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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:00 AM (ccf/V) 2
Nooded.
Posted by: Nazdar at September 10, 2026 11:00 AM (NcvvS) 3
Woah.....didn't expect that one.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:00 AM (ccf/V) 4
>> Some of us will never surrender. We prefer death on a pile of hot brass to submission to goat-molesting fanatics from Scumbagistan. But when the lieutenant governor of Minnesota or the governor of New York shows up in Muslim headgear so as not to offend the local Mohammedans, you know a slice of our society yearns to be handmaidens to the barbarians.
-Kurt Schlicter, How 9/11 Changed Everything Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:02 AM (SqxZS) 5
Mother, you had me, but I didn't have you.
I wanted you, but you didn't want me. Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at September 10, 2026 11:02 AM (Fn+3X) 6
Man, if this ever goes public, you will NEVER be allowed to be on the next Clancy jury!
Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 11:04 AM (Be6wp) 7
Really sad to see Rich Baris of PPD, go to the darkside and join Bulwark. He was great in 2016, but then went off deep end.
Posted by: Jonah at September 10, 2026 11:06 AM (gwrBY) 8
Man, if this ever goes public, you will NEVER be allowed to be on the next Clancy jury!
Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 11:04 AM (Be6wp) Exactly. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:06 AM (k5CNB) 9
Women are awesome. They're beautiful, usually.
They're the givers of life. It's an amazing gift they received from The Almighty. What men were designed for is all for the women to build homes and families. It's so sad society has moved away from that. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:06 AM (ccf/V) 10
SPONGE!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:06 AM (Rm1ix) 11
so this 25 year old veteran on the Jury, trashes the lone holdout. Punk
Posted by: Jonah at September 10, 2026 11:06 AM (gwrBY) 12
Or even better, watch the mothers in your life and how they nurture and defend the innocent
*laughs derisively* My mother was the single most destructive force in my life from earliest memory. Nurture? Sure, if you mean inspiring suicidal self-hatred before I even hit puberty. So let's not go overboard with this women are inherently morally pure, gentle, loving and maternal beings rubbish. We're all born sinful. We need good women to be good mothers, no question. But this "superiority" nonsense is a bridge way too far. Posted by: Correction but not overcorrection at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (TbWk/) 13
They promote females while decrying femininity. They defend mothers while despising motherhood. They weaponize women to control women. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (b+pJs) 14
MUNKEY Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (iqcvy) 15
If it weren’t for Men, everyone would still be living in Caves. And if it weren’t for Women, everyone would still be living in Caves.
Posted by: Nome Sayin? at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (60d+e) 16
Being a parent is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
But also the most rewarding. These people choosing not to have kids because it's a "burden" don't understand that tradeoff. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM (77rzZ) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM (dK+Kv) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM (ccf/V) 19
>> Some of us will never surrender. We prefer death on a pile of hot brass to submission to goat-molesting fanatics from Scumbagistan. But when the lieutenant governor of Minnesota or the governor of New York shows up in Muslim headgear so as not to offend the local Mohammedans, you know a slice of our society yearns to be handmaidens to the barbarians.
-Kurt Schlicter, How 9/11 Changed Everything Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:02 AM I like the cut of this Schlicter guy's jib. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM (Rm1ix) 20
"Or even better, watch the mothers in your life and how they nurture and defend the innocent. Because that is what children are...innocents. And God (or nature) has endowed mothers with exactly the tools to be their defenders, in ways that the rest of us cannot."
___ I have the honor, the blessing, of being able to watch my daughter raise my granddaughters. It is truly humbling. Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM (iEpUd) 21
Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb?
https://youtu.be/o7MlC_Qrmmc Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM (dK+Kv) Ugh.......such an overrated band....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (ccf/V) Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (dpXJq) 23
Posted by: Correction but not overcorrection at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (TbWk/)
Your shitty experience has nothing to do with what I wrote. And I never wrote that women are morally pure. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (k5CNB) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (ccf/V) 25
Being a parent is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
But also the most rewarding. These people choosing not to have kids because it's a "burden" don't understand that tradeoff. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM (77rzZ) ___ Amen. Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (iEpUd) 26
White (Euro) white babies are now being born significantly fewer than the replacement late.
What policies and l at what cost should changed be made to reverse that trend ? Posted by: Paul at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM Wow. Paul asked a sensible, on-point question without making an ass of himself. Maybe there's hope. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:10 AM (Rm1ix) 27
So anyway I got home last night. Naturally, as one does after a long time working, I drank. But I am NOT hungover this morning.
How's everyone doing? Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 11:10 AM (dpXJq) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (dK+Kv) 29
Wow. Paul asked a sensible, on-point question without making an ass of himself. Maybe there's hope. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:10 AM (Rm1ix) He's still a dick........ Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (ccf/V) 30
>>>Sure, there are many (maybe most?) men who are wonderful fathers and who partner with their wives to create fine children.
many (maybe most?) I doubt it. I would go with: Sure, there are men who are wonderful fathers and who partner with their wives to create fine children. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (odBC9) 31
How alarming is it that a jury couldn't convict a mother who planned the murder of her three children but another jury /judge had no problem convicting another mother who let her five year old walk around alone in the gated neighborhood?
Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (KC5Lt) 32
And I never wrote that women are morally pure. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (k5CNB) He's a smarty and read between the lines to gather what you MEANT, silly. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (ccf/V) 33
From one of the female jurors in the clancy case:
“He had the hardest time getting over the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.” I literally can't wrap my head around the kind of mentality that it takes to come up with a statement like that. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (I43vL) 34
CBD - Dropped some BBQ links for you @186 on Art Thread
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (wVcYX) 35
Breasticles are a big part of the difference.
Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (odBC9) 36
-Kurt Schlicter, How 9/11 Changed Everything
Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:02 AM (SqxZS) I loved this article. Full disclosure, I love most of what he writes. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (PGK1w) 37
White (Euro) white babies are now being born significantly fewer than the replacement late.
What policies and l at what cost should changed be made to reverse that trend ? Posted by: Paul at September 10, 2026 11:08 AM Wow. Paul asked a sensible, on-point question without making an ass of himself. Maybe there's hope. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:10 AM (Rm1ix) Yeah, but it's borderline incoherent. Is the Paki troll farm lowering its standards in English proficiency? Do better, troll farm. Do better. Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (dpXJq) 38
I do find it really notable that the women on the jury were able to muster so much empathy for Clancy but none for her children.
Posted by: Bilwis - Wizard of Clwyd at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (r7+Q7) 39
Posted by: Correction but not overcorrection at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (TbWk/)
My mother tormented those around her without respite including my good humble self and even tried to strangle me at 12, claiming that she would not let me turn out like my brother (who I'm nothing like btw - he's an abusive retard lib dummy, go figure). But my father, who I love and miss dearly, let her. So where does that put everyone. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (b+pJs) 40
Women are superior because they control or at least highly influence men. It was always a big lie of "feminism" that women were oppressed by men. Of course, the point of feminism wasn't to empower ladies. It was to empower leftwing oppression and communism.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (iFTx/) 41
He's a smarty and read between the lines to gather what you MEANT, silly.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (ccf/V) Yes. What I did write is that women are provided the tools. But they also have free will, so there is no guarantee. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (k5CNB) 42
Ugh.......such an overrated band.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (ccf/V) I dare you to post Queensrÿche. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (dK+Kv) 43
Sure, there are men who are wonderful fathers and who partner with their wives to create fine children.
Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (odBC9) I would still venture, despite my total loss for humanity as a whole, in the US, there are many more good fathers and mothers than not, but the media chooses to amplify the bad as 'trend' and force others in that direction. hollywood and the leftist media has been pushing to destroy the 'nuclear family' for generations. It's what they do. It is the work of The Devil. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (ccf/V) Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (KC5Lt) 45
33 From one of the female jurors in the clancy case:
“He had the hardest time getting over the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.” I literally can't wrap my head around the kind of mentality that it takes to come up with a statement like that. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (I43vL) I believe the woman's words were: “He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.” Which is maybe worse. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (odBC9) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (k5CNB) 47
Mother should I trust the government
Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (b+pJs) 48
Morning. Holy shit, the incels are mobilizing! https://tinyurl.com/bdhvjcev Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (dpXJq) Using an RC Panzer IV is unfortunate.... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (iqcvy) 49
I dare you to post Queensrÿche. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (dK+Kv) Challenge: Accepted https://youtu.be/jhat-xUQ6dw Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (ccf/V) 50
He's still a dick........
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM "That goes without saying" - Froederick Frankenstein Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (Rm1ix) 51
Ugh.......such an overrated band.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (ccf/V) I dare you to post Queensrÿche. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (dK+Kv) https://youtu.be/MU6582h7aPk Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (dpXJq) 52
Six so-called Republican SoS sign on to block Trump’s USPS ballot changes.
Brad Raffensperger, Secretary of State of Georgia Michael Adams, Secretary of State of Kentucky Michael Howe, Secretary of State of North Dakota Monae Johnson, Secretary of State of South Dakota David Scanlan, Secretary of State of New Hampshire Scott Schwab, Secretary of State of Kansas Utah Lieutenant Governor Deidre Henderson You want to know why we can’t have secure elections? There you go. Surrender monkeys. Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (SqxZS) 53
>>Aside from the obvious goal of making all of humanity cogs in the infernal socialist machine, and destroying our individuality, these movements have diluted the importance of womanhood by making us interchangeable. . . . .
Also included in this: women being relegated to baby incubators for primarily gay couples*. Our Left, who is s keen on insisting it is Christian traditionalists who most mirror their "Handmaid" fiction, are much more closely turning women into Handmaids with the new surrogacy boom. As if making poor women incubate babies for a big payout wasn't bad enough, they treat said babies as a product that can be trashed if it proves to be defective. This dehumanizes and cheapens what is a wonderous process, turning it into human manufacturing. Ghoulish!! *It's also a trend for heterosexual couples, such as older women who have aged out of babymaking) Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:16 AM (rOKnE) Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2026 11:16 AM (2Cry5) 55
How alarming is it that a jury couldn't convict a mother who planned the murder of her three children but another jury /judge had no problem convicting another mother who let her five year old walk around alone in the gated neighborhood?
Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (KC5Lt) I think what got her convicted was the fact that she sent him to the pond. Of course, the kid (at 5) is already a competitive swimmer, so I don't see much risk there, but even that is beside the point. The point is that we've deliberately created a society which sees ANY risk to children as something to be mitigated/condemned/avoided. THAT is damaging people to an enormous degree, and we aren't even going to realize how badly for at least another generation. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:16 AM (PGK1w) 56
35 Breasticles are a big part of the difference.
Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM You know about the cup sizes? Posted by: Frank Costanza at September 10, 2026 11:17 AM (2Ez/1) 57
I believe the woman's words were:
“He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.” Which is maybe worse. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:14 AM (odBC9) You see, they are operating on a higher sympathetic plane, and you with your toxic masculinity cannot even begin to fathom their wisdom and their superiority to see things on that level, which is why they had to got tattle to a man to get things corrected. F'ing Karens are a scourge. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:17 AM (dK+Kv) 58
Yes. What I did write is that women are provided the tools. But they also have free will, so there is no guarantee. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (k5CNB) Free will is the clincher for just about everything. I've had conversations with friends in the past where I say something about 'God's plan' or 'everything happens for a reason' and 'free will' to which he response with "Well, if my life has been according to God's will, then f*ck him. My free will allows me to say that because he's got a whole lot of explaining to do." Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:17 AM (ccf/V) 59
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:16 AM (rOKnE)
All the handmaiden liars can't wait for Sharia to topple every female they ever felt jealous of. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:17 AM (b+pJs) 60
My mother tormented those around her without respite including my good humble self and even tried to strangle me at 12, claiming that she would not let me turn out like my brother (who I'm nothing like btw - he's an abusive retard lib dummy, go figure).
But my father, who I love and miss dearly, let her. So where does that put everyone. == Some women are stone cold killers. Look at the tik tok bitches. A good woman like a good man is a treasure. rule 1 is rule 1 for a fucking reason. Posted by: Rule 1 at September 10, 2026 11:17 AM (anL5R) 61
Brad Raffensperger, Secretary of State of Georgia
Michael Adams, Secretary of State of Kentucky Michael Howe, Secretary of State of North Dakota Monae Johnson, Secretary of State of South Dakota David Scanlan, Secretary of State of New Hampshire Scott Schwab, Secretary of State of Kansas Utah Lieutenant Governor Deidre Henderson You want to know why we can’t have secure elections? There you go. Surrender monkeys. Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (SqxZS) THOSE guys are FAGZ!!!! Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 10, 2026 11:18 AM (ccf/V) 62
Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (SqxZS)
Second comment that's off topic. Any chance you can talk about this stuff on your own blog and not threadjack this post? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:18 AM (k5CNB) 63
>>“He had the hardest time getting over the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.”
I literally can't wrap my head around the kind of mentality that it takes to come up with a statement like that. - - - I think her point was that he needed to get over the murders so that he could focus on the poor mother and her needs? Once again, the killer is the real victim, and we must help her. . . or something. Moral sickness. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:19 AM (rOKnE) 64
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (ccf/V)
I just wanted to watch you twitch. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:19 AM (dK+Kv) 65
Waiting for lunch time or parts
Women can be crazy radicals, even the Bolsheviks had some murderous women. Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2026 11:19 AM (5ZFmQ) 66
All this talk about the superiority of women and not a single mention of sammiches!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 10, 2026 11:19 AM (74zY1) 67
Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:16 AM (PGK1w)
I don't think she sent him to a pond but the pond was next to the feathers he hoped to collect. But you're right that everything is deemed a risk these days. I walked to school by myself when I was five. Yes it's a different time and that was in South Dakota but still. Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:19 AM (KC5Lt) 68
39 Posted by: Correction but not overcorrection at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (TbWk/)
My mother tormented those around her without respite including my good humble self and even tried to strangle me at 12, claiming that she would not let me turn out like my brother (who I'm nothing like btw - he's an abusive retard lib dummy, go figure). But my father, who I love and miss dearly, let her. So where does that put everyone. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (b+pJs) Yeah that's shitty. That abuser/enabler dynamic is not uncommon in dysfunctional families, and it can seriously fuck with your head being the kid on the receiving end. Posted by: Where it puts them I don't know at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (TbWk/) 69
I just wanted to watch you twitch. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:19 AM (dK+Kv) You cruel bastard......... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (ccf/V) 70
All this talk about the superiority of women and not a single mention of sammiches!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey We're too busy thinking about CBD's brisket. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (77rzZ) 71
The problem is there is room to have compassion for even the worst of the worst killer. Maybe not from our general human perch but that is after all the basis of Christianity. Christ forgave His own torturers and killers.
The problem is that truth is being weaponized by those who lack sufficient interest in God's existence, let alone His eternal wisdom. The Marxists love nothing more than twisting God's truth for their own demonic ends. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:22 AM (b+pJs) 72
>>All the handmaiden liars can't wait for Sharia to topple every female they ever felt jealous of.
Rush Limbaugh's undeniable truth #24: “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of American life.” Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (rOKnE) 73
Women are superior because they control or at least highly influence men. It was always a big lie of "feminism" that women were oppressed by men. Of course, the point of feminism wasn't to empower ladies. It was to empower leftwing oppression and communism.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (iFTx/) Agree 100%. The feminist movement from the gitgo was never about women. The same for global warming/climate change. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (g8Ew8) 74
We're too busy thinking about CBD's brisket. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (77rzZ) I just want to know if he's inviting Polk Salad Annie to bring the greens. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (ccf/V) 75
“He had the hardest time getting over the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.”
I literally can't wrap my head around the kind of mentality that it takes to come up with a statement like that. - - - I think her point was that he needed to get over the murders so that he could focus on the poor mother and her needs? Once again, the killer is the real victim, and we must help her. . . or something. Moral sickness. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:19 AM (rOKnE) Integral to that mindset is the idea that children, rather than being a blessing and a gift, are a burden that should be minimize for the Karen's fullest enjoyment of life. Of course she ended those three lives, who wouldn't have those same desires? It's bizarro world, but that is my best guess. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (dK+Kv) 76
I was fortunate that my mom was the anti-Karen probably to a fault but i wouldn't change anything.
Those were the days when parents didn't automatically take the kid's side when the kid was out of line. Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (KC5Lt) 77
Of course, the point of feminism wasn't to empower ladies. It was to empower leftwing oppression and communism.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (iFTx/) And they're the first ones to don the burka to appease their islhamist overlords. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (ccf/V) 78
You want to know why we can’t have secure elections? There you go. Surrender monkeys. Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (SqxZS) At least the Frogs have the DGSE thugs who sink hippy Greenpeace boats, and have the sense to have a Foreign Legion full of mercenary gangsters. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2026 11:24 AM (iqcvy) 79
You want to know why we can’t have secure elections? There you go. Surrender monkeys.
Posted by: Vengeance at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (SqxZS) Well, that would be concerning if anyone of those buffoons had a single ounce of control over the United States Postal Service, but since none of them do...meh... Posted by: Boswell at September 10, 2026 11:24 AM (NTVPI) 80
We're too busy thinking about CBD's brisket.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM Seriously. Did I read wagyu brisket? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:24 AM (Rm1ix) 81
We're too busy thinking about CBD's brisket.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (77rzZ) Are we not doing 'phrasing' anymore? Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:24 AM (PGK1w) 82
71 The problem is there is room to have compassion for even the worst of the worst killer.
Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:22 AM (b+pJs) Compassion but not adoration. The fandom is sick. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:24 AM (odBC9) 83
We're too busy thinking about CBD's brisket.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (77rzZ) I just want to know if he's inviting Polk Salad Annie to bring the greens. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (ccf/V) Just make sure he bags his meat before it goes in you. Posted by: I'm talking sous vide, you pervs at September 10, 2026 11:25 AM (TbWk/) 84
Thanks for your affirmation of good mothers CBD , and thanks to all the folks that didn't suggest that even all leftist women support Clancy. I think the internet magnifies angry voices and suggests everybody feels the same way about the Clancy case. I know a woman who's a mother and she is a Democrat voter . She's also in her early 70's and is appalled by Clancy and the jurors.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 10, 2026 11:25 AM (TMc8D) 85
Of course, the point of feminism wasn't to empower ladies. It was to empower leftwing oppression and communism.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (iFTx/) And they're the first ones to don the burka to appease their islhamist overlords. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (ccf/V) _________ Yea. As I said before, they wear the burka so they don't have to wear the handmaid outfit. Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:25 AM (iFTx/) 86
We're too busy thinking about CBD's brisket.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (77rzZ) - I just finished grilling 2 scrumptious picanhas. Couldn't resist, so I ate a slice. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (74zY1) 87
great essay CBD!
Posted by: DanMan at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (8uzBS) 88
Refer to my comment this morning about the Lindsey Clancy prosecutors. They're not quite up to par, according to some of the "experts" on social media sites and some newz outlets.
One apparently resembles some of the women in the jury. The look. Screams cat lady. Or whatever. The other one's purportedly a tranny. There are reports that the prosecution wasn't on the ball and seemed "lazy" during the trial. They very well may have been sympathetic to the accused. They certainly permitted a horrid jury pool to try the case. YMMV Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (2Cry5) 89
The problem is there is room to have compassion for even the worst of the worst killer. Maybe not from our general human perch but that is after all the basis of Christianity. Christ forgave His own torturers and killers.
The problem is that truth is being weaponized by those who lack sufficient interest in God's existence, let alone His eternal wisdom. The Marxists love nothing more than twisting God's truth for their own demonic ends. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:22 AM (b+pJs) That is not a problem from the 9 Angry Karens perspective. YOU are the problem, for failing to exercise (feminine) compassion, where the simple (masculine) goal was to analyze the expert testimony and factual evidence dispassionately and rationally conclude whether the admitted murderess was legally competent when she killed those three children. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (dK+Kv) 90
I had two mothers- one who died when my sister and I were very small and one who married our father and adopted us when we were still very young and raised us with our three brothers that she brought to the family.
Shortly before Mother died, I confessed to her that I sometimes felt guilty because I knew that E. must have loved us just as much as we loved our own babies, but I just couldn't remember her. She said not to worry- when she died the first thing she would do would be to find her and by the time I joined them, they would be best friends. Posted by: sal at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (f+FmA) 91
70 All this talk about the superiority of women and not a single mention of sammiches!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey We're too busy thinking about CBD's brisket. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 11:21 AM (77rzZ) I hope he's going to make enough for everybody. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (odBC9) 92
>>. . . But my father, who I love and miss dearly, let her.
So where does that put everyone. Oh, so sorry to hear that -- it must have been so horrible!! That is a lot to overcome. Wow. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:27 AM (rOKnE) 93
88 Refer to my comment this morning about the Lindsey Clancy prosecutors. They're not quite up to par, according to some of the "experts" on social media sites and some newz outlets.
One apparently resembles some of the women in the jury. The look. Screams cat lady. Or whatever. The other one's purportedly a tranny. There are reports that the prosecution wasn't on the ball and seemed "lazy" during the trial. They very well may have been sympathetic to the accused. They certainly permitted a horrid jury pool to try the case. YMMV Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (2Cry5) Do you know--I don't know: If there's a new trial, does that necessitate new prosecutors? Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:28 AM (odBC9) 94
I was fortunate that my mom was the anti-Karen probably to a fault but i wouldn't change anything.
Those were the days when parents didn't automatically take the kid's side when the kid was out of line. Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:23 AM (KC5Lt) Those days still exist, but it is an uphill battle, for sure. We refer to those instances as the mother failing to unlatch. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:28 AM (dK+Kv) 95
Compassion but not adoration. The fandom is sick.
Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:24 AM (odBC9) Yes. Highly trenchant. Lot of it going around. The day you discover it's not just "political", that it's not just Kirk or some insurance CEO they want dead, but children of 5, 3, and not 1, that's the day you say maybe it's time to get right with your Maker. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:28 AM (b+pJs) Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:29 AM (KC5Lt) 97
The problem is there is room to have compassion for even the worst of the worst killer.
== To me this is a category error. The issue is whether she has responsibility, or not, for her actions. You can be compassionate for SENTENCING. First you convict, the let the Judge, and possibly the governor sort the rest of it out. Compassion doesn't mean you are excused of responsibility. You still face the music. We put you in a nice jail for a long time. Posted by: YMMV and that's okay at September 10, 2026 11:29 AM (anL5R) 98
90 I had two mothers- one who died when my sister and I were very small and one who married our father and adopted us when we were still very young and raised us with our three brothers that she brought to the family.
Shortly before Mother died, I confessed to her that I sometimes felt guilty because I knew that E. must have loved us just as much as we loved our own babies, but I just couldn't remember her. She said not to worry- when she died the first thing she would do would be to find her and by the time I joined them, they would be best friends. Posted by: sal at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (f+FmA) Nice! Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:29 AM (odBC9) 99
But my father, who I love and miss dearly, let her.
So where does that put everyone. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (b+pJs) Glad you triumphed! Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:30 AM (dK+Kv) 100
Yea. As I said before, they wear the burka so they don't have to wear the handmaid outfit. Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:25 AM (iFTx/) Which no one has required them to wear. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:30 AM (ccf/V) 101
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Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:30 AM (odBC9) 102
Word to your mutha, CBD!
Posted by: Inogame at September 10, 2026 11:30 AM (53oGX) 103
“He had the hardest time getting over the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.”
I literally can't wrap my head around the kind of mentality that it takes to come up with a statement like that. We know it's crazy. I think the reason it's being reported- and this would NEVER have been reported on before Trump- is to wake up the Dems. Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 11:30 AM (Be6wp) 104
Refer to my comment this morning about the Lindsey Clancy prosecutors. They're not quite up to par, according to some of the "experts" on social media sites and some newz outlets.
One apparently resembles some of the women in the jury. The look. Screams cat lady. Or whatever. The other one's purportedly a tranny. There are reports that the prosecution wasn't on the ball and seemed "lazy" during the trial. They very well may have been sympathetic to the accused. They certainly permitted a horrid jury pool to try the case. YMMV Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (2Cry5) ___________ 1. Awful jury selection. Prosecutors sat a jury that had no chance -- ever -- of reaching a guilty verdict. Yes, I know: prosecutors don't always get the jury they want. But this jury might as well have been hand picked by the defense. No excuse for that. 2. Inexplicable trial strategy. As I said before, the prosecution witnesses all lined up to praise LC for being a "good mother," for "loving her kids," and other obsequious ball-licking. WTF? You can't win a prosecution if your witnesses basically testify for the defense. Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:32 AM (iFTx/) 105
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:27 AM (rOKnE)
Thanks Lizzy! I guess when you put it like that it is. Everyone has their cross to bear, I suppose. When I want to piss off Brit Lass i tell her she's just like her. 😀 Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:32 AM (b+pJs) 106
Sure, The Lord forgives.
However, if you do not beg for mercy and ask for forgiveness from deep within your heart, He knows and will banish you to Hell for eternity. Everyone seems to think they can just 'ask for forgiveness' and enter The Kingdom. Uh.....it's not that simple. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:32 AM (ccf/V) 107
>>The problem is there is room to have compassion for even the worst of the worst killer.
That's what prison ministry is for (not being sarcastic). Those crazy ladies on the jury thought that THEY could save Clancy. No. You are not Jesus, stay in your lanes. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:33 AM (rOKnE) 108
RIP Barry Melrose.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (+mpku) 109
In the sequence of God's creation, the steps go from simple to complex. Light and dark. Heavens and Earth. Seas and dry land. As He moves through the creation of plants, fish, birds, and animals it is building to a crescendo: mankind, created in the image of the Trinity.
And what comes last? Woman. She's is the most complex and the most beautiful. She is the pinnacle of all creation. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (2Ez/1) 110
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:30 AM (dK+Kv)
You're a real pal. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (b+pJs) 111
>>When I want to piss off Brit Lass i tell her she's just like her. 😀
Oh, d@mn, that's a killshot, lol. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (rOKnE) 112
Just found out that a wonderful friend of ours' dog has a cancerous lump. They'll surgically remove it, but don't know whether it's spread, or localized.
FFS........F*ck 2026 and F*ck cancer......... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (ccf/V) 113
The problem is there is room to have compassion for even the worst of the worst killer.
That's what prison ministry is for (not being sarcastic). Those crazy ladies on the jury thought that THEY could save Clancy. No. You are not Jesus, stay in your lanes. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:33 AM (rOKnE) What? Of course we aren't. Jesus was just another Christofascist white male oppressor. Posted by: Crazy ladies on the jury at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (TbWk/) 114
RIP Barry Melrose.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (+mpku) The best broadcast mullet ever. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (ccf/V) 115
So.
No prize for me. Posted by: RI Red at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (Edxq2) 116
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2. Inexplicable trial strategy. As I said before, the prosecution witnesses all lined up to praise LC for being a "good mother," for "loving her kids," and other obsequious ball-licking. WTF? You can't win a prosecution if your witnesses basically testify for the defense. Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:32 AM (iFTx/) Maybe another sort of category error: The prosecution's job was not to weigh in on the good or bad of the mother, but on the murder. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (odBC9) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (dK+Kv) 118
That link between mother and child -- that hopefully the art of the past four days has illuminated
That picture this morning is going to be hard to beat. It would have chased the demons out of the jurors had they been forced to deliberate in its presence. Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (Be6wp) 119
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:32 AM (iFTx/)
I reluctantly have to agree even though I think it was so cute and dry that Lancelot Link, monkey prosecutor could get a conviction. I think their error was not focusing on what it takes to get a not guilty by insanity defense. It's my understanding that if the defendant knew without a doubt what they did was wrong then the insanity defense is moot. Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (KC5Lt) 120
You're a real pal.
Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (b+pJs) Thanks, buddy. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (dK+Kv I'm not your buddy, champ. Posted by: Trying to get something started at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (TbWk/) 121
90 She said not to worry- when she died the first thing she would do would be to find her and by the time I joined them, they would be best friends.
Posted by: sal at September 10, 2026 11:26 AM (f+FmA) There I go getting verklempt again. My mother would have been 103 today but died at 82 years young. The older I get the more I realize how blessed I was to have the parents I did. Posted by: TxAnn at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (SjAWL) 122
And I never wrote that women are morally pure. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 11:09 AM (k5CNB) I see women in line for Confession and I wonder, "What could you possibly be here for?" I have no insight in that matter. Men? Everyone knows what they're in line to confess. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (eRlcH) 123
Seriously. Did I read wagyu brisket? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 11:24 AM (Rm1ix) It IS how the 'other half' lives....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:37 AM (ccf/V) 124
She is the pinnacle of all gladiator movies.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 10, 2026 11:37 AM (eWmxW) 125
Maybe another sort of category error: The prosecution's job was not to weigh in on the good or bad of the mother, but on the murder.
Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (odBC9) The murder was conceded. The acts were admitted. The only question was whether she was legally competent. I am with the Blade. You don't start by building up the murderer as a good person. The theme should have been how calculating and manipulative she was, because no rational juror wants to be manipulated. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:38 AM (dK+Kv) 126
2. Inexplicable trial strategy. As I said before, the prosecution witnesses all lined up to praise LC for being a "good mother," for "loving her kids," and other obsequious ball-licking. WTF? You can't win a prosecution if your witnesses basically testify for the defense.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:32 AM (iFTx/) Maybe another sort of category error: The prosecution's job was not to weigh in on the good or bad of the mother, but on the murder. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:35 AM (odBC9) Hold it! Posted by: Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney at September 10, 2026 11:38 AM (TbWk/) 127
I've noted this before, but women were fed a bill of goods that men were keeping all kinds of fulfillment and joy away from women by preventing them from being in the workplace.
So women DEMANDED that they be allowed into the workforce and not "forced" to stay at home with babies. And they are now, as a whole, far more stressed, far less happy, and have far fewer children... while the increase in available workers has held down wages, so living on a single income is also far harder... making more women have to work and become far more stressed, far less happy, and have far fewer children... Gee. It's almost as if taking on the curse of men in addition to the curse of women was a bad idea! Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2026 11:38 AM (N1tpc) Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 10, 2026 11:38 AM (+mpku) 129
I'm not your buddy, champ. Posted by: Trying to get something started at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (TbWk/) It's 'guy.' I'm not your buddy GUY...... I'm not your guy friend....... I'm not your friend buddy....... etcetera etcetera....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (ccf/V) 130
From one of the female jurors in the clancy case:
“He had the hardest time getting over the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.” I literally can't wrap my head around the kind of mentality that it takes to come up with a statement like that. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 10, 2026 11:12 AM (I43vL) That's because you are not a Superior Being who has risen above the muddy wallow of the common herd and can discern the bright and glittering soul inside the monstrous and horrible child murder, and forgive all. Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (iJfKG) 131
I'm not your buddy, champ.
Posted by: Trying to get something started at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (TbWk/) ------------ I'm not your champ, sport. Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (2UnvF) 132
122 Men? Everyone knows what they're in line to confess.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (eRlcH) wrath, greed, pride, envy, sloth, lust, and/or gluttony Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (odBC9) 133
Damn straight. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 10, 2026 11:38 AM (+mpku) F*ck Parkinson's too....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (ccf/V) 134
Powerful words, cBD. Thanks.
Yet another aspect of all this to consider is the all too common notion that a woman can raise a child on her own, outside of marriage. This creates the false belief that the child can fulfill all of the mother's need for love, unconditional love. When that child fails to meet that expectation, what does the single mom do? Have another baby? Smother the first baby with overweening attention? Smother that first baby with a blanket for rejecting her? Look for love in all the wrong places? That expectation of unconditional love is a horrible burden to put on a child. Posted by: muldoon at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (qgHp7) 135
The Left always pick the worst of the worst cases to fuck with everyone's head.
Like if this woman flipped out, attacked the husband, killed one kid, cut herself, jumped and paralyzed her own ass, could I buy psychosis? Yeah I think I could. Does that mean I wouldn't want her "punished"? Maybe. That's the point of psychosis. We know it's a legitimate thing that happens to people and we used to lock those people away, not in cell block C. But this thing... this is a horse of a most different and agonizing color. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (b+pJs) 136
"Well, if my life has been according to God's will, then f*ck him. My free will allows me to say that because he's got a whole lot of explaining to do."
Posted by: Sponge ======= I don't think your friend will like the Book of Job very much but his answer lies in it. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (E4rtv) 137
And they are now, as a whole, far more stressed, far less happy, and have far fewer children... while the increase in available workers has held down wages, so living on a single income is also far harder... making more women have to work and become far more stressed, far less happy, and have far fewer children...
Gee. It's almost as if taking on the curse of men in addition to the curse of women was a bad idea! == But we have twice as many workers to tax!!! Posted by: Your super helpful Government at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (anL5R) 138
And what comes last? Woman. She's is the most complex and the most beautiful. She is the pinnacle of all creation. Posted by: Quarter Twenty OW, my rib! Posted by: Adam at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (Cqx++) 139
Blame the attorney all you like.
The bitch admitted to tricking her husband into leaving for long enough for her to murder the three kids. It's black letter premeditated murder. The jury is to blame. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (BI5O2) 140
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That's because you are not a Superior Being who has risen above the muddy wallow of the common herd and can discern the bright and glittering soul inside the monstrous and horrible child murder, and forgive all. Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (iJfKG) ======= So...the uberfrau. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (qE8uT) 141
I don't think your friend will like the Book of Job very much but his answer lies in it.
Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (E4rtv) Yep. I tell him all the time I'm being tested, as is the First Lady, but we persist, move forward and just keep living as we can. I don't know why......but there it is. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:41 AM (ccf/V) 142
>>What? Of course we aren't. Jesus was just another Christofascist white male oppressor.
Posted by: Crazy ladies on the jury Heh. What's sad is that the progressives, exhibit A being that weirdo Tallerico, think they are better than the "judgmental" Jesus. They have to reinterpret (and take out of context) the scripture for modern times because they are more compassionate than God and Jesus. They care MORE you guyz!! Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 11:42 AM (rOKnE) 143
So...the uberfrau.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (qE8uT) Sounds like a microbrew. Posted by: Try new Uberfrau IPA, extra bitter at September 10, 2026 11:42 AM (TbWk/) 144
Ok
Enough of this. I've got to get some work done. Be excellent to each other. Except Sid. He earns ridicule. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:42 AM (ccf/V) 145
Men? Everyone knows what they're in line to confess.
Posted by: Hadrian wrath, greed, pride, envy, sloth, lust, and/or gluttony Posted by: m Dammit, I usually bring my list with me. Now I have to get back in line... Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 11:42 AM (Be6wp) 146
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:38 AM (dK+Kv)
If - hypothetical - if - the prosecution fucked up that bad - then I can't sincerely blame any juror. A juror's job is not to decide shit is proven if it's not. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:42 AM (b+pJs) 147
I don't know why......but there it is.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:41 AM (ccf/V) Ours is not to reason why... Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:44 AM (PGK1w) 148
As a parent, what she did was unpardonable, unforgivable and not understandable at any level of analysis.
The lone holdout did an mans job and should be get a freaking Roman Triumph in his honor. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2026 11:44 AM (XV/Pl) 149
don't know why......but there it is.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 11:41 AM (ccf/V) Ours is not to reason why... Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:44 AM (PGK1w) Ours is but to drink Bud Dry Posted by: Throwback Thursday at September 10, 2026 11:45 AM (TbWk/) 150
It's black letter premeditated murder.
The jury is to blame. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 11:40 AM (BI5O2) Both can be true, but yeah. The one juror admitted that many of the jurors were headlong for acquittal from the beginning, even before hearing any evidence or testimony. They were derelict in their duty. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:46 AM (dK+Kv) 151
Under the Constitution of Mongolia and the Law on Encouraging Mothers Who Have Given Birth to and Raised Many Children, President of Mongolia Khurelsukh Ukhnaa decreed to confer the Order of Maternal Glory to mothers, in celebration of the upcoming International Children’s Day.
This year, a total of 14,480 mothers across the country will receive First- and Second-Class Order of Maternal Glory. Among today’s recipients, most are 34–39 years old, with the youngest being 22. The President underlined that the Order of Maternal Glory symbolizes a mother’s boundless love and dedication to her children’s well-being, and expressed heartfelt gratitude to all recipients. https://tinyurl.com/2nr87c4d Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 10, 2026 11:46 AM (C0oZI) 152
My mom had that painting framed and hanging in our living room when we (myself and six siblings) were growing up. She's 107 and still living, going to visit her today. She still likes to have a glass of wine and a bit of popcorn now and then.
Posted by: Giles Overreach at September 10, 2026 11:47 AM (cOor7) 153
As a parent, what she did was unpardonable, unforgivable and not understandable at any level of analysis.
The lone holdout did an mans job and should be get a freaking Roman Triumph in his honor. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2026 11:44 AM (XV/Pl) Shouldn't he be shamed and hounded for not knowing his place and bending the knee to all those superior women? Posted by: Sarcasm with extra sarcasm at September 10, 2026 11:47 AM (TbWk/) 154
The prosecution didn't give the lone juror anything to hang his hat on when debating the case with the other jurors .
Maybe I'm just incorrect in the legal definition of what it takes to be deemed not guilty via temporary insanity. Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:47 AM (KC5Lt) 155
I think their error was not focusing on what it takes to get a not guilty by insanity defense. It's my understanding that if the defendant knew without a doubt what they did was wrong then the insanity defense is moot.
Posted by: polynikes Not quite. Mass has a rather stupid state standard set in Commonwealth v. McHoul (1967) where once the burden of proof by showing the judge that a defense of not guilty by reason of insanity is reasonable, then the STATE has the burden of proof to show beyond a reasonable doubt that person was sane enough to comprehend their actions and decided to do it anyway in going forward with the murders at the time when the murders happened. Comes from the idiots at the Model Penal Code project. M'Naughten std from the 1800's British law, on the other hand, requires a defendant has to prove insanity under the clear and convincing evidence std (highest in civil law) that the defendant was insane at the time of the murder. Most states follow some form of M'Naughten test. A few allow a guilty but insane verdict which commits the person to a mental hospital to serve out their sentence. Personally, I think this is the way. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:47 AM (E4rtv) 156
And, to extend CBD's point, that women are superior and nurturing is exactly why the Clancy rhubarb exemplifies our cultural crisis, the rotten core of American modernity.
Women need to reclaim their rightful place, and demand men do the same. Teaching American values of self-reliance and self-improvement, freedom, and civic responsibility to small children is infinitely superior than teaching "empathy" and "tolerance". Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2026 11:48 AM (GMf4a) 157
Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (KC5Lt) I think what got her convicted was the fact that she sent him to the pond. Of course, the kid (at 5) is already a competitive swimmer, so I don't see much risk there, but even that is beside the point. The point is that we've deliberately created a society which sees ANY risk to children as something to be mitigated/condemned/avoided. THAT is damaging people to an enormous degree, and we aren't even going to realize how badly for at least another generation. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:16 AM (PGK1w) Especially when a 5 year old autistic kid just drowned in a pond b/c both parents purposely provided the kid the opportunity to do so... I would not have convicted mom or even charged mom. But, a 5 year old is not allowed to go to a pool alone. Normally, you must be able to swim and be 9 in my area. And a pool has lifeguards - a pond doesn't. So, a rethink on sending an older buddy (b/c he had siblings) or sending him where there was no possible water was probably a better idea... I let my kids roam...but I always did it in stages to get neighbors used to it... Posted by: Nova Local at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM (tOcjL) 158
If - hypothetical - if - the prosecution fucked up that bad - then I can't sincerely blame any juror. A juror's job is not to decide shit is proven if it's not.
Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:42 AM (b+pJs) You can. See 150. They were predetermined to acquit, and they browbeat the rest of the jurors for an acquittal. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM (dK+Kv) 159
I miss my mom. She passed away when I was a teen. She had her faults, but she taught me how to be a gentleman.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM (2WIwB) 160
The glory of child-bearing and rearing has become a perceived burden...one that interferes with the hedonism of a post-modern world.
-- Perfectly stated Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM (EGSGm) 161
This is hateful fascistic racist transphobic speech!!!!
Men too can have kids. And children are gross anyway. Posted by: AWFLs at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM (Y08do) 162
154 The prosecution didn't give the lone juror anything to hang his hat on when debating the case with the other jurors .
Posted by: polynikes FWIW, only the hags have spoken and I don't think they are credible in anyway. And what's worse, they admitted that they followed a nurse's tales in the jury room over pharmacology rather than the evidence presented at trial which is juror misconduct that could and should warrant a contempt of court for that misconduct. This is the shit show that blue states have sunk to. Third world justice based on tribal identities rather than justice. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:50 AM (E4rtv) 163
155 Not quite. Mass has a rather stupid state standard set in Commonwealth v. McHoul (1967) where once the burden of proof by showing the judge that a defense of not guilty by reason of insanity is reasonable, then the STATE has the burden of proof to show beyond a reasonable doubt that person was sane enough to comprehend their actions and decided to do it anyway in going forward with the murders at the time when the murders happened. Comes from the idiots at the Model Penal Code project.
M'Naughten std from the 1800's British law, on the other hand, requires a defendant has to prove insanity under the clear and convincing evidence std (highest in civil law) that the defendant was insane at the time of the murder. Most states follow some form of M'Naughten test. A few allow a guilty but insane verdict which commits the person to a mental hospital to serve out their sentence. Personally, I think this is the way. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:47 AM (E4rtv) ======= Sounds like it's the judge's fault for allowing the stupid standard to apply in this case. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 10, 2026 11:50 AM (qE8uT) 164
while the increase in available workers has held down wages, so living on a single income is also far harder... making more women have to work and become far more stressed, far less happy
----- There is a school of thought that a significant portion of the "women's rights" were a kind of op, or manipulation of mass opinion for "other purposes" as it were. It's difficult to believe but there was a time in America where a single breadwinner could earn enough income in a unskilled labor job to support a family. Not in "high style", but he could purchase a home, buy a car, and maybe get a vacation once in a while. Mom stayed home with the kids. There were millions of middle class neighborhoods like this. Delivering Milk, the Milkman. Or at a meatpacking house. Or a foundry worker. Loggers, miners, boilermakers, welders, factory assemblers. All that has been hollowed out through overseas "free trade"; and at the same time, millions of unskilled laborers have driven wages stagnant since the 1970s. Doubling the number of people in the workforce effectively quashed wages as well. Now you see parents trying to work two jobs, and pay for day care at the same time. Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2026 11:50 AM (X/q9i) 165
Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:47 AM (E4rtv)
My point yesterday is that even with the higher burden of proof (that she was sane beyond a reasonable doubt) the case was still open and shut. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 10, 2026 11:50 AM (Y/06r) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 10, 2026 11:50 AM (C0oZI) 167
I'd honestly be a bit surprised if the state makes an effort to try Clancy again. They apparently are borderline incompetents at the prosecutor's office there, so what would be the reason to go through this shit yet again?
The woman's got a miserable existence moving forward. I figure she'll finish herself off in the next several months. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2026 11:51 AM (2Cry5) 168
Woman.
She's is the most complex and the most beautiful. She is the pinnacle of all creation. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 10, 2026 11:34 AM (2Ez/1) Did your wife make you write that? Is she holding you hostage? Blink twice for yes. Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 11:51 AM (dpXJq) 169
164 It's difficult to believe but there was a time in America where a single breadwinner could earn enough income in a unskilled labor job to support a family. Not in "high style", but he could purchase a home, buy a car, and maybe get a vacation once in a while. Mom stayed home with the kids. There were millions of middle class neighborhoods like this.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2026 11:50 AM (X/q9i) ======= Kevin's dad in Home Alone was the sole breadwinner in the family, and he owned that house with that many kids and took his extended family to Paris for a Christmas vacation. I suspect he's actually a crack dealer. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 10, 2026 11:52 AM (qE8uT) 170
'm not your buddy, champ.
Posted by: Trying to get something started at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (TbWk/) ------------ I'm not your champ, sport. Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (2UnvF) I am not your sport, hoss! Posted by: runner at September 10, 2026 11:52 AM (AKptf) 171
Both can be true, but yeah. The one juror admitted that many of the jurors were headlong for acquittal from the beginning, even before hearing any evidence or testimony. They were derelict in their duty.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:46 AM (dK+Kv) They Couldn't Understand Normal (jury) Training. Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2026 11:52 AM (wVcYX) 172
154 The prosecution didn't give the lone juror anything to hang his hat on when debating the case with the other jurors .
Posted by: polynikes ================= The prosecution was way too sympathetic to the killer, in the short clips I saw. In her summation, the prosecutor even acknowledged how terrible the events were for the defendant, instead of condemning her and demanding her imprisonment. Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (GMf4a) 173
158 If - hypothetical - if - the prosecution fucked up that bad - then I can't sincerely blame any juror. A juror's job is not to decide shit is proven if it's not.
Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:42 AM (b+pJs) You can. See 150. They were predetermined to acquit, and they browbeat the rest of the jurors for an acquittal. Posted by: Comrade Flounder Ellipsis, from legal observers on the trial, the prosecution put forth a case based on logic and facts while the jurors were already trying to browbeat other jurors apparently even before deliberations began by one juror (the anonymous female that supported the holdout). That again is juror misconduct. You cannot deliberate anything on the case before being formally charged with jury instructions and paying attention to the trial. I suspect too that at least one maybe more were googling shit on the case outside of the evidence presented. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (E4rtv) 174
How can one who murders another in cold blood be sane?
She murdered the babies. She is a murderer. Time to go, Clancy. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (C0oZI) 175
The glory of child-bearing and rearing has become a perceived burden...one that interferes with the hedonism of a post-modern world.
-- Perfectly stated Posted by: vmom deport deport stab deport at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM I'm right here, you know. Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (Rm1ix) 176
167 I'd honestly be a bit surprised if the state makes an effort to try Clancy again. They apparently are borderline incompetents at the prosecutor's office there, so what would be the reason to go through this shit yet again?
The woman's got a miserable existence moving forward. I figure she'll finish herself off in the next several months. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2026 11:51 AM (2Cry5) ======= I suspect that the case was considered easy and relatively low priority by the DA's office when it first came to them, so they gave it to fat DEI hire because no way could she screw it up. Then she screwed up on every single stage of things and turned an open and shut murder trial into a national controversy. If the DA's office does it again...it'll be with another attorney. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (qE8uT) 177
Her actions were cold, calculated and pre-meditated, she was sane and of sound, if evil, mind when she perpetrated those heinous acts.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (XV/Pl) 178
Salient point CBD AND I can't argue with your points! How rare!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (MYzks) 179
I'd also like to see the jury instructions. They are often overlooked but they are absolutely critical to the case.
The jury's job is to apply their opinions of the evidence to the "law" as instructed by the judge. If the judge instructs the jury, "You are to find the defendant not guilty if she wears a revealing dress," and the defendant one day wears a mini with a heavy drop top, then the jury is to apply that to the (obviously nonsensical) instruction and acquit. MA also appears to have a broader "insanity defense" that is more favorable to the defense than the majority of other states. MA does not follow the classic "M'Naghten rule." No, I'm not defending the jury verdict in this case. At least one of the jurors was an insane Karen that never should have been on the jury. (The one that gave that interview.) But without knowing the full jury instructions, I can't evaluate the other jurors as to whether they conceivably did their job or not. Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 10, 2026 11:54 AM (iFTx/) 180
You can. See 150. They were predetermined to acquit, and they browbeat the rest of the jurors for an acquittal.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM (dK+Kv) But if the prosecution was so incompetent, you and I can't say for certain what people would do had they proven their case. We can surmise. We can have our opinion. Hell we can "know" in ourselves. But it was the prosecutions job to present the compelling case. Without it I can't safely blame anyone for acquitting short of them explicitly announcing nothing would ever change their mind. They didn't get the chance to have their mind changed. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 11:54 AM (b+pJs) 181
172 The prosecution was way too sympathetic to the killer, in the short clips I saw. In her summation, the prosecutor even acknowledged how terrible the events were for the defendant, instead of condemning her and demanding her imprisonment.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2026 11:53 AM (GMf4a) ======== Fat DEI hire wants to kill her own kids someday, probably. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, discovering British horror with Hammer Films at September 10, 2026 11:54 AM (qE8uT) 182
I'm not your buddy, champ.
Posted by: Trying to get something started at September 10, 2026 11:36 AM (TbWk/) ------------ I'm not your champ, sport. Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2026 11:39 AM (2UnvF) I'm not your turd, asshole. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2026 11:54 AM (g8Ew8) 183
159 I miss my mom. She passed away when I was a teen. She had her faults, but she taught me how to be a gentleman.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2026 11:49 AM (2WIwB) {bro hug}. Miss mine, too. Just one more hug. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 10, 2026 11:54 AM (N39Ws) 184
Now one thing that will strike someone as significant if you read period articles from the "social planners" in the 1950s and 1960s was how strong the middle class was in America. Most countries are starkly divided. The very rich and wealthy, and abject poverty, no in between. None.
The "experts" allowed that Americans had a strong belief in God, generally, and a robust church attendance. And the family unit was going to be a tough nut to crack. "Well, it worked, didn't it?" Harry Reid. They have successfully decimated the strong family unit, single breadwinner employment, and Motherhood. Church attendance? I'm sure it has cratered. What's left is whack job purple haired lunatics bitching at me about my lawnmower is destroying the planet. It's all so painfully obvious if you know what you're looking at, and it cannot be unseen. Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2026 11:54 AM (X/q9i) Mid-Morning Art Thread![]() Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Fat baby
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 10, 2026 09:30 AM (IT8WN) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2026 09:30 AM (eRlcH) 3
Chunky.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 09:31 AM (Rm1ix) 4
Nooded.
Posted by: Nazdar at September 10, 2026 09:31 AM (NcvvS) 5
Mornin', nurse!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 09:31 AM (Rm1ix) 6
3 Chunky.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 09:31 AM (Rm1ix) Not missing any meals. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 10, 2026 09:31 AM (Y/06r) 7
I love it. And I usually am not a fan of religious art.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2026 09:32 AM (pIyof) 8
Is that a hookah?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 10, 2026 09:32 AM (Y/06r) 9
Wegovy ad.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 10, 2026 09:33 AM (w1NC6) 10
The Art Thread this week appears to be backlash to the Clancy non-verdict.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! at September 10, 2026 09:34 AM (ndZc7) 11
I guess it's not feeding time.
Posted by: No boobage at September 10, 2026 09:34 AM (2Ez/1) 12
Baby needs Thigh Master.
Posted by: Diddler at September 10, 2026 09:34 AM (H6Y/1) 13
would not hang too elbow-centric
Posted by: Gref at September 10, 2026 09:34 AM (5rh/l) 14
Madonna and Chunky Monkey. This is absolutely Art. Beautiful.
Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 09:34 AM (Be6wp) 15
Jeez, kid. Leg day. It's a thing.
Posted by: Bethlehem CrossFit Club at September 10, 2026 09:35 AM (2Ez/1) 16
OK, that's a 35lb.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's Political Campaign at September 10, 2026 09:35 AM (BI5O2) 17
A definite and appropriate theme this week.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2026 09:36 AM (UJfh6) Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's Political Campaign at September 10, 2026 09:36 AM (BI5O2) 19
The Art Thread this week appears to be backlash to the Clancy non-verdict.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Gird Your Loins! Yes. Some very nice paintings. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (+mpku) 20
Nice painting. Chunky baby
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (uTFcg) 21
15 Jeez, kid. Leg day. It's a thing.
Posted by: Bethlehem CrossFit Club at September 10, 2026 09:35 AM (2Ez/1) He's not even walking yet. He's probably not going to be doing full plates on the rack. Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (Y/06r) 22
She seems to be flaunting her halo privilege.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (2Ez/1) 23
Wegovy ad.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 10, 2026 *** The Renaissance of Jardiance! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (wzUl9) Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (77rzZ) 25
I hate this phone keyboard. I give up. I'll just let it do whatever it wants from now one.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's Political Campaign at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (BI5O2) 26
Who would have thought the bible and Jane Eyre would work so well together?
Posted by: Oglebay at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (2ap+5) 27
And it's Fat Baby week here on the somewhat Vibrant Art Thread. CBD's gruff exterior has given way to becoming an Old Softee. It will take me a while to get used to.
Posted by: Nice Guys Finish Last-Leo Durocher at September 10, 2026 09:37 AM (Fn+3X) 28
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Our Lady, therefore art. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2026 09:30 AM (eRlcH) 100% agree. Nicely done. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 10, 2026 09:38 AM (N39Ws) 29
I am loving the theme this week.
Very fitting. Posted by: redridinghood at September 10, 2026 09:38 AM (NpAcC) 30
That fat baby loves you.
Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 09:38 AM (b+pJs) Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 10, 2026 09:39 AM (Y/06r) 32
A copy hangs in the reception room of my childhood church. Posted by: Auspex at September 10, 2026 09:40 AM (Y8DZL) 33
Another lovely mother and child portrait, this time by one of the great masters. Thanks CBD,
Posted by: Tuna at September 10, 2026 09:40 AM (lJ0H4) Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 10, 2026 09:40 AM (+mpku) 35
If the painting were square or rectangular, there would be room for a small dog.
Posted by: Piss-Poor-Planning at September 10, 2026 09:41 AM (Fn+3X) 36
Oh, wait. John has a halo, too. Had to zoom in to see it.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 10, 2026 09:41 AM (2Ez/1) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 10, 2026 09:42 AM (1TCIS) 38
Very sweet face of the Madonna and I really like the color contrast in her dress.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 10, 2026 09:42 AM (xSAlF) Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 09:43 AM (Rm1ix) Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2026 09:43 AM (iJfKG) 41
Mom is playing to the camera.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 10, 2026 09:43 AM (2Ez/1) Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 09:45 AM (BI5O2) 43
This is absolutely Art. Beautiful.
Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 09:34 AM (Be6wp) Agreed. This Raphael fellow is shaping up...he might turn out to be good someday. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 09:45 AM (k5CNB) 44
Back in the day, I knew a lot of families who had a copy of this on the wall.
Morning, all. A lovely 70-odd degrees here at Stately Poppins Manor. Hope it's just as lovely where you are. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 09:45 AM (qRla/) 45
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 10, 2026 09:30 AM (IT8WN)
**hand kiss** Good morning, lovely lady. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 09:46 AM (qRla/) 46
The SS Raffaello was a lovely ship built by the Italian Line for transatlantic service. It's sister ship was the SS Michelangelo. You could see them tied up at the pier on West Street in Manhattan often in the 60s. They were not financial successes as the era of sailing to Europe was eclipsed by Boeing 707 travel.
Posted by: Atsa My Boat! at September 10, 2026 09:47 AM (Fn+3X) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 10, 2026 09:47 AM (1TCIS) 48
There appears to be a cross on John's left shoulder.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 10, 2026 09:47 AM (2Ez/1) Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2026 09:47 AM (ZxPkt) 50
Morning, all. A lovely 70-odd degrees here at Stately Poppins Manor. Hope it's just as lovely where you are.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 09:45 AM Fine day, here. Shaping up to be a bit hot for September, but I'll take it for now. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 09:47 AM (Rm1ix) 51
Did one of the Ninja Turtles paint this?
Posted by: Pvt Wierzbowski aka Quilters Irish Death at September 10, 2026 09:49 AM (H+Gci) 52
Religious art is not my thing.
Baby Jesus is a real butterball in this one. Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2026 09:47 AM (ZxPkt) He's also a good 42" tall, or so. Gargantuan Jesus. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 09:49 AM (BI5O2) 53
Hate that kid!
Posted by: Herodias at September 10, 2026 09:49 AM (Fn+3X) 54
Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino
*********** Even the great artists seemed to struggle with baby and toddler bodily proportions. I wonder if it had to do with who they used as models... The legs have almost achondroplastic dwarf-like proportions. Posted by: muldoon at September 10, 2026 09:50 AM (qgHp7) 55
Off to fold some clothes until comment 100.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 09:50 AM (qRla/) 56
Fattening the kid up for those 40 days in the wilderness.
Posted by: Roy at September 10, 2026 09:50 AM (qwype) Posted by: muldoon at September 10, 2026 09:51 AM (qgHp7) 58
Sweet!
Love that stage in the first year when the baby is a super-chunk! A growth spurt is happening soon. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 09:51 AM (rOKnE) 59
Ask your cosmetic surgeon if Achondroplastic is right for you.
Posted by: Fat Fluffy Farma at September 10, 2026 09:52 AM (2Ez/1) 60
I enjoy Raphael's larger crowd scenes like his School of Athens. In many of his portraits the facial expressions are a bit wooden, typical for the time and something I mention often enough. This painting is different. The expressions are natural and realistic. The skin tones are soft, pleasant. Look at the slight blush on Mary's cheek. Their eyes are lively and Mary's direct look at the viewer is riveting. The colors of Raphael's sunlit outdoor scenes are vibrant in an eye catching way. The colors here are still rich but softer, appropriate to an intimate, indoor setting.
It is a remarkable, gentle family portrait. Even without the religious aspects it would be wonderful and touching. Posted by: JTB at September 10, 2026 09:52 AM (yTvNw) 61
momz has this hanging somewhere. loves her some icon stuff. visited romania just to see some.
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 09:52 AM (Bep7s) 62
Diet of locusts and honey would probably be hard to gain weight on.
Posted by: Ayds Diet Candy at September 10, 2026 09:53 AM (Fn+3X) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 10, 2026 09:53 AM (1TCIS) 64
1 it's just the left leg. early on set lymphatic filariasis.
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 09:54 AM (Bep7s) 65
10 already stated not.
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 09:54 AM (Bep7s) 66
58 Sweet!
Love that stage in the first year when the baby is a super-chunk! A growth spurt is happening soon. Posted by: Lizzy Right!!! They chunk out and then grow three inches in a month. It’s insane. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 10, 2026 09:55 AM (1TCIS) 67
My daughter was nearly 10 lbs. at birth, like 3 weeks late. Chunky like this until crawling, walking. Lean, fit and strong ever since.
Posted by: Memories of 1987 at September 10, 2026 09:57 AM (Fn+3X) 68
Madonna of the chair? And what a chair it is. Must be sturdy, too.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 10, 2026 09:58 AM (j6nUo) 69
48 There appears to be a cross on John's left shoulder.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 10, 2026 09:47 AM (2Ez/1) Seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders. Posted by: 88C+u at September 10, 2026 09:59 AM (88C+u) Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 10, 2026 10:01 AM (j6nUo) 71
Diet of locusts and honey
*********** I think that's the wrong John. The title says St. John who was John the Apostle. Diet of locusts and honey John was John the Baptist. I initially thought it was John the Baptist because of the similarity of the ages. John in the painting has hands in a worshipful pose and a crucifix over his shoulder. I could be mistaken. Posted by: muldoon at September 10, 2026 10:01 AM (qgHp7) 72
Seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders.
Posted by: 88C+u For now! Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 10, 2026 10:01 AM *nods in foreshadow* Posted by: Herod at September 10, 2026 10:03 AM (Rm1ix) 73
71 so not the one herodius had killed?
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 10:04 AM (Bep7s) 74
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:04 AM (ccf/V) 75
Right!!! They chunk out and then grow three inches in a month. It’s insane.
Posted by: nurse ratched Babies. Gotta love them. Posted by: Tuna at September 10, 2026 10:05 AM (lJ0H4) 76
This CBD guy is determined to make us rough folk some version of art literate.
Posted by: RI Red at September 10, 2026 10:05 AM (E9nGU) 77
The children are sacred. May those that harm the Gift from God spend eternity in regret.
And pain......LOTS of pain...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:05 AM (ccf/V) Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 10, 2026 10:05 AM (zdLoL) 79
Had the idea John the Apostle was the youngest of the crew, in which case he wasn't born yet.
John the Baptist is consistently associated with Jesus' infancy in the Infancy Gospel of James and of course in Luke. Posted by: 88C+u at September 10, 2026 10:06 AM (88C+u) 80
Seems Mother's Milk is high in fat content.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:06 AM (ccf/V) Posted by: dantesed at September 10, 2026 10:06 AM (Oy/m2) 82
I just can't accept our Lord and Savoir was a chubby baby.
It's not a badly done painting I just don't enjoy it. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at September 10, 2026 10:07 AM (xcxpd) 83
Religious art is not my thing.
------- As is your prerogative. However it's worth noting Christianity has produced some of the most beautiful art, music and architecture in the history of the world. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 10:07 AM (b+pJs) 84
I chunked out a few times after a night of hard partying in my college days.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:07 AM (77rzZ) 85
They chunk out??
Is that the medical term used in hospitals? Posted by: dantesed at September 10, 2026 10:06 AM It's an industry term. Posted by: Mona Lisa Vito at September 10, 2026 10:08 AM (Rm1ix) 86
Seems Mother's Milk is high in fat content.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:06 AM (ccf/V) Mother’s Milk - it’s what’s for breakfast. Lunch and dinner, too. Posted by: RI Red at September 10, 2026 10:08 AM (E9nGU) 87
"smoking incense stencher"
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 10:08 AM (Bep7s) 88
Seems Mother's Milk is high in fat content.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:06 AM (ccf/V) If that's the case then call me Rosie O'Donnell Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 10:09 AM (b+pJs) 89
Jesus and John The Baptist were first cousins, so this is most likely NOT the Apostle John who penned "In the beginning was The Word..."
Posted by: You could ask Elizabeth at September 10, 2026 10:10 AM (2Ez/1) 90
>>Babies. Gotta love them.
Yes, yes we do! I really appreciate this theme, CBD. Such relief amidst the ghouls who hate motherhood. Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2026 10:11 AM (rOKnE) 91
Madonna and Child with St. John (known as Madonna of the Chair)
Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino Mary holding the Christ Child while a young John the Baptist watches and prays from the right. Mary sits in a sedia camerale (a papal chamber chair) rather than a rustic seat, blending divine holiness with human maternal warmth. A lovely, uplifting painting, circa 1513–1514, likely for Pope Leo X. It's housed in the Palatine Gallery of the Pitti Palace in Florence, Italy. Didn't realize this artist also died relatively young. Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino, now generally known in English as Raphael, was an Italian painter and architect of the High Renaissance. His work is admired for its clarity of form, ease of composition, and visual achievement of the Neoplatonic ideal of human grandeur. Born 1483, Urbino, Italy Died April 6, 1520 (age 37 years), Rome, Italy Periods - Renaissance, Italian Renaissance, High Renaissance Full name - Raffaello Sanzio Parents - Giovanni Santi, Magia di Battista di Nicola Ciarla. (His father a painter and poet; his mother also passed young, in 1491.) Thanks, CBD. Posted by: L - No nic... at September 10, 2026 10:11 AM (NFX2v) 92
Posted by: You could ask Elizabeth at September 10, 2026 10:10 AM
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment. Posted by: Zechariah at September 10, 2026 10:12 AM (Rm1ix) 93
100 comment rule. [CBD]
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:12 AM (ccf/V) 94
This CBD guy is determined to make us rough folk some version of art literate.
Posted by: RI Red at September 10, 2026 10:05 AM (E9nGU) Just call me Sisyphus. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 10:13 AM (k5CNB) 95
None of my kids were chubby babies. But my youngest was rail-thin. I figured she'd be a waif. At 6, she has the strongest natural build of any of the three at that age. Strong limbs, a stout trunk, lots of energy. Unfortunately, zero coordination, like her dad. Just brute force. But still, physically powerful. Her cousin is a healthy kid of the same age, but she just manhandles her when they wrestle.
You can't ever really tell when they're babies, it's always a crap shoot. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:14 AM (BI5O2) 96
However it's worth noting Christianity has produced some of the most beautiful art, music and architecture in the history of the world.
Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 10:07 AM Where is all the epic Mohammedan art? Posted by: I gotta ask at September 10, 2026 10:15 AM (2Ez/1) 97
100 comment rule. [CBD]
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:12 AM (ccf/V) It didn't, really, but I get it.......my bad. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:15 AM (ccf/V) 98
You can't ever really tell when they're babies, it's always a crap shoot.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:14 AM Especially 2 seconds after you take their diaper off... Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 10:15 AM (Rm1ix) 99
At 6, she has the strongest natural build of any of the three at that age. Strong limbs, a stout trunk, lots of energy. Unfortunately, zero coordination, like her dad. Just brute force. But still, physically powerful. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:14 AM (BI5O2)
Is she the one who went nuclear on the stinkbug? Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:16 AM (77rzZ) 100
Especially 2 seconds after you take their diaper off... Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 10:15 AM (Rm1ix) Beware the mustard yellow overrun....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:16 AM (ccf/V) 101
"you can't ever really tell when they're babies" disagree, easy.
"it's always a crap shoot" totally agree, mess. Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 10:17 AM (Bep7s) 102
You've done it again, CBD. My heartstrings hurt.
Posted by: creeper at September 10, 2026 10:17 AM (lWAes) 103
98 You can't ever really tell when they're babies, it's always a crap shoot.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:14 AM Especially 2 seconds after you take their diaper off... Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 10:15 AM (Rm1ix) For boys, never forget to "holster" their "gun". Otherwise you'll get your eye "shot" out. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 10, 2026 10:17 AM (N39Ws) 104
96 mosaic tilework flooded under the damn water.
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 10:17 AM (Bep7s) 105
48 There appears to be a cross on John's left shoulder.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty Hey! Spoiler alert! Posted by: mikeski at September 10, 2026 10:18 AM (VHUov) Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:18 AM (77rzZ) 107
Heh.
James Talarico thought it would be a good idea to have a sit down interview with Fox News. He flailed a bit, lied about his stance on things, blaming basically "woke 1.0 was cray, man" and reversed his ideas on genders, child mutilation and trans in women's sports. He's been getting dragged on X, but Governor Abbott has gone to calling him "Six Gender Jimmy." LOL. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:19 AM (ccf/V) 108
Now that we're past 100, I'd like to share a X post from Margot Cleveland. Goes to xcancel.com. Thought it was really funny.
"The United States has saved Canada untold millions of dollars over the last 30 years in unneeded Stanley Cup parades and they thank us with a trade war." https://tinyurl.com/zbbcf84w Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 10, 2026 10:19 AM (N39Ws) 109
Where is all the epic Mohammedan art?
Posted by: I gotta ask The Mughals in India had some decent paintings. Also, I've always liked Muslim architecture. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:21 AM (77rzZ) 110
Beware the mustard yellow overrun.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer Mustard yellow overrun... child's play. My oldest once had a teal poopsuvius event where it just kept erupting (slow flow not explosive). In the small town dentist's bathroom. With no changing table. Lucky for them I was able to contain it. Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 10, 2026 10:22 AM (j6nUo) 111
Wakes up
Scratches Looks around Dang. The trend continues. Beautiful art. But I'm betting 50 Quatloos tomorrow is Momma Cass. Goes looking for coffee. Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2026 10:23 AM (2WIwB) 112
He's been getting dragged on X, but Governor Abbott has gone to calling him "Six Gender Jimmy."
That's a good one. Now if Abbott would only stand up against Islam. Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2026 10:23 AM (2ocoG) Posted by: Creepy Joe at September 10, 2026 10:24 AM (2Ez/1) 114
"The United States has saved Canada untold millions of dollars over the last 30 years in unneeded Stanley Cup parades and they thank us with a trade war."
https://tinyurl.com/zbbcf84w It was designed to fail so they'd have an excuse to cozy up with China and the EU. The Canadians hired Democrat operatives to "negotiate" with Trump, which is not in any way a good faith thing. Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2026 10:25 AM (2ocoG) 115
Beware the mustard yellow overrun.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer Mustard yellow overrun... child's play. My oldest once had a teal poopsuvius event where it just kept erupting (slow flow not explosive). In the small town dentist's bathroom. With no changing table. Lucky for them I was able to contain it. Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 10, 2026 10:22 AM I remember when Goddaughter The Older's brother got a touch of norovirus at 18 months. He wandered into the room and got the strangest "WTF is going on right now" look on his face, and what followed sounded like a drawn out A-10 gun run. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 10:26 AM (Rm1ix) 116
Mustard yellow overrun... child's play. My oldest once had a teal poopsuvius event where it just kept erupting (slow flow not explosive). In the small town dentist's bathroom. With no changing table. Lucky for them I was able to contain it.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) My brother used to tell a story about how his son had a diarrhea event on the living room carpet. He took the kid into the bathroom and cleaned him up. When he came back into the living room to clean up the diarrhea, it was all gone. And his dog was licking his lips... Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:26 AM (77rzZ) 117
That's a good one. Now if Abbott would only stand up against Islam. Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2026 10:23 AM (2ocoG) He's gone after Epic City and sharia law, but has been coddling Hindus and there are way too many mosques popping up all over...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:26 AM (ccf/V) 118
So, since past 100 (and this is probably of no interest to anyone but me):
If you have Sirius XM, you may know there is - of course - a Beatles channel. One of their regular programs is "My Fab Four," where fans both famous and unknown pick four Beatle songs, introduce them and talk about their love for the band. I sent in four choices a few months ago: "What You're Doing," "You Can't Do That," "Mr Moonlight" and "Here Comes The Sun." I expected nothing, but the other day the program director sent me an e-mail asking if I'd record my selections (using a provided script) and at some point in the next month or so it would be broadcast. So yay me. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 10:27 AM (qRla/) 119
"The United States has saved Canada untold millions of dollars over the last 30 years in unneeded Stanley Cup parades and they thank us with a trade war."
https://tinyurl.com/zbbcf84w Speaking of......RIP Barry Melrose. LEGENDARY Broadcast Mullet. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:27 AM (ccf/V) Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 10:28 AM (qRla/) 121
I sent in four choices a few months ago: "What You're Doing," "You Can't Do That," "Mr Moonlight" and "Here Comes The Sun." I expected nothing, but the other day the program director sent me an e-mail asking if I'd record my selections (using a provided script) and at some point in the next month or so it would be broadcast. So yay me. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 10:27 AM (qRla/) Take your wins when you can get them. Everyone's 15 minutes of fame starts out fleeting....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:28 AM (ccf/V) 122
MP4, you mentioned earlier in the week that you had a column to write. What do write columns about, and where might we go to read your columns?
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:29 AM (77rzZ) 123
Is she the one who went nuclear on the stinkbug?
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:16 AM (77rzZ) Yeah. She's also the most aggressive and risk-friendly of the three, which is a problem. It's a challenge. She wants to be the next Annie Oakley, but we're just not there yet. We need to do some work on her skull before she can really play rough like she wants. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:29 AM (BI5O2) Posted by: nurse ratched at September 10, 2026 10:30 AM (sWSCC) 125
So yay me.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 10:27 AM Cool! Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2026 10:30 AM (Rm1ix) Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2026 10:30 AM (Be6wp) Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 10:30 AM (dpXJq) 128
Baby poop stories:
When the Boy Child was at whatever age one is when one discovers that one's body is a real thing, I was changing him after a semi-solid event. He was on the changing table, laying on his back and I undid his diaper. I had one hand on his chest and one hand reaching for the wipes when he smooshed his hands around in his poop, then patted me gently on the face and hair. There was nothing for it but to finish changing him, set him in his crib, and get in the shower. To this day - he's 11 - I remind him that he'll never Out-Embarrass me. I've had his shit in my hair. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 10:31 AM (PGK1w) Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 10:31 AM (dpXJq) 130
125 So yay me.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 10:27 AM We knew you when. Posted by: The Horde at September 10, 2026 10:31 AM (2Ez/1) 131
To this day - he's 11 - I remind him that he'll never Out-Embarrass me. I've had his shit in my hair. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 10:31 AM (PGK1w) Mom used to say I was an artist. When in the crib and they didn't get to me fast enough, I would draw on the wall with my diaper treasure. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:32 AM (ccf/V) 132
Mom used to say I was an artist. When in the crib and they didn't get to me fast enough, I would draw on the wall with my diaper treasure.
Posted by: Sponge *fistbump* -- Hunter Biden Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:34 AM (77rzZ) 133
Mom used to say I was an artist. When in the crib and they didn't get to me fast enough, I would draw on the wall with my diaper treasure.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:32 AM (ccf/V) Where you - always, literally every time - wrote "FIRST!" Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 10:34 AM (PGK1w) 134
Yeah.
She's also the most aggressive and risk-friendly of the three, which is a problem. It's a challenge. She wants to be the next Annie Oakley, but we're just not there yet. We need to do some work on her skull before she can really play rough like she wants. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:29 AM (BI5O2) Hmm. Did you just get married? Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2026 10:35 AM (g8Ew8) 135
Where you - always, literally every time - wrote "FIRST!" Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 10:34 AM (PGK1w) In my own, special way. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:35 AM (ccf/V) 136
@118
>>So yay me. That's awesome. There's a super young German girl drummer that covers all the Beatles songs on YouTube, she's very good and is able to convey the singular awesomeness of Ringo Starr. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2026 10:35 AM (XV/Pl) 137
Hasn't started walking the message yet.
Posted by: DaveA at September 10, 2026 10:35 AM (FhXTo) 138
MP4, you mentioned earlier in the week that you had a column to write. What do write columns about, and where might we go to read your columns?
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:29 AM (77rzZ) I write for the online magazine Ripperologist, which is about what you'd expect, but also delves into social history of the East End in the 1880s and other aspects of Victorian society. It used to be a monthly, but is now only twice per year. If you go to ripperologist.co.uk, you can download the current issue. My column is called The Last Word. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 10:35 AM (qRla/) 139
So yay me.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 10, 2026 10:27 AM (qRla/) When I was ten I had a letter published in the back of a comic book. My life peaked there. Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 10:37 AM (dpXJq) 140
138 Thanks! I'll check it out!
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:37 AM (77rzZ) 141
When he came back into the living room to clean up the diarrhea, it was all gone. And his dog was licking his lips...
Posted by: Bulg Snort. I remember a time when husband, baby and I went out for an errand and came to find the diaper pail emptied and formerly poop soiled diapers laying all over the hall. Our two mini dachshunds were looking mighty pleased with themselves. Posted by: Tuna at September 10, 2026 10:38 AM (lJ0H4) 142
I would draw on the wall with my diaper treasure.
Posted by: Sponge I knew Hunter had a sock here. Posted by: 88C+u at September 10, 2026 10:38 AM (88C+u) 143
I just wanted to make a comment about Trump's announcement last night of supposed "Trump dividend" payments.
Just reading over what Redstate has published, I cannot believe that he's actually willing to do this. 1) it amounts to a bribe. 2) no indication of where this money is coming from. 3) you want inflation? This is how you get inflation. I'm frankly just flabbergasted about it. I know he's trying to sell people on the Republican brand but we're not the ideology of handouts. If there's some stash of money sitting around - it needs to go towards paying down the debt - not handing out $5k to people who will use it to drive the cost of everything higher. Posted by: Defenestratus at September 10, 2026 10:39 AM (WYStd) 144
He's gone after Epic City and sharia law, but has been coddling Hindus and there are way too many mosques popping up all over......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer --- Epic City is still there. Hindus are way down on the list. Haven't murdered anyone lately. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 10, 2026 10:40 AM (C0oZI) 145
Ellipsis, how is Brit Lass doing?
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:18 AM (77rzZ) Overall better thanks. The tests were "mostly" clear. They want further imaging however so we will see. I can't tell how much of these diagnoses are procedural and how much of them are actually concerning. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 10:40 AM (b+pJs) 146
If there's some stash of money sitting around - it needs to go towards paying down the debt - not handing out $5k to people who will use it to drive the cost of everything higher.
Posted by: Defenestratus at September 10, 2026 10:39 AM It's a write off. Posted by: Kramer at September 10, 2026 10:41 AM (2Ez/1) 147
Hmm. Did you just get married?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2026 10:35 AM ( LOL, no. The youngest has a large hole in the top of her skull. We're getting close to the time when we can decide what type of space-age material to graft into it, but til then... as fragile as an egg. But she doesn't know that. She's just a 6-year old wants to slide down rickety old handrails and shit. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:41 AM (BI5O2) 148
Poop thread!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 10, 2026 10:42 AM (upAXB) 149
I'm frankly just flabbergasted about it. I know he's trying to sell people on the Republican brand but we're not the ideology of handouts.
--------- We are up against people willing to buy voters. Make them come out against it. I don't give a fuck. We are way beyond principles right now. Posted by: ... at September 10, 2026 10:42 AM (b+pJs) 150
Epic City is still there.
Hindus are way down on the list. Haven't murdered anyone lately. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 10, 2026 10:40 AM (C0oZI) Epic City is nothing. They're under litigation for fraud and all sorts of other things. There's no construction. He's catering to the Hindus solely for the H1-B bullshit. It's slightly appalling. But no, the Hindus don't tend to be violent. They just smell funny, mostly. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:42 AM (ccf/V) 151
Iconic.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 10, 2026 10:43 AM (RIvkX) 152
Don't remember ever playing artiste with my shit growing up. Maybe I just don't have a creative mind.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2026 10:43 AM (g8Ew8) 153
Don't remember ever playing artiste with my shit growing up. Maybe I just don't have a creative mind.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2026 10:43 AM I can tell you it doesn't lead to much other than a story on an Art turned poop thread......... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:44 AM (ccf/V) 154
YD a prayer for complete and speedy healing.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 10, 2026 10:44 AM (RIvkX) 155
Prayer up, Ellipsis.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:45 AM (77rzZ) 156
If there's some stash of money sitting around - it needs to go towards paying down the debt - not handing out $5k to people who will use it to drive the cost of everything higher.
Posted by: Defenestratus at September 10, 2026 10:39 AM (WYStd) Economic responsibility? What country do you think this is, buddy? Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2026 10:45 AM (dpXJq) 157
LOL, no. The youngest has a large hole in the top of her skull. We're getting close to the time when we can decide what type of space-age material to graft into it, but til then... as fragile as an egg.
But she doesn't know that. She's just a 6-year old wants to slide down rickety old handrails and shit. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:41 AM (BI5O2) Ah so. She sounds like a keeper then. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2026 10:45 AM (g8Ew8) 158
LOL, no. The youngest has a large hole in the top of her skull. We're getting close to the time when we can decide what type of space-age material to graft into it, but til then... as fragile as an egg. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice's at September 10, 2026 10:41 AM (BI5O2) Taking the phrase "I need that like I need a hole in my head" to a whole new level. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:46 AM (ccf/V) 159
Babies having a tough time around here lately.
Posted by: Case at September 10, 2026 10:46 AM (noln+) 160
8 Is that a hookah?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 10, 2026 09:32 AM (Y/06r) That's no hookah, that's mine wife! Posted by: Joseph at September 10, 2026 10:46 AM (TbWk/) 161
Posted by: Defenestratus at September 10, 2026 10:39 AM (WYStd)
They've said the money will come from tariffs. I think the point is to get people to mentally decouple the IRS from 'places the government gets money,' so that when they start shrinking it, people have started to be conditioned. Good luck, Democrats, campaigning on "Expanding the IRS!" Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 10:48 AM (PGK1w) 162
CBD,
Thanks for the lovely choices for the art thread this we Makes me want to look at some Carl Larrson watercolors of his family scenes. Posted by: JTB at September 10, 2026 10:48 AM (yTvNw) 163
The youngest has a large hole in the top of her skull. We're getting close to the time when we can decide what type of space-age material to graft into it, but til then... as fragile as an egg.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice Yikes. If she were my daughter I'd be worried sick every second of the day that she would do something catastrophic. Prayer up, YD. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:49 AM (77rzZ) 164
Defenetrus,
===== A) economics shows that one off payments generally go for paying off debt or investing, not consumption (see 2008 Bush stimulus payments). Effect on inflation is minimal for one off payments/rebates/etc because consumption doesn't change that much on a one time windfall of a relatively small amount. B) if the payments come from tariff income, then it is actually what economists recommend to set off increased costs to the lower end of the income distribution to the extent that tariffs took away part of that groups spending ability C), there is NO paying down the debt period. That cannot happen until we enact far greater budget cuts as the deficit is about 1.6-1.9 trillion right now and as we have seen, a big part of that is actually a) Medicare whose taxes need to be raised and fraud eliminated, b) Medicaid which is riddled with fraud, and c) Social Security which needs either increased age to retirement, benefit cuts, or some other method. I think Trump is using the Reagan method which according to you would be bribery in reducing tax burdens in order to put more pressure on the GOP Congress to start cutting off funny money to their own welfare clients. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 10:50 AM (E4rtv) 165
Babies are great. They don't judge you harshly like a 12 year old.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 10, 2026 10:50 AM (RIvkX) 166
Taking the phrase "I need that like I need a hole in my head" to a whole new level.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 10, 2026 10:46 AM (ccf/V) Mustafa bin Laden: Dad, I think the SEALs just landed in our yard! Osama bin Laden: I need that like I need a hole in my head. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 10:50 AM (PGK1w) Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 10, 2026 10:51 AM (RIvkX) 168
Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 10:50 AM (E4rtv)
===== catching checks from the government for nothing has now been politically normalized. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 10, 2026 10:52 AM (RIvkX) 169
benefit cuts
====== Rheeeee! Posted by: San Franpsycho Can you imagine the outcry if they tried to cut SS benefits. Holy smokes. Posted by: Tuna at September 10, 2026 10:53 AM (lJ0H4) 170
Any Texans around?
I need a recipe for a brisket point! I'm cooking brisket for Rosh Hashanah, and I bought a monster, so I am going to split it and just cook the flat. That leaves me with a big fat Wagyu point! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 10:54 AM (k5CNB) 171
118 four consecutive beatles songs? i lived through it once. gun and one bullet.
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 10:55 AM (Bep7s) 172
Babies are great. They don't judge you harshly like a 12 year old.
Posted by: San Franpsycho That's about when the gene that controls the ability to roll one's eyes kicks in. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:57 AM (77rzZ) 173
Can you imagine the outcry if they tried to cut SS benefits. Holy smokes.
Posted by: Tuna Wait 'til they come for the 401Ks. Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:58 AM (77rzZ) 174
Motherhood!
Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 10:58 AM (odBC9) 175
The real facts are the US economy is about 32 Trillion or so in size. The current debt is about 40 trillion (and you need to discount the idiotic notion of counting supposed future obligations out of that because they are not in fact legal obligations per Scotus decision way back). That puts us roughly at 125% debt to gdp.
So to pay it off in a reasonable time period, you either need cuts so extensive that no government can support them over that time to carry them out--as in raising taxes to somewhere around 50 percent of your income for decades plus massive spending cuts as in no social security, no medicare, no medicaid, no welfare for decades or b) you inflate the debt away--currently the US debt due to Covid is about one quarter devalued from inflation from 2020-2025 and that is a tax by other means, or c) we repudiate it--that means that instantly our imports are cut off unless you can scrape up hard assets like gold, oil, etc. to pay for them, you will have bans on taking currency abroad, and you will have to run at least no deficit in trade accounts with other nations for years. US being a reserve currency, it would probably throw the world into a depression anyway. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 10:58 AM (E4rtv) 176
Madonna and Child with St. John (known as Madonna of the Chair)
Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino Stunningly lovely and wonderful. Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 10:59 AM (odBC9) 177
139 i had my bike photo and letter on the back cover of smog, the spanish motobikey owners group. muy importante screams her little diode trio heart!
Posted by: cmeat at September 10, 2026 10:59 AM (Bep7s) 178
Wait 'til they come for the 401Ks.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:58 AM (77rzZ) They have been. Publicly. Since November 4, 2008. "Democrats in the U.S. House have been conducting hearings on proposals to confiscate workers’ personal retirement accounts — including 401(k)s and IRAs — and convert them to accounts managed by the Social Security Administration." Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:00 AM (PGK1w) 179
Nood Rant.
Posted by: Nazdar at September 10, 2026 11:00 AM (NcvvS) 180
So there's this lady who is a professor at Seminary in Detroit. I forget her name. She had a book/thesis that before the anti christ there will be an anti mary.
Just as Mary preceded Christ one of the signs of the antichrist will be an anti Mary. Anti by the way is really "ANTE" meaning before. Its one of those modern poor translation things that has caught on in popular mindset. So anyway, this lady professor's main thesis is that Feminism is the ante/"anti" Mary. A kind of precursor to the antichrist. Considering a number of things that have occurred since Gloria Steinham got her way up to the recent progressive explosion of toxic Karen homicidal glee culminating public demonstrations of empathy for a toddler strangler. I do see the Professors point. Archetypes seem to figure in the grand scheme and mark waypoints. It seems that the rough beast slouched its way past another milestone on it way to ... Posted by: Pensive at September 10, 2026 11:00 AM (anL5R) 181
Prayer up, YD.
Posted by: Bulg at September 10, 2026 10:49 AM (77rzZ) Yeah most babies are born with a hole in their skulls where the bone hasn't closed all the way yet but it usually closes up fairly quickly in their first year...first time I heard of one that didn't - sounds resolvable but kind of dangerous though... Posted by: Boswell at September 10, 2026 11:00 AM (NTVPI) 182
whig,
The article I read didn't indicate where the funding would come from. Be it tariffs of continuously-challenged legality or something else entirely. As for using that money to pay down debt - that may be the case, but its undeniable that the "free money" that was handed out during covid was the primary economic factor behind the inflation we experienced. As far as not using that revenue to pay off the debt... I'm of the opinion that the best way to eat an elephant one small bite at a time. Posted by: Defenestratus at September 10, 2026 11:01 AM (WYStd) 183
Next week: Medea!
Posted by: m at September 10, 2026 11:01 AM (odBC9) 184
c) we repudiate it--that means that instantly our imports are cut off unless you can scrape up hard assets like gold, oil, etc. to pay for them, you will have bans on taking currency abroad, and you will have to run at least no deficit in trade accounts with other nations for years.
US being a reserve currency, it would probably throw the world into a depression anyway. == This is most likely how the beginning of the end kicks off. Posted by: Pensive at September 10, 2026 11:04 AM (anL5R) 185
catching checks from the government for nothing has now been politically normalized.
Posted by: San Franpsycho Eh, that can be said for government employees as well. Why do all local governments run on salary increases for public workers--it is because they vote as their paycheck depends on it. Plus we schedule the local elections at such a time as to depress the electorate so that taxpayers often don't vote but government workers do. I can go on to government contractors, those wanting tax cuts, etc. We could make defense a lot cheaper is a) we cut out foreign actions, and b) we go to universal conscription which eliminates the biggest bill in defense spending--payroll. Everyone is getting some and the mythical virtuous American citizen that is not getting something is similar to Gorillas in the Mist. Frankly, I get bemused of people posing as fiscal conservatives yet not wanting their piece of the pie cut. To update Senator Russell Long's saying, " Don't cut you, Don't cut me, cut that feller's funds behind the tree." He used it for taxes but government spending at all levels is a similar argument. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (E4rtv) 186
I need a recipe for a brisket point!
I'm cooking brisket for Rosh Hashanah, and I bought a monster, so I am going to split it and just cook the flat. That leaves me with a big fat Wagyu point! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2026 10:54 AM (k5CNB) Either of these channels should get you going in the right direction - Chud's BBQ - https://www.youtube.com/@ChudsBbq Mad Scientist BBQ - https://www.youtube.com/@MadScientistBBQ Good Luck and Good Eating! Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (wVcYX) 187
The article I read didn't indicate where the funding would come from. Be it tariffs of continuously-challenged legality or something else entirely.
As for using that money to pay down debt - that may be the case, but its undeniable that the "free money" that was handed out during covid was the primary economic factor behind the inflation we experienced. As far as not using that revenue to pay off the debt... I'm of the opinion that the best way to eat an elephant one small bite at a time. Posted by: Defenestratus a Tariffs currently are not illegal because Scotus in making his emergency tariffs legal, made his use of retaliatory and predatory tariffs legal. That argument won't hunt. And no, you would have to cut 1.6 trillion out of a 7 trillion or so budget and NOT touch the trillion spent on interest. That means to even stay status quo, you will have to cut 1/3 of the federal budget and that is going to have to come from the holy triad, social security, medicare, and medicaid. Or you raise taxes (which gets tricky) because the marginal revenue decreases as the tax rate increases and you take a hit on economic growth at investors put money either abroad or in tax shelters. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (E4rtv) 188
We could make defense a lot cheaper is ... we go to universal conscription which eliminates the biggest bill in defense spending--payroll.
Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:07 AM (E4rtv) Absolutely not. Never. I don't care what your personal reason is for being next to me in the fight, but you need to HAVE a personal reason for being next to me in the fight. If I'm going to trust you with my life, I need you to have chosen to be there. The idea that you can just scoop people up and force them into uniform has far worse repurcussions than the idea that men and women are interchangable and can therefore all be sent to the pointy end. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:11 AM (PGK1w) 189
See!? I TOLD you Mom always liked me best … !
Posted by: Dr_No at September 10, 2026 11:13 AM (ayRl+) 190
This is most likely how the beginning of the end kicks off.
Posted by: Pensive Mebbe, I have been watching Japan with fascination for decades now. Its debt to GDP level is about 300-350 percent of GDP. China is not far behind. Yet we haven't seen Japan nor China collapse suddenly. I think the marginal increase in federal debt and spurring economic growth is what is important rather than the particular size of the national debt. Andy Jackson paid off the federal debt in 1836 and the US promptly went into a deep depression that lasted until Van Buren got kicked out of office. Simply put, a lot of things my economics teachers taught me are apparently not true, some are partially true, and some remain to be debated. Government debt to gdp is one of those. For anyone, I recommend Carmen and Rogoff who are economic historians and their book, This Time It's Different--they study government economic collapses during the past 1000 years or so. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:15 AM (E4rtv) 191
Absolutely not. Never.
I don't care what your personal reason is for being next to me in the fight, but you need to HAVE a personal reason for being next to me in the fight. If I'm going to trust you with my life, I need you to have chosen to be there. The idea that you can just scoop people up and force them into uniform has far worse repurcussions than the idea that men and women are interchangable and can therefore all be sent to the pointy end. Posted by: Washington Nearsider Calm down. I don't personally recommend it due to poor performance of conscripts historically but needless to say, that helped keep US debt to gdp down post WWII. Personnel costs for defense are about 40-50 percent of the defense budget roughly 400-500 billion per year. So, you face a hobbesian choice. And defense is no. 4 spending category after SS, Medicare, Medicaid, excluding interest on the debt which cannot be cut absent repudiation of the federal debt. And as I point out, there are no painless choices here and ironically growing the economy faster than the rise in debt ratio is probably the best option right now and the most politically salable. Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:20 AM (E4rtv) 192
And as I point out, there are no painless choices here and ironically growing the economy faster than the rise in debt ratio is probably the best option right now and the most politically salable.
Posted by: whig at September 10, 2026 11:20 AM (E4rtv) This is absolutely correct. Which is why I'm on Team Trump/Bessent. Grow the economy to stave off/delay what appears to be inevitable. Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at September 10, 2026 11:22 AM (PGK1w) 193
Can you imagine the outcry if they tried to cut SS benefits. Holy smokes.
Posted by: Tuna -------- Wait 'til they come for the 401Ks. Posted by: Bulg ----- "If they find away to tax capital, we're done for" -- Soames Forsyte, in 'The Forsyte Saga' I think of that every time I receive my property tax bill. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2026 11:22 AM (XeU6L) 194
I don't care what your personal reason is for being next to me in the fight, but you need to HAVE a personal reason for being next to me in the fight. If I'm going to trust you with my life, I need you to have chosen to be there.
-------- This. I served with LOTS of conscripts. Now, during VN thousands of those guys made the ultimate sacrifice, and proved to be fine troops, BUT, as a more general rule, conscripts are unhappy to be where they are, doing whatever they are doing, but, reluctantly. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2026 11:50 AM (XeU6L) The Morning Report — 9/ 10 /26
One person incorrectly insisted the attacks occurred on September 10. Others spouted conspiracy theories, including one person who claimed George W. Bush was “heavily implicated” in orchestrating 9/11. Another said the way the World Trade Center towers collapsed was “too weird” to have been caused by planes. “I think Israel, America behind it all,” another person said, adding an apparent reference to hundreds of years of alleged atrocities. But the interviews went far beyond conspiracy theories.As you clean up the vomitus from your lap and easy chair... meh, this is akin to descending to the depths of the Marianas Trench and Diver Dan telling you to your face "water is wet," wouldn't you say?! It's not drugs per se, but it is the most poisonous of narcotics, anti-American leftist indoctrination pumped into their brains from parents and schools that have been poisoning our youth for decades and continue to do so, especially in higher ed. On that note, I submit for your consideration, on this fine morning, we have this glittering cancerous fistula as but one example: Melina Abdullah, a professor of pan-African studies at California State University, Los Angeles, is under fire for comments she made at an event where she doxed an ICE agent and then urged students in the audience to ‘f**k him up.’Ah yes, their universal desire for peace love and understanding means that millions of us will have to be liquidated in order to bring that about. As we discussed on the latest episode of the podcast, linked here and in the sidebar as well as the popular outlets listed at the bottom of this post, they are the party of death. Ah yes, how they abhor violence, except when taking out "nazis" like Charlie Kirk! Everything about the assassination was astonishing: The unconscionable security failure from the campus police and Charlie’s detail, the fact he was killed while modeling robust and respectful debate, the utterly depraved nature of the act and the apparent transgender-related motive of the accused killer. He was a thought leader, an institution builder and a grassroots-mobilization visionary. The cranks and kooks overrunning the online right today are a sad testament to the void he left behind: Charlie, the guardian of the floodgates, was the conservative coalition’s indispensable man.Of course "free speech" is a tool of heteronormative, white supremacy and toxic masculinity. And there's no greater example of that than of a woman who butchers her three children and is hailed as a heroine while the one voice of sanity who prevented her from walking free, at least for now, is demonized as evil incarnate for not being compassionate and understanding her position! ‘He couldn’t get over the fact that Clancy viciously killed her children.” Those are the words of one of the insufferably condescending female jurors from the Lindsay Clancy mistrial who have gone public with their disdain for the lone male juror who refused to go along with their not guilty verdict.When they're done slaughtering their and OUR children they'll turn on us. Because freedom and democracy (vonit) demand it! Brittany Dawn Jeffrey of the Hallie Shoffner-backed Little Rock Freedom Fund hosted a group of rioters at her residence to make Molotov cocktails... Little Rock Freedom Fund founder Brittany Dawn Jeffrey was one of four individuals charged for the attacks in December 2020 and later admitted in a guilty plea that the rioters made the Molotov cocktails at her residence with bottles of liquor, bedsheets, and gasoline. She was sentenced to time served in December 2022 after spending 17 months in pretrial detention. During that time, the Little Rock Freedom Fund sold T-shirts with her photo alongside a quote from convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur, the left-wing Arkansas Worker reported at the time.And speaking of Democrat candidates . . . El-Sayed Demanded Mass Release of Prisoners, ‘De-Jailing,’ and Scrapping Cash Bail Because of ‘Racism’: Democrat Claims US Is ‘a Carceral State’And then again there's Fetterman. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he may be a Democrat but still!! In a stunning turn of events, Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman made a high-profile cameo at the Republican midterm convention in Dallas.Aside from President Trump himself, there isn't any politician allegedly on our side that is speaking as loudly and as forcefully against the Left as John Fetterman. Whatever his motivations and political calculus, thank goodness he's doing it. Then again, Fetterman aside maybe there is something under the surface that is bubbling up little by little that could be at long last the sea change we have so desperately prayed for and need for our future survival as a nation and society... A Michigan Democrat state lawmaker is warning voters not to support U.S. candidate Abdulrahman Mohamed El-Sayed and said socialist politicians take black voters for granted. “It doesn’t change, it’s just different slave owners,” Democratic Michigan state Rep. Karen Whitsett told Fox News Digital, referring to Democrat Party leaders who treat black voters as a monolith who should only support left-wing candidates. She also accused El-Sayed of not supporting the best interests of black people in Michigan and said the far-left rising socialist wing of the Democrat Party is “more racist than the KKK.”It's one thing for Fetterman and even others to go after the DSA crazies but rhetoric like this also exposes or has the potential to expose who and what the Democrats themselves are and have been. In any case as all of the previous examples and many many more that we have witnessed and lived through these last few years and even longer, they will not rest until we're either conquered or dead and they've gained absolute permanent power. Have a good day.
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