look more for (and celebrate) movies avoiding pitfalls these days than achieving high aesthetic points. This does both. The cinematography of Japan is perfect in that sense: It shows lovely shots of Tokyo and the countryside—but it isn't a fairy tale like (e.g.) Amélie. The wonderfully scrubbed and saturated views of France worked perfectly for that film: This one looks like a Tokyo you could actually go visit.
Terrific acting. Good story structure. Strong ending. Highlighting the issues with these arrangements but still managing to pull out a happy ending.
It's an increasingly rare "general recommendation". If you like movies about people with humor and drama, the only negative (for the average moviegoer) is the use of subtitles. I would argue the film excels at that, too, though because there are just enough subtitles to make you remember where you are. There are a lot of excellent touches that enhance the fish-out-of-water feel, like Fraser being 6'3" and having a pot-belly. (Although Takehiro Hira is six-feet tall, Fraser is always bigger and taller and paler than everyone else.)
It probably won't get a lot of award nominations, but it should.
Oh, there is a theoretical negative that filled me with dread: The idea that somebody would remake this movie, but base it in America, and have it star, I dunno, Kevin James and Adam Sandler. Or Vince Vaugh and Chris Pratt.
One of the best movies of the year and a rare mix of award and box office bait. You know, what used to just be known as "a good movie". And one of three in 2025 I would recommend for general audiences—which, honestly, is two or three more than I'm able to recommend in the past few years. The other two are Mission: Impossible 8 - The Final Reckoning and The Naked Gun reboot.
Destined to be crushed by Wicked, Zootopia and Five Nights at Freddy 2, and to under-perform Bugonia, Heart Eyes, Chainsaw Man, the re-release of Wicked—all of which serve as a challenge of my ability to estimate what "general audiences" will go for.
It's nice to see small businesses thriving in Japan. Even if they're fundamentally very weird.
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I loved The Mummy, more that I expected to.
The chemistry between him and Rachel Weiss was amazing. (And Rachel Weiss was so hot…wait til you see her in a snug, tight plaid pencil skirt…
Anyways, this was the one and only time I remember seeing Brendan Frasier in a movie.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 06, 2025 07:35 PM (4786I)
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Damn autocorrect…has it never heard of Rachel Weisz? Really?
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 06, 2025 07:35 PM (4786I)
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They're talking sequel to that franchise. I would be down for it, if ... nervous.
Check out Fraser in "Blast from the Past". Hell, he's good in "Encino Man," which is just a goofy, dumb teen comedy.
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I, too, like Brendan just because he seems like a nice guy. He has an open face. Which probably limits the kind of rolls he can take.
And I, too, have no idea what the GenPub likes, because I'm a bit of a weirdo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:44 PM (kpS4V)
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I used to sort of liked Tom Hanks at the beginning of his career but started not to care for his acting or able to suspend belief seeing him as a leading man.
Though I think Nothing in Common with Jackie Gleason is an underrated Hanks film.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:45 PM (KDPiq)
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With hanks after a point, its like they were forcing us to like him
Fraser is more like chris pratt to which chsrm comes natural
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr)
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"If he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser..."
What does this mean?
Posted by: Lyford at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (gb+vr)
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Fraser was great in the TV sitcom , Scrubs for the 2 or 3 episodes he did playing the brother of Dr Cox's wife.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:47 PM (KDPiq)
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8 Adam Sandler's Uncut Gems is the train wreck you see coming movie I found hard to watch though it was written, acted and directed fantastically
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (KDPiq)
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I had the exact same reaction. You could not derail this bulletin train of bad choices.
I tried to see it first in a theater but the volume was cranked to Monsters of Rock levels and I had to flee, thinking I hated the film. I later saw it at home and liked -- well, admired -- the story.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:47 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 07:52 PM (Kt19C)
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Over on Kickstarter, there's a campaign for a documentary about "The Final Sacrifice," an old, indy-produced Canadian movie. The film is best known for being featured on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000, and, in my humble opinion, it made for the single best episode in the 13 seasons of MST3K! It had the best of both worlds; there was a competent script and memorable characters, so the story of movie is enjoyable in-and-of itself, but the lack of budget and just the oddness of some of the characters made the movie eminently mock-able!
Anyways, the reward tiers for the documentary are a little bit steep, but....considering how often I've watched that movie, I don't have too much hesitation throwing a bit of cash their way.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 07:52 PM (Lhaco)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:53 PM (bXbFr)
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I honestly haven't seen much of Brenden Frasier, but The Mummy was better than it had any right to be, and he's a star just based on that performance!
It's nice to see him have a career resurgence, even if I'm not terribly interested in the new movies he's making.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (Lhaco)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (kpS4V)
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Loved Fraser in Bedazzled
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (SRRAx)
Yes. Wife and I love that movie.
And the two Mummy movies. As someone mentioned, he and Rachel Weisz had crazy chemistry. A rare thing in cinema.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:55 PM (0aYVJ)
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Speaking of Adam Sandler , one of his other serious movies that I think is really good and would recommend is Funny People. I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (KDPiq)
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The film is best known for being featured on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000, and, in my humble opinion, it made for the single best episode in the 13 seasons of MST3K!
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It's great, but it's no "Space Mutiny" or "Alien From L.A.". I do love all the hockey hair and Canuck jokes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V)
Some what less plausible than the original with dudley moore
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:57 PM (bXbFr)
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So many many years ago my best friend had to work and his sister (1 year and 1 grade older) wanted to go see
a movie she had won tickets to.
So low and behold I am at his house with duct tape hemming up he Gloria Vanderbuilt jeans (she had bought that day) to go see Bee Gees St Peppers.
North Park Mall Dallas Tx must have been summer of 78.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:57 PM (gbOdA)
If memory serves, Fraser starred with Michael Caine in a remake of The Quiet American. Never saw either version, but heard good things about both -- will get to them Real Soon Now.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (q3u5l)
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Both Vaughn and Sandler have more range than just comedy. It's just that few of the projects they are on bother to use that range.
Posted by: ravenshrike at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (16udA)
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Speaking of Adam Sandler , one of his other serious movies that I think is really good and would recommend is Funny People. I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (KDPiq)
Me too. Very well done.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (0aYVJ)
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there will be a release of a remastered Star Wars.
Posted by: r hennigantx
With the true story of Solo shooting first!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (z/7Ah)
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I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (KDPiq)
Me too. Very well done.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (0aYVJ)
I am taking a lot of rhino penis
please dont call me that in public
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (gbOdA)
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Yes rogen should be taken in small doses like idocaine
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (bXbFr)
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Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 07:57 PM (gbOdA)
I liked The Bee Gees a lot and don't hate the Beatles but that movie was really bad Earth Wind and Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life was the only saving grace.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (KDPiq)
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With the true story of Solo shooting first!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:59 PM (z/7Ah)
original
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (DJUFe)
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I liked The Bee Gees a lot and don't hate the Beatles but that movie was really bad Earth Wind and Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life was the only saving grace.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (KDPiq)
I think the fifth beatle played that one too.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:01 PM (gbOdA)
I'm back from the Christmas (Weihnachten) fair at the local German-American Center. No National Socialist night, but lots of outdoor booths with crafts -- mostly for women and children -- and some food and mulled wine. Miss Linda got a pic with Krampus, her favorite Christmas icon.
The good: The city has paved the road in front of the center, and the live band, w/ Xmas music of course, was not ear-shatteringly loud. The bad: the prices! $8 for a cup of mulled wine, $5 for a big pretzel, and one booth wanted $15 for a loaf of Stollen bread. And they wanted $5 to park in their lot. (I dodged the last two.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (wzUl9)
46 He's no James Stewart.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Can't hate a Brigadier general.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (z/7Ah)
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Is this going to be the original version of Star Wars with no CGI Jabba the Hutt?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (kpS4V)
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Both Vaughn and Sandler have more range than just comedy. It's just that few of the projects they are on bother to use that range.
Posted by: ravenshrike at December 06, 2025 07:58 PM (16udA)
Vince Vaughn was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (KDPiq)
4913 "If he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser..."
What does this mean?
Posted by: Lyford at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (gb+vr)
He was blacklisted after accusing the head of the HFPA of sexual assault after the guy groped him at a luncheon.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 06, 2025 08:03 PM (gUs21)
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Wolfus, I've sent out Krampus cards for Christmas,
My favorite has a cute Krampus glowering and saying "You. In the bag".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:04 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:05 PM (gbOdA)
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Been a while since I watched it, but I don't recall Vaughn being bad in Dragged Across Concrete either. And yes, he was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99.
I didn't even think Vaughn was all that bad in the van Sant remake of Psycho. Not up to Perkins maybe, but who would have been?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 08:05 PM (q3u5l)
He's no James Stewart.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025
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No, nor is he a Jack Lemmon. But he has taken the *kind* of roles that JL would have during his career, going from light comedy to drama and back again. I can imagine a 1960 Jack doing a film like Cast Away, for instance, or You've Got Mail, in his case w/ Shirley Maclaine. And Hanks in a film like The Apartment -- though I'm not suggesting he would be as good as Jack was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:06 PM (wzUl9)
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Vince Vaughn was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM (KDPiq)
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Also in "Dragged Across Concrete", which is great but a tough film to watch, like "Bone Tomahawk".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:07 PM (kpS4V)
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If he hadn't had his career derailed by a series of mishaps and downright evil, Brendan Fraser would be alongside Tom Hanks
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"George of the Jungle" was bad, but evil? Come on now.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 06, 2025 08:07 PM (kDHiw)
56Vince Vaughn was awesome in Brawl in Cell Block 99.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025
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He always surprises me -- in a good way -- when I see him in a film.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:08 PM (wzUl9)
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I didn't even think Vaughn was all that bad in the van Sant remake of Psycho. Not up to Perkins maybe, but who would have been?
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The trouble was, Vaughn seemed quietly psychotic from the get-go. Not like that nice young man Anthony Perkins!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:09 PM (kpS4V)
58 Speaking of Adam Sandler , one of his other serious movies that I think is really good and would recommend is Funny People. I even liked Seth Rogen a lot in the movie which is very unusual for me.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025
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I didn't go to see Just Go With It for him, or Jen Aniston either, but for Nicole Kidman. But both Adam and Jen did well and had nice chemistry.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:09 PM (wzUl9)
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And Hanks in a film like The Apartment -- though I'm not suggesting he would be as good as Jack was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:06 PM (wzUl9)
Agree . I think Hanks would have been a good casting choice if they had done a remake.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:09 PM (KDPiq)
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Another example of on-screen chemistry is Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore in The Wedding Singer.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 08:10 PM (0aYVJ)
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>>11 I think Nothing in Common with Jackie Gleason is an underrated Hanks film.
It was a path Hanks could have taken to become a serious actor. He didn't. That said, in spite of its myriad appalling flaws, Joe vs the Volcano is a wonderful flick.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:11 PM (NcvvS)
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Forrest Gump was the only thing Hanks was remarkable for in his appearance and he just seemed a natural.
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I actually didn't think Hanks was that good in Forrest Gump; Gary Sinise was really good in that one. I did think Hanks was great in Apollo 13 though.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (kDHiw)
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Speaking of mummy movies, The Mummy's Tomb is on Svengoolie.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (vFG9F)
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I first noticed Hanks, like a lot of people did, when he was in the TV sitcom Bosom Buddies. I'd thought it would be a one-joke show, but it was written quite well and was often very funny.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)
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Another example of on-screen chemistry is Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore in The Wedding Singer.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 08:10 PM (0aYVJ)
You reminded me of one of my favorite guilty pleasures. Actually I think it's really good and don't feel guilty.
Blended.
And as you say the chemistry between Sandler and Barrymore is great.
Speaking of Drew Barrymore, if you're looking for a RomCom to watch, I would highly recommend Going the Distance.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:14 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 08:17 PM (Jj1OR)
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I liked Tom Hanks in 'Road to Perdition'. A very un-Tom Hanks movie. It's not the best gangster flick ever, but it's good.
Kind of like Kevin Costner in 'Mr. Brooks'. He plays a serial killer. He actually does creepy normal very well. Again, not the best serial killer movie but a good one. (Citizen X and Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer are the best ones)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (DqJmd)
72
68 I never got over Tom Hanks in a dress.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F)
I don't need you to worry for me 'cause I'm alright
I don't want you to tell me it's time to come home
I don't care what you say anymore, this is my life
Go ahead with your own life, leave me alone
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (gbOdA)
73I never got over Tom Hanks in a dress.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025
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His character and Scolari's only wore the female getups when entering or leaving the residential hotel for women they had been forced to live in -- everything else in NYC, even in 1980, was too expensive, was the setup. They didn't dress as The Girls at work, for instance.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 06, 2025 08:20 PM (f0sNM)
78
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It's great, but it's no "Space Mutiny" or "Alien From L.A.". I do love all the hockey hair and Canuck jokes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V)
"Alien From LA"? There's an episode that doesn't get talked about much...I do enjoy it (how can I not, with Kathy Ireland as the star?!) but it's not on my list of favorites. Ironically, I wanted the miner guy (Gus?) to be a bit more over-the-top and a bit more featured...Basically, I thought the movie/episode would have been better had he been more like Rowsdower!
As for "Space Mutiny," I have nothing bad to say about Space Mutiny! It is easily on my Top-10 list, but I just personally love "The Final Sacrifice" more.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 08:21 PM (Lhaco)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 06, 2025 08:21 PM (bXbFr)
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Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:18 PM (DqJmd)
I thought Road to Perdition could have been much better with someone other than Hanks. I liked it anyway though I could not see Hanks as a tough guy gangster.
Mr Brooks was really really good and Costner nailed the role. Demi Moore is who almost ruined it.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq)
83
What was the film with Sandler and Tea Leoni? Was that Blended?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:19 PM (wzUl
Blended was Drew Barrymore
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 08:23 PM (KDPiq)
84 NOBODY looks back at ANY Tom Hanks role and thinks fondly or warmly at that character. He is not, nor will he ever be a "George Bailey."
Not even Forest Gump, which is not a great movie. It's okay. I was original, I'll say that. Forest is not some lovable character -- he's a pathetic dolt in which the audience feels pity, mostly.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:24 PM (DJUFe)
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"His character and Scolari's only wore the female getups when entering or leaving the residential hotel for women they had been forced to live in --"
Oh yeah sure they were totally not gay.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:24 PM (vFG9F)
https://dire-duplicity.com/
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 06, 2025 08:20 PM (f0sNM)
Well, well, Merry Christmas to everyone who has a YouTube channel devoted to watching/reviewing B-movies!
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 08:24 PM (Lhaco)
87
OT, For Shame Ohio State. Street punk tackle on Indiana QB.
Game should be forfeited. A real coach would take them home.
Lousy crooked cheating SOB's.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 06, 2025 08:25 PM (zdLoL)
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For several work-and-recreational reasons, never saw Bosom Buddies. The movies Hanks did during the mid-to-late 80's were pretty good. He was not ever going to be James Stewart, but would like to come up with a comparable actor who did light/romantic comedy and historical fiction, with some drama included in the mix. He was never going to be Lord Olivier, but he was capable within his realm.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:26 PM (NcvvS)
89"His character and Scolari's only wore the female getups when entering or leaving the residential hotel for women they had been forced to live in --"
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Oh yeah sure they were totally not gay.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025
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Not sure about Scolari's character, but Hanks's was besotted with the tall Marilyn-like blonde. (The actress later married Dan Aykroyd.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:26 PM (wzUl9)
that goofy idiot Gene Simmons is receiving a Kennedy Center award from Our Favorite President, tonight.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:27 PM (DJUFe)
91NOBODY looks back at ANY Tom Hanks role and thinks fondly or warmly at that character. He is not, nor will he ever be a "George Bailey."
Not even Forest Gump, which is not a great movie. It's okay. I was original, I'll say that. Forest is not some lovable character -- he's a pathetic dolt in which the audience feels pity, mostly.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025
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What about the film, can't think of the title, where he plays a young boy cast into adult form? There's a scene or several at F.A.O. Schwarz.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:28 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:28 PM (DJUFe)
93 What about the film, can't think of the title, where he plays a young boy cast into adult form? There's a scene or several at F.A.O. Schwarz.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
BIG?
Yeah, it was okay.
Don't know if it stands up today.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:29 PM (DJUFe)
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And Wolfus said at @53 what my thoughts were - only more cogently. *doffs cap* sir.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:31 PM (NcvvS)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:31 PM (DJUFe)
96What about the film, can't think of the title, where he plays a young boy cast into adult form? There's a scene or several at F.A.O. Schwarz.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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BIG?
Yeah, it was okay.
Don't know if it stands up today.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025
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That's it. For some reason I was thinking the title was Restless!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:32 PM (wzUl9)
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The Green Mile, Saving Private Ryan, and Road to Perdition were also good Hanks movies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:32 PM (L/fGl)
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that goofy idiot Gene Simmons is receiving a Kennedy Center award from Our Favorite President, tonight.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:27 PM (DJUFe)
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LOL I momentarily conflated him with spastic imp Richard Simmons.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:33 PM (kpS4V)
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I can't watch more than the first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan anymore, Hanks doesn't help it
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:34 PM (Ia/+0)
100The Green Mile, Saving Private Ryan, and Road to Perdition were also good Hanks movies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025
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I think I've seen the first (and read King's novel), but not the others.
Hanks has had good luck -- his costar Peter Scolari was as talented when they were on Bosom Buddies, but he hasn't had the big-screen fortune that Hanks has. And since he became a big name, TH has picked good material on the whole.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:35 PM (wzUl9)
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NOBODY looks back at ANY Tom Hanks role and thinks fondly or warmly at that character. He is not, nor will he ever be a "George Bailey."
Not even Forest Gump, which is not a great movie. It's okay. I was original, I'll say that. Forest is not some lovable character -- he's a pathetic dolt in which the audience feels pity, mostly.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Tom Hanks peaked during Bosom Buddies. I hated Forrest Gump. He was a producer of Band of Brothers which I really like and a worthwhile program.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:35 PM (6p0Jv)
102
Never saw Big, but saw trailers for it when his 'colleague' wanted to sleep with him, Hanks wanted the top bunk. :-)
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:37 PM (NcvvS)
103
Lo these many years ago, I saw Hanks in the screwball comedy Bachelor Party and he was good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:38 PM (L/fGl)
104
The soccer ball was more charismatic than Hanks in whatever movie that was.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:38 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:41 PM (vFG9F)
107Bachelor Party as screwball? Kinda/sorta farce, okay...
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:42 PM (NcvvS)
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I was trying to thinknof movies to defend Hanks and am having a tough time.
His roles are all right, but he kind of floats through them.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s)
109
I haven't seen The Whale yet but have always thought Brendan Fraser was a great actor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 08:43 PM (SwYQF)
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Hanks is our equivalent of Jack Lemmon, as Harrison Ford was our Bogart. Neither is the equal of the original, but they handled the same *kinds* of roles.
Chris Pratt could be another young Ford -- but Hollywood has lost its way in the PC Forest and doesn't know how to make movies like Raiders any more. Otherwise CP would have donned the fedora, jacket, gun, and whip years ago for a couple of period-piece Indiana Jones movies.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:43 PM (wzUl9)
Always liked him...until he got weird in the last few years.
Really Low-T guy.
The Mummy is one of favorite movies, which means I re-watch it. Rewatchable movies means they are great. I never had the urge to rewatch Forest Gump, Saving Ryan's Privates, or Lost.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:43 PM (DJUFe)
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The scene [in Bachelor Party] where the nude Tracy (Monique Gabrielle) seduces Rick was cut out of mainstream TV broadcasts. Gabrielle said they also shot a TV version where she wears a negligee with one strap lowered, but it was also cut out of broadcasts because it showed too much cleavage.
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I don't understand the phrase "too much cleavage."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:44 PM (L/fGl)
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The soccer ball was more charismatic than Hanks in whatever movie that was.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:38 PM (6p0Jv)
Castaway. I saw a ewetub blurb that was trying to intimate that whatshername was already cheating on him before the plane crashed but passed as the movie always annoyed me. Guys plane crashes, everyone in his life moves on. The End. Thanks movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:44 PM (zZu0s)
114
Very obscure movie trivia, but I think 'Vandarploeg' is the alias Jeremy Iron's character Simon Gruber uses when he visits the Federal Reserve in Die Hard with a Vengeance.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (CwhoI)
There's a couple movies I want to see but I'm lazy and it's cold outside.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V)
116 I even recently downloaded Blast From The Past because I like it -- but that dummy Alicia Silverstone said some dumb things recently and ruined it for me.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (DJUFe)
117
I'm trying to recall any Brendan Fraser movies that I've seen that are not 'The Mummy' +sequels. I'm drawing a blank.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (DqJmd)
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I'm currently watching the series"Rabbit Fall" on Amazon Prime. Think of a low budget version of "Twin Peaks" made in Canada, for Canadians. It was made in 2007, but follows the Kathleen Kennedy model of "put a chick in it and make her lame and gay!"
Well, at the end of Season 1, she isn't gay, yet. I will continue to watch, keeping score of the plot twists that are telegraphed. I'm betting there will be a "Luke and Leia are what!?!?" moment coming up soon.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (znQHQ)
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I loved The Mummy, more that I expected to.
The chemistry between him and Rachel Weiss was amazing. (And Rachel Weiss was so hot…wait til you see her in a snug, tight plaid pencil skirt…
Anyways, this was the one and only time I remember seeing Brendan Frasier in a movie.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 06, 2025 07:35 PM (4786I)
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The first time we saw him was at a drive-in theater -- in Santa Cruz with my teenaged step-daughter and her friend -- with Pauly Shore in Encino Man.
I had low expectations, but it was pretty funny ... and I loved The Mummy and its sequel.
I forget what "evil" like him being blackballed for some reason happened to his career (I do remember some controversy) -- and will have to search for the details.
I'll be back ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (My0zW)
120I don't understand the phrase "too much cleavage."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025
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Not in that order, anyway. "Cleavage too?" "Much" would work fine.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:46 PM (wzUl9)
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Harrison Ford is NOT our Bogart. He'll, I think Bruce Willis is closer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:46 PM (zZu0s)
122
I remember Tawny Kitaen was in Bachelor Party also. Later to dance across the hoods of cars in Whitesnake videos. And she is an illustration of Rule No. 1 for the Morons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:46 PM (6p0Jv)
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I can't watch more than the first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan anymore, Hanks doesn't help it
Posted by: Skip
Watched it again recently .. they did more stupid shit than I remembered.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (/lPRQ)
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When I think of Brendan Fraser, my mind goes to Blast from the Past (watched so often) and Bedazzled (re-watched recently), and I see him now and think, whatever happened to the poor guy? Of course, those movies were a quarter-century ago. How tempus fugits! Only other thing I ever saw him in was Doom Patrol, where he really didn't look good. (Robot suit.)
Brendan Fraser's career experienced a significant decline in the late 2000s and early 2010s, following a period of major success in the 1990s and early 2000s, particularly with the The Mummy franchise.
His absence from major Hollywood films was attributed to a combination of personal and health-related challenges. Fraser has publicly discussed suffering from severe injuries sustained during stunt work, particularly while filming The Mummy series, which led to multiple surgeries, including a laminectomy and a partial knee replacement, and a vocal cord repair.
He also revealed he was in and out of hospitals for nearly seven years due to these injuries.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (My0zW)
127 I'm trying to recall any Brendan Fraser movies that I've seen that are not 'The Mummy' +sequels. I'm drawing a blank.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025
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Wasn't there one where he plays a young man who grew up with his parents in a well-equipped 1960s bomb shelter, and when he emerges he's gobsmacked by the 1980s?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:47 PM (wzUl9)
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Very obscure movie trivia, but I think 'Vandarploeg' is the alias Jeremy Iron's character Simon Gruber uses when he visits the Federal Reserve in Die Hard with a Vengeance.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 06, 2025 08:45 PM (CwhoI)
Vanderflug?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:48 PM (zZu0s)
129
People in Palmer and Wasilla are posting about things that are blowing into their yards, like, "If this is your shed, please wait until the wind stops and then come and get it."
Hurricane force winds in the valley this weekend, along with serious ice from last week.
We are staying in, thanks.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:48 PM (6Bc88)
In addition to physical health issues, Fraser faced profound personal losses, including the death of his mother from cancer in 2016, and the emotional toll of a difficult divorce from his wife Afton Smith.
He has also spoken about being sexually assaulted in 2003 by Philip Berk, then president of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (HFPA), an incident he claims led to a period of depression and a belief that he was blacklisted from Hollywood.
Fraser stated that after making the allegation public in a 2018 GQ interview, his career phone calls stopped, and he questioned whether he had been ostracized.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 06, 2025 08:48 PM (My0zW)
131 Incidentally, I recently downloaded a 1992 B-movie titled Nemesis. Set in 2027.
I don't remember it, but it has all the greats, such as Tim Thomerson, Brion James, and boobies.
IMDB description:
Alex, a burned out LA cyborg cop, is forced by commissioner Farnsworth to find his former cyborg partner and lover Jared who's about to deliver sensitive data to cyborg terrorists who wish to wage war against humans. Is he being played?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:49 PM (DJUFe)
132
Oh, wait. The Burbs. I love that movie. Carrie Fisher and Corey... Haim?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:49 PM (zZu0s)
133
Wolfus, Hanks has never had Lemmon's manic vibe. Hanks has no equivalent the 50's-70's that would resonate. Hanks could never have been a believable Ensign Pulver in Mr Roberts. If he'd been in the film, he'd have been one of the (probably featured) EMs (Dolan, maybe?).
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 08:49 PM (NcvvS)
134
Tom Hanks plays himself in every movie. So boring. He was not even funny in Bachelor Party. I do not understand his appeal at all.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 08:50 PM (93/YK)
135Wasn't there one where he plays a young man who grew up with his parents in a well-equipped 1960s bomb shelter, and when he emerges he's gobsmacked by the 1980s?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Yes. 'Blast from the Past'. I haven't seen it. Heard it's ok though. (and I'm not 100% on the name of the movie but I know which one you're referring too)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 08:50 PM (DqJmd)
136Harrison Ford is NOT our Bogart. He'll, I think Bruce Willis is closer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025
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Maybe so. But I can picture Bogart as an Indy Jones-like character in a 1943 thriller set in the Andes or the mountains of Mexico. And Ford did play Bogart's role in the remake of Sabrina, right? A very different interpretation, from what I gather -- I've never seen either film all the way through -- but the same basic role.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:51 PM (wzUl9)
137 I think what "blacklisted" Fraser is he's emotional, and nobody wanted to work with him. He simply wasn't worth the trouble. It's obvious, isn't it?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:52 PM (DJUFe)
138
I like both Sabrina's but both... have issues.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:53 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:53 PM (Ia/+0)
140
I hesitate to admit what movies I saw this week. Sometimes I just impulsively watch something that shows up on the YooToob sidebar recommendations instead of sifting through the library to see if I'd rather watch something else.
Well, I'll admit to watching Star Trek: First Contact. Had its moments. Wanted to see Zefram Cochran at the end say, That'll do, pig. 🙄
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I think what "blacklisted" Fraser is he's emotional, and nobody wanted to work with him. He simply wasn't worth the trouble. It's obvious, isn't it?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:52 PM (DJUFe)
His career did seem to suddenly stop after being in many movies at the same time he claims he got assaulted.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:54 PM (zZu0s)
142
Bogie was Bogie whatever role. Harrison Ford was Indiana Jones or Han Solo.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 08:54 PM (6p0Jv)
143
Therefore the Mummy movies, then Blast from the Past, also that George of the jungle thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:55 PM (zZu0s)
144 two Fall/Halloween/Thanksgiving movie recommendations:
Sleepy Hollow
Dark Shadows
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 08:55 PM (DJUFe)
145
Honestly Ford seemed to forget how to play Solo after Empire. Or just didnt care to.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:56 PM (zZu0s)
146
And I can believe the claims of gaybsexual assault. Fuck, Terry Crews got assaulted.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (zZu0s)
147
Big is worth a watch mainly for Robert Loggia. I remember nothing else about the flick.
And if I had to pick a Hanks picture to revisit, it'd be The Money Pit. Not so much for Hanks himself, but the never-ending disaster of trying to fix up that wreck of a house. Joe Mantegna doesn't get a ton of screen time, but is quite funny. Alexander Godunov (sp?) too.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (q3u5l)
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So this mummy walks dragging one foot but he climbed that trellis to the second floor no problem. Excellent upper body strength I suppose.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F)
Sleepy Joe FORGETS the name of his former Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre.
BIDEN: "When I took office I promised to have an administration that looked like America... not just for the community, but my Press Secretary 'KAREEM.'"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 08:57 PM (L/fGl)
150
Tom Hanks was pretty good in "Last Man Standing"
He was perfect for his character
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 08:58 PM (/lPRQ)
151
Great Escape is on UToob at the moment. Holds up fairly well. Think there's a "making of" video also on that platform that is interesting. McQueen and Garner's characters didn't exist, but producers reasonably figured US audiences would be much more interested in based-on-real events flick with Americans inserted into it. But there was a fair amount of dedication to accuracy in certain things, especially by the standards of the time.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 08:59 PM (U/Byj)
152 Bogie was Bogie whatever role. Harrison Ford was Indiana Jones or Han Solo.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025
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His Capt. Queeg was very different from his Sam Spade, or Roy Earle, or Fred Dobbs. But you're right in that I could not see Ford playing any of those roles, except maybe Spade.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:00 PM (wzUl9)
153
Why in the world is Creepy Joe speaking in public at all?
Posted by: I gotta ask at December 06, 2025 09:00 PM (XQo4F)
154
Weird that the two actors that have made the most movies I like got their big break playing Stoners and not considered great actors.
Keanu Reeves and Matthew McConnaughey
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:01 PM (KDPiq)
155
Actually went to the theater last week to see Sarah's Oil, filmed right here in Land of the Red Man. Did a fair job of showing Oklahoma in the early oil boom wars. Really liked the young actress who played Sarah.
Local theater will be showing Scrooged on the 16th. We first saw it in first-run theater, large audience. The end where Murray breaks the fourth wall and addresses the theater audience works much better with a theater audience.
156
Calling it a night, all, but consider: is there an actor from the last 30 years who could do Rick Blaine in Casablanca and Charlie Allnut in African Queen? Maybe Bruce Willis in the 90s. Maybe.
Thanks, moviegique, for the thread!
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:01 PM (NcvvS)
157
My sister rented Saving Private Ryan when it came out on VHS so my father could see it. When it was over, I'm told that his comment was, "Now let me tell you everything they got wrong in that one." He was WWII 82nd Airborne and knew whereof he spoke.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:02 PM (q3u5l)
158Tom Hanks was pretty good in "Last Man Standing"
He was perfect for his character
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025
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He was in that? The lead was Bruce Willis, wearing a fedora a shade too big for him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:02 PM (wzUl9)
159
I enjoyed Fraser during early career. I'd probably like him again, but he's just not making movies that interest me so far. He seems weird. But I can't tell if he's weird because of whatever happened, or he overreacted to whatever happened because he's weird. I've never really understood what happened either.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2025 09:03 PM (MIvVV)
Bogie had the characteristics of a genuine movie star which put limits on what he could do as an actor. But it surely wasn't lack of capability. He's radically different in "Caine", "African Queen", "Sabrina", etc. He has a very fey turn in "Falcon" that makes you cringe but not from being unconvincing.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:04 PM (Ia/+0)
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Bogart always played the bad guy early in his career. But his acting is so good you forget he's not the best looking or toughest looking or stereotypical lady's man actor.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:04 PM (KDPiq)
163Calling it a night, all, but consider: is there an actor from the last 30 years who could do Rick Blaine in Casablanca and Charlie Allnut in African Queen? Maybe Bruce Willis in the 90s. Maybe.
Thanks, moviegique, for the thread!
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025
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Excellent point, Nazdar! Willis could certainly do both.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:04 PM (wzUl9)
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He was in that? The lead was Bruce Willis, wearing a fedora a shade too big for him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Just joking.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 09:05 PM (/lPRQ)
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Key Largo was also one of my favorite Bogart roles.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:05 PM (zZu0s)
Elliot Gould had a good turn with "The Long Goodbye" but mostly by NOT being Bogie. Besides being the '70s. I mention it only because the thought of Gould in that role really turned me off so much that I didn't see that movie until the 2010s.
In the past 30 years? Kiefer Sutherland, maybe. Or Tom Hardy.
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Relative got bumped up to first class on a flight to Hawaii many years ago. Movie being shown (days of one screen, not little ones in every seat) was Money Pit.
Fairly young infant was in tow, young enough that mom kept him on her lap. When she needed to hit the facilities, she got up, and was hesitating to wake the sleeping husband. Another passenger - Tom Hanks - quickly says to her he'd be glad to watch the kid while she's gone. "Oh, I'm in this movie". There was another well known actor, woman, forget her name, she sauntered over and they both entertained the kid while mom was away.
Apparently Hanks was a very nice guy, and unsurprisingly was good at being goofy to entertain a toddler. So there's that.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:06 PM (U/Byj)
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His Capt. Queeg was very different from his Sam Spade, or Roy Earle, or Fred Dobbs. But you're right in that I could not see Ford playing any of those roles, except maybe Spade.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:00 PM (wzUl9)
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Thank you for putting it better than I did. Bogie is a favorite. A classic. Perhaps it's because he is of my great grandparents generation. He was in so many classic movies. Some stinkers, but some truly greats.
Hans Solo and Indiana Jones are of my childhood. Those are the only two roles I think of when you say Harrison Ford.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:07 PM (6p0Jv)
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Key Largo was also one of my favorite Bogart roles.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:05 PM (zZu0s)
In my top ten films. I'm not a Bogart fan boy but he happens to have 4 of the movies in my top ten .
The other three are Casablanca, Sahara and Caine Mutiny.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:08 PM (KDPiq)
170Bogie had the characteristics of a genuine movie star which put limits on what he could do as an actor. But it surely wasn't lack of capability. He's radically different in "Caine", "African Queen", "Sabrina", etc. He has a very fey turn in "Falcon" that makes you cringe but not from being unconvincing.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025
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His Queeg is the definitive version of the character. Lloyd Nolan (look him up) played Queeg in the Broadway play The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial w/ Henry Fonda as the defense attorney, and I'll bet Nolan was great. But Bogart is the man.
As for HB's Sam Spade, he makes the line from Gutman (Sydney Greenstreet) believable when the latter says that one never knows what Spade will do or say next.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:08 PM (wzUl9)
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>>145 Honestly Ford seemed to forget how to play Solo after Empire. Or just didnt care to.
Have to throw this in, and thank you, Wolfus (looking forward to you joining us in Kentuckiana!):
Ford was told to make Han Solo a buffoon. Only way to explain him in Return of the Jedi.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:08 PM (NcvvS)
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Bogart's last movie, Harder They Fall is very good.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:09 PM (KDPiq)
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148 So this mummy walks dragging one foot but he climbed that trellis to the second floor no problem. Excellent upper body strength I suppose.
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Well, sure, he had to make up for the bum leg.
I think Fraser's claims of harassment are legit to the extent that the guy doing it said as much. Or, wait, no, he said, "Sure I grabbed his taint. It's a joke!"
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The African Queen is great, even with the insufferable Katharine Hepburn, who is actually great in the movie.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:09 PM (6p0Jv)
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Think Sahara is also on UToob now, or was as of last week.
Desert films shot just east of here in Borrego, I believe. Ironically, not that far from the actual desert training grounds Patton used for armor work.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:10 PM (U/Byj)
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What does this mean?
Posted by: Lyford at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (gb+vr)
He was blacklisted after accusing the head of the HFPA of sexual assault after the guy groped him at a luncheon.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer
Thanks very much Lyford for asking that and Jeff Weimer for answering! Was very much wondering too.
Posted by: jocon307 at December 06, 2025 09:11 PM (EuROc)
Touchstone was so sleazy. It was almost like Eisner said, "We're gonna make non-family movies," and that was the equivalent of saying "As sleazy as they can possibly be."
And I love "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House".
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:12 PM (Q+gd/)
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The Harder They Fall is a terrific Bogart picture -- nice double feature if you like grim is to catch that one back to back with Requiem for a Heavyweight with Quinn, Gleason, & Rooney.
In a Lonely Place ain't too dusty either.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:12 PM (q3u5l)
182In the past 30 years? Kiefer Sutherland, maybe. Or Tom Hardy.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025
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Sutherland impressed me in his first big role, that of the juvenile delinquent leader in Stand By Me. The moment I saw him on screen, too, I knew whose son he had to be. The same way you know whose son Miguel Ferrer is, and who sired both Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:13 PM (wzUl9)
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156 Calling it a night, all, but consider: is there an actor from the last 30 years who could do Rick Blaine in Casablanca and Charlie Allnut in African Queen? Maybe Bruce Willis in the 90s. Maybe.
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Bruce Willis is a good call. He could do the world weary Blaine, and did (demand was high)! But he had the comedy chops, and the right quirkiness to be Allnut, too, I think. It wouldn't have been the same as Bogie, of course, but it would've been watchable.
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>>Elliot Gould had a good turn with "The Long Goodbye" but mostly by NOT being Bogie. Besides being the '70s. I mention it only because the thought of Gould in that role really turned me off so much that I didn't see that movie until the 2010s.
In the past 30 years? Kiefer Sutherland, maybe. Or Tom Hardy.
moviegique, not up on Tom Hardy's work, so can't respond. Kiefer Sutherland...I'd have to think about; seen a little of his work, and could only say, maybe.
AND THIS IS HOW I STAY ON THE MOVIE THREADS!
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:14 PM (NcvvS)
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@180 I forgot that early 80s made for TV movie with Tom Hanks and Chris Makepeace from Meatballs . Don't play Dungeons and Dragons, kids!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:14 PM (6p0Jv)
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For me, Kiefer Sutherland's best role will always be in Lost Boys .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:15 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: kelly at December 06, 2025 09:16 PM (bn0S5)
189Local theater will be showing Scrooged on the 16th. We first saw it in first-run theater, large audience. The end where Murray breaks the fourth wall and addresses the theater audience works much better with a theater audience.
Posted by: mindful webworker - lives in the Cherokee Nation at December 06, 2025
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You know, I've never seen that. I have high hopes for it, as Murray seems to pick good material over some script that will just make him look good. Out of my Ten Movies I Would Change Nothing About, he's in no less than three.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:16 PM (wzUl9)
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There's talk of rebooting 24. I don't know whether Kiefer will be back or not.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:17 PM (L/fGl)
192Splash! Yes, good little movie -- or so I recall. Haven't seen it since the '80s.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:17 PM (wzUl9)
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And I, too, have no idea what the GenPub likes, because I'm a bit of a weirdo.
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Eris, I'm more comfortable making recommendations for you than I am GenPub. And it's not even close.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:19 PM (Ia/+0)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:16 PM (wzUl9)
Speaking of Murray which automatically makes you speak of Groundhog Day, anyone else see and like Palm Springs with Andy Samberg.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:19 PM (KDPiq)
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Haven't seen mention of Hanks in Splash. Been thinking it's been a long enough while we could watch that again. Hanks was okay as dumb and beleaguered, and the other comic cast members, like Candy and Levy, kept it interesting. And, of courses, yummy Daryl Hannah.
I can't imagine how bad Splash, Too must be, with neither Hanks nor Hannah. (Re TJM's latest, he should follow up with sequels we really didn't need.)
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I saw Sahara, the Bogart original, some years ago. I liked especially that his character is not an officer, but a sergeant. It fitted his look much better.
(Yes, I know that Bogart grew up in an upper-class family and often played light comedy playboy roles in his early stage work, and in the Universal flick he did with Bette Davis, Bad Sister, around 1931. But he always seemed more working class in his roles.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:21 PM (wzUl9)
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War movies will never satisfy history geeks (like me), but there is a spectrum. Band of Brothers, The Pacific, Saving Private Ryan, a few others, made serious efforts to get the big things right, and also did amazing jobs of creating the cinematic experience as close to the real thing as possible.
Then you have things like the last atrocity of the Pacific War, Midway (the recent one). A very compact, understandable true story that - if told straight, would be more compelling and dramatic and tension-filled than almost any fictional script. But, no. The sadly mediocre writers and producers cannot comprehend anything apart from dumbed-down dreck following the mediocre formula they usually follow.
Ironically, the best written and acted role in the movie was Nimitz, played by the obnoxious and dumb Woody Harrelson. He nailed it, based on everything known about CinCPac.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:22 PM (U/Byj)
203(Yes, I know that Bogart grew up in an upper-class family and often played light comedy playboy roles in his early stage work, and in the Universal flick he did with Bette Davis, Bad Sister, around 1931.
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By the way, Davis does not play the title role in Bad Sister. She herself hated the film and her performance in it . . . and I lost interest in the movie half an hour after I started it on YooToob. It being her first movie, and the fact that Universal didn't realize what they had in Bogart and Davis and let their contracts lapse, are the historical reasons to know about the flick.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:25 PM (wzUl9)
204Is this going to be the original version of Star Wars with no CGI Jabba the Hutt?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 08:02 PM
Wasn't Jabba a fat Irish guy originally?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 09:25 PM (jc0TO)
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Woody Harrelson and Matt McConaughey were great in that first season of True Detective. I appreciated them both after that one. Well done TV.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:26 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 09:26 PM (jc0TO)
207. . . Dorothy Parker said of one of her roles that she ran all the gamut of emotions from A to B; here, she covered a few more and found a couple of others. . . .
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Dottie was never slow to toss out a meow about a fellow woman.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:27 PM (wzUl9)
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There's a terrific documentary from this year called "Bogart: Life Comes In Flashes".
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (KDPiq)
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Harpo Marx was my favorite member of the Algonquin Round Table. Honk honk!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (6p0Jv)
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209 Yeah, it is supposedly no Jabba, han shoots first, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:28 PM (zZu0s)
I liked that Han shot first. Why be at a disadvantage when someone wants to kill you?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh)
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This revue is of 'normal' people. I mean, there appears to be no blood, no one is disembodied or disemboweled. Haven't finished the revue but it seems to be a warm movie that the, you know, average 'normal' person would want to see.
Way to go, moviegique. I think I'm going to try this one.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (04Glf)
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Sam Rockwell makes any movie better.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (KDPiq)
He's good.
'Mmmm, Guy.'
'Something really bad happened here.'
'I'm just a glorified extra, Fred.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (zZu0s)
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211 Harpo Marx was my favorite member of the Algonquin Round Table. Honk honk!
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:29 PM (6p0Jv)
His economic theories were much better than his cousin twice removed Karl...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh)
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Best true WWII story with a movie angle has little to do with heroics. During the Battle of the Bulge - and after Skorzeny's irregulars in US uniforms had induced panic and led to heightened security procedures - David Niven came to a US checkpoint. He worked for Monty's HQ organization.
Sentry asked him who won the latest World Series. Typical screening question when trying to ferret out imposters.
His reply, according to him but quite plausible - "I haven't the foggiest, but I was in Bachelor Mother with Ginger Rogers." Sentry had seen the movie, let him pass. Hard to beat that one.
Niven was in some real and interesting s**t during the war, never talked about it.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (U/Byj)
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198 I saw Sahara, the Bogart original, some years ago. I liked especially that his character is not an officer, but a sergeant. It fitted his look much better.”
I like that movie a lot, I think it’s one of the better WW2 movies, and I’m always surprised it’s not more well known.
It’s also notable for featuring one of the only film appearances of the M3 Lee tank. It was the main American battle tank at the outset of the war, and the army was shocked when German panzers ripped it apart like it was made out of aluminum foil. By 1943 they had all been taken out of service.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 09:31 PM (c7Ygk)
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Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (zZu0s)
He was great in Seven Psychopaths.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:31 PM (KDPiq)
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I liked that Han shot first. Why be at a disadvantage when someone wants to kill you?
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I remember being shocked. It's kind of a classic anti-save-the-cat moment.
That Bogart doc was from last year, doy.
As for Kate, I grew up with her being in these New England patrician matraiarchal (is that an oxymoron) roles that she kind of got squeezed into after "African Queen".
She had a very good range in the '30s and '40s, though.
https://moviegique.com/2024/12/november-movie-roundup/
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025
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I believe his mother was an artist or illustrator, which might have meant she was well-paid, or that her husband was high-salaried in *his* job. She, I understood, illustrated the baby on the Gerber baby food labels, leading to the rumor that the model was little Humphrey himself.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (wzUl9)
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His economic theories were much better than his cousin twice removed Karl...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh)
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And his book 'Harpo Speaks' is much more entertaining.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (6p0Jv)
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I liked that Han shot first. Why be at a disadvantage when someone wants to kill you?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 06, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh)
It said a lot about his character at that point. He murders Greedo because he knew it was him or Greedo. And he shoots him before he knows what is happening.
That's characterization.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (zZu0s)
223Ironically, the best written and acted role in the movie was Nimitz, played by the obnoxious and dumb Woody Harrelson. He nailed it, based on everything known about CinCPac.
The really odd thing about Woody Harrelson, and I still have troubled wrapping my brain around this, is that he is a great actor and very versatile. Has done pretty much every kind of role and is always very good at it. I forget I'm watching dumb and obnoxious Woody Harrelson.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2025 09:33 PM (DqJmd)
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I didn't even think Vaughn was all that bad in the van Sant remake of Psycho. Not up to Perkins maybe, but who would have been?
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JSG, I read the book not too long ago.
By Bloch's description, the perfect guy to play Norman?
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Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:32 PM (zZu0s)
Best part of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Indy shot first there too.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:34 PM (KDPiq)
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I believe his mother was an artist or illustrator, which might have meant she was well-paid, or that her husband was high-salaried in *his* job. She, I understood, illustrated the baby on the Gerber baby food labels, leading to the rumor that the model was little Humphrey himself.
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That rings a bell. The documentary covers this but it's been a year so mostly what I recall is Bogie & Bacall's relationship and that they started the Rat Pack.
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Vaughn was in the delightfully bizarre The Cell.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:35 PM (Q+gd/)
228Yeah, it is supposedly no Jabba, han shoots first, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025
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My memory from 1977 was that Jabba the Hutt is *mentioned* by the alien (Greedo?) -- we don't actually see him until Return -- and that we are certainly given the impression that Solo shoots first. As he should.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:35 PM (wzUl9)
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Staggering off to do a few things before the ONT.
Okay, I'll confess. We watched My Super Ex-Girlfriend this week. Again. The shark still is about the best part. And the two super girls fighting was actually some of the best superduper action.
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"Alien From LA"? There's an episode that doesn't get talked about much...I do enjoy it (how can I not, with Kathy Ireland as the star?!) but it's not on my list of favorites.
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I have the Vinegar Syndrome DVD. It's classic bad low-budget movie in that it's a mess of slightly off decisions (or very off, like having Ireland speak like that) and limitations of budget and marketing.
231 I believe his mother was an artist or illustrator, which might have meant she was well-paid, or that her husband was high-salaried in *his* job. She, I understood, illustrated the baby on the Gerber baby food labels, leading to the rumor that the model was little Humphrey himself.
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That rings a bell. The documentary covers this but it's been a year so mostly what I recall is Bogie & Bacall's relationship and that they started the Rat Pack.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025
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I believe Humphrey was college-educated, not sure where, and that a lot of his early stage roles, he said, consisted of him strolling on stage in whites and with a racket, saying, "Anyone for tennis?" That changed when he was cast as gangster Duke Mantee in The Petrified Forest.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:37 PM (wzUl9)
Been some time since I read Bloch's novel, but you're right re that casting. Hoffman would have been much closer to Bloch's description of Norman Bates than either Perkins or Vaughn.
Bloch did two sequels to Psycho himself, and they had nothing to do with the sequel movies. Out of print, I think, but should be fairly easy to dig up used or on interlibrary loan.
There was a hardcover omnibus years ago with all 3 of Bloch's Psycho novels, but it contained a disastrous printing error which omitted the last page of the first novel.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:38 PM (q3u5l)
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227 Vaughn was in the delightfully bizarre The Cell.
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Tarsem's breakout movie. (Tarsem Singh, but at the time just Tarsem.)
He perfected this visually arresting story-telling with "The Fall," which is all done sans CGI. And since then? Oy.
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@207 Yeah, still here - comment got eaten, I'll try again
Wolfus, you know this: Katharine Hepburn was not admired for her acting chops in her early days.
Saw Sahara several times in my youth (WGN was very fond of old flicks that they could run late at night) and loved it; there was a remake in the '90's(?) with Jim Belushi. Jim Belushi is not Humphrey Bogart.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 09:39 PM (NcvvS)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:35 PM (wzUl9)
Yeah, in the original, no Jabba.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:39 PM (zZu0s)
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Been some time since I read Bloch's novel, but you're right re that casting. Hoffman would have been much closer to Bloch's description of Norman Bates than either Perkins or Vaughn.
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And Hoffman did this kind of role really well. He could look really harmless and then turn on a dime. Alas.
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There was a hardcover omnibus years ago with all 3 of Bloch's Psycho novels, but it contained a disastrous printing error which omitted the last page of the first novel.
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Whoops! Whoopsie!
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64 I first noticed Hanks, like a lot of people did, when he was in the TV sitcom Bosom Buddies. I'd thought it would be a one-joke show, but it was written quite well and was often very funny.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 08:13 PM (wzUl9)
I first noticed Tom Hanks in Taxi. He played young Jim Ignatowski's roommate at Harvard.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 09:41 PM (0CU3H)
It's a classic Spielberg/Zemeckis joint. Much like "Who Censored Roger Rabbit," it has little to do with the source material.
And in the book? Gump is not mentally handicapped: He's a dumb-ass. The thing is a farce. Gump's best friend is an orangutan named Sue who rides on the shuttle with him.
Steve & Rob realized: Make him genuinely (pseudo) mentally handicapped, and we're in Oscar territory.
239Wolfus, you know this: Katharine Hepburn was not admired for her acting chops in her early days.
Saw Sahara several times in my youth (WGN was very fond of old flicks that they could run late at night) and loved it; there was a remake in the '90's(?) with Jim Belushi. Jim Belushi is not Humphrey Bogart.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025
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Given the right script, Belushi can convince. I'm not sure the tank sergeant would be one of those roles.
As for Kate, she had several movie flops in the Thirties and got labeled "Box Office Poison." So she went back to the stage. The story goes that she had a hit in The Philadelphia Story on Broadway. She *bought the rights,* and Hollywood had to negotiate with her -- and set her as the star -- to do the film.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:45 PM (wzUl9)
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Not sure about Scolari's character, but Hanks's was besotted with the tall Marilyn-like blonde. (The actress later married Dan Aykroyd.)
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Donna Dixon. Possibly THE main attraction of "Bosom Buddies". Although Scolari and Hanks had good chemistry and Hanks' manic comedy reactions to Dixon were pretty good.
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I believe Humphrey was college-educated, not sure where, and that a lot of his early stage roles, he said, consisted of him strolling on stage in whites and with a racket, saying, "Anyone for tennis?" That changed when he was cast as gangster Duke Mantee in The Petrified Forest.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:37 PM (wzUl9)
He went to prestigious private schools but not college. He enlisted in the Navy in 1918 because he got kicked out of school.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (KDPiq)
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his costar Peter Scolari was as talented when they were on Bosom Buddies, but he hasn't had the big-screen fortune that Hanks has.
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Dying in 2021 hasn't helped his career, either.
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Thinking of all the good flicks I need to revisit after too many years, or the ones I haven't seen yet -- and what I'm probably going to do this weekend is catch Twilight again. The one with Paul Newman, Susan Sarandon, Gene Hackman, and James Garner (who steals, effortlessly, every scene he's in). Worth a watch if you've never seen it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (q3u5l)
244 Yeah, in the original, no Jabba.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025
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So the re-release has Jabba visible -- in that saloon scene, or was it somewhere else? How did they fit that creature into an average room? He needed a *lot* of space.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (wzUl9)
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I like Brendan Fraser a lot and I wish his movie well.
246[Bogart] went to prestigious private schools but not college. He enlisted in the Navy in 1918 because he got kicked out of school.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025
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I did not know that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:49 PM (wzUl9)
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Saw Bloch on the old Tom Snyder show, Tomorrow. He based Norman Bates on Ed Gein, the serial murderer cannibal.
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:49 PM (Q+gd/)
248 Why should the Trump Admin allow Netflix to buy WB?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 09:49 PM (DJUFe)
249his costar Peter Scolari was as talented when they were on Bosom Buddies, but he hasn't had the big-screen fortune that Hanks has.
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Dying in 2021 hasn't helped his career, either.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025
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He was a regular on Bob Newhart's Vermont series, the one with the surprise ending in the last episode.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:50 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: davidt at December 06, 2025 09:51 PM (Q+gd/)
253Saw Bloch on the old Tom Snyder show, Tomorrow. He based Norman Bates on Ed Gein, the serial murderer cannibal.
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Bloch is credited with the line, when asked how he can stand to write such horrifying material: "I have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:51 PM (wzUl9)
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Hepburn wrote a book about her experience filming African Queen. She got some tropical disease and almost died, and almost the entire crew got some disease or another. She wrote that the only two who were healthy throughout were John Huston and Bogart, and in her opinion this was because the two of them never touched any water but instead hung out together and drank whiskey and gin from the moment they got up until they finally went to bed.
Their blood was probably had such a high alcohol content in their blood that no pathogen could survive there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 09:52 PM (c7Ygk)
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Confession: I NEVER liked Katherine Hepburn. Not young, not old. Not in African Queen, not in Rooster Cogburn. There is something about her that set my teeth on edge. Of the silver screen ladies, give me Lauren Bacall or ... dammit, the lady from His Girl Friday... Russell?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:52 PM (zZu0s)
256 He went to prestigious private schools but not college. He enlisted in the Navy in 1918 because he got kicked out of school.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025
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Right -- he'd have been about eighteen or nineteen then, as he was born in 1899 or 1900.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:52 PM (wzUl9)
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I didn't do Netflix after they quit DVDs. But I'm an invisible person. Not sure missing my $$$ means anything to them.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:53 PM (6p0Jv)
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I mean, we have the power, why not wield it?
We can tell obama's Netflix to go shit in their hat.
Posted by: Soothsayer
The real question is if a Judge will allow it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 09:54 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2025 09:54 PM (mP0Kj)
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How did they fit that creature into an average room? He needed a *lot* of space.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (wzUl9)
An inserted or deleted scene after Solo and Chewie leave the Cantina. In the hangar they find Jabba waiting for them. The CGI is horrible too. He's tiny vs his size in Return.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 09:55 PM (zZu0s)
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Rosalind Russell. His Girl Friday. Hubby hated that one. They tried really fast I recall. She had a smart hat, I think.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:55 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (6p0Jv)
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257 I didn't do Netflix after they quit DVDs. But I'm an invisible person. Not sure missing my $$$ means anything to them.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:53 PM (6p0Jv)
Netflix has had a couple interesting TV series...
But... wait a year? and you can stream them elsewhere.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (mP0Kj)
It's a classic Spielberg/Zemeckis joint. Much like "Who Censored Roger Rabbit," it has little to do with the source material.
And in the book? Gump is not mentally handicapped: He's a dumb-ass. The thing is a farce. Gump's best friend is an orangutan named Sue who rides on the shuttle with him.
Steve & Rob realized: Make him genuinely (pseudo) mentally handicapped, and we're in Oscar territory.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 09:42 PM (asXVI)
So....Kurt Lazarus's lecture in "Tropic Thunder" was actually 100% earnest and accurate advice?
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (Lhaco)
267 Confession: I NEVER liked Katherine Hepburn. Not young, not old. Not in African Queen, not in Rooster Cogburn. There is something about her that set my teeth on edge. Of the silver screen ladies, give me Lauren Bacall or ... dammit, the lady from His Girl Friday... Russell?
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Rosalind Russell. Yes, Kate kind of an acquired taste. I wonder what Bringing Up Baby would have been like with another comic actress playing opposite Cary Grant.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (wzUl9)
268How did they fit that creature into an average room? He needed a *lot* of space.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:47 PM (wzUl9)
An inserted or deleted scene after Solo and Chewie leave the Cantina. In the hangar they find Jabba waiting for them. The CGI is horrible too. He's tiny vs his size in Return.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025
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A mistake, dramatically. Part of the interest in the situation is, "What does this 'Jabba the Hutt' look like?" Keeping it a mystery until the third film was the right way to go.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:58 PM (wzUl9)
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If they hadn't cast Harrison Ford in Revenge of the Jedi, the tag line could've been, "Look, Ma, No Hans!"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:58 PM (L/fGl)
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>>>The really odd thing about Woody Harrelson, and I still have troubled wrapping my brain around this, is that he is a great actor and very versatile. Has done pretty much every kind of role and is always very good at it. I forget I'm watching dumb and obnoxious Woody Harrelson.
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Ed Harris doppelganger.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (04Glf)
271Many such cases! Bates, Leatherface, Buffalo Bill AND Hannibal Lechter.
The demand for serial killers FAR outpaces the supply.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025
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Time for a new, faithful movie adaptation of Ellery Queen's serial killer novel from 1949, Cat of Many Tails.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (wzUl9)
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Rosalind Russell may be one of my favorite actresses. She was brilliant in "His Girl Friday" and in "The Trouble With Angels". She unlike so many in Hollywood was married to the same man for about 45 and was also a Roman Catholic That may be why her Mother Superior role in "The Trouble with Angels " was so good- because she went to RC schools as a young person.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (7RYym)
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Confession: I NEVER liked Katherine Hepburn. Not young, not old. Not in African Queen, not in Rooster Cogburn.
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Thing is? Those are BOTH old roles. She's 44 in "African Queen"--which is way long in the tooth in 1951.
Check her out in "Little Women," "Stage Door" and "Bringing Up Baby". Oh, and she plays a pilot in one where she's quite appealing. "Christopher Strong"?
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So....Kurt Lazarus's lecture in "Tropic Thunder" was actually 100% earnest and accurate advice?
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YES! Which is why, you'll notice, we haven't HAD a mentally handicapped protagonist in a film since.
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Talked really fast
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 09:56 PM (6p0Jv)
It was a bit faster than your average Thin Man movie. But they seemed to respect the audience more back then.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 10:02 PM (zZu0s)
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202 I wrote, "Haven't seen mention of Hanks in Splash," and when I catch new comments, it's mentioned twice. Of course.
Posted by: mindful webworker - splish splash I was takin' a bath at December 06, 2025 09:25 PM (yqA/D)
Hanks is an OK actor... but... Hanks plays Hanks in different situations.
It's like John Wayne.... he is always John Wayne... or Clint Eastwood... same deal.
They are just themselves in different situations.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2025 10:03 PM (mP0Kj)
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Fast talk/overtalk was Howard Hawks' signature. Enough to where when Christopher Nyby directed his first film "The Thing From Another World," people just figured Hawks (who produced) had actually done the direction.
Thanks everybody for coming by! See you in the New Year!
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Check her out in "Little Women," "Stage Door" and "Bringing Up Baby". Oh, and she plays a pilot in one where she's quite appealing. "Christopher Strong"?
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 06, 2025 10:00 PM (asXVI)
I picked those two because they were movies I sort of liked. Hated old Lion in Winter too. Fuck Henry Finda and On Golden Pond.
Young, she is marginally less annoying.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 10:04 PM (zZu0s)
Several of us were sitting around today, doing the BS routine. Not about anything important, simply gassing, but it turned out to be totally enjoyable. One of the things was putting bets on tomorrow if anyone would deign to comment on the 84th anniversary of that momentous day at Pearl. I say yes, from the people like me who are steadfast lovers of the most exceptional country on the planet, not so much from the left side.
Any thoughts on the matter? And thank you for letting me change the subject.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (vFbHf)
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It's a little late to change the subject since we got NOODed, but I think there will be recognition of Pearl Harbor tomorrow by all the usual suspects, in all the usual ways.
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Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2025 10:16 PM (vFbHf)
Boomers and Gen Xers with an interest in history might mention it. If they do Millenials, Gen Z, and 100 million foreigners will just look confused.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 10:36 PM (R86kT)
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I rarely go to the movies anymore, not only for political reasons. Brendan Fraser is one of the few actors I still admire and happy to call myself a fan. If I see this movie on my streaming services I'll check it out.
Posted by: hadsil at December 07, 2025 10:32 AM (Xht4H)
Posted by: Random PJ at December 07, 2025 11:06 AM (RRCAT)
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Saw Rental Family in the theatre, because we saw the trailer and loved it.
Great movie. Well worth the ten bucks for tickets. (Yes, my PA theatre charges 12 for tickets, 10 for seniors; they even have a Tuesday night for 7.50 tickets).
Posted by: Lou Shumaker at December 07, 2025 11:09 AM (TJ0gw)
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"An inserted or deleted scene after Solo and Chewie leave the Cantina. In the hangar they find Jabba waiting for them."
Really? Really??? They did that???
Wow.
Loved Star Wars so much when it originally came out. Not so much, now, though I would be willing to watch the original Star Wars again...
Posted by: Lyford at December 07, 2025 04:06 PM (gb+vr)
Hobby Thread - December 6, 2025 [TRex]
Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. A spin of the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies (TM) landed on scavenging and scrounging.
Are you thinking "I'm not into scavenging and scrounging and I really don't know what that means, but I am eager to learn more. I can't wait to get into the content!" I knew it. Enjoy.
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What are you hobbying?
As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. All (legal) hobbying is welcome. However, politics, current events and religious debates can live in threads elsewhere. Pants are optional. Puns are welcome and encouraged.
Play nice. Don't be a troll and do not feed the trolls.
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Nothing like found treasure - especially as one man's trash is another's treasure. Are you a scavenger or scrounger? Do you look at piles of rubble and wonder what lurks within? Do you look at bulk garbage items left at the curbside and think how you can repurpose or restore or re-sell? Do you keep an eye on dumpsters?
Do you look for treasure? are you opportunistic? Are you a woodworker that sources materials from discarded furniture? Are you a musician that has found and restored tired instruments?
Do you haunt estate sales or auctions or seek barn finds? Do you stop by garage sales or tag sales looking for bargains? Have you ever bought the contents of an abandoned storage unit? Do you visit swap meets?
Do you live on craiglist, FB marketplace, ebay or other online marketplaces - just to see what pops up?
Do you make a hobby of buying and re-selling? Did you buy something novel with the intent to sell but just couldn't pull the trigger and let it go? Have you ever bought something that was intriguing but you didn't actually know what it was? Do you stop by local flea markets or junk sales when on holiday?
We did a bargain hunting theme in February, but let's think wider and bigger. This is more of a scavenger hunt idea - do you look for cool things and what cool things have you found (whether a bargain or not)?
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HORDE REQUEST:
Next week's Hobby Threat requires Horde participation. Next week we will honor the Christmas ornament. Please send photos of ornaments from your collection to the Hobby Thread email address. What qualifies?
Could be something sentimental, something you made as a child or an adult, something special given to you, something you picked up on your travels, something whimsical or fun, something particularly novel, something really old, something handmade, something intricate or fancy, something irreverent and cheeky, etc.
I will be very disappointed if someone does not submit an ornament made of macaroni art.
Don't worry about sending your "favorite." We all know that many ornaments are treasures for different reasons.
If there is a story behind your photo, send a brief description. I may edit or inappropriately embellish, so be warned.
Send individual photos - one ornament for each photo (unless there is a cohesive set that go together). No limit, but the humble Hobby Thread only has so much space to work with.
I'm counting on you!!
Be ready with stories next week! (not this week)
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Impressive - but amazing that someone has a YT channel dedicated to curbside and dumpster and amazing so many people watch!
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Trade-offs of scrounging:
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I looked at several YouTube videos from people that scavenge using magnets in bodies of water (called "magnet fishing"). They pull up anchors, scrap metal, locks, fishing equipment, bicycles, and more. I was hoping to find a good one for the content, but ultimately got tired of the clickbait and opted for "none of the above."
Same for videos of people dumpster diving and picking up curbside junk. Amazing.
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Finding free lumber:
Tips - but look at the tools and organization behind him!
I'm a professional scavenger making a living selling curbside garbage. This blog details my finds and sales. It also acts as an archive for things beautiful and historic that would otherwise have been destroyed.
Coins, postcards, artwork, military medals, photos, catalogs, jewelry, pottery, trophies, and more. This blog looks like a slice through history and culture.
For years I have wandered around churches on days out, and am always drawn in by the colour and imagery of church kneelers. In amongst the grey stone and deep brown of the pews they sing out. They conjure up fantastical worlds filled with everything from the local swimming club to strange mythological beasts and heraldic crests. Three years ago on a trip to St Breaca Church in Breage, Cornwall, a towering pile of kneelers caught my attention. I snapped a photograph and so an obsession was born. I began The Church Kneeler Archive, where I actively collect and archive images of kneelers. I have travelled everywhere from the depths of West Yorkshire to the tip of Land's End in my pursuit of these tiny tapestries, and along the way I have made extraordinary discoveries.
Anyone make kneelers for their church?
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Random: anyone made your own barrels? I'd love to learn how to do this someday.
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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an advent calendar theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.
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Notable comments from last week:
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Words of wisdom:
"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).
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If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute something from your personal hobbying. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)
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I guess my current hobby is making comments on the Hobby Thread and being ignored.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:32 PM (uQesX)
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Used to be called a "scavvie" if you went scrounging in jr and high school.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:33 PM (uQesX)
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Well, was going to bring up my hobby that finally got back to yesterday and this evening, scrapping lead. Made a ingot last evening from bunch of lead scraps and getting slag got a bit more our of it just before dark.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:33 PM (Ia/+0)
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Thrift stores! Estate sales! These things make me happy. Finding quality things on the. cheap. Thank you, Mr. Dino.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:34 PM (6p0Jv)
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Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I'm detailing and weathering a 1/35 Whippet and it's turning out pretty nice. Ordered a Type 1 Chi-He from a hobby store in Tokyo. I like ordering from them because they send Japanese snacks along with every order.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 06, 2025 05:34 PM (31p00)
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I got my scrounging from my grandfather, he lived through the depression raising a family so nothing got tossed away if it had potential.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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I will be very disappointed if someone does not submit an ornament made of macaroni art.
Did you forget most of us are 29, T?
I'd say most of the macaroni art we made was probably in the 60s and long since gone.
I have one or two from the 60s, but they're all stored where I'm too tired to get to anymore. The wife insists on newer ornaments on the tree. Does a darn good job of decorating it, though.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:38 PM (uQesX)
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Well, was going to bring up my hobby that finally got back to yesterday and this evening, scrapping lead. Made a ingot last evening from bunch of lead scraps and getting slag got a bit more our of it just before dark.
Posted by: Skip
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I have a bucket of lead scraps behind the shop. Mr. Scary says maybe one day he will cast some bullets. I'm guessing one day will be never.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:38 PM (6p0Jv)
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Got a feeling people are untangling Christmas lights today.
Those things can be frustrating. Hanging them on the eve of a house is not fun either.
Posted by: Case at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (5Je/N)
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I got my scrounging from my grandfather, he lived through the depression raising a family so nothing got tossed away if it had potential.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:36 PM (Ia/+0)
My Dad was Silent Generation, raised by Depression-era parents. One of my chores as a kid was straightening nails he had pulled from various things. We grew up in a frugal family, to say the least. Mom would re-use ziploc bags if they had previously stored something dry.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (0aYVJ)
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https://tinyurl.com/yc6fp6a3
Missed this as happened on Sunday, the family tradition to make Christmas grave wreaths for passed family members.
4 of us made 16 wreaths.
This is a very long tradition, hope it continues
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (Ia/+0)
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I remember making macaroni art and a matchstick cross at Vacation Bible School in the mid 70s.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:40 PM (6p0Jv)
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I don't scrounge anymore either Orange Ent. I never had the knowledge to really find treasures at thrift stores and the like but in college and early working days they were my go to for filling the wardrobe and decorating. The last few years have been collecting things that are still good that I or my parents had acquired that were not being used and getting them to a thrift store.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:41 PM (hhkIi)
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Cannot do the scrounging.
I find I hold onto things for no reason at all.
Then I go into a wild cleaning phase where I will trash what I have accumulated.
When I finally move from this apartment I want to take as little as possible with me.
So as it stands my hobbies are golf, shooting. Scuba diving is no longer viable.
I do hope to add travel as a hobby in the near future. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (PxkKd)
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I no longer have any macaroni art from my childhood.
I did find the Christmas stocking knitted for me by my grandmother.
It has my name and my birth year among other features.
I have a couple of other hand-made Christmas stockings but that one is by far my favorite because it's so personal.
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My lead scavenger started to make bullets but my job sometimes its a bonanza. I have to have over 400 pounds of lead here.
Pure lead not from contaminated can be worth a bit
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:45 PM (Ia/+0)
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Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:41 PM (hhkIi)
Yeah. Pale. Unless you have the knowledge of the value of so many things, you can pass up something worth real money. I occasionally watch a scrounger type show on Roku where people have all this expensive stuff in their garages or barns.
At my age, I'm more into getting rid of things instead of acquiring more stuff my family has to get rid of when the time comes.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:45 PM (uQesX)
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12. I still do that with ziplock bags. Not all the time but fairly often. Frugal family and then it was 'save the environment' in school so it just feels wrong to toss the clean ziplock or not re-use the sturdy plastic bottles from Pure Leaf tea etc with water from home instead of buying a fancy water bottle or buying bottled water routinely.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:46 PM (hhkIi)
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As long as you don't put food in the bags, I see no reason not to reuse ziplocks instead of buying new ones if they're in good condition.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:47 PM (uQesX)
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I actually still have a ceramic mug I made back in junior high. Never drank from it.
Currently it is on a shelf with a golf ball and other knick knacks in it.
Also a small wooden box made in shop class. That too was made in junior high.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (PxkKd)
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""Are you a woodworker that sources materials from discarded furniture? Are you a musician that has found and restored tired instruments? ""
Both.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (snZF9)
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I'm trying to use up all the stuff I've scavenged, Scrounged or hoarded. It will probably take the rest of my life even if I don't get anything else.
On a different hobby topic; Where Winds Meet is a new (to the US) free to play game on Steam. I have created a guild in game for the Horde, if anyone is interested. It's called AoSHQHorde and, my toon is named Nissanna. Feel free to message me in game or here to join.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (lFFaq)
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I used to go too all the hamfests I could and buy parts in the flea market. Now I have a garage full of junk that I'm starting to throw away.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 05:50 PM (pkeXY)
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Also a small wooden box made in shop class. That too was made in junior high.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 05:49 PM (PxkKd)
Oh no! Not a wooden box!!
https://tinyurl.com/yhwam7n6
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:51 PM (uQesX)
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When I was in graduate school prime scavenging locations were the dumpsters outside student housing areas at the end of the month (moving day) especially at the end of the semester. The secret underground student economy was a thing, and it was considered good manners to leave any furniture that was functional but not a part of *your* life any more outside the dumpster so it could find a new home. I still have two very sturdy chairs I saved from the grad school dumpster ...
(ooh, I got a Notable Comment! First time for everything!)
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (CidsT)
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""Do you haunt estate sales or auctions or seek barn finds? Do you stop by garage sales or tag sales looking for bargains? Have you ever bought the contents of an abandoned storage unit? Do you visit swap meets?""
I used to do motorcycle swap meets for rare harley parts, and these days its all mostly junk, so I rarely do that anymore.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (snZF9)
29 Mom would re-use ziploc bags if they had previously stored something dry.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide
My mom washed them out and kept them. So do I.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (pkeXY)
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My Granddad was a Dumpster Diver. He liked to put together bicycles for kids who didn't have one. He also liked putting together lawnmowers from parts he'd find.
He was a Depression kid and WWII veteran of the China Burma India theater. He saw terrible things and never spoke of them. He was kind and jolly. It made him happy to recycle things to help someone else. He was a great man. I miss you, PaPaw.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:55 PM (6p0Jv)
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Since I'm not Catholic/High Church I had no idea kneelers were still worked by individuals and not just covered in mass-produced fabric.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 06, 2025 05:55 PM (lFFaq)
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Curbside scavenger sounds like a lot 0f crackheads I've met.
Posted by: Eromero at December 06, 2025 05:57 PM (LHPAg)
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Anyone who reloads their ammunition will be a scrounger. Used brass at the range nobody picked up is the usual. I'm not above looking through the trash barrel at the range. I have a trash barrel of old style lead wheel weights, probably a few hundred pounds, that I melt down to make cast bullets. An old heavy pot, found at the curb, can be used to melt lead. I have a small electric furnace to do that but have heard of people using old Coleman stoves to do the melting.
Part of the fun of reloading ammo is to make a game of doing it for the least cost without skimping on safety. Some creative scrounging is standard.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 05:58 PM (yTvNw)
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>>>I used the 3D printer to make the Nakatomi plaza Advent calendar.
As you pull each day, Hans Gruber falls one more floor. She loved it.
Posted by: Chappyman66 at November 29, 2025 06:01 PM (boKcN)
This is so great!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:59 PM (RuTUS)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:51 PM
LOL LOL Damn that was funny!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 06:00 PM (PxkKd)
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Thrift stores! Estate sales! These things make me happy. Finding quality things on the. cheap. Thank you, Mr. Dino.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
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Oh, I couldn't agree more. I can spend hours just wandering among the stalls looking at all the "treasures." Some have even come home with me!
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Missed this as happened on Sunday, the family tradition to make Christmas grave wreaths for passed family members.
4 of us made 16 wreaths.
This is a very long tradition, hope it continues
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM (Ia/+0)
Wonderful, Skip!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:03 PM (RuTUS)
38 I was expecting either i) toy train sets, or ii) bamboo.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 06:04 PM (KJCdi)
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I spent a good part of the day prepping for my main winter hobby; I got my snowboarding gear out, gave everything a good test-fitting, and filling the pockets with the appropriate emergency or back-up gear. Tomorrow I actually go snowboarding. Still not a whole lot of snow on the local mountain, so it may be short day if the runs aren't any good. But, still, it's important to get on the mountain and at least work the rarely-used muscles...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 06, 2025 06:05 PM (Lhaco)
40Anyone who reloads their ammunition will be a scrounger. Used brass at the range nobody picked up is the usual.
Ya gotta be careful with range brass. If you accidentally pick up a caliber you don't reload, you're now obligated to buy the dies and a rifle and start reloading it.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 06, 2025 06:06 PM (3nLb4)
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Always sadly, 1 wreath is for my cousin who died when she was barely not 16yo in a car accident right around Christmas.
She would have been 50 this year
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:07 PM (Ia/+0)
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I was expecting either i) toy train sets, or ii) bamboo.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 06:04 PM
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Bamboo?
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29 years ago went to a sale at UC Berkeley. Lots of sciency stuff. Guy was buying an electron microscope. Said he was going to make one helluva mouse trap!
ZZZZAP!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 06:09 PM (Kt19C)
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My uncle Tony worked for NYC Sanitation and brought home all kinds of treasures.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:10 PM (sF9Ts)
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The one thing I did always try to seek out is old vacuum tubes. Ones from the 40's, 50's or 60's. I used to try to find old wrecked radios, TVs, or anything that used them. Either 12ax7 preamp tubes, or 6v6, 6L6, or EL34 power tubes. Vintage tubes are great in guitar amps.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 06:11 PM (snZF9)
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Bamboo?
Posted by: TRex - topic research dino at December 06, 2025 06:09 PM (ITBpd)
Pro tip, T: go for the Big Bamboo.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:11 PM (uQesX)
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Those kneelers are needlepoint. A task baked in patience. I made one needlepoint piece in my life - for my brother. When I gave it to him I informed him he would have the ONLY piece of needlepoint I would ever make, lol. I've only ever seen those kind of kneelers in old historic Southern churches....beautiful pieces that have lasted the ages....
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When I did more woodworking, I would scrounge any wood I could. I have a couple of hunks of tree trunk I use as a hammering spot. I collected some fruit wood branches, left at the curb, to make walking sticks and trivets. Fruit wood is hard but can be worked with sharp hand tools. You can do a lot of shaping with rasps and files. I used to haunt garage sales for old hand tools that could often be restored with a little effort. Probably saved a few hundred dollars over the years doing that.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:13 PM (yTvNw)
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I have a gold pocket watch, with gold chain, circa 1885, from family long ago.
There are other family heirlooms. Nobody cares.
Seriously valuable stuff.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 06:13 PM (NwnyJ)
5025 I used to go too all the hamfests I could and buy parts in the flea market. Now I have a garage full of junk that I'm starting to throw away.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
I'm searching for a reasonably priced vacuum variable capacitor for 20-10M mag loop project.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 06, 2025 06:14 PM (abIsI)
At a campout guy had euro bike parts. Bought a beautiful streamline headlight nacelle dirt cheap. Resold it cheap within an hour to a welcome buyer.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 06:14 PM (Kt19C)
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I inherited a pocket watch. It is missing the crystal and one hand. I took it to the jewelers for repairs. They sent it out and it sat there for three months, untouched. I finally got it back. Still should be repaired as it seems to run.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 06:15 PM (+mUZM)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 05:51 PM
LOL LOL Damn that was funny!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 06, 2025 06:00 PM (PxkKd)
hahahahaha good ones
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:15 PM (RuTUS)
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Mrs. Mahon is getting back into cross-stitching, after a lengthy battle with Lyme disease. She is very happy about the muscle memory recall.
Last winter she could barely walk without a cane. Her recovery has been remarkable.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 06, 2025 06:15 PM (0aYVJ)
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Pug, that is wonderful news. Hoping her recovery continues. And cross-stitching is my main happy place, just calms me. I have two more ornaments to finish before Christmas...
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40 ... "Ya gotta be careful with range brass. If you accidentally pick up a caliber you don't reload, you're now obligated to buy the dies and a rifle and start reloading it."
I avoided that temptation, sometimes just barely. Since I have to sort the cases anyway, I just put the calibers I don't use aside and offer them to folks who do use them. Met some nice people doing that.
I don't do this myself but some brass can be reformed, especially the case neck, into a different caliber.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:19 PM (yTvNw)
5745 The one thing I did always try to seek out is old vacuum tubes. Ones from the 40's, 50's or 60's. I used to try to find old wrecked radios, TVs, or anything that used them. Either 12ax7 preamp tubes, or 6v6, 6L6, or EL34 power tubes. Vintage tubes are great in guitar amps.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
I have an even dozen NIB 811 RCA tubes for my HF amplifier. I purchased the whole set about 15 years ago
from some old guy that listed them on Craigslist. They were cheaply priced.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 06, 2025 06:19 PM (abIsI)
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I was waiting for the hobby thread to post this (thought some of you may have seen it already).
Guy made a massive Christmas Village and Train display.
https://youtu.be/ag3AFwavnMk
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 06, 2025 06:31 PM (OGOaV)
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Anyone try melting down the brass and re-using the raw material for something else?
Posted by: TRex - brassy dino at December 06, 2025 06:26 PM (ITBpd)
I have more brass and lead than I'll ever need. Don't know what to do with it.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:33 PM (uQesX)
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Kneelers? I have always had kneeler pads, but they are built in to the pews.
Is this a Protestant thing?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 06:34 PM (zZu0s)
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13 the family tradition to make Christmas grave wreaths for passed family members. 4 of us made 16 wreaths.
This is a very long tradition, hope it continues
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:39 PM
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Nice tradition Skip. Thanks for sharing.
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I have lots of brass scrap as well. Constantly watch videos on people making objects with brass.
A sword would be neat to make, but smaller objects as well.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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This is my 'round to it scavengering. I save wood from old furniture, strip copper out of defunct engines and wires , cut and save unusual shapes of wood out of trees and strands of horse tail hair for braiding.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 06:37 PM (sDNVV)
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I do lead out in my fire pit with a grate supported by blocks around the pit. But think brass would need a bit higher temperature and a kiln
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:38 PM (Ia/+0)
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I am getting rid of most of what I accumulated through estate sales and curb pickups.
Beautiful wood (walnut and birch, some cedar), table saw, hand tools.
The only thing I use routinely now is a power supply from an estate sale that runs my slot car track.
Posted by: Chappyman66 at December 06, 2025 06:39 PM (GwqYh)
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I used to embarrass my kids by hauling stuff out of people's trash.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 06:39 PM (0nHVk)
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Hording is just an element of all my other hobbies. I horde until I have a complete project then I forget about it and horde some more stuff until...
It's all about having stuff to do when and if I retire.
Posted by: Reforger at December 06, 2025 06:41 PM (03GBw)
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C-class solar flare(not CME - my mistake) M 8.1 duration 20 minutes. 20:39 UTC today.
Anyway, to the hobby - trying to play a few tunes with a guitar tuned down a whole step like Leon Redbone used to to...makes the strings on this Takamine Santa Fe a little loose and ringy...nice to sing, though. Tunes fit for a baritone.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:42 PM (vd6bO)
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Did not realize how big a thing scrounging was until I settled in Florida. People put stuff on their curb and advertise it on Facebook Marketplace as free stuff.
The ex was addicted to thrift stores, so now I tend to avoid accumulating stuff. My general rule is, once it's in your house, you'll at some point need to figure how to get it out of your house...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 06:42 PM (nbLIj)
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Folks who shoot traditional black powder guns (not the cursed modern inline stuff) tend to be scroungers. Old felt hats are stamped out to make wads for revolvers and for black powder cartridges. Cloth from end of rolls at fabric stores, often given away or at a huge discount, can be made into shooting or cleaning patches, heavier cloth into shooting bags and other cloth accessories. Percussion caps can be made from aluminum soda cans and toy caps. Pure lead for round balls can be found in scrap piles of old plumbing pipes and old style window weights. Metal containers like Altoid boxes get turned into fire starting kits, little tool and implement tins. Pure cotton, heavy stuff, can be made into charcloth using a grill and tight tin can.
So many possibilities for scrounging and improvising.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:43 PM (yTvNw)
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I guess my current hobby is making comments on the Hobby Thread and being ignored.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
And you are very good at it!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:43 PM (z/7Ah)
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And you are very good at it!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:43 PM (z/7Ah)
Sorta slacking at it this week. I've been noticed a couple times.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 06:46 PM (uQesX)
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66 Guy made a massive Christmas Village and Train display.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 06, 2025 06:31 PM
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Wow. That's impressive! Thanks for posting!
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I have a short box trailer here filled with stuff for projects.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 06:47 PM (sDNVV)
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Anyway, to the hobby - trying to play a few tunes with a guitar tuned down a whole step like Leon Redbone used to to...makes the strings on this Takamine Santa Fe a little loose and ringy...nice to sing, though. Tunes fit for a baritone.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:42 PM (vd6bO)
Welcome to my life. Frigging metalheads never tune to E standard anymore, some do, but now we got E flat, D, C#, C, and some even B. Technically the guitar needs to be set up for the key its tuned to. The string gauge needs to be heavier, the truss rod needs to be adjusted, etc. I have a rack that holds 7 guitars next to me because of all the frigging tunnings, and they're not my good ones because I'm not putting them through that crap.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 06:47 PM (snZF9)
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I have lots of brass scrap as well. Constantly watch videos on people making objects with brass.
A sword would be neat to make, but smaller objects as well.
Posted by: Skip
BIL, no not that one. A different one! Thi one cast a big brass skull. it is really well done.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:48 PM (z/7Ah)
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When we moved last winter, we had to be very harsh about getting rid of all the stuff that we accumulated over the 20-plus years we lived in our house. Even after The Cull, we have a storage unit crammed with stuff in our new town.
We had a garage sale, which helped. But I ask, why did we have six TVs? Sons joked that we lived in a sports bar. We now have two, which is less crazy.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 06, 2025 06:48 PM (0aYVJ)
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63 ... "Anyone try melting down the brass and re-using the raw material for something else?"
Lead for bullets can be melted on a campfire or over a camp stove. Brass melts at around 1,700 degrees F, IIRC. Never heard of a hobbyist reloader melting down brass cases.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:49 PM (yTvNw)
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I scrounged some steel angle and some lag bolts today.
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Sorta slacking at it this week. I've been noticed a couple times.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
Take heart, I'm sure we'll all start ignoring you again soon!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:50 PM (z/7Ah)
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once it's in your house, you'll at some point need to figure how to get it out of your house...
Used to date her
.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 06:50 PM (Kt19C)
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I picked up a real cute little kitchen setup from someone's trash, I was going to fix it all up for my grandkids to play with when they visit, unfortunately I had it sitting next to the garage when the big tree fell on it back in October. I have since burned it in the fireplace.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 06:51 PM (0nHVk)
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I have since burned it in the fireplace.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
Definitely up scaled it!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 06:53 PM (z/7Ah)
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I was waiting for the hobby thread to post this (thought some of you may have seen it already).
Guy made a massive Christmas Village and Train display.
https://youtu.be/ag3AFwavnMk
Posted by: No One of Consequence
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Thanks for sharing this. What a collection! Love the views from the camera on the front of the train, and the night shots. And yes, my collection started as 3 village pieces back in the day, and then grew - but not anywhere near the size of theirs. And a third was donated when we were moving cross country. Does he really take that down and then reassemble it every year?
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Lead is only about 750°f to melt. We would drop shot anywhere between 760 and 810 depending on size. Any higher some trace element , I forget which, level goes haywire. Antimony I think.
Posted by: Reforger at December 06, 2025 06:55 PM (03GBw)
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, and they're not my good ones because I'm not putting them through that crap.
_-_
Howls! I have a few I keep out...one archtop, a 2000's vintage Recording King, an Epiphone J45, the l'il Takamine, and a banjo.
The Takamine has led a very rough life, so it is the one that gets the de-tune assignments.
Downside to having them all out realized last night. The teenage son who does not realize how big he is tried to wrestle me to the floor yesterday. Landed on the guitar rack and collapsed it. Oddly enough, not a scratch on any of them...only damage seemed to be that the cookie the big boy was holding seemed to be in pieces inside the Epiphone....easier to get out than a pick, though.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (vd6bO)
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My favorite was a comment made by a workman who said his grandfather had a shoebox on which he had written "string too short to save," filled with, yup, exactly what he described.
Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (PkCdJ)
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As my tendonitis recedes I'm going to start some small simple whittling projects to get back some hand strength. Probably ball in a cage, 'five minute' wizard or owl (takes me longer), or comfort birds. Basswood all the way. Might as well use a hobby as minor physical therapy.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (yTvNw)
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90 I picked up a real cute little kitchen setup from someone's trash, I was going to fix it all up for my grandkids to play with when they visit, unfortunately I had it sitting next to the garage when the big tree fell on it back in October. I have since burned it in the fireplace.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
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Inadvertently repurposed toys into Lincoln logs? That is a win-win.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (6p0Jv)
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Might as well use a hobby as minor physical therapy.
Posted by: JTB
That sounds like a great idea.
Purchase Band-Aids first!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (z/7Ah)
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Thanks for the interesting and informative Scrounging Hobby Thread, T-Rex!
I have reached the stage where I really need to evaluate what to keep and what treasures to bless someone else with. Mostly blessing others with my treasures which are no longer needed or used.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (kB9dk)
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My housemate is an artist and wants to sell some of her scratchboard works for Christmas money. https://tinyurl.com/2aedc8nu link goes to facebook.
I had to search online to get some idea of what scratchboard art went for, the 11x14 size which is what she has seems to be around 400 dollars at the etsy links that came up.
I'm wishing I was farther ahead on my decluttering, I think these are great, but its always "but where would I hang it?"
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 07:01 PM (hhkIi)
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AZ deplorable moron, good to see you, please say hi to your lovely Missus for me. Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 07:02 PM (0nHVk)
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Looking at some empty Balvenie bottles. A string soaked in gasoline tied around the bottle and ignited then doused in water will give you a clean cut on the glass.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:03 PM (sDNVV)
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Yellow brass melts 1650- 1720 F
Videos I watch use a kiln and gas fired
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (Ia/+0)
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"My favorite was a comment made by a workman who said his grandfather had a shoebox on which he had written "string too short to save," filled with, yup, exactly what he described.
Posted by: Wenda"
I have a box full of springs labeled "Springs". Then I have another box of springs labeled "More Springs".
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (vFG9F)
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say hi to your lovely Missus for me. Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
Thank you!
I will!
And I thought the same when I saw DDS!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (z/7Ah)
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That is wonderful news about Mrs. Mahon's recovery from Lyme disease. She must be thrilled.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (yTvNw)
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Downside to having them all out realized last night. The teenage son who does not realize how big he is tried to wrestle me to the floor yesterday. Landed on the guitar rack and collapsed it. Oddly enough, not a scratch on any of them...only damage seemed to be that the cookie the big boy was holding seemed to be in pieces inside the Epiphone....easier to get out than a pick, though.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 06:59 PM (vd6bO)
Yup, dodged a bullet there. Nothing expensive goes in my rack. The last thing I need is Mrs B knocking them over like a leg lamp. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (snZF9)
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I still have, and often find a screw or bolt my grandfather collected in cans. And if you need say 4, and find 1 then there are 3 others just like it in that can
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (Ia/+0)
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>>My uncle Tony worked for NYC Sanitation and brought home all kinds of treasures.
There's a woman here in town that runs a dog walking/sitting business. Her husband works for the local rubbish service. They have a room in their house where the 4 legged visitors stay and its furnished with furniture he finds people throwing away.
Dogs live large in that house.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (viF8m)
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I did acquire a nice sofa today that folds out to a full size bed for Little. 40 bucks and it looked like it just came out of the showroom. He and I hit the Waffle House on the way down. Waitress had a nose ring, but was absolutely effervescent. I was conflicted...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (nbLIj)
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It took my wife and I quite a few years to mostly break the scrounging habit. When we were younger, broke and raising the kids, something on the curb with a "Free" sign was a red flag. Yes, we found some good and useful stuff.
Best find I ever came across was a Dual Reference turntable, perfect condition, in a thrift store for $4.95 . Still use it.
Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 06, 2025 07:09 PM (yNfcm)
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I have a box full of springs labeled "Springs". Then I have another box of springs labeled "More Springs".
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (vFG9F)
I got box full of old harley valve springs. I keep meaning to go through them one day and put them on a tester to check them out and make matched sets to weed out the weak ones. In reality, that probably won't get done before colander face mask world happens and they'll be repurposed for other shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 07:10 PM (snZF9)
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I have a box full of springs labeled "Springs". Then I have another box of springs labeled "More Springs".
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:04 PM (vFG9F)
NO SPRINGS!!! HA HA HA HA!
Posted by: Coily at December 06, 2025 07:10 PM (0aYVJ)
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98 ... "That sounds like a great idea.
Purchase Band-Aids first!"
Trust me. With my big hands and small whittling projects, band-aids are always nearby. Plus I use a kevlar carving glove to hold the wood and a thumb pad on the knife hand. I haven't cut my knife hand. Yet.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 07:11 PM (yTvNw)
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Cleaned-out the father-in-law's garage when he passed...in addition to his own stuff, he woulld retrieve things from the dumpster that the neighbors threw away that he thought they might actually need later. Each thing...and the garage was very, very full of the things, had a piece of scrap paper with the retrieval date witten on it in pencil.
I was new to their family, so I got the job of cleaning it out. Nobody else wanted to, since you never know what kind of stuff that belongs to a family member has memories that matter attached to it.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:11 PM (vd6bO)
I've been meaning to acquire one, but don't want cheap chinese junk. So I occasionally look at ebay. These things were cheap & plentiful when we were kids, yes?
Didn't Coleman make some?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:13 PM (xTbNp)
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Sorry to be less visible tonight. Interweb connection is unstable at best. Just wanted to say hello and thank everyone in case it becomes unpossible later.
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My hobby is MST3K references. The Master would not be pleased.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 07:14 PM (6p0Jv)
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We moved here 4.5 years ago. I filled two 3rolling garbage bins With stuff collected over the previous 3 houses. I was lucky the bins rolled...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:15 PM (z/7Ah)
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"I keep meaning to go through them one day and put them on a tester to check them out and make matched sets to weed out the weak ones. In reality, that probably won't get done before colander face mask world happens and they'll be repurposed for other shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division"
That's kind of my philosophy. I'll sort them if I need them. Life is too short to spend sorting springs.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:15 PM (vFG9F)
122 a jackknife
a compass
a piece of Bazooka gum, or just the wrapper from a piece
When did these things stop being "essential" to us?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:16 PM (xTbNp)
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:16 PM (vFG9F)
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"My hobby is MST3K references. The Master would not be pleased.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary"
You would love my ringtone. It's Krankor laughing.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
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My mother used to sew/knit/crochet/make dolls, etc. She never seemed to make just one of anything, usually aiming for 20-50 in quantity. When we cleaned out that place, we thought we were done with the craft supplies after emptying the house, but as any good redneck can tell you, junk cars make for good storage...most of them were actually rat/mouse-proof. Not all, though. Fun.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:18 PM (vd6bO)
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a piece of Bazooka gum, or just the wrapper from a piece
When did these things stop being "essential" to us?
Posted by: Soothsayer
I know, right!
In corps school we were taught how to use the clear wrapper off a pack of cigarettes on a sucking chest wound!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:19 PM (z/7Ah)
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That no springs video is so silly it's unforgettable
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:19 PM (Ia/+0)
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"My hobby is MST3K references. The Master would not be pleased.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary"
You would love my ringtone. It's Krankor laughing.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F)
MST3k is my version of the 3 Stooges. I never get tired of it. The missus, however, does. A lot of sighing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:21 PM (0aYVJ)
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A lot of sighing
_-_
That's a good woman right there....some get to throwing things after a spell.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vd6bO)
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Mrs fd absolutely does not get MST3K. I wonder sometimes if she gets me.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vFG9F)
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Mrs fd absolutely does not get MST3K. I wonder sometimes if she gets me.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vFG9F)
Sometimes she'll quote something from MST, the Simpsons (the old ones), or Monty Python. And then she'll pause, and say, "what have you and the boys done to me?"
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:27 PM (0aYVJ)
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I have Manos: The Hands of Fate and Santa Claus Comquers the Martians on DVD. It is a Christmas favorite in the Scary household
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (6p0Jv)
133 There's always a running loop-stream of MST3K episodes on Youtube. I've often piped it through the bluetooth and listen during my commutes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (DJUFe)
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ft, spring-collecting is even funnier than string-collecting!
My own personal coup was a Louis Vuitton trunk that a neighbor put out as garbage. Spotted it on my morning run, which turned into a morning sprint home so I could get the car and go back for it!
Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (PkCdJ)
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I want to get the Torgo theme music for my phone.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (0aYVJ)
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133 There's always a running loop-stream of MST3K episodes on Youtube. I've often piped it through the bluetooth and listen during my commutes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 07:28 PM (DJUFe)
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PlutoTV has an MST3K channel (and a RiffTrax channel as well)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 06, 2025 07:30 PM (OGOaV)
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One last, and pleasant, thought. We put a twin bed in good condition on the curb. In a half hour a young mother stopped and asked if it was for sale. When told it was free she lit up. Her older boy, perhaps seven, was going to get his OWN BED. She almost had tears in her eyes. Knowing something we didn't need could be so appreciated was hugely satisfying.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 07:31 PM (yTvNw)
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Pluto TV has channels for MST and Rifftrax. But, they seem to play the same ones for a long time before adding any more. And sometimes they feature the new MST, which is garbage (por ejemplo: Patton Oswalt) Blech. Very blech.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:32 PM (0aYVJ)
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Mid 1980's my recently retired late father is taking his daily walk around his then sparsely populated Florida neighborhood and finds maybe 10 sheets of high quality 4 X 8 plywood on the side of the road. He comes back with his truck and as he's loading his plywood up comes a county sheriff, a lady deputy. She asks what he's doing, he tells her 'I found it'. She helps him load it into his truck and follows him to the sheriffs station.
They held it for 30, maybe 60 days. He'd go every week to make sure it was covered and undamaged. No one claimed it so they released it to him.
He built a nice storage shed with it.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 07:32 PM (QGaXH)
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He and I hit the Waffle House on the way down. Waitress had a nose ring, but was absolutely effervescent. I was conflicted...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 07:06 PM (nbLIj)
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Some years ago I was in the hospital for a couple of days and a new night nurse walks in...spiked bright white hair, tattoos up and down both arms and an eyebrow piercing. I groaned internally but she turned out to be the absolute best nurse I've ever had.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 06, 2025 07:33 PM (3ImbR)
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I was new to their family, so I got the job of cleaning it out. Nobody else wanted to, since you never know what kind of stuff that belongs to a family member has memories that matter attached to it.
Posted by: Don in SoCo
When the old lady next to me died (old man nice but passed years before) I had to check out the estate sale. Almost nothing of value. She purged all the man stuff over the few years since he passed, all that was left was a dilapidated house full of china dolls.
Before the estate sale they haul off two construction dumpsters full of the even more worthless garbage. Guy that bought the house as-js hauled off three more.
People running the estate said the good stuff was sold on line weeks ago. But they have to have the home estate sale with the leftovers. After a couple hours they were basically telling everybody. "Make any offer and it is yours."
Yup, all that shit I wasted money on is going to the dump when I die.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 06, 2025 07:34 PM (/lPRQ)
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Yeah, I am a scavenger. I don't prowl the curbsides, because I rarely see heaps of stuff. Used to routinely scavenge the metal pile and the tire pile at the local dump, until they banned scavenging. Once in a while, I will see something really worthwhile there, I will ask the attendant if I can snag it, and usually he's OK with it. On the tire pile, I will come in with some totally rotten tires, and frequently leave with one or two "rollers" to put under inoperable cars.
If I scrap something, I try to separate out the valuable metal scrap, and trash the worthless stuff.
BTW, does anybody here know if scrap pot metal, (aka Zamak, or die-cast, or "white metal") can be melted down and cast into ingots, or something useful?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 07:34 PM (npFr7)
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130 Mrs fd absolutely does not get MST3K. I wonder sometimes if she gets me.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:23 PM (vFG9F)
She doesn't have to get your taste, so long as she gets you in all the right places, dear.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 07:36 PM (6Bc88)
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Happy to see so many MST3K fans here. One of my favs, and a holiday tradition here.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 06, 2025 07:36 PM (3ImbR)
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An after the sale 'garage sale had a large steel shed full of tools and 'metal'. I did buy anything , they priced it all like new.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 06, 2025 07:37 PM (z/7Ah)
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The end of the school year in Madison WI is also known as "hippy Christmas." All the furniture and other items left on the curb are free to passers by. Makes for a damned mess of traffic downtown but nothing ends up in the landfill.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 07:37 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: Eromero at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (LHPAg)
Good cross bow bolts.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 07:42 PM (snZF9)
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One person's junk is another person's treasure.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:42 PM (sDNVV)
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Happy to see so many MST3K fans here. One of my favs, and a holiday tradition here.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 06, 2025 07:36 PM (3ImbR)
Rifftrax does a Yule Log episode, featuring Kevin's fireplace, a little TV and a speaker. the interrupt the fir to play snippets of numerous Christmas themed shorts. You can find that on Pluto TV.
Posted by: Pug Mahon Knows Stuff at December 06, 2025 07:46 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 07:49 PM (pkeXY)
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BTW, does anybody here know if scrap pot metal, (aka Zamak, or die-cast, or "white metal") can be melted down and cast into ingots, or something useful?
_-_
Never tried, but seems like you could do that and wax-cast it into something...jacks....the legos of the 20th century (for your bare feet).
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:52 PM (vd6bO)
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Solar flare mentioned earlier is starting to cause some excitement.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:53 PM (vd6bO)
159 My brother works at a landfill in NC. He is amazed how much good stuff people bring in. He's a good Ole country boy who will talk to any9ne so he always asks people why they are trashing stuff.
The main reason is people are cleaning out relatives houses and they don't want the hassle of trying to sell the stuff.
One young couple had boxes of antique toys. He loaded them in his truck and auctioned them off for hundreds of dollars.
Wrought iron outside furniture is another frequently dumped item. He has sold a lot of that also.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (3ek7K)
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TRex, thank you for another great hobby thread
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:54 PM (sDNVV)
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My brother works at a landfill in NC. He is amazed how much good stuff people bring in.
_-_
One of my grandfathers bought by the truckload from a fella who ran the local dump - set up a shop downtown to resell the stuff..Dad always joked that we should get rid of anything we didn't want to see again at a different dump or Mom might buy it back.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (vd6bO)
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Solar flare mentioned earlier is starting to cause some excitement.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 07:53 PM (vd6bO)
About an hour ago, I was browning some hamburger in the skillet to make a pot of chili. While that went on, I fired up the Zenith Transoceanic, and was getting good activity on all bands, even 16 meters. (So I have a good 1L6 in there!) I think this radio should have the selenium rectifier replaced. I was thinking full-wave diode bridge, and maybe a choke-input filter, to get real low-ripple DC. From my on-line reading you want 1.4 volts to the 1L6 filament, and no more.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 08:00 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 06, 2025 08:01 PM (3ek7K)
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And I am going to go clean up my radio bench, speaking of hobby-related. It's damned cold here, will go below zero tonight for sure. It was only 2 degrees F this afternoon when I took my trash to the dump.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 08:03 PM (npFr7)
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150 tcn, did you feel the earthquake?
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:41 PM (vFG9F)
No. It was down near Yakutat. About 400 miles east of here.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:03 PM (6Bc88)
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We are having a wind storm, gusts into the 90 mph range in Palmer, not nearly so bad at our place. Wasilla is taking a beating. Roofs torn off, RVs tipped, wings ripped of light planes, trees down all over and of course the ice from last week making things just delightful for travel.
We are staying in, thanks.
Haven't lost power but I have the wood stove burning just in case.
Supposed to keep doing this through Monday. Ack.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:05 PM (6Bc88)
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Luckily the Tug Bar posted that they are open for business, so in an emergency...
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 08:06 PM (6Bc88)
We got windy Thursday evening. Supposed to get seriously wet tomorrow through Wednesday.
It’s always nice when the ground gets saturated and the wind kicks up.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 06, 2025 08:08 PM (mT+6a)
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Hopefully not late enough to get myself banned from the blog. Cracked open a TRS Challenger 1400 earlier today. Somebody had let something nasty drip down the face, dissolving the paint as it went and rusting where it was allowed to pool.
So this one's going to be fun.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 06, 2025 08:10 PM (lUFok)
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In keeping with the them of the thread, I have a friend that does thematic posts on Facebook of all the curb alert finds he sees during his daily drives (furniture, appliances, plumbing fixtures{yes, toilets} and such. As for me, a friend just got me a gift certificate to Scale Hobbyist as a retirement gift and I was on their website shopping like old school Wheel of Fortune: okay, for $18 I'll take the X; for $27 I'll take Y and finally for $62 I'll take Z.
Posted by: Stacy0311 at December 06, 2025 08:59 PM (BfTZK)
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Bench cleaning proceeds apace. Packed away an old desk lamp that had gone unused for several years, May make it an LED conversion project. Ditto the little Tensor "high-intensity" lamp. Remember those?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 09:31 PM (npFr7)
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The interesting thing about scavenged junk is someday, it will end up hosting a show on MSNOW (or MSDNC or whatever they call it)
Posted by: VirginiaSmoker at December 07, 2025 03:25 AM (zwTY9)
Ace of Spaces Pet Thread, December 6
Courtesy Jack Jackson
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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.
Would you like a treat?
Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.
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Courtesy Hadrian the Seventh (who didn't put his nic in his email)
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Meet The PetMorons
16 year old Spot
from the desk of "THE LORD PROTECTOR" the BIG "T"
Spot looks like a lovely, healthy kitty! And still a hunter?
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This is Tillie my 14 yr old Dachshund/Mix that went to heaven on Nov 24th. I had rescued her back in 2011 after losing my beloved Chou/Mix Sierra quite unexpectedly. Sierra had been my angel and her sudden loss had left a huge hole in my heart. Tillie was only 10 months old when I adopted her and she quickly healed my heart. She was just a few months shy of her 15th birthday when she passed. Over the years she was quite a handful sometimes but I'd do it all over again just to have her back.
She was around 1-2 yrs old in the first two photos and about 2-3 yrs old in the third photo. The second photo is her waiting for the squirrels to come down the trees (she loved chasing squirrels).
Wish to remain a lurker. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Tillie looks like a wonderful dog. So sorry that you have lost her, and also Sierra. The "waiting for squirrels" photo is endearing. Stay in touch.
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You asked about pet shelters. This is a small shed in the backyard I transformed into a stray cat shelter. I looked up instructions and followed them. Raised up off the ground. An ingress large enough for entry, but small enough to keep out the elements. Insulated with straw bales. It is shown with Sakura, who is the current stray yard khet. She isn't sold on it. And my hope is by feeding her near it, she will come to see it as a place to get out of the cold.
Victor Tango Kilo
Sakura may be a stray, but she's a pet. A lovely one.
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PetMoron Adjacent Animals
Encountered by Members of The Horde
Parakeets taking a bath this morning on Broadway in Garland Texas!
Eromero
Were they noisy?
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An American raccoon has been in the news recently. And By-Tor has raccoon visitors again.
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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.
If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:
petmorons at protonmail dot com
Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
Until next Saturday, have a great week!
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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, November 29
I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 03:42 PM (Ia/+0)
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Paisley and I are settling into our new bachelor suite. It has a big window looking out onto the street. Paisley likes to sit on the bed, look out the window and bark at random shit.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 06, 2025 03:43 PM (8CIFn)
6Lassie introduced the concept of "series reboots" to TV. Think about it. First there was Jeff Miller (Tommy Rettig), his mother (played in the first season by Cloris Leachman), and Gramps on their small farm. Then came Timmy Martin and his parents, his mother played by June Lockhart. Then came forest Ranger Corey Bray, a bachelor. There may have been another before the show was canceled in the late Sixties or early Seventies. Each time, Lassie continued, but her environment changed.
It's possible -- I don't remember -- but Timmy may have been shown actually passing Lassie on to ranger Bray when that reboot happened.
And I've read that Timmy was never caught in a well in any episode. Jeff might have been, but somebody else will have to answer that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 03:44 PM (wzUl9)
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Big black Stirling is sleeping atop the back of the couch, on a blanket folded there for humans to use. Little gray Dagny is curled on my bed between the pillows, where she napped with me just now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 03:45 PM (wzUl9)
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Too bad I can't figure out a way to share the short video I got of the visiting possum. It's large!
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 03:45 PM (+mUZM)
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Love the pets. Lurker, condolences on the loss of Tillie and Sierra.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 03:47 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 03:49 PM (6U1c2)
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Afternoon, everyone. Just waiting for some ground beef to defrost so I can make meatloaf. My two pups are napping right now, but they'll be happy and awake once they smell the cooking.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 06, 2025 03:49 PM (ufSfZ)
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Doggeh has such a sensitive tummy
Today is a bad poo day
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 03:49 PM (6U1c2)
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I will stick to pure breed dogs from now on. At least I know what I'm getting into. I also need to stick to under 30-25 lbs.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 06, 2025 03:51 PM (VCgbV)
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Tommy Rettig was later a software guy if memory serves. I dimly recall using a book of his when I was first learning dBASE.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025 03:52 PM (q3u5l)
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I got up from my desk to go check on Penny because I thought she was napping in my bedroom.
Turns out she's been sitting next to me at my desk this entire time.
She's laying on a black towel, so she sort of blends into the background (she's a black kitty).
Some sad news. My co-workers cat had to be put down last night. Poor kittuh had a stroke and was blind and couldn't walk. Also, it had diabetes. An older cat. Still, very sad. I can't recall the kittuh's name but kittuh's staff member's name is Geoff. He's pretty shook up, even though he new this was coming at some point.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 06, 2025 03:55 PM (sAmhv)
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Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 06, 2025 03:55 PM (sAmhv)
Poor kitty. Give our condolences to Geoff.
Posted by: Joyenz at December 06, 2025 03:57 PM (2F0/Y)
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Condolences to coworker Geoff. Always tough to lose a pet.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 03:58 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 04:09 PM (sDNVV)
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Greetings one and all. So over here, my boy Kroger is on restriction. He got a strain that was so bad, he can't walk very well. At least the vet told us that this was not osteo so we took some relief from that. But he's a bit annoyed that he's not allowed to jump around like he wants to.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 06, 2025 04:09 PM (7xrfc)
Posted by: NR Pax at December 06, 2025 04:11 PM (7xrfc)
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Lily is mrrping and trilling for me to deploy the feather toy. I'm basically here to feed and entertain my feline overlord(-lady).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 04:11 PM (kpS4V)
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Victor Tango Kilo, you are so thoughtful to provide shelter for stray kitties.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 04:12 PM (kpS4V)
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Jan Clayton was Tommy Rettig's mother. Cloris Leachman was Timmy's first adoptive mother to be replaced by June Lockhart after one season.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 04:19 PM (pkeXY)
35Tommy Rettig was later a software guy if memory serves. I dimly recall using a book of his when I was first learning dBASE.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 06, 2025
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That's right -- when the acting gigs dried up, as they so often do for child actors, he reinvented himself.
I understand he was very much attached to the Lassie he worked with on the show. I'd like to think he adopted a collie of his own later.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:20 PM (wzUl9)
36Jan Clayton was Tommy Rettig's mother. Cloris Leachman was Timmy's first adoptive mother to be replaced by June Lockhart after one season.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025
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Oh, so Cloris came later? I was confused.
Whitman's series of "TV adventures for young readers" had at least two Jeff & Lassie novels, and two Timmy & Lassie ones. I had and read them all.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:22 PM (wzUl9)
37Heck, the cat PUSHED Timmy into the well.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025
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Just to see him splash!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:23 PM (wzUl9)
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>>>One minute I'm telling my dog, "no, you can't have my bacon." Then he makes this face and I'm making him an omelette to go with it.
Ha ha!
I had to leave my cat (The World's Most Beautiful Cat) with an uncatted relative once, and as I was explaining cat things face-to-face, and the cat was purring happily on my lap, the relative said, "Ew. Do you let it sit on you?" And my heart sank, and yet we continued, and my cat was rapidly winning over the relative, and within hours the relative said, "Do you think [cat's name] would like some warm milk?"
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:23 PM (RuTUS)
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>>>waiting for the squirrels to come down the trees
Catching a glimpse of St. Francis at the base of the tree!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:27 PM (RuTUS)
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Puddleglum, I'm sorry to hear about your co-worker's feline friend. That's the tragedy, that we know their time will be shorter than ours, and they don't -- and we do our best to make that time a happy one.
If I were there, I'd tell your co-worker (though maybe not right away) to remember his buddy as he was, to honor him. Any whitewashing of his memory ("He was *always* a good cat! He never did anything wrong!") would be a disservice to him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:27 PM (wzUl9)
41I had to leave my cat (The World's Most Beautiful Cat) with an uncatted relative once, and as I was explaining cat things face-to-face, and the cat was purring happily on my lap, the relative said, "Ew. Do you let it sit on you?" And my heart sank, and yet we continued, and my cat was rapidly winning over the relative, and within hours the relative said, "Do you think [cat's name] would like some warm milk?"
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025
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I'v always said that Marie-Antoinette the smart black cat would have converted a cat hater. Big Arizona or Wolf? Probably not. Little Dagny might manage it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 04:30 PM (wzUl9)
Looks like more than a pair-a-keets. More than a dozen!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:33 PM (RuTUS)
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Our tortie cat charmed a family member who claims to not enjoy animals. Cat just jumped up in the lap of person and dared them to protest. Family member was actually pleased and giggling.. In a contest of strong-willed females, the cat wins.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 04:35 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:35 PM (RuTUS)
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43 Our tortie cat charmed a family member who claims to not enjoy animals. Cat just jumped up in the lap of person and dared them to protest. Family member was actually pleased and giggling.. In a contest of strong-willed females, the cat wins.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 04:35 PM (6p0Jv)
In my case, they were both females of their species, too!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:41 PM (RuTUS)
The immortal words of June Lockhart are "Who do I have to fuck to get off this show?"
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:44 PM (W7XSX)
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46 The immortal words of June Lockhart are "Who do I have to fuck to get off this show?"
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:44 PM (W7XSX)
!!!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:47 PM (RuTUS)
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Lost in Space. Irwin Allen had a scene where June and the others were violently tossed is boat on body of water on a strange planet. It was so violent that June was battered and bruised.
Hence, the comment.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:49 PM (W7XSX)
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The immortal words of June Lockhart are "Who do I have to fuck to get off this show?"
Posted by: no one
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And I thought it was spicy when Barbara Billingsley spoke jive in Airplane! Those TV moms had potty mouths.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 04:51 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:53 PM (W7XSX)
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Your read a script. It off-camera things are completely different.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:54 PM (W7XSX)
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young raccoons are so stinking cute. But then they grow up and become destructive trash pandas.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:00 PM (hhkIi)
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A few times a week, my lawn gets a visit by a flock of white ibises like the one's pictured here:
http://tiny.cc/hn3w001
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 05:03 PM (nbLIj)
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We have a communal nest of 4 monk parakeets near our house in Queens. They chose a transformer box. The city seems to leave them alone as the nest has been there for years.
Feral monk parakeets are common.
Posted by: Accomack at December 06, 2025 05:04 PM (8jVAy)
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My old bloodhound-ish doggeh loved/hated young raccoons. Or old. He did not discriminate. We have memories of him front paws on tree and baying that bay.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:06 PM (6p0Jv)
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CME headed our way? 20:39 UTC? Only a couple of places reporting it. Fake?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 05:09 PM (vd6bO)
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We have a communal nest of 4 monk parakeets near our house in Queens. They chose a transformer box. The city seems to leave them alone as the nest has been there for years.
Feral monk parakeets are common.
Posted by: Accomack at December 06, 2025 05:04 PM (8jVAy)
Kentucky Fried Chicken > Queens Fried Parakeet..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2025 05:09 PM (nbLIj)
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I've heard of those parakeet colonies in TX. They seem to be a city/suburb thing. Have never seen or heard one out in the sticks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:12 PM (6p0Jv)
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My husband never had pets as a child. Our first pet was a male bouvier--120 pounds of dog. My mother-in-law couldn't understand why we bothered.
But she went from that to saying, "Water? That's all you give him?" to sneaking him pieces of her world-famous pizza when she thought we weren't looking.
Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 05:12 PM (PkCdJ)
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Julie Andrews cursed like a sailor.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:53 PM (W7XSX)
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Now I'm picturing the von Trapp family singing bawdy sea shanties.
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Clearly he was a coonhound Mary. Which brings back memories of listening to Jerry Clower tapes.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:16 PM (hhkIi)
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Clearly he was a coonhound Mary. Which brings back memories of listening to Jerry Clower tapes.
Posted by: PaleRider
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Yep! A Bloodhound/Treeing Walker coonhound mix. I need to send pics for this thread. I haven't had the heart to yet.
LOL on the Jerry Clower. Dad listened to him a lot. He was funny.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 06, 2025 05:20 PM (6p0Jv)
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Parakeets are considered a major ag crop pest and are generally hunted down.
City folk really want to live in a diorama.
Posted by: Accomack at December 06, 2025 05:22 PM (8jVAy)
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I had no idea parakeets could survive in the wild, let alone do well enough to become a crop pest.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 05:24 PM (hhkIi)
65 I had no idea parakeets could survive in the wild, let alone do well enough to become a crop pest.
Posted by: PaleRider
I've never seen one outside of a cage.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 05:36 PM (pkeXY)
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59 My husband never had pets as a child. Our first pet was a male bouvier--120 pounds of dog. My mother-in-law couldn't understand why we bothered.
But she went from that to saying, "Water? That's all you give him?" to sneaking him pieces of her world-famous pizza when she thought we weren't looking.
Posted by: Wenda at December 06, 2025 05:12 PM (PkCdJ)
; )
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (RuTUS)
Thank you, smart Morons!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 05:44 PM (gDlxJ)
21 Riddles hubby sent (answers are all breeds of dogs) and I need help with these 3:
1 - would sound like a musical instrument if you changed the first vowel sound from long E to long U?
2 - contains somewhere within it the consecutive letters -CHSH-?
3 - is an anagram of SOMEDAY?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 04:01 PM (GhIJO)
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:48 PM (RuTUS)
70 Hobby Thread - December 6, 2025 [TRex]
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Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:54 PM (RuTUS)
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Tillie was quite a beautiful animal. I’m glad you had so many good years with her. I love the picture of Tillie in your backyard! Such a charming oasis I hope you still live there. Wherever you are, the Lord goes with you.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at December 06, 2025 06:46 PM (S3aD9)
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Thanks for all the kind comments about my catio last week, y'all. Sorry I was out of town and unable to respond to questions on that day, but in case anyone's still interested:
1. The window is the access point. It's a standard ground floor window, not a basement or garden window; it looks lower to the ground than it should be because our patio was added after we bought the house. But it's just our back kitchen window. We just open the window to let the cats out.
2. I don't know if the mesh screen filters out fleas. It's Phifer Pet Screen, which can be purchased at Home Depot. It's like a heavier-duty plastic mesh screen that can be used to repair screen doors and window screens, and is more resistant to pet claws than standard fiberglass mesh. I just got a 8-foot wide roll of it and cut a large piece that fit around the front and sides of the structure. The only reason for the screen is to keep the cats from getting out, as they are indoor cats and cannot be trusted to roam safely outdoors. There are coyotes and cars about.
I'll see if I can get some nice pictures of the kitties to send in for a future thread.
Posted by: Caiwyn at December 06, 2025 11:39 PM (0mzVh)
Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Dec. 6
Not a lot happening hee in the chilly DMV but I do have two spots of color. My Encore Azalea has not disappointed. Not a lot of blossoms but it's been in the thirties and I am still getting new buds and blossoms.
My Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter cactus is also in blossom. I will literally have flowers til Spring. Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By
More from 58Mikie! (remember our special feature two weeks ago?)
Consumption of Hazelnuts is very healthy....high in folic acid for pregnant women, second highest nut in mono-unsaturated oil. The nut is high in oil but the good oil, (like an avocado or olive oil) which really does help reduce cholesterol.
Please see photos attached. The book is really good for Hazelnut recipes...tough to scan the pages on my scanner, but it is available on Amazon and I saw there was a listing for a "very good" used edition for $ 1.99....the Hazelnut salad recipe with broccoli is very good...once roasted Hazelnuts can be made into "butter" with a nut grinder like in stores or I think a Cuisinart type device.
I have always thought of hazelnuts in connection with Christmas and nutcrackers, but grinding them makes sense to me for most recipes.
Try to get a used copy of the book, as suggested above. Nature
Fascinating.
Puttering
Transitioning from Thanksgiving to Christmas; a project completed by a friend - Autumn Friendship Quilt:
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Gardens of The Horde
I got my Baker Creek catalog, so i'll be doind some armchair gardening. You decorating, shopping for the yard or anything?
Giving any garden presents? Seeds? Tools?
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Week in Review
What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Nov 29
In addition to other updates, The famous Pat* and her husband have a row of Blue Spruce big enough for Christmas trees. Ahyone else?
I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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https://tinyurl.com/yc6fp6a3
This is a picture of the Christmas grave wreaths a few of us made this year.
It's a yearly tradition in the family to make wreaths for passed family members. It's only 4 of us now but hopefully will continue for years to come.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (Ia/+0)
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lovely photos as usual! My Christmas Cactus is blooming as well, had a photo of it posted here last year. Looked some stuff up and learned that their blooming date is set by a steady progression of diminishing hours of sunlight; so gardeners who are on top of things can manipulate the light so that they bloom at a very specific time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK8)
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Also, as of yesterday, though had many cold mornings and frost and snow, the Anaheim peppers plants in my mini greenhouse are still growing, not doing anything else but amazed cold hasn't killed them yet.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:43 PM (Ia/+0)
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You can get oil out of hazelnuts too. All it takes is a Corona grain mill.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 01:47 PM (+mUZM)
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I just picked up a white bloomed Christmas cactus yesterday. Today, I decided to deal with my oldest plant. It was still in the original pot. I'd put it on top of another pot, with a planted bulb, and the roots grew down into it. I managed to cut away the old pot and flipped some potting soil into my eye doing it. Got my eye cleared out but may have to move the plant to a bigger pot.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 02:00 PM (+mUZM)
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I have a small polyantha rose, "Verdun", that put out a few flowers just before this last cold spell. They're a bright pink/mauve color, and really stand out now that everything else is gone!
Posted by: Lirio100 at December 06, 2025 02:01 PM (ky7/T)
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Skip, the Christmas wreaths are lovely! Each one is unique, but they are all beautiful.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 06, 2025 02:01 PM (FMtrg)
Posted by: KT at December 06, 2025 02:06 PM (7vIsy)
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We're licking our wounds from the last summer, and planning next year's garden.
Only the peppers thrived. We have enough ancho, smoked and regular paprika, chipotle, and green chili that we don't need any but fresh peppers next year.
We're deficient in tomato products.
Sweet tates did fine. Butternut did fine. Should be peak asparagus next spring,
Posted by: MkY at December 06, 2025 02:08 PM (q6tQZ)
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More on hazelnut in the wings for next week. Got any recipes of your own?
Posted by: KT at December 06, 2025 02:17 PM (7vIsy)
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Afternoon everybody
Happy to report that my Encore Azalea survived the snow yesterday. The terrace today looks like it never happened. There are pansies everywhere in the planters scattered all over Bethesda covered with snow. I always wonder how they survive an entire winter.
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When I first looked at that salad, I thought it was a bowl of tomatoe soup. Favorite winter meal: tomato soup with croutons( has to have croutons) and a grilled cheese sandwich on sour dough.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 02:28 PM (kpS4V)
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Maryland has such weird weather. Out west it's basically Pennsylvania, but out east you can have mild winters or killer ice storms. And Japanese beetles are a crapshoot.
Thank goodness the summer stinkbug swarms and river floods are dependable.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 02:32 PM (kpS4V)
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I have a Christmas cactus that isn't doing too well although the other one is growing. Thought I would propagate from the poorer one with leaf cuttings. Anyone tried this and how did it do?
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:33 PM (yTvNw)
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From Boise area: lows 21-36 F, highs 39-45. Some rain.
We bottled a 3rd batch of cider - just four 6-packs per batch, as we're doing many trial batches to see what we like best.
We finished shredding leaves from our huge silver maple. I raked leaves out of the front drainage ditches. We cut the leaves off some of the Siberian Irises.
I went to a ladies' "Favorite Things" exchange last night - bring four of something (under $10), display it all, ladies take numbers - first and third rounds in numerical order, second and fourth rounds in reverse order, one pick per round. Everyone takes home four things. Among my loot is an amaryllis bulb, so I'll be looking forward to watching it grow.
Posted by: Pat* at December 06, 2025 02:34 PM (tiz3J)
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Pat* what sort of changes are you doing to your cider? Different mixes of apples, or different yeast?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:38 PM (rbvCR)
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That video of the time lapse mushrooms is fascinating. So much variety and such weird shapes. A few made me think of something from a Lovecraft story. No wonder Beatrix Potter used mushrooms in so many of her botanical drawings.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:39 PM (yTvNw)
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My task for today is to chop up a sweet-meat Hubbard squash so I can blanche and freeze it. This is the big one that grew almost unnoticed in one of the tomato cages.
Sweet Meats are grey and pretty tough, so I have developed the technique of taking them down to manageable sizes in the back yard with a machete. Inelegant, but effective. I am always worried about slipping when I am cutting squash apart with a knife, the durned things tend to twist and slither away.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:44 PM (rbvCR)
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you propagate Christmas cactus by taking those leaf segments and plant them in dirt, and keep them warmish and moist. My wife does this all the time, and my Mom used to do it too.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:48 PM (rbvCR)
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KT, since terra preta came up in the thread below, does anyone have any information on using charcoal in their gardens?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 02:49 PM (rbvCR)
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Just went out and planted some garlic in an old container in the back yard. Lousy potatoes from it a couple of years ago. Rainy, 40°, a little snow expected.
We'll look again in the RI spring when it comes.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 02:49 PM (sl73Y)
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I have a Christmas cactus that isn't doing too well although the other one is growing. Thought I would propagate from the poorer one with leaf cuttings. Anyone tried this and how did it do?
Posted by: JTB
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Never done it, myself. Good luck!
"The Spruce" has some info:
tinyurl.com/s85yrx8c
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:49 PM (rdVOm)
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24 ... Kindltot,
Thanks. I figured that would be the case but never tried it with Christmas cacti.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:52 PM (yTvNw)
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Bought a plant light to try for indoor plants but experiment isn't working too well
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 02:53 PM (Ia/+0)
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27 ... Thanks to JQ as well about the Christmas Cactus. Think I'll try both ways.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 02:56 PM (yTvNw)
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I have a hanging ivy plant of some kind in the den, been doing fine for 25+ years. But its hung seven feet up, i reach to water from an old tea pot, and it has never been repotted.
What the hell does the root ball look like. Andcould, should anything ever be done. Shoots go out fifteen feet and I just tuck thenm around the curtain rods with the others when they hang to low and start entering the printer.
And why do they always do that?
Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 02:58 PM (sl73Y)
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Picked up my Poinsettias today, and should you see them, you would ask why the heck there are orange peels sitting on top of the soil of each.
My cat would explain, "Because he's a bastard and doesn't want me vomiting all over the house."
Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 03:00 PM (dIske)
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29 Bought a plant light to try for indoor plants but experiment isn't working too well
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 02:53 PM (Ia/+0)
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Find a stoner and get some tips.
Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 03:02 PM (dIske)
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Thanks for the Christmas cactus reminder. I promised my granddaughters a plant. I know I've taken cuttings and done this but it's been a while.
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Orson was thinking same thing.
I think you need like 500 of them
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 03:07 PM (Ia/+0)
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I do know, if the Christmas cactus gets too dry, it will drop leaves, which put out roots if it hits soil. Should be easy to get a start.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 03:20 PM (+mUZM)
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I did notice that the garlic I planted is growing! I can see growth peaking through the straw.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 03:21 PM (+mUZM)
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18 degrees out there today, but in the midst of a wind storm. So far the peak is only 26 mph, but it is making Ruby nervous so she's been pacing since about 5 a.m. Broke one of the flag posts clean off, and we had to deflate our giant Christmas decorations outside. A real tragedy.
Meanwhile, the orange and lemon trees I bought are now about 2 feet tall, loving the heat from the TOYO. They didn't do much in the greenhouse this summer. Maybe they are just indoor plants. I consider them a bit of a lark. Doubt I will ever get them to fruit up here.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 03:34 PM (6Bc88)
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@Kindltot #21 Pat* asked me to answer since I'm the brewmaster.
We are varying both yeast and apple mix, plus some other experiments:
Three different yeasts: MA33 (our usual), Windsor, and Nottingham (both usually for ales) using same apples
Two different apple mixes - both using our usual Golden Delicious base but mixing in different tart/sour apples - Jonathan vs. Golden Russet
A few experiments to come, mixing various adjuncts with small batches of our 'original recipe': holiday spice, pear juice, Nelson Sauvin hops, maybe some raspberry syrup.
And a small batch spiked with sugar to get to 11% ABV, and current aging in a small ex-bourbon cask.
There's still four gallons stashed in the freezer, but I'm out of my mixing apples so those may stay there until next year since the trees usually have an off year after bearing so heavily.
Posted by: Pat*'s Hubbie at December 06, 2025 06:18 PM (tiz3J)
This week, I have been thinking about how issues which have been in the background for a considerable amount of time suddenly become part of "The Narrative".
First up today, Ken Burns' new series on The American Revolution.
Timing: just before Christmas.
Questions:
Why does this series seem different from, say, his Civil War epic?
It's not long now until the 250th anniversary of the country. Has anything else about the Founding of the Country made the news lately? Why is Ken Burns introducing the subject?
Burns’ latest PBS six-episode documentary, The American Revolution, explores the founding of the United States and the subsequent war with the British Empire. It could have been an excellent start to the upcoming celebration of America’s 250th anniversary of the founding, but sadly, it steers away from celebration and emphasizes both explicit and implicit criticism of the Founders.
Within the first five minutes of the first episode, we are told that the Founders (specifically Benjamin Franklin) used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary.
Franklin frequently commented on the lives of Native Americans, but we have to be careful how we evaluate Franklin’s words on the subject. He was famously satirical, whether he spoke about the British, Americans, or Indians. In a letter to James Parker, dated 20 March 1751, Franklin writes,
It would be a very strange Thing, if six Nations of ignorant Savages should be capable of forming a Scheme for such an Union, and be able to execute it in such a Manner, as that it has subsisted Ages, and appears indissoluble; and yet that a like Union should be impracticable for ten or a Dozen English Colonies, to whom it is more necessary, and must be more advantageous; and who cannot be supposed to want an equal Understanding of their Interests.
Much later, in 1784’s “Remarks Concerning the Savages of North America,” Franklin speaks highly of the “Civility” of Indians in comparison to the Americans. However, he ends up satirically and equally alluding to a hypocrisy of both groups, as well as the human need to praise the group that he or she is part of.
But Burns doesn’t seem to be interested in nuance and leaves out certain complexities of political and philosophical thought. The entire series is devised around an oppressor-oppressed dialectic.
Concerning Benjamin Franklin and satire, I just read somewhere that the Founders didn't allow Franklin to write the Declaration of Independence because they thought he might include a joke in it somewhere.
Concerning Ken Burns, we do not need another oppressor-oppressed dialectic at this time.
After watching the entire series, Burns’ objective is to claim that principles played no role in the founding of the United States. Rather, it was based on low self-interest. But this creates a contradiction for Burns and his co-directors. One does not speak of liberty and yearning for it unless one has experienced tyranny. Tyranny creates destructive conditions for an individual, be it existentially, economically, or politically. As historian Bernard Bailyn says in the documentary, the creation of the United States is about the “struggles between the possibilities of power and liberty.” It still is. It would have behooved the filmmakers to include a few philosophical points about what the American mind truly is. And why the Americans have loved liberty and limited power.
Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
Compare to the principles made clear in Sullivan Ballou's letter from the Ken Burns Civil War epic. There are versions of the letter floating around in which the part of Sullivan Ballou's letter to his wife concerning the future growth of their sons into "honorable manhood" has been removed. Could not upset The Left with a reference to "Manhood" once "gender" became an issue.
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Minnesota and Somalia
When did this become a national issue?
Was it when the NYT finally acknowledged that there were problems under the watch of Tim Walz? Was their piece a personal message to Tim Walz?
Was the NYT piece a response to the piece by Ryan Thorpe and Chris Rufo revealing that terrorists in Somalia were profiting from public program fraud in Minnesota?
If you have been tracking these issues over at Powerline, you know that they have been urging people to give credit to responsible prosecutors (for seven years!), to local reporters and to government whistleblowers who have not gotten much national attention. WHY?
Additionally, a little before the Thorpe/Rufo piece hit, a 7,000 word story was written by Armin Rosen in County Highway.
Thank you to the Wall Street Journal for graciously mentioning and quoting from Armin Rosen’s “superb” 7000 word report on the Minneapolis Somali welfare scams — and crediting local journalists.https://t.co/TzDBu4kZSA
So, when and why did this really become a national issue?
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Rosen's X feed has been kind of interesting, whether you agree with it or not.
And here's the other thing, the third rail of this whole topic isn't immigration or Islamophobia or whatever—it's the, uh, frequency with which major politicians drift in and out of the margins of these schemes. It's not smart to go after an Ellison or an Ilhan or a Tim Walz…
The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist. The The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist. The Democrats chose their latest cause: standing up for Venezuela’s narco-terrorist regime. They advanced a novel “legal” theory, that it is perfectly OK to kill drug dealers in the Caribbean by blowing up their boat, but only if you do it in a single explosion. Makes perfect sense, just like how we fought World War II.
But the biggest story of the week was corruption in Minnesota–billions stolen from taxpayers, mostly by Somalis, under the somnolent eye of Governor Tim Walz. Actually, that was the big story of 2022, but better late than never. We welcome the national press to the fray, and have participated enthusiastically in their reprise of the stories we have been writing for years.
Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.
This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.
Serving your mid-day open thread needs
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Posted by: alpine_beer at December 06, 2025 11:22 AM (van9r)
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Unlike Burn's Civil War Documentary, I think only a relative handful of people are paying any attention to this one. Most likely due to the collapse in the numbers of those who tune in to PBS over the last couple of decades.
Oh, they'll still get all the Righteous and Faithful who will swear that it is Holy Doctrine, and they control the pages of the NYT - but not many people are really paying attention to them, either. Not anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:26 AM (uWKK8)
3After watching the entire series, Burns’ objective is to claim that principles played no role in the founding of the United States. Rather, it was based on low self-interest.
I was wondering if he would go all 1619 on us. He did. FOAD.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:29 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:33 AM (Ia/+0)
5Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
At the Bicentennial, there were a whole bunch of community cookbooks to celebrate it. I’ll be releasing my own Sestercentennial Cookery (one TexasMoMe attendee got a one-off AOSHQ ashcan in October) in January.
But what about a second AOSHQ cookbook, with not just heritage recipes but also Moronic history lessons and other revolutionary advice? I’m thinking Junior Moron Guidebook; I think we have a lot of historical writers here on the HQ as well as other practical writers that might be able to contribute one-page or one-paragraph essays related to American history.
Who TF died and made Ken Burns the expert on US history?
When I first heard he was going to 'do' the American Revolution, I could sense his deconstruction of it coming a mile away.
Ken Burns is a sawed-off leftist prick, and we should pay him no mind.
Posted by: Don Black at December 06, 2025 11:35 AM (ZxPkt)
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Burns is obsessed with the nobility of the Black Man! He will do anything to tear down the institutions that he thinks enslaved him or kept him servile (baseball).
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This little charmer from a (claims to be Somalian) X account:
"...after close to a century of attacking Islam they’ve never been successful. Their plans to demonize and vilify Islam have never worked. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. --You can never defeat a people who only fear Allah.--"
Pulling them off the gubmint tit won't be pretty...and that's just the politicians. Then comes the millions of newly arrived gimmegrants from sheitholes that hate us.
Posted by: ju at December 06, 2025 11:36 AM (EgpoY)
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I guess it's a good thing that PBS can't survive without taxpayer money, otherwise we'd all be paying for this.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
10Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 11:34 AM (EXyHK)
Nag Ace. We are all set and ready to go with a second edition, but would prefer his okay.
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Ken Burns is, was and always will be an Ass Head.
Why anyone watches his anti-white, anti-American and anti-truth propaganda nonsense is beyond me.
Posted by: Zombie Leni Riefenstahl at December 06, 2025 11:37 AM (R/m4+)
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>>> Within the first five minutes of the first episode, we are told that the Founders (specifically Benjamin Franklin) used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary.
Yes, Franklin only credits the Iroquois for inspiring the idea of banding together in a confederacy of shared interests. He has no western influences to draw on...like the Greeks or the Swiss. Nope, Indians only! It is to laugh.
Ken Burns luckily has faded in relevancy. Who cares about him anymore? The only threat this documentary has is if it's shown in high schools to young skulls full of mush, who are too uneducated to be critical thinkers yet, and don't realize it's all bogus info. Thats where the danger happens.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:38 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 06, 2025 11:40 AM (L9Jmf)
17Ken Burns is, was and always will be an Ass Head.
Why anyone watches his anti-white, anti-American and anti-truth propaganda nonsense is beyond me.
He kind of restrained himself in The Civil War. That was before he was famous and could let his freak flag fly. Now, it's "I hate whitey". He blends right in at PBS.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:40 AM (Riz8t)
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Saw but a long trailer on Ken Burns Propaganda 6 part miniseries. But watched a couple hours of videos taking down Ken's Propaganda miniseries.
Actually best wasn't as much as taking apart as what Ken's Propaganda didn't say. The synopsis the video said was it was about the war, not the Revolution. Besides all the Propaganda filled war, was about nothing the Revolution was about. Nothing hardly on the Constitution they fought for, the Bill of Rights they fought for. Just a lot of what Ken wanted it to be for which wasn't historically correct.
I might be able to find that video but can't be sure to find it.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:41 AM (Ia/+0)
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The only threat this documentary has is if it's shown in high schools to young skulls full of mush, . . .
Posted by: LizLem
We need the likes of Professor Houseman once again.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 11:41 AM (cYBz/)
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What Key is Largo in?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
The key of Sea.
Duh.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 06, 2025 11:42 AM (cYBz/)
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Ken Burns lost his virginity to his mommy's black maid, who was then fired for stealing the silver.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 11:47 AM (W7XSX)
27 We need the likes of Professor Houseman once again.
Posted by: Tonypete
John Houseman reads the phone book:
https://youtu.be/S_LA4gJeCio
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 11:49 AM (pkeXY)
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https://tinyurl.com/2z2xv4rn
Bit as said think I did a good quick synopsis on his video
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:49 AM (Ia/+0)
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There's speculation that the Somali fraud will approach much more than the $1 billion being reported.
More like $8 billion.
Or more.
And, yea, Walz and many MN state/federal politicos are in on it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (NwnyJ)
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My mom was surprised I wouldn't want to watch a nice history of the Revolution
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (Ia/+0)
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That could be fun! I've made George Washington's favorite cornbread recipe and it's really good.
Posted by: LizLem
Doesn't dry, old cornbread stick to wooden teef?
Posted by: Affordable Dentures, Inc. at December 06, 2025 11:52 AM (oftw2)
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Reportedly, the cocaine street prices in Europe have gone up by a quarter to a third. This is hurting someone or someones bigly.
The Dutch navy has been patrolling the Dutch Antilles and waters off Suriname for 20 years, boarding and sinking the drug couriers, and have not been able to make this much of a dent in the supply.
I have heard speculations that if the drug trade out of South America were ended, it might collapse some countries' economies
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:52 AM (rbvCR)
33My mom was surprised I wouldn't want to watch a nice history of the Revolution
To which the correct response is "when they make one, I will".
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (Riz8t)
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Thing of State Fraud is the fraud is shoveled out by state bureaucracy who earns lots of salary and no doubt bonuses how much they can shovel out.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (Ia/+0)
35we do not need another oppressor-oppressed dialectic at this time.
Oh, honey chile, that just shows how badly we need reeducation camps in this so-called country.
Posted by: Jasmine C. from Dallas at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (0sNs1)
36That could be fun! I've made George Washington's favorite cornbread recipe and it's really good.
I’m making Thomas Jefferson’s beans & rice for tonight, and it’s making the house smell ridiculously good.
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Ken Burns is the Howard Zinn of Herbert Marcuses.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (W7XSX)
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If the gop cuts $1B spending they’re the worst monsters on earth.
Somalia steal $1B, what the big deal guys?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 11:53 AM (wrRTB)
39But the biggest story of the week was corruption in Minnesota–billions stolen from taxpayers, mostly by Somalis, under the somnolent eye of Governor Tim Walz.
Somalis are all over X explaining how wonderful Somalia is.
It's just that they don't want to live there.
And, of course, you have Minnesota AWFLs on X (who probably live in lily-white small towns) explaining what wonderful neighbors the Somalis are.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 06, 2025 11:54 AM (xTIDn)
40That could be fun! I've made George Washington's favorite cornbread recipe and it's really good.
I'd say you should try his rye whiskey, but I've had his rye whiskey. Bleccchhhh.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:54 AM (Riz8t)
41Ken Burns is the Howard Zinn of Herbert Marcuses.
Ken Burns is the Lloyd Christmas of Moe Howards.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:55 AM (Riz8t)
42
Problem with Ken Burns is 20 or 30 years from now it will be THE truth. Like if you say it’s nonsense that Indians wrote the constitution people will say no it’s true, the great historian Ken Burns did a show on it and everything.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 11:56 AM (wrRTB)
43To which the correct response is "when they make one, I will".
Allen Guelzo’s America’s Founding Fathers was quite good. I don’t think it’s ever been aired on TV, though.
44
Could not upset The Left with a reference to "Manhood" once "gender" became an issue.
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As a power lesbian, Ken Burns felt particularly targeted by such engorged speech.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 11:56 AM (kpS4V)
45
Burns' Civil War completely ignored the religious revival that was happening at the same time. I finished an annotated diary and collected letters of an Illinois volunteer who was in the Army of the West, and he speaks regularly about camp meetings and church services.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 11:56 AM (rbvCR)
46Allen Guelzo’s America’s Founding Fathers was quite good. I don’t think it’s ever been aired on TV, though.
Agreed, and I actually saw it, but can't remember where. Possibly Netflix?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (Riz8t)
47 Take out the Cat Ballou letter from his "The Civil War" series and Burns would have had have nothing special.
He's a nullity who is flying above his clearance level.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (f0f+R)
48
Breaking News: Famous astronaut Katy Perry and distinguished Canadian political figure Justin Trudeau are now an official couple!
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (0sNs1)
49Take out the Cat Ballou letter from his "The Civil War" series and Burns would have had have nothing special.
He's a nullity who is flying above his clearance level.
No, I don't agree with that. Between the music, Shelby Foote, and what was at the time a revolutionary way of presenting a documentary, it was quite good (IMHO). You could tell, though, that he had to fight the urge to make it all a polemic about the evil white man.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:59 AM (Riz8t)
50 And, yea, Walz and many MN state/federal politicos are in on it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (NwnyJ)
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My guess: this will not be pursued vigorously because nobody wants to know how bad and so widespread it really is.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 12:01 PM (tgvbd)
51
Apparently many of the whistleblowers on MN's mega-corruption are in fact from state agencies, and much of the digging/reporting has been done by actual local journalists. For years.
It's actually a pretty stark (if redundant) illustration of how normal, good things and people still exist across the country, even in the worst-run places - but the de facto blackout on information by MSM and the indolence of Congress, supplemented by collaboration by key federal agencies (except during the black swan Trump periods), conceal such mega-scandals from most of the public.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 12:02 PM (U/Byj)
52
If Somalia is so great when Trump deports their asses they should be delighted to return to the homeland. Right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 12:02 PM (wrRTB)
53
I had a history teacher at UH who loved all the woke tropes, and this was the late 80's. So I heard that Iroquois Confederact thing. Also, Cleopatra was black, and other shite.
But, he was a very engaging speaker and did point out that the Aztecs were an imperialist power who engaged in a bit of cannibalism to boost the protein content of their food.
It was a fun class if you already read a lot of history and took his words with a bag of salt.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 12:04 PM (kpS4V)
54
12 >>> Within the first five minutes of the first episode, we are told that the Founders (specifically Benjamin Franklin) used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary.
Yes, Franklin only credits the Iroquois for inspiring the idea of banding together in a confederacy of shared interests. He has no western influences to draw on...like the Greeks or the Swiss. Nope, Indians only! It is to laugh.
Posted by: LizLem
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Ben proposed a unified colonial structure to deal with the British Empire during the midst of the French and Indian War in a meeting of colonies.
Here are some original sources directly from the NY Historical Society (meeting occurred in Albany NY 1754)
His later colonial agency to the Crown as a lobbyist for the colonies also played into his interest in the matter later.
https://tinyurl.com/k4mm3a68
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:06 PM (WDjG6)
55
Breaking News: Famous astronaut Katy Perry and distinguished Canadian political figure Justin Trudeau are now an official couple!
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (0sNs1)
And didn't think Justin liked girls.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 06, 2025 12:06 PM (L9Jmf)
56
Watch 1776 and April Morning, will get more history from those movies than Ken Burns' 'documentary.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 06, 2025 12:06 PM (e2cjy)
57
>>> Breaking News: Famous astronaut Katy Perry and distinguished Canadian political figure Justin Trudeau are now an official couple!
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at December 06, 2025 11:57 AM (0sNs1)
This is not the "suck it, Orlando!" Flex she thinks it is. Apparently her ex was pursuing Sydney Sweeney at the Bezos wedding. Why pine for Perry's two fjords when you could have Sydney's?
She tried to buy a convent in LA and the nuns there were fighting against the sale. Apparently the stress of it killed one of them. I never heard who eventually bought the property. But I hope it's not some satanic worshipper after being such holy ground.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 12:07 PM (gWBY1)
58
In middle school I had a history teacher tell us how Indians invented some kind of farming technique. Also something about them discovering strawberries 12 year old me had no clue that he was full of shit. I figured it out later.
But I’d bet 75% of the class still believes it (assuming they paid attention in class to begin with).
This is how the left wields its power in education.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 12:08 PM (wrRTB)
59 In middle school I had a history teacher tell us how Indians invented some kind of farming technique.
Burying a fish at the base of each corn plant?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:11 PM (Riz8t)
60used the Iroquois “flourishing democracy” as a blueprint for the United States Constitution. The evidence, however, is sparse, if non-existent, in the documentary.
At the time, the Iroquois didn't have a written language.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 06, 2025 12:11 PM (xTIDn)
61Agreed, and I actually saw it, but can't remember where. Possibly Netflix?
I got it from one of those Great Courses catalog sales about a year ago. I used to get them all the time, but haven’t received one in probably over a year now.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (NBPRu)
64If Somalia is so great when Trump deports their asses they should be delighted to return to the homeland. Right?
Minnesota is full of Somalis who are allegedly here because they would be killed in Somalia who periodically return to Somalia on vacation.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (xTIDn)
65
Katy Perry did win a lawsuit against an aging veteran to get his mansion.
Stay classy Katy.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (e2cjy)
66
"And, of course, you have Minnesota AWFLs on X (who probably live in lily-white small towns) explaining what wonderful neighbors the Somalis are."
One would think Somalis could at least pretend to be wonderful neighbors, while they are stealing billions from us. I have no idea what their US neighborhoods are really like ... probably 10X better than Somalia.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (vbXSk)
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53 I had a history teacher at UH who loved all the woke tropes, and this was the late 80's. So I heard that Iroquois Confederact thing. Also, Cleopatra was black, and other shite.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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Academia got into thing where the latest fad became a contest to see how outrageous one could be in assertions rather than the actual and rather dull accumulation of knowledge. The strange, queer, and atypical was the ticket to getting published and grants so that became what academia favored.
Add in leftist capture of the institution, you basically got a leftist version of Ripley's Believe It or Not where all the villians were of pallor and wealth and all the various imagined oppressed groups were the true heroes of history. Add in conspiracy based crap on no evidence, then you get Cleopatra had to be black as did Jesus, or even the nutty sun people versus whitey promoted by Hakeem Jeffries uncle Leonard.
Denialism of accepted historical explanations backed by documented original sources and derivative secondary ones and archaelogical evidence became the norm.
White guilt is one of the most destructive things promoted by neo marxists to destroy the West.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:13 PM (WDjG6)
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65 Katy Perry did win a lawsuit against an aging veteran to get his mansion.
Stay classy Katy.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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I would prefer she stays in Canada and keeps up with Justin Trudeau. They deserve each other.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:14 PM (WDjG6)
69
I think Sullivan Ballou's letter may tell us more about the principles behind the American Revolution that Ken Burns' new series. And the music they put with it really fits.
Posted by: KT at December 06, 2025 12:15 PM (7vIsy)
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62 In middle school I had a history teacher tell us how Indians invented some kind of farming technique.
Ummmmm. . . . pooping in the garden.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Ecclesiastes nothing new under the sun comes to mind here and mainly sells because Colleges of Education admit some of the lowest performing students on campus and then fill their heads full of rubbish. These students then become teachers spouting rubbish to the students who promptly internalize the rubbish themselves and then proceed to build their own rubbish heaps in their minds.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:17 PM (WDjG6)
71
"Burying a fish at the base of each corn plant?"
We all seemed to have learned that in 5th grade. Probably urban legend. If they had that many fish, they should have eaten the fish rather than the possible ear of corn months later.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 06, 2025 12:18 PM (vbXSk)
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I did read how South American Indians developed a kind of living soil made from burnt plant and animal matter, plus pottery shards and of course poop from various sources, that they would use in farming plots since the soil of the jungles was, oddly enough, so deficient.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 12:19 PM (kpS4V)
73
Katy was in the McLaren garage at the F-1 qualifying this morning
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:19 PM (Ia/+0)
74
Matt Walsh does a long take down of Ken's Propaganda inserts
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:22 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:23 PM (Ia/+0)
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69 I think Sullivan Ballou's letter may tell us more about the principles behind the American Revolution that Ken Burns' new series. And the music they put with it really fits.
Posted by: KT
Liberty! The American Revolution by noted historian Thomas Fleming is the far better bet. History Channel when it actually had history used to run that series over and over again. Better yet, actually read many of Thomas Fleming's historical works (or his historical fiction where he doesn't make up key historical events nor facts if that is your cup of tea).
One of the most thorough eviscerations of FDR and his WWII performance is in Fleming's The New Dealer's War book. Unlike Schlaes who tends toward the polemic, Fleming admits he began the project being favorable toward FDR and his legacy but the historical evidence he uncovered of FDR's nasty/vicious personality and his minions ideology over practicality changed his mind when writing the book.
His book on Washington's Fabian tactics to win the Revolutionary War is also quite excellent. Basically his political opponents to his strategy wanted to rerun Bunker Hill over and over again. Washington, after the NYC debacle, declined.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:23 PM (WDjG6)
77 I have an in-law, a white person, publicly declaim that she was tired of white people.
Sure thing, dearie.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 06, 2025 12:26 PM (xG4kz)
78
" ... we do not need another oppressor-oppressed dialectic at this time. "
and yet here we are.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 12:27 PM (Cjt/F)
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72 I did read how South American Indians developed a kind of living soil made from burnt plant and animal matter, plus pottery shards and of course poop from various sources, that they would use in farming plots since the soil of the jungles was, oddly enough, so deficient.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
Heavy rains tend to wash out the key ingredients of biomass. Even in the US, many areas of primeval forests actually had a thin layer of fertile soil over rocky or clay soils that needed biomass to become fertile for crops. That decline in soil fertility from continuous crop cultivation and erosion of the humus was in part drove Western expansion from the Eastern colonies by farmers.
A few wise farmers, like George Washington did crop rotations, allowing animals to graze the stubble and poop, and other practices to keep the soil fertile but most simply sold up back east to buy new fresh land in the West.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:28 PM (WDjG6)
80
Tim Pool claims his house was shot at by an unknown gunman who approached his property in a vehicle.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 06, 2025 12:30 PM (Y1sOo)
81
Eris, the Amazon Indians are descended from Polynesian and Australia. They are the ones that knew how to enrich sandy soil. DNA has confirmed the Kon Tiki story.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 06, 2025 12:31 PM (NBPRu)
82"Burying a fish at the base of each corn plant?"
We all seemed to have learned that in 5th grade. Probably urban legend. If they had that many fish, they should have eaten the fish rather than the possible ear of corn months later.
I always assumed they just picked up dead and rotting fish on the shore.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:33 PM (Riz8t)
83
And, yea, Walz and many MN state/federal politicos are in on it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:50 AM (NwnyJ)
Tim Walz reminds me of that episode where the retarded kid shows Archie Bunker he had the blade in backwards while planing the bathroom door and no little crinkles were coming out.
Posted by: Meathead at December 06, 2025 12:35 PM (R/m4+)
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18 Saw but a long trailer on Ken Burns Propaganda 6 part miniseries. But watched a couple hours of videos taking down Ken's Propaganda miniseries.
Actually best wasn't as much as taking apart as what Ken's Propaganda didn't say. The synopsis the video said was it was about the war, not the Revolution. Besides all the Propaganda filled war, was about nothing the Revolution was about. Nothing hardly on the Constitution they fought for, the Bill of Rights they fought for. Just a lot of what Ken wanted it to be for which wasn't historically correct.
I might be able to find that video but can't be sure to find it.
Posted by: Skip
If you are interested in real history, one of the more interesting collections of Revolutionary War original documents is one of ministerial sermons that were recorded and passed around.
Here is a link to a general discussion of Revolution as seen from the pulpit.
https://tinyurl.com/yw77cncr
Link goes to Academia website. Article is about 46 pages.
Online Library of Liberty from the Liberty Fund has a two volume compliation of ministerial sermons about the Revolution and precursor events to it.
https://tinyurl.com/2vfpwzww
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:36 PM (WDjG6)
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77
I have an in-law, a white person, publicly declaim that she was tired of white people.
Sure thing, dearie.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:
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I suppose it would be rude to suggest that Canada has a solution for that issue.
Being direct, I would probably just mention that bigotry is pernicious even if you think badly of yourself. Actions matter more than color.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:38 PM (WDjG6)
86
This is a timely thread - but I have nothing optimistic to say about it. I will note ... take a look at Fox News right now. Number One article ? A puff piece about Little Mogadishu.
What do I think - not that you care ? We've hit critical mass here. Regardless of what IronGrampa says - we collectively are going to give this country away. Partly as a rejection of nationalism, partly as a pursuit of the quarterly-profit capitalism that prevails here, but mostly as a rejection of anything remotely resembling a collective treatment of groups - commonly called racism or stereotyping.
That thought process, before certain folks start howling, didn't begin with Gen Z. It was taught in public schools to all ages in the 80s. Gen Z wasn't doing the teaching 40 years ago. No more than Millennials made their own participation trophies.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 12:39 PM (k2Vk4)
87One of the most thorough eviscerations of FDR and his WWII performance is in Fleming's The New Dealer's War book.
I read that one recently and it was excellent. I'm currently reading "The New Deal's War on the Bill of Rights: The Untold Story of FDR's Concentration Camps, Censorship, and Mass Surveillance" by David T. Beito. As if I needed another reason to hate FDR.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
88One of the most thorough eviscerations of FDR and his WWII performance is in Fleming's The New Dealer's War book.
Or just read anything - pretty much anything - late by Morgenthau.
FDR doesn't reside on my Mt. Rushmore of Presidential Pricks for nothing.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 12:44 PM (k2Vk4)
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78 " ... we do not need another oppressor-oppressed dialectic at this time. "
and yet here we are.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
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They do it for power and to raise their social status over others. I call it bullshit. And most normal people of any race don't try to pull that shit. It is almost wholly the conceit of overeducated and maleducated twits that are trying to compete among other perceived opponents in their social class for personal benefit.
History periodically records such idiotic enthusiasms among the perceived elite classes such as iconoclasm, witchcraft, or traditional economic based Marxism. All bullshit and designed to make the bien pensants think they are better than others in society because their shit doesn't stink.
1776's line in the song about the triangular trade comes to mind, "who stinketh the most!" illustrating hypocrisy.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:45 PM (WDjG6)
90
Thx K.T.
Liked Burns Civil War largely because of Shelby Foote. Also because Ashokan Farewell is written by people from my county and the Ashokan Resovoir is about 12 m from my house.
His Baseball series kind of sucked.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2025 12:45 PM (bfwj/)
91
My people buried a penguin at base of every corn plant, which led to mass starvation and the end of the tribe. Except for me.
Posted by: Heap Big Lizzy Warren at December 06, 2025 12:45 PM (vFG9F)
92
I'm going to pick up Rick Atkinson's second book on his Revolutionary War trilogy. It includes the burning of my city . The first book was good
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2025 12:47 PM (bfwj/)
93
A six tribes of savages ocracy if you can keep it.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 06, 2025 12:47 PM (H12NW)
Posted by: Heap Big Lizzy Warren at December 06, 2025 12:48 PM (vFG9F)
96
He did one documentary on the African Space Program.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 06, 2025 12:49 PM (H12NW)
97
Have not watched this series. My sister loved it, so I assume that it was leftist revisionism with musket volley sound effects.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 12:49 PM (R86kT)
98 Oops. We call it maze.
Posted by: Heap Big Lizzy Warren
That's where you get lost.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 12:50 PM (pkeXY)
99
The American Revolution started a little too early. We let some trouble makers drag us into the war early.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 06, 2025 12:50 PM (H12NW)
100 The American Revolution started a little too early. We let some trouble makers drag us into the war early.
Probably Ukraine.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:52 PM (Riz8t)
101
Or just read anything - pretty much anything - late by Morgenthau.
FDR doesn't reside on my Mt. Rushmore of Presidential Pricks for nothing.
Posted by: The Slow Decline
What I think was unique about Fleming is in the foreword where he admits that he was a FDR fan in part due to the FDR saved Democracy trope. Fleming spent much of his career investigating the Revolutionary War and its aftermath but not much on more recent history. So he kind of just went with the flow of his generation (he died in his 90's fairly recently (1927-2017) and so did not seriously consider FDR as a historical figure until quite late in his career. That Man, by confidant and later Scotus Justice Robert Jackson is also not a flattering portrayal of the man whether Jackson realized it or not.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:52 PM (WDjG6)
102
"At the time, the Iroquois didn't have a written language."
Nor wheels.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 12:52 PM (W7XSX)
103
Fox News: Somalis are just like all immigrants guyzzzz.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2025 12:54 PM (wrRTB)
The comment below clearly outlines what we have lost. (Thanks whig)
"Denialism of accepted historical explanations backed by documented original sources and derivative secondary ones and archaeological evidence became the norm."
Now, how do we return to any accepted historical explanations? Trust in any historical claims has been destroyed. Wasn't there a quote that came out of communist Russia along the lines of "the present we know, it is the past that keeps changing"?
Our country's history should be a shared heritage, but is now fractured by competing views. It is difficult for me not to be discouraged when trying to see a way forward.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 06, 2025 12:55 PM (La8zG)
105
Ken Burns no longer has Shelby Foote to hold up the series and it clearly shows. He should do what he really wants to do and that's Black History
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 06, 2025 12:56 PM (FCrpy)
106
John Adams:"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." It is inadequate for savages from another culture, especially those who have no respect for Euro-American traditions
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 06, 2025 12:56 PM (tyDOg)
107
Roundheads were the hot heads. Oddly. It was the American Anglicans that won the Rebellion.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 06, 2025 12:57 PM (NBPRu)
108
Yet Shelby had a plagiarism hanging over his head and somehow I decided never to read any of his books.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:57 PM (Ia/+0)
109
If Netflix does a Washington movie he'll be black and gay. They'll get Jussie Smollett to play the part.
Posted by: Aren't you that faggot nagger from Mt. Vernon? at December 06, 2025 12:58 PM (TbWk/)
110Academia got into thing where the latest fad became a contest to see how outrageous one could be in assertions rather than the actual and rather dull accumulation of knowledge.
Several years ago Biblical Archaeology ran something from some nutcase about how Adam’s rib should actually be translated as Adam’s penis.
In unrelated news, this appeared shortly before I let my subscription lapse.
111Yet Shelby had a plagiarism hanging over his head and somehow I decided never to read any of his books.
AI:
While
Shelby Foote himself wasn't accused of plagiarism, his letters and personal life were central to a major plagiarism controversy involving Wallace Stegner's Pulitzer-winning novel Angle of Repose (1971), where Stegner heavily used Foote's (and his wife Mary Hallock Foote's) unpublished letters without full attribution, sparking debates on fair use, appropriation, and literary ethics that continue today, with critics calling it literary theft while others defended it as creating authentic depth
I think you can read Shelby Foote in peace.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:58 PM (Riz8t)
112
His Baseball series kind of sucked.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Heroes and Villians bullshit, most documentaries are actually propaganda disguised as information. Using tricks of the trade, a documentarian can easily omit conflicting stories and evidence, manipulate emotions at the lizard brain level through images and music, and choose which features to highlight and which to downplay.
So Burns made Ty Cobb a monster which was a gross overstatement for example while making other not so nice players into saints.
Documentaries that feature panels of experts can be a bit better but often books and original sources are far better in information presentment, more recognizant of nuance, and more dense in actual information than what is put into a documentary.
Harder to manipulate emotions through printed matter than by storytelling with music and images. Easier for most to spot tricks in printed matter by going back to the specific page than rewinding to 32:17 on the tape to replay something unfair, distorted, or downright a lie.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (WDjG6)
113
Ken Burns has always been a Leftist, and the difference between his Civil War documentary and his American Revolution documentary is reflective of the journey made by the Left over the last four decades. Leftists have become increasingly Marxist, totalitarian, and now hate the U.S., and they admit it. Leftists have gone off the rails. That was not generally the situation in 1990 when Burns did his Civil War documentary.
Posted by: Ralph at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (8WZD4)
114
Putting on YouTube see VDH has a take down on Ken Burns Propaganda miniseries
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (Ia/+0)
115
As if I needed another reason to hate FDR.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 12:42 PM (Riz8t)
FDR should have been dug up and placed in the docket at Nuremberg alongside Goering and Dr. Gurgles.
Posted by: FDR was a communist and War Criminal at December 06, 2025 12:59 PM (R/m4+)
116What I think was unique about Fleming is in the foreword where he admits that he was a FDR fan in part due to the FDR saved Democracy trope.
Interesting.
I've done - like I always do - my own reading on FDR. And Lincoln. And Nixon. And on and on.
I decided, at least by my 30s, that FDR was much more Communist than Hitler. Morgenthau's writings told the tail. Good ol' FDR wanted to convert the entire war effort to everyone collecting their paycheck from the Fed. FDR had to be talked down from simply Nationalizing entire "critical corporations". Even Hitler never considered these things.
On these simple number-lines of how to look at WW II ? We were to the Right of the Soviets but Left of the Nazis when it came to Economic Freedom.
So, of course, two generations deified the guy and statues and schools were built in his name. FDR was a tyrant.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:00 PM (k2Vk4)
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 01:00 PM (jc0TO)
118
I cannot tell a lie. Two white men in King George III hats forced me to chop down the cherry tree. Then they wrapped a noose around my neck, poured a solution of ashen lye upon me, shouted "THIS IS RED COAT COUNTRY" and ran away.
Posted by: George Faggington at December 06, 2025 01:01 PM (TbWk/)
119Katy Perry did win a lawsuit against an aging veteran to get his mansion.
Stay classy Katy.
Meh. The veteran sold the property to Perry and then tried to back out of the deal. His defense was that he didn't know what he was signing.
This was probably the correct legal result, although Perry might wonder whether the hit to her reputation was worth the money.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 01:01 PM (8DR9B)
120
Several years ago Biblical Archaeology ran something from some nutcase about how Adam’s rib should actually be translated as Adam’s penis.
In unrelated news, this appeared shortly before I let my subscription lapse.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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Yep. And opposite the truth, increasingly academic presentations as a discussant meant that any criticism became politically charged as whitey putting POC down or some other stupid bullshit. Simple epistemology observations of shoddy research became verboten. Even when it was kindly packaged as "what make you think this 'finding' is generalizable beyond your classroom".
Millennials ruined academia. And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:05 PM (WDjG6)
121
NG Andrew Wolfe I take it still clings onto life, one can only hope he recovers fully but it will be a very long road I guess
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:05 PM (Ia/+0)
122
KT,
Thanks for including the Voices of Music video using period correct instruments and original score. Bach and Vivaldi played like that is different, so much better and richer than modern versions. The other video is a talented burlesque with the foot stomping.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 01:05 PM (yTvNw)
123I cannot tell a lie. Two white men in King George III hats forced me to chop down the cherry tree.
But you could exceed orders - by quite a bit - and if you didn't start the French and Indian war by yourself ? Well, you at least got in the Team Photo.
Ol' George was politically ambitious right out the gate. It really is amazing that he didn't try to hold onto power more than two terms. Because George liked power.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:06 PM (k2Vk4)
124
107 Roundheads were the hot heads. Oddly. It was the American Anglicans that won the Rebellion.
Posted by: Pudinhead
Charlie Brown was a Roundhead.
No, on second thought, he was a Blockhead.
Posted by: Lucy Van Pelt at December 06, 2025 01:06 PM (oftw2)
125
I decided, at least by my 30s, that FDR was much more Communist than Hitler. Morgenthau's writings told the tail. Good ol' FDR wanted to convert the entire war effort to everyone collecting their paycheck from the Fed. FDR had to be talked down from simply Nationalizing entire "critical corporations". Even Hitler never considered these things.
On these simple number-lines of how to look at WW II ? We were to the Right of the Soviets but Left of the Nazis when it came to Economic Freedom.
So, of course, two generations deified the guy and statues and schools were built in his name. FDR was a tyrant.
Posted by: The Slow Decline
Not much to disagree. FDR was a collectivist/bureaucrat enabler just like Woodrow Wilson who FDR served in his cabinet.
Al Smith, FDR's predecessor as NY governor came to recognize that in FDR and his apparatchiks.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:07 PM (WDjG6)
126
And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated.
The takeover of the educational system is complete.
Homeschool your children.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 06, 2025 01:08 PM (La8zG)
127
Similar to the MN whistleblowers, in Chicago, back in the day, Mike Royko (newspaper columnist and sometime muckraker) would get a LOT of info about misbehaving politicians, though his sources were never called whistleblowers. He was an old-school reporter who had a lot of contacts in city & county government. Sadly, as his contacts retired/left govt employment, he did less of that and more social commentary. He was very good at his trade. His bio of Mayor Richard J Daley,Boss, was a masterpiece - gave Daley credit for a lot (especially that he was never a grifter), but dragged the hell out of him for political shenanigans.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS)
128
He was very good at his trade. His bio of Mayor Richard J Daley,Boss, was a masterpiece - gave Daley credit for a lot (especially that he was never a grifter), but dragged the hell out of him for political shenanigans.
Posted by: Nazdar
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I agree. It also helped that Royko was at the Sun Times which was the scrappy underdog at the time to the Chicago Tribune. Royko was given much more latitude to go after the business is business sorts in City Hall.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:11 PM (WDjG6)
129And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated.
“This very obvious fact—that each generation is taught by an earlier generation—must be kept very firmly in mind… The moment we forget this we begin to talk nonsense about education.”—C. S. Lewis, On the Transmission of Christianity
130A few wise farmers, like George Washington did crop rotations, allowing animals to graze the stubble and poop, and other practices to keep the soil fertile but most simply sold up back east to buy new fresh land in the West.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 12:28 PM (WDjG6)
Whig, what Eris is talking about is Terra Preta, which is a carbon rich soil that the Amazonian cultures made through creating middens in their farm lands. They make them to this day. It is a combination of charcoal and food prep waste, as well as left overs and whatever else. These were not slash and burn farmers
The laetrite soils of the jungle have high recycling of minerals and nutrients, what the micro-life doesn't take the roots of the trees will take and the remainder is washed off, like you say. The charcoal appears to absorb the nutrients, and hold it for the plants and micro-life to utilize at need. Some dark earths are "meters" thick, and still fertile in spite of the cultures that made them dying off in the 1500's.
The current organic fad of creating Terra Preta in your home garden is getting a lot of attention, and seems to have a serious value. It is a step up from crop rotation
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:12 PM (rbvCR)
131
I friend of mine recently bought a nice place. While in escrow, the seller want to bail because the value of the property went up.
He had to begin legal proceedings to make it happen.
It's not her fault. He signed a contract.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (W7XSX)
132
My view is in the aftermath of the Great Depression, Socialism was the big craze of the world. FDR was just as thrilled by it.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (Ia/+0)
133
The takeover of the educational system is complete.
Homeschool your children.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel
Only if you are capable and some people aren't by nature or inclination. It require careful curation of curriculum because a lot of that is infected wokist tripe as well. If one is inclined to do that, reaching out to networks that have already resolved some of these issues among parent educators is very useful.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (WDjG6)
Why does this series seem different from, say, his Civil War epic?
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It seems different because people have only been taught one narrative on the Civil War. Burns 'epic' on the Civil War is as big a crock of shit as his 'epic' on the Revolution.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:14 PM (04Glf)
My ancestors sold out in SC when the soil was depleted and moved west for free land in Alabama.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (W7XSX)
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129 And Colleges of Education ruined millennials before that because k12 ideology from teachers from these education mills in the 70's and 80's preceded millennials being maleducated.
“This very obvious fact—that each generation is taught by an earlier generation—must be kept very firmly in mind… The moment we forget this we begin to talk nonsense about education.”—C. S. Lewis, On the Transmission of Christianity
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 01:12 PM (EXyHK)
Even in the early stone ages, when Boomers were going to college, radicalism was overtly taking over the academy, and the education majors were full-on retards. We've been on this downward trajectory for some time.
Posted by: The seeds were planted even earlier at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (TbWk/)
His stories about learning to be a reporter at Chicago’s City News Bureau make it sound almost like a Chinese Opera training school but for journalists.
138FDR was a collectivist/bureaucrat enabler just like Woodrow Wilson who FDR served in his cabinet.
Which is ironic. At least as far as I've read - FDR was one of the first wave of Industrial Candidates. Big funding from J.P. Morgan, J.D. Rockefeller, and Henry Ford.
Its odd how it always works like this, ain't it ? Wall Street loved Obama.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (k2Vk4)
139
I have an in-law, a white person, publicly declaim that she was tired of white people.
Sure thing, dearie.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 06, 2025 12:26 PM (xG4kz
Did you tell her that she should kill herself to relieve her anguish? I often offer helpful advice to poor misguided souls such as herself. With age comes an absence of mouth filters.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (5xuJ/)
140
I looked up Howard Zinn and found out his shitty book is considered "great."
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:15 PM (W7XSX)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:16 PM (W7XSX)
142“This very obvious fact—that each generation is taught by an earlier generation—must be kept very firmly in mind… The moment we forget this we begin to talk nonsense about education.”—C. S. Lewis, On the Transmission of Christianity
Everyone can keep their G.K. Chesterston. Seriously. C.S. Lewis understood how things work. G.K. loudly told you how he wished it did.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (k2Vk4)
143
I think Royko was at the Daily News, the afternoon paper. Moved to the Tribune when the Daily News shut down. 1981?
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (R86kT)
144Only if you are capable and some people aren't by nature or inclination.
At this point, I disagree. Even the most incapable parent is going to provide a better education than most schools do. Paraphrasing what Jefferson said about newspapers, if the only thing a parent does is teach nothing to their children, their kids will still be more informed than public school kids who are taught lies.
145
The Burns documentary went as I expected: anything but good white people. The content was so basic and limited with almost no mention of the philosophical underpinnings. The music couldn't compare to Ashokan Farewell. The 1776 versions of the Ballou letter which exist but weren't used lessened the personal emotional context. And there was no equivalent to Shelby Foote providing insight and humor. The commenters were knowledgeable but not lively.
Glad I didn't waste too much time with the whole series.
Posted by: JTB at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (yTvNw)
146
Also, for tobacco, the farmers in the South tended to do a form of slash and burn, always expanding as they needed more land that was not exhausted. In New England (and later in the South) more scientific methods of crop rotation, fallow, and amending in a way that would have made the original Jethro Tull proud.
it is both from the background of the different farmers, and the crops and economics of the regions. You farm wheat and corn differently from tobacco, in part because wheat and corn allowed smaller plots, and not requiring a latifundia to be economically viable
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:17 PM (rbvCR)
147
132 My view is in the aftermath of the Great Depression, Socialism was the big craze of the world. FDR was just as thrilled by it.
Posted by: Skip
I would include fascism under that monicker. Progressivism was essentially fascism with better pr in combining and managing industry and society by groups rather than individualism. The later pluralism movement (government is the arena and referee where interest groups duke it out) can be shown as derivative of fascist emphasis on the fasces (different strands of society) being welded together by the state in order to promote and enforce whatever the top honcho/ruling counsel felt was in the interest of the state.
In reality, the managerial class because of information control often ran the place on a day to day basis whether in corporations, government, or ngos. Burns, the Managerial Revolution, was written at the height of WWII with its insights over institutions like the OPM.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (WDjG6)
148
Only if you are capable and some people aren't by nature or inclination. It require careful curation of curriculum because a lot of that is infected wokist tripe as well. If one is inclined to do that, reaching out to networks that have already resolved some of these issues among parent educators is very useful.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:13 PM (WDjG6)
And you have to be of the right temperament. If you are impatient or snap easily, don't do it. Or you'll find yourself screaming and hitting your kids for not understanding Algebra II fast enough. Or at a less extreme end burning out.
Posted by: You have to be very self-controlled and self-aware at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/)
149
Tisquantum learned the technique of burying a bit of fish with the corn seed from continental Europeans while a slave in Spain before escaping to England and eventually returning to Massachusetts. The fish technique was not a local Indian custom. It is a Spanish technique.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (xqL5c)
“He says, ‘Neither in religion nor morality, my friend, lie the hopes of the race, but in education.’ This, clearly expressed, means, ‘We cannot decide what is good, but let us give it to our children.’”—G.K. Chesterton, Heretics
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149 Tisquantum learned the technique of burying a bit of fish with the corn seed from continental Europeans while a slave in Spain before escaping to England and eventually returning to Massachusetts. The fish technique was not a local Indian custom. It is a Spanish technique.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 06, 2025 01:18 PM (xqL5c)
He was also known as Squatto because he taught them how to build latrines.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (uWKK8)
153
It's funny not funny that WW2 started in part because of FDR's meddling in China to protect American investments there and Chamberpot guaranteeing Poland's independence yet by 1949 both were communist.
Ken Burns outta do a series.
Posted by: And Yet at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (R/m4+)
154
The New Deal was all about effing the little guys like the Schecter brothers.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (W7XSX)
155
143 I think Royko was at the Daily News, the afternoon paper. Moved to the Tribune when the Daily News shut down. 1981?
Posted by: Ted Torgerson
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You would be right that he started at the Daily News which folded about 1970 and then to the allied Sun Times until Rupert Murdoch purchased it in the 80's and then to Tribune.
Daily News was before my time really and I read Royko's syndicated columns before I read his books.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:20 PM (WDjG6)
George refused the kingship which was suggested because he had no legitimate children. Don't know if he had illegitimate children, but neither they nor his stepchildren would have been acceptable successors. He retired, albeit temporarily, to private life after the war and served as President for a *limited* period to try to model how that should work.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:22 PM (NcvvS)
158
dad said that Grandpa buried fish in the garden, and in an allotment he rented during the war for a a victory garden. Dad also said Grandpa only did it once because it stank to high heaven.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:23 PM (rbvCR)
159
Fleming admits he began the project being favorable toward FDR and his legacy but the historical evidence he uncovered of FDR's nasty/vicious personality and his minions ideology over practicality changed his mind when writing the book.
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Sounds like the guy who wrote a biography of LBJ. Caro?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025 01:23 PM (0cOaq)
Well, its another facet in the never-ending trolling by the Left. Continuously calling Conservatives racists, H8tr's, Fascists, Nazis, then introduce a bullsh*t series on the founding fathers and suddenly its seems much more OK to revolt against authority. How can you not when armed with the righteous cause of "democratic socialism"?
Well, bring it assholes. Come to my little town and let's dance.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 01:24 PM (2WIwB)
161
Pacos first came over to this country as indentured servants in the early 18th century from England (probably stole some spoons or a cow or something). My ancestor fought against the British and was awarded a parcel of land after the Revolutionary War concluded. You can bet the old boy knew a thing or two about oppression and freedom, and the big difference between the two.
Posted by: Paco at December 06, 2025 01:25 PM (mADJX)
162
My mom bought a thing called "fish emulsion" for her flowers. A little goes a long way.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:26 PM (W7XSX)
163
Ken Burns, Civil War, epic
Ken Burns, Revolution, epic
The Gell-Mann amnesia effect is a cognitive bias where people recognize inaccuracies in media reports about topics they know well but still trust the media on subjects they are less familiar with.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:26 PM (04Glf)
164
And you have to be of the right temperament. If you are impatient or snap easily, don't do it. Or you'll find yourself screaming and hitting your kids for not understanding Algebra II fast enough. Or at a less extreme end burning out.
Posted by: You have to be very self-controlled and self-aware
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Good points. Same criteria as those planning on teaching as a career.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (WDjG6)
165
The worldview of the left can be mostly summed up with the phrase 'I hate you, Dad!'.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (jc0TO)
166
It's kind of like sardines. Nobody wants them. But Bobby Flay puts them in his Sprimp and Grits and never loses.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (W7XSX)
167It's funny not funny that WW2 started in part because of FDR's meddling in China to protect American investments there and Chamberpot guaranteeing Poland's independence yet by 1949 both were communist.
WW II was guaranteed when the Treaty of Versailles was signed to send both teams to the locker-room at the end of WW I. A twenty year armistice. A long half-time.
No country would have lived under those terms without force to make them do so. No sane victor without the means to muster such force, long term, would have considered it.
So, of course, Wilson waded our asses in to tip the balance and then sign such a moronic plan.
Wilson is also on my Mt. Rushmore of Presidential Pricks. FDR, Lincoln, and Wilson. Spot Number Four is still up for grabs.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (k2Vk4)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (W7XSX)
169Several years ago Biblical Archaeology ran something from some nutcase about how Adam’s rib should actually be translated as Adam’s penis.
In unrelated news, this appeared shortly before I let my subscription lapse.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 06, 2025 12:58 PM (EXyHK)
Ah the "Baculum theory". It argues that parts of Genesis is a "just so" story that has no parallel that anyone has presented, based on the observation that Humans are the only mammal without a baculum, however it misses that ungulates like horses, cattle and sheep also lack them.
Possibly one of the more exciting unprovable thesis to come out of modern maundering.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (rbvCR)
170105 Ken Burns no longer has Shelby Foote to hold up the series and it clearly shows. He should do what he really wants to do and that's Black History - Patrick from Ohio
Maybe he'd like to start with contemporary history in the Minneapolis area. No? Well, just an idea...
Posted by: Paco at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (mADJX)
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161 Pacos first came over to this country as indentured servants
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Both of Buddy's fore-parents came to the rebuilding of Jamestown as indentured servants.
They've got stories.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:29 PM (04Glf)
172
Sounds like the guy who wrote a biography of LBJ. Caro?
Posted by: Captain Obvious
Yes. Caro took a turn when he documented LBJ's rise to power in his first volume. Believe by his second volume research, LBJ's family and supporters were upset by the first one and tried to hinder his ability to access LBJ's donated papers and his presidential library.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (WDjG6)
173
Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
Haven't read comments yet, so I'm sure others have said this earlier and better.
Trump needs to get a real American to do a quick revolution series telling the background of the whole idea. Someone who doesn't use this platform to denigrate the country and founders, but celebrates what they did. Our revolution inspired others, just like the French one, but ours didn't devolve into savagery. We need to know why, not that the founders were imperfect.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (W7XSX)
175My mom bought a thing called "fish emulsion" for her flowers. A little goes a long way.
Fish emulsion is the last stop for fish that aren't good enough to use for lutefisk.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (8DR9B)
176
>>It also helped that Royko was at the Sun Times
whig, before that, he was at the Daily News, which was the Field family's afternoon paper, and the one Dad brought home. Was reading him before hitting double-digit age; didn't get some things, but sure got a lot. He moved to the Sun-Times when the Daily News shut down ('74?) and the S-T did a morning & afternoon edition.
Both the Sun-Times & the Tribune killed their afternoon editions a few years later; hell, the Trib bought the Chicago American and made it the Chicago Today, for a while.
The real grin is that Royko moved to the Tribune when Rupert Murdoch bought the Field publications, because, while he had sworn that he would never work for the Trib, he loathed Murdoch more. There's a story (too lazy to look up) that Royko rode an elevator in the S-T building with one of the Field heirs right after the sale was announced and blasted him practically out of the elevator.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:32 PM (NcvvS)
177
"The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist. The The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do."
As I've said before (and I trust others have said as well), there should never have been a J6 rally - especially if the J5 pipe bombs were discovered when they should have been. The whole Capitol complex should have been shut down due to a bomb investigation, instead of allowing any group of people to congregate around discovered and undiscovered explosive devices.
The government let the bombs be planted, allowed the demonstrations to take place in spite of those bombs being planted, and conspired to railroad innocent protestors and derail the possibility of a second Trump term - either in 2021 or today.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 01:34 PM (0CU3H)
178174 Pacos first came over to this country as indentured servants
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Both of Buddy's fore-parents came to the rebuilding of Jamestown as indentured servants.
They've got stories. - Braenyard
Cherish them and pass them on. I have few details, unfortunately, about the First Paco in America. Great Aunt Murdy commissioned a genuine genealogical history probably before I was born, and she never let anybody read it. Some of the basic info got out, though, such as that indentured servant business. I take it that my people were not exactly in line for the throne.
Posted by: Paco at December 06, 2025 01:34 PM (mADJX)
I've got 3-4 of Royko's books and love them for the stories of learning his trade.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:35 PM (NcvvS)
180
From what I understand, lutefisk would be better used as fertilizer.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (W7XSX)
181Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
No. Honestly ? No.
Because there's a reason the Left - under Obama - systematically erased every Civil War name and monument. Why did they do that ?
Because they wanted to erase the idea of organized disobedience. Because they had the idea that they had a lock on authority. And now ? They love the idea of disobedience.
There is no message that will work - unless you teach the idea of whites vs. whites vs. natives. Which will not play with the young 'uns. Or we can go State's Rights. North-East Republicans will hate that.
Or we can get into the real lives of the "Founders". They were not Saints or Deities. That'll work well.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (k2Vk4)
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173 Got any better ideas for recognizing the American Revolution as an important anniversary approaches?
Haven't read comments yet, so I'm sure others have said this earlier and better.
Trump needs to get a real American to do a quick revolution series telling the background of the whole idea. Someone who doesn't use this platform to denigrate the country and founders, but celebrates what they did. Our revolution inspired others, just like the French one, but ours didn't devolve into savagery. We need to know why, not that the founders were imperfect.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 06, 2025 01:31 PM (uQesX)
The White House has put out a series of videos on YouTube highlighting individual Revolutionary figures - both well-known and unknown. It's pretty good, and it's short as well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (0CU3H)
183
BTU VS Texas Tech... some crazy plays!
!!!!!GUNS UP!!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at December 06, 2025 01:37 PM (VCgbV)
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175 When Dad and I would go bank fishing, he kept carp and other bottom feeders for his miserable garden. A friend's Dad, a guy about my age, keeps carp and smokes them. It took him a few tries, but what comes out now is pretty good.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 06, 2025 01:38 PM (gm9Sb)
187
Some of the basic info got out, though, such as that indentured servant business. I take it that my people were not exactly in line for the throne.
Posted by: Paco
That is too bad. We were the Kings, but then we abdicated the Throne.
Posted by: The Schmenge Brothers at December 06, 2025 01:40 PM (oftw2)
188
>>I think Royko was at the Daily News, the afternoon paper. Moved to the Tribune when the Daily News shut down. 1981?
Ted, Daily News shut down in '78, and I think Field stopped producing an afternoon paper then. Tribune killed Chicago Today and produced an afternoon edition for a few years - remember because delivered afternoon Chicago papers from 1973-1975 before turned 29.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 06, 2025 01:41 PM (NcvvS)
189
I went out on a half-day boat out of San Diego. We caught a lot of mackerel. Nobody wants the mackerel, but this old guy. He takes all we want to give him.
He was old man Ghio. Portugese. They used the mackerel to make fish stock at the Anthony's restaurants in San Diego.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (W7XSX)
190Our revolution inspired others, just like the French one, but ours didn't devolve into savagery.
Good Grief.
Prisoners kept in cages (the Brits did that in Boston). Buildings "fired" - which meant those inside burnt alive.
Do you understand that, in that Revolution, men lined up against other men to kill them ? And if they missed at close range, there was always the bayonet or the hatchet ?
War IS savagery. By definition.
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (k2Vk4)
191
The bomb story stinks. They traced him buying one piece of pipe at Home Depot a year apart from buying another piece at Lowes and the other few pieces at different times (months or years apart) and places.
They can do this but they can't find a killer? They can't trace back on the Trump shooter or Las Vegas or two hundred other things that are strung together much better than a piece of pipe here and a piece of pipe there. He may have placed the bombs but the whole story is a crock.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:42 PM (04Glf)
192From what I understand, lutefisk would be better used as fertilizer.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:36 PM (W7XSX)
Lutefisk has too much lye in it for fertilizer
You can make you own fish emulsion by dumping those hagfish, bullheads, fish guts and heads in a barrel, topping with water and letting it rot down for a summer. That is what it is, basically. Some people advise stirring it from time to time, and others say it is best to strain the bones out before use.
By the way, if you were to put in lots of salt, you could make fish sauce or garum instead, but you probably want to clean the barrel well, first.
"Makes your plants grow tall - either from the fertilizer, or because they are trying to get away from the stink"
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 01:44 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 01:46 PM (W7XSX)
195
The worldview of the left can be mostly summed up with the phrase 'I hate you, Dad!'.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 01:27 PM (jc0TO)
Heh. The Coal Mining sketch by Monty Python really does hit the nail.
'Coal minings a wonderful thing, Father!'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 06, 2025 01:48 PM (RE5em)
196
One can only think the Eff Bee Eye doesn't see what they don't want to see
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 01:52 PM (Ia/+0)
197
Ken Burns came to my local high school to talk to students about the documentary, as I live in a Massachusetts town that saw early action in the Revolution. No word on whether John Locke or the Iroquois were more influential to Franklin.
Posted by: Lex at December 06, 2025 01:54 PM (y4H1r)
198
The real grin is that Royko moved to the Tribune when Rupert Murdoch bought the Field publications, because, while he had sworn that he would never work for the Trib, he loathed Murdoch more. There's a story (too lazy to look up) that Royko rode an elevator in the S-T building with one of the Field heirs right after the sale was announced and blasted him practically out of the elevator.
Posted by: Nazdar
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Thanks for the true story. Mine was garbled because I read his syndicated column in the local rag, not the original papers where they were first published.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 01:57 PM (WDjG6)
199The worldview of the left can be mostly summed up with the phrase 'I hate you, Dad!'.
Yeah. And the worldview of the right is mostly "I forgive you, Dad".
Posted by: The Slow Decline at December 06, 2025 01:57 PM (k2Vk4)
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I've very disappointed that Burns ignored the critical contributions by transgender people, without whom we would still be speaking the King's English.
Posted by: p-squared at December 06, 2025 01:58 PM (0prFs)
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 02:15 PM (jc0TO)
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Why Does Hollywood Hate the American Revolution?
https://tinyurl.com/bdhhs7ym
Posted by: Alex Holz at December 06, 2025 02:29 PM (rbKtB)
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and Texas Tech goes up two TDs late to try and get the CFP committee out of a cleft stick of their own cutting.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 06, 2025 02:31 PM (jc0TO)
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The notion that the Founders, and Enlightenment Europeans in general, got a lot of their ideal from observing the loosely democratic tribal confederations and decision-making processes among North American Indians is popularized in "The Dawn of Everything (2021) by Graeber and Wengrow. I'll bet Burns has read it. I found it interesting, but don't have enough subject matter knowledge to know if it's got a solid foundation or relies primarily on cherry-picked and anecdotal evidence.
Posted by: Bryan at December 06, 2025 02:42 PM (SCSMo)
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As I posted a review of a video up top, the Leftists H8 the country so no Revolutionary War movie about why their was a war will ever be made.
Make a move on the Constitution and you will have one about the Revolution.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 02:58 PM (Ia/+0)
211The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist.
Mike Benz pointed out this morning that in the actual aftermath of J5/J6 the FBI released a statement pointing out the rare fancy Nikes the bomber was wearing and then did nothing to track them down. I would assume that was a signal to the bomber to stop wearing them.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 06, 2025 03:04 PM (QZThv)
Posted by: lin-duh at December 06, 2025 03:24 PM (VCgbV)
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The FBI apprehended the J6 pipe bomber, something the Biden FBI had somehow been unable to do. Weirdly, he turned out to be a left-wing extremist.
Mike Benz pointed out this morning that in the actual aftermath of J5/J6 the FBI released a statement pointing out the rare fancy Nikes the bomber was wearing and then did nothing to track them down. I would assume that was a signal to the bomber to stop wearing them.
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Yes. And once upon a time "independent journalists" would have seized on that tip and raced to identify the perp. It would have been quite the prize to have beat the FBI to the punch, and comparatively easy too since the Biden-era FBI wanted no part of solving this case.
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 03:36 PM (TN0g+)
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They tracked him down and when they found out he was black and gay and autistic, they buried it.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 04:37 PM (W7XSX)
Yes, but he also liked pussy, and decided to work on becoming more the literal Father of His Country as he grew older. I mean, nobody's gonna shoot the First President just because he tapped your old lady! Many would have seen it as an honor!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 06, 2025 05:14 PM (FpP3s)
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When I toured Alaska, our guide said all the green we saw in the bay where we were whale watching was because eagles ate salmon, dropped them in the bare rocks, and they created the biomass that allowed vegetation to begin forming and building.
I'm sure the Iroquois could figure out that same thing: plants like fish biomass. They don't understand the scientific WHY, nitrogen and all that, but they saw it works.
Also the three sisters thing, plant beans corn and squash together, does work. They have a symbiotic relationship. Agriculture in general is delayed gratification: I plant these seeds now, later I see a harvest. I plant a fish under my corn instead of just eating the fish now, my corn grows taller and bigger. And then I can use the corn to survive the winter.
It does scholars absolutely no credit to be honest about the Iriquois' planting prowess, and then go a step too far and say "the native Americans inspired the concept of democracy." It negates everything historically true, and makes them look like lazy woke fools. (Which they are, but for Pete's sake, don't PROVE it beyond all doubt!)
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 05:38 PM (gWBY1)
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Currently reading the excellent bio of John Adams (cleverly title "John Adams") by David McCullough. Franklin does not come out looking quite so "adorably quirky" as we'd been led to believe. Sort of a dick at times.
Posted by: VirginiaSmoker at December 07, 2025 03:54 AM (zwTY9)
The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival
Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Since it is the Christmas Season, classical tunes will be shelved until 2026 or whenever it happens. Before entering the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Minneapolis)
1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice.
3) Running with sharp objects will not be tolerated unless you have a note from a responsible adult.
4) Have a great weekend!
*****
AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List
Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.
Prayer Requests:
10/22 – Pennsyltucky requested prayers for his dad, who underwent cancer surgery on 10/21. Everything seems to have gone well (they’re confident they got it all!) but due to his age, his hospital stay and convalescence will be longer than usual. Dad is doing well, is awake and alert. A full recovery is anticipated but it will take a while. Thank you so much.
11/6 Update – Pennsyltucky’s dad is out of the hospital and is now convalescing at home with the aid of home care nurse visits. He’s not able to walk very well, having spent so long in a hospital bed, but he’s in good spirits and improving daily. Thanks for your prayers!
10/27 – Polliwog the ‘Ette asked for prayers for her youngest daughter, "LK", who needs prayers for safety and peace, and her best friend "C" for health and that stress not cause a flare up of psoriatic arthritis as they and another roommate work with the police and the landlord to have the 4th roommate "M" evicted because she is threatening them and making the living situation a nightmare. “M” is bipolar and medicating with alcohol. Prayers for her healing and that she find salvation from the self-destructive path she's on would also be appreciated.
11/8 Update – The situation still needs lots of prayer. LK sand C have been staying at a hotel to avoid M, who wants to fight whenever she sees them. M is supposed to move out the end of Dec. but that seems like a very long time when C still needs to attend class and keep her arthritis in check.
11/5 – Mary Poppins’ Practically Perfect Piercing said he could use a prayer or two. He has a pain in his head which, it seems, is occipital neuralgia. It’s not fatal, thank heavens, but is painful until a proper treatment course is settled upon. Many thanks.
11/12 Update – Pronouns corrected above.
11/6 - D sent an update on his wife Susan, and her battle with cancer. He sent his thanks to everyone for the prayers. They are helping and much appreciated. Susan had an infection which is being treated, but her sodium levels are bad again. She will be sent home soon, but is on restrictive fluids until this is cleared up. The good news is that she has gained some weight back and her voice is much stronger now. Thank you, and please keep up the prayers. They appreciate everyone!
11/20 Update – Susan is out of the hospital, after 2 weeks. For the first time in months, she doesn’t have any drainage tubes. Chemo is on hold for the next 2 weeks, to give her time to rest, recover, and gain some weight back. Thank you, everyone, for your prayers – please continue them!
11/7 – BarelyScaryMary requested prayers for a friend, RJ, who is having heart issues. She will likely get stents or a bypass soon. Prayers are needed for RJ’s recovery, and also that she is able and willing to make the lifestyle changes necessary for her health.
11/13 Update – Stents were not an option for RJ, so she needs a bypass. She is waiting for the surgery to be scheduled. She is apprehensive about the surgery and recovery. Prayers are also needed for BarelyScaryMary’s dad, who is also having heart problems. Her mom could use prayers, too, as she is watching her husband of 60 years decline.
11/8 – Dash my lace wings had an urgent request for prayers for a co-worker and friend who is hospitalized with sepsis. It is extremely resistant to antibiotics and has attached to the artificial heart valve she got less than a year ago. Her situation is tenuous.
11/15 Update – The co-worker is healing. She was released from the hospital and is on IV antibiotics for 6 weeks. Thank you for your prayers. We nearly lost her.
11/8 – Farmer Bob asked for prayers for his Uncle Richard’s MIL who passed away on 11/7, and for Richard’s wife Linda. Linda’s putting on a brave face and it was not unexpected, but it’s hard to lose your mother.
11/14 – Halfhand requested prayers for a sister whose husband recently passed away unexpectedly in his sleep. They had just upended their lives to move from California to Tennessee; now she is all alone.
11/15 – Smell the Glove asked for prayers for an 81 year-old aunt who has colon cancer. She is stopping chemo, since it’s not working and it’s tiring her out. Doctors will determine if any other treatment is proper.
11/29 Update – Thank you all for the prayers. The good Lord had another plan and the aunt passed away. She had taught at a Catholic school for over 20 years, raised 3 daughters and had 8 grandchildren. She also babysat Smell the Glove the first couple of years of life.
11/15 – Sponge posted an update on the “First lady”. She is doing OK from the surgery pain-wise, however it appears her compromised immune system from chemo is susceptible to viruses. She has been spiking a fever all weekend.
11/20 - Bluebell sent an update on grammie winger - good news! At her appointment, the doctor said her bloodwork is nearly perfect and her cancer cell count is dropping. She is in minimal pain. The chemo is working, thanks be to God! She will go back in 3 weeks for another round of chemo and then they will do a CT scan to see if she can have surgery to clean out the rest of the tumors. She is convinced – CONVINCED – that this is due in no small part to the treasured prayers of friends and family! They gave her weeks, and now she is looking at possible remission.
11/22 – Duke Lowell posted an update. He said that he is gradually starting to feel normal again, two months after his surgery. The main problem is that the effects of anesthesia are still suppressing his appetite.
11/22 – Commissar Hrothgar posted prayers for President Trump, to keep him safe from harm and may the many forces of evil arrayed against him and our country be made ineffective and come to naught.
11/22 – Oddbob requested prayers. He found out that his job is going away the end of December. They are a one-income family. He also requested prayers for another co-worker, who is in the same situation.
11/22 – Cosda sent an update on his wife’s condition. She started a year of immunotherapy in June for cancer. She is doing well with her treatments every three weeks, but her follow up dermatology scan found another mole with melanoma and 2 other abnormal and suspicious spots. She will be having more tissue removed from those areas for lab tests. Prayers are appreciated.
11/22 – The Walking Dude sent an update. We prayed for his mom in August, when she fell and broke her hip. She is 90 years old. She is still in the hospital but has been transferred to a better rehab run by the Masons. They are unsure if she will ever get out. Please pray for her recovery and return home.
11/24 – Bulg requested prayers for a neighbor who has cancer, and also prayers for his son and two of his friends, who are moving into a rental house in Arlington, VA on 11/28. Prayers for the 3 of them, that they may live together contentedly, and prayers for Bulg and his wife as they adjust to their son’s absence.
11/26 Update – The neighbor passed away on 11/24. Prayers are needed for the neighbor’s husband, Steve, as he grieves. They had no children.
11/29 – From about That Time asked for prayers after a lymphoma diagnosis. From about That Time has already begun chemo, and the kids and granddaughter had fun cutting off a ponytail and shaving hair in preparation.
12/1 – P received news that her 24 year old daughter has changed her name to a male name and had “top surgery”. P needs wisdom as to how to speak to her, and also how to speak with P’s other children, in a loving but honest way. Also, that God will use this to turn all their hearts back to Him.
12/3 – Teresa in Fort Worth posted an update. She had an MRI on 12/3, and will meet with the oncologist on 12/4, the surgeon on 12/8, and the surgery on 12/11. This is a good thing, because it looks like more tumors are starting to crop up in her liver. It doesn’t appear to have spread beyond there yet, thank goodness.
12/4 – E asked for prayers as she will be having surgery in two weeks. She is nervous, but everyone she has spoken with has nothing but good things to say about the surgeon, and she is looking forward to being on the other side of it. Please pray that all will go according to God’s will and that His name will be glorified.
For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.
2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:05 AM (Ia/+0)
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3) Running with sharp objects will not be tolerated unless you have a note from a responsible adult.
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I'm guessing that leaves out notes from the Horde...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 08:07 AM (NwnyJ)
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3) Running with sharp objects will not be tolerated unless you have a note from a responsible adult
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*wrestles PA mic away from grouch nurse*
"Paging Dr. Muldoon... please bring your scrip pad"
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 06, 2025 08:09 AM (t/66j)
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This morning is Pike Place market blend. Not quite as fresh roasted as I’d like though good. They must not move a lot of it. I purchased a brick of Bustelo for emergency bacckup, and a small pack of Bustelo freeze-dried. Put it on the shelf, it’s there when you need it. Freeze-dried crystals. They were zero-balance on Folger’s singles, thus illustrating the wisdom of holding back one of the 19 count boxes from the last purchase. I may die tomorrow, but not without coffee on hand.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 08:09 AM (Npcdm)
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Please add my FiL to the list. He went into the hospital this week for AFIB, congestive heart, and received two scents. He is home now, still short of breath, and has a long road ahead including the gamut of meds they gave him. As much as he vexes me, he is a kind-hearted man and a loving father.
As you may recall, my wife lost her Mom a few years back to brain cancer, which makes this even more difficult for her to bear during the holidays.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:09 AM (dK+Kv)
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Good morning again dear horde with thanks to mh and annie and you morons for praying
{grammie}
{TiFW}
Hiya JT
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 08:10 AM (LbMjz)
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I think Hitman: World of Assassination has officially jumped the shark.
Their latest update has a new mission called "Eminem v. Slim Shady."
And yes, Eminem himself is a part of this mission. He's trying to track down his evil twin, "Slim Shady," and put him down for good.
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Sad to say, I reheated whatever was in last night's cup of coffee. (waiting for the household to wake up before making an Americano from the espresso machine)
Received a fresh shipment of green coffee beans to roast and deciding will be next up in the queue. Couple interesting wet hulled samples (1 pound each) from Sumatra.
My supplier is once again offering a vintage (five year old Sumata) that is definitely an acquired taste for very rustic tasting coffee. $10 a pound. Don't know whether I want to do that again. Most certainly a change from the usual - NOT a crowd pleaser.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:11 AM (a4flb)
Ben Had
No joy in contacting OMB. I have asked for help from the staff of my local Congressman.
They answered on the first ring, had clear American voices, and seemed very willing to help. I'll see what they can do.
We have put up with so much poor customer service that it was stunning to get good, American service. Not outsourced to a foreign country.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 06, 2025 08:13 AM (u82oZ)
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Finally all is right with the world for now anyway
Thought my phone was done and all because I had a night message so put on Do not disturb, that turned off all media playing.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:13 AM (Ia/+0)
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I bought an assortment of Kuerig coffee pods at Costco. This morning I randomly tried a Hawaiian blend. Not bad.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at December 06, 2025 08:14 AM (cxFcK)
21They answered on the first ring, had clear American voices, and seemed very willing to help. I'll see what they can do.
You know that AI has gotten a lot better at telephone service than most Americans these days.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:14 AM (a4flb)
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Is there anyone out there that does not know that X was formally known as Twitter? How long are they going to keep telling us that?
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Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:11 AM (a4flb)
How do you make Americano coffee?
Posted by: dantesed at December 06, 2025 08:15 AM (Oy/m2)
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We are the United States of Amerigotin! Joe Bribem said so! Look it up on that tweet thing if you don't believe me. Or some other source........I'm to lazy to link
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at December 06, 2025 08:16 AM (jrgJz)
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Sad to say, I reheated whatever was in last night's cup of coffee. (waiting for the household to wake up before making an Americano from the espresso machine)
Received a fresh shipment of green coffee beans to roast and deciding will be next up in the queue. Couple interesting wet hulled samples (1 pound each) from Sumatra.
My supplier is once again offering a vintage (five year ol5thd Sumata) that is definitely an acquired taste for very rustic tasting coffee. $10 a pound. Don't know whether I want to do that again. Most certainly a change from the usual - NOT a crowd pleaser.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:11 AM (a4flb)
That is the worst, having had been up since 3 am.
The rest now makes your nic make more sense.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:16 AM (dK+Kv)
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at December 06, 2025 08:17 AM (jrgJz)
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Glory to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.
Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our deaths. Amen.
St. Nicholas, bishop and confessor, pray for us.
I have prayed Rosaries for the intentions, both stated and unstated, of the members of the Horde.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 06, 2025 08:17 AM (pJWtt)
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Oh, and I just recalled that I have some freshish ground coffee that I ground for last camping trip.
*off to make some stealth coffee*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:18 AM (dK+Kv)
I am grateful for the Horde, Misanthropic Humanitarian and Annie’s Stew.
Prayers ascending for those in need and those with unstated needs in our community. I credit Annie's Stew with helping turn us from just a smart military blog into a caring, thriving, incredible community.
{{{grammie}}}
{{{TiFW}}}. You looked marvelous in Corsicana.
That Billy Crystal video haunts me.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 06, 2025 08:19 AM (u82oZ)
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Is there anyone out there that does not know that X was formally known as Twitter? How long are they going to keep telling us that?
Posted by: fd, formally known as f'd at December 06, 2025 08:15 AM (vFG9F)
It will always be Twitter.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:19 AM (dK+Kv)
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In college sportsball news, Michigan State University athletics has jumped into the big boys ring after receiving a $290M donation from a wealthy booster. Another $100M from the same booster goes directly to the university's name___-likeness collective.
Total donation to the university was $401M and the dude isn't even and alum.
I hate what has become of college sports.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 06, 2025 08:19 AM (Y1sOo)
36 I bought an assortment of Kuerig coffee pods at Costco. This morning I randomly tried a Hawaiian blend. Not bad.
There is just enough "Hawaiian" in that blend so as not to be sued for false advertising.
You mentioned Kuerig, which guarantees that your coffee will have those delightful plastic flavor undertones in each cup.
BUT if you are looking for that Hawaiian taste without the Hawaiian premium pricing, Costa Rica, particularly the Tarrazu region is your Huckleberry.
I would recommend Panama, but their pricing is like Hawaii for almost the same reasons. But if you could ever get a Geisha variety from Panama - definitely go for it. (though no one in their right mind would put that been into a plastic K-cup)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:20 AM (a4flb)
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Prayers up for all on the list.
Please pray for Tim, an acquaintance through church. He has prostate cancer and begins 28 days straight of radiation beginning next week. We've seen miracles through prayer and Tim may need one.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 06, 2025 08:20 AM (2NHgQ)
My requests usually can not be handled by the pre-scripted prompts. A person does much better. Unless they are in India or the Philippines with a phony name and a vile accent.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 06, 2025 08:21 AM (u82oZ)
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A non paywalled version of the nyt link in the post
https://archive.is/3nc8z
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 08:21 AM (DoBxX)
41 Is there anyone out there that does not know that X was formally known as Twitter? How long are they going to keep telling us that?
As long as editors are looking for volume over quality of content.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:21 AM (a4flb)
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The US needs to up our coffee drinking. We're losing to Europeans.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 06, 2025 08:22 AM (2NHgQ)
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It's a bit cold out here to go without sans-culottes
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:27 AM (Ia/+0)
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Total donation to the university was $401M and the dude isn't even and alum.
I hate what has become of college sports.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 06, 2025 08:19 AM (Y1sOo)
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It's always been about money. The notion that there was some innocent and pure age is just nostalgia. From its foundation, college sports was tainted with scandal. The filthy and totally amoral University of Michigan has more "wins" in part because during its early years, it employed non-students on the team, many of whose names aren't even known. Players switched teams in mid-season, often defecting to a team they just played.
I am tickled that this athletic Death Star is being funded by a Michigan grad. I guess he hated Ann Arbor.
55 Her Majesty and The Big Dummy are off this morning to Orlando for the AKC National Championship show next Saturday.
It's the only big show we've never taken Best of Breed at (we won at Westminster, Morris and Essex and our National Specialty), though Dutch and Delilah gave it a good shot. We hope The Big Dummy can do just a bit better.
There are all-breed shows Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday as well as a Hound show the Sunday after. Plus HM has AKC delegate meetings Thursday and Friday. A busy week for them both. Wish them safe travel and good luck.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 08:27 AM (tgvbd)
Posted by: fd, formally known as f'd at December 06, 2025 08:16 AM (vFG9F)
The way covfefe was intended.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:28 AM (dK+Kv)
57My requests usually can not be handled by the pre-scripted prompts. A person does much better. Unless they are in India or the Philippines with a phony name and a vile accent.
Due to the nature of my work, I have gotten rather used to the accents.
Though with the increasing use of AI, I suspect that we are going to have to learn to communicate differently, where we think in terms of clarifying AI tokens rather than colorful metaphors and idioms.
Leftists hardest hit since they can only communicate in vague euphemisms and incendiary trigger words.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:29 AM (a4flb)
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And what’s what wrong with “soft and slow” applies to “rules” anyhow?
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 08:30 AM (2VfHu)
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A.H. Lloyd, you mentioned last week that you wanted to get an icon of St. Nicholas slapping the heretic Arius. Did you look for such an icon?
Fittingly, today is the feast day of St. Nicholas.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 06, 2025 08:23 AM (pJWtt)
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Sadly, no. Last week was something of a blur due to cars rotating in and out of the shop, and a stream of tradesmen moving in and out of the house. Speaking of which...
God be praised! The ceiling repairs are complete, and Home Improvement 2025 is finished at long last! I'm pausing frequently to look up and see no sign of the hole through which water infiltrated this room for several years with growing intensity, from intermittent droplets to a full stream this time last year.
We did have the grandkids set out their shoes and St. Nicholas left them gifts. I got an early wakeup as a result.
60 My sis went in this week for an atrial valve replacement due to stenosis.
Everything went fine.
The interesting thing is that instead of using a pig valve for replacement, they upgraded her to the latest and greatest replacement using bovine valve material.
The Downside?
The threat of marriage to a muslim is now back on the table!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:32 AM (iJfKG)
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I am surprised that Vietnam is so low on the coffee consumption list, and that Lebanon is so high.
Ny stereotypes would have put Turkey & Vietnam higher
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 08:33 AM (znREB)
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>> Anybody wondering, chemo sucks. But the people are nice.
Indeed. Stay strong. Stay focused on the goal, and pray. God will carry you through it.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 08:33 AM (Viiux)
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>> The people walking in darkness
have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of deep darkness
a light has dawned.
Isaiah 9:2
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 08:34 AM (Viiux)
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>>>>Her Majesty and The Big Dummy are off this morning to Orlando for the AKC National Championship show next Saturday.
Was there in 2019 with the late Missus when our bitch finished in the top ten in owner-handler and thus got the auto-invite.
The Orlando convention center is HUGE.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 06, 2025 08:34 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 08:34 AM (W7XSX)
66One floor down in the lounge they had some interesting coffee. A commercial machine that used concentrate. I was suspicious, but it was drinkable.
On layover in Dubai, rather than camp out in the airport lobby like unwashed heathen, I spent a short night in whatever hotel I could find nearby and put on an expense report without hassle - they had a full blown espresso machine and grinder in the room.
Staying at a pricy hotel room in The Woodlands, they offered some K-cup garbage and a cheap machine. I ignore it these days, use it only to heat water to run through an Aeropress.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:34 AM (a4flb)
The threat of marriage to a muslim is now back on the table!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:32 AM (iJfKG)
Her stock went up with the Hindus, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:35 AM (dK+Kv)
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It's the season of Advent.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 08:34 AM (W7XSX)
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Monday is a Holy Day of Obligation.
It's interesting that celebrities are getting into Advent. Chris Pratt and Gwen Stephani are both doing audio on Hallow. Pratt isn't Catholic, but I believe Stephani is a revert. She co-hosting with an Eastern Rite Sister.
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Anybody wondering, chemo sucks. But the people are nice.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 08:26 AM (sl73Y)
Godspeed.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:38 AM (dK+Kv)
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I used to order a lot of green beans from Sweet Maria’s. Shipping charges made it tough to pencil out really, unless ordering a lot. I’m sure it’s much worse now. Sumatran was good stuff as I recall.
I’ve mentioned this before, but I was looking at the Lewis and Clark loadout for 1804 and in addition to all the tons of equipment and trade goods they put together, there was 50 pounds of green Coffee beans. After roasting this makes about 40 pounds or so.. Not enough coffee for a crowd. It must have been the stash for the captains. Lasted longer than the Whiskey, it did.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 08:38 AM (2VfHu)
71 Was there in 2019 with the late Missus when our bitch finished in the top ten in owner-handler and thus got the auto-invite.
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Dutch got a Group 1 in Owner-Handled the first year they had it.
https://tinyurl.com/m3yevt5y
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 08:39 AM (tgvbd)
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Good morning, All. Thanks to "Annie's Stew" for keeping the list.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 06, 2025 08:39 AM (rsCxw)
73It's always been about money. The notion that there was some innocent and pure age is just nostalgia. From its foundation, college sports was tainted with scandal.
Southern Methodist University sports program has entered the chat
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:39 AM (a4flb)
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Only peasants prepare their inferior coffee at home. Us coastal elitists purchase our inferior coffee at shops, like God intended.
Posted by: Rob at December 06, 2025 08:42 AM (zhWvq)
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 08:42 AM (2VfHu)
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Good morning everyone. Thx MisHum for putting up prayers for my aunt and the update. Thx to all the Horde for your condolences. Judy was a good lady.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 06, 2025 08:44 AM (bfwj/)
Posted by: Caffiend at December 06, 2025 08:45 AM (oftw2)
79Running with sharp objects will not be tolerated unless you have a note from a responsible adult.
Anybody needing a note for sharp object running let me know. Every time something goes wrong around here they say I'm responsible.
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 08:46 AM (/iMjX)
80
We have a turkey rampaging out back by the bird feeders. She is snorking up all the cracked corn I scattered for the bunnies and other ground feeders.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 08:47 AM (AN2gy)
81
I was reading the ONT while waiting for the Coffee Thread to open shop, and-
saw the Leftist women learn about marriage meme along with their complaint that American men step up.
This always makes me want to tell them-
Gals, if you want to get married:
1) Don't Be a Ho - guys have a literal million years evolutionary background in spotting which ladies are and are not good Genetic Investments for their Progeny. If you're chasing every wang in town, or dating five guys at a time, you are not a good investment for pair-bonding. A quick pump and dump, yes. Marriage/ No.
2) You need to bring something else to the table besides your Pink Thang and gaggle of girlfriends.
For me, being able to cook is a big deal. It shows you can take care of yourself and want good things which means you can take basic care of the kiddos.
But, you know, a pleasant and positive personality is great.
So, is patience. No one wants to live with a highly emotional lunatic.
presenting yourself well is nice. No one's proud to be escorting a slob about town.
Etc.
I know, I know - guys can improve too.
It just seems that women in general have been targeted with the worst possible advice for life.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:47 AM (iJfKG)
82Only peasants prepare their inferior coffee at home. Us coastal elitists purchase our inferior coffee at shops, like God intended.
When in Guanajuato, Mexico that is the only way. The city is built literally on top of a huge silver mine from centuries ago and the whole city is a "walking city" where the driving thoroughfares are old tunnels below the surface.
You want coffee? Just walk a few minutes to the nearest shop. Want something to eat, walk a little bit and find a street taco cart or some other literal hole in the wall. (most buildings are centuries old stone structures)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 08:48 AM (a4flb)
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I am surprised that Vietnam is so low on the coffee consumption list, and that Lebanon is so high.
Ny stereotypes would have put Turkey & Vietnam higher
Posted by: vmom
Turkish coffee is about four times stronger than what even Europeans drink. You don't need to drink a lot of it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 06, 2025 08:49 AM (0U5gm)
84
45 A.H. Lloyd, you mentioned last week that you wanted to get an icon of St. Nicholas slapping the heretic Arius. Did you look for such an icon?
Fittingly, today is the feast day of St. Nicholas.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
I have seen medieval illustrations of Mary beating the devil, and Monday is her feast day (Immaculate Conception of Mary)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 08:49 AM (eZ5tL)
85A.H. Lloyd, you mentioned last week that you wanted to get an icon of St. Nicholas slapping the heretic Arius. Did you look for such an icon?
Fittingly, today is the feast day of St. Nicholas.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 06, 2025 08:23 AM (pJWtt)
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Sadly, no. Last week was something of a blur ...
We did have the grandkids set out their shoes and St. Nicholas left them gifts. I got an early wakeup as a result.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 08:31 AM (ZOv7s)
I did a quick search of the Inter-tubes and found an image that I like. The image is in the Eastern Orthodox tradition. Here's the site I found (tny url is beyond me):
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 06, 2025 08:50 AM (pJWtt)
86I don't have a capsule coffee maker at home, but I always try the hotel room machines. They range from excellent to abysmal.
I used a Nescafe unit in the cruise ship whilst waiting for room service to bring me coffee. It wasn't bad, although that may have just been me Jonesing for caffeine after waking up.
Sad to say, I reheated whatever was in last night's cup of coffee. (waiting for the household to wake up before making an Americano from the espresso machine)
Which machine do you have? I'm considering a purchase.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 08:51 AM (Riz8t)
87
It just seems that women in general have been targeted with the worst possible advice for life.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:47 AM (iJfKG)
It works. TPTB have studied history, have studied psychology, and they are running the playback to the letter. Manipulate the emotional to whatever your ends.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 08:51 AM (dK+Kv)
88
My wife and one of her sisters could sit and drink coffee all day long while yacking at each other. I've seen the two of them go through a couple pots before noon.
I don't think either does much of that anymore. But years ago it was quite something.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 08:51 AM (NwnyJ)
89Turkish coffee is about four times stronger than what even Europeans drink. You don't need to drink a lot of it.
Oh, yeah. I love that stuff. If you're especially aggressive, you can swill down the grounds in the bottom of the cup.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 08:52 AM (Riz8t)
90
>> There are all-breed shows Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday as well as a Hound show the Sunday after. Plus HM has AKC delegate meetings Thursday and Friday. A busy week for them both. Wish them safe travel and good luck.
Good luck and Godspeed. My girls sire was a Sieger Champion and her Dam was another SCHH3 who always placed top 3. I’m still an SV member, but don’t have the time for it these days. One day…
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 08:53 AM (Viiux)
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>>> Turkish coffee is about four times stronger than what even Europeans drink. You don't need to drink a lot of it.
The antithesis of 'prairie coffee'.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 08:53 AM (AN2gy)
92
Prayers for all the listed intentions, and that God will continue to shine His grace through us and upon us.
This has become one of my favorite Christmas songs, thought I'd share it with you all:
https://youtu.be/09azEfx71rc
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 06, 2025 08:53 AM (t/66j)
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I don't think either does much of that anymore. But years ago it was quite something.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 08:51 AM (NwnyJ)
It's interesting that celebrities are getting into Advent. Chris Pratt and Gwen Stephani are both doing audio on Hallow. Pratt isn't Catholic, but I believe Stephani is a revert. She co-hosting with an Eastern Rite Sister.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 06, 2025 08:38 AM (ZOv7s)
I think more-and-more people are seeing the open embrace of evil by the Neo-Pagans and "nice Christianity", and are seeking the stability of traditionalist Christianity.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 06, 2025 08:55 AM (pJWtt)
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I have seen medieval illustrations of Mary beating the devil, and Monday is her feast day (Immaculate Conception of Mary)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 08:49 AM (eZ5tL)
Meanwhile back at the ranch, Grandma is beating off the Indians!
I wonder if should ask Grok for an illustration.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 08:55 AM (c7Ygk)
98Being of common clay and never having seen coffee as a sacramental rite, I'm perfectly happy with my Kirkland dark roast made in a Keurig.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Okay everyone, this guy's next on the stone altar. Prepare the obsidian knife!
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 08:56 AM (Riz8t)
99
I noticed the (at least this was good) French influence in Phnomh Penh. Good strong black coffee and fresh french bread rolls for breakfast was everywhere.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 08:56 AM (2VfHu)
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I am surprised that Vietnam is so low on the coffee consumption list, and that Lebanon is so high.
Tea. Vietnamese drink lots of tea.
Posted by: Zombie Nguyen Cao Ky, commie killer at December 06, 2025 08:57 AM (R/m4+)
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Is there anyone out there that does not know that X was formally known as Twitter? How long are they going to keep telling us that?
***********
That will last until long after it is dead.
Posted by: The artist formerly known as Prince at December 06, 2025 08:57 AM (/iMjX)
102 I think more-and-more people are seeing the open embrace of evil by the Neo-Pagans and "nice Christianity", and are seeking the stability of traditionalist Christianity.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer
____________
Stern gods are feared and worshipped. Nice gods get melted down.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 08:57 AM (tgvbd)
103
Kier Starmer says free speech has NOT been banned in the UK.
Anyone who says otherwise will immediately be arrested.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at December 06, 2025 08:58 AM (cxFcK)
104They told us that Joe Biden was sharp as a tack. So are you going to believe them when it comes to coffee consumption? I think not.
It's behind a paywall, but looks like an article on quitting caffeine or finding alternative, lower concentration sources?
In the Army, coffee consumption is on the decline, both with younger soldiers and many of the older ones. Energy drinks are consumed at an alarming rate by both, and Zyns (little nicotine pouches) are incredibly common with younger troops.
I've found, as I get older, I'm getting what I assume are caffeine related headaches more often. Drank too much at work, now my head hurts and I'm crashing when I get home. It's the weekend and I don't have the easy office access, and I'm hurting by the afternoon. Try to cut back or stop, but...it's so tasty and convenient. Damn you coffee!!!!
Posted by: Military Moron at December 06, 2025 08:58 AM (JCZqz)
105
The Dems and douche bag Rand Paul want to help the Cartels to resume their drug deliveries. At least Rand Paul is foolishly consistent .
I can’t hate these anti American commies enough.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:00 AM (KDPiq)
106
“How are you getting along in London, getting settled in?
Not bad, can’t complain
That’s good.
Well no, I mean I can’t complain or I’ll get arrested.”
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:01 AM (2VfHu)
107 IIRC, the latest research shows that those who drink 2-3 cups of coffee per day have a lower risk for Alzheimer's.
Which is nice if true.
Chug your favorite beverage and don't become Joe Biden!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 09:01 AM (iJfKG)
108
It just seems that women in general have been targeted with the worst possible advice for life.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:47 AM (iJfKG)
And their douche bag radar is broken.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:02 AM (KDPiq)
109 Diana loves going on trips. Diana is excited because she can tell Mommy is going on a trip. But Diana is not going on a trip.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 09:02 AM (tgvbd)
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None of our kids drink coffee. The girls drink "energy drinks" like Monster or Redbull. My son doesn't drink anything but water and occasionally Coke or Pepsi.
I think those energy drinks taste like cough syrup.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 09:02 AM (NwnyJ)
111
There are a lot of good decaf beans now that don’t have weird aftertastes or lack the full body of real espresso. A friend sent me some Lavazza DEK decaf from Italy and it’s pretty magnificent, rich and produces a good crema on the Gaggia machine.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 09:02 AM (Viiux)
112
It has been both entertaining and satisfying this past week to see Candace Owens being regarded as a pathetic joke by everyone who mentions her now. And Tucker Carlson is sliding into Keith Olberman territory.
Dan Rather shakes his head and says “come on, at least show some dignity while you destroy your careers!”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 09:04 AM (c7Ygk)
113
My neighbor used to volunteer at the church food bank, and the volunteers always got some stuff at the end of the day, mostly produce so it wouldn't spoil. One day she got home and gave me a box of Vietnamese instant coffee packs. Cafe au lait. It was actually pretty good. Made in an industrial park outside of Bien Hoa according to the English on the box.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 06, 2025 09:04 AM (gm9Sb)
114 It just seems that women in general have been targeted with the worst possible advice for life.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:47 AM (iJfKG)
__________
Today's feminism advocates behaviors that run completely against women's natural instincts. That's why so many are unhappy nowadays.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 09:04 AM (tgvbd)
115Only peasants prepare their inferior coffee at home. Us coastal elitists purchase our inferior coffee at shops, like God intended.
I'm pretty sure that God did not intend for civilized human beings to drink French Roast coffee, or whatever that over roasted dreck is they foist upon the unsophisticated American palate.
Unless you are buying beans by the FEU, civilized people buy according to the farm lots or plantations and then roast to City or Full City - very near first crack and before the smoke, based on how bright and how much body they want their. (body is pointless when using a paper filter)
If people enjoy the taste of bitter charcoal then, yeah, the local franchise coffee joint for those who want to bury the taste of that vile abomination called "coffee" with a myriad of syrups, spices and dairy additives.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:05 AM (a4flb)
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One cup of coffee in the morning with my bowl of oatmeal with fruit is my routine.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:05 AM (KDPiq)
117
Coffee detox is what causes headaches. Caffeine is a common adjunct with Aspirin, Excedrin maybe. Anacin? Whatever happened to Anacin? They had those neat little yellow tins, for carrying anywhere at work, or when mother in law shows up
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:05 AM (2VfHu)
118
Diana loves going on trips. Diana is excited because she can tell Mommy is going on a trip. But Diana is not going on a trip.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 09:02 AM (tgvbd)
Having seen it on my own dogs many times, I can imagine the heartbreaking body language when Diana realizes she is not going on a trip.
119
So, I took Buckley for a walk yesterday. It has been a while with my knee being sore from it being
de-brided. It didn't start well. I had him in a sit in my front yard while a lade was walking a small
shitz-tsu on the sidewalk. Buckley got very excited and right as she walked about 10 feet in front of us, he took off to greet her. I wasn't prepared and he almost pulled me to the ground. We have practiced this many times and he usually holds. It's been a while so my fault since he was out of practice but I have a spot on my ring finger where the leash took some skin off, ouch. I'm afraid he's going to seriously hurt me one day, my right shoulder is still not right because of him. He is a good dog but I don't think we are active enough for him. When I got him as a puppy I thought he'd be about 20lbs smaller full grown. I will stick with pure breed dogs from now on, at least I can make an informed decision on what I'm getting into.
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>>> I think those energy drinks taste like cough syrup.
I've seen on U Toob that Redbull deliberately tastes bad as marketing strategy.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 09:07 AM (AN2gy)
121
the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:05 AM (KDPiq)
You put oatmeal and fruit in your coffee??
Posted by: dantesed at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (Oy/m2)
122There are a lot of good decaf beans now that don’t have weird aftertastes or lack the full body of real espresso. A friend sent me some Lavazza DEK decaf from Italy and it’s pretty magnificent, rich and produces a good crema on the Gaggia machine.
Look for "SWP" (Swiss Water Process) its a chemical free, pure water osmosis method that preserves all of the things you enjoy in a proper coffee sans the caffeine.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (a4flb)
123 Having seen it on my own dogs many times, I can imagine the heartbreaking body language when Diana realizes she is not going on a trip.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 06, 2025 09:06 AM (h7ZuX)
__________
When the great Lacey was finally retired and Diva went instead for the first time, the look of astonishment on Lacey's face was something to behold.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (tgvbd)
124
There are a lot of good decaf beans now that don’t have weird aftertastes
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“Coffee that doesn’t do what coffee does” I just can’t.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (2VfHu)
125
117 If you look at the ingredients of BC and Goodys powders you will find caffeine. Bufferin used to have it. That was Mom and Dad's NSAID of choice.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (gm9Sb)
126
Kier Starmer says free speech has NOT been banned in the UK.
Anyone who says otherwise will immediately be arrested.
Posted by: Blutarski
In case anyone missed it, yesterday in Parliament, an MP introduced an amendment to take every British pension dollar and invest them in green energy and public housing. I knew that stash of dollars was too tempting. Guess what happens if the democrats take control here?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (0U5gm)
127
I am asking for prayers for my dearest friend Julia who has been told by her doctors that she has very little time left ion this planet. Julia was the first woman I enjoyed the company of after the disastrous end of a disastrous marriage almost twenty yeas ago.
Julia has an incredible mind and drive that lead her to become a Naval officer, a college professor a competitive sailor and Mom.
She went into the hospital with pneumonia a couple of weeks ago and left with a terminal diagnosis.
She is incredibly strong willed and never learned to let go of any problem she encountered and shared her strength with endless loving support to her family and friends.
Please pray to God to give her the strength she needs in these last few days.
And the peace that comes from acceptance.
Posted by: pawn at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (70YV/)
BREAKING: Family of January 6th Pipe Bomb suspect say he is not a Trump supporter, contradicting claims made by many in legacy media.
His family says he's an autistic, recluse, computer nerd. (Insty)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (Riz8t)
129
We always took all of our dogs with us to dog shows, even those who were not entered.
When we got our fourth dog, we bought a VW Atlas which, after laying down the second and third rows of seating, provided adequate room for them on trips.
When we got our fifth dog, we bought a Itasca Sunova. lol
Posted by: one hour sober at December 06, 2025 09:09 AM (Y1sOo)
130
You put oatmeal and fruit in your coffee??
Posted by: dantesed at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (Oy/m2)
No if you read it again it seems I put coffee in my oatmeal😀
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 09:10 AM (KDPiq)
131
At one point when I lived in a flat off Portobello Road in London. I liked the area because there was a street market where you could buy a lot of produce and other things. A bit Bohemian, but that’s me anyway.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 09:11 AM (Viiux)
132
If I was in England might go yell Throw out the Muslims, then when surely get arrested tell the Bobbies to go arrest Starmer who said I could say that
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:11 AM (Ia/+0)
133
I've seen on U Toob that Redbull deliberately tastes bad as marketing strategy.
Posted by: fluffy
Way back in the 60's, when Coca Cola was formulating their new diet soda Tab, they found in testing that people did not believe the artificially sweetened beverage was actually a diet drink. They had to add a bittering agent in order for it to be accepted in the market.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 06, 2025 09:11 AM (0U5gm)
134
>>His family says he's an autistic, recluse, computer nerd.
What nic does he go by here?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 09:12 AM (viF8m)
135
BREAKING: Family of January 6th Pipe Bomb suspect say he is not a Trump supporter, contradicting claims made by many in legacy media.
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Yeah, what would they know?? I Trust NBC and their cohort of brain dead newsreaders way more than primary sources.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:13 AM (2VfHu)
136It just seems that women in general have been targeted with the worst possible advice for life.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:47 AM (iJfKG)
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Today's feminism advocates behaviors that run completely against women's natural instincts. That's why so many are unhappy nowadays.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 09:04 AM (tgvbd)
I've seen a graph that shows that births by women 25 years or younger are now FEWER than births by women 40 years or older. No wonder that something like 25% of these women are on anti-depressant medications.
Congratulations ladies, you're working for companies that will gladly pay for your abortions in exchange for having little children that will love you ... all for a career.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 06, 2025 09:14 AM (pJWtt)
137
How fresh is that coffee?
I generally make a fresh pot every week – even if there’s some left over.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 06, 2025 09:14 AM (gbOdA)
138
I try to tell these guys the zyn and energy drinks are no bueno. You can’t expect to go from zero to 60, with adrenaline and everything else that involves and not expect some damage. The incident of heart events for younger age groups is directly traceable to too much of that junk.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 09:15 AM (Viiux)
139
>>> I knew that stash of dollars was too tempting. Guess what happens if the democrats take control here?
They will empty the SS fund of cash and put it all in government bonds?
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 09:16 AM (AN2gy)
140
Since this is the prayer thread, I'll go ahead and mention there has been a lot written about the spirituality of the Monster energy drink packaging. I can't offer a link to a definitive discussion of the topic, but the reader is encouraging to pursue individual study on this matter.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 06, 2025 09:17 AM (XQo4F)
141Which machine do you have? I'm considering a purchase.
Five or six years ago Bezos was giving away Calphalon espresso machines. Mine has a built in burr grinder and steam wand; the pump is way over spec for espresso pressures.
Apparently the model has been long discontinued, and this thing runs without fault. I'm going to be in a bit of a quandary if/when this thing fails before I die or otherwise don't drink coffee anymore.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:17 AM (a4flb)
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:18 AM (Ia/+0)
143
My boys aren't on the caffeine bus...yet, they are not quite 20 yet. The spawn on the other hand is well known for her Monster Energy consumption. It's usually 1 can a day sometimes 2. She has a black vehicle which she has embellished with that lime green that the Monster logo is known for so the car resembles the black and green can/logo.
144
Good morning Horde, offering prayers for all who need them, especially those who are battling depression at this time of year.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 09:19 AM (0nHVk)
145134 >>His family says he's an autistic, recluse, computer nerd.
What nic does he go by here?
Ummmmm....ALL of them?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 09:19 AM (Riz8t)
146
Last F-1 race this weekend, driver champion is still up for grabs
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:19 AM (Ia/+0)
147They will empty the SS fund of cash and put it all in government bonds?
Do you notice that we always seem to be just moments away from running out of Social Security money but NEVER run out of foreign aid or gifts, in the billions if not trillions to foreigners living on entitlements?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:20 AM (a4flb)
148 all for a career.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer
__________
All for a career that is likely to be a disappointment when you've found out you're not go-getter girlboss material.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 09:21 AM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Pants Free In NC at December 06, 2025 08:16 AM
1990s Kmart commercials about knickers.
"1990s Kmart commercials were out of control!"
Instagram: https://bit.ly/4pyoCiM
"Wait a minute, what'd he say? Awww, knickers, please!"
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 06, 2025 09:23 AM (P5BPp)
150
In case anyone missed it, yesterday in Parliament, an MP introduced an amendment to take every British pension dollar and invest them in green energy and public housing. I knew that stash of dollars was too tempting. Guess what happens if the democrats take control here?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 06, 2025 09:08 AM (0U5gm)
The tragic yet hilarious part is the reason he’s proposing this. All of the “green energy” investments are collapsing as private funding pulls out, and even the government can’t afford to keep building housing for immigrants. (62% of public housing in the UK is filled by recent immigrants)
So he wants to seize the pension and put it all into ventures he knows will fail.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 09:23 AM (c7Ygk)
151
93 y/o M-I-L had a rough week. Lower dentures failed, needed a new mold and a rebuild, so time and anxiety in the dentist's chair getting a retrofit. Shaky, unsteady on her feet and pain in her ribcage. Didn't eat for two days, Stayed in bed for the whole day yesterday. Missus Muldoon gave her some good nursing care (pain relief cream, Advil, a lidocaine patch, a back rub, a tiny bit of CBDTHC gummy and some TLC).
This morning she sprang out of bed, no pain, hungry and raring to go. Downed a fried egg, half a piece of toast, half a banana, half a cup of coffee (home roasted Brazilian) a small slice of ham and a small Christmas cookie. Amazing bounceback!
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 09:23 AM (/iMjX)
152 I'll go ahead and mention there has been a lot written about the spirituality of the Monster energy drink packaging.
You should be more concerned about the plastics used within the Monster energy drink cans, as the microplastics are linked to contaminants crossing the blood-brain barrier and leading to dementia and other brain-fog ailments.
Energy drinks are of the Devil. If you absolutely insist on amping up performance I recommend Re-Lyte and high servings of Creatine (though don't use Creatine if you are treating kidney issues since it will throw off kidney function tests)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:24 AM (a4flb)
153
Indeed. Stay strong. Stay focused on the goal, and pray. God will carry you through it.
Posted by: Marcus T
God an family, and friends. Counting on it Marcus. Might make a bit of an effort myself.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 09:25 AM (sl73Y)
154
Hope no one expects any money to.be there
But some will become millionaires
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:26 AM (Ia/+0)
155
Get a job, they said. Have a career they said. You'll be fulfilled, they said. Give your time, energy and talent to a thankless soul sucking corporation they said. Kids are an inconvenience they said. You're a kick butt girlboss they said. Cats are great they said.
Posted by: Where are they now? at December 06, 2025 09:26 AM (XQo4F)
156
Put your thinking cap on. Social security payments are not required, by law. Timely interest payments on existing debt held by foreign creditors is, however.
Take a guess …. who gets thrown under the bus first?
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:27 AM (2VfHu)
157They answered on the first ring, had clear American voices, and seemed very willing to help. I'll see what they can do. Because it's becoming increasingly rare, I feel compelled to give praise when a company actually has very good customer service. I bought a Delta kitchen faucet over 16 years ago; all Delta faucets come with a lifetime original owner guarantee. I've had to have the cartridge replaced a couple of time. In each case, called their 1-800 number given on the package, answered within minutes (if not seconds), talked to a very polite rep speaking American English, parts ordered immediately, shipped within days, and arriving a within a week. No hassles, no weaseling, no if-and-or-buts, just excellent service.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 06, 2025 09:27 AM (XMwZJ)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 09:27 AM (W7XSX)
159
I was a stay at home mom and very happy. I was forced back into the labor market about 9 years ago when Hubble lost his job. Now I'm stuck. Hubble did eventually find another job but still not making as much as he was 9 years ago. Everything is 50% more expensive and we have a kid in college and 2 more headed there very shortly. It is not what I chose and I am not happy to have to work but I am still very blessed that we are doing well.
160 I try to tell these guys the zyn and energy drinks are no bueno. You can’t expect to go from zero to 60, with adrenaline and everything else that involves and not expect some damage. The incident of heart events for younger age groups is directly traceable to too much of that junk.
They said the same thing about Ephedrine. The banning took place as soon as the DEA discovered ephedra was a much sought after ingredient for cooking meth.
Because of the high linkage between the two, I suspect the "heart damage" line was part of the typical lies and bullshit propaganda we have come to expect from our sorry excuse for government.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:29 AM (a4flb)
161Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 06, 2025 09:27 AM (XMwZJ)
Delta and Brizo (their high-end brand) are the only plumbing fixtures I will buy, specifically because of their customer service.
162
Mornin', Hordelings. Think I'll head down to the diner in about half an hour and load up on unhealthy fats and carbohydrates. Maybe it'll rain just enough to give me an excuse to stay indoors all day and be a sloth. Feels like a good weekend for it.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 09:32 AM (GALGA)
163I was reading the ONT while waiting for the Coffee Thread to open shop, and-
saw the Leftist women learn about marriage meme along with their complaint that American men step up.
This always makes me want to tell them-
Gals, if you want to get married:
1) Don't Be a Ho
2) You need to bring something else to the table besides your Pink Thang and gaggle of girlfriends.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:47 AM
Hoe_math has an entire YouTube channel dedicated to explaining that "modern" women think they ARE the table. Meaning they do not have to bring anything to the table at all. But expect men to bring everything to the table.
Posted by: pawn at December 06, 2025 09:33 AM (70YV/)
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156 Put your thinking cap on. Social security payments are not required, by law. Timely interest payments on existing debt held by foreign creditors is, however.
Take a guess …. who gets thrown under the bus first?
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:27
Social Security payments are required by law.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 09:33 AM (OoFl2)
168
93 y/o M-I-L had a rough week. Lower dentures failed, needed a new mold and a rebuild, so time and anxiety in the dentist's chair getting a retrofit. Shaky, unsteady on her feet and pain in her ribcage. Didn't eat for two days, Stayed in bed for the whole day yesterday. Missus Muldoon gave her some good nursing care (pain relief cream, Advil, a lidocaine patch, a back rub, a tiny bit of CBDTHC gummy and some TLC).
This morning she sprang out of bed, no pain, hungry and raring to go. Downed a fried egg, half a piece of toast, half a banana, half a cup of coffee (home roasted Brazilian) a small slice of ham and a small Christmas cookie. Amazing bounceback!
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 09:23 AM (/iMjX)
Sounds like she's fit and spry enough to move your spare weight set into the attic for storage. 👍
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 06, 2025 09:33 AM (wVcYX)
169
A reminder: While pants are required in tomorrow's Book Thread, knickers are not, if you prefer not to let anything get between you and your Calvin Kleins.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 06, 2025 09:34 AM (0sNs1)
170
"His family says he's an autistic, recluse, computer nerd. (Insty)"
Just wondering if mom took tylenol while pregnant.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 09:35 AM (W7XSX)
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:35 AM (2VfHu)
172
"They will empty the SS fund of cash and put it all in government bonds?"
LOL
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 09:36 AM (W7XSX)
173
I would like to ask for prayers for Fenelon Son who apparently has -surprisingly-to me- an in person interview on Monday ( I thought that this was all done by Zoom now.) for some some company as a lab technician. This is really not his field ( His degree is in botany) but, of course he had all kinds of lab courses in community college and in the four year school and place requires is a two year degree. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 09:36 AM (LIvrk)
174
The threat of marriage to a muslim is now back on the table!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:32 AM (iJfKG)
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I don't generally judge a group by the acts of a minority, but for 1,400 years , they've been bent on conquest and domination. I hope the threat comes to nothing.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 06, 2025 09:36 AM (3I53N)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 09:37 AM (LIvrk)
176
I was a stay at home mom and very happy. I was forced back into the labor market about 9 years ago when Hubble lost his job. Now I'm stuck. Hubble did eventually find another job but still not making as much as he was 9 years ago. Everything is 50% more expensive and we have a kid in college and 2 more headed there very shortly. It is not what I chose and I am not happy to have to work but I am still very blessed that we are doing well.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 09:29 AM (VCgbV)
Hang in there. It will all become worthwhile when one day, out of the blue, one of those kids will call or write to thank you and appreciate the lessons you taught them. BTDT.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 06, 2025 09:38 AM (wVcYX)
177
hoe_math is hilarious but also enlightening (and somewhat depressing at the same time). Dating and relationships were awkward enough before everybody lost their minds with social media. I feel like I won the lottery getting married when I did, to whom I did. If I were single again I wouldn't even bother trying.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 09:39 AM (GALGA)
178The threat of marriage to a muslim is now back on the table!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 08:32 AM (iJfKG)
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I don't generally judge a group by the acts of a minority, but for 1,400 years , they've been bent on conquest and domination. I hope the threat comes to nothing.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 06, 2025 09:36 AM (3I53N)
It was a joke, a jape, a bit of frippery as it were. 🤪
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 09:39 AM (iJfKG)
179
Do you notice that we always seem to be just moments away from running out of Social Security money but NEVER run out of foreign aid or gifts, in the billions if not trillions to foreigners living on entitlements?
And SNAP and EBT and disability payments to anyone and everyone and somali feed the children and oh forget it.
It's all a swindle, a swindle. A rock n roll swindle.
Posted by: Zombie Malcolm McLaren at December 06, 2025 09:41 AM (R/m4+)
180
Meant " what the place...."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 09:37 AM (LIvrk)
I will pray that Fenelon Son gets the job...I can attest first hand his professionalism, patience with complex tasks, and his ability to push a task to its completion.
Should anyone desire a recommendation, that is.
Good Luck!
Posted by: Boswell at December 06, 2025 09:42 AM (BGfwC)
181Sounds like she's fit and spry enough to move your spare weight set into the attic for storage. 👍
Posted by: Count de Monet
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As soon as she finishes staining the deck...
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 09:42 AM (/iMjX)
182It was a joke, a jape, a bit of frippery as it were. 🤪
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 09:39 AM
Is that allowed here? I was under the understanding that such was only allowed, in very moderate quantities, on the ONT.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 06, 2025 09:43 AM (0sNs1)
183
This may be a dumb question ( sorry) but what do you even wear to an interview for a job to be a lab technician- just nice pants and a shirt?. Surely not a suit and tie?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 09:44 AM (1Vo6X)
184
"They will empty the SS fund of cash and put it all in government bonds?"
LOL
I believe that is how Billy Jeff Clinton (D-Little St James Island) "balanced the budget"
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 09:44 AM (AN2gy)
Please pray to God to give her the strength she needs in these last few days.
And the peace that comes from acceptance.
Posted by: pawn at December 06,
I am praying for you and Julia. May the love of God
Surround you.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 09:44 AM (OoFl2)
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183 This may be a dumb question ( sorry) but what do you even wear to an interview for a job to be a lab technician- just nice pants and a shirt?. Surely not a suit and tie?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December
Why not a suit and tie? It presents professionalism.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 09:45 AM (OoFl2)
187
Lab coat and safety goggles. Bring an Erlenmeyer flask filled with a blue liquid, and peer intently into it whilst swirling gently now and then.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:46 AM (2VfHu)
188
Al Franken is planning another run at the Senate in Minnesota. He should be a shoo-in if he uses his stage name...
...Stuart Somali.
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 09:46 AM (/iMjX)
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 09:46 AM (Ia/+0)
190
Appropriate attire for a job interview as a lab technician would, I think, consist of (a) a white coat, disheveled hair, and nerd glasses, or (b) a filthy robe, a bulging eye, and a hump on one's back.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 09:47 AM (GALGA)
191
This may be a dumb question ( sorry) but what do you even wear to an interview for a job to be a lab technician- just nice pants and a shirt?. Surely not a suit and tie?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 09:44 AM (1Vo6X)
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Nice pants and shirt. Maybe a sweater or jacket.
Simply showing up for the interview will amaze the interviewer.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 09:47 AM (sF9Ts)
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>>> This may be a dumb question ( sorry) but what do you even wear to an interview for a job to be a lab technician- just nice pants and a shirt?. Surely not a suit and tie?
I would recommend a jacket and tie over nice pants.
How does he look? Is he semi-comfortable in a jacket or does he look like it is wearing him.
I personally prefer a pocket square to a tie as they add something extra without the fuss of getting a proper knot.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 09:48 AM (AN2gy)
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 09:48 AM (GALGA)
194This may be a dumb question ( sorry) but what do you even wear to an interview for a job to be a lab technician- just nice pants and a shirt?. Surely not a suit and tie?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December
Why not a suit and tie? It presents professionalism.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 09:45 AM (OoFl2)
I believe a suit and tie is always good, however-
if you know what the boss and people actually wear to work, say...a polo shirt and khakis with nice shoes, then wear that as it shows you're already one of them psychologically and behaviorally.
Just my two cents.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 06, 2025 09:49 AM (iJfKG)
195
By law, the SS Trust Fund must be invested in U.S. Treasury securities. It's a gigantic pile of IOUs.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 09:49 AM (W7XSX)
196If I were single again I wouldn't even bother trying.
Amen. I can't imagine a more godless dating pool for both sexes than the petri dish we have today.
Then again, there are a number of LeTourneau men attending our church, they seem pretty much tuned and switched on with a plan.
OTOH, the women out here seem to be in deep loving relationships with the buffet table of food, drugs and low-lifes - or have the personality of life-long shut-in spinsters.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:49 AM (a4flb)
197 Anacin had caffeine. Very popular on Saturday morning for folks that only drink coffee at work M-F.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025
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In my first year at my former employer, I drank coffee Mon-Sat., and for some reason skipped the stuff on Sunday. Then I'd wake up with a crashing headache on Monday morning. I liked my job, so it wasn't a reaction to that. Eventually I figured out it was a coffee withdrawal headache.
If a hurricane or other storm is coming that might knock out the power, I brew up some coffee and stick it in a jar in the fridge.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:50 AM (wzUl9)
198
>>This may be a dumb question ( sorry) but what do you even wear to an interview for a job to be a lab technician
A positive attitude and excitement over the opportunity. You'd be surprised how far that goes when applying for any job.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 09:50 AM (viF8m)
199
171 OK pipe, if you say so.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06
It’s called The Social Security Act. If I didn’t withhold and do my match in payroll, it ends badly for me.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 09:50 AM (OoFl2)
200
>>> Nice pants and shirt. Maybe a sweater or jacket.
A sweater over a nice shirt is a good compromise if he doesn't wear a jacket well.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 09:50 AM (AN2gy)
201
“Unitary Budget” control act 1968. Government finances were not looking too good. Rolling Social Security (formerly a separate budget) made the general revenue look much better.
Not sure what Slick Willie did, but they had already raped Social Security long before. They also took liberties with Fannie Mae about the same time. The 2008 debacle was actually “sloppy seconds”.
The general theme seems to be privately held entities loot the system, and then drop it back into the lap of the taxpayer. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:50 AM (2VfHu)
202
And the way benefits are calculated, it is more of a welfare plan than a pension plan.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 09:51 AM (W7XSX)
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 09:51 AM (W7XSX)
204
I was going to leave the desktop computer and go out to the living room, but for some reason little Dagny kitten is keeping me company here on my desk. That's rare. I hate to abandon her.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 09:52 AM (wzUl9)
Peter Baker
@peterbakernyt
Trump administration makes Trump's birthday a free-admission day for national parks while canceling free admission for Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth, according to park service web site.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:53 AM (L/fGl)
206
Good morning everyone, on this grey and chilly day. Oddly, I'm enjoying iced coffee.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 09:54 AM (kpS4V)
208The incident of heart events for younger age groups is directly traceable to too much of that junk [caffeine]...
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...well, that and mRNA COVID vaccine spike protein, but mostly spike protein.
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 09:55 AM (/iMjX)
209
tptb have been trying to demonize coffee since the 80s; or at least that's when I started noticing ...
and I personally think that energy drinks will someday be the asbestos of the early 21st century
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 09:56 AM (Cjt/F)
210
Fen, I think you and Fen Son have a mother-son bonding activity this afternoon.
I never liked my mother fussing over my clothes and he might not either, but just approach it in businesslike manner.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 09:57 AM (AN2gy)
211
Wolfus,
Do you ever give your cats a real bath? I know cats groom themselves but big, long haired cats, can't always do this very well. I hear their coat can get very oily. I brush Eddie and he seems to enjoy it, so no mats but he looks oily. I read up on it and saw that you should give Maine Coons regular baths.
I don’t care what they call it. The courts ruled long ago, there is no “right” to social security payments per se. Trust Me. They are termed an “entitlement”, but they can renege on payments. Governments have a long history of default, it’s the norm not the exception.
But making interest payments on the debt. They HAVE to pay those, assuming they want to be able to continue to borrow money, or at favorable rates. They MUST do this.
When the music stops, when phony baloney funny money is no longer acceptable, particularly for imports, when it’s cash on the barrelhead, then governments have to make hard choices. There is no money for sex change operations for illegal aliens on death row. They have to Triage payments.
Mu point is they will throw Americans under the bus first. Guaranteed. Sort of like it is now, only a lot worse.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 09:57 AM (2VfHu)
214Peter Baker
@peterbakernyt
Trump administration makes Trump's birthday a free-admission day for national parks while canceling free admission for Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth, according to park service web site.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 09:53 AM
What's the issue? I'm reliably informed by leftists everywhere that black people don't frequent national parks and the outdoors generally. Because racism or something.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 06, 2025 09:58 AM (Wnv9h)
215It’s called The Social Security Act. If I didn’t withhold and do my match in payroll, it ends badly for me.
I have been paying 12% of my income (well, the part that falls under the ceiling) for forty years.
It is NOT OK for them to say that SS is "running out of money" while importing 50 million illegal aliens for the specific purpose of draining the treasury.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09:58 AM (a4flb)
216
>>Trump administration makes Trump's birthday a free-admission day for national parks while canceling free admission for Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth, according to park service web site.
Trump's birthday is June 14th. So is Flag Day. Admission is free on June 14th because of Flag Day not Trump's birthday.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 09:59 AM (viF8m)
217
Happy Saturday! Sitting by the fire, full cup of coffee in my happy bunny mug, dog is. . somewhere (he'll come snuggle soon)!
Oh yeah, gotta work today. *sigh*
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 09:59 AM (GbwPZ)
218
well, that and mRNA COVID vaccine spike protein, but mostly spike protein.
Posted by: muldoon
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Muldoon,
Glad to see someone who actually knows about this subject say it out loud!!! So glad I did NOT get my kids shot up despite the immense pressure.
219
215 It’s called The Social Security Act. If I didn’t withhold and do my match in payroll, it ends badly for me.
I have been paying 12% of my income (well, the part that falls under the ceiling) for forty years.
It is NOT OK for them to say that SS is "running out of money" while importing 50 million illegal aliens for the specific purpose of draining the treasury.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 09
Those are 2 separate things, what you said first and what you said here.
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 10:00 AM (OoFl2)
Posted by: Always in fashion at December 06, 2025 10:00 AM (XQo4F)
223
"They will empty the SS fund of cash and put it all in government bonds?"
"cash", LOL!
as someone noted above, it's all
just an enormous heap of IOUs
(like the rest of the gummint's financing ... )
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 10:01 AM (Cjt/F)
224
Attending a wedding on a Massachusetts island today. Because where else would you choose to get married than an island in the north Atlantic in early December, with the wind cutting through your coat and gloves every time you venture outside? Fortunately, there is plenty of bourbon.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 06, 2025 10:01 AM (tqvfY)
225
>>> Trump's birthday is June 14th. So is Flag Day. Admission is free on June 14th because of Flag Day not Trump's birthday.
Flag Day makes more sense than MLK Day. Why not Juneteenth? Someone vacationing in June would certainly welcome it.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 10:01 AM (AN2gy)
226
Many prayers for the horde for comfort and/or healing. Love seeing the updates with good news, such as for grammie winger!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:02 AM (GbwPZ)
227
Welcome to the hood, Huck! It's going to get colder.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 06, 2025 10:02 AM (Wnv9h)
228
...well, that and mRNA COVID vaccine spike protein, but mostly spike protein.
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 09:55 AM (/iMjX)
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I noticed a product called "Ultimate Spike Detox" claiming to help rid the body of this nasty bit of biochemical detritus. I'd be grateful to know your professional opinion on whether this may be worth trying or if it's likely just more snake oil....
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 06, 2025 10:02 AM (t/66j)
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>>Attending a wedding on a Massachusetts island today. Because where else would you choose to get married than an island in the north Atlantic in early December, with the wind cutting through your coat and gloves every time you venture outside? Fortunately, there is plenty of bourbon.
Heh -- beach wedding?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:03 AM (GbwPZ)
230
>>> Attending a wedding on a Massachusetts island today. Because where else would you choose to get married than an island in the north Atlantic in early December
Maybe it is a really nice venue but was booked solid through Thanksgiving?
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 10:03 AM (AN2gy)
231Do you ever give your cats a real bath? I know cats groom themselves but big, long haired cats, can't always do this very well. I hear their coat can get very oily. I brush Eddie and he seems to enjoy it, so no mats but he looks oily. I read up on it and saw that you should give Maine Coons regular baths.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025
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No, I really don't bathe them. Linda's Marie-Antoinette was fine with it, but she was much smarter than the average cat. We pretty much brush these two and comb them, and cut out any knots we find. In his whole life, longhaired part-Coon Arizona had, I think, only one bath that was not related to flea-killing, and only had to be shaved (the "lion cut") once. The same with the late Chekov D. Siberian, though he got the topical flea killer regularly.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:04 AM (wzUl9)
232
Social Security funds are actually IOUs for IOUs. “Special” T-Bills that can not be traded on the open market.
Some crank kept pestering them “Where’s the money?” so they printed up a bunch of them in lieu of the ledgerbook entries, they are kept in a manila folder in a locked metal file cabinet in an office at the Bureau of Public Debt in Parkersburg, West Virgina. So we’re good!
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:05 AM (2VfHu)
233
Truth be told, Huck Follywood, I love a winter walk on the beach in NE.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:05 AM (GbwPZ)
234Mu point is they will throw Americans under the bus first. Guaranteed. Sort of like it is now, only a lot worse.
They have been more than telegraphing that message for decades.
I'm expected to forgo any return on the hundreds of thousands extracted from me because some Zoomer can't afford a high rise condo and a new SUV fresh out of six years of a four year college program bearing only the skillset of a horny Wallmart door greeter.
That money in the "social contract" made generations ago is to flow directly to pagan savages to free up their daily schedule from work-like activities so they can focus on the important events like fraud, rape, burglary and murder.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:06 AM (a4flb)
Afghan Watchdog Reveals Billions in U.S.-Abandoned Weapons Now Form the “Core” of Taliban Military
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:06 AM (L/fGl)
236
>>Peter Baker
@peterbakernyt
Trump administration makes Trump's birthday a free-admission day for national parks while canceling free admission for Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth, according to park service web site.
Sounds like the man has a pen and a phone and he's not afraid to use it! Call it 'the Obama precedent'!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:06 AM (GbwPZ)
237
They pride themselves here on living exuberantly in cold weather. There was an ocean dip this morning that I, being rational, skipped.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 06, 2025 10:07 AM (ASw1o)
238
>> Attending a wedding on a Massachusetts island today. Because where else would you choose to get married than an island in the north Atlantic in early December
You'd be surprised how many wacky things happen on islands in the North Atlantic in early December.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:07 AM (viF8m)
239
I don’t think I am ever going to get the glitter from my tree ribbon out of my rug!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 10:08 AM (pZEOD)
240
Because where else would you choose to get married than an island in the north Atlantic in early December
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Are the bride and groom arriving by Nantucket sleyride?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 10:08 AM (kpS4V)
241
Someone here will know. On Westerns, they have a sound effect they play for dramatic scenes, a gunfight or whatever. Kind of like a rattle snake. Or a boot spur being spun. What is that?
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:09 AM (2VfHu)
National Dog Show Beats Monday Night Football in Ratings
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:09 AM (L/fGl)
243
Truth be told, Huck Follywood, I love a winter walk on the beach in NE.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:05 AM (GbwPZ
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I generally have a lot of respect for your views Lizzy, but here we differ
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 06, 2025 10:09 AM (ASw1o)
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>> I would like to ask for prayers for Fenelon Son who apparently has -surprisingly-to me- an in person interview on Monday
Will do, Fen!
Suggest he write individual thank you notes to those he interviews with, if he doesn't do that already.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:10 AM (GbwPZ)
Posted by: Limerick lover at December 06, 2025 10:10 AM (XQo4F)
246
I credit Annie's Stew with helping turn us from just a smart military blog into a caring, thriving, incredible community.
==
I believe giving credit where credit is due. So let's include her predecessor (s) who made it "a thing", and kept it going for a number of years prior to Annie taking over.
Posted by: runner at December 06, 2025 10:11 AM (g47mK)
247Truth be told, Huck Follywood, I love a winter walk on the beach in NE.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025
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I suspect that when I move North, I'm going to need a gym for workouts on cold mornings, near and below freezing, or I'll have to buy a treadmill. The wind chill really gets to you. And I'd hate to slip on ice while walking or running.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
248
The Adults are back in charge
Too funny what they did to Dick
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 10:11 AM (Ia/+0)
249
Afghan Watchdog Reveals Billions in U.S.-Abandoned Weapons Now Form the “Core” of Taliban Military
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:06 AM (L/fGl)
Yes. Free SAWs for afghan child diddlers but not for American citizens.
Seems backasswards....or not.
Posted by: Abolish The Federal Government Already at December 06, 2025 10:12 AM (R/m4+)
250
>>I generally have a lot of respect for your views Lizzy, but here we differ
Understood. Had my dog during my MA years, so I learned to love it. So beautiful and peaceful, except when it was wicked windy.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:12 AM (GbwPZ)
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Will Smith will slap the shit out of the aliens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:12 AM (L/fGl)
252
That would be FenelonSpoke. For the newbies here. Who put in a lot of faith and prayer into the list.
Posted by: runner at December 06, 2025 10:12 AM (g47mK)
253Some crank kept pestering them “Where’s the money?” so they printed up a bunch of them in lieu of the ledgerbook entries, they are kept in a manila folder in a locked metal file cabinet in an office at the Bureau of Public Debt in Parkersburg, West Virgina.
I'm relieved to know that they have hard-copy receipts on file in an abandoned coal mine in West Virginia because I was afraid that a District Judge would free up the twin brothers Muneeb and Sohaib Akhter from prison so that they can erase yet another government database.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:13 AM (a4flb)
254
>>You'd be surprised how many wacky things happen on islands in the North Atlantic in early December.
. . . just don't ask for a Nantucket sleigh ride!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:13 AM (GbwPZ)
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Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 10:01 AM (AN2gy)
June 19th is not a real holiday, so nothing should be done to commemorate it.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 06, 2025 10:13 AM (R86kT)
256Suggest he write individual thank you notes to those he interviews with, if he doesn't do that already.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025
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That little move alone will make him stand out. Way back in '95, I interviewed with the guy who would be my future boss at my first computer job. As I'd been taught, I sent him a thank-you note. After I started working for him later that year, he mentioned I had been *the only one* of his interviewees to do that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:13 AM (wzUl9)
257
But Diana is not going on a trip.
Posted by: Hadrian the Sevent
Injustice!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 06, 2025 10:14 AM (DoBxX)
258
Someone here will know. On Westerns, they have a sound effect they play for dramatic scenes, a gunfight or whatever. Kind of like a rattle snake. Or a boot spur being spun. What is that?
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 10:09 AM (2VfHu)
A vibra slap? Ozzie used one on Crazy Train.
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 06, 2025 10:14 AM (van9r)
Posted by: Joe B. from Scranton at December 06, 2025 10:14 AM (Y1sOo)
260
A dog makes all the difference. I miss my dogs most days. But travel requirements make dog ownership tougher nowadays, since our dog sitting neighbor moved away. I never liked putting my dogs in kennels.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 06, 2025 10:15 AM (ASw1o)
261I suspect that when I move North, I'm going to need a gym for workouts on cold mornings, near and below freezing, or I'll have to buy a treadmill.
Good grief, get a set of kettle bells and watch some Youtube videos.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:15 AM (a4flb)
262
Good morning
Just finished getting caught up with all of you. Took a while.Finishing second cup of coffee and trying to decide if I'm hungry enough to make breakfast.
My life very unexciting right now.
263
Minnesota Nice should be replaced with Minnesota Retard. They should also redo the state flag into a Kick Me sign.
Posted by: Vengeance at December 06, 2025 10:16 AM (Py+sj)
264
Jake Tapper Calls J6 Pipe Bomb Suspect a "White Man," Photos Tell a Different Story
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And Jake Tapper is a "Smart Man."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:16 AM (L/fGl)
265I suspect that when I move North, I'm going to need a gym for workouts on cold mornings, near and below freezing, or I'll have to buy a treadmill.
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Good grief, get a set of kettle bells and watch some Youtube videos.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025
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Sure, I can do some weight work. But I'm a long-time cardio boy as well. Even something like a Planet Fitness (urgh) would be better than doing nothing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:17 AM (wzUl9)
266
Good thing I'm not there anymore.
I'd have to kick that governor's ass every day and twice on Sunday for taking my act.
Posted by: The ghost of Don Rickles at December 06, 2025 10:18 AM (XQo4F)
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Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:17 AM (wzUl9)
Just do a brisk walk of 20 minutes or so. That'll get your heart rate up.
Posted by: dantesed at December 06, 2025 10:19 AM (Oy/m2)
268
Wolfus, if you dress for it, a walk on the brisk winter air is invigorating. Just tell someone your route so they can find the body.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 06, 2025 10:20 AM (kpS4V)
269
>>Understood. Had my dog during my MA years, so I learned to love it. So beautiful and peaceful, except when it was wicked windy.
No wind today. Cloudy and overcast. Elvis and I are headed to the beach soon and then we have to go welcome Santa.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:20 AM (viF8m)
270
>>Minnesota Nice should be replaced with Minnesota Retard. They should also redo the state flag into a Kick Me sign.
WSJ print version has a letter to the editor from someone who moved to OH after a lifetime in MN over the fraud, but goes to great length to explain that it's the fault of the government officials who allowed it. You see, all the Somalis she knew were disgusted by the fraud, and so very sad it persisted in MN after having so much of it in their homeland.
Amazing how some people are so committed to not being 'racist' they cannot blame the most obvious bad actors in the scenario.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:20 AM (GbwPZ)
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Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:10 AM (GbwPZ
Yes; He has done that before . Thanks .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:29 AM (6jy2V)
284
Good thing I'm not there anymore.
I'd have to kick that governor's ass every day and twice on Sunday for taking my act.
Posted by: The ghost of Don Rickles
I don't get no respect.
Posted by: Twinkle Toes "Rodney Dangerfield" Walz at December 06, 2025 10:29 AM (L/fGl)
285
The average IQ of Somalia is 68. We consider 70 the begging of mental retardation. It also means that half of the distribution is BELOW 68.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at December 06, 2025 10:30 AM (cxFcK)
286 Having grown up in NE,I didn't realize you could actually swim in the ocean until I went to Florida for,the first,time.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
The East River is always available.
https://youtu.be/rdQXtmGuQUY
Posted by: Kramer at December 06, 2025 10:30 AM (XQo4F)
287
You'd think that a two hour jet lag would be easy to overcome. Well. Being over 29, not so much anymore. I barely thru breakfast and I'm ready for a nap. Thank God for coffee.
Morning Hordemates!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 10:31 AM (2WIwB)
288
>> I agree with CBD. Having grown up in NE,I didn't realize you could actually swim in the ocean until I went to Florida for,the first,time.
There is a group of certified old farts that live in town and they swim pretty much every single day, year round.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:31 AM (viF8m)
289
>>Lizzy, I hate to break it to you, but NE doesn't have any beaches!
Heh, confusing New England with Nebraska. Must be from NY. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:32 AM (GbwPZ)
U.S. Military Strike Kills Four Narco‑Terrorists, Destroys Drug Vessel in Caribbean
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:22 AM (L/fGl)
I deeply love that answer to all of the “you killed poor innocent fishermen!” bullshit. The cartels probably thought they were good to go again.
Best part - each strike costs the cartels $50 -$100 million in lost revenue.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 10:32 AM (c7Ygk)
291
Tapper is the definition of
Believe me or your lying eyes
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 10:33 AM (Ia/+0)
292
"P" in the recent requests is me. Middlest Kidlet told us this week that she'd changed her name *3 years ago* and had "top surgery" a year ago.
She's autistic, and I'd suspected her new "friends" were encouraging her in this once she'd moved out. I hadn't realized it had progressed this far, since all communication is by text and computer not voice, and Inspector is completely blindsided.
We are both very angry at my M-I-L and other kids for saying nothing when they knew about this, her therapist and "friends" who encouraged her to try to erase the femininity she was uncomfortable with, and her for spending her inheritance on something that would have broken her Daddy's heart. Inspector is depressed because he blames himself, even though she carefully hid this, and can't relieve his feelings by hunting down and ending those who did this to her.
As you can see, there is a lot that needs prayed about. Wisdom, peace, reconciliation to reality, for a start.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 06, 2025 10:33 AM (lFFaq)
293
Best part - each strike costs the cartels $50 -$100 million in lost revenue.
Posted by: Tom Servo
It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.
Posted by: Kramer at December 06, 2025 10:34 AM (XQo4F)
294U.S. Military Strike Kills Four Narco‑Terrorists, Destroys Drug Vessel in Caribbean
I have to give the cartels credit for more stamina than I expected. I figured after three or four boats sunk just to prove that the first two weren't flukes, they'd stop sending them until they figured out something else. Instead, they just keep loading up inventory and soldiers and sending them out to keep getting splashed. Do they think we're going to run out of missiles any day now?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 06, 2025 10:34 AM (3nLb4)
295
Rubio Says Venezuelan Government a “Transshipment Organization” for Drug Trafficking
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I guess we're eliminating the middle man. With extreme prejudice.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:34 AM (L/fGl)
296
Someone here will know. On Westerns, they have a sound effect they play for dramatic scenes, a gunfight or whatever. Kind of like a rattle snake. Or a boot spur being spun. What is that?
Posted by: Common Tater
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ummm, a spur spinning and a rattle snake shaking it's rattle...
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>>I deeply love that answer to all of the “you killed poor innocent fishermen!” bullshit. The cartels probably thought they were good to go again.
Best part - each strike costs the cartels $50 -$100 million in lost revenue.
Anyone mention this yet? Because it certainly explains why we haven't been so warlike in the past with our decades-long 'war on drugs.' How many others are compromised?
@Rightanglenews
BREAKING - The DEA’s chief financial director under Obama, Paul Campo, who resigned in 2016 ahead of Trump’s administration, had his Virginia home raided and has been charged for agreeing to launder $12 million for the CJNG, a Mexican cartel, while acting in his role at the DEA.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:36 AM (GbwPZ)
298SELF-MAXIMIZE: [What do you bring to] THE TABLE?
So I watched that video. There were a lot of take-aways.
The various bimbos that claimed "I am the table" are basically saying "my childish mindset and and fine rack".
They expect abs and a thick wallet.
OK, fine. The rack is diminishing, while the wallet, in a career oriented man, is increasing over time. So she needs to provide some sort of risk mitigation where his assets are appreciating while hers are depreciating in the form of something that can be improved (without plastic surgery) and a sincere will to improve.
The quick short-cut is, anyone who says "I am the table" is basically saying "I'm perfect the way I am and see no need for improvement" when the reality is that this person has no self-awareness, thus unable to process the abstraction of time over their worth as a human being in a relationship with another.
Definitely a No Go.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:36 AM (a4flb)
299
I have to give the cartels credit for more stamina than I expected. I figured after three or four boats sunk just to prove that the first two weren't flukes, they'd stop sending them until they figured out something else. Instead, they just keep loading up inventory and soldiers and sending them out to keep getting splashed. Do they think we're going to run out of missiles any day now?
Posted by: Oddbob
Kamikrazy Navy.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:36 AM (L/fGl)
300
Finally getting to hear this week's Cut Jib News podcast.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 10:36 AM (Ia/+0)
301
I tried to find out what a “cup” of coffee is in those places like Luxembourg but searching for anything these days suck. It varies widely from country to country so some of the difference is coffee per cup.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 06, 2025 10:37 AM (dLRVC)
302 As you can see, there is a lot that needs prayed about. Wisdom, peace, reconciliation to reality, for a start.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 06, 2025 10:33 AM (lFFaq)
Prayers for you and your family
Posted by: It's me donna at December 06, 2025 10:37 AM (VE6XX)
303
Yesterday a former high ranking DEA agent under Obama was indicted for trying to help a Mexican cartel launder $12 million and provide them with "military grade weapons".
https://tinyurl.com/ma2tdux4
For years we were told it was impossible to seal the southern border and we should accept some level of illegals pouring into the country. Trump sealed the border in a long weekend.
We are going to see the same thing with the cartels. They could have been stopped years ago but it was not in the interests of our deep state to do it.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:38 AM (viF8m)
304Do they think we're going to run out of missiles any day now?
Also knowing that you are part of a team blowing shit up is definitely a morale booster.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 10:38 AM (a4flb)
305
>>. . . As you can see, there is a lot that needs prayed about. Wisdom, peace, reconciliation to reality, for a start.
Words fail, Polliwog the 'Ette
Will pray for you and your daughter.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:39 AM (GbwPZ)
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@Rightanglenews
BREAKING - The DEA’s chief financial director under Obama, Paul Campo, who resigned in 2016 ahead of Trump’s administration, had his Virginia home raided and has been charged for agreeing to launder $12 million for the CJNG, a Mexican cartel, while acting in his role at the DEA.
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Public service works best when you know how to monetize it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 10:39 AM (JkO4W)
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***I suspect that when I move North, I'm going to need a gym for workouts on cold mornings, near and below freezing, or I'll have to buy a treadmill. The wind chill really gets to you. And I'd hate to slip on ice while walking or running.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 10:11 AM***
MBiC, that's the least of your problems
how are you going to go for weeks on end ( months, even) without washing your Buick because it's too cold?
Posted by: heywood the third at December 06, 2025 10:39 AM (YHzoo)
In case it hasn't been posted yet, JD had a funny anecdote about Trump and shoes. Marco wears 11.5. JD wears 13. I wonder who the unnamed politician is that wears a 7.
If you are using a six ft lead, try a longer lead with him. I use a 30 footer on Jake and coil it up when he is walking. I find I have better control, as I can let the lead out as needed.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 10:43 AM (+mUZM)
The average IQ in Somalia is 68, which is below the line for mental retardation. 7 out of 10 Somalians live in poverty. Their per capita GDP is 1,000 dollars (USA is 90,000). Somalia does not have a functional waste management system. The tallest fully constructed building in the country is 10 stories. So where is this Somali excellence exactly?
Aaboom16🇸🇴 @aaboom16
Whites are jealous coz they can’t compete with Somali excellence
X: https://bit.ly/44NjsXR
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 06, 2025 10:44 AM (P5BPp)
316
281 "Do all Somalis have that teardrop shaped head?"
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Yeah, WTF?
They look like some bizarre offshoot from the main line of hominids. But I'm sure one of them will cure cancer any day now.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 10:44 AM (JkO4W)
317
In case it hasn't been posted yet, JD had a funny anecdote about Trump and shoes. Marco wears 11.5. JD wears 13. I wonder who the unnamed politician is that wears a 7.
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/
1997132492747227450
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 10:41 AM (gWBY1)
Saw that.
Hilarious!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 10:44 AM (2WIwB)
318
The cartels know they just have to wait a few more years and all this goes away when their boys are back in charge here.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 06, 2025 10:45 AM (dLRVC)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:45 AM (L/fGl)
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Posted by: Boswell at December 06, 2025 09:42 AM
Thanks so much, Boswell!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:46 AM (1Vo6X)
321
>>The cartels know they just have to wait a few more years and all this goes away when their boys are back in charge here.
That's why Trump is so focused on removing Maduro. Venezuela has become ground zero for foreign meddling in the US by countries such as China and Iran and of course Hezbollah. Time to take away their sanctuary in our backyard.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 10:47 AM (viF8m)
322
Anyone know where, specifically, these narco-terrorist "go fast" boats are being interdicted?
I don't think the military has provided location data. The Caribbean is pretty big and those boats have limited range. Just curious... if they're sailing from Venezuelan waters or elsewhere.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 10:49 AM (NwnyJ)
323In case it hasn't been posted yet, JD had a funny anecdote about Trump and shoes. Marco wears 11.5. JD wears 13. I wonder who the unnamed politician is that wears a 7.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 10:41 AM
Anna Scott: You know what they say about men with big feet.
William Thatcher: No, I don't, actually. What's that?
Anna Scott: Big feet... large... shoes.
Posted by: Notting Hill at December 06, 2025 10:49 AM (P5BPp)
324
I was in Somalia for three months for the final UN pullout. He place is a true shithole. It was easy to feel sad for them, until they started shooting at you. After that, they're just pathetic targets. FACT: Somalia proves anyone with an IQ of 68 or less can still learn how to shoot an AK.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 10:49 AM (2WIwB)
325
Trump probably gifted them 4 pairs of $1000+ shoes. I doubt he had a catalog of any less than Allen Edmunds but probably something much more high end.
326
The average IQ in Somalia is 68, which is below the line for mental retardation. 7 out of 10 Somalians live in poverty. Their per capita GDP is 1,000 dollars (USA is 90,000)
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I would think that ilhan's incredible talent for wealth acquisition skews the average up by several hundred dollars at least.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 10:50 AM (JkO4W)
327
>>> You should be more concerned about the plastics used within the Monster energy drink cans, as the microplastics are linked to contaminants crossing the blood-brain barrier and leading to dementia and other brain-fog ailments.
Gross! Good to know.
My husband loves zero sugar energy drinks and Mountain Dew. But lately he's been buying G-Fuel online, powdered instead of the cans of Monster or Reign or whatever.
Well, his birthday I bought him a soda stream and the Mountain Dew syrups. Soda is so expensive in the stores. I mostly bought it to save money in the long run (I got the machine half off on prime day!) and because I hated doing late night soda runs if he ran out. Glad he loves the gift! He mixing up his soda in the morning and taking it to work.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 10:52 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: 496 at December 06, 2025 10:52 AM (oOhQ4)
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The average IQ in Somalia is 68, which is below the line for mental retardation. 7 out of 10 Somalians live in poverty. Their per capita GDP is 1,000 dollars (USA is 90,000)
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And add to this their "religion" which tells them it's ok to lie and steal from nonbelievers.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 10:52 AM (2WIwB)
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Posted by: runner at December 06, 2025 10:12 AM (g47mK
Thanks; I so appreciate that. I would like to praise dear and departed Oregon Muse who came up with the idea , for Annie's Stew in receiving the prayer requests after I left the role , and for MisHum for continuing to post it It is so important, I feel.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 10:53 AM (1Vo6X)
331
Somalia- spray and pray you don't shoot your brother
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 10:54 AM (Ia/+0)
332
Whoa. Someone was actually INDICTED for corruption.
https://tinyurl.com/45ptwdfn
Posted by: One of those people who says Nothing Will Happen at December 06, 2025 10:54 AM (XQo4F)
333
As you can see, there is a lot that needs prayed about. Wisdom, peace, reconciliation to reality, for a start.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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Sending prayers. I learned recently that a young woman I used to babysit *mumble* years ago has changed her name and probably is living as a "man." Her father just passed after a long hard fought battle with cancer. It is heartbreaking. And enraging.
334
I'm surprised that U.S. coffee consumption is that low. But unless they did something to standardize for cup size we may actually be higher. I personally drink 1 or 1.x truck stop mugs of coffee a day and many ceramic coffee mugs hold 12 ounces. Europeans probably drink 2+ demitasse (sp?) cups per day that are barely 4 ounces each.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 10:57 AM (hhkIi)
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Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 06, 2025 10:43 AM (VCgbV)
She's 24. Don't know about hormones. She is calling herself non-binary, so hopefully won't take that step. The thing is, I *understand* a lot of what drove her to this because I went through it myself when much younger. If she'd said *anything* we may have been able to help.
It doesn't help that she was an absolutely stunningly beautiful child (and it wasn't just me saying that) and a very pretty young woman. Being autistic, she found the attention it drew anywhere from uncomfortable to downright creepy and frightening. It made her easy prey for those who get off on destroying beauty.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 06, 2025 10:57 AM (lFFaq)
336
>>>Whoa. Someone was actually INDICTED for corruption.
"Armed federal agents swarmed the Oakton home of Paul Campo, a former top DEA official accused of planning to launder over $12 million."
When you get to stealing $8 billion, call us. *laughs in Somalian*
Posted by: Somalis in Minnesota at December 06, 2025 10:57 AM (gWBY1)
337
Portland jury acquits black man who stabbed a white man because the white guy said the "N-word" AFTER he was stabbed
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Silence may be violence but so is speech. His duty was to bleed quietly.
https://is.gd/N00Vrj
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:59 AM (L/fGl)
338
Pollywog way beyond my expertise, some young woman not wanting that opposite affection sometimes make themselves obesity. Guess it's the same defense mentality
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 11:01 AM (Ia/+0)
339
HHS updated the nameplate on Admiral Levine's portrait to properly reflect reality
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Regarding Doctor Levine, the NPR piece referred to him as an Admiral in the Public Health Service, a medical leader and a woman. When in fact:
1. He was born a male, socially transitioned in his 50s after being married with two children. He is not a woman. And I don't care what pronouns he prefers, the grammatically correct pronouns are he/him/his.
2. Prior to his appointment as Deputy Sec'y of HHS he never served in the Public Health Service, wore the uniform or attained any prior rank. His immediate appointment and elevation to the rank of Admiral was purely political and ceremonial, and not earned. It should have been offensive to career officers of the Health Service.
3. He is not now and never was a leader in the field of medicine. In the years I knew him in medical school he was at best a dullard. As a physician he parroted the party line of the AAP and WPATH, pushing the so-called transitioning of minors. His medical practice focused on affirming the gender delusions of teens and preadolescents.
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 11:01 AM (/iMjX)
340
Bibi says he'll still visit NYC despite Mamdani's threat to arrest him
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Could get spicy.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 11:02 AM (L/fGl)
341Posted by: Lizzy at December 06, 2025 10:32 AM (GbwPZ)
342
Polli,
Hopefully she doesn’t/didn't take hormones. It's awful that she mutilated herself but she can recover otherwise down the road if no hormones were taken. Many of these kids wind up changing their minds as they mature and realize they made a very bad mistake. Praying for her and your family!🙏
Socialist Mamdani Vows to Let Homeless Run Wild in New York City
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 06, 2025 10:21 AM (L/fGl)
Second go at our rickshaw service idea?
Posted by: Kramer & Newman at December 06, 2025 11:03 AM (wVcYX)
344
Maybe I missed it but I am surprised that the commies are not pushing a narrative that blowing up the drug boats is killing innocent fish and seabirds etc. Perhaps they don't want to remind people that these drugs are toxic.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 11:05 AM (hhkIi)
I am 100% for shelter dogs and finding loving homes for them all. They deserve it. But we had to get a hypoallergenic dog because of allergies. Our doodle pup has blessed our lives and made it richer. If we hadn't gotten him, it wouldn't have saved a shelter dog's life. We would just have no dog. And that would be a tragedy.
Karens need to stop Karen-ing and get a life. That woman clearly has a hole in her soul. But scolding others won't fill it.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:10 AM (gWBY1)
352
Insty:
Europe needs to decide whether it’s America’s friend or America’s foe. Europe can’t have it both ways.
the US has long failed to address the glaring inconsistency between its relations with NATO and the EU. These are almost all the same countries in both organizations. When these countries wear their NATO hats, they insist that Transatlantic cooperation is the cornerstone of our mutual security. But when these countries wear their EU hats, they pursue all sorts of agendas that are often utterly adverse to US interests and security—including censorship, economic suicide/climate fanaticism, open borders, disdain for national sovereignty/promotion of multilateral governance and taxation, support for Communist Cuba, etc etc. This inconsistency cannot continue. Either the great nations of Europe are our partners in protecting the Western civilization that we inherited from them or they are not. But we cannot pretend that we are partners while those nations allow the EU’s unelected, undemocratic, and unrepresentative bureaucracy in Brussels to pursue policies of civilizational suicide.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:11 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: callsign claymore at December 06, 2025 11:11 AM (E7tow)
354 Maybe I missed it but I am surprised that the commies are not pushing a narrative that blowing up the drug boats is killing innocent fish and seabirds etc. Perhaps they don't want to remind people that these drugs are toxic.
Is it OK to blow up the boats if they were bringing in mustard gas or nukes? Or no boeno?
Fentanyl killed over a 100k last year - so it definitely clears the hurdle of being deemed toxic.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:11 AM (a4flb)
355
Those weirdly-shaped heads of the Somalis might be because their brains are small!
356
336 >>>Whoa. Someone was actually INDICTED for corruption.
"Armed federal agents swarmed the Oakton home of Paul Campo, a former top DEA official accused of planning to launder over $12 million."
When you get to stealing $8 billion, call us. *laughs in Somalian*
Posted by: Somalis in Minnesota at December 06, 2025 10:57 AM (gWBY1)
This is actually a very significant story - he was the former CFO for the DEA, under Obama. I strongly believe, and I think this is evidence, that large parts of the DEA (as well as other agencies, both Federal and State) have been working as allies with the Cartels for a long time. I think this guy was a Cartel asset the entire time he was working for the DEA.
This is why the attacks on the drug boats terrify so much of "Polite Society". It threatens to end the game that has enriched so many of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:12 AM (uWKK8)
357
Muldoon, thanks for the inside take on Levine. He's a fitting symbol of whatever one would call the state of much of America in the last 10-15 years.
UDUP, how do you roast your coffee? Curious if a dedicated roaster is needed to make the whole effort worth it, and what those might run in $.
Per the busted DEA executive. Seems fairly likely this could be big, in that such an arrest normally leads to unraveling a much wider corruption situation. Campo is fairly highly placed, and presumably a plea deal could yield a lot of stuff implicating many others.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 11:12 AM (U/Byj)
358Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:10 AM (gWBY1)
Please use a URL shortening app. You are blowing the margins for some phone users.
359
As a physician he parroted the party line of the AAP and WPATH, pushing the so-called transitioning of minors. His medical practice focused on affirming the gender delusions of teens and preadolescents.
——
Check the crawlspace at his previous homes. He’s a kiddie fucker, guaranteed
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 11:13 AM (IY3/h)
Every time I rewatch this, I find something new to love. The pained look on his face. The constant chewing but not swallowing because he isn’t sure he can keep it down if he does. The frenetic pointless rearranging of the slop in the bowl to give the appearance of engaging with the meal while doing everything possible to not eat it.
johnny maga @_johnnymaga
Lmfaooo. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey holding on for dear life as he dines in a Somali restaurant to stick it to Trump.
This is one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen.
X video: https://bit.ly/3KM2tP1
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 06, 2025 11:14 AM (P5BPp)
Pollliwog, my heart goes out to you. I hope your family and especially your Daughter (no matter what she calls herself) heals from this hellscape.
Posted by: Moki at December 06, 2025 11:14 AM (wLjpr)
362Europe needs to decide whether it’s America’s friend or America’s foe. Europe can’t have it both ways.
its like Uncle Sam is dating Eve†
† of the Three Faces of Eve movie
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:15 AM (a4flb)
363
The cartels are also heavily involved in human trafficking. During *biden's reign they were responsible for hundreds of thousands of woman and children being sold into sex and slavery.
Our government paid for it.
This was alluded to early in Trump's current term by at least two cabinet members. No specifics were given at the time.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:16 AM (NwnyJ)
364
Oh no!!! Sorry CBD! I'll repost and you can delete my other comment.
Hadrian, in case you haven't seen, pray you never meet this woman on a walking trail.
https://tinyurl.com/2zdmsvjn
I am 100% for shelter dogs and finding loving homes for them all. They deserve it. But we had to get a hypoallergenic dog because of allergies. Our doodle pup has blessed our lives and made it richer. If we hadn't gotten him, it wouldn't have saved a shelter dog's life. We would just have no dog. And that would be a tragedy.
Karens need to stop Karen-ing and get a life. That woman clearly has a hole in her soul. But scolding others won't fill it.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:16 AM (gWBY1)
365
Europe needs to decide whether it’s America’s friend or America’s foe. Europe can’t have it both ways.
The Old Europeans = Friends
The "New" Europeans = Not Friends
Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 11:18 AM (2WIwB)
366
Muldoon, you seem less than fond of DocLevine. Understand why given your specialty.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 11:18 AM (sl73Y)
367
The roasters are junk, for the most part. Good concept, poor execution. I paid a small fortune for one with all the bells and whistles. Held 1/2 cup of green beans. If you can’t roast a pound at a time, forget about it. Loud as hell, and it soon horked. Turns out high heat and electronics, LCD display, etc, don’t get along.
What you probably want is a drum roaster. The tech goes back centuries. Can use on about anything. Makes copious smoke. Even a cast iron skillet and wooden spoon works excellent. That’s how they probably do it in the wilds of Brazil.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 11:18 AM (IY3/h)
368
That tension between EU and European NATO behavior on matters of mutual interest has existed for a long time. Predating it by a smidge is an even more fundamental problem: NATO's raison d'etre after 1991.
This was discussed - loudly and angrily - immediately after the Soviet collapse, within actual foreign policy circles, though mostly in private. The expansionists never won an argument (or even really made much sense) but won the war, along with inertia.
It's almost amusing that the current administration's approach just ignores the fundamental question, and focuses on burden-sharing and budget %s, neither of which are really the point. The wry way of putting it would be "the 1960s called and they want their Mansfield Amendment back."
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 11:19 AM (U/Byj)
369The Old Europeans = Friends
The "New" Europeans = Not Friends
Is that backwards? I thought the "New" Euros were the former Soviet bloc countries.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
370
366 Muldoon, you seem less than fond of DocLevine. Understand why given your specialty.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 11:18 AM (sl73Y)
this is certainly not meant to denigrate Muldoon; but I would loathe anyone I ran across who *was* fond of that louse Levine.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 11:20 AM (uWKK8)
371
Pro tip: don't snack on several ounces of almonds. The belly ache and shits are spectacular, long lasting.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 06, 2025 11:21 AM (Kt19C)
372UDUP, how do you roast your coffee? Curious if a dedicated roaster is needed to make the whole effort worth it, and what those might run in $.
For the first year, I was perfectly happy doing small batches (3-4oz) using an air popcorn popper I picked up at Goodwill for $5
Now using a Behmor for ½ pound at a time roasts (smaller usually means better consistency per roast). Though the Behmor, due to its design is sort of a Roast-n-Coast since it takes forever to cool the beans, so right at first crack I'll pop open the door and hit it for 30-40seconds with a small leaf blower to cool the chamber and the beans.
With both the air popper and the open-door cooling method of the Behmor - it will make a tremendous mess of silverskin from the bean. Do it outdoors or in the garage near the door. Normal Behmor operations discharge only a pleasant roasted bean smell to the environs.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:21 AM (a4flb)
373UDUP, how do you roast your coffee? Curious if a dedicated roaster is needed to make the whole effort worth it, and what those might run in $.
For the first year, I was perfectly happy doing small batches (3-4oz) using an air popcorn popper I picked up at Goodwill for $5
Now using a Behmor for ½ pound at a time roasts (smaller usually means better consistency per roast). Though the Behmor, due to its design is sort of a Roast-n-Coast since it takes forever to cool the beans, so right at first crack I'll pop open the door and hit it for 30-40seconds with a small leaf blower to cool the chamber and the beans.
With both the air popper and the open-door cooling method of the Behmor - it will make a tremendous mess of silverskin from the bean. Do it outdoors or in the garage near the door. Normal Behmor operations discharge only a pleasant roasted bean smell to the environs.
This sounds more like a job than what I want.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:22 AM (Riz8t)
374Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:16 AM (gWBY1)
No worries! I edited your original comment. The margins are slim and happy!
375
Phrenology makes a comeback!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2025 11:11 AM (GLocS)
**********
Knot gonna happen...
Posted by: muldoon at December 06, 2025 11:23 AM (/iMjX)
376
>>Per the busted DEA executive. Seems fairly likely this could be big, in that such an arrest normally leads to unraveling a much wider corruption situation. Campo is fairly highly placed, and presumably a plea deal could yield a lot of stuff implicating many others.
We've been living in a sort of Matrix like world where we focus on the next shiny object in the public sphere while a lot of the real action is taking place behind the scene. Another example, there is no way that the Biden crime family was scooping on foreign cash by the truck load in places like Ukraine without the knowledge and blessing of the intel community. The place was basically being run by the CIA, they knew everything that was going on and did nothing.
Fast forward to the Biden fake presidency and he helps start a war in Ukraine where nearly $200 billion of our tax dollars disappeared into the ether. Much of that money went straight back to politicians in DC and the intel community.
If the intel community is not brought to heel we will never get out of this cycle. The CIA should be closed. It is beyond reform.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:23 AM (viF8m)
377 Pro tip: don't snack on several ounces of almonds. The belly ache and shits are spectacular, long lasting.
You realize that some AI engine is scooping up this advice and will appear some day in ChatGPT.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:23 AM (a4flb)
379
Thanks for cleaning up after me CBD! AOS Cobs are the best Cobs.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:24 AM (gWBY1)
380
This doesn't need to be on the prayer list yet, but on Monday, I'm going in for a blood test to see if the IVF implantation worked. I am far, far more nervous/stressed than the last round that gave us Lil Pooky, because this is our only girl embryo. This is our one shot to give Pookette a sister. So, yeah, I'm nervous.
Posted by: pookysgirl needs Monday to get here at December 06, 2025 11:24 AM (Wt5PA)
Normal operations means you pour a half pound of green beans (at $7/lb) into the cage, push two buttons and come back to a fresh batch of beans in 20 minutes.
Its easier than toasting a bagel.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:25 AM (a4flb)
382 "Now using a Behmor for ½ pound at a time roasts (smaller usually means better consistency per roast). Though the Behmor, due to its design is sort of a Roast-n-Coast since it takes forever to cool the beans, so right at first crack I'll pop open the door and hit it for 30-40seconds with a small leaf blower to cool the chamber and the beans.
With both the air popper and the open-door cooling method of the Behmor - it will make a tremendous mess of silverskin from the bean. Do it outdoors or in the garage near the door."
+++
You know we sell ground coffee ready to brew, right?
Posted by: The grocery store at December 06, 2025 11:25 AM (XQo4F)
383
The Old Europeans = Friends
The "New" Europeans = Not Friends
Is that backwards? I thought the "New" Euros were the former Soviet bloc countries.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 06, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
I should of been more clear.
New Europeans = All the Mohammedians moving in.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 06, 2025 11:26 AM (2WIwB)
386
Thanks UDUP. I'm a reloader, so not averse to DIY when it comes to some basics. But I might not be ready for the roasting thing, perhaps apart from a cast iron pan.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 06, 2025 11:28 AM (U/Byj)
I bought silicone molds to make bagels at home, since they can get pricey buying them all the time. But I realized I'd rather just buy them at the store. I'm too lazy to make bagels from scratch.
Bread on the other hand... love my bread maker! We are saving so much money baking bread at home.
Posted by: LizLem at December 06, 2025 11:29 AM (gWBY1)
388
I don't think it was drip, but there is a horde member that is into roasting coffee and shared the wisdom that with roasting coffee, super fresh is not the best. I don't think I would manage the planning to roast a new bit of coffee 4-7 days or whatever before I was going to need it.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 11:29 AM (hhkIi)
I assure you that not a single person has griped or complained about the quality of the output.
Roasters allow you to manage the heat and cooling profiles. While the Behmor has a tendancy to under-roast beans, and the lawyers put in a baby-sitting mode where you physically have to be around the thing right before it kicks into cooling mode, I like the ability to roast different beans and empirically evaluate the smoke, the crack and the color during the process becaues each batch is slightly different.
FWIW, decaf beans are difficult to roast because there are none of the traditional signals like crack, smoke and color. You have to actually use those infra-red heat probes to measure the external bean temperature if you are particular about the result.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:31 AM (a4flb)
390
I do buy whole bean roasted coffee and grind fresh every morning for my french press.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2025 11:31 AM (hhkIi)
391
Ok, let's see. Air fryer. Leaf blower. Plunger. Channel Locks. Putty knife. Propane torch.
Let's make a cup of coffee!
Posted by: Because it tastes better at December 06, 2025 11:31 AM (XQo4F)
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> If the intel community is not brought to heel we will never get out of this cycle. The CIA should be closed. It is beyond reform.
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The CIA is self supporting. They've got so many fronts making money for their ops they don't need federal funding. Like you said; the Agency is beyond reform, but it's also ungovernable and totally self sufficient.
How do you deal with that? I've no clue.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 06, 2025 11:33 AM (NwnyJ)
393
In the next town over there is a small strip of stores located together. Excellent coffee roaster/shop, fantastic butcher shop, seafood shop and a cigar bar.
If someone opens a brothel I might sell my house and by and RV and live in the parking lot.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:33 AM (viF8m)
394I don't think I would manage the planning to roast a new bit of coffee 4-7 days or whatever before I was going to need it.
I roast several pounds in one session of different varieties. I find that the high elevation Central American beans don't profit from that one-two week maturation.
Kenyans and Ethiopian beans, yeah. Especially the dry processed Indonesians prefer some outgassing time.
The rule is: start a new session a week before the existing inventory is exhausted. No planning necessary. If I have any beans extra, I bag them up and give them to the pastor or my barber.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:34 AM (a4flb)
395Ok, let's see. Air fryer. Leaf blower. Plunger. Channel Locks. Putty knife. Propane torch.
Let's make a cup of coffee!
Wasn't that a MacGyver episode?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:35 AM (a4flb)
396 You know we sell ground coffee ready to brew, right?
Rule Of Fifteen:
• fifteen months from harvest before beans go stale.
• fifteen days after roasting before beans go stale
• fifteen minutes after grinding before beans go stale.
And I doubt your grocery store keeps roasted or ground beans in the refrigerator before you pick them up. And yes, those beans sit in multiple warehouses and truck trailers before sitting on your grocery shelf.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 11:38 AM (a4flb)
397
The way I drink coffee you think I was from Luxembourg and/or the world's richest man. H/T Helena Handbasket
https://archive.is/WGxve
(archived site for the article linked in the post)
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 11:43 AM (RuTUS)
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393 In the next town over there is a small strip of stores located together. Excellent coffee roaster/shop, fantastic butcher shop, seafood shop and a cigar bar.
If someone opens a brothel I might sell my house and by and RV and live in the parking lot.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 06, 2025 11:33 AM (viF8m)
It's a shame this got willowed!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 11:46 AM (RuTUS)
399
Been interesting to see all the discussion about coffee but not one word about the water. You can improve the taste of most hotel/motel coffee by simply using distilled or bottled water instead of the tap water. Chorine levels and other additives can play havoc with the taste of coffee in terms of expectations of how it should taste.
The interplay of water with the coffee beans at high heat means that often people prefer whatever they got used to because that is 'normal' which is the combination of their coffee beans and whatever passes for water in their specific locality.
I think the big coffee store merchants all used filtered water to get the same consistency in taste between stores.
Posted by: whig at December 06, 2025 11:55 AM (WDjG6)
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390 I do buy whole bean roasted coffee and grind fresh every morning for my french press.
Posted by: PaleRid
I just use a Mr Coffee machine but I also buy whole bean coffee. I buy Trader Joe's medium roast and French roast, mis the beans to get just the right strength that I like. Use light cream. Perfect.
Not because I particularly need a new system, though this one is a lot better than my two existing Beelink units (twice the speed, memory*, and storage).
Mostly because it comes with 64GB of RAM and only costs $50 more than the RAM alone.
Looks like it's completely sold out in the US already.
Update: Placed the order just four hours ago and it's already shipped. Should have it by Friday.
* The existing units only came with 8GB of RAM, so as shipped the new one has eight times as much. But I already had RAM for those left over from upgrading my laptops, back when that was cheap to do.
That's a little unfair. Logitech's webcams use discriminative AI to keep you centered in the frame, for example, and to mute background noise. Other companies, though:
Faber argued that the wave of AI-first gadgets released over the past year remains untethered from a clear purpose. Products such as the Humane AI Pin - acquired by HP in February - and Rabbit R1 launched with the promise of replacing parts of the smartphone experience, only to draw criticism for slow performance, limited features, and subscription-driven pricing.
The upcoming unnamed product from OpenAI looks to be another screenless phone piece of overpriced junk.
Their reception has shaped the debate around whether a general-purpose assistant belongs in a dedicated device at all. According to Faber, these early efforts solve little that a phone or PC cannot already handle, which is a view that has gained traction as both devices incorporate larger on-device models and tighter integrations with cloud assistants.
As annoying as AI is, dedicated AI devices are even worse.
That's Intel as a manufacturer, not Intel as a designer. They'll still be "Apple Silicon", but Apple has booked space on Intel's 18A production line to start fabricating chips now that TSMC is 100% sold out.
According to court documents, Muneeb Akhter deleted roughly 96 databases containing U.S. government information in February 2025, including Freedom of Information Act records and sensitive investigative documents from multiple federal agencies.
One minute after deleting a Department of Homeland Security database, Muneeb Akhter also allegedly asked an artificial intelligence tool for instructions on clearing system logs after deleting a database.
Fill the cell in with cement. Then go after whoever hired these people.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 06, 2025 04:04 AM (pIfcn)
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>>>Logitech's webcams use discriminative AI to keep you centered in the frame, for example, and to mute background noise.
Keeping you centered in the frame and muting background noise sounds like mathy computing tech algorithms or something but not really Artificial Intelligence, tho.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:06 AM (RuTUS)
Polymarket
@Polymarket
Dec 4
BREAKING: Within the past 72 hours:
- Apple's AI Chief steps down
- Apple's Head of UI Design leaves to Meta
- Apple's Policy Chief steps down
- Apple's Head of General Counsel steps down
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:36 AM (RuTUS)
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Yeah, I saw those Apple departures. Not sure what is going on over there, though none of those people are notable success stories.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 06, 2025 04:39 AM (BLOW1)
13
Keeping you centered in the frame and muting background noise sounds like mathy computing tech algorithms or something but not really Artificial Intelligence, tho.
_-_
Yeah, most of the marketing gas these days has AI in it somewhere....kinda like all-natural, high fidelity, DIGITAL, High Definition. And the stuff that actually is AI, well, not THAT useful yet.
Posted by: Don innSoCo at December 06, 2025 04:49 AM (vd6bO)
14
Bought one of those mini computers with impressive amounts of RAM and enough connectors to run just about anything I have. The only thing it doesn't have is all those flashing LED's and whirling fan LED's that add nothing but look cool. Didn't really need it, but its small enough to put on a table and its not very visible to anyone. Happy with it and the price was right. Two M.2 slots, and turns on a few seconds. Those little ones have got to be the future of home computers, as I like bigger screens than a laptop, or watching a movie on a tiny phone screen..
Posted by: Colin at December 06, 2025 04:51 AM (wlQdF)
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I don't know Polymarket. The comments are pretty dumb, but this one's funny:
Dec 5
Tesla buys Apple & the fun begins.
... and prompted some engaging comments, like:
Totally Legitimate Person
@selfstyldpundit
9h
Tesla’s market cap is 1.4 trillion. Apple’s is 4.1 trillion. You can keep fantasizing but if there’s a sale it’s going the other way.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:51 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Just Wondering at December 06, 2025 04:52 AM (XQo4F)
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13 Yeah, most of the marketing gas these days has AI in it somewhere....kinda like all-natural, high fidelity, DIGITAL, High Definition.
Posted by: Don innSoCo at December 06, 2025 04:49 AM (vd6bO)
high-fiber
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:55 AM (RuTUS)
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16 Birdbath status?
_-_
Ain't no birdbath around here... If they was, I'd a seen it.
Posted by: Don innSoCo at December 06, 2025 04:55 AM (vd6bO)
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17 13 Yeah, most of the marketing gas these days has AI in it somewhere....kinda like all-natural, high fidelity, DIGITAL, High Definition.
Posted by: Don innSoCo at December 06, 2025 04:49 AM (vd6bO)
high-fiber
Lite, Low Fat, non GMO
Posted by: Don innSoCo at December 06, 2025 04:58 AM (vd6bO)
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12 Yeah, I saw those Apple departures. Not sure what is going on over there, though none of those people are notable success stories.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 06, 2025 04:39 AM (BLOW1)
It seems that C-suite techies (higher than these, I think) come and go.
(talking of Michelangelo)
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:01 AM (RuTUS)
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The 'muting background noise' has been a problem of late with a lot of videoconferencing tools. Try doing a music lesson on one of them...they decide that difficult passage you are playing for the student is background noise....fiddle witht the settings as recommended and still...about two notes and the music goes away.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 05:07 AM (vd6bO)
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 05:20 AM (AN2gy)
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I haven't seen bunnies this early in the AM since last February or so. We have a solid crust so I assume it showed up because it would be a good place to forage.
I had finished with most bird feeder task and gone in the house, but I came back out with a little dog.
Bun Bun slowly retreated, but when I looked from the kitchen window it was back, munching away at cracked corn and millet.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 05:25 AM (AN2gy)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 06, 2025 05:26 AM (a1415)
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S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night by The Bay City Rollers was released 49 years ago.
49.
That's like a half a century ago.
Or more.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 06, 2025 05:26 AM (XQo4F)
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>>> Two government contractors who were sentenced to prison in 2015 after being caught hacking government computers have been indicted for hacking government computers again after being rehired after their prison sentences ended.
There needs to be firings through several layers of management.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 05:28 AM (AN2gy)
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29 S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night by The Bay City Rollers was released 49 years ago.
49.
That's like a half a century ago.
Or more.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 06, 2025 05:26 AM (XQo4F)
In a world of 30-year generations, that's, like, gettin' on to two generations.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:30 AM (RuTUS)
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Tried a schedule restart on my phone but don't think it restarted, didn't act like it was shutdown.
Was looking up my issue of no.media sounds and does say not restarted ( a few weeks now) could be the problem.
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:30 AM (Ia/+0)
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Does anyone know -of course you do- 🙂how to get my phone off of private mode, so I don't have to keep filling in my handle and name which because of my poor typing on a tiny keyboard comes up sounding something like Dutch or that I've been having early morning drinking.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 05:31 AM (zMLZ6)
Good morning, good people. Winter is finally here, next Wednesday before it breaks out of the teens.
With snow.
Please enjoy the usual max benefit from your effort, while giggling at the leftwit fungi squirming under their utter wretchedness.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2025 05:37 AM (vFbHf)
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S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night by The Bay City Rollers was released 49 years ago.
Ned's Atomic Dustbin covered it about 20 years later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjQhkdqMUI
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 05:37 AM (AN2gy)
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Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 06, 2025 05:32 AM (XQo4F)
So, not a big fan of cell phones, eh?😉 Me either.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 05:38 AM (Nx5jP)
41
I have a solution, switch to my new phone.
But this one still mostly works and is fine ither than it has no media sound
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:42 AM (Ia/+0)
42
Kind friends from North Dakota help farmer complete his final harvest:
https://tinyurl.com/56xn2dy2
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 05:42 AM (ix8EF)
43
34 Get a bigger hammer.
_-_
Actually did that to mine once...kinda therapeutic, really....Dropped it on the ground and it started freaking out like it was possessed....screen was spiderwebbed, and it was like the screen was pushing buttons, but my sledgehammer handled the job nicely, put it out of its misery....wife insisted I buy a new phone, though, dagnabit.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 05:43 AM (vd6bO)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 05:44 AM (Cjt/F)
45One minute after deleting a Department of Homeland Security database, Muneeb Akhter...
'Homeland Security'. 'Muneeb Akhter'...
I already see the problem, and it isn't the 34-year-old "Virginia Man", as the DOJ describes him.
Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2025 05:45 AM (f4tQo)
46
First graders help save their teachers life. Sunny Sky's site:
https://tinyurl.com/3d9cxksk
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 05:46 AM (ix8EF)
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43 34 Get a bigger hammer.
_-_
Actually did that to mine once...kinda therapeutic, really....Dropped it on the ground and it started freaking out like it was possessed....screen was spiderwebbed, and it was like the screen was pushing buttons, but my sledgehammer handled the job nicely, put it out of its misery....
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 06, 2025 05:43 AM (vd6bO)
hahahahaha great story
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:47 AM (RuTUS)
48
"There needs to be firings through several layers of management."
And decide that a "Department of Homeland Security" was a bad fucking idea from the get-go and get rid of it.
Posted by: Richard Cranium at December 06, 2025 05:49 AM (1JufS)
49
Wildfire uncovers Biblical town of Jesus' disciples:
https://tinyurl.com/bdywxe77
Faithpot site
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 05:49 AM (ix8EF)
50
T-H-U-R-S-D-A-Y NIGHT! Is the song of this generation.
F-R-I-D-A-Y NIGHT! Was my generation.Harry
Posted by: Harry A at December 06, 2025 05:50 AM (SXn5K)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 06, 2025 05:51 AM (XQo4F)
52
39 S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night by The Bay City Rollers was released 49 years ago.
Ned's Atomic Dustbin covered it about 20 years later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjQhkdqMUI
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 05:37 AM (AN2gy)
Tons of fun!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 05:51 AM (RuTUS)
53
It does say it restarted, tried a diagnostic test and if there is a media only speaker then it's shot
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 05:57 AM (Ia/+0)
54
Maybe it's just me, but I think Don Rickles did a better version of Tim Walz than the Tim Walz version of Tim Walz that Tim Walz is doing.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 06, 2025 05:59 AM (XQo4F)
55
>>>on-device models and tighter integrations with cloud assistants.
>>As annoying as AI is, dedicated AI devices are even worse.
Cloud assistants mean SaaS and subscription pricing for crap you don't need and likely don't want for myriad reasons.
Kill them all. Let God sort them out.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 06:00 AM (dK+Kv)
56
* Emerging, blinking, from a dusty cave * Saturday? They still have Saturdays? Whaddaya know.
Evening and morning, Tech Folken. I'm up, a bit earlier than I planned (thanks, Stirling, you flying meatloaf!), and am having coffee before feeding the thugs and then myself. Whassup this day?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:00 AM (wzUl9)
57 S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night by The Bay City Rollers was released 49 years ago. . . .
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025
***
I hear it's all right for fighting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:01 AM (wzUl9)
58
Like the sound of a switchblade and a motor bike.
Posted by: Sir Elton at December 06, 2025 06:03 AM (XQo4F)
59
>>>it is already a useful compiler if you're interested in high-performance code with built-in memory management.
What's their secret?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 06:03 AM (dK+Kv)
60
T-H-U-R-S-D-A-Y NIGHT! Is the song of this generation.
F-R-I-D-A-Y NIGHT! Was my generation.
My grandchildren should be singing W-E-D-N-E-S-D-A-Y NIGHT! That should be a difficult lyric. Hopefully AI will help them out?
Posted by: Harry A at December 06, 2025 06:04 AM (SXn5K)
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:05 AM (Ia/+0)
65
I've bought a couple of items from https://protectli.com/
The ones that I bought are used as servers within my home network. gateway/ntp/dhcp/dns for one, the other a cacti server (https://docs.cacti.net). I've got Slackware 15.0 on the first one and Obarun on the second. (Both are Linux distributions.)
I won't claim the devices are cheap or cost-effective (that wasn't in my decision matrix), but they have been solid performers and simple to load different Linux distributions upon themselves. There's a 1U rack mount shelf you can get that works just fine (for those who have rack mounts).
Posted by: Richard Cranium at December 06, 2025 06:07 AM (1JufS)
66
From dust we came and to dust we shall return.
That's why I don't dust.
It might be someone I know.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 06, 2025 06:08 AM (XQo4F)
67
Joe Biden:
"We're the United States of Ameragottit!”
https://tinyurl.com/m7s7zpxk
(Greg Price on X)
He’s still doing the mumbling to screaming thing, too.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025 06:08 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 06, 2025 06:09 AM (bQ4nt)
69
Fen, at the bottom of the screen - might have to hold it portrait, it’s easier - you’ll see how many tabs are open e.g. “12 tabs open” tap that and it should show the public / private thing.
Sometimes I’ll brush the phone with my thumb or grab it wrong and it goes into ultra magnification mode. That’s fun to fix without rebooting.
The only time i was worried a little bit I was messing around in Settings. Oops.
I saw all the different languages it supports. Cool! I wonder what everything looks like in a different language?
Hm, let’s find something really exotic looking. Cambodian should do, I think. It worked! And …. You’ll never guess what happened! I couldn’t find the language part in Settings to get out of Cambodian, took me about 15 minutes.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 06:09 AM (4eslj)
70
Happy Saint Nicholas Day -a day celebrated in the Orthodox and RC church:
https://tinyurl.com/5n62zvbs
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 06:10 AM (IEV/x)
Made famous by James Bond in a few of the movies, especially For Your Eyes Only.
I thought they were the coolest looking cars on the planet when I was like 10.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025 06:12 AM (6ydKt)
73
There is a article at American Thinker
Minnesota is raping itself
A Somalian is on a raping spree and hasn't served a very light sentence. They are doing what England did
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:12 AM (Ia/+0)
74
67 Joe Biden:
"We're the United States of Ameragottit!”
https://tinyurl.com/m7s7zpxk
(Greg Price on X)
He’s still doing the mumbling to screaming thing, too.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025 06:08 AM (6ydKt)
Another transliteration:
Stephen L. Miller retweeted
Steve Guest
@SteveGuest
12h
Joe Biden at the LGBTQ+ Victory Institute cannot pronounce the "United States of America."
"We're the United Statz Aadfsoihiopuefhqwnjklavds"
That's the phonetic pronunciation. h/t @RyanSaavedra
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:12 AM (RuTUS)
75
My 'Net was out for a time yesterday afternoon. It happened mostly while I was napping. I got up to see texts from Cox about "the outage" and then "It has been resolved." No, it hadn't -- or so I thought. For a while I occupied myself with other things, then did what I should have done right away: turned off the system and my computer, waited a little bit, then switched back on. Success!
Rebooting often works.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:13 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Don innSoCo at December 06, 2025 04:58 AM (vd6bO)
Green, sustainable, carbon-neutral.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 06:13 AM (dK+Kv)
77He’s still doing the mumbling to screaming thing, too.
He's taking extended-release stupid/evil pills. His normal state is zombie mutter but, occasionally, a micro-dose of evil will be administered and he starts screaming... unless a little girl in nearby.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 06, 2025 06:15 AM (ExV1e)
78
hahahahaha from the comments under the @SteveGuest post:
Kevin Joseph
@ShiloZafun
10h
I'm hearing "United States of Merrick Garland" some times and other times I hear "United States of Olive Garden."
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:16 AM (RuTUS)
79 Good morning, Hordians. Up, dressed, morning prayers said, dogs let out, coffee made, now sitting in the Command Center at Schloss Hadrian. Getting Her Majesty and The Big Dummy on the road to Florida this morning, going out for dog food for the beasts, plus some other shopping, then going to Confession.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 06:17 AM (tgvbd)
>>> I thought they were the coolest looking cars on the planet when I was like 10.
When I was slightly younger, I had a Lotus Europa in my Matchbox collection and thought it was one of the coolest looking cars I had.
It was only in adult years did I realize how small they are. Apparently they are popular for DIY mods and you can get quite a lot of speed out of a decent four banger.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:18 AM (AN2gy)
81
Keeping you centered in the frame and muting background noise sounds like mathy computing tech algorithms or something but not really Artificial Intelligence, tho.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 04:06 AM (RuTUS)
That's just it. They use models and datasets to train the systems to recognize the problems and perform some sort of correction, which is pretty standard machine learning stuff. Hardly "AI" or even "I." But marketers don't care.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 06:18 AM (dK+Kv)
82
Cool, 51 F., and raining lightly here. We expect rain all day. And here I need to venture out to Walmart for some stuff. Maybe the rain will keep some of the Walmartians home until tomorrow.
And this afternoon Linda wants to go to this Christmas fair, indoors at least, at the German-American Center in the city proper. Gah. Not the center itself, or the fair, or the people -- but going into the city, wondering when the shot or carjacking will come, or when I'll burst a tire in a pothole.
I'll grit my teeth, smile and smile and be a villain, and get through it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:19 AM (wzUl9)
83
"...and other times I hear "United States of Olive Garden."
I'm just here for the bread sticks.
Posted by: Not A Doctor Jill at December 06, 2025 06:20 AM (XQo4F)
84
interesting, R C, particularly the open-source BIOS.
I have noticed a variety of chicom-modded AMI-style BIOSes in boxes lately; got to regard them with a degree of suspicion.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 06:20 AM (Cjt/F)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025 06:21 AM (0cOaq)
86
I've fed the monsters. Little Dagny did not think her wet food/dry food mix was to her taste and walked off from it. I rescued it from her brother. Now she's looking at me as though I never fed her.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:21 AM (wzUl9)
87 I'll grit my teeth, smile and smile and be a villain, and get through it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:19 AM (wzUl9)
I vaguely remember some satirical headline like "Boyfriends Fear Free Concert in the Park Season". This must be the winter version.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 06:22 AM (tgvbd)
88
"We're the United Statz Aadfsoihiopuefhqwnjklavds"
------------
Looks like a Hawaiian-Scandinavian hybrid language.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025 06:22 AM (0cOaq)
89
85 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025 06:21 AM (0cOaq)
I have broken out a newish Lipton Forest Fruits Frutti Rossi Black Tea with Strawberries - From France
and the whole room reeks of strawberries.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:23 AM (RuTUS)
90
"...but going into the city, wondering when the shot or carjacking will come, or when I'll burst a tire in a pothole."
###
Download our apps.
Posted by: The good people of Uber and Lyft at December 06, 2025 06:23 AM (XQo4F)
91
I've bought a couple of items from https://protectli.com/
The ones that I bought are used as servers within my home network. gateway/ntp/dhcp/dns for one, the other a cacti server (https://docs.cacti.net). I've got Slackware 15.0 on the first one and Obarun on the second. (Both are Linux distributions.)
I won't claim the devices are cheap or cost-effective (that wasn't in my decision matrix), but they have been solid performers and simple to load different Linux distributions upon themselves. There's a 1U rack mount shelf you can get that works just fine (for those who have rack mounts).
Posted by: Richard Cranium at December 06, 2025 06:07 AM (1JufS)
I have one set up as an opensense router/gateway that has been rock solid. Very impressive.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 06:24 AM (dK+Kv)
92
As early as I was to the thread yesterday, I'm even more late to it today.
I am the time-pendulum.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 06, 2025 06:24 AM (O7YUW)
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:28 AM (RuTUS)
101 I'll grit my teeth, smile and smile and be a villain, and get through it.
*
You don't remind me much of Claudius from "Hamlet". I hope that the day is better anticipated .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025
***
Fen, the event itself is fine. For a time the German Center used to be in the suburbs, off a major Federal highway, and visiting there was great. For that matter, for a big part of my life the city itself was exciting and magnetic. Not no mo'.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:29 AM (wzUl9)
102
Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange
...
Feb 23, 2014 — The Time Lords are the rulers of Gallifreyan society as well as their military leaders, selected from early childhood (age , shown the untempered schism.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:29 AM (RuTUS)
103
When I was slightly younger, I had a Lotus Europa in my Matchbox collection and thought it was one of the coolest looking cars I had.
It was only in adult years did I realize how small they are. Apparently they are popular for DIY mods and you can get quite a lot of speed out of a decent four banger.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:18 AM (AN2gy)
I had a few Matchbox, but several dozen Hot Wheels (they ran smoother and faster ).
My favorite was a silver Ferrari Tesstarosa.
I gave away most of my collection when I was a teenager but I still have eight or ten that I kept and the Ferrari is one of them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025 06:29 AM (6ydKt)
104
T-H-U-R-S-D-A-Y NIGHT! Is the song of this generation.
F-R-I-D-A-Y NIGHT! Was my generation.
My grandchildren should be singing W-E-D-N-E-S-D-A-Y NIGHT! That should be a difficult lyric. Hopefully AI will help them out?
Posted by: Harry A at December 06, 2025 06:04 AM (SXn5K)
----
In addition to the "no math rule" maybe we should have a "no spelling rule."
happy to observe that the uber/lyft business model does not extend into cows&corn country, lol, nor does doordash ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025
***
I suppose if I *needed* a car ride, say, back from my mechanic or something, and had no other choice, I could do Lyft or Uber. But the recent stories about "immigrants" driving for them make me less than trusting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:35 AM (wzUl9)
I piloted an AI system a few years ago at work, it detected whenever someone fell, the system called me to tell me. This system is being widely commercialized now.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:35 AM (m6HS6)
110
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 06:09 AM (4eslj)
Thanks for the helpful advice. I gave it to FenSpouse and he fixed it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 06:36 AM (uA11f)
"A Tennessee man and his three-month-old granddaughter were found dead after being mauled by seven pit bulls inside their family home.
DA's office said authorities are still investigating whether the victims died before or after being attacked by the dogs"
Having been in the middle of a dog fight, I can attest it is a melee that you do not want to be in without a weapon.
Owning seven pit bulls should be illegal or at least as tightly regulated as tigers. They are dangerously unpredictable dogs.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:36 AM (vFG9F)
112
>>> My favorite was a silver Ferrari Tesstarosa.
I gave away most of my collection when I was a teenager but I still have eight or ten that I kept and the Ferrari is one of them.
I have none of my mine, but I do pause to look when I pass them in store aisles.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:36 AM (AN2gy)
113
But the recent stories about "immigrants" driving for them make me less than trusting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:35 AM (wzUl9)
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My friend recently took a Lyft and the driver was quite based and a Trump fan! In the Portland metro area!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025 06:36 AM (0cOaq)
I piloted an AI system a few years ago at work, it detected whenever someone fell, the system called me to tell me. This system is being widely commercialized now.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:35 AM (m6HS6)
Wow. To be used inside a business (manufacturing plant or such)? Or by private patients/subscribers?
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:38 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025 06:40 AM (0cOaq)
118
In another lifetime, I worked on an Elite a few times. It was a cool looking car but not real fast and the interior finish was terrible. It looked like a kit car inside. Most of what I worked on were electrical problems. Care to guess why?
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:40 AM (vFG9F)
*** gimlet eye ***
Posted by: Autocucumber at December 06, 2025 06:38 AM (AN2gy)
Is that g-i-m-l-e-t?
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:40 AM (RuTUS)
120But the recent stories about "immigrants" driving for them make me less than trusting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025
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My friend recently took a Lyft and the driver was quite based and a Trump fan! In the Portland metro area!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 06, 2025
***
Then I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:41 AM (wzUl9)
121
I have none of my mine, but I do pause to look when I pass them in store aisles.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:36 AM (AN2gy)
Haven’t been down a toy aisle in forever.
Do the toy cats even look the same?
Same size, materials, and all?
I recall Hot Wheels was getting into the fantasy style for while; crazy designs with bright colors, etc.
That turned me off of them.
I like my fake toy miniature cars looking exactly like the real thing.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025 06:41 AM (6ydKt)
122
"I piloted an AI system a few years ago at work, it detected whenever someone fell, the system called me to tell me. This system is being widely commercialized now."
That must be something like the drop detector pendants for old folks I see advertised nowadays.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:42 AM (vFG9F)
123
I would like to have a Lotus Elan for the classicness but a modern Miata will be faster and much more reliable than the Elan's ever were.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:44 AM (vFG9F)
124
Wake up fellow believers in Christ😉 Hank Wiliams Sr-"I heard my Savior calling me"
https://tinyurl.com/2p5cdndw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 06:45 AM (IeCgc)
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:40 AM (vFG9F)
Made in Britain?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 06:46 AM (dK+Kv)
126
>>> I recall Hot Wheels was getting into the fantasy style for while; crazy designs with bright colors, etc.
That turned me off of them.
I like my fake toy miniature cars looking exactly like the real thing.
They had fantastic designs in the early 70s, though I think some were based on famous custom cars. Pretty sure my Red Baron mobile was not ;--)
They did do track and track friendly wheels a few years before Matchbox did.
I shall do some inspecting later this AM as I wander the supermarket.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:47 AM (AN2gy)
127
122 "I piloted an AI system a few years ago at work, it detected whenever someone fell, the system called me to tell me. This system is being widely commercialized now."
That must be something like the drop detector pendants for old folks I see advertised nowadays.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:42 AM (vFG9F)
super cool
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:47 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 06:48 AM (Cjt/F)
129
Yeah, the Brits are pretty good at car design, but I’ve heard nothing but nightmare stories about electrical systems and all around terrible engineering in most of their brands from Jaguar to Range Rover.
I think Rolls Royce’s & Bentleys had a good reputation but who can drive a Rolls these days?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025 06:48 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:49 AM (AN2gy)
131
Wow. To be used inside a business (manufacturing plant or such)? Or by private patients/subscribers?
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:38 AM (RuTUS)
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It is mostly being installed in memory care neighborhoods.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:49 AM (m6HS6)
132 Owning seven pit bulls should be illegal or at least as tightly regulated as tigers. They are dangerously unpredictable dogs.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:36 AM (vFG9F)
A very great deal of the problem is that assholes breed them for aggressiveness. The can be - I stress the word "can" - perfectly fine dogs to live with but only if their temperament is placid. And in most cases, that's not there.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 06:49 AM (tgvbd)
133My Friend Flicka, the 1943 movie with Roddy McDowall, is on Movies! I have a faint memory of the 1955-1960 TV series -- probably more from the tie-in materials like comic books and coloring books than from the show itself. It, and all the other Western series on TV then, cemented my interest in all things Western, including the modern West.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:49 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:49 AM (wzUl9)
135
sock_rat_eez got it. Your prize is headlight switch made of paper mache and graham crackers.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:50 AM (vFG9F)
136
131 Wow. To be used inside a business (manufacturing plant or such)? Or by private patients/subscribers?
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:38 AM (RuTUS)
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It is mostly being installed in memory care neighborhoods.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:49 AM (m6HS6)
Really great!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:51 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:52 AM (vFG9F)
139Owning seven pit bulls should be illegal or at least as tightly regulated as tigers. They are dangerously unpredictable dogs.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025
*
A very great deal of the problem is that assholes breed them for aggressiveness. The can be - I stress the word "can" - perfectly fine dogs to live with but only if their temperament is placid. And in most cases, that's not there.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025
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I'll stick with my mini-tigers, thanks.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:52 AM (wzUl9)
140
AI is also coming into wide use analyzing health data in real time.
Mrs. So-and-So is sleeping longer than usual, let's check if she still needs her Trazadone.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:52 AM (m6HS6)
I have learned something. I can let my brain rest for the day.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:54 AM (AN2gy)
142
A very great deal of the problem is that assholes breed them for aggressiveness. The can be - I stress the word "can" - perfectly fine dogs to live with but only if their temperament is placid. And in most cases, that's not there.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 06:49 AM (tgvbd)
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There is a beautiful pittie in our neighborhood that whenever we walk by, she flops over and demands belly scritches.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 06:55 AM (m6HS6)
143
Bentleys? James Bond's second Bentley in the novels was a 1953 Mark VI, bought at the end of 1955's Moonraker. Anthony Horowitz's Trigger Mortis, set in '57, still has him driving it.
I did an image search. What a beautiful car, esp. in "drophead coupe" (= convertible?) form.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:56 AM (wzUl9)
144
@128/sock_rat_eez: "Lucas, the Prince of Darkness?"
Lucas Electric is the Prince of Sudden and Unexpected Darkness.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 06, 2025 06:56 AM (O7YUW)
woulda been a drop in replacement for my old TR-4A !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 06:56 AM (Cjt/F)
146
Fluffy, its even got its own wiki page. I didn't know this about it:
"While the original model featured a 1914 Mercedes-Benz inline 6-cylinder engine, the full-size car received an OHC Pontiac 6-cylinder"
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 06:56 AM (vFG9F)
147
"Yeah, the Brits are pretty good at car design..."
No.
No, they're not.
Posted by: MG and Triumph owners everywhere at December 06, 2025 06:57 AM (XQo4F)
148 "All Parts Falling Off This Car Are of the Finest British Workmanship"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 06:58 AM (tgvbd)
149
Slightly OT but:
A commercial that had sticking power:
(Wikipedia) "I've fallen, and I can't get up!" is a line spoken in television commercials for LifeCall, a now defunct medical alarm and protection company.
The line was spoken by actress Dorothy McHugh in a 1987 LifeCall television commercial. LifeCall subscribers, mostly seniors and disabled people, would receive a pendant which, when activated, would allow the user to speak into an audio receiving device and talk directly with a dispatch service, without the need to reach a telephone.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 06:58 AM (RuTUS)
150
I really wish that Google would get around to updating all of my Google home devices with Gemini since the home automation functions and capabilities of the AI are now better than Google assistant's.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 06, 2025 06:58 AM (WYStd)
151
>>> The Splittin' Image was one of the first concept cars that sprung from the fertile imagination of Mattel designer Ira Gilford.
Found on the interwebz.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 06:59 AM (AN2gy)
152There is a beautiful pittie in our neighborhood that whenever we walk by, she flops over and demands belly scritches.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025
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I just don't find pitbulls and their mixes to be attractive dogs. German shepherds, collies, mini-collies, Corgis, even Schipperkes are good-looking or cute. Pitbulls, not so much.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 06:59 AM (wzUl9)
153
Spider solitaire is evil
Have 3 empty spaces and only 8 cards hidden, 6 are doubles
533 moves and trapped
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 06:59 AM (Ia/+0)
154
I really wish that Google would get around to updating all of my Google home devices with Gemini since the home automation functions and capabilities of the AI are now better than Google assistant's.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 06, 2025 06:58 AM (WYStd
*raging eye twitch*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 07:00 AM (dK+Kv)
155
My FiL had an infamous Jaguar that became legendary for spending more time in the shop than on the road.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 07:01 AM (m6HS6)
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:03 AM (Ia/+0)
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I've got a 65 Spitfire. It's not a very good car by modern standards but it's red and looks so cool with the top off. I can drive it to the gas station or grocery store and will get a half a dozen comments from people who want to look at it or talk about it.
I had one guy come up while I was pumping gas who said "I didn't know that Triumph made cars".
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:04 AM (vFG9F)
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We used to hold rifle matches on a private range in central Ohio, where the neighbor had his own menagerie of big cats. The range owner was a policeman's widow who delighted in having her late husband's friends and competitors over for the weekend. I'll never forget her because she was kind of old and extremely good looking. If you camped out in the hay field, the lions and tigers inside their heavy fences would roar all night and really give you something to think about. Seeing all those EZ-up line tents from across the acreage gave a good impression of what medieval tournaments must have been like.
After several years, the family's insurance agent intervened and insisted that sponsored rifle matches on a farm were just too dangerous to cover. Nobody said a damn word about the pumas.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 06, 2025 07:05 AM (zdLoL)
159My FiL had an infamous Jaguar that became legendary for spending more time in the shop than on the road.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025
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And my mechanic warned me that, while Jags are great cars, the parts are no cheaper than Mercedes parts. He works on both and loves 'em, but acknowledges their drawbacks.
His father had a modern aluminum-bodied Jag saloon for a time, before he stopped driving.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 07:05 AM (wzUl9)
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>>> The project was designed by model designer Tom Daniel in 1967 for the Monogram Company
Looks like the Red Baron got its start as a plastic scale model kit.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:05 AM (AN2gy)
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My brother still has his foster pit bull.
She’s a sweet dog most of the time, and she does listen if you’re using a firm voice with her.
But they are built so strong, and are so impulsive and fast, it’s scary because you never know when the aggression will turn up.
She already bit one person out of nowhere.
Thankfully it was minor, but bro and his wife don’t take her out of the house/yard anymore because of it.
And this dog has never been trained to be aggressive. She’s been loved, given attention, and treated like any other dog they’ve had.
There’s just something in pit bulls that can cause them to snap unexpectedly as far as I can tell.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025 07:05 AM (6ydKt)
162I always liked bigger breeds of dogs
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025
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They seem to be more placid. The little ones are more yappy and excitable.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 07:07 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 07:07 AM (Cjt/F)
164There’s just something in pit bulls that can cause them to snap unexpectedly as far as I can tell.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 06, 2025
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Apparently they have been bred for it. You might as well expect a collie not to herd as a pitbull not to be aggressive, methinks.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 07:08 AM (wzUl9)
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*raging eye twitch*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 07:00 AM (dK+Kv)
I know the horde doesn't like it, but the utility I get from these little devices is something that I now cannot live without. Had a smart home ever since I bought this place ten years ago, and it's awesome
I also work with "big data" and know that most of the fears people have over privacy are nonsense. Some fears are justified but others not.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 06, 2025 07:08 AM (WYStd)
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>>> I've got a 65 Spitfire. It's not a very good car by modern standards but it's red and looks so cool with the top off.
Wikkid cool. I wouldn't say anything but would be noticeably gawking.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:09 AM (AN2gy)
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165 I also work with "big data" and know that most of the fears people have over privacy are nonsense. Some fears are justified but others not.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 06, 2025 07:08 AM (WYStd)
I would welcome a list of those.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:09 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Sir Spiesalot at December 06, 2025 07:11 AM (XQo4F)
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Cat *breed* personalities seem to be much less variable than those of dogs. Siamese are noisier, Ragdolls are placid, Siberians are weird (I know, having lived with three and known a fourth very well). But all of them generally want to hunt small prey, play with toys, sleep curled up, enjoy human company, etc.
Individual cats are another box of litter entirely.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 07:11 AM (wzUl9)
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Through an extremely unlikely series of events, I bought a packet of Uncle Ben’s ready Brown Rice, which is intended for the Microwave. I think it’s semi-cooked already, Not a fan of instant rice, but at 6k feet brown rice isn’t practical without a canner. I’m thinking it might be OK in a crockpot? Chicken & Rice hangs in the balance
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:11 AM (4eslj)
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Time I went to pretend to be writing. In about an hour, when it's fully light, I'll head off to the grocery, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 06, 2025 07:12 AM (wzUl9)
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169 I like big data and I cannot lie...
Posted by: Sir Spiesalot at December 06, 2025 07:11 AM (XQo4F)
also dogs
156 I always liked bigger breeds of dogs
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:03 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:12 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 06, 2025 07:13 AM (O7YUW)
175
“ The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted, “Hosanna to the Son of David!” “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Hosanna in the highest heaven!”
Matthew 21:9
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 07:13 AM (E24OL)
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>>> I also work with "big data" and know that most of the fears people have over privacy are nonsense. Some fears are justified but others not.
I realize that I am semi-protected by security through obscurity, but no.
I don't want my refrigerator phoning home about my consumption habits.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:13 AM (AN2gy)
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When I was a kid, my dad's uncle lived with my great grandmother and he had a kennel rasing pomeranian and chihuahua, they seemed snippy to me
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 07:14 AM (Ia/+0)
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Pit bulls were bred for aggressiveness, I don’t think that can be removed or conditioned out of them. Once in a while they just snap and go into lizard brain mode entirely. Not a fan.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:14 AM (4eslj)
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Uncle Ben's Ready Rice?
Are you kidding? Squeeze the package a few times. Tear the top back one inch at either top corner. Microwave on high for 90 seconds.
Boom. You've got perfectly cooked rice!
Thanks patriarchy!
Posted by: Guys everywhere at December 06, 2025 07:16 AM (XQo4F)
180 Those little ones have got to be the future of home computers, as I like bigger screens than a laptop, or watching a movie on a tiny phone screen..
Over a decade ago decided that a desktop was too big, noisy, hot and power hungry and moved to notebook computers which could be stored in a vault when not in use or when leaving.
Due to the nature of my work, I'm running 3 4k monitors (43", 2 x 36"). I want the mini PC to be the future since with USB4 and modern docking stations throwing a cube half the size of a Kleenex box in the vault is really easy.
The mini-pc gives me all the stuff a notebook does except the screen, keyboard, and the ruggedness for travel - which I need only a few times a year.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 07:17 AM (a4flb)
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>>> Cat *breed* personalities seem to be much less variable than those of dogs. Siamese are noisier, Ragdolls are placid, Siberians are weird
We had a ragdoll, can confirm. I think he was home brew, not a registered cat.
Mrs fluffy has noticed that tabbies tend to be extroverted and friendly. My puppycat is a tabby.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:17 AM (AN2gy)
182
I noticed it can get too hot and humid for dogs to do their job. On one of the worst hot and humid days ever experienced I was making a delivery to a house. Attack dog was under the deck in the shade. I heard a muffled, not very enthusiastic “woof” and that was that. Dog said “I ain’t moving”. In better weather I would have been a snack.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:17 AM (4eslj)
;-)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 06, 2025 07:13 AM (O7YUW)
"New ... York ... CITY?"
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:17 AM (RuTUS)
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I know the horde doesn't like it, but the utility I get from these little devices is something that I now cannot live without. Had a smart home ever since I bought this place ten years ago, and it's awesome
I also work with "big data" and know that most of the fears people have over privacy are nonsense. Some fears are justified but others not.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 06, 2025 07:08 AM (WYStd)
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Have you seen Demon Seed?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 06, 2025 07:18 AM (m6HS6)
Posted by: Pace salsa at December 06, 2025 07:19 AM (XQo4F)
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175 “ The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted, “Hosanna to the Son of David!” “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Hosanna in the highest heaven!”
Matthew 21:9
Posted by: Marcus T at December 06, 2025 07:13 AM (E24OL)
Thank you, Marcus T!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:19 AM (RuTUS)
187Pit bulls were bred for aggressiveness, I don’t think that can be removed or conditioned out of them. Once in a while they just snap and go into lizard brain mode entirely. Not a fan.
The mental retards that live around here love their pit bulls and let them go charge people simply walking down the street (admittedly, I'm the only one walking down the street - people here are so lazy they drive to the mailbox)
That is why bullwhips are lovely stand-off weapons.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 07:20 AM (a4flb)
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Yeah tabbies tend to be gregarious and good natured. The nicest I knew was named “Mike” which for some reason I thought was comical.
My observation is you can tell a LOT about people, by the nature or disposition and health of their pets.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:21 AM (4eslj)
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176 >>> I also work with "big data" and know that most of the fears people have over privacy are nonsense. Some fears are justified but others not.
I realize that I am semi-protected by security through obscurity, but no.
I don't want my refrigerator phoning home about my consumption habits.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:13 AM (AN2gy)
Now do toilets.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:22 AM (RuTUS)
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"That is why bullwhips are lovely stand-off weapons.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure"
If they get inside the range of the whip you better have a pistol or large knife.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:22 AM (vFG9F)
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171 Through an extremely unlikely series of events, I bought a packet of Uncle Ben’s ready Brown Rice, which is intended for the Microwave. I think it’s semi-cooked already, Not a fan of instant rice, but at 6k feet brown rice isn’t practical without a canner. I’m thinking it might be OK in a crockpot? Chicken & Rice hangs in the balance
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:11 AM (4eslj)
Maybe it says, on the package?
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:23 AM (RuTUS)
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But the 370 is just 20% faster than the 255 while the relevant Minisforum model is 60% more expensive.
Why would you give a product a name that most everyone will mis-read as misinform?
Posted by: From about That Time at December 06, 2025 07:24 AM (sl73Y)
I saw the discussion yesterday, or earlier this week.
It brought to mind a parody I saw years back about the Google toilet. IIRC correctly, it blackmailed a guy into buying stuff because of his shameful browsing habits.
"Google: We're way up your ass"
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:25 AM (AN2gy)
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Nope, it only has directions for microwave. I didn’t look at it real close however, I’m still in the pissed off mode. Hazards of buying online. I thought it was a big ass box of instant. No, just a twee pack, it’s like a brick. I think it might have moisture, leading me to believe it would be OK after an hour in the crack pot.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:25 AM (4eslj)
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I have a strict no pit bull policy. Neighbor had one that killed one of my colts. A stray tried attacking one of the older geldings. S S S
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:25 AM (sDNVV)
196I realize that I am semi-protected by security through obscurity, but no.
I don't want my refrigerator phoning home about my consumption habits.
• Don't be the signal, be the noise.
• If you don't even make noise, you become the signal. (the dog that didn't bark)
• Don't do such evil shit that Leviathan decides to make you a cat toy.
Yeah, your refrigerator might not be reporting on you, but thousands of other things do. (e.g. neighborhood Ring door cameras, ALPR, traffic signal crossings, your phone, your power meter...)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 07:25 AM (a4flb)
197
The more technology advances the farther away I want from it.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:27 AM (sDNVV)
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Pit bitches can be very loving. Still protective though.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 07:28 AM (W7XSX)
199Why would you give a product a name that most everyone will mis-read as misinform?
Its a pure Chinese product. Their marketing teams open a can of alphabet soup and discover their product name and company name in the first scoop.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 07:29 AM (a4flb)
I also work with "big data" and know that most of the fears people have over privacy are nonsense. Some fears are justified but others not.
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 06, 2025 07:08 AM (WYStd)
Do what pleases you, group preferences be dawned. I was just going for the funny.
"[ M] ost of the fears people have over privacy are nonsense . . ."
I read that as, "not proven right or justified just yet."
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 07:30 AM (dK+Kv)
203
So many foreign sports car comments, and nobody has said:
FIAT
"Fix it again, Tony."
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:30 AM (RuTUS)
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>>> Yeah, your refrigerator might not be reporting on you, but thousands of other things do. (e.g. neighborhood Ring door cameras, ALPR, traffic signal crossings, your phone, your power meter...)
I know that I am constantly observed , albeit passively. I feel like I have yielded too much ground already.
Not sure what you mean by 'be the noise'. Be statistically anomolous?
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:33 AM (AN2gy)
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The web based email, where I used to work would sometimes switch an account display to Danish. No idea why, but I got very good at logging into their account and changing it back to English.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 07:33 AM (+mUZM)
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195 I have a strict no pit bull policy. Neighbor had one that killed one of my colts.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:25 AM (sDNVV)
yikes
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:33 AM (RuTUS)
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I've had a few Fiats. They are not so bad if you can work on them. I had a 128 sedan that the fuel pump failed on so I strapped a motorcycle gas tank to the hood and ran a hose to the carb. Drove it for a few weeks like that.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:34 AM (vFG9F)
208If they get inside the range of the whip you better have a pistol or large knife.
If I was going for a nice evening walk in a neighborhood I don't know, then I suppose, but it would look weird a kitted up for CQB.
Doing summer work as a teen, when canvasing a neighborhood occasionally people would greet me with a GSD or Doberman (the cool attack dogs at that time).
Having a BB Nidan in martial arts, providing the dog with a concussion or cracked ribs was effective (I had a very high risk threshold at the time).
Worst case, years later attacked by a GSD out in the alley at night - provided a sacrificial arm while the other jammed an automatic SOG knife in its chest and vigorously swirled the knife around in the cavity until the threat ended.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 07:38 AM (a4flb)
Me too now. If I see one in the yard I am not going to wait around to see what it does.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:39 AM (vFG9F)
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>>>Don't do such evil shit that Leviathan decides to make you a cat toy.
Problem isn't me, it is Leviathan.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 07:40 AM (dK+Kv)
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203 So many foreign sports car comments, and nobody has said:
FIAT
"Fix it again, Tony."
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:30 AM (RuTUS)
Quoting my dad, here.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:43 AM (RuTUS)
212
I had a Fiat where on windshield wiper quit working. You'd have to remove the dash to work on it, so my husband used baling wire to wire it to the working one. Drove it that way, till I decided I really needed a different car.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 06, 2025 07:43 AM (+mUZM)
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The problem is pit bulls are practically immune to pain or anything. Most dogs, even mean ones, are not of sufficient size or whatever to really take on a pissed off human effectively who has a cane or weapon. Not fun but manageable. A pack of dogs is different, but what I’m getting at a pit is not gonna be persuaded by a club or anything. You’re fooked. That’s why all those stories only end one way, you’ll notice.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:45 AM (bocsn)
214 One thing I've learned (yes, even I can learn) is that a bad temperament is always intolerable. Always.
We had a Borzoi boy we bred who had aggressiveness problems. We tried everything, including having him neutered. But he still snapped at the others. We had to have him put down. We cried, but we did it because we had to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 07:45 AM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 07:45 AM (tgvbd)
It was the right and brave thing to do.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 07:47 AM (dK+Kv)
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214
One thing I've learned (yes, even I can learn) is that a bad temperament is always intolerable. Always.
We had a Borzoi boy we bred who had aggressiveness problems. We tried everything, including having him neutered. But he still snapped at the others. We had to have him put down. We cried, but we did it because we had to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 07:45 AM (tgvbd)
You're a good source for these things. We're lucky to have you here.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:48 AM (RuTUS)
220Not sure what you mean by 'be the noise'. Be statistically anomolous?
Short Answer: Yes.
There are two very different strategies for that, one is to be indistinguishable from your neighbors. In the case of power meters (I'm just picking one) with the gains made in AI, they can detect when and what types of high draw equipment you are using (electric oven, hot water heater, A/C, etc.) Not sure most utilities are using low granularity or just collecting 15 minute KW/h segments, but you can pretty well establish pattern of life from just that data.
Second strategy is to be random each day so that no pattern of life can be determined. That is hard to do on a consistent basis but does keep you out of the pattern analysis made by a lot of algorithms.
As for the frig: Watch what people buy at the store. Only your health/life insurance company cares what you put in and out of it.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 07:48 AM (a4flb)
221
Trico makes good blades. Rainx does not, at least in my experience.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:48 AM (vFG9F)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 06, 2025 07:49 AM (u82oZ)
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I'm officially getting older. Had to change my subdued watt bulb for a 75 watt one in my desk lamp and the lamp has been moved closer to my work area. I have a new monitor arriving, larger and sharper imaging. Having my eyes checked on Tuesday and just know I'll need new glasses. Getting old ain't for the faint of heart, however it beats the alternative.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 06, 2025 07:49 AM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:49 AM (sDNVV)
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Ben Had. Good morning. I believe it was you that suggested using Broken Arrow Ranch for goodies. If so, thanks. They are a part of my Christmas gift giving this year. It will be interesting to see how quail and wild game sausage are received by family members.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 06, 2025 07:52 AM (2NHgQ)
You are doing the adulting for us all, in taking care of needed tasks.
Hope the rest of life for you, Her Majesty, and all your furry companions is a saga of golden times.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 06, 2025 07:52 AM (u82oZ)
227
NaCly, Good morning . Did you ever get through to the agency you were trying to contact?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:52 AM (sDNVV)
228
A friend of mine is selling her mini-farm in SC. It's not far from Hilton Head. 4 acres and 2300 sq ft house, $400K. If I wanted to be down there I would consider it.
Posted by: fd at December 06, 2025 07:52 AM (vFG9F)
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Mrs fluffy has noticed that tabbies tend to be extroverted and friendly. My puppycat is a tabby.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2025 07:17 AM (AN2gy)
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Both of my tabbies (Jasmine and Hexie) are very friendly, but only one (Hexie) is extroverted.
Jasmine takes her sweet time getting to know a stranger, but eventually she'll be friendly.
I take the goldi-locks approach. Buy reasonably good ones and replace every year. The “Lifetime Heavy Duty” type do last a long time but they don’t work nearly as well, and tend to scratch the glass. A good wiper in the rain (that’s what they are for) is not an inherently durable thing is the problem.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:54 AM (Npcdm)
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neverenoughcaffeine, I have never had anything but rave reviews from people that have received their products. The quail are unparalleled.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 06, 2025 07:55 AM (sDNVV)
233, but what I’m getting at a pit is not gonna be persuaded by a club or anything. You’re fooked.
I like to bicycle ride in the back roads. There is one house in particular where the asshole has FIVE unrestrained pits running on the property. Yes they will always come out and "greet" me as I go by. Yes that is also the fastest segment of my ride. Yes I fantasize about a midnight visit with a shotgun or a suppressed subsonic .300 Blackout.
The pits in my AO though respect the bullwhip. I suspect that they are bored senseless by the drug addict ne're do wells in their hovels, and a passerby is simply something to chase.
These mental retards around here are low-energy people yet they insist on having high-energy dogs and refuse to walk, play, or otherwise engage their dogs so there is ALOT of pent up energy and sense of discovery in those poor animals.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 06, 2025 07:55 AM (a4flb)
I take the goldi-locks approach. Buy reasonably good ones and replace every year. The “Lifetime Heavy Duty” type do last a long time but they don’t work nearly as well, and tend to scratch the glass. A good wiper in the rain (that’s what they are for) is not an inherently durable thing is the problem.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:54 AM (Npcdm)
New blades are almost always better than old, sun-baked, road grime encrusted ones, regardless of quality. I go higher quality like Bosch, and I extend their wipeyness by cleaning them off with an alcohol or 409 soaked paper towel from time to time. After a few cleanings, it is time for replacement, typically about two years or so.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 06, 2025 07:58 AM (dK+Kv)
I chose to explain the Horde to my last remaining liberal friend. We've been friends for 21 years, and she still ignores my responses to her insanity. But not a Karen, so we can have differing views. She wanted to know. The good news is she is 92, nd will forget it tomorrow.
It brought home to me how special and wonderful this entire community is, and especially you for organizing legal fun. I burbled with happiness the entire time I was there.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 06, 2025 07:58 AM (u82oZ)
236Meanwhile TSMC is scrambling to build an advanced packaging facility in the US because it is, well, 100% sold out.
The Irrational Analysis substack (written by an anonymous Silicon Valley chip designer to explain what's really going on to a more general audience) says this is because one thing Intel unquestionably is good at is advanced packaging, and that's the impetus behind both the Apple deal and this move by TSMC.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 06, 2025 07:58 AM (ciXcx)
237
Yep, been there. A pack of dogs is a different scenario altogether. It’s like being in an episode of Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom on the Serengheti waiting for Marlin to give to play by play.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 07:58 AM (Npcdm)
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223 I'm officially getting older. Had to change my subdued watt bulb for a 75 watt one in my desk lamp and the lamp has been moved closer to my work area. I have a new monitor arriving, larger and sharper imaging. Having my eyes checked on Tuesday and just know I'll need new glasses. Getting old ain't for the faint of heart, however it beats the alternative.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 06, 2025 07:49 AM (2NHgQ)
"Youth is wasted on the young."
I didn't understand that one until I became not-young.
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 07:59 AM (RuTUS)
239
How stupid, found out my non media playing was because I put Do not disturb on after a message came through in middle of night a couple days ago
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:00 AM (Ia/+0)
240
A friend of mine is selling her mini-farm in SC. It's not far from Hilton Head. 4 acres and 2300 sq ft house, $400K. If I wanted to be down there I would consider it.
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Wow, that sounds like she has it listed for an excellent price. I doubt it will last long.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 06, 2025 08:00 AM (qBdHI)
241
Right, better rubber is more expensive, but it is always susceptible to oil damage, sunlight, and ozone. It tends to harden, not what we want in wipers. Or tires.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 08:01 AM (Npcdm)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 06, 2025 07:45 AM (tgvbd)
That would be a tough one. Of all our Bullmastiffs, we never had one that showed even an ounce of aggression toward humans.
Other dogs? Yes. We had to retire two from the show dog circuit because of dog aggression.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 06, 2025 08:03 AM (Y1sOo)
246
If you’re out for a walk anywhere, even mowing your lawn, a small can of dog spray, pepper spray is nice to have. Works on 2 legged critters too, so there’s that. Dogs do not respect property lines and can roam far and wide with astonishing speed
Posted by: Common Tater at December 06, 2025 08:04 AM (Npcdm)
247
239 How stupid, found out my non media playing was because I put Do not disturb on after a message came through in middle of night a couple days ago
Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2025 08:00 AM (Ia/+0)
Oh, yay, Skip!
Posted by: m at December 06, 2025 08:05 AM (RuTUS)
248
I know this broad who went to the hospital to have some tests done. On her old Ford Explorer she had a set of new wiper blades. When she came out of the hospital and drove off, she noticed she now had rusty, dirt covered wiper blades. Somebody did the old switcheroo on her.
Posted by: Joe Ghetto at December 06, 2025 08:18 AM (R/m4+)
249
Who’s foolish enough to do a re-hire after jail time?
Someone with a name like that needs extreme vetting followed by circular file for the job application.
Fill the cell with concrete?
Sure
After stuffing their mouths full of bacon and scrapple and taping them shut
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 06, 2025 08:35 AM (Mz0Jz)
250 Trico standard blades have always seemed to me like best performance / value for money; ymmv
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 06, 2025 08:50 AM (Cjt/F)
251
Finally!!! Some news I can use. I've been in the market for a new mini to replace my 5 year old beelink. This minis forum AI X1 is sold out, so, I requested a notice when it becomes available again.
Posted by: Guillermo at December 06, 2025 09:29 AM (558mO)
Posted by: heywood the third at December 06, 2025 10:33 AM (YHzoo)
253
I saw that the minisforum webpage said it can drive FOUR monitors? But I didn't see any HDMI ports, let alone four. Does it take a dock or some other giz-wiz to do that, maybe driven by a single usb4 port?
Posted by: sf at December 06, 2025 08:51 PM (hohh4)
For Unlawful Carnal ONT
Howdy all! Boy, the left is really in a tizzy about ICE, aren't they?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:06 PM (1lXzG)
14
I must be a third haircut type. The kind who shaves his head in the summer, goes to the barber to knock off the sides a couple times in the late fall, then lets it grow in the winter because it's cold and screw you.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2025 10:06 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Van Halen at December 05, 2025 10:10 PM (Q+gd/)
21I must be a third haircut type. The kind who shaves his head in the summer, goes to the barber to knock off the sides a couple times in the late fall, then lets it grow in the winter because it's cold and screw you.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2025 10:06 PM (gKWVE)
Then there's a 4th kind, me. A protester. No haircut until somebody goes to jail for the VOVID-1984 bullshit. Needless to say, my hair's the longest it's ever been. On the plus side, living in Queens behind enemy lines, like Mona Lisa Vito said, 'I blend'.
Posted by: RickZ at December 05, 2025 10:10 PM (gKDq2)
22 Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by being drunk:
pic.twitter.com/d34jXOyfI6
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf)
Those poor poor bleachers. Won't anybody care for the bleachers?
Was this a fast 1/4 mile dirt track? Looked like a lot of where I grew up. May have dated her granny back in the 70s.
*rednecks are awesome
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 10:11 PM (QVmho)
I did not see that one coming. Mind blown.
One difference, sleight of hand if you will, is that the Ottomans did not end slavery. There was a ban on the trade in 1857 but by then, Constantinople/ Istanbul was too weak to enforce any real ban on slavery outside Thrace and west Anatolia. The Kurds were still on it, the Balkans were the Balkans, and Arabia and Africa were like LOL glwt.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2025 10:14 PM (gKWVE)
Its got to be fake but it's true. Middle finger to EU.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025 10:22 PM (y171U)
40Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
I was in Istanbul a few weeks ago. I went to the Blue Mosque, which is adjacent to Hagia Sophia. I've always wanted to see the latter, but it's restricted now for non-Muslims. Some friends got inside and took pictures.
The Blue Mosque is much superior.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 10:22 PM (Riz8t)
41
Apparently they're still pumping the walking corpse named Joe Biden full of chemicals and having him deliver what is allegedly "speeches". He gave one today at a LGBTQRSEUGBPISQ assembly.
What's funny is that Joe Biden when he was in his alleged "prime" was such a mean and vicious person that had THAT version of Joe Biden been present tonight he would have denounced them all as a bunch of perverts.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 10:23 PM (Cjcf6)
Did anybody ever answer Ace's question on the Cafe of "What is this thing?" Seems to me I'd seen a pic of one like it at some time, and read the name, but now I can't recall it. It looks like a relative of the llama and alpaca. Guanaco?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:25 PM (wzUl9)
47
Was it wrong to laugh at the fat lady falling down?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:25 PM (IC093)
48 The girl actress on Buffy the Vampire Slayer is name Charisma (Carpenter).
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:26 PM (1lXzG)
356 Last year's concert from the Tabernacle Choir just got broadcast on PBS a week ago and it was quite good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obZDWSUxwVo
Posted by: pkudude99 at December 05, 2025 12:22 PM (ODCB/)
I got sick and missed the final rehearsals for that concert, so I wasn't able to participate. Instead, I got to attend the concert with my little granddaughter. Great memories.
The 2025 Christmas Concert will be Thursday, Friday, and Saturday of this coming week. Our regular broadcast on that Sunday morning will be a much shorter recap of parts of the concert. You can watch that one live at this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqzv8khQmQ
Official video of this concert will be released around December 1 next year.
Posted by: Half Dozen at December 05, 2025 10:28 PM (EYvpB)
55
NSFW Christmas sweater really needs a second reindeer. Like a friend.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 10:28 PM (dyewR)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 10:29 PM (SZI4T)
57
Deer Prudence.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 10:23 PM (dyewR)
We saw what you did there.
Posted by: The Beatles at December 05, 2025 10:29 PM (QZzSm)
58
53 Trotting those beer steins upstairs would get old fast.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 05, 2025 10:27 PM (L/fGl)
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They used to have a dumbwaiter but he went on disability.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 10:30 PM (dyewR)
59 Was it wrong to laugh at the fat lady falling down?
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Only of you didn't channel Eddie Murphy's Aunt Bunny routine.
I'm not going to hell, because I was all...
Hep me lord, bommboomboom, oh lord, help me, boomboomboom.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 10:30 PM (QVmho)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 05, 2025 10:30 PM (3pxDZ)
61
And the passings just keep on coming, co-worker that I worked with for over 15 years passed yesterday, I used to get to the office before everyone, when Bob started he got to the office earlier than I did, we had a good competition of who could get there the earliest, ultimately, he won out.
RIP Bob, you will definitely be missed.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2025 10:31 PM (XV/Pl)
62
The St. Pauli girl, for want of a better term, has worked a few Oktoberfests.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 05, 2025 10:31 PM (xqL5c)
63
Lots of great stuff tonight. Thanks Weird Dave.
There is a small area made up of very south Jersey, a piece of Delaware, and a bit of Maryland that pronounces merry, Mary, and marry individually. And, yes, I do come from that small area and after nearly 60 years in Nebraska I still pronounce each word differently. And one of these days I am going to smack the XO for asking for a "pin" when he actually wants a "pen".
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 05, 2025 10:31 PM (DK5Sh)
64
I have to figure out how to give Mrs. F. the slip tomorrow and get over to McD's for a McRib.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:31 PM (IC093)
65 I have to figure out how to give Mrs. F. the slip tomorrow and get over to McD's for a McRib.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Her car has a funneh sound and you need to test drive it. Duh.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 10:32 PM (QVmho)
66The girl actress on Buffy the Vampire Slayer is name Charisma (Carpenter).
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025
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Cordelia. Also a regular on Angel for part of the series' run.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:33 PM (wzUl9)
67
Women discover traditional marriage.
hahahahah
that's tough.
Women, come on down.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 10:34 PM (SZI4T)
68
I have to figure out how to give Mrs. F. the slip tomorrow and get over to McD's for a McRib.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
I got hungry mid-week, and decided the McD's was the closest place.
Ordered McRib. Determined McRib was not a mobile sandwich. Had forgotten that somewhere along the way.
Posted by: MkY at December 05, 2025 10:36 PM (q6tQZ)
69The girl on The Ghost & Mrs Muir is named Prudence.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025
*
Grew up with the kids TV show and didn't know it was originally a movie made in the late 1940s.
Now it is my top 5 movie favorite. Rex Harrison and Gene Tierney wow, what a beautiful couple. And what a moving story.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025
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There was a kids' TV show? I know there was a prime-time series with Edward Mulhare as the Captain and Hope Lange as the woman who buys his house, but it only lasted a year. I don't know if it was more comedy or drama with humor like the film.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:37 PM (wzUl9)
It's got to be fake but it's true. Middle finger to EU
From all I could find out, it's real.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 05, 2025 10:39 PM (df/te)
74Always been the 2nd type of Man as regards haircuts.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025
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I suggest there is a third type: the man who gets his hair cut on a schedule whether the hair needs it or not. (Yes, that's me. This summer I tried extending the three-week interval to four, and it was too much for me. I'm back to three.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:40 PM (wzUl9)
75
I got hungry mid-week, and decided the McD's was the closest place.
Ordered McRib. Determined McRib was not a mobile sandwich. Had forgotten that somewhere along the way.
Posted by: MkY at December 05, 2025 10:36 PM (q6tQZ)
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I'll have to go the ghetto but it's worth the risk. They had one at the mall but it closed.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:40 PM (IC093)
76
Robert Young Pelton, author of "World's Most Dangerous Places," said that the abbreviation for Pakistan International Airlines had several alternate meanings:
Pilot Is Asleep.
Passengers Invoking Allah.
Parachute Is Advisable.
Posted by: PabloD at December 05, 2025 10:41 PM (GALGA)
77 Wait.
I think I messed up and named the wrong TV show.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:42 PM (1lXzG)
78
Well, good evening and good night...
Thanks WD!
"Sleep: nature’s way of saying ‘you’re done for today.’”
Good night pals👋💤💤💤
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 05, 2025 10:42 PM (3pxDZ)
79 What's the TV Show with "picadilly" in the theme song?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:42 PM (1lXzG)
80
Only of you didn't channel Eddie Murphy's Aunt Bunny routine.
I'm not going to hell, because I was all...
Hep me lord, bommboomboom, oh lord, help me, boomboomboom.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 10:30 PM (QVmho)
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I didn't but I will now LOL
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:43 PM (IC093)
81 British lady, Janet Mills? She's shows up as a Nanny...
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:43 PM (1lXzG)
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:44 PM (1lXzG)
83 That's the show with the "Prudence" girl, not Ghost & Mrs Muir.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:44 PM (1lXzG)
84Robert Young Pelton, author of "World's Most Dangerous Places," said that the abbreviation for Pakistan International Airlines had several alternate meanings:
Pilot Is Asleep.
Passengers Invoking Allah.
Parachute Is Advisable.
Posted by: PabloD at December 05, 2025
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Peeing In Air
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:45 PM (wzUl9)
McDonald’s is best for an Egg McMuffin on the way up to the ski slopes.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 10:45 PM (mT+6a)
86
British lady, Janet Mills? She's shows up as a Nanny...
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:43 PM (1lXzG)
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Juliet Mills.
Nanny and the Professor.
Which incidentally, would make a fine title for a sitcom about a muslim weapons instructor who lives with a goat,
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 10:46 PM (dyewR)
87
The James Madison Dukes won the Sun Belt Conference by beating up Troy, 31-14. It was a good game till the 4th, and then JMU broke it open. the other two games tonight are not close. Boise St is beating UNLV 28-14. Tulane is stomping North Texas, 31-7.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 05, 2025 10:46 PM (YoT4f)
88
I take Boy F. and myself for haircuts every three weeks and he is super super compulsive about staying on schedule.
I had to cut his hair myself until he was about 6 because there was no way he was going to still for a barber.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:46 PM (IC093)
89British lady, Janet Mills? She's shows up as a Nanny...
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025
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Juliet Mills, daughter of John and sister of Hayley. I always thought she was much lovelier than her sister, who got all the attention back then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:46 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 10:47 PM (RdmzP)
94
Cordelia. Also a regular on Angel for part of the series' run.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:33 PM (wzUl9)
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Joss Whedon reportedly pressured her to sleep with him, as many of the actresses he employed did, but she refused, so he wrote her character in a deliberately humiliating way before killing her off.
Other cast members subsequently denounced him (including Michelle Gellar, who he had the sense never to try to score with), and he's been sidelined.
McDonald’s is best for an Egg McMuffin on the way up to the ski slopes.
Posted by: nur
there's a bunch to work with there but I am going to leave everything as is.
for now
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 10:49 PM (RdmzP)
97
89 There was a kids' TV show? I know there was a prime-time series with Edward Mulhare as the Captain and Hope Lange as the woman who buys his house, but it only lasted a year. I don't know if it was more comedy or drama with humor like the film.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:37 PM (wzUl9)
Wolfus, I called it a kid's TV show because I was a kid when I watched it...no confusion intended.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025 10:49 PM (y171U)
Apparently Ben Stiller thinks his opinions should carry weight. Which is weird, because he made a living out of being a 100% full time wimp.
Alec Baldwin supports the alleged actor "Paul Dano" as well. Alec is in the habit of shooting people he works with that he doesn't like, so I guess this endorsement is genuine.
What would we do without the Film Actors Guild?
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 10:49 PM (Cjcf6)
99
>>>And one of these days I am going to smack the XO for asking for a "pin" when he actually wants a "pen".
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin
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Tough girl, good to see you.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 10:49 PM (SZI4T)
100
Chilly and damp here, with rain due to start anytime and last through tomorrow evening. Sunday looks better, Monday will be a little colder, and then a warmup with no rain until we have about 70 F. on Thursday. I can get caught up on my workouts this week. Maybe, a road trip up to the Tecovas store about eighty miles NW of me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:50 PM (wzUl9)
101
McRib is worth trying if you like pork bbq because people who like it love it. But it is really in its own category.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:50 PM (IC093)
I joined a club, extracurricular
For those who love all things testicular,
We decked all the halls
With pictures of balls
And gave our trucks scrota, vehicular
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 05, 2025 10:51 PM (t/66j)
106Wolfus, I called [Ghost and Mrs. Muir] a kid's TV show because I was a kid when I watched it...no confusion intended.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025
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Ah. It might have been dumbed down for TV anyway, unlike the subtle humor and character interplay of the film.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:51 PM (wzUl9)
108
Wolfus, I called it a kid's TV show because I was a kid when I watched it...no confusion intended.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025 10:49 PM (y171U)
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The Ghost and Mrs. Muir?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:52 PM (IC093)
109 It had Charles Nelson Reilly in it -- it was a kids & adult kids show.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:52 PM (1lXzG)
110
bbq is way overrated, nothing more than some away to serve foods that are too tough to eat
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 10:52 PM (RdmzP)
111
81 British lady, Janet Mills? She's shows up as a Nanny...
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:43 PM (1lXzG)
Phoebe Figalilly is a silly name.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025 10:53 PM (y171U)
112
101 McRib is worth trying if you like pork bbq because people who like it love it. But it is really in its own category.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 10:50 PM (IC093)
Real talk: If you think you might like a McRib, go buy a pulled pork sammish from a BBQ place. Only buy the McRib if you are unable to find a BBQ joint in your AOO
113
I suggest there is a third type: the man who gets his hair cut on a schedule whether the hair needs it or not. (Yes, that's me. This summer I tried extending the three-week interval to four, and it was too much for me. I'm back to three.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:40 PM (wzUl9)
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It's flat out wrong. I used to get my hair cut to remain in regulation. Now I do it whenever I damn well feel like it.
It’s blowing stink out here in the beach! You got wind?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 10:54 PM (mT+6a)
118 Juliet Mills, daughter of John and sister of Hayley. I always thought she was much lovelier than her sister, who got all the attention back then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I concur, ol' chum. Juliet was lovelier than Hayley.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:54 PM (1lXzG)
119 Joss Whedon reportedly pressured her to sleep with him, as many of the actresses he employed did, but she refused, so he wrote her character in a deliberately humiliating way before killing her off.
Never trust "male feminists."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 10:48 PM (ZOv7s)
If I remember correctly, she was also pregnant during filming of Angel, and he told her to have an abortion so she could continue to be "sexy". She refused and that contributed to his disgusting treatment of her.
Posted by: moki at December 05, 2025 10:55 PM (wLjpr)
120
If anyone here really thinks a McRib tastes like Bar-b-que please travel to S.Carolina and get some.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 10:55 PM (SZI4T)
121
109
It had Charles Nelson Reilly in it -- it was a kids & adult kids show.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 10:52 PM (1lXzG)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 10:57 PM (mT+6a)
133
it is great tasting, but unecessary with good meats and definitely not healthy to eat, tough its better than smokinh cigarettes and eating the butts
however if you smoked and bbqed the butts they would taste good
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 10:56 PM (RdmzP)
Well...fair, you don't want to use the best cuts of beef (or pork) with smoked BBQ.
134It had Charles Nelson Reilly in it -- it was a kids & adult kids show.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025
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Looking it up, I see it was on for two seasons, not just one. Kenneth Mars, our old friend from The Producers ("Der Fuhrer vas an egg-zellent painter!") and Young Frankenstein, was in two episodes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:58 PM (wzUl9)
I joined a club, extracurricular
For those who love all things testicular,
We decked all the halls
With pictures of balls
And gave our trucks scrota, vehicular
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 05, 2025 10:51 PM (t/66j)
I'd say that's a Muldoon 7.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2025 10:58 PM (0CU3H)
136
Charles Nelson Reilly was a guest on The Tonight Show more than 100 times.
Posted by: Freakwent Flyer at December 05, 2025 10:59 PM (oftw2)
137
I was planning to go to a Bucc-ees for the first time this fall but dog running into a tree killed my vacation.
138
I don't even think of the McRib as "BBQ." Eating one as an adult is like eating a bowl of Kaboom because you're trying to recapture something of your lost childhood. Your sad, sad childhood.
Posted by: PabloD at December 05, 2025 10:59 PM (GALGA)
139
Helmet 8 has taken a few blows. It's got to hurt a bit taking a hit hard enough to dent a rudimentary helmet like that.
Posted by: 496 at December 05, 2025 10:59 PM (WRA0V)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2025 11:00 PM (lUFok)
142
Everything's very good. How have you been, good holiday?
Posted by: n
All good. Busy. Too many damn people for Thanksgiving.
It’s really windy tonight. I suspect the power will go out at some point.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 11:00 PM (mT+6a)
143I'm a holiday haircutter. Went right before July 4, and right before Thanksgiving. Wolfus is obsessed.
Posted by: Helmet #9 at December 05, 2025
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When your mental image of yourself is "young Robert Vaughn" and your mirror says "Charles Manson follower wannabe," it's time for a haircut.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9)
144
89 British lady, Janet Mills? She's shows up as a Nanny...
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025
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Juliet Mills, daughter of John and sister of Hayley. I always thought she was much lovelier than her sister, who got all the attention back then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 10:46 PM (wzUl9)
I remember seeing Juliet in that movie with Jack Lemmon, Avanti! If I remember, there may have been a little Northern Exposure from Juliet in that movie.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2025 11:00 PM (0CU3H)
145
I was planning to go to a Bucc-ees for the first time this fall but dog running into a tree killed my vacation.
Some day. Some day....
Posted by: Mar
If ever youre in a must have need for bucees holler and I will send you a care pkg, it travels nicely
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:01 PM (RdmzP)
146
"It's very mild and pleasant in Monroe"
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Was it the Monroe golf course that used to have a periscope?
Posted by: 496 at December 05, 2025 11:01 PM (hBtiT)
148
bbq is way overrated, nothing more than some away to serve foods that are too tough to eat
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No. I'm sorry, you're mistaken.
The best barbecue on earth is served at the original Arthur Bryant's in Kansas City. You will want to be there for the lunch or early afternoon menu. Its not (or wasn't 5 years ago) in a part of town you'd want to be in after dark.
But...my goodness...the sliced brisket and smoked sausage are out of this world! The smoked sausage is sliced length-wise, rather than into tiny circles. And the fries are perfect. But the barbecue sauce....there aren't words to explain how good it is.
If you don't appreciate barbecue done right, you might as well just go vegan and give up sex too.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 11:02 PM (Cjcf6)
149 Just completed assembling a cheap chinese stainless steel cart. A "food prep" cart, some call it. A work table, other might say.
It's on wheels. I like wheels.
For $85, it's not too bad. Supported me when I jumped on it, and the stainless steel top looks nice. I like stainless steel.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 11:02 PM (1lXzG)
I joined a club, extracurricular
For those who love all things testicular,
We decked all the halls
With pictures of balls
And gave our trucks scrota, vehicular
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 05, 2025 10:51 PM (t/66j)
I'd say that's a Muldoon 7.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2025 10:58 PM (0CU3H)
On second thought, a Muldoon 8.5. The Truck Nutz is worth 1.5 all by itself.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2025 11:02 PM (0CU3H)
151
146 "It's very mild and pleasant in Monroe"
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Was it the Monroe golf course that used to have a periscope?
Posted by: 496 at December 05, 2025 11:01 PM (hBtiT)
*checking map*
This is not the golf portion of WA state....
Echo Falls is the nearest golf course. So far as I know, they don't have flooding problems. My FFL is right near the course, so I go by it a lot.
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136 Charles Nelson Reilly was a guest on The Tonight Show more than 100 times.
Posted by: Freakwent Flyer at December 05, 2025 10:59 PM (oftw2)
He was available to cover when someone cancelled. Carlin did some that, too.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 05, 2025 11:04 PM (pIfcn)
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bbq is way overrated, nothing more than some away to serve foods that are too tough to eat
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No. I'm sorry, you're mistaken.
The best barbecue on earth is served at the original Arthur Bryant's in Kansas City. You will want to be there for the lunch or early afternoon menu. Its not (or wasn't 5 years ago) in a part of town you'd want to be in after dark.
But...my goodness...the sliced brisket and smoked sausage are out of this world! The smoked sausage is sliced length-wise, rather than into tiny circles. And the fries are perfect. But the barbecue sauce....there aren't words to explain how good it is.
If you don't appreciate barbecue done right, you might as well just go vegan and give up sex too.
Posted by: Crusader
it is not much more than flavoring, nobody goes to a great steak house and slather's sauce over some great steak, bbq tastes good but its not necessary unless you are trying to convert boots to food
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:04 PM (RdmzP)
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@135
Why thank you, Mr. Harris - you're too kind
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 05, 2025 11:04 PM (t/66j)
155
When your mental image of yourself is "young Robert Vaughn" and your mirror says "Charles Manson follower wannabe," it's time for a haircut.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I prefer the Cave Man look. People give you a wide berth in public. Also learn some facial tics.
Posted by: The Missing Link at December 05, 2025 11:04 PM (oftw2)
156
If ever youre in a must have need for bucees holler and I will send you a care pkg, it travels nicely
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:01 PM (RdmzP)
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You are very kind. May take you up on that man.
Posted by: Mar
if i did not mean it I would not say it
there's a bucees not too far from where we are
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:05 PM (RdmzP)
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OMG, the giant hell-hound is lounging on the floor next to me and he has the worst S-B-D gas. I'm hoping this is temporary and not something that will be a more frequent occurrence. I know some dogs have digestive issues as they age, and he's a little over 9 years old.
Posted by: PabloD at December 05, 2025 11:06 PM (GALGA)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2025 11:00 PM (lUFok)
Knew an atheist who's given name was Christian...
Posted by: Sir Mixalot at December 05, 2025 11:07 PM (ynpvh)
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Of course I have a local BBQ joint. I'm surrounded by hog confinements.
Posted by: pookysgirl, Iowan at December 05, 2025 11:09 PM (Wt5PA)
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Just completed assembling a cheap chinese stainless steel cart. A "food prep" cart, some call it. A work table, other might say.
It's on wheels. I like wheels.
For $85, it's not too bad. Supported me when I jumped on it, and the stainless steel top looks nice. I like stainless steel.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 11:02 PM (1lXzG)
Chinese stainless...will rust pretty easily...
Posted by: Sir Mixalot at December 05, 2025 11:09 PM (ynpvh)
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And gave our trucks scrota, vehicular
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher
Scrota Vehicular were produced behind the Iron Curtain 1947-90. Two-stroke diesel that would run on paint thinner. Smoked like all get out.
Posted by: Leutonians at December 05, 2025 11:10 PM (oftw2)
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I got a haircut back in 2020. Maybe it was 2019.
Since then I just cut a couple of inches off the ponytail when I think it needs it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:11 PM (jc0TO)
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it is not much more than flavoring, nobody goes to a great steak house and slather's sauce over some great steak, bbq tastes good but its not necessary unless you are trying to convert boots to food
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:04 PM (RdmzP)
Ah, there's your problem...you not supposed to BBQ boots...
Posted by: Sir Mixalot at December 05, 2025 11:11 PM (ynpvh)
165
Echo Falls was a pretty course. I played it a few times in the 90's. I was in a golf league, and there was a course we played that had a periscope. I wonder which one it was. I suck at golf, but it was a fun league.
Posted by: 496 at December 05, 2025 11:11 PM (1OIAD)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 11:12 PM (2WIwB)
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163 I got a haircut back in 2020. Maybe it was 2019.
Since then I just cut a couple of inches off the ponytail when I think it needs it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:11 PM (jc0TO)
it's not a terrible look unless you're going bald...then it starts looking like a Chinese queue...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM (ynpvh)
169I'm divorcing Mrs.D.and marrying bier girl!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 11:12 PM
Announcer: Beer not included. Tax and fees may apply.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM (jc0TO)
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Announcer: Beer not included. Tax and fees may apply.
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Posted by: 496 at December 05, 2025 11:14 PM (1OIAD)
171
I got a haircut back in 2020. Maybe it was 2019.
Since then I just cut a couple of inches off the ponytail when I think it needs it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:11 PM (jc0TO)
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I last saw a barber in 2000.
I got a clipper and use it when required. Which is now entirely up to me.
Haven't shaved since December, 2022, though I do trim things from time to time.
172it's not a terrible look unless you're going bald...then it starts looking like a Chinese queue...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM
I've grown a bit of forehead over the years but no balding.
Low-T FTW!
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:15 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:15 PM (snZF9)
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171 I got a haircut back in 2020. Maybe it was 2019.
Since then I just cut a couple of inches off the ponytail when I think it needs it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:11 PM (jc0TO)
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I last saw a barber in 2000.
I got a clipper and use it when required. Which is now entirely up to me.
Haven't shaved since December, 2022, though I do trim things from time to time.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:14 PM (ZOv7s)
I remember when my Dad got a Flowbee...he stopped using it after the first time when he realized he had suddenly become even MORE bald afterwards...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:16 PM (ynpvh)
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it's not a terrible look unless you're going bald...then it starts looking like a Chinese queue...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM (ynpvh)
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I disdained haircuts upon leaving the military, but one day last September, realized I was developing a natural tonsure and buzzed all of it.
Back in the 70s I resolved I would never be one of those guys who was going bald, and grew out the rest.
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172 it's not a terrible look unless you're going bald...then it starts looking like a Chinese queue...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM
I've grown a bit of forehead over the years but no balding.
Low-T FTW!
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:15 PM (jc0TO)
My hair started to thin a little a few years back. After the wife passed, it quickly thinned...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:17 PM (ynpvh)
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...it is not much more than flavoring, nobody goes to a great steak house and slather's sauce over some great steak...
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This is where the *types* of barbecue battles begin.
Kansas City barbecue and Texas barbecue are "rub" dependent, and the sauce serves as an accent.
Memphis and Carolina barbecue are sauce-dependent. They both should just give it up, because the rub is the thing, and a great sauce (not that garbage Carolina sauce) just takes it over the top.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 11:17 PM (Cjcf6)
179
My poor son takes after my wife's side of the family. He's about ten years away from a Friar Tuck.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:18 PM (jc0TO)
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it's not a terrible look unless you're going bald...then it starts looking like a Chinese queue...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM (ynpvh)
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"Try to take the grant money from my hand, grasshopper."
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176 it's not a terrible look unless you're going bald...then it starts looking like a Chinese queue...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM (ynpvh)
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I disdained haircuts upon leaving the military, but one day last September, realized I was developing a natural tonsure and buzzed all of it.
Back in the 70s I resolved I would never be one of those guys who was going bald, and grew out the rest.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:17 PM (ZOv7s)
I've basically decided the same thing. Once a certain threshold is reached, I'm going Yul Brenner.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:18 PM (ynpvh)
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Which is sad because he had a magnificent Rock God mane in HS.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:18 PM (jc0TO)
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169 I'm divorcing Mrs.D.and marrying bier girl!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 11:12 PM
Announcer: Beer not included. Tax and fees may apply.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:13 PM (jc0TO)
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Posted by: 496 at December 05, 2025 11:14 PM (1OIAD)
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Well...Hell.
*switches to scotch*
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 11:18 PM (2WIwB)
184 Haven't shaved since December, 2022, though I do trim things from time to time.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025
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I sport a "Commander Riker"-style beard (though I grew mine some months before he appeared on the show with his). It just grows that way. I keep it neat with clippers. The facial real estate that doesn't have dark beard gets shaved every day or two with a double-edged safety razor employed with brush and cream/soap.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 11:19 PM (wzUl9)
185
Ah, the sweet smell of barbeque debates. I guess it beats re-fighting the ACW.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 05, 2025 11:19 PM (QZzSm)
186
RethugliKKKans on supreme court vote on birthright citizenship. When we get in we will strip rethugs on the supreme court of their citizenship then rethugliKKKan members of congress and deport them to one of those pacific islands that are only a few inches above sea level! We will then use their redistricting to put all rethugliKKKans into just a few districts
Posted by: raimondo at December 05, 2025 11:19 PM (aRMT2)
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:21 PM (jc0TO)
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The thing is, this place is the best interaction that raimondo gets anywhere. It's why he keeps coming back.
Kind of sad, actually.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:22 PM (dyewR)
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bbq has an irish flair to it, I think, goes back to some faminie or other, when sean was saying to his wife shawn, "hey we have this bunch of hooves and tails, maybe if we hang them in a pan over the fire for a week we'll have something to eat, otherwise we have to eat those potatoes"
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:23 PM (tld9k)
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192 The thing is, this place is the best interaction that raimondo gets anywhere. It's why he keeps coming back.
Kind of sad, actually.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:22 PM (dyewR)
He's also of a mind that we should be dehumanized and put into concentration camps, apparently. Fits with the Leftist ideologies.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:23 PM (ynpvh)
195
I pity the poor person who thinks bar-b-que is only meat with flavorings.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 11:24 PM (SZI4T)
196The thing is, this place is the best interaction that raimondo gets anywhere. It's why he keeps coming back.
Kind of sad, actually.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:22 PM
It's not really him though, is it. I think he's the Mary Cloggistein of AliasSmiths.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:24 PM (jc0TO)
197
I've basically decided the same thing. Once a certain threshold is reached, I'm going Yul Brenner.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:18 PM (ynpvh)
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I've razored it a few times over the years, always in the summer.
About 15 year ago, I was on orders to provide photo support for a military-sponsored youth came and I shaved my head - and so did the other two photographers.
We all showed up, looked at each other and laughed, and everyone at the camp thought we had coordinated it.
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193 bbq has an irish flair to it, I think, goes back to some faminie or other, when sean was saying to his wife shawn, "hey we have this bunch of hooves and tails, maybe if we hang them in a pan over the fire for a week we'll have something to eat, otherwise we have to eat those potatoes"
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:23 PM (tld9k)
That's soup, dude, not BBQ.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:24 PM (ynpvh)
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I got a haircut back in 2020. Maybe it was 2019.
Since then I just cut a couple of inches off the ponytail when I think it needs it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:11 PM (jc0TO)
Last time I got anything resembling a haircut was in highschool for the year book pictures. Mom said if I didn't do it years later I would look at the picture and regret it. I look at the picture today and I still regret it. You were wrong mom. Since then its been very slight trims of no more than 1/4 " to remove any dead ends and to keep any layers. Basically, no hair cut since Reagan was president.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (snZF9)
200
I've basically decided the same thing. Once a certain threshold is reached, I'm going Yul Brenner.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:18 PM (ynpvh)
Went the Yul Brenner route years ago. The top was gone, the upper sides brown, and the lower sides white. I looked like I was wearing a friggin' horseshoe on my head. So now its as smooth as a baby's butt, and add a nice tan, it looks OK.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (2WIwB)
201
Miss Linda is dragging me tomorrow to the local German heritage society's Christmas fair, with some food and gifts and things. I wouldn't mind, except that it's in a part of the city that is hard to get to, not safe (though better than some), and annoying to drive the streets in.
She wants to go to "Christmas things." I tell her, not in the city proper. Every time I go there now it's unpleasant and scary. I'm always worried about our getting carjacked or shot, and if not that, I worry that I'm going to hit a bad pothole in the dark.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (wzUl9)
202
I was looking a head-on car crash tests from 1972 on Youtube. They teamed the large car of each manufacturer with their new compact/subcompact. Impala vs. Vega, Galaxie vs. Pinto, and Ambassador vs. Gremlin head-on at 45 MPH. All three little cars suffered pretty catastrophic damage, but the Gremlin fared the best of them. It was heavier than the other two, it being a Hornet with slice pout of the back corner and a hatchback.
Posted by: Auto Hijinks at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (oftw2)
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A pulled pork BBQ sandwich is awesome and no way overrated.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (KDPiq)
We don't allow that crap indoors, dumbass. Get out!
*Steps on joint*
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (rdVOm)
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I think he's the Mary Cloggistein of AliasSmiths.
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Cloggenstein is usually pretty clever. I don't get why some of the Horde hate her.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:26 PM (dyewR)
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197 I've basically decided the same thing. Once a certain threshold is reached, I'm going Yul Brenner.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:18 PM (ynpvh)
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I've razored it a few times over the years, always in the summer.
About 15 year ago, I was on orders to provide photo support for a military-sponsored youth came and I shaved my head - and so did the other two photographers.
We all showed up, looked at each other and laughed, and everyone at the camp thought we had coordinated it.
Now I just trim it to stubble.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:24 PM (ZOv7s)
I've gone clean a few times or more. Shaved it smoooth. The first time I did, a couple of days later, while drying my hair, the towel got stuck like velcro...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:26 PM (ynpvh)
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194 192 The thing is, this place is the best interaction that raimondo gets anywhere. It's why he keeps coming back.
Kind of sad, actually.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
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Since starting here he now can write in complete sentences.
Astonishing improvement. He keeps visiting, critical judgement may creep into his mind.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 11:27 PM (SZI4T)
208
I think Assman is a legitimate troll. Rainmando not so much.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:27 PM (jc0TO)
209
we have backyard nabes from tenessee, they got a cement pond last week,
The had some smoked bbqed turkey for Thanksgiving, it was getting gassed for a day and a half,
the entire time we could smell it and it smelled good, however, I could not help thinking they were going to a bunch of work to infuse something with the same things we pay somebody to remove from our chimney.
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:27 PM (tld9k)
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It's not really him though, is it. I think he's the Mary Cloggistein of AliasSmiths.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:24 PM (jc0TO)
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The whole "When we get power we will kill you all" schtick is self-limiting, because it begs the question: If you will harm us, why would you ever be allowed to gain power?
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I don't understand smoking food for a million hours or giving it a tepid bath for a day. I don't have time for that shit.
Posted by: NCKate at December 05, 2025 11:27 PM (uQzkA)
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He's also of a mind that we should be dehumanized and put into concentration camps, apparently. Fits with the Leftist ideologies.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:23 PM (ynpvh)
He better bring a lot of fucking guns, or else the left will be fertilizer in those camps.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:27 PM (snZF9)
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202 I was looking a head-on car crash tests from 1972 on Youtube. They teamed the large car of each manufacturer with their new compact/subcompact. Impala vs. Vega, Galaxie vs. Pinto, and Ambassador vs. Gremlin head-on at 45 MPH. All three little cars suffered pretty catastrophic damage, but the Gremlin fared the best of them. It was heavier than the other two, it being a Hornet with slice pout of the back corner and a hatchback.
Posted by: Auto Hijinks at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (oftw2)
Yeah, the physics is quite unkind. Even if the car isn't mangled, the deceleration of the passengers will be quite larger for the occupants of the smaller car than the larger car...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:28 PM (ynpvh)
214
Sorry I'm late, the rabbit re-scheduled its vasectomy at the last minute. An hour later I had to schedule its wife a sonogram.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 05, 2025 11:28 PM (SnVNy)
215 Yes, chinese "stainless steel" is quite magnetic, or ferritic, because china sucks at everything they produce. They are an inferior people in every way.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2025 11:29 PM (1lXzG)
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210 It's not really him though, is it. I think he's the Mary Cloggistein of AliasSmiths.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:24 PM (jc0TO)
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The whole "When we get power we will kill you all" schtick is self-limiting, because it begs the question: If you will harm us, why would you ever be allowed to gain power?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:27 PM (ZOv7s)
Also assumes passive or non-resistance.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:29 PM (ynpvh)
We don't allow that crap indoors, dumbass. Get out!
*Steps on joint*
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 11:25 PM (rdVOm)
Yeah, only the good stuff, no horse shit and splinters.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:29 PM (snZF9)
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'bout time I headed off to bed. I'll run some errands in the morning if it's not raining heavily, nap a bit, and then I'll drive Linda to her German-American fair. (I always say, "When, oh, when are they going to have a National Socialist Night?")
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 05, 2025 11:29 PM (wzUl9)
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What really bugs me about eating out in general is all the peasant food we ate as kids or our parents ate has now gone mainstream and is hideously expensive: polenta, pasta, mush, cheap cuts of meat cooked slowly (brisket), cod, etc.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2025 11:30 PM (cYBz/)
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I've gone clean a few times or more. Shaved it smoooth. The first time I did, a couple of days later, while drying my hair, the towel got stuck like velcro...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:26 PM (ynpvh)
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Pat it dry. You'll give yourself whiplash if you try to move the towel too fast.
Not gonna lie. When it is really, really hot, that is the secret sauce to staying cool. Feel the breeze on that scalp skin!
Because of my thinning hair, I'll probably clip it before spring, but not super-close. The beard will mitigate the heat loss.
221 I was looking a head-on car crash tests from 1972 on Youtube.
Posted by: Auto Hijinks
Heh. That video popped up on my Youtube today, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2025 11:31 PM (1lXzG)
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@194 you have to be human to be dehumanized. @188 I am none of those projection?
Posted by: raimondo at December 05, 2025 11:31 PM (aRMT2)
223
Retardo mentioned the "natural-born citizen" decision. Has that come down? Woulda thought it would rate a thread, either way the decision went.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 11:32 PM (npFr7)
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218 'bout time I headed off to bed. I'll run some errands in the morning if it's not raining heavily, nap a bit, and then I'll drive Linda to her German-American fair. (I always say, "When, oh, when are they going to have a National Socialist Night?")
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
Please greet the Bund for me!
Posted by: Franz Liebkind! at December 05, 2025 11:33 PM (oftw2)
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Yeah, only the good stuff, no horse shit and splinters.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Exactly!
(and no alfalfa. sheesh)
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 11:33 PM (rdVOm)
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I don't understand smoking food for a million hours...
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Sincerely, just take a simple test drive by ignoring "barbecue" and instead putting some sort of meat into something as simple as a crock pot. If you leave it in there on low and wait 8 hours to retrieve it, it will *crumble* in tenderness to a simple fork. Smoking does the same thing, but you get to add a "rub" of whatever spices you might want to add.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 11:33 PM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 05, 2025 11:34 PM (1Nv0l)
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Yes, chinese "stainless steel" is quite magnetic, or ferritic, because china sucks at everything they produce. They are an inferior people in every way.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2025 11:29 PM (1lXzG)
Their metallurgy is crap. I see it in the garbage aftermarket harley engine parts that no harley wrench worth his salt would ever use. The shit is comical, they could fuck up tin foil. The real question is do they actually know how to do it and keep it for themselves, and then flood the world with the lesser garbage. I'm pretty sure they could be assholes like that. Especially with all the technology they steal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:34 PM (snZF9)
232
Who was the notorious anti-communist fighter who was asked what it felt like to kill a fellow man and replied "I don't know, I've only killed Communists"?
I've quoted him before. There was quite the "White Army in Being" between the world wars and afterwards. It doesn't get a lot of attention in the Western press because they're all pink or red, but it was a thing. A bunch of Finns came to Spain to stop the Reds, but it gets scant attention.
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231 Yes, chinese "stainless steel" is quite magnetic, or ferritic, because china sucks at everything they produce. They are an inferior people in every way.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2025 11:29 PM (1lXzG)
Their metallurgy is crap. I see it in the garbage aftermarket harley engine parts that no harley wrench worth his salt would ever use. The shit is comical, they could fuck up tin foil. The real question is do they actually know how to do it and keep it for themselves, and then flood the world with the lesser garbage. I'm pretty sure they could be assholes like that. Especially with all the technology they steal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:34 PM (snZF9)
The proof is in the pudding. We'll see when their warships get into a real war...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:35 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 11:33 PM (rdVOm)
Idaho weed, i.e. hemp?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)
Shitty Jamaican brown frown.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:36 PM (snZF9)
235
We view you as more as a projectile than a projection. Really mostly a projectard...
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 05, 2025 11:36 PM (t/66j)
236
Idaho weed, i.e. hemp?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Naw, hemp is "Kansas Killer" -- the headache maker!
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 11:36 PM (rdVOm)
237
The proof is in the pudding. We'll see when their warships get into a real war...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:35 PM (ynpvh)
Didn't they actually have problems with the steel in their ships?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:37 PM (snZF9)
238
>>>Yeah, the physics is quite unkind. Even if the car isn't mangled, the deceleration of the passengers will be quite larger for the occupants of the smaller car than the larger car...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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This teeny car is the safest. No. That teeny car is the safest in its class. Head on the safest teeny car into a Chevy 1/2 ton and see who walks away.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 11:37 PM (SZI4T)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:35 PM (ZOv7s)
Intertubes say Rafał Gan-Ganowicz
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:37 PM (ynpvh)
240
Their metallurgy is crap. I see it in the garbage aftermarket harley engine parts that no harley wrench worth his salt would ever use. The shit is comical, they could fuck up tin foil. The real question is do they actually know how to do it and keep it for themselves, and then flood the world with the lesser garbage. I'm pretty sure they could be assholes like that. Especially with all the technology they steal.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:34 PM (snZF9)
Didn't they have a newly-launched naval vessel sink right at the pier?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 11:37 PM (npFr7)
241
Didn't they actually have problems with the steel in their ships?
Posted by: Bers
We have too, the cunt that was in charge of testing the hy steel we use for subs was passing the quality tests without doing the testing of the steel she was given
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:38 PM (tld9k)
242
"Hey guys! We're going to go all in on breaking the law and of course you will still follow it, and then when we steal elections and regain power we will send you to camps! Ha! Ha! Ha! How will you like that?
Oh, also we'll make you turn in your guns just by asking, because we're retarded."
243
237 The proof is in the pudding. We'll see when their warships get into a real war...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:35 PM (ynpvh)
Didn't they actually have problems with the steel in their ships?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:37 PM (snZF9)
If there is, it would be a Titanic mistake on their part.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:39 PM (ynpvh)
244
same as with faling from a building, its not the falling it the sudden stopping
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:39 PM (tld9k)
245
241 Didn't they actually have problems with the steel in their ships?
Posted by: Bers
We have too, the cunt that was in charge of testing the hy steel we use for subs was passing the quality tests without doing the testing of the steel she was given
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:38 PM (tld9k)
There were also cases where the bolts, which were supposed to be made with a SPECIFIC strength of steel, were allowed to be used, only to find out later those bolts did not meet spec even though they were marked as meeting spec...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (ynpvh)
246
Before the world was safe I drove to work pre-dawn. - The drunks were still on the road. Head on between a Chevy 1/2 ton and a Corvette.
Cops were walking around with two bags, one to pick up pieces of the vette the other to pick up pieces of the driver.
Driver of the pickup was walking around dazed holding a cloth to his banged forehead.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (SZI4T)
247 The real question is do they actually know how to do it and keep it for themselves
Posted by: Berserker
I have a theory: the chinese have no idea what they're making and what it's used for, because they are uneducated peasants communist slaves who own nothing.
That's why all their electronics are junk. For instance, they make "jumper cables" out of 10 gauge aluminum wire because they don't know what jumper cables are for -- they just know how to copy stuff and make it as cheap as possible.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (1lXzG)
248
same as with faling from a building, its not the falling it the sudden stopping
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:39 PM (tld9k)
Cause of death? High speed dirt.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (snZF9)
249
248 same as with faling from a building, its not the falling it the sudden stopping
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:39 PM (tld9k)
Cause of death? High speed dirt.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (snZF9)
excessive deceleration...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:43 PM (ynpvh)
250
Didn't they actually have problems with the steel in their ships?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:37 PM (snZF9)
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China has a bunch of problems. The first is that military service is traditionally regarded as socially undesirable. In the old Confucian system, soldiers weren't even ranked. Bandits in uniforms.
Communism tried to change that, but ChiComs could never make up their minds: are we elite professionals or peasants with guns? So they went back and forth.
Right now it's a racket. The PLA is also a business. The generals expect to get rich. Conformity is the rule, and that goes back thousands of years.
So you have a combination of zero warrior culture, historic and current pressures to cover up problems rather than solve them, and the endemic corruption of Communism.
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:44 PM (tld9k)
254
242 "Hey guys! We're going to go all in on breaking the law and of course you will still follow it, and then when we steal elections and regain power we will send you to camps! Ha! Ha! Ha! How will you like that?
Oh, also we'll make you turn in your guns just by asking, because we're retarded."
Posted by: Current Day leftists at December 05, 2025 11:38 PM (ZOv7s)
Well, the first part sorta worked, right?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:44 PM (ynpvh)
255
I have a theory: the chinese have no idea what they're making and what it's used for, because they are uneducated peasants communist slaves who own nothing.
That's why all their electronics are junk. For instance, they make "jumper cables" out of 10 gauge aluminum wire because they don't know what jumper cables are for -- they just know how to copy stuff and make it as cheap as possible.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (1lXzG)
You know, it almost seems like that. Nothing ever seems to be engineered right, it almost always looks like a facsimile, as if they made it from a picture. Kinda like if you sent a picture of a boat back to 1,000,000 BC and see with the primitives come up with.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:44 PM (snZF9)
256
There were also cases where the bolts, which were supposed to be made with a SPECIFIC strength of steel, were allowed to be used, only to find out later those bolts did not meet spec even though they were marked as meeting spec...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (ynpvh)
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They've had multiple large bridges fall down in just the last few weeks.
Posted by: Miklos, volunteer Elvis Santa at December 05, 2025 11:46 PM (N7hqt)
259
Xi's amping up his people.
Every day is a training day.
https://tinyurl.com/5afkhyrf
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 11:47 PM (SZI4T)
260
My computer refuses to show that image, says it's a potential security risk...
it was a picture of christi brinkley having sex with her daughters of a smiley face
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:47 PM (tld9k)
261
They've had multiple large bridges fall down in just the last few weeks.
QC is not their strength.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:45 PM (ZOv7s)
I have...stories.
One of my favorites: They had a process in place that all Ethernet cables at the factory had to be inspected, so when bad cables started to get out, they went and checked what went wrong. Sure enough, the cables HAD been inspected, but not being told what to do with failing cables, they were passed along with the passing cables...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: n at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (tld9k)
263
Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (CHHv1)
264
They've had multiple large bridges fall down in just the last few weeks.
QC is not their strength.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:45 PM (ZOv7s)
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Rumor has it their brand new carrier Fujian is a mess. It's got electromagnetic catapults with steam turbine propulsion that probably won't be able to supply the massive electrical requirements while powering the rest of the ship. (This is what nuclear reactors are for.)
But electromagnetic catapults were insisted on by the political bosses, so in they went.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:49 PM (dyewR)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:51 PM (ynpvh)
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But electromagnetic catapults were insisted on by the political bosses, so in they went.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:49 PM (dyewR)
Vast banks of lithium batteries down in the bilges, to run the catapults. What could go wrong?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 11:52 PM (npFr7)
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>>>You know, it almost seems like that. Nothing ever seems to be engineered right, it almost always looks like a facsimile, as if they made it from a picture. Kinda like if you sent a picture of a boat back to 1,000,000 BC and see with the primitives come up with.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
--
Cargo culture
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 11:52 PM (SZI4T)
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242 "Hey guys! We're going to go all in on breaking the law and of course you will still follow it, and then when we steal elections and regain power we will send you to camps! Ha! Ha! Ha! How will you like that?
Oh, also we'll make you turn in your guns just by asking, because we're retarded."
Posted by: Current Day leftists at December 05, 2025 11:38 PM (ZOv7s)
*applauds*
Yes. That's where we're at.
If you don't believe that's where we're at, review what was "our" response to Covid. We complied. We willingly walked to the train. We stayed away from family because they told us to. We stayed away from church because they told us to. We didn't get our hair cut because they told us to.
The weed shops stayed open, but family gatherings and church was completely *out*.
The left now believes we won't fight.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 11:52 PM (Cjcf6)
274196 The thing is, this place is the best interaction that raimondo gets anywhere. It's why he keeps coming back.
Kind of sad, actually.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:22 PM
It's not really him though, is it. I think he's the Mary Cloggistein of AliasSmiths.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 11:24 PM (jc0TO)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYBODY SOCKING HIM WITH A STUPID COMMENT !
Posted by: BEN ROTHESBERGERER at December 05, 2025 11:53 PM (X5Jzz)
275
Well, I'm off (more than just mentally). Night all.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:54 PM (ynpvh)
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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:49 PM (dyewR)
I think Trump recently commented that the electromagnetic catapult is inferior to the steam powered catapult. I don’t know why he came to that conclusion but I assume he had conversations with knowledgeable people who have that opinion.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 11:54 PM (KDPiq)
277 But electromagnetic catapults were insisted on by the political bosses, so in they went.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2025 11:49 PM (dyewR)
Now we just need them to launch Zumwalt knockoffs because espionage can also be hilarious.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 05, 2025 11:55 PM (pIfcn)
278
Um…America doesn’t have the “tax farm” system that the Ottimans had. Nor a confused line of succession.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 05, 2025 11:55 PM (6KcYW)
279What really bugs me about eating out in general is all the peasant food we ate as kids or our parents ate has now gone mainstream and is hideously expensive: polenta, pasta, mush, cheap cuts of meat cooked slowly (brisket), cod, etc.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2025 11:30 PM (cYBz/)
Beef tongue is $9 a lb. It used to be something you got for the dog.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2025 11:56 PM (rbvCR)
280
I tend to think because Covid response was so fucked up that people will not refrain from cutting a bitch the next time. Just my thought.
Posted by: NCKate at December 05, 2025 11:57 PM (uQzkA)
281
Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (CHHv1)
Ja! You are scum! If you are a good boy, you may lick my boots!
Posted by: Mistress Ilsa, She-Wolf of the ONT at December 05, 2025 11:57 PM (QZzSm)
282
If excessive depressurization is the bends,
is excessive deceleration the splats?
I mean, it's ED either way...
Posted by: Piercello at December 05, 2025 11:57 PM (NRGJj)
283 The left now believes we won't fight.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 11:52 PM (Cjc
Um, they never have. And it didn’t take the coof.
But where would you? Remember the switch is easy to turn on and hard to turn off.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 05, 2025 11:58 PM (6KcYW)
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Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 11:52 PM (Cjcf6)
I don’t know where you live but I didn’t do any of those things you listed.,
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 11:58 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 11:33 PM (rdVOm)
Idaho weed, i.e. hemp?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)
Shitty Jamaican brown frown.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2025 11:36 PM (snZF9)
We called it "Kansas Killer" back in the day.
Posted by: a.moron at December 05, 2025 11:58 PM (X5Jzz)
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I think Trump recently commented that the electromagnetic catapult is inferior to the steam powered catapult. I don’t know why he came to that conclusion but I assume he had conversations with knowledgeable people who have that opinion.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 11:54 PM (KDPiq)
Well, steam catapults have proven satisfactory for 70 years or more, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 11:58 PM (npFr7)
287And gave our trucks scrota, vehicular
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher
Yay. It worked. So glad someone took up the challenge. Well done.
Among tonight's "wandered off to watch" was Pearl Harbor December 5. 1941 with the History Guy. How the ships ended up in Pearl, or not, that fateful Sunday.
Did not yet watch that movie guy, but it's on my TBW list. John Carter and King Arthur, The Sequels that Never Were. Interested in Carter, not so much in Arthur. Maybe that will save me half the 28 minutes.
Enjoyable Friday ONT as always, WeirdDave. Imagine I made a bunch of comments on all the bits. I'll just say, beer girl was a suspenseful video with a happy ending. Bleachers Beluga, also suspenseful. Not so happy, but satisfying funny schadenfreudeally.
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I mean, it's ED either way...
Posted by: Piercello at December 05, 2025 11:57 PM (NRGJj)
Bob Dole has a blue pill for that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 12:00 AM (npFr7)
289 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYBODY SOCKING HIM WITH A STUPID COMMENT !
Posted by: BEN ROTHESBERGERER
https://stoatnet.org/raimondo.php
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 12:00 AM (pkeXY)
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178 Kansas City barbecue and Texas barbecue are "rub" dependent, and the sauce serves as an accent.
Memphis and Carolina barbecue are sauce-dependent. They both should just give it up, because the rub is the thing, and a great sauce (not that garbage Carolina sauce) just takes it over the top.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 11:17 PM (Cjcf6)
Ah....there's the rub.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:01 AM (QGaXH)
291
There were also cases where the bolts, which were supposed to be made with a SPECIFIC strength of steel, were allowed to be used, only to find out later those bolts did not meet spec even though they were marked as meeting spec...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 11:41 PM (ynpvh)
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They've had multiple large bridges fall down in just the last few weeks.
QC is not their strength.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 05, 2025 11:45 PM (ZOv7s)
A dude brought in a set of lifters for his harley engine one day. I looked them over quick and said they're probably chinese junk. You can tell, completely unrefined. Harleys have roller cams, had them since christ was a child. The rollers are held into the lifter body with a steel pin that are staked in. Good lifters have a serious stake, you can tell they were done in a press under 1000s of pounds of pressure. The ones on the chinese pieces of shit had the pins protruding to where the lifters wouldn't even slide into the lifter bores. Its like they copied the lifter, but had no clue what it did, and that it actually had to fit in a bore. I told the dude to throw them out.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 12:01 AM (snZF9)
292
m…America doesn’t have the “tax farm” system that the Ottimans had. Nor a confused line of succession.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 05, 2025 11:55 PM (6KcYW)
Yeah that doomsaying text left out a lot of historic facts. Mainly the USA has had similar periods before only worse.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 12:01 AM (KDPiq)
The World runs on Oil, but Lithium sure is catching up fast. So much of the Stuff we use every day is powered by lithium batteries and we're screwed without it.
We allowed china to control the World's Lithium, pretty much. Smart.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 12:02 AM (1lXzG)
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>>>Beef tongue is $9 a lb. It used to be something you got for the dog.
Posted by: Kindltot
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A year or two ago there was a drought in the mid-west all the way up to Idaho. At the same time governments were regulating water away from ranchers and farmers. There was a big sell off of beef.
Remember when Bidenomics eggs were going through the roof beef was not.
Well that law of supply and demand is back at us.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 12:02 AM (SZI4T)
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263 Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (CHHv1)
Oh, come on BC, you're certainly not everything...
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 12:03 AM (0CU3H)
296
Shhhhhhhh.....I saw a boob. Now, I can't be certain, but if we're really quiet we might see another one. They usually travel in pairs.
Posted by: Orson at December 06, 2025 12:05 AM (dIske)
297
I do like it when women wear a sweater with a hole in it and the decorate a nice breast to look like a reindeer.
Just love it.
Fun gals.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 12:05 AM (W7XSX)
298
Breaking news! It’s past 11 and I am still awake AND the tree that has been fighting me to the death is just about finished - it might even be the best one to date!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 12:06 AM (ZdaMQ)
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289
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYBODY SOCKING HIM WITH A STUPID COMMENT !
Posted by: BEN ROTHESBERGERER
https://stoatnet.org/raimondo.php
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 06, 2025 12:00 AM (pkeXY)
O....M...G.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 12:06 AM (0CU3H)
300I think Trump recently commented that the electromagnetic catapult is inferior to the steam powered catapult. I don’t know why he came to that conclusion but I assume he had conversations with knowledgeable people who have that opinion.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 11:54 PM (KDPiq)
Doesn't the Ford use EM catapult?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 12:06 AM (rbvCR)
The World runs on Oil, but Lithium sure is catching up fast. So much of the Stuff we use every day is powered by lithium batteries and we're screwed without it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 12:02 AM (1lXzG)
Oil is a source of energy. Lithium is used to make batteries which can store energy. Lithium is not a source of energy and cannot and will not replace oil.
Posted by: a.moron at December 06, 2025 12:07 AM (X5Jzz)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 12:07 AM (dyewR)
303
Ottomans??? There’s plenty of historical comparisons one could make to our situation, but not the Ottomans, they were nothing like us.
Most often I think of us as a slightly pre-Sulla Rome.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 12:10 AM (c7Ygk)
304It's going to be a feature of the entire class.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 06, 2025 12:07 AM (dyewR)
Did they get it to work, finally?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 12:11 AM (rbvCR)
305
Doesn't the Ford use EM catapult?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 12:06 AM (rbvCR)
Yes. , they replaced the steam catapults.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 12:11 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: turambar at December 06, 2025 12:13 AM (Q0yOR)
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Time to read for a bit, then off to bed. See you miscreants on the prayer thread, or maybe the tech report if my traditional Friday night / Saturday morning insomnia kicks in.
Posted by: PabloD at December 06, 2025 12:14 AM (GALGA)
311 I think we are post-Aurelius Rome.
Posted by: no one at December 06, 2025 12:11 AM (W7XSX)
Yep, about 1,900 years or so.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 12:14 AM (rbvCR)
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303 Ottomans??? There’s plenty of historical comparisons one could make to our situation, but not the Ottomans, they were nothing like us.
Most often I think of us as a slightly pre-Sulla Rome.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 12:10 AM (c7Ygk)
As great as the Ottomans may have been, they were begging for mercy after encountering one fat, naked man.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 12:14 AM (0CU3H)
313 Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
You got this, bruh.
Chin up. Chest out. Act like you got, and people will treat you like you got it. It becomes habit, then you start believing it yourself when others treat as such.
You got this shit.
*bro hug*
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 06, 2025 12:15 AM (QVmho)
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222: See ? You folk said his name too many times and look what happened....
*Goes looking for mop, bucket....grumbling to self the whole way....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:17 AM (QGaXH)
315 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANYBODY SOCKING HIM WITH A STUPID COMMENT !
Posted by: BEN ROTHESBERGERER
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https://stoatnet.org/raimondo.php
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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O....M...G.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
As a service connected disabled veteran with ibs.... i've had less painfull shits than what it took to read that.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 06, 2025 12:19 AM (QVmho)
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President Donald Trump announced plans to sign an executive order directing the U.S. Navy to revert back to traditional steam-powered catapults for aircraft carriers instead of the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) currently in use. He made this announcement during a visit to the USS George Washington on October 28, 2025.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 12:19 AM (SZI4T)
317
Breaking news! It’s past 11 and I am still awake AND the tree that has been fighting me to the death is just about finished - it might even be the best one to date!
Posted by: Piper at December 06, 2025 12:06 AM (ZdaMQ)
I'm on the last string of lights, I had to get more since a few strings were dead. That concludes day 1. I think there is about 1400 lights on it. Tomorrow is most of the ornaments, and sunday is the rest of them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 12:20 AM (snZF9)
318
Breaking news! It’s past 11 and I am still awake AND the tree that has been fighting me to the death is just about finished - it might even be the best one to date!
Posted by: Piper
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Christmas trees are like doggos-- every single one is *The Best Ever*
Congratulations on having successfully drinkorated!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:20 AM (rdVOm)
319
Anyhow, I bought a bunch of pork shoulder and I am considering turning it into sausage. It is a bit fatty so it should be just fine.
I am thinking "apple sausage" since I still have some apples from the tree.
once I bought a brisket on impulse, and corned it, It turned out very nice.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 12:20 AM (rbvCR)
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222: See ? You folk said his name too many times and look what happened....
*Goes looking for mop, bucket....grumbling to self the whole way....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:17 AM (QGaXH)
Reminded me of my favorite walks into a bar joke.
A skeleton walks into a bar. The bartender say ‘ what can I get you’
The skeleton replies ‘ I’ll take a beer and a mop’
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 12:20 AM (KDPiq)
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223 Retardo mentioned the "natural-born citizen" decision. Has that come down? Woulda thought it would rate a thread, either way the decision went.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 11:32 PM (npFr7)
I believe the supremes just decided to hear arguments.
I can go to my in-laws for that!
Saw your post t'other night about space for RV/camper at Stately Peon Manner. Will keep it in mind if ever up that way.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:20 AM (QGaXH)
322
The girls names that start with P combined with my experiences with computers along with the majority of AI pics remind me of a thought I often have...is AI a danger to humans because of evil, or is the problem going to be that if important decisions are made by it incredibly stupid things will happen
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 06, 2025 12:21 AM (3/XaG)
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 12:19 AM (SZI4T)
When it works as intended the EC has a few advantages , mainly less wear on the air frames and less maintenance. They need to work out the bugs .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 06, 2025 12:23 AM (KDPiq)
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Sister and niece blitz the house last week so the house is decorated. No stress. Love it when a plan comes together and I don't have to do a thing.
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295 263 Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (CHHv1)
Oh, come on BC, you're certainly not everything...
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 12:03 AM (0CU3H)
I'm joking, of course, but I don't want to leave this at that.
I've had a very, very challenging year. I lost my job in August of last year, and I haven't had a steady job since. At my age (29+..), I realized that getting a regular job again was not going to be in the cards for me. That really sucked, because I like working and I don't like having my wife's consulting income as the primary source, but that's reality. A few months ago, I decided to take the bull by the horns and understand that God has given me an opportunity to completely reinvent myself. A few months - and one local election - later, my life is opening up big-time. I've always liked politics, and I now have the freedom to volunteer. That has opened up amazing opportunities for me that I'm just beginning to walk through now.
I don't know what you're going through, but I will tell you that if you keep walking, some very, very interesting things happen.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 12:26 AM (0CU3H)
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While it has undergone testing, real-world scenarios, especially during wartime, can introduce unforeseen challenges.
Dependence on Electrical Systems: Electrical components, particularly in a saltwater environment, face risks of corrosion and failure, which could compromise operations.
Saltwater Impact: Despite advancements in material science, continuous exposure to saltwater could lead to degradation over time, affecting the long-term viability of electrical system
While EMALS offers several advantages, your concerns emphasize the need for careful consideration of its application in real-world situations, especially where reliability is paramount. ...
_DDG AI
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 12:26 AM (SZI4T)
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Another stabbing on a train here in Charlotte. The ACC championship game is tomorrow so we are getting good PR again.
Posted by: NCKate at December 06, 2025 12:27 AM (uQzkA)
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263 Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (CHHv1)
BC - if you are still here - You are most definitely NOT worthless. You are valued.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:27 AM (QGaXH)
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158 OMG, the giant hell-hound is lounging on the floor next to me and he has the worst S-B-D gas. I'm hoping this is temporary and not something that will be a more frequent occurrence. I know some dogs have digestive issues as they age, and he's a little over 9 years old.
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Raise the food dish above the ground (like on a small box) Bending over too far when eating means they swallow more air (which of course comes out the other end)
Posted by: As not seen on TV at December 06, 2025 12:28 AM (aRKFD)
330is AI a danger to humans because of evil, or is the problem going to be that if important decisions are made by it incredibly stupid things will happen
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 06, 2025 12:21 AM (3/XaG)
Listen, and understand. Customer service is there, on the phone. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear. It will not provide answers or resolve problems. It will route you to different "desks" in different "units" for "advanced resolution" and go on every hour in every day, and you will be in the call-tree loop of hell until you are dead!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 12:30 AM (rbvCR)
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>>BC - if you are still here - You are most definitely NOT worthless. You are valued.
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^^^^This!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm)
"I must not be safe.
safety is the fun-killer.
safety is for children, customers and the help.
I will face safety.
I will permit safety directives to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn to see its fruits.
Where safety directives have passed, nothing will have been achieved.
Only I will remain."
Posted by: Kindltot at December 06, 2025 12:34 AM (rbvCR)
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I believe everyone has worth and I tell myself that every single day - even when I don't feel like I do. Depression is a demon some fight every single day and unless you have been there, done that you don't fully understand.
I pray for those here and myself that deal with it. I pray for those who toss out prayer requests. I pray for everyone here because I may never meet you, I still believe you are my "friend". I think we get that even if our family and friends do not fully understand. LOL
Posted by: turambar at December 06, 2025 12:34 AM (Q0yOR)
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303 Ottomans??? There’s plenty of historical comparisons one could make to our situation, but not the Ottomans, they were nothing like us.
Most often I think of us as a slightly pre-Sulla Rome.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2025 12:10 AM (c7Ygk)
That's it. Keep saying 'Otto....' - next thing you know a picture of a nekkid fat dude sitting on one's gonna appear...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:34 AM (QGaXH)
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The gusty wind that nurse warned about, has arrived here. Not terrible, really. Must've gotten slowed-down by the Cascades.
It's now 55F outside. Much warmer than the 40 degrees we had at noon, LOL. But it won't be long before temp drops & stays low again.
Can maybe do some yard stuff if it's not pouring rain this weekend.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:35 AM (rdVOm)
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The girls names that start with P combined with my experiences with computers along with the majority of AI pics remind me of a thought I often have...is AI a danger to humans because of evil, or is the problem going to be that if important decisions are made by it incredibly stupid things will happen
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 06, 2025 12:21 AM (3/XaG)
I've always considered the scariest part of AI to be the decisions that we'll let it make for us.
Posted by: Nerd Herd at December 06, 2025 12:36 AM (NZPfR)
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Saw your post t'other night about space for RV/camper at Stately Peon Manner. Will keep it in mind if ever up that way.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan
What you do, is buy a busted up one for cheap a few miles down the road.
AOP will either fix it, or let you park it there until it becomes parts.
Posted by: The Wtertched Museum of First Peoples Panhards at December 06, 2025 12:37 AM (N7hqt)
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The Great BBQ War: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=340203#c20766902
If some of the references seem dated, remember I wrote it 12 years ago.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 06, 2025 12:38 AM (GjvfC)
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Hey sexists! For the first time in auto racing championship history their will be more female drivers then men. Saudi f4 this weekend. Also Jade Avedisian will be stock car racing at 5 flags against over 50 men. For non sexists she could use your support as woman have a hard time finding rides in nascar. Ask Hailie Deegan and Natalie Decker how hard it is.
Posted by: raimondo at December 06, 2025 12:39 AM (aRMT2)
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Christmas trees are like doggos-- every single one is *The Best Ever*
Congratulations on having successfully drinkorated!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:20 AM (rdVOm)
Not sure I could do mine any better. 1400 lights, probably close to 300 frigging ornaments. There is no more real estate for improvement, lol.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 12:39 AM (snZF9)
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Posted by: turambar at December 06, 2025 12:34 AM
I agree with all you wrote. Thanks for posting it!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:39 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 12:39 AM (1lXzG)
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If you've ever done "customer service" or heard it being done, you will understand. Low paid people, usually being monitored and controlled by slightly higher paid people, with "goals" to hit and often "words you must or cannot use" with the result of not meeting these idiotic standards being harangued by people.you wouldn't even talk to in real life. Meanwhile, having zero authority to solve any of the few problems that aren't a result of incredible dense news and having to send them to someone else who has that authority. Bigger the organization, the more this all is intensified.
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 06, 2025 12:40 AM (3/XaG)
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I love barbecue like I love women- there's something lovely in most. NC whole-hog barbecue with a vinegar-based sauce is great. Texas BBQ with mesquite is delicious. Kansas City makes amazing BBQ. Southern BBQ with a sweet sauce is delicious. It's true that you can use sauce to cover bad barbecue, but not all barbecue misuses sauce. Some sauces are excellent.
Posted by: Nerd Herd at December 06, 2025 12:41 AM (NZPfR)
The name "Pamela" was unknown in Hungary until they started showing the TV show Dallas.
The gypsies in particular started naming their girl babies after the character.
Now many Pa-me-lahs in Hungary, none of whom resemble Victoria Principal
Posted by: Friday Fun Fact Miklos at December 06, 2025 12:42 AM (N7hqt)
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338 Posted by: The Wtertched Museum of First Peoples Panhards at December 06, 2025 12:37 AM (N7hqt)
Miklos....of course....I shoulda known....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:43 AM (QGaXH)
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I lost my job right before Thanksgiving and have yet to tell anyone in my family. Living with my elderly parents and helping them adds to the stress. I will find something. I have to. Remote/work from home is what I have been doing. We shall see what I can find next week. Prayers if you are the praying type and I thank you.
Yes, I lurk but read every single day and night and have for a long time. This place is a home from the crazy out there in the weird wide web.
Posted by: turambar at December 06, 2025 12:43 AM (Q0yOR)
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Imagine having the last name Fish...
Posted by: Soothsayer
And the first name Stanley
What has the culture gone to...
Posted by: Miklos is surprised that Duke ever hired him at December 06, 2025 12:43 AM (N7hqt)
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Jeepers, Bers! 1400 lights? On *one* tree? How tall is that tree?
I have a total of 375 lights. Includes 100 minis on the tree, 25 C6s around one window, and 50 C9s plus 200 minis across the deck.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:44 AM (rdVOm)
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Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (CHHv1)
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I'm glad you're here. Nobody is worthless. You're going thru a hard time, and there's nothing fun about that. But you're here. And tomorrow could bring a change to your circumstances.
Because of that, get some sleep and then tomorrow "accidentally" bump into as many people as you can. They might have a suggestion, or a solution. Just smile, even though you might not feel like smiling. Engage in some some small talk. See what happens.
I'm not a great Man of God, but I believe in him. I will pray for you tonight.
I hope your Saturday is amazing!
Posted by: Crusader at December 06, 2025 12:44 AM (Cjcf6)
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I believe everyone has worth and I tell myself that every single day - even when I don't feel like I do. Depression is a demon some fight every single day and unless you have been there, done that you don't fully understand.
I pray for those here and myself that deal with it. I pray for those who toss out prayer requests. I pray for everyone here because I may never meet you, I still believe you are my "friend". I think we get that even if our family and friends do not fully understand. LOL
Posted by: turambar at December 06, 2025 12:34 AM (Q0yOR)
People will touch other's lives and have no clue they did it, no matter who they are. That alone brings value.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 12:45 AM (snZF9)
*uncertain whether to read that in a Curley or Moe voice*
Posted by: why Miklos oughtta at December 06, 2025 12:45 AM (N7hqt)
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342 Posted by: turambar at December 06, 2025 12:34 AM
I agree with all you wrote. Thanks for posting it!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:39 AM (rdVOm
And I agree with what JQ Johnson wrote about turambar Johbson....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:45 AM (QGaXH)
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Imagine having the last name Fish...
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 12:39 AM (1lXzG)
Tell me about it...Abe Vigoda
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 06, 2025 12:48 AM (QGaXH)
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...Yes, I lurk but read every single day and night and have for a long time. This place is a home from the crazy out there in the weird wide web.
Posted by: turambar at December 06, 2025 12:43 AM (Q0yOR)
As you may find upthread, I've been going through this myself. I'm finding myself now in the most interesting period of my life. My relationship with God has never been more real. My wife and son are true partners in my life. I've been going through this in their full view - both good and bad - and I've found that I'm teaching my son more in how I act in adversity than anything that I could tell him. If I have one regret, it's that I wish I had gone through this epiphany two decades ago.
I'm praying right now for your situation, and I approach the Prayer Thread in the same way you do.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 06, 2025 12:49 AM (L5wrM)
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Jeepers, Bers! 1400 lights? On *one* tree? How tall is that tree?
I have a total of 375 lights. Includes 100 minis on the tree, 25 C6s around one window, and 50 C9s plus 200 minis across the deck.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 12:44 AM (rdVOm)
I want it to be seen from space. lol
Seriously, its 7 1/2 feet tall, and 4 1/2 foot wide at the bottom. At the bottom 1 string of lights will only make around 1 lap. I run the lights up and down the branches as I go around. Its a light eater, but I tried doing it with less lights one year and it just didn't look right. It takes around 7 strings of white, and 7 strings of colored lights.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 12:52 AM (snZF9)
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Christmas trees are like doggos-- every single one is *The Best Ever*
Congratulations on having successfully drinkorated!
Posted by: JQ
*drinks*
*sets Best Doggie Ever to tree decorating*
*GOOD DOGGIE!*
*gives Miss Dixie some Bourbon and a treat*
This will be THE BEST EVER
Posted by: Dr. Miklos Pangloss at December 06, 2025 12:53 AM (N7hqt)
Holiday colored three layer Jell shots can be done.
But I need some stuff.
Also short on these 2 ounce "souffle cups" as they are called if and when you remember to order
Posted by: Miklos does not do inventory at December 06, 2025 01:09 AM (N7hqt)
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I've been working on the "beer garden" area tonight. Needs colored lights & a Christmas tree, but I think it'll be ready for ClubONT... next weekend. Got to finish putting up the glass walls for winter.
tinyurl.com/3hew95bv
White lights are great, when you need basic illumination. Colored lights are for FUN.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:09 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 01:11 AM (1lXzG)
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For it is written-There is no yard work in winter. Seriously, its written. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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I *need to* move the riding mower & sweeper to a different area, and cover them with a tarp for winter!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:12 AM (rdVOm)
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Well I just did a quick count. 1 branch alone has 16 lights. And thats a mid branch, not a lower one. The lower one has 24-25 lights, so probably 12 of each color there. I'm sure I can gauge it with a star magnitude chart, but its really not insane. Its a big tree. Without that many lights if you step back and look at it it will have dark areas. I went through that one year when I tried to do it with 800 or 900 lights. The ornaments didn't even have the sparkle they normally do. Eh, just call me Thomas muthafuckin berserker Edison. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 01:13 AM (snZF9)
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Holiday colored three layer Jell shots can be done.
But I need some stuff.
Also short on these 2 ounce "souffle cups" as they are called if and when you remember to order
Posted by: Miklos does not do inventory
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No problemo, Miklos! On the list-- I'll pick 'em up when I go to restaurant supply in the morning.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:14 AM (rdVOm)
Also, I put bacon bits and peanut butter all over the tree.
Miss Dixie is a happy doggie
Posted by: Miklos already got a Waffle House gift card from Arleen at December 06, 2025 01:15 AM (N7hqt)
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Good job on your tree, Bers! I'll bet it's beautiful. Just teasing about the quantity of lights, haha. Full sized trees do need quite a few strands to look their best.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:17 AM (rdVOm)
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351 Hi folks, love you all, sorry for being so worthless and everything.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2025 11:48 PM (CHHv1)
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Horse shit. You are welcomed here with people who value you. Whoever put that notion in your head cast it and them out.
Come sit wit us by the fire and be comforted by the care of your brothers and sisters.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 06, 2025 01:18 AM (SZI4T)
In Hungary, December 5th is "Saint Miklos Day", when Saint Miklos brings the kiddies their gifts.
They might get, traditionally, an orange or such on Christmas Eve or Day, but mainly they are waiting now for Szent Miklos.
Posted by: Miklos is into the Christmas Spirits at December 06, 2025 01:21 AM (N7hqt)
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Santa always put an orange and/or a tangerine in our Christmas stockings, along with hard candies and mixed (in-shell) nuts-- plus small gifts like colored pens, card games, hair ties, or matchbox cars-- simple stuff.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:33 AM (rdVOm)
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It makes me sad, seeing how so many people want to believe Tucker Carlson says what he does because he's being paid by a foreign country, as opposed to believing THIS country shouldn't always be at war, killing people around the world.
If you aren't Christian, I guess this doesn't apply to you, but those who are, who do you think is closer to Christ's vision for this world: Someone who wants all war to stop, or someone who thinks a little more war might just fix the problems they perceive this world has.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2025 01:41 AM (/2KcO)
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Back! For I don't know how long. Power went off here about 10:10 PM. I drove around the 'hood, didn't see any sign of line crews working. Whatever blew, it's pretty local; affects me and the other two homes on this branch, and a farm a mile east of here. Further east, all is brightly lit.
Came back and fired up the generator. Computer room has pretty steady power, lights in main part of basement are flickering badly. One leg of the split 240 has a flaky connection, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 01:46 AM (npFr7)
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BurtTC, I'm pretty sure the final vision for this world *IS* one of war, death and destruction.
The Revelation lays it out in detail.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:47 AM (rdVOm)
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If you aren't Christian, I guess this doesn't apply to you, but those who are, who do you think is closer to Christ's vision for this world: Someone who wants all war to stop, or someone who thinks a little more war might just fix the problems they perceive this world has.
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"The Revelation of Jesus Christ"
might shed some light on the topic.
Posted by: Methos at December 06, 2025 01:48 AM (vSvIl)
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Driving back to Arizona tomorrow. Colorado is not for the timid.
Went to Silverton today, it's such a lovely town, but everything is closed! Too early for ski season, I was told.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2025 01:48 AM (WeJ8p)
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Welcome back, AOP. Nurse was here earlier, said her power went out too. Didn't see any more posts from her, so she might've just gone to bed...
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:49 AM (rdVOm)
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BurtTC, I'm pretty sure the final vision for this world *IS* one of war, death and destruction.
The Revelation lays it out in detail.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:47 AM (rdVOm)
Yes, I'm well aware there are many who believe they are doing God's work, by forcing war on the planet.
I think that is not God, who is commanding them to be so fully invested on the basis of thinking they are going to bring Christ back to the planet by killing people.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2025 01:51 AM (lGyAR)
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Good job on your tree, Bers! I'll bet it's beautiful. Just teasing about the quantity of lights, haha. Full sized trees do need quite a few strands to look their best.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:17 AM (rdVOm)
The funny thing is in *this* house I can go with a super tall tree in this room, but hell no. Yeah I really need to be running another 800 lights. Years ago when I renovated my inlaw's family room I converted it to a full cathedral ceiling with skylights. They thought they would be cute and get a 10 foot tree for a couple years. That didn't last, go figure. When I moved to this house my MIL, the "ham fairy" sees the family room here and says Ooooh you need to do a really tall tree. I said right, how come you don't do that anymore? She looks at me and says "you're still young", lol. It would be cool, but screw that. I have enough ornaments to do it, but I don't need a tree that takes 2500 lights, a ladder, and 5 days to decorate.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 01:53 AM (snZF9)
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I worry about Steven Crowder going to schools with his "Change my mind " tours. I don't want him to end up like poor Charlie Kirk.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 06, 2025 01:55 AM (Nx5jP)
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I think that is not God, who is commanding them to be so fully invested on the basis of thinking they are going to bring Christ back to the planet by killing people.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2025 01:51 AM (lGyAR)
No one actually thinks that.
This is just an evil smear you have asserted against people who don't share your cowardice fetish.
Posted by: Methos at December 06, 2025 01:57 AM (vSvIl)
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>>They thought they would be cute and get a 10 foot tree for a couple years.
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Yeah. My parents did that, too. High ceiling? Great! We'll get a bigger tree!!! The kids can climb the ladder for us!!!
It really *was* grand, when we were done. Mom was the happiest I'd ever seen her, in those days.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:58 AM (rdVOm)
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Welcome back, AOP. Nurse was here earlier, said her power went out too. Didn't see any more posts from her, so she might've just gone to bed...
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 01:49 AM (rdVOm)
Yeah. I don't know what caused the blackout. Strictly local. I suppose I should call it in, but I thought the utility had placed radio transmitters on selected poles to auto-report outages. They put some damned thing, with a cell antenna on it, on a pole down along my hedge line, this summer.
I should go outside and see if I can fix the loose connection on the other side of neutral. If power is restored, I can tell by the yard light coming on at the neighbor's place a mile south; it's very bright. And I did pull the main switch at my pole, so I am not energizing the line.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 01:58 AM (npFr7)
This is just an evil smear you have asserted against people who don't share your cowardice fetish.
Posted by: Methos at December 06, 2025 01:57 AM (vSvIl)
Yes they do. You're delusional if you think they don't.
Cowards are those who go on the internet and lie for their masters. Grow some balls, dude.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2025 02:01 AM (RkrlD)
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Yes they do. You're delusional if you think they don't.
Cowards are those who go on the internet and lie for their masters. Grow some balls, dude.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2025 02:01 AM (RkrlD)
You've asserted it. Prove it. Maybe start with me and Mike Huckabee, since you've claimed it's true of us.
I'm sure you're familiar with the rules, the testimony of two witnesses will do.
Posted by: Methos at December 06, 2025 02:06 AM (vSvIl)
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I suggest you re-read Revelations to see what actually happened is written about the end times.
The Four Horseman are not coming to give out candy and teddy bears. They each have a defined mission. Jesus Crist has a defined mission.
Bottom line, you have a choice. Jesus Crist or lucifer. Choose wisely.
Posted by: Z, no not him. A different Z at December 06, 2025 02:08 AM (iAcMN)
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Christ will return, regardless of the action (or inaction) of mankind.
Sure, there may be a few megalomaniacs who believe they can "bring about" The Return, but who are they and what shall we do about them?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:08 AM (rdVOm)
Jesus just called. He said to me, "I'm not coming back until the Buffalo Bills win the Super Bowl."
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 02:16 AM (FBdDh)
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But the real invasion is the backwards apostrophes.
Posted by: pjungwir at December 06, 2025 02:21 AM (noE7F)
396 Jesus just called again and said, "Oh, I almost forgot, I'm not returning before they get rid of Daylight Savings. I ain't dealing with that shit."
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 02:21 AM (FBdDh)
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Back again. Power still out. Carburetor was trying to fall off the generator; tightened some screws, and it quit, but I was able to restart it. Basement lights still flickering. I have a little Diesel genset sitting right there, but I don't know if I have any fuel for it. Not going to try to siphon Diesel out of the tractor when it's 3 F out there, and snowing. Moderate breeze, but no way it's a blizzard. This should not be a weather-related outage. Power company is aware, but cannot give an estimate of when it will get fixed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 02:22 AM (npFr7)
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:30 AM (rdVOm)
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Dang, AOP. Hope you have a good heat source!
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:30 AM (rdVOm)
As long as the generator runs, my furnace will put out. I have another, smaller gas genset, and the aforementioned Diesel job, which I know will run if it has fuel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 02:36 AM (npFr7)
Jesus just called. He said to me, "I'm not coming back until the Buffalo Bills win the Super Bowl."
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 02:16 AM (FBdDh)
No one should miss that party.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 06, 2025 02:41 AM (pIfcn)
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Good. Stay warm, AOP. Hope power is restored soon.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:41 AM (rdVOm)
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Happy St Nicholas Day. I never knew it was a thing before MiladyJo of Catholic heritage put goodies in my shoe for the morning. Just like a Christmas stocking, only stinkier.
🎅👞🍬🍎
https://youtu.be/-xRkRMIwPOA
G'nite, y'all. Maybe meet for coffee & prayers mañana.
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Good. Stay warm, AOP. Hope power is restored soon.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:41 AM (rdVOm)
Cozy enough for now. If the genset quits again, I will see if I can scare up some Diesel fuel, and try the Diesel job. It would not be impossible to siphon fuel out of the tractor. The tank is up high, so I could set a can on the ground, stick clear hose in the the tank, and suck on it until I see fuel appear around the bend, and drop the hose into the can.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 02:46 AM (npFr7)
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Temp has been rising, here. Now 57F. Has been 20s-40s for over a week. A bit early for that cold, really.
Can finally turn down the pellet feed-rate again, yay.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 02:53 AM (rdVOm)
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Hey Horde, just stopping by to say good night. There was a small holiday get together on the street tonight. It was fun and I had a good time but I must sleep. Catch you at the club tomorrow night.
{{{BC}}}}, consider yourself hugged and hang in there.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2025 03:03 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 03:03 AM (rdVOm)
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Jesus just called again and said, "Oh, I almost forgot, I'm not returning before they get rid of Daylight Savings. I ain't dealing with that shit."
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 06, 2025 02:21 AM (FBdDh)
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 03:13 AM (rdVOm)
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Back again. Power is back on. Saw the yard light glimming at the neighbor's place south of here, and went out, shut down the generator (the carb had not worked loose again!), unplugged the death cord, and went to the pole and threw the switch back to "on". House lit up. Dragged genset into shop, turned off fuel valve, closed up shop.
And I am going to close up here, too, since it's 1:15 A.M. And all's well. Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2025 03:15 AM (npFr7)
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2025 03:18 AM (rdVOm)
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If you aren't Christian, I guess this doesn't apply to you, but those who are, who do you think is closer to Christ's vision for this world: Someone who wants all war to stop, or someone who thinks a little more war might just fix the problems they perceive this world has.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2025 01:41 AM (/2KcO)
I don't for a minute think Christ thought we would ever have peace on earth. Peace be with you is not so much a wish for no war but rather an inner peace that one can have by belief. He knows we are a bunch of fuckups, but he came to forgive that, if we at least try.
Those who think starting wars in the Holy Land will bring Armageddon apparently didn't read the part about how you will not know the day or hour. He will come when He's damned good and ready, and there's not a thing anyone can do to change that.
What is more important: The end of the World, or Your end? Get right with God, and then do it again, because you will fuck up again, and He is there to make it right.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2025 03:19 AM (6Bc88)
417It makes me sad, seeing how so many people want to believe Tucker Carlson says what he does because he's being paid by a foreign country, as opposed to believing THIS country shouldn't always be at war, killing people around the world.
If you aren't Christian, I guess this doesn't apply to you, but those who are, who do you think is closer to Christ's vision for this world: Someone who wants all war to stop, or someone who thinks a little more war might just fix the problems they perceive this world has.
What do you think is more along the lines of Christ's vision, luxuriating in a 5 star hotel, with hot and cold running hookers on tap, plus great whiskey and millions of dollars in your pocket, or spouting the filth of the goat fuckers, and supporting his father's people against Satan's minions?
War? War is the default condition of man since the snake offered an apple. The only question is what are you going to fight for:
Good?
Or Evil?
Now, as a Christian, look me in the eye and tell me that Tucker sucking up to those who demand submission to Allah (not God), are the ones who are the problem.
You may want to be a dhimmi in service of an imagined "peace", but I don't.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 06, 2025 03:40 AM (df/te)
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Ronald Reagan:
"We cannot buy our security, our freedom from the threat of the bomb by committing an immorality so great as saying to a billion human beings now enslaved behind the Iron Curtain, "Give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skins, we're willing to make a deal with your slave masters." Alexander Hamilton said, "A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one." Now let's set the record straight. There's no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there's only one guaranteed way you can have peace - and you can have it in the next second - surrender."
Posted by: Weirddave at December 06, 2025 03:41 AM (df/te)
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What I think is closest to Christ's vision is to stand up against the forces of evil. YMMV.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 06, 2025 03:44 AM (df/te)
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"...there's only one guaranteed way you can have peace - and you can have it in the next second - surrender."
Posted by: Weirddave at December 06, 2025 03:41 AM (df/te)
This should be axiomatic, yet the last few generations in the West have been so spoiled that they have lost sight of the reality of the human condition.
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What I think is closest to Christ's vision is to stand up against the forces of evil. YMMV.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 06, 2025 03:44 AM (df/te)
Pretty much. The way I see it, muslims are killing Christians and Jews around the world like it was free. Sooo...I either follow the example of a dude that walked around in a sheet and sandals and got his ass nailed to a tree, or I follow the school of John Moses Browning and cure the motherfuckers of their lead deficiency. Christ's teachings are nice, but sometimes turning the other cheek is suicide. It isn't helping the christians in Africa, thats for sure.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2025 03:54 AM (snZF9)
This is just an evil smear you have asserted against people who don't share your cowardice fetish.
Posted by: Methos at December 06, 2025 01:57 AM (vSvIl)
Ultimately, nothing means shit to BurtTC. He just wants to listen to “Imagine” 25/8 and believes the one true path to peace is simply being a whiny little pussy. Nothing could be further from the truth. You MUST prepare for war to ensure peace, and it sucks, but there it is.
BurtTC wants to live in fantasy land and put people on blast who do not share his delusions.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 06, 2025 04:14 AM (6KcYW)
Posted by: Cowardly lion at December 05, 2025 07:29 PM (pkeXY)
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If it scandalized the barnyard, my first thought was that penguins had to be involved, but fortunately, this is no the case, at least in this instance.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2025 07:29 PM (0sNs1)
Not gay really, just a subculture. Kind of like model builders (or a lot like model builders.)*
*gentle dig at Anna Puma
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 07:36 PM (zZu0s)
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Another great week of posts. Thanks Ace and Cobs.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 07:37 PM (jc0TO)
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My favorite part in Blackhawk Down is when the Somalis hit the Helicopters with an RPG..
Me, Ilam, and all Somali friends all cheer loudly !!!!
Posted by: Timmy Walz at December 05, 2025 07:38 PM (J9q9v)
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thank you and thanks on behalf of the cobs, toby.
You guys did a good week of commenting, without reading the posts.
Posted by: ace at December 05, 2025 07:38 PM (1wjle)
21 RV is almost loaded for Her Majesty and The Big Dummy's trip to Orlando for the AKC National Championship show next Saturday. Plus all-breed shows Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday and a Hound Group show the Sunday after. And AKC delegate meetings.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2025 07:38 PM (tgvbd)
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That's why dad tiger went out for a gallon of milk and never came back.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 07:39 PM (YwEeS)
23
Hubby bought a space heater for his work space but the house thermostat is still set at 64
*angrily puts on fleece sweater over sweatshirt and a knitted cap
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 07:40 PM (eZ5tL)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 07:43 PM (Ia/+0)
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Hubby bought a space heater for his work space but the house thermostat is still set at 64
*angrily puts on fleece sweater over sweatshirt and a knitted cap
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
How do you put up with that? My thermostat is always on 72 during the winter. 64 is like having the air conditioner on to me.
Posted by: Tuna at December 05, 2025 07:44 PM (lJ0H4)
Beautiful sunset happening. So many folks taking pictures…. We live here and still can’t get enough.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 07:45 PM (VTZ1R)
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Evening, Ace, and Cafe patrons! Enjoying a bowl of beef stew I snuck out of the crockpot an hour or so early. Still tasty. I was outside, hitching up a trailer in 8 degree weather. I needed a warmup.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 07:46 PM (npFr7)
30Hubby bought a space heater for his work space but the house thermostat is still set at 64
*angrily puts on fleece sweater over sweatshirt and a knitted cap
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 07:40 PM
As it says in the good book, "Many are cold, but few are frozen."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2025 07:47 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2025 07:51 PM (0CU3H)
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Few things are better than snuggling into a down comforter on a winters night.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 07:51 PM (sDNVV)
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thank you and thanks on behalf of the cobs, toby.
You guys did a good week of commenting, without reading the posts.
Posted by: ace at December 05, 2025 07:38 PM (1wjle)
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Christmas bonuses for everyone! Yay!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 07:55 PM (znREB)
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This be yeer Holyday display in a tr e city center will without a black baby Jesus. Instead it will be reused with asine that be says...Ice was here... This whey we can show the world we be hate Trump two !!!
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 05, 2025 07:55 PM (0IwHf)
49 No more cold feets.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 07:54 PM
I hear Sydney might be on the market.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2025 07:56 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2025 07:56 PM (fd80v)
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A lot of global warming in that Iceland video. How come it never gets warm there? I landed there once around Memorial Day and it was snow/sleeting and around 32 degrees.
Posted by: Andreas Andreassen at December 05, 2025 07:56 PM (oftw2)
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I feel trapped. Jasmine is using me for her blanket. Allie is using my book for a pillow. What to do, what to do...
53I feel trapped. Jasmine is using me for her blanket. Allie is using my book for a pillow. What to do, what to do...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 05, 2025 07:56 PM
C'mon, Perfessor, man up! Sit back, look at the ceiling, and think of Dostoevsky.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2025 07:58 PM (0sNs1)
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48 This be yeer Holyday display in a tr e city center will without a black baby Jesus. Instead it will be reused with asine that be says...Ice was here... This whey we can show the world we be hate Trump two !!!
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt
That's the Christmas spirit, Mary!
Posted by: Fellow Traveler (FART Tube Fan) at December 05, 2025 07:59 PM (oftw2)
54 48 This be yeer Holyday display in a tr e city center will without a black baby Jesus. Instead it will be replced with a sine that be says...Ice was here... This whey we can show the world we be hate Trump two !!!
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt
Posted by: Jackson at December 05, 2025 08:02 PM (J9q9v)
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How do you put up with that? My thermostat is always on 72 during the winter. 64 is like having the air conditioner on to me.
Posted by: Tuna at December 05, 2025 07:44 PM (lJ0H4)
I keep mine on 69 . Summer it's on 74.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 08:02 PM (KDPiq)
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Bedding choices sometimes depend upon sleepwear choices.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:03 PM (sDNVV)
Posted by: toby928(c) sucks up at December 05, 2025 08:04 PM (jc0TO)
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Nazi penguin sex spies in America, thru the use of their innate polymorphic perversity, obtained top secret information from compromised sources that was quickly funneled to the Rosenbergs for dissemination to the Russians. These source were sometimes know by the acronym "PACO", which stands for "Penguin Activated Comrade Operater". PACO assets were kept in line in the usual manner, assisted by carefully maintained catalogs of photographs and films of their clandestine midnight mephitic meetups.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 08:04 PM (vFG9F)
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Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:03 PM (sDNVV)
80? Do you keep ceiling fans running?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 08:05 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:12 PM (sDNVV)
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Wellness check -- anyone seen halfhourshower lately? He was at he MoMe in October but none of the 3 D's have seen him around in the past month or so.
Posted by: Doof
Stateless has been absent for quite a while also. Hope he's ok.
Posted by: Tuna at December 05, 2025 08:12 PM (lJ0H4)
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147 Why would you make fake bombs with real gunpowder?
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 07:15 PM (vFG9F)
Because you want them to be found by the dogs?
Posted by: ... at December 05, 2025 08:12 PM (E0p3T)
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Beautiful sunset photo! I hate that I saw it, and I instantly thought AI. Humans ARE capable of great art without machines, though I'm sure Lightroom or Photoshop enhanced it a bit.
I'm seeing writers talk about how their actual written work is getting flagged as AI. Like, it's so good it had to be synthetic. It's causing some problems as people try to clear their names and reputations, especially at colleges.
Posted by: LizLem at December 05, 2025 08:14 PM (Eng1Z)
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Just got back from our town's Christmas tree lighting. There was a furry.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 05, 2025 08:15 PM (f0sNM)
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Because you want them to be found by the dogs?
Posted by: ... at December 05, 2025 08:12 PM (E0p3T)
Makes sense. Another reason I thought it was one of the alphabets that planted them to further the plan to frame the J6ers.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 08:15 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2025 07:23 PM (6Bc8
Ash is NOT a jetliner's best friend...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 08:17 PM (ynpvh)
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Electric blankets are great when you're chilled, just want to *thaw out* & don't want to mess with the thermostat.
When hubby first got sick (and lost too much weight), I couldn't get this house warm enough for him, poor guy. Bought him an electric blanket & he snuggled under for about 2 weeks; I swear he only got out of bed to use the bathroom!
I use it to pre-heat the bed before I turn in on coldest nights, then switch it off or I'll get too warm.
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 08:17 PM (rdVOm)
82Congress votes to allow drug boats to continue their delivery service.
The people who don't know what a woman is- but DO know what a white bomber looks like- tell me that those are mostly peaceful fishing boats.
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2025 08:17 PM (XFXIk)
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>>> You guys did a good week of commenting, without reading the posts. Posted by: ace at December 05, 2025 07:38 PM (1wjle)
I read them! But sometimes what you or other cobs/commenters have written on it is so spot on, it's like well how can I top that? Do I just put "Mega dittos, Ace?"
So instead I post about other random crap in the news that has intrigued or enraged me. Or try to add a funny.
Posted by: LizLem at December 05, 2025 08:17 PM (Eng1Z)
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I've decided I will now just nerd out on 3D Printing, Day Trading, programming projects and working on cars and pretty much check out of the larger culture.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2025 08:18 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2025 08:20 PM (fd80v)
There was a jetliner that, during it's long flight, started having engine troubles. A faint aura surrounded the engines and the front window became opaque. Yeah, the flew through the ash of a huge eruption and didn't realize it. Their landing was...exciting.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 08:22 PM (ynpvh)
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I will match my military record against Hegseth anytime !!!
I was a Sgt Major in the Minnesota Salvation Army and what was Hegseth ????
You know I was one of the guys ringing the bells at Christmas to help Somali children of color in Minnesota...
Posted by: Timmy Walz at December 05, 2025 08:23 PM (J9q9v)
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The front window went from clear to translucent, not opaque. My bad.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 08:23 PM (ynpvh)
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94 I will match my military record against Hegseth anytime !!!
I was a Sgt Major in the Minnesota Salvation Army and what was Hegseth ????
You know I was one of the guys ringing the bells at Christmas to help Somali children of color in Minnesota...
Posted by: Timmy Walz at December 05, 2025 08:23 PM (J9q9v)
I thought you helped yourself to the little boys...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 08:23 PM (ynpvh)
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I've decided I will now just nerd out on 3D Printing, Day Trading, programming projects and working on cars and pretty much check out of the larger culture.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2025 08:18 PM (XV/Pl)
I'm not checking out but I've always just followed the Serenity prayer.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference,"
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 08:23 PM (KDPiq)
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Got a warm kitty sitting in my lap right now!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
are Toy Train sets gay & lame, like Barber Shop Quartets?
Or just kinda lame, like ham radios?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 07:30 PM
Dunno. But they're like bewbs. Meant for the kids, but somehow dad spends the most time playing with them.
It's now a bewb thread. You're welcome.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2025 08:24 PM (Wnv9h)
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91 Emmie makes the best hot toddies.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:21 PM
Rated 110% true fact.
Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2025 08:24 PM (LHPAg)
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90 80
'Ash is NOT a jetliner's best friend...'
It chokes the engines.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2025 08:20 PM (fd80v)
And not in a good way.
Posted by: Zombie David Carradine at December 05, 2025 08:26 PM (ynpvh)
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61 Summer is 80
Winter is 70
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:03 PM (sDNVV)
That’s just about what we do. I should say, what the wife insists on. She’s a Louisiana girl, the more hot and humid it is, the more it feels like home to her.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2025 08:26 PM (c7Ygk)
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You know how you can tell the difference between a mock tiger charge and a real tiger charge?
Whether or not you get eaten at the end.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 05, 2025 08:26 PM (syz1S)
104Holy crap! Wind kicked up BIG TIME! Batten down the hatches! It’s blowing stink.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 08:16 PM
Single digit cold out here. And in New England fashion, having vodka straight from the freezer.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2025 08:26 PM (Wnv9h)
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104 Holy crap! Wind kicked up BIG TIME! Batten down the hatches! It’s blowing stink.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 08:16 PM
Single digit cold out here. And in New England fashion, having vodka straight from the freezer.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2025 08:26 PM (Wnv9h)
Got into the low 40s here this morning. The heater turned on! At least it warmed up into the low 70s...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 08:29 PM (ynpvh)
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Working outside in the heat all day, 80 feels cold .
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:29 PM (sDNVV)
I have not seen alteria around either.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:12 PM (sDNVV)
Thanks for trying!!
Posted by: Doof at December 05, 2025 08:29 PM (QMAsf)
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Hubby bought a space heater for his work space but the house thermostat is still set at 64
*angrily puts on fleece sweater over sweatshirt and a knitted cap
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 07:40 PM (eZ5tL)
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So you're saying he's lowering overall heating costs by using a space heater where he spends most of his time.
109 Single digit cold out here. And in New England fashion, having vodka straight from the freezer.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2025 08:26 PM (Wnv9h)
Cold and a little bit of snow on the ground here. Margaritas and chillin with the TV and Christmas tree for me and my lady tonight
Posted by: Doof at December 05, 2025 08:31 PM (QMAsf)
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Got into the low 40s here this morning. The heater turned on! At least it warmed up into the low 70s...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 08:29 PM (ynpvh)
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Single digits this morning, negative with wind chill. A month early for this sort of thing, but its warming up. In the mid-20s now.
That opens the path for snow. Michigan never gets serious snow when it's single digits.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 05, 2025 07:23 PM (6Bc8
Ash is NOT a jetliner's best friend...
I kinda thought it might be AI, for that very reason. I can't imagine why an airliner would fly that close to an eruption.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 08:33 PM (Riz8t)
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Cold and a little bit of snow on the ground here. Margaritas and chillin with the TV and Christmas tree for me and my lady tonight
Posted by: Doof at December 05, 2025 08:31 PM
*raises glass*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2025 08:33 PM (Wnv9h)
116 Doof, Good for you!!! Enjoy.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:33 PM (sDNVV)
Thank you, my friend!
*raises glass toward Texas*
Posted by: Doof at December 05, 2025 08:34 PM (QMAsf)
It chokes the engines.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2025 08:20 PM (fd80v)
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Some years ago a big eruption in Iceland caused major disruption for airlines and the rotator aircraft out of Dover.
Subsequently, that's now a planning factor - the air link can be severed without warning.
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Thanks, Doof-- (/sarc) for leaving *this* on the bar for me last night!
tinyurl.com/3fa4sxsb
I've gotten *this far* with that project:
tinyurl.com/2p9f5wk
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 08:35 PM (rdVOm)
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I kinda thought it might be AI, for that very reason. I can't imagine why an airliner would fly that close to an eruption.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 08:33 PM (Riz8t)
Probably no big deal if you are well upwind of the ash plume.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 08:36 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 08:36 PM (sDNVV)
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Holy cow...
Had me a Newfoundland once...awesome dog!
As long as you didn't mind slobber all over the walls🤪!
Loved that boy...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 05, 2025 08:36 PM (3pxDZ)
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Chilly in Babylon DC. Its 30 more or less, and had a bit of snow today. Just enough to cover the ground but easy enough to brush off the car. No issues driving into work other than slow, Friday beltway traffic. One of my co-workers cat had a stroke so he won't be in tonight. Going to have to put the ole kittuh down, sadly. Poor kittuh. He's pretty shook up. Hard to lose a pet.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 05, 2025 08:37 PM (YoT4f)
123 Thanks, Doof-- (/sarc) for leaving *this* on the bar for me last night!
tinyurl.com/3fa4sxsb
I've gotten *this far* with that project:
tinyurl.com/2p9f5wk
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 08:35 PM (rdVOm)
Hahaha! Keep going!
Fortunately for you, we have an uncomplicated Drink of the Night for Saturday this week.
Posted by: Doof at December 05, 2025 08:40 PM (QMAsf)
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When I did live in NY I always planned on making a Summer room if I ever bought a house. I'd take the smallest bedroom and cover the floor with sand , project an ocean beach scene with gentle waves on an entire wall and hang a hammock . A couple of sun lamps would complete the room. I loved the first month of winter and dreaded the next 3 months.
Now back South I just converted two of my bedrooms to a movie theater and an art studio.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 08:42 PM (KDPiq)
Fortunately for you, we have an uncomplicated Drink of the Night for Saturday this week.
Posted by: Doof
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*smiles, with gritted teeth*
Thanks, buddy!
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 08:43 PM (rdVOm)
126
For a bunch of soi disant elites, they sure are dumb:
The EU woke Stasi commissars are about to understand the full meaning of the “Streisand Effect”
(A list of 13 European countries follows in which X is the top source of news.)
https://is.gd/1Qq41X
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 08:44 PM (Riz8t)
127
It really is eerie how much Ayn Rand has been right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 08:46 PM (zZu0s)
128
This is why (some!) people learned to carefully put their Christmas lights back into the original packaging:
tinyurl.com/ms2mymv4
Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2025 08:48 PM (rdVOm)
129
I’ve read the comments. Don’t understand them. But then again, I’m a retard.
Posted by: Timmy Walz at December 05, 2025 08:51 PM (ZTJjv)
130
It almost feels like ONT....
See you guys upstairs...I'll be, as usual, sitting over there at my favorite wobbly table...🤪
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 05, 2025 08:52 PM (3pxDZ)
131
The EU woke Stasi commissars are about to understand the full meaning of the “Streisand Effect”
(A list of 13 European countries follows in which X is the top source of news.)
https://is.gd/1Qq41X
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 08:44 PM (Riz8t)
Kind of scary, ain't it, when a website that was initially founded as an online version of CB Channel 19 becomes regarded as a legitimate source of news.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 08:52 PM (npFr7)
132
News you can use: storebought chocolate milk makes fabulous hot chocolate if you steam it.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 05, 2025 08:52 PM (P1Kdk)
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132 News you can use: storebought chocolate milk makes fabulous hot chocolate if you steam it.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 05, 2025 08:52 PM (P1Kdk)
This outrage cannot stand!
Posted by: Swiss Miss at December 05, 2025 08:54 PM (ZTJjv)
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127 It really is eerie how much Ayn Rand has been right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 08:46 PM (zZu0s)
And George Orwell.
Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2025 08:57 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)
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In somewhat ignored news: NASA responds after Russia accidentally blew up its only way to send astronauts to space. The accident prevents Russia from sending anyone into space
NASA has finally issued a response after Russia's space operations came to a catastrophic halt last week, as the Baikonur Cosmodrome spaceport was 'blown up' – albeit accidentally – following the launch of the Soyuz MS-28 spacecraft last week.
https://tinyurl.com/msayyvwd
The only working orbital system at the moment is SpaceX
Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2025 08:59 PM (rbvCR)
137
Nice soft flannel sheets and an electric blanket for me.
Posted by: Tuna
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I won't use an electric blanket. We have a mattress cover that has electric heating elements that we turn on a half hour before we go to bed so we don't climb into cold sheets, but it gets turned off when I'm in bed.
I've found that I feel very tired and listless in the morning if I sleep.with an electric blanket. It is probably due to the heat making it difficult for my body to regulate my temperature, but I have an alternative theory.
Each one of those wires next to your body is creating a small magnetic field at 60 HZ. Red blood cells are hemoglobin, which contains iron. Are the red blood cells on the surface of your body vibrating at 60 HZ if you're under an electric blanket? Can't be good.
I'll remove my tinfoil hat and leave now.
Posted by: buddhaha at December 05, 2025 09:00 PM (E2vqx)
138
124 When I did live in NY I always planned on making a Summer room if I ever bought a house. I'd take the smallest bedroom and cover the floor with sand , project an ocean beach scene with gentle waves on an entire wall and hang a hammock . A couple of sun lamps would complete the room. I loved the first month of winter and dreaded the next 3 months.
Now back South I just converted two of my bedrooms to a movie theater and an art studio.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 05, 2025 08:42 PM (KDPiq)
When I miss Florida I play Florida Room by Donald Fagan.
Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2025 09:02 PM (LHPAg)
139134 127 It really is eerie how much Ayn Rand has been right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 08:46 PM (zZu0s)
And George Orwell.
Posted by: Eromero
And Neil Postman.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 05, 2025 09:03 PM (YoT4f)
140
Are the red blood cells on the surface of your body vibrating at 60 HZ if you're under an electric blanket? Can't be good.
I'll remove my tinfoil hat and leave now.
Posted by: buddhaha at December 05, 2025 09:00 PM (E2vqx)
Probably not. Depends upon the oxidation state of the iron atom in the hemoglobin molecule. Does blood get attracted to a magnet?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 09:03 PM (npFr7)
Remember how, after losing, Jack Kemp couldn't keep his mouth shut in 1997 and he'd say stupid things as if the Voters didn't reject him in the last election?
You don't remember that because it never happened. Why can't retard walz be like Jack Kemp?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 09:04 PM (cPNKV)
142
[ai] It really is eerie how much Ayn Rand has been right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 08:46 PM (zZu0s)
except she really needed an editor. She was dead wrong, there.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2025 09:07 PM (rbvCR)
143
I found this thermal underwear that has a fleece lining. Really comfy and warm. Thermajohns(?) I like them.
Not as warm as a wool sweater. Fucking hell, I want this:
https://www.norskwear.com/
product-page/sbwc-g
My sister got one for my dad a few Christmas ago. So warm.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 09:08 PM (zZu0s)
144
I am not AI! I like to think I make all sorts of innovative mistakes on my own, thank you very much!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 09:10 PM (zZu0s)
145
The top photo? I would...
tell her of the waters of my home world...
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 09:12 PM (XuXeR)
146
144 I am not AI! I like to think I make all sorts of innovative mistakes on my own, thank you very much!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 09:10 PM (zZu0s)
Indeed. Real dems prove that real "intelligence" is dumber than "artificial" intelligence...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:12 PM (ynpvh)
Please be very careful with heated blankets and heating pads.
Deep tissue burns are awful. And they don’t develop like surface burns. They are nefarious. You don’t know you’re damaging your tissue until it is too late.
Use a timer. Use the lowest setting.
DO NOT LEAVE IT ON ALL NIGHT.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 09:13 PM (mT+6a)
148
145 The top photo? I would...
tell her of the waters of my home world...
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 09:12 PM (XuXeR)
Doesn't work if your home world is Arrakis...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:13 PM (ynpvh)
149
Indeed. Real dems prove that real "intelligence" is dumber than "artificial" intelligence...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:12 PM (ynpvh)
That's right!
-Col Mustard
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 09:13 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 09:13 PM (XuXeR)
151
Evenin', y'all. Here's something I just went through on my and MiladyJo's Win11 laptops. Maybe you might need it?
10 Windows Settings You MUST Disable NOW (2025 UPDATE) [uploaded 2 weeks ago]
https://youtu.be/MMtJXs3rbjs
I didn't need to do all of these, but there were a couple.
Win11 sucks much less when you turn off all the spyware and automatic BS. Yeah, it's still Gatesware, but like our Daisy the half-feral Malinois, it can behave if you use the leash and shock collar. Mostly.
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 09:21 PM (XuXeR)
157 Funny how retard walz doesn't go "hunting" anymore. Or wear plaid shirts.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 09:22 PM (cPNKV)
158
Earth’s magnetic field: about 0.5 gauss.
Fridge magnet: about 100 gauss.
MRI machine up to 10,000 gauss.
Standard neutron star: about 10¹² gauss.
Magnetar: 10¹⁴ to > 10¹⁵ gauss (stongest magnetic field in the known universe)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:23 PM (ynpvh)
Just wear your red MAGA hat. Lefty progtards hate that.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 09:23 PM (QVmho)
160
157
Funny how retard walz doesn't go "hunting" anymore. Or wear plaid shirts.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 09:22 PM (cPNKV)
Only if he's playing lumberjack with the boys...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:24 PM (ynpvh)
161
Geraldo Rivers catapulted to fame and fortune on the backs of profoundly retarded folk in Willowbrook on Staten Island. Maybe Walz is trying to do the same thing.
Posted by: Eyewitless News at December 05, 2025 09:24 PM (oftw2)
162
161 Geraldo Rivers catapulted to fame and fortune on the backs of profoundly retarded folk in Willowbrook on Staten Island. Maybe Walz is trying to do the same thing.
Posted by: Eyewitless News at December 05, 2025 09:24 PM (oftw2)
So lifting himself up by his own bootstraps?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:25 PM (ynpvh)
Jane Fonda Denounces Netflix-WBD Deal as a ‘Constitutional Crisis’ That Could Destroy Hollywood
_The Wrap
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 09:26 PM (SZI4T)
16564 Nazi penguin sex spies in America, thru the use of their innate polymorphic perversity, obtained top secret information from compromised sources that was quickly funneled to the Rosenbergs for dissemination to the Russians. These source were sometimes know by the acronym "PACO", which stands for "Penguin Activated Comrade Operater". - fd
Very cunning, these "Paquistas". Quite an extraordinary conspiracy yarn; I believe the only participants you left out were the KKK, the Trilateral Commission and the Rosicrucians.
Libelous, of course. You'll be hearing from my Rechtsanwalt. Er, lawyer, that is to say.
Huffs on monocle, wipes it with bat-wing handkerchief and pops it back over his right eye
Posted by: Paco at December 05, 2025 09:29 PM (mADJX)
166
Jane Fonda Denounces Netflix-WBD Deal as a ‘Constitutional Crisis’ That Could Destroy Hollywood
_The Wrap
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 09:26 PM (SZI4T)
If she's agin' it, I'm for it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 09:31 PM (npFr7)
167
Just because politicians say something stupid doesn't necessarily mean they're stupid. They're telling people stupid enough to believe them what they want to hear..
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2025 09:31 PM (Q+gd/)
168
SpaceX is preparing to sell insider shares in a transaction...
-company’s latest tender offer could value SpaceX at as much as $800 billion (speculation)
SpaceX could pursue an initial public offering as soon as late next year, one person said.
_Bloomberg
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If he goes public the Board of Directors will manage SpaceX.
He can't live with that.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 09:33 PM (SZI4T)
169
167 Just because politicians say something stupid doesn't necessarily mean they're stupid. They're telling people stupid enough to believe them what they want to hear..
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2025 09:31 PM (Q+gd/)
That is true...but there are some real retards:
Jasmine Crockett
Sheila Jackson Lee
...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:33 PM (ynpvh)
170
Cute with the duck.
Lam Leung Tim, better known as LT Lam, who has died aged 101, was a Hong Kong industrialist Who created the little yellow duck.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 09:35 PM (2WIwB)
171
It does bother me that all entertainment is being concentrated in fewer hands. I'd be all right with that if I didnt know how jealously they guard against outsiders and upstart.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 09:36 PM (zZu0s)
172Jane Fonda Denounces Netflix-WBD Deal as a ‘Constitutional Crisis’ That Could Destroy Hollywood
Lefties really do use Constitutional/Unconstitutional and Democratic/Fascist as mindless synonyms for "Stuff I like / Stuff I Don't Like."
Posted by: Oddbob at December 05, 2025 09:38 PM (3nLb4)
173
D Vance@JDVance . Dec 4
Rumors swirling that the EU commission will fine X hundreds of millions of dollars for not engaging in censorship. The EU should be supporting free speech not attacking American companies over garbage.
@cb_doge . 5h
𝕏 is now the #1 news app in:
UK Germany Italy Spain Switzerland Netherlands Greece Austria Poland Ireland Hungary Finland Romania
People across Europe trust 𝕏 as the best source of truth
Elon Musk@elonmusk . 3h
The EU woke Stasi commissars are about to understand the full meaning of the “Streisand Effect”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 09:39 PM (SZI4T)
174
Does blood get attracted to a magnet"
No. Variety of reasons...
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 09:13 PM (XuXeR) ----------
Although, if in a strong enough magnetic field, polar molecules do fun things...I mean like Magnetar-level magnetic fields...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 09:17 PM (ynpvh)
~~~~~
Whoa. Stay away from MRI machines!
Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2025 09:40 PM (3ImbR)
175
It does bother me that all entertainment is being concentrated in fewer hands. I'd be all right with that if I didnt know how jealously they guard against outsiders and upstart.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 09:36 PM (zZu0s)
I say they are in the same position as the Buggy Whip and Kerosene Lamp Consortium would have been. "Hollywood" is dead, it just doesn't know it yet.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 05, 2025 09:41 PM (TR4+2)
Hey, brother. We got MG Gibson (cdr for gold dome execution) to be our guest speaker at our St. Barbara dinner in March. I already have 330 registered guests, and may have to shut down registration when I max out the venue at 400 heads. 83 total awardees, 8 of them are Ancients. ADA has 63, FA has 20. 3 of the ancients are FA.
It's scary. LTG Lozano knows my first name, and LTG Karbler is ragging on me to get his good side in the photos this year. My buddy, told Karbler he didn't have a good side. Fucker laughed, and bought us all three a beer.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 09:45 PM (QVmho)
Jane Fonda Denounces Netflix-WBD Deal as a ‘Constitutional Crisis’ That Could Destroy Hollywood
_The Wrap
Posted by: Braenyard
Oh. Well, I love it then!! LOL!!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 05, 2025 09:51 PM (YoT4f)
181
Ameragottit was in Lord of Rings, daughter of Hurin and Melian.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 09:51 PM (g47mK)
182
Ro Khanna gets credit for engaging with Vance rather than just calling him a fascist or whatever.
But he's wrong:
x.com/DanReich/status/1997074429948711170
The small movie theatre is dead. Alamo-Drafthouse dine-in theatres might still work, and IMAX; but the old 1930s model does not work for the 2020s.
What might work better is to disassociate movie release from movie display.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2025 09:51 PM (gKWVE)
183
I'd be outraged by the Warner-Netflix merger, but I already died from Net Neutrality.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 05, 2025 09:54 PM (TR4+2)
184
Bif!
Sounds like a great event coming together. I wish I could be there!
But I gotta say, all my bosses had a good side. For some of them it was their backsides.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 09:54 PM (2WIwB)
"BREAKING: Elon Musk confirms that a large portion of Nick Fuentes’ audience and engagement is coming from the Middle East and Pakistan.
No surprise. Who the fuck in the US of A would care what a fagghy dork from Berwyn (the jokes write themselves) has to say ?
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 09:54 PM (g47mK)
186
172 Jane Fonda Denounces Netflix-WBD Deal as a ‘Constitutional Crisis’ That Could Destroy Hollywood
Lefties really do use Constitutional/Unconstitutional and Democratic/Fascist as mindless synonyms for "Stuff I like / Stuff I Don't Like."
Posted by: Oddbob at December 05, 2025 09:38 PM (3nLb4)
Only time I agree with her. It is a monopoly. #1 streamer buying the #3 streamer.
Netflix doesn’t release its content into theaters, and the goal is to kill the entire movie theater business in favor of streaming.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025 09:55 PM (y171U)
187
Now they just need to see who is banging Tucker Carlson's network.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 09:55 PM (g47mK)
You get to Austin, I'll keep you posted on future events. Love to meet you in people space.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 09:57 PM (QVmho)
189
You get to Austin, I'll keep you posted on future events. Love to meet you in people space.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 09:57 PM (QVmho)
Count on it!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 09:58 PM (2WIwB)
190
I'm deeply concerned that Trump has abandoned Americans in favor of a venomous coalition of globalists.
Make Arabia Great Again, not Make Israel Great Again!
Posted by: Concerned Conservative Pakistani at December 05, 2025 09:58 PM (sf4IA)
191
Dollars to Qatari riyal that Carlson's "engagment" is mostly Turkey, Qatar, South Africa, Pakistan with a sprinkling of Germany (the Turks and Palis who live there).
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 09:58 PM (g47mK)
192187 Now they just need to see who is banging Tucker Carlson's network.
Posted by: runner
I read he's heading over to Qatar for some conference soon. FYI.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 05, 2025 09:58 PM (YoT4f)
193Netflix doesn’t release its content into theaters,
And that's a problem. Why not? I'd be happy to watch a good movie in a nice environment (read: with food, or IMAX) for a modest premium. I don't care what logo plays before it starts.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2025 09:59 PM (gKWVE)
It is underwater but the perspective makes it look above water.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 05, 2025 10:00 PM (y171U)
196
As a real America First American , whose ancestors fought int the Revolutionary War, I insist we focus on America First problems, and stop supporting filthy Zionists !!
Posted by: Starbucks Türkiye at December 05, 2025 10:00 PM (g47mK)
"BREAKING: Elon Musk confirms that a large portion of Nick Fuentes’ audience and engagement is coming from the Middle East and Pakistan.
No surprise. Who the fuck in the US of A would care what a fagghy dork from Berwyn (the jokes write themselves) has to say ?
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 09:54 PM (g47mK)
I do wonder if Fuentes is suffering from Audience Capture, where he started getting so many likes for specific stances on specific topics that he started bending to them to get more likes, and so on.
In short, he flew up his own butt for likes.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2025 10:05 PM (rbvCR)
Here We Go Again: Leftwing Propaganda Media Claims the Anti-Trump, Anti-ICE BLM Supporter Is Akshually MAGA
The Daily Wire reported Thursday evening that Cole comes from a family deeply entrenched in left-wing activism.
Weeks before the alleged bombings, Cole worked for his father's bail bond company, which specialized in freeing illegal immigrants and even sued the Trump administration's DHS over immigration enforcement.
...
Later in 2021, the company held a press conference bemoaning anti-black racism with a left-wing attorney. Cole Sr. and Benjamin Crump, who represented the family of Trayvon Martin, attempted to sic the Biden Department of Justice on a local Tennessee prosecutor who had raised questions about the bail bond company.
Cole and his father ran multiple bail bond companies specializing in helping illegal immigrants avoid jail. Public records show the father relocated to Knoxville, Tenn., around 2017. One company even sued the Trump administration's DHS over immigration policies, claiming its clients were unfairly penalized when they missed court dates, but the D.C. Court of Appeals rejected all their claims just weeks before Cole allegedly planted pipe bombs. In fact, Cole Jr. had already been buying bomb-making parts as early as May 2019 -- long before any disputes over election results.
But on Friday morning, the mainstream media started pushing the narrative that Cole is a Trump supporter who "believed conspiracy theories about the 2020 election."
"The man charged with planting two pipe bombs near the Democratic and Republican party headquarters on the eve of the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol told the FBI he believed conspiracy theories about the 2020 election, according to two people familiar with the matter," NBC News reported.
CNN published the same story. See the link for that.
Noted Fusion Slut and RussiaGate Hoaxer Natasha Bertrand is pushing this story too:
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (XuXeR)
6
When all you have is gaslighting you have to go hard core gaslighting.
Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (0N4FZ)
7
My theory is that he was pissed because the nomination was stolen from Bernie Sanders, which would explain the bomb at the DNC. He just hated republicans, which would explain the bomb at the RNC. Prove me wrong.
Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (98kQX)
8
I can't imagine why no one reads or watches the "msm" anymore.
(heavy sarcasm)
Posted by: Ann at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (w9jrX)
9
So Tapper was right and he really is white? I mean MAGA = white supremacist, so they keep telling me. Damn clever disguise, I must say.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (3nLb4)
10
The going rate on gas must be.... cheap to gaslight this much.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2025 06:34 PM (NwnyJ)
11
I'd say that too if I was actually a Trump hater... Maybe trying for a pardon ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2025 06:34 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 06:34 PM (vFG9F)
14The nut is probably lying.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 06:34 PM
Ya think?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:35 PM (jc0TO)
15
>>So Tapper was right and he really is white? I mean MAGA = white supremacist, so they keep telling me. Damn clever disguise, I must say.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM
A Larry Elder style white supremacist.
Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2025 06:35 PM (98kQX)
16
ND and Miami replay. Better than any news show.
Posted by: Accomack at December 05, 2025 06:35 PM (GbONR)
17
I thought ace said he was taking off for the weekend 3 threads sgo.
Ewok just can't quit us.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 06:36 PM (eZ5tL)
18
My theory is that he was pissed because the nomination was stolen from Bernie Sanders, which would explain the bomb at the DNC. He just hated republicans, which would explain the bomb at the RNC. Prove me wrong.
Posted by: huerfano at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (98kQX)
Doesn't really fit the prototypical Bernie Bro leftist wishing they were back in 1969.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:36 PM (8avO+)
19ND and Miami replay. Better than any news show.
Posted by: Accomack at December 05, 2025 06:35 PM
I liked the idea of Miami and Vandy playing an unsanctioned game tomorrow. Too bad it won't happen.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:36 PM (jc0TO)
20
Yeah... and who is the anonymous source who leaked this?
I'd wager they do not exist, or have anything to do with interrogating the suspect.
Flat out cur dog lie.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (mP0Kj)
21 This "white" black man, the builders of the gallows, and whoever "tipped off" or "found" the pipe bombs are ALL involved the Conspiracy to FRAME President Trump, and they all have connections to the US govt.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (cPNKV)
22
thought ace said he was taking off for the weekend 3 threads sgo.
Ewok just can't quit us.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 06:36 PM (eZ5tL)
he could have queued them all up before 2:30 when he said that. Or Elon gave him an AI trained ACE-BOT 3000
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (8avO+)
23 He was gloating that the 2020 election was successfully stolen.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (azNOR)
24
But it does show how stupid "The Playoff" can be.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (jc0TO)
25
I still think large parts of this story are BS.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (vFG9F)
26
Is this like the anonymous leak earlier this week that the IG report on "Signalgate" found Hegseth guilty of sharing National Security secrets ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (VE6XX)
27
1 Wow, you still working?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:31 PM (jc0TO)
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Scheduling things to post to the blog so that you can go guzzle Val-U-Rite in peace....how does that work?
Posted by: ballistic at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (5aZAZ)
28
The left throws their own under the bus. Typical.
Posted by: Case at December 05, 2025 06:38 PM (5Je/N)
29
He believes that the 2020 election was stolen, he's white, and wears MAGA pajamas to bed. Sure. I've heard 5 year olds lie better than this.
Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2025 06:39 PM (oiNtH)
30 And here's another rabid left-wing Democrat activist with ZERO Internet social media history?!?!
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:39 PM (cPNKV)
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 06:41 PM (pDt9x)
39
He believes that the 2020 election was stolen, he's white, and wears MAGA pajamas to bed. Sure. I've heard 5 year olds lie better than this.
Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2025 06:39 PM (oiNtH)
What cookies?
Posted by: Facially becrumbed 5 year old Count de Monet at December 05, 2025 06:42 PM (wVcYX)
40
38 Kid looks like Malcolm X sorta.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 06:41 PM (pDt9x)
Remember he's white so Talcum X
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2025 06:42 PM (VE6XX)
41
Whatever nobody listens to them anymore besides aged shut ins.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 06:42 PM (YwEeS)
42 This is EXACTLY what the muslim-world does -- they blame Israel for THEIR terror attacks.
They take credit for the bombing. Celebrate it.
Then they blame Israel for doing it.
Fucking Gaslighting. They think it's funny. They're laughing at us while they Mindfuck us.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:42 PM (cPNKV)
Posted by: White Hipanic Zimmerman at December 05, 2025 06:43 PM (Q+gd/)
44
What is the big deal about this Al Shabob guy ???
I know him well and we go bowling every Saturday.
Al is a great shot !!!!
Posted by: Timmy Walz at December 05, 2025 06:43 PM (J9q9v)
45
I'm tired of these people brazenly lying their asses off, but it's what I expect them to do. What bothers me far more is that so many people unhesitatingly and uncritically believe it. And they don't just believe it - they absorb it into their very souls like the parakletos has descended upon them and will defend it with a fire and zeal greater than the most devoted religious fundamentalist.
Posted by: That's the really terrifying part at December 05, 2025 06:43 PM (TbWk/)
46
What's that song that goes Au-To-Maaa Tic, with the woman singing it?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:40 PM (cPNKV)
33
is it a woman?
what's the song?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:41 PM (cPNKV)
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Pointer Sisters, with some kind of voice modulation effect.
Kind of weird that I know this.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 05, 2025 06:43 PM (0aYVJ)
47
Remember he's white so Talcum X
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2025 06:42 PM (VE6XX)
BLMinem?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 06:44 PM (06Hmj)
48
Remember he's white so Talcum X
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2025 06:42 PM (VE6XX)
He's a Soul Man.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:44 PM (zZu0s)
49
How would Bertrand have transcripts of his interviews with the FBI?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2025 06:44 PM (36PRH)
50
That "believes the 2020 election was stolen" is meaningless. Pull my other finger that all the Dems believed Biden won that election and there was no fraud. I'm sure in private they were like "thank god our side managed to pull off this fraud and get Drumpf out of office".
Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (hhkIi)
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (v0R5T)
53
Not directly related but looking at the earlier post featuring Jake the Snake Tapper, is it just me or is he starting to more closely resemble Kieth Olbermann?
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (YWi3q)
54
What's that song that goes Au-To-Maaa Tic, with the woman singing it?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:40 PM (cPNKV)
There's a Pointer Sisters one.
I also seem to recall one by the Motels or some other New Wave band.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (8avO+)
55
So didn't this guy start buying the bomb parts before the election ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (VE6XX)
56
Well, he is a white person (per Jake Tappedout) and we all do this. Do big deal.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (WONhk)
57
He is a White Man of Color that probably voted for Trump twice .......
Posted by: Timmy Walz at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (J9q9v)
58
Of course you are entitled to your own opinions , but not your own facts.
Trump was talking about stolen elections and rigged ballot boxes best back in 2016 I read about right here
The bail company was making bank. Because if Trump arresting so many, of course he supported Trump The company was floundering under Biden business boonmed under Trump
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (uCqBP)
59
Would sloppy Jake Tapper even be able to distinguish a whiteman's cock from a blackman's cock?
Jake is only interested in racking up the credits.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (w6S0H)
60
Ace is on Automatic.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:40 PM (cPNKV)
Automatic Commenter:
"Boobs. Slap a hot iron on the MSM while I make booze for dinner and my dog does the darnest thing while opening for gubs at the Corn Palace. Boobs."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (QZzSm)
61
Dog the Bounty Hunter >> Cole the Bounty Hunter.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2025 06:46 PM (wVcYX)
62
All those white people of color look the same to me.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:46 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Hamitchell62 at December 05, 2025 06:46 PM (tWkg3)
66 More blubbering on tonight's CBS News show about the poor, innocent drug dealers and the war crime against them. I hope we never - repeat, never - pass up the chance to blow them all to hell and not spare the means by which it's done.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2025 06:47 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (uCqBP)
Never not funny.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:47 PM (jc0TO)
68
I think he looks like Steve Urkel.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:45 PM (v0R5T)
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The media always likes to show these criminals in the best light, which is why we see their yearbook photo.
We should see their selfies where they are posing all gangsta, trying to establish their street cred.
69
Early access or not, crashing on Alt-tab is an unforgivable sin.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 06:48 PM (06Hmj)
70
22 thought ace said he was taking off for the weekend 3 threads sgo.
Ewok just can't quit us.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 06:36 PM (eZ5tL)
he could have queued them all up before 2:30 when he said that. Or Elon gave him an AI trained ACE-BOT 3000
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (8avO+)
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Can ACE-BOT 3000 come up with pitches for box office winners?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2025 06:48 PM (36PRH)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2025 06:49 PM (tgvbd)
72
Early access or not, crashing on Alt-tab is an unforgivable sin.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 06:48 PM (06Hmj)
Heh. I tried out the new dlc for fallout 76. Servers were crashed first day. Second day I could log in and the main quest immediately bugged out. I am moving towards Besthesda is dead to me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:49 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Jake Tapper at December 05, 2025 06:50 PM (0sNs1)
74
More blubbering on tonight's CBS News show about the poor, innocent drug dealers and the war crime against them. I hope we never - repeat, never - pass up the chance to blow them all to hell and not spare the means by which it's done.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2025 06:47 PM (tgvbd)
"Them" is unclear. CBS News? Drug dealers? Both?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 05, 2025 06:50 PM (QZzSm)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2025 06:50 PM (36PRH)
77 Them" is unclear. CBS News? Drug dealers? Both?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 05, 2025 06:50 PM (QZzSm)
_________
First, business. Then pleasure.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2025 06:51 PM (tgvbd)
78
@72 People still play that game?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2025 06:50 PM (36PRH)
People *ever* played that game?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:51 PM (8avO+)
79
I'm a bookslutaholic and, accordingly, have bought three books in the last 24 hours. That's all well and good but I was charged twice for one of the books. I called Amazon and there was some confusion. They asked which book I was talking about. I whispered, "Nazi Sex Spies." The guy, who sounded like he was from Bombay, asked me to repeat. "Nazi Sex Spies," I said. He said he still couldn't understand. "NAZI SEX SPIES!" I shouted. "NAZI! SEX! SPIES!" I finally got my $5 back.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 05, 2025 06:51 PM (L/fGl)
80People still play that game?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2025 06:50 PM
I don't.
Posted by: Homey at December 05, 2025 06:52 PM (jc0TO)
81
People still play that game?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2025 06:50 PM (36PRH)
I got it for like $9 a couple months ago. Got through 7 years of content in a month and then got really bored.
I can't imagine player counts are particularly high.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:52 PM (zZu0s)
82
They aren't scared yet. They aren't going to be scared until big names are hurt. LAWFARE !
I'm so angry waiting to see them fork over millions for lawyers
I could eat a pumpkin pie, a pumpkin pie and a quart of milk.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 06:52 PM (SZI4T)
83
58 "Of course you are entitled to your own opinions , but not your own facts.
Trump was talking about stolen elections and rigged ballot boxes best back in 2016 I read about right here
The bail company was making bank. Because if Trump arresting so many, of course he supported Trump The company was floundering under Biden business boonmed under Trump"
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I'm just wondering if the above text was altered.
If not, it's incoherent. I don't generally read this clown's posts, but for some reason I did this time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2025 06:53 PM (tXY4l)
84Marilyn Cole >>>>> Brian Cole
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2025 06:49 PM
Concur.
Posted by: Peter North, Proud Canadian and occasional commenter at December 05, 2025 06:53 PM (I/fAz)
85
How long did the msm go before they started lying about the bomber being a donk terrorist? 24 hours?
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 06:53 PM (QVmho)
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:53 PM (cPNKV)
87
If not, it's incoherent. I don't generally read this clown's posts, but for some reason I did this time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2025 06:53 PM (tXY4l)
Seems pretty normal to me. Attempt at a sick burn using a phrase from 10 years ago. The usual bullshit. Seems pretty standard.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:54 PM (zZu0s)
88
45 I'm tired of these people brazenly lying their asses off, but it's what I expect them to do. What bothers me far more is that so many people unhesitatingly and uncritically believe it. And they don't just believe it - they absorb it into their very souls like the parakletos has descended upon them and will defend it with a fire and zeal greater than the most devoted religious fundamentalist.
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This, exactly. They've gone completely psychotic, and have built their own lefty Bizzarro World. It's basically a secular Islam, with the almighty State standing in for Allah. Submit or die.
The problem is that the otherwise disengaged LIVs absorb some of this, subliminally. All they hear is Trump....Epstein....war crime...blah blah blah. Even my mother, who voted for Trump but doesn't really pay attention, thinks that there has to be some validity given all the smoke the left has been putting out there for 10 years.
Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at December 05, 2025 06:54 PM (xverI)
89
So he had financial as well as ideological motives.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 06:54 PM (9vfnu)
90 Remember, We "don't know" the "motive" of biden's afgan "refugee."
But he was probably stressed about Trump's lousy economy.
FUCK YOU.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:55 PM (cPNKV)
"The man charged with planting two pipe bombs near the Democratic and Republican."
If the election was stolen, stolen from...who exactly? Why bomb both? I suspect he'll say the election was stolen from "the Rent is too Damn High" guy.
Look at how poorly designed the bombs were. How he wandered around and around after planting them. He's a kook. I don't expect his ideology makes any sense.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 06:55 PM (gDhA9)
92
couldn't understand. "NAZI SEX SPIES!" I shouted. "NAZI! SEX! SPIES!" I finally got my $5 back.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
I guess everybody is different and God bless you, but I would have let them keep the five bucks. That would be like having to get on the phone to explain that you're sending back the condoms because they were too big.
Posted by: Delicate Disposition at December 05, 2025 06:55 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2025 06:57 PM (2WIwB)
94
Seems pretty normal to me. Attempt at a sick burn using a phrase from 10 years ago. The usual bullshit. Seems pretty standard.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:54 PM (zZu0s)
It's gibberish. Weird grammar.
Could be AI generated.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2025 06:57 PM (EWlvz)
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 06:57 PM (XuXeR)
96
couldn't understand. "NAZI SEX SPIES!" I shouted. "NAZI! SEX! SPIES!" I finally got my $5 back.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
I guess everybody is different and God bless you, but I would have let them keep the five bucks. That would be like having to get on the phone to explain that you're sending back the condoms because they were too big.
Posted by: Delicate Disposition at December 05, 2025 06:55 PM (oftw2)
it would be worth keeping one to sneak into bookshelves and take portraits of serious people with that book out front and center.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:58 PM (8avO+)
97
Media delenda est with a topping of nuclear fire to cleanse it clean.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 06:59 PM (2GVsD)
98
If the election was stolen, stolen from...who exactly? Why bomb both? I suspect he'll say the election was stolen from "the Rent is too Damn High" guy.
Look at how poorly designed the bombs were. How he wandered around and around after planting them. He's a kook. I don't expect his ideology makes any sense.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 06:55 PM (gDhA9)
I still say the evidence we've seen so far, it looks more likely this guy didn't do it.
Or if he WAS involved, he was participating with the help of a three letter agency.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2025 06:59 PM (v2PU4)
99
13 The nut is probably lying.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 06:34 PM (vFG9F)
_________
Of course. That's what Natasha Bertrand does.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 05, 2025 07:00 PM (s0JqF)
100 Cole is Maga. He tried to hang me while I was getting a subway sandwich.
Posted by: Jussie Smollet at December 05, 2025 07:01 PM (IifOV)
101
Where did he get the black powder? Or was it white powder?
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2025 07:01 PM (Q+gd/)
102
According to this X thread researching Cole and his presence online:
https://tinyurl.com/y4r63ptm
(thereaderapp)
I_am_Hot_4_Cock appears to have been his username associated to his email colebrian****@gmail.com that was involved in the 2016 hacking of the Adult Friend Finder sex and swingers hook-up site.
He has some other "patriotic" usernames, etc.
Was into anime, and played a lot of video games.
Liked to use the name "Delta" a lot.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 07:01 PM (6ydKt)
103Or if he WAS involved, he was participating with the help of a three letter agency.
Remember the pine scented druid's agency was very good at giving 'lone wolf' terror cells all they needed to make the bombs and then arrest them.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:01 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: garrett at December 05, 2025 07:04 PM (TR2dy)
108
If your head cannon tells you that anime is the root cause of it all, you are a fvcking tourist.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:04 PM (2GVsD)
109
Remember the pine scented druid's agency was very good at giving 'lone wolf' terror cells all they needed to make the bombs and then arrest them.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Now you tell us
Posted by: El Mikloso, Abogado por Cesar Sayoc at December 05, 2025 07:05 PM (N7hqt)
110
I hear conflicting stuff
Posted by: Don Black at December 05, 2025 07:02 PM (ZxPkt)
No way!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2025 07:05 PM (2v2r4)
111
Who believes more than anyone that the 2020 election was stolen, a MAGA extremist...or a Democrat insider?
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2025 07:06 PM (XFXIk)
112
I still say the evidence we've seen so far, it looks more likely this guy didn't do it.
Or if he WAS involved, he was participating with the help of a three letter agency.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2025 06:59 PM (v2PU4)
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yeah, chances are pretty good there are some DMs out there where he's chatting with someone providing "encouragement" that he'd be doing the country a favor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 07:08 PM (zZu0s)
118
The problem with women isn't the babies or lack thereof, it's the the psy ops being run on them through the media. Black women have babies, they're not conservative.
Look at all the trends that started magically around "2009" when the media managed to convince everyone, women included, that politics was personal.
Targeted psy ops are the issue.
From Obama, Trayvon and RACISM through the phony Hillary Rise of Women and hashtag MeToo bs, through covid... all were targeted planned psychological operations designed to mush the brains of the susceptible. And we are living the result.
Posted by: ... at December 05, 2025 07:08 PM (E0p3T)
119
Fallout 76 - "we're going for the modern audience!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:07 PM (2GVsD)
It had some interesting ideas, but the latest thing which is supposed to be New Vegas themed is set in... Ohio? Wtf?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 07:09 PM (zZu0s)
120
It doesn't matter to me that this tard is a faggot.
Posted by: fd
Gotta fag, handsome sir?
Posted by: Eliza Doolittle, pre-Professor Higgins at December 05, 2025 07:09 PM (N7hqt)
121
David French ratted Cole out, he was jealous of that nic.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:09 PM (2GVsD)
122Noted Fusion Slut and RussiaGate Hoaxer Natasha Bertrand is pushing this story too:
Well, she may be a slut, but she's fairly easy on the eyes
Have to admit, though...that last photo has crazy/sanpaku eyes.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 05, 2025 07:09 PM (ycI94)
123
yeah, chances are pretty good there are some DMs out there where he's chatting with someone providing "encouragement" that he'd be doing the country a favor.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 05, 2025 07:06 PM (ESVrU)
That's possibly the least of it.
My thing is, this is 2025. Don't show me a grainy photo, wearing a unique pair of shoes, and tell me you have the guy.
In other news, I saw a video the other day where Santa Claus was wrassling Stephen Hawking.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2025 07:10 PM (PFg0D)
124
David French ratted Cole out, he was jealous of that nic.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:09 PM (2GVsD)
Strictly speaking, it's his wife who's hot for cock.
Please make a note of it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 07:11 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:11 PM (2GVsD)
126
That guy is as black as Jasmine Crockett. I will never forget her cotton picking and wearing chains speech. The only cotton she ever picked was some out of a medicine bottle.
The only chains she ever wore were gold chains around her neck. The stupid, stupid lies these people tell to get their way is sickening bullshit. Anyone who believes it is a retard.
Posted by: Case at December 05, 2025 07:11 PM (5Je/N)
Posted by: West Virginia code miners at December 05, 2025 07:12 PM (N7hqt)
128
105. I'm curious as well. I'd read the bombs were duds and in my mind went "fake" But yesterday someone posted that the pipes were packed with black powder and and metal scraps. The dud was that "maga Urkel" did not have anything that would detonate them, just kitchen timers, that were not set up to even complete an electric circuit and potentially make a spark.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2025 07:12 PM (hhkIi)
If Urkel was involved it might have involved time travel.
Posted by: frankly at December 05, 2025 07:15 PM (pvBJS)
135
Ha! Went out on the front porch and there was a Cologuard box sitting there. My wife asked me what I knew about it and I said all that I knew was this
https://youtu.be/Mu12X2cu6Y0
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 07:16 PM (jc0TO)
136
Look to see who is most verbal in portraying this falsehood. Those folks are likely the ones that influenced it being buried, and there is likely communications to that effect. The Jan 6th committee destroyed a lot of their communications, but they were sent somewhere, and I'm still curious about the details of what was found in the burn room of the FBI.
The louder someone proclaims Cole is MAGA, the more likely that person is in ass protection mode. The premise is so outlandish, that this seems like a Hail Mary to avoid repercussions.
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2025 07:17 PM (dIske)
137
108 If your head cannon tells you that anime is the root cause of it all, you are a fvcking tourist.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:04 PM (2GVsD)
If you have an actual head cannon you might be in an anime.
Posted by: Just saying at December 05, 2025 07:18 PM (TbWk/)
138
Woo hoo! The Toyota Helux Champ will soon be on the American market! It’s a light-duty, basic pickup truck that will likely sell for less than $20k. Until today, U.S. regulations made it impossible to sell in our markets.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2025 07:18 PM (0sNs1)
139
The fact that he thought the 2020 election was stolen just tells me he knew his ass from a hole in the ground.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2025 07:18 PM (fd80v)
140
He escaped this long for being a not a Jan6 MAGA protester, now will be claimed one since he got caught.
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 07:19 PM (Ia/+0)
141The Toyota Helux Champ will soon be on the American market!
Will it accept an M-2 in the bed? I know some Afghans would be interested.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:19 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 07:21 PM (jc0TO)
143
>>>----
yeah, chances are pretty good there are some DMs out there where he's chatting with someone providing "encouragement" that he'd be doing the country a favor.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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we'll just look the other way on that oz in your glove box
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 07:22 PM (SZI4T)
Posted by: ... at December 05, 2025 07:30 PM (E0p3T)
149
Nood. Cafe. If anyone besides me did nkt know.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 07:31 PM (zZu0s)
150
147 Why would you make fake bombs with real gunpowder?
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 07:15 PM (vFG9F)
Because you want them to be real, but you don't want them to go off. Maybe? I dunno.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 07:30 PM (zZu0s)
because he's a fucking idiot/lunatic.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 07:34 PM (gDhA9)
151
103 Or if he WAS involved, he was participating with the help of a three letter agency.
Remember the pine scented druid's agency was very good at giving 'lone wolf' terror cells all they needed to make the bombs and then arrest them.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2025 07:01 PM (2GVsD)
If this guy (or some other people) planted these bombs on J5, the rally that happened on J6 should never have taken place. Someone should have discovered the EDs, then notified Capitol Police, and then the whole site would have been declared off limits to the public as there would have been an active investigation taking place on J6.
Why were those devices even allowed to stay there? That area is probably some of the most remotely monitored real estate in the world.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2025 08:06 PM (0CU3H)
152
The media is nothing more than a subversive, treasonous Fifth Column. They should be destroyed without pity.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 05, 2025 08:50 PM (aKxxZ)
153
If I wanted to do as much damage as possible to Trump I'd give the FBI a BS story like that, too.
Posted by: Socratease at December 05, 2025 08:50 PM (YgfoU)
Posted by: Socratease at December 05, 2025 08:51 PM (YgfoU)
155...Why were those devices even allowed to stay there? That area is probably some of the most remotely monitored real estate in the world.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 05, 2025 08:06 PM (0CU3H)
And I seem to remember that there were reports of a police car or two sitting within the danger area/blast radius, seemingly unconcerned and the drift of the story I recall is that they knew the bombs were fake which is why they weren't reacting. Maybe my memory is bad but I distinctly recall something like that.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 05, 2025 08:54 PM (aKxxZ)
156
Distraction 101. The 'pipe bomber' is not a story, islamo-communists taking control of the worlds capital - NYC - and even London is.
The 'republican' party is either complicit or plain stupid.
Pam Bondi is friends with Ben Crump and allowed a fake witness(Jeantel) in the Trayvon Martin bullshit.
Sodom on Potomac is a screenplay distraction laundering our money.
Posted by: Danimal28 at December 06, 2025 08:01 AM (mNOhh)
The Week In Woke
How many trillions does the Racism, Inc. grift cost us?
[T]here's one aspect of this industrial-scale robbery of the American people that feels especially chilling: It's this: When officials raised concerns about one of the Somali scams, the scammers threatened to publicly brand them as "racist."
You will be tarred with the brush of "racism," the fraudsters warned, and it will be "sprawled all over the news."
And here's the thing: it worked.
The officials crumbled in the face of the scammers' shameless playing of the "racism" card.
They carried on funding what they suspected was a sketchy outfit, so desperate were they to avoid being called "racist.".
This reveals a chilling truth not only about Minnesota but about the West more broadly.
It speaks to the lethal power of the racism grift.
It confirms that accusations of "racism" have become a key weapon in the armory of the duplicitous.
Even the state itself can now be cowed by mere whispers of the r-word.
It was Feeding Our Future that aroused the suspicion of state officials.
The Minnesota Department of Education was alarmed by the number of "feeding sites" that were popping up.
Yet the Somali scammers knew how to silence their doubters -- just cry "racism."
You will be in trouble if you fail to fund "minority-owned businesses," they said, and the Department of Education buckled.
"The money kept flowing," as one report says.
It was blackmail. Minnesota officials essentially handed wads of cash to the scammers to buy their silence, to shush their talk of "racism."
They gave away the taxes of working-class Americans in order to save their own bureaucratic skin -- such is the hypnotic power of the "racism" panic.
And it's not just in the United States; throughout the Western world, state officials are so scared of being called racist that they'll even turn a blind eye to criminal behavior.
Here in the UK, the "grooming gang" scandal was underpinned by the same moral cowardice.
White working-class girls in towns across England were raped by gangs of men from mostly Pakistani backgrounds, and everyone from cops to politicians looked the other way.
Why? Because, as one inquiry found, they feared "being thought of as racist."
Forget the trillions of dollars stolen -- how many needless deaths does the Racism, Inc. scam cost us?
As Soros spokesman Michael Vachon admitted, "We started a movement . . . the knee-jerk, so-called tough-on-crime philosophy has been discredited in many communities."
He is right, and the results are catastrophic.
The foundational belief these progressive DAs share is that systemic social change, not aggressive prosecution, is the answer to crime.
...
It meant the effective elimination of criminal justice, putting more criminals -- even repeat offenders -- back on the streets.
This week an NYU student was assaulted in Greenwich Village by James Rizzo, a recidivist criminal with 16 arrests and a lengthy record of assaulting women.
Last week in Chicago Lawrence Reed, a man with a 72-arrest record and eight felony convictions, set a young woman on fire on the CTA Blue Line.
In Denver last month, repeat offender Charles Cooley broke into the home of Kevin and Sarah Root. After posting a $500 surety bond, Cooley is back on the street ("awaiting trial").
And these harrowing stories aren't one-offs; they reflect the data showing how Soros-backed prosecutors worsened crime.
In 2021 Philadelphia, under Soros DA Larry Krasner, broke its all-time murder record -- as did 12 other cities with progressive DAs.
In Chicago under DA Kim Foxx, overall reported crime skyrocketed by 369% between 2019 and 2023, driven largely by huge jumps in property crimes like motor vehicle theft.
Other major cities saw similar spikes.
In Oregon, under the direction of Soros-funded DA Mike Schmidt, drug decriminalization policies coincided with a huge spike in drug overdose fatalities, which more than tripled from 280 in 2019 to 956 in 2022.
Adam Carolla has been pointing out that ball-less leftist "men" have been crossing their legs like women for years.
Tim Walz, who has joked about "getting some news" about Trump being murdered and never apologized for it, is now complaining that people are shouting out "Retard!" at him after Trump declared him to be "seriously retarded."
People are driving by his house and shouting "Retard!" And this fat retarded queen is very angry about it.
JUST IN: Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz is now whining that people are driving by his house yelling “retard” and pouting that Republicans won’t rush to defend him.
Did he not forget he was calling Trump and his supporters fascists and equating them to Hitler? This guy is a joke! pic.twitter.com/GEdcNjU4yK
Camus
@newstart_2024
Bret Weinstein just said something that won't leave my head:
For the first time in 300,000 years of human evolution, we removed the cost from the single biggest reward nature ever invented -- sex and pair-bonding.
Reliable birth control + abortion = you can now cash the evolutionary lottery ticket without paying the 20-year mortgage of pregnancy, diapers, sleepless nights, and college funds.
Result? An entire generation of 18--35-year-olds walking around with the energy, libido, hormones, and protective instincts that evolution spent millions of years calibrating for child-rearing... but with zero actual children. That energy didn't disappear. It got redirected.
Heather Heying's observation is brutal: young women especially began treating ideologies the exact way evolution wired them to treat babies. Climate change, social justice, whatever the cause of the month is -- it gets defended with literal mama-bear ferocity, the same neurochemistry that once guarded a toddler from predators now guards an abstract idea from wrong think.
And now Elon is promising the second shoe is about to drop: AI-driven abundance will make money as "free" as sex became in the 1970s. Both of evolution's primary carrots -- mating and resource acquisition suddenly cost almost nothing.
Weinstein's ice-cold question: When producing and protecting actual children is no longer the central organizing principle of adult life... and when creating wealth is no longer required for status, security, or attracting a mate...What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?
Are we about to become a species that invents bigger and bigger dragons to slay just to feel alive? Or do we drift into total listlessness? This 3:52 clip is genuinely haunting.
Watch it all the way through, then tell me -- honestly -- does this explain the absolute intensity we're seeing in culture right now, or is Bret completely missing something?
Video here.
Work hard. Remember, there are foreign layabouts on food stamps and Somali pirates depending on you!
“Some days I want to give up but there’s people on benefits depending on me.”
People who graft and work in all conditions to help fund Migrant benefits.
6
We be thinks that what Trump and the Hagelf guy are doing in the CARIBEN Sea is be worst then that Lt. Kelly did at that Mai Tai place in Vietman. They should be put in jail now !!
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 05, 2025 05:38 PM (0IwHf)
7
So something I have noticed recently. The Left would deploy the racism, Islamphobe, transphode, hater, -something-ist diatribe against the Right and they'd automatically FOLD. Since "some" on the Right have apparently reconnected to their gonads, these diatribes have much less effectiveness. HOWEVER, because the Left has sold their souls to these intersectional paradigms, any accusation that imperils their "bonafides" is deadly.
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 05, 2025 05:39 PM (e/Osv)
Posted by: Dad of Six at December 05, 2025 05:39 PM (+OGAU)
9
"Adam Carolla has been pointing out that ball-less leftist "men" have been crossing their legs like women for years."
You don't see Big Mike sitting like that, Little Mike would complain...
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 05, 2025 05:40 PM (RbgyB)
10
I went to see FNAF2 with my kid today. I think there were about ten people total in the theater. By that blumhouse studio that does horror stuff. Not really my thing but the kid is a big fan. Lots of inside stuff that you would have to know from the games and be a fan and went over my head.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2025 05:41 PM (3uBP9)
11
>>People are driving by his house and shouting "Retard!"
I really hope this gets legs. It's funny as hell and it obviously pisses Walz off. Mockery is still the best weapon.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:42 PM (viF8m)
12
Hey Timmy the Tard, it's "retard", not "the R word", you fucking retard
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 05, 2025 05:42 PM (RbgyB)
13
If everyone has the same amount of money, money is not status. Something else, something probably stupid, will be status. Because status is by definition what only a few people have. It used to be white skin was status because it meant you didn't have to work outdoors (and most people did). Then tan skin was status because it meant you had the money to vacation in Hawaii (and few people were that rich).
And seriously, people only got stupid and fanatic *after* birth control? The Tulip Craze would like a word.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at December 05, 2025 05:43 PM (CidsT)
14
Being called a racist by pond-scum Somalis should be a badge of honor.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 05, 2025 05:43 PM (rJ48h)
15
Tim Walz *is* a retard, and so are any people from Minnesota that feel uncomfortable recognizing that fact.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 05:44 PM (TN0g+)
16
Inciting violence on Walz is all I want for Christmas.
Well, one of the things. Not the only. There are others I want violence to visit.
Yea.... I'm getting a lump of coal for Christmas, but you know what?
I do not give a fuck.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2025 05:45 PM (NwnyJ)
17
Somalian are a country of criminals for the most part.
Surprised they are not pirating boats in the Great Lakes
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 05:45 PM (Ia/+0)
18
That Newsom guy is loathsome
things are going to suck when he's President
Posted by: Don Black at December 05, 2025 05:46 PM (ZxPkt)
19
Racism? Nah. Pick an issue... starving chillens, food deserts, medical deserts, lead paint, etc...
The issue is that the "cradle to grave" money stream attracts grifters who will yell anything as an excuse to grab with both hands and make a stash...
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:46 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: Tim Walz, Retard at December 05, 2025 05:46 PM (9ZILp)
23
What Are The Odds You & Your Wife/Girlfriend would have FOUR Z's in your names??
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 05:32 PM (cPNKV)
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How many points is that worth in Scrabble if I use a Triple Word Score?
24
“Some days I want to give up but there’s people on benefits depending on me.”
Even with being retired the wife and I can't escape the tax man. We worked a combined 100 years between the both of us and we are still paying $15,000 in federal taxes each and every year.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2025 05:47 PM (0N4FZ)
Hey... what happened to those great "Caribbean" drinks? Anyone have a blue hawaiian lately?
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:48 PM (XuXeR)
26
Even with being retired the wife and I can't escape the tax man. We worked a combined 100 years between the both of us and we are still paying $15,000 in federal taxes each and every year.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2025 05:47 PM (0N4FZ)
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Which the government doesn't even need since they just print however much money they want.
27
We worked a combined 100 years between the both of us and we are still paying $15,000 in federal taxes each and every year."
Feels great being a sucker, huh?
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:49 PM (XuXeR)
28
The odds of someone with two Z's in his name hooking up with an unrelated woman also with two Z's in her name are, like, what, 0.001?
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 05:33 PM (cPNKV)
Lots of lining up in elementary schools by alphabet can do that.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:49 PM (8avO+)
29 Wait , what? Weren't we just bracing for this ungodly pairing?
Vanity Fair will be parting ways with Olivia Nuzzi, the magazine’s short-lived West Coast editor, extricating itself from a storm of controversy over her past romantic relationship with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health secretary
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at December 05, 2025 05:50 PM (WE5Gl)
30
Oh come on, it wasn’t threats of ‘racism’ that kept the Somali Vermin fraud going. It was cold hard cash. Everyone that needed to be paid off was paid off. The mafia did the same thing back in the day, without cries of racism, by paying off the right people. The ugly Somali mutants aren’t nearly as cool as Don Corleone, but they are using his play book. It’s all corruption, straight up, to the left and right, and right up taxpayers assholes.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 05, 2025 05:50 PM (osKUJ)
31
Selfishness, compliancy, apathy and dependence. This is the last stage before the return to bandage in the Tytler cycle.
We are are a couple of steps down this path.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 05, 2025 05:50 PM (sDNVV)
32"There's one aspect of this industrial-scale robbery of the American people that feels especially chilling: It's this: When officials raised concerns about one of the Somali scams, the scammers threatened to publicly brand them as "racist..."
And here's the thing: it worked.
The officials crumbled in the face of the scammers' shameless playing of the "racism" card.
They carried on funding what they suspected was a sketchy outfit, so desperate were they to avoid being called "racist...."
I don't understand.
The word "racit" had already lodt all its power TWO DECADES ago.
I wrote this definition in 2005:
racist - A statement of surrender during an argument. When two people or disputants are engaged in an acrimonious debate, the side that first says "Racist!" has conceded defeat. Synonymous with saying "Resign" during a chess game, or "Uncle" during a schoolyard fight. Originally, the term was meant to indicate that one side was accusing the other of being racist, but once it was noticed that people only resorted to this tactic when all other arguments had been exhausted, it acquired its new meaning of "indicating one's own concession of defeat."
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2025 05:50 PM (oraVG)
33When producing and protecting actual children is no longer the central organizing principle of adult life... and when creating wealth is no longer required for status, security, or attracting a mate...What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?
Eventually it will devolve to the elimination of the other. I suspect that the muzzies have a head start on that one.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2025 05:50 PM (ExV1e)
34
11 >>People are driving by his house and shouting "Retard!"
I really hope this gets legs. It's funny as hell and it obviously pisses Walz off. Mockery is still the best weapon.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Considering Walz ordered police to lock up Minnesotans in Covid time, he can certainly enjoy the fruits of his rule of error.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:50 PM (WDjG6)
35
I think the younger generation won't give the accusation of "racism" the time of day anymore. You should see some of the chat groups I'm in on Instagram with friends and people I don't even know that pass around content that the left would surely say is "racist" or "racially insensitive".
The youngest in the groups are the ones sending the ones that even get me saying "whoa thats... thats pretty bad".
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 05, 2025 05:51 PM (WYStd)
36
I find myself agreeing with that Blade person. Yoikes.
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:52 PM (XuXeR)
37
Are we sure that's a leg cross?
Looks more like a yoga position.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:52 PM (6ydKt)
38
>>I really hope this gets legs. It's funny as hell and it obviously pisses Walz off. Mockery is still the best weapon.
Posted by: JackStraw
Ndat nhguy ees uh wetahd!
Posted by: Marlee Matlin at December 05, 2025 05:52 PM (TR2dy)
39
Wait , what? Weren't we just bracing for this ungodly pairing?
Vanity Fair will be parting ways with Olivia Nuzzi, the magazine’s short-lived West Coast editor, extricating itself from a storm of controversy over her past romantic relationship with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health secretary
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone
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MSNOW could use a woman like Nuzzi. Pair her with Ken "Fusion" Dilanian and you gotta a dynamic duo of misinformation and propaganda.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:52 PM (WDjG6)
40
And yes, Liberal Minnesotans are terrified of being called 'racist' or 'mean'. They're worse than Brits.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 05, 2025 05:37 PM (xcxpd)
unless they are speaking of their Republican countrymen. Then its death camps all the way.
They don't mean any of that shit. They hate everyone, including themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:52 PM (8avO+)
41
29
Wait , what? Weren't we just bracing for this ungodly pairing?
Vanity Fair will be parting ways with Olivia Nuzzi, the magazine’s short-lived West Coast editor, extricating itself from a storm of controversy over her past romantic relationship with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health secretary
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at December 05, 2025 05:50 PM (WE5Gl)
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So it was RFKJ who VF could not bare? I guess VF was okay with the army of guys this Nuzzi whore fucked to get ahead. But that RFKJ, no way!
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 05, 2025 05:53 PM (osKUJ)
42Hey Timmy the Tard, it's "retard", not "the R word", you fucking retard
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at December 05, 2025 05:42 PM (RbgyB)
If someone said "the R word" to me, I would just start listing words which begin with R in a questioning tone. Random? Regional? Risotto?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2025 05:53 PM (ExV1e)
43
What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?"
Sounds like it's 1450 again...
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:53 PM (XuXeR)
44“Some days I want to give up but there’s people on benefits depending on me.” ====
This idea is so utterly fascist it begs belief.
Get back to work, slave.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:54 PM (m6HS6)
45
I don't really buy that "oh we were scared of being called racist". Its a handy excuse for being too lazy to do the hard part of your job and do a bit of legwork to verify those groups were feeding kids. Yes in 2008 the commies used the race card to elect Barack and push their commie agenda with the "You are racist retort to criticisms of any of Barky's commie policy moves.
And most folks figured it out and the race card lost a lot of its power. The Soros DAs and judges putting criminals on the streets are not doing it because they think it evens the racial scales, the thugs are mostly attacking their own race. But crime and anarchy makes people willing to give up their freedom for a promise of safety. Maybe some of the dumb bunny FNM newsreaders think that putting black thugs back on the streets is less racicst than locking them up so that ordinary blacks or brown people whatever can be more safe.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2025 05:54 PM (hhkIi)
46
I think the younger generation won't give the accusation of "racism" the time of day anymore. You should see some of the chat groups I'm in on Instagram with friends and people I don't even know that pass around content that the left would surely say is "racist" or "racially insensitive".
The youngest in the groups are the ones sending the ones that even get me saying "whoa thats... thats pretty bad".
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 05, 2025 05:51 PM (WYStd)
I liked it when people started calling things racist that even an idiot knew it didn't apply. "The grasshoppers are eating the crops, the pests" "That's racist!"
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:54 PM (8avO+)
47Inciting violence on Walz is all I want for Christmas.
and this lamp.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 05:54 PM (jc0TO)
I tried, because I'm a risk-taker, and X simply won't cooperate.
All I'm getting right now is an endless loading loop.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:54 PM (6ydKt)
49
17 Somalian are a country of criminals for the most part.
Surprised they are not pirating boats in the Great Lakes
Posted by: Skip
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International Falls and Lake Superior is too cold even for Somalian pirates to operate.
I guess they could pirate barges on the Mississippi but would have the problem of selling the grain on them.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:55 PM (WDjG6)
50
Got TJM on the big screen as finally connected my phone to TV
He looks younger on the big screen
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 05:55 PM (Ia/+0)
51
I love the guy's Hero of Socialist Labor pose and uniform.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:55 PM (m6HS6)
52
I don't really buy that "oh we were scared of being called racist". Its a handy excuse for being too lazy to do the hard part of your job "
This. Times 10,000
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:55 PM (XuXeR)
53Hey... what happened to those great "Caribbean" drinks? Anyone have a blue hawaiian lately?
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:48 PM (XuXeR)
With the American judiciary, you don't need alcohol to get fucked by a blue Hawaiian.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 05, 2025 05:55 PM (ExV1e)
54 I mentioned it yesterday, and it's still going on today: 100% of the Left's Internet Hate-Rage is directed at the 6 Justices on the Court.
They are intentionally trying to get Justices assassinated.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 05:56 PM (cPNKV)
55
Those of you thinking zoomers and later will ignore "racist" as a serious label forget that half the US lives in the shadow of ridiculous blue police state local/state government. Ignoring it isn't an option, they WILL go after you, and you will not stand a chance in court, if a jury is even allowed.
Not to mention the input from all the zampolits in the HR departments of just about any corporate employer.
We have a long way to go and I doubt we will be free of this bullshit without some serious unpleasantness.
Posted by: heya at December 05, 2025 05:56 PM (TkJMd)
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:56 PM (XuXeR)
57
I liked it when people started calling things racist that even an idiot knew it didn't apply. "The grasshoppers are eating the crops, the pests" "That's racist!"
Posted by: Oldcat
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Agree and Amplify and the idiots will lap it up until the epithet has no sting anymore.
Upper class twits slow on the uptake and criminals going to jail are about the only ones that engage in that trash anymore.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:57 PM (WDjG6)
58Heather Heying's observation is brutal: young women especially began treating ideologies the exact way evolution wired them to treat babies. Climate change, social justice, whatever the cause of the month is -- it gets defended with literal mama-bear ferocity, the same neurochemistry that once guarded a toddler from predators now guards an abstract idea from wrong think.
Pretty good observation.
It does explain AWFLs quite well.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:57 PM (6ydKt)
59
Not to mention the input from all the zampolits in the HR departments of just about any corporate employer."
They will pound you down. Comply, worker!
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:57 PM (XuXeR)
60
11 >>People are driving by his house and shouting "Retard!"
I really hope this gets legs. It's funny as hell and it obviously pisses Walz off. Mockery is still the best weapon.
Posted by: JackStraw
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This one is worth a click:
https://tinyurl.com/suruy3cn
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 05:57 PM (1ZMNP)
61
He is claiming that calling him a retard is "dangerous" and incites violence.
_______________________
Speaking for myself. I'm less likely to throw down on a retard for a couple reasons. First, beating up retards is like beating up women. There is no up side. No sense of accomplishment.
Also, there are a select few retards that possess "retard strength"...which is not explainable by our current understanding of biology or physics.
(I'm pretty sure I offended everyone with this post. Mission accomplished.)
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2025 05:58 PM (dIske)
62
54
I mentioned it yesterday, and it's still going on today: 100% of the Left's Internet Hate-Rage is directed at the 6 Justices on the Court.
They are intentionally trying to get Justices assassinated.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Federal marshals are still one of the least corrupted forces and they protect the justices. Plus you don't have asshole Bidenites around to manipulate security force coverage anymore.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:58 PM (WDjG6)
63
I mentioned it yesterday, and it's still going on today: 100% of the Left's Internet Hate-Rage is directed at the 6 Justices on the Court.
They are intentionally trying to get Justices assassinated.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 05:56 PM (cPNKV)
kinda stupid since Trump can appoint a younger one. And a meaner one. Like his assistant Miller. He'd tear the liberal judges a new one every dissent.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:58 PM (8avO+)
"began"??? Orwell was observing already existing behavior.
Posted by: man at December 05, 2025 05:58 PM (XuXeR)
65
61 He is claiming that calling him a retard is "dangerous" and incites violence.
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Mebbe he prefers groomer or pedo instead.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:59 PM (WDjG6)
66
But he's pretentious enough for a mid-life Weimar German.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:59 PM (zZu0s)
67And now Elon is promising the second shoe is about to drop: AI-driven abundance will make money as "free" as sex became in the 1970s. Both of evolution's primary carrots -- mating and resource acquisition suddenly cost almost nothing.
Elon is a dreamer.
I like him, but he's dreaming.
AI is likely to put a lot of white-collar workers out of a job.
How this creates abundance is beyond me unless Universal Basic Income is about to become a thing, and that won't be making people abundant, it will make them more dependent with a lower standard of living for most, while the wealthy will be even wealthier.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:59 PM (6ydKt)
68 Yeah, good luck getting a Trump-nominated Justice out of Senate committee. Never gonna happen.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:00 PM (cPNKV)
69
I have seen it noted that the somali fraud has finally been called out but I haven't seen anywhere that the fraud has been cut off.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2025 06:00 PM (n5tGW)
70 If Thomas, or any of them, croak today, the seat will be vacant until after the 2028 election.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:01 PM (cPNKV)
71
>>Heather Heying's observation is brutal: young women especially began treating ideologies the exact way evolution wired them to treat babies. Climate change, social justice, whatever the cause of the month is -- it gets defended with literal mama-bear ferocity, the same neurochemistry that once guarded a toddler from predators now guards an abstract idea from wrong think.
This is a fascinating incite and so true.
Or alternatively....
We're f**ked, proper f**ked.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2025 06:01 PM (XV/Pl)
72
The officials crumbled in the face of the scammers' shameless playing of the "racism" card.
*********
They crumbled like a...
...cheerleader pyramid with the fat kid on top.
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 06:02 PM (/iMjX)
73
It confirms that accusations of "racism" have become a key weapon in the armory of the duplicitous.
.......
So only people of color committed these crimes?
Interesting.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:02 PM (v0R5T)
74
Elon is a dreamer.
I like him, but he's dreaming.
AI is likely to put a lot of white-collar workers out of a job.
How this creates abundance is beyond me unless Universal Basic Income is about to become a thing, and that won't be making people abundant, it will make them more dependent with a lower standard of living for most, while the wealthy will be even wealthier.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:59 PM (6ydKt)
Someone has to clean the shit off the robots.
As for white collars losing jobs, huge chunks of administration people have a negative value to the company, impeding the work of the others or making it impossible at worst. Every company outside mom and pop shops have em.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:02 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 06:03 PM (/iMjX)
76
Because Trump got the FNM to pounce on him calling Tim Walz retarded way more of the country knows about the Somali fraud in Minnesota. Trump has still got the ability to get the FNM to jump at that laser dot and talk about things they were going to smother. I hope it opens more LIVs eyes.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2025 06:03 PM (hhkIi)
77
68
Yeah, good luck getting a Trump-nominated Justice out of Senate committee. Never gonna happen.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Blue slip does not apply to Scotus appointees. As long as GOP has the majority, Trump would likely get his pick even leaving Collins and Murcow off.
In part, killing Roe means that it is no longer a big criteria in senate races proposing to save the ruling anymore. The issue has returned to the states.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 06:03 PM (WDjG6)
To me, he looks like the 8th grader running for GO president promising the kids cheerleaders and soda machines.
Posted by: Ancient Hippie at December 05, 2025 06:04 PM (oftw2)
79
It confirms that accusations of "racism" have become a key weapon in the armory of the duplicitous.
.......
So only people of color committed these crimes?
Interesting.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:02 PM (v0R5T)
They sometimes plug in a new term - homophobia, trans genocide....the only one with power is 'racist'.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:04 PM (8avO+)
80 And now Elon is promising the second shoe is about to drop: AI-driven abundance will make money as "free" as sex became in the 1970s.
Powered by perpetual motion machines.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2025 06:04 PM (pkeXY)
81
Knee socks, hand jive and hair gel. That's presidential material for you.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:04 PM (v0R5T)
82
How does this society with free money work? Can anybody buy anything? Does everyone get a mansion and airplane?
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 06:04 PM (vFG9F)
83
Forget the trillions of dollars stolen -- how many needless deaths does the Racism, Inc. scam cost us?
All of them
If Republicans would put on their big boy panties and point out the Ass Slapper had 16 arrest. The boy killer in Charlotte was involved in 3 murders.
Just call them out and NOTHING will happen.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 05, 2025 06:05 PM (gbOdA)
84
"If you don't keep giving us money, we will call you a racist!" Somali Criminal
"Here is a video of you feeding 206 children breakfast every day for a week. Apparently, they all eat breakfast in the bathroom because they never set foot in the 'feeding facility' for the entire week we filmed." Minnesota official with the balls to actually investigate. (Theoretical, apparently)
If they threaten you, GET PROOF and then call them out! If they did not investigate, they did not want to REALLY find out!
Posted by: JB1000 at December 05, 2025 06:05 PM (HJAV5)
85
76 Because Trump got the FNM to pounce on him calling Tim Walz retarded way more of the country knows about the Somali fraud in Minnesota. Trump has still got the ability to get the FNM to jump at that laser dot and talk about things they were going to smother. I hope it opens more LIVs eyes.
Posted by: PaleRider
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Nice insight and I agree.
Somalian fraud also upsets the other ethnic groups as they think of government cheese as their birthright and giving new grifters part of their stash is simply not on.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 06:05 PM (WDjG6)
86
Every company outside mom and pop shops have em.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:02 PM (8avO+)
This. HR is usually at the heart of this. It is necessary, but in many cases takes the company over and remakes it in whomever image.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:05 PM (zZu0s)
87 'Tard of the week was ginger Harry going on a late night show nobody watches trying to provoke Our President and getting boos from the leftist live audience. Then begging publicly for some kind of acting job.
Life has to be difficult when you're universally despised.
Posted by: Auspex at December 05, 2025 06:06 PM (Y8DZL)
88
>>Heather Heying's observation is brutal: young women especially began treating ideologies the exact way evolution wired them to treat babies. Climate change, social justice, whatever the cause of the month is -- it gets defended with literal mama-bear ferocity, the same neurochemistry that once guarded a toddler from predators now guards an abstract idea from wrong think.
This is a fascinating incite and so true.
Or alternatively....
We're f**ked, proper f**ked.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2025 06:01 PM (XV/Pl)
ironic that the proverbial woman with 10 cats is more sane than the girlbosses of today. At least the cats will love them until naptime.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:06 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 06:06 PM (Ia/+0)
91
What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?"
Sounds like it's 1450 again...
Posted by: man
So
You read my book about Christopher Columbus
Posted by: Samuel Eliot Miklos-Morrison, noting that the Drinking Lamp has been lit for hours already at December 05, 2025 06:06 PM (N7hqt)
92
Islam is an ideology, not a race. Why is rejecting that ideology racist?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 05, 2025 06:07 PM (8CIFn)
93
I liked it better when it was called Personnel and all they did was make sure you had your W-4 filled out correctly.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:07 PM (jc0TO)
94
If Republicans would put on their big boy panties and point out the Ass Slapper had 16 arrest. The boy killer in Charlotte was involved in 3 murders.
Just call them out and NOTHING will happen.
Posted by: r hennigantx
Actually NC state leg did something. Irnya's law pretty much puts judges in a cage now regarding sentencing and bail. Forced the D governor to reluctantly sign the bill or his veto would have probably been overridden.
Saw that a recent violent murderous asshole with a lengthy record in Charlotte ended up having to stay in jail because under the new provisions, he could not be bailed out. Judge's discretion to do stupid home detention etc. no longer could be done.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 06:08 PM (WDjG6)
Stuart Somali
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 06:06 PM (/iMjX)
Holy cow! Ha!
I say again: HA!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 05, 2025 06:08 PM (0aYVJ)
97
He is claiming that calling him a retard is "dangerous" and incites violence.
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Mebbe he prefers groomer or pedo instead.
Posted by: whig
......
How about 'Fatty'?
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:08 PM (v0R5T)
98
I worked at a truck line once and I swear there was a Personnel Manager and two secretaries, one of whom was a notary. That was it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:08 PM (jc0TO)
99
Yeah, even blue-collar jobs will start disappearing once they can make the robots to replace them.
That's several years away, but it's coming, too.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 06:08 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 05, 2025 06:09 PM (wBaIH)
101
How does this society with free money work? Can anybody buy anything? Does everyone get a mansion and airplane?
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 06:04 PM (vFG9F)
desires are infinite, resources are finite.
Not everyone can have that house on the beach in peak season.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:09 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 06:09 PM (viF8m)
103
I liked it better when it was called Personnel and all they did was make sure you had your W-4 filled out correctly.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:07 PM (jc0TO)
In many cases, they have far more power than anyone else in the company. I put most of the wokification of companies down to zealous HR folks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:09 PM (zZu0s)
104
How about 'Fatty'?
Posted by: wth
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Meh, would matter for a women but there is a weird subculture of gay men that consider them as bears and thus desirable.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 06:10 PM (WDjG6)
Mocking Walz is like beating up a retard. Though, be mindful of his retard strength.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 05, 2025 06:10 PM (w6S0H)
106
Is being a retard dangerous? I mean apart from the dangers associated with playing in traffic.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 05, 2025 06:10 PM (8CIFn)
107
I also worked at a tech-ish firm in the 1980s and I don't even know if we had a personnel department. I have no recollection of where their office was on campus, assuming we had one.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:10 PM (jc0TO)
108
I liked it better when it was called Personnel and all they did was make sure you had your W-4 filled out correctly.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:07 PM (jc0TO)
No Human Resource Department ever dug one up in a mine somewhere.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:11 PM (8avO+)
109
Walz, you have to be a important to invoke lese-majeste.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:11 PM (zZu0s)
110
Yeah, even blue-collar jobs will start disappearing once they can make the robots to replace them.
Robo-Rooter
Posted by: Miklos eyes decreasing employment prospects at December 05, 2025 06:12 PM (N7hqt)
111Governor Tim Walz asks you to stop calling him "retarded", saying it might "incite vioIence"
Maybe, but it makes you a shoo-in if you apply to Harvard.
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2025 06:12 PM (XFXIk)
112
>>How does this society with free money work? Can anybody buy anything? Does everyone get a mansion and airplane?
And a baby's arm holding an apple.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Miklos eyes decreasing employment prospects at December 05, 2025 06:12 PM (N7hqt)
Roomba
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (6ydKt)
114 Great. Now Youtube thinks I'm a huge T'Pau fan.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (cPNKV)
115
In many cases, they have far more power than anyone else in the company. I put most of the wokification of companies down to zealous HR folks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:09 PM (zZu0s)
The other purpose is to have gals to drink the wine on tap in the office and go out to 'team building' meetings after hours with the dudes there.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (8avO+)
116
And a baby's arm holding an apple.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (viF8m)
*snort*
What do you want a babys arm holding an apple for, Jack?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:14 PM (zZu0s)
117
Even the state itself can now be cowed by mere whispers of the r-word.
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The SCOTUS ruling that's about to come regarding minority-majority districts is going to gut that grift.
Because it'll cut out the only leg of the racism scam: That the cry must be accepted as true.
That's what they said yesterday in the TX ruling:
You can't claim racism just because minority races are negatively impacted.
Oh, and having a DOJ that don't give a F about cries of racism for at least the next 3 years ...
And a President they inoculated against such because of the egregious accusations for the last 8 years.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2025 06:14 PM (HXT0k)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 05, 2025 06:14 PM (wBaIH)
119
And now Elon is promising the second shoe is about to drop: AI-driven abundance will make money as "free" as sex became in the 1970s. "
I got news for Elon and anyone else who believes this pipe dream: it ain't gonna happen that way. There won't be any Star Trek dream world where everyone has everything they want just because they want it. Nope.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2025 06:14 PM (uWKK8)
120 I'm still laughing at my own joke from yesterday:
What do you call a hot 16 year old Vulcan girl?
...
T'Rap
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:14 PM (cPNKV)
121
16
'Inciting violence on Walz is all I want for Christmas.
Well, one of the things. Not the only. There are others I want violence to visit.'
I agree. I want these bastards to finally get what they deserve.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2025 06:15 PM (fd80v)
122
The other purpose is to have gals to drink the wine on tap in the office and go out to 'team building' meetings after hours with the dudes there.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (8avO+)
Case in point: HR gal and that CEO. Both cheating on their spouses. He lost everything, she kept everything.
Fucking hell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:15 PM (zZu0s)
123
Walz, you have to be a important to invoke lese-majeste.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:11 PM (zZu0s)
Funny how he didn't think that cheering on Trump's assassination was fine and dandy.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)
It's Critical Everything Theory. Every single damn thing you can think of, and some things they just flat out made up, are now Isms you can crush your enemies with and bring them to heel with the full force of the state. (Bludgeonspeak.... such a timely neologism, that....) The racism aspect is really irrelevant. It's a coat of paint on a nation-scale personality disorder.
"We're Good. Anything that even hints at being against us is Bad." And everything is the moral equivalent of War except for war, which is ... i don't know... Zionist, or Colonialist, or something, whatever.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 06:15 PM (06Hmj)
125
Weinstein's ice-cold question: When producing and protecting actual children is no longer the central organizing principle of adult life... and when creating wealth is no longer required for status, security, or attracting a mate...What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?
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Children of Men.
People stopped having children because they just ... didn't want real children.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2025 06:16 PM (HXT0k)
Only when the voice controls involve Spanish or perhaps Nahuatl.
A more authentic human-like interaction.
Posted by: El Mikloso, actual Charter Member of the Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies at December 05, 2025 06:16 PM (N7hqt)
128
I think the younger generation won't give the accusation of "racism" the time of day anymore. You should see some of the chat groups I'm in on Instagram with friends and people I don't even know that pass around content that the left would surely say is "racist" or "racially insensitive".
The youngest in the groups are the ones sending the ones that even get me saying "whoa thats... thats pretty bad".
Posted by: Defenestratus
My kid and middle school friends were mocking it eight years ago.
When driving them somewhere they a dead raccoon on the side of the road,
OMG, that is sooo racist!
Howells of laughter from them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 05, 2025 06:16 PM (/lPRQ)
129
The other purpose is to have gals to drink the wine on tap in the office and go out to 'team building' meetings after hours with the dudes there.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (8avO+)
Case in point: HR gal and that CEO. Both cheating on their spouses. He lost everything, she kept everything.
Fucking hell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:15 PM (zZu0s)
That's evolution in action. Men have to recognize a high threat environment and act like it.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:16 PM (8avO+)
130
Your kitchen machine won't make Earl Gray, Hot out of a bunch of molecules like a printer
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 06:17 PM (Ia/+0)
131
Great. Now Youtube thinks I'm a huge T'Pau fan.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:13 PM (cPNKV)
====
What's the problem? She is much revered.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 05, 2025 06:17 PM (WGeqj)
A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision
We'll be clean when their work is done
We'll be eternally free yes and eternally young
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2025 06:17 PM (pkeXY)
133
I will not play the racist game nor the gender game. I will speak the truth in love. I am not responsible for other’s hurt feelings. I will not have my intelligence insulted.
Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2025 06:17 PM (i+bC1)
134
Telling how old I am, the first place I had a computer job didn't even have Personnel. They just had Payroll.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:18 PM (jc0TO)
135
she a thief
well she needs to feed her kids
he sells drugs
well black kids need spending money
he shot at a teacher
our community has different conflict rules
he killed a fellow student
sometimes neighborhood issue are brought to school
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 05, 2025 06:18 PM (gbOdA)
136
My kid and middle school friends were mocking it eight years ago.
When driving them somewhere they a dead raccoon on the side of the road,
OMG, that is sooo racist!
Howells of laughter from them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 05, 2025 06:16 PM (/lPRQ)
Anything a society makes Taboo is automatically going to the thing that the next generation thinks is the coolest and funniest thing in the world.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2025 06:18 PM (uWKK8)
137
What's the problem? She is much revered.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 05, 2025 06:17 PM (WGeqj)
She's not even the third Hottest chick in star trek history.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:19 PM (zZu0s)
138
One good thing about AI replacing a whole lot of jobs - let's hope that it replaces all of the HR departments first.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2025 06:19 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: The Priests of the Temples of Syrinx at December 05, 2025 06:19 PM (Dh8nQ)
140
Assistant AG Harmeet Dhillon found out that over 260,000 DEAD PEOPLE and THOUSANDS of noncitizens or illegals are confirmed to be registered to vote in the U.S.
Add a ZERO and 4 X
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 05, 2025 06:20 PM (gbOdA)
141
Weinstein's ice-cold question: When producing and protecting actual children is no longer the central organizing principle of adult life... and when creating wealth is no longer required for status, security, or attracting a mate...What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?
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Children of Men.
People stopped having children because they just ... didn't want real children.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2025 06:16 PM (HXT0k)
One interesting thing even in ancient times is city folk just don't have kids, even the rich ones. Especially the rich ones, rather. You can read about Caesar Augustus railing about people not having enough kids in 0 AD. Once the farm areas stopped having free farmers with large families to replace them things got dicey and the action moved to the provinces.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:20 PM (8avO+)
142
The quote of Walz whining that calling him retarded might incite violence is just so funny. HOW Walz, are you going to snap and attack someone for saying it? They are driving by in their cars, I don't think there is a serious risk of you being able to punch them. Are your supporters going to get so worked up that they punch out someone calling you a retard? I can't imagine anyone actually supporting Walz, I expect the FNM got folks fired up to vote against his opponent like they normally do for their commie brethen.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2025 06:21 PM (hhkIi)
143
Assistant AG Harmeet Dhillon found out that over 260,000 DEAD PEOPLE and THOUSANDS of noncitizens or illegals are confirmed to be registered to vote in the U.S.
Add a ZERO and 4 X
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 05, 2025 06:20 PM (gbOdA)
A couple of counties here in LA area struck a million or so off the rolls a few years back.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:21 PM (8avO+)
144
I got news for Elon and anyone else who believes this pipe dream: it ain't gonna happen that way. There won't be any Star Trek dream world where everyone has everything they want just because they want it. Nope.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2025 06:14 PM (uWKK ====
My replicator says otherwise.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 05, 2025 06:21 PM (WGeqj)
10 yr old video of some european jerkoff putting a camera on his trained Eagle:
https://is.gd/AzKSG9
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:21 PM (cPNKV)
146
Cheating was also rampant in Rome. Decadence is a thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:21 PM (zZu0s)
147
"He is claiming that calling him a retard is "dangerous" and incites violence."
Only if the shoe fits...
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 06:22 PM (gDhA9)
148
I always enjoy Movie Night with my Somali friends watching Black Hawk Down...
Posted by: Tim Walz at December 05, 2025 06:22 PM (J9q9v)
149
Omg. That Walz video is going to get me fired.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 06:22 PM (W2Pud)
150
HOLY CRAP! It was just revealed that the Somali Minnesota fraud might end up toward $8 BILLION DOLLARS, not just $1 billion
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 05, 2025 06:22 PM (gbOdA)
151 Wouldn't that be a Vulcan ladyboy?
Posted by: SpeakingOf
hmmm, that could work, too
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (cPNKV)
152
Anything a society makes Taboo is automatically going to the thing that the next generation thinks is the coolest and funniest thing in the world.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2025 06:18 PM (uWKK
Also, our "Taboos" are laughably weak. Some tut tutting by ugly chicks on television or at your school... getting fired from a job you bitterly despise and were going to quit anyway... BFD.
Actual Taboo is more along the lines of "oh shit one of the Emperor's henchmen is disembowling the entire village now because of some shit I said last week". Actual Taboo makes people physically kick the crap out of you for even suggesting you might go against it, lest they have to suffer for your bullshit.
Those are the Taboos that have sticking power.
And i'm like 55% sure that Taboos is not the correct plural of Taboo, but I also don't really care.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (06Hmj)
153
I don't know how Waltz can preside over such a titanic fraud scandal and not expect some name calling.
Retard is certainly better than the other names I was thinking of....
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (gDhA9)
154
Is there anyone in Rome who has not slept with my daughter?
Posted by: Octavian Augustus at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (jc0TO)
155
The Left would deploy the racism, Islamphobe, transphode, hater, -something-ist diatribe against the Right and they'd automatically FOLD.
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There's the usual R response: I have black friends/I supported a black/ etc.
And Trump: Black people love me, I have the best numbers of any Republican.
And watching the left sputter:
The first is an admission you might be racist.
The second is calling the accuser a racist and a liar.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (HXT0k)
156
My one thought - if we live in an abundance "cost is no object" world, then having more kids is terrific.
Having kids was the best thing I ever did.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 06:24 PM (gDhA9)
157
I think Walz should just sit in a lawn chair in his front yard with a big sign:
I AM NOT A RETARD
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:25 PM (v0R5T)
158
So, it turns out the Jan 6 Pipe Bomber was a White Man of Color !!!!!!
Posted by: Jackson at December 05, 2025 06:25 PM (J9q9v)
159
Walz rambles like someone with a severe case of encephalitis.
Fucking mosquitos jacked his brain.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 05, 2025 06:25 PM (w6S0H)
160
I always enjoy Movie Night with my Somali friends watching Black Hawk Down...
Posted by: Tim Walz at December 05, 2025 06:22 PM (J9q9v)
There's a YT trend of having foreign girls (and men) rate US stuff. It has spread to movies and one group of Vietnamese girls watched Tropic Thunder and they all cheered when 'their side' attacked the good guys. It was pretty funny.
When they watched 'Its a Wonderful Life' they were super weepy. Very cute in their Santa Suits.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:25 PM (8avO+)
161
Is there anyone in Rome who has not slept with my daughter?
Posted by: Octavian Augustus at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (jc0TO)
And that was after she had something like 6 kids with Agrippa.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (zZu0s)
162
Paging Br Mengele:
Doctors have admitted to performing 'non-standard' gender-affirming procedures on youngsters and sometimes base treatment purely on cosmetic goals — as they see a spike in patients seeking out 'nonbinary' surgeries.
... One social worker from Oregon once described how an 18-year-old high school graduate wanted to look like 'a Barbie down there.'
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (gbOdA)
163
There comes a time in a man's life when he asks himself, 'who will float my corpse down the Ganges?'
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (DoBxX)
165
My one thought - if we live in an abundance "cost is no object" world, then having more kids is terrific.
Having kids was the best thing I ever did.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 06:24 PM (gDhA9)
Well Elon isn't being a laggard in that department.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (8avO+)
166
In 2023, 1 in 3 subsidy recipients—$21B total—used Social Security numbers that didn’t match IRS records.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (gbOdA)
167
A Cowboy a Muslim and an Indian walk into a bar.
The Indian says, "We were once many now we are few."
The Muslim says, " We were once few but now are many."
The Cowboy says "Yea. We haven't played Cowboys and Muslims yet."
I'll show myself out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2025 06:27 PM (VE6XX)
169
I don't really buy that "oh we were scared of being called racist". Its a handy excuse for being too lazy to do the hard part of your job and do a bit of legwork to verify those groups were feeding kids.
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That and the kickbacks.
I think, when this all gets unraveled, that we're going to be un-surprised at just how much was knowingly--on both sides-- sent to Democrats.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2025 06:27 PM (HXT0k)
170
In whining about being called retarded, Walz has gone full retard.
Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at December 05, 2025 06:28 PM (Q+gd/)
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 06:31 PM (cPNKV)
177
I think Walz should just sit in a lawn chair in his front yard with a big sign:
I AM NOT A RETARD
Posted by: wth
Letting a bunch of illiterate Somalis take him/his state for 8 billion kind of confirms he is.
Posted by: old chick at December 05, 2025 06:31 PM (F3Dlr)
178
It would be great if a reporter at a press conference asked Walz, "Governor, your shirt buttons are not lined up correctly. Are your staff proud that you dressed yourself?"
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 06:31 PM (/iMjX)
179
"It was just revealed that the Somali Minnesota fraud might end up toward $8 BILLION DOLLARS, not just $1 billion
Posted by: r hennigantx"
If they admit 8 then it's at least twice that.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 06:31 PM (vFG9F)
180
Is there anyone in Rome who has not slept with my daughter?
Posted by: Octavian Augustus at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (jc0TO)
And that was after she had something like 6 kids with Agrippa.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (zZu0s)
Five children. Germanicus had 9 children in the next generation.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 06:31 PM (8avO+)
183
LOL, and just so you know, some areas figured out a long time ago how you get past cries of racism:
You just hire a bunch of black assholes to do the job.
Is it kinda sorta racist to say that no one is more willing to beat down a black man than a well-paid black man?
Not really; wasn't that a quote of Malcolm X?
Anyway, there's always a solution.
There's just a lack of will to solve the problem.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (HXT0k)
184
Hey Timmy..... Retard,retard,retard
Posted by: It's me donna
.....
it would be fun to borrow one of those Mexican guys car with the loudspeaker on the roof and drive by his house playing that on a loop.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (v0R5T)
185
... One social worker from Oregon once described how an 18-year-old high school graduate wanted to look like 'a Barbie down there.'
Posted by: r hennigantx
Like Mr. Smooth in "Happy".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 05, 2025 06:33 PM (/lPRQ)
Hell, a herd of Winnebagos, we're giving them away.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 06:35 PM (viF8m)
187
Anything a society makes Taboo is automatically going to the thing that the next generation thinks is the coolest and funniest thing in the world.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2025 06:18 PM (uWKK
Also, our "Taboos" are laughably weak. Some tut tutting by ugly chicks on television or at your school... getting fired from a job you bitterly despise and were going to quit anyway... BFD.
Actual Taboo is more along the lines of "oh shit one of the Emperor's henchmen is disembowling the entire village now because of some shit I said last week". Actual Taboo makes people physically kick the crap out of you for even suggesting you might go against it, lest they have to suffer for your bullshit.
Those are the Taboos that have sticking power.
And i'm like 55% sure that Taboos is not the correct plural of Taboo, but I also don't really care.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 06:23 PM (06Hmj)
Let's ask Emmanuelle. She's on Taboo Island (1976)
Boom Chicka Wow-Wow!
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 05, 2025 06:37 PM (wVcYX)
188
125
'What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?'
Destroying enemies.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2025 06:40 PM (fd80v)
189
> it would be fun to borrow one of those Mexican guys car with the loudspeaker on the roof and drive by his house playing that on a loop.
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I'd park about a dozen remote loudspeaker around his property.
Set to go off at random intervals so they'd be harder to locate.
"retard" "fucking retard" "retard" 24X7
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2025 06:42 PM (NwnyJ)
190
It's not a great idea to provide infinite resources. We can't handle it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
Posted by: Joker of Clubs at December 05, 2025 06:47 PM (JmRgc)
191
Tim Walz,
From the Planet Retardia
With Powers and Abilities
Far Below those of Mortal Men!
(I stole that from a moron here - don't remember who and I don't care, 'cause I'm a retard)
Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at December 05, 2025 06:51 PM (Vpqw1)
192
'What is left to give a human life direction, meaning, and structure?'
I don't know. Nor do I know where I will be buy then but I won't smell too good, that's for sure.
Posted by: javems at December 05, 2025 06:59 PM (8I4hW)
193
I've decided I will now just nerd out on 3D Printing, Day Trading, programming projects and pretty much check out of the larger culture.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2025 08:16 PM (XV/Pl)
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I am not saying the racism charge can't be used to intimidate people. What I am claiming is that in this case there's no way that is what happened. The people in charge wanted that money out the door and they use the "fear" of being called racist to justify not looking too closely at the fraud. We know for a fact if a minority does not have the right politics they have no fear of racism and go all out to screw them over in any which way they can. This is about making the white people who allowed this to happen look like victims instead of the accomplices they are. Tim Walz & crew didn't allow this to happen because they were afraid of being called racist. "The fear of racism" is the cover story.
Posted by: blkemoji at December 05, 2025 09:31 PM (7a4RG)
Quick Hits
A liberal grand jury has refused to indict Big Tish James for her obvious, blatant mortgage fraud.
A leftwing judge dismissed the first indictment, claiming that the prosecutor was illegally appointed.
Another prosecutor brought the charges to a new grand jury.
Now that the left has made Big Tish a cause celebré, they're determined that she should go unpunished.
A federal grand jury in Virginia refused Thursday to bring charges against New York Attorney General Letitia James, shutting down -- at least for now -- the Justice Department's revived attempt to prosecute her over mortgage fraud allegations. According to sources familiar with the closed-door proceedings, prosecutors empaneled a new jury to review revised charges, only to have them tossed a second time.
James, 67, had previously been hit with two felony counts for alleged bank fraud and submitting false statements tied to a six-figure loan she secured in 2020 to buy a second home in Norfolk. She has repeatedly dismissed the accusations as political and baseless. In a Thursday statement, James thanked the jurors, adding she was "humbled by the support I have received from across the country" and would continue "standing up for the rule of law and the people of New York."
The first indictment -- returned Oct. 9 in Alexandria -- never got off the ground. On Nov. 24, U.S. District Judge Cameron Currie threw it out entirely, ruling that acting U.S. Attorney Lindsey Halligan was improperly appointed and had "no lawful authority" to bring charges in the first place. The decision blindsided DOJ leadership, prompting Attorney General Pam Bondi to announce that the department would pursue "all available legal action, including an immediate appeal." Bondi also vowed to challenge separate lying-to-Congress and obstruction counts against former FBI Director James Comey, which prosecutors have six months to revise or refile.
That six-month window applies here as well. Because the judge dismissed James's case without prejudice, prosecutors could return with yet another indictment -- though Thursday's outcome makes that path steeper. Abbe Lowell, the high-profile Democrat attorney representing James, told CNN the decision "should be the end of this case," claiming that continued pursuit after a judge's ruling and a grand jury's rejection would be a "shocking assault on the rule of law and a devastating blow to the integrity of our justice system."
Note that no one is reporting the grand jury is liberal. I make this assertion based on the fact that it sits in one of the most liberal areas of the country -- northern coastal Virginia, where all the leftwing federal bureaucrats live, the reason that former Confederate state Virginia is now as blue as Brian Stelter's withered balls -- and that they rejected a slam-dunk indictment. Only a political jury nullification can explain this.
In better legal news, an appeals court has reversed a Lowly Lawless District Court judge who blocked Trump's firing of an "independent" board member, claiming the Executive cannot fire Executive branch employees. By 2-1, the three judge appeals panel asserted that yes, the Executive, get this, has power over the employees of the Executive Branch.
The Supreme Court will probably finally overrule the bad decision in the Humprhey's Executor case that claimed the President cannot fire his subordinates. The Supreme Court has largely hollowed that ruling out by finding exceptions her and exceptions there; they may now take the necessary step of just wiping this bad precedent off the books.
Warner Bros. has been up for sale for a while. Skydance/Paramount tried to buy it, but their offer was rejected.
Now Netflix has bought Warner Bros., further consolodating the media into a few left-wing hands.
Netflix
@netflix
4h
Today, Netflix announced our acquisition of Warner Bros. Together, we'll define the next century of storytelling, creating an extraordinary entertainment offering for audiences everywhere.
On Black Friday, there was an offer for 12 months of HBO Max for $3/month. I said "what the heck" and signed up, mostly for the very big library of older movies that HBO offers. Those are all (or mostly) Warner Bros. movies. I wonder if this deal will wind up taking those older movies off of HBO's servers to save them for Netflix.
Amusing... but Warner Bros. was already doing this. In their very unnecessary Harry Potter remake series -- commissioned purely to exploit Warner Bros' existing IP and get Warner/Discovery a little bit closer to solvent -- they already announced that Hermoine and Snape would be black.
Under pressure from the FCC, AT&T says it's abandoning illegal DEI race discrimination.
The move follows years of controversy, much of it fueled by revelations that AT&T's internal training materials pushed the notion that racism was a "uniquely white trait" and urged white employees to accept blame as part of a broader critical-race-theory framework. Those claims first surfaced in 2021 through documents obtained by researcher Christopher Rufo, who reported that the company's curriculum told white staffers they "are the problem." The backlash never fully subsided -- and with Carr signaling that companies seeking key FCC licenses would need to demonstrate they are not running discriminatory programs, the pressure point became impossible for AT&T to ignore.
In a letter sent Monday to Carr, AT&T Senior Executive Vice President and General Counsel David McAtee said the company has overhauled its employment and business practices "to ensure compliance with all applicable laws," emphasizing that the changes would be substantive, not cosmetic. According to AT&T, that means no hiring quotas, no supplier-contract quotas, no race-based training, and no positions devoted to policing identity-based metrics. DEI courses have been stripped from employee requirements, and the company says it will not resurrect them.
We'll see if they just continue the illegal race and sex discrimination under a different name.
Eric S. Raymond
@esrtweet
I'm coining a term today: "bludgeonspeak".
Bludgeonspeak is the use of invented terminology, or historical terminology that has been hijacked and corrupted, and then emptied of all meaning except as an attempt at moral blackmail.
Here are some notable bludgeonspeak items in 2025: "racist", "fascist", "homophobe", "transphobe", "islamophobe", "far-right". Also, the term "genocide" might not be quite there yet, but it's being pushed in that direction pretty hard.
Some bludgeonspeak terms, like "fascist" and "racist" and "genocide", used to have substantive meanings which have been destroyed by persistent abuse. It may be appropriate to recognize and use those meanings if you are reading or writing or speaking about history.
Others, like "homophobe", "transphobe", and "islamophobe", were bludgeonspeak from birth. There are no circumstances in which these have substantive meaning, and it is unwise to treat them as though they do.
The only way to win is not to play. When somebody throws bludgeonspeak at you, call it out. State that you will not be controlled by their language, and you refuse to be assigned to a category you reject.
The key thing that people who employ bludgeonspeak don't want you to grasp is that these words only have the power over you that you allow them.
Once a term has been generally recognized as bludgeonspeak, it not only loses its power as direct moral blackmail, it can no longer be used as a social attack.
So: learn to recognize bludgeonspeak. Shut down the people who use it by refusing to give it power. And educate other people about this manipulation tactic, so that they too can reject it.
You can prevent semantic manipulation. All it takes is the will to do so.
This must hurt: Because Trump pardoned a pair of J6 non-insurrectionists, they're entitled to have the money they paid for restitution and fines given back to them.
The judge forced to order their restoration of funds is the corrupt, highly-impeachable rogue Judge Boasberg.
U.S. District Judge James Boasberg has ordered that a couple pardoned by President Trump for their convictions regarding the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot be refunded their restitution payments and fines, reversing his earlier decision.
On Wednesday, Boasberg ruled that because of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals decision, Cynthia Ballenger and her husband, Christopher Price, are to be refunded the $570 each in restitution payments and other fees paid as a part of their convictions, Fox News reported.
Gavin Newsom is shielding the killer of an 11-year-old boy from deportation.
ICE announced Tuesday that it lodged an immigration detainer with the San Diego Sheriff's Office for 44-year-old criminal Mexican national Hector Balderas-Aheelor after he was arrested for a felony hit-and-run that killed 11-year-old Aiden Antonio Torres De Paz a day before Thanksgiving. The DHS' press release said the arrest detainer would not be honored because California is a sanctuary state.
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Newsom's press office responded in a post calling the allegation a "complete lie."
"As we have repeatedly said: The state coordinates with ICE on the deportation of convicted criminals. California honors federal criminal warrants. Nothing prohibits the federal government from doing its job in this case," the post states.
Just over an hour later, DHS responded in a follow-up tweet claiming the governor's office was "playing word games to keep an illegal alien murderer in America."
"California REJECTED the ICE detainer for an illegal alien charged with killing an 11-year-old boy. Gavin Newsom says he'll only cooperate with ICE if the criminal illegal alien is CONVICTED, meaning California will let him roam free even though he's been arrested for FELONY hit-and-run," the department wrote.
Along with its criticism, DHS included a cropped picture of an immigration detainer's rejection on Sunday, with a note reading, "No qualifying criminal history, however current charge would qualify upon conviction with a new 1247 from ICE."
Following publication, the department provided the Daily Caller News Foundation with the full filing, with Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin issuing a statement calling out Newsom and the state's politicians.
"The sanctuary politicians of California and Governor Newsom once again REFUSED to protect the safety and security of American families," McLaughlin told the DCNF. "It's despicable that our ICE arrest detainer of a criminal illegal alien who killed an 11-year-old boy would be rejected. When will Governor Newsom and his fellow sanctuary politicians stop releasing criminals into our neighborhoods and putting American lives at risk?"
The left has new book out about the sacrament of killing an unborn child: Abortion is Everything.
The book isn't intended for 21 year old women already on their third abortion.
It's intended for 5-to-8 year olds.
Get 'em while they're young.
The Shout Your Abortion IG post celebrates this book as a way to “normalize” abortion for children in kindergarten through 2nd grade.
But why even introduce such a violent, adult topic to kids who still sleep with stuffed animals and ask for night lights?
The official book description proudly states:
"Abortion Is Everything speaks directly to five to eight-year-olds about what abortion is, how it might feel, and why people have abortions. With accessible, inclusive language, Abortion Is Everything frames abortion as the actualization of a uniquely human superpower: our capacity to imagine the future and make choices that lead us towards the life we envision. Abortion is a tool that allows human beings to shape our destinies, and which has shaped the entire world around us."
She has mostly been spared the embarrassment of this performance by mainstream coverage. But it should be clowned on bc it’s very dumb that she put on a Nudie Suit and sang Dolly on the last night of the campaign after being caught on tape saying she hates country music. And you… https://t.co/NSYRsI9rNS
"I would have liked this if it had another name," is never, ever persuasive to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)
I wouldn't have liked it anyway.
As I said before, it's an incoherent mess. I like Guy Richie in general but sometimes, he's awful.
"Revolver" and "Swept Away" are great examples of that.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 04:36 PM (iJfKG)
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Why not just re-release the Pre-Persons as a children's book?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2025 04:36 PM (emBoF)
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If your a Leftist doing crime stay in a Leftist area
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 04:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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I've had a lot of willows today, but this one is relevant to the post.
I will never understand the need for adaptations, especially adaptations of 1000 year old legends that have been morphed and changed more times than can be counted, to be "accurate". Accurate to what?
Netflix has a new adaptation of Beowulf. I got excited until I saw the picture accompanying the description. It, of course, had a black warrior. Now, I have nothing against a black warrior in an appropriate setting, but I'm gonna guess that they were not exactly common in the Beowulf setting, and that tells me what I need to know about the show.
Next.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 04:37 PM (Riz8t)
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Hmm. Tucker didn't announce he would be in Qatar until the last moment.
Why the delay?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 04:37 PM (iK7NX)
15
The left has new book out about the sacrament of killing an unborn child: Abortion is Everything.
The book isn't intended for 21 year old women already on their third abortion.
It's intended for 5-to-8 year olds.
They make trans, fag, and drag books for ages 2 and up, so I am about as unsurprised as can be.
Posted by: The ones they don't kill they'll neuter at December 05, 2025 04:37 PM (TbWk/)
Mace Nightstick batted second, after Waddy Staff's single, and hammered a triple over the head of Beetle Whangee in right field.
Posted by: gp at December 05, 2025 04:38 PM (GHIyr)
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13 Netflix has a new adaptation of Beowulf. I got excited until I saw the picture accompanying the description. It, of course, had a black warrior. Now, I have nothing against a black warrior in an appropriate setting, but I'm gonna guess that they were not exactly common in the Beowulf setting, and that tells me what I need to know about the show.
Next.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 04:37 PM (Riz8t)
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No one will top Zemeckis' version anyway.
But original Netflix content largely doesn't interest me.
Posted by: Jake Tapper at December 05, 2025 04:38 PM (thvln)
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I just sent out designs - supposed to be in for review by Friday and this is CLOSE ENOUGH
how do I get one of them email jerbs where I just hang out emailing and going on zoom all day
instead I fight with Adobe and Figma
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2025 04:38 PM (emBoF)
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The judge forced to order their restoration of funds is the corrupt, highly-impeachable rogue Judge Boasberg
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is Boasberg em-peached yet ??
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 04:38 PM (g47mK)
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If you want to punish Tish James, make her eat a salad.
Posted by: Vengeance at December 05, 2025 04:38 PM (vbdXu)
22
Re the Arthurian discussion on the last thread:
Has an Arthurian adaptation ever been done where Arthur actually fights the Anglo-Saxons and defeats them at the Battle of Badon? Because that might be the closest to a historical Arthur, assuming he existed (and I think he did in some form following the Roman withdrawal from Britain).
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)
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Nothing quite as sick as talking to five year old girls about how their mother could have legally killed them.
I foresee much pain in their future.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:39 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2025 04:40 PM (emBoF)
27
When will Governor Newsom and his fellow sanctuary politicians stop releasing criminals into our neighborhoods and putting American lives at risk?"
.....
I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may incriminate me.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 04:41 PM (v0R5T)
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22 Re the Arthurian discussion on the last thread:
Has an Arthurian adaptation ever been done where Arthur actually fights the Anglo-Saxons and defeats them at the Battle of Badon? Because that might be the closest to a historical Arthur, assuming he existed (and I think he did in some form following the Roman withdrawal from Britain).
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)
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The mid-2000s one was close to that, but it was set around Hadrian's Wall not near Birmingham and Badon Hill.
Laura Loomer (on X)
"One of the people who @TuckerCarlson invited to his Alp Christmas party last night is @ThugnastyMMA Bryce Mitchell.
Earlier this year, Bryce said, “I honestly think that Hitler was a good guy based on my own research…. he fought for his country and wanted to purify it by kicking out all the greedy Jews.”
This prompted @danawhite to disavow Mitchell, even though he said Mitchell has a right to free speech.
Tucker continues to tell us that he’s “just asking questions” and he doesn’t hate Jews.
Interesting guest list…"
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 04:43 PM (g47mK)
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Wow, that abortion book is revolting.
Thanks Ace for bringing it to our attention, but what a disgusting and horrible time we live in.
>>Abortion is a tool that allows human beings to shape our destinies, and which has shaped the entire world around us."
It is a way for morally weak to play god. It is evil. Can it be any clearer than that statement?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 04:44 PM (1ZMNP)
37 Do You Like gay Toy Trains?
I cued it up to the end.
Here's some Big Loser setting up his stupid Toy Trains in a giant Christmassy scene:
https://is.gd/3Jw02K
Posted by: Soothsayer goes "Choo! Choo!" at December 05, 2025 04:44 PM (cPNKV)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 04:45 PM (1ZMNP)
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On Black Friday, there was an offer for 12 months of HBO Max for $3/month. I said "what the heck" and signed up, mostly for the very big library of older movies that HBO offers.
__________
It's worth $3/month for the older series alone. Deadwood, Sopranos, Rome, Larry Sanders. I've tried The Wire a couple of times, but never made it past a few episodes.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 05, 2025 04:45 PM (XvL8K)
Posted by: Sol Wachtler, Deli Owner at December 05, 2025 04:45 PM (R/m4+)
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The left has new book out about the sacrament of killing an unborn child: Abortion is Everything.
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This book will never, ever show up as a "guilty pleasure" on the Sunday Morning Book Thread so long as I have a say in the matter.
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The process is the punishment. I hope they hound her into old age
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 05, 2025 04:45 PM (4/TSN)
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Don't make me regret deciding not to snuff you, child.
Posted by: The Wine Mom at December 05, 2025 04:45 PM (BaF3z)
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Remember how everyone lost their shit when Trump observed that he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not affect his popularity? We now have obvious fraudsters going free because the districts where they are tried in cannot find an impartial jury...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (nbLIj)
45
Forget case somewhat but a Leftist Judge dismissed a jury case after they convinced the criminal, judge let that person off anyway
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (Ia/+0)
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I wouldn't take a payout to change my beliefs, and I am not a multi millionaire, like Carlson.
There is something wrong with Carlson, and others like him, who will sell their consciences.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (0U5gm)
Posted by: Soothsayer goes "Choo! Choo!" at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (cPNKV)
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Any godless, evil person who is involved in presenting that abortion book to children better get comfortable with a millstone around their neck and an eternity of pain from which there is no pardon or commutation.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (mJELX)
Laura Loomer (on X)
"One of the people who @TuckerCarlson invited to his Alp Christmas party last night is @ThugnastyMMA Bryce Mitchell.
Earlier this year, Bryce said, “I honestly think that Hitler was a good guy based on my own research…. he fought for his country and wanted to purify it by kicking out all the greedy Jews.”
This prompted @danawhite to disavow Mitchell, even though he said Mitchell has a right to free speech.
Tucker continues to tell us that he’s “just asking questions” and he doesn’t hate Jews.
Interesting guest list…"
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 04:43 PM (g47mK)
Well, yes, that happens when you try to kill ALL of them...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (ynpvh)
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So Tucker Carlson and Bill Burr are the same person?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (zZu0s)
51
Damn, Minnesota is a f*cked up state. From the top down.
How could they be so damn stupid? Lots of $$$$ wasted. May as well put a match to it.
Posted by: Case at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (5Je/N)
52Here's some Big Loser setting up his stupid Toy Trains in a giant Christmassy scene:
https://is.gd/3Jw02K
I dunno. I'm not a train guy but that is a pretty spectacular setup.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 05, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)
53Forget case somewhat but a Leftist Judge dismissed a jury case after they convinced the criminal, judge let that person off anyway
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM
Didn't that literally just happen in one of the Medicare fraud cases this week?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:47 PM (jc0TO)
54
Earlier this year, Bryce said, “I honestly think that Hitler was a good guy based on my own research…. he fought for his country and wanted to purify it by kicking out all the greedy Jews.”
Wtf do they find these people. It is like they called down to central casting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 04:48 PM (zZu0s)
55
The Necronomicon is Dr. Seuss by comparison.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Moss-covered, three-handled family abattoir
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:48 PM (77rzZ)
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The judiciary and poisoned political juries are the greatest threat to our republic. Justice is no longer blind nor balanced.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 05, 2025 04:48 PM (mJELX)
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is Boasberg em-peached yet ??
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 04:38 PM (g47mK)
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Oh my word no!
We have to show we can govern!
Posted by: Becky Cuthbertson-Klein, Locust Valley Republicans at December 05, 2025 04:48 PM (sF9Ts)
60 I wouldn't take a payout to change my beliefs, and I am not a multi millionaire, like Carlson.
There is something wrong with Carlson, and others like him, who will sell their consciences.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM
How much are we talking here?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:48 PM (jc0TO)
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I'm just going to assume there is a porn video titled Hairy Pooter. No need for confirmation please.
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (/iMjX)
62 Forget case somewhat but a Leftist Judge dismissed a jury case after they convinced the criminal, judge let that person off anyway
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM
Didn't that literally just happen in one of the Medicare fraud cases this week?
Posted by: toby928(c)
This place...
it's like being in an Alzheimers Ward...
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (cPNKV)
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If you had any doubt, the book is hardcore pro-abortion propaganda designed to appeal to little children
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The Leftist cancer in America is not going to be solved through voting harder.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (vSvIl)
65
Damn, Minnesota is a f*cked up state. From the top down.
How could they be so damn stupid? Lots of $$$$ wasted. May as well put a match to it.
Posted by: Case at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (5Je/N)
Well, their governor is retarded, so there is that.
Posted by: American Association Of Retardism at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (R/m4+)
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Isn't Scranton Joe getting some kind of Poofter Award from a Buttfucking Organization today? And is giving a speech?
Posted by: Should Be Amusing at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: gp at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (GHIyr)
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There is something wrong with Carlson, and others like him, who will sell their consciences.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM
How much are we talking here?
Posted by: toby928(c)
30 pieces of silver
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)
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Earlier this year, Bryce said, “I honestly think that Hitler was a good guy based on my own research…. he fought for his country and wanted to purify it by kicking out all the greedy Jews.”
Wtf do they find these people. It is like they called down to central casting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 04:48 PM (zZu0s)
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His twitter is filled with much worse.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 04:50 PM (sF9Ts)
70
I mean, there might be a number large enough where I would sell out all of youse.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:50 PM (jc0TO)
71Abortion Is Everything frames abortion as the actualization of a uniquely human superpower: our capacity to imagine the future and make choices that lead us towards the life we envision.
So is using birth control, dummy. Get snipped if you don't want children.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:50 PM (ynpvh)
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There is something wrong with Carlson, and others like him, who will sell their consciences.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM
How much are we talking here?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:48 PM (jc0TO)
Heh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 04:50 PM (zZu0s)
73
Well Suzy, you were going to have a little sister but we decided to suck her out of your mother's womb and let a stranger sell the body parts instead.
But we love you very much, now go clean your room.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2025 04:51 PM (v0R5T)
74
Didn't the original Harry Potter series already have black characters? Because witches and wizards were a global thing?
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:51 PM (77rzZ)
75
Remember how everyone lost their shit when Trump observed that he could shoot someone in Times Square and it would not affect his popularity? We now have obvious fraudsters going free because the districts where they are tried in cannot find an impartial jury...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM
I suspect they specifically did not try to find an impartial grand jury and the voir dire for that particular grand jury was severly lacking.
It's just like everyone clamoring for Trump's DOJ to indict democrats for all sorts of crimes that occurred in DC. It simply ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2025 04:51 PM (0N4FZ)
79 What exactly is happening with SCOTUS and birthright citizenship? They're going to determine whether Trump's EO is legal, or whether the whole concept is ready for the ash-heap of history?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 05, 2025 04:52 PM (isqj7)
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I'd like to remind everyone that as a trusted internet personality I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground content caves!
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:52 PM (jc0TO)
81
How much are we talking here?
Posted by: toby928(c)
It doesn't matter. I walked away from a job with no backup plan because I refused to lie on a document. You just don't sell some things.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 04:52 PM (0U5gm)
The abortion book was written in order to be "banned" from school libraries in red America in order to goose sales to childless cat ladies in San Francisco.
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I mean, there might be a number large enough where I would sell out all of youse.
Posted by: toby928(c)
You can only sell me out if you agree, in a contract signed with your own blood, to do it after you've slept with Trigglypuff first.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)
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62
Forget case somewhat but a Leftist Judge dismissed a jury case after they convinced the criminal, judge let that person off anyway
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM
Didn't that literally just happen in one of the Medicare fraud cases this week?
Posted by: toby928(c)
This place...
it's like being in an Alzheimers Ward...
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (cPNKV)
Well, this group still thinks their 29 years old...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:53 PM (ynpvh)
85
Dean Thomas. Ginny Weasley’s first boyfriend was black. Before she ended up marrying Harry. And no, I make zero apologies for knowing this.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (pDt9x)
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How much are we talking here?
Posted by: toby928(c)
30 pieces of silver
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)
Troy ounces or what?
Posted by: There's pieces and then there's PIECES at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (TbWk/)
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It's just like everyone clamoring for Trump's DOJ to indict democrats for all sorts of crimes that occurred in DC. It simply ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2025 04:51 PM (0N4FZ)
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In which case I will be forced to reconsider my opinion on overthrowing the United States.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (sF9Ts)
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85 Dean Thomas. Ginny Weasley’s first boyfriend was black. Before she ended up marrying Harry. And no, I make zero apologies for knowing this.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (pDt9x)
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All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
89
I am used to some posts requiring "eye bleach".
Thanks Ace, after that Behn link I now need some "ear bleach"!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (HlyYF)
90
It will be interesting to hear what Tucker has to say. He's always interesting, even when you don't like it.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (wBaIH)
91
It seems judiciary around the world are dominated by far left totalitarian.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (8CIFn)
92
A "protestor" in Portland tried to set the ICE building on fire in Portland.
She was charged in state court, and pled guilty to second degree arson.
Ten days in jail.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (xTIDn)
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88 85 Dean Thomas. Ginny Weasley’s first boyfriend was black. Before she ended up marrying Harry. And no, I make zero apologies for knowing this.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (pDt9x)
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All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
True on both counts. They did bring that out in the movie adaptation.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (pDt9x)
94
Democrat-Communists are ok with and in fact facilitate welfare fraud by Somalis and other "immigrants" because, according to the Progressive Cult, White Westerners "stole" all that money from the third world.
Posted by: Well, There's Always the Unexpected at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (qUkBO)
95
Charging any member of the deep state in the DC area will never get a conviction. I don’t know why the DOJ doesn’t understand this.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (wrRTB)
96 Imagine living in a toy train world. Sounds nice, right? Idyllic, even.
The train...constantly on the move, going around the town, never stopping...driving you out of your ever-living mind.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (cPNKV)
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93
All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
True on both counts. They did bring that out in the movie adaptation.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (pDt9x)
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We have some Harry Potter deck building card game and expansions, and I always play as Neville. Dolley plays as Hermione. Junior plays as the HP.
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92 A "protestor" in Portland tried to set the ICE building on fire in Portland.
She was charged in state court, and pled guilty to second degree arson.
Ten days in jail.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (xTIDn)
If she tried that at a PP abattoir, you can be sure she'd end up in the Fed for a very long time.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM (ynpvh)
99
Commenters come and go, sometimes they just go. I haven't seen any comments from andycanuck for quite a while. I miss his wit and links. Anybody know if he's okay?
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM (/iMjX)
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65 Damn, Minnesota is a f*cked up state. From the top down.
How could they be so damn stupid? Lots of $$$$ wasted. May as well put a match to it.
Posted by: Case at December 05, 2025 04:46 PM (5Je/N)
Well, their governor is retarded, so there is that.
Posted by: American Association Of Retardism at December 05, 2025 04:49 PM (R/m4+)
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Remember when they elected Jessie Ventura as Gov. Wacky state.
Posted by: WisRich at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM (NFGTZ)
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97 93
All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
True on both counts. They did bring that out in the movie adaptation.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (pDt9x)
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We have some Harry Potter deck building card game and expansions, and I always play as Neville. Dolley plays as Hermione. Junior plays as the HP.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)
I prefer the car...oh, we're not talking Monopoly?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (ynpvh)
The abortion book was written in order to be "banned" from school libraries in red America in order to goose sales to childless cat ladies in San Francisco.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:53 PM
Childless cat lady: "I need to preserve my right to have an abortion."
Moron: "Have you ever had sex with a human male?"
Childless cat lady: "I don't get your point. Why is that relevant?"
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (HlyYF)
105
We gave men power and freedom and they built civilizations, infrastructure, industries, and the means to protect them. We gave women power and freedom and they murdered millions of their own unborn children. Then they wrote kids books about it.
Posted by: There's something very wrong about this at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (TbWk/)
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97 93
All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
True on both counts. They did bring that out in the movie adaptation.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (pDt9x)
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We have some Harry Potter deck building card game and expansions, and I always play as Neville. Dolley plays as Hermione. Junior plays as the HP.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)
I will play Snape, another hero in the book.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (pDt9x)
107All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
True on both counts. They did bring that out in the movie adaptation.
Posted by: tubal
Can we talk for a moment about how Neville was an utter dweeb through most of the saga...but then he (or at least his actor) turned into an absolute Chad at the end...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (OUMaO)
108 Trump's defense is that he didn't break the law.
Leticia James' defense is that someone like her should not be prosecuted, not that she didn't break the law.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (azNOR)
109
Dear Sweet Actual Jesus, why would you put a big red blotch as the focal centerpiece of the cover of your "children's" book about abortion?
Forget the pillars of salt, this time, Lord, just burn it all and keep burning until there's nothing left to burn.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (06Hmj)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (sF9Ts)
111 The Reddit faggot is back with more Reddit nuggets of cucka.
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (cPNKV)
112
His twitter is filled with much worse.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 04:50 PM (sF9Ts)
So an MMA guy?
Are we supposed to give credence to social commentary from guys with CTE?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (zZu0s)
113
Commenters come and go, sometimes they just go. I haven't seen any comments from andycanuck for quite a while. I miss his wit and links. Anybody know if he's okay?
Posted by: muldoon
What I saw, from other commenters here, was that some anti-Canada comments folks were posting here got under his skin, and he left.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (77rzZ)
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107 Can we talk for a moment about how Neville was an utter dweeb through most of the saga...but then he (or at least his actor) turned into an absolute Chad at the end...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (OUMaO)
115
The train...constantly on the move, going around the town, never stopping...driving you out of your ever-living mind.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I imagine that signal man's arm gets tired holding that lantern up around the clock.
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (/iMjX)
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101 Actually, Harry Potter is ghey and retarded
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM (sF9Ts)
There's also that kid from a Star Trek series that couldn't get into Starfleet Academy for the longest time, and when he did, should've been booted for being involved in a dangerous, banned stunt...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (ynpvh)
117If she tried that at a PP abattoir, you can be sure she'd end up in the Fed for a very long time.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM
With federal interest in abortion policy outlawed by the Supreme Court, how is the FACE act not .. err .. facially unconstitutional?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (jc0TO)
118
Democrat-Communists are ok with and in fact facilitate welfare fraud by Somalis and other "immigrants" because, according to the Progressive Cult, White Westerners "stole" all that money from the third world.
Posted by: Well, There's Always the Unexpected
Funny how the money only makes its appearance in the first world, never in the third world. How did the colonialists find that secret stash, hidden in the wastelands?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (0U5gm)
119
We have some Harry Potter deck building card game and expansions, and I always play as Neville. Dolley plays as Hermione. Junior plays as the HP.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)
I have that. It's a lot of fun.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (MGB5H)
120
A Child's First Murder Book?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 05, 2025 04:36 PM (emBoF)
"A Child's Garden of Murder".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:00 PM (npFr7)
121
Haven't seen andycanuck
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (sF9Ts)
Last time someone asked, I saw someone make a snippy comment about his 'stale links'. Jeez, are we this fucking high school?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:00 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:00 PM (sF9Ts)
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All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
True on both counts. They did bring that out in the movie adaptation.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:55 PM (pDt9x)
They actually both were the folks from the prophecy...Harry and Neville.
I have said that the tv show should have spent the 7 years of the books following Neville. It would have been amazing, and I'd offer to fill in the missing details. Going from the weenie bullied kid to the main hero by book 7 and all due to grit and bravery...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 05, 2025 05:00 PM (tOcjL)
124
I knew that Snape had been cast as black in the upcoming Harry Potter series, but not Hermione.
Arabella Stanton is the actress and she looks Indian/Pakistani/Bangledeshi, somewhere from the subcontinent.
She’s not quite black but certainly not a fuzzy-gingerish-haired, white, English lass, either.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:00 PM (6ydKt)
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will play Snape, another hero in the book.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04
Snape is an utterly terrible person. Just because I helped Harry out doesn't excuse his abuse and nastiness throughout the entire series.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:01 PM (MGB5H)
126 We have some Harry Potter deck building card game and expansions, and I always play as Neville. Dolley plays as Hermione. Junior plays as the HP.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)
I will play Snape, another hero in the book.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (pDt9x)
Snape is, but he was never intended to be one til the 1st movie was shown to the public and Alan Rickman's portrayal was so amazing...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 05, 2025 05:01 PM (tOcjL)
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119 We have some Harry Potter deck building card game and expansions, and I always play as Neville. Dolley plays as Hermione. Junior plays as the HP.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)
I have that. It's a lot of fun.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (MGB5H)
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It is. I've had it on my list of "to-do's" to come up with my own set of rules to allow for deck building between years, adding on the expansions, and having one, long game that goes on for like 12 hours.
I've read a couple of fan made rule, and I've never liked them.
Coming up with that would be a good Christmas present for Dolley...
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Last time someone asked, I saw someone make a snippy comment about his 'stale links'. Jeez, are we this fucking high school?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:00 PM (zZu0s)
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Come back andy! We forgive you for poutine.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:01 PM (sF9Ts)
129
I imagine that signal man's arm gets tired holding that lantern up around the clock.
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (/iMjX)
This too is the story of lawn jockeys.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:01 PM (zZu0s)
130
Can we talk for a moment about how Neville was an utter dweeb through most of the saga...but then he (or at least his actor) turned into an absolute Chad at the end...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 05, 2025 04:58 PM (OUMaO)
Yup. Sometimes homely kids make the best looking adults.
I went the other way: Cute kid, now current me. Alas.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at December 05, 2025 05:02 PM (0aYVJ)
131
I think Tucker is living in a false reality created (intentionally) by leftist Big Tech, EU, and IC. They control his news feeds and all social media he is exposed to. They probably control his uber drivers and the people who he runs into when in stores.
They do this because he was dangerous and they wanted to neutralize him. This is the Treglia Pew speech I always harp on about.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 05:02 PM (1ZMNP)
132
For the record there is nothing stopping Netflix and co from making new IP staring black people or hell older IP.
But this blackwashing stuff is offensive.
I went to watch a show about Cleopatra and as soon as they introduced the actress as black...click.
Why not make a miniseries about the Queen of Sheeba. Or hell how about the life of Haile Selassie?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2025 05:02 PM (sKqQm)
133
The new Potter series will get the same amount of attention fron me as the Prime Lord of the Rings series, specifically, none.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 05:02 PM (pDt9x)
134
As a resident of NY, I want to see my State Attorney General rot in jail.
I really hope the DOJ will persist in indicting this corrupt piece of shit.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2025 05:02 PM (WsJuq)
135
I bet we will lose all our British commenters since we crack on the English poofters all the time.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 05:02 PM (jc0TO)
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117 If she tried that at a PP abattoir, you can be sure she'd end up in the Fed for a very long time.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM
With federal interest in abortion policy outlawed by the Supreme Court, how is the FACE act not .. err .. facially unconstitutional?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (jc0TO)
"It's a tax!"--Justice John Roberts
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 05, 2025 05:03 PM (ynpvh)
Time to break out the snowplow to clear the tracks!
https://is.gd/WkPzWz
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 05:03 PM (cPNKV)
138
It is. I've had it on my list of "to-do's" to come up with my own set of rules to allow for deck building between years, adding on the expansions, and having one, long game that goes on for like 12 hours.
I've read a couple of fan made rule, and I've never liked them.
Coming up with that would be a good Christmas present for Dolley...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 05:01 PM (GBKbO)
Feel free to send my way if you do!
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:03 PM (MGB5H)
139
Best take on Hermoine (and one of the last funny SNL skits) https://tinyurl.com/y8f6wphy
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2025 05:03 PM (sKqQm)
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99 Commenters come and go, sometimes they just go. I haven't seen any comments from andycanuck for quite a while. I miss his wit and links. Anybody know if he's okay?
Posted by: muldoon
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My take: Andy got disgruntled after Trump won and Trump started making comments/insults/trolling about Canada in terms of trade agreements. Think the loss by Canadian right in the elections might have added to the anguish because a fair number of Canadians on the right blame Trump's comments for that.
Then lots of comments about Snow Mexicans, etc. in response from some folks here arose. May be around under some of the new floating nics that seem to not be very happy about this or that under the new regime. Maybe not. Dunno.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:04 PM (WDjG6)
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All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
His character growth was amazing. And the casting people lucked out that this pudgy little kid from the first movie wound up being tall and handsome enough to pull off slicing Naigini in half in an epic fashion in the last movie.
Posted by: pookysgirl's librarian grandma gave her the first 3 HP books at December 05, 2025 05:04 PM (Wt5PA)
143
For the record there is nothing stopping Netflix and co from making new IP staring black people or hell older IP.
But this blackwashing stuff is offensive.
I went to watch a show about Cleopatra and as soon as they introduced the actress as black...click.
Why not make a miniseries about the Queen of Sheeba. Or hell how about the life of Haile Selassie?
Posted by: 18-1
My understanding is that hollywood writers and producers are so racist that they won't write new material for black actors, so they only get retread roles.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 05:04 PM (0U5gm)
144
What I saw, from other commenters here, was that some anti-Canada comments folks were posting here got under his skin, and he left.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (77rzZ)
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I've been meaning to mention all the anti-San Francisco comments. Why, in this very thread....
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:04 PM (sF9Ts)
145
yum yum shit
yummy shit pebbles
in my mouth
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 05, 2025 04:42 PM (NFGTZ)
We're looking out for you, buddy. Wouldn't want you to starve.
Much.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:05 PM (npFr7)
146
144 I've been meaning to mention all the anti-San Francisco comments. Why, in this very thread....
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:04 PM (sF9Ts)
147
Fuck it man just have Idris Elba be Harry Potter. Leave everything else completely unchanged. It'll be hilarious.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 05:06 PM (06Hmj)
148
All I know is that Neville Longbottom was the real hero of the Harry Potter universe and the one the prophecy was about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:54 PM (GBKbO)
Agreed.
Posted by: InZona at December 05, 2025 05:06 PM (ycr1e)
149
All I know is that I hate all penguins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 05:05 PM (GBKbO)
*takes notes*
-Big Penguin
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:06 PM (MGB5H)
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139 Best take on Hermoine (and one of the last funny SNL skits) https://tinyurl.com/y8f6wphy
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2025 05:03 PM (sKqQm)
Hilarious!!!
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 05:07 PM (pDt9x)
151
I bet we will lose all our British commenters since we crack on the English poofters all the time.
Posted by: toby928(c)
More likely they will get arrested by UK police just for writing comments here.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 05:07 PM (0U5gm)
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149 All I know is that I hate all penguins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 05:05 PM (GBKbO)
*takes notes*
-Big Penguin
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:06 PM (MGB5H)
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As long as they like and subscribe, they can scribble with their little flippers all they want.
Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2025 05:07 PM (i+bC1)
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>>>James thanked the jurors, adding she was "humbled by the support I have received from across the country" and would continue "standing up for the rule of law and the people of New York."
The nerve of this bitch.
When there is no rule of law, people will make their own law.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:07 PM (P8IKm)
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153 ‘Look, Jill, I made you a doodoo!’
-Joey B.
Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2025 05:07 PM (i+bC1)
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"The most eloquent pronouncement by a president in my lifetime."
-DU, 100% probability
When there is no rule of law, people will make their own law.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:07 PM (P8IKm)
There's something delightfully thudding about explicitly thanking the jurors who nullified your case for their "support".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 05:09 PM (06Hmj)
158
All I know is that I hate all penguins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger
That tears it! Gonna unsubscribe!
Posted by: Penguin Pool Petey at December 05, 2025 05:10 PM (oftw2)
159
This is a disgusting country.
It is one of the least disgusting countries in the world.
If I lived in Singapore I would be arrested and caned for something I'm not aware of.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 05:10 PM (SZI4T)
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158 All I know is that I hate all penguins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger
That tears it! Gonna unsubscribe!
Posted by: Penguin Pool Petey at December 05, 2025 05:10 PM (oftw2)
161
What I saw, from other commenters here, was that some anti-Canada comments folks were posting here got under his skin, and he left.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (77rzZ)
FFS. Grow a thicker skin.
We make anti-asshole comments all the time, and The James Madison still hangs on like a bad odor.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P8IKm)
162
I lurk but read every day and night or try so I do miss some of the people I have not seen around and of course those who have passed away. I love this place. It's my sanity check - which isn't saying much in some cases but there you go.
Posted by: turambar at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (Q0yOR)
163
LaQuon Potter---Always late for class. Steals Dudley's PlayStation. Knifes Hermione on the train to Hogwarts, Files a racial grievance against Voldemort forcing the Ministry of Magic to require sensitivity training, and no one mentions the lightning scar on his forehead, because it isn't visible.
How many stereotypes did I get?
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (dIske)
164
I only read the first Harry Potter novel, but my wife has read them all, and she has told me that both Snape and Harry's muggle aunt had sympathetic qualities to them, and that they were actually motivated in their actions, to a degree, by a desire to protect Harry.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)
165
If I lived in Singapore I would be arrested and caned for something I'm not aware of.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 05:10 PM (SZI4T)
I would gladly take a good horsewhipping out of left field now and again if it meant all the scumbags who pretend to rule us face a real and inevitable promise of Finding Out any time they so much as smell like they want to Fuck Around.
No one knows how to create such a precious unicorn of a system, though.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (06Hmj)
Posted by: NCKate at December 05, 2025 05:12 PM (uQzkA)
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161 What I saw, from other commenters here, was that some anti-Canada comments folks were posting here got under his skin, and he left.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 04:59 PM (77rzZ)
FFS. Grow a thicker skin.
We make anti-asshole comments all the time, and The James Madison still hangs on like a bad odor.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P8IKm)
THAT Guy!!
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 05:12 PM (pDt9x)
168
Last time someone asked, I saw someone make a snippy comment about his 'stale links'. Jeez, are we this fucking high school?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Eh, to last online you need a tough skin--I've been called a lot of names online over the 30 years or so in discussion boards (starting with Usenet forums) and dealt professionally with shitty comments on peer review for articles, discussants at conferences, editors, and student reviews.
Best to have "I Don't Care Margaret" attitude and carry on. As I told one critic, if what you say is true, then it is true--if not then I really don't have to care about it.
Never take online insults from randos seriously---in some cases it may be literally business for the ten cent posters or some delusional troll living in their parent's basement that haven't bathed since Kamala lost.
As usual, YMMV but that is my take.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:12 PM (WDjG6)
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167 We make anti-asshole comments all the time, and The James Madison still hangs on like a bad odor.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P8IKm)
We make anti-asshole comments all the time, and The James Madison still hangs on like a bad odor.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P8IKm)
THAT Guy!!
Posted by: tubal
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I don't get it.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:12 PM (WDjG6)
171
I've no idea what Netflix has on offer, but if they don't have half a dozen documentaries about the drunks, addicts and mentally ill hordes living in busted RVs on barren patches of Arizona desert, then I would be happy to help them out with their programming.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 05, 2025 05:13 PM (2ap+5)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 05, 2025 05:13 PM (vFG9F)
176
I was never really a Tucker fan as he wasn't on until after my bed time
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 05:14 PM (Ia/+0)
177
We make anti-asshole comments all the time, and The James Madison still hangs on like a bad odor.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P8IKm)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 05:12 PM (GBKbO)
We know, man. We know.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:14 PM (zZu0s)
178
Commenters come and go, sometimes they just go. I haven't seen any comments from andycanuck for quite a while. I miss his wit and links. Anybody know if he's okay?
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 04:57 PM (/iMjX)
He seems to be taking a sabbatical. Apparently some commenters constant swipes at Canada, rankled him. Me, I know they are deserved, and I regard them as applying to the Evil Liberals, and the damfools who vote for them, not me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:14 PM (npFr7)
180
139 Best take on Hermoine (and one of the last funny SNL skits) https://tinyurl.com/y8f6wphy
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2025 05:03 PM (sKqQm)
Ahhh, before Lindsey lost her mind and vanished from the face of the Earth.
She looked cute in that get-up.
(and boobs)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:14 PM (6ydKt)
181
I'll give you a headline, the New York Times said the only reason the J6 bomber was caught was a "far right fixation."
As if, planting bombs at the capitol on J6, was no biggie.
I wanted it solved solely because I wanted the person who planted bombs at the Dem headquarters behind bars, whoever the fuck it is. We were "fixated" because this seems like an easily solvable case, yet no progress was happening. We also didn't know who it was - we had no idea it was a black leftist. Could have been a maga guy. Either way I wanted the guy found and punished.
The only explanation I can summon to understand why lefties weren't also fixated is the FBI knew when they caught the guy it wouldn't look good.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 05, 2025 05:14 PM (gDhA9)
182
We're looking out for you, buddy. Wouldn't want you to starve.
Much.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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He should find a nice hog farm so he can satisfy his cravings. Conveyor waste belts would take the product right to his gaping mouth.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:14 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Tucker Carlson at December 05, 2025 05:15 PM (IifOV)
190
Ahhh, before Lindsey lost her mind and vanished from the face of the Earth.
She looked cute in that get-up.
(and boobs)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December
She's back now. Got some ill-advised plastic surgery.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:16 PM (MGB5H)
191
As for Trump messing up the conservatives chances in Canada, sorry , that is on them. Trump is going to Trump and if all it takes for Canadians to make a disastrous protest vote is him being himself maybe your position wasn't that strong to begin with.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 05:16 PM (YwEeS)
192 61 I'm just going to assume there is a porn video titled Hairy Pooter. No need for confirmation please.
Posted by: muldoon
I asked ai, knowing it wouldn't give me a list. Then i went down a rabit hole about censorship acus___ it of being popgrammed to do so.
It responded that it had safety guidlines. What safety guidlines. No response.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 05:16 PM (QVmho)
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191 As for Trump messing up the conservatives chances in Canada, sorry , that is on them. Trump is going to Trump and if all it takes for Canadians to make a disastrous protest vote is him being himself maybe your position wasn't that strong to begin with.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 05:16 PM (YwEeS)
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The conservative candidate was promising to continue to import 500,000 Indians a year.
194
We should be teaching young women that they shouldn’t be having unprotected sex with losers who will abandon them and their baby as spins as they hear the pregnancy news.
It’s insane to me that abortions are even necessary, let alone a billion-dollar industry. Ladies, keep your legs closed if a dick comes at you bare.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 05, 2025 05:16 PM (osKUJ)
195
she has told me that both Snape and Harry's muggle aunt had sympathetic qualities to them, and that they were actually motivated in their actions, to a degree, by a desire to protect Harry.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)
All true, but none of that is revealed until the final few books.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:16 PM (6ydKt)
196
I don’t insult fellow Hordesters, but love to insult Leftists.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (pDt9x)
As I said before, it's an incoherent mess. I like Guy Richie in general but sometimes, he's awful.
"Revolver" and "Swept Away" are great examples of that.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 04:36 PM (iJfKG)
Then the inaccuracies to the legend are immaterial to your critique. Focus on the actual reasons you dislike it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)
Oh, good grief.
That doesn't make sense. There can be more than one reason for disliking a movie. Number One reason is it wasn't very good, but regardless of my dislike of playing fast and loose with Arthurian stuff I would have liked it if it were good. It's not.
It shouldn''t be hard though to understand that using a well-known Character carries expectations.
Suppose Kubrick had instead of calling "2001: A Space Odyssey" had titled it:
"The Enigmatic Slab: A Sherlock Holmes Mystery"
Well...why not? Why can't Sherlock Holmes be a pre-hominid creature running around the African Savannah clubbing tapirs with leg bones?
This is the argument you're making in regards to this.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (iJfKG)
Disney has a wretched long record on screwing up young people that were child stars at that machine. Even a few in Walt's day like Tommie Kirk. Kurt Russell is one of the rare exceptions.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (WDjG6)
199
Come back andy! We forgive you for poutine.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:01 PM (sF9Ts)
Good poutine is yummy. You can feel your arteries clog with every bite.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (npFr7)
Is she still so, after all her drug/alcohol consumption?
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (77rzZ)
201
I would bet the Canadian Propaganda Ministry is more prevalent than our Democrats Propaganda Ministry
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (Ia/+0)
202
And yet I remain, like a floater you can't flush.
Posted by: toby928(c)
There's one in every septic tank.
Posted by: Penguin Pool Petey at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (oftw2)
203
Jenna Ellis book, Abortion is Everything could be titled We Hate You.
Or, We Hate Life.
It would be simpler for them to just go off and kill themselves.
Then they would be at peace.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 05, 2025 05:18 PM (SZI4T)
204
"The Enigmatic Slab: A Sherlock Holmes Mystery"
Well...why not? Why can't Sherlock Holmes be a pre-hominid creature running around the African Savannah clubbing tapirs with leg bones?
Posted by: naturalfake
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That would actually be a hoot to see. Can we see the whole pitch?
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:18 PM (WDjG6)
205
One amusing video I came across on YT was about a crisis in recruiting for the Canadian military. They mentioned that recruiting got a big bump early in the year from Trump's comments and people signing up to stop Trump from annexing Canada like Hitler did to Austria. Not kidding.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 05:18 PM (YwEeS)
206
Kurt Russel has a good head on his shoulders. He outright says that he sees himself as a jester, paid to entertain.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (jc0TO)
207
It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (viF8m)
208
I remember seeing that Hermoine SNL skit when I aired.
Lindsay is da hawt fo sho.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (wrRTB)
209
Paul Schrader got naked with her and pornstar James Dean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 05:15 PM (GBKbO)
The Canyons.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (MGB5H)
210
Excalibur is the best cinematic telling of the Arthurian legend. That is all.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (YwEeS)
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207 It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (viF8m)
I live in the Ozarks, Jack.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (pDt9x)
212
Can we talk for a moment about how Neville was an utter dweeb through most of the saga...but then he (or at least his actor) turned into an absolute Chad at the end...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum
I think Stranger Things may have had a similar twist.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (/lPRQ)
213
Disney has a wretched long record on screwing up young people that were child stars at that machine. Even a few in Walt's day like Tommie Kirk. Kurt Russell is one of the rare exceptions.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:17 PM (WDjG6)
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I have to believe that Jodie Foster was everyone's favorite Disney child star.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (2ap+5)
214
Some idiot(s) here also drove away "Mister Ghost."
Posted by: Soothsayer
As I recall, he was kinda asshoe.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ)
215Ahhh, before Lindsey lost her mind and vanished from the face of the Earth.
Who was that other cute chick who totally lost her mind and lost her career around the same time-
She was in "She's the Man" I think.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 05:20 PM (iJfKG)
216
That would actually be a hoot to see. Can we see the whole pitch?
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:18 PM (WDjG6)
One little monkey all doodling around with a driver's cap and a meerschaum.... making clearly condescending "ook ook" noises at the other monkeys....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 05:20 PM (06Hmj)
217
Some idiot(s) here also drove away "Mister Ghost."
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Mister Ghost deserved it, and was little more than a Fuentes fanboi.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 05:20 PM (TN0g+)
218It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (viF8m)
I live in the Ozarks, Jack.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM
I live with my cousin-wife in Alabama.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 05:21 PM (jc0TO)
219
Who was that other cute chick who totally lost her mind and lost her career around the same time-
She was in "She's the Man" I think.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 05:20 PM (iJfKG)
Amanda Bynes. She has face tats now.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:21 PM (MGB5H)
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184 180 Ahhh, before Lindsey lost her mind and vanished from the face of the Earth.
She looked cute in that get-up.
(and boobs)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:14 PM (6ydKt) =
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Paul Schrader got naked with her and pornstar James Dean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 05:15 PM (GBKbO)
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In one of the most ridiculous sexual assault cases ever, Deen was sued for sexual abuse during …wait for it … the shooting of a scene for a hardcore porn movie. The whore claimed something like he was supposed to pound her like this, but instead he pounded her like that. Sex assault!
Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 05, 2025 05:21 PM (osKUJ)
221
I subscribed to TJM's YT.
Problem is I have like 100 subscriptions on there and YT doesn't think TJM is important enough to put on my home page.
I'd go looking down the list, but that's some serious scrolling.
I guess I could hit the Bell and be notified but I'm not sure if I'm ready for that kind of commitment. I haven't hit the bell for notifications for anybody on YT yet, I just figure I see 'em when I see 'em.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:21 PM (6ydKt)
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207 It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (viF8m)
Oh cram it Mr. I Live On An Island That Only Has A Southern Coast and Doesn't Even Actually Exist.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 05:22 PM (06Hmj)
223 Amanda Bynes. She has face tats now.
Posted by: BruceWayne
She forgot to not do that.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 05, 2025 05:22 PM (QVmho)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:23 PM (CTokg)
228
226 I saw the poster and thought someone made a parody but it is real.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 05:24 PM (YwEeS)
229
I wouldn't anyone messing with drug addicts.
It's a train wreck in slow motion
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 05:24 PM (Ia/+0)
230
206 Kurt Russel has a good head on his shoulders. He outright says that he sees himself as a jester, paid to entertain.
Posted by: toby928(c)
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There was a recent short video of kids now grown up discussing being on Walt's last supervised picture. It was Fred McMurray leading in "Follow Me Boys" (love letter to the Boy Scouts when the organization deserved it).
The boys noted that Kurt was already the professional actor on the set at something like 10 or 11 years old and was passing along how to do it to the other kid actors.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:24 PM (WDjG6)
Here is something that bothers me. The piece above about the DEI training material teaching that all whites are racists.
Maybe I am lucky, but I never had a job that was worth putting up with that shit. I don't understand why any white person does.
I really don't understand why the first person AT&T pushed that on did not push back and tell them that they are not racist, they are offended by the hostile work environment that they have created, and they can expect a 7 figure settlement demand.
Is the country so far gone that a company can systemically call an entire race "racist" and get away with it for years?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 05:24 PM (1ZMNP)
232
My take: Andy got disgruntled after Trump won and Trump started making comments/insults/trolling about Canada in terms of trade agreements. Think the loss by Canadian right in the elections might have added to the anguish because a fair number of Canadians on the right blame Trump's comments for that.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:04 PM (WDjG6)
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If that's the case, he's really going to be upset in about six months when they dissolve the USMCA agreement. Carney has been sitting on his entitled ass while Bessent has been updating trade agreements across the globe...many of which are making a point to include good trade deals on products Canada held a "monopoly" on with the US. Canada (and Mexico for that matter) will have minimal leverage in the negotiations, and there will be a bi-lateral agreement instead of a tri-lateral agreement. I'm not embellishing when I say that two years from now a Canadian dollar will be worth half of what it is now.
Short version: Canadians are truly screwed.
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2025 05:25 PM (dIske)
233
209 Paul Schrader got naked with her and pornstar James Dean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 05, 2025 05:15 PM (GBKbO)
The Canyons.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (MGB5H)
I haven't seen that one.
I recall some scandal/lawsuit but following Lindsey wasn't on my To-Do List back then, I'd just read about a DUI every now and then and thank my lucky stars I was never a Hollywood Brat.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:25 PM (6ydKt)
234"The Enigmatic Slab: A Sherlock Holmes Mystery"
Well...why not? Why can't Sherlock Holmes be a pre-hominid creature running around the African Savannah clubbing tapirs with leg bones?
Posted by: naturalfake
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That would actually be a hoot to see. Can we see the whole pitch?
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:18 PM (WDjG6)
Yeah, I wanted to see it even as I wrote it.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 05:25 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 05:25 PM (g47mK)
236
Short version: Canadians are truly screwed.
All self inflicted.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 05:26 PM (YwEeS)
237
"Is the country so far gone that a company can systemically call an entire race "racist" and get away with it for years?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)"
Well, yeah.
Posted by: fd at December 05, 2025 05:26 PM (vFG9F)
238
It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Even if it's imaginary? Like Hogwarts? Or Rhode Island?
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 05:26 PM (/iMjX)
239
One little monkey all doodling around with a driver's cap and a meerschaum.... making clearly condescending "ook ook" noises at the other monkeys....
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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It would save a lot on dialogue and I don't think monkeys get residuals or profit sharing without a damn good agent.
Then again, Quest for Fire did that and that was so bad that I walked out of the theater in the first five minutes.
Even possibly seeing Darrah Hannah nekkid was not worth the pain of watching that POS.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:26 PM (WDjG6)
240
One amusing video I came across on YT was about a crisis in recruiting for the Canadian military. They mentioned that recruiting got a big bump early in the year from Trump's comments and people signing up to stop Trump from annexing Canada like Hitler did to Austria. Not kidding.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2025 05:18 PM (YwEeS)
So the Canuck military has taken on a new tranche of very stupid people? They'll be fighting over whose turn it is to tote the platoon's only .303
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:26 PM (npFr7)
241
It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (viF8m)
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I live in the Ozarks, Jack.
Posted by: tubal at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM
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No sympathy for youse guys. Try living at the Jersey Shore.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2025 05:27 PM (3ImbR)
242
I hate to say it, but if Canadians voted for their own destruction to spite Trump, they deserve all of the pain they are getting.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 05:27 PM (0U5gm)
243
If I was getting paid Tucker Carlson money, would I do Tucker Carlson things?
244
UK is screwed for real. I read they cancelled elections of some sort. This is what happens when you let socialists into the henhouse to mind the sheep!
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 05:27 PM (g47mK)
245Who was that other cute chick who totally lost her mind and lost her career around the same time-
She was in "She's the Man" I think.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 05:20 PM (iJfKG)
Amanda Bynes. She has face tats now.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:21 PM (MGB5H)
Wholley Kau!!!
She's never coming back from Pluto, is she?
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 05:28 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 05:28 PM (cPNKV)
247
Yeah, I wanted to see it even as I wrote it.
Posted by: naturalfake
Heck, even Psych is a basic retread of Sherlock Holmes, albeit entertaining. But monkeys and monoliths and murder--oh my.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:28 PM (WDjG6)
248
Is he a former trunk monkey? Cause I like that trunk monkey’s style.
Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2025 05:28 PM (i+bC1)
249
Kurt Russel has a good head on his shoulders. He outright says that he sees himself as a jester, paid to entertain.
Posted by: toby928(c)
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There was a recent short video of kids now grown up discussing being on Walt's last supervised picture. It was Fred McMurray leading in "Follow Me Boys" (love letter to the Boy Scouts when the organization deserved it).
The boys noted that Kurt was already the professional actor on the set at something like 10 or 11 years old and was passing along how to do it to the other kid actors.
Posted by: whig
The director of Tombstone was way over his head, and Kurt Russell essentially sidled in and directed the movie himself. One of the best westerns in the past 40 years.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 05:29 PM (0U5gm)
Posted by: Soothsayer goes at December 05, 2025 05:29 PM (cPNKV)
251
Doesn’t Canada have more navy admirals than ships?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:29 PM (wrRTB)
252
>>Even if it's imaginary? Like Hogwarts? Or Rhode Island?
Et tu, Muldoon?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)
253
Trump has little effect on elections outside of US borders. If he did, Farage, that AfD lady in Germany, and LaPen would be in charge. And Balsanaro would not be in jail.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (g47mK)
254
Who was that other cute chick who totally lost her mind and lost her career around the same time-
She was in "She's the Man" I think.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 05, 2025 05:20 PM (iJfKG)
Maybe you don't ,mean her, but Britney Spears was losing it along the same time frame as Lindsey.
I believe that's when Britney shaved her head and started going out on the town sans panties.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (6ydKt)
255
Where in Canada is AndyCanuck from, anyone know?
The soon to be US Alberta
The soon to be FN portions
The froggy part
Or the commie part?
I left out the fish eaters, but I don't think any of them can read so he is probably not from there.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (1ZMNP)
256
244 UK is screwed for real. I read they cancelled elections of some sort. This is what happens when you let socialists into the henhouse to mind the sheep!
Posted by: runner
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Plus ditching about 800 years of Magna Carta tradition in eliminating jury trials for all but the most serious offenses.
Rumpole and the Non-Existent Jury story would not be very interesting.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (WDjG6)
257
FFS. Grow a thicker skin.
We make anti-asshole comments all the time, and The James Madison still hangs on like a bad odor.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P8IKm)
Correct. You wanna hang with the big dogs, you gotta take the diaper off. You can cry, but you gotta lose the diaper.
Posted by: Dick Vermeil at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (R/m4+)
258
It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw
*********
Even if it's imaginary? Like Hogwarts? Or Rhode Island?
Posted by: muldoon
Just a reminder; Rhode Island is not actually an island. False advertising.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 05, 2025 05:31 PM (0U5gm)
Go back to driver check in and talk to someone else. "Who did you talk to?" Didn't get a name. "Was he black?" .....uuuuhhhhhh.....
I'm not seeing anyone but black dudes, man, that's not going to narrow things down.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 05, 2025 05:31 PM (uP08n)
260
The director of Tombstone was way over his head, and Kurt Russell essentially sidled in and directed the movie himself. One of the best westerns in the past 40 years.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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Kurt's pretty circumspect about it but others in the movie weren't.
One of the last of his kind in Hollywood I'm afraid.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:31 PM (WDjG6)
261
I think Tucker is living in a false reality created (intentionally) by leftist Big Tech, EU, and IC. They control his news feeds and all social media he is exposed to. They probably control his uber drivers and the people who he runs into when in stores.
They do this because he was dangerous and they wanted to neutralize him. This is the Treglia Pew speech I always harp on about.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 05:02 PM (1ZMNP)
I don't think an adult with Tucker's resources has any claim to have been faked or fooled. His actions are his, not some cabal he didn't join willingly.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:32 PM (8avO+)
262
Of course Trump fucked the Canadian election. Conservatives were leading bigly in polls for a year. Then Trump started talking about a 51st state and that lead evaporated overnight.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:32 PM (wrRTB)
263
Speaking of TJM's vlog, I'm finally glad to know someone besides me saw John Carter. That was a fun film!
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 05, 2025 05:32 PM (uP08n)
264
244 UK is screwed for real. I read they cancelled elections of some sort. This is what happens when you let socialists into the henhouse to mind the sheep!
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 05:27 PM (g47mK)
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It's almost amusing how obviously the Brits are being played. Here's a little something that media hasn't even discovered yet:
Last year, the UK made all organ donations "Opt Out." This means you are donating your organs unless you take the steps to remove yourself. They made this ruling without debate, publicity, or Parliament involvement.
A year later they introduced Euthanasia into the UK (where it was previously illegal). And keep in mind the influence of their "nationalized health program" ...The NHS.
Now, why do you suppose they proceeded very quietly on the former, and then introduced the latter. What do you think their goal is?
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2025 05:33 PM (dIske)
265
In one of the most ridiculous sexual assault cases ever, Deen was sued for sexual abuse during …wait for it … the shooting of a scene for a hardcore porn movie. The whore claimed something like he was supposed to pound her like this, but instead he pounded her like that. Sex assault!
Posted by: Elric the Blade
Wrong hole! Wrong hole!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 05, 2025 05:33 PM (/lPRQ)
266
No sympathy for youse guys. Try living at the Jersey Shore.
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Seems like good trashy fun goes on there. I don't recall any of the yutes involved marrying brothers or sisters or their uncle or something though.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:33 PM (WDjG6)
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Speaking of TJM's vlog, I'm finally glad to know someone besides me saw John Carter. That was a fun film!
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December
Shoulda been a series. But Disney completely screwed the pooch on the name and marketing.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:33 PM (MGB5H)
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Is the country so far gone that a company can systemically call an entire race "racist" and get away with it for years?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 05:24 PM (1ZMNP)
Yes.
Posted by: The NFL at December 05, 2025 05:34 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: muldoon at December 05, 2025 05:34 PM (/iMjX)
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Doesn’t Canada have more navy admirals than ships?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:29 PM (wrRTB)
Dunno. West Edmonton Mall has more operable submarines than the Canadian Navy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:34 PM (npFr7)
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FFS. Grow a thicker skin.
We make anti-asshole comments all the time, and The James Madison still hangs on like a bad odor.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P8IKm)
Correct. You wanna hang with the big dogs, you gotta take the diaper off. You can cry, but you gotta lose the diaper.
Posted by: Dick Vermeil at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (R/m4+)
Plus at the time I saw tons of Canadians make statement after statement threatening death and destruction on red states because we were tired of them ripping us off for decades with 300 pct tariffs on cheese and dairy. Excuse us for wanting to make milk and cheese cheaper for you guys. That nation needs to be broken up to save the sane parts.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:35 PM (8avO+)
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Posted by: pookysgirl's librarian grandma gave her the first 3 HP books at December 05, 2025 05:04 PM (Wt5PA)
He wore a fat suit, and possibly a buck teeth prosthetic, for the first two movies, I think.... the fat suit for sure, but it may have been that they tried the buck teeth on Emma Watson, but opted not to.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 05, 2025 05:35 PM (Vvh2V)
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The whore claimed something like he was supposed to pound her like this, but instead he pounded her like that. Sex assault!
Posted by: Elric the Blade
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The legal points in this case would have to be handled delicately. Difficult, indeed HARD, to make a case while the judge and/or jury were sniggering with every bit of evidence presentment.
The highlight of slo mo and using a pointer stick to illustrate the critical moments on the video screen would not help matters.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:35 PM (WDjG6)
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Of course Trump fucked the Canadian election. Conservatives were leading bigly in polls for a year. Then Trump started talking about a 51st state and that lead evaporated overnight.
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I doubt that Conservatives in Canada were ever "leading bigly"--Canada is the same nation that was relentless in shutting down free speech, shutting down bank accounts and wire transfers, and mandating state-approved speech during the last 4-5 years.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 05:36 PM (TN0g+)
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Doesn’t Canada have more navy admirals than ships?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:29 PM (wrRTB)
Dunno. West Edmonton Mall has more operable submarines than the Canadian Navy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:34 PM (npFr7)
That stat was for the UK. I have no idea about the Canadian navy, but its likely. Even the US Navy has massive admiral bloat.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:36 PM (8avO+)
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Trump has little effect on elections outside of US borders. If he did, Farage, that AfD lady in Germany, and LaPen would be in charge. And Balsanaro would not be in jail.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (g47mK)
Canada's different though.
They consume our media more than any other nation due to most of the population being within 100 miles of the border.
You could see in the polls when Trump started trolling, Pierre's numbers went down, and Carney's went up.
A lot of Canadian conservatives were angry because their basic pitch is to be more like the U.S., and less like the U.K., and most of them admired Trump for bringing us back from the brink. When Trump started talking about the '51st state' even they were getting pissed off at him.
So Pierre got a lot of flack for being too much like Trump, when he truly isn't, and ran his best campaign and lost.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:36 PM (6ydKt)
277Then again, Quest for Fire did that and that was so bad that I walked out of the theater in the first five minutes.
Even possibly seeing Darrah Hannah nekkid was not worth the pain of watching that POS.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:26 PM
*cough*Rae Dawn Chong*cough*
unless you meant Clan of the Cave Bear.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 05:37 PM (jc0TO)
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Carney won because the wheels fell off of Poilievre's wagon (no i'm not going to look up how to spell that right and put the little doodad on top, get over it).
The dude had his "sounds good in memes" momentum going strong, but then starting talking all kinds of weird shit. I don't even remember what, I just remember thinking "wow this guy is actually kind of nuts, isn't he?"
I think he talked some shit about Trump, but A) that was probably some last minute tactical shit and B) who the fuck cares, the world does not actually revolve around Donald Trump's mouth, no matter what all the professional newsface idiots believe. He lost because he didn't have enough cultural momentum to be The New Guy and still win. The scalpweasel was just noise in that race.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 05:37 PM (06Hmj)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 05:38 PM (Ia/+0)
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I doubt that Conservatives in Canada were ever "leading bigly"--Canada is the same nation that was relentless in shutting down free speech, shutting down bank accounts and wire transfers, and mandating state-approved speech during the last 4-5 years.
Posted by: Crusader at December 05, 2025 05:36 PM (TN0g+)
Plus they added mass election fraud to the mix as well.
Well, they got the government they wanted, and its biting them hard.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:38 PM (8avO+)
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The soon to be US Alberta
The soon to be FN portions
The froggy part
Or the commie part?
I left out the fish eaters, but I don't think any of them can read so he is probably not from there.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (1ZMNP)
Greater Toronto area, which did send a number of Conservative MP's to the House in the last election. Nevertheless, Toronto is an urban shithole.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:38 PM (npFr7)
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Carlson was always what he is showing himself to be, letting his freak flag fly now because he is in his 50s, his TV /media career is over, and hanging on youtube/tiktok is not that great for someone like him. He wants so influence. He wants big lights and big fame. He got into some venture with ME money recently. He probably has , or will have property in Qatar to live there part time. He will try to cause trouble, but...we shall see. He is not the first mouth with those kinda of views. BTW, now, after he let his freak flag fly, people are recalling stuff, trepidations other people had about him.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 05:38 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Dad of Six at December 05, 2025 05:38 PM (+OGAU)
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doubt that Conservatives in Canada were ever "leading bigly"--Canada is the same nation that was relentless in shutting down free speech, shutting down bank accounts and wire transfers, and mandating state-approved speech during the last 4-5 years.
Posted by: Crusader
Hence the pushback against the government that did that.
You have to remember in parliamentary elections the winner gets like 40% of the vote.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:38 PM (wrRTB)
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The whore claimed something like he was supposed to pound her like this, but instead he pounded her like that. Sex assault!
Posted by: Elric the Blade
Either way, she didn't feel anything. Holes like a Skippy peanut butter jar. She could read a book while he was doing his thing.
Posted by: Hos Gotta Ho at December 05, 2025 05:39 PM (R/m4+)
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Shoulda been a series. But Disney completely screwed the pooch on the name and marketing.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 05, 2025 05:33 PM (MGB5H)
A one sheet that was an homage to the famous Frazetta cover would have been nice.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 05, 2025 05:39 PM (uP08n)
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Just read the synopsis of the Canyons. That sounds pretty stupid.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:39 PM (zZu0s)
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The term "vlog" always reminds me of a monster or a space alien in a horror movie, probably because the combination "vl" at the beginning of a word is so rare in English.
Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2025 05:39 PM (77rzZ)
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I don't think an adult with Tucker's resources has any claim to have been faked or fooled. His actions are his, not some cabal he didn't join willingly.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Pretty much yes on that. Personally I never like bowtie boy from his time on Crossfire. Seemed to be a political whitebread commentator that was fake through and through. Course, I find most tv news and political personalities loathsome.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:40 PM (WDjG6)
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I liked the John Carter Film. But I have a theory had they named it "Princess of Mars" or kept that in, it would have done better. The POINT of a boring name like John Carter is the juxtaposition between that and "princess" and "mars."
There's a reason a pretty princes is introduced at the very beginning of Star Wars, not halfway through.
The director Andrew Stanton is talented, I felt bad it flopped. It's no worse than Cameron's Avatar.
Posted by: LizLem at December 05, 2025 05:40 PM (Eng1Z)
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lot of Canadian conservatives were angry because their basic pitch is to be more like the U.S., and less like the U.K., and most of them admired Trump for bringing us back from the brink. When Trump started talking about the '51st state' even they were getting pissed off at him.
So Pierre got a lot of flack for being too much like Trump, when he truly isn't, and ran his best campaign and lost.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:36 PM (6ydKt)
This.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:40 PM (wrRTB)
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All I can say about Canada is what I say about New York City; the voters should get what they voted for, good and hard.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 05:40 PM (jc0TO)
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Posted by: runner at December 05, 2025 05:30 PM (g47mK)
Yes and no. Voting for party, rather than individuals, plays a huge part in this. All the fringe parties can absolutely affect elections in a way they can't here.
But euro weenies are more leftist as a rule, and Trump won't sway sway all of them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 05, 2025 05:40 PM (Vvh2V)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2025 05:41 PM (W2Pud)
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Carney won because the wheels fell off of Poilievre's wagon (no i'm not going to look up how to spell that right and put the little doodad on top, get over it).
The dude had his "sounds good in memes" momentum going strong, but then starting talking all kinds of weird shit. I don't even remember what, I just remember thinking "wow this guy is actually kind of nuts, isn't he?"
I think he talked some shit about Trump, but A) that was probably some last minute tactical shit and B) who the fuck cares, the world does not actually revolve around Donald Trump's mouth, no matter what all the professional newsface idiots believe. He lost because he didn't have enough cultural momentum to be The New Guy and still win. The scalpweasel was just noise in that race.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 05:37 PM (06Hmj)
You spelled perfectly. No accent. Mostly agree with your assessment. What really queered the election was the massive collapse of the NDP, and most of those votes went to the Liberals.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:43 PM (npFr7)
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Citizen Kane is on TCM but in my upgrade to faster internet and HD TV I lost TCM, my mostly watched channel
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2025 05:44 PM (Ia/+0)
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lot of Canadian conservatives were angry because their basic pitch is to be more like the U.S., and less like the U.K., and most of them admired Trump for bringing us back from the brink. When Trump started talking about the '51st state' even they were getting pissed off at him.
So Pierre got a lot of flack for being too much like Trump, when he truly isn't, and ran his best campaign and lost.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:36 PM (6ydKt)
This.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:40 PM (wrRTB)
If Pierre was a Trump, or a Ted Cruz even, he likely would have won. But he's too much Clark Kent, even for Canada.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:44 PM (8avO+)
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291 lot of Canadian conservatives were angry because their basic pitch is to be more like the U.S., and less like the U.K., and most of them admired Trump for bringing us back from the brink. When Trump started talking about the '51st state' even they were getting pissed off at him.
So Pierre got a lot of flack for being too much like Trump, when he truly isn't, and ran his best campaign and lost.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 05, 2025 05:36 PM (6ydKt)
This.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I am too bored to look up the actual data but I suspect you are correct. Then again, Canada has had open borders for a long time and it might simply be that in the end, the newcomers voted for the party that would pay them benefits.
Canada, like most of the West, is being looted by today's version of Goths, Vandals, and such.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:44 PM (WDjG6)
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What Trunp did is also make liberal supporters who were on the fence and persuadable to vote Conservative, come back.
Think of it like a brother that pisses you off and you’re mad at. Then your neighbors says yeah your brother is a real asshole. You’re gonna be like whoa dude, that’s family. Fuck off.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:44 PM (wrRTB)
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You spelled perfectly. No accent. Mostly agree with your assessment. What really queered the election was the massive collapse of the NDP, and most of those votes went to the Liberals.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2025 05:43 PM (npFr7)
Funny how in UK, France, Germany and now Canada parties that have hung around for generations just melt away when convenient for the Deep State.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 05, 2025 05:45 PM (8avO+)
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I have to believe that Jodie Foster was everyone's favorite Disney child star.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (2ap+5
Annette Funicello
Posted by: javems at December 05, 2025 05:45 PM (8I4hW)
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It's hurtful and wrong to make fun of the place someone lives.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (viF8m)
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The "Island" part or the "Plantations" part?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2025 05:46 PM (CTokg)
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296 Citizen Kane is on TCM but in my upgrade to faster internet and HD TV I lost TCM, my mostly watched channel
Posted by: Skip
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Comcast killed TCM on my cable and thence I cut the cord. TCM movies sometimes appear on Prime hit or miss.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:46 PM (WDjG6)
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The left has new book out about the sacrament of killing an unborn child: Abortion is Everything.
I have a theory about these woke kid's books. Sure, they are packaged and sold for kids. But they are REALLY for the adults who write them, as the books they WISHED they had as kids. They never got over traumatic childhoods where they felt oppressed.
There's a movement called re-regulation where you talk to your childhood self to heal your past trauma and childhood PTSD. Whisper to it in baby talk. These books are a subconscious extension of that. Shouting your abortion whispers to your PTSD inner child you are ok. Or something.
Posted by: LizLem at December 05, 2025 05:48 PM (Eng1Z)
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Conservatives won more votes than Libetals 2 elections ago. About 1% more.
Trudeau only got 33% of the vote.
That’s the fucked up nature of parliamentary systems.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 05, 2025 05:49 PM (wrRTB)
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I figure Quidditch will end up like the NBA; no traveling calls, no three second calls, no carrying the ball, just mindless jocks launching three-pointers and flopping for cheap free-throws.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 05, 2025 05:51 PM (w6S0H)
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HBO has the rights to the stream the Ghibli films. I wonder if those roll over to Netflix and it will have Ghibli, or if Ghibli will renegotiate.
We get Netflix free through my phone plan. I wonder if they become the head streaming group if that deal will end.
Posted by: LizLem at December 05, 2025 05:52 PM (Eng1Z)
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Ill admit when I first say 'vlog' many moons ago, I thought 'vagina log/blog'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:54 PM (zZu0s)
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308 Ill admit when I first say 'vlog' many moons ago, I thought 'vagina log/blog'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 05:54 PM (zZu0s)
Go on....
Posted by: Eve Ensler at December 05, 2025 06:04 PM (06Hmj)
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Seems like good trashy fun goes on there. I don't recall any of the yutes involved marrying brothers or sisters or their uncle or something though.
Posted by: whig at December 05, 2025 05:33 PM (WDjG6)
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Well, true. I guess there's that.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2025 06:05 PM (3ImbR)
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yeah imma just slip that nasty ass sock right off and into trash, don't mind me....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 05, 2025 06:06 PM (06Hmj)
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Walz, you have to be a important to invoke lese-majeste.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 05, 2025 06:11 PM (zZu0s)
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I have to believe that Jodie Foster was everyone's favorite Disney child star.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 05, 2025 05:19 PM (2ap+5
Annette Funicello
Posted by: javems at December 05, 2025 05:45 PM
You're not really 29, are you?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 05, 2025 06:26 PM (Wnv9h)
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Perhaps if anyone ever calls me a racist or fascist to my face, I will have the presence of mind to say, "That word has an actual meaning and you are using it incorrectly."
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 05, 2025 06:35 PM (FMtrg)
315Perhaps if anyone ever calls me a racist or fascist to my face, I will have the presence of mind to say, "That word has an actual meaning and you are using it incorrectly."
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 05, 2025 06:35 PM
also, you might be wanting to pick up your teeth.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 05, 2025 06:53 PM (jc0TO)
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In an ironic twist only children who were not aborted will be reading this book. Liberals are retarded and gay.
Posted by: Steve at December 05, 2025 07:43 PM (9vT7g)
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Gaijin on the train.
Philip's inability to FAKE attachment is very American, and of course why we like him.
This gig, which happens immediately after Philip accepts the job, made me a bit nervous about what might come next.
It's nice to see small businesses thriving in Japan. Even if they're fundamentally very weird.
